Sunday Overnight Open Thread (2/16/20)

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The Quotes Of The Day


Quote I

"Last night on CNN, Bernie Sanders called me a political hack. “That’s exactly who the f--- I am! I am a political hack! I am not an ideologue. I am not a purist. He thinks it’s a pejorative. I kind of like it! At least I’m not a communist.” James Carville


Yet the dumb SOB will vote for him. F*ck off Serpent Head.

Quote II

There are accidental vegetarians in every country, but an abundance of food is required to convince people to go vegan. It is a status symbol for people who already enjoy status. Anyone with a bit of luck and ambition can win the rat race. It takes a special kind of hunger to win the rat race and then turn one’s nose up at cheese. Bill McMorris


Quote III

"Kansas City families can rest a little easier knowing that a company responsible for facilitating years of illegal trafficking of guns is no longer operating," "When firearm companies repeatedly ignore the law and facilitate gun trafficking they bring these sort of consequences on themselves." Alla Lefkowitz, an attorney


Death by a thousand cuts.


Quote IV

Well, Bloomberg must be the front-runner because liberals are calling him a racist,"

"Keep booing. That’s how you lost the last election," Bill Maher


Quote V

“Our family’s hope is that her death was not in vain, and that preventative measures are put into place to ensure that nothing like this ever happens to anyone ever again. The tragedy in all of this is that is could have been avoided had there been no sanctuary law. The tragedy is my grandmother is never going to be here again.” Daria Ortiz


Quote VI

“NASCAR fans never forget that no matter who wins the race, what matters most is God, family, country,POTUS Donald J. Trump

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Somedays I wish I was back on Twitter. I would love to rub their noses in this shit.


Lawrence O'Donnell is such a douche.


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The things one learns while perusing through the news for ONT content. Huh, I didn't know that.

As America's craft beer industry continues to boom, the waste it generates can pose challenges for sewer systems. But if it's used in the right spot, in the right amount, it's potentially beneficial and can actually save wastewater treatment plants money.

In Bozeman, Mont., the Water Reclamation Facility treats more than 6 million gallons of water every day from sinks, showers, toilets — really anything that goes down a drain. That includes liquid waste from more than 10 breweries in this city of nearly 50,000.

Because it's rich in yeast, hops and sugar, brewery waste can throw off the microbes that wastewater treatment plants rely on to remove nitrogen and phosphorus. The two nutrients can cause algae blooms in rivers and kill off fish.

"But if we can use [brewery waste] correctly and put it in the right spot, it's very beneficial to the process," engineering consultant Coralynn Revis says.


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You think that a luxury vehicle, could hold its engine. Think again.

Leading police on a high-speed pursuit through a residential neighborhood is, by all accounts, not advised. They're almost definitely going to catch up, and you put everyone around you at risk of injury or death if you decide to high-step away from Johnny Law—doubly so if you're under the influence. One Jaguar XE driver found this out first-hand near Baton Rouge, Louisiana when they ran into a ditch, ejecting them out of the vehicle and unbelievably sending the car's engine flying through the front door of a nearby apartment.

Engine 913 of the East Side Fire Department rushed to the scene after receiving a call from law enforcement, only to find what was left of the runaway Jag. The British sedan struck a series of trees before coming to a rest in the ditch, which is reportedly what sent the driver—and the four-cylinder—flying. Emergency services rushed the perp to hospital in critical condition.


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The latest from Paul Joseph Watson..............NSFW-Language


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Richard Nunez of Austin Texas, is a party animal. Wow.

AUSTIN, Texas - Police have arrested and charged a man with a DWI after he failed multiple sobriety tests, according to court documents.

Around 9 p.m. on January 11, police responded to a welfare check on a suspect vehicle that was reported to be driving erratically at the 2000 block of Manor Road.

According to court documents, officers searched Nunez's vehicle and found a wet cigarette with a strong chemical odor. Police determined that the suspect was under the influence of a "Dissociative Anesthetic" and could not operate a vehicle safely.

Nunez later admitted in jail that he had used a cigarette to smoke embalming fluid. The cigarette was submitted for lab testing and came back positive for Phencyclidine.

Nunez was also charged with Possession of a Controlled Substance.


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Nice. There are comedians coming up who aren't Woke and PC.


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Shocked. Shocked I say. Dirty politics in San Francisco, say it isn't so.

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The industrial war complex is composed of folks from the left and right. Instead of promoting wars in Syria, our national defense involving Ukraine, NATO duties, take care of our veterans who are here! Now!

Veteran: The US Military has been involved in a number of actions over the years, none so controversial, or as long lasting as the Vietnam War, which began in 1955 and rumbled on for twenty years until 1975.

During that time more than 58,000 American service personnel gave their lives in service to their country.

It is a big number, but it has come to light following a report by the US Dept of Veteran Affairs that, between 2008 and 2017, more than 60,000 American military veterans took their own lives.


60,000 was the population of the town I grew up in as a child. Shocking.


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Dusty Baker of The Houston Astros.


The Houston Astros cheating scandal is the story that keeps on giving. Following a week where the team issued what were widely deemed as insufficient apologies for their sign-stealing scheme during their run to the 2017 World Series title, new manager Dusty Baker has issued a plea to Major League Baseball. Simply put, he wants the league to protect his players from potential retaliation from pitchers who believe the Astros have not shown enough remorse for their misdeeds.

Speaking to reporters on Saturday at Houston’s camp in West Palm Beach, Baker admonished the seemingly “premeditated” nature of threats from players around the league to get one back on the Astros during games:


Put on your big boy pants and STFU.

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The ONT Musical Interlude


Jeff Buckley Grace (1994)

His musician-father Tim Buckley died at the height of his fame from an alcohol/heroin overdose. Jeff, apparently straight for most of his early career, was drinking and getting high regularly during the recording of this grittily opulent album, his second. Buckley’s multi-octave voice and tortured delivery sound like a mix between Robert Plant and Anthony and the Johnsons in a hot tub full of tequila. Buckley drowned after jumping into the Wolf River for a swim fully clothed and wearing work boots. There is much speculation as to whether it was intentional or not, but the beauty of these songs is unquestioned. Via rate yourmusic.com


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What can I say? I'm a Ronson fan.

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Piss on it takes on a whole new meaning. Genius Award Winner.

Meet David Marcel-Lewis Johnson.

The 26-year-old Michigan resident was arrested early Friday after relieving himself on the bumper of a marked police car, according to Florida cops who captured him mid-stream.

Police say that Johnson was in downtown St. Petersburg around 1 AM when he was observed “approaching a sergeant’s police vehicle.” He then “removed his penis from the front of his pants, and urinated on the rear bumper of the vehicle.

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Five year old Noah Woods has grit. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

Noah Woods woke up to find his bedroom on fire, but he didn't panic.

He jumped out of bed, grabbed his 2-year-old sister and got out of the house through his bedroom window.

But Noah didn't stop there.

He went back in to get the family dog and pulled it to safety. Then he ran next door and woke up his uncle to alert the rest of the family.

"We've seen children alert their families before," Bartow County Fire Department Chief Dwayne Jamison told CNN. "But for a 5-year-old to be alert enough to do this ... that's pretty extraordinary."

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Comments

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1 Ahoy!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

2 St

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 10:00 PM (EQRLd)

3 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (JFzNN)

4 I'm feeling gray.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (Y4EXg)

5 Ahoy, ſodomites and ſodomettes!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (7WaWV)

6 Haze grey and underway!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:03 PM (Dc2NZ)

7 But I got better!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 10:03 PM (Y4EXg)

8 Top Ten! And Top Men!

Posted by: GuyFromNH at February 16, 2020 10:03 PM (Gs5TH)

9 Aw, I liked the grey on grey action! Like a Dem primary.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:04 PM (Dc2NZ)

10 7 But I got better!
glad you're feeling better

Posted by: wing at February 16, 2020 10:04 PM (JFzNN)

11 4 I'm feeling gray.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (Y4EXg)

Aren't you special?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:05 PM (aA3+G)

12 That truck. How gauche.

Posted by: Rick Wilson, Conserver of Conservatism at February 16, 2020 10:05 PM (XVuno)

13 Note that in the item about Richard Nunez, the "Manor" in "Manor Road" is pronounced like MAY-nur

Posted by: Cybersmythe at February 16, 2020 10:06 PM (edlKR)

14 One Jaguar XE driver found this out first-hand near Baton Rouge, Louisiana when they ran into a ditch, ejecting them out of the vehicle and unbelievably sending the car's engine flying through the front door of a nearby apartment.

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Tata, little motor!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:07 PM (XVuno)

15 I can spot 6 American snipers in tonights ONT picture.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 16, 2020 10:07 PM (qu1px)

16 Holy ONT, MisHum!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (TdMsT)

17 "Ahoy, fodomites and fodomettes!"

I hear this in a Boris Karloff voice.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (COzlW)

18 Great photo up top, Mis Hum!

God Bless Donald J. Trump! Smashing appearance at Daytona today.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (WFcrO)

19 Evening Ladyl

Posted by: wing at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (JFzNN)

20 sending the car's engine flying through the front door of a nearby apartment.

Did the apartment residents freak out or go, "Woohoo, free engine!"?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - forgetting to remove my socks. at February 16, 2020 10:10 PM (SchxB)

21 16 Holy ONT, MisHum!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (TdMsT)

I take it, that is a good thing?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:10 PM (aA3+G)

22 Good evening, Wing!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:10 PM (TdMsT)

23 18 Great photo up top, Mis Hum!

God Bless Donald J. Trump! Smashing appearance at Daytona today.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (WFcrO

Thanks.
I had that photo picked long before I heard PDT was going to the races. Sometimes I'm lucky that way.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:11 PM (aA3+G)

24 Fun Fact: Indian car companies fashion engine mounts out of hummus.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:11 PM (XVuno)

25 The Daytona 500 will hopefully be completed tomorrow afternoon at 4pm on Fox. Bummer about all the rain today. They had a sold out crowd.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:11 PM (0zDoP)

26 BREAKING: Durham and his team have not interviewed McCabe. At all. Concerning anything. Not #Spygate espionage. Not illegal FISA warrants. Not Flynn 302 doctoring. Not leaking and lying.

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/
1229128702103097346

I'm so Blackpilled at this point, I believe this is all theater and *types deletes*

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 16, 2020 10:12 PM (2Qk5a)

27 21 16 Holy ONT, MisHum!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (TdMsT)

I take it, that is a good thing?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:10 PM (aA3+G)



Very! It's going to take some time to get through all the lovely links.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

28 Howdy all. I've been watching the History Channel and this is intriguing, the series is the foods that built America. Having worked in the restaurant business for many years in my younger days it's it's very revealing I'd recommend it highly.

Posted by: Farmer at February 16, 2020 10:14 PM (K1VGd)

29 Is this the group for the Gray Line tour?

Posted by: Miklos, not from around here at February 16, 2020 10:15 PM (QzkSJ)

30 The Gray Lady is mighty sniffy about Trump's appearance at Daytona: https://tinyurl.com/s7n2ph8

HT:Insty (link goes to WIBC mobile news)

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:16 PM (pPNCa)

31 "Ahoy, fodomites and fodomettes!"

I hear this in a Boris Karloff voice.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM



Long eſs privilege... I haz it!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:16 PM (7WaWV)

32 If you are going to have the continue reading feature with links inside it to other web sites, the links need to open new tabs. Otherwise returning to the site takes you further down the old web page and not back to the continue reading feature.

Learn to code, hole.

Posted by: David Miller at February 16, 2020 10:17 PM (gBvsd)

33 Top pic, the batteries in that truck are on fire!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 10:18 PM (HTHlp)

34 NASCAR fans never forget that no matter who wins the race, what matters most is God, family, country,

POTUS Donald J. Trump

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That's hate speech!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:18 PM (+y/Ru)

35 Now, now, now... you boys!

You can't be flying flags on your trucks here at school!

Flags on trucks are too triggering.

No more flags on trucks.

No more flags on trucks!

Posted by: Principal Weatherbee at February 16, 2020 10:19 PM (7OF+y)

36 33 Top pic, the batteries in that truck are on fire!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 10:18 PM (HTHlp)

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Should we call someone?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:19 PM (XVuno)

37 The Jaguar wreck story shows a photo of an air conditioning compressor, and calls it a "condenser". Top. Men.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:19 PM (LxWV7)

38 Top pic, the batteries in that truck are on fire!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 10:18 PM



Not dead! He's "rollin' cathodes", idiot...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:19 PM (7WaWV)

39 Posted by: David Miller at February 16, 2020 10:17 PM (gBvsd)



Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:20 PM (aA3+G)

40 4 I'm feeling gray.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (Y4EXg)

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Watch the hands, buddy!

Posted by: Gray at February 16, 2020 10:20 PM (CAJOC)

41 Titiana McGrath is the twitter persona invented and written by Andrew Doyle.
Titiana is an intersectional feminist and a Slam poet and sees her oppression everywhere.

She was featured in an article by Quillette before Doyle was doxxed, where she spoke about her temporary suspension from Twitter as her "Nelson Mandela moment" and has spent the last couple of years being the most egregious social justice warrior without a clue.

her first book, Woke, has a chapter called "My Struggle"

The book (which I have never read) has a passage about how she was breastfed for the first 6 months of her life, and she felt this was abuse, as her mother should have known she was a vegan.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 10:20 PM (6rS3m)

42 The Gray Lady is mighty sniffy about Trump's appearance at Daytona

Because Obama never used his limo at political appearances.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 10:21 PM (I2/tG)

43 Also on twitchy.

https://tinyurl.com/qwr8fhh

Angry vegans, one of them topless, interrupted Bernie's rally today in Carson City, NV

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at February 16, 2020 10:21 PM (XzVUd)

44 Long ess privilege... I haz it!

So now do the German Eszett, also known as the scharfes s.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:21 PM (pPNCa)

45 Just dropping in to say I hope you all had a great weekend.

God bless you during the coming week...

Over and out. I'm tired, and going to bed.

Nice ONT, MisHum. Thank you.

Posted by: Flyover MAGA at February 16, 2020 10:21 PM (Rbu5d)

46 The book (which I have never read) has a passage about how she was breastfed for the first 6 months of her life, and she felt this was abuse, as her mother should have known she was a vegan.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 10:20 PM (6rS3m)
* * * *

No words.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 10:21 PM (WFcrO)

47 Learn to code, hole.

Posted by: David Miller at February 16, 2020 10:17 PM



Learn to middle click, my friend...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:22 PM (7WaWV)

48 David Miller,

You could just right click the link and open a separate page yourself. FYI.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:22 PM (0zDoP)

49 So now do the German Eszett, also known as the scharfes s.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:21 PM



é

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:22 PM (7WaWV)

50
I don't remember James Carnival being so profane.

Anyway, prepare yourselves for the upcoming "Sanders Is Really A Centrist" fake journalism.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 16, 2020 10:23 PM (3rEjV)

51 Oopsie...


ß !

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:23 PM (7WaWV)

52 Fun Fact: Indian car companies fashion engine mounts out of hummus.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:11 PM (XVuno)

Judging by the photo, the bellhousing fractured at each of the bellhousing-to-engine block bolts, thus freeing the engine to go rolling away. I doubt it "flew" through the door, most likely rolled, shedding pieces as it went.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:23 PM (LxWV7)

53 Top fiddy

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 10:23 PM (a4ua0)

54 Good evening, Morons and 'Ettes!

I missed a couple if news stories a few days ago, and it something that makes me *furious.* I think that Trump needs to seriously reconsider the "Phase 1" China Trade Deal. Like "tear it up, throw it in the bin, and embargo China" reconsider it.

First up: Equifax. The Equifax breach, which you may remember involved disclosure of nearly *half* of Americans' SSN and financial records. Well, the DoJ (yes, grain of salt on that front) has identified four major Chinese players involved and has (or will) filed charges against them. They're officers in the Chinese military. No joke. Official damn state/military action from China, involving massive data dumps.

Next up: Huawei. They reportedly have the ability (and have for years, and have used it) to use those LEO interfaces to snoop on data, location, etc. at their arbitrary will. Interfaces that shouldn't even exist for *our* government and Huawei - which is essentially an arm of the CCP - uses them at will.

Tear it up and embargo them until they clean up their act and prove it. It will hurt. A lot. It will be borderline catastrophic for us, and state-ending for them (with G-d knows what desperate external actions they will take), but enough is enough. Bankrupt and starve them. No more trade. No more visas. Deport any non-citizen Chinese national. This has gone more than far enough to justify taking the gloves off.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (IT/Xb)

55 it finally died. rip

Posted by: proof of spoof at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (B+t5k)

56 41:her first book, Woke, has a chapter called "My Struggle"


LOL!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (0zDoP)

57 Missed by that much. Read the content, rookie mistake.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (a4ua0)

58 Durham and his team have not interviewed McCabe. At all. Concerning anything.

I'm as cynical as the next person, but if you are a prosecutor planning on indicting someone, interviewing the target is the last thing you do, after you have put the rest of the case together.

Durham may well betray us, but his failure to interview McCabe yet isn't proof that Durham is taking a dive.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (I2/tG)

59 Jags only have four cylinders now? Sad.

Posted by: davidt at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (l3+k2)

60 MH......have I done something to upset you?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (/UQ/R)

61 watching the rush documentary.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (KP5rU)

62
The way fake journalists will explain bernie sanders' centrism is say since most people agree with sanders, especially young people, he's mainstream, therefore not a radical. Indeed, they'll say opposing bernie sanders is the radical position.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 16, 2020 10:25 PM (3rEjV)

63 Learn to code, hole.
Posted by: David Miller at February 16, 2020 10:17 PM (gBvsd)

Wassamatta you? The Hot Air key broken on your laptop?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:25 PM (LxWV7)

64 42 The Gray Lady is mighty sniffy about Trump's appearance at Daytona

Because Obama never used his limo at political appearances.
Posted by: The ARC of History!



Hmm, I seem to recall him tying up downtown DC traffic so he could get a cheeseburger. Several times.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:25 PM (0zDoP)

65 Because Obama never used his limo at political appearances.

Yeah, there's the time his limo got stuck on the ramp of the Dublin embassy: https://tinyurl.com/t8bgu2e

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (pPNCa)

66 My wife`s bulls demand a pay raise, can you blame them?

Posted by: Miklos,a regular no life loser at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (lbTXw)

67 you are going to have the continue reading feature with links inside it to other web sites, the links need to open new tabs. Otherwise returning to the site takes you further down the old web page and not back to the continue reading feature.

Learn to code, hole.
Posted by: David Miller at February 16, 2020 10:17 PM (gBvsd)


LOLGFY

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 10:27 PM (a4ua0)

68 Angry vegans, one of them topless, interrupted Bernie's rally today in Carson City, NV

Two of the protestors were topless. By leftist standards, they weren't bad - not like the overweight green-hair beasts that usually do this sort of thing at leftist demonstrations.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 10:27 PM (I2/tG)

69 I violated the ſacred rule about reposting troll comments...



Sorry, MisHum, sir! Please don't ban me!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:27 PM (7WaWV)

70 Angry vegans, one of them topless, interrupted Bernie's rally today in Carson City, NV

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Protesting the dairy industry! Cows have tits too!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:27 PM (+y/Ru)

71 60 MH......have I done something to upset you?
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (/UQ/R)

Nope not at all.
Your MoMe info will go up. Swearsies.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:28 PM (aA3+G)

72 49

Trying to start the Franco-Prussian War 2.0, are you?

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:28 PM (pPNCa)

73 {{{WDS}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:28 PM (TdMsT)

74 her first book, Woke, has a chapter called "My Struggle"

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Next book: Final Solution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:29 PM (+y/Ru)

75 Yeah, there's the time his limo got stuck on the ramp of the Dublin embassy: https://tinyurl.com/t8bgu2e
Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (pPNCa)

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That's nothing compared to how an umbrella can bring all forward progress to a halt.

Posted by: Prez'nit Shitnozzle at February 16, 2020 10:29 PM (XVuno)

76 Trying to start the Franco-Prussian War 2.0, are you?
Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:28 PM (pPNCa)
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Hmmm. Interesting thought.

They both such pretty hugely now and have sclerotic, decaying militaries. I have no idea who would win this time around. I am torn between "flip a coin" and just calling it for the French.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (IT/Xb)

77 Hey everybody.

I announced this in yesterday's film thread, but no one responded, so I'll try again tonight.

I got the 4k of Ex Machina, so I'm giving away my original blu-ray/DVD combo of it. First person who emails me gets it. QDPSJL at the gmail thingy. Good luck all.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (L2ZTs)

78 Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:27 PM (7WaWV)

No worries my friend.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

79 cada chango con su jegete

Posted by: proof of spoof at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (B+t5k)

80 Jags only have four cylinders now? Sad.
Posted by: davidt at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (l3+k2)

Indeed. It is travesty, within a scandal, within a tragedy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (LxWV7)

81 Howdy, ONT-type people!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:31 PM (NWiLs)

82 Hi everyone. Hope you're having a good Sunday evening, and for those of you who are govt employees (including me), enjoy the holiday.

I think I've figured out how things work.

Friend, good friend, even best friend comes to you with a problem they have. You do your best to help them with this problem, You find solutions, look up solutions, and generally give them the help they need to solve their problem. And, viola, the problem ends up getting solved with your help.

If you have a problem, on the other hand, this is dismissed or ignored. And you're left alone to deal with this problem.

Please let me say this: their problems were definitely something, and they're thankful you helped them, and they remain friends. But--

In less depressing news, I've done a lot of animation work for the next project which, amazingly enough, has no inexplicable aliens doing incomprehensible things. It should be enjoyed by all.

(I have NO idea how to continue "Instruction." I'm sure I will at some point, but right now...}

PS: Sorry for the depressing rant, please ignore me. It's the safest path.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 16, 2020 10:31 PM (l9m7l)

83 I got the 4k of Ex Machina, so I'm giving away my original blu-ray/DVD combo of it. First person who emails me gets it. QDPSJL at the gmail thingy. Good luck all.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (L2ZTs)

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Your brazen offer violates about six federal laws.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:31 PM (XVuno)

84 Thank you MH!

{{{{{Ladyl}}}}} Did you have a nice dinner? Yes, sometimes I lurk when I don't feel I have anything important to say

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 10:31 PM (/UQ/R)

85 she was breastfed for the first 6 months of her life, and she felt this was abuse, as her mother should have known she was a vegan.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 10:20 PM (6rS3m)


Couldn't understand her. Guess not speaking a foreign language has its benefits.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (Hg4NE)

86 Well now that is a new silly little bitch whine I've never heard before. Complaining about the how the "continue reading" click functions? Really?

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (Z7lwY)

87 Two of the protestors were topless. By leftist standards, they weren't bad - not like the overweight green-hair beasts that usually do this sort of thing at leftist demonstrations.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 10:27 PM (I2/tG)

The video was really lousy, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (LxWV7)

88 83 I got the 4k of Ex Machina, so I'm giving away my original blu-ray/DVD combo of it. First person who emails me gets it. QDPSJL at the gmail thingy. Good luck all.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:30 PM (L2ZTs)

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Your brazen offer violates about six federal laws.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:31 PM (XVuno)

And several ONT rules to boot.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (aA3+G)

89 Cicero, not if I give it away ;-)

Also, I'm thinking I may have to quit my job. I found out this weekend that one of the things my boss is making me do, is against California law, and I guarantee that when I tell him that, his response will be "I don't fcuking care."

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (L2ZTs)

90 MisHum, ha ha.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (L2ZTs)

91 Four cylinders fly too far, sports cars should have 12 cylinders

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (B7KlG)

92 Jags only have four cylinders now? Sad.

Posted by: davidt at February 16, 2020 10:24 PM (l3+k2)




They do seem to make a good crack house breaching weapon. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (9Om/r)

93 And I forgot in my rage regarding Red China. Thanks for the lovely ONT, MisHum!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (IT/Xb)

94 insomniac!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (KP5rU)

95 Next up: Huawei.

-
https://bit.ly/2SAJppc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (+y/Ru)

96 Also, I'm thinking I may have to quit my job. I found out this weekend that one of the things my boss is making me do, is against California law,

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This doesn't involve distributing plastic drinking straws, does it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (XVuno)

97 83:Your brazen offer violates about six federal laws.


To be fair, that is a pretty low bar to reach these days.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:34 PM (0zDoP)

98 89 Cicero, not if I give it away ;-)

Also, I'm thinking I may have to quit my job. I found out this weekend that one of the things my boss is making me do, is against California law, and I guarantee that when I tell him that, his response will be "I don't fcuking care."
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (L2ZTs)

Isn't working against CA law?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:34 PM (NWiLs)

99 Indeed, they'll say opposing bernie sanders is the radical position.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 16, 2020 10:25 PM (3rEjV)


Commies always think those opposing them and their policies are radical. Wreakers, even.

Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 10:34 PM (Y8PSl)

100 Chavez!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:34 PM (NWiLs)

101 This doesn't involve distributing plastic drinking straws, does it?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (XVuno)


Worse. Plastic video discs.

Posted by: davidt at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (l3+k2)

102 I for one laughed at Titania McGrath.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (Uu+Jp)

103 Isn't working against CA law?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:34 PM (NWiLs)

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Use an Uber, go to jail.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (XVuno)

104 Cicero, no.
He's forcing me to keep contacting the woman at my job who complained about me.

I found out that all it takes is for this woman to get pissed off and contact a lawyer, and I'll get in trouble for contacting her while my boss, who forced me to do so, will lie his head off and say "I certainly never said he had to do that!"

I'm not gonna lose all my stuff over the asshole I work for.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (L2ZTs)

105 Gun company should sue KC for racial bias, keeping poor minorities from owning firearms.

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (B7KlG)

106 omg they created a real Titania McGrath !

hilarious

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (G546f)

107 Insom, no, just keeping your money.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (L2ZTs)

108 The secret code in American money.

https://bit.ly/2wggv4K

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (+y/Ru)

109 Well now that is a new silly little bitch whine I've never heard before. Complaining about the how the "continue reading" click functions? Really?
Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 10:32 PM (Z7lwY)
+++++++++++++
Yeah, it's a reach. Especially because there are *three* ways to avoid this:
1) Right-click then "Open in new tab" (my least favorite)
B) CTRL+click the link
iii) If on a desktop, click the link with the scroll-wheel button

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:36 PM (IT/Xb)

110 Oh wait. Working isn't illegal, but it's been found to cause cancer by the state of California. My mistake.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:36 PM (NWiLs)

111 110: California should make cancer illegal then. That will show cancer who's boss!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:37 PM (0zDoP)

112
Oh wait. Working isn't illegal, but it's been found to cause cancer by the state of California. My mistake.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:36 PM (NWiLs)


For a state that has so many frigging things that cause cancer they're still around to piss off the rest of the country. 1000 years ago mankind would have wiped them off the map.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 10:38 PM (9Om/r)

113 well I guess you wont be getting cancer then.

Posted by: proof of spoof at February 16, 2020 10:38 PM (B+t5k)

114 104 Cicero, no.
He's forcing me to keep contacting the woman at my job who complained about me.

I found out that all it takes is for this woman to get pissed off and contact a lawyer, and I'll get in trouble for contacting her while my boss, who forced me to do so, will lie his head off and say "I certainly never said he had to do that!"

I'm not gonna lose all my stuff over the asshole I work for.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (L2ZTs)



Dude email. Generate a paper trail and print it out.

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 10:38 PM (Z7lwY)

115 buzzion, that's what I'm gonna start doing. Thanks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:38 PM (L2ZTs)

116 @58

Durham is Barr's McGuffin as Huber was Sessions McGuffin.


Or alternatively..


This is what a multi-act production of The Aristocrats looks like as preformed by Deep State button men.

Posted by: John Thornton at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (/whCp)

117 Also, I'm thinking I may have to quit my job. I found out this weekend that one of the things my boss is making me do, is against California law,

You're refusing to sleep with a tranny?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (2DOZq)

118 Cows have tits too!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

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More precisely, udders. Totally on topic - a dear friend of mine is massively blessed. Naturally, she has worked for the American Dairy Association for years.

The coincidence is not lost on her.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (Y4EXg)

119 85 she was breastfed for the first 6 months of her life, and she felt this was abuse, as her mother should have known she was a vegan.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 10:20 PM (6rS3m

Mom should sue the kid for sexual assault.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (Vy7tf)

120 Sebastian, I'm sure it's just a matter of time

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (L2ZTs)

121 Oh wait. Working isn't illegal, but it's been found to cause cancer by the state of California. My mistake.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:36 PM (NWiLs)
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It would be hilarious to see Prop 65 warnings on job descriptions. In fact, if I were independently wealthy and in CA, I might do this as a nuisance lawsuit just to sow discord.

All workplaces are potentially cancer-causing and placarded under Prop 65 (every building in my company's CA headquarters campus has them sprinkled throughout). If I do not see a placard when going for an interview (which is likely) and then get a job, I would strongly consider launching a Prop 65 suit because they didn't inform me up front in the job posting that the workplace could cause cancer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (IT/Xb)

122 I have no idea who would win this time around. I am torn between "flip a coin" and just calling it for the French.

The French army is larger than the German at this point (117,000 active soldiers, 15,750 reservists for the French vs. 63,555 soldiers for the German). Advantage France, I'd think.

Then there is the Franco-German Brigade (Brigade Franco-Allemande; Deutsche-Franzoesische Brigade), which consists of about 2,000 soldiers from each country. It has the reputation of being the only military unit in the EU that is aggressive and rude at the same time.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:39 PM (pPNCa)

123 88;83

RE: "Ex Machina 4k Blu-Ray," etc.

These posts might as well be in Urdu or Tagalog-- I wouldn't understand them any less.

Posted by: mnw at February 16, 2020 10:40 PM (Cssks)

124 mnw, you don't know your 4ks & DVDs from your BDs from your VHS from your Beta?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:41 PM (L2ZTs)

125 These posts might as well be in Urdu or Tagalog-- I wouldn't understand them any less.
Posted by: mnw at February 16, 2020 10:40 PM (Cssks)
+++++++++
What do girl scout cookies have to do with this?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:41 PM (IT/Xb)

126 how about your LPs from your CDs from your DATs from your SACDs?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:41 PM (L2ZTs)

127 111 110: California should make cancer illegal then. That will show cancer who's boss!
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:37 PM (0zDoP)

Making cancer illegal has been found to cause cancer by the state of California.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (NWiLs)

128 Elton John is a fag

Posted by: monkey at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (CLteG)

129 mnw, you don't know your 4ks & DVDs from your BDs from your VHS from your Beta?
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:41 PM (L2ZTs)

What difference does it make? Nothing but shit, on them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (LxWV7)

130 These posts might as well be in Urdu or Tagalog-- I wouldn't understand them any less.
Posted by: mnw at February 16, 2020 10:40 PM (Cssks)

Uber reltney skwerl tits! Noam Sayin, eh wot?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (x8Wzq)

131

California has outlawed the sale and purchase of ionizer air filters.

Half the shit on ebay and amazon can't be purchased by CA residents, and everything has a "prop 65 warning" on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (3rEjV)

132 I also used to have some CD3s.

Still have one, as a matter of fact.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (L2ZTs)

133 I found out that all it takes is for this woman to get pissed off and contact a lawyer, and I'll get in trouble for contacting her while my boss, who forced me to do so, will lie his head off and say "I certainly never said he had to do that!"

I'm not gonna lose all my stuff over the asshole I work for.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February



You know how you have been quitting, he is trying to get rid of you now.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (HALdu)

134 127 111 110: California should make cancer illegal then. That will show cancer who's boss!
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 10:37 PM (0zDoP


Within days there would be a sanctuary city for cancer.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (Vy7tf)

135 Massive content.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (2kj6M)

136 He's forcing me to keep contacting the woman at my job who complained about me.

Get it in writing, or email. Talk to landshark and drop a hostile work environment complaint on his ass.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - forgetting to remove my socks. at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (SchxB)

137 132 I also used to have some CD3s.

Still have one, as a matter of fact.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (L2ZTs)

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ABBA, I'll bet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (XVuno)

138 not so, probably.

Oh: I also have some CD-Rs, DVD-Rs and BD-Rs.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (L2ZTs)

139 128 Elton John is a fag
Posted by: monkey at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (CLteG)

Pshaw! He's just a confirmed bachelor what luvs his mum.

You know, like Bob Liberace.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (x8Wzq)

140 A lot of craft beers are going for less that the alcoholic sparkling water that is so hot now. It is pretty amazing really. These craft guys pick the right malts, search out unusual and diverse hops, and even now age the stuff in whiskey barrels. But they have to charge less than guys who ferment pure sugar and the overall bouquet is "water"/

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (n13/j)

141 I saw "1917" last night.

Superb re-creation of time & place. Worth seeing for that. I thought it was a bit boring, however.

Posted by: mnw at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (Cssks)

142 Cicero, worse.
Springsteen. :-)

I used to have some by Beach Boys, the Who, Steppenwolf and Four Seasons.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (L2ZTs)

143

{{{{{Ladyl}}}}} Did you have a nice dinner? Yes, sometimes I lurk when I don't feel I have anything important to say
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 10:31 PM (/UQ/R)

Hi WDS!

Dinner was nothing particularly special, but the company was!

I hope you had a great weekend!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (TdMsT)

144 138 not so, probably.

Oh: I also have some CD-Rs, DVD-Rs and BD-Rs.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:43 PM (L2ZTs)

I have some BVDs.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (NWiLs)

145 Robyn Adele Anderson rockin' the denim...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/m47fjcl

Posted by: davidt at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (l3+k2)

146 California has outlawed the sale and purchase of ionizer air filters.

The point behind all these bans is to get you thinking like a serf, existing at the sufferance of the State, instead of a free citizen.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 10:45 PM (I2/tG)

147 Insom, those are good but tough to record with

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:45 PM (L2ZTs)

148 What kind of work qdpsteve?

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 10:45 PM (a4ua0)

149 C'mon. If McCabe was under any threat of jail time, and thus compromised, then McCabe would have died while making toast in his bathtub by now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (EQRLd)

150 Traveling Man, I'm working with a small newspaper publisher. I do inputting of legal ads and some other tasks.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (L2ZTs)

151

The U.S. Air Force has updated its dress code to allow hijabs, beards and turbans. The new guidelines make it easier for Muslim and Sikh personnel to seek religious waivers.

The change the Air Force made last week follows a similar policy the Army implemented.

The guidelines released Feb. 7 allow Muslim women to wear hijabs and Islamic head scarves. They also let Sikh men wear turbans and uncut hair, as well as allow religious or medical exemptions to grow beards up to 2 inches in length.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (aKsyK)

152 Ahhh feeling anxious about the stupid coronavirus again

I need a virtual, virus free hug

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (G546f)

153
One has to wonder why the MLB would want to damage their own brand like this.

I never figured out why the NFL thought it would be
good publicity to accuse the Patriots of cheating.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (3rEjV)

154 The point behind all these bans is to get you thinking like a serf, existing at the sufferance of the State, instead of a free citizen.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 10:45 PM (I2/tG)

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Prohibiting supposedly free citizens from working as any kind of free-lancer deserves torches and pitchforks. Our idiot legislature is turning CA into Venezuela.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (XVuno)

155 Grandpa was queer too!

Posted by: Miklos, a regular no life loser at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (adC0H)

156 145 Robyn Adele Anderson rockin' the denim...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/m47fjcl

Posted by: davidt at February 16, 2020 10:44 PM (l3+k2)



Postmodern Jukebox lost its soul when that dumbass broke up with her.

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (Z7lwY)

157 Cicero, I'm looking forward to when the courts slap CA down hard over that law.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (L2ZTs)

158 Judging by the photo, the bellhousing fractured at each of the bellhousing-to-engine block bolts, thus freeing the engine to go rolling away. I doubt it "flew" through the door, most likely rolled, shedding pieces as it went.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:23 PM (LxWV7)

Next month that engine's gonna be sold to someone by an auto body shop as "re-manufactured, barely been used."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (V2Yro)

159 140 A lot of craft beers are going for less that the alcoholic sparkling water that is so hot now.

Got into winemaking at home 7 or 8 years ago. From the best (A cherry wine from tart cherries that was like dunking your entire head into a bucket of fresh cherries) to the worst (Probably the dandelion that tasted 'ok' but smelled like bad eggs while it fermented.

All of it gets consumed.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (Vy7tf)

160 davidt, she's gettin' her Daisy Duke on

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:48 PM (L2ZTs)

161 The guidelines released Feb. 7 allow Muslim women to wear hijabs and Islamic head scarves. They also let Sikh men wear turbans and uncut hair, as well as allow religious or medical exemptions to grow beards up to 2 inches in length.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (aKsyK)
+++++++++++
I could see making an exception for Sikhs. Not the rest of them. But no. Because we're all so freaking #woke, can't do that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:48 PM (IT/Xb)

162 The Finns are odd

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=V65zvJHd120

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 10:48 PM (6rS3m)

163 RE: "Ex Machina 4k Blu-Ray," etc.

These posts might as well be in Urdu or Tagalog-- I wouldn't understand them any less.

Posted by: mnw at February 16, 2020 10:40 PM (Cssks)


Yeah, kids these days and their hipster language. I blame the teachers. Why not? I blame them for just about every fucking thing wrong today, including the idiots on the twitters who think when the House impeached Trump he was automatically not President anymore.

Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (Y8PSl)

164 Good evening MH and thanks for the ONT but I'm calling BS on the veterans committee suicide numbers. Being a veteran myself and engaging with fellow vets everyday I do not believe for one moment that this number is true in any way, shape, or form.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (+ldAm)

165 saw a comedy bit with the comedian saying that craft beers are so over...the next hot thing should be craft gasoline blends

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (G546f)

166 Oh boy!!

Lena Dunham makes runway debut at London Fashion Week

https://tinyurl.com/vfcseaw

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (L2ZTs)

167 allow religious or medical exemptions to grow beards up to 2 inches in length.

That's gonna mess with the seal on the gas masks a bit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - forgetting to remove my socks. at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (SchxB)

168 Traveling Man, I'm working with a small newspaper publisher. I do inputting of legal ads and some other tasks.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (L2ZTs)


Ok. I think I asked a few nights ago, but missed your reply. Thought you might be in construction. My company is hiring supers and experienced carpenters. But the work involves travel.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (a4ua0)

169 Its ameriKKKa NOT! 'merica! I will be voting for bernie if tulsi doesn't make it. Carville sent around clinton smear that Obama was born in kenya. What him break down on nbc/msnbc on 2016 election night on youtube beside madcow screaming at jill stein voters for destroying her beloved hillary's dream as tinkle leg drools.

Posted by: raimondo at February 16, 2020 10:50 PM (LnUL/)

170 Someone is socking a certain Hordean...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 10:50 PM (7WaWV)

171 Traveling Man, thanks for the tip anyway.
Sure I can't work in the nifty little trailer? :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:50 PM (L2ZTs)

172
Being a veteran myself and engaging with fellow vets everyday I do not believe for one moment that this number is true in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine


I wonder about the reported opioid death numbers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 10:50 PM (aKsyK)

173 https://tinyurl.com/vfcseaw
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (L2ZTs)
+++++++++++++++
1) She said Trump made her lose her appetite. She was clearly lying. She used to be an ordinary looking, kinda chubby girl. Not anymore.
2) I am pretty sure fashion designers are playing a joke. That looks like something from the "Derelicte" collection in Zoolander.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:51 PM (IT/Xb)

174 The U.S. Air Force has updated its dress code to allow hijabs, beards and turbans. The new guidelines make it easier for Muslim and Sikh personnel to seek religious waivers.

The change the Air Force made last week follows a similar policy the Army implemented.

The guidelines released Feb. 7 allow Muslim women to wear hijabs and Islamic head scarves. They also let Sikh men wear turbans and uncut hair, as well as allow religious or medical exemptions to grow beards up to 2 inches in length.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 10:46 PM (aKsyK)

But the Army has banned the scripture dog tags. Still doing the one step forward two steps back dance.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:51 PM (2DOZq)

175 Next month that engine's gonna be sold to someone by an auto body shop as "re-manufactured, barely been used."

"Yeah, it turns over just fine!"

Posted by: Blanco Basura - forgetting to remove my socks. at February 16, 2020 10:51 PM (SchxB)

176 Joe, yup.
She looks like something left over from the Oompa Loompas in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:52 PM (L2ZTs)

177 Ahhh feeling anxious about the stupid coronavirus again

According to Reuters, China reported 150 new mainland deaths from the bug as of today:

https://tinyurl.com/txznfn2

But it's Reuters, so take it for what it's worth.

Virtual virus-free hug incoming.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 10:52 PM (pPNCa)

178 2) I am pretty sure fashion designers are playing a joke. That looks like something from the "Derelicte" collection in Zoolander.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:51 PM (IT/Xb)

All haute couture is just one big running gag.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (NWiLs)

179 https://tinyurl.com/vfcseaw
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (L2ZTs)


Gawdalmighty.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (TdMsT)

180 The guidelines released Feb. 7 allow Muslim women to
wear hijabs and Islamic head scarves. They also let Sikh men wear
turbans and uncut hair, as well as allow religious or medical exemptions
to grow beards up to 2 inches in length.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


For an all volunteer military, we sure seem to change the rules to make volunteering easy. This will not end well.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (2ygtH)

181 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/s9ah7zl

https://tinyurl.com/wk6x857

https://tinyurl.com/u2vnrq3

https://tinyurl.com/waqht8k

https://tinyurl.com/vvjbl3q

Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (qAR6u)

182 Ladyl, yup.
And those tights are NOT flattering...

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (L2ZTs)

183 Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 16, 2020 10:49 P

Thanks for your comment
This wasn't the first story I've posted over the last year about vet suicides
Needless to say it's concerning

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 10:55 PM (aA3+G)

184 140 A lot of craft beers are going for less that the alcoholic sparkling water that is so hot now.



Got into winemaking at home 7 or 8 years ago. From the best (A
cherry wine from tart cherries that was like dunking your entire head
into a bucket of fresh cherries) to the worst (Probably the dandelion
that tasted 'ok' but smelled like bad eggs while it fermented.



All of it gets consumed.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 16, 2020 10:47 PM (Vy7tf)

I tried making beer at home but decided i was too much of a snob to like any beer I could make. I got into cider a long ways back (even before the gluten craze) and I decided to try to make it. Some batches have been great and others have been foul. That is the part that gets me. You get the wrong microbe flying into your blend and there will be trouble. I wold still do it again but so far it has been hit or miss.

Now you see commercial cideries and craf brewwers making 90 cal brews that are trying to replicate hard seltzer. Some of them are ok but it is obvious they are reacting to the market and not making what they want to make. You don't become a cider maker or craft brewer to make water.
Jim Cook of Sam Adams recently said his company's entire growth over the last couple years was based on Truly Seltzer. If not for alcoholic water, the company would not have grown at all.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 10:55 PM (n13/j)

185 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://tinyurl.com/qsxnf5d

https://tinyurl.com/vthykln

https://tinyurl.com/tn5ozet

https://tinyurl.com/vnyvmld

https://tinyurl.com/tox52nr

Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 10:55 PM (qAR6u)

186 I'd keep the Sikh AF personnel-- formidable military heritage! Ask Nepal if we can borrow some Gurkhas, too.

Posted by: mnw at February 16, 2020 10:55 PM (Cssks)

187 raimondo! Good to see you! Was afraid your mom had you in time out.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (2ygtH)

188 Israel - 14 day isolation for anyone coming in from Thailand, HK, Macau and Singapore.

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (G546f)

189 All haute couture is just one big running gag.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (NWiLs)

and yet, them fuckers gather the cash with a big fucking lawn rake, and put it all in big bags with dollar signs on them.

What at fucking stupid, stupid world.

*looks at plate of pizza rolls and glass of tequila whilst listening to Metal Church*

Eh. I'm doing all right.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (x8Wzq)

190 Oh boy!!

Lena Dunham makes runway debut at London Fashion Week

https://tinyurl.com/vfcseaw
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:49 PM (L2ZTs)

That dress will be a big seller in Wuhan. You can probably pack the normal-sized Chinese stiffs into it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (LxWV7)

191 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

Exclusively boobs tonight.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (2DOZq)

192 MisHum, did you see this from Ruben Navarette about Rush Limbaugh? Ruben's getting a ton of hate from the left over it, although Ruben himself is NOT a fan of PDT at all.

Ruben Navarette: In Praise Of Rush Limbaugh

https://tinyurl.com/v7pw474

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (L2ZTs)

193 91 Four cylinders fly too far, sports cars should have 12 cylinders
Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 10:33 PM (B7KlG)



For the children!

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (qu1px)

194 con gusto!

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 16, 2020 10:57 PM (5v5Zx)

195 Gawdalmighty.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (TdMsT)


The universe's sense of humor needs a Big Bang reset.

Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 10:57 PM (Y8PSl)

196 https://tinyurl.com/vfcseaw 
Posted by: qdpsteve

I think Jackson Browne said it best. "Doctor, My Eyes!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at February 16, 2020 10:57 PM (+y/Ru)

197 *looks at plate of pizza rolls and glass of tequila whilst listening to Metal Church*

Eh. I'm doing all right.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 10:56 PM (x8Wzq)

You have a plate? Luxury! We had to eat empty pizza roll boxes straight off the ground!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:57 PM (NWiLs)

198 The universe's sense of humor needs a Big Bang reset.
Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 10:57 PM (Y8PSl)
+++++++++++++++++++
Nah, just a destruction of all cultural "progress" since about 1960 would do the trick.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 10:58 PM (IT/Xb)

199 Anon, yup.
"Is this a prize for having learned how not to cry?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:58 PM (L2ZTs)

200 Virtual virus-free hug incoming.
Posted by: Basement Cat

thank you!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:58 PM (G546f)

201 Traveling Man, thanks for the tip anyway.
Sure I can't work in the nifty little trailer? :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:50 PM (L2ZTs)


No problem. You wouldn't want to work in my "nifty" trailer. Full of tools and materials and the ride is kind of tough.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 10:58 PM (a4ua0)

202 182 Ladyl, yup.
And those tights are NOT flattering...
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (L2ZTs)


It's mind-boggling.

Whoever dressed her must despise her.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 10:59 PM (TdMsT)

203 Traveling, hmmmm.
At this stage if someone offered me a good job in Arizona or Nevada, there's a halfway good chance I'd take it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:59 PM (L2ZTs)

204 Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM



Re: SSW #4b...

Intriguing red-letter design, there... I believe I get the reference!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Asetto at February 16, 2020 11:00 PM (7WaWV)

205 I don't even care (much) about how many die in China

It's the infected on the loose outside China that worries me

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:00 PM (G546f)

206 You have a plate? Luxury! We had to eat empty pizza roll boxes straight off the ground!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:57 PM (NWiLs)

Well. It's a paper plate. Found it when I was walking home from the baby lamb rendering plant.

I named it Janie. The plate, not the plant.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 11:00 PM (x8Wzq)

207 105 Gun company should sue KC for racial bias, keeping poor minorities from owning firearms.

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (B7KlG)

What happens when these gunmakers are no longer making the guns that cops and bodyguards need? Or our military?

Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 11:01 PM (qAR6u)

208 Lena Dunham makes runway debut at London Fashion Week

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It's futile. Even with a runway twice as long she'd get that porky fuselage off the ground with those flabby wings.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 11:02 PM (XVuno)

209 What happens when these gunmakers are no longer making the guns that cops and bodyguards need? Or our military?
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 11:01 PM (qAR6u)
+++++++++++
Their better-connected competitors with cost-plus contracts to furnish their products to the government (so long as they don't offer any product for sale to the public) will fill that need.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:03 PM (IT/Xb)

210 Traveling, hmmmm.
At this stage if someone offered me a good job in Arizona or Nevada, there's a halfway good chance I'd take it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:59 PM (L2ZTs)


Our company works in 44 States. But right now most of our work is on the east coast and south east. I've been on vacation since the first of November. Can't wait to start back to work though.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 11:03 PM (a4ua0)

211 Jaguar XE... four-cylinder...

1974 Chevy Vega hatchback. Aluminum engine. Only 4-cyl I ever owned. Utilitarian little vehicle, never gave me any trouble. But, 4-cyl.

Posted by: mindful webworker
it was no 1970 Mustang Mach I 351 4innaFloor Herst, knowmean?
at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (7OF+y)

212 All haute couture is just one big running gag.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 10:53 PM (NWiLs)


Just for you: a Vogue report on men's 2020 fashion trends that will surely make you gag: according to the magazine, men "are no longer bankers or lawyers. They are romantics and lovers; they are sustainable sensualists; they are deeply elegant with escapist tendencies."

You'll probably need eye bleach after looking at the photos: https://tinyurl.com/rto5pr5

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (pPNCa)

213 183 Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine

Thanks for your comment
This wasn't the first story I've posted over the last year about vet suicides
Needless to say it's concerning
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Not trying to downplay it at all as one is one too many but holy Christ... there's no way those numbers are accurate unless there making very loose connections.. but again one is too many..

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (+ldAm)

214
Finished weeding the garden this afternoon, vaccinated 11 dogs and brushed out Dan tonight.

Dan (body by Masarati, brains by Mattel) has that huge, cottony Swedish coats that he inherited from his great-great-grandfather Birk. It looks impressive in the ring but picks up twigs and garbage and turns into mats at the blink of an eye. Grooming him is a pain for him and us, but he took it reasonably well all things considered.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (7rVsF)

215 Well if she's not gonna watch her figure, neither will I.

Posted by: Men Everywhere at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (5v5Zx)

216 Traveling Man, wish I could take a break that long. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (L2ZTs)

217 It's mind-boggling.

Whoever dressed her must despise her.
Posted by: Ladyl

circus roustabouts

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (Y4EXg)

218 Traveling, hmmmm.
At this stage if someone offered me a good job in Arizona or Nevada, there's a halfway good chance I'd take it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 10:59 PM (L2ZTs)

Why not check on Craigslist Help Wanted section?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (LxWV7)

219
The universe's sense of humor needs a Big Bang reset.
Posted by: RickZ
--------

Yeah, I think there's a bug in the firmware.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (YvUf/)

220 AOP, good idea thanks :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (L2ZTs)

221 Working as a self employed person is now illegal in CA.
So, if you want to pay me $100 to play bass at your daughter's wedding, you can't, otherwise we are both illegal. Got to go through a payroll service. That service has requirements, and you won't like any of them.
Meanwhile, illegal immigrants get to work under the table, get paid cash, vote, serve on juries.
Fuck this.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (w7KSn)

222 Gun company should sue KC for racial bias, keeping poor minorities from owning firearms.

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 10:35 PM (B7KlG)

What happens when these gunmakers are no longer making the guns that cops and bodyguards need? Or our military?
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 11:01 PM (qAR6u

I am assuming they used a trafficking allegation to get around the statute that does not allow gun manufacturers to be sued for non defective allegations ( no strict liability) .

I also assume the trafficking allegation is bullshit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:06 PM (2DOZq)

223 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics




you know I have slept with every one of the women in the Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics.

Half dozen times or more with each of them.

You should know that to a woman each of them gets bitchy if you have sex nine or ten times and finish without any regard for their satisfaction.

To a woman.

You don't even want to know about the surprise anal.

Not more than 5 thank yous.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:06 PM (HALdu)

224 Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (pPNCa)


Simply gag worthy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

225 Half the shit on ebay and amazon can't be purchased by CA residents, and everything has a "prop 65 warning" on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at February 16, 2020 10:42 PM (3rEjV)


There isn't a damn new part I pull out of a box for a harley that don't have a frigging warning. A set of blinkers...warning. Gaskets...warning. Wiring...warning. Engine parts...warning. I can't believe the entire state hasn't committed fucking suicide by now if life is that frigging scary.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 11:07 PM (9Om/r)

226 Just for you: a Vogue report on men's 2020 fashion trends that will surely make you gag: according to the magazine, men "are no longer bankers or lawyers. They are romantics and lovers; they are sustainable sensualists; they are deeply elegant with escapist tendencies."
...
Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (pPNCa)
++++++++++++++
No, they aren't. No man should *ever* view the deceitful wishcasting by pop culture outlets as a rubric for behavior. Ever. Down that bath lies misery.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:07 PM (IT/Xb)

227 What happens when these gunmakers are no longer making the guns that cops and bodyguards need? Or our military?
Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 11:01 PM (qAR6u)

Jimenez has gone broke, and emerged under a new name several times already. No reason to think they won't do it again.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:07 PM (LxWV7)

228 I don't even care (much) about how many die in China

It's the infected on the loose outside China that worries me

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:00 PM (G546f)


Happy Chinese New Year! Now with more deadly virus.

You couldn't build a better worldwide distribution method than having all the Chinese nationals doing hadj back to the old country for the holiday then being allowed to leave.

/There are no more conspiracy theories. Just theories yet to be proven in a court of law.

Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 11:08 PM (Y8PSl)

229 I don't think Jag ever made good cars, beautiful, fast but not good.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:08 PM (HALdu)

230 750 million people are required to stay in their homes right now, under Martial law. They've also prohibited the use of automobiles in another province of about 60 million.

It's tough to know what's really going on over there. Is it really as medieval as some leaked video suggests? My sense is "yes", if only because of the fact there is no incentive to fabricate stories and upload to the cloud net, and they
may well end up dead or "missing" when telling the truth. They are very courageous to do this. Like Stelter, and all those guys.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 11:08 PM (48Qpn)

231 Simply gag worthy

Yeah, I thought the "boy ballet shoes" were particularly emetic.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:08 PM (pPNCa)

232 "Lena Dunham makes runway debut at London Fashion Week "

This prompted a few responses:

Why?

Wouldn't a blimp tether be a better option?

Why does she look so miserable, and puffy?

Seriously: Grow the fuck up and cut back on the tater skins. (BTW: her "parents" are an yuge part of her problems)

And why the fuck did I follow the link?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)

233 It's mind-boggling.

Whoever dressed her must despise her.
Posted by: Ladyl
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“Lena takes fashion seriously, but has so much fun at the same time, and that’s what we do. We take what we do seriously, but we also have fun with it. We just got on really well.”

“She dresses for herself,” Capaldo added. “We’ve been lucky to work with such powerful women from the beginning — women who are changing the world for a better place and Lena is a prime example of that. She embodies this spirit of power and intelligence. Everything we stand for as a brand, she ticks every box for us.”

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 11:09 PM (YvUf/)

234 4 Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (pPNCa)


Simply gag worthy
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:06 PM (aA3+G)


Are we being punked by the fashion industry?

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 11:09 PM (TdMsT)

235 Yay Michigan. In many ways, Florida North. They gots swamps n' skeeters too.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 16, 2020 11:10 PM (/P984)

236 What happens when these gunmakers are no longer making the guns that cops and bodyguards need? Or our military?



Posted by: kbdabear at February 16, 2020 11:01 PM (qAR6u)

the only thing that allow this experiment to survive is when we realize their is not one culture, but many cultures. If certain people stopped trying to force their culture onto others, we would start getting back to a normal America.

I can see why some people from the inner city hate guns for example. I talked with a liberal ER doctor once and his only experience with guns was the people who came into his operating room. He was still a off the wall lefty who gave no quarter to other opinions, but I could see his point of view. It was myopic, but still real.

I could show this guy millions who love to hunt, protect their families, live according to the Constitution, and are not threat to anyone. But he would not allow it, it is not part of his world. This is why we need to follow the Constitution and stop trying to be triumphalist. A conservatives main job should be to be left in peace. The Left today has no interest in that and that is a problem. This place went pair shaped when too many Americans decided their primary enemies are fellow Americans.

Most of these people should sue their teachers and look side eyed at their parents.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 11:11 PM (n13/j)

237
Why does she look so miserable, and puffy?

Seriously: Grow the fuck up and cut back on the tater skins. (BTW: her "parents" are an yuge part of her problems)

And why the fuck did I follow the link?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 11:09 PM (x8Wzq)


For her age, Lena appears incredibly out of shape.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 11:11 PM (TdMsT)

238 Ahhh feeling anxious about the stupid coronavirus again

There was an article in Watts Up With That on coronavirus that was somewhat hopeful.

The bad news:

1) It's quite infectious.
2) Three-quarters of the cases are mild - in the other quarter of cases, it turns into viral pneumonia, with a high associated death rate.

The good news:

1) Fourteen-day quarantines really do work. (Whether we have the political will to impose fourteen-day quarantines if the virus gets established here is another question.)

2) You can treat serious cases with an antivirals drug, remdesivir. The guy who got coronavirus in Seattle, after visiting China, went into the viral pneumonia stage, and the pneumonia cleared up in twenty-four hours after he started getting remdesivir.

So good news and bad news, but more good than bad.

The article:

https://tinyurl.com/us96lvh

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 16, 2020 11:11 PM (I2/tG)

239 Give it a rest Carville. If Bernie was part of the Clinton machine you'd be singing the Internationale at Bernie's events.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 11:11 PM (EQRLd)

240 1974 Chevy Vega hatchback. Aluminum engine. Only 4-cyl I ever owned. Utilitarian little vehicle, never gave me any trouble. But, 4-cyl.
Posted by: mindful webworker
it was no 1970 Mustang Mach I 351 4innaFloor Herst, knowmean? at February 16, 2020 11:04 PM (7OF+y)

Nothing wrong with 4 cylinder engines; they get the job done. Umpty million Model T's, Model A's, and VW's, Toyotas, and Nissans can't wrong.

But Jaguar was a luxury make, whose inline sixes and V12's were legendary. Huge degradation in perceived value, even if it is an exceptionally good 4-banger.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:12 PM (LxWV7)

241 Are we being punked by the fashion industry?

I certainly think so. And the gawdawful prose that the fashion magazines spew on their pages is as repulsive as the garments in the photos. I feel sorry for the copy editors who have to work on that dreck.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:13 PM (pPNCa)

242 There is an average annual rate of about 45,000 suicides total in USA.

6100 per year of people who have at one time served in the military seems not unusual.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:13 PM (2DOZq)

243 Three-quarters of the cases are mild - in the other quarter of cases, it turns into viral pneumonia, with a high associated death rate.

Like how the bubonic plague was just a painful chore unless it went pneumonic [or septicaemic].

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 16, 2020 11:14 PM (/P984)

244 Also, the stupid women's magazine thing got me to thinking about something. It's always been awful.

My parents moved recently and there was an old copy of "Allure" magazine from 2013 left behind in the built-in magazine rack by the toilet. I was, uh, busy one day and for lack of something better to do, I leafed through it. There was this gem (I copied down as an example) from an interview with Venus Williams:
I always have a dream that I have a kid and that I have to change the diaper. I'm trying to give the kid away because I want to keep playing tennis. It's really bad.

Your cultural elite. Why on earth does *anyone* subscribe to these magazines? They're neurosis-driving bundles of immorality and terrible advice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:15 PM (IT/Xb)

245
For her age, Lena appears incredibly out of shape.
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 11:11 PM (TdMsT)

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A sphere is a shape.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (XVuno)

246 Another oh boy! David French (no linky for him) is now asking, "how then should Christians vote?"

But of course, he doesn't believe they should vote for people who will actually support the right for Christians exercise their beliefs, i.e. ickypoo PDT supporters.

Instead he believes Christians should vote for people who would murder them en masse, if they could. Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (L2ZTs)

247 >>>1) Fourteen-day quarantines really do work. (Whether we have the political will to impose fourteen-day quarantines if the virus gets established here is another question.)


There's no question about it. Americans won't go for it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (aA3+G)

248 There is an average annual rate of about 45,000 suicides total in USA.

6100 per year of people who have at one time served in the military seems not unusual.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:13 PM (2DOZq)


Mathemanatin' be hard. Also Venn Diagrams.

Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (Y8PSl)

249 Traveling Man, wish I could take a break that long. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 11:05 PM (L2ZTs)


If I told you how I got that arrangement with my company, I'd have to shoot you, ha ha.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (a4ua0)

250 who knows if the chicom are quarantining those with wuhanbola or enemies of the state?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (HALdu)

251
It's mind-boggling.

Whoever dressed her must despise her.
Posted by: Ladyl

circus roustabouts
Posted by: Tonypete


HEY, RUBE!

Posted by: Dog faced boy at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (aKsyK)

252 Traveling Man, I assume it involves having compromising photos of the CEO. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 11:17 PM (L2ZTs)

253 who knows if the chicom are quarantining those with wuhanbola or enemies of the state?
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (HALdu)
+++++++++++
I am sure this is a Chicom take on "the power of and."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:17 PM (IT/Xb)

254 Fourteen-day quarantines really do work. (Whether we have the political will to impose fourteen-day quarantines if the virus gets established here is another question.)


There's no question about it. Americans won't go for it
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

With no bail in New York for criminals, quarantine would Just Be Wrong.

Posted by: Miklos, not if they're consistent at February 16, 2020 11:17 PM (QzkSJ)

255 250 who knows if the chicom are quarantining those with wuhanbola or enemies of the state?
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (HALdu)

both

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (G546f)

256 who knows if the chicom are quarantining those with wuhanbola or enemies of the state?
Posted by: not so

----

The ever appropriate "and" works here.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (Y4EXg)

257 I am sure this is a Chicom take on "the power of and."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February







Right. But I mean maybe the majority are enemies of the state.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (HALdu)

258 Why on earth does *anyone* subscribe to these magazines?

I'm inclined to think that a lot of "subscribers" are people who work in advertising agencies and are trying to figure out what might appeal to the "influencers" who post videos on YouTube.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (pPNCa)

259 who knows if the chicom are quarantining those with wuhanbola or enemies of the state?
Posted by: not so

The middle part of the Venn diagram will steadily expand.

Posted by: Miklos, PM predictifier at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (QzkSJ)

260 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:15 PM (IT/Xb)

Well she still is playing tennis and doesn't have any kids.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (2DOZq)

261 Hey Insom at 6 6 81.

How are you doing? I've had a day off so I think I got a lot accomplished but I'm beat to hell and think I have to go to bed soon. Work beckons tomorrow.

Any word on your job interview? Wish you the best.

Posted by: Farmer at February 16, 2020 11:19 PM (K1VGd)

262 247 >>>1) Fourteen-day quarantines really do work. (Whether we have the political will to impose fourteen-day quarantines if the virus gets established here is another question.)


There's no question about it. Americans won't go for it

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:16 PM (aA3+G)



At least not until people start dropping like flies here.

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:19 PM (Z7lwY)

263 The media's embrace of Avenatti is incomprehensible to me.

His malevolence radiated clear through the TV screen. How did the hacks not feel this sitting next to him?

Posted by: Flubber at February 16, 2020 11:19 PM (PQnIX)

264 I am anxious because our trip is coming up next month
I am gonna nag every one in our family into wearing masks and gloves
coz if even one gets sick we all get sick

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (G546f)

265 The media's embrace of Avenatti is incomprehensible to me.



His malevolence radiated clear through the TV screen. How did the hacks not feel this sitting next to him?

Posted by: Flubber at February 16, 2020 11:19 PM (PQnIX)

it was their malevolence.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (n13/j)

266 The middle part of the Venn diagram will steadily expand.

Posted by: Miklos, PM predictifier at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (QzkSJ)


The middle part of Lena is steadily expanding.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (5v5Zx)

267 I am anxious because our trip is coming up next month
I am gonna nag every one in our family into wearing masks and gloves
coz if even one gets sick we all get sick
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February




where?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (HALdu)

268 Appropos of nothing, but I saw a couple posts recently by reg'lers on the Zenith Trans-Oceanic shortwave radios. I have had several. Pain in the ass to work on. I kept three, out of all the models. Well four I guess. Or five. And some chassis. I have a nice export dual voltage 8G005, and two 7G605 "bombers", and a solid state 7000. One of the 7G605 models is pristine, with original factory tubes, battery, owners manual, tags, etc. I don't believe it was ever used. There's got to be a story behind that one, because radios were in high demand and that particular model cost $70 in 1942, a pretty good chunk of change.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (48Qpn)

269 For her age, Lena appears incredibly out of shape.
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 11:11 PM (TdMsT)

"Globular" is a shape.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (LxWV7)

270 Michigan is America's high five, unless you count the U.P.; then it's America's time-out.

Posted by: Grand Rapids at February 16, 2020 11:21 PM (Xo3T0)

271 where?
Posted by: not so

Italy

it's the airports and planes I'm worried about

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:21 PM (G546f)

272 Any non Chinese people die from the Mexican beer virus yet?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:21 PM (2DOZq)

273 Michigan is America's high five, unless you count the U.P.; then it's America's time-out.
Posted by: Grand Rapids at February


EVery time I look at michigan I assume it is covered in latex

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:21 PM (HALdu)

274 The middle part of Lena is steadily expanding.
Posted by: Count de Monet

She and Leon oughta hang out.

Posted by: Miklos, who also speaks jive at February 16, 2020 11:22 PM (QzkSJ)

275 I'm inclined to think that a lot of "subscribers" are people who work in advertising agencies and are trying to figure out what might appeal to the "influencers" who post videos on YouTube.
Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (pPNCa)
+++++++++++++
My same question applies to this type of "influencer" on Instagram, TikTok*, YouTube, etc.

* Especially Chicom-run TikTok.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:22 PM (IT/Xb)

276 Misanthropic Humanitarian


I dunno, seems a boatload would love to skip 2 weeks of work, not realizing it would mean no bar, no store, no movie, etc.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 11:22 PM (2ygtH)

277 Right. But I mean maybe the majority are enemies of the state.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:18 PM (HALdu)


In all communist countries, 'enemy of the state' is fluid. In China's case, it is transmission fluid.

Posted by: RickZ at February 16, 2020 11:22 PM (Y8PSl)

278 Italy

it's the airports and planes I'm worried about
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February



Hasn't everybody stopped flying into and out of china now?

You'll be fine.

The seats are more dangerous than wuhanbola is.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:23 PM (HALdu)

279 Expect lots of media saltiness. Sonic has made $57 million. They're raging about it beating Birds of Prey, and also that they caved to "toxic fans" and redid the cgi.

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:24 PM (Z7lwY)

280 The seats are more dangerous than wuhanbola is.
Posted by: not so

The CEO of Delta says passengers should ask permission before sneezing on people and putting their seats back.

Posted by: Miklos, almost a Flying Colonel at February 16, 2020 11:24 PM (QzkSJ)

281 Traveling Man, I assume it involves having compromising photos of the CEO. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 11:17 PM (L2ZTs)


Nah...just a good sales job by me that made it beneficial to the company and me. I have a side gig where I make real good money between Thanksgiving and Christmas that I had before going to work for them that I wanted to keep doing. Helps to work for a family oriented business that cares if it's employees do good. Got very lucky.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 11:25 PM (a4ua0)

282 The CEO of Delta says passengers should ask permission before sneezing on people and putting their seats back.
Posted by: Miklos, almost a Flying Colonel at February




That "don't put your seat back" thing is bs.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:25 PM (HALdu)

283 Here's an argument : Christians should vote for Bernie Sanders because we all know that his supporters will make living Christians into saints faster, through martyrdom.

I mean, just read the sh!t his supporters all say. They're not shy about it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 16, 2020 11:26 PM (/P984)

284 I dunno, seems a boatload would love to skip 2 weeks of work, not realizing it would mean no bar, no store, no movie, etc.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 11:22 PM (2ygtH)

Liquor/ Grocery delivery, Amazon , hub grub and On Demand. No problem.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:26 PM (2DOZq)

285 Expect lots of media saltiness. Sonic has made $57 million. They're raging about it beating Birds of Prey, and also that they caved to "toxic fans" and redid the cgi.
Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:24 PM (Z7lwY)
++++++++
I had heard that the CGI was incredibly bad and after a lot of blowback, they went and changed it.

Since when is it bad to respond your market (instead of, say, letting a star who isn't quite as big a star as she thinks she is have her own vanity project)?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:26 PM (IT/Xb)

286 Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 11:22 PM (2ygtH)

Yup

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:27 PM (aA3+G)

287 actually the US has brought home passengers from the infected cruise ship I think

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:28 PM (G546f)

288
There isn't a damn new part I pull out of a box for a harley that don't have a frigging warning. A set of blinkers...warning. Gaskets...warning. Wiring...warning. Engine parts...warning. I can't believe the entire state hasn't committed fucking suicide by now if life is that frigging scary.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 11:07 PM (9Om/r)


They must know that the warnings are going to waste on people who put flammable fuel directly over a super hot engine, put the whole thing between their legs and call it fun!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 16, 2020 11:28 PM (z79tQ)

289 The girls in the bikinis tonight were better than usual, not too skinny.


skinny girls make me nervous.


Worry about them breaking.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:28 PM (HALdu)

290 I dunno, seems a boatload would love to skip 2 weeks of work, not realizing it would mean no bar, no store, no movie, etc.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp

Really. Who will enrich the lettuce with E. Coli?

Posted by: Miklos, a job San Franciscans could do at February 16, 2020 11:28 PM (QzkSJ)

291
The media's embrace of Avenatti is incomprehensible to me.

His malevolence radiated clear through the TV screen. How did the hacks not feel this sitting next to him?
Posted by: Flubber


Because his malevolence radiated at US.
The hacks radiate it as well.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 11:29 PM (aKsyK)

292 The should take the ss whuanbola out and sink it somewhere.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:29 PM (HALdu)

293 One of the 7G605 models is pristine, with original factory tubes, battery, owners manual, tags, etc. I don't believe it was ever used. There's got to be a story behind that one, because radios were in high demand and that particular model cost $70 in 1942, a pretty good chunk of change.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 11:20 PM (48Qpn)

I have an 8G005, and it works OK, but the audio gets all distorted when it warms up. I am thinking maybe a screen or cathode resistor in the output stage. It did get a complete recap.

I have often thought about getting a poor example of one of the later models, with the unobtanium RF tube, and convert it over to straight AC operation, with 6BA6, 6BE6, etc. Might be able to make quite a hot bandspread receiver out of it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:29 PM (LxWV7)

294 His malevolence radiated clear through the TV screen. How did the hacks not feel this sitting next to him?
Posted by: Flubber

he looked like a sleazy sperm

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:30 PM (G546f)

295 he looked like a sleazy sperm
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February



how is that different? How do you know?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:30 PM (HALdu)

296
I dunno, seems a boatload would love to skip 2 weeks of work, not realizing it would mean no bar, no store, no movie, etc.

Not a single luxury.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 11:31 PM (aKsyK)

297 he looked like a sleazy sperm
Posted by: vmom 2020

I'll buy him a MAGA hat to wear in prison.

Posted by: Miklos, a kindly sort at February 16, 2020 11:31 PM (QzkSJ)

298 I'll buy him a MAGA hat to wear in prison.
Posted by: Miklos, a kindly sort at February



daisy dukes

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:32 PM (HALdu)

299 285 Expect lots of media saltiness. Sonic has made $57 million. They're raging about it beating Birds of Prey, and also that they caved to "toxic fans" and redid the cgi.
Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:24 PM (Z7lwY)
++++++++
I had heard that the CGI was incredibly bad and after a lot of blowback, they went and changed it.

Since when is it bad to respond your market (instead of, say, letting a star who isn't quite as big a star as she thinks she is have her own vanity project)?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:26 PM (IT/Xb)



It was really bad. Not even close to the original game design. Check out the comparison of the old vs the new.

https://tinyurl.com/vseryub


And it's "bad" because it's "toxic men" who are complaining about you changing their fandom. See the Star Wars complaints. But they're not saying shit about the psycho "new fans" that are bullying people off twitter because their Rey/Kylo romantic fanfiction is done.

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:32 PM (Z7lwY)

300 Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:30 PM (G546f)

****SNORT****

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:32 PM (aA3+G)

301 And it's "bad" because it's "toxic men" who are complaining about you changing their fandom. See the Star Wars complaints. But they're not saying shit about the psycho "new fans" that are bullying people off twitter because their Rey/Kylo romantic fanfiction is done.
Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:32 PM (Z7lwY)
+++++++++++++
:: makes wanking motion ::

These people are free to piss in their own pools. They can leave mine out of it. I am not a gamer nor am I a Star Wars fan, but this crap is exactly that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 16, 2020 11:34 PM (IT/Xb)

302 I am drinking a "Peon's Pink Lemonade". A shot of Pinnacle "Whipped Cream" vodka, the juice of 2 blood oranges, and fill the glass with Minute Maid lemonade. Very tasty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:34 PM (LxWV7)

303 263 The media's embrace of Avenatti is incomprehensible to me.

His malevolence radiated clear through the TV screen. How did the hacks not feel this sitting next to him?

Posted by: Flubber at February 16, 2020 11:19 PM (PQnIX)




Because they spend all their time around Democrats and he probably is only average for them.

Posted by: buzzion at February 16, 2020 11:35 PM (Z7lwY)

304 261 Hey Insom at 6 6 81.

How are you doing? I've had a day off so I think I got a lot accomplished but I'm beat to hell and think I have to go to bed soon. Work beckons tomorrow.

Any word on your job interview? Wish you the best.
Posted by: Farmer at February 16, 2020 11:19 PM (K1VGd)

Hey pal! I'm doing alright. Keeping my fingers crossed. Hope you get a good night's rest and feel better tomorrow.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 11:35 PM (NWiLs)

305

General Motors Co is retreating from more markets outside of the United States and China, saying on Sunday that it will wind down sales, design and engineering operations in Australia and New Zealand and retire the Holden brand by 2021.

It also said that China's Great Wall Motor Co Ltd had agreed to buy GM's Thailand manufacturing plant.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 11:35 PM (aKsyK)

306 I am drinking a "Peon's Pink Lemonade". A shot of Pinnacle "Whipped Cream" vodka, the juice of 2 blood oranges, and fill the glass with Minute Maid lemonade. Very tasty.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

But it's the little umbrella that really makes it.

Posted by: Miklos, having what he's having at February 16, 2020 11:36 PM (QzkSJ)

307 good luck insomniac!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 16, 2020 11:36 PM (/P984)

308 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:38 PM (HALdu)

309 17
"Ahoy, fodomites and fodomettes!"



I hear this in a Boris Karloff voice.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (COzlW)

_______


Makes me want to call Mini Micro Midget Munchkin Bloomberg supports FrodoMites and FrodEttes!

Posted by: ShainS, vote Bernie 2020 -- Make Gulags Great Again! at February 16, 2020 11:39 PM (WqPYg)

310 as chubby and plain looking as I am, I will never be as fat or as homely as Lena Dunham.

a family member should gently tell her to avoid cameras.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 11:39 PM (PkVlr)

311 as chubby and plain looking as I am, I will never be as fat or as homely as Lena Dunham.

a family member should gently tell her to avoid cameras.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February




you know, pics

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:39 PM (HALdu)

312 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog

burrrp

Posted by: Barry! at February 16, 2020 11:40 PM (/P984)

313 Re vet suicide, not shocking. Do the math-
60,000÷9yrs=6,666/yr
Roughly 20,000,000 vets ÷ 6,666 = .00003
So .003% / yr Not exactly an epidemic. Typical VA fun with statistics to get more bucks.



Posted by: Rumblestiltskin at February 16, 2020 11:40 PM (MrQy9)

314 308 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:38 PM (HALdu)


Spot on

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 11:40 PM (aA3+G)

315 Spot on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February




nice

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:41 PM (HALdu)

316 a family member should gently tell her to avoid cameras.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 11:39 PM (PkVlr)

Wait until the lawsuits for busted lenses start rolling in.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:41 PM (LxWV7)

317 AOP, the TOs are AC/DC radios through and through. They were designed around battery operation, but they work fine.

The 1L6 is neither rare nor even fragile. The battery tubes (loctals like 1LA6 and later 9 pin were designed around military requirements. They aren't even particularly expensive, unless you insist on NOS boxed. It's entirely a made up internet lore thing, constantly told and retold over and over, by people who don't even own them.

As an experiment I ran one recapped set for over 2 years straight 24/7 on line voltage till I got bored with the experiment. The tubes lasted about another 10 years of regular use. They were designed to be used with varying voltages and rough service. They care not a whit about overvoltage. In fact trying to "baby" the filaments will like as not cause the oscillator to drop out completely. Just recap the power supply, and the wax capacitors, and resistors, and they will last forever.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 11:41 PM (48Qpn)

318 Spot on
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Red Rover, Red Rover
Send MisHum right over

Posted by: Miklos, revising and extending at February 16, 2020 11:42 PM (QzkSJ)

319 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:38 PM (HALdu)


Nothing wrong with a free dog, either.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:43 PM (LxWV7)

320 Posted by: nurse ratched at February



Having met Nurse, I can tell the horde she is lying. She is cute, bright and a fun conversationalist.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 11:43 PM (2ygtH)

321 The talk of 4 cylinder engines reminded me that Mickey Thompson built a 4 cylinder rail, using a Pontiac engine, which in turn reminded me that he also built a 2 cylinder engine. Pic:
https://tinyurl.com/tdbgcdg

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 11:44 PM (KoKdw)

322 Avenatti's constant attack on Trump blinded the Leftist media from any perception of sleaze. They wanted to believe so they did.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:44 PM (2DOZq)

323 So French makes a bundle saying in many hundreds of words that he will not vote for Trump or the Dems. I guess he is hinting he is all in for Bloomy but I don't care enough either way. It is funny this guy gets paid to say nothing.

One thing that stands out in this article is that he is not trying to influence the Left, he is try to influence Christians. He makes his politics purely religious and he uses ONLY a religious test. Funny, I would think his liberal buddies would be offended by that. But of course they are not offended because French is only trying to dissuade conservatives and Christians. Who cares if he says the entire American Experiment is based on religion? He is only trying to tamp down Christian votes.

This guy French is a freaking joke. Only in this disjointed social media world would this guy ever be a thing. He has a right to his opinion. It is the same as some random guy regurgitating garbage at the local bar.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (n13/j)

324 sorry. I'm coming off my antidepressants, it's week two and the mood swings are getting to me.

why did I even start the damn things?

ugh. sorry yall.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (PkVlr)

325 319 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:38 PM (HALdu)


Nothing wrong with a free dog, either.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:43 PM (LxWV7)

---------------------------

Free dogs are harder and harder to find these days.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (CAJOC)

326
There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.

Posted by: not so at

Dang, I was going with CNC machine.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (2ygtH)

327 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:38 PM (HALdu)


Nothing wrong with a free dog, either.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February



We get ours out of kill shelters and the fee is around $75. We got an expensive dog fro $200 because they were pimping the fact she was purebred.

Whatever we pay goes to the dogs.

Free is good to though.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (HALdu)

328 Evening, horde. So, I watched the movie Stargate for maybe only the second time since the theater, and... WTF? French Stewart playing a soldier? Whose job was it to buy the cocaine for the casting agency THAT day?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (I99aF)

329 hugs, nurse ratched

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:46 PM (G546f)

330 Nothing wrong with a free dog, either.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:43 PM (LxWV7)

No such thing as free puppies or kittens.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:46 PM (2DOZq)

331 As an experiment I ran one recapped set for over 2 years straight 24/7 on line voltage till I got bored with the experiment. The tubes lasted about another 10 years of regular use. They were designed to be used with varying voltages and rough service. They care not a whit about overvoltage. In fact trying to "baby" the filaments will like as not cause the oscillator to drop out completely. Just recap the power supply, and the wax capacitors, and resistors, and they will last forever.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 11:41 PM (48Qpn)

Thanks. That is good to know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:46 PM (LxWV7)

332 {{{nurse}}}

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 16, 2020 11:46 PM (/P984)

333 Evening, horde. So, I watched the movie Stargate for maybe only the second time since the theater, and... WTF? French Stewart playing a soldier? Whose job was it to buy the cocaine for the casting agency THAT day?
Posted by: Rusty Nail at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM


Prolly used the same dealer who provided for John Belushi.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 11:47 PM (a4ua0)

334 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February



This is no time to be copping a feel.



/

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:47 PM (HALdu)

335 This is no time to be copping a feel.



/
Posted by: not so

bullshit, I'll take all the hugs I can get.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 11:48 PM (PkVlr)

336 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February



This is no time to be copping a feel.



/
Posted by: not so


It's OK, she's a nurse.

Posted by: Miklos, still playing doctor at February 16, 2020 11:48 PM (QzkSJ)

337 speaking of dogs, doggeh is glued to the tv when KTE plays youtube videos of a cat and dog channel
it cracks me up
his tail wags, and ge tries to sniff the tv dog's butt

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 11:49 PM (G546f)

338 308 There is no better return in happiness than buying a dog.

All our dogs just walked up to our place and adopted us.

The deciders of Providence have not blessed us again for a long time. Not sure we could handle it anyway.

But I miss our last good old boy so much.

Good night
Sweet dreams
Never mind
those nearby screams
Burma Shiv

* pulls receiver out of acoustic coupler *
A♠❚❙❙❘❘❘

Posted by: mindful webworker
so many times, so little chance
at February 16, 2020 11:49 PM (7OF+y)

339 This is no time to be copping a feel.



/
Posted by: not so

bullshit, I'll take all the hugs I can get.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February




awkward

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:49 PM (HALdu)

340 330 Nothing wrong with a free dog, either.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:43 PM (LxWV7)

No such thing as free puppies or kittens.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:46 PM (2DOZq)

-------------------------------

When I was growing up, we got most of our pets for free. Two dogs from freinds of the family who couldn't keep them. A kitten found as a stray. And two puppies from a litter that were just being given away. Nobody gives them away anymore.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at February 16, 2020 11:50 PM (CAJOC)

341 No such thing as free puppies or kittens.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 11:46 PM (2DOZq)

If you want to care for them properly, the vet bills mount up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 11:50 PM (LxWV7)

342 speaking of dogs, doggeh is glued to the tv when KTE plays youtube videos of a cat and dog channel
it cracks me up
his tail wags, and ge tries to sniff the tv dog's butt
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February




ours watches whatever we are watching. weird.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:50 PM (HALdu)

343 why did I even start the damn things?



ugh. sorry yall.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 11:45 PM (PkVlr)


uh, it seemed like a good idea at the time?
Hang in there.

Posted by: Count de Monet at February 16, 2020 11:50 PM (5v5Zx)

344 So, I watched the movie Stargate for maybe only the second time since the theater, and... WTF? French Stewart playing a soldier?

I liked Stargate, nonironically. I always knew it was based on some sh!t Egyptology but I did think the acting was fine, and the worldbuilding didn't offend me. They even hired some linguists to compose paraCoptic dialogue.

That was what was needed in Tom Cruise's Mummy movie, and for that matter Dwayne Johnson's Scorpion King, which we didn't get.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at February 16, 2020 11:50 PM (/P984)

345 bullshit, I'll take all the hugs I can get.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 11:48 PM (PkVlr)


Hugs from me, and hugs for Lucy from the kittehs.

Posted by: Basement Cat at February 16, 2020 11:51 PM (pPNCa)

346 If you want to care for them properly, the vet bills mount up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February


Yeah.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 11:51 PM (HALdu)

Gun Thread: The CMP 1911A1! [Weasel]

CMP Logo.jpg

Last week, our pal The Walking Dude reported taking delivery of a surplus 1911A1 from the CMP. Whoa! What gives?! A 1911 from the CMP?! Who doesn't want some of that action? Let's find out more below, shall we?

NOTE: I'll be checking in periodically during the thread this evening so please don't burn the place down, 'kay? Remember, you're all Gun Thread Safety Officers!

******

According to their website, The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a national organization dedicated to training and educating U. S. citizens in responsible uses of firearms and airguns through gun safety training, marksmanship training and competitions. The CMP is a federally chartered 501(c)(3) corporation that places its highest priority on serving youth through gun safety and marksmanship activities that encourage personal growth and build life skills.

They also do really cool stuff like selling and repairing old martial arms!

Yep. That's right. In a 2 year pilot program allowed under 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, surplus 1911 semi-automatic pistols were released to the CMP for sale to the public. Apparantly, the government was spending $2 million per year to store 100,000 surplus 1911s which had been replaced in 1985 by the Beretta M9. Here's a 2018 article on the program from the American Rifleman Magazine.

Anyhoo, Mr Lucky-pants Walking Dude jumped through all the right hoops and was a lottery winner, and agreed to his story:

Every year the CMP will receive up to 10,000 1911A1 pistols from military arsenals for sale to the public. The funds from these sales will support CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) programs. Pistols are inspected and sorted into 3 grades (rack, field and Service ). People who wanted to purchase a 1911 pistol submitted an application packet to the CMP. Packets were assigned a random generated lottery number The initial lottery they are still working through had almost 20,000 applications with lottery numbers assigned. When your lottery number comes up you are contacted by phone or email and provide payment prior to shipment. Two background checks are performed, an initial background check prior to shipment and another at the 01 firearms dealer the pistol is shipped to. I had submitted my packet in Sept of 2018 and was assigned lottery number 11,7xx. The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is that in 18-24 months they will be taking new applications.

For more information see 1911 Information - Civilian Marksmanship Program

Well danged if this isn't Gun Thread worthy! One of our own Morons scores and scores bigly! Congratulations, The Walking Dude! Can we see some pictures?

As promised here are some photos of the 1911A1 I just got from the CMP. Years ago I waited too long to order a M-1 Carbine and one day they were gone never to be seen again at that price so I did not make that same mistake with the M-1 Garands and now the 1911's they offer. I really wanted a war time 1911A1 because my Dad carried one through France and all the way into Berlin when it fell. He actually got a marksmanship medal for it, a pin that looked like a little 1911A1, in addition to the marksmanship medal for rifle which is a musket in a long blue box with a wreath. He said not many people qualified for the marksmanship medal for the 1911A1. He passed away in 2017. We are losing the greatest generation as they march off into time. Not many of them left.

Man, ain't that the truth. Great story, The Walking Dude, and thank you for sharing it with us. Now let's see those pictures!


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Shipped in a lockable case which much better than the cases used to ship M-1 Garands.

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Nice foam insert with cutouts for the pistol and magazine.

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As a gun collector you learn pretty early that you need to look in every nook and cranny of these boxes. Underneath all the foam was an Amry tech manual for the M1911A1 and a lock to safely secure the pistol from young'uns.

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Markings right side. US govt property mark , SN (the large O in No. without a line under it indicates its the last marking iteration used by Remington Rand when they resumed production in 1943). From researching the SN it left the factory in March of 1945. To the left of the top of the grip if you look closely you can see partial stamp of the ordnance dept inspection (crossed cannons) which started appearing on pistols in 1942. Partial stampings of this are common. The 8 or & upper right of trigger and the J or 0 on the trigger guard directly below the trigger are some sort of factory inspection marks. I don't know what they mean yet and am still researching those.

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Left side of pistol- last of 3 iterations of Remington Rand Slide marking (shorter than the slide stop) which was used from SN 980000 until end of production. Notice P proof mark near magazine release button to right of trigger. Also notice the FJA to the upper right of triggers which are the inspectors Initials (Col Frank J Atwood) only found on Remington Rand and Ithaca frames.

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Top of slide and magazine heel- Notice P proof mark on top of slide to the right of the rear sight. The markings on the barrel indicate it is a govt contract barrel made after 1949 ".45 auto" and "7791193 " The 7791193 is the govt contract number. The magazine markings indicate it is a post WWII govt contract magazine made by Checkmate Industries.

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Disaasembled - the C in a box on the bottom of the barrel Lug indicates the post 1949 govt contract barrel was made by Colt.

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Barrel lug - other side.

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Barrel Rifling- looks like new or very little use to me.

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For more info on markings follow the Cool Gun Site link where you can find out a lot about these pistols.

The Walking Dude goes on to mention the CMP currently has lend/lease M-1 Garands returned from the Philippines for sale and he is waiting for a Winchester rack grade special which should ship out in a few weeks. For more information on the Garands they have see M1 Garand - Civilian Marksmanship Program.

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Most of us remember Neon Madman as a collector of rare and unusual cartridges which he frequently shares with us. Well, he's obviously a pretty damn good shooter, too! I'll let his target speak for itself:

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Damn, man! That's some nice shooting right there! What gun were you using?

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Sweet! A Smith & Wesson revolver, and a K38 to be exact. Neon Madman tells us:

I am mainly a target shooter, favoring .22 and .38 Special. I mainly shoot revolvers in single-action mode with a two handed hold and factory iron sights, although I'll also occasionally break out one of the autoloaders for variety. I sometimes save my good targets to take along and show to my dad when I go to check on the old folks on Sunday nights. The attached target is from a week ago, and is a personal best - 6 shots of .38 wadcutter from my old K-38 at 25 feet.

Those of you who have been reading here for long will know I'm a big fan of Smith & Wesson revolvers, and the K38 model in particular. They do not call this the Masterpiece for no good reason! I have lots of old guns and lots of new guns but for dead level accuracy and the simple joy of shooting, it's hard to beat the K38.

Very nicely done, Neon Madman, and be glad you have your dad around to show your targets to. Thank you for sending this in!

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Not all threats to your gun rights come directly as a frontal assault on the 2nd Amendment. With alarming frequency, privately owned gun ranges and shooting clubs are being dragged into court over noise complaints and safety concerns. In many cases, these facilities have operated safely for years, a fact the sometimes new "neighbors" often brought to an area by urban sprawl, typically fail to appreciate.

A good example of the clash between neighbors and shooting ranges is the Panteo Sportsman's Club in Lexington, SC which has been taken to court by residents in their area. As reported here, the range owners assert they are operating safely and the neighbors claim to be living in a war zone.

People have a right to be safe on their own property, but people also probably shouldn't locate near a shooting range if they don't like the sound of gunfire. These situations will only continue to occur with increasing frequency. What do you think is the solution?

A big thanks to our pal Will, a member of the Panteo Sportsman's Club, for sending this in!

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NoVaMoMe 2020!!

For those who might've missed it, NoVaMoMe 2020 was announced to great fanfare a few days ago. The NoVaMoMe, a Weaselbell Production, is pretty much the social event of the season, and one you simply cannot afford to miss! Well, at least it's the can't miss social event for May 9th between 5pm and 10pm in the small geographic region of Fairfax, Virginia. All of the details and instructions for claiming a spot can be yours simply by emailing the Central Planning Committee at the link provided on the main page, left sidebar; novamome2020 at gmail dot cee oh mmm. The email address is also usually linked in our nics. As of Saturday, we're about halfway to the 100 person maximum capacity of the new and exciting venue.

Our best buddy and planner/hostess extraordinaire bluebell was quoted recently regarding the big event:

There will be plenty of Horde spouses at the MoMe, some of whom read the blog, some of whom don't, and some completely apolitical. I want to assure everyone that MoMes are a place to relax and have fun and meet your grey-box friends in person, and rarely does politics even come up! Think of it as a big family reunion, only with people you actually like.

Totally not at shiv-point, I vigorously agree with all of bluebell's comments. For the introverts and lurkers out there, its a very casual, low-key, and FUN affair. I have been to a bunch of these around the country, and can honestly say nobody comes away thinking it wasn't a great time. Some people mingle and others don't. If hiding behind a plant in the corner and just observing is your thing, have at it! If dancing naked on a folding chair with Cheetos stuck in your nose is how you like to roll, you can do that too! You can be as involved or as barely involved as you like. I swear you will enjoy yourself, and if you don't believe me, which is always smart, you can completely believe bluebell!

Don't be a sad, sad loser, and miss an evening of food, drink, laughs and valuable prizes! Register today!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Ya got me.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 07:02 PM (Hg4NE)

2 boo!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 07:03 PM (UUBmN)

3 I should do a similar parts breakdown of Pop's 1911 (made in 191 that he used to shoot Nazis in Italy with.

Sitting in the case behind my left shoulder right now. I should probably clean it soon.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 16, 2020 07:04 PM (9V81o)

4 Wounded burglar: "Aren't ya gonna call the cops?"
Me: "Why? No one else knows you're here."


"Now put on this ball gag if you want to keep breathing, and we'll take a nice little trip to Mexico. Where's my shovel?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 07:05 PM (L2ZTs)

5 Walking Dude, nice looking 1911 there. Will you be taking it out to the range next?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:05 PM (uyKdz)

6 Slacking today

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 07:06 PM (ZCEU2)

7 Someone asked last week for more detail on the quail hunting trip I took last weekend.

We were hunting just south of the Red River near Wichita Falls, Texas. I had a side by side 12 gauge and junior had a side by side 20. Our guide brought his dogs, a pointer and a retriever. The pointer was a German Shorthair and the retriever was a Pudelpointer. The area where we were hunting is periodically seeded with quail raised with limited human contact, so they retain most of their instinct, and mix well with the limited number of wild birds in the area.

The hunt began with a safety briefing, especially important since the youngster had never hunted quail, and might be prone to getting over anxious. Quail hunting is more fast paced than many other hunts. Often, one will not go more than five or ten minutes between opportunities to shoot, and the birds often form coveys of up to a dozen birds. Once they break into flight, they take off in every direction at once, and once airborne give the hunter only a brief opportunity for a shot.

As we strolled through the field, the pointer would move back and forth across our direction of travel, moving left to right and back to cover all of the hunters, like a destroyer screen searching for submarines. Each time he would pick up a scent, his path would narrow until he was directly downwind of a target. He would creep forward and then point. We would move into position behind him, and the the retriever would be loosed to flush the birds. As they broke, each shooter would cover any birds flying in his zone, left, right, or center. We found single birds, doubles, and several large conveys.

After walking a total of eight and a half miles and leaving the dogs happy but exhausted, we ended up with 14 quail. After breasting them and putting them on ice, we headed home, where we grilled them with a rub, and wrapping them in bacon. Junior was pleased to have successfully put food on the table, and I was proud of him for being not only succesful, but a responsible hunter. He bagged nearly half of our haul.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (Idr1T)

8 Anyone have any thoughts on that finish on the 1911? It looks like it was redone, but I am on my phone and can't really tell...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 16, 2020 07:08 PM (lUUUj)

9 Probably an arsenal refinish. I think that what Walking Dude said.

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:09 PM (CQjeG)

10 Wow, that 1911 is sweet!

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (aS1PU)

11 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)

12 Hey Weasel! Cannibal Bob and I are registered for the NoVaMoMe! Super excited to spend time with our friends in the gray boxes. 2020-the year of the MoMe's for casa Cannibal!

Posted by: Heidi at February 16, 2020 07:11 PM (Orx/W)

13 Neon Madman, That is one sweet target shot with one sweet revolver. I wouldn't trade my K-38 Masterpiece for anything. The Model 10 would go first.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:11 PM (7EjX1)

14 7 ... Vashta, Thanks for the quail hunt story. It must be extra special to share a hunt like that with your son.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:15 PM (7EjX1)

15 12 Hey Weasel! Cannibal Bob and I are registered for the NoVaMoMe! Super excited to spend time with our friends in the gray boxes. 2020-the year of the MoMe's for casa Cannibal!
Posted by: Heidi at February 16, 2020 07:11 PM (Orx/W
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Howdy Heidi! I was really excited to see your registration come through. Can't wait to meet you both!

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:15 PM (CQjeG)

16 Got a question for y'all. If, for whatever reason, you could only have a .22LR as your home defense weapon, what ammo would you choose? A solid for penetration, a frangible for soft tissue damage, or a hollow point to split the difference?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (nUH2t)

17 Howdy Horde! One of these came in the mail this week.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/snratg9 Looks good for the price. It's going with my polymer 80 not-yet-a-receiver. If your interested, they have 9 left

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (gMngZ)

18 I have never heard of flavoring boiled peanuts by casting "aspersions" on them.

Is that one of them new-fangled spices?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:17 PM (tkyK5)

19 Bob,

Don't know the legality of it up in your neck of the woods, but I personally want to shoot a deer with an HP 22LR to observe the actual effects.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:19 PM (tkyK5)

20 That CMP 45 acp looks a lot better than I expected. They must have put some good work into them. It sure shows on the last Garand I got from them. Essentially, it was all new except for the receiver and carefully assembled. Compared to new rifle prices it was a bargain.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (7EjX1)

21 Gotta love the CMP. Ordered an M1 from them years ago, ended up with a Danish lend-lease Garand. Miss-matched wood (beech wood stock), but had a new chrome-lined danish barrel, dated 1968. My favorite rifle, and a tack driver, too.

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (U2zca)

22 That surplus 1911 is pretty cool
I had a 1991A1 some years ago and traded it in for something else
now I want one again cuz it's such a classic gun

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (iTXRQ)

23 18 I have never heard of flavoring boiled peanuts by casting "aspersions" on them.

Is that one of them new-fangled spices?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:17 PM (tkyK5)
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Granny's recipe.

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:21 PM (CQjeG)

24 Ok, update on the rifle purchase.The FFL received the rifle on Tuesday and called to let me know he had it. (little did he know I was tracking that sucker all the way and knew exactly when he received it). :-DAs I had a full weeks work I was not able to go until yesterday to see the rifle and get my NICS check and fill out all the paperwork necessary for a NYC resident to own a rifle.I also brought the scope I had purchased for the gunsmith to mount on the rifle. I agonized what scope to put on this rifle as I made an impulse buy of a Vortex Strike Eagle 4-24x50 scope. I eventually decided to put the Nikon Prostaff P5 4-16x42 that I had purchased the previous week. I am saving the Vortex for another rifle I have my eye.I also purchased a hard case, a 5 round Mag (it is illegal to have a 10 round rifle mag in NYC) to replace the 10 round Mag that tragically was lost when my car went over one of the bridges heading to Jones Beach.
So after all is said I done I have left the rifle to have the scope mounted and I should be picking it up later this week. When I will be able to take it out to the range is anyone's guess. Not a fan of being at the range on cold, dreary days. I will keep you posted.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:22 PM (uyKdz)

25 Nice get, TWD! I'm envious!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 07:23 PM (NWiLs)

26 . The NoVaMoMe, a Weaselbell Production, is pretty much the social event of the season, and one you simply cannot afford to miss!

Will there be a cotillion?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: J. Random Moron at February 16, 2020 07:23 PM (El0Ll)

27 1, in addition to the marksmanship medal for rifle which is a musket in a long blue box with a wreath

The comment in the article as copied above describes the Combat Infantryman Badge which is only rewarded to someone in actual combat with and enemy.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (WffSE)

28 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)

Weasel, what happens in the cooking thread stays in the cooking thread. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (uyKdz)

29 Collectors Firearms in Houston, which I think is well known nationally, is going to relocate to a recently closed super Barnes and Nobles building.

Thats a lot of square feet to fill with guns. Me likey.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 07:27 PM (2DOZq)

30 16 ... "Got a question for y'all. If, for whatever reason, you could only have a .22LR as your home defense weapon, what ammo would you choose? A solid for penetration, a frangible for soft tissue damage, or a hollow point to split the difference?"

Bob, If it's an automatic, use whatever feeds the most reliably. If it's a revolver, preferably a 9 or 10 shot, you would have to test the ammo to see which produces the damage you want. Since I only use 22s for plinking and accuracy, I never gave thought to the damage the round does.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:29 PM (7EjX1)

31 What the SarMaj said about the CIB. And TWDs dad earned it

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 07:30 PM (gMngZ)

32 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (Idr1T)

A quail hunt is on my bucket list. My pointer bitch turned 5 yesterday.

Posted by: clutch at February 16, 2020 07:32 PM (9UmRs)

33 Very nice-looking 1911A1, The Walking Dude!

I am in the running for one of those, but my lottery number is 17 thousand-something. I'm in the last 4 or 5 hundred. I believe they are up to 11 thousand-something, maybe in the 12 thousands now. I hope they don't run out of pistols before they get to my number.

A pre-Range report: Going tomorrow.

Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2020 07:32 PM (AMIL/)

34 Range report: Shot Steel Challenge yesterday.

If one shoots perfectly, a total 195 rounds will be shot.

If one shoots less than perfectly, such as someone like myself, round count will be just a tad higher.

Okay, maybe a tad and smidgen higher.

Good time, but, more importantly, quality time was spent with the sidearm.

Sig 1911 shooting 230 grain FMJ, if anyone is interested.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (WEBkv)

35 .22 lr for defense? Use a 40 grain high velocity solid. You want penetration, as you have little "stopping power".

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (U2zca)

36 Collectors Firearms in Houston, which I think is well known nationally, is going to relocate to a recently closed super Barnes and Nobles building.

Thats a lot of square feet to fill with guns. Me likey.

I thought Amazon was going to put ALL of the brick and mortar retailers out of business.

Are you trying to tell me that they still haven't figured out how to download an AR-10 to my Kindle?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (tkyK5)

37 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?

Posted by: Weasel

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I was amazed to find out boiled peanuts are soft when you eat them.. and commented on WTF is wrong with you Southerners!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 16, 2020 07:35 PM (CjFDo)

38 1911A1 .Nice. I have a Auto Ordnance 1980's made. Looks like it was used every day in WWII but still goes bang. I am jealous, but the problem for The Walking Dude is that his CMP one is so nice he may not bring himself to fire it.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 16, 2020 07:36 PM (bgJ0E)

39 Gub thread gainz thread.

I had trouble finding a good concealed carry situation. Mainly worked with belly bands and elastic band shoulder holster. I had settled on the last but it was an "eh" sort of answer. It worked well enough.

But well enough wasn't quite good enough so I ended up not carrying more often than not.

So among the things I did at Christmas was go very low carb and I shed about 15 lbs which was good. And, I got a better belly band, neoprene rather than elastic.

With reduced Dunlop and the better belly band (not expensive, $20), I find that carry is a lot more comfortable.



Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:36 PM (ZfRYq)

40 That CMP 45 acp looks a lot better than I expected. They must have put some good work into them. It sure shows on the last Garand I got from them. Essentially, it was all new except for the receiver and carefully assembled. Compared to new rifle prices it was a bargain.
Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (7EjX1)
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I have both a CMP purchased refurbished M1 and an M1 I had CMP refurbish.

Both rifles look great, even though I've put a few hundred rounds through both.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:36 PM (WEBkv)

41 I am in the running for one of those, but my lottery number is 17 thousand-something. I'm in the last 4 or 5 hundred. I believe they are up to 11 thousand-something, maybe in the 12 thousands now. I hope they don't run out of pistols before they get to my number.

I bet if your father was a Senator with Biden as a surname, then you could easily improve your lottery number!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:37 PM (tkyK5)

42 Oddly enough, membership in the VFW will qualify one for using the CMP offerings.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 07:37 PM (tT0V4)

43 OT: A friend told me of his youtube channel. It is acoustic guitar, and I think he is very good. I have known him for years and I never knew this until today. Here he is.


https://tinyurl.com/sh42odm

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at February 16, 2020 07:39 PM (VpCKZ)

44 I tried to quote two previous comments, but my html tags failed to italicize the quotes.

Can anyone help out an old "Idiot" on the correct protocol?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:41 PM (tkyK5)

45 For those who want one of the CMP 45ACPs but don't luck out, check out the Rock Island GI series 1911. The look and function is the same and I read that many of the parts interchange with Colt made surplus 1911s. Mine has been reliable and damn accurate. I'm mostly a revolver guy but the RIA 1911 is a lot of fun.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:43 PM (7EjX1)

46 Gubs!

Thanks, Mr. Weasel.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 07:44 PM (1CjJc)

47 In 1911, I took a pistol off a fella by the name of Cornpop who was talking a bunch of malarkey. True story. My hand as a Biden. Not the one I use to touch little girls without their consent. The other one.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 16, 2020 07:44 PM (H5knJ)

48 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:41 PM (tkyK5)

You have to be careful about punctuation marks, some are not Pixy Compliant. When you see "black diamonds" in a quote then you know what is wrong.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at February 16, 2020 07:45 PM (VpCKZ)

49
I tried to quote two previous comments, but my html tags failed to italicize the quotes.


Just copy and paste from a Word document.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 07:45 PM (ykID5)

50 Jeez, 1911s and CMP in one post. "These are a few of my favorite things."
Ya hit the sweet spot, boss

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 07:47 PM (Lw60G)

51 The Remington Rand 1911 was the first 1911 I ever fired, boot camp 1968. On other CMP stuff, you gub people have near bout talked me into buying a M1. Damnit.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (UUkQp)

52 As usual, most excellent thread, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (WEBkv)

53 Thanks, deplorable.

I should have know there was a workaround.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (tkyK5)

54 >Just copy and paste from a Word document.
Posted by: deplorable unperson


so if I compose my comment in word, with italics or whatever, it will paste in here without crashing the blog?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (iTXRQ)

55 Smith and Wesson made some of the best revolvers ever.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (6rS3m)

56 Very nice pick up on that 1911 from the CMP.

Hopefully we will see M9's, M-14s and M16A1-3's and M4's down the road soon.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (Z+IKu)

57 Argh, my "Thanks, deplorable." was in italics in the word document. Still didn't come through.

I will STFU and quit stomping on the gun thread.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM (tkyK5)

58
Hopefully we will see M9's, M-14s and M16A1-3's and M4's down the road soon.

A man can dream.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (Z+IKu)
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BAR.

The military must have one or a dozen collecting dust somewhere...

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

59 S&W .357 was my first gub purchase.

I need to take her out more often.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (PkVlr)

60 Neon Madman delivered one hell of a cluster. Don't mess with him or he will definitely put a hole through you.

Range time! A fortnight ago I hit my beloved Top Gun Range in Houston and fired 549 rounds with my G26, Beretta 92 FS, and the beloved Sig P226 TacOps. (It was supposed to be 550 rounds but one round was a dud; I checked the back and the firing pin from the Beretta could not strike the casing any harder. Clearly there was an issue with the powder. Not enough perhaps to get the thing to go "boom"?)

As much as I love my Sig, I noticed two key problems with it: for some reason a screw came out of the handle on the left side, and the lime-green fiber optic piece that makes up the front sight was long gone. Fortunately, as I was staying in Galveston, I met Jim (he of the Sunk New Dawn) and his better half the night previous. (A gentleman and a scholar, he.) He recommended Collector's Firearms as a must-see place, and I tool his advice. I'm glad I did, because I asked if they could look at my Sig as they had gunsmiths on site. They did so, and revived the Sig to its original form. (I decided on a red fiber optic sight this time instead of the lime-green; I'll have to try this out on the range at some point. I figure that if I use a red dot in a M4 scope, I can use a red dot on the front sight of the Sig.)

And while at Collector's Firearms I looked through their selection of firearms, which is extensive, to say the least. While they were working on the Sig I was window shopping their selection, which again is extensive. So much so that I suspect this is why they will soon move to a new location in Houston that is not terribly far from their present location.

Eventually, I want to hit a range at minimum once a month. But my employment situation will need to be upgraded. Working on that.

(I'll bitch about TSA later - actually if I get a moment I will send a lengthy e-mail to Weasel about it for it could be good fodder for discussion.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (ZSGV5)

61 Beautiful Example on the 1911 A-1.
Been banging Steel like a wild man getting ready for my Gunsight Long Range rifle course in April.

Posted by: DBCooper at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (bttOm)

62 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?
Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)


Sorry, but eating boiled peanuts is like eating hot, hard snot in my experience.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (a4ua0)

63 Just copy and paste from a Word document.
Posted by: deplorable unperson


Teh Barrel is using socks now?

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 16, 2020 07:53 PM (6+cih)

64
I second the Rock Island GI series 1911; outstanding pistol for the money

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2020 07:53 PM (bu7Fg)

65 Herself wants an early dinner tonight, so, at best, i'll be in and out for now...

great poast though!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (SL3Nf)

66 When I was stationed in Greece in 1989 my unit was among the last in the active Army (non SF) issued the 1911.

My issue pistol was a bit rattly. If I recall correctly it had been a Korean War built pistol.






Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

67 Italics Tags

[ i] your text here [ /i]

(remove spaces)

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ykID5)

68 62 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?
Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)

Sorry, but eating boiled peanuts is like eating hot, hard snot in my experience.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (a4ua0)

I was too busy chowing down on cashews to notice. Cashews are my drug of choice, and like drugs, they are addictive and expensive.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZSGV5)

69 How many auto pistols have an operating rod running through the middle of the main slide spring?

I am working on a Chinese Mystery Pistol which is basically a handmade copy of an FN model 1900, as illustrated here:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/weua3e7

but chambered in .30 Mauser instead of .32 ACP. Loading an empty .30 cartridge with a live primer, it will not strike the primer hard enough to fire it, although it does leave a dimple. When the spring is installed, and the slide not present, the spring seems to bulge out sideways, and is slightly polished from where it has made contact with the bore in the slide. I am wondering if this friction is slowing the expansion of the spring, and making the striker hit too feeble?

Would a spring with smaller O.D. work better, maybe?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 07:55 PM (LxWV7)

70 Thanks!

I was using carats.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:55 PM (tkyK5)

71 Damn, getting hungry now. Might be time for a late dinner.Be back in a few folks.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:56 PM (uyKdz)

72 I had a (not CMP) 1911 Colt and loved it. #4 son asked to trade for it so I did and still have access to the weapon.

I did pick up a Springfield Armory CMP M1 eons ago - it had mismatched wood so I corrected that. Great shooter and loads of fun.

I'll bring her to TX as she would be PO'd if I didn't.

No range time this week.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (Y4EXg)

73 Weasel, finally got to bottom (late again) and was pleased to see Panteo Sportsman's Club. Was unaware of them and to think it's right there in Lexington County where I was born and raised.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (UUkQp)

74 I don't know if it's just our local store but The nearby Cabelas doesn't have a brick of primers, any size or brand, on the shelves. I was planning to get a few without the cost of Hazmat. No dice. I'm not aware of any general shortages of components so maybe they just can't keep the primers on the shelves. They did have brass, powders and bullets.

Lesson: Plan ahead to get components when possible. I don't actually need primers right now so it isn't important. This time.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (7EjX1)

75 66 When I was stationed in Greece in 1989 my unit was among the last in the active Army (non SF) issued the 1911.

My issue pistol was a bit rattly. If I recall correctly it had been a Korean War built pistol.






Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

To this day whenever I report to the range in the AF to shoot the M9, I hear people bitching about the M9 and how we should have never dumped the 1911. (I like the M9; I don't see the reason for the fuss.)

I wonder what the timetable for the rollout of the M17 is? That way I can plan on getting one of them for practice. This is why the Beretta was my first gun purchase - for practice in between range sessions in the AF.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (ZSGV5)

76 Posted by: Sergeant Major at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (WffSE)


Yeah, what he said.
(Back to reading the content.)

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 07:58 PM (LNiBi)

77 Meh, I'm holding out for the Cabot Meteorite 1911

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vvdw9k6

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 07:59 PM (KZzsI)

78 I didn't think Walking Dude needed a 1911 because he can get enough help from Captain Trips.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 08:01 PM (ZSGV5)

79 BAR.
The military must have one or a dozen collecting dust somewhere...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

Ooooo...good one. I bet there are a few collecting dust somewhere and they need to be liberated ASAP!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 08:02 PM (Z+IKu)

80 And I do so love my Rock Island 1911.

She's purdy and pulverizes the center of the target all by herself.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 08:02 PM (PkVlr)

81 Argh, my "Thanks, deplorable." was in italics in the word document. Still didn't come through.

I will STFU and quit stomping on the gun thread.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM


If you want to italicize something, perhaps like "Thanks, deplorable.", put an [ i ] (without the space before or after the i), in front, AND a [ /i ] (again, without the two spaces) after what you'd like italicized.

Failure to do the latter will result in a trip to The Barrel.

You DO NOT want to go to The Barrel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 08:03 PM (DMUuz)

82 Got a question for y'all. If, for whatever reason, you could only have a .22LR as your home defense weapon, what ammo would you choose? A solid for penetration, a frangible for soft tissue damage, or a hollow point to split the difference?

Bob, look up some of the gel tests with hollow points. I have seen 22LR shot from a 2" barrel that did not expand at all due to the lower velocity. Penetration was up to 11".

Of course, "it depends" is usually the correct firearms answer. You should be able to find some tests by a gun geek that are a pretty close match to the weapon you would be using.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:04 PM (tkyK5)

83 OT: Lion in Winter just starting on TCM. One of my favorites. Fun Trivia - first feature movie for BOTH Timothy Dalton and Anthony Hopkins.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 08:04 PM (V2Yro)

84 Meh, I'm holding out for the Cabot Meteorite 1911

Wonder how many 1911s they could get by melting down the Muzzy Mecca rock at Kaaba?

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:04 PM (ykID5)

85 Range report. Project bedding gun in .30-'06.
Not a fair test. 17 degrees, rusty operator, poor use of lead sled, etc. All operator error. 12 rounds rushed. One group of three had a single hole and one flyer.
But the bedding looks liked it set and worked well.
A new skill for the upcoming 6.5. This week!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:05 PM (Lw60G)

86 "People have a right to be safe on their own property, but people also
probably shouldn't locate near a shooting range if they don't like the
sound of gunfire."

We have a similar problem related air bases: people move in close to a military airbase (Air Force or Navy, usually) then complain about the constant noise over their houses. Didn't used to be a problem for a couple of reasons, but one was all the exclusion zones around the bases (and a LOT of airports) have been built into over the decades.
We had a spate of it about 10+ years ago in the Virginia Beach area. (Interestingly, about the same time the whole "poor Puerto Rican island is being bombed!" kerfuffle was ongoing.)

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:05 PM (LNiBi)

87 Oh, and really sweet pistol, The Walking Dude!
I got barrel envy.

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (LNiBi)

88 Wonder how many 1911s they could get by melting down the Muzzy Mecca rock at Kaaba?
Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper

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Uh, none?

As the material will be too radioactive for years to use.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (Y4EXg)

89 Me wanty .45 but I doubt I'd be lucky enough. Tried to get M1 beginning in 2002 from CMP. No luck

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 08:07 PM (pw+jk)

90 Fun Trivia - first feature movie for BOTH Timothy Dalton and Anthony Hopkins.

Ton of talent in that one. Great script, you couldn't really go wrong.

Wonder how many 1911s they could get by melting down the Muzzy Mecca rock at Kaaba?

ITs pretty big, probably can carve that baby up into a bunch of frames with a water cutter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 08:08 PM (KZzsI)

91 Thanks for the advice about The Barrel.

(I am usually a lurker!)

So you're telling me The Barrel is not a local pub where AOS morons go to drink cheap scotch and tell good stories, and then afterwards roust a few hobos lying on the sidewalk?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (tkyK5)

92 Uh, none?

As the material will be too radioactive for years to use.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (Y4EXg)

Actually, iron itself cannot become radioactive. It's about the most stable atomic nucleus out there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (LxWV7)

93 what ammo would you choose?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (nUH2t)


A LOT of it! I'd make sure the weapon had large mags (most older .22s do) and I had loads of spares to keep shooting.

Oh, and I might make sure I had two of them. I have 2 hands, after all.

(If you get, say, 10% with decent penetration and expansion, then throwing 50 rounds at the guy as fast as you can pull triggers is going to get you 5 good hits.)

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:10 PM (LNiBi)

94 92 Uh, none?

As the material will be too radioactive for years to use.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (Y4EXg)

Actually, iron itself cannot become radioactive. It's about the most stable atomic nucleus out there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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The stuff you learn here!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:10 PM (Y4EXg)

95 On the plus side, my workbench report is better: ordered and received F.A.T. wrench (torque screwdriver) and reset scope with loktite and used a level, of all things. Yep, project rifle was slightly off.
Gotta reduce all the variables . . .

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:11 PM (Lw60G)

96 BIL was there when they switched to the M9. He said it was to comply with UN and the 1911 was going to storage because ...deep affection.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (Hg4NE)

97 Actually, iron itself cannot become radioactive. It's about the most stable atomic nucleus out there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (LxWV7)


It will, however, be highly adulterated.

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (LNiBi)

98 RI Red,

What MOA did the project rifle shoot before?

What MOA are you trying to attain?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (tkyK5)

99 Most meteorites are mostly iron so yeah, pretty safe at least on the inside. Cobalt, nickle that kind of thing mixed in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (KZzsI)

100 Long time Lurker, very, very occasional commenter here. I wanted to weigh in on the CMP. Short version: support and interact with them whenever possible!
A good friend said to me over 20 years ago that one of the best days of his life was the day a FedEx guy showed up to deliver his Garand. It took me years, but I finally got organized with my son, got the paperwork together and we each ordered ours. Delivery was one of the best days of our lives!
Better, though, has been taking the long trip from Tejas to Alabama to go to the armory and store. On my 3rd trip, last December, I arrived at 8 am and with 13 people in front of me when the door was unlocked. They had probably 40 Garands (and several 1903 and 1917s that they don't advertise). There were 2 serviced but all original Garands on the rack. Fun morning. I hauled back 2. And match ammo was on sale with a gun purchase!

Another lottery thing: their Advanced Maintenance Class. Well worth doing. You get to assemble and fine-tune your own Garand. Another 3 great days in my life.

Posted by: OSL at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (wNww/)

101 Flash Email Traffic: Temporary Sale - 1000 Rounds - 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ M193 IMI Ammo Made by Israel Military Industries

$289.50 + $16.00 shipping + state sales tax

http://bit.ly/37vrZOY

5 in stock at the time I post. M16A1 food.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (yQpMk)

102 So you're telling me The Barrel is not a
local pub where AOS morons go to drink cheap scotch and tell good
stories, and then afterwards roust a few hobos lying on the sidewalk?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (tkyK5)


Well...it is a little bit more complicated, and horrifying, than that...

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (VpCKZ)

103 Catch Thirty Thr33 @ 75- I own all three, 1911, M9, and M17. Prefer the 1911, especially as mine is a Sig TacOps.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (UUkQp)

104 I apologize for being late to the gun thread, but I have another question for the Horde: I live in Harris County (Houston) Texas (rapidly going blue) and have a registered Mossberg 30.06 in my name that I gave to my son on his 30th birthday (30.06, close enough; I'll get him a .30-30 when he's 60 if I'm still around!). My son lives in deep blue Travis County (Austin) so he does not yet show up on any registration lists.

What does the horde recommend for a handgun for me in Harris County? I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions. Thank you in advance.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (ZD+J8)

105 Watching Harriet right now. You know, Black History Month.

I don't remember being taught that she escaped from...Maryland.

She carries a flintlock pistol. On topic.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:16 PM (ZfRYq)

106 Pillage Idiot, I was occasionally able to do .5 and .75 inch groups at 100 yds, with my best handloads. I wanted to get more repeatable accuracy. Still in project learning mode, but not bad for a Savage Axis.
Weasel has a report with pictures that he may be able to fit in some time.
But it's really a tryout for my Ruger American Predator in 6.5, which my gun guy swears will be here soon.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:17 PM (Lw60G)

107 I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions.
Posted by: jayhawkone

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What is the intended use of your new friend?

I like the CZ full size frames (75 Series) but that is just me.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (Y4EXg)

108 Watching Harriet right now. You know, Black History Month.


I liked that movie. They did a good job of plain-ing up the actress but still didn't do Harriet justice as she was, as someone put it at the time, unfortunate in appearance.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (yQpMk)

109 Catch Thirty-Thr33 _ IDK what the yung'uns in what used to be my Air Force are talking about when they say 1911. Before we went to the M-9, I was issued S&W Model 15 .38 spl. Frankly, I LIKE the M-9. I bought one as soon as I got out

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (gMngZ)

110 jayhawkone, you need to get ahold of Jim SND. He's not that far from you and would give you an opportunity to try several different weapons and a wealth of knowledge.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (CKxoR)

111 Another lottery thing: their Advanced Maintenance Class. Well worth doing. You get to assemble and fine-tune your own Garand. Another 3 great days in my life.

This actually interests me more than shooting. Arnold Schwarzenegger studied stripping, cleaning, and reassembling the guns he was to use in Terminator for months, until he could do so not only without looking, but with mechanical precision, robotic, even.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (KZzsI)

112 What does the word registered mean?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 08:19 PM (Hg4NE)

113 Thanks Tonypete: I think just range shooting but home defense is always in the back of my and my family's mind.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:19 PM (ZD+J8)

114 I finally did my indepth analysis of Virginia HB 961 (the assault firearms bill) and found that some of my earlier more cursory analysis was, well, wrong. They got tricky with the way they structured it. I know, surprise, surprise.

I think I will write it up and send it weasel and he can include it in the next gub thread or not.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:20 PM (ZfRYq)

115 Jayhawkone - as suggested up thread - try everything you can get your hands on. For me at least, hand fit and feel is very important and you will not know that until you hold 'em and use them. Good luck.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:21 PM (Y4EXg)

116 What does the horde recommend for a handgun for me in Harris County? I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions. Thank you in advance.

Do you have a gun range nearby that rents pistols? If so, go shoot 'em all.

The variables for each person matter a lot. Take your son, take your wife too.

I got my wife a S&W 9mm for Christmas, but she has not yet been out to the range!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:21 PM (tkyK5)

117 Need to get out to the range again with my G26 and my S&W Model 5906. The Glock is ok, but I much prefer the S&W. But it's basically too big for CCW...prints too much unless I use a "Sticky holster." Then it's a pita when driving and really uncomfortable. But then again, it's 15+1 and the Glock is only 10+1.

Our range is an outdoor 100 yd range, but someone is building a brand new gun shop with an indoor range close to Clemson University, about 10 miles from the house.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 08:22 PM (a4ua0)

118 Grump, you are an excellent shopper! That is a skill I respect and admire.

Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2020 08:22 PM (87gB3)

119 What does the horde recommend for a handgun for me in Harris County? I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions. Thank you in advance.
Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (ZD+J


Concealed carry, nightstand full-size, whut?

Get a Sig can't go wrong. They got something in all the slots.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:23 PM (ZfRYq)

120 BTW, Walking Dude, nice score. I love CMP. I got an M-1 manufactured in March, 1945 and can imagine it might have gone off to the Japan invasion it we hadn't toasted their own mecca rocks.
Saweet shooter. Even with my 29 yo eyes, I can iron sight the 300 yd gong and make it ring.
Like Patton said, "The finest battle rifle . . ."

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:25 PM (Lw60G)

121 I carried an Army .45 on several occasions. Don't remember them being parkerized.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 16, 2020 08:25 PM (f4xAl)

122 No range report.
Working on restoring Lithgow wwII era no 1, mk 3 to firing status. Finally obtained a lebel forend for another restore, and picked up an Mas 36 adjustable rear sight used in frg Mas 36 French af rifle.

Natchez shooters supply has good prices on .223 and 5.56 ball ammo about 290 per 1000.

Should finally spend some quality revolver time at range this week.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:25 PM (EUDB2)

123 Thank you all for your comments. Athena has a range close by me that I believe rents weapons that my wife and I will try out. I always enjoy Jim New Dawn's posts from Galveston and hope to meet him soon. Ben Had, may I get on the invite list for the next Texas MoMe? I will travel across state to attend! I have no friends other than the Horde.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:26 PM (ZD+J8)

124 @5 Scuba Dude- I am ordering a wolf spring kit and a Shok Buff (elastomeric buffer) that prevents the slide from hammering into the frame. Those WWII frames were spot heat treated and prone to cracking ergo the extra care since its a piece of history.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (cCxiu)

125 Since exciting new offerings from the CMP are so damn dramatic, we get a tendency to think of them as just a wonderful government gun store. That misses most of what they do over there.
In 1903, T.R. prevailed on the military authorities to set up the Board for the Promotion of Civilian Rifle Practice. If you hear old-timers talk about the good old days when rifles and ammo were provided more or less free of charge, you'll be hearing about them. The Director of Civilian Marksmanship was the heir to that, and the downside of all this government involvement was that the various state "Rifle and Pistol Associations" and the NRA lulled themselves into thinking that their main function was to keep records.

Slowly, slowly after WWII, NRA put together a structure for running regional and national championship matches in smallbore and high-power, but they absolutely hated it, since it cost a lot to do and the fees and dues did not cover it. The Olympic movement made things worse, since there were two sets of qualifying procedures, two sets of rules and targets, and Olmpians are a royal pain in the ass (I have a couple in the family).

NRA has never done anything in national competition but try to get out of the responsibility for putting them on. This has caused a very great deal of ill feeling about the NRA, because when you first join, or first start shooting, it just seems like the most natural thing in the world that they should be the national sanctioning body, and just naturally be in charge of fostering enthusiasm, paying for training and athletic developmet, and hanging targets. NRA would like to know how they make money on this.

So, along came the Clinton admin and the "end of history." Billy Jeff actually sent an Asst. SecDef up The Hill to testify to Congress that personal marksmanship skill was no longer required for the defense of the nation. Army was ordered to spin off all the offices and support procedures that had partially set up and supplied national matches. The DCM was to be shut down.

But those matches at Camp Perry (and by extension, the military and Olympic matches at Benning) were producing quite a lot of revenue, for shooting supply vendors, a few hotels and restaurants, and the post office at Lacarne. Enter the least likely gun advocate in the US, Dem Rep Marcy Kaptur, a one-time nunnery pledge and city planner. Unwilling to see several million in tourism revenue (and several thousand votes) just vanish, she campaigned stoutly to set up the CMP as it now stands, in charge of putting on training and matches, funded by surplus sales. She votes for every damn gun ban the Party demands, and yet you would not be getting those sweet-sweet carbines without her.
NRA is almost, not-quite out of the smallbore match business. The new ASSA and CMP have taken up all the slack, and the scene is a mess. CMP is trying hard, and doing pretty well, in establishing high-school and collegiate air rifle to take over the space that, 50 years ago, smallbore rifle clubs filled. The "World Series of Shooting" scene that used to be Camp Perry is shot for good. There are still some nice CMP matches there. The NRA show is at Atterbury -- and I count this as the 4th time the various nattering NRA out-groups have tried to find the "perfect" place to move the National Matches.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (8IOEj)

126 Also got a thousand rounds of Greek ammo for 50 cents a round. 1960s, I think; always goes bang. Still working through it.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (Lw60G)

127 And now, while listening to the droning of lectures online and occasionally checking in with you guys and gals, I'll be reconstituting my guns. Cleaning them one by one after their range trip a fortnight ago.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 08:28 PM (ZSGV5)

128 9mm's are like potato chips. Can't buy just one. Most popular caliber in the world. And don't hammer my tit over this, I got other calibers besides 9mm, but 9mm is the one I carry for work and for 'fun'.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 08:28 PM (UUkQp)

129 MacGyver, ditto, I was issued model 15 and then later m9 beretta.

I liked the revolver and hated the m9 because it did not fit my hand as well as the k frame.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:29 PM (EUDB2)

130 Glad to hear good things about the Rock Island GI, I just decided to buy one last week.

Posted by: ck at February 16, 2020 08:29 PM (Gf0Po)

131 RI Red,

Have fun with your Predator!

However, I thought the barrel was already floated on that one.

I do think you need to invent a "smart target" that tells you what went wrong on your ammo/rifle when you do get a flyer.

BTW, what happened to the old big game hunters in Africa when they only had time for one shot and it was a flyer? (I think I know the answer.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:30 PM (tkyK5)

132 @8 CBD- yep definitely reparked. The barrel is a govt contract post 1949 barrel and the magazine is a government contract replacement so I'm sure it was rebuilt at some point prior to storing in the arsenal. There are no rebuild stamps though. They didn't always stamp them when rebuilt.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:30 PM (cCxiu)

133 Just got here.

Dang, Walking Dude!

Apologies, didn't read the thread (whut??), but the usual questions:

* which grade is that?
* did you request a WWII gun, as is common with the M1s, via a yellow sticky note on the application?

The parkerization - hell, the whole thing - looks new/freshly re-arsenaled & never re-issued.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:30 PM (El6T/)

134 jayhawkone, Oct 23/24 in Corsicana. There will be a notice in the left side bar later on in the summer with my contact info.

We look forward to meeting you and having you join us for a lot of shooting, food and fun.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (CKxoR)

135 What does the word registered mean?

In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (nUH2t)

136 Just went to the nearby Laundromat. Ad on the bulletin board: "9 mm Marlin rifle with scope and bipod, $500". No mention made of model.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:34 PM (LxWV7)

137 Eromero, 9mikemike is great, for many reasons.

Incredibly, I own only one so far (XD "Tactical" = 5-inch barrel) - love it. CZ-75 will be next, for sure. After that, not sure.

But at the range on duty day I've been seeing some very shweet 9mm AR platforms. Thinking of building one, as light as possible. Might even be something The Boss will feel she can handle easily (she's very good with the M1 carbine).

And - going to do a new 9mm load today. 700-X. Bought it during the last "panic" as a general purpose powder because it was available, want to use it up. Always use 124g round-nose now, usually plated, but got a great deal on some FMJ, so those will be "standard" for a while.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:34 PM (El6T/)

138 Yup, Predator is already free-floated, but I'm doing pillar bedding and receiver bedding to stiffen up the plastic stock. At some point I'll spring for a great stock, but optics, rifle, tools, etc. are eating into my social security!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (Lw60G)

139 Just went to the nearby Laundromat. Ad on the bulletin board: "9 mm Marlin rifle with scope and bipod, $500". No mention made of model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February


or how many bodies are on it

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (HALdu)

140 Frankly, I LIKE the M-9. I bought one as soon as I got out



McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver



I like the M-9, too, McG. It's a solid pistol, I'll never carry one concealed (because I'm a little he-bitch and physically COULDN'T), but I think it's a fine, serviceable pistol. Picked a surplus one up years ago, re-sold it for a CZ-75 (which I don't regret even a little bit), but I loved my M-9 when I had one and I'd have zero issues carrying one again.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 08:36 PM (N4r5a)

141 jeez -


Two weeks ago Coronavirus was blamed on eating bats.
Last week they blamed pangolins.

Today on FOX Business - "it's the damn civet cats!!!!"

Apparently , Noah's Ark was pretty much ate up with Coronaviruses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:36 PM (ykID5)

142 What does the word registered mean?



In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (nUH2t)


Or, in the context of gun-*control* it means you have to tell Nanny Government which guns you own so they can later come looking for you for various _totally_ non-nefarious reasons.

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:37 PM (LNiBi)

143 The range where I am RO has been acquiring land all around it - I think the budget for several years (including a major improvement/re-work long in the works that will add quite a bit to the complex) has been put on ice, as every cent has gone to buying some land that has come up for sale.

Purpose - cordon sanitaire - a buffer against idiots who might want to interfere. This in a rural area, not heavily developed. BLM land on a few sides, then scattered ranches with homes on another side.

Haven't seen the latest, but last time I saw a map, the cordon was almost complete.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:37 PM (El6T/)

144 jeez -


Two weeks ago Coronavirus was blamed on eating bats.
Last week they blamed pangolins.

Today on FOX Business - "it's the damn civet cats!!!!"

Apparently , Noah's Ark was pretty much ate up with Coronaviruses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February




you are worrying too much. the public info is garbage. the chicom are lying and nothing we get is any good.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (HALdu)

145 What does the word registered mean?

In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized

I thought it meant, "A well regulated militia . . ."

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (Lw60G)

146 Side note: After two Saturdays of pistol shooting, next Saturday is, *insert trumpet fanfare* the M1 Garand High Power Match for the other club I belong to.

Much as I loathe CA, I cannot fault the access I have to shooting sports where I live.

Also, I plan to see if I can arrange for a 2 gun match in this area. Rifle/pistol.

I have to propose the match to my club, then direct it, but, worth it, if it gives me a chance to do some CQB with the Garand. Shooting the Garand being the real reason I plan suggest our club host a match.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (WEBkv)

147 "9 mm Marlin rifle with scope and bipod, $500". No mention made of model.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Sounds like a Camp-9? Not a bad price, nowadays. If private sale, always the lack-of-paperwork bonus, YMMV.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (N4r5a)

148 Late to the thread, on account of the gunsmith called with the news that my Colt Lightweight Commander was ready (after 4 months! - long story) and I just picked it up. It now has Novak night sights rear and fiber optic front. I think I really, really like it.

TWD, sweet CMP 1911. I've gotten several Garands, an 03, and a carbine from them in the past. Love them all.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (zggXQ)

149 Only time I shot the M9 was at the factory in MD, brand new piece just off the line. Way back when, shortly after production started there. Also doesn't fit my hand well.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:39 PM (El6T/)

150 you are worrying too much. the public info is garbage.

And once again , you fail to accurately interpret my scorn.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:40 PM (ykID5)

151 you are worrying too much. the public info is garbage.

And once again , you fail to accurately interpret my scorn.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February


have I done this before?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:40 PM (HALdu)

152 When I was stationed in Greece in 1989 my unit was among the last in the active Army (non SF) issued the 1911.



My issue pistol was a bit rattly. If I recall correctly it had been a Korean War built pistol.


Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

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LOL, my unit at the time, HHT 1/18th Cav, had 1911's until the very late 90's. i may be one of the last people to have ever carried one in the field in 98/99. i was the 1SG driver, but w*rked in the arms room when at home station.

Top bitched at me once that he was carrying an M-9, issued by me, and i still had a 45. i told him that he had an example to set, so he got the new pistol, and i used the privileges of rank and position to issue myself a real pistol. (i retired with 19 years, 11.5 months TIG as a SP4/E-4)

Buck, here's a toast to you. a great man, Fu*ked over by a little one at the end of your career, to cover up his mistakes and failures.

McBreaty (sp?): you're alive only because it was illegal to kill you, and i know someone who was actively contemplating it, because DeDe and i talked him out of it. i just wish i had known it was you in the full porta-potty that morning...

it would have "blown over" on you, door side down.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (SL3Nf)

153 ..I got my wife a S&W 9mm for Christmas, but she has not yet been out to the range!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:21 PM (tkyK5)



I got a Smith & Wesson Model 14 Combat Masterpiece for my ex wife.

Best trade I've ever made.


*tip the veal, try your waitress!*

(and don't never, ever piss off Neon Madman. Wow!)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (QzJWU)

154 Frequently. And with great gusto.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (ykID5)

155 blake I hope you get your 2-gun match going. I sense there's quite a quiet demand out there for such things, but the hassle of running them/inertia at gun clubs prevents very many from starting up. Because I hear talk about the topic all the time.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (El6T/)

156 or how many bodies are on it
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (HALdu)

Sounds like it might be a Marlin Camp Carbine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:42 PM (LxWV7)

157 blake, I've done the Garand High Power a couple of times and found the instruction and practice just fine. But Red Jr. outshot me. Probably a good thing.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:43 PM (Lw60G)

158 129 Whig The M15 was fine, and fit well enuff in my shoulder holster, but the M-9 for me just was a better "feel". If we were all the same this place would be boring. Now, I had to teach my driver(s)/body guard(s) in Colombia how to use my M-9 when I was in Bogota in the late 90s. They were using .38s, and totally unfamiliar with the M-9. If I wasn't able to use it I damn well wanted then to be able to pick it up as needed. Took all afternoon, but finally Ferhardo was able to get the hang of it and not shoot up the berm

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 08:43 PM (gMngZ)

159 Frequently. And with great gusto.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February



If it makes you feel better, it is nothing personal, I don't even remember commenting to you before.

Maybe you could invent a scorn tag or something to indicate it is scorn and not hysterics? emojii?

cause it comes across as hysterics.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (HALdu)

160 jayhawkone,

Since you are interested in targets and maybe HD, not concealed carry, I think the CZ 75 is the best 9mm out there. Like any semi-auto, it does have to be cleaned and lubed to maintain reliability.

If it could be a revolver (my preference) a Ruger GP100 357 or K-frame Smith, both using 38 specials, would be an excellent alternative. Either is capable of great accuracy. And I believe a double action revolver is the best home defense handgun.

But as others suggested, handle as many as possible to get a real feel for the weight and balance.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (7EjX1)

161 Started buying evil skeery gunz, and then discovered the CMP, just too late to get either an M1 carbine, or a 1903. Have since found a nice M1 carbine from a private seller - but the 1903s seemed to zoom in price after CMP sold out (well, duh). Some day. The synergies of reloading 30-06 and the quality of those rifles are compelling to me.

As long as I keep my core values and competencies aligned with the synergies, and leverage the mindspace and reach out to all stakeholders, I should be fine.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (El6T/)

162 I bet if your father was a Senator with Biden as a surname, then you could easily improve your lottery number!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot


Nope, wouldn't have made a bit of difference!

My word as a Biden!


/biden

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (N4r5a)

163 Sounds like it might be a Marlin Camp Carbine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February



Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (HALdu)

164 @133 Rhomboid, I ordered a Service grade which was the best one. They don't let you sticky for the 1911's like they do with the garands. They tell you which grades they have when your number comes up and you pick the grade.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:45 PM (cCxiu)

165 3 Days left to enter to win a Zastava M91 at Classic

https://wn.nr/JcmdKm

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:46 PM (yQpMk)

166 What does the word registered mean?



In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (nUH2t)


Or, in the context of gun-*control* it means you have to tell Nanny Government which guns you own so they can later come looking for you for various _totally_ non-nefarious reasons.
Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:37 PM


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: S&W Registered Magnum at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (DMUuz)

167 What JTB said about HD revolver.

If you can find/handle a S&W Model 66 or 19, do so. 4-inch barrel. Balance is perfect. S&W has resumed making the 66 (stainless version) as part of their Classic line - and they're not giving them away, ahemm. However, good used 66s and 19s are still out there, I think. Or even a Model 10, an earlier police side-arm standard model.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (El6T/)

168 Seal the deal @ 140- CZ75 Sp-01 or M9 for carry? Both heavy, but the CZ feels like a cross between 1911 and Hi-Power, a match made in heaven, and thus the winner. Oh, yeah. Accurate as he-double-l.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (UUkQp)

169 My first firearm purchase was a Springfield Armory GI 1911 - repro of the WWII pistol.
It is the only one I have not lost in a tragic canoing accident.

Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (hXu8T)

170 It helps to have longish fingers with the Beretta 92/M9.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:48 PM (yQpMk)

171 @126 R I Red, yep I got bit by the garand bug too. heh. I was fortunate enough to get 1 crate of HXP from CMP right before they ran out of the Greek ammo.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:48 PM (cCxiu)

172 Thanks, Walking Dude.

Love the 1911, but had no interest in the CMP ones, at least not the level of interest that made the cost and hassle seem worth it.

Your 1911 has me questioning my approach here.

Though a 1911 in 9mm was my only 1911 ambition.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:49 PM (El6T/)

173 I continue to be amazed at the value prices that Palmetto State Armory offers.

A lower shipped for $129.

With HB961 crossed over to the Virginia Senate I think stocking up is wise.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:49 PM (ZfRYq)

174 OT:

Younger son and I went to the Avalanche/Kings game at the AFA last night.

Sucks that the Av's lost. But it was a friggin' brilliant event. I could write an essay about this weekend. I won't bore y'all, but hockey fans are pretty fucking pro-America. Even the random Kings fans around us.

The Air Force acapella group singing the National Anthem while the skydivers dropped into the field gave me goosebumps.

Gawdammit, I love America!

Fucking awesome weekend. Best part? Spending time with my son.

Thanks for listening.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 08:50 PM (x8Wzq)

175 Just about shot all my HXP (going to keep a few clips - yes boys and girls, the proper term here - just for the heck of it). I reload the brass from my HXP.

For reserve I got a 500-rd can of the Prvi Partisan Garand ammo.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:50 PM (El6T/)

176 As long as I keep my core values and competencies aligned with the synergies, and leverage the mindspace and reach out to all stakeholders, I should be fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (El6T/

All good, rhomboid. Just don't double charge.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (Lw60G)

177 Baer Custom .45. As JMB (PBUH) intended. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (DMUuz)

178 blake I hope you get your 2-gun match going. I sense there's quite a quiet demand out there for such things, but the hassle of running them/inertia at gun clubs prevents very many from starting up. Because I hear talk about the topic all the time.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (El6T/)
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My plan is to come up with match that is USPSA combined with Steel Challenge with a bit of IDPA tossed in for good measure.

I've got two stages designed, in my head, already.

I want to do one where one exits a car, pistol, retreat, open trunk, get rifle, finish stage. (we have a vehicle we use for such things)

Then another will be plate racks and poppers, move around the corner, rifle in hand, CQB on IDPA targets, last shot is a popper plate, which would be the stop plate for that stage.

I want a maximum of two stages that are combo pistol rifle and the rest all pistol or all rifle. Mainly due to time constraints because the transition from pistol to rifle and vice versa is time consuming.

I'm hoping for lots of lead in a short amount of time.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (WEBkv)

179 I've a 1911 we picked up by buying out an estate back in the nineties. The owner had brought it home after Korea with the brown leather US issue shoulder holster, two mags and some extra springs. It sat in his house afterwards for forty years. Its serial number makes it a Springfield arsenal 1911 from around 1920 that was also a Springfield arsenal rebuild during WW2.

Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (O9VW1)

180 LOL, my unit at the time, HHT 1/18th Cav, had 1911's until the very late 90's. i may be one of the last people to have ever carried one in the field in 98/99. i was the 1SG driver, but w*rked in the arms room when at home station.

Top bitched at me once that he was carrying an M-9, issued by me, and i still had a 45. i told him that he had an example to set, so he got the new pistol, and i used the privileges of rank and position to issue myself a real pistol. (i retired with 19 years, 11.5 months TIG as a SP4/E-4)
...
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (SL3Nf)

That would be CARNG right?

I qualified it with active duty.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (ZfRYq)

181 I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions.

Posted by: jayhawkone



---



What is the intended use of your new friend?



I like the CZ full size frames (75 Series) but that is just me.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (Y4EXg)

==
I concur. Recoil feels like a 22LR. Accurate as I am.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (pw+jk)

182 Pug, sounds fantastic. Would love to see one of the NHL outdoor games. And at that venue, wow.

Once saw a football game there. Flyover was, well, as you'd expect, impressive (*Air Force* Academy) - and it was late 80s, height of the Cold War, we had lots of s**t to fly.

B-1 finished off the fly-over. He effed up, came in way too low - was exciting and noisy in the upper deck where we were, the pilot got in trouble, but helped make the day.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

183 CMP 1911... very impressive.

Posted by: None shall pass at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (JdcHc)

184 MacGyver, rhomboid

Due to my hand size, pretty picky about what I buy to shoot. Best feeling semi automatic pistols for me are the hi power and the Smith and Wesson mp polymer series. Close third is a Smith 3rd gen pistol in Dao.

But then again the std at grip works for me which is not true for some. Ironically, I recently got a colt new service which is huge but it has good trigger reach for me with splinter grips. .

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (EUDB2)

185 I continue to be amazed at the value prices that Palmetto State Armory offers.

I've been hearing many good things about their PSAK-47. Tempted.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 08:54 PM (DMUuz)

186 @161 Rhomboid....they have 1903's sometimes at the CMP stores (South Store is in Anniston Al, North Store is in Port Clinton OH (Camp Perry) and the Talladega Store is in Talladega Al).

One of these days I'm going to make it to one of the stores.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:55 PM (cCxiu)

187 169 My first firearm purchase was a Springfield Armory GI 1911 - repro of the WWII pistol.
It is the only one I have not lost in a tragic canoing accident.
Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (hXu8T)

Not my first, but definitely one of my best. I put fluorescent paint on the sights and it works as intended. Big fat bullet going downrange to impact target. And it's waterproof despite many canoe trips.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:55 PM (Lw60G)

188 blake, I've done the Garand High Power a couple of times and found the instruction and practice just fine. But Red Jr. outshot me. Probably a good thing.
Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:43 PM (Lw60G)
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I've been shooting High Power with a K-31. But, my eyes don't work very well with the sights on that rifle any more.

So, on to the Garand.

Darn.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 08:56 PM (WEBkv)

189 186 the walking dude, the south store is right at the new southern cmp range. That is one of the premier shooting ranges in the US and open to public.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (EUDB2)

190 Dang, blake, you're far away - I'd love to do a match like that. I'm not much for static (bullseye) matches, to put it mildly. Love action/movement matches with lots of steel.

A great steel match no longer in existence a bit north of me once had a night/Halloween shoot. Amazing. Even had an Anaheim PD cruiser - "borrowed" - from which we started one stage.

That steel match used to typically have a round count around 200-220. That's what I'm talking about. My long-time stand-by matches here locally have become pretty boring, and with round counts well under 100. For half a Saturday? Don't think so. Also far less interesting that it used to be, no moving or popper-actuated targets, lots of paper that needs to be scored (and I don't care about precision in a practical, action- oriented shoot).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (El6T/)

191 Hello Horde!

I've got a question about people's Loctite habits. I'm indecisive, and I frequently move scopes and accessories around between firearms. For this reason I usually avoid putting Loctite on anything until I'm really sure I've found the right place for something.

That worked well enough until last weekend at the range when I offered a gun for Mark and Nurse to shoot, and the gun fell apart in Mark's hands. It was quite an embarrassment!

So, here's what I'm wondering:
1) How often do y'all apply Loctite when you attach an accessory to a gun?
2) Have you ever had problems with loose screws?
3) Have you ever wanted to remove an accessory, but decided against it because of the hassle of removing Loctite?

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (f0Pv6)

192 Um, if you expose iron to neutrons - released during fission process - you radioactive cobalt.

Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 08:59 PM (hXu8T)

193
I thought it meant, "A well regulated militia . . ."

I take my Metamucil.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 08:59 PM (aKsyK)

194 TWD, sadly I'm pretty far away from either AL or OH - but have suffered reading on the CMP forums about guys scoring great buys at both stores ...... maybe some day.

Would love to do the Garand armorer's course, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:01 PM (El6T/)

195 Hey Ero...

168
Seal the deal @ 140- CZ75 Sp-01 or M9 for carry? Both heavy, but the CZ
feels like a cross between 1911 and Hi-Power, a match made in heaven,
and thus the winner. Oh, yeah. Accurate as he-double-l.


Posted by: Eromero


P-01, not SP-01.

Finest pistols I've ever owned (I purchased 2 of the 600 imported into the US with the OD Cerakote from the factory a decade ago). I will never part with them. They are sacrosanct with me.

Actually, all my CZs are sacrosanct. I've never sold a CZ. I presently own 7. Finest firearms manufacturer on the face of the planet, IMHO.

Looking to can a Evo Scorpion pistol for Mrs. Seal-the-Deal this year.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:02 PM (N4r5a)

196 @189 Whig, yep, Ive been thinking about going to that range. If I ever get out that way I will certainly give it a try. Its not too far from Texas.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 09:02 PM (cCxiu)

197 Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (El6T/)
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I'll make sure to give you plenty of advance warning, should the match come off.

It will be held on a Sunday, because it will take a couple of days to set up.

I don't expect the match to happen before September of this year, as it will take time to coordinate with club matches and the range we shoot at.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (WEBkv)

198 193
I thought it meant, "A well regulated militia . . ."

I take my Metamucil.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 08:59 PM (aKsyK)

I refer to that as my morning "constitutional".

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (Lw60G)

199 Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

Saw some F-35s fly over as we crawled along the road to the parking area. thankfully we got inside before the opening ceremonies.

I've been to a few hockey games (Avalanche, CO Eagles), so the ice, bizarrely, was farther away, but I was well able to follow the action.

Still. This was a very fun weekend.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (x8Wzq)

200 Whig, have you handled CZs? How about a CZ-83? I've raved about it before. The best naturally pointing handgun I've ever held or shot. Liked the surplus one I got from AIM so much I bought one of the last new ones when I stumbled across it in a local fun store. Pretty lucky. It was part of a final, small run done for an American distributor, after regular production had ceased (2013?).

Anyway, if you haven't, and can, try some CZs.

Speaking of which, anyone here own and shoot the CZ 75 Compact? Love how that handles.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (El6T/)

201 @194, Rhomboid, Yep I'd love to take that course and assemble my own rife. Thats on my bucket list.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 09:04 PM (cCxiu)

202 So, here's what I'm wondering:
1) How often do y'all apply Loctite when you attach an accessory to a gun?
2) Have you ever had problems with loose screws?
3) Have you ever wanted to remove an accessory, but decided against it because of the hassle of removing Loctite?
Posted by: Lazy Messenger

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I don't have accessories per se but I do loctite (blue 242) a threaded barrel end protective sleeve. I remove the protective end for normal weapon cleaning and simply reapply.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 09:04 PM (Y4EXg)

203 Lazy Messenger - what gun was that??

Have used the blue Loctite on rollerblades, a few gun items (brass bead sight on the Mossberg 500 - sucker fell off). Not hard to break it.

Seal the deal - nice. Do you have the CZ-75 compact?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:06 PM (El6T/)

204 Must be date night for Weasel.
Watch out, WD!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:09 PM (Lw60G)

205 Speaking of which, anyone here own and shoot the CZ 75 Compact? Love how that handles.

Posted by: rhomboid


Hey, rhomboid, see my comment a few up. The CZ-75 Compact and P-01 are pretty much the same...I think the Compact has steel frame and P-01 has aluminum (so weight difference), as well as P-01 has rail for light under barrel.

But...best firearm I have ever owned. First CZ I purchased. I liked it so much I purchased another. And because of them, I now own 5 other CZ firearms.

I'm just some random Moron who shows up for the thread, and I know everybody is a fanboi for their brand, but...

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:10 PM (N4r5a)

206 Nice 1911, Walking Dude.

I bid on a Remington as part of an estate sale. I bid way too low, silent, and there were others there who knew what they were bidding on.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:12 PM (1CjJc)

207 Seal the deal, no, "fan boy" is an unreasonable enthusiasm for something, sounds like yours is based on something.

I have planned to start with the CZ-75 full size. Have never handled a P-01, just the Compact (metal frame). We'll see.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:12 PM (El6T/)

208 Seal the Deal @ 195 correcto at S-01! Double Wild Turkey 101 typing here, boss!

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 09:12 PM (UUkQp)

209 Well, later all!

And, hope your evening is going well, Weasel, wherever you are!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 09:13 PM (WEBkv)

210 Rhomboid

Yes, I handled and fired a Czech 75 and liked it. Handled a cz 82 but didn't want another cartridge on hand. However, as my recent semi autos buys are for sd purposes, I carry Dao or da/sa only without safeties and recently been using a beretta compact px4 in trad da or a single stack springfield xds.

Love the Browning hi power but best way to carry is cocked and locked. I can't guarantee swiping the safety without a lot of practice so it is a range gun only.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 09:14 PM (EUDB2)

211 RI Red @ 187 - Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done!

Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 09:15 PM (hXu8T)

212 But...best firearm I have ever owned. First CZ I purchased. I liked it so much I purchased another. And because of them, I now own 5 other CZ firearms.

Posted by: Seal the deal

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First time I shot a CZ I thought, oh yeah, this is for me. I didn't have much trouble getting use to DA/SA w/o a safety. I do have a wee bit of trouble not printing when carrying the SP-01 but what the heck? It suits me.

I am updating my wardrobe to fix that issue.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 09:19 PM (Y4EXg)

213 Yeah, butch, that's me. Pretty sure they wrote a song about that.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:19 PM (Lw60G)

214 Very nice 1911 there. Clean.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:21 PM (XVuno)

215 what gun was that??
Posted by: rhomboid


Heh, I'm overstating a bit for effect. It was an AR pistol in 300BLK. It has a KAK Blade "arm brace" which is held in place by set screw, which walked loose and let the "arm brace" slide around loosely and drop off the end of the buffer tube. It also has a reflex sight with a quick-detach mount; that mount is tensioned by a set screw which also walked loose, so the quick-detach lever fell open and the sight toppled off the rail.

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at February 16, 2020 09:22 PM (f0Pv6)

216 Happy trails, y'all. Time to hit the rack and dream of boiled peanuts.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 09:23 PM (UUkQp)

217 176 As long as I keep my core values and competencies aligned with the synergies, and leverage the mindspace and reach out to all stakeholders, I should be fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (El6T/

All good, rhomboid. Just don't double charge.
Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (Lw60G)

Value billing, FTW.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:23 PM (1CjJc)

218 I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions.

Posted by: jayhawkone

Browning Hi Power. It is the QUINTessintial 9mm. Of course there are good arguments for the CZ, Glock and many others. Some have 9mm 1911's and love them. I think that is a bit weird but don't doubt they are cool to shoot.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:24 PM (n13/j)

219 So, kinda- Gun Thread issue here....

Getting close to 29 (like most of us here), starting to get...fat. My IWB holsters are becoming...a little uncomfortable.


So, without going into details nobody cares about on this thread, I'll also be detailing my "woes" and "goes" in the next GAINZYO!!! thread.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:25 PM (N4r5a)

220 Just checking in guys - thanks for being here this week, even though I wasn't around much. Have a good week and I'll go over the comments and respond as needed. Goodnight!

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 09:26 PM (cb9b5)

221 OT

From insty:

Mike Bloomberg on farmers and machinists: "You all are just too stupid for today's world"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/358512/

Tell me Mike, How stupid to you have to be to think that? How stupid do you have to be to SAY that publicly?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 16, 2020 09:26 PM (LWu6U)

222 Have a CZ83 that's a tack driver. Love to get a threaded barrel and can for it.

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 09:27 PM (B7KlG)

223 Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 09:27 PM (Y4EXg)

224 211 ..."Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done"

butch, That reminds me of one of my favorite lines:

"I may be slow but I got direction."

Seems increasingly pertinent these days.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:27 PM (7EjX1)

225 What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: S&W Registered Magnum at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (DMUuz)

This.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:28 PM (1CjJc)

226 Spoken like a true lawyer, flounder. Well, I'm taking another bar exam in a week so I'd better get my beauty rest. I'm getting too old for this scheiss.
Night, all!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:28 PM (Lw60G)

227 Thanks again, Mr. Weasel. I second weaselbell's mome sentiments. Lurkers delurk.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:29 PM (1CjJc)

228 Ive bought 1911's new and shot them until the barrels looked worse than that one from the CMP

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 09:29 PM (B7KlG)

229 That would be CARNG right?



I qualified it with active duty.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (ZfRYq)

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sorry, i forgot to throw that designator in there...

i tell people, especially nosy Fu*ks at the VA, that i wasn't really in the Army, but was instead part of the world's largest military reenactment group, since we were always 3-4 cycles behind AD and others in getting new gear.

first M-1 to hit my unit was an IP version from Korea, and i never did see a M-240 that wasn't mounted on a tank, and therefore not in my arms room.

i was a bit surprised the day i found the same Pig we took to Arkansas for the national matches back in the early 80's when i was C-3/160 INF (M) in the lockers there at Ontario. it was like old home week. oink, oink, oink!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 09:30 PM (SL3Nf)

230 Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:28 PM (Lw60G)

Cram for it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:30 PM (1CjJc)

231 Goodnight everyone. Thanks for the kind comments on the 1911. Thanks for another great gun thread Weasel.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 09:31 PM (cCxiu)

232 Thanks weasel, goodnight y'all

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 09:31 PM (EUDB2)

233 Whelp, It's time for my cold medicine to kick in! Good talking with folks, and ThanX! Weasel! for another gub thread. L8tr, All

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 09:32 PM (gMngZ)

234 CZ's are very nice, high quality and of good value. I bought the very rare CZ 75 S/A. The function of the gun was great but there were some things I didn't like so much. If I remember correctly, the upper slide was a bit small for me.

But it really comes down to personal preference. I got the CZ when what I really wanted was a BHP. Some of that is style over substance, no doubt there. Both are good guns. OF course the BHP has a small cult following and not much else. they don't make it any more. If you do look for a vintage BHP, the T and C series guns are considered the best.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (n13/j)

235
..."Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done"

Actress and left-wing activist Lena Dunham made her runway debut at London Fashion Week last week alongside traditional fashion models.

Lena Dunham, a vocal critic of President Donald Trump, walked in a show for the brand 16Arlington of which she has worn designs by in the recent past.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (aKsyK)

236 I'm so totally considering a trip to the Nova MoMe, but...my 20th Anniversary is May 6th...I'm already committed to the Epicenter 3-day Metal-Fest in Charlotte the weekend before...

I so super-wanna-go to the NoVaMoMe...if I did, rhomboid...I'd so totally bring my CZs!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (N4r5a)

237 Thanks to Weasel and all for another great gun thread. Always a nice way to end the week.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:34 PM (7EjX1)

238 There's a boiled peanut in my pants.

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at February 16, 2020 09:37 PM (EgshT)

239 CZ's are very nice, high quality and of good value. I
bought the very rare CZ 75 S/A. The function of the gun was great but
there were some things I didn't like so much. If I remember correctly,
the upper slide was a bit small for me.

...


Posted by: Quint



Good point, Quint! That was actually one of my selling points on the CZ...the slide slips INSIDE of the frame. Thus making a smaller slide. For smaller folks like myself, that IS the selling point.


Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:37 PM (N4r5a)

240 Spoken like a true lawyer, flounder. Well, I'm taking another bar exam in a week so I'd better get my beauty rest. I'm getting too old for this scheiss.
Night, all!

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"Another"? Is this like a hobby?

Word to the wise: Stamp collecting can be both exciting and educational. Just sayin'

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (XVuno)

241 236 ...
Seal the deal,

There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe. It's strictly an evening to get together and chat. The TxMoMe has all the shooting.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (7EjX1)

242 Thank you Weasel for the gun thread and to everyone who commented on my naive request for 9mm recommendations. I hope to get to Athena to rent several (hopefully they have a CZ and a Browning as previously suggested). I have a brother-in-law who lives in Trinidad close to Corsicana, so maybe we can both come to the October Texas MoMe. Thank you all!

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 09:41 PM (ZD+J8)

243 "Another"? Is this like a hobby?

Word to the wise: Stamp collecting can be both exciting and educational. Just sayin'
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (XVuno)

And it gets the ladies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:42 PM (1CjJc)

244 Cicero, I thought I had retired. Didn't work out. Sumbiches in a certain northern state said, you need to take the bar. Already done it for three states and waived into a fourth.
My brain hurts.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:42 PM (Lw60G)

245 I'm so totally considering a trip to the Nova MoMe,
but...my 20th Anniversary is May 6th...I'm already committed to the
Epicenter 3-day Metal-Fest in Charlotte the weekend before...

I so super-wanna-go to the NoVaMoMe...if I did, rhomboid...I'd so totally bring my CZs!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (N4r5a)

My anniversary is may 7th, but I'm still going. I'm bringing the other half, she didn't blink at the idea, so fuck it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 09:43 PM (9Om/r)

246 Seal the deal,



There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe. It's strictly an evening to get together and chat. The TxMoMe has all the shooting.

Posted by: JTB


LOL, thanks for pointing that out.

I simply meant that, had we both been going there, we could have found a local range (surely there are ranges there!) and had a grand afternoon before the gathering!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:44 PM (N4r5a)

247 Good point, Quint! That was actually one of my
selling points on the CZ...the slide slips INSIDE of the frame. Thus
making a smaller slide. For smaller folks like myself, that IS the
selling point.




Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:37 PM (N4r5a)

Yep, that is the point for sure. Everyone has different needs and interests. Just like I would never recommend any new shooter going for a BHP unless they have shot one and like the looks and characteristics. Some guy getting a BHP site unseen and then finding out about trigger bite would be a bad scene.

For sure get to a good range, meet with some friends, do whatever to try various hand guns out is my advice to anyone really. There is a reason people get rid of a lot of previously sought after weapons.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:45 PM (n13/j)

248 Word to the wise: Stamp collecting can be both exciting and educational. Just sayin'
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (XVuno)

And it gets the ladies.
Posted by: flounder
--
Philately, is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 09:46 PM (KoKdw)

249 RI Red @ 187 - Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done!


Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 09:15 PM (hXu8T)

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i just bought two t-shirts on line with that pretty much the same comment.

i'll send in a pic when i get them in a week or so, and i also resemble that remark.


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 09:47 PM (SL3Nf)

250 simply meant that, had we both been going there, we
could have found a local range (surely there are ranges there!) and had
a grand afternoon before the gathering!


Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:44 PM (N4r5a)

there is definitely a range there. The NRA HQ is there. They also have the national firearms museum.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:47 PM (n13/j)

251 My anniversary is may 7th, but I'm still going. I'm bringing the other half, she didn't blink at the idea, so fuck it.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


I hear ya, B-DD...I'm just already committed to the weekend before.

It would be super-awesome to meet you and your bride, though.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:48 PM (N4r5a)

252 ..
Philately, is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 09:46 PM (KoKdw)



It gets my stamp of approval. After all, it *is* the original Cancelled Culture.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2020 09:48 PM (QzJWU)

253 To me, the selling point of the CZ is this: if you run out of ammo, you can still kill the bad guy by just one sharp blow. You wouldn't need to pistol-whip much in a defensive situation with one. Why?

Those things are SOLID blocks of metal.

The nice thing about that is that I have found that the CZ attenuates recoil because of their size. I don't know if I'd get one or not.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 09:49 PM (ZSGV5)

254 For sure get to a good range, meet with some friends, do whatever to try various hand guns out is my advice to anyone really. There is a reason people get rid of a lot of previously sought after weapons.
Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:45 PM (n13/j)

This is why I love Top Gun Range in Houston. TONS of guns to try out. You can rent one with fifty rounds and find out if it's up to your liking or not.

In a very real sense, guns are like shoes. It makes sense to try one out before settling on one. One may look cool but be terrible for handling for whatever reason (and may yet work extremely well for someone else).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 09:51 PM (ZSGV5)

255 I hear ya, B-DD...I'm just already committed to the weekend before.

It would be super-awesome to meet you and your bride, though.


Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:48 PM (N4r5a)

We're thinking about doing the texas thing when it happens. We were talking about doing some smaller trips instead of one big trip every year. What part of texas is it?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 09:52 PM (9Om/r)

256 Love my RIA.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 09:52 PM (EQRLd)

257 I love the CZ-75. My only experience with them is the original version. It was impressive.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 09:54 PM (9Om/r)

258 What part of texas is it?
Corsicana, about an hour south of Dallas on I45.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 16, 2020 09:54 PM (S/rwf)

259 I talked myself into buying a another PSA lower while on this thread.

So cheap. Ships to a place close by that charges $20 transfer for veterans.

I am thinking of maybe stocking up on lowers as the uppers are not firearms for later.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 09:57 PM (ZfRYq)

260 That is fine shooting, Neon Madman.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (d1uFV)

261 244 Cicero, I thought I had retired. Didn't work out. Sumbiches in a certain northern state said, you need to take the bar. Already done it for three states and waived into a fourth.
My brain hurts.
Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:42 PM (Lw60G)

--------

Yikes. That's rough. My condolences.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:04 PM (XVuno)

262 Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

I remember that one!!!
Woohoo, it was fun!

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 10:07 PM (LNiBi)

263 Good news range report. As usual, wall o' text warning.
TL;DR - Glock 44 is shaping up, was a mag spring issue.

So, spent all of yesterday's range visit trying to iron out what was going wrong with the G44. My gut told me it was the magazine design, Moron Lazy Messenger said it was probably the mag springs. He was right.

Loading 9 rounds, I had zero malfunctions. So I spent most of the session loading 6 rounds for some drills with Nurse Ratchet (5 yards and 7 yards: strong hand only 6 rounds, reload and then weak hand only 6 rounds).

Doing this for about 300 rounds, I decided to try loading the magazines to full 10 round capacity. I did and it worked! No malfunctions at all for the next 100 rounds.

I'll do a full inspection and cleaning later this week, but the main quirks seem to have worked themselves out! So I will have a functional Glock 19 stand in for training. The accuracy has been very fine, by the way.

I also got to spend some quality time with my CZ P-07 Kadet adapter, which is very very nice. I shot better with it, because DA/SA and the SA trigger is Quality.

I do suck at weak hand shooting. Very much sucking. So more training on that next week.

The Nurse, by the way, is very good even one handed and even weak hand only. So...watchit.

It was a very good day at the range.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (d1uFV)

264 There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (7EjX1)


Well, why the hell not?

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 10:18 PM (LNiBi)

265 There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (7EjX1)


So far.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 10:19 PM (ZfRYq)

266 "Well, why the hell not?"

Because Virginia

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (w7KSn)

267 Well, why the hell not?"



Because Virginia

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (w7KSn)

what
the hell has happened to this world where Virginia is a cautionary
tale? A year ago Virginia was at the cutting edge of 2a rights and
their state organizations were models for others. That is a warning for
everyone really, don't get complacent.

And
one final point. I love the looks, style, history, and shootability of
the BHP. It is a still the quintessential 9mm wondergun to many. But
"In no way do I recommend it to a newbie or anyone who just owns one
gun. Sure you can learn to use it and it should work well. It will also
be a thing of beauty and only go up in value. There are no major design
flaw unless you are shooting IDPA or something.

But
I would not pick it as a first gun. Hell, there is nothing wrong with
the G19 really as long as you get good instruction. The BHP is a thing
of beauty to many and no other gun points as well. The Glock in
particular points weird for those used to 1911s and more classic
firearms. But you can get used to anything.

I
am not referring to the OP as I don't know his situation. But If I
were to recommend a first firearm to someone, it would likely be a wheel
gun or Glock. They key is don't pull that trigger full stop. And get
good training.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 10:41 PM (n13/j)

Food Thread: Peanuts And Zero-Proof Drinks And Unicorn Butt Cake: One Of These Sounds Good!

WeaselPeanuts.jpg

Boiled peanuts. Goober peas. Whatever you want to call them, they are loads of fun to eat! I remember as a little kid, driving through the South with my family and stopping for gas and a bag of boiled peanuts. And then getting in trouble for making a mess, but that's another story.

Above is Weasel's version, which is a strong indication that the recipe is...um...uncomplicated. He's a man who struggles with multi-layer sandwiches like peanut butter and jelly on toast, so if he can make them, you can too!

I don't remember any flavorings besides salt, but it is, at least according to the internet, very common to spice them up with all sorts of stuff. I think I'll try it, although finding green peanuts might be tough in the wilds of New Jersey. Not really...the internet has everything.

******

Whole Foods has moved into the fringes of the far-left part of the progressive mainstream of supermarkets, but if this ridiculous list is any indication, they have a long way to go before I start shopping there for more than a few particular items.
10 Food Trends To Look For In 2020, According To Whole Foods
Get ready to say yes, way to zero-proof aperitifs, see West African cuisine rise to prominence and say goodbye to tired and staid kids' menus. Whole Foods Market just released its list of 2020 food trends to watch for and topping the list of predictions is a continued focus on eco-conscious eats.

More than 50 Whole Foods Market staff members including local foragers, regional and global buyers and culinary experts put together the list of 10 food trends based on consumer preferences data, their own product sourcing experiences and what's been popular at food and wellness industry exhibitions. Here's a look at the food that will be popping up on plates in the year to come.

Where to start...where to start?

How about a big LOLGF? This list is a mass of hipster douche-bag SJW crap, with every leftist political meme inserted into what should be an easy and uncomplicated experience...buying food for the family. But no, they have to thrust their soppy, ahistoric, innumerate, ignorant-of-basic-economics blather into the mundane task of going to the store for dinner.

******

I mentioned to commenter "Roscoe," when he sent me this photo that I had eaten vegemite a long time ago while visitng Australia, and I am still traumatized by the experience. I asked that he explain the deeply psychotic reasons why he eats the stuff!

oldvegemite.jpg
I missed it by only 28 years?!?

Now I regret eating my last jar too quickly. It was probably pre-WWII.

I'm originally Aussie. And a love for black, salty, foul-smelling, brewer's-yeast extract is something that all right-minded Aussies grow up with and proudly exercise. It's another one of the primary things that makes us distinct from & superior to Kiwis, let alone the English.

Regarding your encounter, a few years back at my work we were asked to "bring a plate" for some occasion. I brought Vegemite sandwiches. There are a few co-workers who still remember being traumatized by that experience, I can tell you.


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Commenter "Butch" emailed with the unsurprising news that I am completely full of shit when it comes to "Balsamic Cream Sauce." Remember the roasted onions with what I thought was going to be a balsamic reduction? Well...I was spectacularly wrong.
BALSAMIC CREAM SAUCE
Why you people listen to me is beyond all reckoning. Except for that whole maple syrup brouhaha. About that I am 100% correct!
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Long-time lurker "RS" has sausage on the brain, just like me! But he is luckier than I...
What purports to be the oldest continuously operating restaurant in the world serves only bratwurst cooked over a charcoal grill, It's on the banks of the Danube in Regensburg, Germany. The sausages are authentic Bavarian brats which are the diameter ob our breakfast links and the length of a over-sized hot dog. They are divine. I've eaten there many, many times.
Here's the restaurant's website, the menu, and it even has a wiki entry!
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[Hat Tip: ibguy]

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Food and cooking tips, Large-breasted Muscovy ducks, well-marbled NY strips, bartenders who use vermouth in Martinis, crisp bacon (although I am moving toward less crisp), thick and fluffy pita, and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit. And yes, shaking a Manhattan is blasphemy...it's in the Bible!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM




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1 Yum.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (Hg4NE)

2 peanuts for $200...CBD

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 04:01 PM (QTR/U)

3 Damn, I like to ring the dinner bell

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 04:01 PM (ZCEU2)

4 Just have to report that adding a bit of baking powder to scrambled eggs produces the lightest, fluffiest eggs! Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 04:01 PM (WFcrO)

5 Boylt peanuts YUM!!!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:01 PM (a4qVe)

6 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 04:03 PM (arJlL)

7 Peanuts are good fresh but like most in a jar is what is usual. Going to get a handful now.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 04:04 PM (ZCEU2)

8 Goober peas. Haven't had them since we quit Civil War reenacting.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 16, 2020 04:05 PM (JUOKG)

9 I always felt like the shell on a peanut was food, too, and I always ate them--sometimes without breaking open the pod--and so I ate very, very few peanuts. More for my siblings!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 04:05 PM (ghFVE)

10 One nice thing about Whole Food--since they're owned by Amazon, if you need to return something to Amazon you can take it there, no need to find a box or wrap it.

Nothing to do with food, though.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 16, 2020 04:05 PM (l9m7l)

11 Upon retiring 6 months ago, I received a number of bottles of Scotch. I guess the word of my incipient alcoholism got out. Anyway, last night, we had all the kids over, and I decided to open one of the bottles in celebration. It was a Laphroaig Lore.

For those of you unfamiliar with Laphroaig, it's an intensely peaty, iodine-y single malt. It isn't for everyone, but I like that type. However, even I can't drink Laphroaig every day. It's intense.

Turns out, the Lore has all the best properties of the 10, but is so much smoother and complex. I can't recommend it enough. Well, assuming you have $100 to blow.

I think it may just have displaced Talisker as my favorite.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:07 PM (T6t7i)

12 For the record, I lived in southeast Alabama and the best boylt peanuts are green and salted only. The National peanut festival is every November in Dothan, Alabama. It's a carnival of deliciousness!!
That as well as the Strawberry Festival in Plant City Florida every year at the end of February.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:07 PM (a4qVe)

13 For boiled peanuts, try using Old Bay Seasoning. That's what one of my Profs at The Citadel did and were my first introduction to this Southern delicacy.

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 04:08 PM (gMngZ)

14 There's nothing "whole" about "Whole Foods".

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 04:09 PM (3H9h1)

15 so what's the deal with boiled peanuts

are they chewy, are they gooey, what

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:10 PM (iTXRQ)

16 Now on to rye.

I really like the Whistlepig 10, but it is also quite spendy, so I thought I'd try something a bit cheaper, but still not cheap. I got a bottle of Knob Creek Single Cask Select and the wife and I did a blind taste test.

The Knob Creek is spicier, almost peppery. It's quite good, but not nearly as good as the Whistlepig. The search continues for affordable rye.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:10 PM (T6t7i)

17 so what's the deal with boiled peanuts



are they chewy, are they gooey, what


Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:10 PM

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Salty, chewy stingy messes usually, unless you get them in the deep South from someone who knows what they are doing.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 16, 2020 04:11 PM (JUOKG)

18 Live in the heart of peanut country. Every year its a kind of game to drive by the many local farms and guess from the beginning growth- peanuts? soy beans? cotton?

The simplest way to "make" boiled peanuts is in the crock pot.

Add salt only! Anything else is some kinda left wing plot.

Why yes, I am from the South why do you ask?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:11 PM (cknjq)

19 Good afternoon, fellow Hordelings, and Thank You, CBD, for another fun Food Thread!

So, auspicious:

When I checked the fridge this morning, I saw that we actually had challah left from this past Shabbos dinner (this is VERY rare). And since it is indisputable that fresh, thickly sliced challah makes the *best* French Toast, I started to grab some eggs to begin the custard.

And that's when I saw the unopened quart of lactose-free eggnog we'd bought for the girls when they came to visit in late December. This gave me an idea: what *is* eggnog but slightly nutmeggy egg custard?

Hmmmm....

So after confirming that the nog was still potable, I set about slicing and dunking the challah, firing up the CI skillet with some canola oil, and voila! The most tender, fluffy, *delicious* FT I've ever made. While I of course anointed mine with [redacted], mrs ibguy went with just butter and a sprinkle of kosher salt (of course).

Wow.

Posted by: ibguy at February 16, 2020 04:12 PM (EHVbt)

20 Zero-Proof Drinks?

Water?

Posted by: socalcon at February 16, 2020 04:12 PM (Roy2Z)

21 Had fried cashews at the Kentucky State fair once. You would not believe how good they were straight from the fryer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2020 04:13 PM (XyVor)

22 10 Food Trends To Look For In 2020, According To Whole Foods

I am genuinely surprised that they didn't push "bug eating" as leftist scum are wont to do in current year (along with living in pods).

As an aside, I recommend using non-iodized salt for making boiled peanuts as the iodized salt will impart a slight metallic taste.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at February 16, 2020 04:13 PM (DTX3h)

23 Except for that whole maple syrup brouhaha. About that I am 100% correct!

Sure you are.

Commie.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 16, 2020 04:13 PM (7s3Gx)

24 20 Zero-Proof Drinks?

Water?
Posted by: socalcon at February 16, 2020 04:12 PM (Roy2Z)

I think they must be talking about sweet tea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2020 04:13 PM (XyVor)

25 10 Food Trends To Look For In 2020, According To Whole Foods

I tried really hard to read the article but when I saw "Regenerative Agriculture" and "West African Cuisine" I clicked out. Life's too short to read that bullsh*t.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:14 PM (Dhht7)

26 ok here's a confession, tell me if this is weird:

if I get a bag of roasted-in-the-shell peanuts, about every 5th or 6th one I will eat shell and all

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:14 PM (iTXRQ)

27 There's nothing "whole" about "Whole Foods".

Sure there is. "Whole" paycheck.

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 16, 2020 04:14 PM (7s3Gx)

28
So after confirming that the nog was still potable, I set about slicing and dunking the challah, firing up the CI skillet with some canola oil, and voila! The most tender, fluffy, *delicious* FT I've ever made. While I of course anointed mine with [redacted], mrs ibguy went with just butter and a sprinkle of kosher salt (of course).

Wow.
Posted by: ibguy at February 16, 2020 04:12 PM (EHVbt)

Oh my gosh that sounds so good!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 04:15 PM (TdMsT)

29 ibguy...my mouth waters.

Posted by: socalcon at February 16, 2020 04:15 PM (Roy2Z)

30 That WF asshattery is a result of the AMZ takeover. Nothing but downhill since then.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 04:16 PM (baQys)

31 Do you have to start with unsalted peanuts in the shell...and then add salt?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:16 PM (cF8AT)

32 Farmstores in Florida had THE very best eggnog in the world. I used it as a "cheat" for French toast.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:17 PM (a4qVe)

33 Inspired by the Great British Baking show, daughter and I made some delicious and pretty good looking macarons. Our last attempt was a disaster, so I know they are not easy. Im very pleased with myself.

Posted by: LASue at February 16, 2020 04:17 PM (Ed8Zd)

34 Peanuts should be consumed when they come out of bag at the baseball stadium or from the inside of RC/Pepsi/NuGrape soda. Boylt? Nope. There, I said it.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:18 PM (Dhht7)

35 16 year old vegemite. No big deal, vegemite isn't real food anyway.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 04:18 PM (aS1PU)

36 16 year old vegemite. No big deal, vegemite isn't real food anyway.


Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 04:18 PM

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Yep, pretty much just a jar full of chemicals.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 16, 2020 04:19 PM (JUOKG)

37 i doubt i ever taste them again, but 20 or so years ago Black Maple and Pappy's ryes were truly exceptional

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 04:19 PM (QTR/U)

38 Maybe enjoying Vegemite is like drinking Moxie soda. You had to be there and be introduced to it at a young age before taste buds developed.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 04:19 PM (7EjX1)

39 Also just finished a batch of Instapot Chicken Stock.

ProTip: most of the recipes on the 'net cay pressure cook for 40-45 minutes, but I've found going to an hour and 15 minutes under pressure yields a MUCH more toothsome result.

Did cedar plank salmon for Shabbos dinner, best I've ever made. Pre-salted with a sprinkle of sea salt and then fruidge for a whuile, then rub of 1 cup brown sugar and a Kroger-pack of finely chopped fresh baby dill. Let *that* sit for a while, then fire up the barbie and get to work.

Oh: you'll want to soak those plans for a while, too.

Posted by: ibguy at February 16, 2020 04:19 PM (EHVbt)

40 Rye Bourbon/whiskey...

Well, where shall we start?

What exactly are you looking for in a Rye? Sweetness? Earthiness? Proof? And for the douche bags, "provenance?"

Let us get down to brass tacks and discuss.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 04:20 PM (3H9h1)

41 about every 5th or 6th one I will eat shell and all

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:14
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The shell's just extra roughage. Should be OK.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:20 PM (Dhht7)

42 39 Also just finished a batch of Instapot Chicken Stock.

ProTip: most of the recipes on the 'net cay pressure cook for 40-45 minutes, but I've found going to an hour and 15 minutes under pressure yields a MUCH more toothsome result.

Did cedar plank salmon for Shabbos dinner, best I've ever made. Pre-salted with a sprinkle of sea salt and then fruidge for a whuile, then rub of 1 cup brown sugar and a Kroger-pack of finely chopped fresh baby dill. Let *that* sit for a while, then fire up the barbie and get to work.

Oh: you'll want to soak those plans for a while, too.
Posted by: ibguy at February 16, 2020 04:19 PM (EHVbt)


You should open a restaurant, Ibguy!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 04:20 PM (TdMsT)

43 for mlii- I Can't link from this phone. Just do a search for 'Food Network Lemon Blueberry Bread'. OR a simple gulag search on Orange Blueberry Bread yields 3 good hits right away. (EMT question)

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 04:21 PM (baQys)

44 I just made ice cream, but strawberry, not peanut. With lightly blended fresh strawberries. I can't recall the last time we had store bought ice cream; it is somewhat of a disappointment after eating homemade.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 16, 2020 04:21 PM (jxuqq)

45 How about a big LOLGF? This list is a mass of hipster douche-bag SJW crap,

==


of course it is. the writer is based in Nuevo York.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:21 PM (zr5Kq)

46 >The shell's just extra roughage. Should be OK.
Posted by: olddog

oh I'm not worried about it
the shell has a mild vanilla flavor, to me at least
ymmv

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:22 PM (iTXRQ)

47 Kallisto totally agree. Bezoar and Amazon have killed what made Whole Foods special to me. They carry significantly less products of all kinds. They have eliminated the "local artisan".
Customer service is also going down the tubes too.
It's really a shame.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:22 PM (a4qVe)

48 3 hours to boil peanuts ? why ???

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:22 PM (zr5Kq)

49 I love San Francisco unicorn butt cake

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 16, 2020 04:23 PM (Pgcou)

50 Your mom has sausage on the brain.

Sorry, I had to say it. You left me no choice.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 04:25 PM (pftYY)

51 40
Rye Bourbon/whiskey...



Well, where shall we start?



What exactly are you looking for in a Rye? Sweetness? Earthiness? Proof? And for the douche bags, "provenance?"


Given that I'd never tasted rye until a few months ago, I'm not sure. As I said, I do like peaty, smoky Scotch, so figured a spicier, less sweet version of bourbon would be good. Also, I don't drink it straight, although I may start. Most of the rye I've consumed was in the form of a Manhattan, which is rapidly becoming a favorite cocktail, if I'm not drinking Scotch neat, or Gand T in the summertime.
It seemed silly to spend Whistlepig prices on mixed drinks, but I maintain that you can taste the difference, so I'm still looking for that top shelf product with the non-top shelf price.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (T6t7i)

52 I gotta admit, I never understood the boiled peanuts thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (ZLI7S)

53 I plucked the lucuma fruit and ate the whole thing. I had never eaten anything so sweet. It was like caramelll

Posted by: Regular gus fringe here to give you nightmares at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (6/uwW)

54 a dry earthiness and enough proof to slow me down.

provenance?

there was a time when pappy and black maple were affordable and readily available.

anymore i am always searching.

woodford is good.
Bulliet cask is nice.

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (QTR/U)

55 Do you have to start with unsalted peanuts in the shell...and then add salt?
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:16 PM (cF8AT)

Yes Tami.

"Green" in the shell. Water, peanuts and salt. That's it.

We eat them until we're sick then bag up the rest and freeze the rest. Take out a bag or three and reheat and eat.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (cknjq)

56 Where does one get "fresh green peanuts"?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (cF8AT)

57 Oh ok, 'green' means in the shell.

Well, why didn't Paula Deen just say that?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:27 PM (cF8AT)

58 The search continues for affordable rye.




Is $30 for 750 ml affordable ?

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (zr5Kq)

59 My dad buys canned boiled peanuts and eats them once in a while. I have not sampled. Perhaps he got the taste for them in the Marines, I doubt they were a thing for him growing up in ND.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (cDw3P)

60 If peanuts are boiled, do they soft and mushy?

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (TdMsT)

61 Can you do the same or something similar with roasted peanuts?

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (H9lUe)

62 Where does one get "fresh green peanuts"?
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM (cF8AT)

Here you can buy them in the grocery store. Publix, WalMart wherever.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (cknjq)

63 Where does one get "fresh green peanuts"?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:26 PM
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Let me save you the time. Don't!

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:29 PM (Dhht7)

64 Sazerac rye is very good. Rittenhouse bib or Overholdt for every day

Posted by: Regular gus fringe here to give you nightmares at February 16, 2020 04:29 PM (6/uwW)

65 59 My dad buys canned boiled peanuts and eats them once in a while. I have not sampled. Perhaps he got the taste for them in the Marines, I doubt they were a thing for him growing up in ND.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (cDw3P)

Actually, I saw them in the can at Walmart the other day.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:29 PM (cF8AT)

66 Well, why didn't Paula Deen just say that?
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:27 PM (cF8AT)

Green is uncooked.

Don't try to boil roasted peanuts

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:30 PM (cknjq)

67 Maybe that depends where you were. Green peanuts in Alabama were unroasted and in the shell.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:30 PM (a4qVe)

68 Here you can buy them in the grocery store. Publix, WalMart wherever.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:28 PM (cknjq)

You just mean roasted unsalted peanuts in the shell, right?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:30 PM (cF8AT)

69 Carolina Reaper peanuts can be fun.

Posted by: Big V at February 16, 2020 04:31 PM (XEC2p)

70 Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:30 PM (cF8AT)

Unroasted. Washed and thats it

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:31 PM (cknjq)

71 Oh uncooked....

This is too complicated.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:31 PM (cF8AT)

72 "When yo bake a rainbow cake and it ends up looking like a Unicorns asshole": One of the funniest things I've ever read

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at February 16, 2020 04:32 PM (H9lUe)

73 58
The search continues for affordable rye.





Is $30 for 750 ml affordable ?

Posted by: runner


Here in NoVa, Whistlepig 10 is about $75, and Knob Creek Select Single Cask is about $50. I'd say the latter is a reasonable compromise between taste and price, but I'm always looking to do better. I don't know that $30 would have the taste I expect, but I've never bought it, so I don't know.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:32 PM (T6t7i)

74 We've gotten peanuts straight from the field but washing the dirt off is a pain.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:32 PM (cknjq)

75 Whole Foods. Trader Joe's. Ikea. Restoration Hardware. The Basilicas of the Wine Mom.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 04:33 PM (pftYY)

76 The Weasel picture they look shelled.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 04:33 PM (Hg4NE)

77 No they don't

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 04:33 PM (Hg4NE)

78 So I made smash burgers. Basically you make a big meatball instead of a patty. Then you heat your griddle pan super high and you smash the shit out of that meatball and sear it dark brown on both sides, and in the process destroy your cheap spatula. Much, much better than I ever expected and super easy. Definitely on the greasy side, so not for every pallet.

Posted by: Max Power at February 16, 2020 04:34 PM (llxrS)

79 It's always amusing to me that Americans find tasting Vegemite such a traumatising event. We Aussies are brought up on the stuff and develop a tolerance at an early age, even going as far as enjoying the uniquely Australian delicacy of cheese and vegemite sandwiches. However the secret to eating Vegemite for the first time is very much like getting used to eating spicy foods, you start off with a small amount and slowly build up your tolerance. For example a light smear of Vegemite on a piece of toast with plenty of butter is more than enough for a first timer. What ever you do, do not slather it on like peanut butter, jam or honey, or eat it directly from a spoon. If you do this you are going to have a bad time.

Posted by: Matt at February 16, 2020 04:34 PM (mtCSE)

80 11 ... My favorite Islay scotch is Lagavulin 16 but the price has gone up the last few years. I still have a bottle from a a while back. At the rate I go through scotch, that is a couple of years' worth.

I like Laphoaig and had a chance to try the various styles. This was befor they released the Lore version. My preference is the Laphroaig Quarter Cask. It has all the peatiness, which I enjoy, but there is an underlying sweetness. And it costs around $50, not $100 .

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 04:36 PM (7EjX1)

81 Tami, wait till the early fall and get you a few pounds of green in the shell peanuts from WM or whatever and give it a try.

You can get peanuts this time of year but they danged sure ain't fresh.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:36 PM (cknjq)

82 ...I don't know that $30 would have the taste I expect, but I've never bought it, so I don't know.
Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:32 PM (T6t7i)


Not an expert in Rye whiskey, but I tried Templeton and liked it. It's about $30 in my area.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:36 PM (zr5Kq)

83 "Nose of sweet and spicy flavors with aromas of caramelized banana, vanilla, cinnamon , and wintergreen. Oak is subtle, leaving a honey-sweet entry on the palate that moves quick to dry rye grain, chili flake, and black pepper. Gold Medal- San Francisco World Spirits Tasting"

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:38 PM (zr5Kq)

84 Nick Charles said that Manhattans are shaken to foxtrot tempo. In terms of cocktail knowledge, clearly supersedes the Bible.

Posted by: Nazdar at February 16, 2020 04:39 PM (JVDFb)

85 Move Over Soy -- Soy has long been a plant-based protein but as more consumers adopt
flexitarian diets, brands are experimenting with swapping soy (a top allergen) for mung bean, hempseed, avocado and other plant-based alternatives.


"flexitarian"

Posted by: Lizzy at February 16, 2020 04:39 PM (bDqIh)

86 Whole Foods has moved into the fringes of the far-left part of the progressive mainstream of supermarkets, but if this ridiculous list is any indication, they have a long way to go before I start shopping there for more than a few particular items.
10 Food Trends To Look For In 2020, According To Whole Foods


most of the stuff in this article is okay, it's just they have to combine it, like cbd says, with dumb sjw and pc bs phrases and vernacular

much of that stuff I eat already, and some I would try

I just don't want to be TOLD what to eat and the reasons behind it, because it's silly. I'll eat it if I like it. I'll try it if it sounds good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:39 PM (vEIlU)

87 Flexitarian-Americans.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:40 PM (zr5Kq)

88 42 Big Sis

Thanks, but too much stress

Posted by: ibguy at February 16, 2020 04:40 PM (EHVbt)

89

Always loved boiled peanuts, too. Occasionally I'll buy some.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:40 PM (vEIlU)

90 51>

I'd recommend any Rye for "tasting purposes" before suggesting a $50+ bottle. Rye is an acquired taste. I personally have a love/hate relationship with it.

I spend several hundred dollars a month on good booze. Bourbons, Scotches, Vodka, Gin, etc.

My liver will testify.

Sipping Bourbon, vs. drinking Bourbon is a $30 spread. Rye is higher.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 04:40 PM (3H9h1)

91 What purports to be the oldest continuously operating restaurant in the world serves only bratwurst cooked over a charcoal grill, It's on the banks of the Danube in Regensburg, Germany. The sausages are authentic Bavarian brats which are the diameter ob our breakfast links and the length of a over-sized hot dog. They are divine. I've eaten there many, many times.

nice!
I would travel there just for this, lol.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:41 PM (vEIlU)

92 Whole foods is a commie plot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 16, 2020 04:41 PM (VIynn)

93 "flexitarian"
Posted by: Lizzy at February 16, 2020 04:39 PM (bDqIh)
~~~~~

Someone who is a vegetarian but sometimes eats meat.

In other words, full of crap.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 04:41 PM (sGotD)

94 81 Tami, wait till the early fall and get you a few pounds of green in the shell peanuts from WM or whatever and give it a try.

You can get peanuts this time of year but they danged sure ain't fresh.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:36 PM (cknjq)

Ah ok. Are they just with the roasted shelled peanuts or where?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:41 PM (cF8AT)

95 >>It's always amusing to me that Americans find tasting Vegemite such a traumatising event. We Aussies are brought up on the stuff and develop a tolerance at an early age, even going as far as enjoying the uniquely Australian delicacy of cheese and vegemite sandwiches. However the secret to eating Vegemite for the first time is very much like getting used to eating spicy foods, you start off with a small amount and slowly build up your tolerance. For example a light smear of Vegemite on a piece of toast with plenty of butter is more than enough for a first timer. What ever you do, do not slather it on like peanut butter, jam or honey, or eat it directly from a spoon. If you do this you are going to have a bad time.

You really sold me. I can't wait to tolerate Vegemite!

The hell is wrong with you people? There's not enough things in Australia to kill you, you have to invent new one?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 04:42 PM (ZLI7S)

96 Going to get another bottle of scotch tomorrow on way home, have a dentist appointment in the evening and might need it.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 04:42 PM (ZCEU2)

97 Wrote before my uncle is Australian and know he likes Vegemite, obviously never had it myself.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (ZCEU2)

98 ]83
"Nose of sweet and spicy flavors with aromas of caramelized banana,
vanilla, cinnamon , and wintergreen. Oak is subtle, leaving a
honey-sweet entry on the palate that moves quick to dry rye grain, chili
flake, and black pepper. Gold Medal- San Francisco World Spirits
Tasting"

Posted by: runner


Is that the Templeton?

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (T6t7i)

99 Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:41 PM (cF8AT)

Here they're in the produce section. You might have to order them where you are. They'll be dried out from the seller. (Those driers are really freaking loud. really really loud)

Uncooked!

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (cknjq)

100 51 ... Pep,

The best rye I've found is Pikesville Rye. It's 110 proof but is smooth and VERY flavorful. And even at state run store prices, it's still under $45. I've been able to try a number of ryes, including Whistle Pig, and none have come close to Pikesville. It is a great value.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (7EjX1)

101 Mrs VIA loves her dome boiled peanuts. Me, not so much.

With our pending move to the Charleston area in about 28 days, there is a roadside yuy on Ashley River Road at the Charleston end that makes her favorite. Wears a MAGA hat all day while running the place.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (tQaZ2)

102 there's no arguing matters of taste
some people in here like sushi or brussels sprouts which I find thoroughly grotesque

others like Vegemite

eat and let eat

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:45 PM (iTXRQ)

103 I'm not a Rye drinker. Never acquired the taste for it.
Bourbon, oh yes. Bulleit is excellent and my own personal favorite, Big Horn. Made in Montana and outstanding if, a pain to find.
Driving to St Regis, MT is the closest I've ever found to me. It's probably heresy but I sip it neat. No ice, no water.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at February 16, 2020 04:45 PM (Tt761)

104 "Oh ok, 'green' means in the shell"


Green means fresh, not dried out.

Hardy Farms has some of the best peanuts and I believe they will send you some green or boiled.

If you've ever had bad boiled peanuts I can understand the dislike. The canned ones taste like dirt.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 04:45 PM (Tnijr)

105 >>Someone who is a vegetarian but sometimes eats meat.
In other words, full of crap.


Seriously? That is hilarious: "I want the cache of claiming to be a vegetarian - to save the planet! - with out giving up meat." Alrighty!

I was just relieved to not see bugs on that list -- unless that's part pf West African cuisine that it a hot new trend. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at February 16, 2020 04:45 PM (bDqIh)

106 Sipping Bourbon, vs. drinking Bourbon is a $30 spread. Rye is higher.

Posted by: Martini Farmer


I've had the biggest problem with bourbon. Most of them are just way too sweet for me.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:45 PM (T6t7i)

107 I'm going to be a contrarian here. Boiled peanuts are the worst thing I have ever eaten.

Posted by: Aud at February 16, 2020 04:46 PM (uBywd)

108 When I had to live in New Jersey, there was a small diner that had Long Island duck, and man it was good. Has anyone a good recipe for that?

Posted by: clutch at February 16, 2020 04:46 PM (9UmRs)

109 The hell is wrong with you people? There's not enough things in Australia to kill you, you have to invent new one?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 04:42 PM (ZLI7S)


They live fast and die young.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 04:46 PM (aS1PU)

110 Anyone have any good sous vide recipes, or good tips for using this cooking method?

I've recently inherited a sous vide circulator (?) and don't know what to try first.

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 16, 2020 04:46 PM (n6wjb)

111 I'm going to be a contrarian here. Boiled peanuts are the worst thing I have ever eaten.
Posted by: Aud at February 16, 2020 04:46 PM (uBywd)

Obviously deranged

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:47 PM (cknjq)

112 The best rye I've found is Pikesville Rye. It's 110
proof but is smooth and VERY flavorful. And even at state run store
prices, it's still under $45. I've been able to try a number of ryes,
including Whistle Pig, and none have come close to Pikesville. It is a
great value.

Posted by: JTB


I've heard good reviews of it, but they didn't have it in the store last time I looked. I'll keep looking.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:47 PM (T6t7i)

113 testing, with difficulty and some trepidation ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez on the new phone, yay ? at February 16, 2020 04:48 PM (zlgJP)

114 Lol, mung beans. Yeah, right.

They are nasty. They will never catch on. They smell and taste like a week old corpse dipped in shit.

This is some kind of prank on the hipsters by the marketeers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 04:48 PM (pftYY)

115 Tami, let me save you some time. Do you like roasted peanuts in the shell like you can get at the ballpark? If yes, stick with those. The boiled will disappoint.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:49 PM (Dhht7)

116 14 There's nothing "whole" about "Whole Foods".
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 04:09 PM (3H9h1)

except you need to use your Whole Paycheck.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2020 04:49 PM (sy5kK)

117 Bloomberg has spent $418 million.

Posted by: Wut at February 16, 2020 04:49 PM (M20vx)

118 are they chewy, are they gooey, what
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:10

No, they're ruined peanuts. And they are pronounced without the letter "i" in boiled. At least as my southerner wife pronounces it.

Posted by: clutch at February 16, 2020 04:50 PM (9UmRs)

119 This is your butthole.
This is your butthole after turning ghey.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 04:50 PM (pw+jk)

120 I use to work for an Australian bank. Someone always had Vegemite. Tried it once...I actually like it.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:50 PM (cF8AT)

121

fish,
fish,
and a Moroccan Chicken with Apricots and Almonds for a few nights this week - it was so delicious
(chicken, s/p, olive oil, ground coriander, smoked paprika, lemon juice, honey, chickpeas, dried apricots, shallot, fresh parsley, and greens - they recommend romaine lettuce hearts and watercress - I used romaine and a Spring green mix, and toasted whole almonds that you later chop coarse)

Valentines Day treat for Friday+ was some homemade Butterscotch Pudding that I've been craving. Weird craving. But I do not remember the last time I had butterscotch pudding. I was probably a kid. I guess I'm getting old. Kids and older people eat butterscotch pudding! With lots of whipped cream that I only lightly sugared to balance out the sweet pudding.

A light week to counter the weekends.

Tonight we're having Chicken Quesadilla's. I'm in the middle of prepping so have to get back to the kitchen.

I made quick guacamole to go with it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:50 PM (vEIlU)

122 Is that the Templeton?
Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (T6t7i)

Yes it is.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 04:50 PM (zr5Kq)

123 mung beans doesn't sound too appetizing

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:51 PM (iTXRQ)

124 Dropping in popularity: Wuhan Kung Pao.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 16, 2020 04:51 PM (r+sAi)

125 Don't listen to them Tami. Look up Hardy Farms peanuts and find out for yourself. The country caviar.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 04:51 PM (Tnijr)

126 >>You really sold me. I can't wait to tolerate Vegemite!

The hell is wrong with you people? There's not enough things in Australia to kill you, you have to invent new one?

Ahh..but that's the secret mate! if you can survive eating something like Vegemite on a regular basis than you can pretty much survive anywhere, especially an environment as hostile as Australia.

Posted by: Matt at February 16, 2020 04:52 PM (mtCSE)

127 Oy, left out the best part of the Moroccan chicken dish

GARAM MASALA

That makes the dish and your house smells amazing.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:53 PM (vEIlU)

128 The whole Rye, Bourbon, rice, corn, etc. battle is interesting.

Whiskey was originally a traded commodity because the growers couldn't get their corn to market down the Mississippi before it spoiled. Hence, Whiskey/Bourbon.

Rye, based on rice was different.

However I'm amused by the ability to make both into booze in little time.

Profit!

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 04:53 PM (3H9h1)

129 While I of course anointed mine with [redacted], mrs ibguy went with just butter and a sprinkle of kosher salt (of course).

Wow.
Posted by: ibguy at February 16, 2020 04:12 PM (EHVbt)


Redacted = Peanut Butter and Maple Syrup, I assume...that's my favorite way to eat French Toast. I can't stand powdered sugar.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 04:54 PM (a4ua0)

130 Canned boiled peanuts at the grocery store are NOT good. If you try those and are disappointed, you'd be correct.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:54 PM (cknjq)

131 mung beans doesn't sound too appetizing
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 04:51 PM (iT

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I'd prefer to eat a damn light bulb. And I have a broad pallette. The opposite of a picky eater.

But mung beans and jackfruit are repulsive. Inedible.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 04:55 PM (pftYY)

132 West African Cuisine

Eats from the West African region, made up of 16 nations, might just be the new "it" cuisine. You'll likely see ancient grains like fonio, teff and millet as well as superfoods like moringa and tamarind in more dishes and on grocery shelves.


well, I use tamarind in many of my Asian dishes, so...

too much crossover. This is not a trend.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:55 PM (vEIlU)

133 112 ... Pep,
Check the Virginia ABC website for availability. It shows Pikesville in stock in Manassas, Gainesville, Dale City and Springfield.

BTW, I only drink spirits in small amounts and neat. I just like the taste. A typical cocktail might have more booze than I would go through in a week.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 04:56 PM (7EjX1)

134 Ok horde, what would be a more peppery with a bit of sweet to it whisky or bourbon or rye?
I am trying to replicate a Italian meal we had, it will have a heavy Parmesan reggiano element as well so that what we're working with

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:56 PM (a4qVe)

135 125 Don't listen to them Tami. Look up Hardy Farms peanuts and find out for yourself. The country caviar.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 04:51 PM (Tnijr)


https://tinyurl.com/smhja95

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:56 PM (cF8AT)

136 Millet has been trendy for years. It's inoffensive but not good. It is caveman food. Modern humans can do much better.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 04:57 PM (pftYY)

137

mung beans are the seed for every bean sprout in your stirfries...

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 04:58 PM (+68l0)

138 Now that my teeth are freed from the tyranny of braces, I need to get a jar of cashews. Cashews are more or less like drugs: addictive, and costly.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 04:58 PM (kFLDt)

139 Afternoon, Horde...

Friday, I made gyros and roasted herb potatoes with feta for dinner. They were excellent, if I do say so myself, and I do.

Gyros: https://youtu.be/e3Rr0xzeFIs
Tzatziki: https://tinyurl.com/y33qdgws
Potatoes: https://tinyurl.com/u59qjba
Pita: No link. From Joy of Cooking

Since I didn't have dried oregano on hand, I used fresh oregano from the garden for the gyro meat and the potatoes. Just used a bunch more fresh than dried.

Bon apetit, or whatever they say in Greece.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 16, 2020 04:58 PM (BaHwF)

140 Canned boiled peanuts at the grocery store are NOT good. If you try those and are disappointed, you'd be correct.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:54 PM
--------------------------

I've had the Not-canned "boled" peanuts and was disappointed. And the whole family was p*ssed at me for making them try them. No one liked them.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:58 PM (Dhht7)

141 I like Laphoaig and had a chance to try the various styles. This was befor they released the Lore version. My preference is the Laphroaig Quarter Cask. It has all the peatiness, which I enjoy, but there is an underlying sweetness. And it costs around $50, not $100 .
Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 04:36 PM

I'm a bourbon guy and I'll try that quarter cask stuff. Trying to get a scotch start.

Posted by: clutch at February 16, 2020 04:58 PM (9UmRs)

142 Millet has been trendy for years. It's inoffensive but not good. It is caveman food. Modern humans can do much better.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 04:57 PM (pftYY)

Not caveman food. Parakeet food.

Posted by: Average Guy at February 16, 2020 04:59 PM (BaHwF)

143
I've had the Not-canned "boled" peanuts and was disappointed. And the whole family was p*ssed at me for making them try them. No one liked them.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 04:58 PM (Dhht7)

Obviously deranged

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 04:59 PM (cknjq)

144 I've never had boiled peanuts.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 16, 2020 04:59 PM (l5hQl)

145 (:

Yeah they are out of season. They will come in July or so. I figured they would have some frozen though.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 05:00 PM (Tnijr)

146 https://tinyurl.com/smhja95

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 04:56 PM
---------------------

Whew! You dodged a bullet.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:01 PM (Dhht7)

147
Rye, based on rice was different.



However I'm amused by the ability to make both into booze in little time.



Profit!

Posted by: Martini Farmer


Isn't rye made from....rye, a wheat type?

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:01 PM (T6t7i)

148 Making Shepards Pie this afternoon.
First time.
I will be gentle.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 05:01 PM (axyOa)

149 I've had the Not-canned "boled" peanuts and was disappointed. And the whole family was p*ssed at me for making them try them. No one liked them.
Posted by: olddog in mo

Most excellent.

Please also leave all the okra and oysters for me.

Posted by: Miklos, the hour of dinner approacheth at February 16, 2020 05:02 PM (QzkSJ)

150 We were in Charleston afew years back, and went to Hymans for lunch. They start you off with a basket of hot boiled peanuts. We both thought they were good, until they cooled off. Then not so much

Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 05:02 PM (vd8XM)

151 134
Ok horde, what would be a more peppery with a bit of sweet to it whisky or bourbon or rye?




Posted by: Cheriebebe

Sounds like rye to me. Bourbon is sweeter, because its main ingredient is corn. Scotch can vary, but is usually smokier.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:02 PM (T6t7i)

152 126 >>You really sold me. I can't wait to tolerate Vegemite!

The hell is wrong with you people? There's not enough things in Australia to kill you, you have to invent new one?

Ahh..but that's the secret mate! if you can survive eating something like Vegemite on a regular basis than you can pretty much survive anywhere, especially an environment as hostile as Australia.
Posted by: Matt


That was the ONE thing in Australia I ate that literally did NOT try to kill me. The doner kebabs at Bondi Beach? Yep. Grilled Shrimp in Brisbane? Heck yeah. Toast with marmite/vegemite? The only freaking thing I kept down, besides arrowroot biscuits.

I loath the stuff, but it gave me nourishment during an otherwise wretched week in Sydney.

Posted by: Moki at February 16, 2020 05:03 PM (mFoNl)

153 116 14 There's nothing "whole" about "Whole Foods".
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 04:09 PM (3H9h1)

except you need to use your Whole Paycheck.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2020 04:49 PM (sy5kK)

I've never understood the fascination with that place. (But then, there's no accounting for things sometimes. I will never understand why, for instance, my mother LOVES Kroger, even though it is more expensive than other stores. Additionally, what is the deal with Trader Joe's and Aldi stores? I've been in them and cannot be less impressed.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 05:03 PM (kFLDt)

154 Remember the 2 peasants in Monty Python's The
Holy Grail who were digging up peet? Turns out they were making Scotch Whiskey by pissing through the peet and bottling it. Witness the violence inherent in the system.

Posted by: monkey at February 16, 2020 05:03 PM (CLteG)

155 The best rye I've found is Pikesville Rye. It's 110
proof but is smooth and VERY flavorful. And even at state run store
prices, it's still under $45. I've been able to try a number of ryes,
including Whistle Pig, and none have come close to Pikesville. It is a
great value.

Posted by: JTB

I've heard good reviews of it, but they didn't have it in the store last time I looked. I'll keep looking.
Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 04:47 PM (T6t7i)



Pikesville Rye is Rittenhouse with a few more years on it.

Go with the Rittenhouse if you want a good cheap mixer.

High West Double Rye makes a nice Manhattan as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2020 05:04 PM (9wmyx)

156 Most excellent.

Please also leave all the okra and oysters for me.

Posted by: Miklos, the hour of dinner approacheth at February 16, 2020 05:02
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Oysters, no. Okra, I'll leave for you unless it's fried or in gumbo.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:04 PM (Dhht7)

157 The frozen boiled peanuts are subpar too. I got a bag at Sams once and threw out half of them. No, they have to be fresh and not over boiled or been in the pot, three days old.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 05:04 PM (Tnijr)

158 47 Kallisto totally agree. Bezoar and Amazon have killed what made Whole Foods special to me. They carry significantly less products of all kinds. They have eliminated the "local artisan".
Customer service is also going down the tubes too.
It's really a shame.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 04:22 PM (a4qVe)



Hole Foods is a tool of Jeff Bezo's vision of taking over the universe.

Hole Foods is a built in depot for picking up retail stuff, that one buys over the internet. It just happens to be a stylish grocery store now.

What it will turn into is in Bezo's mind, and perhaps a few senior managers. But it sure isn't the Whole Foods that many got used to before Jeff dropped $13 Billion.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2020 05:05 PM (sy5kK)

159 >I've never understood the fascination with that place.


so you can tell your friends you shop there and feel good about yourself

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:06 PM (iTXRQ)

160 I'm having a whisky sour at my local distillery. I like but cocktails could be an expensive habit compared to beer.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:06 PM (zYoUB)

161 ok here's a confession, tell me if this is weird:

if I get a bag of roasted-in-the-shell peanuts, about every 5th or 6th one I will eat shell and all
Posted by: DB- just DB

Nah. I've done that; so you're as normal as I am.

!

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 05:06 PM (arJlL)

162 Chuck roast in the crock pot for dinner tonight. dded some carrots plus garlic powder, onion powder, some Montreal Steak Seasoning with about a half cup of flour, mix it up, rub on both sides of roast, then fill with water to cook. Have to cook the taters in a separate pan. Roast too big.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 05:06 PM (a4ua0)

163 Most excellent.

Please also leave all the okra and oysters for me.

Posted by: Miklos, the hour of dinner approacheth at February 16, 2020 05:02
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Oysters, no. Okra, I'll leave for you unless it's fried or in gumbo.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:04 PM (Dhht7)


***

Okra.
Someone had to mention okra.
I'm already having a crappy day and it just got worse.
That vile weed.
Scourge of everything chlorophyll.
Just reading it causes the bile to rise.
I need a beer.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 05:07 PM (axyOa)

164 161 ok here's a confession, tell me if this is weird:

if I get a bag of roasted-in-the-shell peanuts, about every 5th or 6th one I will eat shell and all
Posted by: DB- just DB

Your appendix is going to burst.

Posted by: monkey at February 16, 2020 05:07 PM (CLteG)

165 Rye... Wheat and/or Rice.

My bad... mostly wheat. Depends on the blend. My issues with Rye are that's it's not easily mixed with stuff. Gingerer Ale maybe. Not fond of fruit juices for Rye.

I typically drink Bourbon, Rye, Scotch, etc. neat, or perhaps over ice.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 05:07 PM (3H9h1)

166 >I've never understood the fascination with that place.

Where else you gonna get the Ghey Cakes?

Posted by: Miklos, with a good guess at February 16, 2020 05:07 PM (QzkSJ)

167 Mid 80's there was a roadside stand between Starke and Gainesville with a big plywood sign that read
BOL'D
P-
NUTS
on one side and
CLOSED
I'M
TARD
on the other

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 16, 2020 05:08 PM (7Ry16)

168 Whew! You dodged a bullet.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:01 PM (Dhht7)

LOL!!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 05:08 PM (cF8AT)

169 I shop at Smith's for all my staples and meat, Sprouts for my fruits and vegetables

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 16, 2020 05:09 PM (VjHOE)

170 Where does one get "fresh green peanuts"?
Posted by: Tami

Mars

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 05:09 PM (arJlL)

171 Public service announcement for those too far inland for fresh, unfrozen scallops. I did a frying pan full of them, at a medium-ish heat, and kept draining off the water every couple minutes. The minute I started seeing some brown, they went into a 170 oven while I made a sauce.

Good as fresh from the coast? Not even close! But they weren't rubbery or watery, and Mrs. Refugee says she'll keep me . . so not a bad result at all.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at February 16, 2020 05:09 PM (8AONa)

172 mm oysters
I'm from the east coast where you get fresh oysters same day
steamed in the shell with a little hot sauce or cocktail sauce, that's good stuff
or deep-fried

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:09 PM (iTXRQ)

173 Okra.
Someone had to mention okra.
I'm already having a crappy day and it just got worse.
That vile weed.
Scourge of everything chlorophyll.
Just reading it causes the bile to rise.
I need a beer.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 05:07
--------------------

Miklos did it. *pours Diogenes beer thru USB port*

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:11 PM (Dhht7)

174 >Your appendix is going to burst.
Posted by: monkey


ah, I been doing it a long time- if it were bad for me I think I'd have suffered by now

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:11 PM (iTXRQ)

175 >>I shop at Smith's for all my staples and meat, Sprouts for my fruits and vegetables


Oh yeah, used to have a Sprouts nearby and loved it - the veggies and fruit there are so much better than at a King Soopers or Stop n Shop.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 16, 2020 05:12 PM (bDqIh)

176 I'll try anything once. And I will try boiled peanuts sometime. What's the worst that can happen?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:12 PM (zYoUB)

177 This should do wonders for Bloomberg's campaign...

@Jeffrey_Marty

What in the hell is wrong with these people

https://tinyurl.com/r2vaam8

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 05:13 PM (cF8AT)

178 133
112 ... Pep,

Check the Virginia ABC website for availability. It shows Pikesville
in stock in Manassas, Gainesville, Dale City and Springfield.


Thanks. I'm always surprised by the variability in stock from store to store.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

179 Boiled peanuts be good.

And they will clean you out if your all bound up.

Oh, look it's martini time. One olive only please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 05:14 PM (Z+IKu)

180 When I say I'll try anything once I mean it. The next time I'm in Africa I'll tried roasted grasshoppers and someday I'll buy a bottle of absinthe.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:14 PM (zYoUB)

181 I hear Corey Booker eats his French Toast with just butter and salt. It's a jersey thing.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 16, 2020 05:15 PM (cVvbj)

182 What in the hell is wrong with these people



https://tinyurl.com/r2vaam8

Posted by: Tami


Interesting. Are the knives coming out for Bloomberg?

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:15 PM (T6t7i)

183 okay here's a question that's appropriate for the food thread

I am replacing my oven this spring
do I go with the old timey electric heating element type or get one of those fancy smooth top ranges

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:15 PM (iTXRQ)

184 @Jeffrey_Marty

What in the hell is wrong with these people

https://tinyurl.com/r2vaam8
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 05:13 PM (cF8AT)


Gawdalmighty.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:15 PM (TdMsT)

185 Part of my interest in rye whiskey is historical. Rye grain grows, even flourishes, where other grains won't. It was possibly the most common type of whiskey in the Colonies and early America. George Washington had one of the biggest distilleries at Mount Vernon. They rebuilt a small version of the distillery and are using Washington's recipe to make small runs of rye. It would be fun to try some.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 05:15 PM (7EjX1)

186 The only boiled peanut ever offered me was a sticky brown roundish thing that looked like something Beto would offer his wife. Couldn't get to the put in mouth part.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM (l6b3d)

187 Bone Apertite ya'll

I made fajita chicken quesadillas with green chiles instead of jalapenos in them with an extra spicy guacamole on the side.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM (CKxoR)

188 185
Part of my interest in rye whiskey is historical. Rye grain grows, even
flourishes, where other grains won't. It was possibly the most common
type of whiskey in the Colonies and early America. George Washington had
one of the biggest distilleries at Mount Vernon. They rebuilt a small
version of the distillery and are using Washington's recipe to make
small runs of rye. It would be fun to try some.


I've had it. You haven't missed anything.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM (T6t7i)

189 As to rye whiskey, wild turkey makes a decent one. I was gifted with a bottle of jack daniels rye a while back, and I enjoyed it, but my go to booze is old crow, so ymmv.

Made a tasty and simple supper last night. Family pack of chicken thighs, skin on and with the bone, damnit. 10 pieces. Lightly trimmed the excess fat, coated with a little olive oil, seasoned all over with zattarains seasoning, placed on a wire rack, skin side up, over a rimmed baking sheet, shoved (gently) into a 400 degree oven for 45 minutes.

Served with jasmine rice. Hot, tasty, cheap, and easy! Just like I like my dates.

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 16, 2020 05:17 PM (U2zca)

190 I'll try anything once. And I will try boiled peanuts sometime. What's the worst that can happen?
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:12 PM (zYoUB)
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Your fingers shrivel up like you've been in the pool all day. They remind me of going to flea markets and sports as a kid.

Posted by: jhawk90 at February 16, 2020 05:17 PM (7Ry16)

191 Damn this New York sour is good. The single malt whisky comes through loud and clear but then you taste the lemon juice and finally the red wine float.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:17 PM (zYoUB)

192 Boiled peanuts?...kinda like eating boiled, hard snot.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 05:18 PM (a4ua0)

193 Your fingers shrivel up like you've been in the pool all day.


Posted by: jhawk90


Sure. Your fingers.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:18 PM (T6t7i)

194 187 Bone Apertite ya'll

I made fajita chicken quesadillas with green chiles instead of jalapenos in them with an extra spicy guacamole on the side.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM (CKxoR)


Omg. That sounds wonderful.

I'm going out to dinner with a friend and we're getting Mexican. Now I can't wait!

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:18 PM (TdMsT)

195 I had peanut soup in a restaurant once. It was one of the best soups I've ever had. It was similar to bean soup but more flavorful.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2020 05:18 PM (+lVUW)

196 Muad'dib,

Do you sell your maple syrup commercially?

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 05:19 PM (7EjX1)

197 I am replacing my oven this spring

do I go with the old timey electric heating element type or get one of those fancy smooth top ranges





Posted by: DB- just DB
====
I don't see longbow/crossbow level arguing, but it may get close. My personal preference is smooth top electric. Not quite as precise as gas, but close - plus it's easier to clean (If you have the right cleaner.)

Posted by: 2009Refugee at February 16, 2020 05:19 PM (8AONa)

198 Rittenhouse is my go to rye for Manhattans.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 16, 2020 05:19 PM (Vf4Y7)

199 kallisto, I have a question for you. I was looking at your recipe for "Make Ahead Mashed Potatoes" and am planning to try your tip of freezing some single serving sizes in a muffin tin and then bagging them for later.

Could you tell me how you reheat them? Oven? Microwave?

Posted by: cfo mom at February 16, 2020 05:20 PM (RfzVr)

200 DJT's afternoon nap the subject of a congressional very criminal inquiry. Very criminal.

Posted by: klaftern at February 16, 2020 05:20 PM (RuIsu)

201 When I say I will try absinthe sometime I wonder what's the worst thing the green fairy can do to me. Apart from prison time, I mean?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:20 PM (zYoUB)

202
Zero-Proof Drinks And Unicorn Butt Cake

---

I'll have a slice of ass-cake and a stein of why bother.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at February 16, 2020 05:21 PM (t5m5e)

203 188 ... pep,
Thanks for the heads up about the Mount Vernon rye. That will save me a lot of wondering and maybe money.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 05:22 PM (7EjX1)

204 Jumping from boiled peanuts, over to the instant pot.

Third week of owning one, and still glad we got it.

Danish baby back ribs come out 'fall off the bone' tender.

And come to think of it, can one make boiled peanuts in an instant pot on the pressure cook setting.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 05:22 PM (tT0V4)

205 When I say I will try absinthe sometime I wonder what's the worst thing the green fairy can do to me. Apart from prison time, I mean?
Posted by: Northernlurker

I tried it once. No big deal. Kind of a anise flavor. No green fairy

Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 05:22 PM (vd8XM)

206 I am replacing my oven this spring
do I go with the old timey electric heating element type or get one of those fancy smooth top ranges

Posted by: DB- just DB

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Natural gas.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 05:22 PM (Y4EXg)

207 185
Part of my interest in rye whiskey is historical. Rye grain, even
flourishes, where other grains won't. It was possibly the most common
type of whiskey in the Colonies and early America. George Washington had
one of the biggest distilleries at Mount Vernon. They rebuilt a small
version of the distillery and are using Washington's recipe to make
small runs of rye. It would be fun to try some.

Posted by: JTB


If you're local, MV has a whisky tasting around Xmas for about $80 a ticket. There are dozens of vendors giving out tastes of their wares. Some are quite good, and some....aren't. Still, you get to walk around the MV exhibition hall, which is now quite impressive, all the while sipping and chatting. Well worth the money.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 05:22 PM (T6t7i)

208 > I wonder what's the worst thing the green fairy can do to me.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:20 P



Catch me on St Patricks Day!!

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 16, 2020 05:23 PM (l5hQl)

209 Visited a Trader Joes last summer because I just had to see what *all* the fuss was about.

Pfft.

Couldn't see what *any fuss at all* was about.

The store appeared much cleaner than its clientele, though.

Posted by: JQ at February 16, 2020 05:23 PM (whOIk)

210 > Muad'dib,

Do you sell your maple syrup commercially?
Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 05



I'm afraid not.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 16, 2020 05:24 PM (l5hQl)

211 I'm craving a PB & Jelly Sandwich with a glass of milk... Ever since I've got the flu I've dropped off the Keto wagon

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:24 PM (UUBmN)

212 I used my googly translate to read that menu. Damn, I'm hungry now.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 16, 2020 05:25 PM (Vf4Y7)

213 " I am replacing my oven this spring
do I go with the old timey electric heating element type or get one of those fancy smooth top ranges "

Another topic I need to ask about.

No gas available in new home.

Any thoughts on induction cooktop?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 05:25 PM (tT0V4)

214 205 When I say I will try absinthe sometime I wonder what's the worst thing the green fairy can do to me. Apart from prison time, I mean?
Posted by: Northernlurker

I tried it once. No big deal. Kind of a anise flavor. No green fairy
Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 05:22 PM (vd8XM)

If you don't like anise/black licorice, you'll hate it.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 05:25 PM (NWiLs)

215 >Posted by: Tonypete

if I want a gas stove I'd have to pay a plumber to put in the pipe$

I gotta go electric

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:25 PM (iTXRQ)

216 GARAM MASALA
That makes the dish and your house smells amazing.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at February 16, 2020 04:53 PM (vEIlU)

Mmm. That sounds delicious!
Our daughter received some Spice House Masala Cocoa mix from one of her brothers on Christmas. It is so good.
The combo would make an awesome cupcake &/or icing.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at February 16, 2020 05:25 PM (dH/BH)

217 I like Trader Joe's. They don't try to be all things to all people so the things they do carry are excellent and reasonable. I buy most of my produce there and the frozen things they carry are usually way better than the regular grocery store brands. Things like Thai rolls, samosas, chinese dumplings are all as good as any you would get in a restaurant. I cooked a thai dinner for some friends and made Thai shrimp and curry green beans and fried tofu from scratch but served lemon grass thai rolls and gyoza from Trader Joe's so i could put freshly made main courses on the table at the proper time.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 16, 2020 05:26 PM (QzF6i)

218 lin-duh, geeze Lady, I hope you are finally starting to feel a little better.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:26 PM (CKxoR)

219 I'd do induction if you can't have natural gas. The only serious issue is do you have the right pots and pans for induction?

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:26 PM (UUBmN)

220 If you don't like anise/black licorice, you'll hate it.
Posted by: Insomniac -

And Ouzo is cheaper

Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 05:26 PM (vd8XM)

221 I'm having to use an electric oven for the first time in 40 yrs, I hate the fucking thing. Give me gas

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 16, 2020 05:27 PM (VjHOE)

222 Ben Had,
I'm feeling better just run down, tired, and ditzy.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:27 PM (UUBmN)

223 Rain delay at the Daytona 500. Florida gonna Florida.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 05:27 PM (0zDoP)

224 211 I'm craving a PB & Jelly Sandwich with a glass of milk... Ever since I've got the flu I've dropped off the Keto wagon
Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:24 PM (UUBmN)

Sorry about your flu. When I'm sick I tend to lose my appetite entirely.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 05:28 PM (NWiLs)

225 >do you have the right pots and pans for induction?
Posted by: lin-duh


i'd have to buy new pots n pans for a smooth top stove?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:28 PM (iTXRQ)

226 221 I'm having to use an electric oven for the first time in 40 yrs, I hate the fucking thing. Give me gas
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 16, 2020 05:27 PM (VjHOE)

*shoves Taco Bell Burrito Supreme through USB port*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 05:28 PM (NWiLs)

227 As I'm late to the thread, I offer my boiled peanuts recipe. Pull your peanuts out of the row, shake off the dirt (leave it in the field where it belongs), pick off the peanuts and put them in your 5 gallon bucket, leave the vines in the row middles. When you bucket is full take it to the porch and wash off the dirt (easiest way is leave them in the bucket, add cold water and agitate with your hand like a washing machine). Put your peanuts in the biggest pot you have and throw in a handful of kosher salt. Boil until you can open a peanut with your front teeth dropping them in your mouth. Pour off the water grab a sixpack of Pabst Blue Ribbon and eat peanuts until they are gone. This is the proper way. It is known.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 05:29 PM (UUkQp)

228 I'd like to try more rye. I've had Makers Mark, which I guess is the anti-rye, and didn't like it much. Too bland. I'm a scotch drinker and bourbon seems too sweet. Lots of good suggestions here I'll have to try.

Posted by: banana Dream at February 16, 2020 05:29 PM (l6b3d)

229 When I'm sick I tend to lose my appetite entirely.
Posted by: Insomniac
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I'm one of those luck people that can backpack in the mountains for 5 days and eat next to nothing but gain weight...luck me!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:29 PM (UUBmN)

230 if I want a gas stove I'd have to pay a plumber to put in the pipe$

I gotta go electric

Posted by: DB- just DB

--

I figured - just goofing on ya.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 05:29 PM (Y4EXg)

231 Bone Apertite ya'll

I made fajita chicken quesadillas with green chiles instead of jalapenos in them with an extra spicy guacamole on the side.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM

Hi, Ben Had. Sounds delish. Daughter made some this week using green chiles, too. Less heat so mama could handle them.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:29 PM (Dhht7)

232 Boiled peanuts are soft?

WTF is wrong with you southerners???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 16, 2020 05:31 PM (CjFDo)

233 i'd have to buy new pots n pans for a smooth top stove?
Posted by: DB
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Not for an electric glass top stove but you do need the right pans to make induction work. They look the same but the technology is totally different.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:31 PM (UUBmN)

234 Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 05:29 PM (UUkQp)

Obviously not deranged

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 16, 2020 05:31 PM (cknjq)

235 Northernlurker @ 201- don't worry about the green fairy, or was that the Blue Fairy?

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 05:31 PM (UUkQp)

236 about 15 yrs ago, some nutty NYC weekender in my little village was redoing their kitchen

the demo was taken to our little dump

included was a lightly used but filthy 48' wolf french cooktop, gas

had my friend glass shot the thing

second best thing I've ever found at the dump

still in use today

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 05:33 PM (rpxSz)

237 Miklos did it. *pours Diogenes beer thru USB port*
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:11 PM (Dhht7)


You Sir, are a scholar ands gentleman!
Thanxs!

Cheers!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 05:33 PM (mBL57)

238 235 Northernlurker @ 201- don't worry about the green fairy, or was that the Blue Fairy?
Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 05:31 PM (UUkQp)

As long as it's not the South Bend Fairy

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 05:34 PM (NWiLs)

239 Well, I guess this belongs on the food thread. Wacko vegan activist chick pirates go topless and hijack a Burny campaign appearance to protest his support of the dairy industry. I guess, cows have tits, too.

https://bit.ly/2SvXLqM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 05:34 PM (+y/Ru)

240
And the first?

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 05:34 PM (LkbqK)

241 We have induction capable cookware.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 05:35 PM (tT0V4)

242 I've never lost weight when sick.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:35 PM (zYoUB)

243 187 Bone Apertite ya'll

I made fajita chicken quesadillas with green chiles instead of jalapenos in them with an extra spicy guacamole on the side.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM (CKxoR)


I have to admit I just love it when the crazies turn on each other.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:35 PM (TdMsT)

244 That rainbow cake looks delicious.

Posted by: Mayor Pete at February 16, 2020 05:35 PM (EgshT)

245 Laphroig: Seaweed and Iodine, strained through campfire ashes. Not bad. Not for wusses, 'tis true.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 05:36 PM (d2mYc)

246 I am replacing my oven this spring
do I go with the old timey electric heating element type or get one of those fancy smooth top ranges

Posted by: DB- just DB


If you plan to do any canning, please check this out before buying a flat cooktop:

preview.tinyurl.com/d87fyn3

Also, not recommended to use cast iron cookware on flat cooktop, due to scratching and risk of breakage.

But! They look so professional and are much easier to keep clean.

Good luck with your decision!

Posted by: JQ at February 16, 2020 05:37 PM (whOIk)

247 Eat Mor Chikin

Posted by: Burlesqe Cow at February 16, 2020 05:38 PM (aKsyK)

248 I'm now having a Greed, one of the seven deadly gins--gin, limoncello, pineapple and tonic water.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:39 PM (zYoUB)

249 olddog, I have been meaning to mention to you to look into Aloe Vera juice. It has benefitted a couple people I know that have done chemo.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM (CKxoR)

250 DB. Love gas for the cooktop and electric for the oven. Not sure of your price point. Look at Thermador gas cooktops. Very nice. Easy to clean. Looking at them for our new house. Again pricey. Will actually but a rangetop not a cooktop.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM (N3JsI)

251 During the week I cook with electric - I celebrate my Viking during the weekends. Random post, sorry.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM (SwWMX)

252 DB - If you do any canning, you do not want a smooth glass top range.
Not recommended by the range makers or the pressure canner manufacturers.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM (RfzVr)

253 248 I'm now having a Greed, one of the seven deadly gins--gin, limoncello, pineapple and tonic water.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:39 PM (zYoUB)


That sounds delicious.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:41 PM (TdMsT)

254 I've had a flat glass top electric stove. I hated it.
I have a 6 burner gas Viking stove top now. I love it.
I also have a single burner induction cook top for cooking the random thing outside like fried food or fish. The induction is world's better than a regular glass cook top but I still prefer my gas cooktop to all else.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 05:41 PM (UUBmN)

255 53 248 I'm now having a Greed, one of the seven deadly gins--gin, limoncello, pineapple and tonic water.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:39 PM (zYoUB)


That sounds delicious.
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:41 PM (TdMsT

It actually is.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:41 PM (zYoUB)

256 248 I'm now having a Greed, one of the seven deadly gins--gin, limoncello, pineapple and tonic water.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:39 PM (zYoUB)


Is the drink called "greed?"

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:43 PM (TdMsT)

257 Just made a batch of shaved brussel sprouts, tossed in olive oil, parmesan cheese, and bacon crumbles.

Redneck tater chips, they is.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 16, 2020 05:43 PM (VcFUs)

258 256 248 I'm now having a Greed, one of the seven deadly gins--gin, limoncello, pineapple and tonic water.
Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:39 PM (zYoUB)


Is the drink called "greed?"
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 05:43 PM (TdMsT

Yes it is. They have a a series called The Seven Deadly Gins.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:45 PM (zYoUB)

259 OT

over 200 means we are also over 100.


At the Daily Caller, Mitt has gone to Germany to sell out Trump and America. Of course, they love him like MSNBC faces after a backstabbing vote.

At least Patty Murray is too stupid to be this corrupt and anti-American.



Republican Utah Sen. Mitt Romney was toasted at the Munich Security Conference Saturday as probably the most courageous lawmaker we have in the United States.

He was governor of Massachusetts early in his career. He was the person who organized the Salt Lake Winter Olympics one of the most successful. He was the Republican nominee in 2012. He's got a doctorate in law from Harvard. And he is probably the most courageous lawmaker we have in the United States, the panel moderator said.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2020 05:45 PM (sy5kK)

260 209 Visited a Trader Joes last summer because I just had to see what *all* the fuss was about.

Pfft.

Couldn't see what *any fuss at all* was about.

The store appeared much cleaner than its clientele, though.
Posted by: JQ


They do have some frozen food items that you don't see in other stores. They have these British type meat pies that are very good, but really high in calories.

Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2020 05:45 PM (+lVUW)

261 well my cooking skills and needs are simple. basically heat n eat. I'm inclined to replace my existing standard electric range with a similar but new model.
The reason I have to replace my stove is because someone I wont say who didn't run the self-cleaning function often enough and now the oven wont cook food right

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 05:46 PM (iTXRQ)

262 They do have some frozen food items that you don't see in other stores. They have these British type meat pies that are very good, but really high in calories.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2020 05:45 PM (+lVUW)

Love me some Pork Pie.

Served at room temperature with some mustard, chutney and pickle.

A cold beer to wash it all down and it's heaven.

It's like a hot dog on steroids.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 05:48 PM (Z+IKu)

263 Trader Joe's dried fruits and chocolate-covered nuts of all kinds for the win!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2020 05:49 PM (sy5kK)

264 The thing about cocktails is they seem to sneak up and kick you in the ass.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:50 PM (zYoUB)

265 ZOD.

Posted by: ZOD at February 16, 2020 05:52 PM (XzT/D)

266 Zod's bowels are percolating. Cider and beef.

Odd.

Posted by: ZOD at February 16, 2020 05:52 PM (XzT/D)

267 Say you gotta broken phone and a broken heart
The boss is on your back and your truck won't start
None of your friends want to listen to Hank
Well I can't fix that, no

But I can fix a drink, pour it on ice
Mix it on up and get'cha feeling right
I can get'cha buzzed, I can get'cha smiling
I can make you feel like you're sitting on an island

I can make it fruity or I can make it strong
All you gotta do is tell me what you want
Put it to your lips, take a little sip
Tell me what you think, yeah
I can fix a drink

Posted by: LeftCoast Jansen, singing in my dreams at February 16, 2020 05:53 PM (sy5kK)

268 Mitt has gone to Germany to sell out Trump and America. Of course, they love him like MSNBC faces after a backstabbing vote.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

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You know who else traveled to Germany?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 05:54 PM (Y4EXg)

269 olddog, I have been meaning to mention to you to look into Aloe Vera juice. It has benefitted a couple people I know that have done chemo.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM
----------------------

Thanks, Ben Had. I'll look into it. Currently, she's preferring ginger-ale due to carbonation. Non-carbonated beverages have been laying heavy in her stomach. Sometimes though I'll mix juice with her ginger-ale.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 05:54 PM (Dhht7)

270 I don't know that I have ever had 'Rainbow cake', but I ever do, I'm pretty sure that it will now be reluctantly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 05:56 PM (ZMWtN)

271 Has anyone here tried a whisky stone?

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 05:57 PM (zYoUB)

272 199. Just got back in and saw your question. I went from not owning a microwave to having a 'built-in' model over the range. I use it a LOT now, even to cook rice. So the default for me would be using the microwave, of course not in the muffin tin though.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 05:58 PM (h/+hH)

273 The best boiled boiled peanuts start with planting Florida Runners or Virginia Jumbos, not any of the Valencia varieties which are only fit for candy making.Another thing about boiled peanuts, when they are dirt-free and clean they smell like ether to me. Now if you have never smelled ether it's because you are not 71 years old. Probably.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 05:58 PM (UUkQp)

274 olddog, it mixes well with anything and especially helpful with digestion.

My business partner is on a bunch of antibiotics and aspirin and it keeps down the nausea.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:00 PM (CKxoR)

275 Making pineapple apricot chicken thighs as we speak.

Contacted utility to see if gas is available in the new community, and we just pay for connection and piping.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 06:01 PM (tT0V4)

276 100 51 ... Pep,

The best rye I've found is Pikesville Rye. It's 110 proof but is smooth and VERY flavorful. And even at state run store prices, it's still under $45. I've been able to try a number of ryes, including Whistle Pig, and none have come close to Pikesville. It is a great value.
Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 04:44 PM (7EjX1)


Pikesville is apparently an older (6 yrs vs. 4), higher proof version of Rittenhouse BIB. I haven't tried it, but Rittenhouse BIB is my go-to affordable Rye, so I'll probably like it.

Sazerac is a bit higher-priced, but very good, and perfect in its namesake cocktail, so I tend to keep it around because sazerac cocktails are great.

Posted by: Splunge at February 16, 2020 06:01 PM (dOV9E)

277 Anything Aussie is OK by me, since my new unattainable except in an alternate universe crush is Luke Bracey. If he likes vegemite so do I!

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:02 PM (h/+hH)

278 even to cook rice.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 05:58 PM (h/+hH)



I know nine ways to make rice paste. I bought a rice cooker.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 06:02 PM (Hg4NE)

279 271
Has anyone here tried a whisky stone?

Posted by: Northernlurker


Yes. It didn't seem to work very well. I'd have to look at the respective heat capacities of ice and stone, but the drink just didn't seem to get as cold. Of course, it also doesn't dilute your drink.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 06:02 PM (T6t7i)

280 @PeterMentes

Bloomberg on why farmers can't work in information technology

MB: "I can teach anyone how to be a farmer 1 dig a hole 2 put a seed in 3 put dirt on top 4 add water 5 up comes the corn"

The skill 4information technology is completely different you need more grey matter

https://tinyurl.com/qvk8rq4


This is guy is going places! LOL!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:03 PM (cF8AT)

281 Boiled peanuts are a specialty in Chiba, Japan. You can go look at waterfalls and eat boiled peanuts.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at February 16, 2020 06:03 PM (F6I9Q)

282 The Chinese version of boiled peanuts is very tasty. They use star anise, and have a lot of character.

Posted by: Splunge at February 16, 2020 06:05 PM (dOV9E)

283 Yes. It didn't seem to work very well. I'd have to look at the respective heat capacities of ice and stone, but the drink just didn't seem to get as cold. Of course, it also doesn't dilute your drink.
Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 06:02 PM (T6t7i

Dilution is part of it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 06:05 PM (zYoUB)

284 Tami, Bloomie displays stupid seven layers deep.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:06 PM (CKxoR)

285 This is guy is going places! LOL!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:03 PM (cF8AT)


Ha! My buddy said he was failure theater I said he was really smart with his money.

He bought the wrong production company.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 06:07 PM (Hg4NE)

286 Hmm, boiled peanuts in Chiba? Have not been there, will keep that in mind next trip, though Chiba was not on my current priority list.

Bloomberg, my gawd.

The amazing thing is that so, so many of the current lib/Dem/"progressive"/whatever public figures are a barely plausibly *parody* of themselves.

The depressing and disastrous things is that much of America is too alien or dumbed down to reject them like the freaks they are.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:07 PM (El6T/)

287 >>Has anyone here tried a whisky stone?
Posted by: Northernlurker

They don't really taste like whiskey and you can break your teeth on them.

Posted by: Aviator at February 16, 2020 06:09 PM (2cuLk)

288 About to go make some more pickled Meyer lemons.

Just slice them as thin as I can, remove seeds, and immerse in a solution that's roughly 1 part white vinegar/1 part water/a few teaspoons of salt and a bit of sugar.

Leave on the counter for week, then refrigerate. Excellent on fish, chicken, even on some cracker hors d'oeuvres, or cut up in certain salads.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:09 PM (El6T/)

289 olddog, it mixes well with anything and especially helpful with digestion.

My business partner is on a bunch of antibiotics and aspirin and it keeps down the nausea.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:00 PM

Looks like Wally-World may carry here. Will try it out. Thank you.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 06:09 PM (Dhht7)

290 284 Tami, Bloomie displays stupid seven layers deep.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:06 PM (CKxoR)

And if he picks Hillary as his running mate, there's no tellin' how many people they can alienate. To the moon!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:10 PM (cF8AT)

291 old timey electric heating element type or get one of those fancy smooth top ranges

You can't use cast iron on a glass top.

Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2020 06:10 PM (FhXTo)

292 Hey, Bloomie doesn't need the mid-west, the south, and the black vote to win.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 06:11 PM (Hg4NE)

293 kallisto - I had a question for you at #199 about a recipe.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 16, 2020 06:12 PM (RfzVr)

294 >You can't use cast iron on a glass top.
Posted by: DaveA

and I have Mom's perfectly seasoned 50 year old cast iron skillet

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 06:12 PM (iTXRQ)

295
You can't use cast iron on a glass top.
Posted by: DaveA

Really? I do all the time.

Posted by: corn and beans at February 16, 2020 06:12 PM (tkNkP)

296 HAHA
Rush says exactly what I am thinking again.

Why don't Buttjuice and his ghey-hub make out on stage ?


America just LERVS deep-tongue kissing males and mutual razor stubble.


C'mon Petie! Show off those totally not twisted and completely non-deviant "family values" and watch those poll numbers SOAR!

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:13 PM (ykID5)

297 It sounds like Whole Paycheck has missed the really big food trend - chaffles (aka cheese waffles). I only heard of it from the sidebar link someone left last week. All the keto recipes out there are overwhelming! I am currently lining up my equipment to attempt some of them. Dash mini-wafflers are surprisingly cheap. Thank you for posting the link, I would never have known otherwise.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at February 16, 2020 06:13 PM (0tmoY)

298 Someone upthread asked about Long Island Duck - I don't know about that however was at a pub that had DBLT on the menu. That 'D' is for Duck, as in duck bacon.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM (h/+hH)

299 Awesome smack-down on the twatters. Guy named James Poulos, responding to the idiotic tweet of the dim Haberman of the NYT, whining about Trump at the Daytona 500.

Just a photo of the WH lit up with rainbow colors, from the day the SCOTUS issued its ridiculous, arrogant, nasty ukaz* on marriage redefinition.

Which was, of course, a gross and unprecedented use of public property and symbols for political (or worse) purposes, a really disgusting display that perfectly illustrated the collapse of the civic culture among the racist-authoritarians.

* regardless of view on the underlying issue

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM (El6T/)

300 Dash mini-wafflers are surprisingly cheap. Thank you for posting the link, I would never have known otherwise.
Posted by: Nancy

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I just use my regular waffle maker. Just make them smaller is all.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM (Y4EXg)

301 298 Someone upthread asked about Long Island Duck - I don't know about that however was at a pub that had DBLT on the menu. That 'D' is for Duck, as in duck bacon.
Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM (h/+hH)

Long Island Duck? That isn't anything like Coney Island Whitefish is it?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM (NWiLs)

302 Metokur has a live stream that started 15 minutes ago.

Posted by: Ahwoo Flu at February 16, 2020 06:15 PM (MQjt2)

303 We enjoyed some Grandpa Jack's Mexican Beans today that I spent much of yesterday cooking. (Not complicated, just long cooking time.) They are very much a comfort food -- the beans get really creamy in texture. Good with over-medium eggs with the yolks running into the beans.

Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2020 06:15 PM (87gB3)

304 Of course you can use cast iron on a glass top range.

I've done it many times.

Whether it is recommended practice is beyond me, and nor do I care.

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 16, 2020 06:15 PM (U2zca)

305 Trader Joe's has a huge selection of fresh flowers at really cheap prices.

Their bakery items are good. And different. Also, their Korean BBQ/Bulgogi sauce is really, really good.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 06:16 PM (sGotD)

306 Awesome smack-down on the twatters. Guy named James Poulos, responding to the idiotic tweet of the dim Haberman of the NYT, whining about Trump at the Daytona 500.

Posted by: rhomboid

---

Link please? Thanks!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 06:16 PM (Y4EXg)

307 Tonypete -

https://twitter.com/PeterMentes/status/1228518467776761856

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:17 PM (El6T/)

308 I have it on very good authority that Unicorns poop cupcakes.

Posted by: Amy Hill at February 16, 2020 06:17 PM (xUVVX)

309 rhomboid - you are the man!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 06:17 PM (Y4EXg)

310 Salt Lake City is plastered with (electronic) billboards praising Sen. Romney's mug with the message, "Integrity Matters."

Paid for by Broadway Outdoor, a Utah-based billboard company. Can't see anything on their website about their politics.

Think they're bucking for a big media buy when he's up for re-election?

http://www.bwayoutdoor.com/about/

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 16, 2020 06:17 PM (Ph5jo)

311 293 hi cfo mom, I answered it at 272.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:18 PM (h/+hH)

312 it happened a bit ago, but the Presidential air armada flew almost directly overhead here @ FOB DeDe, headed for parts NE of here...

(likely Bob Hope airport AKA "BUR")

them Ospreys are LAF, if you've near been near one.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 06:18 PM (SL3Nf)

313 Emmie, I do a smoked pork chop smothered in refries and topped with over easy eggs and then covered with a peach/habanero salsa.

I get the whole beans and eggs thing.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:19 PM (CKxoR)

314 299 Awesome smack-down on the twatters. Guy named James Poulos, responding to the idiotic tweet of the dim Haberman of the NYT, whining about Trump at the Daytona 500.

Just a photo of the WH lit up with rainbow colors, from the day the SCOTUS issued its ridiculous, arrogant, nasty ukaz* on marriage redefinition.

Which was, of course, a gross and unprecedented use of public property and symbols for political (or worse) purposes, a really disgusting display that perfectly illustrated the collapse of the civic culture among the racist-authoritarians.

* regardless of view on the underlying issue
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM (El6T/

Then Twitchy posted this:

https://tinyurl.com/ta3zdkh

Speaking of Twitchy, the dullard Seth Abramson, tweeted this....scroll through, you'll see a response from Michelle Malkin:

https://tinyurl.com/twqfao6

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:20 PM (cF8AT)

315 Ospreys don't seem much louder, say, than MH-53s, but the distinctive sound they make is easy to identify. Much different pitch and rhythm than helicopters.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:20 PM (El6T/)

316 You can't use cast iron on a glass top.
Posted by: DaveA

and I have Mom's perfectly seasoned 50 year old cast iron skillet

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 06:12 PM
----------------------
Skip has commented that he does. Just have to be really careful. I haven't tried it on mine at lake 'coz reasons.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 06:21 PM (Dhht7)

317 The store I don't get everyone's excitement for is Aldi's. I'm told their fakes are good, but I find it weird how they copy the color schemes and just mash up the names of brands. Crispie Rice Snacks for Rice Krispie Treats and they put in the same color box and use the same font. How do they get away with that.

Besides, I don't like buying my fruit next to a vacuum cleaner that's also for sale.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 06:21 PM (sGotD)

318 Have a burner on my Jenn Air glass top go out a couple weeks ago, think its just a replacement part and plug it in, I think.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 06:21 PM (ZCEU2)

319 Poor Bloomie. Losing voters one profession at a time.

Posted by: corn and beans at February 16, 2020 06:21 PM (tkNkP)

320 I messed up a glasstop range when I used the wrong teakettle. It wasn't even at my house either. Thank God for gracious friends who forgave my infraction.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:22 PM (h/+hH)

321 Heck yeah!
Trump sending USBP agents to Sanctuary Cities to drag illegal asses in to the streets.


Or something like that.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:22 PM (ykID5)

322 Mini-Me Bloomberg is never going to be @POTUS.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 06:23 PM (SL3Nf)

323
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2020 06:23 PM (bu7Fg)

324 What does not understanding the constitutional system, or the factual record, or the normal workings of a president in his capacity as chief diplomat, have to do with "integrity"?

Unfortunately the sub-mediocre GOP is nearly unable to rise above "move on!" and "let's do the work of the American people!" and other sub-moronic bromides, so the Dems' trivializing of impeachment, a truly epic blow to the constitution and to centuries of practice, will pass without substantive rebuke (apart from on the margins).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:24 PM (El6T/)

325 "Long Island Duck? That isn't anything like Coney Island Whitefish is it?"

Cleveland Steamer?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 06:24 PM (tT0V4)

326 Another video of Bloomberg that should endear him to senior citizens....this guy is just racking up constituencies....he'll be unbeatable!

@HaMeturgeman

This video of Bloomberg saying we should deny care to people once they're past a certain age (because it isn't worth it) is everything about him which is so awful.

https://tinyurl.com/wlbebqr

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:25 PM (cF8AT)

327 Thanks kallisto. I've been in and out too, guess I missed your reply with the refreshing and trying to keep up.

I bought 10 more pounds of potatoes when I already had 10 pounds. Yikes! This will be a good way to deal with half of them. Love the idea of being able to pull out "just enough" for one meal.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 16, 2020 06:25 PM (RfzVr)

328 Mr. Jackson

*tugs forelock*

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 06:25 PM (Y4EXg)

329 AF1 Flyby.

https://youtu.be/dLHz4xK4sHY


Slightly premature 2020 Trump victory lap.

https://youtu.be/HBbrunsOlF8

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 06:25 PM (1CjJc)

330 Boiled penis? Count me in.

Posted by: zombie jeff dahmer at February 16, 2020 06:25 PM (H5knJ)

331 The American Civil Liberties Union Nauraeen Shah said the policy "will put lives at risk by further militarizing our streets."

Make the Road New Jersey, an immigrant support group, in a tweet accused the Trump administration of "deploying weapons of war to our communities".

Democratic congresswoman Ayanna Pressley, whose district includes Boston, said: "We will not stand for this."

"Let us be clear, this move has nothing to do with public safety, but rather serves only to further the Trump Administration's agenda to intimidate and retaliate against cities that uphold the dignity and humanity of our immigrant neighbors," she said a statement.

Meanwhile, former CBP Commissioner Gil Kerlikowske told the Times the move was a "significant mistake".



Shit just got real.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:25 PM (ykID5)

332 Aldi: Heavy whipping cream 16 oz. $2.09

Jumbo whole cashew halves 30oz. $11.99

The stuff of life. Nuff said.

Posted by: corn and beans at February 16, 2020 06:27 PM (tkNkP)

333 322 Mini-Me Bloomberg is never going to be @POTUS.
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 06:23 PM (SL3Nf)


I hope to God he won't

He's a horror.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 06:27 PM (TdMsT)

334 301 - the only Long Island consumable I know is Iced Tea.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:27 PM (h/+hH)

335 more ayanna

Ayanna Pressley Retweeted

@RepPressley
·
Feb 15
Our communities are not war zones. @DHSgov
must reverse course and immediately withdraw @CBP
tactical teams from our streets and our neighborhoods.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:28 PM (ykID5)

336 210 ...
Muad'dib, Thanks for letting me know. We'll go back to Roth Sugar Bush where we got our last gallon. With the diabetes, it takes a while to go through the stuff.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 06:30 PM (7EjX1)

337 Last election Doomberg won he paid $157. or better
per vote.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 06:30 PM (Hg4NE)

338 Wow....Doomberg sounds like someone I heard before.

Something about those fit for work, to the right. Those that aren't to the left.

All he needs is a splendid black uniform.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 06:32 PM (Z+IKu)

339 I get the whole beans and eggs thing.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:19 PM (CKxoR)


Ben Had, I'm showing up for breakfast tomorrow!

Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2020 06:33 PM (87gB3)

340 cfo mom you could always do gnocchi? Pierogi? I usually am cooking for one or two people, so never had to deal with 20 lbs. of taters, sheesh!

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:33 PM (h/+hH)

341 Fake Paula Deen recipe - missing the pound of butter.

Posted by: Fritzy at February 16, 2020 06:34 PM (VY+MJ)

342
Make the Road New Jersey, an immigrant support group, in a tweet accused the Trump administration of "deploying weapons of war to our communities".

They paved New Jersey and put up a parking lot.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 06:34 PM (aKsyK)

343 Trump also buzzed the Daytona 500 with Air Force One, LOL!

https://twitter.com/mooncult/status

/1229117153644662784

Posted by: Lizzy at February 16, 2020 06:34 PM (bDqIh)

344 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Retweeted
Hispanic Caucus
@HispanicCaucus
#183;
Feb 14

Pres Trump is deploying tactical SWAT-like units to "sanctuary cities". This will only terrorize communities undermine public safety.

We must stay true to our American values #ProtectEachother.

Please, be prepared #KnowYourRights.



Oddly , neither AOC nor Ayanna's Tweets were marked as sensitive material, unlike Trump's innocuous Daytona 500 photo op.

At this point, Twitter is essentially Orwell's Big Brother.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:35 PM (ykID5)

345 i really miss NM pozole

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:35 PM (rpxSz)

346 Emmie, the coffee will be on.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:36 PM (CKxoR)

347 SanFranpsycho said this a.m. that ICE was conducting an operation in Rice-a-roni land too.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:37 PM (h/+hH)

348 @bennyjohnson 2 minutes ago

On this episode of Joe not knowing what state he's in:

https://tinyurl.com/te4occf

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:37 PM (cF8AT)

349 Peanuts are high in phytoestrogens.

Overconsumption of them depletes testosterone and make you into a little bitch.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 06:39 PM (Fmg3Y)

350 REDACTED, just made some cheater's red pozole the other night. Nice end pieces of pork for sale for a very good price, couldn't resist. Slow cooker. Cheating part was using canned red enchilada sauce instead of making my own chile paste. Lazy/no time.

Turned out pretty well, actually, for very low cost and zero effort.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:39 PM (El6T/)

351 The administration of US President Donald Trump has
announced plans to deploy highly trained tactical border control agents
to so-called "sanctuary cities" across the country to boost arrests of
undocumented immigrants.
Members of the US Customs and Border Protection's
(CBP) Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC) will be among the officers
deployed to cities including Los Angeles, Chicago and New York, to
assist Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
Officers will also be sent to San Francisco, Atlanta, Houston,
Boston, New Orleans, Detroit and Newark, New Jersey, CBP spokesman
Lawrence Payne said in a statement on Friday.

YASS SLAY, ICE

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:39 PM (ykID5)

352 >>more ayanna - Ayanna Pressley Retweeted . . .
He's really hit a nerve with this, huh? Earlier today the local news had Ed Markey and Joe Kennedy ranting about it, and also saw Chicago mayor making some stern-faced public statement.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 16, 2020 06:40 PM (bDqIh)

353 Oh I'm just gonna do 10 pounds of mashed for the freezer. We will be able to eat our way through the other 10 pounds as fries, roasted, twice baked, potato skins, potato soup, etc. Lucky to have an extra fridge to keep them cool.

Having an "always hungry" nine year old boy here on a M-F basis helps to keep my inventory in check.

Posted by: cfo mom at February 16, 2020 06:40 PM (RfzVr)

354 Paul Sperry claims Durham has contacted neither McCabe nor Clapper. He's sometimes a bit off on his tips, but interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:40 PM (El6T/)

355 Turned out pretty well, actually, for very low cost and zero effort.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:39 PM (El6T/)

sounds sublime

I love cheating

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:41 PM (rpxSz)

356 Mike Bloomberg likes boiled peanut pate'. Or, so I've been told.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 06:43 PM (Dhht7)

357 Wow. It just started raining buckets.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 06:43 PM (NWiLs)

358 I just ate some P-Nuttles. They're yummy.

Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at February 16, 2020 06:43 PM (ldmQR)

359 Fucking things are LOUD when they hit the roof.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 06:44 PM (NWiLs)

360 Mike Bloomturd

never trust a man with no lips

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:44 PM (rpxSz)

361
Mike Bloomturd

never trust a man with no lips
Posted by: REDACTED


He can buy all the lips he needs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 06:45 PM (aKsyK)

362 Peanuts:
Peanuts or unsweetened peanut butter is one of the magic ingredients that makes Thai stir-fry and dipping sauce one of my go to meals.

Peanuts give amazing flavor to chicken merinaded in lime juice. Add sesame oil, julienned hot peppers and other veggies, ginger and a dash of coconut in your wok with a shot of nuoc mam fish sauce to make a meal that will satiate your tummy and clean out your sinuses (depending on number of peppers and ginger added) .

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:46 PM (ykID5)

363 361
Mike Bloomturd

never trust a man with no lips
Posted by: REDACTED

He can buy all the lips he needs.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 06:45 PM (aKsyK)


He is, but he's buying those fake wax one's.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 06:46 PM (Hg4NE)

364 The burner on my glass top that went was the daily coffee burner, not sure that has anything to do with it going. The small coffee pot just bought yesterday is smaller than the small 6 in burner but as it makes the minimum amount probably won't use it everyday.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 06:47 PM (ZCEU2)

365 353 - yum potato soup, cfo mom!

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:48 PM (h/+hH)

366 Eat red meat, lift heavy things, eat lots of cabbage and live with a f*ck it all attitude.

It'll stave off the soy tits and put lead in your pencil.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 06:48 PM (Fmg3Y)

367 A small amount of peanut butter added to homemade carrot soup is also unexpectedly delicious.

Posted by: corn and beans at February 16, 2020 06:49 PM (tkNkP)

368

Beans with eggs?
Sheeesh.
Next thing you'll be telling me is you eats grits with breakfast instead of fried potatoes n onions.

Posted by: teej at February 16, 2020 06:50 PM (D2xaQ)

369 360 Mike Bloomturd

never trust a man with no lips
Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:44 PM (rpxSz)


Never trust a man with a huge chip on his shoulder and no sense of humor what ever.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 06:50 PM (TdMsT)

370 Bitter Clinger, did I see you asking about the TX MoMe? I could be totally wrong so forgive me if it wasn't you.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (CKxoR)

371 Yay! Time to go to dinner.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (TdMsT)

372 Hey everybody.

Mmmm, unicorn butt cake!!

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (L2ZTs)

373 They used to sell peanuts boiled in brine with star anise at one of the local Asian markets. Those were good.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (6rS3m)

374 gonna be interesting to see Bloomturd debate

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (rpxSz)

375 They paved New Jersey and put up a parking lot.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 06:34 PM

How could anyone tell the difference?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (aetXb)

376 298 Someone upthread asked about Long Island Duck - I don't know about that however was at a pub that had DBLT on the menu. That 'D' is for Duck, as in duck bacon.
Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:14 PM

That was me. I think the diner was in Hackensack.

Posted by: clutch at February 16, 2020 06:52 PM (9UmRs)

377 Wow. It just started raining buckets.
Posted by: Insomniac
--------

Call me when it's raining men.

Posted by: Petey Butterjug at February 16, 2020 06:52 PM (U7Mh9)

378 361
Mike Bloomturd

never trust a man with no lips
Posted by: REDACTED

He can buy all the lips he needs.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

I bet a mustache wouldn't help a bit, either.

Posted by: corn and beans at February 16, 2020 06:52 PM (tkNkP)

379 (pokes peanut after boiling 10 hrs)

it's still tough!!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 16, 2020 06:52 PM (Vy7tf)

380 Gonna call my buddy in Philly to see if La Migra is disrupting the vatos up there. Later -

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 06:53 PM (h/+hH)

381 gonna be interesting to see Bloomturd debate


"Would you, could you, on a box? "

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 06:53 PM (ykID5)

382 Ben Had, some time ago it was mentioned as I was lamenting that there would never be a EastTN MoMe that I should make my way to one of the TX MoMes.

Is one in the offing?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 06:53 PM (Fmg3Y)

383 teej @ 368-Beans and eggs is good, don't recall eating beans with grits but now you mention it.........and throw that potato/onion mix on top while you're at it, and where's my boudin?

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 06:54 PM (UUkQp)

384 Bloomberg debating will be fun.

"Why can't you all just shut up and agree with me?! I'm richer and smarter than you dammit!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (L2ZTs)

385 I don't think they are going to finish the Daytona 500 today. Lots of rain.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (0zDoP)

386 Man, the Dem field is a hot mess....

https://tinyurl.com/w27bedv

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (cF8AT)

387 Eat red meat, lift heavy things, eat lots of cabbage and live with a f*ck it all attitude.

It'll stave off the soy tits and put lead in your pencil.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

That is somewhat reminiscent of Webb Wilder.

"work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big, wear glasses if you need 'em!

Posted by: Miklos, unrepentant Okra-ite at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (QzkSJ)

388 Bitter Clinger, Oct 23/24 because we move slower down here!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (CKxoR)

389 Ben Had, some time ago it was mentioned as I was lamenting that there would never be a EastTN MoMe that I should make my way to one of the TX MoMes.

Is one in the offing?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February




dude, find a thread where someone was not talking about going to next year's momee at benhad"s.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 06:56 PM (HALdu)

390 Shurplus of grapesh means wine prysssshez are dropping
*hic*
YAY!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 06:56 PM (ykID5)

391 I've always thought that the amazing thing that Trump accomplished is the way he decoupled himself from being perceived as a New Yorker

Bloomturd, not so much

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:57 PM (rpxSz)

392 I had peanut soup in a restaurant once. It was one of the best soups I've ever had. It was similar to bean soup but more flavorful.
Posted by: nerdygirl at February 16, 2020 05:18 PM (+lVUW)

And the customer said, "yeah, I know it's been soup. But what is it now?"

Posted by: Just the punchline at February 16, 2020 06:57 PM (LxWV7)

393 You know who else traveled to Germany?

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 05:54 PM (Y4EXg)


You going to tell us?

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 16, 2020 06:57 PM (7s3Gx)

394 386 Man, the Dem field is a hot mess....

https://tinyurl.com/w27bedv
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (cF8AT)

in the worst way

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 06:58 PM (rpxSz)

395 Bitter Clinger, I also saw your comment about where the after NOVaMoMe party was. I had already asked Weasel that question.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:58 PM (CKxoR)

396 Paul Sperry claims Durham has contacted neither McCabe nor Clapper. He's sometimes a bit off on his tips, but interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 06:4

No way!

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at February 16, 2020 06:58 PM (M20vx)

397 Bitter Clinger, Oct 23/24 because we move slower down here!

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 06:55 PM (CKxoR)

I think I'd be down for that.

Be a helluva road trip. Is there info up yet somewhere?

My email is hash + 72 at gee male.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 06:58 PM (Fmg3Y)

398 dude, find a thread where someone was not talking about going to next year's momee at benhad"s.
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 06:56 PM (HALdu)

....

Sorry. I pop in here usually on a break at work or once I'm buzzed at 2 am.

I don't keep up as much as I should.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 07:00 PM (Fmg3Y)

399 Bitter Clinger, when you see an email from murphywong, that would be me

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 07:02 PM (CKxoR)

400 Sorry. I pop in here usually on a break at work or once I'm buzzed at 2 am.

I don't keep up as much as I should.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February



just funnin ya

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 07:03 PM (HALdu)

401 OK, I know I am annoying with my Wuhan SARS comments, so I try to keep minimum.

(I should be working now anyway)

Here is my theory: Xi has said he was in control from start. Now why would he say this?

Well, If he says he was not in control, then easy to blame him since he is leader. If he says he is in control, then he can blame people who work for him for not following his orders.

Yesterday he came out and said he was in control since beginning, which means early Jan (at latest) when decision was made to hide from public. This was big mistake.

So I think Xi is under pressure to resign. Not only are public dying, but even CCP members! Doesn't virus know who they are! So Beijing is in lockdown and party members no longer feel invincible. Xi is to blame.

I really think we are seeing end of CCP.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 16, 2020 07:03 PM (LWu6U)

402 Bitter Clinger, the Gub Thread will be loaded with luxurious TxMoMe info.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:03 PM (UUkQp)

403 Thanks all.

Gotta run, but I will look for email and read through gub thread.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 07:06 PM (Fmg3Y)

404 Eromero, You,Jim and I are going to need an advanced planning session midsummer. I will supply the filets.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 07:06 PM (CKxoR)

405 Genntlemen...@ 401, do you think maybe Xi would start a war to get the people to forget the snakeflu?

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (UUkQp)

406 As for the rest of world (Since I do not want to disappear after comment)

I think it is about 50/50 to hit other countries. Japan found dozens of symptomless carriers on cruise ship, and on cruise ship either incubation is very long, or infection is very easy to transmit. Either one means 14 day quarantine is not enough and so maybe carriers will slip though.

The real tragedy is that we have this data out of Japan after 10 days of their testing, but after 2 months in China they tell the world almost nothing.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (LWu6U)

407 Kallisto if you're still here, thanks! I will give one of the lemon -blueberry ones a try.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (yolcu)

408 OK, I know I am annoying with my Wuhan SARS comments, so I try to keep minimum.

(I should be working now anyway)

Here is my theory: Xi has said he was in control from start. Now why would he say this?

Well, If he says he was not in control, then easy to blame him since he is leader. If he says he is in control, then he can blame people who work for him for not following his orders.

Yesterday he came out and said he was in control since beginning, which means early Jan (at latest) when decision was made to hide from public. This was big mistake.

So I think Xi is under pressure to resign. Not only are public dying, but even CCP members! Doesn't virus know who they are! So Beijing is in lockdown and party members no longer feel invincible. Xi is to blame.

I really think we are seeing end of CCP.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy macomplenifest at February



Meh, mebbe

Dictators usually do not brag about having no clue and being out of control.

However, if the wuhanwola thing goes sideways bigly I cold see him getting booted and mebbe an end to them.

The thing about the chicom vs the sovs is that the chinese empire has been a thing much longer than the russian empire.

Who knows.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (HALdu)

409 Genntlemen...@ 401, do you think maybe Xi would start a war to get the people to forget the snakeflu?
Posted by: Eromero at February



no.

he is not trusted enough to do so.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 07:08 PM (HALdu)

410 Ben Had @ 404- I have talked to Jim already and will need at least 2 weeks advance notice.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:09 PM (UUkQp)

411 You really sold me. I can't wait to tolerate Vegemite!



The hell is wrong with you people? There's not enough things in Australia to kill you, you have to invent new one?
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 04:42 PM (ZLI7S)



No, wait, it might also cause a gout flare up!

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 07:09 PM (6rS3m)

412 olddog, i think i read last week that mrs. olddog was done with her chemo. Hooray!!

The ginger-ale she enjoys probably helps with the waves of nausea. Just the smell of ginger worked for me but sipping ginger-ale or eating a few ginger snaps made the nausea bearable.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (yolcu)

413 Posted by: Eromero

OK, that is different question. Short answer is no.

Long answer is that my fear of war has always come from the PLA who are so indoctrinated in their propaganda that they think war with US is inevitable and that China will win, and the sooner the better.

So in a sense, Xi has been focusing on his slow takeover approach and was protection against real war.

If he is axed, then situation is more risky, but overall better for world since the evil empire will be in disarray and less powerful.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (LWu6U)

414 They used to sell peanuts boiled in brine with star anise at one of the local Asian markets. Those were good.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 06:51 PM (6rS3m)

They might be edible without the anise. Hate, hate, hate anise, and anything that contains it. Truly pukeworthy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (LxWV7)

415 >>Hate, hate, hate anise, and anything that contains it. Truly pukeworthy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

None of my anise cookies for you!

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 07:17 PM (yolcu)

416 They might be edible without the anise. Hate, hate, hate anise, and anything that contains it. Truly pukeworthy.


May I interest you in a black licorice and fennel salad with anise dressing?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 07:18 PM (gd9RK)

417 I'm going to be a contrarian here. Boiled peanuts are the worst thing I have ever eaten.
Posted by: Aud at February 16, 2020 04:46 PM (uBywd)


Ooh. I have a bucket list for you!

Daikon Kimchi!
Lutefisk in cream sauce!
Surstromming!
Hakarl!
Durian!
Jackfruit congee!
Oporto style tripe!
Tripas Fritas (fried chitterlings)!

Nom Nom Nom

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 07:18 PM (6rS3m)

418 Nom Nom Nom

72 hour psych hold...

Posted by: Gabby Johnson at February 16, 2020 07:21 PM (7s3Gx)

419 None of my anise cookies for you!
Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 07:17 PM (yolcu)

Thanks, very thoughtful of you.

416
May I interest you in a black licorice and fennel salad with anise dressing?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 07:18 PM (gd9RK)

Sorry. Fresh out of goats, starving or otherwise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 07:22 PM (LxWV7)

420 What in the hell is wrong with these people



https://tinyurl.com/r2vaam8
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 05:13 PM (cF8AT)


Is it just me, or does Bloomberg radiate "President Skroob"?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (6rS3m)

421 However, if the wuhanwola thing goes sideways bigly I cold see him getting booted and mebbe an end to them.



The thing about the chicom vs the sovs is that the chinese empire has been a thing much longer than the russian empire.


And while there is a lot of Mexican asses that eed to be kicked out, there is no way that the current ICE BORTAC deployment is unrelated to Chinese infiltration by Bat-soup flu carriers.

If that shit WAS in fact a chemical weapon, who the hell do think they planned to launch it against?


This just stepped up the timing.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 07:26 PM (ykID5)

422 er biological weapon

Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 07:27 PM (ykID5)

423 gub nood

Posted by: Miklos, still unrepentant Okra-ite at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (QzkSJ)

424 Dutch licorice reminds me of urine. Not that I've ever had urine.

Posted by: Northernlurker at February 16, 2020 07:34 PM (Uu+Jp)

425 deplorable unperson


I don't think it was bio weapon.

I think it is possible (maybe plausible, but not >50% chance) that it was accidental release from their lab. They had incident in fall where workers were splashed with bat goo while taking samples and had to be isolated. But down the block people are butchering and eating the same bats, so why worry about some bat blood splashed on skin? There is more to that story.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 16, 2020 07:38 PM (LWu6U)

426 Cuck Wallace giving bootygig a tongue bath on Fox.

*hurl*

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 07:41 PM (1CjJc)

427 I think it is possible (maybe plausible, but not >50% chance) that it was accidental release from their lab

I don't know. Everything is a weapon to Commies bent on world domination on a shoestring budget.
But whatever the context, there is no doubt that there are Chinese national carriers here in the US. Hope those BORTAC agents glove up and mask up.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 07:43 PM (ykID5)

428 But whatever the context, there is no doubt that
there are Chinese national carriers here in the US. Hope those BORTAC
agents glove up and mask up.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 07:43 PM (ykID5)


CDC is currently of the opinion that it is specifically virulent against Chinese, Meh for everyone else.

However, if you want to worry, worry about the vagrants crapping on the sidewalk, and it getting airborne as an aerosol when the city comes by to powerwash it all away.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 07:45 PM (6rS3m)

429 Anise is definitely a love/hate flavor. I'm not a fan of fennel in italian sausage. I prefer garlic

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (XI1YR)

430 Yeah... tried them in Charleston a couple years back... they were okay.

Daughter went to the German resturant this summer, said it was great, have sign saying they have been in business since the middle ages...

And rainbow cake is made in layers baked separately.

Posted by: petunia at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (4FqDg)

431 Mark Levin's guest is ripping the lid of FDR's sleaze tactics that point the way for the Dems to this day.

Posted by: Mr. Azelastine at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (2oYEN)

432 Does anyone remember pouring salted peanuts into a bottle of Pepsi or Coke and drinking it down with the peanuts? I have only met Southerners who do this so I assume it is a regional thing.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (/bKlZ)

433 Enjoyed the comment in re the Wurstkuche in Regensberg.My wife and I have taken a number of river cruises on the Rhine and Danube over the years and this was always a favorite stop. The restaurant has been flooded a number of times but always pops back up. On the wall of the building behind the restaurant there is a record of the high water marks and some of them are about at roof level.

Posted by: javapoppa at February 16, 2020 11:06 PM (vOBba)

Is It Time To Cut Puerto Rico Loose, Or Completely Take It Over?

Puerto Rico, an unincorporated territory of the United States, was struck by hurricanes in September 2017. These storms left the island devestated.

Hurricane Irma struck Puerto Rico in early September 2017. Two weeks later, on September 20, Hurricane Maria made landfall in the municipality of Yabucoa. When the debris settled, almost 3,000 people were dead, thousands more were displaced, and the island’s already aging infrastructure was severely weakened. The island’s antiquated power grid, which had been neglected for years, took an especially hard blow. Immediately after the storm, at least 1.5 million people were left without electricity, some for almost a year, casting the island into the longest blackout in U.S. history.

Of course "climate change" was blamed. As we all know, living in the middle of an ocean has no risk whatsoever. And there is no reason to build your infrastructure accordingly for example.


When the scolds came up for air, it was "Orange Man Bad"."

The mouthy representative was joined by Miami Representative Donna Shalala, who said:

“It’s been almost 2 1/2 years since Hurricane Maria devastated the island, but the Trump administration continues delaying the disbursement of billions of dollars in disaster relief for Puerto Rico. Rebuilding Puerto Rico cannot continue to be postponed due to bureaucratic inertia in Washington.”

Not all of the problems with Puerto Rico's recovery were Washington's fault. The duly elected governor resigned.


And of course we can't forget about aid wasting away in warehouses.


The government of Puerto Rico is either inept or corrupt. I'm starting to think there are more inept individuals there than corrupt. The latest news from Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico’s government fell victim to a $2.6M email phishing scam

The government of Puerto Rico has revealed it fell victim to an email phishing scam, with the attackers making off with more than $2.6 million in stolen funds.

On February 12, the finance director of the island’s Industrial Development Company, Rubén Rivera, filed a compliant to police, noting the agency wired the funds to a fraudulent account, AP reports.


The transfer purportedly took place on January 17, after the agency received an email which suggested there has been a change to a banking account tied to remittance payments, according to a police statement.


It's time to say "Buh-bye" Puerto Rico. Give them a set amount of money and let them sink or swim on their own. Without Uncle Sam's cash trough to prop them perhaps they will get serious about governing. There is no need to take them as the 51st State of the U.S.A. as we have enough incompetent states. (Looking at Illinois and California)

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 02:15 PM




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1 I have the same attitude I have towards more money for schools. Show me you can spend the money intelligently, and that people will be held to account for incompetence / malfeasance, and we can talk. Absent that, LOLGF.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (T6t7i)

2 Roomy

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (gMngZ)

3 new one!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (ghFVE)

4 First?

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (/UQ/R)

5 no way!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (UUBmN)

6 Dang! Read the content. Rookie mistake

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (/UQ/R)

7 It's time to say "Buh-bye" Puerto Rico. Give them a set amount of money and let them sink or swim on their own.

Agree with this, but since Puerto Ricans are US citizens, what happens when the entire island decides to move to the mainland?

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (T6t7i)

8 Take it over and all you gain is another failed Democrat state

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM (ZCEU2)

9 8
Take it over and all you gain is another failed Democrat state

Posted by: Skip


That doesn't speak English.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM (T6t7i)

10 Porto rice...

Not in my lifetime

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 02:21 PM (QTR/U)

11 2 Democrat Senators, 1 or 2 Democrat Congressmen, and a pile of debt to be paid by taxes from 50 other states.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 02:21 PM (ZCEU2)

12 Take it over and all you gain is another failed Democrat state

Posted by: Skip

That doesn't speak English.


Like California will be soon.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 16, 2020 02:22 PM (SchxB)

13 Dammit MisHum! I have work to do, and these meaty postings are wrecking my plans! Put up some Yoko.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:22 PM (2ygtH)

14 Just what we need, a really corrupt 51st state. Cut 'em loose.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 02:23 PM (cF8AT)

15 sorry...

porto pobre...!

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 02:24 PM (QTR/U)

16 I say cut them loose. They seem to hate the USA anyway. Why on earth do we cling to this useless speck anyway?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:24 PM (KZzsI)

17 Cut em loose.

Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at February 16, 2020 02:25 PM (cJqki)

18 I say cut them loose. They seem to hate the USA anyway. Why on earth do we cling to this useless speck anyway?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The colorful parades.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:25 PM (2ygtH)

19 I say cut them loose. They seem to hate the USA anyway. Why on earth do we cling to this useless speck anyway?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:24 PM (KZzsI)
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Coaling stations in the Caribbean.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 16, 2020 02:25 PM (jW9oF)

20 "Make them a state!!"

Posted by: Every Idiot DemonTard at February 16, 2020 02:25 PM (7Fj9P)

21 Former (cheating) manager of the Red Sox (Alex Cora) now has plenty of time to save P.R.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (VYwSh)

22 I disagree, because I think with even a tiny bit of competent management Puerto Rico could be one of the most wonderful and profitable spots in the entire Caribbean. Our Congress over the last 50 years deserves every bit of the blame that anyone on Puerto Rico does, they have used it as a toy to scam money out of and nothing more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (V2Yro)

23 I remember not long after one of the hurricanes in the midst of one of those :look at all the suffering Trump is causing" stories, the reporter accidentally committed an act of journalism and mentioned that most of the destroyed buildings were never built to code in the first place.

Taking it over would require an attempt to change the culture from banana republic to first world republic, and I doubt it's possible. Heck, I'd probably resent it if I were them.

Sell it to the Chinese.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (Wm5SB)

24 willowed,

lin-duh! good to see you! How are you feeling?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (PkVlr)

25 Cut the cord. Sink or swim, Puerto Rico. It's up to you.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (XxJt1)

26 I disagree, because I think with even a tiny bit of competent management Puerto Rico could be one of the most wonderful and profitable spots in the entire Caribbean. Our Congress over the last 50 years deserves every bit of the blame that anyone on Puerto Rico does, they have used it as a toy to scam money out of and nothing more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (V2Yro)
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Well, so could Gaza, for that matter, but look at who the locals have chosen to run the place.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 16, 2020 02:27 PM (jW9oF)

27 We probably need to reel them in with a strong dose of Conservative oversight.
If not I bet the Venezuelan and Cubans will find the resources to put a Brigade on the ground and render the case moot.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 02:27 PM (axyOa)

28 They don't "hate the US" - they hate the way the US has mismanaged them, and they're right on that count.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:27 PM (V2Yro)

29 Yup, PR is a sad almost failed state. Cut them loose. Let the citizens move to the mainland or remain on the island and remain as peurto ricans the limbo between not a state but being us citizens is not working.

Posted by: USNtakim at February 16, 2020 02:27 PM (0OmEj)

30 Cut em loose, I just don't know how that really goes down legally. But don't send another nickel their way and they'll go off on their own real fast.

I'm glad Trump pushed back on his critics, but at the end of the day, even he basically gave them what they wanted so he wouldn't be called a racist. Just money down a rabbit hole.

Posted by: Blago at February 16, 2020 02:28 PM (sjTfF)

31 Clearly, Trump is looking for a quid pro quo...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:28 PM (/dN1M)

32 We probably need to reel them in with a strong dose of Conservative oversight.
If not I bet the Venezuelan and Cubans will find the resources to put a Brigade on the ground and render the case moot.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 02:27 PM (axyOa)
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Haiti had the best time since they threw out the French when the U. S. was running the place, and look what happened when we left.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM (jW9oF)

33 How dare you ... call Illinois incompetent ... they are 99% corrupt, and very competent at it.


that means the Richard Daly gang, that was passed down to his son, then to Madigan. And Chicago, the commie capital of the US, gives us Obama, Hillary (spent some time there) ... lots of commie forces operate out of Chicago ... they must be competent, only our governors go to prison, not the main Crime Lords.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM (Cus5s)

34 Well, so could Gaza, for that matter, but look at who the locals have chosen to run the place.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn. at February 16, 2020 02:27 PM (jW9oF)\

Gaza is infected with the poison of Islam. That's incurable. Puerto Rico is still very Catholic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM (V2Yro)

35 Sell it to the Chinese.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at February 16, 2020 02:26 PM (Wm5SB)


Trade it to Denmark for Greenland. Denmark needs a Caribbean outpost.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM (aS1PU)

36 22
I disagree, because I think with even a tiny bit of competent
management Puerto Rico could be one of the most wonderful and profitable
spots in the entire Caribbean.


And with $1000B I could run the world. The problem is that corruption is part of the culture, and achievement isn't, so unless you're willing to pick up the white man's burden and force them to do things your way, it's up to them to change it. I, for one, feel no need to save the world.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:30 PM (T6t7i)

37 Agree with this, but since Puerto Ricans are US citizens, what happens when the entire island decides to move to the mainland?
=================
they basically are. A local contractor group my company helps sponsor was tripping all over their dicks to tell us how easy it was to recruit laborers from PR. "No immigration requirements!" This is the one downside to Trump's economy, there's a vacuum for skilled/unskilled jobs being filled with a permanent Dcrat voter base.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:31 PM (7Fj9P)

38 urse,
Thanks for asking. Yes, I'm feeling better but still feel tired all the time. Also a bit of dizziness and light headedness. I guess that just means I'm not over it completely yet. I think it took me about 3-4 weeks before I felt myself again last time I got the flu.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 02:31 PM (UUBmN)

39 competent management.

i doubt anyone in puerto rico understands that concept.

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 02:31 PM (QTR/U)

40 Well, so could Gaza, for that matter, but look at who the locals have chosen to run the place.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn

Hmmmm, it's almost like there is a racial or cultural component in play.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (2ygtH)

41 Move all the bureaucrats to PR and turn Washington into a theme park. Trumpworld.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (Tnijr)

42 Sell Puerto Rico to Britain.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (Hg4NE)

43 PDT and Melania!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (ghFVE)

44 39 competent management.

i doubt anyone in puerto rico understands that concept.
Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 02:31 PM (QTR/U)


The lack of which is the defining characteristic of all Third World countries.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:34 PM (7p0Hn)

45 Trade them to Canada. What do we want from Canada? Not Ontario or Quebec.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:34 PM (u82oZ)

46 Appoint Alex Cora to direct the rebuild. I hear he has time these days.

Posted by: mr tmz at February 16, 2020 02:34 PM (m/Gc2)

47 Cut it loose.

Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2020 02:34 PM (AMIL/)

48 41 Move all the bureaucrats to PR and turn Washington into a theme park. Trumpworld.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (Tnijr)


Genius

The District of Puerto Rico

Not a city
Not a mayor
Not a vote

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:34 PM (Hg4NE)

49 What do we want from Canada?
===============
British Columbia. That province is awesome.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:35 PM (7Fj9P)

50 Swap it for Iceland.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:35 PM (2kj6M)

51 We have been carrying them for decades after decades. I say give them nothing and cut them lose. But the Democrats will howl. But the House will not be able to stop it since they are a treaty. Also remove the ability of them to travel to the US unless they get a visa like any other country. And remove their right to vote if the set one foot in the US.

Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2020 02:35 PM (mpXpK)

52 "The government of Puerto Rico is either inept or corrupt."

At some point, there is no distinction.

Posted by: Schuler at February 16, 2020 02:36 PM (ySdHR)

53 "...casting the island into the longest blackout in U.S. history."

If Trump would just build a train going to Puerto Rico I could go there and take some money from Trump's vault and with the help of my family we will make Puerto Green again!

Posted by: AOC at February 16, 2020 02:36 PM (Vy7tf)

54 If you want to see what PR is like, all you have to do is hit every city from New Haven CT to Holyoke Mass.

Puerto Ricans at least in this area were brought in to pick tobacco and never went back.

3-4 generations now and English is their 2nd language.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 16, 2020 02:37 PM (VYwSh)

55 50
Swap it for Iceland.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


Now there's an idea. Best vacation spot on planet Earth.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:37 PM (T6t7i)

56 Close the border first, or we'll have a flood of 'refugees.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 02:37 PM (wc1vX)

57 They don't want *us*. I'm okay with that. Give them a set amount of cash and pull out EVERYTHING that ties them to the USA. Sink or swim d*ckheads, sink or swim.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:37 PM (a4qVe)

58
Trade it to Denmark for Greenland. Denmark needs a Caribbean outpost.
Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM (aS1PU

We brought what are now the US Virgin Islands from them before our entry into The Great War.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 02:38 PM (qyH+l)

59 And with $1000B I could run the world. The problem is that corruption is part of the culture, and achievement isn't, so unless you're willing to pick up the white man's burden and force them to do things your way, it's up to them to change it. I, for one, feel no need to save the world.
Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:30 PM (T6t7i)

The core problem is, it's US that is enforcing, enabling, and backing the corruption! We always have.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:38 PM (V2Yro)

60 Trump up to microphone!

Jets taking off....

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 02:38 PM (cF8AT)

61 Devil is in the details ... we can't just surrender all our efforts at global influence ... give them over to China. But the corrupt DeepState is so entrenched, every effort at "spreading democracy" ends up in Barisma/Ukraine style grift on a hug scale.


Soros and the Foundations love their NGOs, and fund them with tax-free income. Ukraine could be the start of cleaning up our "World Policing used for oligarch profiteering" game. We need to engage with neighbors and allies around the world, but cut the DeepState middle men out of the process. (not so easy when witnesses like Epstein, Whitey and Seth disappear ... and patriots face oppressive persecution and malicious prosecution)

Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 02:38 PM (Cus5s)

62 Trade it for Greenland. The Danes need somewhere warm to go and Greenland is rightfully ours in the first place.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:38 PM (gd9RK)

63 Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn.

We closed Naval Station Roosevelt Roads at the PR government's request. And closed an excellent Vieques Island training area also.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (u82oZ)

64 The government of Puerto Rico is either inept or corrupt."

At some point, there is no distinction.
Posted by: Schuler at February


***

And sprinkled liberally with Latin machismo bullshit.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (axyOa)

65 Annnnd friggin' Fox goes to commercial. WTFF!?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (cF8AT)

66 Shit. Second with that idea. Fucking Horde.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (gd9RK)

67 There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (KZzsI)

68 43 PDT and Melania!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (ghFVE)


FOX Broadcast managed not to show this.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (Hg4NE)

69 Oh, yea, they can't move to Florida either, no passport no visits. Amp up the Coastguard on the Florida coast.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (a4qVe)

70 There's only 3.6 million people on the entire island, less than most major US urban areas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (V2Yro)

71 Of the two choices, CUT THEM OFF.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (pw+jk)

72 Fox has become what they used to mock.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (PkVlr)

73 So Trump just finished speaking. What a breath of fresh air this man is. I don't recall hearing the word "I" even once.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (XxJt1)

74 Good afternoon!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

My Internet works! Yeah. Now my wife can shop.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (u82oZ)

75 Say what you will about the Ottomans, but they knew how to govern territories such a Puerto Rico.


Do what you are told or Rape, Plunder, Pillage.



HQ School of Business 101

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (HALdu)

76 The District of Puerto Rico

Not a city
Not a mayor
Not a vote
Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:34 PM (Hg4NE

But more than ten miles square.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (qyH+l)

77 The core problem is, it's US that is enforcing, enabling, and backing the corruption! We always have.

Posted by: Tom Servo


It's not quite so simple, but I agree we should stop subsidizing the corruption. It's like a lazy 20-something in your basement. If you don't make them shift for themselves, they've no reason to grow up.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:40 PM (T6t7i)

78 fox sucks. that is all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (KP5rU)

79 they basically are. A local contractor group my
company helps sponsor was tripping all over their dicks to tell us how
easy it was to recruit laborers from PR. "No immigration requirements!"
This is the one downside to Trump's economy, there's a vacuum for
skilled/unskilled jobs being filled with a permanent Dcrat voter base.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:31 PM (7Fj9P)
______________________________________________My old boss when I was in college hired a lot of PRs to work in his restaurant kitchen. They all universally disparaged America as inferior to Puerto Rico in every way, but could never answer why they were living in the States.

Posted by: elliot at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (k94B5)

80 There is something about the tropics which seems to
corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and
incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


Great observation! (steals idea, slinks off.)

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (2ygtH)

81 Have we ever cut anyone loose? What will it be called ? Conscious uncoupling ??

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (zr5Kq)

82 If we're gonna move Washington DC anywhere, I say it should be somewhere in the Aleutian Islands, not a tropical paradise.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (KZzsI)

83 When I visited there the Tour guide from Ireland and a Botanist and did tours of the side for extra money, He said most of the Population was on welfare over 70%. They could grow coffee but they are too lazy to pick it so it has to be imported. He would fit in here.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (dKiJG)

84 Welcome back to cyberspace, Salty.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:42 PM (XxJt1)

85 Wait, I tuned in to Hick Rally to see PDT and you're telling me it happened and they didn't show it?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:42 PM (gd9RK)

86 There is something about the tropics which seems to
corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and
incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor




Has something to do with the rum fueled incest

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:42 PM (HALdu)

87 The Daytona 500 is coming on. It's like a giant Trump rally. Lap in The Beast. The Thunderbirds. And hundreds of thousands of screaming deplorables.

Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2020 02:42 PM (E7vND)

88 Greenland is nice. Cold though.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:42 PM (zr5Kq)

89 67
There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and
ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like
a belt of sloth and failure around the world


The funny thing is that my personal mentor and scientific hero is of PR ancestry. He grew up in NYC (Brooklyn, maybe?) and was twice the worker and 10x the brain I ever was.

Posted by: pep at February 16, 2020 02:43 PM (T6t7i)

90 We have a sister church in Campo Alegre, PR that we have been sending aid to over the past few years.

One of the things that they noted to us is that after the hurricanes, the professional individuals that had the means fled to the the US, leaving behind mostly unskilled laborers, impoverished low education individuals and elderly and disabled, all who lacked the resources to leave.

So basically, they are attempting to rebuild the island and care for the elderly and infirmed with relief workers and unskilled laborers. When skilled individuals are needed the most, they are the least available.

This is a glimpse at what will happen, IMO, if our own government attempts to turn socialist. The best and brightest will flee leaving an ever increasing incompetent citizenry to try to sort out increasingly difficult problems.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 16, 2020 02:43 PM (MMC4G)

91 There's nothing wrong with Puerto Rico per se, i.e., geographically.

What's wrong with Puerto Rico is it's full of Puerto Ricans. Same thing with South America, Africa, and the Middle East (sans Israel).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:43 PM (7p0Hn)

92 85: you would be correct. fox blows flaming clown boners.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 16, 2020 02:43 PM (KP5rU)

93 I get that working in 150% humidity and 120 degree weather is damned unpleasant but that doesn't explain everything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:43 PM (KZzsI)

94 My dear departed Dad once made the observation (as we were strolling through Acapulco) that he's never been anywhere that Spanish was the primary language that wasn't totally corrupt. I've yet to see evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:44 PM (OMsf+)

95 Greenland is nice. Cold though.
Posted by: runner at Februar




No puerto ricans

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:44 PM (HALdu)

96 The government of Puerto Rico is either inept or corrupt.

-
Yeah, right. Inept "or" corrupt.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

97 One of the things that they noted to us is that after the hurricanes, the professional individuals that had the means fled to the the US, leaving behind mostly unskilled laborers, impoverished low education individuals and elderly and disabled, all who lacked the resources to leave.

Aka "social distillation."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:44 PM (7p0Hn)

98 Melania is dangerous. Probably part of Trump's initial attraction.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:44 PM (Hg4NE)

99 81 Have we ever cut anyone loose? What will it be called ? Conscious uncoupling ??
Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (zr5Kq)


Phillippines?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:45 PM (7p0Hn)

100 The government of Puerto Rico is either inept or corrupt.

-
Yeah, right. Inept "or" corrupt.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February



Is there someone here not familiar with the power of "and"?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:45 PM (HALdu)

101 The Daytona 500 is coming on. It's like a giant Trump rally. Lap in The Beast. The Thunderbirds. And hundreds of thousands of screaming deplorables.
=================
They should deploy the mini-gun are spit off a bunch of blanks. Truly a triggering moment!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:45 PM (7Fj9P)

102 Lease it out to China ?

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:46 PM (zr5Kq)

103 94 - Spain?

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 02:46 PM (0Dnge)

104 Cut. It. Loose.

Next.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at February 16, 2020 02:46 PM (jWe5r)

105 The funny thing is that my personal mentor and scientific hero is of PR ancestry. He grew up in NYC (Brooklyn, maybe?) and was twice the worker and 10x the brain I ever was.

Supposedly Jamaicans are super hard workers -- when not in Jamaica. 3 jobs, work all day long. Its the region, somehow. Everything comes too easily, its too relaxed and comfortable to care, and too hot to work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:46 PM (KZzsI)

106 @CurtisHouck

Video: Trump addressing the #Daytona500 audience pre-race to raucous applause -> "My fellow race fans, there is no greater thrill than to join you at the World Center of Racing for the 620nd second Daytona 500 -- so exciting!"

https://tinyurl.com/rx6l6c6


For those that missed this because Effing Fox cut to commercials....

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 02:47 PM (cF8AT)

107 this fox broadcast in mind numbing. retarded even. so fucking many layers of stupid.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 16, 2020 02:47 PM (KP5rU)

108 Spain?

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 02:46 PM


Hell, that was his *first* experience, in the early 60s.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:47 PM (OMsf+)

109 not so

The Greenland natives have been crushed by alcoholism and no jobs. The Danes emigrating to Greenland took most of the good jobs.

Hrothgar's book Tuning the Rig was very helpful in pointing this out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:47 PM (u82oZ)

110 Trump needs to make a visit to puerto rico.

When he gets up to make his speech he needs to begin by asking

"WHAT THE FUCK IS WONG WITH YOU!?"

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:47 PM (HALdu)

111 Trade it for Greenland. The Danes could use a warm vacation land.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 02:48 PM (+y/Ru)

112 My dear departed Dad once made the observation (as we were strolling through Acapulco) that he's never been anywhere that Spanish was the primary language that wasn't totally corrupt.

Long, long ago the Spaniard had honor and was hard working and productive. Then they discovered the new world and found an ocean of cheaply obtained riches. Shiploads of MILLIONS of dollars of silver every year. Slaves working for basically nothing to produce ship loads of food sold for a fortune.

After like 30 generations, they're all lazy as hell and corrupt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:48 PM (KZzsI)

113 {{{creeper}}}

How are you doing? I trust you are well, and a survivor of another OK winter.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:48 PM (u82oZ)

114 not so

The Greenland natives have been crushed by alcoholism and no jobs. The Danes emigrating to Greenland took most of the good jobs.

Hrothgar's book Tuning the Rig was very helpful in pointing this out.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February




meh

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:49 PM (HALdu)

115 The Daytona 500 is coming on. It's like a giant Trump rally. Lap in The Beast. The Thunderbirds. And hundreds of thousands of screaming deplorables.
-------------------------------------
'MURICA!!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 02:49 PM (0zDoP)

116 Supposedly Jamaicans are super hard workers -- when not in Jamaica. 3 jobs, work all day long. Its the region, somehow. Everything comes too easily, its too relaxed and comfortable to care, and too hot to work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:46 PM (KZzsI)


You can kind of see that at work in Hawaii. Life is just too easy ("ain't no ting, bruddah"). It's not as though you have to plan and lay aside resources to get through a bitter winter. The weather is clement all year round.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:49 PM (7p0Hn)

117
The core problem is, it's US that is enforcing, enabling, and backing the corruption! We always have.



And we're making a bundle!

Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2020 02:50 PM (wc1vX)

118 The think I dislike about PR is that a lot of their case law is focused on Spanish (as in the current legal system in SPAIN) precedents.

I would not be concerned so much if it were based on Spanish Colonial case law, after all the goal was a continuity of legal systems, customs and usages, but since there has been 5 serious changes in Spanish governments and their laws since 1898, if renewal is required I would feel a focus on English common law would be more germane.

That and to be honest, I don't deal much with people from PR, but the ones I have made me think fondly of the Cubans I have had to deal with. Cubans have some sort of sense of humor for one.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 02:50 PM (6rS3m)

119
This is a glimpse at what will happen, IMO, if our own government attempts to turn socialist. The best and brightest will flee leaving an ever increasing incompetent citizenry to try to sort out increasingly difficult problems.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger


Where will they go?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (aKsyK)

120 did I miss Trump's lap at Daytona?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (iTXRQ)

121 Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Nah. That's how we got the American Virgin Islands.

Buy Greenland outright, make it an American economic zone, site a lot of missiles there, and then trade Puerto Rico to Canada for draft picks to be named later.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (u82oZ)

122 Spain was corrupt before they found the Americas.

Story goes that only the accountants and ships captains knew how much gold was carried back to Spain.

The captains and accountants became very wealthy.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (Hg4NE)

123 Phillippines?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:45 PM (7p0Hn)


True. They were not US citizens though, were they ? That adds a complication.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (zr5Kq)

124 99 81 Have we ever cut anyone loose? What will it be called ? Conscious uncoupling ??
Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (zr5Kq)

Phillippines?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:45 PM (7p0Hn

PI manage to have daily blackouts in goodweather.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (Vy7tf)

125 Two of the first Spanish words I was taught were "propina" and "mordida".

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (XxJt1)

126 70
There's only 3.6 million people on the entire island, less than most major US urban areas.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (V2Yro)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------It is estimated that 5.8 million Puerto Ricans live in the states.
I remember listening to the President of Ireland talk about 4 million people living in Ireland and 30 million people in the US of Irish descent. The numbers were pretty eye opening.

Posted by: elliot at February 16, 2020 02:51 PM (k94B5)

127 68 43 PDT and Melania!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (ghFVE)


FOX Broadcast managed not to show this.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (Hg4NE)

WTF are you doing Fox, I don't give a shit about Shamus,

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (dKiJG)

128 Here's a 17-second clip of PDT in the Beast taking a lap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEJlVdzgC0

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (ghFVE)

129 The thing I know about puerto ricans is that their women do not seem to know that you should not cheat on your new husband with your exboyfriend in the hotel where the husband works.


re: my neighbor

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (HALdu)

130 Trump and Melania now trackside.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (OMsf+)

131 Donald Trump has arrived. Melania looks nervous. Trump is in his element.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (0zDoP)

132 Give up Puerto Rico or try and save it, an age old problem

One the one hand, its always going to be filled with, well, Puerto Ricans - so, corrupt and lazy and stupid. Sorry, Carmen, who I know lurks here.

On the other hand, you don't want those filthy ChiComs or CubeComs to get their bloody hands on it - because they'll turn Ricans into corrupt lazy stupid communists in a heart beat, another island threat off our coast.

I'd let it go, but with a caveat - we'll turn the place into rubble unless they sign a status of force agreement into perpetuity.

Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 02:53 PM (32YRo)

133 Does anyone have a link to the Beast on the track?

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:53 PM (XxJt1)

134 Thanks, m.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:53 PM (XxJt1)

135 Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Inland. A USexit, with rumps on either coast.

Prepare for expeditionary warfare to return CA and NY to America.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:53 PM (u82oZ)

136 https://preview.tinyurl.com/u57rctw

Start of the race.

PDT and Melania again!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:54 PM (ghFVE)

137 As a former resident I can say with confidence you are never going to reform PR. It is culturally more in sync with Latin America than the US.

Set it free.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 02:54 PM (ZLI7S)

138 there he is

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 02:55 PM (iTXRQ)

139 There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
--------

First you learn the native custom
Soon a word of Spanish or two
You know that you cannot trust them
Cause they know they can't trust you

Posted by: J. Buffet at February 16, 2020 02:55 PM (2kj6M)

140 Spain was corrupt before they found the Americas.

I think it all started with Umayyad rule.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:55 PM (OMsf+)

141 heard '4 more years'

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 02:55 PM (iTXRQ)

142 There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
--------

First you learn the native custom
Soon a word of Spanish or two
You know that you cannot trust them
Cause they know they can't trust you
Posted by: J. Buffet
---------

Send lawyers, guns, and money.

Posted by: W. Zevon at February 16, 2020 02:55 PM (2kj6M)

143 The anthem singer is stationed at Bolling AFB in DC.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 02:56 PM (0zDoP)

144 I LOVE these announcers.

"In Jesus's name we pray."

National Anthem!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/u57rctw

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:56 PM (ghFVE)

145 131 Donald Trump has arrived. Melania looks nervous. Trump is in his element.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (0zDoP)


She's got that cat's eyem watching you look.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:56 PM (Hg4NE)

146
There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

=======

Too effin' true.

It may be related or not, but I had an experience with attending a Puerto Rican friend's wedding in Puerto Rico. He just about lost his mind over his family's behavior. He explained to them up, down, sideways, and back again, getting their affirmation at every sentence, that this time it had to be different. His American friends were flying in, he'd hired American friends as the minister, the photographer who would do candid outdoor photos of the wedding and the reception (to take place at the same venue boom-boom), and to do the cooking for the reception, so they HAD TO BE ON TIME FOR HIS WEDDING.

I couldn't believe how casually his family arrived 2 hours late, with the photographer having lost most of her light and the food gone cold. Just *sauntered* in.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2020 02:56 PM (G51Gf)

147 runner

We had plenty of Philippines citizens serving in the US Navy after it became independent.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:56 PM (u82oZ)

148 You betcha, creeper.
Stuff's hard to find!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:56 PM (ghFVE)

149 Maybe that's why the Aztec's had to lop off some heads in order to get some work done.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:57 PM (dKiJG)

150 GO AIR FORCE! !

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 02:57 PM (0zDoP)

151 That girl can sing!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:57 PM (ghFVE)

152 lol BF just called spitting mad because FOX cut away from POTUS. I told him to relax and switch to YT.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 02:57 PM (0Dnge)

153 Long, long ago the Spaniard had honor and was hard working and productive. Then they discovered the new world and found an ocean of cheaply obtained riches. Shiploads of MILLIONS of dollars of silver every year. Slaves working for basically nothing to produce ship loads of food sold for a fortune.

After like 30 generations, they're all lazy as hell and corrupt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:48 PM (KZzsI)

The other factor was that at the same time all this wealth poured in, in the 1500's and 1600's, the Spanish Monarchy set up a massive Bureaucracy to run everything, which was accountable to no one but itself. ALL of the Spanish speaking countries inherited this system, and IT more than anything else is the source of the constant corruption.

For hundreds of years, the only way for anyone to get anything done has been to find the proper official, big or small, and pay him off.

How to run Puerto Rico - put in place a provisional government, and have all posts staffed by NON Puerto Ricans with no connections to the island - and rotate them out of their postings every 6 months.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:57 PM (V2Yro)

154 Yeah, if you set it free it is going to be named Wuhan Rico within days.


Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (HALdu)

155 Christopher R Taylor

Explain Singapore.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (u82oZ)

156 Daytona. Thunderbirds, Trump and Melania, God Bless America sung, Star Spangled Bannervous sung.

Tough day for liberals.

Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (E7vND)

157 As mentioned above corruption is the key ingredient of inept, or the other way around.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (ZCEU2)

158 156 Daytona. Thunderbirds, Trump and Melania, God Bless America sung, Star Spangled Bannervous sung.

Tough day for liberals.
Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (E7vND)

Maybe they'll get with the program.
Could happen!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:59 PM (ghFVE)

159



"AND"




Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:59 PM (HALdu)

160
There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world


Nothin' to do but help help Ginger and Mary Ann make coconut creampies.

Posted by: Hillary! at February 16, 2020 02:59 PM (wc1vX)

161 155 Christopher R Taylor

Explain Singapore.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (u82oZ)

Old Chinese culture + a Benevolent Dictator.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 03:00 PM (V2Yro)

162 Did Fox cut away because of MurdochSpawn or because Bloomberg insisted with his ad spend

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 03:00 PM (8Kudz)

163 162: the power of and.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 16, 2020 03:00 PM (KP5rU)

164 81 Have we ever cut anyone loose? What will it be called ? Conscious uncoupling ??
Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 02:41 PM (zr5Kq)

As mentioned above, Philippines. Northern Marianas, "kind of". Returned Iwo and Okinawa, and some other islands, to Japan.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 03:00 PM (qyH+l)

165 156 Daytona. Thunderbirds, Trump and Melania, God Bless America sung, Star Spangled Bannervous sung.

Tough day for liberals.
Posted by: Redenzo
-----------------------
They're not watching.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:01 PM (0zDoP)

166 Tom Servo

Ass: On top of a British colonial governance system.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:01 PM (u82oZ)

167 156 Daytona. Thunderbirds, Trump and Melania, God Bless America sung, Star Spangled Bannervous sung.

Tough day for liberals.
Posted by: Redenzo at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (E7vND)

And "The Beast" on the track.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 03:01 PM (qyH+l)

168 Canal Zone.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:01 PM (XxJt1)

169 Explain Singapore.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:58 PM (u82oZ)

Old Chinese culture + a Benevolent Dictator.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February




British colonial rule

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (HALdu)

170 Watching Daytona, the opening.

What a difference! The NFL can go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (SELQh)

171 cut it

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (ONvIw)

172
Long, long ago the Spaniard had honor and was
hard working and productive. Then they discovered the new world and
found an ocean of cheaply obtained riches. Shiploads of MILLIONS of
dollars of silver every year. Slaves working for basically nothing to
produce ship loads of food sold for a fortune.



After like 30 generations, they're all lazy as hell and corrupt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:48 PM (KZzsI)


Not really. Spain has always been corrupt. The riches of the Indies just made it worse. Prior to the end of the reconquista it was a collection of warring principalities, just like the German states, and there is a place to say Catalonia was a cut above, but on the whole, opportunistic, power grabbing strongmen. Once the crown got all the power and all the money, it was more of the same in a bigger sandbox.
Spain's saving grace was local autonomy and local laws, but even that went by the board with the liberal reforms to consolidate power after the Napoleonic wars

Franco was pretty honorable, but even he had to bend to the needs and wants of the power blocks in the kingdom. Even the absolute dictator had to bend a bit.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (6rS3m)

173 They're not watching.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:01 PM (0zDoP)

Yeah, they're most likely watching Bill Moyer reruns on their local PBS station...

Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (32YRo)

174 My God Trump's wife is so damn Hot.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (dKiJG)

175 Did The Beast make a lap? Did I miss it?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (sGotD)

176 Add: On top of a British colonial governance system.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (u82oZ)

177
Explain Singapore.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
----------

#&$!&# guns were pointed the wrong way.

Posted by: Winston Churchill at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (4bd7D)

178 >>There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent.

It's hot, there is a lot of rum, sand, ocean and palm trees.

I don't think we need a Congressional inquiry to solve this mystery.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 03:03 PM (ZLI7S)

179 175 Did The Beast make a lap? Did I miss it?

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (sGotD)

Most of us missed it. Fox decided commercials were way more important.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:03 PM (cF8AT)

180
British colonial rule
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (HALdu)


refusal of Keynesian money theory, and Socialist economic theories.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 03:03 PM (6rS3m)

181 Bloomberg insisted with his ad spend

-
How Mini Mike thought it would be.

https://bit.ly/38xsGZr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:03 PM (+y/Ru)

182 Fox actually interviewing 2 Scoops on camera

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 03:03 PM (iTXRQ)

183 175 Did The Beast make a lap? Did I miss it?
Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (sGotD)

128 Here's a 17-second clip of PDT in the Beast taking a lap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEJlVdzgC0
Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:52 PM (ghFVE)

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:04 PM (ghFVE)

184 Bitter hack, bitterly hacking....

@maggieNYT

Using the official apparatus of government for what appears to be a political event

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:04 PM (cF8AT)

185 British Colonial Rule had its ups and downs. Didn't do so well here in the States.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 03:05 PM (V2Yro)

186 Lived in the Republic of Panama for a while. As far as I am concerned, we could cut Puerto Rico loose and let it sink or swim. Spanish colonial is not the best way to rule a nation.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 03:05 PM (WFcrO)

187 As mentioned above, Philippines. Northern Marianas, "kind of". Returned Iwo and Okinawa, and some other islands, to Japan.
Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 03:00 PM (qyH+l)

so, possible. none given US passports, none were US citizens, though, right ? ( You can serve in US armed forces without being citizen.) will be taken over by China or Mexico, maybe turned into full-fledged drug republic within months. too close to home.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 03:05 PM (zr5Kq)

188

one word...

Siesta.

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 03:06 PM (QTR/U)

189 Excellent bit of writing on the sub-topic that's emerged here - what makes for successful vs. unsuccessful economies and countries - was in two adjacent chapters in a PJ O'Rourke book (forget which)

From Everything, Nothing: Tanzania

From Nothing, Everything: Hong Kong

Just the chapter titles have tremendous meaning.

Anyway, been years, but greatly simplified - yep, how you do things, standards, behavior, "culture", not weather or resources.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:06 PM (El6T/)

190 British colonial rule

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:02 PM (HALdu)

Yeah, India sucks. So does Pakistan. Maybe its the Kurdish or Punjab or Pashtun but whatever was the issue - British Colonial Rule couldn't unbake that unholy cake.

Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:06 PM (32YRo)

191 Did The Beast make a lap?

-
Yeah, right. Like Hillary could run a lap.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:06 PM (+y/Ru)

192 I had a chance to speak with several Families that made it to the Mainland after the storms (Boy Scout camp). It is truly sad how the corruption has devastated the country even with out the natural disasters. The Utilities are some of the worst.

Posted by: Picric at February 16, 2020 03:06 PM (nonGu)

193
Most of us missed it. Fox decided commercials were way more important.

Mini Mike commercials

Posted by: It's me donna at February 16, 2020 03:06 PM (6XlcD)

194 Nasty, mean Brits; all of their colonies were force fed discipline, math, reading, and orderly office management. Bastards.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:07 PM (Hg4NE)

195 184 Bitter hack, bitterly hacking....

@maggieNYT

Using the official apparatus of government for what appears to be a political event
Posted by: Tami
-------------------------------------
Livin' large and rent free in Maggie's head.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:07 PM (0zDoP)

196 Most of us missed it. Fox decided commercials were way more important.
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:03 PM (cF8AT)
~~~~~

Jerks.
------------------------------------

128 Here's a 17-second clip of PDT in the Beast taking a lap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kEJlVdzgC0
Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:04 PM (ghFVE)
~~~~~

Thanks, m!

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 03:07 PM (sGotD)

197 thanks rhomboid.
Will look up

Posted by: krusty at February 16, 2020 03:08 PM (QTR/U)

198 184 - now we know at least one libtard was watching!

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 03:08 PM (0Dnge)

199 How are the US Virgin Islands?

Cue Outrage that Trump didn't include the Female Driver.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:08 PM (dKiJG)

200 Yeah, India sucks. So does Pakistan. Maybe its the Kurdish or Punjab or Pashtun but whatever was the issue - British Colonial Rule couldn't unbake that unholy cake.
Posted by: Boswell at February


Which explains nothing.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:09 PM (HALdu)

201 Livin' large and rent free in Maggie's head.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:07 PM (0zDoP)

Wide open space in there for running around...

Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:09 PM (32YRo)

202 What's up with Bloomberg's ad featuring Obama? Is he seriously thinking Obama will endorse him?

Posted by: IC at February 16, 2020 03:09 PM (sYDum)

203 Oh wait....

He may be getting ready to take the lap now!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:10 PM (cF8AT)

204 Which explains nothing.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:09 PM (HALdu)

Don't be obtuse - It explains why British Colonial Rule is not a dispositive reason to give for any one country's success after it has long since left.

Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:10 PM (32YRo)

205 Here weeeeeeeeeee gooooooooooooooooooooo

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (dKiJG)

206 He's going to do a lap.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (Hg4NE)

207 203 I am under the impression that he didn't take the lap yet.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:09 PM (dKiJG)

Maybe that clip was a test run?

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (ghFVE)

208 He's taking the pace lap now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (0zDoP)

209
Bloomberg insisted with his ad spend

-
How Mini Mike thought it would be.

https://bit.ly/38xsGZr
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


Paywall

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (aKsyK)

210 wow we just went w i d e

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (iTXRQ)

211 Patrick from Ohio

They drive on the Left there, but seem more together than Puerto Rico.

We do have some interesting intel resources in Puerto Rico, so we gots that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (u82oZ)

212 Are they going to time the lap?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:11 PM (Hg4NE)

213 Time was when I would agree that we should hold on to PR. But now? Cut it loose. Make it independent. Sink or swim.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 03:12 PM (kFLDt)

214
There is something about the tropics which seems to corrode ambition and ability, just makes everyone lazy and corrupt and incompetent. Its like a belt of sloth and failure around the world
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

=======

Hmm, just stumbled on this:

>>Air conditioning is important for the economy. In machine shops, productivity is at its peak at 65 degrees Fahrenheit with humidity between 65% and 75%. Productivity is 15% lower at 75 degrees and 28% lower at 86 degrees.



There's the laziness thing, which probably contributes to the corruption thing. If you're not going to produce, you'll have to scam.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2020 03:12 PM (G51Gf)

215 Roomy

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 03:13 PM (Y4EXg)

216 PDT gets more press coverage and FREE TV time today than all Democrat candidates combined. Does he know marketing, or what?

Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2020 03:13 PM (AMIL/)

217 so wide

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 03:13 PM (zr5Kq)

218 As Boswell put it, British colonial rule couldn't undo everything bad or unhelpful about a particular place or culture. Question is, how much of what's best about these places has clear roots in British influence (answer, often - a lot). Hong Kong and Singapore being the best examples.

There are quieter, less well understood cases. Oman and Jordan, even the current UAE a bit. Impossible to believe that much of their best governance or civic features would exist without the British influence (which, in those cases, is not merely in the rear-view mirror - "behind every minister is a retired senior British civil servant" is still somewhat the case).

Shortened and AOSHQ'd: "what have the Romans ever done for US?"

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:13 PM (El6T/)

219 Even the absolute dictator had to bend a bit.
Posted by: Kindltot

Occasionally, problem is you don't know when he's going to bend or kill everyone with your mDNA

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 03:13 PM (B7KlG)

220
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:10 PM (dKiJG)

=======

Communist.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2020 03:13 PM (G51Gf)

221 Don't be obtuse - It explains why British Colonial Rule is not a dispositive reason to give for any one country's success after it has long since left.
Posted by: Boswell at February


Your analysis fails to account for dozens of important factors, including geography, history, religion, education, national identity, population size, integration into trading systems.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:14 PM (HALdu)

222 They went to one of the driver's mic's....

"This is great. He's so awesome!"

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:14 PM (cF8AT)

223
Holy Shit this is great
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio

=======

You can simply *tell* a Dad joke. You don't have to pull one.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February 16, 2020 03:15 PM (G51Gf)

224 Holy Shit this is great
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February




How does it look from the barrel?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:15 PM (HALdu)

225 Explain Singapore.

I'm not really sure, it has to be either cultural or religions and cultural.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 03:15 PM (KZzsI)

226 You can simply *tell* a Dad joke. You don't have to pull one.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at February




Swing and a miss, again

He doesn't know he

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:16 PM (HALdu)

227 Ok, lap is done.

Now, someone fix the margins.

Patrick...the barrel is too good for you!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:17 PM (cF8AT)

228 And there are some Private companies there that also need a house cleaning. I worked for Safety Kleen in the 90s and had to help clean up a mess there.

(Yearly corporate site inspections were not done due to remoteness, so after about a 10 year hiatus an announced inspection was done, and everything looked great. About a month later there was a bill to the Headquarters in Elgin, Illinois for about 90 trucks to pick up, drive around the island, and drop off at the same place as pick up. Turns out that the inventory was picked up and driven around while the inspection was going on. The next inspection was about 4 days later. It was unannounced and had Hand cuffs involved.)

Posted by: Picric at February 16, 2020 03:17 PM (nonGu)

229 Hmmmm, it's almost like there is a racial or cultural component in play.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:33 PM (2ygtH)

Race has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. (Corruption and ineptness do not care about your skin pigmentation. The sooner people figure these things out, the better.)

Culture, especially a culture of corruption, DOES, because that is learned and handed down over decades and centuries. It CAN be unlearned, and can be altered while preserving what works. But that as we have seen is not easy.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 03:17 PM (kFLDt)

230 The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Democrats over this makes it all worth it. Well done President Trump.

Now the race. I still don't like the segment racing stuff. Hopefully the rain will stay away. Most of all, not too many cautions, please guys?

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:18 PM (0zDoP)

231 So, how come Patrick from Ohio hates 'rons reading on smart phones?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 03:18 PM (Dhht7)

232 Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:10 PM (dKiJG)

Hey, Patrick from Ohio! You blew the margins.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:18 PM (ghFVE)

233 Double wide. Uptown!

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:18 PM (XxJt1)

234 Two of the first Spanish words I was taught were "propina" and "mordida".
Posted by: creeper

Cervesas

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 03:18 PM (B7KlG)

235 AoSHQ reach around.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:19 PM (Hg4NE)

236 You know it never occurred to me that the thing worse than blowing the margins is no knowing you wrecked the margins.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:19 PM (HALdu)

237 At least I have a 17" laptop.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 03:20 PM (Dhht7)

238 There's an old trick we learned
in typing class. It's the key
at your right little finger
the return key.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:20 PM (Hg4NE)

239 Hmmm it's expansive in here

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 03:21 PM (a4qVe)

240 I just want to know how that gets through. Whenever I try to post a link half as long I get the rejection message.

Posted by: mark1971 at February 16, 2020 03:21 PM (xPl2J)

241 238 AoSHQ reach around.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:19 PM (Hg4NE)

No, just the assfucking without common courtesy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 03:21 PM (NWiLs)

242 Paywall

-
Here's another link.

https://bit.ly/39BWSTa

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:22 PM (+y/Ru)

243 Siesta is a word. So is blowing margins.

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 03:23 PM (zr5Kq)

244 Here's another link.

https://bit.ly/39BWSTa
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:22 PM (+y/Ru)
* * * *

Thanks, AWTW!

How's Charlie?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (WFcrO)

245 Well that's as much NASCAR as I will watch this year. Pretty cool though, I couldn't imagine the dogeater doing anything like that.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (Tnijr)

246 your blog is so fat that when it sits around the house, it sits AROUND the house

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (iTXRQ)

247 Donald Trump Jr. Just posted a pic of a young lady who tweeted earlier from the race her goal was to get Trump to sign her helmet today. He responded "DM me...I may know someone." Then a couple of pics of her, Trump, Melania, Trump Jr., and the girl holding her signed helmet.

Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (yb6r+)

248 FYI,


in the barrel, "banal" does not mean what you think it does

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (HALdu)

249 Now this is really poor form... blowing the margins and then not even sticking around for a cigarette.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:25 PM (XxJt1)

250 Patrick from Ohio did a hit and run, looks like!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:25 PM (ghFVE)

251 Thanks, AWTW!

How's Charlie?

-
He's good except he's developed a bit of a marking problem.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:25 PM (+y/Ru)

252 *turns tablet to landscape*

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:25 PM (XxJt1)

253 It seems to me the only colonies that turned out ok we're under British control. Turn it over to them.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 16, 2020 03:26 PM (6/uwW)

254 Fox Sports is posting little clips of Daytona events, including PDT's laps, now:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/rwyz92l

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:27 PM (ghFVE)

255 Donald Trump Jr. Just posted a pic of a young lady
who tweeted earlier from the race her goal was to get Trump to sign her
helmet today. He responded "DM me...I may know someone." Then a couple
of pics of her, Trump, Melania, Trump Jr., and the girl holding her
signed helmet.

Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (yb6r+)

Hailie Deegan. She finished second in the ARCA race earlier this week. She will go places if she has the talent. She is likeable, unilke Danica Patrick.

Posted by: mark1971 at February 16, 2020 03:27 PM (xPl2J)

256 Your analysis fails to account for dozens of important factors, including geography, history, religion, education, national identity, population size, integration into trading systems.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:14 PM (HALdu)

You being argumentative to be argumentative - Colonial Rule did not work out as a factor in many areas - it ought not be given as the sole reason any one area that had it once became success because - oh, I don't know, maybe
"geography, history, religion, education, national identity, population size, integration into trading systems" were more important

so, to quote you, not Colonial Rule.


Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:27 PM (32YRo)

257 turn me loose

turn me loose

Posted by: PR at February 16, 2020 03:27 PM (rpxSz)

258 @realDailyWire

President @realDonaldTrump: Gentlemen, start your engines.

https://tinyurl.com/rc78e37

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:28 PM (cF8AT)

259 It seems to me the only colonies that turned out ok we're under British control. Turn it over to them.


Posted by: Regular joe at February 16, 2020 03:26 PM

---

Most of the Middle East begs to disagree with that statement.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 16, 2020 03:28 PM (JUOKG)

260 The interesting thing about the British is that while yes, indeed, there are populations that despised British colonial rule, that for the most part, they are not resented as much as you would think. (Hell, in Singapore and Hong Kong the Brits are more or less admired.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 03:28 PM (kFLDt)

261 Shoulda taken typing class with the women. STEM classes were not populated with a lot of women back when I went to school. The Periodic table had 4 elements.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:29 PM (u82oZ)

262 I wonder if the Secret Service told Fox not to comment on how fast the car is going.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 03:29 PM (dKiJG)

263 He's good except he's developed a bit of a marking problem.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:25 PM (+y/Ru)
* * * *

Sorry to hear that. Hope you can get it turned around.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 03:29 PM (WFcrO)

264 250 Patrick from Ohio did a hit and run, looks like!
Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:25 PM (ghFVE)

Yes he did it appears.
And it better stop

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (aA3+G)

265 {cough}..new york...{cough}

Posted by: socalcon at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (Roy2Z)

266 247 Donald Trump Jr. Just posted a pic of a young lady who tweeted earlier from the race her goal was to get Trump to sign her helmet today. He responded "DM me...I may know someone." Then a couple of pics of her, Trump, Melania, Trump Jr., and the girl holding her signed helmet.

Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (yb6r+)



https://tinyurl.com/r3rgloo

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (cF8AT)

267 Thank you for fixing the margins...

Posted by: Max Power at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (llxrS)

268 Phew! Thank you, whichever cob shrunk the margins back.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (XxJt1)

269
turn me loose

turn me loose
Posted by: PR


It always votes to stay. Why wouldn't it?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (aKsyK)

270 Who's doing the halftime show this year? Michael Feinstein?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 03:32 PM (wc1vX)

271 268 Phew! Thank you, whichever cob shrunk the margins back.
Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM (XxJt1)

Thank Tami for alerting me.

I step away to grab lunch and this happens.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (aA3+G)

272 Thank you, MisHum.
Bad, Patrick from Ohio!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (ghFVE)

273 so tell this new-ish commenter what NOT to do to blow the margins

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (iTXRQ)

274 That's much better, MisHum. My eyeballs were wearing out tracking across the page.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (XxJt1)

275 You being argumentative to be argumentative - Colonial Rule did not work out as a factor in many areas - it ought not be given as the sole reason any one area that had it once became success because - oh, I don't know, maybe
"geography, history, religion, education, national identity, population size, integration into trading systems" were more important

so, to quote you, not Colonial Rule.


Posted by: Boswell at February



First off, you decided to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative, then offered a stupid argument.

see - your initiial comment.


British colonialism is not sufficient in and of itself, it was the code for success. They gave it to them. That they decided to adopt and stay with it afterwards was dependent upon and affected by numerous things.

It was the foundation for success.

Why is this hard for you?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (HALdu)

276 Mr. Scott

Jorden and Egypt are better, contrasted with Syria (French). There were not a lot of resources for the colonies and mandates they got after WWI. Malaysia, Hong Kong, India and Singapore were colonies for a lot longer.

I would compare India with Brazil for colonial influence, and both are better than the Congo.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (u82oZ)

277 >>It seems to me the only colonies that turned out ok we're under British control. Turn it over to them.

Some of them became unruly and down right uppity.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (ZLI7S)

278 273 so tell this new-ish commenter what NOT to do to blow the margins
Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (iTXRQ)

Put spaces between words, so the text can wrap.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:34 PM (ghFVE)

279 Move the Haitians to Puerto Rico and the Puerto Ricans to Haiti.

Appoint Billy Jeff as overseer of both and let the rapes begin.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 03:34 PM (Z+IKu)

280 Thanks, Tami. My nascent headache is receding.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 03:34 PM (XxJt1)

281 109 not so

The Greenland natives have been crushed by alcoholism and no jobs. The Danes emigrating to Greenland took most of the good jobs.

We were warned that it was against the law to give the migrating "Dog People" candy when I was at Thule.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 03:34 PM (qyH+l)

282 Select French colonies (Ivory Coast probably tops) actually did very very well for a long time - again, because the French hadn't really left. And they (or at least their elites) were integrated with the metropole (independent first generation leaders typically had served in the National Assembly for years). There was a brilliant and hilarious article in the 80s about how the French had never really left West Africa.

Of course that all fell apart. Some places that weren't as good (Burkina Faso, Cameroon) slid further back, Ivory Coast sadly declined greatly.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:35 PM (El6T/)

283 We may think we don't need naval stations in the Caribbean. We are wrong.

But, the thing to remember is that ten minutes after "we" set Puerto Rico "free" on the international market, every other piss-ant wannabe world power will have a naval station in the Caribbean. Same applies to the USVI, and for that matter, Fort Jefferson in the Dry Tortugas.

Big, cute joke, until you actually fly over it once or read the charts of where the channels are ("channel is," for Tortuga). Do you think you don't need the Gulf Coast open to the Atlantic? Ask the Confederates how that worked out.

If you were about to ask about giving away the Panama Canal, go ahead and ask. One of the stupider things this nation ever did. It's part of China now.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 03:35 PM (8IOEj)

284 For a telling contrast, try Republic of Botswana, the longest lived democracy in Africa, with excellent score for lack of corruption and growth, with the failures in Swaziland.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:36 PM (u82oZ)

285 f you were about to ask about giving away the Panama Canal, go ahead and ask. One of the stupider things this nation ever did. It's part of China now.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 03:35 PM (8IOEj)


Jimmy Carter strikes again.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 03:36 PM (aS1PU)

286 F the 500. For 20+ years I don't think I missed a race. Now, whatever. Thank god I'm recording this cluster.

START THE F'ING RACE!!!!

And when they do, there'll be a caution on lap 5 and 20 and 30 and 47..........

Posted by: Groundhog at February 16, 2020 03:37 PM (VYwSh)

287 Not a NASCAR follower, but .... wow, Trump & Co. are basically hitting grand slam homers every time they turn around, in terms of political marketing.

So good it makes me laugh.

Of course it helps that 1) he actually does love American culture 2) is a hyper-energetic emotional patriot 3) has helped create and presides over a booming economy whose benefits are more far-reaching (within the society) than most booms have been.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:37 PM (El6T/)

288 >>For a telling contrast, try Republic of Botswana, the longest lived democracy in Africa, with excellent score for lack of corruption and growth, with the failures in Swaziland.

My sister lived in Botswana for a couple years. She loved it.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 03:37 PM (ZLI7S)

289 We closed Naval Station Roosevelt Roads at the PR government's request. And closed an excellent Vieques Island training area also.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (u82oZ)

Closed Ramey AFB on the other end of the island ca 50 years ago.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 03:37 PM (qyH+l)

290 I would compare India with Brazil for colonial influence, and both are better than the Congo.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (u82oZ)

Speaking of the Congo.....

https://tinyurl.com/td8ykmh

Roland strikes again.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 03:38 PM (Z+IKu)

291 Way, Way Downriver a

We have to balance strategic gains with strategic overstretch.

We can not even get a clean Presidential;] election in the US of A. Since 1960.

We have some tending in our own garden first.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:38 PM (u82oZ)

292 Yep, Botswana.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:38 PM (El6T/)

293
Of course it helps that 1) he actually does love American culture 2) is a hyper-energetic emotional patriot 3) has helped create and presides over a booming economy whose benefits are more far-reaching (within the society) than most booms have been.



Trump also understands one thing a lot of (GOP) pols don't:

Kiss your supporters' asses, not your enemies'.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 03:38 PM (wc1vX)

294 PDT talked to the Daytona drivers on an official's radio!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/su2avds

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:38 PM (ghFVE)

295 259 lets do apples to apples: the Carribean. Not all successes, but compare the results to the Spanish, Portugese, French, and goddamned Dutch.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 16, 2020 03:40 PM (6/uwW)

296 If you were about to ask about giving away the Panama Canal, go ahead and ask. One of the stupider things this nation ever did. It's part of China now.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 03:35 PM (8IOEj)

It will be replaced by the sea level National Dignity Canal.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 16, 2020 03:40 PM (qyH+l)

297 don't get me started on the Dutch

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 03:40 PM (iTXRQ)

298 If you were about to ask about giving away the Panama Canal, go ahead and ask. One of the stupider things this nation ever did. It's part of China now.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 03:35 PM (8IOEj)
* * * *

Totally agree with you on the Panama Canal. We should never have ceded control. China was staking their claim as soon as the U.S. left the air bases. Huge strategic mistake.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 03:41 PM (WFcrO)

299 Why is this hard for you?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:33 PM (HALdu)

You take your handle here and yourself too seriously

And you're basically a knucklehead

Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:41 PM (32YRo)

300 Rain. They deserve their fate. Putz around for hours with BS (not PDT) and you get what you get.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 16, 2020 03:42 PM (VYwSh)

301 You take your handle here and yourself too seriously

And you're basically a knucklehead
Posted by: Boswell at February



That's why this is hard for you?

So, not your fault, interesting.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:42 PM (HALdu)

302 "Fill it up and give it back" - Sen. Sam Hayakawa, on the Panama Canal issue

"We stole it fair and square" - also Sam, I think.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:43 PM (El6T/)

303 https://tinyurl.com/r3rgloo

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM

Tami, did you see in the comments to Hailie's tweet that Twitter flagged as "includes potentially sensitive content." ?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 03:43 PM (Dhht7)

304 PDT talked to the Daytona drivers on an official's radio!

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Having fun and kicking ass the Trump way.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:44 PM (+y/Ru)

305 We were just in Aruba. While it's a mixture of languages and under the Dutch, people still did their jobs, albeit a bit slowly. We never saw any homeless or panhandlers and we did leave the comforts of our resort. We really loved it there.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 03:44 PM (a4qVe)

306 I live in the disaster zone area from Hurricane Michael. Florida, via Governor Scott and Governor DeSantis, plus the citizens, have made amazing progress in less than a year and a half. If you don't have a strong ethic to help yourself, I don't bl you can ever recover from a major catastrophe.

Posted by: EveR at February 16, 2020 03:44 PM (ZZDMQ)

307 I could t find haileys tweet with the picture.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 03:44 PM (a4qVe)

308 Every once in a while a website comes with blown margins so I try to use the tablet sideways but can only see maybe a paragraph at a time.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 03:45 PM (ZCEU2)

309
It seems to me the only colonies that turned out ok we're under British control. Turn it over to them.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 16, 2020 03:26 PM (6/uwW)



Zimbabwe: What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2020 03:45 PM (Zy4Mt)

310 Donald Trump Jr. Just posted a pic of a young lady
who tweeted earlier from the race her goal was to get Trump to sign her
helmet today. He responded "DM me...I may know someone." Then a couple
of pics of her, Trump, Melania, Trump Jr., and the girl holding her
signed helmet.



Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2020 03:24 PM (yb6r+)







https://tinyurl.com/r3rgloo


Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:31 PM

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And twitter is listing it as "sensitive content" because Trump.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at February 16, 2020 03:45 PM (JUOKG)

311 289 We closed Naval Station Roosevelt Roads at the PR government's request. And closed an excellent Vieques Island training area also.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (u82oZ)

how necessary was it, really? I remember it was a Marine corps bombing range - but everything is going to smart bombs, missiles, drones. It was a training area fit for fighting a Vietnam type war, which we're not going to do again, not in any of our lifetimes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 03:45 PM (V2Yro)

312 how necessary was it, really? I remember it was a Marine corps bombing range - but everything is going to smart bombs, missiles, drones. It was a training area fit for fighting a Vietnam type war, which we're not going to do again, not in any of our lifetimes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February




It was use by carriers for practice

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:46 PM (HALdu)

313 Rain. They deserve their fate. Putz around for hours with BS (not PDT) and you get what you get.
Posted by: Groundhog

I could certainly do without the thing where they announce the drivers and they walk out on stage to loud crappy music, dancing badly, and holding sponsor product.

Posted by: Biergood at February 16, 2020 03:46 PM (yb6r+)

314 Zimbabwe: What could possibly go wrong?

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Thank you, Jimmy Carter!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:46 PM (+y/Ru)

315 Tami, did you see in the comments to Hailie's tweet that Twitter flagged as "includes potentially sensitive content." ?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at February 16, 2020 03:43 PM (Dhht7)

Yes, and people have brought it up in the comments.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 03:46 PM (cF8AT)

316 >>Zimbabwe: What could possibly go wrong?

Bermuda, Canada and a few other colonies in North America turned out ok.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 03:47 PM (ZLI7S)

317 Nuke it from orbit.

Just to be sure.


Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 03:47 PM (ykID5)

318 Spent a week in Aruba (free place to stay), years ago. Windsurfing (turned out to be a bit too powerful, wind-wise, for my level at the time), diving, horsing around.

Ended up eating at one restaurant ..... 3 times.

Peter and Jeannette's. Dutch former math teacher, his Surinamese wife. Indonesian (rijstaffel), with Surinamese twists. Fantastic.

Our group felt funny going their the second time, but by the third, we'd established there was no other "ethnic" place on the island up to our standards.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:47 PM (El6T/)

319 Posted by: Boswell at February 16, 2020 03:27 PM (32YRo)

She was making a funny.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:47 PM (Hg4NE)

320 Nuke it from orbit.

Just to be sure.


Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February



move everybody to one side

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 03:48 PM (HALdu)

321 Vieques was pretty important for NGFS training.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 03:49 PM (tT0V4)

322 Jack, I think the case of Canada is being submitted for additional review ..... (tragically).

Of course - since the UK itself has morphed partly into Orwell's dystopian nightmare, Canada following along is kind of "natural", I guess, even with the citadel of freedom next door.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:49 PM (El6T/)

323 CNN And MSNBC Analysts Sign Petition Urging William Barr To Resign

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Well, if both CNN and MSNBC say so . ..

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:49 PM (+y/Ru)

324 It seems to me the only colonies that turned out ok we're under British control. Turn it over to them.

Posted by: Regular joe at February 16, 2020 03:26 PM (6/uwW)

Zimbabwe: What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 16, 2020 03:45 PM (Zy4Mt)

They threw over the excellent English Legal System (which goes hand in hand with government) and went back to pure Kleptocracy.

One of the main themes that Winston Churchill spoke much about, in his later years, is that the English Speaking People had developed an attitude of practical self governance and contempt for corruption that was almost unheard of in world history, and that because of that the Anglosphere was always going to produce the best, most fair, and most prosperous societies on the planet.

that's not a very "woke" point of view these days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 03:50 PM (V2Yro)

325 Rhomboid was that Madame Jeanettes restaurant?
It's supposed to be one of the best on the island. the area it's in seems sketchy.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 03:50 PM (a4qVe)

326 255:Hailie Deegan. She finished second in the ARCA race earlier this week. She will go places if she has the talent. She is likeable, unilke Danica Patrick.
Posted by: mark1971



If you look at her Twitter feed, you'll see the pic. Twitter deemed it sensitive for viewers so you'll have to click that link so you can view the pic. Twitter is full of sad, miserable people if that pic offends you.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:50 PM (0zDoP)

327 You can't judge the colonies by our standards but by - how were they before and after the Brits.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 03:50 PM (Hg4NE)

328 PR has been a clusterfuck for a long time, thanks in no small part to a former member of FDR's so-called Brains Trust being its governor and entrenching its system of government-run everything.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 03:51 PM (NWiLs)

329 is that the English Speaking People had developed an attitude of practical self governance and contempt for corruption that was almost unheard of in world history,"

Is that the 'acting white' that we always hear about?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 03:51 PM (tT0V4)

330 Tom Servo

I aver that the training you got at Vieques Island is still needed today. I could go into reasons, but we have lots some of our edge in Amphib, Surface, NGFS, and Air Strike Ops because the alternatives are less handy.

Well, except for Fallon. They do a great job, now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:52 PM (u82oZ)

331 Of course - since the UK itself has morphed partly into Orwell's dystopian nightmare, Canada following along is kind of "natural", I guess, even with the citadel of freedom next door.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:49 PM (El6T/)

Canada's problem is that it's a low population country dominated by a handful of big cities, which are just like Northeastern US cities. It's what the Left wants for the US - a US Government which was run only by NYC, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, and San Fran.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 03:52 PM (V2Yro)

332 This "petition" from former DOJ types is darkly hilarious.

After 8 years, then a few more, of the utter politicization and hollowing out of DOJ, capped by the FISA abuse festival, the Mueller outrage and its satellite outrages, *now* they're concerned.

About a probably deliberately provocative stunt by prosecutors who may well have been involved in various kinds of improper conduct? Concerning a nothing case involving no crimes of any importance whatever?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:53 PM (El6T/)

333 323 CNN And MSNBC Analysts Sign Petition Urging William Barr To Resign

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Well, if both CNN and MSNBC say so . ..
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



LOLGF!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:53 PM (0zDoP)

334 Jack you may want to throw in Hong Kong, India, Australia, Malaysia...

Posted by: Regular joe at February 16, 2020 03:53 PM (6/uwW)

335 Never been to Caribbean islands, do the former Dutch possessions still have a connection to Holland?

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 03:53 PM (ZCEU2)

336 333 323 CNN And MSNBC Analysts Sign Petition Urging William Barr To Resign

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Well, if both CNN and MSNBC say so . ..
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


LOLGF!
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:53 PM (0zDoP)

Putting the "anal" in "analysts."

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 03:54 PM (NWiLs)

337 Puerto Rico is still very Catholic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM

So is Venezuela, and all the other central and south American economic basket cases. Means precisely nothing in terms of sustaining a free market economy and the rule of law.Per capita income in PR is far below the poorest U.S. state (Mississippi). The only reason anybody wants to make PR a state is to create another Democratic stronghold. No thanks.


Posted by: Bigsmith at February 16, 2020 03:54 PM (G/mW5)

338 333 323 CNN And MSNBC Analysts Sign Petition Urging William Barr To Resign

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Well, if both CNN and MSNBC say so . ..
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


LOLGF!
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 16, 2020 03:53 PM (0zDoP)

Operation Chaos Bernie Bro might work to shut them up!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 03:54 PM (ghFVE)

339 Skip

They sure usta. I think the support is more subtle these days.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 03:55 PM (u82oZ)

340 >>CNN And MSNBC Analysts Sign Petition Urging William Barr To Resign

The seem afraid of Barr for some reason. Odd.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 03:55 PM (ZLI7S)

341 Cheriebebe, I have no idea - could be? Given the time since I was there, would think Peter would have long since retired (he wasn't young then). She was younger, could be her place.

I don't recall any sketchy areas on the island, and we covered most of it.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:56 PM (El6T/)

342 When it comes down to it, Puerto Rico wants the benefits of someone else paying for everything while they do not have to do anything and their leaders grow fat from graft.

They are kind of like a money digging girlfriend who is past her prime.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2020 03:57 PM (XyVor)

343 San Francisco Mayor Admits to Receiving Thousands of Dollars Worth of "Unreported Gifts"

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The Hell you say!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 03:57 PM (+y/Ru)

344 Skip, I think the ABC islands do. Aruba is still under the Dutch. Things seem very well run there.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 03:58 PM (a4qVe)

345 VIA, good comment, but I would direct our attention to the skin pigmentation of some of the most robustly and thoroughly corrupt places on earth (Belarus, Ukraine, Russia), to point out that people of pallor take 2nd place to nobody when it comes to corruption-capacity.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:58 PM (El6T/)

346 I thought Trump sent disaster relief immediately. Am I misremembering?

I'm assuming the corrupt people appropriated it for themselves.

Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2020 03:58 PM (87gB3)

347 Cut it loose. (Although I enjoyed my trip to PR 20 plus years ago.)

Make it a state and you have one more state in the Deep Blue column.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at February 16, 2020 03:59 PM (d6Ksn)

348 She is likeable, unilke Danica Patrick.

I liked Danica and Jessica's Hardee's commercial.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 03:59 PM (ykID5)

349 MisHum is the hardest working man in show business !

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 03:59 PM (arJlL)

350 I would direct our attention to the skin pigmentation of some of the most robustly and thoroughly corrupt places on earth (Belarus, Ukraine, Russia), to point out that people of pallor take 2nd place to nobody when it comes to corruption-capacity.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 03:58 PM (El6T/)

Let's not forget California and Washington state. Or hell, DC.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2020 03:59 PM (XyVor)

351 So is Venezuela, and all the other central and south American economic basket cases. Means precisely nothing in terms of sustaining a free market economy and the rule of law.Per capita income in PR is far below the poorest U.S. state (Mississippi). The only reason anybody wants to make PR a state is to create another Democratic stronghold. No thanks."

I agree, I only brought that up because someone compared it to Gaza, and since Gaza is infected with radical Islam, it is absolutely a lost cause. We don't like to admit that the PR's aren't capable of governing themselves, but they aren't, and they never will be. I think we need to govern them with that in mind, and it could be done. I don't like the idea of cutting them loose because they'll just invite someone else, like China, to come in and take over, and we don't need to be handing China prime real estate just off our borders, especially not when we already own it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (V2Yro)

352 Food thread is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (XyVor)

353 MisHum is the hardest working man in show business !
Posted by: JT at February



That's why he is so popular with the ladies,

he always works hard.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (HALdu)

354 >>I thought Trump sent disaster relief immediately. Am I misremembering?

Guess who is in charge of straightening out Puerto Rico's finances?

If you said the same woman who was put in Ukraine from 2014 - 2016 to straighten out their's, you win.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (ZLI7S)

355 63 Captain Obvious, Co. Q, 365th Dog Faced Pony Soldier Bn.

We closed Naval Station Roosevelt Roads at the PR government's request. And closed an excellent Vieques Island training area also.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 02:39 PM (u82oZ)


Not true. They were very much against closing RR. I was involved tangentially in that cluster.

There was a group of developers that wanted to put up a bunch of expensive houses on Vieques, which was part of the only range we had that had the capability for live fire on air, sea, and land. You could set up a full blown amphibious exercise with live fire.

Anyway these developers bought a bunch of politicians in PR and also in the US (looking at you, Al Sharpton) to push the US out of Vieques. Eventually, they prevailed.

This had two effects. One, the remaining training area around RR became nothing special. It no longer had a bombing range or any place to do amphibious landings. Live fire ship-based AA exercises would be constantly interrupted by civilian traffic around Vieques. We had other facilities on the coasts and Hawaii with the same capability.

And two, Congress was irritated. They had been tarred as racists and colonialists by virtually the entire Puerto Rican political class. Congress does not like to be irritated, and there was a rather large outlay of military funding they could zero out without affecting a single US voter.

So Congress decided to close Roosevelt Roads, which had been either the second or third largest industry in PR. The locals howled like stuck pigs. Congress was again called racist, and also vindictive. The Puerto Ricans protested and sang hippie songs and wailed and cried and rended their garments. But in the end it didn't matter because they had no longer had anything to offer.

I do not feel sorry for the Puerto Ricans. They brought this on themselves. We should cut them loose, and after a grace period of, say, five years anyone who stays on the island should have their US citizenship revoked. It was only ever granted by an act of congress and can be removed the same way.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 16, 2020 04:01 PM (wGeit)

356 Nood. Food.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at February 16, 2020 04:01 PM (WFcrO)

357 What we really hate to admit is that Puerto Rico could work very, very well if we had the nerve to treat the entire island as one big plantation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 04:02 PM (V2Yro)

358 Hurricane Irma struck Puerto Rico in early September 2017. Two weeks
later, on September 20, Hurricane Maria made landfall in the
municipality of Yabucoa



You people really have trouble with subtle hints.

Posted by: God at February 16, 2020 04:03 PM (ykID5)

359 I don't like the idea of cutting them loose because they'll just invite someone else, like China, to come in and take over, and we don't need to be handing China prime real estate just off our borders, especially not when we already own it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (V2Yro)


Why not give the Chinese a constant drain on the treasury?

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 16, 2020 04:05 PM (wGeit)

360 Ace's liver

Thank you. I thought we told them that RR was not needed if we lost the training areas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 04:07 PM (u82oZ)

361 360 Ace's liver

Thank you. I thought we told them that RR was not needed if we lost the training areas.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 16, 2020 04:07 PM (u82oZ)


I'm sure they were made aware of the possibility and, for whatever reason, didn't take it seriously.

Posted by: Ace's liver at February 16, 2020 04:25 PM (wGeit)

362 I think one of the main reservations about independence for PR was the likelihood of communist intrusion and a new Cuba or Nicaragua forming on the island. And the Democrats have long sought two new left-wing Democrat Senators as they pushed for statehood.

I'd be happy to cut the place loose and let them see what they can do to improve their own lives. Or, in reality, let them see how quickly they can fall apart like the rest of central and south America.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 16, 2020 04:27 PM (/bKlZ)

363 China was staking their claim as soon as the U.S. left the air bases.

Oh, it was worse than that. For decades, there had been talk that one day the old canal would be obsolete, and that a new one would have to be built alongside it.
Unbeknownst to us actual US citizens and taxpayers, most of that work had already been done, concealed in the underbrush. When the Chinese took over, most of the new access to US east-coast ports was already there.
Thank you, US taxpayers!There were hearings before both houses of Congress when the giveaway was under consideration, and this information was never made public. "We" would never have stood for it if the extent of the loss had been known.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 04:32 PM (8IOEj)

364 I'd be happy to cut the place loose and let them see what they can do to improve their own lives. Or, in reality, let them see how quickly they can fall apart like the rest of central and south America.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at February 16, 2020 04:27 PM (/bKlZ)


Yeah, I wonder what would happen. /sarc

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 04:32 PM (mlxZk)

365 I've been to Disney's private island on a Disney cruise we took. LOL! What nationality is that?

Posted by: Chris M at February 16, 2020 04:37 PM (6XZdO)

366 OK, one more pass and then I give up.

We were willing to make global thermonuclear war to avoid giving the Russians a base 90 miles from Florida. And in 1962, snotnose, that was not the name of a computer game. Actual smoking-ruin world war.

But, snide-assed comments about "cutting PR loose" to teach them a lesson. They would quickly learn the same lesson the Cubans did. And apparently that is fine with everybody. Big joke. Well, at least we don't have beards!

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 04:38 PM (8IOEj)

367 You people really have trouble with subtle hints.
Posted by: God at February 16, 2020 04:03 PM (ykID5)

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Lord, ain't that the truth.

Posted by: SMH at how dense people are at February 16, 2020 04:39 PM (RU4sa)

368 Bermuda, Canada and a few other colonies in North America turned out ok.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 03:47 PM (ZLI7S)

It must be remembered that Canada is not a free country. And its people have completely acquiesced, and indeed demanded, the destruction of their liberty; and therefore they are unfit to be free, and incapable of self-government. (h/t, TX Declaration of Independence, 1836)

(And also with apologies to our Canadian friends who post here. CLEARLY, there are exceptions. But they are consistently outvoted.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 04:43 PM (kFLDt)

369 No, take it over (but not as a state). 100 years ago we tried to switch education to English etc. Time to do it again.

Remove the government, Military government, Keep the tax incentives, Switch education and the official language to English only. Screw international peace corps missions, send all those twits to PR to teach English and hand out diabetes medicine.

In a generation it'd be Florida south. Not that that's awesome, but it'd be an improvement.

It's a lovely island, again except for the people. And even some of the people are nice.



Posted by: Dave at February 16, 2020 05:10 PM (KWYbg)

370 Give it back to Spain.

Posted by: Michael L Blair at February 16, 2020 05:16 PM (yiAMj)

371 This piece is unfair. Puerto Rico's status as a territory puts it outside most of the Constitution and denies its people the kind of control they would have if it were a state. I say make it one and then see if they want to live in it or not.

Posted by: jdgalt at February 16, 2020 05:39 PM (3SFo/)

372 PR has been and prolly will continue as a graft raft for Dc swamp critters.
Failure is a built in feature of the Fed disease.

Posted by: daddycrocodile at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM (JpdPK)

373 "Give them a set amount of money and let them sink or swim on their own" is known as 'reparations'. Do that and you'll have just blasted open the door and the whole opposition to reparations will be destroyed. Plus, and you know this as well as the rest of us, it will NEVER stop at a one-time payment. Who are you trying to kid?

Posted by: IRReverend Sharpton at February 16, 2020 05:40 PM (17+9D)

374 The Bahamas get hit more often than does Puerto Rico and don't seem to be particularly distressed. And no, the Bahamas are not all a wealthy yachting club; there are plenty of locals who are no where near the scale of their advertised clientele. Maybe there's a lesson there?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at February 16, 2020 05:44 PM (17+9D)

375 Cut them loose. Now. Puerto Rico is a net cost and a source of shitbag immigrants. Cut it loose. We can be friends. We can be allies. But we are not family and never will be.
Good-bye Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Esteban at February 16, 2020 05:54 PM (6bzH1)

376 I cry for you, Puerto Rico.


Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 16, 2020 06:18 PM (3H9h1)

377 AF1 Flyby.

https://youtu.be/dLHz4xK4sHY


Slightly premature 2020 Trump victory lap.

https://youtu.be/HBbrunsOlF8

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 06:23 PM (1CjJc)

378 Cut American citizens "loose"?
No.
But definitely time to acknowledge that the people there cannot manage their own affairs and have a government put in place for them until a new generation of locals can be educated and trained for management.

Posted by: Sam at February 16, 2020 07:38 PM (ohyxL)

379 agree, I only brought that up because someone compared it to Gaza, and since Gaza is infected with radical Islam, it is absolutely a lost cause. We don't like to admit that the PR's aren't capable of governing themselves, but they aren't, and they never will be. I think we need to govern them with that in mind, and it could be done. I don't like the idea of cutting them loose because they'll just invite someone else, like China, to come in and take over, and we don't need to be handing China prime real estate just off our borders, especially not when we already own it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 04:00 PM (V2Yro)




Tom, I agree... which is more or less the reasoning for the current "halfway house" Commonwealth status of PR. I don't believe it is at all clear that either statehood or independence would be better for either the Puerto Ricans or us.

Posted by: Bigsmith at February 16, 2020 07:41 PM (G/mW5)

380 Dump them. And revoke the voting rights of their citizens in the United States if they don't renounce their PR citizenship.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at February 16, 2020 07:59 PM (gAXBD)

381 >>Skip, I think the ABC islands do. Aruba is still under the Dutch. Things seem very well run there.
Posted by: Cheriebebe

You don't say.

Posted by: Natalee Ann Holloway at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (2cuLk)

Is This The Truck For You?

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(H/T American Digest)


***

As many of you know I live in the northern climbs of the great U.S.A. We face snow from the end of October to May. Now, this is not a bitch fest about where I live. I chose to live here and stay here.

One of the items that makes my life here enjoyable is my Chevrolet Z71 4x4 pick up truck. From towing the boat to a nearby lake, hauling lumber from the local lumber yard or plowing the driveway, I love my truck. Sure, it's a V8 and a gas guzzler. It's the American way and there are numerous gas stations, amirite?

But what about the current or future pickup truck owner who wants to make a lifestyle statement? It appears that the new lifestyle choice will be an electric truck. Several manufacurers are getting into the electric truck market.

There’s a pickup war coming, and it’s going to be electric.

Inspired by the success of Tesla’s performance brand, an army of American startups — and one very large legacy automaker — will roll out five battery-powered trucks over the next two years.

Although we’ve seen only prototypes, sketches and teaser photos of the five electric titans — the GMC Hummer EV, Tesla Cybertruck, Rivian R1T, Lordstown Endurance and Bollinger Motors B2 — they look to be big, powerful and defiantly different. And more truck makers may join the battery-power revolution, including an electric F-150 from Ford.


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Recently Tesla introduced a pickup truck. My humble opinion? It looked like a piece of crap and not practical. Now a new EV truck will be hitting the showroom floors in the near future.

Nikola Corporation has unveiled the Badger, the automaker's first electric pickup truck.

It has a maximum range of 600 miles by using its fuel cell — hydrogen — and battery power sources.

Nikola traditionally manufactures electric and hydrogen-powered vehicles for "heavy-duty" use, including semi-trucks, off-roading power sport vehicles, and jet ski-esque watercraft. This is the company's first time entering the soon-to-be crowded electric pickup truck market.

"I have been working on this pickup program for years and believe the market is now ready for something that can handle a full day's worth of work without running out of energy," CEO of Nikola, Trevor Milton, said in a statement.

They are a nice looking vehicle.

Well that certainly is a big boast. I can see the Badger working for an urban weekend warrior who lives in warmer climates. But what about the Wyoming rancher, Minnesota logger and the other hard working and playing truck owners?

What about charging stations? What about the grid improvements that are needed to provide all the juice for these Evs?


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I'll be looking for a "new" truck this summer. My 1998 Chevrolet with 200,000 miles needs to be put to snow plow pasture only. The EV prices aren't frightening. Look at a fully loaded pickup with a motor.

But for me, I'll stick with the internal combustion engine.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 12:15 PM




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1 No weigh

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 12:18 PM (rpxSz)

2 Just the periodic reminder that the preferred plural of Prius is Prii.

Posted by: Prii Owners at February 16, 2020 12:19 PM (DMUuz)

3 No EV, just no...

Posted by: browndog at February 16, 2020 12:20 PM (gD6Ka)

4 We are looking at Trucks because we want to tow a camper and we are looking at getting a some type of Diesel Truck and we were impressed that they get good mileage along with better towing depending on what we buy.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 12:21 PM (dKiJG)

5 I want a truck!

Posted by: Grannymimi at February 16, 2020 12:21 PM (u5LFV)

6 Prius...ugh

Posted by: None shall pass at February 16, 2020 12:22 PM (JdcHc)

7 2 Just the periodic reminder that the preferred plural of Prius is Prii.
Posted by: Prii Owners at February 16, 2020 12:19 PM (DMUuz)

I thought it was Prius.

Posted by: Yammato, Admiral, IJN, Commander in Chief. Mobile Striking Force at February 16, 2020 12:22 PM (qyH+l)

8 Have a 4wd F-150 but would love a Raptor version so But in the End

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 12:22 PM (ZCEU2)

9 When I fist saw "Prius" I thought it said "Pious".

Posted by: Grannymimi at February 16, 2020 12:23 PM (u5LFV)

10 I still just want a pony.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at February 16, 2020 12:23 PM (EgshT)

11 when do I get a nuclear powered car?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 12:24 PM (G546f)

12
It has a maximum range of 600 miles by using its fuel cell - hydrogen - and battery power sources.

Just drive down to the hydrogen station and top off.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 12:25 PM (aKsyK)

13 A electric truck will never work imo.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 12:25 PM (ZCEU2)

14 Electric cars would fail today without government subsidies and corporate MPG mandates.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 16, 2020 12:26 PM (Ph5jo)

15 The Army has looked into this, especially during the Obama era. A pure electric pickup will never be anything more than a novelty for local use utility only. The driving engineering trade off is, and always will be, between payload capacity and power storage. It's a no-win trade off.

It might, however, make sense to look at a diesel-electric solution, especially with motor-in-hub electric drive.

Posted by: EndOfPatience at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (ttfl2)

16 They named it Prius because it is the antidote to Priapism.

Posted by: batterup at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (K4I9O)

17 The first rule of marketing is understand your customer. I suspect Elon does not know anyone who actually drives a pickup. The crazy a$$ look (notice how similar pickups, even the Japanese ones look.. that's not an accident. The science fiction prop look will not sell except to a few EV groupies)

My daily driver is a 30 year old gas burning Jeep with over 360K miles. And it still goes offroad frequently.

Posted by: jay at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (Lv3Ws)

18 The same people who by a Tesla for show will buy those trucks.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (ZCEU2)

19 northern climes

Unless "climbs" is new slang for mountains.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (Ph5jo)

20 There are Tik Tok memes that use that same format: A bunch of yoots talking about how everyone is different, and don't agree on most things... but everyone agrees that Lele Pons is NOT funny.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (hku12)

21 Northern climes; not "climbs".

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 16, 2020 12:28 PM (tNuhy)

22
These are what I call "urban pickups". Highly polished and shiny trucks that have never seen a sack of cement or a bale of hay.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:28 PM (7rVsF)

23 I like this post. FYI, you might want to say northern climes .

Feel free to delete this post. =)

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at February 16, 2020 12:28 PM (9acFt)

24 What happened to the GMC hybrid that gave you 120VAX outlets, sort of a rolling genset?

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 12:29 PM (B7KlG)

25 Fuel cell makes more sense than pure battery... but where is the hydrogen station? (Insert Zeppelin crash here). Why not a fuel cell that converts hydrocarbons directly to electricity? We can get that gas anywhere.

Posted by: henry at February 16, 2020 12:30 PM (J3Rfi)

26 How about Northern climb climes?

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 12:31 PM (ZCEU2)

27 These are what I call "urban pickups". Highly polished and shiny trucks that have never seen a sack of cement or a bale of hay.

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All pickup, no cattle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 12:31 PM (+y/Ru)

28 The first rule of marketing is understand your customer. I suspect Elon does not know anyone who actually drives a pickup. The crazy a$$ look (notice how similar pickups, even the Japanese ones look.. that's not an accident. The science fiction prop look will not sell except to a few EV groupies)

My daily driver is a 30 year old gas burning Jeep with over 360K miles. And it still goes offroad frequently.
Posted by: jay at February 16, 2020 12:27 PM (Lv3Ws)


I suspect Musk DOES know what he's doing.

I hate American auto makers with a passion of a thousand burning suns, and would NEVER buy anything they make.

Ever.

But I'm going to get a pickup reasonably soon.

Right now my options are Toyota and Nissan. Period.

I wouldn't mind seeing some mold-breaking models from somewhere, but I'm not going to be one of the first to buy one. Somebody will though.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:31 PM (hku12)

29 That picture is soooo true.

On a car board I'm a member of - not Prius or even Toyota - there was a Prius owner on there who considered himself somewhat of an evangelical for the Prius and took every opportunity to tell us we bought the wrong car. He was insufferable and was eventually kicked off the board.I told him once I would never buy a Prius because I didn't want to be thought of as the type of person who would own a Prius.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (TtMOe)

30 sure, my truck use is generally short haul stuff ... I'd be glad to pay $15K for a working electric version, as long as you morons would pony up for the other $55K in real cost. (of course it would be a government tax/debt that would take those 'donations' by force, but don't worry, it is for the greater good)

Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (Cus5s)

31 I just got a used 2017 Ford F-150 XL regular cab for bombing around my AO.

3.5 liter V6 Engine and six speed tranny.

Some old Boomer had it and didn't drive it much, only had 8,000 miles on it. When I went to get it, I lifted the hood and the amount of leaves in there was proof the old bastard never even lifted the hood. Otherwise it was clean as a whistle except for the cab.

I cleaned out the stink and filth left behind by the old coot and the truck now smells, drives and runs great.

Takes 5w-20 oil.......weird.



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (Z+IKu)

32 Northern climes; not "climbs".

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And we're back to Nazis.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (+y/Ru)

33 These are what I call "urban pickups". Highly polished and shiny trucks that have never seen a sack of cement or a bale of hay.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The sole reason SUVs and pickups outsell other models is the CAFE regulations. People want the biggest car they can afford. That's SUV/pickups now.

Automakers can't make big sedans anymore and still hit the evermore-stringent MPG regs. The SUV/pickup lines have lower CAFE mileage standards.

So we're driving bigger vehicles than we need/want, because regs keep automakers from selling us what we want.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (Ph5jo)

34 Oh, c'mon. Electric trucks are fashion accessories for urbanites with necrotic soydick and will never be feasible as anything more than a short-haul station wagon that's missing its roof from the B-pillar back.

Unless you incorporate hydrogen fuel cells or some dramatically new power source, the math makes zero sense. But if ALL you ever have to do is haul a few bundles of 2x4s for a few miles so the Paolo can construct the gazebo your lonely and frustrated wife wants (directly before he meets her other womanly demands) it'll be just fine.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (pftYY)

35 My weekend truck is a '97 Dakota wit a Magnum 318.

There's no replacement for cubic displacement.

Wish it had a 360, but it's enough.

Posted by: jsg at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (Bj1MG)

36 I don't see how one functions in this life without at least one pick-em-up truck!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at February 16, 2020 12:33 PM (BiNEL)

37 Just the periodic reminder that the preferred plural of Prius is Prii.
Posted by: Prii Owners at February 16, 2020 12:19 PM (DMUuz)

I thought it was Prius.
Posted by: Yammato, Admiral, IJN, Commander in Chief. Mobile Striking Force at February 16, 2020 12:22 PM (qyH+l)


You stay out of this, you're dead.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:33 PM (t+qrx)

38 So when I go fishing tomorrow 120 miles one way from home, and the temps are low teens just how much juice will I need to run it, to start it?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 12:33 PM (aA3+G)

39 I still just want a pony.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at February 16, 2020 12:23 PM (EgshT)


I don't want a pickle.

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at February 16, 2020 12:34 PM (t+qrx)

40 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (pftYY)

So I drove to town and back this morning. No hydrogen stations. 3 gas stations that had 3 grades of gasoline and diesel

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 12:35 PM (aA3+G)

41 My neighbor has a Tesla and when it gets really cold he loses 25-30% of battery power, If you are towing a camper you are going to have to drop whatever you are towing so you can fit into the parking spot to charge your truck.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 12:35 PM (dKiJG)

42
Are these electric pickups going to have smoke generators to imitate the assholes who gun their engines to gas the cars behind them?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (7rVsF)

43 re 30 yo Jeep notes above. Here in northern climes the government makes sure to bath our daily drivers in salt. At 350,000 miles my 30 yo Jeep developed an uncomfortable flex in the frame. The newerJeeps strike me as tinker toys.

Posted by: henry at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (J3Rfi)

44 OT, I'm off for a nap, but wanted to share.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/sm8vxsp

Article in local fishwrap about a woman who volunteered at the local VA hospital for almost 50 years.

Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (MTxDQ)

45 In any 3-5 minute drive where I live I will typically see between 3-5 Teslas. It's unusual to even drive the mile to the gas station and not see one. It's a game at this point, like slug-bug used to be. I see far more Teslas than Prius' which gives you an idea of the insane CA kickbacks on buying a 6 figure car.

And I'd say 1 out of 5 has some uber snotty license plate "grn4gaia" or "sokleen" or similar. Fuck I hate these idiots. Even worse they get their commute lane sticker and free subsidized charging stations.

Posted by: clutch cargo at February 16, 2020 12:38 PM (8B6Ng)

46 If I can't drive it across country to see the grandkids it has no value for me.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at February 16, 2020 12:38 PM (Vf4Y7)

47 Are these electric pickups going to have smoke generators to imitate the assholes who gun their engines to gas the cars behind them?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (7rVsF)


Artificial diesel smell would be nice too. I just can't get enough of that diesel smell when I'm at a stoplight.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)

48 So I drove to town and back this morning. No hydrogen stations. 3 gas stations that had 3 grades of gasoline and diesel
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 12:35 PM (aA3+G)

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Oh sure. Diesel-electric could well be feasible. Maybe even for pickups as opposed to long-haul. But Douchebag Logic has two iron rules:

1.) It can't be fuelled by petrochemicals.

2.) It can't be fuelled by nuclear power production.

So, Douchebag Logic is impossible.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 12:38 PM (pftYY)

49 I had a prius and it was a good commuter car, so good my folks bought one. Colorado Front range, we do not get a whole lot of winter temps, and I'd never recommend for areas that get more months of winter cuz the mpg boost suffered quite a bit on cold days.

And for a pickup? Give me the portable energy storage of diesel or gasoline. I tow a heavy trailer so I think the extra costs of buying and maintaining a diesel were an OK tradeoff. My veterinarian was telling me once most of his clients tell him he should have a diesel. I just looked at him and said "but you hardly ever tow, and you don't have a huge trailer when you do"

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2020 12:39 PM (n4y+3)

50 Right now my options are Toyota and Nissan. Period.

I wouldn't mind seeing some mold-breaking models from somewhere, but I'm not going to be one of the first to buy one. Somebody will though.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:31 PM

FIFY. Sadly, Nissan quality, particularly Titan, seems very poor right now. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth for the last few years on the forums and car magazines.

If you can hang on for a year or two, Toyota will be refreshing. The Tundra is a bit dated. OTOH, I own one, and am overall satisfied.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:39 PM (DMUuz)

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:39 PM (DMUuz)

52 Hydrogen is a good way to make an electric-powered car. Clean, proven, reliable nuclear fission is used to produce hydrogen. Hydrogen is transported to convenient refueling stations and used to refill the fuel cells. There you go. Electric car.

Shame about the infrastructure. Someone else get on that. I'm just the ideas guy.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM (t+qrx)

53 Good day MH!

Sent you an email a couple of days ago re Colorado Morondevous

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM (/UQ/R)

54 If you get a Tundra, get the 5.7L V8 and the 38 gal. tank.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM (DMUuz)

55 An electric truck to pull my 30ft horse trailer with 6500lbs of horses in it. I'll be gone before that ever happens.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 12:41 PM (BQEAt)

56 https://tinyurl.com/w5gkypb

Posted by: jollyr at February 16, 2020 12:41 PM (1Ds+X)

57
Shame about the infrastructure. Someone else get on that. I'm just the ideas guy.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM (t+qrx)


Didn't you give a TED talk about this?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:41 PM (7rVsF)

58 Bloomberg forced the NYPD to increase Giuliani's
stop and frisk 6x. If you got found with pot you spent two days getting processed in central processing. This pissed off minority voters and helped give us DiBlasio.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 12:41 PM (8Kudz)

59 Artificial diesel smell would be nice too. I just can't get enough of that diesel smell when I'm at a stoplight.

Posted by: BurtTC


Not to worry. Just get behind me and you'll spend the next 20 minutes going 2 miles, with plentiful stops and long waits, and an exhaust pipe pointed straight back at you.

Posted by: School bus at February 16, 2020 12:42 PM (T6t7i)

60 How energy efficient are electrics when a utility has to burn fuel and then transmit the electricity, and then have it stored in a battery for later use.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (8Kudz)

61 Are these electric pickups going to have smoke generators to imitate the assholes who gun their engines to gas the cars behind them?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (7rVsF)

Artificial diesel smell would be nice too. I just can't get enough of that diesel smell when I'm at a stoplight.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)


Spare a thought for the poor 'ettes, who must keep a spare pair of panties in the car in case they're at a stop light and someone revs a truck.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (t+qrx)

62 What about charging stations? What about the grid improvements that are needed to provide all the juice for these Evs?

Not to mention, what about truck owners who want to work on their own trucks (i.e. maintenance, oil changes, etc.), not take them into the dealer. The electric vehicle underhood setup is nothing like an internal combustion engine underhood. Unless new owners educate themselves on how an electric vehicle works, they are forced to take their vehicle in to the dealer for maintenance they previously did themselves.

The only reason there is even a push by all the vehicle manufacturers to go electric is because of the government regulations and penalties for MPG and GGE (Greenhouse Gas Emissions). In other words, future automobile design is being pushed by lawyers and former bartenders and radicals. Brilliant...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at February 16, 2020 12:44 PM (Do5/p)

63 I would consider an all-electric vehicle to replace my Cruze Eco commuter-mobile, but I do occasionally take long trips (7 hours each way) and would need another vehicle for those.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 16, 2020 12:44 PM (TtMOe)

64 Hydrogen is a good way to make an electric-powered car. Clean, proven, reliable nuclear fission is used to produce hydrogen. Hydrogen is transported to convenient refueling stations and used to refill the fuel cells. There you go. Electric car.

Shame about the infrastructure. Someone else get on that. I'm just the ideas guy.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM


The problem is that Hydrogen is a pesky escape artist (being a very small molecule helps), and embrittles metal over time. Coming up with a reliable and safe distribution network will take effort.

Back in the '70s, the materials science folks were working on ceramic 'pebbles' that would sit in the tank and provide storage via enhanced surface area. Over time, the pebbles broke up and got smaller, and more efficient. I haven't seen anything about that over the years.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:44 PM (DMUuz)

65 How energy efficient are electrics when a utility has to burn fuel and then transmit the electricity, and then have it stored in a battery for later use.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (8Kudz)


You're making the argument for harnessing the clean, reliable atomic power of the future for me here.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:45 PM (t+qrx)

66 Right now my options are Toyota and Nissan. Period.

I wouldn't mind seeing some mold-breaking models from somewhere, but I'm not going to be one of the first to buy one. Somebody will though.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:31 PM

FIFY. Sadly, Nissan quality, particularly Titan, seems very poor right now. Much wailing and gnashing of teeth for the last few years on the forums and car magazines.

If you can hang on for a year or two, Toyota will be refreshing. The Tundra is a bit dated. OTOH, I own one, and am overall satisfied.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:39 PM (DMUuz)


I'm not going big. I don't need big. I'm looking at Frontiers and Tacomas.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)

67
How energy efficient are electrics when a utility has to burn fuel and then transmit the electricity, and then have it stored in a battery for later use.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (8Kudz)


Douchebag thinking says stuff comes from somewhere. Details are for losers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:45 PM (7rVsF)

68 How energy efficient are electrics when a utility has to burn fuel and then transmit the electricity, and then have it stored in a battery for later use.

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Funniest part is, sanctimonious Leftists demanding we all drive cars powered by the clean coal they demand be banned. Jackasses.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 12:45 PM (pftYY)

69 I like my Tacoma. Simple two wheel drive and 110k. Just getting broke in.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 12:46 PM (axyOa)

70 My weekend truck is a '97 Dakota wit a Magnum 318.



There's no replacement for cubic displacement.



Wish it had a 360, but it's enough.

Posted by: jsg


That's close to my weekend truck, a '00 Dakota but with the 5.9/360.
Apparently I don't drive it enough, and had to go to the pick-and-pull last weekend to get a replacement fuel rail, which I just installed yesterday. The friggin squirrels apparently decided to make a home under the 'kota's hood and chewed the crossover tube of the fuel rail (which, naturally, is no longer in production). Thank God for the LKQ pick-and-pulls.

But, humming like a bird again with 224k miles on it.

Now, to find a permanent solution to the friggin tree-rats chewing the hoses under my hood.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 12:46 PM (N4r5a)

71 Back in the '70s, the materials science folks were working on ceramic 'pebbles' that would sit in the tank and provide storage via enhanced surface area. Over time, the pebbles broke up and got smaller, and more efficient. I haven't seen anything about that over the years.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:44 PM (DMUuz)


I'd honestly assumed this was a semi-solved problem at this point, that hydrogen could be kept in suspension with other materials like you mention, without bleeding out of its container.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:46 PM (t+qrx)

72 Not to worry. Just get behind me and you'll spend the next 20 minutes going 2 miles, with plentiful stops and long waits, and an exhaust pipe pointed straight back at you.
Posted by: School bus at February 16, 2020 12:42 PM (T6t7i)

Yup.....and with all the talk of how fat and lazy kids are today it's time to eliminate skool busing and get all those fat assed kids bicycles to ride to their government indoctrination centers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (Z+IKu)

73 An electric truck to pull my 30ft horse trailer with 6500lbs of horses in it. I'll be gone before that ever happens.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 12:41 PM


You could have that today. Torque can be even better than diesel (there's a reason locomotives use diesel/electric motive power).

Getting more than 30 miles down the road before recharging might be problematic, however. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (DMUuz)

74 Spare a thought for the poor 'ettes, who must keep a spare pair of panties in the car in case they're at a stop light and someone revs a truck.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (t+qrx)

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WTF?

Is this a joke?

Posted by: SMH at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (RU4sa)

75 My truck has to have a V8, 4wd, and hold at least 35 gallons of gas. Any other "features" I can do without.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (Tnijr)

76 Diesel hi-lux. Bring them here, and this EV truck stupidity dies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (581br)

77 Are these electric pickups going to have smoke generators to imitate the assholes who gun their engines to gas the cars behind them?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (7rVsF)

Artificial diesel smell would be nice too. I just can't get enough of that diesel smell when I'm at a stoplight.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)

Spare a thought for the poor 'ettes, who must keep a spare pair of panties in the car in case they're at a stop light and someone revs a truck.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (t+qrx)


Is that a thing?

My experience is, more often than not, if you pull up to said diesel truck, it's being driven by a chick, or some toothless yokel, driving to spend his Social Security check at Walmart.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)

78 The other day I saw a "Cool Prius" -- Nobody Ever sticker on a Prius. I laughed out loud. Have to admire a Prius owner with a sense of humor.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 12:49 PM (NWiLs)

79 Spare a thought for the poor 'ettes, who must keep a spare pair of panties in the car in case they're at a stop light and someone revs a truck.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:43 PM (t+qrx)

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WTF?

Is this a joke?
Posted by: SMH

LOL !!!

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 12:50 PM (arJlL)

80 My experience is, more often than not, if you pull up to said diesel truck, it's being driven by a chick, or some toothless yokel, driving to spend his Social Security check at Walmart.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)

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In my neck of the woods, they're used in farming operations.

Posted by: SMH at February 16, 2020 12:50 PM (RU4sa)

81 Now, to find a permanent solution to the friggin tree-rats chewing the hoses under my hood.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 12:46 PM


Once-a-week spraying with a peppermint-oil solution in the corners of the engine compartments has been working for me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:50 PM (DMUuz)

82 WTF?

Is this a joke?
Posted by: SMH at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (RU4sa)


...yes? Guys pull up to stops in the summer and rev trucks when girls walk by. Girls are, near as I can tell, not particularly impressed.

Maybe it's a college town thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:50 PM (t+qrx)

83 I have a Prius and I love it. Don't care (or evangelize) about protecting the environment or anything....I just drive in the city a lot, between work and taking kids to and from activities, and the mileage is great. Plus, it's small and has a great turn radius, which helps.

If you fold the rear seats down, the storage capacity is also pretty handy. I've hauled several deer from the field in my Prius (wrapped in a tarp to keep blood off the upholstery).

Posted by: Grimaldi at February 16, 2020 12:51 PM (r6oYH)

84 WTF?
Is this a joke?
Posted by: SMH at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM


Calm your mammiform protuberances.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:51 PM (DMUuz)

85 it surprised me to see the battery pack was only 10% degraded after 300,000 miles. (in certain cases, other cases had other problems, more degradation). Still seems pricey, but supposedly maintenance is also much cheaper than exploding fuel in an engine.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 12:51 PM (Cus5s)

86 Also, let's pretend all of the huge technical hurdles were jumped, WITHOUT moving to nuclear, as demanded...

So called renewables are incapable of meeting demand for the foreseeable future, and the massive increase in coal-seam methane emissions will offset reduction of carbon emissions by several times.

If greenhouse gas reduction is your goal, this is fucking retarded.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 12:52 PM (pftYY)

87 Just drive down to the hydrogen station and top off.



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 12:25 PM


Good luck with that, buddy.

Posted by: The Hindenburg at February 16, 2020 12:52 PM (OMsf+)

88 I like my Tacoma. Simple two wheel drive and 110k. Just getting broke in.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 16, 2020 12:46 PM (axyOa)


Pretty sure I'm going to buy used, and it has to have 4wd, otherwise I wouldn't need it. My car does fine on most roads, but I'd like the option of better traction on the rare occasions when I'll need it. And... the main reason I need one, is so I can leave the pavement on weekends.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

89 Will there be charging stations at wilderness area trailheads?

Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2020 12:53 PM (O9VW1)

90 I have always wanted a pickup because I'm shallow and pickups look cool. But I don't get how they're practical unless you literally move salt for a living.

I need 4WD. I like to go places where the roads aren't and maybe sand is.

But how do you keep your fishing rods and camping gear secure in a pickup? An SUV does all of the 4WD goodness and lets you lock your shit up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 12:54 PM (gd9RK)

91 I'm not going big. I don't need big. I'm looking at Frontiers and Tacomas.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:45 PM


Tacomas ('Tacos') have had some frame corrosion issues, but there's not nearly the b*tching about them that there is around Nissans in the forums.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:54 PM (DMUuz)

92 42
Are these electric pickups going to have smoke generators to imitate the assholes who gun their engines to gas the cars behind them?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 16, 2020 12:36 PM (7rVsF)

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Nah, just RGB truck nuts.

Posted by: Groundhog at February 16, 2020 12:55 PM (VYwSh)

93 Only truck I ever owned was a beater light pickup I had over 20+ years ago. Leaked just about everything, held together with proverbial chewing gum and baling wire, and would've failed inspection in any state with an inspection requirement. It's nigh unto miraculous I never got into an accident or got stranded.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 12:55 PM (NWiLs)

94 Once-a-week spraying with a peppermint-oil solution in the corners of the engine compartments has been working for me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere


Thanks. Wife suggested moth balls, but I'm afraid that'll make the passenger compartment smell like an old person's attic, lol. I think I could deal with the peppermint oil smell.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 12:55 PM (N4r5a)

95 Volkswagen just announced that there will be no pickup in its future, but it has already broken ground on an all-new plant at its Tennessee manufacturing operation. The new plant will be exclusively dedicated to assembling electric vehicles, which VW has determined will be a high-volume product in the USA within a few years. VW has also announced that the current internal combustion engine on the Passat will be the last internal combustion engine it develops. Meanwhile, Volvo has also announced that it will not develop any further internal combustion engines, as it is going all-electric. The European auto companies are either going to be involuntarily exiting the American market if they remain committed to this all-electric nonsense, or they'll need to betray the clerics of The Sustainable Organic Church Of The Carbon Apocalypse - the state religion of Europe.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at February 16, 2020 12:55 PM (d9Cw3)

96 My wife's Kia hybrid just went off warranty and the electric motor went boom. Will cost over $5000 to replace.

Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2020 12:56 PM (O9VW1)

97 My experience is, more often than not, if you pull up to said diesel truck, it's being driven by a chick, or some toothless yokel, driving to spend his Social Security check at Walmart.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)

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In my neck of the woods, they're used in farming operations.
Posted by: SMH at February 16, 2020 12:50 PM (RU4sa)


Understood. I ain't got nothin' against folks with work trucks.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:56 PM (hku12)

98 Hey, Eris, I missed your comment in the Book Thread about whether The Expanse series of books is recommended.

HIGHLY recommended, I would say. Some of the best Science Fiction I have read. I am impatiently awaiting publication of the 9th and final book in the series. When the date of that pub is revealed, I will go back and re-read the previous 8 before the last. The series is that good.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2020 12:56 PM (0o2qn)

99 Never not had a truck. First new car was a Ranger, then Nissan Hardbody, then Ram, then Frontier, then back to Ram. Loved them all. The 96 Ram is still on the road. Saw it at Walgreens. Kid driving it said it was approaching 250k.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 12:57 PM (87EdW)

100 53 Good day MH!

Sent you an email a couple of days ago re Colorado Morondevous
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM (/UQ/R)

I saw that. I'll get to it.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 12:58 PM (aA3+G)

101 Only truck I ever owned was a beater light pickup I had over 20+ years ago. Leaked just about everything, held together with proverbial chewing gum and baling wire, and would've failed inspection in any state with an inspection requirement. It's nigh unto miraculous I never got into an accident or got stranded.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 12:55 PM (NWiLs)

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LOL. I grew up in a county with no emissions test. I just tied what was left of my dad's Chevy's exhaust system to the chassis with wire coathangers, to prevent it from dragging on the ground and sparking a wildfire.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 12:58 PM (pftYY)

102 I think Musk is on the money. It's all about CAFE.

1978/80s when CAFE started kicking in heavy suburban dads bought their wives Suburbans.
The Musk Truck is the new Suburban; it's big, it's beafy, it rides six passengers comfortably, you can put sports gear or even a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the bed.

It's the new city wagon.

And the price point $40K is competitive.

Me, I'm driving my 150 until it or I drop.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 12:59 PM (Hg4NE)

103 I have a Chevy 3/4 ton crew cab with Duramax diesel and Allison transmission. I always have chains and tow straps aboard for Fords and now for electric "trucks" as well.

Posted by: Muad'dib at February 16, 2020 12:59 PM (Um2IM)

104 41 My neighbor has a Tesla and when it gets really cold he loses 25-30% of battery power


Right when you need the heater...which draws on the battery, too.

In a gas engine, the heater is run on waste heat. Doesn't affect mileage at all.

And don't forget about a/c in the summer...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 01:01 PM (wc1vX)

105 91- there's actually a stealth recall for the Taco frame rust issue for certain years.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:02 PM (87EdW)

106 This morning on way to grocery store passed a house with Bernie 2020 sign on front yard, wish I had a tent to go camp next to it and see if they live what they wish.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:02 PM (ZCEU2)

107 Will there be charging stations at wilderness area trailheads?

Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2020 12:53 PM


All your cargo space will be consumed by the solar panels you had to bring along.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 01:02 PM (OMsf+)

108 Once-a-week spraying with a peppermint-oil solution in the corners of the engine compartments has been working for me.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:50 PM (DMUuz)


My attic is infested, think I will try it there.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 01:02 PM (Hg4NE)

109 Why is nobody purpose building technicals trucks for the coming unpleasantness? One day picking up groceries, next week leading a neighborhood armed convoy to pick up those last essentials.

Scenario: Beat up diesel trucks (one with amazing sound system and ripping guitar soloist)with armed citizens escort a tanker from burger place to burger place confiscating fryer oil for future conversion.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at February 16, 2020 01:03 PM (e1mEI)

110 I'm not going big. I don't need big. I'm looking at Frontiers and Tacomas.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 12:45 PM

Tacomas ('Tacos') have had some frame corrosion issues, but there's not nearly the b*tching about them that there is around Nissans in the forums.
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 12:54 PM (DMUuz)


I'm generally going by what the "pros" are saying.

As you know, the problem with forums (this place included) is you never know what axe the particular commenter has to grind.

It's like Amazon reviews. If you read enough of them, you can get a consensus, but you can't rely on the occasional one star review, because they might not like the color, or they are using it in a manner that is nothing like what you intend... or, occasionally, they've got a vested interest in promoting a competitor, so they just make stuff up.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:03 PM (hku12)

111 Bander, I'm with you on SUVs. I'm babying a 2003 Durango with 4WD and an iron V8 because it's just so handy. Hauls my boat and locks up like Leavenworth.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:03 PM (XxJt1)

112 Lots of diesel dailies around here- farmers and ranchers. Newer ones require some sort of urine-based fuel additive to meet emissions requirements.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:03 PM (87EdW)

113 Pertinent to electric vehicles from yesterday's This Week In Pictures at Powerline.

https://tinyurl.com/ve2bz3v

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 01:04 PM (aS1PU)

114 Thanks. Wife suggested moth balls, but I'm afraid that'll make the passenger compartment smell like an old person's attic, lol. I think I could deal with the peppermint oil smell.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 12:55 PM


It slightly smells like candy canes for a day or two outside; haven't ever detected the smell inside.

Here's what I'm using off of Amazon:

Mighty Mint - 16oz Mice Repellent Peppermint Oil - Non Toxic

There's another brand "Colton's" that I might try next (cheaper on a /oz. basis), but so far the Mighty Mint has worked.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 01:04 PM (DMUuz)

115 Thank you so much Mis Hum! You are the best!

And Donnie Two Scoops is in the house!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at February 16, 2020 01:05 PM (/UQ/R)

116 Bander, I'm with you on SUVs.

Posted by: creeper



That's because you're smart and of good moral character. You were surely raised right and are probably good looking.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (gd9RK)

117 I have always wanted a pickup because I'm shallow and pickups look cool. But I don't get how they're practical unless you literally move salt for a living.

I need 4WD. I like to go places where the roads aren't and maybe sand is.

But how do you keep your fishing rods and camping gear secure in a pickup? An SUV does all of the 4WD goodness and lets you lock your shit up.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 12:54 PM (gd9RK)


Lots of SUVs are just car frames with 4wd and bigger wheels.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (hku12)

118 I've owned a Prius and I've owned a 4Runner. Both serve their purposes but the bottom line is they are both outstandingly reliable. I have no need for either application right now, so I've got a Rav4. Which is also outstanding.

Tomorrow I'm taking a rental Camry on a long road trip, which I expect to be role perfect as well.

Yeah, I've been a confirmed Toyota loyalist after years of other brands (and quite a bit of GM junk).

Not wanting to start any fights or anything.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (7ZQe3)

119 When AOC was vomiting up the Green New Deal, she said something about getting rid of 99% of the Internal Combustion vehicles. The moment I heard that, I wished there was a real journalist present who would have asked.
"How do I qualify to be in the 1% who gets to keep their IC engine vehicles? I mean, is it a political decision? Money? Will there be a special government department that gets to make the call?
One of the things I would love to see a real journalist do is insist the left defines their terms. Obama said "Hope and Change" but never defined what he meant.
Bloomberg is claiming he will get "It" done without defining what "It" really is.
AOC said 1% got to keep their IC engines, make her define who the 1% is.
The left says the immigration system is 'broken' but never really gives details, only that the solution is open borders.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (1nz3P)

120 But how do you keep your fishing rods and camping gear secure in a pickup? An SUV does all of the 4WD goodness and lets you lock your shit up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 12:54 PM (gd9RK)


I have a gun rack in my window. I keep two rods there for any fishing emergency. I keep my lures in a flat compartmentalized container.

In my tool box in the back, tools are on the driver's side. On the passenger's side I have a tent, a tarp, a hammock, a pot, flatware, e.t.c and st least 3 days emergency rations. I also have a tough box 63 gallon secured in the bed.

With all this i still have room for the 4 and 8 foot leaders that i use daily and the propane bottle i always haul around.

Posted by: Ex-ex at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (RU4sa)

121 Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 01:04 PM (aS1PU)

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Ha, yea I'll pass. One drunk bastard drops the "pump," and it's curtains for everyone!

I kid, I'm sure they're safetied. But the thought makes me laugh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 01:07 PM (pftYY)

122 Lots of SUVs are just car frames with 4wd and bigger wheels.


No, those are bullshitty crossovers, no matter what they call themselves.

A real SUV is a truck with body on frame and leaf spring suspension.

Nothing with a unibody is a truck or an SUV.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:08 PM (gd9RK)

123 Tacoma.

Posted by: WTP at February 16, 2020 01:08 PM (WQfDg)

124 I keep two rods there for any fishing emergency. I keep my lures in a flat compartmentalized container.

...

With all this i still have room for the 4 and 8 foot leaders that i use daily and the propane bottle i always haul around.
Posted by: Ex-ex at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM


Where do you keep the flies you put on the leaders?

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 01:09 PM (DMUuz)

125 Bander, one out of four.


Are you going to the TXMoMe?

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:09 PM (XxJt1)

126 109 Trucks should come with a option turret ring for a Ma Deuce

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:10 PM (ZCEU2)

127 CA and NY have already been put on a path to electricity shortfalls. Now what happens when the CAFE rules force use of Pious's

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:10 PM (8Kudz)

128 There's a pickup war coming, and it's going to be electric.

Look for the electric pickups by the side of the road, where they've run out of juice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:10 PM (7p0Hn)

129 Waiting for the EV truck with backup power - exercise bike in bed with a fan belt tied to a charger.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2020 01:11 PM (X2ND2)

130 Used Hummer H2s have finally reached my budget, so I got one. Loving it so far. No interest in an electric version.

Posted by: drerbrererd at February 16, 2020 01:11 PM (mZC3Q)

131 An electric vehicle in a MN winter? Sure.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 01:11 PM (wc1vX)

132 127 CA and NY have already been put on a path to electricity shortfalls. Now what happens when the CAFE rules force use of Pious's
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:10 PM (8Kudz)


We'll just need more batteries, that's all. Batteries are the power source of the future, I've been assured.

I'd have posted this sooner, but my cell phone ran out of juice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:11 PM (7p0Hn)

133 The internal combustion engine stole my childhood.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at February 16, 2020 01:12 PM (EgshT)

134 There's a pickup war coming, and it's going to be electric.

Look for the electric pickups by the side of the road, where they've run out of juice.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:10 PM (7p0Hn)


I seem to recall that if one were to run a Prius battery all the way down, the car would brick.

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 01:12 PM (aS1PU)

135 Are you going to the TXMoMe?

If I still have this gig, yes. I'm on double secret probabtion. They like me but there's bureaucracy and things. So yes. Probably.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:12 PM (gd9RK)

136 I've owned a Prius and I've owned a 4Runner. Both serve their purposes but the bottom line is they are both outstandingly reliable. I have no need for either application right now, so I've got a Rav4. Which is also outstanding.

Tomorrow I'm taking a rental Camry on a long road trip, which I expect to be role perfect as well.

Yeah, I've been a confirmed Toyota loyalist after years of other brands (and quite a bit of GM junk).

Not wanting to start any fights or anything.
Posted by: Pete Seria at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (7ZQe3)


I'm on my fourth Honda. Different models, different needs.

I had a Ridgeline, which was perfect for my needs at the time, but right now I don't think it would be the right truck for what I want... an occasional off-roader that can go places my car can't.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:12 PM (hku12)

137 What time is PDJT"s lap around the track?

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 16, 2020 01:13 PM (7ZQe3)

138 @132 The irony! It Berns!

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:13 PM (8Kudz)

139 How many of these new electric Trucks will have a generator in the back to power the batteries?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 16, 2020 01:13 PM (dKiJG)

140
An electric vehicle in a MN winter? Sure.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles
Plus those in the hinterlands. They really do hate us.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:14 PM (2ygtH)

141 Lots of SUVs are just car frames with 4wd and bigger wheels.

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No, those are bullshitty crossovers, no matter what they call themselves.

A real SUV is a truck with body on frame and leaf spring suspension.

Nothing with a unibody is a truck or an SUV.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:08 PM (gd9RK)


And so, the "true" SUVs these days are what?

Jeeps?

Anything else? Cuz I ain't buying no damned Jeep.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:14 PM (hku12)

142 OT. When the hell do you sleep MisHum?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:14 PM (2ygtH)

143 Electric trucks could be the EVs Waterloo. Most people who own and use trucks seem to put up over 100k before they shop for something new. I think the average car buyer puts 5 years on a car and then goes shopping. Certainly someone who shops EVs wants the latest and greatest. Now, how many charge cycles can an EV battery take in 2020 before it starts it show wear? In a Tesla, the cost of replacement for a battery pack is 10-20 percent of the cost of the vehicle.

Also for Tesla, their hand-finished body work is a bitch to repair. Can you imagine the cost if the repair is being done on an exoskeleton on the Tesla truck instead of just a side or quarter panel? Now that the Model 3 is attracting a lot of new customers we're going to start to see how much body work Tesla shops can really handle.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at February 16, 2020 01:14 PM (sN9mD)

144 Where do you keep the flies you put on the leaders?

;-)
Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 01:09 PM (DMUuz)


Flies? I can't speak to that. I don't know anybody in south Georgia or around here that fly fishes.

Posted by: Ex-ex at February 16, 2020 01:16 PM (RU4sa)

145 Waiting for the EV truck with backup power - exercise bike in bed with a fan belt tied to a charger.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2020 01:11 PM (X2ND2)


I want the Fred Flintstone option.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:16 PM (hku12)

146 Fox has Daytona at 2:30 Eastern

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:16 PM (8Kudz)

147 131 An electric vehicle in a MN winter? Sure.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 01:11 PM (wc1vX)


I really don't get it. Battery life depends on the loads applied. Turning on the heater will drain the bejesus out of a battery, which of course supplies less power at low temperatures. So how far can you get on a battery charge depends critically on the temperature.

But no problem in a balmy MN winter, right? You miscalculate, you can just sit by the side of the road and catch up on your reading, right?

Another factor: battery performance inevitably degrades over time. Maybe you could've gotten, say, 250 miles out of a charge when the battery was brand new, but now - unbeknownst to you - you can only get 200 miles on a charge, and it's really cold, so maybe you can only get 170 miles, what with the heater and lights on, the low temperature, and degradation of the battery's performance.

But that's not a problem in a MN winter, right?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:17 PM (7p0Hn)

148 by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020

I do here & there

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 16, 2020 01:17 PM (aA3+G)

149 Yabba dabba vroom?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2020 01:17 PM (X2ND2)

150 Maybe a mast and sails could be carried for emergency on a electric truck.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:17 PM (ZCEU2)

151 That's good news, Bander. I'll see you at Ben's.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:17 PM (XxJt1)

152 And so, the "true" SUVs these days are what?


My XTerra is a truck. They don't make them anymore, though, so I hope it never dies. Only 240K on it so far, so no rush.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:17 PM (gd9RK)

153 I want the Fred Flintstone option.

It's our only hope.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at February 16, 2020 01:18 PM (EgshT)

154 AOC said 1% got to keep their IC engines, make her define who the 1% is.

Posted by: JB1000 at February 16, 2020 01:06 PM (1nz3P)

Not only that, but if we still have a 1% need for these vehicles (say, just for kicks, EMT, Firetrucks, Electric Lineworker vehicles, and the like), how does anyone produce them profitably?

Posted by: April at February 16, 2020 01:19 PM (OX9vb)

155 Air Force One did a flyby of Daytona International Speedway!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/whzcuzf

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:20 PM (ghFVE)

156 Skip! The new wax ring is in. No more trekking through the house to the spare bathroom at 0300.

Though I hadn't noticed it, the old ring gave evidence of wobble. New one is solid as a rock.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:20 PM (XxJt1)

157 133 The internal combustion engine stole my childhood.
Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at February 16, 2020 01:12 PM (EgshT)


Not to mention your training bra.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:20 PM (7p0Hn)

158 We are looking at 6500 pounds Camper, And right now I'm trying to go between either a ram truck or Ford F150 and we want to go diesel anybody here have any thoughts, we plan on going long distances, out west and to Florida.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 16, 2020 01:21 PM (dKiJG)

159 Wobble might have been the clue

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:21 PM (ZCEU2)

160 And so, the "true" SUVs these days are what?



Jeeps?



Anything else? Cuz I ain't buying no damned Jeep.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:14 PM


Toyota 4Runner.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 01:21 PM (OMsf+)

161 I was watching that there "Mountain Man" show before I cut the cable some years back and Festus or whatever his name was converted his pick up into a wood burning vehicle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (Z+IKu)

162
Not only that, but if we still have a 1% need for these vehicles (say, just for kicks, EMT, Firetrucks, Electric Lineworker vehicles, and the like), how does anyone produce them profitably?



Or produce the fuel supply for a 1% market?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (wc1vX)

163 Melania in a sleeveless dress...for all those interested.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (cF8AT)

164 Creeper - I would suspect the bolts were not tight

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (ZCEU2)

165 Plus those in the hinterlands. They really do hate us.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:14 PM (2ygtH)


What about people in the cities who run out of juice in the ghetto on a hot summer night?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (7p0Hn)

166 Range is important. I'll consider an electric something that will let me cross Oklahoma, stop in Shamrock TX, and recharge in the time it takes for a meal. And AC. And heat.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (C1Lsn)

167 So we're driving bigger vehicles than we need/want, because regs keep automakers from selling us what we want.
Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 16, 2020 12:32 PM (Ph5jo)

Dude, personally I have always wanted to drive big trucks. When I was 10 years old I wanted either a blue Dodge Ram short bed with KC lights OR a 65 mustang fastback. I don't care about the politics I never wanted a sedan. It's either a truck or a muscle car for me.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (a4qVe)

168 Again, it takes watts to do work. Sure, getting around ones fair city is just fine. But, the rest of the planet has to grow your food, move your materials, keep you warm, pump your water, light your life and batteries, wind, solar will not cut it. You'll die. Ummmm, oops, sorry. Please leftists, continue on your merry way, it'll all work out fine.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (2ygtH)

169 The concept of profitability is foreign to Communism.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (X2ND2)

170 m, thanks for that link to the flyover. Too awesome for words.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (XxJt1)

171 139 How many of these new electric Trucks will have a generator in the back to power the batteries?
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 16, 2020 01:13 PM (dKiJG)


No generator. Just solar panels. Batteries run down, you just cool your heels for eight hours. Assuming the sun is out. Otherwise, just get comfy because you're going to be there for a while.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:24 PM (7p0Hn)

172 158- my Ram is gas- we have a 23' ultralight TV that weighs 4300. Except for only getting about 12 mph, it does the trick easily, power-wise.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:24 PM (87EdW)

173 155
Air Force One did a flyby of Daytona International Speedway!



https://preview.tinyurl.com/whzcuzf

Posted by: m at February 16,

Heh, tell me our magnificent President had it do a barrel roll!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:25 PM (2ygtH)

174 166 Range is important. I'll consider an electric something that will let me cross Oklahoma, stop in Shamrock TX, and recharge in the time it takes for a meal. And AC. And heat.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (C1Lsn)


Recharging time is a critical flaw. If it takes much longer than gassing up - which it does - electric vehicles will be a niche market only.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (7p0Hn)

175 As someone who actually uses a pickup truck in daily work, hauling lumber, trash, dirt, building materials of all sorts, furniture, etc, etc, I'd be happy if the manufacturers would start making trucks with a real honest-to-goodness 8-foot box again. Unless you special order one, you're pretty much consigned to the used market, and they're beginning to get old and rusty.

The current crop of "trucks" are anything but. Luxurious, high-riding cars with a box the size of a steamer trunk.

Posted by: Bret at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (Wnxq0)

176 Or produce the fuel supply for a 1% market?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (wc1vX)

But she has an Econ degree, right? LOL

Posted by: April at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (OX9vb)

177 No thank you. I will keep my 7.3 diesel F250.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (pw+jk)

178 It's weird, Skip. I don't recall the commode wobbling before but it must have been because the first thing I noticed about the new installation was how solid it is.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (XxJt1)

179 138 @132 The irony! It Berns!
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:13 PM


Tell us about it.

Posted by: Lithium Batteries for Pete Buttigeg! at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (DMUuz)

180 I have a coworker that bought a Tesla car and he has definitely drunk the koolaid. I'm a truck guy and am unimportant with the Tesla truck despite his glowing recommendations.

I too needed to tow a camper (my parents gave me their old 2003 Dutchman) and went halfway. I sold my 2014 Nissan Frontier (miss it - trouble free very underrated truck) and bought a 2014 Dodge Ecodiesel. Great mileage, but I hate going from a Nissan piece of perfect Engineering to an American made POS that I have to slap parts on every 4 to 6 months. Finally bought a high end OBD scanner. It's a must for American made vehicles
When a check light comes on you can see the code and clear it if its BS. My welcome to the 21st century of owning a truck.

Posted by: The Guy at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (4cEdi)

181 Seriously, what if you run out of electricity in the desert? With a real car you walk 12 miles to town, you're miserable, but you buy a gallon of gas and maybe someone gives you a ride back out there. Gas in the tank, vrooom!

You run out of juice, you walk 12 desert miles to town, and now what? A can of electricity?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (gd9RK)

182 I swear I am going to make a bumper sticker that says:

"Coal/Oil-Fired Electric"

And start dropping by Tesla charging stations with them.

Seriously, you walkers, DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED!?!?!

Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (0o2qn)

183 Little bit longer video of AF1 arriving at Daytona...

https://tinyurl.com/rxnaxku

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (cF8AT)

184 Ford Explorer used to be real SUV but I think they unibodied them around 2013 or so.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (71bXH)

185 Air Force One did a flyby of Daytona International Speedway!


https://preview.tinyurl.com/whzcuzf



Posted by: m at February 16,
----
Heh, tell me our magnificent President had it do a barrel roll!


Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:25 PM


Has Trump taken the lap in The Beast yet?

https://tinyurl.com/un6986s

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 01:27 PM (OMsf+)

186 Ford has partnered with another all-electric pickup-truck manufacturer. Your concerns about the paucity of charging stations, cold-weather battery life, RANGE on ONE charge (particularly if plowing snow or towing more than 1K lbs.) are well-placed.
But the single most significant question is that of the charging-station infrastructure. Until that's resolved, the only use for EV's will be for "in-town" shopping, theater, grand-kids, etc. IOW, they will be very nice golf-carts......although the Chevy Bolt sedan looks awful and has all the comfort of a Willys GP.

Posted by: dad29 at February 16, 2020 01:27 PM (5QjOf)

187 Unimportant = Unimpressed.

Posted by: The Guy at February 16, 2020 01:27 PM (4cEdi)

188
161 I was watching that there "Mountain Man" show before I cut the cable some years back and Festus or whatever his name was converted his pick up into a wood burning vehicle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 01:22 PM (Z+IKu)

We were watching some old Disney Movie and the Truck was coal powered and the movie was ONE IF OUR DINOSAURS IS MISSING. Very problematic movie since the Chicoms are the bad guys

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 16, 2020 01:27 PM (dKiJG)

189 183 Little bit longer video of AF1 arriving at Daytona...

https://tinyurl.com/rxnaxku
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (cF8AT)

Wow!!!!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM (ghFVE)

190 A bonus question: where is all this electricity going to come from?

(Anybody who says "batteries" gets smacked upside the head.)

We already have a problem with brownouts and such, and at least here in the People's Republic, they're shutting down power plants, while encouraging greater use of electricity. It's those clever liberals at it again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM (7p0Hn)

191 It's either a truck or a muscle car for me.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:23 PM (a4qVe)

===
The healing power of "and."
Use it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM (pw+jk)

192 You run out of juice, you walk 12 desert miles to town, and now what? A can of electricity?

Posted by: Bandersnatch


Gonna be a lot of EVs towed by ICEs!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM (2ygtH)

193 I don't know if you can roll a 747 but Robert Vesco's pilot rolled his 707 once.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM (XxJt1)

194 I was watching that there "Mountain Man" show before I cut the cable some years back and Festus or whatever his name was converted his pick up into a wood burning vehicle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy a

Eustace, Festus is Gunsmoke.

Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2020 01:29 PM (MTxDQ)

195 167 Cheriebebe, same here. Trucks or SUVs (no interest in muscle cars).

Maybe because Dad always drove a truck? All the sexiest boys drove trucks? Who cares why?

The other reason is, I commute to town from the country, and I like to have a chance against the deer.

Posted by: April at February 16, 2020 01:29 PM (OX9vb)

196 If they can come up with a really quick charging system, maybe dealerships will have them like they used to have gas pumps.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 16, 2020 01:29 PM (C1Lsn)

197 I think a possible solution to the refueling issue is standardized, removable cells. Then it's just a swap- but there are a host of related issues with that, too.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:30 PM (87EdW)

198 Eustace, Festus is Gunsmoke.
Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2020 01:29 PM (MTxDQ)

Yeah that's him.....Eustace.

He seemed like a real nice guy.

Thanks Infidel!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 01:30 PM (Z+IKu)

199 185 Has Trump taken the lap in The Beast yet?

https://tinyurl.com/un6986s
Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 01:27 PM (OMsf+)

Nope. Just landed at the airport a little while ago.
I'm trying to find a good online site for watching this.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:30 PM (ghFVE)

200 ErinMPerrine

Wow. Listen to that crowd!

https://tinyurl.com/wmfw225

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:30 PM (cF8AT)

201 I have a theory that the success of free market economies is getting people who are smart (120 ish IQs) in positions to make decisions with incentives for success. Nice to have geniuses, but you can copy their work product. With smart people freely but competitively in charge, everything tens to work well

If you're smart, life sucks in a Commie society, you go through life frustrated or worse. Unless you join the party and make your goal in life the oppression of others. If you're not so smart you're a dumb cow and go along with the program

It sucks to be in a country where the average IQ is 80 -- and there are many -- because nothing will ever get done right

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:31 PM (8Kudz)

202 What time is PDJT"s lap around the track?

If I had DJT money, I'd secretly have a replica built with a fiberglass body, a 700 HP engine, and race tires tucked into the wheel wells and hidden with fake wheel covers. Then have a real driver bring it out on the track doing 60 MPH for a lap and then suddenly wick it up to 160 for four or five laps. It'd probably cost a $1M for a ten minute prank but you know the car would go directly to the NASCAR HoF with Trump's name and picture. Would be worth every cent for the PR.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 01:31 PM (qc+VF)

203 I think Power Line has a photo of a charging station with a bunch of chargers. And the whole lot was flooded. That could get sticky

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 16, 2020 01:31 PM (X2ND2)

204
What about people in the cities who run out of juice in the ghetto on a hot summer night?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


How does one make an electric Molotov cocktail?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:31 PM (aKsyK)

205 A bonus question: where is all this electricity going to come from?

(Anybody who says "batteries" gets smacked upside the head.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM


Duh! Petting cats on clear winter days. It's static science!

Posted by: Brattleboro Wymyn's & Feline Health Coöperative at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (DMUuz)

206 The thing about electric cars is when the battery is out of charge, you still have the weight of the battery.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (pw+jk)

207 I guess this livestream will work, in about an hour? But there's (obviously!) some good pre-race stuff to watch.

https://www.foxsports.com/watch/1231750

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (ghFVE)

208 Seriously, you walkers, DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED!?!?!
Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (0o2qn)


Seriously? I think a lot of people do not, especially on the distaff side. They really think electricity comes from outlets, and that's as far as they go.

How many humanities majors have any conception of power generation and distribution? My guess? Precious few. I bet most of them never think about it.

I (very briefly) dated a gal who wondered aloud how incandescent light bulbs and air conditioners worked. She was probably trying to inflate my male ego by playing dumb, but all she succeeded in doing was making me think of how dumb our kids might be.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (7p0Hn)

209 We already have a problem with brownouts and such,
and at least here in the People's Republic, they're shutting down power
plants, while encouraging greater use of electricity. It's those clever
liberals at it again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

We were just told because Washington has so many dams, we'll be just fine. Well, good luck supplying 100% of power with 20% capacity. PLUS! Our idiots want to REMOVE dams. THAT level of stupid can't be natural, it must be learned!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (2ygtH)

210 It sucks to be in a country where the average IQ is 80 -- and there are many -- because nothing will ever get done right





Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:31 PM (8Kudz)

===
And that is going down every year due to illegals and refugees.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:33 PM (pw+jk)

211 Nobody buys an electric truck because they want a work vehicle or something to haul things in. They buy it because they want a truck-shaped car.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:33 PM (KZzsI)

212 What about people in the cities who run out of juice in the ghetto on a hot summer night?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

How does one make an electric Molotov cocktail?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:31 PM (aKsyK)


I'm sure the locals will be happy to show one.

Actually, under those circumstances, you'd definitely need the Ma Deuce option on your vehicle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:33 PM (7p0Hn)

213 Seriously, what if you run out of electricity in the desert? With a real car you walk 12 miles to town, you're miserable, but you buy a gallon of gas and maybe someone gives you a ride back out there. Gas in the tank, vrooom!

You run out of juice, you walk 12 desert miles to town, and now what? A can of electricity?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (gd9RK)


Serious question, and of course feel free to tell me I'm an idiot if this is an idiotic question, but....

Could drones potentially be the answer? Sending a drone with enough electrical juice to charge a stranded vehicle?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:33 PM (hku12)

214 The Democrats in Washington State (and the governor of Oregon) are calling for several hydroelectric power plants along the Snake River to be shut down.

Because fewer power plants is good, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:34 PM (KZzsI)

215 193 I don't know if you can roll a 747 but Robert Vesco's pilot rolled his 707 once.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:28 PM (XxJt1)


There's a video of the original exhibition of the 707, (Seattle?) Big deal fly over with folks all along the river and the pilot does a barrel roll.

Beautiful.

Conference with the boss, not so much.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 01:34 PM (Hg4NE)

216 Our idiots want to REMOVE dams. THAT level of stupid can't be natural, it must be learned!


That's because dams are evil.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, on behalf of the salmon at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (gd9RK)

217 April, I grew up in Chicago but imma country girl at heart. I want a big truck or a super fast muscle car to burn up the back roads. I've lived in rural America. I *fly low* on a country road

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (a4qVe)

218 We were just told because Washington has so many dams, we'll be just fine. Well, good luck supplying 100% of power with 20% capacity. PLUS! Our idiots want to REMOVE dams. THAT level of stupid can't be natural, it must be learned!
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (2ygtH)


IIRC, California is already removing dams, so that the guppies and other fish can romp and play.

Once again, California leads the way! Right behind Venezuela.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (7p0Hn)

219 Electric cars are "positional goods." They are bought not for utility primarily, but for the message it sends to others.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (87EdW)

220 Has anyone converted a Prius to propane/electric

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (B7KlG)

221 We were just told because Washington has so many
dams, we'll be just fine. Well, good luck supplying 100% of power with
20% capacity. PLUS! Our idiots want to REMOVE dams. THAT level of stupid
can't be natural, it must be learned!


Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (2ygtH)

===
I tried to explain to a very, very smart leftist that hydro power was the only effective solar power. He called me stupid and went off in a huff.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (pw+jk)

222 Erin Perrine, again:

The Beast is on the track!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vgy7gdq

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:36 PM (ghFVE)

223

181 Seriously, what if you run out of electricity in the desert?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (gd9RK)

You send a flatbed out to get it or you bury it there. Those are the only two options.

Posted by: drerbrererd at February 16, 2020 01:36 PM (mZC3Q)

224 Right now, a good name for an electric truck would be the Mk 1 GBGC (great big golf cart).

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 16, 2020 01:36 PM (C1Lsn)

225 Could drones potentially be the answer? Sending a drone with enough electrical juice to charge a stranded vehicle?

Have to be a pretty hefty drone to carry that much extra electricity. But it could work (would also work for gasoline)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

226 Isn't Nascar on FS1?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (cF8AT)

227 My neighbor drove from Columbus to Orlando in their Tesla and it only cost him 10.00 dollars because most of the charging stations were free and it took him 30 minutes per charge and the Car Directed him to the Charging stations and then let him know he could stop charging and directed him to the next one

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (dKiJG)

228 Iowahawk's got nothing on Daytona! I'm stunned.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (ghFVE)

229 AOC has a BU degree in International Economics, which is multiple courses in how oppressor countries fuck over the third world. Like how the USA fucked over Venezuela. She was never going to be a FX trader

But tits. Won her the audition

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (8Kudz)

230 Electric cars are "positional goods." They are bought not for utility primarily, but for the message it sends to others.
Posted by: Farmer Bob

So my .50 is a positional good, I thought position refered to a place, as in: OP, alternate fighting position, etc.

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (B7KlG)

231 Braenyard, was that barrel roll not on the menu?

Vesco's pilot did it when Vesco sold the airplane...a last flight "Good-bye".

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (XxJt1)

232 Iowahawk's got nothing on Daytona! I'm stunned.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM


I'm not.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (OMsf+)

233 228 Iowahawk's got nothing on Daytona! I'm stunned.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (ghFVE)

Isn't he a NT-er?

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (cF8AT)

234 Seriously, you [bwalkers, DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW ELECTRICITY IS GENERATED!?!?!
Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM


Begun the Nightcrawler/Daywalker Wars have.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (DMUuz)

235 I think a recharging drone would probably run into the same issues that make battery powered aircraft super difficult. Energy density being the main issue. Can never get enough power for weight to achieve lift for a sustained period. And, as a charging platform, none of that stored energy would be available for flight.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (87EdW)

236 I doubt this video is real but it claims to be a Virgin Atlantic 747 doing an aileron roll.

https://youtu.be/yi0_u_WaPWk

Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (0o2qn)

237 Here in the belly of the non NASCAR world, it's on FOX

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (8Kudz)

238 Could drones potentially be the answer? Sending a drone with enough electrical juice to charge a stranded vehicle?



Have to be a pretty hefty drone to carry that much extra electricity. But it could work (would also work for gasoline)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

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Work much better and have an extended range for gasoline as the return trip you would have a much lighter load.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:39 PM (pw+jk)

239 213 Seriously, what if you run out of electricity in the desert? ...


Camping somewhere there's a sign saying - you are 120 miles from the closest medical facility and 80 miles from the closest tow truck. We are not responsible for you. Be careful.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 01:39 PM (Hg4NE)

240 237 Here in the belly of the non NASCAR world, it's on FOX

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (8Kudz)

Ah, you're right. Thanks!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:39 PM (cF8AT)

241 just got home and saw that "The End" is playing on MGM (a cable channel) It's always surprised me that this movie isn't more well known or shown often, since I think this is probably the funniest movie that Burt Reynolds and Dom Deluise ever did together. If you've never seen it, you should!

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 01:39 PM (V2Yro)

242 I (very briefly) dated a gal who wondered aloud how incandescent light bulbs and air conditioners worked. She was probably trying to inflate my male ego by playing dumb, but all she succeeded in doing was making me think of how dumb our kids might be.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:32 PM (7p0Hn)


Omagosh no, man. I think you seriously missed out there.

She's not that dumb, but she wanted to see if you passed the man test.

What is the man test?

Any time she asks you something, even if it's something like how to catch and kill a mouse, or move a heavy object, or fix something. How you react... if there's ANY hesitation on your part, you failed the man test.

I have on occasion, failed said test. Not because I couldn't so something, but because I was on the wrong side of the equation. My thought was, "you ain't puttin' out, honey, I ain't doin' that for you. I'm not your chump."

Her thought, of course, was "I ain't puttin' out until you prove your manliness."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (hku12)

243 motor-in-hub electric drive.

Why increase the un-sprung weight and expose the motor/s to more shock and road salt?

Diesel-electric

They're making 9 and 10 speed transmissions nowadays. Generator/motor transmission e.g. locomotives make sense for trains where your pulling thru long stretches of time that might not be at ideal rev's for your prime mover.

Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (FhXTo)

244 Electric cars are "positional goods." They are bought not for utility primarily, but for the message it sends to others.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM


In Austin, one amplifies the positional through the application of one or more Beto stickers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (DMUuz)

245 219 Electric cars are "positional goods." They are bought not for utility primarily, but for the message it sends to others.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:35 PM (87EdW)


They could just put signs on their cars that read "I'm an a-hole with more money than sense."

Same message, pretty much.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (7p0Hn)

246 219. That's what I'm thinking. Just can't wait to see which 'woke' builder mandates an all EV truck fleet to gain Greta cred with the Wine Moms.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (71bXH)

247 I kinda think Melania should wear a pair of Daisy Dukes, a gingham off the shoulder top and her ever present Christian Louboutins for the flag drop.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:41 PM (a4qVe)

248 There are E85 and propane Prius conversions out there

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 01:41 PM (B7KlG)

249 "They are a nice looking vehicle".
What the fuck is this shit? Are we British all of a sudden or just elite cocksuckers? And don't fucking start with the Merriam-Webster alternate form bullshit either goddammit.
"They are nice looking vehicles" or "It is a nice looking vehicle". Agreement motherfuckers. Agreement.

Posted by: E. B. White at February 16, 2020 01:41 PM (AsjQP)

250 Trump the showman!
AF 1 flyover at Daytona.
The donkeys are in AAA league and Trump is in the show.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (pw+jk)

251 I want to be chauffeured around in The Beast while you lot pay for it.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)

252 Sharkman, that's fake. Beyond the folly of rolling a 747, no one in her right mind would do it at two hundred feet.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (XxJt1)

253 They could just put signs on their cars that read "I'm an a-hole with more money than sense."

Same message, pretty much.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM


I still have some stickers and lawn signs ...

Posted by: Beto at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (DMUuz)

254 Ooooo. Lookie here! Shiny new thing.
Revolution, is it? Well it ain't gonna revolve too much if the power goes out now is it Edison?
And what about the nasty disposal trouble and the increase in power grid consumption? No plan for either?

Posted by: Dan Patterson at February 16, 2020 01:43 PM (AsjQP)

255 Whats the temperature in Daytona?

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:43 PM (ZCEU2)

256 I would like to see more experimentation done on diesel/electric though, its worked brilliantly for trains for like 80 years now. Seems like that would work great for a semi.

Or a mini nuke but nobody will ever let that happen.

Electric cars are "positional goods." They are bought not for utility primarily, but for the message it sends to others.

If I lived in town and had a job in town, and enough money for like 3 cars, I would get a little electric car for commuting to work and back. That's pretty much the only circumstance I can imagine them being useful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

257 Bad as ObamaCare was, his Energy bill was worse. It passed the House, but died in the Senate

At the time of the House vote,there was not a single copy of the final bill in Congress. Minions were still sticking in crazy things

Had it passed we would have been thrown into a deep D depression while we retrofitted for a Green New World

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:44 PM (8Kudz)

258 Patrick, how much longer did it take him to get there?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:44 PM (a4qVe)

259 I hope to be surprised. I can't see the Beast with tinted windows being toddled around the track while we're told PDT is inside as being exciting.

I want him at the wheel of a ceremonial Shelby or at the very least in an open roofed JFK-mobile. I'm pretty sure the SS has kept Mannlicher-Carcanos out of the stadium.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, on behalf of the salmon at February 16, 2020 01:44 PM (gd9RK)

260 Holy crap Bloomberg ads on fox are frequent and heinous.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:45 PM (a4qVe)

261 I think a recharging drone would probably run into the same issues that make battery powered aircraft super difficult. Energy density being the main issue. Can never get enough power for weight to achieve lift for a sustained period. And, as a charging platform, none of that stored energy would be available for flight.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:38 PM (87EdW)


Ok, so it was a dumb question, and thanks for answering it without saying so.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:45 PM (hku12)

262 250 Trump the showman!
AF 1 flyover at Daytona.
The donkeys are in AAA league and Trump is in the show.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (pw+jk)

And then he's going to take a "Victory Lap"! And speak from "Victory Lane" at Daytona!

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:46 PM (ghFVE)

263 You put out once and then you say, "There's more where that came from but first you will hang these shelves."

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:46 PM (XxJt1)

264 Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (hku12)

Ever the pedogogue, I did explain how they worked, but she's convinced me she really didn't know, and I couldn't shake the image of sitting around a dinner table with her and a couple of kids who were dullards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:46 PM (7p0Hn)

265 And then he's going to take a "Victory Lap"! And speak from "Victory Lane" at Daytona!
Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:46 PM (ghFVE)


I'm ripped on Victory Gin!

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 01:46 PM (t+qrx)

266
Holy crap Bloomberg ads on fox are frequent and heinous.

Posted by: Cheriebebe
I just laugh when they come on. Keep spending that money short round, keep sharing that wealth!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:47 PM (2ygtH)

267 Now I am on a mission to find a real video of a 747 rolling.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 16, 2020 01:48 PM (0o2qn)

268 Ok, so it was a dumb question, and thanks for answering it without saying so.

No, I think it could be done but its going to have to be a huge drone like one of those Air Force ones that circle the globe. Big enough that it can carry the weight of all those extra batteries its not tapping into and make the run. Which would cost a crapload to build and maintain. Probably not worth the expense to charge your stuck Chevy Leaf.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:48 PM (KZzsI)

269 Speaking of Prius.

I don't own one.

But there is a parking spot at my garden club bank that is "reserved for low-emitting vehicles."
I go out of my way to park there every time I go.

Sue me.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 01:49 PM (TdMsT)

270 I just laugh when they come on. Keep spending that money short round, keep sharing that wealth!
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:47 PM (2ygtH)

Well there is that. He is such an exhausting insufferable prick.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:49 PM (a4qVe)

271 This looks like it'll be a livestream starting in 10 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM (ghFVE)

272 I want to be chauffeured around in The Beast while you lot pay for it.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)
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Hey everybody, JackStraw is running for president! You heard it here first.

You need a campaign manager. I can't do it because I plan to be in charge of bimbo eruptions and I understand that will be a full-time job.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM (/669Q)

273 Here's another thing about electric vehicles: wouldn't they kind of dangerous to work on?

I mean, if you a short in the electrical system of a gas-powered car, no problem, you can just track it down.

But if you a short in an EV, you could get fried if the short makes the chassis hot. I don't know the voltage and current of an EV battery, but it HAS to be substantial to power the motor moving the vehicle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM (7p0Hn)

274 I haven't the foggiest what NASCAR is but I approve this message!

Posted by: Little Mikey Bloomberg at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM (EgshT)

275 Well there is that. He is such an exhausting insufferable prick.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:49 PM (a4qVe)


He sure is.

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM (TdMsT)

276 Got a new car a couple of weeks ago and went looking for WeatherTechs for the front. Happened on some knock-offs that were half the price and had excellent reviews. Took a chance, and I'm happy to say that they are terrific. Fit perfectly too, just as WTs.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 01:51 PM (sGotD)

277 Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (hku12)

Ever the pedogogue, I did explain how they worked, but she's convinced me she really didn't know, and I couldn't shake the image of sitting around a dinner table with her and a couple of kids who were dullards.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 01:46 PM (7p0Hn)


Well, that's unfortunate for her.

That's my thing though, I think it's perfectly fine if someone doesn't understand something, and says so, but then if you go to the trouble to explain it (presuming you aren't using overly technical language), then at least have the courtesy to sit through a short educational description.

If you can't be bothered to at least feign interest (and demonstrate some grasp of what is being explained), then yeah, you might not be good for much.

At least not for the long haul.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:51 PM (hku12)

278 Sharkman, that's fake. Beyond the folly of rolling a 747, no one in her right mind would do it at two hundred feet.


Much less coming into an airport.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 01:52 PM (wc1vX)

279 Good afternoon LadyL, hope you're doing well!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:52 PM (a4qVe)

280 I wonder if Harry and Meghan are at Daytona.

Much snark.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 01:52 PM (ghFVE)

281 ot a new car a couple of weeks ago and went looking for WeatherTechs for the front. Happened on some knock-offs that were half the price and had excellent reviews. Took a chance, and I'm happy to say that they are terrific. Fit perfectly too, just as WTs.

Posted by: IrishEi

What is the name of the knockoffs?

Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (vd8XM)

282 Hey, Eris, I missed your comment in the Book Thread about whether The Expanse series of books is recommended.



HIGHLY recommended,


Ditto. The TV series is very well done also. There are scenes where they pull off a chapters worth of back-story/pain with a look.

Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (FhXTo)

283 Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 01:39 PM (V2Yro)


"I've found a new way to lose weight'.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (Hg4NE)

284 >>You need a campaign manager. I can't do it because I plan to be in charge of bimbo eruptions and I understand that will be a full-time job.

It will be a cabinet level job in my administration. You will serve alongside my Minister of Rum and Beer.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (ZLI7S)

285 I'm 55. I have a 1995 F-150 XLT with 112k on it.
They can make whatever they want. I'll never need another truck.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (jWe5r)

286 Took a chance, and I'm happy to say that they are terrific. Fit perfectly too, just as WTs.

Posted by: IrishEi

Link?

Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (MTxDQ)

287 I wonder if Harry and Meghan are at Daytona.


Just the thought of all of those smelly, drunken flyover rubes in one place gives me the vapors.

Posted by: Muggles Merkin at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (EgshT)

288 279 Good afternoon LadyL, hope you're doing well!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:52 PM (a4qVe)


Hi Cheriebebe! I'm doing great! How about you?

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (TdMsT)

289
Does HE get to boff the trophy girl till it HERTZ.


I see Paris
I see Bill France
I see chequered underpanties.

Posted by: saf at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (5IHGB)

290 This isn't his lap but here's the beast getting on the track:

@LizRNC

The Beast!

https://tinyurl.com/uxdc9zs

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (cF8AT)

291 Tex Johnson rolling the 707...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AaA7kPfC5Hk

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (XxJt1)

292 What is the name of the knockoffs?
Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (vd8XM)
~~~~~

3D MAXpider All-Weather Mat

Got them on Amazon. $60!

Posted by: IrishEi at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (sGotD)

293 Have any of short rounds followers noted, the only way he became a billionaire is by not sharing with his workers? HE DID NOT SHARE!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (2ygtH)

294 It will be a cabinet level job in my administration. You will serve alongside my Minister of Rum and Beer.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (ZLI7S)
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Ooh, thank you. I know it will be a demanding job but I will work tirelessly for my lime daiquiri at the end of each week. Someone else can have the beer.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (/669Q)

295
My neighbor drove from Columbus to Orlando in their Tesla and it only cost him 10.00 dollars because most of the charging stations were free

Who gives away free electricity?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (aKsyK)

296 3D MAXpider All-Weather Mat

Got them on Amazon. $60!

Posted by: IrishEi

Excellent!

Thank you!

Posted by: Bruce at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (vd8XM)

297 Sorry. I love NASCAR, Trump and all sorts of redneck stuff. But this country music crap needs a mute.

I don't get it.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (jWe5r)

298 Ok, so it was a dumb question, and thanks for answering it without saying so.
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No, I think it could be done but its going to have to be a huge drone like one of those Air Force ones that circle the globe. Big enough that it can carry the weight of all those extra batteries its not tapping into and make the run. Which would cost a crapload to build and maintain. Probably not worth the expense to charge your stuck Chevy Leaf.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 01:48 PM (KZzsI)


Right, but that's what I mean. I wanted to know if it was practical, and apparently the answer is resoundingly, "no."

Reminds me of Hughes' Spruce Goose. He made damned sure the thing COULD fly, but also at the same time demonstrated without any question, it would never be practical. Thus showing once again, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (hku12)

299 Tell me true. Do you watch NASCAR for the crashes? It can't be for the 2,000 left turns

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (8Kudz)

300 It will be a cabinet level job in my administration. You will serve alongside my Minister of Rum and Beer.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 01:53 PM (ZLI7S)

I'll take Weed Minister.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (cF8AT)

301 Hi Cheriebebe! I'm doing great! How about you?
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (TdMsT)

Doing good!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (a4qVe)

302
Ooh, thank you. I know it will be a demanding job but I will work tirelessly for my lime daiquiri at the end of each week. Someone else can have the beer.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (/669Q)


I would love to join you for a lime daiquiri!

(My goodness that's hard to spell)

Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (TdMsT)

303 I'll take Weed Minister.
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (cF8AT)
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I kind of figured that job would go to garrett.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (/669Q)

304 I have on occasion, failed said test. Not because I couldn't so something, but because I was on the wrong side of the equation. My thought was, "you ain't puttin' out, honey, I ain't doin' that for you. I'm not your chump."

Her thought, of course, was "I ain't puttin' out until you prove your manliness."
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (hku12)

I had a good friend who was the perfect stereotype of an engineer, and he used to consistently fail that test the other way. Some girl would ask him something simple about an appliance, and he couldn't stop himself from launching into an hour long lecture about the theory of Electrons.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (V2Yro)

305 I want to be chauffeured around in The Beast while you lot pay for it.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)
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Hey everybody, JackStraw is running for president! You heard it here first.

You need a campaign manager. I can't do it because I plan to be in charge of bimbo eruptions and I understand that will be a full-time job.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM (/669Q)


Sounds like there might be some wet work involved. You up for that?

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (hku12)

306 I would love to join you for a lime daiquiri!

(My goodness that's hard to spell)
Posted by: Ladyl at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (TdMsT)
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Quick! Sign up for a position in JackStraw's cabinet and you have have the Minister of Rum and Beer make one for you too.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (/669Q)

307 Tell me true. Do you watch NASCAR for the crashes?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (8Kudz)


No. Nor for any other reason.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (t+qrx)

308 303 I'll take Weed Minister.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:56 PM (cF8AT)
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I kind of figured that job would go to garrett.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (/669Q)

Damnit. I wanna do something!

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (cF8AT)

309 Patrick, how much longer did it take him to get there?
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 01:44 PM (a4qVe)

He thinks it only added about an over an Hour and half , because the car would tell him that he had enough of a charge for the next station. You have to include Bathroom breaks and eating with kids. It coats me about 180 in fuel and he did it for less than 10 dollars.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (dKiJG)

310 Bertram - didn't surprise me, in the beginning its all about free publicity to get it started.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (ZCEU2)

311 Sounds like there might be some wet work involved. You up for that?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (hku12)
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You're asking the lady with the shiv collection, you know.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (/669Q)

312 Who gives away free electricity?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Well, quite frankly, it ain't free, but since you're the one paying, we'll keep that lie alive.

Posted by: Green new deal at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (2ygtH)

313 Nope. Nobody has ever rolled 747. In fact, unless you disable some safety features it's not even possible.

Now to pay attention to Daytona.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (XxJt1)

314 Darius Rucker having to apologize for making an appearance where PDT will also be in 3...2...1...

Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (PkVlr)

315 261- wasn't dumb, who knows what the future holds? We aren't tapping nearly the energy available. I think there are incredible efficiency gains still available. Mazda is supposed to have developed a new skyactiv motor (whatever that is) that makes good ol gas much more efficient as a fuel (something like 70% for motive force- I think the best today are under 50. That makes energy dense compounds like hydrocarbons (gas) much more efficient power/weight than any extant batteries.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (87EdW)

316 Damnit. I wanna do something!
Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (cF8AT)
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Minister of Grilling. We will need some good steaks to go with those daiquiris.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 02:00 PM (/669Q)

317 My comment on EVs: in season 2 of Grand Tour, Richard Hammonds drives all over Switzerland in a Croatian "hyper car." It looks super cool, it's wicked fast, even compared to the Lambo that Clarkson is driving. then Hammonds takes it to a hill climb time trial. Just across the finish line, the "throttle" sticks open or faults. He ends up roof side down in a wreck that should have killed him. He was fine. But get this: the car burned for 5(!?) days, as the battery cells continued to cook off. Electric isn't green, OR safe.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:00 PM (7Fj9P)

318 My dad was big into racing and we've watched it since King Richard ruled the tracks. Racing isn't as fun because they've added restrictor plates, phantom track debris, and just too many frickin rules.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:00 PM (a4qVe)

319 >>Damnit. I wanna do something!

Don't worry, there will be plenty to do since I will be spending most of my time on Air Force One and in the Beast someone is going have to do the actual work.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 02:01 PM (ZLI7S)

320 I only casually have ever watched NASCAR, If anything the very few times they use a road track.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 02:01 PM (ZCEU2)

321 I have on occasion, failed said test. Not because I couldn't so something, but because I was on the wrong side of the equation. My thought was, "you ain't puttin' out, honey, I ain't doin' that for you. I'm not your chump."

Her thought, of course, was "I ain't puttin' out until you prove your manliness."
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:40 PM (hku12)

I had a good friend who was the perfect stereotype of an engineer, and he used to consistently fail that test the other way. Some girl would ask him something simple about an appliance, and he couldn't stop himself from launching into an hour long lecture about the theory of Electrons.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 01:57 PM (V2Yro)


Heh. Alas, the nerd. Thinking she really WANTS to understand it. Occasionally believing he's found Miss Right.

I realize those kinds of couples DO exist. They spend their days discussing how the universe works. Meanwhile, they have plumbing and light fixtures that remain unrepaired for decades.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:01 PM (hku12)

322 Gonna need to shovel a whole lotta coal to power up the grid to power those flimsy Prius batteries for those new trucks...

Posted by: Silence Dogood at February 16, 2020 02:02 PM (SH7Tr)

323 My neighbor drove from Columbus to Orlando in their Tesla and it only cost him 10.00 dollars because most of the charging stations were free

Who gives away free electricity?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (aKsyK)


Taxpayers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 16, 2020 02:02 PM (7p0Hn)

324
My dad was big into racing and we've watched it since King Richard ruled
the tracks. Racing isn't as fun because they've added restrictor
plates, phantom track debris, and just too many frickin rules.

Posted by: Cheriebebe


Could never get into: "Go fast, turn left, turn left, turn left..."

Posted by: Green new deal at February 16, 2020 02:03 PM (2ygtH)

325 Nikola traditionally manufactures electric and hydrogen-powered vehicles for "heavy-duty" use, including semi-trucks, off-roading power sport vehicles, and jet ski-esque watercraft. This is the company's first time entering the soon-to-be crowded electric pickup truck market.

They do, eh? Never heard of them. And the blue lights on the running board look faggy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (LxWV7)

326 Re: the Cybertruck in particular: I get the impression from looking at it that it was designed around the need that Musk needed to get a prototype out without spending a lot of money, so the panels on the outside aren't designed right.

And he used "exotic type of stainless steel" as an excuse.

I'm not sure with the various tax-farming schemes going on that any of these vehicles would be being made.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (dwojT)

327 Harry, do be a dear and make me a sammich.

Posted by: Muggles Merkin at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (EgshT)

328 Off green sock.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (2ygtH)

329 Here's Fox, live from the track, but there's no sound yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (ghFVE)

330 I will put myself forward as Minister of Sloth and Underachievement and I shall perform the duties of the office whether I'm appointed or not.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (gd9RK)

331 Patrick that is pretty impressive. Altho I'm not sure traveling with 3 kids in a Prius is a sane idea.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (a4qVe)

332 Mazda is supposed to have developed a new skyactiv motor (whatever that is) that makes good ol gas much more efficient as a fuel (something like 70% for motive force- I think the best today are under 50.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (87EdW)


It's a catch-all marketing term that covers a lot of drivetrain bits, but for the engine, it means something like a 13:1 compression ratio. On some, it includes regenerative braking that charges a capacitor (instead of a battery) for the hotel load at stoplights so it can disengage the alternator from the A/C, lights, stuff like that, and it doesn't shut off the engine at stops.

No, I don't know how they get a claimed 13:1 compression ratio on 87 octane.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (t+qrx)

333 Harry, do be a dear and make me a sammich.
Posted by: Muggles Merkin at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (EgshT)
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Which reminds me: there will be an opening in President JackStraw's cabinet for Minister of Sammiches. Applications now being accepted.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (/669Q)

334 (Ugh. Maybe I should have said: I doubt that any of these things would be being made without the tax farming schemes that have been implemented.)

(Anyway, y'all get the idea).

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (dwojT)

335 330 I will put myself forward as Minister of Sloth and Underachievement and I shall perform the duties of the office whether I'm appointed or not.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (gd9RK)

Oh this, this I can do! I'll be your assistant.

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (cF8AT)

336 Darius Rucker having to apologize for making an appearance where PDT will also be in 3...2...1...
Posted by: Nurse ratched
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Oh thanks. Now 'Wagon Wheel' is going to be the earworm du jour. Great road tune:

https://tinyurl.com/mucamm9

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (ZMWtN)

337 295
My neighbor drove from Columbus to Orlando in their Tesla and it only cost him 10.00 dollars because most of the charging stations were free

Who gives away free electricity?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (aKsyK)

Some places have courtesy charges.

We bought HUSKY LINERS made in the USA for our mini van


My brother in law said at the Ford Dealer he worked for had a wooden shepherd's hook in case the mechanic is getting electrocuted and you could pull him off.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (dKiJG)

338 Who gives away free electricity?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (aKsyK)


Taxpayers. You.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (gd9RK)

339 315 261- wasn't dumb, who knows what the future holds? We aren't tapping nearly the energy available. I think there are incredible efficiency gains still available. Mazda is supposed to have developed a new skyactiv motor (whatever that is) that makes good ol gas much more efficient as a fuel (something like 70% for motive force- I think the best today are under 50. That makes energy dense compounds like hydrocarbons (gas) much more efficient power/weight than any extant batteries.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (87EdW)


Yes, we have a future that none of us can properly conceive... if we don't kill ourselves first.

My assumption has been, someday vehicles will all be, not propelled by fuel, but pulled by a magnetic field, in such a way where no fuel will be present inside the vehicle itself.

And self-driving appears to be inevitable, so you program your destination, then sit back and let the vehicle take you. All part of a grid, so that every possible intersection with every other possible vehicle is "known" in a way that accidents are all but entirely eliminated.

I won't live to see it, but I think it only makes sense to go that way.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (hku12)

340 I will put myself forward as Minister of Sloth and Underachievement and I shall perform the duties of the office whether I'm appointed or not.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (gd9RK)


I'd fight you for that honor but eh... effort.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (t+qrx)

341 Hottie ain't gonna apologize. He did a video with the Duck Dynasty folks. Even if he ain't overt, he's sure not covert. Worst case is implicit versus explicit for him.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (87EdW)

342 There's a pickup war coming, and it's going to be electric.


Yeah. No.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 02:07 PM (ykID5)

343 Solmeme with a Ricky Bobby one...

https://tinyurl.com/vspyloc

Posted by: Tami at February 16, 2020 02:07 PM (cF8AT)

344
As someone who actually uses a pickup truck in daily work, hauling lumber, trash, dirt, building materials of all sorts, furniture, etc, etc, I'd be happy if the manufacturers would start making trucks with a real honest-to-goodness 8-foot box again. Unless you special order one, you're pretty much consigned to the used market, and they're beginning to get old and rusty.

The current crop of "trucks" are anything but. Luxurious, high-riding cars with a box the size of a steamer trunk.
Posted by: Bret at February 16, 2020 01:26 PM (Wnxq0)







You sure your name isn't Chris? Because that's almost word for word my buddy Chris' rant about modern trucks and the difficulties in finding a long bed pickup. Except he hauls hay and horse trailers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 16, 2020 02:07 PM (eXA4G)

345 Mazda is supposed to have developed a new skyactiv motor (whatever that is) that makes good ol gas much more efficient as a fuel (something like 70% for motive force- I think the best today are under 50.
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Wankel for the WIN!! (please zoom...)

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:08 PM (7Fj9P)

346 Sounds like there might be some wet work involved. You up for that?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:58 PM (hku12)
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You're asking the lady with the shiv collection, you know.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:59 PM (/669Q)


Yes ma'am. And again, it's not a question of can, but a question of will.

By the way, you asked some time ago where I moved to, and if you are still wondering, the answer, which is as specific as I am going to be at this time is, Colorado.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:08 PM (hku12)

347 I'd fight you for that honor but eh... effort.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (t+qrx)
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Sorry hogmartin but your skills are way too valuable to squander. You shall be Minister of Cybersecurity and Hacking into the DNC. Part of your duties for the latter will be changing all their email entreaties into fund-raising for the second term of President JackStraw.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 02:08 PM (/669Q)

348 mr. creeper used to ferry A.J. Foyt to and from races. A.J. was a prince...until you crossed him.

IIRC, the last Daytona saw A.J. boarding the airplane in a leg cast. He didn't know any way to drive but lights out.

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:08 PM (XxJt1)

349 Tex Johnson rolled a 707 prototype 65 years ago over Lake Washington.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (PkVlr)

350 AOP - To my surprise the local PBS affiliate aired a brief 4-5 minute segment last night on the resting place of your donated crystals:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yx4aex5c

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (ZMWtN)

351 Could never get into: "Go fast, turn left, turn left, turn left..."
Posted by: Green new deal at February 16, 2020 02:03 PM (2ygtH)

I get that. Racing isn't a 'regular' sport. I just don't like the people that don't "get" racing that slam it.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (a4qVe)

352 You're asking the lady with the shiv collection, you know.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February




you reuse shivs?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (HALdu)

353 By the way, you asked some time ago where I moved to, and if you are still wondering, the answer, which is as specific as I am going to be at this time is, Colorado.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:08 PM (hku12)
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Ah, very nice! Beautiful state. I hope you are very happy there.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (/669Q)

354 Earlier, when AF1 did the flyover, the announcer (in the video I linked) referred to the President as "46"! And commenters were saying, "That'll be Don Jr.!"

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (ghFVE)

355 I get the impression from looking at it that it was designed around the need that Musk needed to get a prototype out without spending a lot of money, so the panels on the outside aren't designed right.

And he used "exotic type of stainless steel" as an excuse.


My brother thinks its a scam to raise revenue. All those pre-orders are cash on the barrel for him to work with, but the truck is just to get the pre-orders.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 02:10 PM (KZzsI)

356 "Hootie" (stupid autocucumber). Normally I'd ignore, but, you know.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 16, 2020 02:10 PM (87EdW)

357 Racing @ Daytona should be a beach in a Ferrari Daytona in Bike Week.
Moar Bitches 'n Boobs than you can shake a stick shift at,and ample opportunities for anal sunning...bring the kids.

Posted by: saf at February 16, 2020 02:10 PM (5IHGB)

358 IIRC, the last Daytona saw A.J. boarding the airplane in a leg cast. He didn't know any way to drive but lights out.


Posted by: creeper



Race drivers, fighter pilots. Idle or red line.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:10 PM (2ygtH)

359 Mazda has been working on a new engine used in road racing like
le Mans, and F- 1 cars use some kind of kinetic energy breaking system that charges a battery for later use.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)

360 My brother thinks its a scam to raise revenue.

aka Elon's entire business model.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -To Mars! at February 16, 2020 02:11 PM (ykID5)

361 comment on EVs: in season 2 of Grand Tour, Richard Hammonds drives all over Switzerland in a Croatian "hyper car." It looks super cool, it's wicked fast, even compared to the Lambo that Clarkson is driving. then Hammonds takes it to a hill climb time trial. Just across the finish line, the "throttle" sticks open or faults. He ends up roof side down in a wreck that should have killed him. He was fine. But get this: the car burned for 5(!?) days, as the battery cells continued to cook off. Electric isn't green, OR safe.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:00 PM (7Fj9P)

We looked at the Pacifca Hybrid but the batteries were right where my son sits so we just got the gas and it gets 28 MPG. No way am I having the batteries that can catch on fire right under my son.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (dKiJG)

362 Hiya anyone have a link for the Daytona 500?

Posted by: ALH at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (Xe15a)

363 I will put myself forward as Minister of Sloth and Underachievement and I shall perform the duties of the office whether I'm appointed or not.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 02:04 PM (gd9RK)

I'd fight you for that honor but eh... effort.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:06 PM (t+qrx)


If there's an office of the Undersecretary For Criticizing Everything and Everybody, I would like to put myself up for that position. I have a very particular set of skills, which I have developed over a long career.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (hku12)

364 We are looking at Trucks because we want to tow a camper and we are looking at getting a some type of Diesel Truck and we were impressed that they get good mileage along with better towing depending on what we buy.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 12:21 PM (dKiJG)

I have owned three Diesel Suburbans, so I am definitely not anti-Diesel. But I would not buy a current-model Diesel truck.

1. They cost a lot more to buy, and more to service.

2. You have to put monkey piss in a tank to "clean up" their exhaust. This basically amounts to an additional tax on fuel, that provides exactly zero perceived benefit to the user.

3. The increase in fuel mileage is offset by the fact that Diesel now sells for a lot more than gasoline.

If you routinely tow heavy loads, the better towing qualities of the Diesel engine might offset these negatives. That's for you to decide.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (LxWV7)

365
Tex Johnson rolled a 707 prototype 65 years ago over Lake Washington.





Posted by: Nurse ratched


During Seafair!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (2ygtH)

366 No, I don't know how they get a claimed 13:1 compression ratio on 87 octane.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Possibly the mechanical ratio. The actual effective ratio might be less, particularly assuming variable vale timing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (2kj6M)

367 Who gives away free electricity?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 01:55 PM (aKsyK)

Taxpayers. You.



Bernie!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 02:13 PM (wc1vX)

368 Possibly the mechanical ratio. The actual effective ratio might be less, particularly assuming variable vale timing.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (2kj6M)


Clearly, I have much to learn.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:13 PM (t+qrx)

369 I don't know the voltage and current of an EV battery,

Look at the 00 or thicker gauge cables.
And you can put a gasoline fire out.

Posted by: DaveA at February 16, 2020 02:13 PM (FhXTo)

370 Some rat, is it safe to assume you are the voice of experience in at least one of those fields...airplanes or race cars?

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 02:14 PM (XxJt1)

371 362 Hiya anyone have a link for the Daytona 500?
Posted by: ALH at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (Xe15a)

I think this is gonna work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:14 PM (ghFVE)

372 291 Tex Johnson rolling the 707...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AaA7kPfC5Hk

Posted by: creeper at February 16, 2020 01:54 PM (XxJt1)


Beautiful, 'course it would be Tex Johnson.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:14 PM (Hg4NE)

373 Meh, I am not a tesla fanboi but they do seem to have achieved some things that the other big manuffactuers have not.

I am something of a fanboi of Porsche and their new Taycan underperforms Tesla bigly.

A lot of guys have wasted a lot of money betting against them.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:14 PM (HALdu)

374 My husband is lusting after a Ford 350 dually...

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 02:14 PM (UUBmN)

375 By the way, you asked some time ago where I moved to, and if you are still wondering, the answer, which is as specific as I am going to be at this time is, Colorado.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:08 PM (hku12)
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Ah, very nice! Beautiful state. I hope you are very happy there.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (/669Q)


Thank you! Yes, I turn my head to the left right now, look at the vista that dominates the landscape, and it is like nothing else on the planet, literally.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:15 PM (hku12)

376 Minister of Sammiches. Applications now being accepted.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (/669Q)

This ones MINE!! I excel at sammich making!!!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:16 PM (a4qVe)

377 I don't care to watch racing, because it's boring to me. But, I'll watch poker for hours, and I realize others would find that as exciting as watching paint dry.

Posted by: April at February 16, 2020 02:16 PM (OX9vb)

378 hiya Rat!

*waves across Sound*

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 02:16 PM (PkVlr)

379 'Merica.

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:16 PM (ghFVE)

380
Some rat, is it safe to assume you are the voice of experience in at least one of those fields...airplanes or race cars?


Posted by: creeper


Heh, nope, but dad did some local stock car racing...Spokane, and State line Idaho.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:16 PM (2ygtH)

381 Patrick that is pretty impressive. Altho I'm not sure traveling with 3 kids in a Prius is a sane idea.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:05 PM (a4qVe)

It was a Tesla and the Wife swears they won't do it again. I love to drive and I lower the seats in the back so that whe I get tired I can sleep in the back while one of us drives.

The day they have self drive RV will be great.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (dKiJG)

382 It has a maximum range of 600 miles by using its fuel cell - hydrogen - and battery power sources.

Just drive down to the hydrogen station and top off.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 12:25 PM (aKsyK)

A company in Vancouver, B.C., Ballard Power Systems, has long been pushing hydrogen fuel cells. I think they sold some fuel cell powered buses to B.C. Transit, the government transit company. They did not work as well as planned. If fuel cells cannot work in a controlled environment like that, how will they ever work "out in the wild"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (LxWV7)

383 I don't know the voltage and current of an EV battery,

Look at the 00 or thicker gauge cables.
And you can put a gasoline fire out.
Posted by: DaveA
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Li-ion = 3.6V, current capacity will depend on the cell size.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (2kj6M)

384 Mazda has been working on a new engine used in road racing like
le Mans, and F- 1 cars use some kind of kinetic energy breaking system that charges a battery for later use.
Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)


This might be what I was referring to in #332. My Mazda6 has some kind of regenerative engine braking system ("i-ELOOP™") that charges a capacitor when you let off the accelerator. It's supposed to manage routine hotel loads like climate control, lights, stereo, etc so it can decouple the alternator from those loads for a minute or two.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (t+qrx)

385 Thank you m

Posted by: ALH at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (Xe15a)

386 Interesting juxtaposition.

Trump riding The Beast in person to lead a celebration of Americana

Bloomberg buying ads to tout how he'll problem solve away a lot of Americana.

So who's going to win the South and Mid-West

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (8Kudz)

387 nood puerto rico

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:17 PM (ghFVE)

388 Nurse! Waves back! Still have cider for ya if you get to this side of the pond!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (2ygtH)

389 I cannot ever believe that an Electric vehicle will ever be "Better" for the environment.

First. 1st law of Thermodynamics "Energy can neither be created or destroyed, it only changes state." (So chemical to mechanical).

2. No perfect transfer of energy exist. You will never get 100% of your original energy back.

Now knowing these things lets start at fossil fuels. You burn the fuels (Gas)to power the car (Chemical to Mechanical.)


New model. Burn fuel (Coal) make electricity, run through wires (Line Loss electricity). Charge battery (Electricity to Chemical). Use battery to run car (Chemical to Electricity to Mechanical)

Sounds like a great plan. Count me out.

Posted by: Picric at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (nonGu)

390 Thank you! Yes, I turn my head to the left right now, look at the vista that dominates the landscape, and it is like nothing else on the planet, literally.
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If you haven't yet, take a weekend (or longer) and head down to Montrose and check out the Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP. it's spectacular. it's like they shoved the Grand Canyon together so the rims are less than a mile apart. It's breathtaking.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (7Fj9P)

391 Clearly, I have much to learn.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:13 PM


First, you have to understand the functioning of the turbo encabulator.

Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (OMsf+)

392 New truck gas engines are so strong and maintenance free one must really work a truck in order to justify a diesel.


That they are dropping big V8s from the menu is the problem.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (Hg4NE)

393
My brother thinks its a scam to raise revenue. All those pre-orders are cash on the barrel for him to work with, but the truck is just to get the pre-orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February



The fee to pre-order the truck is $100, so

The model 3 required $1000

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM (HALdu)

394 First, you have to understand the functioning of the turbo encabulator.
Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (OMsf+)


No mortal man can truly understand the nature of turbo-encabulation.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM (t+qrx)

395 Meh, I am not a tesla fanboi but they do seem to have achieved some things that the other big manuffactuers have not.

I am something of a fanboi of Porsche and their new Taycan underperforms Tesla bigly.

A lot of guys have wasted a lot of money betting against them.
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 02:14 PM (HALdu)


Of course, there is something to be said for fierce competition, as a driver of innovation.

I don't know if Musk is a charlatan or not. Maybe more accurately, the question is how MUCH of a charlatan he is, because all great innovators in history have had at least a bit of carnival barker in their DNA.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM (hku12)

396 I want PDT to say, "Whose victory? Your victory! Four more years!"

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM (ghFVE)

397 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 02:12 PM (LxWV7)

Thanks, I saw they changed the diesel standards I don't mind changing the oil myself.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at February 16, 2020 02:21 PM (dKiJG)

398 If you haven't yet, take a weekend (or longer) and head down to Montrose and check out the Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP. it's spectacular. it's like they shoved the Grand Canyon together so the rims are less than a mile apart. It's breathtaking.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (7Fj9P)

Don't, that place sucks sweaty balls.

Posted by: Infidel at February 16, 2020 02:21 PM (MTxDQ)

399 Have a 4wd F-150 but would love a Raptor version so But in the End
Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 12:22 PM (ZCEU2)

10 I still just want a pony.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at February 16, 2020 12:23 PM (EgshT)

11 when do I get a nuclear powered car?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 12:24 PM (G546f)

Where's my flying car!? I was promised a flying car, dangit!

Posted by: Headless Roland at February 16, 2020 02:22 PM (z79tQ)

400 lin-duh!

how are you feeling, hun? getting over the flu?

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 02:23 PM (PkVlr)

401 Thank you! Yes, I turn my head to the left right now, look at the vista that dominates the landscape, and it is like nothing else on the planet, literally.
=====================
If you haven't yet, take a weekend (or longer) and head down to Montrose and check out the Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP. it's spectacular. it's like they shoved the Grand Canyon together so the rims are less than a mile apart. It's breathtaking.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (7Fj9P)


It's on my agenda. I've been there before, but it was many years ago. Same could be said of Canyonlands, in Utah. The Grand Canyon is grand and all, but Canyonlands is two, count 'em, TWO canyons with nearly as much spectacularity as the GC.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 02:24 PM (hku12)

402 When do we get to see the president?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 02:24 PM (Hg4NE)

403 First, you have to understand the functioning of the turbo encabulator.
Posted by: Bert G at February 16, 2020 02:18 PM (OMsf+)

No mortal man can truly understand the nature of turbo-encabulation.
Posted by: hogmartin
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There are two fundamental problems, first, the phalange plates *must* be made of unobtanium, secondly, on account of corrosion resistance, only crapalloy may be used for the separator vanes, and we all know how rare crapalloy is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:24 PM (/dN1M)

404 The live chat at the youtube NSACAR link is pretty funny. They're ALL Morons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:25 PM (ghFVE)

405 Shame about the infrastructure. Someone else get on that. I'm just the ideas guy.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 12:40 PM (t+qrx)

We already have the infrastructure, in place, and operating, to transport and market hydrogen. We just coordinate hydrogen atoms around a lesser number of carbon atoms, creating a range of liquid and gaseous fuels which are easy transport and burn.

There is more hydrogen in a gallon of gasoline, than there is in a gallon of liquid hydrogen. True fact.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 02:28 PM (LxWV7)

406 Nikola? And relationship to Tesla?

Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at February 16, 2020 02:28 PM (cJqki)

407 Nurse,
Thanks for asking. Yes, I'm feeling better but still feel tired all the time. Also a bit of dizziness and light headedness. I guess that just means I'm not over it completely yet. I think it took me about 3-4 weeks before I felt myself again last time I got the flu.

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 02:29 PM (UUBmN)

408 You need a campaign manager. I can't do it because I plan to be in charge of bimbo eruptions and I understand that will be a full-time job.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe2020! at February 16, 2020 01:50 PM


I suspect that after the first two or three bimbos are shown a shiv, the job will turn into being the fictional Maytag repairperson.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 02:32 PM (DMUuz)

409 PDT and Melania!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_H6NjiIMk

Posted by: m at February 16, 2020 02:35 PM (ghFVE)

410 No mortal man can truly understand the nature of turbo-encabulation.
Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 02:20 PM


Ahem.

Posted by: Ens. Wesley Crusher at February 16, 2020 02:45 PM (DMUuz)

411 Could drones potentially be the answer? Sending a drone with enough electrical juice to charge a stranded vehicle?
Posted by: BurtTC at February 16, 2020 01:33 PM (hku12)

Yeah, if the drone were the size of a heavy-lift helicopter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 02:49 PM (LxWV7)

412 LinDuh, talk DH into the straight F350. Or not, you don't have much ice worries in Texas, Dually is not so good on slick roads. They make them for folks with super heavy LQ horse trailers that need dually to handle the bed weight, and the 'cool' factor but like diesel itself you pay extra for routine maintenance for dually.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at February 16, 2020 02:53 PM (n4y+3)

413 My dad was big into racing and we've watched it since King Richard ruled the tracks. Racing isn't as fun because they've added restrictor plates, phantom track debris, and just too many frickin rules.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at February 16, 2020 02:00 PM (a4qVe)

That, and they are not "stock" cars anymore, nor do they even remotely resemble them. NASCAR is now formula car racing. Full stop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 03:07 PM (LxWV7)

414 LinDuh, talk DH into the straight F350.
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Oh, did I mention he also wants an 11.5 foot, triple slide truck camper to put back there? That's the he "needs" a dually... *rolls eyes*

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 03:09 PM (UUBmN)

415 AOP - To my surprise the local PBS affiliate aired a brief 4-5 minute segment last night on the resting place of your donated crystals:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yx4aex5c
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 02:09 PM (ZMWtN)

Nice video. Editing kind of choppy. There is a pretty nice radio museum in Bellingham, Washington, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 03:15 PM (LxWV7)

416 I have a 10-year-old Duramax Allison crew-cab dually - 4x4, so winter not a problem. Tow 11k fifth wheel up and down the big dune between Lake Michigan and Lake Huron, done masonry and deck building that beat the crap out of the bed - 4k pallet of bricks no issue. Gets 19mpg empty at 60mph, but I wish the Allison had another gear for higher speed travel. 12mpg towing that trailer, but drops to 10.5 at 80 mph.

Posted by: Apb at February 16, 2020 03:38 PM (wUn1D)

417
Rod Stewart, Gasoline Alley.

Now that's a blast from the past, MisHum!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 16, 2020 03:42 PM (sy5kK)

418 I predict that the Tesla PU will replace the DeLorean in Pedowood's next remake of Back to the Future.
Because that's about all a Tesla is good for.

Posted by: jdgalt at February 16, 2020 04:59 PM (3SFo/)

419 Looking at the current offerings reminds me:

First truck of my own: '86 Toy HiLux 4x4. Absolutely indestructible. I loved it to death, but 10 years later life changed and I had to do a lot of interstate driving and wanted ABS/airbags. Sold it and got a Ram. What a complete piece of shit.

Why is there nobody selling a cheap, standard cab 4x4 any more? I don't want a fashion statement, I just want to haul crap around. "Crew" and "extended" cabs do nothing but detract from bed space, the raison d'etre of a pickup.

Idiot manufacturers.

Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2020 07:30 PM (RnWbG)

420 northern CLIMES as in climates

Posted by: Francesca at February 16, 2020 10:14 PM (ZhCec)

421 NOT northern CLIMBS.

Posted by: Francesca at February 16, 2020 10:16 PM (ZhCec)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-16-2020

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Newnham Library, Cambridge University


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), roadies, toadies, flunkies, hangers-on and other posterior osculators. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants which appear to be making a statement, namely, hey everybody, look at me, I'm a dork.



Pic Note:

Newnham College Library is

...one of the best-stocked undergraduate college libraries in Cambridge, with a collection of some 100,000 volumes, including approximately 6,000 rare books. The collection is kept as relevant, up-to-date and useful as possible by the annual purchase of more than 1,000 new titles to support undergraduate study in all subjects.

A dedicated library building was first built at Newnham in 1897. It has developed since then and was greatly expanded with a new building in 2004.

I was impressed by the library's hardwood floor. You get a better view of it in this photo.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®


The Germans have a word for everything.



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Trump's Books -- Part 1

If I were a reporter assigned to cover Trump, the first thing I'd do is try to find out as much as I could about him. I'd try to find out what he thinks and why he thinks what he thinks. And one of the ways I could accomplish this is to find out what books he has read, what books he recommends and which books are his favorites.

I wonder how many of the reporters yelling questions at the president as he walks to his waiting helicopter have actually done this?

Anyway, I found this article that contains a list of Donald Trump's 10 favorite books. The author doesn't say how she knows this is the definitive top-10 list, so I'm taking her word for it here.

What surprised me most about Trump's book list is how much China seems to occupy his attention. 5 out of the 10 listed books are about China. The article also says:

The Los Angeles Times once reported that Trump once listed his favorite 20 books on China off the top of his head.

Oooh that Drumpf is such a big dummy! Sitting around in his bathrobe, guzzling Diet Coke and watching the Gorilla Channel all day. So they keep telling us.

Anyway, the idea that I've heard floated that Trump was going to get rolled in any deal made with the Chinese is laughable.

The first book on China on Trump's list is the one that's probably the most known: Mao: The Unknown Story by Jung Chang

The most authoritative life of the Chinese leader every written, Mao: The Unknown Story is based on a decade of research, and on interviews with many of Mao’s close circle in China who have never talked before — and with virtually everyone outside China who had significant dealings with him. It is full of startling revelations, exploding the myth of the Long March, and showing a completely unknown Mao: he was not driven by idealism or ideology; his intimate and intricate relationship with Stalin went back to the 1920s, ultimately bringing him to power; he welcomed Japanese occupation of much of China; and he schemed, poisoned, and blackmailed to get his way. After Mao conquered China in 1949, his secret goal was to dominate the world. In chasing this dream he caused the deaths of 38 million people in the greatest famine in history. In all, well over 70 million Chinese perished under Mao’s rule — in peacetime.

Maoists and Mao's apologists really, really, really hate this book.

The second book deals with Mao's Communist Party legacy: The Party: The Secret World of China's Communist Rulers by Richard McGregor, which is

...Financial Times reporter Richard McGregor’s eye-opening investigation into China’s Communist Party, and the integral role it has played in the country’s rise as a global superpower and rival to the United States. Many books have examined China’s economic rise, human rights record, turbulent history, and relations with the U.S.; none until now, however, have tackled the issue central to understanding all of these issues: how the ruling communist government works. The Party delves deeply into China’s secretive political machine.

And, in post-Mao China, Tide Players: The Movers and Shakers of a Rising China by Jianying Zha, a book which

...depicts a new generation of movers and shakers who are transforming modern China. Through half a dozen sharply etched and nuanced profiles, Tide Players captures both the concrete detail and the epic dimension of life in the world’s fastest-growing economy.

Zha’s vivid cast of characters includes an unlikely couple who teamed up to become the country’s leading real-estate moguls; a gifted chameleon who transformed himself from Mao’s favorite “barefoot doctor” during the Cultural Revolution to a publishing maverick; and a tycoon of home-electronic chain stores who insisted on avenging his mother, who had been executed as “a counter-revolutionary criminal.” Alongside these entrepreneurs, Zha also brings us the intellectuals: a cantankerous professor at China’s top university; a former cultural minister turned prolific writer; and Zha’s own brother, a dissident who served a nine-year prison term for helping to found the China Democracy Party.

One Billion Customers: Lessons from the Front Lines of Doing Business in China by James McGregor

...shows how to navigate the often treacherous waters of Chinese deal-making. Brilliantly written by an author who has lived in China for nearly two decades, the book reveals indispensable, street-smart strategies, tactics, and lessons for succeeding in the world's fastest growing consumer market.

Foreign companies rightly fear that Chinese partners, customers, or suppliers will steal their technology or trade secrets or simply pick their pockets. Testy relations between China's Communist leaders and the United States and other democracies can trap foreign companies in a political crossfire. McGregor has seen or experienced it all, and now he shares his insights into how China really works.

I'm impressed with these choices. Trump picked books on China's history, who the movers and shakers in China are, how their government works, and how to do business in this rapidly expanding market. Again, the idea he's going to get taken to the cleaners by the Chinese is simply not credible.

Next week I'll discuss the other books on Trump's favorites list.



Who Dis:

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Last week's 'who dis' was child actress Margaret O'Brien who continued to act into adulthood and her last film credit was in 2018.



Moron Recommendations

27 So a couple of weeks ago I mentioned Rosemary Taylor's Chicken Every Sunday, which was a memoir of growing up in Tucson in the early years of the 20th century.

While looking for other books of hers (she did a handful, all set in the West), I saw that she penned a sequel to Chicken called Ridin' the Rainbow. While her first book concentrated on her mother and the boarders who lived with the family, Rainbow centers itself on her father and his schemes for getting the family on to Easy Street.

If you liked Chicken, you will like Rainbow. Thumbs up!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 09, 2020 09:11 AM (Ki5SV)

It's a national tragedy that Rosemary Taylor's books are long OOP. I've read Chicken Every Sunday: My Life with Mother's Boarders and it's an absolute delight. This sequel, Ridin' the rainbow: Father's life in Tucson, sounds like more of the same:

The uproarious sequel to Rosemary Taylor's bestseller "Chicken Every Sunday". With a mind full of ideas and promotions and a thrifty wife by his side to boot, father goes west. Here are all the schemes and plans that ten men could have had, some foolhardy, some implausible, but many panning out in new riches, ostrich farms, and pine nuts plantings, real estate and laundries, coffee beans and street cars. You'll learn the most original manner for getting a lady out of a cellar (don't ask), what happened to a telegram father sent the Pope, how a President was kidnapped, and what makes a mule run? Father could outwit a dowager, start a railroad in two days, and yet a New York city slicker could steal twenty dollars from him with a hard-luck story.

Reading the first book, I was struck with how you could just go to Tucson and find something to do, start some business venture, or perhaps provide some service, to earn money and even bring in a bit of prosperity. America seemed like a place where anything could happen and the possibilities seemingly endless.

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Always nice to get a rec/review from JTB:

33 I rarely pay attention to various book of the year type awards as they almost never contain books I care about. But there is the odd exception. I just read "The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse", written and illustrated by Charlie Mackesy. It's difficult to describe. In short, the characters meet in a rural area, get to know one another, and exchange some pholosophical observations. All this accompanied by minimalist pen and ink drawings. The end.

The effect of the book is more complicated to explain its appeal, at least to adults. There are echoes of Winnie the Pooh and Wind in the Willows in the childhood (not childish) innocence of wonder and discovery. The setting could be The Hundred Acre Wood or the Shire. The artwork is rough and sketchy but is still very effective, even poignant, and contributes to the feel of childhood. Even the text is cursive, with the appearence of being written with a broad nib dip pen. It is almost caligraphy. Some criticisms gripe about the simplistic, sugary observations. Others that the text is difficult to read or the illustrations are too sketchy. They miss the point. And I suspect they value a sophistication (theirs) over basics in life.

I found the book to be charming and relaxing. It was easy to get into the world of the story. The 'sugary' observations are a reminder that the basics in life are important. That there is joy in discovery and friendship. And it is a wonderful distraction from the constant noise, lies and hate bombarding us from the 24 hour news cycle.

The book isn't cheap but most libraries will have it. And I noticed it is in the adult section, not the children's area. I liked it enough to get a hardcover edition to own.

Posted by: JTB at February 09, 2020 09:15 AM (7EjX1)

Looking at The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse, I definitely picked up a "Wind in the Willows" impression from it. It features 100 color and black-and-white drawings. And when JTB said the book "isn't cheap", I was expecting something in the $30-40 price range. So I was pleasantly surprised that the Amazon price for the hardcover edition is $13.49.

So it may go on my Christmas list.


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31 I read The Princes of Ireland by Edward Rutherfurd. The author of Sarum, London, and Russka turns his attention to the history of Ireland as he traces the lives of a handful of families through the ages in this work of historical fiction. A sequel, The Rebels of Ireland, completes the history. I love Rutherfurd's writing as he weaves an interesting story while giving me much new knowledge of Irish history.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 09, 2020 09:13 AM (PevXk)

So The Princes of Ireland: The Dublin Saga is a historical novel that covers, like, 900+ years:

The saga begins in tribal, pre-Christian Ireland during the reign of the fierce and mighty High Kings at Tara, with the tale of two lovers, the princely Conall and the ravishing Deirdre, whose travails cleverly echo the ancient Celtic legend of Cuchulainn. From that stirring beginning, Rutherfurd takes the reader on a powerfully-imagined journey through the centuries. Through the interlocking stories of a memorable cast of characters—druids and chieftains, monks and smugglers, noblewomen and farmwives, merchants and mercenaries, rebels and cowards—we see Ireland through the lens of its greatest city.

And that's just Part 1. It's 800+ pages of sprawling epic. The sequel, The Rebels of Ireland takes almost 900 page to bring you to the modern era. Sounds like something to read on a rainy winter's night.


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Plucked this rec out of one of this week's rant threads:

TJM, go find The Authorized Biography of James Bond ca. 1973, by John Pearson (Fleming's first biographer). It purports to be the actual Bond's life as told to Pearson by Bond. It explains a few things we'd always wondered about, like how he came by the Bentley and his knowledge of high-quality life. It features some original missions, which read very much like Fleming's, and ends with a perfect scene. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 14, 2020 11:51 AM (Ejm1K)

First published in 1973, Pearson's James Bond: The Authorized Biography of 007 has been OOP since the 1990s, although used copies are available. It has been reprinted as James Bond: The Authorised Biography which you can get on Kindle for $6.99.

James Bond has graced our bookshelves and screens for over fifty years. The martini-drinking, super-smooth character has become an icon and national treasure. Like most of the many million James Bond fans around the world, John Pearson assumed that the world's most famous spy was no more than a figment of Fleming's highly charged imagination. Then he began to have his doubts. He finally became convinced that James Bond was not only real but alive and well in Bermuda. With candour, Bond began to recount the story of his life to Pearson, revealing the most amazing series of adventures only hinted at in Ian Fleming's novels. This sensational biography promises to show a side of Bond never seen before.

Wikipedia calls it a "spoof novel", which is perhaps the literary equivalent of fake news. So I guess this is like a book that purports to be the "real" biography of Sherlock Holmes.

Anyway, this sounds like it might be fun for Bond fans. If fiction is blulsiht, then this book is blulsiht overlayed with an additional layer of blulsiht. Purporting to be the truth, it tells you another lie. Which is entertaining in its own way. I'll bet the Germans have a fancy, 10-deutschmark word for this sort of thing, I just don't know what it is.

Author John Pearson also wrote is considered the definitive biography of James Bond's creator, The Life of Ian Fleming. He worked with Fleming at the Sunday Times, and based this biography on

...his own memories of Fleming, on Fleming's private papers, and on a series of interviews with an extraordinary collection of Fleming's contemporaries – family, friends, enemies, teachers, colleagues, mistresses, and former spies from around the world.

First published in 1966, John Pearson's famous biography remains the definitive account of how only Ian Fleming could have dreamed up James Bond, for he led a life as colourful as anything in his fiction, which in turn became a covert autobiography. Charming, debonair and a ruthless womaniser, globetrotting from wartime Algiers to beachside Jamaica, Fleming was as elusive and opaque as his imaginary creation.

On Kindle for $9.99.


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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.



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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 09:10 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:10 AM (7EjX1)

3 Hello.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 09:10 AM (t+qrx)

4 Current doing a re-read of Modesitt's Recluse series. I started with the Fall of Angels which wasn't the first in the series as written, but chronologically it is the first book.

Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2020 09:10 AM (mpXpK)

5 Corgis dutifully called so my work is done here as I still have no new book

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 09:11 AM (ZCEU2)

6 The last time I saw pants like those, they were on an Oompa-Loompa.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:12 AM (7EjX1)

7 I want to say that's Rita Hayworth, but I'm sure I'm wrong.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:12 AM (Ki5SV)

8 How many people live in those pants?

Posted by: BignJames at February 16, 2020 09:13 AM (X/Pw5)

9 Darn: always miss most of the book thread,
My mother went to Newnham College. I'm sorry she's not around to appreciate the picture .

I like the picture of the girls with the book.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 16, 2020 09:13 AM (WI7YS)

10 who dis : Ava Gardner ?

Posted by: runner, up early for some reason at February 16, 2020 09:13 AM (zr5Kq)

11 I read The Whisper Man by Alex North. This is a scary, well-plotted thriller about young boys going missing in a small town where five similar cases happened twenty years ago. The perpetrator of those cases is in prison, so who is the new murderer? A very enjoyable mystery.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 16, 2020 09:14 AM (PevXk)

12 No hand rails on the walk-ways to the upper level books?

Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2020 09:14 AM (mpXpK)

13
g'mornin', bookish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2020 09:14 AM (/9hg/)

14 It always amazes me how oh so smart Leftists are so certain that Trump doesn't read but that he CANNOT read.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 09:14 AM (ZfRYq)

15 7 I want to say that's Rita Hayworth, but I'm sure I'm wrong.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:12 AM (Ki5SV)


That's right, it's not RH.

I'm surprised how much it doesn't look like who it actually is.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 16, 2020 09:15 AM (AWstk)

16 ava gardner

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:15 AM (ONvIw)

17 I actually like those pants- they look like something comfy to lounge about the house with. But never go outside.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:15 AM (Ki5SV)

18 Katharine Hepburn?

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 09:15 AM (Z/jzm)

19 10 who dis : Ava Gardner ?
Posted by: runner, up early for some reason at February 16, 2020 09:13 AM (zr5Kq)

Yep, unmistakeable

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:15 AM (ONvIw)

20 10 who dis : Ava Gardner ?
Posted by: runner, up early for some reason at February 16, 2020 09:13 AM (zr5Kq)


Yes!

Now off to get coffee. Back in a bit.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 16, 2020 09:16 AM (AWstk)

21 Currently reading 'At War in Distant Waters', a history of colonial naval strategy and cruiser battles on a global scale in world war 1.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 16, 2020 09:16 AM (2go+e)

22 Ha ! I WON ! I WON !!

*what did I win ??

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 09:16 AM (zr5Kq)

23 In any event, I finished Ridin' the Rainbow and it is every bit as good and funny as Chicken Every Sunday. "Father" sounds like he would have been a wonderful man to know.

And it is a pity that his world is so long gone.

I often wonder if any of the Tucson the family know still exists.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:17 AM (Ki5SV)

24 Greetings!

The Vampires of Michigan is on the way!

I'm futzing with the Amazon settings and frankly sick of looking at it. Can't wait to move onto something else for a change.

I'll zap an email to our proprietor once I get a gander at a hard copy and am satisfied with the content.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:17 AM (cfSRQ)

25 D'oh!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:18 AM (Ki5SV)

26 Italicans!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:18 AM (cfSRQ)

27 I have a question for all you learned readers and US Civil War Historians, was Ulysses S. Grant known for his sense of humor ? Or, known to have a sense of humor ?

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 09:19 AM (zr5Kq)

28 I was actually going to say Ava Gardner ("sure, you were") because of the sandals; Gardner, as an old farm girl, loved to go barefoot.

Oh, well.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:19 AM (Ki5SV)

29 "*what did I win ??"

A lifetime supply of ketchup.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:19 AM (tT0V4)

30 Last week OM mentioned a book about HMS Thunder Child from HG Wells The War of the Worlds. It got me thinking about the late 70s double LP the Musical Version of The War of the Worlds by Jeff Wayne (Northernlurker and Coregis mentioned it too). A great album to veg out to.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 16, 2020 09:19 AM (P1GvV)

31 Good damage control.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 16, 2020 09:20 AM (dbIsf)

32 I was actually going to say Ava Gardner ("sure, you were") because of the sandals; Gardner, as an old farm girl, loved to go barefoot.

Oh, well.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


cleft gave it away

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 09:20 AM (zr5Kq)

33 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I think I may have started Jung Chang's book about Mao some years ago, but had to return it to the library before I was done. I was kinda busy with life at the time, and sort of mentally shelved it, until I couldn't remember what it was called or who wrote it.

Currently, I'm reading another of her books, Wild Swans, which I learned of right here in this book thread. I am at the point in her memoirs where her mother, an early avid Communist, has fallen out of favor with the party, and is under constant suspicion and supervision.

I just can't help thinking this is our future if we don't turn back the SJW tide.

Posted by: April at February 16, 2020 09:21 AM (OX9vb)

34 >>It always amazes me how oh so smart Leftists are so certain that Trump doesn't read but that he CANNOT read.

It's all part of the Deplorable mantra that worked so well for the left in 2016. We are stoopid.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 09:21 AM (ZLI7S)

35 This week, I got nostalgic for my grandmother and ordered a couple books by one of her favorite lady authors, Elizabeth Goudge. The one I started is The Dean's Watch, which is about a watchmaker and the Dean of a cathedral in 19th century England.

The character development is good and Goudge even develops the historical "character" of the cathedral in order to demonstrate why it has such an impact on the community.

This is not chick lit, although I think she did write some books with more female themes.

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:21 AM (ONvIw)

36 Not sure about US Grant, I remember only the parts of him being a very serious person.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 09:21 AM (ZCEU2)

37 Been reading a whole lot. Bar review. 10 days. Ugh.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:22 AM (4VdFg)

38 A lifetime supply of ketchup.


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oh...I ...am going to donate to charity !

Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 09:23 AM (zr5Kq)

39 cleft gave it away
Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 09:20 AM (zr5Kq)

Yes, nobody quite like her.

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:23 AM (ONvIw)

40 I read "Gettysburg: The Last Invasion" by Allen C. Guelzo. A very good and detailed account of the battle.

Some interesting parts of the book are the political differences among the officers of the Army of the Potomac (pro and anti-McClellan groups). Lee's Army of Northern Virginia had its problems too, including the dislike of North Carolinians. Maybe they didn't have enough secession fever. Some descriptions of the main participates such as Pickett, Armistead, and Sickles (Meade said he was "one of the bigger bubbles of the scum.") reads like some gossip rag.

Guelzo also tackles some myths; Chamberlain and the 20th Maine saved the battle for the Union (it was important and overrated), J.E.B. Stuart lost the battle (Lee had enough cavalry without Stuart) and the Lee/Stuart confrontation after Stuart returned probably never happened. Then there's the blame game for Lee's loss that started after the battle and continues to this day, and who won for the North? Surely not Meade, but everyone else. The bottom line is as the commanders both Lee and Meade are responsible and accountable.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at February 16, 2020 09:23 AM (P1GvV)

41 Awww .... I went to Amazon to look for "Riding the Rainbow" and the less expensive available copy was $30+!
Guess I'll have to just keep my eyes peeled at the next NEISD PTA book sale...
Not much going on this week bookwise; too busy working on client stuff. Came up with a plot twist for the next Luna City book, and that's about it.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 16, 2020 09:23 AM (xnmPy)

42 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.


Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."


- Groucho Marx, who thankfully never wore M. C. Hammer pants.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 16, 2020 09:24 AM (HaL55)

43 'My life is insanity' - if you are still here, I have a couple blueberry bread recipes. I'll catch up with you on the Food Thread.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 09:24 AM (sCVDB)

44 Morning all.

I'm continuing with reading various mysteries I've picked up over the years but never looked at. One thing I've noticed lately is that some of the Brit ones were written by guy who thought of themselves as left, but who show a decided conservative side. i used to think this was just because I tend to prefer older books. And that meant that, like Orwell, they weren't completely rotten.

But now, rereading Scruton (Frauds, Fools, and Firebrands & How to Be a Conservative) I'm not sure there isn't something else as well. He says that there is a strain in Brit Leftist thought (Christopher Hill and E P Thompson, for instance) which is backward looking and which involves a romantic view of the rural working class. He argues that this is very different from continental leftists, and orthodox Marxists like Hobsbawm.

He may be onto something here (though I personally think Hill is worthless. And Ian Christie's Stress and Stability takes an axe to Thompson.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 16, 2020 09:25 AM (ZbwAu)

45 22 Ha ! I WON ! I WON !!

*what did I win ??
Posted by: runner at February 16, 2020 09:16 AM (zr5Kq)
________

A Brass Figligee With Oak Leaf Clusters.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 16, 2020 09:26 AM (ZbwAu)

46 Guelzo also tackles some myths; Chamberlain and the 20th Maine saved the
battle for the Union (it was important and overrated), J.E.B. Stuart
lost the battle (Lee had enough cavalry without Stuart) and the
Lee/Stuart confrontation after Stuart returned probably never happened.
Then there's the blame game for Lee's loss that started after the battle
and continues to this day, and who won for the North? Surely not Meade,
but everyone else. The bottom line is as the commanders both Lee and
Meade are responsible and accountable.
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Meade gets little credit, but if one looks at the strategic situation, he did remarkably well.

The Army of the Potomac just got mauled at Chancellorsville and somehow managed to keep close tabs on Lee and concentrate in reasonably good order at Gettysburg.

Meade was also the first commander of the AoP to use ALL his forces.

Some credit Reynolds or Hancock but delegation is a part of leadership.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)

47 So, since Monday is my birthday, I decided to give myself an early present, and drove up to Avenue Victor Hugo Books in Lee, NH:

https://tinyurl.com/wfb7zxr

I bought a pile of things, but two books I am especially looking forward to reading:

Little Clews (William E. Hingston, 191 - this seems to be a collection of real-life "One Minute Mysteries," all reminiscences of a Boston-based document examiner, which I didn't think existed at the time, but there you are.

I Lost My English Accent (C.V.R. Thompson, 1939) - a travel book / reminiscence by the American correspondent for the London Daily Express, covering the 1920s and 1930s when he went to speakeasies, covered the Lindbergh trial and sought out some people who remembered the St Valentine's Day Massacre, among other things.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:27 AM (Ki5SV)

48 Well, if we're going to talk about Chinese genocide, I'll note that Richard Dawkins has gone and done it.

Richard Dawkins@RichardDawkins
It's one thing to deplore eugenics on ideological, political, moral grounds. It's quite another to conclude that it wouldn't work in practice. Of course it would. It works for cows, horses, pigs, dogs and roses. Why on earth wouldn't it work for humans? Facts ignore ideology.

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So real Nazism has never been tried? Or Nazism hasn't worked because we haven't had the right Fuehrer? Or the problem with Hitler was that he killed some of the wrong people?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 09:27 AM (+y/Ru)

49 I am, kallisto.
I probably won't be able to see the food thread 'til late though, so thanks in advance.

Posted by: My life is insanity at February 16, 2020 09:28 AM (Z/jzm)

50 Yesterday, grammie winger mentioned she was tired of all those romances by women writers that take up most of the Kindle Daily Deals. I agree. The one benefit is it allows me to go through the lists very quickly. But if these types of books are so popular, it makes me wonder just how many feminist fanatics are really out there. Or is it just a small number of VERY LOUD cvnts trying to irritate everyone else.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:28 AM (7EjX1)

51 14 It always amazes me how oh so smart Leftists are so certain that Trump doesn't read but that he CANNOT read.
Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 09:14 AM (ZfRYq)
________

Nothing new. The said the same things about both Bushes, Reagan, Ford, and Ike. Nixon was the only one they admitted had a brain. And we know that, at least, GWB, Ronnie, and Ike were pretty bright.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 16, 2020 09:29 AM (ZbwAu)

52 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at February 16, 2020 09:29 AM (1CjJc)

53 Ava Gardner's fireplace appears to have an octopus in it.


"My fireplace has an octopus." Sorta sounds like the MP "Hungarian Phrasebook" skit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy. #PutChinaOutofBusiness at February 16, 2020 09:29 AM (HaL55)

54 Meade gets little credit, but if one looks at the strategic situation, he did remarkably well.

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Especially considering that he had been CO for only a few days when the battle broke out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 09:29 AM (+y/Ru)

55 Ava when she was fresh. Hollywood spoiled her, maybe it was Sinatra, who knows? She ended up getting kicked out of Spain for public lewdness. She aged very well but died relatively young.

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 09:30 AM (sCVDB)

56 With "Vampires" all but done, looking forward to upping my reading game.

Just reached Minas Morgul which has such a wonderful description - the perfect counterpoint to Lothlorien - everything twisted, off, wrong.

Imlad Morgul is arguably the most supernatural setting in all of Lord of the Rings.

After LotR, I'll look at some of the books listed here and then contemplate Battle Officer Wolf II: Electric Boogaloo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

57 My mouse is acting up for some reason, but -

Sgt. Mom, if you want to e-mail me through my nic, I would be happy to lend you my copy of Ridin' the Rainbow. It's a good book, but not worth thirty dollars!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:30 AM (Ki5SV)

58 Ha ! I WON ! I WON !!

*what did I win ??
Posted by: runner

A date with Ava Gardner !

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 09:30 AM (arJlL)

59 Hi fellow bookies, thanks OM!

Still reading Conan, still writing grandfather. New news: anyone interested in young adult novels, Amazon recently listed "Peter Polo and the Snow Beast of Hunza" - written by a friend of mine, really good guy. If'n you're so inclined with young adults on your gift list, check it out.

Posted by: goatexchange at February 16, 2020 09:31 AM (HV7tu)

60 47 ... "So, since Monday is my birthday"

MP4, Happy Birthday tomorrow.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:32 AM (7EjX1)

61 49, mlii - OK

Posted by: kallisto at February 16, 2020 09:32 AM (sCVDB)

62 A pictorial trip report of a visit to sister stores The Archives and Curious Books in East Lansing Michigan yesterday:

https://stoatnet.org/el_books/

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 09:32 AM (t+qrx)

63 Sgt. Mom, if you want to e-mail me through my nic, I would be happy to lend you my copy of Ridin' the Rainbow. It's a good book, but not worth thirty dollars!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:30 AM (Ki5SV)

Abebooks has a copy for 3 dollars plush 3.95 shipping

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:33 AM (ONvIw)

64 "oh...I ...am going to donate to charity !"

Get a receipt!!!!

Posted by: Your Accountant at February 16, 2020 09:33 AM (tT0V4)

65 Reading through two mystery series by Garry Disher, set around the Melbourne area (unless plots take them elsewhere in Australia). On Port Villa Blues, which is in the series about a thief. About halfway through the book and give it thumbs up so far. Will read next a book in the other series about a detective inspector.

Posted by: Charlotte at February 16, 2020 09:34 AM (M2urV)

66 With the new remake of "Call of the Wild" I'm reminded that I've never read any of Jack London's novels. This is mildly embarrasing. Hell, it's been over 50 years since I read any of his short stories. My latest relationship with the Klondike area is from Robert Service poems. So yesterday I visited the used book store (always dangerous and time consuming) and scored a nice hardcover volume with "Call of the Wild", "White Fang", and "The Sea Wolf" plus a bunch of his short stories about the North. I'm hoping the novels will hold up to their reputation.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:34 AM (7EjX1)

67 Especially considering that he had been CO for only a few days when the battle broke out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 09:29 AM (+y/Ru)

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But he had been a member of it almost since the beginning. Wasn't he V Corps commander before his promotion?

So he knew who was sound and who wasn't. Reynolds with the vanguard, Hancock with the main body.

He also knew that he would only get stronger up north while Lee would only get weaker, so he was in no hurry to engage. The fear of Buford in The Killer Angels was unfounded - Meade showed he'd ignore any order from Washington he didn't like, as he did afterwards and at Mine Run.

There's a reason Grant kept him in operational control of the army.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (cfSRQ)

68 Hiya Bookfolk !

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (arJlL)

69 "MP4, Happy Birthday tomorrow."

You and J.J. have the same birthday?

What are the odds?


Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (tT0V4)

70 The German word ERKLAERUNGSNOT refers to a moment in which you have been caught in a situation requiring an urgent explanation, but cannot find the words to account for your actions. It literally means 'explanation poverty'.


Not it doesn't. "Not" means emergency, not poverty. Atemnot (Atem is breath) = I can't breathe. Notausgang (Ausgang = exit, actually it = out go because German is a ridiculously literal language) is Emergency Exit.

Noetig (not-ish) means necessary. There's an emergency so this thing is necessary.

So Erklaerungsnot means explanation emergency.

/pedant mode

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (gd9RK)

71 MPPP - no luck with getting your email as linky no worky, but yes, I'd love to borrow Riding the Rainbow. My email is clyahayes-at-gee-mail-dot-com. Thanks!

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (xnmPy)

72 "First published in 1973, Pearson's James Bond: The Authorized Biography of 007 has been OOP since the 1990s, although used copies are available."

I've got a first edition. My parents gave it to me for Christmas, as I was a Fleming/Bond-freak. Pearson is an excellent writer, and the way he stitched together the "life" of James Bond from the various strands and hints in Fleming's books is really ingenious.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:36 AM (H8QX8)

73 It always amazes me how oh so smart Leftists are so certain that Trump doesn't read but that he CANNOT read.

It's all part of the Deplorable mantra that worked so well for the left in 2016. We are stoopid.

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The leftist big publishers won't publish conservative books that would sell preferring to publish the same old liberal tripe then accuse us of not reading.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 09:37 AM (+y/Ru)

74 Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (gd9RK)

How is it pronounced?


As reading it with English eyes, it looks like-

*gibblegabble*SNOT.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2020 09:39 AM (z0XD8)

75 I like the painting of the two little girls, sisters I assume, sharing a book. It's a peaceful, gentle scene.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:40 AM (7EjX1)

76 We went through this same dummkopf syndrome with Reagan as with Trump. The Left's playbook never changes. Anybody who thinks inventively, boldly and irreverently has to be called stupid. They're so afraid of that.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:40 AM (H8QX8)

77 I think Edwin Coddinton gives George Meade the benefit of the doubt being thrown into the job only a couple days before Gettysburg.

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 09:40 AM (ZCEU2)

78 Nice Lieberry!

The Who Dis is Pete Bootedgeedge relaxing around the house before the hubby gets home and he has to give up the booty.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 09:41 AM (Z+IKu)

79 334 It's all part of the Deplorable mantra that worked so well for the left in 2016. We are stoopid.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 09:21 AM (ZLI7S)

Truly. I'd like to see Chuck Todd, Tater, AOC, Chris Wallace, Marie Harf, etc. etc., read even half of that list. Extra points if they understand what they read.

Posted by: April at February 16, 2020 09:41 AM (OX9vb)

80 Hmm, you're right, Sgt Mom, it doesn't work. I wonder why.

Anyway, did you see CNs comment at #63 about a 4 dollar copy from abebooks?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:41 AM (Ki5SV)

81 Those pants are fine. I would wear then to a barbeque in the Master's back yard.

Posted by: Torgo at February 16, 2020 09:41 AM (Tnijr)

82 That's a great idea to explore the books Trump reads or writes!

I had no idea what makes the man tick, until he became president and Rush Limbaugh started explaining him to me.

Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2020 09:41 AM (87gB3)

83 >>The leftist big publishers won't publish conservative books that would sell preferring to publish the same old liberal tripe then accuse us of not reading.

Spend some time perusing the comments section on leftwing blogs. Most of them literally have no idea how things work. They may read but it's all leftwing tropes, no historical or practical knowledge of pretty much anything. It was a hoot watching them celebrate Trump being impeached by the House believing it removed him from office.

As with everything else, leftists are guilty of what they accuse others of being. It's what allows them to ignore reality.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 09:42 AM (ZLI7S)

84 Torgo at 81 - ISWYDT

Posted by: PabloD at February 16, 2020 09:43 AM (a0kj6)

85 I'm reminded that I've never read any of Jack London's novels.

I read Call of the Wild and White Fang as an adult and enjoyed them. I had thought of them as kids' books and not read them as a kid.

As a kid I read the kid version of them, a series about an Irish Setter named Red. Big Red, Outlaw Red. Jim Kjellgard. I never hear anyone talk about them but they were my faves at one point.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:43 AM (gd9RK)

86 (Looks around......)

Where's Eris ?

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 09:45 AM (arJlL)

87 After the mention of "From the Depths and other strange tales of the sea" last week I had to get a copy which arrived yesterday. These aren't the usual ones like the Mary Celeste. These kind of stories always appealed to me since I grew up on an island and saw the Atlantic in all its various moods. JackStraw, living on the adjacent island, would understand.

Part of the appeal of these stories is they do a good job setting the atmosphere, making it easy to become absorbed into the tale. The ability of a piece to do that is increasingly important to my enjoyment. Charles Dickens, Melville, Haggard, Tolkien and others are masters at this. More recently, the O'Brian sea novels and Cornwell adventure books do this so well. Slam, bang action with little context was fine when I was a kid. Maybe I finally grew up a bit.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:45 AM (7EjX1)

88 A long time ago there was a bookstore in E.L called Jocundry's. I remember enjoying the place a lot. Anyway, I don't think it survived the death of its owner in that grisly plane crash, Flight 191.

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:45 AM (ONvIw)

89 Where's Eris ?
Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 09:45 AM (arJlL)


*slowly looks up towards ceiling air ducts*

Posted by: hogmartin at February 16, 2020 09:46 AM (t+qrx)

90 Where's Eris ?


Last we saw her yesterday she was heading out to a used book store with another Moron. We may need Malamutes and sleds to mount an expedition.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:46 AM (gd9RK)

91 booken morgen horden!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 09:46 AM (G546f)

92 Last week OM mentioned a book about HMS Thunder Child from HG Wells The War of the Worlds. It got me thinking about the late 70s double LP the Musical Version of The War of the Worlds by Jeff Wayne (Northernlurker and Coregis mentioned it too). A great album to veg out to.

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Available on Pandora. A somewhat similar album is The History of the Peloponnesian War by Athens v. Sparta. It's sort of a pop/rock retelling of the war.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 09:47 AM (+y/Ru)

93 Jim Kjellgard. I never hear anyone talk about them but they were my faves at one point.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:43 AM (gd9RK)

Oh, yes.

James Street wrote some fine short stories on dogs. Nicholas Kalishnikov's "Toyon" is an underappreciated gem.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:47 AM (H8QX8)

94 Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:10 AM

Good trick.

Posted by: mindful webworker
Grenwich Meantime
at February 16, 2020 09:47 AM (7OF+y)

95 They called me Googly-Eyes!

Posted by: Adam Schiff at February 16, 2020 09:47 AM (wc1vX)

96 >>Part of the appeal of these stories is they do a good job setting the atmosphere, making it easy to become absorbed into the tale. The ability of a piece to do that is increasingly important to my enjoyment. Charles Dickens, Melville, Haggard, Tolkien and others are masters at this. More recently, the O'Brian sea novels and Cornwell adventure books do this so well. Slam, bang action with little context was fine when I was a kid. Maybe I finally grew up a bit.

I've read the O'Brian series a couple times. His knowledge of history, maritime history in particular, along with a deep understanding of ships and how they really work made the books even more enjoyable.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 09:49 AM (ZLI7S)

97 Finally in town and at home for a Book Thread! I've been enjoying John van Stry's Portals of Infinity series. Here's the blurb:

William is just your typical engineer fresh out of college with a stressful job, a boring life, and not a lot of prospects of anything better in the future.

Until one weekend while hiking in the woods he stumbles across a portal to another time, or perhaps another place. The more he investigates this new world the more he realizes that it may just be able to offer him a lot more than the one he's been living in.

However, there are forces at work beyond anything that Will has ever come across before and the local Goddess seems to have taken a liking to him. Will may soon find himself getting an offer and cannot afford to refuse.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at February 16, 2020 09:49 AM (FXjhj)

98 The last time I saw pants like those, they were on an Oompa-Loompa.
Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:12 AM (7EjX1)

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Last time I saw pants like that, it was MC Hammer's "Can't Touch This."

Posted by: Otters United! at February 16, 2020 09:50 AM (WEBkv)

99 How you can tell I've had experience in property maintenance: I look at the library pic and think

Guy who designed that elaborate arch in the library:
"That looks great!"

Gal Guy Person who has to dust said arch:
"Uhhnnnngggg..."

Posted by: mindful webworker
Grenwich Meantime
at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (7OF+y)

100 Mornin' book fags.

I'd never read Little Women, so I checked it out from the library.

It's so good! No wonder it's a perennial classic. It's warm and sentimental and endearing, but I had no idea it was so funny. Alcott has so many wry observations about her characters.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (Dc2NZ)

101 JTB, have you ever read any Edward Rowe Snow?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (Ki5SV)

102 88
A long time ago there was a bookstore in E.L called Jocundry's. I
remember enjoying the place a lot. Anyway, I don't think it survived the
death of its owner in that grisly plane crash, Flight 191.

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 09:45 AM (ONvIw)

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I remember it with great fondness. Still have one of their bookmarks.

Not sure about the plane crash, but Barnes and Noble came on strong with a major store out in Okemos. Jocundry's then built a larger store next to the Peanut Barrel (you'll remember it as a parking lot). The recession of 1990 hit at the worst time and the store closed, reopened as Grand River Books but couldn't make a go.

Locals now give directions regarding where Jocundry's used to be before it moved and closed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (cfSRQ)

103
Never mind the goofy pantaloons, what about those spiked sandals? Combined beach and riot wear!

Of course, you can't kick very well wearing those pants!

Posted by: mindful webworker
what the pierced chimp is wearing
at February 16, 2020 09:53 AM (7OF+y)

104 81 Those pants are fine. I would wear then to a barbeque in the Master's back yard.
Posted by: Torgo at February 16, 2020 09:41 AM (Tnijr)
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The Master would approve!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2qu38Ipt4I

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 09:53 AM (Dc2NZ)

105 Has anybody been to Mrs. Dalloway's, the book store in Berkeley?

My sister in law owns and operates it. She's grown it from a small boutique to one of most popular book stores in the Bay Area. Our politics don't align, but she's a terrific and sweet gal.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:55 AM (H8QX8)

106 While out in California I finished The Gift by Nabokov. Although I was out of my natural reading environment up in my attic in front of the stereo, I found this an overly difficult read where he tried to do too much and was too clever by half. I mean it's as dense as Ulysses with continual internal conundrums but at some point it's just too much drudgery for what I consider enjoyable. Too bad because there's some beautiful writing in spots but that a publisher refused to include one of the chapters initially should have been a heads up to Vlad that he'd spent a lot of time producing a turd. It was probably released in full after he'd gained more international fame with his subsequent US books that publishers, who can be as whorish as anyone, said let's cash in on producing a COMPLETE VERSION. Maybe a reread would improve my opinion but, if that happens at all it will be way down the road.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2020 09:55 AM (y7DUB)

107 74
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:35 AM (gd9RK)



How is it pronounced?





As reading it with English eyes, it looks like-



*gibblegabble*SNOT.





Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2020 09:39 AM (z0XD

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In German, vowels can have only one sound. That's why they have the umlaut, to give them another sound. Two vowels together can combine for a sound, but that is always consistent.

My German vocabulary is garbage now, but I can read it like a pro. It's wonderfully consistent.

the suffix "-not" is pronounced as "note" because all Os in German are long.

So you would say that word "air-clare-ungs-note."

And it's interesting that we use the word "note" to mean some random jottings, but also as a warning such as "EDITORS NOTE:"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)

108 I'm surprised how much it doesn't look like who it actually is.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at February 16, 2020 09:15 AM (AWstk)


In which case it really doesn't look like Humphrey Bogart.

I am reading O'Brien's The Mauritius Command.

I did get new reading glasses which are very nice, but I still don't have a lot of reading time.

I did poke my nose at a collection of Eric Frank Russell's short stories because I wanted to re-read Diablologic. Got distracted by another short story . . . Wound up having to run because I forgot what time it is.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 09:56 AM (6rS3m)

109 101 ... "have you ever read any Edward Rowe Snow?"

MP4, The name is familiar but I can't recall any specific reading. I'll have to check the shelves. They sound ike fun. Thanks.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:56 AM (7EjX1)

110 The hardest thing about German is the gender. Every noun has a gender and in my advancing age, I've lost track.

No native speaker would get that wrong, and I lack the patience to do the vocab drills to relearn everything.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:57 AM (cfSRQ)

111 good morning, all.

Well, after a movie recommendation, "Citizen X," I decided to get the book the movie is based on, "The Killer Department."

in case anyone is interested, the book and movie are about a serial killer that operated in the Soviet Union from the mid-eighties to the mid-nineties? I believe.

What has struck me, most, though, is the absolute poverty in which Russians lived back then. (I say lived because I don't know much about the current circumstances of the average Russian)

And by poverty, I mean poverty that appears, in many ways, to be worse than the Great Depression in the US.

The serial killer himself isn't what I would call unique, other than it happened in Russia and it took a long time to catch him.

Well worth reading.

Posted by: Otters United! at February 16, 2020 09:58 AM (WEBkv)

112 "Mao: The Unknown Story"

I read that book. I was finishing it while dining alone in a Chinese restaurant when the waiter noticed the title and asked if he could read it when I was done. His family fled China in the 50s, became christians and hated Mao. I finished it a day later, stopped by the restaurant and give it to him as a gift.


He and Stalin had a lot in common. Power hungry sociopaths.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at February 16, 2020 09:59 AM (gocCp)

113 /crud, off stale and moldy otter sock.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 10:00 AM (WEBkv)

114 Locals now give directions regarding where Jocundry's used to be before it moved and closed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (cfSRQ)

John and Madra were close "friends of a friend", as it were. There was no way she was going to be able to maintain the store and several other key employees died on the crash as well. I suspect it was sold and changed a lot before it went out.

Anyway, our close friend was an English/Theater prof and we went to Jocundry's with him after Saturday lunches out. Nice times.

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 10:00 AM (ONvIw)

115 Re: dog books, there is also a children's book called "Silver Chief, Dog of the North." Basically a knockoff of London's "White Fang." My father's favorite book.

Posted by: Dr Alice at February 16, 2020 10:00 AM (oW/8k)

116 I'd never read Little Women, so I checked it out from the library.

It's so good! No wonder it's a perennial classic. It's warm and sentimental and endearing, but I had no idea it was so funny. Alcott has so many wry observations about her characters.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 09:51 AM (Dc2NZ)


The only reason I never read that was the time it would require to kick everyone's ass who called me a homo for doing so.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2020 10:00 AM (y7DUB)

117 "his (Mao's) intimate and intricate relationship with Stalin went back to the
1920s, ultimately bringing him to power; he welcomed Japanese occupation
of much of China; and he schemed, poisoned, and blackmailed to get his
way"

Stalin starved ten million to death in Ukraine, Mao did 'better' in China (seventy million). The old Soviets led the way in infiltrating the USA (e.g. Duranty's Pulitzer for covering up Ukraine genocide), and China also has leverage over our media.

imo the biggest threat to USA Liberty is the foreign infiltration (cartels from Mexico, China, Middle East, Russia and DeepState acting as its own country). They use bribery and threat to control our own government (and much of corporate America) and place their enforcer gangs in every major city. Our DeepState (as Mao did with Japan) invites them inside our house, to help destroy our sovereignty and liberty.


Obama loved Mao ... and was a great stooge for China, helping control the narrative ... on China's (communism's) behalf. We hope Trump/Pompeo are restructuring our alliances ... (Pompeo was just in Senegal, mentioning the lure of getting into relationships with snake China .. but Obama drew huge crowds there, Pompeo mostly ignored). An open internet helps, but the censors are hard at work.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 10:01 AM (Cus5s)

118 Kinda sorta friends with a guy who is a NYT bestselling fiction writer.

One time he let me pre-read one of his novels. I told him the female lead was not believable and neither was the romantic involvement.

He said clear in his answer, women buy 60% of books and they wanted to read about romances. So his military murder mystery had a female lead with romantic involvement.

He was quite mercenary about it.

Anyway, this is why Kindle book deals are romances. That's who buys book and what books they buy.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 10:02 AM (ZfRYq)

119 >>The only reason I never read that was the time it would require to kick everyone's ass who called me a homo for doing so.

You can let your feminine side out here. This is a safe space where nobody will get on your case.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 10:02 AM (ZLI7S)

120 The hardest thing about German is the gender. Every noun has a gender and in my advancing age, I've lost track.

No native speaker would get that wrong, and I lack the patience to do the vocab drills to relearn everything.

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Well, they've probably have transgender nouns now anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:03 AM (+y/Ru)

121 @111 Otter

They made a movie about that. It was well done.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at February 16, 2020 10:03 AM (gocCp)

122 That's Ava

reading "how to do your own tax return" by Al Capone

Posted by: REDACTED at February 16, 2020 10:03 AM (rpxSz)

123 119
>>The only reason I never read that was the time it would require
to kick everyone's ass who called me a homo for doing so.



You can let your feminine side out here. This is a safe space where nobody will get on your case.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 16, 2020 10:02 AM (ZLI7S)

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That's why I come here!

Posted by: Corey Booker at February 16, 2020 10:04 AM (cfSRQ)

124 Well, it's time for me to get off the "fainting couch", wipe the ashes out of my hair and get a few things done before lunch.

I'll check back later.

Hope the 'ette looking for Ridin' the Rainbow tried Abebooks. Amazon is not the only game in town.

Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 10:04 AM (ONvIw)

125 I came across a famous book I have never heard of before

The Voynich Manuscript

dating from the 15th century, experts have been trying to decode its mysterious script since the 1900s

its filled with colorful drawings of plants, symbols, amd naked women

here is a scan of the entire manuscript

https://archive.org/details/TheVoynichManuscript

my personal opinion is that it is a plant reference, with some either magical or scientific theories about plant uses or botanical propagation

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:04 AM (G546f)

126 Well, they've probably have transgender nouns now anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:03 AM (+y/Ru)

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I doubt it.

Germans are real sticklers for certain things.

There's a reason people refer to "grammar Nazis."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:05 AM (cfSRQ)

127 I loved our jaunt to The Archives and Curious Books. The Archives was like your slightly crazy genius grand-uncle's personal library -- treasures and shite just stacked everywhere. The proprietor is getting ready for a big purge of material to be sold outside the shop.

Curious Books has some of the grandest displays of pulp sci fi, westerns, detective, and romance I've ever seen, and in excellent condition. Of course I indulged my pulp SF sweet tooth! I also nabbed a couple Tom Swift and His Atomic [Device] thrillers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

128 Got distracted by another short story . . . Wound up having to run because I forgot what time it is.
Posted by: Kindltot

"I don't wear a watch.

I tell time by the sun"

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 10:05 AM (arJlL)

129 76 We went through this same dummkopf syndrome with Reagan as with Trump. The Left's playbook never changes. Anybody who thinks inventively, boldly and irreverently has to be called stupid. They're so afraid of that.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 09:40 AM (H8QX


I believe Newt Gingrich is an exception. I remember him in his heyday and even though the liberals hated him bigly, I don't recall them ever calling him stupid. Evil, yes, but not dumb.

And George W. Bush was both (a) a criminal mastermind and (b) dumb as a rock. At the same time. Later iterations of left-wing hate realized how foolish this obvious contradiction made them look, so they revised (a) to Dick Cheney, with Chimpy McBushitler as the front man.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 16, 2020 10:07 AM (AWstk)

130 Thanks, MPPP - I looked at Abe Books - the $4 copy is already gone. They have three for $30. PM and we'll work out the address and all.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at February 16, 2020 10:07 AM (xnmPy)

131 I assume Mao's philosophy was based more on evil Chinese emperor than Communist dictator.

The Com Dynasty

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:08 AM (2DOZq)

132 127
I loved our jaunt to The Archives and Curious Books. The Archives was
like your slightly crazy genius grand-uncle's personal library --
treasures and shite just stacked everywhere. The proprietor is getting
ready for a big purge of material to be sold outside the shop.



Curious Books has some of the grandest displays of pulp sci fi,
westerns, detective, and romance I've ever seen, and in excellent
condition. Of course I indulged my pulp SF sweet tooth! I also nabbed a
couple Tom Swift and His Atomic [Device] thrillers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

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I think I'll make a trip downtown on Monday then.

I'm sure there are some editions of Waugh that I need.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:08 AM (cfSRQ)

133 I read "Master of the World" by Jules Verne, based on a reference in the League of Extraordinary Gentleman graphic novels. Its very late in Verne's career and while the man is an amazingly creative guy who was a pioneer in science fiction, this is not a good book. Its a very short story about a simple subject incredibly padded and dully written.

The protagonist does little more than narrate events like a camera, the bad guy isn't really very bad, and the amazing technology that makes him the "master of the world" is a vehicle that goes really fast and doesn't run out of fuel, able to fly, submerge in water, run on land, and act as a boat.

I was very disappointed and you would be too, not recommended.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 10:08 AM (KZzsI)

134 The only reason I never read that was the time it would require to kick everyone's ass who called me a homo for doing so.
Posted by: Captain Hate at February 16, 2020 10:00 AM (y7DUB)
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Challenge them in The Octagon! Beat them with a hardbound copy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:09 AM (Dc2NZ)

135 And George W. Bush was both (a) a criminal mastermind and (b) dumb as a rock. At the same time. Later iterations of left-wing hate realized how foolish they looked, so they changed (a) to Dick Cheney, with Chimpy McBushitler as the front man.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at February 16, 2020 10:07 AM (AWstk)

But that was also a contradiction to their earlier profile of Cheney. He was previously known as a moderate Republican that would work with the Dems.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:10 AM (2DOZq)

136 He said clear in his answer, women buy 60% of books and they wanted to read about romances. So his military murder mystery had a female lead with romantic involvement.

There is something to that. I write the books I am interested in and the story I have to tell, but its not the story most book buyers are desperate to read. Only one of them has any true romance in it, and no female protagonists. Well the last one the woman is the axle around which the whole story rotates but she's not the main character.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 10:10 AM (KZzsI)

137 OK, folks, think I'll make a second cup of tea and settle down with my new books. Hope you all have a wonderful day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 16, 2020 10:11 AM (Ki5SV)

138 131
I assume Mao's philosophy was based more on evil Chinese emperor than Communist dictator.



The Com Dynasty

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:08 AM (2DOZq)

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I've seen expats writing that the old Chinese Confucian beliefs have essentially been eradicated in all but the most remote parts of China. They live on in the West through the expat community and also the Taiwan exiles.

But on the mainland? Gone.

In its place is an atheistic will-to-power based on getting mine and screwing everyone else. That's why they paint toys with lead paint, build schools that collapse and introduce poisonous filler into baby formula.

They literally don't care about anything than getting rich.

And avoiding the camps. So loyalty > competence.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

139 Speaking of foreign languages, I learned something interesting about Latin. We use the word uncle to describe our mother's brother and our father's brother. The Roman had not only different words but different roles in the family. Mother's brother was avunculus and was the friendly, happy go lucky friend to the children. Father's brother was patruus, and was the family drill instructor keeping the kids on the straight and narrow. So if both your brother and your sister had children, you would be the drill instructor to one family and Good Time Charlie to the other.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 16, 2020 10:11 AM (+y/Ru)

140 Eugenics will certainly "work" with humans - the problem from the utilitarian pov is that we would end up like overbred canine breeds and probably extinctify ourselves

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:12 AM (G546f)

141 Vic: I once read a book by L. E. Modessit (I think) that had a premise that the Norse gods were alien time travellers who policed the timeline and kept history secure; the viewpoint character was Loki.

Does any of this sound familiar?

Did he come out with a sequel to it?

Was it any good?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 10:12 AM (dwojT)

142 108
I am reading O'Brien's The Mauritius Command.
.......

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 09:56 AM (6rS3m)
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IMO, the best in the series. It is also VERY accurate in the account of the battle.

I'm a big O'Brian fan, but I will warn that there is one point on which he is not entirely accurate, which is gunnery. Rapid fire and accuracy were incompatible. (He also - like Forrester - trusts Cochrane too much. There is really no other source for "never mind maneuvers, just go straight at them." And it doesn't comport with Nelson's actual record.)

Which doesn't alter my love of the Aubread at all.

BTW, my wife tells me that Paul Betany (Maturin) is married to Jennifer Connolly. She is a close fit to Diana Villiers, Maturin's wife.

Posted by: Eeyore at February 16, 2020 10:13 AM (ZbwAu)

143 Vincent Price was Robur in the Master of the World movie. The movie was probably better than the book.

Posted by: freaked at February 16, 2020 10:13 AM (Tnijr)

144 I guess that I've gotten too cynical.

I clicked over to Amazon to read the

"The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse" sample: all excited to check out the next "Winnie the Pooh" or "Wind in the Willows".

Only TBTMTFaTH appears to be this year's "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" genetically crossed with the "Love is..." single panel comic strip.

Or a tremendously, syrupy and sappy Calvin and Hobbes.

The "when I grow up I want to be kind" thing had my eyes rolling so hard, I had to grab my hockey stick to corral them back into my skull.

That is exactly the kind of thing that an adult would put into a fictional child's mouth that a real-life child would never ever say.


The genius of "Winnie the Pooh" or "Wind in the Willows" is that while whimsical and warm-hearted real danger and real problems exist. These are handled in a humorous or whimsical way and more importantly in a way that a child might handle them.

Eh. Well, everyone likes something different.

I really like the Japanese sumi art inspired drawings.

Too bad they're not attached to worthy words.


Since, I haven't read the entire book, I'm willing to be wrong.

But, that sample....holy cow!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2020 10:13 AM (z0XD8)

145 140
Eugenics will certainly "work" with humans - the problem from the
utilitarian pov is that we would end up like overbred canine breeds and
probably extinctify ourselves





Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:12 AM (G546f)

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The central conceit of eugenics is that the people pushing it never consider that *they* might be the ones sterilized and put to sleep.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:14 AM (cfSRQ)

146 Anyone else read Stephen Hunter's Dirty White Boys? I've read a lot of his books but just read this one which is one of his older ones. Little different for him but I really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:16 AM (2DOZq)

147 Bush was so stupid, he flew fighter jets. Forbidden history.

Posted by: klaftern at February 16, 2020 10:16 AM (RuIsu)

148 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

congrats on finishing the new vampire book!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:16 AM (G546f)

149 Stephen Hunter....

Think I read Dirty White Boys some years ago.

ut no real memory fit.

I thought Point of Impact was an absolutely outstanding novel.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 10:18 AM (tT0V4)

150 131
I assume Mao's philosophy was based more on evil Chinese emperor than Communist dictator.

The Com Dynasty

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth


IF I remember rightly Marx actually looked to China and the early "Year Zero" parts of all the revolutions as an active model for his Way Things Should Be, so you run into a chicken-and-the-egg sort of thing there.

I agree with what A. H. Lloyd said about confucianism, but I'd extend it to their other belief systems like buddhism and taoism as well: they only tolerate religion as being that religion's branding wrapped around maoist propaganda, which these days is all about power/money conjugate for the party and the connected.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 10:20 AM (dwojT)

151 138
I've seen expats writing that the old Chinese Confucian beliefs have essentially been eradicated in all but the most remote parts of China. They live on in the West through the expat community and also the Taiwan exiles.

But on the mainland? Gone.

........
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)
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That's what always creeped me out about Mao, above all the others. Even Stalin didn't try to entirely eradicate Russian culture. But that was exactly what Mao did. I saw this in the late 60s, and it always amazed me how many of my contemporaries didn't.

I don't know of any other country that simply killed it's own soul. Not conquered from outside, but all by themselves. (Though the Western left is trying to do the same.)

Posted by: Eeyore at February 16, 2020 10:21 AM (ZbwAu)

152 141
Vic: I once read a book by L. E. Modessit (I think) that had a premise
that the Norse gods were alien time travellers who policed the timeline
and kept history secure; the viewpoint character was Loki.



Does any of this sound familiar?



Did he come out with a sequel to it?



Was it any good?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 10:12 AM (dwojT)


I have read three series by him but I don't remember that one.

Posted by: Vic at February 16, 2020 10:21 AM (mpXpK)

153 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)

Thanks.

I never can quite figure out German pronunciation.

Now, I can use it and sound all (millimeter-deep) brainy.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2020 10:22 AM (z0XD8)

154 Check out the reading list at Pulp Librarian:

https://twitter.com/PulpLibrarian

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at February 16, 2020 10:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

155 "I assume Mao's philosophy was based more on evil Chinese emperor than Communist dictator."

Belief in "The State", or in "The Emperor" ... both count on propaganda of some Utopian Central Power that has the interests of all the people at heart. Your personal suffering is for the greater good.


The Hong Kong enlightenment period has challenged that, and Xi wants to keep that under control. But the internet is a problem for them ... that doctor that revealed the virus, was forced to sign a confession he had lied, now is a martyr for the cause of "freedom".


But we can't lock up our own coup plotters, so justice weeps here as well.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 10:23 AM (Cus5s)

156 I thought Point of Impact was an absolutely outstanding novel.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 10:18 AM (tT0V4)

Yes that's probably his best. Might have been his first book? I liked Hot Springs a lot too. The Swaggers were great protagonists.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:23 AM (2DOZq)

157 They literally don't care about anything than getting rich.
And avoiding the camps. So loyalty > competence.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

Yup.....The ChiComs and the Chinee are like one big mafia family.

You either pay or get paid. Confucius got the Morrie Kessler treatment a long time ago.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 10:23 AM (Z+IKu)

158 I'm.... not getting through the post very quickly today.

Posterior Osculators - a hasty-baked lamerick webwork

I sought for plain information,
Facts without adulteration.
But all media minions
Had naught but opinions,
Posterior osculations!

Hm. Needs some work to foreshadow the subplot more in the first chapter, don't you think? heh

I'd struggle for a day to improve it; Muldoon would do a better riff without breathing hard.

Posted by: mindful webworker
O'muse bein' my muse 2day
at February 16, 2020 10:23 AM (7OF+y)

159 Nabokov preLolita is full of clunkers. King,Queen, Knave, Invitation to a Beheading and Pnin are worth reading.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at February 16, 2020 10:23 AM (4vNgL)

160 Amazon is not the only game in town.
Posted by: CN at February 16, 2020 10:04 AM (ONvIw)


Abebooks was purchased by Amazon in 2008. They, like Google and Apple are buying up all their competitors.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at February 16, 2020 10:25 AM (ClCgE)

161 I finished reading Wolf Pack by C.J. Box.

Excellent book, excellent series by an excellent author.

Posted by: JT at February 16, 2020 10:26 AM (arJlL)

162 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 10:12 AM (dwojT)

The Timegod series, 3 books

never read so I dunno,sound cool though

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:27 AM (G546f)

163 As a kid I read the kid version of them, a series
about an Irish Setter named Red. Big Red, Outlaw Red. Jim Kjellgard. I
never hear anyone talk about them but they were my faves at one point.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 16, 2020 09:43 AM (gd9RK)


Kjellgard and Walt Morey were some of my favorite authors at one time.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 10:27 AM (6rS3m)

164
I clicked over to Amazon to read the

"The Boy, The Mole, The Fox and The Horse" sample: all excited to check out the next "Winnie the Pooh" or "Wind in the Willows".

Only TBTMTFaTH appears to be this year's "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" genetically crossed with the "Love is..." single panel comic strip.

Or a tremendously, syrupy and sappy Calvin and Hobbes.



The 'art' is headache-inducing, as well.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 16, 2020 10:27 AM (oVJmc)

165
But we can't lock up our own coup plotters, so justice weeps here as well.


Posted by: illiniwek at February 16, 2020 10:23 AM (Cus5s)

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I'm not going to get into that here, because I'm tired of talking about it. Seems like it's the only topic we discuss.

Instead, I will simply point out that all the prosecutions in the world don't mean jack if your judges are crooked. Trump and Cocaine Mitch are doing tremendous work that no one really notices. They will notice it soon enough, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)

166 100 ... Eris,
Glad you had fun at the book stores yesterday. I just ordered a Kindle "Little Women" after the way you enjoyed it. I probably wouldn't have got a copy when younger. But I am now old enough, big enough, mean enough, and sufficiently well armed that no one is likely to laugh at me about the book.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 10:28 AM (7EjX1)

167 They, like Google and Apple are buying up all their competitors.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at February 16, 2020 10:25 AM (ClCgE)

heard on the radio yesterday that the gubmint is actually investigating whether the way tech giants buy up small competitors falls under breaking da rulez

Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:29 AM (G546f)

168 That's what always creeped me out about Mao, above all the others. Even Stalin didn't try to entirely eradicate Russian culture. But that was exactly what Mao did. I saw this in the late 60s, and it always amazed me how many of my contemporaries didn't.

I don't know of any other country that simply killed it's own soul. Not conquered from outside, but all by themselves. (Though the Western left is trying to do the same.)
Posted by: Eeyore


Well, they had a push from outside, remember Stalin put Mao in power...

And the Soviets were put in power by the Germans at the end of WW1 because it was easier than occupying the place. It was a way of controlling Russia and cutting it down to size and making them think it was their idea.

Evaluate what happened in China post 1948 in that light...

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Channeling Vir, and Waving, Like This.... at February 16, 2020 10:29 AM (dwojT)

169 Eugenics will certainly "work" with humans - the problem from the
utilitarian pov is that we would end up like overbred canine breeds and
probably extinctify ourselves





Posted by: vmom 2020 at February 16, 2020 10:12 AM (G546f)

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The central conceit of eugenics is that the people pushing it never consider that *they* might be the ones sterilized and put to sleep.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:14 AM (cfSRQ)



IIRC, the Nazis actually did some eugenic breeding to produce "perfect Aryans".

But, the kiddos they produced in the end were all kinda nutty and failures at life.

Whether this was nature or nurture or a combo of both I have no idea.

But, with the fall of Nazi Germany, etc, and the way these kids might've been handled/mishandled, I'm leaning toward nurture. But, who knows?

No doubt we'll be seeing some of that from China in a few years.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 16, 2020 10:29 AM (z0XD8)

170 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 16, 2020 10:27 AM (cfSRQ

The perpetual #TwoWeeks .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 10:29 AM (2DOZq)

171 People have already said it but I'll add: who dis is the worst picture ever taken of Ava Gardner.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 16, 2020 10:30 AM (COzlW)

172 Boys from Brazil