An Attack On One Of Us Is An Attack On All Of Us

Baseless, unsubstantiated attacks will not go unanswered here. Not while I'm sucking oxygen, that is.

Our friend Rusty, well known for his intense dislike of the entire religion of Islam, is now calling for a boycott of Indonesia. One of the few Muslim nations that's a genuine liberal democracy, and he wants to boycott an entire country of 300 million people. His reasoning?

With friends like you, who needs enemas? Feel free to provide a link where Rusty claims an "intense dislike of the entire religion of Islam." Indonesia, a genuine liberal democracy? Really? Have you asked Hugh Hefner about that one? And does 50% of a true Liberal Democracy (proper grammar is your friend) advocate stoning to death for adulterers?

Well let's see: earlier this year, three Christians were convicted in court of masterminding a sectarian attack that saw over 200 muslims killed. Rusty presumes them innocent because, after all, they're Christians. Rusty also mentions that one of the Muslims implicated in the Bali massacre got off with a light sentence--but doesn't bother to mention that three other Muslims are all on Death Row right now in Indonesia for the Bali attacks.

First off, this is a total lie. Here is what Rusty said: "If these guys are guilty of involvement in a massacre that killed over 200--mostly women and children, let me volunteer my services for the firing squad."

Second, the boycott has nothing to do with the execution of these men. They were executed on September 21st. This boycott is being called for after the wanton murder of a Christian minister who was neither accused, nor convicted of anything. And it was Rusty's response to a Christian commenter, living in Indonesia. The commenter, Stan, advocated firebombing mosques in retaliation. If you bothered to read the post, which you didn't, because you've obviously stuck your head up Andrew Sullivan's ass, you would know this.

Rusty is going to have to provide more evidence of routine slaughter of Christians than he's given us. Otherwise all I see is an apparent double-standard: Christians presumed innocent, Muslims presumed guilty. And if that's not true, then what is the truth?

Gee, why don't you re-read the Indonesia category.

I ask again: why do all the people who mention that ONE of the Muslims accused of being part of the Bali attacks got off with a light sentence never bother to mention that THREE OTHER MUSLIMS got the death penalty and are awaiting execution even now in Indonesia?

They are mentioned on The Jawa Report. "The unbiased Reuters which, in the interest of fairness, lets the readers know that 3 Muslims are also about to be executed. Of course, these are the Bali bombers--completely unrelated to the ongoing clashes between Muslims and the Christian and Hindu minorities." See, Dean? Trying to morally equivocate Muslim vs. Dhimmi violence with the Bali bombings, well, it may work in Dean's World, but here, not so much. And yes, we have chronicled another flat out Esmay lie.

If they don't even bother mentioning it, it's hard not to conclude that they hold Muslims to different standards from Christians.

See above. And yes, we do hold different standards. Maybe you missed the memo, but not all Muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims.

And please, please, show me the Christians who are calling for a global caliphate. Show me the Christians who are rioting over the Bible being trashed in Saudi Arabia. Show me the Christians who threaten a fellow Christian for converting to another religion. Tell me, Dean, did the Pope, or the Patriarchs, or the leaders of any Christian denomination call for the death of John Walker Lindh when it was discovered that he had converted to Islam? Can you say the same for Muslims who have converted to Christianity?

Sorry Rusty, I love ya, but you have to work a lot harder than you have so far to convince me that Indonesia's a hellhole where Christians are routinely slaughtered and Muslims routinely get away with murder.

Trust me, as one of Rusty's true friends, your love shall be forever unrequited.

The only way to answer this is....why don't you do us all a favor and move there. If you love the place so much, why don't you give us a first hand account of the Christian Paradise that is Indonesia.

Now, I have some questions for you, Dean.

Are you related to Scott Ritter?

Does your "moderate" Muslim co-blogger, Aziz Poonwalla still believe that Israel is developing a "genetic bomb" that only kills Arabs and not Jews? Does he still think that it's even plausible?

Does the fact that he buys the Lancet survey make you cringe?

Millions of Shi'a Muslims believe in taqiyyah, yet you don't. However, your "moderate" Muslim co-blogger is Shiite. Care to explain?

The most prominent Christian terrorist organization in the world is the Irish Republican Army. Please cite for me the Biblical quotes they use to justify their actions. Cherry pick at your will, but please back it up with actual cites.

Why is there only one link in your post, to Rusty's boycott post, and not one other to back up your claims?

Finally, why haven't you bothered to publish Al Brown's email? Which you begged to do?

Update by Howie: Amen Vinnie:

Posted by: Vinnie at 11:23 PM


1 "...because you've obviously stuck your head up Andrew Sullivan's ass..."


Sticking his head up Tory Bear Sully's ass was most certainlya SEMINALevent for him...

Posted by: Darth Juevos at October 17, 2006 01:06 AM

2 Outlaw islam wherever it may be found.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 17, 2006 01:16 AM

3 Dean, you wrote:
“Sorry Rusty, I love ya, but you have to work a lot harder than you have so far to convince me that Indonesia's a hellhole where Christians are routinely slaughtered.”

Please go to any of the following links for evidence that minority Christians are targeted for brutal slaughter:

8 9 10 11 12 14 15 16 17 20 23 26 29 30

Then, go ahead and continue spitting at this little girl in the face:

Posted by: Darth Juevos at October 17, 2006 01:20 AM

4 Dean,

C'mon over and I'll show you people who live in fear of being killed by Muslims. Unless you're living in the situation, I'd advise you to shut your piehole and not talk about something you know nothing about. We'll see how long you last if I stick you in Blok M in Jakarta with a "Muslim Jancok" sign around your neck. You'd be dead in a minute. Use your writing skill for somethingmore positive and constructiveinstead of attacking other writers like Michelle and Rusty. There is also talk here that the Bali bombers may not get the death penalty now and that the court may over-rule the verdict and say that the death penalty for terrorism is not able to be used for bombings prior to legislation. In that case, the case will get thrown out and theywill have to be triedagain.


I didn't say firebomb a mosque. I said remember boys and girls, thermite can be your best friend. Oops.... how did that metal tower fall on that mosque?...teeheehee....bad infidel. As much as I'd liketo sometimes, I'd never firebomb a mosque. I get more joy out of legallyclosing them for membership violations. They can't complain because they violated the law. I wouldn't mindoperating the bulldozer that gets to demolish though while listening to Outlaw Torn by Metallica.

Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at October 17, 2006 03:34 AM

5 Dean,

I almost forgot. While you were crunching numbers there on your site about the 10% that supported jihad, you neglected to mention the 1 in 5 that support terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah and the 1 in 5 that support the Mujahidin Majelis Indonesia. Both feature that Christian and West loving Abu Bakr Ba'asyir, one group for local (MMI) and the other for Indonesia and SE Asia. I'm sure you can go to Solo to hisboarding school and tellhim what a beautiful liberal country Indonesia is and you'll be treated well, seeing as he wants to institute Shariah law and kick out or kill all non-Muslims out of Indonesia. That would mean you too unless you've alreadysubmitted to Allah and haven't told us yet.P.S. There's only 220 million people in Indonesia, not 300 million. There might have been about 250 million if Muslim government, militants and regular Muslims hadn't slaughtered so many people of all faiths, ethnicities (Chinese, Papuans, Ambonese, etc), journalists, NGO's,and political ideologists (Communists in particular) in the last 40 years.

Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at October 17, 2006 04:10 AM

6 And another bomb has just gone off in Poso. I can't wait to go down there tomorrow and enjoy the bombing. Care to come with us Dean?

Posted by: Stan the Infidel in Indonesia at October 17, 2006 05:14 AM

7 One thing about the Irish Republican Army, their goal was not conquering the world. Their enemies were not everyone who didnt think just like them. And where are the IRA now? Do they still exist? I dont know, thats why I ask.

islam is not anyones' friend. Even their un-holy book states that muslims should not make friends with infidels. They sue for peace only when they are losing and wait until they have the upper hand again to make war. All this has been pointed out and cited many times by many others before. islam is just plain evil.

Posted by: JeepThang at October 17, 2006 07:52 AM

8 Awesome job on that post, Vinnie.

Posted by: Richard H. at October 17, 2006 08:35 AM

9 I just love it when a person does this kind of comment.....
"Sorry, (insert any name) I love ya, BUT"

Phony respect through and through!!

Vinnie, excellent response to the character known as Dean. So does he have Muslims in his family? Is that why he is so very pro Islam and pro Muslim? Has Dean ever met a Muslim and heard them say how they hate Jews, because they do! And they do say it too if you meet one and talk to them for longer then 5 minutes.

Ole Dean seems to have selective memory. Or maybe he didn't care when it happened. Indonesia made it very clear how they felt about Jews and Israel when their tsunami hit.

A person cannot be in foxholes on both sides. Dean has chosen very clearly the side of the Muslims.

I like our side better, we take showers and don't belong to a death cult.

Posted by: Wild Thing at October 17, 2006 08:45 AM

10 Who the F%$ is Dean Esmay?

Posted by: Big White Infidel at October 17, 2006 09:00 AM

11 My take on Islam and/or the Middle East is this: When was the last time anything good came from either one? Has anyone in the Middle East created a lifesaving vaccine, made a discovery, or invented even a longer lasting light bulb? When was the last time anyone remembers Islam reaching out to the poor and diseased and giving a helping hand? Theyonly exploit the poor to fight their personal jihads.I am not religious in any way, so I wouldn't be a good judge of exactlyhow much Christians do for others, but I figure it is a world more than thefollowers of Islam. What I'm trying to convey here is than NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, but violence, evil, death,destruction, misery, and religious bias comes out of the Middle East and Islam. Besides oil, those are the only exports.

Posted by: Jack'sSmirkingRevenge at October 17, 2006 09:26 AM

12 If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).- Qur'an 3:85

We need to let them know we are the other and we are here to stay.

Posted by: kaosktrl at October 17, 2006 09:27 AM

13 Nice. Esmay picks a fight with allah (hot air) and malkin and gets pounded like cheap veal, so he drops down from the bigtime to a midtown blog, thinking it's easy pickings, and gets kicked around.

No offense about the midtown thing.

What a freaking tool.

Posted by: jdubious at October 17, 2006 10:48 AM

14 In defense of the mooouslimescontributions to society, they did after all invent the burqua. Simple inconcept and design, and affordable to even the poor, it shelters the world from the ugliness and horror that lies beneath.

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 17, 2006 11:02 AM

15 Vinnie:'Not while I'm sucking oxygen, that is.'

You suoak, Vinnie.

Posted by: Greg at October 17, 2006 11:03 AM

16 Just like an Islamist, Dean can't defend his opinion without the tactic of DISTRACTION--attacking those with whom he doesn't agree. That post of his could've been written by some CAIR hack and nobody would know the difference.

"Our friend." LOL!!!

"With all due respect," Dean, you're full of it.

Posted by: Beth at October 17, 2006 12:24 PM

17 I'm beginning to believe that some Iranian mullah has a picture of Dean in a burqa being humped by a goat and is blackmailing him. How else to explain his shrill, desperate defense of Islam and his feverish insistence on the widespread existence of moderate Muslims.By misrepresenting the words of Robert Spencer, Michelle Malkin, and now Rusty, his only value now lies in the entertainment derived from reading his spittle-flecked invective aimed at those who dare disagree with him (because dammit, he lives near Dearborn, and he knows Muslims). Hint Dean: There are lots of us who live near Dearborn (or Sterling Heights or Troy) and we know Muslims too. And we ain't likin' what we're seein'.

Posted by: dame cecily at October 17, 2006 03:09 PM

18 Damn it. Now I've got to drive to Slidell and beat the shit out of that muslim again.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 17, 2006 04:09 PM

19 I used to have a better opinion of Dean, and even once wrote that he
was one of the good guys. I guess even I can be wrong once a year or
so. Turns out he's just a piece of shit lefturd apologist just
like all other liberals. Of course, he's not much different than many
that post here. A little, but not much.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 17, 2006 07:37 PM

20 Aw come on Rooster. We know you're looking forward to it ...

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 18, 2006 05:01 PM

21 Yea. Now that I have a purple sheet I get to watch. Don't know why I hate this muslim so much. He's the biggest racist in town. See there's some good in everyone. This guy has a conveinence store and gas station. If a white guy pulls to the pump, you can go ahead and fill up then pay inside. If a black pulls up, he must go inside and pay first. He has two raghead sons and a father in law. Whenever, me and the boys pull up they all run to the back room and pretend to be getting something they can't seem to find. Finally he comes out, smiling and acting like an old friend. Sometimes we do something mean. Sometimes we don't. Totally blows his mind. Problem is I hear he's opening another store. Rumor is is that they don't have to pay taxes for 5 years and get low interest government guaranteed loans simply because they are minorities?Crazy huh!

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 19, 2006 07:44 PM

22 Meanwhile where's my health insurance and retirement?

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 19, 2006 11:08 PM

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