American Hostage Jack Hensley Beheading Video Released
Scroll down past updates for original post on the Jack Hensley video for links to video, images from it, and news.-----------------------------------------------
UPDATE 10/08: Kenneth Bigley executed in Iraq by Zarqawi terrorist organization. The story is developing, but sources in Fallujah claim Bigley beheaded. For the latest information, links to video, and images on the Kenneth Bigley murder please go to the MAIN PAGE or by CLICKING HERE for the 10/08 report. For the latest information, links to video, and images on hostages in Iraq please check the main page by CLICKING HERE. Here is a list of all the victims of Islamic Beheadings since late July this year. 10/08 Kenneth Bigley Executed in Iraq Images and Video Here.
10/02 Iraqi Victim Barie Nafie Dawoud Ibrahim Beheading Video and Images Here
9/22 American Hostage Jack Hensley Beheading Video and Images Here
9/20 American Hostage Eugene Armstrong Beheaded on Video Here
9/13 Turkish Hostage Beheaded on Video Here
9/08 Three Muslim 'Informants' Beheaded by the Religion of Irony
8/31 12 Nepalese Hostages Killed, 1 Beheaded Here
8/26 Italian Hostage Enzo Baldoni Murdered Here
8/25 Alleged CIA Agent Beheaded in Video Here
8/13 Another Alleged CIA Agent Beheaded on Video Here
8/11 CIA Agent Executed: Another Beheading Video
8/09 Another Bulgarian Beheading Video
8/02 Turkish Hostage Murdered
7/28 Bulgarian Beheading Video
7/27 Kashmir Rebels Bomb Hospital, Behead Three
7/27 Paul Johnson Beheading Video and Images Here
--------------------------------------- A new video has been released by Abu Musab al Zarqawi's al-Tawhid Wal Jihad terrorist organization showing the gruesome beheading murder of American hostage Jack Hensley. A link to the video is below. The group claimed to have beheaded Mr. Hensley yesterday at an Islamic bulletin board. My previous post about this is here. Images from the video are in the extended entry below. UPDATE: If you would like to help the Hensley family in their time of need please consider donating to the Jack Hensley Foundation.
WARNING!! Video is very graphic. More than that, it is sick and disgusting. Earlier today the terrorist released a video in which they try to blame the imminent beheading of Kenneth Bigley on Tony Blair. After you see this, you will know who the real criminals are.The video can be downloaded at NEIN or with this link. Two non-graphic images from the video Images from the video can be found below. WARNING!!! Not for the faint at heart, but these images will remind you of the scumbags we are fighting.
Images below. Last chance to avoid them
I hope, pray and dream that some day this will all stop
my preys are with his family
Posted by: Dee at September 22, 2004 03:24 PM
Posted by: Digger at September 22, 2004 03:41 PM
It makes me sick to the stomach too, Dee, indeed. My thoughts to his family and all the other victims. But I must admit that the more of these attrocities I see, the stronger my resolve that we must do something to stop them. Just what, I don't know. And to think that they're raising a whole new generation of murderers every day, all in the name of their "god". What sort of god encourages religious cleansing?
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 03:41 PM
I'm getting tired here, Rusty.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 22, 2004 03:49 PM
Posted by: Curious at September 22, 2004 03:50 PM
Posted by: dee at September 22, 2004 03:53 PM
Posted by: Disgusted at September 22, 2004 03:57 PM
Every God that every asshole with a chip on their shoulder believes they are killing in his name. More killing and bloodshed has been done in the name of God than any other reason. If its "your" God who is the reason its good ... the other sucker's fighting for his God is SOL.
Posted by: Salamander at September 22, 2004 04:00 PM
I feel we all should act up in our countries and even if we are not as cruel as they are we should send them all out with no exemptions as they do with us.
We should start to kill as many as we can of them,down our streets and in theyr mosquee as they do not have any respect of our religion nor of our people.
We Must act now until they are not yet so strong and before they will be more powerful arounf the world.
Everybody has to do something. We can't have our sons with theyr sons in our (european) schools.
If violence is the only way to comunicate with them then we must use their same "language"They have just killed two innoncent man ....here WE MUST do the same,
If we walk down the street and we see any muslim walking if we are sure no police is around and we have the chanche we MUST kill him/her.
It's the only way
WE MUST START NOW EVERYBODY THAT HAS THE CHANCHE TO DO SO HAVE TO ACT NOW.
sorry for my english I'm Italian
Posted by: andrea at September 22, 2004 04:01 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 04:13 PM
the fact remains, we have only seen these beheadings under Bush.
On the contrary, beheadings and other acts of just-as-sensless terrorism (plane hijackings/bombings for example) have been around for centuries (well, planes haven't been around for centuries, but you know what I mean, I hope). Beheadings have been going on long before Bush's daddy was Pres. of the USA.
Salamander is right about "your" GOD being the reason to kill: my question was rhetorical in nature. I see religion as having been invented for a primary purpose of justifying the killing of those who don't belong to your religious group. How many innocents have the Catholics killed for example(think back centuries, not months). In the old days it made sense: rape and plunder your neighboring countries to steal their land, livestock, and women, and your religion will propagate. Some religions have evolved, some are still way back there in the dark ages.
Andrea, your feelings of hatred are shared by many of us, but if we kill innocent Muslims in the name of exterminating the religion, aren't we no better than them? Beheading innocent Muslims is no different than beheading Bush, which some have called for on this blog.
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 04:18 PM
They shouldn't think that only people of America would want to contribute.
Posted by: Red Devil at September 22, 2004 04:23 PM
For anyone who doesn't want to see the horrible images: you don't have to. Please, steer away from them. That's why you won't see them on main-stream media in the Western world. As Rusty says, "not for the faint at heart"
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 04:29 PM
One of the killers is no longer cutting off heads, he's a large wet messy bunch of crispy fried flesh.
They will fall.
This kind of killing did not start under Bush's administration. It's been happening to Americans beginning with Klinghoffer, going forward killing innocents in embassies, planes, barracks and nightclubs. Of course unless we have those that think this killing all started in the past because of one day Bush was going to be President.
Posted by: mshyde at September 22, 2004 04:30 PM
Posted by: baba booey at September 22, 2004 04:33 PM
MOAB; heat Fallujah.
Repeat as neccessary.
Posted by: Joe Mama at September 22, 2004 04:33 PM
the fact remains, we have only seen these beheadings under Bush."
These beheadings are done by the islamic checken muslim terrorists, too. Gonna blame that on Bush? I DON'T THINK SO. Man, if you don't know what you're talking about, DON'T TALK.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at September 22, 2004 04:40 PM
Many of the videos can be found here:
dubdubdub dot homelandsecurityus dot com/hostages.asp
Mshyde has an interesting theory that all terrorist activities throughout the ages were performed because one day a Bush would be in the White House. Humm...
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 04:43 PM
Posted by: D at September 22, 2004 04:44 PM
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 04:54 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 05:07 PM
Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 05:34 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 05:36 PM
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 05:38 PM
They have nothing to lose but their lives
(and they don't mind 'cause of the whole virgin thing)
Yeah, and wouldn't we all like to arrange that orgy for them?
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 05:41 PM
Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 05:41 PM
Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 05:44 PM
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 05:44 PM
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 05:48 PM
Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 05:52 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 05:55 PM
And since they have to be virgins, I guess they only get used once? Then what? Are they given to the Muslims that didn't get around to killing anyone when they were alive?
Posted by: DB at September 22, 2004 05:57 PM
Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 06:00 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 06:05 PM
Posted by: mugwhibaby at September 22, 2004 06:09 PM
YES, MUSLIM INFIDELS IT’S AFTER ALL ABOUT HUMILIATING YOU BEFORE YOUR FINAL ERRADICATION, IT’S ABOUT OIL, IT’S ABOUT LAND, IT’S BASICALLY ABOUT THE UNANIMOUS UNEQUALLED ECSTATIC PLEASURE OF MAIMING BEFORE KILLING EVERY ONE OF YOU PESTS.
SO GO ON CRY US RIVERS (MOSTLY CROCODILE TEARS!) MUSLIM RODENTS AND KEEP SPEWING ALL YOUR STUPID LIES, WE WON’T BE MOVED , INSTEAD ADDS TWISTS AND MORE PLEASURE WHILE YOU ARE BIENG MASSACRED IN THE GLOBAL ‘KILLING ARENA’..YOU CAN SAY IT’S A RECREATION OF THE BLOODTHIRSTY SPECTATOR SPORTS OF THE BYGONE ROMAN ERA.
LONG LIVE G.W.BUSH
LONG LIVE ARIEL SHARON
LONG LIVE TONY BLAIR
LONG LIVE D RUMSFIELD
LONG LIVE RICHARD PEARL
LONG LIVE ALL STARTEGISTS WHO ARE BRINGING ABOUT THE HISTORIC HUMILITY AND DOOM OF ISLAM.
DEATH TO ISLAM
DESTRUCTION TO THE DEMON'CRATIC PARTY
DESTRUCTION TO LEFTISM WORLD WIDE (SORRY Mr T. BLAIR)
DEATH TO ISLAM
DESTRUSTION TO MECCA, MEDINA AND AL-AQSA MOUSE’QE
SHIT & PISS BE UPON MOHAMMED, ISLAM'S DEMONIC PERVERT MESSENGER
Posted by: ARNOLD at September 22, 2004 07:26 PM
Posted by: american rules at September 22, 2004 07:39 PM
Posted by: J.D. at September 22, 2004 07:52 PM
Posted by: jupes at September 22, 2004 07:53 PM
Quick memo to workers in the region: You assumed the risk, now go down fighting. Don't plead for your life. It only makes you and all other Americans look weak. I think these terrorist activities are grotesque, but the more I see these videos, I expect nothing else from these parasites. Fuck em', at least spit in there face.
Finally, can some network stop making these killings a headline. It glorifies and validates these desert pigmies.
Yes, I agree. BOMB al-Jazeera daily.
It's the terrorist network message delivery system. Fuck the civilians there. They shouldn't be there anyway.
Let's get Pissed off, not pissed on!!!
Posted by: whatsthedealwiththecheezyscreennames at September 22, 2004 07:54 PM
Gee, I guess all Christians are bad as well. Why? Don't you know, the KKK were a "bunch of good christian boys just protecting what's theirs".
I'm for taking care of the enemy, but there are plenty of average, every day good people who just happen to be Muslim.
You, lighten up. Take a heavy sedative...hell with your racist attitude, take a whole damn bottle and chase it with a gallon of gasoline.
You know who you remind me of...those guys in Iraq and the M.E. who spend their time hating something they don't understand, and they hate it with a passion that could only be borne of ignorance.
And now I am sure that you'll go and pass yourself off and some God-fearing man with some sort of morality, or some kind of crap like that. I find it offensive that in the same post you are asking for God to bless him and him and him, yet you can spew that sewage out of your pie-hole and somehow be okay with it.
So in summation, we have discovered that you are indeed a racist evolutionary dead-end, who's kind we would have hoped would have died out with the neanderthal. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that you were probably a middle to upper middle class jerk with a penchant for cowardice and a huge case of self loathing. You have the right to your opinion, I'll grant you that, but I don't think that Freedom of Speech was intended by the Founding Fathers as the right for you to make a total Jackass of yourself, and in public while offending just about anyone with any sort of moral sensibility.
Posted by: Scott at September 22, 2004 07:59 PM
Posted by: Del Boy at September 22, 2004 08:26 PM
Then MOAB the building and all those around it. The neighbors know whats been happening. So take them out too.
After a while...they'll figure it out...but hundreds of terrorists will die first. Sure, there will be colateral damage...but this will make the non-terrorists flee town when the real terrorist move in....and that is a really nice indicator to home in on.
FYI...one MOAB has more explosive power then the H-Bomb dropped on Japan. But no radiation because it is a conventional explosive. Just a really BIG one.
As far as the beheadings being Bush's fault because he is at the wheel when it happens. How about blaming CLINTON for being asleep at the wheel while they planned and trained for 9/11 right here in the US! If you wanna Blame Bush for 9/11 you need a reality check! You wanna blame Bush for these beheadings....you need to stare into a mirror until you find one of the greatest problems with this country. It shouldn't take to long.
Posted by: DeadlyArcher at September 22, 2004 08:47 PM
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 22, 2004 09:02 PM
Utter disbelief of their iminent death is what keeps them planted on their butts. They are conditioned to believe that they will not be mistreated by their captors when they are "arrested". That they will get their day to say something on their own behalf, or at the very least be allowed to defend their good names. But alas this is not the case everywhere else in this world.
Order is found by numerous means. For us democracy is our means of order, for others religious dictatorship can be theirs. Communist authority still resides in parts of the world and they have order as well...but keep in mind, even most of the civilised world still executes their prisoners; hanging, electrocution, lethal injection, beheading, etc. Saudi Arabia still practices torture and beheading as what they deem to be justified punishment. Not all those accused of a crime are guilty, yet there are still many who are executed that are innocent of the crimes they are accused of.
Plus when you stop mass executions then you are left with few alternatives. Corporal punishment and incarceration to name a couple. The USA has the highest incarceration rate of the entire world.
As a point, do not think that I am making a case for capital/corporal punishment or incarceration.
Nor would I condone the acts presented in these videos. I simply wish to present a little light on what is actually going on.
If any nation wishes to call itself civilised then it must firstly eliminate all forms of barbarism within its ranks. But at the same time I cannot eliminate the utter reality that violence is the ultimate form of power in the universe. Who can resist nature at its absolute worst.
A military friend once said to me: "Peace is wonderful, peace if fostered could be great for all mankind. That all people would work together and create a loving society free from greed and violence, could truly be greatness. But I can't help but imagine myself attacking them outright simply because they would never see it coming."
Posted by: DLS at September 22, 2004 09:30 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 09:31 PM
Only when they crap on our lawn do we stand up and take note. Is this ignorance.
I have watched these videos many a time and they disgust and give me nightmares, i cannot imagine what there families are going through.
But lets not blame all islams, it is a small minority of islamic extremists. Lets not forget the KKK and what they did/do in the name of Christianity. See www.kkk.com its in your country.
Or what the BNP extremists do in the UK.
There are thousands of extremists out there but WE JUST DON'T TAKE NOTE.
Watch the videos open your eyes, do something but don't be ignorant.
Posted by: Adrian at September 22, 2004 10:14 PM
Posted by: Tammy at September 22, 2004 11:03 PM
Posted by: Tammy at September 22, 2004 11:11 PM
i'm sure i'll get alot of people thinking i'm callous/uncaring or whatever, but really i'm just a bit scientific by nature, and i am truly wondering if anyone else noticed this.
Posted by: jack at September 22, 2004 11:43 PM
Posted by: Laundry Queen at September 22, 2004 11:50 PM
keep an open mind. of course i condemn all this, but these people are simply ignorant and out of touch, not demons. well maybe demons. i'm an atheist so i don't know about these terms
Posted by: jack at September 22, 2004 11:59 PM
Only when they crap on our lawn do we stand up and take note. Is this ignorance.
I have watched these videos many a time and they disgust and give me nightmares, i cannot imagine what there families are going through.
But lets not blame all islams, it is a small minority of islamic extremists. Lets not forget the KKK and what they did/do in the name of Christianity. See www.kkk.com its in your country.
Or what the BNP extremists do in the UK.
There are thousands of extremists out there but WE JUST DON'T TAKE NOTE.
Watch the videos open your eyes, do something but don't be ignorant.
Posted by: Adrian at September 23, 2004 12:03 AM
Posted by: skylar at September 23, 2004 12:06 AM
Posted by: ROODOG at September 23, 2004 12:43 AM
Posted by: the worm at September 23, 2004 01:03 AM
I support the War, and George Bush. But I think it is time to withdraw all troops, deport all Islamists back to Iraq. Give them 24 hours to turn over their leaders....and if they do not comply...drop a Nuclear Bomb on Baghdad.
Posted by: DR Stefan at September 23, 2004 01:45 AM
Posted by: GS at September 23, 2004 01:59 AM
Would Christians or Jews help them? I hear you. The chances are good that other Muslims living here helped them. So, when I hear on this board a call for revenge on all Muslims (like this Italian guy said), I tend to think that there is some merit to this even so I'm against any brutalities.
Posted by: adviser at September 23, 2004 02:20 AM
Posted by: pfc at September 23, 2004 02:33 AM
1) Capture the Country in question by using Military Might and have it run by a Multinational force
2) Imprison all the spreaders of violence and keep them there for good-you can try reforming them but I would think its a waste of time...
3) Round up all the children and provide proper education, health and other amneties and make sure they grow up like normal human beings.
4)Hand over the country back to it's nationals after 20 years.
5) Keep the spreaders of violence and terrorism locked up elsewhere for good.
Posted by: Danny at September 23, 2004 03:06 AM
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Posted by: Dave at September 23, 2004 03:21 AM
Posted by: Dee at September 23, 2004 04:15 AM
The U.S and Allied forces are obliged to treat all prisoners with due process before the law. Were it to abandon this process, then it would send the terrorists the message that teh west is as ruthless as they are. Removing the kids gloves, turnin the sand to glass, nuke those bastards, comments etc etc are reactionary and ignorant. The soldiers who carried out the degrading acts on the Iraqi detainees have done nothing but bring shame upon their respective armies. After all you wouldn't want to reduce yourself to their level or would you?
Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 04:31 AM
Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 04:41 AM
Posted by: d scott at September 23, 2004 04:51 AM
I am so sorry for there grief and loss.
Posted by: Elaine at September 23, 2004 05:49 AM
there is an islamic word: kafir
which means non-believer a disbeliever in God
and there is nothing worse than being called kafir to a muslim
all muslims are kafir
the only thing they care about is world domination and money
islam is a plague
it's time for the new crusades
and fuck cat stevens traitor piece of shit
Posted by: muslim hater at September 23, 2004 07:04 AM
Posted by: Disgusted at September 23, 2004 07:18 AM
Okay i might of been wrong calling them animals,but come on theres been trouble in Iraq for decades.
The twentieth-century history of Iraq has been a troubled one. Since its establishment by the British in the 1920s, the country has witnessed the rise and fall of successive regimes, culminating in the dictatorship of Saddam Husain.Look at Iraq’s political history the Ottoman empire, to the development of the state, its transformation from monarchy to republic and the rise of the Ba’th party and the ascendancy of Saddam Husain.Social conflict, of power struggles between rival clans, of hostility and wars with neighboring states, as well as of their aftermath, and Iraq’s deteriorating relations with the West.
Not forgetting how many times the British were dragged into Iraq to protect the oil fields over these years.
1968 July 17: Bakr and his followers overthrow president Abdul Rahman Arif. Bakr becomes the new president of Iraq. He soon came to cooperate closely with his second cousin, Saddam Hussein, in widening his power base in the officer corps.
As deputy to the ailing General Bakr, Saddam Hussein instituted widespread reforms and built up a ruthless security apparatus.
The two leaders' early moves caused concern in the West.
In 1972, at the height of the Cold War, Iraq signed a 15-year treaty with the Soviet Union.
It also nationalized the Iraqi Petroleum Company, which had been set up under British administration and was pumping cheap oil to the West.
Soaring oil revenues resulting from the 1973 oil crisis were invested in industry, education and health care, raising Iraq's standard of living to one of the highest in the Arab world.
In 1974, Kurds in the north funded by the US-backed Shah of Iran rebelled.
The conflict pushed Baghdad to the negotiating table, where Iraq agreed to share control of the disputed Shatt al-Arab waterway with Iran.
The Shah cut off the Kurds' funds and the Iraqi regime put down their uprising.
Saddam Hussein extended his grip on power, stationing relatives and allies in key government and business roles.
In 1978, membership of opposition parties became punishable by death.
The following year, Saddam Hussein forced General Bakr's resignation - officially due to ill health - and assumed the presidency.
He executed dozens of his rivals within days of taking power
Also not forgetting my 18 years son is now in Iraq serving with the British army so next time i don't know what i am talking about I'll take your advise and (refrain from making further posts unless i have something worthwhile to say.)
Posted by: Dee at September 23, 2004 07:28 AM
Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 07:40 AM
Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 07:43 AM
I do understand there are alot of innocent people live there that probably want to see peace as much as we all do
Posted by: Dee at September 23, 2004 07:58 AM
You are all insane.
Posted by: Sandall at September 23, 2004 08:39 AM
This suggestion that all muslims are evil, bad or even the same as each other is ridiculous. If I said all whites are christian, or all christians are catholic, or all catholics go to church regularly, you'd know instantly that I was talking out of my arse. So why do you think that saying all Muslims are "whatever" is valid?
These ridiculous generalisations are a complete waste of keyboard time.
You lot need to realise that the Muslims in question are EXTREMISTS. ie. they have particularly EXTREME viewpoints. And I think it's been fairly well explored in the public eye that their views do not reflect a strict adherence to the Qur'an (Koran) anyway. The guys that cut peoples heads off aren't going to get any virgins in heaven.
PLUS (and here's where you might start ignoring me) I have a feeling that whilst their means cannot be justified (murdering people is never a good thing, regardless of the method used, but this method makes me sick inside), their anger is genuine and needs to be considered.
Where did their anger come from? I see two possible sources: miseducation by manipulative elders, and in this case the perpetrators of these crimes might benefit from a demonstration by us (the Enemy in their eyes) of how their education was flawed. ie. don't drop down to their level. Get rid of all this "eye for an eye" shit and just step back (and that includes the occupying army in their country I guess)
The other source is anger at Allied attacks on their people. They've lost more innocent civilians overall. It might be 'justifiable' to us as some kind of consequence of 'war' but try seeing it from their point of view. They're pissed off and they have no chance of winning this fight so they've turned dirty. I can see WHY.
I can't agree with their actions, but I have some degree of sympathy for their position.
By the way, I don't actually see HOW the allied army could possibly pull out not without it being seen as a victory for the terrorists. So I guess we can't pull out, but I don't see a solution to the problem unless we do.
how fucked up is THAT!?
Posted by: Joe at September 23, 2004 08:57 AM
(Newsworld International tends to have some decent news feeds.) At least through them I got to find out that Chechnya is rapidly becoming a Islamic society and wants independence from russia. NWI ran a nice long piece (10+min) and gave a lot of background on whats going on over there. And, they seemed to pull it off without a soundtrack and fancy animated graphics! Gee, how do they do it.
Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 08:57 AM
Posted by: LP at September 23, 2004 09:09 AM
Posted by: seadog at September 23, 2004 09:13 AM
Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:36 AM
Posted by: Chris at September 23, 2004 09:37 AM
Posted by: bob at September 23, 2004 10:01 AM
Posted by: Disgusted at September 23, 2004 10:11 AM
I heard that coalition forces recently killed his "spiritual leader":
That's a great start!!!
Posted by: mike at September 23, 2004 11:12 AM
Let's get them the hell out of there.
THen let's get all foreign troops out of there and have Iraq solve there own issues!!!
Who wants this?
Posted by: Daan at September 23, 2004 11:32 AM
Posted by: ShaniFaye at September 23, 2004 11:52 AM
Weapons imported by Iraq, 1973-2002
Share of Sales by Country
United States: 1%
Source: SIPRI (Stockholm International Peach Research Institute)
Posted by: J.D. at September 23, 2004 12:00 PM
Posted by: Adolfo at September 23, 2004 12:06 PM
>Please refrain from making further posts unless you have something worthwhile to say.
How thoughtful of you to encourage stifling of FREE SPEECH on a PUBLIC bulletin board. You wouldn't happen to be for banning books as well, would you? I'm hoping your last name is not Goebbels or Kerry.
Posted by: J.D. at September 23, 2004 12:09 PM
Posted by: Scott at September 23, 2004 12:41 PM
Posted by: matt at September 23, 2004 12:54 PM
We need individual security and weapons traiings for civies in Iraq. We need a nation united around a wartime president so our troops whom are demoralized from these beheadings dont have to be further upset by Kerry's ridicule of what they are doing. They risk their lives daily and Kerry is spewing negativity and lies about what needs to be accomplished.
The US cannot give in to demands and must remain strong. We who are computer hackers should try to locate the IP address of the scum that is posting this and help where we can. I have narrowed it down to 20 IP's so far. If anyone wants to helpme let me know.
Posted by: Andrew at September 23, 2004 01:07 PM
Posted by: FranceSux at September 23, 2004 01:08 PM
It's still very ironic to me that these people who supposedly are fighting for their homeland will do anything in their power to insure that they continue to live in filth and squalor, in the dark ages. Maybe it's because they know, instintively, that they hate-breeding cannot survive in a country that has access to information other than what their "spiritual leaders" tell them is the truth.
I listened to my grandfather talk of the days on the farm when everyone looked forward to go to church because it was their only means of socialization: they got their news there. Of neighbors, of births and deaths, governments actions, the weather, everything that we take for granted now becuase it's a few clicks away. Imagine if the ONLY source of getting your information, from the day you were born, was from al-Zurqawi or Osama. The ONLY thing you were taught was that as a Muslim, all non-Muslims must be exterminated. What a sad world that is.
Posted by: DB at September 23, 2004 01:23 PM
Of these monotheistic traditions one may be correct, one was a gift to all mankind and one is false.
Question: Would God bless jihad?
Posted by: James at September 23, 2004 01:25 PM
Posted by: Dee at September 23, 2004 01:25 PM
It is very simple. We must stay in Iraq. Civilians need the good pay and it is good for the Iraqi people to see Americans not in uniform on their streets. What needs to be done is the Civilians need to convoy and movement and have very good weapons training. If you cant handle a weapon and the risk then dont take the job. Second , they should have a full time security force with them. Third, they need to live in barracks with soldiers not in expensive homes the standard Iraqi cant even afford.
Posted by: Andrew at September 23, 2004 01:46 PM
Andrew... these contractors are forbidden the carrying of weapons due to the fact that they are not there to fight and they have been forced to sign over their right to self protect themselves. If they shot someone, even in self defense, they could be tried for a warcrime. Especially since you know that those heathen people would deem the person who got shot an honorable member of society who was an active member of the mosque and who served his community, a husband and father who never threatened anyone and has nothing to do with this war.
Posted by: chris at September 23, 2004 02:02 PM
Posted by: greyrooster at September 23, 2004 02:02 PM
Don't really understand the outrage at Kerry at all these sites. I'm not a huge fan of his, but let's do a compare and contrast:
1. Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam; Bush went AWOL from the reserve.
2. Some THINK Kerry lied about subtleties of a firefight on the swiftboat; yet we KNOW Bush lied about the state of WMDs in Iraq. Don't really know why Americans (not singling out conservatives or liberals) aren't outraged more by this. Christ, we watched the Starr Commission search for months (was it years) for something to nab Clinton on. Whitewater didn't pan out; all they had was a blowjob in the WhiteHouse. How many people died for that blowjob? How many countries did we alienate? Yes, he lied under oath ("I did not have sex with that woman"). I'd like to hear from ANY of you that you would have told the truth in that situation (if your WIFE didn't even know about your infidelity). It is LUDICROUS to compare Clinton's lie and the Bush administration lie, period.
3. Bush is not conservative! Hasn't vetoed a single spending bill, and offers tax cuts when the country is in debt; NOT conservative...
4. Kerry is weak - he was in NAM, that's good enough for me.
5. Kerry flip flops - I flip flopped as well. When Bush said we need to invade Iraq because they had WMDs, I (hippy liberal) actuall DEFENDED that action. I almost had to turn in my hippy ID card! Now, nothing's been found; no WMDs, no links to Al Quaida (sp?), nothing. You see, Kerry and myself were foolish enough to think that the Bush administration was being candid/honest with us. Now that we know it wasn't, please don't mind if we re-examine the correctness of the Iraq invasion. Man, if a mind can't change that's a good indication that it just don't work no more...
All Americans agree on this: terrorists must be wiped out pro-actively. The Bill of rights cannot be thrown in the toilet (Asscroft), or we ain't a 'Free' country. The UN is useless. Would be better if the candidates stressed what we have in common rather than what we all disagree on. If you can take one blessing from 9/11, it was that in the days/weeks/months following that event I felt like America was truly united. Republicans/Democrats/Independents/Greens - it didn't matter; we were all just 'american'. It felt good, I think the fight ahead demands we return to that...
my (more than) 2 cents. Apologies for the long-windedness of my post. God Bless America
Posted by: Leo at September 23, 2004 02:09 PM
Bush did not go AWOL, this is just left-wing rubbish.
2. "Kerry is weak" -this has nothing to do with him being in Nam, it has to do with the fact that Kerry was a leader in the nuclear freeze movement, is opposed to the death penalty. opposed Star Wars, opposed the Stealth Figther and Bomber, etc. Kerry is a liberal, there is no doubt about that. He is not a Clintonian Southern Democrat, who supports defense. He has opposed all uses of the US Military until the Second Gulf War, which he supported--and then opposed, sort of.
3. Bush is not conservative--Balanced budgets have been advocated by both parties for the better part of 30 years. Non sequitor
4) Some THINK Kerry lied about subtleties of a firefight on the
swiftboat-- I am agnostic on the subject. Obviously, you do not know the difference between a "lie" and having faulty information. John Kerry had the same information that Bush had--oh, wait, John Kerry WOULD HAVE had the same info. as Bush had if he had bothered to show up for his classified intelligence briefing which he did not. That is a matter of record.
5)"Kerry flip flops"--Only because he does. Bush gave multiple reasons for going into Iraq, one of which was stressed by the media. IE, WMD.
Despite your saying you are not a big John Kerry supporter, I can see why. You must find John Kerry too right-wing, probably more of a Howard Dean supporter. And America was united until the left-wingers began to read irrational and dubious motivation into the war in Iraq and began to compare Ashcroft to Hitler and such.
PS-Greens have never been part of mainstream America and have always had a disdain for American nationalism.
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 23, 2004 02:32 PM
1. The fact remains: Kerry was over their (Vietnam) getting shot at, Bush was not (no one has explained why). What did happen with Bush? I really would like to know...
2. If balanced budget is so important, can you explain to me why it is now so unbalanced, though Clinton left the current administration with surplus?
3. Kerry as leader of nuclear freeze movement: isn't that a good thing?
4. Lie vs. Faulty Information - I don't see this as an excuse in the least. I don't blame Bush as much as the neo-conservatives behind his administration working through him. Anyway, it's pretty obvious he/they are decieving us on purpose. They looked and they looked for concrete links between Al Quaida (our real enemy, lest we forget, the ones that killed all of those people here in the USA) and Iraq, but didn't find any! Bush's own commission substantiates this. What to do what to do. Here's an idea: we'll tell the american people that Saddam has WMDs. Then EVERYONE will support a pre-emptive invasion! Brilliant! It's really all so obvious I don't know how you guys have such a rosy picture of el prez.
But hey, what's done is done. We ARE in Iraq, and cannot leave now. I don't blame Bush for 9/11, and I supported going into Iraq based on the crap he told us (whether he believed it or not is irrelevant) during his State of the Union. Have no idea how ANY president is going to handle this going forward. Now if you excuse me, I have a love-in to attend... :)
Posted by: leo at September 23, 2004 03:15 PM
Do it like Hiroshima and this criminal and
sicknes of the islam will be gone ?
This is not Islam this is sick ,crazy matherfuckers..................................
we need kill them over there ,do not give chance
to make them to live this islamic call mudgahedin.
Posted by: Sean at September 23, 2004 03:23 PM
To Chris about civilians carrying weapons to protect themselves in Iraq: what good is a sidearm to protect you against RPGs and car bombings? Not sufficient protection, I think.
As for Leo's rants: we each believe the lies we want to believe. Personally, I don't care one iota about the American Presidential candidates Vietnam record. (I believe Kerry's campaign thinks they're running against Richard Nixon.) I don't believe a candidates military service qualifies anyone as presidential material. Unless the candidate was a General, with the associated LEADERSHIP qualities that being a General might indicate, just being a foot-soldier in the military, whether voluntary or not, proves to me no leadership capabilities. Sorry to all you ex-military out there, but taking orders from a CO does not mean you're qualified to be commander-in-chief. I doubt seriously that Bush, and any other president in the past 40 years, has been doing the strategic battlefield deployment planning in any struggle: he has hired guns to make those decisions for him. To me, Kerry and Bush are equally incompetent to lead troops into battle. But that's not the job that we pay them to do.
To all: this whole mentality of "No WMD were found, therefore Saddam was innocent" is bull. If Bush lead you to believe that's the only reason he invaded Iraq, you weren't paying attention. Was it an emotional ploy to get Congress' approval for going in? You bettya. It worked great, didn't it? I missed the certified independant report though that convinced everyone that Bush made this stuff up though. I'm sure one of you can point me to it. Bad Intel? I can believe that. But Bush lying just to dump a bunch of missles on Iraq, where did that story break?
Now here's where I'll piss you all off: Removing Saddam was a good thing based on his treatment of his own people. But, BUT, was he the only dictator in the world worthy of our military might? Hell no. There are others. But just cause there are others, and no other President before Bush wanted to take them on, doesn't mean taking this one on was the "wrong" thing to do. And no, before you jump all over me, I do not think that the "humanitarian condition" of innocent Iraqi's was the reason Bush went to war. It justifies the effort to me, though.
Someone earlier said that we didn't stand up and take notice until the terrorists hit our soil. Damn right. Look at the wimpy Presidents we had in office. I liked Clinton. I thought it was great that there was nothing more newsworthy than his blowjobs: it gave us in the USA the false sense that nothing "bad" was happening in the world. But most recent presidential terms under democrats have been that way. Anyone in the USA ever notice that foreign policy is all hugs-and-kisses under democrats? Then we put a republican in the office when we get sick of the non-handling of our poor domestic affairs, and our attention turns to some poor bully whose poisoning or bombing his own people on the other side of the world. The democratic "head in the sand" tricks make you all feel good, feel safe, but terrorists don't go away just because american attention turns inwards for 4 years. It sure didn't while Clinton passed up on chances to have un-manned drones take out Osama Bin Ladden cause he was "worried about re-election", even though Osama was known to be the source for previous terrorist attacks against American interests that killed many Americans.
So we're all faced with picking one jackass or the other. One represents ignoring problems in hopes they go away. The other platform rejects ignorance as a tolerable stance and attempts to do something about it: right or wrong. Bush and Kerry have as their least common denominator the fact that they are both politicians. We all know what politicians are trained to do best: LIE. Isn't that the definition of a politician? Pick your poison, pick your lier.
When I used to tell my dad I was afraid I couldn't do something as a kid: "You'll never know if you don't try". If you are the parent or relative of someone serving in the USA military right now, tell me that they didn't VOLUNTEER to serve their country because they wanted to try, try to make a difference.
And to think, when I started reading this blog, I was on the fence between Kerry and Bush. I was thinking that maybe it would be good to see nothing on the news except for President Kerry's infidelities, and his wife's affair with the tennis instructor. Damn the rest of the world: let them sort their own troubles out. But after posts like LEO's I realize just how foolish I had become. Thanks to all you Kerry "extremists" for waking me up.
Posted by: DB at September 23, 2004 03:49 PM
I feel it is a bad idea to elect a president who wants other nations to take over what we have begun. Ya Mr. Kerry, lets call the French in and see if they can train us. BAH !!
I would rather have a president who is commited to resolving the war and maybe fixing mistakes his ex-intelligence officer gave him than have a 70 peace movement hippy running our government.
Posted by: Andrew at September 23, 2004 04:11 PM
"For starters, having a just war against militant Islam means there must be some clear, comprehensible nexus between the operations of militant Islam and the opening of any front in the war. Afghanistan was an easy case — so manifest no effort was required to make it: The al Qaeda network orchestrated the 9/11 attacks (as well as others) and Afghanistan was where al Qaeda was given safe harbor. Q.E.D.
Iraq, on the other hand, was a tough case — as the cases against the worst bad guys usually are. Senator Kerry's "diversion" argument is wrong because there was a rich connection between Saddam Hussein's heinous regime and militant Islam — which fully explains why al Qaeda and its affiliated groups were in such a superb position to align with their Baathist confederates and spearhead the vigorous resistance still confronting our forces."
Posted by: DB at September 23, 2004 04:46 PM
If you don't support this war against terror, and feel offended because el Pres didn't ask for you support personally, that's your choice. But much of the rest of the USA is going to support it nonetheless as they feel it's got to be done, for the long term, to prevent militant extremists from achieving their ultimate goal. Man, if that's not defending your country against evil, I don't know what is.
Posted by: DB at September 23, 2004 04:55 PM
What is interesting is that we generally agree or are misunderstanding each other (given your post);
I didn't say that military service made someone a better leader; I violently agree with your entire first paragraph! Bush is the one who brought up the military service records. The record comparison seeks to gauge the integrity of the individuals; as I said, Kerry was in Nam, Bush was (fill in the blank)?
To say "no WMDs were found so Saddam is innocent" is ludicrous, and I violently agree again. However, no independent study on Bush making stuff up is needed; WE FOUND NOTHING. Unfortunate, but true nevertheless...
your 'this is where I'll piss everyone off' paragraph does no such thing. The paragraph is an extended statement of the obvious. However, you take a (large) leap from fighting terrorists (avenging/preventing 9/11)', to "now we're going to go around the world saving people from bully dictators" Hey, it's a noble idea, and I'll even give Bush the benefit of the doubt and assume that were horrible atrocities going on somewhere in, say, Africa, he would have done the same thing (!), but this noble idea is really not the task at hand (which is destroying terrorism). Who the hell honestly thinks Saddam was a good guy? We agree.
And for the record: do you guys watch the news? Clinton was 'this' close to peace in the middle east (remember the amazing shot of Rabin and Arafat shaking hands?). Are you also aware that Clinton made terrorism a priority (spent WAY more time on it then Bush did pre- 9/11) and that Rumsfeld was in the process of dismantling the military whey 9/11 occurred?
Andrew: I'll take the French ponying up some bodies to save americans any day of the year! Don't you guys all hate the french?
Posted by: leo at September 23, 2004 05:01 PM
On WMDs and Saddam's innocence, I incorrectly implied that you inferred he was. Sorry, been reading through alot of these posts and have read some (from others, apparently) who drew that correlation, so I must have lumped you in with the rest who think that because we didn't find WMDs, we had no justification to invade Iraq (because I assume they have decided that's where the line is drawn: WMD's - OK to invade, NO WMDs - Poor innocent country we invaded.
No, we all know Bush won't invade an African country to overthrow a bully dictator: there's no political agenda there to satisfy. The West has been hell-bent on establishing a viable democracy in the Arab world since the establishment of Israel. Yeah, we've all seen how well that one has gone, haven't we.
And no, I'm not familiar with the "priority" that Clinton made of terrorism. Guess I missed that one. I've only been familiar with his failures, which in hind-sight, cost the US 3000 lives: the one event that woke a sleeping giant. And if Rumsfeld was dismantling the military on 9/11, wouldn't that seem to contractict the opinions of some on these posts that Bush was wanting to invade Iraq (for Daddy's sake) since the day he took office? Why would he be downsizing the military if his intention was to jump back into the lion's den?
And I suppose there are those conspiracy theorists out there that would probably be saying that the Republicans paid Osama to commit the attrocities on 9/11 to turn congressional spending around on the military. Now, THAT, would be a scandal that would make us all forget about Monica Lewinsky!
Posted by: DB at September 23, 2004 05:39 PM
Being in Nam 4 months does not a president make. If it did we would be saying this about President McCain. He would have taken Gore last election not Bush.
It would not be the French putting bodies in it would be them taking an active role in training. It would be them taking part in the countries income and democracy. Ya, lets let them... they have been very helpfull. They have voted against us in every action at the U.N since Sept 11th. And you think it would be nice to have this help from them. BAH
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Posted by: ANSAR AL ISLAM at September 23, 2004 07:41 PM
God Bless all who seek freedom for those without access to it
Posted by: eric (swede78) at September 23, 2004 07:45 PM
THANK YOU! I AGREE. FIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS FIGHT!
AS JIMMY V ONCE SAID..."DON'T GIVE UP, DON'T EVER GIVE UP".
FYI - I DO THINK THERE IS SIGNIFICANT EDITING OCCURING ON THESE TAPES. I HEARD THE PIG NOISE TOO AND IT STUCK WITH ME. I'M NOT BUYING IT! I THINK THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE BEHEADED, AND MAYBE THEY DID FIGHT, BUT WE'LL NEVER KNOW - THANKS TO AMERICAN INNOVATION, CREATIVITY, AND BRILLIANCE OUR OWN GREAT TECHNOLOGY WAS USED TO HURT US AND SCHOCK US. YEAH, I WAS SHOCKED, BUT I'M GETTING NUMB REAL QUICK. SOONER OR LATER IT WILL BE LIKE WATCHING THE LOCAL NEWS ABOUT ANOTHER DRIVE BY SHOOTING - HO HUM! CLICK! CLICK! WHAT ELSE IS ON!
Posted by: IMGONNAKNOCKYOUOUT at September 23, 2004 09:53 PM
Posted by: Hannibal at September 24, 2004 01:14 AM
And Muslims... Islam was founded by a child molesting pig fucker. The muslim of today is the spawn of this pig and satan. They have proven for thousands of years that they WILL not CAN not live in peace with ANYONE! They all need to be wiped from the face of this earth, and dont give me the lame ass excuse of oh look at the KKK and their beliefs on christianity. No comparison! Islam IS murder Islam IS death and bloodshed. Islam is the product of the union between a pig and satan. Those 2 Iraqi women should be raped by two swine on tape be forced to eat their feces then fed to wild boars. Post the tape on the net.
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Posted by: OneTwoThree at September 24, 2004 09:23 AM
What amazes me is that there are still Americans back home who believe that the war was launched to eradicate terrorists and not purely for Oil!
You ought to watch Michael Moore's film to understand the whole propoganda.
Posted by: OneTwoThree at September 24, 2004 09:35 AM
The only way to defeat a person who believes they are fighting for GOD is to get them to GOD quickly. Stop blaming America for the bad things that happen to us. We did nothing to start this war, but most certainly will finish it.
Posted by: John at September 24, 2004 11:05 AM
Why dont the Islamic people speak up.
Or do they all go along with this beheading?
Posted by: Irene at September 24, 2004 12:26 PM
Posted by: leo at September 24, 2004 12:58 PM
I was very disturbed after my first viewing of a beheading too. I didn't think I could watch another, but I did. Nightmares haven't occurred yet: I was afraid they would. But I'm dealing with it, with anger and disgust and resentment for those responsible (the terrorists, not Bush). They show these videos in the Muslim world and they rejoice. Ironically, the same presentations to me, and many others from what I gather on this blog, is that we're willing to risk more to bring an end to these animals.
Anyone who can behead two women hostages who were in Iraq BEFORE the war, working to lift UN sanctions and bring a better life to the Muslims in that country, all in the name of their Quran, obviously doesn't see the irony of what they're doing, and the negative results this is going to bring against their cause.
Posted by: DB at September 24, 2004 01:45 PM
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford, owner of this blog at September 24, 2004 02:29 PM
I really don't know much about these people, their religion and their convictions. But I a pretty damn sure of one thing...there is not a God anywhere that will condone the senseless killing of innocent people. Why don't these cowards go out and fight on the front lines, to take on who they really want to hurt, not hide behind masks and videos of helpless bound prisoners. I'm sure that they believe that if they participate in one of these killings that they will be saved and glorified by their God.
I have an idea. Why doesn't the government take every person that enters into the country of Iraq, whether civilian or military and tag them with a GPU chip, which would be under the skin somewhere on the body. (They are already proposing this on children here in the states). If they did this to all visiting civilian and military personnel, then they could track them down, right to the exact position of these fucking assholes. Then we should go in a make Abu Musab al Zarqawi tape himself beheading all of his henchmen and then we can imprison him in general population at a local prison and let the locals have there way with him.
I have one theory that is helping me sleep at night, with regards to the beheaded. I do believe that they are drugged. I feel that if they did have their complete wits about them, that regardless of any threats that their captures may make to them, if they do yell out during their speech…they would yell out and plead or send a message of love to their families regardless…what do they have to loose, they are already going to loose their lives. That’s my theory, and it helps me to know that they may be suffering during their execution, but not by much….I sure as hell hope.
Posted by: Kirk at September 24, 2004 03:38 PM
Posted by: Noah Schmidt at September 24, 2004 03:52 PM
Posted by: Gazea at September 24, 2004 03:56 PM
We must remember though that these monsters do not represent the Muslim people. They do not represent all of the Iraqi people either. They are a breed of something too disgusting to mention. As Americans we would not want other countries thinking that we are all like Charles Mansion. Hitler did not represent all Germans. It bothers me that Andrea posted a comment stating that we should kill all Muslims we see walking the streets. That is horrible and it would not make a difference. Those terrorists do not care one thing about human life. They prove that by what they do.
Zarquawi needs to be caught and photographed naked (since they are horrified of that) and then beheaded and the video should be shown worldwide.
We must be careful to put the blame where it belongs...on the terrorists...not the innocent people who came to this country to get away from monsters like that.
Posted by: Robin at September 24, 2004 04:03 PM
Only 2% of any population of people are born with a mental illness that will make them capable of feeling no-emotion when hurting another human being. This disease is commonly known as psychopathy (though this term is probably being phased out). You see, all human beings are born with an innate sense of empathy that culture has a difficult time overcoming. It turns out that NO-ONE likes to hurt another human being without cause, and it just so happens that their is generally a steep psychological cost for harming someone even with motive. This is even true of soilders. In a US Army study during WWII less than half of front line fighters actually fired their weapons. Don't believe me; refer to David Grossman's (Westpoint professor of psychology, career Army man) book "On Killing." The army found that through better training techniques the number of men firing their rifles surpased 50 percent during the Korean war; in the Vietnam conflict over 70%. True to the idea that only a sickly 2% of people can kill without psychological harm, each of these wars saw a progressively higher, and quite problematic incidence of with post traumatic stress disorder among psychologically normal veterens.
My sub-point is, religion when tweaked certain ways may lesson the guilt of killing, but it does not create killers because it takes so much and is so costly to kill another human. What does inspire systematic murder is a population with a strong community fiber that endures grievences, or a military that is classically conditioned (like ours) to kill.
Now, consider the following from the Washington Post:
"There has been terrorism in the world, more or less nonstop, since 12th
century Syria, when a persecuted Persian religious sect called the
Assassins knifed people to death in crowds. Terrorism has persisted
bedcdause terrorism works. It makes people crazy. It is a cost-effective
method of waging psychological war by those who see themselves outnumbered
A disenfranchised minority cannot sack Rome, conquer Nanking, burn Atlanta
or firebomb Dresden. These acts are terror attacks by nations, military
sieges with the primary goal of sowing despair among the enemy and
weakening their goal to resist. A disenfranchised people- wheather
Palestinians in the Middle East, or Catholics in Northern Ireland, or
Islamic zealots who see the spread of Western culture as an assult on
their religion- will use the means at their disposal. Amoral though it
may be, terrorism succeeds in focusing attention on whatever cause its
Consider the implications of "use whatever means at their disposal." These men chose barbaric means because they were at their disposal and effective in gathering attention. This is a war, I'm sure they would've chosen a MOAB like so many on this page seem to favor, if they were so disposed. A captured terrorist in the movie the "Battle of Algiers" puts it nicely when asked by a military tribunal how he can live with himself for planning bombings of cafes, using women who carry bombs in wicker baskets "Ahhhh. I'm very sorry to have offended your people with the manner in which my resistence movement attacked. We can make a deal: you give us your airplanes, and we'll give you our wicker baskets."
In concurrence with my first point that these men are not out of their minds so much as they are driven by religion, grievences, their like minded comrades; and also remembering they don't have the "civilized" means to wage a war (a standing army, tanks, etc), my final point is that terrorists are regular people driven to the edge. Consider Arnold's posting on Sept. 22. I'm sure Arnold is a normal guy, with reasonable religious and political beliefs, yet he is whipped into a fervor when someone he doesn't know but is tied to through country and religion is murdered. This inspires Arnold (and many more of you on this page) to write in hope of some murderous and sadistic retribution to the entire population of the second largest religious community in the world... Kinda sounds like muslim extremist bombast if you extrapolate just a few names doesn't it?
Posted by: Luc Dawg at September 24, 2004 05:57 PM
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Posted by: Noah Schmidt at September 24, 2004 06:54 PM
Why don't the Muslims in the USA start screaming for them to stop and take our side vocally? That is what bothers me the most. Everyone gets upset because some Iraqi prisoners were naked with panties on their heads....but this...no one cries out. And I was just reading about the torture and rape of the many teen girls in that Russian School...Putin needs to declare war on these terrorists also..."whereever they are..whoever harbors them ..we will find you and hunt you down. That should be the battlecry of every nation that these thugs have wrought havoc on.
Posted by: gage at September 24, 2004 07:36 PM
Posted by: masteranchor at September 24, 2004 08:13 PM
But how many nations have gotten involved in the affairs of other countries for the purpose of FREEING their people from oppression, dictatorship and murderous regimes? Precious few, and by far the most frequent has been our own country, the United States of America. Have we made some mistakes? Sure - anyone out there who can honestly say they HAVEN'T? Has our help ALWAYS had the intended effect? Looking at Viet Nam and Bosnia, guess not. But my question is, if WE (the USA) don't stand up for people who are oppressed, whatever the cost, WHO will pick up the banner? Does anyone out there REALLY believe the lies that our involvement in Iraq is 'just for the oil', or that 'Halliburton didn't have enough business' or some other political fabrication that left-wing extremists are trying to chant until we finally go into a trance or something like that? The USA has done more GOOD things for more unfortunate nations around the world than the UN and all other countries COMBINED have ever thought about doing, (check the record) but there are some people whose only motivation is political gain & self-promotion who seem to think that their life's purpose is to run down, weaken and verbally berate this country and everyone in it who doesn't agree with THEM, starting with any 'principled' leader that serves in its government. To those people, I can only say, 'You can start thanking GOD now (the REAL, live, LOVING GOD that is) that you are in a country that even ALLOWS you to say what you say, and thank the Americans who were willing to die to afford you that privilege, their ingenuity which made it possible for you to post your complaints on the internet and countless other mediums, and the goodness GOD has put in the hearts of our leaders, who have freed literally MILLIONS of oppressed people around the world from ruthless, vicious dictators (who take PLEASURE in things like beheadings), and remember also that the Afghani and Iraqi people are RIGHT NOW thanking America for giving THEM a shot at some of what we so blithely take for granted' (warts and all).
If you agree with the aforesaid, you know why - if you don't and are getting ready to 'flame' me 'cuz you disagree - thank you for making my point! :)
Thanks for taking a few moments of your time to read this. I remain a proud and grateful American, who loves his country, and is proud of its heritage, and its foundation of goodness to others and freedom for all. And I also remain MORE resolved and committed to the defeat of terrorists worldwide than ever, whether they wear the title of 'President' (like Hussein), or 'insurgent' (like Zarkhawi). To me, no matter what his station in life, a terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist, and if their intent is malicious toward ANY innocent human being, they NEED to be brought to justice, whether it be in a court, at the barrel of an M16, or the result of an airstrike! Those whose blatant disregard for the sanctity of human life has made them do things like Hussein & his family did, and what these snivelling, sneaking, black-garbed COWARDS are doing don't deserve to live in this world, and since they proclaim to be so willing to 'die for their god', I think our brave military needs to help 'arrange the meeting', as Gen. Schwartzkoff once said . . .
Posted by: TerminalReminder at September 24, 2004 09:22 PM
Nobody deserves to die like this...
Posted by: Tania at September 24, 2004 09:34 PM
Posted by: patriot at September 24, 2004 09:43 PM
Posted by: masteranchor at September 24, 2004 08:13 PM
The government can trace these monsters because the videos are first appearing on Islamic websites. The cold, hard fact is, they don’t want to. (Not yet anyways) I'm sorry to say it but I think we all know that its true. Example: How is it that every time a major computer virus released upon the web that cripples cpu's everywhere and costs businesses millions of dollars only takes a week to trace all the way back to the originating ip address it came from? That ip ends up being linked to some kid who is an I.T. student in Malaysia or Michigan or wherever. I believe the last one only took a whole week to trace, and that was after having to sort and backtrack through millions of ip's to find the originator.
Fact: Each website has an IP that never changes. Day in, day out, it stays the same. They know the website addresses that these monsters post their vile videos to. What's so difficult about linking the website’s IP address to it's owner? NOTHING! If you were to make a threat on the president’s life inside this blog, WHICH I AM MOST CERTAINLY NOT so dont come knocking my door down in the a.m., how long do you think it would take the secret service to be at your front door to interrogate the hell out of you? Would you need to post your name, address, phone number in the threat for them to find you? No, of course not. They would find you through your IP and get your personal info through your internet service provider who assigned you that IP address.
So, you might be asking, why don’t they go get these terrorists if they're so easily traceable? Because the U.S knows, but they won’t state publicly, that MOST, and I do mean MOST, middle easterners absolutely hate Americans. Take a look at photos of buildings in Iran with murals of burning US flags painted on the side of them. Read the writing on the side of their rocket launchers (they actually print it in English so we can clearly read their hate) One I saw the other day said, "We will crush America under our feet." Nice huh? Is that hate limited to Iran? YEAH RIGHT! It is alive and well in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia— Do I really need to go on listing and citing because there are many more? Middle Easterners have been spoon-fed hate propaganda by their own government towards the United States for their entire lives. They truly believe we are the white devil from the west. They (middle eastern governments) oppress their own people financially but build them up spiritually. To counter civilian jealousy of Americans appearing so happy and living so prosperously, they condemn our lifestyles and morals and preach of how NONE of us will ever see the gates of heaven. Why do you think it is so hard to get Bin Laden even with the GIGANTIC bounty on his head? They don’t want the “Devils” money. They truly believe the spiritual propaganda that has been pumped into them by their leaders regarding The West.
These terrorist monsters are those people’s heros. The terrorists proclaim Jihad and murder in the name of Allah, but more and more, I am starting to believe they murder for celebrity and nothing more. If the terrorists were not being supported by the people of Iraq and all surrounding countries, how on earth would they be able to function freely without being turned in by their neighbors and the people of their communities. If a crack dealer moved in next door to me, I would report his activities to the authorities. Why? Because I am not a drug addict and I refuse to support anyone who either deals or uses illegal drugs in my neighborhood. Get my drift. These terrorists have plenty of support from ALL of their neighbors.
Unfortunately, if we kill Zarqawi and his band of thugs now, it would undoubtedly incite even more violence in the streets of Iraq and elsewhere in retaliation. Remember, on that side of the world, there will always be someone to take the place of the barbaric void left by whoever the people believed to be a martyr. That would just leave us with someone else to have to deal with. For the U.S. and Britain, the murdering of civilians by these barbarians is a simple game of numbers: Collateral damage. I’m not saying that our government isn’t infuriated by these acts and that they won’t eventually kill these monsters, but I truly believe they will do it when the job in Iraq is done and the soldiers are on their way back home. Killing them now would only further the risk of the lives of our soldiers because heavy and constant retaliation from these animal’s supporters, which is obviously a large number because, as usual with that side of the world, no one is willing to turn in their terrorist neighbor, would ensue.
Whether it is sooner or later, these scumbags will be dealt with by our government. Those innocent contractors unnecessary murder will be avenged. R.I.P. my friends. I personally will never forget you and what you had to endure.
Good luck coalition soldiers and may God protect you and our contractors. Come home soon.
Posted by: Chris at September 25, 2004 12:30 AM
I don't get it. Don't these people have families? Do they even know what it feels like to love someone? If, their lives have been so destitute why hasn't it taught them compassion and/or empathy. Don't they want to live happy peaceful lives with their love ones?
I can almost understand psychopaths and why they do what they do without any remorse or feelings. Psychopaths usually commit their crimes alone and at times you might find 2 to 3 nuts jobs committing brutal crimes together. The people committing these horrendous brutal murders are in groups of 5 to 6 people. These people are not psychopaths ... it goes way beyond that.
We are all human beings. What could possibly make these people commit so heartless. What is it that makes the majority of people in our type of society seem so much more loving and compassionate? You would think people that live the way most Americans live would be more self-centered and less caring...but it isn't the case.
These people must be brainwashed, drugged, threatened, something...to partipate and brutally behead innocent people...and, some pleading for there lives.
I wonder if these people, their families, and generations of children being taught of such hatred, since birth, can ever be rehabilitated to a point where they could actually live in any kind of civil society governed by rules,laws, and punishment!
I was all for this war but I wonder can we ever succeed at ever bringing peace and civilization to a country with so many people with minds this warped and so far gone.
Posted by: Coleen at September 25, 2004 03:54 AM
I think we did a great job, militarily, of going into Iraq. In fact never before was such a war fought with so few casualties and such precision. I think where we've failed since is we are too nice! We should have established martial law, brought in enough troops to secure the borders, and went house to house capturing and confiscating all weapons. We should have established strict curfews and anyone seen or caught with a weapon should have been shot on sight! By doing this I believe we would have had a lot less terrorists actions and violence to deal with, and could have set about rebuilding the country a lot quicker, with a lot less hassle, and expense. I beleive it also would have given Iraq a better chance to hire, train, and develope it's own police and military forces.
I also think they need to start some serious educational programs, in their schools and in their homes to teach more civilized thinking and premote love of life and living.
When the WORLD population finally becomes good and sick of terrorists and terrorism, then it will be erradicated. Currently, with the way we and others nicely dance around it, it will only be a series of one attack after another for sometime to come unfortunately.
Posted by: just another opinion at September 25, 2004 07:53 AM
Seeking revenge upon Muslims? Please! How is that different from seeking revenge upon innocent Americans for what the American troops are doing to your country? (if someone bombs your house and kills your wife and children, you simply do not CARE what their political agenda is, you simply start HATING them with a passion)
If this is the typical Bush voter's opinion, the rest of the world was needlessly afraid. I'd be surprised if they all find their way to the voting office without help.
The answer, you say, is more hatred? More aggression? More suffering? You have learned nothing over the centuries, humanity. Christ has tried to teach you, Buddha has tried to teach you, Muhammed has tried to teach you, even Ghandi has tried to teach you, and you have not learned. Perhaps, this is your just reward. People killing people like animals, with no regard for life whatsoever.
Posted by: Eurosteph at September 25, 2004 08:48 AM
I've read a few times in this forum comparing them to animals......animals don't do that shit to each other.
I'm ashamed of what we are capable of doing....we all need to be wiped out
Posted by: Subrosa at September 25, 2004 10:43 AM
Posted by: Mike at September 25, 2004 12:56 PM
"NUKE IT & PAVE IT"
Posted by: Emma at September 25, 2004 01:09 PM
Posted by: Emad at September 25, 2004 02:21 PM
Posted by: Allan Woodward UK at September 25, 2004 06:09 PM
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Posted by: fuckiraq at September 26, 2004 09:18 AM
1- Why USA sent its army to Iraq? is it because of mass distruction weapons? where are they???
2- Let us have a look at the action before evaluating the reaction. Look at Abu-Ghraib and ask if the iraqi society loves USA or not.
3- How many people in iraq have been killed since the occupation of iraq? more than 15000 people.
Posted by: nasser at September 26, 2004 04:34 PM
I'm not a bush fan, nor am I a kerry fan, (I am too young for that stuff anyways.)It's not Bush's fault.
These people did this to piss us off, and they succeeded...
I think we should just nuke them....we can live with a hole in the world.
I don't agree with them beheading these INNOCENT men and women if the reports are right.
I say we break a long-neck bottle, and cut THEIR heads off, and then broadcast it on the internet.
These Bastards deserve to freaking DIE A SLOW PAINFUL DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this Allah shit, wtf is this?
Allah is the god of peace?????
Is beheading people peaceful?
I just thought I'd put my 2 cent's in.
You needn't agree with me, I don't care if you agree or not...I'm stating my opinion.
Posted by: Tim R. at September 27, 2004 01:10 AM
Im in the UK and to think this goes on is a hard image to shift.
PLEASE GOD DON'T LET THIS CARRY ON...
NOBODY DESERVES THIS..
Posted by: John Wright at September 27, 2004 01:16 AM
I`m muslim and hate terror, killing innocent people and at the other side to be under military occupation.
1- Why USA sent its army to Iraq? is it because of mass distruction weapons? where are they???
How many of you have blindly followed the radicals of your countries and religions and then helped hide the weapons that Iraq was developing?
2- Let us have a look at the action before evaluating the reaction. Look at Abu-Ghraib and ask if the iraqi society loves USA or not.
Who cares if you love us or not? Bush promised the Iraqi people that once Saddam was deposed - he would not leave them to the tender mercies of the remaining muslim terrorists. Bush, if nothing else is a man of his word!
3- How many people in iraq have been killed since the occupation of iraq? more than 15000 people.
How many of those 15000 killed were a result of their own country's religious terrorists?
This killing and then advertising the deaths is an abomination.
Personally, I thought they should have blown that sand pit to smithereens the first time we were there - we would not be having this problem now.
My father fought for his country. He feels just as strongly about this war - and I agree with him.
My prayers go out to all the families of the terror victims.
Posted by: Mel at September 27, 2004 01:27 AM
I'm intrigued by the suggestion that these cowards are suffering from a third world mentality. It does make sense - no one who has any regard for life, including their own, could do this; therefore they must perceive their own lives as so worthless that they believe everyone's is. I have to admit, though, I prefer the psychopath theory...and I really believe it to be the more accurate one. These are unspeakable acts and while it may be true that these things have gone on for centuries, the technology that now brings it into my living room renders me unable to accept it as a fact of life. I will fervently support Bush when he refers to these men as "evil" because that's what they are. I also know they will get theirs in the end. It may be wrong of me to say this, but I hope they see it coming.
Posted by: BDH at September 27, 2004 10:52 PM
I think it is wrong to politicize 9/11, and say it was one party's fault of the other. It was terrorists fault.
Posted by: Leo Greene at September 28, 2004 01:53 PM
Posted by: The Independent Man at September 29, 2004 09:52 AM
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Posted by: Frankie at September 30, 2004 05:18 AM
Let them go back to slaughtering women, babes and cutting each other heads off so they can play stick ball in the sand with them. Savages one and all.
Every terroritst should have his mouth crammed with putrid pork so that they will choke to death. Allah will not accept the unclean into Paradise.
Posted by: Clontarf at September 30, 2004 08:26 AM
Posted by: dave from Scotland at September 30, 2004 08:37 AM
The Iraqis are doing nothing - not one damn thing to stop this violence. They want their freedom, but they don't want to lift a finger to get it.
Political correctness - screw it! It's day has come and gone.
The people of this world should NOT have to live in fear. This is ridiculous. If the Iraqis aren't willing to snuff out these scum, then so be it. We'll have to bomb your country into oblivion to get rid of them.
I want to know where is the muslim outrage??? Where are the protests???? Has anybody witnessed any because I sure haven't. Their silence speaks volumes. They certainly know how to protest when they claim their civil rights are being violated.
I don't like them in my country either. I don't trust them - especially because of their silence. And I hate them because they treat their women like dirt. Shame on muslim women for allowing it. If you come into this country, then live the GOD given freedoms you have - otherwise go home!
Take your freakish ways elsewhere - they aren't wanted here. If you want to stay, then get off your asses and PROTEST against your brothers and sisters for the torture they continue to inflict on thousands around the world.
Oh - and FUC_ allah and the pork he rode in on!
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND EVERY ONE OF OUR SOLDIERS!
Posted by: Beth at September 30, 2004 06:14 PM
Posted by: dan at September 30, 2004 08:23 PM
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Posted by: krazzy at October 02, 2004 12:31 PM
Posted by: krazzy at October 02, 2004 12:38 PM
moslems are weak pussies
islam is a lie
allah mother was fucked by a horse
america will survive
freedom will prevail
death to terrorists and allah
Posted by: white at October 02, 2004 02:10 PM
Posted by: banana at October 02, 2004 02:18 PM
Psalms 37:10&11. This system of things is a mess worldwide because we are living in the last days. All of this is supposed to happen just like the days of Noah as the bible says and no one took no note until the end came and swept them all away. 2 Timothy 3:1-7 1 John 5:19. Mathew 24:1-8. Psalms 83:18.
Posted by: Sherrie at October 03, 2004 03:15 AM
As soon as we give in to the terrorists
it will become wold wide !
Look the men have to die so what
Islam and all other religons are just crap
"a compleate load of toss"
come on pepole grow up !
Just put all of the islam's on a remote desert island and drop 1 big ICBM NUKE Problem solved!
Posted by: Lee at October 03, 2004 08:24 AM
Posted by: anon. at October 03, 2004 02:24 PM
Secondly, I hope that bush loses the election by a landslide so that he doesn't get a chance to pull any crap like in the 2000 election. Bush and Cheney are both losers and the proof is Iraq. There has not been much good coming out of Iraq because the main architects of the Iraq policy did not plan for what would happen after the war was won.
They did not and have not secured the country. They allowed foreign interventionists to enter through, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Iran. They got Saddam (finally) but not his leadership and followers. The Baathists have not given up.
Surely some of the insurgents in Iraq are Iraqis, but many are not. They incite Iraqis and even force them to fight against the Americans. I blame Bush for allowing this to happen. He didn't put enough troops in Iraq to get the job done. They had enough manpower to protect the oil ministry building but not enough to protect the borders and prevent infiltration of these terrorists. Now more than 1050 American men and women are dead.
Many people on this blog have said that they want to "bomb Iraq into a parkinglot", to "kill all the ragheads, "nuke em," etc. The average Iraqi is not killing Americans. It is the Arab terrorists (from outside of Iraq) that are doing the majority of the killing. (Example: Al Zarqawi is Jordanian, not Iraqi)That is not to say that there aren't some Iraqis involved, but who is leading them?
I think that what has been happening in the last couple of days is the correct way to handle the situation. Sending in overwhelming force will drive out or kill the insurgents. Then let the Iraqi security forces take over from there. Of course you have to have them trained which is another failure of the Bush plan. (Bush bragged in the first debate with Kerry that they have been trained which is not true. (What, another lie? Not quite true, They have had 3 weeks of training...)
You are going to continue to see these terrible acts of barbarism (beheadings) until Iraq is secure and free of these Arab terrorists from outside of Iraq. Until Bush allows the military to go in and do what the military has to do to end this situation, the civilian abductions will continue and the soldiers will continue to be killed one or two at a time on a daily basis. I don't know why that hasn't happened. I would like Bush to explain why he is let this thing drag on and on. Maybe there is a profit to be made by keeping this going??? Halliburton, Bechtel??? Or maybe Bush is like his Dad and can't finish what he starts. At least George Senior didn't tell the military its business but when he did, he screwed up.
I don't believe that Kerry would do what some of you contend. I think he understands that you can't coddle these fanatics. I think he stand s a much better chance than George Bush of getting the Europeans to do there part in the fight against terrorism (All due respect to those countries already helping us in Iraq and Afghanistan) After all, it is in everyone's best interest to fight terrorism and particularly Al Qaeda.
While I think the French and the Germans were wrong to fight so hard against America, George Bush was also wrong to go into Iraq when he did. Afghanistan was the target and should have stayed the target. Now there is something of a mess in both places (again, very poor leadership by the Bush/Cheney administration) Where did these Arab fighters come from that are in Iraq? They came from Afghanistan in many cases, by way of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran and Jordan.
There are not enough American troops to fight two wars and have a credible presence in the rest of the world as well. Now at the height of danger in North Korea what does Bush do? He starts yanking troops out of the South. He has exhausted the reserves and the National Guard, and enlistment numbers are way down for the NG. I wonder why...? These men and women join to protect the country, in their communities, not to be dragged away from their jobs that pay their bills or to be made to serve long tours of duty in foreign lands while their families do without at home. Both John Dean and John Kerry have a valid argument about a "back door draft"
Bush says he isn't for a draft. (I wonder if the election has anything to do with that?)
I think that Bush is lost and doesn't know what he needs to do. I don't know if Kerry will be any better but I have seen what Bush has to offer and I am not impressed at all. It is one thing to beat your chest and say "you are either with us or you're against us", but quite another to fight two wars and win. Now he is having to go to the UN and ask for help. After doing what he has done to drive off our usual allies, does he really think there will be any more help?
You can vote for whom ever you choose, and say whatever you'd like but I don't see how we can afford to have the Bush adminstration for four more years...
Posted by: rick at October 04, 2004 02:10 AM
I have been seeing pictures and images of children and women being killed by airstrikes, supposed to hit the 'terrorists'! Yet, nobody cares!
Where is the justice?
We have been studying about history that any occupied nation has the full right to defend its country from the outsiders. Those who defended their lands were considered to be heros. Now they are considered to be terrorists!
Yes, Killing innocent people is disgusting and not accepted in any law or religion, but people forget whom the real murderer is.
The war started without a real justification, but based on speculations and lies. Yes Saddam deserved to be punished for his murderes against his people and other nations, but this was not the justification of the war.
The justification was basically a BIG LIE.
Wakeup people, and be fair in your judgments.
I feel sorry for the victimes of this barbaric war.
An amazed man!
Posted by: Amazed at October 04, 2004 11:34 AM
Love to ALL living beeings,
OM MANI PEME HUNG
Posted by: karmapa at October 04, 2004 01:21 PM
Go rent the video 'Faces of Death IV' if watching people get snuffed turns you on...
Posted by: Leo at October 04, 2004 01:55 PM
The people who are doing this are using this to cause fear and that is palpable in the comments made on this and other blogs. It is having the desired effect. However it is equally obvious that it is causing much hatred of the Islamic faith in general and in particular hatred of these terrorists. In the end they are not going to make the American Army or Coalition forces, if you will, withdraw from Iraq. Americans in particular become emboldened by such treachery. The more we are shown this, I believe, the stronger the response will be against it. This is evidenced by the recent attacks on Sammarah (SIC?)
I think that you are mistaken. The people who are doing the beheadings (al-Zarkawi and al Qaeda) are not Iraqi nationals they are Arabs from Afghanistan, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran. They have infiltrated Iraq with the notion solely to kill westerners. If they cannot do it in Iraq then they will do it in almost any western country. They are raised to this purpose and have no qualms about killing because they are indoctrinated from a very early age and trained all of their lives to extinguish the life of all "non-believers." They place no value on human life, including your own.
I too am against the bloody war that kills innocent people. I was against going into Iraq when Bush decided to go and I am against the war now. I am glad that Saddam is paying the price for his crimes against humanity. But many others are paying for his crimes as well who had nothing to do with his cruel reign.
Posted by: Rick at October 04, 2004 07:51 PM
I would like to hear your views if you’re not a closed minded arrogant person that thinks that they are the Giant Green Gods who are walking the earth with guns.
Posted by: Think Before YOU SPEAK at October 05, 2004 08:47 AM
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Posted by: nicole at October 08, 2004 10:31 AM
You are right about the people who are currently in control of this country. They are egomaniacal bastards, looking only to line their pockets and serve their own personal interests. But I am here, I am in America, and I have seen the demonstrations against the war. Most people did not want to go there and the only reason that the majority of the supporters of the war ever supported it was because they honestly believed what their president told them. They believed that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and they were scared. The truth is George Bush took advantage of a crisis in this country to wage his pet war and there are a lot of people here who are very angry about this.
I hate the stereotypical American attitude of "we are the best." Its shit and I know it. It also blinds us as a people to the fact that every empire falls, and with that attitude we have become an empire. Someday our empire will fall and no one will see it coming. Then we will be the beggars in a world that we have taught to hate us. May the world have the mercy on us that this country never had on them. I am with you, but no innocents deserve torture.
Posted by: nicole at October 08, 2004 11:05 AM
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Posted by: bid flish at October 08, 2004 04:47 PM
(iraqbodycount.net) - far more horrific than these
Posted by: Pepe le pew at October 08, 2004 09:35 PM
they worship Christ, Allah, Buddah, Mohhamed, or
whatever. But "all" religions have their "10%",
who claim to be ardent believers, in the light,
but then skulk around, in the dark, cultivating
their sickly perversions.
All who've faced death, whether in "conflicts",
or in declared wars, and have taken life, or had
to experience the bloody deaths, of their friends,
or comrads, at the hand of their "honorable"
enemies, are not "shamed" by their service. We
were soldiers, who, by the flip of a coin, or
shere luck, were the victors, not the victim.
We fought, using civilized rules of engagement,
even though, we too, had our "10%"ers. We didn't
take an non-combatant, tie his/her hands, behind
their back, blind-fold them, and then saw their
head off, while several "brave???" "men???" held
their helpless body down, justifying it as part
of a "holy jihad".
These "patriots" are shaming their own people,
their country, & the very religion they are
"killing for". You don't gain compassion, from
the peoples of the "World", by performing acts
of horrific barbarism, upon helpless victims,
chosen by random opportunity.
Just as children, during the early years of
American history, were brainwashed into believing
that the white race was superior, to other races,
the children of Pseudo-Islam (terrorists) are
being taught to die, & kill, praising a hateful
Allah, not how to live, with Allah as a Loving, & compassionate, God.
These "heroes" who like to stand in front of
cameras, & brutally murder innocent people, after
they've begged for their lives, in front of the
same cameras, are an elite group who can claim,
as their members, from the past:
Hitler, Jeffrey Dahlmer, Son of Sam, Bonnie
& Clyde, Al Capone, "Papa Doc", Vlad the
impaler, & other notable degenerates.
It's really a shame when history repeats itself,
and innocent people die, because a group thinks
that they can force the world to "do what they
demand", by using blackmail, coersion, murder, &
terror. Even a passive "victim" can turn on a
"bully", & find the opportunity to end his/her
torment, even if it means doing something that
they "normally" would never even think of.
Bush didn't start this "thing". Pseudo-Islamic
"gangsters", on board planes, with innocent Men,
Women, & Children, premeditatedly killed many
thousands of innocents, not caring that their
actions would be "addressed" with a vengeance.
Many millions have died for "Man's lack of
Humanity" towards his "Brother", during the
Worlds violent history, but "never" has terror
risen as the victor. Eventually, all who've tried
to terrorize the civilized world, have tasted the
gallows, or met their "god", at the hands of their
I'm saddened about the children, who will die, due
to the stupidity of their parents, & those who
will die, at the hands of these same children,
unless they die by our hand.
"What a shame!".
Posted by: Erodoeht Retsul at October 09, 2004 02:34 PM
Posted by: Edna at October 11, 2004 09:41 AM
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Posted by: Edna at October 11, 2004 09:42 AM
When the first crusade was declared it was in response to the defeat of a Byzantine army by Moslem invaders who were attacking Christian Byzantium. At that time there was a Muslim army in Italy and a Muslim army in Spain. The Crusades were just opening another front in a war that was already 300 years old, taking the fight to the enemy after they had launched repeated attacks. The Crusades actually worked, they took the steam out of Muslim attacks and ulimately alowed the establishment of stable borders.
Though it took another 400 years to throw the last Muslims out of Spain, the war has never really ended. Just look around the world. Muslim insurgents in the Philipines, in Indonesia, in Chechneya(ok so I can't spell it), in Kasmir. Muslim governments oppress minorities through armed millitias in Sudan, in Nigeria. 1000 years of conflict in the Balkans. And the on going supression of any religious minority in any country with a Muslim government. Islam has been at war with very other religion it has met since its founding. Even if you don't believe in religion, this is a religious war. The only choices are worship allah or fight. We do not have to become barbarians ourselves, but we must stand very firm and make it clear to the Muslims that any attack on the west will cost them more than they gain. That is a fundamental requirement for the continued existence of the freedoms we take for granted because those freedoms do not exist under Islam. That is why I will be voting for George Bush, he understands that essential requirement for the continued existence for this society and the western world. John Kerry does not understand. If our society fails to continue to exist, all the other issues are irrelevant.
Posted by: Dan at October 11, 2004 09:03 PM
Posted by: will willard at October 13, 2004 02:41 PM
Posted by: Budman at October 13, 2004 06:38 PM
The majority say that we should nuke the entire country, but the reason we (US, GB, Australia) have gone in there is to remove WMD's (nope not a reason anymore, next one), to get the leader (got him now) who supports Al Quaeda (no, not that anymore either).
So here's the deal, based on cutting losses and logic. Why kill more iraqi's and american soldiers and contractors through a nuke bomb? If I had the choice of being nuked or left with a tyrant leader, I would choose the tyrant leader any day.
So to save the most amount of american lives which is what seems to be the most important thing to most bloggers here, the answer is simple, we should leave them to tyranny (you know, like they had it before but without the air strikes and faggot US soldiers who like to molest young boys at Abu Ghraib.
If you guys hate this people group so much, do them a favourleave them to their tyrant and spend more money on protecting your borders and ousting Muslims with red-neck McCarthy-ism back in the US.
Posted by: Mike at October 14, 2004 09:33 AM
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Posted by: CLAIRE DIFFLEY at October 28, 2004 09:58 AM
Wir brauchen Geld,Waffen und tapfere Maenner und Frauen!
Wer wohlhabend ist, soll unseren Kampf unterstuetzen!
Posted by: Capt.Scott at October 28, 2004 12:16 PM
WE ALL MUST UNITE, WERE AMERICANS.
LETS GET BACK TO THE POST 9/11 MIND FRAME WHERE IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT WE PERSONALLY CARED ABOUT, AND LETS START THINKING ABOUT EACHOTHER FOR A CHANGE. OUR GREAT COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON GODLY PRINCIPLES, AND AFTER 9/11 FOR A SHORT TIME WE REVERTED BACK TO THOSE PRINCIPLES. WE CARED ABOUT EACHOTHER, MORE THAN WE CARED ABOUT OURSELVES. OUR WHOLE HEART WENT OUT TO THE VICTUMS OF 9/11. NOW WE ARE OVER FREEKING FIGHTING IN IRAQ. I DON'T FREEKING KNOW IF WE SHOULD BE THERE OR NOT, BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WE HAVE TO SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. OUR TROOPS ARE OVER THERE, AND MOST OF THEM BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS RIGHT. IF THEY KNEW WE WERE BACK HERE BITCHING ABOUT HOW WE DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE THERE, OR THAT WE DON'T SUPPORT THEM, AND WE PUT ON RALLY TO SAY GET THEM OUT. THERE MORAL IS GOING TO GO TO SHIT. DON'T GET ME WRONG I HATE WAR, I HATE PEOPLE DYING. BUT WHATS WORSE FOR THOSE THAT DIE IS FOR WHEREEVER THEY GO AFTER DEATH WEATHER IT BE HEAVEN OR WHATEVER YOUR BELIEFE IF THEY WERE TO LOOK BACK AND SEE WHAT THEY WERE DOING WAS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE PEOPLE THEY WERE TRYING TO KEEP FREE "WETHER YOU BELIEVE IT IS RIGHT OR WRONG" HOW HORRIBLE THEY MUST FEEL. GOD BLESS AMERICA. GOD BLESS OUR TROUPS, KEEP THEM SAFE, AND BRING OUR BOYS HOME, AND STOP THE FREEKING KILLING.
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Posted by: jack ward at November 26, 2004 09:44 PM
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Posted by: J at December 04, 2004 07:47 PM
These terrorists are animals, they have no value for human life - on top of that they are RACIST, they hate verything called a non-muslim (or in their cas a non-believer).
after seeing some pictures and a video, it sickend me to see how governments and Seach engines allow people to post links of this nature - BUT IT DOES REVEAL THE REAL TRUTH.
if i had a gun, i would not hesitate to go and kill evey single one of those pigs in the world, or even better torture them and cut off their heads.
how is it possible that they can even pray before doing something like this and take pride in it.
AMERICA LIVE 4 EVER AND PROVAIL OVER THIS EVIL ON EARTH. AMEN!
Posted by: T at December 11, 2004 06:49 AM
yes when george bush. If the video of more terrorist activity to came from bin ladden had not surfaced during the second election, bush would have lost the election. Then the fear and pain would have faded as he left office. The ever tightening vice around the americans was when the white house stated that they did want the most recent video shown, making americans believe they could not survive without bush. Was how the votes saddled into bush's election win.
Posted by: cripple at December 28, 2004 11:15 PM
live or die thoughts. For your re-election of a war monger george bush whom bin ladden enjoys teasing and fighting.
how can you live with yourselves. It's these kinds of choices that make you americans red necks of the world who everyone wants to crush.
Posted by: cripple at December 28, 2004 11:34 PM
Posted by: malaysia at January 08, 2005 09:03 AM
heres the game plan
1. call out all of our troops
2. bomb the fucking living shit out of them
3. televise the results with out cencoring it i wanna see skin instantly liquify
i want all there half goat half human scum of children to be affected to the point where they have a highly contageous skin eating nuclear virus that kills them very, very, very,painfully and slowly
nuke their sacks!
i wanna see skin on fire
i wanna see iraq and all the -stan countrys gone
i wanna see people running in fear of the almighty united states
i wanna see people jumping into lakes to stop their skin from burning
if there are lakes in that stupid ass camel fucking country
Posted by: some yo yo at January 28, 2005 08:49 AM
Sory bout the spellin
Posted by: Jack at February 05, 2005 06:22 PM
He's trying to breath even though his head is almost off.
Posted by: nowhyu? at February 08, 2005 09:15 PM
As for being barbaric, disgusting and etc, yes, it is. But every country all over the world is responsible for atrocities. these atrocities simply happen to be the ones that has be televised and publicised the most.
The question I have to ask is that surely these people would not do this just for kicks? Then again, they may, but I have a gut feeling that many things have happened to them at the hands of others before they started to take such drastic action. Of course, that's not condolence to the families of the victims. Who knows what goes through people's minds when they are commiting such acts.
The ability to do such things is within everyone, if they are brought around to that certain way of thinking. Don't fool yourselves.
All acts like this, of violence, mind manipulation, using fear and religion to brainwash others are despicable. But they happen, and there's nothing the average Joe can do about it.
Posted by: Leo at February 09, 2005 02:33 PM
What the Hell?? Are you INSANE? that makes you just as bad as them. I'm all for opinions but jeez! You racist guys are damn retards!
D'you know how many inncoent English muslims I've seen get beat up just over this thing? And they had NOTHING to do with this at all. I know a few Muslims who went to Liverpool (I live right by there) and OFFERED UP PRAYERS for Ken Bigley. They DONATED to his family. They CARE. They feel GUILTY because this kind of shit is going down in the name of THEIR religion. They shouldn't have to live with the stigma of being evil, just because some idiots in a far off country kill others.
And you say we should kill them all. I don't normally get mad like this, but DAMN! Don't you DARE talk like that! i have Muslim friends. They're just like me, like anyone. (I was going to say like you am me, but they aren't as retarded as you racist types at all)
Obviously, this little bitching of mine DOSEN'T apply to everyone who has posted on this board. I know some of you are reasonable, and have raised points against the idiocy the others are sprouting.
This kind of racist talk ISN'T funny, and it ISN'T clever. I know I'm wasting my characters, for I've got a good idea that those people are just idiot kids. And if you're not, and if you're adults.....
GET YOUR HEADS CHECKED, YOU BRAINWASHED MORONS! STOP BEING SO GODAMNED READY TO KILL PEOPLE YOU'VE NEVER MET FOR YOUR SAD ARSE COUNTRY. BREAK AWAY FROM THE MASS OF ZOMBIES AND GET ENOUGH BACKBONE TO FORM YOUR OWN, IDEPENDANT OPINION!
Posted by: Leo at February 09, 2005 02:51 PM
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Posted by: Big Grown Man at April 26, 2005 05:50 PM
The white people on this planet ARE superior. Its simpe like that. im not saying that we were always superior, im just saying we have grown and grown and grown and that we are superior now. In fact, the whiter the skin, the more civilised. If u look at it this way, The white people are the most modern and civilised, the asian (who are yellow) are also good but still less, and the muslims and middle-east people (which i call noggys from now on) and black people are just ALL AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF EM complete fuckups. Look at africa; hopping like bunnies and sitting on their lazy asses all day. Look at middle east; praying to a stupid book and a dumbass "God", beheading and stoning people, living in deserts...
We (the whites) have developed and grown due to our INTELLIGENCE to this state. we have supreme technology and the noggys and blacks dont. when there is violence or war, noggys and blacks, when there is hunger and death, noggys and blacks. I mean, who isnt noticing this?? and what do we do? we go there to 'help' and the white people who do that get beheaded. goddammit u stupid poop-coloured fuckers. If i would be the leader of the white supreme armies there, i would say: "fine, u dont want to be helped? go fuck yourself then". and leave the pathetic turds.
There is only one strategy i can think of to save the earth and ensure total peace and efficient use of resources to stop pollution:
Kill all noggys and blacks, EVERYWHERE.
the blacks in africa are only getting sick from aids, hopping all day, and suffering from hunger. In fact, they are suffering always. We keep helping them with sending money, BUT IT DOESNT CHANGE ONE DAMN THING. its like they wipe thier asses with it. So if we just kill all blacks there, we end their suffering, and we can start to live there. Then we can breed, and more whites are created, which is always a good thing. And we have more resources and land and food at our disposal, which only helps our development.
Next, we wipe out all noggys. That way we also kill the religion which created this situation of people being beheaded in the first place. This will also end terrorism, and offcourse, we start to live there as well, creating once again more room for us. I liked the idea of nukes, but then we also poison the land. I prefer a gene-engineered virus, which only kills blacks and noggys. AND another advantage above all these GREAT advantages, is that we end like 99% of ALL criminal activities in the white countries. Just check out the prisons or a program on TV about wanted people, it always has something to do with noggys and blacks. And in reality-shows from hospitals, people carried in with gunshot wounds, are always coloured as well. Coincedence, or is there something in there genes that makes them attractive to BULLETS?
Surely, i give every single person on this world a full right to live, but if they are just too stupid to survive, or to mess with the best (white people) DIE SHOULD DIE AND BURN IN HELL AND PARTICURALLY THOSE FUCKING ISLAMIC PUSSYS. How the fuck am i expected to 'respect' a religion like that if they dance around slaughtered animals, or dress up like morons, or kill our people, or that coloured people are always involved in criminal acts?!? plz...
Posted by: White at May 04, 2005 07:02 PM
like general george s. Patton sed "violence solves all problems no people no problems."
the thing i hate is all the fuck-up democrats that are saying the ware in Iraq is detrimental if we were not trying to help the shut heads we could have just nuked of carpet boomed the fucks in to the ground and given them a pretty glass grave.
Do you people relies how much the better the would would be if hitler won WWII
Posted by: Tim at May 11, 2005 11:05 AM
If your neighbour's house is burning down, would you knowingly aid the arsonists by giving them more fuel and giving them free access into your yard to start more fire from all possible sides? And all this while discussing with the arsonists (who are also full-time, hedonistic, bully renovation contractors) about plans to rebuild the same ravaged house based on hedonistic designs? And at the end of the day, agree to these arsonists billing you for the cost of burning down the house and subsequent renovation works? I guess you would, if you yourself are the hedonistic type and prefer the stinking, decadent lifestyle led by these bullies, who are actually cousins living on opposite sides of a pond.
I suppose that in that imaginary neighbourhood, the spineless police is also in cahoots with the bullies and would ultimately classify the case as justifiable arson, supporting any allegation of fictitious crime supposedly committed by the head of household. And all that for the purpose of allowing the bullies to further terrorise and extort the people in your stinking neighbourhood with impunity. What do you get in return? More promises of a stinking, decadent lifestyle which you crave for, as portrayed gloriously by biased and hedonistic news reporters who are also the bullies' cronies. Shame on you!
However, do you know that in another part of the neighbourhood which you might consider backward, the blood of a group of wise youngsters is boiling. They are aware of this "pulling the wool over your eyes" tactic done by the bullies and believe that for the sake of stability, justice must be done and real PEACE be restored. Maybe the parents of these youngsters are moderately religious people who wear their faith on their sleeves, neither offending nor supporting the bullies, but the youngsters WILL grow up putting their faith into action, not words. So watch out bullies.
Moral of the story: Don't teach your children to befriend or become bullies and corrupt police officers. And don't expose them to too much TV such that they appreciate the lifestyle portrayed therein even more than they appreciate you.
Posted by: staunch at June 27, 2005 04:19 AM
Posted by: myranda at July 29, 2005 02:56 PM
FUCK TERRORIST OUR COUNTRY
Posted by: hohoho at July 29, 2005 03:01 PM
I'm not naive enough to believe that there are no innocent casualties in war. I get that, and I stand here today blessed because so many innocents were willing to put their lives on the line for the sake of peace.
Let's be realistic - those who truly desire war, those who fire the first shot, are those who are truly evil. Those of us who are left to defend ourselves in the wake of insanity really have no choice. Have any of these bleeding hearts really considered the alternative? How many 9/11's do we permit?
We are at war and it's a sad but unsurprising eventuality that has been prophesied for millenia. What thouroughly amazes me, and not in a good way, is the blind hatred of so many so called civilized people. I take issue with the leftist attitude that everything that's wrong here is the USA's fault. Have we made mistakes? Again, I'm not naive enough to believe that we're all without fault. However, to paint every American with the same brush of pigheadedness and insensitivity because of a few idiots is no better than saying that every Muslim deserves torture and ignominious death. Religion and/or nationality are not the real issue. The issue is truly what lies within the human heart. There will always be those who will use any excuse to commit acts of atrocity. (I think that some of them have found their way onto this site.... some of these entries are hateful atrocities...) On the other hand there will always be those who will use any excuse for acts of kindness.
We're at war, and it is what it is - a necessary evil made necessary by those who have hatred in their souls, who have no desire to live life by the higher standards required by peace. If we don't want these types of people to have power over our lives and futures, we have to fight them. Not with our own brand of hatred, but with the sorrow that those who try to love their fellow man would feel for being given no choice.
Posted by: Bunny at August 13, 2005 05:16 PM
Why aren't they cut'n off heads anymore? If the insurgents could get some more yanks and chop their heads off it would be tough for the yanks to stomach. Maybe some more are yanks will end up getting their heads chopped off. The Iraqi guys are pretty good at it though, it doesn't appear to take to long to naw off the guys head. How long does it take the US to blow families sleeping in their homes to smitherines?
This isn't a war, it's an illegal invasion of another country. George Bush is 10 times worse than any dictator, plus he's just plain stupid.
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This is a sad world.
RIP Jack Hensley.. you were a good man.
Prayers are ALWAYS with the family.
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