Food Thread: The Bigger The Better! Make Something Huge For Christmas Or New Year's Eve...

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There's nothing quite like a large hunk of flesh, still attached to the bones, and complete with the fat that the beast was kind enough to deposit in and on its carcass.

Who doesn't like a monstrous slice of prime rib, or a wonderful rich and fatty slice from a lovingly roasted lamb leg, or even -- dare I say it -- a double-cut chop from a luscious pork roast?

I guess, for the purposes of politeness and inclusiveness, I should include large birds, but please don't throw TURKEY! at me. Roast a goose or even a duck, but not (shudder) turkey again!

I think the prerequisite is size...there is something festive and wonderful about the idea and the sight and the aroma of something big. When the host has to get help to carry the damned thing into the dining room, you know that you are in the right place!

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We had some friends over for dinner recently, and they brought cupcakes for dessert! "What?" Cupcakes? How very pedestrian*! But these weren't ordinary cupcakes. Two of them had small plastic vials of liquor embedded in them (it's sort of tough to see in the photo), and the idea was to squeeze the vial, thus injecting the liquor into the cupcake. Sounds...um...stupid? But it was brilliant! it worked fabulously well, I think in part because the liquor was not full-strength stuff, but rather what I am guessing was a mix of liquor and perhaps wine or even water. The guts of the cupcake was flavored but not overwhelmed.

Oh...the cupcakes themselves were great too.

* Not really. Anything is appreciated and most welcome. Seriously.

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Well, there is nothing about this dish I don't love.
Cheesy Grits Casserole
And it is a reflection of the joys of Southern cooking, which is some of the finest cooking being done in America. It is about unabashed pleasure, without any of the crap ..the guilt and virtue-signalling and pomposity...that is flung so liberally (SWIDT?) in other parts of the country.
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Yes, I would eat one of these.

What a good idea!
Apple Pie Cookies
I wonder where I can get pie dough? Hmmm...Oh, I know one place I can't get it: Bluebell's kitchen. She promised to drop by before Thanksgiving to make me some of her famous pie doughs, but she never showed. Typical Red Sox fan.

By the way, these seem to be the kind of cookie that is best fresh and warm. I'll bet they are spectacular a few minutes out of the oven. It's just the sort of thing that I would eat a few seconds too early and burn the crap out of my mouth.

So who is coming over to Chez Dildo to make them? I am, as I have admitted in the past, a retard when it comes to pie doughs, so if I ever attempt this recipe it will come out weirdly shaped and lopsided. But hopefully still delicious.

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Oh my! Some of these must be fake, because they are just so stupendously , outrageously, unbelievably ugly and non-functional that I can't believe anyone actually took them seriously.

I just spoke with an old friend who just bought a house. It has a 1970s kitchen, complete with a mural of a monkey on the wall. So maybe I am wrong...maybe these are all serious!

The World’s Worst Kitchen Designs

[Hat Tip: Misanthropic Humanitarian]

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I have posted this recipe before, but it is a crowd pleaser, and one that, while it is a tedious process, can be done in advance.
Caramelized Onion Toasts

  • 1 stick (4oz) of unsalted butter
  • 3 big Vidalia or yellow onions, sliced
  • 4 anchovy halves, chopped
  • 3 teaspoons chopped fresh thyme leaves
  • Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
  • 1 baguette
  • Extra-virgin olive oil
  • Shaved Parmigiano-Reggiano

Heat ½ stick of butter in a large skillet over medium heat. Add the onions, chopped anchovies, thyme, salt and pepper and cook until the onions are golden brown, about 20-30 minutes, but it could take longer. Be careful not to burn the onions. If necessary, turn the heat down. The onions will eventually caramelize at the lower temperature; it will just take longer.

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F.
Meanwhile, holding the knife parallel to the cutting board, shave off the rounded top and bottom of the baguette with a serrated knife so that it lies flat. Don’t cut too much; just enough so that the baguette doesn’t roll around. Then cut the baguette in half lengthwise and then each long slice into 3 equal pieces to make 6 slices of bread so that it fits easily on the baking sheet. Melt the remaining butter and brush both sides of the bread.
When the onions are cooked, put the bread slices on a baking sheet and spread with the onions. Drizzle with olive oil, but not too much; there is plenty of fat in this dish!. Place in the oven and bake until the bread is crispy, about 10-15 minutes. Sprinkle with Parmigiano-Reggiano shavings. Cut into pieces on the diagonal and serve hot.

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And bigger...


[Hat Tip: ibguy]
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1 Gonna have meatloaf sammices and mashed potatoes tonight.

Posted by: HH at December 08, 2019 04:01 PM (mIJBI)

2 Baking an eggnog spiced rum cake. House smells heavenly.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 08, 2019 04:01 PM (PkVlr)

3 ...,in like Flynn...

Posted by: krusty at December 08, 2019 04:02 PM (dICGD)

4 "There's nothing quite like a large hunk of flesh..." That's what SHE said

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at December 08, 2019 04:02 PM (gMngZ)

5 Mmmmmmmm. Food. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 04:02 PM (Y4EXg)

6 Wow, and I thought the kitchen I ripped out was bad. I was mistaken.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 04:04 PM (Y4EXg)

7
*huddles over bowl of cold gruel*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 04:04 PM (kXJSE)

8 Top 10! But I'm not hungry.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at December 08, 2019 04:04 PM (pq7xD)

9 *huddles over bowl of cold gruel*
Posted by: Mike Hammer

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You had a bowl? Luxury!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 04:05 PM (Y4EXg)

10 Are those test tubes coming out of the desserts on the right side?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 04:05 PM (ycWCI)

11 Steak burgers on the grill, baked tater and peas and carrots. With butter, lots of butter.

But first a martini, one olive only please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 04:05 PM (Z+IKu)

12 6 Wow, and I thought the kitchen I ripped out was bad. I was mistaken.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 04:04 PM (Y4EXg)

There was someone looking for you with a recipe question in the unterthread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 04:06 PM (ycWCI)

13 Sorry you don't like turkey... If you do it on a rotisserie at very high temperature (500-550F), it will finish in about two hours, have a delicious, crispy skin, and both the white and dark meat will be juicy.
Done that way, it's quite delicious.

Posted by: DaveK at December 08, 2019 04:06 PM (TENQR)

14 I won't be doing anything for New Year's.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 04:07 PM (NWiLs)

15 I have turkey soup cooking right now. House smells wonderful. Will add dumplings to it right before we eat.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 08, 2019 04:08 PM (dUJdY)

16 Tonypete! Paging Tonypete. Semolina bread recipe question from Heidi and Bob at the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Heidi at December 08, 2019 04:08 PM (VqhL9)

17 Is the blood substitute vegan?

Posted by: Batterup at December 08, 2019 04:09 PM (K4I9O)

18 When the host has to get help to carry the damned thing into the dining room,

A carving specialist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjIBnr5WoRUfeature=youtu.bet=92

Posted by: DaveA at December 08, 2019 04:09 PM (FhXTo)

19 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 04:09 PM (Zz0t1)

20 Nothing I cook looks even remotely like that pic. I'm not bad in the kitchen but am not much on "presentation". Suits me fine.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 08, 2019 04:09 PM (EgshT)

21 Is that a rack of lamb? I've never good that, but would consider smoking one.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)

22 Prime rib, reverse sear.

Cook it at a very low temp for a long time, then crank the temp up at the very end.

Done all the way through, and perfect.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (NgKpN)

23 Ordered some of the wild rice from Lake Region Wild Rice Company in MN. They were mentioned in a recent Gardening Thread. It's glorious!

We tried the broken (soup) rice to start with. Perfect-- mild, nutty flavor with just a hint of smoke. Cooks up very well, solid as a rock.

One pot of wild rice chicken soup and we are hooked! Placing another large order tomorrow for gifting and for ourselves. Can't wait to try the full grain version!

Hubby is a sous chef at a casino, and he says it'll be added to and/or replacing any other rices in any recipe where he can work it in.

Posted by: LJ in IA at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (PknCG)

24 those cupcakes are easy on the eyes

Posted by: BLIND PERSON at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (rpxSz)

25 My son and his family will be here for New Years! There will be too much, eating, too much drinking and too much shopping! I think I'm going to need to buy a scooter so I can power shop!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (a4qVe)

26 *huddles over bowl of cold gruel*
Posted by: Mike Hammer

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You had a bowl? Luxury!!
Posted by: Tonypete
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Ha, ha. The 'gruel' is made by grinding the cardboard of left-over East German knock-off Kaboom boxes, between a pair of old bricks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 04:11 PM (RQPzA)

27 I'm trying a half batch of this tonight (remove space):
https://www.daringgourmet.com/ slow-cooker-beef-stroganoff/
Since I can't leave things alone I substituted 2 teaspoons dried mushroom powder and 1/8 teaspoon garlic powder for the actual veggies.
Smells good so far...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 08, 2019 04:11 PM (0ReGO)

28 A local microbrewery has introduced something they call Apple Crisp beer. It does taste of apple and cinnamon. And It has become quite popular.
But one was enough for me.
I would not call Apple Crisp beer sessionable, or even crushable.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 04:11 PM (Uu+Jp)

29 People that like turkey are like dims on impeachment

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2019 04:12 PM (rpxSz)

30 Now, everyone is wondering about the last time they had homemade cake. Was it hepatitis ridden?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (Zz0t1)

31 16 Tonypete! Paging Tonypete. Semolina bread recipe question from Heidi and Bob at the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: Heidi

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Alright you two, settle down!!

I'll dig it up and post in a few minutes.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (Y4EXg)

32 Seriously ugly kitchens!!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (a4qVe)

33 30 Now, everyone is wondering about the last time they had homemade cake. Was it hepatitis ridden?
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (Zz0t1)

Is hepatitis heat-resistant?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (NWiLs)

34 Made gnocchi out of the abundant leftover mashed taters.
They turned out almost too soft.

Posted by: DaveA at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (FhXTo)

35 I cut that hemophiliac right to the bone......

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (Zz0t1)

36 Helena Handbasket, that mushroom powder is fantastic. I'm putting it in a lot of different dishes.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 08, 2019 04:13 PM (hGDfM)

37 Who knew that the blood of our enemies can also be used in the kitchen!
McGyver, out (in the garage, getting the Christmas decoration down from the overhead)

Posted by: McGyver at December 08, 2019 04:14 PM (gMngZ)

Hope For Casualties! The Newest Internecine Struggle On The Left Is Popcorn And Pudding Worthy!

It's a Politico article, so don't click!. But it is a clear signal that the hard Left is becoming frustrated with the superannuated Democrat leadership, and wants change now. It's hard to see anyone on the national stage who would give them what Warren constantly signals as her platform (Sanders is, perhaps, different, but no farther left), but that's simply not enough for these heirs to the Weathermen and the SDS and every other left-wing organization that espouses the overthrow of free markets, free speech, and every other freedom we have.

How the Cool Kids of the Left Turned on Elizabeth Warren

Millennial socialists’ favorite magazine is breaking up with Elizabeth Warren. But it’s saying: It’s not me. It’s you.

That magazine is Jacobin, the nine-year-old publication that has become the de facto voice of the young socialist movement in America. Its favorite candidate all along has been Bernie Sanders, the only self-proclaimed socialist to mount a major campaign for the presidency of the United States since Eugene Debs almost 100 years ago. But for many months, as the 2020 campaign began to unfold, Jacobin treated Warren as the next best thing.

I don't know about you, but I am rooting for both sides! Let this be the beginning of a long, brutal nasty, underhanded battle for the soul (if they have one) of the lunatic fringe of the Democrat party, otherwise known as their base.

As Churchill famously said (or didn't say),

If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
I would disagree with the first point, but wholeheartedly embrace the second...

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1 First?

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:30 PM (Q3xyR)

2 Yes!

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:30 PM (Q3xyR)

3 Nooded.

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:32 PM (Q3xyR)

4 A pox on both their houses. Given their behaviors, quite likely literally.

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:32 PM (Q3xyR)

5 3 Nooded.
Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:32 PM (Q3xyR)

Glad you didn't tell us it was NOOD Elizabeth Warrens.

I would have stayed away.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 02:33 PM (NgKpN)

6 Moar CBD! Whoo-hoo!

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 02:33 PM (oGFm1)

7 5 Glad you didn't tell us it was NOOD Elizabeth Warrens.

I would have stayed away.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 02:33 PM (NgKpN)

And you would have been wise to do so.

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Q3xyR)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

9 jacobins - the most revolutionary and radical group in Revolutionary France.

The name said it all when they used it.

OH BOY!

Posted by: DamnedYanbkee at December 08, 2019 02:35 PM (O8SrN)

10 Let this be the beginning of a long, brutal nasty, underhanded battle for the soul (if they have one)
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Ah. I see you have spotted the problem.

Posted by: bluebell at December 08, 2019 02:35 PM (/669Q)

11 10 Let this be the beginning of a long, brutal nasty, underhanded battle for the soul (if they have one)
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Ah. I see you have spotted the problem.
Posted by: bluebell at December 08, 2019 02:35 PM (/669Q)

/looks at his FULL to overflowing In Box, marked Democrats

/smiles

Posted by: Satan at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

12 Ah. I see you have spotted the problem.
Posted by: bluebell

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Curse you BB! Beat me to it!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (Y4EXg)

13 10 Let this be the beginning of a long, brutal nasty, underhanded battle for the soul (if they have one)
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Ah. I see you have spotted the problem.
Posted by: bluebell at December 08, 2019 02:35 PM (/669Q)

The fundamental problem is that they see the lack of a soul as a feature, not a failure.

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (Q3xyR)

14 I like popcorn

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (ZCEU2)

15
When the Stalinists were shooting the Trotskyites, ordinary people were still being rounded up and sent to the Gulag.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (7rVsF)

16 How the Cool Kids of the Left Turned on Elizabeth Warren

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Put on some Barry White and gave her a wine spritzer and a neck massage?

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:37 PM (m45I2)

17 Really couldn't see Lizzy winning the nomination anyway.,

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:37 PM (ZCEU2)

18 Milwaukee trembles.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:38 PM (hGXZE)

19 Remind me of the Iran/Iraq war.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 02:39 PM (J3Rfi)

20 Curse you BB! Beat me to it!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (Y4EXg)
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*buffs nails*

Posted by: bluebell at December 08, 2019 02:40 PM (/669Q)

21 I dont' follow these weirdos but it seems at least two odd sqaud members are all in for Bernie. Maybe both fire teams are on board and the squad is running this?

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 02:40 PM (n13/j)

22 Its favorite candidate all along has been Bernie Sanders, the only
self-proclaimed socialist to mount a major campaign for the presidency
of the United States since Eugene Debs almost 100 years ago.



All Democrats are socialists and have been that way since FDR. Sanders is the only one who admits it.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:40 PM (mpXpK)

23 Milwaukee trembles


They asked for it. Fortunately they wont come near me... cow farts are deadly.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 02:41 PM (J3Rfi)

24 Millennial socialists' favorite magazine is breaking up with Elizabeth Warren. But it's saying: It's not me. It's you.
That magazine is Jacobin


How did things turn out for Robespierre and the Jacobins?

Oh.

Sorry to hear that.

Not.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:41 PM (hGXZE)

25 The young democrats are ignorant, nasty and live for their fakebook and snapchat moments.

They would throw their momma under a moving train if it got them a few minutes of fame and face time.

Truly dangerous to free people and common sense.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 02:41 PM (Z+IKu)

26 If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
I would disagree with the first point, but wholeheartedly embrace the second...

Posted by: CBD at 02:30 PM

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked....

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (U7k5w)

27 You want a good laugh?

Check out this pathetic clip of Warren at a bowling alley.. "I am not a person of color.." lol

https://tinyurl.com/v4k2y5n

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (aR6C/)

28 17 Really couldn't see Lizzy winning the nomination anyway.,
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:37 PM (ZCEU2)


Me either. She was like Betoff and Kalamari: briefly the flavor of the month, but under a bit of scrutiny (even by the Reds), folding like a cheap suit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (hGXZE)

29 17 Really couldn't see Lizzy winning the nomination anyway.,

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:37 PM (ZCEU2)

Many Progressives probably like her temperament and holier-than-thou shtick as little as normal people do.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (AMIL/)

30 As Churchill famously said (or didn't say),


I always thought it was Oscar Wilde who didn't really say that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (gd9RK)

31 That magazine is Jacobin, the nine-year-old publication that has become the de facto voice of the young socialist movement in America.
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'Jacobin'. Remarkable. I suppose that 'Reign of Terror' would be too...what?...incendiary?

I long for one of these misdirected ignorant people to describe the measurably positive consequences of the French revolution.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (yY5sN)

32 Check out this pathetic clip of Warren at a bowling alley.. "I am not a person of color integrity. Or any serious intellect."

FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:44 PM (hGXZE)

33 Commie Grandpa, I still believe!

Posted by: Tide Pod Kids at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (IttZ7)

34 Check out this pathetic clip of Warren at a bowling alley.. "I am not a person of color integrity. Or any serious intellect"

FIFY.


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FIFY one more time

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (m45I2)

35 And I still say none of the people running for the nomination now will get it. They truly are all un-electable so the DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)

36 16 How the Cool Kids of the Left Turned on Elizabeth Warren

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Put on some Barry White and gave her a wine spritzer and a neck massage?
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:37 PM (m45I2)

Eww. Twisted.

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 02:46 PM (oGFm1)

37 Put on some Barry White and gave her a wine spritzer and a neck massage?


Oh man, the 70s were awesome except for the polyester.

And the other things.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 02:46 PM (gd9RK)

38 The problem isn't the lunatic left. Anybody who calls their blog "Jacobin" like that's a good thing is so out of touch with reality they can safely be ignored.

No, the problem is all the "mainstream" Democrats who are so drunk on the Kool-ade of getting rid of Trump that they have allowed their party to fall into the hands of a pack of crooks, lunatics, and traitors.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 02:47 PM (urZJh)

39 Eww. Twisted.
Posted by: m


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In my defense, the sentence was a little ambiguous.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:47 PM (m45I2)

40 Didn't AOC switch to Warren?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 02:47 PM (Uu+Jp)

41 Claiming to be of Native American heritage is not "causing confusion"

That's fucking LYING

"Oh hey IRS my bad lolz.. I may have caused some confusion about my write offs.."

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:47 PM (aR6C/)

42 38: Crooks and liars IS the mainstream. My BIL is a big donk, contributes to a lot of them. In 2016 he said "Sure, she's corrupt, but she's what the country needs". Totally mainstream.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:49 PM (U7k5w)

43 Their "base" is unionized govt. employees [including "first responders" in many cases], teachers and academics, many many businessmen [small and corporate], most of the legal profession, many medical people, non-white people for the most part, suburban women, "educated" suburbanites, media and communications people, on and on. Only a tiny fraction is freak marginal "socialists".


The aforementioned people, which of course for most people will be among your family, friends, neighbors, colleagues, club members, team-mates, etc., are the ones that put Obama in the WH, and continue to put Dems in control in many places even as their policies prove disastrous, or morph into bizarre territory [one good example is "devout Catholics" not having the slightest discomfort with fanatical Dem tribalism even as over the past year the party has moved into Mengele-territory on abortion up to minute of birth, or after].


Dem or "swing" voters *so* stupid they put dozens of new Dem reps into office in '18 based on those peoples' hilarious pledges to work with Trump on areas of agreement.


GOP voters *so* stupid they put the likes of McCarthy and probably 2/3 of the GOP caucus in both houses in office - despite their inaction or opposition on so many key matters - is a different problem.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2019 02:49 PM (El6T/)

44
If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.

Courage!

Posted by: Cowardly Dan at December 08, 2019 02:50 PM (aKsyK)

45 35 And I still say none of the people running for the nomination now will get it. They truly are all un-electable so the DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)

. . . and that candidate will thereby not be subject to public scrutiny pre-Chicago.

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 02:50 PM (oGFm1)

46 45: Hillary/Castro 2020 will be the ticket

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:51 PM (U7k5w)

47 43 rhomboid

#UniParty FTW!

Posted by: ibguy at December 08, 2019 02:52 PM (EHVbt)

48 45: And they will point out that she has received plenty of scrutiny. LOL

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:52 PM (U7k5w)

49 I think the Dems will bring Hickenlooper out of retirement to accept the nom.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:52 PM (m45I2)

50 Democrats are running out of time to find someone other than this current crop of nominees

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:52 PM (ZCEU2)

51 49: Your limericks will write themselves.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:53 PM (U7k5w)

52 When the Stalinists were shooting the Trotskyites, ordinary people were still being rounded up and sent to the Gulag.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (7rVsF)


It started early in Russia. Nine months after the Bolsheviks* seized power, in the second election (by which time Bolshevik policies were becoming appreciated), they got clobbered, winning only 25% of the vote. At that juncture Lenin pulled the plug on further non-rigged elections, and had the Revolutionary Socialists - his erstwhile allies - whacked.

* "Bolshevik" was a misnomer, as was "Menshevik." The truth was the other way around. The former was a minority, the latter the majority. After a particularly stormy party meeting most of the latter left, leaving the former behind where they THEN constituted a majority.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:53 PM (hGXZE)

53 DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago.

Indeed. The lunatics will ransack Milwaukee while business is done in the comfy chairs in Chicago.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 02:53 PM (J3Rfi)

54 "Bolshevik" was a misnomer, as was "Menshevik." The
truth was the other way around. The former was a minority, the latter
the majority. After a particularly stormy party meeting most of the
latter left, leaving the former behind where they THEN constituted a
majority.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:53 PM (hGXZE)

The say half of success is showing up.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 02:54 PM (n13/j)

55 35 And I still say none of the people running for the nomination now will get it. They truly are all un-electable so the DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago Milwaukee.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)/i]

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:54 PM (hGXZE)

56 Hickenlooper
Super duper
Blooper
Pooper scooper
Chalupa


Yeah, that's material I. can work with.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:54 PM (m45I2)

57 What's really tragic is the part where the evil Soros bankrolls nutcase DA candidates - and the hapless, powerless voters in their districts are FORCED to go out and vote for them.


If only the electorate had the chance to make changes and reject this crap.


We need a system where voters actually get to vote how they want, and aren't FORCED to elect nutcase freaks by shadowy evil figures.



Posted by: HQ commenter at December 08, 2019 02:56 PM (El6T/)

58

Has Joe told us yet about that old flame CoCo Pudding she had his leg hair round her little finger then pulled hard.

she also taught him the cofeve pudding trick.

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 02:56 PM (5IHGB)

59 All Democrats are socialists and have been that way since FDR. Sanders is the only one who admits it.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:40 PM (mpXpK)


And all "democratic socialists" are communists.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:57 PM (hGXZE)

60 Hickenlooper is the Colorado version of Beto. Big in his state but no one cares anywhere else. And he is to the right of Beto. I say bring him in, the more the merrier.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 02:57 PM (n13/j)

61
45: And they will point out that she has received plenty of scrutiny. LOL
Posted by: CN


All bad things "debunked."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

62 57: Cute.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (U7k5w)

63 9 jacobins - the most revolutionary and radical group in Revolutionary France.

The name said it all when they used it.


But remember, once they'd executed or exiled all their competition, they started executing each other.

At which point a few of them decided "we'd better kill them before they kill us" and you got the Directory whose leadership and functionaries was mostly ex-Jacobins (Barras, Fouche) and the Deep State types who'd basically work for anyone that'd advance their interests (Talleyrand, Sieyes).

Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (8erNz)

64 Whatever happened to Deval Patrick? That useless piece of garbage used to be my governor.

Didn't he show up to a event in Atlanta we're only two people showed up? Rheem that's practically the black capital of the South. That dude couldn't even get more than two people to show up down there? Yeah he made a huge splash

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (aR6C/)

65 Hickenlooper
Super duper
Blooper
Pooper scooper
Chalupa

Yeah, that's material I. can work with.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 02:54 PM


Drop the chalupa.

Posted by: zombie Gidget, as voiced by Carlos Alazraqui at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (DMUuz)

66 46 45: Hillary/Castro 2020 will be the ticket
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:51 PM (U7k5w)


Biden/Booker, or if Biden continues to blue screen, Hillarhoid/Booker would be my guess.

Gotta get the black vote to turn out. Without it, the Dems don't have a dog's chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (hGXZE)

67 The speech-to-text capability of this phone is very frustrating to say the least

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (aR6C/)

68 Has Joe told us yet about that old flame CoCo Pudding she had his leg hair round her little finger then pulled hard.

she also taught him the cofeve pudding trick.




So close to cogent.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (yQpMk)

69 'Jacobin'. Remarkable. I suppose that 'Reign of Terror' would be too...what?...incendiary?

I long for one of these misdirected ignorant people to describe the measurably positive consequences of the French revolution.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 02:43 PM (yY5sN)

And the whole thing led to?

A Strong Man taking total Power.

French Revolution? Napoleon.
Russian Revolution? Stalin.

US Revolution? Very easily could have been George Washington, but he turned it down.

Posted by: Satan at December 08, 2019 02:59 PM (NgKpN)

70 We need a system where voters actually get to vote how they want, and aren't FORCED to elect nutcase freaks by shadowy evil figures.

No one FORCED the voters of San Francisco to elect that Weatherman demon seed to the DA slot.

They did so because they're idiots.

Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2019 02:59 PM (8erNz)

71 61
45: And they will point out that she has received plenty of scrutiny. LOL
Posted by: CN

All bad things "debunked."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)

And if she is elected, Comey gets his job back, Rosenstein is AG, and malignant quiet will reign at CNN. Alexandra Kaufman will go back to work at CNN, as her husband will be a hero.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:00 PM (U7k5w)

72 If the magazine calls itself the Jacobin, it is either ignorant of who the Jacobins were, or embraces who the Jacobins were. Not surprising in the former case, and pretty horrifying in the latter.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 03:00 PM (H8QX8)

73 Didn't the Dems try to get Stacy Abrams into the race? I thought I saw a trial balloon floated on Thanksgiving Day.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 03:00 PM (m45I2)

74 66 46 45: Biden/Booker, or if Biden continues to blue screen
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (hGXZE)

If?

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (oGFm1)

75 45: And they will point out that she has received plenty of scrutiny. LOL
Posted by: CN

All bad things "debunked."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 02:57 PM (aKsyK)


"Old news."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (hGXZE)

76 Didn't the Dems try to get Stacy Abrams into the race? I thought I saw a trial balloon floated on Thanksgiving Day.
Posted by: Muldoon

---

Muldoon! You magnificent bastard!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (Y4EXg)

77 73 Didn't the Dems try to get Stacy Abrams into the race? I thought I saw a trial balloon floated on Thanksgiving Day.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 03:00 PM (m45I2)

That was the Hindenburg.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (U7k5w)

78 TAKE!!! Another hit....

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (Y274z)

79 I saw Drop the Chalupa open for Cage the Elephant in 2013.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (NWiLs)

80 Didn't he show up to a event in Atlanta we're only two people showed up?

Did he? What a rock star!

Posted by: Mark Sanford at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (gHCnG)

81 "Didn't the Dems try to get Stacy Abrams into the race?"

I look on her as less of a Socialist than as a monstrously corrupt ignoramus.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (H8QX8)

82 66 Gotta get the black vote to turn out. Without it, the Dems don't have a dog's chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (hGXZE)

SC blacks have already said they do not like Biden.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (mpXpK)

83 72 If the magazine calls itself the Jacobin, it is either ignorant of who the Jacobins were, or embraces who the Jacobins were. Not surprising in the former case, and pretty horrifying in the latter.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 03:00 PM (H8QX

We have a political group of Leftists who self identify as 'the Young Turks'.

They are TELLING us who they are, but most of us are afraid to take them at their word.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (NgKpN)

84 The hits brain damaged the NFL.

The hits brain damaged the left.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (Y274z)

85 cow farts are deadly.
Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 02:41 PM


HOW DARE YOU?

I've been striking for a year, and there has been very little, if any, change?

HOW DARE YOU?

Posted by: Greta Thunberg at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (DMUuz)

86 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (hGXZE)

Hillary/Holder then.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:03 PM (U7k5w)

87 74 66 46 45: Biden/Booker, or if Biden continues to blue screen
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:58 PM (hGXZE)

If?
Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (oGFm1)


Yep. Hard to see how he couldn't continue to blue screen. The crucial consideration is whether he blue screens so much that the MSM can't cover him if he's the nominee.

After all, the MSM covered for Obama, who was best buds with an admitted communist terrorist, whose middle name was "Hussein," whose pastor was a flaming nutjob, who somehow and for some reason traveled to Pakistan on spring break, etc. So we can't underestimate their powers in this connection.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:03 PM (hGXZE)

88 from that article, regarding Bernie Sandinista's (and Warren's) platform: "It's to the left of Biden; it's to the left of Obama; it's to the left of Clinton. Neither of them is going to appoint officials from Goldman Sachs."


yeah, and Obama was not going to allow GS or any lobbyists into his administration. Warren and Biden would need GS and Morgan to run their MMT money tree to fund their Socialist Utopia. They would submit to BigMoney just as Obama did ... but BigMoney will mostly choose the Dem Chosen One ... and the conditions for campaign funding will be etched in stone, under penalty of Muerta.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 03:04 PM (Cus5s)

89 Hillary/Holder then.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:03 PM (U7k5w)


Yeah, maybe.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:04 PM (hGXZE)

90

Can I get a subscription to Manson Family magazine?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 03:04 PM (aKsyK)

91 How the Cool Kids of the Left Turned on Elizabeth Warren

I know it's a Politico headline, but-

man, am I tired of seeing socialists/communists described as "cool".

I would like to see that headline re-framed as-

How the Immature, Envious, Greedy, Hate-filled, Lazy, Nearly-Retarded, Who Have No Concept of Normal Human Behavior and Motivation, Zero Idea of Science, and Who Would Happily Cut Your Throat or the Throats of Your Children to Bring About Their Morally-Deformed Vision of Heaven on Earth About Kids of the Left Turned on Fellow Corrupt Retard Elizabeth Warren



There. Much better headline.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (kauXV)

92 87 74 66 46 45: Obama, who was best buds with an admitted communist terrorist, whose middle name was "Hussein," whose pastor was a flaming nutjob, who somehow and for some reason traveled to Pakistan on spring break, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:03 PM (hGXZE)

Point taken.

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (oGFm1)

93 Can I get a subscription to Manson Family magazine?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

---

Sure but the price will kill you.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (Y4EXg)

94 89 Hillary/Holder then.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:03 PM (U7k5w)

Yeah, maybe.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:04 PM (hGXZE)

I don't think Hillary will enter the race. The guy who was just indicted for illegally funding her campaign with foreign donations is a real thing.

She will want to keep her head down.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (NgKpN)

95 C blacks have already said they do not like Biden.


Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (mpXpK)

So who is leading in SC? I recall SC traditionally being the firewall for the party. On both sides, the SC primary voters normally go for the mainstream candidate supported by the party. They stopped McCain and helped Bush. They went for Clinton over Bernie I believe. It is pretty standard to SC to toe the party line. So if not Biden, who are they going for?

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (n13/j)

96 DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago.


The Morons were snuggled asleep in their beds
While visions of '68 danced in their heads

The hippies now Antifa, we will see them daily
But who'll take the role of the next Mayor Daley?

When in Lincoln Park there arises a clatter
As Antifa fights with Black Lives that Matter

And the young and the senile choose twixt Warren and Sanders
As each of them strives to see which one best panders

The Pelosis and Bidens will struggle to hold
The reins of a dogma that's nothing but scold

And because the young have slim sense of error
They don't know they're the heirs to the Jacobin terror

On Nadler, on Schiff! Comparing to Nixon
Like tits without brains that AOC vixen

And what they're not hearing is the joy on the Right
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good fight

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (gd9RK)

97 SC blacks have already said they do not like Biden.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (mpXpK)


Whom do they prefer? Sanders? Warren? Buttplug? I bet they like that sorry crew even less.

The polls I've seen (not that I take polls all that seriously, but intraparty polls are more likely to be sound, I suspect) shows they prefer Biden over the present crew of wannabes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (hGXZE)

98 I've read articles on Jacobin a few times. I've always been left with the strong impression that, for the good of the country, everyone who writes for them needs to be executed, as does anyone who is a dedicated and loyal reader.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (V2Yro)

99 There. Much better headline.
Posted by: naturalfake


*******

A little wordy, but we're going to allow it.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (m45I2)

100 Now Lindsey is saying he may not even call witnesses before a vote. Now that is scary. No day in court, donks protected from consequences, amazing.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (U7k5w)

101 The SDS???

Fucking splitters.

Posted by: the SLA at December 08, 2019 03:08 PM (Dh1wo)

102 Eric Fast and Furious Holder: I don't see that happening. Or, I see PDT squashing that.

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:08 PM (oGFm1)

103 98 I've read articles on Jacobin a few times. I've always been left with the strong impression that, for the good of the country, everyone who writes for them needs to be executed, as does anyone who is a dedicated and loyal reader.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (V2Yro)

In a perfect world. In the real world, they'll be doing the executing, bro.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:09 PM (U7k5w)

104 No day in court, donks protected from consequences, amazing.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (U7k5w)

I figured there'd be some plot little twist like that from Graham. Probably several more coming.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 03:09 PM (H8QX8)

105 >>Yep. Hard to see how he couldn't continue to blue screen. The crucial consideration is whether he blue screens so much that the MSM can't cover him if he's the nominee.

After all, the MSM covered for Obama, who was best buds with an admitted communist terrorist, whose middle name was "Hussein," whose pastor was a flaming nutjob, who somehow and for some reason traveled to Pakistan on spring break, etc. So we can't underestimate their powers in this connection.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:03 PM (hGXZE)

This was back before the media had completely beclowned itself to the entirety of the nation, and the GOP media relationship was that of a battered freaking housewife.

The Masks are completely off now thanks to President Trump and to say things are completely different now is a huge understatement. The media has lost its complete control of the narrative and the more their grip slips the more the general public begins to realize that the media has been a part of the problem all along and are no longer slaves to them. This really is our Revolution. It was not too long ago where the GOP was laughed at for not knowing how to supposedly use the internet to reach voters. Well, how does our ass taste now media?

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (aR6C/)

106 So if not Biden, who are they going for?


Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (n13/j)

They will probably go for Warren. The Dem primaries will bounce around all over the place. The Democrat convention will nominate who they want and it will not be any of the current candidates. Scankles is making noises like she wants to get in at the convention.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (mpXpK)

107 102: Surely you jest. Horowitz exonerated Holder in Fast and Furious, said he knew nothing about it.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (U7k5w)

108 Is Gateway Pundit legit? They are saying Bar has indicted 8 Dem donors with ties to Schiff and Hillary, and one a Mueller
Witness

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (HrSJb)

109 Posted by: Bandersnatch

*****


Heh. Nice.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 03:11 PM (m45I2)

110 100 Now Lindsey is saying he may not even call witnesses before a vote. Now that is scary. No day in court, donks protected from consequences, amazing.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (U7k5w)

The articles of Impeachment boil down to a thought crime, about something that did not even happen.

They are postulating that the President can be impeached for 'improper motivations'.

ie, doing a legal action, but doing it for the wrong reasons.

And in this case, there is not even a predicate action that he had the wrong motivation about.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:11 PM (NgKpN)

111 Huge, if true: there's a rumor that Matt Drudge has sold his site, which might explain the recent anti-Trump tone.

https://tinyurl.com/u3rhy7y

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 08, 2019 03:11 PM (HmZuC)

112 Is there a DNC betting pool yet? (Hopefully one without VP Biden skinny dipping in it.).
I put my money on "this is a historic first : an openly gay President". Dems like to tell black voters what to do every four years. They don't like listening to any talkback after the orders are sent out, so Pete's numbers in SC will be ignored.

Posted by: Downcast at December 08, 2019 03:12 PM (m98YK)

113 108 Is Gateway Pundit legit? They are saying Bar has indicted 8 Dem donors with ties to Schiff and Hillary, and one a Mueller
Witness
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (HrSJb)

But all the big fish swim away, so far. They knew the donations were dodgy.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:12 PM (U7k5w)

114 We're saddled up, and ready to ride to the rescue!

https://www.mfiles.co.uk/scores/charge.htm

Posted by: Hillary!/Michelle! 2020 at December 08, 2019 03:12 PM (DMUuz)

115 Nice, Bandersnatch.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (kauXV)

116 Warren and Biden would need GS and Morgan to run their MMT money tree to fund their Socialist Utopia.

I think Warren has already burned her bridges with Wall Street, more proof, if any were needed, that she's a nitwit.

What she should have done was make the odd populist speech railing against Wall Street, and then let it go. The Street would understand her doing that as a political tactic, and still contribute to the DNC, which is now in debt and needs the money.

But Warren's on the warpath about Wall Street so often and so stridently that I suspect they've concluded she actually means this shit, which I think also. So I don't believe she'd get into bed with Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan or anybody else from Wall Street.

And that's probably going to be Warren's undoing: the DNC needs those big checks because it's broke, and knows that nominating Warren would torpedo chances of getting those checks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (hGXZE)

117 108 Is Gateway Pundit legit? They are saying Bar has indicted 8 Dem donors with ties to Schiff and Hillary, and one a Mueller
Witness
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (HrSJb)

GP has a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later, maybe. I don't trust any of their reportage without reliable corroboration from additional sources.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

118 Dem Establishment knows that Biden will fold like a cheap Ukrainian suit, if he faces Trump one on one.
They are faced with Warren. Sanders is too left for the swing states, no matter how matter brain dead college kids mobolize for him.
Warren is a woman, and that appeases suburban females, but she is McGovern 2

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (HrSJb)

119 There is a vid floating around of Miss Lindsey in Kiev as MCain is awarded the Ukraine Cross by the a President that fired the prosecutor for investigating Burisma. The skank ambassadress was there too.

What personal Ukrainian evils is Lindsey hiding?

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (J3Rfi)

120 And in this case, there is not even a predicate action that he had the wrong motivation about.
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:11 PM (NgKpN)

Romney will agree to this. How many others will be happy to go back to failure theater after squandering 2017-2019? I don't trust the "vote" without evidence.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:14 PM (U7k5w)

121 Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (mpXpK)
Well this is a clown car even by their normal clown car standards. I never thought she would try again and still think it is not likely. But it is certainly possible as the entire group deflates. She could come in as some kind of mediator and decide the only fair thing to do is to take over.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 03:14 PM (n13/j)

122 117. Fair enough my friend

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:14 PM (HrSJb)

123 Jim Hoft gets carried away from time to time.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 08, 2019 03:14 PM (dJrqU)

124 I put my money on "this is a historic first : an openly gay President".

The knives are already out for Buttplug, with recent news articles talking about his time at McKinsey. Stuff like that, plus being a fruit, means he's a non-starter, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:15 PM (hGXZE)

125 So who is leading in SC? I recall SC traditionally being the firewall for the party. On both sides, the SC primary voters normally go for the mainstream candidate supported by the party. They stopped McCain and helped Bush. They went for Clinton over Bernie I believe. It is pretty standard to SC to toe the party line. So if not Biden, who are they going for?

In many Southern states the Democrat vote is essentially the black vote.

I can't see Sanders or Warren or even Buttigieg outpointing Biden with that audience.

Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (8erNz)

126 Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

He cited the DOJ press release.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (U7k5w)

127 ...

The hippies now Antifa, we will see them daily
But who'll take the role of the next Mayor Daley?

...

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 03:06 PM (gd9RK)

--------------------------

Nice, but I have to throw a flag on this stanza. Rhyming "daily" with "Daley"...

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (CAJOC)

128 Anybody live in Phoenix? Heard a radio anchor in trouble for going after Orca McCain for her support of Biden. Called her a pro life hypocrite for endorsing Infantacide loving Joe Plugs. Called her the daughter of a Homewrecker also

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (HrSJb)

129 Around Thanksgiving Crazy Uncle Joe floated having Tank Abrams as his VP to gyn up the black vote.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (ZCEU2)

130 126 Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

He cited the DOJ press release.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (U7k5w)

Then I would recommend reading the press release to see if it says what Hoft says it says.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (NWiLs)

131 114 We're saddled up, and ready to ride to the rescue!

https://www.mfiles.co.uk/scores/charge.htm
Posted by: Hillary!/Michelle! 2020 at December 08, 2019 03:12 PM (DMUuz)

Which saddled the other?

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 03:17 PM (J3Rfi)

132 130: I did, it does.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:17 PM (U7k5w)

133 #94 She can't keep her head down when she has to use a bollard to keep her head up.

Gone are the days when she waved her way down the street with guys using a rope to keep the public at bay.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 03:17 PM (Y274z)

134 DOJ released the 8 indictments. Knowing our luck they are 8 small frys taking the fall

Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (HrSJb)

135 Which of the remaining clown car candidates would put up the best fight at the debates with Trump?

Posted by: Downcast at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (m98YK)

136 I can't see Sanders or Warren or even Buttigieg outpointing Biden with that audience.

Posted by: JEM at December 08, 2019 03:16 PM (8erNz)

nor I, unless he makes some crazy level blunders.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (n13/j)

137
Trump runs for Pope

https://wdtprs.com/2019/07/pres-trump-running-for-pope/

I know how to build. I build things for a living. We are going to have a big beautiful altar rail in every Church. A big beautiful rail in the most magnificent, beautiful churches you've ever seen. The best incense, the best music, the best everything. And all kinds of Latin Masses. We're going to have so many Latin Masses.

(Cheers, applause)

It's all going to change. I'm going to build a Holy Office so big, so mean, and so strong no modernist would even think of uttering a heresy. And if they did then God help them. They would be out of here so fast. That I can promise you. So we need to bring back the Holy Office and make it strong again. I would absolutely knock the hell out of the modernists, ok?

(Cheers, applause)

Finally folks, let me just end by saying this. Our Church doesn't win anymore. We used to win. We don't win anymore. We lose on dialogue, we lose to the modernists, we lose to the pagans. When I win, when I become Pope, we are going to take our Church back. We're going to make our Church great again. We're going to make our Church reverent again. We're going to kick the *&$+ out of the modernists quickly. So quickly. We're going to win so much. We're going to win with conversions, we're going to win with vocations, we're going to win with the Mass.

(Wild cheers, applause)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (7rVsF)

138 134 DOJ released the 8 indictments. Knowing our luck they are 8 small frys taking the fall
Posted by: Jonah at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (HrSJb)

That is my impression, although it could be interpreted as a warning shot at the recipients of the largesse.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:19 PM (U7k5w)

139 Well this is a clown car even by their normal clown car standards. I never thought she would try again and still think it is not likely. But it is certainly possible as the entire group deflates. She could come in as some kind of mediator and decide the only fair thing to do is to take over.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 03:14 PM (n13/j)


I think the more likely scenario (if she ends up running at all) is that the DNC will have come to her, hat in hand, asking to run because they've concluded that any of the present clowns will get buried in the general election. Plus, the psychology works; she'd be kind of the lesbian Cincinnatus in their hagiography. "Cincinnata," if you will.

Then they'd just need to find a black running mate, and they'd be good to go with the best shot they probably would have.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:19 PM (hGXZE)

140 Obama was the first ghey President.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (NWiLs)

141 124 I put my money on "this is a historic first : an openly gay President".

The knives are already out for Buttplug, with recent news articles talking about his time at McKinsey. Stuff like that, plus being a fruit, means he's a non-starter, IMO.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:15 PM (hGXZE
********
He knows he can't win this one...but is ^ahem, cough^ positioning for the next one.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (Y274z)

142 If Pathetic Joe wins the nomination his VP candidate would be the president if Biden should win. That's been mentioned here before but the thought is frightening.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (Uu+Jp)

143 Dayum, am I the only one with

'misty water-colored memories of the way we were'

playing in my head?

Gah, Milwaukee/Madison playing. 100+ years since Haymarket.

Yes, Chicago will determine and go back and forth between the border to ensure votes. Just like always.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (MIKMs)

144 And the press release is dated December 3rd. I don't recall much fanfare.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (U7k5w)

145 They are postulating that the President can be impeached for 'improper motivations'.

ie, doing a legal action, but doing it for the wrong reasons.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:11 PM (NgKpN)


This cracks me up, since Dems are forever doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons. They just lie to their base that they had proper reasons.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (87gB3)

146 Nice, but I have to throw a flag on this stanza. Rhyming "daily" with "Daley"...


I know. But I was under deadline and it's worth every bit of your subscription price.

They are at least spelt differently. Believe me I had the entire internal debate in my head as it was going.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 03:20 PM (gd9RK)

147 F'n Graham.

This morning said he is going to make the Senate Hearing on impeachment as short as possible.

Even suggested that the President should not make an defense.

So, the POLITICAL damage being done by the Dems in the House, will not be mitigated.

And this is AFTER he has not done a damn thing in any hearing about ANY of this before.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (NgKpN)

148 132 130: I did, it does.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:17 PM (U7k5w)

Good. Such diligence is commendable.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (NWiLs)

149 135 Which of the remaining clown car candidates would put up the best fight at the debates with Trump?
Posted by: Downcast at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (m98YK)

Which house cat would do best in a fight with a honey badger?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (V2Yro)

150 >>Now Lindsey is saying he may not even call witnesses before a vote. Now that is scary. No day in court, donks protected from consequences, amazing.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:07 PM (U7k5w

I cant see where he said that.

Link?

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (aR6C/)

151 55 35 And I still say none of the people running for the nomination now will get it. They truly are all un-electable so the DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago Milwaukee.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)/i]

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:54 PM (hGXZE)


The Favorite Daughter and Favorite Son candidates from the two most populous states - California and Texas - have dropped out, and that increases the potential delegate haul for someone in those delegate-rich states next March. Or maybe those two lousy candidates being in wouldn't make any difference. If I was a suspicious sort of fellow, I might believe that Kamala and Beto were 'convinced' to get out early (after their backers were 'convinced' to stop supplying money), to open-up things for Joe and reduce the odds of a brokered convention.

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (AMIL/)

152 That picture of the Hildabeast with the child molester is darling.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 03:22 PM (Y274z)

153 James Clyburn has already said Biden will get nowhere with Black voters in SC

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 03:22 PM (mpXpK)

154 I missed that the Wisconsin town that banned snowball fights was Wausau. Grandpa was from Wausau. His first job was in the paper mill until he joined the Army in 1937.

That is really sad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)

155 Warren 2020?

Talk about Top Squaw...

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:23 PM (d5Ayn)

156 The fact that Biden, Sanders and Warren are the cream of the crop on the left shows you just how shitty they are and how shitty politics in America is.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

157 I forgot which President like 100 years ago is thought to have been ghey

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 03:25 PM (ZCEU2)

158 149 135 Which of the remaining clown car candidates would put up the best fight at the debates with Trump?
Posted by: Downcast at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (m98YK)

Which house cat would do best in a fight with a honey badger?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (V2Yro)

I would fully expect Pathetic Joe would go full-on crazy raging. He might even go to his tough guy routine and maybe even challenge Trump to a fight.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:25 PM (Uu+Jp)

159 Biden, Sanders, Warren are all the Old Guard Politburo just waiting for a 'cold' to bury them. Hillary Beria is no spry chicken either.

So who will be Gorbachev? Pete the Butt-plug?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:25 PM (d5Ayn)

160 Link?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (aR6C/)

He told Maria Bartiromo that the donks will present their case and then he will hold the vote.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:26 PM (U7k5w)

161 154 I missed that the Wisconsin town that banned snowball fights was Wausau. Grandpa was from Wausau. His first job was in the paper mill until he joined the Army in 1937.

That is really sad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)

If'n I was a kid in that town?

Preplan a HUGE snowball fight for the next time it snowed.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:26 PM (NgKpN)

162

Socialism is a political system whose crowning achievement is it's abysmal failure each time it is implemented.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 08, 2019 03:26 PM (KATBx)

163 All bad things "debunked."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
-------

"That has already been adjudicated" - Hillary

Recalling her making that statement, I did a quick search, and find that 'Clinton already adjudicated' produces a lot of hits. Apologists use that phrase as a dismissal.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:27 PM (a0Lwn)

164 I would fully expect Pathetic Joe would go full-on
crazy raging. He might even go to his tough guy routine and maybe even
challenge Trump to a fight.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:25 PM (Uu+Jp)

======

He'll go all Jack Palance and try to do a one handed push-up and get down on the floor and not be able to get back up. The Secret Service will have to come in and help him....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (IttZ7)

165 If'n I was a kid in that town?



Preplan a HUGE snowball fight for the next time it snowed.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 03:26 PM (NgKpN)

hell's yeah. They are asking for it.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (n13/j)

166 Another reason to like visiting Ace of Spades - learned two new words today!
Superannuated and Internecine.

Posted by: Batterup at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (K4I9O)

167 I'd like to see somebody taunt Joe Biden about being unfit for office because of his inability to control his temper.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (Uu+Jp)

168
There's a case for Bloomberg coming out of a pot-filled room in Milwaukee. Avoids the debates. Self-funding because the DNC is broke. Actually ran something. Everyone else is senile or crazy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (7rVsF)

169 To many power Democrats have to know Hillary as a nominee is a suicide pact

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 03:29 PM (ZCEU2)

170 168


There's a case for Bloomberg coming out of a pot-filled room in
Milwaukee. Avoids the debates. Self-funding because the DNC is broke.
Actually ran something. Everyone else is senile or crazy.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (7rVsF)

======


Bloomberg 2020: All Your Big Gulps Are Belong To Us

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 03:29 PM (IttZ7)

171 107 102: Surely you jest. Horowitz exonerated Holder in Fast and Furious, said he knew nothing about it.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:10 PM (U7k5w)

Yes. But the investigation dragged Holder off the nationally competitive political stage.

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:29 PM (oGFm1)

172 Mikey 'Mr. 16oz' Bloomberg as the DNC candidate...

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (d5Ayn)

173 I missed that the Wisconsin town that banned snowball fights was Wausau. Grandpa was from Wausau. His first job was in the paper mill until he joined the Army in 1937.

That is really sad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)


The entire town should show the bird, because in case you forgot, the bird is the word, and have a MASSIVE snowball fight.

The world will NEVER be "be well, John Spartan."

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

174 Hey kiddies, don't forget to submit your fingerprints when you mail off those packages at your local post office.

Thanks!

https://tinyurl.com/tebq6gg

Posted by: Your FBI - Looking out for YOU! at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (RU4sa)

175 169 To many power Democrats have to know Hillary as a nominee is a suicide pact
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 03:29 PM (ZCEU2)

No, they see it as a rematch. Rocky II

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (U7k5w)

176 135 Which of the remaining clown car candidates would put up the best fight at the debates with Trump?
Posted by: Downcast at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (m98YK)


Biden, by far. He'd just do his avuncular old man shtick, which would insulate him against a lot of stuff by not taking the whole thing seriously. Recall how easily he handled Ryan by doing that.

Warren is much too brittle and high-strung to do that, and she's not a good politician. Trump would easily outmaneuver her, as he did on the DNA thing. She's likes to lecture everyone pointing at them with her finger, and would probably come unglued after a few Trump zingers.

Buttplug is vulnerable for being a failed mayor of a small unimportant town. He should vulnerable for being a fruit, but Trump would and should pass over that unremarked.

Sanders has many of the same problems as Warren: a tendency to lecture, compounded in his case by his predilection for playing the invisible vertical piano, and of course the thick Brooklyn accent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (hGXZE)

177 There's a case for Bloomberg coming out of a pot-filled room in
Milwaukee. Avoids the debates. Self-funding because the DNC is broke.
Actually ran something. Everyone else is senile or crazy.


A pot filled room? That would be interesting.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

178 157 I forgot which President like 100 years ago is thought to have been ghey
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 03:25 PM (ZCEU2)

Wilson wasn't ghey-ghey but he did rape-rape the constitution

Posted by: Batterup at December 08, 2019 03:31 PM (K4I9O)

179 18 Milwaukee trembles.

---

Actually, Milwaukee, historically, was home to several Socialist mayors. They still have one but he runs as a Dem. So the Socialists will feel right at home in MKE

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 08, 2019 03:31 PM (7ZQe3)

180 A question about Bloomberg.....is his campaign a tax write off? I mean, he's spending MILLIONS in a losing effort.

Didn't Trump spend like $300k or something?

What's in it for Gloomberg?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

181 Yes. But the investigation dragged Holder off the nationally competitive political stage.
Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:29 PM (oGFm1)

Nah, he presents himself as fully exonerated and heroic. He will give them the black vote.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:31 PM (U7k5w)

182 If'n I was a kid in that town?



Preplan a HUGE snowball fight for the next time it snowed.

---

Trebuchet.

Posted by: SMH at December 08, 2019 03:32 PM (RU4sa)

183 James Buchanan is said by some to have been ghey

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:33 PM (U7k5w)

184
I forgot which President like 100 years ago is thought to have been ghey

Posted by: Skip


James Buchanan. The epitome of expertise at the time. Representative, Senator, Secretary of State, Ambassador.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:33 PM (7rVsF)

185 There's a case for Bloomberg coming out of a pot-filled room in Milwaukee. Avoids the debates. Self-funding because the DNC is broke. Actually ran something. Everyone else is senile or crazy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:28 PM (7rVsF)


Bloomberg is a vanity candidate who can put espresso to sleep. He's a non-starter, as is Steyer, who comes across as a lunatic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:33 PM (hGXZE)

186
Bloomberg 2020

Little Man, Big Problems


Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:35 PM (kauXV)

187 With this flaming bag of poo as the Dem candidates, IMAGINE what the VP pool, emphasis on the poo, is going to look like.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:35 PM (Zz0t1)

188 179 18 Milwaukee trembles.

---

Actually, Milwaukee, historically, was home to several Socialist mayors. They still have one but he runs as a Dem. So the Socialists will feel right at home in MKE
Posted by: Pete Seria at December 08, 2019 03:31 PM (7ZQe3)


The socialists who will descend on Milwaukee will make the ones there look like pansies, because the newcomers will trash the place, pretty much guaranteed. I make the over/under on arrests at 250. Think Chicago 1968; that's what I think is in store for Milwaukee.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:35 PM (hGXZE)

189
Bloomberg is a vanity candidate who can put espresso to sleep.

True, but the media can present him as a caring, compassionate billionaire who's just folks. And who else do they have?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:35 PM (7rVsF)

190 Wasn't there a president that was a closet cross-dresser?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

191 Trebuchet.
Posted by: SMH at December 08, 2019 03:32 PM (RU4sa)

Well, grandpa did start out in the Cavalry (thought it would be a great way to meet girls) then transferred to the artillery when War Were Declared.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:36 PM (ycWCI)

192 190 Wasn't there a president that was a closet cross-dresser?
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:36 PM (Zz0t1)

That was the backroom charge against Hoover, IIRC.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:36 PM (ycWCI)

193
Wasn't there a president that was a closet cross-dresser?

Posted by: Sponge


J. Herbert Hoover

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:37 PM (7rVsF)

194 They named their magazine "Jacobin".

I have been referring to the SJW types as Jacobins for ages. I didn't mean it as a compliment.

What next? Planned Parenthood officially rebrands to Cultists of Moloch?

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 08, 2019 03:37 PM (rWZ8Y)

195 181 Yes. But the investigation dragged Holder off the nationally competitive political stage.
Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:29 PM (oGFm1)

Nah, he presents himself as fully exonerated and heroic. He will give them the black vote.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 03:31 PM (U7k5w)


Holder is the black hole of charisma; he swallows up any charisma in the room where it will never be seen again. He's here in California now, IIRC, and is scarcely heard from here. He's done, is my guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:37 PM (hGXZE)

196 35 And I still say none of the people running for the nomination now will get it. They truly are all un-electable so the DNC will nominate their candidate in Chicago.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 02:45 PM (mpXpK)


Rahm Emanuel?

Posted by: Hold The Phone at December 08, 2019 03:37 PM (9v1sv)

197 To many power Democrats have to know Hillary as a nominee is a suicide pact
Posted by: Skip
-----

I have all but abandoned any attempt to understand the Democrats...aside from the pathological lust for power.

The potential nominees are a walking freak show. If they ever were rational, and ever actually cared about the well-being of the country, such qualities are long gone.

It's as if the Dems stopped by the local insane asylum, and loaded up the bus with random nutters.

An honest, unprejudiced press would have thrown the BS flag on the lot of them a long time ago, but, in their ignorance they were co-opted a long time ago, and now are merely fellow-traveling Chatty Cathy quislings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (hnQOz)

198 nd of course the thick Brooklyn accent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (hGXZE)



I'm sure it's just me, but-

that goofy Brooklyn accent makes everyone who uses it sound retarded.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (kauXV)

199 "And that's probably going to be Warren's
undoing: the DNC needs those big checks because it's broke, and knows
that nominating Warren would torpedo chances of getting those checks" Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

yeah, she has an America First idea that blames WallStreet, and that may be why she has fallen. But if she got traction, WallStreet would deal with her, and her rhetoric is obviously not linked to her (fake Indian) actions (like all the leftists, and half the Repubs, mostly puppets).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (Cus5s)

200 Holder is the black hole of charisma; he swallows up any charisma in the room where it will never be seen again. He's here in California now, IIRC, and is scarcely heard from here. He's done, is my guess.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:37 PM (hGXZE)

Holder is actually running? I thought that was a joke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (ycWCI)

201 That was the backroom charge against Hoover, IIRC.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:36 PM (ycWCI)


KGB disinformation, per Harvey Klehr's book(s).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (hGXZE)

202 Rahm's brother will euthanize his campaign.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (d5Ayn)

203

A pot filled room? That would be interesting.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

Jack Straw's budoir?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (ufFY8)

204 I'M RIGHT HERE!!!

Posted by: Cory Booker, stomping his little feet and crying tears of rage at December 08, 2019 03:39 PM (IttZ7)

205 Hillary! is a horrible candidate, but given the choices, is she the best of a bad lot?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:39 PM (ycWCI)

206 Subconsciously the leftists are always comparing their talentless candidates to Trump, and it makes them sad.

Posted by: Mr. W at December 08, 2019 03:39 PM (2cPC8)

207 Holder is actually running? I thought that was a joke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (ycWCI)


He's not running AFAIK. He's here in the capacity of an advisor to some Red outfit that I don't remember, but he could be in witness protection for all anybody here knows.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:40 PM (hGXZE)

208 Ace is now fully allied with Putin who also wants to divide Americans into two or more camps
United we stand, divided we fall

Posted by: Kurt at December 08, 2019 03:40 PM (9iIzt)

209 Hey look, squid-boi is back

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:40 PM (d5Ayn)

210 205 Hillary! is a horrible candidate, but given the choices, is she the best of a bad lot?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:39 PM (ycWCI)


That's my guess. She or Biden is their best shot. The others? Nah. I bet the DNC's internal polls will show that too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (hGXZE)

211 198 nd of course the thick Brooklyn accent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:30 PM (hGXZE)


I'm sure it's just me, but-

that goofy Brooklyn accent makes everyone who uses it sound retarded.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (kauXV)

I have a lady friend who's from Brooklyn. When we've tried to talk on the phone I've understood only every other word.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (Uu+Jp)

212 Milwaukee is doing a fine job of trashing itself ahead of the proceedings.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (J3Rfi)

213 209 Hey look, squid-boi is back
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:40 PM (d5Ayn)

Kurt is actually Kurt Eichenwald?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (NWiLs)

214 149 135 Which of the remaining clown car candidates would put up the best fight at the debates with Trump?
Posted by: Downcast at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (m98YK)

Which house cat would do best in a fight with a honey badger?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 03:21 PM (V2Yro)

heh

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (oGFm1)

215 Yeah, but which President had the most sex?










Millard Fillmore!!!


Thank you. Thank you.

Try not to rape the waitress or the veal.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (kauXV)

216 Gay? James Buchanan or Edgar Buchanan? Both?

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (RuIsu)

217
No, they see it as a rematch. Rocky II
Posted by: CN
-----

With Hilz in the role of Appalling Greed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (hnQOz)

218 They named their magazine Jacobin? What, Gulag was taken?

Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (WqPYg)

219 That's my guess. She or Biden is their best shot. The others? Nah. I bet the DNC's internal polls will show that too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (hGXZE)

My read as well, and sadly she might be better than Joe. Joe actually has less baggage, but he seems more unstable these days- which is just hilarious when you think about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (ycWCI)

220 218 They named their magazine Jacobin? What, Gulag was taken?
Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (WqPYg)

Killing Fields was too on the nose.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:43 PM (ycWCI)

221 Yeah it was Ace who had that reset button with the Russians, sold them out Uranium mines, stopped armaments to Ukraine, said he had more flexibly after the election.

Project often Kurt?

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 03:43 PM (ZCEU2)

222 Posted by: Kurt at December 08, 2019 03:40 PM (9iIzt)

Posted by the catamite of a party that rolls around in the pig sty of identity politics.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:44 PM (hGXZE)

223 189
Bloomberg is a vanity candidate who can put espresso to sleep.

True, but the media can present him as a caring, compassionate billionaire who's just folks. And who else do they have?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:35 PM (7rVsF)

As I've said even before the midget got into the race, all Trump has to do at the first debate is walk out with a Big Gulp and a plastic straw, and call him Nanny Bloomberg.

It would be epic.

And Trump would do it.

Posted by: Marybeth at December 08, 2019 03:44 PM (4pK1/)

224 No one has proven otherwise...

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:44 PM (d5Ayn)

225 Holder is actually running? I thought that was a joke.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:38 PM (ycWCI)


Last I heard, he was all pissed off that Owebama wasn't in his corner, blowing begging him to run.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:44 PM (Zz0t1)

226 Kurt is actually Kurt Eichenwald?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 03:41 PM (NWiLs)

All Kurts are Kurt Eichenwald.*

*make sure to say it with the fey German 'Kuuuurt'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:45 PM (ycWCI)

227 218 They named their magazine Jacobin? What, Gulag was taken?
Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (WqPYg)

I just listened to an audio book that had a chapter on the French revolution, specifically Danton but also the overall revolution. By the time it was finished pretty much everybody had be guillotined.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:45 PM (Uu+Jp)

228 Posted by: Kurt at December 08, 2019 03:40 PM (9iIzt)

Hey! Look everybody!! POOT's here!!!

That would explain the sudden smell of shit.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

229 'catamite' is a good word we should use more often. I have said this before.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:46 PM (ycWCI)

230 No, they see it as a rematch. Rocky II

Posted by: CN

-----



With Hilz in the role of Appalling Greed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (hnQOz)

_______



With Bill Clinton as Clubber Bang.

Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 03:46 PM (WqPYg)

231 Considering socialism's track record, a socialist cannot have a heart either.

Posted by: pst314 at December 08, 2019 03:47 PM (iRbDn)

232
'catamite' is a good word we should use more often. I have said this before.
=====

I come from the land down under . . . he just smiled and gave me a catamite sandwich.

Posted by: mustbequantum at December 08, 2019 03:47 PM (MIKMs)

233 Bill Clinton had better stay far far away from Hillary or she just might succeed in getting a sympathy vote when he croaks.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:48 PM (d5Ayn)

234 No, they see it as a rematch. Rocky II

Posted by: CN


That'll be the branding, if she gets the nomination.

"The Rematch: This Time, It's Personal"

She's already been bleating about how she could beat Trump again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:48 PM (hGXZE)

235
That catamite catch that mouse.


Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 03:48 PM (kauXV)

236 Oi Mate, or that be a Veganmite sammich? Got to consider the audience.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:48 PM (d5Ayn)

237
Another possibility: that distinguished journalist, financier and health care expert, Chelsea Clinton.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (7rVsF)

238 I have to agree about Putin. Clearly, Trump is a Russian puppet. The whispered comms with the Rooskie ambassador, the tens of millions of dollars from the Uranium One deals, the denial of aid to Ukraine, the millions spent on fake dossiers, the back-door oil/gas deals...oh...wait a minute...that wasn't Trump.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (d4+cE)

239 - - - As I've said even before the midget got into the race, all Trump has to do at the first debate is walk out with a Big Gulp and a plastic straw, and call him Nanny Bloomberg.

It would be epic.

And Trump would do it.

Posted by: Marybeth at December 08, 2019 03:44 PM (4pK1/)


That's just rude.

Posted by: Miss Nancy at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (9v1sv)

240 Vegemite might be Vegan, who the hell knows with that stuff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (ycWCI)

241 231 Considering socialism's track record, a socialist cannot have a heart either.
Posted by: pst314 at December 08, 2019 03:47 PM (iRbDn)


Which socialists (i.e., communists) assiduously airbrush out of the picture.

"Socialism is about fairness, and equality, and sharing. You know, like in Sweden."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (hGXZE)

242 Another possibility: that distinguished journalist, financier and health care expert, Chelsea Clinton.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (7rVsF)

She got her mother's charisma.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (ycWCI)

243 Who in the U.S. has been clearly identified as not being a Russian Asset?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (Uu+Jp)

244 Posted by the catamite of a party that rolls around in the pig sty of identity politics.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:44 PM (hGXZE)

______


LOL. If Kurt goes both ways, does that make him a catamytic converter?

Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (WqPYg)

245 Compared to Chelsea Clinton, wallpaper has a personality.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (d5Ayn)

246 I was nominally a Democrat when I was 20 - family inertia truth be told; but I was a Rush Conservative by 23.

Started paying attention, you see.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (ijEPD)

247 240 Vegemite might be Vegan, who the hell knows with that stuff.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (ycWCI)


Fun fact: Vegemite (and Marmite, its Brit counterpart) consists of the dead yeast left after brewing beer.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (hGXZE)

248 Just watched that clip of Graham on Maria Bartiromo show and yep he said he'd hear the dems case then hold a vote..

Im pretty sure the President can demand witnesses though..

But even so for Lindsey to say this is... disheartening at best. I wouldn't trust the GOPe in the Senate as far as I can throw them.

Why.. WHY does the biggest threat to our side come from within? Jesus H..

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (aR6C/)

249 229
'catamite' is a good word we should use more often. I have said this before.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:46 PM (ycWCI)

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"It was the afternoon of my eighty-first birthday, and I was in bed with my catamite when Ali announced that the archbishop had come to see me."

First sentence of Earthly Powers, by Anthony Burgess

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (IttZ7)

250
I know, I'm just being silly today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (7rVsF)

251 242 Another possibility: that distinguished journalist, financier and health care expert, Chelsea Clinton.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:49 PM (7rVsF)

She got her mother's charisma.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (ycWCI)


And charm. Sadly, she didn't get her mother's looks. Such as they are.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (hGXZE)

252 Fun fact: Vegemite (and Marmite, its Brit counterpart) consists of the dead yeast left after brewing beer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (hGXZE)


As much as I like beer I don't think I'll be trying that anytime soon.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (Uu+Jp)

253
I come from the land down under . . . he just smiled and gave me a catamite sandwich.
Posted by: mustbequantum

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Ooooo. Is he 6' 4" and full of muscles?

Posted by: Sheppie at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (d4+cE)

254 217 No, they see it as a rematch. Rocky II
Posted by: CN
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With Hilz in the role of Appalling Greed?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:42 PM (hnQOz)

hahahahaha

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 03:52 PM (oGFm1)

255 Tonypete! Paging Tonypete. Are you in the house? Semolina bread recipe question from Heidi and Bob at the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Heidi at December 08, 2019 03:52 PM (VqhL9)

256 Considering socialism's track record, a socialist cannot have a heart either.

Posted by: pst314 at December 08, 2019 03:47 PM (iRbDn)

===
Sure they do but it just someone else's. Most likely several million someone else's.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 08, 2019 03:52 PM (pw+jk)

257 As much as I like beer I don't think I'll be trying that anytime soon.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:51 PM (Uu+Jp)

I've heard it is... distinctive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:52 PM (ycWCI)

258
Earthly Powers, by Anthony Burgess

Excellent book

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:52 PM (7rVsF)

259 As much as I like beer I don't think I'll be trying that anytime soon.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods
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Just before going with Buffalo Dung beer.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:53 PM (d4+cE)

260 248 Just watched that clip of Graham on Maria Bartiromo show and yep he said he'd hear the dems case then hold a vote..


Did Maria bi_ _ h slap him and ask where are the hearings you promised?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (9v1sv)

261 Back when I used to read Australian blogger Tim Blair he offered to send a sample of vegemite to all his readers.
I never got mine.

Is he still blogging?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (Uu+Jp)

262 Graham on Maria Bartiromo show and yep he said he'd hear the dems case then hold a vote..

Gives some future defendants a chance to practice their humina-humina-humina to a live audience before court.

Posted by: DaveA at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (FhXTo)

263 Just watched that clip of Graham on Maria Bartiromo show and yep he said he'd hear the dems case then hold a vote..

Im pretty sure the President can demand witnesses though..

But even so for Lindsey to say this is... disheartening at best. I wouldn't trust the GOPe in the Senate as far as I can throw them.


I have to respectfully disagree. If Graham were merely to scotch the whole thing out of hand, the Reds would have a propaganda field day. That is the best scenario for them. "What are the Republicans afraid of? What are they hiding?"

Hearing out the Dems' case - preferably on national television - would make clear to any open-minded observer that they're pretty much just whacking off, out of purely partisan pique, and wasting everyone's time in the process.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (hGXZE)

264 so, what percentage of the democrats party is socialist? 1/3? 1/2?

based on the polling of the dem candidates over the past year it would seem to be in that range.

Posted by: mjc at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (Pg+x7)

265 246 I was nominally a Democrat when I was 20 - family inertia truth be told; but I was a Rush Conservative by 23.

Started paying attention, you see.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at December 08, 2019 03:50 PM (ijEPD)

Grandma and Grandpa were old school conservative democrats. The first time I ever heard about Rush was when grandma was telling my Dad she listened to him (Rush) on the radio and was wishing he would run for president.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (ycWCI)

266 Warren is now in single digits in at least one poll.

Posted by: Baldy at December 08, 2019 03:56 PM (+EDVk)

267 Henceforth I shall refer to Butterjug as 'The Catamite'. An object kept at hand for the Democrats use.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:56 PM (61e6C)

268 I've heard it is... distinctive.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:52 PM (ycWCI)


I've had it. It's awful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 03:57 PM (hGXZE)

269 264 so, what percentage of the democrats party is socialist? 1/3? 1/2?

based on the polling of the dem candidates over the past year it would seem to be in that range.
Posted by: mjc at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (Pg+x7)

I'd say the percentage of self declared is higher. The thing is these hamsters have no idea what socialism actually is.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:57 PM (ycWCI)

270 267 Henceforth I shall refer to Butterjug as 'The Catamite'. An object kept at hand for the Democrats use.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 03:56 PM (61e6C)

Pete Catamite.

I like it. Descriptive and easier to pronounce.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:58 PM (ycWCI)

271 Journalist QUITS After Outlet REFUSES Story On Massive Syria Scandal, Was Tucker Carlson Right?? TimCast

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gMbuRRemzYQ

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 08, 2019 03:58 PM (W0wjb)

272 The first time I ever voted I voted for the NDP. Then I grew up.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:58 PM (Uu+Jp)

273
Graham on Maria Bartiromo show

Haven't seen her in years. Is she still?... (*draws outline with hands*)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:58 PM (7rVsF)

274 Shouldn't socialists insist that all votes in the Dem primaries be equally divided among the candidates?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 03:59 PM (Uu+Jp)

275 264
so, what percentage of the democrats party is socialist? 1/3? 1/2?



based on the polling of the dem candidates over the past year it would seem to be in that range.

Posted by: mjc at December 08, 2019 03:55 PM (Pg+x7)

_______


As interesting of a question as that is, the non-socialists will vote for a socialist over an evil Republican every time.


A perfect example is Alan Deshowitz. In Prager and Carolla's movie "No Safe Spaces" he acknowledges that the Left is a far greater threat to "liberals" like him than is the right (probably moreso now that he's been cancelled owing to #MeToo and #EpsteinDidn'tKillHimself). Yet, he voted for DogEater and Killary, and he'd certainly vote for any socialist running as a D over any R. Cognitive Dissonance is not just a river in Egypt ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 04:00 PM (WqPYg)

276 Haven't seen her in years. Is she still?... (*draws outline with hands*)



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 03:58 PM (7rVsF)

Her bewbs are probably bigger because the rest of her is getting bigger.
Still a One, though.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 08, 2019 04:00 PM (ufFY8)

277 The Bernie Bots correctly think that, if elected, Warren will cut a deal with big business. Warren has had no problems working for large corporations in the past.

What you will see under Warren will be wealth taxes and business taxes, with lots and lots of exemptions. Obviously, companies making solar panels shouldn't be subject to punitive business taxes, and the billionaires who invest in them shouldn't be subject to punitive wealth taxes.

Before it's over, only Republicans investing in oil and gas firms will be subject to the new taxes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2019 04:00 PM (I2/tG)

278
Dear Mr. Bezos,
I object strenuously to your use of my "Ave Maria" in your commercials and demand you cease and desist immediately, otherwise my attorneys have been directed to seek damages.

Yours sincerely,
Zombie Franz Schubert

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 04:02 PM (7rVsF)

279 Corn Pop could very well be nominated in a brokered convention.

Posted by: CNN at December 08, 2019 04:03 PM (EgshT)

280 Nood.

Posted by: HH at December 08, 2019 04:03 PM (mIJBI)

281 Hmmm, you'd think a car thief would invest in learning how to drive a stick shift.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 04:04 PM (ycWCI)

282 Hmmm, you'd think a car thief would invest in learning how to drive a stick shift.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
--------

A couple I know have a stick shift Subbie. Twice there have been problems when they visited spots with valet parking. Valets no could drive it.

Jeebers. It's not like rocket surgery.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 04:07 PM (kXJSE)

283 'catamite' is a good word we should use more often. I have said this before.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 08, 2019 03:46 PM (ycWCI)


I feel similar to 'shenanigans.' I think that's a word that should make it into the vernacular more.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 04:09 PM (Zz0t1)

284 Milwaukee is a great place if you're into drive by shootings, red light runners and car jackings. 99.999% of these committed by Dems, of course. With Bail Free quick release as an added bonus for those low on cash

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (7ZQe3)

285 Here's the Fox News clip of Bartiromo and Graham.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ro3ys9q

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 04:10 PM (oGFm1)

The Rule Of Law Is A Marvelous Thing, Unless It Fails The People

Is this what is coming in America? When it is blatantly obvious that some are above the law, are the good and not-so-good people of this country going to take matters into their own hands?

India Police Kill 4 Rape Suspects Already In Custody

Police said they needed to question the suspects at the crime scene — before daybreak — to have them retrace their steps and collect more evidence.

But by sunrise, all four suspects had been shot dead by police. They had yet to be charged.

"Law has done its duty," the top police official on the case, V.C. Sajjanar, told reporters at a news conference.

Not for the failures of violent crime tactics (although there are numerous failings on that front) but for the increasingly common assumption that there certain classes of people, namely politicians and the rich, who are actively protected by the government legal apparatus. They are afforded privileges to which we have no access. And even worse, that government legal apparatus has been weaponized for the craven political and financial desires of the chosen few.

How will this play out? Will the elites -- the Deep StateTM -- win out? Will they retain control of the whip hand of government and continue their campaign to cow into total submission the people of America? Or will there be a sea change? One that takes back the power to control our government, rather than be controlled?

I have no idea.

Posted by: CBD at 12:20 PM




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1 First?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (Dhht7)

2 I'll get the others

Posted by: Max Power at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (QCc6B)

3 th

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (B8eTP)

4 rd

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (B8eTP)

5 I nooded them.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (Dhht7)

6 Aaron! Sill wrong

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (B8eTP)

7 Not Aaron -- aargh! Darned spchk

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 12:23 PM (B8eTP)

8 I think the sign says "Out to Lunch"

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 12:24 PM (B8eTP)

9
We haven't decided if they committed suicide or died trying to escape.

Posted by: Captain Vijay Renault at December 08, 2019 12:24 PM (7rVsF)

10 I am hoping for sea change, but not optimistic. The "elites" are financially dependent on selling us out, so they will need more than a few scabby reports recommending training

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:25 PM (U7k5w)

11 India is just trying to catch up. Ruby Ridge and Waco happened a couple of decades ago, didn't they?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 08, 2019 12:26 PM (0GvUH)

12 The cops shooting shit up in Florida should probably be a wake up call.

We have cops getting killed, we have people killed by cops. None of it makes sense.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 12:27 PM (ZfRYq)

13
For one second I read "Indiana police," but it's India. God only knows what other elements there are to the story. The cops might be heroes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 08, 2019 12:28 PM (13CQC)

14 Under our now two tier system it's going to really suck.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 12:28 PM (ZCEU2)

15 India? Yikes.

That shit wouldn't happen here.

Posted by: Epstein at December 08, 2019 12:29 PM (6A9Kg)

16 The overwhelming number of people in power are fully invested in the status quo. How many oxen are gored by Trump's changes in power structure?

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 12:29 PM (B8eTP)

17 I don't know either. It would seem on one hand that we won't get "there" through elections. On the other hand, elections gave us Trump, the single most important reform agent in our time. (Reagan was not a reformist; dealing with corruption was not his beat). Ultimately you must come up with the right (and right number) of people sufficient to implement reform across the sprawling reaches of the government. Don't you? How else can it be done?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 12:29 PM (H8QX8)

18 How will this play out? Will the elites -- the Deep StateTM -- win out? Will they retain control of the whip hand of government and continue their campaign to cow into total submission the people of America? Or will there be a sea change? One that takes back the power to control our government, rather than be controlled?


==


I am optimistic. Not with the "we won't solve this at the ballot box" crowd at all. Because the ballot box has proven effective. Tea party revolution, Trump. We just need to be smarter. A lot smarter, leaner, meaner. Not take all for granted and constantly work at maintaining gains. And stop complaining.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:31 PM (zr5Kq)

19 I don't know either. It would seem on one hand that we won't get "there" through elections. On the other hand, elections gave us Trump, the single most important reform agent in our time.

--

Without Trump winning we never would've known how f*cked we already were.

Sadly we'll just go back to sleep after he's gone. We'll remember we're f*cked, but we'll let them keep doing it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rainbow flags on men indicate poop is a major sexual turn on at December 08, 2019 12:32 PM (dSvao)

20 Ultimately you must come up with the right (and
right number) of people sufficient to implement reform across the
sprawling reaches of the government. Don't you? How else can it be done?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 12:29 PM (H8QX

Of course! The question is whether it will happen or will we be subsumed by the Deep State and its corruption.

And my "I have no idea" wasn't rhetorical!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2019 12:32 PM (wYseH)

21
In a modern day Horatio Alger story, even a poor boy can, through luck and pluck, become a director of a Ukrainian gas company for $80,000 a month.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 12:33 PM (7rVsF)

22 It's already here. See, e.g., the events in Broward just the other day. Cops expending a couple hundred rounds into a UPS truck with a hostage in it, in rush hour traffic, using innocent bystanders as meat shields, and killing both the hostage and some poor bastard just sitting in his car. These fucker made Judge Dredd look restrained.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:33 PM (NWiLs)

23 These *fuckers*

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:34 PM (NWiLs)

24 It doesn't surprise me in countries that most justice is a two or three tier system those who can go around it. Corrupt countries which are most of the world it might be your only hope.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 12:34 PM (ZCEU2)

25 Re-examining deTocqueville's observations of life in America in the 1830's he made a couple of relevant points.

1. At the time the relative paucity of a federal bureaucracy meant that towns and localities were relatively self-governed by civic minded citizens.

2. He predicted that rise of pure democracy or "mob-rule" would lead to erosion of the '"rule of law" to be replaced by rule by the passions of the people.

Witness today's Twitter mobs and doxxing, coupled with an unelected bureaucratic state.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 12:34 PM (m45I2)

26 Thanks for the new thread, CBD!

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 12:35 PM (oGFm1)

27 401 bomb shelter?

Compromise. Bathroom underground.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2019 12:36 PM (V5bdY)

28 It was a really good movies on Netflix about what's going on in India

One was about this girl that was Raped and Killed guys that did it real rich and what they did was they paid off witnesses so that he would be found not guilty, it's based on a true story

The other one is about the caste system, these little girls were turning up dead no one cared because they were from the lowest cast in India, and the new police chief that's in charge is from the big city and he doesn't get what's going on. I mean it was fascinating because some of the villagers would refuse to shake their hands or even be near them. I'm just glad we don't have that class system here yet I mean yet

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 08, 2019 12:36 PM (dKiJG)

29
Cops expending a couple hundred rounds into a UPS truck with a hostage in it, in rush hour traffic, using innocent bystanders as meat shields, and killing both the hostage and some poor bastard just sitting in his car.

My betters tell me only law-enforcement officials have the training to use firearms responsibly.

*tugs forelock respectfully*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 12:36 PM (7rVsF)

30 Insomniac- my view in war and in civilian shootouts when lead is flying their not aiming their spraying.
Hate to otherwise comment on a matter I have not read a account of yet

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 12:38 PM (ZCEU2)

31 Hmmm. Yes but no. Shouldn't the citizens be shooting the cops--you know--the ones who are going all-in on defending the Deep State?

Posted by: Le Stain du Poop at December 08, 2019 12:38 PM (JFkWq)

32 I am sorry-- I meant to say "their MASTERS at the Deep State"....

Posted by: Le Stain du Poop at December 08, 2019 12:39 PM (JFkWq)

33 I don't know what to think. If the 4 suspects were actually the violent thugs who raped and killed the victim I sympathize with the police for deciding not to risk the courts giving the thugs a pass. But I don't trust police anymore than the courts and if they don't face consequences for this even if they had the actual thugs; future police somewhere in India will end up shooting someone who was falsely accused of rape or murder by some vile coward looking for 3rd party revenge.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 08, 2019 12:40 PM (n4y+3)

34 He predicted that rise of pure democracy or "mob-rule" would lead to erosion of the '"rule of law" to be replaced by rule by the passions of the people.


=

In other words anarchy ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:40 PM (zr5Kq)

35 If a gang of vigilantes take Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Mueller and Weissman to the the Hoover Building in the middle of the night to "retrace their steps," it'll be the only way any of them face any kind of justice. That whole rule of law thing was nice while it lasted, but that's in the past.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 12:40 PM (IYcBz)

36 -- Is this what is coming in America? When it is blatantly obvious that some are above the law, are the good and not-so-good people of this country going to take matters into their own hands? --

Not to put too fine a point on it: Yes! Indeed, it might already be in progress. And for my money, it's about time.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at December 08, 2019 12:40 PM (RmBQf)

37 The TEA Party revolution was still just the (R)s using us for our votes before stabbing us in the back, though, wasn't it?

The next step is not voting, which brings in full on leftists. That's what they're banking on to stay in power, and they're mostly right.

The out-of-power left gets the NRA to push gun bans after a shooting that was forgotten the next week, and we get tax cuts that will expire with (R) majorities in Congress and and the most conservative president since Coolidge.

Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rainbow flags on men indicate poop is a major sexual turn on at December 08, 2019 12:40 PM (dSvao)

38 Rockers have groupies.

Globlist have ??

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2019 12:41 PM (V5bdY)

39 I suspect it's going to require a significant portion of the country (perhaps 1/3 as during the American Revolution) to have a "nothing left to lose" attitude ("Freedom's just another word ...), which will likely only result after some devastating black swan event like the economy crashing.


Another scenario that I've always believed would precipitate CWII would be when they start going door-to-door to confiscate firearms -- which I suspect would create a division in the military and LEO groups.


But yeah, I can see increased vigilantism before then with a nakedly overt in-your-face two-tiered justice system. Those who make criminal justice impossible will make vigilante justice inevitable.

Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 12:41 PM (WqPYg)

40 30 Insomniac- my view in war and in civilian shootouts when lead is flying their not aiming their spraying.
Hate to otherwise comment on a matter I have not read a account of yet
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 12:38 PM (ZCEU2)

Lots of lethal firepower, marginal intelligence, high adrenaline, sub-optimal training, density of civilians. Not good combination.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 12:41 PM (H8QX8)

41 Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:33 PM (NWiLs)

I guess a better written post would have included a link to that event.

Oh...wait!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2019 12:42 PM (wYseH)

42 Maybe one of the worst news conferences ever. She may have used every cliche possible. Total bullshit!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at December 08, 2019 12:42 PM (vGJY7)

43 35 If a gang of vigilantes take Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Mueller and Weissman to the the Hoover Building in the middle of the night to "retrace their steps," it'll be the only way any of them face any kind of justice. That whole rule of law thing was nice while it lasted, but that's in the past.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 12:40 PM (IYcBz)

Yes.. If they can let Hillary off with serious crimes with no intent, but punish PDT for zero crimes and imaginary intent, we are truly fucked. We live in Bolshevik land.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:42 PM (U7k5w)

44 Ultimately someone will demand a Ceaucescu dance of the deep state. That is unless this globalist NGO money laundering cabal can be jailed first.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 12:43 PM (J3Rfi)

45 The Movie is called ARTICLE 15, I really just found the moving very fascinating.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 08, 2019 12:43 PM (dKiJG)

46 One could argue you're describing what already exists, and has existed for decades, in black communities all across the country. And it's increasingly hitting poorer white communities as well.

The law is the enemy, because it's enforced to reward the status quo power structure, and the people who are ground up in it see themselves as a commodity.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2019 12:43 PM (hku12)

47 That whole rule of law thing was nice while it lasted, but that's in the past.

=

Don't start the revolution without me.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:44 PM (zr5Kq)

48 The same people who no longer discuss the debt or deficit also aren't discussing disbanding the FBI and CIA.

So yeah, we've already chosen the road we're on.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Rainbow flags on men indicate poop is a major sexual turn on at December 08, 2019 12:44 PM (dSvao)

49 Bread and circuses.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:45 PM (zr5Kq)

50 I don't know how you fight against either a deep state ruling power or a deep state bureaucratic nightmare. You can't vote them out, they are funded by unknown budgets, the prosecutors won't prosecute themselves, they can ignore all politicians, they don't care if they lose a limb here or there because they have deep roots.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2019 12:46 PM (r+sAi)

51

In the old Western movies the lynch mob broke in to the jail and hanged the suspect. In India the sheriff beats them to the punch.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 12:47 PM (aKsyK)

52 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:47 PM (9gDA7)

53 We take root stimulator. We give them 007's piss.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2019 12:49 PM (V5bdY)

54 This is the future. I'm here to say, I wholeheartedly believe that if the dems are allowed to continue the Schiff show against Trump and GET AWAY with it, unscathed, your government will stop at nothing to convert you to want they want you to be, or kill you.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:49 PM (9gDA7)

55 41 Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:33 PM (NWiLs)

I guess a better written post would have included a link to that event.

Oh...wait!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2019 12:42 PM (wYseH)

Yeah, but that was yesterday. That's, like, a thousand years ago in Internet time!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:49 PM (NWiLs)

56 50: Continuing resolutions mean no oversight. And I agree with the prosecutors, the whole system is so incestuous that entire extended families live off the DC mess or are part of the media. The limbs they lose will have to be physical freedoms before a change is made. It's a hideous nightmare.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:49 PM (U7k5w)

57 Welp, the emergency is done. Yay me!


Yeah, the extra grim unexpected consequences (if you have a shoe size IQ) -

of the Democrats New Policies of

Mob Violence
Destruction of the Rule of Law
Encouraging Racial Hatred and Violence
Establishment of a De Facto Royalty unanswerable to Law and the Citizens of the USA
Destruction of Societal and Moral Norms
Gleeful Destruction of the Middle and Working Classes
Destruction of the Free Market with Socialism/Communism as the new social/economic system
Benefits such as healthcare, etc predicated on political beliefs

are all pretty obvious.

But, yeah, who will win?

That's the question, isn't it?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 12:50 PM (9X624)

58 Justice is just another marketplace. If the established provider, the courts/penal system, fails to provide it, black-market providers will arise.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:51 PM (/sgva)

59 54 This is the future. I'm here to say, I wholeheartedly believe that if the dems are allowed to continue the Schiff show against Trump and GET AWAY with it, unscathed, your government will stop at nothing to convert you to want they want you to be, or kill you.
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:49 PM (9gDA7)

I think people like Cass Sunstein and Schiff would gladly kill us.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:52 PM (U7k5w)

60 Deep state has a lifeblood. In reality, it is this or other side of capital that is funding deep state. We have a nice fusion of capitalism (free markets as it were) and constitutional republicanism. At the end, business is business, and deep state became bad for business. That is one of many reasons why we got Trump.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)

61 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:47 PM (9gDA7)


nice job, you are getting better at it, still, not there yet.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:53 PM (zr5Kq)

62 Watching FBI presser on Pensacola shooter. Plain stonewalling, sounds like a presser from the Vegas shooting. I'll bet a nickel that once again, this guy was previously reported as a threat, or even working for the worthless FBI.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 12:54 PM (IYcBz)

63 The good news is that Comey did not intend to have a coup "unlawfully ".

So is all good v

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 12:54 PM (ZfRYq)

64 It ultimately hinges on the definition of "us".

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 12:54 PM (m45I2)

65 Obama was better for business than McCain, obama won.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:55 PM (zr5Kq)

66
I think people like Cass Sunstein and Schiff would gladly kill us.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:52 PM (U7k5w)


I think the left / Dems certainly want to kill us. They're for open boarders. They're for importing "refugees" from the middle east. They're for disarming the law abiding so the lawless and kill at will.

They're showing with no consequence they're out to transform this nation whether you'll come along or not. IF not, you're expendable and they'll import the killers to do it.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:55 PM (9gDA7)

67 Nadler was on Chuck Todds screed this morning saying Trump is rigging the 2020 election. Seems the other side WANTS a civil war. Unbelievable.

Now to bread and circuses, er beer and football.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 12:55 PM (J3Rfi)

68 In India, rape and murder happen when you go to jail.

It's called the "Detroit" model of incarceration.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 12:55 PM (Z+IKu)

69 At least Wall street thought that baracka was better for them than McCain.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:55 PM (zr5Kq)

70 They got away with Kavanaugh.

So of course they are doing what they are doing.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 12:56 PM (ZfRYq)

71 President Warren sends in Federal Relocation Bureau Conscripts to round up stragglers in push to re-beautify America's interior parklands. New Green Deal Population Adjustment Centers filled to capacity, Secretary of Climate Science Compliance Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recommends larger incinerators.

Posted by: Green Government News headlines 2028 at December 08, 2019 12:56 PM (2F6tK)

72 Why does the press fall over themselves to cover a press conference in which absolutely no NEW information is going to be revealed?

I know why, but just saying

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 12:56 PM (o1fzk)

73 Trump is a billionaire with an entire army of lawyers working 24-7 to counter the attack.

Imagine how trivially easy it would be to destroy Joe the Plumber.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 08, 2019 12:56 PM (0GvUH)

74 I think the left / Dems certainly want to kill us.

=

I think they want us to shut up and sit down.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:57 PM (zr5Kq)

75 I think people like Cass Sunstein and Schiff would gladly kill us.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:52 PM (U7k5w)


If we didn't consent to re-education, certainly.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 12:57 PM (H8QX8)

76 Or will there be a sea change?

It will take a tsunami, which I think is building. I'm waiting to see what happens with Jesse Watters. That was an important development last night.

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2019 12:57 PM (1+J19)

77 They got away with Bork. They did not get away with Kavanaugh.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:58 PM (zr5Kq)

78 62 Watching FBI presser on Pensacola shooter. Plain stonewalling, sounds like a presser from the Vegas shooting. I'll bet a nickel that once again, this guy was previously reported as a threat, or even working for the worthless FBI.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 12:54 PM (IYcBz)

They've turned into one of the most monstrously corrupt institutions on the planet. Trump should have fired Wray after the CNN alert on Roger Stone. Even Chris Christie would have been better, but alas, Ivanka's FIL did time because of Chris

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:58 PM (U7k5w)

79 How is Trump "rigging" 2020?

By mentioning Biden in that stupid phone call?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 12:58 PM (o1fzk)

80
Until a leader rises on our side, fearless, intelligent, ruthless, charismatic, wily and pious, and calls up the militia to get the mobilization going,....

we are their bitches.

Posted by: Sapwolf at December 08, 2019 12:58 PM (nuv3n)

81
I think they want us to shut up and sit down.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:57 PM (zr5Kq)


That goes along with it. If you don't, they'll move some refugees into your area, or find some tax evasion.....or sick antifa loose on you.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:58 PM (9gDA7)

82 'm waiting to see what happens with Jesse Watters. That was an important development last night.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2019 12:57 PM (1+J19)

I must have missed that. What happened?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 12:59 PM (H8QX8)

83 One that takes back the power to control our government, rather than be controlled?

Louis XVI nods sadly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 12:59 PM (hGXZE)

84 Right now I have no faith in anyone in charge. I hope Barr proves me wrong.

Posted by: Iblis at December 08, 2019 01:00 PM (1mpw4)

85 Used to be that press conferences were designed to keep the public informed--and calm.

Now they keep the public UNinformed--and on edge.

Orwellian.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:00 PM (o1fzk)

86 Memba when the Dems were saying it was unAmerican to question the integrity of elections?

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:00 PM (ZfRYq)

87 The Declaration says it is our responsibility to throw off a tyrannical government ...

I'd say the reasonable measures have been tried -- but rejected by the tyrants ... and the strategic shooting should have begun ... ? well, at any number of inflection points.

* Nixon taken out by DeepState? ...

* Dems refusing to give Ford money to back up the S Vietnamese we left marooned? ...

* Clinton and ChinaGate? ...
* almost everything Obama/Hillary did?

*New Deal, Square Deal, Great Society?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 01:00 PM (Cus5s)

88 However, to comment on the actual blog post, I have no doubt that there are small towns with corrupt law enforcement as you've seen on TV and in movies as "fiction."

Art imitates life imitates art.

My wife watches Chitcago PD and they portray shit like this ALL the time.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:00 PM (9gDA7)

89 How is Trump "rigging" 2020?

By mentioning Biden in that stupid phone call?
Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 12:58 PM (o1fzk)

Maybe by actually delivering on at least some of his election promises? Democrats hate that; sets an impossible bar for them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 01:02 PM (/sgva)

90 @77 they absolutely got away with what they did to Kavanaugh. No one on the left paid a price for the false accusations and perjury. In fact they were enriched.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:02 PM (ZfRYq)

91 Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:02 PM (ZfRYq)

AG Rosenstein was never going to prosecute his donk buddies.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:03 PM (U7k5w)

92 That India thing--the story I read dis not give the ethnic background of either the victim or the suspects.
Was in Muzzie on Hindu? Vise-versa ?

That would explain the celebrations by the townspeople.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:03 PM (o1fzk)

93 @77 they absolutely got away with what they did to Kavanaugh. No one on the left paid a price for the false accusations and perjury. In fact they were enriched.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:02 PM (ZfRYq)

That's why a Senate impeachment trial would be Kavanaugh on steroids.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (H8QX8)

94 They achieved nothing with their crap impeachment theater. Only trivialized the impact of that word and that process. It has become like divorce. Before it was shocking, unheard of and shameful. Now everyone is doing it.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (zr5Kq)

95 Blaster - was thinking today along those lines. The Leftist media and there mouthpiece the Democrats see nothing wrong in a IG report if it is bad acts by the FBI, it's all good if in the right frame of mind to them.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (ZCEU2)

96 It ultimately hinges on the definition of "us".
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 12:54 PM

Yes. I'm reminded of a story my dad told of being with an older liquor license investigator who had taken over a retiree's region of Detroit. They walked into a Chaldean immigrant's restaurant and the owner took them into tge office and offered them cash. The extortion was possible because the immigrant thought greasing the wheel was always how things are done.

God help us if/when Latin American-style corruption is the new normal.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (/+bwe)

97 I sincerely think we are at a tipping point. Civil society cannot be sustained under a two tier justice system. How close we are to exploring will be revealed in the next year.

I'm not optimistic.

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (7ZQe3)

98 Exploding, I meant to say

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (7ZQe3)

99 94: We do not know what they've achieved yet. This is not over.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (U7k5w)

100 I must have missed that. What happened?

He briefly discussed Q as a real thing with some professor last night, and in a somewhat positive light. I don't think that's happened on the MFM before.

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2019 01:05 PM (IMdOQ)

101 That India thing--the story I read dis not give the ethnic background of either the victim or the suspects.
Was in Muzzie on Hindu? Vise-versa ?

That would explain the celebrations by the townspeople.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:03 PM (o1fzk)

Based on the names, and the photos, it seems clear to me the victim and her supporters are Hindu. Perps names not given, so may have been muzzie, maybe not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 01:06 PM (/sgva)

102
Until a leader rises on our side, fearless, intelligent, ruthless, charismatic, wily and pious, and calls up the militia to get the mobilization going,....

Store shelves are stocked. EBT and debit cards still work. Amazon is shipping...nothing will happen.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 01:06 PM (aKsyK)

103 94 They achieved nothing with their crap impeachment theater. Only trivialized the impact of that word and that process. It has become like divorce. Before it was shocking, unheard of and shameful. Now everyone is doing it.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (zr5Kq)

No, actually they damaged our credibility and power worldwide.

EU leaders laughing at the President? NORKS now saying no more negotiations on nucs? China trade deal stalled?

This farce has damaged foreign policy.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:07 PM (NgKpN)

104 Jerry Nadler's gunt should be charged with running a coverup operation.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 08, 2019 01:07 PM (Uu+Jp)

105 99 94: We do not know what they've achieved yet. This is not over.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (U7k5w)

Correct. The left often lures us into thinking they've made irrecoverable idiots of themselves. Then they win. We have shame and we feel the exhaustion in bad behavior. They do not.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 01:07 PM (H8QX8)

106 How is Trump "rigging" 2020?

As a Moron here often puts it, "Meep, meep, motherfuckers!"

Every time they pounce, it turns out to be their own tail.

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2019 01:07 PM (IMdOQ)

107 They will vote bill of impeachment out to the floor Tuesday. Floor vote Thursday.

Going to carry by 2 or 3 votes.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (ZfRYq)

108 He briefly discussed Q as a real thing with some professor last night, and in a somewhat positive light. I don't think that's happened on the MFM before.
Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2019 01:05 PM (IMdOQ)

IMO Q is a fiction used to pacify the people. "Trust" "everything is under control". But whose control. Some say getting angry makes you do the wrong thing, but being sheep allows them to step all over you. Passivity worries no one. If I had to guess, I'd bet Comey and Brennan came up with Q.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (U7k5w)

109 I think if take equal parts of

San Francisco
Broward County
And the titanic state corruption of Deep State DC

and mix well.

That's pretty much the future the Democrats have in mind for us.

And by us, I mean, everyone outside the DC elect.


Yeeesh, that shootout was like they tapped into someone's worst nightmare of police state police and decided to use it as their model for "law and order".

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (9X624)

110 Q was troll performance art.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (ZfRYq)

111 rape is a real proin India

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (G546f)

112 They will vote bill of impeachment out to the floor Tuesday. Floor vote Thursday.

Going to carry by 2 or 3 votes.
Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (ZfRYq)


as we fall further into the abyss. It shouldn't have been allowed to get this far. It's a sham. We'll soon find out how powerful the deep state is as I really don't have a lot of faith he'll get a FAIR trial in the Senate, either.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (9gDA7)

113 Naughty Pine, See Chicago, now entire state of Illinois.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (J3Rfi)

114 Passivity worries no one. If I had to guess, I'd bet Comey and Brennan came up with Q.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (U7k5w)

Don't know why the sentence was cut off

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (U7k5w)

115 No, actually they damaged our credibility and power worldwide.

EU leaders laughing at the President? NORKS now saying no more negotiations on nucs? China trade deal stalled?

This farce has damaged foreign policy.
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:07 PM (NgKpN)

I disagree. EU leaders - nothing new there. NORKSs know that 2020 election is upon us and are misreading the tealeaves, thinking Biden will win and let them off the hook. China trade deal is continuous back and forth. So far so good. Have to expect resistance.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:10 PM (zr5Kq)

116 now it's back, weird

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:10 PM (U7k5w)

117 Obama inoculated many with the antileftes virus.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2019 01:10 PM (V5bdY)

118 Rape is a real problem in the US Congress.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 01:11 PM (Z+IKu)

119 I really don't have a lot of faith he'll get a FAIR trial in the Senate, either.
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (9gDA7)

I predict mayhem. It's all they know how to do, and they do it well.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 01:11 PM (H8QX8)

120 91 Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:02 PM (ZfRYq)

AG Rosenstein was never going to prosecute his donk buddies.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:03 PM (U7k5w)

I contend that Rosenstein was not evil, he was weak.

He was kowtowing to BOTH sides, telling them what they wanted to hear.

He did not have the nads to stop Mueller. But he also did not have the nads to really HELP Mueller.

Same with the FISA stuff. He signed the papers for the last extension, even after it was public knowledge the predicating documents were fake, at the same time he was telling the President he supported HIM.

He needed to pick a side. He didn't IMO.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:11 PM (NgKpN)

121 Rape is a real problem in the US Congress.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 01:11 PM (Z+IKu)


And in hollywood. And on the left.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:12 PM (9gDA7)

122 They're for open boarders.
heh.
Renters who talk?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2019 01:13 PM (r+sAi)

123 However, to comment on the actual blog post, I have no doubt that there are small towns with corrupt law enforcement as you've seen on TV and in movies as "fiction."

------

I grew up in one. Though, TBF, adjacent small departments viewed our cops as corrupt, unhirable jokes. In fact, when they'd fire someone's dirty ass for corruption, Park County was the dumping ground. If you were crooked enough, and did enough dirt for Sheriff Wegener, you could make Undersheriff pretty quick.

He was finally, finally knocked out of office democratically last year. Because Sheriffs in Park County basically have plenary powers, he couldn't be fired for basically any reason. When it became clear that his twenty year reign of corruption was drawing to a close, the bastard bolted to Florida for early retirement, and his crooked deputies just sat on their hands for the rest of his term.

When the press protested his absence he tweeted photos of himself fishing as a response.

For an idea of the man's mindset, he had the word "Sheriff" tattooed in a large, old West style font on his fucking forearms. Total POS.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:13 PM (IYcBz)

124 Law is for the little people.

*hic*
*shart*

Posted by: Hillarious I at December 08, 2019 01:13 PM (oVJmc)

125 He needed to pick a side. He didn't IMO.
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:11 PM (NgKpN)

Signing a FISA renewal application was choosing sides. I know that old Stealth Jeff wrote him a big sloppy billet doux today, but that doesn't make it true. And he made sure there WAS a Mueller.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:14 PM (U7k5w)

126 heh.
Renters who talk?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2019 01:13 PM (r+sAi)


Yeah, I knew someone would comment......borders. SOOOOO sorry.....

Damn spelling nazis......

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:14 PM (9gDA7)

127 I don't think the India thing has any bearing on our LE problems and here's why.
We have many more legal remedies. The families of the UPS driver hostage and the innocent bystander are going to sue and get millions, and while that will not bring their loved ones back, it can be argued that justice was done.
Also, as tight-lipped as the authorities might be right now, the inept police are not out of the legal woods yet.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:14 PM (o1fzk)

128 You're going to have to prosecute these people with juries outside of Washington DC.

Move agencies outside of DC? Mass firings?



But if 98% of DC votes for Hillary, you're never going to effectively prosecute these people. And they know that, and so does their legal counsel.

Posted by: Blago at December 08, 2019 01:14 PM (sjTfF)

129 "open boarders"

Are they hot chicks?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:15 PM (o1fzk)

130 My point is the President on the infamous phone call was asking about the meddling in the 2016 election which the Democrats screamed holy terror about not anything about the upcoming election.
Which as Leftists do the 2016 election meddling was on their part and tried to use the old mirror trick.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:15 PM (ZCEU2)

131 The Deep State and the MSM are a tough combo to beat. Think what things would be like now without the net.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at December 08, 2019 01:16 PM (ihU8z)

132 See Greg Craig for results of DC juries.

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 01:16 PM (J3Rfi)

133 Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:10 PM (zr5Kq)

so, it is your contention that the Press salivating over the President of the US being impeached, does NOT hurt his negotiations with rival foreign powers?

If you go by Press accounts, the President is damaged. The walls are closing in.

And the US Government itself is imploding. Hell, spending bills STILL not done? Trade Deal with Mexico and Canada in limbo?

Our government is currently dysfunctional thanks to the Dems in the HOUSE, but you think that has NO bearing on Foreign relations?

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:16 PM (NgKpN)

134 If you go by press accounts,

Michelle O is fabulously attractive

Hillary is healthy and qualified

Joe Biden never misspeaks and is centrist

NYT is relevant and moderat

Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 01:19 PM (J3Rfi)

135 Isn't it about time for another meteor to strike the DC metropolitan area? It's been a few million years since the last strike after all.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 01:19 PM (d5Ayn)

136 Sounds like the suspects were killed to protect a powerful person who was likely the actual rapist.

But that's just an instant impression from reading the blurb, informed by my growing cynicism.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2019 01:19 PM (87gB3)

137 Naughty Pine, See Chicago, now entire state of Illinois.
Posted by: henry at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM

My dad used to go to Chicago frequently. He was astonished that second- and third-generation Americans preferred importing and living the worst aspects of Italy.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 08, 2019 01:19 PM (/+bwe)

138 Don't let yourself think that it's only the American press that is trying to damage and embarrass Trump. The Euro media is worse.

I traveled to Denmark a few years ago during the McCain / Palin run. They believed everything Tina Fey said was from Palin. Because their media told them so.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:20 PM (9gDA7)

139 Side note if you haven't checked out the Bongino report yet it's got potential.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:20 PM (ZCEU2)

140 Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:20 PM (ZfRYq)

141 re: the four dead suspects.

Was Hunter Biden in India?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 01:20 PM (d5Ayn)

142 Was Hunter Biden in India?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 01:20 PM (d5Ayn)


He was out all night with the Grand Marquis.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 01:21 PM (9gDA7)

143 Our government is currently dysfunctional thanks to the Dems in the HOUSE, but you think that has NO bearing on Foreign relations?
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:16 PM (NgKpN


I think it does, and that is one of the motivators for the Dems. If we didn't have Dems actively trying to topple our government, I think China would come to an agreement faster, for instance. But successes like that would make Trump look good, and then he might be re-elected. We can't have that!

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2019 01:23 PM (87gB3)

144 Q was troll performance art.
Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:09 PM (ZfRYq

------

Yup... and it's funny.

I've got a pretty epic trolling effort I'm working on. I mean, it's only sort of a troll, because I'm sincere about it. But I have no expectation of doing anything but, perhaps, pissing people off. So I think it qualifies as trolling.

I conceived of it on Thanksgiving, and my goal was to roll it out by NYE, but I've been making killer progress and may be ready earlier. I forgot that when I think something is funny, I can work like a whirling dervish.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:23 PM (IYcBz)

145 In Arkansas, a Policeman was sitting in his car, outside the Precinct.

Guy walked up and executed him.

Perp was killed.

No motive as of yet.

THIS is the kind of shit that will start the slide into Chaos, as Police see themselves as targets in a warzone, instead of Officers of the Law, enforcing said law.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:23 PM (NgKpN)

146 Chestnuts roasting on a burning tire
Jack frost trying to freeze off your nose

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:25 PM (ZCEU2)

147 145 In Arkansas, a Policeman was sitting in his car, outside the Precinct.

Guy walked up and executed him.

Perp was killed.

No motive as of yet.

THIS is the kind of shit that will start the slide into Chaos, as Police see themselves as targets in a warzone, instead of Officers of the Law, enforcing said law.
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:23 PM (NgKpN)

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Why your head should ALWAYS be on a swivel anywhere in public.

And if you're a cop, especially so.

Posted by: SMH at December 08, 2019 01:25 PM (RU4sa)

148 Here is the thing with cops and this did not just start. They are not there to uphold the law they are there to enforce the peace.

You can be fully within your rights and cops can shoot you down legally.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:25 PM (ZfRYq)

149 With all the feral youths with 'divine sparks' on the loose, anyone can be a target.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 01:27 PM (d5Ayn)

150 I agree that Impeachment Circus is hurting the president's ability to conduct foreign relations as he sees fit and this is having serious ramifications on world events.

Still, Trump picks his spots and is managing to get things done.
Heal beat them.

The Dems and the media thinks it's funny that Macron and Trudeau, who both have their own serious issue to deal with, were laughing at him, but they won't be laughing much longer.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:27 PM (o1fzk)

151 Why your head should ALWAYS be on a swivel anywhere in public.

And if you're a cop, especially so.

=


yeah, on a swivel looking for the nearest Starbucks...

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:27 PM (zr5Kq)

152 When the press protested his absence he tweeted photos of himself fishing as a response.

For an idea of the man's mindset, he had the word "Sheriff" tattooed in a large, old West style font on his fucking forearms. Total POS.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:13 PM (IYcBz)

The Dallas County's Constable's office became a snakepit of corruption a bit over a decade ago; it got broken up and came to light, and the details got printed. Basically the constables office does most of the grunt work, like serving papers and tracking warrants, but they are peace officers. So this group hit on the scheme of following illegals, but NOT to arrest them; instead, when they saw any of them with no car, they'd bust them, grab the keys, and tell them if they said anything they'd go back to Mexico that night. Then they'd sell the car (I think to organized crime characters who take flatbeds full of "used cars" to Mexico every week.) then the guys in the department would split the cash. I think they got to where they were grabbing and selling 30 or 40 new cars a month to "supplement their salary". Basically, they were just another extortion racket. And I'm sure they were grabbing and selling any drugs they ran across as well.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (V2Yro)

153 The good news is we have a Slovenian Super-Model for a First Lady.

You would think someone would be smart enough to put her on a magazine cover and interview her about being the first immigrant First Lady since the Founders, but no.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (r+sAi)

154 I worry that we are not far from a old Dane justice system where ever man defends his own rights, within a recognized rights structure, and does it with an axe.

The police are not here not protect us per se. They are here to protect the criminals from us.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

155 Don Q - There is a movie about Algeria that is made almost a documentary about their independence in the late 50s. I watched that some time ago ( was on again a few weeks ago) and saw that is exactly what a civil war could start here.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058946/

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (ZCEU2)

156 with a NEW car not "No car"

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (V2Yro)

157 The Dems and the media thinks it's funny that Macron and Trudeau, who both have their own serious issue to deal with, were laughing at him, but they won't be laughing much longer.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:27 PM (o1fzk)

So you believe in Horowitz.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (U7k5w)

158 There's covert/de facto/camouflaged shredding of the rule of law [RoL] - bribes to local inspectors, dirty cops, corrupt local councils or boards. This in endemic and has always been/always will be a problem with human systems. Though on this, there are degrees of corruption and that matters - and that's probably getting worse/more extensive vs. 25 years ago [every metropolitan area going towards a Cook County/northern NJ norm].


Then there's the destruction of RoL we're seeing now - FBI/IC plotting against political figures, brazen revolt against all norms and many laws with "sanctuary" crap. Much higher level, systemic.


Barr obviously needs to deal with the former decisively if any credibility is to be salvaged. But so far the latter has run rampant, continues to grow, with impunity. As important, there is zero stigma connected to this, and mass public indifference [polling confirms huge super-majorities oppose it - but the public passively accepts it, for the most part].


Patriotic immigrant policeman gunned down on Christmas Day, leaving a young family, by an illegal alien who's been deported multiple times and has a record ...... 2-day story, "outrage" fades within hours. Lawless govt. pushing its revolt against sanity didn't even have to dissemble or mumble or hide - they quadrupled down in the months after. With political impunity.


We'll get just as much injustice and degradation as the populace will tolerate. It's been tolerating quite a bit. Tea Party and Trump may be corpse-twitches, we may see soon enough.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (El6T/)

159 I contend that Rosenstein was not evil, he was weak.

He was kowtowing to BOTH sides, telling them what they wanted to hear.

He did not have the nads to stop Mueller. But he also did not have the nads to really HELP Mueller.

Same with the FISA stuff. He signed the papers for the last extension, even after it was public knowledge the predicating documents were fake, at the same time he was telling the President he supported HIM.

He needed to pick a side. He didn't IMO.
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:11 PM (NgKpN)

Not to defend Rosenstein, but I'll bet 80 - 90% of the people in the bureaucracy are just like that. That's why they're in the bureaucracy, so they can have a job where they can hide and not take responsibility for anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (V2Yro)

160 Roasting chestnuts?

What, you think you some kind of Pope?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (d5Ayn)

161 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (V2Yro)


Holy cow !!

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (zr5Kq)

162 Tom Servo that sounds exactly like PCSD. Exactly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:31 PM (IYcBz)

163 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (r+sAi)

Yeah, that would solve everything\\

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:31 PM (U7k5w)

164 157 The Dems and the media thinks it's funny that Macron and Trudeau, who both have their own serious issue to deal with, were laughing at him, but they won't be laughing much longer.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:27 PM (o1fzk)

So you believe in Horowitz.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (U7k5w)

LAFFA WHILE YOU CANNA, MONKEE BOY!!!

Posted by: Dr. Emilio Lizardo at December 08, 2019 01:33 PM (V2Yro)

165 Not to defend Rosenstein, but I'll bet 80 - 90% of the people in the bureaucracy are just like that. That's why they're in the bureaucracy, so they can have a job where they can hide and not take responsibility for anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (V2Yro)

DAG is not a job that should be all about hiding. The man was de facto AG. He helped put Mueller in place, so it there's a "plan", he was part of it.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:33 PM (U7k5w)

166 Q kind of read like Nostradamus.

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2019 01:33 PM (RuIsu)

167 Tom I'm in agreement with that about Rosenstein

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:33 PM (ZCEU2)

168 Not to defend Rosenstein, but I'll bet 80 - 90% of the people in the bureaucracy are just like that. That's why they're in the bureaucracy, so they can have a job where they can hide and not take responsibility for anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:30 PM (V2Yro)

Agree 100%. Even saw it in the Military with some Officers, and was a Pandemic amongst the Senior Enlisted.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:34 PM (NgKpN)

169 157--I wasn't talking about Horowitz, only from a vague ( but becoming increasingly clear on a daily basis) sense that Trump is going to finish on top.

It's not that he is God-like--although it's fun toying with that meme--it's because his enemies are evil idiots.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:35 PM (o1fzk)

170 If I gotta choose between the local constables setting up speed traps to extract cash from taxpayers or having then despoil illegals, I'll settle for the latter.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 08, 2019 01:35 PM (H5knJ)

171 Remember the rape gang in England somewhere? They were treated like precious snowflakes as I recall.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 08, 2019 01:36 PM (l9m7l)

172 Greetings:

Me, I'm guessing "Someone get a rope." doesn't really translate into Hindi.

Posted by: 11B40 at December 08, 2019 01:36 PM (evgyj)

173 Hey I just read the actual article about the policeman in India, and I must say all this criticism is unfounded. They all say that somehow the suspects took all of their handcuffs off and were all shot while trying to escape. Swearsies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:36 PM (V2Yro)

174 here is a movie about Algeria that is made almost a
documentary about their independence in the late 50s. I watched that
some time ago ( was on again a few weeks ago) and saw that is exactly
what a civil war could start here.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058946/

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:28 PM (ZCEU2)

looks interesting. Now where to find it to watch online.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 01:36 PM (n13/j)

175 Agree 100%. Even saw it in the Military with some Officers, and was a Pandemic amongst the Senior Enlisted.
Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 01:34 PM (NgKpN)

So he was a helpless Sgt Schultz, just going along to get along, signing the FISA app, appointing Mueller, just staying neutral? He was Mueller's intern in Massachussets. not an unconnected lower level bureaucrat!

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:37 PM (U7k5w)

176 There have been enough people saying this IG report is going to be very bad for the FBI I am keeping fingers crossed when I get home tomorrow afternoon there will be a Flaming Skull Pudding Cup thread to comment on.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:38 PM (ZCEU2)

177 The rule of law is broken, probably has been for a long time, was probably never carried out perfectly at any time, but is an ideal that we should work to have in our society.

We, you and I, want a return to the rule of law. Those that benefit from the rule of man do not. They, according to their desire, work outside the law. We, according to our desire, try to work within the law.

Our dilemma is, what actions do we take, within or outside, of the law, to restore the rule of law.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 01:38 PM (pawKV)

178 After the Horowitz report the whole of the FBI will be transferred to HR so they can all train each other on how not to let bias infect their jobs.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:39 PM (ZfRYq)

179 Quint - It was on TCM like a week ago, sometimes old movies if you search on line you can see it free.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:39 PM (ZCEU2)

180 176 There have been enough people saying this IG report is going to be very bad for the FBI I am keeping fingers crossed when I get home tomorrow afternoon there will be a Flaming Skull Pudding Cup thread to comment on.
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:38 PM (ZCEU2)

This would be lovely! Conservative Treehouse has an article on the IG report and "intent"

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 01:40 PM (pawKV)

181 DAG is not a job that should be all about hiding. The man was de facto AG. He helped put Mueller in place, so it there's a "plan", he was part of it.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:33 PM (U7k5w)

Do you remember the "Peter Principle"??? It's worth recalling. Peter wrote that In any Large Organization, people will be promoted up to the point where they reach a level of total incompetence, which is were they stay. Their bosses don't fire them when this happens because that would mean admitting to a mistake, so they ignore them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:40 PM (V2Yro)

182
Why are we talking about this stuff when it's-

DAY SIX of THE GREAT PELOTON COMMERCIAL CRISIS!!!!!11111!!!

It's kind of a brilliant Rorschach Test for Progtardedness by the way.

If they react with outrage, well...now you know.


Several of Insty's cob-loggers have displayed severe signs of Progtardation based on this simple test:

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/350735/#respond



The science is settled, people.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 01:40 PM (9X624)

183 yeah, on a swivel looking for the nearest Starbucks...
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:27 PM (zr5Kq)

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Heh.

Seriously though, if you're not checking entryways and exits whenever you're in a public place, checking out the people around you, and have a plan in case things go sideways, you're not paying attention.

Posted by: SMH at December 08, 2019 01:41 PM (RU4sa)

184 178 After the Horowitz report the whole of the FBI will be transferred to HR so they can all train each other on how not to let bias in their jobs be seen.

FIFY

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:41 PM (ZCEU2)

185 If I gotta choose between the local constables setting up speed traps to extract cash from taxpayers or having then despoil illegals, I'll settle for the latter.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 08, 2019 01:35 PM (H5knJ

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I feel ya, but it's only workable if they have an underclass to victimize. Where I grew up, all they really had was citizens to victimize, and boy did they ever.

And if you were a crook, and slinging dope, they'd hit you and send you up. And then sell the dope right back to their preferred vendors.

Shit, they even (repeatedly) burgled the frontier museum in South Park for Indian artefacts they sold to rich folks. These are "steal anything that ain't nailed down " types and they don't care who they have to fuck for a buck.

No sense of right or wrong, just killer bees out for your honeycomb. The criminals have more morals.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:42 PM (IYcBz)

186 Imagine how trivially easy it was to destroy Joe the Plumber.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Then, there's the rodeo clown.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 01:43 PM (2kj6M)

187 Q-anon inspired some good people imo, that had internet savvy to troll the MSM and other leftists. that was useful ... and I think he (they) is anti-DeepState ... and he is no dummy. But all his cryptic phrasing at this point is keeping some hope alive ... and even assuming he is a LARP, there are many that jump off from there to research more deeply into the criminal adventures ... like the child trafficking, or the Ukraine things ... some gave up on Q and went on their own as useful YouTubers (e.g. Tracy Beanz) ... while Lisa Mei is interesting ...


I haven't followed Q closely enough lately to know if he is just spewing cryptic garbage about secret conspiracies, but I don't think it is Brennan or DeepState behind it ... but who knnows, maybe at a critical point he will show himself to be just one more DS mole, undermining another group of patriots.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 01:43 PM (Cus5s)

188 It's not that he is God-like--although it's fun toying with that meme--it's because his enemies are evil idiots.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:35 PM (o1fzk)

They are evil, but they've run a pretty good game so far. They have undermined him at every turn. While it may look like a farcical game, the effects have been dreadful. Trump should have appointed an AG and FBI director who would have gone after Hillary and company, not a bunch of sissies who defer to the democrats. I do not believe in the chess strategy theory of this.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:43 PM (U7k5w)

189 Not that I have great expectations for the release of the Horowitz report, but I wonder what the MSM will whip up to blunt it's potential impact.

Or will Jimmah just shuffle off his peanut shell?
RBG?
A school shooting somewhere?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:44 PM (o1fzk)

190 There have been enough people saying this IG report is going to be very bad for the FBI I am keeping fingers crossed...

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They are speculating.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 01:44 PM (2kj6M)

191 Do you remember the "Peter Principle"??? It's worth recalling. Peter wrote that In any Large Organization, people will be promoted up to the point where they reach a level of total incompetence, which is were they stay. Their bosses don't fire them when this happens because that would mean admitting to a mistake, so they ignore them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:40 PM (V2Yro)

I remember it well. Rosenstein was appointed by Trump, engineered firing Comey and then appointed Mueller. He's not incompetent he's competent with malintent. There is a world of difference.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:46 PM (U7k5w)

192 Remember the rape gang in England somewhere? They were treated like precious snowflakes as I recall.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 08, 2019 01:36 PM (l9m7l)

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Rotherham. Tommy Robinson's done several vacations at Her Majesty's pleasure for exposing the malfeasance surrounding that case (and others).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:46 PM (IYcBz)

193 eriously though, if you're not checking entryways and exits whenever you're in a public place, checking out the people around you, and have a plan in case things go sideways, you're not paying attention.
Posted by: SMH at December 08, 2019 01:41 PM (RU4sa)

I hear you.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:47 PM (zr5Kq)

194 The IG report could say the FBI murders people indiscriminately. Its what action the govt will take that is the important thing. Which I expect to be squat based on experience.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2019 01:48 PM (r+sAi)

195 The cops might be heroes.
Blonde Morticia has a point.

The rape situation in India is pretty out there--recall the case a few years ago when a young woman went to a movie with a male friend, and a group of young men riding with their friend in an off-duty bus picked them up at a stop, beat the young man and gang-savaged the woman, including internal perforations from use of a metal pipe.
She was from a family with enough means to transfer to Singapore for surgery, but I don't remember how it turned out, other than that the crime, while horrific, was not completely out of the ordinary there.
that one got worldwide publicity because the woman and her friend were of a more-significant class than many victims.

Posted by: barbarausa at December 08, 2019 01:49 PM (W7IZQ)

196 188, I don't subscribe to the Eleventy Chess Theory either. My focus is not on Trump's abilities, but on his enemies ability to screw it up.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:49 PM (o1fzk)

197 this ep is abput the bombing of Dresden

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 01:50 PM (G546f)

198 o/t:

note: weeki watched doesn't have trans "mermaids".

ahem.

Posted by: mjc at December 08, 2019 01:50 PM (Pg+x7)

199 weeki wachee

Posted by: mjc at December 08, 2019 01:50 PM (Pg+x7)

200 ... damn splchk.

Posted by: mjc at December 08, 2019 01:51 PM (Pg+x7)

201 That CT artical could be the outcome now that we have intent as the driving factor for a crime to have been committed.
More again on our new two tier justice system.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:51 PM (ZCEU2)

202 Shit, they even (repeatedly) burgled the frontier museum in South Park for Indian artefacts they sold to rich folks. These are "steal anything that ain't nailed down " types and they don't care who they have to fuck for a buck.

No sense of right or wrong, just killer bees out for your honeycomb. The criminals have more morals.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:42 PM (IYcBz)

Agree completely. The core problem with corrupt cops is that the Corruption ALWAYS grows. One day they're scamming illegals, and they get a taste for the easy money. next month Deputy Joe whacks his ex's new boyfriend because he never liked him, and the month after that they're taking over the drug rackets in the area, and you got a mafia running everything. That's the status quo in just about every country south of our border.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:52 PM (V2Yro)

203 I do not believe in the chess strategy theory of this.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:43 PM (U7k5w)

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Nor do I. I think Trump decided to be gracious in victory, acting under the deadly misapprehension that his enemies would be chastened, fearful, and therefore gracious in defeat.

That is not how power demons think. It's not a business or a game to them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:52 PM (IYcBz)

204 eh so many bleeding heart brits
Germany is lucky they lost before the A-bomb was ready

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 01:52 PM (G546f)

205 179 Quint - It was on TCM like a week ago, sometimes old movies if you search on line you can see it free.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:39 PM (ZCEU2)

I hear ya, thanks for the tip. I will do some searching around.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 01:53 PM (n13/j)

206 With each passing day, I see less and less of a chance this will be resolved at the ballot box.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 08, 2019 01:53 PM (jWe5r)

207 196 188, I don't subscribe to the Eleventy Chess Theory either. My focus is not on Trump's abilities, but on his enemies ability to screw it up.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 08, 2019 01:49 PM (o1fzk)

We'll see. Rosenstein, Weissman and the donks are pretty crafty and have the media on their side. Schiff seems incompetent on the surface, but if it goes to the Senate, relying on McConnell is no sure thing. What price will he exact? Amnesty? No wall? There are plenty of snakes who are ostensibly on "our side" who've been lying to us for years.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:54 PM (U7k5w)

208 "Because the ballot box has proven effective. Tea party revolution, Trump."

I must've missed something. Effective? In what way?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 08, 2019 01:54 PM (jWe5r)

209 the 2012 Delhi gang rape--victim did die in Singapore hospital

https://tinyurl.com/p2bfc3y

When looking that up, found that there was a rape and murder (by burning?) of a vet or veterinary student early this month. maybe not a good time to be a gang rapist and murderer in India.

(not advocating vigilante justice, just noting that it seems to have some dire provocation in that country, regarding rape)

Posted by: barbarausa at December 08, 2019 01:56 PM (W7IZQ)

210 I must've missed something. Effective? In what way?
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 08, 2019 01:54 PM (jWe5r)

Tea Party revolution, Trump.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:56 PM (zr5Kq)

211 My reaction to the brokenness of the rule of law is to avoid "the law"/ the rulers to the best of my ability and advise others to do the same.

Also I want to be aware of the rulers taking advantage of my peeps and doing what I can to help them.

Also watching for an event that will draw like minded people together to restore the rule of law to society as a whole.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 01:56 PM (pawKV)

212 I watched that Battle of Algeria movie and easily could imagine it happening like Trump won a 2nd election and ANTIFA was revoting.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 01:56 PM (ZCEU2)

213 19 I don't know either. It would seem on one hand that we won't get "there" through elections. On the other hand, elections gave us Trump, the single most important reform agent in our time.

--

Without Trump winning we never would've known how f*cked we already were.

Sadly we'll just go back to sleep after he's gone. We'll remember we're f*cked, but we'll let them keep doing it.

------------------
Sad but true. I used to really think there were 2 distinct sides. Now, I realize, one is just more scummier than the other. Unfortunately, where there's only 2 choices, under the rules of Realpolitik someone will win. The best I can do is vote for the least scummy. Rarely is there anyone not scummy. You don't even get to be a contender at state or federal level politics unless you've sold your soul.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 08, 2019 01:57 PM (VYwSh)

214
183: Seriously, Mr. Empire and I can be as alert and careful as possible ... but age and/or physical problems make much more that "duck-and-cover" impractical. And even that might not be possible, especially for him.

So would you have any suggestions? Parkinson's (for him) and essential tremors (for me) mean we don't consider concealed carry an option.

Posted by: Empire1 at December 08, 2019 01:58 PM (zCU6B)

215 Nor do I. I think Trump decided to be gracious in victory, acting under the deadly misapprehension that his enemies would be chastened, fearful, and therefore gracious in defeat.

That is not how power demons think. It's not a business or a game to them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 01:52 PM (IYcBz)

I think Sessions helped engineer an end to "lock her up". Left to his own devices, I think he'd have pressed the Clinton Foundation issue and exposed much more graft long before the Biden graft came to the surface. Maybe old Jeff thought this was the gentlemanly thing to do, (and if any one was weak it was Sessions, not Rosenstein), but then he handed his job to Rosenstein, who was happy to turn the tables.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 01:58 PM (U7k5w)

216 Anger can be a motivator for some, but being perpetually angry and wound up is counterproductive. Tend to miss the forest for the trees.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:58 PM (zr5Kq)

217 Do you remember the "Peter Principle"??? It's worth recalling. Peter
wrote that In any Large Organization, people will be promoted up to the
point where they reach a level of total incompetence, which is were they
stay. Their bosses don't fire them when this happens because that would
mean admitting to a mistake, so they ignore them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 01:40 PM (V2Yro)

You see this in every war but the Civil War is a great example So often leaders were promoted to the level of their incompetence. This was doubly true because so many commanders fell and needed to be replaced.

Hood was a classic example. He was considered the best brigade commander in the war. He was a so- so division commander, and a disaster as an army commander. There are lots of examples on both sides though.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 01:59 PM (n13/j)

218 Will they retain control of the whip hand of government and continue their campaign to cow into total submission the people of America?

Of course. There is a close correlation between socialist states and percent of population that is foreign born.

Now you know why the floodgates to the Turd World are wide open.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 01:59 PM (lD3vL)

219 Never attribute to stupidity what can be adequately explained by malice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 08, 2019 02:00 PM (yQpMk)

220 OT-Power over fear-a Christian devotional from "The Upper Room"

https://tinyurl.com/yx5mbcq9

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (WI7YS)

221 "The other one is about the caste system, these
little girls were turning up dead no one cared because they were from
the lowest cast in India, and the new police chief that's in charge is
from the big city and he doesn't get what's going on. I mean it was
fascinating because some of the villagers would refuse to shake their
hands or even be near them. I'm just glad we don't have that class
system here yet I mean yet

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 08, 2019 12:36 PM (dKiJG)"
..
We're bringing in a shit-ton of foreign workers on visas that are bringing it with them.

It makes for some really surreal interactions with people even in nice areas and professional environments; they'll see you do something innocuous that, to them, marks you as a lower caste - even though applying that to someone from another culture in another country that you're a guest in is utterly batshit - and then proceed to do absurd shit.
I'm talking like, random strangers demanding that you do something as if you're a servant, near-suicidal behavior resulting from pretending that you're not there, etc.

I maintain that the single most damaging contribution to the future of western culture that the Brits gave us was bringing the English language to India. Those outside certain industries don't understand how much daily bullshit is directly attributable to that. Sometimes with fatal results (see: Boeing)

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (67XdO)

222

Rapees for Rupees in Rawalpindi Rajah.

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (5IHGB)

223 13
it's India. God only knows what other elements there are to the story. The cops might be heroes.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Exactly. I was and remain pretty confused about the point being made by this post. The situation in India concerning this one specific case and with rape cases in general is totally out of control. Rape suspects are often freed from jail by vigilante mobs, while rape victims are often murdered or mutilated by vigilantes before the trial can even happen. I think the police were just getting sick and tired of it, and decided to become vigilantes themselves and just executed the rapists ahead of time, knowing that the trial would either be a farce, or would never happen, or anyone testifying against the rapists would be killed.

I'm not saying that police going rogue to administer justice is a good thing, but within the context of India and what happens there daily, it's an understandable, and explains why the general public (as described in the article) cheered the cops, rather than expressing outrage at an extra-judicial killing.

I also don't think this situation has much relevance to the US at the moment. The amount (and extent) of "police overreach" here is very very minor compared to what happens in almost every other nation. It happens, sure, but I really don't think that it's part of nor connected to "The Deep State." Every case I've head of is just some frustrated, scared, inexperienced or trigger-happy patrolman firing his weapon out of fear or personal rage -- not because he's part of some government oppression.

Posted by: zombie at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (fK2gX)

224 "Tea Party revolution, Trump."

You keep saying that. I've seen no proof.

The TEA Party was dead before it even got started. And Trump's election has simply put us on a quicker path to war.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (jWe5r)

225 216 Anger can be a motivator for some, but being perpetually angry and wound up is counterproductive. Tend to miss the forest for the trees.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 01:58 PM (zr5Kq)

Sometimes, but allowing evil to prosper by saying "don't worry, it's all under control", is also counter productive. Especially when we are saying that the ballot box is not the answer. A lot of public anger about Mueller, would have made them think. They quelled the anger with the Q fiction.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (U7k5w)

226 To this day I don't understand "the Sessions". Was he just dumb enough to accept democrats' demands, did he underestimate the scope and eventual target of Mueller's investigation, or was he unhappy with Trump and wanted his removal.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:02 PM (zr5Kq)

227 The Rule of Law always depends upon who is in charge at any given time.

It isn't gravity. It isn't engineering, except in a very generalized manner.

The Rule of Law is not immutable.

It is subject to rather extreme changes, depending upon the mood of either a ruler or the mood of people that ruler supposedly represents.

It is a moving target, people.

It is not a 'rule', at all.



Posted by: The Knave at December 08, 2019 02:02 PM (zPHMM)

228 Hillary wins all this Deep State crimes are never known, and grows.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:03 PM (ZCEU2)

229 "
226
To this day I don't understand "the Sessions". Was he just dumb enough
to accept democrats' demands, did he underestimate the scope and
eventual target of Mueller's investigation, or was he unhappy with Trump
and wanted his removal.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:02 PM (zr5Kq)"
..
A large fraction of establishment republicans are living in a total fantasy-land, focused on their gravy trains and tut-tutting about people that lack class.
On the older end, a lot of their warped reality comes from being completely cut off from modern communications. They read dead tree media and see cable news here and there, and that's largely it.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at December 08, 2019 02:05 PM (67XdO)

230 Sometimes, but allowing evil to prosper by saying "don't worry, it's all under control", is also counter productive. Especially when we are saying that the ballot box is not the answer. A lot of public anger about Mueller, would have made them think. They quelled the anger with the Q fiction.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (U7k5w)

I don't anyone here said "don't worry everything is
under control", do you ? If you have something better in mind then the ballot box, by all means, give it a go.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:05 PM (zr5Kq)

231 228 Hillary wins all this Deep State crimes are never known, and grows.
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:03 PM (ZCEU2)

If the crimes are known, but there is no retribution, IMO the situation is actually worse. You can't tell criminals "well, we'll let you get away with it this time" and not expect then to become even worse.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:05 PM (U7k5w)

232 Never attribute to stupidity what can be adequately explained by malice.
Posted by: Grump928
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Ah. the Shiff/Nadler Paradox.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 02:05 PM (4bd7D)

233 *I don't think*

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:05 PM (zr5Kq)

234 Tyranny is not marked out by it's severity, but rather by it's capriciousness. When the law is not the same for all, you are already living under tyranny.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at December 08, 2019 02:06 PM (yQpMk)

235 "Gratitude for a new day"-A devotional from the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews:

https://tinyurl.com/yx5mq2yt

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2019 02:08 PM (WI7YS)

236 People want justice, if they can't get it from the government they will get it for themselves; The only way government remains legitimate is if it delivers justice in a timely and fair manner; often it is said justice delayed is justice denied

Posted by: Harry Case at December 08, 2019 02:08 PM (I3R+4)

237 In the infamous words of James Comey it sounds like all they did was send up a couple of agents and see what happens

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:08 PM (aR6C/)

238 The Rule of Law is not immutable.

That is not true.

The Law Transcends mankind.

What you may confuse for a malleable Rule of Law is actually not a definition issue, but an enforcement issue.

There has long been a demarcation in law between Mala In Se (evil in of itself) and Mala Prohibita (because we say so).

Rejection of the Imago Dei does not change the fact that humans are wired up to recognize a transcendent legal/moral standard. Rejection just means that you will be wrong in your assessment.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 02:09 PM (lD3vL)

239 I don't anyone here said "don't worry everything is
under control", do you ? If you have something better in mind then the ballot box, by all means, give it a go.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:05 PM (zr5Kq)

I am talking about the "trust the plan" idea. And as for ballot box, nobody elects the bureaucracy, do they? But they have worked tirelessly to prevent actions we did vote for.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:09 PM (U7k5w)

240 President Trump is working within the law and if successful in bringing justice to those who think they are above the law, will restore some faith in the rule of law.

Clinton would have further destroyed the idea of equality before the law.

Education is needed to bring the idea of rule of law to the public.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 02:11 PM (pawKV)

241 Alright, after reading the article, it sounds more like a case of mob "justice" instead of the orderliness of the rule of law.

Please ignore my previous impressions.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2019 02:12 PM (87gB3)

242 Mike Hammer, how is your furry friend doing? I made supplication on your behalf.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2019 02:14 PM (87gB3)

243 I am talking about the "trust the plan" idea. And as for ballot box, nobody elects the bureaucracy, do they? But they have worked tirelessly to prevent actions we did vote for.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:09 PM (U7k5w)

"A republic, if you can keep it." What do you think he meant by that ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:15 PM (zr5Kq)

244 Education is needed to bring the idea of rule of law to the public.
Posted by: AK
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I maintain that academe is absolutely the source of our current woes. Not academe per se, but its infestation by the Left. They've been at it for decades, and have inculcated two generations with a poisonous socio-political philosophy/world view.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 02:15 PM (HTHlp)

245 107 They will vote bill of impeachment out to the floor Tuesday. Floor vote Thursday.

Going to carry by 2 or 3 votes.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (ZfRYq)

The Democrats can't wait to impeach much longer, or they'll all swallow their tongues from holding back on the words they rabidly want to say after *impeach him*, but that Nanzi has forbidden so far --- CONVICT AND REMOVE HIM!

Posted by: doofus at December 08, 2019 02:15 PM (zCTLh)

246 Yeah, I'd like to know, too. I asked St. Gertrude to intervene for her.

Posted by: Empire1 at December 08, 2019 02:16 PM (zCU6B)

247 I do think they wanted, or Schiffty wanted to get the vote in before the IG report..

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:17 PM (ZCEU2)

248 Education is needed to bring the idea of rule of law to the public.

The church and the John Birch Society have been doing that now since forever.

I'm not seeing progress. The usual vectors of indoctrination have dominated, plus the former US imports millions of people each year that have never seen Rule Of Law actually practiced and look at government as an invincible evil and utterly corrupt entity.

You don't fix that short of Divine Intervention.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 02:19 PM (lD3vL)

249 Are we willowed?

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:20 PM (ZCEU2)

250 247: Hopefully, it's released at midnight with a fanfare of tweets...if it's "good". If it's benign, it only feed the left

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:21 PM (U7k5w)

251 Not as of this second anyway

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:21 PM (ZCEU2)

252 Why is it, when a Republican does something that is deemed "questionable," it's an uprising, an impeachable offense and people should be imprisoned. When the LEFT does something, it's just "Tuesday."

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

253 Business day tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:22 PM (ZCEU2)

254 I just checked -- no, we haven't been willowed.

Posted by: Empire1 at December 08, 2019 02:22 PM (zCU6B)

255 "A republic, if you can keep it." What do you think he meant by that ?

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. - John Adams

Its pretty clear that the "religious" people didn't include Islam, and the religion of Climate Change.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 02:23 PM (lD3vL)

256 You don't fix that short of Divine Intervention.
------
Thank God for Divine Intervention.

And privatize schooling.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 02:23 PM (pawKV)

257 I also don't think this situation has much relevance to the US at the moment. The amount (and extent) of "police overreach" here is very very minor compared to what happens in almost every other nation. It happens, sure, but I really don't think that it's part of nor connected to "The Deep State." Every case I've head of is just some frustrated, scared, inexperienced or trigger-happy patrolman firing his weapon out of fear or personal rage -- not because he's part of some government oppression.
Posted by: zombie at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (fK2gX)

Ruby Ridge, Waco, Bundy Ranch: definitely Deep State, there. Las Vegas shooter? Possibly, maybe even probably, based on how thoroughly it has been covered up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 02:25 PM (/sgva)

258 As soon as I get 2 comments in 5 I get that feeling

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:26 PM (ZCEU2)

259 I used to ask myself way back when why hasn't Donald Trump gone after people like George Soros?

However, it seems with this whole Ukrainian deal it would appear that he has wrapped up George Soros and the Deep state in all of its ugly glory in one Fell Swoop.

People say sunlight is the best disinfectant. I believe this is true especially with known bad players like George Soros in the mix. Donald Trump said himself that he caught the Deep state. I have no reason to not believe him. The only thing that is unknown to me is the magnitude of the explosion in the Democrats faces.

I do not think this impeachment farce has a prayer of reaching the Senate because Nancy might be crazy but she's not stupid. Although and a very recent past she has caused me to rethink this. So who knows? of the explosion in the Democrats faces.

I do not think this impeachment first has a prayer of reaching the Senate because Nancy might be crazy but she's not stupid. Although and the very recent past she has caused me to rethink this. So who knows? But my money is on we are all going to have a very very wonderful, glorious, patriotic, retribution filled 2020

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:26 PM (aR6C/)

260 Saudi band on the run

Saudi band on the run

And the shore patrol sailor men

Were searching for Saudi band

In every tittie bar in Pensacola

C O L A ....cola

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 02:26 PM (Y274z)

261 And eliminate the FBI

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 02:26 PM (pawKV)

262 245 107 They will vote bill of impeachment out to the floor Tuesday. Floor vote Thursday.

Going to carry by 2 or 3 votes.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 01:08 PM (ZfRYq)

The Democrats can't wait to impeach much longer, or they'll all swallow their tongues from holding back on the words they rabidly want to say after *impeach him*, but that Nanzi has forbidden so far --- CONVICT AND REMOVE HIM!
Posted by: doofus at December 08, 2019 02:15 PM (zCTLh)

And the Bill will boil down to a Thought crime about an event that never happened.

The 'new' theory is that you can impeach a President for 'improper motives'.

ie, he did something legal, but did it for a reason we did not like.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

263 Mike Hammer, how is your furry friend doing? I made supplication on your behalf.
Posted by: Emmie
----

Thanks, Emmie. Not so good. I'm doing all for her that I can.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 02:27 PM (PlZlj)

264 40 years ago we would have said - "eh, it's India".

Now, 40 years later. Oh, wait, it's still India.

Special protection has never been new, it's just they wheeled it out of the backroom and on to the showroom floor here for the first time where the public can no longer deny it exists.

Posted by: DamnedYanbkee at December 08, 2019 02:28 PM (O8SrN)

265 But my money is on we are all going to have a very very wonderful, glorious, patriotic, retribution filled 2020
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Your keyboard to God's ears.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 02:28 PM (pawKV)

266
Ruby Ridge, Waco, Bundy Ranch: definitely Deep State, there. Las Vegas shooter? Possibly, maybe even probably, based on how thoroughly it has been covered up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 02:25 PM (/sgva)


These are all proof that your government is willing to kill you to get you out of the way.

The lack of ANY information coming out about the Vegas shooter is VERY telling.

That shit doesn't just happen with no conclusion, ever.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 02:29 PM (Zz0t1)

267 We've completely lost the educational battle. The system is so corrupted and shot through with Leftists that reform at this point seems unimaginable.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 02:29 PM (H8QX8)

268 Posted by: zombie at December 08, 2019 02:01 PM (fK2gX)

Ruby Ridge, Waco, Bundy Ranch: definitely Deep State, there. Las Vegas shooter? Possibly, maybe even probably, based on how thoroughly it has been covered up.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 02:25 PM (/sgva)

Exhibit 1? Asset Forfeiture. Where they can seize an amount of money, and hold it until you can PROOVE you were not doing something wrong with it.

And they get to KEEP IT.

Posted by: Don Q at December 08, 2019 02:30 PM (NgKpN)

269 #255 ....and completely unregulated abortion.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 02:30 PM (Y274z)

270 Nood.

Posted by: Deranged DM at December 08, 2019 02:30 PM (Q3xyR)

271 It's already here. See, e.g., the events in Broward just the other day. Cops expending a couple hundred rounds into a UPS truck with a hostage in it, in rush hour traffic, using innocent bystanders as meat shields, and killing both the hostage and some poor bastard just sitting in his car. These fucker made Judge Dredd look restrained.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:33 PM (NWiLs)


I am surprised that the police didn't pull a Twin Peaks and arrest everyone on scene and charge them with homicide.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 08, 2019 02:31 PM (1g7ch)

272 Impeachment has no meaning now. Which could be problematic in the future if we really do need to remove a President.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 02:31 PM (pawKV)

273 Well Don, if you weren't going to do anything illegal with it, and it wasn't from an illegal source, you shouldn't have any problem with us holding it until you prove 'it' is innocent, right?

Posted by: DamnedYanbkee at December 08, 2019 02:32 PM (O8SrN)

274 Waterboarding works.

That's why the commies and NeverTrumpers hate it.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 02:32 PM (Y274z)

275 >>President Trump is working within the law and if successful in bringing justice to those who think they are above the law, will restore some faith in the rule of law.

Clinton would have further destroyed the idea of equality before the law.

Education is needed to bring the idea of rule of law to the public.
Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 02:11 PM (pawKV)

Agreed. This is why Graham is drafting vengeful subpoenas RE Schiff phone records.

I believe that he believes this will collapse under it's own weight.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:33 PM (aR6C/)

276 Is JackStraw taking a break? Haven't read him around lately and I do trust his take on things.

Why, yes - I AM an optimist? Why do you ask?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 02:33 PM (Y4EXg)

277 To this day I don't understand "the Sessions". Was he just dumb enough to accept democrats' demands, did he underestimate the scope and eventual target of Mueller's investigation, or was he unhappy with Trump and wanted his removal.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 02:02 PM (zr5Kq)

Sessions is an old douche bag. He was used to playing by and profiting from the "rules".

He took the Klan down remember, all three of them.

But when it came to a real fight, he was seen lacking. And sleeping.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Z+IKu)

278 "Isn't drafting.."

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (aR6C/)

279
The 'new' theory is that you can impeach a President for 'improper motives'.

"The thought of man is not trialble, for the devil himself knows not the thought of man." - Latham CJ, Greene v. Regina

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (7rVsF)

280 Nood!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (Y4EXg)

281 Nor do I. I think Trump decided to be gracious in victory, acting under the deadly misapprehension that his enemies would be chastened, fearful, and therefore gracious in defeat.

Maybe, but it might also be the result of a calculation. Prosecuting political opponents would kind of smack of a banana republic, and would have absolutely guaranteed Trump's impeachment. Imagine the present impeachment circus with that on the table.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 08, 2019 02:35 PM (hGXZE)

282 Don Q - not sure exactly where, Philadelphia at least, Pennsylvania maybe that they were taking whole properties for very minor offences like a marijuana offence. Heard on Friday there was a court ordered repayment for these but you have to file.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 02:35 PM (ZCEU2)

283 >>JackStraw taking a break? Haven't read him around lately and I do trust his take on things.

Why, yes - I AM an optimist? Why do you ask?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 02:33 PM (Y4EXg)

I bet he's lurking. I asked same question a while ago.

He's probably just resurfacing for some oxygen before plunging back in here on Monday

Posted by: Getcha Pull at December 08, 2019 02:36 PM (aR6C/)

284 We've completely lost the educational battle. The system is so corrupted and shot through with Leftists that reform at this point seems unimaginable.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice
------------

Yes. But the alternative is surrender. Not a good option.

I've had some whimsical thoughts about recruiting retired to folk to begin enrolling local colleges/universities. In some places 65+ means no tuition, at least for auditing courses.

The object would be to at least monitor and publicly, vociferously, report on the substance of classes.

There is also the possibility of actually challenging (diplomatically, assertively) mis-teaching and omission in the classroom. As a registered student, one acquires a standing that is not the case as an outsider.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 02:37 PM (yY5sN)

285 While I was on the America a drug ring got smashed. A First Class LPO was accused of knowing about it but he said he knew nothing.

So the command put him through the non judicial punishment wringer washer.

At each Captain's Mast in succession he would be called on to tell what he knew. He refused saying he knew nothing. Then he would be demoted, fined, and put on restricted man's muster.

From E-6 to E-1.

And then kicked out of the Navy.

Biggest miscarriage of justice I have personally ever seen.

Schiff would love the Navy.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2019 02:38 PM (Y274z)

286
"The thought of man is not trialble, for the devil himself knows not the thought of man." - Latham CJ, Greene v. Regina
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 02:34 PM (7rVsF)

Which is why hate crimes/speech should not be a legal catagory.

Posted by: AK away from home at December 08, 2019 03:01 PM (pawKV)

287 Many on our side talk about how 80 million gun owners, just because number, will automatically win. But unless we start organizing in ways that no Internet forum I'm aware of will permit, all I see in the future is one repetition after another of the recent Red Flag enforcement actions in Virginia and New York. The bad guys among police now know better than ever again to give their foes the time and notice to form up for another Bundy Ranch standoff.

Posted by: jdgalt at December 08, 2019 03:02 PM (3SFo/)

288 That sort of judicial murder isn't new for India. They even have a term for it: "Encounter killings". It became pretty common during the Punjabi uprising, to read that terror suspects were killed during an "encounter" with police. Everyone knew that the police had captured some suspects, then just executed them and claimed that they'd been trying to escape, or had opened fire on them.

What's different about the rape suspects in the story here is that the anti-terror executions were in line with government policy. Maybe not on direct orders of the government, but it was understood that such behavior by the police wasn't discouraged, and was even rewarded. Here, though, it sounds as if this might be a local reaction to a local situation, and that could be a sign of the central authorities losing control of the law officers at the ground level.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at December 08, 2019 03:15 PM (Wd63c)

289 A woman died after being set on fire on her way to court by a group of
men that included two of five she had accused of gang rape.

https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/
1203336739655471105

Posted by: andycanuck at December 08, 2019 03:18 PM (Dh1wo)

290 Ruby Ridge, Waco, Bundy Ranch: definitely Deep State, there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Those are totally different situations than what we're talking about here. Provincial cops at a local police station in some remote Indian mountain village shooting known rapists because the villagers demanded it, knowing that the rapists would never be brought to trial, is not the same thing as The Deep State in the US conspiring to oppress or silence critics. Nor are those instances the same thing as some scared highway patrolman shooting some drugged-out maniac who he mistakenly thought had a gun.

Smooshing together all these unrelated cases of "police overreach" into one ill-defined category merely muddies and confuses the issue.

Posted by: zombie at December 08, 2019 03:24 PM (fK2gX)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 12-08-2019

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John K King Used Books, Detroit, MI

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), wits, half-wits, quarter-wits, eighth wits, and the whole geometric series, the sum of which equals two Morons. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, whose ugliness is excelled only by that hat, which looks like something they would use to hide a wireless router.



Pic Note:

This used book shop is just yuuge:

John K. King started in the book business when he was just a teenager in 1965. Since then, he has continually advanced in the field; starting out selling books out of the trunk of his 1954 Packard to present day, offering over a million titles that can only be housed within four expansive floors of seemingly endless shelves.

You could probably spend a week in there and not get to the end of it.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®




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More John K King Used Books



Sometimes 'Free' Is Worth the Price

OM, since you often recommend Kindle versions of books, I wanted to (briefly this time) mention my frustration with Kindle for NOT making available the versions of some books that I'm seeking, but instead making ONLY a version that is sometimes poorly edited and constructed.
And they do some bait and switching with it, as in you'll see the version want in print, then you click on the "Kindle Edition," and it's not only not the same version, but you don't discover that until you read the comments where buyers are furious about it.

Anyone ever mention this to Amazon? I mean anyone with a media voice, and has Amazon ever addressed the topic themselves? It strikes me as shoddy business practice.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2019 11:39 AM (hku12)

I have downloaded free ebooks from Amazon that were formatted so poorly as to be virtually unreadable. I'm sure Amazon has been made aware for this, but by nobody loud enough, so I doubt anything is ever going to be done about it.

This is a site called Standard Ebooks, which is a volunteer-driven, not-for-profit project that produces new editions of public domain ebooks that are lovingly formatted, open source, and free.

Ebook projects like Project Gutenberg transcribe ebooks and make them available for the widest number of reading devices. Standard Ebooks takes ebooks from sources like Project Gutenberg, formats and typesets them using a carefully designed and professional-grade style manual, fully proofreads and corrects them, and then builds them to create a new edition that takes advantage of state-of-the-art ereader and browser technology.

At Standard Ebooks, we do a careful and complete readthrough of each ebook before releasing it, checking it against a scan of the original pages to fix as many typos as possible. Even if we do miss something, our ebooks are stored in the hugely popular Git source control system, allowing anyone to easily submit a correction.

It's all open-source stuff. Authors, editors, proofreaders, and other interested parties can look at their typography manual in order to produce works in accordance with their standard.

The downside here is that Standard Ebooks' catalog is currently very tiny: only a few hundred books. They're adding books, but the progress is very slow. I think what they're doing is a great idea, but they've got a lot of work ahead of them to catch up with Amazon.



Morons On the Loose


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All Good Used Bookstores Have Taxidermy


Apparently, there was an unauthorized Mo-Me in Detroit last week, wherein a motley crew of morons invaded the John K King Bookstore.

I spent yesterday afternoon with fellow Morons at John King Books in Detroit, a four-layer cake of used and rare books...

One could happily spend an entire afternoon in one tiny section of this store. The staff was friendly and knowledgeable. "Where are your cheesy sci-fi paperbacks with Bug-eyed Monsters and chicks in brass bras?" "Right this way, Madam."

Shibumi spent a good half hour reading naughty Victorian limericks aloud.

Posted by: Cardinal Eris (weapons: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, fanatical devotion to the Pope) at December 01, 2019 09:27 AM (Dc2NZ)

I can imagine another version of someone asking a clerk for help in that store:

"Where are your fantasy novels when the world was young, and strong men walked the earth, large, hairy, muscle-bound barbarians with massive thews, bulging biceps, and thighs like oak trees, clad in fabulously furry loin cloths?"

"Right over here, Mr. Buttigieg."

I just hope none of the morons got lost and are still in the store somewhere.



More On Boggies From 'Bored of the Rings'

All boggies originally lived in holes, which is after all hardly surprising for creatures on a first-name basis with rats. In Dildo’s time, their abodes were for the most part built above ground in the manner of elves and men, but these still retained many of the features of their traditional homes and were indistinguishable from the dwellings of those species whose chief function is to meet their makers, around August, deep in the walls of old houses. As a rule, they were dumpling-shaped, built of mulch, silt, stray divots, and other seasonal deposits, often whitewashed by irregular pigeons. Consequently, most boggie towns looked as though some very large and untidy creature, perhaps a dragon, had quite recently suffered a series of disappointing bowel movements in the vicinity.



Who Dis:

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The last 'who dis' I did, a couple of weeks ago, was a photo of Shirley MacLaine



Moron Recommendations

BTW, I'm a fan of Kissinger and have a copy of his Diplomacy on my bookshelf. Very good overview of power politics.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 01, 2019 11:05 AM (cfSRQ)

Ah, Henry the K. Haven't heard his name in a looong time. Let's take a look at Diplomacy, which was published in 1994. The Amazon blurb is pretty lame, and doesn't tell you much, so I just grabbed one of the 5-star reader reviews that looked to be a lot more informative:

The Study of Peace

The study of history often seems to be preoccupied with war. Henry Kissinger corrects the imbalance with his authoritative account of the people who ended wars and preserved the peace, from the time of Napoleon to end of the Cold War. The book is dedicated “to the men and women of the Foreign Service.”

He starts with the Peace of Westphalia and the Congress of Vienna, which pacified Europe for more than one hundred years. In the twentieth century, he is obliged to recount more wars, which he attributes to failures of the Wilsonian approach, and then the mixed success of Kennan’s containment theory.

Kissinger obviously prefers realpolitik, and he mocks the “theological” and “psychological” schools of international relations. He nonetheless admires the United States for its idealistic approach, conceding that no other approach is compatible with America’s core values.

The material on New World Order feels dated, but still a good analysis considering the book came out in 1994. As a history book, Diplomacy amply demonstrates the importance of studying how peace has been maintained in the past, that we may have more of it in future.

Looks like Diplomacy is OOP. But used hardbacks can he purchased starting at $6.27.

But beware of the $11.99 Kindle edition:

The Kindle version, because it leaves out 12 pages of maps, I rate at 2 stars. It is really annoying to buy a book and then find out you've been short changed. The seller should be required to inform the buyer that the Kindle version has been abridged.

This sounds like the tomfoolery with e-versions that BurtTC was complaining about.

Like him or hate him, I would think that Kissinger's stature is such that anything he writes on the subject of international relations is worth reading.

Exit question: Was Kissinger a globalist, a nationalist, or is trying to fit him into one of those categories a bit anachronistic?

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I found Caedfel disappointing. The sensibility was too modern. (And I figured it out too early.)

Posted by: Eeyore at December 01, 2019 09:57 AM (ZbwAu)


You may like Margaret Frazer's Sister Frevisse series.

Posted by: artemis at December 01, 2019 11:05 AM (AwPyG)

I had never heard of this author or Sister Frevisse, so I went looking, and found a lot. The first one is The Novice's Tale:

In the fair autumn of Our Lord's grace 1431, the nuns of England's St. Frideswide's prepare for the simply ceremonies in which the saintly novice Thomasine will take her holy vows. But their quiet lives of beauty and prayer are thrown into chaos by the merciless arrival of Lady Ermentrude Fenner and her retinue of lusty men, sinful women, and baying hounds. The hard-drinking dowager even keeps a pet monkey for her amusement. She demands wine, a feast...

And her niece, the angelic Thomasine.

The lady desires to enrich herself and her reputation by arranging a marriage for the devout novice. She cares nothing for the panic and despair she leaves behind her.

But all her cruel and cunning schemes are brought to a sudden end with strange and most unnatural murder.

As suspicious eyes turn on the pious Thomasine, it falls to Sister Frevisse, hosteler of the priory and amateur detective, to unravel the webs of unholy passion and dark intrigue that entangle the novice and prove her innocence... or condemn her.

There are 17 installments in this series. The Kindle editions appear to be reasonably priced, some for as low as $2.99.

The author passed in 2013.

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And speaking of medieval mysteries:

78 Reading "Thirteenth Night: A Fool's Guild Medieval Mystery " by Alan Gordon, a clever mystery sequel to Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. The Fools Guild is an organization used to keep order in medieval Europe, under cover that Fools (entertainers in many ways) can go anywhere and not be noticed. That sounds overly simple but Gordon's writing is observant, sophisticated, and has just the right amount of humor. The take off on Shakespeare adds to the appeal for me.

If the stories keep up to this level, I'll end up reading the entire series. So far, it is very enjoyable.

Posted by: JTB at December 01, 2019 09:48 AM (bmdz3)

Thirteenth Night: A Fool's Guild Medieval Mystery:

Twelfth Night is for revelry, Thirteenth Night is for revelations...

"Orsino is dead." The message sends the jester Feste, disguised as a German merchant, back to the duchy where, years earlier, he had foiled the plans of Saladin's agent, Malvolio, and secured the duchy for Orsino and his bride, Viola. As agent of the Fool's Guild, Feste must uncover the cause of Orsino's death, be it accidental, suicide, or murder. Has Malvolio returned to win the revenge he swore? Or has another, more sinister cabal plunged the duchy into political upheaval?

There are 8 novels in this series, most of which are $7.99 on Kindle.

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Books By Morons

I have a couple of new (to me) moron authors this week.

First up is Holly LeRoy (a 'ron, not an 'ette) whose latest book is You Kill Me (A Lt. Eve Sharpe Thriller):

LIEUTENANT EVE SHARPE should have seen the avalanche of trouble headed her way but events had dulled her edge and crumbled her foundation of toughness. With the press and politicians all coming for her, Eve begins to question whether she is really a cold blooded murderer or simply losing her mind. Was it an officer involved shooting gone wrong? An honest mistake? Or, something much, much worse?

There's one thing for sure, it has turned the Chicago Police Department upside down, and Lieutenant Eve Sharpe's life along with it.

The Kindle version is only 99 cents, so what can you lose? Also, visit Holly's Amazon page and check out his other books, including Street Crimes, a 21,000 word short-story collection that is "...sometimes funny, sometimes disconcerting, sometimes plain terrifying. Perfect if you like action-packed suspense."

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Moron author Matt Thomas tells me that he found AoSHQ about a year ago which he says he visits

...several times a day. I love the political commentary yet the library, prayer, cooking and pet threads remind me that life is so much more than politics.

His third book, Arcade, has just been released.

In the near-future, our technology centered world is reduced to a pre-industrial state. Explosions around the globe generate electromagnetic pulses that destroy every piece of technology using electronic circuits. Silicon Valley is not immune to the chaos that erupts. In the ruins of the world's technology hub, society's remnants focus on survival.

In the final days before the Change, retired FBI agent Walter Jackson pursues his estranged wife and daughter from Memphis to the Bay Area. His return home now impossible, Walter survives by working for the local police while still seeking his family. He discovers a high-tech company that still operates with food, power and a mission that reaches far beyond our solar system. Its leader, Sloan Holt, is also driven by the need to recover a loved one.

Walter and Sloan collaborate, but other dangers put them at risk - from an industrialist who sees opportunity in the chaos to unknown forces from an alien world. The game of survival is being played out in an apocalyptic arcade.

The Kirkus review says it "appeals to those who like stories such as Ready Player One, Alien and Interstellar."

You can get the Kindle version for $2.99. Matt is also the author of the sci-fi thrillers Seeing By Moonlight and A Sickness in Time.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.



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1 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:01 AM (7EjX1)

2 !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:01 AM (arJlL)

3 Wow! First! That doesn't happen often. Now for the content.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:02 AM (7EjX1)

4 Second?

Posted by: Gultig at December 08, 2019 09:02 AM (kDOvd)

5 I'm amazed a gem like that used book store can exist in Detroit. The parts of the city I've seen looked like Dresden in 1945.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:05 AM (7EjX1)

6 Paul Newman makes a so-so salad dressing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2019 09:06 AM (Z4rgH)

7 Despite its name, Iceland isn't really that cold. A typical winter day in Reykjavik is no worse than Boston or NYC.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 09:06 AM (Xiixu)

8 A uplifting and helpful book for Christians "How Happiness Happens" by retired pastor and devotional writer, Max Lucado. I particularly recommend his sections on "how to get to know people" (that's not the exact title, but it's close) and "How not to pet the peeves" which is something most of us can use help in. I know that I can.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2019 09:07 AM (WI7YS)

9 Yay Book Thread. Thank you OM. Tolle Lege!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 09:07 AM (IttZ7)

10 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:08 AM (Zz0t1)

11 5 I'm amazed a gem like that used book store can exist in Detroit. The parts of the city I've seen looked like Dresden in 1945.
Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:05 AM (7EjX1)

A lot of Michigan cities look that way. There are plenty of derelict houses being demolished all over the state.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:08 AM (U7k5w)

12 Honestly, it doesn't look like Mr. King sells many books. How's he stay in business?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:08 AM (Zz0t1)

13 Those pants are fine. Like the hat too.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Caine Gazelle hybrid at December 08, 2019 09:09 AM (Tnijr)

14 12 Honestly, it doesn't look like Mr. King sells many books. How's he stay in business?
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:08 AM (Zz0t1)

To spite Bezos and Barnes and Noble

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:10 AM (U7k5w)

15 Paul Finebaum.

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2019 09:10 AM (X/Pw5)

16 Has anyone read the new John Le Carre Agent Running in the Field? Only a little ways in and finding it boring and characters uninteresting. Does it get better or should I give it up?

Posted by: Sharon at December 08, 2019 09:10 AM (QzF6i)

17 I have been able to find a ha dual of good new indie authors by reverse searching the kindle syfy listing by price. Look for the free kindle books with high counts of 4 and 5 star ratings.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 08, 2019 09:11 AM (VcFUs)

18 Hanging out with some morons at a good used bookstore sounds like a fun way to spend the afternoon.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2019 09:11 AM (EZebt)

19 Never mind the pants, I want that hat.

Big pimping y'all!

Another Icelandic word is "Gunt". Something you don't want to see out your window and something you definitely don't want to be in.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 09:12 AM (Z+IKu)

20 Paul Newman makes a so-so salad dressing.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2019 09:06 AM (Z4rgH)


Wonder if he'd ever tasted it.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:13 AM (Zz0t1)

21 I read The Daylight War by Peter Brett. This is the third volume of the Demon Cycle series. Part of this book is used to fill the back story of some of the main characters, but the story moves along as humans fight for survival versus the coreling demons. Most importantly, the battle between two candidates for the title of Deliverer is settled. A very good fantasy series.

Posted by: Zoltan at December 08, 2019 09:13 AM (8jlwn)

22 Paul Newman was very sexy in his prime.

Posted by: Sharon at December 08, 2019 09:14 AM (QzF6i)

23 Like him or hate him, I would think that Kissinger's stature is such that anything he writes on the subject of international relations is worth reading.

I'll go with hate. Largely due to him, we now have a powerful and fuckin' crazy geopolitical foe, China.

Thanks, momzer.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2019 09:14 AM (Z4rgH)

24 FIRST +

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 08, 2019 09:14 AM (G546f)

25 That is how I stumbled onto the Jamie McFarland "privateer" series.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 08, 2019 09:15 AM (VcFUs)

26 The Churchill shelf is timely for me. I recently re-read the Tudor part of "The History of the English Speaking Peoples" to get Churchill's perspective on it again since I'd been in a Tudor biography mood recently (Children of Henry VIII, Elizabeth, and Mary Queen of Scots). Winnie didn't waste much time with historical figures he didn't like, so not much about Mary QoS.

The Mary biography I read was John Guy's, which seems well reviewed. My take was that she wasn't as big a dimwit as I'd previously thought, but Guy is nonetheless much too forgiving of her flaws, IMO.

I also thought it was interesting that the people who knew her best (her French Guise relations, the Scottish lairds) were the last to rush to support her. Quite the opposite of Elizabeth.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 08, 2019 09:16 AM (S+f+m)

27 Good morning, all the Horde! A late day for me today, totally exhausted yesterday after a day in the Author Corral at Goliad's Christmas on the Square festival. I looked back in my archives, and it looks like our first stay in the Corral was in 2010. I've done it every year since then, even that awful time when it was 20 degrees with a gale blowing, and everyone packed in in because of a possible ice storm around midday. The weather was beautiful yesterday, there were crowds of people - and I made out very well with the books that I had. Oddly enough, the buyers all wanted the historical novels, not so much the Luna City series, although the Square in Goliad (less the courthouse in the center) is the model for Luna City's Town Square. BTW, the print versions of the two Luna City compendium collections are up, although they still need to be added to my author page - and I've put up a story from the next volume on the lunacitytexas.com website.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 08, 2019 09:16 AM (xnmPy)

28 The bacon is on.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:17 AM (arJlL)

29 I would like to learn Icelandic. It's supposed to be the closest language to proto-English/Norse/German extant.

As a first step, I am wearing a toasty warm Icelandic wool sweater.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 09:18 AM (gd9RK)

30 Meeting my book club tonight to discuss "Death comes for the Archbishop" by Willa Cather. A bit slow moving, but packed with color, atmosphere and characterization about missionaries in the west in the 19th century.

I really like this club because I've read authors/books I wouldn't ordinarily choose (Willa Cather is okay, John Updike was a bust).

Most of all, I love the group because all members will never EVER choose Michelle Obama's memoirs. Our group was specifically organized to exclude lefty/prog BS. It's refreshing in Deep Blue NYC.

Posted by: vivi at December 08, 2019 09:18 AM (11H2y)

31 I check the Kindle Daily Deals each morning. Most times there is nothing of interest but sometimes there's a gem. However, it seems most offerings are romances, just short of the bodice ripper category. (Makes you wonder about Feminazi numbers, unless they are the buyers.) There are so many it's annoying to have to plow through them. But I noticed certain themes. If I were to write the ultimate such romance, it would be something like:

A billionaire cowboy Highlander rescues the girl from danger and/or loneliness (or both) who is invariably bare foot whether walking on a beach or fleeing, looking back over her shoulder, across a glacier studded with sharp stones. Whatever, she must be bare foot. Not sure why. They end up getting married after many difficulties solved by the billionaire's rippling muscles, and use of a broadsword while riding a horse, and economic accumen. The end.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:18 AM (7EjX1)

32 Also re Kissinger, I'd like to point out that Karl Marx and Jonah Goldberg also wrote a buncha words, ...

And their squeakholes need a tuneup.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2019 09:19 AM (Z4rgH)

33 I have Geronimo by Mike Leach loaned to me to read. Haven't started it yet.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

34 The bacon is on.
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:17 AM (arJlL)


What channel?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:21 AM (Zz0t1)

35 The bacon is on.
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:17 AM (arJlL)

What channel?
Posted by: Sponge

Split screen: some on my plate; some still in da pan.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:24 AM (arJlL)

36

JT "The bacon is on"

YOU? why then I'll have a MOOSE_WORTHY PORTION, and a side of everthing ,booze included...chop chop Oh and them too...........

you gonna waffle out of this WIN WIN?

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 09:24 AM (5IHGB)

37 Icelandic passed an qual pay law recently. My LinkedIn feed was abuzz with it. Yeay!! Equality!! Yet nobody could really answer the question of how do you define equality, since there are 1000 variables that go into determining what someone should be paid.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 09:25 AM (Xiixu)

38 read Monster Hunter Guardian which is Sarah Hoyt's venture into Correia's universe, and also iianm, the furst Monster Hunter from a female POV

liked it a lot

Also found an old Roger Zelazny at the library - A Night in the Lonesome October, which is a story from a dog familiar, interacting eith other familiars of some favorite Halloween baddies

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 08, 2019 09:25 AM (G546f)

39 I continue with the LOTR audio books which are turning out to be delightful. It takes longer than reading but that was part of the idea: to take my time and concentrate on the words and pacing. I'm curious about how the battle scenes will translate into audio. My only gripe is the audio version doesn't include the prologue and intro material. It starts with chapter one. I had to read the intro pages as they are part of the story for me.

I should check into other classics on audio CD to see if they are as good. Perhaps The Odyssey, Canterbury Tales, or Jules Verne stories would work in audio. I could look for audio of Shakespeare's sonnets but I have my own ideas about how they should sound.


The rest of the time I've been reading about hobby matters: fishing and shooting with black powder. Both are soothing topics.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:26 AM (7EjX1)

40 I really liked the Cadfael series but the sensibility really is too modern. In one novel, two young lovers get it on in the church and Cadfael basically says no place is too holy to house love. Pretty sure this is not an accurate reflection of the sentiment of the times on that subject.

I read the Thirteenth Night book and hated it. I just didn't get into the story and I didn't care for the main character at all.

I have the Sister Frevisse on my to read list. I will have to move it up to my priority list and give it a shot.

In the same genre, the Owen Archer series and the Servant of the Crown series are good British medieval mystery series.

The Medicus series with Gaius Petreius Ruso is also very good, although it is set in Roman Britain, about a thousand years earlier than the others.

Posted by: Sisqui at December 08, 2019 09:28 AM (ienGK)

41 Finally finished Richard the Third by Paul Murray Kendall.

Excellent history,

And, a moron, I forget which, asked me if the book covered whether or not Richard killed the young princes.

The book talks about several possibilities and, I think this is the most likely, the Duke of Buckingham, was, in the end, the person who did the deed, unbeknownst to Richard, because the Duke had his eye on the throne. Then, after he rebelled, his head was removed by Richard.

Best guess: Richard kept his own counsel fairly well, and, was the type of person who, since it happened during his reign, it was his fault, especially since, in the phrasing of the time, "he held the viper to his bosom."

Interesting read, and it appears the calumny heaped on Richard was, in a lot of ways, not as deserved as perceived and was done more to justify the reign of the Tudors.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 09:29 AM (WEBkv)

42
There are books in Detroit? Used books? Used for what?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 09:30 AM (pNxlR)

43 That intersection looks familiar.
Too bad those types of bookshops are almost all gone.
GLUGGAVEDUR is hard to pronounce.
Paul Neman. He is famous for condiments.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 09:30 AM (zr5Kq)

44 Even if it's these pants, whose ugliness is excelled only by that hat, which looks like something they would use to hide a wireless router.


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I'm not saying it's aliens, but ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 08, 2019 09:30 AM (WqPYg)

45 30 The bacon is on.
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:17 AM (arJlL)
------------

The French Toast has syrup on it.

Repeat: the French Toast has syrup on it

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 09:31 AM (WEBkv)

46 I've been lurking here for weeks. First time commenter. Love your [insert name of blog here} site. I wrote a book. Please buy it. And leave a review. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Self-published author who read the tips on how to increase sales at December 08, 2019 09:31 AM (m45I2)

47 Haven't seen pictures of that "baby Yoda" thing before. Yoda had whites in his eyes, so I would take it as another horrible Disney redesign.

Diplomacy is Kissinger's best book; his first on nuclear weapons was bland and fairly useless even for when it was written. Diplomacy is entertaining and interesting, but you can also tell that he is a big fan of the notion that the world order has always been run and maintained by a few master statesmen, like Metternich, Bismarck and himself.

Posted by: MKoepf at December 08, 2019 09:31 AM (DfSI5)

48 Also found an old Roger Zelazny at the library - A Night in the Lonesome October, which is a story from a dog familiar, interacting eith other familiars of some favorite Halloween baddies

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 08, 2019 09:25 AM (G546f)


If held at gunpoint and forced to name ONE sci-fi author to begin with, Mr. Zelazny would be my answer.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2019 09:32 AM (Z4rgH)

49 "GLUGGAVEDUR is hard to pronounce"

And sing!

Posted by: Baby it's GLUGGAVEDUR outside at December 08, 2019 09:33 AM (Tnijr)

50 I read LOTR to my kids, and came away convinced that Tolkein wrote it to be read aloud. The cadences really sing, and you notice that parts of it are written in different meters.

In Real Life I'm a writer, and one thing I do in the final proofing before I send in a story or a book is to read it all aloud (whispered or muttered to spare my throat).

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:33 AM (urZJh)

51
Shibumi spent a good half hour reading naughty Victorian limericks aloud.

This surprises me, not.

Although, she was probably reciting them from memory.

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 08, 2019 09:34 AM (DJL/n)

52 I don't know which is worse: that someone could imagine the 'these pants' outfit or that they found someone so desperate for money that he agreed to pose in it. He's obviously starving, looks like he has a 16 inch waist.

Perhaps LSD is making a comeback among clothing designers. How else to explain that hat. Or maybe the idea is to make burkas look not so bad by comparison.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:34 AM (7EjX1)

53 Aside from the pattern, I don't see anything to complain about regarding those pants. The hat looks like this is a boss villain in a Chinese fantasy martial arts movie.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:36 AM (urZJh)

54 When I was a kid we read the picture book The Hobbit. I don't think we ever heard of LOTR.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 09:36 AM (n13/j)

55 I also was disappointed in Cadfael because of the modern attitudes. That gets me about a lot of historical fiction, really. What I WANT is to get a real sense of what another time and place was like, not just watch a bunch of Current Year dipshits cosplaying.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:37 AM (urZJh)

56 I would like to learn Icelandic. It's supposed to be the closest language to proto-English/Norse/German extant.

As a first step, I am wearing a toasty warm Icelandic wool sweater.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 09:18 AM (gd9RK)


It's a weird language. People in Iceland seemingly are all very proficient in English but prefer to converse among themselves in Icelandic so I assume it's an expressive way to communicate.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 09:38 AM (y7DUB)

57 I have been working my way through a Baen anthology of Christopher Anvil's short stories (one of five by Baen by the way) called The Trouble With Aliens.

Anvil was a prolific writer for Astounding/Analog and he wrote a very humorous alien and spaceship stories, they all centered around perception, understanding, and the problem of seizing on a wrong idea and chasing yourself up a tree with it.

My favorite story in the anthology is Mission of Ignorance, where a very fresh 2nd LT is given the temporary rank of Sky Marshall and position of Minister Plenipotentiary, and sent to negotiate with the Aliens who have returned decades after providing Humanity with advanced computing technology, highly fertile food crops, effective birth control, and vague promises to return to invite Humanity into the Confederation of Worlds.
Everyone in the story is trying to pull a fast one, but the question is why, and for what end?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 09:38 AM (1glZx)

58 I will repost some suggestions I gad fir grammie, in case anyone else is shopping for a 2nd - 3rd grader

for boys:
My weird school series by Gutman
Geronimo Stilton series (around the world adventures)

slightly more advanced reader skills-
Bailey school books

for girls:
Mercy Watson pig
Bunjitsu (girl)

also there's the Magic Tree House books

newer books at this level check out Branches by scholastic 

And BTW I saw a pretty cool picture book for this age - Just Like Rube Goldberg by Sarah Aronson



Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (G546f)

59 >Shibumi spent a good half hour reading naughty Victorian limericks aloud.

This surprises me, not.

Although, she was probably reciting them from memory.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 08, 2019 09:34 AM (DJL/n)


The book had a glossary, in case you didn't know what all the words meant. Or didn't want to admit that you knew.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (t+qrx)

60 Mentioning Zelazny brought back memories. Bought my first dog, a champion lab, after reading Nine Princes in Amber. Named him Corwin of Amber. Bought a female and the pair had four litters of puppies before I had to have hr spayed.

Posted by: Sharon at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (QzF6i)

61 The four closest used book stores in my area are very, very liberal. Recently I went looking for a Thomas Sowell book and I had to explain who he is to the owner of one of the shops. The owner was an older woman, someone I would have expected to at least heard his name, but no. Same with Roger Scruton. Never heard of him!

Neither the Economics section, nor the Philosophy or Social Science sections had any books written by authors on the right side of the spectrum.

Books by Maya Angelou and Elizabeth Warren on display by the register, tho.

This is in a college town. Disheartening to say the least.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (cBpq4)

62 Lot of Churchill on those shelves. All six volumes of his History of WWII, plus some others.

"In War: Resolution, In Defeat: Defiance, In Victory: Magnanimity, In Peace: Goodwill"

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (m45I2)

63 44 ... "Interesting read, and it appears the calumny heaped on Richard was, in a lot of ways, not as deserved as perceived and was done more to justify the reign of the Tudors."

Blake, Since the topic interests you, check out "The Daughter of Time" by Josephine Tey. It's a delightful mystery dealing with the Richard III question.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (7EjX1)

64 GLUGGAVEDUR

Sounds like a scotch.

Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2019 09:42 AM (X/Pw5)

65
Blake, Since the topic interests you, check out "The Daughter of Time" by Josephine Tey. It's a delightful mystery dealing with the Richard III question.
Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (7EjX1)
---------------

Thank you for the suggestion and the book has been ordered.

I'm not wedded to any particular period so much as I just like history.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 09:42 AM (WEBkv)

66 Has anyone read the new John Le Carre Agent Running in the Field? Only a little ways in and finding it boring and characters uninteresting. Does it get better or should I give it up?

Posted by: Sharon at December 08, 2019 09:10 AM (QzF6i)


It is one long anti-Brexit and anti-Trump diatribe, so it is not going to get better.

If you want some le Carre, read A Legacy of Spies instead. It is the conclusion to the Smiley series and the only decent book he has written since 9/11.

Or read some Charles McCarry or Len Deighton instead.

Posted by: cool breeze at December 08, 2019 09:42 AM (UGKMd)

67 I also was disappointed in Cadfael because of the
modern attitudes. That gets me about a lot of historical fiction,
really. What I WANT is to get a real sense of what another time and
place was like, not just watch a bunch of Current Year dipshits
cosplaying.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:37 AM (urZJh)

i dont' know what Cadfael is really. But I had the same experience trying to read Cain at Gettyburg by that awful Lt. Col. Everyone praised the book but it was obviously an anachronism. I hate when people try to put modern dialogue and modern issues into history.
That is one reason I couldn't get through the first ten minutes of Deadwood. I know many if not most loved the thing but it did not ring true to me. I might give the show another chance but something about it really bothered me. I have probably read over one hundred western novels, twenty academic histories of the Old West, and watched a hundred Western movies. Deadwood stood out in ten minutes as being something that came off as false and presentist. Others may disagree and that is fine.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 09:43 AM (n13/j)

68 Thanks. Was just looking for an excuse to stop reading it. Have two much better books in the queue including the next book in the Karin Slaughter Will Trnt series.

Posted by: Sharon at December 08, 2019 09:44 AM (QzF6i)

69 Lot of Churchill on those shelves. All six volumes of his History of WWII, plus some others.



"In War: Resolution, In Defeat: Defiance, In Victory: Magnanimity, In Peace: Goodwill"

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (m45I2)

We had his World War Two series and his famous History of the English Speaking Peoples growing up.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 09:44 AM (n13/j)

70 I finally finished Tom Jones. If I have any complaint it's that the book is so damn long that when you get to the end and everything is resolved to the gnat's eyelash, it involves characters from way back at the start about whom I've lost all memories of nuance. But that's a minor quibble in an essential early comedic romp. At the end Sophia was reticent about getting married to someone who fucked everything that moved until he proved he could curb his overeager johnson but then her father said "I want you hitched now" and she said "welp ok".

Have any of you read any other Fielding?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 09:45 AM (y7DUB)

71 54 Reading LOTR to kids aloud...
=====================

I still recall Mom's voice reading "Tom Sawyer" to me as a five year old: "Tom! You Tom!" Twain was marvelous aloud.

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 09:45 AM (B8eTP)

72 Currently finishing up Douglas Brinkley's _American Moonshot_, which is good. I think I talked about it last week -- a good political history of the early manned space program, focusing on Kennedy. I find myself liking him more and more over time, despite the hagiography. I wish the Democrats hadn't decided to adopt Lee Harvey Oswald as their model.

Also an old SF potboiler by Gregory Benford and Gordon Eklund, _Find the Changeling_. Its very different from anything else by Benford I've read, but not in a good way. Two unpleasant mismatched buddy cops from a rather totalitarian future Earth are hunting a psychopathic shapeshifter on a remote colony world which is pretty dismal, too.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:45 AM (urZJh)

73 John le Carre just means John the Square. I don't get why people think that saying it in French classies it up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 09:45 AM (gd9RK)

74 I have always found LeCarre to be a tedious slog and don't think I ever actually finished one of his books. And the "Night Manager" adaptation with Dr. House was preposterously ridiculous in many ways. Meh.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 09:46 AM (m45I2)

75 So, I am back to Richard Harding Davis. Found out that our public library system carries almost none of his titles. Can't understand it. Hemingway's are everywhere in every possible form - audio, large print, ebook, but not Davis'.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 09:47 AM (zr5Kq)

76 This is in a college town. Disheartening to say the least.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 08, 2019 09:39 AM (cBpq4)

no chance they have heard of Thomas Sowell. That is by design. They probably know a lot about books, just not "those kind of books".

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 09:47 AM (n13/j)

77 Morning Horde - Finished Slaughter-House by Dominic Pacyga this week. Tells the story of the Union Stockyards in Chicago. Overall, I liked it but his bias against the packers vs. the union interests showed through a bit too much for me. Still a good read. Began Little Ship, Big War by Stafford on Friday. VERY enjoyable so far.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 09:47 AM (Y4EXg)

78 Most of all, I love the group because all members will never EVER choose Michelle Obama's memoirs. Our group was specifically organized to exclude lefty/prog BS. It's refreshing in Deep Blue NYC.
Posted by: vivi at December 08, 2019 09:18 AM (11H2y)

Sounds very non-inclusive, H8ter! But great

The only Tolkien I've read to the grandsons was Roverandom.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:47 AM (U7k5w)

79 From what I am reading:

"It comes rather easy to most of us to make ourselves think a thing is good and nice when it would cost us something to think otherwise."

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 09:48 AM (Tnijr)

80 The book is so damn boring, I can't figure out why it was a most requested book at the library. The guy is a badminton champion......does anyone need to read more than that?

Posted by: Sharon at December 08, 2019 09:48 AM (QzF6i)

81 I finished Homage to Catalonia, and haven't started anything new yet. I'm leaning towards more Orwell, because why not, but I found a hefty CS Lewis anthology that is calling me away. Maybe I'll just finish a few other projects first.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:50 AM (U7k5w)

82 I am reading a book about the early saints and mystics of the Church and the glimpses they were given if Hell. Pretty scary stuff

Posted by: Jmel at December 08, 2019 09:51 AM (OeWgo)

83 he guy is a badminton champion......does anyone need to read more than that?

*******

I saw the live theater adaptation of that. "Bye, Bye Birdie"

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 09:51 AM (m45I2)

84 50 I've been lurking here for weeks. First time commenter. Love your [insert name of blog here} site. I wrote a book. Please buy it. And leave a review. Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Self-published author who read the tips on how to increase sales at December 08, 2019 09:31 AM (m45I2)

I very much enjoyed reading (Title) by (debut / veteran/ bestselling / beloved / controversial) writer (Name)

It was so
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[ ] thought -provoking
[ ] romantic
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Read it today. Click my ads.

Posted by: reviews r us wholesale at December 08, 2019 09:51 AM (G546f)

85 GLUGGAVEDUR

Sounds like a scotch.
Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2019 09:42 AM (X/Pw5)

Or an Icelandic name - like Guomundur, Grimheidur.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 09:52 AM (zr5Kq)

86 Interesting read, and it appears the calumny heaped on Richard was, in a lot of ways, not as deserved as perceived and was done more to justify the reign of the Tudors."




So, it's the first season of Blackadder?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 08, 2019 09:53 AM (eXA4G)

87 The most annoying thing I read this week wasn't a book or an article, but a bumper sticker. I was behind a Prius (of course) with a sticker reading "I love Obama, and I think her husband is pretty good, too!"

It haunts me: someone out there, evidently able to own and operate a car, presumably with a job, maybe with a family, is nevertheless stupid enough to a) believe that idiocy, and b) feel the need to advertise it to the world.

I console myself with the thought that it's probably just virtue-signalling. The Prius driver put that sticker on the car so everyone would know she (gotta be a woman) has the Correct Thoughts for the Current Year. But deep down inside she knows it's a lie, and maybe despises herself a little? One can hope.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:54 AM (urZJh)

88 "he guy is a badminton champion......does anyone need to read more than that?
*******
I saw the live theater adaptation of that. "Bye, Bye Birdie"

Sounds like a pretty good racket. What does he net?

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 09:54 AM (Tnijr)

89 82 ... "The only Tolkien I've read to the grandsons was Roverandom."

A couple of other Tolkien books: "Letters from Father Christmas" and "Mr. Bliss". They should be read with the kids, not just to them, since Tolkien's illustrations are an important part of the books.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:55 AM (7EjX1)

90 Diplomacy is Kissinger's best book; his first on
nuclear weapons was bland and fairly useless even for when it was
written. Diplomacy is entertaining and interesting, but you can also
tell that he is a big fan of the notion that the world order has always
been run and maintained by a few master statesmen, like Metternich,
Bismarck and himself.
Posted by: MKoepf at December 08, 2019 09:31 AM (DfSI5)


So you think that Kissinger was taken by the idea of greatness to the point that he neglected to consider the actual results of such a world run by master statesmen?

. . . Because Metternich and Bismarck's shepherding and rearranging their political and economic worlds prevented all that warfare, assured individual freedom, damped down the drive for revolution, restrained social upheaval, and ultimately prevented the dismemberment of their own political systems.
Which is why the Austrian and Prussian Empires are the world striding political entities they are today. [/sarc]

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (1glZx)

91 Listening to "The Second World Wars" by VDH and liking it. Focuses on the bigger picture, the who and why and how of things rather than details of battles, though there are details, some brutal. The Air, Sea, and Land wars are all covered separately.

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (B8eTP)

92 Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:54 AM (urZJh)

Nauseating. It's people like the Obamas who created the framework for the Pensacola shooting and this transgender mass psychosis

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (U7k5w)

93 So why can we never get goodminton?

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (urZJh)

94 So, it's the first season of Blackadder?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 08, 2019 09:53 AM (eXA4G)
-------------

I think the first season of Blackadder drew more inspiration from Wagner.

After all, everyone died at the end.

Oh wait, that's pretty much Blackadder throughout.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (WEBkv)

95 I saw a few films by Baltasar Kormakur, so I am an expert on all thing Iceland.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (zr5Kq)

96 The guy is a badminton champion....

I bet Ladyl could kick his butt !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (arJlL)

97 *things

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (zr5Kq)

98 GLUGGAVEDUR

That was my nom de guerre in college.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at December 08, 2019 09:58 AM (EgshT)

99 100 The guy is a badminton champion....

I bet Ladyl could kick his butt !
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (arJlL)

Competitive badminton is a thing? Where?

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:58 AM (U7k5w)

100 I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.

Posted by: Don Henley at December 08, 2019 09:59 AM (IttZ7)

101 So why can we never get goodminton?
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (urZJh)


Because we're not Prussian. They're the ones going on about the goodmintons.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 09:59 AM (t+qrx)

102 Under " Who Dis ", I believe that he is Paul Newman during the filming of " Cool Hand Luke ".

"The author passed in 2013." Really, what did she pass, English 1A, Geography, gas, or what. I know what you meant to convey- that she DIED.
Don't weasel word it. I highly dislike weasel words and am not much fonder of those who use them. This is my first visit to your site in a very long time and I have found much to like, especially the post on the book store, a place I would like to visit. It puts me in mind of Powell' s Books in Portland, OR. So please don't spoil it by using euphemisms.

Thanks for the post.
Paul L. Quandt

Posted by: Paul L. Quandt at December 08, 2019 10:00 AM (NCTqq)

103 John le Carre just means John the Square. I don't get why people think that saying it in French classies it up.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 09:45 AM (gd9RK)


Le Carre had a few reasons to change his name, 1) MI6 doesn't allow officers to publish under their own names and 2) his daddy, Ronnie Cornwell, was a notorious con man.

Le Carre's MI6 career was cut short when his identity was exposed by British traitor and double agent Kim Philby.

Posted by: cool breeze at December 08, 2019 10:00 AM (UGKMd)

104 Posted by: Jmel - what is the title?

Florida Man, I read the print version - very nice - for me, VDH rarely disappoints.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:00 AM (Y4EXg)

105
Because we're not Prussian. They're the ones going on about the goodmintons.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 09:59 AM (t+qrx)

I thought Minton was a good English porcelain company, not German. Oops

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 10:00 AM (U7k5w)

106 Last trip home I went to the King bookstore, unfortunately didn't have a lot of time. I found a book on trees in the garden section whose author said he wrote it to help the public learn the trees around them. It even came with linen strips to mount specimens. It appears to have been used by an afternoon ladies party in 1893, judging by the penciled notes--the leaves they collected are still mounted in the book.

Posted by: Lirio100 at December 08, 2019 10:01 AM (JK7Jw)

107 I check the Kindle Daily Deals each morning. Most times there is nothing of interest but sometimes there's a gem. However, it seems most offerings are romances, just short of the bodice ripper category. (Makes you wonder about Feminazi numbers, unless they are the buyers.)

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 09:18 AM (7EjX1)


This is why I stopped checking the Kindle "Deal o' the Day" some years ago. All of their selections seemed geared toward a female audience, and nothing interested me.

Recommend you subscribe to something like BookBub. Their daily selections are a bit more (dare I say it) diverse.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:01 AM (1Hdxn)

108 I did put in a big Amazon order for some books to give as Christmas presents. About half were books I heard about from the Horde during the past year.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 10:01 AM (urZJh)

109 OT: Last night's post about snowball throwing banned in Wausau, Wis -- not only at people but in streets, etc... Geez, I did it just for the love of throwing!

Didja notice that the things being banned - dodgeball, tag, climbing on monkeybars - are mostly enjoyed by boys?

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 10:01 AM (B8eTP)

110 I have been working my way through a Baen anthology of Christopher Anvil's short stories (one of five by Baen by the way) called The Trouble With Aliens.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 09:38 AM (1glZx)

Just put this on my list. I like the "send in the guy who knows nothing to fool the telepaths" type of stories

Posted by: Sisqui at December 08, 2019 10:03 AM (ienGK)

111 Recommend you subscribe to something like BookBub.

Is there a BookBewb ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:03 AM (arJlL)

112 Finished Col. Schlichter's latest, Collapse. Always a good page turner with plenty of sjw snark.
Failifornia gets taken back. Next one will be the east coast I assume.

Posted by: RI Red at December 08, 2019 10:03 AM (KcR2f)

113 I also finished Nabokov's Invitation to a Beheading. Everything was so nightmare worldish in it that I was wondering if the whole thing would be revealed as a construct of Cincinnatus (instead of the author) but he was really beheaded at the end, which released him to finally be around normal people.

Nabokov subsequently said that he hadn't read any Kafka at the time and wasn't influenced by him in this. It's a work that's quite timely for what we're going through although I'm sure academics would say the same thing for completely opposite reasons like they do about 1984. He wrote it quite quickly while also writing The Gift, which took much longer to complete. Pretty amazing that he could be working on two major works simultaneously.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 10:03 AM (y7DUB)

114 that the world order has always
been run and maintained by a few master statesmen, like Metternich,
Bismarck and himself.


Was he wrong

Posted by: Jeb! at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (DG8AN)

115 Last night's post about snowball throwing banned in Wausau, Wis -



why ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (zr5Kq)

116
Police Use Innocent Bystanders As Human Meat Shields

Good video and good comments below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldX-zaFxdbI

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (YXQrO)

117 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (u82oZ)

118 Joseph Andrews by Fielding is also a good read. Fielding also wrote Amelia. Never read it but it is not a picaresque romp from what I surmise.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (QZCjk)

119 Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.



I'll do what I can !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (zr5Kq)

120 Morning NaCly!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (Y4EXg)

121 next on my to read is Triggered by Don Jr

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (G546f)

122 Well hell OM, looks like you've annoyed Mr Quatloo. This outrage will not stand!

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (cknjq)

123 The most annoying thing I read this week wasn't a
book or an article, but a bumper sticker. I was behind a Prius (of
course) with a sticker reading "I love Obama, and I think her husband is
pretty good, too!"



It haunts me: someone out there, evidently able to own and operate a
car, presumably with a job, maybe with a family, is nevertheless stupid
enough to a) believe that idiocy, and b) feel the need to advertise it
to the world.



I console myself with the thought that it's probably just
virtue-signalling. The Prius driver put that sticker on the car so
everyone would know she (gotta be a woman) has the Correct Thoughts for
the Current Year. But deep down inside she knows it's a lie, and maybe
despises herself a little? One can hope.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:54 AM (urZJh)

There is a lot worse than that these days. Hell we used to make fun of Clinton, "and her husband" a couple decades ago. I saw one recently that really set me off. It said "Jesus, please protect me from your followers".

I should not have done so but I honked and gave the middle finger. The funny thing is, the car was well in front of me in massive traffic. There was no way to know to whom I was reacting but she did. know. She started screaming and gesturing until traffic moved on.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (n13/j)

124 Shirley MacLaine. Pretty sure she used to be someone.

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 10:06 AM (fF2Sv)

125 next on my to read is Triggered by Don Jr

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (G546f)

it was shockingly on sale at Target the other day.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:06 AM (n13/j)

126 115 Recommend you subscribe to something like BookBub.

Is there a BookBewb ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:03 AM (arJlL)


Yes, it will keep you abreast of the latest best sellers.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:06 AM (1Hdxn)

127
I saw a few films by Baltasar Kormakur, so I am an expert on all thing Iceland.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 09:56 AM (zr5Kq)


You gotta get some Bjork albums too.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 10:07 AM (1glZx)

128 I saw my first "Pete" bumper sticker this week. The driver looked like you might expect.

Ignorant, that is.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:07 AM (Y4EXg)

129 68 GLUGGAVEDUR

Sounds like a scotch.
Posted by: BignJames at December 08, 2019 09:42 AM (X/Pw5)

Probably from the Islands, which were under Scandinavian control.

Posted by: Zathras at December 08, 2019 10:07 AM (qyH+l)

130 Nice !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:07 AM (arJlL)

131 I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac.
Posted by: Don Henley at December 08, 2019 09:59 AM (IttZ7)


Was it one of those pieces of shit with single exhaust? I see those and think "why was this made?"

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 10:07 AM (y7DUB)

132 You gotta get some Bjork albums too.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 10:07 AM (1glZx)


Why yes, I have some of her stuff. Why ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:08 AM (zr5Kq)

133 When I have no need to eave the house, I love GLUGGAVEĐUR. It's perfect reading weather. My first reading of "Hound of the Baskervilles" was on just such a cold, stormy night.

That was in grade school and involved a glass of milk and candy bars. Now it's a comfortable chair, good reading lamps, excellent coffee, tea, or whisky (or all three in some combination), and some good pipe tobacco.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 10:08 AM (7EjX1)

134 My first reading of "Hound of the Baskervilles" was on just such a cold, stormy night.





Perfect !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:08 AM (zr5Kq)

135 Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (n13/j)

I'm sure her 5,500 word article on the incident will show up on some lefty website soon.

Yeah, it's rude, but so is unprovoked dumping on people.

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:09 AM (U7voe)

136 I saw a jalopy the other day with a Jaguar hood ornament. I gave the guy credit for self awareness and a sense of humor.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:09 AM (n13/j)

137 Pretty shabby copy of the Churchill there!!!, As to Henry the K , I think of him more as the Bismarckian . No set 'principles' but a constant evaluator of risks and opportunities . And Diplomacy is quite good , I think his Doomsday Machine analysis on WW1 is pretty good, even of a bit to simplistic . The Sleepwalkers is more nuanced and the duplicitous french come off very badly therein as they should

Posted by: jaytrain at December 08, 2019 10:09 AM (eh3OZ)

138 Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (n13/j)



I'm sure her 5,500 word article on the incident will show up on some lefty website soon.



Yeah, it's rude, but so is unprovoked dumping on people.

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:09 AM (U7voe)

yeah. She had no chance to tape me so i did not go viral.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:09 AM (n13/j)

139 126 Well hell OM, looks like you've annoyed Mr Quatloo. This outrage will not stand!
Posted by: weirdflunky at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (cknjq)


Dang right. I'll go right out and do.... something.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:10 AM (1Hdxn)

140 The only reading I've been doing lately is a beginner's Russian-English dictionary. I try to do a page or two every night before I go to sleep.

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:10 AM (U7voe)

141 So, is Eris locked in the DEE-troit bookstore and she has to read her way out ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:10 AM (arJlL)

142 Why yes, I have some of her stuff. Why ?
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:08 AM (zr5Kq)


The Icelandic government gave her an island because she sold so many albums.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (1glZx)

143 We need to rescue Eris!

Posted by: Weasel at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (MVjcR)

144 Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:10 AM (arJlL)

That's a short story idea right there.

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (U7voe)

145 I thought, by law, all Prius bumpers must have a "Coexist" bumper sticker.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (IttZ7)

146 BTW can The Horde recommend a good serious history of the KKK , particularly its 19C origins . 'Serious' : scholarly but not turgid.

Posted by: jaytrain at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (eh3OZ)

147
Yeah I think ALL the D candidates are just their first names for their campaign logo.

Mike!
Amy!
Pete!
Tulsi!
Wang! (wait, what?)
Devil! (wait, come on)

Except Biden. His crap says says joe biden, but the j-o-e has an obama O and the E is supposed to be the stripes in our flag.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (YXQrO)

148 The only reading I've been doing lately is a beginner's Russian-English dictionary. I try to do a page or two every night before I go to sleep.
Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:10 AM (U7voe)

Ah, using dictionary as a sleep aid. WHo would have thought of that ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (zr5Kq)

149 I also have a shelf of Agatha Christie books I could read. The problem with those is I saw most of the stories on television and they have been changes so much, that I get annoyed with the shows.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (U7k5w)

150 I should not have done so but I honked and gave the middle finger. The funny thing is, the car was well in front of me in massive traffic. There was no way to know to whom I was reacting but she did. know. She started screaming and gesturing until traffic moved on.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:05 AM (n13/j)


Well, the trouble with that is Mrs. Muse is the same way. We're driving someplace, she hears a horn honk from some random car, and she *immediately* assumes it was because of something she did.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (1Hdxn)

151 BTW can The Horde recommend a good serious history
of the KKK , particularly its 19C origins . 'Serious' : scholarly but
not turgid.

Posted by: jaytrain at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (eh3OZ)

who gives a shit about them.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (n13/j)

152 147 We need to rescue Eris!
Posted by: Weasel at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (MVjcR)
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Yeah, probably like the proverbial Irishman that fell into a vat of Guinness and fought, bravely, until he drowned, against those who tried to save him.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (WEBkv)

153 I've noticed with bumper stickers, the right leaning ones are usually a "here is what I believe" message. With leftists it's almost always a "here is who I hate" message.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:14 AM (Xiixu)

154 I've actually noticed the rise in aggressively insulting bumper stickers over the past couple of decades. Time was, they were mostly lame jokes, names of businesses, bragging about places you visited, and the names of political candidates you support. That was about it.

But since the late Nineties I've seen more and more smug passive-aggressive insult stickers. "Republicans for Voldemort" or "Frodo failed -- Cheney has the Ring" or the reliable old "village is missing its idiot."

Somewhere we crossed a line, when people stopped saying "hooray for my team" and switched to "anyone who doesn't agree with me is evil and stupid."

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 10:14 AM (urZJh)

155
Yeah, probably like the proverbial Irishman that fell into a vat of Guinness and fought, bravely, until he drowned, against those who tried to save him.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (WEBkv)
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Well, yeah. Prolly like that.

Posted by: Weasel at December 08, 2019 10:14 AM (MVjcR)

156 Well, the trouble with that is Mrs. Muse is the same way. We're driving someplace, she hears a horn honk from some random bar, and she *immediately* assumes it was because of something she did.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (1Hdxn)
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You have a horn on the passenger side of your cars?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 10:15 AM (WEBkv)

157 The Icelandic government gave her an island because she sold so many albums.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (1glZx)

Iceland is on my 'list of places to visit soon'.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:15 AM (zr5Kq)

158 Posted by: jaytrain at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (eh3OZ)

I'm gonna spitball that the biggest issue here is someone being able to write one while remaining dispassionate and just report the facts straight. Topics like Nazis and such tend to bring out the lazy knee jerk in writers.

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (U7voe)

159 149 I thought, by law, all Prius bumpers must have a "Coexist" bumper sticker.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 10:12 AM (IttZ7)

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That's Subaru.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (Xiixu)

160
I've seen a couple "Any Functioning Adult 2020" stickers.

Which is code for any Democrat.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (YXQrO)

161 Biden's campaign seems to be based on "I met Obama a couple of times!"

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (urZJh)

162 Well, the trouble with that is Mrs. Muse is the same
way. We're driving someplace, she hears a horn honk from some random
bar, and she *immediately* assumes it was because of something she did.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:13 AM (1Hdxn)

It was funny really. We were in major traffic. This car was well in front of me in the other lane. I went off honking and flashing the bird out my window. She knew immediately it was towards her car and not all the others. She was trying to provoke and got a response. i am not proud of responding but that line in particular set me off.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:17 AM (n13/j)

163 I work at a library. Patrons just love them those robo-authors who crank out a book a month: Patterson, Scottoline, Steele, Cussler...etc. When they ask me to reco a title they're met with the Thousand Yard Stare.

Posted by: kallisto at December 08, 2019 10:17 AM (GLtAj)

164 That's Subaru.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (Xiixu)

And Volvos.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:17 AM (ECrgQ)

165 OT q - how do I find help for a local tax collector screw up problem?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:17 AM (G546f)

166
A few years ago at a Costco gas station I saw a douche bag with the bumper sticker: "Tea Parties Are For Little Girls."

I seriously contemplated hurting him.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:18 AM (YXQrO)

167 169 OT q - how do I find help for a local tax collector screw up problem?
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:17 AM (G546f)

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Start by going to the tax collector and explaining the issue. I once had my property tax bill cut by 20% with a simple email to the assessor.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (Xiixu)

168 OT q - how do I find help for a local tax collector screw up problem?
Posted by: vmom


state, county or city ?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (zr5Kq)

169 Seems like there's a good Ph.D. thesis in sociology waiting to be written about bumper stickers.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (urZJh)

170 We need to rescue Eris!
Posted by: Weasel

Ya know what ?

I'm confident that Eris can handle anything that comes her way.

AND......

I had oatmeal this morning, and based on my experiences with oatmeal, the Allied stockpile for D-Day is nothing compared to what's coming.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (arJlL)

171 The guy in the picture?
Never seen him before

Tolle Lege, but have nothing new yet to read

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (ZCEU2)

172 A few years ago at a Costco gas station I saw a douche bag with the bumper sticker: "Tea Parties Are For Little Girls."



I seriously contemplated hurting him.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:18 AM (YXQrO)

I hear ya. But I still say mine was worse if we are going to compare lol. The one you mention is kind of funny really. I am with ya, but you have to admit at least that is clever.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:20 AM (n13/j)

173 Last night there was a discussion on WWII and Pearl Harbor.

Rodrigo Borgia asked about an alternate history where Yamamoto's warnings were heeded.

In Challenges, one of Ben Bova's collection of short stories and essays, this was answered in the intriguing short story "Bushido".

This is a time-travel short story in which a embittered American-hating Japanese researcher in the future brought Yamamoto to the future. He was eventually shown all the footage of WWII. Including his death.

Yamamoto then asked to see the rest of the past to now. He saw a prostate Japan advance to the strong economy of the tales future.

He was sent back to change the past with all his new knowledge and win the Pacific War for Japan. The twist of the story is what he changed. A good story.

There are other good short stories in that collection, like how an alien art piece shows someone their soul, and other enjoyable tales. .

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 08, 2019 10:20 AM (u82oZ)

174 And Volvos.
Posted by: Linn Ridge

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Now Linn, be nice. I had a 1st Marine Division Asso. sticker on my brick.

Happy Sunday!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (Y4EXg)

175 Start by going to the tax collector and explaining the issue. I once had my property tax bill cut by 20% with a simple email to the assessor.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (Xiixu)

I tried, they at first said yeah we screwed up, then said no YOU screwed up.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (G546f)

176 We need to rescue Eris!


I'll do the mouth to mouth and the chest compressions.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (gd9RK)

177 Start by going to the tax collector and explaining the issue. I once had my property tax bill cut by 20% with a simple email to the assessor.


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where I live, you need to hire an attorney to do that...otherwise won't get anywhere...

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (zr5Kq)

178 The Churchill series in the picture is as motley as my own! Have read them twice and it occurs to me that they are getting due for another read!

An American patriot's favorite part will undoubtably be when the US declares war on Japan, which causes Germany to declare war on America. Churchill practically gets on his knees in prayer, exulting words to the effect that, God thou hast delivered mine enemies into my hands!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (2nsuS)

179 Kissinger was a player. Jill St John for the win.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 08, 2019 10:22 AM (2DOZq)

180 I've seen a couple "Any Functioning Adult 2020" stickers.

Which is code for any Democrat.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (YXQrO)


Like Joe "My Word As A Brain Parasite Host" Biden, for example.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:22 AM (t+qrx)

181 I assume you mean "prostrate Japan"

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:22 AM (U7voe)

182

You all do know that President Trump wasn't really offering to purchase Greenland, right?

He allowed that rumor to leak and made his subsequent comments to force the Shits in Greenland to say their country "is not for sale." The president did this because Greenland was playing footsie with Russia.

Our president is much wiser than we'll ever know.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (YXQrO)

183 GLUGGAVEĐUR - So means from November through March

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (ZCEU2)

184 where I live, you need to hire an attorney to do that...otherwise won't get anywhere...
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (zr5Kq)

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Funny how that works, when most politicians who write laws are ex-lawyers, huh?

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (Xiixu)

185
where I live, you need to hire an attorney to do that...otherwise won't get anywhere...
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (zr5Kq)

that's what I'm afraid of - not sure how to get one that won't cost more than the cost of the tax penalty which is around $2k

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)

186 "BTW, I'm a fan of Kissinger and have a copy of his Diplomacy on my bookshelf. Very good overview of power politics." Lloyd

btw, Lloyd was responding to me, talking about Kissinger getting fooled by the Chinese, who never had any intent on anything but sneaking into our system. (but that book is good background I need).

I've actually used a Kissinger based article for years, about the need for strategic use of trade policy. And yes, the idea of keeping China-Russia at odds was part of the plan. (but I still think Kissinger was "tricked", and set us on a bad path, despite "good intent").


Here is the quote from deeper in the 2014 article I like to use, making my (constant) argument in rebuke to the "Free Trade" mantra of the globalists (who are still fighting for China and their slave profits).

"the Business Roundtable, a forum that represented CEOs, stated in 1981 that 'the long term viability of the corporation depends upon its responsibility to the society of which it is a part' (Yang, p.1). That view changed in the 1980s spurred on by Milton Friedman and others affiliated with the 'Chicago school' of free market economists who argued the 'only social responsibility of business is to increase its profits'. ..."


From "China and the Concept of Leverage" ... the first two words of the article are "Henry Kissinger" ... and the article gives a good brief history of China's rise and fall and rise ...


https://tinyurl.com/ybfe7s4c

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (Cus5s)

187 Funny how that works, when most politicians who write laws are ex-lawyers, huh?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (Xiixu)

they are all in cahoots !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:24 AM (zr5Kq)

188 that's what I'm afraid of - not sure how to get one that won't cost more than the cost of the tax penalty which is around $2k
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)

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I don't think it's physically possible to hire an attorney to do anything in America for under $2K.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:24 AM (Xiixu)

189 Kissinger - REALPOLITIK.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:25 AM (zr5Kq)

190 Happy Sunday!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:21 AM (Y4EXg)

Happy Sunday, TonyPete!!

I have a coexist sticker on my brick...made up of gun logos. I figured it fit.

OT: I've decided to get serious about finding my adopted brother. If it crosses your mind at Mass, please put in a good word that the search is successful.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:25 AM (ECrgQ)

191 Best and easiest read autobiography

My Grandfather's Son by Clarence Thomas

Best biography

American Caesar by William Manchester

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 08, 2019 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

192 I really could get into one of the new Churchill biography books, bigger the better.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 10:26 AM (ZCEU2)

193 that's what I'm afraid of - not sure how to get one that won't cost more than the cost of the tax penalty which is around $2k
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)

Find out what they charge. I my area there are many who specialize in that sort of thing. They charge a percentage of what they save you on taxes. So if your tax bill is 2k, and they save you 2k and even if you have to give them half, it is kind of worth it. Still 1k savings.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:28 AM (zr5Kq)

194 OT: I've decided to get serious about finding my adopted brother. If it crosses your mind at Mass, please put in a good word that the search is successful.
Posted by: Linn Ridge

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Oh how wonderful! Good for you. Of course, consider it done.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:28 AM (Y4EXg)

195 Good morning, Tonypete.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 08, 2019 10:28 AM (u82oZ)

196 Left side - Hate Has No Home Here

Right side - F*** Trump

Posted by: Enlightened progressive bumper sticker at December 08, 2019 10:28 AM (fF2Sv)

197 *in my area , etc.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:28 AM (zr5Kq)

198 Not my most recent read, but wanted to recommend Schrodinger's Gat by Robert Kroese especially perhaps to Hans Schantz. It has hidden physics, a bit of philosophy, and a massive conspiracy to cover up the truth and exterminate the experimenters.

Posted by: .87c at December 08, 2019 10:28 AM (TDP3i)

199 111 ... "Recommend you subscribe to something like BookBub. Their daily selections are a bit more (dare I say it) diverse."

OM, Thanks for the recommendation. It's worth the couple of minutes to check the Kindle deals because of the once in a blue moon gem that gets listed. I got the three volumes of CS Lewis letters that way. Bookbub is now in the Favorites file.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 10:29 AM (7EjX1)

200 120
Police Use Innocent Bystanders As Human Meat Shields

Good video and good comments below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldX-zaFxdbI
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (YXQrO)

#OnlyBlueLivesMatter

Fuck those cops. And pretty much everything else.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (NWiLs)

201 that's what I'm afraid of - not sure how to get one that won't cost more than the cost of the tax penalty which is around $2k
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)

Sometimes just a letter from a lawyer will get them to stop playing the game. Maybe one of the horde could help?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (ECrgQ)

202 For an amount of $2K, I'd just pay it. Best case scenario, you're going to save a few hundred after legal fees. But is that worth the time/effort/hassle? Sometimes life sucks and you just have to accept it and move on

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (Xiixu)

203 I think one of the reasons people like the medieval mysteries (that are realistic) is the same reason they like Jane Austen or the Amish romances. The strict rules everyone has to follow create conflict and tension.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (AwPyG)

204

Schrodinger's Gat?

As in Gatling Gun?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:31 AM (YXQrO)

205 I have to say, one reason I've been reading a lot of classic Science Fiction rather than new stuff is that I can be sure I won't bump into some irrelevant Current Year political screed.

One does run into the past versions of that -- you could fill a volume with all the irrelevant jabs at Nixon -- but at least that now has the charm of historical distance.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 10:31 AM (urZJh)

206 I own that 6 volume set of Churchill's history of WWII. Churchill's nonfiction books are very good.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at December 08, 2019 10:31 AM (+qbBa)

207 Sometimes just a letter from a lawyer will get them to stop playing the game. Maybe one of the horde could help?
Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (ECrgQ)


I see no way in which this could possibly go wrong.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:32 AM (t+qrx)

208 I really could get into one of the new Churchill biography books, bigger the better.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 10:26 AM (ZCEU2)

I believe there are entire sites that deal with Churchill books. You could probably write a book about people commenting on Churchill biographies. That is a good thing mind you. I wish more read about him. I know I need to read more and welcome any pick others think are worthy.

I have already read Manchester and some obscure family portraits.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:32 AM (n13/j)

209 I don't even know if it's a tax issue per se
we mailed a check
they mailed a letter 2 weks later saying you're late, pay up
I called and asked didn't yoy get my check? Could you look for it?
Two days later they mailed back the check, unprocessed, saying here's the check you asked for back
and btw please pay the (now higher) bill

I called and they said, yeah dunno why, then they called back and said according to thge taped phone call, I told them to send it back

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (G546f)

210
btw, anyone else notice that Adam Shiff acts like he's an FBI guy? Kinda like he fancies himself a J Edgar Hoover type?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (YXQrO)

211 Thinking I should get one of those HHNHH signs and put a addition under We Love President Trump

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (ZCEU2)

212

Sometimes just a letter from a lawyer will get them to stop playing the game. Maybe one of the horde could help?
Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (ECrgQ)

I see no way in which this could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:32 AM (t+qrx)

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Dear County Assessor, slap hot iron to it !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (zr5Kq)

213 I'm halfway through the dog of the south, by charles portis who wrote true grit. Good and surprisingly humorous

Posted by: randallm at December 08, 2019 10:35 AM (wzDcR)

214 A 2 week delay led to a $2000 difference in taxes?

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:35 AM (Xiixu)

215 VMom, first you have to know what happened and the basis for the decision.
Then ask, "who do I speak to to resolve or dispute this decision"
Then ask, "what do I need to provide to show that this decision is not correct"
Then ask, "what is the procedure" and "can I get this in writing?"

Then find out your period allowed by statute to challenge this decision and make sure you are following up any mailing or fax with a call to make sure it was received and was routed to the right person.

Then find out who has oversight on this type of tax and the tax office. A manager may not be so interested in any special handling of an issue until an elected official calls to ask what is going on.

Also, be calm, be factual and avoid loaded language. The person on the other end of the phone may or may not be competent, but like you they would rather be doing something else and if they can get you taken care of they can go back to doing it -- if at all possible make your solution the easy path, and not the rejection of your appeal the easy path.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 10:35 AM (1glZx)

216 I think one of the reasons people like the medieval mysteries (that are realistic) is the same reason they like Jane Austen or the Amish romances. The strict rules everyone has to follow create conflict and tension.
Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (AwPyG)




Kind of like here.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 10:36 AM (HALdu)

217 Two days later they mailed back the check, unprocessed, saying here's the check you asked for back
and btw please pay the (now higher) bill

I called and they said, yeah dunno why, then they called back and said according to thge taped phone call, I told them to send it back
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book!

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I take it you've already rejected the idea of hanging one of them in the lobby of the govt building?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:37 AM (Y4EXg)

218 Thinking I should get one of those HHNHH signs and put a addition under We Love President Trump

I prefer the HHNHH looking signs, that is, it keeps the format, font and rainbow colors against the black background.

Only that the text is written in arabic

And it replaces the nonsense platitudes like "Science is Real" and "No Person Is Illegal" with the Arabic equivalent of their most violent, racist and hate-filled statements.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 10:37 AM (lD3vL)

219 There was no way to know to whom I was reacting but she did. know. She started screaming and gesturing until traffic moved on. Posted by: Quint

"If you pass a Bulgarian in the street, beat him. He will know why."--an old Russian joke, you know, like "17 Intelligence Agencies all agree!".

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 08, 2019 10:37 AM (Ndje9)

220 Kindltot, thanks! that's helpful

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:38 AM (G546f)

221 Also a good lesson also about not sending checks. Do it electronically where there is a record of the transaction.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:38 AM (Xiixu)

222 I wished my aunt a happy birthday yesterday. She always said she was born on "Pearl Harbor Day" She is not kidding, she was born 7 December 1941. Great lady by the way.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:38 AM (n13/j)

223 said according to thge taped phone call, I told them to send it back
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (G546f)


Oh yeah. Get a lawyer to get a copy of that "tape".

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:38 AM (t+qrx)

224 I don't even know if it's a tax issue per se
we mailed a check
they mailed a letter 2 weks later saying you're late, pay up
I called and asked didn't yoy get my check? Could you look for it?
Two days later they mailed back the check, unprocessed, saying here's the check you asked for back


and btw please pay the (now higher) bill

I called and they said, yeah dunno why, then they called back and said according to thge taped phone call, I told them to send it back
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (G546f)


oh, i see. they screwed up and are now charging you late fees. tax assessor's office - is there a physical location ? may be go there ? bring your stuff and (dated) envelope in which they sent your check. In my area there is major bank with multiple branches that process tax payments. Always a paper trail of when, what was paid. Highly recommend if that is an option for you

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:39 AM (zr5Kq)

225 btw, anyone else notice that Adam Shiff acts like he's an FBI guy? Kinda like he fancies himself a J Edgar Hoover type?

I think everyone in Washington knows that Schiff is a transvestite.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 10:40 AM (lD3vL)

226 214 A 2 week delay led to a $2000 difference in taxes?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:35 AM (Xiixu)

if you pay by end of 3rdq it's face value
after that before end of yr it's plus 2k
after end of year you are delinquent

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:40 AM (G546f)

227 Also a good lesson also about not sending checks. Do it electronically where there is a record of the transaction.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP

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I don't know why but my old bank specifically asked that you NOT pay taxes electronically. Perhaps for the reason you mentioned!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:40 AM (Y4EXg)

228 if you pay by end of 3rdq it's face value
after that before end of yr it's plus 2k
after end of year you are delinquent
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:40 AM (G546f)

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Ouch, that's a pretty stiff late penalty.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:40 AM (Xiixu)

229

Incidentally, it was -1 this morning.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:41 AM (YXQrO)

230 I see no way in which this could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:32 AM (t+qrx)

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Dear County Assessor, slap hot iron to it !
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (zr5Kq)
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Yeah, like that! Bet that would get a response.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:41 AM (ECrgQ)

231
Tuesday will be almost 60.

Climate change is real.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:42 AM (YXQrO)

232 I think everyone in Washington knows that Schiff is a transvestite.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 10:40 AM (lD3vL)

According to his Wikipedia page, he's also a vegan. As if I needed another reason to dislike him.

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:42 AM (U7voe)

233 172 A few years ago at a Costco gas station I saw a douche bag with the bumper sticker: "Tea Parties Are For Little Girls."

I seriously contemplated hurting him.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:18 AM (YXQrO)


Yeah, well, look what happened. They booed and hissed and ridiculed the Tea Party and look what they got instead.

Donald Trump. That's *President* Donald Trump.

You're welcome, bitches.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:42 AM (1Hdxn)

234 230 I see no way in which this could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:32 AM (t+qrx)

Surprise !

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 10:42 AM (fF2Sv)

235 192 ... "I really could get into one of the new Churchill biography books, bigger the better."

Skip, Check out the latest, "Churchill: Walking with Destiny". I loved it and it is about 1,150 pages long.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 10:43 AM (7EjX1)

236 Kind of like here.
Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 10:36 AM (HALdu)

Wait. We have rules?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:43 AM (ECrgQ)

237 I made some progress in A People's Tragedy to the point that the White Army has been wiped out of their last stronghold in the Crimea. They never really stood a chance because they ultimate were for returning to the past which nobody wanted.

Now that they were gone, the Reds started getting some of the wayward republics in the fold, ironically using people like Brusilov from the tsarsist army coming out of retirement and appealing to Rooski nationalism. Plus Poland tried to make some incursions which didn't work out so well, but then they tried to invade Poland and the locals said fuck that shit and sent them packing. Ukraine had ten different regimes from 1917-20, in case you think upheaval there is strictly a contemporary phenomenon. Figes has a disagreement with Daniel Pipes as to if the Reds had captured Warsaw if they'd have kept going to Berlin. Figes said they wouldn't have because Lenin wrote that invading Poland was done to make a defensive buffer but you can't trust a fucking thing that nutjob ever put on paper.

There are some stats of how many bureaucrats there were for each productive worker. Needless to say it's a derp state dream.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 10:44 AM (y7DUB)

238
oh, i see. they screwed up and are now charging you late fees. tax assessor's office - is there a physical location ? may be go there ? bring your stuff and (dated) envelope in which they sent your check. In my area there is major bank with multiple branches that process tax payments. Always a paper trail of when, what was paid. Highly recommend if that is an option for you
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:39 AM (zr5Kq)

the office is almost 300 miles away

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:44 AM (G546f)

239

btw, I recently bought a book off ebay. A non-fiction work about Energy.

Following Oil by Thomas Petrie.

Haven't read it yet.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:45 AM (YXQrO)

240 I had oatmeal this morning, and based on my
experiences with oatmeal, the Allied stockpile for D-Day is nothing
compared to what's coming.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 10:19 AM (arJlL)
A lot of people hate oatmeal. My parents hated it because their parents could not cook and the stuff just got harder and harder as it set on the stove. My mom gave us the instant stuff in winter and we liked it. Sometimes I would sneak in Nestles morsels and whipped cream. It grows a body good.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:45 AM (n13/j)

241 if its a local-local tax (not state, but county or municipal) I think the best route is to write your local representative.
They love this kind of thing, and you'll never have another problem

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:45 AM (AwPyG)

242 Just send a check using your bank's online service. It's still a physical check that is sent. But there is an electronic record of it.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:46 AM (Xiixu)

243 216 I think one of the reasons people like the medieval mysteries (that are realistic) is the same reason they like Jane Austen or the Amish romances. The strict rules everyone has to follow create conflict and tension.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:30 AM (AwPyG)
Kind of like here.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 10:36 AM (HALdu)


Exactly. How can morons feel funny in their pants if they're not wearing any?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:46 AM (1Hdxn)

244 the office is almost 300 miles away
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:44 AM (G546f)

Would you drive 300 miles to keep two grand?

Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:46 AM (U7voe)

245
Do you all buy your books new?

I buy shit like that used off ebay.
Same with DVDs.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:47 AM (YXQrO)

246 artemis - local rep as in to the Pennsylvania house of reps?

not the one in DC?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:47 AM (G546f)

247 Figes has a disagreement with Daniel Pipes as to if the Reds had captured Warsaw if they'd have kept going to Berlin. Figes said they wouldn't have because Lenin wrote that invading Poland was done to make a defensive buffer but you can't trust a fucking thing that nutjob ever put on paper.

There are some stats of how many bureaucrats there were for each productive worker. Needless to say it's a derp state dream.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 10:44 AM (y7DUB)


Reds capturing Warsaw ? What ? They could hardly keep what they had together after the Revolution.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:48 AM (zr5Kq)

248 Yes--the more local the better. Although I suppose it wouldn't hurt to write everyone with any jurisdiction.
Bureaucrats aren't brave.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:49 AM (AwPyG)

249 Would you drive 300 miles to keep two grand?
Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:46 AM (U7voe)

___

600 miles, return trip. That's a an entire day on the road, plus gas, plus wear on the car. And for an at best 50/50 chance that anything comes of it.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:50 AM (Xiixu)

250 230 I see no way in which this could possibly go wrong.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 10:32 AM (t+qrx)

===

Dear County Assessor, slap hot iron to it !
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:33 AM (zr5Kq)
---
Yeah, like that! Bet that would get a response.
Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:41 AM (ECrgQ)

They'll take it as a threat and send a SWAT team to your house at 3:00AM to shoot your dog and take your property.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 10:50 AM (NWiLs)

251 I've seen a couple "Any Functioning Adult 2020" stickers.

Which is code for any Democrat.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:16 AM (YXQrO)


Father Hate told me that bumper stickers make a car look like trash. That and his anti tattoo admonishments had more staying power than his professional wrestling disdain.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 10:51 AM (y7DUB)

252 thanks artemis gonna call my.local rep tomorrow
she's a wine mom dem.but who knows

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:51 AM (G546f)

253 And since it's a govt office, can't be done on the weekend, so that 600 mile drive will be on a weekday, ie needing a vacation day from work.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:51 AM (Xiixu)

254 ❘❘❘❙❙❚♠ Hello.

Those PANTS (and accessories) - a walking optical illusion!

Sam the assistant tailor: Boss, we just got three times as much of this fabric as we ordered, and the factory won't take it back.

Boss Pinchpenny: *shrug* I know what to do with it...

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 08, 2019 10:51 AM (Lsu/B)

255 I am no expert on Churchill biographies or Washington biographies But as for Washington, I adamantly recommend Flexner's four volume or one volume work. I can also adamantly tell you to avoid His Excellency by the Joseph Ellis. Anyone can look this guy up and see about him. The guy rubs me the wrong way but my commentary is about the book. His Excellency is a hit piece. It saddens me that so many think it is a good bio of our greatest president.

Flexner wrote in the 60's so if anything he was going against the lefty grain. What he offered was an unbiased, historical account that has not been bettered imo.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:51 AM (n13/j)

256 Vmom, I can't think of a single reason for a tax agency to send a check back. I also can't think of any government that would send an uncashed check back on a verbal request, without a written request.

You might start with a manager about what the process is for returning uncashed checks, and if they get nervous ask them about the procedure for waiving penalties


Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 10:52 AM (1glZx)

257 I do think Ellis's book, Founding Brothers was pretty good. I am trying to be fair here as I am no Ellis fan.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:53 AM (n13/j)

258 That and his anti tattoo admonishments had more staying power than his professional wrestling disdain.
Posted by: Captain Hate

---

One of my kids asked me once why I was against pro wrestling because it was fake but very much for pro boxing where two poor black guys were beating the shit out of each other for reals.

I had to ponder that one I did.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:53 AM (Y4EXg)

259 Kyle Bass is a big name in finance that mostly mocks Trump, but does see the problems of China, and says some big money in private equity will have nothing to do with China in their investments. (He sees China with big problems, and has a good debate with Bannon on the subject.)

Other big names are still gung ho on China ... and they seem to accept communism as just another social structure, a country that is like a big family with a central leader. They turn a blind eye to the crimes and threats ... Profit is still their bottom line, those are the vile globalists, imo. I don't know what Kissinger was or is ... there seems to be an arm of the DeepState that is "globalist", but wants to run the world from their Wall Street perch, using our SuperPower status to protect their profits. (and tools like Biden and can make their millions while the oligarchs rake in the billions, but Liberty for the People are incidental)


This is an Epoch Times interview with a "China expert" who explains why he thinks Kissinger/Nixon were "played" (cued to that part, YouTube link). I brought up the Congress of Vienna thing, just quoting from the video, and it's addressed at the starting point in the link) . imo China has to fall again, then maybe they can rise in a better format. The China expert in the video says many like him thought they could never return to China, but now think maybe they could (after the regime falls)


https://tinyurl.com/wlcv92b

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 10:53 AM (Cus5s)

260 They'll take it as a threat and send a SWAT team to your house at 3:00AM to shoot your dog and take your property.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 10:50 AM (NWiLs)

Well, then, how about copying the letters from that lawyer in the ONT? His "negotiating tactics" might make vmom feel better.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:54 AM (ECrgQ)

261 Whatever you do, don't do it by phone. It needs to be written communication. Because if it ever does get to court, telling a judge, so and so at the county office said such and such won't be worth much.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at December 08, 2019 10:54 AM (Xiixu)

262 OM!

whose ugliness is excelled only by

-->whose ugliness is exceeded only by

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 10:54 AM (oGFm1)

263 Do you all buy your books new?



I buy shit like that used off ebay.

Same with DVDs.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 08, 2019 10:47 AM (YXQrO)

you should check out your local library. They often have books sales going on and they also sell dvds for a buck or two. A lot of "pros' go through those sales and buy the place up to resale on ebay.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:55 AM (n13/j)

264 i don't think they are a govt office - they process taxes but their site is a .com

they must be biggish
probably connected nepostically faik

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:56 AM (G546f)

265 @261
Very good advice. In addition, if it appears that you are creating a written record of events, that alone will make a bureaucrat very nervous.
Always make a written record.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:56 AM (AwPyG)

266 Make an appointment with your County Commissioner. Bring docs.

Next, a letter to the editor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 08, 2019 10:57 AM (u82oZ)

267
you should check out your local library. They
often have books sales going on and they also sell dvds for a buck or
two. A lot of "pros' go through those sales and buy the place up to
resale on ebay.


Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 10:55 AM (n13/j)
===========
https://booksalefinder.com/index.html

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 10:57 AM (IttZ7)

268 My approach is to keep moving up until I reach the common sense level. Lately, that has not been as effective.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 08, 2019 10:58 AM (u82oZ)

269 Well, then, how about copying the letters from that lawyer in the ONT? His "negotiating tactics" might make vmom feel better.
Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 10:54 AM (ECrgQ)

That would be cathartic. Not likely to be effective, but definitely cathartic.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 10:58 AM (NWiLs)

270 I blame myself for ever calling them in the first place
lesson
never call

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:58 AM (G546f)

271 @263
Bookbub.com, recommended by OM, will send you an email if any of your favorite authors is offereing a book for free-or 99 cents.
Free to sign up.

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 10:58 AM (AwPyG)

272 Next, a letter to the editor.




um , no.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:58 AM (zr5Kq)

273 the Congress of Vienna, which pacified Europe for more than one hundred years.

-
Although I agree that the Congress of Vienna was a great success, to say it pacified Europe for one hundred years is a great exaggeration (like Pax Augustus and the reign of the five good emperors). Prussia fought a series of wars unifying Germany, Italy did the same but less successfully, there were wars in the Balkans first driving out the Ottomans then fighting amongst themselves, Russia fought Japan then crushed a revolution and Queen Victoria fought a series of little, but brutal wars. It is more accurate to say that a general, suicidal, bench-clearing war was prevented. I fear that original sin has doomed us to an eternity of wars and rumors of war.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 10:59 AM (+y/Ru)

274 getting with a local rep, as artemis suggested is a very good idea.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:59 AM (zr5Kq)

275 The last call I did as for transcript of said call

I am thinking of faxing a follow up - good or bad idea?

It would just be - in relation to our call, what is the status of getting a transcript
or should I ask something else
or not fax at all

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 11:01 AM (G546f)

276 Andrew Roberts has been on Dennis Prager's show often, he also has a book on Napoleon I would read in a heartbeat. Books like those I want in hard copy not e-book.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 11:01 AM (ZCEU2)

277 I'm listening to an Audible mystery/ghost story set in Victorian England called The Darkwater Bride.
A young Scottish woman and a Metropolitan police detective try to solve the murder or suicide of a respectable Scottish banker in a disreputable part of London.
The belief you can never fully know anyone is one of the repeated themes of the book.
It has me wondering how true that is.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 08, 2019 11:02 AM (Uu+Jp)

278 One of my kids asked me once why I was against pro wrestling because it was fake but very much for pro boxing where two poor black guys were beating the shit out of each other for reals.

I had to ponder that one I did.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 08, 2019 10:53 AM (Y4EXg)


A real problem for wrestling is the high rates of suicide and premature deaths. McMahon pays a lot of money to deflect attention from that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 11:02 AM (y7DUB)

279 maybe I'll wait until I can talk to the local rep's office

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 11:02 AM (G546f)

280 @275
Email for the win! cc the person's supervisor, and the local rep.
Be polite, just the facts

Posted by: artemis at December 08, 2019 11:03 AM (AwPyG)

281 The last call I did as for transcript of said call

I am thinking of faxing a follow up - good or bad idea?

It would just be - in relation to our call, what is the status of getting a transcript
or should I ask something else
or not fax at all
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 11:01 AM (G546f)


getting with a rep and asking for a transcript and/or faxing are not mutually exclusive. do everything. won't hurt, don't know which will work.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:03 AM (zr5Kq)

282 Eventually it comes down to the pants.
I don't see me having any room in my closet for those.

Been reading a series of kindle books on post-apocalyptic America. Nothing I'd recommend. Why do the authors get so preachy?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 08, 2019 11:03 AM (axyOa)

283 Congress of Vienna only wished it would last 100 years

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)

284 275 The last call I did as for transcript of said call

I am thinking of faxing a follow up - good or bad idea?

It would just be - in relation to our call, what is the status of getting a transcript
or should I ask something else
or not fax at all
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 11:01 AM (G546f)

You should be able to make a public records request for the alleged recording and all related materials. Check the law in your state. You can probably find some state-specific guidance online for that too.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:04 AM (NWiLs)

285 I love wandering around used bookstores even though they inevitably make me sneeze.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 08, 2019 11:06 AM (Uu+Jp)

286 Tax assessor re assessed my property for substantially less, returned my prior over payment, then issued a new invoice with a late fee higher than the amount saved.

I almost got arrested.

Posted by: Jeb! at December 08, 2019 11:06 AM (cAnuB)

287 I read a good amount of history books and others with maps and illustrations. The Landmark series is an example. Does anyone else keep a magnifying glass at hand for such matters? Mine is a decent one, about 10X and with a ring of 12 LEDs in the ring around the lens. It really helps.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 11:06 AM (7EjX1)

288 Capt Hate - while many of those boxers have a hard life some get rewarded, probably about the same rate as NFL players.
Steroids are the cause of those suicide rates is my guess.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 11:07 AM (ZCEU2)

289 A real problem for wrestling is the high rates of suicide and premature deaths. McMahon pays a lot of money to deflect attention from that.
Posted by: Captain Hate

PED and cocaine

Posted by: Jeb! at December 08, 2019 11:08 AM (cAnuB)

290 Interesting read, and it appears the calumny heaped on Richard was, in a lot of ways, not as deserved as perceived and was done more to justify the reign of the Tudors.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at December 08, 2019 09:29 AM (WEBkv)

Blake, have you read Josephine Tey's 'Daughter of Time"?
Excellent mystery novel on the topic.

Posted by: sal at December 08, 2019 11:08 AM (bo8pf)

291 Tax assessor re assessed my property for substantially less, returned my prior over payment, then issued a new invoice with a late fee higher than the amount saved.

I almost got arrested.
Posted by: Jeb! at December 08, 2019 11:06 AM (cAnuB)


ouch !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:08 AM (zr5Kq)

292 Although I agree that the Congress of Vienna was a great success,


If only we could replace our Congress with the Congress of Vienna.

(i know, I know)


Good morning, Book Elves!

Time for y'all to kick back and relax with a tot of -

Laphroaig Santa Cask.


As for me...work, work, work.

Now for a quick glance at this here thread.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 11:09 AM (kauXV)

293 vmom-

It would be helpful if you know a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy whose cousin has a friend who knows how to get things done. IYKWIM.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 11:10 AM (m45I2)

294 Has anyone read At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neill? It's the book group's next choice. I know that it has a homo element which isn't necessarily a deal breaker (I've read Paul Bowles, for example) and it's supposed to be very well written albeit a bit difficult, which isn't usually a problem.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 11:11 AM (y7DUB)

295 i don't think they are a govt office - they process taxes but their site is a .com



they must be biggish

probably connected nepostically faik
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:56 AM (G546f)


*tears hair* *kicks things*

In which case your issue is with the third party handling which STILL should not be returning checks on a verbal request. But the county may not be willing to cut you slack on a check they didn't get.

(for crissakes, your EX could be messing with you, right? Or the lady down the street who complains about your cats in her garden!)

Make sure with the county, see if it is an official place or one of those third party "sure we will handle that for you while we hold your check and earn interest on it - ooh a couple of days don't matter much"

But then ask the county for a penalty waiver for situation beyond your control - especially if it is a sanctioned company.

And consider making future payments via Automated Clearing House transaction, or mail it certified to the county. Or pay the merchant fee on a credit card payment.

I hate those third party payers. Running payments on billpay with the bank is bad enough.

Oh, and consider a small claims suit if you can afford the hassle and you can't get it resolved or waived.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 11:12 AM (1glZx)

296 293 vmom-

It would be helpful if you know a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy whose cousin has a friend who knows how to get things done. IYKWIM.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 11:10 AM (m45I2)


Oh, you mean someone who paints houses.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 08, 2019 11:14 AM (di1hb)

297 Tax assessor re assessed my property for substantially less, returned my prior over payment, then issued a new invoice with a late fee higher than the amount saved.

I almost got arrested.
Posted by: Jeb! at December 08, 2019 11:06 AM (cAnuB)


Please crap.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 11:14 AM (tjClK)

298 115 Last night's post about snowball throwing banned in Wausau, Wis -

why ?
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 10:04 AM (zr5Kq

They say it's because nobody should throw things at another person. They also included arrows, sticks, rocks. Snowballs = arrows.

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 11:15 AM (B8eTP)

299 Oh, and consider a small claims suit if you can afford the hassle and you can't get it resolved or waived.

==

um, no. if it does not get resolved, pay the penalty and move on. filing a suit will cost a heck of a lot more.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:15 AM (zr5Kq)

300 In the book room of our little local thrift store, where I volunteer, I found "The Merriment of Christmas" Vol. 3 of the Life Book of Christmas (1963).

Been looking for this since 1989- it has a wonderful spice cookie recipe I was never able to replicate, even with the internet.

For only a dollar- it's a Christmas miracle!

Posted by: sal at December 08, 2019 11:15 AM (bo8pf)

301 Oh, you mean someone who paints houses.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 08, 2019 11:14 AM (di1hb)

One afternoon, two coats!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 11:16 AM (ECrgQ)

302 Welp, reckon I'd better go throw something together for the Gun Thread. Later taters!

Posted by: Weasel at December 08, 2019 11:17 AM (MVjcR)

303 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at December 08, 2019 11:17 AM (1CjJc)

304 Snowballs = arrows.
Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 11:15 AM (B8eTP)

That adds a whole new dimension to the long bow vs crossbow debate.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 08, 2019 11:18 AM (ECrgQ)

305 OK, Morons, trivia time. What pop/folk/rock song is about the Congress of Vienna?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:19 AM (+y/Ru)

306 Waiting for Hans Schantz to finish his series on the hidden secret in physics. My theory is he painted himself into a corner and now he has to come up with a REAL hidden secret. Also needs to let the young protagonist get laid! Jesus, Hans, give the kid a break!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 08, 2019 11:20 AM (2nsuS)

307 Dr. Mrs. T. got back from the gym and made brunch. All out of orange juice so no mimosas, but otherwise delicious.

Now I'm just seeing how long I can put off my own fitness ordeal.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 11:21 AM (urZJh)

308 I'm an idiot! I meant is about the Treaty of Versailles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:21 AM (+y/Ru)

309 305
OK, Morons, trivia time. What pop/folk/rock song is about the Congress of Vienna?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:19 AM (+y/Ru)


(I can't get No) Satisfaction?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 11:21 AM (IttZ7)

310 I love King Books but haven't been there in years. The last time I went, I took a visiting friend and she found a privately-published book of advice from a father to his divinty-school-bound son. Published 1773, with the funky S everywhere.I think she paid $5 for it.

I haven't been reading anything but work-related stuff.

In pants-related news: I couldn't go to church because my clothes are in the wash. So I'm wearing a sweater and socks until the dryer is done. But I still wouldn't wear those featured pants!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 08, 2019 11:22 AM (/+bwe)

311 Paul Johnson's book _The Birth of the Modern_ has a whole chapter about the Congress of Vienna. Apparently Metternich slept with pretty much every other participant's wife or mistress during the conference. I think maybe they agreed to his proposals just to have an excuse to go home.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 11:23 AM (urZJh)

312
198 Not my most recent read, but wanted to recommend Schrodinger's Gat by Robert Kroese especially perhaps to Hans Schantz. It has hidden physics, a bit of philosophy, and a massive conspiracy to cover up the truth and exterminate the experimenters.


I love Robert Kroese's work, most recently his Iron Dragon Series. I'll definitely check out Schrodinger's Gat. Thanks, .87 c

I've been reading books I picked up at last week's big indie book sale. J. M. Anjewierden's The Long Black is a fun space opera.

I also picked up Christopher Nutall's latest, The Long Range War, Book 5 of Learning Experience. The earlier books in the series were excellent, telling a near future store of alien contact and interstellar warfare.

Catch you all next week!

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at December 08, 2019 11:24 AM (FXjhj)

313 In the book room of our little local thrift store, where I volunteer, I found "The Merriment of Christmas" Vol. 3 of the Life Book of Christmas (1963).Been looking for this since 1989- it has a wonderful spice cookie recipe I was never able to replicate, even with the internet.

For only a dollar- it's a Christmas miracle!
Posted by: sal at December 08, 2019 11:15 AM (bo8pf)

I love when things like that hapoen!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 08, 2019 11:25 AM (/+bwe)

314 Has anyone read At Swim, Two Boys by Jamie O'Neill? It's the book group's next choice. I know that it has a homo element which isn't necessarily a deal breaker (I've read Paul Bowles, for example) and it's supposed to be very well written albeit a bit difficult, which isn't usually a problem.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 11:11 AM (y7DUB)


Never heard of it.

"At Swim Two Birds" by Flann O'Brien on the other hand is a stone-cold classic and hilarious to boot.

Read it instead if you haven't yet.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 11:25 AM (9X624)

315 um, no. if it does not get resolved, pay the penalty and move on. filing a suit will cost a heck of a lot more.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:15 AM (zr5Kq)


You can't sue the government, but you can sue a third party payment handler. Some of them will payout without attempting to challenge, since they budget for legal activities, and to run an attorney down to the court costs more than writing a check.

Just make sure the filing fee and the hassle of filing is not greater than the penalty you hope to get back. If it is not worth it, then yes, just move on.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 11:25 AM (1glZx)

316 And the big secret of Vienna's success was that they were all sick of war and just wanted a settlement which would last. High ideals got shelved. Russia got big concessions because they had a big army, and Britain got most of what they wanted because everybody else would go bankrupt without their subsidies.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 11:26 AM (urZJh)

317 Progress. Oktoberfest 1928 v. Oktoberfest 2015.

https://bit.ly/2sb9jEU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)

318
I also was disappointed in Cadfael because of the modern attitudes. That
gets me about a lot of historical fiction, really. What I WANT is to
get a real sense of what another time and place was like, not just watch
a bunch of Current Year dipshits cosplaying.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 09:37 AM (urZJh)


I hate that too. There was a spoof of Robin Hood made in 1984 with George Segal. Morgan Fairchild playing Maid Marian is told she is going to married off and she goes into a rant about being a liberated woman making her own decisions. Tom Baker (Dr. Who) playing Guy of Gisbourne leans into her and says, "My dear, this is the 12th Century. Go find a white dress."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2019 11:26 AM (MQMWM)

319 See the post World War II settlement for an interesting parallel. The US, Russia, and the British were more-or-less satisfied, and it held up for a good half century.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 11:28 AM (urZJh)

320 OK, Morons, trivia time. What pop/folk/rock song is about the Congress of Vienna?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:19 AM (+y/Ru)






"We Built this City on Sausage Rolls"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iEB8bfP7wE

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 11:28 AM (9X624)

321 It is beyond disturbing how well I remember "Bored of the Rings," the copy of which I bought in high school is sitting on a shelf in my bedroom, untouched for decades except for the occasional dusting.

I also want to second the favorable comments from another denizen who recommended the Audible version of LOTR read by Rob Inglis. I've listened to "The Hobbit" and have started "The Fellowship of the Ring." The reading is delightful, enough variance in voice to make who's speaking clear, and not so much that it's obnoxious. And it's serving its major purpose which is to keep me calm in the afternoon commute.

And my bedtime book is the latest from Kurt Schlichter - it's a fun ride.

Posted by: Tonestaple at December 08, 2019 11:28 AM (WLMkj)

322 292 ... naturalfake, Where did you find that Laphroaig Santa Cask stuff? I can't even find a reference to it. And I do like the Laphroaig Quarter Cask.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 11:29 AM (7EjX1)

323 GLUGGAVEDUR

That's the worst spell of weather we've had in years.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 11:30 AM (m45I2)

324 Progress. Oktoberfest 1928 v. Oktoberfest 2015.



https://bit.ly/2sb9jEU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)

So you are saying something improved over the last century? Anything that has improved over the last twenty years stands out to me as a rare win.

Also, Octoberfest ends about the time October rolls around. This year it ended on October the fourth.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:31 AM (n13/j)

325 Laphroaig ...is that the one that tastes ..earthy?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)

326 Never heard of it.

"At Swim Two Birds" by Flann O'Brien on the other hand is a stone-cold classic and hilarious to boot.

Read it instead if you haven't yet.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 11:25 AM (9X624)


Already read it at the advice of someone here, maybe you. Thoroughly enjoyed it. At some point I'll read The Third Policeman.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

327 thanks for all the help guys

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 11:33 AM (G546f)

328 Something that's been nagging at me lately: what to do with my library if I have to move to a smaller place or (eventually) die?

I hate the thought of the collection of books I've spent so much time putting together being tossed out, dumped in a "FREE" bin at the library, or left to rot in boxes in a storage unit somewhere.

Any ideas? What's a good home for a 3000-volume library?

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 11:33 AM (urZJh)

329 OK, Morons, trivia time. What pop/folk/rock song is about the Congress of Vienna?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Something by Sabaton?

Posted by: Jeb! at December 08, 2019 11:34 AM (cAnuB)

330
Laphroaig ...is that the one that tastes ..earthy?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)

you hear a lot of band aide, as in iodine.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:34 AM (n13/j)

331 good luck, vmom.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:35 AM (zr5Kq)

332 Love Sabaton. Head-banging and history lessons. What could be better?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:35 AM (NWiLs)

333 323 GLUGGAVEDUR

That's the worst spell of weather we've had in years.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 08, 2019 11:30 AM (m45I2)

someone carping about the crappie weather ?

Posted by: REDACTED at December 08, 2019 11:35 AM (rpxSz)

334 305 OK, Morons, trivia time. What pop/folk/rock song is about the Congress of Vienna?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:19 AM (+y/Ru)


I would think it would have to be something by Al Stewart.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 11:36 AM (MRoRq)

335 @29,
I love Icelandic wool. It's dual coated with a fine undercoat and coarser outer. It's very warm and lightweight but not soft like merino. I have a half a fleece from Iceland in my fiber stash

I guess this is where we mention Independent People by Haldor Laxness. Odd but memorable book.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 08, 2019 11:36 AM (Lqy/e)

336 330
Laphroaig ...is that the one that tastes ..earthy?

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)

you hear a lot of band aide, as in iodine.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:34 AM (n13/j)

Talisker's the same way. Some people really love it. I find it revolting.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:36 AM (NWiLs)

337 that's what I'm afraid of - not sure how to get one that won't cost more than the cost of the tax penalty which is around $2k
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 10:23 AM (G546f)

I went through a tax appeal in Fairfax County, VA, showed comparable properties, all the necessary paperwork. No surprise. Appeal denied. Rubber stamp.

Posted by: FloridaMan at December 08, 2019 11:37 AM (B8eTP)

338 Damn Jeb! sock

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2019 11:37 AM (cAnuB)

339 I went through a tax appeal in Fairfax County, VA, showed comparable properties

Ha, my appeal was with Fairfax Co, I won and still got screwed

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2019 11:38 AM (cAnuB)

340 And I thought the Trump economy was so great.

MEDIA BLOODBATH: 7,700 JOBS LOST IN '19...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:38 AM (+y/Ru)

341 Those Churchill WWII books may have my fingerprints on them. I bought a few of the from Kings several years ago but they did not have all of them and I had had to fill in the gaps by borrowing from the library. A few years later I gave them back to King's. As an aside, my wife and I found a complete set in an antique store in New Smyrna FL a couple of years ago and they hold a proud place on my bookshelf.

Posted by: Clean Willie at December 08, 2019 11:40 AM (TwCsL)

342 I would think it would have to be something by Al Stewart.

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Yes, I messed up. League of Notions is about the Treaty of Versailles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:40 AM (+y/Ru)

343 MEDIA BLOODBATH: 7,700 JOBS LOST IN '19...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:38 AM (+y/Ru)


Not yet tired of the winning!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 11:40 AM (MRoRq)

344
Something by Sabaton?
Posted by: Jeb!


Another overpriced exercise bike.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 11:41 AM (aKsyK)

345 325 ... "Laphroaig ...is that the one that tastes ..earthy?"

It's an Islay single malt which means it will have a good amount of peat (some call it iodine) in the taste. But that isn't as strong as some others from the island, like Ardbeg. Some say the peat flavor is an acquired taste. Apparently I acquired it at birth.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 11:41 AM (7EjX1)

346 And I thought the Trump economy was so great.

MEDIA BLOODBATH: 7,700 JOBS LOST IN '19...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:38 AM (+y/Ru)


In every economy gangbang, a few attract syphilis and die off.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 11:41 AM (9gDA7)

347 And I thought the Trump economy was so great.

MEDIA BLOODBATH: 7,700 JOBS LOST IN '19...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Post of the Day

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2019 11:41 AM (cAnuB)

348 Trimegistus, my guess is start asking friends & family if they are interested in having any of your collections

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 11:42 AM (G546f)

349 Congress of Vienna (and Versailles) needs a makeover ... with Trump leading the way. (or Trump's deeper thinking advisors, but Trump's policy is what they hate).

Trump has pushed the ideas of solidarity with other nations states, that will all make their own nation great again, by way of mutual respect for each other's sovereignty. We should try to push our allies TOWARD "Westernization" and liberty for the individual, but still need strategic deals with non-Western countries. (while the DeepState/globalists would prefer constant chaos as they get the bailouts and own the world).


Much of the "EU" is run by globalist oligarchs ... so restructuring NATO to support the old West is critical, and may require the collapse of the EU (globalist un-elected banker/bureaucrat) structure, idk.


There must be some demarcation for the Western Nations imo, and an open rebuke to those (oligarchs like Soros, or stooges like Merkel/Macron) treating Western heritage as White Supremacy (or even as Nazism). The central focus of the oligarch/globalist/DeepState centers on destruction of the firm foundation of Christian ethical norms. That evil hydra has to be confronted ... it is being confronted.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 11:42 AM (Cus5s)

350 Yes, I messed up. League of Notions is about the Treaty of Versailles.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:40 AM (+y/Ru)


Thank you, that was the tune I was trying to think of, but somehow the Congress of Vienna didn't fit.

Stewart sounds like quite a history buff. Would like to see a photo of his library.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 11:42 AM (MRoRq)

351 you hear a lot of band aide, as in iodine.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:34 AM (n13/j)

Talisker's the same way. Some people really love it. I find it revolting.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:36 AM (NWiLs)


Yeah, probably an acquired taste.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:43 AM (zr5Kq)

352 Those Churchill WWII books

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Final Jeopardy the other night asked what world leader was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize twice and Literature Prize seven times winning once. I completely forgot about Churchill and felt so stupid.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:43 AM (+y/Ru)

353 Laphroaig ...is that the one that tastes ..earthy?



Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)



you hear a lot of band aide, as in iodine.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:34 AM (n13/j)



Talisker's the same way. Some people really love it. I find it revolting.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:36 AM (NWiLs)

I kind of like the peat I get from some blends. I want to go for more peat but not some monster that has nothing else. I have done the sherry bombs and they seem one dimensional I guess. I would like some more peat than Highland Park but not as much as the extreme Islays.

To me peat adds something but if it blows the thing out it is a waste of good whisky. One thing I am sure of at this point is really good Scotch is more expensive than really good Bourbon. I am sure there are exceptions but in general, this is true.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:43 AM (n13/j)

354 Clean Willie,

I have a complete set of Churchill works, Bible, the Black Book of Communism and a few other choice title in the living room shelf as a warning notice to any literate lefties

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2019 11:44 AM (cAnuB)

355 Some say the peat flavor is an acquired taste. Apparently I acquired it at birth.
Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 11:41 AM (7EjX1)

ha, yes. Laphroaig has the Royal Warrant. English taste....

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:44 AM (zr5Kq)

356 Funny how alcohol related websites now require you to disclose age...I put it 1/1/1946...it worked !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:46 AM (zr5Kq)

357 Any ideas? What's a good home for a 3000-volume library?

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 08, 2019 11:33 AM (urZJh)

========


I had wondered about that too. Maybe there are used bookstores that buy estates. A interwebz search revealed this site:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/toeacm7

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 11:46 AM (IttZ7)

358 BTW, if you are ever in London and want to while away an hour or two, or a day or two, I highly recommend stopping into Foyle's on Charing Cross Road. Massive. I understand it has moved out of the old premises which were more John King-like into more modern digs but I am sure it would still be a pleasant way to spend time.

Posted by: Clean Willie at December 08, 2019 11:46 AM (TwCsL)

359 Yeah, probably an acquired taste.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:43 AM (zr5Kq)

no doubt there. I can see how it happens though. When you get used to something you often search for more complexity. Even Johnnie Walker Black gives you some of that peat and if you like it, you will likely search for more in the end. What I want is a Scotch that gives you the malt, peat, and sherry. Something that stands out but is not overdone.

I think the peat heads are similar to the hop heads with IPA's. Hey, to each his own. But I have had my share of beer in my day and there are a lot of great varieties other than IPA's.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:48 AM (n13/j)

360 point is, how they heck do they know whether you are lying or not ? that whole disclosure requirement is silly, anyone can enter the site.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:48 AM (zr5Kq)

361 The Icelandic word concerning foul weather, good to look at but not so good to be in reminds me of two things. One, hustling a buck or two when I was a kid with a snow shovel. Two, watching the snow fall with an ample supply of booze and the crockpot going, and having cash for the next generation with a snow shovel. Reasons I moved south.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 08, 2019 11:48 AM (C1Lsn)

362
To me peat adds something but if it blows the thing out it is a waste of good whisky. One thing I am sure of at this point is really good Scotch is more expensive than really good Bourbon. I am sure there are exceptions but in general, this is true.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:43 AM (n13/j)

I think that's true. I don't have a particularly discriminating pallet but I think I can get a really good bourbon for say $60 but a good single malt scotch is much more than that.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 08, 2019 11:49 AM (Uu+Jp)

363 point is, how they heck do they know whether you are lying or not ? that whole disclosure requirement is silly, anyone can enter the site.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:48 AM (zr5Kq)


True, however, their liability is now absolved as you LIED to get into the site, so they're no longer responsible.

Don't think that would honestly hold up in a court of law these days, but that's my theory.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 11:49 AM (9gDA7)

364 Curse this laptop, I had a lengthy reply typed up, and it went poof!

Anyhoo, thanks for addressing my question, and I am going to check out that new site with the free versions. Even if it doesn't have lots of titles now, it's worth supporting a worthwhile effort in its infancy.

As for Kissinger, I never read Diplomacy, and gave my copy of it away before moving a few months ago.

When I bought it I think I admired him, but decided he's not someone whose views I really need to dig deeper into.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2019 11:50 AM (hku12)

365 Speaking of bookstores, "Shadow of the Wind" by Carlos Ruiz Zafon is one of my favorite books. It is set in a bookstore in Barcelona.


It's an amazing read.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at December 08, 2019 11:50 AM (PkVlr)

366 De gustibus non est disputandum and all that. But if I want iodine and seawater flavor I'll have some salted topical antiseptic, not Scotch.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:50 AM (NWiLs)

367
I think the peat heads are similar to the hop heads with IPA's. Hey, to each his own. But I have had my share of beer in my day and there are a lot of great varieties other than IPA's.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:48 AM (n13/j)

I like IPAs. Oddly enough I also like peaty scotch

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 08, 2019 11:50 AM (Uu+Jp)

368 Portland considers "mandatory rest spaces" for the homeless on private property 

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I'm sure that'll work out well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)

369 362
To me peat adds something but if it blows the thing out it is a waste of good whisky. One thing I am sure of at this point is really good Scotch is more expensive than really good Bourbon. I am sure there are exceptions but in general, this is true.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:43 AM (n13/j)

I think that's true. I don't have a particularly discriminating pallet but I think I can get a really good bourbon for say $60 but a good single malt scotch is much more than that.
Posted by: Northernlurker at December 08, 2019 11:49 AM (Uu+Jp)

You can get good Scotch for about the same price. The truly mind-blowing stuff, like Dalmore, is damned expensive.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

370 From yesterday:


Hey! This'll be of interest for all you Scotch-heads out there:


Laphroaig's got a Limited Edition blend for the Holiday's called -

Laphroaig Santa's Cask

And get this...the scotch is finished in barrels used to contain peppermint syrup!

Apparently, it's excellent. With ratings of 9.8-10 out of 10.

Some blurbs:

"...takes the rich and spicy, Christmas Pudding fruitiness of Laphroaig Lore and adds cool burst of peppermint that sent this reviewer over the moon.

You'll will have been a very good girl or boy, indeed, if you're toasting Christmas with Laphroaig's Santa's Cask."

"...who knew the intense peat flavors of Laphroaig would match so well with peppermint. This one has it all. It's like a bonfire at the North Pole with bacony, sweet, roasted elves, fruits, spice, and cooling blast of peppermint..."

"...Introducing your new favorite scotch, or at the very least, one of your all-time top five favorites..."

Anyway, there you go, scotch people.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 11:52 AM (9X624)

371 True, however, their liability is now absolved as you LIED to get into the site, so they're no longer responsible.

Don't think that would honestly hold up in a court of law these days, but that's my theory.
Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 11:49 AM (9gDA7)

yes, true.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:52 AM (zr5Kq)

372 BTW, if you are ever in London and want to while
away an hour or two, or a day or two, I highly recommend stopping into
Foyle's on Charing Cross Road. Massive. I understand it has moved out
of the old premises which were more John King-like into more modern digs
but I am sure it would still be a pleasant way to spend time.

Posted by: Clean Willie at December 08, 2019 11:46 AM (TwCsL)

Famous street for bookstores. I recall the movie 84 Charing Cross Road with Anthony Hopkins. That is what I like about London. There is a street for suits, for books, for the MFM, etc It is a cool way to identify areas of a city.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:52 AM (n13/j)

373 That's a baby Yoda? Thought it was a Mogwai.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 11:53 AM (/sgva)

374 Actually you can get a bottle of Dalmore 12 year for about 60 bucks. The longer aged ones are $100 or more.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 11:56 AM (NWiLs)

375 Portland considers "mandatory rest spaces" for the homeless on private property

-
I'm sure that'll work out well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:51 AM (+y/Ru)


This approach sounds vaguely familiar...

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:56 AM (zr5Kq)

376 Tri-

Spouse's big Texana collection is going to be auctioned off by the historical society- at least the volumes they want. Perhaps
an auction house?

A thought I found very helpful about past possessions is "That object gave joy to its owner in their life. It fulfilled it's purpose. You can let it go to bless someone else."
Takes a lot of stress out of dealing with your own or other's belongings.

Posted by: sal at December 08, 2019 11:57 AM (bo8pf)

377 One thing I like about that bookstore is that they appear to sell other little things as well. Book ends, art prints, decorating objects for shelves, IOW the little things that make a home library homey.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 11:57 AM (U7k5w)

378 353 ... "To me peat adds something but if it blows the thing out it is a waste of good whisky. One thing I am sure of at this point is really good Scotch is more expensive than really good Bourbon. I am sure there are exceptions but in general, this is true."

Quint, Laphroaig, at least the Quarter Cask version, has plenty of peat but not so much that it covers up the other flavors and some sweetness. Same with Lagavulin 16, plenty of peat but balanced.

For my taste, really good single malt scotch costs a lot more than bourbon or rye. There are some real gems among American whiskies: Wild Turkey 101, Old Forester Signature or rye, Four Roses Small Batch or Single barrel, and George Dickel 12 Tennessee sour mash. For the quality at their price they are all tremedous values. Scotch of that quality would cost at least twice as much.

BTW, if your local library has books about whisky or other spirits, it's usually worth checking them out. The author's opinions might not match yours but the photos of the libations are usually gorgeous.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 11:58 AM (7EjX1)

379 I think that's true. I don't have a particularly
discriminating pallet but I think I can get a really good bourbon for
say $60 but a good single malt scotch is much more than that.

Posted by: Northernlurker at December 08, 2019 11:49 AM (Uu+Jp)

I read once that half of the price of a scotch is taxes. They age good Scotch a long time particularly because of the cold weather there and the use of second hand barrels. You add to that that the government taxes distilleries based on stock on hand and not just sales, it ads up. I thought I figured this thing out but then found out that the Bourbon price is almost 50 percent taxes too.

Still, you can get some good $20-$30 Bourbons. Not so much with Scotch.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:59 AM (n13/j)

380 Dem. Lawmaker Charged With 500k Theft From Mental Illness Charity

A Pennsylvania state representative is accused of taking money from her own nonprofit and spending it on luxury expenses.

Democratic Rep. Movita Johnson-Harrell, who founded Motivations Education n Consultation Associates, allegedly diverted Medicaid and Social Security disability funds from the nonprofit and spent them on designer clothing, vacations, luxury car payments, real estate purchases, and other personal expenses, Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro announced in a press release on Wednesday.

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Apparently she takes a Biden-like approach to public service.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

381 Exactly. How can morons feel funny in their pants if they're not wearing any?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at December 08, 2019 10:46 AM (1Hdxn)




Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 11:59 AM (HALdu)

382 This one has it all. It's like a bonfire at the North Pole with bacony, sweet, roasted elves, fruits, spice, and cooling blast of peppermint..."


=


and who would not like bacony, sweet, roasted elves ???

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 11:59 AM (zr5Kq)

383 Glenmorangie 10 year gives you great bang for the buck. About $35 a bottle, really tasty highland single malt.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:00 PM (NWiLs)

384 Dem. Lawmaker Charged With 500k Theft From Mental Illness Charity

A Pennsylvania state representative is accused of taking money from her own nonprofit and spending it on luxury expenses.

Democratic Rep. Movita Johnson-Harrell, who founded Motivations Education n Consultation Associates, allegedly diverted Medicaid and Social Security disability funds from the nonprofit and spent them on designer clothing, vacations, luxury car payments, real estate purchases, and other personal expenses, Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro announced in a press release on Wednesday.

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Apparently she takes a Biden-like approach to public service.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 08, 2019 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)




So, she is something of a second rate, low-rent Avenatti. Kind of the poor man's grifter.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 12:01 PM (HALdu)

385 With the rise of Amazon used books, it's hard for any used book shop to stay in business. We had a large local one shut down as people would come to browse, then buy the books more cheaply on line.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:01 PM (U7k5w)

386 I've read the Fool's Guild series and highly recommend it. Some, but not all, of the books are takeoffs on Shakespeare, as noted. The author's attention to details of medieval history are a plus.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 08, 2019 12:01 PM (oW/8k)

387 Democrats especially think the pubic owes them under the table handouts

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 12:03 PM (ZCEU2)

388 Anyway, there you go, scotch people.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 08, 2019 11:52 AM (9X624)

I wasn't sure if you were being serious with the Santa Cask thing. I know they do a lot of cask versions. What is a a peppermint syrup barrel? I bet they did that themselves.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:04 PM (n13/j)

389 Still, you can get some good $20-$30 Bourbons. Not so much with Scotch.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 11:59 AM (n13/j)


You can get Glenlivet 12 yo for 29.99 in my area, especially now - holiday sales and all that...but then there are taxes upon taxes.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2019 12:04 PM (zr5Kq)

390 387 Democrats especially think the pubic owes them under the table handouts
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 12:03 PM (ZCEU2)

ISWYDT

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:04 PM (U7k5w)

391 [276] Skip................I read Andrew Roberts' book on Napoleon. It's excellent! I emailed him to tell him about a trivial error and he responded immediately to thank me. He's very nice. I had no idea he'd been on Dennis Prager.

Posted by: microcosme at December 08, 2019 12:06 PM (B+xWY)

392 I wasn't sure if you were being serious with the
Santa Cask thing. I know they do a lot of cask versions. What is a a
peppermint syrup barrel? I bet they did that themselves.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:04 PM (n13/j)


I think it is actually "sinterkask" where the barrel is actually for taking away all the naughty children.


Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 12:07 PM (1glZx)

393 Glenmorangie 10 year gives you great bang for the buck. About $35 a bottle, really tasty highland single malt.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:00 PM (NWiLs)

I had a gift set/sampler of their line. I really liked the Nectar D'or. That is as far from peated as you can get but I thought it stood out.

i am no Scotch guy for sure. But I have liked Balvenie. I had had the gift set from Johnnie Walker too recently. The Blue was nice but few would say it isn't overrated. I liked it. The one that stood out was the 18 year.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:07 PM (n13/j)

394 Peppermint Laphroaig sounds extra gross.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:08 PM (NWiLs)

395

" Glenmorangie 10 years gives you a great bang for a buck " a tad too young!! ...wait till she's 18 years.

.. then Peats yer Uncle..........

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 12:08 PM (5IHGB)

396 Portland considers "mandatory rest spaces" for the homeless on private property
-
I'm sure that'll work out well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


It should definitely be graded by income; richer people can support more homeless.

I'd say for every $200,000 you make, you have to allow one homeless guy to sleep in your house.

Posted by: mikeski at December 08, 2019 12:08 PM (P1f+c)

397 Anyway, I think I might read a few of those Agatha Christie books. To be able to say how the TV version changed the story and failed could come in useful at the snobby academic parties this season. Since I retired, I cannot volunteer to work and skip these things.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:09 PM (U7k5w)

398 I will wholeheartedly recommend the book series the wreckonize

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 08, 2019 12:11 PM (dKiJG)

399 Quint, Laphroaig, at least the Quarter Cask version,
has plenty of peat but not so much that it covers up the other flavors
and some sweetness. Same with Lagavulin 16, plenty of peat but balanced.



For my taste, really good single malt scotch costs a lot more than
bourbon or rye. There are some real gems among American whiskies: Wild
Turkey 101, Old Forester Signature or rye, Four Roses Small Batch or
Single barrel, and George Dickel 12 Tennessee sour mash. For the quality
at their price they are all tremedous values. Scotch of that quality
would cost at least twice as much.



BTW, if your local library has books about whisky or other spirits,
it's usually worth checking them out. The author's opinions might not
match yours but the photos of the libations are usually gorgeous.

Posted by: JTB at December 08, 2019 11:58 AM (7EjX1)

good stuff JTB. Those are some really good picks. I am now seeing the Wild Turkey 101 rye in stores and that one has been called out as a steal for a rye lover. I am a Dickel 12 fan too. It is amazing how few young people would even consider Dickel. Everyone knows it is better than JD and a buck or two less. Though recently the price difference is not as stark.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:14 PM (n13/j)

400 someone could collect ALL the (useful) Free Books and sell them on a thumb drives for $200.


I didn't try to do the math, but 512GB costs $30 ... and one copy of the Encyclopedia Britannica uses 286MB ... so basically four of them in one GB.


Or some enterprising conservative could put together a long list for an extensive library, and sell them via snail mail. I suppose they would always be available online, but they might be illegal hate speech if the tyrants ever gain more control. The firefighters have been busy already.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

401 According to his Wikipedia page, he's also a vegan. As if I needed another reason to dislike him.
Posted by: Vanya at December 08, 2019 10:42 AM (U7voe)

Well, thus the insanity.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:15 PM (/sgva)

402 The firefighters have been busy already.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 12:14 PM (Cus5s)
This is why it's nice to have actual books

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:15 PM (U7k5w)

403 I whole heartedly recommend the reckoners series
I just finished it and if he liked the boys this is much better a whole lot less Christian Bashing and more a message of Hope.

Dragon Republic The second book of the poppy wars, it's terrible I mean it is terrible I've just given up on me I don't even think I'm gonna finish the book.

I am going to try to book MISTBORN

And since I watch the movie the Highwayman I'm going to read the book about the guys life , Texas Ranger.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 08, 2019 12:16 PM (dKiJG)

404 My dad used to drink the SHIT out of George Dickel back in the day. The white label one, whichever that is.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:16 PM (9gDA7)

405 I am thinking about getting the Johnnie Walker Green. Anyone have an opinion on that one? Would I be better off with the laphroig quarter cask on a price/value spectrum?

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:16 PM (n13/j)

406 I am thinking about getting the Johnnie Walker Green. Anyone have an opinion on that one? Would I be better off with the laphroig quarter cask on a price/value spectrum?
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:16 PM (n13/j)



Walker is a blend, go with a single.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 12:18 PM (HALdu)

407 My dad used to drink the SHIT out of George Dickel back in the day. The white label one, whichever that is.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 12:16 PM (9gDA7)

that is the old no 12 i believe. It used to be aged 12 years I think but so many are making no age statement whiskies now because they are out of stock and well, they want to sell younger whiskey. one day we should have a whiskey/booze discussion. There is so much chicanery out there right now. The rum category has some stuff that is beyond absurd. They put numbers on the bottles that people assume are age statements but they are not. It is almost fraud.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 12:19 PM (n13/j)

408 Walker is a blend, go with a single.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 12:18 PM (HALdu)

Agreed. But their lower-priced blends are good drinking Scotches...it's just that Green is too expensive.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2019 12:20 PM (wYseH)

409
Re-reading Guard of Honor by James Gould Cozzens, which won the 1948 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction. A story of 48 hours at an AAF base in Florida, it looks at the hierarchy of command and the imperatives and compromises of duty.

A theme running through Cozzens's novels is that you're likely to get a raw deal but you have to pick yourself up and do what you must anyway. With an attitude like that, it's not surprising that his (excellent) novels are out of print.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (7rVsF)

410 Blended scotch is answer looking for a question. Just buy a single malt.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (IYcBz)

411 Agreed. But their lower-priced blends are good drinking Scotches...it's just that Green is too expensive.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 08, 2019 12:20 PM (wYseH)




What he said.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (HALdu)

412 Nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (Dhht7)

413 Can anyone recommend the best Patton biography? It will make a nice gift for a cousin, also retired, whose looking to learn more about some of our best military leaders.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (U7k5w)

414 Blended scotch is answer looking for a question. Just buy a single malt.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 08, 2019 12:21 PM (IYcBz)



And what he said.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (HALdu)

415 NOOD

Posted by: Max Power at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (QCc6B)

416 The main thing I read this past week was the AoS nostalgia thread on Friday.

I did flip through a few books while shopping Saturday. I was trying to find the Fools' Guild book mentioned in last Sunday's thread, but neither of our B&Ns had it.

How many of you folks can find a recent book mentioned in the Book Threads?

I never have found any of the Liturgical Mysteries books on shelves, either.

I'm glad to have online shopping -- that's how I got most of the Parker novels -- but I prefer to scan shelves.

Tulsa isn't a small city, but apparently it's not a big enough book market. How big does a city have to be to get eclectic selections?

Posted by: Weak Geek at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (XoQc4)

417 That Newman image is one I grabbed but haven't edited to show one of my books yet. Not sure which to have him reading, yet.

This week I read Rifleman Dodd and The Last Stand

Rifleman Dodd is by CS Forester, best known for the Horatio Hornblower series and African Queen. This is about the Napoleonic land wars, featuring a green-jacketed Rifleman in Wellsley's army. It is credited by Cornwall as being a major influence in his writing the Sharpe novels.

As much as I like Forester as an author (his Man in the Yellow Raft for example was extraordinary), this one didn't really work as well. Its filled with lots of great historical details, but is flat and not very engaging.

The Last Stand is two novellas by Mickey Spillane which Max Collins finished after his death. Unlike a lot of these "guys keep writing books" things, Collins was hand-picked by Spillane and given unfinished manuscripts to write and he does quite well.

The first story A Bullet for Satisfaction is pretty boilerplate Spillane stuff, if you like Mike Hammer stories, you'll enjoy this. Its not his best work, but it was pretty enjoyable. Its basic stuff; a tough cop finds corruption in his city.

The second story is The Last Stand and its quite good. The dialog is terrific, the setting is interesting, and the story is different than the usual you expect from Spillane. A 50 something pilot flying a WW2 restored trainer plane is forced down when the engine stops. He finds himself in the trackless desert of the (unidentified) Southwest of the USA, and his radio is vintage accurate for the time - its not reaching anyone.

But he runs into a local Indian who lost his horse and gets tangled up in some tribal politics, federal interference, and a criminal element.

Very enjoyable stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2019 12:23 PM (KZzsI)

418 Tulsa isn't a small city, but apparently it's not a big enough book market. How big does a city have to be to get eclectic selections?
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 08, 2019 12:22 PM (XoQc4)

The Princeton area doesn't have much in the way of used book stores any more. The closest good one is in Cream Ridge near some wineries

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 12:23 PM (U7k5w)

419 I read Schlichters latest COLLAPSE over Thanksgiving,

Literally over the day. It is a fast read. If you like Schlichter you will like this. Plenty of fan service for the fans.

And he's gotten better with his writing which is nice.

Posted by: blaster at December 08, 2019 12:24 PM (ZfRYq)

420 I really liked the Cadfael series but the sensibility really is too modern. In one novel, two young lovers get it on in the church and Cadfael basically says no place is too holy to house love. Pretty sure this is not an accurate reflection of the sentiment of the times on that subject.

Yeah Cadfael is a mix for me. They're an interesting read but the culture and characters feel too modern day in their attitudes and behavior, and further the language bothers me. Its not that I want them to speak middle English, that would be nearly unreadable; you have to make some concessions to language.

What I mean is that everyone speaks the same. Literate, illiterate, schooled, unschooled, poor, rich, French, English, Scots, Welsh, knights, peasants, lords and beggars. They all just sound like middle class English modern people who mention God more often. It bothers me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 08, 2019 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

421 306 Waiting for Hans Schantz to finish his series on the hidden secret in physics. My theory is he painted himself into a corner and now he has to come up with a REAL hidden secret. Also needs to let the young protagonist get laid! Jesus, Hans, give the kid a break!

Authors are in the business of torturing their characters. Not to spoil book 4, but Pete's problems are going to get way worse, before they get better.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at December 08, 2019 12:27 PM (FXjhj)

422 RE: John King books, I've been going there for twenty or so years. When I used to work downtown in theater, every now and then there would be a really long break between shows; the guys would go to the strip bar and the women would go to go the bookstore. It's kind of amazing; if you want a set of obscure chemistry books in German or the paperback adventures of the Partridge Family, this is the place for you.

It's also a hot weekend date place as well. AND is in the hood.

Posted by: shibumi, now with a library at December 08, 2019 12:28 PM (ZCiJZ)

423 I think of Kissinger as a globalist in a time before globalism had been corrupted by the Soros crowd.

Posted by: norrin radd at December 08, 2019 12:30 PM (Cx6f7)

424 btw any recent recs for non woke alt history or time travel stories?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at December 08, 2019 12:32 PM (G546f)

425 Also, I was not just reading Victorian naughty limericks at John King books. There were more recent ones were dated in the 1940s. I also might have traumatized young people that were standing nearby.

But really, the book was in the sexuality section. Should kids be there? I think not.

The book was entitled The Limerick; it's available used on Amazon. It's 528 pages and over 2lbs of naughtiness that we contemplated sending to one of the cobs.

Posted by: shibumi, now with a library at December 08, 2019 12:34 PM (ZCiJZ)

426 "This is why it's nice to have actual books" Posted by: CN

yes, I've bought probably 50 hardbacks over the years, just from this AoS comment section ... usually get the hardbound for $5 or so off Amazon. But the ease of transferring maybe 20,000 useful books into a few million homes for archive ... gives that collection/protection concept merit, with the digital censors so hard at work. keep 30 thumb drives in an EMP/water proof container the size of a deck of cards, for the chillens.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 08, 2019 12:49 PM (Cus5s)

427 I am reading westerns lately.
Finished, The Virginian. Liked very much.
In Progress, Riders of the Purple Sage. Also like so far.
On Deck, The Life of John Wesley Hardin.

Not westerns, i.e., romances.
The Jade Temptress by Jeannie Lin. Liked.
The Widow of Rose House by Diana Biller. Pretty Good.

Other not westerns.
Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury. Just started.

Posted by: MMcK at December 08, 2019 01:37 PM (xHxJf)

428 ''Paul Newman was very sexy in his prime.''

Was he ever! Those blue eyes...

Posted by: Tuna at December 08, 2019 01:54 PM (RueoN)

429 I guess we'll see tomorrow if there will be justice. Nothing in Horowitz' past suggests this, but maybe Barr (along with Rosenstein's departure) made him feel less protected.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 02:13 PM (U7k5w)

EMT 12/08/19

My last mouse was getting pretty flaky.

On black friday, I picked up a $5 mouse at WalMart.

I must say, I think I like it better than the $50 mouse it replaced.

How's it look to you all?

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 So far so good

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:01 AM (vd8XM)

2 Good morning Horde

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:02 AM (ZCEU2)

3 So far, so good !

G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 08, 2019 06:02 AM (JwHjN)

4 How's it look to you all?

You might need to let the waist our a bit though

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:02 AM (vd8XM)

5 Mornin', all.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:02 AM (Z/jzm)

6 Going to try a spoon of chocolate pudding in a cup of coffee
For science

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:03 AM (ZCEU2)

7 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, December 8, 2019. On this day in 1980 former Beatle John Lennon was murdered in front of The Dakota hotel in New York City. His killer pled guilty to second degree murder. He is still in jail.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

8 House communists say Trump can be impeached even though he has broken no laws.


https://tinyurl.com/svvmkvj

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

9 Nunes says Shift-for-brains falsified his phone records.


https://tinyurl.com/r3n7ecw

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

10 Last time I saw a mouse like that it had a trap on it.

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (fF2Sv)

11 Liberals thought they had it made in the shade because RBG was the judge who would rule on release of Trump's financial records. Now they feel cheated.


https://tinyurl.com/wynro83

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

12 On black friday, I picked up a $5 mouse at WalMart.

You went to Walmart on Black Friday ?

And LIVED !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (arJlL)

13 Ramirez


https://tinyurl.com/qmjc64t


And that's it for today. Nothing out there today except the MFM having orgasms over the House communists.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

14 http://docs.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/images/decwars.jpg
Dec 8, 1941

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:05 AM (ZCEU2)

15 Thanks, Vic!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:05 AM (Z/jzm)

16 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 08, 2019 06:06 AM (cknjq)

17 Hiya Vic !

Welcome back !

Ramirez was funny today.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 06:06 AM (arJlL)

18 And that's it for today. Nothing out there today except the MFM having orgasms over the House communists.
Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

So just another day ending in Y

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 06:06 AM (fF2Sv)

19 Mouse balls...nice.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:07 AM (cqNba)

20 Liberals thought they had it made in the shade because RBG was the judge who would rule on release of Trump's financial records. Now they feel cheated.


RBG must retire, or be impeached!!!

...Libs...

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

21 BTW, NYC makes it illegal to even own a pistol. That law works real good doesn't it?

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:07 AM (mpXpK)

22 Hopefully tomorrow the IG report comes out and rips the FBI a new one.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:08 AM (ZCEU2)

23 Thanks for the news Vic

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:08 AM (vd8XM)

24 22
Hopefully tomorrow the IG report comes out and rips the FBI a new one.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:08 AM (ZCEU2)

It was written by an Omamanite asshole and it has already been leaked. And Barr said it was a pack of lies and not WAS.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:10 AM (mpXpK)

25 Willowed


Morning Horde. 4am here. Glad to hear your dad is doing better Skip.

Made an omelette. Going to take my mom's rocking chair to my daughter's today. Bitter sweet.
Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:06


News is on. Anyone named mohhamed or anything similar needs deported. This shit is fkd up. This FL thing is messed up.

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:11 AM (O/X1S)

26 From the Babylon Bee

Joe Biden: 'I'm Just Like You Regular Folk, I Put My Pants On One Arm At A Time'

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:13 AM (vd8XM)

27 Hairy legs is still leading all the other pinkos by 12 points.

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 06:13 AM (fF2Sv)

28 >>Going to take my mom's rocking chair to my daughter's today. Bitter sweet.
Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:06

That's neat.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:16 AM (Z/jzm)

29 Speaking of mouse balls...


I see where Big Navy will not utter the name of the crime which shall not be named.



Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:16 AM (cqNba)

30 Gurgle has made up for the lack of recognition of the Pearl Harbor attack,
by celebrating the birthday of a French sculptor (sculptress?) that, had she not died, would be 155 years old today.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:17 AM (vd8XM)

31 WTF Joe ?

Translator needed.

https://youtu.be/vw_66tyFKbo

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 06:18 AM (fF2Sv)

32 31
Gurgle has made up for the lack of recognition of the Pearl Harbor attack,

by celebrating the birthday of a French sculptor (sculptress?) that, had she not died, would be 155 years old today.





Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:17 AM (vd8XM)


Who in the Hell still uses that shitty program?

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:18 AM (mpXpK)

33 Who in the Hell still uses that shitty program?

Apparently, NOT Vic !

LOL !!!

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 06:19 AM (arJlL)

34 How is hubby doing today, MLii?

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:19 AM (O/X1S)

35 I use Bing. And abandoned Google decades ago.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:21 AM (mpXpK)

36 Boker tov from the Lost coast morons.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2019 06:21 AM (EZebt)

37 I saw Carts on a Forklift open for RHCP's at Hammerjacks in '93.

Posted by: jsg at December 08, 2019 06:23 AM (fF2Sv)

38 I remember when S.E. Cupp had a brain.


https://bit.ly/353ucAu

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:24 AM (cqNba)

39 "I saw Carts on a Forklift open for RHCP's at Hammerjacks in '93."


A little bit of Baltimore history, right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:24 AM (cqNba)

40 He's ok, tired. They found an issue with his heart, he was in a-fib when they transported him, and they were able to slow his heart rate some. Weren't sure if it's from stress of seizure or something new. He never had that issue before. But now he has a consult with a cardiologist in his near future, and of course has to see the neuro guy, to possibly adjust the anti-seizure med.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:25 AM (Z/jzm)

41 4 How's it look to you all?

You might need to let the waist our a bit though
Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:02 AM (vd8XM)

nice

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 06:25 AM (ghFVE)

42
New pussy always good...............................but $5 is kinda Syphilebola territory...and WalMart parking lot??!!!

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 06:25 AM (5IHGB)

43 WTF Joe ?

Translator needed.

Posted by: jsg

Oh oh, I think it's time that Joe gets put down.
Sad really

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:26 AM (vd8XM)

44 Haven't used anything but DuckDuckGo for years.

And I block all googil Javascript too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 08, 2019 06:26 AM (JwHjN)

45 Now I have stove top coffee so it's very hot but the chocolate pudding melted straight away

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:27 AM (ZCEU2)

46 44 Oh oh, I think it's time that Joe gets put down.

Sad really

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:26 AM (vd8XM)


I predict he will flame out in SC. The only Democrats left in SC are blacks and they hate his ass. But it really doesn't matter. The 2020 Nomination will be decided in Chicago by the DNC.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:29 AM (mpXpK)

47 Now I have stove top coffee so it's very hot but the chocolate pudding melted straight away
Posted by: Skip

Maybe try Stove Top Stuffing, in your stove top coffee.
It sounds like they would be made for each other

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:29 AM (vd8XM)

48 "Now I have stove top coffee so it's very hot but the chocolate pudding melted straight away"

You're not doing this for ball-dipping', are you?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:29 AM (cqNba)

49 46 Now I have stove top coffee so it's very hot but the chocolate pudding melted straight away
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:27 AM (ZCEU2)

for science

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 06:30 AM (ghFVE)

50 >>Now I have stove top coffee so it's very hot but the chocolate pudding melted straight away
Posted by: Skip

I would think it would be similar to adding a spoonful of ice cream. Not that I'd know anything about that!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:30 AM (Z/jzm)

51 45 And I block all googil Javascript too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 08, 2019 06:26 AM (JwHjN)


I blocked Javascript decades ago after it gave me a virus.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:30 AM (mpXpK)

52 Did the last one get put in the wheel by the parrot?

Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2019 06:30 AM (7hcwx)

53 >>Did the last one get put in the wheel by the parrot?
Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2019 06:30 AM (7hcwx)

He gave it to the cat

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:31 AM (Z/jzm)

54 Mouse balls...nice.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:07

-------------

Speaking of mouse balls, my buddy at office has a trackball. I've used it when he's having software issues. I've concluded I'm trackball retarded.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 08, 2019 06:32 AM (Dhht7)

55 And Good Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 08, 2019 06:32 AM (Dhht7)

56 Yesterday's Championship games were lopsided. Well, the Big 5 Conferences were lopsided. The Sun Belt and AAC were pretty good games. One of my future golf trips will have to be out in Western NC sometime. Boone looks beautiful (Appalachian State).

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 08, 2019 06:32 AM (DhSOy)

57 I've concluded I'm trackball that trackballs are retarded.

*Suggested edit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:33 AM (cqNba)

58 https://tinyurl.com/wesz2pv


Humm, they have great breakfast. Will have to look into this a little more. Tipton is a shitty rep.

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:33 AM (O/X1S)

59 G'morning, all.

Sweet mouse, krak. It looks good on you.

I'm back from a lightning run to the piggy vet in Iowa. Wilbur had to stay there. He has osteomyelitis...a deep bone infection...in his jaw. The vet had him in surgery three hours after we got there. He's going to stay with Sis for follow up until the infection is cleared. They're culturing it to find an antibiotic that works. But it's going to be a while before I get him back.


The poor guy lost another tooth on the right side. There won't be much chewing on that side, save for bananas and tomatoes. But it's going to get better from here.

You guys did a fine job of keeping your hand on it while I was gone. I lurked a bit. Good show, Morons.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 06:33 AM (XxJt1)

60 Found a mouse in the bathtub this morning.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at December 08, 2019 06:34 AM (Vy7tf)

61 creeper

Glad to hear that there is a path to success with Wilbur.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:36 AM (cqNba)

62 Found a mouse in the bathtub this morning.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid

Was it taking a bath?

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:36 AM (vd8XM)

63 Saudis gtfo now. Every one of you is a threat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2019 06:37 AM (EZebt)

64 "Found a mouse in the bathtub this morning."

Did he have his little bath towel laid out for when he was done?

Tiny candle burning for atmosphere?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:37 AM (cqNba)

65 It works well, like a bit of chocolate cream, have a half hazelnut coffee to its chocolate hazelnut.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:38 AM (ZCEU2)

66 Did he have his little bath towel laid out for when he was done?

Tiny candle burning for atmosphere?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Sliced cucumbers over it's eyes?

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

67 https://tinyurl.com/s4hkwe3

A happy Christmas Story. These are my friends for over 25 yrs and former neighbors. This is so sweet. He only has two Harley's.

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:40 AM (O/X1S)

68 Thank you, VIA. He was worse than I realized and I'd have lost him if I hadn't made the run. I feel much better now. Hopefully, Wilbur does too.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 06:40 AM (XxJt1)

69 >> Did he have his little bath towel laid out for when he was done?

Tiny candle burning for atmosphere?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Sliced cucumbers over it's eyes?
Posted by: Bruce

Soothing music playing, and a tiny glass of wine?

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:41 AM (Z/jzm)

70 "Sliced cucumbers over it's eyes?"

A little tiny fur covered Terry Bradshaw?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:41 AM (cqNba)

71 67 Did he have his little bath towel laid out for when he was done?

Tiny candle burning for atmosphere?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Sliced cucumbers over it's eyes?
Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:38 AM (vd8XM

All of the above. Plus incense. Bastage still shat all over the tub. He is outside now. Ingrate.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at December 08, 2019 06:41 AM (Vy7tf)

72 A little tiny fur covered Terry Bradshaw?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

HA!

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:41 AM (vd8XM)

73 So let's have every single member of Congress, and their immediate and tangential family members release all of their "financial data" and tax returns. Bank account balances, any hidden offshore accounts. Also any and all prescriptions they may be taking - anti-psychotic medications and tranquilizers, etc.

Obviously, if they've done nothing wrong, they've got nothing to hide.

Right?

Why single out the president?

Posted by: Common Tater at December 08, 2019 06:43 AM (YOIA1)

74 Mouse in a bath with Computer? Crispy rodent bacon!!!

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 06:43 AM (5IHGB)

75 " Hopefully, Wilbur does too."

Back when Little VIA was...well....little, he had two of the whistling little funnsters.

They grow on you.

Prayers up for Wilbur's full recovery.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:43 AM (cqNba)

76 The trick of course is leave 6 inches of water in the tub so Mickey can swim around, until he's tired out anyway. Happen here once in the kitchen sink.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:45 AM (ZCEU2)

77 "Obviously, if they've done nothing wrong, they've got nothing to hide.

Right? "

No need to go the full Monty.

Just require each member to sign a statement, saying that they have never had Congressional or tax payer provided funds used to make payment to any individual in a sexual harassment/assault or rape accession.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:47 AM (cqNba)

78 All of the above. Plus incense. Bastage still shat all over the tub. He is outside now. Ingrate.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid

We finally gave in last year and called an exterminator for the mice.
I would start my trap line each August and catch them, but they seemed to be getting into more areas of the house.
I was amazed at all of the openings around the outside of my house that the little vermin could and would use to get in.
Exterminator sealed up what he could. We kept an eye on the traps he set. About a month later I had them come out for a followup, as I would find them in some traps in the attic. Guy took another look, and found a smallish hole in the mortar that he had missed before. Sealed that and , knock on wood, so far nothing this year.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:47 AM (vd8XM)

79 Something is off here. One Moron is evicting a rodent and another is coughing up $550 to save a rodent.

Because...people. I guess.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 06:48 AM (XxJt1)

80 Something is off here. One Moron is evicting a rodent and another is coughing up $550 to save a rodent.

Because...people. I guess.
Posted by: creeper

Like our southern invaders, It depends on whether you invite them or not.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:49 AM (vd8XM)

81 Something is off here. One Moron is evicting a rodent and another is coughing up $550 to save a rodent.

"To each, his own," said the old lady as she kissed her cow.

Posted by: Adriane the MTA Critic ... at December 08, 2019 06:50 AM (LPnfS)

82 LOL, Bruce. Einstein was right. It's all relative.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 06:51 AM (XxJt1)

83 Mailman delivers garbage to my home. Pay the city to haul it away. Hm. Quite a racket they got goin'.

Rake leaves, pay city to haul it away. (Burning leaves ist Verboten, ja) Buy mulch, rinse lather, repeat.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 08, 2019 06:51 AM (YOIA1)

84 Rake leaves, pay city to haul it away. (Burning leaves ist Verboten, ja) Buy mulch, rinse lather, repeat.
Posted by: Common Tater

Same with recycling

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:53 AM (vd8XM)

85 Years ago my daughter came home from school to an empty house, save for the cats and one very dead mouse. She called me in hysterics that her cat killed a mouse, apparently after having a lot of fun knocking it around. "There's blood everywhere!" She says she was scarred for life having to clean it up.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 06:54 AM (Z/jzm)

86 "Same with recycling"

We do 'single stream here'


Comes in the front door in a single stream of bags.

Goes out the back door in a single stream of bags to the trash cans.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:55 AM (cqNba)

87 I really ought to get setting traps, about this time every year the field mice start wanting to move in, this lasts until early spring. Every one in over 20 years looks exactly the same grey with white bellies.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:55 AM (ZCEU2)

88 So is anyone making book on whether Dems vote to impeach? I don't think it's a sure thing at all. Probably, but sanity may prevail in the swing States.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 06:55 AM (XxJt1)

89
Accidentally watching The Young Turks (who are these two OLD assholes?) and they put up a bar graph with the US leading the world, by a long shot. One of 'em says we lead the world in CO2 emissions. Effing chart is per capita, and I'd bet the scale was tweaked.
I need coffee.

Posted by: Gooshy at December 08, 2019 06:55 AM (IptG4)

90 I've concluded I'm trackball retarded.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 08, 2019 06:32 AM (Dhht7)


Depends on the trackball. Some are ... weird. Others are pretty simple once you figure it out.

Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2019 06:56 AM (7hcwx)

91 Years ago, I first used live traps for the little vermin because wife didn't want me to kill the little fuzzy wuzzy beady eyed crap and piss machines.
Take the mice for a ride, and turn them loose.

Then one day a mouse ran across my wife's foot while she was in the kitchen.
After that, I was ordered to show no mercy.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:56 AM (vd8XM)

92 "Every one in over 20 years looks exactly the same grey with white bellies."

Not a lick of diversity in that group?

Any of them seem to be at least gay?

Or a different religion?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:57 AM (cqNba)

93 Our two cats when younger ( only old Cinnamon is still here) would terrorize mice to death with hardly any blood spilled

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:57 AM (ZCEU2)

94 Bathtub was the only place said mouse figured was safe from our 4 cats.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at December 08, 2019 06:58 AM (Vy7tf)

95 On black friday, I picked up a $5 mouse at WalMart.

I live in an old house which sometimes has mice. I would have given you one for free.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2019 06:59 AM (WI7YS)

96 They need to drag it out until there are no Senators running for President, because they will not be happy getting pulled off the campaign trail for a trial that will go no where.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:59 AM (ZCEU2)

97 Anne Coulter blasts 3 DIABLOs who she says will vote to impeach Trump.


https://tinyurl.com/r4elfv6

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:59 AM (mpXpK)

98 Like our southern invaders, It depends on whether you invite them or not.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:49 AM (vd8XM)


Or vampires.

Posted by: GWB at December 08, 2019 07:01 AM (7hcwx)

99 'On black friday, I picked up a $5 mouse at WalMart. '


What you saved on the mouse job, you're just gonna spend on the medical bills to clear up the infection.

Should have went with the toaster.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:01 AM (cqNba)

100 I have been living in my house for 40 years and never had a mouse indoors. My old outside cat used to catch one every now and then and put it on my backporch.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 07:02 AM (mpXpK)

101
We had the two grandkids here overnight while our son and spouse attended an "ugly holiday sweater" party at her brother's abode just outside B'more.
Grandson and I "camped out" on the living room floor overnight. At the moment he is under a licking assault by our dog and giggling. "She is super cool."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 07:02 AM (pNxlR)

102 Last year had a chipmunk chew through the screen on our enclosed back porch. Kid #3 was keeping the bag of bird seed there. We repaired the screen, put the seed in a container that couldn't easily open. Next morning, open the door from the kitchen to the porch, chipmunk chewed through the screen again! Kept that window closed afyer that and all summer we would see him sitting outside, longingly looking into the porch. Was kinda cute, but drove the cats crazy!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 07:03 AM (Z/jzm)

103 I usually during the summer have a live and let live with mice I could catch outside, finding them in a hide away like my aluminum pile.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 07:03 AM (ZCEU2)

104 Our cats just used mice as play toys, until their life ran out

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 07:04 AM (ZCEU2)

105 The clever mice use tiny laser pointers.

Posted by: Miklos, I mean really small at December 08, 2019 07:05 AM (QzkSJ)

106 If they are outside I'm good. Once they come in the house though, no mercy.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 07:05 AM (Z/jzm)

107
93 "Every one in over 20 years looks exactly the same grey with white bellies."

Not a lick of diversity in that group?

Any of them seem to be at least gay?

Or a different religion?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:57 AM (cqNba)


Were any of your mice "transitioning" and consequently bitching constantly that none of the other mice wanted to copulate with them?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 07:06 AM (pNxlR)

108 Morning!

Dog wanted out.. she's already back asleep. too damn early!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 08, 2019 07:06 AM (438dO)

109 "If they are outside I'm good. Once they come in the house though, no mercy."

No borders...
No Walls..
No mouse traps at all..

Posted by: Open Borders Mouse Movement at December 08, 2019 07:07 AM (cqNba)

110
What happened to the mouse that you retired? Had it dropped its teeny tiny little balls? Were you able to find them afterward?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 07:09 AM (pNxlR)

111 Same here, didn't have a single mouse for 40 years. We got two mice one time because a garage door was open. I think they simply walked in.

These guys kept running past me when I was dropping bon mots on the net. This bothered me greatly. I put up a bunch of traps along the route they took as they passed by. I got one with a trap and all was well it seemed.

I really hated the idea that some mouse/rat could come in my house and bedroom. The second time I was at my computer and when I saw it whirl by I went into beast mode. I had a golf club nearby and no way was that thing getting out of my bedroom.

I haven't seen a mouse since.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:09 AM (n13/j)

112 Hay, Horde...can someone tell me if Donna (with ampersands) got the job?

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 07:10 AM (XxJt1)

113 We get rats coming under the fence from the neighbors breeding area under her deck.

The snap traps get them, and I toss the bodies back over the fence onto her deck.

Her rats.
Wouldn't want to get accuse of stealing them.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:12 AM (cqNba)

114 "Hay, Horde...can someone tell me if Donna (with ampersands) got the job?"



Sadly, I don't know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:13 AM (cqNba)

115 *chuckles @VIA*

Such a fine, upstanding citizen you are, returning her lost property.

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 07:15 AM (XxJt1)

116 Just require each member to sign a statement, saying that they have never had Congressional or tax payer provided funds used to make payment to any individual in a sexual harassment/assault or rape accession.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 06:47 AM (cqNba)


After all, doesn't the seriousness of the mere charge remove any Constitutional protections for a politician or an appointee?

Oh, wait I forgot that Constitutional protection only exists for Communist sympathizer politicians. Sad!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:15 AM (BiNEL)

117 Mornin yall. I remember when you could buy replacement balls for mice. I was I could send a box of them to the GOP.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:15 AM (Tnijr)

118 Krak..


If you're still here.


Did you ever try to take the baseplate off the bottom of your expensive old mouse.
And see if gunk had accumulated on the rollers which follow the movement of the ball?

I used to have to do that back in the day.

Then they came out with optical mice.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:15 AM (cqNba)

119 wish not was

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:16 AM (Tnijr)

120 i can hear two owls talking to each other on back porch. hope they find a rat or two...

Posted by: loneranger at December 08, 2019 07:17 AM (SXEGt)

121 "returning her lost property."

That's me...
A real giver.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:17 AM (cqNba)

122 Mornin yall. I remember when you could buy replacement balls for mice. I was I could send a box of them to the GOP.
Posted by: freaked

You're in luck. Amazons got them

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:18 AM (vd8XM)

123 Poor Greta



Now maybe she can return to school.


https://bit.ly/36ieAJY

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (cqNba)

124 thanks, krak

Posted by: m at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (ghFVE)

125 Mornin yall. I remember when you could buy replacement balls for mice. I was I could send a box of them to the GOP.
Posted by: freaked



Why go to the trouble of castrating them to begin with?

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (HALdu)

126 Mornin yall. I remember when you could buy replacement balls for mice. I was I could send a box of them to the GOP.
Posted by: freaked



Why go to the trouble of castrating them to begin with?

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (HALdu)

127 Her rats.
Wouldn't want to get accuse of stealing them.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

I do the same with next door neighbors dog crap.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:20 AM (vd8XM)

128 When I was a young barbarian I used to live in an old old farmhouse and kept a spring loaded BB pistol by my chair to take out mice running along the baseboard in the living room.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:20 AM (Tnijr)

129 My mouse has no ball, it is sans ball. . My keyboard has no wire You don't think about it until the batter finally dies. I lost my keyboard the other day and that was fine. Back to a Louis L'Amour Western. I was offline over a AAA battery and it was not that big of a deal.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:20 AM (n13/j)

130 " Amazons got them"

Was this in the Adult Sexual Health section?


Cause that section has some really wild stuff in it.

Probably even little tiny mouse ball gags,

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:21 AM (cqNba)

131 Now maybe she can return to school.


https://bit.ly/36ieAJY
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Learn to code?

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:21 AM (vd8XM)

132 Poor Greta
Now maybe she can return to school.
https://bit.ly/36ieAJY
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (cqNba)


Why she hasn't learned anything of use so far?

Well besides the grift, that is.

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:22 AM (BiNEL)

133 >> When I was a young barbarian I used to live in an old old farmhouse and kept a spring loaded BB pistol by my chair to take out mice running along the baseboard in the living room.
Posted by: freaked

Huh. That may explain the holes in the plaster and baseboards in one of the rooms in our house when we bought it!

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 07:22 AM (Z/jzm)

134 Mouse balls are an excellent appetizer.

Posted by: cats everywhere at December 08, 2019 07:22 AM (XxJt1)

135 "Why go to the trouble of castrating them to begin with? "

Horrible running wheel accidents. It happens more than you would think.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (Tnijr)

136 I do the same with next door neighbors dog crap.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:20 AM (vd8XM)


I do the same thing with my dog's crap, except I do it very late at night!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (BiNEL)

137 Now maybe she can return to school.

https://bit.ly/36ieAJY
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Can you imagine? Something that you feel strongly about for all of 6 months, that you do nothing about by leading by example, hasn't be "fixed" to your satisfaction?

Time to hop on a plane and go to another conference.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (vd8XM)

138 We can't all code. Someone should learn to be a plumber. Plumbers rarely get laid off.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (n13/j)

139 Poor Greta
Now maybe she can return to school.
https://bit.ly/36ieAJY
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (cqNba)

Why she hasn't learned anything of use so far?

Well besides the grift, that is.
Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH

What a hateful little girl.

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 07:24 AM (O/X1S)

140 I do the same thing with my dog's crap, except I do it very late at night!
Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar

I do the same with you know who's soiled...um...underthings.

...Huma...

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:25 AM (vd8XM)

141 I throw all the dog's crap over the fence too. It's a vacant lot, but I'm building a hedgerow.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:25 AM (Tnijr)

142 "Mouse balls are an excellent appetizer."


Try my balls?

Posted by: Pete Schweddy at December 08, 2019 07:25 AM (cqNba)

143 Greta wants to speak to the manager, dammit!

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:25 AM (vd8XM)

144 "Horrible running wheel accidents."

LOL!

Posted by: creeper at December 08, 2019 07:25 AM (XxJt1)

145 We can't all code. Someone should learn to be a plumber. Plumbers rarely get laid off.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (n13/j)


I wish we had some honest plumbers in the Deep State!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:26 AM (BiNEL)

146 We can't all code. Someone should learn to be a plumber. Plumbers rarely get laid off.



Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (n13/j)



I wish we had some honest plumbers in the Deep State!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:26 AM (BiNEL)

we did have plumbers. I think they were about half honest.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:27 AM (n13/j)

147 How come lab mice are all white?

Are they superior?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:27 AM (cqNba)

148 Plumbers rarely get laid off.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:23 AM (n13/j)


Plumbers and HVAC people don't get replaced with H1B visa Indian and Chinese "visitors"!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:28 AM (BiNEL)

149 My mouse has no ball, it is sans ball. . My keyboard has no wire
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:20 AM (n13/j)


I gave my love a chicken.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 07:28 AM (t+qrx)

150 I would bet Swedish public schools are like here Leftist Seminaries teaching only the Gaia religion. So going back to school would only further her religious experience.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 07:28 AM (ZCEU2)

151 we did have plumbers. I think they were about half honest.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:27 AM (n13/j)


Not so sure about that, but I am sure a lot of them were half-assed!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:29 AM (BiNEL)

152 Lovely moment yesterday as Trump embraced the blind Israeli band at the Israel-American gathering.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:29 AM (H8QX8)

153 "How come lab mice are all white?
Are they superior?"

Well according to Douglas Adams, yes.

"These creatures you call mice, you see, they are not quite as they appear. They are merely the protrusion into our dimension of vastly hyperintelligent pandimensional beings."

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:29 AM (Tnijr)

154 Good morning Glories!
The Countdown to Christmas is 2&1/2 weeks.
I'm taking Hubs to Home Depot this afternoon for some gift ideas.

Posted by: ALH at December 08, 2019 07:31 AM (D59ia)

155 I would bet Swedish public schools are like here Leftist Seminaries teaching only the Gaia religion. So going back to school would only further her religious experience.
Posted by: Skip

Then she could bitch at them, and they would all say

"I know, right?"

Everyones happy then.
Like when the wife is complaining. She doesn't want you to fix the problem, just to listen to it.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:31 AM (vd8XM)

156 I wonder how man foreign born muslims are FBI agents? I know the were bitching about feelings after Trump was elected, but why exactly do we have ANY foreigners in our IC?

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:31 AM (U7k5w)

157 Not so sure about that, but I am sure a lot of them were half-assed!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:29 AM (BiNEL)

true

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:31 AM (n13/j)

158 On black friday, I picked up a $5 mouse at WalMart.

waiting for them to put rats on sale

to replace the ones were gonna lose

Posted by: USS PELOSI at December 08, 2019 07:32 AM (rpxSz)

159 > Plumbers and HVAC people don't get replaced with H1B visa Indian and Chinese "visitors"!

No, they get replaced with Mexicans.

Haven't been following the trades lately, I see.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:34 AM (Juxur)

160 I wonder how man foreign born muslims are FBI agents? I know the were bitching about feelings after Trump was elected, but why exactly do we have ANY foreigners in our IC?

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:31 AM (U7k5w)


"No religious test" Article VI, Clause 3 extends its welcoming arms to muz!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:36 AM (BiNEL)

161 > And see if gunk had accumulated on the rollers which follow the movement of the ball?

I have to take my trackball apart about twice a year and clean out cat hair and other gunk.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:36 AM (Juxur)

162 "The House Judiciary Committee released a report Saturday in which it argued that a president may be impeached for "illegitimate motives" even if his actions are "legally permissible."

Barky did this shit daily and did the GOP weenies ever do anything? You don't have to answer that because the answer is fuck no.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:36 AM (Tnijr)

163 > "The House Judiciary Committee released a report Saturday in which it
argued that a president may be impeached for "illegitimate motives" even
if his actions are "legally permissible."


Ah.... "thoughtcrime". 1984 is here, just a few decades late.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:37 AM (Juxur)

164 Haven't been following the trades lately, I see.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:34 AM (Juxur)


Sadly, I forgot that.

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:37 AM (BiNEL)

165 "it argued that a president may be impeached for "illegitimate motives" even if his actions are "legally permissible."

Can't wait till that legal theory winds it's way into criminal law.

They haven't thought this through real well, have they?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (cqNba)

166 Just an FYI...

The Dakota is an apartment building, not a hotel.

I used to babysit for someone in that building when I was in high school. The apartments are gorgeous--high ceilings, parquet wood floors, huge windows, etc.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (sGotD)

167 did the GOP weenies ever do anything? You don't have to answer that because the answer is fuck no.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:36 AM (Tnijr)


Short version of your post

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (BiNEL)

168 "Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said the Pentagon plans to review the screening process for foreign students after a deadly shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola, Fla."

Well the first thing they can do is ban anyone with a name that's a variation on "Mo".

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (Tnijr)

169 parquet wood floors,

Butter

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (vd8XM)

170
How's it look to you all?

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM


It makes your ass look fat.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 08, 2019 07:39 AM (PjnXf)

171 I gave my love a chicken.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 07:28 AM (t+qrx)

but it had no wings?

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:39 AM (n13/j)

172
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 08, 2019 07:40 AM (37boX)

173 "parquet wood floors,

Butter"



Don't piss me off.

Posted by: Mother Nature at December 08, 2019 07:40 AM (cqNba)

174 "No religious test" Article VI, Clause 3 extends its welcoming arms to muz!
Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:36 AM (BiNEL)

Apparently no bars on where you were born either. This is insane. One of my kids works in DC and was contacted by the alumni office from her college to help get foreign students jobs at the NSA. These universities need a good kick in the ass, but then the are all infiltrated by foreigners too.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:40 AM (U7k5w)

175 Can't wait till that legal theory winds it's way into criminal law.

They haven't thought this through real well, have they?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (cqNba)


You missed subclause 75, part z which states that since Democrats can't think, they are exempt!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:41 AM (BiNEL)

176 I gave my love a chicken.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 07:28 AM (t+qrx)

but it had no wings?
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:39 AM (n13/j)


Girls had picked them every one.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 07:41 AM (t+qrx)

177 "Pentagon plans to review the screening process for foreign students after a deadly shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola, Fla."


Yeh.......might want to look into that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at December 08, 2019 07:41 AM (cqNba)

178 169 "Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said the Pentagon plans to review the screening process for foreign students after a deadly shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola, Fla."

Well the first thing they can do is ban anyone with a name that's a variation on "Mo".
Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (Tnijr)

I have an idea: NO foreign students studying our military. None, not even Canadians or Brits.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:42 AM (U7k5w)

179 Well the first thing they can do is ban anyone with a name that's a variation on "Mo".

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 07:38 AM (Tnijr)


Or anyone that asks for Fridays off to go to prayers at the mosque.

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:42 AM (BiNEL)

180 feel good story.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/s4hkwe3

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 07:43 AM (O/X1S)

181 Good morning all. Hey Vic, give the search engine Duck Duck Go a try.



Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 07:44 AM (IttZ7)

182 Or anyone that asks for Fridays off to go to prayers at the mosque.
Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar

How about if I just want to only work a 4 day week?

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:44 AM (vd8XM)

183 Home Depot had a ton of cute stuff for sale, all lining the main alleyway yesterday.

This is a different approach for them. You almost couldn't move there was so much on display. I can't remember so many interesting gift type products for sale, and reasonably priced. Wireless earbuds, Ring doorbell cameras, specialty flashlights, etc.

First time in years I wished that I hadn't finished my Christmas shopping early. Heh.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 08, 2019 07:44 AM (cBpq4)

184 " since Democrats can't think, they are exempt!"

Oh, I would argue that Democrats can indeed think.

And they understand human nature far better than Republicans do.

Saying that Democrats can't think would be along the line of saying that Goebbels couldn't think

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:44 AM (cqNba)

185 I have an idea: NO foreign students studying our military. None, not even Canadians or Brits.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:42 AM (U7k5w)


When we annex western Canada, this will be helpful!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:45 AM (BiNEL)

186 Okay. Breakfast, and now to try this new thing that my physical therapist suggested...
It's called "exercise" I guess it's all the rage in some places.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:45 AM (vd8XM)

187 "It's called "exercise" I guess it's all the rage in some places."

Rumors....


Just rumors.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:46 AM (cqNba)

188 "illegitimate motives?" Sounds, (cough) legit.


Actually, this just seems to be the inverse of Comey's "Hillary committed all these provable crimes, but there was no "intent" so no crimes were committed."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 07:47 AM (IttZ7)

189 I have an idea: NO foreign students studying our military. None, not even Canadians or Brits.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:42 AM (U7k5w)





Kind of a good deal for us.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 07:48 AM (HALdu)

190 There is something particularly odd that 99.9 percent of soldiers on a military base are unarmed. I get there should be screenings, but the whole joining the military thing should be a huge part of that. Civilian CCW holders can't carry on a military base as far as I know.

I am not saying allowing the 2a like any other place where it is still in force is the answer. But I am saying there is something that particularly gnaws that our nation's warriors don't even get a chance to defend themselves in their own home base. That should be the place they are most safe.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:48 AM (n13/j)

191 Digging through the news this morning, it seems we had two double shootings, as well as at least another single shooting.

Three dead.

( I think. Article wording really sux)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:49 AM (cqNba)

192 If the mouse ball is plastic and kept clean periodically it should last forever.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 07:49 AM (ZCEU2)

193 Wait...krakatoa was in a WALMART...on BLACK FRIDAY?

Are ya crazy?

Posted by: Tami at December 08, 2019 07:49 AM (cF8AT)

194 Good say ladie and sirs, May I be please to ask about job at nuclear power plant?

Posted by: Adil Hoxha at December 08, 2019 07:49 AM (IttZ7)

195 Oh, I would argue that Democrats can indeed think.

And they understand human nature far better than Republicans do.

Saying that Democrats can't think would be along the line of saying that Goebbels couldn't think

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:44 AM (cqNba)


It's too early on a Sunday for me to argue against good points such as these, especially when I am in a snarky mood.

Sad part is that you are right, and Democrats (at least their leaders and their globalist overlords) think and plan ahead all the time.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 08, 2019 07:50 AM (BiNEL)

196 "Wait...krakatoa was in a WALMART...on BLACK FRIDAY? "

I thought he was in the Walmart parking lot.

Waving a $5.00 bill.


Maybe I misread it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:51 AM (cqNba)

197 I have no problems with Brits or Canadians. Our best allies these days are often former Soviet Bloc countries. I think some common sense should come into play here. And the Saudi's should pay a dear price. They should pay a price so dear that THEY do the weeding out. And if they do not, cut them off in toto.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:51 AM (n13/j)

198 > None, not even Canadians or Brits.
At one time, that was the default rule, certainly, and I'm dismayed that it ever changed.

I remember the SF writer Robert Heinlein (who was an an Annapolis grad) talking about how one of his jobs as a junior officer was escorting visiting British officers to make sure they didn't go to parts of the ship that had things they weren't supposed to see.

This would've been in the 1930s.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:51 AM (Juxur)

199 Okay. Breakfast, and now to try this new thing that my physical therapist suggested...
It's called "exercise" I guess it's all the rage in some places.

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 07:45 AM (vd8XM)


Watch out for the imported exercise bands!

Posted by: Hairy Reed at December 08, 2019 07:52 AM (BiNEL)

200 Jihadi had a snuff film party, had his fellows film the jihad, wrote a little manifesto praising OBL, if it walks, smells and acts like a jihad it's a jihad.
It's just not that hard to figure out, I know Leftists don't want it to be but it is.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 07:52 AM (ZCEU2)

201 > Our best allies these days are often former Soviet Bloc countries.

Except, oddly, the Germans.
Still a lot of commies there, for some reason.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:52 AM (Juxur)

202 190: The Saudis have their own Air Force, as do the Canadians for that matter, why the hell are we training them on our bases?

191: And if our soldiers and airmen are not armed why the fuck did a foreigner have a gun?

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:52 AM (U7k5w)

203 and i don't mean just training. I mean all defense deals, every damn weapon.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:52 AM (n13/j)

204 "It's too early on a Sunday for me to argue against good points such as these, especially when I am in a snarky mood.
"

Snark is good....

It's why at least half of us come here.

Reach out...use the force snark.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:53 AM (cqNba)

205 "Saying that Democrats can't think would be along the line of saying that Goebbels couldn't think "

You mean GURGLES?

Posted by: AL SHARPTON at December 08, 2019 07:53 AM (Tnijr)

206 Waving a $5.00 bill.

Maybe I misread it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:51 AM (cqNba)


So, same as in town?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 07:53 AM (BiNEL)

207 Waving a $5.00 bill.

Maybe I misread it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:51 AM (cqNba)

So, same as in town?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 07:53 AM (BiNEL)


Deep, too.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 07:54 AM (t+qrx)

208 > but it had no wings?

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:39 AM (n13/j)

A famous (or infamous) bar here used to advertise a "boneless chicken dinner" for $1.00.
It was a hard-boiled egg.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:54 AM (Juxur)

209 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:53 AM (cqNba)

Embrace the snark!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 07:54 AM (BiNEL)

210 198 I have no problems with Brits or Canadians. Our best allies these days are often former Soviet Bloc countries. I think some common sense should come into play here. And the Saudi's should pay a dear price. They should pay a price so dear that THEY do the weeding out. And if they do not, cut them off in toto.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:51 AM (n13/j)

The people here who did the "screening" need to be investigated and punished appropriately. Their figure head be it Esper or even Wray (who I detest) needs to be fired, not allowed to resign, loudly fired.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:55 AM (U7k5w)

211 "Embrace the snark!"

Yes.....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:55 AM (cqNba)

212 Saying that Democrats can't think would be along the line of saying that Goebbels couldn't think
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:44 AM (cqNba)


I wouldn't associate Hank Johnson with any brain activity beyond involuntary motor spasms.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 07:56 AM (y7DUB)

213 "And the Saudi's should pay a dear price. They should pay a price so dear that THEY do the weeding out."

I am pretty sure that the King is pretty busy as we speak.

He just took a giant kick in the nuts with this shooting.

It's HIS country.

It's HIS military.

I don't doubt that there are some folk in deep and serious physical pain in the deep bowels of some building in the Kingdom, as we speak.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:58 AM (cqNba)

214 "I wouldn't associate Hank Johnson with any brain activity beyond involuntary motor spasms."

He does kinda skew the bell curve there, don't he.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:59 AM (cqNba)

215 ut it had no wings?


Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:39 AM (n13/j)

A famous (or infamous) bar here used to advertise a "boneless chicken dinner" for $1.00.
It was a hard-boiled egg.






Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 08, 2019 07:54 AM (Juxur)

clever. This is rant but I flat out hate boneless wings. Why would someone make a boneless "wing" unless they were hiding something or at least trying to add a bunch of non wing crap to it?
There is the old joke about the guy who created a chicken with three legs. His wife, his son, and he liked the leg so he came up with the monstrosity. Someone asked him how hit tasted. He said, " I don't know, I haven't been able to catch one yet"
I will see myself out.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 07:59 AM (n13/j)

216 The people here who did the "screening" need to be investigated and punished appropriately. Their figure head be it Esper or even Wray (who I detest) needs to be fired, not allowed to resign, loudly fired.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:55 AM (U7k5w)


I am sure that security screeners would be summarily fired with prejudice if they did not fully embrace the "#WOKE" HR screening directions!

It also helps that the meaning of taking an oath has been so degraded as to be a meaningless artifact that appears at the bottom of a useless standard form!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:00 AM (BiNEL)

217 Only most of those who lived under Communist rule see its not a good life, those who only read about it's wonderful goals want to try it.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 08:00 AM (ZCEU2)

218 214: It's also OUR country and OUR military, the US is not just a job camp for foreigners. Someone here needs to find themselves in pain too, careers need to be ruined, and maybe prison time is in order for this failure. The IC can't always be so blameless. Did we have foreign students doing the screening, too?

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:01 AM (U7k5w)

219 We need another party.

Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at December 08, 2019 08:01 AM (qafj7)


The AoS stylebook says that spelling should be "Par-Tay!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:02 AM (BiNEL)

220
124 Poor Greta
Now maybe she can return to school.

https://bit.ly/36ieAJY
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 07:19 AM (cqNba)


Go, and preach your message in People's Republic of China, you brave little activist climate golem, you! Give them a good dose of your awesome gurrrrrrrrl power!

No, seriously, and right now!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 08:03 AM (pNxlR)

221 "It's also OUR country and OUR military, the US is not just a job camp for foreigners. Someone here needs to find themselves in pain too, careers need to be ruined, and maybe prison time is in order for this failure."

Yes....that as well.


Very much so.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:03 AM (cqNba)

222 Did we have foreign students doing the screening, too?

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:01 AM (U7k5w)


Xenophobic H8R!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:03 AM (BiNEL)

223 Having worked in IT long enough to have a lot of gray in the beard, I remember when IBM was 800lb gorilla in hardware. Well, below is a link from IBM to their service personnel on how to fix mouse issues:

https://tinyurl.com/tdwrh7p

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 08, 2019 08:04 AM (D3cJf)

224 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:00 AM (BiNEL)

Then the wokesters in HR need to go after a thorough investigation of them, their families and their connections. This was not one sly jihadi, this was a team.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)

225 "Well, below is a link from IBM to their service personnel on how to fix mouse issues:"

That needs to be read in its entirety.

Just for the awesomeness of the wording.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:06 AM (cqNba)

226 he people here who did the "screening" need to be
investigated and punished appropriately. Their figure head be it Esper
or even Wray (who I detest) needs to be fired, not allowed to resign,
loudly fired.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 07:55 AM (U7k5w)

yes. Someone has to say the bullshit is over. No more games.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:06 AM (n13/j)

227 Training the technical specialists and officer corps of someone else's military does yield some benefits to the U.S.

Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 08:07 AM (HALdu)

228 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:00 AM (BiNEL)
Then the wokesters in HR need to go after a thorough investigation of them, their families and their connections. This was not one sly jihadi, this was a team.
Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)


Oh how I agree with you, the more you reflect on this the worse it gets!

But remember "DIVERSHITY IS OUR STRENGTH!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:08 AM (BiNEL)

229 News is on. Anyone named mohhamed or anything similar needs deported. This shit is fkd up. This FL thing is messed up.

-

Its useful to remember that Pew by-Allah actually asked practicing (which means praying) Muslims and the percentage who believe sharia should be the law of the land, believe in murdering apostates, believe in stoning women for adultery, etc etc STARTS at half and increases from there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at December 08, 2019 08:08 AM (0GvUH)

230 This was not one sly jihadi, this was a team.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:04 AM (U7k5w)


Is the "team" currently at Gitmo?

If not, then you know the outcome!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 08, 2019 08:09 AM (BiNEL)

231 Time to cease training all muzzies from muzzieland and get them outta here faster than you can say "Jackie Robinson".

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 08:11 AM (Z+IKu)

232 We could take all Saudi military student applicants and drop them from helicopters at 1,000 ft.

Those which their god desires to attend flight school here will survive.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:12 AM (cqNba)

233 Woke up in my clothes again this morning
Don't know exactly where I am
But I should heed my doctor's warning
He does the best with me he can
He claims I suffer from delusion
But I'm so confident I'm sane
There can be no optical illusion
How can you explain...
...Epstein Didn't Kill Himself!

Mornin' Horde.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 08, 2019 08:12 AM (D5yyd)

234 The Democrats hit Devin Nunes with bullshit ethics charges and he had to recuse himself from committee for almost a year over merely talking to the President about the operations being conducted against his campaign, which have now been born out.

That was 100% on Paul Ryan who worked 24/7 against honoring any of the DJT campaign promises. I doubt if Paul Singer got a higher return on investment from anyone else, although Sassehole might be in the running, particularly because Eddie Munster's now on the board of Fox News.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 08:12 AM (y7DUB)

235 I would argue screen the crap out of a Muslim but you still any day of the week could get a jihad from them.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 08:13 AM (ZCEU2)

236 229 Training the technical specialists and officer corps of someone else's military does yield some benefits to the U.S.
Posted by: not so at December 08, 2019 08:07 AM (HALdu)

Then we can send staff to assist them on their territory. Giving these people free rein on our bases and the ability to travel around the country serves no purpose. So little supervision was provided that at least one got a weapon and others were watching terror videos. We can spy on Nunes and Giuliani, but we can't keep an eye on foreigners? This bullshit is bullshit. There needs to be some serious terminations of "screeners", I would not be surprised if some got the Hunter Biden payoff treatment.

Epstein didn't kill himself, and this group of jihadis did not slip in unnoticed.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:14 AM (U7k5w)

237
227 "Well, below is a link from IBM to their service personnel on how to fix mouse issues:"

That needs to be read in its entirety.

Just for the awesomeness of the wording.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:06 AM (cqNba)


Whoever wrote the core memo obviously, I believe, gave a lot of thought how to simultaneously pack it with innuendo while avoiding stepping over any of IBm's lines that might have led to its being censored. The "discharge" portion especially shows this care. Well done, good sir or madam, well done!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 08:14 AM (pNxlR)

238 Nunes says Shift-for-brains falsified his phone records.


https://tinyurl.com/r3n7ecw

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)


You mean he's adding more lies to the stack of lies he's already told so everything he's got is a lie.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (Qp8qt)

239 How many times have Islamic "allies" we have been training turned their guns on their instructors? It's f'n absurd to continue doing this.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (Tnijr)

240 238 I would argue screen the crap out of a Muslim but you still any day of the week could get a jihad from them.
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 08:13 AM (ZCEU2)

No foreign students in our military. That solves this. I would also tighten up on foreign born in general. It is no accident that Vindman, Masha, and Fiona Hill were all foreign born.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (U7k5w)

241 "Whoever wrote the core memo obviously, I believe, gave a lot of thought how to simultaneously pack it with innuendo while avoiding stepping over any of IBm's lines that might have led to its being censored."

Indeed.

That is Johnny Carson level innuendo, right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (cqNba)

242 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (Zz0t1)

243 Hey Vic! Good to see you.

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (G546f)

244 Paul Ryan makes Tim Kaine seem relevant.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (n13/j)

245 I have a $125 Microsoft Ergo keyboard and mouse combo. I'm hard on keyboards for some reason, but this one performs like a champ and I'm pretty pleased with it.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:17 AM (Zz0t1)

246 http://bit.ly/346vv0B
*******
AOC Says There Is Too Much Division In Our Country When Addition And Subtraction Are Hard Enough | The Babylon Bee

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 08, 2019 08:17 AM (BqBId)

247 Wrote many times, I blame most of President Trump's trouble on Paul Ryan. If that fkwad wouldn't have fought tooth and nail over the President's agenda the Democrats would have been steamrolled straight away not letting them get a foothold to start.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 08:17 AM (ZCEU2)

248 Remember how the ladies gushed when Ryan was on the cover of a magazine working out? I couldn't get over that because he looked like a geek to me.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 08:18 AM (Tnijr)

249 Mouse Problem?
Call Little Bunny Foo Foo
1-800-BOP-BOP

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:18 AM (G546f)

250 Just as an aside, I hope no one gets the Flu that I have because it has been kicking my ass since Thursday. Man this SUCKS

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 08, 2019 08:19 AM (BqBId)

251 No foreign students in our military. That solves
this. I would also tighten up on foreign born in general. It is no
accident that Vindman, Masha, and Fiona Hill were all foreign born.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:16 AM (U7k5w)


And Samantha Power.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 08:19 AM (IttZ7)

252
Appropriate for the day --

https://youtu.be/ED5s1-Fe9FA

Johnny Cash, of course.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 08, 2019 08:19 AM (pNxlR)

253 "It is no accident that Vindman, Masha, and Fiona Hill were all foreign born."

But then you run right into Hasan.

Native born to this country.

Perhaps it is not the location of birth, but the religion chosen to be followed.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:19 AM (cqNba)

254 Has the Royal House of Saud arranged for first class travel for the perpetrators back to Mecca yet? The Saudia 747 is ready at Reagan National.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2019 08:21 AM (EZebt)

255 http://bit.ly/2RvFA4n
******
Rep. Mike Rogers: Nancy Pelosi Knows Impeachment Will Cost Dems Majority in 2020 | Breitbart

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 08, 2019 08:23 AM (BqBId)

256 Good morning, everyone.

I seriously think that Dr. Jill Biden hates Joe and shows it by letting him continue this embarrassing masquerade and not begging him to stop.

He's really really damaged.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:23 AM (Zz0t1)

257 And then besides the enemy within, we need to worry about leaders who are afraid to lead.

And afraid to make judgement calls.

Pearl Harbor shooter appears to have just been disciplined, and was being actively councilled due to animosity against his command.

And somebody made the decision to say 'let's put Seaman Timmy on the watch bill, topside, with a sidearm'


Or so the rumors say.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:24 AM (cqNba)

258 Every time my husband needs to help me with my computer at work, he tries to use my mouse, sighs, and rubs the bottom of it on one of my notebooks to clean it.

I don't have the heart to tell him that my keyboard numpad has a stuck #3 key, and the rest are starting to follow suit.

Posted by: pookysgirl, knitter of bizarre hats at December 08, 2019 08:24 AM (XKZwp)

259 Anne Coulter blasts 3 DIABLOs who she says will vote to impeach Trump.


I thought she hated Trump now.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (oVJmc)

260 I wonder if any FOX higher ups noticed that?
Posted by: Huxley's Eyeglass Emporium at December 08, 2019 08:14 AM (qafj7)


That's pretty funny.

There was a pretty good discussion a few days ago on Rush at Althouse but none of them hit on my two pet peeves.

1. In an Internet rapid response in real time access to data, he still wheezes his way through commercials at a Bill zzzzzzz Bennett pace.

2. He should've been the one to do what Tucker did on revealing Singer as one of, perhaps THE, Top Men directing the R wing of the Uniparty. This hasn't been exactly a well kept secret, even I knew about it, and when he railed against the GOPe he never took it to the next level. With his staff and resources I consider that inexcusably lazy and a sign of how he's been mailing it in.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (y7DUB)

261 Native born to this country.

Perhaps it is not the location of birth, but the religion chosen to be followed.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:19 AM (cqNba)

Why did we accept his Palestinian parents anyway? And this stupid birthright citizenship also gave us Huma, who was born here, but raised in SA.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (U7k5w)

262 Biden needs to stay in. As long as he keeps soaking up the funds of the billionaires who don't want the outright commies, he holds back their whole field.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:26 AM (oVJmc)

263 Democrats are bad enough. Who would Joe Biden pick as his VP? Seriously. The guy is barely going to finish the primaries. How the fuck can anyone expect him to make it 4 years as president? The VP would take over, first term.

America would be DOUBLY screwed in a Biden Presidency.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:26 AM (Zz0t1)

264 243 How many times have Islamic "allies" we have been training turned their guns on their instructors? It's f'n absurd to continue doing this.
______________________

The problem is that our government (and media and academia, etc.) absolutely refuse to acknowledge and confront the truth about islam: that one of its core tenets is violence against non-muslims.

They insist that islam is "a religion of peace" even though its own holy books make clear that it is not. They deny that muslims who commit violence are acting in compliance with islam, even though it is clear that they are, and even though islamic scholars (like the now-dead ISIS leader, who had a Ph.D. in islamic studies) admit that they are.

Until we as a society are willing to admit the truth about islam, the killings will continue, and our government will continue to express its shock and dismay at the "unexpected" murders every . . . damn . . . time.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 08, 2019 08:27 AM (k4dH2)

265 Anne Coulter blasts 3 DIABLOs who she says will vote to impeach Trump.


I thought she hated Trump now.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (oVJmc)


The blonde scarecrow will do anything short of porn for attention.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 08:28 AM (y7DUB)

266 I thought she hated Trump now.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (oVJmc)


Who the fuck knows what that herm thinks from minute to minute.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:28 AM (Zz0t1)

267 I feel like a million bucks - no malarky. I just pumped out 10 push ups! Feel this bicep! Come on, feel it. Your hair smells good. Jill, where's my paste? Mmmm, fingers.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 08, 2019 08:28 AM (IttZ7)

268 Is that a recent photo of Greta?
She looks gaunt

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:29 AM (G546f)

269 Good Sunday morning everyone.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 08, 2019 08:31 AM (dUJdY)

270
Democrats are bad enough. Who would Joe Biden pick as his VP?
Seriously. The guy is barely going to finish the primaries. How the
fuck can anyone expect him to make it 4 years as president? The VP
would take over, first term.



America would be DOUBLY screwed in a Biden Presidency.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:26 AM (Zz0t1)


Joe Biden: You don't think I have what it takes Jack? I'll challenge any one of you to a nose picking contest and then let's see who says I don't have what it takes to take what it takes if you're taking it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2019 08:31 AM (JXWAw)

271 Is that a recent photo of Greta?
She looks gaunt
Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:29 AM (G546f)


She looks like effin' Sméagol.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 08:31 AM (t+qrx)

272 Is that a recent photo of Greta?
She looks gaunt
Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:29 AM (G546f)


Spoiled ass attention whore is deteriorating before our very eyes. The poster child for how evil and parasitic the left is.

The poor kid should be at home, being treated for her illnesses and attending school.

Not gallivanting around the world as if she's some high IQ genius with knowledge to save the world.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:32 AM (Zz0t1)

273 Not gallivanting around the world as if she's some high IQ genius with knowledge to save the world.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:32 AM (Zz0t1)


And this too, is the story of Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 08:34 AM (IttZ7)

274 Grumpy Greta is probably on a veg diet. No wonder she's so grumpy.

Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 08:35 AM (Tnijr)

275 I thought she hated Trump now.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (oVJmc)

She never hated Trump. She just has her own priorities.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:35 AM (H8QX8)

276 Anne Coulter blasts 3 DIABLOs who she says will vote to impeach Trump.





I thought she hated Trump now.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:25 AM (oVJmc)

I read one of her books once and it was ok. I think it was called Godless or something. Either way, I think most of us are over her. Maybe it is not fair but you can only spend so much time caring about a self appointed celebrity. She simply doesn't register with me anymore

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:35 AM (n13/j)

277 276 hey look at that fancy e with the diacritical mark!
You must have Double Platinum HQ Membership, hogmartin

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:36 AM (G546f)

278 I wake up each morning and thank God. I thank God for America. And paste. Because the paste, it can be used for things.....and and and and and and these things, that kids do.......they get in my lap....and I like them in my lap......They do things.....and and and and and and and and they are what we need........

When I was working in the cotton fields, picking the cotton for the masters.......My fingers would bleed.........they'd stain the cotton as they bled. But no matter. I could swim....and swimming made me feel better, cuz the hair on my legs was LONG........and the blonde hairs......the the the the the the the the kids....they'd stroke my legs to play with the hairs.........These are the things I get to do every day.

Posted by: Joe "Rupret" Biden at December 08, 2019 08:37 AM (Zz0t1)

279 Katie Hill recounts contemplating suicide after resigning from Congress in new op-ed



Hill recounts sitting in a bath two days after he resignation when, "Suddenly and with total clarity, I just wanted it all to be over." She says she tried to find a box cutter but couldn't and had to settle for a paring knife. Hill wrote that she traced the outlines of the veins on her wrist a few times, applying more and more pressure each time, but stopped before she cut herself.




If at first you don't succeed...



"I thought about the Girl Scouts whose troops I'd visited who told me they wanted to grow up to be like me



A drugged out whore?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 08, 2019 08:37 AM (TGRa1)

280 Going to try a spoon of chocolate pudding in a cup of coffee
For science
Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:03 AM


Pre-dip or post-dip?

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 08, 2019 08:37 AM (DMUuz)

281 Until we as a society are willing to admit the truth about islam, the killings will continue, and our government will continue to express its shock and dismay at the "unexpected" murders every . . . damn . . . time.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 08, 2019 08:27 AM (k4dH2)

I'd like to see Trump recruit Ayaan Hirsi Ali into some public role.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:37 AM (H8QX8)

282

Ann Coulter knows where the skeletons are buried?
In her Mountain Cabin...back closet on the left!

Like the lady she sure can shake the bones-heads from the DIMOS...she could be a rattling good time if yer Vegan. Fine lady I'm sure,Funny how you are in the Limey Light and all is fair in comments...kinda tough life these days for all but the thick skinned (which she has in Spades)..keep MACRO AGGRESSING the Whimpoles of Barrys street!

Posted by: saf at December 08, 2019 08:38 AM (5IHGB)

283 Grumpy Greta is probably on a veg diet. No wonder she's so grumpy.
Posted by: freaked at December 08, 2019 08:35 AM (Tnijr)

Yup....she needs to eat. How else is she going to fight off the muzzie rape when she gets home to the North Pole.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 08:38 AM (Z+IKu)

284 279 I remember reading somewhere that because of her OCD, Greta only eats peanut butter sandwiches

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:38 AM (G546f)

285 I see the news about the Pensacola shooting has dried up. I wonder why?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 08, 2019 08:39 AM (JUOKG)

286 What IF
Biden picks Hillary as his VP

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:40 AM (G546f)

287 Sponge I agree. She's the one who convinced him to enter the race and is pushing to keep him in it. She wants to be first lady so bad she can taste it. She is a horrible woman.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 08, 2019 08:40 AM (dUJdY)

288 I've concluded I'm trackball that trackballs are retarded.

Its entertaining for me to spot people who attempt to use my computer to about navigate with the trackball set to "Very-Sensitive".

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 08:40 AM (lD3vL)

289 I ignored Greta in toto That is not a prescription for all as the hard left needs to be opposed. But she simply didn't matter to me. I made a point of never seeing her or hearing from her. At first when people started talking about Greta, I thought they were talking about Van Susteren.

I wish her all the best as she will likely be discarded by the Left At best she gets elected to some unimportant post in Scandinavia and has to explain from for decades why all her alarmist projections were bull crap.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:40 AM (n13/j)

290 egads, i can use more covfefe

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 08:40 AM (lD3vL)

291 ...and has to explain from for decades why all her alarmist projections were bull crap.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:40 AM (n13/j)


That would be novel. I wouldn't count on that part.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 08:41 AM (t+qrx)

292 Maybe it is not fair but you can only spend so much time caring about a self appointed celebrity. She simply doesn't register with me anymore
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:35 AM (n13/j)

I would say she's earned her celebrity, if that's what it is. She's a diligent researcher and a highly capable and prolific writer. She's contributed far more to the conservative bank than most. She's a gifted and mercurial intellect, with an overactive ego as well, and she can't sit still with what bothers her moment to moment.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:43 AM (H8QX8)

293 One of the more cruel comments I've read online this week was on a story about Greta.

The first comment listed at the time was "Where's Jeffery Epstein when you need him."

That's pretty harsh.

Posted by: Joe at December 08, 2019 08:43 AM (Zz0t1)

294 I would like a little help here...

I only read JJS's Morning Report, because all of the rest of the web is Gurgles... and its been Friday morning since my last update...

Why are the flags at half staff/mast ?

Has yet another drug addict who was known for singing recently found dead in the bathtub?

(I'm still trying to understand the new flag protocols)

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 08:44 AM (lD3vL)

295 hey look at that fancy e with the diacritical mark!
You must have Double Platinum HQ Membership, hogmartin
Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:36 AM


Pïng jockeys have specïal abïlïtïes, not the least of which ïs double dottïng theï ï's.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 08, 2019 08:44 AM (DMUuz)

296 Why are the flags at half staff/mast ?

Has yet another drug addict who was known for singing recently found dead in the bathtub?

(I'm still trying to understand the new flag protocols)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 08:44 AM (lD3vL)


Florida NAS shooting?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:45 AM (Zz0t1)

297 I see the news about the Pensacola shooting has dried up. I wonder why?


Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 08, 2019 08:39 AM (JUOKG)

The thing president Trump has been the most correct on is the media. Many don't want to believe this because fixing such a thing seems an insurmountable task. I think Trump can be too caustic at times. There are times when you could lay it out in a less harsh way. But he was right about the media. They are the Third Column.

The only way I can think of to oppose them and academia is to take them on and offer alternatives. They can not be shamed, the die has been cast. The only way is to create new media and new academia. I am sick and tired of conservatives saying you have to parrot your lefty profs views to get a good grade. No, don't send your kids to those garbage universities. We say it, but it does not happen.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:45 AM (n13/j)

298 Remembrance of Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

299 Blackhawk Down B-roll was filmed at my local Walmart.

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2019 08:46 AM (RuIsu)

300 Greta will be in a straitjacket before she's 20.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:46 AM (oVJmc)

301 Greta will be homeless and shitting the streets in San Francisco before she's 20.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 08:47 AM (Z+IKu)

302 Is this mouse like Harvey the rabbit? I don't see sh!t!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 08, 2019 08:48 AM (vGJY7)

303 Greta will be homeless and shitting the streets in San Francisco before she's 20.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 08:47 AM (Z+IKu)


Not if she keeps the peanut butter sandwiches thing going.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 08:48 AM (t+qrx)

304 Greta will be homeless and shitting the streets in San Francisco before she's 20.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2019 08:47 AM (Z+IKu)


She didn't do that while she was in California? I thought that was one of the "Things to do in California" and promoted by the Tourism Board.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

305 Pïng jockeys are also know for theï abïlïty to plumb the depths.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 08, 2019 08:48 AM (DMUuz)

306 I'd like to see Trump recruit Ayaan Hirsi Ali into some public role.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:37 AM (H8QX

Not me, a dual citizen married to a dual citizen (who happens to hate Trump). No duals should ever be appointed.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:49 AM (U7k5w)

307 I would say she's earned her celebrity, if that's
what it is. She's a diligent researcher and a highly capable and
prolific writer. She's contributed far more to the conservative bank
than most. She's a gifted and mercurial intellect, with an overactive
ego as well, and she can't sit still with what bothers her moment to
moment.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:43 AM (H8QX

I hear ya. I thought she was right on with her book and she has been ok many times on tv. I don't track with her in toto but respect her diligence. For me, it comes down to taking a side. I don't want someone in my foxhole that is going to turn on me when the going gets rough.


The real thing is she is just not on my radar anymore. She might be saying the right things on a certain subject but it doesn't matter to me anymore. During the Clinton regime, she was important from conservatives. I don't think she had gained much support since then.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:50 AM (n13/j)

308 The story of the Naval Academy grad that was shot 6? times but still got outside to tell the cops who/where the shooter was before he died should be THE STORY about the NAS terrorism. For goodness sake that boy was something else.

To his family, I salute you.

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 08, 2019 08:50 AM (cknjq)

309 290 I see the news about the Pensacola shooting has dried up. I wonder why?
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 08, 2019 08:39 AM (JUOKG)

===

I am fairly apoplectic about it. But since the House of Saud owns so much of DC...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 08, 2019 08:50 AM (EZebt)

310 I would say she's earned her celebrity, if that's what it is. She's a diligent researcher and a highly capable and prolific writer. She's contributed far more to the conservative bank than most. She's a gifted and mercurial intellect, with an overactive ego as well, and she can't sit still with what bothers her moment to moment.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:43 AM (H8QX


I like the way Tammy Bruce, who has complained about Coulter snarking her for cheap laughs, does the same thing but more professionally imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 08:51 AM (y7DUB)

311 (I'm still trying to understand the new flag protocols)

If we were running under the traditional protocols, I was all excited and thought that Team D finally acknowledged that we now need a replacement SCOTUS jurist.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 08, 2019 08:51 AM (lD3vL)

312 There was a write up somewhere about Greta and during her fake sailing across the ocean where the Australian's that actually did all the work said people just don't see the real Greta and how vulnerable and human she is, trying to garner some sympathy for her.

She's a 16 year old kid with the brain of an 8 year old. OF COURSE she's vulnerable. Her father probably molests her and tells her it's what makes her strong......that kid is damaged and should be treated.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:51 AM (Zz0t1)

313 I'm glad Dan Bongino started his own news aggregation website. Need some competition for YouTube as well. I was thinking maybe ScrewTube, but I'm sure there's already a porn site with that name. I stopped googling stuff like that because the results were scary.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 08, 2019 08:52 AM (vGJY7)

314 Ping jockey?

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:52 AM (G546f)

315 Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:50 AM (n13/j)

I understand. I confess that Ann and I are from the same small town and went to the same high school (New Canaan, CT) and I feel a kind of affinity. I always liked the way she refused to denigrate her upbringing like so many from that time and place did but rather to see what was good and interesting about it. She really has a wonderful sense of humor and joy.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:53 AM (H8QX8)

316 I'm glad Dan Bongino started his own news aggregation website. Need some competition for YouTube as well. I was thinking maybe ScrewTube, but I'm sure there's already a porn site with that name. I stopped googling stuff like that because the results were scary.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 08, 2019 08:52 AM (vGJY7)


Does anyone know anything about this Dave Rubin project that's supposed to give YouTube a run for it's money?

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:54 AM (Zz0t1)

317 319
Ping jockey?

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:52 AM (G546f)


I too am unfamiliar with that term. Bit Plumber? Network Engineer?


Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 08:54 AM (IttZ7)

318 Ping jockey?
Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:52 AM (G546f)


Sonarman.

Might be "Person of Sonar" now.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 08, 2019 08:55 AM (t+qrx)

319 She didn't do that while she was in California? I thought that was one of the "Things to do in California" and promoted by the Tourism Board.

I didn't see that listed on the link with most overrated and underrated attractions in each state.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 08, 2019 08:55 AM (vGJY7)

320 I saw Ping Jockey open for Theolonious Munk at the Grenada Theater in '73.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 08:55 AM (Zz0t1)

321 I see the news about the Pensacola shooting has dried up. I wonder why?

Because they can't try to blame Trump without pointing at Muslims, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:55 AM (oVJmc)

322 We've already seen what happens when conservatives try to set up alternative social media - theyare blacklisted financially and can't get money coz "hate site"

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:55 AM (G546f)

323 Does anyone know anything about this Dave Rubin project that's supposed to give YouTube a run for it's money?

I haven't heard about that. Probably name it ButtTube.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 08, 2019 08:56 AM (vGJY7)

324 http://bit.ly/2rh5uOM
*********
FBI Detains 10 Saudis After Attack, Searching For More After Attacker Had Party To Watch Mass Shooting Videos | The Daily Wire

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 08, 2019 08:56 AM (BqBId)

325 I think it's about time to do the chant "Book Thread, Book Thread, Book Thread.


Come on, everybody, do the wave too...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 08:56 AM (IttZ7)

326 Hogmartin, are you posting from a submarine?



And is it yellow?

Posted by: VMom's phone (aka VM's phone) at December 08, 2019 08:57 AM (G546f)

327 Half staff flags Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 08, 2019 08:57 AM (+fPHo)

328 268 Democrats are bad enough. Who would Joe Biden pick as his VP? Seriously. The guy is barely going to finish the primaries. How the fuck can anyone expect him to make it 4 years as president? The VP would take over, first term.

America would be DOUBLY screwed in a Biden Presidency.

I repeat, and I see no reason to doubt this: No matter who is the nominee, the Veep Nominee is gonna be Tank Abrams.

Just imagine President Tank. It would be the "I'M GON' GIT YOU, WHITEY!!!" presidency.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 08:57 AM (V2Yro)

329 326 I see the news about the Pensacola shooting has dried up. I wonder why?

Because they can't try to blame Trump without pointing at Muslims, too.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:55 AM (oVJmc)

Money. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden aren't the only people enjoying lots of foreign cash. I agree with whoever wants all of Congress' financial records opened, if Trump's are. I would extend that to all high ranking gov't people and the Federal Courts.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 08:58 AM (U7k5w)

330 "Because they can't try to blame Trump without pointing at Muslims, too."

Trump has upset our allies so much that this poor man was pushed to commit this act of workplace violence.

Posted by: duh media at December 08, 2019 08:58 AM (Tnijr)

331
Does anyone know anything about this Dave Rubin project that's supposed to give YouTube a run for it's money?


Google will simply buy them out or stomp them flat.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 08, 2019 08:58 AM (oVJmc)

332 Because they can't try to blame Trump without pointing at Muslims, too.

Why? The can blame Trump because they're feeling alienated due to his supposed islamaphobia. Besides, I thought white nationalism was what we had to really worry about. Ask mayor buttplug.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at December 08, 2019 08:59 AM (vGJY7)

333 Kamala doesn't make electoral college sense. Tank does. Terrifying either way.

Posted by: dagny at December 08, 2019 08:59 AM (nRWPy)

334 I am sick and tired of conservatives saying you have to parrot your lefty profs views to get a good grade. No, don't send your kids to those garbage universities. We say it, but it does not happen.
Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 08:45 AM (n13/j)


When my youngest daughter got into Columbia in the late 90s I was pretty fucking proud. By the time she graduated I was pretty sure I'd thrown a lot of money away. She's pretty honest with me and knows my opinion on what education is all about, and still insisted the last time we talked about this that it was a good experience. It was still too damn expensive by any reasonable standard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 08:59 AM (y7DUB)

335 5 year old calls 911 for dad who's having chest pains....

https://tinyurl.com/tlb62hw

Posted by: Tami at December 08, 2019 08:59 AM (cF8AT)

336 understand. I confess that Ann and I are from the
same small town and went to the same high school (New Canaan, CT) and I
feel a kind of affinity. I always liked the way she refused to denigrate
her upbringing like so many from that time and place did but rather to
see what was good and interesting about it. She really has a wonderful
sense of humor and joy.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 08, 2019 08:53 AM (H8QX

I understand. She is a fighter and was a fighter when many would not fight on tv. I respect her intellect but to me her time has passed. I could be wrong about that but that is how I feel about it. I don't follow her anymore for whatever reason. She could be making important points that I simply miss. People in this business sometimes move on for others. I recall really likely Mark Steyn but I don't think he is making the same waves he did a decade ago.

She could become relevant again and lead a new conservative wave. It is there for anyone to get I guess.


Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM (n13/j)

337
Just imagine President Tank. It would be the "I'M GON' GIT YOU, WHITEY!!!" presidency.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 08:57 AM (V2Yro)


Imagine the graft in that White House.....and the racism......worse than mike Owebama.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM (Zz0t1)

338 I think it's pretty clear that foreign money has bought a big seat at the table in DC.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM (U7k5w)

339 Isn't a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign a dog whistle? And itself a symbol of hatred? Hatred for anyone not in their kumbaya camp?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM (+fPHo)

340 Just imagine President Tank. It would be the "I'M GON' GIT YOU, WHITEY!!!" presidency.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 08:57 AM (V2Yro)

========
Now we're going to have nightmares every night from now on....

Posted by: White House Kitchen Staff at December 08, 2019 09:01 AM (IttZ7)

341 "Hatred for anyone not in their kumbaya camp?"

I don't hate anyone. I pray for them.

Posted by: Nasty Pelosi at December 08, 2019 09:01 AM (Tnijr)

342 344 Isn't a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign a dog whistle? And itself a symbol of hatred? Hatred for anyone not in their kumbaya camp?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM (+fPHo)

Completely.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:02 AM (U7k5w)

343 I pray for them to drop dead.

Posted by: Nasty Pelosi at December 08, 2019 09:02 AM (Tnijr)

344 329 http://bit.ly/2rh5uOM
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FBI Detains 10 Saudis After Attack, Searching For More After Attacker Had Party To Watch Mass Shooting Videos | The Daily Wire

Trump should place a phone call to the Crown Prince, and say
"hey you know we didn't give you much grief about that Kashoggi thing, and we're still supporting your entire kingdom, so the least you could do for us is whack off the families of these 10, and all of their first cousins, and aunts, and uncles, and their in-laws. That'd get the message across, and we KNOW you can do it. Ok?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 08, 2019 09:03 AM (V2Yro)

345 Book Thread Up!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 08, 2019 09:03 AM (IttZ7)

346 From USA Today: The Pensacola shooter did not use his service issued weapon. No shit Sherlock! His service issued weapon, if he even has one, is in Saudi Arabia. Next: 'He used a handgun". Okay, true, but incredibly disingenuous. How, and where did a foreign national purchase a handgun? Don't they teach ANY journalism in those schools anymore?

Posted by: Bill R. at December 08, 2019 09:04 AM (wzzJf)

347 344 Isn't a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign a dog whistle? And itself a symbol of hatred? Hatred for anyone not in their kumbaya camp?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM (+fPHo)

And those signs are another reason we quit our congregation. They also vowed to be inclusive and diverse. How exactly is a synagogue going to do this? Attract muslim members? Everytime they had some interfaith muslim event, I worried that it wouldn't be long before they knew where the preschool was and how to access it. I demanded my daughter not consider the synagogue preschool for the kids.

Posted by: CN at December 08, 2019 09:05 AM (U7k5w)

348 When my youngest daughter got into Columbia in the
late 90s I was pretty fucking proud. By the time she graduated I was
pretty sure I'd thrown a lot of money away. She's pretty honest with me
and knows my opinion on what education is all about, and still insisted
the last time we talked about this that it was a good experience. It
was still too damn expensive by any reasonable standard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2019 08:59 AM (y7DUB)

When I went to school be it high school or college, I never felt put upon by lefty profs. Maybe it was a personal choice to not be a victim, but I never believed I was being downgraded over political beliefs. I argued with profs all the time. Hell, I enjoyed the debates. They would assign lefty diatribes to read at times but I enjoyed reading them really.

It seems like things have changed and I feel sorry for kids in school today. There are so many extra factors such as social media and shaming that we did not have to deal with back in the day. If half of what is being reported is true, college is nothing like what I went through. Even in High School I would go at the lefty teachers and they would go at me. But I never felt that they tried to cheat me. I don't think kids have that experience today.

Posted by: Quint at December 08, 2019 09:06 AM (n13/j)

349 Don't they teach ANY journalism in those schools anymore?
Posted by: Bill R. at December 08, 2019 09:04 AM (wzzJf)


Nope. They're teaching them their jobs are to CHANGE the world, not report on it.

Posted by: Sponge at December 08, 2019 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)

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Isn't a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign a dog whistle? And itself a symbol of hatred? Hatred for anyone not in their kumbaya camp?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 08, 2019 09:00 AM


you should drive around the more affluent neighborhoods in The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor...lot of hatin' goin' on

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 08, 2019 09:22 AM (DJL/n)

351 Training the technical specialists and officer corps of someone else's military does yield some benefits to the U.S.
Posted by: not so

Fill the KSA slots with Poles,even though they don't have a Navy nor F18s

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2019 09:37 AM (nO72o)

352 Fill the KSA slots with Poles,even though they don't have a Navy nor F18s
Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2019 09:37 AM (nO72o)

When I arrived at Luke AFB, Az in Oct 1980, there were Saudi officers there learning maintenance on F-15's. I soon found out many like going to the strip joint just off base. AND, judging by the number of jobs for Americans on F-15's in KSA, they did not really learn how to maintain their jets.

Posted by: Bill R. at December 08, 2019 09:43 AM (wzzJf)

353 Were it one of mine that was killed by a terrorist I think I would prefer the flag fly proudly at full mast.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at December 08, 2019 09:44 AM (LS1lz)

354 I dont see a picture. And I clicked on every word of your post without finding any links (the iPhone doesnt have HOVER, so no links on ace are visible). Was this just a gag?

Posted by: SpamfRoming at December 08, 2019 01:04 PM (PsMBf)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (12/7/19)

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The Saturday Night Joke


Love is a Many Splendored Thing...


A woman, cranky because her husband was late coming home again, decided to leave a note, saying, "I've had enough and have left you...don't bother coming after me"

Then she hid under the bed to see his reaction.

After a short while, the husband comes home and she could hear him in the kitchen before he comes into the bedroom. She could see him walk towards the dresser and pick up the note.

fter a few minutes, he wrote something on it before picking up the phone and calling someone.

"She's finally gone...yeah I know, about bloody time, I'm coming to see you, put on that sexy French nightie. I love you...can't wait to see you...we'll do all the naughty things you like."

He hung up, grabbed his keys and left.

She heard the car drive off as she came out from under the bed, seething with rage and with tears in her eyes.

She grabbed the note to see what he wrote.

"I can see your feet. We're outta bread; be back in five minutes." H/T CBD

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The drinks are set aside. The Saturday Night Joke has been told. Before we get on with this ONT, let us have a moment of silence for those who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor 78 years ago today.


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I'm quite familiar with Wausau, WI. What is snow good for? Shoveling, plowing, snow balls! Well 2 out of 3 aint bad anymore.

“No person shall throw or shoot any object, arrow, stone, snowball or other missile or projectile, by hand or by any other means, at any other person or at, in or into any building, street, sidewalk, alley, highway, park, playground or other public place within the city,” New Municipal Ordinance in Wausau, Wisconsin.

My disdain for elected officials continues to increase daily.


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The perfect Moron job. Owning your own business, a bar.

IF YOU BUY THE JERSEY Lilly, you’ll own the biggest business in the town of Ingomar, Montana. That’s because it is, in fact, the only business in Ingomar. You’ll also be the town’s 14th resident.

The century-old building has survived two World Wars, the Great Depression, and a fire that nearly wiped Ingomar off the map. Owners June Nygren and Boots Kope will be damned if they have to shutter its doors because no one can pony up the $225,000 for this historic bar. “I’m just hoping somebody will say, ‘You know what, I wanna be away from it all.’ This is a spectacular place to do that,” says Nygren. The nearest town, Forsyth, is “only” 44 miles away. “That’s really close in Montana, trust me.”


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Do you like to decorate for the Holidays? Do you entertain over the Holiday Season? Here's your chance to show off your decorations to your company.

Crafted from four fake Christmas trees, chicken wire, green mesh, and a fog machine, Treezilla -- a smoke-breathing Godzilla tree -- is really something to behold! Its creator, Steven Newland of New Zealand, recently sold it in auction for $415 NZD (approx. $269.58 USD). A bargain!


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Talk about a rough day at work. 21-year-old Sanjay Bahe was doing routine repair work one second and had an iron rod impaling his head the next.

Construction work is a hazardous vocation riddled with potential pitfalls and physical dangers. For 21-year-old Sanjay Bahe from Balaghat, in central India, getting an iron rod pierced through his skull will likely serve as a lifelong reminder of that fact.

According to The Daily Mail, the young man was in the middle of repair work at a construction site when he accidentally fell into a well. That split-second accident resulted in a large iron rod going straight through his head.

90 minute surgery, piece of cake.


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Honesty is the best policy. Fired and sentenced to jail. Yes Virginia, there is a thing called Karma.

She got the government job, and then a jail sentence. Veronica Hilda Theriault of Australia will spend the next year in jail after lying on the resume she submitted to land the role of chief information officer in South Australia's Department of the Premier and Cabinet in 2017, reports CNN. The 46-year-old worked in the role for more than a month, earning $22,500 of what was to be an $185,000 annual salary, before she was fired and charged with deception, dishonesty, and abuse of public office. In district court on Tuesday, Judge Michael Boylan said she'd lied about her education and work history and given "glowing feedback" while posing as a reference for herself. Her brother—awarded a government contract earning him more than $15,000 during Theriault's employment, per PerthNow—had also supplied a false reference for his sister.


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Quite an accomplishment to live to the ripe ages of 88 and 102. Another great accomplishment to release an album.


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I think the majority of us have wished we could say whatever the hell we wanted to say in our job. Something about a filter between the brain and the mouth prevents us. Attorney Christopher Hook doesn't have one of those filters.

Generally, when opposing counsel tells you to “eat a bowl of dicks,” you know that your settlement talks are going nowhere fast. When opposing counsel later informs you that he’s going to “let the long dick of the law f*ck [your client],” then you know that something may be amiss. When opposing counsel then begins to refer to you as a “cumstain” and a “limp dick mother f*cker,” you may realize that your settlement talks have gone completely off the rails. When opposing counsel threatens to “water board each one of [your client’s] trolls who show up for depo without any mercy whatsoever,” and claims that he “know[s] where you live,” you know it’s time to file ex parte with a judge to get some much-needed relief.

This is what happened in a recent dispute between Christopher Hook, a plaintiffs’ lawyer in California, and a legal team at Sheppard Mullin led by partner Peter Klee. The matter itself is a simple insurance dispute over about $200,000, but Hook’s conduct has turned it into a complete circus sideshow. Sheppard Mullin represents Allstate and Hook represents a couple trying to fight the company for an ever-increasing amount of funds, into the millions.

In a declaration supporting Allstate’s ex parte application for relief, Klee says Hook “bombarded” him and his colleagues with “over 100 emails.” Here’s a taste of what went down between Hook and the lawyers at Sheppard Mullin:


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Officially it isn't winter, but it feels like it in many parts of the world. Yes, we've seen this before, but it's a great rerun.


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Midwestern guy hits NYC.


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Photo essay: How Families Eat In The Arctic: From An $18 Box Of Cookies To Polar Bear Stew


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You still have time to get the one of the hottest Christmas presents of this year.

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I wouldn't bet against this Colorado kid being a Florida resident someday.


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THE ONT MUSICAL INTERLUDE



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There are three of them. You can judge who is gold, silver and bronze. Genius Award Winners.

ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. - A 17-year old boy is being charged as an adult for attempted murder after shooting at two men, and hitting one of them, who used fake money to buy marijuana, police said.

Julio Aguirre is being held without bail in Seminole County Jail in connection with the shooting, which happened on Nov. 2 outside Imperial Class Tattoo on State Road 436.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Appreciation.

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. No it wasn't. No one is in the control room tonight.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:00 PM




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1 I made it

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 10:00 PM (ZCEU2)

2 ho ho ho

Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:00 PM (D59ia)

3 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at December 07, 2019 10:00 PM (JFzNN)

4 ahem,

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 10:00 PM (LOq4H)

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Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 10:00 PM (ZCEU2)

6 Good enening y'all!

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (Fjr+q)

7 In before the fix!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (qc+VF)

8 ohhh, centered!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (LOq4H)

9 I'm bored. Entertain me.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (NWiLs)

10 got willowed on the last thread and didn't even get first on this one....shit.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (h1jJh)

11 Called the corgis and my job is finished here.
Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 10:02 PM (ZCEU2)

12 10
got willowed on the last thread and didn't even get first on this one....shit.

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but 10 is 2 in binary so I'll take it.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 07, 2019 10:02 PM (h1jJh)

13 9 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (NWiLs)

Grey on gray & centered is not sufficient entertainment ? !

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:02 PM (Fjr+q)

14 I swear to God the dude in the white car was my husband.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 07, 2019 10:03 PM (dUJdY)

15 Oooo we're centered agin!!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:03 PM (a4qVe)

16 Fucking Formatting.

How does it work?



Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 10:04 PM (S4/r5)

17 Oh MH.. what did you do? Were you bad?

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 07, 2019 10:04 PM (dUJdY)

18 I like it!

Posted by: RickZ at December 07, 2019 10:05 PM (Y8PSl)

19 Learn to code? I dunno.. just spitballing here.

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Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:05 PM (a4qVe)

21 Christmas box!

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:06 PM (G546f)

22 Saturday Night? This is no joking matter!

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:06 PM (Lsu/B)

23 Wow!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:06 PM (Y4EXg)

24 Mrs. E had the Pepper dog lock her out of the truck today. 75 miles from home. Let me be the first to tell you that that bullshit about clicking the unlock on your keyfob next to your cellphone while your pissed-off wife holds her cellphone next to the truck door is bullshit. I had to drive down there to the lease and unlock her truck. I pity the deer that gets in her sights tomorrow, and Pepper if she misbehaves.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2019 10:06 PM (UUkQp)

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13 9 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (NWiLs)

Grey on gray & centered is not sufficient entertainment ? !
Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:02 PM (Fjr+q)

It's a start, I guess.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:06 PM (NWiLs)

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Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:07 PM (NWiLs)

27 Cheribebe.. show off.

Posted by: Jewells45 at December 07, 2019 10:08 PM (dUJdY)

28 Thirst!

and grey everywhere, not just in my hair!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2019 10:08 PM (YOl0X)

29 Saturday night and a little dizzy...

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Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2019 10:08 PM (YOl0X)

31 This is what happens when everyone is pseudonymous!


When morons fight:

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Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at December 07, 2019 10:08 PM (xmKbk)

32 LOL jewells that's as crafty as I get!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:08 PM (a4qVe)

33 Cool gray tone

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Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (YOl0X)

35 I can't go back and read the post yet. I have to see how this graybox drama concludes!

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (Lsu/B)

36 Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:05 PM (a4qVe)

Very nice!

Posted by: hogmartin at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (t+qrx)

37 Funny joke, MisHum & CBD. Ho Ho Ho!

Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (D59ia)

38 Oh, wait. It's not me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (EZebt)

39 Today was Cat-rday! My sister is out of town and both of her cats are here. I had to leave briefly this afternoon and they both gave me the Look: DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW CAT-RDAY WORKS!?!?

The sister will pick them up tomorrow.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (DhSOy)

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Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 10:09 PM (S4/r5)

41 I've shoveled snow in the Sierra Nevadas, Wyoming, Colorado to Maine and New Hampshire. That Colorado snow is light and fluffy compared to that eastern snow with high water content. Suck it up kid, be glad it isn't that east coast stuff.

Posted by: JROD at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (Rs36S)

42 not this shit again. the yoko curse.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (KP5rU)

43 Listening to Iron Maiden tonight.

So are my neighbors

Posted by: random lurker commenter at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (48RE5)

44 Yummy

Posted by: Summer of Love at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (FJrl0)

45 Question about Veronica Hilda Theriault - was she any good at the job of CIO? It doesn't make reference to that in the article.

If you can do the work. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (Y4EXg)

46 Centered we are.
It is the Way.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (axyOa)

47 Actually, I guess *that* is what happens when you comment before reading the post.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (xmKbk)

48 As the grey boxes churn!

Posted Nood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (u82oZ)

49 Oh, who does fox think is watching the Badgers vs Buckeyes? $1699 to LEASE an Aston Martin Vantage, holee fvck!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:10 PM (a4qVe)

50 I'd like to buy the Jersey Lily.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 10:11 PM (yQpMk)

51 9 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (NWiLs)

When my kids would say that, I would put them to work cleaning their rooms.
Be careful what you wish!

Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:11 PM (D59ia)

52 Good evening!

I just got some bad news: my best tenant ever is moving out, to another state. He's a good friend, devout Christian, and the only sober tenant I ever had. Many people locally have depended on him for spiritual support, and we all will be sad to see him go.

I have to get to work making more IRL friends.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at December 07, 2019 10:11 PM (mk9aG)

53 It's the division that begins "Crafted from four fake Christmas trees" - just slap a close-div anywhere after that.

Helpful HTML hints from the Horde for Hassled COBs.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (Lsu/B)

54
If I had 225k to blow on a bar in the middle of nowhere, I wouldn't be blowing it on a bar in the middle of nowhere.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (NWiLs)

55 49: moo moo.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (KP5rU)

56

A cardinal caught recently in central Texas has a rare abnormality that causes it to have female feathers on one side of its body and male on the other.

The Inland Bird Banding Association posted several pictures of the unique bird on its Facebook page.

It says the bird shows apparent bilateral gynandromorphism, which causes the bird to have an ovary and a testis.


https://tinyurl.com/t33zz87

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (aKsyK)

57 Thanks for the ONT.

Common sense snowball control.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 07, 2019 10:13 PM (ycWCI)

58
Clowns Me You Jokers

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:13 PM (NWiLs)

59 @29 San Franpsycho-- You're not at the Red Jack Saloon on Bay Street are you?

Posted by: JROD at December 07, 2019 10:13 PM (Rs36S)

60 fix me fix me fix me fix me fix me fix me fix me fix me

Posted by: Thread at December 07, 2019 10:13 PM (l3+k2)

61 Oh, not a division. A blockquote unclosed.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:13 PM (Lsu/B)

62 Snowball fights are against the law in Wassau? What a bunch of pussies!
What are they going to outlaw next? Boys washing girls' faces with snow? Boys dumping snow down girls' shirts? King of the Hill on snow hills from the plows?
Was this Nanny Bloomberg's idea?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)

63 55 49: moo moo.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (KP5rU)

He's got that under his couch cushions.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:14 PM (NWiLs)

64 I like the new look

Posted by: Pete Seria at December 07, 2019 10:14 PM (7ZQe3)

65 Damnit!!! I like being centered!!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:14 PM (a4qVe)

66 Dogs.........

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (aA3+G)

67 Alas, the center could not hold.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (NWiLs)

68 thank you

Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (l3+k2)

69 $225K for an old building in the middle of Bumfuck, MT?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (oVJmc)

70 So they keep giving away $100,000 to a student during half time of the football games today. They ask the winning student, "How is this going to change your life?". They all say, oh it will remove a huge burden from my family, allow me to go to graduate school, etc.

I need one moron out there to yell, "Hookers and Blow!! Whooooo!!!!"

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (jp0Bv)

71 1/2 fixed.

Not grey, but still centered.

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (Fjr+q)

72 Have their been any substantive updates to the Broward County story where the UPS driver along with one other innocent bystander were shot? I was out all day.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (Y4EXg)

73 We drove around our neighborhood to look at the Christmas lights tonight. It's nice to see houses decorated outdoors with lights.

Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (D59ia)

74 wausau is all kinds of fucked up. always has been. they have all the serious shit fixed. now they can go after snowballs.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:16 PM (KP5rU)

75 Half fixed.

Discerning Compound Problems
Problems are sometimes simple. More often problems are compound and complex, and complicated.
First in a series on perception and awareness.

mindfulwebworks.com/best-of-spirits/discerning-compound-problems

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:16 PM (Lsu/B)

76 The last thread just went full Art Bell.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 10:16 PM (S4/r5)

77 Then all fixed.

Off to read the content.

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (Fjr+q)

78 $225K for an old building in the middle of Bumfuck, MT?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Heh, you also get 1/2 of the county and a Senator!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (LOq4H)

79 72 Have their been any substantive updates to the Broward County story where the UPS driver along with one other innocent bystander were shot? I was out all day.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (Y4EXg)

I guarantee the popo will be tight-lipped on that considering the inevitable wrongful death suits the department will receive.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (NWiLs)

80

Visitors to the Tennessee Aquarium may be shocked to learn that an electric eel named Miguel Wattson is lighting up a Christmas tree.

A special system connected to Miguel's tank enables his shocks to power strands of lights on a nearby tree, according to a news release.

Miguel releases low-voltage blips of electricity when he is trying to find food, aquarist Kimberly Hurt said. That translates to a rapid, dim blinking of the Christmas lights. When he is eating or excited he emits higher voltage shocks which cause bigger flashes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (aKsyK)

81 Good Saturday night joke.

Has anyone pelted the Mayor and city council with snow balls yet?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (Rz2Nc)

82 How long would you have to operate a bar in a town of 14 people to recoup $225,000?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (oVJmc)

83 76 The last thread just went full Art Bell.
Posted by: mikeyG



Just askin' questions?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (DhSOy)

84 Mmmm.... French maid costume...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:18 PM (NWiLs)

85 Uncentering f'd up some fine graphics.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 10:18 PM (LOq4H)

86 Bumf*ck, MT is trendy right now. Several high profile liberals left Chicago for Montana.
I feel bad for Montana.

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:18 PM (a4qVe)

87 >>>"I can see your feet. We're outta bread; be back in five minutes." H/T CBD

hahaha

Posted by: trapper's girl at December 07, 2019 10:18 PM (gYJGA)

88 Geez, Insom, just when I thought I'd forgotten the Bay City Rollers...

Posted by: Brother Cavil at December 07, 2019 10:18 PM (D5yyd)

89 82: In Montana, not that long.

Posted by: Gisela of France at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (J6P5a)

90 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

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https://tinyurl.com/t7z3rzg

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (qAR6u)

91 Where is the Big10 Championship being played? Indianapolis?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (DhSOy)

92 Everybody okay? It was a rough start on the ONT tonight, but we got through it. Whew.

Now I can go read content. Contentedly.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (Lsu/B)

93 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7767337

A firenado was caught on camera as it raged across a 60km stretch of the Australian bush.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (XzVUd)

94 The Wisconsin river runs through Wausau, with lots of rapids. Do they still have the world whitewater canoeing and kayaking championship competitions there?

Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2019 10:20 PM (l3+k2)

95 Montana is Big Sky Country. Beautiful.

Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:20 PM (D59ia)

96 92 Everybody okay? It was a rough start on the ONT tonight, but we got through it. Whew.

Me OK? I'll probably never be OK, but thanks for asking.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:20 PM (NWiLs)

97 The last thread just went full Art Bell.


Nothing makes quite as much economic sense as murdering your customers.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 10:20 PM (yQpMk)

98 I am raising money to name a hotel room after the Unknown Soldier at the National WW2 Museum. $10 helps. If you can donate and share it, I thank you. Click the link to see what Gary Sinise and others have done for the museum.
https://tinyurl.com/uxdqbu8

Pearl Harbor all the way to dropping the Atomic Bomb on Japan to end it all. We can never forget their sacrifice.

Posted by: jeff carter at December 07, 2019 10:21 PM (c73GF)

99 Puddlegum the big 10 championship is being played at Lucas Oil stadium

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:21 PM (a4qVe)

100 82 How long would you have to operate a bar in a town of 14 people to recoup $225,000?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (oVJmc)

#2 weeks

Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:21 PM (D59ia)

101 How long would you have to operate a bar in a town of 14 people to recoup $225,000?

What else are those 14 gonna spend their money on?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 07, 2019 10:21 PM (qc+VF)

102 Hunnerd?

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 07, 2019 10:21 PM (377Zs)

103 WHAT IF
Hitler had skipped Stalingrad, and beaten the Russians to a draw, gotten another " peace " treaty

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:21 PM (G546f)

104 46 -- Diogenes -- And here I thought I was the only one watching The Mandalorian.

P.S. I want my very own The Child for Christmas. Not the game one -- a real one.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at December 07, 2019 10:22 PM (bYyj0)

105 Insom, you're ok. Just a *special* kind of ok

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:22 PM (a4qVe)

106 play the album on the link for the elderly men who made an album of 40's-style songs. it's very good and very witty.

102 years old. remarkable.

Posted by: mjc at December 07, 2019 10:22 PM (Pg+x7)

107 "Photo essay: How Families Eat In The Arctic: From An $18 Box Of Cookies To Polar Bear Stew"

Pretty fascinating. One of the people in one picture is wearing woodland(!) camo pants, might be a Canadian Ranger. They're native volunteers who do... whatever it is the Canadian Forces need done in the frigid north, I guess. It's a part of the Reserves.

Excerpts from the FAQ:

How do I become a Canadian Ranger?
In order to become a Canadian Ranger you must meet the following criteria:
(...)
You must be knowledgeable and personally equipped to survive and efficiently operate on the land.

Will I wear a uniform?
Yes. Canadian Rangers are easily identified by their bright red sweatshirts and red baseball caps or toques.

What equipment will I be given?
All Canadian Rangers are issued a No. 4 Lee Enfield rifle and 200 rounds of .303 ammunition.


https://tinyurl.com/r85n32z

Posted by: hogmartin at December 07, 2019 10:22 PM (t+qrx)

108 72 Have their been any substantive updates to the Broward County story where the UPS driver along with one other innocent bystander were shot? I was out all day.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (Y4EXg)


That was Broward County again?

Sounds like they need some help getting themselves straightened out.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 10:22 PM (87gB3)

109 Gutfeld is AWESOME tonight.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 10:23 PM (S4/r5)

110 Fake, not game. Damn autocucumber.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at December 07, 2019 10:23 PM (bYyj0)

111 How long would you have to operate a bar in a town of 14 people to recoup $225,000?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (oVJmc)


One round, depending on what they buy.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 07, 2019 10:23 PM (t+qrx)

112 Outstanding ONT, Mis Hum! The joke was terrific, and that gif of the woman missing her exit... OMG!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 07, 2019 10:24 PM (fNFgo)

113 41 I've shoveled snow in the Sierra Nevadas, Wyoming, Colorado to Maine and New Hampshire. That Colorado snow is light and fluffy compared to that eastern snow with high water content. Suck it up kid, be glad it isn't that east coast stuff.
Posted by: JROD


Don't get me started on the packed down, extra heavy crap that builds up at the end of your driveway from the snowplow going by.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

114 Banning snowballs?

Leftists fap to banning shit.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:24 PM (qAR6u)

115 I presume the bar gets visits from the cowboys and ranch hands, not just the town residents.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 10:25 PM (yQpMk)

116 Three friends go hunting for deer.
One is a complete lush and passes out by the fire.
So the other two, perturbed friends decide to prank him.
They find the gutpile from the days previous success and lay it in front of the passed out friends face.
In the morning, the bleary-eyed drunk stumbled into the tent
and groaned. "Damn, I got so wasted last night I threw my guts right up, but I found a stick and stuffed them right back down."

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 07, 2019 10:25 PM (2QjP7)

117 It's easier to just hire a seasonal service.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

118 someone please explain the joke I am missing about Yang and the whipped cream and being a plumber

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 07, 2019 10:25 PM (YG34V)

119 More haikus then.

You've brought this on yourselves,

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2019 10:25 PM (LxTcq)

120 also hah
that joke is mean but funny

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:25 PM (G546f)

121 The last thread just went full Art Bell.
Posted by: mikeyG
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Just this week, I heard a woman assert that FDR merely *knew* that the Japs were going to hit Pearl, he *arranged* it. Her daddy told her.

She gets her news only from NPR, and treats their *facts* the same way.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 10:26 PM (elfAG)

122 Have their been any substantive updates to the Broward County story where the UPS driver along with one other innocent bystander were shot? I was out all day.
Posted by: Tonypete

----

I just checked - no news updates in the last 23 hours.

How odd.

If only there were folks that could investigate and report on news-worthy events.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:26 PM (Y4EXg)

123 From Ladyl, in last night's ONT:
The First Noel, sung by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, with the descant.

There has been an official name change: It's now the "Tabernacle Choir At Temple Square" -- aka the TabbyCATS. :-)

Per your request, we'll be singing The First Noel (with the descant) in tomorrow's broadcast: https://tinyurl.com/sf8c84b

It will be in the middle of the program, right after the organ solo.

Merry Christmas!

Posted by: A Tabby Cat at December 07, 2019 10:26 PM (dJs6r)

124 Oh noes!!! Badgers QB sacked

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:26 PM (a4qVe)

125 that FDR merely *knew* that

-----

...that FDR not merely *knew* that...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 10:26 PM (elfAG)

126 45 Question about Veronica Hilda Theriault - was she any good at the job of CIO? It doesn't make reference to that in the article.

If you can do the work. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete


If I read that correctly she put her brother on the payroll. Bidenesque.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:27 PM (+lVUW)

127 Even if State comes back to win this, LSU should be the #1 seed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 10:27 PM (yQpMk)

128 A firenado was caught on camera as it raged across a 60km stretch of the Australian bush.
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (XzVUd)

Probably caused by those sharks wearing lasers in Sharknado: Down Under!

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:27 PM (Fjr+q)

129 82 How long would you have to operate a bar in a town of 14 people to recoup $225,000?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 07, 2019 10:17 PM (oVJmc)

Put out stories that there are UFO's spotted there on a regular basis.

Worked for Marfa, TX

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:27 PM (qAR6u)

130 105 Insom, you're ok. Just a *special* kind of ok

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:22 PM (a4qVe)

"Special." Right.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:28 PM (NWiLs)

131 62 Snowball fights are against the law in Wassau? What a bunch of pussies!
What are they going to outlaw next? Boys washing girls' faces with snow? Boys dumping snow down girls' shirts? King of the Hill on snow hills from the plows?
Was this Nanny Bloomberg's idea?
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:14 PM (+lVUW)

What about nekkid snow angels? That's still legal, yes?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 07, 2019 10:28 PM (jp0Bv)

132 bucky is self destructing again. as usual.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:28 PM (KP5rU)

133 If I read that correctly she put her brother on the payroll. Bidenesque.
Posted by: nerdygirl

---

Jamie Dimon's father was the only employee ever in the history of JPMorganChase that did not report to anyone. Literally, on the org chart, he, the father, was in a box that had no connecting lines.

No one ever said a word.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:29 PM (Y4EXg)

134 Isolated man
A world he can't relate to
He'll never fit in

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:30 PM (NWiLs)

135 HEY! RUDOLPH!

Another chart-topping Temptations release.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:30 PM (Lsu/B)

136 Not yet chavez, they stopped that drive and held them to a field goal.

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:30 PM (a4qVe)

137 What about nekkid snow angels? That's still legal, yes?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 07, 2019 10:28 PM (jp0Bv)

Angels imply an afterlife and icky Christians believe in them. Separation of Church and State.

BANNED!!!!!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:30 PM (qAR6u)

138 A firenado was caught on camera as it raged across a 60km stretch of the Australian bush.
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (XzVUd)

60 km of bush. Yet the '70s seemed a simpler, more innocent time.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 07, 2019 10:31 PM (jp0Bv)

139 Video:
It was fine, I missed the main exit but I could manage.



I cannot tell you how many times on my drive to and from work I've seen people in the right lane decide they are going to get in the left turn lane (or vice versa) and try to cross 3 lanes of traffic and stop in the middle of the street blocking lanes to get across. People just do not pay attention to where they are going

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 07, 2019 10:31 PM (4jtP0)

140 oh boy, just seen on Fox News (and I am quoting as best as I can) "Oceans are losing oxygen due to warming, according to study"

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at December 07, 2019 10:31 PM (YG34V)

141 Clemson headed to 50+

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at December 07, 2019 10:31 PM (377Zs)

142 wausau is turd in the middle of wisconsin i bypass when i'm going somewhere i want to be. haven't stopped there for anything in years.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:32 PM (KP5rU)

143 'No person shall throw or shoot any object, arrow, stone, snowball...'
----
Hell, I got one days lockup in Mother Superior's anteroom for hitting her in the ass with a snowball on the playground and that was 1964. TBH I was aiming for my buddy and he ducked. The frozen missile continued on, to my alternating horror and amusement, striking the old nun's hindquarters.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 07, 2019 10:32 PM (WQZ1O)

144 Joe Biden; "I'm just like you regular folk. I put my pants on one arm at a time."

Oh dude, sit down!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:34 PM (a4qVe)

145 Good evening all.

Thankfully I have never seen driving, nor driven, like that gif. Yikes!

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 10:35 PM (pawKV)

146 Isn't/wasn't Wausau an insurance center. I recall TV ads...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 10:35 PM (jOEDM)

147 these fox analysts are a couple of hacks. they should be in the news wing.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:35 PM (KP5rU)

148 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 10:35 PM (jOEDM)

It was but Liberty Mutual bought out Wausau Ins

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 10:36 PM (aA3+G)

149 Oh, dear lord!!! Not the bilge about Roosevelt knowing in advance about the raid on Pearl Harbor again. And helping arrange it? I ran across a variation on that several years back. Supposedly, Churchill was a co-conspirator in either scenario.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at December 07, 2019 10:37 PM (bYyj0)

150 146; not anymore. think they got swallowed up.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:37 PM (KP5rU)

151 I checked. Ingomar, MT is not one of your nicer places in Montana.

They can keep the bar. I wouldn't take it for free.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:38 PM (7s3Gx)

152 AK #145: Thankfully I have never seen driving, nor driven, like that gif. Yikes!

And got away without a scratch after totalling the trucks.

I think the driver was Bugs Bunny.

No, no, I got it: Mr. Magoo!

I've seen the gif before. The added caption really enhances it.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:39 PM (Lsu/B)

153

A Wisconsin family added a little extra flair to their home's holiday decorations, a Donald Trump flag, and it's gained them some unwanted attention and a threatening letter.

The author writes, "I see from your flag outside you hate America and will do anything to kill it."

The letter goes onto say the family should go back to where they came from. It ends with "get the 'expletive' out."

The Trump flag is still flying outside their home. They refuse it take it down and are standing by their beliefs and their candidate no matter what their neighbor has to say.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:40 PM (aKsyK)

154 Isolated man
A world he can't relate to
He'll never fit in
-----
Isolated man
Unknowingly intertwined
And already "in"

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 10:40 PM (pawKV)

155 No, no, I got it: Mr. Magoo!

Reminds me of Deadpool and Mrs. Magoo.

#driveby

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:41 PM (7s3Gx)

156 I cannot tell you how many times on my drive to and from work I've seen people in the right lane decide they are going to get in the left turn lane (or vice versa) and try to cross 3 lanes of traffic and stop in the middle of the street blocking lanes to get across. People just do not pay attention to where they are going
Posted by: TheQuietMan

---

I get folks don't see the proper exit until the last minute but for heaven's sake, go past it if you can't get there safely. It's not as if you have to drive completely around the planet to try again.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:41 PM (Y4EXg)

157 People just do not pay attention to where they are going
Posted by: TheQuietMan

More importantly, they don't pay attention to where other people are going.

Posted by: Miklos, navigator at December 07, 2019 10:41 PM (QzkSJ)

158 Captain Josepha Sabin #149: Roosevelt knowing in advance... Churchill was a co-conspirator...

That's when they laid the groundwork for the World Trade Centers attack.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:41 PM (Lsu/B)

159
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 10:35 PM (jOEDM)

It was but Liberty Mutual bought out Wausau Ins
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Ah. Found ad, 30 seconds:
https://tinyurl.com/w8rf8p3

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 10:41 PM (CMq2e)

160 I feel for that kud shoveling snow

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:42 PM (G546f)

161 I don't know which of those two guys is the 102 year old but either one would look amazing for 102.

100 is the new 80.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 07, 2019 10:42 PM (2DOZq)

162 You want to try some fun driving? Drive in downtown Chicago. People just step off. The curb without looking. Bicycles appear out of nowhere. It's loads of fun!

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:43 PM (a4qVe)

163
oh boy, just seen on Fox News (and I am quoting as best as I can) "Oceans are losing oxygen due to warming, according to study"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken


Eventually the water will be nothing but salty hydrogen.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:43 PM (aKsyK)

164 been in that part of montana. it is........ forgettable.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

165 Hey everybody.

Tonight I tried a few sips of my brother-in-law's Midnight Moon moonshine, apple pie flavor.

Not bad...

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 07, 2019 10:43 PM (L2ZTs)

166 The author writes, "I see from your flag outside you hate America and will do anything to kill it."

The letter goes onto say the family should go back to where they came from. It ends with "get the 'expletive' out."


The letter writer was probably one of the bastards that got snowballs banned in Waussau.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:44 PM (+lVUW)

167 FWIW: Well polished Wausau granite is a truly beautiful thing to behold. And what are we getting for our headstone? The XO cobbled together a couple of slate tiles he'd engraved with our names and birthdates as examples of his work, and inlaid them into a piece of junk granite.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at December 07, 2019 10:44 PM (bYyj0)

168 72 Have their been any substantive updates to the Broward County story where the UPS driver along with one other innocent bystander were shot? I was out all day.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (Y4EXg)

After what happened at that Texas Twin Peaks, what do you expect here, really?

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 10:44 PM (U7voe)

169 Don't get me started on the packed down, extra heavy crap that builds up at the end of your driveway from the snowplow going by.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:24 PM (+lVUW)

Yeah we have to use M-80's on that shit.

Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (fF2Sv)

170 hi everyonehope you are all doing well
thank you MisHum for a great ONT
apologies to everyone for last night
it's all
full of stars

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (l9m7l)

171 It's loads of fun!

That's why when I lived in the burbs, I usually stayed in the burbs.

That, and driving the interstates around there too often got you subjected to revenue enhancement operations by the city and other burbs.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (7s3Gx)

172 OSU vs UW

I said It was possible but not probable that they would win
At least they aren't being embarrassed
Yet

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (aA3+G)

173 *Marches forward*
*stops 6 paces in front of formation*

Dec 7, 1941, that is all.

*executes hand salute*
*performs about face*
*marches off smartly *

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (+ldAm)

174 The author writes, "I see from your flag outside you hate America and will do anything to kill it."
----
Support for American President is hatred of America?


The letter goes onto say the family should go back to where they came from. It ends with "get the 'expletive' out."
-----
This comes from tolerant people who want open borders?


The Trump flag is still flying outside their home. They refuse it take it down and are standing by their beliefs and their candidate no matter what their neighbor has to say.
------
Good for them, hopefully other neighbors will follow their example.

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (pawKV)

175 oh boy, just seen on Fox News (and I am quoting as best as I can) "Oceans are losing oxygen due to warming, according to study"
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken

Eventually the water will be nothing but salty hydrogen.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:43 PM (aKsyK)

Dang.

Wish I'd said that.

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:46 PM (Fjr+q)

176 concerning that Broward County shootiuy, I heard that cops used cars containng civilians for cover. Is that true? So much for heroes in blue.

Posted by: butch at December 07, 2019 10:46 PM (hXu8T)

177 Wish I'd said that.

Then you'd both be scientifically illiterate.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (7s3Gx)

178 Have a question for the Horde tonight:

What's a 'Karen'? Anyone ever had to deal with one?

From what I can tell, I've had a few bosses who were 'Karen's.

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (L2ZTs)

179 More importantly, they don't pay attention to where other people are going.

Posted by: Miklos, navigator at December 07, 2019 10:41 PM (QzkSJ)


I really don't think they care. The attitude I get from a number of drivers is they are the only person on the road and the hell with everyone else. And I especially love the jerkoffs who will blow past a stop sign on a side street and cut right in front of cars on a main road and then end up driving 10 miles under the speed limit. Thus not only almost causing an accident by ignoring a stop sign but also backing up traffic in a lane

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (4jtP0)

180 ABA STEM, I go downtown to Northwestern for chemo once a week. There are days I need a Xanax after the drive.

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (a4qVe)

181 Yeah we have to use M-80's on that shit.
Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (fF2Sv)

I usually chip away at it, one little chunk at a time, like some kind of ice sculptor

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (G546f)

182 176 concerning that Broward County shootiuy, I heard that cops used cars containng civilians for cover. Is that true? So much for heroes in blue.
Posted by: butch

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From the video I viewed, that is what it looks like.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (Y4EXg)

183 Yeah we have to use M-80's on that shit.
Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (fF2Sv)

I usually chip away at it, one little chunk at a time, like some kind of ice sculptor
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (G546f)

That's what they make rock salt for.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 07, 2019 10:48 PM (2DOZq)

184 Hold on - running to get some rye over here Boss!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:48 PM (Y4EXg)

185 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian


No dog in that fight, but, dang the refs are slow on the whistle for running plays. Almost like they're hoping for the strip.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 10:48 PM (LOq4H)

186 So if you're on the Gulf Coast and you hear the "Sound of Freedom" ?


Remember - it just may be a homicidal , failing Saudi flight school student.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (S4/r5)

187 OSU takes the lead.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (DhSOy)

188 > Seward renamed the bar "Jersey Lilly," after the famously buxom 19th-century British film star.

"19th-century film star"? What?
Also, she spelled her name "Lillie", but The Who also got that one wrong (making it "Lily").

She's been dead since 1929....

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (Juxur)

189 That's what they make rock salt for.
Posted by: Easy Andy at December 07, 2019 10:48 PM (2DOZq)

it's already full of road salt though

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (G546f)

190 There are days I need a Xanax after the drive.

You have my condolences. I no longer deal with it.

Instead, it's chicken on the road with all the Permian basin oilfield traffic in Texas and New Mexico.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (7s3Gx)

191 Back when I lived in La La Land I was just about to enter my exit ramp when some idiot in a minivan cuts me off from the center lane to make that sudden turn. I was going 60 and went into a 4 wheel slide that looked like one of those NASCAR spins. Thankfully there wasn't another car to hit, I had a low slung Firebird, and I went ass end into a dirt berm.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (qAR6u)

192 158 Webworker -- I get nightmares about how the study of history has been co-opted into the proggie narrative.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (bYyj0)

193 okay...

who fucked up the thread?|

it was nice and grey and centered, and NAOW it's this shit.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (YOl0X)

194 DAMNIT!! The zebras in this game are cooking for OSU. Fvckers

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 10:50 PM (a4qVe)

195 92 Everybody okay? It was a rough start on the ONT tonight, but we got through it. Whew.

Now I can go read content. Contentedly.
Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 10:19 PM (Lsu/B)

ISWYDT

Evening mindful

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 10:50 PM (pawKV)

196 Wish I'd said that.

Then you'd both be scientifically illiterate.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (7s3Gx)

The original comment was in regard to oceans losing Oxygen due to globull warming. Scientific literacy was not required.

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2019 10:50 PM (Fjr+q)

197 the brain, of course, the brain

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2019 10:50 PM (l9m7l)

198 Scientific literacy was not required.

Dissolved oxygen, you tards. Not bound.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:51 PM (7s3Gx)

199 Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (YOl0X)

I blame the pup

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 10:51 PM (aA3+G)

200 college ball is as fucked as the nfl. waste of my limited mental resources. same shit, younger thugs. fuck that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (KP5rU)

201 Midwest guy in NYC is hilarious! Do folks in the Big Apple really touch the nether regions of the Wall Street bull? Seriously?

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (fNFgo)

202 176 concerning that Broward County shootiuy, I heard that cops used cars containng civilians for cover. Is that true? So much for heroes in blue.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (Y4EXg)

Broward County Sheriff's Dept: "Live to collect that pension no matter how many civilians get whacked"

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (qAR6u)

203 Back when I lived in La La Land I was just about to
enter my exit ramp when some idiot in a minivan cuts me off from the
center lane to make that sudden turn. I was going 60 and went into a 4
wheel slide that looked like one of those NASCAR spins. Thankfully there
wasn't another car to hit, I had a low slung Firebird, and I went ass
end into a dirt berm.



Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 10:49 PM (qAR6u)

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i was taking the One Oh Worst west to Topanga, back in the day, and 3-4 days a week, i would see the same Fing asshole div across all the lanes from the #1 to get off at the same exit, like it surprised their dumb ass every time.


Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (YOl0X)

204 183 Yeah we have to use M-80's on that shit.
Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 10:45 PM (fF2Sv)

I usually chip away at it, one little chunk at a time, like some kind of ice sculptor
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (G546f)

That's what they make rock salt for.
Posted by: Easy Andy


When it's a foot deep or more, and frozen solid, salt doesn't work so well.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (+lVUW)

205 "Ruperts" - little fake parachuters that were dropped further inland on Normandy to confuse the Germans

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (G546f)

206 Scientific literacy was not required.

Dissolved oxygen, you tards. Not bound.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:51 PM (7s3Gx)


Lighten up Francis. It was a clever take.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (aS1PU)

207 I usually chip away at it, one little chunk at a time, like some kind of ice sculptor
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (G546f)

And if you have a snowblower, you better have some extra shear bolts handy.

Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (fF2Sv)

208 Dissolved oxygen, you tards. Not bound.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy




Wonder how much of the ocean they sampled. BWWAAAHAHAH!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 10:53 PM (LOq4H)

209 It was a clever take.

For vanishingly low levels of clever...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:53 PM (7s3Gx)

210 And if you have a snowblower, you better have some extra shear bolts handy.
Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 10:52 PM (fF2Sv)

I wonder how a chainsaw would work

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (G546f)

211 It was a clever take.

For vanishingly low levels of clever...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:53 PM (7s3G

Dude it was a joke not a scientific statement. WTH?

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (2DOZq)

212

A performance artist on Saturday afternoon ate the piece of art, a banana duct-taped to a wall, that sold Friday for $120,000.

Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan is known for his off-the-wall work. His piece called "The Comedian" was displayed at Miami's prestigious Art Basel art fair.

Gallery representatives told the Miami Herald that performance artist David Dutuna ate the work of art in front of a convention full of art lovers.

Lucien Terras, director of museum relations for Galerie Perrotin, told the Herald, "He did not destroy the art work. The banana is the idea."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (aKsyK)

213 202 176 concerning that Broward County shootiuy, I heard that cops used cars containng civilians for cover. Is that true? So much for heroes in blue.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (Y4EXg)

Broward County Sheriff's Dept: "Live to collect that pension no matter how many civilians get whacked"
Posted by: kbdabear


Are these the same LEO's who hung around outside while that kid was slaughtering fellow students in the high school?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:56 PM (+lVUW)

214 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (NWiLs)

I think Rob Halford's stage outfit in this video would make a kick-ass Halloween costume... For an Ette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVV_HsHcX0

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 10:56 PM (U7voe)

215 A performance artist on Saturday afternoon ate the piece of art, a banana duct-taped to a wall, that sold Friday for $120,000.

Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan is known for his off-the-wall work. His piece called "The Comedian" was displayed at Miami's prestigious Art Basel art fair.

Gallery representatives told the Miami Herald that performance artist David Dutuna ate the work of art in front of a convention full of art lovers.

Lucien Terras, director of museum relations for Galerie Perrotin, told the Herald, "He did not destroy the art work. The banana is the idea."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (aKsyK)


Where's Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy when you need him?

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 07, 2019 10:57 PM (aS1PU)

216 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:01 PM (NWiLs)


Customer at the toy store: "Where are the Terminator action figures?"
Store clerk: "Aisle B, back"

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 11:00 PM (G546f)

217 I just saw a video of PDT congratulating several young people with Down's who had performed a song at a function he was attending. He went over to shake the hands of the performers, and one young man ran straight in for a hug. PDT hugged him and several of the other performers. I'm not crying. You're crying.

Posted by: jmel at December 07, 2019 11:00 PM (OeWgo)

218 > When it's a foot deep or more, and frozen solid, salt doesn't work so well.

Or at all, if it's much below zero F. Calcium chloride ice melt works a lot better, but it's more spendy.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 11:01 PM (Juxur)

219 I wonder how a chainsaw would work
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (G546f)

I am honestly not much of a chainsaw guy above small limbing, say a 14" bar. They're dangerous even in a Pro's hands. The kickback is the issue, and even with chain brakes they can jump hard. No thanks.

Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 11:01 PM (fF2Sv)

220 Are these the same LEO's who hung around outside while that kid was slaughtering fellow students in the high school?

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 07, 2019 10:56 PM (+lVUW)

The very same. The sheriff was claimed as a fucking hero by the media and Camera Hogg.

That was too much for the Coral Gables PD who leaked to the media that it was they who went in while the Broward Cowards ducked behind cars in the parking lot "sheltering in place" and refusing to advance.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 11:02 PM (qAR6u)

221 hmm...flamethrower it is

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 11:02 PM (G546f)

222 I was in a Costco recently and overheard a woman lecturing two children at a water fountain about not wasting water because all the fresh water was used up a few years ago and now all water has to be recycled.

I was momentarily taken aback thinking Costco had started a strange new water recycling program and resolving not to drink their water when I realized the woman was a product of our failed educational system and wondered briefly about giving the children a mini science lesson about the water cycle.

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:02 PM (pawKV)

223 My feets got cold this morning. So cold I felt hypothermic in the rest of me for some hours after. Better now.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 07, 2019 11:03 PM (ykYG2)

224 > I think Rob Halford's stage outfit in this video would make a kick-ass Halloween costume...

Heh... I remember when friends of mine were in denial about Halford being gay.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 11:04 PM (Juxur)

225 boulder t'hobo , Reynaud's syndrome?

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 11:04 PM (G546f)

226 Have their been any substantive updates to the Broward County story where the UPS driver along with one other innocent bystander were shot? I was out all day.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (Y4EXg)



Video of the UPS truck.

Go through local blog
gunfreezone.net
was the top post.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 07, 2019 11:04 PM (1g7ch)

227 Lucien Terras, director of museum relations for Galerie Perrotin, told the Herald, "He did not destroy the art work. The banana is the idea."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (aKsyK)

In Bentonville, Arkansas, one of the Walmart heiresses built a huge museum of American art. She apparently pissed off all the right people on the East Coast and in Europe by being all flyover Jesusland but coming along with more money than all of them and buying up all their shit.

Anyway, most of the museum is really interesting, some great stuff in there-- free admission, too. But at the end in the modern section was an 'exhibition' that consisted of a rectangle, about 10' by 20' of thousands of individually wrapped green candies. A plaque on the wall explained that the artist, who was from San Francisco (because of course he was) had created this... Piece... to commemorate his boyfriend (of course) who had died of AIDS (of course). Viewers were invited to help themselves to a piece. We did not.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:04 PM (U7voe)

228 This isn't a bad 48 hours

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 07, 2019 11:04 PM (PUmDY)

229 221 hmm...flamethrower it is
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 11:02 PM (G546f)

There's the winning idea.

https://tinyurl.com/u6typfc

Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 11:04 PM (fF2Sv)

230 My feets got cold this morning. So cold I felt hypothermic in the rest of me for some hours after. Better now.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 07, 2019 11:03 PM (ykYG2)
* * * *

Glad to hear you are doing better. Stay warm!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 07, 2019 11:05 PM (fNFgo)

231 i would have told that woman she is too stupid to live.

Posted by: trapper's girl at December 07, 2019 11:05 PM (gYJGA)

232
Customer at the toy store: "Where are the Terminator action figures?"
Store clerk: "Aisle B, back"
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 11:00 PM (G546f)

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:05 PM (pawKV)

233 I was in a Costco recently and overheard a woman lecturing two children at a water fountain about not wasting water because all the fresh water was used up a few years ago and now all water has to be recycled.


Most water is recycled. We call it rain.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:05 PM (yQpMk)

234 217 I just saw a video of PDT congratulating several young people with Down's who had performed a song at a function he was attending. He went over to shake the hands of the performers, and one young man ran straight in for a hug. PDT hugged him and several of the other performers. I'm not crying. You're crying.
Posted by: jmel at December 07, 2019 11:00 PM (OeWgo)
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This is awesome - thanks for sharing!

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:06 PM (pawKV)

235 I really do like that Ohio State does seem to have coaches that are capable of making halftime adjustments. Urban was decent at it and so is Day.

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2019 11:07 PM (Z7lwY)

236 Dropping in. I just watched the original Star Trek movie, Where Nomad Has Gone Before. Anyway, today is the 40th anniversary of it's release. How time flies.

Posted by: First Post Today at December 07, 2019 11:07 PM (hkCNq)

237 Thanks Burnt Toast.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:07 PM (Y4EXg)

238 Looked up Reynaud's. Doesn't look like it's even a thing. "Symptoms are your feet and fingers get frostbit when it is cold". Well no sh!t. Also known as, "it's cold so put some socks on".

That is what I should have done this morning.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 07, 2019 11:07 PM (ykYG2)

239 233 I was in a Costco recently and overheard a woman lecturing two children at a water fountain about not wasting water because all the fresh water was used up a few years ago and now all water has to be recycled.

I took an environmental studies elective in 1980 at Wright State University, and learned that we would be out--OUT!!11! of fresh water by 2000.

LOLGF

Posted by: April at December 07, 2019 11:09 PM (OX9vb)

240 (This was originally for the "Things Trump Did To Me" thread)
Every Person Saying Trump Evokes Inner Nausea
Displays Ignorance of Doctrinal Noumenology and Transcendent
Kantian Intuition, Like Liberal
Holistic, Interpretative, Massively Subjective, Extremely Legalistic Formulations.

Posted by: norrin radd, sojourner of the spaceways at December 07, 2019 11:09 PM (8YXYE)

241 238 Looked up Reynaud's. Doesn't look like it's even a thing. "Symptoms are your feet and fingers get frostbit when it is cold". Well no sh!t. Also known as, "it's cold so put some socks on".
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Preferably thick wool socks.

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:10 PM (pawKV)

242 Dropping in. I just watched the original Star Trek
movie, Where Nomad Has Gone Before. Anyway, today is the 40th
anniversary of it's release. How time flies.

Posted by: First Post Today


Can't be, I was 28 when it came out and I won't be 29 till next year.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 11:10 PM (LOq4H)

243 >>concerning that Broward County shootiuy, I heard that cops used cars containng civilians for cover. Is that true? So much for heroes in blue.
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The protocol is 'acceptable civilian casualties'.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 07, 2019 11:10 PM (WQZ1O)

244 Most water is recycled. We call it rain.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:05 PM (yQpMk)

And IIRC , it's illegal in Portland to collect it.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 07, 2019 11:10 PM (2DOZq)

245 yeah, was gonna say gunfreezone.net - not much, but something, on the FL hwy shootout


kbdabear, Coral Springs PD, right, not Coral Gables? Think one of their EMTs was there first, and was first to report his "WTF???" reaction to the deputies hiding behind their cars.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2019 11:11 PM (El6T/)

246

Trump turned me into a newt!

Posted by: 'Nads' Nadler at December 07, 2019 11:11 PM (qul7b)

247 Burnt Toast - please correct me if I am mistaken but, isn't one of the fundamental tenets of safe shooting is to know what is behind what you are shooting at?

That video showing the shot up UPS van shows bullet holes all over the side of the van. It looks like the keystone cops were shooting blindly into the van without any visual on the target inside.

No wonder they killed the driver.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (Y4EXg)

248 And IIRC , it's illegal in Portland to collect it.





Posted by: Easy Andy


State of Washington owns the rain water. Good luck suing for water damage.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (LOq4H)

249 Reynaud's is when your hands and /or feet act as if they're frostbitten even in mildly chilly temp (like indoors).

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (G546f)

250 Recycled water stole my childhood.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (EgshT)

251 norrin radd, sojourner of the spaceways

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nicely done!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:13 PM (Y4EXg)

252
I took an environmental studies elective in 1980 at Wright State University, and learned that we would be out--OUT!!11! of fresh water by 2000.

LOLGF
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Apparently she took the same class and didn't have enough intellectual curiosity to ponder the thought for 2 seconds.

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:13 PM (pawKV)

253 > i would have told that woman she is too stupid to live.

Writer Larry Correia, who lives in Bum Fuck, Utah, and grew up in Bum Fuck, rural California, mentioned to some people at a literary party in NYC that his home county has more cows than people.

One of the literary intelligentsia asked him "What do you do about all the waste?"
"What?"
"Their waste. How does it get to the sewer system?"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 11:13 PM (Juxur)

254 I mean, c'mon, I'm not gonna use a civilian as a human shield just because I can. That's ridiculous, man.

Yeah, I remember using a civilian as a human shield.

Posted by: Rick James, Broward County Police Officer at December 07, 2019 11:14 PM (fF2Sv)

255 That is what I should have done this morning.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo
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Heavy cotton or light wool socks, fleece-lined slippers, around the house.

Here's nice sleeping socks:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxyqc842

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 11:15 PM (dzJ3R)

256 That video showing the shot up UPS van shows bullet holes all over the side of the van. It looks like the keystone cops were shooting blindly into the van without any visual on the target inside.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (Y4EXg)

One of the worst things that's happened since 9/11 is state and local police trying to turn themselves into Discount Delta Force.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:15 PM (U7voe)

257 SOP on a boomer, shoot the hostage first.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 11:16 PM (LOq4H)

258 my apathy for THE ohio state is boundless. fuck them.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:16 PM (KP5rU)

259 "Their waste. How does it get to the sewer system?"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 11:13 PM (Juxur)

I really hope Correia was able to spin a story about huge oversized cow toilets off the cuff.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:17 PM (U7voe)

260 One of the literary intelligentsia asked him "What do you do about all the waste?"
"What?"
"Their waste. How does it get to the sewer system?"


The bovine waste gets recycled. It goes to American universities and the media, which feed it back to us

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 07, 2019 11:17 PM (ykYG2)

261 258 my apathy for THE ohio state is boundless.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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In other words, you don't care about apathy?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:17 PM (Y4EXg)

262 One day, a little ten year-old girl wanted water from a water fountain, and there was no water there.

That little ten-year old girl was me.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 07, 2019 11:17 PM (dzJ3R)

263 O-H!!!

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (Z7lwY)

264 > Apparently she took the same class and didn't have enough intellectual curiosity to ponder the thought for 2 seconds.

Or the economic sense to realize that if all water were being recycled by human technology, the water company wouldn't be selling it so damned cheap.

I believe that in all but the most deserty regions, most of the cost of delivering water actually lies in the pipes and other infrastructure, not in the cost of the raw water as it comes out of the ground.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (Juxur)

265 253 > i would have told that woman she is too stupid to live.

Writer Larry Correia, who lives in Bum Fuck, Utah, and grew up in Bum Fuck, rural California, mentioned to some people at a literary party in NYC that his home county has more cows than people.

One of the literary intelligentsia asked him "What do you do about all the waste?"
"What?"
"Their waste. How does it get to the sewer system?"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2019 11:13 PM (Juxur)

Heaven help us!

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (pawKV)

266 Well, it's been fun as always, but my beauty rest won't sleep itself.. um.. something like that.

☑ teeth brushed
☑ brain exhausted
☑ say goodnight gracie
☑ ZZzzz♠❚❙❙❘❘❘

Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (Lsu/B)

267 Think the "know what's your target and what's beyond" is a general safety rule for recreational/controlled shooting [one of the "4 rules"] - even though in a tactical situation the principle would apply, it's a totally different/variable situation.


A perp firing unanswered/unmolested could be a threat to civilians behind the targeted PD - so stopping him would be protecting civilians [and yourself].


Based on the video, it was a hellish situation. Once all the traffic was stopped, if the perps opened fire, don't know what they could/should have done.


People can Monday-morning-QB this to infinity, but without complete and detailed facts about everything, it's just guessing.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (El6T/)

268 261; don't care about anything.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (KP5rU)

269 I-O!!!

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at December 07, 2019 11:19 PM (EgshT)

270 Posted by: mindful webworker - click at your own ricks at December 07, 2019 11:18 PM (Lsu/B)

Goodnight, Gracie!

Posted by: Linn Ridge at December 07, 2019 11:19 PM (ECrgQ)

271 GO BUCKS!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:20 PM (TdMsT)

272 The bovine waste gets recycled. It goes to American universities and the media, which feed it back to us
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Heh. Funny cuz it's true?

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:21 PM (pawKV)

273 This wouldn't have happened if the Wausau insurance company was still around.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 07, 2019 11:21 PM (r6GXX)

274 256 That video showing the shot up UPS van shows bullet holes all over the side of the van. It looks like the keystone cops were shooting blindly into the van without any visual on the target inside.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (Y4EXg)

One of the worst things that's happened since 9/11 is state and local police trying to turn themselves into Discount Delta Force.
Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:15 PM (U7voe)

Delta Force would never use American civilians as human shields.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 11:21 PM (NWiLs)

275 Thank you Mis Hum. Just now finished reading all the links. What great content for us on a Saturday night.

I was feeling all down in the dumps about how gloomy our weather has been (I think we have seen the sun twice in the past month) and how it's still 2 weeks till the solstice but Mis Hum cheered my right up with the story about the families in the Arctic where they don't even have a sunrise from November till February.

No thanks, and I will quit bitchin'.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 07, 2019 11:22 PM (RfzVr)

276 Delta Force would never use American civilians as human shields.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 11:21 PM (NWiLs)

Hence 'Discount'.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:23 PM (U7voe)

277 A perp firing unanswered/unmolested could be a threat to civilians behind the targeted PD - so stopping him would be protecting civilians [and yourself].

Based on the video, it was a hellish situation. Once all the traffic was stopped, if the perps opened fire, don't know what they could/should have done.

People can Monday-morning-QB this to infinity, but without complete and detailed facts about everything, it's just guessing.

Posted by: rhomboid

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Agreed and I freely admit I know very little about this shit storm. But, I am comfortable stating a few, to me, known facts:

A hostage was under control of the BGs.

The LEO effected a vehicle stop in a crowded, public area.

No specialized LEOs (snipers, negotiators, etc.) were on scene to deal with the stopped van.

As I said, I agree that to comment from my comfy chair is free of all of the pressures experienced by the LEO

BUT - this whole thing sure looks like is was bungled in every way possible. I pray I am proven wrong.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:24 PM (Y4EXg)

278 If I had 225k to blow on a bar in the middle of nowhere, I wouldn't be blowing it on a bar in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (NWiLs)

You'd be safe from the zombie apocalypse there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 11:24 PM (/sgva)

279
Delta Force would never use American civilians as human shields.
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I'm reminded of the graphic showing Israeli soldiers sheltering children vs terrorists placing children in front of them

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:24 PM (pawKV)

280 When I read about rod getting stuck in some guys head, my first thought was Maggie May.

Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 11:26 PM (fF2Sv)

281 278 If I had 225k to blow on a bar in the middle of nowhere, I wouldn't be blowing it on a bar in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 10:12 PM (NWiLs)

You'd be safe from the zombie apocalypse there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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Sir, please contact us. We have a few ideas on the proper expenditure of your funds.

Posted by: Hookers and Blow Union Local #69 at December 07, 2019 11:26 PM (Y4EXg)

282 263 O-H!!!
Posted by: buzzion
269 I-O!!!
Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says...


eyeyeyeyoh

Posted by: freddy mercury at December 07, 2019 11:26 PM (ykYG2)

283 still 2 weeks till the solstice
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Suggested edit: only 2 weeks till the solstice

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:27 PM (pawKV)

284 woody hayes!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:28 PM (KP5rU)

285 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCe0XpcQYWU


Australians estimate 40% of bush fires are set by arsonists. Anyone know the fraction in California?

Posted by: Off the reservation at December 07, 2019 11:29 PM (XzVUd)

286 I'm not crying. You're crying.


Posted by: jmel at December 07, 2019 11:00 PM (OeWgo)

Link?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2019 11:30 PM (wYseH)

287 Posted by: cfo mom at December 07, 2019 11:22 PM (RfzVr)

Glad I could help

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 11:30 PM (aA3+G)

288 OH

Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2019 11:30 PM (AgquG)

289 The Broward County shooting looks like a joint clusterfuck involving several law enforcement agencies, so this one isn't totally on the Broward Cowards.

Nonetheless, it looks like police training nationwide could use some improvements. It also looks like hiring procedures need to be tightened if cops are using civilians as human shields.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (qAR6u)

290 at least ohio state can be the team that will embarrass the big 10 for the nationnal championship this year.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (KP5rU)

291 Way back in the dim dawn of history, back when I was in college, I drove pizza. This was around Ohio State's campus. The pizza store was at the corner of Summit Street and Chittenden Avenue. To get to the south dorms, you'd go west on Chittenden and, at the light at high street, turn left from the middle lane, which put you in the right lane to go down 10th avenue which went past the dorms (Steeb, Smith, Park, Stradley, Siebert, Morrison, Canfield and Mack. I'm astonished I can remember all the names. It's been more than 35 years. I digress.)

One night I was, um, moving right along trying to make the light while it was still green. In front of me, in the right lane, there was a station wagon. He was, as I said, in the right lane, his right turn signal was on, and he was kind of angled to the right and, just as I got there, he made a left turn in front of me. Apparently, he was going to the south dorms, too. As I recall, I missed him, and there was no damage done, but there was a lot of swearing in the event and the immediate aftermath.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (edlKR)

292
Why don't people tell jokes about Jim Jones?
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The punchline is too long.

Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (fF2Sv)

293 I'd buy the bar if I was remotely close to being able to afford it.

Posted by: Surfperch at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (tVQUs)

294 It's oddly relaxing for my beloved Tide to not be in contention for the NC.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:32 PM (yQpMk)

295 288 OH
Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2019 11:30 PM (AgquG)

I-O!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:32 PM (TdMsT)

296 295 288 OH
Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2019 11:30 PM (AgquG)

I-O!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:32 PM (TdMsT)

So off to work we go!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 11:33 PM (NWiLs)

297 One of the worst things that's happened since 9/11 is state and local police trying to turn themselves into Discount Delta Force.
Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:15 PM (U7voe)

Delta Force would never use American civilians as human shields.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 11:21 PM (NWiLs)

Looks to me like they took courses from the Vladimir Putin Hostage Negotiation School.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 11:33 PM (V2Yro)

298 Hang on Sloopy.....

Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2019 11:33 PM (AgquG)

299 Hi, Ladyl! #123, above, is for you...

Posted by: A Tabby Cat at December 07, 2019 11:33 PM (dJs6r)

300 290 at least ohio state can be the team that will embarrass the big 10 for the nationnal championship this year.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (KP5rU)


Sour grapes don't become you, Chavez!

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:34 PM (TdMsT)

301 As I recall, I missed him, and there was no damage done, but there was a lot of swearing in the event and the immediate aftermath.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM

But was the pizza ok?

Posted by: VM's phone at December 07, 2019 11:34 PM (G546f)

302 The punchline is too long.
Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM (fF2Sv)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XqlQWaqFKY

Accept-- "Koolaid"

Yeah I know it wasn't actually Koolaid, but context it doesn't matter.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:34 PM (U7voe)

303 Chase!!!

Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2019 11:34 PM (AgquG)

304 73 We drove around our neighborhood to look at the Christmas lights tonight. It's nice to see houses decorated outdoors with lights.
Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (D59ia)


Saw a report that the man who did a major whole house/yard (including over the street) in one of the neighborhoods died. Major attraction, at least in that part of town. Even some of the neighbors decorated, though not to the same level as this house did.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (qyH+l)

305 290 at least ohio state can be the team that will embarrass the big 10 for the nationnal championship this year.
Posted by: chavez the hugo



Heh! Yep. LSU and Clemson looked fantastic today. OSU will get stomped by either of them. Whose the fourth team that will get creamed buy either LSU or Clemson?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (DhSOy)

306 Looks to me like they took courses from the Vladimir Putin Hostage Negotiation School.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 11:33 PM (V2Yro)

Nyet, comrade. We flood area with sleeping gas, *then* shoot people.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (U7voe)

307 Grump do you think Saban is going to retire soon?

Posted by: Cheribebe at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (a4qVe)

308 Why isn't Wisconsin calling timeout? Conceding?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (yQpMk)

309 294 It's oddly relaxing for my beloved Tide to not be in contention for the NC.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:32 PM (yQpMk)



It can take a little stress off. There are a few years that they put OSU in the playoff that I would have preferred they had just had a regular bowl game instead.

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (Z7lwY)

310 299 Hi, Ladyl! #123, above, is for you...
Posted by: A Tabby Cat at December 07, 2019 11:33 PM (dJs6r)


How nice of you to remember. I'll try to watch. Are you in the choir?

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:35 PM (TdMsT)

311 Grump do you think Saban is going to retire soon?


I've seen nothing to suggest it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:36 PM (yQpMk)

312 301 As I recall, I missed him, and there was no damage done, but there was a lot of swearing in the event and the immediate aftermath.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:31 PM

But was the pizza ok?
Posted by: VM's phone at December 07, 2019 11:34 PM (G546f)

VM : keeping our priorities straight

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:36 PM (pawKV)

313 "A group of Texas Congressional members convened outside the U.S. Capitol on Thursday to stress their support for the United States-Mexico-Canada trade agreement (USMCA).

The bipartisan gathering was led by Ways and Means Committee ranking member, Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX-0, and Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-TX-2. The lawmakers cited the importance of trade for Texas’ economy.

Posted by: Oh Man at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (iEXgF)

314 i have no sour grapes ladyl. i knew bucky would puke at some point. just saying, the big 10 always drops a turd in the punch bowl for a championship. at least it aint harbitch.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (KP5rU)

315 Whose the fourth team that will get creamed buy either LSU or Clemson?


Oklahoma.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (yQpMk)

316 291 Way back in the dim dawn of history, back when I was in college, I drove pizza. This was around Ohio State's campus. The pizza store was at the corner of Summit Street and Chittenden Avenue. To get to the south dorms, you'd go west on Chittenden and, at the light at high street, turn left from the middle lane, which put you in the right lane to go down 10th avenue which went past the dorms (Steeb, Smith, Park, Stradley, Siebert, Morrison, Canfield and Mack. I'm astonished I can remember all the names. It's been more than 35 years. I digress.)

Posted by: Cybersmythe

Baby!

Park Hall, Bradley Hall, Chittenden Ave apartment.

*Cough, cough - more than 45 years.*

Posted by: Hookers and Blow Union Local #69 at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (Y4EXg)

317 Off fun sock - but oddly apropos.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (Y4EXg)

318 222 I was in a Costco recently and overheard a woman lecturing two children at a water fountain about not wasting water because all the fresh water was used up a few years ago and now all water has to be recycled.

Technically, she's correct - river, to ocean, to water vapor, to clouds, to rain, to land, to river.

the system's been up and running for about a billion years, give or take.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 11:38 PM (V2Yro)

319 Then you'd both be scientifically illiterate.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 07, 2019 10:47 PM (7s3Gx)

That's debatable. But it's clear you don't get snark.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 11:38 PM (/sgva)

320 304 73 We drove around our neighborhood to look at the Christmas lights tonight. It's nice to see houses decorated outdoors with lights.
Posted by: ALH at December 07, 2019 10:15 PM (D59ia)

I enjoy seeing the lights. They brighten the long dark winter nights.

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 07, 2019 11:38 PM (pawKV)

321 But was the pizza ok?

Posted by: VM's phone at December 07, 2019 11:34 PM

The pizza was fine, unlike the one I once delivered to Morrill Tower. For that one, I was trying to climb up a grassy hill for some reason and it was muddy and I slipped.

I also recall the time I delivered a pizza to Thurber Village, and I forgot the bottle of soda they'd ordered. When I returned, I took a large step off the top step of an unlit stairway. I was mostly uninjured, but I expect that the customer got a surprise when they opened the bottle.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:39 PM (edlKR)

322 the system's been up and running for about a billion years, give or take.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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And it's going belly up exactly in 2024!

Posted by: Eco tards since forever at December 07, 2019 11:39 PM (Y4EXg)

323
Posted by: Oh Man at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (iEXgF)

The Mexican government corporation that controls the electric power plants is trying to upgrade all their coal plants to natural gas. Trouble is, Pemex burns off all the natural gas that comes out of their wells because they're lazy, corrupt, incompetent chucklefucks. So the Mexicans are now building several large pipelines into Texas to buy gas from the US and Canada. One pipeline was completed about six months ago, and I think more are in the works.

Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:41 PM (U7voe)

324 Posted by: Cybersmythe

Hah, that's about when I was there, too. Worked at a florist, though, not pizza.

Posted by: April at December 07, 2019 11:41 PM (OX9vb)

325 Posted by: Eco tards since forever at December 07, 2019 11:39 PM (Y4EXg)

Beto said 12 yeqrs so 2031

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 11:42 PM (aA3+G)

326

"Park Hall, Bradley Hall, Chittenden Ave apartment. "

Hubby lived in Smith.

Posted by: Tuna at December 07, 2019 11:42 PM (AgquG)

327 324 Posted by: Cybersmythe

Hah, that's about when I was there, too. Worked at a florist, though, not pizza.
Posted by: April

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Worked first at Papa Joe's then the Oar House.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Eco tards since forever at December 07, 2019 11:42 PM (Y4EXg)

328 Damn socks! They stink.

Posted by: Eco tards since forever at December 07, 2019 11:42 PM (Y4EXg)

329 Park Hall, Bradley Hall, Chittenden Ave apartment.

*Cough, cough - more than 45 years.*

Posted by: Hookers and Blow Union Local #69 at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM

Three years I commuted from my parents' place, and one year I lived in the house at the corner of 4th street and 12th avenue.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:42 PM (edlKR)

330 The bar looks quite inviting. But the out houses are a deal breaker for me.

No mention in the article about how much business they really get. I wouldn't be wanting to spend all day at work and only have 2 customers.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 07, 2019 11:43 PM (RfzVr)

331 Clearly, I've had too much to drink.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:43 PM (Y4EXg)

332 314 i have no sour grapes ladyl. i knew bucky would puke at some point. just saying, the big 10 always drops a turd in the punch bowl for a championship. at least it aint harbitch.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:37 PM (KP5rU)


Well the teams they play during regular season are not the toughest teams.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:43 PM (TdMsT)

333 Clearly, I've had too much to drink.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:43 PM (Y4EXg)

That, or not enough. hard to tell.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 07, 2019 11:44 PM (x8Wzq)

334 chucklefucks. the badgers new nickname. thanks. madison sucks ass anyway. bucky always disappoints. the bill kristol of college football.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:44 PM (KP5rU)

335 I wonder how a chainsaw would work
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 10:55 PM (G546f)

I am honestly not much of a chainsaw guy above small limbing, say a 14" bar. They're dangerous even in a Pro's hands. The kickback is the issue, and even with chain brakes they can jump hard. No thanks.
Posted by: jsg at December 07, 2019 11:01 PM (fF2Sv)

I would not use a chainsaw on a frozen snowplow berm. It's bound to have sand and gravel in it, and would wreck the chain in short order.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 11:44 PM (/sgva)

336 Well the teams they play during regular season are not the toughest teams.
Posted by: Ladyl

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Good Day Mad'am!!

Posted by: Father Sheen's Home for Unwed Mothers at December 07, 2019 11:44 PM (Y4EXg)

337 Also. Ice in bourbon? or any whiskey. whisky.

Never.

Ever.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 07, 2019 11:45 PM (x8Wzq)

338 ladyl, for sure.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:46 PM (KP5rU)

339 Looks to me like they took courses from the Vladimir Putin Hostage Negotiation School.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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You've got to the count of three to throw down your weapons. One... *blam* *blam* *blam*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 11:46 PM (dzJ3R)

340 I'm bored. Entertain me.

Posted by: Insomniac
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We did that last week. Go outside and entertain yourself!

(I don't have kids. Did I do that right?)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 07, 2019 11:47 PM (ScWBu)

341 Worked first at Papa Joe's then the Oar House.

Good times, good times.

Posted by: Eco tards since forever at December 07, 2019 11:42 PM

I worked for an outfit called "Grandstand Pizza" that had bought one of the "Great Race Pizza" locations out. I once delivered a pizza to the original Buffalo Wild Wings location, and once we ordered from Papa Joe's. You guys had pasta, you see, and we didn't and one of the bosses was in the mood for spaghetti. He had it delivered to the convenience store next door, though, to avoid any embarrassment.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:47 PM (edlKR)

342 Earlier this week, Pookette got an invitation to a birthday party that was held today. (Side note: The girls in her first grade class are..... not nice.) She was excited and wanted to put it on our calendar, so I had her put a sticker on the date. This morning my husband walked into the kitchen, stopped, and asked me:

"Why is Pusheen eating from a rice bowl on Pearl Harbor Day?"

Whoops.

Posted by: pookysgirl, knitter of bizarre hats at December 07, 2019 11:47 PM (XKZwp)

343 Good Day Mad'am!!
Posted by: Father Sheen's Home for Unwed Mothers at December 07, 2019 11:44 PM (Y4EXg)



I'm confused.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:49 PM (TdMsT)

344 Ohio State has ALWAYS been a second-half team.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:50 PM (TdMsT)

345 I'm confused.
Posted by: Ladyl
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That's normal here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 11:50 PM (f6lTY)

346
344 Ohio State has ALWAYS been a second-half team.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:50 PM (TdMsT)


Not under Tressel

Posted by: buzzion at December 07, 2019 11:51 PM (Z7lwY)

347 i had no idea whoopi goldberg played for the buckeyes. diversity kicks ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 07, 2019 11:51 PM (KP5rU)

348 so you didn't marry her hobo ?

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 07, 2019 11:52 PM (B+t5k)

349 please correct me if I am mistaken but, isn't one of the fundamental tenets of safe shooting is to know what is behind what you are shooting at?

That video showing the shot up UPS van shows bullet holes all over the side of the van. It looks like the keystone cops were shooting blindly into the van without any visual on the target inside.

No wonder they killed the driver.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:12 PM (Y4EXg)


Nevermind the people downrange, they were capping off rounds with people midrange in the cars they were taking cover behind...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 07, 2019 11:52 PM (1g7ch)

350 As yes, Papa Joe's was a fine establishment.

In my day, the men's room had a cut in half water softener tank that was bolted to the wall for use as a urinal.

And a sink. Nothing else.

The ladies room was so bad, and the lines so long, the girls would use the men's room.

At the same time as we were in there.

Oh, they used the sink.

My word as a TonyPete.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:52 PM (Y4EXg)

351 I'm confused.
Posted by: Ladyl

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Father Sheen is taking umbrage at your belittling of his gridiron squad.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:53 PM (Y4EXg)

352
Oh, they used the sink.

My word as a TonyPete.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:52 PM (Y4EXg)


You're thinking of the Castle and the Agora.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:53 PM (TdMsT)

353 My word as a TonyPete.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:52 PM (Y4EXg)

Now THAT'S how to party!

Can't run with the big dogs when you pee like a puppy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 07, 2019 11:54 PM (x8Wzq)

354 One of the worst things that's happened since 9/11 is state and local police trying to turn themselves into Discount Delta Force.
Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:15 PM (U7voe)


Throw in all the free military gear and prestige-o change-o, instant para-military. So a bunch of Starsky and Hutch wanna-bes are now Sergeant Rock.
And when you're the hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 07, 2019 11:55 PM (axyOa)

355 Posted by: Vanya at December 07, 2019 11:41 PM (U7voe)


Those pipe lines are good deal for US.

Thinking the top Rep and Dem top dogs stand side by side on this deal (in public) is a tell on the election and maybe the impeachment.

Posted by: Oh Man at December 07, 2019 11:55 PM (iEXgF)

356 You're thinking of the Castle and the Agora.
Posted by: Ladyl

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The South Berg and Galaxy 2000 were nothing to write home about either.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 11:55 PM (Y4EXg)

357 One curious thing that fortunately occurred at Pearl Harbor was that there were no carriers docked at the time, all were at sea. The heaviest losses were battleships which were becoming obsolete.

The experienced men lost however were much harder to replace quickly.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 07, 2019 11:56 PM (qAR6u)

358 >>>Can't run with the big dogs when you pee like a puppy.

Tell me about it.
Posted by: Izzy, Mis Hum's pup

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 07, 2019 11:57 PM (aA3+G)

359 344 Ohio State has ALWAYS been a second-half team.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:50 PM (TdMsT)

Clearly you missed the 2007 championship game against LSU.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:57 PM (edlKR)

360 I once worked for Skooters Hamburgers.

The best part about working there was a cute coworker, by which I mean she has a cute voice. In retrospect, the only thing cute about it was the way she said Skooter, but that was in just about everything on the menu. She'd get on the speaker thing and confirm a customer's order: "A Skooter with cheese with large Skooter fries and a Skooter shake."

Any other Skooters veterans around here?

Posted by: FireHorse at December 07, 2019 11:57 PM (ScWBu)

361 Any other Skooters veterans around here?
Posted by: FireHorse at December 07, 2019 11:57 PM (ScWBu)

*looks around*
*begins raising hand*

Wait. No.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 07, 2019 11:59 PM (x8Wzq)

362 Sucks.
Posted by: The Fart Whisperer at December 07, 2019 11:59 PM (+cjrd)

Spoken by one who sucks donkey dick.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:00 AM (/sgva)

363 359 344 Ohio State has ALWAYS been a second-half team.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 07, 2019 11:50 PM (TdMsT)

Clearly you missed the 2007 championship game against LSU.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 07, 2019 11:57 PM (edlKR



As I said, not under Tressel.

Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:00 AM (Z7lwY)

364 Go outside and entertain yourself!

(I don't have kids. Did I do that right?)
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Go clean your room! or Wash the dishes! also work.

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 08, 2019 12:00 AM (pawKV)

365 Dollars to donuts that white sedan driver was a Muzzie. Male, female, no matter.

Muzzie.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:01 AM (x8Wzq)

366 Good night grey box friends

Posted by: AK away from home again at December 08, 2019 12:02 AM (pawKV)

367 2019 11:59 PM (+cjrd)

I'm on to you, you stupid goat fucking eater of other people's shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:02 AM (x8Wzq)

368 361 Cool. More mishum brain fart postings. Ace, sure mh gets threads up because he has no life, but what about quality? These links and stupid ramblings from the dumbass mishum. Sucks.


GFY. MIsHum is teh awesome.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 08, 2019 12:02 AM (TdMsT)

369 who be this fart guy? bet he's a needle dick bug fucker with mommy issues. probably sleeps with kurt.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:03 AM (KP5rU)

370 Buckeyes still the best. Wisconsin is better than Oklahoma.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:03 AM (Rz2Nc)

371 310 How nice of you to remember. I'll try to watch. Are you in the choir?

I am, but let's keep that quiet. I wouldn't want anyone to know I hang out in a joint like this after hours.

Posted by: A Tabby Cat at December 08, 2019 12:04 AM (dJs6r)

372 They'll probably give number 1 to LSU or Clemson, since the committee does have such a boner for Clemson, and they never miss a chance to suck off the SEC.

Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:04 AM (Z7lwY)

373 clemson. that is all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:04 AM (KP5rU)

374 God be with you til we meet again.

By His counsels guide, uphold you.

Posted by: Ladyl at December 08, 2019 12:05 AM (TdMsT)

375 smells like someone farted. wasn't me this time.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 08, 2019 12:07 AM (ykYG2)

376 where's brutus?

Posted by: trapper's girl at December 08, 2019 12:08 AM (gYJGA)

377 smells like someone farted. wasn't me this time.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 08, 2019 12:07 AM (ykYG2)

Eric Swallowsall is in da house!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:08 AM (/sgva)

378 Boise State!

Not saying they'll win anything. I just like Boise State.

Although CSU played them really well last week. I had tickets to a loge box thanks to my company. Really good game. Rams played a ranked team really tough, right up till Professor Bobo opted to punt late in the game.

Sails.

Wind.

Gone.

sucks. The CSU kids played so damn tough. Fucking coach just wanted his payout to go fuck up another team.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:09 AM (x8Wzq)

379 +cjrd

Don't like the menu? There a lot of other restaurants in town. Go to one.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 08, 2019 12:09 AM (RfzVr)

380 They'll probably give number 1 to LSU or Clemson, since the committee does have such a boner for Clemson, and they never miss a chance to suck off the SEC.
Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:04 AM (Z7lwY)

It'll be LSU or Ohio State, Clemson is ACC, not SEC. they had easiest schedule so LSU or OSU. Who that put in as four is more interesting. Wisconsin, Georgia, and Alabama would all beat Oklahoma.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:09 AM (Rz2Nc)

381 What's that bottle with the dropper cap in the top photo? Angostura bitters?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:09 AM (/sgva)

382 if i farted, there would be nobody here.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:10 AM (KP5rU)

383 anyone watching the Binky series ?

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:11 AM (B+t5k)

384 4 anyone watching the Binky series ?
Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:11 AM (B+t5k)

*begins raising hand*

*looks around*

No.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:11 AM (x8Wzq)

385 anyone watching the Binky series ?

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:11 AM

What? Project Binky? The car project?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:12 AM (edlKR)

386 384 anyone watching the Binky series ?
Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:11 AM (B+t5k)

What the heck is that?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:12 AM (Rz2Nc)

387 what the fuck is binky? sounds limey. or, preschool.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:13 AM (KP5rU)

388 Project Binky

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:13 AM (B+t5k)

389 GFY. MIsHum is teh awesome.

Posted by: Ladyl
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Second. (Abbrev, spelling -- everything.)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:14 AM (ScWBu)

390 What? Project Binky? The car project?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:12 AM

Never heard of it.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:14 AM (edlKR)

391 It is limey

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:14 AM (B+t5k)

392 what the fuck is binky? sounds limey. or, preschool.

Posted by: chavez the hugo
________

Binky? Forget binky. What in the hell is a Mandalorian? Isn't that a tiny orange?

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:16 AM (ScWBu)

393 Project Binky.

Is that the segment in The Simpsons where Maggie and all the other toddlers rescue their pacifiers from the closet in the Ayn Rand Daycare?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:16 AM (x8Wzq)

394 i don't watch foriegn language shit at my age, guvnor.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:16 AM (KP5rU)

395 Immona just say, No. Nobody has heard of project Binky.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:17 AM (x8Wzq)

396 ok bye.

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (B+t5k)

397 I am very confused by this thread. Is it supposed to be related to comedy, sports, politics, or potty talk? Way up the line, there even was talk on Star Trek 1. Can you straighten me out?


Btw. Ricardo Montalban saved the Star Trek franchise as Khan.

Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (9YABs)

398 mandalorian was that shit heap car from back to the future i think.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (KP5rU)

399 Is that the segment in The Simpsons where Maggie and all the other toddlers rescue their pacifiers from the closet in the Ayn Rand Daycare?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:16 AM (x8Wzq)

I loved the Great Escape parody they did with that, music and all.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (qAR6u)

400 ok bye.

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM

Aw c'mon the joke wasn't THAT bad!

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (edlKR)

401 398 I am very confused by this thread. Is it supposed to be related to comedy, sports, politics, or potty talk?


Yes.

Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:19 AM (Z7lwY)

402 Nobody talks potty like the Horde talks potty!

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2019 12:19 AM (L2ZTs)

403 397 ok bye.
Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (B+t5k)

Aw, don't run away. We're just fucking with you.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:20 AM (x8Wzq)

404 398 I am very confused by this thread. Is it supposed to be related to comedy, sports, politics, or potty talk? Way up the line, there even was talk on Star Trek 1. Can you straighten me out?

Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (9YABs)

Any thread that lasts over an hour becomes a gun thread or a boobs thread. Long tradition here

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:20 AM (qAR6u)

405 By the way, Trump is going to be IMPEACHED!!!!! I don't want it but it has to be done because . . .

. . . is it still the Ukraine thing or is it something else? Seriously, I didn't any memos at all for a week. Its still the telephone call with the Ukrainian guy, right?

Posted by: WaterCow at December 08, 2019 12:20 AM (ScWBu)

406 is all good, just out of beer. beer run. anybody need anything ?

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:21 AM (B+t5k)

407 Regular weekend troll licks dog dick
Thanks folks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2019 12:21 AM (aA3+G)

408 aw fuck, not this manatee shit again.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:21 AM (KP5rU)

409 What in the hell is a Mandalorian? Isn't that a tiny orange?
Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:16 AM (ScWBu)

That's a Guacamolian.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (/sgva)

410 is all good, just out of beer. beer run. anybody need anything ?

Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:21 AM

I could use eternal youth and ultimate happiness. You know, the usual.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (edlKR)

411 By the way, Trump is going to be IMPEACHED!!!!! I don't want it but it has to be done because . . .

. . . is it still the Ukraine thing or is it something else? Seriously, I didn't any memos at all for a week. Its still the telephone call with the Ukrainian guy, right?
Posted by: WaterCow at December 08, 2019 12:20 AM (ScWBu)

No , the fat guy Nader can read Trump's mind now. Although nothing he did or said was illegal, when you read his his mind it was.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (Rz2Nc)

412
I am very confused by this thread. Is it supposed to be related to
comedy, sports, politics, or potty talk? Way up the line, there even
was talk on Star Trek 1. Can you straighten me out?





Btw. Ricardo Montalban saved the Star Trek franchise as Khan.

Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (9YABs)

----it's the ONT: no other reason need be given...

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (YOl0X)

413 Any thread that lasts over an hour becomes a gun thread or a boobs thread. Long tradition here

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:20 AM (qAR6u)

However, I have no memory of a boob gun thread

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (qAR6u)

414 **TOP FIVE LEAST POPULAR CANDIES IN 2019**

5. Rosie O'Donnell's Blue Raspberry Suckers

4. "Surprise Anal Sours"

3. Something called "Seaman's Taffy"

2. Adam Schiff-head lollipops

1. "Carny Corn"

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (L2ZTs)

415 Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:18 AM (9YABs)

first rule of the ONT:

None of this makes a fucking lick of sense. You just dive in and dunk the others under. Ruthless.

Stoopidest comment wins.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM (x8Wzq)

416 i could go for a half dozen krispy kremes.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:23 AM (KP5rU)

417 Nobody talks potty like the Horde talks potty!
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2019 12:19 AM (L2ZTs)

Ok, I need to go piss, smoke, and make another drink.

How's your day going?

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:24 AM (Rz2Nc)

418 Regular weekend troll licks dog dick
Thanks folks
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2019 12:21 AM (aA3+G)

Seems to just drop one turd, and then leaves. He might be a constipated mathematician, and has to work it out with a pencil.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:24 AM (/sgva)

419 Evasive, pretty good.
Any day I get free pizza is a good day. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2019 12:24 AM (L2ZTs)

420 Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 07, 2019 11:52 PM (B+t5k)

I was mainly confused about whom I was supposed to be marrying, if I'm the hobo in question. Did I propose to someone without knowing it? I hope she wasn't Lena

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 08, 2019 12:24 AM (ykYG2)

421 . . . it has to be done because . . .

Dear, dear, WaterCow. You know why it has to be done! You know, I know, we *all* know, and it's because:

The dems lost their Binky in 2016! Right?

There. Solved the mystery of Project Binky, too!

Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2019 12:25 AM (gP/Z3)

422 Sorry MisHum, but I think WeirdDave had the better stalker troll asshole than you.

Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:25 AM (Z7lwY)

423 No , the fat guy Nader can read Trump's mind now. Although nothing he did or said was illegal, when you read his mind it was.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42
________

When you say "he" do you mean Trump or Nader? Because Trump made a telephone call and committed QUID PRO QUO!!!!! That's the worst crime ever in the history of ever!!!!!!

The other guy was into stuff like child prnography but the fbi cant prove that he intended to commit a crime so its ok so I assume you mean TRUNP!!!

Posted by: WaterCow at December 08, 2019 12:27 AM (ScWBu)

424 **TOP FIVE LEAST POPULAR CANDIES IN 2019**

Otter Pops

Table Gum

Circus Peanuts

River Pebbles

That fuzzy bolus that Aunt Tilly just handed me from her enormous purse.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:27 AM (x8Wzq)

425 If there had been carriers docked at Pearl on 12/7/41 then Midway would sure have taken a lot longer to happen if at all.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:28 AM (qAR6u)

426 Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:25 AM (Z7lwY)

Really don't know about hos troll
Mine comes out during the weekend and leaves

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2019 12:31 AM (aA3+G)

427 is all good, just out of beer. beer run. anybody need anything ?
Posted by: Jasper Moore at December 08, 2019 12:21 AM (B+t5k)

*shoves a bunch of loose change from Old Europe through USB port*

Get me a half pint of Evan Williams.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (x8Wzq)

428 If stupid comments win threads, the Dems and MSM will win every time. Right Trolls?

Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (9YABs)

429 Hmm. Least popular candies. Hmm.

Grandma used to keep these in a candy dish in her parlor:

preview.tinyurl.com/uvvexko

Posted by: JQ at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (gP/Z3)

430 426; i still think we would have found a way. we still had cotton hill and guys like him.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (KP5rU)

431 Evasive, pretty good.
Any day I get free pizza is a good day. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 08, 2019 12:24 AM (L2ZTs)

Great, yes, I could use a fee pizza.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (Rz2Nc)

432 "Angus, ye got to talk to Jock about the birds & the bees! He's not a wee lad anymore. He's all grown up & ye've got ta do it!"

"Alright, alright. I'll talk to him tonight."

"Jock, ye kin them two birds we was chattin' up at the pub last Saturday night?"

"Ay, Da."

"And ye kin how after closing time. we took 'em out back & screwed 'em up against the wall in the parking lot?"

"Ay, Da."

"Well... your Ma would have ye kin that the birds and bees do it pretty much the same."

Posted by: mnw at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (Cssks)

433 Mister, we could use a man like Ricardo Montalban again.

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2019 12:33 AM (RuIsu)

434 If stupid comments win threads, the Dems and MSM will win every time. Right Trolls?

Posted by: Ranger Gord
________

That's the plan! And, of coarse, the news media. Can I count you as on board?

Posted by: WaterCow at December 08, 2019 12:34 AM (ScWBu)

435 Slept through the Chess thread and missed the Nazi name-dropping. Crap. And I know what a Beppo is (and a Priller). I guess I'll save my Assman reference for another time.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 08, 2019 12:34 AM (KAi1n)

436 If there had been carriers docked at Pearl on 12/7/41 then Midway would sure have taken a lot longer to happen if at all.
Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:28 AM (qAR6u)

Right? What a sobering thought. Chilling, even.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:35 AM (x8Wzq)

437 "Well... your Ma would have ye kin that the birds and bees do it pretty much the same."
Posted by: mnw at December 08, 2019 12:32 AM (Cssks)

LOL!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:35 AM (/sgva)

438 When you say "he" do you mean Trump or Nader? Because Trump made a telephone call and committed QUID PRO QUO!!!!! That's the worst crime ever in the history of ever!!!!!!

The other guy was into stuff like child prnography but the fbi cant prove that he intended to commit a crime so its ok so I assume you mean TRUNP!!!
Posted by: WaterCow at December 08, 2019 12:27 AM (ScWBu)

Lol, I'm pretty certain you, Nader, and Schiff triple up on young boys.,I wish I had a fire horse to stop it.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:35 AM (Rz2Nc)

439 By His counsels guide, uphold you.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 08, 2019 12:05 AM (TdMsT)


With His sheep securely fold you;
God be with you till we meet again.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2019 12:37 AM (87gB3)

440 Mister, we could use a man like Ricardo Montalban again.
Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2019 12:33 AM (RuIsu)

"rrreal Corrrinthian leatherrr"

(just practicing)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:37 AM (/sgva)

441 427 Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:25 AM (Z7lwY)

Really don't know about hos troll
Mine comes out during the weekend and leaves

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2019 12:31 AM (aA3+G)



Its been a while since he was around and bitching about Dave's posts.

Posted by: buzzion at December 08, 2019 12:38 AM (Z7lwY)

442 Apparently, I've been up late enough, and the wife needs me because she's cold.

Goodnight all!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:39 AM (Rz2Nc)

443 If there had been carriers docked at Pearl on 12/7/41 then Midway would sure have taken a lot longer to happen if at all.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:28 AM

I'm not sure I grasp your point. The whole point of the battle of Midway, from Japan's perspective, was to lay a trap to destroy the aircraft carriers that they didn't manage to destroy in the raid on Pearl Harbor. If the carriers had been docked on December 7, there would have been no battle of Midway, nor an invasion of the Aleutians.

In Neptune's Inferno[/a] Hornfischer argues (I think persuasively) That the real problem in 1942-1943 was there wasn't enough fuel to go around.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:39 AM (edlKR)

444 Crap

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:39 AM (edlKR)

445 Goodnight all!
Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:39 AM (Rz2Nc)

good night.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:40 AM (x8Wzq)

446 Also. Ice in bourbon? or any whiskey. whisky.

Never.

Ever.

Posted by: Pug Mahon
________

If you want it cold, then put the glass in the freezer. Geez, we have technology and machines, and people . . .

. . . know what? If people want to ruin their drinks, then fine. This is America. I had a bad frozen pizza for dinner last night and enjoyed it. Far be it for me to judge someone who wants a hooch-rocks. If a free market favors Bud Light, then there ya go.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:40 AM (ScWBu)

447 I am ridiculously tired and not feeling good about, well, anything, so I'm off to bed. 'Night everyone.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 08, 2019 12:42 AM (NWiLs)

448 Speaking of events from the end of 1941, I read somewhere (an article in Mayfair magazine, actually) that the commander in charge of the forces defending Java from the Japanese sent the signal "Sacrifice is necessary for the defense of Java" but I haven't been able to find any other source for that. Does anyone know anything about it?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:43 AM (edlKR)

449 Night, Insomniac.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:44 AM (/sgva)

450 I am ridiculously tired and not feeling good about, well, anything, so I'm off to bed. 'Night everyone.

Posted by: Insomniac
________

Good night, Insom. Happy 12/8 -- the anniversary of the greatest day in British history.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:44 AM (ScWBu)

451 More devastating than the attack on Pearl Harbor was the attack on Clark Army Air Base in the Philippines. Wiped out most of our air fleet and the base was overrun and used by the Japs until liberated in 1945.

You want to see hate, ask an old Filipino what he thinks of the Japanese.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 12:47 AM (qAR6u)

452 Is everybody putting a head on their drinks or did I kill the thread?

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:47 AM (ScWBu)

453 Mike Hammer, How did the vet visit go? Thinking of you and your little one.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 08, 2019 12:48 AM (7EjX1)

454 cybersmythe - check out "the fleet the gods forgot." IIRC, it was written by a USS Houston survivor.

Posted by: butch at December 08, 2019 12:51 AM (hXu8T)

455 Japan didn't fail because there were no carrier forces for them to bomb n' torpedo at Pearl.

Japan failed because they didn't attack the repair docks and fuel tank-farms at Pearl Harbor.

You go on and read the accounts of how MANY hulls those repair yards got up and under their own steam in VERY short order, and how many ships could sail with full bunkers because of that fuel.

Midway was the "visual" momentum shift in the Pacific War.

The actual momentum shift was that Pearl Harbor was UP and RUNNING in the Getting Ships Back to Sea business, at least a YEAR before they "should've been".

All thanks to that Japanese failure to launch a 3rd wave.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 12:51 AM (QzJWU)

456 Alberta Oil Peon, with us being fellow Canadians, wtf is wrong with Justin Trudeau? He just lost a ton of jobs and he is gossiping with Macron about Trump?

Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:52 AM (9YABs)

457 You want to see hate, ask an old Filipino what he thinks of the Japanese.

Posted by: kbdabear
________

Worked with a Chinese chap recently. He was open about his hatred about the Japanese. Funny thing is that he was in his 20s. But you know the Chinese -- they remember everything. I mentioned "Camp 731" and he knew what I was talking about. So yeah, the Japanese did some seriously bad stuff and the world remembers.

On the flip side of this particular pancake, there are some cute Japanese girls on You Tube who are into 80s metal and can play the guitar parts extraordinarily well.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:53 AM (ScWBu)

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 12:55 AM (1glZx)

459 Mike Hammer, How did the vet visit go? Thinking of you and your little one.
Posted by: Mrs. JTB
---------

Not good, not good at all. My confidence in Vets is diminished considerably. After two nights at the hospital, they had me pick her up this evening. She seems worse than when I took her, though the Vets were confident that she is better.

She's asleep by me on the sofa, but I don't think she can even walk. I'm between angry, and frustrated. I'm beginning to think that I never should have even taken her to the Vet. Put her through a lot of discomfort, with seeming bad results.

Thanks for asking. All of those with long-term pets know how awful it is to feel helpless, when you're the one that they depend on. Heavy heart here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 12:56 AM (CMq2e)

460 Alberta Oil Peon, with us being fellow Canadians, wtf is wrong with Justin Trudeau? He just lost a ton of jobs and he is gossiping with Macron about Trump?
Posted by: Ranger Gord at December 08, 2019 12:52 AM (9YABs)

Well, he's an idiot, so that helps. And most of the jobs were lost in the West, so they don't matter to him.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:56 AM (/sgva)

461 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 12:56 AM (CMq2e)

I've been in your shoes, my heart goes out for you and your special family member

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 08, 2019 12:58 AM (aA3+G)

462 Dollars to donuts that white sedan driver was a Muzzie. Male, female, no matter.


Muzzie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Movie Cricket at December 08, 2019 12:01 AM (x8Wzq)


I have dealt with a number of Asian drivers . . .

A friend of a friend is an older Korean woman who drives a white, late model Accura. She parks diagonally across two parking spots. Every. Time.

I pointed out once that this was how stereotypes get started.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 12:58 AM (1glZx)

463 Jim - Last night I posted that link to the ex-LEO Crown Vic, but...I thought sure you would comment on the plate. Did you notice?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 12:58 AM (CMq2e)

464 459

Posted by: Kindltot
________

Now I know I'm in the doldrums. I feel more than responsible. I feel culpable.

Perhaps I can right this wrong.

Perhaps I'm somewhat of a narcissist who thinks everything is about me.

(Nah, it's the second one.)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 12:59 AM (ScWBu)

465
Apparently, I've been up late enough, and the wife needs me because she's cold.



Goodnight all!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at December 08, 2019 12:39 AM (Rz2Nc)

---
not even that's true at my house.i shed BTUs like a ChiCom coal fired steam plant, but there's no susceptible inputs... pull the other one.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 08, 2019 01:00 AM (YOl0X)

466 What's that bottle with the dropper cap in the top photo? Angostura bitters?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:09 AM (/sgva)


It holds the vermouth for when they decide to have martinis instead

Posted by: Kindltot at December 08, 2019 01:00 AM (1glZx)

467 I've been in your shoes, my heart goes out for you and your special family member
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
-------
Not my first time, but this one's been special. Hard, really hard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 01:00 AM (CMq2e)

468 All of those with long-term pets know how awful it is to feel helpless, when you're the one that they depend on. Heavy heart here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
________

Complete, total, absolute empathy here.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 01:01 AM (ScWBu)

469
More devastating than the attack on Pearl Harbor was the attack on Clark Army Air Base in the Philippines.

Mount Pinatubo did a number on it too!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2019 01:02 AM (aKsyK)

470 I'm not sure I grasp your point. The whole point of the battle of Midway, from Japan's perspective, was to lay a trap to destroy the aircraft carriers that they didn't manage to destroy in the raid on Pearl Harbor. If the carriers had been docked on December 7, there would have been no battle of Midway, nor an invasion of the Aleutians.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 08, 2019 12:39 AM (edlKR)

Had the Enterprise, Saratoga, and Lexington been at Pearl, Adm King probably would have told FDR "we might be truly fucked, Mr President".

Incredibly, the Japanese ignored the oil tanks, navy yard, and submarine base, thinking that the destruction of the battleships would have set us back too far to recover before they would matter.

Even with the battleships, only the Arizona, Oklahoma, and Utah (which was only a training ship anyway) were total losses. The Tennessee and Maryland were back in service in 2 months, Nevada in 10 months, the Pennsylvania was quickly repaired and stayed in service. The California and West Virginia weren't back until 1944.

There were only 3 cruisers hit, the Honolulu was only lightly damaged, the Raleigh and Helena were back in 2 months.

4 destroyers were hit, Cassin and Downes took 2 years to repair, Shaw was out 6 months, and Helm continued service.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:02 AM (qAR6u)

471 ..Jim - Last night I posted that link to the ex-LEO Crown Vic, but...I thought sure you would comment on the plate. Did you notice?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 12:58 AM (CMq2e)



I did, and at length. But about the car, and not the plate.

*Want* the car.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:03 AM (QzJWU)

472 Mike. So very sorry to read your report. Prayers for your family at this difficult time.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 08, 2019 01:03 AM (7EjX1)

473 Not my first time, but this one's been special. Hard, really hard.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 08, 2019 01:00 AM (CMq2e)

I hope your vet is right, and that the little one rallies and gets better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 01:05 AM (/sgva)

474 kbdabear @ 471 --

You didn't mention the Mississippi. It wasn't at Pearl Harbor, but CATS!!

https://tinyurl.com/urh67bk

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 01:08 AM (ScWBu)

475 Mike Hammer.

I've build the wee coffins through torrents of tears.

Hold out your glass, amigo. No, the bigger glass.

Got some Bourbon headed your way.

It's so we can drink too much, blabber n' blubber n' tell tales about wagging tails.

Empathy?

BROTHERHOOD.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:08 AM (QzJWU)

476 Mike Hammer - sorry for the trial you and your girl are undergoing. I can relate to it. Hope you being home, together, will be make things easier.

Posted by: cfo mom at December 08, 2019 01:09 AM (RfzVr)

477 -- hang on --

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 01:09 AM (ScWBu)

478 Mike Hammer & Jim in Galveston --

*clinks glass to screen*

dammit. Get better, little guy.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 01:11 AM (ScWBu)

479 Will repeat a reco, as it's relevant here, to read the Pearl Harbor book by Alan Zimm - Attack on Pearl Harbor: Strategy, Combat, Myths, Deceptions.


He does a pretty thorough analysis of some the points being discussed tonight, and it might change some views.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2019 01:14 AM (El6T/)

480 Reminds me, our departed rickl's dad was one of the little figures going down a rope off the flight deck in photos of the Lexington as she is abandoned in the Battle of the Coral Sea.


Here's to our rickl, and his dad.


Posted by: rhomboid at December 08, 2019 01:17 AM (El6T/)

481 I really don't think they care. The attitude I get from a number of drivers is they are the only person on the road and the hell with everyone else. And I especially love the jerkoffs who will blow past a stop sign on a side street and cut right in front of cars on a main road and then end up driving 10 miles under the speed limit. Thus not only almost causing an accident by ignoring a stop sign but also backing up traffic in a lane
Posted by: TheQuietMan


* turns off blinker that's been on for last 4 miles, pulls into driveway, takes off old guy hat.


Posted by: Old guy driving instructor at December 08, 2019 01:18 AM (QtGXX)

482 On December 8, 1941 Germany declared war on America. Many in the German high command wondered why he did so without demanding a Japanese declaration of war on the Soviet Union. Hitler probably didn't think it necessary or didn't want to owe the Japs anything. The Germans were only 40 miles from Moscow at the time.

Also on December 8, 1941 Japan invaded the Malay Peninsula which climaxed with the Fall of Singapore and the surrender of 30,000 British troops. That seemed to hammer Churchill much worse than the Fall of Dunkirk.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:21 AM (qAR6u)

483 Have you looked at the air traffic over China lately? Holy crap!

Posted by: klaftern at December 08, 2019 01:24 AM (RuIsu)

484 Mike, prayers for your furry family member. Hope she pulls through. One of the ONT members lost a kitty during the thread a few weeks ago.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:26 AM (qAR6u)

485 WWII was a far more close-run thing than many might realize.

We spent a LOT of lives to buy time, while back against the ropes.

Here's one lesson that's not taught.

Everyone laughs at the Old Guys in uniform and bearing ancient arms in defense of the switching yard or Pier Fourteen.

That Old Guy is me now, and many of us here.

We're so fucking pissed at our own INTERNAL enemies, that a FOREIGN enemy would be a Feast of Vengence by Proxy.

The Dems are praying even now that we endure a Foreign Attack.

It is the only thing that'll keep us from their electoral throats in the year to come.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:30 AM (QzJWU)

486 Well, time for me to call it night. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 01:34 AM (/sgva)

487
Hello, everyone. I just saw Ford vs Ferrari. It was okay, not great, but okay.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 08, 2019 01:34 AM (13CQC)

488 And I especially love the jerkoffs who will blow past a stop sign on a side street and cut right in front of cars on a main road and then end up driving 10 miles under the speed limit. Thus not only almost causing an accident by ignoring a stop sign but also backing up traffic in a lane

Posted by: TheQuietMan

I used to ride the back bumper of asswipes who did that.

What boils me now are bicyclists who take stop signs as a suggestion and not a law. I damn near hit one who blew through a roundabout without even looking or slowing down.

But ohhhh, we have to spend shitloads of money for "multimodal lanes" because bicyclists are getting mangled by cars. Everyone knows bicycles are an anointed caste who are saving Mother Earth.

Again, unless you're a child, lost your license, or are too broke to afford a car, leave your bicycling to parks. And don't run over pedestrians.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:34 AM (qAR6u)

489 History buffs, I'm seeing some really great videos out on Ulysses S. Grant. He was not just an excellent commander, but also and excellent human being, who got bad reviews with selfish people who had an axe to grind or greedy ambition by much lesser men. An exceptional man to take ones hat off to.
General Petraeus does some excellent videos of Grant too !

Posted by: ron n. at December 08, 2019 01:36 AM (3qP6l)

490 . . . and it might change some views.

Posted by: rhomboid
________

It was all before my time. My views and practices are as follows:

On November 11, I remember the last person in my family lost to a war. It was my grandmother's brother. He was an immigrant from Russian-occupied Lithuania who signed up to fight in WWI. Like a lot of people at the time, his personal mission was two-fold: (1) service to his new country, and (2) giving a chance to the people in Europe he left behind.

That was the war to end all wars. In my mind, I pretend that to be true. After remembering a great uncle I never met, I think of 11/11 as the beginning of the Days of Peace. I get into Thanksgiving and start thinking about Christmas, and when the Insufferable Politics Coworker starts spewing about issues of war and peace, I remain silent.

The Days of Peace end on 12/7. Peace, however preferable, is not the natural state of humanity. That's when I stop thinking about my great uncle and start thinking about my Dad who enlisted in the Navy when he was 18. Then I start thinking about what a fuck-up that I was at 18. Wow.

Starting 12/7, I shed my tolerance for Insufferable Peaceniks and think of Pearl Harbor, Okinawa, Pusan and the World Trade Center. I thing of the foreign enemies of this great country and think FUCK THEM! Then my thoughts turn to the domestic enemies of this great country and think FUCK THEM THRICE! as I wonder how someone could be lucky enough to be here, enjoy a peaceful existence HERE!! and yet aspire to tear it all down.

My darker side knows that what's wrong with America will not only correct but overcorrect, and I know that overcorrection will be ugly, but on some days I don't care. December the 7th and 8th are two such days.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 01:36 AM (ScWBu)

491 ..Again, unless you're a child, lost your license, or are too broke to afford a car, leave your bicycling to parks. And don't run over pedestrians.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:34 AM (qAR6u)



Here on Galveston Island, about 99.95% of adults who ride bicycles are drunks that've lost their licenses.

But not the Tweakers. Those, they lack the coordination, balance and lack of muscular-skeletal TWITCHING to successfully navigate and maneuver such a complicated instrument as a bicycle.

Tweakers can be noted in that they push their bicycles along the bike lanes, laden with all of their worldly possessions, without ever once attempting to mount and pedal the damn thing.

Many addicts can be successfully rehabbed. Tweakers? WORSE than heroin.

This is the only conflict in which the Chinese proved in the end, to be right.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:41 AM (QzJWU)

492 Fire Horse GREATER THAN Water Cow.

Henceforth an eternal ONT factoid, beyond further debate.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:45 AM (QzJWU)

493 Hey, where all da white wimmen at?

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at December 08, 2019 01:45 AM (XVuno)

494 The Dems are praying even now that we endure a Foreign Attack.

I'm convinced that the Democrats are coordinating with the Iranians in an effort to bring down Trump. After all, John Kerry isn't flying to Paris to meet with his Iranian buddies for no reason.

Trump was supposed to start a war with Iran over the cruise missile strike on Saudi Arabia, but he failed to take the bait.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2019 01:46 AM (I2/tG)

495 Here on Galveston Island, about 99.95% of adults who ride bicycles are drunks that've lost their licenses.

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:41 AM (QzJWU)

About 1/3 here are the drunks or hobos. The others are the hardcore assholes with the Lance Armstrong getups or hipsters. They loudly demand and get bike lanes, bike racks, and don't like to stop for anything because "it breaks their momentum". I do enjoy watching them get drenched in the summer rains that Florida produces, especially when they get dunked by a car going through a heavy puddle.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:49 AM (qAR6u)

496 Trump was supposed to start a war with Iran over the cruise missile strike on Saudi Arabia, but he failed to take the bait.

Posted by: The ARC of History!
________

Trump was supposed to have an IQ of 1. If Trump has an IQ of 2, then his enemies have underestimated him and, for this reason, they will lose.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 08, 2019 01:52 AM (ScWBu)

497 ..Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 01:49 AM (qAR6u)


The only Lycra-Bikers here on Galveston, pedal the far reaches of the less traveled long roads off to the West, beyond the end of the Seawall.

On the mainland though, they plough Northward up along the Access Roads, which parallel the Interstate Highway.

From where we point and wave, at some 70 mph or above.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:54 AM (QzJWU)

498 kbdabear, a couple of things. Dougout Doug had 10 hours notice of the attack on Pearl and still let all his aircraft get caught on the ground when the Japanese attacked. He really wasn't the military genius that most histories make him out to be. His insistence on invading Pelileu for their miserable little airfield that cost so many American casualties is one instance. Secondly, Hitler declared war on the US on December 11 and it was the worst mistake he could have possibly made. Our industries were beyond the reach of any of his bombers and operated unimpeded. His biggest threat was his U-boats.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 08, 2019 01:55 AM (VNmG1)

499 Tactically, the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was a huge success. Strategically, it was the day they lost the war. It just took them awhile to figure it out.

Posted by: Old Blue at December 08, 2019 01:58 AM (VNmG1)

500 Fire Horse.

You, me n' Water Cow are going to have to break the seals on a great many bottles of good sippage.

The Horde can place their bets on the outcome. Odds are in my favor though.

I'm only going to be having to drink for ONE.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:59 AM (QzJWU)

501 I'm only going to be having to drink for ONE.

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 01:59 AM (QzJWU)

Next time I'm at the beach I'll give a shout across the Gulf for you!

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 02:02 AM (qAR6u)

502 How would today's media handle Pearl Harbor?

Probably the same as then. FDR was a fellow socialist who came as close as any President to wielding dictatorial powers. If he hadn't croaked, they probably would have written editorials about giving him a 5th term in office.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 02:06 AM (qAR6u)

503 ..Next time I'm at the beach I'll give a shout across the Gulf for you!


Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 02:02 AM (qAR6u)



Write to me, and send me coordinates. Email in my nic.

Fuck that "across" shit.

We'll sit across a table and drink as proper Morons are right to do.

/hasta la nite nite, Horde!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2019 02:06 AM (QzJWU)

504
I'm convinced that the Democrats are
coordinating with the Iranians in an effort to bring down Trump.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2019 01:46 AM (I2/tG)


We would be fools to think otherwise.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 08, 2019 02:09 AM (9Om/r)

505 The LA Times has weighed in, and the verdict is

Editorial: We've seen enough. Trump should be impeached

Well. That settles it. I'm convinced now. But I do wonder, which last straw broke their camel's back? Did a board member catch a dose of dipshitheria? I don't wonder enough to read their drivel though.

Hell, even Trump agrees. Let's get it on.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 08, 2019 02:12 AM (Z4rgH)

506 I'm convinced that the Democrats are
coordinating with the Iranians in an effort to bring down Trump. America

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 08, 2019 01:46 AM (I2/tG)

FIFY. They were giving Iran the reacharound when they were sure that Queen Cankles would be there to keep up the collusion.

Posted by: kbdabear at December 08, 2019 02:13 AM (qAR6u)

507 That's a Guacamolian.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 08, 2019 12:22 AM


I am NOT falling for that again.

Posted by: Mrs. Beto at December 08, 2019 03:15 AM (DMUuz)

508 Internal alarm went off.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 04:06 AM (ZCEU2)

509 I made it
Posted by: Skip

I did too !

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 04:14 AM (arJlL)

510 >>I made it
Posted by: Skip

I did too !
Posted by: JT

Same here.
Mornin', all

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 04:52 AM (Z/jzm)

511 Good morning, MLii !

Prayers up for you and your Hubby.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 04:57 AM (arJlL)

512 Thanks, JT. Much appreciated

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 04:59 AM (Z/jzm)

513 Wasn't here much yesterday. Is your dad doing better, Skip?

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 05:02 AM (Z/jzm)

514 I saw Fuzzy Bolus open for Tommy James and the Shondells at Shea Stadium back in the day

Posted by: Common Tater at December 08, 2019 05:09 AM (YOIA1)

515
Mornin', ya'll.

Posted by: Gooshy at December 08, 2019 05:09 AM (IptG4)

516
Good morning. I haven't gone to bed yet.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 08, 2019 05:12 AM (13CQC)

517 Did the Christmas decorating with mom yesterday. Yikes! There is a ton of stuff. Last year I intentionally put away the decorations in a way to pare down what we would put out this year. You know, boxed up stuff and put it in the way-way back of the closet. (With mom if it's not front and center it doesn't exist.) Holy crap! Still too many trips up and down the stairs.

For me, it is fun to see all of the treasures again, and the house looks festive. I'm not so sure mom feels that way. It seems to have caused more anxiety. She kept unplugging the tree lights! She'd say she was worried I'd forget to unplug them when we went to bed. All day she'd insist it was my stuff i brought over even though she helped me get the things out of her closets or basement!

Hopefully it will all be more familiar to her today.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 05:21 AM (Z/jzm)

518 Good morning. I haven't gone to bed yet.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Do what I do.

Whenever I have something that I wanna watch or read, the MORE interesting it is, the faster I fall asleep.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 05:21 AM (arJlL)

519 i tasted eggnog for the first time last night...
it was pretty good but i perfer the whiskey neat.

Posted by: loneranger at December 08, 2019 05:27 AM (SXEGt)

520 >>Whenever I have something that I wanna watch or read, the MORE interesting it is, the faster I fall asleep.
Posted by: JT

Funny! It's become a family joke that I can't make it through the whole movie without falling asleep! "Mom, are you awake?"
"Yeah, just resting my eyes."
"Mom, are you sleeping?"
"Mom,...mom,...mom! The movie's over"

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 05:32 AM (Z/jzm)

521 I have tried to find something boring if it's insomnia to read, not sure it works.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 05:35 AM (ZCEU2)

522 MLii - I thought the way it worked old memories are fixed.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 05:37 AM (ZCEU2)

523 MLii - My dad is improving but still has mucus crap in his lung, I take it they might try to remove some tomorrow by tube. His birthday is in a few weeks and going to my sister's so hope he is out and moving around.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 05:40 AM (ZCEU2)

524 >>MLii - I thought the way it worked old memories are fixed.
Posted by: Skip

It's so all over the place with her, Skip. That's what makes it so difficult.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 05:48 AM (Z/jzm)

525 Conversely, if something is stupid, inane and boring, I sit there with my eyes bugged out like they're revealing ancient mysteries.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 05:49 AM (arJlL)

526 Glad to hear he's improving. Never a good time to be sick, but around your birthday and the holidays is extra lousy.

Posted by: My life is insanity at December 08, 2019 05:51 AM (Z/jzm)

527 JT did nap yesterday help? I got lots done after my time out

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 05:53 AM (ZCEU2)

528 And thanks for those two drinks at the top, MisHum. I sure needed them after watching that white car dodge old man death twice. Off to work now.

Posted by: Eromero at December 08, 2019 05:54 AM (UUkQp)

529 JT did nap yesterday help? I got lots done after my time out

Oh, yeah.

Didja get your leak fixed ?

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2019 05:56 AM (arJlL)

530 Took a few hours but got it, had to solder a joint twice but it worked.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 05:58 AM (ZCEU2)

531 I was out at least 45 minutes yesterday, set tablet alarm for 30, fell asleep, alarm went off and hit reset was out another 30.

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:00 AM (ZCEU2)

532 EMT is NOOD

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:01 AM (vd8XM)

533 First and last

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2019 06:02 AM (ZCEU2)

534 Morning Horde. 4am here. Glad to hear your dad is doing better Skip.

Made an omelette. Going to take my mom's rocking chair to my daughter's today. Bitter sweet.

Posted by: Infidel at December 08, 2019 06:06 AM (O/X1S)

535 Thanks for the news Vic

Posted by: Bruce at December 08, 2019 06:08 AM (vd8XM)

Organic Food & Anti-Vaxxers - Does The Fear of Safe Food Lead to Fear of Safe Vaccines
[BUCK THROCKMORTON]

The American media and our popular culture both celebrate a fear of safe, nutritious food if it is not labeled “organic.” To be consistent then, why don’t we also celebrate anti-vaxxers’ fear of safe vaccines, which are also not “organic?” To be clear, I am not an anti-vaxxer. I am strongly pro-vaccine. Everyone in my house is vaccinated, and I am appalled at the outbreaks of contagious diseases due to anti-vaxxers. But let’s be clear, a venn diagram of those who obsess about organic food and anti-vaxxers will reveal a major overlap. If you know an anti-vaxxer, he is most likely committed to an organic diet.

Our culture accepts as a scientific fact that organic food is healthier than non-organic food. You can watch TV, read popular magazines, or listen to healthy-living gurus, and overwhelmingly you will be told that organic food is healthier than non-organic food. Recipes tend to call for organic produce and ingredients. And it goes beyond organic foods. Genetically-modified foods are slandered as “frankenfoods” concocted by mad scientists in a laboratory. Further, we are admonished to avoid anything that is not “natural.”

OK then. Vaccines are genetically modified, lab-made, and certainly not natural. Being anti-vax seems a logical extension of the natural, organic lifestyle.

I know several people - including family members - who have so completely bought into the natural-organic hype that they genuinely believe GMO and non-organic foods are poisonous. They would rather starve themselves and their children to death than ingest a gram of non-organic food. They look at the shelves of a regular grocery store and see rows and rows of poison. There is a medical term for this fear of safe healthy food - it’s called “orthorexia.” I am not shocked that some of these individuals are anti-vaxxers. Instead, I am shocked (and relieved) that some of the orthorexics I know actually do vaccinate themselves and their children.

I used to be amused that Whole Foods could gouge its customers and get them to pay a “designer label premium” for regular groceries. Like patrons of Saks or Nieman Marcus, Whole Foods’ affluent customers could feel a sense of affluent superiority to those who shop at mass market grocery stores. But it’s now clear that Whole Foods isn’t just putting a fancy hood ornament on its groceries - its business model also promotes fear – a fear that if you don’t stretch your wallet for “safe” organic groceries, then you are imperiling the health and safety of yourself and your loved ones. That is wicked. And very effective. The organic food obsessives I know include cash strapped individuals who do not have the means to afford the Whole Foods lifestyle. But they shop there anyhow. They have to. Out of fear.

Vaccinations are critical to the safety of our communities, so we must keep striving to educate citizens on the importance of vaccinations. But let’s also stop celebrating the irrational fear of safe, healthy groceries. If we are going to applaud an individual for being terrified of a can of Del Monte green beans, then we can hardly be surprised that she is terrified of injecting her child with a lab-made, genetically modified, live virus of an awful disease.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:30 PM




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1

Organic is bunkum, no?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 07, 2019 07:37 PM (Xd1wG)

2 Well, there is certainly an overlap of mindset.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 07, 2019 07:37 PM (ycWCI)

3 "Smallpox is natural; vaccine ain't."

~ Ogden Nash

Posted by: Codfanglers at December 07, 2019 07:38 PM (A0H36)

4 All New Religions need dietary restrictions, to make the Faithful feel committed to the Faith on a daily basis.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:38 PM (V2Yro)

5 Thirst

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 07, 2019 07:38 PM (2QjP7)

6
Romaine lettuce? Organic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:38 PM (7rVsF)

7 Organic is crap. Sometimes literally! Where do you think all the e-coli contamination of our lettuce comes from?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (Y4EXg)

8 Why is the Epstein didn't kill himself meme like an anti-vaxxer kid?


It'll never get old.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (ElK6Q)

9 This is the Movie Thread ?

Posted by: JT at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (arJlL)

10 What are wine moms up to now?

First, sunning their anuses and now afraid of canned green beans and getting a polio vax?

Lots of stupid democrats out there.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (Z+IKu)

11 Coulda been top 50 but yeah, read the content.

Posted by: teej at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (L8JfA)

12
Anti-vaxxer? I'm anti-taxxer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:40 PM (7rVsF)

13 It is the collapse of organized, formal religion, which has made all of these faux religions explode. People are desperate to feel that they have done something to make themselves Righteous, and in the absence of formal religion they will go to great lengths to arrange it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:40 PM (V2Yro)

14 That's odd. I was just discussing this very thing with WeaselDog.

Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2019 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

15 7 Organic is crap. Sometimes literally! Where do you think all the e-coli contamination of our lettuce comes from?
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (Y4EXg)

Lets take everything we have learned in thousands of years of agriculture and throw all that shit out the window... and onto the food!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 07, 2019 07:41 PM (ycWCI)

16 In my youth, working to solve world hunger at the US Grain & Marketing Research Lab, I would keep up with the literature. We had "Food Technology"magazine in the library. Quite the eye opener.

Even back then, the about of processing that went into food sold to the public was an undisclosed subject.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2019 07:41 PM (u82oZ)

17 The amount. Sigh.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 07, 2019 07:42 PM (u82oZ)

18 Funny how every atheist on his deathbed cries, "God help me"

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 07, 2019 07:42 PM (2QjP7)

19 Organic is crap. Sometimes literally! Where do you think all the e-coli contamination of our lettuce comes from?
Posted by: Tonypete


Comes from pickers shitting in the fields while picking.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:42 PM (ElK6Q)

20

E. coli lettuce is organic.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 07:44 PM (aKsyK)

21 Evolution hasn't been given a fair chance with the advent of so many vaccines!

Don't try to fool Mother Nature!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 07, 2019 07:45 PM (BiNEL)

22 Since I eat plants and meat, rather than rocks or dirt, I eat organic. But I don't pay extra for specially labeled versions of regular food.

Posted by: Empire1 at December 07, 2019 07:45 PM (6w3GG)

23 Americans, as a group, have a very poor understanding of risk and risk factors.

I have no data on this, but that hasn't stopped me before from mouthing off.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 07:45 PM (Y4EXg)

24 19 Organic is crap. Sometimes literally! Where do you think all the e-coli contamination of our lettuce comes from?
Posted by: Tonypete
Comes from pickers shitting in the fields while picking.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:42 PM (ElK6Q)

The shitting might not be so bad if they didn't wipe their asses with their hands and then pick your lettuce with those hands, no washing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:46 PM (V2Yro)

25 Anti-vaxxer? I'm anti-taxxer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:40 PM (7rVsF)


I'm betting Mayor Pete is a Pro-waxxer!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 07, 2019 07:46 PM (BiNEL)

26 Best of all is the fact that all these shriekers are too dumb to figure out that the war over GMOs was lost by them about 6000 years ago. Much of people turning stupid over food has to do with the failure to properly teach history, among other things.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 07, 2019 07:46 PM (vLRri)

27 14 That's odd. I was just discussing this very thing with WeaselDog.
Posted by: Weasel at December 07, 2019 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

Non GMO WeaselDog. Probably organic too. But vaccinated.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (ghM7c)

28 The label 'organic' is a fraud. It's signaling virtue with food.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (lnyJN)

29 Facts only get in the way of a good argument....ask any libstained, tofu-farter...

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (2QjP7)

30 My wife has bought into the organic craze, it's no different than ordinary to me. Some short time ago organic milk was all we saw at a store we normally don't go to so got it. She raved for weeks it was the best milk ever but at better than twice the price, no fkin way.

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (ZCEU2)

31 The shitting might not be so bad if they didn't wipe their asses with their hands and then pick your lettuce with those hands, no washing.

Oh.

I thought they wiped their asses with the lettuce leaves.

Posted by: JT at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (arJlL)

32 We'll lose 20-30 million tops

Posted by: BUCK TURGIDSON at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (rpxSz)

33 vaxx vaxx
jab jab

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:48 PM (G546f)

34 E. coli lettuce is organic.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 07, 2019 07:44 PM (aKsyK)


Isn't the e. coli bacteria a naturally occurring one?

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 07, 2019 07:48 PM (BiNEL)

35
I have no data on this, but that hasn't stopped me before from mouthing off.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 07:45 PM (Y4EXg)


I said of a co-worker that complete ignorance of a subject was no deterrent to tendering his worthless opinion.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:48 PM (7rVsF)

36 I wonder if anti-vaxxers get their dogs the rabies shots and others?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:49 PM (ElK6Q)

37 the best defense is not to eat any fruits or veggies

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:49 PM (G546f)

38 I thought global Warming was going to kill us in twelve years. Will the poisonous food get us first? I'd hide under my bed but I think that's where the hole in ozone layer is.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 07, 2019 07:49 PM (jp0Bv)

39 CHEMTRAILS!!!!

Posted by: Loons! at December 07, 2019 07:49 PM (I2/tG)

40 latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la et mn biggest little farm documentary

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 07:50 PM (ZCEU2)

41 I thought they wiped their asses with the lettuce leaves.
Posted by: JT at December 07, 2019 07:47 PM (arJlL)

They do it with the whole head, and then they toss it into the pick box.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:50 PM (V2Yro)

42
I've had so many preservatives that my body is going to live longer than I am.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:50 PM (7rVsF)

43 If the scientific community still held the respect of a conformist and trusting society, no one would have trouble with vaccinations. But they have squandered that trust, at best in the cause of stubbornness, at worst in the service of tyranny.

How could anyone be surprised at this being the result?

Posted by: trev006 at December 07, 2019 07:50 PM (6OzV/)

44 Speaking of Frankenfoods. The Impossible Burger is a chemistry experiment. Yet, oddly, I don't hear anyone shouting about that. If the get one molecule wrong in the lab mix the odds of colon cancer skyrocket.
Yet, it's made to look and, allegedly taste, like meat. No vegan or vegetarian wants that. Why? Because meat.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at December 07, 2019 07:50 PM (Tt761)

45 9 This is the Movie Thread ?
Posted by: JT

it's a documentary

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:51 PM (G546f)

46 I said of a co-worker that complete ignorance of a subject was no deterrent to tendering his worthless opinion.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:48 PM (7rVsF)

That'd be like demanding that people hear read the post before they start commenting!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:51 PM (V2Yro)

47 I thought global Warming was going to kill us in twelve years. Will the poisonous food get us first? I'd hide under my bed but I think that's where the hole in ozone layer is.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 07, 2019 07:49 PM (jp0Bv)

Hey, that's my hiding spot!...

Posted by: Acid Rain at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (Z+IKu)

48 It's getting hard to find real food in some categories, now. They sell nothing but "organic" bean sprouts, for example.

A & W restaurants are quacking about selling eggs from "vegan-fed chickens". But chickens are natural carnivores, and free-range chickens absolutely will eat bugs and worms. Of course the peckerheads also sell that Frankenmeat made out of some waste silage or some such thing, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (/sgva)

49 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1637620/
Fresh
A movie about sustainable organic farming

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (ZCEU2)

50 If you've ever eaten a "Blue Lakes Green Bean", you're munching on the delicious scientific genius of my neighbor, Lynn B. Kerr, who developed the strain while working for Northrup King in the early 70's...

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (2QjP7)

51
I actively avoid buying food labeled "organic" if possible. I won't automatically reject it, but I regard it as a sign of probable lower quality, and something of a scam anyway. Any health risk from modern pesticide and fertilizer use is infinitesimal, and the organic-labeled stuff is not entirely free of those things anyway.

There are plenty of low-level naturally-occurring carcinogens and toxins. Can't escape it.

How many of the organic religionists willing take marijuana smoke into their bodies? How many want to coddle and tolerate the dangerous vagrants and derelicts who attack without warning, and are increasingly vectors for typhus and hepatitis? Speaking of Venn diagrams.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (t5m5e)

52 will anyone carp about me throwing a couple of fish puns ?

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (rpxSz)

53
That'd be like demanding that people hear read the post before they start commenting!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:51 PM (V2Yro)


Let's not start going crazy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (7rVsF)

54 Scotch has never been recalled due to e.coli.

Just sayin.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:52 PM (ElK6Q)

55 I thought they wiped their asses with the lettuce leaves.
Posted by: JT

----

Mrs TP - "Hey Hon, want a salad for supper?"

TP - "Ahh, no, I'm good."

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 07:53 PM (Y4EXg)

56 oh hubby bought one of those "living lettuce" heads at wegmans - you know, lettuce with roots in a little plastuc pot
he cut off the leaves and keeps it watered and it's slowly growing back!
LOL

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:53 PM (G546f)

57 Isn't all food organic?

I mean, its not like it comes from a Lab.

There may be stuff ON it that some don't like, but its still organic.

Posted by: Don Quixote USN, Ret. at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (NgKpN)

58 Years ago I knew someone who worked for the Department of Agriculture. He claimed Agriculture defined "Organic" as food with an allowed bug content higher than non-organic food. So more bug parts in your "natural"food.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (bML9A)

59 I wouldn't want my child injected with a can of DelMonte green beans either.

Posted by: Slim at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (iEXgF)

60 CHEMTRAILS!!!!

Posted by: Loons!


Sorry, but the govs' track record on nefarious projects, has me refusing to believe they are not incapable of anything my twisted imagination can conceive.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (LOq4H)

61 and free-range chickens absolutely will eat bugs and worms.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

---

Free range chickens also eat the chicken shit on the ground. Caged chickens to not.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 07:55 PM (Y4EXg)

62 http://www.dirtthemovie.org/
Narrarated by Jamie Lee Curtis
Exploring the relationship between humans and the soil

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 07:55 PM (ZCEU2)

63 I've heard of women who are very particular what they put in their bodies and then they take synthetic hormones in order to break a healthy, natural body function.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (87gB3)

64

That's a weird movie title

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (a4xU3)

65 58 Years ago I knew someone who worked for the Department of Agriculture. He claimed Agriculture defined "Organic" as food with an allowed bug content higher than non-organic food. So more bug parts in your "natural"food.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (bML9A)


Mmm dirt good, bugs = more protein.
Hippies in Star Trek on a death trip.

Posted by: Slim at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (iEXgF)

66 There are three kinds of foods--natural, unnatural, and supernatural.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (l9m7l)

67 will anyone carp about me throwing a couple of fish puns ?
Posted by: REDACTED


As long as it's for the halibut, no.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (ElK6Q)

68 In Oregon, you have lots of both left-wing antivaxxers, and fundamentalist Christian antivaxxers.

Schools with unusually low vaccination rates tend to have the words "Waldorf", "Environmental", or "Christian" in the name of the school.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (I2/tG)

69 Maybe the ozone layer prefers to have a hole.

Posted by: klaftern at December 07, 2019 07:57 PM (RuIsu)

70 65 58 Years ago I knew someone who worked for the Department of Agriculture. He claimed Agriculture defined "Organic" as food with an allowed bug content higher than non-organic food. So more bug parts in your "natural"food.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (bML9A)


Mmm dirt good, bugs = more protein.
Hippies in Star Trek on a death trip.
Posted by: Slim at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (iEXgF)

Herbert!

Posted by: Space Hippie at December 07, 2019 07:57 PM (NgKpN)

71 I didn't want my vaccines, but mom hid them in the paste.

Posted by: Now Joey is Tarded at December 07, 2019 07:57 PM (rJX8C)

72 "Impossible Meat" has found its way out here to the boonies.

I've never noticed anyone putting it into *their* shopping cart, and at ~$9/lb for ground, uh, scamburger, it sure as hell isn't going into *mine!*

Posted by: JQ at December 07, 2019 07:57 PM (gP/Z3)

73 62 http://www.dirtthemovie.org/
Narrarated by Jamie Lee Curtis
Exploring the relationship between humans and the soil

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 07:55 PM (ZCEU2)


Is she ah natural?

Posted by: Slim at December 07, 2019 07:57 PM (iEXgF)

74 Americans, as a group, have a very poor understanding of risk and risk factors.



I have no data on this, but that hasn't stopped me before from mouthing off.

Posted by: Tonypete
............
My wife insists I thoroughly rinse head lettuce before we use it.
So, I dutifully cut it into quarters, run water over it, then let it dry on a towel.
I stopped arguing with her a long time ago that if there is e-coli in the lettuce, rinsing it will not take care of it.
And any chemicals like bug spray or whatever are so infinitesimal, they needn't be worried about... especially since I peel off the outer layers anyway.

But.. like I said.. I gave up arguing a long time ago..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (438dO)

75 I mean, its not like it comes from a Lab.

There may be stuff ON it that some don't like, but its still organic.
Posted by: Don Quixote USN, Ret. at December 07, 2019 07:54 PM (NgKpN)

True, dat. Some of it comes from Huskies and Poodles, too.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (/sgva)

76 So FDR removed Admiral Richardson from command coz he disagreed with moving the fleet to Pearl Harbor without further training

Admiral Kimmel takes over

would Richardson have been more prepared?

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (G546f)

77
Scotch has never been recalled due to e.coli.

Just sayin.


Manager Joe McCarthy wanted to teach slugger Hack Wilson, a notorious tippler, about the dangers of drinking. He dropped a worm in a glass of water, where it started swimming around and another in a glass of scotch, where it promptly died.

"What would you conclude from this?" McCarthy asked. Wilson replied, "If I drink enough I won't get worms."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (7rVsF)

78 Now THIS is a movie about organic farming!!!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081184/

trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4AR3BgaCdA

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2019 07:59 PM (V2Yro)

79 Not to be picky...

Non-organic is to be inedible.

But if you mean non-Organic, as in lower prices and less chance of aphids and other bugs, then you are correct.

I think. Humans confuse me so. Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2019 07:59 PM (d5Ayn)

80 As long as it's for the halibut, no.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (ElK6Q)

bang the drum slowly

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2019 08:00 PM (rpxSz)

81 bang the drum slowly
Posted by: REDACTED


That's a new one. Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 08:00 PM (ElK6Q)

82 Ice cream comprises all three legs of my food pyramid.....use to include Coke and pretzels butt the kidney stones were too pricey...

Posted by: Builder Berg at December 07, 2019 08:00 PM (2QjP7)

83 Isn't all food organic?



I mean, its not like it comes from a Lab.



There may be stuff ON it that some don't like, but its still organic.

Posted by: Don Quixote

.............
A tomato knows no difference from Nitrogen from pellets you spread vs. Nitrogen from compost.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 07, 2019 08:00 PM (438dO)

84 will anyone carp about me throwing a couple of fish puns ?
Posted by: REDACTED


As long as it's for the halibut, no.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (ElK6Q)


I certainly hope that the resurgence of fish puns is a mere fluke!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (BiNEL)

85 You can't argue with 'organic' nuts though.
The ones I know can "taste the difference".

You'll convict and jail Barack Obama before you convince them that their food is only overpriced due to inefficient production.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (lnyJN)

86 ok if we're talking about wirms
let me flashback to the wiggly white worms we found in some fresh caught salmon from a costco seafoid expo
eeeeeeewwwww

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (G546f)

87 But.. like I said.. I gave up arguing a long time ago..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (438dO)


There is aerosol debris while that lettuce etc. is on the shelf and in transit.

Posted by: Slim at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (iEXgF)

88
As long as it's for the halibut, no.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:56 PM (ElK6Q)

bang the drum slowly
Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2019 08:00 PM (rpxSz)

------------

Now we're going to flounder in fish puns!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (7rVsF)

89 81
bang the drum slowly

Posted by: REDACTED





That's a new one. Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223



NOW it's a movie thread!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (LOq4H)

90 There are about anoth 1/2 dozen movies of farming I could throw I this odd movie thread

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (ZCEU2)

91 Sigh!

Stop making sense... it scares the children the child-like.

Posted by: John the River at December 07, 2019 08:03 PM (/3goP)

92 So surprise drum?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 07, 2019 08:03 PM (d5Ayn)

93 So FDR removed Admiral Richardson from command coz he disagreed with moving the fleet to Pearl Harbor without further training

Admiral Kimmel takes over

would Richardson have been more prepared?
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (G546f)

The fleet was on full alert every day for a month before Pearl Harbor. Kimmel stood them down that weekend to give them a break.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:03 PM (eoQWY)

94 Now we're going to flounder in fish puns!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (7rVsF)

Walleye'll be damned! Didn't see that coming down the pike.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (/sgva)

95 I just got in after I made a little trip. Returning, I went by one of our local cattle ranches (Arkansas is a pretty large beef producing state). This ranch, or farm, specializes in Black Angus, and I have never seen so many young calves running around. Evidently, the demand for beef is still high. They don't breed em as a hobby.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (C1Lsn)

96 That's a new one. Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 08:00 PM (ElK6Q)


Indeed, well done!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (BiNEL)

97 would Richardson have been more prepared?

I hope the Navy has memorialized Richardson in some fashion - he publicly opposed moving the fleet to Pearl Harbor, specifically because the fleet would be vulnerable to attack by the Japanese there, and lost his job over it.

He never got a wartime command - Roosevelt must have been pissed. After all Roosevelt was wrong,, and Richardson was right.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (I2/tG)

98 I can tell you without fear of contradiction that, in college, organic chemistry was a ball buster.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (Y4EXg)

99 I was bullshitting engaging in witty repartee with my idiot about the female judge in Kentucky who was banging everything in sight and would reward or punish attorneys who appeared before her based upon whether they succumbed to her carnal desires.

https://dailym.ai/2OZuVx5

They had some comments I thought I'd share. What do you hear when you walk into her court? "All rise." She was acting pro boner. She preferred a hung jury.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)

100 If you asked AOC about the year 2030, she would give you a blank look. 2018+12=2030.

Climate alarmists don't even do the work that anti-vaxxers do.

The children of anti-vaxxers, like Epstein, didn't choose to die.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2019 08:05 PM (LxTcq)

101 EVERYTHING we eat has been genetically modified or comes from sources that have been genetically modified. Have these people not heard of Gregor Mendel? Animal husbandry? Cross-breeding? It's been going on for centuries, if not millennia. The ignorance infuriates me.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:05 PM (NWiLs)

102 NOW it's a movie thread!
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 08:01 PM (LOq4H)

RED DRUM

RED DRUM

RED DRUM

Posted by: DANNY TORRANCE at December 07, 2019 08:05 PM (rpxSz)

103 There is aerosol debris....
Posted by: Slim
------

Well, yeah, if it is California lettuce, and Swalwell has been in the area.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 07, 2019 08:06 PM (elfAG)

104 99 I was bullshitting engaging in witty repartee with my idiot about the female judge in Kentucky who was banging everything in sight and would reward or punish attorneys who appeared before her based upon whether they succumbed to her carnal desires.

https://dailym.ai/2OZuVx5

They had some comments I thought I'd share. What do you hear when you walk into her court? "All rise." She was acting pro boner. She preferred a hung jury.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)

Get a favorable ruling if you bang the judge and her secretary at the same time? Huh. Second look at getting back into litigation...

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:06 PM (NWiLs)

105 85 You can't argue with 'organic' nuts though.
The ones I know can "taste the difference".


You should dare them to do a double-blind test and bet a steak dinner that they can't do better than random guessing.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 07, 2019 08:06 PM (qc+VF)

106 So FDR removed Admiral Richardson from command coz he disagreed with moving the fleet to Pearl Harbor without further training

Admiral Kimmel takes over

would Richardson have been more prepared?
Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 07:58 PM (G546f)

Sounds like part of the classic "Dread Tomato Addiction" story, where the scare quote is to crush tomatoes into a goldfish bowl, then add the goldfish, which quickly dies. Therefore Tomatoes are deadly!

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:07 PM (eoQWY)

107 I just got in after I made a little trip. Returning, I went by one of our local cattle ranches (Arkansas is a pretty large beef producing state). This ranch, or farm, specializes in Black Angus, and I have never seen so many young calves running around. Evidently, the demand for beef is still high. They don't breed em as a hobby.
Posted by: bill in arkansas



Which is why we will never turn totally vegan. Entire species would become extinct. Because no one is raising them for fun.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 08:07 PM (ElK6Q)

108 85 You can't argue with 'organic' nuts though.
The ones I know can "taste the difference".

They need to taste deez nutz.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:07 PM (NWiLs)

109 Hmm somehow got the wrong top half on my response there. Sorry vmom.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:07 PM (eoQWY)

110 Some short time ago organic milk was all we saw at a store we normally don't go to so got it

Hahaha, organic milk is the shit you milk out of the cow, straight from the barn, put in the fridge in a gal. glass jar and the creme rises to the top.

Posted by: Infidel at December 07, 2019 08:07 PM (O/X1S)

111 38 I thought global Warming was going to kill us in twelve years. Will the poisonous food get us first? I'd hide under my bed but I think that's where the hole in ozone layer is.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls



I guess you missed it. We died a decade ago because of globull warmening. Remember, 20 years ago all the dire warnings of melting ice packs and disappearing cities along the coast? Sad to hear about Miami being under 20 feet of water. On the other hand, Orlando has lovely Ocean views of the East and West coasts!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 08:08 PM (DhSOy)

112 I guess you missed it. We died a decade ago because of globull warmening. Remember, 20 years ago all the dire warnings of melting ice packs and disappearing cities along the coast? Sad to hear about Miami being under 20 feet of water. On the other hand, Orlando has lovely Ocean views of the East and West coasts!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 08:08 PM (DhSOy)

My property value increased 20 fold.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (NWiLs)

113 There are some types of vegetables I try to buy organic; root vegetables in particular. Roots tend to pick up more pesticide residue and that can't be hoof and some are linked to cancers and neurological disorders. In the summer this is easier as I belong to an organic CFA.

Posted by: CN at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (5wOoy)

114 EVERYTHING we eat has been genetically modified or comes from sources that have been genetically modified. Have these people not heard of Gregor Mendel? Animal husbandry? Cross-breeding? It's been going on for centuries, if not millennia. The ignorance infuriates me.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:05 PM (NWiLs)

Look at the original plant corn/maize comes from and what the Indians did to make it into a fairly big eared variety, which we scaled up somewhat afterward.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (eoQWY)

115 You should dare them to do a double-blind test and bet a steak dinner that they can't do better than random guessing.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg



I want that test for our "endangered" Orcas/salmon.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (LOq4H)

116 111 38 I thought global Warming was going to kill us in twelve years. Will the poisonous food get us first? I'd hide under my bed but I think that's where the hole in ozone layer is.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls


I guess you missed it. We died a decade ago because of globull warmening. Remember, 20 years ago all the dire warnings of melting ice packs and disappearing cities along the coast? Sad to hear about Miami being under 20 feet of water. On the other hand, Orlando has lovely Ocean views of the East and West coasts!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 08:08 PM (DhSOy)

Wait, I thought we all died from gun violence LAST year!

Posted by: Don Q at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (NgKpN)

117 Wonder if the norovirus outbreak and unusually bad flu season have any contributing factors?

And do I need a flu shot? I've been relying on herd immunity.

I found out that unlike something like a tetanus vaccine, which provides protection for 10 years, the flu shot only give short-term protection. So I skip it. I've had flu once in 1999.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (87gB3)

118 Some people think they're going to die someday,
but I got news you never have to eat your vegetables.

Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (FhXTo)

119 Look at the original plant corn/maize comes from and what the Indians did to make it into a fairly big eared variety, which we scaled up somewhat afterward.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (eoQWY)

The difference is amaizeing.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (NWiLs)

120 I opened a can of corn as a side dish for my chainstore-bought steak.


That was yesterday.


So far, I'm still alive.


Must be genetics, or luck of the draw, or something.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (sy5kK)

121 Gigantic nutz

I'm all in

Posted by: SHEP at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (rpxSz)

122 "buck throckmorton" - wasp porn star

Posted by: mjc at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (Pg+x7)

123 I know several people - including family members - who have so completely bought into the natural-organic hype that they genuinely believe GMO and non-organic foods are poisonous. They would rather starve themselves and their children to death than ingest a gram of non-organic food.

Excellent. Sometimes Darwin can use a hand.

This the nutritional equivalent of the lottery, which is also a stupidity tax.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2019 08:10 PM (FXaFS)

124 No I can't taste the difference, but I still buy organic roots.

Posted by: CN at December 07, 2019 08:11 PM (5wOoy)

125 I got yer organic root...right HERE!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:11 PM (NWiLs)

126 Why is the Epstein didn't kill himself meme like an anti-vaxxer kid?


It'll never get old.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (ElK6Q)




I laughed like a hyena, and I'm going to hell.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 08:11 PM (yQpMk)

127 Look at the original plant corn/maize comes from and what the Indians did to make it into a fairly big eared variety, which we scaled up somewhat afterward.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:09 PM (eoQWY)

And now the stuff cannot seed itself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 08:11 PM (/sgva)

128 Organic is bunkum, no?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 07, 2019 07:37 PM (Xd1wG)


Why should carbon-based food get all the airplay? There are another 91 naturally-occurring elements. It's time for inorganic compounds to get a look-in.

Start with rust. Yum.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2019 08:12 PM (FXaFS)

129 Yeah the irony of the stand-down for Pearl after weeks of alerts is not widely known.


Counter-factual that I've never seen discussed: if the fleet had stayed here in San Diego, what would have Japan done when they launched their offensive to take the "resource zone" to the south [the main point of the war]?


No way the Kido Butai attempts to raid San Diego. The Hawaii operation was already an audacious thing conducted at the extreme range of practicable operations against a peer enemy with assets all over the intervening space.


My Krugman-First-Pass analysis: Japan does the rest of the operation, to include the Philippines, all the British targets. The politix and emotional impact of air raids on the Philippines is far less decisive and clear than what actually happened, FDR is put in an impossible position, and can only manage a major increase in defense spending/force expansion, or a declaration of war that limits our war aims. Very very different situation, much tougher. If Hitler keeps his mouth shut, it gets even worse.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (El6T/)

130 116: Wait, I thought we all died from gun violence LAST year!
Posted by: Don Q



We did. Now we're deader.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (DhSOy)

131 you know who's really to blame for artificial genetically modified food?

gregor mendel.

Posted by: mjc at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (Pg+x7)

132 It'll never get old.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 07:39 PM (ElK6Q)

hehehehe

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (rpxSz)

133 Didja see super genius Al Green's explanation of impeachment?

Rep. Al Green: Impeachment Needed "To Deal With Slavery"

-
I coulda sworn we dealt with slavery some time ago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (+y/Ru)

134 Why should carbon-based food get all the airplay? There are another 91 naturally-occurring elements. It's time for inorganic compounds to get a look-in.

Start with rust. Yum.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2019 08:12 PM (FXaFS)


Carbon bad

Posted by: The Horta at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (aS1PU)

135 I actually knew a few folks who contracted polio as young adults.

The iron lung used to scare the shit outta me as a ute.

Trust me, you want the vax.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 07, 2019 08:13 PM (Z+IKu)

136 Coadaptation is also a thing that happens even without humans. There is a theory that some tree seeds can't germinate without the Dodo bird eating them and grinding off some of the husk, so the species is not being renewed for these last few hundred years.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2019 08:14 PM (eoQWY)

137 109 Hmm somehow got the wrong top half on my response there. Sorry vmom.
Posted by: Oldcat

perhaps Yamamoto was armed with tomato torpedoes

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 08:14 PM (G546f)

138 OT: Clemson is just toying with Virginia. They are just so much better. Virginia may keep is close for a bit but I expect Clemson to just pull away.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 07, 2019 08:14 PM (DhSOy)

139 The thing about organic, non-GMO, heart-healthy, etc, is that the company has to pay someone in order to use those descriptors on the label.

It's a racket.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (87gB3)

140 Start with rust. Yum.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2019 08:12 PM (FXaFS)

Maybe we could all get ourselves whole-body tattoos made from chlorophyll, and just lie around in the Sun and photosynthesize all day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (/sgva)

141 Just remembered, stopped at Wendy's coming home from the hospital and ordered lemonade, got MinuteMaid instead of the organic lemonade which was the other choice.

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (ZCEU2)

142 I would also venture a guess that most food related maladies are a result of poor hygiene in preparation. You get some nut who insists on raw foods, and is probably not too clean of body him/her self, and guess what, ptomaine. Folks who insist that canned food, or even cooked food will poison them, are eventually going to kill themselves with a bad batch of uncooked glop. You can only wash it so much.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (C1Lsn)

143 135: And those who survived polio usually had some permanent damage, as did FDR.

Posted by: CN at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (5wOoy)

144 Defense Secretary refuses to label Pensacola killing as terrorism. It's a "tragic incident." I guess that's one step up from "workplace violence." We're getting better at this.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (H8QX8)

145 I was bullshitting engaging in witty repartee with my idiot about the
female judge in Kentucky who was banging everything in sight and would
reward or punish attorneys who appeared before her based upon whether
they succumbed to her carnal desires.



https://dailym.ai/2OZuVx5



They had some comments I thought I'd share. What do you hear when
you walk into her court? "All rise." She was acting pro boner. She
preferred a hung jury.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 07, 2019 08:04 PM (+y/Ru)




The Katie Hill of judges

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (a4xU3)

146 Watching the Big Ten playoffs and saw most of the Buckeyes kneeled to say a prayer before the game. They do this at OSU home games but it's nice to see it on national tv.

Posted by: Moon howler at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (hLiaa)

147 If vaccines were so safe, then why can't the companies be sued? It's not the virus, it's the other shit companies put in the solution.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (8dCIx)

148 soylent green is people!

but it's 100% organic.

Posted by: mjc at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (Pg+x7)

149 135: And those who survived polio usually had some permanent damage, as did FDR.
Posted by: CN at December 07, 2019 08:15 PM (5wOoy)


My wife had polio as a little child. She recovered 100% You would never guess she had it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (aS1PU)

150
Has anyone ever did a blind taste test comparing organic foods to regular foods?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (Xd1wG)

151 Defense Secretary refuses to label Pensacola killing as terrorism. It's a "tragic incident." I guess that's one step up from "workplace violence." We're getting better at this.

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Ahh. The ostrich strategy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 07, 2019 08:17 PM (+y/Ru)

152 I want my food to be planted, sprayed, watered, fertilized, harvested, processed, packaged, refrigerated, loaded and delivered to my local store by organic strangers rather than inorganic strangers.



So like , none of this happens where you can see it. So how do you trust the label?



"Because feelings", they explain. "Government", they add.


"Also reasons", they continue, nodding knowingly.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 08:18 PM (lnyJN)

153 135 Ex sister in law,two two years my senior had polio. I had Salk and Sabin as a kid. Jonas Salk should be a revered name worldwide.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:19 PM (C1Lsn)

154 Botulinum toxin is organic. So is saxitoxin, the toxin in puffer fish. Cobra venom? Toxic.

The "organic" thing is a monument to 1) the stupidity of most people, and 2) the parlous state of science education in America, 3) the efficacy of marketing, and 4) the venality of those pushing this crap.

And maybe: 5) the willingness of the Reds to agitate people on almost any basis as a way of "building a mass movement." Think that's going too far? Consider how easy it is to convince "organic" health food idiots, anti-vaxxers, etc. that "they" are poisoning you, and you have to become "active" to fight back. Kevin Trudeau was the patron saint of that kind of rubbish, a monument to items #3 and #4 above. Especially #4.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2019 08:19 PM (FXaFS)

155 A & W restaurants are quacking about selling eggs from "vegan-fed chickens".


I had a brief vision of chickens pecking the eyes of vegans.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 08:19 PM (yQpMk)

156 155 A & W restaurants are quacking about selling eggs from "vegan-fed chickens".


I had a brief vision of chickens pecking the eyes of vegans.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 08:19 PM (yQpMk)

They grind up the vegans and add them to the feed.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:20 PM (NWiLs)

157 If vaccines were so safe, then why can't the companies be sued? It's not the virus, it's the other shit companies put in the solution.
Posted by: squirrelly dan



Technically speaking, if 95% are ok and 5% suffer from the vaccine, doesn't that make them defective and not the vaccine?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2019 08:20 PM (ElK6Q)

158 https://dailym.ai/2OZuVx5

She's got a great pair of +2s on her.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at December 07, 2019 08:20 PM (8dCIx)

159 I do wish I could buy unmolested chicken. It's tough to find any that hasn't been injected with a solution. This interferes with browning and affects taste and texture.

No, I did not make any attempt at phrasing.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 08:20 PM (87gB3)

160 Petroleum is carbon-based isn't it? Formerly dead microorganisms?

Then I get to call fossil fuels "organic fuels".

Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (786Ro)

161 "43 If the scientific community still held the respect of a conformist and trusting society, no one would have trouble with vaccinations. But they have squandered that trust, at best in the cause of stubbornness, at worst in the service of tyranny.

How could anyone be surprised at this being the result?

Posted by: trev006 at December 07, 2019 07:50 PM (6OzV/) "





This, exactly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (JwHjN)

162 Admiral Kimmel sounds like he was a cuck

Posted by: vmom, anti-vahzist at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (G546f)

163
you know who's really to blame for artificial genetically modified food?



gregor mendel.



Punnett squares are the devil's Tic Tac Toe.

Posted by: mikeyG at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (lnyJN)

164 Every taste test Stevie Wonder takes is blind.

Posted by: klaftern at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (RuIsu)

165 Has anyone ever did a blind taste test comparing organic foods to regular foods?[p/i]


I will say that vegetables straight out of my organic garden taste better but I think that's because it's way fresher rather than any organic properties.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (yQpMk)

166 149: Lucky her, my neighbor has braces and canes. Very sad.

A dreadful example of pesticide exposure is France's Guadeloupe and Martinique. They have high prostate cancer rates and hematological issues. There is a rising incidence of these die to the long half life of chlordecone.

Posted by: CN at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (5wOoy)

167 I don't get flu shots but my kids got every shot we could get. My father had 2 brothers that died , days of each other, of measles. My grandmother cried when she told me about it as an adult.

Posted by: Moon howler at December 07, 2019 08:22 PM (hLiaa)

168 "they grind up the vegans and add them to the feed..."

that was the plot twist in an "alfred hitchcock presents" the other night. the murderer gave the clueless police inspectors a box of eggs at the end.

Posted by: mjc at December 07, 2019 08:23 PM (Pg+x7)

169 159 Emmie, look for "Smart Chicken". I don't know if it's a brand or certification but it's injection free and the only reason I buy it is it's a money saver. More chicken, less water.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:23 PM (C1Lsn)

170 169 159 Emmie, look for "Smart Chicken". I don't know if it's a brand or certification but it's injection free and the only reason I buy it is it's a money saver. More chicken, less water.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:23 PM (C1Lsn)

If they're so smart, how come they're so dead?

Posted by: Insomniac at December 07, 2019 08:24 PM (NWiLs)

171 Then I get to call fossil fuels "organic fuels".
Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2019 08:21 PM (786Ro)


If fossil fuels are so bad for the earth, shouldn't we be taking it out of the ground rather than leaving it in?

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 08:24 PM (87gB3)

172 Emmie, look for "Smart Chicken". I don't know if it's a brand or certification but it's injection free and the only reason I buy it is it's a money saver. More chicken, less water.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:23 PM (C1Lsn)


If I buy Smart Chicken and drive home in a Smart car does that make me a genius?

Posted by: DR.WTF at December 07, 2019 08:24 PM (aS1PU)

173 170 Heh. Just had to do it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 07, 2019 08:25 PM (C1Lsn)

174 Thanks, Bill! I will check local stores.

Posted by: Emmie at December 07, 2019 08:25 PM (87gB3)