Glenn Reynolds: The Civil War Has Already Started.

Unfortunate but true.

At some point a critical mass of people will get woke to the fact that this is no longer a unified country and make adult decisions about what to do about it.

Until then, we'll be a country of battling, drunken low-rent family members where no one has figured out yet that they can, and should, leave the toxic environment.

Marriage counselors say that when a couple view one another with contempt, it's a top indicator that the relationship is likely to fail. Americans, who used to know how to disagree with one another without being mutually contemptuous, seem to be forgetting this. And the news media, which promote shrieking outrage in pursuit of ratings and page views, are making the problem worse.

What would make things better? It would be nice if people felt social ties that transcend politics. Americans' lives used to involve a lot more intermediating institutions -- churches, fraternal organizations, neighborhoods --that crossed political lines. Those have shrunk and decayed, and in fact, for many people politics seems to have become a substitute for religion or fraternal organizations. If you find your identity in your politics, you're not going to identify with people who don't share them.

The rules of bourgeois civility also helped keep things in check, but of course those rules have been shredded for years. We may come to miss them.

America had one disastrous civil war, and those who fought it did a surprisingly good job of coming together afterward, realizing how awful it was to have a political divide that set brother against brother. Let us hope that we will not have to learn that lesson again in a similar fashion.

He's referring to an idea I've mentioned before myself, that there are "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" that predict divorce in a couple. Those Four Horsemen are criticism, defensiveness, stonewalling, and contempt.

All of which are singularly present in modern American "discourse."

The county is toxic. It's time to split it up, For the Good of the Children.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:30 PM




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1 War!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2018 05:31 PM (YZSqu)

2 Bring it!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2018 05:32 PM (YZSqu)

3 so who wears grey and who wears blue this time?

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:32 PM (FZYNt)

4 At least "tit for tat" to force the tyrrants back.

Posted by: muckrack at June 26, 2018 05:32 PM (DoqY9)

5 And away we go.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:33 PM (md3fh)

6 This time we will win.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 05:33 PM (xMnHK)

7 Top ten!

Posted by: Octopussy at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (jyQ5x)

8

Or you could just slap the bitch.

Posted by: Ike Turner at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (4fGh8)

9 Irreconcilable Differences to say the least.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (xx+WQ)

10 Two brothers marched away, one wore blue, the other wore gray.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (md3fh)

11 bring it on

Posted by: brak at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (VckGX)

12 Howdy, beloved Horde!

We need to discover a new, uninhabited continent to colonize.

Posted by: Emmie at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (/A+Cl)

13 Damn Yankees.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (xMnHK)

14 In this new war, the other side will probably wear pink. And fly the rainbow flag. Heh, they won't stand a chance against us.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (md3fh)

15 You know what you tell a woman with two black eyes?

Posted by: nip at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (ECLaL)

16 I'm scared of the 1st Pajama Boi Brigade! Playdoh is lethal, ya know.

Posted by: Octopussy at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (jyQ5x)

17 I do not like people who hate me.

And there is a lot of hate out there for me. Because I agree with PDT.

I see no way to cross that divide. I just want to eat at a restaurant. Watch a movie. See a ball game. Live a life without having to worry about some kind of political statement coming out of it.

That path is closing if not closed.

Sucks.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (++G28)

18 OTOH the hashtag "walkaway" is trending on twatter.

If you don't "do" twatter, "walkaway" is when avowed Democrats leave the party and shift to the right.

There's quite a few posts, but Jack is suppressing it.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (iiixZ)

19
The county is toxic. It's time to split it up, For the Good of the Children.



You can have them, I want the car and the house.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (10vO4)

20 don't want to be a divorced right America
I prefer to be a widowered right America

Posted by: vm pimping new & sale horde books at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (hMwEB)

21 The trouble started when...

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (BqR2k)

22 Here am I in Connecticut with a small business going well and expanding. F that, I ain't leaving the US. We're winning, no need to cash in the chips.

Posted by: Uncledave at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (llbMB)

23 I say we stick together as a nation and ram our policies down their fucking throats.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (4e+hS)

24 We'll take the American children.

The lefty loons can have the "migrant" children, since they care about them so much more than they care about Americans.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2018 05:36 PM (fqUgw)

25 14 In this new war, the other side will probably wear pink. And fly the rainbow flag. Heh, they won't stand a chance against us.
Posted by: Ruthless

You know how to blend in to the background when you're wearing pink...

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at June 26, 2018 05:36 PM (FZYNt)

26 The Left is agitating for Sarajevo.

They won't like it when they get a dose of Sarajevo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2018 05:36 PM (awqYm)

27 I haven't seen to many amicable divorces,. Ace, although my mother seemed to have one from her first husband. No children. She didn't ask for alimony because she was working. She stayed on good although distant terms with him. But what would an amicable divorce look like in this situation? Every states has a measure of leftists and a measure of conservatives.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 05:36 PM (O5K3f)

28 Fuck the children.

Posted by: Harry Reid at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (xMnHK)

29 26 The Left is agitating for Sarajevo.

They won't like it when they get a dose of Sarajevo.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Oh Shit, will I have to land under sniper fire again?

Posted by: Hillary! at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (FZYNt)

30 28 Fuck the children.
Posted by: Harry Reid

do you think there is time?

Posted by: John Podesta at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (FZYNt)

31 Until then, we'll be a country of battling, drunken low-rent family members where no one has figured out yet that they can, and should, leave the toxic environment."

So, Ireland?

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (k1TUh)

32 Welcome to the party, pal!

Posted by: Texian ette, Fate is a Foolish thing... at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (gou4q)

33

ah Doy.

These totalitarians have been attacking us for years.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (LA+of)

34 Hillary would do a face plant and the sniper would miss. Crap!

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:37 PM (md3fh)

35 Dennis Prager has been calling it a civil war for over a year, it's just still a cold war yet thankfully.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (pHfeF)

36 How does this go down though?

Because I do think we are very close to this, but my guess is it will be unsavory elements that align themselves with "conservatism" that will be taking the first actual shots.

Think something like Charlottesville but far bigger.

I want a national, peaceful divorce, I don't want to align myself with certain groups that will likely be first in the fight.

Posted by: Pede at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (uc45P)

37 if you don't love America, then leave
simple!

Posted by: vm pimping new & sale horde books at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (hMwEB)

38 My friend's brother is always implying that I'm a racist. Maybe I should call the public school he works for and inform them he's the decendant of a slave owner?

Posted by: Oschisms at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (kp1nB)

39 How many people does the shrieking, insane, lunatic left actually represent? I'm not asking a rhetorical question.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (eAMlh)

40 Can't we just make the others wear pussy hats so we can laugh at them? A civil war between Humans and Clowns? This is gonna be a war no one forgets.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (2LelM)

41 It really took about 30 years for the first Civil War to get the pot boiling.

Not sure when the clock started, but we probably have some time.

Posted by: blaster at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (Z5y53)

42 So who's on the hook for the national debt?

Posted by: Guzalot at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (schB/)

43 So everyone here knows this is Civil War.

They've been hearing that for over a year almost two.

There is no "divorce" option. That's bargaining.

You are in the bargaining stage. You can't bargain with civil war.

You need to prepare. If you live in NYC, GTFO.

Posted by: simplemind at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (0+q5G)

44 Dividing it up will be easy. Pull out the map of the counties who voted red and blue.
Build wall accordingly.

In short, blockade the top 25 urban centers in America and war over.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (0tfLf)

45 22 Here am I in Connecticut with a small business going well and expanding. F that, I ain't leaving the US. We're winning, no need to cash in the chips.
Posted by: Uncledave at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (llbMB)




This guy.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (+lOpA)

46 You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs

- shit Lenin said

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (FZYNt)

47 28 Fuck the children.
Posted by: Harry Reid
____________

Then again, maybe we shouldn't let the left have the migrant kids. The kids really don't deserve that . . . . . . . . . .

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (fqUgw)

48 23 I say we stick together as a nation and ram our policies down their fucking throats.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (4e+hS)

This. I want to see them crying in the streets and begging for a kind word from the people that rule them now. Us.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (YZSqu)

49 *comes in throwing elbows and fists*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (4ErVI)

50 39 How many people does the shrieking, insane, lunatic left actually represent? I'm not asking a rhetorical question.
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At most 10% of the population. Take away their media and they will return to being forgettable lumps of no promise.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (2LelM)

51 We are in a cold, or soft, civil war.

We are total losers if we cannot fix things without dividing up the country or bloodshed.

I am not gonna be of the generation that fvcked up the greatest country created bcz I didn't do the work of democracy.

The best thing for the children would be to see the adults get along and put things back together.

These war crys are from frustration and overdosing on news.

Also, we break apart, get ready for other countries to swoop in. Caliphate within a few years.

UNited we stand, divided we fall.

Pull it together People!

NOw I shall fully read the content. But as soon as I see this war cry crap I think, oh yea, self-fulfilling prophecy.

Get ahold of yourselves. We need Irongrampa to weigh in. And Y5.

Sorry for typos.

Fuck Off Jamie.
Lighten Up, Francis

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (1lhwM)

52 Fuck the children, we want the nukes.

They aren't gonna use 'em.

Posted by: Oschisms at June 26, 2018 05:40 PM (kp1nB)

53 13
Damn Yankees.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (xMnHK)
While I completely understand the sentiment since I fled to escape my northern brethren....

How does that explain the mental cases in California?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 05:40 PM (37IEG)

54 It is not a civil war, but a social divide. Our enemies do not live in some other place, but right next door and down the street. There are some general areas that are better than others. If we take the rural areas and cut off the cities from power and food, they will eat themselves. That would be a real war of a sort, maybe vaguely like the Spanish example in the 1930s.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:40 PM (md3fh)

55 What's so civil about war anyway?

Posted by: Axl Rose at June 26, 2018 05:40 PM (FZYNt)

56 I do think eventually between Antifa and politicians like Mad Max calling for unrest will eventually result in death.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (pHfeF)

57 Has anyone asked Schumer, Hillary and Pelosi if they want civil war? They seem to be promoting one.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (eAMlh)

58 We're gonna need another safe-space / decompression post.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (6FqZa)

59 The Left thinks they still have the DoJ to covertly aid them and protect them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (oVJmc)

60 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 05:39 PM (1lhwM)


I'm in this camp.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (+lOpA)

61 They're not gonna let us go, anyway.

Totalitarians need an enemy to destroy so they can enjoy the feelings of power-over-others. And to blame failures on.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (GNCPT)

62 Have no idea if or when the balloons go up, but, when or if they do I will see you guys back here, when the electrical grid is restored. I just crave spicy repartee

Posted by: Sumdumchief at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (qhsPR)

63
What's so civil about war anyway?

Posted by: Axl Rose at June 26, 2018 05:40 PM (FZYNt)


It's more humane than your singing

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (10vO4)

64 agreed. Kick California out of the union first, see what happens next.

Posted by: hurricane567 at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (GB7TS)

65 Restore an ancient tradition, banishment. The is a constitutional republic and if you want to destroy it you lose your America privilege. You leave and never return on pain of death.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (bML9A)

66 42 So who's on the hook for the national debt?
___________________

The left should get it, since they're the ones who were always coming up with the entitlement programs.

We should give the left the debt, the illegal aliens, Illinois, Minnesota, and Puerto Rico, because those things all go together so well.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (fqUgw)

67 Can we hold off on the war until I get used to these new glasses?

Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (MVjcR)

68 We stay. They leave. Physical Removal.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (fA1SL)

69 The insane left has graduated from harassing women to harassing Jews,

https://legalinsurrection.com/2018/06/ protestors-surround-sr-white-house-advisor-stephen-millers-apartment/

Some of his neighbors approved the protests. I wonder how much they will approve when they are homeless after the kind and caring nutjobs burn down Miller's Apartment Building?

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (4dz1m)

70 the divide is not so great as everyone thinks. the polling numbers on immigration that were discussed earlier suggest as much.

there are some figureheads at the top of the parties that are divisive and a good number of people on the left but they are not the majority and their power is waning.

hang tough and this will all work out eventually.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (MTjB1)

71 The left sponsors coup attempts and election shenanigans for trivially low stakes. They would rather nuke this country to ash than lose the vast resources that fuel their profligacy. Hopefully the military will never permit it, but I imagine there is at least one nuclear sub staffed with "reliables" for such a purpose.

Of course, dense urban areas have a lot more to fear from nukes than rural spaces, so that is the one reason I can afford optimism: they have far more to lose from retaliation. Anyways: no divorce. Any President who loses California will be replaced instantly by someone who demands it back, even the GE. At best I would countenance offering China an autonomous city in exchange for their acquiescence.

Posted by: trev006 at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (S6rSu)

72

You know why we suck?
Because we never demand MORE.

When the Left gets something, they don't stop -- they demand more.

For example, that measly tax cut we got. We should demanding ANOTHER, BIGGER tax cut.

Why are we settling for that little shitty tax cut? Time to demand more. More tax cuts. More Freedom. More border security. More fbi accountability. More of all the shit we want.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (LA+of)

73 What it is is
A: people who want to take your shit to give it to others so they can feel good about themselves.
B: people who expect to get your shit from others who are trying to feel good about themselves.

Get rid of the asshats who think they have a right to hand your shit out to other people and you've gone a long way towards solving your problems, because that answers your 'give your shit to immigrants' problem too.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (37IEG)

74 At most 10% of the population. Take away their media and they will return to being forgettable lumps of no promise.
Posted by: Gumby

____________

Of that 10%, 90% of those probably live in two states.
CA and NY.

Smart move would be to just get CA to secede, spare the nation a whole lot of anguish.

Posted by: Pede at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (uc45P)

75 This is bullshit.
The inability to get along with "each other" comes from one side, and one side only.
We didn't lose our collective shit when Obama was elected. Sure we criticized him--in sometimes unpleasant terms, and we all vented here at the AoS, but how many of us had to seek therapy, or ended friendships, or went to pussy riots or chased Obama supporters out of restaurants? And how many elected officials or conservative pundits told us to do that?

No, this is just the first of MANY such "think" pieces we will be subject to between now and 2020 and the under current of ALL of them will be, "If we are really serious about ending this hatred, we really should get rid of Trump."

That's what this is. They can't accept the fact that THEY hate US without pretending that WE hate THEM.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (y8Foj)

76 OT: Dana Perino looks exceptionally fine tonight. Also, Juan Williams is an idiot. However, he's right is saying that Barry can't save the Democrats. What a bunch of damn children.

Posted by: pep at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (LAe3v)

77 Kick California out of the union first, see what happens next.
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China buys off their political class, builds several bases in Californiastan and stocks them with all kinds of goodies.

Posted by: simplemind at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (0/X4N)

78 65 lots of this.

Posted by: Sumdumchief at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (qhsPR)

79

When you destroy respect in all its forms, as the Prog Ctrl-Left has been doing for the past 40 years or so, this is what you get.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (HaL55)

80 We could return the favor and send them en masse to Mexico. That would work, wouldn't it? Then build the wall so they can't come back.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (md3fh)

81 I do not believe we are headed for a divorce.

The left is like the little girl who keeps poking Daddy. The left assumes that Daddy will remain a gentleman and not deck the little shit for misbehaving, because she is so cute and small. She is wrong.

The right is like Daddy. He puts up with some childish nonsense, and even tolerates a fair bit of dissent, but at the point of great harm, he will provide correction.

I firmly believe that President Trump is the beginning of that correction. I also firmly believe that the American people prefer the rule of law, and the use of fairness and intellect (i.e., adults in charge) to the free-for-all shitstorm that the leftists have tried to foist upon us, since the dawn of communism.

There are more gentlemen out there than brats.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (7UW64)

82 Nationalists versus globalists. Can't wait to see General Bill Kristal mounted on his horse. Imagine the damage the NeoCon Brigades can do against deplorables?

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (2LelM)

83 Just as long as Mons Pubis given territorial status where I live, I'm good.

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (kBuGL)

84 Whose side will the government take?

Posted by: Ray Stevens at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (UOcKN)

85 Lol. Fuckin Weasel.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (YZSqu)

86 Fenalon: Most divorces are acrimonious (if my experience is any guide) because one of the participants is profoundly broken. Or as I like to say: the parasite never wants to give up the host. So they fight to keep what they have.

If two adults divorce, then it can be handled in an adult manner.

Posted by: Texian ette, Fate is a Foolish thing... at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (gou4q)

87 76 OT: Dana Perino looks exceptionally fine tonight. Also, Juan Williams is an idiot. However, he's right is saying that Barry can't save the Democrats. What a bunch of damn children.
Posted by: pep

Dana always looks fine, till she opens her mouth

Now Kimberly on the other hand....

I hope Don Jr. is enjoying that titty meat

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (FZYNt)

88

The tax cut, the travel ban, the wall.

That's all a Good Start.

But I want MORE.

No more of these scraps the republican shits throw us.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (LA+of)

89 As I tried to say yesterday the divide isn't as it was in 1861, it's sometimes no more than a county to county or town to town , block by block.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (pHfeF)

90 27 I haven't seen to many amicable divorces,. Ace, although my mother seemed to have one from her first husband. No children. She didn't ask for alimony because she was working. She stayed on good although distant terms with him. But what would an amicable divorce look like in this situation? Every states has a measure of leftists and a measure of conservatives.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 05:36 PM (O5K3f)


Couples where one has an attitude similar that of the left towards the right don't have an amicable divorce. Been there and done that. Attacks during the long and drawn out process of the divorce and continuing for several years afterwards.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (di1hb)

91 79

When you destroy respect in all its forms, as the Prog Ctrl-Left has been doing for the past 40 years or so, this is what you get.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (HaL55)

You missed the mark by a bit. This all started in the 19th century.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (7UW64)

92 The left tried to harass McConnell outside his house; Elaine Chao went right up to them and confronted them until security managed to get her away. That woman has more guts than her husband..Story at Townhall.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (a0IVu)

93 The Left harassed Mitch McConnell and his wife today at their home.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1011725777019265026

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (4e+hS)

94 77 Kick California out of the union first, see what happens next.
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Just return it to a territory and put bounties on Dems. Problem solved and profit.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (2LelM)

95 40 Can't we just make the others wear pussy hats so we can laugh at them? A civil war between Humans and Clowns? This is gonna be a war no one forgets."

That's what I was thinking. One side has been stockpiling guns and ammo for 20 years. The other side wears pussy hats and thinks guns are "icky". Not really gonna be much of a contest.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (k1TUh)

96 We need to discover a new, uninhabited continent to colonize.

Posted by: Emmie at June 26, 2018

No.

THEY need to find a planet to colonize.
I hear Uranus is nice.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (MiL20)

97 I don't want a divorce, I just want to wall them in like Montressor.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (gUCYC)

98 We need to discover a new, uninhabited continent to colonize.

Posted by: Emmie


Nope, it's mine. Let the other guys look for a new address.

Posted by: pep at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (LAe3v)

99 He's referring to an idea I've mentioned before myself, that there are "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" that predict divorce in a couple. Those Four Horsemen are criticism, defensiveness, stonewalling, and contempt.

Cuckolding doesn't even make the top 4? Wow.

All of which are singularly present in modern American "discourse."

Meh. Discourse isn't the problem. It's the fact taht leftists hate America - they hate the idea of America ... they hate the very idea of the nation-state. Now, that is a serious problem. When one spouse doesn't even believe in the concept of marriage ...

The county is toxic. It's time to split it up, For the Good of the Children.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:30 PM


My county is okay. The country is suffering from a problem of having a huge percentage of America-haters. There's nothing that can be done with them. THey hate the country - they certainly hate the county - and they hate us. Of course, they hate themselves, too, and are really pushing for the end of modern Man.

They are certainly not my countrymen. Easy call, as they don't even believe in the idea of a country. I have been pushing for a national divorce from these lowlifes for a very long time. It was clear when they voted the Indonesian Imbecile in that they were moving full steam ahead to national destruction (if not international devastation of advanced civilization).

Since this is on an urban/ex-urban split I am pretty much in favor of assigning them some sort of reservations in the urban areas they control and are mostly located in. That's the best deal they'd get from me, though.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (yzbCJ)

100 The county is toxic. It's time to split it up,

They'll never go for that. Who would they be able to make miserable?

Posted by: t-bird at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (U67az)

101 Soylent Green for all! I'm feeling a bit peckish.

Posted by: Corona at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (MceDl)

102 Can we hold off on the war until I get used to these new glasses?
Posted by: Weasel at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (MVjcR)

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Yeah, and I have a bbq to go to Saturday, followed by a day on the boat Sunday. Can we pencil it in for 10 a.m. EST Monday morning?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (I16G8)

103

That's our problem -- we always settle for just keeping what we have.

Fuck that. I want More.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (LA+of)

104 I hear Uranus is nice.
Posted by: Joe Mama

you know it

Posted by: Hope Solo at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (FZYNt)

105 These candiru aren't gonna feed themselves.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (89T5c)

106 "72

You know why we suck?
Because we never demand MORE.

When the Left gets something, they don't stop -- they demand more.

For example, that measly tax cut we got. We should demanding ANOTHER, BIGGER tax cut.

Why are we settling for that little shitty tax cut? Time to demand more. More tax cuts. More Freedom. More border security. More fbi accountability. More of all the shit we want.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (LA+of)"


^^^ THIS ^^^ times a very large number !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (GNCPT)

107 86 Fenalon: Most divorces are acrimonious (if my experience is any guide) because one of the participants is profoundly broken. Or as I like to say: the parasite never wants to give up the host. So they fight to keep what they have.

If two adults divorce, then it can be handled in an adult manner.
Posted by: Texian ette, Fate is a Foolish thing... at June 26, 2018 05:44 PM (gou4q)

"But I tell you, from the beginning it was not so."

There is a good reason why Jesus forbid divorce. He got that from his Daddy.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (7UW64)

108 divorce is for quitters.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (MTjB1)

109 I do not believe we are headed for a divorce.

The left is like the little girl who keeps poking Daddy. The left assumes that Daddy will remain a gentleman and not deck the little shit for misbehaving, because she is so cute and small. She is wrong.

The right is like Daddy. He puts up with some childish nonsense, and even tolerates a fair bit of dissent, but at the point of great harm, he will provide correction.

I firmly believe that President Trump is the beginning of that correction. I also firmly believe that the American people prefer the rule of law, and the use of fairness and intellect (i.e., adults in charge) to the free-for-all shitstorm that the leftists have tried to foist upon us, since the dawn of communism.

There are more gentlemen out there than brats.
Posted by: tcn in AK

____________

They're LITERALLY engaging in a coup with national security agencies and federal law enforcement.

As much as I would like to believe an election or two settles it, I think eventually it leads to bloodshed because one side won't accept elections.

Posted by: Pede at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (uc45P)

110 Social Media, Baby!

Instant access, -- near total isolation. We've become a feral civilization.

Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (J7XgW)

111 92 The left tried to harass McConnell outside his house; Elaine Chao went right up to them and confronted them until security managed to get her away. That woman has more guts than her husband..Story at Townhall.
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Old Man Weak. Me Not Like That. Me Hard. Said by every Tiger Mom from Asia. Watch out for Asians. They don't play.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (2LelM)

112 Off last nights sock!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (UOcKN)

113 How about a national referendum on whether people want a Civil War , a peaceful division of the country or to continue with the unworkable status quo.

My intention is not the actual vote result but to wake the people up who aren't engaging right now and are whistling pass the graveyard. I still believe there is a silent majority and they need to take our country back.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (xx+WQ)

114 OT: Dana Perino looks exceptionally fine tonight. Also, Juan Williams is an idiot. However, he's right is saying that Barry can't save the Democrats. What a bunch of damn children. (ADD HARUMPF HERE)

Posted by: simplemind at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (0/X4N)

115 hah. Titty meat.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (+lOpA)

116 Suppliers of Red Hen need to asked if they endorse this behavior, made aware that if they continue to supply they will be treated to boycotts, along with others they supply to.

Red Hen's menu helpfully lists some of their suppliers.

Posted by: MikeN at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (o/eHL)

117 It's the fact taht leftists hate America - they hate the idea of America ... they hate the very idea of the nation-state.




What leftists hate is being told they cannot do some things and must do some other things.

They are misbehaving children, heedless of consequences.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (7UW64)

118 THEY need to find a planet to colonize.
I hear Uranus is nice.
Posted by: Joe Mama


It's owned by kling-ons.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (W4LFA)

119 BIGGER tax cut.

Why are we settling for that little shitty tax cut? Time to demand more. More tax cuts. More Freedom. More border security. More fbi accountability. More of all the shit we want.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:43 PM (LA+of)

YES. Fuck the slippery slope. Make it a cliff. Give us everything.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2018 05:47 PM (YZSqu)

120 I have sinned in my heart with Dana. Oh yes.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (+lOpA)

121 Has the Deimoscr@ps called for the UN to monitor the elections yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (awqYm)

122 Everyone talks as if this situation is the fault of both sides. It isn't. It's coming entirely from the left.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (l9m7l)

123
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (fqUgw)

Minnesota, Not a chance. Trump almost won the state last time. He even won the deep blue Eighth Congressional District. Many steelworkers union workers didn't vote Democrat.

Remove Hennepin and Ramsey counties, and Minnesota is deep red. Hell, just remove everything inside the 494-694 ring road and Minnesota is red.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (4dz1m)

124 Which takes more balls, firing a bunch of Federal employees who are trying to over throw the government
or
overthrowing the government?

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (37IEG)

125 It's owned by kling-ons.
Posted by: rickb223

and will-nots

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (FZYNt)

126 I think it's what VDH touched on in that article yesterday. The elite don't live in the areas affected by their policies. They don't live with the crime the illegals bring. They don't lose their jobs when the labor market is flooded. If we can take that to their homes, they might feel differently.

When I have to deal with someone on Facebook whining about the children being separated, I say "Why do you hate people of color? They are the ones that can't find jobs. They are the ones affected by the crime in their neighborhoods". I fins this seems to shut them up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (Lqy/e)

127 97. Amontillado? I have my doubts.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (fA1SL)

128 They'll never go for that. Who would they be able to make miserable?

Posted by: t-bird at June 26, 2018 05:45 PM (U67az)

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I like the idea of a peaceful divorce, but if we're going to pull this off, we HAVE to convince the left that it's *their* idea, and we hate, hate, hate it.
They'll never go for it unless they think it's hurting us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (AzW6q)

129 For some reason Squeeze's "Is That Love?" springs to mind...

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2018 05:48 PM (W+vEI)

130 Here's the problem with any national breakup:

Let's say there's some new magical map that gets drawn up, and you have the Liberal States of America and the Conservative States of America. Yay! We're broken up!

The problem is that the liberals remaining in the CSA won't leave and won't accept it. Maybe some conservatives stay in the LSA, too, but they'll accept their position. Hell, maybe most people don't move anywhere. But I KNOW that the liberals who remain will continue to agitate. Public policy fights are not over until Liberals win, and then it's settled. Just ask them.

I mean, just look at gun control. You have California and New Jersey and Maryland and Massachussetts, which practically ban private gun ownership entirely. And then you have Tennessee and Kentucky and Texas and Arizona which practically hand you a pistol when you cross state lines. You can move from a gun control nightmare (Arizona) to a gun control dream (California) without much effort at all....but do liberals do that? No. They spend their time in AZ advocating to criminalize taking a friend to the range and magazine bans and scary looking gun bans and the like.

That will continue, because their thought is "Why should I move to somewhere that has everything I want when I could just make you cousin humping rednecks fall in line?"

Posted by: wizardpc at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (cDsbl)

131 Y'all are welcome to come set up the United Horde of Peruvia right here in AK.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (7UW64)

132 If you want a war, just turn off the welfare payments to a couple of Blue Bubble Cities. They will have a full scale war on their hands while we watch. After a few days you occupy these cities and you tell the other Blue Cities you're next if you piss us off.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (2LelM)

133 Yep. They don't like the country, get the fuck out.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (89T5c)

134 The crazies are relatively few in number. As someone up above suggests, maybe ten percent. Most people are OK and aren't going to go nuts. What we need is a way to peel off those ten percent who are guano crazy and put them somewhere safe for their own protection. Like Antarctica. They could conduct a coup against the penguins.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (md3fh)

135 Uranus ain't the kind of place to raise a kid.


In fact it's cold as hell.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (+lOpA)

136 James O'Keefe did a Prayer U video on the Media using Soviet tactics
https://tinyurl.com/ya3yhejj
They are as much of the problem as anything else.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (pHfeF)

137 They should charge a huge toll to foreigners who want to come here.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (xMnHK)

138 Nah. Oldest taffy yank at the HQ aside from ketchup/mustard on hot dogs, but still, nah.


People are already self-sorting, in a hundred ways. Moving to TX, AZ, TN, etc. from blue hellholes is the top of the chart. As you move down, a million variations of decreasing effort or impact, like not patronizing certain brands or businesses (think what happened to Target, hopefully what is happening to SBUX, hopefully but not likely will happen to AA, UA, et al), or dropping acquaintances/friends/even family who are mooonbat.


More Hodgkinson incidents? Sure, perhaps. But they'll be "incidents".


Not a shooting, geographic, or formal war. Just more of the same, what we have now.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (QDnY+)

139 The left tried to harass McConnell outside his house; Elaine Chao went right up to them and confronted them until security managed to get her away. That woman has more guts than her husband..Story at Townhall.
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Old Man Weak. Me Not Like That. Me Hard. Said by every Tiger Mom from Asia. Watch out for Asians. They don't play.
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Plus her family is Chinese tong. Every last one of those neck beards would end up as fish bait if they touched her.

Posted by: simplemind at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (BRaKL)

140 The problem is that the liberals remaining in the CSA won't leave and won't accept it.


Fine. Fertilizer.
Problem solved.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (W4LFA)

141 Remove Hennepin and Ramsey counties, and Minnesota is deep red. Hell, just remove everything inside the 494-694 ring road and Minnesota is red.
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Now you know why Minnesota needed 150k Somalis.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (2LelM)

142 Our previous civil war was quite unusual, historically, in that it was geographically based. Because of that, we are conditioned to think of civil wars in those terms, but that is not accurate. Any physical war today would be more like the Spanish Civil War of the 30's, or the English Civil war of the 1600's, where the opponents lived all mixed in with each other and fought a bitter winner take all battle for the whole enchilada. That is actually what most civil wars are like, which is why it's a good idea to try and keep from starting one if you can. Because when wars like that start, they devolve into a family by family, house by house killing spree almost every time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (k1TUh)

143 I wouldn't want to be in any Conservative States of America anyway. If we break up, I'm only interested in Greater Texas. The rest can hang.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (lmPMy)

144 I bet the supplier list on the Red Hen menu is exaggerated. They probably get their product from Sysco.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (++G28)

145 108 divorce is for quitters.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM (MTjB1)

But you can't just make bad actors disappear like old days with the old ways, which were the best ways

Posted by: Dr. Rockzo at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (kBuGL)

146 The lefty States would get all the pyjama boys and trannies. They'd get all the safe spaces and the leftist professors. They'd get all the people who are personal hygiene averse and work averse.
That's an awful lot for the other states to give up.
Oh shrieking lunatics would also go with the left.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (eAMlh)

147 6
How does this go down though?



Because I do think we are very close to this, but my guess is it
will be unsavory elements that align themselves with "conservatism" that
will be taking the first actual shots.



Think something like Charlottesville but far bigger.



I want a national, peaceful divorce, I don't want to align myself with certain groups that will likely be first in the fight.
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sorry, but nothing peaceful will come out of it. not even close. and sorry, you better align yourself with some side, or all sides will be against you, no sitting out this one.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (UsCnO)

148 If you want a war, just turn off the welfare payments to a couple of Blue Bubble Cities. They will have a full scale war on their hands while we watch. After a few days you occupy these cities and you tell the other Blue Cities you're next if you piss us off.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (2LelM)


That'd work.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (yzbCJ)

149 Uranus ain't the kind of place to raise a kid.


In fact it's cold as hell.
Posted by: eleven


Gassy too.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (W4LFA)

150 Plus her family is Chinese tong. Every last one of those neck beards would end up as fish bait if they touched her.

Posted by: simplemind at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (BRaKL)
Yup. You don't mess w/ them. Or her for that matter.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (a0IVu)

151 Btw, this Civil War stuff is gaslighting.

How do people not see that!?

Who does it benefit? Who wants it?

The people out of power want back in. This is a way to achieve it. I've written posts on this before, so I'll spare you the rest.

The Resistance Complex wants a war. They have been pushing it, gaslighting us, since last June. it has not worked. Everyday people are too smart. They know they are being baited.

I like Glenn, but it makes me sad to read things like this. Or Prager (who I don't read), or Ace.

You are being played. You are being used. They want a civil war.. why would you give it to them or stoke the idea.

Plus, I like butter, sugar, cofveve, and all other comforts too much.

i also do not want a Caliphate and Mexican Invasion, do you? Cause that's what you will get. People, please think this through before stirring the pot.

Sorry for typos.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (1lhwM)

152 No doubt we can continue for decades with the one step forward two steps back scenario but eventually we know that the America we once knew will be gone. Replaced by something unrecognizable to someone from a generation prior. Kicking the can down the road is a definite option.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (xx+WQ)

153 Our previous civil war was quite unusual, historically, in that it was geographically based. Because of that, we are conditioned to think of civil wars in those terms, but that is not accurate. Any physical war today would be more like the Spanish Civil War of the 30's, or the English Civil war of the 1600's, where the opponents lived all mixed in with each other and fought a bitter winner take all battle for the whole enchilada. That is actually what most civil wars are like, which is why it's a good idea to try and keep from starting one if you can. Because when wars like that start, they devolve into a family by family, house by house killing spree almost every time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June




yep. real civil war now would be a bloodbath.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (MTjB1)

154 130. That's why physical removal is essential. No one who advocates for the alteration or dissolution of the community, no one who violates and advocates for the violation of the rights of the community as constituted can be permitted to stay. They must leave, or be removed. There's no other way.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (fA1SL)

155 All I knows is, I live in a place I won't have to move from unless some really weird shit happens.

And I'm not feeling shy about the idea of showing people who want to live in places like New York city, Boston, or LA where the border for the state is.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 05:52 PM (37IEG)

156 Because when wars like that start, they devolve into a family by family, house by house killing spree almost every time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (k1TUh)

Our very own Troubles.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:52 PM (7UW64)

157 When I realized that the profoundly stupid and/or ignorant decided to get involved with politics, I stopped trying to plead the conservative case for anything. Reason and logic were met with vitriol and name calling. I'm out. I've never been interested in politics for a win for my "team", unless you consider my fellow Americans my team (and I can't anymore).

Too bad, but that's the way it is. Whoever it is that decided to pit us against each other has won the day.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 26, 2018 05:52 PM (z79tQ)

158 Balkanization?

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at June 26, 2018 05:52 PM (iTpm7)

159 143
I wouldn't want to be in any Conservative States of America anyway. If
we break up, I'm only interested in Greater Texas. The rest can hang.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (lmPMy)
Amen.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (37IEG)

160 I'm only interested in Greater Texas. The rest can hang.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (lmPMy)

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Greater Texas Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (AzW6q)

161 Maybe your anus is cold. Mine is quite comfy, thank you very much.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (md3fh)

162 why would someone consider surrendering any of our country to these people?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (MTjB1)

163 Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance

This talk of "divorce" is bargaining. Its not realistic. You need to get through to depression and beyond so you can get your collective sh!+ together.

Posted by: simplemind at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (j5a3r)

164 Balkanization?
Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at June 26, 2018 05:52 PM (iTpm7)

Northern Ireland?

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (eAMlh)

165 >>Think something like Charlottesville but far bigger.




And the leader of that alt-right group was a Lefty activist.

We may not want to start something, but I bet the Left will use false flags to blame it on "Nazi Trumpies"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (W+vEI)

166 you all probably seen the Turtle get harassed at his home? I think these soyboys need a counter protest at some point.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 05:53 PM (FOPyv)

167 158. Balkanization?
**
Yes. Accordions for all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (fA1SL)

168 But it's wrong for our side to despair - the left is actually extremely top heavy, with very little effective grass roots support. If you were to eliminate the top 1000 leftists in media, government, universities, and business, they would be totally decapitated and unable to function at all. That's not much of a civil war. Of course, if taking out the first 1000 names doesn't discourage, keep on going. The more public, the better. Imagine George Clooney in front of a firing squad, that'd get some attention.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (k1TUh)

169 Not splittin shit up.

I be go to hell if I will cede ONE INCH of MY country to these misbegotten bastards.


You wish to see shit fly, then attempt to divide us.

One Civil War didn't, neither will another.

Deliberate treason in the form of surrender to the idea might.


But not on my watch.




Posted by: irongrampa at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (S/hVx)

170 38 My friend's brother is always implying that I'm a racist. Maybe I should call the public school he works for and inform them he's the decendant of a slave owner?
Posted by: Oschisms at June 26, 2018 05:38 PM (kp1nB)

Put a Stars and Bars bumper sticker on his car the night before. Call the president of the black teachers union committee too.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (4dz1m)

171 More Hodgkinson incidents? Sure, perhaps. But they'll be "incidents".

Suppose Hodgkinson II is a better, and smarter, shot; and succeeds in rubbing out a few R senators in purple-to-blue states where the Governor can appoint a D or RINO replacement. Flips the Senate.

That's a hell of an 'incident'. [Pardon my blasphemy, Fen.]

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (6FqZa)

172

Our president is trying to use leverage and negotiate a better trade deal for us, and what do those rotten cucks do? They undermine the president, and conspire to pass a LAW to prohibit the president of the United States to alter the international trade deals in any way.

Flake is the lead cuck on this. Flake is a loser.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (LA+of)

173 They're LITERALLY engaging in a coup with national security agencies and federal law enforcement.

As much as I would like to believe an election or two settles it, I think eventually it leads to bloodshed because one side won't accept elections.

Posted by: Pede at June 26, 2018 05:46 PM



I am not particularly concerned as I walk down any given street in any given town...except a big city. I know I am hated there.
But this is significant. This is important.
Unless Government gets itself fixed, and transparently so, the distrust will linger and fester.
There are other issues: media, education, etc, but the government must be seen as fair. If not, it will be trouble.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (0tfLf)

174 Here's the problem with any national breakup:

Let's say there's some new magical map that gets drawn up, and you have the Liberal States of America and the Conservative States of America. Yay! We're broken up!

The problem is that the liberals remaining in the CSA won't leave and won't accept it. Maybe some conservatives stay in the LSA, too, but they'll accept their position. Hell, maybe most people don't move anywhere. But I KNOW that the liberals who remain will continue to agitate. Public policy fights are not over until Liberals win, and then it's settled. Just ask them.

I mean, just look at gun control. You have California and New Jersey and Maryland and Massachussetts, which practically ban private gun ownership entirely. And then you have Tennessee and Kentucky and Texas and Arizona which practically hand you a pistol when you cross state lines. You can move from a gun control nightmare (Arizona) to a gun control dream (California) without much effort at all....but do liberals do that? No. They spend their time in AZ advocating to criminalize taking a friend to the range and magazine bans and scary looking gun bans and the like.

That will continue, because their thought is "Why should I move to somewhere that has everything I want when I could just make you cousin humping rednecks fall in line?"
Posted by: wizardpc

___________

It's about where the blue concentration is. Obviously any new country is not going to have monolithic ideology.

But you take like 4-5 ultra blue cities out of the mix, America is a MUCH different country.

It also just takes a few Constitutional Amendments to fix America forever. Like a Balanced Budget Amendment, that alone would probably solve 9 out of 10 problems with out of control big government.

Posted by: Pede at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (uc45P)

175 "142 Our previous civil war was quite unusual, historically, in that it was geographically based. Because of that, we are conditioned to think of civil wars in those terms, but that is not accurate. Any physical war today would be more like the Spanish Civil War of the 30's, or the English Civil war of the 1600's, where the opponents lived all mixed in with each other and fought a bitter winner take all battle for the whole enchilada. That is actually what most civil wars are like, which is why it's a good idea to try and keep from starting one if you can. Because when wars like that start, they devolve into a family by family, house by house killing spree almost every time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (k1TUh)"



Yeah, more like Bosnia.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (GNCPT)

176 Balkanization? Are those the shitty purple ones with the cheap rents?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (xMnHK)

177 Can we wait a couple years to split up? I'm stuck on the entirely wrong side of the divide at the moment.

Posted by: Defenestratus at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (yG6Vk)

178 The worst kind of war we could fall into is a Dirty War. I just don't see that happening, but it is the only plausible one. Those doing the pushing can't do pushups and wear skinny jeans. These are not Shining Path Guerillas capable of Long Marches. These are posers who can't make it through a day without a stop at Starbucks and without constantly reading their IPhone. Does anyone imagine Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, or Lizzy Warren could marshal an army? Bueller?

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (2LelM)

179 to me, the dirty agitprop is a leftist tool. But they indeed infiltrated so many of our institutions, that they were pretty successful at dividing us.

Still, 70+% want the border enforced and less legal immigration. And most feel DC is a corrupt cartel, and that the big banks and leveraged traders cheated by getting massive bailouts and manipulation of markets. And are the deplorables really a bunch of racists, or is that also just a Dem talking point that street level Dems don't really believe?

People have been taught to hate Trump yet agreed with his general policies, and now even his approval rating keeps going up, using even the contrived polls. That in the face of the constant blitzkrieg from the (11% approval) MSM.

There is still some hope ... an election of people that are not establishment would help a lot, and the MSM is being displaced by alternative media. The oligarchs can't conscript a whole army, so we the masses could win. The left actually seems to be in desperation mode ... losing their grip on the proles.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (bT8Z4)

180 yep. real civil war now would be a bloodbath.

Too bad their side has been anti-gun for so long.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (oVJmc)

181 Just because the vocal minority has the megaphone(msm), does not make them the majority.


Starting with the people smacking down Bush and the Gang of 8 immigration capitulation, then the Tea Party, and now Trump, the silent majority are Woke, to use a word popular with the minority.

If Trump plays his cards right, and shines a light upon the corrupt-o-fucks and exposes them to the point of undeniability, there is a small chance of peaceful resolution.

But knowing actual human history...

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (BqR2k)

182 I think this self sorting will make it even worse. Yes, I am grateful there are idiots anxious to give us big dollars for this house. It means the area gets more and more liberal. It makes a hot civil war more likely.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (Lqy/e)

183 War Lord Bill Kristol has a ring to it.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (eAMlh)

184 175.
REMOVE QUINOA

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (fA1SL)

185 FFS!!!!! Titty Meat?? Titty Meat??? What a bunch of dumb fucking titty talk today. Like being with a group of dumb ass liberals.

Later assholes.

Posted by: flyover at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (aUHJk)

186 That will continue, because their thought is "Why
should I move to somewhere that has everything I want when I could just
make you cousin humping rednecks fall in line?"



Posted by: wizardpc at June 26, 2018 05:49 PM (cDsbl)

In a nutsack.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (iTpm7)

187 I mean nutshell.

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (iTpm7)

188 167 158. Balkanization?
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Yes. Accordions for all.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (fA1SL)

Now THAT is worth starting a war to end.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (7UW64)

189 "America had one disastrous civil war, and those who fought it did a
surprisingly good job of coming together afterward, realizing how awful
it was to have a political divide that set brother against brother."
There isn't one stinking commie, dead, alive, or unborn, who qualifies as my "brother". If we're going to do this, it will be necessary to make sure we don't have to do it twice. They won't be satisfied with an amicable split, or divvying up territory. They mean to be our overlords forever. There is only going to be one way to stop them.

Posted by: Monty James at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (gKOMX)

190 The country is already broken up into 50 states. If things worked like they are supposed to everything would be fine.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (UdKB7)

191 185 FFS!!!!! Titty Meat?? Titty Meat??? What a bunch of dumb fucking titty talk today. Like being with a group of dumb ass liberals.

Later assholes.
Posted by: flyover

he must be new here

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (FZYNt)

192 Martial Law would put a crimp in turnout in the Blue Areas for the next few elections.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (oVJmc)

193 How about a national referendum on whether people want a Civil War , a peaceful division of the country or to continue with the unworkable status quo.


No. Big fat no.

It is not unworkable status quo, have people not been paying attention to changes. Do you forget that Twitter and Media amplify the small percentage of crazies.

To even consider a stupid question like that means we've lost. Just reading that depressed the fucking hell out of me.

Sounds like something Soros would endorse.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (1lhwM)

194 I wouldn't want to be in any Conservative States of America anyway. If we break up, I'm only interested in Greater Texas. The rest can hang.
Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls


Texas to Louisiana and north to Canada.
After we straighten out Kansas.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (W4LFA)

195 Posted by: irongrampa at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM (S/hVx)

I've got news for you. You've been watching a covert ceding of your country for the last half century.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (xx+WQ)

196 "OT: Dana Perino looks exceptionally fine tonight.
Posted by: pep"


I get to watch her shower every morning. I'm a lucky dog.

Posted by: Jasper at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (OD2ni)

197 185: WTF?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (89T5c)

198 In relation to the Red Hen incident, I've seen it mentioned several times that there is such a thing as southern hospitality, and they failed at that bit of social glue.

Many northerners, coming to the South with their preloaded concepts of southern prejudice, leave here amazed at how polite and solicitous and friendly everyone is to them.

To their utter amazement. I've lived in both 'climes', and northerners are rude to a fault. No sirs or maams, short on thanks yous and excuse mes, the place is short on social lube.

But that never stopped me from saying 'thank you' to damn near every clerk I dealt with in the north.

Cuz I came preloaded too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (0ogQG)

199 161
Maybe your anus is cold.


What the hell did you think we're always checking for?

Posted by: dogs at June 26, 2018 05:57 PM (LAe3v)

200 he must be new here

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (FZYNt)

<snorts>

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (iTpm7)

201 I got a kick out of Elaine Chao going after those pajama boys harassing her at Georgetown. I especially alughed at the pajama boy that only got mouthy after security got in between. "Hold me back. Hold me back."

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (OD2ni)

202 The problem is the Federal Government has way too much power. A large part of it is unconstitutional.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)

203 182 I think this self sorting will make it even worse. Yes, I am grateful there are idiots anxious to give us big dollars for this house. It means the area gets more and more liberal. It makes a hot civil war more likely.
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The self sorting is what the Globalist want. You see it in NYC, SF, and London. These are banking centers. The global wealthy feel safer surrounded by imports paranoids rather than native egalitarians. If your business is gutting the economic wealth of a native people, would you want to be physically surrounded by them? Do you have any idea how violent white Europeans can get when they get cheated? Shit yeah, you want a lot low IQ newbies around to shift blame onto.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (2LelM)

204

You missed the mark by a bit. This all started in the 19th century.

Perhaps, but it got ramped way up in the '60's. That's when the Ctrl-Left started running ad agencies and then networks. A lot of their messaging is in commercials.

There's simply no respect for anyone or anything these days. If you fill a child's head with nonsense and constantly tell it that it's just the bestest human ever to walk the Earth and that's it's unique and special and oh-so-smart, you're building an emotional wall against new knowledge. They already know everything and their ego is so engorged that they refuse to learn anything.

That's some real brainwashing right there.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (HaL55)

205 "At most 10% of the population. Take away their media and they will return to being forgettable lumps of no promise.
Posted by: Gumby "

====================================

10% is the number that will follow though on "punching a Nazi"(rationalized to anyone they don't agree with" )

That's manageable. If you add in the coalition of the ones willing to kill your livelihood (get you fired or ruin your business over mainstream political beliefs) the number approaches 30-35%, I think.

These are the folks you can't and don't want to bargain with.


The right has had it's moments of rhetorical over-reach and near violent charismatic speech over the years, but the media has always been there to (rightfully in those cases) shame the perps into retreat, so the mania never spread. Now they are intentionally fanning the flames so that it will reach critical mass (>45%), in which case, all is effectively lost for E Pluribus Unum.

Posted by: theATL at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (yFgwo)

206 Many northerners, coming to the South with their preloaded concepts of southern prejudice, leave here amazed at how polite and solicitous and friendly everyone is to them.

To their utter amazement. I've lived in both 'climes', and northerners are rude to a fault. No sirs or maams, short on thanks yous and excuse mes, the place is short on social lube.

But that never stopped me from saying 'thank you' to damn near every clerk I dealt with in the north.

Cuz I came preloaded too.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (0ogQG)

I'm from north of the north and I'm polite if I say so myself.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (eAMlh)

207 I knew the opposition had it's boots on when they changed Pluto's status to "other than a planet." The not-so-subtle-tell. The talking down to the serfs. The "it's just a wobbly ice-comet-thing." insult.

That was simply a bridge too far.

Posted by: 13times at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (K3B2k)

208 "161 Maybe your anus is cold. Mine is quite comfy, thank you very much.
Posted by: Ruthless"


Go on.

Posted by: Shep Smith at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (OD2ni)

209 201
I got a kick out of Elaine Chao going after those pajama boys harassing
her at Georgetown. I especially alughed at the pajama boy that only got
mouthy after security got in between. "Hold me back. Hold me back."


Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (OD2ni)
Lol...I think she would have kicked his ass had security not intervened.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (a0IVu)

210 Our previous civil war was quite unusual, historically, in that it was geographically based. Because of that, we are conditioned to think of civil wars in those terms, but that is not accurate. Any physical war today would be more like the Spanish Civil War of the 30's, or the English Civil war of the 1600's, where the opponents lived all mixed in with each other and fought a bitter winner take all battle for the whole enchilada. That is actually what most civil wars are like, which is why it's a good idea to try and keep from starting one if you can. Because when wars like that start, they devolve into a family by family, house by house killing spree almost every time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (k1TUh)


That's because it wasn't a real "civil war". There weren't two factions fighting over control of one nation. One group left the nation and then the other group fought to capture a, then, foreign nation. Both were legitimate actions.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at June 26, 2018 06:00 PM (yzbCJ)

211 FFS!!!!! Titty Meat?? Titty Meat???


That would be a cool sample for a rap song.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:00 PM (+lOpA)

212 If we split up, can we give the national debt to California?

They do wonders with deficit spending.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 26, 2018 06:00 PM (EoRCO)

213 yep. real civil war now would be a bloodbath.

Too bad their side has been anti-gun for so long.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Too bad their side has fucked with us for 50 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 06:00 PM (W4LFA)

214 I want to know, with all their antics, how the Left assumes we will meekly submit to their rule should they ever regain power (not that we could ever trust the legitimacy of that ascension).

Posted by: Killeen at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (rss1H)

215 Remove Hennepin and Ramsey counties, and Minnesota is deep red. Hell, just remove everything inside the 494-694 ring road and Minnesota is red.
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Now you know why Minnesota needed 150k Somalis.
Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 05:50 PM (
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With more coming every day.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (4dz1m)

216 "Americans' lives used to involve a lot more intermediating institutions -- churches, fraternal organizations, neighborhoods"

All of which the reactionary left has gone all-in to destroy.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (T09ml)

217 "192 Martial Law would put a crimp in turnout in the Blue Areas for the next few elections.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (oVJmc)"


First honest election in Chicago (or any other major demonrat s*hole) in 50 or 100 years.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (GNCPT)

218 What the hell did you think we're always checking for?
Posted by: dogs at June 26, 2018 05:57 PM (LAe3v)

My friend's mom explained it to me this way:

A long time ago, all of the dogs were invited to a fancy dinner party. They all came up the long elegant steps to the second floor ballroom, and hung up their tails in the coatroom so they could sit more comfortably on the fancy chairs.

A fire broke out in the kitchen, and they all ran out so fast that they grabbed whatever tail they could find. [I know, phrasing.]

So the dogs all got the wrong tails, and they have been checking ever since to see who got theirs.



She also said that a dog with a high-held tail was just taking a picture.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (7UW64)

219 It's just like people think planes fall out of the sky all the time when reality is they don't. Who cares what Alyssa Milano said today? Maxine Waters blathers the same crap she has done for decades. So what? Same with Keith Ellison and all the others. I work for a big company in a big city and for the most part everyone gets along great - left, middle, right, conservative, liberal, whatever. Remember that lots of bad sh*t happened in the 1960's too, much worse than what is going on today. It's not near as bad as the MSM/bloggers/tweeters/etc. would like you to believe.

Posted by: Tommy at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (yEAdf)

220 Posted by: flyover

Flying over the HQ to do nothing more than drop a turd. Who's your mentor, Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (6FqZa)

221 Texas to Louisiana and north to Canada.
After we straighten out Kansas."

I could live with that. Got most of the energy production and a lot of the food production of the entire country right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (k1TUh)

222 Didja see that Jerry Seinfeld has been unpersoned? He said that firing Roseanne Barr was "overkill". Clear racist hate speech.

https://bit.ly/2tE52XZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (4ruca)

223 BTH, do you have any insights to share for the primaries today? Mr. Bassman and I are filling out our ballots.

Posted by: Emmie at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (/A+Cl)

224 202 The problem is the Federal Government has way too much power. A large part of it is unconstitutional.
Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)



Baziiiiiiinggggg. Trump is working on it.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (+lOpA)

225 211 FFS!!!!! Titty Meat?? Titty Meat???


That would be a cool sample for a rap song.
Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:00 PM (+lOpA)

*furiously scribbles notes*

Posted by: MC Honey Mustard at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (kBuGL)

226 Then again, maybe we shouldn't let the left have the migrant kids. The kids really don't deserve that . . . . . . . . . .
Posted by: TrivialPursuer


Put them all in cages with pedophiles, and put it on Pay per View! It will finance the Civil War!!!!

Posted by: Peter Fonda, old man in Hollywood at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (vcOmj)

227 it's weird, being cucked up since 1998 has only emboldened the left.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (FOPyv)

228 I'm from north of the north and I'm polite if I say so myself.
Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (eAMlh)

North and West.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (7UW64)

229 Watching the Butthurt on CNN.

Hi-Lar-EE-Us

Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (Gvnja)

230 To their utter amazement. I've lived in both 'climes', and northerners are rude to a fault. No sirs or maams, short on thanks yous and excuse mes, the place is short on social lube.
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When in upstate NY I talk to cashiers just like I do down here. They get nervous and don't know what to do or say. You know you're in Puritan country when you meet this phenomena. A very repressed, judgmental people.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (2LelM)

231

So, if there is a 'national divorce' will it be geographical? We'd have to shuffle about like nomads to find a new home if we're in the wrong 'zone.'

Posted by: Sphynx at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (rXie1)

232 When they called out the titty meat, all hell broke loose.

Is this a thing?

Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (J7XgW)

233 I feel like it started long before I was ever born.

And that Woodrow Wilson was when it was unofficially declared.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (9De+S)

234 Hmm, we could move Kansas to Ohio. That would work, right. Kasich could be the new King of Kansio.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (md3fh)

235 "Lol...I think she would have kicked his ass had security not intervened.
Posted by: IC"


I think so. She is a tougher lady than I thought. They were taken aback. That tweet Mitch sent of him with Gorsuch this morning after the SCOTUS decisions really drove them crazy.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (OD2ni)

236 Our president is trying to use leverage and negotiate a better trade deal for us, and what do those rotten cucks do? They undermine the president, and conspire to pass a LAW to prohibit the president of the United States to alter the international trade deals in any way.

Flake is the lead cuck on this. Flake is a loser.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 26, 2018 05:54 PM

They're intent on denying Trump the prerogatives of his office. They stated it out in the open before he was inaugurated. They were not going to allow the normalization of Trump. They were going to Resist. Everything he did/does is portrayed as being beyond the scope of his constitutional powers, aberrant, unprecedented, reckless, and dangerous. Trump has to wade through this shit waterfall every day. So far, so good.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (2NqXo)

237 221 Texas to Louisiana and north to Canada.
After we straighten out Kansas."

I could live with that. Got most of the energy production and a lot of the food production of the entire country right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:01 PM (k1TUh)

Just so long as we can kick out the Austin City Council. Or even if there is no divorce can't someone come & pick up the ATX city council & leave them in Cali?

Posted by: batterup at June 26, 2018 06:03 PM (U2JQS)

238 Cuz I came preloaded too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (0ogQG)



I'm from north of the north and I'm polite if I say so myself.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at June 26, 2018 05:59 PM (eAMlh)There's polite, and then there's polite. Found that out after 6 months of living here back in the day and then going home for a visit and thinking "HOW RUDE!" when people acted what was Boston normal.
As I grew older I noticed once they realized I didn't want something from them (because people you don't know are only nice if they WANT something you know....) they could actually be decent too.


Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (37IEG)

239 he must be new here
Posted by: Rick in SK at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (FZYNt)
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Nobody tell him what the pudding is for...

Posted by: not the mama at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (t2AQi)

240 RE: self sorting, people have been doing it for ages. And are STILL doing it.

Italian neighborhoods. Jewish neighborhoods. Asian neighborhoods. Arabic neighborhoods. Etc.

I think people like being around those who have similar backgrounds, and, to some extent, ideas.


Posted by: shibumi at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (AHNMM)

241 231. Nope. Not how that's gonna go. They'll be heaved into Mexico or Canada. I repeat - Americans stay; seditious POS progs go.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (fA1SL)

242 If you haven't seen Kurt Schlicter's take:

Leftists scream "You can't rebel!!! The Army has tanks!!!!"

Kurt says, yeah, but some red-necked hick will wait for the tank commander to get out of his tank to take a piss and then take his head off with a 30.06 from 300 yards.

Then go after the fuel and ammunition trucks.

One A1-A1 Abrams tank, now 45 tons of scrap metal.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (T09ml)

243

OK, just realized that's been a lot of the discussion here

Posted by: Sphynx at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (rXie1)

244 the other problem is that our cucked up side is on the side of the lefty harassers. The minute a bunch of GOP dudes counter protest, that's the problem..taht's the time that civility hath doth failed. If the mitch residence had counter protestors that got into their faces, it'd be a day of learning or something.

Which is bullshit. At least trump would be on our side. ,maybe.

so the problem is, the civil war will be one on side:

1. the army
2. the police
3. the dnc
4. the media
5. the rabid nutbag leftwing coalition

versus

6. maybe 10 GOP counter protestors.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (FOPyv)

245 If America did separate into two countries, the leftist half wouldn't exist long because it thinks it deserves death. They'd get all the illegals, the BLMers and the Muslims.

Whenever the illegals run over them, the BLMers play the knockout game or the Muslims blow them up, they'll say "We deserve it!" and set them free. They won't have any children. They will live out the rest of their lives, for the most part as the ruling class, and then die out by attrition. Then leftist America will be just another third world shithole.

Separation in the long term will mean victory, since the left is fighting against itself to destroy itself. Fine, I wish them luck in their fight to do this.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (/qEW2)

246 Flake is a traitor. Probably a Russian bot. Somebody should pull the plug on him.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:04 PM (md3fh)

247 "^^^ THIS ^^^ times a very large number !"

How about 126?

Posted by: Octopussy at June 26, 2018 06:05 PM (jyQ5x)

248 206 I'm from north of the north and I'm polite if I say so myself.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing


I'm speaking collectively. I'm sure there are many exceptions, just as there are many Hordelets in CA.

But when the social glue that binds us together gets too dilute, we will fall apart faster than a dime store novel.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 26, 2018 06:05 PM (0ogQG)

249 I find plenty of people saying "please" and "thank you" in the North; I'm one of them. :^) However, I never had a prejudice against Southerners and spent four happy years there in college.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:05 PM (O5K3f)

250 "Didja see that Jerry Seinfeld has been unpersoned? He said that firing Roseanne Barr was "overkill". Clear racist hate speech.

https://bit.ly/2tE52XZ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,"


The left has been waiting for an esxcuse to go after him ever since he said he won't do shows on college campuses anymore since the students are too sensitive.

Posted by: Benji Carver at June 26, 2018 06:05 PM (OD2ni)

251 Elaine Chao reminds me of Wendi Deng defending Rupert Murdoch from a pie attack (IIRC) that one time...

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2018 06:05 PM (W+vEI)

252 "The county is toxic. It's time to split it up, For the Good of the Children."
Not yet. I want my pound of flesh first.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (jWe5r)

253
That's because it wasn't a real "civil war". There weren't two factions fighting over control of one nation. One group left the nation and then the other group fought to capture a, then, foreign nation. Both were legitimate actions.
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Bingo. It was a war of territorial control. Lincoln could not allow the mouth of the Mississippi to be controlled by another country. Had nothing to do with slavery - four of the Union states were slave states. It was all about Manifest Destiny - which posited a west free of Indians and Negroes.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (2LelM)

254 Emmie: I'm a big fan of Justin Everett for Treasurer. That's my official hobo endorsement.

For Governor, I personally voted Lopez but can accept a Stapleton victory. The other guys didn't come to Assembly and therefore are not friends to the GOP base.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (6FqZa)

255 notsothoreau, yep, self-sorting makes things "worse" in some ways, but that wasn't my point. My point was that this self-sorting was the sort of thing that will continue, and takes the place of sustained organized armed conflict.


BTH, who knows, indeed some future "incidents" could be much worse. I was just saying that actual kinetic stuff is likely to be limited to such incidents, vs. an actual sustained "civil war".




Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (QDnY+)

256 202
The problem is the Federal Government has way too much power. A large part of it is unconstitutional.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS is what the real problem is, and
190
The country is already broken up into 50 states. If things worked like they are supposed to everything would be fine.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (UdKB7)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS is what it should be, but isn't, because of
202
The problem is the Federal Government has way too much power. A large part of it is unconstitutional.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Thanks, f'd, for doing all my work for me.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (UsCnO)

257 A national divorce will necessarily require relocations. Forced, or otherwise. Period. Full. Stop.

Let that sink in. Who among us are willing to leave everything behind?

And bet your sweet asses that there will be people on both sides willing and able to rip off anyone who tries.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (iiixZ)

258 Hmm, we could move Kansas to Ohio. That would work, right. Kasich could be the new King of Kansio.
--

I was in Ohio a few weeks ago, walking down Kasich's street. He came by, unescorted in a black SUV and waved in my general direction.

Of course, he thought he was waving at a taxpayer.

I'm from MI.

He wasted the wave.

But still... there was a thought behind it. Or a powerful reflex.

Posted by: shibumi at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (AHNMM)

259 I have no problem with the left wanting to destroy itself. It's just that they want to take down the rest of us with it. If we can figure out some way to extricate ourselves, that's all we need.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (/qEW2)

260 The Libs are REELING. This really threw them for a loop.

Could not have happened to a more deserving group.

Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (Gvnja)

261 I thought titty meat was kind of funny. Never heard it before and chuckled.

Posted by: Bosk at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (fjMEv)

262 Just so long as we can kick out the Austin City Council.

Yeah, Austin is going to be problematical. Maybe we could turn it into a petting zoo and put the capital back in Washington on the Brazos, I ain't ready to put it back in Houston either.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (37IEG)

263 "Kurt says, yeah, but some red-necked hick will wait for the tank commander to get out of his tank to take a piss and then take his head off with a 30.06 from 300 yards.

Then go after the fuel and ammunition trucks.

One A1-A1 Abrams tank, now 45 tons of scrap metal."

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or we'll have the tanks. or not. Either way, you're going to have to deal with lefty home invaders. You watch the vietnam docs, they'll bury your family alive because progress and tolerance.

luckily, we're not disarmed.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (FOPyv)

264 Didja see that Jerry Seinfeld has been unpersoned? He said that firing Roseanne Barr was "overkill". Clear racist hate speech.

https://bit.ly/2tE52XZ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:02 P

Okay, the new wait staff at Red Hen is Jerry Seinfeld, Roseanne, Kathy Griffin, and Stormy Daniels. No customers will be coming in, but they can argue all day long whose turn it is to clean the grease trap.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (2NqXo)

265 I think, when we look back on these years, the straw that broke the camel's back will be the trans issue.

If you have one side that is religiously committed to the idea that you can make up your own gender, and another that believes that the existence of two and only two genders is a fundamental constraint of human nature, then you have two views of society that are fundamentally irreconcilable. I don't use the term "religiously committed" lightly, because the disagreement here really is on the order of a difference in religious opinion.

That in itself wouldn't be a dealbreaker, if both parties were committed to their continued union. It wouldn't be ideal, but it would be possible to muddle along and deal with all the resulting problems on an ad hoc basis. Think of marriages between people of different religions -- it CAN work, if both parties put a very high premium on making it work. It's hard, damn hard, but doable. But if one or both parties isn't committed to it, the arrangement is doomed, because disagreements on deep, fundamental issues will continually arise -- and often in ways nobody could have imagined.

I think the next major national 9/11-style crisis will be the precipitating event in a national divorce. Right now we're just cruising along on inertia; we're like the couple that's sticking together because nothing better is currently available, and we're not annoyed enough yet to cut a check to some divorce lawyer. But it won't stay that way forever. It never does.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at June 26, 2018 06:07 PM (R1mDg)

266 "A national divorce will necessarily require relocations. Forced, or otherwise. Period. Full. Stop. "

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well, that's what happened after the revolutionary war. It just made sense. Go to Canada, you loyalist scum.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:08 PM (FOPyv)

267 262. There will be some deportations required to clean up those blue anomalies. Nothing too drastic.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:08 PM (fA1SL)

268 We get the house. They get the debt and the kids who keep popping up at the door/border.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 26, 2018 06:08 PM (J70i0)

269 I was so happy today about all the winning, then up pops Civil War.

We are still living in the best country. But we have gotten so used to it, we enter a tunnel of turmoil and suddenly it's Civil War.

There have been other threads on this, and I remember the points people made, and I'm not gonna repeat all their wisdom.

This civil war talk coming from both sides is self-destructive. It reminds me of how the Southern men were so fired up about going to war and after a few days felt the reality of it...which was death.

Stop with the civil war battle shit.
Cold or soft civil war...fine.

Otherwise,

Lighten Up Francis, and
Fuck Off Jamie

No wonder our country is screwed up if we can't navigate our way through all this without calling War. Great lesson for children and young adults.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:08 PM (1lhwM)

270 Did the bill- or whatever it was-to stop Trump doing trade deals-pass?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:09 PM (O5K3f)

271 190 The country is already broken up into 50 states. If things worked like they are supposed to everything would be fine.
Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:55 PM (UdKB7)

If the assholes in Nebraska had a two house legislature, 90% of these stupid state issues would be resolved too. Thanks to their unicameral legislature, states all went to proportional representation in their state senates after the US Supreme Court said the one house Nebraska legislature had to be proportional representation.

Posted by: rd at June 26, 2018 06:09 PM (4dz1m)

272
If America did separate into two countries, the leftist half wouldn't
exist long because it thinks it deserves death. They'd get all the
illegals, the BLMers and the Muslims.

--

So, the Left will prove that Natural Selection works?

I'm... OK with that.

Posted by: shibumi at June 26, 2018 06:09 PM (AHNMM)

273 Of course, he thought he was waving at a taxpayer.

I'm from MI.

He wasted the wave.

But still... there was a thought behind it. Or a powerful reflex.
Posted by: shibumi


That sounds like a strangely familiar tale to me...

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:09 PM (vcOmj)

274 It's not about America or Americans, or two warring sides that have contempt for each other. I'm tired of the implied moral equivalence. It's about the Left. The Left made the break, decided to take the path of contempt. They actually did a long time ago but Trump's presidency has forced it all to the surface.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 26, 2018 06:09 PM (H8QX8)

275
May you live in interesting times
May you get what you have coming to you
May the Prince know your name

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:09 PM (yQpMk)

276 So when do the Supremes rule on the Union Dues case?

Oh, and Fox is reporting that the owner of the Red Hen has resigned her position with Main St Lexington, and her business remains closed.

Woke and Broke.


Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (Gvnja)

277 BTH, thank you. Your response confirmed my leaning toward Everett. I was wavering between Lopez and Mitchell.

Posted by: Emmie at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (/A+Cl)

278

Don't fucking tell me I've been watching my country being "ceded"--I have been aware and fighting as best as possible for years.

FINALLY we have someone who can make a difference at the helm, you see evidence of that already.
Now you can see the pushback start. Yes, I'll bet there will be some shit go down but we got this in spite.

We're Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure. You've seen us fight through situations every bit as dire and prevail.

So when the dust settles after this latest, there we will be. Doesn't matter what we go through to get there, we win.

Because of who we are.

Never forget that.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (S/hVx)

279 If there is to be a civil war (nix that - revolution; CWs are for
rebels who lose) I see it unfolding in three phases from our POV.

1.) Conquer gov't forces in rural/small-town areas, solidify control there.
2.) Invade and and subjugate the urban areas.
3.) Win the peace - extirpate remaining enemies.
There can be no "two countries." Only a winner and a debellated loser, consigned to the wood chipper of history.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (AzW6q)

280 someone commenting at Althouse's blog wondered if the usual mob will now go after the 5 Sup Ct Justices who upheld Trump's travel ban EO.

Posted by: mallfly suPreme at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (KxbBq)

281
You know I have the distinct impression that the vocal 'resisting' leftists are a very visible minority promoted and highlighted by the MFM. And if you remove the mask -- the anonymity of the 'Net -- most of those would try to be civil. The Antifa, etc., contingent are soy boys and girls trying to be leftist superheroes.

Posted by: Sphynx at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (rXie1)

282 "Stop with the civil war battle shit.
Cold or soft civil war...fine. "

Tell it to the Left. And good luck with that.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 26, 2018 06:11 PM (H8QX8)

283 >>I think, when we look back on these years, the straw that broke the camel's back will be the trans issue.


Yeah - specifically that they wanted to reorganize our entire society to accommodate these sad, delusional people, and in doing so, forcing young girls into locker rooms with grown men who are naked, make women compete against men in sports (MMA being the worst), and the state compelling people's speech or facing fines, job loss, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2018 06:12 PM (W+vEI)

284 279. War to the knife. Knife to the hilt.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:12 PM (fA1SL)

285 Not yet. I want my pound of flesh first.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 26, 2018 06:06 PM (jWe5r)

Cut, jib, newsletter.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at June 26, 2018 06:12 PM (MX7xj)

286 I'll repost something I remember writing when we were on this topic a few weeks ago, about why a hypothetical California Secession would be so easy to deal with, with very low casualties. This model would apply to almost all of the blue areas, but California is the one that's been making the most noise, so:

Suppose, for this hypothetical, that California secedes and declares an intent to leave the Union, even though the people living outside of the major urban areas do NOT actually want this; how to effectively and quickly respond? Simple - stay away from the cities, and simply send in commando teams to disable the top 30 to 40 power plants in the state. Then take out key points in all of the long term electricity transmission lines and hold the spots, so that they cannot be repaired without our permission.

Then sit and wait. Imagine LA with no electrical power for 1 week - no cell phone charging, no communications systems, no food distribution, all economic activity grinding to a complete dead halt. Same for the San Fran area, same for Sacramento - every populated area would devolved into riots and total chaos in just a few days, and within two weeks those leader who could be found would be begging for forgiveness on any terms. The "war" would be over, just like that.

And of course they could be readmitted as a territory with no national voting rights for at least 10 years, just like happened the last time states tried to secede.

It really would not be very difficult, and would not take very long. You don't negotiate with rabid enemies, you crush them totally and so completely that they beg you for mercy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:12 PM (k1TUh)

287 And Maxine Waters knows what the underside of public transportation looks like.

Am I a bad person for absolutely loving all of this?


I don't care, do U?

Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:12 PM (Gvnja)

288 I'm in this camp.
Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 05:41 PM (+lOpA)

You'll be joining him in the camps because this isn't going to be peaceful.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at June 26, 2018 06:12 PM (J70i0)

289 I don't care, do U?


Nopes.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (+lOpA)

290 276
So when do the Supremes rule on the Union Dues case?


Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (Gvnja)

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Tomorrow by 10:00 am apparently. Its a big one.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (a0IVu)

291 Of course, he thought he was waving at a taxpayer.



I'm from MI.



He wasted the wave.



But still... there was a thought behind it. Or a powerful reflex.

Posted by: shibumi


--


That sounds like a strangely familiar tale to me...


Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America
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You live in Ohio, right?

I'm guessing you've had some sort of similar experience with your Happy Waving Governor.

From what I hear, Kasich is somewhat... IDK..., unbalanced, so I kind of expect that he spends much of his time randomly driving around the state, smiling and waving at people who are old enough to be voters.

Sort of like a demented Miss America winner.

Posted by: shibumi at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (AHNMM)

292 Just as an aside on the #WalkAway thing...

Ken Matthews was playing audio on his show today of a black woman from Maxine Waters' distract ranting about how Mad Maxine is a liar and sold out the black community in favor of Illegals...

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (9De+S)

293 281. I've maintained for a while that we could clear this whole thing up without racking up a count of much more than a few tens if thousands.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (fA1SL)

294 i also do not want a Caliphate and Mexican Invasion, do you? Cause that's what you will get. People, please think this through before stirring the pot. 

Sorry for typos.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 05:51 PM (1lhwM)

If I wanted war, I'd be doing my damnedest to make it happen. Wouldn't be terribly hard if I didn't mind dying. The sheer violence involved is also the main reason I'm increasingly trying to counsel restraint in action even as I prep.

But don't kid yourself. They want you dead, obviously, and happily employ their antifa goons and minority thuglets to attack you even as the derp state tries to break your back officially. They will bring in foreign armies including the UN, because they know talented fighting Americans want nothing to do with them.

You only need one belligerent for a war to start, and they know it only becomes harder to maintain control over time. If they wait until 2020, President Trump could do irreparable damage- and that's assuming he doesn't win easy re election.

They are running out of time, and they know it.

Posted by: trev006 at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (S6rSu)

295 Did not Bhuessein start this? Did not he tell tell his peeps to get physical? To get in their faces?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (JFO2v)

296 No wonder our country is screwed up if we can't navigate our way through all this without calling War. Great lesson for children and young adults.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel


Welcome to the Land of Internet Tough Guys.

I know there are many veterans that comment here, but I wonder how many were actually ever shot at?

I knew a young man (well, not so young anymore) that got shot at repeatedly in Iraq. It did not make him very happy. It made him want to be somewhere else, and not go back for another tour in Iraq (he did at least three tours).

And my old friend that was a Marine in Viet Nam, who did at least four combat tours. He knows it screwed him up for a while. He talks about it now, but it is scary talk to listen to. He did part of one tour at Khe Sanh in 1968.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (vcOmj)

297 224 202 The problem is the Federal Government has way too much power. A large part of it is unconstitutional.
Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)


Baziiiiiiinggggg. Trump is working on it.
Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:02 PM (+lOpA)


It would be nice if he had some help.

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (sdi6R)

298 In his book, The Spanish Civil War, Stanley Payne describes three factors he thought led to civil war.

1) As leftist utopia remains illusory, more and more radical policies are instituted in an attempt to immanentize the eschaton: check!

2) Crimes are scrupulously and severely enforced against the right but ignored when committed by the left: check!

3) Regardless of who wins elections, the leftist agenda is advanced: Hawaiian judge says, "Check!"

Eventually, there was just one murder too many and they were off to the races!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (4ruca)

299 Texas to Louisiana and north to Canada.
After we straighten out Kansas.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 05:56 PM (W4LFA)

I've been thinking about what our country would like and I wondered if we could peel off Western Canada. Not British Columbia, but Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, The Yukon Territory, and Northwest Territories. Western Canada is pretty conservative. Probably not as conservative as most of us, but could be worth looking into.

It would take a lot to get them, but then we have a contiguous country all the way to Alaska. This also gives us access to the Pacific.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (4ErVI)

300 Stop with the civil war battle shit.
Cold or soft civil war...fine. "

Tell it to the Left. And good luck with that.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 26, 2018 06:11 PM (H8QX

What a silly comment.

I'm talking to people on this board, not the Left.
Why would I talk to the left...they are the ones successfully gaslighting you all into war talk.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (1lhwM)

301 290 276
So when do the Supremes rule on the Union Dues case?


Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (Gvnja)

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Tomorrow by 10:00 am apparently. Its a big one.
Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (a0IVu)

At 10:05 I should be experiencing multiple orgasms if all goes well.

Posted by: ALH at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (Gvnja)

302 EM FIRST FOADDY FI!

Posted by: MaxScene Waters at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (sPO/s)

303 This is simple, really. Just start enforcing federal immigration law in California. Start jailing and prosecuting illegal aliens for Social Security fraud. Shut off all federal funding for institutions that will not defend free speech. Then, when California secedes, invade. Throw out the illegals, send the insurrectionists to Mexico, and declare the state a US territory under control of a provisional governor. Install Kurt Schlicter as said governor, and as the loonies come out of the woodwork to protest and loot, eject them from the country. Then, when New York secedes, wash rinse and repeat, except maybe with Sarah Palin as the provisional governor.

Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (f32MA)

304

Vote from the rooftops.
Garden from the streetlights.
War.

Posted by: Truth Hurts, Esq. at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (gMabG)

305 Meh, some of us have been at this for generations.

Welcome to the circus. When the government has burned down multiple structures of yours and the drunk Sherrif stands in your front yard pointing a firearm at your father let me know.

Let me tell you, fighting the leftist bastards isn't as fun as it sounds.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (UOcKN)

306 293 281. I've maintained for a while that we could clear this whole thing up without racking up a count of much more than a few tens if thousands.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (fA1SL)

Mostly, I just want to make sure I survive, because I keep feeling like I'm going to end up a necessary sacrifice or at least downed by friendly fire.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (9De+S)

307
Restore an ancient tradition, banishment. The is a constitutional
republic and if you want to destroy it you lose your America privilege.
You leave and never return on pain of death.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at June 26, 2018 05:42 PM (bML9A)


Turn them all into Philip Nolan.

Posted by: Bert G at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (yzxic)

308 "The county is toxic.'
..........


Sounds like my neighbor.

Posted by: wth at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (HgMAr)

309 Ken Matthews was playing audio on his show today of a black woman from
Maxine Waters' distract ranting about how Mad Maxine is a liar and sold
out the black community in favor of Illegals...
Yeah, sure. Let me know when they vote her out.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (O5Q3r)

310 A peaceful national divorce would require a ten year plan to implement. I'm ready to start my business as a relocation broker.

But I can understand the people who want to continue on our same path where we just slow down the opposition as long as possible. Because we aren't completely stopping them. Think of the significant social changes the last 60 years that will never be reversed.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (xx+WQ)

311 I've maintained for a while that we could clear this whole thing up without racking up a count of much more than a few tens if thousands.

Yeah, I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed...

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (yQpMk)

312 308 "The county is toxic.'
..........


Sounds like my neighbor.
Posted by: wth

word

Posted by: Rand Paul at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (FZYNt)

313 Thanks Obama!

Posted by: Bosk at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (fjMEv)

314 Did the Awans know what DWS passed on to Soros about the email investigation? Is that how they had her by the balls, or was it worse. Is that why she went apeshit about the laptop?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (wdmm9)

315 There are probably a few good what if or future history books in this civil war II

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (pHfeF)

316 311. That never gets old.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (fA1SL)

317 293 281. I've maintained for a while that we could clear this whole thing up without racking up a count of much more than a few tens if thousands.
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Yep. The left doesn't have the manpower to last. One bloody nose and they will quit.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (2LelM)

318 Did the Awans know what DWS passed on to Soros about the email
investigation? Is that how they had her by the balls, or was it worse.
Is that why she went apeshit about the laptop?
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This is a non-story.

Posted by: The MSM at June 26, 2018 06:17 PM (AHNMM)

319 So when the dust settles after this latest, there we will be. Doesn't matter what we go through to get there, we win.

Because of who we are.

Never forget that.


Posted by: irongrampa at June 26, 2018 06:10 PM (S/hVx)

{{{{{irongrampa}}}}}

Posted by: Miley, the High Duchess at June 26, 2018 06:17 PM (iTpm7)

320 "2) Crimes are scrupulously and severely enforced against the right but ignored when committed by the left: check! "

yeaarrrppp.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:17 PM (FOPyv)

321 I think the West Coast is already in a soft civil war. When you have trendy artists complaining about crime and filth, the stage is set. The government and the non-profit class enriches itself with the billions of tax dollars for programs, and the cities get worse and worse. They will not give up the money and power willingly.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4kdt4y

Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2018 06:17 PM (qlTN9)

322 I've maintained for a while that we could clear this whole thing up without racking up a count of much more than a few tens if thousands.

-
I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed!

- General Buck Turgidson

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:18 PM (4ruca)

323 How can you make a failed Coup d'etat worse? Follow it up with a civil war. Leftists are dumbest fuckers under heaven.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 06:18 PM (2LelM)

324 criticism You are idiot if you believe Trump can...
defensiveness Bill Clinton raped women but he didnt say pussy
contempt Trump voters are separating families
stonewalling Can we keep our docs? um um um yeah

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 26, 2018 06:18 PM (JFO2v)

325
Sort of like a demented Miss America winner.


Posted by: shibumi at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (AHNMM)

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In a couple years, the rules may change enough that he could become an ACTUAL Miss America winner.

Posted by: reason at June 26, 2018 06:18 PM (sPO/s)

326 you can have a first world democracy or an open border shithole. chose one.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:18 PM (FOPyv)

327 303 This is simple, really. Just start enforcing federal immigration law in California. Start jailing and prosecuting illegal aliens for Social Security fraud. Shut off all federal funding for institutions that will not defend free speech. Then, when California secedes, invade. Throw out the illegals, send the insurrectionists to Mexico, and declare the state a US territory under control of a provisional governor. Install Kurt Schlicter as said governor, and as the loonies come out of the woodwork to protest and loot, eject them from the country. Then, when New York secedes, wash rinse and repeat, except maybe with Sarah Palin as the provisional governor.

Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (f32MA)

Make Zombie the governor.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (4ErVI)

328 1 FUK U War!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 26, 2018 05:31 PM (YZSqu)

I fixed it

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (JFO2v)

329 Yep. The left doesn't have the manpower to last. One bloody nose and they will quit.

What about the bystanders who have their children killed? I could generate enough hate to power a battleship if that happened to me. At that point it;s not about ideology, it's about vengeance.

A civil war is very bad, very bad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (yQpMk)

330 Seventeen states and DC sue Trump Admin over "separating children at the border."

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (nILVB)

331

Did not Bhuessein start this? Did not he tell tell his peeps to get physical? To get in their faces?

Why, yes. Yes, he did.

He also told his psychophants to bring guns. And now his operative Mad Maxine is advocating all-out war against PDT's administration. Bring it on, bitch. You need to be made an example of by being arrested, convicted and sentenced for treason.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (HaL55)

332 Yep. The left doesn't have the manpower to last. One bloody nose and they will quit.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 06:16 PM (2LelM)

I'm pretty sure this is irony. Manpower they have: and quite a few are still loyal to BJ Clinton. Still more to Barack Hussein. I've met quite a few, and watched both men inspire that loyalty first hand.

Hillary has never inspired loyalty outside the shrikes and soyboys, and she knows it. I strongly believe that President Trump will bring about her end, while sparing Obama and her husband.

If the left does provoke a civil war then all bets are off.

Posted by: trev006 at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (S6rSu)

333 None of the proggies has the stomach for a civil war.

None of them has the training, either.

Not to worry.

Go read about the behavior of the federal government in the past. I believe a senator was caned on the senate floor, among other obnoxiousness. Nastiness in politics right now is relatively mild compared to earlier times.

But we always think we are the best or the worst of all time.

Et tu, Brute?

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (7UW64)

334 This public harassment of GOP/Trump officials/et al is getting interesting. It'll probably die out on its own soon anyway, but ...... WTF? Senate majority leader, top presidential adviser, DHS Sec., WH press sec., FL AG - publicly harassed? And some at their homes?!!


This is terra incognita, AFAIK.


I recall when some idiots did this to to bank executives in 2009 - and of the many jaw-dropping, utterly irresponsible, un-presidential, ugly bits of nonsense that Obama stained the country and office with, what he said then was one of the worst. "We're the only ones standing between them and the people with pitchforks" (from memory).*


Hard to believe the administration isn't taking action or planning to on this nonsense.


Then again, the ridiculous shut-down of an ICE office in Portland was allowed to go on for days. And, AFAIK - and this is SOP for this administration - the unbelievable refusal of Portland LE to immediately end the illegal actions has not been punished. So, who knows.


* note that the beautiful Wisconsin Ave. NW HQ of FNMA and the offices of the NYC branch of the Fed were not surrounded by mobs, even though these were the key institutions that allowed, and pushed, the things that led to the 2008 crash.



Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (QDnY+)

335 Damn Grump beat me to it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (4ruca)

336 California isn't a state anymore, it's occupied terrirory. The population has been supplanted by an imported replacement population and the folks who made it happen are just using that as their power base to tax the conquered.

Time to invade.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (FOPyv)

337 330 Seventeen states and DC sue Trump Admin over "separating children at the border."
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (nILVB)

Let's call him King Solomon!

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (ABjxW)

338 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:13 PM (vcOmj)


Yes, most people who have been to war, don't raise the idea blithely. To them it is last resort.

What problems do we have that cry out for bloodshed? None.

So I'll remind myself of what you said. Internet Tough Guys. It just makes me literally sick when I hear talk like this. To see the Resistance gaslighting the Normals. It is so short sighted. We should be laughing at the idea. Not buying into it. That gives the Left a ridiculous amount of power.

I can't even anymore...

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (1lhwM)

339 A civil war is very bad, very bad.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (yQpMk)



Yes. This idea....this is terrible idea.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (+lOpA)

340 They will not give up the money and power willingly.
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I doubt Tom Steyer could last three days of combat. Pretty sure Zuckerberg wouldn't even think of handling a nasty gun. Like I said, they've filled their fans full of fantasy they themselves don't have the balls to deliver.

Posted by: Gumby at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (2LelM)

341 Well just be aware - everyone is NOT going to stand outside and watch it all go down.

One side, at least, will find ready allies from across the seas and below the Rio Grande willing to provide comfort and aid.

There are at least 2 superpowers who'd like to be more super and what better way than feeding some Balkanization sammiches to what used to be the US.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (37IEG)

342 329. That's why the idea of traditional battles and arty and all that is right out. It'll be deffskwadz. And let's not kid ourselves - all sides have them.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (fA1SL)

343 321
I think the West Coast is already in a soft civil war. When you have
trendy artists complaining about crime and filth, the stage is set. The
government and the non-profit class enriches itself with the billions of
tax dollars for programs, and the cities get worse and worse. They will
not give up the money and power willingly.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4kdt4y


Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2018 06:17 PM (qlTN9)

no, we won't give up our money willingly, you are correct. plebes!

Posted by: Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison, Tim Cook, Bill Gates, Eric Schmidt at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (UsCnO)

344 A body count of a few tens of thousands.

That sounds like modern American war alright.

If you're not using a civil war to decisively defeat your enemy, what's the point? And that would require annhilating the populations of blue clusters.

What's the contrary idea? That you'll achieve separation and then happily go your own ways?

(I'm not into the whole civil war idea to begin with. But anything worth doing is worth doing right.)

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (lmPMy)

345 You guys remember the hilarious video of the antifa soy boys practicing their kung fu fighting skilz?


War? Lol.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (ptqGC)

346 Yep. The left doesn't have the manpower to last. One bloody nose and they will quit.
Posted by: Gumby


Oh, that sound so much like talk that took place early in 1861.

"We will show -fill in the blank-" (them-insert Yankees, Southerners, Secesh, Confederates, Abolitionists, dentists, public philatelists, anybody you want).

Kind of a dicey thing to crank up, and who knows where it ends?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (vcOmj)

347 If a Civil War is on, we're winning at the End of the Beginning.

National Divorce is a bad metaphor. THere's no way to split assets and go separate ways.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 26, 2018 06:22 PM (SVDwJ)

348 309 Ken Matthews was playing audio on his show today of a black woman from
Maxine Waters' distract ranting about how Mad Maxine is a liar and sold
out the black community in favor of Illegals...
Yeah, sure. Let me know when they vote her out.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (O5Q3r)

The $118 B spent on illegals annually comes right out of benefits black and poor would have received. duh!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 26, 2018 06:22 PM (JFO2v)

349
131 Y'all are welcome to come set up the United Horde of Peruvia right here in AK.

splitter!

Posted by: Peruvian Horde Front at June 26, 2018 06:22 PM (xGZ+b)

350 "while sparing Obama and her husband."
That phrase works in any context.

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at June 26, 2018 06:22 PM (UFgOG)

351 I believe a senator was caned on the senate floor,

-
Just before the Civil War.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:22 PM (4ruca)

352 338. Kinda hard to laugh at the idea when you're getting stomped by commies who walk because the jury won't convict. Kinda hard to laugh when they're shooting congressmen. Kinda hard to laugh when their mainstream party members openly agitate for physical violence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (fA1SL)

353 Here's an idea. Go eat at Red Hen Kitchen, then when they bring your entree, put on a Trump hat. Too late for them to spoil your food(don't get any refills).
See if you can get booted and the whole meal free.

Posted by: MikeN at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (o/eHL)

354 Yes. This idea....this is terrible idea.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (+lOpA)

--------
I agree. I also believe it is the likely outcome. These people wanted to achieve the totalitarian dream peacefully, and quickly. That went up in smoke two years. But he dream didn't. The dream never dies. If they can't have their way by the Gramscian means, they'll attempt to get it by Leninist ones.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (AzW6q)

355 Too bad we don't have a separation agreement. That way a National Divorce could be pretty painless. We would keep all the stuff and they would go somewhere far, far away. Not Uranus though. Somewhere worse.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (md3fh)

356 War? Lol.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (ptqGC)
I'm looking around my office and frankly the only man who will be of any use in a war is the only other conservative in the office. The rest are pretty much useless.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (a0IVu)

357 Oh, that sound so much like talk that took place early in 1861. 

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:21 PM (vcOmj)

The "hair mussed" comment shows where his head is at, and I agree with his assessment while having one of my own.

Posted by: trev006 at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (S6rSu)

358 In 2008, the United States of America was taken over by Marxists.

Call it what you will.

Posted by: Fritz at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (J7XgW)

359 The country will come together to rally around the effort to defeat a common foe.

Even though I already thought this had happened when Jeb! was defeated in the primaries.

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (ABjxW)

360 None of the proggies has the stomach for a civil war.


and a Southern man can whip ten Yankees. Honestly, all bets are off once the metal hits the meat.

Bad, very very bad.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (yQpMk)

361 I'm talking to people on this board, not the Left.
Why would I talk to the left...they are the ones successfully gaslighting you all into war talk. "

Okay, in reality our side is winning already. These court decisions this week have been massive and decisive, and I expect another massive and decisive one tomorrow, one which is going to cut the Democrat party funds in a way tht they haven't even conceived of yet. We are winning - now we are going to have to deal with the crying and kicking and screaming, and buckle up, yes they may get violent - but it will be disorgnized, mostly lone wolf stuff that we can handle, if we're smart about it. (No congressional baseball games without armed guards at every entrance!)

And we've got to dispose of he Mueller atrocity, and we've got to win this falls elections. BUT we are winning! And the other side is losing, and they are starting to realize it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (k1TUh)

362 What about the bystanders who have their children killed? I could generate enough hate to power a battleship if that happened to me. At that point it;s not about ideology, it's about vengeance.

A civil war is very bad, very bad.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June




which does not even take into account what external players would do.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (MTjB1)

363 I've said before that I knew we were on the path to civil war when Obama was elected in 2008.

I'm not trying to toot my own horn, but it was obvious to me. You can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed.

That's where we are now. The Commie half has been actively working with our enemies to undermine our nation, and refuse to accept the results of any election they don't win.

Now, on the one hand we have "Bake the cake or we will bankrupt you and put you out of business", and on the other hand we have "We don't serve your kind here". And the Left believes they have the moral high ground in both cases!

There is really nothing else to discuss at this point.

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (sdi6R)

364 Scott Adams talked about civil war today in his periscope.

He said there wouldn't be one.

He says b/c the republicans are the ones who are armed to the teeth and are also the adults in the room, (I'm paraphrasing) and don't want to fight, so therefore there won't be a fight. Period.

I wish I was that optimistic/delusional.

Posted by: squeakywheel at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (vB7kY)

365 Dear Lord. Steve Schmidt on MSLSD today: Today's SCOTUS ruling fulfilled Osama bin Laden's vision for America.

https://tinyurl.com/ycwd7u3z

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (ptqGC)

366 It will all be over by Christmas!

Posted by: Texian ette, Fate is a Foolish thing... at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (gou4q)

367 New rules!

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (5jVnA)

368 Go to Red Hen, then when you get your entree put on a Trump hat. If you get booted, you get a free meal courtesy of Meryl Streep's cousin. If not just don't leave a tip and instead leave a note that they were rude to Mrs Sanders.

Posted by: MikeN at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (o/eHL)

369 Seventeen states and DC sue Trump Admin over "separating children at the border."

Mass is one of them, of course. I think the only thing our carpet muncher AG knows how to do is sue Trump.

Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (O5Q3r)

370 EXCUSE ME bir PDT is way ahead on this one. He has the military backing and resources to control these twits... Mattis to the situation room STAT!

Posted by: sOME mORON at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (ICWiF)

371 A split is a very reasonable course of action.

Unfortunately there are those who will spew the ridiculous "the Civil War resolved this" argument, as if a military victory won 150 years ago stands as a permanent argument against secession in any circumstance.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (v7xEI)

372 Nobody will ever win a war on Twitter. Both sides are too fat and happy to actually have a real bloodletting type war.

Posted by: Roy at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (ABjxW)

373 Fearless prediction: If there is a National Divorce, and it's a peaceful one, rich libs will take great pains to stash many of their assets in Jesusland Red America, while living it up in Woke Blue America and blasting the Jesusland yokels for their "greed." I know a lot of high-ranking East German commies did something similar during the Cold War.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (R1mDg)

374

Turn the other cheek and the other cheek and the other cheek and the other cheek and the other cheek and the other cheek.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 26, 2018 06:25 PM (IqV8l)

375 It'll be more like the riots in the 60s. The big ones.

Major Democratic cities will burn. Insanity will play itself out.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (37IEG)

376 Has the Trump gotten over the feminine hysterics yet? It would be interesting to chart his outbursts and see if there is a pseudo-menstrual cycle occurring.

Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (2+qU5)

377 I in a wild dream see Leftifornia declare it is not going to follow any Federal regulations by the time Trump leaves office in 6 1/2 years.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (pHfeF)

378 Consider though that politics in the USA have often been brutally contentious and the even in the recent past, there was more violence than what we see today.

There was a brief period during the 80's-90's where the Democrats restrained their violence to the environment and world trade meetings. It wasn't nonexistent but the violence was at a low simmer.

Democrats are certainly ramping up with the only logical conclusion being death but lets not forget why their mascot is the Jackass. They have been acting like this for over a hundred years.

Posted by: wodun at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (lFga6)

379 360 None of the proggies has the stomach for a civil war.

and a Southern man can whip ten Yankees. Honestly, all bets are off once the metal hits the meat.

Bad, very very bad."

How many of the 20 somethings do you know? The ones that are hard working and industrious, the ones you can count on, are mostly all on our side already. The others lay around and smoke dope all day while they make they pathetic girlfriends go to the store and buy them food, while they watch CNN and bitch about it. I've seen it often.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (k1TUh)

380
I've been shot at, repeatedly. Didn't like it one bit. One of the reasons why, if you've ever read anything I posted about this issue is that I work for a political, peaceful resolution.

But know this, should the situation arise again, I'll do my best to negate the problem.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (S/hVx)

381 366 It will all be over by Christmas!
Posted by: Texian ette, Fate is a Foolish thing... at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (gou4q)


Home before the leaves fall!

Posted by: Everybody in August 1914 at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (sdi6R)

382
Maxine Waters' distract ranting about how Mad Maxine is a liar and sold out the black community in favor of Illegals... Yeah, sure. Let me know when they vote her out. Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM (O5Q3r)

Her district is 46% Hispanic

23% African American

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (10vO4)

383 I wish I was that optimistic/delusional.
Posted by: squeakywheel at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (vB7kY)

That works as long as we are armed. Notice one of the things the other side wants to do is disarm us while making sure every governmental agency is armed to the teeth.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 26, 2018 06:27 PM (GIHSy)

384 I wish I was that optimistic/delusional.

Posted by: squeakywheel at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (vB7kY)

Daily Wire has a piece, the sane majority (85%) values free speech over PC.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/20162/ poll-85-americans-think-free-speech-more-important-joseph-curl

We are not lost yet. There is a very vocal minority, which, the louder they shout, the more the middle turns to the sanity of Trump. Figure that.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at June 26, 2018 06:27 PM (5jVnA)

385 The caning of Chuckie Schumer.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 06:28 PM (xMnHK)

386 Her district is 46% Hispanic



23% African American



Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (10vO4)
And 100% low IQ.

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 06:28 PM (a0IVu)

387 If Hillary had won....this would be a different ball game.

We're up. I'm in favor of waiting instead of shooting.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:28 PM (37IEG)

388 I lived through the riots in Chicago and in fact my impression was that it was just a relatively few looters and firebugs who did the damage. Most of the black community were victims, as they always are. And it did not go across the streets that delineated the black neighborhoods.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:28 PM (md3fh)

389 202
The problem is the Federal Government has way too much power. A large part of it is unconstitutional.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 05:58 PM (UdKB7)
----------


This is 90% of the problem. The mueller/doj/etc circus is a fight for the, metaphorical, death of These United States.

Royals are taking it to the people, how far they are willing to go remains to be seen.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2018 06:28 PM (UGLi1)

390 303
This is simple, really. Just start enforcing federal immigration law in
California. Start jailing and prosecuting illegal aliens for Social
Security fraud. Shut off all federal funding for institutions that will
not defend free speech. Then, when California secedes, invade. Throw
out the illegals, send the insurrectionists to Mexico, and declare the
state a US territory under control of a provisional governor. Install
Kurt Schlicter as said governor, and as the loonies come out of the
woodwork to protest and loot, eject them from the country. Then, when
New York secedes, wash rinse and repeat, except maybe with Sarah Palin
as the provisional governor.

Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2018 06:14 PM (f32MA)

Cutting of the funding of corrupt governments will bring the BS front and center very quickly. I like this.

Cali is totally corrupt and out of hand now. It is a remnant of what it was even 30 years ago. SF is literally an open sewer. And no government official cares enough to do anything about it.

California = Failure.



Posted by: Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison, Tim Cook, Bill Gates, Eric Schmidt at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (UsCnO)

391 There is really nothing else to discuss at this point.
Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (sdi6R)

Sweetie, this is the AoSHQ.

There is ALWAYS something else to discuss.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (7UW64)

392 Once the left corrupted sports and all entertainment options it was all over.

There is literally no place to escape them.


The social compact has been torn apart.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (Fwpaq)

393 THEY COULD WIN AN ELECTION.

Why do they think they would win a war?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (fE9nD)

394 "And the news media, which promote shrieking outrage in pursuit of ratings and page views, are making the problem worse."

One problem I have with statements like this from Glenn (published in USA Today) and Levin, etc. is they act like they aren't part of the media. Well they are. So you can try to qualify that with "MSM" main-stream media, but really bloggers are getting more influential and MSM has lost a lot of it's power where it does have to react to the lower levels of internet and radio media.

So is "our" media really not part of the shrillness? Seems like when you are declaring a new civil war, you are part of the problem.

Yes the antifa type agitators are dangerous, but really how much of the left-voting section of the country is represented by that? Also the crack-down on religious freedom if it keeps progressing, could cause a showdown.

Posted by: goodluckduck at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (rwaEp)

395 off sock, dammit

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (UsCnO)

396 COULDN'T, DAMMIT!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (fE9nD)

397 Not a civil war, but a paradigm shift or major zeitge4st re- alignment. Fourth Turning stuff.

Posted by: kakisto at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (Mh0FI)

398 As I've been saying, the #Walkaway campaign is proof that the New Left has gotten too toxic even for *itself*. Sure, party abandonment happens all the time, but not like this, and not in these numbers.

The New Left doesn't want to admit it, but in their grand LARP of "righteousness", people who are not completely mentally unhinged can see where the lemmings are heading and decided they no longer wanted to be led off the cliff to Utopia.

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (yWWaf)

399 A street in Queens:

Smitty: Hey Trump! Fuck you!

Trump looks over and sees an old friend and yells: Hey Smitty! Up yours!

They both wave at each other and laugh.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (3HNOQ)

400

How does this reflect on the issue of busty asian prison lesbians? Maintain priorities!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (UFLLM)

401 385 The caning of Chuckie Schumer.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 06:28 PM (xMnHK)




It moved!

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (+lOpA)

402 I concur with Scott Adams. People on our side vastly overestimate our opposition. They are almost all pathetic losers who only can manage to feel a shred of self esteem when they pack themselves into a group. One firecracker on the ground while brandishing a bb gun would have 50 of them running as fast as the could, certain that they were all about to die.

They are not adults, they are angry children acting out, and like all children they are very easily frightened.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (k1TUh)

403 376 Has the Trump gotten over the feminine hysterics yet? It would be interesting to chart his outbursts and see if there is a pseudo-menstrual cycle occurring.
Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (2+qU5)


Bless your heart.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (7UW64)

404 Commies and progs violate the NAP. Never, ever forget that. They are, strictly speaking, fair game.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM (fA1SL)

405 Yeah missed it completely here at the HQ but the SCOTUS/judicial branch question is far more vexxing and serious than "civil war" fantasies. There is absolutely no doubt that the collapse of the rule of law in the judicial branch, and the related unraveling of the constitutional order, is real - and it's already happened, it's not speculation.


And yes, the 5-4 vote on the travel EO - and especially the "reasoning" behind the dissents, only confirms all this, in spectacular fashion.


Where is Ignoramus? When I was whining and screaming about repudiation, and the usurpation of the judicial branch having finally broken the last barrier (national security), he assured me the win at SCOTUS would be yuuuge (I think he did, anyway!). The sort that would represent a real rebuke to the usurpation.


5-4? On a ridiculous, obvious case like this? Unambiguous, uncontroversial, statutorily delegated plenary authority, obviously exercised properly (a f***king direct reaction to consensus intel community assessments that track with common sense).


Not losing one second of sleep about a "civil war". Waiting to be persuaded, however, that the republic is not gone.



Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:31 PM (QDnY+)

406 November will tell the tale if the Republicans increase their majorities. If they do, it will be by default but, it will tell us that the Entrumpening Horde is indeed awake.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:31 PM (yQpMk)

407 Just wondering, is a goodluckduck kind of like a goodluckrabbit? I had one of its' lucky feet on a keychain back in the day. No offense meant.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:31 PM (md3fh)

408 CBS News has it's panties all wadded up over the travel ban. Win win win

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (UdKB7)

409 382


Maxine Waters' distract ranting about how Mad Maxine is a liar and
sold out the black community in favor of Illegals... Yeah, sure. Let me
know when they vote her out. Posted by: tu3031 at June 26, 2018 06:15 PM
(O5Q3r)



Her district is 46% Hispanic



23% African American



Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (10vO4)

and 100% corrupt

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (UsCnO)

410 >>>376
Has the Trump gotten over the feminine hysterics yet? It would be
interesting to chart his outbursts and see if there is a
pseudo-menstrual cycle occurring.<<<

Misogynistic mumbo-jumbo, trying to attack a man with anti-woman rhetoric. Weak, very weak.

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (BqR2k)

411 Not losing one second of sleep about a "civil war". Waiting to be persuaded, however, that the republic is not gone.



Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:31 PM (QDnY+)

Well, consider it stepped out for a long smoke break. But a civil war sure as shit isn't going to bring it back.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (37IEG)

412 Invited to niece's wedding this weekend. Wife and her daughters are as far left as "they" say we are right. They HATE Trump.

No church. Ultra-lib. They're with Her.

Decided early on we should go. Golfboy is driving 3 hours.

Having second thoughts. Afraid of what may happen.


Posted by: golfman at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (If3tB)

413 I in a wild dream see Leftifornia declare it is not going to follow any Federal regulations by the time Trump leaves office in 6 1/2 years.

Posted by: Skip


Trump is triumphing in the courts and at the ballot box. Before he leaves office he shall have eliminated so much FedFunding to big cities that the Dimis will be no more.

It will be the Nationalist party and the Republican party.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (UGLi1)

414 A friend just received 500 rounds of 5.56 M855 green tips. I am envious.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (r9UYA)

415 So it's settled, everyone is just an Internet tough guy and physically pushing back at anytime is just silly. Just accept covert government coups, abortion on demand, SC sanctioned gay marriage , SJW military, sanctuary states, legalized drugs, socialized medicine and government elimination of God to name just a few things. I realize there is never going to be a hill so I'll just live as best I can while watching the changes. I will though also continue to pray that the impossible can happen.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (xx+WQ)

416 Commies and progs violate the NAP. Never, ever forget that. They are, strictly speaking, fair game.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine


What should happen is local law enforcement applying assault and battery against people harrassing people in public, or on their private property. Or calling demonstrations on private property a riot and arresting them all. Did they have a permit to assemble on private property?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (vcOmj)

417 So is "our" media really not part of the shrillness? Seems like when you are declaring a new civil war, you are part of the problem.


Touche.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (yQpMk)

418 "There is ALWAYS something else to discuss"

does anyone know where I can pickup some copper tipped crossbow bolts?

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (UdKB7)

419 391 There is really nothing else to discuss at this point.
Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:24 PM (sdi6R)

Sweetie, this is the AoSHQ.

There is ALWAYS something else to discuss.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:29 PM (7UW64)


Well yes, here. I meant between the normals and the progs.

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (sdi6R)

420 352 338. Kinda hard to laugh at the idea when you're getting stomped by commies who walk because the jury won't convict. Kinda hard to laugh when they're shooting congressmen. Kinda hard to laugh when their mainstream party members openly agitate for physical violence.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (fA1SL)

The Demoncrats are mask-off, out-of-the-bag, the Party of "Antifa" now.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (9De+S)

421 338. Kinda hard to laugh at the idea when you're getting stomped by commies who walk because the jury won't convict. Kinda hard to laugh when they're shooting congressmen. Kinda hard to laugh when their mainstream party members openly agitate for physical violence.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:23 PM (fA1SL)



I do not laugh at those things. Maybe my word choice could have been better. Scoff at the idea of a civil war. Scoff at these idiots that think their rantings are worthy of bloodshed, when we have the best processes in the world to resolve this shit.

Scoff at the idea, bcz we have the best President in years getting stuff done and is gonna build a wall, and we are not gonna fvck that up by going to war. And end it all. War will guarantee an open border with Mexico. And more congressmen shot. The rule of law will unravel.

War will lead to worse things, not better.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (1lhwM)

422
Mitch McConnell's wife wasn't taking any shit from protestors today

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (10vO4)

423 It will be iPhones at dawn, and may the best soyboy win.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (md3fh)

424 Tablet is almost done and needs recharging.So it's tie myself to the wall or get out on a most beautiful evening and get to the end of the book.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (pHfeF)

425
Just ending public financing of education would do wonders.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (r+sAi)

426 Commies and progs violate the NAP. Never, ever forget that. They are, strictly speaking, fair game.

What is the NAP?

Posted by: LGoPs at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (4ftY2)

427 Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (2+qU5)

Like herpes, this one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Macho Business Donkey Wrestler at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (xPJvm)

428 Misogynistic mumbo-jumbo, trying to attack a man with anti-woman rhetoric. Weak, very weak.
Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 06:32 PM (BqR2k)

Well, you know how hysterical we all get, around that time of the month. Women are completely incapable of behaving in a calm rational manner in every case. You know that. You just do, doncha?

Yeah.

Sure.

Fuck off, Jaime.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (7UW64)

429 376
Has the Trump gotten over the feminine hysterics yet? It would be
interesting to chart his outbursts and see if there is a
pseudo-menstrual cycle occurring.

Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (2+qU5)

English, please.

Posted by: dagny at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (nRWPy)

430 376 Has the Trump gotten over the feminine hysterics yet? It would be interesting to chart his outbursts and see if there is a pseudo-menstrual cycle occurring.
Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (2+qU5)

Maybe women on their periods should just stay home, huh Bob? Next thing you know menstruating women will be working right along side you and all.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 26, 2018 06:34 PM (JFO2v)

431 Recent polling shows the nation is not split 50-50. 75% agree with TGE on immigration, same number know there's a DS. Normies are fleeing the demunists.

Posted by: kallisto at June 26, 2018 06:35 PM (Mh0FI)

432 Not losing one second of sleep about a "civil war". Waiting to be persuaded, however, that the republic is not gone.



Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:31 PM (QDnY+)

Well, consider it stepped out for a long smoke break. But a civil war sure as shit isn't going to bring it back.
Posted by: Damnedyankee


Nothing lasts forever. Hell, the freedoms we had when I was a kid are gone forever and nothing is bringing them back.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 06:35 PM (FxM6p)

433 Did they have a permit to assemble on private property?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (vcOmj)

Sheeeitttt - don't need no permit for that!Kid's lemonade stand though? hell yeah, and an inspection from the health department too.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:35 PM (37IEG)

434 This is a result of 100 years of liberal indoctrination in this country of those people with weak minds.

Posted by: Archer at June 26, 2018 06:35 PM (gmo/4)

435 Something we forget today about why the previous American Civil War was so deadly, and why the South was certain at the beginning that they were going to win: Over half of the active duty officers in the American Army at the time resigned their posts and joined the Confederacy, as did almost the same number of regular soldiers. (Army number of enlisted men at the outset were small, and both sides quickly swelled with volunteers) The entire Confederate military leadership was made up of well respected West Pointers.

So, each side started off with about half of the former American Army - that's who was doing the fighting.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:35 PM (k1TUh)

436 Not losing one second of sleep about a "civil war". Waiting to be persuaded, however, that the republic is not gone.


Posted by: rhomboid

Now this is a different kind of statement. I don't know if Civil War is in any ways imminent, but I do think that the Republic is largely dead.
We live in an interregnum period, where either we have a restoration or something different arises.

But the Old Republic is dead.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:36 PM (vcOmj)

437 This is not a case of militias and shoot when you see the whites of their eyes.

How long do these proggy fronts last when dear leader fails to show up?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 26, 2018 06:36 PM (pDKiD)

438 P.S. I have never been shot at, but have been shot over.Was reasonably confident no one was going to shoot low crossing a skeet range.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 06:36 PM (pHfeF)

439 There won't be any split, because who's going to pull up stakes?

People with a lot of nothing. That's who.

Anyone with a life and possessions they worked for won't.

This won't be India and Pakistan.

Civil War will mean Death Squads and assassinations more or less. Tit for tat until everyone gets sick of it - and then martial law gets called. And do we win that phase- cuz that's the winning phase. Who knows?

It's a stupid idea.

Violence is not the solution.

Right now, this can all stop over night if the police and DAs and FBI and DOJ all do their jobs like professionals for all of their countrymen.

Right now, those people are choosing not to honor their oaths or profession.

A couple of more Las Vegas massacres or similar horrors and violence will cut lose-

How in the world can anyone think this will end well?

anyone in this country can be assassinated by anyone who hunts deer on a regular basis, really.

The left and Democrats are playing with fire and need to stop now.

Any those cops, firemen, FBI agents, DAs, CIA agents, etc etc etc who don't want to do their jobs properly for all of their fellow citizens need to be fired and their pensions pulled.

Again, all of this can stop over night.

Oh, yeah, and we need to reopen the asylums cuz a lot of this leftist violence is due to the exploitation of mentally ill losers by the leaders of the left.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 26, 2018 06:36 PM (ZSkht)

440 421. I agree. But it doesn't change THEIR behavior. These people are violent communist revolutionaries enjoying support - financial, logistical, and legal - from the apparatus of the State. This is noy a bunch of LARPers. This is what the run-up to brutal internecine violence looks like. I don't want a war. But I will not be a slave.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:36 PM (fA1SL)

441 376" Has the Trump gotten over the feminine hysterics yet? It would be
interesting to chart his outbursts and see if there is a
pseudo-menstrual cycle occurring.
"

Allahpundit! Long time, no see!

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (UFgOG)

442 My expertise in how women think, feel, and speak is derived from rigorous empirical experiments involving my anus and a speculum.

Posted by: Nurse Krang at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (lmPMy)

443 Lady wid the nose ring on CBS news says illegal immys are fleeing "domestic abuse".

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (UdKB7)

444 Asking the important questions...

What will you call your "post civil-war" bar?

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (iiixZ)

445 339 A civil war is very bad, very bad.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:19 PM (yQpMk)


Yes. This idea....this is terrible idea.
Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:20 PM (+lOpA)

==================

While I agree, recent history has taught the folly of ignoring an enemy who has already declared war on you. If no steps are taken to reign in the lawless actions of the criminally insane demagogues on the Left, the decision will be taken out of our hands. My earlier post was only somewhat in jest-- it's better to fight a war at a time and place of our own choosing.

The left in America has lost it's collective mind. They respect no authority other than their own, and they hold conflicting bits of cobbled together nonsense as sacred truth. Their leaders spout blatant lies with the ease of long practice, and their foot soldiers believe they will have their Utopia once they are rid of us. This insanity will continue to escalate until it is stopped.

Posted by: cornbred at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (f32MA)

446 I am not worried about a hot civil war. The Blue State National Guards are not ready to defend themselves.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (3HNOQ)

447 >>Seventeen states and DC sue Trump Admin over "separating children at the border."


Please tell me they aren't angling to have someone on the 9th Circuit court overrule Trump's immigration policy.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (W+vEI)

448 Never forget that the ANTIFA and Bernie Bro goons were already attacking Republicans during the primaries.

Even before Trump they were attacking ANY opposition as 'illegitimate'.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (N5dam)

449 It drives me nuts how many people I've encountered who aren't on board with any of the far-left Bullshit, but still vote Democrat anyway because "Rich People". Even when I point out how many Billionaires are Left-Wing, they just blink and stare at me like I just blue-screened their Windows Installation.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (9De+S)

450 First the split and then the war

Posted by: The Tumor at June 26, 2018 06:38 PM (P4JM8)

451 So is "our" media really not part of the shrillness? Seems like when you are declaring a new civil war, you are part of the problem.



They are the main drivers of it. The wood is chopped and they've tons of tinder, but all the matches blow out before the fire gets underway.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:38 PM (1lhwM)

452 The internet tough guy ain't got nuthin' on the internet doctor. This is me prescribing medicine to you, bitches.

I'll have you on video in the morning.

Posted by: Dr. Fritz at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (J7XgW)

453 'who's going to pull up stakes? '

Well I would. At one time I lived in a shithole called Atlanta.

Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (UdKB7)

454 >>Lady wid the nose ring on CBS news says illegal immys are fleeing "domestic abuse".



Yeah, that does not make you a refugee.

Flee to a friend or family member's house, OK?
We are not the word's safe house for domestic disputes.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (W+vEI)

455
Seventeen states and DC sue Trump Admin over "separating children at the border."

On what grounds? What's the damages to the state?

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (10vO4)

456 422
Mitch McConnell's wife wasn't taking any shit from protestors today
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (10vO4)

"You been heah fo houah, you go now"?

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (9De+S)

457 >> Dr Bob Krang

Who is this? Is this a troll or what? An incel?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (8O3HH)

458 Been saying this for 2 years now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (Ydx5u)

459 That Democratic congressional intern that verbally assaulted the president got a week's vacation, which of course is just waving the green flag for the inevitable physical assault.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (ppaKI)

460 "What a silly comment."

It was figurative, and too flip. So sorry about that. I intended to underline the cause of the problem. That is, what we want is immaterial. The Left doesn't wish to co-exist with us. It's not gaslighting.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (H8QX8)

461 We get it 'Dr Krang', you find ladyplumbing scary and gross. This is something you should bring up with your shrink, not here.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (6FqZa)

462 Look half the problem here is the leftist's think the enforcers of all their wet dream fascist fantasies are on their side.
And at the top of the enforcer pyramid that may be so at the moment - FBI, IRS, etc.

But once both groups see that the base of their power structure isn't where they thought it was they'll realize it's time to STFU and STFD.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (37IEG)

463 I dont think the SCOTUS decision on SCOTUS (assuming it allows people to not pay dues)
will have a drastic immediate effect in real terms.

Majority of union members already devoted lefty Kool-Aid drinkers

but it will plant a ticking time bomb so that hard working people on the right will no longer be required to support the Dem-Union machine

Posted by: McCool at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (KvRqW)

464 426. NAP = Non-Aggression Principle. The maxim that force or threat of force is only proper in response to aggression from another. It is what keeps the peace in a free nation.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (fA1SL)

465 ...nd yes, the 5-4 vote on the travel EO - and
especially the "reasoning" behind the dissents, only confirms all this,
in spectacular fashion...




5-4? On a ridiculous, obvious case like this?
Unambiguous, uncontroversial, statutorily delegated plenary authority,
obviously exercised properly (a f***king direct reaction to consensus
intel community assessments that track with common sense)...





Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:31 PM (QDnY+)


Couldn't agree more. Everybody talking about what a 'great win this is' is missing the point. We've just spent a year and a half spinning our wheels only to reaffirm that the President has the absolute right to make these decisions. Not fucking judges in Hawaii, for crying out loud! Because they might lose tourists?? From Yemen???!!!


This shouldn't even have been up for discussion. The Republic is lost I'm afraid. We're just going through the motions.

Posted by: LGoPs at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (4ftY2)

466 Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (2+qU5)

Glad you got a long break between shifts for Soros Co. Still on the same silly theme, I see?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (O5K3f)

467 Seventeen states and DC sue Trump Admin over "separating children at the border."

On what grounds? What's the damages to the state?
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (10vO4)

Yeah. Let's go there.

Posted by: golfman at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (If3tB)

468 I shall have the finest and largest ear necklaces in CW 2.0.

Posted by: Under Fire at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (r9UYA)

469 Syrian who attacked Israeli Arab in Berlin gets off easy
Adam Armush, an Arab-Israeli, strolled Berlin's streets wearing a kippah to see if it was indeed dangerous for Jews, he was assaulted by a Syrian migrant, who in turn was sentenced to only a month in jail; Jewish community condemns sentence as 'a joke.'

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (Ydx5u)

470 Please tell me they aren't angling to have someone on the 9th Circuit court overrule Trump's immigration policy.
Posted by: Lizzy

Sounds like.....LAWFARE!!!!

Yeah, getting some stupid cite at the 9th Circuit, only to be over ruled by the Supremes in a year or two.

Madness. Maxine Madness.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (vcOmj)

471 I rather like the idea of a government afraid of the citizenry. And I also like the idea of radical Marxist powergrabbers having that same fear.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (++G28)

472 "So, each side started off with about half of the former American Army - that's who was doing the fighting."

Not only that, but the state governments and federal representatives were involved in the idea as well.

Posted by: goodluckduck at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (rwaEp)

473

Identify your local scum.

Harass them, humiliate them, inconvenience them, disgust them, cost them, shun them.

Drive them out from you to their safe space enclaves of filth. Drive them from your businesses, your schools, your public spaces.

Drive them into ever more narrow confined echo chambers of their own psychopathy and disease.

Protest their every waking moment and deny them sleep, respite or a moments sanity. Make them fear what they will find on their doorstep every morning. Make them dread the bumper-stickers you put in every restroom in every building the work and play at. Make them loathe every time they must leave the house.

Most are weak pathetic creatures and will crumble under the pressure, the humiliation, the shear endless burden of inconvenience they must slog through.

They do not have the fiber to truly suffer for their beliefs. Bring the Pain.



Posted by: Truth Hurts, Esq. at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (gMabG)

474 All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (yQpMk)

475 474
All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (yQpMk)

Not me, I have my own bridge.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (37IEG)

476 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (6FqZa)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (O5K3f)

477 There is absolutely no doubt that the collapse of the rule of law in the
judicial branch, and the related unraveling of the constitutional
order, is real - and it's already happened, it's not speculation.


And
yes, the 5-4 vote on the travel EO - and especially the "reasoning"
behind the dissents, only confirms all this, in spectacular fashion.===========
Agreed, rhomboid, the real issue is that the complete failure of the basic rule of law for the Leftie SC judges. A basic read of Article 2 is all one needs to slam dunk this from a legal standpoint. This is a 9-0 decision.

And this, combined with the Leftie press and the insane Dems and Antifa, means there is a general collapse of the law. The Left doesn't care the Mueller "investigation" is just a scam, set up by Democrats in power and the leaders of the Premier US Law Enforcement Agency. The corrupt FBI. When the "rank and file" FBI refuse to jail their corrupt superiors, they are just as guilty. Hey, "rank and file", prove me wrong! Dare you!


Many are simple traitors. Yet nobody cares. And they make up nonsense crap like illegals getting separated from their fake daddies at the border.

The only question I have remaining is Sodomayor a traitor, or just really, really stupid?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (UsCnO)

478 Black men had been more disposed to Trump, now they are seeing their sons and nephews secure meaningful employment. Kanye came out with his Freethinker meme and suffered NO blowback when his latest record dropped.

Posted by: kallisto at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (Mh0FI)

479 449 It drives me nuts how many people I've encountered who aren't on board with any of the far-left Bullshit, but still vote Democrat anyway because "Rich People". Even when I point out how many Billionaires are Left-Wing, they just blink and stare at me like I just blue-screened their Windows Installation.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (9De+S)

Millionaires and Billionaires is total fukn bullshit. The top tax rate starts at 500k or 600k for couples.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (JFO2v)

480 377 I in a wild dream see Leftifornia declare it is not going to follow any Federal regulations by the time Trump leaves office in 6 1/2 years.

Posted by: Skip at June 26, 2018 06:26 PM (pHfeF)

I also have a dream and in it the skies darken with cruise missiles headed west.

I'm kidding.

The Left and violence I think it's happening no matter what happens in November. Either it's because they get BTFO and can't accept it or they win and think that gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (4ErVI)

481 but it will plant a ticking time bomb so that hard working people on the right will no longer be required to support the Dem-Union machine

Posted by: McCool at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (KvRqW)

And I think there are more out there than most think.

Posted by: golfman at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (If3tB)

482 All trolls are Average Joe.
Posted by: Grump928


And, we all know what Average Joe does by choice.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (vcOmj)

483 How can a state or DC have standing to sue over illegal immigrant crap?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (xMnHK)

484 Lady wid the nose ring on CBS news says illegal immys are fleeing "domestic abuse".
=====

So did Tina Turner and she didn't have to sneak into a foreign country to do it.

What's her fucking point?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (nILVB)

485 " The entire Confederate military leadership was made up of well respected West Pointers. "

But they were led by General Lee, though while the next statement may appear to be blasphemy to many, General Lee was an absolutely terrible general.

There was no time when he acted as if he was actually in a battle for survival, it seemed to be that this was a friendly game of high stakes poker played among true gentlemen.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (lD3vL)

486 I have a guess as to what Average Joe doesn't do by choice.

Posted by: cunnilingus at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (6FqZa)

487 The only question I have remaining is Sodomayor a traitor, or just really, really stupid?



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:42 PM (UsCnO)

She can be both!

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (5jVnA)

488 If you desire peace, prepare for war. We are prepared with the lion's share of the guns, knowledge and resolve. They are not, so we shall have peace despite the leftist meltdowns. The worst of the lunatics will be taken away to institutions for the mentally depraved or voted out of office whichever is appropriate and life shall go on. At least one can hope.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (md3fh)

489 As AtC pointed out this morn, the real gem in the travel ban decision was Thomas telling the lower courts to straighten up, or else.

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (BqR2k)

490 Never forget that the ANTIFA and Bernie Bro goons were already attacking Republicans during the primaries.

Even before Trump they were attacking ANY opposition as 'illegitimate'.
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 26, 2018 06:37 PM (N5dam)


That's the Soros arm adopted over here. The police are supposed to arrest them.

This is all about agitating a war. Divided we fall. If "they" The Resistance Complex, Soros, EU can divide us, they win and get power back.

We currently have the power, we have some messes to clean up and all of us should be doing our own part, but if we war, I mean a real civil war, we have lost. Everything.

We are being gaslighted.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (1lhwM)

491

Maybe women on their periods should just stay home, huh Bob? Next thing you know menstruating women will be working right along side you and all.

He's afraid of that because he knows his cycle will align with theirs instantly.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (HaL55)

492 Well, Lee was trying to win in a gentlemanly way because he was a gentleman.
He just wanted to show they should be left the hell alone.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (37IEG)

493
Now that Trump has the SCOTUS decision, he just needs to add Mexico to the list. And the Scandis of course.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (r+sAi)

494 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (O5K3f)

Trump feminine nature provides sufficient material for a doctoral thesis, even based solely on publicly available material. Submission of feminine Trump to questions would likely yield classification of new disorder.

Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (2+qU5)

495 453 'who's going to pull up stakes? '

Well I would. At one time I lived in a shithole called Atlanta.
Posted by: f'd at June 26, 2018 06:39 PM (UdKB7)

I lived in Madison, WI, and near it, for 24 years.

I escaped intact.

It can and should be done.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (7UW64)

496 A street in Queens:

Smitty: Hey Trump! Fuck you!

Trump looks over and sees an old friend and yells: Hey Smitty! Up yours!

They both wave at each other and laugh.
Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM

Get muh smellin' salts. Ah feel faint. How rude!

Posted by: Polite Southerner at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (2NqXo)

497 Posted by: Truth Hurts, Esq. at June 26, 2018 06:41 PM (gMabG)

I don't" have" any local scum. That is, there are leftists around here, but the people somewhat to the left of me are my friends. They might not like Trump, but all of my friends are church people. They aren't going to be plotting civil war. They haven't made leftism their religion. They just vote Democrat

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (O5K3f)

498 Some left wing Judge will rule the travel ban illegal on another reason...doesn't matter about the law...Resist they must

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (Ydx5u)

499 I work for the Scandis.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (xMnHK)

500 Ah, Colonel Angus!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (yQpMk)

501 Please, don't respond to the trolls. Just click the 'ignore' button next to their profile in your member preferences screen and you won't have to see them, they'll just yammer into the void.

Posted by: hogmartin at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (fZuhk)

502

Super sad conclusion.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (fceHP)

503 sadly for all americans the progressives coup attempt. has made the idea , 'we always have an next elections and only have to wait that long to 'hope' for 'change'

they'v now screwed that thought.

Posted by: willow at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (dPd5y)

504 23
I say we stick together as a nation and ram our policies down their fucking throats.


Posted by: Dr Spank at June 26, 2018 05:35 PM (4e+hS)

Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (9dzlp)

505 Well get to written Bob - you're a doctor.

Posted by: Damnedyankee at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (37IEG)

506 "On what grounds? What's the damages to the state?"

Fine, then let us sue the states for making my taxes so damned high because we have to feed, medicate, educate, clothe, house, entertain and fluff pillows for millions of greedy, selfish illegal aliens.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (lD3vL)

507 Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (2+qU5)

Either you're a sock or you have the malady Bolder Hobo identified in an earlier post.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (O5K3f)

508 Citing Stanley Payne's The Spanish War again, he says the war started when Franco and his allies decided that it was safer to do something than to do nothing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (4ruca)

509 Posted by: willow at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (dPd5y)

Holy crap, when did we get willow back? Stop evaporating, you!

Posted by: hogmartin at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (fZuhk)

510 I dont think the SCOTUS decision on SCOTUS (assuming it allows people to not pay dues)
will have a drastic immediate effect in real terms.

Majority of union members already devoted lefty Kool-Aid drinkers

but it will plant a ticking time bomb so that hard working people on the right will no longer be required to support the Dem-Union machine

Posted by: McCool

_________

If it goes our way, I think you will see a massive shift in political alignments.

The big thing will be once union dues can't be forced, union leadership actually has to listen to their members or they will get cut off

Most due paying union members aren't interested in political activism, they want issues addressed that directly effect them.

For instance, the unions backed ObamaCare despite the fact it taxed Union health benefits. Because union leadership has just become an extension of the Democrat party.

Posted by: Pede at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (uc45P)

511 I'm on my lunch break. Coworkers have pizza with chicken and pineapple.


That's just wrong.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (lKs2v)

512 5-4? On a ridiculous, obvious case like this? Unambiguous, uncontroversial, statutorily delegated plenary authority, obviously exercised properly (a f***king direct reaction to consensus intel community assessments that track with common sense). "

Rhomboid, to repeat something when this very thing was discussed earlier today - I mean no offense, but have you been paying attention to the Court for the last 20 years? There are 4 Liberal Constitution-hating ideologues on the Court - Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayer, and Kagan. It is NOT hyperbole to say that they would gladly toss every piece of the Constitution out if it would advance their ideology, they will ALWAYS vote against Trump on ANYTHING, no matter what.

The reality is that after Obama, the BEST we could possibly hope for from this Court was 5-4 decisions. THAT is why 2016 was the Flight 93 Election, THAT is why it was so crucially important that Trump won, THAT is what they Never Trumpers cannot grasp and why there have been so woefully and completely wrong - we were only 1 vote away from Losing our Constitution completely.

I am NOT kidding, I am NOT exaggerating - that is how close we came to the true death of this country - 1 vote away. That's the reality we have been living for many years now.

You seem to be surprised at how deeply evil and destructive to the core that the liberals are, and this includes Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayer, and Kagan. Do not be surprised - all 4 of them hate this country, and want to see what it is today permanently destroyed. That is who they are. That is why we should fall on our knees and praise God that we got out of this with a 5-4 win.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (k1TUh)

513 423
It will be iPhones at dawn, and may the best soyboy win.


Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:33 PM (md3fh)

I don't have an iPhone. I have a Ruger.

I win.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (UsCnO)

514 Trump feminine nature provides sufficient material for a doctoral thesis, even based solely on publicly available material. Submission of feminine Trump to questions would likely yield classification of new disorder.
Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (2+qU5)

Ooooh, I can't wait!

Do, please, enlighten us on the definition of "feminine nature."

Please do.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (7UW64)

515 Split it up or wage a war of annahilation. One side must crush the other in a most brutal fashion. Are leftards up to that? They are crying babies. I dont think they are up to getting their throats cut

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (4dbPD)

516 Boy for a feminine guy, Trump sure has one hell of a beard in Melania.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (md3fh)

517 The only question I have remaining is Sodomayor a traitor, or just really, really stupid?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg


Embrace the power of "and".

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (vcOmj)

518 I don't" have" any local scum. That is, there are leftists around here, but the people somewhat to the left of me are my friends. They might not like Trump, but all of my friends are church people. They aren't going to be plotting civil war. They haven't made leftism their religion. They just vote Democrat
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (O5K3f)

That's easy for you, Fen. What if you lived in DC and they wouldn't let you enjoy a nice dinner out?

Posted by: golfman at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (If3tB)

519 494
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:40 PM (O5K3f)



Trump feminine nature provides sufficient material for a doctoral
thesis, even based solely on publicly available material. Submission of
feminine Trump to questions would likely yield classification of new
disorder.

Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (2+qU5)


Not the Krang! The Klang!!

Posted by: The Claw at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (9dzlp)

520 509
Posted by: willow at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (dPd5y)



Holy crap, when did we get willow back? Stop evaporating, you!

Posted by: hogmartin at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (fZuhk)

Hear. Hear.

A day without willow is like a day without new threads.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (5jVnA)

521 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (O5K3f)

Logical fallacy. You must do better.

Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (2+qU5)

522 497 I don't" have" any local scum. That is, there are leftists around here, but the people somewhat to the left of me are my friends. They might not like Trump, but all of my friends are church people. They aren't going to be plotting civil war. They haven't made leftism their religion. They just vote Democrat
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (O5K3f)

I know you'd like to think otherwise, but you're not even remotely in the majority, as far as that goes.

I have a harpy where I work who has already said she'd kill her own adult son right now if that's what it took to get unlimited taxpayer-funded abortion on demand.

Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (9De+S)

523 They aren't going to be plotting civil war. They haven't made leftism their religion. They just vote Democrat

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (O5K3f)
I have some of those but also a lot of the 'I can't stand republicans', 'I am allergic to republicans', 'we don't want them in California' friends. (I use the term friends loosely here).

Posted by: IC at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (a0IVu)

524 Is "Dr. Bob Krang" the new Mary Cloggenstein?

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)

525 War. Only to preserve the Union as a Constitutional Republic, sovereign among nations and unafraid of true Freedom. From Sea to shining Sea, contemptuous of liars, layabouts, lackeys and any notion of hereditary betters. War. If they mean to have it, let it begin here.

Posted by: IncreasinglyCynicalErikInTexas at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (8N2JI)

526 hiya hogmartin, uh hmm, I wandered back in after the left feeling froggy kinda making me notice politics this weekend.

fkrs

Posted by: willow at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (dPd5y)

527 Can your Ruger dial up Siri and ask her questions? No? Anyway, who said you had the choice of weapons?

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (md3fh)

528 It drives me nuts how many people I've encountered who aren't on board with any of the far-left Bullshit, but still vote Democrat anyway because "Rich People". Even when I point out how many Billionaires are Left-Wing, they just blink and stare at me like I just blue-screened their Windows Installation.

Posted by: Hikaru


This isn't a war of ideals it's a war for control.
The Royals, your betters, don't like the way you smell. Ask Harry Reid.

This is a class war.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (UGLi1)

529 Willow's here???


I'll go look for the nood then.

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (+lOpA)

530 NOOD

Posted by: eleven at June 26, 2018 06:49 PM (+lOpA)

531 They just vote Democrat
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (O5K3f)

I have a couple who I would term "offensive." They constantly virtue signal. My personal fave was when one of them was crowing about "marching for science."

I asked her what she accomplished by doing so.

Nothing but a nasty, empty glare in response.

I try to be kind, but every so often, it helps to keep their excesses in check.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:49 PM (7UW64)

532 Dem coalition is eroding as New MAGA coalition forms. You see who's mobbing anti-leftys? Union thugs with their pink hat wearing sisters. Not PoC cause they're getting woke to BLM being white libtards in black face

Posted by: kallisto at June 26, 2018 06:49 PM (Mh0FI)

533
But they were led by General Lee, though while the next statement may appear to be blasphemy to many, General Lee was an absolutely terrible general.

There was no time when he acted as if he was actually in a battle for survival, it seemed to be that this was a friendly game of high stakes poker played among true gentlemen.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (lD3vL)



Yeah he was such a horrible general he managed to stymie an opposing army that was twice as large, better equipped and better fed for four years

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 26, 2018 06:49 PM (10vO4)

534 489 As AtC pointed out this morn, the real gem in the travel ban decision was Thomas telling the lower courts to straighten up, or else.

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (BqR2k)

I saw what he wrote earlier.

Could be a signal that they are going to take it up.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 26, 2018 06:49 PM (4ErVI)

535 496
A street in Queens:



Smitty: Hey Trump! Fuck you!



Trump looks over and sees an old friend and yells: Hey Smitty! Up yours!



They both wave at each other and laugh.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2018 06:30 PM



Get muh smellin' salts. Ah feel faint. How rude!

Posted by: Polite Southerner at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (2NqXo)

ahh! see the wisdom in 50 separate states!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)

536 I see that krang is quite the misogynist, claiming emotionalism to be a woman thing.

must be like that Weinstein guy.

Posted by: willow at June 26, 2018 06:50 PM (dPd5y)

537 Pry my corndog from my warm moist lips.

Posted by: Not Michele Bachmann at June 26, 2018 06:50 PM (mntuw)

538 At any rate, my point is that Our Side (that is, Normal Americans) is only growing larger by the day while the Batshit Brigades are rapidly shrinking. After a reckoning, they'll Lunatic Fringe everyone makes fun of once again.

Now, the Asylum is still controlling a lot of the dialogue right now, but I think all it's going to take is one swift, overwhelming, uncompromising kick in the ass from Everyone Else to send them scurrying back to mom's basement to lick their wounds and send impotent capslock death threats to Sarah Huckabee.

They are soy LARPers, and the only reason they've been able to get away with their violent fascist fantasy bullshit is the enabling of the elites (who are quickly losing power) and reluctance of the normies to see them for the rancid little spoiled wastes of sperm they are. Once the gloves are off, though? And with a considerable number of former leftists who got tired of their shit added to the ranks of Normal Americans?

Most. Pathetic. Revolution. Ever.

Point is, keep your powder dry, but remember that we're not as alone as you might think.

Posted by: Saber Alter at June 26, 2018 06:50 PM (yWWaf)

539 Asking the important questions...

What will you call your "post civil-war" bar?

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger


"Liberal's Intestines"

Posted by: rickb223 at June 26, 2018 06:51 PM (FxM6p)

540 House divided against itself and all that. I still support that idea. A split nation becomes two minor countries while others rise to become the dominant geopolitical superpower.

I'm not OK with that.

I'm not OK with the idea that those who came before me sacrificed their lives just to see it end in a pathetic "divorce".

Because divorce is an understandable analogy, but ultimately incorrect.

There is no splitting up the assets and moving into a new apartment.

Once divided, the newly formed sub-countries will immediately engage in conflict either economic or armed (or one leading to the other).

The nation stands as is, or it must be utterly destroyed. There is no middle ground, because this is the kind of "divorce" where each member of the union continues trying to destroy the other long after the divorce decree has been rendered.

Posted by: SGTYork at June 26, 2018 06:51 PM (ITvKk)

541 LeftCoastDawg - yes, the complete disregard for law, the street combat anything-goes mindset of the other side - and its refined equivalent on the courts, which is less crude but just as idiotic, if you doubt it wade through some SCOTUS and circuit rulings the last few years on various topics - defines the collapse of the system.


The USSR had a wonderful (unreadably long) constitution - which meant nothing, because power + mindset of rulers and ruled. Right now a majority or near-majority of judges (and their supporters in law school faculties, NGOs, etc.) literally have no concept of the basic rule of law that was the foundation of our uniquely successful society.


Boss Moss - if states and universities etc. have "standing" block lawful, national-security based decisions of the executive about *admitting foreign nationals to the US*, then ...... obviously, "standing" is meaningless - as are all words and concepts in the orwellian, post-rational toxic dream-world inhabited by the people mentioned in the above paragraph.



Posted by: rhomboid at June 26, 2018 06:51 PM (QDnY+)

542 Posted by: Hikaru at June 26, 2018 06:47 PM (9De+S)

Who said I was in the majority? I said that the local folks-as in "know your friends" vote Democratic and actually I think some of them voted- while retching- for Trump. If people started talking about killing their kids-except in a jocular way when people sometimes talk about raising teens, I mean/ ;^) they would cease to be my friends.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 26, 2018 06:51 PM (O5K3f)

543 Do, please, enlighten us on the definition of "feminine nature."

I don't truck with that guy, but I think the answer is boobs.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 26, 2018 06:51 PM (r+sAi)

544 514
Trump feminine nature provides sufficient material for a doctoral
thesis, even based solely on publicly available material. Submission of
feminine Trump to questions would likely yield classification of new
disorder.

Posted by: Dr Bob Krang at June 26, 2018 06:44 PM (2+qU5)



Ooooh, I can't wait!



Do, please, enlighten us on the definition of "feminine nature."



Please do.

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (7UW64)

I don't get it. Is Dr. Klang a researcher at a "university" or something. What is it with these weird ass posts?
They are so off the wall it's boggling.


Do you suppose Klang has friends and they have long conversations that go on like his posts, four hours and hours? Then he says here hold my beer and he post this weird stuff and they all laugh?





Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 26, 2018 06:51 PM (9dzlp)

545 524
Is "Dr. Bob Krang" the new Mary Cloggenstein?

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)


A troll. A weak troll.

Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 06:52 PM (BqR2k)

546 The county is toxic. It's time to split it up, For the Good of the Children.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:30 PM

The county?

Sure I guess, but why not just take power away from the county supervisors and give it to the cities and towns within the county? Seems to me like it would resolve a lot of problems without going through the hassle of creating new counties.

Posted by: Surfperch at June 26, 2018 06:52 PM (/FLNB)

547 506
"On what grounds? What's the damages to the state?"



Fine, then let us sue the states for making my taxes so damned high
because we have to feed, medicate, educate, clothe, house, entertain and
fluff pillows for millions of greedy, selfish illegal aliens.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at June 26, 2018 06:45 PM (lD3vL)

are those pillows just regular pillows, or are they My Pillows (c) ?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 26, 2018 06:52 PM (UsCnO)

548 Yeah he was such a horrible general he managed to stymie an opposing army that was twice as large, better equipped and better fed for four years

In fairness, he was lucky in his opponents for a few years.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:52 PM (yQpMk)

549 545 524
Is "Dr. Bob Krang" the new Mary Cloggenstein?

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)


A troll. A weak troll.
Posted by: davidt at June 26, 2018 06:52 PM (BqR2k)

Possibly BSG in disguise.

Posted by: Surfperch at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (/FLNB)

550 wow, I didn't realize Elaine Chao is 65! She's in great shape. Those babies are lucky security was there to hold her back.

Posted by: not the mama at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (t2AQi)

551 Cuthbert, perhaps it is only Maryfrom wherever sister.

Posted by: willow at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (dPd5y)

552 i'm reminded of tom wolf's comment at a symposium in the late 60's, after the others worried over social unrest and government "oppression" of the demonstrators, to the effect of: "what are you talking about? - there's a happiness explosion going on!"

just about everybody is invested in the ongoing [rosperity and social cohesion for a civil war.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (Pg+x7)

553

Make playing at Progressive Socialist Antifa Fascist Trugglypuff Resistance Agent PAINFUL.

Most don't have the cojones for the Pain and will go back to muttering and dying early from dysfunctions.

The True Belivers of their Cult of Tyranny will then be that much easier to identify.

Posted by: Truth Hurts, Esq. at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (gMabG)

554 But they were led by General Lee, though while the next statement may appear to be blasphemy to many, General Lee was an absolutely terrible general.

There was no time when he acted as if he was actually in a battle for survival, it seemed to be that this was a friendly game of high stakes poker played among true gentlemen. "

Fredericksburg?

Antietam? (Not a victory per se, but Lee was greatly outnumbered and yet inflicted massive casualties on Federal forces, withdrawing in good order)

I would say he had his moments. He did choke away Gettysburg, though.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (k1TUh)

555 PG if you are still here.

The Army is now going to a 23 week Infantry OSUT

https://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=80190

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at June 26, 2018 06:53 PM (0Ef//)

556 It won't be me in peril - I live in a solid red state with no blue enclaves. It will be the 'rons and ettes that live in red enclaves of blue states that will be in harms way.

Posted by: Archer at June 26, 2018 06:54 PM (gmo/4)

557 "...General Lee was an absolutely terrible general. "

He wasn't so bad until he chose to attack a well fortified position across a mile of exposure.
Pickett's charge was total folly.
The cause was lost that day.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at June 26, 2018 06:54 PM (w7KSn)

558 "When in upstate NY I talk to cashiers just like I do down here. They get nervous and don't know what to do or say. You know you're in Puritan country when you meet this phenomena. A very repressed, judgmental people."

Years ago when my kids were small, we were all just off the ferry in Oak Bluffs for a day trip to Martha's Vineyard, while visiting the grandparents on Cape Cod.

While the boat was docking, I was looking at all of the buildings in the port, and seeing "Doggie Organic Bakery", "Pet Shiatsu Massage", and a few other high-ticket dog-oriented things.

We got off, and went into the Black Dog shop at the pier to look around and stretch our legs, and there were flyers on the counter for some other pet-related event.

I asked one of the employees, in my best broad Blanche DuBois (I am from Virginia, which is bad enough to listen to for your average MA Yankee), "Tell me, sugah, do daawwwwgs have the vote heah?" and managed to look innocently into her eyes without cracking up.

She stared for a moment, then said "I don't know. Sarah?!" (yelling up to the loft) "what?"
"Do dogs vote here?" "What?" "This lady wants to know..."

I lost it then, I couldn't help it.

Was very proud of myself for how long I kept my face straight.

(once I explained it to the girl, she laughed too, at least)

Posted by: barbarausa at June 26, 2018 06:55 PM (ru28e)

559 I thought General Lee did a bang up job. Damn near kicked our Yankee asses while starving, naked, low on supplies, and outnumbered 2-1.

Posted by: General Grant at June 26, 2018 06:55 PM (4dbPD)

560 The county is toxic. It's time to split it up, For the Good of the Children.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:30 PM

The county?

Sure I guess, but why not just take power away from the county supervisors and give it to the cities and towns within the county? Seems to me like it would resolve a lot of problems without going through the hassle of creating new counties.
Posted by: Surfperch at June 26, 2018 06:52 PM (/FLNB)


Lulz

Finally I got a laugh outta this thread. Tyvm.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 26, 2018 06:55 PM (1lhwM)

561 Sitting in a pastry shop at 56th and 5th ave in Manhattan. Girl serves me a double cap with a sweet smile and we exchange pleasantries. If she knew I was MAGAman she would spit in my cup. The media is squarely to blame here. They know exactly what they are doing.
Editors and Publishers first, my friends, then the journalists.
The Jacobins just didn't do it right ;p

Posted by: Karmic Justice at June 26, 2018 06:56 PM (P4JM8)

562 Right now, this can all stop over night if the police and DAs and FBI and DOJ all do their jobs like professionals for all of their countrymen. 

Right now, those people are choosing not to honor their oaths or profession. 

Posted by: naturalfake at June 26, 2018 06:36 PM (ZSkht)

The odds of them refraining from the double down, never mind finding sanity, are about as high as me lucking into a supermodel threesome from playing Xcom.

Posted by: trev006 at June 26, 2018 06:56 PM (S6rSu)

563 Lady wid the nose ring on CBS news says illegal immys are fleeing "domestic abuse".
=====
So did Tina Turner and she didn't have to sneak into a foreign country to do it.
What's her fucking point?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 26, 2018 06:43 PM (nILVB)


Not just one country - some of these folks are "fleeing" across 2-3 countries.

Mexico ain't a small country....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at June 26, 2018 06:56 PM (uDcBt)

564 Sock off

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 26, 2018 06:57 PM (4dbPD)

565 A new order is emerging however not the one Poppy Bush and Juano expected. These disruptions and violent outbursts signal the transition to the First Turning.

Posted by: kallisto at June 26, 2018 06:57 PM (Mh0FI)

566 I don't know why folks automatically believe National Divorce = Civil War 2.0. Peaceful separations of countries are not unheard of. I'm sure as hell not wishing for a civil war. I just want to be left alone.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at June 26, 2018 06:57 PM (R1mDg)

567 ... for a civil war to actually happen.

btw - i'm not into soccer, but denmark is playing france in the world cup right now and i'm pulling for denmark - not least for:

1. they protected the jews during ww II.

2. harvarti cheese, which is good on salami sandwiches with lettuce, mayo and mustard, or just alone as a grilled cheese.

3 the painter wilhelm hammeshoi.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at June 26, 2018 06:58 PM (Pg+x7)

568 Quit trying to split up my country. Divorces occur cause people puss out and quit trying. Deal with the shit and make it work. My ancestors didn't lived their lives building the nation to just "split up".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJR6yUulro

Posted by: Connor at June 26, 2018 06:58 PM (H5hQ5)

569 If it weren't for Lee, the Civil War would have ended in 1863, two years earlier.

Posted by: JAS at June 26, 2018 06:58 PM (3HNOQ)

570 Ooooh, I can't wait!

Do, please, enlighten us on the definition of "feminine nature."

Please do.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 26, 2018 06:46 PM (7UW64)



Yeah...THIS^^^^^.

I bet he's some fat fuck who can't even manage talking to a woman who not at the Jack-in-the-Box service window when he order a triple meat and cheese Jack.

Loo-hoo-a-hooz-er.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 26, 2018 06:59 PM (ZSkht)

571 "There was no time when he acted as if he was actually in a battle for
survival, it seemed to be that this was a friendly game of high stakes
poker played among true gentlemen"

That was a combination of his West Point Training and not believing in the cause he fought for...

...he was lucky to have an incompetent drunk for an opponent.

Posted by: SGTYork at June 26, 2018 06:59 PM (ITvKk)

572 Antietam? (Not a victory per se, but Lee was greatly outnumbered and yet inflicted massive casualties on Federal forces, withdrawing in good order)

Battle of Antietam. To quote the Wiki: The Union had 12,410 casualties with 2,108 dead.[6] Confederate casualties were 10,316 with 1,546 dead.[7][78] This represented 25% of the Federal force and 31% of the Confederate.

I'm sure that General Lee was well acquainted with King Pyrrhus of Epirus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 06:59 PM (yQpMk)

573 4 1/2 weeks AIT as a 11b?

Why do I have a feeling that was changed during TFG's admin?

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at June 26, 2018 06:59 PM (l1wsb)

574 Dr Bob Krang has unmistakeable penis breath.

Posted by: Kreplach at June 26, 2018 06:59 PM (UfMVm)

575 Longstreet had it right and Lee should have listened. Not that it mattered when Sherman got momentum

Posted by: Karmic Justice at June 26, 2018 07:00 PM (P4JM8)

576 561. yes despite a full court press Liar Media didn't nudge the needle their way.

Posted by: kallisto at June 26, 2018 07:02 PM (Mh0FI)

577 It seems to me that Chancellorsville was really the only great Lee victory. Everything else was him avoiding annihilation.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 07:03 PM (yQpMk)

578 556 It won't be me in peril - I live in a solid red state with no blue enclaves. It will be the 'rons and ettes that live in red enclaves of blue states that will be in harms way.
Posted by: Archer at June 26, 2018 06:54 PM (gmo/4)


The purple suburbs are where things will get sporty, I think. House by house and street by street.

Posted by: rickl at June 26, 2018 07:04 PM (sdi6R)

579 General Lee was awesome. The way it took all those jumps with no damage!

Bo and Luke did a good job with it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 26, 2018 07:07 PM (++G28)

580 I can take Seattle in three hours ! I will close all pot shops

Posted by: Rocky Raccoon at June 26, 2018 07:08 PM (B6UVL)

581 566 I don't know why folks automatically believe National Divorce = Civil War 2.0. Peaceful separations of countries are not unheard of. I'm sure as hell not wishing for a civil war. I just want to be left alone.
Posted by: Ex-liberal at June 26, 2018 06:57 PM (R1mDg)

----------------

The other side is completely crazy and thinks they're absolutely right and, by golly, they will re-educate us until we think the correct thoughts.

Shorter version: We want to be left alone, but the scolds on the left won't leave us alone.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at June 26, 2018 07:09 PM (qC1Sy)

582 Joe Johnston, now that was a general who knew how to fight a defensive campaign. Flank and dig in, flank and dig in.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 26, 2018 07:10 PM (yQpMk)

583 I don't think it will be a shooting war in CA but the oligarchs and the government together will do it by hassling people to death so that they leave. Not enough water, not enough electricity, bad roads--it's The Curley Effect on steroids. They are already doing it.

Posted by: PJ at June 26, 2018 07:11 PM (qlTN9)

584 States demanding their own governance and weakening the federal government seems to be the path we are on. Gun rights for some, pot for others.

Or, the dollar could collapse and all of the pot smoking, welfare needing, professional protestors could find out what it's like to live in the real world.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's Boobs at June 26, 2018 07:22 PM (lRFKH)

585 >> We need to discover a new, uninhabited continent to colonize.
Posted by: Emmie at June 26, 2018 05:34 PM (/A+Cl)
====
Canaduh? Its not like a real country, anyway.

Posted by: American Manifest Destiny! at June 26, 2018 07:38 PM (i/KWu)

586 Ace, I know you're hot on national divorce (and I can't say I blame you). Two reasons why I don't think we can give into the temptation, though: nukes and foreign interference.

In the case of divorce, who gets the nukes? Who ever gets them can dictate terms to the other (particular USA Blue to USA Red), invalidating any benefits of divorce. They can be split because flight times are too short on one continent and a first strike could never really be defended against. They can't be eliminated as that would put the USAs under the nuclear guns of Russian and/or China.

And foreign influence can't be prevented. Even if just California were to leave, it itself is fractured enough that it would likely face civil war, and one side or both would likely need to call on foreign aid (Russian, Chinese, or even Mexican). This gives unfriendlies a toe-hold in North America. (Moreover, if you think the border is tough to police now, wait until it grows by 1000 miles and runs from Yuma to Spokane.)

Also consider Blue sympathies abroad. Red USA would have few power allies abroad; the entirety of the remaining G7 countries would back Blue USA with a boycott (or embargo) of Red USA. Neither Russia nor China could be expected to go to bat for Red USA on the UN Security Council (I can't expect Red USA would keep the seat), meaning that sanctions package after sanctions package would also follow.

We've got to keep those who wish us ill close because the alternatives are worse.

Posted by: Dexter Trask at June 26, 2018 08:02 PM (+VC4C)

587 It's terrible, but we've been here a long time. If 9/11 hadn't pinged the radar, the dissolution would have started around 2002.

It will get violent this summer, and if Democrats don't pick up a legislative branch this fall--and it increasingly looks like they will fall well short--the Left will explode. In fact, that has been threatened directly and it isn't at all subtle. During the autumn of 2016, similar threats were made but it wasn't this explicit.


Prediction: if Trump gets the opportunity to appoint one or two more justices, California is out the door.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 26, 2018 08:06 PM (u6lQq)

588 Hey you guys, there's been a NOOD up for a while and no one told us. Ingrates. Swine. Probably a bunch of Demonrats wearing sheep's clothing. Anyway, now you know.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 26, 2018 08:23 PM (md3fh)

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