Dhimmification Denied

Stein hoist to uber-kafir Patrick for this:

TAMPA, Fla., Oct. 26 (UPI) -- A Florida school district has decided that students will get no religious holidays from school after a debate over which religion should get the days.

Hillsborough County School Board members approved the 2006-2007 school year calendar with only three holiday days off -- Labor Day, President's Day and Martin Luther King Jr. Day, the Tampa Tribune reports.

Ahmed Bedier of the Council on American-Islamic Relations had hoped for a day off of school for the Muslim holy day of Eid Al-Fitr, which marks the end of Ramadan.

Bishop Chuck Leigh of the Florida Council of Churches said the board made a mistake in not granting the Muslim holiday.

But school board attorney Tom Gonzalez told the board that it was wrong to close the school for any religion.

Students who miss class for a religious holiday will not be penalized.

Wow, I was all set to do a throwdown on this school district, because at first glance it appears that they're inconveniencing everyone just to appease CAIR. Typically, that's how these things tend to work. See: 10 Commandments monuments, et.al.

But then I took a look at my kids calendar for school, where no CAIR member dare to tread, and here are the single day holidays:

Labor Day
Martin Luther King Day
President's Day
Memorial Day

So I thought, hm, they've axed Thanksgiving to appease CAIR, but then I dug out the (PDF alert!) school calendar mentioned in the article, and there it was.

What about Christmas? Still off, because it falls under the politically correctly monikered Winter Break.

So, we can give this school district kudos for telling CAIR to shove it, albeit in an offhand way. All they did was put out a press release saying that they're going to keep the same days off that they did before, but, by adding the religious angle, they get CAIR off of their backs.

There is a dark side to the tale, however. I took a look at the calendar for (PDF alert!) this school year, and compared it to the one for next, and there was a single day holiday eliminated.

Veterans Day. (if you're wondering about Memorial Day, a look at the calendar shows these schools let out before then)

Posted by: Vinnie at 11:02 PM


1 DId u even read the story? The school, which has a large muslim population, asked the board to recognise Eid, since it recognises christmas and 2 jewish holidays. Fair enough, ud think but this being america, the school decided to rescind ALL religious holidays instead of giving muslim students whats they deserve.

Posted by: Jason at October 28, 2005 05:41 AM

2 Jason, I don't know what story you read, but I read four accounts of this and never once saw any particular school mentioned nor a "large Muslim population" in any one school or the district itself. Sources, please.

Kids and teachers have had Christmas holidays and Easter holidays for many decades. Then they were forced to name them "Winter Break" And "Spring Break" so as not to offend anyone. Now some want to add more holidays to the curriculum. Next, the Wiccans will want something like "Gaia Day" off, or the Buddhists will want their own "New Year's Day" off. The ACLU and other groups have fought long and hard to keep religion out of it and now the Muslims want to add religion back to the mix. Do you think the ACLU will fight it? I doubt it.

CAIR has been trying to get the government to release an actual statement recognizing Islam as "one of the world's great religions" and this is just a backdoor attempt to get it done. Is the ACLU against this? Haven't heard a peep.

It's time to just leave well enough alone. They said no student will be punished for taking their religious holiday off. I think that's enough.

Posted by: Oyster at October 28, 2005 06:26 AM

3 Of course I read the story, but you apparently didn't read the post.

Like Oyster said, if come in and make these assertions, you need to provide some links.

Posted by: Vinnie at October 28, 2005 06:55 AM

4 Jason, the only think 'slamotards "deserve" is a one-way ticket back to 'slamotardistan and a boot in the ass when they get there, and a warning not to return under penalty of death. If they want to take a holiday honoring their pedophile prophet, let them take it at Christmas or Thanksgiving.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 28, 2005 07:39 AM

5 It wont be long until we wont be celebrating anything except some muselum holidays all becuase of the jerks that run the school boards and the secular idiots at the leftist ACLU

Posted by: sandpiper at October 28, 2005 08:29 AM

6 Veterans Day next year falls on a Saturday. And I would rather that my sons attend school on Veterans Day. Then they get to hear from actual Veterans and meet the true heroes in our community.

Posted by: Bullshark at October 28, 2005 08:32 AM

7 I think the progression of your thoughts and feelings beginning with outrage and ending with taking a deeper look at the issue is a typical one. I was also angered at this story but there are some very important questions that do need to be dealth with the most relevant being - When does a traditional judeo-christian nation like ours have enough diversity that we have alter our traditional view of religious holidays? If half the country converted to Islam would we hold on to our Christian government sponsered holidays just for the sake of tradition?

Posted by: Jeremy at October 28, 2005 08:36 AM

8 Jeremy,

We don't have any state sponsered Christian holidays anymore. That has been done away with. Do you see a reason to start that again?

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 28, 2005 10:40 AM

9 "When does a traditional judeo-christian nation like ours have enough diversity that we have alter our traditional view of religious holidays?"

We've already reached that point. While individually we have not altered our views, as a nation we have. Hence the politally correct non-mention of "Christmas". As Easter falls on Sunday, and most people don't work on Sunday anyway, the only other ones are Good Friday, which is not as widely recognized in the workplace, and Christmas Day. And it depends on what business you're in as to whether you get ANY holidays of ANY kind off.

But, you missed the point entirely. This is school. Remember? Where no religion is supposed to be mentioned? You know - "Winter Break" rather than "Christmas Vacation" and all that? Now they want another day declared off for "religious purposes" when we're not supposed to have religion in our schools. So what do we do now? Abolish winter break because one day out of two weeks is a Christian holiday? Or shift it so that Christmas Day is not in that two week period in order for a minority not to be offended?

As they said, "Students who miss class for a religious holiday will not be penalized." This is the respectful thing to do - not declare another holiday for religious purposes which a majority of students will not be celebrating as they are not Muslim.

Posted by: Oyster at October 28, 2005 04:08 PM

10 Simple fact: the majority of people in this country celebrate Christmas in one way or another, be it religiously or commercially. If you held school on those days it would be a waste because no one would be there. And I teach, so trust me, those teachers that didn't get approved for personal days would be calling out sick. I'm also aware of a county in a neighboring state that has off for the Jewish holidays of Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, because of the large Jewish population among students, but also staff. The fact that they wouldn't have enough substitutes, warrants those days off.

As for holidays, who can I complain to that I no longer have off for Columbus Day? I remember as a kid spending a week before talking about the Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. Now he's a murdering bastard and the students don't know anything about him. Oh well, at least when they did away with the Columbus Day holiday around here, they gave back the Veteran's Day holiday.

Posted by: Maureen at October 28, 2005 05:04 PM

11 And , hey! What about Festivus for the rest of us?

Posted by: Maureen at October 28, 2005 05:33 PM

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