Two Italian Women Hostages Murdered, UPDATED--make that 'beheaded'

UPDATE 9/23: The Italian government remains skeptical over the claims (story here). I am more confident of the claims. The original abduction was on Sept. 7th. Three days later, a message was left by a group called "Ansar al-Zawahiri", threatened to behead the hostages within 24 hrs and that their bodies would never be found. Today, Reuters reports that Ansar al-Zawahiri will soon release a video of Simona Pari and Simona Torretta being beheaded. I pray that I'm wrong, but suspect that I am not. The religion of irony has struck again.

A group calling itself the Jihad Organisation in Iraq have claimed to have murdered Simona Pari and Simona Torretta (pictured right, click to enlarge). The two Italian women were in Iraq as aid workers helping Iraqi children. They worked for A Bridge to Baghdad an organization that was in Iraq before the war, which attempted to end UN sanctions. May God speed you to his rest, and may his wrath rain down on those who murdered you. According to Reuters the group said:

We in the Jihad Organisation in Iraq announce that God's verdict has been passed on the two Italian prisoners by slaughtering, after the Italian government headed by the vile (Prime Minister Silvio) Berlusconi did not listen to our one condition to withdraw from Iraq," the statement said.

"We warn the Italian government that we will continue to strike, and to strike every foreigner living in Iraq," said the statement, dated September 22.

My previous post and background information is here. As I said in that post "Next thing you know they will be grabbing Mother Theresa's corpse and threatening to behead it."

UPDATE 9/23: Via Chad Evans I found the full message from the al-Jihad Organization in Iraq, as translated by Evan F. Kohlman reads:

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful:

Praise be to Allah, Lord of this world and the next, and may His peace be upon the leader of his mujahideen. We in the Jihad Organization in Iraq announce that Allah’s verdict has been executed on the two Italian prisoners by slaughtering them, after the Italian government headed by the evil Berlusconi ignored our sole condition to withdraw from Iraq. We in the Jihad Organization warn the Italian government that we will continue to strike, and to strike every foreigner living in Iraq. We will not relent and we will not yield until we dig your graves in every inch of the land of Islam.

We will make Iraq a cemetery for you and all those who let themselves be seduced into committing aggression against the Muslims. Those who have done wrong will meet their fate.

UPDATE II 9/23: A second group has claimed responsibility for their deaths. Again, translation via Evan F. Kohlman:
“In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful…”“In response to the savage and bloody massacres that Italian forces have carried out against the Iraqi nation in the city of Al-Nasiriya; In response to the Zionist crusader forces in Iraq who have raped Muslims, mocked them, and danced around them in Iraqi prisons; In response to the support of the Italian government for the Zionist forces who kill the Muslims in Palestine; In response to the support of the Italian and Zionist governments for the Russian forces who hold Muslims hostage in Chechen prisons; In response to the insult from the Italians who made Islam sound cold and provocative when they suggested that Western civilization developed from that of Islam; In response to the politics of provocation, arrogance, conceit, and the way that the Italians have mocked the mujahideen threats to them on the Internet; In response to the refusal of the Italian government to accede to our demands: releasing the
Muslim prisoners in Iraq, specifying a timetable to withdraw from Iraq, assisting in the release of Muslim prisoners in Chechen prisons, and assisting in the release of all Arab detainees held in the prisons of the Zionist allies, at the behest of the Zionists in their war on Islam:”

“Two criminal Italian agents of the Italian intelligence services—Simona Pari and Simona Toretta—have been beheaded without pity or mercy. Allah willing, we will soon publish a videotape of the beheading of the Italian hostages…”

“…Also, the Ansar al-Zawahiri Organization pledges a direct military response to the assassination of the courageous Jordanian mujahid Abu Anas al-Shami in less than 24 hours. We swear by the mighty Allah, we swear by the mighty Allah, we swear by the mighty Allah, that the assassination of Abu Anas al-Shami will not fade without a requisite punishment. And the military response will target the Zionist crusader forces in less than 24 hours.”

“Additionally, we threaten the government of Denmark with the commencement of military strikes with utmost fatal ferocity if it does not declare a timetable for its withdrawal from Iraq. The government of Denmark should benefit from the Italian lesson, and the Russian lesson, and the British lesson, and the American lesson, because we will not show mercy to any Danish citizen who falls into our hands unless the Danish nation submit to our demands.” “And we appeal to the Tawheed wal-Jihad Movement not to spare the British hostage, and not to show him any mercy or pity, even if all the crusader nations around the world submit to their demands.”

Today has been a very bad day.
Hat tip: Jon

PS-If anyone has a tip, please e-mail me. Too many comments for me to properly read them all.

Posted by: Rusty at 08:13 PM

Comments

1 Do we know their religion? I'm assuming they're Catholic.

Most Italians are Catholic, as am I, but let's not forget that when the US decided to go into Iraq to liberate millions of oppressed people, the Pope called George Bush -- not Saddam Hussein -- to talk him out of action that might kill innocent people.

If the Vatican says nothing now, it deserves to disappear.

Posted by: Leopold Stotch at September 22, 2004 08:41 PM

2 hey just wondering about the last 2 videos: obviously i am horrified, but: i notice some sounds towards the end of the decapitations which sound like pig/beast noises dubbed in. i have a good ear and i'm pretty sure the noises i mentioned are not authentic. so my question: did the terrorists dub it in, or did it happen somewhere else along the chain? its a bit weird, but i'm wondering if it is some sort of sick commentary or joke on the radicals' part, maybe equating the infidel with pigs or something? listen closely, i don't think the audio is all natural.
i'm sure i'll get alot of people thinking i'm callous/uncaring or whatever, but really i'm just a bit scientific by nature, and i am truly wondering if anyone else noticed this.

Posted by: jack at September 22, 2004 11:40 PM

3 if you have gone to the northeast intelligence network and scrolled to all the beheading videos and click on the nepal video your question will be answered. It was not dubbed in that is the sound of air and blood in the wind pipe

Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 11:54 PM

4 Italian government sources urged "utmost caution" over an Internet statement saying two female Italian aid workers kidnapped in Iraq had been killed, as there was no evidence to confirm the report.

Posted by: Dee at September 23, 2004 04:19 AM

5 After viewing the last two beheadings, I cried. I couldn't help but wonder if the families of the victims viewed. My heart wrenches to think how they must feel to know what kind of horrifying, brutal end their loved one endured...all for this country and what America stands for. It made me thank God for my family and my heritage. People can blame President Bush for the deaths in this war all they want. But as far as I'm concerned, the only mistake made by Bush since we've gone to war, is that we underestimated these ANIMALS we're up against. We expected a little human descency, and it's just not there. I feel like if Bush isn't re-elected, and we don't continue our fight for freedom, then these people have paid the HIGHEST price imaginable, and unimaginable... in vain. That would be un-American. My heart goes out to all of the families, (in U.S.A. and every other country on this planet), who have lost loved ones who were fighting the good fight. God Bless America. And ALL of God's children.

Posted by: ubetterunlikehell at September 23, 2004 04:36 AM

6 Unbelievable again. The groundswell of emotions that these acts have begun will ultimately be the terrorists undoing. If anything we should see an utter condemnation of these people, and their actions by the entire world. If I was committed to rooting out all the evil terrorists before all this beheading of innocent people... I am even more steadfast in my support today of the Busch administration, Tony Blair, and all the good people who are fighting this fight. God is watching and seeing the evil. Those who will be judged will be judged by God. I am just overwhelmed. I would support almost any actions taken by our troops to find and destroy this evil.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 07:16 AM

7 I can't believe the scale of this f**k up by Bush, Blair and their co-horts. They have blood on their hands.

As for God, well, it's apparent there isn't one or if there is then he certainly hasn't taken any sides. Maybe he is hanginging his head in shame at both sides us of Right and Wrong, both twisted out or proportion. I'll be glad when this world is religion free and we can all get back to the realisation that there is only this life and it should be treated with the utmost respect and care

Posted by: MB at September 23, 2004 08:10 AM

8 MB,
Brilliant. Yeah, those anti-religion governments sure weren't oppressive or anything like that. I mean, as long as you don't include---er, well--everyone of them, then you're right on. Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, North Korea, etc.....

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 23, 2004 08:27 AM

9 MB,
Yeah, the atheists have a great track record too (see Communism From Marx to International ANSWER).

Listen to John Lennon's Imagine backwards and it says, "you must be high to buy this garbage, coo coo ca choo"

Good post, Rusty

Posted by: Gordon at September 23, 2004 08:27 AM

10 Perhaps I should have left God out of my comment. Somehow there is a comfort to me though that God is real. I don't want to talk for hours about that though. The subject at hand is not the hand of God, it is terrorism, terrorists, cruelty, hate, Murder, Torture, Slaughter, Beheading innocent people, I guess we could talk for hours about that too. Thanks by the way to you who run this site. It is nice to be able to voice my oppinion somewhere where there are people of like mind.... That is an open mind!!
Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 08:59 AM

11 Hmmm... Atheism does not necessarily mean "anti-religion".

I am Atheist but I don't want to do anything to stop other people believing in whatever clap-trap they want to believe in.

Just keep it out of my face, out of my politics and out of my life and all will be fine between us.

Posted by: Red Devil at September 23, 2004 09:00 AM

12 Religion is not the problem here. These terrorists USE their religion like they use their swords, Rocket launchers, Grenades. Allah, God, or whoever you believe in would NEVER condone these attrocities.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:03 AM

13 Is it possible that video of the beheadings of women will cause more of an outrage than the beheadings of men? I found all of them disgusting, of course, but this news feels worse somehow.

Posted by: Joe R. the Unabrewer at September 23, 2004 09:06 AM

14 It sure is nice to live in a country where you can have those beliefs and not be ridiculed for it. There are no Sunni's, Shiites, or anyone else banging down your door, and beheading you for your Atheism.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:08 AM

15 Women bare the children of the world. Is it worse to have this happen to a woman?? Will it cause even more outrage?? The answer is a resounding YES. It all must be ended. There is no place in humanity for any of this to be happening. They are digging their own graves.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:35 AM

16 These darlings think that 72 virgins await them in heaven. They might be right; however, nobody said they where women or even human. In my opinion these muslim vermin might find 72 virgin camels waiting for them, of course, they might just like that. Islam isn't a good religion the muslim faith isn't a religion of peace anymore than a serial killer is a man/woman of peace. Its time to deport these vermin who hold up signs saying "islam will dominate the world." in places like London England (which there is a picture of that on the net I saw and if need be i could find it again) throw these pieces of vermin back into that kitty litter box the middle east. Then nuke the place into the largest glass parking lot ever! NO MERCY!

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 09:39 AM

17 I think we are wasting our energy in looking at the religion as a whole. We should be dealing with this dickheads the same way the FBI deals with all the Militia movement, and drug cartels. You Knock on their doors and tell them you are watching, you take over the assests of those who fund them and attack them when they are in plan view.
We are right now only doing the last one. Simple stuff ... but why dont we do it ... because we might piss off some crown princes and princess's in the Gulf ... SO FUCKING WHAT!

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 09:47 AM

18 Andre:
I am so angry at this point I could almost help you carry that burden of the destruction of an entire region. Innocents would be terminated as well in an ETHNIC cleansing. Although I am angry however I would not wipe out an entire region for the actions of a few insane men. That kind of action would open an entire other "can of worms". Our anger does point us towards that kind of conclusion though doesn't it? I pray that my anger never makes me one of THEM. I am afraid some of the rhetoric sometimes sounds like it though.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:48 AM

19 Comments from the likes of Andre et al are tiresome. If you have nothing of value to add, then find another site to occupy your time with. Morons

Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 09:52 AM

20 James:

AGREED

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:53 AM

21 this islamic militants are chickenshit scum.it takes 4 or 5 of them standing over a helpless,tied up, weeping man who cant fight back.they hold him down and hack off his head,these assholes are chickenshit cowards who cant fight on thier own.Why dont they fight 1 on 1?they cant,they are such cowards,they will get whats coming,zarqawi must be caught and tortured,then watch him cry.scum!!

Posted by: tim jones at September 23, 2004 10:02 AM

22 Apparently they are standing over women now and doing the same thing.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 10:18 AM

23 Chris:

When making an omelet one has to break a few eggs.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 10:30 AM

24 James:

Do you think that anything less will make them stop? These vermin don't understand civil behavior anymore than a charging grizzly bear understands that you are not dinner.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 10:32 AM

25 Salamander:

You think the FBI really cares? They are a politicized group that only cares about their face in the public. They wouldn't dare make a good crackdown on Islamics in this country since they'd be accussed of racial profiling. It's much too easy for them to play pin the terrorist label on a bunch of rednecks in bedsheets now isn't it?

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 10:37 AM

26 Andre, you can not cast aspersions on an entire race or an entire religion. For example not all Americans are red necks, not all Irish are members of the IRA. Getting the drift? The terrorists are Muslims but not all Muslims are terrorists.

Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 10:49 AM

27 Andre:
Are they saying the same thing in Iraq about 2 innocent Italian women?? Were they thinking that as they slid a knife up to the throats of women and men slicing thier heads off?? I just do not want to be like them in any way. There must be some answer better than making the entire region into a glass parking lot.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 10:51 AM

28 James:

I guess I like the phrase, "Kill 'em all and let God sort them out." well, in this case its allah, i'm not one to judge good from bad and its not worth trying to sort the good from the bad in this case. Any con-artist can look you in the face and con you out of everything you are worth while making you feel like a million bucks. But this situation is they'll smile at you one minute and the next they'll cut your head off. Is it worth the risk, answer while visioning your head being sawed off. That way, we get a real reflective answer.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 10:55 AM

29 Chris:

Right now i'm so irratated I don't think I could handle it if I actually see the video pop up. As far as being like them, thats like trying to negotate to a bully not to bully you, they're going to laugh at you, get their friends into the deal and all that makes you is a victim or a doormat.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 11:03 AM

30 Ok Andre:
I am understanding your feelings completely. I am not going to fight about this. Disgusted by these people I certainly am. One must learn from history though. Men of this nature have throughout time been captured, found out, hunted down etc... They do not continue this behavior forever whithout paying some kind of consequence. I just cannot believe that every man, woman, and child in that expansive region is inherently evil. I believe in mankind. I know in my heart that the right thing will happen. Focus your energy on those who are actually responsible for these grisly and awful attrocities. Keep the heat on THEM. If one bee is attacking, and stinging you don't go and knock the whole nest down to get back at that one bee. You get my meaning?? I do not want to be stung thousands of times.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 11:46 AM

31 Andre ... learn to analyse what you are reading:

"...the same way the FBI deals with ...".

the point of that statement was to point out the METHODOLOGY for going about this.

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 11:48 AM

32 Salamander:

Read mine, they don't want to be called racial profiliers by going after Islamists now don't they? It's way to easy for them to go after rednecks in suspenders sporting shotguns or rednecks in bedsheets lighting crosses in some backwoods area than it is to go after some group a batch of blathering boobs would call "oppressed people of color." or whatever the current diatrab is for them. If its neck is red you may proceed if its brown stand down seems to be the FBI motto when it comes to anything that could be construed as racial profiling. Sure, they could use the same methods but those with big hearts and no brains would stand up on their hind legs and denounce it as "racial profiling" and "racism."

At least that is how I see it.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 11:55 AM

33 While I am thinking about this. Do you people think these vermin doing the beheading are actually working as "security" for the foriegn nationals? Thus the masks they are using to hide themselves. To me it seems that they have had too easy of a time getting their hands on these people and My suspicsions are is they are actually working on the inside by day and by night wearing masks and beheading people. Just my oppinon on this. Anyone care to lance with me on this one?

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 11:59 AM

34 Andre,
Perhaps that is part of the reason, but they actually have borrowed the practice from Hamas. The reason they wrap themselves is because in Islam the corpse of the dead must be wrapped like that (think of Jesus being wrapped after his death). Thus, the shahids, or Slaves to Allah, are signifying that they are already dead and that their bodies are prepared for the imminent death they expect. As they themselves say, "We love death more than life, while you love life more than death." Indeed. Lachaim!

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 23, 2004 12:13 PM

35 Its called a Kefen (death shroud) ... its actually a poplin white cloth that his hand loomed in that part of the world. Its the easiest way the isrealies can identify a suicide bomber if the bomber doesnt conceel the shroud too good.

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 12:26 PM

36 aljazeera is saying that the italian hostages are probably still alive. Well, a small glimmer of hope but there rational for them still being alive is dubous at best. They claim that the hostage takers have nothing to gain by killing two females from an NGO who have been helping iraqis. Well, my logic says, when Rhodesia became Zimbabwe, the so-called "liberation army" attacked and killed Catholic priests and other do-gooders, not because the do-gooders did anything against them but just because "they where easy targets." Same logic holds ground here.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 01:08 PM

37 Easy targets is right. What is also right is that killing 2 women that ar part of the NGO would serve no purpose..... Then again when have these people actually had a purpose.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 02:01 PM

38 Chris, don't know the answer to that, perhaps if these beheaders got caught they should be treated like a rabid animal, sent to a humane society shelter and delt with and the cadaver checked for the presense of rabies.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 02:16 PM

39 Andre and Chris,
We need to see al Jazeera for what it is: the propaganda arm for the Islamists and Jihadis who are after a world-wide Islamic state. The reason, possibly, that they deny the deaths is because they understand that this would be a PR no-no to behead women. While some section of the Islamic world might condone murdering men, women are no-no to most. Just speculation.

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 23, 2004 02:50 PM

40 Rusty:

Actually, they have no qualms about killing their own women, so one of ours they should have no problem in doing so either. I read for example IRAN executed a 16 year old girl this past month (death by hanging) just for having a "sharp tongue." Matter of fact, just go onto yahoo.com and type +"16 year old" +"hanging" search for that and you will see the story.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 02:54 PM

41 Thanks Rusty:
You are right. They may have gotten wind of the outrage this might cause them. They may be backing out of it. Trying to find a way to deny that it happenned..... Even if it did happen. That television station is an arm of the movement over there... A little like Dan Rather is an arm of the liberal party.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 03:07 PM

42 Andre,

We execute our mentally retarded also ... what are we o do invade every country how executes someone after a trial(you dont have to like their legal system). Sometimes there is a line drawn. Dont even compare that to this situation, its different hanging someone and its a little different putting your foot to someone's head and sawing through their throat.

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 03:07 PM

43 oops.... That might have been a little uncalled for.....

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 03:10 PM

44 Salamander:

Read what I wrote:

"Actually, they have no qualms about killing their own women, so one of ours they should have no problem in doing so either."

Now which part didn't you understand the qualms or the killing their own women?

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 03:13 PM

45 Sorry did I hurt some feelings ... okay: Mantally challanged people.

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 03:18 PM

46 No Salamander you did not hurt my feelings. I was referring to my own tasteless remark about Dan Rather....It has been a long day....

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 03:32 PM

47 In response to Andre's comment. If the terrorists in fact have 72 virgins awaiting them in heaven when they die, I am quite certain that they will rape and kill them in the same manner they treat the women Iraq currently.

Posted by: Brigette at September 23, 2004 03:35 PM

48 Bravo Brigette!!!!

Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 03:40 PM

49 Brigette:

If i'm not mistaken they never made mention that the virgins would be women and who said they will end up in heaven anyhow? They might just find themselves in hell with 72 virgin male camels, also rabidly horny ones too. Imagine a hell like that set aside for all these lovely allah akbar types, a very fitting eternity for them might I add.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 03:45 PM

50 None taken Chris ... I know the long day part.

I agree with the thought that IF the 2 women have not been murdered the terrorists MAY shy away from carring out their threats. Though having lived in the middle east I can tell you saddly ... that would not stop them. People like these do not heed anyone or anything. Want a good example the palastinian terrorist population ... they love hitting those buses.

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 04:38 PM

51 Small note for you Andre:

Turks and Iranians are not Arabs ... They dispise arabs because they had them under their hegemony for centuries. Arabs are useless camel jockies who dont know how to fight as a standing army ... i.e. every time they have had their asses handed to them in battle because THEY RUN LIKE RATS!

Posted by: Salamander at September 23, 2004 04:41 PM

52 The In the Bullpen link Rusty put on the main page says there will be global backlash against the Arab world if video is released of these two women's beheading. Anyone aware of statements indicting they plan on releasing video?

Posted by: DB at September 23, 2004 05:47 PM

53 DB

I doubt there would be a backlash throughout the world as the world by in large laughed about what is going on in such countries as Zimbabwe. Most of the third world countries looked the other way at what is going on there, but in the first world countries I think they'll be a lot of voices like my own when I started posting in this thread.

Right now i'm steaming up again over this.

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 08:28 PM

54 How much do you want to bet that these Allah loving, morally superior Barbarians raped them around the clock before they beheaded them. Praise Allah!

Posted by: Dave at September 23, 2004 10:57 PM

55 Dave:

Your more than likely right, these muslims who are of so much mercy and peace normally do that. Again I point to the story of the 16 year old iranian girl who was hanged. It pretty much well says that the police will rape females as well who go to them after being raped. Praise Allah and pass the pork!

Posted by: Andre at September 23, 2004 11:09 PM

56 Another day has arrived. More threats, more violence, more video of beheadings. It is simply unbelievable. It is obvious that we will be seeing video of two innocent young women being brutally murdered. After reading all the comments from last night here on this board I see nothing has changed. My fears are about to be realized again. One thing though..... This war is being fought in the media, and on the internet. This beheading of two women who are absolutely innocent of ANY wrongdoing towards Iraq, or the Muslim religion will reach more people throughout the world than any other act EVER. I still believe there will be a backlash against them. I will lead the charge, and do everything in my power to help the backlash grow into a huge storm. I hope you will all join me.

Chris

Posted by: Chris at September 24, 2004 06:26 AM

57 FUNNY,HOW THE COWARDS DONT WANT TO SHOW THE WOMEN .MAYBE THEY RAPED THEM FIRST AND DONT WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW.

Posted by: ELLEN at September 24, 2004 06:58 AM

58 ELLE:

Well, they are vermin now aren't they? They probably understand that the sentiment in the west will be to no longer accept these cockroaches who hold up signs saying, "islam will dominate the world." because they understand islam would quickly dominate the cemetaries in short order.

Posted by: Andre at September 24, 2004 07:06 AM

59 Ok, I finally get it, these things we call Arabs - Afghans - towel heads - sand nigs - whatever...The thing is they are all psycho, they need to be nuked. The kids will grow up hating as they are taught, we have no choice. Lets leave a big hole in the earth with no regret. Do you think they regret what they do? HELL NO!

Posted by: Sue at September 24, 2004 08:58 AM

60 Sue:

Honestly, they will regret just as a condemned prisoner who has committed multiple murders is strapped into the gurney or electric chair it is only at the end do they finally experience pains of regret but it isn't an alturistic regret either.

Posted by: Andre at September 24, 2004 09:18 AM

61 Speaking of raping them, didn't the muslim scum in Russia rape the female school children?

Posted by: Andre at September 24, 2004 01:31 PM

62 Andre, unlike a prisioner being put to death, these people truely believe they're doing the work of their god, and that dieing my the hands of infidels just makes their afterlife much more rewarding. You can't instill terror into a mind like that. It's like any religion: as long as you have a mythical creature whom makes everything happen, and everything you know about what's right and wrong has been "interpreted" throughout the ages, you give that diety credit for the good that you see, and you don't question the bad things you see or do, because it's all for "some higher purpose".

The mother of the child whom is bringing charges against Michael Jackson told the press that "God choose her son to bring Michael Jackson to justice". No matter what happens, your diety of choice meant that for you (and I'm speaking about the terrorists, not you specifically).

Posted by: DB at September 24, 2004 01:32 PM

63 They raped the schoolchildren? You've got to be kidding me! I can't even come up with a response to that...

Posted by: DB at September 24, 2004 01:33 PM

64 Hey all, you guys want to help a brotha out??

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/047301.php

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 24, 2004 02:28 PM

65 DB I am quiet sure on that, that they sexually assaulting the school children that they took female students into another room adjacent and you could hear screams or something to that effect. Obviously we're dealing not with a "different culture." but a cancer that is turning malignant.

Posted by: Andre at September 24, 2004 02:58 PM

66 I just noticed after reviewing the beheading pics again that there always seems to be no more or less than (5) cowards hiding behind the hostage before they kill him. In many of the pics, the 5 men appear to be of similar size and stature as the other pics.

Any chance that we're dealing with that small of a group of wackos?

And someone please answer me, what's wrong with this approach: shouldn't the US be issuing a warning to all civilians in Iraq to get out of town for a while, until this this is under control? I know they are there to rebuild Iraq, and pulling them out would delay the rebuilding, but in other countries, the US Government has issued decrees (I forget what they call them) for US citizens to get out asap when they sense something big is likley to happen. Doesn't this qualify as something big? Or in the grand sceme of things, are these few civilians too small to warrant such a strong defensive approach?

Posted by: DB at September 24, 2004 03:01 PM

67 In the name of Allah most porcine and plump, please pass the chops and praise be Allah:

http://english.pravda.ru/society/2002/09/09/36155.html

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/11/13/39464.html
http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/2001/04/28/4393.html

search in english.pravda.ru you'll find more gorey details and information on the attacks there. Though I see some common gramatical errors that occur when non-english speakers translate to and from their own native languge. (should know, i'm learning russian in college right now.)

Posted by: Andre at September 24, 2004 03:20 PM

68 the true face of islam, not of peace but of domination.

This is the picture I was crowing about:

http://www.republicanandproud.com/behold_the_face_of_islam.htm

Posted by: Andre at September 24, 2004 05:02 PM

69 I don't understand how someone can believe that these people are hiding behind allah and there beliefs. That is their core...from birth to death. They truly believe that this is what they are to do if they are following their god...sick and wrong as it may be. I am catholic, my sister is mormon....she thinks I'm going to hell because I'm not mormon and I consume alcohol. I think she is brain washed. Decisions of merit are decided every day based on a persons faith or denomination in this country and it causes huge uproar. You don't think Bushes bible belting beliefs are driving the denial of gay marriage and other issues? We are supposed to have a separation of church and state for this very reason. This is not Nazi Germany where a freak in power turns some weak minds and gets them to exterminate millions of Jews and other innocent people in the name of christianity and purity. Hitler and the like had been brewing and in power a total of less than two decades.....Something like that can be eradicated.....The middle east has never known peace....they do not have a society outside of religon....life and society are their religon...they eat, sleep breathe it. Most American's live their lives....come the end of the week clean up, put on their Sunday best and head to church for a couple of hours.
A GROSS UNDERESTIMATION HAS BEEN MADE HERE!
This is the way these people fight... these people are worse then animals....animals do not kill for sport or statement.....these people are heinous evil hollow beings to us free of mercy,humanity or any regard for human life regardless of age or gender...but they see themselves as serving god's will.
A new government, reform, people free from oppression....you can take the spots off a cheetah...it's still a cheetah.
This disgusting means of murder and torure is not new....it's just with the electronic age we can have it in our face. Our government knew first hand what atroscities are being commited....ie: how they fight..and still chose to go to war unprepared...without a long-term plan....a gross miscalculation/underestimation...
Unaccepable actions from someone elected as the leader of the free world and the man who sent us to war.
....how do you unring a bell?
I am terrified to continue and terrified what would happen if we withdraw...Somalia...Veitnam???
These people are evil and I am scared...but I don't know what I fear most them or a president that chose to fight these kind of people unprepared.....and I voted for him last time...won't make that mistake again.

Posted by: Catcher at September 24, 2004 05:09 PM

70 My thoughts, are with the families of the men and women, murdered by these germ infected assholes. If anyone knows the whereabouts, of any of these scum, I would volunteer to be a suicide bomber.

Posted by: John Burke at September 25, 2004 06:35 PM

71 The contractors should have suicide belts on them, that way if they are captured they could make it a point that the filthy shit terrorists are going to die too. After the first hundred of the terrorists they'll figure it out.

Posted by: Andre at September 25, 2004 07:32 PM

72 what do you people expect ??
you illegally invade Iraq , kill thousands of innocents , bomb the crap out of afganistan killing even more thousands , then have the nerve to be outraged when a couple of hostages get thier heads cut off !!!!!!

These people hate america with very good reason (it was only this morning i saw a baby being pulled form the ruble of a building the yankeess had bombed ) so why shouldnt they hit back at you ???

Posted by: ali at September 26, 2004 03:29 AM

73 Ali, you need to educate yourself somewhat a litle more. Its a well known fact that your own leaders massacred more of their own people than any americans ever did. We all know the shortfalls of the americans, but the people of iraq need to look to the future, not live 500 yrs in the past!

Posted by: elbow at September 26, 2004 11:01 AM

74 Ali, we should just nuke all muslim countries until they are glass parking lots and expell all muslim trash from western countries. Obviously by looking at the crap hole conditions in the arab world the arabs would much rather live in a pig pen and bark to a fosilized piece of shit in mecca.

Posted by: Andre at September 26, 2004 01:48 PM

75 Two Italian hostages in good health, Italian media reports

ROME, 09/27 - A Kuwaiti paper said that the two kidnapped Italian aid workers in Iraq were in good health and being treated well by their kidnappers, Italian News Agency ANSA reported on Sunday.

http://www.angolapress-angop.ao/noticia-e.asp?ID=284799

Maybe good news, may be just false hopes.

Posted by: Andre at September 27, 2004 08:38 PM

76 It's time to bring back the Crusades ... complete with Napalm and nukes!

Posted by: Fed Up at September 27, 2004 09:31 PM

77 The entire Iraq episode was the dumbest thing that President Bush has done and will ever do. All that he wanted was to squeeze the last drop of oil from Iraq and pay for it with the lives of innocent people like Nick Berg, Jack Hensley, Mohammed Mutawalli(the egyptian spy who was beheaded) and countless other people. For the people who believe that President Bush has done the right thing, let me ask you this - Do you think that such "animals" who were involved in the beheadings would have come about in Iraq if America had not invaded it? And for others who say that America invaded Iraq becuz of the WMD's, where in hell is it? And for still others who think that the war in Iraq is in retaliation of September 11, ask yourself who exactly was responsible for not taking the information provided to him seriously by the american intelligence way before the actual attacks?
Do think about this for a while and you will then realise the truth.

Posted by: Arjun at September 28, 2004 11:57 AM

78 Actually bill clinton was the one that started the mess by not taking advantage of the intelligence on Osma. So since he failed to act, bush was handed this mess initially thru a tragic event (9/11). You cant complain about bush should have done this or Bush should have done that. Try to react in Bush's shoes on that day, what would you have done, how do you console a entire nation, how would you react as president of the last superpower. these are not easy decisions and im quite sure that even the most politically correct person would have made mistakes and pissed somebody off. most of the people that were feeding bush words of encouragement and intelligence to go to war are now the same ones pointing fingers and laying all the blame in his lap now that American soldiers are seen dead across the pages of our papers. A president cannot wage war on his own authority. it takes the vote of elected officials that you and i have placed in those offices. So instead of throwing the entire blame on bush, take a good look at how much energy and research you did on those people that you elected to put in the lower positions. You know the ones im talking about, the ones that overwhelmingly supported the rush to go to war based on the info they collected and passed to the president, but now want to bitch and say oops bad intel we should not be there.. bad news TOO LATE, now deal with it and help those boys finish thier jobs so they can come home and raise thier kids and be within the borders of this great country. The vote happens in November so stop whining and pointing fingers and figure out who will take the reins and lead this country in the direction that seems right, based on our current intellingence that is.....

Posted by: Daniel at October 08, 2004 12:46 PM

79 Truth: We pray for forgivness to mighty Allah for the crimes we have committed against his children. For the blasphemy of using his word to do the works of evil and murder. The black we wear represents our soul that is shamed and destined to eternity in the lowest darkest depths of hell. For we shall wallow with the pigs and sleep in their filth. We also beg forgiveness for creating the the savage and bloody massacres that continue daily due to our own idiology and falsness we have created against you oh mighty Allah. We will face our victims in the next world and may they tear the flesh from our bodies through the space of eternity. We created these attrocities to which there will be no end except for our own deaths. We are not martyrs, we are cowards who kill in the night and run like dogs to hide in the sand. We shall be forever cursed for we have also killed thousands of our own people with our actions. The price is to high, Forgive us Most Merciful Allah! Praise be to Allah!

Posted by: Kiumars Mohimi at October 08, 2004 01:42 PM

80 Its time to remove all the liberal bastards from this society.Start beheading all those muslim
fucks just like they have done to the US and other countries! Time to get a taste of their medicine or a feel of their own KNIFE!
Chicken shits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: NI4NI at October 11, 2004 02:44 PM

81 Hey guys!! Let me tell you a few things. The redneck comment....cute but ineffective.
In fact.... Texas is bigger than your whole country. Further ....I think I am a few days short of telling you to kiss my ass. (I am smiling.) The only thing most of your people have ever been good at is making wine and surrendering!! I am proud to be from Texas and a woman. As far as Jihad or any facsimile, I refuse to be intimidated by those bastards and they may kill me, but I promise you ... I am taking a few of the pricks with me.
I REFUSE to beg for ANYTHYING!! I would probably piss them off so bad they wouldn't get to the beheading part. They way I see it... I wouldn't give them the satisfaction... I would accept the fact I was toast and try to kill as many as I could. If it has to be the Wild West for a while so be it!!! I am deadly accurate with a firearm....as many of us "rednecks' are. Any chicken shit that would as a man behead a woman let alone any other human being is a satanic monster. Some of those people were missionaries helping Iraqi children. They brutalize and kill their own people... yet they are hacked because we are killing some of them? I think Allah is a translation for Satan. As for the Atheists above... If you act like there is no God...You'd better be right. Take your vitamins,and look both ways before you cross the street. Thats the beauty of being in a free country.... you have the first amendment right to go to hell in a handbasket as an atheist, or tell someone to kiss your happy ass.

Ya gotta love it!!! Yours very truly....

T E X A S R E D N E C K :o)

Posted by: Proud to be a redneck at November 04, 2004 11:26 PM

82 Amen Sister!

We love you redneck girl!!

Posted by: Wt at January 13, 2005 10:31 PM

83 Pissssssssssst! Hey little secret all of the hatred I am seeing only confims what I've thought all along. Where f---ed and God is Going to show us all what he thinks of this behavior and if he don't say anything I wont blame him we are killing our selves everyday anyway! Water, air, ground, just plain polutants our biggest mistake was letting others speak on our behaves. Give all of the world leaders a joint and lock them in a room untill they come out with some RICHEOUS answers. We can turn the tide if we work at it but I think it has gone to far. I can't understand after millions of years the EARTH was in excellent shape and in less than 200yrs we fu--ed It beyond repair need proof OPEN YOUR EYES F--- Polatics religion personal belief's ect. The answers will only be known when your dead! God Bless our Miserable Souls

Posted by: Len D at June 15, 2005 10:03 PM






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