George Allen Campaign Details Opponent's 'Disturbing' Writings
Senator George Allen (R-VA) has issued a press release detailing that fiction written by his Democratic opponent James Webb contains graphic misogynistic and incestuous pedophiliac passages.From the Drudge Report:
– Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.” – Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina."Via Jay at Stop the ACLU, who points out that Right Wing News had the story first, posting similar passages on September 29th.
Somebody call the sex police at Interested Participant !
Pechar needs another woody !
Posted by: Mike Hunt at October 26, 2006 11:07 PM
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 26, 2006 11:17 PM
Personally, I'm a very conservative and
traditional but I think trying to smear a person because they write action novels with racy sex scenes is ridiculous and I don't think a publisher in this day and age would buy an action novel from a writer without some sort of racy sex scene. Sex and violence sells and he wasn't writing philosophy.
Is the Allen campaign
now the thought police? His fiction is nothing to be proud of, but smearing him for some sort of impropriety is like criticizing someone's daydream. What happened to freedom ?
What a bunch of crap.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 26, 2006 11:56 PM
type story but this is more then fair game in this viscous political
campaign. If Allen can be dammed for the left's conceptualization of
the extemporaneous "Macca" comment than Webb's "boy and the penis"
authorship can be held to the same standard as a political cudgel.
Posted by: Randman at October 27, 2006 01:09 AM
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 27, 2006 01:10 AM
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 27, 2006 01:32 AM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:46 AM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:48 AM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:51 AM
Posted by: Daniel at October 27, 2006 01:58 AM
Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at October 27, 2006 04:49 AM
to some extent on you. Freedom, sez you? Fine, sez I, but this man is
running for an extremely important political office, and as such has
put himself in a position in which he has little expectation of freedom
to do as he pleases without close inspection. Put yourself on the
public stage, and you're gonna get looked at; if We the People don't like what we see, then thanks for playing.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 27, 2006 06:34 AM
Heroic Dreamer: Only a very sick mind would think of what he wrote. Racy sex scene. More like depraved sicko scene. This guy is probably jealous of Mark Foley and worse. I mean, would a normal mind even thing of something like that? I disagree that such revolting garbage needs to be in a book to sell it.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 07:45 AM
Posted by: n.a. palm at October 27, 2006 08:52 AM
The second one is, well, kinda hot.
I wouldn't voted for him anyway.
Posted by: Spade at October 27, 2006 09:32 AM
to bring it up. It's fiction. A "story". However,
he's made remarks otherwise that leave me disturbed enough. But
alas, I'm not in his state so voting for or against him isn't an issue.
Posted by: Oyster at October 27, 2006 02:32 PM
What's that supposed to mean? You own "conservative" now? Self righteousness is not a good path to go down. I say this not for my sake, but kindly, for yours.
IM: you have a point. he put himself in the public spot light. But I think smearing someone because of their fiction - FICTION - sucks. What's next? while he was sleeping he had a dirty dream?
That's why it bothers me.
This entire campaign is disgusting.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 27, 2006 02:57 PM
Posted by: Ay Uaxe at October 27, 2006 02:57 PM
It just seems to me that over the years campaigns went from discussing the issue, to discussing the candidate's personal life, and now, we discuss a candidate's fantasy life. It goes too far. Surely there is a better way to show the character and make of a man then by criticizing his creative writing.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 27, 2006 03:11 PM
Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 27, 2006 03:32 PM
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at October 27, 2006 03:55 PM
Posted by: n.a. palm at October 27, 2006 04:39 PM
Posted by: Gleep! at October 27, 2006 11:06 PM
you'd all be pissing all over yourselves and denounching him as a
racist, but books by a lefturd about sexual deviancy, including
pederastic incest, are just fine. What the hell is wrong with you
people? If you all are conservatives, then I'm sure as hell not a
conservative. I expect to hear dumb shit like that from gregturd, but
not the rest of you.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 27, 2006 11:56 PM
For the record, the only person on this thread equating homosexuality to pedophilia is the Liberal. It's the same kind of gay bashing for political ends we saw during the Foley scandal.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 28, 2006 08:25 AM
Posted by: Dill Doe at October 28, 2006 09:06 AM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 28, 2006 09:19 AM
to pedophilia is the Liberal. It's the same kind of gay bashing for
political ends we saw during the Foley scandal.
Nah, JC, we're talking about using people's imaginations and artistic license against them in cheap political ploys.
According to Webb, he saw this kind of behavior take place in Southeast
Asia during the war. He then included something along the lines of it in a passage from him book. So exactly what is
this supposed to tell us about Webb, according to Mr. Allen that is?
That Webb is himself a pedophile? That he thinks pedophelia is really
cool and OK? What?
No, what we have now is called the "Questionable Content Move" and is being used against a man who's been proving his intellect and his worth for 35 years by a political hoodlum.
I'm calling it would it has always been called: hypocricy from the sanctimonius.
I also called this Foley thing the bunch of crap it is from day one, although he didn't write about what he did, he actually carried it out. Still a non-issue to me.
Like I said to you once before, JC; please don't insincerely defend homosexuals as part of your arguing tacts; you don't reallly have it in you (no pun inteneded.)
Posted by: Gleep! at October 28, 2006 10:32 AM
Leftist advocates in an obsessive pursuit of "gay rights," abortion, and hedonism have focused the national dialogue for too long on morality issues. Christian conservatives have responded in kind by focusing on morality issues and advocating their position. Despite Republican majorities in both houses, the traditional conservative mandate to shrink government is largely ignored. The country's overwhelming desire to see increased border security is ignored. Instead, we obsess on embryonic stem cells, gay marriage and now, bad fiction.
Why do conservatives let the lunatics frame the discussion??
A campaign frames and refines the national discussion and in many ways the future direction of our government. A worthy opponent and a worthy debate/fight for office provides a foundation for leadership and consensus with regards to direction and tone for the future office.
So the Republicans in the Allen/Webb race have chosen to frame the debate around violent/sadistic fiction. To win. And then what? They wake up and become prudent and thoughtful? They wake up victors after the battle and provide a check on man's anarchic impulses and the innovator/revolutionary's lust for power?
We need real leaders. We need a Patton, a Churchill - someone strong and able - will such a person put up with their private papers being rifled through?
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 28, 2006 10:36 AM
Liberals believe in the "perfectibility" of man - which leads to the belief that communism can work if only the right people are in charge.
Conservatives recognize that both good and evil exists in the hearts of men and that government and individual rights need to provide a check on evil, anarchistic or power grubbing instincts.
It is a trap for the conservatives to go after the fiction of someone because it inherently implies that there exists a man who does not have a heart of darkness, that perfectibility on earth is possible. As every conservative, and Christian, should know this is not true.
Posted by: Heroic Dreamer at October 28, 2006 10:47 AM
ethnic cleansing as a strategy of war. Would that be a valid issue of
debate should I ever run for election, or should my hobby not reflect
on my campaign? Discuss.
Oh, and remember that your positions are all recorded, so beware the double-edged sword of hypocrisy.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 28, 2006 05:59 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 28, 2006 07:39 PM
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