George Allen Campaign Details Opponent's 'Disturbing' Writings

Senator George Allen (R-VA) has issued a press release detailing that fiction written by his Democratic opponent James Webb contains graphic misogynistic and incestuous pedophiliac passages.

From the Drudge Report:

Lost Soldiers: A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boys penis in his mouth.

Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina."

Via Jay at Stop the ACLU, who points out that Right Wing News had the story first, posting similar passages on September 29th.

Posted by: Bluto at 09:52 PM


1 Emergency !
Emergency !
Somebody call the sex police at Interested Participant !
Pechar needs another woody !

Posted by: Mike Hunt at October 26, 2006 11:07 PM

2 Everybody knows Democrats don't frown upon deviancy unless they can use it to score political points against a Republican.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 26, 2006 11:17 PM

3 I'm voting Republican, and because the left is deranged I am very reluctant to criticize the Republicans (hate to give any ammo to the "enemy") but I think George Allen's press release "outing" sucks.

Personally, I'm a very conservative and
traditional but I think trying to smear a person because they write action novels with racy sex scenes is ridiculous and I don't think a publisher in this day and age would buy an action novel from a writer without some sort of racy sex scene. Sex and violence sells and he wasn't writing philosophy.

Is the Allen campaign
now the thought police? His fiction is nothing to be proud of, but smearing him for some sort of impropriety is like criticizing someone's daydream. What happened to freedom ?

What a bunch of crap.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 26, 2006 11:56 PM

4 Ummmm....I am a very open Libertarian who enjoys an occasional adult
type story but this is more then fair game in this viscous political
campaign. If Allen can be dammed for the left's conceptualization of
the extemporaneous "Macca" comment than Webb's "boy and the penis"
authorship can be held to the same standard as a political cudgel.

Posted by: Randman at October 27, 2006 01:09 AM

5 I guess a scene where the dad takes his boys' penis in his mouth could be called "racy". And I'm so sure you're a "conservative."

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 27, 2006 01:10 AM

6 Throw them all out! We need a thorough house-cleaning it appears.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 27, 2006 01:32 AM

7 Both parties need an enema.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:46 AM

8 Good night guys. I'm shit faced again and can't see the friggin keyboard. Hell, I can't find the keyboard. Where'd I put that friggin bottle?

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:48 AM

9 Damn! My new girls gone wild DVD is scratched.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:51 AM

10 "Looking over his shoulder, he entered the cave with stealth. The moist evening air was thick with anticipation. He noticed him lying there. The bright Afghanistan moonlight glistening upon his bare bronzed buttocks. Jumbo quietly whispered, "as Allah has said (PBUH) if the meat is left uncovered...shall not the cat eat it?" He moaned passionately. Finally, he could take it no longer and blurted out "Osama, you wild donkey of a man, come away with me and there will be unimaginable delights as we frolic together and hack off heads" Jumbo gently lifted Osama upside down and put his penis into his mouth...

Posted by: Daniel at October 27, 2006 01:58 AM

11 Reading that passage left me with a sick feeling in my stomach. Is Webb a member of NAMBLA? BTW, Daniel, very funny! Rooster, have a nice hangover!!

Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at October 27, 2006 04:49 AM

12 Dreamer, apparently the lefturds' efforts to enstupidate us have worked
to some extent on you. Freedom, sez you? Fine, sez I, but this man is
running for an extremely important political office, and as such has
put himself in a position in which he has little expectation of freedom
to do as he pleases without close inspection. Put yourself on the
public stage, and you're gonna get looked at; if We the People don't like what we see, then thanks for playing.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 27, 2006 06:34 AM

13 Up and going five hours later. Stamina is what I have. Actually, my daughter called to say my grandson is sick or else I'd still be in bed.

Heroic Dreamer: Only a very sick mind would think of what he wrote. Racy sex scene. More like depraved sicko scene. This guy is probably jealous of Mark Foley and worse. I mean, would a normal mind even thing of something like that? I disagree that such revolting garbage needs to be in a book to sell it.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 07:45 AM

14 James Webb is a twit.

Posted by: n.a. palm at October 27, 2006 08:52 AM

15 The first one's creepy because it's uses a child.

The second one is, well, kinda hot.

I wouldn't voted for him anyway.

Posted by: Spade at October 27, 2006 09:32 AM

16 I think the book is a non-issue and it was stupid for the Republicans
to bring it up. It's fiction. A "story". However,
he's made remarks otherwise that leave me disturbed enough. But
alas, I'm not in his state so voting for or against him isn't an issue.

Posted by: Oyster at October 27, 2006 02:32 PM

17 Jesusland Carlos: And I'm so sure you're a "conservative."

What's that supposed to mean? You own "conservative" now? Self righteousness is not a good path to go down. I say this not for my sake, but kindly, for yours.

IM: you have a point. he put himself in the public spot light. But I think smearing someone because of their fiction - FICTION - sucks. What's next? while he was sleeping he had a dirty dream?
That's why it bothers me.

This entire campaign is disgusting.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 27, 2006 02:57 PM

18 Conservatives are taking too soft a line on this --these writings are disturbing and it's equlaly disturbing that the author, who thinks he can be a part of our national government, can't even manage to keep it under wraps. You know deviant fantasy isn't any big deal, so long as the holder doesn't let'em out or at least keeps 'em in a consenting adults only back room. If this guy can't write under a nomme de plume and actually keep his kinky personal shit outa public matters, he definitely can't be trusted with the security of this country. I actually think his writing seems really bad, too--another reason to deny him any political position above janitor--he would be a really good, creepy, bogey-man-type janitor, though.

Posted by: Ay Uaxe at October 27, 2006 02:57 PM

19 Well, maybe I haven't thought this out carefully. Maybe I'm wrong, and he should be taken to task on his fiction.

It just seems to me that over the years campaigns went from discussing the issue, to discussing the candidate's personal life, and now, we discuss a candidate's fantasy life. It goes too far. Surely there is a better way to show the character and make of a man then by criticizing his creative writing.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 27, 2006 03:11 PM

20 If he wins he will most likely flaunt his homo fantasies. That's what they like to do. Pushing envelopes is the game.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 27, 2006 03:32 PM

21 It's almost like the Dem's go out of their way to find sicko's to make their leaders! What the h%ll is up with that?

Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 27, 2006 03:55 PM

22 James Webb: "Karl Rove made me do it!"" No, no, wait, Karl Rove DID it."

Posted by: n.a. palm at October 27, 2006 04:39 PM

23 Hey, let's talk about Lynn Cheney's hot-lovin' lesbian characters in her book while we're at it! And Lewis Libby's racy novels. Better yet, let's burn them thar books, eh? Yeah, that's it. Books are thoughts and thinking's bad! BURN!

Posted by: Gleep! at October 27, 2006 11:06 PM

24 Guys, don't be stupid. If Allen wrote a book like the Turner Diaries,
you'd all be pissing all over yourselves and denounching him as a
racist, but books by a lefturd about sexual deviancy, including
pederastic incest, are just fine. What the hell is wrong with you
people? If you all are conservatives, then I'm sure as hell not a
conservative. I expect to hear dumb shit like that from gregturd, but
not the rest of you.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 27, 2006 11:56 PM

25 "lesbian characters"

For the record, the only person on this thread equating homosexuality to pedophilia is the Liberal. It's the same kind of gay bashing for political ends we saw during the Foley scandal.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 28, 2006 08:25 AM

26 Good point Jesusland Carlos.

Posted by: Dill Doe at October 28, 2006 09:06 AM

27 IM said it all.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 28, 2006 09:19 AM

28 For the record, the only person on this thread equating homosexuality
to pedophilia is the Liberal. It's the same kind of gay bashing for
political ends we saw during the Foley scandal.

Nah, JC, we're talking about using people's imaginations and artistic license against them in cheap political ploys.

According to Webb, he saw this kind of behavior take place in Southeast
Asia during the war. He then included something along the lines of it in a passage from him book. So exactly what is
this supposed to tell us about Webb, according to Mr. Allen that is?
That Webb is himself a pedophile? That he thinks pedophelia is really
cool and OK? What?

No, what we have now is called the "Questionable Content Move" and is being used against a man who's been proving his intellect and his worth for 35 years by a political hoodlum.

I'm calling it would it has always been called: hypocricy from the sanctimonius.

I also called this Foley thing the bunch of crap it is from day one, although he didn't write about what he did, he actually carried it out. Still a non-issue to me.

Like I said to you once before, JC; please don't insincerely defend homosexuals as part of your arguing tacts; you don't reallly have it in you (no pun inteneded.)

Posted by: Gleep! at October 28, 2006 10:32 AM

29 IM, Greyrooster, Jesusland Carlos: Noone said books about sexual deviancy and pedophilia is "just fine." But I don't think its "conservative" to go after the content of a thriller as a means to win an election. It is more than just desperate. It is a huge mistake and a trap.

Leftist advocates in an obsessive pursuit of "gay rights," abortion, and hedonism have focused the national dialogue for too long on morality issues. Christian conservatives have responded in kind by focusing on morality issues and advocating their position. Despite Republican majorities in both houses, the traditional conservative mandate to shrink government is largely ignored. The country's overwhelming desire to see increased border security is ignored. Instead, we obsess on embryonic stem cells, gay marriage and now, bad fiction.

Why do conservatives let the lunatics frame the discussion??

A campaign frames and refines the national discussion and in many ways the future direction of our government. A worthy opponent and a worthy debate/fight for office provides a foundation for leadership and consensus with regards to direction and tone for the future office.

So the Republicans in the Allen/Webb race have chosen to frame the debate around violent/sadistic fiction. To win. And then what? They wake up and become prudent and thoughtful? They wake up victors after the battle and provide a check on man's anarchic impulses and the innovator/revolutionary's lust for power?

We need real leaders. We need a Patton, a Churchill - someone strong and able - will such a person put up with their private papers being rifled through?

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 28, 2006 10:36 AM

30 One of the key differences between conservative and liberal (set out in Russell Kirk's The Conservative Mind) :

Liberals believe in the "perfectibility" of man - which leads to the belief that communism can work if only the right people are in charge.

Conservatives recognize that both good and evil exists in the hearts of men and that government and individual rights need to provide a check on evil, anarchistic or power grubbing instincts.

It is a trap for the conservatives to go after the fiction of someone because it inherently implies that there exists a man who does not have a heart of darkness, that perfectibility on earth is possible. As every conservative, and Christian, should know this is not true.

Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 28, 2006 10:47 AM

31 In my spare time I write essays on guerilla warfare that deal with
ethnic cleansing as a strategy of war. Would that be a valid issue of
debate should I ever run for election, or should my hobby not reflect
on my campaign? Discuss.

Oh, and remember that your positions are all recorded, so beware the double-edged sword of hypocrisy.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 28, 2006 05:59 PM

32 Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 28, 2006 07:39 PM

33 Sounds like your average Democrat junket or fund raiser to me.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at October 29, 2006 05:43 PM

34 Hitler ponders a run for the presidency ... stay tuned, this should be good.....

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 31, 2006 08:31 AM

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