Ignorant Race-Baiting From the Guardian
The Drudge Report, which should know better, links to this pathetically uninformed Guardian story designed to foment racial resentment, and, incidentally, attack a rarity in Hollywood these days - an unabashedly patriotic movie.Flags of Our Fathers opened yesterday, and the Guardian immediately launched their assault[emphasis added]:
in Flags of Our Fathers, Clint Eastwood's big-budget, Oscar-tipped film of the battle for the Japanese island that opened on Friday in the US. While the film's battle scenes show scores of young soldiers in combat, none of them are African-American. Yet almost 900 African-American troops took part in the battle of Iwo Jima, including Sgt McPhatter.The Guardian is not a newspaper that likes to let a little fact-checking get in the way of a good rant. If they were, they might have found out that the United States sent 110,000 Marines to invade Iwo Jima. That means that the 900 African Americans who participated represented eight tenths of one percent of the invasion force. So, if the movie, as the Guardian says, portrayed "scores of young soldiers" (and by the way, they weren't "soldiers", they were Marines, you insipid socialist limey jackasses), and we generously allow "scores" to mean "100," that means that a proportional representation of African Americans would require that eight tenths of a Marine be portrayed as black. Given the ferocity of the battle for Iwo Jima, perhaps that would be appropriate. What's not appropriate is for a foreign leftist scandal rag, whose editors are so blindingly stupid that they don't even know the difference between a soldier and a Marine, should seek to foment racial tension. Update: Just for "Joe Public", the commenter from The Netherlands who doesn't see why I refer to the folks at the Guardian as "blindingly stupid," this should explain it.
Update by Vinnie Not race baiting, but blindingly stupid nonetheless. Who knew she could join forces, albeit unwittingly, with the leftist Guardian?Um...me. And Bluto. Rusty, Howie come to mind too. Sorry to intrude on your post, Bluto, but the he-bitch hasn't been slapped in a awhile. Damn, it feels good to be a gangstah!
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 07:45 PM
As typical European, you don't understand the significanceof thedifference between Marines and soldiers, just like the Guardian staff. but you're right about one thing: I shouldn't have insulted scandal rags by comparing them to the Guardian. At least scandal rags don't hire Islamist extremists. You can google "Dilpazier Aslam" if you're curious.
Other than that, did you have a point...besides ankle-biting for free?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 21, 2006 08:30 PM
Just because someone is paid doing something, does not legitimize their trade, nor their methods. I am sure you're aware that drug dealers, hookers and burglars all make money, doing their 'job' too.
According to your standard though they must be much more noble than a volunteer worker, because they're making cash.
Logic must escape you a lot.
Posted by: davec at October 21, 2006 08:38 PM
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 21, 2006 08:43 PM
Good point, Burglary is probably legal if you can show your Welfare check does not allow you to live your lifestyle ;)
Posted by: davec at October 21, 2006 08:49 PM
Kiss my rosy red Marine Ass.
There is a hell of a lot difference between Marines and soldiers.
Ask the Marines on Tarawa.
Posted by: 1sttofight at October 21, 2006 08:49 PM
I'm unsure where your Paris Hilton analogy fits into the discussion. Were you an amateur vapid blonde whore, you'd have a point - she'd be better at it that you. You're not, though - you're an amateur journo - and they're still better at it than you. This is a not partisan observation; their politics aside, you've not earned the right to call them stupid.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 08:53 PM
Posted by: Anti-Racists at Jawa at October 21, 2006 09:01 PM
So by your logic if you criticize something, you're jealous of it?
Why are you jealous of the Jawa Report?
Posted by: davec at October 21, 2006 09:02 PM
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 09:09 PM
I don't thinkthis postwas lame. You should keep your swishy European ideas to yourself.
Europeans are bent onsocietal suicide, so why should be give a damn about yourEuropean opinions?
Why don't you Euroqueers go back to rolling over on your soft bellies while the Islamists drill you from behind.
Theo Van Gogh was the only European male who had a pair, but the Muslims killed him leaving only sexual deviants and passive perverts to share Amsterdam with the ever-growing Muslim hoard.
Demographically, you Euroqueers are fucked.
Posted by: Sharia is coming to Eurabia at October 21, 2006 09:25 PM
The Guardian's "journalists" are nothing like "rigorous", in fact, by the strictest definition of journalism, they're propagandists, pamphleteers.
I would also submit that it's blindingly stupid to support those who are dedicated to tearing your home country's society apart and replacing it with sharia law, and that it's blindingly stupid to hire reporters without even a cursory background check, only to have them exposed as anti-Semites later.It's also blindingly stupid tofail to recognize satire, even when it's labeled with a disclaimer (I have an icon on my home blogpointing to the story of how the blindingly stupid editors of the Guardian did exactly that to one of my posts, naming my blog "most extreme").
And also, Joe, you dodged davec's point. Since you criticized my post, by your logic, that means you're jealous of me. Why?
Joe, you're not very good at making a case. Is it the pot?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 21, 2006 09:26 PM
"Most Americans barely have the brains to walk on their back legs" - he turned to the desperate scenes being played out in New Orleans: "On the streets you've got some poor, starving soul helping themselves to a packet of food from a ruined, deserted supermarket. And as a result, finding themselves being blown to pieces by a helicopter gunship. With the none-too-bright soldiers urged on by their illiterate political masters, the poor and needy never stood a chance. It's easier and much more fun to shoot someone than make them a cup of tea.
"Especially if they'reblack."
If some Euro paper doesn't want to get called out about race baiting, perhaps they shouldn't paint Americans as slackjawed yokels one cup of coffee away from stringing up the black folk, while reading their Bible and speaking in tongues.
Posted by: davec at October 21, 2006 09:30 PM
Posted by: Sharia is coming to Eurabia at October 21, 2006 09:34 PM
I don't even particularly care if any of the on-screen actors are black. So far as I can see, a soldier (or Marine, if you prefer) is what he is regardless of skin-tone. The people who were there know who they are, and they should be proud of it - doesn't really matter much who portrays them on the silver screen.
The only reason I bothered to comment at all was your labelling of the Guardian's journos as 'blindingly stupid'. Once again - I do not agree with their political agenda - but they're good journalists. You'll struggle to find any newspaper that doesn't add some element of spin, propaganda - the Guardian folkmight (at times) be pathetically-eager to appease those who would destroy our way of life, but they ain't stupid.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 09:40 PM
1400 Amsterdam Muslims are Extremists
Son of Theo Van Gogh beaten by Muslims
Muslims overtaking native Dutch in Amsterdam
Posted by: Sharia is coming to Eurabia at October 21, 2006 09:41 PM
Much as you'd like to play the martyr, most Brits (can't speak for the rest of the Euros) do not dislike America, or Americans. I'm not sure if you'd noticed, but we've actually beensupporting you all the way.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 09:48 PM
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 09:52 PM
In response, you've supplied nothing but your opinion. Are you familiar with the old American simile about opinions?
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 21, 2006 09:54 PM
You've thus far failed to convince me that they're stupid. Had you picked 'misinformed', or 'naive' as your insult du jour, I'd have happily agreed.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 21, 2006 10:03 PM
Again, I invite you to address the central point of my post. It's not necessary to have seen the movie to understand it.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 21, 2006 10:17 PM
What 900 blacks. The Marine corps was not integrated until the Korean war. We haven't won a war since.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 21, 2006 10:46 PM
Greyrooster is ignoring, however, Grenada, Panama, and the first Gulf War in trying to make a racist point.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 21, 2006 11:03 PM
Well perhaps you would have a valid point, except:
I am a British person, living in the United States, who has both lived and travelled inside Europe and already know the opinion of Americans from the average joe in Europe.
That aside, the Quote came from a reporter who published it in "The Sun" Newspaper, no? and makes a direct reference to that quote being in the "The Sun" newspaper:
'Flood That Released America's Demons", said the Sun on Saturday. Underneath the arresting headline was a column by Jeremy Clarkson followed by the above quote.
So don't give me it was just a quote- -- it was quoted from an article published in a national newspaper.
Posted by: davec at October 21, 2006 11:08 PM
WTF? Who thought of this stupid shit? I was in the Army, you stupid
lefturd dumbass. Jesus H., lefturds are stupid. I hope Osama gets that
nuke into DC double quick so that we can be free from the Feds in order
to do what we need to do.
And Joe Pubic, if you'll stop being an idiot for a just a tic, you'll
see that black really isn't white, but I guess you're incapable of
that, and so I hope you like the smell of unwashed muslim man-musk,
because you're going to have to get used to it whether you do or not
when they're banging you like the little bitch you seem to be. But
then, I guess lefturds like that sort of thing, eh?
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 22, 2006 05:35 AM
1) all True Patriots wear white sheets and carry burning crosses.
2) If you don't, you're a lefty islamophile, a traitor, and probably gay.
Fortunately, a verbal attack from you is like being flogged with a damp noodle.You just don't gots the intellectual firepower.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 06:48 AM
As a former Fifth Marine let me give you a little history of how the Army thinks about soldiers and Marines. Black Jack Pershing faced a turning point in the “Great War” in early June 1917. The Huns were about to break through at Belleau Wood. They had 5 divisions charging into France (237,197,87,28,10).. Black Jack needed at least 4 Army divisions (12 regiments) to halt the advance. He did not have them. He did have 2 Marine regiments the Fifth (best warriors to walk the earth in the 20thcentury) and the Sixth. When we engaged the Krauts we were out numbered 9:1. Three days later we were still out numbered but only 4:1. The Huns knew it was over and retreated. “They ran so fast even the hounds couldn’t catch em.” The Krauts did give us a terrible nickname that was the basis of the tattoos many of my buddies got – Dogs from Hell – “Teufel Hounden”.
Even a 4 star Army General “Black Jack” Pershing knew that one Marine was as good as or better than 12 soldiers. It was true 100 years ago and it is true today!
Fifth Marines Nam 1967+1968
PS I support another Fifth Marine Nam vet Jimmy Webb
Posted by: Rod Stanton at October 22, 2006 07:02 AM
dilligently dug a hole deeper with each reotrt. That adjective
being not only "stupid", but "blindingly stupid". I think it fits.
From the American Heritage Dictionary:
Slow to learn or understand; obtuse. Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes. Marked by a lack of intelligence or care; foolish or careless: a stupid mistake. Dazed, stunned, or stupefied. Pointless; worthless: a stupid job
1, 2 and 5 about sums it up. (3 is questionable as well) One must
also consider what their definition of a good journalist is. One
that just uses two-dollar words to describe a stupid idea giving it a
patina of legitimacy? (There's that stupid
word again) Or one that does their research and gets the facts straight
adhering to the oft repeated mantra that they're "unbiased and
It was a stupid article by an obtuse journalist who made the poor decision to research his subject carelessly. In other words, it was pointless; worthless.
Posted by: Oyster at October 22, 2006 07:02 AM
Posted by: Oyster at October 22, 2006 07:03 AM
Posted by: Oyster at October 22, 2006 07:04 AM
As I mentioned above, I can't speak for the majority of Europe, but I've not noticed any significant rise in yank-bashing from the Brits. That which there is tends to come from the loonie left, but they'll have a pop at anything that isn't in a burkha.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 07:07 AM
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 22, 2006 08:09 AM
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 22, 2006 08:14 AM
Get a brain Bluto. Yea. We whipped Grenada alright. A real war. The girl scouts could whip Panama and if we whipped Iraq how come we are still losing troops there everyday? The truth is we knocked the shit out of them from the air and then quit before the job was done. Who was flying those fighter aircraft? The boys from the ghetto?I know who was doing the flying and I know who invented, designed and manufactured the weapons and technology. You are the product of academic bullshit that has predominated our culture for 50 yrs. See the mess its gotten us into? Take a look at our cities. Ostrich symdrome.
Black marines charging the beaches at Iwo Jimo. Tell the truth. What job did they really have. In ten years the four flags raisers on Iwo Jima will be pictured as black. Well, they might leave the Indian.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 08:14 AM
blacks were put to cleaning latrines back in the day. When they fought, blacks and asian and hispanics fought as bravely as anybody. Some of the most decorated soldiers in WW2 were blacks and asians. That isn't PC bullcrap (which you know I too despise), it's fact.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 22, 2006 08:21 AM
PS. Did you see the people rioting in the bowling alley on the news this morning? Attacking people with bowling balls and que sticks. Ruining someones business. Why color where they? What color were the football players in last weeks brawl? Kicking and stomping on the heads of other players. Who robbed and killed the tourists in New Orlaens last night? Goes on and on and those like Bluto contribute to the problem. Maybe it will go away all by itself. Bullshit!
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 08:42 AM
I agree. If blacks, etc., were not part of Iwo Jima, then they shouldn't be painted in retroactively just to meet the race quota. Facts and truth should always prevail over PC bullshit.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 22, 2006 08:44 AM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 08:48 AM
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 22, 2006 08:53 AM
Back to your original point - I'm not sure that this lack of knowledge in one particular areas makes me 'blindingly stupid'; I didn't know something, I looked into it, and now I know. As a matter of respect, I will never again refer to a Marine as a soldier. In the same vein, I'm not sure it makes the Guardian bloke 'blindingly stupid', either, as he may well simply suffer from the same dearth of information. However, I'll see your 'uninformed', and raise you an 'incompetent'; as a professional journalist, it's his job to take the time and research these things before putting pen to paper.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 09:03 AM
What part is bullshit.? Show me.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 09:12 AM
For this line alone you deserve a standing ovation, Bluto!
Posted by: John at October 22, 2006 09:14 AM
black fighting units were segregated and few in number, so I doubt any of your army buddies ever saw a black soldier on the field unless it was in the mess or cleaning the latrine. So their claims sound like bull.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at October 22, 2006 09:23 AM
Posted by: YBP at October 22, 2006 10:07 AM
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 22, 2006 10:15 AM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 10:26 AM
Posted by: Dill Doe at October 22, 2006 10:42 AM
There were 6 flag raisers. Ira Hayes was Pima Indian
Mike Strank was a Czech immigrant. Neither man had to join the services because constitutionally they were not citizens of the US. Neither could vote either.
Franklin Sousley, John Bradley, Harlon Block and Rene Gagnon were the other four.
Most blacks were excluded from combat. They held support billets like supply, mess, armorer. In the early days of Iwo, there was not much room on the beach for anone who was not in the fight.
My point here is regardless of what color of skin, everyone fought to win in WW2. Foreign jackasses who assume the privilege to comment on American history should be very careful not to make sloppy errors and uninformed opinionated mistakes. Joe Public I recommend you do go see the movie. But I suggest you read the book first. James Bradley is the author of Flags of our Fathers. His father is John Bradley, one of the flag raisers. This book is a historical reference of the battle. John Bradley was a Navy Corpsman.
One more fact Joe, 3 of the men involved in the flag raising never left the island alive. That is 50% mortality rate. Two of every three who landed was injured to a degree he could not fight. One in three died. There were 22,000 Japanese all dedicated to Japan to their deaths. They were fanatical in their commitment to victory or death. That is exactly the type of enemy we face in radical islam. 27,000 men lost their lives or were injured in the fight for Iwo. Never before or since has this lopsided result happened. Before you can defeat your enemy, you must know him. It is obvious Euros don't know who the enemy is. Nor do they appreciate the enemies dedication and willingness to die for allah.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 22, 2006 10:52 AM
Fora self-hating homosexual like yourself, is your racism a defense mechanism for displacing your self-hatred onto others?
Posted by: Dill Doe at October 22, 2006 10:55 AM
Is Joe P possibly a writer for the Gaurdian? In one of the comments he referred to "we here" which made me think immediately Joe C was associated with the gaurdian.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 22, 2006 11:22 AM
What is the IP Joe Public is posting from?
Posted by: Dill Doe at October 22, 2006 11:43 AM
A la Reuters...
Posted by: Dill Doe at October 22, 2006 12:19 PM
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 22, 2006 01:54 PM
SeeMonk: I don't need a lecture on the flag raisers. I have a feeling I have known who they were far longer than you. I have also lived long enough to see attempts to rewrite history. What has Mr. Starnk or Ira Hayes have to do with blacks on the beach? Always the same discuss the black situation and people bring up Indians, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, etc; They have nothing to with blacks. Always thought is was a liberal thing.
JC: Yea the 92nd was so few in number thats why the Germans never seen them after the battle started. You really need to do some research. Look it up under (withdraw and regroup) that's the title black authors call it 60 yrs later. We called it something different then.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 03:28 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 03:36 PM
Posted by: Dill Doe at October 22, 2006 03:38 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 03:42 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 03:45 PM
Like the Grauniad?
Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 22, 2006 04:11 PM
Which is why it's "blindingly stupid" that the idiot got it wrong.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 22, 2006 04:14 PM
While the political support for the War comes from the Prime Minister, etc there still is competition between our armed forces.
Most of my family are serving in the British armed forces, and said they do not like serving along side the American forces what so ever. My Uncle was saying their (being the British) tactics worked so well in Basra because unlike the Americans the British don't drag women and children out of beds and don't mistreat people during home searches.
The British tactics work, because well Basra is not the Sunni triangle.
They also talk about the dangers being more from American friendly fire, than from the enemy (I guess due to the friendly fire incident in the Gulf war)
I guess there will always be friendly rivalry between both nations armed forces, both believe their tactics and training is the best!
Posted by: davec at October 22, 2006 04:53 PM
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at October 22, 2006 05:11 PM
Usually, because most films about the war are trying to focus on a big picture of events, little details like that get neglected.
When Islamists have forced the second great capitulation of Europe, I suppose we will have to come over and try to save whatever is left of your culture from slow suffocating death. I suppose some of you Europeans will shoot at us again. I don't mean just a few of you either.
Why not balance things out while you still have a diverse culture? You can thank the Black Americans who helped liberate Europe with General Patton. You guys could make a much deserved tribute film to those fine Black patriots, many of whom died so you could give your land away to radical Islam 60 years later.
Hey, its OK. I do agree that some people get under represented on important issues. For one example, I would really like to see more Europeans "on screen" in the fight against the global Jihad. I couldn't care less what color you are either.
USA all the way.
Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 22, 2006 05:52 PM
Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 22, 2006 06:00 PM
I'll concede they may not be stupid at the Guardian, but they have picked their side. I believe that actually makes them worse than stupid.
Again, I am sorry if I was rude, but a lot of the time it feels like the Europeans, including the beloved UK, should just be shooting at us. It would be easier to understand, and respond to.
I really think its going to come down to the US and (hopefully) the UK, having to go in and liberate the Europeans again.
All I wanted to do was read lots of books, watch reruns of Star Trek, and play video games.
Now I have family living only a short way from a place where a Jihadist terror training camp was located. In the US! That to me kind of takes the fun out of the weekend I wanted to have.
The Guardian picks petty and incidental sins stumblingly committed by this or that "American", and uses them to deligitimize who and what we really are about. All the time crying for the slightest insult made to people who would stone your daughter to death, for holding her boyfriends hand in public.
You know what I think finally makes the case for the Guardian being "blindingly stupid". They somehow think, they have picked the 'right' side. There is the stupidity. I'm done ...
USA all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 22, 2006 06:26 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 06:31 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 06:42 PM
I see you can get mad too. Thats good. I said the Allies got fired upon. I neglected to mention Monty, and Churchill. I was talking about black people, and they werent black ... Sorry I hurt your feelings. But no ... I am not ill informed. Or a 'redneck', though I reserve the right to be condescending. It flows both ways.
I hope you noticed that that I mentioned in my post just prior, the "beloved UK". I meant that. I never, never discount the losses suffered by the Brits. I also tend to think of them as somehow better, braver, generally superior, and distinct from "Europe"
It freaks me out that you would lower your flag for anyone. I do not mean that as a slam. But what about the flap with the English Flag? the cross of St George?
You think I am trying to slight the UK, but I am desperate to see you rise! You know, get mad at me. Get mad at nything! Just get mad enough to survive. My family history runs many courses out of the British Isles. I am as proud of England, as I am of the USA's willingness to resist her. If that seems a contradiction, hey, its just how it is.
Like I also said, sorry if I sound rude.
That having been said, FUCK YOU TOO, my beloved UK kinsman, and no hard feelings :)
Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 22, 2006 06:44 PM
Rob Crawford - you're late to the party, but I imagine that's probably your whole life story. You take a quote from a comment in which I 'fessed up to being wrong, in order to show that I was wrong... What, exactly, were you attempting to prove?
Rooster - thanks for that. Nice to know that at least some Americans are not yet so far gone in the 'everyone hates us' mentality to realise that we really don't. I've not yet had to fight for my country, or yours - but if the chips were really down, to the point that they needed more than more bodies than the professional armies could provide, I'd step up for either one.
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 06:55 PM
Even if he did, there is no room for mistakes in the Sunni triangle, different places, means different tactics, and the violence in Al-Anbar province is much more intensified, and frequent than it is in Basra -- however that might change whenever Iran gives the go ahead to intensify attacks against the coalition in an attempt to swing the election.
Posted by: davec at October 22, 2006 06:56 PM
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 07:01 PM
I am not rewriting history, but sheding some light on a part of it ...
"Black soldiers were generally restricted from combat, but the realities of war would soon blur the lines of race. One major breakthrough came during the Battle of the Bulge, in late 1944, says Ambrose.
General Dwight D. Eisenhower, faced with Hitler's advancing army on the Western Front, temporarily desegregated the army, calling for urgent assistance on the front lines. More than 2,000 black soldiers volunteered to fight. "
Patton also had black tank crews segregated, but under his chain of command. They fought, and deserve praise!
USA all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 22, 2006 07:06 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 07:07 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 07:11 PM
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 07:12 PM
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 22, 2006 07:42 PM
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 07:47 PM
I am still smiling about recieving an "F" bomb from you. That sort of thing keeps my hope for the future alive. I am not at all mad at you, and look forward to my great grandchildren being f-bombed by yours. I want the England of my Grandfathers, to be the England of my Grandchildren, with all my heart! They can be rude to each other, or not. Yours can come visit Yellowstone Park, and mine can go visit the birthplace of English Common Law. At the end of a century. This century.
On the wall behind me as I type this, I have a miniposter I snatched of the internet and printed maybe a year ago. The Union Jack fills the rectangle, and to the bottom left, holding aloft the English Flag, is Piglet, riding atop Ee-or. From the center, running to the right are the words "Let the Flag (and the pig) Fly Free!". I first heard about the Cross of St George being offensive to Muslims back when I saved this poster, and I was shocked to read that in some places your leaders had taken the Flag down.
I have kept the mini-poster where I will see it everyday, because it just kills me to think that the world our (yours and mine) fathers fought to save, would go down without a fight. If your leaders lower your flag for Islam, then who in Europe is left? Who will be mad at our "oversexed, overpaid" Americans if somehow you are defeated? God I would miss you.
If you can get that kind of angry over my percieved injustice, then I trust you are already angry about injustice to your Flag.
I'll go be condescending somewhere else now, but just so you don't feel left out ...
USA all the way! Not without the UK! Cheers!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 22, 2006 07:51 PM
By the by, are the timestamps getting a bit fucked here? New comments seem to be appearing half way up the page....
Posted by: Joe Public at October 22, 2006 07:54 PM
Did "The Guardian" complain because there weren't enough White jazz musicians in Eastwood's "Bird?"
Eurotrash firmly believe in the upside down myth of Blacks being oppressed in America, and no amount of reality will convince them otherwise. Hating America trumps all reason.
The notion that hyper-tolerant Whitey is keeping the Black man down is unequivocally stupid.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at October 23, 2006 05:43 AM
No hard feelings.
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Posted by: Greyrooster at October 23, 2006 10:26 AM
From what I've readBubbamust have been asoldier because he was black andgot his ask kicked and Forest Gump would be theMarine because he was white and ahero???
Posted by: rob at October 23, 2006 01:05 PM
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 23, 2006 01:05 PM
Eskimo was on the beach that fateful day and won the Navy Cross after
beating back, single handedly, a viscous Japanese bayonet charge with
nothing more then a 12 inch dildo and 55 gallon drum of KY jelly and we
have no representation for him/her in the movie. Damn right wing
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