Trump Speech/Music Thread/Book Club Thread

So people were having fun talking about music in an unrelated threat earlier. You can use this one to start that up again if you like. The topic we were on were Worst/Most Overrated Bands of the 80s, but obviously you can talk about whatever you want.

I read Jazz Shaw's post today about teenagers no longer reading, and the idea (which I can attest to personally) that when you stop reading, your skill at it diminishes. (As do all skills.)

I should say that while I crapped out on Hound of the Baskervilles last time, I just went through it in a couple or three nights. So... I guess by reading I've refurbished my diminished skill in reading a bit?

With that in mind, any idea for a Book Club read? Here's my thought: I'd like to pick a short book, because, well, we all know, I have been pretty unreliable on this score.

I don't want to do a Bart Simpson Book Report on a book I didn't actually finish.

I had a couple of ideas, Treasure Island or Jekyll and Hyde, but I don't know if Treasure Island would hold up, and I've tried to get through Jekyll before and found it pretty lame.

Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 08:09 PM




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1 Bigly.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (mgpkf)

2 I'm waiting for CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY by Ethan Van Sciver.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (mgpkf)

3 >>Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?


Superfudge?

Posted by: Judy Bloom at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (m6d+0)

4 For classics?

Dracula is pretty breezy.

Anything by Larry Corriea is gonna knock your fucking socks off.

Monster Hunter International or Hard Magic.

Brandon Sanderson is fun, too. He writes spunky chix. I like spunky chix.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (Zogyx)

5 I just read MASTER AND COMMANDER by Patrick O'Brien. A delightful work of historical fiction and there seem to be about ten sequels which I'll be wolfing down in the coming months. (The movie they made of it seems to be a mix of stuff from more than one of the books.)

Posted by: joeclark at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (JZf1/)

6 Oh who am I kidding, just pick up an old Penthouse Letters.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (Zogyx)

7 classics have the advantage of being either free or had for fifty cents.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (PA9oZ)

8 OT but I just ripped one so bad the couch seat sagged a couple of inches.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:15 PM (Zogyx)

9 >>classics have the advantage of being either free or had for fifty cents.


Sandra Fluke Sock Status : Classic

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (m6d+0)

10 yeah i don't want to do something of this era. With a classic there are two reasons to read it: it's fun and you like it, AND it's a classic you're supposed to have read. Even if the first one fails, you have the second one.

Modern books don't have that advantage. If someone doesn't like it, then they've just spent $15 for nothing.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (PA9oZ)

11 Pelosi official statement does not mention impeachment.

Hmmm

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (MAstk)

12 Hells Angels, HST

Posted by: Nuclearjim at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (gVRcP)

13 Overrated 80s Band?

Van Halen.


What should we do next?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (m6d+0)

14 It has to be fiction?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (BQPBQ)

15 Space Force roomy

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (YEriz)

16 Of course I'd love you to read one my books, but you could always pretend to have read Moby Dick!

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (QE8X6)

17 >>>14 It has to be fiction?
Posted by: CN

yeah I think so. Nonfiction starts splitting the field up too much.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (PA9oZ)

18 There's also Spice & Wolf by Isuna Hasekura.

It's a light novel series!anout 200 pages a book.

It's about a traveling merchant trying to bang an ancient fox god turned fox girl.

It's great!

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (Zogyx)

19 I have to resort to digital downloads from the library to avoid fronting $15 for a book that will wind up having bullshit leftist talking points in it because the author just can't keep it apolitical like he used to.

Yes, I'm looking at YOU Michael Connelly, you stupid fat fuckstick.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (+dsLj)

20 Evening, all.

What about Animal Farm? Or The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe? Or Huckleberry Finn?

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (SRarZ)

21 I thought you wanted to do this with the Jordan Peterson book, ace.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (JJZzu)

22 The Hobbit was one of my favorite books growing up. If for some reason you missed reading it.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (UfkIY)

23 >>10 yeah i don't want to do something of this era. With a classic there are two reasons to read it: it's fun and you like it, AND it's a classic you're supposed to have read. Even if the first one fails, you have the second one.


Oh. Just saw this. A classic that often reminds me of you is Tristram Shandy. I promise you, you will not be bored.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (QE8X6)

24 17: ok, how about Hemingway or Waugh?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (BQPBQ)

25 Uh Robert, it is Spice + Wolf because Holo is a wolf-deity. Not a fox.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (YEriz)

26 Or, even shorter/easier what if we did some short stories...stuff by Ray Bradbury or Lovecraft? I have a huge interest in Sci-Fi and horror and I love to read short stories in those genres.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (SRarZ)

27 23 Tristram Shandy works

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (BQPBQ)

28 Books for every Moron/ette library:

Road to serfdom - Hayek
Virtue of the anointed - Sowell
Race and Culture - Sowell
Bell curve - Murray

Collected works of Raymond Chandler (2 volume set)
Tom Jones - Fielding
Memoirs of Benevenuto Cellini
Boyd, the Fighter Pilot who Changed the World

Posted by: Slash Buzz at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (mVSBa)

29

Cowboy Poetry

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (uPlWr)

30 Are Archie comics considered short books? The Hulk?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (EPnrI)

31 So what was the consensus opinion on the worst/most overrated bands of the 80s?

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (jm1YL)

32 Space Grifters a Rex Nihilo adventure

Funny story, makes fun of Star Wars.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (dKiJG)

33 LMAO artisanal 'ette!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (SRarZ)

34 Seuss or Schulz? Discuss.

Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (Tyii7)

35 I stumbled across an old book of the "Complete works of Edgar Allen Poe' published in 1876 I think. 1000-1100 pages maybe. Never thought I'd jump into something so deep but was very interesting and I think the last work in the book had
some crypto-mathematecal work in it that supposedly became the background on the US dechipering the German navy in WWI. Wish I still had the book.

Posted by: DBCooper at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (pUzbW)

36 You know what book I've read so many times and I still want to read it again?


Gateway. Frederick Pohl. Maybe the best Sci-Fi ever.

The sequels are pretty good too.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (NLLmE)

37 Ref reading skills.

When I read "Road to Serfdom" a few years back it seemed HARD. After a few chapters it wasn't. The book hadn't changed. I relearned reading skills - I hadn't read a lot of books for awhile. He wrote that in the early 40s and people read more then.

Quite a few years earlier, something like that happened when I went on a C.J. Cherryh binge and read 25 or 30 of her novels in a row. I felt "different" after that.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (dg/6R)

38 Perhaps we could read Camp of the Saints. I've heard it mentioned as being relevant a lot here.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (DzFIB)

39 Well Ace could read Little Fuzzy by H Beam Piper

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18137/18137-h/18137-h.htm

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (YEriz)

40 How about the Crying of Lot 49?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (PUmDY)

41 Uh Robert, it is Spice + Wolf because Holo is a wolf-deity. Not a fox.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (YEriz)

I can type or I can fart but I have a hard time doing both at once.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (Zogyx)

42 So what was the consensus opinion on the worst/most overrated bands of the 80s?
Posted by: Tuna at August




everything from the 90s.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (MTjB1)

43 #20 Orwell...GREAT pick. #28. How about Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt?

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (mgpkf)

44 Or Joseph Conrad?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (BQPBQ)

45 Tony Hillerman. Just do it.

Posted by: Bookguy at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (Ffwmb)

46 Iron Heel by Jack London...

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (mgpkf)

47 Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades



The Prince

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

48 20 Orwell...GREAT pick. #28. How about Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt?
Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (mgpkf)
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Hazlitt is worth reading. His analysis of Keynes is quite readable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (I2dne)

49

Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)

50 >> 17: ok, how about Hemingway or Waugh?
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (BQPBQ)


Hmmm...that's an interesting pairing. Evelyn and Ernest. Muscle and, well...oh, never mind.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (QE8X6)

51 Aha, that would work!

> 47 Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades

The Prince
Posted by: ?

Posted by: ArthurK at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (dg/6R)

52 I can't pick on music from the 80s...

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (mgpkf)

53 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)
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En francais.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (JJZzu)

54 My 17 yo old daughter, forever bucking all trends, averages 2-3 books per week, and I am always building more shelves for her....

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (x7rWu)

55 Oh no, do not read Gateway unless you really want to read about a dystopian future where Humans knowingly take possible suicide rides in abandoned alien spaceships on the off chance of finding riches.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (YEriz)

56 I tried re-reading Heart of Darkness a while back, which I loved in HS, but couldn't get into it again. He's also said by others to not be a great technical writer so I don't know if Conrad would grab enough people.

Maybe a Hemingway. Unless that's too butch for the wamen. (Might be too butch for me, too. I re-read the Son Also Rises. It's about fucking, drinking, fishing and bullfighting.)

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (PA9oZ)

57 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

I had to read that in 8th grade. Couldn't make it all the way through.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (6Zmow)

58 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)
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En francais.
Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (JJZzu)

Le Prince?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (DzFIB)

59 En francais.
Posted by: bluebell at August




Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (MTjB1)

60 "Lydia Bailey" by Kenneth Roberts. My Dad read the cover off of it and he didn't read.

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (cSfOv)

61 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezywTzz7hY0

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (Zogyx)

62 The Creature from Jekyll Island

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (sdi6R)

63 i don't want to do politics or political theory. it's my job!

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (PA9oZ)

64 Did somebody say "Moby Dick"???

https://tinyurl.com/ydad28uv

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (jDF8P)

65 My 17 yo old daughter, forever bucking all trends, averages 2-3 books per week, and I am always building more shelves for her....
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs, still needs a new Nic! at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (x7rWu)
+++++++++
I like AoS but I have trouble engaging in a community that is part (if not the heart) of the Global Shelvist Conspiracy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (I2dne)

66 I tried to reread Leviathan recently. Didn't go well.
Itz haird too rede wiff non-standrd spulleng.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (Iccum)

67 classics have the advantage of being either free or had for fifty cents.


Oh, I've been going through "free classic books on kindle" to get exposure to all kinds of people I keep hearing about but have never read.

A lot of it doesn't hold up.

Anyway, it won't be free but I recommend the long two part short story, or short novella if you prefer, "The Big Two-Hearted River" by Ernest Hemingway.

It's short and compact and it's brilliant. It will take longer to talk about than to read. It's the best piece of short fiction in the American language.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (fuK7c)

68 Upvote for the Camp of the Saints - 40 years ahead of its time.

Atlas Shrugged was another book that, being about human nature, is astonishingly prescient. You can read todays NYT headlines in a book written over 60 years ago...

Posted by: Slash Buzz at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (mVSBa)

69 Mister Metokur dropped a new vidya.

https://youtu.be/85WgYkMbHBA

Worth a watch, because intersectionality, furries, and vidya gaming.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (fA1SL)

70 Books: I've been on a Daniel Silva binge lately. Mossad agent aka fine art restorer aka assasin. I recommend him highly.


Music: Hey, I may be old, but I had all the good music.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (lwiT4)

71 53 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)

Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (6Zmow)

72 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (NLLmE)

73 Whenever anyone asks, I say I'm reading an anthology of Gogol's short stories. That usually ends the conversation.

But if they persist, I say "According to Dostoevsky, all of Russian literature came out of Gogol's Overcoat.... " And that settles their hash.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (7PllL)

74

fucking, drinking, and bullfisting?

Must have been one of Papa's later works...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (qul7b)

75 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Sigh.

Posted by: A Dead Horse at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (Tyii7)

76 Probably the most purely fun series I've ever read was The Deathstalker Chronicles by Simon R. Green. Just classic rollicking, swashbuckling, over-the-top space opera with likeable characters rattling off cool, witty dialogue while fighting for their lives against impossible odds.

The books are mostly around 500 pages each, IIRC, but they're quick reads. Highly recommended!

Posted by: Samuel L. Jackson, edited for TV at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (wSC8T)

77 Le Prince?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (DzFIB)
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Le Petit Prince, actually. Maybe he meant a different book.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (JJZzu)

78 Swiss Family Robinson?

Robinson Crusoe?

Mainly so the Horde can explain all the survival things that they do wrong.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (dEQP3)

79 >>>
Anyway, it won't be free but I recommend the long two part short story, or short novella if you prefer, "The Big Two-Hearted River" by Ernest Hemingway.

It's short and compact and it's brilliant. It will take longer to talk about than to read. It's the best piece of short fiction in the American language.

...

duly noted. I'll look it up as a possibility.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (PA9oZ)

80 I am ELITE! Also, full of gin.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (lwiT4)

81 56 As an ette I love Hemingway

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (BQPBQ)

82 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

I had to read that in 8th grade. Couldn't make it all the way through.
Posted by: ALH at August




I read david copprfield in one night on a bet with my english teacher.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (MTjB1)

83 >>2 I'm waiting for CYBERFROG:BLOODHONEY by Ethan Van Sciver.

I was too late to catch that or Iron Sights but will get Jaw Breakers and Space Force

Posted by: perfectly harmless candiru at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (YR7aL)

84 Oh no, do not read Gateway unless you really want to read about a dystopian future where Humans knowingly take possible suicide rides in abandoned alien spaceships on the off chance of finding riches.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (YEriz)
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I like Gateway, and some of its sequels are quite good. For SciFi though, my preference is Heinlein and Philip K. Dick. Although PKD is more "completely bonkers" than "SciFi" per se. Interesting read regardless, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (I2dne)

85 49 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)

So overrated that I'm listening to the White Album right now. Waiting for your knock, dear!

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (QE8X6)

86 Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe series are all fairly short books. Very enjoyable.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (gC2IV)

87 I reread Treasure Island every fall. Never gets old.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (mxvSl)

88 Pelosi official statement does not mention impeachment.

Hmmm
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (MAstk)

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She is insane about most things, but even so she has been saying Dems need to move on from impeachmeng for a while now.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (I16G8)

89
I read david copprfield in one night on a bet with my english teacher.
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (MTjB1)

Showoff.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (6Zmow)

90 Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH
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Children! Beware of the baobabs!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (9rIkM)

91 56 As an ette I love Hemingway
Posted by: CN at August



what is so special about his way?




counterclockwise swirl?

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (MTjB1)

92 off pervy fish sock

Posted by: bananaDream at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (YR7aL)

93 The Death Of Ivan Ilyich, which is a short Tolstoy. About 100 pages.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (xPl2J)

94 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM

Dude had issues.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (mxvSl)

95 Off, melon-farming sock!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler, Super-Elite at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (wSC8T)

96 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM (NLLmE)
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There's a large public park/space named after him in Wales. Something of a national literary hero, by my understanding.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (I2dne)

97 Read the Three Musketeers in college and found it riveting and surprisingly funny.

Posted by: En_Garde! at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (F9FuN)

98 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)



I do believe we're going to have a problem here.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (lwiT4)

99 The Prince
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (MTjB1)


or, The Little Prince (Le Petit Prince for Ace)

very small book
delightful

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (uPlWr)

100 Actually, it's called The Little Prince.

Posted by: ALH




not the one Machiavelli wrote and not the one that I sleep with on my nightstand

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (MTjB1)

101 90Always preferred Wind, Sand, and, Stars...

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (BQPBQ)

102 Here is a question to ponder, does Joe Halderman's science fiction novel The Forever War hold up?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (YEriz)

103 My 17 yo old daughter, forever bucking all trends, averages 2-3 books per week, and I am always building more shelves for her....

****************

Thank God it's not ace doing that.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (+dsLj)

104 "The Theory and Practice of Hell" by Eugen Kogon.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (EoRCO)

105 War with the Newts by Karel Capek (also wrote the short story RUR). I like dystopia but before YA fiction made it trendy.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (mgpkf)

106 Google up top 25 short novels for suggestions. I think you did The Lottery already right? How about The Monkey's Paw? The Occurrence?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (2DOZq)

107 "Chrome Yellow" by Huxley was a fun and short read (probably 50 years ago for me).

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (cSfOv)

108 Trying to remember all of the crap they forced me to read in high school. I remember I hated most of it, but I can't recall if that is because I was forced to read it, or because I really hated it.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (SRarZ)

109 I never tire of One Fish, Two Fish...

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (Tyii7)

110 Anything by Dr. Seuss.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (6Zmow)

111 He's done. He ought to have been a preacher. He has the gift.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (lwiT4)

112 #80 Victory Gin?

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (mgpkf)

113 Absalom! Absalom!

Worth a read. I read it at least once a year.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (fA1SL)

114 not the one Machiavelli wrote and not the one that I sleep with on my nightstand
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (MTjB1)
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yep, I had the wrong one.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (JJZzu)

115 Metamorphosis

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (2DOZq)

116
I read david copprfield in one night on a bet with my english teacher.
Posted by: ?


David Copperfield made my book disappear.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (IqV8l)

117 Great Expectations by Charles Dickens.

I had to read that in 8th grade. Couldn't make it all the way through.
Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM

It easn't all that I'd hoped for.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (mxvSl)

118 Hey, here's a good one: Kant's "Critique of Pure Judgment." Just see if you can figure out what the hell he's talking about.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (QE8X6)

119 What about Ray Bradbury?

(sorry I am a classic sci-fi fangirl)

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (SRarZ)

120 Always preferred Wind, Sand, and, Stars...

Posted by: CN
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Agreed! For me, one of the best books ever about flying.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (9rIkM)

121 I never tire of One Fish, Two Fish...
Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden

Glad that Audible subscription is paying off.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:29 PM (Iccum)

122 yep, I had the wrong one.
Posted by: bluebell at August



Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (MTjB1)

123 Most overrated band? Green Day. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (c056A)

124 Trump just finished his speech.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

125 How is that senatorial candidate doing ? any chance he will replace manchin ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (bUjCl)

126 I don't want to read anything the elites read. No Catcher in the Rye crap. Or Moby Dick.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (lwiT4)

127 115. The Trial, also good.

And The Castle.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (fA1SL)

128 Willowed from last thread...Missed what Trump said about censorship. Anyone catch what he said?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (hECVl)

129 The Great Gatsby...F. Scott.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (mgpkf)

130 I read a Roald Dahl story once called The Great Switcheroo. It's about two guys who concoct a plan to switch beds in the middle of the night and have sex with the other's wife without the wives finding out.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (xPl2J)

131 The bridge of San Luis Rey

Posted by: NCKate at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (ej/4k)

132 Slash Buzz- you mean "The Vision of the Anointed", one of Sowell's best. I also really enjoyed and recommend Sowell's "A Conflict of Visions". He describes history as a never ending political conflict between the unrestrained vision (aka utopianism) and the restrained vision (the realists).

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (4YHTV)

133 Boyd, the Fighter Pilot who Changed the World

Posted by: Slash Buzz at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM

went to amazon
read the blurb
bought the kindle edition, price no object
this looks like something I have to read
just hope I'm not disappointed.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (I9Sw7)

134 The Paul Simon set list on his farewell tour now are great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM (PUmDY)

135 The Art of the Deal.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (6Zmow)

136 Harold And The Purple Crayon.

Posted by: Corona at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (MceDl)

137 How about a Travis McGee book? I'm starting "A Purple Place for Dying" tonight.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodwicz at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (jkztu)

138 Short, classic, fun, relevant... Animal Farm.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (PFd3d)

139 Short Book ...

... Starship Troopers. And just about every chapter is worth a discussion.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (fiGNd)

140 I'd like to read Camp of the Saints

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (IDhUW)

141 #123 Pearl Jam (BLAH). I like the Counting Crows...Palisades Park.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (mgpkf)

142 120; pure joy

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (BQPBQ)

143 #134 Graceland is a great / timeless album.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (mgpkf)

144 Earnest Hemingway was an overly verbose blowhard.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (gC2IV)

145 My tummy hurts. I ate too much today.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (6Zmow)

146 War and Peace Cliff Notes

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (2DOZq)

147 read a Roald Dahl story once called The Great Switcheroo. It's about two guys who concoct a plan to switch beds in the middle of the night and have sex with the other's wife without the wives finding out.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:30 PM

Read Pig. Like I said...dude had issues. And a dark sense of humor.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (mxvSl)

148 I just bought the book, "I'm Dead. Now What?" It might prove useful to any number of people.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (lwiT4)

149 Still LOVE Pink Floyd...have seen Waters and Gilmour.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (mgpkf)

150 Willowed from last thread...Missed what Trump said about censorship. Anyone catch what he said?

*****************

He said essentially that people have a right to speak freely without being deplatformed and that as much as he despised fakenews you have to have them around, people's voices cant be censored just because you dont like what they say.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (+dsLj)

151 The author of The Little Prince Antoine de Saint-Expurey vanished in 1944 on a combat mission whilst flying a Lockheed F-5 Photo-recon Lightning.

https://www.thisdayinaviation.com/tag/lockheed-f-5b-lightning/

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (YEriz)

152

Sodomy Jones and the Temple of Poon by Lance Hardthrust is a classic manga read. Watch out for the popup tentacles though.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (qul7b)

153 94 Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wrote adult works too.

Oddly fascinating writing sensibility.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:25 PM


Charlie and the Front Hole?

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (hPCXF)

154 Historical mystery fiction: Philip Kerr's Bernard Gunther series starting with "Berlin Noir" the first three novels in one book. Riveting and engaging. An anti-hero doing the best he can as a Berlin homicide detective unimpressed with and despising of the Nazis.

Posted by: Yawrate at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (U2SYP)

155 I will listen to anything ELO. Or Diamond Rio. Also, I have gin and should stop typing at any moment.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (lwiT4)

156 Try rereading "Future Shock" (or reading it for the first time, if I've chased you off my lawn).

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (txw6d)

157 If we're going to do a book club let's not make it anything too deep. Many of us work and are pretty well snookered mentally at the end of the day. I'd love something humorous. Maybe Wodehouse?

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (jm1YL)

158 Earnest Hemingway was an overly verbose blowhard.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (gC2IV)

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Yeah, he took 300 pages to let out a fart. It was kinda the writing style of the time, though.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (I16G8)

159 The Mouse and the Motorcycle was one of my favorite books as a kid.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (2DOZq)

160 149 Pink Floyd was destroyed for me by a kid, a former patient, who wrote a 30 page suicide note based on their music

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (BQPBQ)

161 ok, how about Hemingway or Waugh?

Posted by: CN at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (BQPBQ)



Waugh. Hemingway is pure torture.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (SiINZ)

162 Count of Monte Cristo
Or anything by Sowell

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (IDhUW)

163 I've been reading a lot of Ray Bradbury's short stories to keep my mind off of politics. Unlike a lot of scifi/ fantasy writers, he had faith in humanity and his stories reflect that. It's refreshing. His stories are fantastic, charming, haunting and generally have a great twist at the end.

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (4YHTV)

164 Historical mystery fiction: Philip Kerr's Bernard Gunther series starting with "Berlin Noir" the first three novels in one book. Riveting and engaging. An anti-hero doing the best he can as a Berlin homicide detective unimpressed with and despising of the Nazis.

Strong +1

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (qul7b)

165 I'm not reading Hemingway.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (lwiT4)

166 I actually have a copy of Camp of the Saints but haven't read it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (4ErVI)

167 Sodomy Jones and the Temple of Poon by Lance Hardthrust is a classic manga read. Watch out for the popup tentacles though.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (qul7b)

The pop up tentacles tend to get stuck to the pages the more you read the book.

Also, don't buy a used copy.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (DzFIB)

168 I've mentioned this a few time before but I think Chesterton's "The Flying Inn" is a great classic and a short read. About normal fun loving people trying to escape progressive types who have sold out their country to foreign interests. The progressive types want to abandon western civilization to show how virtuous they are. And the protagonists want to drink rum and be happy.

Posted by: bananaDream at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (YR7aL)

169 Canticle for Leibowitz, and, The Lathe of Heaven are good reads.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (PFd3d)

170 Finger Paint by the Numbers, Vol. III

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (Tyii7)

171 143, check out his set lists on setlist.fm. Plays most of Graceland.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (PUmDY)

172 Anything with Fabio on the cover.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (6Zmow)

173 Treasure Island is a great read.The Call of the Wild.
Animal Farm.Nineteen Eighty-Four.

All very manageable lengths, classics for a reason...

Posted by: Lyford at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (CcBsx)

174

Famous Jewish Sports Legends is always reliable.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (qul7b)

175 Posted by: bananaDream at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (YR7aL)



Sounds good to me.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (lwiT4)

176 I LOVE the Count of Monte Cristo, but it's a long read.
I would suggest Dracula - I do it almost every year around early autumn in prep for Halloween.
Thanks for the thread on Ye Olde Books (and 80's music). =)
If anyone likes murder mysteries and the 1930's I love Rex Stout's Nero Wolfe books.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (Gim9y)

177 I actually have a copy of Camp of the Saints but haven't read it.

Skimmed it; skipped a lot to get to the punchline at the end.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (I9Sw7)

178 The Idiot, by F. Dostoevsky

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (wBMGD)

179 Book thread idea?


The new Obama/Biden Mystery one.


It would be worth it for the hilarious snark, alone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

180 159 The Mouse and the Motorcycle was one of my favorite books as a kid.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:34 PM (2DOZq)


I remember that one.

Beverly Cleary is still alive at 102.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Cleary

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (sdi6R)

181 A Farewell to Arms *sob*

Posted by: MIchelle Fields at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (bUjCl)

182 G.K. Chesterton, Club of Queer Trades

Short, fun, unusual, and a delicious read like all of Chesterton.

Posted by: koulbassa at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (VHlrv)

183 13 Overrated 80s Band?

Van Halen.

What should we do next?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (m6d+0)

Are you out of your mind? I don't know how anyone could say that after watching some of their live performances in the '80s with both Roth and Hagar on vocals:

https://tinyurl.com/y79pnmyo

https://tinyurl.com/ya546jcj

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (rtfSu)

184 Famous Jewish Sports Legends is always reliable.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (qul7b)



You got your Sandy Koufax. And your Ryan Braun. And ....

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (lwiT4)

185 >>>102 Here is a question to ponder, does Joe Halderman's science fiction novel The Forever War hold up?

I read it for the first time five or six years ago and I remember liking it. The tech stuff seemed a bit dated but the Fast Forward stuff with the earth changing was interesting.

Though, Trigger Warning, a lot of the Future Shock he gets from going back to earth concerns homosexuality becoming first tolerated, then hip, and ultimately mandated.

Living in a PC age, I was surprised at how that became the dominant signifier of change. I don't remember a lot of other stuff changing.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (PA9oZ)

186 165 I'm not reading Hemingway.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (lwiT4)

I piss in the waters of your ancestors!

Posted by: Hemingway at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (QE8X6)

187
Beverly Cleary is still alive at 102.

Beezus and Ramona.

Ramona named her doll Chevrolet because it was the most beautiful name she had ever heard.

Posted by: ALH at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (6Zmow)

188 Worst/Most Overrated Band of the '80s? Poison or Culture Club are the worst, while U2 or Guns N' Roses are the most overrated.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (rtfSu)

189 Anything Follet. I've reread more than a couple of his books like Pillars of the Earth. The latest trilogy I'm just starting on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (pw+jk)

190 Hemmingway was a commie. He used to sit sipping cocktails watching Che's deathsquads shooting prisoners.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (Iccum)

191 Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (+dsLj)
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Thanks. Hoping that something gets done because Conservatives are being discriminated against.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (hECVl)

192 Free books?

Diary of a Nursing Sister on the Western Front.

The author's outlook begins as if WW1 were just another 19th century Boer wars thing. A gun shot wound or a minor sickness, then a spot of tea. Just another upper middle class English lark-about. Then the reality of the thing dawns on her.

Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (K3B2k)

193 We can read Proust and then summarize him.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (vDqXW)

194 I think Haldemann said that sexual mores were the most Future Shock thing he experienced as a vietnam vet. When he left it was 1956 (sexually), when he came back it was suddenly a sexual thunderdome. I think he just jumped on homosexuality as an extrapolation of that.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (PA9oZ)

195 Famous Jewish Sports Legends is always reliable.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (qul7b)

You got your Sandy Koufax. And your Ryan Braun. And ....

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (lwiT4)




Surely, you can't be serious

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (SiINZ)

196 I recently watched "Dune" for the first time since it first appeared on the screen. It was even more awful than I remember.

I wonder if it could be remade and be worthwhile?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (ptqGC)

197 I just bought the book, "I'm Dead. Now What?" It might prove useful to any number of people.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:32 PM (lwiT4)


The title itself is False Advertising. Dead People don't read.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (fiGNd)

198 Any other ideas? Short, maybe nostalgic, maybe classic, maybe kind of fun?

Posted by: Ace of Spades

Big Trouble by Dave Barry.

Its a quick read.

I've read it at least 20 times.

its fun.

You will laugh so hard your shelves will fall down.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (ZqWjz)

199

Idiots Guide to the Care and Feeding of Useful Idiots by L. Enin is kind of a companion to Alinsky.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (qul7b)

200 Typhoon by Josef Conrad

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (MVjcR)

201 ''I would suggest Dracula - I do it almost every year around early autumn in prep for Halloween.''

Great choice for fall. We could follow up with a discussion of the various Dracula movies.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (jm1YL)

202 176 I LOVE the Count of Monte Cristo

Me too! LOVE the scene where Mercedes reappears. Shakespeare-level characters in a barn-burner.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (QE8X6)

203 Give Quicksilver by Neal Stephenson a try. By 100 pages you will either love it or hate it, and you can go from there.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (xEt5a)

204 Niles Hokkanen's Pocket Guide to Mandolin Chords. It doesn't just show you the diagrams, it really gets into the theory behind each chord. It's a steal at $4 - you can't get a pint for that, and it fits in your pocket or your mandolin gig bag. Really change your life, man.

https://tinyurl.com/yd9hk385

If you're looking for one of those books that aren't about mandolin chords, I don't know how much I can help with that. Maybe someone else has some ideas.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (y87Qq)

205 Dead People don't read.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (fiGNd)
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buzzion does.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (JJZzu)

206 If you haven't read Armor , the first third of the book is the top page turner book I've ever read and I'm not a big sci-fi fan .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (2DOZq)

207 Surely, you can't be serious

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (SiINZ)



Do I look like a Shirley to you?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (lwiT4)

208 >>>Maybe Wodehouse?

good suggestion.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (PA9oZ)

209 Man, this Kopech kid has electric stuff.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (xEt5a)

210 Lord of the Flies?

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (JKNZq)

211 Count of Monte Cristo. Decent read if not already mentioned.

Posted by: Perchjerker at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (+J9U0)

212 will someone define "overrated" for me, s'il vous plait ? U2 was popular and sold a lot of albums. what would make it overrated ? maybe annoying because of Bonno's posturing ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)

213 Rapunzel

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (Tyii7)

214 I got the same vibe with the world government Mandela had to deal with in that story which was pushing ZPG even though in a war with the Taurans. Yeah on the third mission when Mandela finds out his unit doctor is a closet heterosexual really struck a current PC madness chord. And it was amusing how the world they left behind could not understand the joke of calling a planet The Middle Finger because of it.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (YEriz)

215 How about 'If you were a Dinosaur, my love'?
/sarc

Old Sci-fi is fun - maybe "A Princess of Mars"?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (W+vEI)

216 Book thread idea?


The new Obama/Biden Mystery one.


It would be worth it for the hilarious snark, alone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (ptqGC)



That would be fun

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (SiINZ)

217 Books: I've been on a Daniel Silva binge lately. Mossad agent aka fine art restorer aka assasin. I recommend him highly.


He's good.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (ZqWjz)

218 I agree with Anna Puma about Little Fuzzy. (I re-read it recently.) It's a quick read, and good SciFi.

Art of the Deal is also a quick read (though not as quick). The actual Art is Chapter 2, and the rest of the book's chapter's are individual case studies. So -- biographical, but not really, if that makes sense. It's actually about the deals.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (gCRM2)

219 TDG by you guys!

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (MVjcR)

220 will someone define "overrated" for me, s'il vous plait ? U2 was popular and sold a lot of albums. what would make it overrated ? maybe annoying because of Bonno's posturing ?
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)
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Overrated means things a lot of other people liked, but you want to dump on.

Like Das Boot, for me.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (vDqXW)

221 I would second Animal Farm, and suggest also 1984 and Brave New World.

Jonathan Livingston Seagull and My Side Of The Mountain were wonderful and inspiring when I was young.

Also, H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."


For fun, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."



And then there's always the 1000-page "Atlas Shrugged." ;-)

Posted by: ShainS at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (WqPYg)

222 grammie, thank you for the reminder about Daniel Silva, I keep meaning to read his stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (dEQP3)

223 Tai'Pan by James Clavell

King Rat

Shogun

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (I9Sw7)

224 Anything by Chesterton
Not Hemingway
Id like to read The Idiot

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)

225 ''The new Obama/Biden Mystery one. ''

Ain't paying for that book..no way.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (jm1YL)

226 A recent book I enjoyed was The Razor's Edge by Somerset Maugham

Posted by: DaveD at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (9HR8n)

227 The Three Musketeers reads as if it's a modern book. I think it's the casual hedonism and cynicism, maybe.

But it's long.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (PA9oZ)

228 Two of my favorite books are Good Night Moon, and How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight? The latter is more open to a discussion-type format.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (lwiT4)

229 "The new Obama/Biden Mystery one. ''
--
The old mystery is perplexing enough.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (vDqXW)

230 A recent book I enjoyed was The Razor's Edge by Somerset Maugham
Posted by: DaveD at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (9HR8n)
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Oh my gosh, that movie was the most depressing thing ever.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (JJZzu)

231 HIGHLY recommend The Art of the Deal on audiobook, the rerelease from 2016 with Trump reading the intro. I'd never read it before and it's amazing how much the guy is just who he's always been. Only he's even savvier now.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (xEt5a)

232 How about a classic short every week to build up some momentum, and maybe pick a shortish novel to be discussed in a month or so.

One problem is if you pick just a novel, then no one has any incentive until the day before we plan to discuss it. This way you got weekly reminders. mo' gains.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (LWu6U)

233 I think Danny Elfman would agree to putting Oingo Boingo on the most overrated list

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (Iccum)

234 You will laugh so hard your shelves will fall down.
Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (ZqWjz)



Too soon!

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (NLLmE)

235 The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (vDqXW)

236 I haven't seen 1984 suggested yet, so Imma go with that.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (I16G8)

237 grammie, thank you for the reminder about Daniel Silva, I keep meaning to read his stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (dEQP3)



He's very good. It's not necessary to read his books in order, but it does provide backstory info if you do. Not crucial though.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (lwiT4)

238 The Constitution is short read. It's almost fiction in this day and age.

Posted by: Infidel at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (pcnVL)

239 How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?

With a raptorous hug?

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (Tyii7)

240 Let's be politically incorrect. "Tom Sawyer".

Posted by: Rosasharn at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (PzBTm)

241 I don't want to read anything the elites read. No Catcher in the Rye crap. Or Moby Dick.


Posted by: grammie winger


Bob Ueker wrote the catcher in the wry......

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (ZqWjz)

242 The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (vDqXW)



I'd rather kill myself.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (lwiT4)

243 >>>Id like to read The Idiot
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)


Love, love, love, but if you haven't done so, start with Crime and Punishment. Stick with it. Incredible psychological drama.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (QE8X6)

244 Overrated: Joan Jett.

I hate myself for loving Rock-n-Roll.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (vDqXW)

245 >>>How about a classic short every week to build up some momentum, and maybe pick a shortish novel to be discussed in a month or so.

yeah maybe but while this is easy for Kindle-owners, it's not so easy for non-Kindle-owners.

I've been reading a lot of short stories lately (or short-ish stories) and I'm all in favor of this, but... it's hard to get just one short story without having to buy a whole book. Unless you have a kindle.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (PA9oZ)

246 Treasure Island is, in my opinion, the best boy's adventure novel ever.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (fp1LP)

247 Count me in for Dracula too! It's a great read and much better than any of the movies.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (Ri0Ku)

248 All these comments in and no-one has suggested Space Raptor Butt Invasion yet?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (Iccum)

249 For people into benchracing dirt bikes.

Monkey Butt! by Rick Sieman

Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (K3B2k)

250 I'd never read it before and it's amazing how much the guy is just who he's always been. Only he's even savvier now.

*******************************

I like the end where he talks about how he wanted to give back to the country after all the country gave him. 30 years later....

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (+dsLj)

251 Ace may I suggest Replay by Ken Grimwood? It was a good book, easy to read and pretty fascinating. It's about a guy who keeps going back and re-living his life. I just reread it a few weeks ago.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (dUJdY)

252 Heinlein's fun stuff, like Starship Troopers or his "Young Adult" novels.

Not the later, pervy stuff.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (xEt5a)

253 Mark Twain, Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (JKNZq)

254 ''The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (vDqXW)



I'd rather kill myself.''

I read that between high school and college because you know everyone was reading it. Blah!

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (jm1YL)

255 Also, H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."


Yes, that and The Invisible Man. Two surprisingly great reads.

I had only ever seen the movies and had no idea how good the books were.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (NLLmE)

256 "Huckleberry Finn".

Okay, I'm done.

Posted by: Rosasharn at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PzBTm)

257 Two of my favorite books are Good Night Moon, and How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?
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Good ones - I also like Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel and Ferdinand the Bull. Reading those to granddaughter #2 tonight. I need a break from being an adult.

Who am I kidding? I'm a Moron - no adulting here.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (9rIkM)

258 >>>247 Count me in for Dracula too! It's a great read and much better than any of the movies.

how long is it, though?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PA9oZ)

259 Cover of "Hope Never Dies," an Obama/Biden Mystery:

https://tinyurl.com/yboxwbo5


Sadly, right beneath it at Amazon, is a book with the same title, about people who have survived late stage cancer.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (ptqGC)

260 In the Heart of the Sea.

You can read an unbelievable true story and say you sort of read Moby Dick.

And you know you want to say you read Moby Dick.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (/tuJf)

261 yeah dracula is listed at 431 pages.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (PA9oZ)

262 192 Free books?

Diary of a Nursing Sister on the Western Front.

The author's outlook begins as if WW1 were just another 19th century Boer wars thing. A gun shot wound or a minor sickness, then a spot of tea. Just another upper middle class English lark-about. Then the reality of the thing dawns on her.
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This sounds interesting

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (IDhUW)

263 Begriffsschrift, a Formula Language, Modeled Upon That of Arithmetic, for Pure Thought

by Gottlob Frege.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (vDqXW)

264 194 I think Haldemann said that sexual mores were the most Future Shock thing he experienced as a vietnam vet. When he left it was 1956 (sexually), when he came back it was suddenly a sexual thunderdome. I think he just jumped on homosexuality as an extrapolation of that.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (PA9oZ)

He deals with that bit in The Forever War. After one of one of the main character's time dilated trips out he comes back and finds that homosexuality has taken over and is the norm rather than an aberration. The main character becomes one of the few heterosexuals on the ship he takes on his next campaign. That might be how Haldeman himself felt in '68 or '69.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (1FhAQ)

265 Two of my favorite books are Good Night Moon, and How Do Dinosaurs Say Goodnight?
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Good ones - I also like Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel and Ferdinand the Bull. Reading those to granddaughter #2 tonight. I need a break from being an adult.

Who am I kidding? I'm a Moron - no adulting here.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (9rIkM)
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I was always partial to Harry the Dirty Dog.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (JJZzu)

266 258 >>>247 Count me in for Dracula too! It's a great read and much better than any of the movies.

how long is it, though?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PA9oZ)

Pretty long I think.

I read a Penguin Classics version that had added stuff though.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (4ErVI)

267 Hi Ace.

Last of the Mohicans?
Another one of the Leatherstocking Tales?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (wbRN9)

268 yeah maybe but while this is easy for Kindle-owners, it's not so easy for non-Kindle-owners.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (PA9oZ)


You can read Kindle content in your browser, you don't need a physical reader. It's not terribly comfortable for longer stuff, but it works for short stories.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (y87Qq)

269 And I like the Animal Farm idea too.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (Ri0Ku)

270 I'll second Dracula. The unabridged version.

Gogol and Chekov short stories are good, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (mxvSl)

271 Vampyr?

Could always get lost in the history behind what Bram Stoker wrote by picking up a copy of Christopher Frayling's Vampyres: Lord Byron to Count Dracula.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycm9r9bh

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (YEriz)

272 For Jekyll and Hyde, the problem nowadays is that you already know the ending. It's a horror story, in the unease between the good doctor and this evil person rather than in guts and gore. But since you go in knowing the gimmick of the story, the *WHAM* line at the end isn't even a flick on the cheek. And every other part of the story is diluted by that fact.

It's kind of like a murder mystery. If you know very well that Mr. Black murdered the Duchess, you pick out the red herrings and ignore the What-Ifs because you already know the one path to the answer of Whodunnit. And if you know this as a given, without even having touched the story, you don't even get the benefit of a second reading to see what misconceptions you had before versus what you now know.

Posted by: Another Anon at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (MTejJ)

273 Id like to read The Idiot
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)
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Dreams from my Father? Or Audacity of Hope?

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (vDqXW)

274 212 will someone define "overrated" for me, s'il vous plait ? U2 was popular and sold a lot of albums. what would make it overrated ? maybe annoying because of Bonno's posturing ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:41 PM (bUjCl)

I was never a big fan of U2's sound, though I do like a few of their songs (e.g., "New Year's Day"). I think they were just overhyped in the '80s, especially among various music critics. I prefer my music fun, not a dissertation on various social and historical issues. Did anyone take themselves more seriously back then than Bono?

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM (rtfSu)

275 I have gone through the Hemingway novels and it didn't hit the spot for me.

Read Tolstoy's war and peace but took me two years and read thirty books during it. Ehh.

I like Heinlein mucho mucho and he was prescient. Many of the sci-fi old school like Nevin, dick, and others but not classics but good reads.

Just reread Animal Farm and Brave New world about 4 years ago. Looking to reread 1984 soon.

Took awhile to chew through Basic Economics By Sowell and recommend it to any leftist but they laugh at that suggestion.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (pw+jk)

276 White Lotus by John Hersey

I have a book about dulcimer chords, does that count?

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (JKNZq)

277 how long is it, though?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (PA9oZ)



That's a rather personal question. Oh the book. My paperback version is just under 400 pages

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (SiINZ)

278 An underrated Ayn Rand novel is her first one, "We the Living". It's about a young woman living in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. Since she escaped from the Soviet Union in the 1920s, she said many years later that it was as close as she would ever come to writing an autobiography.

Once she emigrated to the West, she had trouble getting it published. One publisher told her that she really didn't understand Communism.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

279 >>Books: I've been on a Daniel Silva binge lately. Mossad agent aka fine art restorer aka assasin. I recommend him highly.

Yeah, he's good.


How about a Dick Francis mystery?
British, always related to hose stuff (steeplechase, etc.) and it expands your vocabulary.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (W+vEI)

280 How about a Travis McGee book? I'm starting "A Purple Place for Dying" tonight.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodwicz

All of the travis Mcgee books are good, as are John d. Mcdonald's.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (ZqWjz)

281 Tribe takin' it to the Sox.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (Tyii7)

282 Did anyone take themselves more seriously back then than Bono?
==
Sting ? maybe not.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (bUjCl)

283 ''How about a Dick Francis mystery?
British, always related to hose stuff (steeplechase, etc.) and it expands your vocabulary.''

''Whip Hand"

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (jm1YL)

284 223 Tai'Pan by James Clavell

King Rat

Shogun

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (I9Sw7)

Good, immersive books, but all looooong.

Posted by: joncelli of the Tribe of the Drunken Moose at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (1FhAQ)

285 Twins can't stop Kopech - but the dang rain can...

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (xEt5a)

286 Imran Awan got 3 months of supervised released. Judge liked his anti Trump rant so much, she waved the fine he had been given.

We're hosed.....

Oh and Sessions was there. He said nothing....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (Enq6K)

287 Clavell is way too long

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (bUjCl)

288 Oh and Sessions was there. He said nothing....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 08:52 PM (Enq6K)
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What do you expect a plant to say?

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (vDqXW)

289 http://storyoftheweek.loa.org/
I found this site a few days ago. They have a lot of stories in their archive. I was looking for Elmore Leonard's "3:10 To Yuma" and found it here through Google.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (xPl2J)

290
touted by instapundit
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/305373/

led me to
"House to House" by SSG David Bellavia
looks to be brutal

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (I9Sw7)

291 I wouldn't mind re-reading Bonfire of the Vanities.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (ptqGC)

292 No firm consensus on worst/over rated 80s band I see.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (jm1YL)

293 >>'The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.

Even better: rent the movie starring...Gwyneth Paltrow. You are rooting for suicide.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (W+vEI)

294 James Clavell

Great stuff.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (Tyii7)

295 how long is it, though?
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM
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I'll go check......

Dracula's over 400 pages; but Frankenstein is only about 225. That was pretty good too, but not as scary as Dracula.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (Ri0Ku)

296 282 Did anyone take themselves more seriously back then than Bono?
==
Sting ? maybe not.
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (bUjCl)

To his credit, Bono overinflated the whole band and stayed loyal to his mates. Sting has always been all about Sting.

But both have completely ceased to rock.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (xEt5a)

297 I love Hemingway, sorry not sorry, especially The Old Man and the Sea. (And I am an 'ette too.)

RE: Count of Monte Cristo - I was SO into the book I actually looked forward to the treadmill! I propped my Nook up with an easel, got on the treadmill and read it every day until I was done. There were so many ups and downs and my God, it was an experience. Then I started The Three Musketeers, all excited, and it felt frivolous and silly, and that ended my Dumas streak. LOL
Most overrated band for me is The Beatles, by far. Good lord. Way before my time, but I still knew people obsessed with them, and they only had a few good songs, plus Lennon was an absolute asshole.

As far as 80's bands go, I'd say Van Halen is a good one, and if you read my childhood diary, you'd see the most UNDERRATED band of the 80's - because they weren't on American Top 40 long enough, or on Solid Gold - was The Police. Also I loved old INXS then like Shabooh Shoobah and The Swing, but not their 'newer' stuff.

To overrated - Bon Jovi and Guns and Roses.


Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (Gim9y)

298 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b

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Look behind you, see thal line in the dirt? You done crossed it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (0dbnJ)

299 >>'The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath.



Even better: rent the movie starring...Gwyneth Paltrow. You are rooting for suicide.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (W+vEI)


Her best work was Head in a Box.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (ptqGC)

300 some harlequin romance novel. bodice buster.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (MTjB1)

301 Short ...hmm how about ...either Agatha CHristie or George Simenon. Mysteries. I vote for Simenon over Agatha.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (bUjCl)

302 >>led me to
"House to House" by SSG David Bellavia
looks to be brutal



It's a good book!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (W+vEI)

303 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (2bWtt)

304 The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (vDqXW)

305 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.



Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b



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Look behind you, see thal line in the dirt? You done crossed it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (0dbnJ)



I love you Vlad.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (lwiT4)

306 Hey there, AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (y87Qq)

307 ''Her best work was Head in a Box.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (ptqGC)''

LOLOLOL.....

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 08:55 PM (jm1YL)

308 I've read some of the books mentioned here. Moby Dick was awful. Just nonstop stream of consciousness nonsense, with a few brilliant sentences. The whole story of Moby Dick that we all know happens in the last five pages, or so.

Camp of the Saints was very prescient and didn't take long, but had a depressing ending.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (fp1LP)

309 And since we're approaching autumn, two of my seasonal favorites are Shades of Gray (good West Point ghost story for a Smart Military Blog (TM)), and The Haunted Bookshop, by Christopher Morley.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (mxvSl)

310 I love a good, long read. Haven't done a short story in years.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (Tyii7)

311 Really really short story?

Lamb to the Slaughter

Bet CSI still couldn't figure that one out even today.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (YEriz)

312 The Shepherd of the Hills
By Harold Bell Wright


Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (bML9A)

313 The Beatles are overrated?? FFS.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (NpK5V)

314 The Swamp is trying to stop Trump rallies, stop Kavanaugh ad win the midterms, all in one whack

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (7rpiB)

315 If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (dEQP3)

316


I'm reading a book by Carlo Morelli, The Order of Time.

It's a short book, but caused reflection, no math, but the concepts don't need it...

It's not a light fun read, it gets to the heart of existence, what is going on in that time that can't be measured that you experience your surroundings...

He has thought deep about time. I get a sense of sadness and futility in the book, perhaps that's my reading. I've been thinking about existence a lot. My parents are getting old, I'm getting older, we all perish, and what happens then...

And time, where does it go when we are gone?

Anyway, well written book, I recommend it, but not if you're looking for an uplifting motivational book.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Raniere at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (pXbVS)

317 I love a good, long read. Haven't done a short story in years.


Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (Tyii7)



I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (lwiT4)

318 An underrated Ayn Rand novel is her first one, "We the Living". It's about a young woman living in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. Since she escaped from the Soviet Union in the 1920s, she said many years later that it was as close as she would ever come to writing an autobiography.
Once she emigrated to the West, she had trouble getting it published. One publisher told her that she really didn't understand Communism.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (sdi6R)

Excellent book. Shows how the communists kept creeping their nonsense into every aspect of her life until she had to try and get out.

Her description of the commie buttkissers and hacks would fit right in with those in DC today.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (EoRCO)

319 Speaking of Lambs, Silence of the Lambs was good.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (bUjCl)

320 If you want short and lucid read no book by Neal Stephenson. Snow Crash or The Diamond Age or Zodiac may, repeat, may be exceptions.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (hyuyC)

321 >>Her best work was Head in a Box.

Gwyneth did it better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (/tuJf)

322 rickl- I loved "We the Living", but it's so heartbreaking, it's the most intimate tale of the communist take over. Her family worked so hard all their lives and the commies take it all away. Her sister can only use her art for propaganda purposes. Everyone's privacy and possessions are taken away bit by bit. They all live in fear and hunger. Thank God Ayn Rand escaped even though her heroine doesn't.

Posted by: Velveteen Mongoose at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (4YHTV)

323
If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (dEQP3)



Dorothy Sayers is a jewel.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (lwiT4)

324 Dracula starts slow, but gets very exciting half way through. I didn't like Frankenstein.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (fp1LP)

325 I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (lwiT4)


You can read them again the same day.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (y87Qq)

326 I keep a copy of Great American Short Stories for those times when I am burnt out on "literature".

Posted by: Mary Harmon at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (gq8vW)

327 >>>Ferdinand the Bull

i loved that when i was little.
all he wanted to do was sit under the tree and smell the flowers.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (Tm+wy)

328 Id like to read The Idiot
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (IDhUW)
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Dreams from my Father? Or Audacity of Hope?
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:49 PM
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Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (Ri0Ku)

329
Always wanted to read "fear and loathing in Las Vegas" but never did. Don't know why I wanted to or why I never did.
You can always go with a short conservative classic like Fahrenheit 451.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (r+sAi)

330 Everything I Needed to Know About Life I Learned From Reading Earnest Hemingway:

1) Chicks Dig Bull Fighters
2) Sharks - fuckin' sharks
3) The exact moment you become really happy, your wife might blow your brains out.
4) Gangrene is bad.
5) You can use your horse as one big sandbag in a firefight
6) 'A Three Day Blow' isn't what you think it is.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 21, 2018 08:58 PM (sE69+)

331 One more thing about Dracula -
It's diary entries, so the formatting and breaks account for some of the length. It never feels like 400 pages to me.
Also... support Barnes and Noble if you have a choice! Their Nook has an Amazon reading app (the reverse isn't true), it's a nice tablet as well, and not run by Bezos the bozo, who has said he wants to take BN out.

(As an aside, I adapted the general 'idea' of Dracula and made it into an erotica book, although not solely diary style entries. Twas fun.)

Would also do Lovecraft, who I adore. "The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward" is creepy AF, also pretty short.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Gim9y)

332 Serious suggestion: Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

But probably a lot of people have read that. I've seen it listed as the most perfect novel in the English language.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (vDqXW)

333 The Art of War.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Xpw10)

334 I never read the abridged version of anything. Maybe back in high school when it's forced reading and no one cares. Forced reading sucks it just takes all the joy out of anything.

Having said that boy some of those unabridged novels are daunting. War and Peace. Les Miserables. The Count of Monte Cristo. But man oh man they're so worth it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (4ErVI)

335 If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (dEQP3)
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Ooh, I love Dorothy Sayers' mystery books. They are so well-written and complex that they take me longer to digest than other mystery writers though.

She has some good short stories too. Have you read the one about the multiple Peter Wimseys?

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (JJZzu)

336 from the last thread becuase this is all gay bullshit we're dealing with. Trump should pretty much say this is the end of Mueller. He's been harassing everyone who has ever associated with trump with the sole intent of intimidating them into being composing witnesses.

Trump's near 50% and he's got unprecedented black support.

There's no blue wave and 1% of people care about Russia.

Time to fuck this shit and go after Mueller for professional dishonesty (which is a federal crime, you know) and the clintons because fuck them.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (GoLZO)

337 What about Robert Howard's "Conan the Conqueror" also called "Hour of the Dragon"? It is a novel length Conan story. Should be a lot of fun. There is a 99 cent Kindle version.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (V+03K)

338 Most Overrated Band of all Time?


That's actually a hard question. Even bands I don't like who were enormously popular can't really be called overrated, since they were enormously popular.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (sdi6R)

339 harry by the sea is by far, the best!

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Tm+wy)

340 I hate all the negativity. I love the band Reckless Kelly.

Posted by: Muad'dib at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (NpK5V)

341 The author of Armor , John Steakley only wrote one other novel, Vampires which John Carpenter made into a semi crappy movie. Rather read that than Dracula.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (2DOZq)

342 I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?

Agreed. When I hit the recliner with a page turner, I'm lost to the rest of the world, hours on end.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (Tyii7)

343 A great read, but a long one, is Following the Equator by Mark Twain.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

344 Three Hearts and Three Lions by Poul Anderson is always fun. Puddinhead Wilson by Mark Twain was fun and short as I recall.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (T+Eka)

345 Heart of Darkness is a great novel in part because it is not written by a master of the English language. It is written by a Slav who came to England and wrote about what colonialism did to the English.

Think of Conrad as an early Naipaul or Rushdie and you would not be far off.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (N1ZXu)

346 Anything Cornell Woolrich wrote is good.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (4ErVI)

347 I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?


Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (lwiT4)


Try some good ones.

Posted by: Zombie Edgar Allen Poe at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (PFd3d)

348 The Count of Monte Cristo

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (AfYqV)

349 Is garrett here? No? Okay, don't tell him that I said the most over-rated band of all time is The Kinks.


j/k garrett. don't hunt me down.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (lwiT4)

350 I have no attention span for reading books because of the www.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (XMhQP)

351 Most overrated book , only IMHO, Confederacy of Dunces.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)

352 The Constitution is short read. It's almost fiction in this day and age.

Posted by: Infidel at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (pcnVL)


Hell ... the ability to tax Barter Whiskey ain't in there - but shit is what it is.

That document got shat on from about Day One.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (fiGNd)

353 A loonnnng time ago I read William F. Buckley's Blackford Oakes stories.

Didn't think much of them at the time.

But I was within five or six years of believing that Piers Anthony stories were good.

~ twitch ~

So I may reread the former - but never the latter.
_

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (sE69+)

354 If we're doing mysteries, how about Whose Body by Dorothy Sayers?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM


All Dorothy Sayers. The Wimsey short stories are most cromulent. The Nine Tailors, The Unpleasntness at the Bellona Club....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (mxvSl)

355 I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas back before I turned 29. It was hilarious.

The movie sucked.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (ptqGC)

356 JS, I think the Lockn D&C shows on Sat and Sun will be free on yt. Sunday will have Branford.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (PUmDY)

357 Tristram Shandy works
Posted by: CN
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I'd have to brush up on my Greek.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (xSo9G)

358 Short stories are often better than novels because the constraints force the author to be more focused.

Hemingway's shorts are better than his novels.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (fuK7c)

359 Tarnsman of Gor.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (SgjGX)

360 harry by the sea is by far, the best!
Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (Tm+wy)
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Yes, I thought the seaweed was a good look for him.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:02 PM (JJZzu)

361 I was always a Prog Rock guy.
I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.
I was weird that way, I guess.
Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

362 She has some good short stories too. Have you read the one about the multiple Peter Wimseys?
Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (JJZzu)



Yup. I really love her works.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (dEQP3)

363 349: grammie, grammie, grammie. no way.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (KP5rU)

364 Short stories are great for walking-while-reading. I got through a lot of the There Will Be War collections that way.

Short stories are also good for one-and-done sessions like if you are curled up in bed with something to read. That was how I did Clark Ashton Smith.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (N1ZXu)

365 Any Michael Connelly - Bosch series.

Posted by: JudyNM at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (S64y2)

366 How about a fun mystery like The Big Sleep or Lady in the Lake by Raymond Chandler

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (T+Eka)

367 Duran Duran might be an overrated 80s band.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (XMhQP)

368 Gor was BDSM sex cults before they were cool.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (N1ZXu)

369 I like Stephen King's short stories. They made him a mint.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (GoLZO)

370 The Ransom of Red Chief
By O.Henry

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (bML9A)

371 Musically speaking, the Beatles music master was mostly Sir George Martin, notwithstanding the fab four's talents. Like the Beatles, Yoko not so much. Also musically speaking, really good music was made by LedZep, Chicago, AWB, Earth Wind and Fire, and just about all the Memphis and Mussel Shoals sidemen. Such can be said of Queen, Supertramp, ELO, and Alan Parsons Project. But as far as raw talent is concerned, those who rotated in and out of Steely Dan, the Dooby Brothers, Eagles and Allman Brothers were the best. Hopefully I have not pissed off too many of you. As a side note I and Mrs. E will be doing a duet featuring Glocks tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (zLDYs)

372 She has some good short stories too. Have you read the one about the multiple Peter Wimseys?



Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM


The Bibulous Business of the Matter of Taste? One of my personal favorites.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (mxvSl)

373 GW, glad you're kidding.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (PUmDY)

374 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

Posted by: Patrick C Carroll at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (kFQIb)

375 >>>"fear and loathing in Las Vegas"

Peaches sent me that, and i read it in one day.
pretty trippy.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (Tm+wy)

376 349: grammie, grammie, grammie. no way.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (KP5rU)



I know. I was just trying to irritate garrett. Irritating people is one of my best qualities.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (lwiT4)

377 A great read, but a long one, is Following the Equator by Mark Twain.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Hmm. How about 'A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (CDGwz)

378 I think I have the entire Readers Digest condensed books library.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (2DOZq)

379 I have no attention span for reading books because of the www.

--
Depends - mood maybe. If I get sucked into the book, I am transported away, to another reality, and read it start to finish. (Take me away Calgon!)

Sometimes I hit a point in the book where I have to call timeout to decompress. Returning to reality is jarring - perceptions changed, outlook, goals, all different.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (I9Sw7)

380 Sayers and Silva are both good.

Naio Marsh is a good mystery writer.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (IDhUW)

381 351 Most overrated book , only IMHO, Confederacy of Dunces.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)


Holy crap, yes. Got about ten pages in and adios. Read like a shitty 70's sitcom.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (NLLmE)

382 BumperStickerist

Fist-bump on the Blackford Oakes stories. I got a favorite name for a character from one of them; Immer Smith.

Much better than Anthony's Xanth stories or whatever he was punning about.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (hyuyC)

383 Some of "The Canterbury Tales" in the original Middle English. Snort and guffaw worthy they are. Lewd and crude.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (jm1YL)

384 Since we're talking about good reads ...

AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (fiGNd)

385 I was always a Prog Rock guy.
I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.
I was weird that way, I guess.
Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)
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Yeah, prog has been my favorite as well. Weird when I read your post, I had In a Glass House running as an earworm.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (vDqXW)

386 374 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.
Posted by: Patrick C Carroll at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (kFQIb)



Oooh good ideer.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (NLLmE)

387 Zane Grey


Somebody was reading it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (1g7ch)

388 Serious suggestion: Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.
But probably a lot of people have read that. I've seen it listed as the most perfect novel in the English language.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:59 PM (vDqXW)

Hated that book. Conrad is boring, dark and guilt ridden. The one about the sea captain whatever ever put me to sleep so many times I can't even remember the name of the novel.

I hope "Heart of Darkness II: Farm House Boogaloo" about the current farm confiscations in South Africa is better.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (EoRCO)

389 I went through a period where I was reading anything about the sea.

Far Tortuga by Peter Matthiessen and The Story of a Shipwrecked Sailor by Gabriel Garcia Marquez were good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (ptqGC)

390 The Innocents Abroad
By Mark Twain

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (bML9A)

391 Nothing about the 80s can be overrated. That decade was too much fun.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (XMhQP)

392 I hang my head in shame - CONAN! Tower of the Elephant is a favourite, it's novella length IIRC.

Also, don't recall who hates short stories but Bradbury's "The Sun Dome" is amazing, and so is, "The Man" I think, which made me cry. Wow. (About a space explorer who ends up becoming friendly with the inhabitants on another world, and the man who he is going to listen to is... but I won't reveal. Powerful story.)
And "The Veldt"!!!

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (Gim9y)

393 I was always a Prog Rock guy.
I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.
I was weird that way, I guess.
Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

I'm a big prog fan but wasn't able to get into Gentle Giant. What do you recommend from them that you consider their best work?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (4ErVI)

394

A couple of days ago, I ran across the strangest band I've seen in a while, Bela's Bartok. IIRC, they bill themselves as circus punk. The songs I've heard sound like power polka (and if there wasn't such a thing as that before, there is now.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypq2j7clREk

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (HaL55)

395 Neal Stephenson actually wrote one short story that comes to mind, and it's actually pretty good: Jipi and the Paranoid Chip. It doesn't feel like anything's missing just because he had to cut a few hundred thousand pages out of his usual format.

https://vanemden.com/books/neals/jipi.html

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (y87Qq)

396 The Bibulous Business of the Matter of Taste? One of my personal favorites.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:04 PM (mxvSl)
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Man, you're good. I never would have remembered that.

I've read everything that our library has by her, but it's been a while.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (JJZzu)

397 >>I hate short stories. Won't read them. What's the point?

Good stories that you can finish in one sitting?
I can get obsessive if it's a good book, and stay up all night to read through to the end, so a short story doesn't have that risk.

Some good short stories: "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" and "I Am Legend."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (W+vEI)

398 Speaking of Memphis, Big Star were awesome.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (PUmDY)

399 I was always partial to Harry the Dirty Dog.
Posted by: bluebell

The Man in the Yellow Hat wants to have a word with you.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (S6Pax)

400 i think the grateful dead were overrated. they always reminded me of hippie excrement. or, a port o shitter. just damn, get to the point you meandering phucksticks.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (KP5rU)

401 Kidnapped! is good.
Want something short?
Catcher in the Rye, Animal Farm.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (3HNOQ)

402 Zane Grey


Somebody was reading it.




Me. It's awful.

It's got to be so awful that I'm reading it for the lulz.

I do not recommend. (Riders of the Purple Sage).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (fuK7c)

403 Lancelot, I have to say Confederacy Of Dunces captured N'Awlins of that period to a 't'. Yessir.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (zLDYs)

404 Big HAIR


And BIG cans of mousse.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (1g7ch)

405 381 351 Most overrated book , only IMHO, Confederacy of Dunces.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (2DOZq)

Holy crap, yes. Got about ten pages in and adios. Read like a shitty 70's sitcom.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (NLLmE)

I got a little farther because I was convinced it was going to get better since all I heard was how good it was. I only got half way .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (2DOZq)

406 Nothing about the 80s can be overrated. That decade was too much fun.

I'll say. It nearly did me in.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (Tyii7)

407 I'm a few chapters into "The Tourist," it's science fiction time travel, set in the U.K., the plot involving some smarties from a few centuries hence trying to track down a woman who slipped away from a period tour, into the muck and stench we call 2018 suburban London.

It opens with the protagonist in solitary confinement out there in 23-something.

Oh, and some kind of near-total-annihilation event is known to have occurred in the second half of our 21st.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (BvNr4)

408 I'm into newer music these days. I like Clean Bandit.

I really liked the cello player before all her plastic surgery.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (hyuyC)

409 Gentle Giant were enormously under rated.
Royal Academy of Arts alum.
All were multi instrumentalists.
Could play acoustic or amped up.
Fun stuff.
I'm sure they must have gone broke eventually.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (w7KSn)

410 49

Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)

The Beatles' importance to music and pop culture cannot be overstated. If you look at productivity and success, The Rolling Stones are definitely way more overrated than The Beatles, though I like both bands. The only advantage the Stones have is longevity but they really haven't released anything of value in 35+ years.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (rtfSu)

411 Naio Marsh is a good mystery writer.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 09:05 PM (IDhUW)
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Yep. Also Margery Allingham.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (JJZzu)

412 Some of "The Canterbury Tales" in the original Middle English. Snort and guffaw worthy they are. Lewd and crude.

Chaucer? un idiota plagiatore.

Posted by: giovanni boccaccio at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (N1ZXu)

413 Mozart was way, WAY overrated !

Posted by: Salieri at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (bUjCl)

414 The #1 Ladies Detective League by Andrew McCall Smith.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (Xpw10)

415 I'm a big prog fan but wasn't able to get into Gentle Giant. What do you recommend from them that you consider their best work?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM (4ErVI)
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In a Glass House is considered their best. Some people consider Octopus their best--but not me.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (vDqXW)

416 Not over-rated: The BeeGees.


I defy you to defy me.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (lwiT4)

417 403 Lancelot, I have to say Confederacy Of Dunces captured N'Awlins of that period to a 't'. Yessir.
Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (zLDYs)

Don't disagree about the imagery.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

418 The Dead sucks donkey balls. Horrible music.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (89T5c)

419 Given the civil war talk today, I will re read A Tale of Two Cities, and learn to knit.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (BvNr4)

420 A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn is fairly short, but definitely not fun. Fairly timely if the Progs take over. Life in the gulag system.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (T+Eka)

421
The #1 Ladies Detective League by Andrew McCall Smith.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (Xpw10)


Thanks for reminding me! Our travel agent just suggested the series. Because Africa.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (ptqGC)

422 You what is a really good mystery and has changed many a mind about Richard III? ''The Daughter of Time" by Josephine Tey. I think it's still listed as one of the 100 top mystery novels.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:10 PM (jm1YL)

423 The Beatles' importance to music and pop culture cannot be overstated.



Grammie rates this: Wholly True.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (lwiT4)

424 367 Duran Duran might be an overrated 80s band.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (XMhQP)

Might be, but luckily they aren't.

What killed their reputation was the overplaying of "The Reflex", which was just a meh song compared to their works to that point. But here's a band who, as early as their debut album, extolled the awesome themes of

Zombies
Porn Stars
Libertarianism

And managed to make it look cool and sleep with supermodels and jet around the world and make a ton of money, all with a nod to T. Rex and the great glam rockers. Really remarkable.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (xEt5a)

425 A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn is fairly short, but definitely not fun.


Oh, I would like to read that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (fuK7c)

426 321 >>Her best work was Head in a Box.

Gwyneth did it better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (/tuJf)

Spoiler alert!!! I just wish most of Paltrow's movies ended with that happening to her character. After all, has any character she's played really ever added anything of value to a movie?

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (rtfSu)

427 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (89T5c)

428 Random "Books I remember"

"One Very Hot Day" by David Halberstam - set in Vietnam, it's story about a patrol from a first person point of view.

"Red Ball in the Sky" - Charles Blair
Man flew a P51 from Norway to Alaska via the North Pole. This was 'back in the day'.

"Von Ryan's Express" - NOT THE MOVIE.

I'd be interested in a book-weenie's take on this because - to me - it was damn near perfect as a WWII prison escape story. (The movie blew chunks)

Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (sE69+)

429 The Ugly Russian
By Victor Lasky

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (bML9A)

430 Raw Talent by Jerry Butler.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (PFd3d)

431 I'm sure they must have gone broke eventually.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:08 PM (w7KSn)
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Derek Shulman became a music producer, and produced some major New Wave and Punk bands.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (vDqXW)

432
Most Overrated Band of all Time?

Alexander's Ragtime Band

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (IqV8l)

433
The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (89T5c)


I'll just sit here and wait for grammie's response.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (ptqGC)

434 The Pearl. The Old Man and the Sea. The Great Gatsby.


Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (3HNOQ)

435 In a Glass House is considered their best. Some people consider Octopus their best--but not me.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (vDqXW)

Thanks. I'll check it out.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (4ErVI)

436 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.


HERETIC!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (lwiT4)

437 >>Holy crap, yes. Got about ten pages in and adios. Read like a shitty 70's sitcom.



YES! I think I made it through about 20 pages.
Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (W+vEI)

438 Count of Monte Cristo. Or maybe Dune.

Posted by: cornbred at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (RtmFd)

439 Jeebus. 400 comments in, big (partially "fake") news day, Trumpenfuhrer holding a dark scary rally, and ..... thread is STILL on music and books? Some kind of AOSHQ record.


Get buzzion to make a notation in the archives.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (QDnY+)

440
A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn
=
talk about overrated ....

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (bUjCl)

441 I love Jules Verne but it has to be a good translation. There are a lot a bad ones that have been using the same shitty translation for a century.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (V+03K)

442 Zane Grey


Somebody was reading it.
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Me. It's awful.

It's got to be so awful that I'm reading it for the lulz.

I do not recommend. (Riders of the Purple Sage).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM

I'm going to guess it is a generational thing, like music.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (I9Sw7)

443 I'll just sit here and wait for grammie's response.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (ptqGC)



LOL You know me too well

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (lwiT4)

444 The BeeGees were a manifestation of the thirst for content, whatever it was, gotta fill the airwaves.
I never figured out how they sang so high...
Maybe I don't even want to know.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (w7KSn)

445 Not over-rated: The BeeGees.

I defy you to defy me.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:09 PM (lwiT4)

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No, you are correct. They did define music style for about a 5 year period. That's pretty significant.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (I16G8)

446 Good more recent bands: Chvrches, the Cloud Nothings, Matt and Kim, War on Drugs.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (T+Eka)

447 Jane. I was going to recommend it to you. You will so enjoy them. I think there are 5 or 6. Also you really need to see Duma. If you can't find it I will send you my copy.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (Xpw10)

448 An underrated prog rock band from the 70s was Renaissance. They were a British band, and I've read that they only became real popular in the States in the NYC and Philly areas, but not so much in the rest of the country. That was kind of odd.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (sdi6R)

449 whenever i hear the bee gees, i have to stop myself from sticking icepicks in my ears. that, or slitting my wrists. whatever is faster. they must be a group that only females get.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (KP5rU)

450 That stuff is horrid, grammie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (89T5c)

451 379. Actually did just almost finish a book - a bio of Paula Wolfert. Besides being a food pioneer she led a pretty interesting life. It moved me to learn more about Tangier, a Beats destination.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (XMhQP)

452 Donkey balls. Another The Expanse fan in here? Haven't read the books yet.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (Gim9y)

453 U2


That is all.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (rmyUw)

454 Music speaking, The Chieftains. Real Irish music.

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (jiGGU)

455 The Picture of Dorian Gray is fairly short iirc.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (Iccum)

456 Albert Camus's "The Stranger"
Strange short read.
Did you know that guillotines were NOT placed on a high platform?

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (3HNOQ)

457 That stuff is horrid, grammie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (89T5c)



oh no you dint

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (lwiT4)

458 ''A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn''

Had to read that in high school. Not going to do that one again.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (jm1YL)

459 Man, you're good. I never would have remembered that.



I've read everything that our library has by her, but it's been a while.



Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:07 PM


*buffs fingernails*


Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (mxvSl)

460 Jane. I was going to recommend it to you. You will
so enjoy them. I think there are 5 or 6. Also you really need to see
Duma. If you can't find it I will send you my copy.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:13 PM (Xpw10)


I have the books on a list of Things to Do before we leave. I don't know how much time I'll have to read on the trip (other than the loooong flight over and back), so I may buy them all.

Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (ptqGC)

461 Nike Rodgers produced some very fun 80s music.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (PUmDY)

462 Heart of Darkness is a great novel in part because it is not
written by a master of the English language. It is written by a Slav
who came to England and wrote about what colonialism did to the English.



Think of Conrad as an early Naipaul or Rushdie and you would not be far off.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (N1ZXu)


Surely you meant the horrors of a BELGIAN crown colony of the Congo.

British colonies had their own issues, but they tended to fall short of genocide and a colony wide death camp.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (2K6fY)

463 Music speaking, The Chieftains. Real Irish music.


Chieftans is bullshit, that guy with the beard and the melodic voice. It's fucking fifties.

Pogues. Full stop.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (fuK7c)

464 I was always a Prog Rock guy.

I loved Yes, Gentle Giant, others like those.

I was weird that way, I guess.

Unusual time signatures. You know, things other than four four.



Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:03 PM (w7KSn)



I'm a big prog fan but wasn't able to get into Gentle Giant. What do you recommend from them that you consider their best work?

Ditto. Even saw GG live with Yes in '75. I've always liked Power Glory, although In A Glass House usually gets the nods for originality/progginess. Free Hand is also approachable. I wouldn't put them in the big 8, but a lot would.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (RHEDC)

465 I've lost every hope and dream that I ever had. So, I'm listening to a lot of Mahler.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (l9m7l)

466 >>And managed to make it look cool and sleep with supermodels and jet around the world and make a ton of money, all with a nod to T. Rex and the great glam rockers. Really remarkable.



And they all are doing just fine, successful in other pursuits and intermittently getting together to make another album. None of them OD'd, went fabulously broke, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (W+vEI)

467 60s BeeGees or the disco version?

Posted by: everyone gonna drink my wine at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (DXorg)

468 That stuff is horrid, grammie.



Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (89T5c)

oh no you dint


Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:15 PM (lwiT4)


And it's on!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (ptqGC)

469 Technically Toto was a seventies band, but their biggest "hits" were in the eighties. I can't stand Rosanna and when listening to a classic rock station, I'll turn the channel and won't change it back! Africa has to be one of the most overrated songs of all time, along with that POS Come On Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Whatevers!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (v1udk)

470 I'm telling you The Daughter of Time'' is a good one. Not very long and would make for interesting discussions.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (jm1YL)

471 I've read that they only became real popular in the States in the NYC and Philly areas, but not so much in the rest of the country. That was kind of odd.
Posted by: rickl


Annie Haslam has a gorgeous voice.

She sang a version of "Turn of the Century" (A Yes song) that is on YouTube, and it is about the most sadly beautiful things I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQdgvowFH5g

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (S6Pax)

472 Thanks. I'll check it out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (4ErVI)
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I like everything from there and ending with the often-underrated The Interview (76). But I like their complete catalog as well.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (vDqXW)

473 People suggested "1984" and I love/hate it. I can sort of distance myself from all the shit that is happening to Winston until the rat scene. I can't read it, read it once, one of the few things in my reading career I have blocked from memory.

Re-read "Brave New World" a few years ago, still depressing.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (Gim9y)

474 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Posted by: lin-duh at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

475 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.

Even their early stuff? I can see if you are not into the disco but their 60's stuff was good.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (dUJdY)

476 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.

On of my favorite lines, altought in a different book of his, concerning a man hit with a bucket of water: "He immediately became, without any previous training or experience, the wettest man in Worchester".

Well, I liked it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (0dbnJ)

477 Your loss, Bandersnatch.

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (jiGGU)

478 449 whenever i hear the bee gees, i have to stop myself from sticking icepicks in my ears. that, or slitting my wrists. whatever is faster. they must be a group that only females get.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (KP5rU)

The Bee Gees really embodied the disco era. Whenever I hear their tunes from the "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack, there is definitely a feeling of nostalgia. I was young when that hit but I remember how big of a cultural phenomenon the soundtrack was and the Bee Gees were back then. Of course, that led to younger brother Andy Gibb releasing that piece of crap song "Shadow Dancing" in the late '70s so maybe the Bee Gees deserve to be attacked for contributing to that.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (rtfSu)

479 I'm telling you The Daughter of Time'' is a good one. Not very long and would make for interesting discussions.
Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (jm1YL)
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I just put it on hold at my library.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (JJZzu)

480 Now I want to play random keyboard mashing or Sigur Ros song titles.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (dEQP3)

481 I was always partial to Harry the Dirty Dog.
Posted by: bluebell

The Man in the Yellow Hat wants to have a word with you.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative.
==========

Pfft. 'The Poky Little Puppy'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (xSo9G)

482 60s BeeGees or the disco version?


Posted by: everyone gonna drink my wine at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (DXorg)



I like both. I love the pre-disco songs where they featured Maurice and Robin's voices more prominently - like in "I've Just Got to Get A Message to You". But I also like their Barry Gibbs-Disco stuff. What's not to love! It's all fun. And dance-y too.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (lwiT4)

483 Dexy's Midnight Runners is "Come on Eileen". I love 80's music trivia, btw, have over 1000 songs on mp3 alone. =)
So... "Dracula", head Ewok? ;-)

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (Gim9y)

484 Africa has to be one of the most overrated songs of all time

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (v1udk)


*glares*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (ptqGC)

485 "........... but obviously you can talk about whatever you want."


You realize, of course, that Huff Post and CNN.com have millions more hits every day, but can you talk about whatever you want on either of those sites?



Just one more reason that you are HERE.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (UsCnO)

486 Thurber short stories are fun and well told for the most part. I'd second Wodehouse, some are priceless. Maybe I just like the way they can paint such a visual.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (RHEDC)

487 One thing's a given. No matter what it is, if you confess to liking it at least one of us is going to say it sucks donkey balls. Should be added to the style guide.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

488 . I've always liked Power Glory, although In A Glass House usually gets the nods for originality/progginess. Free Hand is also approachable. I wouldn't put them in the big 8, but a lot would.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (RHEDC)
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What's your "big 8".

Definitely Yes. Definitely Crimson. Definitely Floyd. Genesis? Van der Graaf Generator?

Yeah, I put GG in that group.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (vDqXW)

489 436 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.


HERETIC!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (lwiT4)

I've got your back grammie.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

490 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.

On of my favorite lines, altought in a different book of his, concerning a man hit with a bucket of water: "He immediately became, without any previous training or experience, the wettest man in Worchester".

Well, I liked it.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (0dbnJ)
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I agree with all of the above.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (JJZzu)

491 I stumbled across this the other night. The Bee Gees performing "Blowing in the Wind" in 1963:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbVNNXjOzk

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (sdi6R)

492 Bane County: Forgotten Moon
By J.R.Rice

Available on Kindle

Not a werewolf story, very different. Really a horror story that takes off in the first chapter.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (bML9A)

493 One of the books on my TBR pile is Roger Casement, Traitor or Patriot. He was sent as an agent by an English society to the Belgian Congo to check on the rumored atrocities there. They were.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2018 09:20 PM (2K6fY)

494 #465
Thread winner!

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 09:20 PM (w7KSn)

495 I couldn't stand most 1980s music and I was a teenager for most of the decade. Kajagoogoo anyone? Give me a fucking break I couldn't listen to that crap.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (4ErVI)

496 Is Rambo considered a classic movie yet?

The author of First Blood, David Morrell, wrote a trilogy that is surprisingly good.

The Brotherhood of the Rose
The Fraternity of the Stone
The League of Night and Fog

Not a book club suggestion. Just a suggestion.

And Twisted Sister. WTF was that shit?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (wbRN9)

497 Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:18 PM (rtfSu)

The song Shadow Dancing sucked but I liked the rest of the album. I don't know why that was selected to be the hit. single .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (2DOZq)

498 >>...that POS Come On Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Whatevers!


Hell, yes!

And "Walking on Sunshine."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (W+vEI)

499 How can you mend a broken heart is a great song.


Bee Gees not over-rated. Fake news.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (NLLmE)

500 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.
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Eulalie

Posted by: Jeeves at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (CDGwz)

501 What's not to love! It's all fun. And dance-y too.

Best years of my life.. the late 70's. I had a blast. Hubby and I went out every Saturday night and drank and danced the night away.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (dUJdY)

502 ''I was always a Prog Rock guy. ''

I'm kind of in to the second iteration of King Crimson. As I get older my tastes are changing. Used to be a classical/opera babe almost exclusively. Love medieval music. Now I'm loving music I should have loved when I was in my twenties. Weird.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (jm1YL)

503 Overrated band...u2

Short, classic book....Old Man and the Sea, Hemmingway

Posted by: Milleveleigh at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (ChQD/)

504 The Cat in the Belfry, Doreen Tovey.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Xpw10)

505 And Twisted Sister. WTF was that shit?

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (wbRN9)
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Stuff earlier than their big break is not bad. Anything after they got popular. Gag.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (vDqXW)

506 The BeeGees really suck donkey balls. Horrible music.
==================================
HERETIC!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:12 PM (lwiT4)


How Deep Is Your Love is timeless.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (fiGNd)

507 Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (4ErVI)

Kind of goofy, but harmless. Personally I have a huge soft spot for "Tarzan Boy" by Baltimora and "Rock me Amadeus (German ver)" by Falco.

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Gim9y)

508 Best years of my life.. the late 70's. I had a blast. Hubby and I went out every Saturday night and drank and danced the night away.
Posted by: Jewells45

Were white polyester leisure suits involved?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Iccum)

509 Well, before I get stabby over music, I guess I'll head off and get some reading done.


Ya'll behave. Grammie, try not to hurt anyone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (ptqGC)

510 never was into disco music. never went into a disco. the good thing about disco was, all the posers went there. the gritty rock clubs weren't full of phucktards then. good times.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (KP5rU)

511 So, I am at the bowling alley and it hits me.
Hell would be having to listen to all that crap music from 60s/70s/80s for the rest of eternity.

Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (3HNOQ)

512 that POS Come On Eileen by Dexie's Midnight Whatevers!

Hell, yes!

And "Walking on Sunshine."
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM (W+vEI)

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Blargh!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (I16G8)

513 Early Bee Gees wasn't bad. I started a joke and Massachusetts I liked.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (v1udk)

514
I stumbled across this the other night. The Bee Gees performing "Blowing in the Wind" in 1963:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjbVNNXjOzk

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (sdi6R)



Oh my gosh - look how little they are!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (lwiT4)

515 ''P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode. ''

Anything Wodehouse would be fun, fun, fun.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (jm1YL)

516 476 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.

On of my favorite lines, altought in a different book of his, concerning a man hit with a bucket of water: "He immediately became, without any previous training or experience, the wettest man in Worchester".

Well, I liked it.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (0dbnJ)

You might enjoy Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K. Jerome. There are scenes in that book where I had tears rolling down my cheeks I was laughing so hard. He wrote a sequel that isn't as good but still has its moments (like when they go to Germany and he's describing how much Germans love rules).

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (4ErVI)

517 "From hell's heart, I stab at thee!"

Posted by: Capt. Ahab, aka Rachel Maddow at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (9X60i)

518 Posted by: Willowed JAS at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (3HNOQ)

Set to the characters of Sartre's "No Exit"? =)

Posted by: atomicplaygirl, now with more Kaboom! at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (Gim9y)

519 Ya'll behave. Grammie, try not to hurt anyone.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 09:23 PM (ptqGC)



Well shoot, Jane.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (lwiT4)

520 449 whenever i hear the bee gees, i have to stop myself from sticking
icepicks in my ears. that, or slitting my wrists. whatever is faster.
they must be a group that only females get.


Hard to believe they started out as a bad Moody Blues knock-off, semi prog outfit. They even had a few semi-hits back in the late 60's early 70's. Anybody remember "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart?" The poor bastards were at it for a decade before they discovered the falsetto and disco. The rest is as they say...

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (RHEDC)

521 I remember my Ma hounding my Pop to get a leisure suit. Gotta hand it to the old man, he would.not.budge.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (Tyii7)

522 Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey is fantastic. Haven't read it for years.

Favorite band from early 70s is Blood, Sweat and Tears. Favorite from the late 70s is Heart. Favorite solo performer is Barry Manilow 's Paradise Cafe, Swing Street, Swinging With The Big Bands, a nd the Broadway album. Not just his performances but he really shines with those arrangements.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (V+03K)

523 I could handle Ace does Neil Gaiman.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (Xpw10)

524 Were white polyester leisure suits involved?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (Iccum)

LOL! Thankfully no! I would not have let him out of the house! I did have some pretty nice dresses though. Pretty swirly skirts perfect for all those dance moves.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (dUJdY)

525 Hard to believe they started out as a bad Moody Blues knock-off, semi prog outfit. They even had a few semi-hits back in the late 60's early 70's. Anybody remember "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart?" The poor bastards were at it for a decade before they discovered the falsetto and disco. The rest is as they say...

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2018 09:24 PM (RHEDC)
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I remember "Nights on Broadway" which I don't hate.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (vDqXW)

526 >>Well shoot, Jane.



Phew! The comma saved Jane!!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (W+vEI)

527 Billy Idol was fun 80s music.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (PUmDY)

528 Best Band that wasn't trying to copy anybody? Boston.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

529 Well shoot, Jane.

Phew! The comma saved Jane!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (W+vEI)
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Wish it would have saved grandma.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (vDqXW)

530


https://biblioklept.org/2010/12/14/huxley-vs-orwell-the-webcomic/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (IqV8l)

531 >>Bee Gees not over-rated. Fake news.

Al Green better. Fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgAFcvIw8J4

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 09:26 PM (/tuJf)

532 Hell would be having to listen to all that crap music from 60s/70s/80s for the rest of eternity.

Posted by: Willowed JAS

"Hell is Andy Gibb singing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons. And you have to wear orange-plaid bellbottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. 'Hi fellas. This is gonna suck!'"
Denis Leary

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (Iccum)

533 Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:19 PM (Tyii7)

===

No love for "You're a fag and your sh*t's all retarded"?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (EZebt)

534 You guys all have great taste in music, such great opinions. Except that one commenter up the thread a ways. They can go right to hell.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (fp1LP)

535 Anything Wodehouse would be fun, fun, fun.
Posted by: Tuna
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I could reread a Wodehouse. Something funny would be a nice change. Problem with the Wooster books is that it's really necessary to read them in order, kinda.

Posted by: Jeeves at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (CDGwz)

536 Know what part of Walking On Sunshine got me? Them damn red Converses.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (zLDYs)

537 Less Than Zero is what I'm throwing in that hat for the book club.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (sFofr)

538 Two non-classics, but very fun reads:

Angela's Ashes

&

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (JJ9bx)

539 Catch-22

That is all.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (rmyUw)

540 >>Hell would be having to listen to all that crap music from 60s/70s/80s for the rest of eternity.



That scene in "P.C.U" where the administrators and snobby donors are locked in a room with "Afternoon Delight" cranked up to '11' on repeat...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (W+vEI)

541 No love for "You're a fag and your sh*t's all retarded"?


I think that one's already been enshrined.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (Tyii7)

542 98 Most Overrated Band of all Time? Beatles.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:23 PM (qul7b)



I do believe we're going to have a problem here.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:27 PM (lwiT4)

grammie, I have your back on this one. While I, like you, were very young, we were there. We saw our older brothers and sisters go nuts for many years with the Beatles albums time after time. We saw the confused responses on the faces of our parents.

It was crazy. Unlike any other musician, except maybe Elvis. A comparison would be the excitement at a Trump rally vs. a Maxine Waters rally.


And Beatles songs have been covered by more artists than any other musicians. Ever.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (UsCnO)

543 Best Band that wasn't trying to copy anybody? Boston.
Posted by: Lancelot Link
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Uh, oh...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (CDGwz)

544 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (dUJdY)

545 532
"Hell is Andy Gibb singing Shadow Dancing for eons and eons. And you have to wear orange-plaid bellbottoms and sit next to the Bay City Rollers. 'Hi fellas. This is gonna suck!'"
Denis Leary
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:27 PM (Iccum)


OK, the Bay City Rollers could be a candidate for most overrated band. I'm old enough to remember when they were supposed to be the second coming of the Beatles.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (sdi6R)

546 536 Know what part of Walking On Sunshine got me? Them damn red Converses.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:28 PM (zLDYs)

That group won the Eurovision years later. Sometime in the 1990s I think. Can't remember how I learned that because other than Walking on Sunshine I never heard of them again.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (4ErVI)

547 And come on ... really ... nobody else ever shagged to Love So Right ?

This Bee Gee hate shit is started to look like the classic Virtue Signal to me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd)

548 >>> An underrated Ayn Rand novel is her first one, "We the Living". It's about a young woman living in the Soviet Union of the 1920s. Since she escaped from the Soviet Union in the 1920s, she said many years later that it was as close as she would ever come to writing an autobiography.

Once she emigrated to the West, she had trouble getting it published. One publisher told her that she really didn't understand Communism.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM
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^^^^
THIS

I read that book when I was 15. I went to Yugoslavia 4 months later. These two things planted the seeds that made this atheist commie teen a conservative. Much like the movie The Lives of Others, it brings a totalitarian state right down to the most personal level. You can feel what it's like to live in that world.

Posted by: Been Awhile at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (4fmLd)

549 Angela's Ashes --- Fun???

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (lwiT4)

550 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for

the character of Roderick Spode.

------------



Eulalie

Posted by: Jeeves at August 21, 2018 09:21 PM


Heil, Spode!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (mxvSl)

551 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (Tyii7)

552 Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Yeah, I know (or knew) a couple of people in that one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (CDGwz)

553 Just finishing up A River Runs Through It. Short and a good read. Lonesome Dove if you want something longer, an excellent book though

Posted by: Steve at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (ET4ds)

554 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Yep.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (Tyii7)
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Yep. Definitely overrated.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (vDqXW)

555 I was having a discussion the other day about songs most well known from their opening bars. In other words, instantaneously recognizable.
Mind you this is easy to confuse with "well known songs" but it's an interesting discussion. The first one off the top of my head was:
My Girl

Posted by: Mega at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (uEbPt)

556 "And Beatles songs have been covered by more artists than any other musicians. Ever. "

My house is wonderful. It's been fixed by more repairmen than any house I've ever lived in.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (fp1LP)

557 Hemingway. There is a book collection of his reporting stories. By Line Earnest Hemingway.
Some funny stuff, some way too serious stuff. It's not a bad collection and while he gets more preach-y as he goes on, some of the scenes are very real.
A Few Acres of Snow, by Robert Leckie
How the French lost Canada. I have it in hardback so 387 pages.

Posted by: Winston at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (wgCUV)

558 ''grammie, I have your back on this one. While I, like you, were very young, we were there. We saw our older brothers and sisters go nuts for many years with the Beatles albums time after time. We saw the confused responses on the faces of our parents.

It was crazy. Unlike any other musician, except maybe Elvis. A comparison would be the excitement at a Trump rally vs. a Maxine Waters rally.


And Beatles songs have been covered by more artists than any other musicians. Ever. ''

You had to be there to understand The Beatles.. I'm a boomer and I was there. My gawd, they kind of changed everything. What we heard from them was just so, so different. It's hard to explain.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (jm1YL)

559 Not over-rated: The BeeGees

The fact that men who sing like women are even rated means they're over rated.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (ZYcR0)

560 Supertramp
Little River Band
Robert Palmer
Kansas
Styxx
Boston

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (dUJdY)

561 Beach Boys... I still love their music.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:29 PM (dUJdY)



Oh yeah. They have their own channel on Sirius XM. We went and saw them last summer at the Wisconsin State Fair. Only Mike Love was an original there.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (lwiT4)

562 Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Posted by: lin-duh at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (kufk0)

Highly readable.
Short.
A true classic in every sense.

We have a winner!

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (xEt5a)

563 It took a second for me to realize why Archer's man servant was named Wodehouse.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (2DOZq)

564 522 Favorite band from early 70s is Blood, Sweat and Tears.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (V+03K)

My wife and I are actually going to see Blood, Sweat and Tears in concert in a couple of weeks. We go to see a lot of musical artists that are way past their heyday and only have 1-2 original members. It's going to be pretty sad for us in the next 10 years when pretty much all the artists from the 1960s, '70s, and '80s have retired or died since that's pretty much the only music we listen to nowadays.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (rtfSu)

565 >>I read that book when I was 15. I went to Yugoslavia 4 months later. These two things planted the seeds that made this atheist commie teen a conservative. Much like the movie The Lives of Others, it brings a totalitarian state right down to the most personal level. You can feel what it's like to live in that world.


"The Book of Laughter and Forgetting" by Milan Kundera (or any of his novels except "Immortality").

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (W+vEI)

566 The. Beach Boys was my very first concert with my first real girlfriend. Had the time of my life!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (v1udk)

567 Yep. Definitely overrated.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (vDqXW)

You just shut your pie hole!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (dUJdY)

568 559 Not over-rated: The BeeGees

The fact that men who sing like women are even rated means they're over rated.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 21, 2018 09:32 PM (ZYcR0)

Why so crotchety?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (2DOZq)

569 You had to be there to understand The Beatles.. I'm a
boomer and I was there. My gawd, they kind of changed everything.
What we heard from them was just so, so different. It's hard to
explain.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:31 PM (jm1YL)



Exactly. There was a Before. And then there was After. Hard to explain indeed.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (lwiT4)

570 Great Beach Boys cover: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yapr293v

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (Tyii7)

571 Grammie- I got How Deep is Your Love on now.





Sorry.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (89T5c)

572 And come on ... really ... nobody else ever shagged to Love So Right ?

This Bee Gee hate shit is started to look like the classic Virtue Signal to me.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (fiGNd)

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Hells yeah I did! There exists a picture of me in full Saturday night attire. Black Rayon paisley shirt, white courdoroys, black lifter shoes, gold chain with a medal, feathered hair and aviator glasses.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (I16G8)

573 So, Steve, how did you like Brokeback Mountan? Sorry, I just had to.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:33 PM (zLDYs)

574 Really ? How Can You Mend A Broken Heart ?

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

575 Angela's Ashes --- Fun???

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:30 PM (

.....

While the subject matter can be a bit depressing, the writing isn't because McCourt has an uncanny ability to recall and write from his age perspective.

It's a horrible tale but told from a kids mind, which is much more innocent.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (JJ9bx)

576 There doesn't seem to be a consensus emerging for the book choice.



Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (xSo9G)

577 Earth, Wind, and Fire.

That is all.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (0dbnJ)

578 In high school I forced .myself through the whole Dune series. I was a looser geek.

Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (0OmEj)

579 That's too bad grammie. Good Lord I would have loved to see them live.

Oh and one more... The Eagles.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (dUJdY)

580 re: We The Living:
It isn't the slog of a read that Atlas Shrugged can be, where you're pulled out of the story for political soliloquys. It's good.

Posted by: Been Awhile at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (4fmLd)

581 Russell's teapot

Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.

Posted by: SMOD at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (e8kgV)

582 I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".

A walking rock-n-roll encyclopedia once told me that.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)

583 Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)
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I think I'm going to enshrine this for posterity. Maybe I'll needlepoint a pillow with it or something.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (JJZzu)

584 >>Yeah, I know (or knew) a couple of people in that one.

Now that sounds like a good story.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (/tuJf)

585 There doesn't seem to be a consensus emerging for the book choice.
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My book buying budget is blown all to hell and gone.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (I9Sw7)

586 P.G. Wodehouse-- The Code of the Woosters. If only for
the character of Roderick Spode.




John Turner, who played him in Jeeves and Wooster series always cracked me up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (SiINZ)

587 This is short, and will blow you away. "Anthem", by Ayn Rand

Posted by: Born Free at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (tWOmK)

588
In high school I forced .myself through the whole Dune series. I was a looser geek.
Posted by: Usntakim profoundly deplorable


Come on and tighten up!

Posted by: Archie Bell at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (IqV8l)

589
426 321 >>Her best work was Head in a Box.

Gwyneth did it better.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:57 PM (/tuJf)

Spoiler alert!!! I just wish most of Paltrow's movies ended with that happening to her character. After all, has any character she's played really ever added anything of value to a movie?
Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:11 PM (rtfSu)


The plague movie where she was the cheating wife of Matt Damon! and dies horribly of a super strain of influenza always cheers me up if I happen to come across it (I don't look for it, that's for certain).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (pNxlR)

590 Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)



It is an odd ...... juxtaposition.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (lwiT4)

591 Russell's teapot

Posted by: SMOD at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (e8kgV)
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Also, Russell's bad analogy.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (vDqXW)

592 ''Oh and one more... The Eagles.''

Only before Randy Meisner quit. They never let him sing enough.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (jm1YL)

593 Mark Levin making sense about this crap on Hannity.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:36 PM (hECVl)

594 There's always We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
https://bit.ly/2gBk3EF

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (JKNZq)

595 I am reading Osprey Books Campaign Series #273, Point Pleasant. It is a short sweet and directly factual account of Lord Dunmore's War, the forgotten pre-Revolution campaign that opened the Ohio River valley and its tributaries to American settlement. Many of the men who were officers in it played prominent roles in the later War of Independence and the settling of Kentucky and Tennessee.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+kMI)

596 For something completely different: "Hot Zone" by Richard Preston

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+vEI)

597 Been Awhile, The Lives of Others should be a must see movie.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (Xpw10)

598 Really ? How Can You Mend A Broken Heart ?

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

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You aren't alone.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (I16G8)

599 Uh, oh. Red Sox gettin' on the board.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (Tyii7)

600 582 I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".

A walking rock-n-roll encyclopedia once told me that.
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)

Not a beatle fan though I don't hate them but I don't believe that claim. Their catalogue is too big to think they had to rip off somebody else. And unless there are Brian Wilson songs I haven't heard , I haven't heard any similarities.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (2DOZq)

601 Book Club. Tough problem. Not a long book. Not obtuse, reasonably simple to read. And worth some discussion.

I can't come up with the perfect thing, so I will instead nominate two of my favorites.

Drawing of the Dark. Tim Powers, one of my favorite authors. The "Dark" in the title is dark beer. The book is set in the 1400s or 1500s, built around the Muslim siege of Vienna. There is a supernatural element. The protagonist, Brian Duffy, an Irish mercenary, could easily be a moron.

Before Midnight Rex Stout, one of my other favorite authors. It's a Nero Wolfe book. Great interplay between Wolfe and Archie, a crazy 40's version of an SJW chick, and the center of the whole thing is a maneuver by Wolfe that is hinted at by the title, and only explained at the end.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (Vb4BV)

602 For something completely different: "Hot Zone" by Richard Preston
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+vEI)


That is the single most terrifying book I've ever read.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (dEQP3)

603 574

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)

This comment would be the best epitaph to inscribe on a tombstone. I have to come up with something like that for mine. Might as well make people chuckle when they visit the cemetery.

Posted by: Slappy at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (rtfSu)

604 Two non-classics, but very fun reads:

Angela's Ashes



Fun? Are you on drugs?

Now, I loved Angela's Ashes. Folks are from the Old Sod and such. But fun?

That was so bleak. I remember that my kids were young. I was trying to be the good dad and make them eat healthy food, but when I was reading Angela's Ashes and they wanted chocolate covered cookie cereal with icing and sugar I said yes, anything you want lads.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (fuK7c)

605 Lolita. Can't go wrong with Nabokov.

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (/qEW2)

606 "Murders In the Rue Morgue."

From whence modern detective fiction came.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (WEBkv)

607 590 Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (fiGNd)



It is an odd ...... juxtaposition.
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The BeeGees had many hits before they rode the disco wave to riches, and Barry was still making money a decade later from writing and duets. It's alright to be a guy who likes them.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (W+kMI)

608 So, any decision yet in the Manafort trial?

In other news, I got the A/C working in my '08 Suburban for the first time since I've owned it, so I am good to go to AZ next month.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (LI7AQ)

609 Now that sounds like a good story.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Dark. Spooky dark.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (xSo9G)

610 "Murders In the Rue Morgue."

From whence modern detective fiction came.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at August 21, 2018 09:39 PM (WEBkv)
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It's a novella.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (vDqXW)

611 Anyone watching Mark Levin on Hannity. He's explaining why what Cohen plead guilty to was NOT a crime.

Wonder if Cohen is watching...hahaha.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (Enq6K)

612 Been Awhile, The Lives of Others should be a must see movie.

Rented that a few years back. I believe I heard Rush mention it so we thought why not? Good grief.. depressing as hell, but yeah a must see. Especially now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (dUJdY)

613 Book idea: Try Tarzan. But you have to read the first two books to complete the story. (Of course ERB then wrote 20+ sequels...)

Posted by: Makatta at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (a4Ra5)

614 Africa has to be one of the most overrated songs of all time...
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:16 PM (v1udk)

Obviously you are a communist and we have a helicopter waiting on the pad just for you.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (J70i0)

615 Never cared for the Bee Gees. If I wanted to hear falsetto, the Four Seasons were better.

Posted by: JTB at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (V+03K)

616 In other news, I got the A/C working in my '08 Suburban for the first time since I've owned it, so I am good to go to AZ next month.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Prediction: Early Autumn, abnormally low temperatures.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (xSo9G)

617 >>That is the single most terrifying book I've ever read.


Oh yeah. I read after working in Reston, VA - killed me wondering where the monkey business took place.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (W+vEI)

618 Too Much Heaven ... a classic.

Fuck it. Too Hell with you all. Here's my man card. Take the damn thing. I don't want the piece of shit anyway.

They had good songs - the disco shit was better than most - and they had really good ballads.

I'm going to kick the dogs now.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (fiGNd)

619 And unless there are Brian Wilson songs I haven't heard , I haven't heard any similarities.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 09:38 PM (2DOZq)



Not a direct rip-off, but Paul listened to "God Only Knows", loved it, and wanted to write a love song just as wistful as that. "Here, There and Everywhere" was the result.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (lwiT4)

620 I would vote for one of the Poe novellas.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (J70i0)

621
A Canticle for Fawn Leibowitz (That Minx!)


Humbly offered ... (har)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (pNxlR)

622 AtC, if 'Hot Zone' terrified you, Ima gitin' it asap.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (zLDYs)

623 Oh yeah. I read after working in Reston, VA - killed me wondering where the monkey business took place.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (W+vEI)
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*cough*

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (JJZzu)

624 Been Awhile, The Lives of Others should be a must see movie.

Rented that a few years back. I believe I heard Rush mention it so we thought why not? Good grief.. depressing as hell, but yeah a must see. Especially now.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (dUJdY)



As I keep telling the Left, The Lives of Others is not an instructional film.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (dEQP3)

625 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Xpw10)

626 Prediction: Early Autumn, abnormally low temperatures.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (xSo9G)

Just send the checks to Peon Industries, LLC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (LI7AQ)

627
"The Book of Laughter and Forgetting" by Milan Kundera (or any of his novels except "Immortality").



Oh yes. Laughable Loves was my first, then Lightness of Being.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (fuK7c)

628 620 I would vote for one of the Poe novellas.
Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (J70i0)


We did that, no?

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Vb4BV)

629 Honestly? A fun quick yet informative read are the Rush Revere 'Time travels through history' children's book series! MAGA

Posted by: TheFoundersParty at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (QAVtQ)

630 Anyone watching Mark Levin on Hannity. He's explaining why what Cohen plead guilty to was NOT a crime.

Wonder if Cohen is watching...hahaha.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (Enq6K)
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I would him to come in and clean up the DOJ.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (hECVl)

631 About the books, how does a mystery sound? Everyone should refrain from reading the final chapter before the initial discussion, so we can compare notes on who we think he culprit is and what clues are significant. Then, a couple of days later, have a final discussion after reading the author's solution.

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (1Fa/H)

632 Anyone watch "Muscle Shoals"? The guys down there definitely had an influence on pop music.

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (cSfOv)

633 587 This is short, and will blow you away. "Anthem", by Ayn Rand
Posted by: Born Free at August 21, 2018 09:35 PM (tWOmK)


Seconded. That's a good one. A novella, maybe 150 pages or so.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (sdi6R)

634 625 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Xpw10)


Oh. Encyclopedia Brown? Harry Potter?

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (Vb4BV)

635 568>> Because there are so many other bands that made far better music and didn't try to sound like women doing it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (ZYcR0)

636 AtC, if 'Hot Zone' terrified you, Ima gitin' it asap.
Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (zLDYs)



It's a non-fiction work. That's what makes it so terrifying.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (dEQP3)

637 >>*cough*

Posted by: bluebell




Have you read Hot Zone???

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (W+vEI)

638 I just plowed through a The Rabbi Small series of books in the last couple of weeks.

A Jewish friend of mine died and told his wife to give them to me even though I hadn't seen him in years, so she gave them to me at his funeral.

They were a blast! Simple mystery books, but with a real injection of Jewish religious philosophy and culture interspersed throughout. They weren't taxing on the brain, but were strangely addictive.

Sometimes I like books that I don't have to make myself read, but actually like reading.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (JJ9bx)

639 Levin on fire.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (p+zZ8)

640 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Xpw10)

Perhaps Ace is younger than 29.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (DzFIB)

641 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (PFd3d)

642 >>Dark. Spooky dark.

Now I definitely want to hear it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (/tuJf)

643 Also reading "A Country of Vast Designs" by Robert W. Merry. It is about President Polk and his term, which saw the USA truly reach from sea to shining sea, pissed off Establishment politicians, and made New England liberals' heads explode. The more things change.... Fun fact: I learned Polk's political nickname was "Young Hickory, as he was a protege of Andrew Jackson. At his inauguration supporters in the parade carried freshly cut hickory branches.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (W+kMI)

644 596 For something completely different: "Hot Zone" by Richard Preston
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:37 PM (W+vEI)

Classic.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (sFofr)

645 I'd rather read one of ERB's Martian books, like the Gods of Mars. But the real Tarzan books are interesting and nothing like the movies.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (JKNZq)

646 Obviously you are a communist and we have a helicopter waiting on the pad just for you.

Name one good thing about that song. The lyrics?The vocals? You can't even dance to that crap. Other than it's not Come on Eileen, I can't think of anything redeemable about that song.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (v1udk)

647 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
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I had read everything Zane Grey wrote before puberty.
What's your point?

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (I9Sw7)

648 ''Oh yes. Laughable Loves was my first, then Lightness of Being''

A young Daniel Day Lewis in "The Lightness of Being"'. Yikes, he was good looking.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (jm1YL)

649

Can't believe I'm the dude defending the Bee Gees here.


Their pre-disco era was teh shiznit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (HaL55)

650 630 Anyone watching Mark Levin on Hannity. He's explaining why what Cohen plead guilty to was NOT a crime.

Wonder if Cohen is watching...hahaha.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:40 PM (Enq6K)
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I would him to come in and clean up the DOJ.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (hECVl)

Oh if only!

He was bashing Lanny Davis, "You had your client plead guilty...and there was NO crime. Idiot."

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (Enq6K)

651 If we go the mystery route, we might want to forego Agatha Christie, as I think I have already read most of her novels. Maybe a Mickey Spillane?

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (1Fa/H)

652 582
I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have
heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's
recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".



A walking rock-n-roll encyclopedia once told me that.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)


I think it was Donovan who got the Beatles into the flower child stuff.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (PFd3d)

653 We did that, no?
Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:42 PM (Vb4BV)

I don't remember. Of course one hits 29 and the memory starts to go.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (J70i0)

654 Lizzy

Issac Newton Square, Reston. They tore down the old building and put in a day care. Later it became a gym.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (hyuyC)

655 Somebody conned me into reading The Lovely Bones when that was a thing sweeping the nation.

I had to admit the concept seemed interesting. In reality it quickly devolved into some New Agey piece of crap that got literally worse as each page passed. I pushed ahead thinking hey maybe there's a great payoff here!

Nope. I should've beaten to death the person who sold me on it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (4ErVI)

656 davidt - I think we did talk about ELO. Maybe it was on the previous thread. I know I commented that there is not one ELO song that I do not love.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (lwiT4)

657 Have you read Hot Zone???
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (W+vEI)
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No way. I live here.

True story: the building now houses a daycare. Yep.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (JJZzu)

658 I reread "Treasure Island" recently and thought it was still pretty darn good. The Disney movie is pretty good, too.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (Rg9Ab)

659 641 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (PFd3d)


Ugly. Saw them live, from a very good seat, during their "A spaceship opens, and there we are" tour, and...boring. Jeff Lynne may be some sort of musical genius, but he has no onstage charisma whatsoever.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (Vb4BV)

660
Prediction: Early Autumn, abnormally low temperatures.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc.


It's supposed to be 90 again a week from today.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (IqV8l)

661 The Picture of Dorian Gray is fairly short...

Yes. Very, very much sucks donkey balls good in my opinion.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (2lndx)

662 I saw Unrelated Threats open for Violent Femmes back in '89.

It was tense.

Posted by: fluffy; child of a lesser fascism at August 21, 2018 09:46 PM (cHbmY)

663 AOP - A few days back you made a comment about 'the other plastic car'. Which got me thinking, and I haven't looked it up, but I mentioned the Saab Sonett. Afterwards I pondered what others there have been? I seem to recall that the Opel GT was plastic? Maybe not.

Anyhow, Fiero.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (CDGwz)

664 Name one good thing about that song. The lyrics?The vocals? You can't even dance to that crap. Other than it's not Come on Eileen, I can't think of anything redeemable about that song.
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (v1udk)

The lyrics, the vocals, the music itself. All great.

Would you prefer the left or right door seat? :-)

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (J70i0)

665

Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.


I like them a lot. And Jeff Lynne's done a lot for music.

Great band.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (HaL55)

666 641 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.
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"Time" is the best concept album, better than anything Pink Floyd did. Gauntlet flung down. First song of theirs I heard and really liked was "Don't Bring Me Down" which got played 1,000 times when it was out. But I pretty much like any of ELO's stuff, including their most trippy-dippy stuff.

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (W+kMI)

667 I was raised on ERB novels. Tarzan was a Victorian savage who exemplified correct behavior. The first two books have quite the story arc. It's all about Jane.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (hyuyC)

668 Bitter Clinger @ 628, read The Yiddish Policeman's Union" or suchlike, can't remember rightly but it's a damn good read. Set in Alaska, it was. Double whiskey, chopped me off at the knees. That and up since 0400 this morning. sorry.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (zLDYs)

669 ''Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.''

ELO first hit in the 70's. All over the radio.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (jm1YL)

670 Jeez, over 600 comments and nobody mentions ELO, whether good, bad, or ugly.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (PFd3d)
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They've been mentioned. Do a page search.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (vDqXW)

671
I had read everything Zane Grey wrote before puberty.
What's your point?
Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (I9Sw7)

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How much of Grey's pre-pubescent writing actually got published?

Posted by: tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (1Fa/H)

672 I know I commented that there is not one ELO song that I do not love.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:45 PM (lwiT4)


How did a group like that, with their genre, kick out something like Long Black Road ?

That shit, new, would make radio today. I love that song.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (fiGNd)

673 Poe stories! The Cask of Amontillado.

It's literally about a dude planning and executing sweet revenge on his friend who made him a cuckold and took away the woman who he was to have children with.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (sFofr)

674 As usual the dopes forgot to turn my travel card on. I'm gonna ream em good tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (CW4Xz)

675 Young adult fiction pre-1960s is really good. Johnny Tremain comes to mind.

Posted by: parsimony at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (xEt5a)

676 Ace, I recommend the Lord Darcy stories by Randall Garrett.

Also, I recommend another Randall Garrett book which is in the public domain. You can get this free from several web sites: _Unwise Child_

I have read and re-read that book at least a dozen times.

Posted by: mr_jack at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (EWtCc)

677 ELO: Telephone Line. Mmm mmm mmm

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (lwiT4)

678 ELO first hit in the 70's. All over the radio.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (jm1YL)
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And somebody had to clean that up.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (vDqXW)

679 Brad, ace isn't talking polemics, he's talking about reading in a more enjoyable time.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 09:48 PM (Xpw10)

680 I fuckin hate everyone left of center and most in the center

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CW4Xz)

681 Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (zLDYs)

...

Added to list.

H/T

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (JJ9bx)

682 632; saw muscle shoals on netflix. they were legends.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (KP5rU)

683 tankdemon at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM

*shakes fist*

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (I9Sw7)

684 Nah. Opel GT was steel. Looked it up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CDGwz)

685 Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (PUmDY)

686 What did the hippie say when he couldn't score any drugs at a Greatful Dead concert?

"Man, these guys really suck!"

Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (rmyUw)

687 I like ELO up the record that my wife starts to like them.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (vDqXW)

688 302 >>led me to
"House to House" by SSG David Bellavia
looks to be brutal



It's a good book!

Great book. What those men went through was amazing.

Posted by: Timon at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (cBE0b)

689 657 bluebell

See my 654. It's back to a day-care now? And the DRB HQ is gone. Yah.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (hyuyC)

690 I fuckin hate everyone ...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CW4Xz)


Just stop right there Chief. You hit it in four notes.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (fiGNd)

691 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

Stones.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (PFd3d)

692 Young adult fiction pre-1960s is really good. Johnny Tremain comes to mind.
Posted by: parsimony
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Have A Copy [X]

Don't Have A Copy [ ]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (CDGwz)

693 Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?



The one that's still going.

Posted by: The Rolling Stones at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (fuK7c)

694 686 What did the hippie say when he couldn't score any drugs at a Greatful Dead concert?

"Man, these guys really suck!"
Posted by: Minuteman at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (rmyUw)


It's an old joke, and not a bad one, but having gone through more than my share of those dead sober, I can't see much truth there.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (Vb4BV)

695 582 I'm a big fan of the Beatles. But the most depressing story that I have heard is that McCartney and Lennon overheard some of Brian Wilson's recordings and basically ripped off the "psychedelic movement".
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:34 PM (vDqXW)


I'm not buying that. The Beatles had more to do with creating the "psychedelic movement" than the Beach Boys. But they didn't do it by themselves either.

Although there was quite a rivalry between them. McCartney was very impressed by "Pet Sounds", which sort of inspired the studio effects on "Sgt. Pepper".

Personally, my favorite Beatles albums are "Rubber Soul" and "Revolver", along with the 1966 single "Paperback Writer"/"Rain". They rocked a hell of a lot more than "Sgt. Pepper".

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (sdi6R)

696 Oh, shit! Geraldo is about to . . . Fuck him! Sorry folks. Geraldo can go straight to hell!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (v1udk)

697 Yep, Salty.

https://tinyurl.com/y7eljlpx

And the DRB is not exactly gone, just moved to Sunrise Valley. Luckily we are not subject to it.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (JJZzu)

698 Most over-rated band of all time is U2. I can't think of a single song of theirs I would want to play at a wedding or even a funeral or any other occasion.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (KN1xl)

699 Geraldo discussing the illegal alien killing Mollie Tibbetts... so predictable.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (hECVl)

700 691, first one came to mind.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (PUmDY)

701


I recommend any Tom Swift book.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (HaL55)

702 I fuckin hate everyone ...

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:49 PM (CW4Xz)

Just stop right there Chief. You hit it in four notes.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (fiGNd)

well the list is long and glorious. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (CW4Xz)

703
WOUNDED DEER, Massachusetts -- Emily Dickinson College sophomore Fawn Liebowitz died suddenly last week in a kiln explosion on campus. Liebowitz, 20, a sociology major from Fort Wayne, Indiana, was tragically killed while firing a pot in the new kiln in Sylvia Plath Hall. "Messy" was how Wounded Deer Fire Chief Michael Redman described the scene of the accident. "It was hard to tell the pot shards from the body parts," said the pyrodefense professional. "She just blew like a frog sucking on a cherry bomb," Redman added. The cleanup of Plath Hall has been further complicated by a thin coat of glaze that has affixed many of the body parts to the light fixtures and hand railings. In the wake of this tragedy, there has been talk among Emily Dickinson students of renaming Plath Hall to Fawn Hall. Until she was blown to bits, friends would say that Fawn's best feature was her smile. Her roommate, Shelly Dubinsky (sophomore, primitive cultures), described Fawn as "a special friend who liked to share her thoughts and experiences, and who had a curiosity about life and relationships." Her long-time boyfriend (they were "engaged to be engaged"), Eric "Otter" Stratton of nearby Faber College, was in shock when he first learned of Fawn's passing. "I just talked to her last week. She was going to make a pot for me," Stratton said while attempting to hold back tears. Services have already been held. In lieu of flowers or donations, the family requests that friends express their grief by posting comments on line at: www.myspace.com/crazycueball. CCNN thanks The Blue Republic (www.thebluerepublic.com) for contributing to this iReport.

(Via CNN iReport)

The Perfessor


https://cuppacafe.com/fawn-liebowitz-dies/20160

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (pNxlR)

704 Watching Victor Davis Hanson right now.

For people who are wealthy, and have connections and influence, losing nobly is an option...

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (2lndx)

705 >>Issac Newton Square, Reston. They tore down the old building and put in a day care. Later it became a gym.


Oh, thanks!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (W+vEI)

706 677: grammie, i had that album. some doobie smoking "friend" borrowed it for cleaning his cheap ass pot. never saw the album again. fucker. lost a lot of music back then.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:52 PM (KP5rU)

707 691 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"


.....

Aerosmith?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (JJ9bx)

708 ''I like them a lot. And Jeff Lynne's done a lot for music.

Great band.''

There's a great video on YouTube of them performing "It's Magic". All dressed in matching satin pants and shirts. The violin player's is a little tight if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Tuna at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (jm1YL)

709 When I was 12 I had just read The Lord of the Rings straight through for the third time, and was going through Lloyd Alexander's Chronicles of Prydain, that lovely YA tribute to Welsh & Irish legendry. Also had just started getting into Heinlein in a serious way, had read "Salem's Lot" by Stephen King (scared the pants off me) and had found a collection of stories by this dude H.P. Lovecraft....

Posted by: exdem13 at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (W+kMI)

710 Mollie Tibbetts. Wasn't the guy that killed Chandra Levy an illegal?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc, etc. at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (CDGwz)

711 647 Whoa, I think we are all missing the point here. Ace is talking about reading books that were mostly read at age 12.
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for me, that is a bit of Heinlein, and every Hardy Boys book published.


yeah, I was kinda weird.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (UsCnO)

712 Watching Tales From The Crypt from the first season. Good stuff

Posted by: giovanni boccaccio at August 21, 2018 09:53 PM (N1ZXu)

713 er, sock.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (N1ZXu)

714 Reading The Hobbit on my Rust Belt vacation. Hadn't read it in a while. Great book. Tolkien had a gift of describing locations vividly but without it taking 500 words.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (LUyqH)

715 698 Most over-rated band of all time is U2. I can't think of a single song of theirs I would want to play at a wedding or even a funeral or any other occasion.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (KN1xl)


They have considerable talent. I don't like most of their music (two songs excepted, one of which most people hate), but I can see that it's damn good, as with Springsteen. Are you sure you're not reacting to Bono's narcissism? That's what sets world records, not the overrating of the band.

Posted by: Splunge at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (Vb4BV)

716 Alberta Oil Peon....was it expensive, and was it a quick fix?

my 95 needs it.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (Tm+wy)

717 Oh, shit! Geraldo is about to . . . Fuck him! Sorry folks. Geraldo can go straight to hell!
Posted by: Concerned People's Front at August 21, 2018 09:51 PM (v1udk)

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Is he making excuses for the darling illegal dreamer?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (I16G8)

718 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

*ahem*

Posted by: Bob Dylan at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (sdi6R)

719 695: rickl, agreed. paperback writer/rain was some of their best.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (KP5rU)

720 bluebell

I have a 7 and 3 record with the DRB. The last loss was one of the reasons to leave Reston.

Thanks for the link. We both had correct, in part, comment. It was always a day care, and the original building was torn down. The gym was catacorner to the day care.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (hyuyC)

721 ELO? How about ELP?

Posted by: Javems at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (cSfOv)

722 "Which longtime act best rode out the 80s?"

Stones.
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 09:50 PM (PFd3d)


Ah ... Steel Wheels. '89. Cardinal Stadium. My Senior Year.

A couple dumb ass goody-two-shoes girls going "What's That Smell". Nothin' you need to worry about.

And ... classic ... one of 'em waiting on me in the parking lot on Monday Morning - making sure I kept my mouth shut.

Of course. I got a reputation too, honey ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (fiGNd)

723 Age 12 I was running through a lot of Asimov. Also the diaries of Adrian Mole, Susan Cooper, and George Orwell's Animal Farm.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 09:55 PM (N1ZXu)

Antifa Beats the Shit Out of Bernie Sanders Supporter, Thinking He's "Alt-Right" Because He... Was Carrying an American Flag

So that's the real definition of "alt-right" employed by the left now?

When they're justifying their terroristic attacks, they claim they're "fighting Nazis."

But the definition of "Nazi" turns out to be: "someone holding the flag of the nation that defeated the actual Nazis."

John Sexton has the story and video.

Now I'm going to say something, and I don't want it to be read as criticism of Sexton, or anyone else pushing this story.

I understand why the story is being framed the way it is. I do.

I want to talk about why the story can only be framed the way it is.

Without finding fault for anyone on the right for framing it this way.

But the way people on the right are framing this -- and I completely understand the reasons why -- is, "Look, Antifa says they beat up Nazis but they beat up nice liberal Bernie Sanders supporters."

Now, that's the way I framed it too.

The reason the story is framed this way is to dispute the media's argument that antifa only beats up Nazis -- as if that were legal or acceptable.

But it's an argument that CNN clown Chris Cuomo, son of one American governor and brother of another, has made on TV, justifying Antifa's terroristic violence.

You can read Nolte's excellent article on that, or John Sexton's very good piece.

Cuomo -- and I'm sure he did this in coordination ("collusion") with CNN editorial -- implicitly, deliberately endorses terroristic violence by CNN's ground troops in Antifa, while using Yasser-Arafat-like slippery language in doing so, so he can claim he was just saying "Nazis are bad."

That's a lie. I'm sure his script was vetted by CNN and he wrote it several times so that he could justify terroristic violence by the left while retaining some slight scraps of plausible deniability on the point.

But getting back to the why-is-the-story-framed-this-way problem:

Many normal conservatives have been beaten in the street, had eggs thrown at them, been maced in the face, etc.

The media provides air cover for its ground troops, Antifa.

So people frame the story in this way -- a Bernie Sanders supporter was viciously attacked by antifa! -- because the media and city police forces have already decided that conservatives are not human and are not owed civil rights and that it is now de facto legal to brutalize them in the street.

People resort to emphasizing this was a Bernie Sanders supporter because we all understand, and we have all internalized, that the media and Democrat-controlled police forces have deemed us subhuman noncitizens who are of a lesser caste and may be beaten by the higher castes as they choose.

So we all have to emphasize that this is a Bernie Sanders supporter. We could not, say, emphasize that the lesbian girl who was maced in the face by Antifa for the crime of wearing a red MAGA hat was a Trump supporter, because we know that that, in the left's mind, makes her a valid Target of Opportunity.

So we are forced to accept their definition of us as subhuman and beneath the protections of the law. We could not say "They did this to a Trump supporter!" of Charlie Kirk being assaulted (yes, dumping a drink on someone is assault and battery) because we have internalized it that, in the dominant, leftist-controlled rules of engagement, We deserve that.

But this Bernie Suppporter? He doesn't deserve it.

And that's what makes it bad. He, unlike us, does not deserve to be clubbed in the head on the street for carrying an American flag.

We deserve that. He doesn't.

Again, not criticism intended of John Sexton or the many other right-leaning writers writing the story in this way. As I also do not intended to criticize myself for framing it this way.

I point this out only to emphasize to you How bad the situation is.

We all have internalized we have no hope of having anyone in the media point out that beating conservative citizens in the streets is a social evil that borders on open civil war.

So we have stopped even trying.

We have simply moved on to complaining now that the left's fellow travelers are being beaten in the street, hoping against hope that maybe that will make them stop justifying beating conservatives in the street, as Chris Cuomo does on the Super-Patriotic American "news" outfit CNN.

But that is itself hopeless. All the left will do is chide antifa for having chosen the wrong target of the wrong caste to beat in the street for the Nazi-like crime of carrying the American flag.

But they will not criticize antifa for beating citizens in the street. Just for beating the First Class Citizens of the left in the street, mistaking them for the Second Class Citizens of the right, who you're allowed to beat.

Nay -- morally required to beat.

As Matt Yglesias does here.



At some point the shooting will begin, and people will be killed by the violence they supported, justified, and promoted -- not just the "right" targets, but the "wrong" leftwing targets too -- and these monsters will ask: "How did this happen?"

Well: It was all you.

People respect the social compact of civil peace only so long as that compact protects them as well.

When they see that there is no longer a social compact of peace, they will begin violating it themselves.

And once that starts in earnest: there is little chance of stopping it. Civil wars start off slowly, then enter a period of dramatic escalation, then enter a period of slow, grinding murder for years, until finally, so many people are dead and so much misery has been suffered that people are finally willing to make peace with those who have been murdering them.

Ask the populations of any country who've gone through a civil war.

But I'm sure our very smart media class knows all this, right? They're The Experts in everything.

Just ask them! They'll tell you on twitter, after they liken domestic terrorists to those who liberated Europe from the actual Nazis:



Do you geniuses honestly think you're the only people who've thought "Gee, maybe some political vigilantism/terrorism against my enemies would be fun and profitable"?

I know from the way you write you news reports, you don't think that. You think the right is eager to start murdering people.

So why, Experts and Geniuses, do you insist on starting a civil war with people who you are convinced are arming themselves in the teeth only to start killing progressives?

And then, of course, they whine: "We've been made to feel unsafe to express our First Amendment rights!"

Really?

Tell me -- What's that like?

Because the people actually, currently being victimized by real violence want to hear all about what it's like to merely have back-of-the-mind fears of some future, possible, hypothetical violence.

The idea of only facing hypothetical, possible, future sounds pretty sweet, at least to those of us actually, in reality, being targeted for violence.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:58 PM




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1 Oh, My

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (bUjCl)

2 st

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (iiixZ)

3 Oh fuck me....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (iiixZ)

4 Hey, I did the NOOD thingy.... WFT.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (iiixZ)

5 God help us. Pray for our country to return to it's founding principles. Tolerance is only a one-way street apparently.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (2sCft)

6 Won't be long before antifa is asking for veteran's benefits.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Y274z)

7 Goonskwadz, then deffskwadz, then, let us never speak of this again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (fA1SL)

8 Well, yeah!

American flags are flags of white man hate!


Posted by: Antifa azzholes and their CNN lovers at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (UsCnO)

9 All these marxists screaming and crying for blood, violence and death.

What to do, what to do.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (EoRCO)

10 Yeah, those antifa guys and gals are totally like the gallant men that stormed Omaha beach. Just faggier and more cowardly and vile.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (2sCft)

11 It's entirely possible that the next civil war will feature Democrats shooting each other, if this case is an omen.

Hopefully Americans will ensure that the Never Trumpers don't make it to Day 2.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (3Tn95)

12 Breaking News : The law offices of Perkins-Coie have been raided and their attorney's charged with trying to influence the election.

Just joshing, that shit will never happen.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (P1AAi)

13 Left on Left assaulting is as old as, well, Leftism

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (lxZ71)

14 6 > the battle of Berkeley Starbucks. 2018: Hell without a latte.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (iiixZ)

15 Won't be long before antifa is asking for veteran's benefits.
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Sure, heroes of the revolution become rich landowners when they are awarded the rural estates that were once held by enemies of the people.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (I9Sw7)

16 As veterans of the War Against the Deplorables Antifa will ask for free college tuition....oh wait....

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (Y274z)

17 Sooner or later it won't be accidental, it will be for supremacy

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (lxZ71)

18 ...at first slowly, then all at once.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (UTKsr)

19 'Antifa' were commies. Who are no different than fascists.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (oVJmc)

20 Very well put.

Oh don't forget the whole if you ask someone to define what they mean by Nazi that means you are a Nazi because no one who isn't a Nazi would ever ask if you think they're a Nazi.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (dEQP3)

21 Red White and Black were Nazi flag colors.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (Y274z)

22 Sooo, Trump in W Virginia

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (bUjCl)

23

I'm glad I'll be dead sooner rather than later.

Tough on youngins though...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (qul7b)

24 Won't be long before antifa is asking for veteran's benefits.
Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Y274z)

++++
I'd vote in favor of them exercising their funeral benefits. Cardboard box or cremation or lye pit - your choice.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (2sCft)

25 Ayn Rand got it wrong. The people in blue cities shouldn't be asking "Who is John Galt?". They should be asking "Do you know where food comes from?"

It's time for "us" to stop feeding "them".

Posted by: Neil deGrasse It's not rape if I'm wearing the dress Tyson at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (1L9V9)

26 22.
*ahem*
That's Best Virginia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (fA1SL)

27 Antifa are a bunch of terrorists

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (bUjCl)

28 FL Senate poll

Scott (R) +6

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (MAstk)

29 If you get near me wearing a mask, pray I don't see you first.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (w7KSn)

30 I know a 95 y.o. who came ashore on Omaha Beach who could easily beat the crap out of Chris Cuomo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (ptqGC)

31 *ahem*

That's Best Virginia.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine,
=
so sorry, my apologies ! BEST VIRGINIA !

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (bUjCl)

32 Just so the left knows, after things go sideways I will take no prisoners. None.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (r9UYA)

33 It takes time for stuff like this to filter down to the "silent majority". And that's especially true when the Press deliberately lies and covers up stories. The Majority just want to be left to live their lives in peace. They want to have jobs, raise a family, and maybe take a vacation some time. We are at the stage where they are uneasy at the way things are going. That can change quickly. I just hope people are angry enough to turn out and vote for our side in the midterm elections.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (JKNZq)

34 11 It's entirely possible that the next civil war will feature Democrats shooting each other, if this case is an omen.



If that happens, I want in on some of that!

Posted by: abused Americans who still believe in Constitutional Law at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (UsCnO)

35 Antifa Beats the Shit Out of Bernie Sanders Supporter, Thinking He's "Alt-Right" Because He... Was Carrying an American Flag

So that's the real definition of "alt-right" employed by the left now?


Has been for a while. Right after Barky slimed into office Homeland Security came out with that ridiculous list of potential domestic terrorists that included anyone who like sthe 2nd amendment, likes the Constitution, ...

And California (among other places) had long established that wearing an American flag t-shirt was provocative in an American school. Too provocative to allow.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (63i9Y)

36 I would urge you all to wear MAGA hats. Also carry a concealed weapon.

AND FUCKING USE IT ON THESE SUBHUMAN TRASH.

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (E8aRS)

37 I added this kicker:

And then, of course, they whine: "We've been made to feel unsafe to express our Free Speech rights!"

Really?

Tell me -- What's that like?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (PA9oZ)

38 The Cuomo brothers are trash.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (ptqGC)

39 Beat up.

I've seen pictures of the weapon that antifa fag hit the guy in the head with. It's not an umbrella. It's some sort of club that has a handle on one end and A heavily weighted and pointed hunk of metal at the other end connected by a long spring. A small windup makes that thing lethal.

He split that guys head open and if that video went longer you would see him lying in a pool of blood.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (/tuJf)

40 Im sure that Bernie supporter called us Nazis also so on a uncomplicated level, I don't care that he got the shit beat out of him. And in most Red states , it's not accepted that these procom thugs can be violent with no consequences.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (2DOZq)

41 West, By God, Virginia is a well known phrase around here.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (FTlwv)

42 The folks stirring this shit up will flee to other countries if/when it goes hot. It has never been about winning elections since Trump, it's been about scorched earth to punish Americans and America.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (sFofr)

43 39. That's a spring-cosh, aka 'SIPO' baton.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (fA1SL)

44 Antifa Beats the Shit Out of Bernie Sanders Supporter, Thinking He's "Alt-Right" Because He... Was Carrying an American Flag


Hey! You found the Nazis.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (ylXIx)

45 Antifa are anarchist-terrorists; they sow chaos and terrorize law abiding citizens

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:10 PM (bUjCl)

46 Just so the left knows, after things go sideways I will take no prisoners. None.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (r9UYA)
............

They're not going to get any of my Beanie Weenie, either.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (HgMAr)

47 41.
* shoves coupons for Tudor's through usb *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (fA1SL)

48 Bernie bros hate America, anyway, so the American flag was just a prop.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (63i9Y)

49 >>45
Antifa are anarchist-terrorists; they sow chaos and terrorize law abiding citizens


Posted by: runner


zzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: J. Sessions at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (r9UYA)

50 They beat him up because they hate the United States and want it destroyed. Anyone carrying the symbols of the United States, like a U.S. flag is their enemy.

It is not just confined to Antifa, but much of the hard left believes this. What do people think all the kneeling during the National Anthem is about? Or when leftist tear down statues? Or when they burn the flag?

They have been telling us they are our enemies, not political opponents, but straight our enemies. No different then if a enemy army was marching across the country. The desired goals are the same: Overthrow of the United States and the establishment of a government more of their liking.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (MuTTO)

51 Come to my town antifa.
I dare ya.
Bring friends. You'll need them.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (0tfLf)

52 Who in their right minds think we can have an amicable national divorce?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (+dsLj)

53 >>That's a spring-cosh, aka 'SIPO' baton.

I was reasonably certain you would know what it was.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (/tuJf)

54 I would postulate blood keeps news exciting and paychecks coming in.

I would also postulate they/media, occupy, blm, Antiflaw are all a part of the Dem chaos that works to intimidate who they want intimidated at whatever moment.

I would hope we don't end up like yemen, Syria, Libya, Egypt, where they move in and take over.
It's not Their hands that will get dirty.
They'll just suggest who should win from the sidelines.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (dPd5y)

55 Here comes Trump.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (sdi6R)

56

*puts hands in pockets*
*nonchalantly and calmly walks away humming the Imperial March*

dumb dumb dumb, dumbdie dumb dumbdie dumb

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (I9Sw7)

57 The next civil war will be elites and their circle in Urban Areas versus the rest. It won't be pretty.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (sFofr)

58 Oh yeah, and the Bernie supporter said that he was there to protest the people that came into Portland for their march. He's talking about Patriot Prayer, which is from my side of the river. Yes, technically they came in from a different state. Since the people from Portland keep moving into this area and turning it bluer, I think we should be able to drive across the river and protest.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (JKNZq)

59 We don't need to feed people red pills; I swear the left is force feeding it to them all on their own. Self inflicted wound. Keep it up!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (hvf9s)

60 What's with the drums, Antifa?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (ptqGC)

61 So the flag is now a fascist symbol but black masks are symbols of freedom?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (KN1xl)

62 I believe Antifa had shown flags espousing communism, was I wrong?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (dPd5y)

63 52 not amicable but starting to fear inevitable

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (lxZ71)

64 18% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Antifa, down from 24% last year, and 54% have an unfavorable opinion.

https://bit.ly/2MudsNR

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (+y/Ru)

65 Trump on stage in WV....just started.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (Enq6K)

66 48 Bernie bros hate America, anyway, so the American flag was just a prop.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (63i9Y)

----------------------------------

They are the useful idiots, now that the real left controls that particular street he is getting the "boot up his ass" as that former KGB defector told us would be their fate.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (MuTTO)

67 So why, Experts and Geniuses, do you insist on starting a civil war with people who you are convinced are arming themselves in the teeth only to start killing progressives?
+++++++++
Nice post, Ace.
Although the question is rhetorical, here's my take: They encourage outright violence because they believe at least one of two things are true:
1) The police at all levels are on their side, and able to suppress what they're trying to trigger, thus handing them a bloodless-for-them victory.
2) The military is on their side, and able to suppress what they're trying to trigger, thus handing them a bloodless-for-them victory.

The way I see it:
- The first part of #1 is true, the second part is not true.
- The first part of #2 might not be true, the second part might be true.

They're making one hell of a gamble either way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (I2dne)

68 Trump should be on fire tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (ptqGC)

69 Have live feed of the WV rally going in the background and they are playing John Denver's Country Roads, of course. Love it!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (hvf9s)

70 I dunno, I kind of like it when the Left accidentally beats the shit out of its own.

It's like a revolution eating its own, only less cannibalistic or whatever.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (JSIDz)

71 When will people with public platforms start calling out the bullshit claim that Antifa is anti-racist and anti-fascist?
I'd like Antifa to identify five things they don't like about actual, historical Naziism.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (eAMlh)

72 20 Oh don't forget the whole if you ask someone to define what they mean by Nazi that means you are a Nazi because no one who isn't a Nazi would ever ask if you think they're a Nazi.

"it depends on what the definition of 'is' is": clever and witty.

"it depends on what the definitin of 'nazi' is": evil and racist

Posted by: Anachronda at August 21, 2018 07:14 PM (NmR1a)

73 He's bashing ESPN....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (Enq6K)

74 AntiFa have been International Communists for 90 years. They aren't new. They are well funded and supported now in America though.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (sFofr)

75 Unlike American soldiers, antifa only attacks people who won't fight back. In that respect they're more like the brave SS soldiers who shot defenseless old ladies and little kids. Pure valor, there.

They've been pretty lucky so far.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (Mouru)

76 Take a look at that rally. Now, picture a gang of Antifa thugs outside, waiting to bash a few heads.

It would not end well.....for Antifa.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (ptqGC)

77

Great post, Ace.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (uPlWr)

78 I'm not going to hang out, but some of you might want to know that I threw some Markie Post boobage in at the end of the last thread.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (fuK7c)

79 53. Heh. I do like instruments of mayhem. And that's a good 'un.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (fA1SL)

80 Ironically, this poor victim probably had more in common with the Nazis than most of the people that Antifa goes after. Doesn't justify it to any degree, mind you.

Posted by: junior at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (umy56)

81 So it must now be the the Antifa (anti First Amendment) flag or no flag. When did they declare victory over the US?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (KN1xl)

82 We're one Presidential election away from civil war. Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: Guzalot at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (schB/)

83 Mueller - Doing the work that the IRS won't do

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (lxZ71)

84 Trump speaking now live at the rally!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY_isOiTaw

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (hvf9s)

85 "So we have stopped even trying."

I don't have a forum, but I haven't stopped trying. If ever I mention Antifa, I never say, "Antifa". I say, "The Fascists, Antifa." Because it is right and proper. Factually, it is right and proper.

We are witnessing bona fide Brownshirts who wear black and who lack a specific leader but are actively Brownshirts in ideology. They're Statist thugs on payroll of Capitalists pushing Socialism on the masses but not upon themselves. Tools of oligarchs synchronized with State power.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (6eEQ+)

86 Isn't all campaign money spent with the intent of influencing the election?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2018 07:16 PM (xIfFB)

87 That will teach the Bernie Bros to think they are still in America.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:16 PM (KN1xl)

88 He's speaking now.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (ylXIx)

89 unfortunately that One Bernie supporter wore regular clothes, so not recognised as one of them.

I wonder if Bernie endorses this conduct?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (dPd5y)

90 Andrew and Chris Cuomo should star in "Dumb and Dumber III".

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (jDF8P)

91 I'll wager NeverTrumpers are avoiding watching this rally like vampires avoid sunlight and garlic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (ptqGC)

92 Antifa pussies have to pick on weanie Bernie bots because actual conservatives would kick their asses. Including me.

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (Z48ZB)

93 These thugs will be just like the Nazis getting rid of the Brownshirt leaders.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (2DOZq)

94 RICO Antifa now while there's still time.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (FhXTo)

95 I wonder if this is what the Jews felt like as the Nazis took over?

Posted by: BomberCommand at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (5T/WH)

96 84
Trump speaking now live at the rally!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY_isOiTaw

Thank you for that. The Fox stream audio is shit.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (r9UYA)

97 Coulter was on with Howie Carr, mentioned some guy was tired of some band head guitar jerk mouthing off about politics (hating Trump I guess). So the guy yells something, and (quietly) gives the finger during the next song ... band guy asks him up toward the stage, guy figures it will be a debate, crowd holds him, band leader starts punching him, crowd cheers ...

must be video of that somewhere ... or did I dream it? ha, no sure she said that. but so much crazy shit going on like that, it all kinda flows together in a "purple haze" or something ... purple rage of the left.

Mosh pit, but now sacrificing Trump patriots.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (bT8Z4)

98 Anarchists and Communists have been very active in the US for a very long time. Turn of last century they did assassinations and bombings. Haymarket, etc.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (MIKMs)

99 Antifa pussies have to pick on weanie Bernie bots because actual conservatives would kick their asses. Including me.
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:17 PM (Z48ZB)

Shouldn't that be Antifa front holders?

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (eAMlh)

100 I am convinced that Strozk's "insurance policy" was Jeff Sessions. That got to him early on. He is a plant

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (7rpiB)

101 There must be a reason antifa stay in blue areas. If they hate Trump supporters so much, why aren't they going into the red states and attacking there? Is it because they know they would probably get the shit beat out of them and maybe shot? It just shows what cowards they are.

Posted by: Abby at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (ze06e)

102 "And I know this doesn't matter to you, but we're putting our coal miners back to work."

Donald Trump, professional balla.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (3Tn95)

103 I watched The Way We Were for the first time ever last week. Was on a classic film channel.

Man, they sure had a rosy, romantic picture of what communists were really like back then! If they were all like Babs' depiction, just wanted peace and love, libs might have a case. But the mask is off now; today they are all secret brownshirts with colored hair.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (hvf9s)

104 This guy is like an ambulatory mountain.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (/tuJf)

105 You can blow up windmills easy
Pipelines can go like that
But coal is indestructable

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (ylXIx)

106 How tall is the WV governor, dear heavens.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM (dEQP3)

107 RICO Antifa now while there's still time.
Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (FhXTo)
++++++++
Wrong approach. They're an international terror group. Send the National Guard next time the act up, bust them down and lock them up. RICO isn't really needed here. It would be nice to get the money men behind the curtain, but the problem goes away if they get their heads cracked by riot police and then thrown in prison. They'll have a serious recruitment problem if we just enforce the damn riot laws as they are on the books right now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:20 PM (I2dne)

108 "I'm gonna bring up your governor....he's the largest most beautiful man."

LOL!

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:20 PM (Enq6K)

109 When the burning times come, all our violence will be protected speech and all your speech will be violence!

Posted by: The Left at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (DzFIB)

110 The WV guv is a freakin' giant.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (r9UYA)

111 85
We are witnessing bona fide Brownshirts who wear black and who lack a specific leader but are actively Brownshirts in ideology. They're Statist thugs on payroll of Capitalists pushing Socialism on the masses but not upon themselves. Tools of oligarchs synchronized with State power.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (6eEQ+)


And as I keep saying, Antifa is *international* in scope. They have been active in Europe for years, usually beating up people who protest open borders immigration policies. So, far from being anarchists, they are actually off-the-books muscle for the State.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (sdi6R)

112 The WV guv is a freakin' giant.

Yikes... Glad he's on our side

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (O2RFr)

113 49 >>45
Antifa are anarchist-terrorists; they sow chaos and terrorize law abiding citizens


Posted by: runner


zzzzZZZZzzzz
Posted by: J. Sessions at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (r9UYA)


Related to RUSSIA and the election - antifa were Uncle Joe's foot soldiers so sleepy sessions had already recused himself.

Otherwise antifa clearly meets the definition of a terrorist organization. But, RUSSIA.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (1g7ch)

114 "He's a big man...he's all man. 6'11"....I won't talk about the weight. I won't go there!"

OMG!

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (Enq6K)

115 At some point the shooting will begin, and people will be killed by the violence they supported, justified, and promoted -- not just the "right" targets, but the "wrong" leftwing targets too -- and these monsters will ask: "How did this happen?"

Too bad Maet ain't still around ... he'd ban Ace in a heart-beat for posting some shit like that.

Folks - I can think of a handful of peeps here that have been saying this is exactly how this shit is going to go down for years. Sure - I like to think I was one of the first - but I wasn't the only.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (fiGNd)

116 That live feed is great!!! I love the comments. God Bless Trump!

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (Z48ZB)

117 Six foot eleven?

That's nearly two feet taller than me.

And once again, Trump doing the good boss thing of making sure that everyone gets named and credit given. People remember this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (dEQP3)

118 Maybe somebody should tell Mueller has Trump and Russia connection. He'd start investigating the shit out of them.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (eAMlh)

119 74 AntiFa have been International Communists for 90 years. They aren't new. They are well funded and supported now in America though.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (sFofr)

----------------

They were the morons who convinced the average German to vote, or at least not oppose, Hitler and the National Socialists. So even when they don't take over the country, they find other ways to wreck countries.

Thankfully American conservatives are of a different breed - they love constitutional republics. That will be our saving grace.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (MuTTO)

120 "He's a big man...he's all man. 6'11"....I won't talk about the weight. I won't go there!"



OMG!

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (Enq6K)


I know! lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (ptqGC)

121 Otherwise antifa clearly meets the definition of a terrorist organization.
=
exactly

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (bUjCl)

122 If Trump wants to win reelection, he needs to take action against the extreme left. He needs to send troops to guard the First Amendment rights of college speakers. I would expect and hope that Antifa would resist, and be slaughtered by the military.

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:23 PM (E8aRS)

123 so how does the joke go, we ain't played cowboys and antifa yet?

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (MTjB1)

124 115 At some point the shooting will begin, and people will be killed by the violence they supported, justified, and promoted -- not just the "right" targets, but the "wrong" leftwing targets too -- and these monsters will ask: "How did this happen?"

Too bad Maet ain't still around ... he'd ban Ace in a heart-beat for posting some shit like that.

Folks - I can think of a handful of peeps here that have been saying this is exactly how this shit is going to go down for years. Sure - I like to think I was one of the first - but I wasn't the only.
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM (fiGNd)

You do know time and facts on the ground change right? What was not appropriate a couple of years ago may be appropriate now and vice versa.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (2DOZq)

125 It's not so bad as all that. "Internalizing" the idea that the media see us as subhuman is simply accepting what has been true since - in my personal memory - 1964. The framing of THIS story is simply a way of forcing them to back off their support of antifa, or to come out of the closet as full-on anti-American. Which anyone who has been listening knows already.

But it will at least either embarrass them or, more likely, open a few more eyes.

Posted by: George LeS at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (59GGI)

126 This is the rally where Trump gives up and resigns 'cause they got him dead to rights this time.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (2NqXo)

127 "I am convinced that Strozk's "insurance policy" was Jeff Sessions."

Plausible.

Also plausible: That Brennan knew that Obama was unqualified for office and was holding that information over his head.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (w7KSn)

128 The enemy of the people are the MSM/Dems. It should be obvious that they are the ones responsible for inciting violence.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (hECVl)

129 If you're watching the Youtube broadcast (I am drifting here and there and back to work while data management is chugging along), the comments section moves too fast to read. People do look engaged, at least in this narrow context.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:25 PM (I2dne)

130 If Trump wants to win reelection, he needs to take action against the
extreme left. He needs to send troops to guard the First Amendment
rights of college speakers. I would expect and hope that Antifa would
resist, and be slaughtered by the military.
Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:23 PM (E8aRS)


Thanks, Moby.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 07:25 PM (jDF8P)

131 I have never forgiven Maet for letting that autistic fucker ChemHeff post a hundred times a day. I thought about quiting AoS.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (rnAwa)

132 Let me get this straight.

Some Commies beat up a guy carrying a U.S. flag.

What's so hard to understand?

Posted by: JAS at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (3HNOQ)

133 Actually I think Cuomo was right. The guys storming the beach at Normandy were anti-fascists.

You got to credit someone when they get something right. Our guys were fighting *fascists* to take a *fascist* regime down.

Hitler would never dispute that his regime was *fascist*. So the people fighting them were anti-fascist.

This is all true.

It's has fuck all to do with a group waylaying anybody *they* call a fascist in a mob.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (vDqXW)

134 >>>127 "I am convinced that Strozk's "insurance policy" was Jeff Sessions."

Plausible.

...

It wouldn't be Sessions per se. It could be that they had the plan to claim he, too, was a RUSSIAN AGENT and take him out of the loop.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (PA9oZ)

135

File this post away under: I Told You So

Because you'll be posting it again.

This really is sad. More and more people are talking about a civil war coming, and these are people you would never had expected it coming from their mouths.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (uPlWr)

136 "He's a big man...he's all man. 6'11"....I won't talk about the weight. I won't go there!"

OMG!
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 07:21 PM

Trump could've added, "I need to lose a few, too," in solidarity. That's okay. The media would be all over him if he made a joke. TRUMP ADMITS OBESITY MAKES HIM UNFIT FOR OFFICE.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (2NqXo)

137 The phoney-umbrella club from Thomas Wictor even if he thinks HQ commenters are a bunch of masturbators...
https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/
1026266313788813312

Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (Evws/)

138 They were the morons who convinced the average German to vote, or at least not oppose, Hitler and the National Socialists.

-----

It's a horrible question to ask, but: Were those 'ordinary Germans' wrong?

They were faced with a choice. It was gonna be the Nazis or the Commies.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (UiRxW)

139 DRAIN THAT SWAMP!
DRAIN THAT SWAMP!

- love the energy at this rally.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (fA1SL)

140 Those West Virginians don't seem too demoralized by Manafort and Cohen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (+y/Ru)

141 >>>This really is sad. More and more people are talking about a civil war coming, and these are people you would never had expected it coming from their mouths.


I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)

142 I point this out only to emphasize to you How bad the situation is.




Yes, it is. Not to add that carrying an American Flag is a sign of being a Nazi. What does that say.

Which just leads to my point about not going to these demonstrations bcz they are no-win. Becz they are what the Media and Left wants. Let them beat up on each other bcz there are no targets from the Right. That's a nice little wake up call for the Left who thinks they are safe from Anti-fa. We need them to wake up and have more Walkaway people.

Look at the disappointment from the Unite the Right Rally when no one showed up. We win with those outcomes. That's when people begin to doubt the narratives.

When my enemy is trying to get me to do something, I'm smart enough not to do it. Let the Left turn on itself. Maybe that poor kid that got beat up will have second thoughts about what he believes. Maybe he'll join the walkaway movement.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (Nt/TS)

143 Omg going after Manchin for being nice to Hillary is great. Some people are learning from Trump how to take it to their opponents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (dEQP3)

144 I'm thinking at future antifa rallies, right before the rally/riot starts, I'm going to go around the immediate vicinity in Portland and put Trump and American flag bumper stickers on the stupid left wing Prius's right over the Coexist and Bernie Bro stickers. Then antifa will trash and burn all the Bernie lovers cars. Good plan, eh?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

145 You do know time and facts on the ground change right? What was not appropriate a couple of years ago may be appropriate now and vice versa.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:24 PM (2DOZq)


Bullshit. I was just willing to make obvious conclusions.

Conclusions ANYONE could have made - because I made 'em. I'm smart - but not the smartest one here by no means.

If I could see - it was there for all to see. I was just willing to look.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:29 PM (fiGNd)

146 I love this guy on the stage asked the coal miners to stand up, but pretty much everyone is standing already, lol.

"Dishonest Joe Manchin." Doesn't sound as catchy and biting coming out of anyone's mouth besides Trumo, but it'll do.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:29 PM (hvf9s)

147 tu3031 @ 130: so I must be a Moby because I want Trump to do for pro-American speakers what Eisenhower did for blacks?

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (E8aRS)

148 The train has left the station.

Hope y'all stocked up on sandwiches.

Might not stop again for a while.

Posted by: Simplemind at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (ZuGkg)

149 I knew we were on the road to civil war when Obama was elected in 2008, for the simple reason that you can't have half of the population trying to ram Communism down the other half's throats without bloodshed.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (sdi6R)

150 144 I'm thinking at future antifa rallies, right before the rally/riot starts, I'm going to go around the immediate vicinity in Portland and put Trump and American flag bumper stickers on the stupid left wing Prius's right over the Coexist and Bernie Bro stickers. Then antifa will trash and burn all the Bernie lovers cars. Good plan, eh?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)

I immediately thought the same but I don't live in the Blue Hunting Grounds of Antifa. They wouldn't pull this stuff where I'm located.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (4ErVI)

151 Omg going after Manchin for being nice to Hillary is
great. Some people are learning from Trump how to take it to their
opponents.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (dEQP3)



Ya this guy seems pretty good

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (lwiT4)

152 >>Six foot eleven?

>>That's nearly two feet taller than me.


Do you have a broom? I just had a great campaign idea.



Don't kill me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (/tuJf)

153 Six foot eleven?

-
Let's forget about the six feet and talk about the eleven inches.

Posted by: Mae West at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (+y/Ru)

154
Yikes!

Posted by: aaefAd at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (4DCSq)

155 I would guess Antifa claims to be promoting worker but hate actual workers.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (eAMlh)

156 I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)


What does Insty call it the rebellion of the middle class?

It's been a long, long, long time coming. That's what makes me furious at the Never Trumpers and their idiotic Year Zero nonsense that this is all Trump's doing.

No, you mouth breathers, Trump is the symptom, not the disease. And you better pray that he's the cure.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (dEQP3)

157 the antifa brownshirts do not matter as much as it is the leftist/globalist alliance that they front for
THAT is the enemy that must be annihilated at the base of the problem

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (swEzU)

158 But coal is indestructable
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM

I'm guessing you have never been to Centralia Pa.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (lxZ71)

159 Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)

-------

My family and others like those you describe have been preparing for it for some years now. Always saw it as a possibility since Obama was elected. My ex-FiL, too.

Since Trump was elected it's shifted out of the "possible" column into the "probable" column.

And it's nudging right up against the "certainty" end of the spreadsheet.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (UiRxW)

160 i've started actually praying for the country the last few mths and a peaceful resolution of some kind.

ive never felt the need to do that before.

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (dPd5y)

161 No words

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (CE6iV)

162 It's easier to establish that you are actually fighting fascists when the people on the other side *own* the fascist label.

You know what--it anybody goes to prison for this bullshit about "misgendering" that is disagreeing with the self-identified gender--I'm going to see progs get my political identity RIGHT or go to fucking prison!!

That's going to be some massive bullshit to say I can't call you "he" but you can call me a Nazi or a White Supremacist (i.e. Bad Guy of the World) whether or not I find that even remotely descriptive of my politics.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (vDqXW)

163

Getting rid of ICE is one way to take out a counter to groups like antifa.

Antifa should be declared a terrorist group and ICE should take them off the streets.

If blm ramps up again. Same for them. We need to shut these growing groups of violent people down. They have become feral and easily persuaded to violence.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (uPlWr)

164 And you better pray that he's the cure.



I do.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (lwiT4)

165 I knew CW2 was coming after 2010 and the GOPe did Jack shit in Congress.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)

166 >>>What does Insty call it the rebellion of the middle class?


he says, quoting someone I believe: "When the lower class rebels, you get riots. When the middle class rebels, you get revolutions."

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (PA9oZ)

167 Smart guy, says some good things, has a folksy polished charm, but doesn't wear out his welcome, when the people are really there to see Trump. Hopefully they vote him in and Manchin out!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (hvf9s)

168 "I wonder if this is what the Jews felt like as the Nazis took over?
Posted by: BomberCommand at August 21, 2018 07:18 PM (5T/WH)"

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It is unnerving and police better do something about restraining the Antifa rabble if they want to be accepting by the people as "us" rather than "them".

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (KN1xl)

169 I suppose you could say deranged violent leftists are so out of control they attack their own.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (p0nVR)

170 I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.




Are they making fucking phone calls? Are they writing letters? Are they doing any of the hard work that a democratic Republic demands? Cz if they are not, then stop with the circle jerk talk about a civil war. If you have time to talk about it, you have time to prevent it. If we get there, if we become the fvcking ME, I will hold responsible all the people who bitched but did nothing to prevent it. This topic makes me so angry every time it comes up. Because people are lazy pieces of shit who would rather talk civil war than make any calls.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (Nt/TS)

171 Do you have a broom? I just had a great campaign idea.


Don't kill me.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (/tuJf)



Oh like I'll give you the sweet mercy of death.


Hahaha Trump maybe I'll sneak out without the Secret Service. Sure, that'll go well.



Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (dEQP3)

172 ive never felt the need to do that before.
Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (dPd5y)

Very scary times willow. I know I lay in bed many a night when Obama was in office worried to death about our future. I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

173 No, you mouth breathers, Trump is the symptom, not the disease. And you better pray that he's the cure.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:31 PM (dEQP3)

Antifa progs taking away the soap box and they won't recognize the ballot box... there was another box too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (1g7ch)

174 @100

I've been saying that for months.

Nothing else makes sense.

All of this is happening because of his idiotic and nonsensical recusal.

Jeff Sessions is a disgraceful piece of shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (kT3/m)

175 anyway I don't know wy we are upset at the Bernie supporter are Bernie supporters also Antifa?

I had thought they were more fluffy idealists. peace and love types.

the flag he brought? was that to burn?

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dPd5y)

176 144 I'm thinking at future antifa rallies, right before the rally/riot starts, I'm going to go around the immediate vicinity in Portland and put Trump and American flag bumper stickers on the stupid left wing Prius's right over the Coexist and Bernie Bro stickers. Then antifa will trash and burn all the Bernie lovers cars. Good plan, eh?
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 07:28 PM (2sCft)


I like that. "Monkeywrenching", I believe it's called.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (sdi6R)

177 But coal is indestructable Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:19 PM

Fire can't melt coal!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnel at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (hvf9s)

178 In 3 days time there won't be a pit bull that hasn't been put on a spit if this goes hot.

Texans can close off all N/S E/W traffic

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (Xpw10)

179 Silent Sam came down Monday night in Chapel Hill, long after he should have and no thanks to the people who should have done it. And when it finally happened, when the statue was toppled and students sang and social media celebrated, the adults in the room stepped forward to remind us why this had taken so long. University of North Carolina officials were first, hiding behind a nameless statement sent out late Monday. Did that statement acknowledge how the 1913 statue had long been a source of pain on campus,...

Charlotte Observer editorial

In other words, it's okay to break the law as long as it is for a 'good' cause. Like when that black vendor in St. Louis got whomped by SEIU thugs for selling American flags outside a town hall event (they got off too), or like Bike Lock Prof who literally split open a Trumpian scalp and got no jail time, good causes abound these days.

Maybe Bill Ayers is right, and killing off 25 million ungood Americans will bring about the long awaited Utopia.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (0ogQG)

180 Too lazy to scroll thru comments...

Manafort found guilty on eight counts, jury hung om ten.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (Zogyx)

181 Jewells yeah, I thought even if we'd be pissed at eachother at times we would hold together much like 9-11

im not conivniced anymore

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (dPd5y)

182

Also, I've said it before, but it bears repetition: People shouldn't talk about "CW2."

"Civil War" = Failed rebellion

"Revolution" = Successful rebellion

Try "AR2." It's small nit to pick, but mindset matters in these things.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (UiRxW)

183 I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)


Really ?

I like you Jewells. Let me start with that. I'm not pickin' on you ... I'm just asking.

Why ? With shit in the History Books about the French Revolution, NAZI Germany, Reconstruction in the South ...

... why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

184 tu3031 @ 130: so I must be a Moby because I want Trump to do for pro-American speakers what Eisenhower did for blacks?

So how many did Eisenhower have slaughtered by the military, genius? I'll wait...

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (jDF8P)

185 In other words, it's okay to break the law as long as it is for a 'good' cause. Like when that black vendor in St. Louis got whomped by SEIU thugs for selling American flags outside a town hall event (they got off too), or like Bike Lock Prof who literally split open a Trumpian scalp and got no jail time, good causes abound these days.

Maybe Bill Ayers is right, and killing off 25 million ungood Americans will bring about the long awaited Utopia.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (0ogQG)

Social Justice.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (sFofr)

186 Who doesn't remember American soldiers charging the beach, hitting Germans in the head with bike locks?!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (vDqXW)

187
The train has left the station.

Hope y'all stocked up on sandwiches.

Might not stop again for a while.
Posted by: Simplemind


Are we there yet?

Posted by: Little Billy at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (IqV8l)

188 >>.No, you mouth breathers, Trump is the symptom, not the disease. And you better pray that he's the cure.

right. They don't get that people voted for Trump because people were sick of the Republican Establishment lying to them, selling them out, prioritizing the small number of high-dollar donors' interests over the great number of middle class voters' interests, ignoring them, and even actually just flat-out insulting them as peons and untermenschen at an increasingly speedy clip.

I keep asking: If you're so Elite, how did you not see this coming?

Elites who are actually elite see political trends rising and make adjustments. They co-opt the necessary parts of the coalition of the dissatisfied in order to keep a majority coalition together.

This "Elite" class did not see anything coming and made no adjustments at all. They just started insulting those who questioned their rule as "hobbits" and "wack-a-doos."

But they're Elite. They caused the very uprising that resulted in their exile, and did not see it coming, and took no action to co-opt the coalition aligning against them.

But they're elite.

Just ask them!

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (PA9oZ)

189 Six foot eleven?

That's nearly two feet taller than me.


Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:22 PM (dEQP3)



Ahem.

*coughs*

*kicks dirt*


Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (fuK7c)

190 there was another box too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (1g7ch)


The one with the trap door?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (ylXIx)

191 why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)



Because we are Americans. We are exceptional. No sarcasm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (lwiT4)

192 While I agree with everything Ace said, I actually read this story in a way different than either he proposes.

One way is: AntiFa attacks innocent Bernie Bro.

Another is: AntiFa attacks American flag holder.

I read it as: Feel Good Story of the Week: Liberal Protester Hospitalized, No Conservatives Arrested or Hurt.

Posted by: Confuscious at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (JJ9bx)

193 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/ 1031628271153106944.html

Strategic Deception

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (FhXTo)

194 Very scary times willow. I know I lay in bed many a night when Obama was in office worried to death about our future. I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

-@----------------

I knew election night they were gonna flip their shit for a while. I had no idea it would go on this long, and keep getting worse.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (I16G8)

195 I think the list of charges against Manafort was shorter than this post.

In summary - The Anti-Falafal Goons will beat up with intent to kill anyone they think is an enemy.

This becomes grounds of pure self defense. Either me or the homicidal nut. I will always choose me if I find myself in such a situation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (YEriz)

196 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (UiRxW)

I count Antifa as the rebellious.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (2DOZq)

197 It's old.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (yQpMk)

198 He's hammering on Mad Max.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (+y/Ru)

199 scogg, because we're not Europe, and we already Knew the lessons of Russian, germany, Italy.

as recent events.

iblame education

Posted by: willow at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (dPd5y)

200 Look, someone attacked by these bastards, put in harm's and possible death's way (beatings are, by definition, unsafe), needs to pull a gun and shoot to kill in self-defense.

Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (zgX3V)

201 why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

I don't know. I knew they would be pissed and throw a hissy fit but I did not imagine this. I truly did not.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (dUJdY)

202 The one with the trap door?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (ylXIx)


No. That one is the back hole.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (1g7ch)

203 very good, Beating up on that sly Manchin dude

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (bUjCl)

204 Damn it!

Man who not take off old Confuscious sock, soon pull stinky feat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JJ9bx)

205 There is a reason why the antifa don't come over on this side of the river. There is a reason this town is sometimes sneer at as "Vantucky". Patriot Prayer likes to take it over to Portland.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JKNZq)

206 >>> I know I lay in bed many a night when Obama was in office worried to death about our future. I seriously never dreamed people would become THIS unhinged. Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

That's the thing, Jewells. I understand the fear the average lefty or NeverTrumper has, because that is exactly how I felt during the Obama years. I kept waiting for the Sword of Damocles to fall each day he was in office, chipping more and more of our liberties away. It is exhausting to think your president does not have your best interests at heart and would prefer to see you dead. But I never, EVER dreamed of behaving the way the left has. Americans don't do that. The unhingement of the left over Trump, and how quickly the peace-and-love left swings to violence, is unsettling to behold.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (hvf9s)

207 The only candidate running for relection that has even spoken on this is Ted Cruz.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (Xpw10)

208 ">>>This really is sad. More and more people are talking about a civil war coming, and these are people you would never had expected it coming from their mouths.


I am well aware. A friend told me that this topic comes up with some alarming frequency among her middle-of-the-road, middle-class, mortgage-holding church members.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:27 PM (PA9oZ)"

-----------

This unrest is different from the 60s which was mostly the baby boomers throwing a temper tantrum at their parents, in other words a clash of generations.

The current situation is different in that it is purely ideological, the young may still be more represented on the left side but they did not come up with idea themselves, they are being led there by their teachers.

It's the complete divide between the media and academia and the rest of us that is scary.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (KN1xl)

209 But they're Elite. They caused the very uprising that resulted in their
exile, and did not see it coming, and took no action to co-opt the
coalition aligning against them.


I like substituting strange for great sins and PDT for Khan in Genghis's terrible punishment quote.

Posted by: DaveA at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (FhXTo)

210 Man who not take off old Confuscious sock, soon pull stinky feat.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JJ9bx)

LOL!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (txw6d)

211 Hit Antifa where they live.

End all federal student lending.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (oVJmc)

212 Talking about Mollie Tibbets now.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (fA1SL)

213 >"I wonder if this is what the Jews felt like as the Nazis took over?

When being an American and listening to liberals is like being Polish and listening to Hitler screech about lebensraum

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (swEzU)

214

Trump talking about Mollie being murdered.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (uPlWr)

215 209
Genghis Don.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (fA1SL)

216 She was NEVER suppose to lose. Of course the Commies are going scorched earth. It's what they do.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (sFofr)

217 In summary - The Anti-Falafal Goons will beat up with intent to kill anyone they think is an enemy.

This becomes grounds of pure self defense. Either me or the homicidal nut. I will always choose me if I find myself in such a situation.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (YEriz)
_________________

When this becomes common, Katy bar the door.


Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (ylXIx)

218 There is a reason why the antifa don't come over on this side of the river. There is a reason this town is sometimes sneer at as "Vantucky". Patriot Prayer likes to take it over to Portland.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:40 PM (JKNZq)

Trump lost Vancouver...

...by less than 100 votes.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 07:42 PM (DzFIB)

219 Maybe they want to start a civil war.
Maybe they are making the following calculation: in the best case, they win. In the worst case, they lose, but they inflict lasting damage to the US. Since they hate the US so much, it's worth it.
They control much of the press in the US. The official press in other countries sympathizes with them and the alternative press is much less professional and well-developed. So they can count on foreign sympathy and support.
The main organized opposition, with free Internet discussion, citizen journalism, citizen political movements, and a middle class that does not depend on the government for its existence, is in the US. If they defeat it, that's it for now.
In addition, they may be overestimating their strength, because they are constantly told that the laws of history are on their side.
But if they don't succeed, they'll just try somewhere else in 10-20 years.

Posted by: PG at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (iqCkn)

220 188
Yeah, I got insulted right into buying more firearms. Works every time.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (HgMAr)

221 Indeed LizLem. As I said I expected hissy fits and the constant drone from CNN etc of how bad a president he is. THIS... this is fucking scary. I just hope there is more us than there is of them.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dUJdY)

222 Good wife have seventy chores in home: cooking, and sixty-nine.

Posted by: Confucius at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (UiRxW)

223 Bander, would you check your mail. Oh, maybe you did.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (Xpw10)

224 So what's the real deal on the Cohen thing? On Twitter, Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dkK+O)

225 *narrows eyes at Bander*

I'll call you in a bit.


But they're Elite. They caused the very uprising that resulted in their exile, and did not see it coming, and took no action to co-opt the coalition aligning against them.

But they're elite.

Just ask them!
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (PA9oZ)


Hey, just ask Tom Nichols about how we must all listen to him and fellow Experts because we must respect their Expertise even though they've been wrong about everything for, what, 30 years now?

Last I checked, you were an expert because you were good at what you do, not because you performed the ritualistic word dance properly.

You want to have fun? Quote the 2010 Republican Pledge to America to the Never Trumpers and say that it is a new Trump proposal and watch them condemn it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dEQP3)

226 Because we are Americans. We are exceptional. No sarcasm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (lwiT4)
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Yeah, but we used to recognized God.

Christians are the buffer of Civilization. Long-suffering Christians, I mean. We are taught to absorb the burdens of other people. Not simply keep everything a balanced transaction.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (vDqXW)

227 "How many American citizens must be murdered by illegals just to make Nancy Pelosi feel good?"

Did Trump say that?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (YEriz)

228 I knew election night they were gonna flip their
shit for a while. I had no idea it would go on this long, and keep
getting worse.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (I16G

Amen.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (txw6d)

229 I got dibs on Ayers

sin, bird, doornail.

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (nFwvY)

230 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

Because we are Americans. We are exceptional. No sarcasm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (lwiT4)


Really ? Grammie ... that's Horse Shit.

Americans did shit to other Americans like all the street-fights and riots that came along with the Organized Labor Movement. The one chapter Jonah got right in Liberal Fascism was just how Fascist the US was under Wilson.

Grammie ... it was Americans that served as State Police in Wisconsin - where you live - executing the John Doe raids to suppress Political Opposition to the Party In Charge. It was also Americans cutting down tents and threatening physical harm at the Wisconsin State House.

Peeps ... again ... sometimes I feel like I'm over my skates here ... because I surely can't be the only fucking person seeing this shit play out in real time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)

231 Freedom is the ability to call one male raping another male "homosexual rape".

If that is granted, all else must follow.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (EoRCO)

232 This is more like how Christians felt during Stalin and afterwards when 35 million were rounded up and tossed into Gulags for being Christian.

The More You Know....

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (sFofr)

233 While I agree with everything Ace said, I actually read this story in a way different than either he proposes.

One way is: AntiFa attacks innocent Bernie Bro.

Another is: AntiFa attacks American flag holder.

I read it as: Feel Good Story of the Week: Liberal Protester Hospitalized, No Conservatives Arrested or Hurt.
Posted by: Confuscious at August 21, 2018 07:38 PM (JJ9bx)



Yep.

The majority of people are observers. It is all about Optics. There's no way to default to the right as the problem on this story. So, It shakes the narrative. It adds to the cognitive dissonance the population are already dealing with. It helps add to Walkaway.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (Nt/TS)

234 Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and
Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.


Oh geez

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (lwiT4)

235 Somebody made a comment a few days ago that rang true. It was that the tipping point would be reached when good men turn from thinking it is a sin to visit violence on these enemies of America to thinking that it is a sin not to visit violence on them.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (iGktu)

236 Glad he got into America was never great

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (lxZ71)

237 But they're elite.

Just ask them!
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:37 PM (PA9oZ)

Something tells me they'll fare about as well as the left once the civil war is over. They'll not be claimed by either side.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (MX7xj)

238 ok, so, how will revolution start ? trigger ? French and German and Russian had serious economic undertones and were building and discontent was growing for decades. hwo is this revolution going to start - with tax cuts and market through the roof and more people living better ? we gonna establish monarchy or what ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (bUjCl)

239 So civil war, huh?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (BvNr4)

240
How many American citizens must be murdered by illegals just to make Nancy Pelosi feel good?"
Did Trump say that?


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (YEriz)


No

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (10vO4)

241 USA USA USA USA!

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (lxZ71)

242 Bander, would you check your mail. Oh, maybe you did.
Posted by: Ben Had



Yeah, I'll be back to you after consultation with the hobbitess.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (fuK7c)

243 I'm not saying that I've ever thought much about civil war and social breakdown.

I'm just saying that if it happens, I know what I'd do.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (JJ9bx)

244 So what's the real deal on the Cohen thing? On Twitter, Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dkK+O)

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Thank you for taking one for the team and following that RINO GOPe Elitist asshole.

He is just wishcasting. If he comes back, I'm out.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (I16G8)

245 Is the Empress planning a little soiree involving Capt Bill and a not quite dead emu?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (YEriz)

246

What makes the Dems fume even more, inside the beltway, is the number of judges, and the SC Judge that Trump has placed.

Soros always dreamed of taking over the judiciary. And all representatives from townships to big cities. Total control.

That sh*t got stopped cold when Trump won. It's taking them back ages, and it is making them furious.

As he rolls back the hard core left's "progress" the unhinged become even more so.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (uPlWr)

247 Donald Trump has the patience of Job.

If you're Donald Trump, how pissed off are you today?

How gauling must it be to have Lanny Fucking Davis out there calling you a criminal?


If I were him, the Saturday Night Massacre would be tinker toys compared to the hell I would unleash on these lawless cocksuckers.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (kT3/m)

248 Grammie ... it was Americans that served as State Police in Wisconsin - where you live - executing the John Doe raids to suppress Political Opposition to the Party In Charge. It was also Americans cutting down tents and threatening physical harm at the Wisconsin State House.

Peeps ... again ... sometimes I feel like I'm over my skates here ... because I surely can't be the only fucking person seeing this shit play out in real time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)
***********



grammie didn't say we were perfect.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (ylXIx)

249 I wish he wouldn't talk about how great the stock market is doing. Because that could vanish overnight.

And this isn't the greatest economy we've ever had when we're umpteen trillion dollars in debt.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

250 Anyone who supports, or fails to condemn, Antifa is guilty of sedition. Why this organization is not targeted by the FBI the way the KKK was is an interesting question. Muslims kills Christians and Jews throughout the mideast with impunity and anyone who comments on that is Islamophobic. Antifa beats up Trump supporters, and if you say anything you must be part of the alt right (which I really don't think has a sufficient definition to be a meaningful category). To me, the second it became ok to heckle conservatives on campus, is the day the war went public. And still we sit hoping someone will make it better. With these two scalps on Mueller's belt, understand the message. Anyone who works in this administration is a target. And anyone who wears a MAGA hat is a target. The war is here and has been for more than a decade.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (5mrLG)

251 This is still only happening in god forsaken democratic hellholes. Everyone seems sane around here.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (yQpMk)

252 USA USA USA USA!

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (lxZ71)
............

Oh, the MSM must be cringing.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (HgMAr)

253 people are lazy pieces of shit who would rather talk civil war than make any calls.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (Nt/TS)

Calls to who? My representative? Hahahahaha

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (BTA9k)

254 Help me out here, where is the bad news in this story?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, sitting quietly in the corner at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (XlbwU)

255 Peeps ... again ... sometimes I feel like I'm over
my skates here ... because I surely can't be the only fucking person
seeing this shit play out in real time.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM (fiGNd)

You aren't alone, Scoggy.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (txw6d)

256 Americans did shit to other Americans like all the street-fights and riots that came along with the Organized Labor Movement.


I know these things, ScoggDog - but I am talking in a more sweeping sense. Not individual incidents, but in the idea that is America. We are exceptional, as Ronnie so eloquently articulated. The idea of America is clashing right now with the idea of Nihilistic Utopia. I think, in God's Providence, that the exceptional America will prevail.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (lwiT4)

257 It wouldn't be Sessions per se. It could be that they had the plan to claim he, too, was a RUSSIAN AGENT and take him out of the loop.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 07:26 PM (PA9oZ)

How come' out of the blue, Sessions endorsed Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (7rpiB)

258 Is the Empress planning a little soiree involving Capt Bill and a not quite dead emu?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (YEriz)


I would never subject an emu to that!


Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (dEQP3)

259 Here's some food for thought:

We've had the same politicians, and the same pundits around for decades. The leftists very rarely move to the right; the allegedly conservative ones almost always move left. Nevertheless, being a politician or a political commentator basically means having a very easy life with very little work.

That state of affairs may be coming to an end soon. Look at those commentators on TV and ask yourself, "Which of these 'men' will meet violent deaths?"

I hope David Frum and William Kristol will be on that list.

Posted by: Ken at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (E8aRS)

260 grammie didn't say we were perfect.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:47 PM (ylXIx)


She said shit wouldn't go sideways because we're "exceptional".

She's wrong. Shit's happened in her own backyard to show she's wrong.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (fiGNd)

261 >>>Another is: AntiFa attacks American flag holder.

That was my first take.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (txw6d)

262 History aptly shows that when the people start to fight back, when you make the average American take time away from his family and job to defend our freedom, it doesn't end well for the other side.

Ow I'm perfectly fine beating these people again at the ballot box b cute there is so much at stake. But if they make me get off my chair to defend liberty, it's going to get ugly for them, to the point it will be a generation before they even feel safe to open their mouths.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (9lgjh)

263 So since the geniuses in the media determined that since Fa is "anti-fascist", if they attack you, you're a fascist. Because that's what they attack.

So this guy is a fascist, right? Anybody attacked by Fa is a fascist, because Fa calls themselves ant-fascists and the media is trying to teach us all how to have a really simple mind.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (vDqXW)

264 Jewells45, we are smarter and better equipped.
To reiterate 1 D'oh boy is equal to 500 antifa.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:49 PM (Xpw10)

265 French and German and Russian had serious economic
undertones and were building and discontent was growing for decades. hwo
is this revolution going to start - with tax cuts and market through
the roof and more people living better ? we gonna establish monarchy or
what ?


Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (bUjCl)
This isn't France or Germany or Russia. I don't know exactly how it begins.
But keep in mind the British North American Colonies had a higher standard living than Europe, and it was consistently rising when AR1 was started by wealthy and middle-class merchants and farmers.
We have different motivations, and are more easily angered by authority here.
It's a mindset that seems to be fading, but I think there's still enough of it left to making things pretty sporty.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (UiRxW)

266 Pretty convenient that the DOJ had this Cohen shit to spring, the same day as the bad news about Manafort

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (7rpiB)

267 He is just wishcasting. If he comes back, I'm out.


Oh no. The cocksucker will get an ear full to go with his ass full.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (yQpMk)

268 Thus we have proof that the Empress somewhere in that heart shaped shadowed darkness where a heart should be, she does have concerns for animals.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (YEriz)

269 >>> With shit in the History Books about the French Revolution, NAZI Germany, Reconstruction in the South ... why would you think people in Western Civ wouldn't go unhinged again ?

As a kid I remember feeling proud we no longer punished people by putting them in the stocks, or burning them at the stake, or crucifying them, as a form of punishment and a lesson to others. Then the social media revolution happened, and I realized human nature never changes. The desire to punish and destroy others in public never changes. We just give it prettier trappings and a blue check mark.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (hvf9s)

270 Trump rocking WVA rally!

Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (nd5mm)

271 The Portland Antifa types are whining that this is getting a lot of publicity, while an Antifa guy who refuses to identify himself was allegedly hit in the head by a police munition at the same demonstration.

He has dramatic pictures of a large crowd control round sticking out of his helmet. Unfortunately, people noted that the helmet metal around the round is sticking out, not in. (The guy works in a metal shop.)

He also claimed that he went to a hospital (also anyonomous), was so seriously injured that they had to install a shunt to remove the blood from hemorrhaging, and yet was still released in 24 hours.

Needless to say, the guy will never turn over his helmet or his medical records for independent review, but he did succeed in his goal - slandering the Portland police.

Posted by: The ARC of History at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (Mrl1e)

272 Yeah, Ken sounds like a moby.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (sdi6R)

273 224 On Twitter, Gabe Malor was talking like...
Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2018 07:43 PM (dkK+O)

LOL

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (BTA9k)

274 Thus we have proof that the Empress somewhere in that heart shaped shadowed darkness where a heart should be, she does have concerns for animals.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (YEriz)


I'm not an entire monster, after all.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (dEQP3)

275 What absolutebullshit that Cohen thing is.What a dirty little backstabbing shit he is.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (mCMQ5)

276 Oh, my. An Ace Essay. Thank you.

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at August 21, 2018 07:51 PM (fCE6j)

277 When being an American and listening to liberals is like being Polish and listening to Hitler screech about lebensraum

Posted by: Grad School Fool at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (swEzU)

Or Palp's great-grandfather when the Germans introduced Liverwurst during the occupation.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:52 PM (4ErVI)

278 Helmet with a round sticking in it?

Green Helmet guy was one of the refugees Gaylord let in and has moved to Portland?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:52 PM (YEriz)

279 She said shit wouldn't go sideways because we're "exceptional".



That's not exactly what I said. You asked why people didn't see this coming long ago. I meant that I did not imagine this happening because we are America.


I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (lwiT4)

280 Pretty convenient that the DOJ had this Cohen shit to spring, the same day as the bad news about Manafort
Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (7rpiB)

They should have waited a week or two.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (1g7ch)

281 Please. It was not "the Baby Boomers throwing a temper tantrum at their parents." It was young people that did not want to go to Vietnam and get shot at. That's why the antifa people are wimpier than the protesters in the 70s. Their life isn't at risk. They are not in danger of getting drafted.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (JKNZq)

282 I have warrior blood. My ancestors were football hooligans. I'll just pop in to Starbuks on the way to the rumble.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (RuIsu)

283 Trump mentioned the Nazi getting shipped back to Germany, yay! And giving ICE their due.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (hvf9s)

284 If there is to be shooting, the lame stream media should be on everyone's top three list.

All of them, then turn the TV off.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)

285 I think, in God's Providence, that the exceptional America will prevail.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (lwiT4)


Then it's just Faith grammie ... plenty of God Fearin' Southerners felt the same.

Didn't work out.

I have no doubt ... if there's a next world ... you're a shoe-in.

I'm game-planning this one, though. Kind of all-in. Pot Committed, as we say on the card table.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)

286 We have different motivations, and are more easily angered by authority here.
It's a mindset that seems to be fading, but I think there's still enough of it left to making things pretty sporty.


Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (UiRxW)

Revolutions overthrow governemtns. Civil war is disintegration of law and order when no one is in charge, and rule of the gun takes over. Are were there yet ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (bUjCl)

287 Or Palp's great-grandfather when the Germans introduced Liverwurst during the occupation.


Liverwurst is goooood.

Whatever metaphor you're straining for needs improvement.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

288 Oh no. The cocksucker will get an ear full to go with his ass full.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (yQpMk)

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Good news is I'm 99% sure he would not sully himself by slithering back "down here".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (I16G8)

289 Some asshole on Insty "he had no reason to make. This up" LOL

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (mCMQ5)

290 Oh hey wasn't Omowhat'sit supposed to be on Hardball tonight with some kind of videotapes?

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (dEQP3)

291 Then the social media revolution happened, and I realized human nature never changes. The desire to punish and destroy others in public never changes. We just give it prettier trappings and a blue check mark.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (hvf9s)
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Yes, social media allows you to never be disconnected from mob dynamics!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 07:54 PM (vDqXW)

292 I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (lwiT4)

Yep, the good guys win. But Satan gets a lot of good punches in, so it's hard to remember that sometimes. Thanks for the reminder grammie.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (hvf9s)

293 Whatever happened in discovery for the US vs some Russian companies?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (yQpMk)

294 How come' out of the blue, Sessions endorsed Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (7rpiB)

Remember, at that time, Trump was a weapon-banning, pro-abortion, progressive taxation, single payer healthcare leftist.

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (BTA9k)

295 So they just did a panning crowd shot at the WV rally and it is strikes me every time that Trump gets more people than a mid-level rock concert (it would be fuller with a top-level rock concert, but that's what it would take).

Is this unusual in our history? I can't remember politicians ever crowds like this, and can't fathom it in a midterm year. I don't know whether to be pleased or distressed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (I2dne)

296 This shit is all going on o backfire on the left bigly.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (mCMQ5)

297 Your argument might carry more weight if you remember the Chicago Seven, the DNC convention, Mayor Daily's famous slip of the tongue, and LBJ deciding not to run for re-election.

That is how we got Nixon.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (YEriz)

298 President Trump saying the economy is going to go much higher than 4.1%

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (lxZ71)

299 Remember, at that time, Trump was a weapon-banning, pro-abortion, progressive taxation, single payer healthcare leftist.

But right on immigration. I think that was the deal with Sessions.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (yQpMk)

300 That's not exactly what I said. You asked why people didn't see this coming long ago. I meant that I did not imagine this happening because we are America.


I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (lwiT4)

I saw it but I'm a cynic. Also I've read a lot of history so I know people are generally shitty and everything, everywhere always devolves into this type of stuff.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (4ErVI)

301 Trump rocking WVA rally!
Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (nd5mm)



yeah, it's great.

He's going to be on the road a lot, thank goodness. Ignoring Mueller has got to be getting to him.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (uPlWr)

302 Shit ... Hey Miley.

With all you got goin' on ... surprised you're here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (fiGNd)

303 290 Video tapes now?She hide a camera in her front hole?

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (mCMQ5)

304 Oh I gotta run to a dinner thing. Have fun with the rest of the rally and a lovely evening!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (hvf9s)

305 *couriers to the Empress a slice of pie with ice cream on top*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (YEriz)

306 Said 25% tax on EU cars

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (lxZ71)

307 Liverwurst is goooood.

Whatever metaphor you're straining for needs improvement.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fuK7c)

It's from last night when we talked about the Nazis bringing liverwurst to the Balkans during the war. I'm just needling Palp if he's around.

He likes it. I think he said black bread, butter, liverwurst, and raw onions.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (4ErVI)

308 Can we deport antifa back to Germany?

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (Y274z)

309 Is this unusual in our history? I can't remember politicians ever crowds like this, and can't fathom it in a midterm year. I don't know whether to be pleased or distressed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (I2dne)

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Be pleased. Added bonus is that PDT draws tremendous energy from these events.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (I16G8)

310 Yeah,sadly Nixon was a big state,high spending,high taxing social liberal....

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (mCMQ5)

311 Meanwhile: Madonna looks like she just arrived back from Planet Ding-Dong.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (HgMAr)

312 people are lazy pieces of shit who would rather talk civil war than make any calls.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:33 PM (Nt/TS)

Calls to who? My representative? Hahahahaha
Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (BTA9k)


I promised people I would no longer go into this in detail, so I won't. But you can you can use your damn phone and call anyone you want in our fvcking government and be heard. The fact I have to tell you that tells me you have never even bothered to try and call anyone. Easier to bitch here and wherever else and moan about a civil war. But do anything to stop it? Forget it. Let's become the Middle East instead. Guns and violence.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (Nt/TS)

313 Fox dropped coverage but Fox business has it

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (lxZ71)

314 Omorosa could have slipped a Galaxy Note into her bra set to record...

Yeesh, where is a TSA agent to do an invasive pat-down when you need one?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (YEriz)

315 In every small hamlet throughout the country, there are one or two corrupt businessmen that run the show. They are who your local representatives bastardize the law on behalf of. They are the ones that make the payments.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (JJ9bx)

316 they already had their revolution - installed obama. Trump is counter revolution.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (bUjCl)

317 Fox has it back on

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (lxZ71)

318 Thank you AP. om nom nom

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (dEQP3)

319 Adios LizLem.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (bUjCl)

320 I've always thought of Trump as Alcibiades.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (2DOZq)

321 Trump is rocking it in WV. Good job. He always does.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (yJ1e6)

322 Said 25% tax on EU cars
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (lxZ71)
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To retaliate on theirs, and I understand why they chose not to back down on that point. I read somewhere that Volkswagen AG game-planned it and found that if the EU tariffs on US autos came down, then it made or sense for VAG to build their Euro-spec cars in their US plants - and expand those plants - and import them into Europe.

There's no way Germany lets that happen, so a mutual tariff is where we end up instead of bidirectional non-tarifed trade.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (I2dne)

323 It's from last night when we talked about the Nazis bringing liverwurst to the Balkans during the war. I'm just needling Palp if he's around.


Oh. Your cause is just. Proceed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:00 PM (fuK7c)

324 So true about the double standard in the law. People here are asking why they have to clean their glass trash when bums can shoot up in public and shit in the street. Lots of anger rising up in ca.

Posted by: Pj at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (qlTN9)

325 The left took very little the right didn't give it. The ostensible right.
Has Jonah Geldberg - 'On the American Road' - hidden behind Geo Washington yet today to obscenely insult another possibly unseemly member of the religious community? On Twatter? Because: Conservatism?
Trump is the accidental president. He will be squandered.

Posted by: Ten at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (Xlssn)

326 This is horrible stuff. Innocent people are probably going to be injured and its tragic. When you've rarely been exposed to more than a paper cut, only to have someone attempt to bash your head in with a bludgeon at a peaceful demonstration, well, it is an eye-opening experience. Ugly, totally avoidable situations when law enforcement upholds their end of the social compact.

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (CdLX2)

327 Antifa and the Brown shirts went after each other viciously.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (Y274z)

328 Omorosa could have slipped a Galaxy Note into her bra set to record...
............

or a reel to reel in her Doomsday Machine

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 08:01 PM (HgMAr)

329 234 Gabe Malor was talking like this is the end of Trump and that he and
Bill Kristol will be treated as conquerors at the HQ tomorrow.


Oh geez
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:44 PM

Yea, I had a dream I banged Markie Post and Heather Thomas after being a guest star on "The Fall Guy" because Lee Majors was sick. There's many things these nevertrumpers have dreamed of. Keep dreaming. Maybe Gabe had a dream that he and Billy Kristolnacht had a make out scene on the Lido deck at night. Not that there's anything wrong with that.....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (VZV4A)

330 207 The only candidate running for relection that has even spoken on this is Ted Cruz.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 07:41 PM (Xpw10


Spoken on what, specifically, please?

Posted by: Emmie at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (4HMW8)

331 o retaliate on theirs, and I understand why they chose not to back down on that point. I read somewhere that Volkswagen AG game-planned it and found that if the EU tariffs on US autos came down, then it made or sense for VAG Front Hole to build their Euro-spec cars in their US plants - and expand those plants - and import them into Europe.

There's no way Germany lets that happen, so a mutual tariff is where we end up instead of bidirectional non-tarifed trade.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

FIFY

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (Iccum)

332 How come' out of the blue, Sessions endorsed Trump ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (7rpiB)

Remember, at that time, Trump was a weapon-banning, pro-abortion, progressive taxation, single payer healthcare leftist.
Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (BTA9k)



Total bullshit. Sessions was instrumental in Trump's campaign. It goes back to an open letter and some memos Sessions wrote to the country about the Establishment. It did not come from "out of the blue". He was there from the beginning.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (Nt/TS)

333 In every small hamlet throughout the country, there are one or two corrupt businessmen that run the show. They are who your local representatives bastardize the law on behalf of. They are the ones that make the payments.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 21, 2018 07:59 PM (JJ9bx)

Yup......I have dealt with city, county, state and federal officials.

At every level and in every instance, the government and it's reps were corrupt and self serving to the core.

The facade is to make the average ignorant citizen feel comfortable while it goes on.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (EoRCO)

334 For years it has been Underpants Gnome thinking on fixing DC.

1. Elect Bullsworth
2. ...
3. Victory

Well #2 turns out to be Trump. And people are now whining "but he's not OUR Bullsworth!"

To which I paraphrase Rumsfeld, "You fight with what you got."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (YEriz)

335 FIFY
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (Iccum)
++++++++
Fistbump.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (I2dne)

336 Antifa trying to shut down Faith Goldy's Toronto mayoral campaign:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA8S6FmTd8Y

Posted by: Off the reservation at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (vWMNq)

337 Yea, I had a dream I banged Markie Post and Heather Thomas after being a guest star on "The Fall Guy"

****************

I had a dream where Jessica Alba and Zooey Deschanel both had the hots for me but because they didn't want to share me they duked it out in a mud wrestling contest.

Why can't real life be this way?

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (+dsLj)

338 Gabe can go do a double shift at the glory hole to celebrate.Connecting this bullshit as a campaign finance violation is @ stretch and you are going to remove a president for it?LOLEnjoy your bag of dicks Gabe.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (mCMQ5)

339
A federal grand jury indicted Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) and his wife on Tuesday evening on charges of misusing campaign funds for personal expenses. Funny how this happens on the same day as Cohen and Manafort.

I think he was scheduled to win that district and am wondering what can be done? I believe he beat his Rep. opponent by a lot and I think the 2 people with the largest amount of votes, regardless of Party would run against each other.
Anybody in Ca. that knows about how this would work?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (hECVl)

340 I think, in God's Providence, that the exceptional America will prevail.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (lwiT4)

Then it's just Faith grammie ... plenty of God Fearin' Southerners felt the same.

Didn't work out.

I have no doubt ... if there's a next world ... you're a shoe-in.

I'm game-planning this one, though. Kind of all-in. Pot Committed, as we say on the card table.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
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You're antagonistic to grammie's commitment for the good to win. To what are you Pot Committed?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (ylXIx)

341 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)

342 Start with stealth. Select target, do recon, choose the time and place most to your advantage, use a hammer, knife, or some other silent means. Always attack from the rear. Sanitize the weapon and discard it in a dumpster 50 miles away from the scene of the deed. Burn the clothes you wore including footwear.

Wait for the time to start shooting. Be of good cheer.

Posted by: colfax mingo at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (NgPkP)

343 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (Nt/TS)

I don't think Levin even does his Levin Surge thing anymore. Yes, I've called and left messages with the snarky intern girls. If commies cared what you think they wouldn't go to such lengths to silence us.

There us the option of a peaceful separation. It doesn't have to be war, but this isn't the 80's anymore and our government is more corrupt than Mexico.

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (BTA9k)

344 The facade is to make the average ignorant citizen feel comfortable while it goes on.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:02 PM (EoRCO)


Yep. And it mostly works.

To the point that the Serfs get pissed off when they don't get to observe their Song of Allegiance before the Gladiators get started.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (fiGNd)

345 Glad you enjoyed the pie Empress. Last night my store had a surplus of blueberry pies marked-down. Been happily snacking down the one I allowed myself.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (YEriz)

346 The ultra-woke beating the shit out of the not-woke-enough?

Can you pronounce autophagy? I know you can.

Posted by: Mr. Rogers 'hood. at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (RfnqA)

347 Wonder how long he will go on? I think he could go on until 11

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (lxZ71)

348 Revolutions overthrow governemtns. Civil war is
disintegration of law and order when no one is in charge, and rule of
the gun takes over. Are were there yet ?


Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (bUjCl)

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Semantically, you're right - but that's not how history books are written.The American Civil War was a revolution that failed, and the victors labeled it a civil war. The Russian Revolution was a breakdown of law and order where the rule of the gun took over, and the last men standing labeled it a revolution.

And, we're not there yet. Don't know what'll be the spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)

349 Fox dropped coverage but Fox business has it

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:58 PM (lxZ71)
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Been watching it on FNC now.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (hECVl)

350 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)



I love him loving this.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (lwiT4)

351 It looks like he hit him in the back of the head with an umbrella

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (SiINZ)

352 Is there any doubt there is a conspiracy to get the Democrats the congressional majority?Obama had 8 years plus the natural left wong tilt o stock the bureaucracy.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (mCMQ5)

353 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

354 There us the option of a peaceful separation. It doesn't have to be war, but this isn't the 80's anymore and our government is more corrupt than Mexico.
Posted by: SERENITY NOW

Who gets to wear the colander face mask and tell the left to "just walk away."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (Iccum)

355 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:53 PM (fiGNd)
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You're antagonistic to grammie's commitment for the good to win. To what are you Pot Committed?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (ylXIx)


Slick ... believe what you want. But read a History Book or two along the way.

Plenty of Jews, I assume, took their last showers thinking The Good Guys Will Win.

Maybe they do, in the Macro-Sense. But I'm strictly working in the Micro here.

If you're thinking Macro ... we ain't got much to talk about. Other than Get Out Of My Way.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

356 353 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (IqV8l)

About to fall on his face.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

357 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)


Please please please.

Also crappity now I want turkey. Which is delicious, Bander, you wrong being of wrongness.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (dEQP3)

358 "Over my skates"

Is that a synonym for "Bollard bombing"???

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (YEriz)

359 I love how I'm here with extreme violent thoughts about what I want to do to leftists and Trump is talking about cookies.

LOL

I think I'd probably do well to follow his example more often.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (+dsLj)

360 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

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Ass over teakettle.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM (UiRxW)

361 Is there any doubt there is a conspiracy to get the Democrats the congressional majority?Obama had 8 years plus the natural left wong tilt o stock the bureaucracy.
Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:06 PM (mCMQ5)

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They may get the House. They have no path to even come close in the Senate.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (I16G8)

362 Evening all! Love PDT, but the greatest thing ever would be if he gave a shout out to Ace and the Moron Horde at the end of his presidency in 2024. And finally admits that he is Ace.

Posted by: Jmel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (OeWgo)

363 I wonder if PDT actually calls Trudeau "Justin" without any honorific or even a last name.

If he does, I'd bet a fair amount of money that Trudeau doesn't call PDT "Donald."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (I2dne)

364 Emmie, Ted has said that he has seen more outright anger in this Country than ever before. Ted is campaigning hard and he has his ear to the ground , so to speak.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (Xpw10)

365 The Empress Elle Trip to Fanning?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (YEriz)

366 I had a dream where Jessica Alba and Zooey Deschanel both had the hots for me but because they didn't want to share me they duked it out in a mud wrestling contest.

Why can't real life be this way?
Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM

Well that would work too! Gabe Billy, Jonuh and the rest of the cucks with their CNN bulls can dream all they want. At worst they got a finance violation which is a fine to the Trump campaign. Yet no collusion, no RUSSSSSIIAAA! nothing but a bunch of shysters getting clipped for tax shit that had nothing to do with Trump. Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (VZV4A)

367 348
And, we're not there yet. Don't know what'll be the spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)


That would do it. That would be the Uniparty telling the Deplorables, "Fuck you. It's not your country anymore. It belongs to us now."

There is something else that could spark it that I would rather not mention.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (sdi6R)

368 Also crappity now I want turkey. Which is delicious, Bander, you wrong being of wrongness.
Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:08 PM

Has someone been slandering the deliciousness that is turkey?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (mxvSl)

369 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (VZV4A)



...... and this was in June.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (lwiT4)

370 Don't know what'll be the spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)
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Or when antifa attacks become a nightly event.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM (ylXIx)

371 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.


It's the same as "out over my skis". If you're skating or skiing aggressively your weight is forward. Your center of gravity is actually just in front of the sweet spot on your skates of skis.

If you get too aggressive, you're too far over your skis, you fall on your face.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (fuK7c)

372 "I may be naive, but that's what I think. In the end, I think the good guys win. In fact, I know it.
"

imo we need to act like our founders to make the good win. We can't wait for the third heaven and earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

or at least, we can have "peace in our time", or we can wander in the wilderness. The world has mostly been run by the corrupt, or as Western Civ progressed, the less corrupt tried to avoid the pitfalls of the masses rebelling.

Now we have the corrupt of WallSt and their paper trillions, their shadow unregulated derivatives quadrillion, just trying to keep the people of the last free hill (to not die on) of America to stay quiet as they marginalize us with third world imports. And so many (even Trump) play in the paper investment world of contrived trillions, and 2Big2Fail/Jail leveraged (almost) trillionaires.

Too many of the middle have their retirement invested in China and the oligarch "manifest fiat currency destiny". Even Richard Dreyfus on tucker said we need to reinforce the preamble ... teach civics. It will be a road to recovery based on that, not oligarch NWO control of humans as widgets.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (bT8Z4)

373 My dreams never include famous hotties as far as I can remember.Old girlfriends usually....

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (mCMQ5)

374 It's the same as "out over my skis". If you're skating or skiing aggressively your weight is forward. Your center of gravity is actually just in front of the sweet spot on your skates of skis.

If you get too aggressive, you're too far over your skis, you fall on your face.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:11 PM (fuK7c)



It suddenly occurs to me there is an obvious reason why I can't ski.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (dEQP3)

375 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

You did not answer the question.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (ylXIx)

376 I should be in bed, asleep. But this is entertaining

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (lxZ71)

377 The Anti-Falafals really need to step up their game. Stop pooping on Po-Po cars and move to burning Prius with the wrong bumper sticker slogans on them.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (YEriz)

378 369 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.

...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (qul7b)

379 There is something else that could spark it that I would rather not mention.
Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:09

That would spark a war these fools can't begin to conceive.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (mxvSl)

380 Really good point.
antifa did not attack a Bernie supporter.
antifa attacked a man carrying a flag.
so that means... any American is a target now.
Any.
American.
And the MSM is totes ok with this.

Posted by: shibumi at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (SbIX4)

381 And, we're not there yet. Don't know what'll be the
spark. One near-term possibility? Dems take the House in November, and
draft Articles. Republicunts in the Senate convict. Hell follows.


Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:05 PM (UiRxW)

I had serious concerns in 2008, obama doing enough damage to the point where we could never recover - make the US into the European union with no way back. then ..the TEA party, Congress turned over and the only thing he could do is executive order. All his legacy trashed in the first year of Trump. They are trying to stop it - Russia Kolyzhion is all they have.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (bUjCl)

382 It suddenly occurs to me there is an obvious reason why I can't ski.

Talking that center of mass problem again and why 4in heels are your enemy?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (YEriz)

383 Emmie, Ted has said that he has seen more outright anger in this Country than ever before. Ted is campaigning hard and he has his ear to the ground , so to speak.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (Xpw10)


Thank you, Ben Had. I have a special interest in Ted Cruz. I'm watching to see if he remains consistent with my initial impression.

Posted by: Emmie at August 21, 2018 08:13 PM (4HMW8)

384 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.

...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits

Turning into a David Allen Coe song here.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (Iccum)

385 You know who says "over my skates"?Snow Wops that's who!

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (mCMQ5)

386 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:09 PM (VZV4A)



...... and this was in June.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:10 PM

LOL Hey it's snowed here in June, not enough for a blizzard, OK, maybe her car broke down...or it was a dark stormy (not that ho) night....Oh I forgot to mention, we were the only ones left on the planet and were tasked with repopulating earth. I just never had the heart to tell her I was fixed.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (VZV4A)

387 What does "over my skates" mean? BING gets no hits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (IqV8l)


Running out of talent, as the NASCAR drivers say. Getting in over my head.

It's self-deprecating.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (fiGNd)

388 >>I love him loving this.

The tax cut, cut, cut, cut bill.

He is not just doing what I want and far exceeding my expectations he is endlessly entertaining. I have no idea what will come out his mouth next but I doubt it will be religion of peace.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (/tuJf)

389 Oh man Trump just point blank going after the notion that he's going to censor anyone is awesome.

And good for him for bringing up Right to Try.

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (dEQP3)

390 this was Dreyfus in 2017 on Tucker ... pushing civics in schools

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gzS2z_8wpA

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 08:15 PM (bT8Z4)

391 Anyone check on Mika?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (YEriz)

392 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.
...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.
...... and she had some DVD's of her and several hotties making sweet lipstick lesbian love.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (qul7b)

393 Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:04

I just heard the 1st congresscritter to endorse Trump was indicted for something. Duncan Hunter was the 2nd. See a pattern here? They want to f@#k everyone who got Trump elected.

Manafort and Cohen wouldn't be in court unless they worked for Trump. Others skated on more, who was that NJ senator that slole/lost billions and got off scott free? Deep state at work.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (yJ1e6)

394 341 He's just free styling now. He might segue into Space Force at any moment.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:04 PM (/tuJf)


Speaking of which, last night I mentioned that there is a European satellite that is designed to measure winds in the Earth's atmosphere. Its launch has been delayed by high winds at the launch site. I found that hilarious.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (sdi6R)

395 I think GW and SDogg are both correct.

We need to keep the higher values of our esteemed founders tucked away in the corner of our hearts (good guy values)when the time comes and you have to eliminate those who wish you harm, have a "co-exist" bumper sticker and wave the Antifa laundry.

Even if this means half the people living on your block. Even if they are related to you. Even if.....

Then after it is done, pull that little goodness out of your inner heart and let it redeem you somewhat.

But remain vigilant and be prepared to do what has to be done.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (EoRCO)

396 osted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM
...Yes, go on...

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:17 PM (VZV4A)

397 The Star Trek episode The Arena is on H&I channel. Second only to the Hippie episode Eden to make me laugh.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (2DOZq)

398 I should just go to bed, he might still be going when I get up

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (lxZ71)

399 And there it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (/tuJf)

400 Space Force!


Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:18 PM (dEQP3)

401 space FORCE !

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (bUjCl)

402 And Space Force!

Give JackStraw a pickle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (fuK7c)

403 Then there was the time I was at my cabin and Shania Twain showed up during a blizzard. We were snowed in for days....
...... and this was in June.
...... and she was out 4-wheeling from the still by herself with a truck full of 'shine.
...... and she had some DVD's of her and several hotties making sweet lipstick lesbian love.
...... and a 32 oz bottle of warming Astroglide had just spilled all over her only pair of clothes.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (qul7b)

404 Send Nikky Haley to space !

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (bUjCl)

405 SPAAACE FORCE!

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (sdi6R)

406 Manafort and Cohen wouldn't be in court unless they worked for Trump. Others skated on more, who was that NJ senator that slole/lost billions and got off scott free? Deep state at work.
Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:16 PM (yJ1e6)
++++++++++
You talking about Jon "The Jersey Devil" Corzine? Yeah, tearing down the ring-fence between customer and broker money to go all-in on peripheral European sovereign bonds when it is convenient for his buddy in the white house (and his buddy who used to live there) to have that happen should have landed him in a #meInTheAss prison for a very long time. Curiously, nothing happened. Peculiar.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (I2dne)

407 Send Nikky Haley to space !
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (bUjCl)



I'll um brb

Posted by: alexthechick - Superelite Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (dEQP3)

408 My boy is in the VA. You can bet your bottom dollar he's getting the vets what they are entitled to. There will be no "You're Fired" for him.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (lwiT4)

409 Trump speech/music/book nood

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (Iccum)

410 I did a political discussion group for a while here in town. We had a good group of D and R and had lively but productive discussions about unfunded liability and healthcare.

I wanted to move on to a Civics class. o made that impossible. You could be prosecuted under his rules.
I will go back and dig up the news articles about it. It did happen here.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:20 PM (Xpw10)

411 A few weeks ago I saw an antifa street peddler artist working on his really shitty geometric paintings. He was sporting full on fascist regalia including facemask. Our city doesn't permit street peddling outside of organized crafts fairs.

He had already spilled his turpentine wash and oil paints on the sidewalk. His canvases were yellowed old birch kitchen cabinet doors - his slapdash display blocked the whole sidewalk. I can appreciate art if said art is well executed. His art was just terrible. He claimed to have sold one of his works.

The police just cruised by. Nothing to see here, folks.

Posted by: 13times at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (K3B2k)

412 Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:07 PM (fiGNd)

You did not answer the question.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 08:12 PM (ylXIx)


Of course I did. You just don't like the answer.

Because the answer is ... I don't give a shit about your faith.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:21 PM (fiGNd)

413 Gone fishing...

https://tinyurl.com/ydad28uv

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (jDF8P)

414 JERUSALEM!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (lwiT4)

415
If you get too aggressive, you're too far over your skis, you fall on your face.
Posted by: Bandersnatch


The agony of deface.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (IqV8l)

416 Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 08:14 PM (VZV4A)

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First year I lived in Colorado's Front Range, I was ten. Moved here in the winter, which turned to spring and summer, and in the exceedingly beautiful way it does in the Rockies. Coming from Pittsburgh I was loving everything about my new home. And then, it snowed. On the Fourth of July.

Nothing like it has happened since, but with no frame of reference, I this was the normal order, and questioned whether my dad made the right call.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:22 PM (UiRxW)

417 Good analysis, well stated Ace.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at August 21, 2018 08:24 PM (IDhUW)

418 LOL, Trump is telling the WV crowd THEY are the elite! Love it.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (yJ1e6)

419 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (I2dne)

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And, IIRC, he resides in style on some non-extradiion tropical isle with a mai-tai like an evil-ass "Milton" from "Office Space."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (UiRxW)

420 Missed what trump said about censorship> Anyone catch what he said?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (hECVl)

421 Speaking of which, last night I mentioned that there is a European
satellite that is designed to measure winds in the Earth's atmosphere.
Its launch has been delayed by high winds at the launch site. I found
that hilarious.
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Lucky it doesn't track flatulence.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2018 08:26 PM (Evws/)

422 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 08:19 PM (I2dne)


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And, spot on, BTW. Except: you forgot one salient point. You described the crime, but not the victims with standing: MF Global investors (who all lost millions), and CME traders, who also lost millions.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:28 PM (UiRxW)

423 Shit ... Hey Miley.



With all you got goin' on ... surprised you're here.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 07:56 PM (fiGNd)

Everyone needs a bit of escape, right?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)

424 the baby pies are good too, Anna.
i have freezed, then baked until bubbly.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 08:33 PM (Tm+wy)

425 Everyone needs a bit of escape, right?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)


Ain't that the truth.

*wink*

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (fiGNd)

426 Of course YouTube has to bombard you with BREAKING. stories about Manafort convictions.Fuck off.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 08:35 PM (mCMQ5)

427 Everyone needs a bit of escape, right?


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:31 PM (txw6d)

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I think you misspelled "bourbon," Miley.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (UiRxW)

428 Yes, Scogg. Kipling wrote about that.
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And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (vDqXW)

429 I think you misspelled "bourbon," Miley.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (UiRxW)

I think I ran out of bourbon, YD.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (txw6d)

430 The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!



Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (vDqXW)

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One of the English language's masterworks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (UiRxW)

431 Hell, it's 4:20 somewhere, or will be soon enough.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:38 PM (txw6d)

432 Fourth Turnings are the time of revolution, and we're about 2/3 of the way through a 4th Turning.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 08:39 PM (XMhQP)

433 Miley, when all is settled, I will offer you a long weekend in Texas with plenty of food and drink and space.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (Xpw10)

434 🚀 SPACE FORCE!!!

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (bML9A)

435 I never understood that Copybook poem.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (XMhQP)

436 Yes, Scogg. Kipling wrote about that.
---
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:36 PM (vDqXW)


The last full-time job I had ... I put that poem on my office door.

Not a single one of those fuckers understood it. Doctorates, Masters Degrees, Ivy League ... mattered not.

It's one of the best pieces of Western Literature ever written.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (fiGNd)

437 I would love a long weekend in Texas with plenty of food and drink and space, Ben Had. And ammo. I think shooting would make me feel good, and it's been way too long.
Sure wish I could see y'all in October, but I have some serious business that will take precedence once this situation reaches a plateau. Life-changing business.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (txw6d)

438 I never understood that Copybook poem.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 08:42 PM (XMhQP)


You are shitting me. Are you serious ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (fiGNd)

439 I think I ran out of bourbon, YD.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:37 PM (txw6d)

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Look - there's an outfit from Lawrenceburg, KY that ships high-test stuff nationwide, even to a retail outlet near you. Don't get caught short-handed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (UiRxW)

440
Interesting read thus far. I'm gonna stand with Grammie Winger and say the exceptional country will prevail, just as it has through similar situations, in no small part because of it's extraordinary people.

You've all seen examples of them, they are still here among us.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (S/hVx)

441 Look - there's an outfit from Lawrenceburg, KY that
ships high-test stuff nationwide, even to a retail outlet near you.
Don't get caught short-handed.


Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 08:44 PM (UiRxW)
You're right, I must hie to a liquor outlet at the first possible opportunity.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:46 PM (txw6d)

442 Begriffsschrift, a Formula Language, Modeled Upon That of Arithmetic, for Pure Thought

by Gottlob Frege.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:47 PM (vDqXW)

443 No expiration date, Dear Lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2018 08:48 PM (Xpw10)

444 Thank you, Ben Had!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (txw6d)

445 It's one of the best pieces of Western Literature ever written.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 08:43 PM (fiGNd)
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Absolutely. I was astounded that I paid so little attention to Kipling.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 08:50 PM (vDqXW)

446 Imran Awan got 3 months of supervised released. Judge liked his anti Trump rant so much, she waved the fine he had been given.

We're hosed.....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 08:51 PM (Enq6K)

447 I've mentioned before that I work in the media, in a job where I field letters from angry readers, both left and right. For whatever reason -- probably because of that godawful coordinated nationwide editorial whining about Trump calling us names -- the lefties have worked themselves into a fury this week. I've been swamped with Trump-hating letters.

Allow me to illuminate the thinking that currently motivates the left: They are absolutely, positively convinced Trump is Hitler 2.0. Yeah, they say that about every Republican, but this time they really, really, really believe it. They are 100 percent convinced they are living in a nascent totalitarian state, and that prison camps are just around the corner.

And they are quite open about the fact that they regard Republicans as fully complicit in this. I have read more than one letter the past week from lefties who state very clearly that supporting Trump renders a person less worthy of moral concern, if not transforming them into an enemy. Honestly, I think the only reason we aren't in a full-blown civil war yet is that lefties still feel icky about guns. If this were the America of 1918, where comfort with firearms was universal, the shooting would have already started.

If you want my opinion on who's responsible for us reaching this state: I'd place the blame on responsible liberals who refused to build a firewall to their left to keep out the crazies, and the conservatives who weren't forceful enough in demanding they do so.

Here's why: Every outraged lefty I encounter -- every single one -- is worked up about Trump because, essentially, he's "mean." They go on at great length about his supposed offenses, but at the end of the day, that's what it boils down to: He ridicules and insults his opponents and uses crude, demeaning language.

Now you know and I know that us righties have been putting up with this crap from the left for decades -- heck, the reason we love Trump is because he's the first guy who's willing to give it to the left as good as he gets. But for the left, it's a completely new experience. They've never had someone on the right turn their own tactics back on them, so they lack any sense of scale. When you are accustomed to dealing with polite, proper cucks who simply mumble an apology and roll over and play dead if you scream RAAAAACIST loud enough, any sign of sharp defiance assumes enormous significance. It feels like the other side has broken some unspoken but absolutely fundamental contract -- and if they've broken THAT contract, why wouldn't they break EVERY contract?

Though they wouldn't phrase it this way, in the minds of many lefties, there is, or was, an unwritten amendment to the Constitution that says "conservatives have to play by different rules; conservatives aren't allowed to be mean." And so when Trump violates this unwritten amendment, emotionally, it feels to them as if he's violating the written amendments, and they feel like it's only a matter of time -- days or weeks, probably -- until he simply declares the First Amendment null and void or something.

The solution would have been for both sides to make clear at some earlier date that there wasn't actually a secret amendment to the Constitution that applied only to conservatives, and that when conservatives responded tit-for-tat to liberal abuse, it was healthy, if heated, debate, and not the End of Democracy. That would have given the left an incentive to behave, which in turn wouldn't have given them the false confidence that led to their being blindsided by Trump.

But that's not what happened. And now the left is in what I can only describe as a pre-civil war state. They have, in their own minds, arrived at a point where they think it's morally acceptable for SOMEONE ELSE to attack and even murder conservatives -- not themselves, of course, but some other righteous leftist, like those antifa guys. All they require now is the last push to get to a place where they'd be willing to pull the trigger themselves.

So there's nothing to do but sit back and wait for the spark.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (R1mDg)

448 295 So they just did a panning crowd shot at the WV rally and it is strikes me every time that Trump gets more people than a mid-level rock concert (it would be fuller with a top-level rock concert, but that's what it would take).

Is this unusual in our history? I can't remember politicians ever crowds like this, and can't fathom it in a midterm year. I don't know whether to be pleased or distressed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 21, 2018 07:55 PM (I2dne)

I was interested in politics as a 12 year old in 1968, and ever since, first voted in '76, and after thinking of this, the only 2 I can think of were Bobby Kennedy in his final few months for both being JFK's brother on the rebound and standing up for the anti-war movement of 1968, and the Black Hezooz because voting for him washed the sin of racism from white-guilted minds.


But nothing to compare to the solid 2 years of Trump campaign rallies. Nothing else is close, even the JEF in 2008. It was more just an event to be seen at, not an emotional revival the likes of a Billy Graham concert likes Trump creates.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (UsCnO)

449 They have, in their own minds, arrived at a point where they think it's morally acceptable for SOMEONE ELSE to attack and even murder conservatives

Meh ... makes perfect sense.

Still people here that think it's great strategy for somebody else to take a bike-like to the head and not react.

Same ol' Same ol'.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (fiGNd)

450 By the way, that law that the DOJ won't enforce, 18 U.S. Code 241 is the one that contains the part that makes it a federal felony to go in disguise on the highway and deprive someone of their Constitutional rights. In my complaint to the DOJ Inspector General I point that out. Everyone of those Antifa clowns earned a 10 year Federal Prison sentence for being part of that conspiracy.
Can you understand why I am so angry at the US Attorneys for their 148 year history of not enforcing that law against people who conspire to violate 1st and 2nd amendment rights? Bastards - the coming civil war is directly their fault.

Posted by: An Observation at August 21, 2018 09:01 PM (RuuTb)

451 How does Anti Fa not meet any of several anti KKK laws and anti terrorism laws?
To my understanding the US Attorneys have a lot of discretion in their own jurisdiction as to who they indict?
Can't one US Attorney appointed by Boosh or DJT figure it out and start prosecuting some of these jokers?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 21, 2018 09:06 PM (j4US8)

452 449 They have, in their own minds, arrived at a point where they think it's morally acceptable for SOMEONE ELSE to attack and even murder conservatives

Meh ... makes perfect sense.

Still people here that think it's great strategy for somebody else to take a bike-like to the head and not react.

Same ol' Same ol'.

Posted by: ScoggDog at August 21, 2018 09:00 PM (fiGNd)

You make a good point, Scogg. If one is going to a demonstration where conservatives are going to be attacked by Antifa blackshirts with masks, one should plan on rumbling. Good old fashioned beat downs with fists and sticks and bats.

Instead, our side (except for Based StickMan and a few bikers from time to time) stand there and take the bonks over the head with bike locks.


Kind of embarrassing, and that will probably change soon as the heat is turned up by the Commie side.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 09:14 PM (UsCnO)

453 (420) Bleeeeeeeep.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 21, 2018 09:17 PM (RuIsu)

454 So the killer of Mollie was 24, illegally here for 4-7 yrs. One of Obamas Dreamers? Thanks
BO.

Posted by: Farmer at August 21, 2018 09:22 PM (yJ1e6)

455 This is, among other things, a failure of governance. This is why we have the FBI and the NSA. They're supposed to be infiltrating these violent groups, gathering data, getting convictions. I mean, even ignoring state governments. Sure, you expect New York to let these people run wild with a wink and a nod, but what about Alabama, or Idaho?

We have a Republican president and a Republican Congress. If that still isn't enough to get federal law enforcement involved when leftist gangs are chasing normal people from the streets, things have already gone past the tipping point.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (h2Bdk)

456 Is this where I buy remote detonated explosive bags of dicks to throw at our enemies? Or had this not a thing....yet?

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 09:25 PM (sFofr)

457 447---Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (R1mDg)
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Very well said.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (0jtPF)

458 Posted by: Ex-liberal at August 21, 2018 08:56 PM (R1mDg)
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Thanks. Good read.

Posted by: Axeman at August 21, 2018 09:43 PM (vDqXW)

459 Note this only happens where the government has infringed 2A rights for citizens.
I carry everywhere I can legally carry and almost never go to places I cannot.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 21, 2018 09:44 PM (xUc0d)

460 You have to choose between Chile and Venezuela. Sorry.

Hey, at least there will be free helicopter rides for the kids.

Posted by: Mentus at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (PRxea)

461 I thought the prick deserved it for being a Bernie supporter ergo a violent anti-Trump activist. I laughed my ass off. Hopefully he learned a lesson because I can guarantee his abusers didn't.

Posted by: Victoria at August 21, 2018 09:47 PM (k4uwn)

462 @447:

What an amazing, brilliant comment, chilling but true.

"Honestly, I think the only reason we aren't in a full-blown civil war yet is that lefties still feel icky about guns. If this were the America of 1918, where comfort with firearms was universal, the shooting would have already started. "


You are one hundred percent correct. As their Antifa shock troops get bolder and the police even more complicit in the violence, initially a few run-of-the-mill liberals will try some violence themselves and then a few more and then guns will become lefty hip. The spark will be when the Right shoot back. As Ace wrote, THAT'S out of bounds. I wish it would happen after I'm in the ground but it is accelerating exponentially and probably not far off.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 21, 2018 09:54 PM (0VQh3)

Former Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty to Campaign Finance Violations;
Claims He Paid Off Mistresses at Trump's "Direction" with "Purpose of Influencing Election"

Strange way to describe what would be seen in other contexts as "paying off a potential or actual blackmailer."

US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty in a Manhattan court to violating campaign finance laws.

He said he did so at the direction of "the candidate" and that he acted for the "purpose of influencing election".

Mr Cohen's admission was related to hush money paid to Mr Trump's alleged mistresses.

The 51-year-old admitted eight counts, including tax and bank fraud in a plea deal with prosecutors.

In the court on Tuesday he said that he had been directed by "a candidate for federal office" to break federal election laws.

In other news, Hillary Clinton deliberately concealed the purpose of her Fusion GPS payments as run-of-the-mill "legal services" payments to Perkins-Coie and hardly a word about that has been mentioned in the media, let alone by any federal prosecutor or DOJ staffer.

Apparently some violations of FEC laws are good and just, so long as you're a Democrat; then no one can say what your "intent" is.

Speaking of intent, that's pretty important here. The reason Cohen claimed Trump did this with the "purpose of influencing the election" is 1, because that's what prosecutors wanted him to say for his deal and 2, candidates do not have to disclose non-campaign expenditures for everything. They don't have to disclose that they spent money to see a Broadway show, for example.

Even if they were photographed there and that, somehow, wound up making the news and advancing their campaign.

So this payment is only of any legal consequence if it was made with the primary intent of influencing the election.

And not, say, avoiding embarrassment and marital strife.

In Trump's case, he can say, and probably will say, "I didn't make that payment to advance my campaign, I made it because I felt that these women would try to cash in and talk about this, which would harm my relationship with my wife."

Which, obviously, it would. In fact, the media has been making just this case, by breathlessly reporting that Melania wasn't staying at the White House and was deliberately avoiding appearing in public because she was upset by the betrayal.

So: How do you establish his intent was actually to "influence the election" and not just "avoid a strain on my marriage"? One can say that both are in play, but you'd have to prove he had the primary intent of doing one rather than the other.

Because there's no law against paying hush-money to someone who might want to damage your reputation.

Now, maybe Cohen has tapes of Trump specifically tying this to his election campaign. But maybe we just have to take his word for it.

And again, if this is now a Very Serious Offence: It's been known for a year that Hillary Clinton deliberately hid the purpose of her payments to Perkins Coie as "legal services" when in fact a big chunk of that money went for oppo research.

Rather than simply omitting mention of them, she filed a deliberately false report for the purpose of disguising the nature of the payment.

Why is Trump required to disclose the purpose of every nickel he spent in 2016 while Hillary Clinton is permitted to straight-up file false reports with the FEC without any criminal investigation whatsoever?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:55 PM




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1 What a scumbag.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (NWiLs)

2 If Hillary had won, the Super Cuck Ace would be arguing about why is it only Hillary has to disclose every nickel.

You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)

3 If paying if mistresses is an election violation, zombie Nixon was robbed!

Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (tvzmd)

4 Fuck Cohen, but most of all Fuck Rip Van Sessions.... Without his stupid recusal none of this would have happened

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (O2RFr)

5
Posted by: Cato

Fuck you, dunce.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (LWYzG)

6 It's my personal opinion that both Manafort and Cohen will acquire a new found taste for cock.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (iiixZ)

7 Pleading the fifth?

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (4TJc6)

8 And just like that * there goes the news about Mollie Tibbett's murderer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (ptqGC)

9 >>>2 If Hillary had won, the Super Cuck Ace would be arguing about why is it only Hillary has to disclose every nickel.

You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.
Posted by: Cato

What did I say that was wrong, Cuck?

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (PA9oZ)

10 Ace, your last question is rhetorical. Right?

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (4TJc6)

11 Trump, like everyone, thought he was going to lose, and this was a popularity scheme to advance his image. So paying off the mistress was not to advance his lost-cause election, but to protect his reputation.

Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (tvzmd)

12 If you motorboat the tit you must acquit.

Posted by: BadJohnnyCochranSock at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (FhXTo)

13 Does the pooch have a back hole?

Posted by: Cato the Front Hole at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (Tyii7)

14 That's TWO, comrade!

Posted by: Lavrenti Beria at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (Mouru)

15 Claims He Paid Off Mistresses at Trump's "Direction" with "Purpose of Influencing Election"

Yeah ... though it's clear he meant this as anyone taking care of a possible problem would "influence an election", not in any silly Russian sort of thing. But the MFM is running with the "purpose of influencing election" as if Mueller's witch hunt has hit the jackpot.

Of course, in this context, everything someone in a campaign does is with the "purpose of influencing election". After all, they're trying to win the damn thing. Have to influence it to win it, generally.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (63i9Y)

16 The Cucks and the progs don't have any explanation as to why Hillary Clinton's false FEC filings were somehow kosher.

So they just shriek. As usual.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (PA9oZ)

17 I predict Murderin' Joe Scarborough's hair will be even more pouffy tomorrow. He, Mika and what they call their "salon" will be all indignant and full of themselves.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (ptqGC)

18 Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)

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GFY, one name new dipshit.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (I16G8)

19 This kind of loose crap is why I wasn't in favor of Trump to begin with. The man should have had more discipline than to put himself in this position. I find it very hard to respect people who cheat on their wives like this. I said that about Bill Clinton, and I'll say it about Trump.

Nonetheless, he's done an outstanding job.

Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (T6t7i)

20 Troll swarm!!!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (Mouru)

21 Get fucked with a horse cock, troll.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (NWiLs)

22 Hillary is out in the public making speeches for to raise money for the DNC. If she felt safw, she would be retired on an island or another country living off that CGI and CF cash. Spoiler: she doesn't feel safe and has to stay in politics so she can claim Trump is Hitler when she and her circle finally go down.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (sFofr)

23 Speaking of Joe Scarborough, I wonder if he's ever "blacked out" while with a young woman.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (ptqGC)

24 Hillary also funneled state democrat party contributions to the DNC and then to her campaign coffers to skirt finance law. But no biggie.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (xIfFB)

25 Well you knew there was a reason that Lanny Fucking Davis, the Clinton's arch fixer got involved and was made Cohens counsel.


Basically Trump needs to go thermonuclear and nuke all of this shit from space.


What is going on is a anthitetical to justice as can be imagined.


Jeff Sessions is a Fucking disgrace.

Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (kT3/m)

26 Didn't Hillary Clinton carry Hot Sauce in her purse with the intent of influencing the election?

Didn't Michele Bachman eat a Corn Dog with the intent of influencing the election?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (g5KCb)

27 There's also the matter Donna Brazile made public: Hillary campaign laundering $80 million (or more?) through local DNC offices.

I mean, if we're concerned about campaign finance violations, this one seems a bit more serious that a few women getting paid to STFU...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (W+vEI)

28 The Jon Edwards precedent is in play here. He was charged in a case where he directed his top campaign contributors to pay off his mistress, during his campaign - and he was found innocent.

In this case these aren't even contributions, Trump paid the money himself.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (k1TUh)

29 Trump's response will be: I asked Cohen what I should do. I don't want to do anything illegal and asked if I could pay with campaign funds.

Micheal did what Micheal wanted to do. All I wanted to do was not violate laws.

And that's the thing. See Nuremburg. You have an obligation as my attorney that if I say do something illegal and you go and do it, it's on you. You are the one to be advising me. No matter how much I plead with you to do something illegal.

But hey . .. walls are closing in and all that shit.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (q1VoB)

30 That ninja at #2 makes no sense.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (sFofr)

31 Bill Kristol just came all over Jonah Goldberg's face.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)

32
The Jon Edwards precedent is in play here. He was charged in a case
where he directed his top campaign contributors to pay off his mistress,
during his campaign - and he was found innocent.



In this case these aren't even contributions, Trump paid the money himself.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (k1TUh)


But TRUMP!!!111!!!!

---- screaming beasts in the MFM

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (ptqGC)

33 "One law for thee and none for me."

This needs to be put above every courthouse in America.

Hey, at least it's better than "Work Makes Free"......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (EoRCO)

34 The Cucks and the progs don't have any explanation as to why Hillary Clinton's false FEC filings were somehow kosher.

So they just shriek. As usual.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (PA9oZ)


I remember back int he good ol' days ... in 2008, when Barky's campaign paid ACORN almost a million dollars in Ohio (after ACORN was already under serious investigation and charged with some voter fraud, I believe) and, mistakenly, labeled the payments as "lighting expenses". Yep. Barky's just lucky he wasn't running against anyone who knew or cared anything about campaign financing ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (63i9Y)

35 Insomniac, I did not need that mental picture.

Posted by: iwuzhere at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (4TJc6)

36 Bill Kristol just came all over Jonah Goldberg's face.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)


They're doing Jello shots on the Lido deck right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (ptqGC)

37 "Get over it Jake, it's swamptown."

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (LOq4H)

38 Didn't Hillary Clinton carry Hot Sauce in her purse with the intent of influencing the election?

Hillary Clinton shanked Seth Rich to influence the election.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (Mouru)

39 It's now only a matter of weeks, and Hillary will finally be taking her deserved position of our President!

Posted by: ABCBSNBCNN at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (UsCnO)

40 25
Jeff Sessions is a Fucking disgrace.
Posted by: Kreplach at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (kT3/m)

Without mentioning names, I really want to hear the explanations from the Sessions defenders about why his instantaneous recusal will, in effect, lead to the reversal of the counterrevolution back to pre-1913 days.

And please show your work.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (G4W16)

41 And just like that * there goes the news about Mollie Tibbett's murderer.

Do you really think the media was gonna talk about it... The only reason they mentioned it at first is because they suspected a White farmer...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (O2RFr)

42 Why did Trump waive attorney-client privilege?

You can confess past crimes to your attorney and he has to keep his mouth shut, so how does this lawyer get away with revealing client communications?

Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (tvzmd)

43 39 It's now only a matter of weeks, and Hillary will finally be taking her deserved position of our President!

Posted by: ABCBSNBCNN at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (UsCnO)


"Don't rub it in."

- - Les of Moonves

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (G4W16)

44 she doesn't feel safe and has to stay in politics so she can claim Trump is Hitler when she and her circle finally go down.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (sFofr)


No. She doesn't have any money. She needs to keep in the fray so as to live that lifestyle she likes. You think she likes sitting at home watching Trump and drinking gin?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (q1VoB)

45 I'm old enough to remember when Obama was fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for hiding millions in illegal campaign donations. Just a fine, no impeachment and that is for taking millions in illegal donations.

If the only thing Mueller has found is potential FEC violations it's a joke.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (/tuJf)

46 People don't care about stuff like this anyway - the talking heads will drone on, but nada happens and no one cares past the weekend.

Posted by: rammajamma at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (xceTB)

47 >>>41 And just like that * there goes the news about Mollie Tibbett's murderer.

Do you really think the media was gonna talk about it... The only reason they mentioned it at first is because they suspected a White farmer...
Posted by: It's me donna

...

yeah that was never going to be news.

They aren't bothering to hide it any more. They're All-In.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (PA9oZ)

48 I thought Kato was busy Driving Mrs Feinstein.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (HgMAr)

49 Ace: "Why is Trump required to disclose the purpose of every nickel he spent in 2016 while Hillary Clinton is permitted to straight-up file false reports with the FEC without any criminal investigation whatsoever?"

Because shutup.

Posted by: Democrats and the MFM (BIRM) at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (6eEQ+)

50 So Cohen sold out. And BTW, Manafort has been convicted of 8 counts of fraud and tax evasion. No Russia collusion. And Cohen looks like another "process" crime.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (mpXpK)

51 "Don't rub it in."

I'll take "Things Jonah Goldberg didn't say after Bill Kristol came all over his face" for $500.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (NWiLs)

52 Yep, even without expertise in fed election law, can't see how these sorts of payments can be proven to be one thing (illegal) and not the other (common, completely legal).


Beyond that, ace, as noted by others above, there's the wee little issue of what - $83M? - being diverted by Hillary's campaign, I believe in violation of law. There is at least one lawsuit ongoing about this, IIRC.


Then there's actually the *other* clearly improper thing about the Perkins-Coie laundered campaign $: payment to foreign entities for campaign activities. Big no-no. Steele. Probably others. Nope, not legal. Yep, absolutely already known to have happened. Furriners can volunteer info, time, etc., but cannot be paid.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (QDnY+)

53 48 I thought Kato was busy Driving Mrs Feinstein.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (HgMAr)


That was Hop Sing.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (G4W16)

54 Cohen... big time tax issues
Manafort... big time tax issues

Trump... poking Playboy bunnies and tramps.

Russia? AOL.

Hmmmmmm

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (iiixZ)

55 There goes his pardon.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (JUOKG)

56 50 So Cohen sold out. And BTW, Manafort has been convicted of 8 counts of fraud and tax evasion. No Russia collusion. And Cohen looks like another "process" crime.

I guess his next trial is supposed to include more connections to trump...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (O2RFr)

57 As I mentioned on another thread, one hires and pays big money to lawyers to ensure that whatever they are involved in is kept legal. So when one's lawyer knowingly breaks the law, then blames the client, I think the client has a pretty good lawsuit going against the lawyer. Which is why lawyers I would imagine carry professional liability insurance, in case they commit an error or omission, etc.


In Cohen's case, he simply taped his clients.

I hope Trump and maybe Hannity sues this asshole for malpractice.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (YbmG/)

58 31 Bill Kristol just came all over Jonah Goldberg's face.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)

A Lemon Lime Party!

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (sFofr)

59 AWOL damnit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (iiixZ)

60 They're doing Jello shots on the Lido deck right now.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (ptqGC)


That ain't Jello.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (q1VoB)

61 2 If Hillary had won, the Super Cuck Ace would be arguing about why is it only Hillary has to disclose every nickel.

You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)


Soros Troll Alert.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (UsCnO)

62 >>They're doing Jello shots on the Lido deck right now.


Bill Kristol's wife is name Jello-Shots?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (g5KCb)

63 That ain't Jello.

Yeah I was wondering... Didn't think jello came in vanilla

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (O2RFr)

64 How the hell does paying off bimbos influence an election? If he had paid a person or people who had proof he'd colluded with the Russians, that would be different. That didn't happen. For Trump to say he wanted the affairs hidden from his wife is perfectly plausible. I just don't see the big Trump's-goose-is-cooked story here.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (2NqXo)

65 Silly ace . . .

It's actually been illegal to be a Republican for almost 45 years.

They've only just got around to start prosecuting it.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (BfOXk)

66 Lanny Fucking Davis, the Clinton's arch fixer got involved and was made Cohens counsel.

...
That and the fact that Mewler 'colluded' to raid the home of the attorney of the subject of his investigation, in a blatant violation of law .

It's easy to joke that these people are powerless. But they are not.
The Constitution may not be completely dead, but Barack Obama spent 8 years beating it into a coma.

Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (8A18y)

67 I have to tip my hat, Mueller has been able to make some lemonade with nothing.

This was never about Russia, it's just a political hit job and nobody is going to stop him from just dripping out bad news cycles by prosecuting everyone that Trump has ever met. To the point where Mueller can bulldoze into the President's own personal lawyer and seize everything, then leak it to the media.

Sessions and Trump apparently are okay with this because they just keep letting him do it.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (UfkIY)

68 63 That ain't Jello.

Yeah I was wondering... Didn't think jello came in vanilla
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:06 PM (O2RFr)


Pudding. FTW.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (G4W16)

69 What? Yawn. This is just stupid.

Meanwhile, an illegal alien is in custody for the murder of the girl in Iowa and a 7.3 just hit off the coast of northeastern Venezuela.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (u8Nqb)

70 So Cohen sold out. And BTW, Manafort has been convicted of 8 counts of fraud and tax evasion. No Russia collusion. And Cohen looks like another "process" crime.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (mpXpK)

------------

I'm guessing Manafort will get a pardon when all is said and done. Cohen, not so much.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (I16G8)

71 And of course, let us not forget who Cohen's lawyer is:

Lanny Davis. Clinton fixer for decades.

Burn the entire government down, please.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (BfOXk)

72 For God's sake Ace. They got what they wanted: the basis for impeachment or, at the least, a 24 month anti-Trump news cycle. Who cares about Hillary equivalency? She's not in office.

Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (53n3X)

73 So you really want to know why different campaign finance rules apply to Trump and Hillary? Or was that merely rhetorical?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (2sCft)

74 when is anyone going to look into the Clinton Foundation and all the money funneling into clinton coffers while she was SOS. and what's up with the foundation now? no influence, no $$$.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (d7Ww2)

75 Grrrrrrrrr.

This has Lanny Davis' stink all over it.

Posted by: Eleanor: my spirit animal is Bill the Cat at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (QU+qf)

76 What has all this got to do with the original premise of the special counsel - Russian interference in the 2016 election?

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (a0IVu)

77 Oh, you silly fools, letting underlings talk to the authorities. There's a reason guys like us rarely, if ever, had much in the way of legal troubles.
When in doubt....whack 'em out.

Posted by: Zombie Carlo Gambino and Zombie Tony Accardo at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (rznWS)

78 Al Franken still hasn't paid his $4 mil in back taxes, to my knowledge.

Also, all this crap about Brennan losing his security clearance. As Rush pointed out today, Clapper advised Barry to clean house after his first coronation. Said there were entirely too many people with security clearances. I haven't heard how many Bush holdovers lost theirs.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (ptqGC)

79 Burn the entire government down, please.

I starting to hope for SMOD just like the old days

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (O2RFr)

80 when is anyone going to look into the Clinton Foundation and all the money funneling into clinton coffers while she was SOS. and what's up with the foundation now? no influence, no $$$.
Posted by: nurse ratched

_________

Sessions is on the case.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (UfkIY)

81 Never Trumper are probably rejoicing. Smug front holes.

Posted by: hepcat at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (5b+Sr)

82 When's lunch?

Posted by: Touchy Joe Biden at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (14qvS)

83 Trump's response will be: I asked Cohen what I
should do. I don't want to do anything illegal and asked if I could pay
with campaign funds.

Micheal did what Micheal wanted to do. All I wanted to do was not violate laws.

And
that's the thing. See Nuremburg. You have an obligation as my attorney
that if I say do something illegal and you go and do it, it's on you.
You are the one to be advising me. No matter how much I plead with you
to do something illegal.

But hey . .. walls are closing in and all that shit.





Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM

---

Actually Trump is on tape with cohen saying he didn't want to pay cash and then the tape was mysteriously cut off.


They have nothing on Trump.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (JUOKG)

84 44 she doesn't feel safe and has to stay in politics so she can claim Trump is Hitler when she and her circle finally go down.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (sFofr)


No. She doesn't have any money. She needs to keep in the fray so as to live that lifestyle she likes. You think she likes sitting at home watching Trump and drinking gin?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (q1VoB)

There are ongoing investigations into the CGI and CF so the assets could be frozen or seized. It could both scared and broke as fuck.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (sFofr)

85 the trolls are crawling out, I see.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (a0IVu)

86 Pudding. FTW.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (G4W16)

++++
Somehow just don't feel like dippin' in the pudding today.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (2sCft)

87 74 when is anyone going to look into the Clinton Foundation and all the money funneling into clinton coffers while she was SOS. and what's up with the foundation now? no influence, no $$$.

Uh., Never

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (O2RFr)

88 If they can do this to Trump, none of us are safe.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (w7KSn)

89 Huber will come.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (r9UYA)

90 86 Pudding. FTW.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (G4W16)

++++
Somehow just don't feel like dippin' in the pudding today.
Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (2sCft)


Yeah, I know.

I'd pee myself if the judge sentenced Manafort for time served.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (G4W16)

91 What I think is the biggest scandal just got tossed under the rug
Gellerreport- muslim slymaster escapes jailtime
By
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan
The entire Awan spy syndicate was let go.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (lxZ71)

92 Wow, whatta great lawyer, huh ?

Selling his client down the river.

SAD !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (58Au8)

93 84 44 she doesn't feel safe and has to stay in politics so she can claim Trump is Hitler when she and her circle finally go down.


You must not have gotten the message... Trump is now Stalin... Get with the program!

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (O2RFr)

94 Jonathan Turley just made my point about whether the motivation is to influence the election or spare a married man some grief.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (PA9oZ)

95 74 when is anyone going to look into the Clinton Foundation and all the money funneling into clinton coffers while she was SOS. and what's up with the foundation now? no influence, no $$$.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (d7Ww2)

There are multiple active investigations into CF.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (sFofr)

96 I'vvvvvz putzzzv jellozzzz in lotttz ofvvv druggedzzz chcksssvs too.

Posted by: Bill Jello puddin Cosby at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (gmo/4)

97 C'mon, guys! I asked to not be disturbed...

Posted by: Jeff Sessionszzz... at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (n/eZB)

98 95
There are multiple active investigations into CF.
Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (sFofr)


They'll wind up in a ditch. With Vince Foster.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (G4W16)

99 Cohen's tale of paying off the stripper isn't Trump's problem. Whatever the hell else Cohen may tell Mueller now about Trump's shenanigans over the years, true or false, for a favorable sentencing recommendation is Trump's problem.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (cCsPW)

100 Donna, think it's actually the other way around.


First of all, Manafort's FARA stuff relates to Ukraine, years and years before Trump ran for president (so, again, no connection), but beyond that, as I understand it, Manafort was linked up with the pro-EU membership element in Kiev - i.e, the *archenemies* of Moscow in Ukraine.


Haven't bothered to dig into it, so might have it wrong, but that's my understanding.


And as I noted in last thread, actually prosecuting a FARA case like this is actually the biggest F U to the country and the non-corrupt Beltway from Mueller, to date. Such cases exist in their thousands, have never been prosecuted - so selectively prosecuting this one is outrageously punitive and political.


Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (QDnY+)

101 I guess Cohen will no longer be practicing law because a) now a criminal, b) exposed his treachery, and c) records any contacts and breaks trusts to do so.

He may be out of prison, but he'll also be out of gainful employment.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (6eEQ+)

102 52
Yep, even without expertise in fed election law, can't see how these
sorts of payments can be proven to be one thing (illegal) and not the
other (common, completely legal).
....Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:05 PM (QDnY+)

Because this is all a pretext for impeachment, not a trial in normal court. Nothing has to be proven for removal, just enough votes from the Senate.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (rnXGe)

103 For God's sake Ace. They got what they wanted: the
basis for impeachment or, at the least, a 24 month anti-Trump news
cycle. Who cares about Hillary equivalency? She's not in office.



Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than
conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on
the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.


Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM

---

I have $1,000 to get in on the "Trump will be out of office before fall of next year" action. What odds are you giving.?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (JUOKG)

104 Rush also brought this up today:

Comey and Strzok BOTH said Flynn didn't lie when they interviewed him. Yet, he's awaiting sentencing FOR LYING TO THE FBI. (Sorry for shouting.)

The man has lost his house, and is sitting waiting to find out how long he'll be in prison.

Lesson: Never, ever agree to an interview with the FBI.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)

105 C'mon, guys! I asked to not be disturbed...
Posted by: Jeff Sessionszzz... at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (n/eZB)
+++++
Sorry Sleepy Jeff. We'll try to keep it down....

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (2sCft)

106 92 Wow, whatta great lawyer, huh ?

Selling his client down the river.

SAD !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (58Au

This cocksucker will never practice law again.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (NWiLs)

107 I am going to laugh like hell at these idiot trolls when the still-President's numbers stay the same.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (u8Nqb)

108 Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (53n3X)

-----------

You haven't been paying attention to Trump as President, have you? He's not going anywhere.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (I16G8)

109 The gloating on Twitter by the NeverTrumpers is unbearable. They feel vindicated and are as giddy as little girls. But they're not just giddy, they feel Trump needs to address this by admitting he broke FEC violations and resign.
Or something.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ye3s4)

110 Lindsey Graham (of all people) saying this has nothing to do with the Russian collusion so wrap it up, Mueller.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (a0IVu)

111 when is anyone going to look into the Clinton Foundation

I'm hoping Manafort/Cohen are the trick by which we can go, "oh, such things are illegal...?" and go after them. Not 'investigate', but actually do something.

Posted by: t-bird at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (n/eZB)

112 95 There are multiple active investigations into CF.

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (sFofr)

And they will be completed 10 years after she croaks.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (mpXpK)

113 During a campaign, holding a press conference is an attempt to "influence the election". Kissing babies is an attempt to "influence the election". Everything a campaign does is an attempt to "influence the election".

In this context the phrase is utterly meaningless.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (63i9Y)

114 I suppose the Cohen "bribes" occurred before the Access Hollywood tape dropped. I think Trump's reaction to that one (fight back and don't apologize) proves he wouldn't have been all that concerned about bimbo eruptions affecting his campaign but he would be concerned about Melania finding out. I bet she wears the pants in their personal relationship and he did not want to piss her off.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (2NqXo)

115 Wow, whatta great lawyer, huh ?



Selling his client down the river.
----
Apparently , a brilliant judge decided that Cohen was not Trump's attorney and therefore fair game.

Or he was his attorney and therefore Mewler could toss his underwear drawer.

Either way - Search Warrant Status : Granted
Sure am glad so many Hawaiian judges are on the case , looking out for us little guys.

Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (8A18y)

116 Just got home.. I'm still fuming. Mollie Tibbets killer was a fucking illegal!!!????

Mother. Fucker.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (dUJdY)

117 89 Huber will come.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (r9UYA)



#TwoWeeks.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (UsCnO)

118 Yep. There is enough there there for Sessions to act.

But he will not. Because of all the OTHER stuff he is doing. Like messing around with organizations involving washed up Smallville actresses.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (++G28)

119 And Brian, there is no way in hell they get 67 votes in the Senate.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (u8Nqb)

120 Lesson: Never, ever agree to an interview with the FBI.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)

Or any law enforcement agents, without the presence of competent counsel. They are to be presumed to be lying, corrupt cocksuckers until proven otherwise.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (NWiLs)

121 58 31 Bill Kristol just came all over Jonah Goldberg's face.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (NWiLs)
A Lemon Lime Party!
Posted by: Steve Quayle


Did not use any teeth either!

Posted by: Don Lemon at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (tvzmd)

122 in other news, i loved POTUS tweet about mudd.
"totally unglued and weird"


super cereal

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (Tm+wy)

123 Where's Jack Straw? You around, Jack?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (2sCft)

124 Because this is all a pretext for impeachment, not a trial in normal court. Nothing has to be proven for removal, just enough votes from the Senate.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

_______


I truly think it would be in Trump's interest to just fire Mueller and this be the main issue in 2018.

Whether Trump should be impeached.

It worked well for Bill Clinton, and they've got less on Trump.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (UfkIY)

125 Is anyone really surprised by any of this? I'm not. It's not like I thought Trump was squeaky clean. Nor did I think the people he dealt with were. It's just that Clinton was way worse. Waayyyy worse.
Her, her husband, their associates, etal.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (Nt/TS)

126 120
Lesson: Never, ever agree to an interview with the FBI.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (ptqGC)



Or any law enforcement agents, without the presence of competent
counsel. They are to be presumed to be lying, corrupt cocksuckers until
proven otherwise.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (NWiLs)
Yup.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (a0IVu)

127 Well. Now we know why the First Lady is out of the country for a couple weeks.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (xInes)

128 @99
"Cohen's tale of paying off the stripper isn't Trump's problem. Whatever the hell else Cohen may tell Mueller now about Trump's shenanigans over the years, true or false, for a favorable sentencing recommendation is Trump's problem"

And you can ga-ron-tee that anything salacious will be "leaked" to the press. "Crossfire Hurricane" is quite a multi-layered operation.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (j4US8)

129 Have the giddy progs begun crowing about how they're taking back the House and PDT will be impeached?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (ptqGC)

130 So everyone on the planet forgot about the tapes that Cohen had with Trump telling Cohen to pay the payment from a company account that was not his campaign.

This stuff gets so stupid that it is almost funny.

Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (6uV+4)

131 Cohen is a lying sack of shit. Which, when you think about it, is the only reason people paid him.

Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (14URa)

132 Clarification: Trump did apologize for Access Hollywood but I meant he never apologized for running for president or continuing his campaign once the tape came out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (2NqXo)

133 You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.


How so, Dunderkind?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (yQpMk)

134 "Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. "



he says while shitting his pants

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (nFwvY)

135 ' In light of the present emergency, GEOTUS will exercise certain extraordinary powers until such time as, in his estimation, the Constitution and the rule of law are restored.' - Sh!t SHS needs to say.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (fA1SL)

136 >>Where's Jack Straw? You around, Jack?

Yep. Enjoying the show.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:15 PM (/tuJf)

137 119
And Brian, there is no way in hell they get 67 votes in the Senate.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (u8Nqb)

You give Senate Republicans WAAAY too much credit.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (rnXGe)

138 Yawn. Cuck cruisers and their fellow lefty felchers spiking the ball after a minor gain acting like it's a game winning TD. Remember when we got excited that we chased off Van Jones, or when Scott Brown won his election and we "stopped" Obamacare? Reminds me of that.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (oZ6kz)

139 Eh, something else will happen next week = new outrage.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (a0IVu)

140 Trump is not going to be impeached. Latest data point: His boy Kobach won the primary over the incumbent and will win the seat of Kansas Governor in Novemeber. The man who heads Trumps commission on National Election Fruad and security.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (sFofr)

141 The problem is that now these goatfelchers have tasted blood and are only going to amp things up in their quest to subvert the election and overthrow the President.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)

142 Where is PDT doing a rally tonight? It should be a good one.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)

143 The walls are closing in, it's gonna be an early night, this is it for Trump!

Posted by: Your sycophant press at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (O2RFr)

144 No. She doesn't have any money. She needs to keep in the fray so as to live that lifestyle she likes. You think she likes sitting at home watching Trump and drinking gin?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (q1VoB)

Well, she likes drinking gin. A lot.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (9BLnV)

145 Trump is still my President. The rest of this is all "look see pidgin".

Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (gmo/4)

146 142. Charleston, Best Virginia

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (fA1SL)

147 130
So everyone on the planet forgot about the tapes that Cohen had with
Trump telling Cohen to pay the payment from a company account that was
not his campaign.



This stuff gets so stupid that it is almost funny.

Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (6uV+4)

And that's evidence that it had nothing to do with the campaign but to protect his family.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (rnXGe)

148 142
Where is PDT doing a rally tonight? It should be a good one.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (ptqGC)
West Virginia

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (a0IVu)

149 @104: "Lesson: Never, ever agree to an interview with the FBI."
No kidding....

Posted by: Zombie Ibragim Todashev at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (rznWS)

150 Jeebus. What a day. The CO bastard is saying he killed his pregnant wife after SHE killed their two little girls.

Evil never takes a holiday.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (ptqGC)

151 The Democrats are all ready to impeach Trump for colluding with the Russians when Debbie Whastswitherhair hired Paki's to run her IT along with 25 or so other Democrats and have full run with all their information.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (lxZ71)

152 BINO has been setting his own hair on fire for a while now. there doesn't seem to be much that doesn't panic him.

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (nFwvY)

153 There will be no blue wave in November. I doubt the Dems will pick up many seats if any at all.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (sFofr)

154 All trump has to do is to start de-classifying documents then watch as the cockroaches scurry...

Posted by: Fed up at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (nzKWW)

155 >>The problem is that now these goatfelchers have tasted blood and are only going to amp things up in their quest to subvert the election and overthrow the President.

I don't think the dial goes past 11.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (/tuJf)

156 Is that burning hair I smell? Not sure I even dare to turn on the news tonight. Might be a good nice to play a few games of chess with OReno, Jr.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (2sCft)

157 He'll get a nice crowd tonight.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (oYNmA)

158 So did this get Cohen a bye on the cab medallion dealio?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yQpMk)

159 Post script on Mollie Tibbetts:

https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq

Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)

160 West Virginia


Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:17 PM (a0IVu)


Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (ptqGC)

161
No one told me I was supposed to be wetting the bed.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (10vO4)

162 Eh, something else will happen next week = new outrage.
--

Venezuela, it appears. Is now a failed state, and everyone who lives there is trying to get out of the country.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (I9Sw7)

163 Trump is "not ok with this". He is not "letting them do this".



He has a party that is almost HALF FILLED WITH TRAITORS in his own fucking party. And Sessions is blackmailed or insane.


2018 is everything. GOP picks up enough TRUMP GOP'ers, read, non fucking cucks, and you will see the battleship fully operational. If not, then expect more of Mueller gone wild for another fucking 2 years.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (q+HNC)

164 "Trump will be gone before Fall 2019."

If this crap is what is used to remove him from office, there will be blood.

Clinton was a rapist, the Senate knew it, they let him stay in office. If perfectly legal confidentiality agreements are now impeachable, there will be blood.

Rivers of it.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (pKB/v)

165 "Why is Trump required to disclose the purpose of every nickel he spent in 2016 while Hillary Clinton is permitted to straight-up file false reports with the FEC without any criminal investigation whatsoever?"

Because we're at war. And the people who enforce the rules like this are all on the other side of us, and of Trump.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (bcbK8)

166 141
The problem is that now these goatfelchers have tasted blood and are
only going to amp things up in their quest to subvert the election and
overthrow the President.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)

Yep, this is all we're going to hear about until November. All day every day. Every candidate will have to go on record with a position.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (rnXGe)

167 Rush also brought this up today:

Comey and Strzok BOTH said Flynn didn't lie when they interviewed him. Yet, he's awaiting sentencing FOR LYING TO THE FBI. (Sorry for shouting.)

The man has lost his house, and is sitting waiting to find out how long he'll be in prison.




I really wish someone would do a GoFundMe for him...one of his friends or associates.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (Nt/TS)

168 This is step one for the FakeNews Press. Setting the hook.


Step 2 is the Blue Wave in the House. Or at least Blue enough with some #NeverTrumper leftovers to reach 218.


Step 3 is another two years of non-stop hair-on-fire nonsense to stall to 2020.


So the Communists today did get step #1, albeit a bit of a crooked alley, not an interstate.


Me? Just one day closer to the War the Commiecans are demanding.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (UsCnO)

169 You give Senate Republicans WAAAY too much credit.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (rnXGe)

------------

Yet you give them too much credit for having the balls to impeach a President of their own party, who is very popular. They would be voting themselves out of their jobs.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (I16G8)

170 The news is just too fucking depressing today. I'm off to watch bass fishing videos.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (HiLJ1)

171
Post script on Mollie Tibbetts:

https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq


Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)


Omg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (ptqGC)

172 If Trump paid Perkins-Coie and they paid Stormy, would this be a campaign finance violation?

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (P1AAi)

173 So everyone on the planet forgot about the tapes
that Cohen had with Trump telling Cohen to pay the payment from a
company account that was not his campaign.



This stuff gets so stupid that it is almost funny.


Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM

---

Yep just like I said above....the Trump tape abruptly cut off when Trump said to not pay in cash.


This is another huge nothingburger where the msm thinks they have got Trump this time. All they have to do is play the tape and find out there is no "there" there.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (JUOKG)

174 >>Yep, this is all we're going to hear about until November

No it's not. Won't even be the biggest thing we hear by the end of next week.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (/tuJf)

175 So, after two years Mueller is ready to accuse Trump of two counts of paying off blackmailers from his personal funds.

This is a scandal all right. Mueller is the scandal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, sitting quietly in the corner at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (XlbwU)

176 159. Ouch.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (fA1SL)

177 The payment was made with Trump's money, not the campaign funds, right?

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (Z48ZB)

178 Mark Levin is good on this campaign violation bullshit.

No crime was committed.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (BfOXk)

179 Where are all the embarrassing leaked tapes of Hillary? She's a mean drunk who gets enraged. She can't even control herself when she's making a speech being shown on TV. There must surely be audio/video of her losing control (besides the seizures) that would prove highly inconvenient to the democrats. Are people around her still that afraid of her?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (2NqXo)

180 There are ongoing investigations into the CGI and CF so the assets could be frozen or seized. It could both scared and broke as fuck.

The poor, dear woman. She was broke when she left the White House with the silverware.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (eAMlh)

181 Lindsey Graham (of all people) saying this has nothing to do with the Russian collusion so wrap it up, Mueller.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (a0IVu)

Words are not deeds.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (DzFIB)

182 23 Speaking of Joe Scarborough, I wonder if he's ever "blacked out" while with a young woman.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (ptqGC)


Like me?

Posted by: zombie Ted Kennedy at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (UsCnO)

183 This is not about guilty or not guilty, it's about getting some religious voters, such as Mormons, and women voters to stay home or vote against Trump.
It's an attempt to make Trump seem like an uncool and libidinous old man who cheats on his wife and has to pay for sex. The other narrative they're pushing is that he's alone and deluded, abandoned by his former associates and soon by his wife. They're trying to make an example of anyone who stands by him or defends him in public, so that nobody will want to work for him in the future. That's all.
Getting a conviction right now is not important for them, preventing Trump from achieving too much is. Then they can also charge him with being all talk. And when they get back into power due to voter apathy they can take revenge at their own pace.
Hopefully Trump has some counter-measures planned. So far he has emerged victorious from these ambushes, but it'd be good to see some pushback.

Posted by: PG at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (iqCkn)

184 152
BINO has been setting his own hair on fire for a while now. there doesn't seem to be much that doesn't panic him.

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:18 PM (nFwvY)

Oh please. I don't panic, I've just seen this coming for months and I've been right the entire way. All of this was entirely predictable and so its what's coming.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (rnXGe)

185 JuJuBee: "I just don't see the big Trump's-goose-is-cooked story here."

It isn't. The usual suspects will caterwaul in hopes of convincing The Deplorables - especially the religious ones - of going to their fainting couches instead of the polls. The MFM et al. don't believe a word they themselves say, but they're praying (so to speak) The Other will believe the MFM et al's BS.

This mid-term is shaping up to be the most critical mid-term of my entire 29 years. Easily.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (6eEQ+)

186 go ahead deep state and make your move and remove him. no crying when you get removed in turn, mostly because you won't be doing anything other than mouldering in America 2.0

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (nFwvY)

187 Hope the horde is well. Been absent for a while. So aside from the leftist circle jerk. Let's get back to reality shall we? So the Manafort shit had nothing to do with Trump and or Russia. Shocking nobody. As for Cohen, at the very worst, Trump knew of and paid off said whooores which is not illegal. If it was with his own money, tough shit. Even if it was with campaign money he gets a fine. The left is going to hump each others legs for the next few days. Let them, it's going to be fun to laugh at them later, well it's always fun to laugh at them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (VZV4A)

188 Sessions will get right on the Deep State corruption after he cracks the illegal Ginseng distribution ring.

Posted by: Derptastic at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (DB16e)

189 so we have been letting illegal immigrants that criminal, violent and stupid in?


who walks to cops to the body, except for michael cohen?

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (MTjB1)

190 Holy crap. Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (ptqGC)

191 Charleston, Best Virginia

Preach it, brother.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (iiixZ)

192 159. Ouch.
I think it's fake. There's some sick fucks out there.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (jDF8P)

193 Trump has the reverse Oct surprise coming. Bigly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (oYNmA)

194 I don't believe a word this slimebag says.

As for Mueller, he never had any problems with lies before, it was just a matter of how they could help him.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (KN1xl)

195 Are people around her still that afraid of her?
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (2NqXo)

Yes. People are still dying when investigating her.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (sFofr)

196 Post script on Mollie Tibbetts:

https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq

Jesus....

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (dUJdY)

197 Are people around her still that afraid of her?

Ummm, yes, very yes.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (LOq4H)

198 ALL campaign expenditures are made to influence the election somehow.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 06:24 PM (P1AAi)

199 You give Senate Republicans WAAAY too much credit.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (rnXGe)

------------

Yet you give them too much credit for having the balls to impeach a President of their own party, who is very popular. They would be voting themselves out of their jobs.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (I16G

We don't care, if the Establishment lives on, it will be a win.

Posted by: Kamikaze Republicans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (DzFIB)

200 191.
* fistbump & Tudor's Politician thru USB *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (fA1SL)

201 The few fighting Republicans, like Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes, are going to be grilling that DOJ coup plotter, Bruce Ohr on the 28th. Let's see how that plays out. This seems like a race between the Deep State and the Good Republicans/Coup Plot Exposers to see who can win the narrative with the public.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (2sCft)

202 Holy crap. Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.

For what?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (dUJdY)

203 >>188
Sessions will get right on the Deep State corruption after he cracks the illegal Ginseng distribution ring.

Stuff will mess you up man.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (r9UYA)

204 Note, this is now an allegation that the prosecution will be allowed to assert, but it's never been tried in court.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (oVJmc)

205 Yet you give them too much credit for having the
balls to impeach a President of their own party, who is very popular.
They would be voting themselves out of their jobs.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (I16G

You can't see several Senate Republicans voting to remove for "the good of the country", and to "get all this behind us" so we can "all just move on."?The script writes itself with those fucks.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (rnXGe)

206 This is not just an attack on Trump. This is an attack on us, Trump is the standard-bearer. The one who stands in the gap. Their intent is to bring it down. The whole thing. The whole country. The whole America. Pray for Trump. Pray for his cabinet.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)

207 OT

Can someone es'plain John McAfee to me?

https://tinyurl.com/yakkpehy

More to the point, is McCafee a 'Ron?

Is McCafee /ourguy?

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (Zogyx)

208 If Trump buys air time for a political commercial to "influence an election" is that now a crime?

Can he legally pay to be flown to a campaign stop if it's for the purposes of "influencing an election?"

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (q177U)

209 Holy crap. Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.

Of course... Republican...

Posted by: Your sycophant press at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (O2RFr)

210 OK everyone. Time for a little sing-a-long.

I'm a little teapot, short and stoutHere is my handle, here is my spout


Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (gmo/4)

211 Good news. Prosecuting political enemies is now en Vogue!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (p+zZ8)

212 Holy crap. Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.
...

"Lawfare" has evidently been escalated to "thermonuclear lawfare".

Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (8A18y)

213 Post script on Mollie Tibbetts:

https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq
Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)


Oh wow. Kinda took the wind outta my sails.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (Nt/TS)

214 >>>I've just seen this coming for months and I've been right the entire way.

are you ready for some football?

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (Tm+wy)

215 172 If Trump paid Perkins-Coie and they paid Stormy, would this be a campaign finance violation?

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (P1AAi)


You had to go there. It's not just some Russian bankers tied to Putin or corrupt senior FBI agents.


It's STORMY EFFING DANIELS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (UsCnO)

216 Jeff Session....f*ck him in particular.

Posted by: Confuscious at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (JJ9bx)

217 "Holy crap. Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:23 PM (ptqGC)"

--------

Let's remember this is California, laws are what they say they are.

Ten million illegals no problem, one Republican politician is one too many.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (KN1xl)

218 Trump does not have a front hole! Shillary is purported to!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (JFO2v)

219 Pray for Trump. Pray for his cabinet.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)

Yep; I do. Every morning and during the day.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (AllCR)

220 Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.

Yet Hillary and her cabal roam free

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (O2RFr)

221 I'd be having a brain aneurysm if I wasn't eating a frozen KandyKake

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (lxZ71)

222 214 >>>I've just seen this coming for months and I've been right the entire way.

are you ready for some football?

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 06:26 PM (Tm+wy)


Yowzaa!

Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (UsCnO)

223 Rep. Duncan Hunter indicted.

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (MAstk)

224 Trump should NOT fire Mueller.

Trump SHOULD order Mueller to investigate the payments by Hillary Clinton to Perkins Coie.

Watch heads explode.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (wFDuq)

225
You can't see several Senate Republicans voting to remove for "the good of the country", and to "get all this behind us" so we can "all just move on."?The script writes itself with those fucks.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (rnXGe)


No I can't.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (10vO4)

226 Trump should NOT fire Mueller.

Trump needs to release all hes got ASAP

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (O2RFr)

227 If this helps get a few more percent of Trump voters to the poll in November, due to hypocritical libtard overreach, then it can be a good thing.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (ABjxW)

228 Yeah, Ms. Tibbett's tweet didn't age well.

Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open borders.

Very sad.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)

229 Is McCafee /ourguy?

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (Zogyx)

McAfee is a lunatic con artist. Probably a murderer too.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (rnXGe)

230 Holy crap. Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA.

For what?
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (dUJdY)

Being Republicans in a competitive District.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (DzFIB)

231 JuJuBee: "I just don't see the big Trump's-goose-is-cooked story here."

It isn't. The usual suspects will caterwaul in hopes of convincing The Deplorables - especially the religious ones - of going to their fainting couches instead of the polls. The MFM et al. don't believe a word they themselves say, but they're praying (so to speak) The Other will believe the MFM et al's BS.
----

This. This is just Scandal #369 that is SURE to bring down Trump, but is forgotten in a week, just in time for Scandal #370, which is SURE to bring down Trump, but is forgotten in a week, just in time for...

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (Z48ZB)

232 Zero chance of Trump impeachment, OR conviction.


And as Drider said - wasn't there a tape of Trump directing that payments come out of his own funds? Don't see how any part of this adds up to a serious FEC charge, whatever Cohen "swears" to.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (QDnY+)

233 >>No I can't.

Nobody can.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (/tuJf)

234 "Duncan Hunter and his wife have just been indicted in CA."
Nobody's going to tell me that this along with Cohen wasn't coordinated by the DOJ to happen today to maximize the pain on the GOP. Manafort was just a gift they only dreamed of.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (ye3s4)

235 Rep. Duncan Hunter indicted.
....
Over 60k in funds that he already paid back from his personal funds.

Troll on, dunce.

Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (8A18y)

236 228
Yeah, Ms. Tibbett's tweet didn't age well.



Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by
members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open
borders.



Very sad.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)


Tell us about it.

Two bikers across kill-me-stan

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (q1VoB)

237 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (JUOKG)
====
Thus why Cohen Hired Lyin Lanny Davis the Clinton Fixer, It is The Clintons who are in trouble because of Cohen, Cohen was a DemoCRAZY until PDT was elected & then he switched

Posted by: Nothing is Going to Happen at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (y3aQB)

238 Does anybody even recall that CONGRESS HAD A PUBLICLY-FUNDED SLUSH FUND TO PAY OFF THE WOMEN THEY SEXUALLY ABUSED?

And these people are going to vote up or down on Trump paying off his (consensual) whore?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (oVJmc)

239 If they had Cohen on real serious crimes, what's to stop muh resistance from offering a plea to this campaign law to make Trump look terrible?

Posted by: Inogame at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (jTGTB)

240
This is a whole load of Nothing.

Relax, everyone.

We got a good man in the White House and he's no pussy. Er, front hole.

Mr President's got this.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (LWYzG)

241
I'm surprised the Kalifornia Kourt didn't go after Nunes or Issa already.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (G4W16)

242 162
Venezuela, it appears. Is now a failed state, and everyone who lives there is trying to get out of the country.

Posted by: Brad Chadlee Jr. at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (I9Sw7)


I wonder how many of them voted for socialism.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (sdi6R)

243 228 Yeah, Ms. Tibbett's tweet didn't age well.

Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open borders.

Very sad.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)

Or the there is no evil getting ran over and stabbed in turkshitholestan!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:31 PM (JFO2v)

244 "Don't rub it in."

- - Les of Moonves
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM

Rubbing it in? That's my moonves.
Frank Costanza

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (2NqXo)

245 You can't see several Senate Republicans voting to remove for "the good of the country", and to "get all this behind us" so we can "all just move on."?The script writes itself with those fucks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (rnXGe)

-------------
Sure, I see "several". What I don't see are anywhere close to 67 total in the Senate suicidal enough to kill their careers. Granted, Dems would probably not get voted out.

Use the fire extinguisher on the hair, please.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (I16G8)

246 As an ex-papist I can say the Catholic Church given its encouragement of the Mexican invasion is a criminal organization.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (qi1wI)

247 Imran Awan DNC IT guy was sentenced to three months probation today !!! WZ

Posted by: sOME mORON at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (ICWiF)

248 Where is that somnambulant whore of an AG?

Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (Zf9Ej)

249 Trump has a 50% approval rating. It's probably closer to 60-65%. Its retarded to even entertain that Trump will be impeached. He is objectively doing well and is popular with Americans.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (sFofr)

250 ThePrimordialOrderedPair: "Everything a campaign does is an attempt to 'influence the election'.

In this context the phrase is utterly meaningless."


Yep. "Waking up" is an attempt to influence the election, essential as it is to campaigning.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM (6eEQ+)

251 Omg.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (ptqGC)

I did not just read that.

Well, I still feel awful for her.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM (MX7xj)

Posted by: John McCain from the great beyond at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM (8A18y)

253 Hunter's district not competitive, pretty sure - he got gerrymandered into a safer/larger margin district, IIRC. So, inexcusable. But he's one who might be re-elected despite this kind of indictment, and his opponent is, I believe, a sacrificial nobody (the type that abounds in all these non-competitive districts).



Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (QDnY+)

254 Rep. Duncan Hunter indicted.
....
Over 60k in funds that he already paid back from his personal funds.

Troll on, dunce.



Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:30 PM (8A18y)


*looks around* Last time I checked, I'm not a troll.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (ptqGC)

255 I have made daughter and nieces cry when I told them how much they were hated. Was many years ago when I assumed they were virgins. I said they hate your hymens, your education, your beauty, your strength and willpower but mostly they hate YOU!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (JFO2v)

256 Trump has a 50% approval rating. It's probably
closer to 60-65%. Its retarded to even entertain that Trump will be
impeached. He is objectively doing well and is popular with Americans.


Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM

---

Yep and there is a tape out there with Trump saying to do it right and not pay cash and then the tape cuts off.


Everyone needs to step away from the fainting couches.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (JUOKG)

257 228 Yeah, Ms. Tibbett's tweet didn't age well.

Reminds me of the young Scandie woman who was gang-raped to death by members of the 7th Century Death Cult. She was a big fan of open borders.

Very sad.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (BfOXk)


Sounds like Darwin Award material.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (sdi6R)

258 May 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
June 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
September 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
October 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
November 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
December 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
January 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
Febuary 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
March 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
April 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
May 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
June 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!

https://youtu.be/rLEchPZm318

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnAwa)

259 This Cohen thing is full of puritan terms. I remember a time when the media and our elites referred then Stormy Daniel thing as a one night stand, now they refer to her as Trump's mistress.

I remember reading reading in those long ago "enlightened" times that everyone you slept with was to be referred to as simply a sex partner.

Those were the days my friend
Thought they'd never end

And the came a president who must be deposed and his voters swapped for the imported illegal ones who have no compunction in voting illegally or killing innocent girls out for a jog.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (KN1xl)

260 Always remember one thing.


They absolutely, positively HATE US ALL.



Except for the Soros Troll at post #2. They pay him good money to piss us off. And with the $18 Billion Soros gave to his organizations, they are hiring.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (UsCnO)

261 November is everything. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reps picked up 40 seats or if they lost 40 seats. Fun times.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnXGe)

262 249 Trump has a 50% approval rating. It's probably closer to 60-65%. Its retarded to even entertain that Trump will be impeached. He is objectively doing well and is popular with Americans.
Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:32 PM (sFofr)


A) The Left hates Trump outright
B) They want payback for Bill's impeachment
C) They think even if he's not removed it will cripple the agenda and his re-election bid
D) They are once again wildly misreading the mood of the American people.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (G4W16)

263 'm surprised the Kalifornia Kourt didn't go after Nunes or Issa already.

Issa is retiring and they tried to pin something on Nunes but it didn't stick... Funny how two Republican Congressmen in the last couple weeks have been charged with crimes... Almost like it was planned to help the Dems take those seats.. Almost

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (O2RFr)

264 So if Trump had used campaign money instead of his own dough, and if he had routed it through Perkins Coie instead of Cohen's firm, the whole thing would be legal and above board?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, sitting quietly in the corner at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (XlbwU)

265 141 The problem is that now these goatfelchers have tasted blood and are only going to amp things up in their quest to subvert the election and overthrow the President.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 06:16 PM (NWiLs)

That was going to happen regardless of Cohen or Manafort or whatever.

They probably sit around in circles punching each other in the 'nads to fire themselves up.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (4ErVI)

266

Ever wonder why the never made a modern movie about Audie Murphy?

Or Alvin York?

I mean, it's probably better they didn't since they'd ruin it and make it all about moral equivocation and no homos in the service.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (LWYzG)

267 I have a feeling Trump is going to come out guns a blazin tonight.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (dUJdY)

268 Imran Awan DNC IT guy was sentenced to three months probation today !!!



See? Justice!!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)

269
Plus, they'd cast Markie Mark as Audie Murphy, I'd bet.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (LWYzG)

270
*looks around* Last time I checked, I'm not a troll.




Posted by: Jane D'oh
...

Relax! I responded to your comment.

I was quoting the troll who followed you "Ha".

Who was summarily executed.

Posted by: John McCain from the great beyond at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (8A18y)

271 Thank you, deplorable Horde, for talking me back down a cliff after reading the post. Trying not to get discouraged.

Posted by: Caliban at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (QE8X6)

272 254
*looks around* Last time I checked, I'm not a troll.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (ptqGC)

There are one or two monosyllabic trolls trolling around.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (G4W16)

273 245. He's not panicked. And he doesnt believe a good chunk of the hysterical ravings he shares here.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (fA1SL)

274 Wasn't it quaint how Dinesh D'Souza went down right after he made his film about anti-American Barry Soetoro Obama?


No one on the left ever seems to see the inside of a jail cell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (ptqGC)

275 whARRGARbl

Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (8A18y)

276 269
Plus, they'd cast Markie Mark as Audie Murphy, I'd bet.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (LWYzG)


Markie Post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (G4W16)

277 261 November is everything. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reps picked up 40 seats or if they lost 40 seats. Fun times.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnXGe)


I agree with you. I have no idea how it's going to go.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (sdi6R)

278 >>248
Where is that somnambulant whore of an AG?

Cracking down on the Ginseng herbal pipelines. Important stuff.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (r9UYA)

279 >>I have a feeling Trump is going to come out guns a blazin tonight.

I have a feeling you are right.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (/tuJf)

280 Wow, civil war comes at you fast!!

Posted by: American at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (o9TX1)

281

Are you like me and feel they don't make enough submarine movies?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (LWYzG)

282 Looked at my 401k today, and wow is the Trump economy making me rich.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (7PllL)

283 Except for the Soros Troll

Soros the Joooz Murderer?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (JFO2v)

284 Duncan Hunter, another republican Congressman, indicted.

Odd that this is happening so close to the election, it's almost as though something else is going on...

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (GAVZe)

285 277 261 November is everything. I wouldn't be surprised if the Reps picked up 40 seats or if they lost 40 seats. Fun times.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnXGe)

I agree with you. I have no idea how it's going to go. Me either... We really need to get Kavanaugh through... And Have Darth Vader Ginsburg "retire." We're gonna need the SC

Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (O2RFr)

286 Folks, get out and vote. Get your Trump supporting friends to vote.

Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (c056A)

287 Geez. I stop in after being gone to cool everyone's tits on this Cohen BS and nobody even says hi or offers me a bourbon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (VZV4A)

288 Give me a call once the shooting starts.

Posted by: BuckIV at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (PZ2ib)

289 280 282

Your better would love to see you 401k at zero and you sucking off SS!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (JFO2v)

290 258 May 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
June 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
September 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
October 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
November 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
December 2017 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
January 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
Febuary 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
March 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
April 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
May 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
June 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
July 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!
August 2018 The Walls are closing in on Trump!

https://youtu.be/rLEchPZm318

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (rnAwa)


That video is FUNNY!


Aggh!! THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!!!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (UsCnO)

291 Imran Awan DNC IT guy was sentenced to three months probation today !!!



See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)

WTF?!?!

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (Z48ZB)

292 D) They are once again wildly misreading the mood of the American people.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (G4W16)

They are clueless in this area.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (sFofr)

293 Geez. I stop in after being gone to cool everyone's tits on this Cohen BS and nobody even says hi or offers me a bourbon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (VZV4A)


Out of bourbon. Will vodka do?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (ptqGC)

294 288 Give me a call once the shooting starts.
Posted by: BuckIV at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (PZ2ib)

Hell is coming to breakfast

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (JFO2v)

295 D) They are once again wildly misreading the mood of the American people.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:34 PM (G4W16)


Voters are gonna be PISSED.

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (q177U)

296 Honestly, the most ironic thing about this entire fiasco is that it fires up Trump's base, which is literally pretty much the whole GOP.


Aside from going hard on immigration, the blatant two-faced bullshit of this whole ridiculousness is the best mid-term weapon the GOP has.

Take it to the bank.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (q+HNC)

297 291: Sessions is a stupid loser bitch

Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (Zf9Ej)

298 The Right Side Broadcasting reporterettes are cute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY_isOiTaw

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (sdi6R)

299 nobody even says hi or offers me a bourbon.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (VZV4A)



Hi Skandi. Want some glogg?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (lwiT4)

300 The Walls have been closing in on Trump since September 2015!

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (sFofr)

301 Out of bourbon. Will vodka do?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM

Of course Jane. I can rough it with the best of them!

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (VZV4A)

302 >>I agree with you. I have no idea how it's going to go. Me either... We
really need to get Kavanaugh through... And Have Darth Vader Ginsburg
"retire." We're gonna need the SC more ammo.



Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (r9UYA)

303 And Have Darth Vader Ginsburg "retire."
===
Expeditiously Retire.

"Ex-pire"
Oops did I say that out loud?

Posted by: you loved Brad... at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (8A18y)

304 Imran Awan DNC IT guy was sentenced to three months probation today !!!

See? Justice!!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)



Huh. And I wasn't going to drink this week.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (ptqGC)

305 294.
No. You're thinking of 'Hell Comes to Frog-town.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (fA1SL)

306 Looks like we finally got our man, Cato!

Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (TTgpD)

307 Markie Post.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:36 PM (G4W16)

Oh this sounds promising!

We need a pitch. Markie Post as Audrea Murphy, war hero. In a bikini with an army of babes. Whip cream guns, etc.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (4ErVI)

308 There are one or two monosyllabic trolls trolling around.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (G4W16)

Answer me these riddles three and thou shalt passeth over.

Riddle the first!

Who speaketh like a dandy while also lacking in mental faculty?

Posted by: Some Bridge Troll at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (Zogyx)

309

What's funny is Brett Kavanaugh is STILL gonna be the next Justice, in just a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (LWYzG)

310 297 291: Sessions is a stupid loser bitch
Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (Zf9Ej)

Bet his front hole is sore!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (JFO2v)

311 Fuck this. If Trump is impeached, American is gone. The man worked hard for the American people. He's one of the few politicians since Reagan who stood up for the country.


Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (c056A)

312 Hi Skandi. Want some glogg?
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM

Does it have bourbon in it? If so yes, or as I said to Jane, vodka will do. Just not ValuRite, I have standards you know.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (VZV4A)

313 Pray for Trump. Pray for his cabinet.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)

Yep; I do. Every morning and during the day.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 21, 2018 06:27 PM (AllCR)

^^^^
This. Not meaning to be overly dramatic, but the forces of Darkness really are aligned against PDJT and his cabinet. God bless him, them and their families. God bless the USA.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (2sCft)

314 The left is already calling for Kavanaugh's hearings to be cancelled due to this latest breaking "news"......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (JUOKG)

315 Robert: "Is McCafee /ourguy?"

I understand him to be crazy as an outhouse rat. So, in a word, no. Run, do not walk, away from this guy.

Seriously, he is a strange bird.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (6eEQ+)

316

Markie Post is, like, 60, now.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (LWYzG)

317 "Without mentioning names, I really want to hear the explanations from the Sessions defenders about why his instantaneous recusal will, in effect, lead to the reversal of the counterrevolution back to pre-1913 days"

To play devil's advocate, how is Sessions recusal relevant to either of these prosecutions? Neither of them have anything to do with Russia. Manafort and Cohen were on the Democrat's enemy's list form the start and they would've been targeted by a prosecutor somewhere even if Mueller never existed.

In fact, I suspect the only reason for having Mueller's name associated with these was to allow his team to take credit for something so as to keep the left's hopes afloat.

Oddly enough after all this time absolutely nothing has come of any of the Russia stuff that Sessionzzzz has supposedly been so snoozily incompetent about. To the contrary, every breathless Russia story from the Democrats has instantly blown up in their faces and repeatedly made them look like desperate crazy people. Weird.

Posted by: GalosGann at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (Dl9Eq)

318 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan
Judge who let Awan walk, Jamaica born Obama plant in to the injustice system

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (lxZ71)

319

Vote from the rooftops; garden from the lampposts...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (qul7b)

320 This. Not meaning to be overly dramatic, but the
forces of Darkness really are aligned against PDJT and his cabinet. God
bless him, them and their families. God bless the USA.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (2sCft)


I literally pray for the man, his family, his administration, and this country every single day. We're living in interesting times.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (ptqGC)

321 I have had nothing but bad news today.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (lxZ71)

322 I just learnt my car has to stay in the shop another day. Looking like I'm about to take it in the back hole

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (N1ZXu)

323 Markie Post?

*** eyes brighten ***

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (2sCft)

324 Most of the screaming headline stuff proves to be meh the next day or the next week. I doubt that this ultimately will result in much one way or another. Who remembers Johnny Chung after all?

Furthermore, I suspect a large number politicians on both sides of the aisles have fixers and under the table payments for "indiscretions". All payments could be considered attempts to "influence the election". Just look at how much taxpayer money was spent on sexual harassment claims against Congress critters. They are spending public money to "influence an election". HRH and the spending on Bill Clinton's bimbo eruptions will also be revived.

It it possible that Trump actually is the SMOD that brings down the temple on all of it. Just imagine the fun if all of the NSA intercepts, security clearance questionnaires, and IRS tax records for all people holding public office, all registered lobbyists and lawyers, and the media were released in a searchable google like database.

After all the Chinese have a large portion of it via the leak during the Obama years regarding security clearance questionnaires on their self reported behavior. Why can't we have a peek?

Posted by: whig at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (jWFXC)

325 Comparisons and contrasts with Edwards' case linked in my sock.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (Evws/)

326 Markie Post is, like, 60, now.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (LWYzG)

++++
Okay, but VINTAGE Markie Post. Yes!

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (2sCft)

327 Well, I still feel awful for her.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 06:33 PM

At least she didn't have to pedal her ass halfway around the world to get butchered. We import killers, too, so citizens can be butchered right where they live and work. Think of the convenience!

What? Too soon?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (2NqXo)

328 311 Fuck this. If Trump is impeached, American is gone. The man worked hard for the American people. He's one of the few politicians since Reagan who stood up for the country.


Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM

Relax bud. Worst case scenario and I mean worst case the Trump campaign gets hit with a campaign finance violation. Oh I am sure that CNN etc. etc. etc. etc. will hump each others legs for days over impeachment. Paying off a couple of whooress is not impeachable. At worst it's a campaign finance hit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (VZV4A)

329 316

Markie Post is, like, 60, now.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (LWYzG)

Quit killing my dreams.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (4ErVI)

330
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan

Judge who let Awan walk, Jamaica born Obama plant in to the injustice system

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:41 PM (lxZ71)


That mincing pantywaist Obama did more to damage this nation that any president in modern times. Not a hot enough place in hell for that prancing, preening, ponce.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (ptqGC)

331 Just not ValuRite, I have standards you know.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (VZV4A)



Daughter in law found my bottle of Everclear. Threw it away. "By accident", she said.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (lwiT4)

332 297: You shut up! You think it's easy cranking out cookies all day in that hollow tree??

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (TTgpD)

333 grammie I noted this last thread.


Awan given time served plus supervised blah blah blah - in case that is, in reality, potentially one of the biggest congressional criminal scandals - with a hostile foreign intel element - in our history.


And that's it. Done. Public has never even heard of it (um, no press, duh).


And the vile, stupid Warner of VA is out asserting that a punitive, very dicey (note immunity given to underling, Gates, whose admitted crimes EXCEEDED those of the target, his boss) tax case from nearly a decade ago PROVES Mueller's op is "not a witch hunt". WTF?


Not a serious country.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (QDnY+)

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (IIQAD)

335 334 >>>

Your point?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (2sCft)

336
The left is already calling for Kavanaugh's hearings to be cancelled due to this latest breaking "news"......
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM (JUOKG)


lol

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (10vO4)

337 72 For God's sake Ace. They got what they wanted: the basis for impeachment or, at the least, a 24 month anti-Trump news cycle. Who cares about Hillary equivalency? She's not in office.

Trump will be gone before Fall 2019. They play this game better than conservatives do because we tend to be do-nothing bed-wetters. They, on the other hand, live and breathe this stuff. We are so f'in naive.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (53n3X)

----------------------------

Trump will go down fighting which is what our side needed, a fighter, not another sissified conservative whose idea of politics is being a "good moral loser".

In defeat he will become a heroic martyr, or he will win and be a victor, but nothing will be the same again. Too much has been seen and said to go back to the conservatism of yesteryear. Those Never Trumpers who still believe that if Trump is taken out via political legal warfare it will vindicate their approach will be seriously mistaken. Instead it will be the opposite - they will be despised as traitors in a coming conflict resembling the breakdown of the Roman Republic.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (MuTTO)

338 I have had nothing but bad news today.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:42 PM (lxZ71)



What's up, Skip?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (lwiT4)

339 Stunned Silence?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (2sCft)

340 I only ever really remembered Markie Post from Night Court. It wasn't until well after I turned 30 that I realized Markie Post had a career as a sexy " all the boys jerk off to my bikini posters" model.

Golly!

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (Zogyx)

341 Daughter in law found my bottle of Everclear. Threw it away. "By accident", she said.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM

And I assume you told her to replace it then.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (VZV4A)

342 GalosGann:


The office of special prosecutor is who did the Manafort trial. Was that a serious question??


No Mueller, no Manafort trial. Simple as that. I still have yet to hear exactly how a trial over taxes and bank shit from years before Trump announced has ANYTHING to do with "muh Russia".

Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (q+HNC)

343 If Trump were a decent man he would, based on this admission by Cohen, step aside from his office and issue an EO as his last act installing HRC as President.

Thank God President Trump is not a decent man.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (iGktu)

344 We haven't heard Fusion GPS or Perkins Coie folks weighing in on what their payments from Hildabeast were for yet have we.

And the Deep State will want to keep that underwater.

That's what swamp critters do, they bite you in the ass drag you into deep waterdrown you and eat you.

We came We saw and He died

It's very similar to those bedtime stories we heard as children about the monster in the closet.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (Y274z)

345 SteveOReno: "This. Not meaning to be overly dramatic, but the forces of Darkness really are aligned against PDJT and his cabinet..."

I think it more dire. Trump is a proxy. The forces don't hate Trump; they hate us. Before Trump became the voice of the people, all these forces loved Trump. He entertained them, financed some of them, and rubbed shoulders with them in an epicenter of American power. Alas, he's now their gorilla in the midst because he sided with forgotten and abused Middle America.

But their ire is against us through Trump. It is as simple as that.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (6eEQ+)

346 And I don't care if she is 60, I'd still hit it.

Posted by: Robert at August 21, 2018 06:46 PM (Zogyx)

347 Daughter in law found my bottle of Everclear. Threw it away. "By accident", she said.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM
++++
Grammie, your DIL is a jerk.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (2sCft)

348 228 Yeah, Ms. Tibbett's tweet didn't age well.



Yea, hating white people and being for open borders means I'm a little less outraged. I still feel bad she died, and feel bad for her family, but my outrage level decreased. It was at eleventy. If you are killed bcz of policIes you advocated for, and hate people who are trying to protect you, I can't get as outraged. I still think what happened was awful. She did not deserve it. At the same time, she believed in these policies. Which makes me wonder if her family did too. I would think that'd make the pain even worse.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (Nt/TS)

349 So FDA has drug trial:

Jessica comes in and is qualified even though she swan on Berkeley team in 90s.
David walks in and is qualified even though he was stripper for 11 years and take 2 lbs a hormones each day.
Bethany comes in, female, 123 ibs, XY chromosomes, rejected.

So FDA kills 100k over women each year!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (JFO2v)

350 Call me crazy, but is it at all possible that this Cohen dude is a pathological liar ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (bUjCl)

351 And I assume you told her to replace it then.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (VZV4A)



Oh. There's a thought.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (lwiT4)

352 Sounds like he said what Meuller wanted him to say, he was Trump's personal lawyer and he had nothing to do with his campaign-thus Meuller is full of shite.

Posted by: Rose at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (qHeFI)

353 And Michael Cohen has a ton of credibility too.

What about all the other such payoffs before Trump was a candidate.

Even if true, wasn't Cohen the guy responsible to report it as campaign contributions?

Poor Mikey. Instead of pardons, he'll be getting hardons.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (IeDO8)

354 Well, I'll be go to hell!

Script Flipped: 97.8% of Mass Shootings Happen in Gun-Free Zones

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (+y/Ru)

355 Nobody gives a shit about Manafort. Literally nobody, but the cocktail circuit in DC, NYC, Chicago, and Hollywood.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (sFofr)

356 320. Psalm 110.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (TTgpD)

357
Relax bud. Worst case scenario and I mean worst case the Trump campaign gets hit with a campaign finance violation. Oh I am sure that CNN etc. etc. etc. etc. will hump each others legs for days over impeachment. Paying off a couple of whooress is not impeachable. At worst it's a campaign finance hit.


Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (VZV4A)


Not sure why democrats want to bring campaign finance front and center just before an election. Because that sword cuts both ways

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (10vO4)

358 "This is not just an attack on Trump. This is an attack on us, Trump is the standard-bearer. The one who stands in the gap. Their intent is to bring it down. The whole thing. The whole country. The whole America. Pray for Trump. Pray for his cabinet.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:25 PM (lwiT4)"

------------

This is the essence of these attacks and to make it extremely unpleasant for anyone who accepts a position in his administration.

It's a slow motion civil war.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (KN1xl)

359 Yeah Markie is still lookin' good.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (4ErVI)

360 Also found out yesterday but not much details until today, young son of co-worker died past weekend. Not good.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)

361 119 And Brian, there is no way in hell they get 67 votes in the Senate.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (u8Nqb)

You have more confidence than me.

Posted by: clutch at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (kiSdp)

362 Grammie, your DIL is a jerk.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (2sCft)



TBH - I don't think she knew what it was. She was cleaning my upper shelves. I had it hidden next to one of my shooty-things and I think she got addle-pated by the whole scenario.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lwiT4)

363 350 Call me crazy, but is it at all possible that this Cohen dude is a pathological liar ?

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (bUjCl)

He's a lawyer.

Of course he is a pathological liar!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (4ErVI)

364 328 311 Fuck this. If Trump is impeached, American is gone. The man worked hard for the American people. He's one of the few politicians since Reagan who stood up for the country.


Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:40 PM

Relax bud. Worst case scenario and I mean worst case the Trump campaign gets hit with a campaign finance violation. Oh I am sure that CNN etc. etc. etc. etc. will hump each others legs for days over impeachment. Paying off a couple of whooress is not impeachable. At worst it's a campaign finance hit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:43 PM (VZV4A)


agree with Minnfidel, because there is always the shooting option. It's in the Constitution, you know. Refreshing the tree of liberty stuff.


Just don't run out of ammo or beef jerky.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)

365 Also found out yesterday but not much details until today, young son of co-worker died past weekend. Not good.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)


That is heartbreaking. So sorry. Prayers up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:50 PM (ptqGC)

366 Have been making tomato sauce from about 2 dozen tomatoes from the garden, just about done just going to cook it down 8 more minutes

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:50 PM (lxZ71)

367 You stupid idiots have screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Cato at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (PM8Em)



Wow.

Why is the Green Hornet's sidekick so weird?



Posted by: naturalfake at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (z7pBf)

368 So he paid her off. There's no proof he fucked her. The payoff was to stop her lies. Let's not lose sight of that.

Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (LA9ih)

369 had it hidden next to one of my shooty-things and I think she got addle-pated by the whole scenario.
++++
Grammie, I am unsure of the dialect you are speaking, but I'll take your word for your DIL's good intentions, or lack of bad intentions. Are shooty-things discussed on the Sunday afternoon Gun Thread?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (2sCft)

370 found out yesterday but not much details until today, young son of co-worker died past weekend. Not good.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (lxZ71)



I'm so sorry Skip.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (lwiT4)

371 "Trump should NOT fire Mueller.

Trump needs to release all hes got ASAP
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (O2RFr)"

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I would say that is his insurance policy.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (KN1xl)

372 Hildabeast gets away with no investigation because Sessions is the insurance policy. And Rosenpenis is HIS insurance policy.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (Y274z)

373 Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:50 PM (lxZ71)


Be there shortly. I'll bring a Caesar salad and garlic bread.

Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (LA9ih)

374 Are shooty-things discussed on the Sunday afternoon Gun Thread?


Yes, right along with the canoe lessons.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (lwiT4)

375 Not sure why democrats want to bring campaign finance front and center just before an election. Because that sword cuts both ways
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM

They don't care, they will flail at anything anti Trump. I mean these people pick ax out his freaking star in Hollywood. They are that unhinged. Let the left talk impeachment, they've had that wet dream for 2 plus years. I also had a dream that I banged the shit out of Markie Post and Heather Thomas at the same time as a guest on the "Fall Guy". Yea, didn't happen. As I said, at worst it's a campaign finance violation.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (VZV4A)

376 agree with Minnfidel, because there is always the shooting option. It's in the Constitution, you know. Refreshing the tree of liberty stuff.


Just don't run out of ammo or beef jerky.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)

lock and load. While we are armed to the teeth, the libtards are still trying to figure out which bathroom to use

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (d7Ww2)

377 Trump financed his whole campaign out of pocket.

So Cohen is claiming that he wrote a check to Daniels directly out of the MAGA hat proceeds account?

Posted by: Chris W at August 21, 2018 06:52 PM (yUo+H)

378 RELEASE THE KRAKEN!! (Trump needs to declassify everything like.. yesterday).

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (dUJdY)

379 I never met this kid, but take it he was a troubled person

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (lxZ71)

380 they will be despised as traitors in a coming conflict resembling the breakdown of the Roman Republic.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (MuTTO)

If Caesar didn't meekly assent to the demands of the Senate, how can anyone be retarded enough to think Trump will surrender to this limp-wristed Congress?

The masks are off, the state is rogue, and it needs to be purged.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (3Tn95)

381 Grammie, you store your high-proof alcohol with your guns? Does that violate one of the four rules of firearms?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (2sCft)

382 wow, how is her twitter thread up? people are ruthless.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (MTjB1)

383 Nobody gives a shit about Manafort. Literally nobody, but the cocktail circuit in DC, NYC, Chicago, and Hollywood.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (sFofr)


I give a shit about Manafort to the extent that he'd be a free man if he hadn't worked for DJT. That should bother everyone here.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (y7DUB)

384 We have an illegal who murdered an American citizen. On the other hand, tonight, we've got an entire political party popping corks over overthrowing the man trying to put a stop to it.
You tell me this country isn't screwed up.

Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (c056A)

385 Not sure why democrats want to bring campaign
finance front and center just before an election. Because that sword
cuts both ways

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (10vO4)

Cuts both ways, you say? LOLOL!!!!

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (rnXGe)

386 Nobody gives a shit about Manafort. Literally nobody, but the cocktail circuit in DC, NYC, Chicago, and Hollywood.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 06:47 PM (sFofr)

I beg to differ sir. A great many people care.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

387 I just heard on RSB that Trump will do 40 rallies between now and Election Day.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (sdi6R)

388 Just don't run out of ammo or beef jerky.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:49 PM (UsCnO)

What's wrong with Turkey Jerky?

Posted by: That Guy... at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (DzFIB)

389 337. Incorrect. TGE is staying put.

Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (TTgpD)

390 We are truly two Americas.

The protected; Dems and their criminal enterprise allies, and the unprotected; not Leftists.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (hyuyC)

391 >>The left is already calling for Kavanaugh's hearings to be cancelled due to this latest breaking "news"......

So another day ending in y.

What else does Mueller have because if today was the day he fired his big guns against Trump that ain't gonna get it done.

He's been after Manafort for years, wanted to prosecute him when he was running the FBI. The same FBI that had a FISA warrant against Manafort for the 2 years before he worked for Trump and then restarted right after the election.

The same Manafort that worked for Oleg Deripaska who you should become aware of if you aren't already.

Cohen might be able to tie Trump to a FEC violation. Obama was fined hundreds of thousands of dollars for millions of dollars of FEC violations. I'd like to see how Congress justifies an impeachment.

Mueller is winding down his investigation. This is not going to amount to any real damage against Trump. His supporters never thought he was Jesus and his detractors have nothing to really go after him with.

I'm pretty sure Cohen isn't a Russian spy.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (/tuJf)

392
I give a shit about Manafort to the extent that he'd be a free man if he hadn't worked for DJT. That should bother everyone here.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (y7DUB)



Trump will pardon him after his second trial is over

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (10vO4)

393 IDK.. I'm kind of smelling a rat on the Mollie Tibbetts tweet. We shall see.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (dUJdY)

394 Guess who's bloviating on MSLSD right now? Captain Bill Kristol.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (ptqGC)

395 384
You tell me this country isn't screwed up. 

Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM (c056A)

The ruling elite absolutely hate the native white population, but at best they are a parasite on American blood.

This country will be healthy once these demons are burning in hell.

Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (3Tn95)

396 Give me a call once the shooting starts.

Posted by: BuckIV at August 21, 2018 06:37 PM (PZ2ib)

Hell is coming to breakfast

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (JFO2v)

Buzzards gotta eat too.


Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (HgMAr)

397 Scrolling through the web I see some wailing and gnashing of teeth trolls. HA ha.



Hillary will never be president.
The NASDAC, the NYSE, the DOW; all finished up.
Donald Trump will win re-election in 2020.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (ylXIx)

398
So Cohen is claiming that he wrote a check to Daniels directly out of the MAGA hat proceeds account?


Actually, I think the claim is that paying someone off with your own money to keep a scandal from damaging your campaign is a 'campaign expenditure.'

Which means that basically any personal expense could be claimed to be a 'campaign expenditure,' whether it uses campaign money or not.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (oVJmc)

399 Going to repost this because this tweet mysteriously disappeared today. Very quickly. It was a long list of reasons why paying off someone does not mean guilt. But she was doing it to cover for someone else, not Trump obviously.

Nancy Leong: I'm troubled by one response I'm seeing to the allegations about Asia Argento, which is, "she made a payment to him, so she must have done something wrong." Any lawyer will confirm that paying money to settle a dispute doesn't necessarily indicate wrongdoing. 1/

Kurt Schlicter had replied: So that's the rule again?

And then POOF!

Leong continues in multiple tweets to explain that a payoff does not meant guilt listing reasons and details why.

After all, legal fees can add up.
After all, it can give her unwanted bad publicity.

Deleted fast. No need to wonder why.

Nancy Leong is Professor of Law at the University of Denver Sturm College of Law, where she teaches and studies Civil Rights, Constitutional Law, and Criminal Procedure.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (uPlWr)

400 Grammie, you store your high-proof alcohol with your guns? Does that violate one of the four rules of firearms?

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (2sCft)



Well, in my defense, I had forgotten that I'd put that particular firearm in that exact spot. Then when I went to hide the Everclear - so as not to get it mixed up with the regular liquor - I put it in that same spot because it was so good for hiding. Then I forgot about the both of them.


What can you do.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:56 PM (lwiT4)

401 Ran into some people in the grocery store in NY state. They are beaming, high-giving each other like 8 year olds and saying "the Trump nightmare is almost over", yada yada.

I kid you not. They think this is it.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (9lgjh)

402 Cooked tomatoes with 6 fresh sweet basil leaves, little salt, dried oregano ( my fresh hasn't been doing to well this year) and a can of tomato paste to thicken it, been cooking it well over a hour.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (lxZ71)

403 We have an illegal who murdered an American citizen. On the other hand, tonight, we've got an entire political party popping corks over overthrowing the man trying to put a stop to it.
You tell me this country isn't screwed up.
Posted by: Mike at August 21, 2018 06:54 PM

Yes it's sad, but let them hump each other. Neither of these cases have anything to do with Russia or collusion. Worst case scenario it's a FEC violation depending on how the whores were paid and the campaign get's fined. Oh it won't stop them from trying but. Meh. Fuck em.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (VZV4A)

404 393 IDK.. I'm kind of smelling a rat on the Mollie Tibbetts tweet. We shall see.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (dUJdY)


Could be. But I read she was a psych major, so odds are she was an SJW.

Posted by: rickl at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM (sdi6R)

405 I heard that Hildabeast like paddling sessions. Heard it from a guy who runs a motel in Chappaqua. Says he has video. Some fucking drunk Russian was there he says. Had to buy new carpet and mattress after she checked out. She could hardly walk. Huma had to pick her up after she tripped over a vodka bottle that fell out from under her Muu Muu.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (Y274z)

406 "Imran Awan DNC IT guy was sentenced to three months probation today !!!



See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)

WTF?!?!

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (Z48ZB)

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People, how could this be a surprise to anyone reading here?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (KN1xl)

407 I have to say Trump is insanely squeaky clean for a real estate developer. 50 years in business and all they can find is Diet Coke and a saggy porn star.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (+dsLj)

408 I voted with the intent to influence the election. Off to Canada I flee.

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (RuIsu)

409 I don't blame young people for harboring SJW positions.
I blame us.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (w7KSn)

410 Ran into some people in the grocery store in NY state. They are beaming, high-giving each other like 8 year olds and saying "the Trump nightmare is almost over", yada yada.

I kid you not. They think this is it.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 06:57 PM

The higher the highs, the lower the lows. The letdown when they realize they were deceived again will put them in the pits of despair.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (2NqXo)

411 Also gave those buzzards a chance but my dead crow was still there in my yard when I got home so it got cremated.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (lxZ71)

412 Trump will pardon him after his second trial is over
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (10vO4)


I'm not sure Manafort won't get this reversed on appeal but either way he's ok, just out a lot of money for legal fees. I still maintain that this is a warning to anyone thinking of helping an outsider candidate in the future.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (y7DUB)

413 Investigate Mueller.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (EoRCO)

414 NOOD y'all

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (iiixZ)

415 You know what ISN"T a high crime or misdemeanor?

A campaign finance violation.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (Y274z)

416 Sorry, Horde. I can't do this today. Iowa was my home state for seventy years and I'm in mourning with everyone in the state.

Stack that bastard Cohen on top of this and it's just too much.

Hugs to all who are hurting.

creep out

Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (LA9ih)

417 371 "Trump should NOT fire Mueller.

Trump needs to release all hes got ASAP
Posted by: It's me donna at August 21, 2018 06:28 PM (O2RFr)"

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I would say that is his insurance policy.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (KN1xl)


Maximum advantage to release the redacted stuff in unredacted form the last week of September, up to the first two weeks of October. No later because of so much early voting.

It would kill the Commies and #Nevers timing perfectly and bigly.


And run as a campaign ad, Mollie Tibbet's and Kate Steinle's pictures a thousand times, split screen with leading Dems saying "we want open borders" and "eliminate ICE".


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (UsCnO)

418 wow, how is her twitter thread up? people are ruthless.
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (MTjB1)


So many reasons not to have social media. However, knowing what she believed brought my blood pressure down. My grief for her and her family still there, and my disgust at her killer. But that is all.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (Nt/TS)

419 Ran into some people in the grocery store in NY state. They are beaming,
high-giving each other like 8 year olds and saying "the Trump nightmare
is almost over", yada yada.


The same people who will probably defend Rapin' Bill and Teddy to this day.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (oVJmc)

420 nood

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (bUjCl)

421 I don't blame young people for harboring SJW positions.
I blame us.

Posted by: backbeatbaby at August 21, 2018 06:59 PM (w7KSn)
***************

You're right, they should be locked in asylum for their own protection. Padded cells for some.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (ylXIx)

422 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 07:01 PM (UsCnO)


Yes, but Mollie wanted open borders and hated white people, so maybe not real effective.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (Nt/TS)

423 The ruling elite absolutely hate the native white population, but at best they are a parasite on American blood.

This country will be healthy once these demons are burning in hell.
Posted by: trev006 at August 21, 2018 06:55 PM (3Tn95)

Truth.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (sFofr)

424 I'm sorry Grammie. I'm a teetotaller but I would NEVER mess with someone else's alcohol. That's just plain rude! Who does she think she is?

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (hvf9s)

425 406 about Awan go to the Gellerreport, it will make you cry

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (lxZ71)

426 Post script on Mollie Tibbetts:

https://tinyurl.com/y7mqwddq


Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 06:19 PM (yzxic)



...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (uPlWr)

427 What time does the rally in WV start?

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 07:02 PM (MVjcR)

428 President Trump is getting ready to speak.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (ylXIx)

429 So he paid her off. There's no proof he fucked her. The payoff was to stop her lies. Let's not lose sight of that.
Posted by: creeper at August 21, 2018 06:51 PM (LA9ih)

Yep.
And the Cohen language is so vague its pretty suspicious. If Cohen is claiming his client instructed him to break the law, and he didn't advise his client of the illegality, that's on him, not his client.

But it sounds like what he did wasn't even illegal.
And who is he claiming intended to influence the election? Him or Trump?

They'll use this to break the a/c privilege by claiming crime/fraud but it looks very weak-- and bizarre.

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (Z48ZB)

430 I won't speak ill of Mollie Tibbets, may she rest in peace and her family be comforted. Her tweet was misguided and dumb, but I thank God there was no social media around when I was that age because I said and did a lot of stupid shit myself. Let's not be like the people we mock on the left. This young woman is dead at the hands of someone who should have never been here. It happens far too often. I will focus my wrath on the scum that killed her, she didn't deserve any of this.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 21, 2018 07:03 PM (VZV4A)

431 Imran Awan DNC IT guy was sentenced to three months probation today !!!



See? Justice!!
Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 06:35 PM (lwiT4)

WTF?!?!

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 06:38 PM (Z48ZB)

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People, how could this be a surprise to anyone reading here?
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (KN1xl)


How will all the Sleepy Jeff shills paper over this botch job by their somnambulant hero. He's sitting on top of the biggest nest of vipers in the country and hasn't done a fucking thing to send them packing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (y7DUB)

432 grammie winger: "Then when I went to hide the Everclear - so as not to get it mixed up with the regular liquor - I put it in that same spot because it was so good for hiding. Then I forgot about the both of them.

What can you do."


You could lose it in the same lake/pond/estuary where all the other lost firearms are. At least you'd have a fighting chance of recovery given enough motivation.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 21, 2018 07:04 PM (6eEQ+)

433 He's a germaphobe; he wouldn't touch it.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (ylXIx)

434 We REALLY need to get a new country. This one is an embarrassment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (IIQAD)

435 The problem with Markie Post is that she never showed the goods in her prime, or ever.

Closest we ever got, as far as my research shows, is a bit of aureole in a Harry Langdon photo shoot.

https://bit.ly/2PsIiUL


Ya takes what yas can gets.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2018 07:06 PM (fuK7c)

436 We REALLY need to get a new country. This one is an embarrassment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 07:05 PM (IIQAD)


We're in the process of taking this one back.
These inbred interpreters can't last.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:07 PM (ylXIx)

437 "But their ire is against us through Trump. It is as simple as that."

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People out there in voterland are taking note.

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (KN1xl)

438 116 Just got home.. I'm still fuming. Mollie Tibbets killer was a fucking illegal!!!????

well, attempted fucking anyway.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (NmR1a)

439 "I give a shit about Manafort to the extent that he'd be a free man if he hadn't worked for DJT. That should bother everyone here."

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Everyone should. It's like that saying first they came for Manafort and I did nothing ...

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:10 PM (KN1xl)

440 116 Just got home.. I'm still fuming. Mollie Tibbets killer was a fucking illegal!!!????

well, attempted fucking anyway.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (NmR1a)
************


Been in trouble before

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2018 07:11 PM (ylXIx)

441 I still maintain that this is a warning to anyone thinking of helping an outsider candidate in the future.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 21, 2018 07:00 PM (y7DUB)


I agree.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 07:12 PM (Nt/TS)

442 407
I have to say Trump is insanely squeaky clean for a real estate
developer. 50 years in business and all they can find is Diet Coke and a
saggy porn star.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 06:58 PM (+dsLj)

Real estate developer in NYC at that. Even the mob didn't want to fuck with him.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (rnXGe)

443 437 "But their ire is against us through Trump. It is as simple as that."

------------

People out there in voterland are taking note.
Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 07:08 PM (KN1xl)

They'll lie to everyone now and say they're voting donk...might even do so to keep the prosecutors and Antifa types from destroying them and their families. I am certainly considering registering as a donk to avoid problems

Posted by: Snoreregard at August 21, 2018 07:13 PM (Zf9Ej)

444 I have to be honest, when I hear the names Cohen or Manafort I start to fall asleep.

I'm not saying the charges against them aren't legit or whatever, I just don't care. I know I should, but I don't.

If they're guilty, great, lock them up. Whatever.

Posted by: JJTownsend1977 at August 21, 2018 07:16 PM (PsdJu)

445 "No Mueller, no Manafort trial."

Yes, your contention is that only Mueller's team would ever have gone after Manafort. I get that, but I disagree and I think it's silly.

Posted by: GalosGann at August 21, 2018 07:30 PM (Dl9Eq)

446 Hell is coming to breakfast


AND BACON'S COMING WITH ME! YOU HEAR ME?! BACON'S COMING WITH ME!

Posted by: A Healthy Breakfast at August 21, 2018 07:35 PM (yQpMk)

447 Wow, lot of whiny pearl clutching going on.

Posted by: Stainy Geeblus at August 21, 2018 07:39 PM (36a3F)

448 I would not sell Cohen life insurance.
You don't screw with billionaires like Trump. Period.

Darwin on exhibit here.


Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:45 PM (zgX3V)

449 28
The Jon Edwards precedent is in play here. He was charged in a case
where he directed his top campaign contributors to pay off his mistress,
during his campaign - and he was found innocent.
In this case these aren't even contributions, Trump paid the money himself.
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As Rush says, this whole thing is a nothingburger.

Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:48 PM (zgX3V)

450 I have $1,000 to get in on the "Trump will be out of office before fall of next year" action. What odds are you giving.?
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (JUOKG)

I'm just venting. I want to go out and stomp on Democrat front holes, but since I can't, I'll just fume over my own frustration and impotency.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at August 21, 2018 07:50 PM (uCrjJ)

451 113
During a campaign, holding a press conference is an attempt to
"influence the election". Kissing babies is an attempt to "influence
the election". Everything a campaign does is an attempt to "influence
the election".
In this context the phrase is utterly meaningless.

It's called "spin."

Posted by: S at August 21, 2018 07:57 PM (zgX3V)

452 According to a former FEC commissioner who spoke with Mark Levin the potential problem would have been had Trump used campaign money for this purpose, not that he didn't EVEN IF it helped him in the election.
If you got plastic surgery, bought new suits, a new car and said these were to help me get elected they are still not directly related to campaigning hence use your own money. So spending money to keep someone quiet is ALSO not a campaign expenditure. Trump had to use personal money which he did.

Even if Trump knew this money would possibly help him get elected it STILL is not campaign related.

Posted by: bobbymike at August 21, 2018 08:40 PM (gJ4xp)

453 In addition to blackmail, it's a slam dunk case of tax evasion for Stormy. When is Mueller filing those charges?

Posted by: bk in tx at August 21, 2018 08:45 PM (fhqAu)

454 ah, the two-tier justice system at work. Fuck it, blow it up, fire mueller and rosenstien. Hire two special counsels to go directly after clinton and mueller.

By the time the dust settles, there will be vengeance.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 08:53 PM (GoLZO)

Body of Mollie Tibbets, College Student Who Went Missing While Jogging, Found
Suspect in Custody, Subject to an Immigration Detainer

I say we throw a parade in his honor.

After all, the Statue of Liberty has a poem on it.



His Defense? A commenter says -- not sure where he's gotten this -- that the killer claims to have "blacked out" and can't remember killing her.

Illegal claims he "tried to run alongside Mollie" and she told
him to go away or something, and then he "blacked out" and remembers he
dumped her body.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:11 PM




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1
He seems nice.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 05:12 PM (pNxlR)

2 Shoot him now.

Posted by: Ronster at August 21, 2018 05:12 PM (5/nmR)

3 Welp...that's about the last we'll here of this story nationally. It's now officially a 'local news' story.

Posted by: rc at August 21, 2018 05:12 PM (aUCH1)

4 An act of love.

/SPIT

Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2018 05:12 PM (7HtZB)

5 Non story in 4, 3, 2..

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 21, 2018 05:13 PM (9j2iu)

6 Authorities confirm "he is an illegal alien."

The hell you say.

Posted by: Not Martenszoon at August 21, 2018 05:13 PM (Y0wjb)

7 And that's the last we'll hear of poor Mollie.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 05:13 PM (B0pA3)

8 They send their very best.....not.

Posted by: torabora at August 21, 2018 05:13 PM (Y274z)

9 ah, the blacked out defense. Juries love it.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:14 PM (GoLZO)

10 I wouldn't even treat this piece of shit to a hellicopter ride.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:14 PM (g5KCb)

11 Fuck

Posted by: clutch at August 21, 2018 05:14 PM (kiSdp)

12 but isn't this really a trial about her white privilege and about how white women ruined america?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (GoLZO)

13 Woodchipper time.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (NWiLs)

14 The High Fructose Corn Syrup in American Coke made him do it.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (g5KCb)

15 He seems nice.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (HgMAr)

16 10 I wouldn't even treat this piece of shit to a hellicopter ride.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:14 PM (g5KCb)

*sad face*

Posted by: Pinochet Air CFO at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (Y0wjb)

17

I was looking at that Colorado turd who murdered his kids and wife and I said to myself there's a head that needs to roll on the floor.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (LWYzG)

18 Wow, Neuvo Azteca Amerigo is fucking LIT!

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (GoLZO)

19 Better not compare him to an animal!

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (zRwJ/)

20 Hmm.....got a sorta kinda Portuguese name, no?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (fA1SL)

21 "Build the dang wall!"

-John McBrain

Posted by: Max Power at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (q177U)

22 Blacked out lives matters

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (ABjxW)

23 If she had only been shot with a scary gun, we might be able to salvage this.

Posted by: MSM at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (nonGu)

24 He helpfully wore white and black striped prison garb on the day they arrested him.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (2NqXo)

25 the killer claims to have "blacked out" and can't remember killing her.
............

He must have ate the worm.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (HgMAr)

26 to be fair tho, he's not quite a Green Inferno level murderer.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (GoLZO)

27 May her Family & Friends find Strength and be Comforted.

May her murderer see Justice ...

Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (AoK0a)

28 How come some of the nastiest bastards out there are so short?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

29 Well, this story will disappear quickly.

Posted by: no good deed at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (1uG1d)

30 He makes me wish dark side Force powers were real.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (++G28)

31 Hmmm, the blacked out defense - that's RACIST!

Though Hillary may successfully use that if she ever comes up for prosecution.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (37IEG)

32 He blacked out.

But, luckily for him he came to briefly for the rape...

Then, he blacked out again. Until it was time to hide the evidence.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (g5KCb)

33 17




I was looking at that Colorado turd who murdered his kids and wife
and I said to myself there's a head that needs to roll on the floor.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (LWYzG)
I cannot bring myself to read anything about that story.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (a0IVu)

34 12 but isn't this really a trial about her white privilege and about how white women ruined america?
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (GoLZO)

I think you're on to something with the second half of your question.

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (vkS2Z)

35 Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (B0pA3)

36 Just an athlete trying hard to train.

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (Z48ZB)

37 Build the wall.

And drop it on him.

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (jDF8P)

38 18 Wow, Neuvo Azteca Amerigo is fucking LIT!
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (GoLZO)

That's Aztlan, gringo.

Posted by: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (Y0wjb)

39 His Defense? A commenter says -- not sure where he's gotten this -- that the killer claims to have "blacked out" and can't remember killing her.

Then he'll black out and not remember when we execute him.

So, no problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (YqDXo)

40 Please clap.

Posted by: Yeb! Mesmerized by Acts of Love at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (QDnY+)

41 I cannot bring myself to read anything about that story.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (a0IVu)
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I can't either, IC. It's bad enough to know it happened - I don't want or need the details to know how heinous it was.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (JJZzu)

42 Illegal claims he "tried to run alongside Mollie" and she told

him to go away or something, and then he "blacked out" and remembers he

dumped her body.


---

Illegal Drugs will do that to people.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (JUOKG)

43 Shoot him now.

Posted by: Ronster at August 21, 2018 05:12 PM (5/nmR)
.............

Do the world a favor.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (HgMAr)

44 Why do all Murderers have that same stare?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (DzFIB)

45 claims he "tried to run alongside Mollie" and she told him to go away or something, and then he "blacked out" and remembers he dumped her body.

-
Boy, if I had a nickle for every time that's happened to me!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (+y/Ru)

46 THAT's gonna fly in court.

Head on a spike facing south on El Paso's border barrier, seems fair.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (N1ZXu)

47 It's time that we took logical action that would cease illegal border crossers who come across with kids.

The kids are taken away and NEVER given back. Put them up for adoption to good people in good homes that are not relatives.

That would give them something to mull over as they crossed the border laughing their rear ends off, just in time for some of the women to drop their welps in a bush and get cradle to grave welfare.

Ok, half way /sarc

Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (6uV+4)

48 How come some of the nastiest bastards out there are so short?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 21, 2018 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

Short man complex. Its a real thing.

Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (Z48ZB)

49 "Tried to run alongside Mollie."

Translation: Ran up behind her and bashed her head with a rock so he could drag her off into the bushes.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (2NqXo)

50 Remember that poor farmer the investigators kept harassing, claiming he "knew something"??? Yeah, that whole bit is gonna go down the memory hole now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (k1TUh)

51 14 The High Fructose Corn Syrup in American Coke made him do it.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (g5KCb)

No, it was global warming

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (7HtZB)

52 So Cohen says he did it to influence the election.
But Trump was not named.

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (czkHE)

53 Wall.

Posted by: itsatax at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (/1c+O)

54 5'-5" and two inches of grease.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (HgMAr)

55 Are we doing gibbets on the wall?
He can be up first.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (37IEG)

56 Iowa doesn't have capital punishment, in case anyone was wondering.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (y87Qq)

57 Proving again that the Left believes murder (and rape?) is one of those "jobs Americans won't do."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (W+vEI)

58 Beware of an illegal immigrant backlash. So unfair to people here illegally.

Why do I think Mollie would contribute more to the US positively than these lawbreakers.

Her family is from SanFran. Wonder what their stance on illegal immigration is.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (Nt/TS)

59 100 ft. Of rope. Head in a noose. Then drop him from a helicopter. You'll even hear the


*pop*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (89T5c)

60 47 It's time that we took logical action that would cease illegal border crossers who come across with kids.

The kids are taken away and NEVER given back. Put them up for adoption to good people in good homes that are not relatives.

That would give them something to mull over as they crossed the border laughing their rear ends off, just in time for some of the women to drop their welps in a bush and get cradle to grave welfare.

Ok, half way /sarc

Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (6uV+4)

Why? I don't want those fuckin' kids here either.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (4ErVI)

61 Judge Pineapple says they have to let him go until trial.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (ABjxW)

62 I bet he found the weapon he killed her with under a bench in the local park.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (2NqXo)

63 That jogging crap is dangerous....

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (Enq6K)

64 You can't separate poor Cristihian from his parents! Set him free!
Murdering young women s just one of the quaint cultural customs of illegals that we have to applaud.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (CE6iV)

65 hey! Hillary blacked out.


It is a damned good defense.

Posted by: average Leftie at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (UsCnO)

66 diversity ... if we have a peaceful community of united Americans ... diversity can only mean making it less united, more crime ridden, less peaceful.

yup, that makes it more diverse ... some peaceful times, some murderous times ... Diversity worship is such a destructive lie.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (bT8Z4)

67 No human is illegal.

Posted by: Doofus at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (IqV8l)

68 >>Non story in 4, 3, 2..



I'm thinking Trump will not let it be so.
Hang this one on Congress, particularly the RINOs and Democrats, who refuses to fund the Wall.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (W+vEI)

69 Please clap

Posted by: Regular Jeb! at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (7PllL)

70 Juan Williams blew past this story like it was the local farm report just as soon as he heard the words illegal alien.

Posted by: Antisocialist at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (9BwmK)

71

Get him a bus ticket for Frisco.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (qul7b)

72 She told him to go away?

She is obviously a racist and triggered him, so it is her fault.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (Nt/TS)

73 50 Remember that poor farmer the investigators kept harassing, claiming he "knew something"??? Yeah, that whole bit is gonna go down the memory hole now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (k1TUh)

Almost as if they are trying to manufacture facts that support the conclusions the lazy bastards have leapt to!

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (vkS2Z)

74 So......Blame it on the NRA then.

Posted by: David Hogg at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (lbGNh)

75 Bring back the gallows.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (0OmEj)

76 Authorities confirm "he is an illegal alien."
...............

HUMANS ARE NOT ILLEGAL... oh wait, he's an alien?

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (HgMAr)

77 >>That jogging crap is dangerous....


Jogger tits are just gross.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (g5KCb)

78 Candidate for the 1st contestant for -
Pinochet "Guess the number of bounces" contest.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (37IEG)

79 Murdering young women
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (CE6iV)


I think it's called "dreaming". He's a "dreamer".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (y87Qq)

80 @33
I cannot bring myself to read anything about that story
-----------------------

Had something about it on the radio this morning. He's claiming that she strangled the kids after he told her he wanted to seperate.

Oh, and I think it was also mentioned that he was having an affair with a co-worker.

Posted by: junior at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (umy56)

81 Bbbbbbbbbut Manafort

Posted by: #neverskankles at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (hKA/9)

82 Hmm, the right age and arrival here to be a DREAMer.

He was valedictorian at murder school.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (0ogQG)

83 Wall, now!

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (iiixZ)

84 Come on. Hasn't that "running beside her, blacking out, killing her, dumping her body" thing happened to all of us at one time or another. A little sympathy here, people.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (2sCft)

85 Elevator hair. Added at least 2" to his height.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (2NqXo)

86 hey, he has DREAMS too

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (d7Ww2)

87

Aisle seat on Pinochet Airlines.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (qul7b)

88 Woodchipper time.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (NWiLs)

feet first...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (8D42x)

89
Jogger tits are just gross.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (g5KCb)
Stop watching them old joggers man.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:21 PM (37IEG)

90 100 ft. Of rope. Head in a noose. Then drop him from a helicopter. You'll even hear the


*pop*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (89T5c)
...........

Save gas, find an overpass.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM (HgMAr)

91 You may say he's a Dreamer,
But he's not the only one...

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM (2sCft)

92 He'll plead the Shandra Levy defense.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM (iiixZ)

93 It's pretty normal to black out when you fly into a violent rage.

Every fistfight I've ever been in, win, lose or draw is gone from my memory from shortly before the first punch until shortly after the last one... Just gone.

I've never tried to pretend it meant anything - just that I can't remember it.

Not much of a defense there, buddy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM (AzW6q)

94 I think it's called "dreaming". He's a "dreamer".
Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (y87Qq)

Murdreaming. He's a murdreamer.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM (CE6iV)

95 It was an act of Love!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (37IEG)

96 Women, if you jog or walk, carry mace. And, spray them as soon as you get nervous.

Says me, who forgets to bring her mace with her 97% of the time.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (Nt/TS)

97 44 Why do all Murderers have that same stare?
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (DzFIB)


it's the stare of one whose soul has died

Posted by: Ersatz at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (44PTs)

98 Dude's Facebook is still up. Someone with better internet skillz than me should collect whatever you can from it. "Hometown: Guayabillo, Guerrero, Mexico."

Posted by: Alec Leamas at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (fiF07)

99 Definitely white Hispanic

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (7rpiB)

100 59 100 ft. Of rope. Head in a noose. Then drop him from a helicopter. You'll even hear the

*pop*

In 19th century gallows, there were counterweights attached to the other end of the hanging rope, in order to make sure that the neck was broken by the drop. If the hangman miscalculated the counterweight to be used, the condemned mans head would pop right off. Happened quite a few times, made for quite a show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (k1TUh)

101 I figured he would have said he browned out, to not trigger any racist shit.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (ABjxW)

102 Nothin a couple of louisville sluggers could'nt fix.....!

Posted by: Pure hickory at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (SQOeW)

103 Replacing native citizens in a more direct way than the open borders types intended.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (B0pA3)

104 That poor girl. Prayers for her and her family.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (MX7xj)

105 Blacked out is such a racist term. It should be Whited out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (2NqXo)

106 71

Get him a bus ticket for Frisco.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (qul7b)

Why? They'd elect him mayor.

Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (7HtZB)

107 59 100 ft. Of rope. Head in a noose. Then drop him from a helicopter. You'll even hear the


*pop*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (89T5c)


no, that's the point of Pinochet Helicopter Rides. No rope needed. Just a thousand feet of air.

Posted by: average Trump supporter at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (UsCnO)

108 >>I figured he would have said he browned out, to not trigger any racist shit.


'Everything just went Burnt Sienna.'

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (g5KCb)

109 Close down the southern border for all incoming, and only keep the Tijuana gate open as an ejection port for all the illegals we round up. Collect them and shove them all through the door and let Mexico deal with them.
Yeah, it's impossible and impractical, but it's nice to dream.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (8iiMU)

110 56 Iowa doesn't have capital punishment, in case anyone was wondering.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (y87Qq)

so they'll just send him to the cornfield?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (CE6iV)

111 Look, he didn't know English and thought she said "kill me". It's not his fault.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (Nt/TS)

112 the Iowa papers were so excited a few years back when they had their first "majority minority" city. meatpacking plants love them some illegals
take this guy and feed him to the hogs

Posted by: brak at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (VckGX)

113 Her murderer is about learn that it is "3 hots in a cot", not "3 hots and a cot".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (jxbfJ)

114 Sorry, but I can't make jokes here. I'm the father of 4 daughters. Losing even one like this would destroy me.

Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:25 PM (T6t7i)

115 105
Blacked out is such a racist term. It should be Whited out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (2NqXo)
Crayola Crayons introduces their newest color!
Whitspanic!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:25 PM (37IEG)

116 >>It's time that we took logical action that would cease illegal border crossers who come across with kids.




How about we withhold financial aid from countries who send us their people across the border? Especially Mexico, who allows its southern border to breached as long as these aliens move quickly to the Mexico/US border.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:25 PM (W+vEI)

117 I read the linked article but no info....how'd they find the guy?

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 05:25 PM (Enq6K)

118
56 Iowa doesn't have capital punishment, in case anyone was wondering.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (y87Qq)


Transport him, heavily chained and manacled, to Illinois. Then have a "sudden door opening" incident on the bridge across the Mississippi River.

You could equally well substitute "Nebraska" and "Missouri Rivef" into that sentence.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (pNxlR)

119 I wish our laws permitted Death By Spiders

Posted by: weew at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (gk7if)

120 100
59 100 ft. Of rope. Head in a noose. Then drop him from a helicopter. You'll even hear the



*pop*



In 19th century gallows, there were counterweights attached to the
other end of the hanging rope, in order to make sure that the neck was
broken by the drop. If the hangman miscalculated the counterweight to
be used, the condemned mans head would pop right off. Happened quite a
few times, made for quite a show.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:23 PM (k1TUh)

Tell me about it

Posted by: Saddam Hussein at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (jxbfJ)

121 Wow - news was slow, so they ran the Mollie story over and over. Now we get this - Talk about your mega boomerang. We need to be safe on our streets. Period. Always.

Posted by: Jeffrey Wheaton at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (OMMdV)

122 take this guy and feed him to the hogs

Now you're talking.

Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (T6t7i)

123 114
Sorry, but I can't make jokes here. I'm the father of 4 daughters. Losing even one like this would destroy me.


Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:25 PM (T6t7i)
Joking is our way of avoiding doing what the Liberals would really like, and expect, us to do.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (37IEG)

124 It was an attempted rape, you can be sure. The murder was the cherry on top. But, yeah, we all know what he was trying to do when he did what he did.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (fA1SL)

125 Tell me about it
Posted by: Saddam Hussein at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (jxbfJ)

------

Did Saddam's head fly off when they hanged him? If so... AWESOME!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (AzW6q)

126 >> take this guy and feed him to the president of Mexico when he next visits.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (g5KCb)

127 It's pretty normal to black out when you fly into a violent rage.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM

This.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (2NqXo)

128 Deport him back to Mexico.

One small piece at a time.

I figure by time he's reduced to a legless, armless, ear-less and junk-less torso, he might even welcome the succor of death.

But he'd be quite aerodynamic for that one final fling across the border, via giant trebuchet.

Screaming, all the way. On Pay Per View, no less.

These are my *nicer* thoughts for the evil sonofabitch.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (QzJWU)

129 Non story in 4, 3, 2..



I'm thinking Trump will not let it be so.
Hang this one on Congress, particularly the RINOs and Democrats, who refuses to fund the Wall.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (W+vEI)

Then our paid for defense for this piece of $hit will claim he can't get a fair trial.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (9j2iu)

130 114
Sorry, but I can't make jokes here. I'm the father of 4 daughters. Losing even one like this would destroy me.


Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:25 PM (T6t7i)

I have one. One child, a daughter. My gut tightens right up at the mere thought of having to go through what this poor young woman's dad has to face.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (jxbfJ)

131 Guillotine for this POS.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (a0IVu)

132 'Everything just went Burnt Sienna.'

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (g5KCb)


isn't this another color invented by WHITE MEN!???

Posted by: average Leftie at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (UsCnO)

133 >>It's pretty normal to black out when you fly into a violent rage


Or, in Ace's case, when you try and drill a hole into some drywall.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (g5KCb)

134 47 It's time that we took logical action that would cease illegal border crossers who come across with kids.
Ok, half way /sarc
Posted by: Drider at August 21, 2018 05:17 PM (6uV+4)


Like you, I've tried to imagine more severe steps to deter illegals.

One thought is to say to hell with 'the wall.' Why aren't we just laying a minefield as wide as the DMZ? Wouldn't that be cheaper than a wall? It certainly would raise the stakes trying to run the border.

Yes, I know. I'm a monster.

Posted by: Ersatz at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (44PTs)

135 I have one. One child, a daughter. My gut tightens
right up at the mere thought of having to go through what this poor
young woman's dad has to face.


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (jxbfJ)
Same here.

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (a0IVu)

136 It was a brown out.

Posted by: Iowa Power and Light at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (IqV8l)

137
But he'd be quite aerodynamic for that one final fling across the border, via giant trebuchet.



Screaming, all the way. On Pay Per View, no less.



These are my *nicer* thoughts for the evil sonofabitch.







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (QzJWU)
We'll do this one pro bono.

Posted by: Leo Da Vinci - CEO Trebuchet Airways at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (37IEG)

138 Rename it Kate and Mollie's Law? Murdered women have as many dreams as illegals do, and as many rights to not die and see those dreams happen.

Wasn't some refugee acquitted of murder in Europe, because he didn't know the law there said murder was illegal? We live in stupid times.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (hvf9s)

139 'Everything just went Burnt Sienna.'
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM

I think that was the illegal who set the huge forest fire.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (2NqXo)

140 The parents should sue the state government for not enforcing federal immigration laws.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (d7Ww2)

141 This story of national importance will soon go down the media memory hole for OMG!! Manafort!! They're moving in on the Orange Cheetos President !!

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (9lgjh)

142 take this guy and feed him to the hogs

Now you're talking.
Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 05:26 PM (T6t7i)

++++
one small piece at a time. We want him to enjoy it.

Posted by: SteveOReno , I proudly self-identify as a Moron at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (2sCft)

143 109 Close down the southern border for all incoming, and only keep the Tijuana gate open as an ejection port for all the illegals we round up. Collect them and shove them all through the door and let Mexico deal with them.
Yeah, it's impossible and impractical, but it's nice to dream.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (8iiMU)

10 demerits

Posted by: Trebuchet Guy at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (Y0wjb)

144 take this guy and feed him to the president of Mexico when he next visits.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (g5KCb)


You can be my Attorney General if I ever become president.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (B0pA3)

145 100 ft. Of rope. Head in a noose. Then drop him from a helicopter. You'll even hear the


*pop*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 05:19 PM (89T5c)
...........

Save gas, find an overpass.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:22 PM (HgMAr)

and time it so he get to see the semi headed right for him.

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (8D42x)

146 96 Women, if you jog or walk, carry mace. And, spray them as soon as you get nervous.

==

mace
stun gun
telescoping baton
big dog

(the dog being an excuse to carry the other stuff - it's just to protect him from being attacked by feral strays)

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (CE6iV)

147 133 >>It's pretty normal to black out when you fly into a violent rage


Or, in Ace's case, when you try and drill a hole into some drywall.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (g5KCb)

Or forget to drink any fluids for days on end...

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (Enq6K)

148 132
'Everything just went Burnt Sienna.'



Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (g5KCb)





isn't this another color invented by WHITE MEN!???





Posted by: average Leftie at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (UsCnO)
I thought it was a movie star's name.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (37IEG)

149 He needs a front hole...30.06

Posted by: Fed up at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (nzKWW)

150 Jogger tits are just gross.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (g5KCb)

My boobs are gross?!!! I'll keep them holstered from here on out. and all this time i thought i'd been wearing the right sports bras.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (mfIIs)

151 Honestly, I don't know what I would do. That's the scary part.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (89T5c)

152

Decorate The Wall with his skull.

And while we're at it, let's put the skull of that Colorado turd who murdered his kids and wife on The Wall, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (LWYzG)

153 There are many consequences to the Democrat Party's love for and facilitation of illegal immigration. America should be reminded of those consequences frequently.

They can also be reminded of Andrew Cuomo's words on American greatness at the same time.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue Tarrasque Enthusiast at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (BRpqW)

154 I hope he ends up with a new front hole.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (CXUGD)

155 >>Or, in Ace's case, when you try and drill a hole into some drywall.

I like it that you aren't letting him bully you.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (/tuJf)

156 >>Dude's Facebook is still up. Someone with better internet skillz than me should collect whatever you can from it. "Hometown: Guayabillo, Guerrero, Mexico."



And a picture of guns....

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (W+vEI)

157 So, my rage stroking at work at beating co-workers into a coma and not remembering is normal?

Whew.... thought I'd lost it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (iiixZ)

158 Kate Steinle had no comment.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (HiLJ1)

159 I'm thinking Trump will not let it be so.
Hang this one on Congress, particularly the RINOs and Democrats, who refuses to fund the Wall.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:20 PM (W+vEI)

-------------

I'm guessing he will talk about it in West Virginia tonight.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (I16G8)

160 Sounds like a textbook example of someone entitled to a $20,000 signature bond release.

Posted by: Orson at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (OxYb4)

161 134 My husband suggests a minefield, also.
I rather fancy a moat full of alligators.

Posted by: Antisocialist at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (9BwmK)

162 Guillotine for this POS.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (a0IVu)

That's too quick and painless.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (DzFIB)

163 Mollie's murder can mean only one thing.


We must immediately disband ICE.

Posted by: average White Leftie Woman Senator at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (UsCnO)

164 146
96 Women, if you jog or walk, carry mace. And, spray them as soon as you get nervous.



==



mace

stun gun

telescoping baton

big dog



(the dog being an excuse to carry the other stuff - it's just to protect him from being attacked by feral strays)

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:29 PM (CE6iV)

Ankle holster with the largest caliber pistol you can comfortably and accurately shoot. Assuming of course CCW is permitted in your state.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (jxbfJ)

165 Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2018 05:24 PM (8iiMU)



10 demerits

Posted by: Trebuchet Guy at August 21, 2018 05:28 PM (Y0wjb)

Okay, close ALL the gates and set up the trebuchets, and launch them INTO Tijuana....
Better?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (8iiMU)

166 can't wait to hear the lefty douchebags get torn to shreds by Tucker tonight.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (HgMAr)

167 Guillotine for this POS.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (a0IVu)

That's too quick and painless.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (DzFIB)


Not if you think outside the box.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (y87Qq)

168
Illegal claims he "tried to run alongside Mollie" and she told
him to go away


Merely responding to racism.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (IqV8l)

169 Part of the dreamer migration . All women should carry .

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (m/vQu)

170 Hmmm...we could see if Ace wanted to drill a hole in his front.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (37IEG)

171 .45 acp is cheap... just sayin. or .357 or 44 mag or a .22 short to the nuts and a long slow death.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (0OmEj)

172 >>I like it that you aren't letting him bully you.


I will hand it to Ace. His brand of humour all but insists you join him in making fun of him.

You just can't get upset when he flies off in a petulant tizzy when you bag on his accessories.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (g5KCb)

173 134 My husband suggests a minefield, also.
I rather fancy a moat full of alligators.

Posted by: Antisocialist at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (9BwmK)

bordered with bear traps

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (HgMAr)

174

#WhereWasMollie'sSanctuaryCity?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (LWYzG)

175 154
I hope he ends up with a new front hole.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (CXUGD)

Somewhere between the collarbone and belly button, centered. That way he can suffer as the vital blood flows out of his worthless carcass.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (DxWUs)

176 As the mother of two daughters in college, I am beyond words and so disgusted by this crazy world we live in. This is Iowa so hopefully the death penalty is imposed. Quickly.

Posted by: Juicebox Hero at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (M3WlM)

177 Just watching a true crime show about a son-in-law who allowed his mother-in-law to live them after she had a stroke. He said she couldn't smoke. She smoked anyway. He was a strict parent. She didn't like that. She eventually shot him using 15 rounds, striking him 12 times. She used a revolver. Walkered her way out to get more ammo out of the car and reloaded twice.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (+y/Ru)

178 This is absolutely terrible. Hopefully her suffering and that of her loved ones will have some benefit in the fight to keep these incidents from happening in the future.

Posted by: Keith at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM (USf3s)

179 I suspect her father will not want to hear any SOB who wants to have open borders, abolish ICE, or give amnesty to any of these illegal SOBs.


If it was up to me he would get the death penalty after no more than a year of appeals.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (mpXpK)

180 Guillotine for this POS.
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 05:27 PM (a0IVu)

That's too quick and painless.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (DzFIB)

Dull and gets stuck half way through.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (m/vQu)

181 Can't wait for the next AEI article about the wonders of amnesty.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (1jWCo)

182 The Border should be a Live Fire Zone.

Bring your own Guns, Ammo and a Driver's License.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (g5KCb)

183 Ankle holster with the largest caliber pistol you can comfortably and accurately shoot. Assuming of course CCW is permitted in your state.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (jxbfJ)


Yes, BUT: only if you're willing to use it. If you aren't sure that you'd be able to go through with it, FFS carry something you will be willing to use. If that's OC, carry OC.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (y87Qq)

184 Ankle holster with the largest caliber pistol you can comfortably and accurately shoot. Assuming of course CCW is permitted in your state.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (jxbfJ)

wouldn't you need two ankle holsters to even the weight?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (CE6iV)

185 I'd like to volunteer my services to strap him to the gurney and shove the needle in his veins.

Posted by: budman at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (cRwSI)

186 In all seriousness, a group that bears a huge part of the responsibility for this are the Meatpacking plants and other agricultural employers who transport thousands of illegals up to Iowa and then pay them to stay there, because they don't want to pay what it would cost to get actual Americans to do the work.

That's the only reason that killer, and the rest of those like him, were ever in Iowa in the first place. Of course we should punish the perp - but don't spend all of our time chasing after little fish, while we ignore the Big Rich Fish who made this all happen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (k1TUh)

187 Cohen said about as far as he could say without getting anal raped legally in libel suits while he rots in jail.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (+dsLj)

188 Right under the KWWL tweet:

Replying to @KWWL

Don't use the word "alien" to refer to human beings.

Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (Enq6K)

189 suspect her father will not want to hear any SOB who wants to have open borders, abolish ICE, or give amnesty to any of these illegal SOBs.


If it was up to me he would get the death penalty after no more than a year of appeals.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (mpXpK)

The father lives in California so that's not a guarantee.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (m/vQu)

190 OT


AZ. early voting update.

65k ballots cast (total 612k).

GOP increases lead.

Posted by: HA at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (MAstk)

191 Don't sweat it , amigo

Posted by: Jose Inez Garcia Zarate at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (7rpiB)

192 >>Women, if you jog or walk, carry mace. And, spray them as soon as you get nervous.



Heck, there was a young gal who was beaten and raped while jogging on the treadmill in her apartment's gym. By an illegal alien.
Even playing it safe didn't protect her.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (W+vEI)

193 It's lovely to see the left ejaculating all over my Facebook wall today.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (+dsLj)

194 For murders like this, a very simple solution:


Guilty? No problem. You are set free. Free as a bird.

Except...........

As a murderer, you have lost all human rights. all of them.

And the public is given notice when and where you are released.

And the public gets to decide whatever they want, and can bring their guns.


Murderer wouldn't make it a hundred yards.

Posted by: average Trump supporter at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (UsCnO)

195 >>I will hand it to Ace. His brand of humour all but insists you join him in making fun of him.

I think we should make it a weekly thread.

Garrett and ace trade insults. I'd read it religiously.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (/tuJf)

196 That wasn't Saddam, that was his half-brother Barzan al-Tikriti, who lost his head, literally, at his hangin'.


Not likely a hangman's error, but an error by someone up the chain. Barzan had degenerative diseases, likely had a weakened skeletal system. So, big oopsie when being hanginated.


I still chuckle to recall when it was termed a "botched execution".


Umm ......



Posted by: Yeb! Mesmerized by Acts of Love at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (QDnY+)

197 I have the feeling we're going to see people start going all Clyde Shelton - the law abiding citizen - on people like this soon, if the law doesn't start doing something to punish them.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (ABjxW)

198 Blacked out? He's going to be popular on the prison dating scene.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (9lgjh)

199 REMOVE AZTEC
REMOVE MAYAN

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (fA1SL)

200 I am sure this is what the cheap labor forever crowd believes is good for the economy, or something.

Who will pick our corn without such hardworking men?

I am sure some low level idiot at the National Review or Wall Street Journal is writing something along those lines now.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (MuTTO)

201 In all seriousness, a group that bears a huge part of the responsibility
for this are the Meatpacking plants and other agricultural employers
who transport thousands of illegals up to Iowa and then pay them to stay
there, because they don't want to pay what it would cost to get actual
Americans to do the work.



That's the only reason that killer, and the rest of those like him,
were ever in Iowa in the first place. Of course we should punish the
perp - but don't spend all of our time chasing after little fish, while
we ignore the Big Rich Fish who made this all happen.


exactly, and the idiots in the state gov that say "Iowa needs more diversity" if anyone complains

Posted by: brak at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (VckGX)

202 OR just put him in with the general prison population. They get things DONE.

Posted by: Antisocialist at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (9BwmK)

203 Haven't the invaders over in Europe claimed that blacked out when raping European women and young kids? And won their cases based on the blacked out defense in some cases? Isn't blacking out a symptom of a sexual emergency?

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (sFofr)

204 180 Dull and gets stuck half way through.
Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (m/vQu)

the mary queen of scots treatment. nice.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (mfIIs)

205 >>> Sorry, but I can't make jokes here. I'm the father of 4 daughters. Losing even one like this would destroy me.

I get that, and sympathize. *hugs* On occasion I use gallows humor as a defense mechanism, obviously others here do too. It's sometimes a needed pressure valve from the alternative reactions, ie crying or punching something.

I am reminded of a scene from So I Married an Axe Murderer that always makes me laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsgVCxRjSJ4

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (hvf9s)

206 199 REMOVE AZTEC
REMOVE MAYAN
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (fA1SL)

REMOVE INCA

Just to hit the Trifecta.

Posted by: Hikaru at August 21, 2018 05:36 PM (9De+S)

207 And I want to add - when I say the Big Rich Fish who are making this all happen, I am talking about the GOP-e and all of their CofC friends. The progs are contemptible because their ideology is so stupid and self destructive. But the CofC and the GOP-e are in many ways worse, because they KNOW that what they are doing is wrong, and they sell us out anyways just to put a few more dollars in their pockets.

Mollie Tibbets was sacrificed to keep up the profits of Iowa's agro-business establishment.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:36 PM (k1TUh)

208 What an adorable tot! Please don't put him in a cage.

Posted by: jeannebodine at August 21, 2018 05:36 PM (ttFx9)

209 That poor young girl. Life cut short by that POS illegal alien.

Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (gmo/4)

210 Sounds like a textbook example of someone entitled to a $20,000 signature bond release.
Posted by: Orson at August 21, 2018 05:30 PM (OxYb4)


Or his own recognizance. He's not a danger to the community. Only to jogging, racist, white women. Especially the Republican ones. We need to get rid of them anyway. He's doing America a favor.

White women should not be out jogging. It's her fault.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (Nt/TS)

211 >>Mollie Tibbets was sacrificed to keep up the profits of Iowa's agro-business establishment.


Just like my Weed Whacker.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (g5KCb)

212 So, how did the police discover this animal? Tip?

They have been looking for Tibbetts body for almost a month. Either this animal killed her quickly or he kidnapped her and kept her for a while.

The police didn't randomly find an illegal who admits to killing a 20 year old female jogger.

May she rest in peace for whatever horrendous things happened to her and may her family and her boyfriend eventually find peace for themselves. But that is going to take a long time.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (YbmG/)

213 OR just put him in with the general prison population. They get things DONE.
Posted by: Antisocialist


Nope.

The Mexican mafia, La Eme, will gladly protect him.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (1jWCo)

214 I'll gladly pay for the bullet.

Posted by: EyeSurgeon at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (6em3m)

215 206. * fistbump *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (fA1SL)

216 For all the other parents who dealt with this nightmare situation prior to this particular crime, every time it happens again it must be like a knife to the heart, a sense of despair and futility, that other families have to go through it. It would probably be easier to bear if the democrat party wasn't encouraging, aiding, and abetting the killers who come here illegally.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:37 PM (2NqXo)

217 I'm "a commenter" now. Sweet.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (ptqGC)

218 171/175 it would be worth $1.24 to use a 45/70. Stomach wound!

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (CXUGD)

219 >>>Garrett and ace trade insults. I'd read it religiously

ace should come to MT and they can do a podcast.

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (Tm+wy)

220 Rusty carrot peeler.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (1g7ch)

221 Since he's an illegal alien, can he be tried in federal court for the murder?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (W+vEI)

222 Haven't the invaders over in Europe claimed that blacked out when raping European women and young kids? And won their cases based on the blacked out defense in some cases? Isn't blacking out a symptom of a sexual emergency?

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (sFofr)


It takes a really twisted and pathetic legal system to accept "blacking out" as a defense for anything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (63i9Y)

223 Who will pick our corn without such hardworking men?

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (MuTTO)

Machines.

And they will make our burgers and slaughter our pigs soon too. And maybe even cut our lawns. There are infinite possibilities for robotics to take over low-skill work.

And then Central America and South America can keep their murderers and 5th century sanitary traditions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (wYseH)

224 So where's that fucker that came down the escalator and said all those bad things about our beautiful illegals.

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (7rpiB)

225
Awaiting a sage pronouncement on this matter from A. Nina Pinta Mongo Santa Maria.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (pNxlR)

226 It takes a really twisted and pathetic legal system to accept "blacking out" as a defense for anything.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August




yep, racist too.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (MTjB1)

227 197 I have the feeling we're going to see people start going all Clyde Shelton - the law abiding citizen - on people like this soon, if the law doesn't start doing something to punish them.

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (ABjxW)

It's already happening in Europe. A couple of pedophiles, one in Italy and one in Wales, executed in their homes.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (4ErVI)

228 184
Ankle holster with the largest caliber pistol you can comfortably and
accurately shoot. Assuming of course CCW is permitted in your state.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (jxbfJ)



wouldn't you need two ankle holsters to even the weight?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (CE6iV)

3 is 2. 2 is one. 1 is none. Law of redundancy.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (jxbfJ)

229 If Cohen paid off others before the campaign, it helps Trump

Who's been paying Stormy and Avenatti

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (n+6mJ)

230 Jen, I can't find how they found out about him, either. All I could find is that once they found him, he led them to her body.

Animal.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (JJZzu)

231 Another of the protected class, they will never learn.





And all for a few votes to stay in office.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (lxZ71)

232 Hope her family will get closure
Hope this little p.o.s. 's rectum doesn t get closure...till they smoke him

Posted by: Falsecast at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (8SBYm)

233 so, he is a midget? not even 5'6"?

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (MTjB1)

234 >>ace should come to MT and they can do a podcast.


I offered to take the little fella fishing.

Also told him he was welcome to sleep in the hay barn if he wanted to come out and ride horsies like a cowboy.

There are plenty of feral cats for him to eat.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (g5KCb)

235 I'm very sorry for her family. May justice be done, and may she rest in the arms of God the Father.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (lwiT4)

236 We have two daughters too. God comfort Mollie's family. Rest in peace Mollie.

Swift justice for this pos.

Posted by: d9 at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (WX+x0)

237 222 Haven't the invaders over in Europe claimed that blacked out when raping European women and young kids? And won their cases based on the blacked out defense in some cases? Isn't blacking out a symptom of a sexual emergency?

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM (sFofr)

It takes a really twisted and pathetic legal system to accept "blacking out" as a defense for anything.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 21, 2018 05:38 PM (63i9Y)

Like the European one which is overflowing with empathy?

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 05:41 PM (sFofr)

238 Trump just landed in West Virginia. Lynch mob MFM screaming at him. Trump says Manafort case had nothing to do with Russian collusion. here's the experts again to let us know that Trump is finished

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 05:41 PM (OLCnA)

239 In all seriousness, a group that bears a huge part of the responsibility for this are the Meatpacking plants and other agricultural employers who transport thousands of illegals up to Iowa and then pay them to stay there, because they don't want to pay what it would cost to get actual
Americans to do the work.
Posted by: brak at August 21, 2018 05:35 PM

It's funny because food prices keep going up-up-up. None of that chiseling they're doing on costs is reaching the consumer.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:41 PM (2NqXo)

240 So, how did the police discover this animal? Tip?



There was a $400,000 reward. That's the only thing I know so far. I don't know if that was how they caught him though.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:41 PM (Nt/TS)

241 It's already happening in Europe. A couple of pedophiles, one in Italy and one in Wales, executed in their homes."

It's happening right now in Brazil and Ecuador - locals are getting pissed off at the flood of Venezuelans pouring into their neighborhoods and committing crimes. Starting to be some serious civic unrest, even riots.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:41 PM (k1TUh)

242 Do you want to pay ten dollars for a hot dog?

Posted by: Oscar Mayer at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (IqV8l)

243 233 so, he is a midget? not even 5'6"?
Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 05:40 PM (MTjB1)

Not All Manlets Are Like That.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (sFofr)

244 I'm thinking Tom Servo may be onto something.

Maybe it's time for a lot of shit to just start burning.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (HiLJ1)

245 There have been a few efforts focused on use of illegal labor by midwestern ag/meatpacking concerns, but not nearly enough.


Yeah, yeah, limited resources and priorities.


But one emerging de facto effect of the near-exclusive focus on criminal illegal aliens is creeping psychological "normalization" of the far bigger (but less dramatic) problem - mass illegal migration, which is "sustainable" only through agri- and other businesses being able to do this with impunity.


This is an area where Congress cannot block action. But the administration has done almost zero "demonstration" operations against known perp sectors, which could have wide-ranging ripple effects on others.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (QDnY+)

246 242 Do you want to pay ten dollars for a hot dog?
Posted by: Oscar Mayer at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (IqV8l)

Si, senor.

Posted by: Venezuela at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (ABjxW)

247 Unlurking. Not used to seeing actual breaking news on the HQ. This is unbelievable (not the Ace thing). How y'all doin'?

Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (14URa)

248 233 so, he is a midget? not even 5'6"?

He's a giant in Mexico. really, have you met many of those guys?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (k1TUh)

249 188 Right under the KWWL tweet:

Replying to @KWWL

Don't use the word "alien" to refer to human beings.
Posted by: Tami at August 21, 2018 05:33 PM (Enq6K)

----------------------

I read that, a Bernie Bro it looks like.

Ok...

"Cheap Labor" kills jobs, salaries, and people.

Bernie Bros support cheap labor of the Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: William Eaton at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (MuTTO)

250 244
I'm thinking Tom Servo may be onto something.



Maybe it's time for a lot of shit to just start burning.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (HiLJ1)

Who was the commenter that always said:

Burn it down, scatter the stones, salt the earth.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (jxbfJ)

251 Both my daughter and my daughter-in-law are runners. They do triathlons, so are out pounding the pavement quite a bit on rural roads. I've always thought - Wisconsin - so......


But this was Iowa. Iowa.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (lwiT4)

252 Re the poor farmer originally questioned...
The last time an abducted iowa girl made the news, it was a farmer. And one of the things that protects a crazy is isolating themselves from people who will notice their crazy. Farms are good for that...and digging equipment...and plowed land...and hogs that will make undesirable meat disappear.
However, in this case, it appears that it was just one of those cultural misunderstandings during courtship that sometimes lead to death in young women. I'm pretty sure that's not even a crime.

Posted by: Truth in advertising at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (FV7LC)

253 lot of combines in iowa, maybe let him see if he can stay ahead of one. in a cornfield. as long as this pile of fly shit likes jogging so much. i blame every liberal sucker of cock for this one. something tells me this isn't going to be the last one. if i say any more, ace will ban my ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (KP5rU)

254 Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:36 PM (k1TUh)

So how does the average schmuck like me confront Tom Donahue and his dirtbags? I'm tired of them screwing us over.

Posted by: clutch at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (kiSdp)

255 This ain't the first girl he's raped or probably murdered.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (m/vQu)

256 Jen, I can't find how they found out about him, either. All I could find is that once they found him, he led them to her body.



Animal.



Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 05:39 PM (JJZzu)



During earlier presser, police spokesman said they got the perp's black van on video.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (ptqGC)

257 Does the MFM have time to cover this story. Its just a local story, and they won't have any of their famous round table discussions on this.

Posted by: Colin at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (tGAlU)

258 >>> 96 Women, if you jog or walk, carry mace. And, spray them as soon as you get nervous.

I took a RAD (rape, aggression, defense) class in college, where local police teach you how to stop an attacker in various scenarios. It is so empowering, every woman should take it. If a guy had actually come after me right after I completed the course, I would have felt sorry for him! Once you take it, you can take it for free each time after. Worth it. Some martial arts places will teach a similar class.

The stats for rape the left throws out there have been disproven, yes, but there are still terrible people out there. I prefer to be prepared.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:44 PM (hvf9s)

259 Hiya Peaches! How's things? Hope you are having a fine summer.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 05:44 PM (lwiT4)

260 from the NY Post:

Cristhian Rivera, 24, was charged Tuesday in Poweshiek County after being brought in without incident by local cops



Posted by: brak at August 21, 2018 05:44 PM (VckGX)

261 the thing is ... the poem is a bs reason yeah, BUT, probably 80% of the population does NOT want this flow of illegals, and probably agrees the anchor baby crap is also bull. Our government knows we don't want it yet they are constantly ruling AGAINST US.

There is intent to commit this crime/fraud against the American people ... not for our own good, not because they are wiser or believe in diversity, ... they are committing this fraud on US (sedition, total sellout as we turn third world, adios America!) .. for MONEY.

Few do it for ideology ... except maybe Guitierez in Chicago, with his district comprised of illegals (or the other ~20 districts that have their La Raza rep because illegals count in the sense in districting).

It is Pure Sellout of America ... and the poem meme, the diversity meme ... weak tea lies, everyone knows they are lies, yet TheNarrative must be pushed.

In the end Winston (by coercion) loved Big Brother.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 05:44 PM (bT8Z4)

262 This may be the straw that broke the camels back.

Although the clintonnewsnetwork is calling him an udocumented immigrant. SMFH

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 21, 2018 05:45 PM (M+Lyo)

263 Have you wingnuts even had tapas??? Eggs and omelettes and all that.

Posted by: broseidon, semi-official komodo dragon shifter at August 21, 2018 05:45 PM (oZ6kz)

264 51 14 The High Fructose Corn Syrup in American Coke made him do it.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:15 PM (g5KCb)

No, it was global warming
Posted by: Stevie Wonder at August 21, 2018 05:18 PM (7HtZB)


Net neutrality claims another victim.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at August 21, 2018 05:45 PM (YqDXo)

265 Allen G

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2018 05:45 PM (89T5c)

266 So, during jury selection is the defense attorney going to ask people if they voted for Trump? I suppose anyone who wanted to get out of jury duty for this one could just wear a MAGA hat.

By the way, my brother in law was on a jury for a murder. My sister said he wouldn't talk about it. At all. I guess it's pretty awful to listen to and look at the evidence.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 21, 2018 05:45 PM (+lVUW)

267 Welp...that's about the last we'll here of this story nationally. It's now officially a 'local news' story.

Yes. But that's just so the time can be freed up to inform us that the Animal Crackers are now out of their cages!

https://tinyurl.com/y7yzex8r

Posted by: tu3031 at August 21, 2018 05:45 PM (jDF8P)

268 Authorities confirm "he is an illegal alien."

Oh, yeah, we know the guy. You think we're just eating donuts all day?!

Posted by: Authorities at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (n6bs1)

269 This story will be disappeared faster than Tater Stelter downing a half dozen donuts in the green room at CNN.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (ptqGC)

270 Peaches, you don't know how happy I am to see you. How have you been? I get worried about Morons I don't see for a while. It's the Mom thing.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (JJZzu)

271 You just can't get upset when he flies off in a petulant tizzy when you bag on his accessories.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 05:32 PM


Dude. Do that, and you're bagging not just on Ace, but on J. Crew, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (ctuyM)

272 happy birthay friend!...stick around!

Posted by: concrete girl at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (Tm+wy)

273 206 199 REMOVE AZTEC
REMOVE MAYAN
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (fA1SL)

REMOVE INCA

Just to hit the Trifecta.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 21, 2018 05:36 PM (9De+S)

REMOVE NEPHILIM

Posted by: Steve Quayle at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (sFofr)

274 Needle in vein inject 60 cc of air.

vigilante time

Posted by: d9 at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (WX+x0)

275 247 Unlurking. Not used to seeing actual breaking news on the HQ. This is unbelievable (not the Ace thing). How y'all doin'?

Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (14URa)

Hey Peaches!

Peeps asked about you in a recent Hey What Happened To *fillinname* Commenter!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (4ErVI)

276 they should just let that pig farmer who got his name and photo spread on every monitor in America have him.

Well, let his pigs have him anyway. Or both. Whatever.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM (yL25O)

277 >>> 233 so, he is a midget? not even 5'6"?

In awe of the size of this lad. Absolute unit.

Posted by: Robert Reich at August 21, 2018 05:47 PM (tvzmd)

278 Peaches! How's it going? Indiana treating you well?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:47 PM (ptqGC)

279 245
There have been a few efforts focused on use of illegal labor by midwestern ag/meatpacking concerns, but not nearly enough.


Yeah, yeah, limited resources and priorities.
I think it is time to re-prioritize.
Enough LEO needs to swoop in and go through all the meat packing plants and other places illegals worked -- much like Sherman through Atlanta. Shutter the plants until they hire true legal verified workers. Then park federal observers in their HR departments to monitor hiring.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:47 PM (jxbfJ)

280 This story will be disappeared faster than Tater Stelter downing a half dozen donuts in the green room at CNN.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:46 PM

I read that as, drowning a half dozen donuts. In a vat of covfefe maybe.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:47 PM (2NqXo)

281 Didn't they find another body during their search?

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:47 PM (m/vQu)

282 It's happening right now in Brazil and Ecuador - locals are getting pissed off at the flood of Venezuelans pouring into their neighborhoods and committing crimes. Starting to be some serious civic unrest, even riots.

When a group of people moves to Brazil and causes the crime rate to go UP, that's really extraordinary.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 21, 2018 05:47 PM (9qZ3S)

283 The father lives in California so that's not a guarantee.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (m/vQu)

But the crime took place in Iowa so CA law does not apply. But from what people are saying Iowa has no death penalty. Since CA does have a death penalty it should be able to occur there, but CA manages to stretch the execution so long those sentenced always die before being executed. I don't think CA has executed anybody in 20 or 30 years.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (mpXpK)

284 What exactly is the crime Trump committed for his lawyer to pay someone to shut up for a tryst a decade ago?


oh, none.


How does this relate to Russia and the US presidential election?


oh, none.


But according to the BJ press, Trump is gone.


Posted by: average Trump supporter at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (UsCnO)

285 This story won't see the light of day. It will be non stop Manafort and Cohen

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (OLCnA)

286 Ankle holster with the largest caliber pistol you can comfortably and accurately shoot. Assuming of course CCW is permitted in your state.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:31 PM (jxbfJ)

Um, no. Jogging with an ankle holster is really difficult.
There are great holsters that wrap around the waist with magnetic closure that secure your weapon and have them in great reach, and conceal well beneath t-shirts, etc. My favorite is from Pistol Wear.
http://www.pistolwear.com/holsters/

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (YbmG/)

287
He's a giant in Mexico. really, have you met many of those guys?
Posted by: Tom Servo


Do they play basketball?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (IqV8l)

288 peaches!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (KP5rU)

289
But according to the BJ press, Trump is gone.


According to them, Hillary is President

Posted by: Roy at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (ABjxW)

290 That piece of human garbage in CO needs to be pig feed, as well. I can't even imagine.....

Never mind. Can't even talk about it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (ptqGC)

291 Peaches!!! Hi there!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (hvf9s)

292 Suppose this animal works at a meat-packing plant. Suppose the management of that company regularly brings in illegals as a cost-cutting measure. And suppose that meat-packing plant mysteriously burned to the ground.

Would that not be an effective way to correct the problem?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (HiLJ1)

293 The Five showing the mug shot. Juan Williams strangely quiet.

Why, oh why couldn't Jerry Rivers be on today?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (ptqGC)

294 258, I'd back that mace up with brass knuckles fwiw. I've seen hexagonal ones sold at my local Krav Maga studio.

Posted by: JT at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (CXUGD)

295 Hey, bluebell!!! I miss you guys all the time, too. Just adjusting to the whole new deal here.

Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (14URa)

296 Cristhian Rivera, 24, was charged Tuesday in Poweshiek County after being brought in without incident by local cops
.............

Gee, you'd think he would have at least broken his nose on the cop car door or something.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:50 PM (HgMAr)

297 However, in this case, it appears that it was just one of those cultural misunderstandings during courtship that sometimes lead to death in young women. I'm pretty sure that's not even a crime.
Posted by: Truth in advertising at August 21, 2018 05:43 PM (FV7LC)


Maybe he was trans, and she wouldn't date him. So ya know, her fault. Anyway you cut it, he was a victim. Too bad he didn't have a gun which he found, and accidentally went off. Then he wouldn't have to worry a about a jury conviction...like that San Fran illegal alien case.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 05:50 PM (Nt/TS)

298
Cristhian Rivera, 24, was charged Tuesday in Poweshiek County after being brought in without incident by local cops

.............



Gee, you'd think he would have at least broken his nose on the cop car door or something.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:50 PM (HgMAr)


Or accidentally slammed both hands in the door. Oops!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (ptqGC)

299 Peaches? Peaches is here?

Hi Peaches!!!

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (Ze5Wq)

300 Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (14URa)


You should come to the Ohio MoMe this year if you're still in Indy

Posted by: buzzion at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (zRwJ/)

301 Repeat...

Trump's rally in WV will be lit as fuck.

There's much to rail at.

Theme... build the fucking wall, now.

And I'm hoping for an AoSHQ live blog with drinking.

Too much to ask for?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (iiixZ)

302 296
Cristhian Rivera, 24, was charged Tuesday in Poweshiek County after being brought in without incident by local cops

.............



Gee, you'd think he would have at least broken his nose on the cop car door or something.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:50 PM (HgMAr)

That probably followed the mug shot. Don't want photographic evidence of any sudden falls down stairs.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (jxbfJ)

303 He's a giant in Mexico. really, have you met many of those guys?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Do they play basketball?"

Now you know why they prefer a game where the ball always stays on the ground.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (k1TUh)

304 >>> The Five showing the mug shot. Juan Williams strangely quiet. Why, oh why couldn't Jerry Rivers be on today? Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (ptqGC)

Of all the cable channels, FOX can be counted on to not let this die. Jerry will get his say, no worries!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (hvf9s)

305 Sure, we lose a few Americans every month to illegals, but do you really want to pay $100 for a head of lettuce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (Mouru)

306 301
Repeat...



Trump's rally in WV will be lit as fuck.



There's much to rail at.



Theme... build the fucking wall, now.



And I'm hoping for an AoSHQ live blog with drinking.



Too much to ask for?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (iiixZ)

Shot of tequilla for every "Make America Great Again" sign?Drink of beer for every "Build the wall!"

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (jxbfJ)

307 Of all the cable channels, FOX can be counted on to not let this die. Jerry will get his say, no worries!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (hvf9s)


Yep.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (ptqGC)

308 I was looking at that Colorado turd who murdered his kids and wife and I said to myself there's a head that needs to roll on the floor.

Posted by: Soothsayer -

He's trying to blame his wife. Says during an "emotional" discussion, he told her he wanted a divorce due to a mistress. Later he claimed he found her strangling one daughter with the other one already dead. So he had to strangle her and hide the bodies.

Have fun in Super-Max.

Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (oiNtH)

309 I was on a grand jury once and we listen to the evidence for two murders. When the defendants came before use, they looked like nice guys. But by then, we had heard enough shit stories we were ready to send them to trial and hoped they would hang. (don't know if they were found guilty, as you hear a number of cases over the three weeks, and you don't have a way of following the cases later at their trials, if there was one)

Posted by: Colin at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (tGAlU)

310 305
Sure, we lose a few Americans every month to illegals, but do you really want to pay $100 for a head of lettuce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (Mouru)

I think Mollie's dad would.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (jxbfJ)

311 Deffskwadz. This is the kinda shit that gets you deffskwadz.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (fA1SL)

312 Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (iiixZ)

Wait, there's drinking?

Like, now?

Can we all have Messenger bags too?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (4ErVI)

313 EMPEECH TROOMP!!!

Posted by: Rev. Al at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (oVJmc)

314 Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (YbmG/)

I carry my backup kel tec P 3AT . 380 everywhere . I've played full court B-Ball with it in my shorts pocket. (Never know who will crash those games . )

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (m/vQu)

315 smaller towns ... for their chicken plants or whatever, like to get that cheap illegal labor, and the town ends up dealing with the problems ... but e-verify would be so easy, so who is bribing whom to get these funds. Is that the way to save rural america ... import the third world and collect the federal welfare $$$. The sanctuary cities think it works for them ...

traitors, evil people in DC yeah, but right in our own back yards, we get sold out. Little cabals, have their friends, get their favored contracts, circle of lawyer friends in the guild ... either we restore America, or we all join the most powerful gangs we can find and show no mercy.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (bT8Z4)

316 I have a dream.

That one day little white women can go for a jog and not be molested, raped and killed while doing so.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (EoRCO)

317 Nobody is guilty, unless one is of the paler complexion...then, well, remember that whole Crusades thing.

Posted by: some rat in the swamp at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (LOq4H)

318 Gee, you'd think he would have at least broken his nose on the cop car door or something.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:50 PM (HgMAr)

That probably followed the mug shot. Don't want photographic evidence of any sudden falls down stairs.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:51 PM (jxbfJ)



It's never too late to hang yourself in your cell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (Mouru)

319 279 245
There have been a few efforts focused on use of illegal labor by midwestern ag/meatpacking concerns, but not nearly enough.

Last time there was a major raid at a packing house, the illegals tried to unionize, and the embodiment of all Jewish stereotypes owner, Sholom Rubashkin, called the INS to break them. He ended up in jail too, but I Trump just pardoned him last year.

Posted by: Truth in advertising at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (FV7LC)

320 >>> Trump's rally in WV will be lit

I forgot that's tonight! What time?


Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (hvf9s)

321 faster than Tater Stelter downing a half dozen donuts



that is both funny and obscene at the same time.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (UsCnO)

322 308
I was looking at that Colorado turd who murdered his kids and wife and I
said to myself there's a head that needs to roll on the floor.



Posted by: Soothsayer -



He's trying to blame his wife. Says during an "emotional"
discussion, he told her he wanted a divorce due to a mistress. Later
he claimed he found her strangling one daughter with the other one
already dead. So he had to strangle her and hide the bodies.



Have fun in Super-Max.

Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (oiNtH)

Prison justice will be meted out on this case. No mexican is going to protect him, unless he is their bitch.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (jxbfJ)

323 If there was ever a day that the MFM deserved to be shoved into a wood chipper today is it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (OLCnA)

324 This is an area where Congress cannot block action. But the administration has done almost zero "demonstration" operations against known perp sectors, which could have wide-ranging ripple effects on others.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 05:42 PM (QDnY+)

Actually, the Trump administration through ICE and the DOJ, made several mass arrests of landscaping companies in Northwestern Ohio this spring who were hiring numbers of illegals. Corso's Flowers and Landscaping had 115 plus employees arrested by ICE at their two locations.
Remember the media crying and sobbing about how their little kids were left in daycare with no one to pick them up.....

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (YbmG/)

325 The Left doesn't care. Anyway, she was white. She doesn't count.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (H8QX8)

326 Welp, that was a mistake. DO NOT read the comments at Twitter.

"Since when do Democrats believe in open borders?" argues some lib.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (ptqGC)

327 Um, no. Jogging with an ankle holster is really difficult.

Seconded. I carried a .38 Smith and Wesson J frame on my ankle for a few months.

Even with that thing strapped down as tight as I could make it, I could feel it hopping around if I jogged a few steps.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (9qZ3S)

328 Hey, bluebell!!! I miss you guys all the time, too. Just adjusting to the whole new deal here.
Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 05:49 PM (14URa)
--------

Well, I hope it's all going great for you. Don't forget about your friends here. We miss you.

Posted by: bluebell at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (JJZzu)

329 How many diet cokes did he drink? I bet that did it. Because look at Trump.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (dKiJG)

330 Shot of tequilla for every "Make America Great Again" sign?Drink of beer for every "Build the wall!"

I'd be in a coma if it was drink every time he says "Witch Hunt."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (iiixZ)

331 It's happening right now in Brazil and Ecuador - locals are getting pissed off at the flood of Venezuelans pouring into their neighborhoods and committing crimes. Starting to be some serious civic unrest, even riots.
**********************************************************

Look at what Americans have quietly put up with for decades, and look how quickly the civic unrest and riots start up in SA countries when they are overwhelmed with floods of Undocumented Brazilians and Ecuadoreans.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (2NqXo)

332 Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

I've seen that clip, i think.

Granny be in jail for the rest of her life ...

Posted by: Adriane the True Crime Critic ... at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (AoK0a)

333 I know it's been said,
many times, many ways,
Ju-an Williams,
is a douche.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (UsCnO)

334 The father lives in California so that's not a guarantee.



Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 05:34 PM (m/vQu)

But
the crime took place in Iowa so CA law does not apply. But from what
people are saying Iowa has no death penalty. Since CA does have a death
penalty it should be able to occur there, but CA manages to stretch the
execution so long those sentenced always die before being executed. I
don't think CA has executed anybody in 20 or 30 years.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at August 21, 2018 05:48 PM (mpXpK)

Bring Cristihian to me. I have a death penalty.

Posted by: Archer at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (gmo/4)

335 Sure, we lose a few Americans every month to illegals, but do you really want to pay $100 for a head of lettuce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (Mouru)
...........

No but I'd chip in $100 for the head of this lechuga.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 05:55 PM (HgMAr)

336 Nood turncoat scumsucking bottom feeder.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (NWiLs)

337 310 Sure, we lose a few Americans every month to illegals, but do you really want to pay $100 for a head of lettuce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (Mouru)


I think you need to provide a chart graphing the relationship between the price of lettuce against the number of raped/killed Americans.

How else can we make an informed decision about this vital question?

*spits*

Posted by: Ersatz at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (44PTs)

338 315 smaller towns ... for their chicken plants or whatever, like to get that cheap illegal labor, and the town ends up dealing with the problems ... but e-verify would be so easy, so who is bribing whom to get these funds. Is that the way to save rural america ... import the third world and collect the federal welfare $$$. The sanctuary cities think it works for them ...

traitors, evil people in DC yeah, but right in our own back yards, we get sold out. Little cabals, have their friends, get their favored contracts, circle of lawyer friends in the guild ... either we restore America, or we all join the most powerful gangs we can find and show no mercy.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (bT8Z4)

Meatpacking and stock yards have been absolute shit shows wherever they've been.

Why do you think Chicago is a fucking mess? Meatpacking industry.

We've got vibrancy here too because stockyards and meatpacking way way back. Those things are gone but the problems remain.

They've always funneled in the absolute dregs to pinch those pennies. Upton Sinclair wasn't making up a lot of that stuff.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (4ErVI)

339 I wonder if that fuck Paul Ryan is feeling about guilty...

Posted by: Fed up at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (nzKWW)

340 Our Country is Screwed, I and others (some of them with good current access) have been pushing a variation of your idea since the inauguration.


Sit-downs with a few of the top perp sectors, the largest operators, preferrably publicly-held companies. With soft plush ultimatum delivered - we'll help you transition to legal labor, but transition you will, and fast. Or be raided and shut down, and prosecuted. Nobody has yet received even a half-serious response as to why some version of this is not done. DHS and DOJ lack will, to a degree, even in this admin., but much more than that they lack strategic smarts. Very plodding approach.


It's potentially disastrous, because as we've seen the legal, common sense, wildly politically popular/dominant position on these matters makes literally zero difference to how things are done, outside the Trump administration. There is near total Ruling Class unanimity on absolute lawlessness in borders and immigration, it's unlike any other policy area. This is a window of opportunity to combat that, but windows close.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (QDnY+)

341 324
Actually, the Trump administration through ICE and the DOJ, made several
mass arrests of landscaping companies in Northwestern Ohio this spring
who were hiring numbers of illegals.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (YbmG/)

When are they going to raid the landscaping companies in FL?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (jxbfJ)

342 Illegal claims he "tried to run alongside Mollie" and she told

him to go away or something, and then he "blacked out" and remembers he

dumped her body.



Has the left started saying she deserved to die because she was a xenophobic white supremacist hatin' on the brown man yet? Because you know they will, the twisted fucks.


Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (yzxic)

343 >>Of all the cable channels, FOX can be counted on to not let this die. Jerry will get his say, no worries!




Won't hold my breath waiting for Ana Navarro to comment.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (W+vEI)

344 This guy's claim that he blacked out and can't remember murdering the girl is the same as the whole of Washington swamp waking up and finding they've almost destroyed America. How did that happen?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 05:57 PM (KN1xl)

345 Say, wasn't there supposed to be a nationwide prisoner protest today?

How'd that go, I wonder...

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (W+vEI)

346 Attractive women shouldn't jog alone. It's a shame but that's the world we live in. It can happen in rural areas and in city areas. I just googled about the NY jogger that got murdered. Looks like they have a suspect.

I'm praying for the dad and boyfriend. You want to rewind time, protect, kill the murderer. But you can't.

Posted by: goodluckduck at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (rwaEp)

347
It's never too late to hang yourself in your cell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:53 PM (Mouru)



Or escape to Ft Marcy Park and shoot yourself in the back of the head. Twice.

Posted by: zombie Vince Foster at August 21, 2018 05:58 PM (UsCnO)

348 How can a blackout be a defense? I find the idea of someone murdering in a blackout state because that person could, by definition, never be trusted in public.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (eAMlh)

349 I think I may even surprise myself with what I would do to this POS with a wood clamp, some lighter fluid and a match, and a curling iron.

Adding sins to my confession list as I type.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 06:00 PM (9rIkM)

350 Beats the "you mean with a cloth" defense.

Posted by: jd at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (JX1fv)

351 348 How can a blackout be a defense? I find the idea of someone murdering in a blackout state because that person could, by definition, never be trusted in public.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 05:59 PM (eAMlh)


It's a brown blackout. Double color, like a double negative. Freedom!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (UsCnO)

352 Jerk him to Jesus, then deport his remains.

Posted by: FaCubeItches at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (rznWS)

353 Islam is the real defense, there is no crime against non Muslims that isn't covered by the Koran

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:01 PM (lxZ71)

354 Fellow dads with daughters who've beat me to it: With you. Well said.

I cannot imagine the pain this woman's family are going through. I feel awful for her boyfriend who was out there with the dad, pleading for her safe return.

I don't like to go down the mental road of what I would do if this were someone I'm close to. I don't like to think what cruelty I might be capable of.

Suffice to say - Roy mentioned Clyde Shelton - I always thought Law Abiding Citizen would be a much better movie if he'd done what he did to the two murderers, then tricked the police and prosecutor into a fatal error, ending up free as a bird and consoling the DA: Sorry, Nick - win some, lose some, right?

Posted by: JPS at August 21, 2018 06:02 PM (jocHR)

355 She
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanya_S._Chutkan
Just let Awan walk away
gellerreport - muslim slymaster escapes jailtime

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2018 06:03 PM (lxZ71)

356 Actually, the Trump administration through ICE and the DOJ, made several

mass arrests of landscaping companies in Northwestern Ohio this spring

who were hiring numbers of illegals.

Freshmark/Sugardale in NE Ohio was raided a month or two by ICE and 80% of their workforce arrested for immigration violations.

Still, we could do much more.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 21, 2018 06:04 PM (9rIkM)

357

Meanwhile...

U.S. inmates start national prison strike to protest 'modern-day slavery'

https://tinyurl.com/ya9hramc

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 21, 2018 06:07 PM (IqV8l)

358 do you really want to pay $100 for a head of lettuce?



Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 05:52 PM (Mouru
I'm okay with giving up lettuce. Not like they make beer out of it, eh?

Posted by: Peaches at August 21, 2018 06:08 PM (14URa)

359 "Meanwhile...

U.S. inmates start national prison strike to protest 'modern-day slavery' "

Simple solution.

Effective immediately....end all Prisoner work programs.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2018 06:09 PM (wldC6)

360 to rework Obama a little "we need a news network, just as powerful, just as well funded as the American MFM/DNC/FBI cabal of narrative PsyOP propagandists". (Obama said we need an internal force as powerful and as well funded as our military ...wtf was that?)

Instead we have the SocialMedia as the new branch of the GlobalGovernance PsyOp Army ... they will shut down free speech, deplatform "conservatives", and arrange searches so the first three pages only refer to approved FakeNews articles. e.g. ... look up "global warming" and three pages will show fake science, and denounce the evil deniers, and proclaim all science agrees ... real science will be tagged as "for adults only, highly doubtful, not approved as science".

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 06:10 PM (bT8Z4)

361 Remember when the MSM got all outrageously outraged when Trump said that Mexico was sending rapists and murderers across our southern border?

What a raaaaaaacist!!!

Posted by: Barky Obama at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (fqUgw)

362 The democrats and the open borders idiots have blood on their hands the blood of a innocent and frankly they should all be arrested for aiding and abetting a felon in the commision of a crime hang this scum and give them life in prison

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at August 21, 2018 06:11 PM (wGqjj)

363 Every resident, every official of every sanctuary city is equally guilty.

Posted by: Lewis Bowlby at August 21, 2018 06:12 PM (Lxxwf)

364 He'll still be voting in the mid-terms though, right? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Billy J at August 21, 2018 06:13 PM (14URa)

365 As a minor distraction from all this misery, I'm listening to Jimmy Soul - "If You Want to be Happy for the Rest of Your Life..."

Posted by: Skookumchuk at August 21, 2018 06:14 PM (CeJUf)

366 "Actually, the Trump administration through ICE and the DOJ, made several
mass arrests of landscaping companies in Northwestern Ohio this spring
who were hiring numbers of illegals.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 21, 2018 05:54 PM (YbmG/)

When are they going to raid the landscaping companies in FL?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2018 05:56 PM (jxbfJ)"

---------

How about arresting owners of businesses who employ the illegals? They are just as guilty for these murders and other crimes by providing a reason and means for the criminals to stay.

What price their profits?

Posted by: Decaf at August 21, 2018 06:20 PM (KN1xl)

367 It's just this war and that son of a bitch, Johnson.

Posted by: C B Rivera at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (df+Zi)

368 126 Take this guy and feed him to the president of Mexico when he next visits.


THIS

It reminded me of my history of the Battle of Kleidon. The Byzintine army defeated the Bulgars and divided the 15,000 captured men into groups of 100.

I will let you look up the rest but it involves some things the UN would not approve.

Posted by: MSM at August 21, 2018 06:21 PM (nonGu)

369 I suspect millions like me would like to help him "black out" again----slowly, very painfully, and forever---for what he did.

Especially the slowly and very painfully part.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 21, 2018 06:22 PM (611Lm)

370 I wish the killer to be found guilty and then executed.

We have a meat packer here, employing who knows how many illegals. West central IL

I fantasize about writing an expose

Posted by: Booknlass at August 21, 2018 06:29 PM (tYnQU)

371 RUBICON.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at August 21, 2018 06:39 PM (mIJ9W)

372
"Since when do Democrats believe in open borders?" argues some lib.


From 1965 to this second?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:44 PM (oVJmc)

373 He thought she dropped a rag soaked in chloroform and was just trying to return it.

Posted by: American at August 21, 2018 06:45 PM (o9TX1)

374

U.S. inmates start national prison strike to protest 'modern-day slavery' "


13th Amendment:

"

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]"

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2018 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

375 My Texas police cousins joke: How did your prisoner get so many bruises. He fell down the stairs. A lot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2018 06:53 PM (hyuyC)

376 needs to change to: tried to run alongside of when she put 10 rounds into his chest.

Posted by: TANJ at August 21, 2018 07:09 PM (Wa5hI)

377 Trump speaking now live at the rally!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XY_isOiTaw

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 07:15 PM (hvf9s)

378
Sure, we lose a few Americans every month to illegals, but do you really want to pay $100 for a head of lettuce?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero

Robots!

Posted by: Jean at August 21, 2018 07:32 PM (9xU67)

379 Death is too good for that scum. Torture the scum then send tis body to Mexico with a 10MUSD bill to the Mexican government. Can't imagine the pain her parents must have suffered through. Build the damn wall!

Posted by: I'm_Not_Bob at August 21, 2018 08:03 PM (pHtot)

380 When is that poor SWEETHEART going to be released, and when will every member of Mollie Tibbets' family be arrested and executed for making this poor SWEETHEART do what he did (if only because Miss Tibbets can't be arrested and executed herself)?

Remember: according to our own government, U.S. citizens are nothing but shit, and all others have priority and greater rights. For as Brecht reminds us, "dissolve the people and elect another."

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at August 21, 2018 08:54 PM (clV37)

381
While building the Wall, each section/piece should have a mural/photo of a murdered victim of an illegal immigrant.

Line'em up to show the cost these animals have inflicted on the American people.

Then in the ceremony to christen it, you make it a memorial to all the murdered Americans of illegals and maybe even legals.

Never again.

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 21, 2018 09:41 PM (IDzNv)

April Dumb Ryan: Omarosa Pushed Her "Trump Said the N-Word" Lie to... Distract From Aretha Franklin's Declining Health
Update on Manafort: Guilty on 8 Counts, Mistrial on Ten

Now, you might be wondering why on earth April Dumb Ryan wouldn't just say "OMAROSA'S TELLING THE TRUTH, TRUMP'S A RACIST, WHOO-HOO!"

Well, it's because Ryan and Omarosa had Mad Beef earlier. It's not because Ryan has somehow become an objective reporter. No, this stance isn't based on any kind of dispassionate analysis about the lack of evidence for and conflicting stories behind Omarosa's charge; it's because Ryan and Omarosa have had Queen Bee bitch-fights in the White House.

This is embarrassing even for April Dumb Ryan. She's not just stupid and incapable of logical thought, she's actually insane.

White House correspondent April Ryan claimed Tuesday that ousted West Wing aide Omarosa Manigault Newsman purposely pushed a story in early August that President Trump used the N-word because she wanted to get revenge on Aretha Franklin for an old fight by distracting the public from the singer's declining health.

"She did it because Aretha Franklin didn't want her at her birthday party," Ryan told the Hollywood Reporter. "That's how vindictive Omarosa is."

Tell me more, Journalist. I believe everything you say. Why shouldn't I? You're obviously very smart with a good bead on things.

Manafort Update: The jury got the media's message and decided to opt for "not being doxed."

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:14 PM




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1 Good grief.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 04:12 PM (I16G8)

2 Pulitzer.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:13 PM (NLLmE)

3 Idiocracy is real.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:13 PM (AM1GF)

4 Is the jury ready?

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 04:13 PM (MAstk)

5 Delivered by Howitzer.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (NLLmE)

6 Need to go see who Ryan is...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (uPlWr)

7 Whomever said April Ryan looks like Miss Piggy is fundamentally correct.

Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (XOi3t)

8
All we need is a fat Shrek-looking propagandist bloviating through her hole about Odoroso.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (G4W16)

9 Good heavens. She has no idea how stupid she sounds, does she?

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (a0IVu)

10 Well, at least she didn't say it was to distract from the fact that aliens landed on the White House Lawn.
April Ryan is like Helen Thomas on crack.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (VpIIl)

11 Why does it seem like every one of the press is just playing Mean Girls all the time?

Posted by: Flyguy at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (3sOO0)

12 7 Whomever said April Ryan looks like Miss Piggy is fundamentally correct.
Posted by: Mister Christopher (in Atlanta!) at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (XOi3t)


Cross between Shrek and Harriet Hippo from Nu Zoo Review.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (G4W16)

13
R-E-S-P-I-C-T

Ureththra Franklin is a front hole for me.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (8XRCm)

14 10 Well, at least she didn't say it was to distract from the fact that aliens landed on the White House Lawn.
April Ryan is like Helen Thomas on crack.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (VpIIl)


Helen Thomas' crack? What hole is that?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (G4W16)

15 3 Idiocracy is real.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:13 PM (AM1GF)



It's like watching a oil tanker wreck in slow motion.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (NLLmE)

16 Is April Ryan from Cleveland?

And does she steam?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (UsCnO)

17 This one is so crazy it is hard to follow.

Posted by: bear with assymetrical balls at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (vnU/k)

18 On what planet does that even make sense?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (JUOKG)

19 wut?

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (RD7QR)

20 I think April may have just pulled this story out of her backhole.

Posted by: huerfano at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (2OiAb)

21 April Ryan is a real dummy. She started the whole #piegate garbage with Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (q+HNC)

22 April Ryan is just trying to distract everyone from talking about her letting an old man shoot goo in her front hole.

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (nFwvY)

23 13
R-E-S-P-I-C-T

Ureththra Franklin is a front hole for me.
Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (8XRCm)


"Pfft!"

- - Clitoris Bleached, man

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (G4W16)

24 You did not invite me to your birthday party????I'm going to get you!!!!!
*they are worse than six year olds*

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (a0IVu)

25 Aaaaaaaaaaapril, dumb she will.

Posted by: Simon and Garfunkle at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (+y/Ru)

26 The Constitution's protections of a free press does not mean we need to tolerate Pravda, FFS.

Posted by: LGoPs at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (iGktu)

27

lol, should have known. CNN

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (uPlWr)

28 "That's how vindictive Omarosa is."

So, she might make up stories to tarnish her former boss?

Posted by: pookysgirl at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (XKZwp)

29 Global Warming killed Aretha.

Why can't you people see it?

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (g5KCb)

30 an wreck

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (NLLmE)

31 She's got nothing--between her ears.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (r9UYA)

32

Is this less believable than the theory that deporting a Nazi war criminal was a scam to make ICE look good and respectable?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (G4W16)

33 The front hole's connected to the...back hole.

Posted by: April Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (vtcmf)

34 And Global Warming, too!

Posted by: Steve E. Wonder at August 21, 2018 04:17 PM (IqV8l)

35 This is one of those stories where everyone involved is so batshit krazeee (except for Arethra) that I'm willing to believe that any part of it, or all of it, or none of it, may be true.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (k1TUh)

36 Omarosa and Trump - running a classic 'heel vs face' gambit.

https://youtu.be/eFeykNZh8Kc

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (fA1SL)

37 "She did it because Aretha Franklin didn't want her at her birthday party," Ryan told the Hollywood Reporter. "That's how vindictive Omarosa is."

This makes absolutely no sense. To get revenge on you, I'll distract the world from the news that you're dying???

The implication is that Aretha Franklin planned to die as some sort of media stunt to get publicity and sympathy.

And then I went "Oooohhhhh! OF COURSE!" -- since Omarosa is severely mentally ill and is physically addicted to being the center of attention -- what we used to call an "hysteric" or "attention whore" -- she thinks that EVERYBODY else in the world is also a mentally ill attention whore. And that the only reason anybody does anything is to make all eyes turn toward them -- because that's what Omarosa herself does.

It all makes sense now.

Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (c+2jX)

38 26 The Constitution's protections of a free press does not mean we need to tolerate Pravda, FFS.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 21, 2018 04:16 PM (iGktu)


We do have laws on libel and slander.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (G4W16)

39 Mean Girls - the middle aged black version

Posted by: GregV61 at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (FLpne)

40 Omarosa had Mitt Romney stare at Aretha with his cancer beam eyes.
AprilRyan

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (mCMQ5)

41 I bet April Ryan would still crush Wolfe Blitzer on Celebrity Jeopardy.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (g5KCb)

42 >>29
Global Warming killed Aretha.



Why can't you people see it?

Posted by: Stevie Wonder

Hey Stevie! How many fingers do I have up?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (r9UYA)

43 oops, wrong media whore. ain't no one wanting that front hole.

Posted by: x at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (nFwvY)

44 All we need is a fat Shrek-looking propagandist bloviating through her hole about Odoroso.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM


You're referring to the Upper Front Hole, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2018 04:19 PM (ctuyM)

45 Wait...what? Rofl

Didn't Omarosa write this book before Franklin died? A loonnggg time before. Also, Omarosa brought this up weeks before Franklin's death.

This is hilarious.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 04:19 PM (Nt/TS)

46 April Ryan is like Helen Thomas on crack.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (VpIIl)

But can she Joooz hate like Helen?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 04:19 PM (JFO2v)

47 This isn't very ladylike.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (fJD+N)

48 Our Betters! Everybody, give them a round of applause.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (sFofr)

49 April Ryan is like Helen Thomas on crack.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (VpIIl)


The "new" breed of journalist, rising above the esteemed career of Helen Thomas, April Ryan is setting new standards of quality, in-depth reporting in the Helen Thomas mold.


Wait, what did you put in my drink?.............. the walls are moving!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (UsCnO)

50 How in the fuck does this woman have a job?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (6Ll1u)

51 Well, it's because Ryan and Omarosa had Mad Beef earlier.
.............

Where Mad Beef = front hole party.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (HgMAr)

52 Also, Omarosa brought this up weeks before Franklin's death.

This is hilarious.
Posted by: platypus

She Killed Aretha!

Posted by: Bruce at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (8ikIW)

53 46 April Ryan is like Helen Thomas on crack.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (VpIIl)



That's raciss.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (NLLmE)

54 So Omarosa does things to get back at people she doesn't like? Hmmmm.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (lwiT4)

55 I bet April Ryan would still crush Wolfe Blitzer on Celebrity Jeopardy.
Posted by: garrett


Especially if she fell from a scaffold.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (fJD+N)

56 April Ryan? apparently, life has been hard on her after the teenage mutant ninja turtles went off the air...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (8D42x)

57 All we need is a fat Shrek-looking propagandist bloviating through her hole about Odoroso.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM

-----

Well.

That it narrows it down to Rosi Odonnel or Marg Cho.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (8XRCm)

58 Hey Stevie! How many fingers do I have up?

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (r9UYA)

Up my back hole? wiggle em please and Ill tell you

Posted by: lil blind stevie at August 21, 2018 04:21 PM (JFO2v)

59 *SQUIRREL*!!!

Posted by: April Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:21 PM (UsCnO)

60 Still, no.

Posted by: Sumdumchief at August 21, 2018 04:21 PM (O3VGU)

61 Is journalist a pejorative now? I like it.

Journalist.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:21 PM (pUDQf)

62 I can't even.... a "beef" with Aretha?

In other weird news, Omarosa was dating Michael Clark Duncan when he died and there were rumblings about that...?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 04:21 PM (W+vEI)

63 I put a spell on you!

Posted by: Obamarosa at August 21, 2018 04:21 PM (vtcmf)

64 April Ryan? apparently, life has been hard on her after the teenage mutant ninja turtles went off the air...
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (8D42x)

----

*cough-o'neal-cough*

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (8XRCm)

65 It's squirrels all the way down.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (Boy/L)

66 I'd also like to watch April Ryan explain the rules of Connect 4 to Maxine Waters.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (g5KCb)

67 >>>7 Whomever said April Ryan looks like Miss Piggy is fundamentally correct.

Incorrect. Miss Piggy is chubby, whereas Ryan is just a sack of drooping fat.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (PA9oZ)

68 It's like watching a oil tanker wreck in slow motion.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (NLLmE)

...

but oil tankers are already sl.....ooooooohhhhhh.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (yL25O)

69 Unanimous decision on 8 counts, hung on 10 for Manafort.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (/tuJf)

70 I love crazy blue on blue action exposing just how stupid they all are.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (G0vdT)

71 Jesus, such stupidity. And these are the people we really on to give us the facts....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (y8Foj)

72 What a stupid front-hole.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (PA9oZ)

73 Imagine working around this person and having to act like she's a credible person.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (4ErVI)

74 when room temperature IQs collide

Posted by: brak at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (VckGX)

75 Unanimous decision on 8 counts


which way?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (lwiT4)

76 Let's not point out Aretha's had cancer for 8 years, and her health has been declining that whole time.

However, it also shows how hated Omarosa is in the black community. April Ryan knew she was a safe target.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (Nt/TS)

77 O/T: 2nd note from jury given to judge at 4:11 ET. Content unknown.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (zncB8)

78 69 Unanimous decision on 8 counts, hung on 10 for Manafort.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (/tuJf)

Getting interesting.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (G0vdT)

79 54 So Omarosa does things to get back at people she doesn't like? Hmmmm.
Posted by: grammie winger


Good point!

"Omarosa is not the kind of person who would make up crazy shit to get revenge on Trump! No, not all, quite the opposite -- she's the kind of person who would make up crazy shit to get revenge on Aretha Franklin!

What kind of monster did you think Omarosa was, you hater?"

Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (c+2jX)

80 Unanimous decision on 8 counts.

----

Fucker.

You did that on porpose.


Unanimous WHICH FUCKING WAY!!??!!

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (8XRCm)

81 Unanimous decision on 8 counts


which way?
Posted by: grammie winger


Any hole, take your pick!

Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (fJD+N)

82 I tell ya. It's like watching a glacier collision.


In slow motion.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (NLLmE)

83 72 What a stupid front-hole.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (PA9oZ


Amen. Damn urethra!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (pUDQf)

84 And Alex Jones is crazy?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (6Ll1u)

85 So, an American legend is dying, so Omorosa decides to spout "Trump said NI**ER!!!!!!!!" to detract from said legend's health that everyone knew was declining anyway?

Makes a whole fuckload of sense......

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (Zz0t1)

86 Even Preet, who just luvs the Donald, says that this is a straight up plea deal with Cohen not related to Trump

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (7rpiB)

87 If she started channeling the court reporter from Idiocracy her coworkers would be astonished with her competence and dignity.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (sox4v)

88 >>which way?

Not announced yet. Just that they have reached a unanimous decision on 8 counts.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (/tuJf)

89 LMAO!!! Very. single. time. i dont think this place can get more innapopriate....we reach new heights.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (7CM5W)

90 April Connect 4 like in a row
Maxine fo fo impeach foddy fi foddy fi

Posted by: lil blind stevie at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (JFO2v)

91 >>>Unanimous WHICH FUCKING WAY!!??!!


not yet known.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (PA9oZ)

92 >>Unanimous decision on 8 counts

There is only One Count.

One.

Ah-ah-ah

Posted by: The Count at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (g5KCb)

93 Unanimous decision on 8 counts, hung on 10 for Manafort.


Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM


---

unanimous which way?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (JUOKG)

94 Jury hung on 10 counts

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (MAstk)

95 My God! It's full of tards!

Posted by: david bowman at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (N1ZXu)

96 81 Unanimous decision on 8 counts


which way?
Posted by: grammie winger
------

Nobody knows yet.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (G0vdT)

97 ">>7 Whomever said April Ryan looks like Miss Piggy is fundamentally correct.

Incorrect. Miss Piggy is chubby, whereas Ryan is just a sack of drooping fat.
Posted by: ace"


Right. Ana Navarro looks more like Miss Piggy. Even has the same nose.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (OD2ni)

98 No relation.

Except in dumbness.

Posted by: Paul Dumb Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (G4cUD)

99 >>>94 Jury hung

Do they have BROTHERS?!!?!

Posted by: Shep Smith the Hard News Man at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (PA9oZ)

100 Politico rates this half true, half insane

AoS fact checker (we need this) says ... an effervescent rotundness, with the insanity a bit too much on the nose.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (bT8Z4)

101 Well, at least she didn't say it was to distract from the fact that aliens landed on the White House Lawn.
April Ryan is like Helen Thomas on crack.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 21, 2018 04:14 PM (VpIIl)


Helen Thomas' crack? What hole is that?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:15 PM (G4W16)

sarlacc?

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (8D42x)

102 Two ignorant, deceitful women who give High School Mean Girls a bad name.

Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (oiNtH)

103 OT:

Oh, FFS! FaceDesk removed "President of the United States" from PDTs page.

https://tinyurl.com/ydh5u4fn

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (I16G8)

104 There is only One Count. "

Chocula!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (6qErC)

105 80 Unanimous decision on 8 counts.

----

Fucker.

You did that on porpose.


Unanimous WHICH FUCKING WAY!!??!!
Posted by: fixerupper


Apparently that detail hasn't been revealed yet!

Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2018 04:25 PM (c+2jX)

106 Any hole, take your pick!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at August 21, 2018 04:23 PM (fJD+N)

ear hole ok?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (JFO2v)

107 Unanimous decision on 8 counts



There is only One Count.



One.



Ah-ah-ah


Posted by: The Count at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM

---

Not so fast.......

Posted by: Count Chocula at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (JUOKG)

108 I'd like to have a Mad Beef with Ryan and Omarosa IYKWIM

Posted by: Nicky Minaj at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (HgMAr)

109 Gotta be Not Guilty.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (NLLmE)

110 Just makin' shit up here, boss!

Posted by: April Ryan, Cub Reporter at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (Mouru)

111 Eh, the words coming from April Ryan's top front hole are no less dumb than Omarosa's.

Especially where she claimed Trump told Trump Jr to have an affair, then when he did and it messed up his marriage got upset at his son. Also that Trump Jr is so desperate for Don's attention but Don just keeps calling him a loser. Or something. Don't worry I'm sure she has it all on tape!!!

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (hvf9s)

112 Unanimous decision on 8 counts


which way?
Posted by: grammie winger
------

Nobody knows yet.
Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (G0vdT)

-----


Da Fuq???


"We the jury AGREE on 8 counts. But we're not going to tell you guilty or innocent. We also cant decide on 10".



*** taps chin ***

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (8XRCm)

113 "Even Preet, who just luvs the Donald, says that this is a straight up plea deal with Cohen not related to Trump
Posted by: REDACTED"



NOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jennifer Rubin at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (OD2ni)

114 What's endless love?

Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles playing tennis

Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (7HtZB)

115 There is a 50% chance we will deploy our Doxing Unit to the scene of the Manafort trial.

Posted by: CNN at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (PA9oZ)

116 So hung on 10 counts means Mueller can re-try? Or not?

Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (a0IVu)

117 51 Well, it's because Ryan and Omarosa had Mad Beef earlier.
.............

Where Mad Beef = front hole party.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (HgMAr)

Mad Beef? Is that like Mad Cow? Beef flaps? Mad flaps? It's like we're in the Twilight Zone, only Rod Serling is a tranny hipster.

Posted by: joncelli, providing the traditional responses at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (RD7QR)

118 @ 66 --

Glad I wasn't taking a drink* when I read that.

* Of water, you jokers; I'm a teetotaler.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (OL1aE)

119 The rest of the story on the NASA intern post.

http://homerhickamblog.blogspot.com/2018/08/social-media.html

Posted by: Simon and Garfunkle at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (+y/Ru)

120 I prefer to call it the flour hole.

Posted by: April Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (vtcmf)

121 Has April ever made love to a forest?

http://tinyurl.com/ycqdyx8f

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (wldC6)

122 lol, drudge has headline

verdict for manafort on 8, no decision on 10

suckit mueller

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (MTjB1)

123 Omarosa and Trump - running a classic 'heel vs face' gambit.

https://youtu.be/eFeykNZh8Kc
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (fA1SL)


That dude's a clown......

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (Zz0t1)

124 117. 'Because 'Mad Cow Disease' was already taken. -Just the punchline

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (fA1SL)

125 Is April Ryan the twit who challenged Sara Sanders's pecan pie baking ability?
It's amazing to find someone who isn't smarter than Jim Acosta.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (nBr1j)

126 104 There is only One Count.

Demonet Count demoney

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (JFO2v)

127 >>>Mad Beef? Is that like Mad Cow? Beef flaps? Mad flaps? It's like we're in the Twilight Zone, only Rod Serling is a tranny hipster.

I assume you're kidding, but "beef" is the word the hep kids used (eight years ago) to mean "drama/conflict," and "mad" is just an intensifier for that.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (PA9oZ)

128 They brought in Mannafort to negotiate the terms of his upcoming reality show.


Mueller gets the producer money, Rosenstein is writing the screenplay.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (UsCnO)

129 April Ryan? apparently, life has been hard on her after the teenage mutant ninja turtles went off the air...
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:20 PM (8D42x)

----

*cough-o'neal-cough*

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:22 PM (8XRCm)

well, she did neal quite a bit

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (8D42x)

130 123.
Styx?
How dare you defame the Spoon Clank?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (fA1SL)

131 Mad Beef is when April is on top in scissors position.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (HgMAr)

132 This story needs more front holes.

Posted by: wooga at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (tvzmd)

133 >>verdict for manafort on 8, no decision on 10




And now he sues for his incarceration.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (g5KCb)

134 Mad beef was that brain disease they had in the UK a while back.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (mCMQ5)

135 April Ryan is also the one who accused Sarah Sanders of threatening her when, after Ryan repeatedly mischaracterized Sanders's' behavior in a question, Sanders replied "You don't know me." Because everyone knows those are fighting words!



Journalist, or high school mean girl?
Excellent hire, CNN! She is the perfect partner for Jim "look at me!" Acosta.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (W+vEI)

136 131 Mad Beef is when April is on top in scissors position.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (HgMAr)

Go on...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (bcbK8)

137 I know nothing about these sorts of things, but doesn't it seem likely if 10 counts there was a hung jury, the rest of the 8 unanimous would be "not guilty"?

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (sJpRh)

138 120 I prefer to call it the flour hole.
Posted by: April Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (vtcmf)

I think you meant damp flour hole

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (JFO2v)

139 There is only One Count.

One.

Ah-ah-ah
Posted by: The Count at August 21, 2018 04:24 PM (g5KCb)


I've been saying for years, if they want kids interested in baseball again, every time there's a "full count," on a TV broadcast, they need to have you flying up on the screen saying "FULL COUNT!!!! Ah Ha HA!!!

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)

140 Not Guilty
Not Guilty
Not Guilty
Not Guilty
Not Guilty
Not Guilty
Not Guilty
Not Guilty
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue
No Clue

*burrrrp*

Posted by: The Manafort Jurdy at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (Mouru)

141 I saw Mad Beef open for The Queefs at the Paladium in 1993.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (PA9oZ)

142 37 "She did it because Aretha Franklin didn't want her at her birthday party," Ryan told the Hollywood Reporter. "That's how vindictive Omarosa is."

This makes absolutely no sense. To get revenge on you, I'll distract the world from the news that you're dying???

The implication is that Aretha Franklin planned to die as some sort of media stunt to get publicity and sympathy.

And then I went "Oooohhhhh! OF COURSE!" -- since Omarosa is severely mentally ill and is physically addicted to being the center of attention -- what we used to call an "hysteric" or "attention whore" -- she thinks that EVERYBODY else in the world is also a mentally ill attention whore. And that the only reason anybody does anything is to make all eyes turn toward them -- because that's what Omarosa herself does.

It all makes sense now.
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2018 04:18 PM (c+2jX)



"I know, I know. But I can only do it once!"

- - Daffy Duck exploding on stage

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (G4W16)

143 DERP My name is April, and my favorite color is clear DUH *drools*

Posted by: Dimwitted Reporter Who's Better Than You at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (AzW6q)

144 >> I prefer to call it the flour hole.


Bill calls it the Dust Hole...

Hic!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (g5KCb)

145 Manafort verdict on 8 counts out of 18. Hung jury on 10 counts.

Posted by: Nothing is Going to Happen at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (w2uMq)

146 133 >>verdict for manafort on 8, no decision on 10




And now he sues for his incarceration.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:28 PM (g5KCb)


Is that another one of those ambiguous headlines zombie was talking about?

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (NLLmE)

147 anyway, before my brain tries to squeeze out my left ear and run away from all this stupid, here is a link to the origins of life on Earth: https://t.co/c5zCacbr9p

The genetic clock of all us descendants of the first life form (some sort of archaeum) rolls back about to 4.1 billion years ago. This precedes the Late Heavy Bombardment of meteors which, it had been thought, would have melted the Earth's surface or near enough, making life impossible.

So maybe it was possible for a life form (presumed) even dumber than Omarosa and April to survive that.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (N1ZXu)

148 121 Has April ever made love to a forest?

http://tinyurl.com/ycqdyx8f
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (wldC6)


"Say, WHAT?!"

- - Forest Whitaker

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (G4W16)

149 122 lol, drudge has headline

verdict for manafort on 8, no decision on 10

suckit mueller

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (MTjB1)


you'd better NOT be MESSIN' with ME.

Posted by: average Trump supporter at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (UsCnO)

150 April O'Neill > April Ryan

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (hvf9s)

151 Does Columbia actually teach journalism any more or does everyone just sit around and bitch about each other's choice of gender pronouns?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (pUDQf)

152 >>>137 I know nothing about these sorts of things, but doesn't it seem likely if 10 counts there was a hung jury, the rest of the 8 unanimous would be "not guilty"?

yeah I don't know. People say the hidden bank account charges might be easier to prove/harder to explain away, so they might have had an easy time with those.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (PA9oZ)

153 It's amazing to find someone who isn't smarter than Jim Acosta.
Posted by: Northernlurker, b

In the White House press pool? Like shooting elephants in a barrel.

Posted by: Clay, unimpressed with your wokeness at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (sox4v)

154 What is this talk of Styx?!?!?!

Worst band ever.

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

155 There are three stacks of Omarosa's book at my local Costco. Is Costco required to display these worthless political books?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (nBr1j)

156 120 I prefer to call it the flour hole.
Posted by: April Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (vtcmf)

I think you meant damp flour hole
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (JFO2v)


Doesn't anyone watch Friends? It's "Flower".

Posted by: Monica Gellar at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (Nt/TS)

157 137 I know nothing about these sorts of things, but doesn't it seem likely if 10 counts there was a hung jury, the rest of the 8 unanimous would be "not guilty"?

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (sJpRh)

...

I also know nothing about these things, but I would guess that's a dangerous assumption.

Posted by: TexasDan at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (yL25O)

158 April O'Neill > April Ryan
Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (hvf9s)

----

April ONeill is also a porn star.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

159 I saw Mad Beef open for The Queefs at the Paladium in 1993.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (PA9oZ)


The Queefs were a very under appreciated band......

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (Zz0t1)

160 So maybe it was possible for a life form (presumed) even dumber than Omarosa and April to survive that.

Are we SURE they're carbon-based life forms? Surely there are dumber elements.

Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (T6t7i)

161 137 I know nothing about these sorts of things, but doesn't it seem likely if 10 counts there was a hung jury, the rest of the 8 unanimous would be "not guilty"?

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 04:29 PM (sJpRh)



That's what I'm thinking. Especially with what a shitty farce this obviously is.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (NLLmE)

162 122 lol, drudge has headline

verdict for manafort on 8, no decision on 10

suckit mueller

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (MTjB1)





This is too good to be true.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (Mouru)

163 154 What is this talk of Styx?!?!?!

Worst band ever.
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)


Agree. Hated Dennis DeYoung's voice.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (G4W16)

164 It actually makes more sense than 99 percent of what passes for "News!" these days.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (BfOXk)

165 This is like the Hatfields versus the McCoys, except both sides are potatoes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (0ogQG)

166 Worst band ever.
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

-----

No you've just gone too far.

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (8XRCm)

167 154 What is this talk of Styx?!?!?!

Worst band ever.
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

Incorrect.

That would be "Jesus Jones"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (bcbK8)

168 Well Urethea is still dead? Am I right?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (2LelM)

169 That Drudge headline is misleading and it got me -- when he says 8 verdicts FOR Manafort, he does not mean 8 verdicts "in Manafort's favor." he means 8 verdicts REGARDING manafort.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (PA9oZ)

170 You could put a flower in it but it would itch.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (Mouru)

171 >>>That would be "Jesus Jones"


I like their one song.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (PA9oZ)

172 I know nothing about these sorts of things, but doesn't it seem likely if 10 counts there was a hung jury, the rest of the 8 unanimous would be "not guilty"?
Posted by: Jolly Roger

That's what I'm thinking. Especially with what a shitty farce this obviously is.
Posted by: eleven


It's a tax.

Posted by: Chief Turncoat Roberts at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (AM1GF)

173 167 154 What is this talk of Styx?!?!?!

Worst band ever.
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

Incorrect.

That would be "Jesus Jones"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (bcbK


"I know, right?!

- - The DeFranco Family (Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (G4W16)

174 The Zombie apocalypse will definitely no start in the press pool, that's for sure. No brains to be found there.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (nBr1j)

175 122 lol, drudge has headline

verdict for manafort on 8, no decision on 10

suckit mueller

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (MTjB1)




This is too good to be true.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August




you want it to be true, not simply to stick it to mueller but to get Trump's reaction.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (MTjB1)

176 Styx has Tommy Shaw of 'girls with guns' fame, as well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (bcbK8)

177 Intentionally misleading headline from Drudge?
Verdict FOR Manafort on 8 counts....

Makes it sound like "not guilty", but it hasn't been determined what those verdicts are.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (y8Foj)

178 I'm thinking the charges are "guilty".

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (Nt/TS)

179 151
Does Columbia actually teach journalism any more or does everyone just
sit around and bitch about each other's choice of gender pronouns?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (pUDQf)


That is journalism.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (PFd3d)

180 Blue Oyster Cult>>>>>>>>>>>Styx

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (mCMQ5)

181 The fact that you can get rung of on 18 fucking counts is a disgrace in itself.


Shakespeare's famous line: "kill all the lawyers (as a good start" is really mistranslated.


What is actually meant was "kill all the prosecutors..."

Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (q+HNC)

182 I prefer to call it the flour hole.

Posted by: April Ryan at August 21, 2018 04:27 PM (vtcmf)
............

We're gonna need more flour.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (HgMAr)

183 Entering the dummies of the world contest, Stevie Wonder blames global warming for Aretha's cancer.

So, the evil Trump didn't sign up for the Paris Accords so he must be responsible right? Even though Aretha was diagnosed prior to Trump taking office.

Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (oiNtH)

184 >>I like their one song.


'Right Here, Right Now' ?

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (g5KCb)

185 151 Does Columbia actually teach journalism any more or does everyone just sit around and bitch about each other's choice of gender pronouns?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (pUDQf)


and laugh at Americans in flyover country.


it's a balanced education.

Posted by: average Trump supporter at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (UsCnO)

186 That Drudge headline is misleading and it got me -- when he says 8 verdicts FOR Manafort, he does not mean 8 verdicts "in Manafort's favor." he means 8 verdicts REGARDING manafort.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (PA9oZ)



Drudge is a dick. Can't he even compose a proper screaming headline?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (Mouru)

187 171 >>>That would be "Jesus Jones"


I like their one song.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (PA9oZ)


Me too. But the theme of the tune was utterly wrong, vis a vis the end of history, or some such.

But, yeah. Catchy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (G4W16)

188
There is only One Count.
One.
Ah-ah-ah
Posted by: The Count


I see four Counts.

Posted by: Jean Luc Picard at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (IqV8l)

189 >>> What's endless love? Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles playing tennis Posted by: josephistan at August 21, 2018 04:26 PM (7HtZB)

Ohhhh, I am soooo saving that joke to tell a friend later! You are lucky my coworker is out today so I could literally LOL.

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (hvf9s)

190 And speaking of dumb, Harvard Law's own Lawrence Tribe explains why Kavanaugh's views on baseball disqualify him from the bench.

https://bit.ly/2BxRYKP

Posted by: Simon and Garfunkle at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (+y/Ru)

191 Hard to believe there wouldn't be at least three or four (or eight) Alexandria moonbats who voted guilty on all counts and wouldn't budge because Resistance. So the only way you get a verdict on any count is Guilty.

Posted by: Ex-Alexandrian at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (XcgmW)

192 >>>The Queefs were a very under appreciated band......

The Queefs scored a top 100 College Radio hit with "Forward Facing Fart."

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (PA9oZ)

193 We don't know if it's guilty or not guilty yet...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (y8Foj)

194 Worst band ever. NOPE TURDvana

Posted by: Nothing is Going to Happen at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (y3aQB)

195 Guilty of tax evasion

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (4ErVI)

196 @J.J. Sefton

JJ, if there's a special award for obscure 70's bands...you earned it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (bcbK8)

197 @ 147 --

And, thus, Maxine Waters.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (OL1aE)

198 Styx? Everybody knows the worst band ever was The Troggs.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (lwiT4)

199 there's a catheter for every hole

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (d7Ww2)

200 Two. Two front holes!





Ah-ah. Ah.

Posted by: The Count at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (89T5c)

201 Stevie Wonder sees everything

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (6Ll1u)

202 194 Worst band ever. NOPE TURDvana
Posted by: Nothing is Going to Happen at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (y3aQB)


Front-Hole Sun?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (G4W16)

203 That Drudge headline is misleading and it got me -- when he says 8 verdicts FOR Manafort, he does not mean 8 verdicts "in Manafort's favor." he means 8 verdicts REGARDING manafort.
Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (PA9oZ)

-----------

This is Drudge's phone in schtick these days. Clickbait.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (I16G8)

204 Guilty of filing fake tax returns 5 counts.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (/tuJf)

205 That would be "Jesus Jones"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:32 PM (bcbK


No no no. ....I would put a vote in for "The Digable Planets"

Every song is "Ba dadadadada dum.....Ba dadadada dum....."

They opened for Sade once (took my mom). We wanted to jump from the rafters before they were done.....

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (Zz0t1)

206 Judge is going to interview jury individually. If they feel they can't come to a unanimous vote, he's going to declare a mistrial on the 10 counts, read the verdict on the 8.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (G0vdT)

207 We can make a good guess as to which counts are decided, because there were 2 groups of 4 counts each, which is the only way I see they would get to 8. 4 of them involved the charges of Bank Fraud from the Federal Savings Bank, and 4 others involved Failure to Report Foreign Bank Accounts.

That would make the 10 undecided counts include 5 for filing false tax returns, 2 involving a loan from the Bank of California, and 3 involving a loan from Citizens Bank.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (k1TUh)

208 What is this talk of Styx?!?!?!

Worst band ever.
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)



You've been sniffing too much pine.

Posted by: Weasel Dog at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (Nt/TS)

209 This is like the Hatfields versus the McCoys, except both sides are potatoes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 21, 2018 04:31 PM (0ogQG)

I'm not seeing how Amy Schumer fits into that...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (8D42x)

210 Queef has been renamed Front Hole Poof

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (mCMQ5)

211 180 Blue Oyster Cult>>>>>>>>>>>Styx
Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:33 PM (mCMQ5)
-------
Saw BOC with Black Sabbath in the early 80s. Black and Blue Tour.

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (MVjcR)

212 >>>Me too. But the theme of the tune was utterly wrong, vis a vis the end of history, or some such.


It felt that way AT THE MOMENT. I think a pop song only has to be "right" in the moment. They're not even the first draft of history, they're the first draft of fleeting emotion.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (PA9oZ)

213 Guilty on two counts of bank fraud, one count of failure to file something something

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (4ErVI)

214 Just checking...DC's Newseum still not selling "Fake News" t-shirts, right? Because it insults journalists dignity and seriousness or something.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (W+vEI)

215 Oh to be a Sith Lord sometimes instead of just a misunderstood android neko-grrl with buggy programming.

Force choke so many.... Nyah.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (YEriz)

216 196 @J.J. Sefton

JJ, if there's a special award for obscure 70's bands...you earned it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (bcbK


I was an obscure 60s and 70s child, and so...

Plus music director and morning drive DJ for Brooklyn College Radio.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (G4W16)

217 >>>210 Queef has been renamed Front Hole Poof


Queef broke up to form two successor bands, The Front and Hole.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (PA9oZ)

218 Guilty of 5 counts of filing false tax return.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (Ri0Ku)

219 @BNONews
2m2 minutes ago
More
BREAKING: Judge declares mistrial on 10 counts in Manafort trial; verdict on 8 other counts to be announced soon - REU/NBC

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (1jWCo)

220 Front-Hole Sun?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (G4W16)


Um, our lawyers will be in touch.

Posted by: Soundgarden at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (Zz0t1)

221 What the actual fuck? I think reading her excuse made a few brain cells commit suicide. Are the Mars rockets ready yet? I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Posted by: Cato by Phone at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (J+mig)

222 My guess is guilty on 8, hung on 10. Most likely the financial counts

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (pUDQf)

223 unanimous on 8 counts doesn't seem to mean they all went the same way .. could be 2 guilty 6 not guilty, as I read it.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (bT8Z4)

224 purely speculation, however, I would think that the eight are in manafort's favor

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (MTjB1)

225 Nothing to do with Trump!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:35 PM (4ErVI)

226 "154 What is this talk of Styx?!?!?!

Worst band ever.
Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (MVjcR)

Agree. Hated Dennis DeYoung's voice.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton"


Second worst after Rush. I will now go in to Witness Protection.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (OD2ni)

227 Plus 2 counts bank fraud and one count of something else.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (Ri0Ku)

228 It's Halloween by the Shaggs

Posted by: Bruce at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (8ikIW)

229 I think the only band I ever walked out on was Franz 'Take Me Out' Ferdinand. What a bunch of faggits. Where's the Black Hand when I needed them

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (N1ZXu)

230 The Grateful Dead are a worst band but great religious cult.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (2LelM)

231 >>> And speaking of dumb, Harvard Law's own Lawrence Tribe explains why Kavanaugh's views on baseball disqualify him from the bench.

Well if he's a Yankees fan, then yeah!

*smiles innocently at the AoS Yankees fans*

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (hvf9s)

232 >>unanimous on 8 counts doesn't seem to mean they all went the same way .. could be 2 guilty 6 not guilty, as I read it.

guilty on 8 charges. 5 on false tax returns.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (/tuJf)

233 >>Worst band ever.


U2


Sorry. You can't have a band where 2 guys have Mononyms.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (g5KCb)

234 hearing verdicts: guilty on all 8 tax charges, mistrial on other ten?

Just hearing that. No idea if it's true.

Fox is reporting that on twitter but it's rumorish.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (PA9oZ)

235 Manafort has been found guilty of being rich and working for Trump.

Posted by: Ripley at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (MxEKc)

236 ahem

Posted by: The Starland Vocal Band at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (vtcmf)

237 227 Plus 2 counts bank fraud and one count of something else.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (Ri0Ku)


So, okay, my libbo friends. What does this have to do with Donald Trump?

The correct answer is, of course, gornisht.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (G4W16)

238 Guilty of filing fake tax returns 5 counts.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:34 PM (/tuJf)

That's it. Let's begin impeachment hearings right now....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (y8Foj)

239 CNN saying Manafort guilty on a least one count.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (G0vdT)

240 @ 155 --

Unsellable books are used as weight to keep the racks from being knocked over.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (OL1aE)

241 Ugh, 8 guilty charges

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (W+vEI)

242 Glad they are talking about somebody besides us.

Posted by: Nickleback , poseurs favorite whipping boy at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (m/vQu)

243 I'd also like to nominate 'Dee-Lite' as worst band in history.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (bcbK8)

244

Second worst after Rush. I will now go in to Witness Protection.
Posted by: Benji Carver at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (OD2ni)
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Saw Rush too. 2112 Tour. Same venue as BOC/BS.

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (MVjcR)

245 >>The Grateful Dead are a worst band but great religious cult.


They were no Warlocks.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (g5KCb)

246 234 hearing verdicts: guilty on all 8 tax charges, mistrial on other ten?

Just hearing that. No idea if it's true.

Fox is reporting that on twitter but it's rumorish.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (PA9oZ)

NBC reported it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (4ErVI)

247 Why does every reggae song have the same fucking beat? Its like canned potatoes. A real WTF.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (2LelM)

248 I wonder what the verdicts would have been if CNN didn't threaten the jury Friday.....

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (mCMQ5)

249 Has the woodpile and stake been assembled yet? Cap'n Bill and his fellow cruise bois are hankerin' for some s'mores.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (ptqGC)

250 So they did all of that for what could be accomplished in an IRS audit.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (Boy/L)

251 April Ryan is not Miss Piggy.

Nor is she Shrek.

Ace settled this some time ago: April Ryan is an Obese Froghemoth.

Put it in the stylebook.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (AzW6q)

252 Failure to file? I fail to file things all the time.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (lwiT4)

253 There are three stacks of Omarosa's book at my local Costco. Is Costco required to display these worthless political books?

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at August 21, 2018 04:30 PM (nBr1j)
..........

I bet you can't just buy one!

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (HgMAr)

254 Filing false tax returns?

Will Mewller prosecute the Clintons for writing off used underwear on their tax returns?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (YEriz)

255 >>I'd also like to nominate 'Dee-Lite' as worst band in history.


Are you crazy?

Lady Miss Kier is a goddess.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (g5KCb)

256 nd speaking of dumb, Harvard Law's own Lawrence Tribe explains why Kavanaugh's views on baseball disqualify him from the bench.

Well if he's a Yankees fan, then yeah!

Tribe? He's gotta like Cleveland, right?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (y8Foj)

257 April Ryan is Al Sharpton with tits. Except not as smart.

Posted by: hepcat at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (5b+Sr)

258 I fucking hope Jeff the Keebler Elf Sessions is pleased he protected his good name recusing himself and allowing all of this.

Manafort and Cohen go down for bullshit nonsense.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (sJpRh)

259 Guilty on 5 tax fraud charges. How is this related to Russia and the election?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (OLCnA)

260 233 >>Worst band ever.


U2


Sorry. You can't have a band where 2 guys have Mononyms.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (g5KCb)

Technically, there's just one: Bono.
David Evans is 'The Edge'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (bcbK8)

261 So? Guilty on 8 counts....WTF does any of it have to do with collusion or Donald fucking Trump?

NOTHING!!!!!

Fuck this entire thing.....

Posted by: Soundgarden at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)

262 >>Worst band ever.

U2



"Seriously?"
--- Pearl Jam

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (W+vEI)

263 >>They were no Warlocks.

But ..

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (/tuJf)

264 Yeah. U2 most over-rated band.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (NLLmE)

265 Free as a bird! Free as a bird!

Posted by: "Reverend" Al Sharpton, tax dodger at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (ptqGC)

266 None of the charges have anything to do with Trump but if he hadn't worked for Trump he never would have been charged.

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (mCMQ5)

267 Can't wait for the explanations of how Trump is now doooooomed.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (pUDQf)

268 Mistrial on 10, verdict on 8? This should be interesting...

I hate interesting.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (AM1GF)

269 Bullfrog Lady looks like she could do some serious damage if we're ever plagued by locusts.

Posted by: Fritz at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (CdLX2)

270 233 >>Worst band ever.


U2


Sorry. You can't have a band where 2 guys have Mononyms.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:36 PM (g5KCb)

I'm not judging anybody's tastes but that would be my choice for worst band ever.

Posted by: Nickleback , poseurs favorite whipping boy at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (m/vQu)

271 ahem

Posted by: The Starland Vocal Band at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (vtcmf)



Oh ya you win.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (lwiT4)

272 Mistrial declared on 10 charges.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

273 Groove is the heart.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (NLLmE)

274 255 >>I'd also like to nominate 'Dee-Lite' as worst band in history.


Are you crazy?

Lady Miss Kier is a goddess.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (g5KCb)

Surrounded by paisley monkeys. And that slide whistle....gah!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (bcbK8)

275 All this "worst band in history" and no hate for 4 Non-Blondes? Seriously?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (AM1GF)

276 252 Failure to file? I fail to file things all the time.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (lwiT4)

No one goes to jail for failing to file. In fact, it's better to just not file, by miles, than to file with fraudulent information. THAT is what they'll kill you on.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (4ErVI)

277 "243 I'd also like to nominate 'Dee-Lite' as worst band in history.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards"


I think the dude in that band had the original man bun.

Posted by: Benji Carver at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (OD2ni)

278 Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (/tuJf)


Who were no 'Mickey and The Heartbeats'

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (g5KCb)

279 istrial declared on 10 charges.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (/tuJf)

That means a do-over, right? Let the circus continue....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (y8Foj)

280 Crap, no more socks. They're sticky.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (m/vQu)

281 N words to discribe liberals NIT-WIT,NUT,NODDLE NOSE,NUTSY,NUTTY,NANNY

Posted by: Tamaa the Bird 1000 Voices at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (wGqjj)

282 If they did render a guilty verdict on his tax returns the left is going to crow from now through November that this is an indictment of Trump even though this happened a decade ago.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (JUOKG)

283 >>Surrounded by paisley monkeys. And that slide whistle....gah!


That was Bootsie on the Slide Whistle!

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (g5KCb)

284 ahem

Posted by: The Starland Vocal Band at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (vtcmf)

ahem-hem

Posted by: The PC Matic Band at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (HgMAr)

285 hmmm, I wonder if Mueller would like the names of some other tax cheats. Looking at you, Sharpton.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (pUDQf)

286

So, will the judge sentence him to time served?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (G4W16)

287 Stevie Wonder walks into a bar...and a chair...and a table...and the counter...and a staircase...

Manafort found guilty on 8 counts according to local commie news.


Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (r9UYA)

288 All this "worst band in history" and no hate for 4 Non-Blondes? Seriously?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (AM1GF)


Plenty of hate for them......And The Cranberries.......PLENTY.

Posted by: Soundgarden at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (Zz0t1)

289 275 All this "worst band in history" and no hate for 4 Non-Blondes? Seriously?
Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:39 PM (AM1GF)

Yeah! What's going on?!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (bcbK8)

290 None of the charges have anything to do with Trump but if he hadn't worked for Trump he never would have been charged.
Probably true, but I try to avoid equating Manafort's trial outcome with anything to do with Trump. I thought the guy was a sleaze from the beginning. Nonetheless, Mueller is clearly trying to squeeze him to rat on Trump.

Posted by: pep at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (T6t7i)

291 Guilty on 5 tax fraud charges. How is this related to Russia and the election?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (OLCnA)



Guy on CNN said he mailed in his tax returns in a Russian-made envelope, just after Trump clinched the primaries.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (lwiT4)

292 I just love the Slide Whistle.

Posted by: Shemp! at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (vtcmf)

293 I nominate Mouth and McNeil as worst pop group ever.

Posted by: Northernlurker lurkier than ever at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (nBr1j)

294 DAMN you sock....

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (Zz0t1)

295 Why doesn't trump fire the Keebler elf?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (6Ll1u)

296 April Ryan is Al Sharpton with tits. Except not as smart.
Posted by: hepcat at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (5b+Sr)

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And, theoretically, a front hole.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (I16G8)

297 so how much time does he risk in club fed on the 8 guilty charges?

does he get credit for time served?

suppose mueller will request supermax.

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (MTjB1)

298 Okay, i realize they could get to 8 by reaching a decision on the 5 tax fraud charges, plus the 3 involving the loan from Citizens bank.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (k1TUh)

299 Hurr durr THIS IS A MAJOR VICTORY FOR THE MUELLER TEAM.

Lol it's a standard tax evasion case with a buncha other shit tossed in.

And none of it has a thing to do with Trump.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (4ErVI)

300 So, will the judge sentence him to time served?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


Can he sentence the prosecutor for forcing him to sit through this shitshow?

Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (AM1GF)

301 I think watching the earths tectonic plates grinding against each other is more entertaining...

Posted by: Geology grad student at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (SQOeW)

302 VERDIVT IS IN: MANAFORT GUILTY ON 8 OF 18 COUNTS

JURY HUNG ON REMAINING 10 COUNTS

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (QU+qf)

303 >>>And, theoretically, a front hole.

I'd say an "Under-the-Gunt Hole."

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (PA9oZ)

304 Stevie Wonder walks into a bar...and a chair...and a table...and the counter...and a staircase...

Manafort found guilty on 8 counts according to local commie news.


Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (r9UYA)


Stevie doesn't walk into shit because he's not blind.

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (Zz0t1)

305 April Ryan is Al Sharpton with tits. Except not as smart.
Posted by: hepcat at August



or sexy either

Posted by: ? at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (MTjB1)

306 You know how PDT cancelling Brennan's security clearance is the Worst Thing Ever?

Rush pointed out today that Obama cleaned house after his coronation, on the advice of Clapper, who said "too many people" had security clearances.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (ptqGC)

307 Manafort also illegally parked in 1987!
Robert Mueller

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (mCMQ5)

308 282 If they did render a guilty verdict on his tax returns the left is going to crow from now through November that this is an indictment of Trump even though this happened a decade ago.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (JUOKG)
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Then ask them what that exactly has to do with Russian collusion. You'll get blank stares and then a sudden scream of "but Russia!"

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (G0vdT)

309 All this "worst band in history"

Bo Donaldson and Heywoods and it's not even close.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (Boy/L)

310 Posh Queef was hot.

Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (PFd3d)

311
The media dummy Ryan, and all the other media dummies, did not elevate themselves. Someone else did.

The motivation of the people who hired them is --- what?


Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (Pk9R2)

312 Has the woodpile and stake been assembled yet? Cap'n Bill and his fellow cruise bois are hankerin' for some s'mores.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 04:37 PM (ptqGC)

Everyone, but you unprincipled TrumpHumpers, knows that you can't have a bonfire on a boat!

🚢 🚢 🚢

Posted by: Kruise Kaptain Kristol 🚢 at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (DzFIB)

313 Bank fraud and tax fraud has what to do with Russian hacking or collusion?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (OLCnA)

314 283 >>Surrounded by paisley monkeys. And that slide whistle....gah!


That was Bootsie on the Slide Whistle!
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:40 PM (g5KCb)

I love Parliment as much as the next white man but "Grove is in the Heart" would get me out the window of an airplane in flight.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (bcbK8)

315 I'd also like to nominate 'Dee-Lite' as worst band in history.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards



pffffft.

Posted by: Black Oak Arkansas at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (T6t7i)

316 Lol it's a standard tax evasion case with a buncha other shit tossed in.

And none of it has a thing to do with Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (4ErVI)

Which Trump is sure to tweet about...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (y8Foj)

317 I get the feeling most people are more interested in dinner than the Manafort outcome. Except highly political types, of course.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (Nt/TS)

318 Jury asked the judge to keep their names confidential.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (fA1SL)

319 This article about why Dean Ween of Ween hates 4 Non Blondes is f'n' HYSTERICAL

https://music.avclub.com/mickey-dean-ween-

melchiondo-on-why-he-hates-4-non-blo-1798238547

connect the two pieces

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (PA9oZ)

320 Nicky Minaj is pretty crappy and her ass is fat enough to be a whole band.

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (HgMAr)

321 So, opulent s**t sandwich for all you outnumbered informed rule-of-law sorts.


Convictions for Manafort on old tax charges which didn't follow any normal procedure (looked into and filed away years ago, no audit ever done, etc.). By a "special counsel" - whose appointment was in its own right illegitimate, and whose mandate could not, logically or reasonably, have anything to do with old tax cases.


And basically nothing for Awan, who's at the center of a complicated case involving lots of gross and obvious law-breaking, almost certainly lots of serious hostile intel operations against Congress/the US, and whose connections include lots and lots of extraordinarily dicey ones to, literally, al Qaeda.


Big shots of Patience and Faith required, stat.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (QDnY+)

322 If you could be one of two people in the world would it be Starsky or Hutch?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (2LelM)

323 Thanks a fucking fuck-ton, Jeff "Sleepy" Sessionzzzzzzzz
Farepoorly,
Paul Manafort

Posted by: DocJ at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (NYS7S)

324 Like a Flock of Seagulls, I ran so far away after hearing that song...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (YEriz)

325 Sorry. Love everything about Miss Kier.

Those were really fun shows, too.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (g5KCb)

326 I think the White House press room should replace the carpet with sawdust, circus peanuts, elephant dung and chewing tobacco spit to make the clowns feel more at home. And the press secretary should show up in top hat and tails like a proper ringmaster.
After a month, they could remodel as a pre-school, or a loony bin, or a cage already pre-filled with poo-flinging monkeys.

Posted by: Truth in advertising at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (FV7LC)

327 If you could be one of two people in the world would it be Starsky or Hutch?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (2LelM)

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..yes..

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (8XRCm)

328 I'd also like to nominate 'Dee-Lite' as worst band in history.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Were they even a "band?" One hot chick, a couple of dorks and a Bootsy Collins cameo on their ONE big hit.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (y8Foj)

329 Posted by: Black Oak Arkansas at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (T6t7i)

You leave Jim Dandy Mangrum alone or there will be violence on the blog.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (Boy/L)

330 So, will Manafort be spending his time in the Big House in solitary?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (ptqGC)

331 320 Nicky Minaj is pretty crappy and her ass is fat enough to be a whole band.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (HgMAr)


But she hates Jooz so Roger "Maxine" Waters thinks she's brilliant.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (G4W16)

332 Sub Gunt Front.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (NLLmE)

333 >>> You know how PDT cancelling Brennan's security clearance is the Worst Thing Ever?Rush pointed out today that Obama cleaned house after his coronation, on the advice of Clapper, who said "too many people" had security clearances.


Wait, so Trump's move to cancel a security clearance was not "unprecedented"? The lamestream media was giving me fake news???

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (hvf9s)

334 >>>310 Posh Queef was hot.

Scary Queef was... well. You wouldn't want to be in the same elevator.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (PA9oZ)

335 Morris Day and the Time

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (pUDQf)

336 Now would be an excellent time for Trump to start tweeting about the ties between Mueller, McCabe and others and Oleg Deripaska, the guy the FBI asked for help to set up Manafort.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (/tuJf)

337 >> This article about why Dean Ween of Ween hates 4 Non Blondes is f'n' HYSTERICAL


I saw Deaner a few weeks back.

Rippin' show.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (g5KCb)

338 the Clinton Foundation is illegally set up, in about 50 different ways, as Charles Ortel covers for a couple hours or more each week. They never got a required audit, they changed the purpose and location and had spending for things not covered by their "charter" ... never filed for some years ... and of course it was really funding their campaigns, not to mention the fake drug sales and Chelsea's wedding ... not compromised pardoned witnesses needed.

but OK ... lock up Manafort for life ... but at least give the man a book to read.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (bT8Z4)

339 Worst Band Ever??


Duran Fucking Duran

Posted by: fixerupper at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (8XRCm)

340 The eight will probably get tossed on appeal due to the massive irregularities in the process. Wouldn't be surprised if the other ten just go away.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (AM1GF)

341 I love Parliment as much as the next white man but "Grove is in the Heart" would get me out the window of an airplane in flight.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (bcbK


Reminds me of a parody song starring fake Ronald Reagan.

"I'm in a grove now...."

"That's groove, Mr. President."

"Oh. I'm in a groove now...."

Posted by: Sponge at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (Zz0t1)

342 Message was revieved loud and clear by the Jury. Runaway Jury has officially become real life just like other Gene Hackman movies that are ahead of ten curve like Enemy of the State.

Posted by: your neighbor with a telescope at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (sFofr)

343 I hope Ace is furiously typing

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (bUjCl)

344 Jury asked the judge to keep their names confidential.

Well, YES.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (Boy/L)

345 >>323
Thanks a fucking fuck-ton, Jeff "Sleepy" Sessionzzzzzzzz

Yes, him in particular.

Posted by: Under Fire at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (r9UYA)

346 No one talks about Freaky Queef any more.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (YEriz)

347 4 non blondes singer 'married' to Sarah Gilbert.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (m/vQu)

348 Oh good, did not misspell that one...

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (bUjCl)

349 >>Duran Fucking Duran


Dude. Seven and the Ragged Tiger is Ace's 3rd favorite album.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (g5KCb)

350 335 Morris Day and the Time
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (pUDQf)


Better than Prince IMHO.

But you want a great band to see in concert? Kid Creole and the Coconuts.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (G4W16)

351 Lol it's a standard tax evasion case with a buncha other shit tossed in.

And none of it has a thing to do with Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis

_______

Look, if we could throw a bunch of Obama's cronies in prison, we'd be high fiveing each other.

And Sessions is allowing it to happen.

And they're doing it on bullshit tax returns.

Somehow Timothy Geitner got to be Treasury Secretary and have his name printed on our money despite having 6 figures worth of tax fraud exposed.

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (sJpRh)

352 343 I hope Ace is furiously typing
Posted by: runner at August 21, 2018 04:44 PM (bUjCl)
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I wonder if Ace is a Styx Man. I think we have a right to know.

Posted by: Weasel at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (MVjcR)

353 Jeff Sessions has turned out to be quite the disgrace. Only blackmail would explain this, imho.

Posted by: prescient11 at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (q+HNC)

354 Yeah. U2 most over-rated band.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2018 04:38 PM (NLLmE)

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*Dons flak vest and tactical helmet*

Led Zeppelin

*Crawls under fire blanket*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (AzW6q)

355 Ear worm for the day:

"Midnight at the Oasis"

You're welcome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (ptqGC)

356 Lol it's a standard tax evasion case with a buncha other shit tossed in.

And none of it has a thing to do with Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (4ErVI)

Which Trump is sure to tweet about...

Posted by: JoeF. at August 21, 2018 04:42 PM (y8Foj)

I hope, hope, HOPE that PDJT compares and contrasts to one rev. Al Sharpton, who I do believe STILL owes 4 million to the irs...

Posted by: SturmToddler at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (8D42x)

357 >>But you want a great band to see in concert?


Orgone

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (g5KCb)

358 >>>325 Sorry. Love everything about Miss Kier.

Those were really fun shows, too.
Posted by: garrett a

...

Um, just pointing out, this is the guy who calls me An Queer because I have a messenger bag. And he's dancing the night away with a notoriously gay-skewing disco act.

This amyl-nitrate-huffing JoyBoy ClubKid has a lot to account for.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (PA9oZ)

359 Bloomberg TV is saying that Cohen has said he violated campaign laws at the direction of an unnamed candidate

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (OLCnA)

360 >>> Nicky Minaj is pretty crappy and her ass is fat enough to be a whole band. Posted by: wth at August 21, 2018 04:43 PM (HgMAr)

Like I pointed out earlier today, she thinks she is as important as Harriet Tubman. Why you gotta disrespect one of our great American icons, wth??

Posted by: LizLem at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (hvf9s)

361

Who's April Ryan?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (HaL55)

362 Led Zeppelin
*Crawls under fire blanket*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (AzW6q)

Don't make me come over there.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (MX7xj)

363 You know how PDT cancelling Brennan's security clearance is the Worst Thing Ever?

Rush pointed out today that Obama cleaned house after his coronation, on the advice of Clapper, who said "too many people" had security clearances.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2018 04:41 PM (ptqGC)



This is the reason people don't trust the Press anymore. They don't point out facts. There's no context other than: We hate Trump and everything he does is wrong and everyone is gonna die. Eleventy!

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (Nt/TS)

364 >>>I wonder if Ace is a Styx Man. I think we have a right to know.


only Renegade. Which is pretty awesome.

Posted by: ace at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (PA9oZ)

365 Oh this should be entertaining.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2018 04:46 PM (/tuJf)

366 Jeff Sessions has turned out to be quite the disgrace. Only blackmail would explain this, imho.
Posted by: prescient11
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That's the only logical conclusion at this point.

Sessions could have some sort of Dennis Hastert type problems.

The guy comes off like a pedo, I know that

Posted by: Jolly Roger at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (sJpRh)

367 >>"Midnight at the Oasis"


Maria Muldaur is/was not awful.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (g5KCb)

368 Paul Manafort Found Guilty of Consorting with the Donald Trump Election Campaign.

Posted by: rd at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (StWNw)

369 357 >>But you want a great band to see in concert?


Orgone
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Did you mean Oregon?

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (2LelM)

370 But you want a great band to see in concert? Kid Creole and the Coconuts.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2018 04:45 PM (G4W16)

Against All Odds. The backup singers all had hairy armpits. That's all I can remember about Kid Creole.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (m/vQu)

371 >>The motivation of the people who hired them is --- what?


Seems obvious Ryan was hired because she is excellent at being a PITA to the Trump admin.

She is obnoxious during press briefings and willing to get into tabloid-y feuds with Sanders, Omarosa, et al. She's the one who harassed Sara Sanders over her tweet about making pecan pie for Thanksgiving, saying essentially, "Prove it, you lie about everything so why should I believe you made pie!" Petty, stupid, unprofessional woman.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (W+vEI)

372 If only I didn't have so many bones in my throat, the stories I could tell...

Posted by: Garrett's Closet at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (PA9oZ)

373 351Hey,TurboTax fucked me!IDid you see that magazine story thst said I was one of the hot young people in theObama administration?
Tim Geitner

Posted by: steevy at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (mCMQ5)

374 So, do we know precisely what the decided-not-to-be-fed-to-the-antifa-crazies jurors decided Manafort should rot for?

Posted by: DocJ at August 21, 2018 04:47 PM (NYS7S)

375 358 >>>325 Sorry. Love everything about Miss Kier. <