Giuliana Sgrena's Blood Libel Against the US

Giuliana Sgrena is a propagandist for the Communist daily rag Il Manifesto. Her writings do not reveal a bias, they reveal that Sgrena is an enemy of the United States of America and responsible for supporting terrorists and the murder of American soldiers and civilians.

She accuses the US of complicity in mass murder, the use of napalm on civilians, the targetting of journalists, and the torture of children.

Since the MSM has now reduced itself to reporting Sgrena's contradictory stories as fact, shouldn't we be examaning he track record?

One of Giuliana's friends dropped us a line and assured us that Sgrena is above reproach.

The following is evidence that Sgrena is a lying propagandist who issued blood lible reports. Her reports are so disgusting that a reader of them, if they were to be believed, would be morally bound to fight the US.

From a German article in Die Zeit we learn that this is not the first time Sgrena has accused the US of targetting reporters (more on Die Ziet's bias here and here):

What we believed was impossible has happened. The Americans have not spared even the mythic Hotel Al-Rashid [where reporters were staying]. It was only scratched. Was that a mistake? Or was it supposed to be a message?
It only gets worse from there.

Sgrena was documenting 'US war-crimes' against residents of Fallujah when she was 'abducted' by terrorists. Here is what Sgrena was writing about shortly before she was captured:

The massacre in Falluja continues .
By massacre, Sgrena means the US invasion of the city, not the massacre of innocent civilians by terrorists. Here is evidence of what Sgrena calls 'the resistance' was up to in Fallujah. Check out the entire slide-show.

Remember, al Jazeera admits that Sgrena had "very good contacts in Baghdad, including with the ulamas [Muslim clergy]" and was interviewing refugees at a mosque said to be the center of insurgent activities in Baghdad when she was 'abducted'.

In this story, Sgrena admits that no facts exist to bolster the outrageous claims, yet she reports that American troops were using Napalm and even nuclear weapons!!!

«We buried them, but we could not identify them because they were charred from the napalm bombs used by the Americans». People from Saqlawiya village, near Falluja, told al Jazeera television, based in Qatar, that they helped bury 73 bodies of women and children completely charred, all in the same grave. The sad story of common graves, which started at Saddam’s times, is not yet finished. Nobody could confirm if napalm bombs have been used in Falluja, but other bodies found last year after the fierce battle at Baghdad airport were also completely charred and some thought of nuclear bombs.
She repeats the allegation here along with alleging a civilian massacre in Fallujah by US forces:
2,085 killed in the attack according to the information given out by Iraqi Security Minister Quassim Daud, without specifying the number of civilians. The problem, says the Minister, is that of identification, as many of the victims were not carrying documents. But many observers say that the problem is that many of the bodies were unrecognisable because they were so carbonised that the use of napalm was suspected.
Here is another blood libel statement from Sgrena:
Fallujah is dying under the criminally indifferent gaze not only of the United States, but also of the Iraqi government, or at least the interim Prime Minister Allawi
Here is Sgrena's pro-terrorist rallying piece for the 'resistance' in Fallujah:
A fire rain crashed over Falluja as soon as the curfew entered into force, at 6 p.m., sunset, after the Iftar breaks the Ramadan fast. At the same time, from the minaret of the mosque, the voice of the Imam tried to rise over the noise of the bombs to incite the mujahidin to the battle, which for Falluja will surely be the hardest since the beginning of the invasion....

The excuse of terrorists is the pretext to destroy the symbol of resistance.

Here is another image from Sgrena's 'resistance' in Fallujah

Notice the flag? Below are images of beheading murder victims Jack Hensley and Ken Bigley.

More of Sgrena's blood libels agains the US. In this account she interviews a woman who claims US forces tortured her and her son:

dragged me down five flights of stairs, still in my nightdress. I only just managed to grab hold of my baya on my way out the door,' Mithal related. 'They took me to Sujud Palace, which had been named after Saddam's wife, Sajida. On the way there they pointed out to me a man in a jellaba with a bag over his head, tied to a tree. It was my son. I recognised him by his trousers. They dragged him over to where I was and took the bag off his head. He had been horribly tortured, with deep cuts to his head. Then they said to him, 'Say goodbye to your mother.' After that, they put the bag back on his head and tied to him to a post again. Then a soldier dragged me off again....

[Sgrena asks] Did you know of cases of rape?

[Answer] 'Yes, but I'm not going to go into that. In our society, it's something you don't talk about.'

[Sgrena asks] And what about children, how were they treated?

[Answer] 'We heard them screaming. [The chiltren] were tortured too. Mostly dogs were set on them.'

Where else do we find Sgrena's work? Howard Zinn's notoriously anti-American Z-Mag:
The sand of the desert has swallowed the victims of the various waves of repression, endured by the tormented country and perpetrated, first by the Soviet

invaders, then by the Taleban who have buried about 3000 Afghans of the Hazara ethnic group here, and finally by the militia of Rashid Dostum assisted by US and British agents. This last tragedy took place after the battle of Kunduz (beginning of December 2001), the last sack of Taleban resistence to the American bombardment. After bloody clashes, 5000 combatants - Talebans, Pakistanis, Chechens and "Arabs" - by then reduced to hunger, had surrundered to the Alliance of the North and had been handed over to the Uzbek General Rashid Dostum. 800 were taken to Qala-i-Janghi, about twenty kilometres from Mazar-i-Sharif, in the fortress of Dostum, one of the most bloodthirsty warlords. The prisoners were locked in the storehouse and massacred.

Of the roughly 5000 who left Kunduz for Shebarghan, little over 3000 would arrive; the others - died of suffocation or for wounds procured when some agents had fired on the containers "in order to let them breathe", others still ended with a blow on the back of the neck - were buried in the mass graves dug in the desert of Dasht-i-Layli, of which we found evident traces and testimonies during our visit to Shebarghan in June 2002 ...

Other testimonies of mass graves and of torture have been collected in a report by John Hefferman of the American organization Physicians for Human Rights (il Manifesto, May 29, 2002), [but] ignored by the American administration. Disappearances and torture, what the international legislation defines as "crimes of war", still unpunished, were also documented well by Jamie Doran in his "Massacre in Mazar", presented to the European and Italian parliaments and transmitted also by RAI 3 in the programme "C'era una volta", and described in an article in Le Monde Diplomatique/il Manifesto (September 2002). The tortures carried out in the prison of Shebarghan by CIA agents who were to select elements suspected of having ties with the organization of Osama bin Laden, al Qaida, to be sent to the US military base of Guantanamo in Cuba - blows on the neck bone and irreversible nerve injuries caused by leaving hands tied behind the back for too long - may now gain visibility again in the light of what is emerging in Iraq.

Giuliana Sgrena is a liar and a propagandist. The reason the terrorist fight our rebuilding efforts in Iraq is because they actually believe this type of propaganda.

Sgrena is a modern Goebbels, a soldier of the enemy engaged in spreading false and malicious rumors about America. Simply because you are a journalist does not mean you are not the enemy.

Ms. Sgrena, you are the enemy.

Posted by: Rusty at 05:14 PM

Comments

1 The US has used napalm in Iraq. It's one of a few countries that still do.

Posted by: Frank at March 07, 2005 05:50 PM

2 I have heard that $10 million US was paid for the ransom of Stockholm Sgrena. This is quite the tidy sum. I wonder if it wasn't some sort of ploy to help fund the terrorists in the guise of a rescue- which certainly wouldn't come under as much global scrutiny as a charitable donation would.

Posted by: Vonski at March 07, 2005 05:55 PM

3 The liberal left TV News media in the Europe along with CNN have suspended all their critical faculties and only FOX News is putting an alternative view.

Sgrena is being lionised as a new Joan of Arc in Europe and no one is reporting the many lies that she told about Falluja and US forces.

The dignity and reputation of the US and her forces have been tarnished by this womans serious allegations. Therefore, it is in the hand of all patriotic US investigative journalists and webloggers to scrutinise the case with care.

Someone should actually visit Falluja and test whether a nuclear weapon was dropped where she says it was, if twenty doctors were executed by US troops at a hospital there and to try to find the sources and truth behind her stories.

The whole thing is worthy of a film-documentary investigation.

Posted by: USlover at March 07, 2005 06:14 PM

4 Every time I think of this poor excuse for either a journalist or a human I imagine her peeking through the blinds of some terrorist safe house in Iraq, a drink in her hand, hoping to beat the odds of someone discovering that her staged kidnapping was just that, waiting for the payoff from Italy so she can buy some weapons for the "insurgents" and get back to cranking out her propaganda. Every time I hear some lefty ranting about how terrible we are and using her case as an example of proof I see him or her as a far more dangerous enemy than the terrorists themselves, deadlier in the long run without ever having the guts to fire a single shot, driving the gullible to join the terrorists at the expense of lives lost for both sides while risking nothing themselves.

Posted by: bullwinkle at March 07, 2005 07:30 PM

5 She has written approvingly of terrorist forces that do deliberately target civilians. And so she repeats baseless stories.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 07, 2005 08:02 PM

6 I think it's only fair that U.S. citizens recoup the ten million dollars that will be used against our forces....by taking it out of what we would have spent on italian wine, for instance, and to send the cash to "adopt a sniper" instead. I was going to Italy for my fiftieth birthday but I think I will go elsewhere.

Posted by: AvenueBalum at March 07, 2005 08:17 PM

7 This is quite the tidy sum. I wonder if it wasn't some sort of ploy to help fund the terrorists in the guise of a rescue- which certainly wouldn't come under as much global scrutiny as a charitable donation would.

Right, the Italian government wanted to fund the terrorists they are fighting against in Iraq, so they sent a journalist from a communist paper that opposes them to Iraq to fake her own kidnapping in order to do it? And you people complain about moonbats?

Posted by: mantis at March 07, 2005 08:28 PM

8 Frank, see you believe the BS Sgrena writes. If you read reports of napalm in Iraq carefully you learn that no official source can confrim this. The burned bodies of fighters are ASSUMED to have come from napalm. Dumb.

Mantis. No one accused the Italian government of being complicent in Sgrena's kidnapping. We are, however, accusing Sgrena of being complicit in her own kidnapping. For instance, the day he video taped plea for Italy to remove its troops from Iraq came the day before a vote in the Italian parliament on that same issue.

But Sgrena's crimes are worse then petty larsony of the type committed by Benjamanin Vanderford (the San Francisco political-wanna-be who staged an execution video). The types of crimes Sgrena alleges against the US are blood libels. IF what she is saying is true, THEN Arabs are required (from a moral standpoint) to fight 'Zionist-Christian Crusador forces'. She is the enemy.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 07, 2005 09:11 PM

9 The Italian Government didnt SEND her she went of her own free will, as she has said. I would also like to point out that the italian
government had warned jounalists etc. to stay away and imo this shooting everyone is getting into a tizzy about was just as it looks, an accident!

Posted by: sparky at March 07, 2005 09:15 PM

10 No one accused the Italian government of being complicent in Sgrena's kidnapping.

I know you're not arguing that Rusty, but I was responding to Vonski, who apparently thinks this might have been an attempt to get money to terrorists instead of outright donating money to them. Since it is assumed that the Italian government paid that ransom, this theory implies that the Italian government would have been complicit in this conspiracy. In any case I am not arguing that it's not possible Sgrena was involved in her own kidnapping, I think that is a possibility and her abduction is pretty weird compared to others.

Posted by: mantis at March 07, 2005 09:29 PM

11 Pretty Weird? It was completly ridicoulous. When compared to other kidnappings this one is a joke, these were obviously amatuers making their first kidnap. But then again, they weren't really kidnapping her, they were just putting on a show. The U.S. Soldier who was supposedly good enough to shoot the Italian agent in the temple from 50 yards away in a moving vehicle should have shot her instead. Speaking of that, how does one get shot in the temple while lying down trying to protect somebody? His face was either buried in her crotch or he was back first facing up. You can't do that quickly from a sitting position, I don't care how flexible you are.

Posted by: Cain at March 07, 2005 10:25 PM

12 Mantis - I am aware that Italy has troops in Iraq. In no way did I think my comment would imply that the Italian government was involved in a plot. Rather, I think they were unwittingly duped into the action. What I said was truncated as I didn't think I needed to spend a paragraph justifying every sentence I wrote. That's what I use my own blog for, not someone else's comments area.

Posted by: Vonski at March 07, 2005 10:50 PM

13 I didn't think I needed to spend a paragraph justifying every sentence I wrote. That's what I use my own blog for, not someone else's comments area.

Ok, but you didn't use your blog for that, so your comment here is all I had to go on. If I misunderstood what you meant then please disregard my comment.

Posted by: mantis at March 07, 2005 11:10 PM

14 This is unbelievable. What makes me really sick is the way no one is talking about it, except on the Internet. Yet another motivation for me not to get a TV.

Sgrena's sympathizing with cold-blooded killers is dangerous. Thanks for getting the truth out.

Posted by: Labosseuse at March 08, 2005 12:27 AM

15 That's why they shot her. She knows what happened in Fallujah.

Posted by: mrgrimm at March 08, 2005 12:55 AM

16 Did you read the bullshit she wrote for today's Z-net? This is the truth, according to that Islamofascist bitch:
One, in particular, who showed signs of attention at every whim of mine, was incredibly dashing. In order to understand what really was going on I asked him in a provoking manner if he was happy because I was leaving or because I staying. I was both surprised and happy when he said, "I only know that you will go away, but I don't know when". Confirming the fact that something new was happening, at a certain point in time both of them entered the room as if to comfort me and to joke. "Congratulations", they said, "you are leaving for Rome". For Rome, they said exactly that.
I experienced a strange sensation. Because that word immediately evoked liberation but also projected an emptiness within me.

She's not only evil, she's certifiably nuts. Stockholm Sgrena indeed.

Posted by: Beth at March 08, 2005 01:07 AM

17 Frank comment
"The US has used napalm in Iraq. It's one of a few countries that still do."

What a moonbat, as a retired USAF flight line maintainer on fighter bombers I can assure you that the USAF and Naval air has nor used napalm in a generation. In fact all the leftover Napalm canisters that were serviceable have over the years been converted to travel pods. Travel pods allow fighter crews to transport their luggage when going on a deployment. Napalm was am area denial weapon that is not very accurate in delivery when it was used. Today we use bombs like the GBU-12, which is a laser guided 500-pound weapon. In an urban environment with friendly troops in close contact you want to hose the bad guys down with the most accurate munitions out there. Plus it cuts down on collateral damage.

Posted by: wildbill at March 08, 2005 03:38 AM

18 Dear Jawa Report,

There is more to the story than you and I will ever know. I'm very happy she is alive and recovering from such a series of traumatic incidents. When she begins to file her reports of what happened in Fallujah, we will be truly amazed.

Posted by: Collin Baber at March 08, 2005 05:32 AM

19 Collin, The only thing that will be truly amazing about Sgrena's report on Fallujah will be watching moon bats gorge on the cow-pie she baked up for them.

Posted by: Cindy at March 08, 2005 07:37 AM

20 Yes Colin we will certainly be amazed at the level of BULLSHIT she can concoct. A propoganda expert. She has been at this so long...... I can only hope that someone, or some organization can disprove enough of her incredible claims that she is discredited. Of course the people who already believe her crap will never hear of her discrediting and will continue to fight the infidels.... the dammage is already done. Sgrenas crimes are war crimes. She should be tried and convicted of war crimes when this is all over. Sgrena is responsible for so many deaths now.... When this is all said and done you will see Colin that you are wrong. and you are right.... there is MUCH more to the story, it is just not what you or the left wing will want to hear and as usual you will turn a blind eye to it and make it a conspiracy of Americans

Posted by: Chris at March 08, 2005 07:42 AM

21 Take a look at Collin's site and it appears he is pretty good at compiling the bullshit as well. I particularly like the story of rounding up citizens, including a six-month old baby, telling them to go to a local mosque then after they arrive, American troops appear fire at them from on top of the mosque. Wow, where do they come up with this? Fortunately, the six-month old lived.

Posted by: js at March 08, 2005 07:52 AM

22 Ha Ha thats absurd, the U.S. Military does not round up Iraqi's and shoot at them from atop mosques. And I assure you if they did, that little kid wouldn't be alive.

The same goes for this innocent truth seeking Italin Communist, if we wanted her dead Mr. Grimm, we would have done more that just "shot" her, we would have made that car look like microwaved swiss cheese. But just in case you don't know what a microwave is, its a 20/21st century oven that heats things up fast.

Posted by: Cain at March 08, 2005 11:17 AM

23 This was a botched assassination of a journalist.

The CIA/Mossad have a track record of silencing us, regardless of origins. Make trouble for the regime, and you are dead. Commie, conservative, independent: tell the truth and die. The truth has no boundries. Regardless of political stripe, our job is to get it out.

Pearl, Webb, Thompson, and others. All killed for reporting the truth. All different except for their dedication to the truth as journalists.

This failed murder will have ramifications that the regimes in power drastically underestimated.

They cannot kill us all. This is fact. This spells their ultimate demise. We will continue to report, regardless of the consequences.

Robert S. Finnegan
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
seanews1@yahoo.com

Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 08, 2005 12:46 PM

24 ok, so, if everyone pretty much agrees that she is so much an enemy, and communist, and modern Goebbels, then, I gather, it means that we admit and approve that she was shot by the U.S. troops deliberately, because that's what she deserves. Right? then why don't we admit it directly: yes, we shot the bitch on intention, too bad we did not kill her; and that's what every journalist critical to the U.S. troops should be prepared for.

Posted by: bat at March 08, 2005 01:07 PM

25 Are you right wingers really that far gone? It doesn't matter what your opinion of this reporter is... the fact is that an Italian agent was killed by our troops. This agent was our ally, and you are refusing to aknowledge this. The vehicle had already passed through the checkpoints when the US troops opened fire. Why are you ignoring the fact that NOBODY gets through these heavily armed checkpoints and to the airport without clearence. They were cleared and it was known that this vehicle was coming through. The US military knew who they were targeting.. Accept the truth... your right wing leaders that you praise and blindly follow are lying to you. They don't want you to know the truth of what is really happening in Iraq. In order to prevent you from finding the truth, they are targeting the people who can bring it to you... The Journalists. You should be angry that your small cabal of right wing warmongers along with the media are openly lying to you. You should also be mad at the fact that they think you are dumb enough to swallow their lies and come back for more. The majority of Americans are smart and Patriotic, they can think for themselves and reach out beyond the propaganda of Fox,CNN,NBC and the other corperate owned news outlets. They will discover the truth while the brainwashed few stay glued to the Fox propaganda channel. Our forefathers warned us about the dangers of this and how fragile our democracy is. We the people are losing our Rights and the rule of law here in America. Our democracy is being dismantled as we claim to be exporting it elsewhere. Only the incredibly gullable or ignorant would believe that this incident was an accident. Do yourself a service, watch the news on a variety of channels. Observe the same talking points over and over without any objectivity and think of who this truly serves. Then go to the internet and look for opposing viewpoints from other news sources throughout the world. You will see how one sided and deliberatly misleading our "News" is. Then perhaps you can see why we have lost our moral standing in this world. You will also find that other countries are banding together to form a greater power to stand up against the new US foreign policy of disaster. This Resident of the white house is soiling our name and reputaion in the world community. If you don't believe that, do a little research, it won't be hard to find.

Posted by: Common Sense at March 08, 2005 01:25 PM

26 This is ABSURD! You guys are forgetting that the United States has the most profesional, not to mention the most accurate, soldiers in the world. Our souldiers would never willingly shoot a civilian car unless they feared for their lives! And in the end if we did want that witch dead, we would have blown that car to smitherins!

Robert S. Finnegan
How can you consider yourselves a respectable journalist if you start making implications and bold statements without the facts, your gonna feel shit sorry for yourself when the truth comes out.

Posted by: Cain at March 08, 2005 01:26 PM

27 Wow. The word must have come down from high spook offices that all hired internet disinformationalists should work double-time on spinning this particular story.

Posted by: SuchFormidableMobilization at March 08, 2005 01:30 PM

28 I am not "spinning" the story, I am going off the referance of a dear friend of mine, a soldier who was injured in Iraq. An ITALIAN soldier injured in Iraq. He seen with his own eyes whats going on over there. The Italians and the Americans work closley with each over, they are good freinds and many US and Italian soldiers share a bond that only soldiers in the line of fire can share. If there word can't be trusted, whose can?

Posted by: Cain at March 08, 2005 01:35 PM

29 JAWA is watching through excriment stained spectacles...

Since ALL OF THIS IS A LOAD OF CRAP AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT, we all have to live our lives.

So, keep on livin' in a way that you will be able to live with your actions on your death bed.

Posted by: Douglas Rhiner at March 08, 2005 01:38 PM

30 Amazing how some people are willing to rationalize cold blooded murder. You all are pathetic excuses for human beings.

Posted by: Redfoot at March 08, 2005 01:58 PM

31 This site is a joke, right? I've been reading comments here the past few days and have decided you people can't be serious! It's like a parody of ignorance and hatred.
One person spells "spincter" as spinkter. The next person spells "Iraq" as "Irak". People call Sgrena a grasy pasta slurper. You're doing this to make people see how ignorant and stupid some Americans are, right? God, TELL me you aren't really this dumb! It's the ugly American!!!!

Posted by: ellen at March 08, 2005 02:22 PM

32 All your writting is crap you belong to the presstitution of the USA and the netire world will not accept your bullshit
you must be paid by the bushrael to tell all this crap any way at least your tried but I believe the other side of the story not yours
I read french italian and arabic so what you talking about doesn't come a million miles from truth you are so far away from the facts

Posted by: You can never burry the truth at March 08, 2005 03:34 PM

33 The Americans are using something like napalm, it's called "White Phosphorous". Go to: http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m10211&l=i&size=1&hd=0
to see the crispy Fallujan's who were the victims of American white phosphorous bombs. I'm sure you're very proud you pigs.

Posted by: greg at March 08, 2005 03:50 PM

34 Denial is a social disease.

If the us govt decided to eat newborn babies because of their delicate splash on the pallet, there would be a segment of the population who would adorn lobster bibs and cracking devices, eagerly awaiting a small taste.

I see quite a few of them are here...

(re)Program

Posted by: Sugar Bear at March 08, 2005 04:32 PM

35 Please cease and desist using the word 'Jawa' for your site. This word has been Trademarked by my company Lucas Films LTD.

Above all, I do not accept that any concepts from Star Wars be used to deciminate state propaganda.

Thank you,
GL

Posted by: George Lucas at March 08, 2005 04:37 PM

36 Thank you George, you summed it up. This site is crap and probably is a Rovian propaganda tool. I think Jabba the Hut needs to sit on this asshole.

The U.S. has been targeting journalists in Iraq from the very beginning of the war by purposely taking out (or attempting to take out) journalists trying to cover the occupation and the atrocities like in Fallujah. Here's a little history of targeted killings of journalists.

http://www.marchforjustice.com/id276.htm

Posted by: FemAvenger at March 08, 2005 05:52 PM

37 What is that garbage? Troops shot the woman, killed the agent and they put shit on her? Killers.

Posted by: oneofthebrave at March 08, 2005 06:03 PM

38 The US will always torture children, drop naplam, murder innocents (and reporters) - so go back to watching star wars if you want to fantasise.

Its kinda like a "Luke I am your father" moment when you should realise that you are actually on the side of evil.

Posted by: Carrie Fisher at March 08, 2005 06:18 PM

39 FernAvenger, that's just flat out lies. The US has not been "targeting" journalists. The link you supply above misrepresents the facts about each incident described. For instance, no where above does the piece mention that the Al Jazeera offices in Baghdad on whose roof one reporter died were right next to Iraqi government buildings.

The Palestine hotel shooting was an accident in the heat of battle. TV cameras resemble the guidance component of several anti-tank weapon systems.

You are just repeating long debunked propaganda.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 08, 2005 06:33 PM

40 And how about invading and shutting down the hospital in Fallujah and bombing the only real medical clinic before destroying the city? These things happen to be against international law. And the military has admitted using a form of napalm in Iraq, so you argue with them on this.
Hey, you little brownshirts at Jawa enjoy yourselves. I'll stay on the side of history and humanity.
Go Greg! Go Femavenger! Go George, and all you others who are not buying this garbage from the jackboot-licking Nazis!
(Hey, could this be one of Jeff Gannon's sites? He just can't stop whoring himself!

Posted by: Ellen at March 08, 2005 06:51 PM

41 Robin Roberts...where are you getting your info? The Palestinian Hotel was NOT shot at in the "heat of Bbattle". Soldiers were simply entering the city and freaked out and got trigger happy and shot at something they deemed suspicious. There was NO BATTLE goping on! Hahaha!

Posted by: Ellen at March 08, 2005 06:57 PM

42 I find it very suprising how backward you people are in the information you received.

Sgerna may have information about fallujah or she may not. This does not change the facts that her vehicle was shot in sight of the airport. how do you get this close without proper identification? I'm assuming there are a few checkpoints between where the journalist was picked up and that the intelligence agents would have been VERY familiar with procedures. therefore if someone said stop they would know what to do - or is this just logical thinking?

Another comment to think about is: Dr. Khalid ash-Shaykhli, an official at Iraq’s health ministry, said that the U.S. military used internationally banned weapons during its deadly offensive in the city of Fallujah.

Dr. ash-Shaykhli was assigned by the ministry to assess the health conditions in Fallujah following the November assault there.

Remember - we appointed these people after invading their country. So if our lackeys are saying we used chemical weapons then jeez, maybe we did!

Posted by: Evilhobz at March 08, 2005 07:49 PM

43 Hello,

I like Dr Rusty's faulty association argument here. It's a given she interviewed 'bad people', but that's something real journalists do as part of their line of work, unlike the shrill (so-called) 'News' Readers over at Fox who are nothing more than a propaganda apparatus, rationalizing an attempted murder or at best a mistake. But, if it was an honest mistake, why would Fox be taking such great pains to destroy this writer's credibility now? Could it be the silencing failed and now it's time to send in the clowns to spin it away, after all, "she's a liar, and she deserved it." Which sounds remarkedly like a rapist after getting caught, doesn't it.

But you'll notice Dr Rusty offers zero (0) evidence to contradict the reporter's assertions. He simply attacks her work associations and shouts disparaging names. I work (and sometimes even get beers after work) with Republican apologist all day long, by that same logic, I should be a Republican apoligist by now, but as you may have been able to guess by now, that is not the case.

AND even if she were everyting Dr Rusty has outted her to be, would that justify American troops gunning her down in cold blood? If you really think it through, probably not.

(on a peronal side note to the author: all murderers are bad people Rusty. "Raghead Hagi's" or "Brave Young Defenders of Freedom".)

I post this question: "What about DU?"

DU are weapons of mass destruction. I don't think you'll find any denial about the use of DU by the US in Iraq & elsewhere.

Read about the nature of DU and the fun fact that military personnel are just as much affected as everybody else in Iraq exposed to this horror.
In fact, DU use = Gulf War Syndrome. The curent crimminals running the US government can not deny this, but of course they will try.

A Government & Pentagon that is not only willing, but eager to expose our own troops, fellow citizens, brave young freedom fighters for democracy and goodness, to the horrors that await them, while cutting their VA benefits while they're fighting, probably wouldn't have too much problem killing some lying, deserving, bitch- propagandist about to expose them for using banned chemical weapons against civilians in Falluja and else where.

...so, suck it.

uhh...

Posted by: TruthSeeker at March 08, 2005 07:58 PM

44 my grandmother lived though nazi germany
and she says to me that the obvious disinformation that the media spins today is exactly the same as what she lived though. So sucked in America because history is going to judge everyone of yous for the actions of your leaders. You will be known for milleniums to come for the atrocities you have perportrated. We will learn of all you have covered up in the past 50 years.
Im looking foward to being able to tell my children of the wicked evil americans that nearly took over the world but were defeated by the combined people of the world through the forces of the internet
its going to be a glorious day for mankind!

Posted by: carsten at March 08, 2005 10:50 PM

45 I can't believe you people are actually buying into the US propaganda and smear attempts against this woman..I understand that in the US you no longer have anyone left or is prepared to speak out against the Neocon maniacs who have taken control of your country but in the UK we have our eyes open and people you need to wake up - Iraq is a warzone yes but the way the US is conducting itself is truly sickening - if you don't believe anything about Fallujah why is there no media reports on ABC/CNN/FOX etc about whats happening?
Total media blackout since Nov last year - they flattened a city and you talk about an italian journalist as though SHE is evil and helping the 'resistance' - aren't they entitled to media coverage/ reports from there side???? Does it have to be Fox news flag waving for you to be happy? Things are very wrong with this whole picture. WAKE UP AMERICA! Bush and CO are bleeding the country dry, your 600 Billion in debt to the world, bush is making poor people poorer and the rich richer!
What is going on???
Don't you care about your country at all????
I guess only when it falls down around you will you perhaps get your fat asses off your couch and by then it will be too late.
And acting indignant about the allegations of napalm use etc is laughable when so much has already been proven about the conduct of the US.
Oh well i guess you can just super size that big mac meal, jump in your SUV and carry on being ignorant - i mean hey its not like most of you even know where EYERAQ is right?

Posted by: Oliver G at March 09, 2005 04:10 AM

46 Dr R:

Perhaps you should spend less time with your petjawa....

Posted by: noonmai at March 09, 2005 04:12 AM

47 "The Palestine hotel shooting was an accident in the heat of battle."

There was no "heat of battle" during the Palestine hotel shooting.

"TV cameras resemble the guidance component of several anti-tank weapon systems."

So the tank crew thought a TV camera from the Palestine hotel was actually an anti-tank weapon system locking in on it? What a crock.

You are just repeating long debunked propaganda.

If anyone here is "just repeating long debunked propaganda", it's you.

Posted by: Paul at March 09, 2005 05:34 AM

48 I HAVE HELD THE VIEW THAT THE USA IS IN PRINCIPAL
A CRIMINAL NATION/SOCIETY. THEY'LL DO ANYTHING TO FURTHER THEIR OWN INTEREST, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST TO THE REST OF THE WORLD AND ITS PEOPLE.
I PRAY THAT I'LL LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THE DEMISE OF THIS BARBAROUS NATION AND ITS RUTHLESS AND QUITE PRIMITIVE PEOPLE. AS FOR MYSELF I WISH THEM WHAT THEY RITCHLY DESERVE, NAMELY THE WROTH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD.

Posted by: FRED at March 09, 2005 06:02 AM

49 after reading all this I can see what jawa is an acronym for . . .Just Another Wanker Amerinazi

Posted by: Hi Im George the war criminal at March 09, 2005 06:35 AM

50 Reading the article, seeing the pictures, reading the responses, the vile loathing, the hatred, the contempt. Has the world always been insane? Are your prejudices and hatred against America so deeply instilled that your brain shuts off at the first contradiction of your poorly informed little world-view? It was a tragic accident that resulted in the death of an Italian soldier who was fighting bravely at the behest of his nation and his nation's government in collusion with America to make the world a better, safer place. Accidents in war happen, if you believe that every accident is an American conspiracy, what about Pat Tillman? What the real issue here is not, are contentions about the veracity of her kidnapping (though it is questionable), nor wether or not a mistake was made (and one was), the issue is that in the wake of this incident this so-called journalist is using the attention to grandstand her odious and despicible lies and disinformation about the United States and its actions in Iraq. Now, some of you read this and will immediately brand me an Ameri-nazi, a brown shirt, a right-wing nutjob and shrug my comment off. Why? Because it is easier to compartmentalize me under some little mental file than it is to use your brain and challenge your own beliefs. I watch fox, I watch cnn, I watch nbc. Hey, I read the nro, I also frequent the democratic underground. I conscientiously confront my views with information from all sides and winnow through the various biases and motives and my greatest tool is one that has been used for ages when analyzing rhetoric and propaganda. Qui bono, who profits? What does the US have to gain from the assasination of a journalist from a small radical newspaper, risking the international incident which is now transpiring, and damaging support in a war in which international cooperation is in constant jepordy of falling out from under them? What does a small time radical journalist who voluntarily goes to Iraq, and gets captured by the very people she is interviewing and has shown to be sympathetic for in the past? Now, if she were an important figure and a covert operation or assasination attempt were really the aim, why would we put American soldiers obviously at the trigger? One would assume a suicide bomber, or a car bomb blast which could be blamed on the insurgents, which occur much too frequently in the region to begin with; would serve as a much more plausible method. You may think Americans to be unintelligent and arrogant, but surely you cannot be so biased as to think they are so much so as to risk the consequences with no appreciable gains and in a manner which ties them to the act? I appreciate the naievity and ernestness with which some people decry war as murder, and think that all the problems in this world can be solved with a discussion and an accord. I wish I could blame all the evils in the world on an easy target, a looming devil to save me from having to acknowledge the complexities and realities of this world, hide from the fact that some people don't understand any tool of diplomacy or hold to any word or oath other than that instituted by force. Instead, I sit here and marvel at the insanity of it all and question whether it were always so.

Posted by: Laughing Guy at March 09, 2005 11:13 AM

51 As an American, I'm astounded at the level and volume of absurd allegations that I've encountered in this comments section. That any rational person could actually believe the nonsense that FRED and others are spouting staggers the imagination. I also understand that arguing with the holders of such fantasy-driven Anti-American fetishes is nearly pointless; logic cannot counter a delusion so strongly held.

But for those of you who are buying into Signora Sgrena's blatant falsehoods (look at the wire services photos of the car and think, for Heaven's sake!) and expressing your fond wishes for the demise and the demonization of this Republic, just consider: if you get your wish, and America either declines or decides to disengage and retreat into isolation from world affairs, a difficult question arises.

Who's going to defend you when the beheading, Dark Age thugs come for you? Whom will you call upon to solve your petty regional conflicts that are the norm of the last millenium of European history? Who's going to take your side against a revitalized Russia, or China, or an economically-depleted Germany that once again starts looking for lebensraum? The mighty EU? France, with its sterling military prowess? The UN? At bottom you know the truth. You can't do it, and you shelter under our protection while enjoying the luxury (for now) of flinging adolescent criticisms at us, counting on good-natured America to take care of more adult concerns. Maybe, instead of spending so much time on increasingly bizarre attempts to implicate America in yet another act of unthinkable evil, you might consider actually doing something constructive, for yourselves and the world. But you won't, will you? You'll claim that your infantile accusations are "constructive," while privately, in your heart of hearts, you'll know there's no truth in your charges, and that the fact that you can make them without fear of reprisal is proof positive that America is nothing like the monster you enjoy pretending it to be.

Grow up, Europe.

Please

JM

Posted by: JM at March 09, 2005 11:26 AM

52 this is all a bunch of bs. ALL of this is Lies AND ALL THE COMMENTS POSTED BY THE PRO US GUYS IS SPIN. ROT IN HELL......

Posted by: ???? at March 09, 2005 11:42 AM

53
"Who's going to defend you when the Dark Age thugs come for you"?

It is not going to be "Cops" JM. Turn off the TV and tune into reality.

Take a good hard squint at the skin tones of some of the "beheaders".

The CIA/Mossad is behind a majority of these assassinations.

As a former Marine Corps NCO and a journalist married into a Moslem family reporting from the middle east, I can assure you that these acts are FORBIDDEN under the Koran.

Think about it - I know it's hard with an IQ equivalent to the temperature of bathwater - but stop and consider what possible gain Moslems could attain from these acts. You come up with a big bad zero. Then ascertain the gain the intelligence agencies reap, re: CIA/Mossad in addition to the Bush administration. Bingo. Max propaganda value. Pesky, truth reporting dead journalists as a bonus. What a deal.

Open your eyes. The "Dark Age thugs" are your neighbors. They are "comin' for you".

Robert S. Finnegan
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
Sgt. USMC
seanews1@yahoo.com

Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 09, 2005 12:10 PM

54 Bravo, JM, bravo.

Europe is asleep, they enjoy flouting their importance while leaving the United States to clean up the messes of the world.

This particular incident is a tragedy and nothing less. While the entirety of the US military simply can't be "good," thus implying that some of our troops are possibly twisted idiots and murderers, most of them are "good." The very idea that the US would target journalists is just moronic daydreaming, what would we have to gain? I know that we would have much to lose, we don't neet to make other, much more immature nations, even more put out with us than they already are.

Europe, Asia, the entire world needs to face it, the United States is the Roman Empire of our day. Now, the Roman Empire did fall, yes, and undoubtedly the US will one day not be the leader of the world, but that day appears to be a long way off.

Never before in history has such a gentle power been displayed. A power wielded with mercy and a basic respect for human life that looks first to build. If the US destroys, it destroys for the greater good. Yes, we look out for our self interests, but let me ask you a question; who doesn't? I digress though.

History will show the US as being a mighty empire. An empire that liberally held out its velvet glove while resorting to the iron fist only when needed. The Soviets had their dialectic, I have this firm belief.

Call me a Nazi, brown-shirt, whatever you like. I trust my country, I trust it to do what's right. In fact, I personally wish that we were in North Korea and Iran right now, maybe Syria too. I wish that we'd either withdraw from the entirely corrupt and worthless UN or firmly shake it by the scruff of the neck and order it to shape up, to become something of value.

The age of the Anglosphere is upon us. Other nations, other people need to realize this or risk becoming as left behind as the foolish Islamofascist dark age murderers are.

Well, I've rambled enough. I encourage some of you anti-Americans to pick up a decent history book, because maybe then you'll see what a gentle giant that the US is.

Joshua

Posted by: Joshua the American at March 09, 2005 12:51 PM

55
Perhaps you should take your own advice and perform some historical research "Joshua".

That said, I must add that your cowardice is astonishing, to say the least. Bad enough to spout the propaganda of the criminal regime now in power in the U.S., but to attack the very individuals who now hold your future liberty in their hands? Suicide.

You are a shining example of the successful propaganda machine now presiding over the U.S. media. A true success story. Perhaps you could apply for the recently vacated position of White House reporter "Jeff Gannon". Prostitutes of a feather... eh?

Personally, I have never had a problem with individuals such as yourself - those too petrified to acknowledge the truth and act upon it - but to attempt to justify your ass-kissing, sycophantic, lick-spittle fecal diatribe by envoking an adherence to so-called U.S. patriotism on your part and presenting the current administration that is devoted to your destruction as your savior is remnicent of the German population under Hitler. Indeed, you are "embracing your killers". I can think of no action more despicable.

My advice to you is to simply shut up, get out of the way and let the brave individuals of the world take the casualties in this war on terrorism, the terrorists being the present U.S. administration. As you are a supposed student of history, take a squint at the actions of Joseph P. Kennedy prior to WWII while he was Ambassador to England. You fit that category to a tee: self serving, cowardly, appeaser.

We frankly don't care that you do not have the nuts to stand up against this tyranny. I do not care that you will benefit from our sacrifice. This reality must surely give you a case of the willies.

Do yourself a favor and crawl back under your rock of choice. Be silent, coward.


Robert S. Finnegan
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
seanews1@yahoo.com

Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 09, 2005 01:39 PM

56 Oliver, there are many, many people like me who DON'T believe the propaganda the Bush administration puts out. But, with the corporate media kissing bush's butt we don't get any coverage. There is, however, alot going on that you don't know about. I went to see Dahr Jamail, (one of the very few unembedded reporters in Iraq) speak. My family gave quite a bit to him as he is providing one of the few accounts of Iraq not seen through the military's filter. I don't know, I do what I can.
My husband came here from Germany and he says the same things you do. Well, the heat will be off Germany now. We Americans are the new Nazi's. And one day America will have to constantly apologize for crimes our ancestors committed. My husband always got nasty comments for being German when he traveled. Even though his own Grandfather spent time in a camp for political enemies. I guess my own grandkids, when I have them, will go through this.
And Joshua, you talk as though Americans are better than all other persons, that America is always right. Sounds a bit like "Amerika Uber Alles" to me. The Master Race, huh? You know, the Germans didn't do what they did because they wanted to be evil. They believed in lies and thought when they invaded countries they were doing something good. That's what they were told. "Free Poland"! Sure! You have to examine any leaders actions critically. And for your info, I read all the time. I usually read books on history. It sure does repeat itself.

Posted by: Ellen at March 09, 2005 01:43 PM

57 ellen:

"One person spells "spincter" as spinkter. The next person spells "Iraq" as "Irak"."

Tell me, how many languages do you perfectly speak and never make mistakes? Do you know that Germans/Austrians or people from the Switzerland spell Iraq as Irak? No, of course not, b´cause your are only a arrogant and ignorant little white girl in a nutshell.


Posted by: Guggi at March 09, 2005 05:12 PM

58 Ellen, I was watching live as the troops entered Baghdad. There was a battle and the troops were advancing into unsecured territory.

Paul, I see you have no argument. Look at the controls of a AT-3 Sagger sometime, compare it to a video camera and learn something some time.

Truthseeker, Depleted Uranium is not a weapon of mass destruction. That's a blatant lie. DU is a relatively benign metal no more dangerous than other heavy metals that could be used in tank shells like tungsten. It does not cause "gulf war syndrome" ( if such a thing even exists ). Claims to the contrary come from the whacky left, there is no medical basis for such nutty claims.

Finnegan, the CIA? ROFL. That's hilarious.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 09, 2005 08:57 PM

59 More evidence of "Ellen"s ignorance, and that "Paul" is clueless, journalist Jules Crittenden was an eyewitness at the Palestine Hotel shooting and describes the incident as the tank crew believing that they were firing on an Iraqi forward observer ( "FO" ) during combat operations.

This belief came from the fact that they had found a radio net that had Iraqi voices directing mortar fire on them from a tall building in the vincinity.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 09, 2005 10:02 PM

60 Hard to belive Robert was in the Corps especially an NCO. With a warped set of ideas and values like his must have won him many friends while in the Corps. He talks about Bush propaganda, Google him and see some of the anti war propaganda that he has put out. CIA/Mosad indeed what a load of BS.

Once again the left was wrong, democracy spreading in the Middle East and his Muslim terrorist brothers now fighting a losing game. I live near Camp Lejeune and as a retired MSgt I had a chance to talk to young grunts that have recently returned from both to Iraq and Afghanistan. They tell me moral is high, re-enlistments are up or steady and they are pleased to have brought free elections to an oppressed people. They understand the cost that was paid but to a man they will all go back and most will in the coming year.
I guess the left really does like totalitarian regimes like are found in almost every Muslim dominated country.

Posted by: wildbill at March 10, 2005 04:53 AM

61 We're fighting this war for our masters - Israel. Sharon has the goods on Bush and is blackmailing him. Israel warned the United States that 9-11 was about to happen in no uncertain terms. Carl Rove and Bush calculated that it would be a good thing for them politically and let it happen. Now our brave troops are laying down their lives in the service of Israel. And we lose more liberties everyday and plunge deeper into debt. We're ruining our democracy for a bunch of filthy ZioNazis. Dumb shits. 230 years of history down the drain. Soon will be living under Marshall law. Welcome to the death march into slavery. All for a bunch of fucking Jews.

Posted by: greg at March 10, 2005 11:48 AM

62 Always amusing to see the anti-semites crawl out from under the rock. I understand that they die if you pour a little salt on them.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 10, 2005 05:59 PM

63 FINNEGAN: You are a traitor. A pure asshole that has been buggered by the ragheads. You shame the Marine Corp if in fact you ever were one. I doubt it. Shame on you for being a cowardly little shit. Probably to much of an asshole to get an American wife. So you married into a pile of shit. You sold your soul to the lowest of the low. It is you who should watch out. A lot of marines would enjoy a shot at you.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 01:49 AM

64 siete solo dei poveri sfigati.
Enjoy
^_^

Posted by: Alex at March 11, 2005 05:59 AM

65 "wildbill"/greyrooster":

My DD-214 is on file at MCRFAAC, KCMO, it speaks for itself, you studly pukes.

And by the way, it's "Marine Corps", chickenfeathers.

I welcome any young Marines, or older, demented jarheads to "take a shot at me", should you have the guts and lack the intelligence. It would behoove you however to take a squint at my service record in advance.

I would also suggest that when you issue threats, have the balls to sign your full name and give contact info, as I have, and be ready to back them up with lead. As a matter of fact, I will post my telephone number and invite these brave individuals to give me a call. We can then set up a date to take care of business. However, like Chesty, I specify sawed-off 12 guages at 20 paces. Employ a second should you so desire.

I do take comfort in the fact that you brainwashed morons are a species on the brink of extinction in the world. By all means, give me a call and let us advance the eventual and inevitable demise of your mutant species.


Robert S. Finnegan
Sgt.
USMC
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
seanews1@yahoo.com
(510) 797-1481 (US Bureau)



Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 11, 2005 11:31 AM

66 Sgt. Finnegan, while I have the utmost respect for the American military and I realize that not everyone in our various services have had the same experiences, I have to say that you're rather anti-American for a Marine Corps NCO. Sorry for the run-on sentence.

Anyway, after looking at some of your work, I've come to the conclusion that you're a little bit skewed. I wish you the best of luck in straightening yourself out.

To everyone, don't you think it's a bit childish to throw around threats? I know that we, meaning Americans, have free speech, but come on, police yourselves. It's rarely constructive to say, "they'll want a shot at you," or, "sawed-off 12 gauges(sic) at 20 paces."

Anyhow, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do, Sgt. Finnegan. Good luck with your(I wish I had italics for that word) propaganda in the future. I know what I'm talking about, I study. In any event, I need to get to class. Adios. (Hey, look a foreign language! I'm multilingual, sort of, too.)

Joshua

Posted by: Joshua the American at March 11, 2005 12:50 PM

67 How amusing, another idiot threatening to shoot people on the internet, ie., criminal violence. Hmmmm, that means no more than a 59 IQ on most standard tests.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 11, 2005 02:24 PM

68 Finnegan is a piece of muslim loving shit. A liar and bullshit artist. Just another asshole deprived of friends so he had to go to the other side. Has to kiss his muslim family's ass.
If the traitor ever comes back to the states I hope they arrest him and try him for treason. He shames the marine corps just pretending to be one. Any marine would piss on him and his muslim herd of animals. Lower than the lowest. Benedict Arnold is a patriot compared to him.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 03:12 PM

69 During an argument between the Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, Peres said that Israelis' policies of continued violence might "turn the US against us".
 
To this Sharon retorted:
 
"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;
 
WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."

This was 23 days after 9-11. Israel is blackmailing America because they have evidence that Bush/Rove let 9-11 happen to further their agenda. Wake up America. Don't be sheeple. Israel is an enemy.
 
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
(IAP News)

Posted by: greg at March 11, 2005 03:37 PM

70 And so is that treasonous tyrant George W. Bush. May justice smile on the victims of 9-11.

Posted by: greg at March 11, 2005 03:41 PM

71 Greg: You simple minded prick. If the Jews attack us we'll kick their asses too. But they didn't did they. Most of us have no great love for the Jews. Place a Jewish rabbi, a muslim cleric and a Eastern Orthodox Christian side by side and they all look like a bunch of bearded old shits dressed like circus clowns. The difference is 9-11 was a muslim thing. Same as the bombing in Spain, the bombings in Iraq, Bali, etc: The Jews aren't doing the bombings. The spawn of Islam is. When Islam takes care of what it produces then we can talk about fair play for Palestine.

As far as George Bush being as you say treasonous. You dumb ass. Grow up. No one will listen to your stand on Israel when you come with stupid shit like that.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 05:43 PM

72 The traitor Finnegan works for some muslim newspaper in Indonesia. He married some muslim monkey native and started attacking America to please in inlaws and others.
One of his biggest articles is on the soldier that refuses to go to Iraq. He rants and raves on this as proof our Military is turning against their country. One out of 500,000. and our troops are refusing to fight. Yea, right.
His gutter paper hasn't mentioned the 15 men, women and children beheaded by his muslim friends a few days ago. Nor has he mentioned the 29 shot in the back while bound.
There is no human on earth as low as this cowardly traitor. He acts with great bravito giving his name, address, phone etc: The truth is the address, phone # is that of the Southeast Asia News. A muslim indonesian news shit organization. The same info is already given on the internet. Real tough guy. What a piece of shit.
I doubt this shit was ever a marine. He claims he was a sgt, an E-5. Which means he didn't get very far. Excuse me to my true Marine brothers but Finnegan, big fucking deal. I was an O. 3rd Batt 26 marines. 63-67. My sons an O in Iraq right now, killing your asshole, murderous, backward assed buddies. You fucking internet phony. Piss on you and all the little monkeys you live with. No one is as cowardly as one who turns on his country. You putrid punk.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 06:19 PM

73 "greg" is an anti-semitic liar. That fake quote from a Hamas front organization was long ago debunked.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 11, 2005 10:10 PM

74 That is no fake quote. The truth hurts doesn't it?

Posted by: greg at March 12, 2005 08:30 AM

75 If it was an assassination attempt, precisely why didn't the "assassins" empty their magazines into the passenger compartment? Or light it up with heavier weapons or a grenade from an M-240? They could have silenced all the passengers at once, quickly, and deniably.
The only excuse for not greasing all the dagoes is that the troops did in fact shoot to stop the car.
The moral of this story is that the next time troops shoot to stop anyone they should make sure there are no survivors.

Posted by: Hugh Jass at March 12, 2005 09:11 AM

76
Chickenfeathers -

I'm in Amerika. The number: (510) 797-1481 goes right to my desk. Waiting for your call.

Robert S. Finnegan

Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 12, 2005 05:12 PM

77 You've got a desk but can't spell America. A true muslim dip shit low life.

Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2005 03:11 PM

78 Hugh Jass = Huge Ass

Posted by: greg at March 14, 2005 09:37 AM

79
And you have fingers but cannot find the balls to dial.

Robert S. Finnegan
Sgt.
USMC
(510) 797-1481

Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 14, 2005 12:42 PM

80 The US invaded Iraq due to obvious lies about WMD.

When one ASSUMES what's true ahead of time, voluminous evidence to the contrary is ignored, and confirmatory lies are exalted as true. But a-priori "thinking" is the hallmark of the "right" and the fanatical religious biggots that support them.

The right wing media doesn't mention the tens of thousands of innocent civilians (many of whom are children) killed by US troops. This is reality, and the peoples of the world are aware of this reality. Only propagandized Americans don't know of this very tragic situation.

I for one am sick and tired of the evil done by my government around the world. So many democracies have been overthrown around the world only to establish dictators who are friendly to American corporations.

Posted by: Rafael at March 14, 2005 01:15 PM

81 Mr. Finnegan- If you are indeed in America, given the hatred for this government that you so vociferously proclaim, the fact that you are still alive and unharmed and able to continue your little hobby, gives the lie to your allegations.

Or, to put it more concisely, if they wanted you dead, you'd be dead, sawed-off 12 Ga. notwithstanding.

As a former Marine, you know this to be true.

But propagandists such as yourself are relatively easy to ignore since no one but the true believers listen to them anyway.

Have a nice day.

Rafael, the New Your Times published an article just a few days ago. Seems Saddam did indeed have WMDs but got them out of the country just ahead of the US troops. So you'll have to scrap the "Bush Lied" lapel button.

It's so strange that the rest of the world knows about the "tens of thousands of innocent civilians (many of whom are children) killed by US troops." especially the troops who are supposed to have done the killing.

Unless, of course, it's all a vast right-wing conspiracy.

BTW, there's precious little difference between "fanatical religious biggots" on the right and fanatical political bigots on the left.

N.W. Johnson, aka troll

Posted by: Newbern W. Johnson at March 15, 2005 03:09 PM

82 Except that the ones on the Right are right!

Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at March 15, 2005 06:04 PM

83

Gee, troll (an apt moniker), thanks for the heads-up.

I am in Amerika, stud, land of the depraved and the lost, and all you have to do is let your little pinkies do the walking to confirm this. Direct contact. (510) 797-1481. Call collect, NEWBERN, and talk to SATAN in the first person.

Troll, what a fucking name, it says it all. And I have your johnson in my pants. That's right dipshit. Let's see if you have the nuts you display in this forum. You an me dude. Fuck, you choose the weapons, anything from M-1's to 16's. 1911A? Do that too.
Fuck all that... what about K-Bar's? Want to go that route? Threaten me? Cough it up.

I don't believe you are a Marine. Nobody that knows me in the Corps or has seen my service record has the balls to make a statement like yours, much less initiate contact.

You neocon freak penis-heads are under the illusion that all war protesters may be fit into one category. I am here to dispell you of that misconception. You forgot the war veterans, to your detriment. And I will make this confrontation that you initiated detremental to your well-being, troll. You started it, DO IT.

You have the number stud. The confrontation of your sorry-assed life awaits, maggot. Punch the numbers, puke.

Robert S. Finnegan
Sgt.
USMC
Castro Valley, CA
(510) 797-1481

Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 16, 2005 06:45 PM

84 Sgt. Finnegan,
That chicken shit "greyfeathers" is hiding out at:
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/071685.php#more

Posted by: james at March 17, 2005 08:58 AM

85 "Sgt." Finnegan , you ARE anti-American and are disgraceful. You are really, truly, morally reprehensible. There is no limit to the pity and embarrassment I feel for your claim to be an American. You are a sad, sorry little hate-junkie. You are a twisted devil-serving sociopath. You have no redeeming qualities to speak of and you smell.


Rafael, you are DELUSIONAL.

'nuff said

Your pal,
MaxMomFL

Posted by: MaxMomFL at March 22, 2005 11:20 PM

86
MaxMomFL.... sounds like some kind of laxative.

I probably am a devil-serving
sociopath to the neo-con freak zombies who infest this country. Tough shit.

We will eventually destroy you rotting corpses, expunging your parasitic existence from the body of America. Scream in outrage while you can, or better yet, scream to the man himself:

Robert S. Finnegan
Sgt.
USMC
Managing Editor
Southeast Asia News
seanews1@yahoo.com
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