Bombing Outside Mosque in the UK After Rigby Funeral
They have said the explosion came from car park at Kanz-ul-Iman Central Jamia Mosque in Binfield Street. Unconfirmed reports have said it was caused by 'a nail bomb'. West Midlands Police said it was now being treated as a 'terrorist incident.' ... The incident came on the day murdered soldier Lee Rigby was remembered at a private funeral service in Bury, Greater Manchester.And it's not the first:
The incident comes just weeks after an explosive device was found outside another mosque in nearby Walsall, just eight miles away.I know the first reaction of some will be that this is a fake hate crime done by some nutty Muslim trying to play the victim card. Maybe, but it seems less likely than the other alternative: there are plenty nutjobs out there who aren't Muslim. As rare as non-Muslim on Muslim terrorism is, it does exist. Case in point. If you are on the right and you believe in collective guilt, then I have news for you: you are not on the right. If you believe that Muslims in general ought to be punished for the deeds of a specific Muslim then you and I are not on the same page. This same mentality is why George Zimmerman is being prosecuted. It's the same mentality which leads to terrorism. You hurt random people who represent a group in order to send a message of fear to that entire group. And it's what made the KKK not just a group of thugs, but terrorists. So, yeah, there are people who really do hate Muslims and it is conceivable that some subset of this group really are either crazy enough or ideologically motivated enough or some mixture of the two that they would resort to acts of terror. The only individual who actually fits that characterization in the West, though (that I can think of offhand), is Anders Breivik. And for him it was an ideology mixed with a good dose of the crazy. And, oddly enough, Breivik's anti-Muslim paranoia led not to killing Muslims, but to killing a bunch of Norwegian kids. Which isn't odd at all, when you come to think of it. The vast majority of terrorism in the world is committed by Muslims. This is true. But it is also true that the vast majority of the victims of Muslim terrorism are ... other Muslims. The "traitors" and "apostates" as the Salaafis like to call their Muslim victims. Breivik viewed the powers that be in Norway and the Labour Party similarly as traitors. The point being that while it is possible that this mosque attack is a hoax -- we've seen plenty of phony hate crimes against Muslims since 9/11 -- we need to remember the moral of the story in The Boy Who Cried Wolf: sometimes, there really is a wolf.
And don't point to idiotic commenters, like yourself, who we have no control over.
Posted by: Rusty at July 12, 2013 12:50 PM
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 12, 2013 12:59 PM
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 12, 2013 01:07 PM
Want has nothing to do with anything. If we HAVE to based on it being the least bad policy option, well there you are.
I don't recall any one lately calling fore the death of all "Wahabis", but we do have a commenter who calls for the death of all "Irhabis" -- which means "terrorist" in Arabic.
So, yeah, about that whole "idiot" thing....
And yes we have sometimes have idiotic comments. Like yours.
Posted by: Rusty at July 12, 2013 01:21 PM
Additionally, his screed included lauding several US presidents and authors. They guy was a nut, nothing more.
Posted by: WVinMN at July 12, 2013 02:11 PM
Posted by: Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder at July 12, 2013 02:19 PM
Remember also that the KKK was and is the 'terror wing of the Democratic Party.' Because THEY have no moral or philosophical obstacles to violence and terror tactics, only occasionally tactical ones. Witness what Obama's Justice Dept is doing in FL for example. They WANT riots. They NEED riots. Which is why they will very likely get them, if not now then soon.
But on the other hand, collective guilt does eventually happen. If 9/11 had been only the first of a series of similar or worse attacks we would have become angry. Angry enough to go all Ann Coulter on the middle east. And saying that wouldn't have been collective punishment would be mere sophistry. And I'd say justified because if people in those countries really didn't want terrorism to happen they could be doing a heck of a lot more to stop it, instead they encourage it.
Posted by: John Morris at July 12, 2013 03:34 PM
Posted by: Bill at July 12, 2013 04:02 PM
Posted by: JusCruzn at July 12, 2013 06:26 PM
Thus I am still sitting on the porch, wearing out rockers, waiting for the jihad that they keep promising to show up here.
So No, I am not out trying to kill all muslims.
Posted by: Kafiroon at July 12, 2013 06:44 PM
This same mentality is why George Zimmerman is being prosecuted.
"It's the same mentality which leads to terrorism. You hurt random
people who represent a group in order to send a message of fear to that
GZ did that? to the no limit WHAT?
Posted by: jb at July 12, 2013 08:56 PM
Posted by: Pastorius at July 13, 2013 09:55 AM
Well... at this point, they don't know who set the bomb. Premature detonation? Someone getting back at the muslims for killing this guy? Who knows... I do believe, however, that the pushing of the muslim culture will come to a point where people will feel like they have no other alternative but to strike back. Some of that striking backwill be violent, otherswill be passive. Same could be said of imposition of progressive (oppressive?) government. People can only take so much crap. The way they butchered that guy in the street, with no fear, no remorse, well, I imagine that pushed a bunch of people over the edge.
In the end, I do not believe that a majority by islam can co-exist with a free people. Show me where it is. All the PC most-are-peaceful messages don't mean a thing when you are being run over in broad daylight and having your head sawed off while a bunch of unarmed sheep stand and watch.
Posted by: PaterNovem at July 13, 2013 10:52 AM
Cry for them as you wish, I have better things to do.
Posted by: Doom at July 14, 2013 02:45 PM
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