Something in My Pants Just Moved

Science fiction meets science reality as this video proves that you can, in fact, 3D print an AR-15 lower receiver and that it does, in fact, work.

Go ahead, ban "assault rifles". We'll just make our own.

Question for readers: I know 3-D printers are still pretty expensive, but what about the idea of pooling money and buying a single printer as a group? Are there any groups out there doing this?

Posted by: Rusty at 03:13 PM

Comments

1 But...if they ban ownership of these weapons the ability to make them yourself becomes academic. Here in the UK its over ten years in prison for pillegal posession. One hint of posession and they arrive in van-loads to smash down your door and ransack your house. If you have TOY guns they take them away for analysis. Maybe amid fear of losing gun ownership rights, bad enough in itself, you fail to grasp just how extreme it can get.
You now have a police force that arrests schoolgirls for doodling on their desk. Dont you think they would love a pop at illegal gun owners. Once they ban those guns, thats it, end of story.
Remember what happenned at Waco.

Posted by: Axel at February 28, 2013 03:46 PM

2 Axel, that fails in the states.

Posession of an unregistered NFA item is similarly illegal, yet there are at least 10x as many unregistered NFA items as registered ones.

Drugs are illegal to posses too, and that isn't working either.

Waco was a PR disaster for the involved agencies, despite being conducted on a cult after said cult committed murder.

Illegal moonshiners are still common in many areas too.

Posted by: cloaked im mystery at February 28, 2013 03:56 PM

3 Also, in the US it's the receiver that has the serial # on it. So, to buy the receiver you mostly need to do it through a licensed gun dealer. All the other parts are accessories, that can be bought without the government getting involved.

So, you print your own receiver and then buy the rest and you have an AR-15, even if the gun ban goes through. (which it won't)

I know people have been talking about this for some time, and I've seen the videos of the printing, but this is the first one I've seen showing a printed lower actually being used. Pretty sweet!

Posted by: Rusty at February 28, 2013 04:21 PM

4 Also, for those who own rare/obselete guns, the groups making cad libraries of parts online could be a huge benefit, while many older designs are not easily adaptable to plastic parts, a printed form can be used for lost wax casting to make parts that cannot be easily machined without castings.

Posted by: cloaked in mystery at February 28, 2013 04:34 PM

5 Look around a bit there's a few companies making their own open source 3d printers that use ABS ribbons, and you can get those for under $1500.

Posted by: Eli at February 28, 2013 05:41 PM

6 I saw this technology over a decade ago and now its reaching consumer stage.

I guess the range of available plastic is such that the things will hold up to normal use - not good to bang it on something and it shatters spilling your bullets on the ground.

Posted by: chinfingst at February 28, 2013 05:47 PM

7 Unfortunaytely like minded commies like obama are trying to institute house checks to verify you registered guns.

They will try (and worse) and I hope it leads to these commies end in america.

Posted by: chinfingst at February 28, 2013 05:48 PM

8 Axel @ 1- I hate to say this, but Waco (and Ruby Ridge) were practice runs.

Posted by: EROWMER at February 28, 2013 06:26 PM

9 And they didn't (murder) anyone until attacked first. The four hundred or so agents could have used the telephone instead of tanks. What happened at Waco was that some idiots in the ATF decided that no one can tell them no and they killed 80 something people to prove it. I think many of the agents and that ugly lesbian bitch Janet Reno who ordered the attack should have been charged convicted and gone to prison for a long time. I could give a shit about the religious fanatic adults but the children were unnecessarily slaughtered in a horrible painful way. Hold a match to your finger for 5 seconds. Then imagine that pain over your entire body for minutes.

Posted by: Sal at February 28, 2013 07:39 PM

10 Pieces and parts for MGs such as the M60 have been available for years. Blanks for the registered parts also, just make some bends, drill some holes and go to prison for 10 years. I have never been tempted. Doubtless, others have done the deed.

Posted by: Mark at February 28, 2013 07:45 PM

11 I think one or two folk have slightly misinterpreted my comment. In the UK there are very few legally owned true firearms (although air-guns are classed as firearms in the UK and also heavily regulated) but vast numbers of illegal weapons.If you say there are 10x as many illegal as legal firearms in the US then in the UK it must be like around 1000x as many because there are so few legal ones.As Ive mentioned before, in parts of the town where I live gunfights have been so common that police have on occasion routinely patrolled on foot carrying sub-machine guns at the ready as a deterrent. No, bans do not stop CRIMINALS from possessing that which is banned. But the police cant locate the criminals so they instead harrass anyone that a neighbour or a guy up the street has suggested might possess a firearm. They use the terrorising of non-gun-possessing citizens as a way of sending out a message.
Theproposed law is only the very thin end of a very big wedge. Until 1987 it was possible in the UK to legally own an AK47. By 2007 it had become necessary to have a special permit to buy a realistic plastic toy. Just twenty years and two mass shootings (Hungerford and Dunblaine).
Your police will do like the UK police, given the opportunity, they will find it very easy to harrass and terrorise ordinary citizens whilst relatively incapable of disarming criminals.They will take any easy option the laws give them to seem to be doing something to please their liberal masters and send out a "message".
The example of Waco is this: when the police start raiding folk in search of rumoured banned components or weapons, what you gonna do, fight them? Just what the Left want.

Posted by: Axel at February 28, 2013 08:13 PM

12 Come a complete gun ban and yes, I foresee groups getting a 3-d printer and making their own weaponry. It will a completely underground system, but what the government doesn't know won't hurt them until it's too late.

Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at February 28, 2013 08:53 PM

13 There are not 10x as many illegal firearms, just as 10x many illegal NFA firearms. (this includes short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, machine guns, grenades, artillery, ect)

Basically, it is easier to get these things illegaly than legally, and unless you do something very stupid, the chance of being caught is minimal, thus there are plenty in black market circulation.

However, in much of the country, unless someone is already under investigation for a crime, or it is suspected of being stolen, the police simply do not care. (yes if you are stupid enough to show it to them./brag, you may be going to jail)

Very few local police are going to bother investigating claims of "illegal firearms" unless there is some other sort of criminal activity involved.

During the 10 years of 1994 awb, violations were rampant, and blatant, but only a couple of dozen people were ever prosecuted, most being caught while committing a more serious crime.

Just like the drug laws in many areas, local police in the states generally do not aggressively enforce laws that are not supported by the locals, and almost all law enforcement is local.

Posted by: cloaked in mystery at February 28, 2013 08:59 PM

14 I think it might be easier to print certain small fiddly bits that don't have the same stresses as a lower.

Posted by: irish19 at February 28, 2013 10:24 PM

15 fire control parts should work too, plastic ones already exist, some ar's have them, PS90, FS200, ect.

someone not concerned with legality could likely print a functional DIAS as well.

Im not sure how long such parts would last, the mass produced plastic FCG parts are glass filled nylon, but if it only has to work long enough to aquire something better....




Posted by: cloaked in mystery at February 28, 2013 11:26 PM

16 I've had a change of heart about 3D printed weapons. Initially I was certain that they would never be as durable or reliable as traditional metal firearms and I didn't take them seriously.

Now I think durability and reliability don't really matter, not when you can print as many as you need and throw away or refab worn weapons. It's going to take some adjustment for us to get used to disposable firearms. The era of metal weapons we prize so highly and pass down to our kids may be over. That won't happen overnight, and nothing is certain, but we could be on the cusp of a major change in the way we own and use weapons - and not from regulation, but from mass availability at ultra low costs.

There's just too much money to be made in 3D weapons to prevent them from being developed. Hell, look at the number of weapons bought since last Thanksgiving - those same people will drive the market in 3D firearms.

Eventually we'll be able to choose from several grades of plastic based in the part being made. We may never see 100% plastic firearms, but I wouldn't rule it out entirely either. Meanwhile, we'll be able to build metal/plastic hybrids: expect a healthy 3rd party industry to spring up selling metal "repair kits" for all your favorite boomsticks.

Of course, this will change everything about security as we know it. Metal detectors may become obsolete. New weapons will be developed that look and function completely differently from anything we've seen before. People could be armed without any visible indication, and when you don't know who's armed, it's best to assume everyone is. That could change the way society operates entirely - and for the better.

I'm not claiming this is absolutely going to happen, but who could have predicted the home PC and a military network project would lead to what is essentially the only Conservative media in the country?

If you haven't heard of it, this site is worth a visit just to keep up with the rapid changes in 3D firearms printing: http://defcad.org/

Molon Labe

Posted by: Xavier at March 01, 2013 07:02 AM

17 cmon hook that up to a slide fire and freak em out

Posted by: john doesky at March 01, 2013 07:43 AM

18 @13: "However, in much of the country, unless someone is already under investigation for a crime, or it is suspected of being stolen, the police simply do not care. (yes if you are stupid enough to show it to them./brag, you may be going to jail) "


BUT...this is the crux of the issue.The police probably had the same attitude in the UK thirty years ago. Theres been a change of culture. The proposed US law is part of the same change of culture in the USA. As is the media war on guns. Its only the beginning. If you let them take that path then in ten or twenty years the situation you describe will have changed and in a couple of decades itll be like it is in the UK, where criminals have easy access to firearms but the police are Draconian in their pursuit of ordinary citizens rumoured to possess such a thing. This is what the proponents of the law want to "achieve".

Posted by: Axel at March 01, 2013 09:07 AM






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