Canada Going Wobbly?

Apparently Canada's version of The Patriot Act was gutted today. The Canadian Coalition for Democracies sent out this press release, below. I don't follow America Jr.'s politics very closely, but Canada is simply infested with radical jihad followers. And since we share the largest unguarded border in the world with them, it is in our national interest to see that Canada takes the threat of terrorism seriously.

What really prompted me to post this press release was that it mentions that at least 50 terrorist groups are now operating in Canada. I don't know how accurate that statistic is, but I can certainly verify that jihad supporters are all over The Great White North thanks to decades of liberal immigration laws. For instance, our friends the terror supporters over at Jihad Unspun are in Canada. And where there are jihad supporters, you are bound to find a healthy subpopulation of jihadis willing and able to carry out domestic terror operations.

Ottawa, Canada - Today, the Liberal opposition lead by Stéphane Dion joined with the other Opposition parties to kill two provisions of Canada Anti-Terrorism Act that were passed into law by the Liberal government of Jean Chrétien in 2002. With all the hyperbole generated by these provisions, it is essential that Canadians understand their implications and judge for themselves if today's vote was a win for human rights or for those plotting acts of terror in Canada.

The "preventative arrest" provision is an appropriate and constitutional response to today's mass-casualty terrorist threat. This provision allows police to detain persons whom they believe "on reasonable grounds" to be about to commit an act of terror. Within one day, or as soon as constitutionally possible, the detainee must be brought before a judge to validate the detention.

The other provision authorizes the use of "investigative hearings" to require a person who has material knowledge of a terrorist act to be examined by a judge with regard to information that may prevent a planned attack or help identify the perpetrators of a past attack. Again, the law requires "reasonable grounds" to proceed. Moreover, it allows the person in question to have counsel, and prohibits the use of information drawn from the person to be used against that individual in any later criminal proceedings, save for reasonable exceptions relating to perjury and associated offences.

CSIS has identified over 50 terrorist groups operating on Canadian soil and over $256 million have been identified by FINTRAC in 2005/2006 as having possible links to terrorism [ed. emphasis mine]. Today, Canadians lost vital tools needed to stop a massacre before it happens and to compel those with knowledge of terrorist activity to disclose such vital information to a judge.

CCD notes with deep concern the record of the Liberal Party in relation to several terrorism issues. These issues include its opposition for thirteen years while in government to proposals for a judicial inquiry into the Air India bombing, its refusal to ban Hezbollah until finally being forced to do so by court action, and its refusal to list the notorious Tamil Tigers as a terrorist organization. And now in Opposition, the Liberals are further weakening our ability to break up terrorist cells and prevent the kind of massacres of civilians that have occurred in London, Madrid, New York, Amsterdam, and countless other cities. Along with other elements of the public record, these matters raise grave questions about whether the Liberal leadership is pandering to radical religious and ethno-cultural voting blocks at the expense of Canadians' safety and security.

"For over a decade, the Liberals ignored pleas from victims' families for an inquiry into the Air India bombing," said David Harris, Senior Fellow for National Security for CCD. "Today's vote ordered by Stéphane Dion may have effectively killed the ongoing police investigation by making it impossible to compel testimony from material witnesses. One must question the determination of the Liberals to leave unexamined the worst act of airline terror in history and its bungled 20-year prosecution, and to abandon those whose lives were shattered by this atrocity."

"Liberal leaders' continuing disregard for the innocent terror victims of Canada, Sri Lanka, Lebanon, Israel and India triggers disturbing concerns about the price politicians are willing to pay for votes," said Alastair Gordon, President of CCD. "By opposing extension of their own Party's anti-terrorism provisions at a time when Canada is specifically targeted by bin Laden and Islamic extremism, Liberals owe Canadians an explanation. Is the risk to Canadians' safety and security to be regarded as just another reasonable trade-off in the struggle for political power?"

Posted by: Rusty at 08:20 PM


1 If you'd like to know more about terrorism in Canada, the book Cold Terror by Stewart Bell is a real eye-opener.

Posted by: Kafir at February 27, 2007 09:39 PM

2 Oh No ! does this mean that Canadian Bacon will be turning into Freedom Bacon ?

Posted by: JOHN RYAN at February 27, 2007 09:47 PM

3 Canadian Bacon has always BEEN freedom bacon. Don't be a snot rag!They can't help having liberals any more than we can. France has some other issues that DO affect thier national psychology. Also there is the matter of the oil fields Saddam was going to give the French. One of these things is not like the other.

USA, all the way! and a wave to Canada, our good neighbor.

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 27, 2007 11:12 PM

4 DON'T WORRY, be happy. This is just a stupid political fight, that will get straightened out. The previous party in power (Liberals) set up these laws, and they were badly written, but adequate. Now the Conservatives turfed out the Libs, and so vindictively, the Libs vote against the laws they wrote! The Conservatives will stay in power at least long enough to redraft the laws so they can stand up if there is a Supreme Court challenge. Does all this sound a bit familiar to you Americans?
THE WORST problems with Canadian anti-terror laws are that they are sometimes too tough and too vague, even for the pro-democracy right. E.G.: putting someone in jail indefinitely because, although he/she is not a terrorist, "you don't trust them very much". Obviously the laws need a re-write.

Posted by: DemocracyRules at February 27, 2007 11:50 PM

5 The french have never quite gotten over not being a world power since.... Napoleon? They have caused the US a great deal of grief. Vietnam, harboring the ayatolla assholea, One could say that the way the french treated the Germans after WWI is what caused WWII. Nice girls though if you're not too particular about ... baths.
Cajun girls rule however. (We used to think it was the heat and the humidity then we realized it was the just the Jack Daniels....)

I suppose it's safe to say that liberals from anywhere hate the USA..

Posted by: wb at February 27, 2007 11:55 PM

6 SINCE WHEN DO CANADIANS DISLIKE AMERICANS? Please remember that Canada has a left-wing MSM just like yours, and stories from the Canadian MSM are mostly biassed, misleading, or outright false. The average Canadian has great affection and respect for Americans. Check out Small Dead You watch our back, and we watch yours (NORAD, for example). We did everything we could to convince the US to join WWII, because we knew it had to be done. We declared war immediately in Sept, '39, the US not until Dec, '41. For six long years, we had military factories everywhere, building bombers, bombsights, bombs, armoured vehicles, guns, and ammunition, while others made blankets, uniforms, or socks. Women pilots ferried Canadian-built military aircraft to Britain, and men pilots flew Spitfires, Hurricanes, and Lancasters, fighting and dying in the battle of Britain, and endless bombing missions over Germany. By mid-1940, Britain and Canada mostly fought alone in the Western hemisphere. Massive ship convoys went to Britain, while U-Boats decimated them. We fed France. In Normandy, we cleared our beach in 15 minutes. We kicked the shit out of the 12th SS Panzer Division to hold a key weak point in the Normandy line. In Korea, we were there, and we helped a lot in that effort, dying to save American and South Korean lives. We tried to talk you out of Vietnam, but we were always on your side, and approximately 10,000 Canadians volunteered for the US military, and many fought in Vietnam. Our dead appear on your Vietnam war memorial. Canadians are in Afghanistan right now, kicking butt, with kill ratios of 50 to 1 and higher. Of course Canada and the US bicker -- most brothers do, and don’t piss off your tough little brother. We kicked your asses out of Canada in the war of 1812, took Fort Detroit and held it, and with the British, took Washington, drove your president into the woods, let the local people loot his mansion, and gutted it with fire. The stone was so charred, the repair crews had to paint it white. Historians are still trying to recover the furniture. Serves you right for attacking Toronto. Next time you look at the White House, be glad that Canada is your friend, and that we also invented peacekeeping. We are with you through thick and thin, we see eye to eye with the US on almost every important issue, and we are proud be your friends and allies.

PS, We have SEVEN TIMES as much OIL as Saudi Arabia, and we are killing ourselves to get it out of the ground ASAP to sell it to you at fair, stable prices, no gouging, steady supply, it's what good neighbors, and good business people do....

Posted by: DemocracyRules at February 28, 2007 12:27 AM

7 I don't remember seeing any Canadians around in Korea...... were you in supply ?

Posted by: wb at February 28, 2007 01:00 AM

8 IdiocracyRules:Your "stupid political fight" has resulted in terrorist groups operating in the Great White Wasteland with legal sanction. Good on yer.'The jihadis in Canada are fighting the same fight you describe as "political" that the terrorists in iraq are fighting. Try again, asswipe.Canadians have been put in jail "indefinitely" for all of your boring country's history. Why is it a problem now that psychotic jihadist vermin have to face the same laws every real Canadian does? Hmm?You couldn't possibly be motivated by suicidally stupid leftism, could you? Marxist idiot.The average Canadian is a self righteous prig who doesn't know the difference between politeness and snobbery. Your vile media reflect public opinion in the Arctic Suckhole quite accurately.Canadians felt free to oppose Hitler because they knew they were beyond his reach. How many troops were sent to Europe before America responded to the German and Japanese declarations of war?That's what I thought, asshole.America fed and armed europe, not Canada. Canada has to import food just to feed its boring population. The Canadian invasion point of Normandy Beach was on the fringe--America and Britain did the heavy lifting. Mainly America. Check the troopmusters and casualties. Check the results each force accomplished.The 10,000 Canadians who fought in the Vietnam war are a thing of the past. Where are the 10,000 canadians fighting in Iraq?You twits love to claim that you beat America in war, but it's all bullshit. America kicked Britain's ass in the War of 1812, and magnaminiously ALLOWED its Commonwealth holdings to remain intact. America didn't want to govern shitty frozen tundra filled with Limeys and Frogs when the American West was wide open.Keep telling youself that you won something. The terrorists taking over your weak-ass country say otherwise.Canada fucks America in nearly every international dispute. It has for decades now.Canada has no proven oil reserves to match saudi Arabia's. Your largest nominal reserveslie under permafrost in the summer, and impenetrable ice in the Winter. You haven't been able to tap them, and you wont be able to anytime soon.Fuck you, Dudley Do-wrong.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 28, 2007 03:49 AM

9 DemocracyRules calm down! Jeeze!

USA, all the way! and a wave to Canada, our good neighbor.

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 28, 2007 07:08 AM

10 Jeff only some Canadians are assholes. Like some Californians, and yes, even some Montanans. I am losing my typing skills tonight . Please don't fight against Canada. Despite some individuals, they are our friends. USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 28, 2007 07:10 AM

11 F**king Stéphane Dion!
How I hate that immoral stupid arsehole.

Dion is a Quebecer and Quebecers see the GWOT as something that only the English-speaking world is embroiled in and therefore not Quebec's concern.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 28, 2007 07:52 AM

12 Michael Weaver,
Right back at you.
Folks, let's not forget the thousands of Canadians fighting in Afghanistan shoulder-to-shoulder with their American and British brothers-in-arms.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 28, 2007 07:56 AM

13 This betrayal is a liberal one NOT a Canadian one.

A similar betrayal was recently perpetrated by the Dem's in the U.S. when they denied funding for prosecuting the war in Iraq.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 28, 2007 08:01 AM

14 Let's not forget that the Detriot area has a LARGE number of muslims, some of themcould just be there to hold the door open for any terrorists coming through from Ontario. Just a thought, maybe a paranoid one, but a thought nonetheless. Just hope that our open borders do not cause our downfall.

Posted by: memphis761 at February 28, 2007 09:59 AM

15 If bloggers han been on the wagon trains going west, they would of circled when attacked and then shot each other....

Posted by: wb at February 28, 2007 10:01 AM

16 Blame the liberals in all forms regardless of the country they've infested. Jeff, try acting less like a righteous assmonkey next time you decide to spout more ignorant mouthdiahrrea, k?

Posted by: MidnightSun at February 28, 2007 11:04 AM

Holey Tamoley, duCalme, duCalme!
Please, next time, insult me with factual information, my rebuttals will be more interesting.
ONE FACTUAL POINT : The Canadian oil reserves I spoke of are called Oil Sands, petroleum mixed with earth, exceeding by more than 7 times the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. They are surface-mined right now with huge scrapers, lifters, and enormous dump trucks. Super-heated steam and other methods are used to extract the petroleum, while the earth portion is returned to the natural ecology. It costs us about $12-$15/ barrel to do this. The US is relying more and more on Canadian oil imports, with current efforts to double them within about 10 years (good for USA, good for Canada). Remember the MSM will never tell you this because they WANT you to think the oil is running out, and that enemies lurk everywhere. The MSM sells papers and airtime with catastrophe reporting.

Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 01, 2007 01:05 PM

18 Midnight scum:Are you insinuating that Idiocracyrules is not a leftard? Excuse me. "Liberal."Or are you trying to claim canada is america's equal, or that canucks outperform america in all eneavors--especially warfare.Insecure assmuncher. "South Park" sucks, by the way.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at March 03, 2007 01:46 AM

19 IdiocracyRules:Thanks for making my point. Oil reserves are defined as fields that can be tapped and exported.The Canadian Oil Sands don't qualify.Saudi Arabia's proven oil reserves are far and away the world's largest.I'm not happy to report this, it's just reality.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at March 03, 2007 01:50 AM

20 South Park does not suck. Watch you're step boy. Now you're goin to far.

Posted by: wb at March 06, 2007 11:03 AM

SO WHAT happened, did a Canadian say something rude to you? The oil thing: the US gets more than 10% of its oil from Canada, so I guess those non-existent Canadian oil-sand reserves seem to be making your vehicle run alright. Note also, that, unlike Saudi Arabia, Canada is right beside you, and happy to do business with you. As for your other points, I guess you're not ready to hear my rebuttals, so later for that.

In the meantime, go ahead, hate your friends, but you are a rare pumpkin indeed. In my very many trips to the US, I am welcomed with warmth and friendship, as we do with our American visitors, and if I use Canadian-flag baggage tags, no-one beats me up.

Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 07, 2007 10:14 AM

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