So, if Islamic State is a "Country" Now ....

... does that mean we can declare war, carpet bomb them, then round up their leaders and try them for war crimes before executing them? If only:

In an audio statement posted online that coincided with the first day of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, a spokesman for the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), announced that the group's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, was the "caliph," or leader, of a state whose territory extended from the city of Aleppo in northwestern Syria, to Diyala province in northeastern Iraq.

The spokesman, Abu Muhammad al-Adnani, described al-Baghdadi as "the imam and khalifah (caliph) for the Muslims everywhere." He also said that with the establishment of the caliphate, the group was changing its name to just the Islamic State, dropping the mention of Iraq and the Levant.

"The legality of all emirates, groups, states and organizations becomes null by the expansion of the caliph's authority and the arrival of its troops to their areas," al-Adnani continued. "Listen to your caliph and obey him. Support your state, which grows every day."

My opinion? Part of me says let them have their caliphate. It's about time the Islamist supporters realized their dreams and are forced to lie in the beds they've made.

Like communism, the fantasy of the ideal will only be crushed by the hard facts of reality: life under Islamic law is oppressive.

Then again, it took 50+ years for the Soviet Empire to collapse under it's own weight. Can we really wait 50 years for these people to figure out that their utopian experiment is doomed to failure from the start?

That's not really a rhetorical question. I'm actually torn as to what our response, if any, should be.

Posted by: Rusty at 02:29 PM


1 Life under fascism is oppressive, all righty, and it's super disappointing to learn how many normal enough neighbors are happy to be informants to the secret police. The Taliban did not lose control of Kabul from internal forces, the Stazi didn't lose east germany. In a Caliphate there will be an endless stream of executions and no three people will ever conspire to resist but that one of them is an informant to the mutawah. It won't collapse until some outside force smashes it, and i expect the USA be kinda busy the next couple of decades recovering from what our current Pharaoh is doing to us.
I would say to hell with them, but that's exactly what they are building.

Posted by: Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder at June 30, 2014 08:39 PM

2 I don't understand why the media has made a big thing about an islamic terrorist group proclaiming a caliphate. What's so big deal about that. A caliphate is no different from Taliban rule in Afghanistan between 1996 and 2001. They're both islamic dictatorships with the same sharia imposed by terrorists. A caliphate is no different from the Taliban's Emirate.

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Posted by: Birkenstock Outlet at July 01, 2014 04:30 PM

4 But such a Caliphate will never be content; it will continue to want to annex new territories, as evidenced by:
"The legality of all emirates, groups, states and organizations becomes
null by the expansion of the caliph's authority and the arrival of its
troops to their areas,"

In fact an example of what you suggest was Russia's decision following the 1st Chechen war to cede independence to Chechnya. But the Chechen's weren't content and soon after tried to impose an Islamic state on neighbouring Dagestan, and annex it. Russia corrected its original mistake of "submission" by retaking Dagestan and Chechnya.

Don't forget what the true name of the Arab religion means:"Submission!"

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 01, 2014 04:52 PM

5 Muslims hate each other as much as they do jews. They would implode probably before they even got started and the various power hungry thugs will be at each other for those "50 years" even after the Civilized World walls them off into their sand cesspits forever and frees the rest of the population from the slavery of islam.

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