Dirty Bomb Threat Against NFL Stadiums This Weekend: Original Threat Found? (UPDATED: Confirmed, we have original threatening post)

Over the last several months chatter coming from al Qaeda operatives have warned that Muslims should leave U.S. cities in advance of a dirty bomb attack which would be carried out by Adnan G. El Shukrijumah.

We have a copy of what may have been is the initial NFL theat below.

Now, a new warning that the specific target of the attack will be NFL football stadiums this weekend. The Department of Homeland Security has downplayed the veracity of the threat.

Chad at In The Bullpen has links to this Houston Chronicle story and commentary here.

Reports indicate that the threat was made on an Islamic website, but I am unaware of where the threat was posted. Who posted the threat and where it was posted would be a key issue here. There are literally thousands of Islamic websites in which all kinds of threats are made on a daily basis. But certain users are known to be connected, while most others seem to be teenage Muslims full of bluster and living out their snuff fantasies.

A source, using his handy "Combat Terrorism" toolbar, found this on a thread posted on a non-Islamic forum which has been taken offlline. It reads:

On Sunday, October 22nd, 2006, there will be seven "dirty" explosive devices detonated in seven different U.S. cities; Miami, New York City, Atlanta, Seattle, Houston, Oakland and Cleveland. The death toll will approach 100,000 from the initial blasts and countless other fatalities will later occur as result from radioactive fallout.

The bombs themselves will be delivered via trucks. These trucks will pull up to stadiums hosting NFL games in each respective city. All stadiums to be targeted are open air arenas, excluding Atlanta's Georgia Dome, the only enclosed stadium to be hit. Due to the open air, the radiological fallout will destroy those not killed in the initial explosion. The explosions will be near simultaneous, with the cities specifically chosen in different time zones to allow for multiple attacks at the same time.

The 22nd of October will mark the final day of Ramadan as it would fall in Mecca. Al-Qaida will automatically be blamed for the attacks. Later, through Al-Jazeera, Osama bin Laden will issue a video message claiming responsibility for what he dubs "America's Hiroshima".

In the aftermath civil wars will erupt across the world, both in the Middle East and within the United States. Global economies will screech to a halt. General chaos will rule.

UPDATE: Confirmed. This is the original message.

The poster 'javness' does not say where he got the information, nor does it seem very reliable. This could be the initial 'threat', which was then recirculated on Islamic message boards, or it could be a reposting of a threat posted on Islamic bulletin boards at an earlier time. UPDATE: No, we have independent confirmation that this is the original source of the threat.

But, you'll note, that it is from a month ago. Since it names the exact same cities as those in the 'threat' being mentioned in press accounts today, it would seem that the 'threat' has been around for some time.

Also, the website seems to have been around for a long time---since 2003-- and now it's down. But it is not an Islamic website. Maybe the feds got wind of this and are now in the process of "deterring" a wannabe from making such threats in the future?

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EMBEDDED UPDATE: The Feds are saying it came on an English language website. The now defunct site where this was found? "The F*cked Society".

Also, it is in the middle of a "truther" thread which explains why the poster alludes to al Qaeda "claiming" they were behind the bombing. But we really know who did it, wink wink.

My guess is that it is being recycled around the sphere.

Another UPDATE: Allah took a screenshot of the now defunct website.

Change me back from the 'skeptical but worried' column to the 'dismissive and pissed that this was national news' column.

UPDATE AGAIN: Paul Begala questions the timing on CNN.

UPDATE: 10/19. Hold the phone. We found an even earlier instance of the same "threat". It is from Oct. 3rd. It's at this website. The poster is listed simply as "Australia". The text is precisely the same as the one circulating in the media (cited below) and which started the entire "scare". So, our original inclination to believe this has been circulating the web for some time seems to be correct. We have a screenshot, just in case the website goes down.

In any event, it is still a truther conspiracy nut that was behind it.

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The threat also comes on the heels of two similar threats from al Qaeda sources within Afghanistan through two seperate Pakistani media contacts. First, an al Qaeda contact told Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir that a nuclear dirty bomb attack was imminent. A second nuclear threat was phoned in to a former al Jazeera journalist, in Pakistan, Jamal Ismail. Some have implied from the threats that the attack would happen before the end of Ramadan, which is Monday night.

Both threats claimed that an American al Qaeda member, Adnan G. El Shukrijumah (pictured above), had already snuck over the Mexican border, and that the dirty bomb materials were in the U.S. waiting for detonation.

In both cases, I have downplayed the seriousness of the reports. In my mind, al Qaeda media whores can't stand to play second fiddle to the communists of North Korea or to the Shia terrorist state in Iran.

Except for one odd note, I might dismiss the threats out of hand. A Tom Clancy inspired fantasy (see, The Sum of All Fears) on the part of would-be jihadis.

A reader who lives near Austin believes she had an encounter with Adnan G. El Shukrijumah over the summer as he tried to rent an apartment from her. The person tried to pass himself off as a Mexican national, but the reader believes he was definitely not Mexican.

Alone, this means little, but last week the local SWAT team showed up at her office looking for Arabs who had tried to pass themselves off as Mexican nationals. Adnan G. El Shukrijumah is said to speak Spanish, has been spotted in Mexico and other Latin American and Caribbean

Further, both the Texans and the Cowboys have home games before the end of Ramadan on Monday night. Houston and Dallas are both within 4 hour drives from Austin.

The last threat specifically warned Muslims to leave New York.

Of the seven cities threatened, only New York has any overlap from the previous two threats. The Houston / Dallas connection is only via our reader who believes she spotted Adnan G. El Shukrijumah. Which, incidentally, she got the distinct vibe that he was casing the rental for its potential criminal use.

So, am I still dismissive of the various dirty bomb and nuclear threats? I think I've moved from dismissive to skeptical, and now to still skeptical with a hint of worry. Not necessarily by the NFL threat, but by the confluence of all the threats at once. Howie agrees that the dirty bomb threat is not too credible. After all, those making the NFL threats could have been inspired by those earlier threats--which may have had no basis in reality whatsoever. And if we have found the original threat, it seems much more fantasy than anything else. The poster 'javness' describes himself as....well, you really don't want to know, but think the bad gay in a very jeuvenile way.

But, again, I was a Boy Scout and our motto was "be prepared".

I'm sure others are covering this, including Chad at In The Bullpen, and I expect to update this post as it develops.

CBS:

A website is claiming that seven NFL football stadiums will be hit with radiological dirty bombs this weekend, but the government on Wednesday expressed doubts about the threat.

The threat, posted Oct. 12, was part of an ongoing Internet conversation titled "New Attack on America Be Afraid." It mentioned NFL stadiums in New York, Miami, Atlanta, Seattle, Houston, Oakland and Cleveland, where games are scheduled to be held this weekend.

The Homeland Security Department alerted authorities and stadium owners in those cities, as well as the NFL, of the web message but said the threat was being viewed "with strong skepticism." Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said there was no intelligence that indicated such an attack was imminent, and that the alert was "out of an abundance of caution."

"The department strongly encourages the public to continue to go about their plans, including attending events that involve large public gatherings such as football games," Knocke said.

The FBI also expressed doubt about the threat.

Gateway Pundit has more, including video of Adnan the dirty bomber.

Posted by: Rusty at 03:57 PM

Comments

1 dang - took you guys long enough. Nice work, though. I'm keeping an eye on this - have explicit interest. If ANYONE effs with my 'Hawks they'll wish they'd never heard the name Allah.

Posted by: Editor at October 18, 2006 05:08 PM

2 A stadium attack makes no sense as a stadium is not essential infrastructure.

But it's lots of people eating, drinking, enjoying life, and there's a buttload of media coverage already in place.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at October 18, 2006 05:17 PM

3 A stadium attack makes no sense as a stadium is not essential infrastructure.
Furthermore, it unnecessarily requires breaching an additional layer of security.

Posted by: Greg at October 18, 2006 05:22 PM

4 Looks like somebody's been reading a wee bit too much Tom Clancy ...

Posted by: LissaKay at October 18, 2006 05:35 PM

5 Reliant Stadium in Houston is not a strictly open air arena. It has a retractable roof, asdoes Minutemaid Park. With the rain we've been getting and the cold front on the way, I'd say the top will be closed on Sunday. Silly jihadis. Football is for REAL men. (as opposed to cowardly ones who wish they could blow up as many American children as they possibly can).

Posted by: RepJ at October 18, 2006 06:10 PM

6 Looks like a direct attempt to shut down my blog at rhymeswithright.mu.nu. The other six stadiums are just a distraction from their true target.

After all, my wife and I will be in our customary seats in section 541 at Reliant Stadium. GO TEXANS!

If i don't go watch NFL football, the terrorists win.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at October 18, 2006 06:36 PM

7 I hope this is not a credible threat and I'm sure our government is looking into it just to be safe. The only thing that bugs me is these nutcases keep ripping off Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan books. Tom Clancy is a good read and doesn't need his stories to be corrupted by these sadistic spawns of satan.

Posted by: NJRob at October 18, 2006 07:16 PM

8 How about them Cowboys? ::grin::

Sorry, first time poster, long time lurker, couldn't resist.

Posted by: Sue at October 18, 2006 08:07 PM

9 100,000 casualties? is this a Muslim mega bomb with a Plutonium core the size of a Football? the only thing more laughable that the claim, is that some people believed it.
The fact that someone thinks that Al-Qaeda would tell the U.S
A:) Date of attack
B:) Place(s) to be attacked
C:) Weapon used in attack
D:) How it will be attacked (Truck bomb outside)

Speaks pretty bad about our nations gullibility.


Posted by: davec at October 18, 2006 08:22 PM

10 The IslamOfascists may be planning an attack to stick to the facts (possibly a requirement?) that The Month of Ramadan is always especially violent; thus helping prove the case for Islam being the true Religion of Peace.

absurd thought -
God of the Universe wants
religions of terror

:(

Posted by: Little Blue PD at October 18, 2006 09:42 PM

11 Does anyone else see this latest threat number of cities and basic locations that were hit on the fictional TV show Jerrico? I think this NFL thing is a hoax.

Posted by: minerva at October 18, 2006 09:45 PM

12 Does anyone else see this latest threat number of cities and basic locations that were hit on the fictional TV show Jerrico? I think this NFL thing is a hoax.

Posted by: minerva at October 18, 2006 09:45 PM

13 Er, I found this yesterday afternoon -- it took me about five minutes. (The thread title was in the AP story.) Links to the the thread (Yahoo cache) and a screen shot here.

Posted by: Steve M. at October 19, 2006 05:35 AM

14 Just an observation on the "label" attached to Javness's name on that forum -- it is a standardized label indicating his "reputation."

When you load the cached version you will note that all the users have labels associated with their login names. And all the labels are obscene. And the file referred to in the url behind these labels is reputation.php. And the specific label associated with Javness is also associated with some other users.

So it appears that forum just used the rather common practice of assigning "titles" or descriptions to login names. Though I have to wonder if perhaps the "reputation" files were hacked to substitute these putrid "reputations." On the other hand, given these types were frequenting a forum named what it was perhaps they didn't mind the labels -- but all the users had the labels.

Posted by: KG at October 19, 2006 08:27 AM

15 Flying airplanes into buildings was also a "Clancy inspired fantasy" - see "Debt of Honor" - until someone actually did so on 9/11.

Posted by: Slacker at October 19, 2006 09:21 AM

16 They just mentioned the story again on Fox News, and showed a picture of "Brother Adnan."
Still saying "not credible," at least, but you're apparently way ahead of them on the story. (Unsurprisingly.)

Posted by: Beth at October 19, 2006 09:31 AM

17 http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/elshukrijumah.htm


OK WHAT THE FUCK, YOUR GOVERNMENT IS CLAIMING THIS GUYS THREAT IS NOT REAL WHEN IF YOU REALLY DO YOUR RESEARCH THEY ARE SLOWLY ALREADY NOW TRYING TO COVER THEIR BUTT ON THIS, THAT IS WHY HOMELAND SECURITY WARNED US. THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM FBI.GOV THE SAME DAMN GUY, WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA ISN'T IT TIME YOUR GOVERNMENT STOPPED LYING TO YOU AND WE STOOD UP TO THEM ALREADY, PLEASE DON'T LET YOUR LOVED ONES GO TO THESE STADIUMS THIS WEEKEND. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS REALLY PLANNING.

Posted by: METALRAVEN at October 19, 2006 10:03 AM

18 IF HE IS NOT A CREDIBLE THREAT WHY DOES THE FBI SHOW HIM IN THIS LIGHT:

Adnan G. El Shukrijumah is wanted in connection with possible terrorist threats against the United States.


REWARD

The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $5 million for information leading directly to the capture of Adnan G. El Shukrijumah.

Posted by: METALRAVEN at October 19, 2006 10:09 AM

19 El Shukrijumah is possibly involved with al-Qaeda terrorist activities and, if true, poses a serious threat to U.S. citizens and interests worldwide.

http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/english/index.cfm?page=El_Shukrijumah

WANTED
Adnan G. El Shukrijumah
Up to $5 Million Reward

Posted by: METALRAVEN at October 19, 2006 10:41 AM

20 http://www.cbsnews.com/elements/2003/09/05/iraq/whoswho571789_0_3_person.shtml


Officials have previously described El Shukrijumah as a possible al Qaeda operational planner similar to Mohammed Atta, a key organizer of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

Posted by: METALRAVEN at October 19, 2006 10:46 AM

21 http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=27869

HE IS ALSO ON AMERICA'S MOST WANTED

I have proven to you all that yes he is a known threat to this country, and yet now your government is telling you he is not a credible threat and just a regular Arab picked up from the website with the NFL threats on stadiums this weekend....PLEASE PLEASE WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!

Posted by: METALRAVEN at October 19, 2006 10:49 AM

22 Overall, I'm glad this was a hoax, but with the CNN building being next door to the Georgia Dome....

But both structures are too close to my home.

Posted by: Marvin at October 19, 2006 11:33 AM

23 metalraven

This hoax threat was not issued by Al Queda...It was published by some '9-11 truther'. The threat to attack NFL games is not credible.

Adnan G. El Shukrijumah is a credible threat.

Posted by: Marvin at October 19, 2006 11:46 AM

24 Yes that page I sent you was just a picture of El-Shukrijumah, I think I did make a wrong connection, cause I woke up this morning turned on Fox News, and they were showing this guys picture while they were talking about this Milwaukee man in custody, so I just put the picture and what they were saying together, but didn't hear the full report...so probably just overreacting on my part, yes I have tried searching other sites to find out who this "javness" supposedly is, but none do point to them being El-Shukrijumah, at least not yet. Ah, so sigh of relief. We also have realize that elections are coming up and Homeland Security has to "make themselves look good" amongst all these reports on how "well protected" our border along Mexico is. So if they catch someone that had a threat like this just makes themselves look good of course and makes us think they are all doing their jobs trying their best to protect this country.

Posted by: METALRAVEN at October 19, 2006 12:19 PM

25 the page was acually taked down due to bandwith usage. it will be back soon

Posted by: tfs member at October 19, 2006 05:19 PM






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