PC Hacks at OU Paper Covering Up Oklahoma Bombing

joelhenryhinrichsIII.jpgThe University of Oklahoma student newspaper, The Oklahoma Daily (OD), today calls for the FBI break its silence on Joel Henry Hinrichs III--the OU student who blew himself up outside a football game on Oct. 1. The reason? To dispell the myths propogated by online 'hacks' that are claiming that the Oklahoma bomber, Hinrichs, may have been part of a larger Islamic terror plot.

Underlying today's editiorial is the assumption that Hinrichs was not part of a larger plot and that any evidence to the contrary is simply poor journalism.

The Oklahoma Daily even goes so far as to call those circulating this evidence "liars".

Such accusations come as no surprise to Jawa Report readers. The prevailing wisdom in both academia and in the media is that worries about homegrown Islamic terror cells are overblown. In many corners, especially prevelant in our nations' universities, there is even suspicion that the Bush Administration is really behind domestic terror fears as a way of diverting the publics' attention away from real issues.

It remains to be seen whether of not Joel Henry Hinrichs III was part of a larger Islamic terror plot. Stating unequivocally that he was part of such a plot is, in fact, shoddy journalism.

However, it is equally shoddy journalism to state, unequivocally, that Hinrichs was not part of such a plot. And to state, unequivocally, that there is no evidence that would lead some to this conclusion is the type of head-buried-in-the-sand type of journalism that we've come to expect out of the mainstream-media and in who's image aspiring journalists are molded.

There is, in fact, a great deal of circumstantial evidence to suggest that Hinrichs' death was a failed terror attack. Glaringly missing from today's OD editorial is the fact that Hinrichs was under investigation by local authorities because he had attempted to buy ammonium nitrate, a key ingredient in the truck bomb used to bring down the Murrah building in Oklahoma City by Timothy McVeigh. Hinrichs, of course, blew himself up before the investigation could be completed. A first, we might add, since there is no record of an American killing himself by explosion.

Further, neighbors of Hinrichs claim he was a frequent visitor to a nearby mosque. The leaders of the OU Muslim Student Association, though, deny that Hinrichs was a Muslim. At best, then, we have conflicting reports. But just because the OU student newpaper cannot confirm that Hinrichs attended the mosque in question does not mean that media reports to the contrary are fabrications. They could be fabrications, but, then again, so could the denials.

The problem with this student newspaper, and the mainstream-media in general, is that they cower in fear over reaction to any implication that the Muslim community might have a greater propensity towards terrorism than, say, the Mennonite community. They are, in fact, held hostage from the truth by their unwavering faith that all religious ideologies are equal in driving violence as those on the other end of the spectrum are held hostage from the truth by their unwavering faith that Islam, alone, is responsible for the ills of the world.

They are right in the central premise of the editorial: the FBI ought to release pertinent information. But they make a major assumptive leap, which is quite revealing, that whatever information the FBI has would be exculpatory rather than damning.

Release the information, they say, because we know (without having seen this information) that it will prove there is no Islamic terror cell at the OU campus.

The fact remains that we have no idea what evidence the FBI has. The only bit of revealing information about which way the evidence is leading the FBI is a single statement from first assistant attorney for the Justice Department in Oklahoma City, Bob Troester, who said:

We don't comment on sealed indictments.
An indictment, even a sealed one, would mean that the FBI is already contemplating further arrest in the Oklahoma bombing. After all, one does not indict a corpse.

Of course, Troester's statement could have been a slip of the tongue. He could have meant sealed search warrant rather than indictment. People make mistakes, slips of tongue happen. But until such time as the Justice Department seeks to clarify the statement, then we ought to assume that they meant what they said.

The fundamental question raised is whether or not we have learned anything from 9/11 or not? Do we continue to treat terrorism, as we did prior to 9/11, as an act of criminality or do we treat terrorism as an act of war?

If a mere criminal act, then the public ought to reserve judgement. Innnocent until proven guilty, it is better to let a hundred guilty men go free than convict one innocent, etc., etc, and all that. The greatest fear among people with this point of view is that innocents are unfairly branded enemies and that publications, like this, might call someone a name they don't desrve.

If an act of war, then the public has a right to expect that affirmative measures will be taken to assure that such acts will not take place in the future. In war, there is no presumption of innocence. In fact, when an act of war (such as a bombing) takes place on a field of battle (as the American homeland now is) in such a way that the only known incidents of the act have been perpetrated by enemy combatents (as suicide-bombings are relatively rare outside the Islamic terror community), then one ought to presume terrorism until otherwise disproven.

We at The Jawa Report take the latter stance. The context of war changes everything. If the OD does not understand that we are at war and that the field of battle is U.S. soil itself, then they have learned nothing from 9/11. Their greatest fear may be that innocents are unfairly branded terrorists, and that is a legitimate concern.

Our greatest fear, though, is that our enemies walk freely among us, using that presumption of innocence to plot our demise and kill us. In either case, the possibility of being wrong is present, but only in the latter will being wrong get people killed.

So, since the good editors at the OD decided to call us hacks (and worse) for suggesting that Hinrichs might just be part of a larger plot, let us practice that age old journalistic practice of tit-for-tat and suggest that it is the OD that is staffed by hacks. But hacks isn't sufficient a word to describe people who's agenda it is to make all seem right at OU, despite the fact that a student just blew himself up outside of a football game. No, hacks is reserved for mundane political types who say what they say in order to get their guy elected. As far as we can tell no one is running for election at OU--unless of course David Boren is thinking of coming out of retirement--so hacks isn't appropriate here. A far stronger term is needed to describe people willing to cover up what looks to be an act of terrorism in America's heartland and call that responsible journalism.

Any guesses on what that word is? Please put your answers in the comments section.

Posted by: Rusty at 12:01 PM

Comments

1 Useful idiots?

Posted by: FreakyBoy at October 10, 2005 12:47 PM

2 Politically correct hypocrits! The job of the student newspaper is to seek the truth. What have these wanna be journalists at the student newspaper done to advance the story? What prevents the student newspaper from getting out there and obtaining the facts? My advice to the students at the OU student newspaper: go to work and get the information. That is your job.

Posted by: jesusland joe at October 10, 2005 12:51 PM

3 I must admit, this one does look Amish.

Posted by: Carlos at October 10, 2005 01:07 PM

4 traitors.

Posted by: Howie at October 10, 2005 01:14 PM

5 The purpose of the student newspaper is to tell the truth unlike this website's article does. This website loves to make assumptions based on no facts. When the facts are out, maybe your story will be true. But probably not. But to claim some of the things you do, based on rumors and not fact, is sad. The OU Daily is much more responsible than this website!! They are true journalists because they won't publish something unless they know it's true! YOU GUYS JUST THROW YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORY'S OUT THERE HOPING THEY WILL SOMETIMES BE RIGHT!!

Posted by: David at October 10, 2005 01:16 PM

6 Ya know, libtards just keep wedging themselves tighter and tighter into this cleft stick they have cut for themselves. On the one hand they unconditionally support islamofascists who will gladly behead them as soon as they get the chance, and on the other hand, they shall almost certainly be hanged for treason by their fellow citizens whom they betray once things have progressed to the point of open warfare, which seems not far over the horizon at this point. We've all heard that the Tree of Libery must be occasionally watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots, but we must not leave out traitors as well.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at October 10, 2005 01:29 PM

7 The OU Daily is much more responsible than this website!!

Why? Because they unequivocally state something they cannot know?

Saying "it may be" is not saying "it is"; all I've seen here is "it may be".

Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 10, 2005 02:07 PM

8 David:

Let's see - what do we know for sure? Hinrichs blew himself up with explosives most commonly found in the bombs made by Islamic terrorists.

Suicide by explosive is extremely uncommon in the US - in fact, this may be the first case of suicide by bomb.

The reports that Hinrichs may have visited a mosque or not are just that - reports. We don't know for sure. That might be included in the sealed indictment (or warrant).

The FBI is conducting this investigation, which doesn't happen when you're talking about a garden variety suicide.

There are coincidences as to time, place, and manner of the bomb blowing up that warrant further investigation - namely occurring outside a major college football stadium full of fans who were ready to leave after the game ended.

Was there a suicide note, and if so, where is it?

We know that the roommate was Pakistani and investigators had questioned him.

We know that the MSA has issued statements denying any knowledge/involvment, but that has to be offset by their flacking for the community - it's their job to minimize bad PR. It was also worded in such a way that Hinrichs' could have been a regular visitor to the mosque without having converted.

The theory is that Hinrichs may have been involved in a terror cell - and that theory is supported by the circumstantial evidence and facts that we know thus far - most importantly because of the sealed indictment (or warrant).

And just because there might be a terror cell involved doesn't necessarily mean that this is an Islamic terror cell. That is one possibility though - other facts that might or might not play a role in this case is that Maoussaoui visited the same mosque, and the attendance of several of the 9/11 hijackers at the nearby flight school. Those facts increase the possibility of an Islamic terror cell existing/operating in Norman, OK. We need more information to confirm/deny this.

Posted by: lawhawk at October 10, 2005 02:13 PM

9 The OD writers are quick learners in the ways of today's "journalism". I've read the articles written in the school paper and seen how they are guilty of those things they accuse others of, yet they do not address these things each time they claim that there is "no evidence" to suggest this was more than just a suicide. They describe that "several items were removed from his apartment later", a "controlled demolition was conducted later", Hinrichs was not only depressed but "angry", a separate search of his apartment produced a "suspicious black bag" - the list goes on. Couple that with the spelling and grammar errors in the paper and I'd have to be blind and dumb as hell to say, "The OU Daily is much more responsible than this website!!"

They go on to warn about where we get our information on the story: "It is usually easy to discern blogs and other extremely personal and unchecked sites from legitimate news sources like newspaper or news station Web pages." Yet they do not speak of so much information produced by their own local Channel 9 that they regularly refute or deny. I'm confused - should I listen to legitimate news sources or not? Channel 9 sure seems legitimate to me.

"This website loves to make assumptions based on no facts." Are you serious? No facts? Hinrichs roommate wasn't Pakistani? Hinrichs wasn't depressed - he wasn't "angry"? He didn't blow himself up jihadi-style just outside a packed stadium? He didn't seek to buy ammonium nitrate days before? He didn't grow a Muslim style beard? He didn't live right around the corner from an Islamic center? No, this does not say that without a doubt it was a wider plot. I don't know about you, but it certainly doesn't tell me it wasn't.

We are not throwing out conspiracies hoping they'll be true. Legitimate speculation and questions are one thing. Outright denial in the face of facts we DO have is foolish.

Posted by: Oyster at October 10, 2005 02:37 PM

10 "A first, we might add, since there is no record of an American killing himself by explosion."

It happened to some teenagers where I grew up. They were working on a bomb in their garage -- and they blew up.

Posted by: actus at October 10, 2005 02:50 PM

11 Another point of undeniable fact is that he was next to buses that would have been packed with students and fans immediately after the game. It suggests that he intended to attack the buses. It does not prove it, of course.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 10, 2005 02:59 PM

12 I see there's still a lot of discussion about "facts" going on here.

First of all, as far as I can tell the ONLY place I've seen claims that Hinrichs attended a mosque was on Channel 9. MSM, by the way. Which was then picked up by blogs. No one has a named source. The other news outlets have the leader of the Mosque denying Hinrichs involvement. So it's not just a matter of "conflicting reports" or he-said/she-said. What you have is a case of he-said/some unidentified person heard a claim.

There's a difference.

The use of the word hacks? Yeah, no surprise there. Keep in mind you're dealing with a school paper and whereas the professional MSM might feel a need to keep the gloves off, I'm assuming these student journos--you know, at that age when they simply KNOW everything--are chomping at the bit to war with bloggers. (And as I said in my post about it, note too that these print journo guys take a swipe at TV journalists as well... there are territorial battles everywhere.)

Posted by: ken at October 10, 2005 03:00 PM

13 It happened to some teenagers where I grew up. They were working on a bomb in their garage -- and they blew up.

actus: There's a difference between "accident" and "suicide". Don't get silly on us.

Posted by: Oyster at October 10, 2005 03:07 PM

14 I see there's still a lot of discussion about "facts" going on here.

And that's supposed to mean, what, exactly?

You pointed out a fact in dispute. Which, oddly, lawhawk pointed out was in dispute. Which -- as far as I know -- has been pointed out as in dispute since it was disputed.

What about his location? About his attempt to buy ammonium nitrate?

And just why didn't his roommate notice -- and do something about -- his mixing up TATP? From what I've read, it's a smelly process. After the 7/7 attack, it was reported that people around the site where the bombs were mixed smelled strong chemical smells, but had no idea of the signifigance.

Posted by: Robert Crawford at October 10, 2005 03:08 PM

15 Hmm...this didn't start as a rant, but you never know.
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All the blogging I've seen on this story has been presented as "here's what we know," followed by "here's some speculation on what we know."

I've seen no indication that people are asserting as fact what can only be guessed at. But like any opinion page in any MSM newspaper, bloggers are free to express...ta da!...opinions. Readers are free to (a)read and pass on to something else,(b)ignore the topic because they're tired of it,(c)stop and comment, or(d)start their own blog and get in on the subject...and then there's always the old-fashioned option of discussions around the water cooler.

What inevitably rachets up the public's curiosity in any strange story is lame statemeents by the authorities as they deploy desperate CYA options. When you combine that with interesting circumstances and a post 9/11 world, you've got a radioactive story. That's when DENIAL sets in. Denial is used by those with a vested interest that the "truth" be something palatable with their version of reality.

One blogger I read just *knew* the guy couldn't possibly be a terrorist bomber because he was a member of this man's fraternity and his fraternity brothers would never do such a thing. Now there's some head-banging denial for you...instead of the picture of a bearded Mr. Hinrichs that has been posted everywhere, he managed to dig up a photo of the boy before he grew the beard -- by going with that picture and never referring to the more widely-distributed bearded Hinrichs, it was as though we were being presented with a different person from the one with the beard. It was surreal, to say the least.

The truth will out one way or another, it's just that it may take awhile. Sometimes follow-up can be hard to find... for example, I'm still looking for further info on the Colorado story about the Saudi couple arrested by the feds for keeping their maid as a slave...hard to find any further info beyond the original "scandalous" headline. And the searches into the Saudi political connections in this country are time-consuming and tedious.

Academic institutions are infamous for their CYA skill -- or lack of it. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Meanwhile, when you consider the number of suicides that happen every year at college, see if you can dredge up another one up that chose to go this way...if suicide was the only motive why blow yourself up with a bomb containing shrapnel????

Now there's a common sense, practical question and it deserves an answer. Since we don't really have one, we try to play what the lawyers call "the reasonable man" and speculate from that point of view. This does not mean being a "hack" anything; it is merely asking questions about a serious, dangerous incident.

If I were the parent of a kid at that school, I'd either be finding another school to transfer to or he'd be coming home for some R&R or I'd be on that campus demanding answers. And that podunk school paper be damned.

Too many univesities act like they're doing you, the parent, a favor to take your money. To hell with that. First bomb that goes off at my kid's college and he's outta there and we're in court looking for refunds. I don't believe in litigation, but I believe even less in what colleges have turned into. Before we get rid of the lawyers, college administrations need to go.

All that said, I feel damn sorry for his family.

Posted by: Dymphna at October 10, 2005 03:43 PM

16 As an OU graduate who frequently reads the Oklahoma Daily, I can say that your critique of it is quite good. They occasionally show a hint of independence from "boss" Boren, but usually have been his obedient propaganda lapdog. I would like to see a scan of the reported Justice Department order sealing the search warrant (or whatever it was). Although, unlike Boren, I make no claims of having the power to read Hinrichs' mind posthumously, the evidence strongly favors the suspicion that he had the intention of killing others with his bomb. See my URL link for more information. I think Boren's main motive is to keep revenues flowing in from football ticket sales. His 2002 stadium expansion project encumbered the athletic department with a $5 million annual debt service for 30 years.

Posted by: Michael Wright at October 10, 2005 03:58 PM

17 As an OU graduate who frequently reads the Oklahoma Daily, I can say that your critique of it is quite good. They occasionally show a hint of independence from "boss" Boren, but usually have been his obedient propaganda lapdogs. I would like to see a scan of the reported Justice Department order sealing the search warrant (or whatever it was). Although, unlike Boren, I make no claims of having the power to read Hinrichs' mind posthumously, the evidence strongly favors the suspicion that he had the intention of killing others with his bomb. See my URL link for more information. I think Boren's main motive is to keep revenues flowing in from football ticket sales. His 2002 stadium expansion project encumbered the athletic department with a $5 million annual debt service for 30 years.

Posted by: Michael Wright at October 10, 2005 04:03 PM

18 My question is when did Tom Hanks get off that island and decide to become a suicide bomber?

Posted by: Duane at October 10, 2005 05:59 PM

19 Come on Duane, has Mt. Saint Helens gotten to you or what? That should read, "When did Doogie Howser go back to colleg?"

Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at October 10, 2005 06:08 PM

20 Complicity…

If one stands back from the OU bombing, there were actually two crimes that happened. A bombing, and a cover up.

I don’t mean the “cover-up” of a terrorist act, I’m saying the mainstream media and in this case the OU newspaper have been criminal in their omissions of facts and evidence in this case. Omission is a form of lying.

Therefore my word to replace the word “hack” would be “accomplice”. With the passage of time, the crime of omission grows larger and much more dangerous than the bombing itself.

Posted by: MonkMojo at October 10, 2005 07:51 PM

21 "actus: There's a difference between "accident" and "suicide". Don't get silly on us."

I find it real hard to believe that no american has commited suicide with explosives. Wasn't the USS Iowa explosion ruled a suicide?

Posted by: actus at October 10, 2005 08:04 PM

22 "A first, we might add, since there is no record of an American killing himself by explosion."

Actually there was a yuppie who was drunk at a bar nd had sex outside the bar in an alley with an equally drunk woman who had been making out with him in the bar. Next day, she accused him of "date" rape. He committed suicide by placing an M-80 or similar large firecracker at the base of his skull.

Also note:
Suicide By Pipe Bomb: A Case Report.
American Journal of Forensic Medicine & Pathology. 20(2):136-140, June 1999.

Also note:
Institut fur Rechtsmedizin, Universitat des Saarlandes, which begins "Suicidal deaths caused by pipe bombs are rare." but then recounts one.

All that said, I agree that this case seems at least as likely to be due to conspiracy as to merely a suicide attempt.

Posted by: DWPittelli at October 10, 2005 08:41 PM

23 "A first, we might add, since there is no record of an American killing himself by explosion."

Perhaps in MSM world, but not according to the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology.

Posted by: Jeff Medcalf at October 10, 2005 09:28 PM

24 Dymphna says:
One blogger I read just *knew* the guy couldn't possibly be a terrorist bomber because he was a member of this man's fraternity and his fraternity brothers would never do such a thing. Now there's some head-banging denial for you...instead of the picture of a bearded Mr. Hinrichs that has been posted everywhere, he managed to dig up a photo of the boy before he grew the beard -- by going with that picture and never referring to the more widely-distributed bearded Hinrichs, it was as though we were being presented with a different person from the one with the beard. It was surreal, to say the least.
That would be me, I suppose. You neglected to mention that I noted that my case was inherently illogical. In point of fact, I used a deliberately illogical case specifically to point out how the illogic of the arguments for Joe being a suicide bomber. As to digging up the photo of Joe without the beard, it was the first picture of him that appeared at the Norman paper. Since the Chapter pulled its content offline and replaced it with a statement, I could not get at the latest Fraternity photos of Joe. I didn't refer to the other picture because I hadn't seen it, and I didn't post any pictures with the followup posts because they didn't seem that relevant to me: lots of people have beards without (gasp!) being Muslim terrorists.

While I'm willing to concede the possibility of Joe being a failed suicide bomber (there's that failure of the term again, since he succeeded at killing himself), there's equally valid reasons to believe that this was a complex suicide or even an accident. So perhaps my argument was surreal, but at least I started with the premise that the argument was illogical, rather than simply assuming whatever conspiracy theory I might be buying at the moment must simply be true.

Posted by: Jeff Medcalf at October 10, 2005 09:37 PM

25 Looking at the bearded photo shows that the guy was obviously "out there." Either that, or he was a big fan of Abraham Lincoln. Responsible journalism deals with facts. Fact, the guy looks like he would have loved to be packing an AK47 with John Philip Walker Lindh - remember him? Fact, your average non-terrorist American does not blow himself to pieces outside of a crowded football stadium with a homemade bomb. Fact, there was another explosive device that could have been detonated near departing fans. The guy may have been a victim of his own delusions - but what suicide bomber isn't? Whether he was "connected" or misguided doesn't change the terror his act has inspired.

Posted by: Michael West at October 11, 2005 04:18 AM

26 Back to the "word" you were looking for, how about co-conspirator?

Posted by: Jim at October 11, 2005 04:48 AM

27 "Responsible journalism deals with facts. Fact, the guy looks like he would have loved to be packing an AK47 with John Philip Walker Lindh"

Nominee for Great Moments in Wingut Bloggging.

Posted by: actus at October 11, 2005 06:47 AM

28 Thanks for reminding me where I'd read the fraternity brother connection. Would've linked to you if I'd remembered.

No one has jumped to conclusions on this so much as they have speculated...and with good reason. It's a bizzare case. To call it a "complex suicide" or an "accident" begs the question. Why was this "accident" sitting with all those unstable explosives in the first place? Is this suicide "complex" because of the shrapnel placed in the explosive material?

He was a failed homocide bomber based on the little we know. If we were permitted access to moer actual information we might change our assessment, but to date that's the best GUESS based on what we are permitted to know.

People are attributing Boren's behavior to concern for his sports' program. I have no idea if that is true, but it sure is in keeping with many college presidents' behavior. I've been in situations with academics who seem only to have CYA in their bag o' tricks when it comes to handling crises like this.

For me, personally, the worst was when the head of a medical school tried to intimidate me because one of *his* surgical residents had brutally abused/raped his wife and this very important person (or so he claimed)wanted the whole thing to go away so the man's career wouldn't be "ruined." --his word. Boren's self-serving statements sound just like that guy.

Eventually some investigative journalist will put the pieces together, but it won't happen for awhile yet. Not until the FBI loosens the wraps a bit. Meanwhile the rest of us will make reasonable assessments of what the kid looked like, what he was doing with explosives, the company he kept (his Paki roommate), and -- most important -- the particulars of his demise.

This country has been under attack from Islamists since Jimmy Carter. When people behave like this boy did, we want answers because we need to assess the danger to ourselves and our children. So we talk about it, trying to figure out if he was isolated or if he is part of a trend.

Not real far from where we live is an Islamist compound, full of disaffected black men and their families. For the most part they have been recruited from prisons. They live in isolation, permit only their boy children to go to school, and the local Social Services is scared witless to go in there and ask about the girls. After 9/11 they installed a guard house, the men stopped wearing Arab-style clothing in public -- though the women do not appear without their hijab -- and the locals avoid them. Especially since it's a branch of the group which killed Danny Pearl and is supposedly where the Beltway sniper went to ground for awhile.

These places exist in pockets all over the US. Just as we were blind to the Islamists outside our borders, we are blind to compounds like this. No one local talks about it -- and for darn sure no MSM journalist is going to risk the Danny Pearl route, thank you.

So if I'm paranoid about this guy, it doesn't mean my assessment is unfounded. "Complex suicide" indeed. Try running that term(as a description for this case)by a forensic psychiatrist and see what he says. I just did that and he asked me if I was crazy.

As I said, I feel sorry for his family...that boy went over some edge we don't even know about yet, but we damn sure better get more information on it.

Last year, one of my son's good friends at college committed suicide by blowing his head off. Exactly a month later, one of this boy's fraternity brothers did the same thing, the same way. Of course it was suspicious, and of course the parents are left wondering what in God's name was going on...there are still more questions than answers at this point. Some of the kids who found these guys have since dropped out, pretty traumatized. No doubt that will happen to a few at OU, too.

The "PC hacks" -- as the good doctor terms them --are not credible; we would be fools to back off just because they use ridicule in an attempt to make us do so. The first commenter on this post offered "useful idiots" as an explanation for their response. That's pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: dymphna at October 11, 2005 09:48 AM

29 How about fifth columnists?

Posted by: Thralan at October 11, 2005 11:51 AM

30 You are missing the point, I think...

They call the people who question what happened here liars because they are obviously on the side of people who want to destroy this "racist, oppressive" country.

You only need to look at some of the garbage that is shoveled out in any English department to find this out.

Posted by: benrand at October 11, 2005 01:28 PM

31 Don't want to be in the conspiracy business here...but the holder of the information on all this is the FBI. More than not, the FBI was supposedly in the know about Hinrichs from his attempt at purchasing the ammonium nitrate. I'm supposin' they would have been following Hinrichs, checking his activities, watching his movements, who he mingled with, no? Where was the FBI when Hinrichs was out sachaying with bombs strapped to his body? Coverup, methinks.

Posted by: Dave at October 11, 2005 02:48 PM

32 These journalists are urinalists, as Rush Limbaugh would say, as in Milwaukee Urinal rather than Milwaukee Journal.

Posted by: Mark James at October 11, 2005 03:46 PM

33 Dymphna, Jeff and Actus,
As far as that bearded photo goes, let me just point out that a) this is a super cropped photo of Joel and what appears to be his family and b) the folks at the Oklahoman don't know when the photo was taken (but the difference in what his dad looks like now and then is pretty evident).
Another photo of Joel with a beard IS over a year old and a staffer at The Oklahoman told me that Joel was clean shaven for at least a few months.
http://kenwheaton.blogspot.com/2005/10/joel-hinrichs-speculation-game.html

You don't need a beard to blow shit up or to be an Islamic terrorist, but that photo is not evidence for the case that he was a recent convert to Islam or insane (well, not any more than the fact that he wore a green vest to class every day).

Posted by: ken at October 11, 2005 04:14 PM

34 While the photo does make him look Amish, unmarried Amish men go beardless. The beard is reserved for married men. Unmarried Muslim men, on the other hand, ......

Posted by: LenS at October 11, 2005 06:10 PM

35 Do you need a connection to a larger group to be a terrorist?
FBI Director Mueller said the thing that keeps him awake nights is the lone wolf. Having no connections, he's extremely difficult to find.
Is it possible to do a lone wolf mass murder and still be a terrorist?

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at October 11, 2005 08:32 PM

36 The word is "QUISLING".The American College Dictionary has the following definition; Quisling: a person who undermines his country from within; a fifth columnist.(from Vidkun quisling,1887-1945,pro-Nazi leader in Norway)
Not only does this word have a diminutive tone to it, it is also fun to say.

Posted by: gerald wilson at October 12, 2005 01:04 AM

37 Why would I find it so hard to believe that a college newspaper would withhold facts after the garbage the White House suckups in the MSM fed us about 9/11?

Posted by: Jane at October 12, 2005 02:34 AM

38 Um, if there is a sealed indictment, and there are Islamic terrorist links here, don't you think that it would be best not to release any information that might compromise the investigation, arrest or prosecution of anyone else involved? Just asking. Bare minimum, Islam or not, they have to make sure that this terrorist didn't have a Terry Nichols helping him.

Posted by: Rob W at October 12, 2005 11:53 AM

39 Most deaths in the US and much of the world are identified and tracked by a code. The code for "intentional self harm (suicide) by explosive material" is "X75.0". There are actually sub-codes like "X75.1" through "X75.9" to indicate if the death was at home, at a workplace, or someplace else. Although I have found "X75.0" referenced in many places, I haven't been able to find a place to enter the code and get a result in terms of how often a death has been attributed to "X75.0".

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