National Post Recommends Converting To Islam To Avoid Islamic Terrorism

uturn.jpg

I can understand the intent of the author. If the ability to recite a few lines of the Islamic declaration of faith saves your life, why not? Just because you say it, doesn't mean you must believe it.

On the other hand, spiritual and moral consequences aside, will capitulating to religious terrorists really make us any safer?

To weed the Muslims out from the infidels, terrorists asked people to recite the shahadah to prove their faith. They asked other things too, like certain key passages of the Koran, the name of Mohammad's mother, that sort of thing - it was al-Qaeda Question Hour. The wrong answer meant death.

After that, many, myself included, wondered: Should we - Muslim or not - learn the basics of Islam and have a read through the Koran? If one of us ever finds herself in a situation similar to that of Westgate Mall victims, could even a rudimentary knowledge of Islam save us?

(Hat Tip: Jihad Watch)

Islam gives the kufar three choices during jihad: convert, submit, or die. If you convert under duress, isn't that the same as submitting? So, it really boils down to this - would you rather live on your knees or die standing?

I doubt any of us can definitively know what we would do while under attack by terrorists. How difficult would it be to recite a few words if you had a knife to your throat?

Robert Spencer's post is worth a read, as are the comments at the article itself.

Posted by: DMartyr at 12:27 PM

Comments

1 How about this: carry a gun so you can shoot them in the face instead.

Posted by: Alex at August 30, 2014 12:49 PM

2 Guns-shoot them--Alex-you are right on!!
C-CS

Posted by: C-Christian Soldier at August 30, 2014 01:12 PM

3 living on your knees can be a temporary situation and allow one time to organize a plan of attack in reprisal. death on your feet, however, is a rather permanent state. i'd rather live to see another day. this is the problem with forced conversions. sure, you can force someone to act a certain way, and you can force a person to say certain things, but you can not force a person to truly believe something short of using brainwashing techniques. but even then, brainwashing someone into following a certain faith, would God accept that conversion as valid? in christianity god would not accept such a conversion as a conversion at all. perhaps islam in more about works, lip service, and performing ritual then the pure-intention, authentic belief in the heart that is an absolute requisite in evangelical christian belief, and thereby, salvation.

Posted by: Mistress Overdone at August 30, 2014 01:16 PM

4 YA'LL have NOT been paying attention.
Note the stopping of truckers in Syria. They Were muslim. Their Killers were muslim.
Problem: Not being the Right kind of muslim for the gun men.
Result: Dead truckers.
Good Luck on meeting the same type of gunman you might chose to be.

Posted by: Kafiroon at August 30, 2014 01:42 PM

5 Accepting Islam would mean denying Christ. I guess you have to ask yourself the question, "WWJD"? Or pee all over yourself and say whatever they tell you to say to save your worthless ass. Damn cowards.

Posted by: Max at August 30, 2014 02:11 PM

6 Kafiroon hit the nail on the head. They recently executed a Christian in Syria who recited the Shahada. The Islamist said the Christian would not be shot because the Christian was not sincere. Therefore, he would be beheaded because shooting is too merciful for him.

Posted by: Captain Harlock at August 30, 2014 02:13 PM

7 What was the old advice to women about rape? Something about "lay back and enjoy it"?

I am glad to see that the same type of advice doesn't work for men, either.

Posted by: Valerie at August 30, 2014 03:33 PM

8 Valerie: that was a statement by Clayton Williams. He was rightfully defeated by Ann Richards after his statement. Clayton is a bright man, but with statements like that about rape, we thought he was Joe Biden. And we will not elect a Joe Biden as governor in Texas.

Posted by: Captain Harlock at August 30, 2014 06:56 PM

9 Captain: Really? I grew up in Texas hearing that phrase from time to time, and never made the connection.

Posted by: Valerie at August 30, 2014 07:56 PM

10 You possess the absolute right to defend yourself. Max is correct: if you are ashamed of Jesus He'll be ashamed of you (see Mark's Gospel). Kaflroon is also correct which makes Alex's strategy the best one.

I have no intention of reading the Koran or any muslim writing other than to find coordinates to enter into a targeting computer.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at August 30, 2014 11:05 PM

11 I think everyone SHOULD read the koran and hadith, and understand what an evil, file, hate filled fraud this "religion" called islam actually is. Then maybe instead of running to befriend and defend every silly muslim stink pipe who decides to make up new rules to be offended at (i.e. we can't allow seeing-eye dogs in our cabs; we refuse to ring up purchases which have pork/alcohol, etc), we'll admit what the real war is about, and who the real enemy actually is.

Posted by: unPC at August 31, 2014 08:50 AM

12 Couple of things: NAPO is a major canadian right-of-centre publication. People are pissed at this stuff up here, as noticed by the comments, and they're pissed at the government for increased immigration as well. The current day Conservative Party of Canada(centre-right), will likely be displaced by Wild Rose(right-leaning only), within 10 years. Much like how the Progressive Conservative party was by the Reform party. I shouldn't forget to mention that there's a serious reason why these publications are dying hard. In Canada almost all the media is owned by two or three companies. Bell, Rogers, Shaw all own major swaths of TV publications which have all gone down hill. Viewership at some of the old flagship stations like CTV-Kitchener/Waterloo have dropped 70% in the last 10 years.

Post media(napo) has recently tried shifting to become more "centrist" unfortunately, no one wants it. Publications like Redstar(Toronto Star), GrubMail(Globe and Mail), are both left leaning, or heavily left-leaning, Sun News(right leaning/heavy right leaning). So what's the problem with media here? They own all the other papers, and if you buy say NAPO, you'll see the same stories in other publications, no original reporting at all. Sometimes if you get a small town paper like Sentinel Review(publication in Woodstock/Oxford County) it'll simply be delayed a day or three. Again, no original news. Anyway, Sun News is growing faster than any other publication in a time when everyone else is dying.

Posted by: Eli at August 31, 2014 04:00 PM

13 You know what they say: "you can always come back to fight another day". Personally, seeing the way hundreds of persons who surrendered to ISIS ended up being executed, Muslims and non-Muslims, I would go by the mantra: fight to the dead.

Posted by: Arawak at August 31, 2014 06:43 PM

14 That would be: fight to the DEATH.

Posted by: Arawak at August 31, 2014 06:44 PM

15 Well, it's out in the open at last, this has been what the liberals, democrats and such have been working towards all these years since 9/11 massacre, the idea of the US just converting to Islam to save our lives, our families and our nation, an Islamic nation, but saved it would be.
The war against Christian's the war against the constitution and Bill of Rights the militarization of the Police, the allowing of Illegal immigration to swamp out the hated whites and English speakers. Pay back for all the sins the US has committed in their eyes during the forming of this nation. All to persuade Americans' to become Spanish speaking, Muslims.
The main problem I see with this conversion for peace is.......Which brand of Muslim do we convert to for peace?
Shia? Sunni? From what I see converting to the wrong version of Islam is just as deadly, just as fatal and more likely to have at least half of Converted Spanish speaking American's run naked through the desert to be gunned down en mass or beheaded for some future snuff movie. So , say we convert, which brand of vile Islamic creed do we convert to?
I'm thinking kneeling on the ground reciting some mush about Islam while getting my brains blown out is better than blowing some poor fellow American's brains out who chose the wrong Islam, or vice versus.
But really Bubba, wouldn't it be just as bad or good to fight Islam, refuse to convert, even die to protect the religion of your choice, the Constitution and bill of rights and you nation, than submit to a religious terrorist who is forcing you to convert to an heinous cult all to save your life?
I know there are a large percentage of American's who will lick the boot of these animals and mouth any words, say anything to ingratiate themselves into the good graces of the conquer.
There are those Vichy types in any war and Nation.
I also know there are those who will do the old Red Dawn scenario.
It will be everyone's choice, and in the end we all gonna die, it's how and why we die that matters.
"LAN ASTELAM" I will not submit.
Psalms: 144-1




Posted by: obsisdian at August 31, 2014 10:35 PM

Posted by: Gork at August 31, 2014 11:23 PM

17 If I thought for one second that they would accept such a conversion at gunpoint, I might admit that the article has some slimy merit.

But they don't. We do not have that choice. Either fight them or die.

Posted by: Gork at August 31, 2014 11:25 PM

18 The forth option is to let that islamist barbarian bring his knife to a gunfight.

Posted by: trebbleds at September 01, 2014 08:32 AM

19 Also the fortran and the pascal options as well as the 'fourth' ....

Posted by: trebbleds at September 01, 2014 08:33 AM

20 Mr. Sotloff should have converted to the Islamic faith he loved so well.

Posted by: obsidian at September 02, 2014 01:08 PM






Processing 0.01, elapsed 0.0055 seconds.
15 queries taking 0.0032 seconds, 28 records returned.
Page size 17 kb.
Powered by Minx 0.7 alpha.