EMT 09/22/19

Daughter uses tissue to dab nose, throws it away, uses a new one to dab nose further.

Me: You are wasting my money every time you throw away a tissue like that.

Daughter: But you have 2 jobs. You have lots of money.

Me: I'll have more if I sell you for scientific research.

Daughter: [runs crying to Mama]

Somehow I'm the bad guy here.

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1 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 06:01 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Good Morning Morons; today is Sunday, September 22, 2019. On this day in 1941 the real day (or days) of infamy took place. On the Jewish New Year Day, the German SS murdered 6,000 Jews in Vinnytsia, Ukraine. Those are the survivors of the previous killings that took place a few days earlier in which about 24,000 Jews were executed. So in just a few days they executed 30,000 Russian Jews and the world yawned.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

3
The Ukrainian foreign minister sounds off on the Trump phone call that was made. The US communists are raising hell because it involved Biden's spawn and corruption.


https://tinyurl.com/y2lyx8cp

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

4 Hiya

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:01 AM (arJlL)

5 And speaking of corrupt assholes, commie Bernie says he will use your money to pay off $81B of other people's medical bills. If you look at all the things this round of communist candidates have promised they will spend the entire federal budget for the next trillion years on socialist programs.


https://tinyurl.com/yyer8lq4

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

6 HA! Start the day with a laugh

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:01 AM (vd8XM)

7

Stupid AOC is arguing for the long cherished dream of the communist party for DC statehood thus giving the communists two more guaranteed Democrat senators and one more Rep. In the argument she spouted that DC was the first place to 'free' the slaves. Is there no subject that she is not incredibly stupid in? If they ever make DC a 'State' I want my yard to be a State.


https://tinyurl.com/yye4wvpq

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

8 Just how stupid is AOC? She is going to war with Peelousy demanding that House Democrats impeach Trump NOW! Evidently she can't count the Democrats in the Senate and see that she does not have anywhere near a 2/3 majority.


https://tinyurl.com/yyplad8n

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

9 A case challenging UN members' diplomatic immunity is making its way to SCOTUS. Reminds me of a scene in Lethal Weapon II when a man held up his UN ID card and claimed immunity was shot by Danny Glover. This was before Glover became a political asshole. I used to like him in those Lethal Weapon movies.


https://tinyurl.com/yxtuvmwl

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

10
IL cities forced to cut essential services in order to pay corrupt State employee's union generated pensions.


https://tinyurl.com/y4qejbj8

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

11 Poll says big chief Lyingwatha has overtook Biden in Iowa.


https://tinyurl.com/y44zjqjb

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

12 Number Five! I am honored and humbled to be ranked in the top ten.

Posted by: Nowut Ameen at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (/e9Kb)

13 Fat man idiot from NY Nadler says AGW is a bigger threat than WWII. The communists love them some AGW scams.


https://tinyurl.com/y2y9w7zx

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)

14 Gowdy tells Fox News that Comey will never be indicted. Probably true because Comey is a Democrat.


https://tinyurl.com/y469gtgl

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

15 Football scores from yesterday. And I see my Dawgs whupped up on Notre Dame.


https://tinyurl.com/y64b5cvw

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

16 6 AM, and its still plumb dark.

Its like lookin' up a cat's ass !

(That's what I heard !)

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:04 AM (arJlL)

17 Ramirez


https://tinyurl.com/y4ydumxv


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:04 AM (mpXpK)

18 Thanks for the news Vic!

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:06 AM (vd8XM)

19 Thanks for the news Vic!
Posted by: Bruce

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:07 AM (arJlL)

20 Football scores from yesterday. And I see my Dawgs whupped up on Notre Dame.


How come we ain't ranked Number One???

...ND Fans...

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:07 AM (vd8XM)

21

If
I still had cable I probably could have watched that game. They will televise ND but not GA.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:10 AM (mpXpK)

22 G'morning, all.

Thanks for the news, Vic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:10 AM (cqNba)

23
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 06:12 AM (b41wt)

24 22
G'morning, all.



Thanks for the news, Vic.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:10 AM (cqNba)

Yeah I should have been able to start with the news first but fking Pixy kept blocking my first post.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:13 AM (mpXpK)

25 Nadler is a joke! In fact, the entire democrat party is. It's going to be a costly joke.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:14 AM (BLFnH)

26 And they will televise pro football today and our local CBS station will carry the games from Washington and Dallas.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:14 AM (mpXpK)

27
Up, morning prayers said, dogs taken care of. Off for a shower, put on suit and tie, then off to Mass. Later, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 06:14 AM (b41wt)

28 Ah, nothing like a Monty Python line to make a kid run screaming to Mom.

Posted by: RickZ at September 22, 2019 06:15 AM (Y8PSl)

29 A couple articles around that opening Biden's can of worms isn't going to be President Trump's problem.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 06:15 AM (ZCEU2)

30 Thanks for the VNN.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:16 AM (BLFnH)

31 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2019 06:14

How did it go yesterday?

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:18 AM (BLFnH)

32 Well, after 70 years, yesterday was the last day of the Cubs broadcast on WGN TV.

They now will have their own channel which you have to pay extra for.
The Cubs are ensuring lotsa fans by ending the season just a little bit over .500
And dropping the last 5 games and not even making it as the wild card, they are back to "wait until next year...again"

Ooooo. Let me pay extra to watch them!

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:20 AM (vd8XM)

33 Well, after 70 years, yesterday was the last day of the Cubs broadcast on WGN TV.

They now will have their own channel which you have to pay extra for.
The Cubs are ensuring lotsa fans by ending the season just a little bit over .500
And dropping the last 5 games and not even making it as the wild card, they are back to "wait until next year...again"


Don't tell Grammie !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:22 AM (arJlL)

34 I really, really do not understand the hatred for Notre Dame football. If you watched the game ND stayed in it with GA. The score was 23-17. Not a whupping. All in all in was an entertaining game. It was played between the hedges. And a better outcome then expected. Too many false start penalties for the Domers, but other then that a good game.
GA has a very good team. I give them credit where credit is due. Good quarterback.


Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 22, 2019 06:22 AM (N3JsI)

35 Bruce, doesn't seem like a profit making strategy.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:22 AM (BLFnH)

36 BTW. Who was the hot blonde behind Lewindowski during the hearings?

Posted by: Redenzo at September 22, 2019 06:23 AM (14qvS)

37 Bruce, doesn't seem like a profit making strategy.
Posted by: Infidel

I enjoy watching good baseball.
But not at stupid prices

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:25 AM (vd8XM)

38 34
I really, really do not understand the hatred for Notre Dame football.
If you watched the game ND stayed in it with GA. The score was 23-17.
Not a whupping. All in all in was an entertaining game. It was played
between the hedges. And a better outcome then expected. Too many false
start penalties for the Domers, but other then that a good game.
GA has a very good team. I give them credit where credit is due. Good quarterback.




Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at September 22, 2019 06:22 AM (N3JsI)

If I had watched it GA would have lost.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:27 AM (mpXpK)

39 Nothing like forcing people to pay for a mediocre product as a business model.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 06:27 AM (ZCEU2)

40 There is always the radio.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:27 AM (BLFnH)

41 There is always the radio.
Posted by: Infidel

I tried watching the game on the radio,
Didn't care for it.

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:28 AM (vd8XM)

42 I prefer listening to baseball on the radio. Of course having Bob Uecker to entertain us makes it 100x better.

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 06:29 AM (Z/jzm)

43 CBS did carry the ND/GA game yesterday so I could have watched it if I had been willing to take a chance and go upstairs and watch it on the TV up there.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:31 AM (mpXpK)

44 Tori Amos is on Ovation, I like her and she can play a piano

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 06:31 AM (ZCEU2)

45 The whole Biden-Trump-Ukraine situation illustrates in clear and stark terms that the media are corrupt Democrat apparatchiks.
Biden is on tape literally saying he used the pressure of losing aid on Ukraine to drop an investigation involving his son and the media just tries to flip it as a Trump scandal when he wants it rightly re-visited.

This also illustrates the stark danger of the Deep State as it applies to Trump.


They are monitoring and watching every move he makes and is essentially a President operating with under extreme duress with enemies both internal and external to the executive branch.

This situation is extremely dangerous and must end.

Posted by: Gossamer Penguin at September 22, 2019 06:31 AM (jknEL)

46 Beginning to get light.

Big half-moon up there.

Somebody stole the other half.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:33 AM (arJlL)

47 Remember when going to the County Fair was a fun filled family event?

Yeh...not so much, any more.

https://bit.ly/2lYTGxr

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:34 AM (cqNba)

48 'The whole Biden-Trump-Ukraine situation illustrates in clear and stark terms that the media are corrupt Democrat apparatchiks.'

SSDD. Dems are the USA's worst enemies.

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2019 06:34 AM (Tnijr)

49 I prefer listening to baseball on radio. Often, will listen to radio and mute TV if I can get the televised broadcast. Unfortunately, several years ago MLB sold play-offs radio broadcast rights to ESPN. So, if your team makes play-offs you can't listen to your local announcers. Screw MLB/ESPN.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 06:34 AM (gzG43)

50 Fortunately, Frederick County Officials determined that an earlier threat of violence at the County Fair was unfounded.

https://bit.ly/2kYCiZp

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:36 AM (cqNba)

51 There is a radio station in Atlanta that carries all those GA games and if a big storm had not blown down my long wire antenna I could have listened to it on my ICO-R71A which used to be able to pick up Atlanta AM in the daytime.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:36 AM (mpXpK)

52 I do wonder how a Haitian victim of cholera from a Napalese UN person finds standing in US courts.

Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 06:37 AM (0LxiW)

53 That should be ICOM-R71A

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:38 AM (mpXpK)

54 Debating if i should make scones this morning. Been craving them but can't find any bakery nearby that makes them. Got all the stuff...

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 06:39 AM (Z/jzm)

55 The ND/GA game was broadcast over the air on CBS.

Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 06:40 AM (0LxiW)

56 Home made baked goods are fantastic

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (ZCEU2)

57 52
I do wonder how a Haitian victim of cholera from a Napalese UN person finds standing in US courts.


Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 06:37 AM (0LxiW)

My understanding was that that Nepalese AH gave it to 2,000 peopl in the US. So all that Haitian had to be was in the US either legally or illegally.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (mpXpK)

58 Debating if i should make scones this morning. Been craving them but can't find any bakery nearby that makes them. Got all the stuff...
Posted by: My life is insanity

Whoa !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (arJlL)

59 CBS used to do AFC games with FOX doing NFC games. Did something change?

Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (0LxiW)

60 From the county fair story. Two utes doing the knockout "game"

"The Great Frederick Fair's number one priority is the safety and security of our guests," officials stated in a post on the fair's Facebook Page. "To dispel rumors of the events of last night, while there was an assault, there was NO shooting and NO stabbing. The team of security and law enforcement was able to respond rapidly to control and contain the incident. The investigation into this incident remains active and any further information regarding the assault will be released from the Sheriff's Office."

No shooting
No Stabbing
Well that's a relief. They only killed the guy with their fists

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:43 AM (vd8XM)

61 NFL games are being covered by a combination of ESPN, NBC and Fox Sports this year. ESPN and Fox Sports only available on cable of Satellite.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:45 AM (mpXpK)

62 Found a basic recipe, can add in any stuff you may want. Have blueberries. Have craisins and an orange. Have appkes and cinnamon. Batch makes enough to divide it and make different flavors.

Ok. Convinced myself. Gonna do it.
BBL

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 06:46 AM (Z/jzm)

63 "No shooting
No Stabbing
Well that's a relief. They only killed the guy with their fists "

So...a mostly violence free murder...mostly.

Welcome to the insanity which is the greater Baltimore/Washington co-reality sphere.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:46 AM (cqNba)

64 Ok. Convinced myself. Gonna do it.
BBL
Posted by: My life is insanity

I'm hearing the Rocky Theme while you're making them

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:47 AM (vd8XM)

65 So...a mostly violence free murder...mostly.

Welcome to the insanity which is the greater Baltimore/Washington co-reality sphere.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

Will it be a hate crime?
Or, just a "I don't like you too much" crime?

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:49 AM (vd8XM)

66 Haha I "ran" down the stairs with that in my head. Thanks Bruce!

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 06:50 AM (Z/jzm)

67 Ok. Convinced myself. Gonna do it.
BBL
Posted by: My life is insanity

I'm hearing the Rocky Theme while you're making them
Posted by: Bruce

My stomach is growling the Rocky theme !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:51 AM (arJlL)

68 65
So...a mostly violence free murder...mostly.



Welcome to the insanity which is the greater Baltimore/Washington co-reality sphere.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



Will it be a hate crime?

Or, just a "I don't like you too much" crime?

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:49 AM (vd8XM

Black on white is almost NEVER a hate crime.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:51 AM (mpXpK)

69 "Will it be a hate crime?
Or, just a "I don't like you too much" crime?"

It's pretty amazing how Law Enforcement parses the information around here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:52 AM (cqNba)

70 My stomach is growling the Rocky theme !
Posted by: JT

That ain't your stomach doing the tympani part though

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:52 AM (vd8XM)

71 'No shooting
No Stabbing
Well that's a relief. They only killed the guy with their fists'

Well of course. There are no guns allowed at the fair. Ever try to kill someone with cotton candy?

Posted by: Frederick Fair Felon at September 22, 2019 06:53 AM (Tnijr)

72 the scones reminds me I am out of Rhodes cinnamon rolls. Those things are great.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:58 AM (BLFnH)

73 Shit I was worried more about getting those 6 am posts out and forgot to do my pills and shots this morning. Oh, well an hour late not too bad.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:58 AM (mpXpK)

74 Gowdy tells Fox News that Comey will never be indicted. Probably true because Comey is a Democrat.

Because Gowdy doesn't know what an indictment looks like.

If someone were to walk into Times Square in the middle of the day and shoot ten people. That person would want Gowdy to be the prosecutor because the shooter would be back on the streets free before the paperwork is even complete.

Also, the justice legal court system is so dysfunctional and corrupt that the jurors would probably indict the prosecutor for wasting their time.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 06:58 AM (lD3vL)

75 LOL krak. I suppose we all have our own 'kids rant'. Mine was light switches.

I see little value in having an On/Off switch.

Since I'm THE ONLY ONE in the house that can use the Off switch. I should just change them all to On switches.

Or I could have just sold the kids for medical research. That would've worked too. Heh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 22, 2019 06:59 AM (Z4rgH)

76 Well, shit. 5am and the paper isn't here.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:00 AM (BLFnH)

77 Eh, 1 hour or the other can't matter that much

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:01 AM (ZCEU2)

78 CBS used to do AFC games with FOX doing NFC games. Did something change?
Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (0LxiW)

When I was a kid, CBS did NFL, NBC did AFL, ABC did nothing (until Monday Night Football).

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 07:06 AM (H8QX8)

79 I want my yard to be a State.

Lawns are racist Vic, and built on the backs of slaves.

No, really! I read about this in Nolte's column at Breitbart, about the various fuckups at the NY Slimes this summer, and that was one of their 'articles'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 22, 2019 07:11 AM (Z4rgH)

80 Singapore Grand Prix starts at 8am, Eagles at 1pm. Only saw some of 3rd quarter 1st week, nothing of last week's night game.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:13 AM (ZCEU2)

81 Heh, Alaska is the 3rd state to cancel the republican primary in favor of Trump.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:13 AM (BLFnH)

82 79
I want my yard to be a State.



Lawns are racist Vic, and built on the backs of slaves.



No, really! I read about this in Nolte's column at Breitbart, about
the various fuckups at the NY Slimes this summer, and that was one of
their 'articles'.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 22, 2019 07:11 AM (Z4rgH)

Well my yard probably used to be part of a Plantation so it is automatically racist.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 07:14 AM (mpXpK)

83 "Heh, Alaska is the 3rd state to cancel the republican primary in favor of Trump."

Not sure exactly how I feel about that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 07:15 AM (cqNba)

84 81
Heh, Alaska is the 3rd state to cancel the republican primary in favor of Trump.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:13 AM (BLFnH)

Contrary to what the communists and the fake Republicans are putting out they are doing this to save money. The Parties have to pay the costs of primaries in most States and a primary while having your Party is power is a waste of money.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 07:17 AM (mpXpK)

85 VIA, well, maybe it's a money saving scheme. They say he's an incumbent.

I see your point though.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:17 AM (BLFnH)

86 global warming worse than a world war:

we've got the missiles, we know where their coal power plants are - if we lob 1,000 cruise missiles into their plants now, we'll catch 'em with their pants down. i'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed, but 20 million tops.

and what's that compared to the billions who'll die in a few years if we don't act now?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 07:17 AM (Pg+x7)

87 No more Cubs on WGN. I'm glad my grandma isn't alive to witness this outrage. Now what are they going to do with the Go Cubs Go song? Oh, nevermind. They only sing that when they win. Bitter? Not I.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2019 07:19 AM (lwiT4)

88 No more Cubs on WGN. I'm glad my grandma isn't alive to witness this outrage. Now what are they going to do with the Go Cubs Go song? Oh, nevermind. They only sing that when they win. Bitter? Not I.
Posted by: grammie winger

You mean you don't want to spend extra money to watch them?
For shame!

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 07:20 AM (vd8XM)

89 Mornin grammy. Sorry about your Cubs.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:20 AM (BLFnH)

90 And now one questions this

I said, Youre not getting the billion. Im going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said Im leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, youre not getting the money, Biden said he told Poroshenko.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:20 AM (JFO2v)

91 My daughter has these light switches that turn on automagically when you enter a room. They also turn off by themselves when no activity is detected.
Problem solved.

Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 07:20 AM (0LxiW)

92 63 "No shooting
No Stabbing
Well that's a relief. They only killed the guy with their fists "

So...a mostly violence free murder...mostly.

Welcome to the insanity which is the greater Baltimore/Washington co-reality sphere.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



Yep. There are gangs of yutes that are randomly attacking people on the subway. They had video of some poor guy who got thrown on to the tracks of the Metro (Navy Yards I think). Another college kid got beat up up in Georgetown by yutes of indeterminate race.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 07:21 AM (ce3ya)

93 And they will televise pro football today and our local CBS station will carry the games from Washington and Dallas.

That is interesting.

According to the NFL, Dallas/Dolphins is on FOX
And Washington plays on Monday Night (ESPN).

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 07:21 AM (lD3vL)

94 Thanks infidel. They stink. I am quite accustomed to this.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 22, 2019 07:21 AM (lwiT4)

95 So I was talking to our neighbor, who works for a Federal organization which is involved in world health, and had just returned from this area of the world. And had first hand knowledge of these events.

His explanations was along the lines of ' After the patient died, they truthfully reported that there were nonactive cases in the country'.

His view of governments and news organizations is about as jaded as mine is.

https://bit.ly/2mt2V9p

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 07:21 AM (cqNba)

96 94 Kinda like beating your head against the wall. I know the feeling.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:22 AM (BLFnH)

97 Thanks infidel. They stink. I am quite accustomed to this.
Posted by: grammie winger

The problem with them winning the World Series, is like the Bears winning the Super Bowl in 1986.

All prices got jacked up with the promise of better days.

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 07:24 AM (vd8XM)

98 93 And they will televise pro football today and our local CBS station will carry the games from Washington and Dallas.

That is interesting.

According to the NFL, Dallas/Dolphins is on FOX
And Washington plays on Monday Night (ESPN).

Posted by: at September 22, 2019 07:21 AM (lD3vL)


Our local station always carries Washington and Dallas and never the Atlanta game unless one of those two teams are playing Atlanta. We actually called them from work one Sunday and they said nobody wanted to watch Atlanta. I told them they were fill of sh*t.


Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 07:26 AM (mpXpK)

99 ha!

The University of North Carolina at Charlotte hosted a white privilege workshop where only nine students reportedly showed up despite 30,000 students enrolled at the school

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:27 AM (JFO2v)

100 "Heh, Alaska is the 3rd state to cancel the republican primary in favor of Trump."

Not sure exactly how I feel about that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 07:15 AM (cqNba)


As usual, there is precedent:

"Look this is nothing that hasn't happened with both parties when you have an incumbent president on the ballot," Lotter said. "I think in 2012, ten states canceled their Democrat primaries when Obama was on the ticket. In 2004, ten states canceled the Republican Party's primaries, when George W. was on the ballot."

Washington Examiner, 9/11/2019

https://tinyurl.com/yy5me9e4

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 22, 2019 07:27 AM (Z4rgH)

101 98 93 And they will televise pro football today and our local CBS station will carry the games from Washington and Dallas.

That is interesting.

According to the NFL, Dallas/Dolphins is on FOX
And Washington plays on Monday Night (ESPN).

Posted by: at September 22, 2019 07:21 AM (lD3vL)


Our local station always carries Washington and Dallas and never the Atlanta game unless one of those two teams are playing Atlanta. We actually called them from work one Sunday and they said nobody wanted to watch Atlanta. I told them they were fill of sh*t.


Posted by: Vic



I work with an Atlantan and he's a huge Falcons fan. So they do exist.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 07:29 AM (ce3ya)

102 CBS used to do AFC games with FOX doing NFC games. Did something change?
Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (0LxiW)

When I was a kid, CBS did NFL, NBC did AFL, ABC did nothing (until Monday Night Football).


Now it something like CBS does AFC, FOX does NFC, NBC does a late game on Sunday, ESPN takes the Monday Night Game, and the "NFL Channel" has something on Thursday Night.

Fortunately I don't have a television so I don't care.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 07:29 AM (lD3vL)

103 I went to NC State in Raleigh for a few classes years ago. Their enrollment is around 35,000. I had to walk a long way to get to classes.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 07:30 AM (mpXpK)

104 I remember the dog days of 1980 when 2500 in the stands was a common thing. I recall bill buckner crying into his glove wondering just what in the hell he did to get traded from LA to the Cubs.
I remember a dave "strikeouts galore" kingman strinking out out 4 times for every homerun he hit.
Those were the days.

Posted by: A steve dillard throwing error at September 22, 2019 07:30 AM (vqIkG)

105 Offices these days mostly get automatic out light switches, they do often seem quirky if your still and will go out on you.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:31 AM (ZCEU2)

106 91 My daughter has these light switches that turn on automagically when you enter a room. They also turn off by themselves when no activity is detected.
Problem solved.
Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 07:20 AM (0LxiW)

I bought a house a builder built then never lived in. Had switches in the closet doors. most excellent

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:32 AM (JFO2v)

107 kimbrel ... saw that coming. and they're paying him $45 million???

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 07:33 AM (Pg+x7)

108 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2019 07:35 AM (Ki5SV)

109 Those were the days.
Posted by: A steve dillard throwing error

Yeah. If it was a nice day and you decided to go to the game, no problem getting a good seat

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 07:35 AM (vd8XM)

110 106 I bought a house a builder built then never lived in. Had switches in the closet doors. most excellent

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:32 AM (JFO2v)

I looked at a house that an electrician had built and he wired it himself. It had switches and electrical outlets everywhere. I loved it and would have bought it but it was tied up in a fight between brothers over the inheritance. I don't even know why they were showing it.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 07:35 AM (mpXpK)

111 G'mornin' Horde !

67 degrees, raining.

Glad I got some range time yesterday to honor International Peace Day.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 22, 2019 07:35 AM (c1yAg)

112 kimbrel... hmmm... set him up in a honey trap and void the contract on a morals charge. i'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed, but 20 days of bad p.r., tops.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 07:36 AM (Pg+x7)

113 new news

whistleblower didnt have direct knowledge of the communications

so the tattletell heard a story outside of work and used whistlecockblower status

ok

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:37 AM (JFO2v)

114 Debating if i should make scones this morning. Been craving them but can't find any bakery nearby that makes them. Got all the stuff...
Posted by: My life is insanity

Whoa !
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (arJlL)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2019 07:37 AM (Ki5SV)

115 Debating if i should make scones this morning. Been craving them but can't find any bakery nearby that makes them. Got all the stuff...
Posted by: My life is insanity

Whoa !
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:41 AM (arJlL)


Damn it. I meant to say there's an Italian bakery near me that makes blueberry scones.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2019 07:37 AM (Ki5SV)

116 Only 42 here. Not looking forward to winter.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:38 AM (BLFnH)

117 At a department store just finished in the break room even the outlets had timers on them you could only have 30 minutes on before they had to be reset, heard it was to stop employees using them to recharge cell phones.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:39 AM (ZCEU2)

118 "Offices these days mostly get automatic out light switches, they do often seem quirky if your still and will go out on you.'

A few weeks ago I worked on some equipment in a room with one of those motion activated switches. The had a file cabinet right in front of the switch, so every minute I had to wave my hand in front of it to get the lights to come back on. No one there could tell me how to override the timer, so I just dealt with it and got out of there.

This was at a college. Yeah.

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2019 07:40 AM (Tnijr)

119 "This was at a college. Yeah."

Them folks be smart.

And shit.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 07:41 AM (cqNba)

120 As a lifelong Crimson Tide fan, the ND hatred stems from two things - the fawning coverage they get from media ( like the current Dems) regardless of the product on the field and the travesty of awarding them the 1966 national title over Bama which was the two time defending champ and finished undefeated that year - a purely media driven event. Yes I am still bitter.

Posted by: rammajamma at September 22, 2019 07:42 AM (SwWMX)

121 118
"Offices these days mostly get automatic out light switches, they do often seem quirky if your still and will go out on you.'



A few weeks ago I worked on some equipment in a room with one of
those motion activated switches. The had a file cabinet right in front
of the switch, so every minute I had to wave my hand in front of it to
get the lights to come back on. No one there could tell me how to
override the timer, so I just dealt with it and got out of there.



This was at a college. Yeah.

Posted by: freaked at September 22, 2019 07:40 AM (Tnijr)

If I had a house like that the first thing I would do is replace all the light switches.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 07:42 AM (mpXpK)

122 Turn off the light! was pounded into my head as a kid. Sometimes at high volume.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:42 AM (BLFnH)

123 Good morning, I guess, good people.

Looks like a rain out on the gig this afternoon. Or not.
Still have to do all the get ready for it stuff if in case we get a for sure 11am to 6pm window in the rain.

Not likely but be prepared.

Bad part besides the not getting to play too.
An interesting woman who seemed to be quite taken with me at last Saturday's gig said she was going to be there.

I didn't get her number because I wanted to spend a bit more time talking with her first.
I mean, if she's interested in me, that's a "Danger Will Robinson" sign, right?

Posted by: teej at September 22, 2019 07:44 AM (EVeeU)

124 So my daughter (only grandchild) was at my parents house.

She is going in and out the patio door leaving it open

I say hey shut the door

She looks at me and says Dad you know Papaw does not enforce the rules

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:45 AM (JFO2v)

125 Good morning Glories!

We got on the levelized billing plan with our electric company. Our bill is about the same amount every month. Getting our ducks in order before retirement.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 07:46 AM (u6t70)

126 Saw that ace finally tired of that YouTube weirdo movie critic Race Grandolph or Gran Racedolph, whatever. I recall looking at one or two of her vids way back when ace first linked her long ago and actually couldn't stand her right out of the gate. Are any of y'all fans of her?

Posted by: Nut's Fairy Barn at September 22, 2019 07:48 AM (aLsSh)

127 ALH, Good on you. I was finally able to do that with nat gas. You have to live here a year before they will do that. Dad's bills didn't count. Not sure I can do it with the elec. as it is a coop. Seems expensive as hell, too.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 07:48 AM (BLFnH)

128 Anyone else peruse the rest of WJLA's site? Also some outstanding video of a group of black teens attacking an older white guy trying to walk into a hotel.

Sure seems if you reversed that negative, it'd be a hate crime.

Oh, and a dude impregnated a 10-year-old.

Posted by: TheHoser at September 22, 2019 07:49 AM (v3UCk)

129 I watched ESPN night before last for the first time in many years (Indians vs Phillies). I have to give credit, their camera work is very good, but after five minutes of their play by play commentary, it was the mute button. It was like Fox and Friends with baseball.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 22, 2019 07:50 AM (C1Lsn)

130 Notre Dame.....Posted by: rammajamma



Same here. Funny how many people hate them for practically having a network devoted to their games. My normally mild mannered dad in law is hilariously anti-ND to the point he will cuss if they're on in his home.

Posted by: Nut's Fairy Barn at September 22, 2019 07:52 AM (Nhgq4)

131 Those are the best kind, Teej.

Posted by: TheHoser at September 22, 2019 07:53 AM (v3UCk)

132 Infidel, our house is all electric. It was custom built for another older couples retirement, they were from Michigan and used a lot of insulation during construction. We like that.
I would love to have a gas fireplace. Hubs said we could do that using a propane tank, and maybe we will.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 07:53 AM (u6t70)

133

A little Dab will Do Ya.


sniff sniff is it wonderful Monday yet or will I just watch a treasure trove of Brit FOOTBALL, Formula 1, some fake football NFL,PGA Golf and PRAWN PUB marinated in a few flagons of Hollandia Extra Strength Dutch beer bombs,naw the gutters need de-leef-ed a lawn mown and a buncha dusting takes priority......................................

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 07:53 AM (5IHGB)

134 I watch football but listen to radio or nothing, announcers generally suck.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:54 AM (ZCEU2)

135 Morning all.
On this Ukraine thing, did anyone else get the idea that if Trump had called the Ukraine to say that Biden should be investigated, it was to countermand the previous Presidential message to NOT investigate Biden. That would kind of explode in the faces of idiots calling for investigations and impeachment and lead to the "are you saying Obama should be prosecuted?" moment.
Or I need more coffee.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at September 22, 2019 07:55 AM (bIrK9)

136 Phillies baseball radio use to be excellent, still probably very good .

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:55 AM (ZCEU2)

137 115
I meant to say there's an Italian bakery near me that makes blueberry scones.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2019 07:37 AM (Ki5SV)


I thought scones were English. Isn't that cultural appropriation?

Posted by: rickl at September 22, 2019 07:56 AM (sdi6R)

138 If I had a house like that the first thing I would do is replace all the light switches.

I was an early adopter of that crap and thought at the time it would be great. Problem is, the first generation stuff was based on IR so it detected changes in heat to determine if someone was nearby.

Which also meant that it detected when the furnace or A/C started moving around air.

It was like the house was haunted.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 07:56 AM (lD3vL)

139 135 see 90

Bidet admitted he called off the dogs

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:57 AM (JFO2v)

140 The way it's explained by a few it's President Trump's prerogative calling Ukraine or anyone else, it's his job. It's all a smoke screen trying to push Biden's crime onto Trump.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:58 AM (ZCEU2)

141 *alert* *alert*
saf escaped from the bin. again.
*alert* *alert*

Posted by: AoS 911 at September 22, 2019 07:58 AM (vqIkG)

142 at the BEE

Trudeau Claims He Was Known As 'Corn Pop' Until A Cool White Dude Turned His Life Around

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:00 AM (JFO2v)

143 On this Ukraine thing, did anyone else get the idea that if Trump had called the Ukraine to say that Biden should be investigated, it was to countermand the previous Presidential message to NOT investigate Biden. That would kind of explode in the faces of idiots calling for investigations and impeachment and lead to the "are you saying Obama should be prosecuted?" moment.
Or I need more coffee.


I was more impressed that Biden as a VP had the authority to arbitrarily make billion dollar bribes using tax dollars to protect his pervert son.

The current POTUS can't even move a nickle around to improve national security.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 08:00 AM (lD3vL)

144 WJLA

Didn't search out the sickos but found a cool article on Benchmark A for the Washington Monument.

Thanks.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 08:01 AM (BLFnH)

145 140 The way it's explained by a few it's President Trump's prerogative calling Ukraine or anyone else, it's his job. It's all a smoke screen trying to push Biden's crime onto Trump.
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 07:58 AM (ZCEU2)

Same story as is Trumps fault that Bhussein spied on him illegally.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:01 AM (JFO2v)

146 132 I would love to have a gas fireplace. Hubs said we could do that using a propane tank, and maybe we will.

Posted by: ALH at September 22, 2019 07:53 AM (u6t70)

If you do not have natural gas that can be piped in don't do it. Delivered propane is high. I have gas logs off a 90 gal tank and I only run it in the Winter if we lose power.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 08:02 AM (mpXpK)

147 >>>I meant to say there's an Italian bakery near me that makes blueberry scones.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2019 07:37 AM (Ki5SV)

Sadly no decent bakery too close. Found a recipe online, and are in the oven as we "speak." They look good, so far! Blueberry and also cranberry orange.

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 08:02 AM (Z/jzm)

148 A question about the ONT's joke. Has "school report" replaced "report card", or does it mean something different?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 08:03 AM (VaN/j)

149 Same as it was Trump's fault wanting to look into Hillary emails

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:03 AM (ZCEU2)

150 Jordan Peterson is asked about climate change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbvehbomrY

The person asking the question in a very hard way is no-doubt bringing up something that wasn't on the venue, as a climate-botherer would. She's a fool to do this to someone as contentious as him, who grew up in such a cold place.

Peterson has a lot of Steven Pinker type optimism, despite being dour in general.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 08:03 AM (LxTcq)

151 That Trudeau article in the Bee is hilarious.

"Smokey recalls how this moment transformed Corn Pop’s life, teaching him the power of friendship and forgiveness. From that day forward, Corn Pop was determined to become prime minister of the most powerful country ever to be adjacent to the greatest country on earth."

Heya Horde.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 08:03 AM (kQs4Y)

152 Hmmm, life advice from a Hoser.

I see nothing on that in the style guide.
Maybe a ruling from a trusted source?
Sis?

Posted by: teej at September 22, 2019 08:03 AM (EVeeU)

153 Bidet admitted he called off the dogsPosted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 07:57 AM (JFO2v)

True enough and I had seen that clip a few months ago.The cynic in me says the two events are not mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Carpe Manana at September 22, 2019 08:04 AM (bIrK9)

154 Morning all...

Finally Joe Biden says something veeeeery interesting...

@mviser

Joe Biden tonight on the transition to Trump: "We encouraged a lot of people to stay in the administration who weren't really so excited about staying. Generals, particularly. Members of the armed services. Because we knew the man who was coming in had no experience."

Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2019 08:04 AM (cF8AT)

155 And speaking of corrupt assholes, commie Bernie says he will use your money to pay off $81B of other people's medical bills. If you look at all the things this round of communist candidates have promised they will spend the entire federal budget for the next trillion years on socialist programs.

--

They are all pretty much full-on communists now. They aren't even hiding it. They just haven't uttered the word yet. Yet...

Funny, but I was reading bio information on Olivia De Haviland last night. I know she lives in France now. I know she's 103. But it struck me as funny when I read she was a "staunch liberal Democrat and anti-communist." Uh...I think she has a problem.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 22, 2019 08:04 AM (JoUsr)

156 No bakery can be "too close".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 08:04 AM (kQs4Y)

157 ALH at September 22, 2019 07:53

Do it. I really miss my pellet stove, but this house has a gas fireplace. It is wonderful!

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 08:04 AM (BLFnH)

158 The media is pi$$ed about Trump calling the Ukraine and asking them to re-open the investigation into binden's son. They had a clip of biden nearly slobbering calling Trump all sorts of names.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 22, 2019 08:05 AM (JUOKG)

159 It's amazing how the Brewers keep finding great pitching for pennies on the dollar and the Cubs keep pissing away millions on guys like Kimbrel and Darvish. Who's making these genius moves?

Posted by: Pete Seria at September 22, 2019 08:05 AM (7ZQe3)

160 Pathetic deplorables whining to each other. You need to learn who runs you. YOUR BETTERS, THAT'S WHO! GET BACK TO WORK, SLAVES! HA HAHAHAHAHA--

*loses balance on level flooring, falls out of walker, projectile sharts onto small dog*

Posted by: Madame Cackleshart, drunken alternate reality POTUS at September 22, 2019 08:05 AM (ldmQR)

161 You have to admit that for such a small college, ND generally puts together a good team. Of course, every Catholic in the midwest wants to be on their team.

Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 08:06 AM (0LxiW)

162 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 08:06 AM (cknjq)

163 Oh, look, Larry Storch is on Mannix.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2019 08:08 AM (oVJmc)

164 My father owned a bakery while I was growing up. He worked nights and would come home in the morning. He would call and ask me what I wanted for breakfast. I bet I was the only kid in school who had fresh chocolate eclairs.

Posted by: Sharon at September 22, 2019 08:09 AM (QzF6i)

165 I see 2 killed, 8 injured at a sports bar in Lancaster SC, roundabout Vic's area

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:10 AM (ZCEU2)

166 Spartacus needs $1.7 M

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:10 AM (JFO2v)

167

That's NOT a FAIR,it's FIGHT CLUB and Biden kicked ass his own ass.

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 08:10 AM (5IHGB)

168 As a lifelong Crimson Tide fan, the ND hatred stems
from two things - the fawning coverage they get from media ( like the
current Dems) regardless of the product on the field and the travesty of
awarding them the 1966 national title over Bama which was the two time
defending champ and finished undefeated that year - a purely media
driven event. Yes I am still bitter.

Posted by: rammajamma at September 22, 2019 07:42 AM (SwWMX)

---
In the Olden Thymes, there were multiple selectors of national titles. A team that won all of them was all a "consensus national champ." Didn't happen often.

Michigan State got a piece of that 1966 action, and though you'll hate me for bringing this up, one reason Bama wasn't favored was that they were a segregated team. MSU did very well because (to his credit) Bear Bryant referred the black players he couldn't play to Duffy Daugherty.

The end of segregation in college football had the side effect of wrecking the Spartans' talent pipeline.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:11 AM (cfSRQ)

169 167

That's NOT a FAIR,it's FIGHT CLUB and Biden kicked ass his own ass.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 08:10 AM (5IHGB)

Rule #1 There is no F**** C***

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:11 AM (JFO2v)

170 My father owned a bakery while I was growing up. He worked nights and would come home in the morning. He would call and ask me what I wanted for breakfast. I bet I was the only kid in school who had fresh chocolate eclairs.
Posted by: Sharon

----

I had one next door growing up and Mom would stop after working midnights as a Labor and Delivery nurse. Italian bread still warm from the oven every day. She'd put the butter on with a monster pastry brush.

Le sigh.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2019 08:12 AM (Y4EXg)

171 My father owned a bakery while I was growing up. He worked nights and would come home in the morning. He would call and ask me what I wanted for breakfast. I bet I was the only kid in school who had fresh chocolate eclairs.
Posted by: Sharon at September 22, 2019 08:09 AM (QzF6i)


Oh, yum, I'm envious.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 08:12 AM (BLFnH)

172 165
I see 2 killed, 8 injured at a sports bar in Lancaster SC, roundabout Vic's area

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:10 AM (ZCEU2)

That is a suburb of Charlotte and is a good distance from me and is 50% black.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 08:12 AM (mpXpK)

173 The dog is feverishly trying to extract cheese balls and a Milk Bone from the Kong. He's done more work in the last 10 minutes than I expect to do all day.

Posted by: Utility muffin at September 22, 2019 08:12 AM (ldmQR)

174 164 My father owned a bakery while I was growing up. He worked nights and would come home in the morning. He would call and ask me what I wanted for breakfast. I bet I was the only kid in school who had fresh chocolate eclairs.
Posted by: Sharon at September 22, 2019 08:09 AM (QzF6i)

My father sold Maryland Club Coffee Minute Maid and HiC

We went to school hyped up like crack addicts.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:13 AM (JFO2v)

175 >> My father owned a bakery while I was growing up. He worked nights and would come home in the morning. He would call and ask me what I wanted for breakfast. I bet I was the only kid in school who had fresh chocolate eclairs.
Posted by: Sharon at September 22, 2019 08:09 AM (QzF6i)


Oh, yum, I'm envious.
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 08:12 AM (BLFnH)

Me too!

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 08:14 AM (Z/jzm)

176 Oh, and 'morning everyone.

After posting here yesterday I pretty much sacked out. I've been pushing my recovery too fast and so spent the bulk of the day in an unconscious state, only rousing myself late in the afternoon.

So I missed the MiMoMe as well as Michigan's epic thrashing at the hands of the Badgers. So sad.

And I crashed early, so didn't see the results of the evening games.

BOLD STATEMENT: Jim Harbaugh isn't a good or average coach, but a bad one. He does less with more, every year. Never less than a top ten recruiting class, never gets a top ten finish. Guy pads his win totals by pounding basement-dwellers and then loses - often spectacularly - against peer-level teams. His two wins against State were against some of our weakest teams in the last 20 years and both were very close games. Even a 3-9 squad gave him a run for his money.

The guy is objectively bad.

Which is great, as far as I'm concerned. Renew his contract!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:15 AM (cfSRQ)

177 166
Spartacus needs $1.7 M

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:10 AM (JFO2v)

---
Seeing as his "girlfriend" had to be pushed to endorse him, I'm not surprised.

I'd recommend he see Top Donor Ed Buck, but I guess the guy's been sidelined.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:17 AM (cfSRQ)

178 Don't know if this is staged or not, but if not...hahaha!

https://tinyurl.com/y49lwwt6

Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2019 08:17 AM (cF8AT)

179 Dad sold institutional food to restaurants, schools, hospitals.

He would always bring home #10 can samples. I remember for a while we had a hot fudge machine. OMG, kids dream.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 08:17 AM (BLFnH)

180 So krak, how much did you get for her?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 22, 2019 08:18 AM (HaL55)

181 Oh, you privileged kids with your bakery connections! I didn't have that, but my mom worked for a while at a local dairy. She would bring home the best, creamiest fresh milk I have ever had. And I don't even like milk. My privilege ends there.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 22, 2019 08:18 AM (JoUsr)

182 159 It's amazing how the Brewers keep finding great pitching for pennies on the dollar and the Cubs keep pissing away millions on guys like Kimbrel and Darvish. Who's making these genius moves?
Posted by: Pete Seria at September 22, 2019 08:05 AM (7ZQe3)
--------

I don't know how Counsel/Sterns do it but they know how to get the team to finish strong. Did it last year and doing it again this year. Wow. Loving it.

Now, if the Cardinals would just lose a few games!

Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2019 08:19 AM (OAlmw)

183 If you built a great fortune in America, I guarantee you built it at least in part using workers all of us helped pay to educate," Warren said during a campaign event in Iowa on Friday.

Really stupid argument. As you were growing up your parents paid their socalled fair share of taxes for schools and roads and teachers.

This is almost like reparations. Even though the sacrifice was made years ago, by people that may now be dead, you are indebted to the government.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:19 AM (JFO2v)

184 Poll says big chief Lyingwatha has overtook Biden in Iowa.


https://tinyurl.com/y44zjqjb

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (mpXpK)


I really want Squaw Liz to be the nominee. I want the RINOs and country club Republicans I know who claim to be so oh soooooo progressive and just hate hate hate the Orange Man have to figure out what to do with the squaw running because they are afraid she'll scalp 'em and take all of their wampum.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 08:19 AM (nbCPX)

185 The guy is objectively bad.

Which is great, as far as I'm concerned. Renew his contract!


He's teaching his players character.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 08:19 AM (lD3vL)

186 Just saw that shooting was at the SC / NC border


Spartacus is a very heterosexual guy you know, he never fails to tell us.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:20 AM (ZCEU2)

187 Oh you 1 percenters with your childhood "food"!

We would draw pictures of food in the dirt then pretend to eat it because we couldn't afford to waste dirt.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 08:20 AM (cknjq)

188 Blue bird, how on earth did you flip your nic upside down?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 22, 2019 08:21 AM (JoUsr)

189 179 Dad sold institutional food to restaurants, schools, hospitals.

He would always bring home #10 can samples. I remember for a while we had a hot fudge machine. OMG, kids dream.
Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 08:17 AM (BLFnH)

like living in a Golden Corral

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:21 AM (JFO2v)

190 Now, if the Cardinals would just lose a few games!

Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2019 08:19 AM (OAlmw)


Hey...hey! You hush you!

Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2019 08:21 AM (cF8AT)

191 Dad used to bring home iron pellets from the foundry. Add some milk and ya got some good cereal.
Nice and crunchy.

Posted by: John Henry at September 22, 2019 08:22 AM (vqIkG)

192 "Blue bird, how on earth did you flip your nic upside down?"

He's using an Australian server?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

193 I went to NC State in Raleigh for a few classes years ago. Their enrollment is around 35,000. I had to walk a long way to get to classes.
Posted by: Vic

Uphiil both ways ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 08:23 AM (arJlL)

194 186
Just saw that shooting was at the SC / NC border





Spartacus is a very heterosexual guy you know, he never fails to tell us.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 08:20 AM (ZCEU2)

That means it was in the greater Charlotte area, a Democrat stronghold. Figures.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 08:23 AM (mpXpK)

195 91 My daughter has these light switches that turn on automagically when you enter a room. They also turn off by themselves when no activity is detected.
Problem solved.
Posted by: JAS at September 22, 2019 07:20 AM (0LxiW)

Problem is if you're sitting there reading.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 08:24 AM (yDjHx)

196 Charlotte blows chunks. I hate that place.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 22, 2019 08:24 AM (JoUsr)

197 Really stupid argument. As you were growing up your
parents paid their socalled fair share of taxes for schools and roads
and teachers.



This is almost like reparations. Even though the sacrifice was made
years ago, by people that may now be dead, you are indebted to the
government.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:19 AM (JFO2v)

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Agreed.

A substantial amount of taxpayers now pay no federal income tax, but EVERYONE pays school taxes. It's either through property, income or sale, (in Michigan, all three!).

So for her to start doing this number is really, really dumb.

The :"Vote for me, I'll take everything to have and give it to illegal immigrants" approach is something I did *not* see coming.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:24 AM (cfSRQ)

198 193 I went to NC State in Raleigh for a few classes years ago. Their enrollment is around 35,000. I had to walk a long way to get to classes.
Posted by: Vic

Uphiil both ways ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 08:23 AM (arJlL)

In the Tar!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 08:25 AM (JFO2v)

199 196
Charlotte blows chunks. I hate that place.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 22, 2019 08:24 AM (JoUsr)

I have a BIL who lives there. He and his wife are liberal as Hell.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 08:25 AM (mpXpK)

200 187
Oh you 1 percenters with your childhood "food"!



We would draw pictures of food in the dirt then pretend to eat it because we couldn't afford to waste dirt.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 08:20 AM (cknjq)

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Luxury!


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:26 AM (cfSRQ)

201 If you built a great fortune in America, I guarantee you built it at least in part using workers all of us helped pay to educate," Warren said during a campaign event in Iowa on Friday.

Amazing levels of chutzpah from a woman who is paid nearly a half a million to "teach" one class at the private school, Harvard, leveraging her racism as fraud as a means to get her that gig.

Besides, I didn't ask the government to tax the Hell out of me to warehouse illiterate children then foist these disasters out in to a globally competitive market.

If Warren wants to take credit for everyone's education, she needs to start paying reparations to all of the tax payers who have been swindled out of trillions of dollars to only get a bunch of fat, lazy union goons who turn out illiterate barbarian snowflakes.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 22, 2019 08:28 AM (lD3vL)

202 Luxury!


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:26 AM (cfSRQ)

Heh. If you can top not being able to waste dirt then you really did have a tough childhood.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 08:28 AM (cknjq)

203 Few houses down and behind me and I hear barking. Continuous. I finally get up to see what's going on and these idiots left the dog out. It's a little poodle. It's pouring rain. I know they are home I can see lights on and people moving around. Fucking assholes.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 22, 2019 08:28 AM (dUJdY)

204 IL cities forced to cut essential services in order to pay corrupt State employee's union generated pensions.


https://tinyuom/y4qejbj8
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM

Ya get what you vote for. This is coming to a state near you. It's not sustainable. Well, not without taking MORE of my money. Of course I don't get to retire at age 57 with 90% of my salary and benefits guaranteed. But hey, I'll just work longer and harder for your political graft.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2019 08:29 AM (xUvz+)

205 We would draw pictures of food in the dirt then pretend to eat it because we couldn't afford to waste dirt.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 08:20 AM (cknjq)

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You had dirt? We couldn't even afford that.

Posted by: Pete Seria at September 22, 2019 08:29 AM (7ZQe3)

206 I caught the second half of the Georgia/ND game. Way to take control of the game, Dawgs. Fromm is a really good QB. Almost as good as Tua. We'll prolly see you guys again this year in the SEC Championship game.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 22, 2019 08:29 AM (HaL55)

207 He's teaching his players character.
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Well, he's had two of his staff get busted for being super-drunk and driving. The most recent one was bouncing his SUV off cards in an Ann Arbor street while driving in his underwear.

Must be a stressful place to work...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 08:30 AM (cfSRQ)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (9/21/19)

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Tonight's Mystery Click


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The Saturday Night Joke

A father passing by his son's bedroom was astonished to see the bed was nicely made and everything was picked up. Then, he saw an envelope, propped up prominently on the pillow. It was addressed, 'Dad'. With the worst premonition, he opened the envelope and read the letter, with trembling hands.

Dear, Dad. It is with great regret and sorrow that I'm writing you. I had to elope with my new girlfriend, because I wanted to avoid a scene with Mum and you.

I've been finding real passion with Stacy. She is so nice, but I knew you would not approve of her because of all her piercing's, tattoos, her tight Motorcycle clothes, and because she is so much older than I am.

But it's not only the passion, Dad. She's pregnant. Stacy said that we will be very happy. She owns a trailer in the woods, and has a stack of firewood for the whole winter. We share a dream of having many more children.

Stacy has opened my eyes to the fact that marijuana doesn't really hurt anyone. We'll be growing it for ourselves and trading it with the other people in the commune for all the cocaine and ecstasy we want.

In the meantime, we'll pray that science will find a cure for AIDS so that Stacy can get better. She sure deserves it!

Don't worry Dad, I'm 15, and I know how to take care of myself. Someday, I'm sure we'll be back to visit so you can get to know your many grandchildren.

Love, your son, Joshua.

P.S . Dad, none of the above is true. I'm over at Jason's house. I just wanted to remind you that there are worse things in life than the school report that's on the kitchen table. Call when it is safe for me to come home!

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Don't break down the doors at your local grocery store. The Impossible Burger is available in stores.

Getting Impossible Foods’ plant-based burger alternative from the lab and onto consumers’ grills has been a long, drawn out process. But the company has announced that starting tomorrow, the new Impossible Burger will finally be available to purchase in grocery stores—assuming you live in California.

Earlier this year, at CES 2019 in Las Vegas, Impossible Foods debuted version 2.0 of its Impossible Burger which we found to be almost indistinguishable from burgers made from actual beef thanks to an ingredient called soy leghemoglobin that simulates how ground beef looks, cooks, and tastes. Impossible Foods has created an impressive product that promises to help reduce the world’s demand for beef, but to date it has only been available to consumers through restaurants and fast food joints because the U.S. Food and Drug Administration was slow to fully approve soy leghemoglobin as a safe color additive.


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Skinny house, an interesting building project.


***


How to make a bath bomb

Finally, some news you can use, especially if you’re one of those guys who isn’t in touch with your feminine side. As you know, if you want to get in touch with her feminine side, and maybe the bits around the front, you’re going to have to get in touch with your feminine side first. So, instead of using your significant other’s tupperware to change your outboard motor oil, and then giving it a GoJo rinse and putting it back in the cupboard, why not make a delightful bath bomb for her? It’s easy and fun, and as you can see at the end of the video, you can use it to bathe yourself. For girls, fancy soap applied to themselves is great and all, but any kind of soap applied to their boyfriends is miles better.


***


National Parks and the best hike in each park.


***

A cure for male pattern baldness? An electric baseball hat to the rescue.


Researchers from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, University of Electronic Science and Technology of China, and Shenzhen University actually developed the electrical stimulation device not the hat. What’s amazing about it is that it’s small enough to fit inside a regular baseball hat, doesn’t use batteries, and actually works.

The team conducted extensive testing on laboratory rats and mice – and at least one scientist’s dad – and determined that the design was a rousing success. Rats who used the patch regrew hair quicker than those who didn’t, it even grew hair on ‘nude mice’ that don’t naturally grow any.


***


Quite the tattoo, three words, VEGAN FOR LIFE. Loser would have been shorter.


THE ONT MUSICAL INTERLUDE


On this day: 21 Sep 1991
Status Quo put themselves in the Guinness Book Of Records by appearing four venues in one day, Sheffield, Glasgow, Birmingham and London, performing all four in a 12-hour period. via thisdayinmusic.com

Settle down. It could have been Yoko.



Born on this day: 21 Sep 1967
Faith Hill, American country singer who had the 1993 US country No.1 'Wild One' and the 1998 UK No. 13 single 'This Kiss'. Known both for her commercial success and her marriage to fellow country star Tim McGraw. Hill has sold over 40 million records worldwide and scored eight No.1 singles and three No.1 albums on the US Country charts. Her Soul2Soul II Tour 2006 with McGraw became the highest-grossing country tour of all time. In 2009 Billboard named her as the No.1 Adult Contemporary artist of the decade 2000-2009. via thisdayinmusic.com


***


'I don't write the headlines. I just report them.' I agree.

Heated bull semen blows lids off containers, sends firefighters into ‘defensive mode’ during massive blaze
Heated bull semen launched dangerous projectiles in every direction during an early morning inferno that caused firefighters to take cover at an Australian cattle-breeding facility Tuesday.

“The liquid inside the cylinders was rapidly expanding and essentially the lids of the cryogenic cylinders were just popping off the top and projectiles were being thrown from the building,” fire chief Chris Loeschenkohl told ABC News down under.

All hell broke loose at a 2,700 square foot Yarram Herd Services facility in southeast Australia, where first responders reportedly took more than two hours to tame a raging fire that destroyed 100 cryogenic cylinders full of bull sperm. WIN News in Gippsland, Australia, reports that it’s unclear what caused the 3 a.m. blaze.


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A 9PM physical exam? Weird. Genius Award Winner.

While conducting a physical exam, a Florida nursing assistant “opened his mouth and placed it around" the penis of his patient, according to police who arrested the health care worker on a sexual battery charge.

Investigators allege that Roger Cala Martin, 41, was examining the victim’s “bare genitals” when the battery took place around 9 PM Tuesday evening in the Clearwater office of Dr. Eduardo Palanca (seen below).

The victim, cops say, was getting an annual physical when he was subjected to Martin’s “unprovoked and unsolicited” sexual contact. The man “immediately backed up and left the exam room, notified the doctor and called 911.”


***


Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Creativity.

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Notice: Posted with permission by the Ace Media Empire and AceCorp, LLC. Saturday night is alright for hitting up Ace's Tip Jar.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:00 PM




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1 heh

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 10:00 PM (aS1PU)

2 Good evening horde

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (ZCEU2)

3 It's time!

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (UUBmN)

4 Evening Horde

Posted by: wing at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (JFzNN)

5 Arf!

Posted by: Sandy at September 21, 2019 10:02 PM (ZYB2s)

6 I got nuthin ... or ... at least that bitch Clinton isn't president. So that is something, hope everyone's teams did well.

Posted by: Gmac- I didn't do it but the Prince did at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (4KVan)

7 Everyone thinks I am cute but Mis Hum.

Posted by: Benny at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (uDh3k)

8 Hello

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (u6t70)

9 Jó estét mindenkinek!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (7WaWV)

10 Ummm, MisHum, have you been communicating with my son?

I love that boy but some days. . . .

HA!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 10:04 PM (Y4EXg)

11

Fuck Impossible Burger in impossible ways...

Posted by: Vegan Fucker at September 21, 2019 10:04 PM (A/axl)

12 Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 10:04 PM (Y4EXg)


Nope, I haven't.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 10:05 PM (aA3+G)

13 Those steamy Florida evenings must be downright intoxicating.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:05 PM (ZYB2s)

14 Happy Caturday!

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 10:07 PM (u6t70)

15 not a damn thing wrong with staus quo.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:07 PM (KP5rU)

16 "The Impossible Burger is available in stores." Tonite, they're two for six bucks at BK, with all the fixins. Why cook?

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 10:07 PM (mk9aG)

17 Go dawgs

Posted by: BacktoGA at September 21, 2019 10:07 PM (GX3JQ)

18

Run Sandy! Run Sandy run, it's Barkey!

Posted by: Vegan Fucker at September 21, 2019 10:08 PM (A/axl)

19 He "opened his mouth" and "placed it around the patient's penis." Sounds so much more clinical than "he gave his patient a surprise blowjob."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:08 PM (ZYB2s)

20 Zippeadodah! Welcome back, boys and girls!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 10:08 PM (DMUuz)

21 I tried one of those vegan burgers many years ago.
Not the same as real meat. Actually, one of life's great pleasures is a nice juicy steak cooked on the barbeque grill.

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 10:10 PM (u6t70)

22 And Moby, you can get stomped by Obi... You 36 year-old bald-headed f*g, blow me!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Slim Shady, Without Me at September 21, 2019 10:10 PM (7WaWV)

23 Why we read AOSHQ -

"Heated bull semen launched dangerous projectiles in every direction..."

Couldn't read any further than that. Brain shut down.

Posted by: mindful webworker - imperceptibly at September 21, 2019 10:10 PM (GWm7j)

24 There's....

SOMEthingONTHEWING!!!

Some!!!...

...THING!!!

Posted by: Bill! Shatner! at September 21, 2019 10:10 PM (VNfwt)

25 17 Go dawgs
Posted by: BacktoGA at September 21, 2019 10:07 PM (GX3JQ)

What's the score?

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 10:10 PM (u6t70)

26 Thanks for the great ONT MisHum. CC and Pepsi.

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at September 21, 2019 10:10 PM (PYdI2)

27 The AoS ONT: News You Can Use! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (L2ZTs)

28

Arcing ropes of bill jizz!

Posted by: Vegan Fucker at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (A/axl)

29 Heated bull semen: what CAN'T it do??!?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:12 PM (L2ZTs)

30

The great thing about doing anal with a vegan is that your dick only ends up covered in hay and water...

Posted by: Vegan Fucker at September 21, 2019 10:12 PM (A/axl)

31 Arcing ropes of bill jizz!
Posted by: Vegan Fucker at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (A/axl)


YES!

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at September 21, 2019 10:12 PM (aS1PU)

32 >> Arcing ropes of bill jizz!

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Monica Lewinski at September 21, 2019 10:13 PM (f1Vqw)

33 Son, I say, son, y'all ain't doin' it right.

Oklahoma range-fed angus, son. Plants is what food eats.

Posted by: Foghorn Leghemoglobin at September 21, 2019 10:13 PM (GWm7j)

34 Heated bull semen blows lids off containers

I hope they have a newsletter.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at September 21, 2019 10:13 PM (EgshT)

35

I think Bill's arcing days are over. Probably can hardly manage a dribble anymore.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 10:14 PM (f1Vqw)

36 I had one of those impossible Whoppers... scary close in flavor and texture. Mostly from being grilled...

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at September 21, 2019 10:14 PM (PYdI2)

37
"The Predator is everything wrong with movies today"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jRTUeGflCM

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:14 PM (Jy6ww)

38 That's why you need RAW MUSCLE POWER GLUTES.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 10:14 PM (ykYG2)

39
Oh by the way, qdpsteve, Leslie Uggams was in Deadpool. She was fun.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 10:15 PM (13CQC)

40 Ken Levine has a funny blog post this weekend. He did some mock-ups of the latest batch of Hollywood Walk Of Fame Stars:

- Laker Girl #5
- The Juiceman
- Taco Bell Dog
- Aimee Osbourne
- Kim Zolciak
- Bristol Palin
- Octomom
- Balloon Boy
- Boris Badenov
- Kellie Pickler
- "Hear Me Now?" Guy
- Ken Levine

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:16 PM (L2ZTs)

41 Lots of great tunes tonight. Thank you MisHum!

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 10:16 PM (u6t70)

42 Besides being just wrong I wouldn't eat a veggie burger just because global warming assholes want me to.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:16 PM (ZCEU2)

43 The value of surprise blowjobs is highly related to the relationship with the blower of said job.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (0OmEj)

44 That skinny house video made it seem very appealing, and the height gave the rooms an arboreal feel. The tree right outside the bedroom windows was like "an Ewok village".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (kQs4Y)

45
Leslie Uggams was Lt Uhura??

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (Jy6ww)

46 There's a 'skinny house' (aka "spite house") in Boston, 44 Hull St...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Slim Shady, Without Me at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (7WaWV)

47 Blonde, thanks!
I love when older classic actors make cameos in current popular films. Wish Larry Linville could have lived longer, I bet he would have done at least one.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (L2ZTs)

48 if you're a committed vegan, why eat pretend meat? what in the absolute fuck am i missing?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:18 PM (KP5rU)

49 Oh by the way, qdpsteve, Leslie Uggams was in Deadpool. She was fun.

OMG! Was she the old blind lady?

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 10:18 PM (dUJdY)

50 43 The value of surprise blowjobs is highly related to the relationship with the blower of said job.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (0OmEj)

Nominated for a thread winner........

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 10:18 PM (aA3+G)

51 chavez, they're just trying to ruin meat for the rest of us :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:19 PM (L2ZTs)

52 48 if you're a committed vegan, why eat pretend meat? what in the absolute fuck am i missing?
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:18 PM (KP5rU


Losers just gotta try to look like winners..........

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 10:19 PM (aA3+G)

53 Just got here, battling a recalcitrant laptop, but after reading the Saturday night joke, I felt called to say "MisHum, you are a bad bad man!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 10:19 PM (BiNEL)

54 Impossible burgers, if they're like other meat substitutes, are loaded with sodium and other crap that makes them not a bit healthier than real meat.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 21, 2019 10:19 PM (5itaF)

55 Good evening wing

And Horde

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:19 PM (IDhUW)

56 Larry Linville? WTAF?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:20 PM (ZYB2s)

57 The Friday Night 9:18pm CST joke:

Why doesn't Donald Trump wear glasses?

Because he already has 2020.

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 10:20 PM (Cssks)

58 Hrothgar, your comment reminded me of this old Chris Isaak song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZQ7ZLy3MI

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:20 PM (L2ZTs)

59 44 Yeah, but every time the wind blows those branches are gonna be tearing up the structure of that house especially the roof
*hippies*

Posted by: MAxIE at September 21, 2019 10:20 PM (9TR2V)

60 cute joke!

I wss too late for the movie thread so here goes

was watching an oldish French movie Brotherhood of Wolves (2001) - it's about the Beast of Gauvedon

odd... gothic but not supernatural

the guy who was the funny kung fu bad guy in John Wick 3 was in it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:21 PM (G546f)

61 Trump should Tweet a link to this video. See how fast YouTube bans it.

https://youtu.be/7W33HRc1A6c

Language warning. 8 minutes of George Carlin on saving the planet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 10:21 PM (QSzhg)

62 i can't wait for fake fish. that should really kick maximum ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:22 PM (KP5rU)

63 "The Predator is everything wrong with movies today"
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I just watched that this evening. I've been on a Critical Drinker tear. "F*ck you, movie!"

While I disagree with his dismissal of "Predators", which is my second favorite of the franchise, he is so right that they just don't seem to know how to do action movies like that anymore.

The original jungle setting is as lush, moody, and alien as another planet. I watched it recently and it really holds up well.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:22 PM (kQs4Y)

64 mnw, this joke was making the rounds at FB:

Guy to Beto: "Wanna hear a joke?"
Beto: "Sure."
"My AR-15."
"... I don't get it."
"And you never will!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:22 PM (L2ZTs)

65 I'm bored. Entertain me.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:23 PM (NWiLs)

66 Why doesn't Donald Trump wear glasses?

Because he already has 2020.


LOL!! Love it!

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 10:23 PM (dUJdY)

67 I was going to say that was a redneck invention but they don't mow their grass.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:23 PM (2DOZq)

68 I was cooking at a barbecue recently, and had to grill the bratwurst version of this "impossible" "meat" alongside plenty of very possible real meat.

It looked a bit weird, not quite like real pork sausage, but close. A little bit looser, and grainier. It cooked pretty much normally for a brat. Sadly, I didn't get to taste it, but I bet it's not as good as the real thing, from what I saw.

The thing is, the people who brought this are vegan for dubious "health" reasons. So how is better to eat this, than real ground pork?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 10:24 PM (JY0JC)

69
I've been on a Critical Drinker tear. "F*ck you, movie!"


Fuck OFF, FILM!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:24 PM (Jy6ww)

70 65 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:23 PM (NWiLs)

---------

Write down your full name, your social security number and your credit card number on this piece of paper. Don't show anyone and hand the paper to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:24 PM (ZYB2s)

71

Eris, were you into Game of Thrones?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:25 PM (Jy6ww)

72 Let me entertain you-ou-ou, let me whip and chain you-ou-ou...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Slim Shady, Without Me at September 21, 2019 10:25 PM (7WaWV)

73 qdp

Like it.

I get a lotta mileage out of carrying jokes from Power Line's "This Week in Pictures" from there to here, btw.

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 10:25 PM (Cssks)

74 Rats who used the patch regrew hair quicker than those who didn't, it
even grew hair on 'nude mice' that don't naturally grow any.



I have always had trouble growing a mustache . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 10:25 PM (xG/b0)

75
MauLer is another good Youtuber who does reviews.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:25 PM (Jy6ww)

76 Write down your full name, your social security number and your credit card number on this piece of paper. Don't show anyone and hand the paper to me.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:24 PM (ZYB2s)

Ummm...no.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:27 PM (NWiLs)

77 Soothie, I didn't read the source material but I did watch the series. I liked it even as I found it cringe-making.

Critical Drinker's breakdowns of the final episodes were terrific.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:27 PM (kQs4Y)

78 saw an article in the Telegraph that an Aussie study shows that eating red meat cuts the risk of depression in half

it was funny coz the Telegraph was kind of wringing its hands as it reported it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:28 PM (G546f)

79 /offsock

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 21, 2019 10:28 PM (7WaWV)

80 Every vegan advocate should be forced to pull out their incisors.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:29 PM (2DOZq)

81 /

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 10:29 PM (aS1PU)

82
g'evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 21, 2019 10:29 PM (hlleo)

83

that Capillus cap has been around for a few years

You can tell how good it works by all the used ones you can buy on ebay.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:29 PM (Jy6ww)

84 Hello Alton!

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 10:30 PM (dUJdY)

85

Critical Drinker's breakdowns of the final episodes were terrific.


Yeah, MauLer is good, too. They even "collab" once in a while for streams.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:30 PM (Jy6ww)

86 THIRST!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 10:31 PM (woiyT)

87 that must be a cute little hat they put on the rats

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:31 PM (G546f)

88 Holy shit I didn't know Moby could look more of a pussy than he did when is was a kid, but jiminy cricket... look if he didn't pull it off.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 10:31 PM (5aX2M)

89 somehow i missed this
youtube.com/watch?v=nBlYlSs2fIU

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 10:31 PM (ykYG2)

90 "why eat pretend meat?" I'll probably try it, just because I like trying new, different things. I haven't heard anybody say it tastes _bad_. I am impressed by the bioengineering that went into producing the heme ingredient.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 10:32 PM (mk9aG)

91 Burger King sells the impossible meat burger right?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:33 PM (2DOZq)

92
So the cattle services fire did not feature thousands of exploding test tubes of bull spooge, but rather exploding liquid nitrogen dewars propelling thousands of test tubes of bull spooge.

I'm not saying that's a better situation, just a more accurate description.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 21, 2019 10:33 PM (t5m5e)

93 73 mnw: i was going to mention sometime today that the powerline "this week in pictures" is particularly funny this week.

i was actually loling.

recommended.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 10:34 PM (Pg+x7)

94 Hey, AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin is at the fall MIMoMe at September 21, 2019 10:34 PM (fhNdk)

95
I'm not saying that's a better situation, just a more accurate description.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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I recall a story years ago about someone being struck in the eye by frozen bull semen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 10:35 PM (CDGwz)

96 If the Impossible Burger will spare even one person from having to accommodate the wishes of a whiny soylent because there's no vegan alternative on the menu, then all our sacrifices were worth it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:35 PM (kQs4Y)

97 Sorry my previous post was horribly mangled. But Moby is just making me laugh so hard... he's like a living caricature. And a funny enough caricature that he makes me laugh even through the pity.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 10:36 PM (5aX2M)

98 Concealed weapons permit story:

Florida woman stops Alligator Attack using a small .22 cal Beretta Pistol

This is a story of self-control and marksmanship by a brave, cool-headed woman with a small pistol against a fierce predator.

What's the smallest caliber that you would trust to protect yourself?

Here is her story in her own words:

"While out walking along the edge of a pond just outside my house in the Villages, FL with my soon-to-be ex-husband discussing property settlement and other divorce issues, we were surprised by a huge 12-ft alligator which suddenly emerged from the murky water. It began charging us with its large jaws wide open. She must have been protecting her nest because she was extremely aggressive. If I had not had my little Beretta .22 caliber pistol with me, I would not be here today!

Just one shot to my estranged husband's kneecap was all it took. The gator got him easily, and I was able to escape by just walking away at a brisk pace.
The amount I saved in lawyer's fees was really incredible and his life insurance was a big bonus!"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 10:36 PM (xG/b0)

99 He probably already had the "spit first" one done.

Posted by: ChupaMe at September 21, 2019 10:36 PM (eC1KZ)

100 Moby will live in infamy on the internet though by having his name used as a non complimentary description. He's got that going for himself.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:36 PM (2DOZq)

101 Just saw this weekend's Walmart flyer. Their Great Value frozen bull semen is on sale this week for $3.99. Great for recipes!

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:36 PM (L2ZTs)

102 I'm not saying that's a better situation, just a more accurate description.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Splatteral damage.

Posted by: Miklos, from a safe distance at September 21, 2019 10:37 PM (QzkSJ)

103 98
That's hilarious!
I can see that happening down there for real.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 10:38 PM (7EIHE)

104 why is fungi allowable on a vegan diet?
inquiring minds wanna know

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:38 PM (G546f)

105 I just saw Moby's "Vegan for life" neck tat in big bold block letters.

If he ever wants to walk on the wild side and have a burger he'll have to wear dark glasses and a thick scarf.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:38 PM (kQs4Y)

106 I did not know that rats go bald.

You learn something new every day.

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (u6t70)

107 "While out walking along the edge of a pond just outside my house in the Villages, FL with my soon-to-be ex-husband discussing property settlement and other divorce issues, we were surprised by a huge 12-ft alligator which suddenly emerged from the murky water. It began charging us with its large jaws wide open. She must have been protecting her nest because she was extremely aggressive. If I had not had my little Beretta .22 caliber pistol with me, I would not be here today!

Just one shot to my estranged husband's kneecap was all it took. The gator got him easily, and I was able to escape by just walking away at a brisk pace.
The amount I saved in lawyer's fees was really incredible and his life insurance was a big bonus!"
----
Thanks for the laugh

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (IDhUW)

108 Motorhead For Life.

Posted by: Mister Roger's Mean Nun at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (u0crE)

109 "Vegan For Life"

So.... cattle.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (ykYG2)

110 While conducting a physical exam, a Florida nursing assistant opened his mouth and placed it around the penis of his patient,

___

Well that sucks.

Posted by: obligatory at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (WdocV)

111 if you're a committed vegan, why eat pretend meat? what in the absolute fuck am i missing?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:18 PM (KP5rU)


Nothing, they're just fucking retarded.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (9Om/r)

112 Walmart is going to start a subscription service that offers unlimited grocery delivery much like amazon prime.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at September 21, 2019 10:40 PM (0OmEj)

113 I just saw Moby's "Vegan for life" neck tat in big bold block letters.

___

He don't like meat....but he sure likes the bone.

Posted by: Obligatory at September 21, 2019 10:40 PM (WdocV)

114 Mushrooms are the flowers of the fungus which is below ground.
Some are amazingly large with one, reported by the US Forest Service, in SW Washington state at over 2,000 acres.

I think that's impossible but who knows?

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 10:40 PM (7EIHE)

115 While conducting a physical exam, a Florida nursing assistant opened his mouth and placed it around the penis of his patient,

___

Well that sucks.
Posted by: obligatory at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (WdocV)

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Oddly, there's a billing code for that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:41 PM (ZYB2s)

116 While conducting a physical exam, a Florida nursing assistant opened his mouth and placed it around the penis of his patient,

___

Well that sucks.
Posted by: obligatory at September 21, 2019 10:39 PM (WdocV)

If just one word in that story was changed it would go from wtf to awesome.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:41 PM (2DOZq)

117 109 "Vegan For Life"

So.... cattle.
-----

Smiley with shades here.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:41 PM (IDhUW)

118 I'm never giving up red meat. Veganism is an eating disorder.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:41 PM (NWiLs)

119
One of Gutfeld's regular guests, Terry Shappard, however he spells it, a former Green Beret and Gutfeld buddy, just used a phrase I'd never heard.

Your rig it, you ride it.

I like it. It comes from packing your own parachute.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 10:42 PM (f1Vqw)

120

Being able to eat meat was a sign off success for most of human history.


The notion that being vegan is good for you is laughable.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2019 10:42 PM (WdocV)

121 Oddly, there's a billing code for [male nurse beejerz].

That's why you have to read the fine print on those consent forms.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 10:42 PM (ykYG2)

122
i was actually loling.

recommended.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp
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Some good ones. I'm still chuckling about this;
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y4naeq3l

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 10:43 PM (CDGwz)

123 All vegans have to take B-12 supplements.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:43 PM (2DOZq)

124 I kinda want to watch this UCLA-Washington State game on ESjwPN, but they've got that horrible harpy calling it. Her voice gets on my last nerve.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 10:43 PM (VNfwt)

125 If just one word in that story was changed it would go from wtf to awesome.


___

If the nursing assistant was actually a sexy ex-president?

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 21, 2019 10:43 PM (WdocV)

126

Tall Oompa Loompas are on Star Trek.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 10:44 PM (aKsyK)

127 All vegans have to take B-12 supplements.
Posted by: Pig to man

The cute ones can have beef injections.

Posted by: Miklos, for humanity at September 21, 2019 10:44 PM (QzkSJ)

128 I am impressed by the bioengineering that went into producing the heme ingredient.

***

So the people that freakout over golden rice want to eat bioengineered plant products?

Hmm...almost like they are crazy or something.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (WdocV)

129
Some good ones. I'm still chuckling about this;
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y4naeq3l
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 10:43 PM (CDGwz)



I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (TdMsT)

130 Posted by: Miklos, for humanity at September 21, 2019 10:44 PM (QzkSJ)

Heh. Hot beef injections

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (2DOZq)

131 Veganism is an eating disorder.
-----
This is true, sadly my daughter has this disorder.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (IDhUW)

132 "nursing assistant opened his mouth and placed it around the penis of his patient"

What's the polite way to back out of such a situation. Does one ask for him to please stop, or ought one to wait until he's done?

Posted by: the friend for whom I'm asking at September 21, 2019 10:46 PM (GWm7j)

133 I did not know that rats go bald.


Looking at the staff of NRO should have showed you that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 21, 2019 10:46 PM (02yLa)

134 Recently Modern Maturity (AARP's national magazine) shared some of the best letters their organization has ever received.

"Dear MM, It appears I've died prematurely. Please help!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 10:46 PM (L2ZTs)

135 128 I am impressed by the bioengineering that went into producing the heme ingredient.

***

So the people that freakout over golden rice want to eat bioengineered plant products?

Hmm...almost like they are crazy or something.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (WdocV)

It's because foods like golden rice help save poor little brown people. Bioengineered fake meat helps wealthy hipster types virtue-signal, which is a much greater priority.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:46 PM (NWiLs)

136 is true, sadly my daughter has this disorder.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (IDhUW)

Seriously make sure she is taking B-12 supplements or she will eventually become ill.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:47 PM (2DOZq)

137 Your rig it, you ride it.

I like it. It comes from packing your own parachute.
Posted by: publius
--------

Recollects 'Blood on the Risers'

http://tinyurl.com/paj9wrg

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)

138 "Crowder: Top 5 Times Leftists Ate Their Own!" He left out Trotsky and Beria.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 10:47 PM (mk9aG)

139 Tall Oompa Loompas are on Star Trek.


One of them is David Soul.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 21, 2019 10:47 PM (02yLa)

140
I'm never giving up red meat. Veganism is an eating disorder.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:41 PM (NWiLs)

We were talking about that tonight. I was out at dinner with a few people, and one dude, who has a saying "eat like you're dying", was telling us about his doctor. His doctor would always tell him he has to change his diet, he eats too much, all the wrong things, etc etc. His doctor suddenly died at 54 from a heart attack. As he was telling us this he was cutting into this huge ass porkchop, and he says "fuck it, go vegan, die early".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2019 10:47 PM (9Om/r)

141 Horde, I got nothing to contribute.

Thanks for being the Horde.

Good night.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:48 PM (IDhUW)

142 Lotsa LOLs; I particularly liked RBG in the Captain Pike chair:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/09/the-week-in-pictures-buffoonpalooza-edition.php

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:49 PM (kQs4Y)

143 Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 10:43 PM (VNfwt)

I detest her as well

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 10:49 PM (aA3+G)

144 Watching that Toronto skinny home was kinda depressing, seeing how constraint after constraint was bureaucratically imposed and accepted. I've seen homes like that elsewhere, beach houses and townhomes and the like, and for slightly similar reasons, but that in particular was annoying.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Who Had a B-Wing, and Called It Brad at September 21, 2019 10:49 PM (Clxcy)

145
Tall Oompa Loompas are on Star Trek.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


The Baal episode?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:49 PM (Jy6ww)

146
I can't watch Star Wars because the MeTV in my area thinks I want to watch a re-broadcast of local fake news.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:50 PM (Jy6ww)

147 I detest her as well
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

I find I can watch it if I just mute the volume. I kinda like Leach.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 10:50 PM (VNfwt)

148 131 Veganism is an eating disorder.
-----
This is true, sadly my daughter has this disorder.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (IDhUW)

Ugh, I'm sorry.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:51 PM (NWiLs)

149
I was just about to mention David Soul was one of the Ooompa Loompas on that episode.

And yes, the god-machine is named Vaal.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 10:52 PM (f1Vqw)

150

I just realized that the "Batcomputer" in the Batcave is kinda like a big google search machine

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:53 PM (Jy6ww)

151 Insomniac, yesterday you were asking about purpose in life.

Were you aware that Jordan Peterson has a podcast?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 10:53 PM (xG/b0)

152
Starsky was on Star Wars?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:53 PM (Jy6ww)

153 "Crowder: Top 5 Times Leftists Ate Their Own!" He left out Trotsky and Beria.
Posted by: gp
--------

Robespierre?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 10:54 PM (xSo9G)

154 Why "Islam is RIGHT About Women" -Posters are Causing Confusion and Anger...

-Black Pigeon Speaks
8:50 Run Time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBkuC4Oh-g&t=0s

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 10:54 PM (Ckg4U)

155 Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 10:50 PM (VNfwt)

Leach cracks me up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 10:54 PM (aA3+G)

156
The Islam Is Right About Women (IIRAW) is like that episode of Star Wars when Kirk confused that flying robot that looked like a big coffee percolator.

Does Not Compute!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (Jy6ww)

157
We were talking about that tonight. I was out at dinner with a few people, and one dude, who has a saying "eat like you're dying", was telling us about his doctor. His doctor would always tell him he has to change his diet, he eats too much, all the wrong things, etc etc. His doctor suddenly died at 54 from a heart attack. As he was telling us this he was cutting into this huge ass porkchop, and he says "fuck it, go vegan, die early".
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 21, 2019 10:47 PM (9Om/r)

Heh. Eat right, exercise, live healthy, die anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (NWiLs)

158 The forks are set wrong for that lawnmower to work.

Posted by: Canine's are big and sharp for a reason at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (lfmil)

159 136 is true, sadly my daughter has this disorder.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 21, 2019 10:45 PM (IDhUW)

Seriously make sure she is taking B-12 supplements or she will eventually become ill.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions

---

As does my 10 yo granddaughter. I'm working with her but her mother and lesbian "grandmothers" have huge influence. I got her B-12 right here but getting her to take them is a struggle.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (Y4EXg)

160

Vaal, yes.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 10:57 PM (aKsyK)

161 ..."Were you aware that Jordan Peterson has a podcast?"
-Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 10:53 PM (xG/b0)

I don't trust that guy. That's all I'll say.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 10:57 PM (Ckg4U)

162 151 Insomniac, yesterday you were asking about purpose in life.

Were you aware that Jordan Peterson has a podcast?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 10:53 PM (xG/b0)

Not in particular but I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:58 PM (NWiLs)

163 Oh by the way, qdpsteve, Leslie Uggams was in Deadpool. She was fun.

OMG! Was she the old blind lady?


Yep, Blind Al.


Wade Wilson : It reeks like old lady pants in here.

Blind Al : Well, I am old and I wear pants.

Wade Wilson : But you are not at all woman.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 10:58 PM (7s3Gx)

164 As does my 10 yo granddaughter. I'm working with her but her mother and lesbian "grandmothers" have huge influence. I got her B-12 right here but getting her to take them is a struggle.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (Y4EXg)

Have you tried hiding it in a piece of tofu?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:59 PM (NWiLs)

165

I really thought that was Lt Uhura in Deadpool.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:00 PM (Jy6ww)

166 118 got to agree insomniac
This past week we have had sirloin steak, then leftovers, steak sandwiches, then beef casserole with tomato soup type deal and then an awesome pot roast.
Hell if I'm giving up my beef. One of the most awesome foods God has created.
Be well give me a call sometime, I'm still up tonight if you are.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 21, 2019 11:00 PM (XuVUT)

167 Skinny Homes. In New Orleans they call them Shotguns.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at September 21, 2019 11:00 PM (XgGMK)

168
If that local news is over, Buck Rogers is coming on MeTV now. You can watch Erin Grey prance around in those tight outfits.

Young Publius fouled a ficus or a hundred in her honor back in the day.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:01 PM (f1Vqw)

169

Yeah, Buck Rogers is on my tv, right now.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:01 PM (Jy6ww)

170 Besides being just wrong I wouldn't eat a veggie burger just because global warming assholes want me to.
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:16 PM (ZCEU2)

That's the whole rationale behind that toxic shit. It's not to allow vegans to enjoy burgers; it's to harm the beef industry by giving thoughtless meat eaters an "alternative". Fuck them and that commie fag moby, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:02 PM (jEgzt)

171 What's amazing about it is that it's small enough to fit inside a regular baseball hat, doesn't use batteries, and actually works.

$100 says they find out in five years that it causes hair cancer.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 11:03 PM (7s3Gx)

172

Hey, Summer is over. Yay!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:03 PM (Jy6ww)

173 167
I grew up in a shotgun home in Southern Indiana.
Pain in the ass for six of us.
I slept on the sofa in the living room until the last of my three sisters left.
One bathroom. Heated with oil and coal.
No insulation. Houses three feet apart.
Ones that had a half second floor are called, camelbacks.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 11:03 PM (7EIHE)

174
Would you believe that Mel Blanc did the voice of that stupid little robot?

Well, Wilma is flying a viper or whatever they call it through a stargate. Skin tight flight suit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:04 PM (f1Vqw)

175 It's because foods like golden rice help save poor
little brown people. Bioengineered fake meat helps wealthy hipster types
virtue-signal, which is a much greater priority.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 10:46 PM (NWiLs)

Very perceptive Insom, I think this theory of yours can be extended to explain a lot of liberal causes, but it needs to be coupled with standard liberal rationale reason #3: PROFIT!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 11:04 PM (BiNEL)

176 That skinny house video made it seem very appealing, and the height gave the rooms an arboreal feel. The tree right outside the bedroom windows was like "an Ewok village".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 10:17 PM (kQs4Y)

Those things are just a scam to make cities less livable by jacking up the population density. Where are the folks that live in the skinny going to park their cars? Toronto is a shithole.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (jEgzt)

177
I get a kick out of Buck's little rainbow on his uniform. It was gay before it was Gay.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (Jy6ww)

178
Ohh, it's a "spaceburg". Of frozen oxygen!

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (f1Vqw)

179 Skinny Homes. In New Orleans they call them Shotguns.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY

Triggering.

Posted by: Miklos, where y'at? at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (QzkSJ)

180
Delilah was Best of Opposite Sex at today's Lone Star Borzoi Club specialty in Belton. She placed behind Duckie, the #1 Borzoi, who was Best of Breed.

This is the same result as the National Specialty in May, but this time I was handling Lila instead of Her Majesty, who's several months away from returning to the ring. Lila was Best Owner-Handled and got 5 points toward her next Grand Champion level.

Me trying to imitate Her Majesty's handling skill is like trying to duplicate the Mona Lisa using a paint roller but because we got the same result at least I was spared a three-hour lecture on the drive home about everything I did wrong.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (7rVsF)

181 Another Seinfeld episode become reality,the Chinese cure baldness?I doubt it.

Posted by: steevy at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (KNsKs)

182 Nyah?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (QSzhg)

183 Hey, Summer is over. Yay!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:03 PM (Jy6w

91 degrees here today. Summer decided to stick around .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (2DOZq)

184 Jordan Peterson news - apparently his wife was diagnosed with kidney(?) cancer earlier this year

they're Canadians so she got surgery there but there was some complication with a lymph node getting nicked and she was basically terminally ill for more than a month for some mystery complication

then they finally flew her to Philly where they were able to treat her and she is actually on the mend and looking to survive

during all this Peterson was having a hard time dealing so his doctor put him on clonazepam (a benzo) but now his wife is better he realized he's addicted

long story short he's now in rehab in New York

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:06 PM (G546f)

185 Of course even in the Seinfeld episode it didn't really work...

Posted by: steevy at September 21, 2019 11:06 PM (KNsKs)

186

Oooh. Three evil hotties. With glowing eyes and telekinetic powers!

I'm sure we'll got some hot cat-fights with Wilma and one of them.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (f1Vqw)

187 OffBeat Cinema is showing Attack of the Mushroom People.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (02yLa)

188 Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 21, 2019 11:00 PM (XuVUT)

Sounds like mighty fine eatin' right there. I'll catch up with you in the next few days.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (NWiLs)

189 i can't wait for fake fish. that should really kick maximum ass.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:22 PM (KP5rU)

It's made from tranny pussy!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (jEgzt)

190 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (jEgzt)

That skinny had the back cantilevered and a car port underneath.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (2DOZq)

191 Mushroom People?

Matango?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (QSzhg)

192 doesn't heme mean blood?

some video makers on tewb yoo have researched impossible foods.

pretty disgusting, what they found. warning: only because I care do I post this. but you are warned

In Pursuit of Truth
https://youtu.be/0CfSS02Sd5o

Amazing Polly
https://youtu.be/6xfcdHVbO8Q

Posted by: booknlass at September 21, 2019 11:08 PM (xIKXj)

193 OffBeat Cinema is showing Attack of the Mushroom People.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Is that the Japanese movie? I swear I watched it on Prime last week. Hey, I was bored.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 11:08 PM (VNfwt)

194
i can't wait for fake fish.
Posted by: chavez the hugo


I get a kick out of fake crab meat -- it's just a cheap fish.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:08 PM (Jy6ww)

195 moby is like a giant boil on your ass. you pray to god it just goes away. no talent, egg headed, commie, fucktard. whateverthe fuck that shithead is doing, it sure as fuck aint music. hopefully, it chokes on a fake bratwurst in the near future.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 11:08 PM (KP5rU)

196 Skinny house - same people who insist on free range chickens want to pack people into coop sized houses

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:08 PM (G546f)

197 167 Skinny Homes. In New Orleans they call them Shotguns.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at September 21, 2019 11:00 PM (XgGMK)


Just the ticket for entry level mill worker families.

Posted by: Canine's are big and sharp for a reason at September 21, 2019 11:09 PM (lfmil)

198
This chick on Buck Rogers now must be, like, 65 years old today.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:10 PM (Jy6ww)

199 193 Yeah it on Prime.I almost watched it out of curiosity.

Posted by: steevy at September 21, 2019 11:10 PM (KNsKs)

200 Every vegan advocate should be forced to pull out their incisors.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 10:29 PM (2DOZq)

WTAF?

Posted by: Bugs Bunny at September 21, 2019 11:10 PM (jEgzt)

201

They should make a Meat Patch for Vegans.

Hey, that's a great idea!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:10 PM (Jy6ww)

202 Re: Jordan Peterson, his wife had been recently diagnosed with what they called a rare terminal kidney cancer and he had such anxiety over it, he started hitting up the Klonopin hard. Then she made a big turnaround and he decided with his doctor ( who should be kicked in the ass for agreeing with him) to quit cold turkey.
Now JP is in rehab because he had all the awful withdrawal stuff that goes with cold turkey from klonopin.
It was on his daughters you tube.

Needless to say, the hateful comments from the left abound.

Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:10 PM (RiTnx)

203 Saw Erin Gray at a con in 2010, she was holding up quite well.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:10 PM (QSzhg)

204
Look at the chest hair on Buck. He's a regular Austin Powers.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:11 PM (f1Vqw)

205 during all this Peterson was having a hard time dealing so his doctor put him on clonazepam (a benzo) but now his wife is better he realized he's addicted

long story short he's now in rehab in New York
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:06 PM (G546f)

Huh. I've taken benzodiazepines (prescription, of course) ofd and on over the course of many years and never gotten addicted.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

206 As does my 10 yo granddaughter. I'm working with her but her mother and lesbian "grandmothers" have huge influence. I got her B-12 right here but getting her to take them is a struggle.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (Y4EXg)

Seriously? Veganism isn't a healthy choice for anyone, but it's double plus ungood for kids. It fucks with brain development. See if you can get her to rethink it.

I know a lady whose ex-husband insists on their little daughter being vegan. She just slips the girl food when he's not around. If you've ever seen piranha in a frenzy, you can picture what this kid is like with a chicken leg.

Kids want to eat meat, badly.

Just start breaking the rules a little, when nobody's watching, and soon enough she'll be hoovering down ribeyes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 11:11 PM (5aX2M)

207 Yeah it on Prime.I almost watched it out of curiosity.
Posted by: steevy

I hadn't seen it since I was a kid and it creeped me out. Watching it, I realized what creeped me out was the Japaneseness.

I'll leave now.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 11:11 PM (VNfwt)

208 anyway, fake food to fix a fake crisis

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:12 PM (G546f)

209 The only reason to eat beyond meat or impossible burger is if you are in a lefty save the planet mode because it has less protein and more fat than a beef burger. It's loaded with coconut oil. Just toss one on the grill and see what happens.
Does taste not too bad though. But definitely not beef.

Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:12 PM (RiTnx)

210
I got her B-12 right here but getting her to take them is a struggle.

Costco sells a pleasant tasting B-12 that dissolves under the tongue.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:12 PM (Jy6ww)

211
I just looked it up. Erin Grey is 69, born in 1950.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:12 PM (f1Vqw)

212 ..."hopefully, it chokes on a fake bratwurst in the near future."
-Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 11:08 PM (KP5rU)

Moby has always been a self-righteous, virtue-signalling, red flag-waving Common Jerk whose days wearing roller blades and "performing" at a Glory Hole Near You are continuing, apace.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:13 PM (Ckg4U)

213 Huh. I've taken benzodiazepines (prescription, of course) ofd and on over the course of many years and never gotten addicted.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:11 PM (NWiLs)

Maybe he took them too long? Or maybe he's just unlucky?
Dunno

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:13 PM (G546f)

214 Matango is what if Gilligan's Island was a boring psychological horror movie.

Hausu is still the winner of the WTF Japan film making award.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:13 PM (QSzhg)

215
Those chicks are Goolds!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 11:14 PM (Jy6ww)

216 There is a new bio-engineered rice that is being developed to produce proteins that act as a topical inhibitor for HIV infection. The group that is developing it said they decided to use rice as a medium since animal sources require more complicated and sophisticated handling and storing equipment, where rice is room temperature stable and can be stored in gunnysacks.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 11:14 PM (xG/b0)

217 212; Slap, you are preaching to the choir.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 11:15 PM (KP5rU)

218 @213. If you take them long or frequently and go cold turkey, it's an awful withdrawal. Klonopin and Xanax are two of the worst offenders for that.

Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:16 PM (RiTnx)

219 half the people on my iron deficiency anemia group are stubborn vegans

another quarter are post gastric bypass surgery patients who had no idea chopping part of their digestive system off could cause problems

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:16 PM (G546f)

220 i can't wait for fake fish.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

Try before you buy.

Posted by: Crazy Miklos' Discount Codpiece Warehouse at September 21, 2019 11:17 PM (QzkSJ)

221 Hausu is still the winner of the WTF Japan film making award.
Posted by: Anna Puma

If that's what I think it is, I couldn't agree more. Last time I saw it on TCM, the host said it was supposed to compete against Jaws. That is, they made it on purpose.

Oh, the humanity! Oh, the Japanity!

Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 11:17 PM (VNfwt)

222 Valium is in the benzo family. I got prescribed it after one of my skin surgeries. I took two of the pills. My dad flushed the rest after I took too much interest in taking more.

Yes, benzos are addictive, to me anyway. I won't touch them again.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 11:17 PM (ykYG2)

223
Benzo addiction is a common thing. Some are worse than others. Xanax is the worst, short half life.

It just depends. If you don't take too many, and for short terms, you'll be okay.

But start popping them and increasing the dose and you'll be hooked. Brain adjusts to the drug, and take it away, and you've got serious problems.

Benzo withdrawal can be fatal -- seizures.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:17 PM (f1Vqw)

224 220 i can't wait for fake fish.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

Try before you buy.
Posted by: Crazy Miklos'

will it pass the sniff test?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:18 PM (G546f)

225 Benzos are the only drug besides alcohol where severe withdrawals can be fatal.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 11:19 PM (5aX2M)

226 Hausu, pretty Japanese high school girl, Beauty, invites her friends along to spend time at the house of her creepy aunt who never got over her lover not returning from World War II.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:19 PM (QSzhg)

227
Benzos were developed as a safer alternative to barbiturates, but they've got their own downsides.

Valium is one of the safer ones -- long half-life. But you can get hooked on it same as the others.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:19 PM (f1Vqw)

228 Seriously? Veganism isn't a healthy choice for anyone, but it's double plus ungood for kids. It fucks with brain development. See if you can get her to rethink it.

I know a lady whose ex-husband insists on their little daughter being vegan. She just slips the girl food when he's not around. If you've ever seen piranha in a frenzy, you can picture what this kid is like with a chicken leg.

Kids want to eat meat, badly.

Just start breaking the rules a little, when nobody's watching, and soon enough she'll be hoovering down ribeyes.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

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I hear ya YD. It is the worst for a developing 10 yr old. My wife and I are apparently the only thinking adults in her life.

I worry about her development, both brain and puberty. She has been convinced eating meat/fish is cruel to animals, etc. Her eating is a disaster. I sneak some animal protein in when I can - she does eat bacon and eggs here - apparently that is not on the banned lists.

When I cook for everyone else, I make sure it's very fragrant and looks good. We'll mow down ribs, steaks, burgs etc. in front of her.

Hopefully, sometime soon she'll soften but she is also supported at school by the mean girls and commie teachers.

Thanks Soothsayer - I have that B-12. I sneak it in when I can.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 11:20 PM (Y4EXg)

229 will it pass the sniff test?
Posted by: vmom happy

Yes. My word as a Biden.

Posted by: Crazy Miklos' Discount Bespoke Codpiece Warehouse at September 21, 2019 11:20 PM (QzkSJ)

230 So I'm at a store today that sells furniture including glass topped coffee tables. Yep ...Cincinnati Hotplate flashed through my mind.

Thanks for nothing guys. Not buying a glass coffee table ever.

Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2019 11:21 PM (Y274z)

231 Fake fish made from real fish heads?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:21 PM (QSzhg)

232 Excellent. Encore Classics channel is showing Repo Man.

"Ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em..."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 21, 2019 11:21 PM (7s3Gx)

233 230 So I'm at a store today that sells furniture including glass topped coffee tables. Yep ...Cincinnati Hotplate flashed through my mind.

Thanks for nothing guys. Not buying a glass coffee table ever.
Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2019 11:21 PM (Y274z)

Sounds like you violated the first rule of AOSHQ.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:22 PM (NWiLs)

234 "Ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em..."
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

Plate

Or shrimp

Or plate of shrimp

Posted by: Blutarski at September 21, 2019 11:23 PM (VNfwt)

235 Excellent. Encore Classics channel is showing Repo Man.

"Ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em..."
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

I blame...society.

Posted by: A Miklos Man is always intense at September 21, 2019 11:23 PM (QzkSJ)

236 Nice job Hadrian

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 11:23 PM (aA3+G)

237 the 1984 Repo Man or the 2010 one? I heard the 2010 one gargled balls.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 11:23 PM (ykYG2)

238 Yep ...Cincinnati Hotplate flashed through my mind.

Thanks for nothing guys. Not buying a glass coffee table ever.
Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2019 11:21 PM (Y274z)



What are you talking about?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:24 PM (TdMsT)

239 vegan kid - get the dr to test her iron (ferritin) and B12

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:24 PM (G546f)

240 My mom has been on Xanax ever since my father passed . She gets anxiety attacks and for her that's the easiest path to avoid them.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:24 PM (2DOZq)

241 IMDb at the Emmys (2016-)
What to Expect at the 2019 Emmys
Will "Game of Thrones" take home Best Drama Series for the fourth time?


I am banking on 'hell no'.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 11:25 PM (ykYG2)

242 238 Yep ...Cincinnati Hotplate flashed through my mind.

Thanks for nothing guys. Not buying a glass coffee table ever.
Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2019 11:21 PM (Y274z)

What are you talking about?
Posted by: Ladyl

----

DONT LOOK IT UP!!!

Honest.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 11:27 PM (Y4EXg)

243 So I'm looking for a new crockpot recipe for chicken, and I thought - spaghetti sauce.

Have you ever used spaghetti sauce with chicken in the crockpot? with noodles cooked separately and topped with parmesan cheese?

Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 11:27 PM (u6t70)

244 "The 1984 Repo Man or the 2010 one? I heard the 2010 one gargled balls."

The 2010 one is Repo Men and it's not a remake. And yes, it does gargle balls.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 21, 2019 11:28 PM (7s3Gx)

245 240 My mom has been on Xanax ever since my father passed . She gets anxiety attacks and for her that's the easiest path to avoid them.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 201


Years ago, when my husband died unexpectedly, I was given a prescription for Xanax. I only took 1/2 a pill when I couldn't sleep due to anxiety. I still have a prescription, and I go months without taking it. It doesn't seem very addictive to me.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:28 PM (TdMsT)

246 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 11:05 PM (7rVsF)

Congrats Hadrian! That was quite a feat on many levels!
Prayers up for Her Majesty's full recovery!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 11:28 PM (BiNEL)

247 The only reason to eat beyond meat or impossible burger is if you are in a lefty save the planet mode because it has less protein and more fat than a beef burger. It's loaded with coconut oil. Just toss one on the grill and see what happens.
Does taste not too bad though. But definitely not beef.
Posted by: keena

I don't eat meat on Fridays, and decent fish sandwiches are hard to find. So, I might try one.

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2019 11:29 PM (B7KlG)

248 That vegan for life clown is a walking billboard for what NOT to do for food. I realize some people are naturally skinny but he looks like a moving cadaver. And praise from PITA? Oh yeah, that's going to improve his image as a dweeb.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 11:29 PM (bmdz3)

249 "doesn't heme mean blood?"

Blood contains heme, a cage-like molecule with an iron atom in the middle, that transports oxygen. I guess they put heme in the impburger to make it look and taste bloody. Anyway, they figured out a way to get microorganisms to make heme, which amazes me because microorganisms are non-vascular, unlike animals, and higher photosynthetic plants (which use chlorophyll, another cage molecule with an Mg atom inside.)

I just can't bring myself to detest vegetarians like you guys do. I'm not vegetarian, but I've always enjoyed vegetarian dishes on the occasions I've tried them. I don't see the impburger, per se, as any kind of threat to our way of life.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:29 PM (mk9aG)

250 Congrats Hadrian!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:30 PM (G546f)

251
DONT LOOK IT UP!!!

Honest.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 11:27 PM (Y4EXg)


Glass coffee table (never a sensible idea) and a hot plate? I'm confused.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:30 PM (TdMsT)

252 Glass coffee table?

Crystal Magnum?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:31 PM (QSzhg)

253 I recall that Valium once had a V-shaped perforation in the centre of each tablet and that was to allow one to make necklaces and bracelets from them...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 21, 2019 11:31 PM (7WaWV)

254 Vegan for life type people are those who need some cause to make themselves feed good.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:31 PM (QSzhg)

255 Ladyl

Trust us, find something else to think about!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 11:32 PM (BiNEL)

256 The forks are set wrong for that lawnmower to work.
Posted by: Canine's are big and sharp for a reason at September 21, 2019 10:56 PM (lfmil)

Get it off pavement, and onto an actual lawn, and it will bog down real quick.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:32 PM (jEgzt)

257 "Glass coffee table (never a sensible idea) and a hot plate? I'm confused."
-Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:30 PM (TdMsT)

#ShitPorn.

...no other way of putting it.

...now leave it alone, as I know you will.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:33 PM (Ckg4U)

258 I don't see the impburger, per se, as any kind of threat to our way of life.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:29 PM



That's exactly what they want you to think!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 21, 2019 11:33 PM (7WaWV)

259 Glass coffee table (never a sensible idea) and a hot plate? I'm confused.

That's ok. Just stay away from urbandictionary.com and everything will be fine.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 11:33 PM (7s3Gx)

260 Vegan for life type people are those who need some cause to make themselves feed good.

Shame on you! They are saving the Earf! *hic* *thud*

Posted by: Wine Moms at September 21, 2019 11:34 PM (EgshT)

261 254

Anna, ISWYDT!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 11:34 PM (BiNEL)

262 Glass coffee table (never a sensible idea) and a hot plate? I'm confused.
Posted by: Ladyl

---

The actually description of what this is doesn't translate literally.

You don't run in the circles where this stuff is common.

Or want to.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 11:34 PM (Y4EXg)

263 Xanax is extremely psychologically and moderately physically addicting and is one of the two or three drugs on the market that should be banned yesterday. Please get her to a real physician and get her on something else. There are effective drugs out there that don't have the risks of Xanax.

Posted by: Vegan Fucker at September 21, 2019 11:36 PM (CDDoG)

264 Crystal Magnum?
Posted by: Anna Puma
-------

It was all a misunderstanding. Sorry about the Lacrosse team.

Posted by: Mike Nifong at September 21, 2019 11:36 PM (CDGwz)

265 255 Ladyl

Trust us, find something else to think about!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 11:32 PM (BiNEL)


I'm not looking anything up, trust me.

{{{ Hrothgar}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:36 PM (TdMsT)

266 "So I'm looking for a new crockpot recipe for chicken, and I thought - spaghetti sauce.
Have you ever used spaghetti sauce with chicken in the crockpot? with noodles cooked separately and topped with parmesan cheese?
"
-Posted by: ALH at September 21, 2019 11:27 PM (u6t70)

Look up "Chicken Cacciatore".

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:36 PM (Ckg4U)

267 I remember the first time I heard Faith Hill.

She was the musical acton David Letterman (hey, back when he was funny). The voice was amazing. They did a close up shot of her, and I was shocked how beautiful she was, and how utterly perfect her skin was.

Posted by: Flyover at September 21, 2019 11:37 PM (B5K06)

268 I must have had eight or ten glass coffee tables of different heights and designs in my house...

Posted by: Danny Thomas at September 21, 2019 11:37 PM (CDDoG)

269 That vegan for life clown is a walking billboard for what NOT to do for food. I realize some people are naturally skinny but he looks like a moving cadaver. And praise from PITA? Oh yeah, that's going to improve his image as a dweeb.
Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 11:29 PM (bmdz3)

------

Dude, Moby is the ur-Dweeb. The dweebingest dweeb who ever dweebed, in the dweeby history of dweebery.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (5aX2M)

270 255 Ladyl

Trust us, find something else to think about!
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 11:32 PM (BiNEL)


Thank you all for looking out for my higher good!

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

271
Here's a 2018 paper on Xanax, and why has a much higher addiction potential that other benzos:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles
/PMC5846112/

remove line feed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (f1Vqw)

272 That skinny had the back cantilevered and a car port underneath.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:07 PM (2DOZq)

And where do the second and third cars go, when it gets rented out to college students?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (jEgzt)

273 245 that's interesting about Xanax

My wife has been prescribed it and taking it with no problems. Because we have similar problems I've actually taken a few of hers and I've never found it addictive or outrageous and neither has she.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (XuVUT)

274 Moby is Stupor-Dweeb?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (QSzhg)

275 Glass top table makes me think of Mattress Girl

Posted by: VMom's phone at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (G546f)

276 {{{Slap}}}

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (TdMsT)

277 I"ve got Urban Dictionary on 'speed dial' in my browser's search bar... Bad idea?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (7WaWV)

278 Howdy darlin' Ladyl.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:39 PM (Ckg4U)

279 Whoops. ...forgot Protocol.

{{{Ladyl}}}!

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:40 PM (Ckg4U)

280 I"ve got Urban Dictionary on 'speed dial' in my browser's search bar... Bad idea?
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto
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Clever, very clever...but I'm not looking up 'speed dial'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 11:40 PM (xSo9G)

281 What's amazing about it is that it's small enough to fit inside a regular baseball hat, doesn't use batteries, and actually works.


After you take it off your hair falls out in an hour

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2019 11:40 PM (WF/xn)

282 42 Besides being just wrong I wouldn't eat a veggie burger just because global warming assholes want me to.
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:16 PM (ZCEU2)

Pretty much what I think about it.

Posted by: Flyover at September 21, 2019 11:41 PM (B5K06)

283 Nobody ever has an addiction problem until they do. I used to just get under the coffee table every once in awhile no problem. But then, slowly, it was every other day then everyday then multiple times a day...

Posted by: Danny Thomas at September 21, 2019 11:41 PM (CDDoG)

284 If you have that site pinned in your tool-bar, how is that speed dial?

Nyah.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:41 PM (QSzhg)

285 273 245 that's interesting about Xanax

My wife has been prescribed it and taking it with no problems. Because we have similar problems I've actually taken a few of hers and I've never found it addictive or outrageous and neither has she.

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 21, 2019 11:38 PM (XuVUT)


My psychologist/commie buddy told me that Xanax can be habit forming, but is not addictive if taken as directed. I don't care either way, as I rarely take it, and I take no other medication at all I intend to keep it that way.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (TdMsT)

286 I'm not addicted to coffee
I just need it to function

Posted by: VMom's phone at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (G546f)

287 16 "The Impossible Burger is available in stores." Tonite, they're two for six bucks at BK, with all the fixins. Why cook?

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 10:07 PM (mk9aG)


Agreed. Why cook when they go into the garbage can just as easily raw?

Posted by: TheHoser at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (v3UCk)

288 What's amazing about it is that it's small enough to fit inside a regular baseball hat, doesn't use batteries, and actually works.


After you take it off your hair falls out in an hour
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway
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The question is, what *does* it use? Radium? Goat testicles?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (xSo9G)

289 VMom needs that coffee cup that was posted this morning.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (QSzhg)

290 I see Jordan Peterson is in rehab for clonazepam.
Those drugs...

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:43 PM (Bf3hj)

291 Hadrian, Congrats on the fine show and for the peaceful ride home. You should be both proud and relieved.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 11:43 PM (bmdz3)

292 "That's exactly what they want you to think!"

Thinking for myself, I note that all of the domesticated animals and plants we eat have been engineered thru millennia of artificial-selection breeding. They are healthier and yield more food nutrition, thru the use of veterinary drugs and artificial fertilizers and herbicides. Our foods store longer and have greater variety of taste by using various preservatives and additives. I personally prefer the taste of artificial sweeteners over sugar in drinks.

I mean, unless you farm all your own food "organically," and eat it raw, there's going to be some chemistry and engineering involved.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:43 PM (mk9aG)

293 I had a plateful of sliders from Omaha Steaks this evening.

If that makes me a bad person, I'll just have to live with the shame. Somehow.






























Posted by: Miklos, who now does steaks sous vide (no homo) at September 21, 2019 11:44 PM (QzkSJ)

294 Bring on the drugs. Better living through chemistry!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:45 PM (NWiLs)

295 Jordan Peterson is a liar and a charlatan. The Horde fill figure-it-out. You're a smart bunch.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:45 PM (Ckg4U)

296 Uh oh

Posted by: Miklos at September 21, 2019 11:45 PM (QzkSJ)

297 294 Bring on the drugs. Better living through chemistry!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:45 PM (NWiLs


My dad died at almost 99. He never took any medication.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (TdMsT)

298 Miklos is 'living on the edge'

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (QSzhg)

299 -Posted by: Miklos, who now does steaks sous vide (no homo) at September 21, 2019 11:44 PM (QzkSJ)

Not "Barrel-Worthy", but now you need to return the Pony Keg to the Distributor.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (Ckg4U)

300 soy leghemoglobin in the impossible 'meat' is a genetically modified yeast. Weren't the Greens raising hell a few years back about genetically modified foods, etc? But now it's okay?
It's impossible that I will buy this carp.

Because male carnivore!



Posted by: boynsea at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (Fks5r)

301 I think that's impossible but who knows?
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 10:40 PM (7EIHE)


It's true.

Posted by: Flyover at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (B5K06)

302 I don't see the impburger, per se, as any kind of threat to our way of life.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:29 PM (mk9aG)

It is a direct attack on the ranching industry in the name of Global Warming hysteria. Vegans don't need counterfeit meat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (jEgzt)

303 Peterson is both of those, and worse. Clean your room and take your pills isnt working out so well. Still, rehab? Ouch

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (Bf3hj)

304 I'm not addicted to coffee

I just need it to function
Posted by: VMom's phone at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (G546f)


Someone in recovery told me that addiction is where you don't want it but you need it.
It is an odd feeling to hit the end of your leash like that.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (xG/b0)

305 297 294 Bring on the drugs. Better living through chemistry!
Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:45 PM (NWiLs


My dad died at almost 99. He never took any medication.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (TdMsT)

Genetics.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (NWiLs)

306 Not "Barrel-Worthy", but now you need to return the Pony Keg to the Distributor.
Posted by: Slapweasel

Here they are closed on Sundays. It's The Law.

Posted by: Miklos, heart restarting at September 21, 2019 11:47 PM (QzkSJ)

307 295 Jordan Peterson is a liar and a charlatan. The Horde fill figure-it-out. You're a smart bunch.
Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:45 PM (Ckg4U)


Didn't he betray us on Kavanaugh?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:47 PM (TdMsT)

308 gp, you didn't look at the videos I linked, I guess.

I don't detest or even dislike vegans. I'm just sayin that for some reason, there is some nefarious stuff going down, and that the "heme" in impossible foods might be actual blood.

from horrifying sources.

Posted by: booknlass at September 21, 2019 11:47 PM (xIKXj)

309 Horrifying sources?

Soylent Green is real?

Planned Parenthood?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:48 PM (QSzhg)

310 Try a little harder to get passed your boomer disability.
Our future may depend on it.

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:48 PM (Bf3hj)

311 Someone in recovery told me that addiction is where you don't want it but you need it.

*considers vague memories of various lady friends*

Posted by: Miklos, hemoglobin checks out ok at September 21, 2019 11:48 PM (QzkSJ)

312 Anna, there's some evidence that it's possible.

Posted by: booknlass at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (xIKXj)

313 Genetics.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (NWiLs)


I hope I have my dad's genetics. He didn't start getting gray hair till he was 75 and he was still playing tennis at 88.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (TdMsT)

314 "Didn't he betray us on Kavanaugh?"
-Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:47 PM (TdMsT)

He's Canadian, so *meh*.

...but he volunteered to help write Agenda 21.

The Enemy of your Enemy is Not Necessarily your Friend.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (Ckg4U)

315 Vegan farts cause global warming!!!

And as for coffee, I can quit anytime!
*twitch*

Posted by: VMom's phone at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (G546f)

316 If you have that site pinned in your tool-bar, how is that speed dial?

Nyah.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 11:41 PM



It's a feature in Firefox -- I just call it 'speed dial' for lack of the proper term...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (7WaWV)

317 Ok I will bite.
Why is Jordan Peterson a charlatan etc?

Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:50 PM (RiTnx)

318 My wife has been prescribed it and taking it with no problems. Because we have similar problems I've actually taken a few of hers and I've never found it addictive or outrageous and neither has she.

-------

If used intermittently/in light-to-moderate dosage, they aren't particularly dangerous, and are beneficial for certain people.

But they are habit forming, and are often overprescribed (in terms of dosage/frequency) because it's an easy answer for severe anxiety.

This is a problem because it can have extremely adverse reactions with alcohol (abuse of which is frequently comorbid with panic disorders), and deadly ones with opioids.

And once a bad dependency develops, withdrawals can also be deadly, unlike most other drugs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 11:50 PM (5aX2M)

319 If you have that site pinned in your tool-bar, how is that speed dial?

Nyah.

He meant pinned to the bar stool.

It's late.

Posted by: Miklos, Budapest bars open in about an hour at September 21, 2019 11:51 PM (QzkSJ)

320 So Read Jordanetics if you really are really interested in his scam, eh.
But oh, thats right, its the dreaded alt Right that actually took the time to publicly go after him. SOoo...best just leave him alone. His enemy is your???

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:52 PM (Bf3hj)

321 OK, Enough boomerville for one night, Football comes early in the MTZ

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:53 PM (Bf3hj)

322 "Ok I will bite.
Why is Jordan Peterson a charlatan etc?
"
-Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:50 PM (RiTnx)

I'll refer you to Vox Day's "takes" on Peterson. Vox wrote a whole book about Peterson's "turn" from minor fame to lunacy.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:53 PM (Ckg4U)

323 My use of Xanax is constrained to overseas flights. Wake me up when we get to Heathrow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 11:54 PM (xSo9G)

324 Like those cheeseburgers from AMPM that taste nothing like meat. They're great !

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 21, 2019 11:54 PM (WF/xn)

325 G'Night, Quilp.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 21, 2019 11:54 PM (Ckg4U)

326 No no, look it up!

Posted by: Danny Thomas at September 21, 2019 11:55 PM (v3UCk)

327 My use of Xanax is constrained to overseas flights. Wake me up when we get to Heathrow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

It also helps with the English food once you get there.

Posted by: Miklos, hip hip at September 21, 2019 11:55 PM (QzkSJ)

328 323 My use of Xanax is constrained to overseas flights. Wake me up when we get to Heathrow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 11:54 PM (xSo9G)


I've taken it when I've flown overseas. I don't much love flying.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:56 PM (TdMsT)

329 "It is a direct attack on the ranching industry in the name of Global Warming hysteria."

Now who's being hysterical? Aren't you glad that automobile companies directly attacked the livery and stables industry? Or that computer companies directly attacked the abacus and sliderule makers?

I don't get the angst over this probably-doomed-to-fail impburger. Times change, and we are currently living in the most prosperous time in history, with a range of consumer choices that shames the wealth of kings of only a century ago.

I'll worry much more about the threat of Global Warming Hysterics when they try to stick me with a carbon tax, or take away my car.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:56 PM (mk9aG)

330 Xanax is amazing for flights to Europe or Asia. I actually sleep and am not like the living dead once I arrive.

Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:57 PM (RiTnx)

331
I'll worry much more about the threat of Global Warming Hysterics when they try to stick me with a carbon tax, or take away my car.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:56 PM (mk9aG)


If it can be imagined, it will come to pass.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:57 PM (TdMsT)

332 The Mystery Clip is a clear case of Cultural Appropriation. A black dude singing an Irish song? Nope. No good. (Not to mention it's the crappiest cover of the song I've ever heard.)

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 21, 2019 11:58 PM (mo1Sv)

333 304 I'm not addicted to coffee

I just need it to function
Posted by: VMom's phone at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (G546f)

Someone in recovery told me that addiction is where you don't want it but you need it.
It is an odd feeling to hit the end of your leash like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (xG/b0)


I'm addicted to coffee. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 11:58 PM (aA3+G)

334 332 The Mystery Clip is a clear case of Cultural Appropriation. A black dude singing an Irish song? Nope. No good. (Not to mention it's the crappiest cover of the song I've ever heard.)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 21, 2019 11:58 PM (mo1Sv)

Metallica's version is way better.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 11:58 PM (NWiLs)

335 "the "heme" in impossible foods might be actual blood. from horrifying sources."

Can you save me some time and tell me what sources you suspect? We all love eating blood from animals, so it must not be them.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:59 PM (mk9aG)

336 If it can be imagined, it will come to pass.
Posted by: Ladyl

Now that the world is led by 16 year old Swedish retard kids, probably.

Posted by: Miklos, law is to be vacated forthwith at September 21, 2019 11:59 PM (QzkSJ)

337

A carbon tax. An oxygen tax. A hydrogen tax.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 11:59 PM (aKsyK)

338 A meat tax because eating meat is a sin against Gaia.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:00 AM (QSzhg)

339 We have 5 years.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 12:00 AM (EgshT)

340 "If it can be imagined, it will come to pass." I'm sure they'll try as hard as they can, and that is more worth worrying about than the impburger.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:01 AM (mk9aG)

341 A carbon tax. An oxygen tax. A hydrogen tax.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Maryland already taxed rain.

Posted by: Miklos, all is possible at September 22, 2019 12:01 AM (QzkSJ)

342 Google Camp said 14 months Greta.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:01 AM (QSzhg)

343 > why is fungi allowable on a vegan diet?

Good question. They're not plants. They're their own kingdom, and they're actually considerably closer to animals on a genetic basis than they are to plants.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2019 12:01 AM (9xVRr)

344 "If it can be imagined, it will come to pass."
-Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 11:57 PM (TdMsT)

Let's keep that from coming here through the same Shame-Tactics they use against us.

While many cannot be Shamed, their closest friends will see them as the Outcasts that they Crave to Be.

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 22, 2019 12:02 AM (Ckg4U)

345 339 We have 5 years.
Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 12:00 AM (EgshT)

That long? What a disappointment.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:02 AM (NWiLs)

346 The lunatic Democrats liked me. They really liked me!

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 12:02 AM (EgshT)

347 gp, because the research isn't mine, I pointed you to a couple of sources.

post 192

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:03 AM (xIKXj)

348 why is fungi allowable on a vegan diet?

Good question. They're not plants. They're their own kingdom, and they're actually considerably closer to animals

"The tiny screams of porcini mushrooms"

Posted by: Miklos, with a working title at September 22, 2019 12:03 AM (QzkSJ)

349 Willie Nelson on ACL .

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:03 AM (CDGwz)

350 Bring on the drugs.

'bring on the night, i couldn't stand another hour of daylight'

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 12:03 AM (ykYG2)

351 > We have 5 years.

> Posted by: Greta Thunberg

Until when? Until you finally hit puberty on your shitty vegan diet?

P.S. malnutrition also shaves a lot of points off your I.Q.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2019 12:03 AM (9xVRr)

352 Vox Day's book, that I bought for kindle a few years ago "SJWs always lie" is the most awful rambling story of internet drama. It won't help you deal with SJWs or even identify them, beyond the obvious.

Owen Benjamin is another with a hate-boner for Peterson. I hope Owen's quest to tell the world that the moon landing was a hoax won't delay him saving the world from pedos.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (LxTcq)

353 > "The tiny screams of porcini mushrooms"

Yeast rolls are murder.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (9xVRr)

354 "Good question. They're not plants. They're their own kingdom, and they're actually considerably closer to animals on a genetic basis than they are to plants."
-Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2019 12:01 AM (9xVRr)

*watches mushroom climb screen door*

I freaking Knew It!

*fuels-up flamethrower*

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (Ckg4U)

355 Well time to go soak in the tub.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (QSzhg)

356 Why is Jordan Peterson a charlatan etc?
Posted by: keena at September 21, 2019 11:50 PM (RiTnx)


He talks about religion and Jung and how being forced to live in a lie degrades your life and makes you miserable, and eventually makes you incapable of identifying the problem, so creating a situation where solutions are not possible.

He also talks about clarity of language and the importance of trying to find ways to act that respect your beliefs and morals, and how to reinforce that in your daily life

heretical things like that.


Hey, let's talk about how Dave Ramsey is a charlatan and and flim-flam artist as well!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (xG/b0)

357 That Girdle kid seems a bit touched, Wednesday Adam's?

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2019 12:05 AM (WF/xn)

358 Willie Nelson on Anterior Cruciate Ligament?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:05 AM (7WaWV)

359 "gp, because the research isn't mine, I pointed you to a couple of sources. post 192"

Is it by-products from human abortions? Can you at least tell me that, before I spend 44 minutes on the videos?

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:06 AM (mk9aG)

360 He talks about religion and Jung and how being forced to live in a lie degrades your life and makes you miserable,

He isn't wrong about that. I speak from first-hand experience.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:06 AM (NWiLs)

361 Blue skies, from now on.

Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at September 22, 2019 12:06 AM (EgshT)

362 Willie Nelson on ACL .
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Jeebers, 86 years old.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:06 AM (xSo9G)

363 *fuels-up flamethrower*
Posted by: Slapweasel

Why the fungi hate? Give them a chance, they grow on you.

Posted by: Miklos, this one here, for example at September 22, 2019 12:07 AM (QzkSJ)

364 I like the "fun" part of fungi.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:07 AM (NWiLs)

365 Jordan Peterson is a Man who thinks, and you know? its OK if he does not agree with you 100% of the time.

To make an enemy of someone, and dismiss EVERYTHING they say, because you don't agree with him even 50% of the time, is the Problem today.

Posted by: Don Q at September 22, 2019 12:08 AM (NgKpN)

366 I thought Willie done dropped the chalupa a while back...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:08 AM (7WaWV)

367
Also, if anyone here is using Xanax - I can't emphasize this enough - discontinue it in the event that you are prescribed an opiate or opioid painkiller or cough syrup.

Doctors frequently overlook ongoing prescriptions from years ago, and benzos with opioids can cause heart failure, even in relatively low doses.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 12:09 AM (5aX2M)

368 Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:05 AM (7WaWV)


Ugh ACLs

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 12:09 AM (aA3+G)

369 Yeah... time for me to say "goodnight".

G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel ...reporting Live from the Edge at September 22, 2019 12:09 AM (Ckg4U)

370 Nighters Slap

Posted by: Miklos, he'll be back at September 22, 2019 12:10 AM (QzkSJ)

371 349 Willie Nelson on ACL .
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:03 AM (CDGwz)

Anterior cruciate ligament?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:10 AM (NWiLs)

372
Good question. They're not plants. They're their
own kingdom, and they're actually considerably closer to animals on a
genetic basis than they are to plants.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2019 12:01 AM (9xVRr)


Mushrooms have the Umami flavor, which is also the MSG flavor and the savory flavor of some fish and cooked meats. It makes a lot of other flavors "pop" in combination.

(I used to say that Umami is one of the quark flavors along with Strange, Up and Neapolitan -- that is until I realized no one knew what I was talking about)

My GF is mostly a vegetarian, but mostly because she doesn't like beef or pork much, and will only eat the tiniest amount of chicken or bacon. But she also hates mushrooms, so she can't eat most vegan stuff because they mix mushrooms into everything.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:10 AM (xG/b0)

373 If one's going to use benzos concomittantly with opiates, he needs to add ETOH to the mix to keep his heart going!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (7WaWV)

374 I find much of what Jordan Peterson says is agreeable. His delivery is more like that of a TED-talker or PBS shill than that of a real scholar, but that's a mere quibble. I'm sorry to hear about his wife's illness and his addiction. He seems like the kind of guy who will overcome.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (mk9aG)

375 I like the "fun" part of fungi.
Posted by: Insomniac

Some mushroom are magic.

Posted by: Miklos "Carlos" Castaneda at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (QzkSJ)

376 I'll worry much more about the threat of Global Warming Hysterics when they try to stick me with a carbon tax, or take away my car.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:56 PM (mk9aG)

Global Warming hysteric Al Gore is one of the biggest investors in Beyond Meat. This is a scheme designed to "prove" we don't need meat, and once the Frankenmeat is widely used, the next step will be heavy luxury taxes on real meat, on the pretext that cattle ranching is "carbon intensive."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (jEgzt)

377 Insomnia -- I will definitely hunt that version up. Thanks for the tip.

Impossible burger -- aside from the bad memory of the really, really disgusting soy enhanced ground beef sold back in the early '70s, dry beans are verboten for dialysis patients. The XO tried an Impossible Whopper and thought it was okay and might get one every now and again for Friday. ( Unreconstructed Roman Catholic raised by two Irish Catholics. Never really got into Vatican II. Goes to the only Latin mass in Omaha.) If I think about it, I'll have to ask a nutrionist.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (mo1Sv)

378 gp, that's a possibility. research makes it less a loony idea.

but yes.

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:12 AM (xIKXj)

379 373 If one's going to use benzos concomittantly with opiates, he needs to add ETOH to the mix to keep his heart going!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (7WaWV)

*check cupboard*

Damn, no opiates.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:12 AM (NWiLs)

380 "gp, because the research isn't mine, I pointed you to a couple of sources. post 192"

Is it blood from executed prisoners, or live prisoners being drained? Or cats and dogs from pounds? Or can you give me a cite that I can read, instead of videos?

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:13 AM (mk9aG)

381 Synthetic 'meat'? Thanks, but no thanks. I'm not inclined to any synthetic foods.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:14 AM (xSo9G)

382 Imma head on up to the Promenade Deck... Hear tell Isaac's got opiates!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:14 AM (7WaWV)

383 Damn, no opiates.
Posted by: Insomniac

It seems only the older Docs do laudanum these days.

Posted by: Miklos, calm, very calm at September 22, 2019 12:14 AM (QzkSJ)

384 "gp, that's a possibility. research makes it less a loony idea.
but yes."

OK, I'll look into it. It will take a while before I can get back to you on it. Thanks!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:14 AM (mk9aG)

385 People who lie, their blind spots grow and they become less perceptive. Peterson says this in rather long-winded ways. And Shakespeare says it, but it even less accessible. I don't think there is a tv trope about it, except "evil cannot comprehend good".

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 12:15 AM (LxTcq)

386 I'm not inclined to any synthetic foods.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

It this a very strict rule?

Posted by: Velveeta, a cheese food product at September 22, 2019 12:16 AM (QzkSJ)

387 *check cupboard*

Damn, no opiates.
Posted by: Insomniac
-----
We have a few valium on hand, left over from when the doggeh would experience anxiety attacks during thunderstorms. She grew out of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:16 AM (xSo9G)

388 Willie Nelson can't really sing anymore, he just mouths the words. Sad.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:17 AM (xSo9G)

389 I'm not inclined to any synthetic foods.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

It this a very strict rule?
Posted by: Velveeta
----------

Are you suggesting that 'cheese food' may not be actual cheese?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:19 AM (xSo9G)

390 So far, the only real alien tech that has been back engineered is the whiz part of cheezewhiz. You are eating the propulsion system of foo fighters from outer space.

Posted by: Art's Parts at September 22, 2019 12:19 AM (vqIkG)

391 Thank you for the ONT, MisHum.

Watching "Deep Rising" which has been described as "Aliens" on a cruise ship. I would describe it as "Aliens" done with characters that have way less cardboard in them.

Not to say "Deep Rising" is free of cardboard, far from it, but it at least isn't a feminist tract which ruins movies forever.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 22, 2019 12:19 AM (l9m7l)

392 I read Peterson's book. I thought it offered some sound advice

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2019 12:19 AM (WF/xn)

393 I'm being nagged by the cat and dog to call it night.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:20 AM (xSo9G)

394 Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (mk9aG)

Quillette's and Cato's podcast drive me nuts because it sounds like NPR from the 2000's when I stopped listening.

I do listen to some of their podcasts because it is a very different view point from what I normally listen to; they go into technical subjects it can be hard to get an overview on.

And they are not NPR, though I have some nasty things to say about Cato.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:20 AM (xG/b0)

395 367 -- Yu -- Very interesting point. My dialysis fistula was created late May or 2018, and the surgeon sent me home with oxycodone. I only took a couple because I hated the way the stuff twisted my brain into a pretzel. I have been taking Xanax for years; otherwise I don't sleep. February 2019, I had a complete heart blockage and surgeon had to insert pacemaker. I woner, in light of what you posted, if there was a connection. There were nearly ten months separating the two events.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 22, 2019 12:20 AM (mo1Sv)

396
I find much of what Jordan Peterson says is agreeable. His delivery is more like that of a TED-talker or PBS shill than that of a real scholar, but that's a mere quibble.

His manner of speaking reminds me of David Horowitz.
Kind of halting.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 12:21 AM (aKsyK)

397 If one's going to use benzos concomittantly with opiates, he needs to add ETOH to the mix to keep his heart going!
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:11 AM (7WaWV)

------

LOL, for sure.

Most of the deaths are definitely from dumb kids mixing drugs and alcohol they don't really understand and then having a catastrophe.

But a disturbing minority happen because mom's on Xanax, doc doesn't notice it when she breaks her leg, so he gives her a moderate dosage prescription for Oxy or whatever, and she keels over at dinner.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 12:22 AM (5aX2M)

398 Amazing Polly, In Pursuit of Truth, and the x22 report are very good. They're the citizen journalists I wish I was.

although they probably would call themselves commenters.

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:22 AM (xIKXj)

399 Are you suggesting that 'cheese food' may not be actual cheese?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

It is a kind of eternal FDA product classification limbo.

Posted by: Velveeta Dangerfield, no respect at September 22, 2019 12:22 AM (QzkSJ)

400 And they are not NPR, though I have some nasty things to say about Cato.

At least he kept Clouseau on his toes.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at September 22, 2019 12:22 AM (xkSJa)

401 I never got on the Jordan Peterson bandwagon, so I don't have to get off it. I hope, for his sake, he gets the monkey off his back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:22 AM (jEgzt)

402 Are you suggesting that 'cheese food' may not be actual cheese?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:19 AM (xSo9G)



No, whey!

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:22 AM (xG/b0)

403 And they are not NPR, though I have some nasty things to say about Cato.
Posted by: Kindltot

Cato delendum est?

Posted by: Not normally ironic Miklos at September 22, 2019 12:23 AM (QzkSJ)

404 333 304 I'm not addicted to coffee

I just need it to function
Posted by: VMom's phone at September 21, 2019 11:42 PM (G546f)

Someone in recovery told me that addiction is where you don't want it but you need it.
It is an odd feeling to hit the end of your leash like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 11:46 PM (xG/b0)


I'm addicted to coffee. Nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian



I freebase coffee. That doesn't make me a bad person and I can stop at any time. I just don't wanna.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 12:24 AM (HCqAo)

405 Related:
I really didn't like 12 Angry Men. Fonda seems to mope his way to victory, never once being articulate or certain. His biggest antagonist self-immolates by becoming so angry. Hell I may write a sequel about the pure evil defendant laughing about getting away with murder.

Expressing yourself precisely is like a muscle that needs to be worked out regularly. It is satisfying independent of getting your way. That movie seems to say that it isn't important.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 12:26 AM (LxTcq)

406 >>>>>I freebase coffee. That doesn't make me a bad person and I can stop at any time. I just don't wanna.


Never have ever considered stopping

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 12:26 AM (aA3+G)

407 i read maybe 2/3 of Peterson's 'Rules For Life'.

I'd not call him a charlatan exactly. I'd call him a centre-right Oprah.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 12:27 AM (ykYG2)

408 Cato delendum est?
Posted by: Not normally ironic Miklos at September 22, 2019 12:23 AM (QzkSJ)



getting there, but hopefully without that whole invasion from the Iberian peninsula with elephants.


You know how Ace is on about David French et al have this conservative take on progressive ideas?

Cato appears to be the only mainstream libertarian organization that supports deplatforming -- you know, only for those hateful people like Gab and 8chan.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:27 AM (xG/b0)

409 I love cats. And I love dogs. Met a Great Pyrannies named "Bear" and a bunch of tiny dogs, one named Sophie.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 22, 2019 12:29 AM (l9m7l)

410 now, if you're Just Asking Questions about the Moon landing, I will call you a charlatan.

Jordan Peterson > Vox Day

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 12:29 AM (ykYG2)

411 "once the Frankenmeat is widely used, the next step will be heavy luxury taxes on real meat, on the pretext that cattle ranching is "carbon intensive.""

OK, I see the connection btw influential warmists and meat industry that you are concerned about, and will look into it more. N.B.: I don't have any stake (pun) in the ranching industry, so I don't personally have a big incentive to fight to save it.

Truth is, meat is already quite expensive, due to the demand of a growing global middle-class, and the price inflation pressure of our out-of-control money-supply creation. Since I retired, good quality meat is really already priced out of reach of my daily diet, even without the threat of frankenfood. I haven't had an actual steak in over a year.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:29 AM (mk9aG)

412 Henry Fonda put me off at the end of Grapes of Wrath when he played Tom Joad and seemed to become one with his character at the end, talking about becoming a commie spirit or something.

he just seemed so self-righteous

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:30 AM (xIKXj)

413 Cato appears to be the only mainstream libertarian organization that supports deplatforming -- you know, only for those hateful people like Gab and 8chan.
Posted by: Kindltot

I don't pay attention. Some kind of institutional capture?

They mainly think Jordan Peterson should be free to smoke dope?

Posted by: Miklos, the Constitution is freaking libertarian at September 22, 2019 12:32 AM (QzkSJ)

414 I'm radically indifferent in regards to Jordan Peterson. I do hope he shakes his addiction though.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 12:32 AM (HCqAo)

415 if the mower was a self propelled one it would be even better.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at September 22, 2019 12:33 AM (cxIsI)

416 you know, the connections between the impossible foods company and nefarious global leftists, who want to destroy animal farming, are right out in the open


they want to destroy flyover country, farmers, the rust belt, POTUS voters. conservatives, christians, ranchers, cowboys and cowgirls. Americans.

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:33 AM (xIKXj)

417 Truth is, meat is already quite expensive, due to the demand of a growing global middle-class, and the price inflation pressure of our out-of-control money-supply creation. Since I retired, good quality meat is really already priced out of reach of my daily diet, even without the threat of frankenfood. I haven't had an actual steak in over a year.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:29 AM (mk9aG)

If the Frankenmeat becomes popular, and they succeed in shutting down ranchers, look for real meat to become even more costly.

When have Leftists ever been satisfied with a market solution to one of their "problems", if they are able to force compliance?

Camel's nose, tent. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:34 AM (jEgzt)

418 When have Leftists ever been satisfied with a market solution to one of their "problems", if they are able to force compliance?

Camel's nose, tent. Some assembly required.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:34 AM (jEgzt)

Force is what they're all about.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:35 AM (NWiLs)

419 From what I've seen over the years, the killjoys seem bound, bit, and determined to destroy the coffee industry and withhold it from the people who enjoy it. I think it's analogous to those nitwits at Science in the Public Interest -- if it tastes good and makes you happy, it's got to be bad for you. (Tacos in Omaha haven't been the same since all the Mexican restaurants stopped using lard to fry their tacos in and started using "approved" vegetable oil.)

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 22, 2019 12:36 AM (mo1Sv)

420 I'd not call him a charlatan exactly. I'd call him a centre-right Oprah.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 12:27 AM (ykYG2)

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Exactly, except maybe I'd call him center-left. Not that it matters, because he's a centrist.

In any event, he gets little old ladies and wine moms and pajama-boys to question their default Leftism.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 12:36 AM (5aX2M)

421 I love cats. And I love dogs. Met a Great Pyrannies named "Bear" and a bunch of tiny dogs, one named Sophie.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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Mike Hammer's Cat, and dog Sophie:

http://tinyurl.com/y3bxn5vs

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 12:36 AM (xSo9G)

422 now, if you're Just Asking Questions about the Moon landing, I will call you a charlatan.

It was rough, I'll tell ya.

When the Moon Maidens attacked, everybody panicked but me. Neil, or Nell, whatever, good guy, but lost it. But I though they smelled pretty good. One winked at me. So I called up to Brian on the Command Thing, and we got it handled. True story.

Posted by: Joe "Hands On" Biden at September 22, 2019 12:37 AM (QzkSJ)

423 "Quillette's and Cato's podcast drive me nuts because it sounds like NPR from the 2000's when I stopped listening."

Life is too short to learn things from videos and podcasts, when I'd rather read stuff instead. The trend toward video and audio, and away from written text is maddening.

Then there's the trend to "clickify" all textual stuff; instead of giving you four straight paragraphs, they package it into clickable animated unfolding bites, littered with clip art and stock photos. All distractions, wastes of time, and obstacles to concentrated thought.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:37 AM (mk9aG)

424 "If the Frankenmeat becomes popular, and they succeed in shutting down ranchers, look for real meat to become even more costly."

Yes, that's indisputable.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:39 AM (mk9aG)

425
Reading that paper on Xanax, I got interested in some of the references and was clicky-clacking. Here's a SAMSHA report on drug related ER visits from the period 2004-2011, the DAWN study:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yy2fk5as

From 2004 - 2011, the number of drug abuse ER visits per population increased 100%.

There's a ton of data there, broken down in all sorts of ways. Alcohol alone was just under 5%, illegal drugs were 27%, legal drugs (being abused) were 34% and the rest were combinations.

It gets quite involved. IN combination with alcohol, opiates were #1, followed by benzos.

Now, with pharmaceuticals alone (no alcohol or other drugs), benzos were about 28%, and opiods were 39%.

When you break it down by indivdual drug, oxycodone/contin was #1, with 12% and Xanax was #2, with just under 10%

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 12:42 AM (f1Vqw)

426 if the mower was a self propelled one it would be even better.
Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at September 22, 2019 12:33 AM (cxIsI)

My father built a riding mower for me to use when I was about ten years old. He started with an ancient power reel mower, and removed the handlebar. He then built a little wheeled sulky that attached to the handlebar's mounting points. The sulky had throttle and clutch controls for the mower, and bicycle handlebars to steer the sulky wheels, which were on an axle right under the seat. He ended up putting dual wheels on the mower to give it the traction it needed.

It worked very well, and I mowed the lawn with it for years. It was powered by a 5/8 HP Iron Horse engine, of the type once seen on washing machines. Cut an 18" swath, IIRC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:42 AM (jEgzt)

427 So I invited my piano teacher who, despite clearly being a liberal , (musician, Jewish, broke) is a pretty good guy and fun to play piano with, to my house for a BBQ/small party. He gladly accepts but informs me he is a vegetarian. and should he bring his own food and has never cooked on grill his whole life WTF? Why do people have to complicate life like this?

How is this possible? The guy studied all over Europe, speaks 3 language fluently, knows everything about piano and classical music but knows nothing about cooking on a grill? Is this what passes for sophisticated?

Posted by: Ripley at September 22, 2019 12:43 AM (NbRJx)

428 "If the Frankenmeat becomes popular, and they succeed in shutting down ranchers, look for real meat to become even more costly."

As long as Iowa has the first primaries...


The Dem candidates were at the Iowa Steak Fry (which sounds like a horrible idea) but they cooked 10,500 steaks, with all the Dems smiling and asking for votes.

Then again, lefties are consistent, in their lying shitweasel way.

Posted by: Miklos, Friend to all Noble Weasel and Slapweasel Peoples at September 22, 2019 12:44 AM (QzkSJ)

429 "if you're Just Asking Questions about the Moon landing, I will call you a charlatan."

I hang out at unz a bit, and they have all that crazy stuff, along with a big big dose of anti-semitism. I read some of what they have on moon landing truth, 9-11 truth, Sandy Hook truth, etc. I remain unconvinced, but I'm glad there's an open forum for unusual stuff, just like I'm glad the world has unusual foods and movies and books to try.

Over there I comment as "gutta percha," which is what gp stands for.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (mk9aG)

430 Think of how the wide swath when you build a mower out of your Suburban.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (LxTcq)

431 A childhood friend's son died a couple weeks ago

28 years old. heart exploded.

it's whispered he was "on drugs" but I'm not going to ask. here in Forgottonia, downstate Illinois, the recovery of our great US economy might be a little late for many young men.

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (xIKXj)

432 gp, I spend about an hour a day commuting. I can listen to podcasts, top 40 radio or talkshows studded with commercials, oh, or the Russian station.

Oh, I can hum to myself too.

Of them all, the Russian station comes in second after podcasts, and I don't speak Russian.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (xG/b0)

433
You can also see acetaminophen (Tylenol) overdoses showing up there. Alone, APAP was 3.2% and 2.7% in the combo with alcohol class.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 12:46 AM (f1Vqw)

434 Over there I comment as "gutta percha," which is what gp stands for.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated

Considered and approved.

Posted by: Miklos, for the Estate of Preston Brooks at September 22, 2019 12:47 AM (QzkSJ)

435 Then there's the trend to "clickify" all textual stuff; instead of giving you four straight paragraphs, they package it into clickable animated unfolding bites, littered with clip art and stock photos. All distractions, wastes of time, and obstacles to concentrated thought.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:37 AM



You need to get yourself some uBlock Origin in your 'puter!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 12:48 AM (7WaWV)

436 Then there's the trend to "clickify" all textual stuff; instead of giving you four straight paragraphs, they package it into clickable animated unfolding bites, littered with clip art and stock photos. All distractions, wastes of time, and obstacles to concentrated thought.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:37 AM (mk9aG)

Tend to agree, but I find videos can be useful for some technical stuff. Provided the video maker knows his shit, and explains as he/she proceeds. I wanted to know how to get the factory radio out of my '08 Suburban; found a Ewetoob video that showed exactly how, in less than five minutes. And you can see it being done.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:48 AM (jEgzt)

437 Why would I need to eat synthetic meat? My husband is sitting right here.

Posted by: tcn in AK at September 22, 2019 12:49 AM (vVOK2)

438 431 A childhood friend's son died a couple weeks ago

28 years old. heart exploded.

it's whispered he was "on drugs" but I'm not going to ask. here in Forgottonia, downstate Illinois, the recovery of our great US economy might be a little late for many young men.
Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (xIKXj)

That's rather awful. As an aside, economic recovery or no, great numbers of young men aren't being given much to live for these days anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:49 AM (NWiLs)

439 "but I find videos can be useful for some technical stuff." Oh yes, the how-to videos on youtube are great!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:51 AM (mk9aG)

440 Think of how the wide swath when you build a mower out of your Suburban.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (LxTcq)

Heh. I have a six-foot rough-cut mower on my tractor, now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:51 AM (jEgzt)

441 That's rather awful. As an aside, economic recovery or no, great numbers of young men aren't being given much to live for these days anyway.
Posted by: Insomniac a

Many young men (and women) have observed what divorce means, and how it works. Therefore no marriage, because not entirely stupid.

Posted by: Miklos, married? No, happy at September 22, 2019 12:51 AM (QzkSJ)

442 agreed, Insomn. If they listen to their "betters" which some of them must in order to be cool, not much faith, hope or love in it.

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:52 AM (xIKXj)

443

The economic Crisis of '08 shows up in that drug data.

Half of the increase in ER drug events occurred in the '09 - '11 period. While the detailed data isn't yet broken down, things seem to have stabilized after that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 12:52 AM (f1Vqw)

444 That's rather awful. As an aside, economic recovery or no, great numbers of young men aren't being given much to live for these days anyway.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:49 AM (NWiLs)

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Which is catastrophic for this country if not reversed.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 12:52 AM (RU4sa)

445
I've got a 15' bush hog. I'm well hung with mowers.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 12:53 AM (f1Vqw)

446 "gp, I spend about an hour a day commuting. I can listen to podcasts, top 40 radio or talkshows studded with commercials, oh, or the Russian station."

I failed to consider commute downtime, or treadmill downtime, etc. I take your point!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:53 AM (mk9aG)

447 Misandry is the name of the game, now...sad to say.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 12:53 AM (RU4sa)

448 Why would I need to eat synthetic meat? My husband is sitting right here.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 22, 2019 12:49 AM (vVOK2)

Does filet of Beto count as synthetic meat, if you shot him when he was in his Furry suit?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:53 AM (jEgzt)

449 WSU: 300 yards in the 2nd QUARTER

Posted by: Igotnothing at September 22, 2019 12:53 AM (xf2hT)

450 Heh. I have a six-foot rough-cut mower on my tractor, now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

If you need a tedder, I can get you one wholesale.

Posted by: Miklos, jumping down, turning around at September 22, 2019 12:54 AM (QzkSJ)

451 Many young men (and women) have observed what divorce means, and how it works. Therefore no marriage, because not entirely stupid.

Posted by: Miklos, married? No, happy at September 22, 2019 12:51 AM (QzkSJ)

That's certainly one factor. If I knew then what I know now I would not have gotten married.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:54 AM (NWiLs)

452 well, POTUS is doing what he can. lowest unemployment for what, 50 years?

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:54 AM (xIKXj)

453 Half of the increase in ER drug events occurred in the '09 - '11 period. While the detailed data isn't yet broken down, things seem to have stabilized after that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 12:52 AM (f1Vqw)

Another stellar success of the Obama Economic Miracle!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:54 AM (jEgzt)

454 WSU: 300 yards in the 2nd QUARTER
Posted by: Igotnothing

The Men's or the Women's?

Posted by: Miklos, you gotta ask these days at September 22, 2019 12:55 AM (QzkSJ)

455 Miklos, I think it is the National Review-ization of the establishment (heh) libertarian groups.

I strongly suspect they are trying to pull a Buckley and drive all competitors away to leave themselves supreme in the libertarian sphere.

8chan and GAB are both "hotbeds of racism" per MSM and they would know since they are the media and they know who should be deplatformed -- like there isn't any possible ulterior motive there.

They are also uncouth and don't fight like gentlemen, and mess up the planned (heh) and ordered set battles over policy with our dear colleagues.

However, Cato does do good, measured discussions of things like bitcoin and rent controls.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 12:56 AM (xG/b0)

456 442 agreed, Insomn. If they listen to their "betters" which some of them must in order to be cool, not much faith, hope or love in it.
Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:52 AM (xIKXj)

No, there certainly isn't. Also, men and masculinity are increasingly ridiculed, marginalized, ostracized, blamed, ashamed and vilified. Living in that kind of a society isn't much to look forward to.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:56 AM (NWiLs)

457 "here in Forgottonia, downstate Illinois" I love southern Illinois! You have so many beautiful nature preserves down there. I've vacationed there twice, photographing plants and bugs and snakes. The people are nicer there than here too.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 12:57 AM (mk9aG)

458
A neighbor of mine bought a tedder years ago, may he rest in peace. He called it a "tether", and I didn't have the heart to correct him.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 12:57 AM (f1Vqw)

459 What is a tedder? Something that lays the crop out to dry? Or is it another term for "swather"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:59 AM (jEgzt)

460 447 Misandry is the name of the game, now...sad to say.
Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 12:53 AM (RU4sa)

It's in the classrooms, the colleges, the courtrooms and the TV commercials, just to name a few. When the constant message is you're an idiot, a rapist, or generally worthless just for being male, it doesn't lead to a very good view of the self.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:59 AM (NWiLs)

461 A nation of soyboys.

This is what the left wants.

Easier to control.

Easier to discard once their usefulness has been exhausted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEidCVusDkY&t=1s

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 12:59 AM (RU4sa)

462 A childhood friend's son died a couple weeks ago

28 years old. heart exploded.

it's whispered he was "on drugs" but I'm not going to ask. here in Forgottonia, downstate Illinois, the recovery of our great US economy might be a little late for many young men.
Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 12:45 AM (xIKXj)

That's rather awful. As an aside, economic recovery or no, great numbers of young men aren't being given much to live for these days anyway.

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The drugs are a symptom. The rich use them to escape the boredom, the poor to escape the misery. The middle class use them to escape the drudgery.

Whether it's drugs you're worried about, or guns, or rape, or whatever it is, the problem stems from the cultural root.

But I'm hoping that's starting to change.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 01:00 AM (5aX2M)

463

Look up pictures of tedders. It basically turns over the cut hay (before raking into windrows). It speeds up drying and lets you bale it faster.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:01 AM (f1Vqw)

464 459 What is a tedder? Something that lays the crop out to dry? Or is it another term for "swather"?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 12:59 AM (jEgzt)

It's the act of leaving a girl in a submerged automobile to drown.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:01 AM (NWiLs)

465 It's the act of leaving a girl in a submerged automobile to drown.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:01 AM



Thread winner nomination?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:03 AM (7WaWV)

466
By turning over the underside of the cut hay crop lying in the field, it also lets air out better and keeps it from getting moldy, as a little bit always will.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:04 AM (f1Vqw)

467 It's in the classrooms, the colleges, the courtrooms and the TV commercials, just to name a few. When the constant message is you're an idiot, a rapist, or generally worthless just for being male, it doesn't lead to a very good view of the self.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:59 AM (NWiLs)

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Yeah, and it pisses me off.

I chose male-oriented fields because frankly, I can't stand being around a bunch of women in the workplace.

Now, a world ran by females...

*shudders*

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:04 AM (RU4sa)

468 It's the act of leaving a girl in a submerged automobile to drown.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:01 AM (NWiLs)

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Oooh... SNAP!!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 01:05 AM (5aX2M)

469 You know, if all the criminals who've sucked the life out of our Republic were arrested, tried, and met the fate they've earned, it might wake up the young men and give them hope.

picture the King after Worm-tongue's spell is broken

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 01:05 AM (xIKXj)

470 economic recovery or no, great numbers of young men aren't being given much to live for these days anyway

I was trying to explain that over on Instapundit just yesterday, when he posted some Stossel comment about how the future so bright we gotta wear SHADES.

Trump gets credit for slowing down the rot. Seriously, he does. Mais apres lui le deluge.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 01:05 AM (ykYG2)

471 Look up pictures of tedders. It basically turns over the cut hay (before raking into windrows). It speeds up drying and lets you bale it faster.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:01 AM (f1Vqw)

I don't see them used in my neck of the woods. I think they use a swather, let it dry in the swath, and then bale from the swath.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:06 AM (jEgzt)

472 461 A nation of soyboys.

This is what the left wants.

Easier to control.

Easier to discard once their usefulness has been exhausted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEidCVusDkY&t=1s
Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 12:59 AM (RU4sa)

"Children of the Quorn" LOL

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:07 AM (NWiLs)

473 I once worked on a dairy farm and made hay, but I've never heard of nor seen a 'tedder'...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:09 AM (7WaWV)

474 Tedders are used here.

Got caught behind one just the other day.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:09 AM (RU4sa)

475 "I can't stand being around a bunch of women in the workplace." Yes, for many reasons. But since I started taking my new pill five days ago, I feel much less an urge to offend the ettes with my misogynism here. A cheerier, more agreeable gp is aborning.

I love you guys!

73
QRT

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 22, 2019 01:10 AM (mk9aG)

476 473 I once worked on a dairy farm and made hay, but I've never heard of nor seen a 'tedder'...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:09 AM (7WaWV)

While the sun shone?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:10 AM (NWiLs)

477 I see hay rakes in Alberta. Typically the big disc-shaped rakes that turn from ground drag.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:11 AM (jEgzt)

478 It was always just cut, rake, and bale...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:11 AM (7WaWV)

479 Look up pictures of tedders. It basically turns over the cut hay (before raking into windrows). It speeds up drying and lets you bale it faster.


A tedder prepares the silage for baling. A baler is a separate piece of equipment. There are stand alone balers, but tedders are generally add-ons to agro machines, usually tractors. You can add a tedder and a baler to one tractor and do it all in one.

Posted by: Miklos, it is about efficiency at September 22, 2019 01:12 AM (QzkSJ)

480 new Colter Wall on Western AF

"Cowpoke"

https://youtu.be/MmxKsK90L14

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 01:12 AM (xIKXj)

481 lol Insomniac

And that fake me out meat?

Made out of soy.

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:12 AM (RU4sa)

482

IIRC, it was around the early '90s when the hay guys around here started getting tedders. Looking up the history, they've been around for a long time, but apparently not all that common until later.

Just about everyone uses them now around here. It may vary with climate, I don't know. In humid, hot areas, like around here, it might be better worth or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:12 AM (f1Vqw)

483
Rodrigo Borgia posted this on my way to work, but in light of the vegan topic, I'm reposting.

Get a load of how lame Portland Antifa is:

https://tinyurl.com/soi-boi-taco

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 01:13 AM (5aX2M)

484 454 WSU: 300 yards in the 2nd QUARTER
Posted by: Igotnothing

The Men's or the Women's?
Posted by: Miklos, you gotta ask these days



We don't define ourselves by gender, bigot!

Posted by: PAC-12, woke and tolerant at September 22, 2019 01:14 AM (HCqAo)

485
The drill with the tedding. Cut it. Wait a day or so. The tedder it, then wait another day until it's dry, then rake and bale.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:14 AM (f1Vqw)

486
I'm remembering when that neighbor first got his tedder. It had three gearboxes, and the dealer had failed to fill one of them with oil. It burned out first time he used it. He was pissed, and as much with himself for not checking it.

He made the dealer make it good. Dealer didn't make too much of a fuss about it, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:16 AM (f1Vqw)

487 I once worked on a dairy farm and made hay



And what, pray tell, was the milkmaid's name?

Posted by: Miklos, in an agricultural idyll at September 22, 2019 01:16 AM (QzkSJ)

488 Dog is bugging me for something. She has just been outside, has a bowl of fresh water, and just got a biscuit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:17 AM (jEgzt)

489 gp,

Considering how my "sistahs" are behaving, misogyny is a foregone conclusion.

As far as offending the 'ettes here...lol.

For the most part, no.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:17 AM (RU4sa)

490 They is hay stacking device called beaverslide. Heh

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2019 01:18 AM (WF/xn)

491 488 Dog is bugging me for something. She has just been outside, has a bowl of fresh water, and just got a biscuit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:17 AM (jEgzt)

Give her the keyboard for 30 minutes

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 01:18 AM (aA3+G)

492 Sheesh, I'm illiterate

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2019 01:18 AM (WF/xn)

493 490 They is hay stacking device called beaverslide. Heh
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2019 01:18 AM (WF/xn)

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Sounds like a Playboy mansion attraction.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:19 AM (RU4sa)

494 This iteration of society is dying, and it is going to crash and burn hard - there's no avoiding that anymore. But when it does, it will be those remaining men who still know how to be men who will build something back up from the ashes.

No, there is no benefit for men who are that way now - but remember, this is not going to last. And when it comes down, it will come down hard. I'm glad I'm not that young, I don't think I'll live to see the end of the United States, and it's replacement by successor states. But I'm absolutely certain my grandchildren will live through that.

As hard as things are now, they're going to get much much worse before they get better. If there's a bright side, it's this - once you know you can't win, then there's no point in playing by any of the rules anymore. You can do whatever you want, as long as you're clever enough to get away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 01:19 AM (V2Yro)

495 I'm out, y'all. Catch you reprobates later.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 01:19 AM (NWiLs)

496
Hello, all. Just got back from Ad Astra. That's a dour, cold movie that rarely engaged me, except for keeping me in a constant state of tension because empty, endless space unsettles me a bit. I don't get the sense that it's anti-toxic-maleness, however, because its psychology was mostly about neurosis and batshit lunacy.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 01:19 AM (13CQC)

497 The drill with the tedding. Cut it. Wait a day or so. The tedder it, then wait another day until it's dry, then rake and bale.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:14 AM (f1Vqw)

I think Alberta is dry enough that tedding is unnecessary. And maybe in country that gets 2 hay crops a season, the tedder makes more sense. Get the cut hay off sooner so the next crop can grow?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:19 AM (jEgzt)

498 Heya MH!

Kitteh is currently on a keyboard (not mine, fortunately).

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:20 AM (RU4sa)

499 Laters, Insom.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:21 AM (RU4sa)

500 Give her the keyboard for 30 minutes
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

One visit to the Barrel is worth $500 of obedience training.

Posted by: Miklos, guessing, but rationally at September 22, 2019 01:21 AM (QzkSJ)

501
Dog is bugging me for something. She has just been outside, has a bowl of fresh water, and just got a biscuit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

=======

Critter outside? Earthquake's a comin'? You're about to stroke out?


Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 01:21 AM (13CQC)

502 Hey SMH

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 22, 2019 01:22 AM (aA3+G)

503 Peace out, Insom!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 01:22 AM (5aX2M)

504
Check out the automatic hay wagon. They pick up square bales, stack them, and unload them automatically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d3HAV0SR9A

Most everyone just used the big round bales, but I remember someone around here got one of those automatic wagons. It was not self-propelled like the above, but pull-type with a tractor.

Once you got full, you'd unload it by just backing up into the barn or wherever, and it would unload and stack it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:22 AM (f1Vqw)

505 I think Alberta is dry enough that tedding is unnecessary. And maybe in country that gets 2 hay crops a season, the tedder makes more sense. Get the cut hay off sooner so the next crop can grow?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I think it depend on climate (doesn't everything?)

Some balers used in Europe wrap the bales in plastic. Wet bales become useless. It's more expensive to wrap the bales, but then you don't need a big barn to keep it in.

Posted by: Miklos, not a Swedish retard kid at September 22, 2019 01:24 AM (QzkSJ)

506 Dog is bugging me for something. She has just been outside, has a bowl of fresh water, and just got a biscuit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------

Food. You can never go wrong with food, from the dog's perspective.

New Holland vid, re tedders. I note that they misuse 'tedder' as a verb.

http://tinyurl.com/y6yxzcww

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 01:25 AM (CDGwz)

507 Critter outside? Earthquake's a comin'? You're about to stroke out?


Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 01:21 AM (13CQC)

She might have heard a cat. When I was up on the rood yesterday, the neighbor lady hollered up to ask me if I had seen her cat, a little gray tabby. I did see a little gray tabby, very friendly, 2 weeks ago when I arrived, have not seen it since. But it could be hiding under the trailer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:25 AM (jEgzt)

508 Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 01:19 AM (V2Yro

-------

It could go that way, or not. Whatever happens, it will be yuuuge, whether for better or worse. And we'll all get to play our part in it.

Interesting times, as the Chinese supposedly say.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 01:25 AM (5aX2M)

509 Yeah, well, the Chinese can shove their interesting times.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:26 AM (RU4sa)

510 Soy face: I've said before, that the smile with the mouth wide enough for a dick a hamburger is the male version of duckface.

We have two headlines here, one about a surprise bj from a male nurse, and the other about giant vats of exploding flaming bull spunk. Something something nevertrump.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 01:26 AM (LxTcq)

511 Some balers used in Europe wrap the bales in plastic. Wet bales become useless. It's more expensive to wrap the bales, but then you don't need a big barn to keep it in.
Posted by: Miklos, not a Swedish retard kid at September 22, 2019 01:24 AM (QzkSJ)

That, I see a lot in Alberta. Big old white sausages out lying in the fields.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:27 AM (jEgzt)

512 BTW, anyone monitoring scanners in Michigan?

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:27 AM (RU4sa)

513 Yeah, well, the Chinese can shove their interesting times.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:26 AM (RU4sa)


With a chop stick. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 01:28 AM (9Om/r)

514 Soy face: I've said before, that the smile with the mouth wide enough for a hamburger is the male version of duckface.

---

It's creepy as hell.

Another thing, moobs.

Soy + guys going though puberty = moobs

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:29 AM (RU4sa)

515 I note that they misuse 'tedder' as a verb.

http://tinyurl.com/y6yxzcww
Posted by: Mike Hammer

You have never written sales copy for agro machine makers, have you?

"tedder" indicates a thing that "teds". So tedding.

"to Ted" is a well accepted verb in American usage, but a rarity since the death of Sen. Kennedy.

Posted by: Miklos, expert because they paid me at September 22, 2019 01:29 AM (QzkSJ)

516 We have two headlines here, one about a surprise bj from a male nurse, and the other about giant vats of exploding flaming bull spunk. Something something nevertrump.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 01:26 AM (LxTcq)

If the bull spunk was in test tubes, frozen in Dewars of liquid nitrogen, those test tubes would become icy shrapnel if the Dewars exploded in a fire.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:29 AM (jEgzt)

517 Once you got full, you'd unload it by just backing up into the barn or wherever, and it would unload and stack it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:22 AM



...and use a conveyor to stack it even higher!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:30 AM (7WaWV)

518 those test tubes would become icy shrapnel if the Dewars exploded in a fire.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I admit defeat.

Posted by: ICD-10 at September 22, 2019 01:33 AM (QzkSJ)

519
She might have heard a cat. When I was up on the rood yesterday, the neighbor lady hollered up to ask me if I had seen her cat, a little gray tabby. I did see a little gray tabby, very friendly, 2 weeks ago when I arrived, have not seen it since. But it could be hiding under the trailer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

======

There you go. Critter.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 22, 2019 01:34 AM (13CQC)

520 I don't know, Tom, all indicators are that the show's about to begin. Our American culture could come back. It's still loved by millions.

and that thing you said about you being able to do anything as long as your clever enough to get away?

integrity doesn't play that way, as you know

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 01:34 AM (xIKXj)

521
I returned home from work and lo and behold, my dried habanero flakes arrived in the mail today.

Tomorrow I get to whip up some spicy Bloody Mary mix!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2019 01:35 AM (pyXW1)

522 I saw Repo Man (1984).

1. I miss Harry Dean Stanton.
2. Someone did a lot of cocaine to write that script.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 01:35 AM (ykYG2)

523
They sometimes wrap the bales in plastic, as well as some "fiber" looking stuff, breathable plastic mesh of some kind. It's an attachment on the round balers -- takes a roll of the stuff and wraps it during the tying phase.

Now, back in the '90s, Bob Jones University ran a dairy farm a couple of miles from here as part of their ag dept. We did business with them.

Anyway, they got rid of it, sold it, and it's all houses now. :Sigh:

Anyway, one year they stacked up a bunch of round bales in a spot near some barns and sheds. They covered it with plastic tarps.

The stuff heated and started a massive inferno that burned down the barn and a couple of other sheds.

One spectacular event it caused was a transformer explosion. Feeding that barn, they had a two-unit high-leg delta bank, mounted on a pole right over where the bale inferno was.

The bank was enveloped in flames and exploded. It caused a full three-phase fault on the distribution line, that knocked out everyone in the whole area and back up the line a good ways.

IIRC, it tripped at the substation feeding, which noticed that massive and unusual three-phase fault. It said, whoah Nelly, this is a big one.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:36 AM (f1Vqw)

524 522 I saw Repo Man (1984).

1. I miss Harry Dean Stanton.
2. Someone did a lot of cocaine to write that script.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 01:35 AM (ykYG2)

---

It was the 80s, after all.

Cocaine flowed like the Mississippi.

I miss him too.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:37 AM (RU4sa)

525 That's rather awful. As an aside, economic recovery
or no, great numbers of young men aren't being given much to live for
these days anyway.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 12:49 AM (NWiLs)

---
a lot of us old farts aren't any better off.

hell, i stay alive just to piss off the people that hate me.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 01:38 AM (woiyT)

526 Now, here is a haystack for you:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2rankf4

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:38 AM (jEgzt)

527 lol red.

Good a reason as any.

But I think you'd be surprised how few in number that hate you actually is.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:39 AM (RU4sa)

528 When I worked the dairy farms, silos were still a thing...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:39 AM (7WaWV)

529 They still are.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:40 AM (RU4sa)

530 Wash St. decided to take a little nap in the 2nd half and UCLA scored 3 TDs in 5 minutes. Wash St has since scored again but it's now 56-46 Cougars. Crazy game. 10min left in the 4th.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 01:40 AM (HCqAo)

531 It said, whoah Nelly, this is a big one.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion

Bob Jones coulda healed that, if you'd just asked.

Even among fervent Evangelicals, laying on of hands for transformers is discouraged for all but the Most Enlightened. Sounds like an Earnest Angley job.

Posted by: Miklos, feeling healed at September 22, 2019 01:40 AM (QzkSJ)

532 goodnight!

Posted by: booknlass at September 22, 2019 01:40 AM (xIKXj)

533 Niters, booknlass.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:41 AM (RU4sa)

534 oh noooo Aron Eisenberg died today

Nog "the idiot" brother of Quark from DS9

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 01:42 AM (ykYG2)

535 When I worked the dairy farms, silos were still a thing...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto

Grain dust in silos explodes on occasion. We need common sense silo control.

Posted by: Miklos, mainly 'maters around here at September 22, 2019 01:42 AM (QzkSJ)

536 Most of the farms I pass these days, southern Newyorkistan, northern Pennsyltucky, the silos are gone, or fallen in disrepair... The cow food is stored on the ground in plastic...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:44 AM (7WaWV)

537
That reminds me. I want to find a good tape of Bob Jones, Sr. preaching for Miley. I want her to head what good' ol' Southern fire and brimstone preaching sounds like.

Bob Jones used to train these "preacher boys" they were called. This was well before my day, maybe back in the '50s.

They were firmly trained in the "You're goin' to hell, sinner!" style of evangelizing. Not too effective. Anyway, an uncle of mine stopped and picked one of them up who needed a ride in Greenville one time back in the '50s. Out of the goodness of his heart.

The guy climbed in, and immediately started in on what a sinner my uncle was, and he was goin' to hell if he didn't shape up.

My uncle just stopped, and told him to get the hell out, and he'll never try to be nice to any of you morons again.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 01:45 AM (f1Vqw)

538 Grain dust in silos explodes on occasion. We need common sense silo control.

Posted by: Miklos, mainly 'maters around here at September 22, 2019 01:42 AM



Gas and fumes were the worst hazard, boss made us work in pairs when we were up there and made sure we'd opened the vents...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:46 AM (7WaWV)

539 Correction: Nog was the son of Rom, Quark's brother.

I should re-watch that scene where Nog (first Ferengi in Starfleet) quells a mob of Klingons in Quark's bar.

RIP Aron.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 01:46 AM (ykYG2)

540 My uncle just stopped, and told him to get the hell out, and he'll never try to be nice to any of you morons again.
Posted by: publius

Also Sprach ol' Uncle Zarathustra (or John, Or Bubba, whatever his fishing buddies called him)

Posted by: Miklos, mainly 'maters around here at September 22, 2019 01:47 AM (QzkSJ)

541 He was only 50.

Sad.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:48 AM (RU4sa)

542 Most of the farms I pass these days, southern Newyorkistan, northern Pennsyltucky, the silos are gone, or fallen in disrepair... The cow food is stored on the ground in plastic...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:44 AM (7WaWV)

I wonder what would happen if you fed Beyond Meat burgers to cattle? Would they go to Cow Hell for implied cannibalism?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:49 AM (jEgzt)

543 Nog "the idiot" brother of Quark from DS9

Oy. Nerdvana ...

Nog was Quark's nephew...

May Aron's family find Strength and be Comforted.

Posted by: Adriane the Mail Order Writing Course Critic ... at September 22, 2019 01:50 AM (LPnfS)

544 Gas and fumes were the worst hazard, boss made us work in pairs when we were up there and made sure we'd opened the vents...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia

Glad you lived to tell the story. But try telling that to multi-gendered urbanite smartfone kids these days.....

Posted by: Miklos, lawn to be vacated with immediate effect at September 22, 2019 01:51 AM (QzkSJ)

545 I wonder what would happen if you fed Beyond Meat burgers to cattle? Would they go to Cow Hell for implied cannibalism?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:49 AM (jEgzt)

Or maybe just Burgatory?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 01:52 AM (jEgzt)

546
You have never written sales copy for agro machine makers, have you?

"tedder" indicates a thing that "teds". So tedding.

"to Ted" is a well accepted verb in American usage, but
Posted by: Miklos
--------

Their improper usage is 'Tedder' as a verb, i.e., "You can tedder your field."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 01:53 AM (CDGwz)

547 I wonder what would happen if you fed Beyond Meat burgers to cattle? Would they go to Cow Hell for implied cannibalism?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

They might turn up their noses at it, and cow flatulate in Beyond Meat's general direction.

Posted by: Miklos, with outrageous French accent at September 22, 2019 01:54 AM (QzkSJ)

548 UCLA has scored 6 straight times in the 2nd half. They now have the lead. They were down 32 points in the 3rd Qt. They now have a 60-56 lead.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 01:55 AM (HCqAo)

549 Grain dust in silos explodes on occasion. We need common sense silo control.

Posted by: Miklos
-----

Fires in grain elevators were occasional events when I lived out in the midwest.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 01:55 AM (CDGwz)

550 When we were up in the top of the silo, fixing the unloader, or whatever, I think the boss was only yelling at us to make sure we hadn't passed out and died...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 01:55 AM (7WaWV)

551 Their improper usage is 'Tedder' as a verb, i.e., "You can tedder your field."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 01:53 AM (CDGwz)

Love me tedder, love me true...

Posted by: zombie Elvis at September 22, 2019 01:56 AM (jEgzt)

552 Their improper usage is 'Tedder' as a verb, i.e., "You can tedder your field."

Posted by: Mike Hammer

The Kennedy family lawyer, when the next Kennedy does as they do:

"Well, you really pulled a Tedder"

Posted by: Miklos, taking all bets on this one at September 22, 2019 01:56 AM (QzkSJ)

553 Love me tedder, love me true...
Posted by: zombie Elvis
------

Ah, those were the days.

Heartbake Hotel.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 01:58 AM (xSo9G)

554 Wash States QB has thrown 9 TD's tonight and they still might lose. Though they just scored again and its 63-60, Cougars.

By the time I get typing this, I expect UCLA to score a TD.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 02:00 AM (HCqAo)

555 Love me tedder, love me true...
Posted by: zombie Elvis
------

It's now or tedder....

Posted by: other zombie Elvis at September 22, 2019 02:00 AM (QzkSJ)

556 All Stook Up

Posted by: zombie Elvis at September 22, 2019 02:00 AM (jEgzt)

557 oh noooo Aron Eisenberg died today




Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 01:42 AM (ykYG2)


Damn. RIP Nog.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 02:01 AM (9Om/r)

558 Tedder is the night?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Fitzgerald at September 22, 2019 02:02 AM (7WaWV)

559 You people and this rum are keeping me so busy I can't even tell if Coast-to-Coast is interesting this great good morning.

Posted by: other zombie Miklos at September 22, 2019 02:02 AM (QzkSJ)

560
I had a flat tar on my truck yesterday. Left front was flat as a flitter when I went out.

I thought oh hell, it's a nail or something I ran over. Turned out to be the damn valve stem. The little doohickey seemed to be bent and it wouldn't let the thing seat easily.

I had pumped up the tires the day before, and that's what set it off. I noticed it when I was pumping it back to see if it would stay up long enough for me to get it back to the shop.

I have seen that before, but it's a rare thing for the valve stem to screw up like that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:02 AM (f1Vqw)

561 Well, I am getting real sleepy now. Time to hit the sack. Later, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 02:03 AM (jEgzt)

562 May Aron's family find Strength and be Comforted.

Posted by: Adriane the Mail Order Writing Course Critic ... at September 22, 2019 01:50 AM (LPnfS)


Those who believe in Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #10- Greed is eternal, shall live forever.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 02:04 AM (9Om/r)

563 Tedder is the night?
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Fitzgerald

*dips lance (no homo)*

Winner here, kids

Posted by: Miklos, mainly honest mostly at September 22, 2019 02:04 AM (QzkSJ)

564 I have seen that before, but it's a rare thing for the valve stem to screw up like that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:02 AM (f1Vqw)

Tube or tubeless? I have seen the rubber tubeless stems fail pretty often. You can get glue-on replacement valve stems for inner tubes. I have used them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 02:05 AM (jEgzt)

565 I have seen that before, but it's a rare thing for the valve stem to screw up like that.
Posted by: publius

My mother's car had a consistently flat tire. The Electronic Crap-o-Matic tells you that, but I could see it.

Problem? The internal tire pressure sensor was leaking. It's a beauty, I'll admit-the Super Technology Thing that tells you you have low tire pressure was losing the tire pressure.

Posted by: The Miklos of Internet Things at September 22, 2019 02:09 AM (QzkSJ)

566 Noah!

Yes?

How long can you tedder water?

Posted by: Ark Builders, Local 602 ... at September 22, 2019 02:10 AM (LPnfS)

567
It's tubeless. I replaced the stem itself from some new ones I have on hand and it's fine.

It's so tiny, I couldn't see to well, but the inner stem that pushes in was slightly bent and it wouldn't allow the thing to seat properly. You could get it to seal, but you had to push it and out several times until it would "catch".



Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:10 AM (f1Vqw)

568 TPMS -- tyre pressure monitoring system...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Fitzgerald at September 22, 2019 02:10 AM (7WaWV)

569 /sockoff

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Fitzgerald at September 22, 2019 02:11 AM (7WaWV)

570 /sockoff for realz this time...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 02:12 AM (7WaWV)

571
The '08 Crown Vic has those stupid pressure sensors. One of them is out now, and constantly trips this "Tire sensor fault" warning requiring reset button on the dash thingy.

Now, I think those thing are little wireless unit that is mounted inside on the rim and doesn't have a fitting or anything.

When working properly, to get it to reset once it trips, you have to exceed a certain speed, 30MPH or so, which means it's centrifugal reset somehow.

I don't know how it works, if it's battery powered or what.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:13 AM (f1Vqw)

572 /sockoff

Aren't you the guy who was supposed to get elected to Congress in Georgia and Destroy Trump?

Posted by: The Miklos of last years' elections at September 22, 2019 02:14 AM (QzkSJ)

573 The lovely and long-suffering Mrs RnB's clown car has a separate TPMS readout for each wheel!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at September 22, 2019 02:16 AM (7WaWV)

574 I wss too late for the movie thread so here goes

was watching an oldish French movie Brotherhood of Wolves (2001) - it's about the Beast of Gauvedon

odd... gothic but not supernatural

the guy who was the funny kung fu bad guy in John Wick 3 was in it
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:21 PM (G546f)


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Excellent movie.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 22, 2019 02:19 AM (QD9b6)

575
I looked it up. The sensor is mounted on the valve stem. And it's some wireless communication protocol.

$50, looks like. Fuck that. Next time I put tires on it, or have to take it off the rim, I'll just put a regular valve stem in. Unless it somehow requires the sensor and without it, it will constantly complain. Then I'll be mad.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:20 AM (NMAzL)

576 Fumble by the Cougars and UCLA has the ball back. 5 turnovers by WashSt tonight. 2:20 to go in the 4th. 63-60, WSU. At the moment. UCLA will probably score here.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 02:21 AM (HCqAo)

577 Unless it somehow requires the sensor and without it, it will constantly complain. Then I'll be mad.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:20 AM (NMAzL)

Yeah, I'm thinking stash the guns away for awhile. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 02:22 AM (9Om/r)

578 Bruins score a TD with 1:07 left. It's 67-63, Bruins. This game is nuts.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 02:23 AM (HCqAo)

579 Yeah, I'm thinking stash the guns away for awhile. lol
Posted by: Berserker
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Yeah, that there is a red flag, fer sure.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 02:24 AM (CDGwz)

580
I hate this world. Turns out the tire pressure sensors are a fucking federal mandate. And yes, it will complain without it.

And yes the things are battery powered. Little Li button cell molded in the thing and not replaceable. Life is proportional to how many transmission it makes. The car computer polls the sensors ever so often.

Garbage.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:25 AM (f1Vqw)

581 Fumble by WSU, UCLA recovers. Bruins win (well a minute left). 6 turnovers by the Cougars. They earned this loss.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 02:26 AM (HCqAo)

582 Just saw this insane ad on comedy central:

https://youtu.be/b5ykNZl9mTQ

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 02:26 AM (5aX2M)

583 Fuck that. Next time I put tires on it, or have to take it off the rim, I'll just put a regular valve stem in. Unless it somehow requires the sensor and without it, it will constantly complain. Then I'll be mad.
Posted by: publius

TO DISCONNECT THE "BLACK BOX" IST STRENG VERBOTEN

Posted by: Miklos, Stasi archivist at September 22, 2019 02:26 AM (QzkSJ)

584 Ah. A potential product. Something that spoofs the TPMS receiver.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 02:30 AM (CDGwz)

585 ucla scored 50 points in 18 minutes.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 02:30 AM (Pg+x7)

586 ... 18:48.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 22, 2019 02:31 AM (Pg+x7)

587
I suppose there was some $100M study that showed 50% of idiots couldn't tell if their tires were slack, or if they could, didn't know how to pump them up or something. So, put tire pressure sensors in to inform said millennial morons their tars needed arr in 'em.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:31 AM (f1Vqw)

588 ucla scored 50 points in 18 minutes.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp

I'm a Dookie by inheritance.

Pray as you feel appropriate.

Posted by: Miklos, Friend of all Noble ACC Peoples at September 22, 2019 02:33 AM (QzkSJ)

589 I note that there are Indirect systems, which use wheel rotation differentials to detect low pressure. No sensors, per se, just the usual ABS stuff.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 02:34 AM (CDGwz)

590 I wonder if there are TPMS reports

Posted by: Bill Lumburgh at September 22, 2019 02:35 AM (flINI)

591 publius,

I met a cute girl once in Myrtle Beach. I was putting air in my tires, and she asked if I could help, she thought her tires need air too, but she was afraid the tires would blow up.

----

The State Dance in SC is the "Shag", but you probably know this.

Posted by: Miklos, completely unrelated at September 22, 2019 02:37 AM (QzkSJ)

592 I wonder if there are TPMS reports
Posted by: Bill Lumburgh

Bob from NSA has been quiet.

Too quiet.

Posted by: Miklos, not paranoid and STOP LOOKING AT ME at September 22, 2019 02:39 AM (QzkSJ)

593
Gotta love Trump. Warms my bartender heart.

https://tinyurl.com/y3ovmm2t

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2019 02:39 AM (pyXW1)

594 Say... anybody around here have a flat tire lately?

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at September 22, 2019 02:41 AM (5aX2M)

595
Yes. I told Miley about the Shag. Unfortunately, I can't dance.

Actually, I think that Shagging is more Downstate than up here. But I come from a long line of Baptists, where dancin' was verboten.

There are some records from the church where I grew up where they threw some guy out for dancin' and fiddle playin'. Late 1800s, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:43 AM (f1Vqw)

596 Say... anybody around here have a flat tire lately?
Posted by: Bob from the NSA

Interesting.....

Posted by: The REAL Bob from NSA at September 22, 2019 02:43 AM (QzkSJ)

597 >> which use wheel rotation differentials to detect low pressure.

But what if all yo' tars go flat at once?

Actually that's sort of the normal mode I've noticed for slow air loss in my tires. They all seem to leak down roughly equally.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:45 AM (f1Vqw)

598 But I think you'd be surprised how few in number that hate you actually is.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2019 01:39 AM (RU4sa)

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naw, i wouldn't be.

they're pretty blunt about it here in #Failifornia. i get racial shit thrown at me from even the smallest traffic issue these days.

and that's not even the people i know personally who hate me.

F them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 02:46 AM (woiyT)

599 I told Miley about the Shag. Unfortunately, I can't dance.


I have the impression that Miley van be instructive, persuasive, and insistent.

Try this, or anything by Norman Johnson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzIAiyxS-nk

Posted by: The REAL Miklos from Sacalina at September 22, 2019 02:47 AM (QzkSJ)

600 ..."Actually, I think that Shagging is more Downstate than up here. But I come from a long line of Baptists, where dancin' was verboten."

*cough*

Always ask, Don't tell.

P.S: Stop watching porn because I surely don't.

Posted by: Lying Baptist at September 22, 2019 02:49 AM (Ckg4U)

601
How does that old joke go. Jews don't recognize Christ as the Messiah, Catholics don't recognize something, and Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:50 AM (f1Vqw)

602 i live with a UCLA fan, and she agrees the zebras stole this game.

the NCAA is now officially as bad as the NFL.

might as well get rid of the TV.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 02:51 AM (woiyT)

603 and that's not even the people i know personally who hate me.

F them.
Posted by: redc1c4

Sell.

Move.

Texas is fine, but nothing could be finer than to be in Carolina in the morning.

This is known.

Posted by: Miklos, not real state agent at September 22, 2019 02:52 AM (QzkSJ)

604 >> nd she asked if I could help, she thought her tires need air too, but she was afraid the tires would blow up.

I hope you helped instruct her on the fine art of blowing into stems.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 02:55 AM (f1Vqw)

605 Texas is fine, but nothing could be finer than to be in Carolina in the morning.

This is known.
Posted by: Miklos, not real state agent at September 22, 2019 02:52 AM (QzkSJ)


We have everything in Arizona ... says so in the postal code!

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 02:56 AM (LPnfS)

606 We have everything in Arizona ... says so in the postal code!
Posted by: Adriane

AOP says you can get a trailer home in AZ for next to nothing.

This also sounds ok for me, during the mosquito months here.

Posted by: Miklos, all options on the table at September 22, 2019 02:59 AM (QzkSJ)

607 I hope you helped instruct her on the fine art of blowing into stems.
Posted by: publius

The ladies can teach a few things, amigo. I was young and an eager student.

Posted by: Miklos, so much to learn at September 22, 2019 03:01 AM (QzkSJ)

608 Now is the time on MikloSprockets when we dance.

You may pet the monkey, but I inform, is not my monkey.

Certain permissions and/or waivers of liability may be required.

Posted by: Miklos, a lover, not a litigator at September 22, 2019 03:09 AM (QzkSJ)

609 Is again the Hour of Miklos.


Much is asked, of those to whom much is given.

Posted by: Miklos, trying to sell his moinority interest in the unprofitable comment sector at September 22, 2019 03:14 AM (QzkSJ)

610 To quote, and possibly paraphrase Samuel Clemens, known to the general public as "Mark Twain":

"One Miklos commenter can make comments where two won't"

Posted by: Samuel Langhorne Miklos at September 22, 2019 03:17 AM (QzkSJ)

611

Well well, Miley Cyrus (not my Miley, of course) has split up with her girlfriend. The lesbo romance is over. Color me shocked. Nothing is real anymore, it seems.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 03:18 AM (f1Vqw)

612 Much is asked, of those to whom much is given.

True, true ... but the answer is usually, "Get your own!!!"

Posted by: Adriane the Here Comes the Sun, dutendutu Critic ... at September 22, 2019 03:18 AM (LPnfS)

613 Ok- this is cool.

Some Hungarian Jewish physicist friends just told me that there is an atom bomb in the garage, almost ready.

BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER

Posted by: Miklos von Neumann-Szilard at September 22, 2019 03:21 AM (QzkSJ)

614
Now, what to make of this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7490693

"MI-6 fears Russia has dirt on Randy Andy and Epstein's sex slaves."

Now, get this, in there, there's some former Marine and Palm Beach County deputy who *defected to Russia*. The dude was posting personal info claiming child molestation by his former colleagues in the Sheriff's dept. The FBI started to go after him, and he fled to Russia.

MI-6 thinks he gave the Rooskies info on Prince Andrew's shenanigans with Epstein.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 03:24 AM (f1Vqw)

615 Well well, Miley Cyrus (not my Miley, of course) has split up with her girlfriend. The lesbo romance is over. Color me shocked. Nothing is real anymore, it seems.
Posted by: publius,

Didn't her father have that one song once? Just one?

Apparently the daughter exposes herself in ways that I would never do. Ok, that one time in the French Quarter. But still.

Posted by: Miklos von Limited Recollection at September 22, 2019 03:25 AM (QzkSJ)

616
Miley Cyrus' problem is public licking, it seems. The final straw with her husband was licking his face in public, or so the Daily Mail claimed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 03:27 AM (f1Vqw)

617 "MI-6 fears Russia has dirt on Randy Andy and Epstein's sex slaves."


"It ain't dirt if you're already dirty"

Posted by: Miklos, quoting the lawyer for a certain ex-Guvna at September 22, 2019 03:27 AM (QzkSJ)

618 Burma Shave!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 03:28 AM (woiyT)

619 Burma Shave!
Posted by: redc1c4

This is not according to the accepted Burma Shave formatical canon.

Posted by: Miklos, untenured at September 22, 2019 03:30 AM (QzkSJ)

620
If that's true, then it means the Palm Beach Sheriff's dept uncovered evidence of Prince Andrew's involvement, but kept it quiet. MI-6 thinks this former deputy had that evidence and gave it to the Russians.

I can believe that, actually.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 03:30 AM (f1Vqw)

621 If that's true, then it means the Palm Beach Sheriff's dept uncovered evidence of Prince Andrew's involvement, but kept it quiet. MI-6 thinks this former deputy had that evidence and gave it to the Russians.

I can believe that, actually.
Posted by: publius

And? This paparazzi/ tabloid stuff. Which is worth money, but not power or influence.

Posted by: Miklos, I can tell you what the Brit tabloids pay, and can be a lot at September 22, 2019 03:34 AM (QzkSJ)

622 *now back to dancing, and who dis monkey is*

Posted by: Late Nite with Your Modest Magyar Host, tancolni SZABAD! at September 22, 2019 03:42 AM (QzkSJ)

623 Ugy volt, ha igazan mondom...soha nem tortent nekem ilyen.....

Posted by: Miklos, composing a letter to Hungarian Penthouse Forum at September 22, 2019 03:44 AM (QzkSJ)

624 I'm not sure what a sixpence is worth these days. Moon, OK. It's the sixpence part I'm not sure about. Rosie?

Posted by: Miklos "Somerset" Maugham, what an absurd name at September 22, 2019 03:47 AM (QzkSJ)

625
Was there ever a Czech edition of Penthouse? If so, I think that would definitely be a collector's item of keen interest.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 03:48 AM (f1Vqw)

626 Arma Miklosque canō, Pannoniae quī prīmus ab ōrīs
Americam, fātō profugus, Lāvīniaque vēnit
lītora Caroliniensis, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō
vī superum saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram;
multa quoque et bellō passūs, dum conderet urbem, 5
inferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum,
Albānīque patrēs, atque altae moenia Rōmae.

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at September 22, 2019 03:52 AM (QzkSJ)

627 Was there ever a Czech edition of Penthouse? If so, I think that would definitely be a collector's item of keen interest.
Posted by: publius

There was a Czech and also Hungarian version, under another name. Logical, as that is where a lot of the photo fodder came from.

Posted by: Miklos Experienced Publishing Expert (it's right there on the resume. or CV in Eurospeak at September 22, 2019 03:56 AM (QzkSJ)

628
Dems are considering "taking the first steps" to hold Lewandowski in contempt of Congress, I see. ROFL.

And with that, I'm out for the night. To check out the Czech Penthouse. For historical research purposes only, of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 22, 2019 04:02 AM (f1Vqw)

629 We apologize for the interruption.

We are pleased to now perform "Accordion Wonderland" with tasteful dance steps by a-Sissy and a-Bobby.

And and a one-a and a two-a

Posted by: Lawrence Welk, as creatively interpreted at September 22, 2019 04:03 AM (QzkSJ)

630 Impossible Burger is so Soylent Green come true!

Posted by: AnnaS at September 22, 2019 04:07 AM (ezY08)

631 I have a gripe with my high school guidance counselor.

When I was 16, she never told me about the Swedish retard part.

Damn

You get to travel on yachts and stuff

Posted by: Miklos, identifying as retard foreigner at September 22, 2019 04:08 AM (QzkSJ)

632 Impossible Burger is so Soylent Green come true!
Posted by: AnnaS

We have seen the future and it works!

Don't taste too good though.

Posted by: Miklos, Vanguard of the Proletariat at September 22, 2019 04:10 AM (QzkSJ)

633 anyone else ever notice how much Miklos sounds like Uncle Palp?

just sayin'....

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 22, 2019 04:11 AM (VXS7N)

634 seems prolific lately.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 04:16 AM (BLFnH)

635 Never heard of 'em.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at September 22, 2019 04:17 AM (Ckg4U)

636 anyone else ever notice how much Miklos sounds like Uncle Palp?

just sayin'....
Posted by: redc1c4

I am a mere ally, and Friend of All Noble Jewbilly Peoples.

History so indicates.

Posted by: Miklos, not an uncle at September 22, 2019 04:17 AM (QzkSJ)

637 Now.

As you were (Parade Rest)

Posted by: Miklos, Fort Jackson is called "fort" for a reason at September 22, 2019 04:23 AM (QzkSJ)

638 I'm bored. Entertain me.
Posted by: Insomniac


http://anodtothegods.com/

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 04:29 AM (arJlL)

639 I would like to bring to the attention of my esteemed colleagues, partners and stakeholders of various and undefined relevance and competence (and PLEASE no more of this "competency" Anglicized crap, it's COMPETENCE in American English) that I am being paid to waste my time. Not yours, that is not my concern. For reasons based on Best Practice, we are required to waste each others' time.

Come by the house, there will be Halloween candy. If I get a budget-hear that Sharon? IF I GET A BUDGET

Posted by: Miklos, managing a project at September 22, 2019 04:30 AM (QzkSJ)

640 Holy crap, it's early. Good thing there's Lavazza and a Bialeti on the stove.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 04:31 AM (fZrf5)

641 93 73 mnw: i was going to mention sometime today that the powerline "this week in pictures" is particularly funny this week.

i was actually loling.

recommended.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 10:34 PM (Pg+x7)

seconded

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 04:33 AM (o7z4a)

642 Good thing there's Lavazza and a Bialeti on the stove.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

>>>>THIS GUY GETS IT<<<<

Posted by: Miklos, coffee after the current adult beverage at September 22, 2019 04:35 AM (QzkSJ)

643 638>> Nice!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 04:37 AM (fZrf5)

644 643 638>> Nice!

A good cuppa Joe, so to speak.

Posted by: Miklos, birds are singing, which means they are in charge now at September 22, 2019 04:41 AM (QzkSJ)

645 Being Sunday, I hope Skip has time for a proper breakfast.

Posted by: Miklos, probably hash browns and eggs at September 22, 2019 04:44 AM (QzkSJ)

646
A nice picture, but summer is over, over there.


https://csopak.hu/hu/content/strand-webkamera

Posted by: Miklos, it's a lake, but they call it a beach at September 22, 2019 04:47 AM (QzkSJ)

647 645: F1 is in Singapore and coverage starts at 0800. He'll make time.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2019 04:48 AM (HCqAo)

648 Heh!

I wouldn't do anything for a Klondike bar, but I'd do some pretty sketchy shit for some whiskey and bacon.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 04:49 AM (fZrf5)

649 i can't wait for fake fish. that should really kick maximum ass.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 10:22 PM (KP5rU)

It's made from tranny pussy!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Hey !

This fish only has one eye !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 04:50 AM (arJlL)

650 Heh!

I wouldn't do anything for a Klondike bar, but I'd do some pretty sketchy shit for some whiskey and bacon.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Let he who...Oh hell, it's bacon and whisky!

Posted by: Foster Brooks-Molnar at September 22, 2019 04:51 AM (QzkSJ)

651 Well, it's too early to do laundry, mow the lawn or fire up the grill......

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 04:51 AM (fZrf5)

652 This fish only has one eye !
Posted by: JT

You pay now!!!

Posted by: Argumentative Asian Lady with bills to pay at September 22, 2019 04:53 AM (QzkSJ)

653 i can't wait for fake fish. that should really kick maximum ass.
Posted by: chavez the hugo

I remember, back in the old days of the mid 60's, of people saying how we were going to have to rely on fish more as the population grows.
Now they charge more for a pound of some fish you never heard of then they do for beef

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 04:56 AM (vd8XM)

654 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Well, aren't you hoity toity. I had eggs portugal and a beer.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 04:57 AM (BLFnH)

655 Heh, Sean Spicier tweets regarding the Ukraine call;

"I'm sure it's something like POTUS promising the Ukrainian President a free upgrade after two consecutive nights at any Trump property"

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 05:00 AM (vd8XM)

656 Well, aren't you hoity toity. I had eggs portugal and a beer.

That sounds amazing! Too many carbs for me though; I'd have to shoot a double dose of insulin if I ate that breakfast. What beer?

I usually just make bacon or sausage and then fry the eggs in the fat that renders out. Accompanied by a quad shot of espresso from the Bialeti. Can't let the American Heart Association intimidate you.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 05:02 AM (fZrf5)

657 Heh. Just a bud. Woke up at 1 am. I feel a mid-morning nap coming on. Since I live alone, I should start some laundry. It's 3am already.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:04 AM (BLFnH)

658 Well, aren't you hoity toity. I had eggs portugal and a beer.
Posted by: Infidel

If you can afford Very Special European Eggs imported from Portugal, who's the hoity and who's the toity?

Posted by: Modest Miklos at September 22, 2019 05:05 AM (QzkSJ)

659 Since when did Kroger eggs come from Portugal?

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:09 AM (BLFnH)

660 657>> Actually, I love being up this time of the day. I can work without interruption and I get more done in 4-5 hours here at home than I can get done in a week at the office.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 05:11 AM (fZrf5)

661 Since when did Kroger eggs come from Portugal?
Posted by: Infidel

Outsourcing. Avoid the eggs from Bangalore.

Or the Chinese fake eggs. In China, they make and sell fake eggs.

Posted by: Miklos, cub reporter at September 22, 2019 05:12 AM (QzkSJ)

662 660 Truth!

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:13 AM (BLFnH)

663 Morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:17 AM (gzG43)

664 Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:13 AM (BLFnH)

I have convinced myself that I should just work from home and they should send me a check very week.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 05:17 AM (fZrf5)

665 I have convinced myself that I should just work from home and they should send me a check very week.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Again-

...THIS GUY GETS IT<<<

Posted by: Miklos, totally remote at September 22, 2019 05:18 AM (QzkSJ)

666 Shart
Cackle

Posted by: Shillary at September 22, 2019 05:23 AM (vd8XM)

667 Wouldn't that be nice. Hoping I can retire in less than 7 yrs.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:24 AM (BLFnH)

668 Skinny homes video is kinda neat. I've been looking at using cargo containers for building some one bedroom rentals on my property. Codes and Permits are going to be an issue since they are fairly non existent for that purpose.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at September 22, 2019 05:25 AM (DB16e)

669 @660. Heh. That's pretty much what I've been doing this year. On top of getting the pyrll checks been getting monthly interest check too. Of course, helps if you own the company.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:25 AM (gzG43)

670 Oops. My comment at 669 was in response to 664.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:27 AM (gzG43)

671 How's Mrs. olddog doing?

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:27 AM (BLFnH)

672 Not so hot yesterday, Infidel. She slept until 1p. Legs hurt most of day, then fever. Hopefully, today will be better.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 05:34 AM (gzG43)

673 Hoping I can retire in less than 7 yrs

I 'retired' with no plan a few years back, and then the Grumpy Grandma told me I had to go back to work. Honestly, if I didn't have something to do every day I'd go crazy. And I missed being around aviation, sorely.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 05:35 AM (fZrf5)

674 Been up more or less since 4am

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 05:36 AM (ZCEU2)

675 Been up more or less since 4am
Posted by: Skip

Wow were the fireworks ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 05:38 AM (arJlL)

676 Pretty good, they had a live band that played all afternoon the IdolKings from upstate, it's a Journey and Mellencamp cover band and did very good renditions of that.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 05:48 AM (ZCEU2)

677 Crotchety, we have an 'of counsel' atty at work. His wife doesn't want him home all day so he comes into the office.

Amazing mind. Worked as lead counsel for Exon Mobil for over a decade in Alaska back in the day. Knows all about real property, oil, gas and mineral leases. I've learned a lot from him. He is also the only other smoker in the office. He's a great guy.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:49 AM (BLFnH)

678 Wouldn't that be nice. Hoping I can retire in less than 7 yrs.
Posted by: Infide

Jeepers !

You're just a kid !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 05:53 AM (arJlL)

679 Don't feel like it most days.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:55 AM (BLFnH)

680 Mornin', all

Posted by: My life is insanity at September 22, 2019 05:55 AM (Z/jzm)

681 I'll never retire

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 05:57 AM (ZCEU2)

682 Mornin', all
Posted by: My life is insanity

Hiya !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 05:57 AM (arJlL)

683 Pretty good, they had a live band that played all afternoon the IdolKings from upstate, it's a Journey and Mellencamp cover band and did very good renditions of that.
Posted by: Skip

Sounds like a good time.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 05:58 AM (arJlL)

684 I'll never retire
Posted by: Skip

Oh Oh. Skip is RBG!!

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 05:58 AM (vd8XM)

685 Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 05:49 AM (BLFnH)

It's great that you have someone like that to work with. I have a similar situation in that I work with a guy who's probably forgotten more about engineering in general than I'll ever learn.

And in all fairness to the Queen of the Universe, it takes a lot of money to stock the humidor and play golf. And the clubs don't travel well on the scooter so I have to put gas in the car....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 05:58 AM (fZrf5)

686 Can't

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 06:00 AM (ZCEU2)

687 EMT is NOOD

Posted by: Bruce at September 22, 2019 06:02 AM (vd8XM)

688 Krak up !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 06:02 AM (arJlL)

689 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 22, 2019 05:58 AM (fZrf5)

Well, there is that. I could keep myself busy quilting and cooking and gardening. I like putzing. I could always take up new hobbies like learning to make my own ammo and more time at the range.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2019 06:03 AM (BLFnH)

690 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 06:07 AM (cqNba)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 09-21-2019 [Hosted By: MovieGique]


Freaks (2019)

A weird, intense man keeps his seven-year-old daughter locked away in their house while training her to act like a "normal" person because if she doesn't, bad guys will kill them both.

But enough about me.

freaks 01.jpg
I, too, got tired of my children complaining about the ghosts in the tiny, dark room I locked them in.


In this movie, Emile Hirsch (Killer Joe)—who is not a young, skinny Jack Black, don't be fooled—plays "Dad" to Chloe (Lexy Kolker) while nursing a seemingly paranoid fantasy about "bad men" who want to kill them. We immediately know not all is as it seems because Chloe is, indeed, a freak. In particular, she can see into remote locations—and be seen in those locations—though she's not aware she's doing it.

Chloe desperately wants a mom, since her own mother (Mary, Amanda Crew, "Silicon Valley") died when she was a baby. Dad has a plan to train her to be normal, then let her live with the family across the street neighbors, which is something Chloe desperately wants. So much so that she projects into her future foster sister's bedroom and makes her pretend to be her mother, cuddle her and tell her she loves her.

Dad, too, seems odd, since he insists he can only protect her if he doesn't fall asleep. And when he does fall asleep, things happen: The lights in the house go on, the water starts working, strange noises emerge from outside, etc.

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Bruce Dern appears in an ice cream truck. Scarier than anything in "IT".


I won't spoil it, because this movie works by imposing a number of layers on top of each other, each of which by itself is fairly ordinary, but which keep you engaged until the next layer is pulled back. It takes about 30 minutes to get a strong picture of what's going on, for example, with the mysterious ice cream man (Bruce Dern, aged hippie, and, oh, I dunno, From Up On Poppy Hill) who is aggressively trying to lure Chloe into his truck. But then you have the mystery of what the deal is with Dad. And is the (really hot) Federal Agent (Grace Park, who appears mostly on TV and in my better dreams) good or evil or somewhere in between, and more importantly: can she be trusted?

The thing that works about this movie is that it sets up its rules (which are admittedly rather broad, conceptually) and then lives by them. You learn X, and that explains certain phenomena that come before (and more importantly, in some ways, after). Then you learn Y, which explains some other stuff, and so on until you get a fairly good (if simple) picture of what the world is and how our characters play their roles in it.

And shock of shocks, for a movie which is about existential crises for all of humanity, it's rather non-judgmental. The second half of the movie, when it seems like it could veer into straight up action, reminds us that what we're viewing is actually pretty horrifying. There's a lot of murder going on—and it's all pretty understandable. Which is a kind of uncomfortable feeling. Obviously, we're biased one way by the mere orientation of the telling—but on the other hand, we (the audience) would be the very definite losers of any the scenarios that play out where we're rooting for one side over the other.

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This movie makes me feel conflicted about Grace Park. That's something I never want to feel


It's shockingly nuanced for a modern movie, much less a horror movie, and it does it without being political. I was worried because of this one line (naturally played in the trailer) where they talk about "making people illegal"—a red flag, stay-away sign for anyone not wanting to be bludgeoned with some heavy-handed pro-illegal-alien message. But in the movie, there's: a) no connection made (or even reasonably plausible) to our modern immigration crises; b) no real judgment as to whether or not "making people illegal" is good or bad. And not just immigration, the movie skillfully avoids any real sociopolitical commentary on homeschooling, racism or any of the other low-hanging fruit lazy writers go to these days.

The later half gets a little action-y, as mentioned, but there's still a fair amount of horror, or at least horrific moments. The ending, involving a hellfire missile, edges into goofy, but in a sort of expected cinematic way, kind of like Ready Or Not's somewhat bombastic denouement. It didn't bug me much. It's still technically summer, after all. Also, that last section is a good, suspenseful build-up with a little cat-and-mouse between the (hot) federal agent and dad, as the latter stalls for time and the former is smart enough to put the pieces together

Besides being hot, federal agent woman is kind of a complex character. She comes off as a bleeding heart at times early on (when she's on TV) but then she's as tough and no-nonsense as her character would really have to be. Top notch acting, which is true of all the principals. Emile Hirsch's torment bubbles under the surface but ends up explaining a lot of his nigh-hysteria, as he literally lives an existence no one else is for nearly seven years. (This makes perfect sense in context.) Amanda Crew has limited screen time but she makes the most of it, being both sympathetic on the one hand, and a little scary on the other (much like Dad). Why, Bruce Dern nearly convinces me he's not thoroughly evil. (I kid the Dern, he's quite good here, though I think his nose hairs should get 10% of his fee.)

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If you look closely, you can see where Trump signed the wall. (I kid! It's not even a wall!)


Speaking of small amounts of screen-time they do a lot with, the across the street neighbors played by Ava Telek, Matty Finochio and especially Michelle Harrison do great work in their one main scene. And a special shout-out to the thuggish Alex Paunovic, who provides the climactic moments of the film with its weird mix of horror and comedy. Paunovic and (sidekick federal agent) Reese Alexander were in Dead Rising: Watchtower, an earlier attempt by writer/director team Zach Lipovsky and Adam B. Stein.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this movie is better (not having seen the former) but I don't think it will be very popular. Actually, I'm seeing now that it was only released into 111 theaters which means it probably won't have a chance to be very popular, which is—well, it's probably sensible from a business perspective. This story really inverts some common and very popular movie tropes, similar to Brightburn, which had much bigger names attached and got a much wider release and (I imagine) was a lot less challenging.

As I said early on: There's a whole lot of murder in this movie and you really end up understanding all of it. That makes a man uncomfortable. And most people don't like to be uncomfortable.

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I hate it when they pretend to be asleep so you have to carry them out of their burning room

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:57 PM




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1 st?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:58 PM (mitVr)

2 !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (arJlL)

3 Huh. Where is everyone?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (t2Lmw)

4 Nice, Weasel !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (arJlL)

5 Rookie mistake, or I'da been first.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (t2Lmw)

6 Huh. Where is everyone?
Posted by: Charles the Simple

They went to Area 51 to bail out James Monroe.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:01 PM (arJlL)

7 Grace Park is a lovely gal.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 08:01 PM (HCqAo)

8 4 Nice, Weasel !
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (arJlL)
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*curtsies*

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:02 PM (mitVr)

9 Come on, Horde, I'm waiting for hundreds of witty, snarky comments.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 21, 2019 08:03 PM (nvMvs)

10 Willowed, but I have allocated Guatemala Acatenango Geisha green beans for roasting #TxMoMe

None of that cut-rate Robusto or boring Arabica beans.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 08:04 PM (lD3vL)

11
It just occurred to me that the annoying and stupid Jack Black isn't in movies, anymore.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:05 PM (j7i25)

12 Yay movie thread!! Hey MovieGique!!

I've been wanting to share, although this may already be known to most of you:

I found out a few weeks ago, there's gonna be a sequel to The Shining, called Doctor Sleep.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)

13 College Football is distracting. Lots of good games today. Some upsets (GO PITT!!!). Texas/OK St should be a good one. America's National Treasure coaches tonight (Mike Leach)

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 08:06 PM (HCqAo)

14
I hate kids in movies, especially Spielberg kids -- they are extra annoying.
Is this a Spielburg movie?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (j7i25)

15 This is not Spielberg, and she's really good.

qdpsteve...Yeah, I knew about Doctor Sleep. I feel like it will be terrible but I'm not really the audience.

Posted by: moviegique at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (CcUfv)

16
Steven Spielberg, the man who killed Vic Morrow.

Fight me!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (j7i25)

17 Sooth: no.

I believe Spielberg is working on his remake of West Side Story (groan).

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (L2ZTs)

18 I hate when the rating on TV movie says there is nudity and you don't get nudity.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (mitVr)

19 College Football is distracting. Lots of good games today. Some upsets (GO PITT!!!). Texas/OK St should be a good one. America's National Treasure coaches tonight (Mike Leach)
Posted by: Puddleglum
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I'm a born and bred Tarheel, but Appalachian State dusting UNC today was most amusing.

Michigan is still nursing its wound.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (CDGwz)

20 Sooth, you're thinking of John Landis.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (L2ZTs)

21 I hate kids in movies, especially Spielberg kids -- they are extra annoying.
Is this a Spielburg movie?
Posted by: Soothsayer,

Aww, they didn't throw the eggs at yer house; that was ET.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:09 PM (arJlL)

22 moviegique, that's my fear too about Doctor Sleep.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)

23 Has anyone here seen Joker yet?
I admit I wanna see it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)

24 Another weird ass movie is Marwen. And the weirdest thing about it is it's based on a true story. There really is a weird ass artist who was beaten for wearing women's shoes and retreats into a fantasy world of WWII dolls which he photographs thus becoming a famous artist.

The movie has a great disclaimer. Paraphrasing, this is more-or-less a true story but we invented people and incidents out of thin air. I was thinking the NYT ought to run a similar disclaimer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 08:10 PM (+y/Ru)

25 Oops, Joker's not opening until 10/4.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:11 PM (L2ZTs)

26 Someone might've actually listened to King for the sequel. That's a terrible idea.

Worse, The Shining is a classic. Sequels to classics are dubious at best.

Posted by: moviegique at September 21, 2019 08:11 PM (CcUfv)

27 Never having heard of this one, I went to go read some net reviews to see what it was about. Interesting. A wide range of views, some loved it, some not so much.

And then there are always the completely idiotic reviews, like the reviewer who said this movie was awful because it was RAYCISS!!! because their were "people of color" who played characters she thought were bad guys.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:11 PM (V2Yro)

28 *curtsies*
Posted by: Weasel

Careful with that stuff.

The next thing ya know, "You know Who" will smooch ya.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (arJlL)

29 Anon, you mean Welcome To Marwen?

Yeah, it's Robert Zemeckis' latest flick. It got horrible reviews.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)

30 I'm hearing good sh*t about Ad Astra with whatshisname. Anyone seen it?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (tDzWD)

31 moviegique, exactly. And it doesn't help that Stephen King HATES Kubrick's version of The Shining.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:13 PM (L2ZTs)

32 I invested about 30 minutes in the Independence Day sequel the other night. I was going to stop after about 90 seconds but it was like watching a car wreck.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:13 PM (MVjcR)

33 28 *curtsies*
Posted by: Weasel

Careful with that stuff.

The next thing ya know, "You know Who" will smooch ya.
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (arJlL)
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Oh! Right!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (MVjcR)

34 So let me see if i fully understand this #TrumpUkraine "scandal"...

Hunter Biden, son of then Vice President "Gropey" Joe Biden, is appointed to the board of a company in the Ukraine working in an area where the young Mr. Biden has no obvious expertise.

The Ukrainian authorities launch an investigation into the appointment, sensing that it may not have entirely been on the up-and-up

The elder Mr. Biden then uses his influence - as Vice President of the United Fucking States - to get the Ukranian authorities, who are desperate for better relations with the west in general and the US in particular, to fire the prosecutor investigating the young Mr. Biden's appointment. Gropey then goes around bragging about precisely "using his influence" to get the prosecutor fired, on tape.

Much later, authorities in the Ukraine reopen the investigation into the younger Mr. Biden's appointment, but are finding their efforts are being "slowed" by "external influences".

But this is somehow a story about... Trump?

Yeah, bullshit.

Posted by: DocJ at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (dd+oa)

35
48 Hours was on tv today. That movie looks so old.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (j7i25)

36 Alas, the movie "Freaks" sounds good but I am adverse to anything by Hollyweird over the last few decades.

Also, why is there a federal agent, usually female, who is there to set it all right and kill everyone while looking hot instead of a 250 pound bull dyke like I see in every federal building I have ever visited.

And speaking of "Killer Joe", the Rocky Fellers rocked that song. Filipino family if I remember right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (Z+IKu)

37 Sorry for the attempted thread hijack, but I have no intention of going to the movies anytime soon. My kid will insist on being taken to see Frozen II (that's Frozen 2 for Sheila Jackson Lee (Dimwit-TX)) but not really looking at much between now and then.

Posted by: DocJ at September 21, 2019 08:15 PM (dd+oa)

38 The Quiet One (194, currently to be found on YouTube

A weepy polemic about neglected slum kids. The location shots of NYC slums are awesome! The depiction of dysfunctional black family life rings true: absent father, whore mother and live-in boyfriend going out to party while neglecting an infant, and grandma raising the kids. Some things never change.

The voiceover is by a doctor, who spouts lame sociological excuses for one boy's plight. To give just a single example, the grandma drops off the kid at the school. The boy watches until grandma is out of sight, then he ditches, and walks the slums. The doctor then complains that now the kid has "nothing to do," and is suffering social isolation as horrible as "solitary confinement."

Well, actually, the kid DOES have "something to do," which is to attend school, but he refuses. If he was sitting in the classroom where he belonged, he would no longer be in social isolation either. I came from a dysfunctional, broken, alcoholic family myself, but I never ditched school, and I didn't need an army of social workers to set me on a better path like this kid does. So much for sociology.

What you see in this "documentary" is the promotion of terribly wrong ideas, these among the many misconceptions that soon led to the government's creation of the tragic Culture of Dependency among America's underclass black people. This sappy sentimentality got the movie two Oscar nominations.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:15 PM (mk9aG)

39 One of you morons mentioned that "12 Angry Men" (the 1997 remake) was available on Amazon Prime thru the end of the month. Obviously haven't seen it in over 20 years so off I went this afternoon.

Amazon also has the original for $.99. I've seen that a whole lot, but not recently, so I am now down the rabbit hole, getting ready to watch the original and compare the two.

Already have some opinions which character portrayals are better, but need to revisit the original to be sure.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 08:16 PM (RfzVr)

40 48 Hours was on tv today. That movie looks so old.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (j7i25)

It certainly did not age well. It looked "old" by the latter half of the decade it was filmed in.

Posted by: DocJ at September 21, 2019 08:17 PM (dd+oa)

41 "not a thinner, young, Jack Black" heh

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2019 08:18 PM (5v5Zx)

42 On TCM this week I was able to rewatch my favorite Kurosawa film, "Rashoman". I have always greatly appreciated it's view on impossible it can be to ever know the "truth" about something that happened; the viewer is in the position of a Court, listening to 4 witnesses tell the tale of a murder, except all 4 disagree with each other, and it's left up to the viewer to choose what he wants to believe. It is very true to life, in fact - most hard court cases come down to that decision.

But this time, for the first time, I got a strong impression of what Kurosawa intended to be the *true* answer, or at least as close as he would get. There are several elements of the murder, and when you listen to the witnesses, on these elements usually 3 agree and one says something different, although this arrangement differs on each element.

BUT if you look at the elements on which 3 out of 4 agree, you can put together a believable narrative of how the murder played out, and what part they each played in it. In my mind, that's what I think Kurosawa intended.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:19 PM (V2Yro)

43 Bruce Dern, in a past era, would have competed with Jack Elam for parts.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 08:20 PM (lfmil)

44 Scudda hoo! Scudda hey!

Posted by: adobe nuan I walk like walter brennan kenobe at September 21, 2019 08:22 PM (BGZO0)

45 Bruce Dern, in a past era, would have competed with Jack Elam for parts.
Posted by: Laurenz

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You have an eye for great parallels!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 08:23 PM (Y4EXg)

46 so, this movies plays out sort of like a video game, in the sense that the more you play it the more you understand how to win the game?

like "edge of tomorrow"?

which i'm watching right now, and it's the perfect movie of a video game, because it plays out like playing a video game where each time you lose you tart over, understand the fixes and get to the next level, etc., etc.

(full disclosure: i just wanted to mention "edge of tomorrow" is like playing a video game.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (Pg+x7)

47 Hogmartin insiisted that I see this acid trip of a movie "Dr. Seuss's The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T", which sounds like a Frank Zappa album. Here is the infamous "Dungeon Song"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqy4xcXgtxM

FIRST FLOOR DUNGEON
Assorted simple tortures.
Molten lead, chopping blocks
And hot boiling oil.

SECOND FLOOR DUNGEON
Jewelry department.
Leg chains, ankle chains,
Neck chains, wrist chains, thumb screws
And nooses of the very finest rope.

BASEMENT DUNGEON--
EVERYBODY OUT.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (kQs4Y)

48 I still hate Bruce Dern because he killed John Wayne. Childhood vendettas will not be ignored !

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (2DOZq)

49 Anon, you mean Welcome To Marwen?

Yeah, it's Robert Zemeckis' latest flick. It got horrible reviews.

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Yes. Definitely weird.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 08:26 PM (+y/Ru)

50 45 Bruce Dern, in a past era, would have competed with Jack Elam for parts.
Posted by: Laurenz
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You have an eye for great parallels!
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 08:23 PM (Y4EXg)

And the movie they're in together "Support your local Sheriff" is hilarious, and both of them play great comic parts in it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:26 PM (V2Yro)

51
Warren Oates: The most under-appreciated actor ever?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:27 PM (j7i25)

52 Warren Oates: The most under-appreciated actor ever?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:27 PM (j7i25)

But he was good with Hall.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:28 PM (V2Yro)

53 Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (Pg+x7)

Heh , I was just explaining that to the twenty something gaming son of one of my friends about one of the first first person arcade game. Dragon's Lair . Anyone remember that game?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:29 PM (2DOZq)

54


Just got back from seeing the Downton Abbey movie (the wife wanted to go). There really wasn't much of a story except the king and queen were visiting. It was basically a Christmas special with homo stuff thrown it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 08:30 PM (WBgvd)

55 Dragon's lair, lol - yes, I remember!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:31 PM (V2Yro)

56 Thanks OM, for reviewing this movie so I won't have to see it. You scared me and I'm sitting here in my own den. Armed. With all the lights on.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 08:32 PM (UUkQp)

57 I still like to hear about the horde's opinion on underrated movies or guilty pleasure movies. That's always interesting and sometimes I get a suggestion on movies I've avoided.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:32 PM (2DOZq)

58 Never played dragons lair, never saw anybody play it either, but I do remember watching it's demo cut scenes

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 21, 2019 08:33 PM (WhTSP)

59
It was basically a Christmas special with homo stuff thrown it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan


All Christmas specials will from now on.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 08:33 PM (aKsyK)

60 Whichever of you morons suggested Dad's Army a couple of weeks back, well thanks for taking up all my watching time. Great show!

They don't like it up 'em, sir. - Lance Corporal Jones

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2019 08:34 PM (5v5Zx)

61 Dragon's lair, lol - yes, I remember!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2

At the time it seemed amazing. The graphics still hold up today in a cartoon level standard. What I remember the most it cost twice as much to play.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:34 PM (2DOZq)

62 Warren Oates: The most under-appreciated actor ever?


Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:27 PM (j7i25)

Sgt Big Toe!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2019 08:36 PM (5v5Zx)

63 huh. maybe there is an influence of video games on "freaks".

but no, i never played dragon's lair.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 08:37 PM (Pg+x7)

64 14 I hate kids in movies, especially Spielberg kids -- they are extra annoying.
Is this a Spielburg movie?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (j7i25)


Hear, hear. Even as a *kid*, I hated kids in movies. One yuuuuge exception is "Time Bandits" which I've always loved.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)

65 mwi.usma.edu/war books special edition seventeen great war films one army officers list
https://tinyurl.com/yxodbkxy
Cain Mutiny
Breaker Morant
Master and Commander
Black Hawk Down
FMJ

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 08:40 PM (ZCEU2)

66 Hear, hear. Even as a *kid*, I hated kids in movies. One yuuuuge exception is "Time Bandits" which I've always loved.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)

How can you not like The Cowboys?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:41 PM (2DOZq)

67
Dragon Slayer??

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (j7i25)

68 Recorded Throne of Blood last week and watched with a visiting Lil Blutarski today.

Saw Bill Murray's The Dead Don't Die. Meh. Steve Buscemi plays a jerk who wears a red hat that says "Make America White Again". And the dead rise because of fracking. One star.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (VNfwt)

69
Was that the one with Sean Connery as the cartoonish dragon?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (j7i25)

70
Reign Of Fire, anyone?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (j7i25)

71
we have thermal event

thatisall


Posted by: AltonJackson at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (hlleo)

72 Hear, hear. Even as a *kid*, I hated kids in movies. One yuuuuge exception is "Time Bandits" which I've always loved.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik

A Lil Blutarski hooked me up with his Criterian account and we watched Time Bandits just today.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:44 PM (VNfwt)

73 Saw Bill Murray's The Dead Don't Die. Meh. Steve Buscemi plays a jerk who wears a red hat that says "Make America White Again". And the dead rise because of fracking. One star.
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (VNfwt)
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Agree. Talk about bait and switch! I was jazzed when I saw the cast, but what a disappointment.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:44 PM (kQs4Y)

74 Posted by: AltonJackson at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (hlleo)
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Reign of Fire!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (kQs4Y)

75 My DVD movie recommendation this week is:

The Cooler


And another gambling movie that I think is underrated is The Gambler with Mark Wahlberg .

This is also a movie where I think the remake is better than the original ( James Caan)

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (2DOZq)

76 Original 13 Ghosts is on Svengoolie.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (VNfwt)

77 I agree mostly about kids in movies. I think of a couple of exceptions: Super 8 and Stranger Things (i know, not a movie). Someone mentioned Time Bandits. That kid was cool.

I loathed Goonies. Stil can't watch it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Paying Attention at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (0ZAYo)

78 Hear, hear. Even as a *kid*, I hated kids in movies. One yuuuuge exception is "Time Bandits" which I've always loved.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)

Yup....I liked "Time Bandits". Fun movie with so much in it and quite entertaining.

The old fart that played the Supreme Being was hilarious.

"Well, of course. I am the Supreme Being, I'm not entirely dim..."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (Z+IKu)

79 Dragon's Lair wasn't really a "video game" as most people think of them. It was a timed "Choose Your Own Adventure" book in videogame-cabinet form.

All the graphics and sounds were on a Laserdisc player inside the cabinet.

Play chapter 1. If the player hits "attack", play chapter 2. If the player hits "left" to dodge, play chapter 3. etc.

So, comparing it to games of today, it was a game consisting of nothing but cut scenes, with no actual "gameplay."

Posted by: mikeski at September 21, 2019 08:47 PM (P1f+c)

80 48 Hours was on tv today. That movie looks so old
**********
Eddie Murphy made "trim" a thing...for a few years anyway.

Posted by: Granddork at September 21, 2019 08:48 PM (kR3UB)

81 I'm going to be that guy. Went to the Mesa Gun Show today, and got to see and and handle a real FN Model 1900 pistol, in .32 ACP. It's a lot smaller than my Chinese mystery pistol, which is otherwise a faithful copy of that design, except that it is chambered for the 7.62 mm Mauser bottleneck pistol cartridge.

And then went to the Lochiel Brewery in East Mesa, and had some craft beer, and saw a pipe band perform. Cool!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 08:49 PM (jEgzt)

82 Worse, The Shining is a classic. Sequels to classics are dubious at best.

Dr. Sleep, the book, is a fairly decent follow-on to The Shining. But, as you note, with King's involvement, the odds of turddom are very high.

On that note, King has his hands on the tiller for the remake of The Stand and I guarantee it'll suck. He's already selected Whoopi Goldberg for the Mother Abigail role.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 08:50 PM (7s3Gx)

83 I think Time Bandits and Brazil have George Harrison in common. George Harrison, the smartest Beatle.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 08:50 PM (UUkQp)

84 But, as you note, with King's involvement, the odds of turddom are very high.

For the movie, that is...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 08:51 PM (7s3Gx)

85 "I hate kids in movies" Kramer vs Kramer has one of the best kid actor performances you'll ever see.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:51 PM (mk9aG)

86 And is the (really hot) Federal Agent (Grace Park, who appears mostly on TV and in my better dreams)

I know Grace Park from her role in the really good TV show "a million little things". Which is primarily about dealing with suicide, but also deals with a lot of other heavy issues as well. Park's character has to deal with her husband's infidelity.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2019 08:53 PM (Do5/p)

87 I hate kids in movies" Kramer vs Kramer has one of the best kid actor performances you'll ever see.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:51 PM (mk9aG

I think Paper Moon was the best performance by a kid. Tatum O'Neal should have stayed a kid.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:53 PM (2DOZq)

88 I haven't liked Grace Park since she quit Hawaii 5-0 because she wasn't being paid the same as the leads, and decided to blame... racist white people. Don't have time for that shit, no matter how hot I used to think she was.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (Dp5Kd)

89 Kid actors are a lot better these days. The Lead Standard for bad acting used to be the moppet who played Bonnie Blue in GWTW. Apart from a few, maybe Natalie Wood in "Miracle on 42nd Street" (or was that the porn one?), they were terrible.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (kQs4Y)

90 The old fart that played the Supreme Being was hilarious.



"Well, of course. I am the Supreme Being, I'm not entirely dim..."





Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (Z+IKu)


Ralph Richardson

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (WBgvd)

91 I loved The Cowboys, and I was a big fan of Paper Moon, I liked Madelyn Kahn in that movie too.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 08:55 PM (a4EWo)

92 Gambling movie?

California Split, sun go down, moon come out , all the....

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 08:55 PM (lfmil)

93 A foreign movie on TCM, watched a Russian WWII movie this week with subtitles that I liked but not following this one.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 08:55 PM (ZCEU2)

94 I also enjoyed the bumptious little girl in The Florida Project. That kid has the devil in her!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:56 PM (mk9aG)

95 OK, 1/3 of the way thru watching the original "12 Angry Men".

I find it disconcerting that Henry Fonda looks so young.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 08:56 PM (RfzVr)

96 Georgia fumbles punt.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:56 PM (VNfwt)

97 Ah hm, National Velvet.

Posted by: Elizabeth Taylor at September 21, 2019 08:57 PM (lfmil)

98 "OK, 1/3 of the way thru watching the original "12 Angry Men"." I'm the world's biggest Sidney Lumet fan.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:58 PM (mk9aG)

99 The Cowboys is in my top western.
Freaks might be something I would like

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (ZCEU2)

100 I saw Ad Astra yesterday with my brother. I won't spoil it, but at the end, my brother said, "Well, it had really nice landscapes."

In 2019, kids with smartphones can make short movies with good special effects, so, yeah, a big budget sci-fi studio picture better look amazing.

For the record, I liked the movie better than my brother did.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (PNBod)

101 gp - no you're not. Fight me.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (RfzVr)

102 I hate kids in movies, especially Spielberg kids -- they are extra annoying.

Is this a Spielburg movie?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM

It's hit or miss for me. I so hate the kids in the Tom Cruise "War of the Worlds" movie, that I can't even watch it anymore. I watched it once and they annoyed the hell out of me to the point I was yelling at the screen for them to STFU and hoping they would get killed. (I also felt the same way about the daughter in "Taken" who was an absolute ungrateful, self-centered brat.) I tried watching it again one time, because I remember liking the movie other than them but... nope. Couldn't do it.

But then there's a movie like "Super 8" that I enjoyed, even though it's mostly focused on the kids.

For me, so long as the kids aren't portrayed as whiney-ass little brats or holier-than-thou-insufferable-assholes-smarter-than-loser-parents, I can deal with kids in movies.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (Do5/p)

103 Ralph Richardson
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (WBgvd)

That's him!....Thanks Q Man.

He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)

104 66 Hear, hear. Even as a *kid*, I hated kids in movies. One yuuuuge exception is "Time Bandits" which I've always loved.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)

Time bandits has a surprising amount of depth to it, for more than you'd expect from what could have been a silly python movie.

such as when the little boy demands of God, "But why does there have to be Evil???"

and God says "Well my, you really ARE a smart little boy, aren't you? Well, you know, free will and all that." Then God just walks off - and that's all the answer you're ever gonna get, kid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:00 PM (V2Yro)

105 Saw Last Blood this afternoon. I don't throw the word amazeballs around lightly.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:00 PM (SfYbS)

106 The girl who played Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird was fantastic, I think her name was Mary Badham (?), I don't know what else she ever acted in.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (a4EWo)

107
On that note, King has his hands on the tiller for the remake of The Stand and I guarantee it'll suck. He's already selected Whoopi Goldberg for the Mother Abigail role.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy


Mother Abigail The Next Generation

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (aKsyK)

108 I saw a trailer for a French, English language sci-fi movie, called Blood Machines.

the trailer is very odd, and apparently the whole thing is built around music by Carpenter Brut.

I can only hope the plot is as good as the trailer

https://youtu.be/qisX76lABk0


Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (xG/b0)

109 93 I'm guessing asking for passports on a European train is so 1970s. They don't care these days where your from.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:02 PM (ZCEU2)

110 The girl who played Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird was fantastic, I think her name was Mary Badham (?), I don't know what else she ever acted in.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

She was in a particularly bad episode of the Twilight Zone. They dubbed her Southern accent.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 09:02 PM (VNfwt)

111 ok. finished "edge of tomorrow" which i watched on a recommendation here a ways back. good movie. sort of like groundhog day with explosions.

thanks, whoever.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 09:02 PM (Pg+x7)

112
I saw Ad Astra yesterday with my brother. I won't spoil it, but at the end, my brother said, "Well, it had really nice landscapes."

In 2019, kids with smartphones can make short movies with good special effects, so, yeah, a big budget sci-fi studio picture better look amazing.

For the record, I liked the movie better than my brother did.
Posted by: Pete in Texas

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Eesh. I'm going to see it tonight. I like going to movies.

I saw The Goldfinch last week. Don't waste your time. Whether you've read the book or not, it's awful.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 09:03 PM (13CQC)

113 "The girl who played Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird was fantastic, I think her name was Mary Badham (?)" Agree wholeheartedly.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:03 PM (mk9aG)

114 drat, wanted to post this one instead

https://youtu.be/jLHhr8Xc4AM

Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 09:03 PM (xG/b0)

115 105 Saw Last Blood this afternoon. I don't throw the word amazeballs around lightly.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:00 PM (SfYbS)
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I'm tempted to see it for the same reason I wanted to see "Peppermint", because I was told I shouldn't.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:04 PM (kQs4Y)

116 "gp - no you're not. Fight me." LOL! Since I started on my new meds, I don't want to fight anymore. It's yours!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:04 PM (mk9aG)

117 I watched the Burt Lancaster movie The Train. I hadn't seen it since I was a kid and I quite enjoyed it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 09:04 PM (+y/Ru)

118 He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.





Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)



He was in Doctor Zhivago and Khartoum. He had a great voice and delivery

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:05 PM (WBgvd)

119 I will next darken a theater's doorstep on November 8 when the new Midway movie opens. The trailers look awesome, but they usually do.

But that will make 3 films I've seen in theaters in one year (John Wick 3, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Midway). A record for at least 20 years.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 09:06 PM (VNfwt)

120 For Burt Lancaster being a fkin Leftist I like him in movies, really like The Train.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (ZCEU2)

121


I haven't been to a movie in a few years. Having to sit through 15 minutes of trailers makes you realize the utter garbage that Hollywood is shitting out

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (WBgvd)

122 Ralph Richardson was also the old wizard in "Dragonslayer" a movie I always thought was a fun sword & sorcery 80's flic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (V2Yro)

123 I went ahead and got a blu-ray of The Longest Day this past week.

Unfortunately Jeffy B at Amazon was up to his old tricks again. For the third time in a month, I got a used blu-ray instead of the new one I ordered.

Sent it back, bought another (cheaper!) new copy from on of the Amazon 'marketplace sellers,' and spent my Amazon credit on a CD of Diana Ross' greatest hits (please don't judge me).

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (L2ZTs)

124 Speaking of Markie Mark, I want to give a shout-out to two fine movies he made with director Peter Berg: Deepwater Horizon and Patriots Day. These guys love America and it shows. The movies have some of the most believable blue-collar-worker dialog I've ever heard.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (mk9aG)

125 For Burt Lancaster being a fkin Leftist I like him in movies, really like The Train.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (ZCEU2)



I was hoping that Paul Scofield would put a bullet in his commie head

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (WBgvd)

126 Speaking of Diana Ross, has she ever acted in a really good movie?

From what I've read it was all downhill after she did Lady Sings The Blues. I've seen wildly mixed reviews of Mahogany and The Wiz for years online.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:09 PM (L2ZTs)

127
He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


He was "The Boss" who was defeated by Raymond Massey's airmen who didn't approve of privately owned airplanes or independent states.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:09 PM (aKsyK)

128 Does anyone else ever wonder what is wrong with people who would even watch a movie like "Freaks," let alone enjoy it.

To each his own I guess but, the dark side, they can have it.

Posted by: teej at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (EVeeU)

129 I think I would like this movie to be seen by me. Other people may like it and see it too.

Posted by: Wednesday Thursburgday at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (Tnijr)

130 I was talking about the sequel to The Shining earlier.

Does anyone think a decent movie could be made that's a *prequel* of Full Metal Jacket, about Sgt Hartman?

Only problem is, Stanley's not here any more and Gustav Hasford would probably have to be involved.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (L2ZTs)

131 "I haven't been to a movie in a few years." Not been in a theater since 2004. The home movie experience is so superior to that in the theater, I'll never go back. I could give you at least ten reasons.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:11 PM (mk9aG)

132 And teeth.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:11 PM (lfmil)

133 Freaks sounds good, but for me the 1932 Tod Browning original is da bomb.

Talk about "shocking the squares." Good grief.

If Tod were still around, Insane Clown Posse would have hired him to make a few music videos for them...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:11 PM (L2ZTs)

134 This movie seems way too weird for me.

And Miss Park is not all that.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (bFYPm)

135 "I'm tempted to see it for the same reason I wanted to see "Peppermint", because I was told I shouldn't." Peppermint is very satisfying, but it has its stupid moments, like most vigilante movies do.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (mk9aG)

136 She won't give it up.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (lfmil)

137 I can't wait for the 2020 release of Annie Will Grab Your Gun!

Posted by: Beto, how come no one is eating my guacamole? at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (a4EWo)

138 just got back from ad astra. what a bunch of idiocy.

i was doing ok until the commander of the mars base tells brad pitt "i can get you to the rocket. after that, you're on your own". because everybody knows it's totally possible to climb up between the booster engines and open the hatch on that bulkhead they're attached to so you can enter the spaceship.

yeah. after that i no longer cared what happened.


there was also a bit of dark star space surfing. no beach ball aliens, though.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (kf5Ci)

139 137 I can't wait for the 2020 release of Annie Will Grab Your Gun!

Posted by: Beto, how come no one is eating my guacamole? at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (a4EWo)


Studio decided to shelve it.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (lfmil)

140 Re Ad Astra:

I've been hearing the whole movie is basically a condemnation of "toxic masculinity."

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (L2ZTs)

141 I still enjoy going to theaters for the inyerface huge screen experience. I don't have the Greyhound Bus Station scene that some of you suffer.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (kQs4Y)

142 there was also a bit of dark star space surfing. no beach ball aliens, though.
Posted by: Anachronda

What about SS lesbians from Mars?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)

143 Oh, no! I said, shelve. Is that a bad word?

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (lfmil)

144 All Hail Eris, I've been fortunate too. Every audience I've ever seen a movie with has been well-behaved.

Having said that... I almost always go to matinees during the week. :-)
That might have something to do with it...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)

145 "This movie seems way too weird for me"

It's a perfect metaphor for the way the people they are being murdered by climate change and how a child must stop it before she gets to live to 29 years old.

Posted by: Wednesday Thursburgday at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (Tnijr)

146 130 I was talking about the sequel to The Shining earlier.

Does anyone think a decent movie could be made that's a *prequel* of Full Metal Jacket, about Sgt Hartman?

Only problem is, Stanley's not here any more and Gustav Hasford would probably have to be involved.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (L2ZTs)

You just gave me a great idea. The time frame of "The Shining" is kinda hazy, it could have taken place earlier in the century.

So Danny grows up, and in order to deal with the trauma of his youth, he turns into Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. Waddya think???

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (V2Yro)

147 Saw The Man From Snowy River again....damn great movie!

Posted by: rgallego98 at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (meoYc)

148 there was also a bit of dark star space surfing. no beach ball aliens, though.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (kf5Ci)
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Dark Star is a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (kQs4Y)

149 People are screaming for another added movie but Hollywood thinks they know better what people really want. Typical liberals.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (2DOZq)

150 Last week at the Air and Space museum watched a short documentary on D-Day in 3 D, it was amazing what they did to make it, the aircraft looked like toy planes that would fly at you within 5 feet.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (ZCEU2)

151 127

He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy



He was "The Boss" who was defeated by Raymond Massey's airmen who
didn't approve of privately owned airplanes or independent states.


don't forget the giant sight on the end of the barrel of the big gun that was going to shoot them to the moon. so they could properly target it.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (kf5Ci)

152 Tom, LOL.
Doctor Sleep's main character/hero is Danny, actually...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (L2ZTs)

153
Speaking of Diana Ross, has she ever acted in a really good movie?




She was good in Star Trek with Billy Dee Williams.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (j7i25)

154 What about SS lesbians from Mars?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)


With riding crops and thigh high boots.
Shiny black leather boots.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (lfmil)

155 Sooth, seriously?

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:17 PM (L2ZTs)

156 I liked Diana Ross in "Lady Sings the Blues", but that was as much due to Billy Dee Williams in a tux as it was her turn as Billie Holiday.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:18 PM (kQs4Y)

157 156 I liked Diana Ross in "Lady Sings the Blues", but that was as much due to Billy Dee Williams in a tux as it was her turn as Billie Holiday.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:18 PM (kQs4Y

Diana Ross's daughter is the mom in Blackish.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

158 Speaking of Diana Ross, has she ever acted in a really good movie?

She was good in Star Trek with Billy Dee Williams.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (j7i25)

naw, she was the Diva in 5th Element.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (V2Yro)

159 What about SS lesbians from Mars?



Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)





With riding crops and thigh high boots.

Shiny black leather boots.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (lfmil)


Can we get Roger Debris to direct it?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (WBgvd)

160 All Hail Eris, yup.

I've heard that she was already difficult (arrogant, smug, condescending) to deal with, but that Ross became IMPOSSIBLE after Lady Sings The Blues, because it was her first-ever acting role... and she got nominated for an Oscar.

Oh man. I would not want to have had to deal with her at all in the mid-1970s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (L2ZTs)

161 What about SS lesbians from Mars?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)
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There's a funny novel called "Gestapo Mars" by Victor Gischler if you're into smutty sci fi alt history.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:20 PM (kQs4Y)

162

SS Lesbians sounds like the name of a ship.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:20 PM (aKsyK)

163
Diana Ross's daughter is the mom in Blackish.

Isn't that Janet Jackson from Good Times?

Or Mrs Cosby??

Or Mrs Cosby's sister who was on Fame?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (Jy6ww)

164 Sooth, whatever became of Irene Cara? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (L2ZTs)

165 SS Lesbians sounds like the name of a ship.
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Clittoral combat ship.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (kQs4Y)

166
AZIZ,

MORE LIGHT!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (Jy6ww)

167 Here's a controversial movie opinion

Pandorum > Event Horizon



Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (2DOZq)

168 Just got back from date night with my son. We went to see Downton Abbey. I LOVED it. We split a bottle of wine, had a snack and enjoyed the movie immensely. Came back to our little hamlet and had dinner. A wonderful evening.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (dUJdY)

169 She could sing better than Billie Holiday.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (lfmil)

170
whatever became of Irene Cara?

Oh yeah.

Now I'm thinking of that music video with the girl in leggins who splashes a bucket of water on herself.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (Jy6ww)

171 qdpsteve @ 160- Diana Ross. That's what killed Michael Jackson. The effort of turning himself into Diana Ross was just too much.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (UUkQp)

172 I wonder if Elizabeth Warren will get the Hollywood push before the election. I can almost hear the soundtrack in my head, Half Breed by Cher , a little Buffy Saint Marie and some Paul Revere and the Raiders.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (a4EWo)

173 Sooth, whatever became of Irene Cara? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (L2ZTs)

Her best movie was DC Cab. One of the funniest movies I had seen at the time. Don't know how it's held up.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:24 PM (2DOZq)

174 Eromero, I can believe that. One of the major stories/legends about MJ is that he spent his life mooning over Diana, who alternately led him on, used him and ignored him throughout his life.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:24 PM (L2ZTs)

175 Clittoral combat ship.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (kQs4Y)


Shhh, if the Navy hears of that they will all our defense spending.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:24 PM (lfmil)

176 164 not much it seems since early 80s

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:25 PM (ZCEU2)

177 Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (a4EWo)


I heard that the child actors in TKAM were not "professional" actors. They were actually residents of the town in which it was filmed.

Posted by: Grannymimi at September 21, 2019 09:25 PM (u5LFV)

178 Clittoral combat ship.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta

Adm. Krystal and First Mate Goldberg could never find it.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:26 PM (SfYbS)

179 Not sure if it's true, but I just read Leslie Uggams was in Deadpool...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:27 PM (L2ZTs)

180 Grannymimi, all of those kids did a good job, Jem and Dill and Walter played their parts so well.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (a4EWo)

181 Watching The Train Robbers on TCM.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (RU4sa)

182

Did anybody know there was a LGBTQ presidential forum Friday night ?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)

183 Bertram, that's craptacular! ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:29 PM (L2ZTs)

184 Here's a preview for a movie I want to see, "The Lighthouse":

https://tinyurl.com/yxusj3f6

Robert Eggars directed "The VVitch".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:30 PM (kQs4Y)

185 Did anybody know there was a LGBTQ presidential forum Friday night ?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)

in times past that would have warranted a joke but it's all gotten so tiresome.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (V2Yro)

186 Which reminds me... remember that variety show that was on in the early 1980s with John Davidson, "That's Incredible!"

OMG. It was alternately cringeworthy and hilarious, even at the time it was a hit.

I can imagine if they brought it back today:

"This man has lived on Planet Earth since 1967, yet never once ever stepped foot inside a Starbucks! THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (L2ZTs)

187 watched a few laps of the nascar race. no fucking wonder that sport is dead. another tokyo joe benefit dance. fuck that. nascar is an insult to my fucking stupidity. i would rather be in church.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (KP5rU)

188 76 Original 13 Ghosts is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (VNfwt)

---------------------------------

Much prefer the version with Tony Shalhoub. Though, to be fair, the original is basically a gimmick movie.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 09:32 PM (CAJOC)

189 Watched a lot of DVDs this week. "The Command" and "Hunter Killer" weren't awful. "Reprisal" and "Air Strike" were very very awful; Bruce Willis doesn't even try anymore. He seems to demand to ad-lib ALL his scenes now.

I might have enjoyed "Air Strike" (Chinese movie) more if it wasn't dubbed, but with English audio, the dialog is ten times sillier and lamer.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:33 PM (mk9aG)

190 This foreign film on TCM is Les rendez-vous d'Anna

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:33 PM (ZCEU2)

191 I forgot about John Davidson, I used to watch that. (there wasn't much on). "This man hasn't changed his underwear in 4 years, That's Incredible!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:34 PM (V2Yro)

192 Did anybody know there was a LGBTQ presidential forum Friday night ?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)
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No, sir, I did not.

If Ace or any of you barstards had been in the audience posing as a concerned citizen with questions, I might have tuned in.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)

193 Tom, LOL! Don't forget Cathie Lee Crosby, who was the eye candy...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:34 PM (L2ZTs)

194 "Did anybody know there was a LGBTQ presidential forum Friday night ?"

News report from 2026: "President Buttigieg and First Husband Chasten visited an elementary school today. They took turns reading 'Heather Has Two Daddies' to eager third-graders."

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:35 PM (mk9aG)

195

Grace Park needs to do terrible things to me.

Posted by: Jack Meoff at September 21, 2019 09:35 PM (UFLLM)

196
Anyone ever the notice the lady on the National Flooring Direct tv ads?

She has a square face, but pretty.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (Jy6ww)

197 There were also a lot of weeks featuring Even Knievel or some other daredevil on That's Incredible. At the last minute, the show would be "pre-empted."

Turned out it was often pre-empted because Evel had done his stunt, something went horrible wrong, and paramedics were busy scooping all 19 pieces of him up off the pavement so they could put him together again. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (L2ZTs)

198
I heard that the child actors in TKAM were not "professional" actors. They were actually residents of the town in which it was filmed.
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The TCM guy said they were amateurs from AL, but not that they were residents of the little town. That was their first movie role.

It was on this afternoon- saw the last 15 mins. Robert Duvall was great, even then.

Posted by: Sal at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (2qCi9)

199 Pandorum > Event Horizon

As a matter of story-structure, yeah. Also EH suffered from re-using scenes already mooted in The Shining, Alien, and (at the end) Hellraiser 3. (Or was it 4.)

I think Event Horizon works better, though, on account we can actually hear what the actors are saying. Also there was more humour. I can say 'humour' because most of the actors were Brits.

Lastly, Event Horizon is (so far) the only Warhammer 40000 prequel movie we got.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (ykYG2)

200 If Ace or any of you barstards had been in the audience posing as a concerned citizen with questions, I might have tuned in.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta

I was the guy dressed as the biker from the Village People asking Blotto what his fursona is.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:37 PM (SfYbS)

201 Anyone hear ever ordered something from a third party seller on Amazon and had some weird crap happen like the listing to disappear completely and the seller suddenly having a message in their profile about "contacting them before buying"? This is very strange. I am ready to cancel but I am giving the guy a chance to contact me back and explain himself.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:37 PM (uEbPt)

202 187 watched a few laps of the nascar race. no fucking wonder that sport is dead. another tokyo joe benefit dance. fuck that. nascar is an insult to my fucking stupidity. i would rather be in church.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (KP5rU)


Take those lobsters off the course, put some street worthy cars on, and they'll get their audience back.

Oh, yeah, shit can sjw.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (lfmil)

203 Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (a4EWo)


First movie I ever saw Robert Duvall in.

Posted by: Grannymimi at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (u5LFV)

204 Kelly Hu > Grace Park

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (2DOZq)

205 My wife and I saw Downton Abbey this afternoon. We both enjoyed it quite a bit.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (CAJOC)

206

Islam is right about the Clittorati!

Posted by: Quivering mound of love pudding at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (UFLLM)

207 ..., I've never had that happen, but it might not be a horrible idea to just cancel the whole order and start over again with someone else.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (L2ZTs)

208 i tried watching "that's Incredible," once. i couldn't keep my brain wet enough to finish. total, unadulterated, shit. like watching david muir.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (KP5rU)

209 "This is very strange. I am ready to cancel but I am giving the guy a chance to contact me back and explain himself."

Start credit card dispute NOW! Don't wait.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:39 PM (mk9aG)

210 I was the guy dressed as the biker from the Village People asking Blotto what his fursona is.
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Here it is:

https://tinyurl.com/ya7umx4m

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:39 PM (kQs4Y)

211

Is 13 Ghosts the movie with a sneaky Professor Harold Everett?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:40 PM (Jy6ww)

212
Hey, that's the Wicked Witch of the West!

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:40 PM (Jy6ww)

213 Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (2DOZq)

214 Buy stuff that's "fulfilled by Amazon". The devil's in the details. That's what beelzebub always says.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:42 PM (lfmil)

215 204 Kelly Hu > Grace Park


I rate this true.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:42 PM (HCqAo)

216


Joe Biden got defensive during an LGBTQ forum in Iowa, calling the moderator 'a real sweetheart' as they walked offstage


Apparently Joe's thought crime was saying that Mike Pence is a decent guy and the "moderator" went after him for that and other thought crimes in his past. There's going to be another queer forum in October on CNN.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (WBgvd)

217
Is Scrappy Doo in this movie?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (Jy6ww)

218 i have never seen duvall turn in shitty performance. maybe he did, i've just never seen one.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (KP5rU)

219 213 Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions



Gene Hackman

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (HCqAo)

220 213 Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (2DOZq)

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I just saw him playing Boo Radley In To Kill A Mockingbird. He had no lines.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (ZYB2s)

221 Here it is:

https://tinyurl.com/ya7umx4m

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta

It suits him.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:44 PM (SfYbS)

222 For Burt Lancaster being a fkin Leftist I like him in movies, really like The Train.
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (ZCEU2)


From watching him as Col. Thaddeus Gearhart in The Hallelujah Trail, I would have thought he was a conservative. Anyway, he was funny as hell.

Posted by: HTL at September 21, 2019 09:44 PM (SQ8u5)

223 Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters.
Posted by: Pig to man
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If 'can' is the operative word, then he's certainly a good choice.

As folk here have pointed out, Fred MacMurray was capable of that also.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (xSo9G)

224 burt lancaster was great as colonel angus.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (KP5rU)

225 Sal, I am so disappointed that I missed that this afternoon, it is one of my favorite movies.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (a4EWo)

226 "Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters."

Dick Powell transformed himself from the cheery clean-cut kid in the Golddiggers movies of 1930s into the hard-boiled detective in the 1940s noirs. It's scary how much he changed!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (mk9aG)

227 Saw "Rambo: Last Blood " today.

Very good action flick. Excellent acting: particularly by Stallone. Well-directed elegiac tone.

Bad guys die horribly. Rambo is against brutal Mexican gang members and respond with equal or greater violence.

I admire Stallone as a script writer. He's created memorable characters and is willing to let them change through the years. And complete a life story arc. Very few actors or writers have accomplished this in the Hollywood world.

Anyway, if you like the character of Rambo, you will enjoy this movie.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 21, 2019 09:47 PM (pqyXj)

228 I've never had that happen, but it might not be a horrible idea to
just cancel the whole order and start over again with someone else.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (L2ZTs)

It was a good deal though. I'm guessing too good to be true.

Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:47 PM (uEbPt)

229 Gene Hackman
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (HCqAo)

I guess you can make that argument but I'm trying to think of a bad guy role other Lex Luther. The Firm?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (2DOZq)

230 When I was in grade school, early to mid-60s, our church had an annual "fun night" with a movie. One of the members must have owned a print of 13 Ghosts, because that was always the movie. They'd set up a projector and start the movie and invariably have to start and stop a few times as the projector did that click-click-click thing when the film wasn't tracking properly. They'd eventually get it right, then have "intermission" while they swapped in the second reel. Then the clicking thing again.

It was great fun. I thought the movie was quite scary but always had a terrific time.

Posted by: Granddork at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (kR3UB)

231 186 Which reminds me... remember that variety show that was on in the early 1980s with John Davidson, "That's Incredible!"

OMG. It was alternately cringeworthy and hilarious, even at the time it was a hit.

I can imagine if they brought it back today:

"This man has lived on Planet Earth since 1967, yet never once ever stepped foot inside a Starbucks! THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (L2ZTs)

Talk about a blast from the past...

(This gives me the urge to blast Black Flag's "TV Party".)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (bFYPm)

232 My HS son is writing a paper on the novel "All the King's Men," so I ordered a DVD of the 1949 movie with Broderick Crawford, as an adjunct to his project.

I saw it 40-45 years ago, but I was still surprised how good it is, & how well it holds up. Won Best Picture, so I guess I should've expected that it would still impress.

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (Cssks)

233
Richard Crenna was great in First Blood.

btw, there was someone here who used to do a great Walter Brennan impression.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (Jy6ww)

234 229 Gene Hackman
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (HCqAo)

I guess you can make that argument but I'm trying to think of a bad guy role other Lex Luther. The Firm?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions



Unforgiven

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (HCqAo)

235
Huh.

This sounds interesting.

That never happens.

I won't go to a theater for it, but I will rent it instead of stealing it, and purchase it if it's as interesting as it sounds.

Now, I don't know whether the movie is good, or if it's just TJM's salesmanship, but I never feel moved to watch the stuff H'wood puts out, so someone is doing their job

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (JY0JC)

236 "Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters."



Dick Powell transformed himself from the cheery clean-cut kid in the
Golddiggers movies of 1930s into the hard-boiled detective in the 1940s
noirs. It's scary how much he changed!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (mk9aG)



Basil Rathbone played a bad guy a lot of movies during the same period that he portrayed Sherlock Holmes. Robin Hood - bad guy, Zorro - bad guy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (WBgvd)

237 Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (mk9aG)

If we are going back that far , admittedly I forgot about Fred McMurray.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (2DOZq)

238 Robert Duvall is the only actor I know that can toggle between good guy and bad guy characters.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (2DOZq)


Check out Neal McDonough who played Buck Compton in Band of Brothers. Great charismatic guy and you really rooted for him especially when he went nutso. Then he shows up on Justified and plays the creepiest asshole.


Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (uEbPt)

239 I guess you can make that argument but I'm trying to think of a bad guy role other Lex Luther. The Firm?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM

Crimson Tide?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (rBtIz)

240 I guess you can make that argument but I'm trying to think of a bad guy role other Lex Luther. The Firm?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions

You could argue he was the "bad guy" in Crimson Tide.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (SfYbS)

241 Missed it by ** that much.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (SfYbS)

242 So Firestarter?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (QSzhg)

243
I remember it was quite stark the first time I saw Fred MacMurray play a heavy. What, Steve Douglas is mean?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (f1Vqw)

244 good guy/bad guy:

Ernest Borgnine = Sgt. "Fatso" Judson/Marty

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:51 PM (Cssks)

245 thanks Naturalfake. I didn't watch it in the end because the asking ticket price was $14. I could buy three used paperbacks for that.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (ykYG2)

246 I've often thought Jim Gaffigan could play a great heavy in a movie. He's already done at least one serious role, as he was in Chappaquiddick.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (L2ZTs)

247 My wife and I saw Downton Abbey this afternoon. We both enjoyed it quite a bit.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (CAJOC)


It was nice but really didn't advance the story or characters much. Could have done without the queer stuff. Maggie Smith was a sharp as ever

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (WBgvd)

248 Missed it by ** that much.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (rBtIz)

249 243
I remember it was quite stark the first time I saw Fred MacMurray play a heavy. What, Steve Douglas is mean?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (f1Vqw)

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Flubber was a Class I biotoxin.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (ZYB2s)

250 Gene Hackman was a good villain in The Quick and the Dead, and Unforgiven. He was ersatz Nixon-Clinton in Absolute Power.

And the voice of Nuclear Man in Superman 4. The man has range.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (LxTcq)

251 Unforgiven
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (HCqAo)

Was he though?

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (2DOZq)

252 Dick Powell's last roll was the Doctor on Mister Roberts, did a fantastic job as always.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (ZCEU2)

253
I was watching Beverly Hillbillies this morning and at the end the credits read "Directed by Dick Crenna."

Turns out that's Richard Crenna, who directed a lot of tv epsiodes of various tv shows.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (Jy6ww)

254
What I loved about the finale of Downton was the Happily Ever After ending.

Tell me, will the movie ruin that for me?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)

255 "If we are going back that far " Everybody who is disappointed by today's Hollywood output NEEDS to go back that far, and farther, to catch up on all the good stuff they made back then. Nobody has seen all the good old movies yet. Not to mention foreign films, which have always been as good as Hollywood's best, and no less so today.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (mk9aG)

256 243; they got fred to play the heavy by fucking with his tee time. you never fucked with fred's golf game. thoroughly pissed him off.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:54 PM (KP5rU)

257 Lawrence Olivier:

Marathon Man/Hamlet

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (Cssks)

258 McMurray was really a shithead in The Apartment.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (2DOZq)

259 15 mins left to go in the original. I think it is the superior version. There are moments and some performances that are better in the remake, but Fonda and Cobb > Lemmon and Scott. Some of the peripheral characters are better in the remake, but overall gotta go with the 1957 version.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (RfzVr)

260 I was watching Beverly Hillbillies this morning and at the end the credits read "Directed by Dick Crenna."

Turns out that's Richard Crenna, who directed a lot of tv epsiodes of various tv shows.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (Jy6ww)


he was Little Luke in "The Real McCoys" with Walter Brennan as pa or grand pa.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (aS1PU)

261
He was Luke, his boy was Little Luke.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:56 PM (Jy6ww)

262 251 Unforgiven
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (HCqAo)

Was he though?



In a movie with no good guys, yes.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:56 PM (HCqAo)

263 chavez, yup.

Fred Mac Murray drove William Frawley crazy after hiring him onto My Three Sons, because Murray insisted all his scenes for the whole season be shot first, so he could tour the country golfing ASAP. So all the scenes in every episode were shot way out of order.

Frawley hated never knowing what was going on around the scenes he shot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (L2ZTs)

264 He was Luke, his boy was Little Luke.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:56 PM (Jy6ww)


That was a long time ago.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (aS1PU)

265

Walter Brennan played a heel a couple of times.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (Jy6ww)

266 3 minutes 'till ONT.

Bye.

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (Cssks)

267 Jimmy Cagney could handle both heroes and heavies. Doesn't get much more villainous than "White Heat."

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (mk9aG)

268 What I loved about the finale of Downton was the Happily Ever After ending.



Tell me, will the movie ruin that for me?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)



No it won't. More people find love including the bummer butler. It leaves it off where another movie could be made

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:58 PM (WBgvd)

269

Dick Crenna played Walter, a nasal voiced annoying teen in "Our Miss Brooks" (Eve Arden and Mr. Moony starring).

It was a hoot to see him doing that voice.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:58 PM (f1Vqw)

270 "Frawley hated never knowing what was going on around the scenes he shot." And Vivian Vance despised Frawley.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (mk9aG)

271
Jimmy Cagney could handle both heroes and heavies. Doesn't get much more villainous than "White Heat."

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (mk9aG)


And he was a song and dance man too. Quite a talented man

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (WBgvd)

272 You want good guys who played heavies...

Check out who played the heavy in the 1964 version of The Killers, with Lee Marvin. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (L2ZTs)

273 Frawley hated never knowing what was going on around the scenes he shot.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (L2ZTs)

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Probably explains the heart attack that killed him on Hollywood and Ivar in front of the Knickerbocker Hotel

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:00 PM (ZYB2s)

274 NOOD ONT

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (aS1PU)

275

$14 = 14 used condoms. Relative Value Index.

Posted by: Quivering mound of love pudding at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (A/axl)

276 Next Downton Abby film will reveal the terrible secrets of the estate as the Curse of the Mummy starts to murder all who live there. Maggie Smiths character will be revealed to be Princess Ankh-es-en-Amon

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 10:02 PM (QSzhg)

277
Not sure if it's true, but I just read Leslie Uggams was in Deadpool...
Posted by: qdpsteve

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She was, and she was fun.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 10:02 PM (13CQC)

278 And Vivian Vance despised Frawley.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (mk9aG)



She thought he was too old to play her husband and I think he was drunk a lot a stunk of booze.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (WBgvd)

279 "Probably explains the heart attack that killed him on Hollywood and Ivar in front of the Knickerbocker Hotel" I thought he was shot dead while twisting a valve in the Pacific.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 10:04 PM (mk9aG)

280 Re: Neal McDonough

Then he shows up on Justified and plays the creepiest asshole.

See also his role as Jack Horton in RED 2.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 10:06 PM (7s3Gx)

281
Yeah, Ethel hated Fred's guts. Absolutely despised him. They were thinking about doing a Fred and Ethel spin-off when I Love Lucy wound down, but Vivian Vance turned it down flat because she didn't want to be around William Frawley.

She was really a glamorous sort, and didn't like being frumped up to play Ethel.

William Frawley was also a drunk, and notorious for causing problems. Desi wanted him, but they put something in his contract that said show up drunk for work once, and you're gone. Also, anytime you say you're sick, you'd better have a doctor's note, or you're gone there as well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 10:06 PM (f1Vqw)

282 140

I wouldn't exactly say it condemns Toxic Masculinity. It does condemn one man who goes all Colonel Kurtz berserk and murders his crew.

I was more upset that Brad Pitt's character was just one step removed from a comic book superhero. SPOILER ALERT: Pitt saves humanity, survives, and reconciles with his wife, now that he's in touch with his feelings. I would have preferred doing only the first, would have accepted just the first two, but all three is a bit too much for my tastes.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 21, 2019 10:09 PM (Vsull)

283 Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (mk9aG)


That's why we have TJM and MovieGique to cull them out for us.

Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 10:09 PM (lfmil)

284 sorry to be late to the movie thread

was watching an oldish French movie Brotherhood of Wolves (2001) - it's about the Beast of Gauvedon

odd... gothic but not supernatural

the guy who was the funny kung fu bad guy in John Wick 3 was in it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (G546f)

285 I just realised something. Warhammer 40000's Imperium is the Byzantine Empire under the Macedonian Dynasty

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (ykYG2)

286 I hope you'll review the Midway remake when it comes out in November.

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:26 PM (Bf3hj)

287 So on imdb, while looking up your movie, I stumbled across a movie by the same name (Freaks) made by MGM in 1932. And talk about intriguing! After the success of Dracula (1931), the director was given carte blanche. He choose to make a disturbing horror movie that effectively ended his career. The movie was banned in England for 30 years. And yet, today, it gets rave reviews. The story explores who are really the freaks: the circus sideshow people (cast as themselves) or the normal people, who have warped souls. Apparently the ending is somewhat gruesome. I reserved it from the local library.

Posted by: bradc at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (AnZBw)

288 So on imdb, while looking up your movie, I stumbled across a movie by the same name (Freaks) made by MGM in 1932. And talk about intriguing! After the success of Dracula (1931), the director was given carte blanche. He chose to make a disturbing horror movie that effectively ended his career. The movie was banned in England for 30 years. And yet, today, it gets rave reviews. The story explores who are really the freaks: the circus sideshow people (cast as themselves) or the normal people, who have warped souls. Apparently the ending is somewhat gruesome. I reserved it from the local library.

Posted by: bradc at September 21, 2019 11:52 PM (AnZBw)

289 BradC--

You're right, that's why I labeled this movie "Freaks (2019)" and not just "Freaks" because the Boy and I had that very discussion.

I say, "I'm going to go see 'Freaks', you wanna come?"

He says, "The classic one? I'm in!"

I say, "No, it's that movie we saw that trailer for..."

He says, "Oh, yeah, I guess so."

Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (CcUfv)

290 Sorry I missed the thread, guys, I was off watching Rita Rudner.

James Cagney is amazing. His turn in "Love Me or Leave Me" is just an astounding (Oscar nominated) performance. Outshines Doris Day.

He's a gangster and a bully but he loves Ruth Etting and is also exasperated by her because she's too good for him. Just great.

Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2019 12:07 AM (CcUfv)

291 Check out Neal McDonough who played Buck Compton in Band of Brothers. Great charismatic guy and you really rooted for him especially when he went nutso. Then he shows up on Justified and plays the creepiest asshole.
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (uEb


Way late to the thread, but...

irl, Neal McDonough is a conservative Roman Catholic. Will not accept a part if the character has to even so much kiss a woman, let alone have sex.

But then, as you noted, he has no problem playing a creepy psychotic asshole on Justified.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 01:03 AM (MH+aB)

292 Guys. Trump is finished. Maureen Dowd says so.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 22, 2019 01:25 AM (FiUMj)

Saturday Afternoon Chess Thread 09-21-2019


WIM Cecile Haussernot 01.jpg
WIM Cecile Haussernot (FRA)


Moviegique will be along later with the movie thread. As always, the chess/dress pr0n thread is an open thread, so there is no such thing as an off-topic comment.



Beginner Problem - White To Play (327)

White to play and mate in 2 moves. That is, White moves, Black responds, then White delivers a checkmate.

Hint: In this puzzle, White only moves one piece


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Intermediate Problem - White To Play (824)

Goal: White can force mate in 4 moves
Hint: Black's back rank is very weak


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Chess Ratings

From last week:

41 I'd like to find out more about the rating process.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 14, 2019 05:56 PM (ZYB2s)

The wikipedia entry for the Elo rating system (named after its inventor, Arpad Elo) gives a pretty good overview:

The difference in the ratings between two players serves as a predictor of the outcome of a match. Two players with equal ratings who play against each other are expected to score an equal number of wins. A player whose rating is 100 points greater than their opponent's is expected to score 64%; if the difference is 200 points, then the expected score for the stronger player is 76%.

A player's Elo rating is represented by a number which increases or decreases depending on the outcome of games between rated players. After every game, the winning player takes points from the losing one. The difference between the ratings of the winner and loser determines the total number of points gained or lost after a game. In a series of games between a high-rated player and a low-rated player, the high-rated player is expected to score more wins. If the high-rated player wins, then only a few rating points will be taken from the low-rated player. However, if the lower-rated player scores an upset win, many rating points will be transferred. The lower-rated player will also gain a few points from the higher rated player in the event of a draw. This means that this rating system is self-correcting. Players whose ratings are too low should, in the long run, do better than the rating system predicts and thus gain rating points until the ratings reflect their true playing strength.

The wiki entry provides an explanation of the mathematical calcuation involved, which I will not reproduce here. The system is based on pure statistics calculation and is not dependent on anything unique to the game of chess. Theoretically, you can use it for any skill-based game where the results are a win, a loss, or a draw.

The more rated games you play, the more accurate the rating is. For exmaple, if I play 10 games, my rating will be such-and-such, but a couple three of those games may be 'fluke' wins or losses, and not representative of my actual playing strength. But if I play 100 games, then those flukes become less significant, because there won't be many of them. And the more games I play, the more data points the statistical calcuation has to work with. At the grandmaster level, small differences in ratings between two players indicate a noticeable difference in playing strength.

So, what kind of numbers are we talking about here? Typically, after your first tournament, your rating will be in the 600-1000 range, and you work your way up from there. For the purpose of tournament pairings, players are grouped into classes. Players with ratings between 1000–1199 are Class E players, 1200–1399 is Class D, then, C, B, A and then 2000–2199 is Expert. After that, you get into the Master rankings starting at 2200. At that level, the competition is really tough, so if you make if up that high, you're better almost everyone in the entire world. The International Master and International Grandmaster titles aren't awarded based exclusively on achieving a certain rating, but also on tournament performance in international competition.

The rating of last week's hottie is 1100, which is near the beginner level. So I know some of you morons could beat her in competition. My rating (1376) is higher, so, theoretically, I would win most games we played. However, none of us are as pretty as she is, so we're all losers there. Today's hottie, though, is an Woman International Master (which is like an IM, only there's no performance requirement, only a high enough rating (2200)), so none of us would have the ghost of a chance. Zombie might give her some problems, but the rest of us? We'd be like the mud she scrapes off the bottom of her shoe.



Advanced Problem - Black To Play (1041)

How does Black successfully play this position?

This is kind of a tricky endgame. In order to best understand its subleties, you need to play it like a devil's advocate. That is, once you think you've found a winning move or line for Black, you need to ask yourself "how can White throw a monkey wrench into Black's plan?" So, for example, you may start out by looking at 1...f3 2.gxf3+ Kxf3 and then think "woohoo, I've found the solution, that wasn't so hard", but then you need to consider that since White isn't forced to play 2.gxf3, is there a better move? Hint: there is.


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Dress Pr0n For The 'Ettes:




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Greetings From Portugal




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Solutions Update

Beginner Problem - White To Play


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1.Rf6+ Kh7
2.Rh6#


Intermediate Problem - White To Play


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3r2k1/1q3p1p/p1p2bp1/2B2p2/8/1P2Q2P/P1P2PP1/4R1K1 w - - 0 1

1.Qe8+! Kg7

or 1...Rxe8 2.Rxe8+ Kg7 3.Bf8+ Kg8 4.Bh6#.

2.Bf8+ Kg8

If 2...Kh8 then 3.Bh6+ Rxe8 4.Rxe8#

3.Bh6+ Rxe8
4.Rxe8#


Advanced Problem - Black To Play


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8/8/8/8/4kpp1/8/3K2P1/8 b - - 0 1

1...f3
2.Ke1

If 2.gxf3+ then 2...Kxf3 wins easily

2... Ke3
3.g3

If 3.gxf3 then Black wins by 3...Kxf3 4.Kf1 Kg3 5.Kg1 Kh3 6.Kh1 g3 7.Kg1 g2 8.Kf2 Kh2

3...f2+
4.Kf1 Kd3!

Black needs to give up one pawn in order to force White's king away from the other. His king had to go to d3, seizing the opposition. If 3...Kd2? then 4.Kxf2 and now it is Black who has the opposition. White can no longer make progress.

5.Kxf2 Kd2
6.Kg1 Ke3
7.Kg2 Ke2
8.Kg1 Kf3
9.Kh2 Kf2
10.Kh1 Kxg3
11.Kg1 Kh3
12.Kf2 Kh2
13.Ke3 and wins

But 1...Kd4 is also good. Probably even better.

Hope to see you all next week!

___________

Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and paste it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:25 PM




Comments

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1 Pawn to E3

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 05:26 PM (LxTcq)

2 Another cutie for sure

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 05:27 PM (ZCEU2)

3 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:31 PM (arJlL)

4
Moviegique will be along later with the movie thread.

James Monroe's been kidnapped !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:32 PM (arJlL)

5 Stopped to admire Cecile.

Posted by: Off the reservation at September 21, 2019 05:33 PM (vWMNq)

6 Willowed from the previous thread, where I was sharing about some of my bargain-basement horse racing bets...

A horse named Covfefe just won a race at Churchill Downs today. It was a heavy favorite.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:33 PM (L2ZTs)

7 The Greetings from Portugal dames look like they're
auditioning for Chiquita Banana.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:34 PM (arJlL)

8 On #1 Only seeing B- g8, then if RxB, it's a trade B for R, if not it's
R- f6#

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 05:35 PM (ZCEU2)

9 Chess Thread Yippee!

I think I see something under the dress of the Portuguese broad on the left....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 05:35 PM (Z+IKu)

10 There are fireworks here tonight and might go but have a link for movie thread.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 05:37 PM (ZCEU2)

11 Beginner problem slightly tricky.

Intermediate done as well.

Now to scroll down to see if there's one more.

Posted by: Off the reservation at September 21, 2019 05:37 PM (vWMNq)

12 see that picture at the top? that's how i looked after wisconsin demolished michigan - because earlier i made that game my lead pipe cinch lock of the day.

i.e. that's how i'd look if i was playing chess... and a wim... and named cecile haussernot... and was a girl.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 05:37 PM (Pg+x7)

13 Girl in the gray dress might want to lighten up on the starch.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:38 PM (MVjcR)

14 I went to a surprise birthday party the other day at a pizza joint, a lady's 65th, she's still beautiful, slim and elegant, there were lots of good-looking older women in terrific shape, there was karaoke and all the men and women who sang were great, good singers. I'm old and don't get out much so it was delightful, really lifted my spirits. Anyway, to the point, I was near a very well-dressed woman and noticed she had slipped out her cell phone, I watched out of the corner of my eye as she looked at the screen, swiped a move on a chess board, then put the phone away. I thought that was pretty cool...

Posted by: yop at September 21, 2019 05:38 PM (nqhkI)

15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDOI24RRAE&t=10s

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:38 PM (arJlL)

16 Ms. Haussernot is quite the looker.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 05:39 PM (ZYB2s)

17 13 Girl in the gray dress might want to lighten up on the starch.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:38 PM (MVjcR)

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To be fair, she'd go great on the top of a Christmas tree.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 05:41 PM (ZYB2s)

18 I understand Melania is about 5'11" I have a lady friend who is 6'2".

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 21, 2019 05:42 PM (cwv5C)

19 17 13 Girl in the gray dress might want to lighten up on the starch.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:38 PM (MVjcR)

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To be fair, she'd go great on the top of a Christmas tree.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 05:41 PM (ZYB2s)
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Good point!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:42 PM (MVjcR)

20 There are fireworks here tonight and might go but have a link for movie thread.
Posted by: Skip

Where's da fireworks ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:42 PM (arJlL)

21 I watched out of the corner of my eye as she looked at the screen, swiped a move on a chess board, then put the phone away. I thought that was pretty cool...
Posted by: yop at September 21, 2019 05:38 PM (nqhkI)


Playing a game online?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 05:43 PM (MH+aB)

22 ... but otherwise, that's how i looked.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 05:44 PM (Pg+x7)

23 Is the foliage outfit commonly worn by Portuguese wimmenz or is this from a show that they do for the tourists?

I can't imagine getting on a bus in that thing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 05:45 PM (ZYB2s)

24 Portugal girl is purty.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:46 PM (MVjcR)

25 No one nooded this thread? For shame.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:46 PM (gzG43)

26 What kind of melon is that on the Portugal lady's chest?

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:48 PM (gzG43)

27 1. Rf6+ Kh7
2. Rh6#

Posted by: jsg at September 21, 2019 05:48 PM (LSEYK)

28 23 Is the foliage outfit commonly worn by Portuguese wimmenz or is this from a show that they do for the tourists?

I can't imagine getting on a bus in that thing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 05:45 PM (ZYB2s)
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I'd be afraid she'd have bees!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:48 PM (MVjcR)

29 20 Upper providence

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 05:49 PM (ZCEU2)

30 Upper providence

Thanks. I prolly won't hear them.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:50 PM (arJlL)

31 26 What kind of melon is that on the Portugal lady's chest?
Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:48 PM (gzG43)

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I'd say it's a really nice melon, and it looks like there are two of them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 05:50 PM (ZYB2s)

32 Is the second dress Chanel?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 21, 2019 05:50 PM (lwiT4)

33

Cecile wears SHOES! Mon Dieu ..I'll hear her coming to my boudoir.......my move next.

Posted by: saf at September 21, 2019 05:50 PM (5IHGB)

34 What kind of melon is that on the Portugal lady's chest?

Honey please do.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:50 PM (arJlL)

35 I'd be afraid she'd have bees!
Posted by: Weasel

They protect her from the Honkenings.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:52 PM (arJlL)

36
Is the second dress Chanel?
Posted by: grammie winger

=======

Givenchy.

https://condenaststore.com/featured/
suzy-parker-in-givenchy-full-skirt-john-rawlings.html

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 05:52 PM (13CQC)

37 1. Qe8+ Rxe8
2. Rxe8+ Kg7
3. Bf8+ Kg8 or h8
4. Bh6 #

Black can decline to take the queen on Qe8, but it's similar ending with Rxe8 delivering the checkmate

Posted by: jsg at September 21, 2019 05:53 PM (LSEYK)

38 Bottom of Kate's dress reminds me of some dish towels I have in the kitchen. I didn't know dish towels could look so good.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:53 PM (gzG43)

39 Thanks Blonde Morticia.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 21, 2019 05:53 PM (lwiT4)

40 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:54 PM (arJlL)

41 thus probably belongs on the garden thread - hubby has a new 16 foot trimmer and is having fun poking at the trees

some kind of atavistic spear instinct

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 05:55 PM (+72t1)

42 Miley and kdkbear, see my posts from the pet thread and feel free to call. On porch having adult bev. So can chat..

Posted by: Catman at September 21, 2019 05:56 PM (4HMlb)

43 Hiya JT! I am not long for this thread. Watching my Cubbies self-destruct.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 21, 2019 05:56 PM (lwiT4)

44 1. ... Kd4
2. Ke2 Kc3 and I'm working that King back

Posted by: jsg at September 21, 2019 05:59 PM (LSEYK)

45 thus probably belongs on the garden thread - hubby has a new 16 foot trimmer and is having fun poking at the trees

some kind of atavistic spear instinct
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book!

So, put on a dress and climb the tree and have him take a pic for next week's thread !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:59 PM (arJlL)

46 Hiya JT! I am not long for this thread. Watching my Cubbies self-destruct.
Posted by: grammie winger

Where's Ernie Banks when ya need him ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:00 PM (arJlL)

47 I play chess on my phone sometimes, play the computer, at
medium level, and almost always lose. So what's my rating?

Posted by: George at September 21, 2019 06:01 PM (az+UZ)

48 Weasel, there is no such thing as too much starch.

PSA brought to you by Wranglers.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:01 PM (TsX0v)

49 White has g3 and then I'm out of position.

Posted by: jsg at September 21, 2019 06:02 PM (LSEYK)

50 Chess girl needs a better hair conditioner.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:03 PM (TsX0v)

51 Chess girl needs a better hair conditioner.
Posted by: Ben Had

Oh.

Ok.

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:05 PM (arJlL)

52 I thought this was America Scotland!
https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/
1175190409636659202

Posted by: andycanuck at September 21, 2019 06:05 PM (Dh1wo)

53 So I ordered some stuff from the Trump online store. On Thursday. It just arrived at my house today! Wow!

Posted by: Boots at September 21, 2019 06:05 PM (oGBso)

54 willow

Article 39 of Magna Carta reads

No free man shall be captured or imprisoned or disseised of his freehold or of his liberties, or of his free customs, or be outlawed or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we proceed against him by force or proceed against him by arms, but by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 06:05 PM (WkaWu)

55 Watching my Cubbies self-destruct.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 21, 2019 05:56 PM

Thought they just went up one run. I can't get the game at lake so no viewing. Not that I'm rooting for them. Come on Cards.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 06:06 PM (gzG43)

56 Where IS Willow ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:06 PM (arJlL)

57 Took me a while- good thing we're not on the clock- but got the beginner problem Feels good. Not as good as stopping at the end of three straight days of push mowing, but close.

Posted by: t-bird at September 21, 2019 06:06 PM (1+J19)

58 Just sent Booker some green stamps

they're still worth sumptin, right ??

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2019 06:08 PM (AQBtr)

59 JT, since she is probably so good at everything else, just a little equalizer.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:08 PM (TsX0v)

60 So, put on a dress and climb the tree and have him take a pic for next week's thread !
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 05:59 PM (arJlL)

LOL

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 06:08 PM (+72t1)

61 Advanced Problem

1. ... Kd4
2. Ke2 Kc3 (otherwise 2 ... Ke3)
3, any Kd3 (white cannot guard the d3 square)

Now the only way to guard e3 is to come to f2 and
then black plays d4 and white must retreat from f2.

If white plays to the 1st rank then black plays Ke3.
Otherwise white must play Ke2 and black can play g3.

Now if white does not play to the first rank then he
must play Kd2 and black plays f3 white plays gxf3
black plays Kxf3 and it is all over.

So we must have black K on e3 and white K on first rank (or white has already lost).

If white has K on e1 then black plays f3 otherwise he plays g3 and wins ... I think.



Posted by: Off the reservation at September 21, 2019 06:11 PM (vWMNq)

62 Drudge was running with a headline of Trump campaign rocked

sent him a detailed email that his website was bs

presto, the headlines down

the power of REDACTED

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2019 06:13 PM (AQBtr)

63 61 Now the only way to guard e3 is to come to f2 and
then black plays d4 and white must retreat from f2.


Black plays Kd4 ... (I corrected several of these before posting).

Posted by: Off the reservation at September 21, 2019 06:15 PM (vWMNq)

64 Ceclile....conditioner.

I see it's been covered.

So we're shallow. So what?

Posted by: eleven at September 21, 2019 06:16 PM (tH5fk)

65 She has nice dimples.

Posted by: eleven at September 21, 2019 06:16 PM (tH5fk)

66 Gonna go get after dinner ice cream with NaughtyPine, Snaillracer & Mr, clutch, & AltonJackson

Have a wonderful thread

Don't wait up

Posted by: hogmartin is at the fall MIMoMe at September 21, 2019 06:17 PM (Cn/Bf)

67 It wasn't that hard for Monty Python to come up with their silliness.

From Wiki:

Cnut the Great, King of England

Reign -1016 - 1035
Coronation - 1017 in London
Predecessor - Edmund Ironside
Successor - Harold Harefoot
...
...
Successor Magnus the Good
...
Died 12 November 1035
Shaftesbury, Dorset, England
Burial
Old Minster, Winchester, England. Bones now in Winchester Cathedral, Winchester, England

Spouse

Ælfgifu of Northampton
Emma of Normandy

Issue

with Ælfgifu
Svein Knutsson
Harold Harefoot
with Emma
Harthacnut
Gunhilda of Denmark

House Jelling dynasty
Father Sweyn Forkbeard
Mother unknown (Świętosława / Sigrid / Gunhild)[1]

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 06:18 PM (WkaWu)

68 So, my tire blows out on the way to work. Get off to the side. Get the car jacked up. Go to get the spare- no tire iron. If the joker's at the shop put it under the spare I will be pissed.

But someone is on their way with a tire iron. I am bored. How are you all doing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 21, 2019 06:19 PM (O47gz)

69

JT, since she is probably so good at everything else, just a little equalizer.
Posted by: Ben Had


him ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0egRzuavDg

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:20 PM (arJlL)

70 Also, the lady from Portugal seems nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 21, 2019 06:20 PM (O47gz)

71 Posted by: Off the reservation at September 21, 2019 06:11 PM (vWMNq)

1...Kd4 is not the move I found, but it seems to work. In fact, I think it's a better move.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 06:21 PM (MH+aB)

72 Ben Had
New poster here longtime lurker. Aren't you the man with the info on the Texas meetup? If so how do I get it? I'm in north Texas

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 06:22 PM (xkudx)

73 Took the concealed carry course/test today. It was fun and I learned a lot. Having lived so long in California, I couldn't get over how happy the instructor was to teach us and get us exercising our right. Now I need to buy something. I think I'll go with the small S&W .380.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 21, 2019 06:22 PM (H8QX8)

74 I thought a tire iron was used to dismount a tire from the wheel. I'm confused.

Posted by: Ronster at September 21, 2019 06:22 PM (CdMUP)

75 Gonna go get after dinner ice cream with NaughtyPine, Snaillracer & Mr, clutch, & AltonJackson

Have a wonderful thread

Don't wait up
Posted by: hogmartin

Have fun and stay safe, all !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:23 PM (arJlL)

76 The spare I'd fixed in the truck by a hex nut that the tire iron fits. Plus, I cannot exactly get the flat tire off right now, either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 21, 2019 06:24 PM (O47gz)

77 xa4. you go to the left side bar and send me an email at that address.

Put you nic in the subject line, please

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:25 PM (TsX0v)

78 Portugal has nice mangos...

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 06:25 PM (+72t1)

79
Ceclile....conditioner.


Like this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwSkAOM-2EY

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:27 PM (arJlL)

80 Ben that's why i was a longtime lurker. What's my nic?

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 06:28 PM (xkudx)

81 xa4 - just saw your response in the coffee thread. You're on the right track with Ben Had.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 06:30 PM (MVjcR)

82 oh joy...

a game i'll never understand and women that would never give me the time of day... unless i was sufficiently wealthy.

guess i'll go outside and do some yard w*rk... or maybe look for the bolts that i need to re-attach the barrel on the Steyr HS.

no fing idea where they went.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 06:30 PM (woiyT)

83 80 Ben that's why i was a longtime lurker. What's my nic?
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 06:28 PM (xkudx)


Nic = nickname. So yours appears to be 'xa4 nasal radiator'.

Welcome to the madhouse, by the way.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 06:31 PM (MH+aB)

84 80 Ben that's why i was a longtime lurker. What's my nic?
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 06:28 PM (xkudx)
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xa4 nasal radiator

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 06:31 PM (MVjcR)

85 I'd say have Ms. Haussernot bathed and perfumed and sent to my chambers, but likely not needed.
OK, just send her.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 06:32 PM (tDzWD)

86 Ben that's why i was a longtime lurker. What's my nic?
xa4 nasal radiator

Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 06:32 PM (S/rwf)

87 Weasel, do I need to go back and look at the coffee thread? I'm sensing a little troll bait here.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:33 PM (TsX0v)

88 Thought they just went up one run. I can't get the game at lake so no viewing. Not that I'm rooting for them. Come on Cards.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 06:06 PM (gzG43)

Cards hit back to back homeruns....Yadi and DeJong.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 06:34 PM (cF8AT)

89 Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 06:28 PM

Should I or not?


Ah, he will find out soon enough

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:34 PM (ZCEU2)

90 Now let's see if Martinez cannot eff it up...

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 06:34 PM (cF8AT)

91 Panhandler, email for you in the am.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:36 PM (TsX0v)

92 Ben Had, I await with great trepidation.

Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 06:37 PM (S/rwf)

93 Skip, bluebell normally does the honors but you will do it just fine.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:37 PM (TsX0v)

94 The shock is better, but get pictures please

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:38 PM (ZCEU2)

95 sorry you feel that way. i'm way behind the curve on this stuff. I can send you my email address if that works.

Just rechecked thanks OregonMuse

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 06:38 PM (xkudx)

96 Looks like he's going to eff it up...

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 06:39 PM (cF8AT)

97 Skip, bluebell normally does the honors but you will do it just fine.
Posted by: Ben Had

Skip's gonna STAB the guy ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:39 PM (arJlL)

98 87 Weasel, do I need to go back and look at the coffee thread? I'm sensing a little troll bait here.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:33 PM (TsX0v)
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I like his nic, so there's that!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 06:40 PM (MVjcR)

99 At the park there is a live band, the IdolKings from up state, a Journey and Mellencamp cover band, pretty good but not my current taste of music.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:41 PM (ZCEU2)

100 guess i'll go outside and do some yard w*rk... or maybe look for the bolts that i need to re-attach the barrel on the Steyr HS.

no fing idea where they went.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 06:30 PM (woiyT)


Light bulb. Last time I hauled my lawn tractor an important looking bolt remained in the bed of the trailer.

I don't remember where I put the bolt. Shdamn.
More bugs.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 06:41 PM (WkaWu)

101 I think I'll get one of those things that runs water up one nostril and out the other. That looks like so much fun.

Posted by: Ronster at September 21, 2019 06:42 PM (CdMUP)

102 xa4, if you email me at the side bar address you will be sending me your email address.

The TX MoMe is a very welcoming affair so let's get this right.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:43 PM (TsX0v)

103 BH - just emailed you.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 06:45 PM (MVjcR)

104 Card's win. Yay. Sorry grammie.

Posted by: Olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 06:46 PM (gzG43)

105 Phew....Martinez pulled it off!

*sneaks off before grammie gets here*

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 06:46 PM (cF8AT)

106 It is to nice out to stay in.
To many Dumbocrates today, at park saw a older idiot with a bad Trump shirt, also only Democrat/ Socialists running for office had booths set up.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:46 PM (ZCEU2)

107 Grouchy, but accurate, old guy who is the Australian version of Rush Limbaugh mocks the kids doing Climate Strike:

https://tinyurl.com/yxdlcndj

Posted by: Hoary Puffleg at September 21, 2019 06:49 PM (j0JAA)

108 I play chess on my phone sometimes, play the computer, at medium level, and almost always lose. So what's my rating?

Posted by: George at September 21, 2019 06:01 PM (az+UZ)


medium rare.

In college, my rating was in the 1500s, but I haven't played in many years. With the advent of chess playing programs, cheating became way too easy.

I did play competitive bridge for a number of years. Those tourneys are a lot of fun.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2019 06:49 PM (Z4rgH)

109 so none of us would have the ghost of a chance

In a lot more ways than one

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)

110 xa4, you just got a plus rating so come on and email me.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:50 PM (TsX0v)

111 Weasel, Thanks.

My inbox is getting filled with a lot of weird things about now.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:51 PM (TsX0v)

112 sneaks off before grammie gets here*
Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 06:46

Prolly not coming back. She'll go into mourning.

Posted by: Olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 06:51 PM (gzG43)

113 Howserknot? I'm speechless.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 06:52 PM (UUkQp)

114 I did play competitive bridge for a number of years. Those tourneys are a lot of fun.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2019 06:49 PM


Contract or duplicate?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 06:55 PM (MH+aB)

115 Howserknot? I'm speechless.
Posted by: Eromero

So, you're without speech ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:56 PM (arJlL)

116 Just got here so this may be old.

Is that Lucille Ball in the first photo?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 21, 2019 06:56 PM (cqNba)

117 Does SE Cupp weigh 300 pounds? It sure looks like it based on watching her show for the last 5 minutes......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at September 21, 2019 06:57 PM (5AVMW)

118 I did play competitive bridge for a number of years. Those tourneys are a lot of fun.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2019 06:49 PM

Contract or duplicate?
Posted by: OregonMuse.

Or Strip Bridge ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 06:57 PM (arJlL)

119 111 Weasel, Thanks.

My inbox is getting filled with a lot of weird things about now.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 06:51 PM (TsX0v)
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Well look who you associate with!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 06:57 PM (MVjcR)

120 that girl in the long white dress is a vampire. I know she is. Don'[t care if she does play chess. She's a vampire. See how she's hiding her teeth?

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 06:58 PM (UUkQp)

121 Maybe 200 showed up for the rushing of Area 51.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:59 PM (ZCEU2)

122
Light bulb. Last time I hauled my lawn tractor an important looking bolt remained in the bed of the trailer.



I don't remember where I put the bolt. Shdamn.

More bugs.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 06:41 PM (WkaWu)

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Eureka! in fussing with the parts, i realized that the bolts are retained in the receiver... and are only visible/palpable when it is upside down.

barrel is now on, and setting of the mount and scope can commence after i get a tatter for dinner, to go with the steak. Herself can be quite picky about such things.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 06:59 PM (woiyT)

123 Contract or duplicate?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 06:55 PM (MH+aB)


Duplicate. They have a rating system too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2019 07:00 PM (Z4rgH)

124 that girl in the long white dress is a vampire. I know she is. Don'[t care if she does play chess. She's a vampire. See how she's hiding her teeth?
Posted by: Eromero

Wouldn't the flowers she was holding wilt, if she were a vampire ?

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:00 PM (arJlL)

125 " Just got here so this may be old.

Is that Lucille Ball in the first photo?"

To be clear....the first photo of a woman in the dress pron section.

Not the chess player.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 21, 2019 07:01 PM (cqNba)

126
76 The spare I'd fixed in the truck by a hex nut that the tire iron fits. Plus, I cannot exactly get the flat tire off right now, either.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at September 21, 2019 06:24 PM (O47gz)

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By tire iron, maybe you mean a jack handle?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 21, 2019 07:01 PM (t5m5e)

127 Ben Had...well hell I put Texas Meetup in the subject line instead of my nic.
Want me to resend it?

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 07:02 PM (xkudx)

128 Eureka! in fussing with the parts, i realized that the bolts are retained in the receiver... and are only visible/palpable when it is upside down.

barrel is now on, and setting of the mount and scope can commence after i get a tatter for dinner, to go with the steak. Herself can be quite picky about such things.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 06:59 PM (woiyT)


Good show. In the country a chain hoist would be hooked up and a good view of the undersides could be had. Not here.

Hmmm. What are tree limbs for?

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 07:04 PM (WkaWu)

129 I played duplicate years ago. Hardly remember how it works. Different tables play identical hands or something.

Posted by: Ronster at September 21, 2019 07:05 PM (CdMUP)

130 JT, those flowers are artificial. They're bait, like jellyworms.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 07:05 PM (UUkQp)

131 By tire iron, maybe you mean a jack handle?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 21, 2019 07:01 PM (t5m5e)

Oh, read it again. Lug wrench?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 21, 2019 07:06 PM (t5m5e)

132 Does SE Cupp weigh 300 pounds? It sure looks like it based on watching her show for the last 5 minutes......



Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at September 21, 2019 06:57 PM (5AVMW)

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well, now that she's married, she doesn't have to worry about her figure...

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 07:07 PM (woiyT)

133 >I think I'll get one of those things that runs water up one nostril and out the other. That looks like so much fun.

If you have a persistent cold then you should try it. The first time I tried it was when I had a cold for a month. My sinus pain went away right away. It feels strange but it is only slightly unpleasant.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 07:08 PM (LxTcq)

134 It would be a darn shame if some weird leak took out Joe Biden and I had to come out of retirement to save the party, huh?

Oh, who am I kidding? that would never happen.

Posted by: Hillary Radium Clinton at September 21, 2019 07:09 PM (Ndje9)

135 Good show. In the country a chain hoist would be hooked up and a good view of the undersides could be had. Not here.



Hmmm. What are tree limbs for?

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 07:04 PM (WkaWu)
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the HS isn't exactly light, but at 28 pounds even myu sorry out of shape ass and pick it up w/o a hoist.

i wouldn't want to have to road march with the bitch though...

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 07:10 PM (woiyT)

136 I'm going to go see the fireworks, didn't see any on the 4th.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 07:11 PM (ZCEU2)

137 If Madison The Cat headbutts my hand while I'm holding this chilled glass of expensive (relatively speaking) bourbon I will scold her. A lot.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 07:12 PM (UUkQp)

138 133 looks like a water boarding torture device, but suspect with my sinus issues it could help.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 07:12 PM (ZCEU2)

139 127 Ben Had...well hell I put Texas Meetup in the subject line instead of my nic.
Want me to resend it?
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 07:02 PM (xkudx)
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OK - he's definitely one of us.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:13 PM (MVjcR)

140 That Portuguese gal with the pretty blue eyes and bountiful bosoms. I likey.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 07:13 PM (HCqAo)

141 Maybe 200 showed up for the rushing of Area 51.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 06:59 PM (ZCEU2)

My people said less than 100 and more like just around 50. The rest were media types.

Posted by: George Noory's moose-stache at September 21, 2019 07:13 PM (vqIkG)

142 Solutions up.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:15 PM (MH+aB)

143 I did play competitive bridge for a number of years. Those tourneys are a lot of fun.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2019 06:49 PM (Z4rgH)


I like the colorful lycra jerseys and helmets they wear.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 07:15 PM (ZYB2s)

144 George Noory is a nut case. I doubt he can tell the difference between 5 and 200.

Posted by: Ronster at September 21, 2019 07:15 PM (CdMUP)

145 The original number that rushed Area 51 was 50. But only 45 were left after the rush. The other 5 are....well....missing.

Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 07:16 PM (UUkQp)

146 That Portuguese gal with the pretty blue eyes and bountiful bosoms. I likey.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 07:13 PM (HCqAo)



I love a woman who's good with vegetation

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 07:17 PM (ZYB2s)

147 Is that Lucille Ball in the first photo?"

To be clear....the first photo of a woman in the dress pron section.

Not the chess player.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 21, 2019 07:01 PM (cqNba)


No. I believe she's a model by the name of Suzy Parker. Her heyday was the 1940s and 50s.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:18 PM (MH+aB)

148 To win at Area 51 the final boss is robot Zuckerberg.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 07:18 PM (LxTcq)

149 Speaking of changing tires, I thought this was cool


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFdFsfSAuyc

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:18 PM (arJlL)

150 Hey, how about a Checkers Thread for us small-brained Morons?
But keep it chesty, please.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 07:21 PM (tDzWD)

151 JT, those flowers are artificial. They're bait, like jellyworms.
Posted by: Eromero

Its a jungle out there !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:22 PM (arJlL)

152
150 Hey, how about a Checkers Thread for us small-brained Morons?
But keep it chesty, please.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 07:21 PM (tDzWD)
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You can play checkers?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

153 Always sacrafice the queen when solving challenges

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2019 07:23 PM (B7KlG)

154 Maybe 200 showed up for the rushing of Area 51.
Posted by: Skip

So, THAT'S where James Monroe is !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:24 PM (arJlL)

155 Checkers. The starting person will always win, if he knows what he is doing.

Posted by: Ronster at September 21, 2019 07:24 PM (CdMUP)

156 Weasel, has any thought been given to brass deflectors for the folks firing gas operated semiautomatics?

Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 07:25 PM (S/rwf)

157 t would be a darn shame if some weird leak took out Joe Biden and I had to come out of retirement to save the party, huh?

Oh, who am I kidding? that would never happen.

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Of course, pianos fall out of skyscrapers all the time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 07:25 PM (+y/Ru)

158 SE Cupp, sounds pornographic.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 07:26 PM (WkaWu)

159 153 Always sacrafice the queen when solving challenges
Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2019 07:23 PM (B7KlG)


I've been trying to avoid the queen sacrifice problems for that reason. But sometimes I forget.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:26 PM (MH+aB)

160 Pitt might actually, maybe, just might, win a big game. They seem to do it once every couple of years.

(time runs out)

WOOT!!! They didn't choke. Good on them! GO PITT!

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 07:28 PM (HCqAo)

161 SE Cupp, sounds pornographic.

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My Cups Runneth Over

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 07:29 PM (+y/Ru)

162 156 Weasel, has any thought been given to brass deflectors for the folks firing gas operated semiautomatics?
Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 07:25 PM (S/rwf)
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No, but we should be far enough apart, I think.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

163 Weasel, has any thought been given to brass deflectors for the folks firing gas operated semiautomatics?

Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 07:25 PM (S/rwf)

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modern style AR type receivers have an integral one.... it's the ramp shaped bump just behind the ejection port.

older style ones do not, but it's only an issue, usually, for left handed shooters,
and it serves them right for doing things the wrong way...


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 07:32 PM (woiyT)

164 Listen to this Australian broadcaster read a message to the climate change Young Pioneers:

https://tinyurl.com/y6mgehm4

"You're selfish, badly educated, virtue-signalling little turds.."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 07:33 PM (kQs4Y)

165 No, but we should be far enough apart, I think.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

---either that or they can hold the gun sideways, so the ejection port faces down...

that should solve the problem.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 07:33 PM (woiyT)

166 What I get excited about is the person to the right of the AR type.

Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 07:34 PM (S/rwf)

167 165 No, but we should be far enough apart, I think.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

---either that or they can hold the gun sideways, so the ejection port faces down...

that should solve the problem.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 07:33 PM (woiyT)
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Or the parties involved can just have a shootout.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

168 xa4 is indeed a Moron. I will publically apologize for any slight, beg forgiveness and buy the first round.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:36 PM (TsX0v)

169 Listen to this Australian broadcaster read a message to the climate change Young Pioneers:

https://tinyurl.com/y6mgehm4

"You're selfish, badly educated, virtue-signalling little turds.."

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Yeah, well, he doesn't stand a chance against Ilhan Omar's summoning circle.

https://bit.ly/2kWmgiQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 07:36 PM (+y/Ru)

170 168 xa4 is indeed a Moron. I will publically apologize for any slight, beg forgiveness and buy the first round.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:36 PM (TsX0v)
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Can't be too careful - he could have been a rooskie spy!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

171 Eris, that was great. They are little turds.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 07:38 PM (BLFnH)

172 My neighbors are having a wedding reception for someone at their house.

It's been almost two weeks since a pool company came and dug a big hole in their backyard....and have not been back since.

I'm sure they're thrilled to have giant mounds of dirt, a muddy hole, and a backhoe and bobcat to look at during the reception.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:38 PM (cF8AT)

173 Can't be too careful - he could have been a rooskie spy!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

I had him pegged as a Ukrainian.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:39 PM (cF8AT)

174 Weasel, He could have been from the young goat inspection board.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:40 PM (TsX0v)

175 Ben Had,
Order placed for green coffee beans that if I do my part right, should cup in the high 80s and low 90s.

I'll be a roastin' fool the few days earlier than the TxMoMe.

How many do you anticipate being around Saturday morning so I can roast enough cofveve for the gang?


(I hope folks like City+ or Full City, any darker roast is of the Devil)

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 07:40 PM (lD3vL)

176 172 My neighbors are having a wedding reception for someone at their house.

It's been almost two weeks since a pool company came and dug a big hole in their backyard....and have not been back since.

I'm sure they're thrilled to have giant mounds of dirt, a muddy hole, and a backhoe and bobcat to look at during the reception.
Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:38 PM (cF8AT)
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Damnit! We had to have ours in a quaint little chapel.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:40 PM (mitVr)

177 174 Weasel, He could have been from the young goat inspection board.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:40 PM (TsX0v)
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Or the Oyster Patrol.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

178 What if those summoning circles muster up ManBearPig?!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 07:41 PM (kQs4Y)

179 No, but we should be far enough apart, I think.

I thought you were entertaining bolts not semi-autos for the distance shooting.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 07:42 PM (lD3vL)

180 @realDonaldTrump 53 minutes ago

"Ukraine Foreign Minister disputes reports of any pressure from Trump. This conversation was long, friendly, and it touched on many questions." @NBCNews Correct. If your looking for something done wrong, just look at the tape of Sleepy Joe. He is being protected by the Media!


Wait...NBC news reported that?! Get outta here.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:42 PM (cF8AT)

181 https://tinyurl.com/y6mgehm4

"You're selfish, badly educated, virtue-signalling little turds.."


"Wake up, grow up, and shut up."

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:42 PM (MH+aB)

182 172 My neighbors are having a wedding reception for someone at their house.

It's been almost two weeks since a pool company came and dug a big hole in their backyard....and have not been back since.

I'm sure they're thrilled to have giant mounds of dirt, a muddy hole, and a backhoe and bobcat to look at during the reception.
Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:38 PM (cF8AT)
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Line it with plastic and make it a ball pit. Have ropes so the guests can climb out.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 07:43 PM (kQs4Y)

183 BB, I don't have a coffee maker worthy of that quality. What do I do?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:43 PM (TsX0v)

184 Or the Oyster Patrol.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:41 PM (MVjcR)


Is that anything like canal duty?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:43 PM (MH+aB)

185 Eris , what's with the relocation?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 07:44 PM (tDzWD)

186 Gardening, pets, chess and dresses. What is this, PBS?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2019 07:44 PM (xUvz+)

187 179 No, but we should be far enough apart, I think.

I thought you were entertaining bolts not semi-autos for the distance shooting.

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That's the idea, but if all somebody has is a semi-auto, we can accommodate them.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:45 PM (mitVr)

188
I take exception to y'all slagging lefthanders--I qualified expert in Basic as a lefty, plus the M14 and 1911A1.
I am one of those naturally right handed but wrong eye dominant, so I've learned to shoot everything both eyes open.
Handguns I can do ambidextrously. But both eyes are still open.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 21, 2019 07:45 PM (KATBx)

189 Weasel, that was a type delete and I went with the goats instead, but like minds for sure.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:46 PM (TsX0v)

190 BB of f'ing joy,
You better bring me at least a kilo... BH has my email so you can let me know how much I owe you.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 21, 2019 07:46 PM (UUBmN)

191 Or the Oyster Patrol.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:41 PM (MVjcR)

Is that anything like canal duty?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:43 PM (MH+aB)
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Same thing, only different.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:46 PM (mitVr)

192 , I don't have a coffee maker worthy of that quality. What do I do?

French Press for the Win. Just need hot water and seven minutes.

I'll bring a few along.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 07:48 PM (lD3vL)

193 But both eyes are still open.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 21, 2019 07:45 PM (KATBx)
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Eyes open? Does that help?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:48 PM (mitVr)

194 Brass flying around you is good training.

Teaches you to pay attention, use of your peripheral vision and how to treat 1st degree burns.

Sack up.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 07:49 PM (Z+IKu)

195 You better bring me at least a kilo... BH has my email so you can let me know how much I owe you.

Just give an honest opinion of it. I know what I like, I don't know what others like until they tell me - and I'm always looking at ways to improve it.

Its sort of like Burning Man without the nudity and drugs. Money doesn't work during TxMoMe.

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 07:51 PM (lD3vL)

196 BB, that would be great to do justice to your coffee.

I fear a Mr. Coffee would sadly fail

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:51 PM (TsX0v)

197 183

Ben Had, I am now on my second Hamilton Beach BrewStation (as I ran the first one into the ground) and it is a good workable unit. $39.99 via AoS AMazon

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 07:52 PM (BiNEL)

198
Teaches you to pay attention, use of your peripheral vision and how to treat 1st degree burns.

Sack up.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 07:49 PM

Lefty here. Had plenty of time at the range where a hot casing found its way down the back of my shirt. I got used to calmly placing my weapon on the bench, safety on, bolt open mag out and then walking over by the range shack screaming obscenities. Why that helps, I'll never know.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2019 07:53 PM (xUvz+)

199 Pixy should make you hash TxMoMe.
She/he could do it.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 07:53 PM (WkaWu)

200 lin-duh, ammo is a currency.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:54 PM (TsX0v)

201
Wait...NBC news reported that?! Get outta here.
Posted by: Tami

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Probably because they're backing Warren.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 07:55 PM (13CQC)

202 I fear a Mr. Coffee would sadly fail
Posted by: Ben Had

You just broke Joe DiMaggio's heart !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUB6LBsveH0

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:55 PM (arJlL)

203 Line it with plastic and make it a ball pit. Have ropes so the guests can climb out.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 07:43 PM (kQs4Y)

Great idea! I wished they had asked me.

Just saw two of the guests standing next to the hole looking in it. "Yup...that's a big hole."

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:56 PM (cF8AT)

204 WE GOT MOVIE SIGN!!!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 21, 2019 07:56 PM (MH+aB)

205 JT, you freaking need to come to TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:57 PM (TsX0v)

206

Are there certain semiautos that fling brass around more than others?

Posted by: irongrampa at September 21, 2019 07:57 PM (KATBx)

207 Are there certain semiautos that fling brass around more than others?
I've got an Italian BM59 that will smack you with a hot 7.62 empty at 20 feet.

Posted by: Panhandler at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (S/rwf)

208 HA ! Fifteen pounds of Guatemala Geisha beans!

None of that cheap second rate Robusto or Arabica beans for the Morons!

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 08:00 PM (lD3vL)

209
Are there certain semiautos that fling brass around more than others?
Posted by: irongrampa at September 21, 2019 07:57 PM (KATBx)
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My Garand sends them about 600 yards, or so it seems.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:00 PM (mitVr)

210 Not sure if being a lefty (shooting, not politically you smartasses) makes it worse but my SKS has sent more than a few rounds down my back. My buddy who also is a southpaw had one casing literally find it's way to perfectly land right on his but crack. I saw him jump up out of my peripheral and was wondering what happened. When I saw him dancing like Michael Jackson on meth and I found out why I laughed for 10 minutes.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 21, 2019 08:03 PM (xUvz+)

211 Ruger Mini 14. Throws brass a mile. And leaves a dent.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 08:04 PM (tDzWD)

212 182
172 My neighbors are having a wedding reception for someone at their house.



It's been almost two weeks since a pool company came and dug a big hole in their backyard....and have not been back since.



I'm sure they're thrilled to have giant mounds of dirt, a muddy hole, and a backhoe and bobcat to look at during the reception.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 07:38 PM (cF8AT)

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Line it with plastic and make it a ball pit. Have ropes so the guests can climb out.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 07:43 PM (kQs4Y)


And a hose.

Posted by: Jame Gumb at September 21, 2019 08:09 PM (Y+IS3)

213 JT, you freaking need to come to TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 07:57 PM (TsX0v)

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what am i, chopped liver?


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 08:15 PM (woiyT)

214 redc1c4, You know the door is always open. I will introduce you to the magic that is mesquite.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 08:18 PM (TsX0v)

215 BB, Wow, when you say the coffee is on you really mean it.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 08:21 PM (TsX0v)

216
Good show. In the country a chain hoist would be hooked up and a good view of the undersides could be had. Not here.


WHOSE undersides????

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 21, 2019 08:33 PM (h7sWp)

217 You know the door is always open. I will introduce you to the magic that is mesquite.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 08:18 PM (TsX0v)

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i'll need to drive if i come... no way TSA will let me fly with the toys i'd be bringing.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 08:40 PM (woiyT)

218 Are there certain semiautos that fling brass around more than others?


Posted by: irongrampa at September 21, 2019 07:57 PM (KATBx)


Mauser Broomhandle.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (h7sWp)

219 BTW, you *did* see my e-mail, right?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (woiyT)

220 redc1c4, did not. please resend.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (TsX0v)

221 you be blind, apparently...

resent

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (woiyT)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

Border Wall

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(H/T KT)


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Welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Kick back and relax.

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A Little of This. A Little of That.

There are plenty of disgusting people in this world. There are also a great number of wonderful people as well.

A puppy who had part of his face blown off after abusers allegedly placed a firecracker in his mouth, has now undergone reconstructive surgery on his jaw.

The one-year-old pup, known as Braveheart, was found in Sonora, Mexico, by an animal rescue team that contacted the Saving Huey Foundation to adopt him following his surgery. The damage caused by the firecracker was so extensive that he now has a prosthetic jaw. Needless to say, he was extremely lucky to survive the attack.


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A cat who attends high school and has his own student ID.

“We tried to keep him as an indoor cat but he refused to stay in,” Amber Marienthal told Good Morning America. Everyone at the school in on board, allowing the cat to roam freely in and out of classrooms. “We have never gotten a complaint,” Marienthal added. “He sat on my lap and took a nap while I was taking my Spanish final,” a student shared.

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How a dog stole an author's heart.H/T Hrothgar

It rained every day for three months, from late fall till spring. I’m sure a weak sun came out once or twice but never long enough to get used to. Mostly it was dank and cold, and the sky was low, like the ceiling of a coal mine, the clouds the color of asphalt. By March the low places ran with muddy water and washed whole lifetimes away, and storms tore up some parts of the South like they were held together with shoeboxes and glue. Things rusted that never had, doors swelled and jammed, and roots of hundred-year-old trees lost their grip in the liquid soil and fell under their own weight. It even caused a kind of moldering in the mind, an absence of optimism, like we had tracked the red mud into our finer nature. I have often heard old people in Alabama pray for rain, but never so hard against it. My mother began to see it as a sign, and it did seem odd, as the weeks slogged by. The weatherman offered no hope, night after night; he might as well have been a cardboard cutout with a fixed, final forecast, and the rains fell, till the end of the world.

Or it might be it all just seemed that way, on the day a good dog died.

The people who discarded her, who threw her away, called her something else, but we never knew that name. We called her Skinny, because she was two dogs high and half a dog wide. She was so lean, so long-legged and light, she seemed to glide without effort or even the pull of gravity when she flashed through the pines and the rocky places up high, running down a deer or just some distant sound, and she would sprint across a mountain to make sure a scent on the breeze presented no threat to her people, her porch, her place. She was just a stray that walked up one day in the yard, part redbone, foxhound, and a dozen other bloods, an old-fashioned, outside, Alabama brown dog that survived abandonment and starvation and bloody battles with coons and coyotes and wild dogs. We fed her and so she became part of the place, for seven years or more, till the hateful combination of a rare tick-borne disease and pneumonia—I blamed the constant cold and damp for that—finally killed her, early on a Sunday afternoon.


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Meet The Pet Morons


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Steve here. Lurker. Occasional poster. Everyday AoS reader and pet portrait artist. I have two images. The first is a portrait I did of Boris, my good buddy, an English Mastiff / Black Lab mix. We had to put him down on August 28. He had nine great years and one crappy last one in which his body just gave up on him. The portrait is based on my last photo of Boris as we waited in our front yard for the vet to arrive. I bawl every time I look at it.

The second image is Beorn, our Bernese Mountain Dog. I took it on a trip to Jackson Hole. The Missus got him up on that rock and as I took the photo people began crowding around me taking shots of their own. Beorn is very photogenic. I can tell he misses his older brother, but is adapting well to “Only Dog” status.

Finally, I’d like to invite any of the Moron Horde in the Spokane / North Idaho area to come say “Hi” at the North Idaho Pet Expo at the Kootenai County fairgrounds on September 28. I’ll have a booth near the main entrance, and will be doing demos all day for my pet portrait business, PetArtWorks.com

Beautiful dogs Steve, sorry to hear about your loss of Boris. Here's hoping for a long life for Beorn.

Horde, Steve painted a portrait of our 3 Setters earlier this year. Gorgeous work. If you get a chance to visit him, you will not be disappointed.


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Open Blogger Weasel submitted a short movie of Weasel Dog.


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Tiny, by gp
Four years ago, I was sitting outside, cleaning the cosmoline out of a Serbian Mauser, when a red tabby kitten walked up to me, so he joined my family of indoor-only cats. Tiny was instantly adopted by my big orange Maine Coon Tom, who spent over a year teaching Tiny how to wrestle. Now Tiny is very sweet on Flash, who joined us last winter. Tiny is a talker, very active and alert, makes funny faces when he hears things, and gives powerful goat-level head-butts. I love my cats so very much, and I worry that they find good homes if anything happens to me. gp

What a cute pose gp and a heartwarming story. Great looking kittehs. Sound like they have quite the household. Thanks for sharing.


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The In-box was pretty empty this week. Don't be shy Horde, you can send your pet related photos, stories, this and that to us here at: petmorons at gmail dot com.

To those who contributed this week, thanks!

Have a great week!!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 03:00 PM




Comments

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1 Foist?

Posted by: MikeyLikey at September 21, 2019 03:02 PM (g/6Yu)

2 Seriously, what kind of monsters do that to a pup?
I guess the same folks that have no issue hacking up rival cartel family members? Hats off to the angels who loved this animal and respected its life.

Posted by: MikeyLikey at September 21, 2019 03:05 PM (g/6Yu)

3 Q. You have 5 dogs and someone else want 2 of them. What do you have left?
A. 5 dogs.
Q. Okay, rephrase, you have 5 dogs and someone tries to take 2 of them forcibly. What do you have?
A. 5 dogs and a dead body.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 21, 2019 03:13 PM (myjNJ)

4
Wish me luck. I take Delilah in for the specialty in an hour. If I don't win with her I have to spend three hours on the drive home listening to Her Majesty tell everything I did wrong.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 03:14 PM (WoNFz)

5 Good luck Hadrian

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 21, 2019 03:16 PM (aA3+G)

6 Guess I've got to work on Conor stories?

Steve, your portrait of Beorn is magnificent and as fitting a tribute to his life with you as could possibly be imagined or desired!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 03:19 PM (BiNEL)

7 Wish me luck. I take Delilah in for the specialty in an hour. If I don't win with her I have to spend three hours on the drive home listening to Her Majesty tell everything I did wrong.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 03:14 PM (WoNFz)


I hear ya bro.
Good Luck.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 03:19 PM (aS1PU)

8
Actually even if I win she'll tell me everything I did wrong, so I may as well relax.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 03:21 PM (WoNFz)

9 Good luck Hadrian, remember, the Horde has you in its thoughts!

And remember the crucial phrase "Yes, dear, you're right about that!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 03:22 PM (BiNEL)

10 That top photo is one of the best combinations of cute and funny I've seem. The pet morons are fabulous as always. I so envy Steve's talent. That painting is great.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 03:25 PM (bmdz3)

11 >>>I bawl every time I look at it.

Golly, I might bawl every time I look at your portrait of Boris. What a lovely tribute.

Posted by: m at September 21, 2019 03:26 PM (hnjoD)

12 Good luck to Hadrian from me and teh kittehs.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 21, 2019 03:26 PM (pPNCa)

13 I will be glad to answer any cat questions... Just ask here or email in.

Posted by: Catman at September 21, 2019 03:27 PM (4HMlb)

14 Good afternoon! Nice portrait of Boris, beautiful photo of Beorn, and I love those orange kitties.

The feral cat what gets fed here when he wants to is getting real cozy. He must feel autumn in the air, and wants to be sure he can keep coming in when it gets cold.

Posted by: April at September 21, 2019 03:28 PM (OX9vb)

15 I am so sorry I won't have a chance to give those Mexican fucks who hurt the puppy all they deserve. It would be good exercise for my imagination.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 03:30 PM (bmdz3)

16 From Bluebird of Bitterness, a link to Henri the French Existentialist Cat's musings about the injustice of having an inept teenage boy as the designated (pet) sitter:

https://tinyurl.com/yyouf8wn

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 21, 2019 03:33 PM (pPNCa)

17 Good luck Hadrian!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 21, 2019 03:34 PM (myjNJ)

18 I wonder if the adult dogs in that top picture are as amused as we are?

Posted by: Chris M at September 21, 2019 03:34 PM (6XZdO)

19 Look at all those beautiful pets! Love the cuddling cats.

My daughter is at Oktoberfest in DC, and said they had a wiener dog race. Imagine a herd of dachshunds trying to run. Made me laugh.

Posted by: bluebell at September 21, 2019 03:35 PM (aXucN)

20 Hadrian, what are the odds that you will hear some variation of "good thing Delilah is a professional"?

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 21, 2019 03:36 PM (myjNJ)

21 Oh, the wonderful people of my childhood neighborhood.
The creepy family drowning the griffin puppies straight from mama (we're usin warm water) graduated to killing kittens with firecrackers in teh butt. The shite I saw before age 9.

Vicious parrot, having et all his unsalted pistachios in shell and fresh red bell pepper is busy shredding newspaper in his large cage.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at September 21, 2019 03:37 PM (BeNPT)

22 Pet abuse stories stir the anger up.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 21, 2019 03:39 PM (aCNZ6)

23 Every time I think my cats are special / unique I read stories of the same 'unique ' loving, humorous behavior . I guess cats are just cool in general.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 03:39 PM (lQSMb)

24 Vicious parrot, having et all his unsalted pistachios in shell and fresh red bell pepper is busy shredding newspaper in his large cage.

At last, a worthwhile use for the NYT! (Actually, it can also be used to line kitteh litter boxes.)

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 21, 2019 03:39 PM (pPNCa)

25 People who hurt animals are one of the reasons I hate people.

Posted by: Chris M at September 21, 2019 03:39 PM (6XZdO)

26 Laughing at the youngsters at the wall. I just can't even imagine the exponential mischief -- at high speed -- that those puppies could wreak on unsuspecting humans. Oh, such cute widdle babies, the gullible would croon.

Hah!

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 21, 2019 03:40 PM (MIKMs)

27 Most serial killers abused animals when they were young.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 03:41 PM (lQSMb)

28 Nice Pets Ya'll!.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 03:45 PM (Z+IKu)

29 Prager often talks about serial killers and other deprived humans that we learn after abused and tortured animals, the thought makes me so mad.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 03:47 PM (ZCEU2)

30 Steve: I love the portrait of Boris. How do I contact you?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 21, 2019 03:47 PM (H8QX8)

31 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 03:48 PM (ZCEU2)

32 she'll tell me everything I did wrong, "

That only happens on days that end with "y"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 21, 2019 03:48 PM (6qErC)

33 Never mind. Just saw your website. Thanks.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 21, 2019 03:48 PM (H8QX8)

34 Border Collies are awesome, but ours was too smart for its own good.

She decided that the rules (don't herd the kids) only were for *inside* and outside was fair game. Otherwise she was a sweet, sweet girl.

We had to return her to the SPCA, sadly, but not only for that. Our youngest daughter is allergic to dog slobber; she would break out everywhere licked.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 21, 2019 03:48 PM (ijEPD)

35 Mammals: 13
Arthropods: 0

*sigh*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 03:50 PM (ZYB2s)

36
Vicious parrot, having et all his unsalted pistachios in shell and fresh red bell pepper is busy shredding newspaper in his large cage.

At last, a worthwhile use for the NYT! (Actually, it can also be used to line kitteh litter boxes.)
Posted by: Basement Cat


Yet another story of animal cruelty.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 03:51 PM (aKsyK)

37 Every week, I'm reminded to send a pic of our two cats in, but I always forget.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 21, 2019 03:52 PM (ijEPD)

38 I keep forgetting to send pics of my puppies, too, Jeff.

Posted by: April at September 21, 2019 03:53 PM (OX9vb)

39 Vicious parrot, having et all his unsalted pistachios in shell and fresh red bell pepper is busy shredding newspaper in his large cage.

At last, a worthwhile use for the NYT! (Actually, it can also be used to line kitteh litter boxes.)

Posted by: Basement Cat


My sister-in-law's in-laws had a parakeet. It *hated* her husband, would bite him every chance it could get.

Go figure the one time we're over at their place, it couldn't get enough of me. I have no idea why, but it was amusing to see my brother-in-law complain about it.

I was afraid it was going to shit on me.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 21, 2019 03:57 PM (ijEPD)

40 The story about Skinny is beautiful and sad.

Posted by: Dr Alice at September 21, 2019 04:01 PM (0+nAd)

41 Happy Pet Thread Day!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:10 PM (TsX0v)

42 m -----> "Golly, I might bawl every time I look at your portrait of Boris. What a lovely tribute."
Thank you. I'm bawling right now!

Posted by: Steve at September 21, 2019 04:13 PM (wi4+w)

43 Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:10 PM (TsX0v)

Never say "Neigh!" When you are given a chance to read the Pet Thread.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 04:13 PM (BiNEL)

44 6
Steve, I got the darn names mixed up and used Beorn when I should have used Boris, but I'm sure you know what I meant. My apologies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 04:17 PM (BiNEL)

45 Hi Hrothgar.

How is my buddy Conor?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:18 PM (TsX0v)

46 Good luck Hadrian, remember, the Horde has you in its thoughts!

And remember the crucial phrase "Yes, dear, you're right about that!"
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 03:22 PM


Don't forget another much Horde-recommended phrase, to wit: "Calm your mammiform protuberances", although I have never actually tried it, and can't testify to its efficacy.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 04:18 PM (DMUuz)

47 Love the orange and red tabbys. My grey tabby is tearing up my leg as I'm reading pet thread. Would trade him for the orange one pictured right now.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 04:22 PM (gzG43)

48 Thank you all for the pictures of your pets. It is relaxing to look at Fuzzy Buddies on a Saturday.

...and thanks again to Misanthropic Humanitarian, as always.

Posted by: Still Awake Slapweasel at September 21, 2019 04:23 PM (Ckg4U)

49 *off, Tired Sock*

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at September 21, 2019 04:23 PM (Ckg4U)

50 I can't think of anything more fun than to lay down in the grass and be part of a puppy pile.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:25 PM (TsX0v)

51 Had to say goodbye to my sweet Gigi on Thursday. Was gonna have to leave her at the vet's and put her through 2 days of invasive tests and blood transfusions with no certainty of outcome. I couldn't do that to her.

Hubby is still crying. Down to one cat, Spike, who is 12 and will be our last furry companion. Too old to take on any new ones who would likely outlive us, plus we just can't do this any more, emotionally.

But I sure have loved them all and their little idiosyncrasies.




Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 04:25 PM (RfzVr)

52 cfo mom, Condolences.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:28 PM (TsX0v)

53 So sorry, cfo mom. Condolences.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 04:28 PM (gzG43)

54 olddog, the project is being printed.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:30 PM (TsX0v)

55 {{{cfo mom}}}

Posted by: Slapweasel, White Enthusiast, Blond at September 21, 2019 04:30 PM (Ckg4U)

56 51 cfo mom

Oh no! So sorry for your loss. May her memory be comforting.

> last flurry companion

I hear you, and I was absolutely certain of that after we lost Kashah.

Now ask me about Dufus .... er ... Maddie.

Posted by: ibguy at September 21, 2019 04:32 PM (EHVbt)

57 Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:18 PM (TsX0v)t

Conor has had a rough week, finished up all his shots in preparation for a kennel visit in October!
I'm hoping he will have no reaction to any of them.

He's snoozing now to recover from a road trip, how are your two pups?

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 04:34 PM (BiNEL)

58 cfo mom, Condolences.

+1. I understand where you're coming from. I'm no longer young, but I plan to give at least one cat a home as long as my health holds out because there are too many pets out there who need homes. If you're worried about outliving a pet, it's not hard to make arrangements with trustworthy friends or a local no-kill shelter just in case.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 21, 2019 04:35 PM (pPNCa)

59 Oh, Ben Had, if I had crystal ball and knew what future holds I'd come to the Mo-Me and pick up myself. Thank you.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 04:38 PM (gzG43)

60 {{{cfo mom}}}

My condolences, doing the right thing doesn't necessarily mean it will feel good, but it sounds like you did the right thing.

"Their candles burn too fast!l ~ garrett

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 04:38 PM (BiNEL)

61 I'm sorry Conor had to go through this. I will have to do something very special for him.

Brody and Jagar are a happy duo.

I'm amazed at having two dogs with the same temperament.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:39 PM (TsX0v)

62 never knew you need entries for the pet thread

will send you pics of my bichons

if I can figure out which one is which

got a nice pic of one but has Mrs. REDACTED in it

is that kosher ??

both have clothes on

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2019 04:41 PM (AQBtr)

63 Thanks for the condolences folks. I may look into a foster program at our local humane society where you take care of cats who need a little TLC/ socialization for a while before they can be adopted.

Not sure though. Hubby certainly can't deal with anymore pain. I think he is getting to a point I have seen with my dad and my fil as they got older and very emotional.

Maybe I'll just go volunteer at the Humane Society. Ours is a "no kill" now, it didn't used to be. I would be real good at giving the kitties some luvin'.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 04:41 PM (RfzVr)

64 Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:39 PM (TsX0v)

So Brody decided not to convince Jagar to run free after all?
Nice to have compatible dogs!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 04:41 PM (BiNEL)

65 Sorry to hear that, cfo mom.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 04:42 PM (MVjcR)

66 ibguy - Dufus? Tell me about that. Has to be story behing that name. LOL.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 04:42 PM (RfzVr)

67 *behind*

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 04:44 PM (RfzVr)

68 Hrothgar, after Jagar having been through three previous homes, you couldn't blow him outta here with a stick of dynamite.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:46 PM (TsX0v)

69 Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:39 PM (TsX0v)

Sounds like a very smart dog that knows he's arrived at his forever home. Good on all three of you!

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 04:48 PM (BiNEL)

70 "Not the least hard thing to bear when they go from us, these quiet friends, is that they carry away with them so many years of our own lives. Yet, if they find warmth therein, who would grudge them those years that they have so guarded? Nothing else of us can they take to lie upon with outstretched paws and chin pressed to the ground; and, whatever they take, be sure they have deserved."
-- John Galsworthy

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 04:49 PM (DMUuz)

71 Dufus? Tell me about that. Has to be story behing that name

It's a better name than "Beto."

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 21, 2019 04:49 PM (pPNCa)

72 Hugs to those who are grieving. The loss is great because they're such a big part of our lives.

That, we can be thankful for.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 21, 2019 04:49 PM (t0Z53)

73 Sympathies, cfo mom. Volunteering at the shelter would be a great move.

Posted by: April at September 21, 2019 04:50 PM (OX9vb)

74 Duncanthrax, that required a Kleenex warning.

How very beautiful

Extra ear scritches for Ace. It's almost been a year.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 04:53 PM (TsX0v)

75 Weaseldog has a great voice! One of our guys howls to the the My Pillow song.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 21, 2019 04:53 PM (t0Z53)

76 66 cfo mom

Heh. Not really, just call her that when she's being particularly annoying/hyper.

Fortunately, that only happens on days ending in 'y', so......

Posted by: ibguy at September 21, 2019 04:58 PM (EHVbt)

77 I will be glad to answer any cat questions... Just ask here or email in.

Posted by: Catman at September 21, 2019 03:27 PM (4HMlb)

Harli has taken to peeing directly on a pee pad. The litter box is kept clean and I'm using the same type of litter as before. Is this a kidney issue?
Cat won't pee outside here, but spends a lot of time outdoors, especially at night, grooving on the scene.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 05:00 PM (NMAzL)

78 75 Weaseldog has a great voice! One of our guys howls to the the My Pillow song.
Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 21, 2019 04:53 PM (t0Z53)
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She's a nut. She starts that whenever something with a siren goes by, and all the other dogs in the neighborhood follow along.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:00 PM (MVjcR)

79 ibguy, I have seen pictures of Maddie and she is epic cuteness.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 05:00 PM (TsX0v)

80 Weasel, WD has her own theme song "Leader of the Pack".

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 05:03 PM (TsX0v)

81 80 Weasel, WD has her own theme song "Leader of the Pack".
Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 05:03 PM (TsX0v)
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That's what she thinks!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:03 PM (MVjcR)

82 Not a good week for kittehs in my world.

My tortie has lost a lot of weight and while the tests show no kidney disease, thyroid, or leukemia, she has to go for an ultrasound later this week to see if there are lesions or something else causing it. She caught a bug which weakened her a bit more this week but she seems to be over that. Hope whatever she has can be treated.

My best friend lost her Manx overnight Wednesday when a blood clot near his heart broke and lodged in his hips while he was using the litter box. He was rushed to the emergency clinic and had to be euthanized.

Hope this week works out better.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 21, 2019 05:04 PM (qAR6u)

83 But will there be "WeaselDog Part Deux, Electric Bowaloo?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 05:05 PM (tDzWD)

84
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 04:49 PM (DMUuz)

Nice Galsworthy quote, but I think I'd have added, something to the effect that "whatever they took, they left far more behind!"

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 21, 2019 05:06 PM (BiNEL)

85 83 But will there be "WeaselDog Part Deux, Electric Bowaloo?
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 05:05 PM (tDzWD)
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I need to get a video of her doing her little happy dance. She has moves!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:06 PM (MVjcR)

86 Also figured out that WD has an official breed name. ChiPin. Chihuahua + Miniature Pinscher.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:08 PM (MVjcR)

87
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson is at the MiMoMe at September 21, 2019 05:09 PM (hlleo)

88 Hey Ya Alton, How's the MoMe?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 05:11 PM (TsX0v)

89 I got a mystery prize at Gordon Biersch. Ten bucks!

I am drinking a pilsner and eating chicken wings.

might see Rambo later.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 05:11 PM (+QOsc)

90
sitting here in Chelsea with clutch, SnailRacer & Mr.SnailRacer, Naughty Pine, & hogmartin

Posted by: AltonJackson is at the MiMoMe at September 21, 2019 05:12 PM (hlleo)

91 sorry to read that cfo. prayers

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 05:13 PM (+QOsc)

92 Hope this week works out better.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 21, 2019 05:04

Prayers for your tortie, kdbabear.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:13 PM (gzG43)

93 She's a nut. She starts that whenever something with a siren goes by, and all the other dogs in the neighborhood follow along.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:00 PM


She managed to get our dogs off the couch and running around barking and howling, on intruder alert.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 05:14 PM (DMUuz)

94 never occurred to me to torture mammals or birds. I did enjoy squashing bugs because, bugs.

not a serial killer. except for bugs.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 05:15 PM (+QOsc)

95 Made it to the lake this weekend. We take both cats with us. Cat #1 doesn't like to travel. Shits and barfs in cage on 2 hour trip to lake. Sometimes he shits before we even leave driveway. Cat #2, the scaredy one, travels well.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:15 PM (gzG43)

96 Top pic: "Hold it...we're missing one. Where's the little trouble-maker?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 05:15 PM (xSo9G)

97 Mis Hum, I just sent one of Max, one of our Siamese, if you please.
And please don't report me to the SPCA. He did survive.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 05:15 PM (tDzWD)

98 AltonJackson. sounds like great time!

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 05:15 PM (TsX0v)

99 93 She's a nut. She starts that whenever something with a siren goes by, and all the other dogs in the neighborhood follow along.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:00 PM

She managed to get our dogs off the couch and running around barking and howling, on intruder alert.


Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 05:14 PM (DMUuz)
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Instigator!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 05:16 PM (MVjcR)

100 might see Rambo later.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo
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I've been practicing a twisted snarl. Keep meaning to fashion a camo headband.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 05:17 PM (xSo9G)

101 My dog gets barking at the strangest things but coyotes were out last night and she slept right through it.

Posted by: Northernlurker at September 21, 2019 05:19 PM (cwv5C)

102 Oh my goodness, I saw "border wall" before the photos loaded on the screen. My heart! I knew it would be a row of 'em, but the photo is cuter than i imagined!

Ok, now to read the rest of the PT.

Posted by: Flyover, lover of dogs at September 21, 2019 05:19 PM (B5K06)

103 Sadly there was information posted recently on Jihadwatch regarding the abuse that American trained dogs are suffering at the hands of their handlers in Jordan. These are working dogs trained to detect bombs. According to the article ince 2007 several of these dogs have died in Jordan from negligence. They are underfed and tick infested. I am pretty appalled that the USA military will continue to train these dogs and send them into a miserable life in Jordan when in fact those dogs already there should be returned to the USA. Is there an organization that could help?

Posted by: Floridachick at September 21, 2019 05:20 PM (5Lqpk)

104 79 Ben Had

That she is, when she's not jumping 4' in the air and nipping at you.

Will send MisHum another, more recent vid.

Posted by: ibguy at September 21, 2019 05:20 PM (EHVbt)

105 Hey everybody.

Ken Levine has a funny blog post up today about bottom-rung celebs who got Hollywood Walk Of Fame stars.

One of them: "Taco Bell Dog"

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:20 PM (L2ZTs)

106 Also, I don't know if this counts for the PET thread, but is this a good place to pick up good horse racing tips?

Just bet 10c on a superfecta at Churchill Downs...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:22 PM (L2ZTs)

107 Bless you all who have given your animal pals the best homes and the best love!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 05:22 PM (mk9aG)

108 At last, a worthwhile use for the NYT! (Actually, it can also be used to line kitteh litter boxes.)
Posted by: Basement Cat

We get free papers from various ethnic markets along with peppers. He poops on tagalog, thai, italian and hadji papers. We keep the hadji papers on top cuz fuckem.

Posted by: adobe juan dont rub eyes after petting kenobe at September 21, 2019 05:23 PM (8gYCR)

109 qdpsteve, never bet on a horse that has a kink in it's tail.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 05:24 PM (TsX0v)

110 Ben Had, thanks!

Last week I learned, never bet on a horse that's already dead...

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:25 PM (L2ZTs)

111 Oh, I also saw a horse at Churchill Downs a few hours ago called... I am NOT joking...

Covfefe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:26 PM (L2ZTs)

112 111 Oh, I also saw a horse at Churchill Downs a few hours ago called... I am NOT joking...

Covfefe.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:26 PM (L2ZTs)

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Heh.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2019 05:26 PM (RU4sa)

113 SHM, it didn't win unfortunately.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

114 Oh wait, Covfefe is racing at Churchill Downs right now.

I'll let you know how it does.

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:28 PM (L2ZTs)

115 We live on a very quiet road, almost to a culdesac. Our fire & rescue enjoy bringing Santa for a loud, slow parade waving visit to every street in the county in Dec.

Every available light & siren on. It is louder in our house than outside.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 21, 2019 05:28 PM (t0Z53)

116 Covfefe won the race!!

It was a heavy favorite though, its odds were 1/9 (meaning you make a dime for every 90c you bet).

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:30 PM (L2ZTs)

117
Last week I learned, never bet on a horse that's already dead...
Posted by: qdpsteve
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Like Greyhounds, if you see one that pisses just before entering the starting gate, bet on them.

Also, never bet on a horse named 'Barack Obama'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 05:32 PM (xSo9G)

118 Mike, NOW you tell me :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:34 PM (L2ZTs)

119 Covfefe won the race!!

It was a heavy favorite though, its odds were 1/9 (meaning you make a dime for every 90c you bet).
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:30 PM (L2ZTs)

qdpsteve, I'll take that as a good omen.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 05:35 PM (tDzWD)

120 RI Red, thanks, me too

Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 05:36 PM (L2ZTs)

121 Nood chess 25 mins ago. didn't see any notice.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 05:45 PM (gzG43)

122 Call me kdkbear... Unfortunately, what the symptoms might point to is FIP. I hope not.. We can discuss.

Posted by: Catman at September 21, 2019 05:54 PM (4HMlb)

123 Thanks, catman - but you should have MisHum remove that number from your post.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 06:27 PM (NMAzL)

124 I've got some errands to run, but may give you a call to discuss this in more detail. My area code is 202, FYI, even though I'm no longer in the DC area.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 06:29 PM (NMAzL)

125 cfo mom: In case you come back to this thread -- The XO and I have the same problem. We're too old to get new pets. We lost our oldest a few weeks back and are left with three senior citizens. Our house is so quiet with two 29 year olds who do very little and three senior citizens who spend most of their time sleeping. A puppy or a kitten would certainly liven the place up, but a puppy or kitten would outlive both of us. When we adopt a furry child, we promise we will be with it to the very, very end.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 21, 2019 07:13 PM (mo1Sv)

126 >>>Captain Josepha Sabin. Yep, wants vs real life.

My son would take Spike if hubby and I croaked off, no question. But just can't go get a new one. Unfair to the cat and unfair to our son.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 10:33 PM (RfzVr)

127 cfo mom: I was threatened by daughter with murder if we went out and restocked because she knows she'll get stuck with what's left over when we shuffle off this mortal coil. Snippy little brat.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at September 22, 2019 02:46 AM (mo1Sv)

Saturday Gardening Thread, September 21 [KT]

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Hello, Gardeners and friends. If you are seeing this thread on Saturday, you are seeing it without KT, who is away from the internet. Why not visit with some other members of The Horde who have garden, puttering, vegetable cookery and nature-related observations and experiences to share? The photo above is from Hrothgar:

Walking Conor Dog through local nursery, when I spied a butterfly, fumbled with my phone/camera and it flew away. As I prepared to put the camera away he reappeared and posed so I got this. Have no idea what the flower or butterfly are, but I was pleased with the picture.

Thanks as always for you work on the blog.

Thanks for the photo, Hrothgar.

The underwings of that butterfly have such intricate markings. Think it is a Painted Lady? Or maybe a Red Admiral? They like dog poop.

What do you think the flower is?

The Edible Garden

Something a little different this week. From Floridachick:

Here is a photo of some of this year's avocados - gift from our one and only avocado tree. The tree is about half as tall as avocado trees eventually get so it is not fully mature. This is the biggest yield ever. I have been taking down from the tree only about 10 to 15 avocados at a time because they all will ripen at once. Husband and I can only eat so many. Absolutely delicious!

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Now we are going to need some guacamole recipes. So we don't have to eat fake taqueria-style guacamole made with calabacitas. How can you make guacamole without avocados? Use the calabacitas for something else. The ones used for fake guacamole in Los Angeles restaurants are perfectly lovely little squashes when small and fresh. They're just not avocados.

Thinking about growing squash next year?

"Calabacita" just means "little squash" or "little pumpkin", and squashes labeled as such vary from market to market. In various parts of Mexico, they like either round or long little squashes (calabacitas largas) in either light or dark green. A medium to dark green round heirloom, also grown in Texas, is called Tatume. Nice summary at the link, with cooking ideas, history, growing information and dramatic photos. The fruit is firm-fleshed. Pick it small to use as a summer squash. They say you can leave it on the vine for winter squash but I have only seen one suggestion that it tastes good as winter squash. Try the little squashes grilled, steamed with onions and butter or pan-fried with other veggies.

The plant is somewhat resistant to squash borer because it is a fast-growing vining type that roots along the ground. Not the bush types of summer squash normally sold in the USA.

Where I live, 'calabacita' means Mexican grey zucchini, which is a creamy color flecked with green. I prefer the similar Mideastern Cousa type, which I think maintains its quality to a somewhat larger size if you miss picking it when it's little. My favorite is Magda Hybrid. Recipe at the link and other cooking ideas in the comments. It looks kind of like an avocado.

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Johnny's compares the quality of Magda to its intriguing yellow and green Zephyr, but Magda is earlier and more productive. Zephyr is lots of fun, though. It has a winter squash in its heritage and lasts late into the season for me. The plant is on the large side for a bush squash. The fruits maintain their quality in the fridge longer than most summer squashes.

Anybody starting a seed list for next year? Picked out summer squashes yet? Any recipes work out well for you this season?

Back to Floridachick:

Bet The Horde could come up with better recipes than guacamole with avocado and butternut squash, too. Though that one is supposed to promote the use of avocados, unlike the fake guacamole.

There is probably another avocado tree in the neighborhood to provide cross-pollination to Floridachick's tree. Something to keep in mind if you are thinking about planting a tree. There are a few tricks to avocado pollination.

...and here is a photo of a few of this year's mangoes from our blessed mango tree.

I honestly do not do a thing to help my mango and avocado tree. They produce their copious fruit all on their own. Such a wonderful gift!

Thank you for the opportunity to share these beauties.

I hear that mangoes are much better when tree-ripened than most of us realize. I don't know much about mango varieties. Anybody?

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Here is the photo of a gorgeous flower growing (wild?) in a neighbour's overgrown front yard. Noticed it while taking my dogs for a walk down a dirt road in Vero Beach.

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We featured some passion flowers last week, too. This one likely has edible fruit if fruit appears. Whether or not it is tasty would depend on what variety it is.

Gardens of The Horde

From Bakersfield, CA

Blake sent the following update:

This is the same crape myrtle I sent you earlier, though, after I cut back all of the branches that were sticking out and were no longer blooming.

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Gorgeous. "Sideshow Bob Myrtle" looked good before, but it's amazing what pruning can do.

From Arizona:

budman sends the following:

One of my favorite succulents, the Pedilanthus macrocarpus. Here in Arizona it's commonly known as the Lady Slipper (because folks think the little red flowers look like slippers) or the Desert Pencil Bush (because the straight green shoots are about the size of a pencil).

This lovely plant grows to about 4' in height and 3' in circumference. It sends out underground shoots and will spread to fill any available space. It does well in the hot desert conditions, but it does give you a lovely "thanks" when it gets a little bit of water.

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This is a perfect location for this plant, I think. Looks like a living sculpture:

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And here's a female hummingbird photo to go with the great hummingbird plant above. Photo taken by Jake Holenhead, in Washington State:

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The plant above has a tropical relative native to parts of Florida, the West Indies and Central America. It can be grown as a houseplant. It was the only Pedilanthus listed in my first Sunset Western Gardening Book. A foot and a half is about tops as a house plant, I guess. Though there are several subspecies, so who knows?

Of course, just when you get used to its name, they change it.

Euphorbia tithymaloides is a perennial succulent spurge. An erect shrub, the plant is also known by the scientific name Pedilanthus tithymaloides. However, the genus Pedilanthus has been submerged into the genus Euphorbia, and is more correctly known by its new name (Euphorbia tithymaloides).

Euphorbia tithymaloides was introduced as a garden plant prior to 1688. The first record of it growing in a garden was in Amsterdam. It is primarily used as an outdoor garden border plant, but certain varieties do well indoors. Because of the plant's toxicity, gardeners are cautioned to wear goggles, gloves, long-sleeved shirts, and long pants. Propagation may be by seed or cutting. Cuttings should be made above a joint, be 5 to 6 inches (13 to 15 cm) long, and planted in sandy, nutrient-rich soil and allowed to root before planting. Cuttings should be made in March - April or June - July, and from the middle or top of the main stem.

Hummingbirds are attracted to the plant's flowers. Cabbage worms are particularly fond of the plant's leaves.

Municipalities have planted Euphorbia tithymaloides in landfills, toxic waste sites, and along roadsides because it is one of the few plants which can thrive in these more difficult environments.

Weird about the cabbage worms. I sincerely doubt that it makes it through the winter in Amsterdam without protection. Maybe they sent cuttings from the Netherlands Antilles every spring or something.

There is a variegated variety that is quite attractive. Says at the link that it grows upright to 8 feet. Most people keep it lower.

Here's a young plant.

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You can tell where they got the "Redbird" names, can't you?

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This plant is attractive in a border or hedge, if you are in the right climate for it. You can see the zigzag pattern of the stems that give it the Devil's Backbone name below.

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Stamp:

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Budman's plant and the one above are related to poinsettias.

From Illinois:

lizabtha sent the following back in June.

Here is Sidonie, from my garden, which I purchased through High Country Roses. Here's its description:

Damask Perpetual (Dorisy, 1846).Very fragrant, medium pink, densely double flowers in summer and autumn. A bushy, 3 to 5 foot plant with long, narrow leaflets, it has the most reliable repeat and continuous bloom of all the Damask Perpetuals.

It made it through the wicked winter weather of northern Illinois with no protection of any sort.

In harsh climates, it is an advantage to have roses grown on their own roots. And about this time of year, it is a good idea to allow the last flowers to remain on the bush to form rose hips. Helps the plant get ready for winter.

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From Washington State

WonderPony sent the following a while ago from his garden near the Snoqualmie River, East of Seattle.

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Lovely flowers for a lovely setting.



If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you want to remain a lurker.

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1 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 01:57 PM (ZCEU2)

2 fifth?

Posted by: firefirefire at September 21, 2019 01:58 PM (LVVMh)

3 I'm ashamed of my garden right now. Next Saturday is clean up and then mum shopping.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 01:59 PM (dUJdY)

4 Nice thread. KT. WonderPony took some great photos. Blake's crape myrtle looks impressive, and Floridachick's avocados look great, but why did she lube them?

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 01:59 PM (o2vOl)

5 Hot peppers are the best thing going now, tomatoes seem to be rotting on the vine more than getting much from them. They get spots which quickly ruin them.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 01:59 PM (ZCEU2)

6 If I put up my cold frame over the peppers I will send it in. Hope would be to extend growing past 1st frost.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 02:01 PM (ZCEU2)

7 >> tomatoes seem to be rotting on the vine more
>> than getting much from them

In SoCal, my San Marzanos are getting ripe and they are delicious. I should have sent KT some pictures, but I'm too busy eating them.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:03 PM (o2vOl)

8 Butterfly...?
But it's on a coneflower also known as echinacea i think

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 21, 2019 02:05 PM (3GN2g)

9 >> What do you think the flower is?

I'm thinking Echinacea angustifolia.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:06 PM (o2vOl)

10 My landlady in Hawaii had avocado, mango, and starfruit trees. Talk about paradise.

The standard mango is heaven, but the absolute best I've had are the smaller, yellow Champagne Mangoes, which peel like a dream and are so flavorful.

As for papayas I like the big football-sized ones from the Philippines that have deep pinkish-orange flesh inside.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 02:06 PM (kQs4Y)

11 Mrs. Grimaldi says the flower looks like a ornamental purple cone flower. Butterfly is red admiral. Expanded by saying "The cone flower looks like a ornamental hybrid. They usually look good for a year or three, but then start to look more like the wild ones again."

Posted by: Grimaldi at September 21, 2019 02:08 PM (tKUm/)

12 Now i'll have to look up all the coneflowers and their botanical designations

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 21, 2019 02:09 PM (3GN2g)

13 >> You can see the zigzag pattern of the stems that
>> give it the Devil's Backbone

I just started reading about them. There are several varieties, and many are xeric. The flowers on Pedilanthus tithymaloides are really eye-catching.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:13 PM (o2vOl)

14 Not at the farmo this weekend. Stuck at home doing chores! Well, A chore. Promised WW I'd scrub the front shutters.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 02:14 PM (MVjcR)

15 Beautiful butterfly is on a coneflower. I bought one for Publius's mother to have on her deck, and I was wondering if you think it will overwinter OK in the pot. we're zone 7 here in upstate SC.

Coneflowers are easy to propagate, and deer don't like them, so I plan to have a lot of them in my garden (we haven't even started to build yet, so I can't get ahead of myself, but I sure do want a head start).

Posted by: Rashida T-labia at September 21, 2019 02:14 PM (NMAzL)

16 Also, my front yard looks like crap. Don't think it's rained here in weeks.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 02:16 PM (MVjcR)

17 I was all geared up with essential oils to try and keep the box elder bug population down this year, and there have been exactly zero so far. I guess I should be thankful, but I did want to see how well it worked. Supposedly thats how they maintain keeping the population down @ Sundance.

Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 02:22 PM (Bf3hj)

18 Lizabtha, those double roses look really good, and are apparently very fragrant. Nice work.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:23 PM (o2vOl)

19 Cover happy weed much here? (void where prohibited?)

Have one stubby little potted cannabis plant as a casual crop for fun because it's legal yay merica. With the turn of season, it's losing all its old leaves but generating many sticky tops.

Always heard it was a good border crop, as bugs & such don't care for it. For all our plant-chewing local bugs, I've seen little evidence of damage. Found a couple of webworms (? some kind of spikey multipede) crawling on it yesterday, but no sign of chewing.

Excuse not sending a pic; posting under deep sock because paranoia still strikes deep.

Posted by: Smokey Bogart at September 21, 2019 02:25 PM (dRfXw)

20 "I hear that mangoes are much better when tree-ripened than most of us realize. I don't know much about mango varieties. Anybody?"
Definitely. Mangoes in the market in Minnesota taste like kerosene. To ship, growers pick them too green. Bananas in the market in Minnesota taste like cardboard.

Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at September 21, 2019 02:28 PM (kD3S+)

21 9 >> What do you think the flower is?

I'm thinking Echinacea angustifolia.
Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:06 PM (o2vOl)

Yes, I agree, I've grown that and it's quite hardy. (commonly called purple coneflower) It's also an important herb for those into herbal medicine, believed to bolster the immune system, prevent colds, and to support good health in general. Supposedly it was a Native American medicinal plant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 02:33 PM (trdmm)

22 17. which essential oils?

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 02:34 PM (knNho)

23 My apples and pears were styrofoam this year. Such a bummer. Perhaps the trees are just too old to produce decent fruit.

The blackberries are going crazy, though. Time to put some in vodka and add some sugar to make a blackberry liqueur for the holidays.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 21, 2019 02:36 PM (PkVlr)

24 I'm ashamed of my garden right now.

...

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 01:59 PM (dUJdY)


If you saw mine, you'd feel infinitely better about yours ...

Posted by: Adriane the Mail Order Writing Course Critic ... at September 21, 2019 02:36 PM (LPnfS)

25 as to the butterfly ID, I called up your links side by side and I go with Red Admiral. Now if you could see the top of the wing it would be simple.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 02:41 PM (trdmm)

26 Also, my front yard looks like crap. Don't think it's rained here in weeks.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 02:16 PM (MVjcR)

Our grass out front is actually crunchy. It's been a terribly dry summer. Upside is that we don't have to mow very often.
The guy across the street has a "competitive" lawn. It's gorgeous. One night I walked across the street, kicked off my flip flops and walked in it barefoot. Lovely and soft, and no fire ants.

Posted by: Rashida T-labia at September 21, 2019 02:41 PM (NMAzL)

27 My little garden has had it. I have a few cherry tomatoes still producing but everything else has gone to seed or hell.

Just as well - I have to dig up a drainage pipe that runs beneath the garden very soon.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 02:41 PM (Y4EXg)

28 Hey, where's the Queen of Botany? KT, are you going to visit before the pet thread?

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:42 PM (o2vOl)

29 >> which essential oils?

Tend to use Castrol and Mobile1 myself. Valvoline is excellent as well.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:43 PM (o2vOl)

30 Not much to report about the garden this week. But looking at today's thread, I noticed just how much variety of shapes and colors can be found in even a small garden. It's lovely to sit and look at on a comfortable day. A suitable beverage and a pipeful of good tobacco completes the image.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 02:43 PM (bmdz3)

31 Oh crap. Off with the T-labia sock. Jeez.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 02:43 PM (NMAzL)

32 >> Now i'll have to look up all the coneflowers and their botanical designations

The wikis are usually pretty decent. Sometimes you get lucky with the growers' sites as well.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:48 PM (o2vOl)

33 >> 31 Oh crap. Off with the T-labia sock. Jeez.

LOL. I was wondering who that was.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:49 PM (o2vOl)

34 31 Oh crap. Off with the T-labia sock. Jeez.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 02:43 PM (NMAzL)

lol! I was wondering, come on, in the garden thread?

I suppose I've always been one who keeps a "competitive lawn". Don't know why, I just like it. I put too much work and water into the St. Augustine to let it die now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 02:49 PM (trdmm)

35 My yard is feral but it is healthy even being in a drought. Indigenous plants help in that respect.
I dont irrigate 'cept the garden in back which goes year round here.

Wish i had 2 or 3 inches of the se texas deluge...

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 21, 2019 02:49 PM (3GN2g)

36 ha, maybe we need a "bad garden" contest. I'd be a contender.


My yellow flowers around the pond are blooming now, I'd have to search back previous years to see what KT told me they are. The deer food plots have turned bright green with the rains and warm weather... mostly purple top turnips and some rye or millet.


The keto diets I've seen love to add avocado for many meals, but most fruits (sugar) are not recommended ... maybe some raspberries are OK. Guess I'll need to grow more broccoli and freeze it.

cheers to the growers ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 02:54 PM (Cus5s)

37 274 I've been a lurker for over two years because I couldn't figure out what my URL was\is. So i took a chance and posted something and it worked. Yes yes I'm a computer genius but I should fit in well with morons here.
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 01:26 PM (xkudx)
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Well I half-assed my way through the shutter scrubbing job. I did four of the six, missing a lot of spots, before deciding the last two on the downhill side of the house were far, far too dangerous for me to attempt with a step ladder. Which means I need to get out an extension ladder, which seems like a lot of work.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 02:55 PM (mitVr)

38 >> I've always been one who keeps a "competitive lawn"

My front lawn looks like Hell. So much grass has died that the Dichondra is actually making a comeback.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 02:55 PM (o2vOl)

39 Shit. Paste fail.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 02:56 PM (mitVr)

40 Just back from our tiny hometown festival. It's more like a social with music and games. One vender selling glorious mums. I didnt buy any since i cannot keep the darn things alive. Just outside the lawnmower shop there were huge fabulous coxcombs. Bright magenta color. I wanted to steal some since the weren't for sale. I have no luck growing those either. Last time I tried was 10 yrs ago. Maybe I should try again.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 21, 2019 02:58 PM (myjNJ)

41 I also managed to soak myself with the hose, so now I'm on the back deck with WD drying out.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 02:59 PM (mitVr)

42 ha, maybe we need a "bad garden" contest. I'd be a contender.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 02:54 PM (Cus5s)
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That's a hell of an idea!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 03:01 PM (MVjcR)

43 40 miles..thank you! It is a spectacular rose, and I am so looking forward to its October bloom. The scent is incredible.

The dog and I just walked around the gardens. What a mess...so much rain, and more to come thanks to the tropical storm that hit Houston so badly.

Posted by: lizabth at September 21, 2019 03:04 PM (L3Rsz)

44 I used to have White Swan coneflowers in NoVA. I think I'll get those to combine with the purple ones. And yeah, I'll end up with a ton because they seed themselves so well. If they get water. And I can't count on rain, apparently.
Next year I want to plant Phase 1 of the garden close enough to water and manage. The semi-drought this summer was very frustrating. And still no rain on the horizon for the next 10 days. Despite that, there are tons of flowers on the cukes, and the tomatoes hare going gangbusters.
Question: if the first frost is expected come the first week of November, when should I start snipping off tomato flowers?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 03:08 PM (NMAzL)

45 42 ... "maybe we need a "bad garden" contest."

There needs to be one rule: We have to be responsible for the bad garden. Weather alone doesn't count. Judging by the state of my garden and comments from others here, there should be plenty of contenders.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 03:08 PM (bmdz3)

46 At the beginning of every autumn, I find myself singing, "I fought the lawn, and the lawn won."

This year is no exception.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at September 21, 2019 03:16 PM (WJcbb)

47 Hey, I need to send KT a picture of my Tiger Lily that isn't. What do you call a plant that only pretends to be a tiger? Cory Booker?

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 03:19 PM (o2vOl)

48 Hey, I need to send KT a picture of my Tiger Lily
that isn't. What do you call a plant that only pretends to be a tiger?
Cory Booker?

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 03:19 PM (o2vOl)

We need political plant names. Weaponize the garden!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 03:21 PM (NMAzL)

49 45 42 ... "maybe we need a "bad garden" contest."

There needs to be one rule: We have to be responsible for the bad garden. Weather alone doesn't count. Judging by the state of my garden and comments from others here, there should be plenty of contenders.
Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 03:08 PM (bmdz3)
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Does neglect and a bad attitude qualify as "responsibility"?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 03:23 PM (mitVr)

50 Is this going to be one of those years with no fall season? Seems warm-ish for September.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 03:27 PM (mitVr)

51 well there was bad weather, and Japanese beetles, and chickens pecking the fruits ... and global warming and TrumpHaters and some repressed childhood experience, and my state is run by the Chicago Mob ... now that I think of it NONE of this is my fault ... I feel better now. This "take responsibility" thing is for the birds. /s

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 03:30 PM (Cus5s)

52 Does neglect and a bad attitude qualify as "responsibility"?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 03:23 PM (mitVr)

Yes. Lack thereof.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 03:31 PM (NMAzL)

53 49 ... "Does neglect and a bad attitude qualify as "responsibility"?"

Well, they sure work for me!

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 03:32 PM (bmdz3)

54 Laziness and procrastination account for most of my garden neglect. Which is why I'm a big fan of perennials. They take care of themselves.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 03:32 PM (NMAzL)

55 as for bad garden contest...neglect is requisite...attitude not so much.

My water bill is thirty or so a month and some of my neighbors are over 300 a month but they got grass and pools!

Never cared much about grass...

But backyard garden is always producing but the varmints are a problem

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 21, 2019 03:35 PM (3GN2g)

56 >> We need political plant names. Weaponize the garden!

It's not every day you get slapped by a Duchess.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 03:39 PM (o2vOl)

57 We haven't had rain in awhile, should go water the few plants still going.
It's like summer today, might be mid 80s full sun. It's our community day, down at park lots of rides and activities to do, live bands, dozens of food vendors. Finally got to climb a rock wall, harder than I thought but made it to the top.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 03:51 PM (ZCEU2)

58 What's a cactus that I can commonly find in garden depts. of places like Walmart that can live indoors without much sunlight?

Posted by: ArthurK at September 21, 2019 04:05 PM (gk/9Q)

59 58 ... "What's a cactus that I can commonly find in garden depts. of places like Walmart that can live indoors without much sunlight?"

Never had any luck with true cacti. If succulants are close enough to a cactus, they might suit you. The light demands are less and the varied shapes are interesting.

Posted by: JTB at September 21, 2019 04:10 PM (bmdz3)

60 Our Home Depot always has some really neat succulents.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at September 21, 2019 04:16 PM (t0Z53)

61 @58 and 59


Was just thinking. .
Go with mother in law tongue. Aka snake plant.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 21, 2019 04:16 PM (myjNJ)

62 From Idaho's Treasure Valley: Serious question for tomato growers - is there an heirloom variety that will do well in 95-100 degree heat during July/August, doesn't have green shoulders, doesn't grow into weird shapes, and doesn't split or crack all the time? Previously, I've tossed most of the Cherokee Purples into the compost - this year, it's most of the 'Black from Tula' crop. I'm to the point of thinking I should just grow boring Big Boy hybrids, and maybe a Sungold, and give up on the heirlooms...

In other news - still harvesting a few zucchini, though the powdery mildew on the leaves, and cooler temperatures, are slowing them down. Also still harvesting our pickling cucumbers. The red raspberries are still producing but just don't taste the way they do at their height, so we'll freeze them, and turn them into juice for jelly later. Most of the bush green beans seem done - I'm mostly finding the big ugly ones that hide at the bottoms of the plants, now.

Harvesting tomatoes - finally got a few Romas, but there's not going to be much of a crop. The temperatures have really dropped, about 50 F at night and 65 at most during the day. We're getting enough Big Boys to keep us in salads, plus a small number of Blacks.

I did spot a hummingbird several times this week - still waiting to see when they'll migrate. Those scarlet sage aren't going to be there all winter... That flower garden has produced some nice larkspur, and any plant whose seed head is outside the edges of the raised bed, is fair game for me to collect. I can re-seed quite a few larkspurs now, if they don't re-seed on their own. (I've also decided which types of flowers I'll pull out next year, since I thought they were ugly and I never saw any hummingbird pay attention to them.)

Cantaloupes, some of those got damaged badly by some nibbling critter (though I've cut up and frozen some that didn't get damaged). Come leaf drop time, we're going to be severely trimming the back apple tree branches (since so many of them broke off...), and then looking for all the critter holes everywhere around the back yard and doing some serious poisoning (we know there are plenty of critter-holes deep under that tree).

Under puttering, I've done some trimming back of unruly flowers, and dug up some chamomile plants in an area I don't want them in. Husband's been working on the irrigation. We'll need an unused zone re-commissioned to feed the future orchard, so he's finding the risers. And one riser we've been using for drip irrigation, has been leaking, so he's had to dig that up, locate the leak, then go get parts for repairs.

Posted by: Pat* at September 21, 2019 04:20 PM (2pX/F)

63 It's not every day you get slapped by a Duchess.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 03:39 PM (o2vOl)

Elevated, darling! Elevated.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 21, 2019 04:34 PM (NMAzL)

64 Finally the Central Valley is cool enough to plant the fall garden. SO tomorrow will be a full on clean up and planting leafy greens, daikon/radishes and winter cabbage-y things. But today I have a big ole pot of Southern style green beans, baby potatoes and bacon stewing on the stove.

I still have eggplants, a late summer cuke and half a dozen tomato plants chugging along...oh a one very determined purple snake bean.

After attending the Baker Creek Heirloom extravaganza in Santa Rosa last week, I've decided to grow mostly heirloom tomatoes next year. I gotta have as many of Brad Gates' varieties as I can fit in. I mean look at these beauties (they were even better in the flesh and very tasty).

https://www.rareseeds.com/store/vegetables/tomatoes/wild-boar-farms/

Shanks

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at September 21, 2019 04:40 PM (TdCQk)

65 (I'm not sure how many URLs one can drop in a comment before the spam trap kicks in, so I added this separately)

Speaking of Echinacea, I picked up three Redbeckia Echinacea hybrids at Home Depot yesterday. They are gorgeous in autumn toned pots and later will find a home in a bed of various colors of lavender, Gaillardia, Sicilian oregano and garlic chives.

https://www.perennials.com/plants/echibeckia-summerina-yellow.html

Shanks

Posted by: Shanks for the memory at September 21, 2019 04:53 PM (TdCQk)

66 Not a spam trap, just blows the margins to Hell for phone viewers.
Shorter url than the text being seen works IMO, and haven't blown a margin in a year and half and link half dozen a day.
For long url try this >
https://tinyurl.com/

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 05:14 PM (ZCEU2)

67 Gave a neighbor a cutting of Lady Slipper last year. Saw her this morning and she said how well her plant is doing and that she went to trim it the other day and she made a cut and the white sap from the plant squirted in her eye. She was rolling around on the ground crying in agony. Had to go to the eye doctor. I had warned her when I gave her the cutting, people have said that the sap can cause temporary blindness if you get it in your eye. She didn't get that but it hurt like hell. I guess I never cut mine, just let them be.

Posted by: Wee Kreek Farm Girl at September 21, 2019 06:06 PM (spBV6)

68 > 61 @58 and 59

Was just thinking. .
Go with mother in law tongue. Aka snake plant.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench)

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Just looked it up. that's a good looking plant!

Posted by: ArthurK at September 21, 2019 06:52 PM (gk/9Q)

69 regarding mother-in-law's tongue plants
Seems like in the Midwest in the sixties and seventies, I saw those everywhere. I think they were used a lot in businesses public places churches because you could stick them in a corner and just neglect them and they would never die. LOL

Posted by: Farmer posting from stupid smartphone at September 21, 2019 07:25 PM (EeVWu)

70 Pat, as per usual, thank you for the update!

Posted by: blake - used road trip salesman at September 21, 2019 08:16 PM (njJCo)

71 4 Nice thread. KT. WonderPony took some great photos. Blake's crape myrtle looks impressive, and Floridachick's avocados look great, but why did she lube them?
Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 01:59 PM (o2vOl)

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Thank you for the compliment!

I have some neighbors who have some even more impressive myrtles!

Posted by: blake - used road trip salesman at September 21, 2019 08:18 PM (njJCo)

72 Those look like Hayden Mangos. They have a sweet, pine flavor when properly ripened.

Posted by: wayne at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (l+ENQ)

73 I sure do miss my neighbors avocado tree and the other neighbors lemon tree. Hubby wants to build a greenhouse just for the lemons (zone 6a here).
My San Marzano's were ripening quite nicely and I was able to can several quarts. But now that the weather has cooled I've taken to putting them in boxes in the garage with an apple in each box. It's really gotten the semi-ripe ones to completely ripen.
And I'm ashamed to admit, I've never eaten a mango. Or a papaya for that matter. Maybe next time I'm in a tropical paradise when it's snowing here.

Posted by: S.Lynn at September 21, 2019 10:21 PM (oYThS)

Jury Duty (and Open Thread) [KT]

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The history of jury duty

Why exactly are people randomly picked to serve on a jury? Wouldn't it be better to let legal experts decide important court cases, and not a dozen random strangers? Who came up with this system, anyway?

The answer to that last question, like most, is the ancient Greeks. In the groundbreaking Athenian democracy created in 507 B.C.E., all court cases were decided directly by the people. Huge juries of 500 people or more were selected every day from a pool of roughly 40,000 adult male citizens to rule on everything from murder cases to neighborly squabbles. . .

A jury of 500 sounds a little unwieldy to me. What do you imagine that was like?

The Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution both emphasized the importance of juries.

"Why" could be a good topic for the comments.

Today, U.S. federal law states that juries must be "selected at random from a fair cross section of the community ... wherein the court convenes." Hence the computer-selected names from a list of registered voters and licensed drivers. The law further states that "all citizens shall have the opportunity to be considered for service ... and shall have an obligation to serve as jurors when summoned for that purpose" . . .

These two components of the U.S. jury system -- randomness and compulsory service -- combine to ensure that a jury is a representative sample of the community regardless of race, gender, political affiliation or ability to weasel out of jury duty.

My recent jury service

I was recently summoned to jury duty. I noticed a few changes from prior experiences, based on government ineptitude, mostly. I think. Maybe there are other factors. I wondered what the experiences of others were like. I started thinking about whether our jury system was serving the country well.

My first problem in my recent jury service was getting into the jury assembly room. A while ago, the county built a fancy new court building far removed from parking other than its own parking lot, which is inadequate on the days people are summoned to serve on juries. Mostly on Mondays. And it isn't easy to arrange transportation if you don't drive by yourself because you don't know how long you will be there.

The court is not real strict now about people showing up on time, which was a big deal in the past. Probably because you now have to figure out where to park, somewhere roughly a half a mile away or more, if you didn't arrive half an hour early. They don't give you any clues about the parking situation when you are summoned. "No Juror Parking" signs are posted at the jail, which is a little hike from the court building, but closer than other county parking. Once everyone was inside the jury assembly room, we were told not to park on private property. A little late for those kinds of instructions, don't you think?

Speaking of "late", even though many people show up half an hour early or more, the county doesn't start processing them through the worse-than-airport security screens until about the time people are due in the jury assembly room. So there are still people lined up around two sides of the building when everybody is supposed to be in the jury assembly room. They hire outside private security even though they have bailiffs for the courts, to herd people before they enter the building and through the security screens.

An hour and a quarter after reporting time, following computerized sign-in, they began reading lists of names assigned to various courtrooms. Bailiffs escorted these large groups of people out of the jury assembly room. There were vending machines for food and drink, restricted to a tiny snack area of the jury assembly room. Items seemed to come only in giant sizes so you would have to throw part of your snack away if you were called up to a courtroom.

I was in a group that was to wait for a specific courtroom, but a bailiff did not appear before lunch. Another group had already been called to that courtroom. Other groups were called and led away to other courtrooms after my group was specified. Very confusing. I counted about 60 people in one of the other groups. I think there were more. Seems like a lot for one trial.

After lunch, I noticed that not enough people had been dismissed during the morning to allow those who had a good chance of being chosen for a trial to find a place to park in the court parking lot, unless they drove hybrid or electric vehicles. Several people in my group, still assigned to the jury assembly room, did not return from lunch. Uh-oh.

My group was dismissed a couple of hours later. I have no idea what was originally planned for that little group that remained in the jury assembly room after lunch. I was kind of relieved, because the last time I was called in, I was dismissed from a regular trial only to be chosen for a grand jury late in the day. But my recent experience was more bewildering than fulfilling or satisfying.

How does my experience compare to yours?

I wondered why procedures seemed clunkier in the fancy, spacious new building with the inadequate parking lot than they had been in the old, cramped building. They had security screens there, too. Not quite as extensive. Is it just because of government that things are worse now?

At least they have changed the law in California so you don't have to call in for a week if you are not chosen for a trial the first day.

Some places are trying to make the juror experience more pleasant. Pierce County, Washington has tried to add elements of a staycation to the juror experience. One judge thinks that characterization is disrespectful. Incidentally, 220 jurors were brought in for three serious criminal trials not long afterward. That's a lot of potential jurors.

Voir Dire and related issues

I also wondered about the large number of people in the jury pools as I sat in the jury assembly room. I don't think there were any spectacular trials expected that week. The guys sitting on either side of me seemed OK. One person near me in line outside the building I would not have wanted on a jury. Are we going overboard in allowing attorneys to select jurors for desired outcomes? Years ago, I was seated in a jury box before any questions were asked of jurors. There were not a lot of other potential jurors in the room. (The case was settled, so I didn't hear it).

For the trial of the Dallas cop who shot the black guy in his apartment (thinking it was her apartment), 4,000 jury summons went out. Starts to sound like ancient Athens. But these potential jurors were not called in to form a jury of 500 people. I was in the jury pool for an attempted murder case once. It was certainly no where near that big, even though the victim almost died and there were serious possibilities of bias in either direction due to related criminal activity by both the victim and defendant. I really thought I might be chosen for that jury. I think jury pools are bigger now, just in general. What do you think?

Ace brought up another form of "jury selection" in a post about McCabe:

I don't believe anyone has ever authorized a change of venue based on the fact of very high partisan bias. So liberal politicos will always be tried in liberal areas, and they'll almost always be acquitted by Susan McDougal-style juries.

And here's a good question: If our leftwing alleged fellow citizens will no longer do their duty as jurors and render verdicts in cases based on the facts rather than on tribal loyalties, do we really have a country any longer?


Titania McGrath
knows how to simplify jury duty:

I've just been summoned for jury duty. To save time, I've emailed them my verdict:

Person of colour = innocent
White = guilty

So much easier than actually turning up...

Psychology and Juries

On a more general note, both perpetrators and the general public are less inclined now than in the past to assume that criminals are responsible for criminal behavior. Murderers don't say "I stabbed him", now they say the knife went in. A similar attitude shows up in all sorts of ways in our lives now. Airplanes took aim at the World Trade Center according to that tweet from the NYT, for example.

People have less appreciation for the connection between freedom and responsibility. And then there are the psychological manipulations which are common in the courtroom now - changing the focus to the defendant's childhood and such. How do you think these changes have affected the jury system?

Things have changed in our society just since this song was a hit, which was before I knew what a hit song was, but not all that long ago for a civilization. It's not that people are never shamed by society anymore. It's that they are now often shamed and expected to accept responsibility more as representatives of groups, and sometimes for ways of thinking, than for specific criminal acts:

On the other hand, Glenn Reynolds pays a lot of attention to prosecutorial misconduct (including that by people like Kamala Harris) and the protection of prosecutorial misconduct in our criminal justice system. Though this protection is not always foolproof.

And perhaps judges, law enforcement officials and prosecutors should not profit from cases that come before them. Which brings us back to some of the reasons we have juries.

I guess I should put this up, too.

What have your jury experiences been like? Have you read about a jury that made an impression on you? Hope you have a great, jury-free weekend. Got anything planned?

NOTE: This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2019 10:48 AM (dgc3h)

2 "built a fancy new court building far removed from parking other than its own parking lot"

That's because you, the plebeian are expected to take the bus, while the elites drive. You know, to save the erf and whatnot.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 21, 2019 10:50 AM (FiUMj)

3

Can 500 jurors reach a unanimous decision?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 10:51 AM (aKsyK)

4 You would need 125 stools in order to seat the jury.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2019 10:52 AM (dgc3h)

5 FACEBOOK DECLARES IT'S A 'PUBLISHER,' CAN CENSOR WHOMEVER IT WANTS...

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So it can be sued for defamation?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 10:52 AM (+y/Ru)

6 I saw a discussion of posses the other day. Apparently 46 states still have laws on the books that can force you to join a posse.

As one person commented, "Think of it as jury duty, but with guns."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 21, 2019 10:54 AM (9xVRr)

7 Soggy morning. Monsoon rains. Coffee on the porch.

Posted by: None shall pass at September 21, 2019 10:54 AM (JdcHc)

8 > So it can be sued for defamation?

Likewise for copyright violation.

I don't think their lawyers really thought this one through.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 21, 2019 10:55 AM (9xVRr)

9 Can 500 jurors reach a unanimous decision?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot

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I think we can unanimously agree to a big, fat - NO!

Wait a minute. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 10:55 AM (Y4EXg)

10 5: sounds like it

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2019 10:56 AM (dgc3h)

11 Twelve Angry Men has a great cast and good performances (St. Fonda notwithstanding), but it winds up with so many miraculous revelations and co-incidences that it's harder and harder to put up with the more times you see it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 21, 2019 10:57 AM (oVJmc)

12 the plebeian are expected to take the bus, while the elites drive. You know, to save the erf and whatnot."

That and you don't want "regular" folk on juries... might lead to badthink and all that...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 21, 2019 10:57 AM (6qErC)

13 Until a "jury duty" notice arrives by registered mail,
it never happened.

A resident at this address 25 years ago,
before I bought the place, still gets jury notices here.

They don't know if I am even alive...

Yes. Public Duty Shirker. that's me.
I have better things to do with my time
than participate in the legal charade of justice.

Posted by: retropox at September 21, 2019 10:58 AM (i8uro)

14 I've had jury duty three times, twice for my county and once for Federal court. Each time, I was dismissed without ever being interviewed because they had enough jurors for the cases. One time, the jury pool was dismissed because all of the cases plea bargained rather than go to trial.

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 10:59 AM (sdi6R)

15 If I am ever on a federal jury it's not guilty from me. Fuck you Deep State.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 21, 2019 11:00 AM (FiUMj)

16 I have not been called for Jury duty in about 25 years.. I have no idea why..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 21, 2019 11:01 AM (438dO)

17 So it can be sued for defamation? 

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 10:52 AM (+y/Ru)

********

Hahahahahaha

Posted by: Twatter, Instaface, Gaggle, Pintercrap at September 21, 2019 11:02 AM (flINI)

18 Back in the early eighties, I worked in a shop where we were forced union conscripts. One of the young guys was bitching up a storm about getting selected for jury duty, and that was the last time he would ever register to vote. Somehow, and there are people here who know the procedure, he gets on a Fed grand jury. This was, like I said, in the early eighties, and the feds were busting the mob heavy in Youngstown and Cleveland. The kid gets sequestered in a hotel, does his thing, and thanks to the union contract that drove out the plant, gets paid his jury money plus average daily pay based on incentive. This went on for many weeks, and the kid became a patriot, always registering to vote.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 21, 2019 11:02 AM (C1Lsn)

19 Had it once probably 20 years ago, thought it was a good civic duty experience, it was a personal injury jury and was foreman.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 11:04 AM (ZCEU2)

20 Lurking Lurker:

right on, right on, RIGHT ON!

I'm going to judge someone based on some FBI guy's notes,
of what **he says** the accused said?

The FBI? After the revelations of last two years?

Nope.

Posted by: retropox at September 21, 2019 11:05 AM (i8uro)

21 >>>A jury of 500 sounds a little unwieldy to me. What do you imagine that was like?

The Magna Carta and the U.S. Constitution both emphasized the importance of juries.

"Why" could be a good topic for the comments.

++++++++++++++++++++


Because thousands of years ago 'they' realized that 500 randum people from the phone book were more objective and less subject to corruption than any prosecutor or judge.

You would think Chief Justice Roberts would acknowledge that.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 21, 2019 11:05 AM (1g7ch)

22 I went to traffic court not long ago. It was in a small town, which sucked for me as it was a 90 min drive each way but well worth it to avoid a massive insurance hike. I got the infraction dropped in half. Woo hoo!!

Anyway it was a small town and traffic court is mixed with regular court. So I was on the same docket as assault cases, DUis, speeding, B&E, etc. It was a motley crue of defendants sitting there together.

About 1/2 the people didn't even show up, which ended up with bench warrants issued.

Gave a look into a slice of America I never really see. Pathetic, sad looking people, whose lives fucking suck.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 21, 2019 11:05 AM (FiUMj)

23 Having a post-graduate degree will largely get you excused from actually being on a jury for a trial. That has been my experience during voir dire.

I wonder if the system would work better if the prosecution and defense didn't get peremptory strikes, but had to cite cause to strike a potential juror.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:06 AM (m45I2)

24 Didn't get called last time I got a JD notice because B'Gal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 21, 2019 11:06 AM (HaL55)

25 Where does Nadler buy his pants?

Posted by: Doggfish at September 21, 2019 11:07 AM (lMn1U)

26 3 Can 500 jurors reach a unanimous decision?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 10:51 AM (aKsyK)

Can one feminist reach a unanimous decision?

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2019 11:08 AM (ABjxW)

27 I'm in CA, when called to serve on a jury I tell the judge,
given the state itself through it's sanctuary laws and policies is an accomplice in every crime committed by any illegal alien in the state, including but not limited to identity theft, welfare fraud, human trafficking, drug smuggling, sexual assaults, assault, vehicular manslaughter and homicide, I can not in good faith convict anyone of anything.

Posted by: You're in Hell, the world ended at September 21, 2019 11:08 AM (ETNDZ)

28 >>Where does Nadler buy his pants?
Posted by: Doggfish


Call us, we do custom work.

Posted by: Acme Circus Tents at September 21, 2019 11:09 AM (2cuLk)

29 Where does Nadler buy his pants?
Posted by: Doggfish

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Goodyear Aerospace - I think they still have a contract agreement with the Luftschiffbau Zeppelin Company.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 11:10 AM (Y4EXg)

30 26 3 Can 500 jurors reach a unanimous decision?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 10:51 AM (aKsyK)

Can one feminist reach a unanimous decision?
Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2019 11:08 AM (ABjxW)


THAT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE XHE WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT FUNNY.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 21, 2019 11:10 AM (ABjxW)

31 Every time (in the past 20+ yrs), when I've been called up for jury duty, I've been "voir dire'd" out of the jury pool... they were all criminal (vs civil) trials, and oddly ;p, defense lawyers don't seem to be keen on jurors who have experienced crime first-hand.

Go figure...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at September 21, 2019 11:10 AM (W+kMI)

32 Where does Nadler buy his pants?


******

Windjammer Cruises™ Big & Tall Spinnaker Shop

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:10 AM (m45I2)

33 Just call up all of us old guys. That's lottery, dog track, and early bird special money for free!

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 21, 2019 11:10 AM (C1Lsn)

34 Two other times since had a shot at having to go but in this county there is a day before you find out calling in or on line if you have to go and didn't have to report.
Last year had Federal grand jury pool but didn't get picked, it sounded like a prison sentence having to go 1 day a week for 2 years. Out of the pool groups got called and 5 would get put of it, out of the next 5, 3 more got out and kept going until they had the number needed. Only wondered if I had a good chance of working 5 days including Saturday and jury duty 1 day a week.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 11:11 AM (ZCEU2)

35 18 Back in the early eighties, I worked in a shop where we were forced union conscripts. One of the young guys was bitching up a storm about getting selected for jury duty, and that was the last time he would ever register to vote.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 21, 2019 11:02 AM (C1Lsn)


One of the times when I was called, they had a judge come out to speak to the jury pool about civic duty, etc. She said that if you think you can escape by not registering to vote, think again, because we also select from the driver registration lists.

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 11:11 AM (sdi6R)

36 Back in the early 90s, I was defendant in an alcohol related offense with a jury trial. An elderly black gentleman wearing a silk jacket with the name of a local bar was called up. He admitted to needing a few drinks daily, and saw that as normal. My attorney was already scratching his name off when the prosecutor said she'd accept him. When the jury left the room, the judge asked what she was thinking. The prosecutor, a young black lady, smugly said, "Maybe I know something you don't". All I know was I was acquitted.

Posted by: JonasGrumby at September 21, 2019 11:11 AM (bazIK)

37 Over the years I've probably ignored six or seven jury summonses. I happen to know that in my jurisdiction nothing is done to enforce them, so it's a freebie.

Over the same period I've tried about 25 jury trials. I guess that makes me kind of a hypocrite. But the reality is that I would never be accepted for a jury panel because no lawyer would have another trial lawyer in the box.

That's how I justify it, anyway.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 11:12 AM (ZYB2s)

38 8 > So it can be sued for defamation?

Likewise for copyright violation.

I don't think their lawyers really thought this one through.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 21, 2019 10:55 AM (9xVRr)

They have other lawyers who will argue that they are like a common carrier and not responsible for what users post.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 21, 2019 11:12 AM (KaupC)

39 "What have your jury experiences been like?"

I sit in a room with 200 people for four hours. Then they send us all home. Twice so far.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:13 AM (mk9aG)

40 "Having a post-graduate degree will largely get you excused from actually being on a jury for a trial." Muldoon

That's some solace.
I'll cite my doctorate in molecular genetics,
announce that any evidence other than full-coverage
whole genome DNA evidence will get a "not guilty" vote from me,
and go home. After wasting a day.

But only if summoned in person.
"We sent you a letter" ..never happened.

Posted by: retropox at September 21, 2019 11:13 AM (i8uro)

41 Being a vet seems to be a silver bullet for not getting jury duty, at least in WA. Never been summoned.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 21, 2019 11:14 AM (jYnPD)

42 I was in voir dire with a big local auto dealer owner. When he heard that the case was a he-said/she-said fender bender civil lawsuit, he told the judge there was no way he could be impartial because he is sued all the time for nitpicky bullshit. Judge dismissed him as soon as he finished saying that. We all got a chuckle out of that.

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2019 11:14 AM (ABjxW)

43 Speaking about problematic jury pools, here's the FB link to MIchael Yon's live-feed journalism from HK

https://tinyurl.com/y4h49xt6

Apparently the HK'ers are unhappy with businesses knuckling under to the Central govt; and, unsurprisingly, the HK police are making things worst .

Posted by: CPT. Charles at September 21, 2019 11:14 AM (W+kMI)

44 Ah. The all important first coffee of the morning.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:14 AM (jEgzt)

45 The trial I was picked I was the very first person picked, juror #1, was told somewhere during that my chances getting tossed by either side was 0.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 11:14 AM (ZCEU2)

46 I like Twelve Angry Men as much as the next movie buff. But I figure that the kid they acquitted went on to a violent crime career that cost innocent lives. Should have convicted the kid, nipped the bud.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:15 AM (mk9aG)

47 As Joe Biden might say, "Criminals deserve a trial by a jury of their peers as much as white people do!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:15 AM (m45I2)

48 Can one feminist reach a unanimous decision?"

Snort

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 21, 2019 11:15 AM (6qErC)

49
I've been called 3 times for jury duty, first 2 times when they ask you for some background (who you are, what you do, etc.)When I mentioned being a Vietnam vet, I got dismissed immediately.
3rd time ended with the defendant pleading guilty to the charges.

I don't mind being called, really, you get a look at some prize specimens.

Posted by: irongampa at September 21, 2019 11:15 AM (KATBx)

50 Every few years I get summoned for jury duty multiple times in a single year. Record was 5 times. I've only actually had to appear once. All the other times the case was either plea bargained or received a continuation.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at September 21, 2019 11:15 AM (l7Kbv)

51 I've never been called for jury duty. My wife has, a couple of times, but I don't think she ever actually went in. They just gave her a number to call in the morning, and they would let her know if she needed to come in.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 11:16 AM (CAJOC)

52 I've seen too many unbelievable , illogical jury decisions to have any confidence in that system. That said I don't know if allowing a panel of judges / experts render a verdict would be any better.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:18 AM (2DOZq)

53 Once our jury pool was called to a courtroom for a trial and after we got off the elevator and into the courtroom, the judge said they had just settled while we were on the way up. We got our checks and were able to leave. Judges say the jury call is a great motivator for a plea deal.

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2019 11:18 AM (ABjxW)

54

I never saw the 1997 version of 12 Angry Men.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118528

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 11:18 AM (aKsyK)

55 "Can one feminist reach a unanimous decision?" Yes, but she'll change her mind three times before Sunday.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:18 AM (mk9aG)

56 I had jury duty once many years ago. The start was like you describe, when we were finally empaneled the trial was a civil trial. Some guy suing Audi about his car. The complaining attorney started his opening statement and made some mildly disparaging comment about Audi, I don't recall what. That was it, we were dismissed.
Got stuck in a second panel this for DUI. Some school teacher. She claimed they went to a restaurant around 6 PM and left around 11. She also insisted they didn't sit around drinking. She failed the breath-o-meter and the field check. So we got to the jury room could not come to a unanimous decision. Some women was worried that the teacher would get fired. I finally pointed out that I knew waitresses and there was no way that one would allow a party to take up her table for 5 hours without buying stuff and that stuff had to be drinks. Voted again, guilty.
I just got my second jury notice in June as we were leaving on a long trip, applied for a delay and now I have it mid-October. They sent a parking pass for the parking garage BTW. This in Florida.


Posted by: agesilaus at September 21, 2019 11:18 AM (eLfhe)

57 When everybody is responsible, nobody is responsible.

Another version of the tragedy of the commons.

Posted by: Boots at September 21, 2019 11:19 AM (oGBso)

58 "I never saw the 1997 version of 12 Angry Men." Don't! It sucks canal water.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:19 AM (mk9aG)

59 I think the problem with your experience was mostly government. It will always be unwieldy getting people together, but you described just about the most dysfunctional system I can imagine.
Where I live, jury pools are divided up by judge/court. You get a notice (registered mail) from the judge's office, have to send in a questionnaire. Then, for a three-month period, if they need to impanel a jury for a specific case, they call you and tell you, along with enough other people to make up the correct sized pool, to show up on the required day. They don't all do it on the same day, and they don't bring you to the courthouse until you're needed. They also schedule jury trials for morning, so that you will either go through the selection process or be told it settled before you've been waiting too terribly long. One sure-fire way to piss off one of the local trial judges is to waste a jury's time. They will not hesitate to rip you up one side and down the other.
They also recently built a parking deck next to the courthouse, big enough to handle all the normal business of the county plus jurors.
Most of that comes down to government attitude. This is Arkansas, not California, so we're still seen as citizens rather than subjects.

Posted by: BDS at September 21, 2019 11:19 AM (rx5J2)

60 Been summoned numerous times. The last one was horrible. I think I spent almost 3 days there. It was a horrific child molester case. To make it worse, the perp was the son of a client of the firm and came in to sign poa's before the trial started. I had to draft docs and notarize.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:20 AM (BLFnH)

61 I served on a jury a couple of decades ago and it went pretty well. The procedures in the courthouse seemed well-organized for one thing. We acquitted a woman accused of larceny despite her having signed a confession. I won't go into the details, but we all strongly felt she was coerced and the prosecution's main witness was not very persuasive. Funny thing is we thought the prosecutor was a better attorney than the defense, though I can't recall if that was a public defender and lots of them get crushed with caseload.

Posted by: Chriscom at September 21, 2019 11:21 AM (LAF/s)

62 Posted by: agesilaus at September 21, 2019 11:18 AM (eLfhe)

You were making up your own facts unless the waitress testified she served the defendant.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (2DOZq)

63 I've been called three times and dismissed three times. Nobody wants a nurse that comes from a LEO family.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (a4qVe)

64 Last time I got called for jury duty was about a year ago. I didn't get selected, but did get to be in the courtroom during voir dire. The case was a criminal case of ongoing sexual abuse of two children over a several year period. The defendant was either stepfather or mother's live-in boyfriend during the alleged incidents.

The odd thing was the trial started immediately after jury selection was completed. Local news the next several days had zero (as in none) coverage. I looked up the court docket on-line and found the judge, the court, the courtroom; but zero (as in none) record of the defendant, the case or the trial. It was as if it had been scrubbed. I'm not sure what to make of that.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (m45I2)

65 I served on a jury where the challenges exhausted the jury pool in the courtroom...the judge sent the bailiffs out @lunch break to shang-hai potential jurors off the streets.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (X/Pw5)

66 "prosecutorial misconduct":

I wanted to comment on Ace's recent casual statement here that "prosecutors withhold exculpatory evidence" they are supposed to turn over in discovery "all the time."

No, they do not. It's extremely rare. Here are the reasons it's rare:

1) Being a state or federal prosecutor (I was both) is a JOB! I ain't gonna get myself fired for that kind of silly bullizh*t! For 37 years, if I get it, it goes out the door to defense counsel almost instantly-- a few names of informants may need to be redacted, but defense counsel can SEE that those redactions were made, & challenge them if they want. I never heard of a prosecutor THAT I KNEW (hundreds) risking his/her job over THAT. I mean, I want to win as much as Vince Lombardi did, but... I had no PERSONAL stake in a given verdict. If you have hundreds of them assigned to you over the years, how would you CHOOSE which one to withhold discovery on, & thereby risk your job, Ace?

2) Prosecutors, especially federal ones (AUSA's) are very closely watched trains! Multiple layers of supervisors are looking at YOU. Judges think nothing of reaming the govt out for even a HINT of "prosecutorial misconduct," & that can be a career killer, if a judge puts that in writing, which they regularly do.

3) The complaint/investigatory machinery is STAGGERING. I doubt that many private employees have ever worked with that type of legal doomsday machine hanging over their heads 24/7.

4) The most infamous case in which federal prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence from discovery was Senator Ted Stevens. That was an atrocity. The AUSA's who were responsible (and who must've had a prodigious death wish) all got fired, as I recall. Careers destroyed too. Good. Now... there are 5000 AUSA's at any given time. Ever hear of a dirty cop? Or ANY organization of that size that didn't have some really bad apples? Another AUSA within living memory, it wasn't that long ago, got arrested on his way to have sex with a 10-yr-old child he had hooked-up with on the 'Net. He killed himself. Good. But the Ted Stevens prosecutors AND the pervert were... atypical.

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 11:25 AM (Cssks)

67 Infidel, how were you not disqualified from the jury, then?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 21, 2019 11:25 AM (NVYyb)

68 63 I've been called three times and dismissed three times. Nobody wants a nurse that comes from a LEO family.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (a4qVe)

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In civil litigation, there's almost always one side who wants stupid jurors and one side who doesn't. It becomes a battle to see which side exhausts its peremptory challenges first.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 11:26 AM (ZYB2s)

69 Some people shived something.

Posted by: Little Lupe at September 21, 2019 11:26 AM (EgshT)

70 Only time I was called, about 10 years ago, was a drug-trafficking case where the evidence was iffy and really just prejudice: if you had a video of your front door/driveway you were running a drug house; if you had $1k cash stashed in a suit jacket you were a trafficker; if you had old cellphones in a box you were a trafficker; and the worst was the vicious dog who objected to a 3am knockdown raid (black lab crated at the time).

Learned afterwards that this raid was a multi-jurisdictional high-level clusterf action that netted nothing but a dead dog and multiple jury trials.

For me, the oddest impression was that the younger jurors were totally pro-prosecution 'because he must have done something wrong' and the older ones were a little more skeptical. Us oldsters kept cash (bail money or downpayments); had motion sensor lights to deter burglars; and would never imagine shooting a properly crated dog.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 21, 2019 11:27 AM (MIKMs)

71 Juries are made up of Union teachers, gov employees, cops, firemen and the like. The 13 bucks a day they get is in addition to their regular pay. Us self employed types can't afford jury duty, so we find ways to get excused the first day of selection. If I was in the pool for a case I felt strongly about , I'd likely take the hit and serve, but the shit going to trial is really stupid shit that should be handled by adults across their back fence.

Posted by: Ass Chum at September 21, 2019 11:27 AM (Jj+59)

72 The jury I wish I served on was the one that convicted that concealed carrier who got shoved down by that big thug. No way would I have voted him guilty of "standing your ground" while actually "sitting on the ground." The world is a far better place without that belligerent thug he popped. Yes, I would have nullified.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:28 AM (mk9aG)

73 Will say the Feds took care of a late entry parking fee by me, parking in downtown center city Philadelphia isn't cheap for a truck.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 11:28 AM (ZCEU2)

74 Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (m45I2)

Similar to the jury pool I was in last fall. The whole thing was just bizarre. Then, this past summer, the judge that heard the case was arrested for dui with his boyfriend in the car. He begged cops not to put him in jail. "they'll kill me." Got a little slap on the wrist and still sits on the bench.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:29 AM (BLFnH)

75 Morning all. Sitting at the vehicle inspection station.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2019 11:29 AM (VY2sw)

76 Infidel, how were you not disqualified from the jury, then?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a

I was in the gallery during voir dire, was not picked for the jury. The document signing came after, during a trial break.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:31 AM (BLFnH)

77 At 56 (aka 29), I've only been summoned once. Parking was a drag. I was questioned during voir dire on a trial involving a guy accused of molesting a kid. Me, young mom at the time, didn't get chosen. I can't imagine why!

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 21, 2019 11:32 AM (JoUsr)

78 Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:28 AM (mk9aG)

WTF. That guy was guilty as hell.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:33 AM (2DOZq)

79 65 I served on a jury where the challenges exhausted the jury pool in the courtroom...the judge sent the bailiffs out @lunch break to shang-hai potential jurors off the streets.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 11:22 AM (X/Pw5)


That's a good reason to brown-bag it. "Hello, boss? I'm not coming back from lunch break. I just found out I'm on a jury."

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 11:34 AM (sdi6R)

80 "Who came up with this system, anyway?"

Norse. Saxons. Common practice among northern Europeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_trial_by_jury_in_England

Greeks. Pfeh. They didn't have juries. They had mobs.

Posted by: Apostate at September 21, 2019 11:34 AM (hZ4Kc)

81 My recent jury service

How does my experience compare to yours?



How? I'd swear you were in Denton County, Texas except for the parking issue. Internal sounds exactly like it.

I wonder if they all go to a people handling school?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2019 11:35 AM (VY2sw)

82 I've only been called up twice, and both times I was in the pool. However, it seemed like I was a subpoena magnet at an early age. Had one served at age 16, working part time for the newspaper. I was putting out those boxes paper carriers get there stuff in, a guy was broke down, and another guy pulls up and cold cocks him. Didn't know either from Adam, and I get a subpoena, tell em what I saw, and go about my 16 year old business. Later in the week, I'm with my bud at his girlfriends house, she BFF with my girlfriend, and in walks Dad, the guy I testified against. In my early thirties, I had an FFL, and sold a 410 to a guy with marital problems he finalized.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 21, 2019 11:35 AM (C1Lsn)

83 Voir dire'd out, every time. Starting to think lawyers don't want engineers on a jury.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at September 21, 2019 11:35 AM (1L9V9)

84 Similar to the jury pool I was in last fall. The whole thing was just bizarre. Then, this past summer, the judge that heard the case was arrested for dui with his boyfriend in the car. He begged cops not to put him in jail. "they'll kill me." Got a little slap on the wrist and still sits on the bench.
Posted by: Infidel

******


Hell Infidel, it was probably the same case. Last fall would be the right timing. If so, that's quite a coincidence. Judge's first name Lance?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:36 AM (m45I2)

85 One of the first a question is always, "are any of you lawyers?" I raise my hand an am immediately dismissed.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 21, 2019 11:37 AM (wUzFb)

86 My experience from 18 years of commercial litigation:

Juries are insane, and only a complete fool will ever try a case to a jury. Always choose a bench (judge only) trial.

The absolutely worst case I ever tried, which I begged my client to settle before trial, I tried before a jury, and of course I won when I should have been laughed out of court.

The absolutely best case I ever tried, which I would still try today and ten times on Sunday because the evidence was so overwhelming, I tried before a jury and lost so badly that my client sued me over it.

I always talked to the juries after the case was over to see what their decision points were. Almost uniformly they hung their decision on the least important evidence, or even a "fact" that was never even presented to them, or a completely ridiculous misunderstanding of the law.

Juries are from Hell. Avoid being on either side of one at all costs.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 11:37 AM (xgyDD)

87 Been on juries three times each time it settled shortly after we got seated. Oddly enough all three where accidental death cases two civil one criminal.

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclops at September 21, 2019 11:38 AM (B06Zw)

88 Why, yes Muldoon, it was.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:39 AM (BLFnH)

89 and the worst was the vicious dog who objected to a 3am knockdown raid (black lab crated at the time).



*types deletes*

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2019 11:39 AM (VY2sw)

90 Been summoned a few times but never made it to a courtroom.

I guess when you fill out the questionaire and answer the "Have you ever been the victim of a crime?" and start it with that time in elementary school Billy Harkins stole your bicycle and have twenty more events from there to last year it kind of flags you.

And then they make you sit there all day until releasing you at close of business.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 21, 2019 11:40 AM (1g7ch)

91 Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 11:37 AM (xgyDD

As an insurance company court monitor / negotiator ( bag man) I agree with everything you've said.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

92 Did jury service in the UK years ago. Ghastly experience; utter incompetence all round and two trials, the first of which I'd happily have sown both the accuser and plaintiff (who was coiunter-accusing) in a sack and thrown it in the sea. With lead weights attached. The second was somehow worse; three whole days of a trial of making illicit 'cowgirl' videos (they were NOT girls!) only after which the bastard accused settled. I'd have jailed him for making me never able to watch a Western agaiun without wincing!

Posted by: Steve T. at September 21, 2019 11:43 AM (3g/8c)

93 My former employer made it incumbent on individual employees to lie their way out of jury duty.

Most of the parking tickets were written for expired meters at the courthouse/gov't center.

Posted by: klaftern at September 21, 2019 11:43 AM (RuIsu)

94 "WTF. That guy was guilty as hell." As I said, I would have nullified. By the letter of the law he was guilty, but justice demanded acquittal.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:44 AM (mk9aG)

95 Why, yes Muldoon, it was.
Posted by: Infidel

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I always wondered what the outcome of that child sex abuse case was. Never did hear. I think it was a change of venue thing out of Delta or Montrose county. Weird how it just disappeared as if it never happened.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:44 AM (m45I2)

96 Weird how it just disappeared as if it never happened.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:44 AM (m45I2)

Name wasn't Epstein, was it?

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 11:46 AM (X/Pw5)

97 86
Juries are from Hell. Avoid being on either side of one at all costs.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 11:37 AM (xgyDD)


I've never tried to get out of jury duty, because I figure that if I'm ever on the wrong end of a trial, I'd want sane and intelligent jurors.

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 11:47 AM (sdi6R)

98 I think jury duty in my county pays something like $9 per day

after 3 days you get a raise - $25 per day

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 11:47 AM (+72t1)

99 No change of venue. He was found guilty. Sure was kept out of the media tho.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:48 AM (BLFnH)

100
*types deletes*

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Prosecutor himself opened the door to that information by an over-the-top theatrical opening statement about how dogs impede the course of justice and the jurors all (even the youngsters) went huh?. I think most of the info was suppressed regarding the raid and the crazypants cops but the prosecutor brought it up. I was surprised that there was a previous hung jury in that case in a totally pro-prosecution and supercop supporting area.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 21, 2019 11:48 AM (MIKMs)

101 "Juries are from Hell. Avoid being on either side of one at all costs."

This. Do everything you can to stay away from the criminal "justice" "system." Situational awareness is your friend, and will keep you away from much of the crap that might get you "justice-involved."

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:50 AM (mk9aG)

102 I was cop in Ca. in the 70's. I testified many, many times. I found the atorneys working for both sides, on the taxpayer dime, to be pretty dolt-ish, most of the time. There was an occasional really sharp prosecutor, but you can imagine how often they stayed in public jobs. Because my city refused to settle nuisance suits, I testified in many civil proceedings as well. Again, I found occasional high quality attorneys, but for the most part, these were really not very competent people. Since where judges come from, you can imagine my view of most of the judges I appeared before. In my view, the system is broken, and sucks in terms of bringing justice for victims, and protecting society. I have zero faith in it, and watching the haphazard application of "law" in DC, I think I'm justified. It's all kabuki theater to make us think the system works. It doesn't. At 66 , and retired, I still get summoned, but haven't never been allowed to sit on a jury, and it's just as well. IMO, no one gets to trial who isn't dead bang guilty. and I will always vote that view..

Posted by: macleod at September 21, 2019 11:50 AM (gaJIW)

103
Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 11:25 AM (Cssks)

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Interesting, mnw, but how do you account for what appears to be routine, institutionalized injustice at the highest levels of the DOJ nowadays?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 11:50 AM (13CQC)

104 I don't know why but I've been called 3 times Selected all 3 times Twice County (civil cases) Once Federal (criminal)

Federal case took 3 months....Most of the time only went 3 days a week and sometime for half a day at that due to the judges schedule ...
Last time I was the alternate on a malpractice case and the case was settled after 5 days of testimony..Alternate was horrible because you aren't allowed in the jury room so every recess you a put in a separate room.. Thank god for my Kindle app on the Ipad

Posted by: Ken at September 21, 2019 11:51 AM (G6QBb)

105 "But the Ted Stevens prosecutors AND the pervert were... atypical."

Indeed. But no one will listen to you. Bitching about lawyers, judges, and legal specifics are part of conservative DNA. Even the fucking lawyers; see Glenn Reynold's idiotic crusade against qualified immunity.

'It has no basis in the Constitution, therefore it's illegitimate.'

Like, 90% of judicial doctrines have no basis in the Constitution and are derived logically. For instance, nothing in the Constitution prevents a party from arguing FOR point A in trial proceedings, and AGAINST point A in appeals; but judicial estoppel is a good and reasonable thing.

Likewise, qualified immunity. A government official acting in good faith execution of their duties SHOULD benefit from the shield of sovereign immunity. A soldier in combat who mistakenly shoots a noncombatant in ambiguous circumstances shouldn't be liable for murder. Obviously. Likewise, a police officer who shoots a suspect holding a black or otherwise realistic looking toy gun in ambiguous circumstances shouldn't be liable for murder. The execution of their official duties involves dealing with violent people, violently. Honest mistakes should not destroy them; and destroying them for honest mistakes would paralyze warfighting/law enforcement/etc out of terror of pulling the actual or proverbial trigger at the right time.

But all most people care about is stupid, simplistic formulations that amount to 'GOVMENT AGENT GETS AWAY WITH MURDER' and 'NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION.'

Likewise with the intelligence community. I worked in intelligence for six years, before I became a lawyer. Civil protections of US persons were vigorously enforced, and nearly all people I ever met in that career were honest patriots (there were a couple of crackpots and people of dubious loyalty; I personally reported one to counterintelligence for disloyal statements and he was eventually fired). But hatred and distrust of them is endemic among conservatives, based on similar simplistic and stupid interpretations of the field.

A unity of these dumb criticisms is re: the FISA court. The FISA court was established *specifically* to protect American civil liberties while still allowing necessary counterintelligence activities to proceed. Would you prefer that foreign agents of influence and actual illegal spies have the full suite of Constitutional protections afforded citizens? Because that's what it was like before FISA. US counterintelligence efforts before then skirted the law and were deeply secret to avoid that kind of legal challenge, but got shutdown in the CIA-hating spree of the 1970s. Ergo, FISA was established in 1978.

But all the typical US conservative sees is 'FISA was used to try to bring down the Trump campaign,' therefore it's BAD.

End rant.

Posted by: Apostate at September 21, 2019 11:51 AM (hZ4Kc)

106 For the first time ever in my 56+ years, I've been summoned for jury duty. I don't have any legitimate reason to get out of it, so on October 1 I'll do my civic duty. It's a small town, and I owned a restaurant here for years, so it's highly likely that I'll know whoever is involved with the case, including the attorneys, so perhaps I'll be dismissed.

Posted by: windbag at September 21, 2019 11:52 AM (INE0M)

107 "I've never tried to get out of jury duty, because I figure that if I'm ever on the wrong end of a trial, I'd want sane and intelligent jurors."

I don't try to avoid it because: it's a duty. It's a very small price to pay to try to achieve some semblance of justice in a crazy unjust world.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:52 AM (mk9aG)

108
Juries are from Hell. Avoid being on either side of one at all costs.
Posted by: Sharkman

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What about judges? Just curious.

Also, something I don't know: if you (the defendant) go for a trial by jury and you find during voir dire that they're a bunch of idiots, can you change your mind and go for a bench trial?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 11:53 AM (13CQC)

109 The one good thing about the jury room here, since you are locked up there and can't leave, is that it has a fresh air smoking room right off the hall to the bathrooms.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:53 AM (BLFnH)

110 No change of venue. He was found guilty. Sure was kept out of the media tho.
Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 11:48 AM (BLFnH)

Got to be prominent democrats involved.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 11:53 AM (jEgzt)

111 Aha!! I found it.

The sex abuser was convicted and sentenced to 168 years in prison. The mother of the girls had a video of him having sexual intercourse with one of them. During sentencing the dirtbag claimed his rights had been violated and that the video shouldn't have been shown because the little girl was too young to consent to having a video taken. Hope he rots in jail or better yet meets his Maker via jailhouse justice.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 11:55 AM (m45I2)

112 "... there are the psychological manipulations which are common in the
courtroom now - changing the focus to the defendant's childhood and
such."

and for Kate Steinle, the "illegal alien exemption" applied. Victim status is (PC) culturally established outside the courtroom, and extends into other social dynamics. A difficult childhood at least might possibly apply directly to a given person, as opposed to the bigotry of identity politics, where whole classes are punished/rewarded based on race/religion/etc.


Even for the truly troubled child still struggling as an adult, allowing them to escape responsibility only encourages more escape from reality, and the "poor me" syndrome is encouraged. This applies to the "diversity hire" double standard problem. And Holder's absurd "disparate impact laws" codify the double standard against whites.


The family/childhood dynamic really is a big factor, but not an excuse. But our schools are now part of the childhood (and/or broken home) abuse, teaching "victimhood privilege" instead of foundational civics. By the time the criminal is facing trial, the route to turning them around is difficult, and our prisons are better setup to teach them to be better criminals, not better citizens (from my limited view).


I watched "Baby Driver" the other day ... he had good parents, lost in a tragedy. But the good parenting carried him through his bad times, and in the end he got the girl. Hurray for a favorable outcome that considered childhood?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 11:55 AM (Cus5s)

113 I've got Jury duty again next month.

7th time in the last 9 years (1 was Fed, rest State).

Random my lilly white ass.

I have noted, that even though my County is 68% Hispanic, the Jury pool of almost 500 people was 90% White or Black, very few Hispanics.

Posted by: Don Q at September 21, 2019 11:56 AM (NgKpN)

114 But the Ted Stevens prosecutors AND the pervert were... atypical.

Posted by: mnw


License to Lie by Sydney Powell, Gen. Mike Flynn's new lawyer, is about the misconduct in the Stevens case, as well as the misconduct in the Arthur Anderson and Merril Lynch cases.

The prosecutors were not only NOT fired, but ended up being in charge of the Mueller investigation (Andrew Weismann) and Chief White House Cousel under Obama (Kathryn Ruemmler).

I was listening to Ms. Powell just yesterday on this subject:

https://youtu.be/1hUNITkseos

It is terrifying what she experienced and which caused her to write her book, and she is dealing with the same shit in the Flynn case, but fortunately she has Judge Emmett Sullivan on that case.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 11:57 AM (xgyDD)

115 "I watched "Baby Driver" the other day ... " Hate the song, hate the movie.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:00 PM (mk9aG)

116 113 might prove Hispanics are not voting or just not long enough

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:00 PM (ZCEU2)

117 Guy steals a truck in Houston. He's going down I-10 towards San Antonio with a buddy and a toddler, smoking crack, drinking whiskey, shooting at other car and/or running them off the road.

I had 2 women on my jury that couldn't grasp 'reasonable doubt'. Eyewitness testimony was not to be believed- only official documents. After 8 hours of deliberations and some Jedi mind tricks, I got them to agree on the DWI charge only.

Later, the Judge tells us he's an illegal alien and just got out of jail for the same shit. I guess Harris County didn't call the Feds; hopefully, Guadalupe did.

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at September 21, 2019 12:01 PM (n4Ozf)

118 I was called for Grand Jury once. A court room full of prospective jurors. Many were dismissed because of hardship (its 3 or 4 weeks on the GJ) I noticed many blacks were dismissed leaving generally whites to be selected.
I was selected and taken to the GJ rooms, which were comfortable. 24 of us were one GJ one and another 24 on GJ two, etc.
We then all assembled in the court room for a inspirational talk by a judge of how important we were, then back to our rooms, which had a small snack are, coffee makers,etc.
We started the next am hearing cases, and we felt sorry for the defendants. By the end of the first week we were ready to hang everyone!
After it was all over in 3 weeks, we all knew each other and actually had a get together at a local party house. We didn't discuss any of the cases between our selves, following the rules. I still remember some of the very sad cases we heard, and wonder what ever happened to the defendants.

Posted by: Colin at September 21, 2019 12:03 PM (FE1ds)

119 Good Lord, Muldoon. I had no idea it was that horrific. He was a slight little guy and unless he's in solitary, I don't expect he will last long. May he rot in hell.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 12:03 PM (BLFnH)

120 I've been in the pool but never called, I'd never make past the selection phase on any jury, I'd just tell them I plan on voting my conscious and plan on telling the other jurors they should as well.

Posted by: Shoey at September 21, 2019 12:04 PM (lg4FP)

121 I think I was called up for jury duty in like 1992, but had to beg off - I was in the Navy and out of the country.

I haven't been called since, yet.

My dad was called up once, but was dismissed because the defendant was a buddy of his.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at September 21, 2019 12:04 PM (ijEPD)

122 Aha - a hook for touting a couple of related old webworks
From Bill of Rights series

VI. Impartial justice
mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/impartial-justice

VII. Jury rigging
mindfulwebworks.com/doodles/jury-rigging
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Jury I served on in Chicago suburb ages ago, 11 out of 12 jurors really tried our best to judge as we would like to be judged. The 12th was, whatever, let's vote guilty & go home. Figure 11 out of 12 serious citizens was pretty good.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nullificationary at September 21, 2019 12:05 PM (MZVOx)

123 Infidel-

Here's the article

https://tinyurl.com/martin-el-sentencing

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:06 PM (m45I2)

124 It's a beautiful summer day here, went for short bile ride.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:07 PM (ZCEU2)

125
Some women was worried that the teacher would get fired.

Posted by: agesilaus

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That's why mnw is right about juries. I worked for a big academic testing firm once, reading high school kids' essays. Some were unreadably bad, produced by obviously illiterate teens. Women in the group would say "Aw, if I give it a zero, the kid won't graduate. I don't want to ruin anyone's life!"

Idiots don't know: they have ONE JOB. Other people take over after you deliver your finding.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 12:07 PM (13CQC)

126 i was summoned to jury duty once. the members of the jury pool all stood, along with the defense and prosecutors, when the judge entered. the judge sat down, said "good morning" to the perspective jurors and told the prosecutors and defense, including the accused, to greet and welcome the jurors, as well.

it was exceedingly polite and good natured and a very pleasant respite from the seriousness of the morning. i don't know if they all do that or if ir was just hat judge, but memory always brings a smile.

i wasn't picked and went to work.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 12:07 PM (Pg+x7)

127 What is the story behind the song Tom Dooley?
"Tom Dooley" is a North Carolina folk song based on the 1866 murder of a woman named Laura Foster in Wilkes County, North Carolina, allegedly by Tom Dula. The song is best known today because of a hit version recorded in 1958 by The Kingston Trio.

Posted by: Malaking Buto at September 21, 2019 12:07 PM (WnvuL)

128 then they'd ask about the Law and I'd say, well there's the Law and then there's right and wrong, the two aren't always the same.

Posted by: Shoey at September 21, 2019 12:08 PM (lg4FP)

129 I have voted every election since 1984 and NEVER even called for jury duty! What am I? Chopped liver?
I just want to send someone to prison

Posted by: HobbieHawk at September 21, 2019 12:09 PM (xikn8)

130 my experience with jury duty summons is that if you are randomly assigned to be near the start of the line you wikl be picked

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 12:10 PM (+72t1)

131 Muldoon, that is not the jury pool I was in. I think it was Oct. and was a white guy. Also hidden by the media.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 12:10 PM (BLFnH)

132 "But all the typical US conservative sees is 'FISA was used to try to bring down the Trump campaign,' therefore it's BAD." apostate

interesting rant, thanks.

But FISA was abused, and long after the judges found out they were lied to, nothing has happened, and the political objective (coup) continues. FISA had (allegedly) become a rubber stamp, all sorts of abuses ... DeepState rules ... hence the broader opinion that FISA is bad because those judges failed to reign in abuse.


We certainly need the covert operations, but we need genuine oversight so it does not become the DeepState mob we seem to have today. (and what do we really understand about the highest ranking CIA/commie/DNC/Fusion/etc. connections that happen at the compartmentalized top, even if the lower ranks are mostly patriots?)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 12:10 PM (Cus5s)

133 A lot of sick fucks in this world.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 12:12 PM (BLFnH)

134 I used to practice before an older judge in the Ozarks who would send the sheriff out to collect juror no-shows. They'd sit in the court lock-up until the end of the day, when the judge would examine them and give them a night in jail for contempt if they didn't have a damn good reason.

Posted by: RS at September 21, 2019 12:13 PM (CNQqJ)

135 What about judges? Just curious.

Also, something I don't know: if you (the defendant) go for a trial by jury and you find during voir dire that they're a bunch of idiots, can you change your mind and go for a bench trial?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Judges are only marginally better than juries, because they are human and therefore callable. But at least they generally know bullshit when they hear it and know how the elements of a claim must be proven and what evidence that takes.

I was a very atypical attorney (retired now) and I could have made a shitload more money than I did if I just took every case I vould and pushed to trial on every one like most attorneys do. Instead, I figured out during Mock Trial class in law school that juries are nuts and that trials are pretty much a cheap shoot to be avoided if possible.

First meeting with a client I would describe for them the Parade of Horribles awaiting them in the litigation process, how money I would drain from their accounts and how even if they had the best case the jury would almost certainly botch their case or the judge would fuck them if they were in a bad mood at trial.

And then I would ask the client if there was any way for them to settle their case to avoid what is almost always a nightmare. Almost everyone would choose rationality and settlement over scorched earth war and would work to solve their problem rather than litigate. Fortunately for them and their bank accounts and nerves.

I was commercial litigation only not criminal defense but I assume a defendant has a right to withdraw his request for a jury at any time prior to verdict but I maybbe wrong about that.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 12:13 PM (xgyDD)

136 I've written here before on my experience as a federal jury summonee, and in general it just sucks. Bigly. No electronic devices, no freakin' books! even, no place or way to have a smoke, an extensive search upon entry to the building...

They treat citizen jurors like the criminals. And of course, it is compulsory with the threat of imprisonment if you don't show up. And they, on purpose, make phone calls to the late/absent jurors while in the jury waiting room, so we can all hear the threats they make.

It did not at all improve my opinion of the US government.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2019 12:13 PM (Z4rgH)

137 >>It's a beautiful summer day here, went for short bile ride.
Posted by: Skip

Might want to get that gallbladder checked.

Posted by: Aviator at September 21, 2019 12:15 PM (2cuLk)

138
She said that if you think you can escape by not registering to vote, think again, because we also select from the driver registration lists.
Posted by: rickl

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That would mean there are illegal aliens on the jury.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 12:15 PM (13CQC)

139 1 Muldoon, that is not the jury pool I was in. I think it was Oct. and was a white guy. Also hidden by the media.
Posted by: Infidel


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OK. Guess it would have been interesting to have two Horde members on the same jury.

Sad commentary on our society that there is so much sexual misuse of children. It makes my heart heavy. The essence of evil.

The guy who probably killed my father-in-law had prior convictions for having sex with a 13 year old when he was in his late 20's.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:15 PM (m45I2)

140 Oh, FFS, I've got a guy who sat near me at the airport and is playing video on his phone, and, no matter that other people may not be interested, just blasting out the sound.

I'm tempted to pull up some of my hard rock and start playing.

grumble grumble grumbe idiot.

Posted by: blake - used road trip salesman at September 21, 2019 12:16 PM (cVvbj)

141 Afternoon all

Been called for jury duty 5 times and was selected once. When they ask if you know anyone in the court saying the Judge tends to get you dismissed.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2019 12:16 PM (TsX0v)

142
I assume a defendant has a right to withdraw his request for a jury at any time prior to verdict but I maybbe wrong about that.
Posted by: Sharkman

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If I was a defendant and I heard a bunch of idiots in voir dire and I had the choice, I'd go for the bench. What a gamble, though.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 12:18 PM (13CQC)

143 Heck, these days a guilty-as-sin defendant could probably deploy a "global warming made me do it" defense and 8 out of 12 jurors would agree.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:20 PM (m45I2)

144 This past January I was selected for a jury for the first time in 45 years. Having a JD and being a retired lawyer did not get me excused. It was a felony aggravated sexual assault trial, which made me cringe. The "upside" was that the aggravated part was due to the victim's age (13) and it was apparently a one-time occurrence by the perp. (No other victims; no violence) Sadly, the victim became pregnant and aborted the child.

During voir dire, we weren't told any of the facts, only that it involved a 13 y.o. and abortion. I was very surprised at how many people were excused because they said that they could not render a fair verdict in a case involving abortion. (Only a small percentage were saying this to get out of jury duty, it seemed to me.) Almost as many were excused because of sexual assault experiences either personally or of a family member.

There's a lot to say about the trial, but it's too much to go into today. The defendant was convicted. Prosecutors asked for 50 years; the jury gave him 70. Yes, he deserved it, but it was just a tragedy from any way you looked at it. And I'm not by any means a bleeding heart.

I was highly impressed with the seriousness and intelligence of my fellow jurors, which was, frankly, a surprise. I came away with a greater appreciation of the jury system than I've ever had in my 29 years.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 21, 2019 12:20 PM (S+f+m)

145 But all the typical US conservative sees is 'FISA was used to try to bring down the Trump campaign,' therefore it's BAD.

End rant.
Posted by: Apostate at September 21, 2019 11:51 AM (hZ4Kc)

FISA courts have approved something like 99.97% of warrants sought by government officials.

They are a rubber stamp jobs program, not a court.

Posted by: Sjg at September 21, 2019 12:21 PM (gDSJf)

146 137 Bike, Still have mine, it was a short investigation pre lunch ride, going longer in time in a hour.
Remember, type, read, post.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:21 PM (ZCEU2)

147
I've been on only one jury, a civil case. I thought the jurors were pretty smart overall and they slapped down the few dufuses who wanted to consider peripheral things that had nothing to do with the case.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 12:22 PM (13CQC)

148 Crazy Uncle Joe is claiming President Trump is abusing power in the call to Ukraine, Crazy Uncle Joe didn't do anything wrong by every person's account.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:23 PM (ZCEU2)

149 Judge Collyer gave some pushback, but how does she take on the Oval Office, State, NSC, CIA, FBI, DNI and DOJ by herself when the criminals are the ones asking for the warrant?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 21, 2019 12:23 PM (Ndje9)

150 Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 21, 2019 12:20 PM


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Interesting take. I'm glad your experience was positive. Maybe my outlook is unnecessarily bleak.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:23 PM (m45I2)

151 Seen on Insty: a town in Massachusetts is being paralyzed by "ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT WOMEN" flyers. Denying it is Islamophobia, and supporting it is misogyny, so it's a lose-lose for the left. Whoever thought those up is brilliant.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 21, 2019 12:23 PM (6XLoz)

152 Two jury duties ago, a judge invited those of us remaining in the jury assembly room to view the trial in his courtroom if we desired, which I did.

I was treated to a pretty blatant bit of railroading, possibly gross defense incompetence, that resulted in the defendant getting 25 yrs for a crime that couldn't be proven without defense cooperation.

Last jury duty, I was selected for a jury in the courtroom of the same judge, with the same defense attourney. The judge asked if anyone on the jury had any reasons, etc., and I raised my hand. I told him tactfully that "a prior trial over which he had presided, and with the same attourney," had made a strong impression on me and might sway my impartiality.

After a couple more oblique questions, I was dismissed. Haven't been called since.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at September 21, 2019 12:25 PM (XuBZu)

153 I've been summoned tthere times, the first two times I had valid exemptions. The last time was not too long ago, I dropped a few pounds, bought new clothes, fami,iarized myself with location and parking well ahead of time, and then was never needed, because all the federal suits scheduled for the period of my service were settled, and I never had to even go downtown.

Posted by: SarahW at September 21, 2019 12:25 PM (g1vnC)

154

U.S. Rep. Joe Kennedy III formally declared his candidacy for the U.S. Senate on Saturday, becoming the first member of the Kennedy political dynasty to bid for the upper chamber of Congress since Edward M. Kennedy in 1962.

The Massachusetts Democrat formally announced his campaign in an email before a kickoff event in East Boston, where the Kennedy clan first settled after arriving from Ireland well over a century ago.

"I'm running because our country is at a moment of truth," Kennedy told supporters in the email. "Donald Trump has forced a long overdue reckoning in America. And how we respond will say everything about who we are."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 12:26 PM (aKsyK)

155 I just completed jury service on a murder case in Ann Arbor. Three PhDs and at least 2 MAs on the jury. 2 weeks.

Very efficient and professional management of the jurors, pre- and post- selection.

Posted by: sinmi at September 21, 2019 12:27 PM (kgOLv)

156 ...I dropped a few pounds, bought new clothes...

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Never hurts to make a good first impression.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:27 PM (m45I2)

157 In downtown Los Angeles there is juror parking available and the process is streamlined. But the jurors are treated like cattle, can even be transferred to courthouses many miles away after one has gone to the trouble of getting to this courthouse. I've been on two juries and it was amusing both times. But when the jury deliberates, some of the people who seemed normal suddenly get very stupid.

Posted by: microcosme at September 21, 2019 12:28 PM (B+xWY)

158 Circa 2001-2008 seemed like the summons came every other year at least. Since? Crickets. Have CDL, SS#, registered to vote.

Posted by: adobe juan hang em high kenobe at September 21, 2019 12:29 PM (oGag2)

159 "I'm running because our country is at a moment of truth," Kennedy told supporters in the email. "Donald Trump has forced a long overdue reckoning in America. And how we respond will say everything about who we are."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 12:26 PM (aKsyK)

Says to me that JoeK3 is a worthless sack of shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 12:31 PM (jEgzt)

160

"Have you ever served on a jury before"

"Yes"

"What was that case?"

"We hung that black piece of shit that killed that white store clerk!"

DISMISSED!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at September 21, 2019 12:33 PM (UFLLM)

161 I sat on a murder trial 8-10 years ago. In our area the setup isn't as bad as the blogger describes. The guy was found guilty. The funny part is without his statement to the police, I wouldn't have found him guilty. There were multiple witnesses to the shooting but no one could positively identify him. He admitted that he was driving the car but claimed some unknown party came up out of nowhere and fired at the victim from behind him. All the witnesses were positive the driver of the car got out and fired the shots.

Posted by: MickyD at September 21, 2019 12:33 PM (MqUsV)

162
"I'm running because our country is at a moment of truth," Kennedy
told supporters in the email. "Donald Trump has forced a long overdue
reckoning in America. And how we respond will say everything about who
we are."+++++++++
Never going to be done with this clan. Actually, as everyone here realizes, that "moment of truth" occurred eight years prior and Trump is our last and only chance to undo the catastrophic mistake that was done then.Camelot oh Camelot, where fore art thou sweet Camelot *spit*

Posted by: Old Dude at September 21, 2019 12:34 PM (LGXGf)

163 Hence the computer-selected names from a list of registered voters and licensed drivers.

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So, if you're an illegal who registers to vote in a motor-voter state, you can serve on a jury? Great.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 12:34 PM (NVNZk)

164 "I dropped a few pounds, bought new clothes," For jury duty? This is why us guys will never understand women

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:35 PM (mk9aG)

165 Not many people know this, but "Twelve Angry Men" is an abbreviated version of an old Greek play called "Five Hundred Angry Men."

Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 12:35 PM (LTccB)

166
Crazy Uncle Joe is claiming President Trump is abusing power in the call to Ukraine, Crazy Uncle Joe didn't do anything wrong by every person's account.
Posted by: Skip

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I did my homework on that one and finally got (I think) a lay of the facts and even typed out a cute little summary for my own benefit and those of the morons. John Solomon has the latest and best column on it.

Yeah, he and Obama are guilty, and even the MSM are having trouble with it. They have to admit the leaky source is saying Trump sought no quid pro quo, and that the Hunter element looks bad for daddy and son.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 12:35 PM (13CQC)

167 Placed on a malpractice jury. Took us less than 15 minutes to agree ambulance chasing atty got nothing, vote to aquit a good doctor. During voir dire, a chap tried to be excused stating he hated american medical system, armenia had a better one. Judge thanked him, said you're excused from this week long at most civil trial to be kicked upstairs to the criminal jury pool where trials last months. Gavel, baliff.

Posted by: adobe juan kenobe at September 21, 2019 12:35 PM (oGag2)

168 I have served on local juries and on a federal jury. Very fine well-run experiences. Federal jury duty was in Rapid City. We recieved excellent instructions with maps marked with parking areas. Bailiffs were great. Jury waiting areas had fruit and other healthy snacks. And the judges and all other officials were superb.

I expected no less. South Dakota is a well run state.

Posted by: Just Lily at September 21, 2019 12:36 PM (H53JR)

169
"I'm gonna nullify or hang this jury if I think these other 11 sumbitches are wrong!"

DISMISSED!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at September 21, 2019 12:36 PM (UFLLM)

170 A jury of 500 sounds a little unwieldy to me. What do you imagine that was like?

Kinda like the Democrat debates?

Also "B.C.E." --> "B.C."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 12:37 PM (A68IW)

171 If there is one aspect of our republic that generally works, it is the jury system. No doubt, sometimes it does not. But in the vast majority of cases, it does, and it also represents the best example of small "g" government we have. As a trial judge in Texas, and a lurking moron, my favorite war stories are jury selection stories. And my juries always tried conscientiously to get the facts right. Also, they are the best example of how to ignore intersectionality, probably because they all have in common wanting not to be selected in the first place. Very few people want to sit on a jury. But most understand how important it is. William F. Buckley's preference of being governed by the first 200 names in the Boston phone book versus the faculty at Harvard is on point. People with common sense and better things to do make the best possible jurors, and they come in all shapes, sizes and colors.

Posted by: Mongo Mere Pawn at September 21, 2019 12:38 PM (Xh7t/)

172 Seen on Insty: a town in Massachusetts is being paralyzed by "ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT WOMEN" flyers. Denying it is Islamophobia, and supporting it is misogyny, so it's a lose-lose for the left. Whoever thought those up is brilliant.

Posted by: Ian S.

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Hmmm... Gotta try this with "ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT HOMOSEXUALS!" flyers!

Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 12:38 PM (LTccB)

173 Seems to me the parking issue for jurors and prospective jurors could be solved by reimbursing those people for cab or uber fare to and from the courthouse.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 12:38 PM (jEgzt)

174 The exact circumstances of the injury case I was on actually comes up very often ( it was a material delivery from a box truck) so have told many drivers of it, and being foreman and most of the jury didn't buy the case as it was against the recipient but actually talked a couple of holdouts it wasn't just some insurance company paying so no harm to anyone.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:38 PM (ZCEU2)

175
"I just fucked the defendant's sister in the bathroom, is that a problem?"

DISMISSED!


Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at September 21, 2019 12:39 PM (UFLLM)

176 My feeling is, when the lawyer starts talking about the defendant's childhood and what not, the defendant is probably guilty.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 21, 2019 12:39 PM (l9m7l)

177 "he hated american medical system, armenia had a better one."

Well I guess he regrets being kidnapped from Armenia and being dumped off in America, with no way of getting back to his beloved paradise.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:40 PM (mk9aG)

178 Isn't 12 Angry Men the one where a single juror convinces the other 11 jurors (via a long and arduous debate fraught with emotional upheaval) to change their 'guilty' votes to 'not guilty', only to change his own ''not guilty' vote 'guilty' at the last minute, just to be contrarian?

No wonder they were angry!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:40 PM (m45I2)

179 Joe Biden just blasts them with both barrels.
Like Corn Puff.

Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2019 12:40 PM (Y274z)

180 " when the lawyer starts talking about the defendant's childhood and what not, "

That's when I stand up in the jury box and shout "Hold My Beer!"

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:40 PM (mk9aG)

181 Also "B.C.E." --> "B.C."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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I fucking HATE "B.C.E." It's B.C. because Christians made the calendar, damn it!

Same way that America led the way in aviation, so English is the international language of aviation. We won the race, so we pick the language.

If people don't like B.C. then invent a new calendar.

Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 12:41 PM (LTccB)

182 Any reason the justice system comes up as a topic on the weekend of the Michigan MoMee?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 21, 2019 12:41 PM (FTlwv)

183 Been summoned, but never served on any jury.

Military obligations and school prevented that.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2019 12:41 PM (RU4sa)

184 "I'm running because our country is at a moment of truth," Kennedy told supporters in the email. "Donald Trump has forced a long overdue reckoning in America. And how we respond will say everything about who we are."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 12:26 PM (aKsyK)


I can answer that for him already. You're drunken reprobate opportunists.

I assume he was referring to the Kennedys.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 12:41 PM (A68IW)

185 Isn't 12 Angry Men the one where a single juror convinces the other 11 jurors (via a long and arduous debate fraught with emotional upheaval) to change their 'guilty' votes to 'not guilty', only to change his own ''not guilty' vote 'guilty' at the last minute, just to be contrarian?

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Spoiler alert: No. He doesn't change his vote in the end.

They acquit the suspect.

Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 12:42 PM (LTccB)

186 "Isn't 12 Angry Men the one where ..." ... Sidney Lumet proves again he is one of the greatest directors of all time.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:42 PM (mk9aG)

187 Oh boy, juries. Two were memorable here in Harris County, Texas. Not my last time (in which I showed up, waited a couple of hours in the assembly room, and then got dismissed) but the time before I got put on a panel and about 30 of us got put into a large room with a table and six chairs, and a water cooler but no cups, and we waited. We were there about four hours. The bailiff appeared a couple of times to tell us that they were searching for one of the defendants, but that it wouldn't be much longer. Right at the end, the judge showed up and thanked us for our service. It turns out that many defendants are sure they want a jury trial right up until the point that the trial will begin, at which point they plead out, so just having a jury meant they could deal with a dozen cases.

The other memorable one was a small claims case at a JP (Justice of the Peace) court. Instead of being at the main courthouse downtown, it was at an annex, (the Chimney Rock one, for those familiar with Houston) and we didn't have to go through metal detectors or anything. They only needed six jurors, but I don't think they thought anybody would show up, so there was a whole horde of us. I was like #60 and sat at the back of the courtroom for voir dire. It was small claims so the only lawyer there was the judge and neither the plaintiff (someone who was unhappy with the job a mechanic did on her car) nor the defendant (the mechanic) knew anything about jury selection. That meant that they just took the first six people. I have no idea how it turned out.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 21, 2019 12:42 PM (edlKR)

188 #NEW: Democratic presidential candidate Cory Booker's campaign says he may end his run if he's unable to raise an additional $1.7 million in donations by Sept. 30 to remain competitive in a crowded primary field
*******
AWWWWWWWWWWW

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 21, 2019 12:42 PM (BqBId)

189 When I was on a jury, the judge got mad at me for not answering her stupid question correctly. She treated me like I was the one on trial. I have nothing but contempt for every court in this country. The "justice" system if a complete farce.

Posted by: Joe B at September 21, 2019 12:43 PM (6XZdO)

190 If people don't like B.C. then invent a new calendar.
Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 12:41 PM (LTccB)

B.C. is full of moonbats. That's why I got out.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 12:44 PM (jEgzt)

191

Having been a PoPo for 10 years I am immediately dismissed as soon as the questionnaires are reviewed.

But an illegal with a DL can sit and serve.

Posted by: Pendulous Richard at September 21, 2019 12:44 PM (UFLLM)

192
Isn't 12 Angry Men the one where a single juror convinces the other 11 jurors (via a long and arduous debate fraught with emotional upheaval) to change their 'guilty' votes to 'not guilty', only to change his own ''not guilty' vote 'guilty' at the last minute, just to be contrarian?

That was the spin-off "One Dead Juror"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 12:44 PM (aKsyK)

193 Also, they are the best example of how to ignore intersectionality, probably because they all have in common wanting not to be selected in the first place.

Very few people want to sit on a jury.

Posted by: Mongo Mere Pawn


Solution? Tell people upfront what they would be sitting on.

"Today we are trying a pedophile"

Watch how quick that room fills up.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2019 12:44 PM (VY2sw)

194 Muldoon--

FWIW, I live in a reddish-purple county in Texas. Could be part of the difference.

Also, the morons would have loved our judge. I did and so did my DIL, who was on a jury in his courtroom only a few months later.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 21, 2019 12:45 PM (S+f+m)

195 there have been countless reenactments of "12 angry men" in tv shows and movies. i'd like to see the story turned on its head, with the hero holding out for guilty and having to convince the other jurors who all want to acquit.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 12:45 PM (Pg+x7)

196 Why not lose that PC BCE bullshit!

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 12:46 PM (xkudx)

197 72 . . . Yes, I would have nullified.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand
___________

Mrs. Furious was on a jury for a case involving a disgruntled citizen who was guilty of x, but had also been charged with y by an ambitious prosecutor. The jury quickly agreed that the citizen was guilty of x and that he was technically guilty of y.

The jury was reluctant to find the citizen guilty of y, because the decision to also charge y appeared to be politically motivated and would clearly generate headlines that would be useful in any future political campaign for higher office. However, the y charge technically fit, so they didn't acquit, and they all felt horrible doing so.

Mrs. Furious didn't know about right of nullification (I know, I know, public schools, etc.) She swears that if there had been a nullification instruction, the citizen would still have been found guilty of x, but would have skated on y--the politically motivated charge.

Posted by: Furious George at September 21, 2019 12:47 PM (NaOCp)

198 there have been countless reenactments of "12 angry men" in tv shows and movies. i'd like to see the story turned on its head, with the hero holding out for guilty and having to convince the other jurors who all want to acquit.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp

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That one could be called "11 Ignorant Men and 1 Who Isn't a Fool."


Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 12:47 PM (LTccB)

199 "i'd like to see the story turned on its head, with the hero holding out for guilty and having to convince the other jurors who all want to acquit."

The American Crime Story OJ season had a little itty bit of that. White female juror who voted guilty quickly intimidated by guess who.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:48 PM (mk9aG)

200 Why not lose that PC BCE bullshit!
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at September 21, 2019 12:46 PM (xkudx)

Despite my little joke above, you won't catch me using it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 12:49 PM (jEgzt)

201 The American Crime Story OJ season had a little itty bit of that. White female juror who voted guilty quickly intimidated by guess who.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:48 PM (mk9aG)


Future criminal defendants?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 12:49 PM (A68IW)

202
"i'd like to see the story turned on its head, with the hero holding out for guilty and having to convince the other jurors who all want to acquit."

12 Happy Wymyn

All about convicting an evil deplorable man.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 12:49 PM (aKsyK)

203 "Future criminal defendants?" You win ten quatloos.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:50 PM (mk9aG)

204 Thanks for doing this topic, KT.

Has brought back a lot of memories.

*shudder*

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 12:51 PM (xgyDD)

205 O/T
Billy Fleming , landscape architecture professor at University of Pennsylvania says that in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!
Not much future for his stutents

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at September 21, 2019 12:51 PM (P4Pk9)

206

12 Angry white upper middle class cheating wine moms virtue signal a not guilty verdict for a handicapped black gay transexual serial killer: the stage play, now on ice at the OJ skating arena!

Posted by: Pendulous Richard at September 21, 2019 12:51 PM (UFLLM)

207 I was on a medical malpractice jury in Berkeley that involved a Jewish doctor and a black laborer.

Jury deliberations were kind of the Super Bowl of Prejudices. A black female law student and I used to go out to lunch together, as we were apparently the only two people paid any attention to the evidence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 12:52 PM (A68IW)

208 O/T
Billy Fleming , landscape architecture professor at University of Pennsylvania says that in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!
Not much future for his stutents
Posted by: MAC SOG'''

Well, maybe the professor should just retire while he can and the students can quit school and wander until the end.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 12:52 PM (BLFnH)

209 Did you hear about the fella who was arrested for taking a sign that said "Void Where Prohibited" too literally and urinating in public.

He asked to be tried by a jury of peers.




(Wait for it)

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:53 PM (m45I2)

210 "in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!"

Why not both? If it's apocalypse you want, go whole hog.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:54 PM (mk9aG)

211 Served on a jury trying a case of alleged kidnapping and assault (of an adult) by her baby daddy. It was pretty obviously a revenge ploy by the girl and her mom, and we acquitted him.

We did have to explain to one lady that "I don't like their looks" is not a valid reason to let him off.

The process moved pretty quickly, but I lost a little Leatherman going through security- just forgot I had it in my purse. I did have to stay overnight in a motel to be there on time, as I lived in another town and don't drive in the dark.

Glad to have had the experience. Wouldn't mind doing it again.


Posted by: Sal at September 21, 2019 12:54 PM (2qCi9)

212 Billy Fleming , landscape architecture professor at University of Pennsylvania says that in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!
Not much future for his stutents
Posted by: MAC SOG'''

Well, maybe the professor should just retire while he can and the students can quit school and wander until the end.
Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 12:52 PM (BLFnH)

Uh, how can both those be true?

/looks confused

Posted by: Don Q at September 21, 2019 12:54 PM (NgKpN)

213 If I am ever on a federal jury it's not guilty from me. Fuck you Deep State.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 21, 2019 11:00 AM (FiUMj)

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Me too LL. I will tell them that if the FIB is for one side I will vote against that side.... oh and to suck a nice greasy turd out of my asshole.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 21, 2019 12:54 PM (pw+jk)

214 Better to kill an innocent by mistake than spare an enemy by mistake.

Posted by: Zombie Pol Pot 2020 Democrat Presidential Candidate at September 21, 2019 12:54 PM (Z+IKu)

215 Speaking of movies by my count we should have a Movie thread tonight.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)

216 "I'm running because our country is at a moment of truth," Kennedy told supporters in the email.

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"And this truth shit is an existential threat to the Democratic Party and must be wiped out!" he continued.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 12:55 PM (+y/Ru)

217 "in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!"

While the rest of the world, climate saints that they are, point and laugh.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:55 PM (mk9aG)

218 My only jury experience was a DUI and what an eye opener it was. Cop followed a kid for 20 blocks, finally pulling him over for not coming to a complete stop at a right turn. Cop's body cam conveniently failed and we only had his partners from 20 ft away as he did the olympics. In my opinion he passed everything fine. They explained that this test checks say 20 things but if you fail 4 of them you are drunk. So that's not biased at all. Finally they had the kid blow and he blew a .10. After a state witness badly explained the test she says it has a plus minus .01 error margin. So at best he was .09, with .08 the limit.

In the jury room I got every piece of evidence dismissed except for the stupid breathalyzer. I'm not condemning driving while drunk but the deck is totally stacked against you even if you are perfectly fine to drive. The lesson is, DON'T blow. Ever. Make them get a warrant and take a blood sample.

My parents have been on a bunch of juries, including murder, meth labs, domestic violence. They are just lucky I guess. Guy I work with was on the Mathew Shepard trial. He says that was the biggest shit show he'd ever seen.

Posted by: Fletch at September 21, 2019 12:56 PM (Wxzj0)

219 "We're uninterested in your guilt or innocence. We're going to ruin you, in lawyer and court costs, if you don't plea deal." The need for reform is total.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 12:56 PM (LxTcq)

220 Uh, how can both those be true?

/looks confused
Posted by: Don Q at September 21, 2019 12:54 PM (NgKpN)

Beats me, and the university's are full of these assholes

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at September 21, 2019 12:56 PM (P4Pk9)

221 much of America will be under water or on fire!



********

Once again the planet demonstrates its equilibrium.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:57 PM (m45I2)

222 208 Why hold classes? Do it for free as I'm sure the university has 10 years of cash to blow.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 12:57 PM (ZCEU2)

223 "We did have to explain to one lady that "I don't like their looks" is not a valid reason to let him off."

Please talk to her again before Nov 2020. I hear that stuff from women talking about political candidates ALL THE TIME.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 12:57 PM (mk9aG)

224 Billy Fleming , landscape architecture professor at University of Pennsylvania says that in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!
Not much future for his stutents
Posted by: MAC SOG'''

Well, maybe the professor should just retire while he can and the students can quit school and wander until the end.
Posted by: Infidel

Walk the Earth like Kwai Chang Caine.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)

225 Walk the Earth like Kwai Chang Caine.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)


Why walk? Just hang around like him.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 12:58 PM (A68IW)

226 Billy Fleming , landscape architecture professor at University of Pennsylvania says that in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!
Not much future for his stutents

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On fire is just about right...

Twelve years, though?

Meh, I'm counting on much sooner.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2019 12:59 PM (RU4sa)

227 Right after I moved to my current sparsely populated area there was a unique situation where there was some kind of miscommunication on some jury case and only like half the jury showed up. I think it was some screwup by the clerk but instead of postponing the case, I think it was a DUI, the Judge sent the Sheriff out to get a few people off the street, and they did.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 21, 2019 01:00 PM (Mr80f)

228 While at least 20 years ago trial I was on being a personal injury case the 2 sides had lots to win or lose, wasn't a government DA who has a paycheck coming tomorrow in either case. It was winner take all so remember it as very professional.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 01:00 PM (ZCEU2)

229 Billy Fleming , landscape architecture professor at University of Pennsylvania says that in 12 years much of America will be under water or on fire!
Not much future for his stutents

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*raises hand* What about the rest of the world?

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 01:00 PM (BLFnH)

230 *raises hand* What about the rest of the world?
Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 01:00 PM (BLFnH)

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Pretty sure God mentions the world in Revelation.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2019 01:01 PM (RU4sa)

231 ...much of America will be under water or on fire!


*******


The lungs of the planet are just gargling!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 01:02 PM (m45I2)

232 *raises hand* What about the rest of the world?
Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 01:00 PM (BLFnH)


I think that whenever Warmists say that Bangladesh will be under water.

Problem? Not seeing it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 01:02 PM (A68IW)

233 My one experience with jury duty (many years ago in CA) taught me that most people are stupid and small-time lawyers are even worse.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 21, 2019 01:03 PM (QaUCE)

234 The lungs of the planet are just gargling!

Posted by: Muldoon

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Those darned lungs of the world never should have taken up vaping!

Posted by: RKae at September 21, 2019 01:03 PM (LTccB)

235 Oh, I know, SMH, I just wasn't very adept at pointing out the profs ignorance.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 01:04 PM (BLFnH)

236 The Arc of History has determined that we will be ruled by autistic teenage demons. And who wants to be on the wrong side of history?

Posted by: Ripley at September 21, 2019 01:04 PM (MxEKc)

237 uch of America will be under water or on fire!


**********


Oh, that can't be. The school children skipped class yesterday and held signs and stuff, so we've reversed the process.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 01:04 PM (m45I2)

238 court houses and facilities are built for criminals and lawyers and judges. then at the very bottom of all considerations: juries (cattle barns better in some cases)

Posted by: just do something at September 21, 2019 01:05 PM (0hOKG)

239 "Problem? Not seeing it."

Problem is that all the guilt-ridden progressives will fight to bring all "climate refugees" to America (despite our imminent burning or drowning,) because we "owe it to them" for our manifold American sins.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:05 PM (mk9aG)

240

In 12 years America will be covered with heap big firewater.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 01:05 PM (aKsyK)

241 What's that? 12 years!

Whew! For a second there I thought you said 12 MONTHS!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 01:07 PM (m45I2)

242 12 Angry Years

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 01:07 PM (m45I2)

243
Those darned lungs of the world never should have taken up vaping!
Posted by: RKae


Walmart says it will stop selling electronic cigarettes at its namesake stores and Sam's Clubs following a string illnesses and deaths related to vaping.

The nation's largest retailer said Friday that it will complete its exit from e-cigarettes after selling through current inventory. It cited growing federal, state and local regulatory complexity regarding vaping products.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 01:08 PM (aKsyK)

244 Open thread?

Days That End in 'Y' is up and running.

https://locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/2019/09/days-that-end-in-y_21.html

Posted by: BlackPantiesAngelsFace at September 21, 2019 01:08 PM (0BFUD)

245 Problem is that all the guilt-ridden progressives will fight to bring all "climate refugees" to America (despite our imminent burning or drowning,) because we "owe it to them" for our manifold American sins.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:05 PM (mk9aG)


Yep, there is that. I don't suppose we could get away with just sending them a boatload of rubber ducks?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 01:09 PM (A68IW)

246 The Arc of History has determined that we will be ruled byred-haired, freckle-faced autistic teenage demons.

********


Now THAT'S an Opie-oid crisis!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 01:09 PM (m45I2)

247 The jury I wish I served on was the one that convicted that concealed carrier who got shoved down by that big thug. No way would I have voted him guilty of "standing your ground" while actually "sitting on the ground." The world is a far better place without that belligerent thug he popped. Yes, I would have nullified.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 11:28 AM


You see belligerent thug. I see guy pushing crazy guy away from his wife/girlfriend. A ccw doesn't give you the power to enforce handicapped parking. I hope that asshole gets shanked in prison and dies painfully.

When I got my CCW they constantly stressed that if you are carrying you have to let stuff like getting cut off in traffic go. This guy thought it was a license to be a traffic enforcer.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 21, 2019 01:09 PM (rZTXM)

248 My jury experience was smooth, proceeded quickly and efficiently, was very professional. I made it to the courtroom where the jury questioning took place. I was dismissed because I had been the victim of a violent crime. Took about two hours total. Robbery case.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 21, 2019 01:10 PM (lwiT4)

249 "ISLAM IS RIGHT ABOUT WOMEN" Does not compute for the NPC. Maybe they will listen the next time we say that identity politics is divisive and poisonous.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 01:10 PM (LxTcq)

250
(Wait for it)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 21, 2019 12:53 PM (m45I2)

some puns call for elimination

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 01:12 PM (+72t1)

251 Fish Sticks,

Same here every time. I was told by a state prosecutor who I was dealing with on another matter that he would NEVER have an Engineer on a jury. Not emotionally vulnerable or something like that.

Posted by: pawn at September 21, 2019 01:13 PM (+LeF+)

252 "When I got my CCW they constantly stressed that if you are carrying you have to let stuff like getting cut off in traffic go. This guy thought it was a license to be a traffic enforcer."

I am a concealed carrier. Yes, I would never argue with ANY black person on the street. I practice situational awareness, stay out of all trouble. Nevertheless, I would have hung that jury. Black people have a notion that they can INITIATE violence whenever they feel disrespected, and I'm tired of it. I think the world is a better place without that belligerent thug.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:13 PM (mk9aG)

253 The Earf is DYING!!! *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms at September 21, 2019 01:14 PM (EgshT)

254 FACEBOOK DECLARES IT'S A 'PUBLISHER,' CAN CENSOR WHOMEVER IT WANTS...

Apparently Big Tech is now convinced that it can buy off any court, any jury and judge.

Then again, our libel laws are so worthless, they are essentially the enforceable equivalent of the Logan Act.

I wish there was a way to just save everyone time and just have a way to auction off my verdict to the highest bidder.

There is not a soul in the court-room who is the least bit interested in the law, duty or justice.

Both sides will gaslight the jury, suppress evidence and deliberately create opportunities for people to draw the wrong conclusions.

For example, I know that the Dallas police officer case involving gunning down a neighbor will be nothing but lies and distortions from both sides. It would not be possible for me to render a verdict based on law, ethics or the facts.

In a way, its the court-system performing a show trial against one of their own goons.

Why should I get involved in a family dispute?

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 01:15 PM (lD3vL)

255 Picked one time.
Became an alternate.
Assault case. Guy was guilty no doubt about it and he was found guilty. My iPad made the waiting easier.

Will do it again. Hoping to to be the lone not guilty vote in a case where a conservative mows down Antifa scum with an AR-15 in front of that Irish-Mexican. A big fuck you to all the Libtards.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at September 21, 2019 01:16 PM (QMwOT)

256 hubby is watching some documentary about Bill Gates & wife's philanthropy. Good grief the wife is annoying when she talks.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 01:17 PM (+72t1)

257 "When I got my CCW they constantly stressed that if you are carrying you have to let stuff like getting cut off in traffic go. This guy thought it was a license to be a traffic enforcer."

While it appears on the video that the thug was intimidated by the brandishing of the weapon, the defender was ON THE GROUND, and the thug could have closed that distance in one second, and possibly disarmed him. He didn't know if there were other thugs behind him waiting to jump in (like they OFTEN do.) I would hope that I myself would not have taken that bad shot, but I'm not going to jail that guy for taking it!

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:17 PM (mk9aG)

258 Jury Pool, sounds refreshing,but who am I to judge.
$9 a day to snooze in a comfy seat in an air conditioned room is doable.

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY.............

Posted by: saf at September 21, 2019 01:18 PM (5IHGB)

259 The Arc of History has determined that we will be ruled byred-haired, freckle-faced autistic teenage demons.

So Alfred E. Neuman

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at September 21, 2019 01:18 PM (P4Pk9)

260 got called for the first review for the Holyland foundation case. they pulled in 500 in 2 groups to fill out questionnaire. I stated that it was clear in the Quran that monetary support for Holy warriors was required of a good Muslim. they told me I as not required for duty. what I thought was interesting, is that they pulled quite a few from the WACO area where the ATF/FBI just murdered women and children (Davidians). and these prosecutors expected love for the government.

Posted by: just do something at September 21, 2019 01:19 PM (0hOKG)

261 Been summoned to county court three times during my residence here in the great northeastern sprawl.

The first time I was empaneled in criminal court in a narcotics-distribution trial of a low-level pusher. We found him guilty after two days of deliberations.

The second time I never made it out of the jury-assembly room.

The third time was a close call, but I was one of the last few potential jurors to be dismissed.

In the criminal trial, the jurors - a real cross-section of society - did a very thoughtful job of considering the evidence. But the perp's public defender didn't exactly go all out defending his client.

One thing I will never understand about our justice system is that the jurors are not allowed to bring their professional expertise to the jury deliberations. I think that's exactly backwards. I want a doctor or an engineer to bring their expertise to the jury deliberations because that provides more information - not opinion, not testimony, but information - for the deliberations that we would otherwise have had. I find the argument (see https://tinyurl.com/yyx78znc ) that experts in the jury room turn the jurors into advocates for one side or the other to be completely specious.

Posted by: crisis du jour at September 21, 2019 01:20 PM (qVX10)

262 Alfred E. Neuman

America is on the brink of ruin
Let him finish the job

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at September 21, 2019 01:20 PM (P4Pk9)

263

Opie-oid he was an Opie-oid
Happier than you and me
Opie-oid he was an Opie-oid
And it determined what he could see

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 01:21 PM (aKsyK)

264
Isaiah Washington
Sorry Christians, but Bitch Asses do Bitch Ass shit & it's EXHAUSTING. I'm shocked at the level of Beta Male Bitch Asses actually in charge of things today. It's profoundly astonishing, but hey, this is one Alpha Male that isn't going to "kiss the ring" and you shouldn't either.
*******
I think he has been Red Pilled

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 21, 2019 01:21 PM (BqBId)

265 Our daughters cut classes yesterday to shame you wingnut deniers. *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms at September 21, 2019 01:22 PM (EgshT)

266
Same here every time. I was told by a state prosecutor who I was
dealing with on another matter that he would NEVER have an Engineer on a
jury. Not emotionally vulnerable or something like that.
=====

Engineer kid was called (just started a job last year) and was actually disappointed because she was dismissed immediately. I told her to be thankful because very few cases that make it to a jury are clear-cut.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 21, 2019 01:23 PM (MIKMs)

267 I tend to get called for jury service a lot. No idea why. Never actually served on a jury, though. Every time I mention either that A. I work in media or B. I have multiple relatives in law enforcement, you can see the attorneys' eyes glaze over and I inevitably get dismissed.

One time I got called for jury service in a fairly big civil case and they asked me how I felt about awarding damages and I flat out told the defense lawyer there was no way I would ever vote to award eleventy bazillion-jazillion dollars or whatever for "pain and suffering." That got me struck really damn quick - though not as quickly as the guy next to me, who told them he was a business owner and he hated all lawyers.

They asked him why and he launched on a rant about how he'd been in business for 35 years and had nothing but endless legal headaches and how he'd paid millions of dollars to lawyers to fight off bullshit lawsuits. It got a lot of laughs from everyone except the lawyers, and he was the first guy struck from the pool.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at September 21, 2019 01:24 PM (20v0t)

268 Jury duty in my city is not very complicated. If you're called downtown, there's no parking. I have someone who can drive me, so it's not terrible, but it's a real pain in the butt. Security-wise, I don't remember it being difficult. You pass through before you go up to the waiting room. If you're lucky, you just read a book and go home, If not, you get called in a group to a courtroom.

I've only had to go down to the court once. Every other time that I've been up, I just called in the night before and was told not to show up. The one time I did have to go in, I was selected for a trial. It was a pretty simple process, although I didn't think I'd get picked, so I was surprised. Especially after I was made the foreman due to the fact that I was the only one who took notes and the other juror who originally volunteered for the position decided I was better at herding cats...

Mostly, after the whole thing, I was surprised at the ineptitude of both sides of the court - the prosecution and the defense (mostly on the defense side, though). Basically, if the defense wasn't such a piece of shit at the job, we'd have rendered a different verdict. But, no, the defense kept harping on some SJW nonsense that had no basis in reality and basically railroaded the defendant right at the end. I kind of wonder if the prosecution knew what was going to happen and that's why their case was presented in a quarter of the time it took the defense to present theirs.

Posted by: soulpile at September 21, 2019 01:24 PM (rwZk1)

269 Re: the Florida CCW shooter

Be sure you know the whole context. The shooter had prior incidents of pulling his gun on people who irritated him.

https://tinyurl.com/y5l7urwb

Similar to Chuck C's experience, my husband's CCW instructor emphasized repeatedly letting things slide rather than drawing your weapon. Drejka may have a concealed carry permit, but he's a dreadful representative.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 21, 2019 01:25 PM (S+f+m)

270 I'm an engineer. The second lawyers hear that they fight to remove me from the selection. Defense and prosecution. Happens everytime. One time no one was left and they agreed reluctantly to have me only as an alternate.

Posted by: bananaDream at September 21, 2019 01:26 PM (+96dr)

271 https://amgreatness.com
/2019/09/20/shamelessness-and-ignorance-unlimited/
Angelo Codevilla take on the current whistleblower

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 01:26 PM (ZCEU2)

272 "I hope that asshole gets shanked in prison and dies painfully." Clearly there is a wide wide gulf between your perception of justice and mine.

"This guy thought [his CCW] was a license to be a traffic enforcer." Maybe he was just annoyed by people flouting the law, regardless of whether he was a carrier or not. Have you considered that? Is it now WRONG for a citizen to call out a scofflaw? The woman was in NO danger, sitting in her car with the door shut. The carrier did NOT brandish his gun until AFTER he was attacked. I think you are full of shit.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:26 PM (mk9aG)

273
A black female law student and I used to go out to lunch together, as we were apparently the only two people paid any attention to the evidence.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

=======

You didn't talk about the case at lunch, did you? On the one case I ever sat on, I shared the lunch break with a fellow juror and we didn't say a word about the case. Just work, family, blah blah.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 01:27 PM (13CQC)

274 I don't understand why jurors don't get paid more

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 01:28 PM (+72t1)

275 Similar to Chuck C's experience, my husband's CCW instructor emphasized repeatedly letting things slide rather than drawing your weapon. Drejka may have a concealed carry permit, but he's a dreadful representative.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at September 21, 2019 01:25 PM (S+f+m)

Yup....I look at it as a win-win. Baby daddy thug dead, Ahole Drejka in the joint.

The lesson here is to avoid convenience stores as they tend to attract these kinds of low lifes and worse.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 01:29 PM (Z+IKu)

276
Once got called three times in a year:

1. End of Harris County jury duty cycle
2. City of Houston
3. Start of Harris County jury duty cycle

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 01:30 PM (WoNFz)

277


The answer to that last question, like most, is the ancient Greeks.




Al "the Historian" Sharpton: Them Greek homos stole our jury duty!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 01:30 PM (WCmdX)

278 Very different jury experiences.


First was best. Attempted murder case. DC, 4 white people, rest black [mostly womean, 3Os-4Os]. Two young white people roadblocked the attempted murder charge [victim had been shot 11-12 times, survived], stupidly - unbelievably dramatic real-life example of dumb race guilt causing damage. Black women were livid, and hilarious, in attempting to nudge the dumb white kids to "guilty". Was OK, guilty on 3 other counts, prosecutors said that was enough to get him off the street.


Power of the judge, and the jury, were impressive takeaways - prosecutors and defense bowing/scraping.


Dismissed from [enormous] jury pool for 2nd Microsoft anti-trust case, based on mostly-true reason that I had extensive travel impending.


Dismissed from two medical malpractice juries during voir dire after explaining I don't find a courtroom or juries a suitable forum for deciding such claims.


Voir dire should be reduced greatly, and maybe only the judge should be allowed to remove people, based on prosecution/defense questioning. Juries should not be engineered.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2019 01:31 PM (QDnY+)

279 Pled my way out of a recent jury by mentioning I am a sole caretaker of 90 and 86 year old parents. Judge grilled me and asked if I could pay for care (on retired pay) or coopt my working siblings with their vacation time. Finally got him with mom's cancer and dad's diabetes.
They really wanted me on the jury. Little did they know I have hung all previous juries I have served on. I REALLY require evidence, not they said, they said evidence.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 21, 2019 01:31 PM (mvUP9)

280 "my husband's CCW instructor emphasized repeatedly letting things slide rather than drawing your weapon."

YES, YES, situational awareness! I AGREE! I ALWAYS stay away from trouble. But I would most certainly have DRAWN my weapon after being shoved to the ground!! The shoot is the question here, not the draw!

I would nullify, and let somebody else convict the guy. I would refuse to find the guy guilty.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:31 PM (mk9aG)

281 I've been kicked off every jury panel that I was assigned to. Defense attorneys generally don't like engineers, but my favorite release occurred after the defendant gave an impassioned speech how his rights were being violated by both prosecutor and defense attorney alike. After he was hauled away by the bailiffs, the judge asked:

"Are there any jurors who cannot forget what they just heard?" I raised my hand and indicated that I was paying very close attention to everything being said because I thought I was supposed to. Kicked shortly after that.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 01:31 PM (o2vOl)

282 Once got called three times in a year:



1. End of Harris County jury duty cycle

2. City of Houston

3. Start of Harris County jury duty cycle



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 01:30 PM (WoNFz)



I think here, once you've been called, they can't call you again for 4 years. Something like that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 21, 2019 01:31 PM (lwiT4)

283
Voir dire should be reduced greatly, and maybe only the judge should be allowed to remove people, based on prosecution/defense questioning. Juries should not be engineered.

Posted by: rhomboid


That would destroy the premise of "Bull", so, no.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 01:33 PM (WoNFz)

284 I don't understand why jurors don't get paid more
=====

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think minimum wage is the benchmark.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 21, 2019 01:34 PM (MIKMs)

285 Why isnt jury duty my video conference?

Posted by: Jean at September 21, 2019 01:34 PM (B7KlG)

286
My sole experience of serving on a jury told me public perception ofthe intelligence of lawyers is grossly exaggerated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 01:35 PM (WoNFz)

287 Never called, Never served... 54yrs old! I have no idea what the fuss is over..

Posted by: catman (Instant Coffee is really pretty good!)) at September 21, 2019 01:36 PM (4HMlb)

288 off sock

Posted by: catman at September 21, 2019 01:37 PM (4HMlb)

289
Voir dire should be two questions.

Do you know the defendant or plaintiff?
Do you know either lawyers?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 01:38 PM (WoNFz)

290
159 "I'm running because our country is at a moment of truth," Kennedy told supporters in the email. "Donald Trump has forced a long overdue reckoning in America. And how we respond will say everything about who we are."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 12:26 PM (aKsyK)

---

It would be a more impressive statement if he'd zipped up his fly first.
hi

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 21, 2019 01:39 PM (t5m5e)

291 About 6 months ago I got summoned for jury duty. It not being my first time getting a summons here in SoCal, I figured I'd go on Monday (you have the option to just pick a day if you schedule it) and get it over with.
Big mistake.
Apparently everyone picks Monday if they think to schedule it, so the jury room was packed. Luckily I wasn't there long because I got sent to a courtroom to fill out a pool almost immediately.
Then the real fun began.
It was a jury for a murder trial. Once they went through all the people they could excuse for hardship reasons, which did not include me because my employer pays me for serving, they immediately said we were all excused fort eh day but had to come back tomorrow for the start of Voir Dire because they had to go through 3 pools to get enough to start the process because they were expecting a 3 week trial. I sat there in that stupid courtroom for two more days, without being asked a single question, until they finally had enough for the jury. And all along I knew I would never be on the jury, because my personal feelings about self-defense do not match CA law, and I don't have any problem voting against CA law if I think I should.
But, hey, I got a 3 day paid vacay, even if it was the most boring 3 days of my life.

Posted by: Wyfaggro at September 21, 2019 01:39 PM (b9Rab)

292 In the attempted murder case, it was amazing how little evidence there was, but it was persuasive. I remember the whole thing was out of Bonfire of the Vanities - even a "crack ho" witness who was key to the case. A single shell casing [2 shooters, one whose semi jammed .... ha!].


But all jurors were troubled by what we couldn't find out. Didn't affect the reasonable doubt issue for the charges, but all were dissatisfied we couldn't get a few specific bits of info.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2019 01:41 PM (QDnY+)

293 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think minimum wage is the benchmark.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 21, 2019 01:34 PM (MIKMs)

Pennsylvania's minimum wage is $7.25/ hour
Pennsylvania jurors get $9/ day

wondering what the formula is...

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 01:42 PM (+72t1)

294 There's no more Kennedy "glamour." It's all gone.
JFK was elected in 1960, a lifetime ago. 60 years is the same stretch of time between the end of the Civil War and 1925.

If the Democrats believe they can still get by on that manufactured Camelot (and they do), they're in for a rude awakening.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 21, 2019 01:43 PM (NFEMn)

295
If the Democrats believe they can still get by on that manufactured Camelot (and they do), they're in for a rude awakening.
Posted by: JoeF.

======

Really? What do you want to bed Joe K III gets elected without even trying?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 01:44 PM (13CQC)

296 It is $9 buck a day.Minimum wage would be $9 an hour,,,,you are struck off get out the pool NOW or I'll sic Biden on ya.

Posted by: saf at September 21, 2019 01:44 PM (5IHGB)

297 Melania has real glamour

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 01:45 PM (+72t1)

298 Really? What do you want to bed Joe K III gets elected without even trying?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 01:44 PM (13CQC)

I meant for a eventual presidential run--and he and the Dems are planning on that--but I hit "post" too soon.

Yes, he'll win this election.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 21, 2019 01:45 PM (NFEMn)

299 This post still on top? Huh. Maybe I can bewillow it here.

Was chosen for jury duty in a case where an elderly gent (whose age then I probably am now) was suing Goodwill because he said some bicycles on a table fell over on him.

He brought to court a VCR, TV set (bulky CRT), some other stuff, and himself for a lawyer. I thought: This should be good.

Goodwill's shark hardly let old dude say anything without some procedural objection. No, you can't use your VCR and TV. No, you can't this or that. And so on. Cassius Clay versus Bambi - horrible slaughter.

Case dismissed in less than an hour.

Driving home, I saw the old guy trudging down the street, pulling a little Red Flyer wagon, with the VCR, TV, etc. Pretty sad.

Posted by: mindful webworker - nullificationary at September 21, 2019 01:47 PM (MZVOx)

300 In terms of history, that referenced article omitted about 1,000 years of development. It's true that the Ancient Athenians used mass pools of citizens for everything, but obviously this was so unwieldy that it died out completely at that time. In Roman times, judgement had gone back to the default position, and the local ruler, or someone designated by him, presided over cases and made all important rulings. (Even Henry II of England still presided over the most important legal cases of his day) The great Roman Innovation was to allow Advocates (ad - vocare, "to speak for") on the part of both the prosecution and defense, which no one else had done before.

But OUR jury system owes its beginnings mainly to the Saxons, always an extremely independent people who were loathe to allow any one man to have power over them. They had kings, but their kings were selected by a group of nobles and could be unselected. The Saxons were the ones who insisted that no single Judge could pass sentence on any of them, and instead they would only submit to being judged by a groups of their equals. (it wasn't always 12 in the beginning, but it was always a group of equals)

So our Jury systems have come down to us from our cultural ancestors who, although they were called "barbarians", have ALWAYS insisted on never being subject to the power of any one man, and who always prized the power to rule themselves.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 01:48 PM (trdmm)

301 Codevilla piece is good, just long form of what many of us instantly observed about the ridiculous intel "whistleblower" crap. Haven't finished yet, dunno if he gets into the very disturbing question of WTF is the intel IG doing "investigating" presidential foreign policy making??


Another reminder that the system is unlikely to work if we don't have an opposition political party, and will derail dramatically when we have only two parties, all of one and most of another teaming up to dynamite the system in order to block action by a president.



Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2019 01:48 PM (QDnY+)

302
U.S. Rep. Joe Kennedy III formally declared his candidacy for the U.S. Senate on Saturday, becoming the first member of the Kennedy political dynasty to bid for the upper chamber of Congress since Edward M. Kennedy in 1962.

Gotta kill a woman first, Joe.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 01:49 PM (WoNFz)

303 I was called for jury duty --and reported in 1982. I was rejected because my sister worked at the Courthouse.

After that, every time I was called, I gave my sister the summons and it was "taken care of."

She retired last year and I don't know what I'll do the next time I get called.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 21, 2019 01:50 PM (NFEMn)

304 There I was, face to face with Corn Pop's cousin: Caramel Corn Pop...

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2019 01:50 PM (o2vOl)

305 KT, no snark here; serious question:

>>>One person near me in line outside the building I would not have wanted on a jury.

Would some fellow citizens want that person on a jury? A jury of some people's peers, just not yours?

Posted by: m at September 21, 2019 01:52 PM (hnjoD)

306 Several calls for just duty. So far, never served.

Called for a civil case. Bailiff leading us to court room when very suddenly, the screaming started. Shortly thereafter, a crying woman burst out of the room.

The jury pool had quite the show. Family came out to talk to her, lawyers came out to talk to family and her. More yelling in the courtroom, etc.

Finally the whole mess quiets down.

Long wait.

Everybody leaves.

Jury pool enters and Judge explains due to the importance of a clean, unbiased start to the trial, and since none of us can unsee what just happened, we are all dismissed.

Posted by: Adriane the Mail Order Writing Course Critic ... at September 21, 2019 01:52 PM (LPnfS)

307 You didn't talk about the case at lunch, did you? On the one case I ever sat on, I shared the lunch break with a fellow juror and we didn't say a word about the case. Just work, family, blah blah.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 01:27 PM (13CQC)


In honesty, yeah we did. We weren't supposed to, but we did.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 21, 2019 01:52 PM (A68IW)

308 >> (Instant Coffee is really pretty good!))
>> catman

No.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 01:53 PM (o2vOl)

309 There I was, face to face with Corn Pop's cousin: Caramel Corn Pop...
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2019 01:50 PM (o2vOl)

And his parents, Ma and Kettle Pop Corn--and his drug-dealing little brother, Jimmy Crack....

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2019 01:54 PM (NFEMn)

310 Was called three times, ended up on only one, a civil trial with six jurors. The plaintiff's lawyer was either incompetent or edging into senility or both. The plaintiff had walked from behind a building into the path of a taxi moving slowly in an alley (admitted by the plaintiff). We spent most of the time in the jury room chatting so it wouldn't be clear we'd already decided in the first ten minutes against the plaintiff.

The second time I got ripped up one side and down the other by the prosecutor and then tossed because I dared to say I didn't agree with mandatory sentences. It was probably just as well; the plaintiff came in with two friends, all wearing nice suits and lookin' fine. The defendant was wearing rumpled shorts and a tshirt with no one but his attorney. What it looked like was the plaintiff was a bully who had been popped one when his target's last nerve snapped. The prosecutor seemed to think a bloody mouth with maybe a tooth lost was the most horrible thing ever. I was surprised by the lack of any weapons.

Posted by: Lirio100 at September 21, 2019 01:54 PM (JK7Jw)

311 >> 305 KT, no snark here; serious question:

>> Would some fellow citizens want that person on a jury?
>> A jury of some people's peers, just not yours?

Oh look: A concern troll.

Posted by: 40 miles north at September 21, 2019 01:54 PM (o2vOl)

312 From a good ways upthread...

"S. Dakota is a well run state."

Unless you speak to tourism and tell them you're looking for a fairly low traffick lake you can rent a small boat and cabin on to do some yellow perch and walleye fishing on.

Then you get sent a package of booklets about nothing but big lodges and hotels.

Posted by: teej at September 21, 2019 01:54 PM (EVeeU)

313 Garden NOOD is up

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 01:57 PM (ZCEU2)

314

There's an old Burt Reynolds movie on tv that I've never seen: Shamus.

It's pretty good.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 01:58 PM (Baq/1)

315 There's an old Burt Reynolds movie on tv that I've never seen: Shamus.
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Is Burt hunting killer whales in that one??

Posted by: andycanuck at September 21, 2019 01:59 PM (Dh1wo)

316

It made me think of Shamu, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 02:00 PM (Baq/1)

317 My father has always been a big law and order man, and I was really proud of him on the one serious jury he was on. A man was accused of assaulting a women and her child at a park, at first glance it seemed like a slam dunk conviction. But he told me that as the evidence was presented, it became clear to him that the accused, who had no criminal record, was deaf, and who had a bad speech impediment, had in fact been the victim of the incident (which turned out to be much more complicated than it appeared) and that no one in the police department had paid much attention to anything he tried to say because his communication abilities were so impaired. (the accuser was cute, a fast talker, and in his opinion quite manipulative) He eventually convinced his jury to find the man innocent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 02:03 PM (trdmm)

318 Codevilla's piece is outstanding in that it notes how the outrageous unconstitutional behavior of individuals and institutions today, or their confidence that they can do this crap with impunity, relies on ignorance and apathy in the public.



Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2019 02:03 PM (QDnY+)

319
I think Dianne Cannon is in this movie.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 02:10 PM (Baq/1)

320 Going for jury duty has always been rather straightforward for me. I take mass transit, which is a 90 minute haul. If I drove I could expect to get towed or pay $50+ for parking. Getting in is usually just walking through, but may be a 5 minute line, and rarely a 15 minute line.

Way back when panel selection was ridiculous. I spent three days sitting around the first time, before getting selected for a pool, then another day waiting to get empaneled for voir dire, being rejected, then another day before being dismissed after a week of reading.
The last two times have been close to a vacation. Penultimate time I was selected for a pool within an hour, send home for the voir dire the next day, empaneled and selected and sent home by lunch, skip a day, come in Thursday and told to wait for an hour, and they settled. Last time was selected for a pool 5 minutes after attendance, empaneled in the first group, then 1-2-3 reasons I would be biased - for both sides! Back to the waiting room and dismissed 15 minutes later.

In the past I was on the jury for a civil case for a guy who lives a block away from in a major housing complex. Never heard or saw him before, and I expected to go home but they kept me.
I was an alternate on a criminal case. I thought it was open and shut for reasonable doubt. No idea what the rest of the jury thought. Funniest part was the ADA looked like James Woods and the PD looked like Penn Jillette.

Posted by: Sam at September 21, 2019 02:13 PM (ohyxL)

321
She retired last year and I don't know what I'll do the next time I get called.
Posted by: JoeF.

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Serve.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 02:14 PM (13CQC)

322
I meant for a eventual presidential run--and he and the Dems are planning on that--but I hit "post" too soon.

Yes, he'll win this election.
Posted by: JoeF.

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Ah yes, the Kennedy presidency. That dream will never die, and with any luck it will never become a reality.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 02:16 PM (13CQC)

323 YES, YES, situational awareness! I AGREE! I ALWAYS stay away from trouble. But I would most certainly have DRAWN my weapon after being shoved to the ground!! The shoot is the question here, not the draw!
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 01:31 PM


Earlier you commented the victim could close within one second. The Tueller drill is for reacting to a charge, drawing, aiming and firing. Idiot CCW already had the fun out and aimed. The victim was retreating (Why didn't he retreat faster? His wife/girlfriend is near a crazy asshole with a gun.)

I revise my earlier statement. I now hope idiot CCW gets shanked, doesnt die, and spends his 25 to life in extreme pain. It is assholes like him than give gun owners a bad name.

Also: "Have you considered that? Is it now WRONG for a citizen to call out a scofflaw? The woman was in NO danger, sitting in her car with the door shut. The carrier did NOT brandish his gun until AFTER he was attacked. I think you are full of shit"

He could have taken a picture of the plate and forwarded it to the proper authorities. As for "full of shit", fuck you.

Posted by: Chuck C at September 21, 2019 02:19 PM (zCabI)

324 Went to county courthouse once for jury selection. Think it was a personal injury suit. Filled out questionnaire asking if I had ever been sued or part of any litigation. Answered, no.

During voire dire was asked if I had any personal bias in case. Stated that as business owner I was was part of many frivolous lawsuits from liars and cheats. Defense atty seemed pissed and asked why I didn't answer that way on questionnaire. I said because it was my corporation that was sued and not me personally.

Judge laughed and said "Don't you have a business to run?" After answering, yes, he dismissed me.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 02:21 PM (gzG43)

325 Why does President Trump not wear glasses?

Because he's already got 2020.

Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 02:24 PM (Cssks)

326 The secret of jury nullification is we don't talk about jury nullification.

Was about to go on vacation
When I got a notification
To judge fellow man
As best as we can
And maybe use nullification

I dunno... all three end in "cation." Is that kosher rhyming?

Posted by: mindful webworker - nullificationary at September 21, 2019 02:30 PM (MZVOx)

327 Called several times. Best one was as an alternate juror. The plaintiff's attorney asked everyone else if they could give his client a fair hearing, but didn't ask me. Answer would have been "One look at that weasely bastard means I will burn in Hell before I will find for him", but they never asked.

Posted by: Andrew B at September 21, 2019 02:32 PM (sxNVv)

328 The last jury duty I got called for was for an illegal alien parasite caught dealing drugs. I got excused because of college classes, but the man sitting next to me told the judge that no way in hell would he sit on a jury for an illegal alien -- he got swept out of the courtroom before he could say another word. The illegal got a court appointed translator, a lawyer, and some other perks that I am sure a U.S. citizen would never get.

Posted by: AzDesertRat at September 21, 2019 02:36 PM (/2TXu)

329 still related to the courts I guess, from the previous thread, Huck calls Coulter a slimy liar for her accurate quote from Barrett. Also adds Barrett was just a law clerk then, so it doesn't really count (it was 1998, she was a law prof' I think). And claims that she was not referring to herself but to faithful Catholics (like herself).


But Barrett basically confirmed those statements when asked about them at her confirmation in 2017. And if a judge does not enforce a law (recusing instead) then they are deferring to the pope, not the constitution. She did say she could participate in some capital cases, maybe, under certain situations ... but at SCOTUS level, recusal is giving away a vote.


The left doesn't like her due to abortion mainly, but her statements about Pope JP being the standard for her not ordering an execution (which as I understand it, is rather new Catholic dogma, older Catholic dogma supported it) ... is a concern, especially with the new commie pope setting standards for the Catholic Church. I don't know if there are other areas of law she might need to "stand down" and let the liberals decide.


"She acknowledged that, if she were instead being nominated to serve as a federal trial judge, she "would not enter an order of execution," but she assured senators that she did not intend "as a blanket matter to recuse myself in capital cases if I am confirmed" and added that she had "fully participated in advising Justice Scalia in capital cases as a law clerk."

https://tinyurl.com/y3mv9b7z

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 02:38 PM (Cus5s)

330 Black lady sitting next to me on jury selection told judge it was against her religious beliefs to be on jury. Said it was not her place to judge, only God's. She was dismissed.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 02:42 PM (gzG43)

331

test

Posted by: irongrampa at September 21, 2019 02:43 PM (KATBx)

332 I don't trust Barrett just because she's female. We've never had a Margaret Thacher type on SCOTUS. Maybe if Coulter herself gets nominated, lol.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 02:48 PM (knNho)

333 Juries are worthless without a society that has at least a certain amount of cohesion. Things are only going to get more stupid from here on out.

Posted by: lurker (the other one, but spelled with a P) at September 21, 2019 02:54 PM (67XdO)

334 Barrett has already opened a can of worms with her death penalty recusal plan. If she gets confirmed the leftys will insist she recuse from abortion cases, religious liberty cases, etc.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 02:55 PM (knNho)

335 My week just gets better. Locked keys and cigs in car at grocery store.

Posted by: Infidel on ph at September 21, 2019 03:00 PM (MZVOx)

336 317 My father has always been a big law and order man, and I was really proud of him on the one serious jury he was on.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 02:03 PM (trdmm)

Yay, dad.

Posted by: m at September 21, 2019 03:38 PM (hnjoD)

337 I lost all respect for judges in the justice system the day I was summoned for jury duty in California last year.

I was selected to be asked questions in federal court for juror selection. The female judge introduced herself, babbled about how important the system was, blabla, and proceeded to "inform" us potential jurors where the bathroom was located and that we were free to use any bathroom we wanted. She made it a point to emphasize that part.

This was months after Trump had specifically repealed the twisted gender-neutral bathroom policy established by Hussein.

How could a judge pretend to disregard a rule that clearly was no longer valid? Partisan hacks in black (aka Obama/Clinton judges) truly are scum.

Add the FBI and the DOJ to the mix and it gets worse. The American justice system is deader than dead to me.

Posted by: rongo at September 21, 2019 03:54 PM (2Cm6i)

338 Trials will get more political as Leftists have made everything politically. So it will be a matter of the political side then getting your jury to hear the case.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 03:54 PM (ZCEU2)

339 served once: illegal alien #1 and illegal alien #2 were drunk.

supposedly the guy hit the girl, but no one saw anything.

cops driving by see drunk disheveled woman on sidewalk, arrest drunk disheveled man.

we get called in to serve, in the town where i grew up, and, since no one wants to be foreman, i am.

woman recants/defends boyfriend on stand, tears her clothes, chews the inside of her mouth until blood comes out, and says she's like that all the time.

half the jurors wanted to convict, the other half, including me, said FTS.

judge made us argue it some more, but no one would budge.

total waste of time, and both of them should have been deported instead of put into the legal system.

i'll never be on another jury: the entire system is corrupt and they can all kiss my ass.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 21, 2019 04:46 PM (woiyT)

340 Been summoned 3 times ins SC. Actually sat as a juror once. Traffic wreck. A couple with a young girl was rear ended by an out of town contractor. The husband was playing up a bad back every time we walked into the jury box. All of them were treated only by a chiropractor (after the ER trip) for 2 years. The chiropractor determined that they were disabled to varying degrees. We didn't buy that version. When we adjourned for the day, several of us arrived early the next morning to watch the couple enter the courthouse. The crossed a low lying ditch with ease. We decided the defendant had to pay all of the girl's medical bills and 6 months worth of bills for the adults. We reasoned after 6 months, if you aren't getting better you need to change doctors. No damages for any permanent injury claim either.

Posted by: The Guy at September 21, 2019 04:52 PM (B0t/V)

341 "Norse. Saxons. Common practice among northern Europeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_trial_by_jury_in_England

Greeks. Pfeh. They didn't have juries. They had mobs.
Posted by: Apostate at September 21, 2019 11:34 AM (hZ4Kc) "

I missed this when it was a new thread, but this is correct. Our jury system has nothing at all to do with the Greek legal system, or the Roman one for that matter. By the time the English system of law was more than, "My sword is bigger than yours," all of the classical legal systems were semi-barbarous at best, anyhow. The jury system we have came out of the Viking and Anglo-Saxon legal systems. The link Apostate provided is actually a good read.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at September 21, 2019 04:55 PM (lXZ2r)

342 Greetings:

Whatever happened to "Somebody get a rope." ???

Posted by: 11B40 at September 21, 2019 04:58 PM (evgyj)

343 I missed this when it was a new thread, but this is correct. Our jury system has nothing at all to do with the Greek legal system, or the Roman one for that matter. By the time the English system of law was more than, "My sword is bigger than yours," all of the classical legal systems were semi-barbarous at best, anyhow. The jury system we have came out of the Viking and Anglo-Saxon legal systems. The link Apostate provided is actually a good read.
Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at September 21, 2019 04:55 PM (lXZ2r)

But as was pointed out earlier, we can thank the Romans for lawyers and prosecutors.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 21, 2019 05:22 PM (NFEMn)

344 Smart, is a recessive gene in the Kennedy pool.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 05:43 PM (WkaWu)

345 114 .. License to Lie by Sydney Powell, Gen. Mike Flynn's new lawyer, is about the misconduct in the Stevens case, as well as the misconduct in the Arthur Anderson and Merril Lynch cases.

The prosecutors were not only NOT fired, but ended up being in charge of the Mueller investigation (Andrew Weismann) and Chief White House Cousel under Obama (Kathryn Ruemmler).

I was listening to Ms. Powell just yesterday on this subject:

https://youtu.be/1hUNITkseos

It is terrifying what she experienced and which caused her to write her book, and she is dealing with the same shit in the Flynn case, but fortunately she has Judge Emmett Sullivan on that case.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2019 11:57 AM (xgyDD)

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 05:52 PM (WkaWu)

346 Article 39 of Magna Carta

No free man shall be captured or imprisoned or disseised of his freehold or of his liberties, or of his free customs, or be outlawed or exiled or in any way destroyed, nor will we proceed against him by force or proceed against him by arms, but by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.

Posted by: Always Late at September 21, 2019 06:03 PM (WkaWu)

347 Post to check out new keyboard

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 08:35 PM (jEgzt)

348 "...that palladium of civil liberty and only safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen." - Texas Declaration of Independence

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (bFYPm)

349 I found many people on juries to be idiots, not swayed by reason, logic nor evidence, If the accused was charged with 7 crimes, each dependent on being convicted on the other crimes, for example mail fraud, intend to defraud, theft, etc, there were those who'd convict on one count and ignore the other counts.

One juror said, "he looks like my nephew and my nephew could never do that." With intellect like that I do not believe it is possible to get 100% agreement on anything with any group of people.

Best bet is a selection pool of say 20 people no eliminations for any reason. Majority vote carries the day but forces the penalty phase to a new jury. Two thirds conviction forces a mandated punishment; a 90% verdict forces execution of sentence within three months, no exceptions. Death bed confessions carry no weight as do accusations made after 7 years of the alleged crime.

Judges may not dismiss charges. Judges may not decides what punishments are to be levied. Judges are umpires, nothing more or less.

Anyone breaking the regulations governing the trila, defense attorneys, prosecutors, judges, legal staffs, shall be punished in the same fashion as the crime being tried. IE if the charge is murder and any party deliberate breaking the rules through hiding evidence, threatening witnesses, destroying evidence, etc. if the penalty is 30 years- life and death this is what could be imposed on those who break the rules in such a trial.

Our judicial system is a bad joke. Defendents walk after 7 years for murder, 4 years for rape. We now will have "non-violent offenders" being released-ie the guy who points a gun at you while car jacking your car is non violent? The choirboy who burned down your home, stole your life savings shouldn't serve a full term in jail?

The worst are bad cops who use their authority to kill. Worse are the judges who defend them. The wrst are the politicians who sanction them all.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (Ju2mK)

350 42 years old, lived in my original hometown for all of my adult life, 7k parish seat of a 33k parish. One jury duty summons. "Call the Choupique Parish Courthouse the day before the summons for further instructions." I did so, and got a recording that jury duty had been cancelled. I hung up the phone, glad that I didn't have to go. Then, mild PANIC. Choupique Parish is so poor that they might fine someone for contempt for not showing up even though they were told otherwise. I called again on my landline, played the message again, and recorded it with my cel phone to play for Deputies Ennis and Cleatus if they should be so bold as to try to bust me. The criminals know Choupique Parish is poor, too. DA says a guilty verdict at a trial is 15 years, but plead guilty now and it'll be 10 or less with good behavior. Perp thinks he can do better, tells DA he wants a trial and figures the DA will offer 7 or less because trials and more jail time cost money they don't have. DA says have it your way. Summons are sent out, potential jurors sit in the courthouse lobby, perp is brought out and shown that all of these people showed up to put him in jail. Perp changes his mind on the spot, takes 10. Very few jury trials in Choupique Parish, just low ball pleas.

Posted by: hurricane567 at September 22, 2019 02:31 AM (ddcNI)

351 Called for jury duty three weeks ago in W. Virginia, assuming it would be for something trivial. 70 citizens show up, 20 chosen at random as potential jurors. Told it's a criminal trial involving charges of attempted murder, kidnapping, and other serious alleged crimes. These 20 were then questioned as a group about what they might know about the case, whether they know the victim, defendant, or any of the attorneys involved. Also asked about any potential biases for or against law enforcement testimony, etc. As the questioning goes on a number of the potential jurors get weeded out for answering in the affirmative to various questions. When this happens new people from the original 70 are picked to replace them. Towards the end of the questioning an EMT disclosed that he worked closely with police and would tend to believe their testimony more so than an ordinary witness. He was dismissed and my name announced to the court as the last replacement. Judge asked me if I had heard the questions and whether I would have answered "yes" to any of them. I told her no.

Prosecutors and defense attorney then retired with the judge to chambers for ten minutes, came back and announced the 14 (12+2 alternates) who would make up the jury. All of this took about three hours. Judge decided they'd break for lunch and the trial would start with opening statements when the court resumed 80 minutes later.

Defendant was an African American male who allegedly carjacked a man at gunpoint, and after telling the victim to drive to a remote location shot him twice, leaving him to bleed out on the side of the road. Through a series of miracles the victim survived but will spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair. All of this had happened three years ago a couple miles from my home, and yet I knew nothing of it. Oh, and the defendant was 16 years old when he allegedly committed these acts.

Long story short, I was/am torn up over the case. The evidence of the kid's guilt was overwhelming, including several eye witnesses who identified him, and a confession to the police after he was apprehended. BUT HE WAS SIXTEEN AT THE TIME. Like most kids that age he was young and stupid, and reading between the lines it doesn't appear his parents took a whole lot of responsibility for his upbringing (he was essentially homeless at the time). As a jury we were compelled to follow the law, but in finding the defendant guilty did we condemn a teenager to spend the bulk of his life behind bars for one stupid (albeit terrible) act? Sentencing won't be for another month, and I'm hoping the judge shows some mercy as the kidnapping conviction alone has the potential for a life sentence.

One other point -- the 13 others who made up the jury and alternates were among the best and noblest people I've ever met. Random strangers thrown together trying (under the law) to do the right thing for everybody involved. The passion and integrity of those men and women will stay with me for the rest of my life.

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1 Love that cup!

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 08:38 AM (cF8AT)

2 @realDonaldTrump 7 minutes ago

The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, want to stay as far away as possible from the Joe Biden demand that the Ukrainian Government fire a prosecutor who was investigating his son, or they won't get a very large amount of U.S. money, so they fabricate a.....

....story about me and a perfectly fine and routine conversation I had with the new President of the Ukraine. Nothing was said that was in any way wrong, but Biden's demand, on the other hand, was a complete and total disaster. The Fake News knows this but doesn't want to report!

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 08:39 AM (cF8AT)

3 Finally!

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 08:39 AM (UUBmN)

4 I'm talkin' to myself.....aka a day ending in y.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 08:40 AM (cF8AT)

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Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:41 AM (kQs4Y)

6 Morning Tami.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 21, 2019 08:41 AM (uDh3k)

7 Morning Maud'dib!

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 08:42 AM (cF8AT)

8 Morning Tami and Eris.
I woke early also.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 08:42 AM (7EIHE)

9 @realDonaldTrump 7 minutes ago
The Fake News knows this but doesn't want to report!
Posted by: Tami

Could I love him any more? I don't think so. Folks, we're gonna miss him when he's gone. I don't see one Repub that can take the fight straight to them.

Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:43 AM (VNfwt)

10 Ben Had,
A better week is a relative term.... no, I do not feel like I had a better week. I dread my job now. If I can hang on a little longer, less than a year, I think I have an out.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 08:43 AM (UUBmN)

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Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 08:43 AM (7EIHE)

12 I want that mug.

Morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2019 08:43 AM (gzG43)

13 That's Mrs. Franpsycho's mug.

She never fills it past the 2nd line

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2019 08:44 AM (EZebt)

14 Need to make cup #2.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:44 AM (mitVr)

15 That mug. LOL!

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Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 08:45 AM (cF8AT)

17 That mug would make a great gift for my daughter.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 08:47 AM (dUJdY)

18 Morning Winston. Good morning all.



I've got a deployment party to attend today. One of my employees is heading to the sand box. I'm not thrilled with the timing, to be honest.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 21, 2019 08:47 AM (uDh3k)

19 ha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OslWqLHlCvw

still funny

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2019 08:50 AM (JFO2v)

20 Is there anyone the Clintons, Barack Mugabe and Joe Biden haven't shaken down for fun and profit?

They make even the Songbird blush.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:50 AM (Z+IKu)

21 I almost feel sorry for the poor dusky-hued schmuck:

https://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:51 AM (kQs4Y)

22 21 I almost feel sorry for the poor dusky-hued schmuck:

https://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:51 AM (kQs4Y)

tff

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2019 08:53 AM (JFO2v)

23 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:53 AM (arJlL)

24 So Trump is to blame for the attack on the Saudi oil facilities... why it was FDR to blame for Japan attacking Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 08:54 AM (pHzVy)

25 Eris,

Imagine Justine Trudeau as an Ooompa-Loompa

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 08:55 AM (pHzVy)

26
Heading off to a show in Belton. I'll be handling Delilah, which should be amusing to watch.

I'm less scared of losing than Her Majesty lecturing me for three hours on the trip home about what I should have done.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 08:55 AM (7rVsF)

27 24 So Trump is to blame for the attack on the Saudi oil facilities... why it was FDR to blame for Japan attacking Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 08:54 AM (pHzVy)

Funny that Reagan does not get credit from bringing down USSR!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2019 08:55 AM (JFO2v)

28 OK. I'm back!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:57 AM (MVjcR)

29 Welcome back, Weasel !

Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:57 AM (arJlL)

30 9. He said to the press: Keep asking questions and blowing this up, it'll make your downfall even worse!

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (r9gUQ)

31 Thank God, Weasel! We were descending into chaos!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (kQs4Y)

32
Funny that Reagan does not get credit from bringing down USSR!

Posted by: rhennigantx


It was:
1. Rock music
2. Nuclear freezers
3. The Kremlin committed suicide

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (7rVsF)

33 I was a kid when my mother, genetically Democrat, told me seriously that Republicans started all the wars and Dems had to fight and end them.
Now, I'm not an historian but even as a kid in grade school I knew that was rank nonsense.
I just nodded my head and started paying attention more.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (7EIHE)

34 If Biden were elected he would be wise to hire Hillary his Shakedown Advisor. He lavks that subtle touch.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2019 08:59 AM (NVYyb)

35 Just got here, but gotta go; F1 qually starting. But, Blutarski's right. Where are we going to find a champion to continue the fight after Trump's second term is over? This swamp cleaning is going to take generations. (It was generations in the making.)

Posted by: itsacookbook at September 21, 2019 08:59 AM (yPxXc)

36 32
It was:
1. Rock music
2. Nuclear freezers
3. The Kremlin committed suicide

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (7rVsF)


Don't forget blue jeans.

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 08:59 AM (sdi6R)

37 32
Funny that Reagan does not get credit from bringing down USSR!

Posted by: rhennigantx

It was:
1. Rock music
2. Nuclear freezers
3. The Kremlin committed suicide
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (7rVsF)

It was all Gorby. That warmonger cowboy Reagan wanted to blow up the planet to kill all the gays.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:59 AM (kQs4Y)

38 29 Welcome back, Weasel !
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:57 AM (arJlL)
-----
Thanks, JT!

I'm wondering if we Virginia Morons should shun Eris for moving away.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:01 AM (MVjcR)

39
Funny that Reagan does not get credit from bringing down USSR!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2019 08:55 AM (JFO2v)



Some people did some things

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:01 AM (GtbRh)

40 Actual obstruction of justice by Biden most likely occurred so the Press is inoculating him from his own illegal and shady dealings. Biden confesses to obstructing justice in the Ukraine and the MSM make it a story about Trump.

The Dems and the press are colliding to bring down Trump.

Posted by: Czech Chick at September 21, 2019 09:02 AM (haWye)

41 31 Thank God, Weasel! We were descending into chaos!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM (kQs4Y)
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And here I was all ready to lead a shunning effort and you go and be all nice.

*snick*

No shunning for Eris!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:02 AM (mitVr)

42 35. There is only one Trump. The only viable GOPe with the same courage is Matt Gaetz, maybe Tom Cotton.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 09:03 AM (r9gUQ)

43 The Democrat Party - party of nutters, cranks, and neurotics.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:03 AM (pHzVy)

44 Steve Cohen represents the 9th district of TN

a district that is 2/3 black

and he's white

and Jewish

seems a little weird

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2019 09:04 AM (AQBtr)

45 Good morning, Horde!

And thanks for the Hat Tip, MisHum

Now, off to shul, where I'm giving this week's d'var (lesson/sermon) on "The Blessings and The Curses" (or, as I like to call it, The Trumpers and the NeverTrumpers)(I keed, I keed: unlike the libs, *I* don't need to politicize everything).

Posted by: ibguy at September 21, 2019 09:04 AM (EHVbt)

46 It was all Gorby. That warmonger cowboy Reagan wanted to blow up the planet to kill all the gays.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:59 AM (kQs4Y)



The girl I was dating in 1984 flipped out when she found out that I voted for Reagan. Didn't I know that he wants to blow up the world?!?!

Me: Why didn't he do it in his first term.

Her: He wanted to get re-elected.
Me: If all he wants to do is blow up the world why care about getting re-elected?
Her: You don't understand.
Me: You're right, I don't understand something that stupid

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:04 AM (GtbRh)

47 Josh Hawley is good. Remains to be seen if he is a fighting Alpha male. A warcock.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 09:05 AM (r9gUQ)

48 Gaetz does not impress me as much as Devin Nunes has done.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2019 09:05 AM (NVYyb)

49 42 35. There is only one Trump. The only viable GOPe with the same courage is Matt Gaetz, maybe Tom Cotton.
Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 09:03 AM (r9gUQ)
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Those are the options I'm thinking of, plus maybe Jordan. But who has Trump's gleeful f-you dragonslayer energy? It's physically and mentally draining and yet he seems to be getting stronger.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:06 AM (kQs4Y)

50 Morning, all,

Sitting at Panera before my haircut and other errands. Why is it that Saturday is almost busier than work days?

Love the Jonny Quest/Justin Trudeau memes from last night.

Discovered this am that my car lies to me. It told me I was low on fuel, and I was. But it said I had used 14.9 gallons over two weeks. The pump shut off at 15.8 - so I actually had less fuel in reserve than I thought. This car is new to me; I'm learning about it. From now on I will consider I have 1/14 less gas than it reports.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2019 09:07 AM (DHNlU)

51 @realDonaldTrump

This is the real and only story!

Video: https://tinyurl.com/yyahlfra

It's excellent!

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 09:07 AM (cF8AT)

52 A woman showed up at a Beto rally and told him, "hell no, you're not taking our guns." Among other things she said to him was "I understand you have a criminal record and criminals typically don't want good people to be armed."

It's over at GP.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 21, 2019 09:07 AM (JcXHH)

53 The girl I was dating in 1984 flipped out when she found out that I voted for Reagan. Didn't I know that he wants to blow up the world?!?!

And now her children are freaking out about Global Warming. The world is still ending!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 21, 2019 09:08 AM (NVYyb)

54 10 Ben Had,
A better week is a relative term.... no, I do not feel like I had a better week. I dread my job now. If I can hang on a little longer, less than a year, I think I have an out.
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019


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I'm right there with you, Lin-duh. Hoping to get out of the Swamp within a couple of years too. Dig your nails in and hang on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2019 09:08 AM (DHNlU)

55 A woman showed up at a Beto rally and told him,
"hell no, you're not taking our guns." Among other things she said to
him was "I understand you have a criminal record and criminals typically
don't want good people to be armed."



It's over at GP.


Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 21, 2019 09:07 AM

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Women like her scare the crap out of democrats. They must be destroyed.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 21, 2019 09:09 AM (JUOKG)

56 Why was the Obama administration so concerned about Ukraine's hiring decisions? What were they trying to cover-up/uncover?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 21, 2019 09:09 AM (oVJmc)

57 It's a little cool here this morning -almost too cool for the short-sleeved pants I'm wearing. Seems to be warming up now, so I think I'll be OK.

Oh, and for those of you following the antics of WeaselDog, she broke out this morning. The SIL and niece came over a while ago and she pushed the storm door open. She needs to perfect the rest of her escape routine though - she stopped in the front yard to do her happy dance and was easily nabbed.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:10 AM (mitVr)

58 Yes Devin Nunes is certainly courageous, Jim Jordan as well. I guess I'm looking for who among them is a Leader with the qualities Eris mentioned.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 09:10 AM (r9gUQ)

59 Ben Had,
A better week is a relative term.... no, I do not feel like I had a better week. I dread my job now. If I can hang on a little longer, less than a year, I think I have an out.
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019
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Want me to beat somebody up for you when I'm down there next month?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:11 AM (mitVr)

60 Wolfus Aurelius ,
Unfortunately I won't be getting completely out of the swamp...just trying to move to a less boggy area with less leeches alligators....

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 09:13 AM (UUBmN)

61 33 I was a kid when my mother, genetically Democrat, told me seriously that Republicans started all the wars and Dems had to fight and end them."

I remember hearing that, and I *Never* understood that one - you have to be intentionally ignorant to think that. WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam - all started by Democrat Presidents. Even the Civil War was started by the Democrats. So where the hell did that idiotic thought ever come from???

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:13 AM (V2Yro)

62 It's Bad Berry berry Berry bad that the Orange man talk to the Ukraine about Biden.

HOWEVER it is GOOD, berry berry berry GOOD that the Fredo admin worked with russian interests to go after then Candidate Trump and wiretapped him.

Splain that to me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 21, 2019 09:14 AM (p0A33)

63 At least the Freedom Caucus now has a leader who supports them. The TEA partx flailed about with no GOPe behind them.

Posted by: kallisto at September 21, 2019 09:14 AM (r9gUQ)

64 Nunez

Posted by: Ass Chum at September 21, 2019 09:14 AM (Jj+59)

65 Good morning, Horde. Off to tennis. It's gonna be a steam bath in there...

Posted by: Ladyl at September 21, 2019 09:14 AM (TdMsT)

66 Want me to beat somebody up for you when I'm down there next month?
Posted by: Weasel
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Bring a crew and be prepared for wet stuff...

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 09:15 AM (UUBmN)

67 66 Want me to beat somebody up for you when I'm down there next month?
Posted by: Weasel
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Bring a crew and be prepared for wet stuff...
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 09:15 AM (UUBmN)
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Hey, I know a bunch of SEALs - would that work?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:16 AM (mitVr)

68 I see the Mega Millions has rolled over, so no secret island lair for Eris. Yet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:16 AM (pHzVy)

69 Tom
I was saying something about Vietnam at the time when she went off on me.
She blamed Ike and Nixon for starting the war.
I just shut up and kept reading independently. It was bizarre but this is about the same time that the Republicans were flipped to having kept black people down and the Dems were their saviors.
The stupid times started a long time ago.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 09:16 AM (7EIHE)

70 Good morning. Perusing the news. I see the eco-flakes were all out in mass shitting in their panties yesterday.

Wish they'd just kill themselves and leave the rest of us in peace. But I guess that ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Sooner at September 21, 2019 09:17 AM (Fs5vw)

71 I've learned to never trust politicians. PT isn't a politician. I sure am gonna miss him in 2025.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 09:17 AM (BLFnH)

72 44 Steve Cohen represents the 9th district of TN

a district that is 2/3 black

and he's white

and Jewish

seems a little weird
Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2019 09:04 AM (AQBtr)


He tried to join the CBC who said LOLGF white boy. I don't blame them.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 21, 2019 09:17 AM (w5hnp)

73 60 Wolfus Aurelius ,
Unfortunately I won't be getting completely out of the swamp...just trying to move to a less boggy area with less leeches alligators....
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019


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Lin-duh, I was speaking literally regarding Da Swamp I live in. But it doesn't matter; an improvement is an improvement. Good luck!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2019 09:18 AM (DHNlU)

74 Qualifying is on for Singapore

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:18 AM (ZCEU2)

75 realDonaldTrump 7 minutes ago

The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party,

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It would've been even better and more accurate do describe them as co-conspirators.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 21, 2019 09:19 AM (dmoiP)

76 She blamed Ike and Nixon for starting the war."

So if Ike and Nixon started it, then why didn't JFK stop it when he became President?

oh that's right, he was going to, and that's why George Bush Sr. hired Ted Cruz's dad to shoot him from the grassy knoll. Got it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:20 AM (V2Yro)

77 Have the Democrats moved to defund EPA now that Rump promises to bring that fully weaponized agency to bear on San Francisco and Los Angeles over homeless people and hypodermics?

Wasn't that a line in the Billy Joel song We Didn't Start the Fire?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:21 AM (pHzVy)

78 Ack! Trump

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:21 AM (pHzVy)

79 Maybe the Democrat party and their fake news media arm

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:23 AM (ZCEU2)

80 @CoryBooker 5 minutes ago

We're at a crossroads in this campaign. We need to raise $1.7 million by September 30 to be in a position to build the organization we need to compete for the nomination - and we can do it- but if we don't, we don't see a legitimate long-term path forward.



Awwww...whatta shame.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 09:23 AM (cF8AT)

81 Good morning all! Gonna be a warm one in northern NH. Up to low 80s. Gonna work some more some more on my tree stand and brush clearing.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:24 AM (tDzWD)

82 80 @CoryBooker 5 minutes ago

We're at a crossroads

When you come to a fork in the road, stab someone with it.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 21, 2019 09:25 AM (KaupC)

83 81 Good morning all! Gonna be a warm one in northern NH. Up to low 80s. Gonna work some more some more on my tree stand and brush clearing.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:24 AM (tDzWD)
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Sounds like a lot of work, Amigo. Have you thought this through?

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:25 AM (mitVr)

84 Happy Saturday!
Need that mug for my hubby - he's NOT a morning person.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2019 09:25 AM (bDqIh)

85 T=Bone needs to have a bake sale for Corey?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:26 AM (pHzVy)

86 85 T=Bone needs to have a bake sale for Corey?
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:26 AM (pHzVy)

I here candy corn pop balls are great sellers

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2019 09:26 AM (JFO2v)

87 Think Cory's engagement to the actress will last beyond the campaign?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2019 09:26 AM (bDqIh)

88 Meeting a co-worker for lunch at an oyster bar today. Cheat day today. Oyster have a surprising number of carbs as do most bivalves. Shrimp, lobster, and other shellfish and fish are ok though.

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 09:27 AM (UUBmN)

89 Tom
Pretty much. She didn't have an explanation as to why LBJ blew it up to its insane proportions but Nixon was a failure because he failed to win.
Logic was not her strong suit.

Re: Corey. LOLGFY!

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 21, 2019 09:27 AM (7EIHE)

90 84 Happy Saturday!

Need that mug for my hubby - he's NOT a morning person.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2019 09:25 AM (bDqIh)


16 Found that mug on Amazon...

https://tinyurl.com/y6jzrfpn

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 08:45 AM (cF8AT)

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 09:27 AM (cF8AT)

91 T=Bone needs to have a bake sale for Corey?

someone should twitter that to Corey. lol

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 09:27 AM (BLFnH)

92 Sounds like a lot of work, Amigo. Have you thought this through?
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:25 AM (mitVr)

Yeah, maybe you're right. Ima go down to Home Depot and hire me some undocumented dreamers to do it. Except they're all from Canada up here. Can't stand those frenchy icebacks.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:29 AM (tDzWD)

93 That's an honest mug

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 09:30 AM (+72t1)

94 These Democrats never considered Trump would go after the blue city-dweller vote, huh?

I'm guessing some people in LA, SF, and Baltimore are wondering why he's depicted as such a monster when he's actually prioritizing them over the criminals, druggies and illegals. Heh.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2019 09:30 AM (bDqIh)

95 The mug's funny.

A cigarette version could just say:

1/8" - Oh, thank god.
1/4" - Now I have to poop.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at September 21, 2019 09:31 AM (sGnvY)

96 M (mitVr)

Yeah, maybe you're right. Ima go down to Home Depot and hire me some undocumented dreamers to do it. Except they're all from Canada up here. Can't stand those frenchy icebacks.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:29 AM (tDzWD)
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The tree stand would make an excellent platform from which to direct the activities.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:31 AM (mitVr)

97 How many dems are still in for the 1st primary?

How many dems are still in after the 1st primary?

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 09:31 AM (X/Pw5)

98 Spartacus might get that $1.7 million if would just flounce out of the closet.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 21, 2019 09:33 AM (Uu+Jp)

99 I see that Rand Simberg's book "Safe is Not an Option" is now part of the curriculum of the Schriever Space Scholars at Air Command and Staff College.

http://www.transterrestrial.com/2019/09/20/news-on-the-book-front/

As a Kickstarter contributor, I have a signed copy from when it was first published a few years ago.

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 09:33 AM (sdi6R)

100 Thanks, Tami!!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 21, 2019 09:34 AM (bDqIh)

101 First world problems: descaled the Keurig with white vinegar last night. First cup this morning curdled the cream.
Do you know how hard it is to empty a steaming hot cup of covfefe on a Saturday morning?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:34 AM (tDzWD)

102 It will be down to a reasonable number before the first primary but doubt the announced candidates are the only ones who make it to that point.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:35 AM (ZCEU2)

103 Morning, Anna and Eris and all you other lovely 'rons and 'ronettes.

**sips tea, debates making covfefe with a shot of Bailey's**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 21, 2019 09:35 AM (Ki5SV)

104 Hey MPPP! Hi Anna!

I'm furiously procrastinating.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:36 AM (kQs4Y)

105 Antemeridian greetings, y'all. Something of a long dark night of the soul last night. I get those sometimes.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (NWiLs)

106 Blutarski's right. Where are we going to find a champion to continue the fight after Trump's second term is over? This swamp cleaning is going to take generations.

No kidding, every single candidate is going to be a yawner, enthusiasm will die and hope will be lost because most of us will know we are returning to The Norm of having yet another corrupt, bought, deep swamp puppet to resume the plundering.

There is a movie out on Amazon called "Backstabbing For Beginners" which is based on Michael Sullivan's exposing the extent of the corruption in the Iraq Oil For Food program. If true, it is only a microcosm of what has been routine in the former United States for the last century (at least).

Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (lD3vL)

107 The tree stand would make an excellent platform from which to direct the activities.
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:31 AM (mitVr)

Especially if I could wear aviator sunglasses, a smoky the bear hat and cradle a Rem 870!

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (tDzWD)

108 **sips tea, debates making covfefe with a shot of Bailey's**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 21, 2019 09:35 AM (Ki5SV)

I vote "aye".

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (X/Pw5)

109 Thank God, Weasel! We were descending into chaos!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:58 AM


Given his calming presence, his counterbalance to some of the more effusive (hi bluebell!) personalities, indeed, his adult-in-the-room gravitas, one feels compelled to inquire as to the often rank disparagement of Mustilids that often occurs in these parts.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (DMUuz)

110 @61 "... Even the Civil War was started by the Democrats. ..."

Ah, you mean when President James Buchanan, a Democrat, refused to remove US troops from the territory of the sovereign State of South Carolina?

The point is that the secession of the southern States and the start of the "War of Northern Aggression" are two different things.

Posted by: Ilion at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (viTHX)

111 I'm furiously procrastinating.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:36 AM (kQs4Y)

As long as you're giving 100% to it that's all that matters.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (NWiLs)

112 Steve Cohen represents 7th district of Tennessee
2/3 rd black
He's white and Jewish?


It's the shoe polish baybee............................

a whiter shade of pale i am not,but I have a good bronzer and a life time membership to Tannings R US.

Posted by: saf at September 21, 2019 09:38 AM (5IHGB)

113 I'm talkin' to myself.....aka a day ending in y.
Posted by: Tami
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Ah. That's one of the advantages of having a pet around. You can pretend that you are talking to the pet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 09:38 AM (xSo9G)

114 Yeah, maybe you're right. Ima go down to Home Depot and hire me some undocumented dreamers to do it. Except they're all from Canada up here. Can't stand those frenchy icebacks.
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:29 AM (tDzWD)
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I've found that recruiting a couple of extras and making examples of them early helps motivate the other workers.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:39 AM (mitVr)

115 sips tea, debates making covfefe with a shot of Bailey's**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 21, 2019 09:35 AM (Ki5SV)

I vote "aye".
Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (X/Pw5)

Concur. Better than white vinegar.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:40 AM (tDzWD)

116 Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:34 AM (tDzWD

you're supposed to run one or two cups of just water after descaling

or you can just blame the neighborhood witch for curdling your cream

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 09:40 AM (+72t1)

117 Hey MPPP! Hi Anna!

I'm furiously procrastinating.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:36 AM (kQs4Y)


Same here. I've got two writing projects that need to be done and I also have my motorcycle waiting to be taken out, yet here I sit at . . .**checks clock**. . .9.40. I've got to move soon and not waste the day!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 21, 2019 09:41 AM (Ki5SV)

118 109 Thank God, Weasel! We were descending into chaos!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 2Given his calming presence, his counterbalance to some of the more effusive (hi bluebell!) personalities, indeed, his adult-in-the-room gravitas, one feels compelled to inquire as to the often rank disparagement of Mustilids that often occurs in these parts.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 21, 2019 09:37 AM (DMUuz)
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Hard to argue with this!

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:41 AM (mitVr)

119 First world problems: descaled the Keurig with white vinegar last night. First cup this morning curdled the cream.
Do you know how hard it is to empty a steaming hot cup of covfefe on a Saturday morning?
Posted by: RI Red
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Should have saved it to pour on weeds.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 09:41 AM (xSo9G)

120 116 Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:34 AM (tDzWD

you're supposed to run one or two cups of just water after descaling

or you can just blame the neighborhood witch for curdling your cream
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019


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I think you mean one or two *pots* of water after descaling. That's what I do after running vinegar and water through the Braun, and everything is fine in my next pot of coffee.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2019 09:43 AM (DHNlU)

121 or you can just blame the neighborhood witch for curdling your cream
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 09:40 AM (+72t1)

Ahh, vmom. Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays ?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:43 AM (tDzWD)

122 I also have my motorcycle waiting to be taken out,
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Dammit. Mine needs oil and filter changed, but I want to go take toodle to warm it up before doing that. I've been trying to get around to that for a month.

The bike sits brooding in the garage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 09:44 AM (xSo9G)

123
Same here. I've got two writing projects that need to be done and I also have my motorcycle waiting to be taken out, yet here I sit at . . .**checks clock**. . .9.40. I've got to move soon and not waste the day!
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 21, 2019


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I see I'm not the only one whose Saturdays are busier than the work week.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2019 09:44 AM (DHNlU)

124 Welp, I need to do some writing, too. Back later to check on things. Don't burn the place down.

Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 09:45 AM (mitVr)

125 Okay Hordies, I'm gonna start strong and finish strong.

*punches sides of beef, runs up steps*

See you all later in the day.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:45 AM (kQs4Y)

126 101 First world problems: descaled the Keurig with white vinegar last night. First cup this morning curdled the cream.

Do you know how hard it is to empty a steaming hot cup of covfefe on a Saturday morning?

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:34 AM (tDzWD)

Did you run a whole water container through with no coffee k-cup in it? Have to flush out all the vinegar.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 09:46 AM (cF8AT)

127 Well, gotta kick the cats off my lap, load the shotgun and head down to Home Depot.
Weasel, I may get a range report yet!

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:46 AM (tDzWD)

128 I made bacon and eggs for Dear Husband just a bit ago. I made myself rocket fuel coffee.

I sat down at the table with my first cup, humming appreciatively.

DH says, "ahh, the Bear goes away and my wife appears!"

Smart aleck.

Posted by: Flyover at September 21, 2019 09:46 AM (B5K06)

129 Dammit. Mine needs oil and filter changed, but I want to go take toodle to warm it up before doing that. I've been trying to get around to that for a month.

The bike sits brooding in the garage.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019


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My new-to-me '16 Buick wants me to make a road trip, but I'm waiting for less-hot weather . . . and it needs to have the cabin filter changed. A/C is not supposed to give a hint of old cheese for the first few seconds when you start it up. The trouble is that the cabin filter is ensconced deep in the dashboard -- it's not something I think I can tackle.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2019 09:46 AM (DHNlU)

130 54 10 Ben Had,
A better week is a relative term.... no, I do not feel like I had a better week. I dread my job now. If I can hang on a little longer, less than a year, I think I have an out.
Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019
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I'm right there with you, Lin-duh. Hoping to get out of the Swamp within a couple of years too. Dig your nails in and hang on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

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Hang on there guys - it can be done. I stayed about 9 mo. longer than I should have for my mental health but in the end, it worked out. Keep you mind busy with "well, yes, this sucks but soon it won't."

https://youtu.be/_iiOEQOtBlQ

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 09:46 AM (Y4EXg)

131 122 I also have my motorcycle waiting to be taken out,
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Dammit. Mine needs oil and filter changed, but I want to go take toodle to warm it up before doing that. I've been trying to get around to that for a month.

The bike sits brooding in the garage.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 09:44 AM (xSo9G)

I wish I had a motorcycle. That would be fun.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 21, 2019 09:47 AM (NWiLs)

132 Tami, et al., I thought I had flushed it well. But I may have been imbibing at the time.
You know, walking, chewing gum ...

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:48 AM (tDzWD)

133 "Biden confesses to obstructing justice in the Ukraine and the MSM make it a story about Trump."


one way stupid crooks get caught is they just have to brag to their buddies about what they just "pulled off." Biden wasn't confessing, he was bragging (imo).


Same with some of the Mueller team, laughing at how they tricked Flynn into a conversation without his lawyer. Thugs and crooks don't get employee of the month awards or medals, so they have to brag for themselves. They can't hold back their own ego.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 09:48 AM (Cus5s)

134 There are those who use nothing but bottled water for coffee machines.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:50 AM (ZCEU2)

135 Yemen's Houthi Rebels Announce Halt In Attacks On Saudi Arabia

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Well, if you can't trust an Islamic terrorist, who can you trust?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 09:51 AM (+y/Ru)

136 Good morning Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 21, 2019 09:51 AM (3F0Ql)

137 I wish I had my bike, but then I watch all the asshole drivers around.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2019 09:52 AM (GP3/4)

138 the latest all state "mayhem" ad is pretty funny - it's about cats

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 09:53 AM (+72t1)

139 76 She blamed Ike and Nixon for starting the war."

So if Ike and Nixon started it, then why didn't JFK stop it when he became President?

oh that's right, he was going to, and that's why George Bush Sr. hired Ted Cruz's dad to shoot him from the grassy knoll. Got it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:20 AM (V2Yro)


It all becomes clear now.

Posted by: rickl at September 21, 2019 09:54 AM (sdi6R)

140 Why are we sending aid of any description to the Ukraine? The Crimea has been part of Russia longer than Texas has been part of the US. Khrushchev (an ethnic Ukrainian, Stalin also) redrew the map in the 1950s. In other words, we are advocating for the restoration of a Soviet imposed boundary. To be consistent, we should be advocating for the restoration of East Germany.

Posted by: Call me Ishmael at September 21, 2019 09:55 AM (9X60i)

141 Blutarski's right. Where are we going to find a champion to continue the fight after Trump's second term is over? This swamp cleaning is going to take generations.

Tanned, rested and ready.

Please clap, Amigos!

Posted by: Jeb! at September 21, 2019 09:55 AM (Z+IKu)

142 114 Yeah, maybe you're right. Ima go down to Home Depot and hire me some undocumented dreamers to do it.

Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 09:29 AM (tDzWD)

It could be great fun to go to Home Depot one weekday morning with a bullhorn, yell "ICE - don't anybody move!", and watch the ensuing scattering.

Could you get into trouble for doing that?

Posted by: Marybeth at September 21, 2019 09:56 AM (4pK1/)

143 Pantifa soiboi's "comrades" are taking up a collection to send him vegan burritos in jail. The comments are savage.

https://tinyurl.com/soi-boi-taco

I don't know what's more humorous: the "vegan burrito" part, or the part where they actually seem to believe you get to have takeout food in jail.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 21, 2019 09:57 AM (9xVRr)

144 Better win 2020 first. Vote fraud is going to be through the roof. And there will be violence.

5 years is a long time in politics.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2019 09:57 AM (GP3/4)

145 Greetings all you caffeinated fappers and fappees.

No fresh hell today, it took Saturday off.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 21, 2019 09:58 AM (HaL55)

146 These idiot Congressional Democrats tried this crap a few months ago when they demanded that President Trump disclose what he said to Vladimir Putin during a meeting. They went so far as threatening to subpoena a translator to find out what was aid.

Finally, someone reminded them that foreign affairs are an exclusive constitutional function of the executive branch and the Senate must ratify treaties.

Now, they are pulling the same nonsense with Ukraine. An executive staff member eavesdrops on a telephone call and files a complaint within the executive branch. That does not confer constitutional power over foreign affairs to Congress.

The fucktards in the media know this, but their cultish allegiance to the Democrats compels them to overlook the Constitution when it comes to foreign affairs (see the non-Senate ratification of the Iran deal and the foreign affairs intrusion of citizen John Kerry).

Conservatives need to push this issue as an abuse of power of Congress.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2019 09:58 AM (gAXBD)

147 It could be great fun to go to Home Depot one weekday morning with a bullhorn, yell "ICE - don't anybody move!", and watch the ensuing scattering.

Could you get into trouble for doing that?

Posted by: Marybeth at September 21, 2019 09:56 AM (4pK1/)

Yell "la migra" instead...just in case.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2019 09:59 AM (X/Pw5)

148 Trump: talks to foreign leaders -> "treason".
Obama: bows down to foreign leaders -> totes okay.

Is that how it works?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 21, 2019 10:00 AM (9xVRr)

149 If they don't all scatter, things could get sporty.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 10:00 AM (7s3Gx)

150
It could be great fun to go to Home Depot one weekday morning with a bullhorn, yell "ICE - don't anybody move!", and watch the ensuing scattering.

Could you get into trouble for doing that?

Posted by: Marybeth


Heh, when I worked construction in Cali, coworker and I drove the van to the convenience store at lunch. Bunch if illegals around. A park ranger pulled in the parking lot and I yelled ICE, hilarity did ensue. Never thought they could all run that fast.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 10:00 AM (BLFnH)

151 146: pffffffffft..........

Posted by: Black-robed overlords at the Judicial Branch at September 21, 2019 10:00 AM (GP3/4)

152 135 Yemen's Houthi Rebels Announce Halt In Attacks On Saudi Arabia

They are awaiting orders from Obama and John Kerry.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2019 10:01 AM (gAXBD)

153 Yelling ICE isn't like yelling Fire so why not?

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:02 AM (ZCEU2)

154 Well this is an interesting little nugget buried in CNN's article about the 'whistleblower'....


The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

Posted by: Tami at September 21, 2019 10:03 AM (cF8AT)

155 I wish I had my bike, but then I watch all the asshole drivers around.

I had a little 400 Honda Hawk when I moved down here. Sold it PDQ. Too many old people with impaired vision to be safe for me.
I do miss riding. I'd love to have my first bike back, the red 150 Dream.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 21, 2019 10:03 AM (HaL55)

156 The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

Translation: Bullshit.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 21, 2019 10:03 AM (gAXBD)

157 135 - If only right after Pearl Harbor in December 1941 the Japanese didn't announce a halt in hostility.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:04 AM (ZCEU2)

158 DIY website, next DIY government and spy court and hanging at Sport Panties and lounge on hwy 88.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 21, 2019 10:04 AM (9PtLS)

159 Present Danger China is a good link to have on hand. As is, our corrupt government is trying to open up our capital markets even more to China, but giving them special exemptions on various transparency rules. Government pensions would be investing in Chinese military companies, of not stopped. In other areas China continues infiltration of our tech companies and universities, always intent on stealing what they can. Wall Street is thrilled with putting their bottom line ahead of protecting our liberty. ("Free Trade", till we build our enemies up to where they can hang us with our own rope)


https://presentdangerchina.org/

Posted by: illiniwek at September 21, 2019 10:04 AM (Cus5s)

160 150 Heh, when I worked construction in Cali, coworker and I drove the van to the convenience store at lunch. Bunch if illegals around. A park ranger pulled in the parking lot and I yelled ICE, hilarity did ensue. Never thought they could all run that fast.
Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 10:00 AM (BLFnH)

My hubby, a legal US immigrant, has mentioned doing this before.

May be a better idea after he gets his US citizenship!

Posted by: Marybeth at September 21, 2019 10:04 AM (4pK1/)

161 http://bit.ly/2QlwrfP
*******
Team Iran Tablet Magazine

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 21, 2019 10:05 AM (BqBId)

162 Heh, when I worked construction in Cali, coworker and I drove the van to
the convenience store at lunch. Bunch if illegals around. A park
ranger pulled in the parking lot and I yelled ICE, hilarity did ensue.
Never thought they could all run that fast.


That's just all kinds of awesome.


I doff my hat to you. Well done.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 21, 2019 10:06 AM (HaL55)

163 > How many dems are still in for the 1st primary?

DeBolshevik is out as of yesterday.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 21, 2019 10:07 AM (9xVRr)

164 At Homey Depot here it's only customers who would be running from a ICE raid, the workers are mostly retired or nearly American former construction workers it seems.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 10:07 AM (ZCEU2)

165 How many dems are still in for the 1st primary?

DeBolshevik is out as of yesterday.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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So that leaves about 74 then?///

Posted by: lin-duh, was deplorable now a committed racist doing keto! at September 21, 2019 10:07 AM (UUBmN)

166 Marybeth, this was in the early eighties. Not sure I would attempt it at my ripe old age of 29.

Posted by: Infidel at September 21, 2019 10:08 AM (BLFnH)