Zionists R Zionist
I was reading this crap on CNN, you know, about how bad it could be if Trump recognizes that Jerusalem, or the city of Zion where Mt. Zion is located, is recognized as the Capital of Israel.Right on queue Hassan Rouhani Recep Tayyip Erdogan declare Jerusalem belongs to Islam.
Rouhani has warned the U.S. against relocating its Israel embassy from Tel Aviv to al-Quds (Jerusalem), saying the “illegal” move would further destabilize Palestine and the region. Rouhani stressed during the speech that “Quds belongs to Islam, Muslims and the Palestinians, and there is no room for new adventurism by global arrogance.” He also emphasized that Muslims, including Palestinians, should stand up against the conspiracy to declare Quds as the Israeli “capital,” saying Muslim states and the OIC have a great responsibility in that regard.See no mention of East Jerusalem, no according to Turkey and Iran all of Jerusalem "belongs to Islam". Its naked Islamic Supremacy that prevents peace with Israel, always has been, always will be.
Posted by: Mailman at December 06, 2017 09:09 AM
Whatever. But anyway regardless, doesn't change the point about Islamic Supremacy and the Muslims concern and outrage at anything, but especially Jewish things, that contradicts their view of themselves and their religion as supreme.
I mean can you imagine the outrage today if the Pope suddenly wanted to build a church on Mt. Zion and claimed it as "Christian only" because Jesus preached there?
Also go ask an actual Arab if the Palestinians are Arabs, any Arab, Yemen, Saudi Egypt and they will tell you, no they are not Arabs.
They did pick up some Arabic culture and DNA with the imposition of Islam by Arab conquest, but they have never been Arabs nor have the Arabs ever considered them Arabs.
But we're getting off point there. The point is that Islam wants to project its dominance over Jews and others by its possession of the holy places. Any change detracts from the Islamic Supremacy myth that permeates Islamic culture.
It runs so deep that this just won't upset Palestinians but shakes the basic world view of all Muslims worldwide. Shia, Sunni whatever. Because despite their internal differences they both believe Islam is superior, that Muslims are superior and anything that dispels that, well they get all bent.
Posted by: Howie at December 06, 2017 11:50 AM
Two different Mounts by their standards. Meh. Hills.
I spent Way to much time there. Yes they speak Arabic, but Mailman is correct.
Posted by: Kafiroon at December 06, 2017 12:11 PM
I'm not perfect..
Posted by: Howie at December 06, 2017 04:22 PM
Upper Room is maybe 600 or so years too new.
Posted by: Kafiroon at December 06, 2017 08:39 PM
The US finally acts on a decision made many years ago and massive outrage?
Sorry, this has nothing to do with history. This is about current politics only.
The left and their muslim allies see a possible win with this issue, and they need one badly at this point.
Posted by: JohnS at December 06, 2017 09:59 PM
Posted by: frustrated teacher at December 07, 2017 12:05 AM
Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since David.
Mo the Goat Fucker never got close to Jerusalem much less Israel.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at December 07, 2017 01:49 AM
My point was (which I probably could have made clearer :) is that by CNN proclaiming the Philistines and the Palestinians as being one and the same is just another example of CNNs FAKE NEWS agenda.
But its a tool the left has and continues to use to justify why they believe Palestinians are indigenous to the area and teh juices aren't... in spite of the fact todays Arabs trace their ancestry back to Arabia while Jews are the ACTUAL indigenous people of the region.
Posted by: Mailman at December 07, 2017 05:08 AM
Time has come to do new things (like the novel approach of FORCING the Arabs to live in peace with teh juices!!!!).
Liberals are blinded by their hatred of Trump to realise that Trump is right.
Posted by: Mailman at December 07, 2017 05:09 AM
Of course they are different. But surely when the Arabs and everyone else invaded the original Philistines were bred or pushed out. So there is probably some traces of them. One of the traces can be found in that the Arabs still use the word Philistina rather than Palestine or Palestina.
But if you look around most of the Muslim world, Egypt Lebanon and Jordan don't claim them and make them live as refugees all these years later.
So we can probably argue the nuances of cultures forever.
I think the left's argument might give some claim to Gaza, but none to Jerusalem. Right?
That is true. I think Trump as been trying for a deal. The Palis said they thought there was a deal. But they'd always string along a deal and do nothing.
So Trump is right, failure to make a deal must have costs. Whereas in the past the Palestinian rejections were always at no cost. Or they would gain....
So I agree on that. Setting aside any kihnspiracy theories going around, if they don't deal or are stubborn that too must have a cost.
Anyway don't worry about it. Post all you want.
Posted by: Howie at December 07, 2017 11:02 AM
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