Polls: Support for Impeachment Dropping, Trump Gains on His Democrat Opponents, Now Leading (Within the Margin of Error) Three of the Four Top Democrat Challengers

A Morning Consult poll from a couple of days ago found that opposition to impeachment had jumped ten points.

Opposition by independents to the House’s ongoing impeachment inquiry jumped 10 percentage points in the last week, according to a Politico–Morning Consult poll released Tuesday.

The poll showed 47 percent of independents opposed the inquiry, compared to 37 percent last week. Meanwhile support for the inquiry by independents fell 7 points to 40 percent.

Support for the inquiry among all respondents fell 2 points to 48 percent, while opposition to it rose 3 points to 45 percent.

Now comes an Emmerson poll, confirming these basic findings, and showing Trump ahead of three of the four top Democrat candidates, and trailing only one -- Sanders, oddly enough -- by 1%.

Pop-Pop Biden seems like a paper tiger.



If you can't read that:

HUGE --> Another poll finds impeachment backfiring.

* Trump approval "bounced" 5 points to 48% (was 43% in October)

* Support for impeachment drops 5 points.

* A SEISMIC 30-point swing among independents, who now OPPOSE impeachment by 15 points.

Further details:


A new Emerson poll finds President Trump’s approval has increased in the last month with 48% approval and 47% disapproval, a bounce from 43% approval in the last Emerson National poll in October. Support for impeachment has flipped since October from 48% support with 44% opposing to now 45% opposed and 43% in support. The biggest swing is among Independents, who oppose impeachment now 49% to 34%, which is a reversal from October where they supported impeachment 48% to 39%.


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The president’s support in the Republican primary increased this month to 93% against primary challengers Bill Weld and Joe Walsh. Trump's head to head matchups in the General Election against the top Democratic candidates have also tightened since October, now trailing Sanders by 1 point and leading his other three potential opponents.

I assume Trump is actually beating Warren but both of their numbers get rounded down or up to 50%. Obviously, these aren't big leads.

BTW, there's an impeachment thread below, if you want a thread specifically for discussion about the fake impeachment hearings.



Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:08 PM




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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:08 PM (q80AH)

2 Trump to Dems: Just keep talking.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:08 PM (LnUoW)

3 Enstompening today.

Posted by: Bert G at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (Y+/QX)

4 Thir

Posted by: the other epstein guard at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (Dh1wo)

5 Tonight or tomorrow Am, some Troll will unveil a poll that shows it is gonna be an early night for PDT.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (cEsBM)

6 Someone call Al Franken. We're going to need his Buick.

Posted by: The DNC at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (uGHnY)

7 Biden: Hunter gimme your viagra, my polls are dropping.

Posted by: henry at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (JMDly)

8
10 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

9 Do the Dems want to win the White House in 2020, or are they just trying to damage Trump, so when he wins, he won't be able to do anything?

I'm pretty sure as of right now, they don't believe they will win. Looking at it from that perspective, their actions today seem fairly logical.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (hku12)

10 Which is why the Democrats will hold a quick vote before Christmas. By next fall, the dimwit LIV's will have forgotten.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (O7MnT)

11 Thir
Posted by: the other epstein guard at November 21, 2019 02:09 PM (Dh1wo)

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Is that some Gender Confused Nordic God???

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

12 And that's with the criminal media fully aboard the coup train.
The media must be be going crazy over how ineffective they've become.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (Uu+Jp)

13 Are we done now Dems?

Posted by: The Chicken at November 21, 2019 02:11 PM (sjdRT)

14 Also, this *is* surprising:

The GOPe isn't stepping on its dick, putting up Mittens or other RINOs for bipartisan concern.

I mean, what are the odds that the GOP is learning some discipline?

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:11 PM (LnUoW)

15 So look, I know we don't do "math" on this Smart MilBlog(tm), but if 40% of independents oppose the Impeachment inquiry, and assuming that support for the inquiry has to be pretty-damn close to 0% among Republicans...

... then how fucking badly do you have to skew the poll with Democrats to get to an overall 48% support for the Inquiry among "all respondents"?

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:11 PM (77WPm)

16 Angry bureaucrats are not the sympathetic witnesses that the Democrats believed they were.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (hLRSq)

17 DAMMIT!!!

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (M0u+N)

18 They need a Hawaiian judge to rule that Trump cannot be on the 2020 ballot.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (YslsA)

19 Correction to me @15 - if 47% of independents oppose the Impeachment inquiry...

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:12 PM (77WPm)

20
Any of our resident hair on fire crowd care to comment?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 02:13 PM (pNxlR)

21 GAINZZZZZZ!

Posted by: Ted Striker's Polka Hits at November 21, 2019 02:13 PM (7nbjV)

22 For myself, I do not pay attention to the polls themselves but wonder what the results being reported are supposed to do to shape public opinion. Simply: how does reporting that Trump is closing the gap in battleground states against the dem contenders actually serve to elect a democrat- which is what I believe the purpose of all reporting of polls is supposed to do.

May be a bit tinfoil hat, but I think polls are only used to shape public opinion- not report on it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:13 PM (ycWCI)

23 13
Are we done now Dems?


Posted by: The Chicken at November 21, 2019 02:11 PM (sjdRT)

Nope

Posted by: Monkey doing vile things to a football at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (N39Ws)

24 10 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

Thought xhe got banned

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (77WPm)

25 I travel in a wide range of circles and nobody is talking about impeachment. Not even the hard core Dems.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (zkFz1)

26 This has been bad but I'm glad I wasn't the Russia Collusion Chicken.

Posted by: The Impeachment Chicken at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (sjdRT)

27 Who the hell are half this field? Or are they just trying to get people to know their names for some other later campaign?
Seems a waste of time and money

Posted by: random lurker commenter at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (48RE5)

28 boobehs.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (1CjJc)

29 The wheels are closing in!

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (GXoKW)

30 ... then how fucking badly do you have to skew the poll with Democrats to get to an overall 48% support for the Inquiry among "all respondents"?
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0% R
40% I
60% D

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (cvGi5)

31 ... then how fucking badly do you have to skew the poll with Democrats to get to an overall 48% support for the Inquiry among "all respondents"?
Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:11 PM (77WPm)

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Which is why on election night that Maddow fellow will again lecture his viewers of how there is NO way Trump can win the Electoral College, then rant rave cry and bawl when Trump does indeed win the Electoral College.

Again.

AND..... garners the popular vote.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (8XRCm)

32 I think it is pretty clear by now that a majority of Americans, even LIV, know that Biden was soliciting and receiving bribes. Therefore, they also know that these hearings are a smoke screen.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (YslsA)

33 The walls are falling off and the wheels are closing in.


See also, Besuretodrinkyourovaltine

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (gmo/4)

34 Tell me when its in, Mr. Schiff.

Posted by: The Impeachment Chicken at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (sjdRT)

35

LOL.

Yeah fuckin' right... there was a thirty percent swing in people who believed we should impeach Trump for nothing, then saw that it was indeed nothing, and now don't think we should impeach Trump for nothing?

Pull the other one. It jingles.

The media is deciding that it's time to show the actual numbers because their impeachment circus had all the impact of a wet noodle on public opinion. Now they want to warn House Dems to pull up before they auger in.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (AzW6q)

36 So many posts, so much awesome sauce.

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (14URa)

37 Could this day get any better?

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (TdMsT)

38 Oh my.

First the Marquette poll for WI and then this for confirmation.

I think the chances of no impeachment vote just went from "not possible to "possible".

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (G0vdT)

39 The troll got banned?


hah.


lol get fucked.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (M0u+N)

40 I think that the impeachment issue is causing Pollsters to get a more accurate read.

Instead of hanging up or pissing in the results, Pollsters are getting some knee jerk honesty from their cold callees.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (gh1GI)

41 We're just being patriotic !

Posted by: SanFranNan at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (6XlcD)

42 Trump getting 50% is an electoral stomping.

Posted by: Ha at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (Q5eBq)

43 I'm mailing it in.

Posted by: John Kasich at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (aKsyK)

44 10 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

Thought xhe got banned
Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (77WPm)

----

Soooooo...... Im right.


Been away alot lately.... might have missed his expulsion.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

45
Just imagine if they polled Republicans, too.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (KATBx)

46 22 For myself, I do not pay attention to the polls themselves but wonder what the results being reported are supposed to do to shape public opinion. Simply: how does reporting that Trump is closing the gap in battleground states against the dem contenders actually serve to elect a democrat- which is what I believe the purpose of all reporting of polls is supposed to do.
===

Memo to D's: Abandon Presidency, save the House, try to Flip the Senate.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (LnUoW)

47 There is truth to that YD. it is their MO

Posted by: G marks the spot at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (GXoKW)

48
Ma! Ma! Where's my G-Pa?

Not going to the White House!
Ha! Ha! Ha!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (pNxlR)

49 10 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)


Isn't that the watered-down cow?

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (TdMsT)

50 Sheeple are stupid but not THAT stupid.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 21, 2019 02:17 PM (prSvo)

51 I think the initial polls were right and people did want him impeached based on the instant reporting which was all Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate Biden OMG!! now that the facts have come out and its boring as shit and nothing but bureaucrats whining, a good chunk of the population says fuck this shit.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at November 21, 2019 02:17 PM (zkFz1)

52 Surprise!

Posted by: Anal at November 21, 2019 02:17 PM (K4I9O)

53 This has been bad but I'm glad I wasn't the Russia Collusion Chicken.
Posted by: The Impeachment Chicken at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM


Da. Is for being lucky.

*drinks vodka*

Posted by: The Chicken Kyiv at November 21, 2019 02:17 PM (ejd/p)

54 When you lose the audience of the View demographic...

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:18 PM (gmo/4)

55 Yeah fuckin' right... there was a thirty percent
swing in people who believed we should impeach Trump for nothing, then
saw that it was indeed nothing, and now don't think we should impeach
Trump for nothing?



Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:15 PM (AzW6q)


To be fair to the LIVs, they've been flooded for 2+ years with "ABSOLUTELY ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE" that was "WITHIN WEEKS" going to send Trump "TO PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE".

Takes a while to overcome that.

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:18 PM (77WPm)

56 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

Thought xhe got banned
Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (77WPm)

----

Soooooo...... Im right.


Been away alot lately.... might have missed his expulsion.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

???
Thought I saw him on an earlier thread today?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:18 PM (cEsBM)

57 Thought xhe got banned
Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (77WPm)

May I propose a modification to the style guide
In recognition of the onomatopoeic nature I propose we go with xhit

Posted by: random lurker commenter at November 21, 2019 02:19 PM (48RE5)

58 You're not following The Narrative, Ace.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 21, 2019 02:19 PM (wtvvX)

59 I completely forgot Weld and Walsh were still trying to get their fifteen minutes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:20 PM (NVYyb)

60 Memo to D's: Abandon Presidency, save the House, try to Flip the Senate.

Posted by: Legion of Boom

--

For the senate, looks to me that a worst case is R -1

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YslsA)

61 Anyone heard a peep from that fuck romney since the joke hearings have gone south fast

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:20 PM (cEsBM)

62 To be fair to the LIVs, they've been flooded for 2+ years with "ABSOLUTELY ROCK SOLID EVIDENCE" that was "WITHIN WEEKS" going to send Trump "TO PRISON FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE".

Takes a while to overcome that.
Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:18 PM (77WPm)

These are the same folks that click on the clickbait ad. "Try not to be shocked when you see Scarlett Johansson without make up"

Posted by: Ted Striker's Polka Hits at November 21, 2019 02:20 PM (7nbjV)

63 Thought I saw him on an earlier thread today?


crud

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:21 PM (M0u+N)

64 Is the Schitt-Show over for the day?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:21 PM (NVYyb)

65
Look for the Impeachment Chorus to begin castigating American voters as "stupid, deplorable, uniformed and willfully oblivious" in 5, 4, 3, ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2019 02:21 PM (pNxlR)

66 60 For the senate, looks to me that a worst case is R -1

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 21, 2019 02:20 PM (YslsA)

61 Anyone heard a peep from that fuck romney since the joke hearings have gone south fast

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:20 PM (cEsBM)


Romney should be that -1.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:22 PM (1CjJc)

67 But all this impeachment stuff was severely hurting Trump. We were told about the polls constantly dropping on him! And don't forget the betting odds!


The. Betting. Odds!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 02:22 PM (SjIcT)

68 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)

Thought xhe got banned
Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:14 PM (77WPm)

----

Soooooo...... Im right.


Been away alot lately.... might have missed his expulsion.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (8XRCm)


I see other names showing up here, putting out feelers.

This one thinks it's clever, and goes for the "I'm just one of youse guys, honest, but..." game.

So look for that. It'll be back.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:22 PM (hku12)

69 61 Anyone heard a peep from that fuck romney since the joke hearings have gone south fast

===
"Holy shit. They really are the stupid party"

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:22 PM (LnUoW)

70 Let's start sucking each others diks now, mmkay?

Posted by: Bill Kristol at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (CLteG)

71 I hoping for a Buttigay nomination. A chance to swing the black vote for generations to come.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (yRAFu)

72 OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:

https://tinyurl.com/stbex4w

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (WI7YS)

73 damnit, could have been top 10, but nooooo work had to get in the way...

so this is having the expected results, essentially? i'm good with that.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (8D42x)

74 I thought Mayor Pete was leading all Democrats now? Was this another lie from the MSM and GoogleDrudge?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (UI60k)

75

I saw a Bezo Post headline: Impeachment bombshells aren't exploding. That's because they are duds.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (kw5n8)

76 Let's start sucking each others diks now, mmkay?
Posted by: Bill Kristol


hah

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (M0u+N)

77 Personally, I don't take much stock in polls numbers either way, positive or negative.

Polling is largely broken.

The mantra going forward should be, work as if your behind by 10 points and always be attacking.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (9b51h)

78 I find these polls to be high energy and classy. Really the most luxurious polls I've seen in quite some time. I like them. Bigly.

Posted by: Lurking Libertarian at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (ez1vH)

79 Paging Nancy Pelosi..

Paging Nancy Pelosi..

lol.. if she doesn't stop this shit show soon, she's gonna be out of a job!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (so+oy)

80 Progs live in an imaginary world.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (5xHY0)

81 Impeachment only works if they can drive Trump's support (meaning likely voters in the general election) down into the 30s.

If Trump is above 44% while weathering a set of hearings designed by the Dem and media to focus specifically on attacking him, with minimal opportunity to respond, then this is failing badly.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (AGMq9)

82 Is the Schitt-Show over for the day?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:21 PM (NVYyb)

No; It resumed after a lunch break.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (WI7YS)

83 It's weird to have two parallels noods. It's like that Star Trek episode with good Spock and evil Spock

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (U7cQ/)

84 63 Thought I saw him on an earlier thread today?


crud
Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:21 PM (M0u+N)

With changing nics, it is hard to say you have a lot of people with similar handles. Lurking Lurker, Lurking lurker (the other one), Lurking Libertarian, Lurking Lavado...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (ycWCI)

85 74 I thought Mayor Pete was leading all Democrats now? Was this another lie from the MSM and GoogleDrudge?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (UI60k)

==========

A couple of polls have shown him leading in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (q80AH)

86 The early polls on Impeach Yes/No were essentially just asking "Do you like Trump?" since basically zero % of those being polled knew anything about the impeachment "case" and thus they could assume the case was valid if they disliked Trump or assume the opposite if they liked Trump.

As the details of the "case" firmed up the polling question becomes more along the lines of "Should Trump be impeached because assorted dweebs and posers dislike him?"

Persuadables will be begin to drift away for the "Yes, impeach him" answer accordingly.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (hdzef)

87 And you thought you had enough good news for Trump

TheHill:

California high court strikes down state law targeting Trump tax returns.

I think Donny might have two scoops tonight.

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (G0vdT)

88 83 It's weird to have two parallels noods. It's like that Star Trek episode with good Spock and evil Spock
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 02:25 PM (U7cQ/)

Ace should have a burning skull with a little goatee.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:26 PM (ycWCI)

89 I agree, if Trump got 50% nationally it would be a 45 state win. I always remain skeptical of polls, I don't know if there is a true method anymore because of cell phones and R reluctance to answer polls.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 21, 2019 02:26 PM (r+sAi)

90 OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:

https://tinyurl.com/stbex4w
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
==============================

LOLGF Nancy!

Posted by: Guzalot at November 21, 2019 02:26 PM (prSvo)

91 81 Impeachment only works if they can drive Trump's support (meaning likely voters in the general election) down into the 30s.

If Trump is above 44% while weathering a set of hearings designed by the Dem and media to focus specifically on attacking him, with minimal opportunity to respond, then this is failing badly.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 21, 2019 02:24 PM (AGMq9)

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I think the number required is actually the low 20s.

Impeachment and conviction is an impossibly high hurdle. It shouldn't be. I imagine a world where Andrew Johnson was successfully impeached and convicted. Would FDR have presidented the way he did if impeachment and conviction was a realistic cudgel Congress could have wielded?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)

92 Progs live in an imaginary world.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


They do literally live in their own opinion bubble.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (M0u+N)

93 But all this impeachment stuff was severely hurting Trump. We were told
about the polls constantly dropping on him! And don't forget the
betting odds!

==============
It hurt like hell in the mid-terms. It's thanks to Snoozie Sessions, who we were assured would save us from this crap sandwich, we even have to deal with Chairman Schitt.

We were constantly told the DOJ would save us then. And here we are, still waiting for Godot/Horowitz/Huber/Durham. Thankfully, the waiting period seems to have been milked for about all it can reasonably be done.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (NVYyb)

94 Huge? Don't you mean YUGE?

Posted by: huerfano at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (9dnxb)

95 One thing that stands out with the head-to-heads is that they all add up to 100. Other polls have undecideds. I don't know how Emerson does this. Maybe they only give two options or ask how people are leaning and include that. It might be an indicator that people who are more iffy are more likely to go to Trump.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (xPl2J)

96 Remember when cold callers never called cellphones? Those were wonderful days.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (yRAFu)

97 49 10 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)


Isn't that the watered-down cow?
Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (TdMsT)


You mean WaterCow? That's FireHorse doing an obvious troll parody. Even the name gives it away.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (SjIcT)

98 where's that fucking plug ?

Posted by: Nancypants at November 21, 2019 02:28 PM (rpxSz)

99 How is a hunger strike a 'threat'?

Why do I care if you do not eat if you are not related to me and I do not really care to know you? Try not to clutter up the place with your bloated belly and we are good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:28 PM (ycWCI)

100 Meanwhile Extinction Rebellion takes over Nancy Pelosi's office to stage a hunger strike.

I hope they starve to death. Save Gaia and all that. From their CO2, chances at breeding, and general stupidity.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 21, 2019 02:28 PM (KKmEo)

101 Nanzi Palsi is already through half a bottle of Stoli and it ain't even 3:00.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (pw+jk)

102 You can't get wrapped up in over anal ...zzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: Bill Barr at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (Pzzpr)

103 Trump should start playing these fucktards by doing things like:

Ordering the White House Kitchen to serve Chicken Kiev at all state functions

Asking for 2 servings of Russian dressing on his salad at said state dinners

Serving nothing but Russian beluga caviar as the appetizer at said functions.

Just to fuck with 'em.



Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (mNUzX)

104 Note to media copy generators:

Bomb shells aren't actually damaging; bomb blasts are.

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (cvGi5)

105 OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:



Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I'm guessing that more than a few of them could safely survive a multi-week fast. No, not giving the article a click to find out.

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (77WPm)

106 I'm no expert but another way to read the data is not so much that impeachment is "backfiring" but the artificial suppression of his approval by the initial, breathless, fake headlines has now dissipated and the electorate is returning to a more "normal" evaluation of his Presidency.

Looking at the retarded coverage by CNN, NY Times, NY Post and even Fox for Chrissakes I think that the "backfire" is mostly among the already pro Trump and that most others are just getting a "confused" hearing with "no smoking gun." So Eeyore in one sense but still optimistic about the electoral outcome.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (koNhm)

107 Nothing that Trump has done in the last three years has helped his poll numbers anywhere near as much as this impeachment fiasco has. It's almost as if it were planned that way.

How certain are we that Schiff isn't a Russian Asset working with the Trump Campaign to help Trump win in 2020?

I think it's something that seriously needs looking into.

Posted by: 29victor at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (BJKQV)

108
There is no such thing as a seismic shift in public opinion. That is a very gradual thing. It takes at least a period of months, often years, and sometimes decades.

This is doubly true in the case of DJT. My main man could cap a dude in broad daylight on 5th Avenue, and he wouldn't lose my vote.

For the people who dislike him, he could invent the cure for cancer, and if they had lymphoma, they'd be mainlining Trumpexa while screaming for his impeachment.

It's the same old failed disinformation campaign late-stage walkback we see in many political campaigns.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (AzW6q)

109 TdMsT)


You mean WaterCow? That's FireHorse doing an obvious troll parody. Even the name gives it away.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (SjIcT)


Well thank goodness you TOLD me!

He does the "concern troll" bit very well indeed.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (TdMsT)

110 Lefty reporters are twittering away about what bad Americans the voters are, being so unimpressed with the outstanding show the Demofascists are putting on. I think that means good things. We may still, for one, get to have an election next year.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:30 PM (NVYyb)

111 90
OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:



https://tinyurl.com/stbex4w

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

==============================



LOLGF Nancy!

Posted by: Guzalot at November 21, 2019 02:26 PM (prSvo)

All I want for Christmas is for them to get rabidly hungry and eat Pelosi's beef jerky face off.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:30 PM (1CjJc)

112 Why do I care if you do not eat if you are not related to me and I do not really care to know you? Try not to clutter up the place with your bloated belly and we are good.
Posted by: Aetius451AD


They act as if we care.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:30 PM (M0u+N)

113 98% of the media agree that Trump should be impeached.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 21, 2019 02:30 PM (pw+jk)

114
here we are, still waiting for Godot/Horowitz/Huber/Durham. Thankfully, the waiting period seems to have been milked for about all it can reasonably be done.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

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I wonder when we're going to get a post about that December 9 announcement. I want to eeyore all over it. The verbiage about it is ominous as hell.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 21, 2019 02:30 PM (QfRqO)

115 74 I thought Mayor Pete was leading all Democrats now? Was this another lie from the MSM and GoogleDrudge?
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (UI60k)


His Facebook notification of a town hall had 15 replies and only 2 were pro-Buttgig. lol. The spotlight has not been good for Pete Breath!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at November 21, 2019 02:30 PM (Vy7tf)

116 Deplorables cumming on their sisters titties because drumpf is only hated by 52% of the country.

Ha ha ha

Louisiana and Kentucky say hi.

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:31 PM (FR8hO)

117 Data points:
Vinderman admits he made up a transcript
Scheiff is forced to admit he made up a transcript

Vinderman admits he requested edits to the transcript;
Admits he tried to access the transcript

But the real transcript was on the classified server

Trump says he caught them, caught them all.

Conclusion?

Trump let Vinderman see a fake transcript that he would think was the real one.
That's the transcript he reported to Scheiff, that she's Scheiff reported in the closed-door Dem caucus
That's the transcript Scheiff tried testing as the real one he read into the record

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 21, 2019 02:31 PM (6e/MW)

118 Well, who could argue with that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:31 PM (ycWCI)

119 I'm no expert but another way to read the data is not so much that
impeachment is "backfiring" but the artificial suppression of his
approval by the initial, breathless, fake headlines has now dissipated


I'm choosing the power of "and"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:31 PM (NVYyb)

120 Lock Him Up in the ass


U mad bro?

Things not going your way? heh

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:32 PM (M0u+N)

121 Clean up on aisle 116.

Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:32 PM (TdMsT)

122 74 I thought Mayor Pete was leading all Democrats now? Was this another lie from the MSM and GoogleDrudge?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (UI60k)


Think he's leading in Iowa, which is a caucus state where the "popular vote" doesn't matter at all and where I think 4 of the "top contenders" are all within +/- 4% of 20% of the electorate.

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:32 PM (77WPm)

123 These are the same folks that click on the clickbait ad. "Try not to be shocked when you see Scarlett Johansson without make up"

My least favorite version of that, which has appeared here on the HQ, is "You'll be shocked at Melania's IQ compared to Michelle Obama's".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:32 PM (ZGrMX)

124 There is no such thing as a seismic shift in public opinion. That is a very gradual thing. It takes at least a period of months, often years, and sometimes decades.
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Counter argument: Preference Cascades

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (LnUoW)

125 "I think the number required is actually the low 20s."

Clarification - I'm saying it only works as electoral strategy that keeps Trump from being elected next year.

It doesn't work for removing him from office at all, that isn't going to happen, period.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (AGMq9)

126 ==============
It hurt like hell in the mid-terms. It's thanks to Snoozie Sessions, who we were assured would save us from this crap sandwich, we even have to deal with Chairman Schitt.

We were constantly told the DOJ would save us then. And here we are, still waiting for Godot/Horowitz/Huber/Durham. Thankfully, the waiting period seems to have been milked for about all it can reasonably be done.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (NVYyb)

What really hurt in the midterms was the exodus of a lot of veteran congressmen who quit since the Rs term limit chairmanships now and they didn't want to sit in any other chair. Had to come up with too many new candidates to fast. Trump then concentrated on locking up the Senate to get judges and checkmate this kind of nonsense.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (FTPn0)

127 ...
How certain are we that Schiff isn't a Russian Asset working with the Trump Campaign to help Trump win in 2020?

I think it's something that seriously needs looking into.
Posted by: 29victor at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (BJKQV)


I know. Let's ask Hillary. She knows.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (aS1PU)

128 Hillary (Someone else) is at 3% ... or less.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (XzVUd)

129 Trump should start playing these fucktards by doing things like:

Ordering the White House Kitchen to serve Chicken Kiev at all state functions

Asking for 2 servings of Russian dressing on his salad at said state dinners

Serving nothing but Russian beluga caviar as the appetizer at said functions.

Just to fuck with 'em.





Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (mNUzX)

Have The Marine Band take up the Balalaika.Traditional Cossack dancers

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (gmo/4)

130 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

131 49 10 Bucks says our lurking lurker poll troll will be conspicuously absent from the thread.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (8XRCm)


Isn't that the watered-down cow?
Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:16 PM (TdMsT)


I've mentioned it several times. Even cautioned him a bit that if he does it too well a cob in a bad mood could ban him. Now lurking lurker was moo moo and his troll ass got banned. Probably using a different name now though and just waiting till he can again turn up the stupid and prove again it's his personality that annoys people.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (SjIcT)

132 Doesn't Shiff look a bit like that weird black and white cat clock from back in the day?

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (n13/j)

133 I think the number required is actually the low 20s.

Impeachment and conviction is an impossibly high hurdle. It shouldn't be. I imagine a world where Andrew Johnson was successfully impeached and convicted. Would FDR have presidented the way he did if impeachment and conviction was a realistic cudgel Congress could have wielded?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)


Andrew Johnson is an interesting parallel for Trump. An outside who was considered to have no business being in the White House.

So they tried to impeach him on trumped (sorry, too easy) up charges.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (hku12)

134
My least favorite version of that, which has appeared here on the HQ, is "You'll be shocked at Melania's IQ compared to Michelle Obama's".
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:32 PM (ZGrMX)

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What's the big shock? Is Melania less than fifty points above Michelle?

That would shock me. Michelle ain't very bright. Melania's very smart.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (AzW6q)

135 His Facebook notification of a town hall had 15 replies and only 2 were
pro-Buttgig. lol. The spotlight has not been good for Pete Breath!
=====

Mayor PB is not a shining example of good government. 'Town Hall' indeed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (MIKMs)

136
Lock Him Up in the ass

What's this about Ben Shapiro?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (1CjJc)

137 Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass


(types) (deletes)

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (77WPm)

138 Lock Him Up in the ass

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Ok, Boomer.....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (8XRCm)

139 fiona will go home tonight, change into her dominatrix garb, enter her secret dungeon, and scream her lungs out.

"how dare they fuck with me!!!!"

Posted by: trapper's girl at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (dnjy6)

140 Obama and Clinton both left with 60% plus approval and you troglodyte klansmen are happy with 48 for your leader.

Lol

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (44Lxl)

141 Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at November 21, 2019 02:29 PM (mNUzX)

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Give Russian nesting dolls for Christmas presents to the press?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (NVYyb)

142 I'm glad to see most of these fake polls are showing Trump a few points ahead. It will make the landslide that much more satisfying next year.

Posted by: Galil at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (Pzzpr)

143 86, Frankovitch's Monster--You've got it regarding public opinion. A old reputable pollster, Yankelovitch, wrote a book called Coming to Public Judgment. In that book, he notes that when first presented with a new problem, the public cycles back and forth with the initial take being their underlying stereotypes and biases. But the general public can and does learn and then develops relatively stable public opinion outcomes.

The Mueller investigation and the subsequent impeachment is a real risk for Dems as it really interferes with what their caucus all agrees upon--"More" Money given to them. It harms the Dem candidates for president as their giveaways aren't getting picked up on by the low information voters needed in a general election. It also does not let them hone their messages to get the most popular gimmes for this cycle.

If the general election turnout is depressed, Dems will lose.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (MItID)

144 If Trump is ahead in national polls, or even a few points behind, he should win the electoral college in a landslide, given the concentration of Trump haters in California.

Posted by: zmdavid at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (xqRaG)

145 My least favorite version of that, which has appeared here on the HQ, is "You'll be shocked at Melania's IQ compared to Michelle Obama's".

--------------

Yeah, but have you compared their shoulders?

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:34 PM (sX1BW)

146 I was hoping for a bigger backfire, but I'll take it.

All Trump basically has to do is win Wisconsin and he's President, and there's already polls showing he is.

I will say I'm not as "cocky" as I once was, some of these special elections in KY and LA not going our way was a splash of cold water. I know there are reasons that have nothing to do with Trump, but why Republicans can't turn out even in deep red states is troubling.

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (qqbvc)

147 130
I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

I'd go down on that faster than Ace on a Vespa.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (1CjJc)

148 That would shock me. Michelle ain't very bright. Melania's very smart.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (AzW6q)

---

How many languages does Melania speak?? 6 - 7??...

Is Eubonics a language??

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)

149 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.
Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)


You wear makeup? Weirdo.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (hku12)

150 133

Andrew Johnson is an interesting parallel for Trump. An outside who was considered to have no business being in the White House.

So they tried to impeach him on trumped (sorry, too easy) up charges.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (hku12)

=========

The charges were bull, but it was based on a specific (later deemed unconstitutional) law.

Johnson was genuinely a bad president, though. He mismanaged Reconstruction about as badly as possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (q80AH)

151 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

Why would you need makeup to do Scarlet Johansen? You must be butt ugly.

Posted by: Please dont answer at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (vqIkG)

152 OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:

https://tinyurl.com/stbex4w
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Yawn.
Does anyone care?
Or is this a draft alt-news being floated by the Left to see what they can conjure up over Thanksgiving to make conservatives feel guilty?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (axyOa)

153 20 Lock Him Up in the ass


U mad bro?

Things not going your way? heh
Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:32 PM (M0u+N)

-----------------------------

Amazing how quickly the left fires off the homophobic rape jokes, isn't it?

Posted by: 29victor at November 21, 2019 02:36 PM (BJKQV)

154 You know I'm not sure whether to interrupt the Democrats when they are shooting their feet or not. Certainly getting tired of this impeachment crap.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 02:36 PM (ZCEU2)

155 Ryan Fournier @RyanAFournier
3h
The DNC dropped their October FEC report in the middle of last night's debate with the hopes no one would see it.

The committee is $7,048,210.14 in debt.

RT so everyone can see how broke they are

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:36 PM (BqBId)

156 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 02:36 PM (tjClK)

157 Oh this twat enjoys the last word. Doesn't wear well here in 'teh stets' ma'am.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (WQZ1O)

158 I call bullshit that Trump loses to Sanders and is tied with Warren.

Are they sampling Dem +8?

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (tjClK)

159 OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:

https://tinyurl.com/stbex4w
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Yawn.
Does anyone care?
Or is this a draft alt-news being floated by the Left to see what they can conjure up over Thanksgiving to make conservatives feel guilty?
Posted by: Diogenes


If that's the best they have, they'd best not even bother getting out of bed.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (kDUUX)

160 I see Doofenshiff's Trump Insinuation-inator is working overtime.
The "House will see if the Presidents actions are compatible with the office ..." etc.

Take any, routine act or phrase and express in the most sweeping terms, with maximum evil intent and entirely ignore the context, and you know how the Insinuation-inator works.

Trump comes to the office early? He has "Intruded into the Oval Office and accessed official prior to normal supervision by administrative staff...." etc etc etc

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (koNhm)

161 Just a little highlighter. Don't judge.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (M0u+N)

162 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

I'd go down on that faster than Ace on a Vespa.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM


***

Besides AtC of course, Johansen is kinda what I have in mind when I tell Mrs D I'm stopping off for a short one.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (axyOa)

163 It's all fun and games until people start dying of starvation in Pelosi's office.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (5xHY0)

164 154 You know I'm not sure whether to interrupt the Democrats when they are shooting their feet or not. Certainly getting tired of this impeachment crap.
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 02:36 PM (ZCEU2)

Well, floor repair can be expensive. Maybe ask them to pummel their own feet with sledge hammers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (ycWCI)

165 116 Deplorables cumming on their sisters titties because drumpf is only hated by 52% of the country.

Ha ha ha

Louisiana and Kentucky say hi.
Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:31 PM (FR8hO)

Hi Lurking Cock Glurper.

Posted by: monkey at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (CLteG)

166 This lady cannot shut up. Like I said, under a good cross which these proceedings do not allow, she would be eviscerated. She cannot stand someone else appearing to be smarter or more righteous than her. Classic narcissist.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (sX1BW)

167 151 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

Why would you need makeup to do Scarlet Johansen? You must be butt ugly.
Posted by: Please dont answer at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (vqIkG)

Proof positive that grammar is not a female relative.

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (glGDV)

168 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

I'd go down on that faster than Ace on a Vespa.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (1CjJc)


We would totally watch you, like she was our wives.

Posted by: Joana Golbbug and Bil Kristal at November 21, 2019 02:38 PM (hku12)

169 133, Actually one of the key charges in the Johnson impeachment was the violation of a congressional act, the Tenure in Office Act, that clearly Johnson violated by firing Sec. of War Stanton.

However, in Johnson's defense, the law was passed over his veto and had the U.S. Supreme Court had any stones, the law would have been declared unconstitutional as all prior presidents including Washington argued that they could fire executive dept employees for any reason at all.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2019 02:38 PM (MItID)

170 Counter argument: Preference Cascades
Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (LnUoW)

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To be sure. In any opinion-shift, there's a tipping point. With Trump's actual real-life, not fake-polled popularity I suspect that point was when Mueller went down in flames at those hearings.

But even so, it take more than a couple of weeks for that shift to manifest itself observably. I will maintain
that there's no such thing as 30 point swing in opinion in less than a month, without some kind of earth-shaking event imposing itself on the scenario.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:38 PM (AzW6q)

171 163 It's all fun and games until people start dying of starvation in Pelosi's office.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (5xHY0)

Think there is little chance of that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:38 PM (ycWCI)

172 Have The Marine Band take up the Balalaika.
Traditional Cossack dancers.
Trump start wearing a fur hat in winter.
Borsch.
The WH kitchen cook a lot of meat, cabbage and potato dinners.

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:38 PM (gmo/4)

173 I don't believe those head-to-head polling figures even come close to reflecting reality. Lt. Col. Sanders beating Trump? BS.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (vtcmf)

174 PSA, and a reminder - DON'T QUOTE THE TROLLS!

Makes the eventual clean-up harder

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (77WPm)

175 Andrew Johnson is an interesting parallel for Trump. An outside who was considered to have no business being in the White House.

So they tried to impeach him on trumped (sorry, too easy) up charges.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (hku12)

=========

The charges were bull, but it was based on a specific (later deemed unconstitutional) law.

Johnson was genuinely a bad president, though. He mismanaged Reconstruction about as badly as possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Andrew Jackson is a better analogue. rump needs a hickory stick

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (mYGbK)

176 158 I call bullshit that Trump loses to Sanders and is tied with Warren.

Are they sampling Dem +8?
Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (tjClK)

Maybe it's all adults, which is probably 10% illegal aliens.

Posted by: zmdavid at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (xqRaG)

177 Threaten hunger Strike:


Sounds good to me:


https://youtu.be/VUb450Alpps

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting. at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (SchxB)

178 I call bullshit that Trump loses to Sanders and is tied with Warren.

Are they sampling Dem +8?
Posted by: Sponge

___________

It's just name ID at this point and just bouncing around the margin of error, Trump would beat Sanders by double digits in a real election and is by far the weakest.

What it does show though is people are sticking with Trump. And I give Trump 3-4 points in every poll.

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (qqbvc)

179 I see Doofenshiff's Trump Insinuation-inator is working overtime.
The "House will see if the Presidents actions are compatible with the office ..." etc.

Take any, routine act or phrase and express in the most sweeping terms, with maximum evil intent and entirely ignore the context, and you know how the Insinuation-inator works.

Trump comes to the office early? He has "Intruded into the Oval Office and accessed official prior to normal supervision by administrative staff...." etc etc etc

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM


***

PDT Trump will dominate the Tri-State Area!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (axyOa)

180 Ace, you're killing it in the sidebar again!

>>Ever notice that all of the strident propagandists for alleged Free
Market Corporatism themselves have only the most theoretical experience
with actual capitalism?

Yup. Also noticed that a lot of them got their position thanks to nepotism.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 21, 2019 02:39 PM (bDqIh)

181 166 Michelle: Princeton educated lawyer

Melania: Euro slut who posed naked for a living.

Gee I wonder which one is smarter?

You troglodytes are funny I will give you that much.

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM (mQD1h)



Ask Mooch how she got the raise/promotion at the hospital.



Better yet: ask her how many languages she speaks.


Need to at least come up with something smarter. C'mon little doggie. . . you can do it.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (zVXtJ)

182 87 And you thought you had enough good news for Trump

TheHill:

California high court strikes down state law targeting Trump tax returns.

I think Donny might have two scoops tonight.

Posted by: WisRich
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You know the rulz - Linkage?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (lwKRt)

183 155, Dems are largely financed by oligarchs now, not the DNC, and the oligarchs do not trust the DNC to spend it in the ways that oligarchs find useful. Thus, the real action is in the dark money category, not party committees.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (MItID)

184 140 60% approval? Put down the bong dude.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (PQRcz)

185 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

Perhaps you should ask her first whether she'd like you to wear make-up or just be natural?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (WI7YS)

186 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

I'd go down on that faster than Ace on a Vespa.
Posted by: flounder


Go down faster than Ace's shelves.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (kDUUX)

187
So.......

Grab em By the Pussy
Emoluments Clause
Russia Russia Russia
Stormy Daniels and her semi trained Lawyer
Ukraine

All were suppose to cast Trump out of office.

What will the next Faux outrage be???

Discus.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (8XRCm)

188 Better yet: ask her how many languages she speaks.

---------------

Ask her how many tackling sleds she had done in her day?

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (sX1BW)

189 >>Better yet: ask her how many languages she speaks.


Goonie Goo Goo!

Posted by: Michele Obama's Landing Strip at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (gh1GI)

190
I see Doofenshiff's Trump Insinuation-inator is working overtime.

The "House will see if the Presidents actions are compatible with the office ..." etc.



Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:37 PM


OK, who else heard the jingle when you read that? Just me?


Doofenshiff's Evil Incorporated!!

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (77WPm)

191 83
It's weird to have two parallels noods. It's like that Star Trek episode with good Spock and evil Spock

could be worse. could be like the episode with the dude and the antidude that will destroy the universe if they come together.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (sGtp+)

192 I see Mr. Soros sent in some flying monkeys. Must be upset.

Posted by: overit at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (sI15f)

193 Any poll is shaped by a few things.
1. Who pays for the poll
2. Who writes the questions
3. How the poll is weighted
4. The purpose of the poll

Posted by: Chillin the most at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (lonOK)

194 A kind person might say Michelle Obama is literate in English. They would be lying though.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (O+iVW)

195 Schiff's mom releases old picture of the Shitt himself

https://is.gd/fq9mZJ

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (NVYyb)

196 In the ass is typing while wearing those big ass fake tyranny eyelashes.

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (gmo/4)

197 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

I'd go down on that faster than Ace on a Vespa.
Posted by: flounder


Go down faster than Ace's shelves.

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Certainly I would talk about it as much as Ace's shelves.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (sX1BW)

198 Maybe Chris Wallace and Bret Baier will do a live murder-suicide on tv.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (j3npP)

199 A Vespa on ace's shelves!

Down below!!!!!!!

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (M0u+N)

200 Clean up aisle 194 - amusement factor zero.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (PQRcz)

201 Andrew Johnson is an interesting parallel for Trump. An outside who was considered to have no business being in the White House.

So they tried to impeach him on trumped (sorry, too easy) up charges.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (hku12)

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The charges were bull, but it was based on a specific (later deemed unconstitutional) law.

Johnson was genuinely a bad president, though. He mismanaged Reconstruction about as badly as possible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (q80AH)


Well yeah, he was a bad President, and he shouldn't have been made the Veep, but at the time they put him on the ticket it was to appease the border states.

The same people who insisted he be on the ticket, instantly decided he needed to be undermined as President, and then proceeded to attempt impeachment, because he was bumbling his way through the job.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (hku12)

202 Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (WI7YS)

203 Who is this troll who is accusing conservatives of perversions only Democrats perform?

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (Uu+Jp)

204 Any poll is shaped by a few things.
1. Who pays for the poll
2. Who writes the questions
3. How the poll is weighted
4. The purpose of the poll

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5. What idiot wants to take the time to talk to a democrat operative?

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (sX1BW)

205 ABC7 News @abc7newsbayarea
52m
#BREAKING: California Supreme Court rejects law requiring Trump to disclose tax returns to appear on state's primary ballo

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (BqBId)

206 Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (zVXtJ)

Don't quote the trolls. Makes cleanup harder for the cobs.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (ZGrMX)

207 Clean up aisle 194 - amusement factor zero.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (PQRcz)

Xhe's all over the thread. Someone will be by soon to clean it up.

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (77WPm)

208
Man our new troll has some kind of warped psychosexual obsession with the Big Dog, DJT.

It's ok, buddy. Let it out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (AzW6q)

209 >>I see Doofenshiff's Trump Insinuation-inator is working overtime.



LOL, when can we expect Perry the Platypus to provide the killer intel? Schiff's got squirrels in his pants.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (bDqIh)

210 Double delicious scoop?

Trump did place the fake transcript on another server which vinderman was not authorized to access but which he did access.

Vinderman cannot claim "that's not the real transcript I saw the real one" because he would admit to a crime

that's why he's claiming he made up a transcript rather than claiming he saw the actual or fake transcript

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (6e/MW)

211 Better yet, as the past few years have shown their response will be to turn it up even louder - on the "up to 11" scale they are at 16 or 17 already, by my estimation.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (JwHjN)

212 You know the rulz - Linkage?
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 21, 2019 02:40 PM (lwKRt)
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Here you go.

https://tinyurl.com/wzzlhft

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (G0vdT)

213 Can one of the YouTube/GIF magicians put together a meme: To most people the statement "Nothing, nothing, no quid pro-quo, nothing" means: Nothing, nothing, no quid pro-quo, nothing.
But to Deep State/Progressives it means giving someone **the wink and a nod, with a finger gun and the thumb going down.** meaning Get'er Don!

Posted by: Paladin at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (WA3cK)

214 [i...]faster than Ace's shelves.


*********

Just be sure your screwdriver is rotating the right direction.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (m45I2)

215 Troll = Lurking Felcher

Posted by: monkey at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (CLteG)

216 Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:42 PM (dJbej)


That would be your President Donnie, retard.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (1CjJc)

217 OT Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike:

https://tinyurl.com/stbex4w
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:23 PM (WI7YS)

Fine, let them starve themselves. Lock them in, and ship in nothing but Impossible Burgers. And take away all the toilet paper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (/sgva)

218 Ace, clean up now in aisle 212. Ban this dude.

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (G0vdT)

219 Asking with all due respect: will you ban the troll?

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (TdMsT)

220 What will the next Faux outrage be???

Discus.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:41 PM (8XRCm)

I think we already progressed to the point that every outrage is just about the general outrage itself. It is always merely a pretext to talk about their general dislike of Trump.

The Schiff hearings seem to be nothing more that a ploy to try to get every little grievance they can air to have the widest coverage they can possibly have. It really is a just a slightly more upscale bitch session.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (ycWCI)

221 202
You are correct sir!

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (P4Pk9)

222 This is a bit interesting. A narrative change from cspan.
CSpan has reframed Shiff's folly from 'House Impeachment Inquiry' to 'Key Capitol Hill Hearings'
Your guess is as good as mine as to what this means.

Posted by: AoSNN at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (vqIkG)

223 -
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Ask Mooch how she got the raise/promotion at the hospital.



Better yet: ask her how many languages she speaks.


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No thanks. I want my arms to stay in their sockets.


Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM (pMGkg)

224 This was meant for the Joe Biden thread below, but his remarks about "punching" out domestic violence reminded me of of a song I heard recently.

During Mad Magazine's heyday back in the Sixties, they actually produced a satirical Off-Broadway revue, The Mad Show. One of the songs was, "Hate Song". A bunch of kids (in other words, Baby Boomers) vow to "stamp out Hate". This quickly escalates into wanting to torture Hate, murder Hate, and violate Hate's corpse. The song ends with a grown-up Establishment liberal warmly praising their idealism, whereupon the kids immediately gang up and kill him.

A song as relevant now as it was back then.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (/piyO)

225 Shun and it will leave.

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (gmo/4)

226 Mooch is literate in English, by remember her college paper and it made as much sense as a monkey picking words out of a dictionary.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (ZCEU2)

227 221
H.R. Meeting

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (P4Pk9)

228
Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (8XDV1)

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Rump Rangers hash changes on every post.

We got one of the paid trolls here boys and girls.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (8XRCm)

229 203
Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (WI7YS)

Which one?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (1CjJc)

230 I smell burnt cheeze and bolgna.

Posted by: AoSNN-1 at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (vqIkG)

231 I'd like to see polling results for the following question:

Would you support removing PDT from office, even if he had done nothing illegal and it was unconstitutional to do so?


Then juxtapose that against all other polls to give perspective to public opinion on the issue.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (iIUKh)

232 Funny, there's a discussion of a recently banned commenter, who faked being "one of us," and suddenly there are particularly nasty trolls showing up.

Coincidence???

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (hku12)

233 Wickedness has overtaken the democrats. It is thick and visible.

Posted by: overit at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (sI15f)

234 203 Who is this troll who is accusing conservatives of perversions only Democrats perform?

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (Uu+Jp)

You forgot NTTAWWT for our poor furry xer.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (O+iVW)

235 Will you all relax about the banning. The troll is changing hashes with every post and it makes it harder to get rid of it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (ZLI7S)

236 Donnie TwoScoops is rent-free living yuge quantities of space in the tiny minds of proggie-tards everywhere. Glorious.

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (77WPm)

237 123 These are the same folks that click on the clickbait ad. "Try not to be shocked when you see Scarlett Johansson without make up"

My least favorite version of that, which has appeared here on the HQ, is "You'll be shocked at Melania's IQ compared to Michelle Obama's".
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019


*
*

If I clicked on such a thing, which I wouldn't, I probably would be shocked at how much higher Melania's IQ is than Worf's. (If, of course, the "news" source reported accurately. Which they won't.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (Ejm1K)

238 -
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Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.



Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2019 02:43 PM (WI7YS)

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I am not a troll.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (pMGkg)

239 ABC7 News @abc7newsbayarea
52m
#BREAKING: California Supreme Court rejects law requiring Trump to disclose tax returns to appear on state's primary ballo
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit


Bwahahahahahahaha.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (kDUUX)

240 Meth, me too! - Plagiarizing pawpaw

Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (gmo/4)

241 Wonder if Jared ever gets involved. Prolly not. Drumpf is a lot of things but he aint no homo right patriots?

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (5YQEt)

242 202
Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.


Surprise him!!!

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 21, 2019 02:48 PM (XzVUd)

243 Je suis anal sex obsessed troll!

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:48 PM (M0u+N)

244 Is it OT to comment on Barklay's comment about "I don't hit women but if I did I'd hit you"?

I think many missed the boat in that Sir Charles is in my opinion a smart, fearless guy who was letting his anti PC fly.
Not that he cares what we think but I actually thought his comment was actually pretty funny in a PC-go-to-hell kind of way.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:48 PM (koNhm)

245 Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.

Surprise him!!!
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 21, 2019 02:48 PM (XzVUd)


You called?

- The otters

Posted by: DocJ at November 21, 2019 02:48 PM (77WPm)

246 171, preference cascades aka bandwagon effects do not work the way you think. These occur mostly when a new issue or politician comes up, Obama beat Hillary over such primarily because he was a new face that was clear from all the warts of Clinton inc.

It could happen in a general election, but at this stage, impeachment appears to be a known quantity and given that the Dems have now had a "non-partisan" counsel fail to bring Trump down, a partisan attempt is unlikely to do any better. Any third attempts will probably lead to implosion of support from independents for Dems as most people do not want to live in a country where turmoil is 24/7 on who is the leader. Business executives also may lean left but do not want marches in the streets for the long run. Notice how BLM and Occupy mysteriously vanished when they became negatives.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (MItID)

247 There are click bait ads without busty women as the link? When did this happen?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (ycWCI)

248 What will the next Faux outrage be???

Discus.
Posted by: fixerupper


The left is one giant case of projection therefore:

I'm betting on them finding some gutter-level white house staffer to accuse Trump of sexual harrassment next year.

"He WaNteD Me ToO GiVe HiM a BlOwJoB iN tHe OvAl OfFiCe~!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (1Vobx)

249 238
I am not a troll.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (pMGkg)

======

Exactly what a troll would say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

250 I like to cum on myself is that wrong?

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (5YQEt)

251 So, todays witness basically boils down to?

President didn't like the Ambassador, because of a smear campaign, so sent Rudy to Ukraine because they did not trust the ambassador.

And it pissed off 'the Professionals'

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (NgKpN)

252 Shun and it will leave.
Posted by: Archer at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (gmo/4)


One of those things that's been around since Al Gore invented the internet.

Ignore the trolls and they will leave.

Nobody knows if that's true or not, because never in the history of the internet has it ever been tried.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (hku12)

253 Ask Mooch how she got the raise/promotion at the hospital.



Better yet: ask her how many languages she speaks.


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No thanks. I want my arms to stay in their sockets.


Posted by: irright



Sometimes it's best to let the Wookie win.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (kDUUX)

254 214 WisRich
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Thank you sir.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (lwKRt)

255
Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.


Surprise him!!!

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 21, 2019 02:48 PM (XzVUd)

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Yes!!! You otter do that!!

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (8XRCm)

256
Rump Rangers hash changes on every post.

We got one of the paid trolls here boys and girls.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:46 PM (8XRCm

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I've been reading up on how those kinds of operations work. They're actually fairly sophisticated setups. But at the end of day, you have to work with the hiring pool that's available.

All the money, cool technology, and solid digital media strategy in the world can't get past the fact that the workers available to companies like Shareblue are basically the lowest common human denominator that can be found, short of people who actually can't operate a keyboard.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (AzW6q)

257 This is a bit interesting. A narrative change from cspan.
CSpan has reframed Shiff's folly from 'House Impeachment Inquiry' to 'Key Capitol Hill Hearings'
Your guess is as good as mine as to what this means.


Posted by: AoSNN at November 21, 2019 02:45 PM


***

Clearly they have run a new batch of focus groups and have a new term to spring on us that fits better with Key Capitol Hill Hearings. Bribery was sooo yesterday.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (axyOa)

258 >>Ask Mooch how she got the raise/promotion at the hospital.




Simple: Valerie Jarret created it for her.

Jarret was the chair of the Board of Trustees at the University of Chicago Medical Center.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (bDqIh)

259 Do the Dems want to win the White House in 2020, or are they just trying to damage Trump, so when he wins, he won't be able to do anything?

I'm pretty sure as of right now, they don't believe they will win. Looking at it from that perspective, their actions today seem fairly logical.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (hku12)
++++++++++++++
I think the past three years has demonstrated that the permanent state bureaucracy has so much power, influence and can play kingmaker in so many areas through either cooperation or obstruction that they may not care about the White House nearly as much as they used to.

I think they want to win, but I am not at all sure that they view it as an imperative.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (I2dne)

260 I give myself surprise anal sometimes.

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (5YQEt)

261 Yeah, imagine those polls after four or five weeks of non stop ads with the Dem nominee saying we should pay for illegals' healthcare and whatever other bat shit stuff fell out of their pie holes.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (jp0Bv)

262 Am I overthinking it or can a troll inject enough pornographic language into a thread/blog to trigger The Algorithm to further downlist it?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (koNhm)

263 I am not a troll.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (pMGkg)

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Exactly what a troll would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

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Denial.... is the first sign of a problem.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (8XRCm)

264 Oh, and guy who 'overheard' the phone call?

He works for the administration, why the hell was that phone call NOT covered under executive Privilege?

President talking to an advisor is EXACTLY why executive privilege exists. Yet an employee of State Dept talks about that phone call?

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (NgKpN)

265 Double delicious scoop?

Trump did place the fake transcript on another server which vinderman was not authorized to access but which he did access.

Vinderman cannot claim "that's not the real transcript I saw the real one" because he would admit to a crime

that's why he's claiming he made up a transcript rather than claiming he saw the actual or fake transcript
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 21, 2019 02:44 PM (6e/MW)

Vindy was in on the call, so I don't see how a fake transcript would fool him in that way. Now if Vindy added stuff to the report he gave the whistleblower, that might be an issue for Schiff if he trusted him.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (FTPn0)

266 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.
Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:33 PM (M0u+N)

But a little mascara on your pubes would give it that added frisson of kink.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (/sgva)

267 Why is that vile POS still here?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (cEsBM)

268 Systemic trollism. You don't even know you're a troll.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (koNhm)

269 Denial.... is the first sign of a problem.


No it isn't.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (M0u+N)

270 If someone is socking the troll, don't. It's a Bad Idea.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (3Z6pZ)

271 Paul Sperry @paulsperry_
33m
BREAKING: In impeachment testimony today, Fiona Hill acknowledged that Ukrainian officials "bet" on Hillary winning in 2016 & tried to "curry favor" w her & at the same time said "hurtful" things about Trump--i.e., interference--that he would understandably be "aggrieved" by now

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (BqBId)

272 Yes!!! You otter do that!!

Posted by: fixerupper


I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (d7Ww2)

273 Systemic trollism. You don't even know you're a troll.

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Troll Privilege.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (sX1BW)

274 Is Eubonics a language??
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)
++++++++++++
I think Eubonics' official name is "Esperanto."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (I2dne)

275 Cob re-editing the troll's comments in real time. Priceless.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (m45I2)

276 Do not feed the anal sex obsessed troll.

lol, that's like CBD asking that the first 100 comments on the morning Art Thread be about the painting.

Posted by: Alice McD at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (E+yET)

277 Polls: Support for Impeachment Dropping, Trump Gains on His Democrat Opponents, Now Leading (Within the Margin of Error) Three of the Four Top Democrat Challengers

Imagine if people were actually watching the faux hearings.

Then imagine their critical thinking skills kicking in.

Numbers would be off the charts.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (vEIlU)

278 269 Denial.... is the first sign of a problem.


No it isn't.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (M0u+N)

Usually the first sign is something like pain, or smoke.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (O+iVW)

279 Note to dims

From someone who has gone on over 60 business trip to England

Not everyone is enamored by the English accent

Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (rpxSz)

280 And it pissed off 'the Professionals'
Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (NgKpN)


That's basically the entire collection of Trump's opposition.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (hku12)

281 Angry and throwing things at your computer, the troll imagines you are.

But zero f*cks to his words, you have given.

Posted by: Yoda at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (iIUKh)

282 -
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If someone is socking the troll, don't. It's a Bad Idea.


Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM

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That's how we used to have the most fun with them.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (pMGkg)

283 261 Yeah, imagine those polls after four or five weeks of non stop ads with the Dem nominee saying we should pay for illegals' healthcare and whatever other bat shit stuff fell out of their pie holes.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (jp0Bv)

Yeah, that is why I wonder if the polls are serving a more intelligent purpose than Swallwell's public flatulence. I always wonder if there is a fairly savvy dude out there trying to use the polls to actually shape the way the dems push their message so they are more appealing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (ycWCI)

284 Usually the first sign is something like pain, or smoke.

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Or last name of Biden.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (sX1BW)

285 Ive tasted my own cum.

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (5YQEt)

286 Is Eubonics a language??
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)
++++++++++++
I think Eubonics' official name is "Esperanto."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (I2dne)
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Anything to do with Eubie Blake?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (3Z6pZ)

287 Denial.... is the first sign of a problem.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (8XRCm)


I thought it was a river in Egypt?

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (9gDA7)

288 271 Paul Sperry @paulsperry_
33m
BREAKING: In impeachment testimony today, Fiona Hill acknowledged that Ukrainian officials "bet" on Hillary winning in 2016 & tried to "curry favor" w her & at the same time said "hurtful" things about Trump--i.e., interference--that he would understandably be "aggrieved" by now
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (BqBId)
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I don't know what Hill considers "meddling" but that sure meets my definition.

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (G0vdT)

289 I am not a troll.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:47 PM (pMGkg)

======

Exactly what a troll would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (q80AH)

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Denial.... is the first sign of a problem.
Posted by: fixerupper


It's not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (kDUUX)

290 271 Paul Sperry @paulsperry_
33m
BREAKING: In impeachment testimony today, Fiona Hill acknowledged that Ukrainian officials "bet" on Hillary winning in 2016 & tried to "curry favor" w her & at the same time said "hurtful" things about Trump--i.e., interference--that he would understandably be "aggrieved" by now
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (BqBId)

she also talked about other EU allies doing the same thing.

But that she had seen NO retribution about it from Trump, even though he knew about it.

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (NgKpN)

291 268 Systemic trollism. You don't even know you're a troll.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM (koNhm)

Troll privilege.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (ycWCI)

292 Not everyone is enamored by the English accent
Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (rpxSz)
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Which one? There are quite a few of them.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (3Z6pZ)

293 Yes!!! You otter do that!!

Posted by: fixerupper


I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM



But...we only know like a dozen jokes total and three of them are Knock Knock jokes.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (axyOa)

294 I like to fuck mysister in the mouth like daddy does with auntie.

Posted by: Lock Him Up in the ass at November 21, 2019 02:55 PM (5YQEt)

295 It's not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (kDUUX)

It's also a river in Ethiopia and Sudan.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 02:55 PM (O+iVW)

296 If someone is socking the troll, don't. It's a Bad Idea.


Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM

do not sock REDACTED

he's an a-hole

Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 02:55 PM (rpxSz)

297 If someone is socking the troll, don't. It's a Bad Idea.



Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:51 PM

It seems to me that trolls homoerotic posts are being "translated" into even more perverse posts directed at himself a la MUMR or some other prior troll.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (1CjJc)

298 It's not just a river in Egypt.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (kDUUX)


LOL! I beat you to it.

Posted by: Sponge at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (9gDA7)

299 Trollbalist culture.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (iIUKh)

300 But...we only know like a dozen jokes total and three of them are Knock Knock jokes.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (axyOa)
+++++++++++++
Knock. Knock.
Who's there?
An angry, armed man.
An angry, armed man who?
An angry, armed man who doesn't like to be bothered.
...
See ya later!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (I2dne)

301 I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM

Um, welcome to AOSHQ, Mirror Universe visitor!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (ycWCI)

302 272 Yes!!! You otter do that!!

Posted by: fixerupper


I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (d7Ww2)

That is not who we are.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (NWiLs)

303 Cob re-editing the troll's comments in real time. Priceless.
Posted by: Muldoon


Bestest one evah!

MUMR:
I braid my pubes because....pretty.


I liked to wrecked my damn truck laughing when I read that.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (kDUUX)

304 Do the Dems want to win the White House in 2020, or are they just trying to damage Trump, so when he wins, he won't be able to do anything?

I'm pretty sure as of right now, they don't believe they will win. Looking at it from that perspective, their actions today seem fairly logical.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (hku12)
++++++++++++++
I think the past three years has demonstrated that the permanent state bureaucracy has so much power, influence and can play kingmaker in so many areas through either cooperation or obstruction that they may not care about the White House nearly as much as they used to.

I think they want to win, but I am not at all sure that they view it as an imperative.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:50 PM (I2dne)


Could be. And maybe that's what we're fighting for right now: the question as to whether the President can make policy and/or hire and fire his own Administration team.

The professionals are betting he can't.

This might be, as they say, for all the marbles right here.

Honestly, I think we knew that 3-4 years ago, when he started on this road. We're seeing it play out almost exactly as expected.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (hku12)

305 Troll fragility.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 02:56 PM (ycWCI)

306 I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten



Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM







But...we only know like a dozen jokes total and three of them are Knock Knock jokes.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (axyOa)

Orange you glad we did not use the banana joke?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (1CjJc)

307 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (I4LC2)

308 Witness also said that Russia's main goal in the election tampering, was to weaken ANYONE who won.

Which means the Dems are COLLUDING with Russia, by weakening the President on foreign policy, by making the world believe he is about to be impeached.

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (NgKpN)

309 @LLinWood 5 minutes ago

As predicted, today Judge Bertelsman entered an order allowing the Nicholas Sandmann case against NBCUniversal to proceed to discovery just as he had earlier ruled with respect to WaPo & CNN cases. Huge, huge win!

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (cF8AT)

310 Yes!!! You otter do that!!

Posted by: fixerupper


I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten
Posted by: nurse ratched



Yes!!! You otter do that!!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (kDUUX)

311 Schiff overlsold it like It was a one-sized grand jury presentation. So now the Left and Media is in a frenzy to Impeach

Tables will turn in a Senate trial that gets into whistleblower origins, Biden corruption and Ukraine 2016

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (C0Xny)

312 I thought repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten


*******

You misspelled de rigueur

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (m45I2)

313 Well, I apparently missed a lot.

Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (UnA8+)

314 Lin Wood @LLinWood
5m
As predicted, today Judge Bertelsman entered an order allowing the Nicholas Sandmann case against NBCUniversal to proceed to discovery just as he had earlier ruled with respect to WaPo & CNN cases. Huge, huge win!

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (BqBId)

315 Orange you glad we did not use the banana joke?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (1CjJc)
+++++++++++++
BREAKING: Orange Man eats bananas. Bananas to be banned from school lunches and press cafeterias. Banana stocks crash but then mysteriously rally to all-time highs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (I2dne)

316 308 Witness also said that Russia's main goal in the election tampering, was to weaken ANYONE who won.

Which means the Dems are COLLUDING with Russia, by weakening the President on foreign policy, by making the world believe he is about to be impeached.
Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (NgKpN)

=========

That's been obvious for 3 years.

It's in Putin's interest that America not be strong enough to counter Russia.

It would help if American had a president dedicate to killing fracking, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (q80AH)

317 Troll-normativity.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (pMGkg)

318

Knock. Knock.
Who's there?
An angry, armed man.
An angry, armed man who?
An angry, armed man who doesn't like to be bothered.

------

Wait... wut???

THEN DONT COME KNOCKING ON *MY* DOOR........DICK.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (8XRCm)

319 306 I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten



Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM







But...we only know like a dozen jokes total and three of them are Knock Knock jokes.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (axyOa)

Orange you glad we did not use the banana joke?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (1CjJc)

I thought repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten!

Posted by: Amy Shumer... at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (NgKpN)

320 So, todays witness basically boils down to?

President didn't like the Ambassador, because of a smear campaign, so sent Rudy to Ukraine because they did not trust the ambassador.

And it pissed off 'the Professionals'
Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 02:49 PM (NgKpN)
**************
Lesson learned... the Deep State is really deep and they are still in place to leak to the press and sabotage Trump. Trump should hire James O'Keefe's people to infiltrate and snuff out the saboteurs.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (wiXsO)

321 I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten

The repeating joke was played by Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (ZGrMX)

322 307 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC


I double dog darer you to stand up and change the channel!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (d7Ww2)

323 They'll still do it. All they know how to do is double down.

Posted by: Quilp at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (Fxgkp)

324 @NewsBreaking 1 minute ago

BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (cF8AT)

325 The House passed the Senate version of the Hong Kong bill, which has now gone to President Trump for signing (there's no indication that he intends to veto it at this time). While the House version of the bill was unopposed during its vote, the Senate version had one vote against it in the House - Congressman Massie (KY-R). I haven't seen any information about why he voted against it. Does anyone know why Massie opposed the bill?

Posted by: junior at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (sPbXm)

326 I'll look for Troll's novel when it comes out. Working title: "The Aristocrats."

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (koNhm)

327 Go home BSG, you're drunk

Posted by: josephistan at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (7HtZB)

328 As predicted, today Judge Bertelsman entered an order allowing the Nicholas Sandmann case against NBCUniversal to proceed to discovery just as he had earlier ruled with respect to WaPo & CNN cases. Huge, huge win!
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (cF8AT)
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Discovery. Yum yum yum.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (3Z6pZ)

329 "Polls say..." huh? C'mon ace, why play this game? These polls are the ongokng academic equivalent of this entire impeachment charade.

Posted by: Mark Costine at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (etv5d)

330 As far as I see the troll is the same hash

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (ZCEU2)

331 LOL! I beat you to it.
Posted by: Sponge


GMTA!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (kDUUX)

332 292 Not everyone is enamored by the English accent
Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (rpxSz)
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Which one? There are quite a few of them.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (3Z6p

funny tho, in all the trips

being identified as an American

no one ask me from what part

cause we all sound alike

Kant even

Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (rpxSz)

333
BREAKING: Orange Man eats bananas. Bananas to be banned from school lunches and press cafeterias. Banana stocks crash but then mysteriously rally to all-time highs.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (I2dne

-------

Honestly - I hate the living shit out of Diet Coke. Disgusting!

But I may give it a try, just to see if the it's the tonic that imbues Orangemanbad with Dragon Energy.

Though, I suspect he mainlines tiger blood.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (AzW6q)

334 272 I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:52 PM (d7Ww2)

-Fish Puns
-It's No Rothko

Verboten, or Way of Life?

Posted by: Allie at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (UnA8+)

335 SANDRA BULLOCK is running for PRESIDENT!!??!?? Why isn't she 50 points ahead?!?

Posted by: Flyover EDKH at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (Rbu5d)

336 -
--

I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten


--
The repeating joke was played by Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM

--------------

I thought he played the volcano.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (pMGkg)

337 I thought repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten, esse!

Posted by: Carlos Mencia at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

338 All polls are still meaningless at this point, especially until the LV (likely voter) models are used . Big difference from RV (registered voter) model by a 3-5% margin, typically.

Posted by: theATL at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (yFgwo)

339 As predicted, today Judge Bertelsman entered an order allowing the Nicholas Sandmann case against NBCUniversal to proceed to discovery just as he had earlier ruled with respect to WaPo & CNN cases. Huge, huge win!
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (BqBId)
++++++++++++
Bertlesman isn't related to European Bertelsmann operators, I hope. The last person we need involved in overseeing this case is someone related to a mass-media titan overseas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (I2dne)

340 Not everyone is enamored by the English accent
Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 02:53 PM (rpxSz)
-------------
Which one? There are quite a few of them.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 02:54 PM (3Z6pZ)


I treat English accents the same way I do Hispanics. I know there's more than one. I know you're not all the same. But if you are Scottish, I'm going to say "hey, I like your English accent," just like if you are Guatemalan, I'm going to say "oh, you Mexicans sure are nice."

Why?

Because, that's why.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (hku12)

341 "Extinction Rebellion protesters take over Pelosi's office. Threaten hunger Strike: "



The response is clear:

Board up the doors and windows, wait 30 days.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (JwHjN)

342 322 307 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC


I double dog darer you to stand up and change the channel!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (d7Ww2)

She said it. Even double dogged it. Now you have to do it. It's in the AoSHQ penumbras of our bylaws.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (O+iVW)

343 Wait... wut???

THEN DONT COME KNOCKING ON *MY* DOOR........DICK.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (8XRCm)
++++++++++++
Yeah, that one blew up on me badly.

:: hangs head in shame and wanders off ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (I2dne)

344 322 307 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC


I double dog darer you to stand up and change the channel!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (d7Ww2)

Hmmm, mild breach of dare etiquette but I'll allow it.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (NWiLs)

345 BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO
*******
Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (BqBId)

346 I was told this was to be an audition for the role of Cruella DeVille.

Posted by: Fiona Hill at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (WQZ1O)

347 Toilet backed up in bathroom 116...thread janitor to bathroom 116 please

Posted by: Boswell at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (32YRo)

348 321 I though repeating jokes on the HQ was verboten

The repeating joke was played by Brian Dennehy.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (ZGrMX)

Brian Dennehy gets shirts!

The entire island of Taiwan has been working for years.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (ycWCI)

349 I'm beginning to think DC doesn't like Donny Two-Scoops:

@NewsBreaking

BREAKING: Lawyers for the House Oversight Committee have reportedly asked the Supreme Court to allow it to obtain eight years of President Trump's financial records - The Hill

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (1Vobx)

350 Trollgendered.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (iIUKh)

351 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC


I double dog darer you to stand up and change the channel!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (d7Ww2)

-------

Ooooh, you better do it! What... are you chicken?

Bawk bawk. Bawk bawk bawk. BAAAAWK!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (AzW6q)

352 But if you are Scottish, I'm going to say "hey, I like your English accent,"
------
That's probably earn you a boot to the groin right quick.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (3Z6pZ)

353 THEN DONT COME KNOCKING ON *MY* DOOR
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (8XRCm)


I hope you were humming along when you typed that

Posted by: Stevie Nicks at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (NVYyb)

354 well what does the bill actually do? What was that line about "how many divisions does he have?"

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (n13/j)

355 >>As far as I see the troll is the same hash

Cause you aren't seeing the ones who are no longer with us.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

356 @NewsBreaking 1 minute ago

BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (cF8AT)


Isn't that sorta like saying "Judge agrees a trial should be held, if the prosecutor indicts?"

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (hku12)

357 weird huh -

Chuck Ross
@ChuckRossDC
·
1h
A couple of people on Fox accused Vindman of having a dual loyalty, and Schiff is turning it into a major scandal. Meanwhile, someone in the Ukrainian government asked Vindman 3 times if he wanted to be Ukraine's defense minister, and nobody seems to care.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (/ZYFC)

358 351
I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.



Posted by: IC





I double dog darer you to stand up and change the channel!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (d7Ww2)



-------



Ooooh, you better do it! What... are you chicken?



Bawk bawk. Bawk bawk bawk. BAAAAWK!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (AzW6q)

Everyone is doing it. You won't be cool if you don't/

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (1CjJc)

359 Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (1Vobx)
*********
you haven't paid attention have you?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (BqBId)

360 Troll supremecist.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (ycWCI)

361
Yeah, that one blew up on me badly.

:: hangs head in shame and wanders off ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (I2dne)

-----

DANG.... Im laughing so hard the office gal asked if Im ok....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (8XRCm)

362 I'm not the troll

Posted by: TROLL at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (rpxSz)

363 352
But if you are Scottish, I'm going to say "hey, I like your English accent,"

------

That's probably earn you a boot to the groin right quick.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (3Z6pZ)
And it's not really an accent with them, more like they can't be arsed to knock the dicks out of their mouths.

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (14URa)

364 >>As far as I see the troll is the same hash

Cause you aren't seeing the ones who are no longer with us.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (ZLI7S)

......

And if anyone knows about hash.....

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 03:04 PM (iIUKh)

365 Troll supremecist.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (ycWCI)
+++++++++++
Troll: Supreme-cyst

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:04 PM (I2dne)

366 I think basically that's the law if the House votes for impeachment, The Turtle said that. But the Senate gets to start all over calling whomever they think has the information to convict or not the President. And Schiffty has not a word to say about it.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (ZCEU2)

367 307 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC
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hehe.. C-SPAN has changed their heading to Key Capitol Hill hearings.. and CBS has foregone showing them at all.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (lwKRt)

368 Troll
No
Kill
I

Posted by: Horta, looking for love in all the wrong places at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (ycWCI)

369 THEN DONT COME KNOCKING ON *MY* DOOR

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 02:58 PM (8XRCm)


I think it goes, "Don't come knocking on my back door"
Not my favorite song.

Posted by: Surprise Anal Otters at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (NVYyb)

370 360 Troll supremecist.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (ycWCI)

Troll ultimatum.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (qEujL)

371 And Schiffty has not a word to say about it.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (ZCEU2)
Well, sure he will. Just not on the Senate floor. Trust me, he will have plenty to say.

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (14URa)

372 OK, so Vindman, who was a Lead on Ukraine, was born in the Soviet Union.

Hill, who testified today? Had a Brit (?) Accent?

Only became a US citizen in 2002?

Why are foreigners running our Foreign Policy?

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN)

373 Troll Life, yo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (ycWCI)

374 IF Emerson is anywhere near accurate, post-acquittal Trump will be unstoppable if this indeed is reflective of how people feel after two weeks of televised bashing of POTUS. And to the extent anyone has watched this crap, these Deep State parasites are absolutely repellent on many levels.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (iw59Q)

375 Honestly - I hate the living shit out of Diet Coke. Disgusting!

But I may give it a try, just to see if the it's the tonic that imbues Orangemanbad with Dragon Energy.

Though, I suspect he mainlines tiger blood.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:00 PM (AzW6q)


I don't understand why the same company that makes Coke Zero, also makes Diet Coke.

The former tastes like Coke. The latter tastes like ass.

Same reason Hollowwood makes shitty remakes and the music industrial complex sells Just In Beever and Tail Her Swift records, I guess.

Cuz people are stoopid and buy the garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (hku12)

376 Troll
No
Kill
I
Posted by: Horta, looking for love in all the wrong places at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (ycWCI)

I already said I wouldn't. Didn't you hear me?

Posted by: A Who at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (/sgva)

377 This hearing needs Emma Sulkowicz. She and her mattress could bring some additional dimension to the entertainment value of the hearing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (NVYyb)

378 Troll supremecist.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM (ycWCI)

Troll ultimatum.
Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (qEujL)
---------
Troll the ancient Yuletide carol.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (3Z6pZ)

379 Why are foreigners running our Foreign Policy?
Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN)
-----------

Good question.

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (G0vdT)

380 Lead or Lede?

I always see 'lead' and think of the stuff Joey Biden eats.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (ycWCI)

381 A SEISMIC 30-point swing among independents,
.........

BOMBSHELL

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (v0R5T)

382 I find Diet Coke quite enticing when mixed half & half with Canadian Club.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (qEujL)

383 I think basically that's the law if the House votes for impeachment, The Turtle said that. But the Senate gets to start all over calling whomever they think has the information to convict or not the President. And Schiffty has not a word to say about it.
Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 03:05 PM (ZCEU2)


When Clitton was impeached, the Senate basically didn't call anybody. They just voted and were done with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (hku12)

384 Redneck Manhattan.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (qEujL)

385 Why are foreigners running our Foreign Policy?

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN)

-----------



Good question.

Posted by: WisRich at November 21, 2019 03:07 PM (G0vdT)

it is called foreign policy. Duh

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (n13/j)

386 The Deep State has the emotional maturity of toddlers along with the self-control.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (hLRSq)

387 This post must be classy, it has a bar graph and everything.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (ycWCI)

388 367 The Young and the Restless is more interesting, and more factually true.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (PQRcz)

389 Someone call Al Franken. We're going to need his Buick.

Posted by: The DNC at November 21, 2019 02:10 PM (uGHnY)


Yeah, y'all can't even afford a rental car. According to Drudge (yeah I finally weakened and gave the place a quick scan today), the DNC is $7 million in debt.

Heh. Heh. Heh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (Z4rgH)

390 I don't understand why the same company that makes Coke Zero, also makes Diet Coke.

The former tastes like Coke. The latter tastes like ass.

Same reason Hollowwood makes shitty remakes and the music industrial complex sells Just In Beever and Tail Her Swift records, I guess.

Cuz people are stoopid and buy the garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (hku12)

Diet Coke has been around a lot longer than Coke Zero. Some people claim to like it.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (O+iVW)

391 Guess that's why it's called "Foreign Policy", a bunch of goddamned foreigners running it, eh?

Posted by: Common Tater at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (NqaQ9)

392
I find Diet Coke quite enticing when mixed half & half with Canadian Club.
Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (qEujL)

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A baby seal walks into a bar.

Bartender says "what'll it be?"

Seal replies " Anything but a Canadian Club on the rocks."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (AzW6q)

393 If you kant get Hurd

you are a turd

Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (rpxSz)

394 -
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I don't understand why the same company that makes Coke Zero, also makes Diet Coke.



The former tastes like Coke. The latter tastes like ass.



Same reason Hollowwood makes shitty remakes and the music industrial
complex sells Just In Beever and Tail Her Swift records, I guess.



Cuz people are stoopid and buy the garbage.


Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM

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Probably one of those cilantro/soap things. Must be enough people out there with the opposite opinion.

Posted by: irright at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (pMGkg)

395 I find Diet Coke quite enticing when mixed half half with Canadian Club.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (qEujL)

shall I offer real coke and Wild Turkey as an alternative?

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (n13/j)

396 I Love This Bar-Graph (2017)

Posted by: Toby Keith at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (gh1GI)

397 364 Two snares and a cymbal

Posted by: monkey at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (CLteG)

398 Don Q - because our Communists are newbies at it and really don't have a good feel for what it takes to really run a country into the ground.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (ZCEU2)

399 Why are foreigners running our Foreign Policy?

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN)


Just doing the betrayals that Americans won't do.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (hLRSq)

400
Diet Dr Pepper > Diet Coke

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (8XRCm)

401 Diet Coke has been around a lot longer than Coke Zero. Some people claim to like it.


Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (O+iVW)

I like it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (1CjJc)

402 The thing with polls regarding Trump. I think many people are afraid to publicly admit they support him.
I mean, shit, look at how they treat people with MAGA hats or just folks trying to have a nice dinner. You have no idea who these people are that are calling. Might be paranoia but how the left treats political opponents these days? I sure as hell wouldn't want them to know anything about me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (U7cQ/)

403 I suspect the WH does not want to be impeached. That would be a win to not be impeached.

But if he is impeached, then he sorta wants a full Senate trial to call whomever he wants - rather than a quick acquittal by the Senate.

Now that doesn't mean he should favor that over a quick acquittal. You never know where this could go with a full Senate trial.

But either Trump is trying to goad them into impeaching him, or make them bluff or back down.

Either way, I don't think he really cares one way or the other.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (sX1BW)

404 If typical polling is showing Trump with a lead, any lead at all, it's a big lead.

Posted by: Jay Wiz at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (+0hoN)

405 He's part of the Trolletariat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (94pMa)

406 shall I offer real coke and Wild Turkey as an alternative?
Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (n13/j)

Indeed you shall! Wait a minute--I'll go rob a bank.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (qEujL)

407 "372 OK, so Vindman, who was a Lead on Ukraine, was born in the Soviet Union.

Hill, who testified today? Had a Brit (?) Accent?

Only became a US citizen in 2002?

Why are foreigners running our Foreign Policy?

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN) "




The traitors already in place can't find enough native-born American traitors to hire ?

Just like H-1B's.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (JwHjN)

408 Pelosi can't allow this to come to a vote. If she does, her loons won't support her moderates if they vote no, but if they vote Yes they lose the support of the middle in their districts. If it goes to trial in the Senate, all their schemes will be exposed under Cocaine Mitch's trial rules and Trump will be acquitted with at least a few Dem votes. It's a lose/lose/lose/lose. She will, "for the good of the country" call the president a criminal and call a vote for censure and "let the American people decide" via election 2020.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (87EdW)

409 >>real coke and Wild Turkey as an alternative?


That's a TON of sugar...

and what did that poor Turkey ever do to you?

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (gh1GI)

410 400
Diet Dr Pepper > Diet Coke
Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (8XRCm)

Dr Pepper: 21 flavors- all of them ass.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (ycWCI)

411 401 Diet Coke has been around a lot longer than Coke Zero. Some people claim to like it.


Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (O+iVW)

I like it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (1CjJc)

I employ the term people broadly.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (O+iVW)

412 What about Tab? That stuff is rough.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (PQRcz)

413 If only Sondland hadn't given that confusing, mess of a testimony yesterday, then I'd be convinced impeachment was dead. With censure a substitute. But Sondland gave them enough on suspicion of a quid pro quo to remain faithful and impeach.. but the moderate district dems are dreading that vote.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (Xqo6t)

414 The Young and the Restless is more interesting, and more factually true.
Posted by: rammajamma



Victor, dude, at 3,051 episodes, it's time to retire.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (kDUUX)

415 These polls were from before Sondland proved the quid pro quo. The next polls will be telling...

Posted by: No at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (3Cx/I)

416 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

--

Hardly anything more abysmal than being subjected to the dreaded waiting room TV in medical facilities. They all seem to have them now. Either it's some wretched made-for-doctors-offices "health" program, or it's network news.

Considering how completely and deeply divided America seems to be, it would behoove these places to leave the "news" channels OFF. You're going to just irritate people.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (JoUsr)

417 I don't understand why the same company that makes Coke Zero, also makes Diet Coke.

The former tastes like Coke. The latter tastes like ass.

Same reason Hollowwood makes shitty remakes and the music industrial complex sells Just In Beever and Tail Her Swift records, I guess.

Cuz people are stoopid and buy the garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (hku12)
+++++++++++
I'm a Coke Zero guy. No enthusiasm for Diet Coke.

But Diet Coke has been around for a long time and it has its own flavor. There are people who genuinely like Diet Coke - I know some of them. They don't like Coke Zero as much *because* it tastes more like the real thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (I2dne)

418 Trolligarchy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (ycWCI)

419 BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO
*******
This is a threat to Dems to shove impeachment up their asses and make them eat it backwards.

Took awhile, but I finally have to agree with James Madison - this really doesn't appear to be making it to a formal vote - maybe a censor of Trump can get to a vote instead - maybe.

Posted by: Boswell at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (32YRo)

420 The Trollenberg Terror

Posted by: Crawling Eye at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (aKsyK)

421 -
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If you kant get Hurd

you are a turd


Posted by: REDACTED at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM

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Try Viugru.

Posted by: Bob Dole at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (pMGkg)

422 I find Diet Coke quite enticing when mixed half half with Canadian Club.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:08 PM (qEujL)

shall I offer real coke and Wild Turkey as an alternative?
Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM

If you are low carbing it, real Coke is out. I like Diet Coke with Splenda myself, and a good spiced rum.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (U7cQ/)

423 BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO
*******
Be careful of what you wish for, you just might get it
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at November 21, 2019 03:01 PM (BqBId)


Oops! Ok, now I get it. If the House impeaches, Mitch is gonna do the whole thing. With witnesses.

So yeah, no. That doesn't sound like something the Dems would want, and presumably didn't consider. They were expecting Mitch to just vote and be done.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (hku12)

424 Why are all y'all drinking coke in any form? All soda is bad for you! God gave us beer for a reason . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (14URa)

425 412 What about Tab? That stuff is rough.
Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (PQRcz)

Dude, Tab is THE ORIGINAL. I suppose you don't like Sanka either.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (qEujL)

426 >>real coke and Wild Turkey as an alternative?


That's a TON of sugar...

and what did that poor Turkey ever do to you?
Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (gh1GI)

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I no longer drink.

But when I did..... I would NEVER dilute the wholesome goodness of Wild Turkey with anything.

Maybe ice.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (8XRCm)

427 shall I offer real coke and Wild Turkey as an alternative?
Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:09 PM (n13/j)
+++++++++++
Yes, please.

In addition, please add two ice cubes and hold the coke.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (I2dne)

428 The Troll Witch Project

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (ycWCI)

429 A million years ago loved Canadian Club in Canada Dry, but the next morning it was like you ate the Sahara desert the night before.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (ZCEU2)

430 Feed me. I'm the one near the door.

Posted by: Weinstein's Fiscus at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (Y274z)

431 @NewsBreaking 1 minute ago

BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (cF8AT)


Isn't that sorta like saying "Judge agrees a trial should be held, if the prosecutor indicts?"
Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:03 PM


Honest question...

Why would the Dems actually want to have a full blown Senate trial, with rules of procedure, real calling and questioning of witnesses, etc.?

How would all of the facts coming out in a trial that the whole country would be watching, hurt PDT more than it would hurt them?

Maybe I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how this works well for them.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (ejd/p)

432 Tab > 8 day old coffee with mold forming on the surface

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (94pMa)

433 Victor will go out in a box.

Posted by: rammajamma at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (PQRcz)

434 I don't understand why the same company that makes Coke Zero, also makes Diet Coke.

The former tastes like Coke. The latter tastes like ass.

Same reason Hollowwood makes shitty remakes and the music industrial complex sells Just In Beever and Tail Her Swift records, I guess.

Cuz people are stoopid and buy the garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (hku12)

Diet Coke has been around a lot longer than Coke Zero. Some people claim to like it.
Posted by: Someguy

_____________

I agree, I actually love Coke Zero, Diet Coke is nasty. If that's the only option, I try to put like some lemonade in it at the soda fountain.

I just don't like drinking regular Coke, way too many carbs and calories, I lost like 15 pounds just switching in my 20s.

"Dr Pepper 10" is actually REALLY good if you can find it at the grocery store, it's not Diet Dr Pepper, it only has "10" calories but is almost a dead ringer for real Dr. Pepper.

Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (qqbvc)

435 Dude, Tab is THE ORIGINAL. I suppose you don't like Sanka either.
Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (qEujL)

Get off my lawn, sonny.
-Postum

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (ycWCI)

436 >>In addition, please add two ice cubes and hold the coke.


And don't forget the Pink Umbrella this time!

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (gh1GI)

437 Took awhile, but I finally have to agree with James Madison - this really doesn't appear to be making it to a formal vote - maybe a censor of Trump can get to a vote instead - maybe.

--------------

Wait until you see the next witness.

Posted by: SH at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (sX1BW)

438 Dude, Tab is THE ORIGINAL. I suppose you don't like Sanka either.
Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (qEujL)
+++++++++++
Sanka is the kind of coffee they served on the Titanic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (I2dne)

439
351 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC


I double dog darer you to stand up and change the channel!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (d7Ww2)

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Ooooh, you better do it! What... are you chicken?

Bawk bawk. Bawk bawk bawk. BAAAAWK!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:02 PM (AzW6q)
*************
CNN is not good for your health.
Seriously, not counting airports, I never put up with CNN on the channel at any business I frequent. They either change the channel or lose my business.
And I'm not an ass about. They always comply.

JUST DO IT!

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (wiXsO)

440 I don't understand why the same company that makes Coke Zero, also makes Diet Coke.

The former tastes like Coke. The latter tastes like ass.

Same reason Hollowwood makes shitty remakes and the music industrial complex sells Just In Beever and Tail Her Swift records, I guess.

Cuz people are stoopid and buy the garbage.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:06 PM (hku12)
+++++++++++
I'm a Coke Zero guy. No enthusiasm for Diet Coke.

But Diet Coke has been around for a long time and it has its own flavor. There are people who genuinely like Diet Coke - I know some of them. They don't like Coke Zero as much *because* it tastes more like the real thing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (I2dne)


I think that's grounds for declaring someone legally insane.

Good lord, if there was only Diet Coke, I would drink water.

And what a world that would be.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (hku12)

441 Considering how completely and deeply divided America seems to be, it would behoove these places to leave the "news" channels OFF. You're going to just irritate people.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (JoUsr)


I never put up with it. I simply inform the receptionist that I find the television content offensive and that I will leave unless it's turned off. It works every time.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (TdMsT)

442 404 If typical polling is showing Trump with a lead, any lead at all, it's a big lead.
Posted by: Jay Wiz at November 21, 2019 03:10 PM (+0hoN)

Yup, because of the 'Fear of being outed as a Trump supporter' factor, Polls have CONSISTANTLY been about 6 points off on anything Trump.

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (NgKpN)

443 Do you think Nanzi spends part of every afternoon in her office wailing and ripping things off the walls? This impeachment crap is just eating away at the Democrats election chances.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (NVYyb)

444 Maybe ice.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 21, 2019 03:12 PM (8XRCm)
So, I moved to the heartland a couple years ago. Figured it was total beer country. Nope, lots of oenophiles here. Rose wine from the fridge with ice cubes seems to be the swanky way to go here. I'm just fuckin' gobsmacked. Not sure I've ever seen anyone drink "rose" wine, but the ice cubes, it's keeping me awake nights.

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (14URa)

445 how 'bout a Fresca!

Posted by: Judge Smails at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (n13/j)

446 I'm at the doctors and stuck with CNN and the stupid impeachment hearing.

Posted by: IC at November 21, 2019 02:57 PM (I4LC2)
..........

If your blood pressure is up you'll know why.

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

447 Sanka is the kind of coffee they served on the Titanic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (I2dne)

Well at least they all got a good night's sleep!

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (qEujL)

448 Cause you aren't seeing the ones who are no longer with us.
Posted by: JackStraw

Hey, you mind if I steal that from ya, buddy?

Posted by: Yogi Berra at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (z1DPh)

449 Hardly anything more abysmal than being subjected to the dreaded waiting room TV in medical facilities. They all seem to have them now. Either it's some wretched made-for-doctors-offices "health" program, or it's network news.

Considering how completely and deeply divided America seems to be, it would behoove these places to leave the "news" channels OFF. You're going to just irritate people.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 03:11 PM (JoUsr)

The eye clinic where I had my cataract surgery done runs some sort of channel of wild animal videos. See the cuddly meerkats, etc. Not a bad idea.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (/sgva)

450 Ask not for whom the cuck trolls, he trolls for thee.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (94pMa)

451 Mehmed Kropulu once had 60,000 high-ranking officials strangled to death in an effort to curb corruption. Trump could use a man like that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (AzW6q)

452 So, I moved to the heartland a couple years ago. Figured it was total beer country. Nope, lots of oenophiles here. Rose wine from the fridge with ice cubes seems to be the swanky way to go here. I'm just fuckin' gobsmacked. Not sure I've ever seen anyone drink "rose" wine, but the ice cubes, it's keeping me awake nights.
Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (14URa)
++++++++++++
I have never met a rose I liked. Rose is white wine that failed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (I2dne)

453 ok, that is the second time i have socked Judge Smails in this session. i think it is time for a break.

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (n13/j)

454 -
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Cause you aren't seeing the ones who are no longer with us.

Posted by: JackStraw



Hey, you mind if I steal that from ya, buddy?


Posted by: Yogi Berra at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM

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Pretty sure that's mine.

Posted by: Stalin at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (pMGkg)

455 I used to have to put Diet Coke in the Cooler for clients.

Then, they wouldn't drink it.

If I just put Cokes in there, which I had always preferred to any beverage, they'd ask 'No Diet?'.

So. Diet went in. And I'd end up drinking it because it was all there was at the end of the day.

Now I can't tolerate a regular Coke. Sad.

Posted by: garrett at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (gh1GI)

456 I think that's grounds for declaring someone legally insane.

Good lord, if there was only Diet Coke, I would drink water.

And what a world that would be.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (hku12)

I drink water, and no alcohol. It's not so bad.

Posted by: Someguy at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (O+iVW)

457 It's weird, once I got used to diet coke etc. regular soda is too sweet for me. (I only have one a day with lunch) I do like DC Splenda and the diet Pepsi version. But once and a while in the summer on a hot day, an ice cold grape or orange crush! out of a bottle MMMMM

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 03:16 PM (U7cQ/)

458 456 I think that's grounds for declaring someone legally insane.

No, that would be Starbucks.

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:16 PM (qEujL)

459 I just love that it's snowing moderately - just enough to build up - leading up to my major road trip.

Not happy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)

460 Honest question...

Why would the Dems actually want to have a full blown Senate trial, with rules of procedure, real calling and questioning of witnesses, etc.?

How would all of the facts coming out in a trial that the whole country would be watching, hurt PDT more than it would hurt them?

Maybe I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how this works well for them.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState



It doesn't. They never thought it would get this far. Nancy has lost control of the Dems.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (kDUUX)

461 New poll says 67% of CNN viewers thinks Ukraine is the center of the universe.

Posted by: wth at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

462 Trollenberg and Rosencrantz are dead.

And Epstein.

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (M0u+N)

463 459
I just love that it's snowing moderately - just enough to build up - leading up to my major road trip.



Not happy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:16 PM (I2dne)
Well, fuck.

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (14URa)

464 457 It's weird, once I got used to diet coke etc. regular soda is too sweet for me. (I only have one a day with lunch) I do like DC Splenda and the diet Pepsi version. But once and a while in the summer on a hot day, an ice cold grape or orange crush! out of a bottle MMMMM
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 03:16 PM (U7cQ/)

Regular soda is insanely sweet, we just get used to it. They are essentially liquefied candy bars.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (ycWCI)

465 nood

Posted by: eleven at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (M0u+N)

466 Not sure I've ever seen anyone drink "rose" wine, but the ice cubes, it's keeping me awake nights.
Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:14 PM (14URa)
++++++++++++
I have never met a rose I liked. Rose is white wine that failed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (I2dne)

for YEARS my Father drank a couple of glasses of wine with dinner, every night.

Came in a big Jug, called Vino Primo.

cracks me up to this day.

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (NgKpN)

467 Really the hearing are just a political fart. If you want the farting to stop then vote him out.

They do not fear losing the house.

And look out below if they get the Senate.

Posted by: Weinstein's Fiscus at November 21, 2019 03:18 PM (Y274z)

468 130 I would totally do Scarlett Johansen without make-up.
Posted by: eleven

I hear ya. My wife told me it gives her the creeps when I wear make-up to bed.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 21, 2019 03:18 PM (kfcYC)

469 >>Well, fuck.
Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (14URa)

Creative solution!

Posted by: Caliban at November 21, 2019 03:18 PM (qEujL)

470 Mehmed Kropulu once had 60,000 high-ranking officials strangled to death in an effort to curb corruption. Trump could use a man like that.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:15 PM (AzW6q)
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Bowstring stocks would go up.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 21, 2019 03:18 PM (3Z6pZ)

471 Reminds me of mu safari in Africa. Someone forgot the corkscrew. We had to survive for days on only food and water - W.C. Fields.

Posted by: Quint at November 21, 2019 03:19 PM (n13/j)

472 Came in a big Jug, called Vino Primo.



cracks me up to this day.

Posted by: Don Q at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (NgKpN)
I meant no disrespect to any Italian person, living or dead, with my comment.

Posted by: Peaches at November 21, 2019 03:19 PM (14URa)

473 I agree, I actually love Coke Zero, Diet Coke is nasty. If that's the only option, I try to put like some lemonade in it at the soda fountain.

I just don't like drinking regular Coke, way too many carbs and calories, I lost like 15 pounds just switching in my 20s.

"Dr Pepper 10" is actually REALLY good if you can find it at the grocery store, it's not Diet Dr Pepper, it only has "10" calories but is almost a dead ringer for real Dr. Pepper.
Posted by: Blago at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (qqbvc)


Yup, Doc 10 (as I like to call it) is the real deal.

Since moving to this here town, I kinda forgot it existed.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 21, 2019 03:19 PM (hku12)

474 Regular soda is insanely sweet, we just get used to it. They are essentially liquefied candy bars.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM

I used to get mad at the drive thru if they gave me diet, now it's the other way around. I will splurge once and a while. Oh I forgot. Vernors ginger ale in a bottle, ice cold. Yes!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2019 03:19 PM (U7cQ/)

475 I like my coffee like my women.

Ground up and stored in my freezer.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 21, 2019 03:19 PM (94pMa)

476 I never put up with it. I simply inform the receptionist that I find the television content offensive and that I will leave unless it's turned off. It works every time.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 21, 2019 03:13 PM (TdMsT)

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WTG, Ladyl! I'm too introverted by nature to do that. I need to get more assertive.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2019 03:19 PM (JoUsr)

477 "Poll Finds Impeachment Backfiring" is all you need to know.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUTH-SEEKING.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT UPHOLDING THE RULE OF LAW.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP'S WRONGDOING.

IT IS -- AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN -- POLITICAL THEATER MEANT TO DAMAGE TRUMP.

Posted by: red speck at November 21, 2019 03:20 PM (nrC0n)

478 I love the full bodied earthiness of hot diet-jizz shooting down my throat

Posted by: Adam Schiff at November 21, 2019 03:20 PM (CLteG)

479
but the ice cubes, it's keeping me awake nights.
Posted by: Peaches


Get an electric blanket.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2019 03:21 PM (aKsyK)

480 Troll lives matter

Posted by: Shep Smiths Straight Cousin at November 21, 2019 03:22 PM (oo2tY)

481 It doesn't. They never thought it would get this far. Nancy has lost control of the Dems.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 21, 2019 03:17 PM (kDUUX)

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The only way it makes sense is if Mitch has already assured Pelosi that he has the votes to remove Trump. But he doesn't, and I don't believe he's willing to spend a tremendous amount of political and actual capital to get them, and sacrifice his majority for them.

And to give Mitch the cover he'd need to bring those votes in without spending so much to get them, this would have had to have done way more damage in the House. No matter how long he drags it out in the Senate, and he will, his popularity won't go low enough for him to pull the trigger.

So I'm going with yours.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 21, 2019 03:22 PM (AzW6q)

482 >>Honest question...

>>Why would the Dems actually want to have a full blown Senate trial, with rules of procedure, real calling and questioning of witnesses, etc.?

>>How would all of the facts coming out in a trial that the whole country would be watching, hurt PDT more than it would hurt them?

>>Maybe I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how this works well for them.

The ones who are smart enough don't want a Senate trial. Let's see if Nancy can control her crazies.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2019 03:22 PM (ZLI7S)

483 407, That is the problem with becoming an Empire. Only problem is that we are an incompetent empire because the core values of America are anti-imperialism.

Posted by: whig at November 21, 2019 03:23 PM (MItID)

484 The House passed the Senate version of the Hong Kong bill, which has now gone to President Trump for signing (there's no indication that he intends to veto it at this time). While the House version of the bill was unopposed during its vote, the Senate version had one vote against it in the House - Congressman Massie (KY-R). I haven't seen any information about why he voted against it. Does anyone know why Massie opposed the bill?
Posted by: junior at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (sPbXm)

I remember a procedure rule that a bill can only be reproposed by someone who voted against it. So at times R bills that were failing had someone big vote no for that. Doesn't seem to apply here, and Nancy rules the house so ...

Posted by: Oldcat at November 21, 2019 03:27 PM (FTPn0)

485 Just like with Mirror Universe Mitt Romney, I love it when Ace and Pixy substitute clever posts for the trolls (at least I think they're more clever).

Posted by: jayhawkone at November 21, 2019 03:28 PM (ZD+J8)

486 Why would the Dems actually want to have a full blown Senate trial, with rules of procedure, real calling and questioning of witnesses, etc.?

How would all of the facts coming out in a trial that the whole country would be watching, hurt PDT more than it would hurt them?

Maybe I'm tired, but I'm not seeing how this works well for them.
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it does not. Especially when they have a senator or two trying to campaign for president at the same time.

this as a giant F' U to the demos that doubles as a real way to compel evidence into the public record AND potentially entrap deep staters into additional perjury traps.

Be careful what you wish for . . . you just might get it.

Posted by: Simplemind at November 21, 2019 03:30 PM (d5Wlj)

487 356 @NewsBreaking 1 minute ago

BREAKING: Top White House officials and Senate Republicans have reportedly agreed that a full Senate trial should be conducted if the House impeaches President Trump - POLITICO
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2019 02:59 PM (cF8AT)


Isn't that sorta like saying "Judge agrees a trial should be held, if the prosecutor indicts?"
Posted by: BurtTC

Burt, your reaction to this was a rational suggestion that it's meaningless, but I guarantee you that Hunter, Archer, Kerry, Chalupa, Hillary, Vindman, Schiff, and Pelosi's reaction was a sudden clenching of the sphincter muscles, and Swalwell-worthy rectal watery gasp. However, when Joe Biden was asked for comment he simply quipped, "I like pie."

No impeachment.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at November 21, 2019 03:32 PM (kfcYC)

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