Video: 100 Egyptian Christians Arrested in Benghazi, Some Tortured & Killed
A video report from an Egyptian website claims that 100 Coptic Christians from Egypt have been arrested for the "crime" of fulfilling their Christian duty and spreading the gospel. Some reports claim that the video shows "Islamist elements" holding the Christian prisoners, but the news report itself claims that it was officials of the Libyan government. Or as the Google translation puts it, "Libyan government accusing them of proselytizing".Given that the line between government officials and Islamist militias is a hazy one in parts of Libya -- especially Benghazi, where they were "arrested" -- it's not clear to me which one is accurate. But would it be out of character for the Libyans to arrest Christians for this "crime"? Earlier this month four foreigners, including an American, were nicked for proselytizing. The penalty of which can be as severe as death. In any case, the report also claims that the Christians have been tortured by those holding them and that some of them were killed while trying to escape. And lest you think these men were in Libya as Christians, the report also suggests that they were in the country to work as contractors, many of them in professional positions. Here's the video. The men on the floor with the shaved heads are the captive Christians. Notice the Christian literature being shown as evidence of the "crime".
Islam will be banned some coming day as being incompatible with Civilization. I just wonder how many people have to be enslaved/murdered by them before that happens.
Posted by: chinfingst at February 28, 2013 05:42 PM
Posted by: chinfingst at February 28, 2013 05:43 PM
Posted by: EROWMER at February 28, 2013 06:17 PM
Wish I had an answer. I don't. They are committed to this religion. So much so that it has become a way of life. Their conviction is much more than what is referred to as modern western society. They don't care about the money, the power, their countries, their families. The teachings of their prophet is the foremost thing in their lives. Food, housing, wealth, family all comes some where down the line.
Most (as the election showed) believe they have the right to practice the principles of their religion. FREEDOM OF RELIGION as the cry goes. The big fear being if you slap the handcuffs on one religion you open the door to do it to all religions.
I don't know the answer. But I see this threat to freedom growing and growing. They have all the cards. It may be possible to work things out with Muslim immigrants by a strong stand in favor of the separation of Church and State but you will never work out the question of Israel/Palestine. That issue is the Muslim rallying post.
While eating chicken wings and drinking beer a guy I was bullshitting with asks me this. (he was a liberal attempting to hide it). I said the damn Muslims would be better off by separating their religion and overnments. He answered you ask that of the Muslims but not of the Israelis. Normally I don't lose many arguments but that one cost me a beer. This I know. Letting them have their way to shut them up merely makes it harder to shut them up the next time.
Posted by: Frank at February 28, 2013 07:04 PM
religion and overnments. He answered you ask that of the Muslims but not
of the Israelis."
Here's what you could have told him. The Israeli's for all intents have a democratic type government where all the religions in the area can practice in peace without being harrassed about it, with Judaism the main religion. The issue with the Palestinians is a separate issue, and is not based on religion, but land, although the Pali's want to make everyone think it isn't. The problem with Islam is that it is a complete system where the religion is the government and the government is the religion. You don't find that in Judaism, nor in Israel. In other words, the Israeli's aren't going around telling people you either convert, leave or die which is a big difference and you wouldn't have lost your beer.
Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at February 28, 2013 09:57 PM
And earlier today, Secretary of State Kerry's new Syrian (rebel) BFF, said we shouldn't worry about the "beards".
What we worry ???
Posted by: 11B40 at March 01, 2013 12:32 AM
Posted by: Doug at March 01, 2013 02:20 AM
However, the point was separation between Church and State. Not what states do when they don't have that separation. Your example merely proves what can happen without separation of Church and State. It can go either way and politics change with the wind. I remain a fan of total separation of Church and State.
Posted by: Frank at March 01, 2013 07:12 AM
Posted by: Bill54 at March 01, 2013 09:05 AM
If a restaurant has a no smoking rule it doesn't apply to the guy who smokes filter cigarettes with less nicotine.
I ain't buying it. Without separation of Church and State the religious bullies will always control the country. Check history. Doesn't matter what religion. Christian, Muslim or Jewish. The result is always the same. VIOLENCE and sufferin for those that don't agree. Why should it be different now?
Posted by: War Machine at March 01, 2013 10:39 AM
It simply says: The Bill of Rights:
Posted by: Kafiroon at March 01, 2013 11:51 AM
It simply says: The Bill of Rights: Amendment I
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
That means: NO OFFICIAL RELIGION.
Posted by: Kafiroon at March 01, 2013 11:54 AM
Posted by: Kafiroon at March 01, 2013 11:55 AM
Posted by: occam at March 01, 2013 12:53 PM
Ha, ha, ha.
It's the devil. He makes me do it.
And what's with you always coming with the same old shit about allowing everyone with a problem to come here. What's your message. You are allowed to come out and say it. Just takes a little balls.
I detect some type of minority that doesn't feel people are treated equally. Well Occam they aren't and there's a damn good reason for it. Coming here isn't the solution to the internal problems of every nation in the world. Perhaps even more people should remain in their countries and fight to make them better.
But I'm a racist so I may see things different than a liberal. Where we differ is that us racists believe you liberals can still be good people.
Posted by: War Machine at March 01, 2013 03:47 PM
Posted by: War Machine at March 01, 2013 03:56 PM
Posted by: Mistress Overdone at March 01, 2013 09:28 PM
Keep in mind that Al Queda had no idea the towers would fall.
They don't have a concerted plan. This is why I fear the Muslim Brotherhood. The Brotherhood has the potential of gathering Muslim countries together under one banner. Still not a big deal for the west but could be curtains for Israel. A small land mass like Israel could be overrun overnight. Thanks to Obama Egypt has some serious weaponry. Syria also. If Jordan was to fall to the Muslim Brotherhood it would be oh shit time. The Saudis would have to pick a side and Muslims have a tendency to stick together when they have a common enemy. The danger of Jordan falling to the Muslim Brotherhood continues to be ignored by the west. Apparently, the experts never look at a map.
Posted by: War Machine at March 02, 2013 04:01 AM
Meanwhile, Dennis Rodman and the Harlem Glove Trotters are in North Korea giving them some love.
Posted by: War Machine at March 02, 2013 04:14 AM
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