Giuliana Sgrena's Blood Libel Against the US
Giuliana Sgrena is a propagandist for the Communist daily rag Il Manifesto. Her writings do not reveal a bias, they reveal that Sgrena is an enemy of the United States of America and responsible for supporting terrorists and the murder of American soldiers and civilians.She accuses the US of complicity in mass murder, the use of napalm on civilians, the targetting of journalists, and the torture of children. Since the MSM has now reduced itself to reporting Sgrena's contradictory stories as fact, shouldn't we be examaning he track record? One of Giuliana's friends dropped us a line and assured us that Sgrena is above reproach. The following is evidence that Sgrena is a lying propagandist who issued blood lible reports. Her reports are so disgusting that a reader of them, if they were to be believed, would be morally bound to fight the US. From a German article in Die Zeit we learn that this is not the first time Sgrena has accused the US of targetting reporters (more on Die Ziet's bias here and here):
What we believed was impossible has happened. The Americans have not spared even the mythic Hotel Al-Rashid [where reporters were staying]. It was only scratched. Was that a mistake? Or was it supposed to be a message?It only gets worse from there. Sgrena was documenting 'US war-crimes' against residents of Fallujah when she was 'abducted' by terrorists. Here is what Sgrena was writing about shortly before she was captured:
The massacre in Falluja continues .By massacre, Sgrena means the US invasion of the city, not the massacre of innocent civilians by terrorists. Here is evidence of what Sgrena calls 'the resistance' was up to in Fallujah. Check out the entire slide-show. Remember, al Jazeera admits that Sgrena had "very good contacts in Baghdad, including with the ulamas [Muslim clergy]" and was interviewing refugees at a mosque said to be the center of insurgent activities in Baghdad when she was 'abducted'.
In this story, Sgrena admits that no facts exist to bolster the outrageous claims, yet she reports that American troops were using Napalm and even nuclear weapons!!!
«We buried them, but we could not identify them because they were charred from the napalm bombs used by the Americans». People from Saqlawiya village, near Falluja, told al Jazeera television, based in Qatar, that they helped bury 73 bodies of women and children completely charred, all in the same grave. The sad story of common graves, which started at Saddam’s times, is not yet finished. Nobody could confirm if napalm bombs have been used in Falluja, but other bodies found last year after the fierce battle at Baghdad airport were also completely charred and some thought of nuclear bombs.She repeats the allegation here along with alleging a civilian massacre in Fallujah by US forces:
2,085 killed in the attack according to the information given out by Iraqi Security Minister Quassim Daud, without specifying the number of civilians. The problem, says the Minister, is that of identification, as many of the victims were not carrying documents. But many observers say that the problem is that many of the bodies were unrecognisable because they were so carbonised that the use of napalm was suspected.Here is another blood libel statement from Sgrena:
Fallujah is dying under the criminally indifferent gaze not only of the United States, but also of the Iraqi government, or at least the interim Prime Minister AllawiHere is Sgrena's pro-terrorist rallying piece for the 'resistance' in Fallujah:
A fire rain crashed over Falluja as soon as the curfew entered into force, at 6 p.m., sunset, after the Iftar breaks the Ramadan fast. At the same time, from the minaret of the mosque, the voice of the Imam tried to rise over the noise of the bombs to incite the mujahidin to the battle, which for Falluja will surely be the hardest since the beginning of the invasion.... The excuse of terrorists is the pretext to destroy the symbol of resistance.Here is another image from Sgrena's 'resistance' in Fallujah Notice the flag? Below are images of beheading murder victims Jack Hensley and Ken Bigley. More of Sgrena's blood libels agains the US. In this account she interviews a woman who claims US forces tortured her and her son:
dragged me down five flights of stairs, still in my nightdress. I only just managed to grab hold of my baya on my way out the door,' Mithal related. 'They took me to Sujud Palace, which had been named after Saddam's wife, Sajida. On the way there they pointed out to me a man in a jellaba with a bag over his head, tied to a tree. It was my son. I recognised him by his trousers. They dragged him over to where I was and took the bag off his head. He had been horribly tortured, with deep cuts to his head. Then they said to him, 'Say goodbye to your mother.' After that, they put the bag back on his head and tied to him to a post again. Then a soldier dragged me off again.... [Sgrena asks] Did you know of cases of rape? [Answer] 'Yes, but I'm not going to go into that. In our society, it's something you don't talk about.' [Sgrena asks] And what about children, how were they treated? [Answer] 'We heard them screaming. [The chiltren] were tortured too. Mostly dogs were set on them.'Where else do we find Sgrena's work? Howard Zinn's notoriously anti-American Z-Mag:
The sand of the desert has swallowed the victims of the various waves of repression, endured by the tormented country and perpetrated, first by the SovietGiuliana Sgrena is a liar and a propagandist. The reason the terrorist fight our rebuilding efforts in Iraq is because they actually believe this type of propaganda. Sgrena is a modern Goebbels, a soldier of the enemy engaged in spreading false and malicious rumors about America. Simply because you are a journalist does not mean you are not the enemy. Ms. Sgrena, you are the enemy.
invaders, then by the Taleban who have buried about 3000 Afghans of the Hazara ethnic group here, and finally by the militia of Rashid Dostum assisted by US and British agents. This last tragedy took place after the battle of Kunduz (beginning of December 2001), the last sack of Taleban resistence to the American bombardment. After bloody clashes, 5000 combatants - Talebans, Pakistanis, Chechens and "Arabs" - by then reduced to hunger, had surrundered to the Alliance of the North and had been handed over to the Uzbek General Rashid Dostum. 800 were taken to Qala-i-Janghi, about twenty kilometres from Mazar-i-Sharif, in the fortress of Dostum, one of the most bloodthirsty warlords. The prisoners were locked in the storehouse and massacred. Of the roughly 5000 who left Kunduz for Shebarghan, little over 3000 would arrive; the others - died of suffocation or for wounds procured when some agents had fired on the containers "in order to let them breathe", others still ended with a blow on the back of the neck - were buried in the mass graves dug in the desert of Dasht-i-Layli, of which we found evident traces and testimonies during our visit to Shebarghan in June 2002 ... Other testimonies of mass graves and of torture have been collected in a report by John Hefferman of the American organization Physicians for Human Rights (il Manifesto, May 29, 2002), [but] ignored by the American administration. Disappearances and torture, what the international legislation defines as "crimes of war", still unpunished, were also documented well by Jamie Doran in his "Massacre in Mazar", presented to the European and Italian parliaments and transmitted also by RAI 3 in the programme "C'era una volta", and described in an article in Le Monde Diplomatique/il Manifesto (September 2002). The tortures carried out in the prison of Shebarghan by CIA agents who were to select elements suspected of having ties with the organization of Osama bin Laden, al Qaida, to be sent to the US military base of Guantanamo in Cuba - blows on the neck bone and irreversible nerve injuries caused by leaving hands tied behind the back for too long - may now gain visibility again in the light of what is emerging in Iraq.
Posted by: Frank at March 07, 2005 05:50 PM
Posted by: Vonski at March 07, 2005 05:55 PM
Sgrena is being lionised as a new Joan of Arc in Europe and no one is reporting the many lies that she told about Falluja and US forces.
The dignity and reputation of the US and her forces have been tarnished by this womans serious allegations. Therefore, it is in the hand of all patriotic US investigative journalists and webloggers to scrutinise the case with care.
Someone should actually visit Falluja and test whether a nuclear weapon was dropped where she says it was, if twenty doctors were executed by US troops at a hospital there and to try to find the sources and truth behind her stories.
The whole thing is worthy of a film-documentary investigation.
Posted by: USlover at March 07, 2005 06:14 PM
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Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 07, 2005 08:02 PM
Posted by: AvenueBalum at March 07, 2005 08:17 PM
Right, the Italian government wanted to fund the terrorists they are fighting against in Iraq, so they sent a journalist from a communist paper that opposes them to Iraq to fake her own kidnapping in order to do it? And you people complain about moonbats?
Posted by: mantis at March 07, 2005 08:28 PM
Mantis. No one accused the Italian government of being complicent in Sgrena's kidnapping. We are, however, accusing Sgrena of being complicit in her own kidnapping. For instance, the day he video taped plea for Italy to remove its troops from Iraq came the day before a vote in the Italian parliament on that same issue.
But Sgrena's crimes are worse then petty larsony of the type committed by Benjamanin Vanderford (the San Francisco political-wanna-be who staged an execution video). The types of crimes Sgrena alleges against the US are blood libels. IF what she is saying is true, THEN Arabs are required (from a moral standpoint) to fight 'Zionist-Christian Crusador forces'. She is the enemy.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at March 07, 2005 09:11 PM
government had warned jounalists etc. to stay away and imo this shooting everyone is getting into a tizzy about was just as it looks, an accident!
Posted by: sparky at March 07, 2005 09:15 PM
I know you're not arguing that Rusty, but I was responding to Vonski, who apparently thinks this might have been an attempt to get money to terrorists instead of outright donating money to them. Since it is assumed that the Italian government paid that ransom, this theory implies that the Italian government would have been complicit in this conspiracy. In any case I am not arguing that it's not possible Sgrena was involved in her own kidnapping, I think that is a possibility and her abduction is pretty weird compared to others.
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Posted by: Cain at March 07, 2005 10:25 PM
Posted by: Vonski at March 07, 2005 10:50 PM
Ok, but you didn't use your blog for that, so your comment here is all I had to go on. If I misunderstood what you meant then please disregard my comment.
Posted by: mantis at March 07, 2005 11:10 PM
Sgrena's sympathizing with cold-blooded killers is dangerous. Thanks for getting the truth out.
Posted by: Labosseuse at March 08, 2005 12:27 AM
Posted by: mrgrimm at March 08, 2005 12:55 AM
One, in particular, who showed signs of attention at every whim of mine, was incredibly dashing. In order to understand what really was going on I asked him in a provoking manner if he was happy because I was leaving or because I staying. I was both surprised and happy when he said, "I only know that you will go away, but I don't know when". Confirming the fact that something new was happening, at a certain point in time both of them entered the room as if to comfort me and to joke. "Congratulations", they said, "you are leaving for Rome". For Rome, they said exactly that.
I experienced a strange sensation. Because that word immediately evoked liberation but also projected an emptiness within me.
She's not only evil, she's certifiably nuts. Stockholm Sgrena indeed.
Posted by: Beth at March 08, 2005 01:07 AM
"The US has used napalm in Iraq. It's one of a few countries that still do."
What a moonbat, as a retired USAF flight line maintainer on fighter bombers I can assure you that the USAF and Naval air has nor used napalm in a generation. In fact all the leftover Napalm canisters that were serviceable have over the years been converted to travel pods. Travel pods allow fighter crews to transport their luggage when going on a deployment. Napalm was am area denial weapon that is not very accurate in delivery when it was used. Today we use bombs like the GBU-12, which is a laser guided 500-pound weapon. In an urban environment with friendly troops in close contact you want to hose the bad guys down with the most accurate munitions out there. Plus it cuts down on collateral damage.
Posted by: wildbill at March 08, 2005 03:38 AM
There is more to the story than you and I will ever know. I'm very happy she is alive and recovering from such a series of traumatic incidents. When she begins to file her reports of what happened in Fallujah, we will be truly amazed.
Posted by: Collin Baber at March 08, 2005 05:32 AM
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Posted by: js at March 08, 2005 07:52 AM
The same goes for this innocent truth seeking Italin Communist, if we wanted her dead Mr. Grimm, we would have done more that just "shot" her, we would have made that car look like microwaved swiss cheese. But just in case you don't know what a microwave is, its a 20/21st century oven that heats things up fast.
Posted by: Cain at March 08, 2005 11:17 AM
The CIA/Mossad have a track record of silencing us, regardless of origins. Make trouble for the regime, and you are dead. Commie, conservative, independent: tell the truth and die. The truth has no boundries. Regardless of political stripe, our job is to get it out.
Pearl, Webb, Thompson, and others. All killed for reporting the truth. All different except for their dedication to the truth as journalists.
This failed murder will have ramifications that the regimes in power drastically underestimated.
They cannot kill us all. This is fact. This spells their ultimate demise. We will continue to report, regardless of the consequences.
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeast Asia News
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 08, 2005 12:46 PM
Posted by: bat at March 08, 2005 01:07 PM
Posted by: Common Sense at March 08, 2005 01:25 PM
Robert S. Finnegan
How can you consider yourselves a respectable journalist if you start making implications and bold statements without the facts, your gonna feel shit sorry for yourself when the truth comes out.
Posted by: Cain at March 08, 2005 01:26 PM
Posted by: SuchFormidableMobilization at March 08, 2005 01:30 PM
Posted by: Cain at March 08, 2005 01:35 PM
Since ALL OF THIS IS A LOAD OF CRAP AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT, we all have to live our lives.
So, keep on livin' in a way that you will be able to live with your actions on your death bed.
Posted by: Douglas Rhiner at March 08, 2005 01:38 PM
Posted by: Redfoot at March 08, 2005 01:58 PM
One person spells "spincter" as spinkter. The next person spells "Iraq" as "Irak". People call Sgrena a grasy pasta slurper. You're doing this to make people see how ignorant and stupid some Americans are, right? God, TELL me you aren't really this dumb! It's the ugly American!!!!
Posted by: ellen at March 08, 2005 02:22 PM
you must be paid by the bushrael to tell all this crap any way at least your tried but I believe the other side of the story not yours
I read french italian and arabic so what you talking about doesn't come a million miles from truth you are so far away from the facts
Posted by: You can never burry the truth at March 08, 2005 03:34 PM
to see the crispy Fallujan's who were the victims of American white phosphorous bombs. I'm sure you're very proud you pigs.
Posted by: greg at March 08, 2005 03:50 PM
If the us govt decided to eat newborn babies because of their delicate splash on the pallet, there would be a segment of the population who would adorn lobster bibs and cracking devices, eagerly awaiting a small taste.
I see quite a few of them are here...
Posted by: Sugar Bear at March 08, 2005 04:32 PM
Above all, I do not accept that any concepts from Star Wars be used to deciminate state propaganda.
Posted by: George Lucas at March 08, 2005 04:37 PM
The U.S. has been targeting journalists in Iraq from the very beginning of the war by purposely taking out (or attempting to take out) journalists trying to cover the occupation and the atrocities like in Fallujah. Here's a little history of targeted killings of journalists.
Posted by: FemAvenger at March 08, 2005 05:52 PM
Posted by: oneofthebrave at March 08, 2005 06:03 PM
Its kinda like a "Luke I am your father" moment when you should realise that you are actually on the side of evil.
Posted by: Carrie Fisher at March 08, 2005 06:18 PM
The Palestine hotel shooting was an accident in the heat of battle. TV cameras resemble the guidance component of several anti-tank weapon systems.
You are just repeating long debunked propaganda.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 08, 2005 06:33 PM
Hey, you little brownshirts at Jawa enjoy yourselves. I'll stay on the side of history and humanity.
Go Greg! Go Femavenger! Go George, and all you others who are not buying this garbage from the jackboot-licking Nazis!
(Hey, could this be one of Jeff Gannon's sites? He just can't stop whoring himself!
Posted by: Ellen at March 08, 2005 06:51 PM
Posted by: Ellen at March 08, 2005 06:57 PM
Sgerna may have information about fallujah or she may not. This does not change the facts that her vehicle was shot in sight of the airport. how do you get this close without proper identification? I'm assuming there are a few checkpoints between where the journalist was picked up and that the intelligence agents would have been VERY familiar with procedures. therefore if someone said stop they would know what to do - or is this just logical thinking?
Another comment to think about is: Dr. Khalid ash-Shaykhli, an official at Iraq’s health ministry, said that the U.S. military used internationally banned weapons during its deadly offensive in the city of Fallujah.
Dr. ash-Shaykhli was assigned by the ministry to assess the health conditions in Fallujah following the November assault there.
Remember - we appointed these people after invading their country. So if our lackeys are saying we used chemical weapons then jeez, maybe we did!
Posted by: Evilhobz at March 08, 2005 07:49 PM
I like Dr Rusty's faulty association argument here. It's a given she interviewed 'bad people', but that's something real journalists do as part of their line of work, unlike the shrill (so-called) 'News' Readers over at Fox who are nothing more than a propaganda apparatus, rationalizing an attempted murder or at best a mistake. But, if it was an honest mistake, why would Fox be taking such great pains to destroy this writer's credibility now? Could it be the silencing failed and now it's time to send in the clowns to spin it away, after all, "she's a liar, and she deserved it." Which sounds remarkedly like a rapist after getting caught, doesn't it.
But you'll notice Dr Rusty offers zero (0) evidence to contradict the reporter's assertions. He simply attacks her work associations and shouts disparaging names. I work (and sometimes even get beers after work) with Republican apologist all day long, by that same logic, I should be a Republican apoligist by now, but as you may have been able to guess by now, that is not the case.
AND even if she were everyting Dr Rusty has outted her to be, would that justify American troops gunning her down in cold blood? If you really think it through, probably not.
(on a peronal side note to the author: all murderers are bad people Rusty. "Raghead Hagi's" or "Brave Young Defenders of Freedom".)
I post this question: "What about DU?"
DU are weapons of mass destruction. I don't think you'll find any denial about the use of DU by the US in Iraq & elsewhere.
Read about the nature of DU and the fun fact that military personnel are just as much affected as everybody else in Iraq exposed to this horror.
In fact, DU use = Gulf War Syndrome. The curent crimminals running the US government can not deny this, but of course they will try.
A Government & Pentagon that is not only willing, but eager to expose our own troops, fellow citizens, brave young freedom fighters for democracy and goodness, to the horrors that await them, while cutting their VA benefits while they're fighting, probably wouldn't have too much problem killing some lying, deserving, bitch- propagandist about to expose them for using banned chemical weapons against civilians in Falluja and else where.
...so, suck it.
Posted by: TruthSeeker at March 08, 2005 07:58 PM
and she says to me that the obvious disinformation that the media spins today is exactly the same as what she lived though. So sucked in America because history is going to judge everyone of yous for the actions of your leaders. You will be known for milleniums to come for the atrocities you have perportrated. We will learn of all you have covered up in the past 50 years.
Im looking foward to being able to tell my children of the wicked evil americans that nearly took over the world but were defeated by the combined people of the world through the forces of the internet
its going to be a glorious day for mankind!
Posted by: carsten at March 08, 2005 10:50 PM
Total media blackout since Nov last year - they flattened a city and you talk about an italian journalist as though SHE is evil and helping the 'resistance' - aren't they entitled to media coverage/ reports from there side???? Does it have to be Fox news flag waving for you to be happy? Things are very wrong with this whole picture. WAKE UP AMERICA! Bush and CO are bleeding the country dry, your 600 Billion in debt to the world, bush is making poor people poorer and the rich richer!
What is going on???
Don't you care about your country at all????
I guess only when it falls down around you will you perhaps get your fat asses off your couch and by then it will be too late.
And acting indignant about the allegations of napalm use etc is laughable when so much has already been proven about the conduct of the US.
Oh well i guess you can just super size that big mac meal, jump in your SUV and carry on being ignorant - i mean hey its not like most of you even know where EYERAQ is right?
Posted by: Oliver G at March 09, 2005 04:10 AM
Perhaps you should spend less time with your petjawa....
Posted by: noonmai at March 09, 2005 04:12 AM
There was no "heat of battle" during the Palestine hotel shooting.
"TV cameras resemble the guidance component of several anti-tank weapon systems."
So the tank crew thought a TV camera from the Palestine hotel was actually an anti-tank weapon system locking in on it? What a crock.
You are just repeating long debunked propaganda.
If anyone here is "just repeating long debunked propaganda", it's you.
Posted by: Paul at March 09, 2005 05:34 AM
A CRIMINAL NATION/SOCIETY. THEY'LL DO ANYTHING TO FURTHER THEIR OWN INTEREST, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST TO THE REST OF THE WORLD AND ITS PEOPLE.
I PRAY THAT I'LL LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THE DEMISE OF THIS BARBAROUS NATION AND ITS RUTHLESS AND QUITE PRIMITIVE PEOPLE. AS FOR MYSELF I WISH THEM WHAT THEY RITCHLY DESERVE, NAMELY THE WROTH OF THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Posted by: FRED at March 09, 2005 06:02 AM
Posted by: Hi Im George the war criminal at March 09, 2005 06:35 AM
Posted by: Laughing Guy at March 09, 2005 11:13 AM
But for those of you who are buying into Signora Sgrena's blatant falsehoods (look at the wire services photos of the car and think, for Heaven's sake!) and expressing your fond wishes for the demise and the demonization of this Republic, just consider: if you get your wish, and America either declines or decides to disengage and retreat into isolation from world affairs, a difficult question arises.
Who's going to defend you when the beheading, Dark Age thugs come for you? Whom will you call upon to solve your petty regional conflicts that are the norm of the last millenium of European history? Who's going to take your side against a revitalized Russia, or China, or an economically-depleted Germany that once again starts looking for lebensraum? The mighty EU? France, with its sterling military prowess? The UN? At bottom you know the truth. You can't do it, and you shelter under our protection while enjoying the luxury (for now) of flinging adolescent criticisms at us, counting on good-natured America to take care of more adult concerns. Maybe, instead of spending so much time on increasingly bizarre attempts to implicate America in yet another act of unthinkable evil, you might consider actually doing something constructive, for yourselves and the world. But you won't, will you? You'll claim that your infantile accusations are "constructive," while privately, in your heart of hearts, you'll know there's no truth in your charges, and that the fact that you can make them without fear of reprisal is proof positive that America is nothing like the monster you enjoy pretending it to be.
Grow up, Europe.
Posted by: JM at March 09, 2005 11:26 AM
Posted by: ???? at March 09, 2005 11:42 AM
"Who's going to defend you when the Dark Age thugs come for you"?
It is not going to be "Cops" JM. Turn off the TV and tune into reality.
Take a good hard squint at the skin tones of some of the "beheaders".
The CIA/Mossad is behind a majority of these assassinations.
As a former Marine Corps NCO and a journalist married into a Moslem family reporting from the middle east, I can assure you that these acts are FORBIDDEN under the Koran.
Think about it - I know it's hard with an IQ equivalent to the temperature of bathwater - but stop and consider what possible gain Moslems could attain from these acts. You come up with a big bad zero. Then ascertain the gain the intelligence agencies reap, re: CIA/Mossad in addition to the Bush administration. Bingo. Max propaganda value. Pesky, truth reporting dead journalists as a bonus. What a deal.
Open your eyes. The "Dark Age thugs" are your neighbors. They are "comin' for you".
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeast Asia News
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 09, 2005 12:10 PM
Europe is asleep, they enjoy flouting their importance while leaving the United States to clean up the messes of the world.
This particular incident is a tragedy and nothing less. While the entirety of the US military simply can't be "good," thus implying that some of our troops are possibly twisted idiots and murderers, most of them are "good." The very idea that the US would target journalists is just moronic daydreaming, what would we have to gain? I know that we would have much to lose, we don't neet to make other, much more immature nations, even more put out with us than they already are.
Europe, Asia, the entire world needs to face it, the United States is the Roman Empire of our day. Now, the Roman Empire did fall, yes, and undoubtedly the US will one day not be the leader of the world, but that day appears to be a long way off.
Never before in history has such a gentle power been displayed. A power wielded with mercy and a basic respect for human life that looks first to build. If the US destroys, it destroys for the greater good. Yes, we look out for our self interests, but let me ask you a question; who doesn't? I digress though.
History will show the US as being a mighty empire. An empire that liberally held out its velvet glove while resorting to the iron fist only when needed. The Soviets had their dialectic, I have this firm belief.
Call me a Nazi, brown-shirt, whatever you like. I trust my country, I trust it to do what's right. In fact, I personally wish that we were in North Korea and Iran right now, maybe Syria too. I wish that we'd either withdraw from the entirely corrupt and worthless UN or firmly shake it by the scruff of the neck and order it to shape up, to become something of value.
The age of the Anglosphere is upon us. Other nations, other people need to realize this or risk becoming as left behind as the foolish Islamofascist dark age murderers are.
Well, I've rambled enough. I encourage some of you anti-Americans to pick up a decent history book, because maybe then you'll see what a gentle giant that the US is.
Posted by: Joshua the American at March 09, 2005 12:51 PM
Perhaps you should take your own advice and perform some historical research "Joshua".
That said, I must add that your cowardice is astonishing, to say the least. Bad enough to spout the propaganda of the criminal regime now in power in the U.S., but to attack the very individuals who now hold your future liberty in their hands? Suicide.
You are a shining example of the successful propaganda machine now presiding over the U.S. media. A true success story. Perhaps you could apply for the recently vacated position of White House reporter "Jeff Gannon". Prostitutes of a feather... eh?
Personally, I have never had a problem with individuals such as yourself - those too petrified to acknowledge the truth and act upon it - but to attempt to justify your ass-kissing, sycophantic, lick-spittle fecal diatribe by envoking an adherence to so-called U.S. patriotism on your part and presenting the current administration that is devoted to your destruction as your savior is remnicent of the German population under Hitler. Indeed, you are "embracing your killers". I can think of no action more despicable.
My advice to you is to simply shut up, get out of the way and let the brave individuals of the world take the casualties in this war on terrorism, the terrorists being the present U.S. administration. As you are a supposed student of history, take a squint at the actions of Joseph P. Kennedy prior to WWII while he was Ambassador to England. You fit that category to a tee: self serving, cowardly, appeaser.
We frankly don't care that you do not have the nuts to stand up against this tyranny. I do not care that you will benefit from our sacrifice. This reality must surely give you a case of the willies.
Do yourself a favor and crawl back under your rock of choice. Be silent, coward.
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeast Asia News
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 09, 2005 01:39 PM
My husband came here from Germany and he says the same things you do. Well, the heat will be off Germany now. We Americans are the new Nazi's. And one day America will have to constantly apologize for crimes our ancestors committed. My husband always got nasty comments for being German when he traveled. Even though his own Grandfather spent time in a camp for political enemies. I guess my own grandkids, when I have them, will go through this.
And Joshua, you talk as though Americans are better than all other persons, that America is always right. Sounds a bit like "Amerika Uber Alles" to me. The Master Race, huh? You know, the Germans didn't do what they did because they wanted to be evil. They believed in lies and thought when they invaded countries they were doing something good. That's what they were told. "Free Poland"! Sure! You have to examine any leaders actions critically. And for your info, I read all the time. I usually read books on history. It sure does repeat itself.
Posted by: Ellen at March 09, 2005 01:43 PM
"One person spells "spincter" as spinkter. The next person spells "Iraq" as "Irak"."
Tell me, how many languages do you perfectly speak and never make mistakes? Do you know that Germans/Austrians or people from the Switzerland spell Iraq as Irak? No, of course not, b´cause your are only a arrogant and ignorant little white girl in a nutshell.
Posted by: Guggi at March 09, 2005 05:12 PM
Paul, I see you have no argument. Look at the controls of a AT-3 Sagger sometime, compare it to a video camera and learn something some time.
Truthseeker, Depleted Uranium is not a weapon of mass destruction. That's a blatant lie. DU is a relatively benign metal no more dangerous than other heavy metals that could be used in tank shells like tungsten. It does not cause "gulf war syndrome" ( if such a thing even exists ). Claims to the contrary come from the whacky left, there is no medical basis for such nutty claims.
Finnegan, the CIA? ROFL. That's hilarious.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 09, 2005 08:57 PM
This belief came from the fact that they had found a radio net that had Iraqi voices directing mortar fire on them from a tall building in the vincinity.
Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 09, 2005 10:02 PM
Once again the left was wrong, democracy spreading in the Middle East and his Muslim terrorist brothers now fighting a losing game. I live near Camp Lejeune and as a retired MSgt I had a chance to talk to young grunts that have recently returned from both to Iraq and Afghanistan. They tell me moral is high, re-enlistments are up or steady and they are pleased to have brought free elections to an oppressed people. They understand the cost that was paid but to a man they will all go back and most will in the coming year.
I guess the left really does like totalitarian regimes like are found in almost every Muslim dominated country.
Posted by: wildbill at March 10, 2005 04:53 AM
Posted by: greg at March 10, 2005 11:48 AM
Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 10, 2005 05:59 PM
Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 01:49 AM
Posted by: Alex at March 11, 2005 05:59 AM
My DD-214 is on file at MCRFAAC, KCMO, it speaks for itself, you studly pukes.
And by the way, it's "Marine Corps", chickenfeathers.
I welcome any young Marines, or older, demented jarheads to "take a shot at me", should you have the guts and lack the intelligence. It would behoove you however to take a squint at my service record in advance.
I would also suggest that when you issue threats, have the balls to sign your full name and give contact info, as I have, and be ready to back them up with lead. As a matter of fact, I will post my telephone number and invite these brave individuals to give me a call. We can then set up a date to take care of business. However, like Chesty, I specify sawed-off 12 guages at 20 paces. Employ a second should you so desire.
I do take comfort in the fact that you brainwashed morons are a species on the brink of extinction in the world. By all means, give me a call and let us advance the eventual and inevitable demise of your mutant species.
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeast Asia News
(510) 797-1481 (US Bureau)
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 11, 2005 11:31 AM
Anyway, after looking at some of your work, I've come to the conclusion that you're a little bit skewed. I wish you the best of luck in straightening yourself out.
To everyone, don't you think it's a bit childish to throw around threats? I know that we, meaning Americans, have free speech, but come on, police yourselves. It's rarely constructive to say, "they'll want a shot at you," or, "sawed-off 12 gauges(sic) at 20 paces."
Anyhow, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do, Sgt. Finnegan. Good luck with your(I wish I had italics for that word) propaganda in the future. I know what I'm talking about, I study. In any event, I need to get to class. Adios. (Hey, look a foreign language! I'm multilingual, sort of, too.)
Posted by: Joshua the American at March 11, 2005 12:50 PM
Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 11, 2005 02:24 PM
If the traitor ever comes back to the states I hope they arrest him and try him for treason. He shames the marine corps just pretending to be one. Any marine would piss on him and his muslim herd of animals. Lower than the lowest. Benedict Arnold is a patriot compared to him.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 03:12 PM
To this Sharon retorted:
"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;
WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."
This was 23 days after 9-11. Israel is blackmailing America because they have evidence that Bush/Rove let 9-11 happen to further their agenda. Wake up America. Don't be sheeple. Israel is an enemy.
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
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Posted by: greg at March 11, 2005 03:41 PM
As far as George Bush being as you say treasonous. You dumb ass. Grow up. No one will listen to your stand on Israel when you come with stupid shit like that.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 11, 2005 05:43 PM
One of his biggest articles is on the soldier that refuses to go to Iraq. He rants and raves on this as proof our Military is turning against their country. One out of 500,000. and our troops are refusing to fight. Yea, right.
His gutter paper hasn't mentioned the 15 men, women and children beheaded by his muslim friends a few days ago. Nor has he mentioned the 29 shot in the back while bound.
There is no human on earth as low as this cowardly traitor. He acts with great bravito giving his name, address, phone etc: The truth is the address, phone # is that of the Southeast Asia News. A muslim indonesian news shit organization. The same info is already given on the internet. Real tough guy. What a piece of shit.
I doubt this shit was ever a marine. He claims he was a sgt, an E-5. Which means he didn't get very far. Excuse me to my true Marine brothers but Finnegan, big fucking deal. I was an O. 3rd Batt 26 marines. 63-67. My sons an O in Iraq right now, killing your asshole, murderous, backward assed buddies. You fucking internet phony. Piss on you and all the little monkeys you live with. No one is as cowardly as one who turns on his country. You putrid punk.
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Posted by: Robin Roberts at March 11, 2005 10:10 PM
Posted by: greg at March 12, 2005 08:30 AM
The only excuse for not greasing all the dagoes is that the troops did in fact shoot to stop the car.
The moral of this story is that the next time troops shoot to stop anyone they should make sure there are no survivors.
Posted by: Hugh Jass at March 12, 2005 09:11 AM
I'm in Amerika. The number: (510) 797-1481 goes right to my desk. Waiting for your call.
Robert S. Finnegan
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 12, 2005 05:12 PM
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2005 03:11 PM
Posted by: greg at March 14, 2005 09:37 AM
And you have fingers but cannot find the balls to dial.
Robert S. Finnegan
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 14, 2005 12:42 PM
When one ASSUMES what's true ahead of time, voluminous evidence to the contrary is ignored, and confirmatory lies are exalted as true. But a-priori "thinking" is the hallmark of the "right" and the fanatical religious biggots that support them.
The right wing media doesn't mention the tens of thousands of innocent civilians (many of whom are children) killed by US troops. This is reality, and the peoples of the world are aware of this reality. Only propagandized Americans don't know of this very tragic situation.
I for one am sick and tired of the evil done by my government around the world. So many democracies have been overthrown around the world only to establish dictators who are friendly to American corporations.
Posted by: Rafael at March 14, 2005 01:15 PM
Or, to put it more concisely, if they wanted you dead, you'd be dead, sawed-off 12 Ga. notwithstanding.
As a former Marine, you know this to be true.
But propagandists such as yourself are relatively easy to ignore since no one but the true believers listen to them anyway.
Have a nice day.
Rafael, the New Your Times published an article just a few days ago. Seems Saddam did indeed have WMDs but got them out of the country just ahead of the US troops. So you'll have to scrap the "Bush Lied" lapel button.
It's so strange that the rest of the world knows about the "tens of thousands of innocent civilians (many of whom are children) killed by US troops." especially the troops who are supposed to have done the killing.
Unless, of course, it's all a vast right-wing conspiracy.
BTW, there's precious little difference between "fanatical religious biggots" on the right and fanatical political bigots on the left.
N.W. Johnson, aka troll
Posted by: Newbern W. Johnson at March 15, 2005 03:09 PM
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Gee, troll (an apt moniker), thanks for the heads-up.
I am in Amerika, stud, land of the depraved and the lost, and all you have to do is let your little pinkies do the walking to confirm this. Direct contact. (510) 797-1481. Call collect, NEWBERN, and talk to SATAN in the first person.
Troll, what a fucking name, it says it all. And I have your johnson in my pants. That's right dipshit. Let's see if you have the nuts you display in this forum. You an me dude. Fuck, you choose the weapons, anything from M-1's to 16's. 1911A? Do that too.
Fuck all that... what about K-Bar's? Want to go that route? Threaten me? Cough it up.
I don't believe you are a Marine. Nobody that knows me in the Corps or has seen my service record has the balls to make a statement like yours, much less initiate contact.
You neocon freak penis-heads are under the illusion that all war protesters may be fit into one category. I am here to dispell you of that misconception. You forgot the war veterans, to your detriment. And I will make this confrontation that you initiated detremental to your well-being, troll. You started it, DO IT.
You have the number stud. The confrontation of your sorry-assed life awaits, maggot. Punch the numbers, puke.
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Castro Valley, CA
Posted by: Robert S. Finnegan at March 16, 2005 06:45 PM
That chicken shit "greyfeathers" is hiding out at:
Posted by: james at March 17, 2005 08:58 AM
Rafael, you are DELUSIONAL.
Posted by: MaxMomFL at March 22, 2005 11:20 PM
MaxMomFL.... sounds like some kind of laxative.
I probably am a devil-serving
sociopath to the neo-con freak zombies who infest this country. Tough shit.
We will eventually destroy you rotting corpses, expunging your parasitic existence from the body of America. Scream in outrage while you can, or better yet, scream to the man himself:
Robert S. Finnegan
Southeast Asia News
(510) 797-1481 (US Bureau)
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