Khomeini Approves of Child Molestation/Beastiality??

I was checking out Aaron's Rantblog where he speculates on Arafat having AIDS, which would explain a whole lot of the mystery surrounding his illness. In that post he links to the Dr. Homa Darabi Foundation which claims to list a number of the odd writings of Ayatollah Khomeini. Look, I knew the guy was a psycopathic ideologue who was the leader of the most dangerous revolution in the latter half of last century--but I had no freaking idea was also a sick pervert. Aaron sites chapter and verse out of Khomeini's book Tahrirolvasyleh where these sayings come from. Can any one confirm Khomeini actually wrote this? Here is some of the more disgusting stuff:

-A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual act such as forplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.

-A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.

-If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure, and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed and as quickly as possible and burned.

UPDATE BELOW

John of Crossroads of Arabia does some work and finds that these quotes might be less than true. Here is what he drops into the comments section:

1. All citations eventually work their way back to www.homa.org, a website run by an Iranian female exile. References to "Vol. 4" are the give-away. There is such a book, but it runs to three volumes only. The reference may/may be factually correct if instead of "Vol. 4", "4th Edition" is meant, but I can't find a 4th edition or reference to a 4th edition online.
Let me just add that the first quote is found at the homa website, but I couldn't find that last two. So, the citations on beastiality seems much less plausible than the first quote--which seems incredible on it's own!
2. No mainstream media, in any country, has covered this as a news story. Reputable sites dealing with comparative religion or Shi'ism have no references to the original citations
The only problem here is the age of the quotes. That is, these are old quotes that would be previous to any news stories that Google would have. On the other hand, you'd think that these quotes would cause considerable intra-Islamic dialogue?
3. There are numerous blogs that discuss it, but none of them can be seen as either authoritative or lacking a tradition of bashing Islam/Muslims (e.g., Christian fundamentalists, Sunni, Hindus, atheists, anti-pedophile sites, as well as sites like Jihadwatch and Command Post that take a generally dim view of Islam).
Interesting. I'd love to hear more.

Posted by: Rusty at 12:36 PM

Comments

1 I thought I saw those debunked at least 10 years ago. I'll do some research.

Posted by: John at November 08, 2004 01:07 PM

2 You've got to be kidding. Who could have a comment on this.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 08, 2004 01:08 PM

3 John, thanks. You can see why I'm skeptical. Actually, the first quote comes from the foundation, the second two are from Aaron's site. So, it's possible one or more may be right--but the animal sex one???

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at November 08, 2004 01:23 PM

4 Actually, I've heard some things from GI's in the region, although not about Khomeni. From what I've heard, pedophelia and be@stiality are not all that taboo - there are even some billboards in Iraq. This is just what I've been told and if I'm wrong, I apologize. Please, somebody tell me I've been lied to.

Posted by: Johnny Walker Red at November 08, 2004 01:23 PM

5 I recall an article in Playboy in 1980 where they printed a long list of these items supposedly from Khomeini. I never heard that they were debunked, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this were urban legend.

Posted by: Boyd at November 08, 2004 01:38 PM

6 Back...

After going through 33 pages of Google, I come to the following conclusions:

1. All citations eventually work their way back to www.homa.org, a website run by an Iranian female exile. References to "Vol. 4" are the give-away. There is such a book, but it runs to three volumes only. The reference may/may be factually correct if instead of "Vol. 4", "4th Edition" is meant, but I can't find a 4th edition or reference to a 4th edition online.

2. No mainstream media, in any country, has covered this as a news story. Reputable sites dealing with comparative religion or Shi'ism have no references to the original citations

3. There are numerous blogs that discuss it, but none of them can be seen as either authoritative or lacking a tradition of bashing Islam/Muslims (e.g., Christian fundamentalists, Sunni, Hindus, atheists, anti-pedophile sites, as well as sites like Jihadwatch and Command Post that take a generally dim view of Islam).

I do not say that these sites are motivated out of ill will, but I don't see anything that resembles serious research into it. It seems more like a "too good to check" type of story.

My conclusion, so far, is that the document in question is either non-existent, or grossly exaggerated. But I'll keep looking....

Posted by: John at November 08, 2004 02:12 PM

7 Rusty-
I suggest you check with Robert Spencer over at jihadwatch. I have seen this sort of stuff tossed around over there. Some of it has a ring of truth. Supposedly the prophet himself had a nine year old bride, and there is some written history to document this marriage and its consummation.

The animals part sound about much. Are you sure this is not some new anti-republican/red state propaganda that has been confused with Arabs?

Of course then this may all just add credence why the camel is called the ship of the desert - because its Arab seamen.

Posted by: Mr. K at November 08, 2004 03:12 PM

8 As far as I recall I have never cited the statements at Dr. Homa Darabi's website as authentic statements by Khomeini. I am not sure that they aren't, but I don't know for sure that they are. People posting to Jihad Watch may have made reference to them; I don't know.

It is a matter of fact that Khomeini married a 10-year-old when he was 28, in imitation of Muhammad (who married a 9-year-old when he was 51, according to Islamic sources that are generally considered reliable by Muslims). Khomeini also advised fathers to marry off their daughters before they reached puberty.

I just checked Dr. Homa's site and find this reference: "Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom." I don't know if it has been changed since the above assertion that it said "volume 4" was posted.

I'll see if I can find out more about these quotes.

Cordially,
Robert Spencer




Posted by: Robert Spencer at November 08, 2004 03:29 PM

9 Holy Shit! That was fast...it reminded me of another joke...what is the difference between Mick Jagger and a Scotsman? Jagger says, hey you, get off of my cloud, and a Scotsman says, hey, McCloud, get offa my ewe!

Anyway, jihadwatch is a good source for info on Islam...there are many links to other sites.

Posted by: Mr. K at November 08, 2004 03:40 PM

10 Rusty....this is sensationalist bilge, even for you. But you didn't get the response you wanted, did you, a plethora of postings cursing Islamism. What's the point of such an inflammatory piece? Given that your country is the biggest producer of pornography, it's a bit like calling the kettle black. This tabloid journalism does nothing to elevate the real issues. Shame

Posted by: Rusty at November 09, 2004 04:06 AM

11 It may be extreme, what about this?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=13230

Posted by: Mr. K at November 09, 2004 06:00 AM

12 The Homa site was my source, however, I have a post on 31 March entitled Mullahs for Mule Nookie which has links to actual sources from the Arab press about Arab sex with donkeys and camels, one even from arabnews.com!

Posted by: Aaron's Rantblog at November 09, 2004 08:53 AM

13 ok, I'll check it out.

Posted by: Rusty at November 09, 2004 08:55 AM

14 Now I know the purpose of the Bekka.

Posted by: greyrooster at November 09, 2004 09:05 AM

15 The man is a paedophile himself:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/mollah.JPG

Posted by: Pyro-Osteon at November 16, 2004 11:23 AM

16 Well i am aware of the hatred you ppl keep against Islam and its Followers and to satisfy your souls you never intend to seek the facts because you accept everyting you hear and read and due to envy you keep and your subconscious mind assume them to be true
i have seen hundreds of anti ISlamic sites where ppl like you have posted those non-existent traditions .. i wonder if Ayatullah Khomeni even wrote such things as the book you mentioned Tahir-ul-Wasila consist on 2 volumes rather Four. And funny to say even your renowned respected writers mentioned those slanders in their works.
I believe that Human has given the wisdom and their nature force them to use their intelligence so they may find the truth so they can figure out the purpose of their existence. But human got indugled in the wars in the name of creed inn the name of freedom in the name of their indviduality and even if there isnt any God there must be a single seed from where we all rised up there must be one man who would be the father of all the nations, so why we go for differences? why we tell lies about each other? why we make allegations ? make judgments without knowing the truth? why we never try? why we dont consume our powers the strength we have been given by the nature for the betterment of mankind?doesnt our conscience tell us to good doesnt it says that we should not hurt a man by our hand or by the tongue?

Posted by: MaiSam at November 22, 2004 03:39 AM

17 i agree with you 100% man. Islamic cause isnt to take over the world or molest kids or have sex with animals;its to live at peace with everyone. Please please please think about what you hear or read on the internet or otherwise and you will know the truth too...

Posted by: tima at December 07, 2004 08:30 PM

18 Yes, Islam is a religion of peace when they are not:

- flying aircraft into buildings

- bombing Aussies in Bali

- bombing trains in Madrid

- killing shoolchildren in Beslan

- sending their children on suicide bombing missions to kill Jews

- Beheading people in Iraq

- Rioting and killing Christians in Nigeria

- Burning Christian Churches in Kosovo

- Murdering Film directors in Holland

- Threatening Dutch politicians with murder

- Gang raping women in the suburbs of France

- constantly shouting 'death to America, death to Israel'

- suicide bombing compounds in Saudi Arabia

- bombing synagogues in Turkey

NOPE. NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS, SOUNDS LIKE A REAL PLEASANT, PEACE LOVING RELIGION TO ME.

etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum

Posted by: Qing Lian at December 23, 2004 01:13 PM

19 no response to Qing Lian, from tima........geez i wonder why. maybe he took in what Qing Lian had to say and actually gave it some ratioanl thought and came across the relevation.........Islam IS NOT a religion of peace........and never will be unless Muslims don't take the Quran literally. READ IT.....i'm sure you already have so you know what im talking about.

Posted by: earthling at December 24, 2004 01:49 AM

20 sorry....he should be they

Posted by: earthling at December 24, 2004 01:53 AM

21 It is indeed well know that Khomeini had robbed Home Darabi's breasts and raped her in her childhood. Homa's mother was a temporary wife of Khomeini and would leave her for daycare with him. It was in those days that apparently Khoum got lucky to have some ream fun. Homa's mother though, would leave her with Khomeini because she was working a prostitute on the street so she had no one to leave her daughter with. See how nice the story goes on? I can just continue and make it a full book. So, if these statement are true, then perhaps what Home Darabi writes is true too!!!

Posted by: Shirali at January 06, 2005 03:26 PM

22 It is indeed well know that Khomeini had robbed Home Darabi's breasts and raped her in her childhood. Homa's mother was a temporary wife of Khomeini and would leave her for daycare with him. It was in those days that apparently Khomeini got lucky to have some real fun with the little Homa who was just getting perky breasts. Khomeini slept with Homa three times a day and he had no more interest in his own wife because Homa was so fresh. Homa's mother would leave her with Khomeini because she was working a prostitute on the street so she had no one to leave her daughter with. See how nice the story goes on? I can just continue and make it a full book. So, if these statements are true, then perhaps what Home Darabi writes is true too!!!

Posted by: Shirali at January 06, 2005 03:31 PM

23 Violent jihad or holy war against unbelievers. Murder, stealing, torture, slavery and rape against unbelievers is acceptable if couched in terms of jihad.

Christians and Jews allowed to live in Muslim dominated lands provided they pay a special tax and accept their status as second class citizens. The status of polythiests is tenuous at best, they will eventually be eliminated either by persecution or death.

My dear brother, please read Chronicles of Islamic Wisdom.

Here are a few excerpts from the book of one of Islam s' supreme
spiritual leader: Ayatollah Khomeini: "A man can have sexual
pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not
penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and
damages the child then he should be responsible for her
subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as
one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to
marry the girls sister" - From Khomeini's
book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran,
1990.

"A man can have sex with animals such as sheep?s, cows, camels
and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his
orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own
village, however selling the meat to the next door village
should be fine". From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth
volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990
"If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel,
their urine and their excrements become impure, and even their
milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed
and as quickly as possible and burned." The little green book,
Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini, Political, Phylosophica, Social
and Religious with a special introduction by Clive Irving, ISBN
number 0-553-14032-9, page 47"It is better for a girl to marry
in such a time when she would begin menstruation at her
husband's house rather than her father's home. Any father
marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in
heaven" - From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth
volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 REMEMBER IRAN CONTRA?
Eleven things are impure: urine, excrement, sperm...non-Moslem men and women...and the sweat of an excrement-eating camel.Ayatollah Khomeini

I'm so scared i have a wart on my penis. Is it a penis sucking muslim ?
93% muslim males have anal and/or genital warts. ALLAH!! Homosexuality is widely practised in Islamic countries. To please the homosexuals,Muhammad (the evil perverted prophet) promised his followers pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the male followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls. (72 Virgins, 28 young boys and the virility of 100 men...) dead Warrios of Allah (suicide bombers and the like) believe that today.

The most important information to know about Muslims,is that they will smile to your face and cut your throat from the back. Muslims are EVIL, period!!!

Like Muhammad, Ayatollah Khomeini and most other Islamic clerks, Iranian Mullahs and American Catholic Priests, are perverted mentally and sexualy.(paedophiles)

Posted by: wrs at January 24, 2005 12:28 PM

24 This comments related to Khomeini are true. This book is real. Homa Darabi is not kidding around.

This book was readily available at the beginning of the revolution, but the clerics have realized that they cannot show these to the public. Since then the book has been censored and the quotes regarding pedophilia, rape, have been taken out. Take it from an Iranian,
IT IS ALL TRUE

Posted by: gooz brrok at February 15, 2005 12:47 AM

25 hello please send me pakistan urdu languages urdu sexy stories i'm waiting for your reply please send me quickly as so fast as you do so please

Posted by: Fahad at March 12, 2005 03:55 AM

26 I'm really shaken and disgusted about the Islamic faith.When you see whats in the real sense.All muslims should be ashamed of this!

Posted by: Julian at March 12, 2005 09:26 PM

27 I would be wary of information about Iran or Khomeini. Many lies have been told about Iran in the west.

One of these is the famous story about Iranian children being sent over minefields with plastic keys. That story is false. (How I know this: I served in Iran's armed forces during the war, and no veteran I've spoke to - or anybody else I knew in Iran, for that matter - had EVER heard of such a thing.)

When you are presented information about someone, where an ideological war is concerned, it is useful to ask:

1) How do you know this?

2) What familiarity do you have with the subject?

3) Why should I believe you?

4) What does the other side have to say?

Posted by: Jahan at March 12, 2005 09:53 PM

28 i want sex all the time

Posted by: saeed at April 11, 2005 02:01 AM

29 yeah well the claims r just ridiculous. this man is foremost scholar within islam, these quotes are nothing but fabrications. besides, it's the church that's grappling with sex abuse and child molestation

Posted by: shujaat at April 17, 2005 02:23 PM

30
Muslims should not try to hide behind the'Islam is a religion of peace' argument.They should come out and say boldly that it is morons like the ones posting on this page that drive them to acts of terror like suicide bombings and I don't blame them for it.
Ignorant, prejudiced, racist pigs like most of the people who have posted here aided by dodgy propaganda material from exiles who have their axe to grind prove the case of the terrorist.

Posted by: KKK at April 21, 2005 11:40 PM

31 I hate to break it to you, but yes, the book does exist. And for those of you that keep screaming about the non-existent FOURTH volume, of course there is no FOURTH volume of Khomeini's text. Good Dr. Homa Darabi never claimed there was. There is, however, a fourth EDITION. That simply means a fourth PRINTING of a book with corrections and annotations, not a fourth volume of a series of texts.

Many people who are not in publishing do not know the difference between a volume and an edition. It's a simple mistake to make.

Khomeini routinely advised Muslim followers to marry young children, even those who had not reached puberty, and himself married a small child of only ten years of age.

Posted by: armytramp at May 02, 2005 04:43 AM

32 While the sex stories about the middle easterners is indeed interesting it is much more interesting to learn about their increasingly heavy involvement in the American collections industry. They are making untold billions of dollars collecting debts for their banks and credit card companies.

The result is untold numbers of horror stories related by the abused.

Posted by: creditwrench at May 22, 2005 04:20 PM

33 Let's not forget other great moments in peacful Islamic History.....

Armenian Genocide: You Jewish folk thought you were special didn't you? Naa, Hitler learned a thing or two from this,

Turkish opression of Greeks

Kurd Slaughter

Posted by: Jason at June 05, 2005 10:44 PM

34 Let's not forget other great moments in peaceful Islamic History.....

Armenian Genocide: You Jewish folk thought you were special didn't you? Naa, Hitler learned a thing or two from this,

Turkish opression of Greeks

Kurd Slaughter

Posted by: Jason at June 05, 2005 10:45 PM

35 send me urdu sexy story on my e mail add

Posted by: ahmed at June 11, 2005 03:53 AM

36 hi

Posted by: ali at July 11, 2005 05:39 PM

37 Paedophilia??? Very rare in Iran, but somewhat existence. No religious cleric provides right to molest children, at least not publically. Your theory is truly unfounded. Urban Legend

Posted by: Urban Legend at August 10, 2005 03:02 PM

38 ya there's is no 4th volume or 4th edition. The website is run by an iranian female exile. Exiles are the ones who fled the country when Khomeni took over because they were supporters of a dictatorship that was toppled by Khomeni. Many lies have been made by them against the Khomeni and his allies after leaving the country. Learn the truth, what kind of a mentally challenged person would say this?

Posted by: slkdkl at October 24, 2005 08:49 PM






Processing 0.01, elapsed 0.0096 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0054 seconds, 46 records returned.
Page size 31 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.