Bin Laden Dead? Some More Evidence

Is Osama bin Laden Dead? A recent story by the Globe and Mail suggests just that. Considering today's news that Ayman al Zawahiri might also be dead, I'd say things are looking up. Or at the very least, hope springs something something. Anyway, we can dream, can't we?

As long-time readers know, I've believed for some time now that bin Laden is somewhere in Africa, if still alive. Specifically, the Horn of Africa.

Why Africa? One little appreciated aspect of bin Laden is that he actually believes his own press. By all accounts, there is more than a bit of Sufi mysticism surrounding bin Laden. In fact, many believe the Shiekh has supernatural foretelling powers. No Muslim would not dare call him a prophet, but something like that is how he is viewed.

And it was in Africa where bin Laden first foretold the destruction of the American empire. And it was in Mogadishu that bin Laden first saw his 'prophecies' come to pass. So, why not go back to the source of his original inspiration?

Conjecture, I know. But it makes sense. More sense than Pakistan, in my mind. That is, if he's still alive.

The Globe and Mail via The Moderate Voice:

Sporting his thick, greying beard, a black turban and metal-rimmed glasses, it was the seventh video that Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda founder and right-hand jihadist to Osama bin Laden, has recorded since June, a period during which Mr. bin Laden has made no public statements at all.

That, experts and acquaintances say, likely means something's gone awry inside al-Qaeda. Some speculate the world's second-most wanted man, a pioneer in the use of suicide bombings and martyr videos, has become the group's new No. 1.

The rest of the story is devoted to how Zawahiri hates being in the spotlight, the opposite of Osama bin Laden, and how the dearth of bin Laden and the abundance of Zawahiri videos suggest Ayman is now the man in al Qaeda---hinting that bin Laden is six feet under.

Being out of the spotlight for several years must be worse for Osama bin Laden than if the Hollywood press ignored Paris Hilton. He is a media whore of epic proportions. So, either a) he is too scared to come out of hiding b) he is hiding somewhere where media access is very limited indeed, or c) he is dead.

C has been reported scores of times, most recently in September when bin Laden was said to have died from a 'water born illness'.

A is possible, and would be grand irony indeed. But B would likely rule out Pakistan or Afghanistan given that Zawahiri is said to be somewhere along the border. If both are in the same region, then there is little explanation for why the dearth of information coming from bin Laden.

In any event, it seems that Zawahiri is the man now. If Zawahiri is not dead, that is.

Posted by: Rusty at 03:23 PM


1 Check out on aircraft carrier, and Marine corp strike groups around Iran.

Posted by: Leatherneck at October 30, 2006 05:13 PM

2 Cue October surprise from Greg and the nutroots community.

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 30, 2006 05:18 PM

3 He's been dead since Tora Bora.

The strategery of Marijuana in WWII...
"Hemp for Victory"

Posted by: Greg at October 30, 2006 05:21 PM

4 I am sure Bin Laden is in Canada, probably collecting employment insurance. ANYONE can immigrate to Canada.

Posted by: Harper's Faeries at October 30, 2006 05:39 PM

5 Bin Laden = Scottie Pippen. You know it.

How many super tall arabs are there? none. It's all a scam.

Posted by: wooga at October 30, 2006 06:04 PM

6 "
Check out on aircraft carrier, and Marine corp strike groups around Iran."

Thanks for the link Leatherneck.
It's about time the Islamic Republic had its teeth kicked in; since it's been involved in war-like activities against U.S. and Israel for more than twenty five years.

The exercise is multi-national too; ships from Canada, India and of course the U.S.

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 30, 2006 07:57 PM

7 Leatherneck,
I don't think I've ever been to before. Thanks for the tip. That's a lot of 'force projection' ready in one region!

I haven't done any study of Iran's naval capabilities since the Kuwaiti liberation. Do you know a good online reference for Iranian force composition, in general?

Oh yeah! Death to Bin laden, Zawahiri and stuff (staying on topic) and their tired little camel too!

USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 30, 2006 10:08 PM

8 I used to read, but dropped it after a while because its "news and analyses" are often very, very wrong.

As for ObL, I've been saying "he's dead" at least since about mid-2002. As you say, Rusty, he's a media whore. But there have been no high-quality video or audio recordings of him since the Taliban fell. I don't care how isolated you are, in today's world it isn't hard to get hold of a decent battery-operated videocamera or digital audio recorder that produces high-quality recordings. So why is it that all we get of bin Laden are old videos with no clear date information and low-quality audio recordings that sound like they were made on a 1970s cassette recorder?

I think he's been dead since Tora Bora and a sound-alike has been producing tapes that are intentionally low-quality in an attempt to fool our intel agencies' voice-analysis "experts."

Posted by: wolfwalker at October 31, 2006 06:05 AM

9 Wolf has:"intentionally low-quality in an attempt to fool our intel agencies' voice-analysis "experts.""

Are you sure our intel agencies aren't making the videos?

Posted by: Greg at October 31, 2006 10:07 AM

10 people . . wat you know is only what the media is sayin (WHAT AMERICA IS SAYIN) . . america and isreal are the real terrorists here . . think . .ppl . . think . . how many of you know how many muslims are diein everday in Palestine . . Irag . . Afghanistan . .Pakistan . . etc . . how many women are raped and how many children are abused . . fightin for freedom is not terrosism . . killin the innocent is terrosism . . who are the people who invade countries and doing all the killin . . think . .

Posted by: ANON at October 31, 2006 01:36 PM

11 Anon:

Stay away from sharp objects. You're so stupid i'm surprised you don't spontaneously implode.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at October 31, 2006 08:39 PM

12 Anon: You low life piece of camel shit. Who invades countries? Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, the Sudanese muslims, the Syrians, the Somalis, the Egyptians, the Iraqis and any other bull shit muslim country who thinks they can get away with it. You simple minded backward barbarian. We come to put an end to your animalistic behavior. Muslims are like little children and must be spanked for their our good. Piss be upon Mohammed.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 31, 2006 08:58 PM

13 Osama Bin Laden is living on the top floor of the worlds only 7 star hotel in Dubai.
Laughing his ass off because the muslim owners give him a better rate than Michael Jackson.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 31, 2006 10:12 PM

14 Speaking of Osama bin Laden...

One thing that struck me as odd in the days after 9/11 was Bush saying "We will not tolerate conspiracy theories [regarding 9/11]". Sure enough there have been some wacky conspiracy theories surrounding the events of that day. The most far-fetched and patently ridiculous one that I've ever heard goes like this: Nineteen hijackers who claimed to be devout Muslims but yet were so un-Muslim as to be getting drunk all the time, doing cocaine and frequenting strip clubs decided to hijack four airliners and fly them into buildings in the northeastern U.S., the area of the country that is the most thick with fighter bases. After leaving a Koran on a barstool at a strip bar after getting shitfaced drunk on the night before, then writing a suicide note/inspirational letter that sounded like it was written by someone with next to no knowledge of Islam, they went to bed and got up the next morning hung over and carried out their devious plan. Nevermind the fact that of the four "pilots" among them there was not a one that could handle a Cessna or a Piper Cub let alone fly a jumbo jet, and the one assigned the most difficult task of all, Hani Hanjour, was so laughably incompetent that he was the worst fake "pilot" of the bunch. Nevermind the fact that they received very rudimentary flight training at Pensacola Naval Air Station, making them more likely to have been C.I.A. assets than Islamic fundamentalist terrorists. So on to the airports. These "hijackers" somehow managed to board all four airliners with their tickets, yet not even ONE got his name on any of the flight manifests. So they hijack all four airliners and at this time passengers on United 93 start making a bunch of cell phone calls from 35,000 feet in the air to tell people what was going on. Nevermind the fact that cell phones wouldn't work very well above 4,000 feet, and wouldn't work at ALL above 8,000 feet. But the conspiracy theorists won't let that fact get in the way of a good fantasy. That is one of the little things you "aren't supposed to think about". Nevermind that one of the callers called his mom and said his first and last name, more like he was reading from a list than calling his own mom. Anyway, when these airliners each deviated from their flight plan and didn't respond to ground control, NORAD would any other time have followed standard operating procedure (and did NOT have to be told by F.A.A. that there were hijackings because they were watching the same events unfold on their own radar) which means fighter jets would be scrambled from the nearest base where they were available on standby within a few minutes, just like every other time when airliners stray off course. But of course on 9/11 this didn't happen, not even close. Somehow these "hijackers" must have used magical powers to cause NORAD to stand down, as ridiculous as this sounds because total inaction from the most high-tech and professional Air Force in the world would be necessary to carry out their tasks. So on the most important day in its history the Air Force was totally worthless. Then they had to make one of the airliners look like a smaller plane, because unknown to them the Naudet brothers had a videocamera to capture the only known footage of the North Tower crash, and this footage shows something that is not at all like a jumbo jet, but didn't have to bother with the South Tower jet disguising itself because that was the one we were "supposed to see". Anyway, as for the Pentagon they had to have Hani Hanjour fly his airliner like it was a fighter plane, making a high G-force corkscrew turn that no real airliner can do, in making its descent to strike the Pentagon. But these "hijackers" wanted to make sure Rumsfeld survived so they went out of their way to hit the farthest point in the building from where Rumsfeld and the top brass are located. And this worked out rather well for the military personnel in the Pentagon, since the side that was hit was the part that was under renovation at the time with few military personnel present compared to construction workers. Still more fortuitous for the Pentagon, the side that was hit had just before 9/11 been structurally reinforced to prevent a large fire there from spreading elsewhere in the building. Awful nice of them to pick that part to hit, huh? Then the airliner vaporized itself into nothing but tiny unidentifiable pieces no bigger than a fist, unlike the crash of a real airliner when you will be able to see at least some identifiable parts, like crumpled wings, broken tail section etc. Why, Hani Hanjour the terrible pilot flew that airliner so good that even though he hit the Pentagon on the ground floor the engines didn't even drag the ground!! Imagine that!! Though the airliner vaporized itself on impact it only made a tiny 16 foot hole in the building. Amazing. Meanwhile, though the planes hitting the Twin Towers caused fires small enough for the firefighters to be heard on their radios saying "We just need 2 hoses and we can knock this fire down" attesting to the small size of it, somehow they must have used magical powers from beyond the grave to make this morph into a raging inferno capable of making the steel on all forty-seven main support columns (not to mention the over 100 smaller support columns) soften and buckle, then all fail at once. Hmmm. Then still more magic was used to make the building totally defy physics as well as common sense in having the uppermost floors pass through the remainder of the building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly, as falling through air, a feat that without magic could only be done with explosives. Then exactly 30 minutes later the North Tower collapses in precisely the same freefall physics-defying manner. Incredible. Not to mention the fact that both collapsed at a uniform rate too, not slowing down, which also defies physics because as the uppermost floors crash into and through each successive floor beneath them they would shed more and more energy each time, thus slowing itself down. Common sense tells you this is not possible without either the hijackers' magical powers or explosives. To emphasize their telekinetic prowess, later in the day they made a third building, WTC # 7, collapse also at freefall rate though no plane or any major debris hit it. Amazing guys these magical hijackers. But we know it had to be "Muslim hijackers" the conspiracy theorist will tell you because (now don't laugh) one of their passports was "found" a couple days later near Ground Zero, miraculously "surviving" the fire that we were told incinerated planes, passengers and black boxes, and also "survived" the collapse of the building it was in. When common sense tells you if that were true then they should start making buildings and airliners out of heavy paper and plastic so as to be "indestructable" like that magic passport. The hijackers even used their magical powers to bring at least seven of their number back to life, to appear at american embassies outraged at being blamed for 9/11!! BBC reported on that and it is still online. Nevertheless, they also used magical powers to make the american government look like it was covering something up in the aftermath of this, what with the hasty removal of the steel debris and having it driven to ports in trucks with GPS locators on them, to be shipped overseas to China and India to be melted down. When common sense again tells you that this is paradoxical in that if the steel was so unimportant that they didn't bother saving some for analysis but so important as to require GPS locators on the trucks with one driver losing his job because he stopped to get lunch. Hmmmm. Yes, this whole story smacks of the utmost idiocy and fantastical far-fetched lying, but it is amazingly enough what some people believe. Even now, five years later, the provably false fairy tale of the "nineteen hijackers" is heard repeated again and again, and is accepted without question by so many Americans. Which is itself a testament to the innate psychological cowardice of the American sheeple, i mean people, and their abject willingness to believe something, ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous in order to avoid facing a scary uncomfortable truth. Time to wake up America.

Posted by: Enlightenment at November 01, 2006 11:23 PM

15 Another sick shit.

Posted by: Greyrooster at November 04, 2006 09:06 PM

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