Everyone in Europe is Shocked, Shocked to Learn that Spy Agencies .... Spy

This pretty much sums it up:

Clapper said the outrage and surprise expressed by representatives of allies in recent days was naive or disingenuous and reminded him of a line from the movie "Casablanca."

Thanks to LauraWalkerKC

Posted by: Rusty at 08:28 PM


1 I understand the need to spy on enemies. But spying on friends is more likely to turn them from friends into acquaintances, or worse, enemies.

I don't understand why you are so jazzed about the government spying on people, Rusty. It's not the position I would expect you to take after reading your posts for ~8 years.

Posted by: Kevin at October 30, 2013 02:41 AM

2 Heh, they flagged the video to Websense as "gambling".


Posted by: Howie at October 30, 2013 07:15 AM

3 Kevin,

Because governments don't have "friends", they have "allies" -- ie, alliances based on mutual interests. But as in all things, sometimes interests diverge. So, we spy on allies because conflicting interests means they don't always share important information with us.

It's why some of our notorious moles were moles for ... Israel, one of our closest allies.

Posted by: Rusty at October 30, 2013 10:48 AM

4 That explains why they spied on the Pope. In particular on Cardinals before he was selected. Make all the stupid excuses you care to but this is a colossal mistake that won't go away for a long time. I don't give a shit what anyone says. If you sneak around,listen to my phone calls and intercept my E-mails you aren't my ally. You're a low life potential enemy. If you aren't already.
Some claim to be our "closest" allies because it's good for them. Not us.

Posted by: adam at October 31, 2013 05:28 AM

5 Even the ones whining are spying on us. That"s what spy agencies do and will do while denying all the while. Oh BOO HOO

Posted by: Joe at November 01, 2013 09:53 AM

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