Ironical: Germany Bans Islamofascist Groups

Germany has banned three Islamist groups which have a goal of replacing democracy with Islamic law:

Germany said on Wednesday it had banned three Islamist Salafist groups which officials said aimed to sweep aside democracy and set up a system based on Sharia Islamic law.

The interior ministry said the bans, which come amid stepped-up observation of the Salafist community in Germany, took effect early Wednesday in the western states of Hesse and North Rhine-Westphalia.

The targeted organizations are "DawaFFM" and "Islamische Audios", as well as "An-Nussrah", which is part of the "Millatu Ibrahim" group that was already banned in June, a ministry statement said.

Searches were carried out at the homes of 20 people and property was seized, it added.

The reason this is ironical is that banning political groups is itself an act of fascism, even when the groups you ban are themselves antithetical to freedom. And yes, I know the Germans ban all such movements dating back to their Nazi past, but I just like the idea of some bureaucrat deciding which political movements are okay and which are against the law.

Today a bunch of Salaafi thugs who want to ban alcohol, tomorrow who's to say it won't be the Tea Party?

Oh well, even though I'm against such move in principle it's hard to be moved to anger when the groups being oppressed kinda deserve a good ass kicking.

Posted by: Rusty at 02:15 PM


1 I don't see any irony. Par for the game as islam does call for replacement of electable democratic government with caliphate, which Tea Party does not call for. When they'll start banning elements of democracy, I'll become concerned. Islam is not one of those, it is not even religion to begin with.

Posted by: HerWrath at March 14, 2013 02:50 PM

2 German law respecting fascists differs from ours, due to the great compromise to settle World War II, where many thousands of Nazi sympathizers were allowed to escape prosecution, provided they refrain from denying that the Nazi regime had committed the crimes it did, and refrain from defending it.

At the time, the Nazis were allied with the people who would eventually form the basis for today's Islamism, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Hamas. To the Germans, the Islamists must look remarkably like Nazis in religious garb.

Posted by: VALERIE at March 14, 2013 03:06 PM

3 So they'll change their name, get new stationary and continue with the same goals. Ban people, not social clubs; house guests who announce their intention to start a bonfire in the living room can be asked to leave.

And as President Polk said, "the Constitution is not a suicide girls poster." (And by 'asked to leave' i mean 'abandoned in the sahara.')

Posted by: Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder at March 14, 2013 03:06 PM

4 Rusty, I understand where your coming from, but the problem is that the Islamofacists would have no problem and don't in banning anyone not of their ilk. Sometimes you have to lose a liver to save the patient.

Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at March 14, 2013 03:17 PM

5 SSGB, so cynical. Yes, they will play musical letterheads and websites and get leftist scum to defend them. They remain islamonazis and need a dirt nap.

Posted by: Mark at March 14, 2013 05:29 PM

6 Of course, if they did do such a thing to the Tea Party in this country I'd get to meet you all in person on various work details around the camp.

Posted by: Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder at March 14, 2013 08:56 PM

7 I don't think I'll survive the 'purge' to make it to the camps, SSGB.
I thought the MFM 'progressives' had all ready banned the Tea Party.
Isn't Glorious leader trying to ban Fox News too?

Posted by: Kafiroon at March 14, 2013 10:45 PM

8 @ SSGB and Kafiroon: he can ban whatever he likes. There are those in this country that will fight and do whatever it takes to try and keep this country free if ever a tyrannical government arises. We may be small in numbers compared to the government, but we are growing everyday.

Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at March 15, 2013 06:31 AM

9 Why is this an "IRONY". These people wish to change the German form of Law. The German people like any other in the world would naturally ban such movements. Wouldn't America?
I take this as a smear against the great German people. An ally of America.
If it isn't a smear then please explain why you believe a modern industrial free country who bans a radical group dedicated to changing their government is an IRONY.

Posted by: Essex at March 15, 2013 07:00 AM

10 The problem in Germany is that the medieval tithe system was replaced by a government tax.

If you register in Germany as anything other than an atheist, the state collects a tithe as well as a tax, and distributes it to your church.

In order to not give state funds to undesirables, like Scientologists, and violent islamics, the German government needs to classify them as a criminal organization, and not a church.

Posted by: Kristophr at March 15, 2013 12:56 PM

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