Stop the Occupation of .... Kurdistan

How come the UN spends so much time on the Palestinian "problem" when it spends precisely zero time on so many other "occupations"?

For instance, the Kurds are a stateless people who are not Arabs. This is unlike the Palestinians who are ethnically & linguistically no different than Jordanians, Syrians, or Egyptians. Palestinians are simply Arabs in areas once claimed by Arab countries but which got their asses kicked and were forced to renounce those claims.

The Kurds are not just our allies -- through mutual interest -- they are our friends. Want to meet a population of Muslims who love America and hates Islamism? Go to Kurdistan.

And if we are were a better friend, we'd immediately recognize a separate Kurdish state. But that's not going to happen.

Maybe we can get Israel to invade Kurdistan so there would be immediate outrage and UN recognition? Think of it like a friendly lawsuit, where those being invaded actually collude with the invaders.

Hey, it could happen:

A hundred miles from Baghdad, tanks are facing off across a frontline defined not by an international border but by ethnic enmity, fuelled by past bloodshed and future oil wealth, that risks tearing Iraq apart. The sun-blazoned flag of Kurdistan flies from the turrets of Soviet-built armoured vehicles, seized a decade ago from Saddam Hussein’s army, their barrels now aimed at the unseen forces of Iraq’s national government on the far side of Tuz Khurmato, a town beyond the formal boundary of the Kurds’ autonomous region.

For three weeks, Kurdish “peshmerga” and soldiers of Baghdad’s Arab army, have been reinforcing positions in the “disputed territories”, a long, ill-defined swathe of northern Iraq, rich in oil and communal complexity, where the federal government and Kurdish leaders based in Erbil vie for control.

I get why we wanted to keep Iraq together while we were still there. But now that we're gone, the only thing holding us back are ... the Turks? Turkey is important to us .... why, again?

Posted by: Rusty at 02:31 PM


1 Kurds were responsible, as lackeys of the Ottoman Turks, for massacres of Armenians, and other Christian peoples around the turnof the last century. The Kurds will only be our allies until it is convenient to do otherwise, just like the Taliban, et al. Muslims will always be Muslims.

Posted by: mikeh420 at December 08, 2012 03:29 PM

2 Fuck the Turks. Free Hagia Sophia.

Posted by: Randman at December 08, 2012 04:48 PM

3 Spent some time in Kurdistan while on deployment in Iraq. I do not dispute that the Kurds turnd a blind eye to atrocities in Armenia but they had their own problems to deal with. Germany tried to exterminate all Jews but now they are one of our best allies. My experiences in Kurdistan led me to believe that these people are much more stable than the Arabs in the rest of Iraq and we could definitely use a good allie in the Middle East when it is becoming more apparent that we don't have many. Being that they populate areas in Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran, these people and the Peshmerga could become very helpful in the near future.

Posted by: PJ at December 08, 2012 06:23 PM

4 On the general point, of course you are right, when has a Greek Cypriot ever conducted a hijacking to protest the seizure of their land, homes and country by the Turkish military in 1974? Daft question. The two situations are totally different, I mean the Greek Cypriots are a civilised people.
But as for the Kurds? Hmmm, well they genitally mutilate the majority of their females, they practice "honour" killings, they are over here waging gang war over drugs, prostitution, weaponsor some vileother shit...exactly the same as their "enemies" and co-religionists really. Could we by their deeds ever tell them apart?
I recently chatted atapub with a young woman who disdainfully said "I know what Islams like, I grew up in an Islamic place". I asked where...thinking, Dubai, Saudi, Lebanon? Shesaid " was a Kurdish district".
If you think these are somehow the loveable righteousextras from Lawrence of Arabia you are talking about...remember that there were also so-called "good" NAZIs.
They are our "friends" only in as much as Bin Laden and Al Qaida were our "friends" back when it suited them.
Dont squander your sympathy.

Posted by: Axel at December 08, 2012 06:58 PM

5 Free East Prussia! /s

Posted by: forest at December 08, 2012 07:31 PM

6 I would not thnk twice about carving a Kurdish state out of Iran, Turkey and Syria. Can anyone imagine Comrade Spineless doing this? How many lllegals do the Kurds have in the US?

Posted by: Mark at December 08, 2012 08:13 PM

7 ...on the side issue, flippancy aside, I do think Turkey is going to become a very big problem in the decades to come. On the one hand they pose as the cornerstone of a new caliphate, on the other they are now edging towards membership of the EU and because of their size, that would give them huge influence over the rest of the union. Plus their population is embedded throughout Western Europe.
But more than that, we need to remember the generally overlooked fact that Turkey already has nuclear weapons in a form capable of deployment. About 70 B61 weapons,"loaned" by the US during the ColdWar for use by the Turkish air force and to this day in the possession of the Turkish military at Incirlik.
Turkey expresses solidarity with Iran but all the while is engaged in a Mediterranean rivalry with them. If Iran (why do we still say "if") gets nuclear weapons Turkeys easiest responsewill be to render those B61s operational. When that happens, Turkey becomes an Islamic nuiclear power on the European continent. This will change everything, globally.

Posted by: Axel at December 09, 2012 07:57 AM

8 As people have said, the Kurds will only be our friends as long as it suits them, and then they will hate us because they are muslims. But there is one VERY good reason to support them - KAOS. There is no hope for peace with the arab/muslim world. Their religion is such, that there can only be hatred and war from them. Our best outcome is civil war between all of them on a massive scale.

Posted by: gfm at December 09, 2012 08:22 AM

9 As long as Erdogan is in charge of Turkey, Turkey will continue to be a big problem both against the Kurds and against the US. We all must remember that it's me against my brother, me and my brother against our father, our family against our uncles and all of us against the infidal.

Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at December 09, 2012 09:09 AM

10 Super aphorism Moshe, I shall try to remmber that, though it may come out with some muddled relationships if I retell it in haste!

Posted by: Axel at December 09, 2012 11:04 AM

11 @Axel: all you have to remember is us against the infidal. If your not part of the Ummah, your an infidal.

Posted by: Moshe Ben Avram at December 09, 2012 11:26 AM

Hey Mark how about going over here and showing Obama what should be done. Everybody always seems to want the other guys to do what THEY think shouild be done.

Posted by: occam at December 09, 2012 01:43 PM

The writer of this piece lacks the basic historical information. The land which he called occupied is truely occupied but by the kurds. The legitimate owners of the land are the Assyrians. It seems that the writer is just another bugle for the kurds who want to force the kurds in an area which does not belong to them. I advise the writer and all those who are falsely promoting the kurds, to return to their conscience (if they have one) and to side with the truth and historical facts which deny any historical existence for the kurds in northern Iraq except as comapnions of previous invaders.
No one until this moment knows where the kurds came from, not even the kurds themselves know that.

Posted by: Simel at December 09, 2012 02:14 PM

14 Apparently no one watched the documentary called Good Kurds, Bad Kurds. There's two sides to everything.

Posted by: Warmachine at December 09, 2012 08:22 PM

15 14, Warmachine, I didnt seethateither but it sounds like it goes back to my earlier comment: "good" NAZI / "bad" NAZI : they were all NAZIs.

Posted by: Axel at December 10, 2012 05:59 AM

16 So I take it that you believe all Kurds are bad Kurds. This is not true. I once did a cutey Kurd chick in Modesto Cali who was very good. I later heard that her brothers weren't so good so I left Modesto for greener pastures.

I was going to say she was hot. But hot Kurd just sounds to much like hot turd. Being straight I do hot Kurds but leave the hot turds to the turd packers in San Francisco.

Posted by: Warmachine at December 10, 2012 05:59 PM

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