Gun Thread: To Clean or Not to Clean [Weasel]

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So what is the very first thing you do when you come home from the range? What's the very most important thing in the whole wide world? The most important thing above all other things? Well for me it sure as hell isn't cleaning guns. When I get home from shooting I generally like to make a sammich, or take a nap, or take the dog for a walk.

Cleaning Ritual
Let's just say that my priorities have changed over time. Where I once spent as much time cleaning guns as I did shooting them, laziness, sloth, a bad attitude, and frankly other interests have changed my post shooting ritual. OK - I'm clearly trying to start a debate, so have at it... but there really isn't a completely right or wrong answer. If you want to extend your "gun time" after shooting, then by all means, get out the Q-Tips, dental picks, and have fun! If you're ready to do something else for the day, then give it a quick wipe down with one of the oily rags you keep by the furnace, and put it away for next time. As long as you are protecting from moisture and rust, and under most normal operating conditions, it's gonna be ok! Some notable exceptions would be a carry gun which should be inspected weekly and cleaned or lubricated as necessary, whenever you're using black powder or corrosive ammunition, and finally in competition guns which are generally cleaned at the end of each match day.

All of my guns are shooters, and generally fall into one of two categories; those that I shoot a lot, and those I don't. The ones in the current rotation get a couple drops of oil or a little grease and a wipe down before and after each time out. The regular shooters might easily go many hundreds of rounds before I perform anything close to a thorough cleaning. The ones I don't shoot very often get a little more attention and a pass with a barrel brush plus a light coat of oil inside and out before I put them away. I almost never perform a cleaning at the molecular level anymore and don't think I have even come close to having any firearm malfunction as a result.

Again, if your dad, or you granddad, or a friendly drill instructor in the Army or Marines taught you a certain procedure or frequency that you are now accustomed to, then keep doing what makes you happy. And for the super-advanced level lazy people who never, ever clean their guns, that probably isn't a great idea either. So in summary, something between *never* and *all the time* is probably about the right cleaning frequency.


Cleaning Products

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Which gun care products to use is just as subjective as how often to use them. Whatever the reason, everyone has their favorite and swears by it. As with any other hobby (fishing, boating and golf come to mind) the minute you identify a particular application for anything the price goes up about 12 times. I really, really like saving money by finding alternative products that work just as well as the specialized products you simply can't live without according to the manufacturer.

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Here is some of what I use

I like the way Hoppes 9 smells and it does a great job cleaning. Synthetic 5W-30 motor oil protects my car's engine so I suspect it will do the same for guns. A quart of oil is a lifetime supply, costs less than $10, and it's what my gunsmith uses. Kroil is another favorite used when I'm going to put a gun away for some time. TW25B synthetic grease has always worked well for me and comes in either a syringe or tube for precise application to slide rails and bolt locking lugs. I use a slightly thicker grease on my Garands. Not pictured is Ballistol a just all around great product with countless uses. Seriously, if you aren't familiar with Ballistol, check it out.

The general rule I follow is: If it turns, oil it. If it slides, grease it.

Oil vs. Grease

One note on the link - while poking around for links to use in this thread, I couldn't find much that seemed even remotely objective. Understanding that machines and firearms often have different requirements, this article at least offers the reader an examination of the potential pro and cons of each. Have a look and decide for yourself!

***This Old Gun***

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U.S. Army Air Service Commemorative Savage .32

Now how cool is this?

This week's Old Gun comes to us from retropox. A WWI commemorative for a pilot, engraved and gold filled; “AEF 1918” and “Flying Captain J. A. E“ on slide, and ‘Calamity’ on the rear strap of the frame. The lanyard, silver oil bottle, and collar insignia are all 1918 vintage, while the ammo is modern. A truly remarkable and lovingly assembled collection - thanks for sharing retropox!

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If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are welcome! Email: guns at happyplacearsenal dot com

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Does WeaselDog pack heat?

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (2NqXo)

2 I thought the beauty of Glocks is that you never have to clean them

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (1UZdv)

3 My fave is my Winchester .22 model 62A pump.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 23, 2018 07:14 PM (YdWuB)

4 with one of the oily rags you keep by the furnace

Heh.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2018 07:15 PM (sdi6R)

5 Superior Kalashnikov platform rifle laughs down its hard-chrome-plated bore and gas system at veak, effeminate AR's.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:16 PM (fA1SL)

6 YEAH, sailor! Ream that out!

Posted by: Kap'n Kristol at September 23, 2018 07:16 PM (N1ZXu)

7 looking forward to dueling between women to be a thing.

Posted by: Ever at September 23, 2018 07:16 PM (OLS0m)

8 I almost never clean my guns and it's never been an issue.

I used to be religious about it, now I just don't care.

Posted by: Blago at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (UfkIY)

9 I clean my Eastern Bloc stuff immediately. I actually spray it down at the range with the windexish stuff.

The guns shooting the cleaner American ammo get cleaned when I feel like it. Every 3-5 trips to the range or sooner if they are going to be laid up in ordinary, as it were. or if they malf.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (yQpMk)

10 Glocks are a cinch to clean, compared to a standard 1911 type.
Compression of the main spring alone is about 100 times easier.

Posted by: navybrat, stays off BART trains at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (w7KSn)

11 What kind of duel? Guns, swords, knives, bullwhip, what? I prefer the bullwhip.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (myjNJ)

12 1 Does WeaselDog pack heat?
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (2NqXo)
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WeaselDog packs teeth!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (MVjcR)

13 Gunga la gunga

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (j1+Gy)

14 Salt will rust your gun but
if you are not salt sensitive it won't raise your bp.

If your circulation is not up to snuff it will help you retain water and your feet to swell.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (PkIg+)

15 Grease for guns, oil for sewing machines.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (yQpMk)

16 Got a new gun and fired it for first time yesterday- hi-point 4095. I know, I know, hi-point, but I wanted a pistol caliber carbine and the new Rugers don't come in .40 to match my glock 27. Anyway, makes clovers at 25 yds- I really liked it.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (87EdW)

17 All of my guns are shooters

As opposed to.....?

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 23, 2018 07:19 PM (XKZwp)

18 15. This is correct and indisputable.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)

19 The thing about battle rifles and other surplus weapons is that any old crap from the auto parts place is better than what they were designed to use.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:20 PM (yQpMk)

20 "So what is the very first thing you do when you come home from the range?"

Inspect, clean, lube, securely store guns.
Score and record targets.
Plan next trip.
Replenish range bag for next trip.
Assess ammo inventory, handload new batches as needed.

Posted by: gp at September 23, 2018 07:20 PM (mk9aG)

21 Obligatory: WD-40 has no place on a gun bench unless the chair squeaks or something.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:20 PM (y87Qq)

22 glad to share it. thanks.

Posted by: retropox at September 23, 2018 07:20 PM (8h9kC)

23

Speaking of oiling...

I'm gonna have a mechanic undercoat my car this week.

Today's "rust-proofing" is just an oily substance sprayed onto your cars under-bits and inside the crevices. Lasts about a year.

But if you live anywhere where they Salt the roads, it's a Must Do.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 07:20 PM (4o/yn)

24 Just discovered the Hi-Point 4095 .40 caliber carbine. I might be in love. Please don't tell the wife.

I was looking to maximize my ammo. Since I have two .40 caliber pistols resting at the bottom of the lake, I thought a nice carbine should join them.

I expect to see it peaking out behind the Christmas tree this year.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 23, 2018 07:21 PM (1dR75)

25 15 Grease for guns, oil for sewing machines.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (yQpMk)
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I mostly just use a drop or two of oil on the ejector rods on revolvers.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:22 PM (MVjcR)

26
Here's another data point

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2018/09/11/ar-accuracy-testing-at-10000-rounds/

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (1hM1d)

27 17 All of my guns are shooters

As opposed to.....?
Posted by: pookysgirl at September 23, 2018 07:19 PM (XKZwp)
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Unfired collectors items. Safe queens.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

28 My gun cleaning consists of two passes through the barrel with a boresnake immediately after the last shot is fired at the range. After that, a light spray with CLP for lube. Full takedown and cleaning every 1k rounds or so.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (I16G8)

29 Weasel-

You do a GREAT job on the Gun Thread, nothing against the previous author.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (j1+Gy)

30 After-range - strip pistols down to frame. Clean bore, scrub and grease frame and all moving parts.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:24 PM (fA1SL)

31 Got a new gun and fired it for first time yesterday- hi-point 4095. I know, I know, hi-point, but I wanted a pistol caliber carbine and the new Rugers don't come in .40 to match my glock 27. Anyway, makes clovers at 25 yds- I really liked it.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (87EdW)

!!! Maybe 4095s will be sisters? Welcome to the family. Stay off the lake.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 23, 2018 07:24 PM (1dR75)

32 In truth, I have started to use the Ballistol a lot on the better weapons. It's interesting. Not much good against copper but handles carbon very well.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:24 PM (yQpMk)

33 I mentioned yesterday about a Massdrop promotion for hand-inked/screened 18"x24" prints of various item's original patent drawings, each available in various colors (b/w, blueprint, etc). They have several guns: M1 Garand, Browning's 1911, Glock 17, M16, first revolver, etc.

I think they're a steal at $15.

https://tinyurl.com/ydgc86c8


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:24 PM (rnXGe)

34 29 Weasel-

You do a GREAT job on the Gun Thread, nothing against the previous author.
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (j1+Gy)
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Why thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:25 PM (MVjcR)

35 Check out Drudge -- massive red headlines saying ANOTHER woman is coming out of the woodwork to accuse Kavanaugh of something sexual.

The Dems are making this nomination their hill to die on.

All of this theater for the sole purpose of trying to frighten three wishy-washy Senators into changing their votes, based on media narratives about how "most" Americans now want Kavanaugh out.

If those three Senators don't cave, then the Dems WILL die on this hill.

Will they cave? Civilization's fate is in their hands.

P.S. -The new allegations somehow involve a "dildo," and the accuser is again a well-documented lib activist.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 07:25 PM (c+2jX)

36 I put about 80 rounds through mine, sighting it in, then plinking. Functioned flawlessly with the factory mag- 2 FTFs with aftermarket 15 rd pro-mags- both on round 14- probably going to compress the springs and make them 13 rounders and retry.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 23, 2018 07:25 PM (87EdW)

37 Weasel-

You do a GREAT job on the Gun Thread, nothing against the previous author.
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (j1+Gy)
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Why thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel


You're very welcome !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:26 PM (j1+Gy)

38 Ballistol really attracts the ladies too.

They'll come right in and say "WHAT THE @&CK IS THAT SMELL?!!!"

Posted by: Common Tater at September 23, 2018 07:26 PM (8Z2uw)

39 32 In truth, I have started to use the Ballistol a lot on the better weapons. It's interesting. Not much good against copper but handles carbon very well.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:24 PM (yQpMk)
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I seem to recall the development of Ballistol was an interesting story in itself.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:27 PM (MVjcR)

40 Ballistol really attracts the ladies too.

They'll come right in and say "WHAT THE @&CK IS THAT SMELL?!!!"

Posted by: Common Tater


LOL !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (j1+Gy)

41 When I acquired my superior Kalashnikov platform rifle, I did a torture test. After preliminary cleaning and greasing, I ran 15 mags of Bulgarian milsurp through Nastya. Not a single failure.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (fA1SL)

42 37 Weasel-

You do a GREAT job on the Gun Thread, nothing against the previous author.
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (j1+Gy)
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Why thank you!!

Posted by: Weasel


You're very welcome !
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:26 PM (j1+Gy)

What protectant do you use on your lips when butt-kissing? Are you a traditional Chapstick guy or a Blistex man?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (NWiLs)

43 Unfired collectors items. Safe queens.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:23 PM (MVjcR)

But could you shoot them if you wanted to?

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (XKZwp)

44 I think the whole "clean you guns after every outing" is sort of like how Jiffy Lube still insists you change your oil every 3000 miles.

It's to sell product and advice from a bygone era to scare people.

Posted by: Blago at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (UfkIY)

45 P.S. -The new allegations somehow involve a "dildo," and the accuser is again a well-documented lib activist.
Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 07:25 PM (c+2jX)

To be fair, 9 out of 10 times it's an electric razor.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (iqInZ)

46 Early OT, but more appropriate here than the food thread - Gavin MacInnes on the pleasures of punching antifa goons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt1Jd1gwyxA

(Gav begins at 12:40)

"These people are so soft after being placated for all of Obama's term that they're easy prey. When we fought these Antifa kids in New York, who were all just professors' sons, who are Marxists because Daddy told them to be... it feels sexist to beat them up, cuz when you punch them it feels like a girl. Their faces cave in, it's like paper mache!"

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (kQs4Y)

47 If I could come up with a formula for a slide rail lubricant that didn't attract cat hair like a magnet, I could retire on a private island made out of gold-plated cocaine.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (y87Qq)

48 @35 My money is that it's from Yale days.

It's been Barzini Schumer all along.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 07:29 PM (1UZdv)

49 I cleanse them with the blood of my enemies, and thus the Earth is purged.

Posted by: Fred Rogers (Not him, the other one) at September 23, 2018 07:29 PM (oVJmc)

50 47 If I could come up with a formula for a slide rail lubricant that didn't attract cat hair like a magnet, I could retire on a private island made out of gold-plated cocaine.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (y87Qq)

Ditch the cat. Problem solved. You're welcome. But I reserve all rights to the solution.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 07:29 PM (NWiLs)

51
All of my guns are shooters

As opposed to.....?
Posted by: pookysgirl


Shootees

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 07:30 PM (IqV8l)

52 What protectant do you use on your lips when butt-kissing? Are you a traditional Chapstick guy or a Blistex man?

Posted by: Insomniac


Ahhhhhh !

Just attempting to give credit where its due.

I miss most of the threads anyhoo.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:30 PM (j1+Gy)

53 44. This is true for those firing veak, vomanish non-corrosive ammo thru veak, effeminate veshtern weapons.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:30 PM (fA1SL)

54
They'll come right in and say "WHAT THE @&CK IS THAT SMELL?!!!"
Posted by: Common Tater at September 23, 2018 07:26 PM (8Z2uw)
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I hear that a lot even when I'm not cleaning guns.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:31 PM (MVjcR)

55 I seem to recall the development of Ballistol was an interesting story in itself.

It's basically food grade mineral oil. Hickock45 touts it. The recommended usage sounds crazy but you mix it 10 parts or so of water to one part oil, when you spray it on the water carries to oil into all the cracks and crevices.

I'm using about 6-1 though. And leaving things in a warm environment. The idea of intentionally sending water into seams is bothersome but then I clean my Russian stuff with boiling water so what do I know.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:31 PM (yQpMk)

56 Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:30 PM (j1+Gy)

I'm just giving you good-natured shit, of course.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 07:31 PM (NWiLs)

57 Prop maker for Broadway shows busted at work in Manhattan for printing 3D gun:

https://tinyurl.com/ybug3d2w

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 07:32 PM (UdKB7)

58 When I acquired my superior Kalashnikov platform rifle, I did a torture test. After preliminary cleaning and greasing, I ran 15 mags of Bulgarian milsurp through Nastya. Not a single failure.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (fA1SL)


Preliminary cleaning? You know very well the manual outlines a methodical break-in schedule of shoot until the cosmolene seepage slows from garden hose to slow drip.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:32 PM (y87Qq)

59 55. '...with boiling water....'
*
Slav ways are best ways.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:32 PM (fA1SL)

60 When Democrats bring a gun to the fight the Republicans run away and get shot in the back.

This week is gonna be a doozey.

Posted by: torabora at September 23, 2018 07:32 PM (dNNMT)

61 Yea Rockies! Still in it.

Farmer......if you are still around......recipe is willowed on the food thread.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 07:32 PM (c1nDO)

62 But could you shoot them if you wanted to?


Posted by: pookysgirl


Well, yeah.

This is AMERICA !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:32 PM (j1+Gy)

63 Another "clean or not clean" sub-argument.

It hinders accuracy. A clean gun, a really clean gun, isn't quite as accurate generally. I dunno about the Match Grade guns at Camp Perry, but laboriously scrubbing out the barrel so it's whizzy clean, it's going to need several rounds through it before it will settle in again. IMO

Posted by: Common Tater at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (8Z2uw)

64 Great, now the Drudge headline links to a Mediate story about the Drudge headline that links back to it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (rnXGe)

65 58. Heh. Mine is American-made, and so must be coddled.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (fA1SL)

66 I generally seta side a couple of hours Sunday afternoon (used to watch something on TV?) and go to my gun room and clean guns - some not fired in years. I like the quiet and the attention to detail and the rhythm of things. Relaxing.

Posted by: rammajamma at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (xceTB)

67
But could you shoot them if you wanted to?
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Sure! Some people don't, though, to maintain the perceived value as "unfired".

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (MVjcR)

68 "It's been Barzini Schumer all along."

Diane Tataglia is a pimp.
She could never have beaten Sonny.

Posted by: retropox at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (8h9kC)

69 Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:30 PM (j1+Gy)

I'm just giving you good-natured shit, of course.

Posted by: Insomniac


I know.

I never thought otherwise.

Feel free.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:34 PM (j1+Gy)

Food Thread: Pizza-->Calzone: The Best Laid Plans Of Mice And Men...

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That's what it was supposed to look like, and it was a good plan. Divide my usual pizza dough recipe into three rather than four portions, so I could make a larger pie. Why? No idea. I just felt like it. But that larger pie was slightly more difficult to slide off the peel and onto the steel (used to be a stone, but I upgraded after the stone cracked). There are a few reasons for the almost spectacular failure and resulting mess, but it boils down to my insufficient skill at stretching the dough into an even thickness, and the slight increase in time from stretching to baking, which gives the wet ingredients more time to soak through the dough.

But I recovered fairly well, and was able to fold the pizza over into a sort-of-calzone thing. It tasted okay, although the broccoli rabe I used was too bitter and astringent, so it was, ultimately, a failure. But at least I didn't dump the entire thing onto the bottom of the oven and make a huge smoking mess, so really, it was a resounding success.

The next time I made a thicker pie, so the issue of inconsistent thickness wasn't really an issue. And I liked it very much! The crust was chewy and crispy and quite nice, and it was trivially easy to stretch and top. I also put the stone under the broiler while preheating, because I wanted to see whether it got hot enough at the top of the oven, far away from the burners. It did, and I turned the broiler on for the last half of the bake to get the top nice and toasty. it worked like a charm, so all's right in Chez Dildo, at least from the pizza perspective.

Oh, that is raw sauce, topped with dry mozzarella, sweet soppressata, a sprinkle of fresh-grated Pecorino Romano and a bit of crushed red pepper.

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The Food Lab: The Reverse Sear Is the Best Way to Cook a Steak, Period

No. It isn't. Although it is quite good and certainly produces a marvelous steak. I am put off by these pronouncements from food writers, no matter how skilled they are, and Serious Eats is a solid source for food information. But I have tried many different ways to cook steak, and executed well, most of them are great. Sure, that English technique of boiling then frying wasn't the best, but there are lots of different ways to cook steak that are stylistically different but wonderful nonetheless.

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These look and sound pretty damned good, and it is a surprisingly easy recipe.
Triple Layer Peanut Butter Crunch Brownies
I appreciate her modifying the typical peanut butter filling...many of them are cloyingly sweet, but she doesn't use any sugar in it. I would push that even farther and use bittersweet chocolate for the top. I think the combination of peanut butter and dark chocolate is marvelous, and why you will see me hunched over the sink shoving dark-chocolate Reese's into my mouth whenever they show up in my kitchen.
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At a very popular hipster restaurant in London I had a cocktail that was absolutely spectacular. it really was the capper to a perfectly disappointing evening, because the food was great, which confounded my hopes and expectations. I hate popular places. I really hate hip and popular places. So this place totally ruined my "get off my lawn" hopes.

Bumblebee

  • 50ml Beefeater Gin
  • 20ml Lemon juice
  • 20ml Honey-ginger syrup
  • 25ml Dry Curacao
  • 2 dashes orange bitters

I left it as the bartender wrote it, so play around with the proportions to suit your taste. For the honey-ginger syrup I decided on a warm water extraction of one part grated ginger in two parts water. I pressed it dry and filtered it, then mixed it with an equal volume of honey. The dry curacao is really just a brand of triple sec, so use what you can find (try to buy the 40 proof stuff...it isn't as sweet).
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What to Drink Next: Trust These Names in Wine
Whenever I see these lists my reflex is to scoff and mock and poke with a sharp stick. But this list...isn't bad. these are, for the most part, solid and respected producers, so if you aren't familiar with what is available wherever you may be (restaurant, liquor store...), you could do a lot worse than these wines.

And...I have a soft spot in my heart for Yalumba. I visited a town east of Sydney called Katoomba a long time ago, and stayed in a small hotel that must have been converted from a whorehouse. I confuse the names all the time.

[I never claimed to be smart]

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Food and cooking tips, Haggis, Henry Big Boys in .357, Scotch Eggs, thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 I love pizza

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 04:00 PM (T4oHT)

2 First!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:01 PM (MVjcR)

3 Damnit!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:01 PM (MVjcR)

4 Hmmm...any one home?

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 04:01 PM (24tKv)

5 Mmm! Pie...

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2018 04:02 PM (b+SbO)

6 Yum! Both look good.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:02 PM (W+vEI)

7 Mmmmm pizza!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (DAdSz)

8 First one to mention she who must not be named will be reverse seared.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (T6t7i)

9 I am getting hungry for pizza, will have to get one soon.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (T4oHT)

10 I'm contemplating ordering a pizza. Somebody please talk me down.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (/qEW2)

11 Pizza-->Calzone


Of course, Pie > Cake.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (yQpMk)

12 Pizza. Mmmmmmm...

Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 04:04 PM (2shuf)

13 one the other hand, Burrito > Pizza.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:04 PM (yQpMk)

14 I make the Pioneer Woman's calzones and freeze them. Maybe not authentic crust, but I love the size and having something that tasty on hand.
I think I may go pop one in the toaster oven...

https://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/easy-calzones/

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:05 PM (W+vEI)

15 Frozen dough from the grocery store is a great invention.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:06 PM (yQpMk)

16 I can't remember the last time i had pizza.
Now i am craving.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 04:06 PM (24tKv)

17 Thin crust Dominos tonight.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:07 PM (MVjcR)

18 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:07 PM (rjbMC)

19 Costco cheese pizza when it is hot and fresh is very good.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:08 PM (DAdSz)

20 Oh thank God, a fresh-from-the-oven thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:08 PM (kQs4Y)

21 >> I love pizza


Me, too!

Such a simple pleasure. Crust, sauce, cheese, optional meats and/or veggies.

The key is to not put non-pizza toppings on the crust (i.e. buffalo chicken, Caesar salad, etc.).

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:08 PM (W+vEI)

22 I found that to get an even thickness on my dough for pizza, the best method is to use a rolling pin.

I have tried tossing it, pushing it flat, stretching it like filo, and in the end, using a rolling pin is probably the best method.

It could be that I like to use refrigerated bread dough, but all in all, it is what works for me.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 04:08 PM (mUa7G)

23 I had pizza yesterday, for some values of "pizza". It was Little Caesars. My mistake was adding mushrooms. Tasteless, rubbery, and straight out of a can.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:08 PM (yQpMk)

24 Made pizza last night........dough recipe from Italy, on a pizza stone on the grill.

Now off to tackle our gazillion apples. Cider, sauce and butter.

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (c1nDO)

25 The key is to not put non-pizza toppings on the crust (i.e. buffalo chicken, Caesar salad, etc.).
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:08 PM (W+vEI)
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Broccoli rabe.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (C1PQi)

26 I have bocatini boiling. Nice thick tubular spaghetti. I've never used it, but I bet it is molto robusto.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (kQs4Y)

27 Finally got the roof on the BBQ Pagoda...

now, for electricity changing the outlets on the grill from propane to NG.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (rjbMC)

28 Hmmmm, seems CBD has a 6 burner stove. More study required to discover the brand.
Did we have this as a discussion? Maybe last year?

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:10 PM (DAdSz)

29 Made pizza last night........dough recipe from Italy, on a pizza stone on the grill.

Now off to tackle our gazillion apples. Cider, sauce and butter.
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (c1nDO)
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The pizza stone doesn't crack on the grill? And lucky you, with all those apples. We had an apple tree, but the squirrels would get them all before they were ripe, and then it eventually died anyway, the end.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:10 PM (C1PQi)

30 There are two pizzas that haunt my dreams, both eaten in Rome. One was easily 18" diameter, but the crust was so thin it was a single-serving pizza. Crisp and light, just enough sauce and cheese for both of them to contribute taste.

The other was almost a thick crust, with edges folded over a little for "fillings" -- ham, sausage, mozzarella, and broccoli rabe, each in their own little pockets. That one was just unique.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 23, 2018 04:11 PM (naEeR)

31 I can't look at pizza anymore without recalling the scene in 'Death in Brunswick' with Sam Neill baking one for the thugs.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2018 04:11 PM (1iicH)

32 >>Now off to tackle our gazillion apples. Cider, sauce and butter.


Fun!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:12 PM (W+vEI)

33 Thin crust FTW!

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 04:12 PM (6Zmow)

34 Our lunch room cooks used to make an awesome calzone. One thing I miss about work, the other stuff not so much.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 04:12 PM (mpXpK)

35 shopping success story: got 5 gallons of peanut oil for ~$18 yesterday at Fart and Smile...

guess we'll be frying turkey for Thanksgiving and Christmas

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:12 PM (rjbMC)

36 Mmmmmm, Calzones.

Love them over pizza and seek them out in Italian restaurants.

Have made them too. Fun stuff. Delicious.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:13 PM (2I4LM)

37 Eris, bucatini is excellent! A big fav at our house. I get an Italian brand from Eataly. Molto bene!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:13 PM (DAdSz)

38 All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Any guanciale in the condiment?
Just wondering.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 04:13 PM (24tKv)

39 Thin crust Dominos tonight.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:07 PM (MVjcR)

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just scrape the toppings onto the box: it'll taste the same and you can cut down on carbs...

#Winning!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:14 PM (rjbMC)

40 Brought it up before that homemade beer pizza dough is fantastic.
thebeeroness.com/2012/11/29/beer-pizza-dough/

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 04:14 PM (T4oHT)

41
Had my first calzone when stationed in Germany.

Tasty!

Posted by: Spun & Murky at September 23, 2018 04:14 PM (4DCSq)

42 Mmmmmm, Calzones.

Love them over pizza and seek them out in Italian restaurants.

Have made them too. Fun stuff. Delicious.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:13 PM (2I4LM)

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Yep. I have now decided that I am ordering a sausage calzone with extra sauce for dinner tonight. Haven't had one in forever.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 04:15 PM (I16G8)

43 I've found it interesting that when one reaches a certain level of skill in the kitchen, failures, generally, are still edible.


Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 04:15 PM (WEBkv)

44 Thin crust pizza we get from the mom and pop place down the street. $5.75 for a large on Mondays. It's good too.

Deep dish pizza we get at Gino's East, downtown on the waterfront. It's nice to watch the sailboats and eat real sausage-patty pizza.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:15 PM (lwiT4)

45 I've learned the hard way not to discuss apples with bluebell.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (MVjcR)

46 Panzarotti > calzones

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (DAdSz)

47 I hate popular places.

Besides, nobody goes there; it's always too crowded.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (4HMW8)

48 "Peccorino Romano" sounds like an unflattering personal epithet.

It's good though! (but only one 'c')

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (y87Qq)

49 Broccoli rabe.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (C1PQi)

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Yeah, somehow, broccoli anything and pizza just aren't a combination.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (WEBkv)

50 38 All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

Any guanciale in the condiment?
Just wondering.
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Nope. This time it's pasta with sardines, lemon, dill, and capers.

Actually, I'm just cooking the pasta today, I'm not hungry enough to make dinner.

But this is my first time making bocatini and it has girth and good mouth feel. Me likee!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (kQs4Y)

51 Frozen dough from the grocery store is a great invention.
Posted by: Grump928
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On multiple occasions people have complimented my pie crust. I ain't proud, "Pillsbury refrigerated", I reply.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (1iicH)

52 I smoked a halibut fillet a couple of days ago. It ended a little too dry but tasty nonetheless.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (nBr1j)

53 And pizza sauce:

Heat the pan to high, put in some oil, a couple crushed cloves of garlic, half a diced onion and cook it until the onion is translucent.
At this point you can add sausage and fry that too.

I also add a chili, right now for example the cayennes are getting red so I am using one of those.

Then take two or three tomatoes from the garden, cut the stem out, and chop or crush them into the pan and add basil and cilantro (to taste) and let it cook down to a paste over a low heat.

Then you can put anything on you want for toppings.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (mUa7G)

54 I did not understand and am frightened by these words, "steaks in a low-temperature oven."

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (Z9C5C)

55 What is the difference between a Calzone and a Stromboli?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (yQpMk)

56 Funny thing is I like the Chef Boyardee pizza kit. the dough has a nice taste and texture, and the sauce is excellent, not ketchup-y. Even the little pepperonis are good. Of course I always add more cheese and meat, but it's a good semi-homemade pie. And cheap.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bro Hug Guy at September 23, 2018 04:18 PM (An2kO)

57 45 I've learned the hard way not to discuss apples with bluebell.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (MVjcR)
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KP duty with a spork?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 04:18 PM (WEBkv)

58 Eris.....bucatini is excellent for carbonara. And yes with guanciale.

bluebell.....the pizza stone does great on the grill. I can get it up to about 600 degrees.

We haven't had apples for four years. So while I am glad we do have some, there is a lot of work involved. We were lucky to score a cider press. For HARD cider

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (c1nDO)

59 My favorite pizza to make is a white pizza. And it's really, really good if you make your own ricotta from the recipe CBD linked to in a food thread once, long ago.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (C1PQi)

60 mostaccioli house here.
i think it's because that's what i grew up with.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (1YQLC)

61 I'd like to know why Mama Celeste stopped making the Supreme pizza in large size.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (MVjcR)

62 17 Thin crust Dominos tonight.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:07 PM (MVjcR)

Yum!

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (6Zmow)

63 I have a Calabrian cookbook that suggests using unglazed quarry tile from Lowes to cook pizza and bread on. Anyone have any experience with these? I always thought unglazed meant lead in your food.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (K22Va)

64 Deep dish pizza we get at Gino's East, downtown on the waterfront. It's nice to watch the sailboats and eat real sausage-patty pizza.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:15 PM (lwiT4)

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My go to when in Chicago is the original Uno's or Due's. Always get a small deep dish, sausage, extra sauce. I sit at the bar and the same bartender always tells me I want a personal, not a small.

No, no I don't.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (I16G8)

65 My favorite pizza to make is a white pizza.

White Pizza is my exception to the No-vegetarian food rule.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (yQpMk)

66 Dominos has a deal, too. $5.99 for a two topping large but you have to go get it.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (MVjcR)

67 I've learned the hard way not to discuss apples with bluebell.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (MVjcR)
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It's funny - earlier today I was remembering that I got you to agree that Stayman apples are the best, but I can't remember how I did that, other than by giving you some.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (C1PQi)

68 Oh wait, I made you an apple pie, too!

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (C1PQi)

69 when I have left over frozen pizza, it goes in a corning-ware dish with the pieces stacked with the faces together ... then when I eat it later, it is corzone ... a miracle.

But it would be better if I added some ricotta perhaps ... will have to try that. and pineapple ...

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (Cus5s)

70 I used to make pizza from the Chef Boyardi kit when the kids were little. Always a favorite dinner.

I also used to sew mine and their clothes.

Now adays, we buy all of our clothes off the rack and order out for the pizza.

We've evolved.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (6Zmow)

71 67 I've learned the hard way not to discuss apples with bluebell.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (MVjcR)
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It's funny - earlier today I was remembering that I got you to agree that Stayman apples are the best, but I can't remember how I did that, other than by giving you some.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (C1PQi)
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Well I remember! The ones you gave me were in a pie, and you threatened to shim me.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (MVjcR)

72 Going vegan is a big missed-steak.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (4HMW8)

73 I tried the reverse sear method probably a year ago or so... and I have to say that the steaks turned out really well.

That said, it feels weird to put steak in the oven. I prefer to grill, so I usually just do my normal method on the gas grill and live with a small layer of overcooked meat.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (GBteo)

74 What is the difference between a Calzone and a Stromboli?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (yQpMk)

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Sauce on the outside vs. Sauce baked inside.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (I16G8)

75 Being from NJ I find it amazing that anyone orders pizza from any chain?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:22 PM (Ydx5u)

76 Lighthouse pizza on Tybee Island is pretty good. We always have some when we're there.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 04:22 PM (6Zmow)

77 What is the difference between a Calzone and a Stromboli?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (yQpMk)


They both did commedia dell'arte, but Stromboli was a better director, over all.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 04:22 PM (mUa7G)

78 Mmmm, white pizza!
We sometimes make that with caramelized onions on top, and then thinly sliced tomatoes put on ~5 min before it's done cooking.r

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:23 PM (W+vEI)

79 White Pizza is my exception to the No-vegetarian food rule.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (yQpMk)
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As much of a carnivore as I am, and I am, I don't really care for meat on pizza. I really don't like pepperoni at all, but I will eat sausage if that's what other people want.

For a red sauce pizza, my favorite toppings are onion, mushroom and bell pepper. And molto formaggio.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:23 PM (C1PQi)

80 ALH - my mom sewed all our clothes too. Do many people sew anymore? We used to have to learn the basics in Home-Ec, but they don't have that anymore.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:23 PM (lwiT4)

81 But this is my first time making bocatini and it has girth and good mouth feel. Me likee!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (kQs4Y)


ISTR Navy spaghetti (NSN 8920-98-107-1171) was bucatinoid. Someone told me it boiled faster.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (y87Qq)

82 What's a white pizza?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)

83 66 Dominos has a deal, too. $5.99 for a two topping large but you have to go get it.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (MVjcR)


I hate to be a snob, but I can't stand the national pizza chains. It's drunk college food.

There's nothing I love more than a good pizza, but I feel like most pizza is not good pizza, so I largely just ... don't eat pizza.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (GBteo)

84 Welcome to autumn everyone and, I hope, cooler and dryer weather. That prospect makes me think in terms of bread baking, making soup of various kinds, and tea.

I generally like Tetley British Blend for a black tea or good Irish Breakfast tea. I picked up some of the Celestial Seasonings Sleepytime Extra today Fenelon suggested and will try that tonight.

Do Hordlings have teas they especially enjoy? The topic doesn't come up often like coffee preferences.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (V+03K)

85 82 What's a white pizza?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)
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Privileged.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (MVjcR)

86

Thought I would toss this out there.

The price of groceries has just been climbing. Out of control, really. Hubby told me to get ready for higher prices - probably due to trade wars, who knows. Just an excuse in my mind.

Smaller packaging with higher price points.
Pay for grocery bags or bring your own.
Produce has been insane in my part of the world, and it's the bulk of my grocery shopping.

I've taken two actions to help.

Joined my local grocer's points program;
and found a credit card that gives me money back for certain categories, one of which was "Groceries". It's a percentage of how much I spend.

Works out pretty well. Money back for buying groceries without any work is great. There is always more you can do. One of my sisters still coupon clips and there are all of those coupon sites out there to look through. I don't always find Costco a good deal if I can get it on sale in my local grocer. I don't like to go to more than one store. I have no idea how good Amazon is.

Here are a couple links that might help:

10 grocery savings secrets from supermarket insiders
https://tinyurl.com/yctqa9c9

U.S. Coupon Market Trends - Statistics & Facts
https://tinyurl.com/ybatcyft
(fairly recent stats)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (2I4LM)

87 80 ALH - my mom sewed all our clothes too. Do many people sew anymore? We used to have to learn the basics in Home-Ec, but they don't have that anymore.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:23 PM (lwiT4)

I had to take Home Ec.

We sewed something. A pillow or something. I forget. IDK, the guys did not want to be in home ec, and the girls did not like shop class.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (GBteo)

88 Well I remember! The ones you gave me were in a pie, and you threatened to shim me.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (MVjcR)
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But I think I got you to agree to it on a food thread, before I made you the pie. I laid it out as a condition for something, and you folded like a cheap suit.

Can't remember what the something was, however. I wonder if it was cookbook-related.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (C1PQi)

89 Do many people sew anymore? We used to have to learn the basics in Home-Ec, but they don't have that anymore.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:23 PM (lwiT4)

I don't think many do. The cost of fabric and patterns means it's less expensive to buy ready-made. I bought 2 t-shirts on clearance at Wal-mart last week for $1 each.
On a side note - Trump is right to do the tariffs.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (6Zmow)

90 What's a white pizza?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)

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No tomato based sauce.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (I16G8)

91 Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (MVjcR)


Har dee har

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

92 >>Being from NJ I find it amazing that anyone orders pizza from any chain?



Papa Gino's in MA (pizza chain) is known for its great crust - better than any mom 'n pop place in my town. So, that's where we order from if not making it at home. My kid loves Dominos (yuk) and Little Caesars (blech!) so I will get that for him.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (W+vEI)

93 The Dominoes pizza here blew chunks until it finally went out of business.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (mpXpK)

94 ou folded like a cheap suit.

Can't remember what the something was, however. I wonder if it was cookbook-related.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (C1PQi)
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Death by shimming!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (MVjcR)

95

No tomato based sauce.


Then just stuff on bread?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (lwiT4)

96 "Steaks in a low-temperature oven" is called roast.

I love them
both, steaks and roast, but let's not get all googly-eyed when I remind
you that a steak is a slab of meat you throw an an open flame, son!

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (Z9C5C)

97 Dominos has a deal, too. $5.99 for a two topping large but you have to go get it.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:20 PM (MVjcR)
Hmmm... my son requested Domino's tonight. Wasn't going to, but just might for that deal (though he only eats cheese pizza). Luckily our Domino's is only a couple miles away, so picking it up is no big deal.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (+F0Wk)

98 Being from NJ I find it amazing that anyone orders pizza from any chain?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:22 PM (Ydx5u)


Domino's is a decent, predictable pizza if you aren't in an area that has a good local place, or if you haven't found a favorite place and just want a pizza. It's much better than it used to be. Some of the local places here are amazing and some are abysmal and you can't tell which is which until you've tried it or asked around.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (y87Qq)

99 I like calzones. I miss Pizza Hut's take on them. A lot of food for the money.

Yesterday was bliss. I'm working this weekend so we treated ourselves to some steak at John Howie in Bellevue.

14 oz, thick, prime New York Strip, perfectly med rare.

Bliss. Pure meat bliss.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, well-armed dreg of society at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (xJa6I)

100 "What's a white pizza?"

OK

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (UdKB7)

101 What's a white pizza?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)
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grammie, it's pizza with no red sauce, only cheese, usually several kinds. Mine has ricotta, asiago, Parmesan, and mozzarella on it.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:28 PM (C1PQi)

102 75 Being from NJ I find it amazing that anyone orders pizza from any chain?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:22 PM (Ydx5u)

At like 3 AM, after the bars all closed, when I was in college, Dominoes seemed like a good idea.

Since then? Yuck.

Papa Gino's in MA (pizza chain) is known for its great crust - better than any mom 'n pop place in my town. So, that's where we order from if not making it at home. My kid loves Dominos (yuk) and Little Caesars (blech!) so I will get that for him.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (W+vEI)

The only Papa Gino's I've been to is at a rest stop on the Mass Pike, and I was not impressed. But it was reheated. And at a rest stop. And on the Mass Pike.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:28 PM (GBteo)

103 Then just stuff on bread?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (lwiT4)

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Pretty much. Some people use Alfredo or other white sauce. To me, not pizza.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 04:29 PM (I16G8)

104 my favorite tea is sweet & spicy.

Posted by: concrete girl at September 23, 2018 04:29 PM (1YQLC)

105 What's a white pizza?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)

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Racist, of course.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:29 PM (rjbMC)

106 I had Home Ec. but it's not taught anymore.


Then Martha Stewart came along and made what is essentially Home Ec glamourous, and monetized the heck out of the need for this information that's no longer taught in school.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:29 PM (W+vEI)

107 Grammie, I do a certain amount of modification on dress shirt collars, trouser cuffs, repairs, and I sew my own pillow cases out of worn out sheets.

The collars are the most fun, when my collar wears out and gets too shabby for office wear, I pick out the seams on the collar and re-sew it as a nehru type collar.

Granted, I can't wear dark crew-necked sweaters because people start eyeing me in stores like they should call me "father" but other than that it is fine, and saves me the cost of a new shirt for a year or so.

I did sew a cape for a friend's daughter once. That was fun and simple, but unfortunately I made it too big and her shoulders would slip through the neck-hole unless she wore the hood up -- it was the only thing that would keep it on her.

I hope she grows into it.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (mUa7G)

108 Pic #2 looks like a telescope shot of something orbiting in the Oort Cloud.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (CPfoe)

109 Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 04:27 PM (UdKB7)


I'm definitely not a foodie

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (lwiT4)

110

I've been reading about a lot of morons are either battling cancer, or have loved ones with cancer.

Although I use the Prescription for Nutritional Healing book for most of my nutritional advice, a friend who has been suffering from both breast and colon cancer sent me this.

7 of the Best Heart-Healthy Foods That Also Prevent Cancer
https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/heart-healthy-foods/

Who knows what works, if anything, but it's always worth a try.

I eat everything in this list anyway, pretty regularly.

Prescription for Nutritional Healing
Fifth Edition: A Practical A-to-Z Reference to Drug-Free Remedies Using Vitamins, Minerals, Herbs and Food ... A-To-Z Reference to Drug-Free Remedies
by Phyllis A. Balch CNC
Link: http://a.co/d/2TgxmSQ

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (2I4LM)

111 grammie, you and your ipad and the Rev come visit me, and I'll make you one. I usually make them every Friday because it's just my husband, my two boys and me at home now, and that's what they want. It's an easy way to keep them happy.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (C1PQi)

112 Best pizza in the world is made at Denino's Tavern in Port Richmond in Staten Island.
Posted by: Publius Redux at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (TcePY)


Boston's, Aiea/Pearlridge.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:31 PM (y87Qq)

113 Oh, and the top pizza looks fine, other than the bizarre mention of broccoli. I usually pre-bake my crust for about a minute before, so the crust doesn't get as soaked.

I've also found that a generous dusting of corn meal on the peel gets the dough to slide off every time. Alternatively, use parchment paper. I did that for a long while. Just slide the parchment paper with the pizza onto the stone, let it bake for a few minutes, then pull the parchment paper out (it's generally not recommended for the temps you need to cook a pizza).

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:31 PM (+F0Wk)

114 Se Pennsylvania you can walk from non pizza chain store to the next

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 04:31 PM (T4oHT)

115 What's a white pizza?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)

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It's the pizza that has an unfair life advantage over the pizzas with darker colors.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (CPfoe)

116 >> But it was reheated. And at a rest stop. And on the Mass Pike.


Is rest stop food ever good?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (W+vEI)

117 PEPPERONI ARE PEOPLE TOO, BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE FROM ANIMALS AND ANIMALS ARE PEOPLE TOO, SO THEREFORE PEPPERONI ARE PEOPLE AS WELL AS US!!!!

Posted by: PETA at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (Ldr3U)

118 111 grammie, you and your ipad and the Rev come visit me, and I'll make you one. I usually make them every Friday because it's just my husband, my two boys and me at home now, and that's what they want. It's an easy way to keep them happy.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:30 PM (C1PQi)



Oh thank you! That would be great, cuz I don't cook on Fridays.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (lwiT4)

119 I'm not a food snob, unless you count Heinz ketchup and Miracle Whip.
I can pretty much do generic for most everything else.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (6Zmow)

120 Is rest stop food ever good?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (W+vEI)

Not in my experience, no.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (GBteo)

121 A calzone is a pizza folded over end of story..it is tasty with a decent crust and sauce though...what would you buggers know......

Posted by: saf at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (5IHGB)

122 A non food request for the praying types-

A guy at work that has battled skin cancer for as long as I can remember who's wife is also fighting her own cancer battle had an accident at his home last week.

He was mowing his back yard on a pretty good slope when he and the ztr mower tumbled down the hill. Long story short- his wife called me the next day from the er. They were waiting for him to be admitted. Broken hip on the right side and ligament damage in his left knee.

The kicker? Xray of his chest for broken ribs showed no broken ribs but it did show a spot on his lung. He didn't want me to know but she thought I should so she told me on the phone outside his presence.

I went to see him in the hospital the next day. He looked like an old man dying in the hospital. FFS he was just mowing the grass!

Anyway, if you could spare a thought for my friend "Mr. Shakey" or his wife Angela I'd appreciate it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (oLJm4)

123 Panzarotti > calzones

What's a really fast tank have to do with pizza?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 23, 2018 04:34 PM (naEeR)

124 He was mowing his back yard on a pretty good slope when he and the ztr mower tumbled down the hill. Long story short- his wife called me the next day from the er. They were waiting for him to be admitted. Broken hip on the right side and ligament damage in his left knee.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (oLJm4)

Jeez. So sorry to hear about your friend.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:34 PM (GBteo)

125 Reverse sear?

No thanks. My steak requires nothing more than a cast iron skillet.

Get it hot. Really hot. Very very hot. Steak in the pan 90 seconds on each side, then 2 minutes each side in a 500 degree oven.

Let the steak rest for about 3-5 minutes.

A inch-and-a-half steak comes out medium rare.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 23, 2018 04:34 PM (Uiz/V)

126 I would recommend Bols curacao over the 40 proof commodity triple sec offerings, it's much better at about the same price point.

Pierre Ferrand dry curacao is very good, as is Senior (actually bottled on Curacao) but Senior is not dry. Clement Creole Shrubb is rum-based and is my first choice when making tiki cocktails that call for curacao.

You can also use Grand Marnier or Cointreau if you don't mind a bit of extra kick from their higher proofs.

Posted by: Top.Man. at September 23, 2018 04:34 PM (88slR)

127 Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (oLJm4)


Absolutely. My gosh that's awful.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:35 PM (lwiT4)

128 Oh no, weirdflunky, how very sad. Of course I will pray for them. Some people just seem to get hit very hard. I will pray for healing and comfort and patience for all.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:35 PM (C1PQi)

129 Weirdflunky, I hope your friend is OK.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 23, 2018 04:36 PM (Uiz/V)

130 When I was a kid it was mostly Italian around here. There were so many good little pizza places that made different tasting pizzas, it was hard to pick a place to eat. Now there is one left, same place 42 years and his pizza is the same as it was back when.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 04:36 PM (K22Va)

131 how does one talk a man down from a pizza?...I say JUMP on it and devour ya lazy arsed refuzenick may the sauce be with you....

Posted by: saf at September 23, 2018 04:37 PM (5IHGB)

132 Is rest stop food ever good?

Italian truck stop sandwiches are amazing. Made fresh every day, high quality ingredients, the whole deal. The rest of the building is standard truck stop -- including country and western CDs for sale -- but the sandwiches...

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 23, 2018 04:37 PM (naEeR)

133 Grilled a hamburger for lunch today. I have been sprinkling my burgers with beef rubs I have laying around. We particularly like one that is supposed to be used for steaks, and then I add some fresh pepper and salt. Some Swiss cheese melted on top, lettuce, tomato, and I even sliced up some kosher dill pickles for crunch and added flavor. Condiments. Delicious.

Tonight leftover from last night: Curry with pork, eggplant, mushrooms, and green beans. Coconut milk, fish sauce, and Yellow Curry paste, a handful of basil. Simmered with some chicken broth too. Jasmine rice.

Pretty easy all in the wok - veggies first in coconut oil, then simmer a bit with the liquids and basil chopped up. Had the perfect amount of heat.

Speaking of coconut oil. Has been getting a bad rap, so here's a counter point:

https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/is-coconut-oil-healthy/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:37 PM (2I4LM)

134 A large, extra greasy, deep dish pizza is perfect for if you want something small to get the taste of lard out of your mouth after a meal.

*kisses fingers*

Perfection!

Posted by: Massive Marxist Momzer, Michael Moore at September 23, 2018 04:38 PM (Ldr3U)

135 Is rest stop food ever good?



Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (W+vEI)
------------------------Not a rest stop exactly, but my sister lives in a very small town. They order their pizza from the local gas station. As pizzas go, it's not too bad.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:39 PM (+F0Wk)

136 What's a really fast tank have to do with pizza?
LOL

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:39 PM (DAdSz)

137 Ye Gods, how did I live all these years unaware of bucatini?

It's the best!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:39 PM (kQs4Y)

138 If you want to make mini pizzas for the kids use English Muffins their perfect for this

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (FLiOE)

139 Oh, I like to grill pizza. Very easy and you get this crispy tender crust. Dayum.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (Uiz/V)

140 I will pray for healing and comfort and patience for all.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:35 PM (C1PQi)

Thanks to you all. Yes, bb their lives have been filled with horror. They lost a daughter years ago when she fell off the hotel balcony on spring break. The wife has had more surgeries for her cancer than I can count. Not to mention his skin cancer. How they haven't already said f it, I don't know.

If anyone could get word to FS I would appreciate that too. I think she's on better terms with the Bossman than I am.

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (oLJm4)

141 O/T. Has every division clinched except the NL Central? Are we the only stragglers?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (lwiT4)

142 What's a white pizza?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:24 PM (lwiT4)


Usually a white sauce, and in my mind, the best with garlic.

A white sauced, spinach and garlic is heaven.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:41 PM (2I4LM)

143 If anyone could get word to FS I would appreciate that too. I think she's on better terms with the Bossman than I am.
Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (oLJm4)


fenelon direction 18 circle 'a' gmail dot com

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:41 PM (y87Qq)

144 Aw jeez flunky, prayers ascending!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:41 PM (kQs4Y)

145 Is rest stop food ever good?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (W+vEI)


No but it depends on how hungry and desperate you are and of course if they have a Chick Fil A then yes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:41 PM (Ydx5u)

146 Do Hordlings have teas they especially enjoy? The topic doesn't come up often like coffee preferences.
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I love green tea with spearmint, especially for iced tea, unsweetened. When I am sick, I love the same as a hot steamy drink. Black tea with spearmint (Tetley's I think) is good too. But I really like the green better.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (MIKMs)

147 Anyone who uses anything besides well-seasoned cast iron and high heat is full of crap. Not that I have a strong opinion on the matter.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (V+03K)

148 No but it depends on how hungry and desperate you are and of course if they have a Chick Fil A then yes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:41 PM (Ydx5u)

I seem to only drive by Chik Fil A's on Sundays.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (GBteo)

149 I love white sauce!

Posted by: SHEPPIE at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (Ldr3U)

150 weirdflunky - wow. I will certainly pray.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (lwiT4)

151 If you want to make mini pizzas for the kids use English Muffins their perfect for this

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (FLiOE)

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We used to make those. Usually with spaghetti sauce and cheese.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (+F0Wk)

152 110 artisanal ette. One does need to be careful with certain foods when on Chemo. Some herbals, supplements and foods can either cancel out the medication or make it over reactive. It is a great plan of attack to use nutrition as another weapon against cancer.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:43 PM (DAdSz)

153 O/T. Has every division clinched except the NL Central? Are we the only stragglers?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:40 PM (lwiT4)


The NL West is still not decided. The Dodgers have 1.5 game lead. The AL West isn't either. Houston is up 3.5 games

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 04:43 PM (SiINZ)

154 I get frustrated with rest stops. They all tend to have chain restaurants. On a road trip I like to find hole in the wall joints that are 10-15 miles away from the Interstate.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 23, 2018 04:43 PM (Uiz/V)

155 I'm a big 3 Stooges fan. Anytime I use the oven without blowing up the house is a win.

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 04:44 PM (FhXTo)

156 Thanks TheQuietMan. I was starting to get a complex.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:44 PM (lwiT4)

157 Is rest stop food ever good?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (W+vEI)

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Sometimes. There used to be a great breakfast buffet place at a rest stop off of I-65 in Indiana. Pro tip: Look for the crowded parking lots.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 04:44 PM (I16G8)

158 I seem to only drive by Chik Fil A's on Sundays.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:42 PM (GBteo)

LOL...yes I used to also...seems i was always coming back from somewhere on a Sunday, but lately I have been going on Tuesdays and have eaten at them.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:45 PM (Ydx5u)

159 154 I get frustrated with rest stops. They all tend to have chain restaurants. On a road trip I like to find hole in the wall joints that are 10-15 miles away from the Interstate.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 23, 2018 04:43 PM (Uiz/V)

Usually I just drink water and eat Rx bars.

But I also feel like I need to set a record every time I take a road trip. "Yeah, I can drive to Southern Florida in 24 hours straight, only stopping to get gas ever 375 miles. No problem."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 04:45 PM (GBteo)

160 I generally like Tetley British Blend for a black tea or good Irish Breakfast tea.
Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 04:25 PM (V+03K)


If you like ordinary British-style black teas, see if you can find PG Tips in your area. It's in the international aisle at Meijer (not the tea aisle) and World Market has it, otherwise you can order it. It's the tea version of diner coffee, not fancy, just really good.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:45 PM (y87Qq)

161 PEPPERONI ARE PEOPLE TOO, BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE FROM ANIMALS AND ANIMALS
ARE PEOPLE TOO, SO THEREFORE PEPPERONI ARE PEOPLE AS WELL AS US!!!!

Posted by: PETA at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (Ldr3U)
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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A MEME HERE!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 23, 2018 04:46 PM (rjbMC)

162
Broccoli rabe.



Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:09 PM (C1PQi)

Yum! Yum!...big in Italy too.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 23, 2018 04:46 PM (3SzRC)

163 Is rest stop food ever good?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (W+vEI)

I recall there being a rest stop/buffet with pretty decent food somewhere in New Mexico.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2018 04:47 PM (Ldr3U)

164 147 .. I should have specified that is for steak. It can also double for treating wounds. "Slap hot iron to it."

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 04:47 PM (V+03K)

165 Okay, here is where I display midwestern ignorance -- I prefer Jiffy Mix for pizza dough (and pretty much every other kind of bread). Easy, fast, no frills. Less than half the price of other premixed baking stuff and the recipes on the back are doable even for baking-impaired me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 04:47 PM (MIKMs)

166 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A MEME HERE!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 23, 2018 04:46 PM (rjbMC)


BEING A MEME HERE, BOSS

Posted by: HQ MEME TRANSPORTER ACCIDENT at September 23, 2018 04:47 PM (y87Qq)

167 Michael Moores Anti-Trump Fahrenheit 11/9 Falls Flat At Box Office

Weasel Zippers

That is about the only thing that is flat on moore

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:48 PM (Ydx5u)

168 Back around 2001, I was doing some vineyard tours while considering becoming a small producer, maybe 3-5 acres of grapes. The state was pushing a program for growers, trying to establish some alternative incomes for more rural areas, and had a couple viticulturists traveling the state.

One wine maker had grown up in France on a vineyard, and had won national awards after he became the vintner for some company in Wisconsin. (point being, good grapes are important, but not necessarily dependent on region)
But Bruce Bordelon (horticulturalist from Purdue) was there for a meeting, said the main thing we (the region) needed was more experienced wine makers. The Midwest can certainly grow good grapes, even if they are hybrids of the tradionals (e.g. Traminette takes some of the Gewurztraminer traits, but endures the cold winter)

Not being a wine drinker, I don't recognize any of those name linked above. But I've been of the opinion that the region is less important that the craftsmanship of making the wine. And marketing is equally important. California has established its own respectability now, and Illinois could do that. Upstate NY has some growers, many other states as well.

But a good "Bordeaux" will automatically sell better than a good "Adams County" for now. Those blind tests though, tend to show a lot of $10 wines tested equally to the $40 ones, even to the "refined" palette.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 04:48 PM (Cus5s)

169 CBD has a 6 burner stove.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 04:10 PM (DAdSz)

Five burner KitchenAid....the one in the middle is a long one for a griddle.

And a convection oven, which is a wonderful invention!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:48 PM (wYseH)

170 artisanal 'ette, I like coconut oil too. I'm a big believer in food helping to heal the body. That's not to say that medicine doesn't have its place - of course it does! But I think a good diet is always going to be beneficial.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:49 PM (C1PQi)

171 The price of groceries has just been climbing

All that easing had to go somewhere.

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 04:49 PM (FhXTo)

172 Okay, here is where I display midwestern ignorance -- I prefer Jiffy Mix for pizza dough (and pretty much every other kind of bread). Easy, fast, no frills. Less than half the price of other premixed baking stuff and the recipes on the back are doable even for baking-impaired me.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 04:47 PM (MIKMs)

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We used to use that. Made a great crust, but thedough was unbelievably sticky.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:49 PM (+F0Wk)

173 (but only one 'c')

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:16 PM (y87Qq)

Thank you!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:49 PM (wYseH)

174 Michael Moores Anti-Trump Fahrenheit 11/9 Falls Flat At Box Office

Weasel Zippers

That is about the only thing that is flat on moore
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 04:48 PM (Ydx5u)

Tires seem to go flat in just about every vehicle I ride in, can never figure out why.

Posted by: Massive Marxist Momzer Michael Moore at September 23, 2018 04:50 PM (Ldr3U)

175 >>>It tasted okay, although the broccoli rabe I used was too bitter and astringent

I love the bitter taste of broccoli rabe. You can never have too much broccoli rabe.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 04:50 PM (/qEW2)

176 Been practicing for the 1st Annual BBQ cook off at the VFW here in November on Veterans Day weekend. Two categories, ribs and brisket. I am only doing ribs as the mistakes are not as expensive as ruining a whole brisket. Pork Spareribs only.


Settled on a mild rub with salt, pepper and brown sugar and a touch of paprika for some color. Into the pellet smoker for 2 hours at 225. Take them out and put some Sweet Baby Rays BBQ sauce on them and wrap them in foil, toss them on the smoker for another 2 hours at 225.


For the final hour I pull them out of the foil, put a bit more BBQ sauce on them and lay them meat side up on the smoker rack for about another hour checking every 15-20 minutes or so for doneness. Can't let them get fall off the bone done for the competition though.


I have to say they are the best ribs I have ever done and it only took 6 tries to get it right.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (JUOKG)

177 I prefer Jiffy Mix for pizza dough (and pretty much every other kind of bread).
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 04:47 PM (MIKMs)


:3

The MiMoMe will be held in the blessed shadow of the Jiffy silos.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (y87Qq)

178 Ive had the grilled chik sangwich and the fried chix sangwich.

Which is better. I like them both
Do they have a secret menu?

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (/n4/h)

179 Who's up for shirako pizza?

https://tinyurl.com/y8qkl7eb

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (kQs4Y)

180 If you like ordinary British-style black teas, see if you can find PG Tips in your area. It's in the international aisle at Meijer (not the tea aisle) and World Market has it, otherwise you can order it. It's the tea version of diner coffee, not fancy, just really good.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:45 PM (y87Qq)

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DANGER DANGER - the PG Tips they sell here is not the same as the British version. If you look on Amazon you can see plenty of Brits complaining about it. To get the good stuff you have to get it from the UK via mail order. Or, you can go there if you'd rather.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (C1PQi)

181 What to Drink Next: Trust These Names in Wine

Nice list.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (2I4LM)

182 Did the food thread disappear for anyone else, or was it just me? It was only for about 10 seconds, but it was very disconcerting!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+F0Wk)

183 When I go to wine tastings, I invariably like the hobo-priced wine more than the expensive stuff. Last one we went to, I got a glass of some kind of red, smelled it and refused to drink it, it smelled so nasty. It was $150 a bottle.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (lwiT4)

184 A Brit friend turned me on to Tetley's "Tyhooo" tea. Wonderful.


Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (3HNOQ)

185 Weirdflunky- that is terrible, for Mr Shakey praying God is watching over you and your wife.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (T4oHT)

186 Honey, hide the wicker furniture, Michael is coming over for a visit.

Posted by: Michael Moore's Mom at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (An2kO)

187 Did the food thread disappear for anyone else, or was it just me? It was only for about 10 seconds, but it was very disconcerting!
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+F0Wk)
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He does that periodically just to mess with us.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (C1PQi)

188 170 artisanal 'ette, I like coconut oil too. I'm a big believer in food helping to heal the body. That's not to say that medicine doesn't have its place - of course it does! But I think a good diet is always going to be beneficial.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:49 PM (C1PQi)

You get a hearty amen from me.

With a family loaded with food allergies, we tend to be restricted in what we eat, but when we stick with those foods, we all feel good, which is a rare and beautiful thing. Grilled chicken or salmon, chicken roasted with schmaltz (oh my goodness), plenty of fresh veggies and fruits? Yes.

Do we go off diet? Yep. Do we pay? Yep. Sometimes it's worth it, although more and more, husband and I tend to agree that it's not.

And root vegetables cooked with good meat is a gift from the Almighty. Just sayin.

Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (mFoNl)

189 182 Did the food thread disappear for anyone else, or was it just me? It was only for about 10 seconds, but it was very disconcerting!
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+F0Wk)
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Nope, nothing strange going on here!

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (kQs4Y)

190 Did the food thread disappear for anyone else, or was it just me? It was only for about 10 seconds, but it was very disconcerting!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+F0Wk)


Yes, it disappeared completely

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (SiINZ)

191 Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (oLJm4)


forwarded to FenSpoke for the prayer list.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (rjbMC)

192 My husband owned a pizza restaurant eons ago. He can actually spin it in the air like in the old movies. He knows his pizza.

We both prefer a thinner crispy crust, but have made all varieties at home. We haven't found much difference in dough recipes, so it's mostly execution.

That said, here are his tips:

1. Small amount of fennel seed in the sauce. Don't over fuss with it otherwise.
2. Secret ingredient? Muenster cheese in the cheese mix. Trust me. You'll be amazed.
3. Sweat any veggies before using them as toppings. Especially fresh mushrooms. They exude an amazing amount of water when cooking.
4. Particularly if you like it on the crispy side, partly cook the crust on one or both sides before topping.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (S+f+m)

193 Typhoo.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (3HNOQ)

194 DANGER DANGER - the PG Tips they sell here is not the same as the British version. If you look on Amazon you can see plenty of Brits complaining about it. To get the good stuff you have to get it from the UK via mail order. Or, you can go there if you'd rather.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (C1PQi)


Whooooah I did not know that, thank you.

An English housemate introduced me to PG Tips* when he complained to his mom about American teas and she sent him an emergency resupply. World Market started carrying it shortly after and he never complained, and I've been ordering the big boxes online and never noticed anything odd. If it isn't as good as UK PG Tips, it's still way better than the ordinary US teas.

* yeah, "introduced me to the tips", laugh it up, jerks

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (y87Qq)

195 Bluebell, You mentioned using some white balsamic with peach vinegar recently. By any chance is it by Taste of the Old Country? They operate in our town and we have that balsamic. It has a fantastic, fresh taste, not overly heavy like some examples.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (V+03K)

196
Did the food thread disappear for anyone else, or was it just me?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+F0Wk)

I have no idea what you are talking about.

SHUT UP! LEAVE ME ALONE!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:55 PM (wYseH)

197 I have to say they are the best ribs I have ever done and it only took 6 tries to get it right.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 04:51 PM (JUOKG)


Wow. Sounds good.

I experimented with a marinade and then a sauce to meld or offset the marinade. Same for me, been working out well. Complex flavors.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:55 PM (2I4LM)

198 gotta go play with power tools...

BBL.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 04:55 PM (rjbMC)

199 I live here in Eastern North Carolina; a lot of places just got their power back on from Hurricane Florence, but a lot of them, including a Papa Johns I used to moonlight at, went without for quite a while. Any idea what pizza dough looks like after being in a warm, dark room for four days? I stopped by to say hi to my old GM, and I could see pizza dough oozing from the door of the walk in fridge. She was scraping it off the floor with a spatula and her bare hands. Good times.

Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (2shuf)

200 Five burner KitchenAid....the one in the middle is a long one for a griddle.

And a convection oven, which is a wonderful invention!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:48 PM (wYseH)

Have you seen the 100th anniversary range Kitchenaid is featuring? It's tiffany blue, and gorgeous. I keep telling my better half that if he buys it for me, the quality of our food will be sooooo much better...

Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (mFoNl)

201 Did the food thread disappear for anyone else, or was it just me?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (+F0Wk)

I have no idea what you are talking about.

SHUT UP! LEAVE ME ALONE!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:55 PM (wYseH)


eek, cbd resorting to shadow-banning us now?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (2I4LM)

202 There were only chain pizza places here, so I tried various pizza crust recipes, found one we really liked, and finally had good pizza again. Then a bar in town remodeled and added a brick oven pizza. I haven't made my own in awhile. Pizza has become the running too late to cook or just don't feel like cooking option.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (Rz2Nc)

203 Posted by: weirdflunky at September 23, 2018 04:33 PM (oLJm4)

Sending prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 04:57 PM (An2kO)

204 I live here in Eastern North Carolina; a lot of places just got their power back on from Hurricane Florence, but a lot of them, including a Papa Johns I used to moonlight at, went without for quite a while. Any idea what pizza dough looks like after being in a warm, dark room for four days? I stopped by to say hi to my old GM, and I could see pizza dough oozing from the door of the walk in fridge. She was scraping it off the floor with a spatula and her bare hands. Good times.
Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (2shuf)

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I'm sensing a Blob remake

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:57 PM (+F0Wk)

205

back to life here

Bon appetit Y'all

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 23, 2018 04:57 PM (2I4LM)

206 Have you seen the 100th anniversary range Kitchenaid
is featuring? It's tiffany blue, and gorgeous.

Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (mFoNl)

I like my ranges like my women...splattered in bacon grease and tomato sauce.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:58 PM (wYseH)

207 We used to use that. Made a great crust, but thedough was unbelievably sticky.
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Used to have problems with that until my dad told me in his authority voice: olive oil, you stupid twit. (He was always threatening to disown me because I can't cook and can't garden.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 04:58 PM (MIKMs)

208 and I could see pizza dough oozing from the door of the walk in fridge. She was scraping it off the floor with a spatula and her bare hands. Good times.
Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (2shuf)

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I'm sensing a Blob remake
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 04:57 PM (+F0Wk)

This is a very rich target for Michael Moore and Lena Dunham jokes.

I feel dizzy. So many bad jokes...

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 04:59 PM (An2kO)

209 Bluebell, You mentioned using some white balsamic with peach vinegar recently. By any chance is it by Taste of the Old Country? They operate in our town and we have that balsamic. It has a fantastic, fresh taste, not overly heavy like some examples.
Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (V+03K)
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JTB, no it's not, it's from a place called Peppercorn. I bought it in Pennsylvania a couple of weeks ago. The little store only sells balsamic vinegar and olive oil, all from Italy, and infused with different things. Some of the balsamics, like the peach one, are white balsamics - much lighter flavor. But they're all from Modeno.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 04:59 PM (C1PQi)

210 Then just stuff on bread?
Posted by: grammie winger
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Not seeing the problem.

Posted by: Dagwood at September 23, 2018 05:00 PM (1iicH)

211 I could see pizza dough oozing from the door of the walk in fridge. She was scraping it off the floor with a spatula and her bare hands. Good times.
Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 04:56 PM (2shuf)
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Oh my goodness! I'm sure it wasn't funny to her but being far away, I can see the humor in it .

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (C1PQi)

212 Non-sequitur: Just saw a pic of Al Pacino on my start page. Looked liked a DUI mug-shot, but it was a blurb about him having a new girlfriend or something.

Interesting photo choice.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (An2kO)

213 I have a question. So how much time do you figure you spend on average a day, cooking and all? Like prepping, cooking,clean-up, etc?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (lwiT4)

214 If a update is made it freezes for a few seconds. Been caught it it often, rarely it becomes a vortex you think your trapped in and can't get out of.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (T4oHT)

215 Here's a few rum recommendations for your daiquiris
that will make them much better:

1) Bayou Silver Rum - Louisiana based pot-still rum combining molasses and sugar cane juice as the base.

This is the rum they serve in Heaven. Little cherubs fly around your mouth throwing wedding cake, marshmallow cream, butterscotch, Peeps, cream, creme brulee, and mango all over your tongue.

2) Smith & Cross Traditional Jamaica Rum

This rum will make a daiquiri that kicks you in the balls, ravages your sister, steals a 1957 Cadillac convertible and robs a banks.

Huge amount of fruity hogo flavors, esters out the wazoo. This rum was made to duplicate the old style rums of the 1800s. Pirate rum, yo!

You will love it or hate it.

3) Banks 5 Island Rum -

A blend of rums from 5 islands. So, fruity, flavorful, and floral you'll smell it when you open the bottle. Yet, sophisticated and somewhat austere. Really comes alive in a daiquiri - tastes like you made a great tiki drink with only 3 ingredients. Use their daiquiri recipe : 2oz Banks, .75 oz simple syrup, .75 oz fresh lime juice.

Great stuff. This is what James Bond would use were he a daiquiri drinker.

My personal fave.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 05:03 PM (CRRq9)

216 Art rondelet

Good tips.
I love fennel seed as well as all its cousins. Celery, anise, cumin etc.

Thin crust and not soggy is good!

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 05:03 PM (/n4/h)

217 Five burner KitchenAid....the one in the middle is a long one for a griddle.

And a convection oven, which is a wonderful invention!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 04:48 PM (wYseH)

My wife has a phone and saint for a husband

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 05:03 PM (Ydx5u)

218 In the shadow of Jiffy? Goodness! My grandmother (who was old enough to remember the chore of baking) was overjoyed when she discovered those little boxes. She could 'play grandma' with baked goods without the real labors she remembered.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 05:04 PM (MIKMs)

219 My wife has a phone and saint for a husband
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 05:03 PM (Ydx5u)
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. . . he said, modestly.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:04 PM (C1PQi)

220 Weird flunky, I will pray for your friends.

Just a reminder: God has invited everyone to be on good terms with Him. Just RSVP and He'll take it from there.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 05:05 PM (4HMW8)

221 We had Chef Boy R Dee pizzas in a box till I was 16 years old.

Posted by: PhilDirt at September 23, 2018 05:07 PM (QKRDW)

222 Just RSVP and He'll take it from there.
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Should I bring a bottle of wine?

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 05:07 PM (kQs4Y)

223 Should I bring a bottle of wine?

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 05:07 PM (kQs4Y)
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Nah, He makes His own.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:07 PM (C1PQi)

224 McConnell has his legacy at stake. I am surprised he caved to Flake and the Abortion Twins.

Thursday seems like 3 years away, not 3 days

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 05:08 PM (HrSJb)

225 Just finished Sunday Italian dinner and a nice Barolo.

I'll be over hear sleeping.

Oh and the Sicilians here make their pizza way better than that :-)

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 05:08 PM (w5kO1)

226 There will probably be a daiquiri Bond soon.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is monkeying with his signature at September 23, 2018 05:08 PM (PRfdc)

227 By the way. Lou Malnatti's is the best Pizza

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 05:09 PM (HrSJb)

228 213 I have a question. So how much time do you figure you spend on average a day, cooking and all? Like prepping, cooking,clean-up, etc?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (lwiT4)



Honestly grammie, it depends. Some weeks I am with it, and prepare a couple of weeks worth of meals in one day. I love those weeks, because I can pull prepped meat out of the freezer and thaw it, then grab cut up veg from the bin and put together a meal in twenty or so minutes.

On the weeks I screw up and don't do that, it's usually forty five minutes to prep and cook dinner. One thing I always do is make a weekly menu. I have about thirty to forty meals that I rotate through the month, along with seasonal changes, like turkey and chili in colder months, and more fresh veg and salads during the summer.

Start out with a week of easy meals that you enjoy, you can cook in an hour or less, and the build up from there.
I try to do three chicken, one beef, and one vegetarian meal per week, with leftovers for the other two days. Very little food waste, and I can control costs pretty well.

Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 05:09 PM (mFoNl)

229 I have a question. So how much time do you figure
you spend on average a day, cooking and all? Like prepping,
cooking,clean-up, etc?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad
----I'm still working so, I prep, cook and clean up in an hour or less routinely.

I have high heat gas burners so I cook like a restaurant does - fast and hot. I *wok* cook alot of my proteins but they aren't necessarily Chinese dishes. Just seems easier to flash cook it and side dishes are cooked normally.

I have an IR broiler so I use that alot too. Veggies, protein, whatever.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2018 05:09 PM (9rIkM)

230
The best way to cook a steak?

Rare.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 05:10 PM (LsBY9)

231 broccoli rabe on pizza, WTF?

Posted by: Infidel at September 23, 2018 05:10 PM (PhT3S)

232 215 Here's a few rum recommendations for your daiquiris
that will make them much better:



Finally. News I can use.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:10 PM (lwiT4)

233 First batch of apples on the stove. Only cut myself once

CBD.......we have the same stove. Love it!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 05:10 PM (c1nDO)

234 Marcus T...can you mention the Barolo?

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 05:11 PM (/n4/h)

235 Re: wine

I'm not a wine drinker but was given a bottle of Duplin brand sangria and it was a nice desert-ish drink. NC wine and I think scuppernongs are heavily involved.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is monkeying with his signature at September 23, 2018 05:11 PM (PRfdc)

236 In the shadow of Jiffy? Goodness!
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 05:04 PM (MIKMs)


Taken last weekend on a scouting expedition with AltonJackson:
https://stoatnet.org/eljiffy.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 05:11 PM (y87Qq)

237 The second photo looks a tad weird.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2018 05:12 PM (Ldr3U)

238 That pizza gives me an idea. Kids like pizza, right? And drunk teenagers REALLY like pizza, right? So how about this: the night K, F, and the other three kids were partying it up at that house, they ordered a pizza, and THE PIZZA GUY felt up F? Whaddaya think, guys? Did I save the day or what?

Posted by: Ed Whelan at September 23, 2018 05:13 PM (XcgmW)

239 I have about thirty to forty meals that I rotate through the month, along with seasonal changes, like turkey and chili in colder months, and more fresh veg and salads during the summer.


I couldn't think up 40 meals if you put a gun to my head. We make like three things.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:13 PM (lwiT4)

240 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time? I just sort of eat when I get hungry. I figure those with families probably have to set a time or it would be impossible to manage.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)

241 Hadrian...you forgot 'warm and relaxed'.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (/n4/h)

242 A blend of rums from 5 islands. So, fruity, flavorful, and floral you'll smell it when you open the bottle. Yet, sophisticated and somewhat austere. Really comes alive in a daiquiri - tastes like you made a great tiki drink with only 3 ingredients. Use their daiquiri recipe : 2oz Banks, .75 oz simple syrup, .75 oz fresh lime juice.

Great stuff. This is what James Bond would use were he a daiquiri drinker.

My personal fave.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 05:03 PM (CRRq9)
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I became a fan of daiquiris this summer, naturalfake, and that's the recipe I use. Most Fridays I would have one with my husband when he got home from work. Delicious.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (C1PQi)

243 I have nothing to contribute here, having lost most of my appetite recently. Nothing sounds good, especially anything that takes effort to fix. Happily, the local market makes outstanding kabobs. Meat, peppers, onions and squash, marinated. I actually bake 'em (not being inclined to lay charcoal for one kabob) at 550 degrees. Dammit, Pisy, why won't you take html today?

The piggy, OTOH, is obsessed with food. He has a hollow ball that I put carrot pieces in. He rolls it around the floor and the pieces fall out. This morning I went to check the carrot ball. It was nowhere to be found in his digs. I finally located it. Empty. Parked smack dab in front of the refrigerator.

Too lazy to look this up...does anyone know which bell peppers are male and which are female? Is it four lobes for female and three for male or the other way around.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:15 PM (AzV8L)

244 240 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time? I just sort of eat when I get hungry. I figure those with families probably have to set a time or it would be impossible to manage.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)



About 5:30. I won't eat past six.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:15 PM (lwiT4)

245 Nah, He makes His own.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:07 PM (C1PQi)
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Ha!

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 05:16 PM (kQs4Y)

246 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time? I just sort of eat when I get hungry. I figure those with families probably have to set a time or it would be impossible to manage.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)

Growing up mom had a specific dinner time:

"You'll eat when I am ready to cook and you'll eat what I cook"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 05:16 PM (Ydx5u)

247 213 I have a question. So how much time do you figure you spend on average a day, cooking and all? Like prepping, cooking,clean-up, etc?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:02

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On wknds around 5-6.5 hrs. Start drinking at noon. Dicing/prep starts at 2p to avoid cutting off fingers. 3p read Food Thread. 4p line up pots/pans/cookie sheet for sides. Fire up grill/oven 5'sh. Cook meat. Eat 5:30 or 6p. Wife cleans for 20-30 mins.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 23, 2018 05:16 PM (Dhht7)

248 240 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time? I just sort of eat when I get hungry. I figure those with families probably have to set a time or it would be impossible to manage.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)

I usually only eat one meal a day, some time in the afternoon / evening / night.

Yes, I'm a single dude living alone, why do you ask?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (GBteo)

249 Oh, geez...not only did I swear at Pixy, I misspelled her name. Sorry, Pixy.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (AzV8L)

250 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time? I
just sort of eat when I get hungry. I figure those with families
probably have to set a time or it would be impossible to manage.

Posted by: Weasel


We eat at the same time every night unless there are extenuating circumstances even now that the kids are gone. When the kids were here, they told me that we were one of the few families that had dinner together every night. Even their friends noticed it. I imagine that's why they seemed to show up at dinner time.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (9rIkM)

251 100th anniversary range Kitchenaid

Link, moki? I couldn't find it.

Posted by: Infidel at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (PhT3S)

252 "You'll eat when I am ready to cook and you'll eat what I cook"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 05:16 PM (Ydx5u)
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My son! Hey, what are you doing commenting at a place like this? I thought I raised you better?

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (C1PQi)

253 On wknds around 5-6.5 hrs


Oh my gosh

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:18 PM (lwiT4)

254 what a great pic, hogmartin!

Posted by: concrete girl at September 23, 2018 05:18 PM (1YQLC)

255
I think Her Majesty and I sit down at dinner at home together three times a year, Thanksgiving, Christmas and, maybe, New Year's.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 05:18 PM (LsBY9)

256 I know the arguments for thin crust, but can't see eating a pizza as a appetizer

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 05:18 PM (T4oHT)

257 Harry Paratestes, you and I are on the same schedule. Eat when hungry. Sometimes I eat dinner at 3:00 in the afternoon and sometimes at 11:00 at night.

And sometimes not at all.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:19 PM (AzV8L)

258 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time? I just sort of eat when I get hungry. I figure those with families probably have to set a time or it would be impossible to manage.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)


I start scrounging for ingredients and looking at recipes when I realize I haven't eaten all day, then start cooking and nibbling at whatever I'm preparing. Then I remember that I'm missing something I need and run out and get it along with a bunch of stuff I don't need because I'm hungry. Then, once dinner is ready, it goes directly into storage containers in the refrigerator to take to work for the next few days because I am not hungry any more.

I hope this answers your question.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 05:19 PM (y87Qq)

259 Cubs Win !!

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:19 PM (lwiT4)

260 257 Harry Paratestes, you and I are on the same schedule. Eat when hungry. Sometimes I eat dinner at 3:00 in the afternoon and sometimes at 11:00 at night.

And sometimes not at all.
Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:19 PM (AzV8L)

Yeah, that's about the sum of it.

Keeps me thin (ish).

This "HAVE TO EAT THREE MEALS A DAY AT x:00" thing is... problematic for weight control, I think.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 05:19 PM (GBteo)

261 Rumors that Kavanaugh kept daily calendars. Real or fake news?

Posted by: Martell at September 23, 2018 05:20 PM (ZVokc)

262 The magic number is 5

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 05:20 PM (SiINZ)

263 "You'll eat when I am ready to cook and you'll eat what I cook"
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I remember sitting at the table with siblings refusing to eat something mom worked at very hard all day, I think it was soup, and she finally dismissed us when the dogs wouldn't even touch it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (MIKMs)

264 QuietMan - who do we play next??

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (lwiT4)

265
I know the arguments for thin crust, but can't see eating a pizza as a appetizer
Posted by: Skip


Get one with toppings.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (IqV8l)

266 Ok you jerks, I got pizza. Mushroom and pepperoni. I hope you're satisfied.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (/qEW2)

267 https://www.kitchenaid.com/100year.html

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (kQs4Y)

268 weirdflunky - wow. I will certainly pray.

Same here. I don't think God has given up even on New England, so my prayers you have.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (3C9q2)

269 "...set dinner time? I just sort of eat when I
get hungry."

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 05:14 PM (MVjcR)

These are not mutually exclusive!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 05:22 PM (wYseH)

270 I am mostly particular for times to eat,
0430, 0500, 0900, 1200, 1500, 1700, 2000hrs
Did get thrown off today as lunch wasn't until 1400hrs

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 05:22 PM (T4oHT)

271
When we have a litter of puppies, they're watched 24 hours a day for the first ten days or until their eyes open. I pull the 10:00 PM to 8:00 AM shift. So I find myself having breakfast at 11:00 PM and dinner at 7:00 AM.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 05:23 PM (LsBY9)

272 Skip - when do you sleep?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:23 PM (lwiT4)

273 QuietMan - who do we play next??

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (lwiT4)



Pittsburgh at home. The Brewers are off to St. Louis.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 05:23 PM (SiINZ)

274 https://www.kitchenaid.com/100year.html
Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (kQs4Y)
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Wow, that's beautiful. And blue is my favorite color.

moki, tell Mr. moki I think you need this.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:24 PM (C1PQi)

275 grammie that does seem to be a problem lately.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 05:24 PM (T4oHT)

276 Too lazy to look this up...does anyone know which bell peppers are male and which are female? Is it four lobes for female and three for male or the other way around.
Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:15 PM (AzV8L)


Peppers don't have any particular gender, it's just one of those things like how you're supposed to be able to tell male from female eggplants by the shape some part of them and one is bitter and the other isn't. It doesn't really make a difference, biologically.

Hopefully this saves someone else from having to do a search for "do peppers have sex" to make sure. I don't recommend that one, as a search string.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 05:24 PM (y87Qq)

277
I'll be happy if St. Louis and Los Angeles miss the playoffs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (LsBY9)

278 261. True. He has offered to show them to Jud. Committee. then will promptly shed them

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (HrSJb)

279 Here's a question... who has a set dinner time?

Teh kittehs can get pretty pestiferous if they aren't fed on their usual schedule. I have my meals after they've had "happy belly time" and are napping.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (3C9q2)

280 Grilled a hamburger for lunch today. I have been sprinkling my burgers with beef rubs I have laying around.

Here's what I do with mine: Grill on kamado, top with crispy bacon, mustard on the bun and some finely grated cotija cheese. Burrrppp...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (j0Oc6)

281 211 bluebell, she was just beside herself, it had been a very long week for all of us, she still had no power at her house and here she was battling The Thing From Behind The Refrigerator Door.

Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 05:27 PM (2shuf)

282 MU Eris, thank you. Guess I could order the knob bowl and have my kitchen aide painted. Would really like to find a gas counter top stove to replace the one I have. Have double ovens on the wall.

Posted by: Infidel at September 23, 2018 05:27 PM (PhT3S)

283 Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 05:21 PM (kQs4Y)


Well, they're nice appliances. But powder blue? Didn't we learn the lesson with Harvest Gold and Avocado?

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:28 PM (AzV8L)

284 From Ignoramus in the previous thread....
**Begin Ignoramus Transmission:
You can find the e-mails between Grassley's staff and Ford's lawyers here. The staff got rolled by quite aggressive lawyers


https://tinyurl.com/ybds8kah
**Break Ignoramus Transmission:

Wow, WOW!!!
That's a pretty pathetic series of exchanges.

Lawyer for Ford was wearing the big boy pants and the GOP thumb sucker was taking it good and hard.


The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 05:28 PM (kT3/m)

285 So sorry to be that asshole, and this is totally of topic... But I got a book bleg for y'all.

Anybody know a good book to start reading up on the thirty years war?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2018 05:28 PM (PKh7I)

286 I think the Kitchenaid gas burners max out at 18,000 btus or so - the Capital range I have hits 23,000.

But, like I said, I want to cook very fast most of the time. I can throttle it back to a very low simmer if I want to.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2018 05:29 PM (9rIkM)

287 209 ... Hi bluebell. The business I mentioned has a local store. It's a family business but Greek not Italian. We are spoiled with their olive oils and balsamic vinegars. Not cheap but we are going for taste and the good stuff can be used sparingly. They even offer tastings in their warehouse.

As much as I like the good, dark balsamic (not the crap from the supermarket) the fruit flavored white balsamics are wonderful. A slight drizzle of it on salad greens from our garden is a treat.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 05:30 PM (V+03K)

288 I'll be happy if St. Louis and Los Angeles miss the playoffs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (LsBY9)



Colorado can either knock St. Louis out of the wild card or the Dodgers out of winning the west, but one of them will get in at this point.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 05:30 PM (SiINZ)

289 When my kidlets were young, we had breakfast time rather than dinner time. Almost no way to schedule around activities and work, so homework, big meals, celebrations, etc were all at 6 am.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 05:30 PM (MIKMs)

290

I think the combination of peanut butter and dark chocolate is marvelous, and why you will see me hunched over the sink shoving dark-chocolate Reese's into my mouth whenever they show up in my kitchen.


You too, CBD?

I used to keep a bag of Toll House semi-sweet cooking morsels in the fridge and just get a handful whenever the chocolate jones starts. Which was just about every other time I walked past the fridge.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 05:31 PM (HaL55)

291 JTB, that sounds delicious. Maybe when I use up my peach balsamic, I'll get in touch with you to find out where these nice people are!

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:31 PM (C1PQi)

292 Time to go get a slice and an Italian sausage.

shaddap ya morons!!

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 05:31 PM (FhXTo)

293 Anybody know a good book to start reading up on the thirty years war?

C.V. Wedgwood, The Thirty Years' War.

Oldie, but the most accessible general history available in English. Most of the more recent general works are in German. if your spoken German is adequate, there is a good three-part German documentary series on YouTube.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:32 PM (3C9q2)

294 Been meaning to say... and this certainly looks like the place to say it...

Thanks to whatever Moron(s) mentioned a few days ago (Thursday?) that it was National Pepperoni Pizza Day. Made our dinner plans for that night much easier.

Posted by: mindful webworker and the culinary delights at September 23, 2018 05:32 PM (Iynsv)

295 We eat dinner about fiveish during the week, but on the weekend we eat pretty much whenever. When the kids were still at home, we ate whenever their schedules permitted.

Posted by: Antisocialist at September 23, 2018 05:32 PM (2shuf)

296 Thanks Cat!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 23, 2018 05:33 PM (PKh7I)

297 Hogmartin, you made me look. You are right. The number of lobes is not indicative of a male or female pepper. It's a myth.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:33 PM (AzV8L)

298 As much as I like the good, dark balsamic (not the crap from the supermarket) the fruit flavored white balsamics are wonderful. A slight drizzle of it on salad greens from our garden is a treat.
Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 05:30 PM (V+03K)


Is there a way to tell the real balsamic from white vinegar with caramel color and flavoring? I've heard the real thing is supposed to be amazing but I don't think I've ever had it, and I don't know what to look for.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 05:35 PM (y87Qq)

299 I'll be happy if St. Louis and Los Angeles miss the playoffs.

I'm rooting for whoever knocks the Barves (plural of Barf) out of the playoffs. Would love to have grammie's Cubs avenge the Phillies.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:35 PM (3C9q2)

300 Antisocialist, thanks for the pizza dough tale. I laughed. Some day she will, too.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 05:38 PM (AzV8L)

301 Calzone will be the name of the wasteland bordering the Pacific after the apocalypse.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 23, 2018 05:38 PM (2DOZq)

302 My GF likes "Bori-cha" which is basically hard toasted barley boiled to make a type of barley water. She adds in the hard toasted corn kernels too because she says it makes it sweeter.
It is Korean.

I like PG Tips tea, but it can be hard to find in the US.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 05:39 PM (mUa7G)

303 >>261
Rumors that Kavanaugh kept daily calendars. Real or fake news?

NYT is reporting he's bring the calendars to the committee. They will show he was out most of the summer and never went to the kind of party that Ford and her friend Haven Monahan described.

Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 05:39 PM (YR7aL)

304 Hopefully this saves someone else from having to do a search for "do peppers have sex" to make sure. I don't recommend that one, as a search string.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 05:24 PM (y87Qq)


Si! And it is hot, mi amigo.

Posted by: ¡Jeb! having sex with a jalapeno at September 23, 2018 05:39 PM (/qEW2)

305 286 I think the Kitchenaid gas burners max out at 18,000 btus or so - the Capital range I have hits 23,000.

But, like I said, I want to cook very fast most of the time. I can throttle it back to a very low simmer if I want to.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2018 05:29 PM (9rIkM)

Just looked up Capital ovens -- they look awesome. A step up from KitchenAid, for sure.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 05:40 PM (GBteo)

306 291 ... bluebell, Please let us know if and when, maybe we can arrange a time to go there for both families. That would be great. If Weasel is interested perhaps we can lure him from the wilds of Alexandria. I still want to meet him.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 05:41 PM (V+03K)

307 296.

You're welcome. Most of the histories of the Thirty Years' War are in either German or French rather than English, because England was involved with its own civil war in the 1640s; Charles I was executed just a few months after the Peace of Westphalia. Understandably British historians tend to focus more on the tangled lives of the Stuarts, Cromwell, and the Restoration than on the bloodshed going on in what is now Germany in the mid-seventeenth century. It's a fascinating period, though, and I wish you well in your reading.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:41 PM (3C9q2)

308 Will do, JTB! Weasel is definitely worth meeting, as are you and Mrs. JTB.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:42 PM (C1PQi)

309
A lot of calzone/pizza sticking issues could be resolved by an application of very tasty stone ground corn meal over parchment paper.

Keep oven temperatures under Fahrenheit 451 for best results.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 05:43 PM (LOgQ4)

310 friends of ours are related to the owners of this place, so, if we ever get all the other projects done AND have some $$$ lying around... we'll put a pizza oven out by the pool bar Herself wants built.

i'm thinking that'll be in about #twoweeks

https://earthstoneovens.com/

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 05:44 PM (rjbMC)

311 Just a thought: we can haz Baseball Playoffs Food Thread some time in the next few weeks? Could be either food to eat at home while watching the games or a guide to ballpark eats.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (3C9q2)

312 Harry P - for me one of the big selling points was no electronic gear to burn/wear out. No electronic timer/clock, no circuit boards, nada. Yeah, it has burner igniters but that's it. Just straight up power.

Convection oven if I want it, an integrated rotisserie and kickass IR broiler. If I move it's coming with me.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (9rIkM)

313

Calzone will be the name of the wasteland bordering the Pacific after the apocalypse.

"Otisburg?

Really?"

- Lex Luthor in Superman the Oneth.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (HaL55)

314 Here's a question. Is there anyway to make a pork chop tender?
Not since my dear mom made bone in pork chops have I had a tender pork chop. I think tender pork chops went extinct sometime in the 80s maybe. That's the last time I had one. Of her technique I only remember shakebake was involved, some how. I make a well done rubbery puck or a pinkish rubbery puck. I would love to know how to make them tender.

Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (YR7aL)

315 https://earthstoneovens.com/
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 05:44 PM (rjbMC)

Just write pizza oven where it says "machine gun."

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (An2kO)

316 I hope Slapweasel comes back in time for the post-season. He's awesome.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:47 PM (lwiT4)

317 I hope Slapweasel comes back in time for the post-season. He's awesome.

But can he cook?

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:48 PM (3C9q2)

318
All the Phillies had to do was take all 7 out of the 10 remaining games against the Braves. A modest request.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 05:49 PM (LOgQ4)

319 Lex Luthor in Superman the Oneth.

To Otis: "Do you know why the number two hundred is so vitally descriptive to you and me? It's your weight and my IQ"

"Miss Teschmacher!!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2018 05:49 PM (j0Oc6)

320 Sort of food related.

Ben of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream asked people on Twitter for seven names of ice cream to go with seven up and coming progressives in Congress. I don't think she's up and coming, but I laughed anyway at several including this one:

Maxine's Harrass Mint.

https://tinyurl.com/yb5n9wbg

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 05:49 PM (AllCR)

321 I would love to know how to make them tender.
Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (YR7aL)

Grilling or frying a pork chop is always a challenge. My best results come from a thick cut and grilling or frying at a high temperature to get the sear, then lower the temp and drop a lid on it.

Works most of the time. But not always.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (An2kO)

322 Here's a question. Is there anyway to make a pork chop tender?
Not
since my dear mom made bone in pork chops have I had a tender pork
chop. I think tender pork chops went extinct sometime in the 80s maybe.
That's the last time I had one. Of her technique I only remember
shakebake was involved, some how. I make a well done rubbery puck or a
pinkish rubbery puck. I would love to know how to make them tender.





Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM

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I do tender pork chops on the grill all of the time. I get the thick center cut ones from Sams and put just sea salt on them and put them on a pre heated charcoal grill with the top and bottom vents almost completely closed. 8-10 minutes on a side and they are done. Smoke will be pouring out of the grill while they cook.


Be very very careful not to overcook them. Even one minute extra can make them tough and chewy. I know mine are done when I get a pool of golden fat/juice on the top after I have turned them over once. They almost look not done, but I tent them with foil for about 5 minutes and they are almost fork tender at that point.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (JUOKG)

323 317 I hope Slapweasel comes back in time for the post-season. He's awesome.

But can he cook?
Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:48 PM (3C9q2)


I bet Slapweasel can do most anything he sets his mind to.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (lwiT4)

324 312 Harry P - for me one of the big selling points was no electronic gear to burn/wear out. No electronic timer/clock, no circuit boards, nada. Yeah, it has burner igniters but that's it. Just straight up power.

Convection oven if I want it, an integrated rotisserie and kickass IR broiler. If I move it's coming with me.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 23, 2018 05:46 PM (9rIk

I sold my house and am living in a rental now, so no need for an oven -- but I was planning on going high end when / if I ever remodeled my kitchen. It's not THAT much more money, and it's pretty awesome having high quality equipment.

My parents have a six burner Viking Stove, and that thing cooks unbelievably well, is easy(ish) to work on, and looks amazing in the kitchen.

I'm kind of a big believer in spending the extra money for non-consumer grade stuff in general, it almost always lasts longer. Especially since the advent of big box stores, where the store sets a price point and manufacturers have to figure out a way to hit that point, even if it means sacrificing quality, longevity, etc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 05:51 PM (GBteo)

325 314
Here's a question. Is there anyway to make a pork chop tender?

Hot and fast because there isn't much fat on them. I'll leave comments about women until later.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 05:52 PM (K22Va)

326 bananadream, try brining them and then grilling them. Just search for "how to brine pork chops" and you'll find lots of ideas. That's the best way I know to make them tender.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:52 PM (C1PQi)

327 I would love to know how to make them tender.

What the other said, and use a Thermapen or related temperature probe. I try to make sure I get the pork chops off the heat around 165-175 deg., no higher.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2018 05:53 PM (j0Oc6)

328 Works most of the time. But not always.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (An2kO)

That said, a bad pork chop is still a pork chop.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 05:54 PM (An2kO)

329 Well it looks like Tiger is going win a tournament after all these years and there must 50 million people at the 18th? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 05:54 PM (Ydx5u)

330 Besides, nobody goes there; it's always too crowded.

Posted by: Emmie


Yogi Berra.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 05:54 PM (j1+Gy)

331 All the Phillies had to do was take all 7 out of the 10 remaining games against the Braves. A modest request.

I know, I know. If they hadn't dropped so many games to crap teams like the Padres and Marlins in August . . . well, they wouldn't have been the Phillies we know so well from seasons past. Sigh. I may yet ask grammie what brand of gin she favors-- I could use a swig or two right now.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:55 PM (3C9q2)

332 Here's another name for Progressive Ice Cream:

Sour Grapes

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 05:55 PM (AllCR)

333 I like tanqueray or Bombay sapphire. Or anything else if you're buying.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:56 PM (lwiT4)

334 298 , Hogmartin, As far as I know, for the good balsamic check the label for non-vinegar ingredients, it should be relatively thick and syrupy, and the price should seem crazy high. The company we are using started giving taste samples at the local farmers market which is how we learned about the good stuff. I suspect doing a search on 'award winning balsamic vinegars' should provide proper information. Chances are that the good stuff will be from the Modena, Italy area.

BTW, ours is barrel aged and costs between 20 and 24 dollars for about 13 ounces. Like I said, crazy high.Fortunately, it doesn't ake much for flavor.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 05:57 PM (V+03K)

335 The PGA needs Tiger to win more than he does

Posted by: rammajamma at September 23, 2018 05:58 PM (xceTB)

336 333. Thanks for the recommendations, grammie.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:58 PM (3C9q2)

337 So Tiger wins. Good. Now go away.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:58 PM (lwiT4)

338 What the other said, and use a Thermapen or related temperature probe. I try to make sure I get the pork chops off the heat around 165-175 deg., no higher.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2018 05:53 PM (j0Oc6)


Yes, definitely don't overcook them. The heat should even out and contribute to the food-safety thing while it's resting too, so don't worry that maybe you pull it at 165 but there's some hidden part that's still at 150.

Trichinella spiralis is pretty much eradicated from US pork, there are something like 20 cases annually on average and most of those are from wild boar. It's a shame that people overcook pork so often when poultry is a way more common vector for food poisoning.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 05:58 PM (y87Qq)

339 @303

That's great but the GOP fuckheads that they are have inverted the very concepts of due process by making the accused testify first, much like the connived to invert the treaty clause so they could pass the Iran deal.

So Kavenaugh is going to be left saying, "Everything that that woman is about to say is a lie and here's x, y and z.

Which is great but then the accuser gets the last word so she spins out her fairy tale and the accused cannot rebut.

What the GOP has allowed is grotesque and preposterous, but they have become a grotesque and preposterous political party.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 05:59 PM (kT3/m)

340 That's great but the GOP fuckheads that they are have inverted the very concepts of due process by making the accused testify first

he is NOT testifying first

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:00 PM (Ydx5u)

341 I know, I know. If they hadn't dropped so many games to crap teams like the Padres and Marlins in August . . . well, they wouldn't have been the Phillies we know so well from seasons past. Sigh. I may yet ask grammie what brand of gin she favors-- I could use a swig or two right now.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 05:55 PM


Right before the All-Star break I was taking their record and multiplying by two, and seeing a 100 victory season and first place finish.

* record scratch *

Something went wrong.

But I actually sat in the outfield stands at Connie Mack Stadium in earlier years when they only had to win one more game out of ten... and didn't.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 06:00 PM (LOgQ4)

342 I guess I'll try searing the pork chop and then in oven to the temperature and out. The thing is I doubt my mom did any of that and they were tender with rendered fat and they pretty much fell of the bone.
Well now that I think about it I do think I remember she finished them in the oven on some rack thingy. What I wouldn't give to have a few of those days with her back. Although, I think she'd be a little worried about her boy bothering her in the kitchen.

Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 06:00 PM (YR7aL)

343 I suspect not only can Slap cook, give him some metal scraps and he could build you a grill which to cook on.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 06:00 PM (T4oHT)

344 Michael Moores Anti-Trump Fahrenheit 11/9 Falls Flat At Box Office

Michael Moore news belongs on the food thread.

Posted by: #never at September 23, 2018 06:01 PM (oVJmc)

345 And for the record, that pizzas way too thick.

Might as well made Chicago Deep Dish if you were going to make Italian Pie.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 06:01 PM (kT3/m)

346 Michael Moore news belongs on the food thread.
Posted by: #never at September 23, 2018 06:01 PM (oVJmc)

You mean the Sally Struthers thread?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:02 PM (Ydx5u)

347 BTW, ours is barrel aged and costs between 20 and 24 dollars for about 13 ounces. Like I said, crazy high.Fortunately, it doesn't ake much for flavor.
Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 05:57 PM (V+03K)


Thanks. I figured price was a good way to rule out the cheap stuff, but there's nothing that says a $20 bottle is necessarily worse than a $30 one. I'll check the ingredients on a cheapie bottle of balsamic-style battery acid and see how they compare to the ingredients in a real balsamic vinegar, then work from there.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:02 PM (y87Qq)

348 But I actually sat in the outfield stands at Connie Mack Stadium in earlier years when they only had to win one more game out of ten... and didn't.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic


1964

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:02 PM (j1+Gy)

349
Might as well made Chicago Deep Dish if you were going to make Italian Pie.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 06:01 PM (kT3/m)

Pizza casserole. Go-to for high school cafeterias in the 1980s.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at September 23, 2018 06:03 PM (An2kO)

350

I bet Slapweasel can do most anything he sets his mind to.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (lwiT4)
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I was just thinking about Slap a little while ago.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:03 PM (MVjcR)

351 Which is great but then the accuser gets the last word so she spins out her fairy tale and the accused cannot rebut.

What the GOP has allowed is grotesque and preposterous, but they have become a grotesque and preposterous political party.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 05:59 PM (kT3/m)

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Dude, he is not testifying first. Even Grassley would not concede to this ridiculous request.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:03 PM (I16G8)

352 Food related....
I just bought my first bottle of the year of Oliver Winery Apple Pie Wine. Sooo yummy!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 06:04 PM (myjNJ)

353 I don't think she'll show. They'll run this out as long as they can, then say no-can-do. That's my guess, anyway.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:05 PM (MVjcR)

354 Just finished a thin crust pizza from Dominos, washed down with a Diet Coke.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrrppppp

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:05 PM (6Zmow)

355 Oh, and I just spent half an hour catching up on the wrong thread. Doofus.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:06 PM (MVjcR)

356 354 Just finished a thin crust pizza from Dominos, washed down with a Diet Coke.

Buuuuuuurrrrrrrrppppp
Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:05 PM (6Zmow)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:06 PM (MVjcR)

357 The last load of wash is in the dryer and I did my nails.

Party Time!

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:07 PM (6Zmow)

358 I don't think she'll show. They'll run this out as long as they can, then say no-can-do. That's my guess, anyway.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:05 PM (MVjcR)

---------------

This has been my stance all along. She will never, ever testify. To do so is all downside for her.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:07 PM (I16G8)

359 1964

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:02 PM


I can't possibly be that old. You're a troll!!!!

/ j/k

For some reason, long forgotten, Willie Covington will always be hated by me. Could be an erroneous memory, but I seem to recall he hit one into the cheap outfield seats not far from where I sat. Ending one of games.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 06:07 PM (LOgQ4)

360 bluebell nailed it on pork chops. Brine them first.

I brown both sides quickly, then turn the heat down and cover the pan. Eight minutes a side, more or less.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:08 PM (AzV8L)

361 Bananadream
...porkchops dont like high heat or they get tough.
Searing is good but keep it minimal.
A1 inch rib chop is my go to but i like centercutas well..
After searing low heat. Get to 140 internal temp and you will be good
Grill, skillet...it will work

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 06:08 PM (/n4/h)

362 Wes Covington ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:08 PM (j1+Gy)

363

This has been my stance all along. She will never, ever testify. To do so is all downside for her.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:07 PM (I16G
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Agreed. She shows up, and everyone sees what a big zero this all has been. She stays away, and will forever be the 'victim'.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:09 PM (MVjcR)

364 *fistbump*
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:06 PM (MVjcR)

You gave me the idea for the pizza.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:09 PM (6Zmow)

365 But I actually sat in the outfield stands at Connie Mack Stadium in earlier years when they only had to win one more game out of ten... and didn't.

I was just a kid, but I remember the Phold of 1964. My dad had died suddenly of a heart attack on Memorial Day weekend that year (he was a WWII vet, and the coroner thought that combat stress probably caught up with him years later). Come September and the Phillies went down in flames, and my mom said, "If your father had lived to see this, he'd have died all over again." My Uncle Joe did a double take and said, "That sounds like something Yogi Berra would say." We were able to laugh about it even though the circumstances were sad.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 06:09 PM (3C9q2)

366 Thnks to everyone for the tea suggestions. I will be checking them out. Had never heard of typhoo before but it gets a lot of 5 star reviews. And it's available at the closest Wegmans. Yay!

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 06:09 PM (V+03K)

367 OK, I will take partial exception to what CBD says about the reverse sear on steaks.

I've been a cook/chef for over 32 years and me and the wife are meticulously hyper-critical of our food, and the food prepared by others. So much so that we eat out maybe 4 times a year. And even THEN we aren't impressed. Call it scientific/artistic snobbery if you will, but there we are.

So, here's how I've done steak now for a while, after trying just about every type of preparation style.

Take a THICK (1.5" - 2" thick) ribeye, NY Strip, or Porterhouse. Salt quite liberally (Sea Salt or Kosher) on both sides, then place on plate back in the refrigerator. 2 hours is good.

Take out and pat dry with paper towels. Heat oven to 250 degrees and place steak on wire rack on a sheet pan and put in oven. Heat until internal temp is 95 degrees (about 35-45 minutes) and then pat dry, flip, and put back in until internal temp is 105 degrees (maybe another 10 minutes). Between the flip and the final 105 degree temp heat grill at MAX. If you want, you could heat up a cast iron skillet on the stovetop instead. MAX heat, again.

Take steak out, pat dry again, and then coat top of steak with a thin coating of good quality mayonnaise - I like Dukes. Place steak, mayo side down, on grill or in skillet. Let sear for about 2-3 minutes, turning at 45 degree angle once. Then coat top side with mayo again and flip over, again for 2-3 minutes.

Take off heat and serve - no need to tent with foil. Add some fresh pepper if you like.

The oil/egg combo of the mayo seals in the partially cooked and juicy steak from the oven, and forms an amazing crust.

I do this with fish as well - insanely good.

Posted by: grey2112 at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (8EiD4)

368 The dough is rising for the pizza as I type. Pepperoni, onion, parmesan reggiano and mozzarella, caressed to the point of perfection with a brief stint under the broiler after the main baking step.

"Pasta fazoola, cacchiatore, Mama Mia!" - Bugs Bunny

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (j0Oc6)

369 Bread the pork chops w/ Italian bread crumbs ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (j1+Gy)

370 364 *fistbump*
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:06 PM (MVjcR)

You gave me the idea for the pizza.
Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:09 PM (6Zmow)
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Smart money is to NEVER do anything Weasel does!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (MVjcR)

371 Pizza is doomed! Doomed!

Posted by: #neverscallops at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (oVJmc)

372 Wes Covington ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:08 PM


Probably. I refuse to accept his actual name. One lousy game they had to win. He ruined one of them.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 06:11 PM (LOgQ4)

373 Maple syrup on pizza? Mr. Dildo?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:11 PM (MVjcR)

374 Two other flavors for Progressive Ice Cream which were submitted to Ben and Jerry's:

End of the Americone Dream

Half Baked Ideas.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 06:11 PM (AllCR)

375 bananadream, your pork chop problem may be due to tough meat to start with. You can't make a tough cut tender without braising it for hours.

WalMart pork chops would work well as replacement soles for your hiking boots.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:12 PM (AzV8L)

376 373 Maple syrup on pizza? Mr. Dildo?
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:11 PM (MVjcR)

Them's Fighting Words.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:12 PM (6Zmow)

377 I cook pork chops on the grill sometimes - I just time them carefully, about 5 minutes on a side, and encourage guests to make an exploratory cut. Still pink? There's the microwave.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:14 PM (MVjcR)

378 11 PM (MVjcR)

Them's Fighting Words.
Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:12 PM (6Zmow)
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And I thought we bonded over Dominos thin crust.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:14 PM (MVjcR)

379 Wes Covington ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:08 PM

Probably. I refuse to accept his actual name. One lousy game they had to win. He ruined one of them.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic


Gene Mauch's 2 man pitching rotation in the last 10 games contibuted mightily IMHO, as well.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:15 PM (j1+Gy)

380 >>375
bananadream, your pork chop problem may be due to tough meat to start with.

How do you choose a tenderer cut? What do you look for?

Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 06:15 PM (YR7aL)

381 If i got a ribrack of pork, of course it will be brined. Mid week i suppose a quick brine is good

Posted by: Lone Ranger at September 23, 2018 06:15 PM (/n4/h)

382 I cook pork chops on the grill sometimes - I just time them carefully, about 5 minutes on a side, and encourage guests to make an exploratory cut. Still pink? There's the microwave.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:14 PM (MVjcR)


"Haha, very funny, Mr. Weasel, just put it back on the grill please."
"No really, you eat the pork chop or you get into the microwave. I don't have all day."

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:16 PM (y87Qq)

383 Did find out what CBD does with his maple syrup

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 06:17 PM (T4oHT)

384 And I thought we bonded over Dominos thin crust.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:14 PM (MVjcR)

You'll bring the Wrath of CBD upon us.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:17 PM (6Zmow)

385 Gene Mauch's 2 man pitching rotation in the last 10 games contibuted mightily IMHO, as well.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:15 PM


"Spahn and Sain and two days of rain." That was the prevailing pitching theory back then, I think.

Have two starters, beat them up, then pray for a couple of rain outs.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 06:18 PM (LOgQ4)

386
Wow, that's beautiful. And blue is my favorite color.

moki, tell Mr. moki I think you need this.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 05:24 PM (C1PQi)

Hey sugar!!

I do. I tell him how much I REQUIRE this daily. He appears to be immune. But I assure you, his meals would be soooo much better if they were cooked in that beautiful blue box of food making magic.

Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 06:18 PM (mFoNl)

387 The best white pizza in our area has multiple cheeses including feta, fresh basil, whole roasted garlics, artichoke hearts, and sundried tomato (which should work against the whiteness but what the hey).

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:18 PM (yQpMk)

388 and olive oil, I was forgetting that.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:19 PM (yQpMk)

389 likely should have asked this on the gardening thread yesterday, but moron.

anyone know what the Old Farmer's Almanac says winter is going to be like here in SoCal this year?

IOW, mow much firewood and kindling do i need to have on hand?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:19 PM (rjbMC)

390 It's GAF.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (yQpMk)

391 IOW, mow much firewood and kindling do i need to have on hand?


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:19 PM (rjbMC)

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asking for my back...

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (rjbMC)

392 Posted by: grey2112 at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (8EiD4)

Mayonnaise? On a steak?

Jesus.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (GBteo)

393 Hi moki!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (MVjcR)

394 I made a Thai chicken dish this week that was fantastic and easy. The kiddos didn't care for chicken thighs. So, next time I will use chicken breasts. I love the thighs though. https://www.flavourandsavour.com/easy-thai-baked-chicken/


I also baked some white chocolate cranberry macadamia nut cookies that were excellent. First time making them.

Posted by: no good deed at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (1uG1d)

395 likely should have asked this on the gardening thread yesterday, but moron.

anyone know what the Old Farmer's Almanac says winter is going to be like here in SoCal this year?

IOW, mow much firewood and kindling do i need to have on hand?
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:19 PM (rjbMC)

With all the rumblings along the tectonic ring of fire, I suggest you buy a row boat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (Ydx5u)

396 pork is cooked these days when the juice is clear...

as long as it's US raised pork, anyway.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:21 PM (rjbMC)

397
You'll bring the Wrath of CBD upon us.
Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:17 PM (6Zmow)
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bluebell will protect us!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:21 PM (MVjcR)

398 393 Hi moki!
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (MVjcR)

Hello Weasel!!! Give our best to Mrs. Weasel and Weaseldog!!

Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 06:21 PM (mFoNl)

399 "Spahn and Sain and two days of rain." That was the prevailing pitching theory back then, I think.


That was the Braves b/c they didn't have much pitching depth.

Mauch panicked and threw Bunning and Chris Short out there, but the Phils had more depth than the Braves.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:22 PM (j1+Gy)

400

Hello Weasel!!! Give our best to Mrs. Weasel and Weaseldog!!
Posted by: moki at September 23, 2018 06:21 PM (mFoNl)
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Done. Hi to Mr. moki from the Weasels.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:22 PM (MVjcR)

401 How do you choose a tenderer cut? What do you look for?
Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 06:15 PM (YR7aL)

Honestly, the secret to all delicious meats is to buy quality, expensive meat at a butcher shop -- preferably meat that is sourced from an actual farm.

Yes, it costs more money. Yes, it's inconvenient.

But most factory raised meat does not taste good or cook well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 06:23 PM (GBteo)

402 Take off heat and serve - no need to tent with foil. Add some fresh pepper if you like.



The oil/egg combo of the mayo seals in the partially cooked and juicy steak from the oven, and forms an amazing crust.



I do this with fish as well - insanely good.

Posted by: grey2112 at September 23, 2018 06:10 PM (8EiD4)

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what if i want my steak rare?

and doesn't all that salt make the meat salty?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:24 PM (rjbMC)

403 And here's the reality of Michael Moore's film which sucks.

His film came in 8th at the box office making 3.5 million which is incredibly good for a documentary.
Farehnheit 9/11 which was made in 2004, cost 6 million to make which was a lot for a documentary even back then.

Knowing how he works and his methodology, this latest film probably cost less than half to make than the 2004 film, being that he overwhelmingly uses selectively and deceptively edited archival and news footage, cobbled together with contemporaneous interview which cost nothing to setup and shoot.

And I'm pretty sure he's going to have an interantional roll out and end up making some coin from that as well as streaming and other sales.

So the film will be profitable.


Hopefully he chokes on cheeseburger, stupid fat fuck.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 06:24 PM (kT3/m)

404 Nyah minna,

Internet still out at house, so been missing this place and looking for cosplay stuff

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2018 06:25 PM (Dj5/i)

405 367 grey

Thanks, very interesting technique!

I won't wade into the how to cook 'me wars (crossbows FTW), but if you're not dry-aging your steaks in the fridge first, you're doing it wrong.

Posted by: ibguy at September 23, 2018 06:25 PM (vUcdz)

406 When it comes to steak ...

Where have you gone chemjeff?

A foodthread turns its lonely eyes to you.

/s

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 06:25 PM (DMUuz)

407 Look at it this way -- Walmart's (and most grocery stores) goal is to bring you the best value meat, not the best tasting meat.

The highest quality meat brings in a price premium at wholesale. That goes to restaurants, high end butcher shops, etc.

The next quality meat gets a slight price reduction and is the "expensive" meat at your local Krogers or whatever.

The lowest quality meat (still perfectly edible, for sure) is what ends up in the meat bin at 95% of grocery stores in the country (and at the chain restaurants, too.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 06:25 PM (GBteo)

408 With all the rumblings along the tectonic ring of fire, I suggest you buy a row boat

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:20 PM (Ydx5u)

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LOL...

i'll just get a bunch of nylon rope and last together a raft.


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:26 PM (rjbMC)

409 401; can't be said enough. there is a huge difference.

Posted by: dr chavez THE hugo md, phd at September 23, 2018 06:26 PM (KP5rU)

410 So last night I ordered pizza.....yay pizza. Usually, we order a 14 inch half and half....and inevitably my half is like 2 pieces and the rest is the other "half."

So, last night, I decide to go one size bigger, thinking I would at least get more than 2 pizzas, and we'd always have leftovers. So, I went next size up, which was 20 inches. Holy Moses! This thing was huge. It almost seemed like twice the pizza as a large.

Side note: I am thinking of doing sushi for my guy. I am thinking if I can find a sushi that I would tolerate, I might do it.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:26 PM (TL2pK)

411 More than 2 pieces I meant.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:27 PM (TL2pK)

412 what if i want my steak rare?

and doesn't all that salt make the meat salty?
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:24 PM (rjbMC)

I salt my steaks liberally... I don't really taste the salt when its done cooking. The idea is to pull the moisture to the surface of the steak, it helps "tenderize" it. I imagine a lot of the salt drips off as salt water as it's cooking.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 06:27 PM (GBteo)

413 Which is great but then the accuser gets the last word so she spins out her fairy tale and the accused cannot rebut.



What the GOP has allowed is grotesque and preposterous, but they have become a grotesque and preposterous political party.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 05:59 PM (kT3/m)



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Dude, he is not testifying first. Even Grassley would not concede to this ridiculous request.



Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:03 PM

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You are wasting your time trying to reason with him. It doesn't work. Once he has his mind made up nothing any of us can say will change it.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 06:27 PM (JUOKG)

414 What do you look for?


Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 06:15 PM (YR7aL)


Marbling first. One of the reasons pork chops are so dry is that they've bred all the fat out of the pigs, going for "the other white meat". The more fat in the tissue the more tender and flavorful it will be. Don't fall for the prepackaged stuff. That's not fit for dogs. Find a shop with a decent butcher who cuts his own meat.

If your chop has a membrane around one edge don't cut it off. Just make several slashes through it to keep the chop from curling.
Thicker pork chops are best on the grill. If you're going the Shake-N-Bake route, (which I confess I love) thinner is better. It also makes for better snacking on cold leftover pork chops.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:27 PM (AzV8L)

415 The Lance of Longinus has a spiritual, ethereal body, which possessed Hitler from age 15.

https://youtu.be/sevXp_iI_QM

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:28 PM (fA1SL)

416 So, I went next size up, which was 20 inches. Holy Moses! This thing was huge. It almost seemed like twice the pizza as a large.


Behold my power.

Posted by: Pi at September 23, 2018 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

417 I am thinking if I can find a sushi that I would tolerate, I might do it.


Tuna is the safest, I would bet.

Posted by: Pi at September 23, 2018 06:29 PM (yQpMk)

418 I like Pi!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:29 PM (MVjcR)

419 dammit

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:29 PM (yQpMk)

420 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2018 06:29 PM (Dj5/i)

421 Well, it's official. Tiger has won another major for the first time in years.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:30 PM (I16G8)

422 420. Fatty meat is ruined by high heat, unless it's just a quick sear.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:30 PM (fA1SL)

423 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?


let's find out.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:30 PM (yQpMk)

424 420 Anna Puma

Mushroom cloud.

Which is oddly on-topic, pizza-wise, neh?

Posted by: ibguy at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (vUcdz)

425 @417

Well I think cooked sushi is about the only thing I'll be able to handle. Tempura something. MAYBE smoked salmon.

I am not a seafood person but....I could suffer through it. This one place has a couple of chicken sushis which is more my speed, but really I just want to find out his preferred sushi joint and look at their menu.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (TL2pK)

426 and doesn't all that salt make the meat salty?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:24 PM (rjbMC)


Sixty-mumble years ago I remember the butcher telling my dad to NEVER salt meat before cooking. Said it made the meat dry. He advised rubbing it with lemon juice.

And I've done that for sixty-mumble years. Then, a few months ago, my son cooked a steak that he'd salted liberally before cooking it. I was aghast. Till I cut into the steak. It was juicy and tender. Every piece of meat I've cooked since then has been salted first.

Of course, if you brine the chops you might not have to salt them. bluebell?

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (AzV8L)

427 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?

Posted by: Anna Puma


He'd start oozing out of the oven like the pizza dough at the restaurant's cooler.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (j1+Gy)

428 but have a fire extinguisher handy. Grease fires are a bitch.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (yQpMk)

429 Here's a question. Is there anyway to make a pork chop tender?
Not
since my dear mom made bone in pork chops have I had a tender pork
chop. I think tender pork chops went extinct sometime in the 80s maybe.
That's the last time I had one. Of her technique I only remember
shakebake was involved, some how. I make a well done rubbery puck or a
pinkish rubbery puck. I would love to know how to make them tender.

Posted by: bananadream


As others have suggested brining works. It's just a salt solution. Make sure it's ice cold before adding to the pork. But you can also just dry brine; salt both sides, cool in refridg for an hour on a wire rack. (Don't salt again before cooking, btw.)

If you leave the outer ring of fat and silver skin on the sides, be sure to put several shallow verticle slices just through the silver skin before cooking to avoid cupping.

And yes, most tough chops are due to over-cooking. You don't want super high heat to start. And in regards to the final meat temp, the USDA is now ok with 145'F. Rest after for 5 min for a regular chop, 10 for those monster chops.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (c07y/)

430 423 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?


let's find out.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:30 PM (yQpMk)
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We're going to need a bigger grill.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (MVjcR)

431 420: anna, the resulting grease fire will burn your kitchen down. put the fat fuck on a spit, over a wood fire, OUTSIDE.

Posted by: dr chavez THE hugo md, phd at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (KP5rU)

432 Side note: I am thinking of doing sushi for my guy. I am thinking if I can find a sushi that I would tolerate, I might do it.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:26 PM (TL2pK)


It's pretty easy to make. I always use this recipe. Not just for sushi, either, I use it for all kinds of things.
https://stoatnet.org/sushi.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (y87Qq)

433 425 TickledPink

>> chicken sushi

?????????!!!!!!!!!!!

Danger, Will Robinson!

Posted by: ibguy at September 23, 2018 06:32 PM (vUcdz)

434 That dough is racist! And homophobic!

Posted by: Chris Calzonna at September 23, 2018 06:32 PM (Tyii7)

435 Marbling first. One of the reasons pork chops are so dry is that they've bred all the fat out of the pigs, going for "the other white meat". The more fat in the tissue the more tender and flavorful it will be.
Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:27 PM (AzV8L)

Right, and part of that is just simple economics -- the longer a pig is alive, the more it costs to feed and car for. So the factory farms try to raise animals as quickly as possible, to as high a weight as possible (they get paid per pound)... that inevitably leads to fat animals with very little muscle.

As opposed to taking several years to raise a pig, where the big is running around and exercising and eating a healthy pig diet -- much better distribution of fat (flavor) and muscle throughout the pig. But way more expensive to raise, and thus way more expensive for us as consumers to buy.

And we, as consumers, through the free market, seem to be saying "we're fine with lower quality for lower price."

But if you're going for higher quality, pay the higher price, and support farms that do a "better job" of raising animals, and in the long run, hopefully bend the cost curve down a bit.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 06:32 PM (GBteo)

436 213 I have a question. So how much time do you figure you spend on average a day, cooking and all? Like prepping, cooking,clean-up, etc?
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (lwiT4)

2-3 hours a day. No dishwasher though. My wife does most the dishes and cleanup and I do most of the cooking.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at September 23, 2018 06:32 PM (Rz2Nc)

437 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?

I'm guessing a BLEVE (boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion).

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 06:33 PM (3C9q2)

438 Sorry I was on a food coma.

The Barolo was a 2011 Monte Degli Angelin. Very good bottle. i

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 06:33 PM (xtmwf)

439 Veak, vomanish Japanese, who cannot master fire. They bring shame upon themselves, and dishonor to their ancestors.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:33 PM (fA1SL)

440 Of course, if you brine the chops you might not have to salt them. bluebell?
Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (AzV8L)
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I got back just in time! When I brine them (only for a couple hours), I rinse them afterwards, then pat dry. No need for further salt, even after cooking.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:34 PM (C1PQi)

441 406 When it comes to steak ...

Where have you gone chemjeff?

A foodthread turns its lonely eyes to you.

/s

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 06:25 PM (DMUuz)



He was better at cooking steak than political analysis.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 06:34 PM (cAnNx)

442 441. But it's not a binary choice!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:35 PM (fA1SL)

443 So the Wick Effect?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2018 06:35 PM (Dj5/i)

444 I'd never wet brine ribs. That's a recipe for mush on bones.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2018 06:36 PM (c07y/)

445

The juice is clear

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 06:36 PM (IqV8l)

446 and doesn't all that salt make the meat salty?


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 06:24 PM (rjbMC)

Sixty-mumble
years ago I remember the butcher telling my dad to NEVER salt meat
before cooking. Said it made the meat dry. He advised rubbing it with
lemon juice.

And I've done that for sixty-mumble years. Then, a
few months ago, my son cooked a steak that he'd salted liberally before
cooking it. I was aghast. Till I cut into the steak. It was juicy and
tender. Every piece of meat I've cooked since then has been salted
first.

Of course, if you brine the chops you might not have to salt them. bluebell?





Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM

Yep, salt on meat is the way to go if you are cooking at medium to high temps. I wouldn't salt any meat if I was doing it in the crock pot though.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 06:36 PM (JUOKG)

447 @433

I know, I know. "That's not sushi" many will say.

But, as I said, I don't like seafood, and I like raw seafood even less. And, having exactly one bite of eel sushi in my life, I know quite well what I WON'T like when it comes to sushi.

I know he has wanted to do sushi though, so...if I ca find something I can stomach, I'd like to. I'd rather do pizza or Mexican, but I'd at least like to offer.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:36 PM (TL2pK)

448 443. Another look at Spontaneous Human Combustion?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (fA1SL)

449 Well I think cooked sushi is about the only thing I'll be able to handle. Tempura something. MAYBE smoked salmon.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:31 PM (TL2pK)


Unagi is delicious, grilled, and covered with spicy sweet barbecue-style sauce. Downside: it's eel, so if you can't get over that, then it's probably not for you. But it's basically the BBQ bacon of sushi.

The flavor is mostly from the rice anyway, so don't feel like you have to get anything with fish if that really squicks you out.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (y87Qq)

450 The juice is clear

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


John has a long mustache

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (j1+Gy)

451 *stifling the mental image of Michael Moore oozing out of Antisocialists's g'ma's refrig*

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (AzV8L)

452 So, I went next size up, which was 20 inches. Holy
Moses! This thing was huge. It almost seemed like twice the pizza as a
large.



Side note: I am thinking of doing sushi for my guy. I am thinking if I can find a sushi that I would tolerate, I might do it.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:26 PM (TL2pK)

A 20" pizza is over double the size of a 14" pizza.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (rnXGe)

453 Pretty much anything I cook gets salt and pepper only.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (MVjcR)

454 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?
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oh geez, get ready to spend a week cleaning out the grease traps.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at September 23, 2018 06:38 PM (2NqXo)

455 Made pizza last night........dough recipe from Italy, on a pizza stone on the grill.
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 04:09

Sounds delish. If it's not too much trouble could you share the dough recipe?

We had a lousy apple crop this year. Last year was good, this year not so much. Which seems to be the pattern.


Posted by: Farmer at September 23, 2018 06:38 PM (yJ1e6)

456 453. Heh. I go through ginger and garlic and Shouju wine and black vinegar like Felonia with depends.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:39 PM (fA1SL)

457 Tickled Pink, see if you can find a Japanese restaurant that serves tempura and tonkatsu along with sushi. Then you can politely sample sushi but then tuck into some fried foods.

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 06:39 PM (kQs4Y)

458 A 20" pizza is over double the size of a 14" pizza.



Posted by: Brian


!

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:39 PM (j1+Gy)

459 So we had a nice Italian gravy, with three-meat meatballs and pork ribs. Rigatoni with fresh ricotta and mozzarella. Antipasti was caponata, Sicilian stuffed olives, anchovies with capers, imported provolone, hot/sweet sopressata, capicola and a bunch of other homemade specialties. Espresso is now brewing and pastries are out.

I'm gonna need to run 2 extra miles tomorrow

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 06:40 PM (xtmwf)

460 Oh, oh, Pinkster, if you're making it, you can do Spam Musubi, the redneck sushi.

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 06:40 PM (kQs4Y)

461 459. Spotted the guinea.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:41 PM (fA1SL)

462

Love Boat is on. Jan Brady is in this episode.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 06:41 PM (4o/yn)

463 Marcus T, is this a special occasion, or is this just Sunday dinner at the Marcus T home?

And how do I get an invitation?

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:41 PM (C1PQi)

464 Spotted the guinea.
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There were three points of data: "gravy", "anchovies", and "capers".

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 06:42 PM (kQs4Y)

465 Love Boat is on. Jan Brady is in this episode.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 06:41 PM (4o/yn)

Marcia Marcia Marcia

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:42 PM (6Zmow)

466 464. Yeah. Wasn't that difficult, I admit.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:42 PM (fA1SL)

467

So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?



A mess that would take at least three hazmat teams to clean up.

We're talking dead animals for a half-mile downwind.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 06:43 PM (HaL55)

468 459. Marcus T - so where in South Philly and/or Jersey did you grow up?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (fA1SL)

469
So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?

Secret's in the Sauce.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (6Zmow)

470 And as I'm reading about Marcus T's fabulous dinner, Andy Williams is singing the theme from The Godfather to me.

Coincidence? I think not.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (C1PQi)

471 President Trump appeared to blame Attorney General Jeff Sessions for the latest controversy surrounding Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein Sunday, saying that Sessions had hired Rosenstein to be his second-in-command.

He was hired by Jeff Sessions, Trump said in an interview with The Geraldo Show on WTAM radio. I was not involved in that process because, you know, they go out and get their own deputies and the people that work in the department.

Gee I don't know but it sounds like PDT has a real hard on for this guy sessions? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (Ydx5u)

472 @452

Well that makes sense now. It was only a couple of dollars more.

For those of you sushi connoisseurs, is it considered in poor taste to ask for a sushi roll without an ingredient? I do it at other establishments all the time. Just curious...

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (TL2pK)

473 453 Pretty much anything I cook gets salt and pepper only.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:37 PM (MV

Same. Unless it's something that would benefit from hot sauce or spicy mustard. Those are the only two condiments I routinely use. I have quite a collection of both mustard's and hot sauces.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (GBteo)

474 "bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:41 PM (C1PQi)"

This my dear is Every Sunday dinner. Sometimes a little lighter, but not really. Lol.

And you're always welcome. Italians make enough food to feed the neighborhood.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (xtmwf)

475 !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:39 PM (j1+Gy)

Should I have said it was over double the area?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:45 PM (rnXGe)

476 Grey2112--

That sounds like a genius approach to steak. I have used mayo on fish for years--the secret to traditional Boston baked scrod--but never thought about using it on steak.

And ditto on the restaurants if you know how to cook well. Our kids are always dragging us to the new, new thing and it's always crushingly mediocre.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at September 23, 2018 06:45 PM (S+f+m)

477 Brb

Dryer's done and it won't unload itself.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 06:45 PM (6Zmow)

478 431
420: anna, the resulting grease fire will burn your kitchen down. put the fat fuck on a spit, over a wood fire, OUTSIDE.

The image in my mind of a pole being pushed thru, a-hole to appetite and a crane to lift it all over the fire.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 06:47 PM (K22Va)

479 TP, fugu is a great ingredient for the beginning sushi roller.

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 06:47 PM (kQs4Y)

480 And you're always welcome. Italians make enough food to feed the neighborhood.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (xtmwf)
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Thank you! But you don't know what you're saying. My daughter lives in NYC now . . . I might have to visit . . . I'll bring the wine!

My other daughter lives in the North End in Boston. The family that owns Mike's Pastry owns her apartment building. That's where she went to sign the lease. They plied her with homemade breadsticks and other goodies, and told her if it was after 5 they'd give her wine too (it was something like 11 am).

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:48 PM (C1PQi)

481 Should I have said it was over double the area?


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


If 14 & 14 is 28, how is 20 bigger ?

(Show your work)

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:48 PM (j1+Gy)

482 BTW. We try to stick to tradition because nowadays everyone is working long hours during the week. It forces everyone to sit down and enjoy each other's company. No phones at the table. Just food and family.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (xtmwf)

483 One thing about grilling Michael Moore is the self basting

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (OOH1c)

484 480. Mike's! Best canoli in the city!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (fA1SL)

485 I quit adding salt to cooked food in my twenties when I learned my BP was around 4000/3000.
I use it verrrry sparingly on some things -and by sparingly I mean it's measured by the grain. So now I'm sensitive to anything heavily salted.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

486 Psst JT - area, not circumference. Square the radius.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (C1PQi)

487 No math or geometry. It's in the rules.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:50 PM (fA1SL)

488 It was only a couple of dollars more.

Why isn't there a Sergio Leone channel? 🤔

For those of you sushi connoisseurs, is it considered in poor taste to ask for a sushi roll without an ingredient? I do it at other establishments all the time. Just curious...
Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:44 PM (TL2pK)


Well it's not exactly the best way to make friends at a place where the best meal is omakase (chef's choice) but they won't kick you out or anything.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:50 PM (y87Qq)

489
So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?

Paper asshole combustion

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 06:50 PM (IqV8l)

490 If 14 14 is 28, how is 20 bigger ?



(Show your work)

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:48 PM (j1+Gy)

Area of a circle is pi x radius squared.
Oh, and a new accusation ab out Kavanaugh is on Drudge.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:51 PM (rnXGe)

491 I saw a red dildo on Drudge Report....developing?!?

Posted by: scrood at September 23, 2018 06:51 PM (sS5XO)

492 So I hear, Uncle Palp. She just moved in there Sept. 1, and I haven't been up since a little before that.

I'm going to lost 10 pounds before I go visit though, just in case.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:51 PM (C1PQi)

493 488. True. But such a move brings shame to yourself, and dishonor to your ancestors.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:52 PM (fA1SL)

494 OT, but I notice that even most of the pussycons aren't convinced about Jackie or whoever the Wimmens Martyr of the Week is. Mr Super-Expert expressed dismay that this seems to confirm Trump supporters' suspicions. (Right for once little Tommie. Now, think it through what that entails.)

And AssholePundit was reduced to an end-of-the-column hope that Avenati would save them.

Now if only we had 50 senators with spines.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 06:52 PM (59GGI)

495 area = pi times radius squared.
14" = 616 square inches20" = 1257 square inches

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:52 PM (rnXGe)

496 So predictable

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 23, 2018 06:52 PM (OOH1c)

497 If 14 & 14 is 28, how is 20 bigger ?

(Show your work)
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:48 PM (j1+Gy)

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Now I have a craving for pie.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:53 PM (I16G8)

498 Lets all salute the GOP for caving to all the bullshit delays!

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:53 PM (rnXGe)

499 Psst JT - area, not circumference. Square the radius.



Posted by: bluebell


Thank you.

You enjoyed that, dint ya ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:53 PM (j1+Gy)

500 True. But such a move brings shame to yourself, and dishonor to your ancestors.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:52 PM (fA1SL)


Well we're not getting that genie back in the barn door after the toothpaste tube has bolted anyway.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (y87Qq)

501 "Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:48 PM (C1PQi)"

We are not too far from West Point. Not a lot of good pastry up this way, so we drive to Brooklyn. Today's pastry came from Tasty Pastry in Brooklyn. There are a bunch of great places on 13th Avenue out that way. If your daughter ever goes in that direction, have her check it out.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (xtmwf)

502 ANOTHER WOMAN?


Try them in batches like a French Revolutionary Tribunal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (yQpMk)

503 You enjoyed that, dint ya ?
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:53 PM (j1+Gy)
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Ha. No, just the remnants of all those years of homeschooling. I whispered though, I hope you noticed.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (C1PQi)

504 !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:39 PM (j1+Gy)

Should I have said it was over double the area?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:45 PM (rnXGe)

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pi *r^2 for the win!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (+F0Wk)

505 Circles, how the fuck do they work!

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (rnXGe)

506 500. Laughing out the shoe on the other side of my face here, boss!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (fA1SL)

507 Area of a circle is pi x radius squared.
Oh, and a new accusation ab out Kavanaugh is on Drudge.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


He hit her in the mug with a pizza AFTER he honked her hooter ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (j1+Gy)

508 Jesus look at the drudge headline

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (Ydx5u)

509 All kidding aside, thanks Brian.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (j1+Gy)

510 nothing to see here.move along.

Posted by: red dildo at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (sS5XO)

511 502 ANOTHER WOMAN?


Try them in batches like a French Revolutionary Tribunal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (yQpMk)



I said several days ago that they've been looking for another accuser and that was part of the delaying tactic.


So does that mean I'm supposed to now become super belligerent to everybody acting like I'm a super Nostradamus and never shut the fuck up about it?

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (cAnNx)

512 OK, so what's the latest made-up allegation?

My thought on this poop-show is that it's actually being driven by Judge K. I get the impression that this is a man who guards his reputation very, very seriously. His denials are beyond the regular "I don't recall".

What if he's driving this?

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (ig+cH)

513 You dummies.

Pi R Round.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (cAnNx)

514 Kavanaugh to Give Calendars From 1982...


I was wondering if Kav kept a journal. My father encouraged me to do that when I was a teenager.


I'd be burning them now, I'm sure.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (yQpMk)

515 What if he's driving this?
Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (ig+cH)

driving what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (Ydx5u)

516
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:39 PM (j1+Gy)

Should I have said it was over double the area?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:45 PM (rnXGe)

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pi *r^2 for the win!
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 06:54 PM (+F0Wk)


No, Pi r round...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Neanderthal of LaMunchies at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (NgKpN)

517 Holy crap! Ford was molested by another woman?!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (MVjcR)

518 Lmfao at drudge...what an absolute joke this has become

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (OOH1c)

519 I've decided to indulge the Californians on their lame cardboard pizza.

They perform up to their cabability.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (EZebt)

520 Jesus look at the drudge headline

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (Ydx5u)
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Don't listen to him, people. Save yourself. It's too late for me, but save yourself.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (C1PQi)

521 Hair Pi, I pound!

Posted by: red dildo at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (sS5XO)

522 Re: Drudge, well of course there is another woman, this one didn't work. And if the next accusation fails, there will be another after her.

Bastards.

Posted by: Mirror Universe Eris at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (kQs4Y)

523 Ha. No, just the remnants of all those years of homeschooling. I whispered though, I hope you noticed.


Posted by: bluebell


Well, if I didn't I'm sure everyone else did !

Thanks, Bluebell !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (j1+Gy)

524 508
Jesus look at the drudge headline





Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (Ydx5u)

Someone just lit the #neverskankles signal!
In fairness the only think he's been wrong about was Kavs withdrawal.
This shit is going to last till January.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (rnXGe)

525 Laughing out the shoe on the other side of there face there.

Posted by: Boss Grump at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (yQpMk)

526 Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (Ydx5u)

What if he's the one forcing Grassley/Trump into this hearing nonsense so he can "clear his name"?

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (ig+cH)

527 504 Posted by: No One of Consequence

Wrong!!

Pie r round.

Cornbread r square.

Sheesh!

Posted by: ibguy at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (vUcdz)

528 There's not even a single Slavaboo in Congress willing to punish the Demozeks?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (jlHSA)

529 What if he's driving this?
Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (ig+cH)

Why would he be driving it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (AllCR)

530 #nevernotnevertrump is probably dehydrated and chafed at the latest news.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (fA1SL)

531 In fairness the only think he's been wrong about was Kavs withdrawal.


And, at various times, Flake, Collins, and Coke Bear being Neighs already.

Posted by: Boss Grump at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (yQpMk)

532 @488

Yeah and it's HIS sushi place, so I definitely don't wanna do anything to make him feel uncomfortable about going back.

Last time, he took me to this amazing 4 star restaurant, and I asked for the soup without the garnish, and they couldn't have been more accommodating and agreeable.

In my regular life, it's not unusual for me to order a philly, no mushrooms, etc. I guess I wasn't sure how sensitive sushi chefs (is that the right word) was.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (TL2pK)

533 Thanks, Bluebell !
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 06:57 PM (j1+Gy)
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Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (C1PQi)

534 What if he's the one forcing Grassley/Trump into this hearing nonsense so he can "clear his name"?
Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 06:58 PM (ig+cH)

They clear your name on page 29 on the bottom
They besmirch it on the Front Page is bold headlines

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (Ydx5u)

535 Jesus look at the drudge headline

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (Ydx5u)

----------------

Don't forget the Drudge has become mostly clickbait. I can't even click through to the stories. Is it just me?

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (I16G8)

536 It's very thoughtful of you to pretend that the rest of us aren't beyond saving, bluebell. Speaks well of your character.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (y87Qq)

537 Seriously people - is it too much to ask if you're going to say something like "look at that freaking Drudge headline" that you, you know, put the headline in your post?

Yeah, I'm a lazy shitheel. I'm not looking it up myself 'cause I'm not giving Drudge the traffic.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (ig+cH)

538 They are just delaying so they can pay someone else to say he did something to them!

This is so obvious yet the idiot repubs fall for it everytime.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (YoaSV)

539 531 In fairness the only think he's been wrong about was Kavs withdrawal.


And, at various times, Flake, Collins, and Coke Bear being Neighs already.

Posted by: Boss Grump at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (yQpMk)



His 800 declarations that Trump has sold us out...

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (cAnNx)

540 Jesus look at the drudge headline



Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 06:55 PM (Ydx5u)

Leave me out of this shit.

Posted by: Jesus at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (rnXGe)

541 Area=PirSquared

Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (rW4va)

542 531 In fairness the only think he's been wrong about was Kavs withdrawal.


And, at various times, Flake, Collins, and Coke Bear being Neighs already.
Posted by: Boss Grump at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (yQpMk)

Not so sure about Flake...

Posted by: Hikaru at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (jlHSA)

543 You dummies.

Pi R Round.
Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 06:56 PM (cAnNx)

The mirror image of 3.14 is PIE.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 07:00 PM (+F0Wk)

544 Sessions helped create the senate horror show by not endorsing Roy Moore. Moore was disgusting but he was an important vote. No wonder PT detests sessions.

Posted by: Ever at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (OLS0m)

545 They clear your name on page 29 on the bottom
They besmirch it on the Front Page is bold headlines


He's a judge, not a politician. He knows nothing of this.

I admit, it's far-fetched. It just seems to me that Kav is a guy who is really, really protective of his rep.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (ig+cH)

546 Of course there are going to be other women.

That's what all the stall tactics were about. Finding someone else willing to jump in.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (jlHSA)

547 Cornbread r^2

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (MVjcR)

548 It's all moot. Kav withdrew last Tuesday EOB.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (yQpMk)

549 In fairness the only think he's been wrong about was Kavs withdrawal.


And, at various times, Flake, Collins, and Coke Bear being Neighs already.

Posted by: Boss Grump at September 23, 2018 06:59 PM (yQpMk)

He is wrong about almost everything he says, not matter what the outcome here

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (Ydx5u)

550 Pinkster-

Isn't sushi just raw fish ?

Can't ya just go catch a shiner ?

Will he know the diff ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:02 PM (j1+Gy)

551 He is wrong about almost everything he says


but never in doubt.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:02 PM (yQpMk)

552 Who reads Drudge anymore? Isn't that like Alex Jones on meth?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 07:02 PM (xtmwf)

553 548
It's all moot. Kav withdrew last Tuesday EOB.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (yQpMk)

Skanlkes never said which Tuesday...

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (rnXGe)

554 549. Dude. He's not wrong, per se. He's just a shill for the other side.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (fA1SL)

555 I beg to differ..

Remember yesterday when I was a NeverTrump troll for pointing out the obvious that Flake was a no? Good times.

Who is next? I say Murkie by 4pm est today.

And I stand by my prediction that Kav withdraws by tomorrow EOB.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 17, 2018 01:58 PM (iD4Ml)

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (yQpMk)

556 I love cornbread.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (j1+Gy)

557 If I want to know about Drudge, eventually Mrs. Franpsycho will mention it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (EZebt)

558
Looks like the Jon Gruden experiment failed.

Dallas stinks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 07:04 PM (4o/yn)

559 Failed 2016 presidential candidate and former Florida governor Jeb Bush says Americans who are urging for immigration controls are threatened by their perception that the United States is changing and becoming less white.

Thank G-D this putz never got elected outside of FL

What an ass...the whole fuckin family

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 07:04 PM (Ydx5u)

560 They're about to tell us that Kavanaough told a dirty joke once.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:04 PM (rnXGe)

561 Dallas stinks.


Are they having some kind of sporting event?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:05 PM (yQpMk)

562 Who reads Drudge anymore?
Isn't that like Alex Jones on meth?
...developing...
Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 07:02 PM (xtmwf)

ftfy

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:05 PM (y87Qq)

563 It's all moot. Kav withdrew last Tuesday EOB.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:01 PM (yQpMk)

Skanlkes never said which Tuesday...
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (rnXGe)

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Come on! #nevercorrect was just early with his prediction. Just ask him.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 07:05 PM (I16G8)

564
Our perception??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 07:05 PM (4o/yn)

565 Arr is rost. Prease to kirr serf now.

Posted by: Tokyo Rose at September 23, 2018 07:05 PM (H5knJ)

566 Isn't sushi just raw fish ?

Posted by: JT


Nope. It literally refers to the vinegared rice. Put a piece of broccoli on the vinegared rice, it's sushi.

SASHIMI is the raw fish.

Does sushi usually mean raw fish on vinegared rice? Yes.

Exclusively? No.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2018 07:06 PM (c07y/)

567
Every time I make a phone call to my bank or a govt office, the very first thing I hear is SPANISH.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 07:06 PM (4o/yn)

568 554 549. Dude. He's not wrong, per se. He's just a shill for the other side.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (fA1SL)

At this point what's the difference between shilling for the Commiecrats, and just expecting the GOPe to sell out 100% of the time?

Not to defend Skank, because he was trying to rub it in everyone's faces, but at this point, what reason do we have to NOT expect Flake to keep stabbing us in the back?

Posted by: Hikaru at September 23, 2018 07:06 PM (jlHSA)

569 Thank G-D this putz never got elected outside of FL


Bless him and his $30M a delegate campaign. Some people's purpose is to be an object lesson.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:06 PM (yQpMk)

570 If it's true what Tucker said, that if they delay longer than next week he can't be confirmed by some rule, it's kind of obvious what's up. Time to grow a pair and vote, fvck this crap already.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 07:06 PM (K22Va)

571 Dallas stinks.

The mavericks are playing already?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (Ydx5u)

572 I love cornbread.
Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (j1+Gy)


Same. Also pastel de elote. It's like corn bread, but in pudding form, with extra butter. And then more butter, and jalapeños.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (y87Qq)

573 By the end of the Week the Drudge headline will be "Fifty Shades of Brett?"

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (xPl2J)

574 Failed 2016 presidential candidate and former Florida governor Jeb Bush says Americans who are urging for immigration controls are threatened by their perception that the United States is changing and becoming less white.

( Looks at New Hampshire (95% white) )
( Looks at California (57% white, and dropping like a stone) )

Yeah, can't imagine why anyone would be worried about, Jeb! ole boy.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (ig+cH)

575 568. Because the Flake fears the gopnik. He knows what he's earned.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (fA1SL)

576 So now I'm sensitive to anything heavily salted.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

Me too. I had to give up salt the first time I got pregnant due to swelling of my feet and ankles.
Never started back on the stuff after the baby was born.

Posted by: ALH at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (6Zmow)

577 My favorite calzones ever were deep fried instead of baked. A place next to Stokes Forest in Northern NJ made them that way and I have never forgotten them.

Posted by: kbdabear at September 23, 2018 07:08 PM (0Ntuf)

578 If it's true what Tucker said, that if they delay longer than next week he can't be confirmed by some rule, it's kind of obvious what's up.


If there is such a rule, we haven't heard of it yet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:08 PM (yQpMk)

579 The GOP is so stupid to let this farce continue. Of course someone else will make up some shit and come out of the woodwork.

Hope Flake is happy, but the whole point was to try and get at Trump anyway he could on his way out. It was never about this crazy woman telling her story.

Posted by: Blago at September 23, 2018 07:08 PM (UfkIY)

580 So if you grilled Michael Moore at 451F, what happens?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 23, 2018 06:29 PM (Dj5/i)

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the grease fire from hell...

every so often you read about a crematorium burning down, because they were trying to cremate some fat bastard.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 07:08 PM (rjbMC)

581
Cowboys were down 24-6, late in the 4th. They scored a TD and they were celebrating like it means something.

This is why football sucks dick today. The stupid dancing. The stupid gestures. These players act like goofy teens.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 07:08 PM (4o/yn)

582 554 549. Dude. He's not wrong, per se. He's just a shill for the other side.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (fA1SL)

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He works hard for his money.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 23, 2018 07:09 PM (PkIg+)

583 Vote - put everyone on record (including the traitor Flake) so we can see what the mid-terms are really about

Posted by: rammajamma at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (xceTB)

584 Chuck Grassley said last night on Twitter, "I feel like I'm playing 2nd trombone in the judiciary orchestra and Schumer is the conductor."

Nothing he can do about it. The dems run the Senate.


Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (2NqXo)

585 so, is the nfl still a thing? i'll be damned.

Posted by: dr chavez THE hugo md, phd at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (KP5rU)

586 If there is such a rule, we haven't heard of it yet.

Tucker said it on one of his shows last week? No link, sorry.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (K22Va)

587 He works hard for his money.


Seems like a poor investment but boy he sure doesn't want to take my bet that would keep him off the site for a week. So, either paid or a serious OCD Unclefucker.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (yQpMk)

588 One of my fav sushi rolls is Kappa maki with shiso and umeboshi.

It's the rice roll with cucumber, sweet basil, pickled sour plum, and the nori wrapping.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (c07y/)

589 Bring it on, girls. This man is bulletproof.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (AzV8L)

590 Beef for all but non-SMR dishes is to he marinated in one tablespoon each, per pound, of soy sauce, xinjiang wine, black vinegar, ginger, garlic, and five-spice powder. This is the Law.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (fA1SL)

591 Will we ever get another nominee onto the court again? Because it appears the left will just yell RAPE or some other smear and it will cause delays forever and nothing will happen.

GOP is so fucking cowardly it makes my blood boil.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 23, 2018 07:11 PM (YoaSV)

592 MoveOn.org is bussing in protestors for the hearing. They're having a training meet tonight in DC at a church. Lodging and bail is included.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:11 PM (rnXGe)

593 Like I told a neighbor with a Beto sign - do not come to my house when this gets real.

Posted by: rammajamma at September 23, 2018 07:11 PM (xceTB)

594 Vote - put everyone on record (including the traitor Flake) so we can see what the mid-terms are really about
Posted by: rammajamma at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (xceTB)

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Flake has no phuchs to give. He is not running again. I agree with you otherwise.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 07:12 PM (I16G8)

595 Motherfucker, he would be on the court right now had they just voted last week!!!!!!!

But Grassley and band of idiots decided to extend deadlines 100 times!

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 23, 2018 07:12 PM (YoaSV)

596
Failed 2016 presidential candidate and former Florida governor Jeb
Bush says Americans who are urging for immigration controls are
threatened by their perception that the United States is changing and
becoming less white.

=====

Yeah, globalists and Merkel toadies. What everyone forgets is that one of the Bushes is a textbook salesman (Neil?). Think about the national educational standards push and the textbook sales. Obscene amounts of $$$.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 07:12 PM (MIKMs)

597 "I use it verrrry sparingly on some things -and by
sparingly I mean it's measured by the grain. So now I'm sensitive to
anything heavily salted.Posted by: Weasel

yeah, the recent meme here and some places is that the salt thing is baloney ... use all the salt you want, except for certain salt sensitive people. They told me that when I was cutting back on salt for high BP.

BUT just a little research shows it is not quite proven that salt is no issue for most, and I have seen studies showing other reasons it may be good to reduce salt, as many doctors are still saying (maybe just to keep the lawyers happy, idk).

One sailing friend of mine long ago had a friend we were sailing with, just happened she was a heart surgeon. I said I sweat working during the day, I sweat playing sports at night, how can salt be an issue? She said, for you, no problem. But we had beer/wine to drink, sailing to do ... that was that.

I don't trust the "studies show" that salt is no issue. And it is easy enough to avoid. (eggs, good/bad cholesterol ... they flipped on that as well) that's all I have to add.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 07:12 PM (Cus5s)

598 But Grassley and band of idiots decided to extend deadlines 100 times!

While true, I have to believe at least the WH expected this.

That said, Grassley knows he can't do dick because Chucky Schumer is running the Senate.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (ig+cH)

599 so, is the nfl still a thing? i'll be damned.
Posted by: dr chavez THE hugo md, phd at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (KP5rU)


Know what else is?

Jiffy Pop popcorn. The pans, the foil tray with the wire handle. They're hanging on the shelves and you can just walk past them for years and never notice, because who's looking for it? Who buys it? Popcorn you make on a stove? But it's still there, and it's as fun to make and eat as it ever was.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (y87Qq)

600 Tucker said it on one of his shows last week? No link, sorry.
Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (K22Va)

Tucker is wrong. He might be seated on Court when it starts the new session in OCT but there is not deadline

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (Ydx5u)

601 Gun thread should be fun

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (rnXGe)

602 Gun thread up.

Posted by: Basement Cat at September 23, 2018 07:14 PM (3C9q2)

603 Hand 'em a few more feet of rope, Chuck. Let's make sure they're good and dead.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 07:14 PM (AzV8L)

604 I'm so sick of the "white is evil" whining.

I'm only half white, and I know there are people out there who would send me "Back to Africa" if they had their choice (hi, Takimag Comments Section), but I'd still vote for someone who'd "Send Me Back" before I'd vote for a GloboCommie.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 23, 2018 07:14 PM (jlHSA)

605 @566

Wait....the rice tastes vinegary?

Okay I am starting to think the sushi thing is definitely not worth it.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 07:14 PM (TL2pK)

606 I don't trust the "studies show" that salt is no issue. And it is easy enough to avoid. (eggs, good/bad cholesterol ... they flipped on that as well) that's all I have to add.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 07:12 PM (Cus5s)

Spoiler: no matter what you eat, eventually you're going to die.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 07:15 PM (NWiLs)

607 If there is such a rule, we haven't heard of it yet.

Tucker said it on one of his shows last week? No link, sorry.
Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (K22Va)

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They can still hold a full Senate vote for Kav even if the Committee is a "no" recommendation or a "no recommendation" vote. Clarence Thomas was voted in this way.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 07:15 PM (I16G8)

608 One of my fav sushi rolls is Kappa maki with shiso and umeboshi.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (c07y/)


Doesn't she sell shiso sushi by the seashore?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:15 PM (y87Qq)

609 Dragging this back to food . . .

Dr. Mrs. T. grilled sweetbreads for dinner tonight. I helped get a nice bed of coals ready on the grill. She cooked 'em fast and hot, and they were GOOD. Like a cross between steak and liver.

Now I know there's some pussies out there who get all triggered at the thought of organ meat, but here's something for you to consider: you're wrong.

Accompanied by home-cooked potato chips and a Vaucluse red wine. Definitely a good day.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2018 07:15 PM (4mD7U)

610 Me @ 598

And when I said "the WH expected this" by this course I mean an weekly parade of "victims" of Judge Rapey McKavRaper.

Soros' pockets are deep, deep, deep and these "victims" know there is precisely zero downside to this.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:16 PM (ig+cH)

611 Waves at Farmer!

1 cup warm water
1 package active dry yeast or fresh active yeast
2 1/2 to 3 cups unbleached all purpose flour
2 tablespoons olive oil
1/2 teaspoon salt
Pinch of sugar

Combine the water, yeast, and 1 1/2 cups of flour. Mix well. Add oil, salt, sugar and 1 cup of flour. (Save the last 1/2 cup if needed to make the dough come together) Work the ingredients until the dough comes together and knead for 5 minutes. Transfer to a lightly oiled bowl and let rise 1 hour.

Alternatively, we were taught to start it in the morning with the yeast, 1/4 cup flour and 1/2 cup of water. It creates a nice slurry. Then I dump everything in the kitchenaid and let it go. Our oven has a proof setting which is nice. Also we were taught after the dough is proofed to slam it on a hard surface 10-15 times to break down the gluten.

I put the crust on the pizza stone for about 4 minutes before adding toppings. As others have said I use corn meal to have it slide off the peel.

Hope you are well

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at September 23, 2018 07:16 PM (c1nDO)

612 592
MoveOn.org is bussing in protestors for the hearing. They're having a
training meet tonight in DC at a church. Lodging and bail is included.

Shit, you know there's a lot of cash being passed out. If there are no legal consequences for accusing Kav of who knows what, there's probably a line a mile long of volunteers.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 07:16 PM (K22Va)

613 Wait....the rice tastes vinegary?

Okay I am starting to think the sushi thing is definitely not worth it.
Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 07:14 PM (TL2pK)


It's rice with dilute rice vinegar and sugar. I don't think I'd call it vinegary, just a little tangy and sweet.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (y87Qq)

614 Wait....the rice tastes vinegary?

Okay I am starting to think the sushi thing is definitely not worth it.
Posted by: TickledPink


Only slightly. When they cool the rice they add a sugary/vinegar solution to it and stir it to cool it down in a wooden 'bowl'.

You won't taste it unless you're a supertaster. It compliments the items they add on top.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (c07y/)

615 If the idiot GOP expected it, then why hasn't he already been confirmed yet? Why just wait around so more "victims" can appear out of thin air!?

It is all because a few repubs are traitors.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at September 23, 2018 07:17 PM (YoaSV)

616
I saw a red dildo on Drudge Report....developing?!?





Posted by: scrood at September 23, 2018 06:51 PM

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This is another baseless accusation to cover for herr doktor ford refusing to testify on Thursday which will extend the circus after the first of October so Kavanaugh can't be seated on the Court.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (JUOKG)

617 If the idiot GOP expected it, then why hasn't he already been confirmed yet?

The Stupid Party

Sorta speaks for itself, eh?

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (ig+cH)

618 Tucker is wrong. He might be seated on Court when it starts the new session in OCT but there is not deadline

Ok, thanks. Good to know.

Posted by: dartist at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (K22Va)

619 Honestly, the secret to all delicious meats is to buy quality, expensive
meat at a butcher shop -- preferably meat that is sourced from an
actual farm.


Schwann's sells a pretty fine pork chop, both bone-in and out. They have the fat that's missing in the regular store-bought chops.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at September 23, 2018 07:20 PM (j0Oc6)

620 Maybe Jon Kyl should be telling Flake to STFD and STFU.

Maybe RazorFist should be freaking out over this.

Posted by: Hikaru at September 23, 2018 07:21 PM (jlHSA)

621 "Jeb Bush says Americans who are urging for immigration controls are

threatened by their perception that the United States is changing and

becoming less white."

these globalist fluckers that call traditional America racist as they profit from third world slave labor ... they are evil and vile arses that have no interest in American VALUES of our founders.

We fight for individual liberty, NOT for the right of the Bushies to take our country captive via their CIA DeepState. He should ask DaddyBush about some of those covert activities. Open Borders is just war against American Freedom and Liberty.

I hate those globalist flucks.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 07:21 PM (Cus5s)

622 Honestly, the secret to all delicious meats is to buy quality, expensive meat at a butcher shop -- preferably meat that is sourced from an actual farm.

Seconded.

If it's free-range and naturally fed (grass for beef, for example), so much the better.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 07:21 PM (ig+cH)

623 I think the deadline is for scheduling.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 23, 2018 07:21 PM (PkIg+)

624 721.
Me too. Hate them.

Posted by: Martell at September 23, 2018 07:28 PM (ZVokc)

625 Oh gee why would I feel threatened when almost every day there's yet another article about how evil White people are and how something will have to be done about them?

If someone keeps telling you they want to kill you, it's probably a good idea to take it seriously.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 07:30 PM (4ErVI)

626 I know he has wanted to do sushi though, so...if I
ca find something I can stomach, I'd like to. I'd rather do pizza or
Mexican, but I'd at least like to offer.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 06:36 PM (TL2pK)

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find a sushi place that also serves food: there's one near here that does teriyaki steak, along with the cat food.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 07:33 PM (rjbMC)

All Aboard The Good Ship KristolPop

The article is almost a year old, but it is as fresh and lovely as ever. Any time somebody takes a shot at Cruise Director Bill is a good time, and this one is particularly sharp and cutting.

Put Up or Shut Up: Bill Kristol in 2018

Kristol is the founder and editor-at-large of The Weekly Standard and inarguably the most anti-Trump of the NeverTrump Republicans. He has cleverly carved out a niche for himself as the Left’s go-to guy for a nasty comment or tweet about the president. Kristol’s criticism also extends to the president’s staff, family, and voters. He rants about Republicans in Congress who support Trump and smugly doles out advice about how they can usurp the president’s power and agenda. For all of Kristol’s invective, somehow Democrats have emerged untouched.
It’s sad, really.

He is also a prolific political loser, notoriously backing unqualified, unappealing candidates with no chance of winning. This includes Alan Keyes, Sarah Palin, and Evan McMullin to name a few. He repeatedly said Trump would lose the primary; when he didn’t, Kristol insisted Trump would lose the general election in a landslide. Scores of articles catalog his lousy policy ideas, laughable endorsements, and failed predictions.

If you are running for office, beware the Curse of Kristol.


One of the most laughable things about Bill Kristol is that his NeverTrump mania is devoid of anything other than smug snark and elitist haughtiness. If he had anything of substance to say about President Trump it would go a long way toward making it easier to take him seriously, or at least not laugh uproariously and make fart noises with your hands.

Well, on second thought, no that's not the case. He is a perfect pompous asshole, and nothing can save him from that.

And...something delightful below the break...

******


Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




Comments

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1 Roomy!

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 02:05 PM (I16G8)

2 Did I jump to the bottom of the page?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (0tfLf)

3 Not much of a jump.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (0tfLf)

4 *manspreads*

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (NWiLs)

5

I'd rather go on the Southern Rock cruise with Dickey Betts and Lynrd Skyrd.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:08 PM (4o/yn)

6 Bill who?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:08 PM (GBteo)

7 HELLO....

Hello....

hello...

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 02:08 PM (0tfLf)

8 King Kristol of Cuckistan. What a joke he's become. I wouldn't have lumped Palin in there with Keyes and McMuffin though. She actually was appealing. The other two, not as much, and I actually like Keyes somewhat. He's just way too strident for most people's taste, I think.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:09 PM (NWiLs)

9

Puppeh dawg looks like me on the dance floor. No idea what I'm doing, but happy to be there.

Happy to be anywhere, TTTT.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:09 PM (HaL55)

10
I have no idea what I'm doing but an happy to be involved! And have a Soros funded deposit in my Swiss account!

Posted by: Dr. Fnord out of the woodwoork comes at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (UFLLM)

11
Doggy thinks bipedal wants to play.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (LsBY9)

12 *steals all the rum*

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (N1ZXu)

13 Puppeh dawg looks like me on the dance floor. No idea what I'm doing, but happy to be there.

Happy to be anywhere, TTTT.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:09 PM (HaL55)

Well me to, IF I am drunk.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (Ydx5u)

14 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:11 PM (rjbMC)

15
Dog >>>>> Kristol

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:11 PM (LsBY9)

16 Sarah Palin was neither unqualified nor unappealing, but I can't deny that she had absolutely no chance of winning. Being shackled to a ticket that was determined to drive straight off a cliff did not improve her chances much either.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:11 PM (y87Qq)

17 Cuck ho!

Posted by: Cuck Ship Lollipop at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (XcgmW)

18 12 *steals all the rum*
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (N1ZXu)

sotto voce

What boulder toilet hobo doesn't know is we already drank all the rum and replaced it with...used rum. Let's see how long it takes before the difference gets noticed.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (NWiLs)

19 Can't wait for Cap'n Billy to come out here to Seattle to take a cruise. After he pulls his nose out of our senator's butt he can go pay homage to Lenin's statue then settle in for a whale watching cruise to Alaska.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (0tfLf)

20
Kristol: bankrupt aristocrat sneering at well-to-do businessman.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (LsBY9)

21 Being shackled to a ticket that was determined to drive straight off a cliff did not improve her chances much either.
Posted by: hogmartin

Hey! I'm doing as much for her now as I was then!

...Zombie McCain...

Posted by: Bruce at September 23, 2018 02:13 PM (8ikIW)

22 All a'cuck that's going a'cuck!

Posted by: Cuck Ship Lollipop at September 23, 2018 02:13 PM (XcgmW)

23 That doggeh is the video is awesome! Great Danes are outstanding family dogs. You just have to not mind picking up poos with a snow shovel!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:13 PM (DAdSz)

24 Very cute little video. I was on need of something amusing. Thanks, CBD.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 02:13 PM (AllCR)

25 Chardonnay and penis will be served on the lido deck at 1800 hours!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (NWiLs)

26 16 Sarah Palin was neither unqualified nor unappealing, but I can't deny that she had absolutely no chance of winning. Being shackled to a ticket that was determined to drive straight off a cliff did not improve her chances much either.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:11 PM (y87Qq)

I've thought about the 2008 campaign since then... I don't really think Palin did anything wrong or could have done anything better.

The media was in seek and destroy mode, and I'm really not sure she could have beat that back. Especially as a VP candidate, where you're stuck within the confines of what the person at the top of the ticket dictates.

She was a woman, so she had to be destroyed.

She had a midwest'ish accent and didn't go to the ivy league, so the medias hook was "haha! look at this stupid hick" and no matter what she did, that was going to be how they framed every story about her.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (GBteo)

27
Texans stinking up the joint as usual.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (LsBY9)

28 ...and I don't think we can underestimate how much Tina Fey and SNL affected the popular image of Palin -- I'd guess 90% of people who had heard the "I can see Russia from my house!" quote would attribute that to Palin, not Fey.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:15 PM (GBteo)

29 Waiting for Kristol to get on the "conservatives are rapey" Democrat bandwagon at any moment...

Posted by: TexasJew at September 23, 2018 02:16 PM (c+cGk)

30 Tweeting has cost Cap'n Bill whatever tiny amount of credibility he may once have had.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 23, 2018 02:16 PM (nBr1j)

31
When's the best time and what cruise line for an Inside Passage cruise?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 02:16 PM (UFLLM)

32 She was a woman, so she had to be destroyed.

She was a woman who was not Of the Body, and therefore had to be destroyed. She was not an authentic woman in their eyes, so savaging her in the vilest terms possible wasn't just fair game, it was mandatory.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:17 PM (NWiLs)

33 Palin would have made a good secretary of interior or something like that.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:18 PM (zLMtM)

34 Tonight on the Lido Deck will be a Meet-and-Greet with John Kasich, former Governor of the great state of Ohio, where courting via the crawlspace under your house is considered common practice.

Posted by: William Kristol, Editor-At-Large at September 23, 2018 02:18 PM (Z9C5C)

35 It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you can fill those cruise ship cabins!

Posted by: Captain "Cuck" Kristol at September 23, 2018 02:18 PM (I2/tG)

36 I h ope PDT tells the fucking worthless Senators on the Judiciary Committee to grow a pair and defend not only Kavanaugh but also the Country

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:18 PM (Ydx5u)

37 According to an article in the Atlantic Monthly, Captain Bill spent his 2017 Weekly Standard cruise seeing how far he could troll his Trump-supporting patrons.

I hve not seen any notice of a 2018 cruise. Wonder why?

Posted by: Valiant at September 23, 2018 02:18 PM (3MiF8)

38 28. I loved Sarah, I think she outshone Mcstain almost immediately and that pissed him off royally.
I never liked Tina fey but her whole impersonation thing really made me angry, especially when SNL would not even touch the light bringer.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:19 PM (DAdSz)

39 Capt bill...
That big puppy has all his junk.
Can he come aboard?

Posted by: First mate jonah at September 23, 2018 02:19 PM (24tKv)

40 She was a woman, so she had to be destroyed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (GBteo)


Even worse, she was charismatic, the distaff answer to Obama. THAT'S why she had to be destroyed.

"We'll see your plausible Negro, and raise you an attractive woman."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:20 PM (YdaIJ)

41 Hey! I'm doing as much for her now as I was then!



...Zombie McCain...


Has finally performed the ONE bit of public service I voted for him to do.

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 02:20 PM (FhXTo)

42 Sarah Palin was never, is not, and will never be the problem or part of the solution...it is the by and large worthless Republican Party that is the Problem and so far the only solution I am seeing is PDT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:20 PM (Ydx5u)

43 Thank you so very much for the dog video! Still laughing.

Really needed it after two days with my eldest (soninlaw is fixing the old car). She grew up in household of big dogs and four kids and she is shocked at how dogs behave. Really?

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:20 PM (MIKMs)

44 That candidate list is idiotic. Vastly, obviously, completely different cases and stories. McMullin's the only one that makes the author's point.





Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (QDnY+)

45 That American Greatness article was fantanstic.

Posted by: TexasJew at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (c+cGk)

46 Even before NR went insane I always thought the cruise thing was weird. Who spends $3k to listen to Jonah G pontificate out on the open seas?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (zLMtM)

47 Just try and get your specially bred Russian fox to do that.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balks at September 23, 2018 02:22 PM (H5knJ)

48 I've thought about the 2008 campaign since then... I don't really think Palin did anything wrong or could have done anything better.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (GBteo)


Her counter could have worked against an opposition that had any shred of dignity or decorum or shame, but it seems like nobody really appreciated at the time how fundamentally vile they really are.

I think about the R candidates in the last few elections and how I considered them at the time, weighing their relative tenacity as "fighters". It's risible. And then PDT comes in and at first I'm thinking "ugh, he's going to make us look awful" and then "wait, is he swinging a chain at that guy's face" and then "OMG it is literally raining teeth on that stage, this is the best thing ever, more please".

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:22 PM (y87Qq)

49 I could never square how the media vilified Sarah but Hitlery and all her bs just floated along without nary a peep. To me it was the beginning of really seeing not only the double standards of the media complex but the corruption of the government.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:22 PM (DAdSz)

50

One of the most laughable things about Bill Kristol is that his NeverTrump mania is devoid of anything other than smug snark and elitist haughtiness. If he had anything of substance to say about President Trump it would go a long way toward making it easier to take him seriously, or at least not laugh uproariously and make fart noises with your hands.

You know you're coming up on your 29th birfday (and receiving all the wisdom due someone of that advanced age) when you start hearing all the stuff that doesn't get said.

F'rinstance, did you ever notice how Progressives never quote our Constitution as justification for anything? Take a look at this Kavanaugh circus: we have elected officials pretty much dismissing that whole "due process" thingy. Hell, even Grassley won't mention it, which is rather curious in the extreme. That Hirono rep pretty much said so in that Jerk Tapper interview when axed if Kav deserves the basic legal right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. Any answer other than "certainly so according to our laws" is dead wrong. This is coming from someone who swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution? What's wrong here?

Only PDT has mentioned anything about a police report. If what Kav was alleged to have done was bad enough to derail his SCOTUS appointment, it should've been bad enough to file a police report right after it happened.

Grassley should say as much on Monday right before he calls a vote to confirm.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:22 PM (HaL55)

51
I saw Plausible Negro open for NWA at the Spectrum. Attendance 17,777.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 02:23 PM (LOgQ4)

52 Please bring water!

Posted by: Capt Kristol`s Aral Sea Cruise Line at September 23, 2018 02:23 PM (yhf6w)

53 What Moron wouldn't love a chance to play Good Ship Lollipop over KristolPop's intro sometime?

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 02:23 PM (FhXTo)

54 Please bring water!
Posted by: Capt Kristol`s Aral Sea Cruise Line at September 23, 2018 02:23 PM (yhf6w)

From what I hear Kristol could not hit water if he fell off the side of the ship

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (Ydx5u)

55 46 Even before NR went insane I always thought the cruise thing was weird. Who spends $3k to listen to Jonah G pontificate out on the open seas?
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (zLMtM)

I think the idea was to bring like minded business leaders, political types and "intellectuals" together so that they could network.

It's what the left does every day.

It's not a terrible idea. If I own a company, all things being equal, I'd rather send some business to a conservative then a jackoff lib.

At least, I think that was the theory.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (GBteo)

56 I think how Palin got treated was a major stepping stone to the rise of Trump.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (4ErVI)

57 Say my name!

Posted by: bill 'blue' kristol-meth at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (Evws/)

58 speaking of that, what ever happened to "where's the rum"?

did she get a life?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (rjbMC)

59 32 She was a woman, so she had to be destroyed.

She was a woman who was not Of the Body, and therefore had to be destroyed. She was not an authentic woman in their eyes, so savaging her in the vilest terms possible wasn't just fair game, it was mandatory.



She was an evangelical Christian woman who didn't abort her Down Syndrome son. Christian and prolife makes you not a real woman.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:25 PM (lwiT4)

60

Just try and get your specially bred Russian fox to do that.

The Russian fox just ate the miniature Russian giraffe.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:26 PM (HaL55)

61 58 speaking of that, what ever happened to "where's the rum"?

did she get a life?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (rjbMC)

I asked this question a few months ago and someone said she disappeared around 2012 because people were calling her a Romney shill. I think that's what it was. Something to do about Romney and rude people.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:26 PM (4ErVI)

62 50. Grassley did mention due process in a statement about negotiating w/Ballsey team.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 02:27 PM (wy4/l)

63 Apparently Patty Murray's long hold on the title of Dumbest Senator is in real peril. The airhead from HI, Hirono, is making a move.


Apparently this morning on TV she blazed legitimately new, jaw-dropping territory in the Dems' ongoing effort to create a completely idiotic, lawless, hate-based society (talking about Kav, of course).


Won't take time away from cleaning 30-06 brass and washing dishes to look at it, but some here are gluttons for punishment, so, passing it along.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:27 PM (QDnY+)

64
So how's everyone enjoying the season before Winter?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:27 PM (4o/yn)

65 56 I think how Palin got treated was a major stepping stone to the rise of Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (4ErVI)

I think Trump studied it, as well. Because he did come up with ways to counter it.

The media portrays Republicans as:
a) stupid (Bush, Palin, etc.)
b) rich and out of touch (Romney, McCain and has 8 mansions)
and/or
c) evil (Romney's dog, McCain, Bush)

So Trump countered (a) by talking about his brilliant businesses and how amazing Wharton is, best school ever and all of that. He just completely embraced (b). and (c) never really stuck, mostly because he's a funny guy. I guess the "we can't trust Trump with the nuclear codes! he's a nut!" thing was a good try, but I don't think anyone really bought it.

So he was able to parry the media and left's normal attacks.

I think the only way he did it so well was by studying how others had failed.

And I think the only reason we put up with Trump's ridiculousness was because we've watched the media make some combination of those 3 arguments against every R since, what, Ike? Lincoln? It's the same playbook every fucking time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:28 PM (GBteo)

66 64
So how's everyone enjoying the season before Winter?!?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:27 PM (4o/yn)

Winter? What is this winter you speak of?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:28 PM (NWiLs)

67
We are 3/4's through 2018.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:28 PM (4o/yn)

68 Kristol is, and always has been, an RNCe stooge. he doesn't have a conservative bone in his body.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 02:29 PM (mpXpK)

69 Cubs, Brewers and Packers are all playing. Now. At the same time.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:29 PM (lwiT4)

70

Thanksgiving is around the corner.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:30 PM (4o/yn)

71 I think how Palin got treated was a major stepping stone to the rise of Trump.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (4ErVI)


Yes, agree. Dignity and grace got her nothing but mockery. It didn't work. Lesson learned, point taken. Time for the chain. It's hard to giggle derisively when Barron's on the floor playing with a pile of your teeth and making car noises.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:30 PM (y87Qq)

72 The results from my search of "bill kristol cruise" returned the Weakly Substandard link first and then Ace of Spades!

Posted by: Octopussy at September 23, 2018 02:30 PM (xG5hO)

73 Grammie, are you watching two TVs and an iPad?! Lol

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:30 PM (DAdSz)

74
Major social and cultural changes should be made

Through the traditional democratic process: elections, legislation and popular lobbying.

Through grass-roots organizing.

This is the True Nature of Socialist Democrats.

Posted by: Jamal Khina at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (oYD2h)

75
Columbus Day is early this year. Oct 8.

#twoweeks

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (4o/yn)

76

Thanksgiving is around the corner.


Christmas will soon be at our throats.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (HaL55)

77 The thought of winter makes me want to shoot my eye out.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (lwiT4)

78 He gets paid the big bucks and is wrong all of the time.
No wonder he wears a permanent, self-satisfied smirk.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (dI3/S)

79 31
When's the best time and what cruise line for an Inside Passage cruise?

We did the inside passage on princess. 3rd week of May. Absolutely beautiful weather. White pass train at Skagway, float plane ride at Ketchikan

My photos at jerryschiller dot com

Posted by: Hartman at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (/U9ke)

80
I love Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (4o/yn)

81 speaking of that, what ever happened to "where's the rum"?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (rjbMC)

Check with "Sodomy And The Lash."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (wYseH)

82 Mr. Metokur has another live stream starting at 1500 EST. It's likely to be more Sargon e-drama but that's more interesting to me than rehashing the GOPe surrender du jour.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (DTX3h)

83 76. I prefer thanksgiving, it is just food, family and football.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (DAdSz)

84 She was an evangelical Christian woman who didn't abort her Down Syndrome son. Christian and prolife makes you not a real woman.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:25 PM


I have a daughter-in-law that I try to like. But she refers to Palin as 'that woman'. As in, 'I was okay with John McCain until he added *that* woman to his campaign.

I seldom let my feelings remain unknown when I'm around this person. I'll give everyone in the room a hug or a handshake when I leave. Her? I just turn my back and walk away from.

Someday... she'll be a better person. She sure isn't one now.

This young womans Mom? Pure MAGA.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (LOgQ4)

85 72 The results from my search of "bill kristol cruise" returned the Weakly Substandard link first and then Ace of Spades!

Posted by: Octopussy at September 23, 2018 02:30 PM (xG5hO)

We need to get Ace's links in the first few slots.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (4ErVI)

86 It didn't help Palin any when McShitty's aides were the ones pumping out all the shit about her.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 02:33 PM (mpXpK)

87 I like Alan Keyes. He's just not made for elected office. If we had the position of Kahless the Unforgettable, he's be perfect for it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, Twice as Smug as You at September 23, 2018 02:33 PM (yQpMk)

88 Cheribabe - one TV and two iPads. It's crazy.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:33 PM (lwiT4)

89 Dear Harry P -- I don't find anything 'ridiculous' about PDJT. Even as a prim Midwesterner, he does not offend me in the least. I really admired Palin for doing the great job she did not knowing that she was really chosen as a loser. Something about fraternities/sororities choosing the 'ugliest' people to be invited to a party. Maybe it is a coastie thing to put people out in public to ridicule them.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:33 PM (MIKMs)

90 Amusing tidbit (no source details) from WiredNews on the twatters:


"Sources say Democrats are increasingly concerned Dr Ford's allegations won't sound credible, after all four witnesses, including lifelong friend, debunk allegation"


Similar:


"AGW enthusiasts increasingly concerned that all their models are random number generators, no predictions coming true"


"Japanese leadership increasingly concerned that populace not believing positive war news because battles keep happening closer and closer to home islands"


"Clinton strategists increasingly concerned that Hillary not 50 points ahead"

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:34 PM (QDnY+)

91 Wouldn't you think that a guy with his own publication could articulate a rationale for his opposition to Trump/Trumpism? But none of these douchebags, most of whom publish a constant stream of snark and stampy-footed outrage, never seem to articulate the rhyme or reason to it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 02:34 PM (oVJmc)

92 I recall the Journolist went ape when Palin began swinging Soccer Moms, that's when they colluded to attack her when, face it, VP positions in every past modern U.S. election were treated as a joke no one ever cared about but now was about being 'one heartbeat away'.

Posted by: andycanuck at September 23, 2018 02:35 PM (Evws/)

93 82.
Sunday Fun-Day.

Looking forward to it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:35 PM (fA1SL)

94 Wait. Rear Admiral Bill backed Sarah Palin for something? This makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:35 PM (CPfoe)

95 And they just agreed to the Thursday hearing... I know she has been proved a liar but what the everliving FUCK!?!



https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/hearings

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 02:35 PM (FTXAT)

96 Soothsayer - what part of the country are you in? Do you have ice fishing in May?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:35 PM (lwiT4)

97 I love Winter.


Where I live, the winter weather is not really winter at all. But I don't like the short days.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:36 PM (yQpMk)

98 Ooo grammie that would give me a migraine! Although if the sound was off on all three it would be ok.
Goooo Cubbies!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:36 PM (DAdSz)

99 Absolutely awesome video! Thanks. Perfect application to the post.

Still get angry though. The media did an absolute number on Sarah Palin.

She was put out there by the McCain campaign with relatively little experience. And when the Democrats and media barbarians swarmed in to savagely trash her and her family, not one GOP wimp - purportedly her fellow party members who just maybe should have had her back- lifted a finger to defend or support her.

Her party acted like the little kids in first grade when an older, bigger bully decides to target someone. They stand back, watch the show, and then even laugh or go along because they are so glad they aren't the target.

Naw, we don't need someone who fights in the oval office. Not at all.Not when we have the cruiservatives on our side.

Have to sign off, getting too irritated on a Sunday to bloviate further.

Posted by: RM at September 23, 2018 02:36 PM (U3LtS)

100 Bill Kristol is still grieving over the loss of John McCain.

Now THERE was Ruling Caste, and it was MAGNIFICENT!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:37 PM (CPfoe)

101
Grammie, are you watching two TVs and an iPad?! Lol
=====

Two turntables and a microphone . . . (I really like that song for some reason.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (MIKMs)

102 do they say if she is going to testify under oath?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (lwiT4)

103 Check with "Sodomy And The Lash."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (wYseH)
---
Ya got me.

Posted by: The Lash at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (ivXxG)

104
Sources close to the food thread tell me today's poat will be about Pink Himalayan Sea Salt.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (4o/yn)

105 101
Grammie, are you watching two TVs and an iPad?! Lol
=====

Two turntables and a microphone . . . (I really like that song for some reason.)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (MIKMs)

Bottles and cans and just clap your hands
Just clap your hands

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (NWiLs)

106 And they just agreed to the Thursday hearing... I know she has been proved a liar but what the everliving FUCK!?!



Skanks should take my bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (yQpMk)

107 No matter who McStain chose, Obama was going to win. He was the right candidate at the right time. It was a once in a lifetime perfect storm for him to step up and be coronated.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (zLMtM)

108
But I don't like the short days.

I love when it's dark at 4:45pm.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (4o/yn)

109 89 Dear Harry P -- I don't find anything 'ridiculous' about PDJT. Even as a prim Midwesterner, he does not offend me in the least. I really admired Palin for doing the great job she did not knowing that she was really chosen as a loser. Something about fraternities/sororities choosing the 'ugliest' people to be invited to a party. Maybe it is a coastie thing to put people out in public to ridicule them.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:33 PM (MIKMs)

Well, I mean, I like the guy -- but he is definitely ridiculous. I laughed out loud when he said (in response to Rubio talking about the size of his hands, and the inferences therein) "there's no problem there, believe me."

It was a ridiculous thing to say. I loved it, but he says ridiculous shit all the time.

As for Palin? Yeah, she was dealt a bum hand. And, fair or not, hinterland accents hinder national political career advancement.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (GBteo)

110 93 Sunday Fun-Day.

Looking forward to it.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:35 PM (fA1SL)


I'm definitely looking at Carl with a more jaundiced eye as of late. That could be the cirrhosis, though.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 23, 2018 02:40 PM (DTX3h)

111 Two turntables and a microphone . . . (I really like that song for some reason.)
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (MIKMs)


Because Odelay was a really good album, that's why. You're welcome.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:40 PM (y87Qq)

112 IIRC, Palin endorsed the current AK governor (an Independent.) He's urged Murk to vote against BK. Surprised that Palin would endorse an Independent so unfriendly to a PT selection for SC.

Posted by: Ever at September 23, 2018 02:40 PM (OLS0m)

113 4:45? You must be south of me.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:40 PM (lwiT4)

114 102
do they say if she is going to testify under oath?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (lwiT4)

Doesn't matter if she is under oath or not. It just changes the name of the law she can get charged under if caught lying. They both carry the same penalty. 5 years and/or $5K.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 02:40 PM (mpXpK)

115 107 No matter who McStain chose, Obama was going to win. He was the right candidate at the right time. It was a once in a lifetime perfect storm for him to step up and be coronated.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (zLMtM)

The financial crisis sealed the deal. No one was going to beat Obama once that hit.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (4ErVI)

116 Cage match. Billy vs Sarah
$20 on Sarah

Posted by: Big Dog at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (gR5Gl)

117 Interesting that all Judiciary Dems continue hiding from the press - that is, no interviews. Wallace says all declined invites for 2nd week in a row.


Not too difficult to see what's going on. A very, very crude late hit smear job that will collapse the second it's challenged must be preserved, so, no interaction where an inconvenient question might arise.


And GOP remains (mostly) paralyzed by fear of Julia, even though 1) Julia's not swaying these mid-terms, and 2) no reason to think this outrageous nonsense has gained any traction with Julia.*


* Julia is the idealized young single airhead female from Obama's re-election campaign - an unwitting self-evisceration by the "progressives" of their desperate dependence on ignorance, hysteria, bigotry, fear, and the lack of a real press in manipulating particular blocs of voters

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (QDnY+)

118 Of course they agreed to Thursday. There was never any doubt just like there was no doubt on the other 10 GOP capitulations.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (zLMtM)

119 104
Sources close to the food thread tell me today's poat will be about Pink Himalayan Sea Salt.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (4o/yn)

It comes from Pakistan.

...And I'm not convinced it tastes different than any other salt you need to grind. But I'm a fan of grinding salt, the big chunks do an excellent job when preparing a steak for the grill.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (GBteo)

120 No matter who McStain chose, Obama was going to win. He was the right candidate at the right time.



I still think he had a good shot. Suspending his campaign to go from being The Guy to just one of a hundred douchebags was bad. Even then, had he voted No and given a rousing defence of the free market and limited government to justify it, he could still have pulled it off.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (yQpMk)

121 And they just agreed to the Thursday hearing... I know she has been proved a liar but what the everliving FUCK!?!







Skanks should take my bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (yQpMk)

I know he will be confirmed but FFS there is no reason to delay and let this liar testify (I would make book she never shows though).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (FTXAT)

122

4:45? You must be south of me.

East.

The shortest days here, at the end of December, the sun sets at like 4:30p.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (4o/yn)

123 107 No matter who McStain chose, Obama was going to win. He was the right candidate at the right time. It was a once in a lifetime perfect storm for him to step up and be coronated.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM (zLMtM)



Sounds like you enjoyed every minute of it.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (lwiT4)

124
He is also a prolific political loser, notoriously backing unqualified, unappealing candidates with no chance of winning. This includes Alan Keyes, Sarah Palin, and Evan McMullin to name a few. He repeatedly said Trump would lose the primary; when he didn't, Kristol insisted Trump would lose the general election in a landslide. Scores of articles catalog his lousy policy ideas, laughable endorsements, and failed predictions.

Well, he went to Harvard, after all. Undergrad and Ph.D. So that's Dr. Cuck to you, flyover peon!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (LsBY9)

125 Thanksgiving is around the corner.


Christmas will soon be at our throats.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:31 PM (HaL55)

--------

Then New Years Eve creeps up your urethra.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (CPfoe)

126
But I'm a fan of grinding salt,...

It is fun, isn't it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (4o/yn)

127 ...And I'm not convinced it tastes different than
any other salt you need to grind. But I'm a fan of grinding salt, the
big chunks do an excellent job when preparing a steak for the grill.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (GBteo)

They sell big slabs to actually cook meat on... delicious!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (FTXAT)

128
What's better than grinding Salt, or Pepper, or Coffee?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (4o/yn)

129
Well, he went to Harvard, after all. Undergrad and Ph.D. So that's Dr. Cuck to you, flyover peon!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (LsBY9)

Didn't realize that he had a PhD. That's... kind of a weird choice for someone who is not a professor.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (GBteo)

130
It kinda feels like you're rustic or something.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (4o/yn)

131 Grassley wants to be Billy's first mate on the HMS Cuck.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (r9UYA)

132 They sell big slabs to actually cook meat on... delicious!


You cook on the slabs of salt? Like a pizza stone?

Intriguing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (yQpMk)

133 Pink Himalayan salt gets its color from very small amounts of Yeti blood.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (NWiLs)

134 Thanks Vic for the info.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (lwiT4)

135 Anyone know why I can only make short posts?

Posted by: Boone at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (vDqhG)

136 128 the scent of fresh homemade ice cream, mmmmmm!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (DAdSz)

137 Then New Years Eve creeps up your urethra.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (CPfoe)


It really does, doesn't it.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (y87Qq)

138 She was an evangelical Christian woman who didn't abort her Down Syndrome son. Christian and prolife makes you not a real woman.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:25 PM (lwiT4)
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Nutshell.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (WEBkv)

139 128
What's better than grinding Salt, or Pepper, or Coffee?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (4o/yn)

Definitely something primal about it. "I don't need your industrial ground salt, I'm perfectly capable of grinding my own, like a real cave man would have done."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (GBteo)

140 Of course they agreed to Thursday. There was never any doubt just like there was no doubt on the other 10 GOP capitulations.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (zLMtM)

How did last Tuesday work out for your prognostication average, Scanks?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (FTXAT)

141 Just wondering when Grassley will figure out Ford is another Democrat fraud. It's the Russian Dosaier, with a vagina.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (w5kO1)

142 You have to admit that Bill Kristol was gold in The Princess Bride.

Posted by: Boone at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (vDqhG)

143
Sounds like you enjoyed every minute of it.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:42 PM (lwiT4)

+++

LOL LOL!

Posted by: washrivergal at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (dI3/S)

144 Anyone know why I can only make short posts?
Posted by: Boone at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (vDqhG)


Spitballing here - you're on an iOS device and you're using quotation marks and apostrophes in your longer comments?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (y87Qq)

145 135 Anyone know why I can only make short posts?
Posted by: Boone at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (vDqhG)

My ex girlfriend asked me that question all the time. Unfortunately, science doesn't really have an answer to that yet.

Hopefully some day. In a world where Viagra exists, you never know...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (GBteo)

146 Anyone know why I can only make short posts?


Are you typing them in? Or cut and paste?

Pixy is hinkty about the character sets.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (yQpMk)

147 Yeah, what is "ridiculous" sort of depends on your practical intelligence, experience, seriousness, knowledge, and smarts.


Thus, Obama was ridiculous to anyone with a clue. Saw him up close first time, was hard to stifle actual laughter (some of his colleagues were mocking him, making it hard not to laugh inappropriately). Of course every time he opened his mouth, it was pathetic.


But not to people who can listen to NPR or BBC without laughing or instantly fisking their crap, in real time.


Worst political class, ever. Partially made possible by dumbest, least practically intelligent, worldly "educated" class ever.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (QDnY+)

148 You cook on the slabs of salt? Like a pizza stone?



Intriguing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:43 PM (yQpMk)

Yep!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 02:46 PM (FTXAT)

149 Harry P

Not just midwestern accents. Any regional accent is poison and not just politics. There is an entire industry out there to remove accents from people's speech. May not be right or fair or whatever, but it is the way of the world.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:46 PM (GRHih)

150
Bill Kristol is the Stooge who always was saying, "Not so haaaard!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:46 PM (LsBY9)

151 No matter who McStain chose, Obama was going to win. He was the right candidate at the right time. It was a once in a lifetime perfect storm for him to step up and be coronated.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:39 PM


You like to cup the guys balls at the moment of insemination, don't you?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 02:46 PM (LOgQ4)

152 Grassley know she*s a fraud, he*s just an imbecilic puppet engaging in theater because that*s what they do!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (DAdSz)

153 $20 on Sarah

Posted by: Big Dog at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (gR5Gl)

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only if i get to tuck it into her G-string...


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (rjbMC)

154 Himalayan Sea Salt resulted from the Indians crashing their subcontinent into Asia.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (CPfoe)

155 How on heaven's earth does Columbus Day comes any earlier than any other Columbus day?

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (T4oHT)

156 Any regional accent is poison

GWB, twice elected President, wept.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (yQpMk)

157 Not just midwestern accents. Any regional accent is poison and not just politics. There is an entire industry out there to remove accents from people's speech. May not be right or fair or whatever, but it is the way of the world.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:46 PM (GRHih)

It's true. Luckily we New Englanders are accent-free and can seamlessly blend in wherever we go.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (GBteo)

158 >>141
Just wondering when Grassley will figure out Ford is another Democrat fraud. It's the Russian Dosaier, with a vagina.

Forget it. He probably has a tough time finding his Senate office on a good day.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (r9UYA)

159 How much does one get paid to be a Soros paid troll?
I could use some extra money and am sure I could do just as good a job as (rhymes with HeverRankles)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (AllCR)

160 There was never any doubt just like there was no doubt on the other 10 GOP capitulations.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (zLMtM)

And pray tell what were the 10 others?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:48 PM (Ydx5u)

161
Interesting that all Judiciary Dems continue hiding from the press -
that is, no interviews. Wallace says all declined invites for 2nd week
in a row.
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HI Hirono (D - dimwit) appeared on Jake the Tapper. How dare he ask her about the presumption of innocence.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:48 PM (MIKMs)

162 There isn't a single part of Fords story that's been found truthful or verifiable.

Sasquatch sightings have more credibility.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:48 PM (w5kO1)

163
Any regional accent is poison

Zombie FDR disagrees.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (LsBY9)

164 The most neutral American accent is in the Pacific NW.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (GRHih)

165 Any regional accent is poison

GWB, twice elected President, wept.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (yQpMk)

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BJ Clinton too.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (I16G8)

166 Anyone know why I can only make short posts?

Posted by: Boone at September 23, 2018 02:44 PM (vDqhG)

---
it's based on the size of your hands...


Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (rjbMC)

167 GWB, twice elected President, wept.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (yQpMk)

Johnson and Kennedy both had accents, too.

But they say Kennedy at least worked to suppress his. idk, I've never heard his accent from anyone not named Kennedy or John F Kerry.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (GBteo)

168 Only basis for a Thursday hearing is one unconfirmed tweet from Pergram citing "tentative" agreement, and now repeated general comments from Ford camp about interactions with staff on details.


As I said earlier, odd that no general confirmation of Thursday event has come from committee.


And to offer a rare invidious comment, anyone who is familiar with the actual specifics of the interactions would know that the committee has not capitulated on anything of importance. Unless a brazen rejection of the whole (obviously fraudulent) smear job was the only thing that wouldn't be "capitulation".

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (QDnY+)

169 How much does one get paid to be a Soros paid troll?
I could use some extra money and am sure I could do just as good a job as (rhymes with HeverRankles)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (AllCR)


You don't just get handed cash, sadly, it all goes into a company account and once you get over $20 you can take it out in krokodil.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (y87Qq)

170

Have they agreed to let her testify last?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (4o/yn)

171 164 The most neutral American accent is in the Pacific NW.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (GRHih)

They are not unpleasant to listen to, for sure. And, like New Englanders, it's very hard to place where they are from based on an "accent."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (GBteo)

172 I'm trying to think of a President that didn't have a regional accent. Ike maybe. Nixon was pretty neutral.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (yQpMk)

173 169. Industry-standard practice, then.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (fA1SL)

174
Impenetrable accents: Scottish and Ulster.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (LsBY9)

175
btw, does anyone here believe the goons in the gallery will allow Judge Kavanagh to speak without them shouting?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (4o/yn)

176 time to go out for a Home Depot run. That's as exciting as it gets around here. Sad!

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (+/IpI)

177 Any regional accent is poison
GWB, twice elected President, wept.
=====

WJC weeps as well.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (MIKMs)

178 Why has the tone suddenly changed to "We'll be there Thursday, hell or high water?"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (dNzKv)

179 At what point to we start calling Ford a sexual assault fraud, who used a phony allegation for politics and in the process hurt real victims?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (w5kO1)

180 Only basis for a Thursday hearing is one unconfirmed tweet from Pergram citing "tentative" agreement, and now repeated general comments from Ford camp about interactions with staff on details.



No, it's on the calendar now,


Nomination of the Honorable Brett M. Kavanaugh to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States (Day 5)

http://bit.ly/2xxNEa5

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (yQpMk)

181 Have they agreed to let her testify last?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (4o/yn)


----------

She's now insisting on having M&Ms in the Green Room, with all of the yellows removed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (CPfoe)

182 Regardless of the reputation of Neverskankles on this fine blog, I believe Obama would've beaten anyone challenging him.

The Iraq War was never popular, Bush spent most of the time rolling on the ground covering his balls while the Dems beat him senseless (refusing to fight back is weak), first serious black candidate (I know but most people thought this anyway), it's rare to get three terms for one party, McCain sucked, and the financial crisis provided a huge amount of cover for King Coffee.

YET...I clearly remember McCain pulled ahead for a brief time after picking Palin. She was intriguing enough that it pushed him up for a time. Then the crisis hit and they sank back and never recovered.

What occasionally haunts me is that McCain as president would've most likely been an absolute disaster of more wars. The potential existed there to banish the party to the wilderness for a generation. We may have dodged a bullet. Obama was bad but he could've been far, FAR worse. Fortunately he lacked important attributes like not being a lazy piece of shit. Imagine if he had Trump's drive and will to power. That's not saying he didn't do damage. Obamacare was bad enough but the real horror set in during his second term where his administration ramped up the SJW stuff. We're still suffering from it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (4ErVI)

183 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (AllCR)


I could use the extra bucks too. The church treasurer told Rev they can't afford to pay him this week. So if you see Soros, give him my number.

How did today go for you?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (lwiT4)

184 HI Hirono (D - dimwit) appeared on Jake the Tapper. How dare he ask her about the presumption of innocence.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 02:48 PM (MIKMs)

She is the dumbest bint int he Senate

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (Ydx5u)

185 181. Wait! So, no Mazie?

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (fA1SL)

186 Let's see...moved hearing cuz hurricane, then from original Thursday vote, the 3 deadlines Friday then 2 deadlines Saturday ....that's 8.

So my bad, not 10 capitulations, only 8.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (GRHih)

187 My little calico kitteh Bug (RIP) used to do pushups with me. She'd run into the room and flop down on her belly then stand up. Wish we had gotten video of it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bro Hug Guy at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (An2kO)

188 Impenetrable accents: Scottish and Ulster.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (LsBY9)


https://stoatnet.org/english.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (y87Qq)

189
At what point to we start calling Ford a sexual assault fraud, who used a phony allegation for politics and in the process hurt real victims?

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM


The validity of the charges pales in comparison to the severity of them.

Posted by: Leftist Backpacker at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (LOgQ4)

190 172 I'm trying to think of a President that didn't have a regional accent. Ike maybe. Nixon was pretty neutral.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:50 PM (yQpMk)

My argument was hinterland accents hurt you.

NY, MA, and even TX accents don't seem to be an issue. Although Trump doesn't have a strong accent, and FDR had a weird upper-class clipped way of speaking more than a traditional NY accent.

And Bush could kind of turn his on and off (but he was called stupid all the time by the media, in part due to his accent.)

Clinton? His accent seems to have faded over the years. He did have one in the early '90s when I listen to clips from back then.

Obama? No discernible accent, I don't think.

HW? Same, he was from new England.

Reagan, despite being from the midwest, seemed to have lost the accent by the time he ran for pres...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (GBteo)

191 She is the dumbest bint int he Senate
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:52 PM (Ydx5u)

--------

Patty Murray owes her a debt of gratitude.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (CPfoe)

192 Sarah Palin gave a great speech. In some ways, she "shot her wad" all at the beginning. After two weeks she ran out of material. While she went after Jeremiah Wright, McStain never did. It was McStain's fault.

btw, She would be a good Sec. of Energy.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (3HNOQ)

193 179 At what point to we start calling Ford a sexual assault fraud, who used a phony allegation for politics and in the process hurt real victims?
Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (w5kO1)



Last Tuesday.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (lwiT4)

194 McCain's biggest hindrance was McCain, and the fact that a lot of his base hated his arrogant ass.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (oVJmc)

195 Standard American English (SAE), whole Pacific coast and much of the southwest, controversial concept in linguistics, but the era of electronic communications (in which the standard was/is SAE) doesn't lie.


De facto "standard" accent.


In the Arab world, numbers and dominance in media made Egyptian Arabic standard. American case is more curious.


When electronic communications, primarily TV, developed post-WWII, Pacific coast was not dominant in any sphere, population increase and economic booms were still in their infancy.


Yet most of the voices heard on TV, and increasingly on radio, were SAE, and eventually almost entirely so.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (QDnY+)

196 NOBODY was going to beat the magic negro unless they went all out and call him out for being a commie, muzzie lover, racist, and outright enemy of the United States. And no one was going to that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (Ydx5u)

197 She*s now insisting on having M&Ms in the Green Room, with all of the yellows removed.

BFD, we can special order any color mm*s warrior princess coo coo head wants.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (DAdSz)

198 RESCHEDULED NOTICE OF
COMMITTEE HEARING CONTINUATIONThe Senate
Committee on the Judiciary hearing on the nomination of the Honorable Brett M.
Kavanaugh to be an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States will continue on
Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 10:00 a.m.

So much fail.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (r9UYA)

199
YET...I clearly remember McCain pulled ahead for a brief time after picking Palin. She was intriguing enough that it pushed him up for a time. Then the crisis hit and they sank back and never recovered.


He pulled ahead for about a week following the convention. It was a convention bounce that every candidate gets. Other than that he never led.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (GRHih)

200
She is the dumbest bint in the Senate

Posted by: Nevergiveup


Whoa, below the Murray Line?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (LsBY9)

201 btw, She would be a good Sec. of Energy.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (3HNOQ)

---------

Bring it.

Posted by: The Resistance at September 23, 2018 02:55 PM (CPfoe)

202 They should close all these hearings in the future.

That would be the end of the the Democrats circus.

Advice and consent of the senate is dead.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:55 PM (w5kO1)

203 She is the dumbest bint in the Senate

Posted by: Nevergiveup

Whoa, below the Murray Line?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:54 PM (LsBY9)

I think so. And that is quite the achievement

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:55 PM (Ydx5u)

204 Fact: that dog used to belong to John Cleese.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 02:55 PM (/qEW2)

205 Strap in!
Sunday Fun Day is about to begin!

https://youtu.be/wQBmdiFpVSw

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:56 PM (fA1SL)

206 Trust me...

Original Thursday vote will not be moved

Monday Hearing will not be moved

KAV will be confirmed

Red wave is coming

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:56 PM (GRHih)

207 They should close all these hearings in the future.

That would be the end of the the Democrats circus.

Advice and consent of the senate is dead.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 02:55 PM (w5kO1)

fuck it..no more hearings. Let's just have a all the hearings in Salem MASS.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:56 PM (Ydx5u)

208
"There isn't a single part of Fords story that's been found truthful or verifiable."


Mareen Dowd says her story is even more truthy than the Anita Hill story so we must believe. That's good enough for millions of lib lemmings and should be for the old white men bullying her.



Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 02:56 PM (MxEKc)

209 206. So take Grump's bet.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (fA1SL)

210 Cucking, exciting and new....come aboard, we've been cuckspecting yooooooooooo

Posted by: Captain William Kristol at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (k5hWy)

211 She needs M&Ms made with macadamia nuts colored in a unique shade of pink never used in the food industry before, pre approved by the full planned parenthood board. For women, you know?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (dNzKv)

212 The bet is still out there skanks. Have the courage of your conniptions.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (yQpMk)

213 199 McCain never led Becca use he never fought, he never said anything other than *they call me the sheriff-heeheehee*

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (DAdSz)

214 Neverskankles - did you vote for Trump? Do you usually vote R, D, or Other?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (lwiT4)

215 The bet is still out there skanks. Have the courage of your conniptions.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (yQpMk)

It's a drive by accusation thrower

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:57 PM (Ydx5u)

216 174 Radio news just said "it is official, the Senate committee has scheduled a briefing for Thursay. I bet the liar will not show.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (mpXpK)

217 PDT's twatter is strangely silent today.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (r9UYA)

218 Becca use = because
damn cucumber

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (DAdSz)

219 The only way the senate could get dumber is for Sally Kohn to get elected.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (dNzKv)

220 Have the courage of your conniptions.

Good one. LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (AllCR)

221 btw, She would be a good Sec. of Energy.
Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 02:53 PM (3HNOQ)


I would establish a new cabinet position for Secretary of Girls With Glasses. And an executive Department of Girls With Glasses.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (y87Qq)

222 Fox News also has the story.


http://tinyurl.com/y9fr7ndd

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (mpXpK)

223 PDT's twatter is strangely silent today.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (r9UYA)

Maybe his putter is hot
And when I say putter, I mean....

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (Ydx5u)

224

She is the dumbest bint int he Senate


She should resign immediately or her constituents should demand same since she refuses to uphold her oath of office.

Why are we as a nation tolerating any language from any official that doesn't comport with the Constitution and its principles at all times? If you dare even question due process, you have no business in office because you aren't doing the peoples' work.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (HaL55)

225 61 58 speaking of that, what ever happened to "where's the rum"?

did she get a life?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:24 PM (rjbMC)

I asked this question a few months ago and someone said she disappeared around 2012 because people were calling her a Romney shill. I think that's what it was. Something to do about Romney and rude people.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 02:26 PM (4ErVI)


I heard she was in the entertainment industry and if she were discovered hanging out here it could sink her career.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (4HMW8)

226 Kav will be confirmed.


Vulnerable Senate Dems are in materially worse spot than before.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (QDnY+)

227 PDT's twatter is strangely silent today.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (r9UYA)


--------

Too quiet.

*puffs pipe with pained look of foreboding*

Posted by: The Resistance at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (CPfoe)

228 It's a drive by accusation thrower


His flounce didn't last long. And his resistance to the month of silence. His income might not allow it, though I would think paying this douche would be a waste of money.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (yQpMk)

229 Rumor has it Twatter silenced James Woods

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (DAdSz)

230 Maybe his putter is hot
And when I say putter, I mean....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (Ydx5u)


Isn't that when you're supposed to strike?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (y87Qq)

231 There is nothing unique about her story that hasn't been portrayed in 1000 teen movies and after school specials.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (dNzKv)

232 Obama was an empty suit kept inflated by the media. There was no way to attack him because he was entirely a media creation.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (oVJmc)

233 Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (4o/yn)

Hopefully they'll have more police there, and everytime they do this the left looks bad.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (AllCR)

234 There are other cruises. The one I get references to is the Contra Cruise which is a cruise packet set up by Tom Woods and Robert Murphy.

And the whole point is to meet and mingle and network with small L libertarians who do a sideline in Austrian economics.

Or maybe it is the other way around.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (mUa7G)

235 I will no believe the Edsel is going to show till it's over. I would not doubt she starts to cry and get's up and leaves and just leaves a non-questionable fallsified written statement on the desk and blames the mean male republicans

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (Ydx5u)

236 Kristol: bankrupt aristocrat sneering at well-to-do businessman.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (LsBY9)

He wants to be Samuel Johnson for the modern age, I think... The distinguished man of letters and insight. Too bad the only thing he actually shares with the good doctor is body fat percentage, and I'll bet Johnson could pull even that off better than him.

Posted by: Vanya at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (7PLM4)

237 PDT's twatter is strangely silent today.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (r9UYA)


--------

Too quiet.

*puffs pipe with pained look of foreboding*





The drums have stopped!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (yQpMk)

238 The drums have stopped!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (yQpMk)


Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (y87Qq)

239 Himalayan Sea Salt resulted from the Indians crashing their subcontinent into Asia.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (CPfoe)


And they say the Asians are bad drivers.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (T71PA)

240 Trumpentwatter goes quiet fairly often. Or is restricted to routine event stuff, the equivalent of "quiet".


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (QDnY+)

241 Grammie

Yep voted for Trump. ALSO FOR romney and yes McStain too. I voted for Al Gore, and Clinton in 1996. I was young and stupid. Since then only Rs for prezzie.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (GRHih)

242 But not to people who can listen to NPR or BBC without laughing or instantly fisking their crap, in real time.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (QDnY+)


For a while I carpooled with an earnest (read: retarded) liberal who used to put on NPR every goddamned time, although he knew I'm conservative. Typical ignorant liberal.

I thought about getting a Limbaugh podcast (I don't listen to him normally) just to turn the tables.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (YdaIJ)

243 Red wave is coming

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 02:56 PM (GRHih)
----------------

Now, you're just tiresome.

Maybe you should get together with Mr. Kristol and enjoy a cruise together.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (WEBkv)

244
At what point to we start calling Ford a sexual assault fraud, who used a
phony allegation for politics and in the process hurt real victims?
=====

The same time that Hillary cackling about 'winning' her case against a kid who was permanently disabled from a sexual assault becomes media 'truthiness'.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (MIKMs)

245
156 Any regional accent is poison

GWB, twice elected President, wept.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 02:47 PM (yQpMk)



Clinton and Carter had Southern accents as well.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (cAnNx)

246 Remember yesterday when I was a NeverTrump troll for pointing out the obvious that Flake was a no? Good times.

Who is next? I say Murkie by 4pm est today.

And I stand by my prediction that Kav withdraws by tomorrow EOB.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 17, 2018 01:58 PM (iD4Ml)

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (yQpMk)

247 .

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:49 PM (QDnY+)

And the Nomination session has been moved to Wednesday so there is that but, statement or not, they have put the fifth day of hearings for the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh on the schedule for Thursday and completely removed both the scheduled executive session and hearing for the 24th.

These assholes seem to think they are being clever by making sure Edsel testifies. All they are doing is looking foolish and weak.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (FTXAT)

248 I would not doubt she starts to cry and gets up and leaves and just leaves a non-questionable fallsified written statement on the desk and blames the mean male republicans
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (Ydx5u)


That is my guess, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:03 PM (YdaIJ)

249
He wants to be Samuel Johnson for the modern age

Who on Earth would want to be his Boswell?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 03:03 PM (LsBY9)

250 The drums have stopped!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (yQpMk)

-------------

Oh no, does that mean it's time for a bass solor?

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at September 23, 2018 03:03 PM (WEBkv)

251 I voted against gore, Kerry, Obama, and Clinton. I have never voted FOR a Republican President.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 03:03 PM (dNzKv)

252 solor?

Sigh.

Solo.

Posted by: blake - used comment salesman at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (WEBkv)

253 If she shows, I think that Ford will read a prepared statement and refuse to answer any questions.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (yQpMk)

254 I am eating a "donut peach". Weird fruit. They are donut-shaped, but don't have a hole in the center, but they do have a distinct depression in both upper and lower surfaces. No pit, either, just a cluster of seeds. A little green yet, but tasty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (iwUO9)

255 Committee calendar shows Thursday hearing. No statements from senators yet.


No statement on conditions agreed to. Last word from Ford camp was details remained to be worked out.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (QDnY+)

256 230 Maybe his putter is hot
And when I say putter, I mean....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (Ydx5u)

Isn't that when you're supposed to strike?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (y87Qq)

It's when you're supposed to make hay.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (NWiLs)

257 McCain never really had a chance in my opinion. His campaign was a lot like Bob Dole's: I'm old, I'm a veteran, it's my turn. None of that is enough. Even his own party was utterly unenthusiastic about the prospect of a McCain presidency.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balks at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (H5knJ)

258 Flake and Murkie will both be no.Kav will be pulled or withdraw, I was just early on the timing.

Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (GRHih)

259 Trump has an accent quite distinct from the way normal people speak English (ex: Texans and Oklahomans).

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (orocj)

260 Bill Kristol has proven to be a major tool lately, but I really don't have anything negative to say about Alan Keyes or Sarah Palin.

Keyes is a stalwart conservative, that's his only drawback as far as electability is concerned. He's a very in-your-face plain spoken person. No soft spine or bullshit ambiguity. It's all the more tragic since he's the guy who lost to Obama in the Illinois senate election.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (/qEW2)

261 Jeff Flake interviewing for an MSM job while still a Republican senator seems to approach conflict of interest.
I know it's not illegal but the media hates Republicans so it would seem to serve his interests to make it clear he's really not a conservative and a Republican in name only.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (nBr1j)

262 256 230 Maybe his putter is hot
And when I say putter, I mean....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:59 PM (Ydx5u)

Isn't that when you're supposed to strike?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:00 PM (y87Qq)

---------

I find that putter temperature is irrelevant.

Posted by: Michael Skakel at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (CPfoe)

263 253 If she shows, I think that Ford will read a prepared statement and refuse to answer any questions.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (yQpMk)



Sounds very possible.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (lwiT4)

264 Who on Earth would want to be his Boswell?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 03:03 PM (LsBY9)

Williams? Williamson? The rural America needs to die guy. With the shaved head and the beard, who was employed by somebody for about ninety seconds. Him.

Posted by: Vanya at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (7PLM4)

265 Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get.


You aren't messaging anything. Give everyone a break from your diarrhea, and mine. Take the bet, puss-puss.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (yQpMk)

266 250+ comments and not one of these?

🚢

It's like I don't even know you people anymore.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (DMUuz)

267 Probably already said, but wasn't he the guy on SNL back in the day? I don't remember him being funny then either.

Posted by: Infidel at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (PhT3S)

268 Nah, Ford, if she actually appears, will not hold up or change anything. Impossible to see how she would.


Kav is confirmed. 2 weeks from now nobody will remember most of this, except for GOP/independents/non-moonbat Dems in red states.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (QDnY+)

269 Who on Earth would want to be his Boswell?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 03:03 PM (LsBY9)

That's where the aliens crash landed in 1947.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (NWiLs)

270 Flake and Murkie will both be no.Kav will be pulled or withdraw, I was just early on the timing.



Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (GRHih)


Never right, always certain.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (FTXAT)

271 Bob Dole will never be president. Bob Dole's Viagra habit has caused Bob Dole to engage in some unfortunate acts that Bob Dole does not wish to become public.

Posted by: Bob Dole at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (orocj)

272 I'd rather go on the Southern Rock cruise with Dickey Betts and Lynrd Skyrd.





Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 02:08 PM (4o/yn)

Speaking of cruises, I got an e-mail from Ezra Levant about a cruise he is planning for next Spring on the Danube River, in aid of Tommy Robinson, who will be there. He says right up front it will be "expensive". But that would be a cool cruise, hang with Ezra and some Brit and Euro Deplorables.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (iwUO9)

273 I have voted for every President since Calvin Coolidge. That was my first election. I was in the room when President Coolidge said, "I have never been hurt by what I have not said."

Posted by: HeverRankles at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (AllCR)

274 I would establish a new cabinet position for Secretary of Girls With Glasses. And an executive Department of Girls With Glasses.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:58 PM (y87Qq)
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Is it inclusive enough for tinted neo-Victorian spectacle girls, are are you all about the black IBM frames?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (kQs4Y)

275 I will no believe the Edsel is going to show till it's over. I would not doubt she starts to cry and get's up and leaves and just leaves a non-questionable fallsified written statement on the desk and blames the mean male republicans

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM


The total intent of the left is to 'peel off' women voters. Get them to take the leftists side, because women.

I don't see it working. Nice try, strong effort. But I still think that 51% of the country can walk into a room and tell when something stinks.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (LOgQ4)

276 "Clinton and Carter had Southern accents as well.


Posted by: buzzion"


Bill had one he used when he thought appropriate. Hillary had a southern black accent programmed into her speech synthesizer but it badly malfunctioned, although she seemed blissfully unaware.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (MxEKc)

277 I voted for Reagan five times.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

278 These assholes seem to think they are being clever by making sure Edsel testifies. All they are doing is looking foolish and weak.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (FTXAT)


I'm not so sure. Their behavior also comports well with the sanguine scenario, that they KNOW she's full of shit, and can prove it unequivocally, and so are willing to bend over backwards to make sure she blows up publicly.

Suppose, for example, that she'd previously sent the same letter re Gorsuch (just an example), and Grassley has it. In his shoes, I'd want her to testify, too, and at the hearing I'd lock her in but good. I'd remind her she was testifying under oath, under penalty of perjury, and then ask her if she'd ever leveled any accusation of sexual impropriety against anyone else, at any time, whatsoever. Then I'd remind her AGAIN, that she was testifying under oath, under penalty of perjury, ask her if she understood that, and then ask for her response.

Good ahead, bitch, step on the rake. Deny it, and then I'll produce the letter. Game. Set. Match.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (YdaIJ)

279 G928

What bet? I really not sure what yiu're talking about. I told you before if you want to be go lay down some money on it. That is betting.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (GRHih)

280 Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (GRHih)

Because your messages are usually FUBAR, non truths or half truths, and the sky is always falling. For Starters

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (Ydx5u)

281 It's almost as if people are working by posting in comment sections and social media to manipulate the Predictit Markets. Those markets need to be regulated like the stock markets. This is a major scource of leaks and fake news.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (pcbAL)

282 Jeff Flake interviewing for an MSM job while still a Republican senator seems to approach conflict of interest.
I know it's not illegal but the media hates Republicans so it would seem to serve his interests to make it clear he's really not a conservative and a Republican in name only.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM


Teem, Canadians are not allowed to be so cynical.

These aren't our rules. Talk to Justin Bieber Trudeau.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (DMUuz)

283 Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (GRHih)



The messenger is the annoying part you pathetic chickenlittle "Trump has sold us out!" for the thousandth time one note johnny.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (cAnNx)

284 Obama the only Presidential candidate who had a book written about the campaign:


A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (mpXpK)

285 Bill Kristol cruises are clothing optional, fwiw.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (RUTiJ)

286 OK, has anyone seen the Is Putin Immortal? article from The Telegraph.co.uk?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybnkc4cp

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (mUa7G)

287 I really not sure what yiu're talking about.

You're just a liar without shame.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (yQpMk)

288 How many likely voters have awareness beyond an accusation being made?

Will they become aware of the 4 people, under oath, saying "nope, never happened"?

If that awareness is reached, how does that impact their voting behavior in November?

I will speculate that these questions are of great concern to people like Joe Manchin, because things like this impact turnout. I could be wrong, but I just don't believe they want to be seen siding with their party on this.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (2xR5z)

289 I voted for Reagan five times.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (yQpMk)


Heh. So did I.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (T71PA)

290 285 Bill Kristol cruises are clothing optional, fwiw.
Posted by: @PeeteySDee at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (RUTiJ)
There go breakfast and lunch.

Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at September 23, 2018 03:10 PM (nBr1j)

291 Flake and Murkie will both be no.Kav will be pulled or withdraw, I was just early on the timing.



Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (GRHih)

You are not a messenger... you are a propagandist who doesn't check his facts (and that is the kindest spin I can put on it). You are AoS own personal fake news.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:10 PM (FTXAT)

292 242 But not to people who can listen to NPR or BBC without laughing or instantly fisking their crap, in real time.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:45 PM (QDnY+)

For a while I carpooled with an earnest (read: retarded) liberal who used to put on NPR every goddamned time, although he knew I'm conservative. Typical ignorant liberal.

I thought about getting a Limbaugh podcast (I don't listen to him normally) just to turn the tables.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (YdaIJ)
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Have you noticed that people who listen to NPR let you know they listen to NPR? "So, I was listening to NPR this morning, and..."

It's like Crossfit.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:10 PM (kQs4Y)

293 Is it inclusive enough for tinted neo-Victorian spectacle girls, are are you all about the black IBM frames?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:07 PM (kQs4Y)


It will have a broad and comprehensive charter for extensive outreach to all the varied bespectacled hottie communities that make up this great nation.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (y87Qq)

294
Why you are shooting the messenger is the part I don't get



No sarcasm here. I think it's because you bring only one thing to the table. News or opinion that is unfailingly negative. You rarely engage others with friendly conversation. You never see anything positive. It's all gloom and doom. Plus, it seems to make you happy to spoil any party that you find yourself in the middle of. It's unpleasant. My two cents.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (lwiT4)

295 *At the beep, please leave a message*

Hello, Mr. Senator? I knew I should've taken that left turn at Albuquerque.....oh well, see ya" in another week!

Posted by: Christine Bugsy Ford at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (k5hWy)

296 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (/qEW2)

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Yeah, unless the Horde knows something I don't, I figure Keyes as a solid guy. Palin wasn't quite ready for the fray, but better than Johnny Mac by a G-d damn long shot, and who knows? She might've done fine as a candidate with a competent contender at the top of the ticket.

It would also be helpful if he didn't hate her and feel threatened by her.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (5aX2M)

297 I said there would be no Thursday vote. There was no vote.

I said the Monday hearing would be moved. It was moved.

And both times most here were super duper sure there was no way it would happen. Live in a fantasy world if you like, I live in the real world.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (GRHih)

298 Oh, while Cubs fans are here --

Brotherinlaw died suddenly and his immediate family all wore Cubs jerseys. He somehow wrangled an invitation to Santo's HOF induction, so Santo was featured. One of his sisters showed me her Cubs earrings she said she borrowed. Honestly don't know if they were fake or real sparklies (you have to understand the dedication over many years), but it was a light spot in a very dark sunny day.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (MIKMs)

299 Obama the only Presidential candidate who had a book written about the campaign:


A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 03:09 PM (mpXpK)

Not true... there was that fictionalized account of Gropey McClinton's run that they made a movie out of (I forget the name)

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (FTXAT)

300 Last man standing premieres this Friday on fox. I will have to remind myself to watch to support the show.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (DAdSz)

301 263
253 If she shows, I think that Ford will read a prepared statement and refuse to answer any questions.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:04 PM (yQpMk)







Sounds very possible.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:06 PM (lwiT4)

Technically if she reads a prepared statement she can not then take the 5th and must answer questions. Of course the same thing happened with LL but she had the protection of a corrupt AG who refused to prosecute the criminal contempt charges.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (mpXpK)

302 How many likely voters have awareness beyond an accusation being made?

All the more reason to have her testify, in public, if you can prove she's lying.

If that should happen, it will burn up the Internet, all the talk shows, etc. and natives in Borneo with bones through their noses will know all about it. She will be destroyed, the Democrats will be kicked in the nuts, and Kavanaugh will be vaccinated against any further crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (YdaIJ)

303 I'm not so sure. Their behavior also comports well with the sanguine scenario, that they KNOW she's full of shit, and can prove it unequivocally, and so are willing to bend over backwards to make sure she blows up publicly.

Suppose, for example, that she'd previously sent the same letter re Gorsuch (just an example), and Grassley has it. In his shoes, I'd want her to testify, too, and at the hearing I'd lock her in but good. I'd remind her she was testifying under oath, under penalty of perjury, and then ask her if she'd ever leveled any accusation of sexual impropriety against anyone else, at any time, whatsoever. Then I'd remind her AGAIN, that she was testifying under oath, under penalty of perjury, ask her if she understood that, and then ask for her response.

Good ahead, bitch, step on the rake. Deny it, and then I'll produce the letter. Game. Set. Match.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:08 PM (YdaIJ)

Halfway through the statement she starts juddering and shaking like Arnie with the fat woman's mask in Total Recall and then the head and face pops off and it's Hillary.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (4ErVI)

304 On Kristol Cruises the bathrooms are labeled '?'.

Posted by: Fort Trump! bitches at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (5BVHO)

305 But for those who haven't seen the offer, I will repeat it.

I will not comment for an entire calendar month if Kavanaugh is not confirmed, after making a concession post, if Skankie will do the same if he is confirmed. And to sweeten the pot, we will both stop commenting as soon as the bet is taken.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (yQpMk)

306
Not true... there was that fictionalized account of Gropey McClinton's run that they made a movie out of (I forget the name)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (FTXAT)

Primary Colors

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

307 And both times most here were super duper sure there was no way it would happen. Live in a fantasy world if you like, I live in the real world.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (GRHih)

You are a degenerate gambler, who obviously is an addict and has a problem Get some help.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at September 23, 2018 03:13 PM (pcbAL)

308 I have voted for every Republican running for President since Coolidge. I attended the funeral for Calvin Jr after his sad death from what appears to be staph. I held Grace Coolidges hand.

Posted by: HeverRankles at September 23, 2018 03:13 PM (AllCR)

309 Halfway through the statement she starts juddering and shaking like Arnie with the fat woman's mask in Total Recall and then the head and face pops off and it's Hillary.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM (4ErVI)

#twoweeks

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

310 Have you noticed that people who listen to NPR let you know they listen to NPR? "So, I was listening to NPR this morning, and..."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:10 PM


In the S.F. Bay Area, NPR is decaf compared to KPFA.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 03:13 PM (DMUuz)

311 Not true... there was that fictionalized account of Gropey McClinton's run that they made a movie out of (I forget the name)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (FTXAT)

--------------

That was also a movie. Primary Colors.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:14 PM (I16G8)

312 281 That's surely part of it, but I'm more frustrated by trolls and mobys being hired by leftist groups and the government (BIRM).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 03:14 PM (5aX2M)

313 I said there would be no Thursday vote. There was no vote.



I said the Monday hearing would be moved. It was moved.



And both times most here were super duper sure there was no way it
would happen. Live in a fantasy world if you like, I live in the real
world.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (GRHih)

You said that Kav would withdraw by Tuesday... ???
You said Merkie had tweeted her vote would be no (a flat out lie)
You said that Flake said he was a no vote several times last week... all of those times were either a serious mischaracterization of what Flake said or an outright lie.
You are #fakenews

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:14 PM (FTXAT)

314
Not true... there was that fictionalized account of Gropey McClinton's run that they made a movie out of (I forget the name)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (FTXAT)

Chappaquiddick.

Wait, that was the other guy.

Posted by: Vanya at September 23, 2018 03:14 PM (7PLM4)

315 I saw that Hildebeast is demanding that the FBI investigate Ford's allegations of sexual assault.

Apparently the HillOS release 4.5 update completely omitted the self-awareness module.

Posted by: Michael Skakel at September 23, 2018 03:14 PM (CPfoe)

316 Holy loly did I just see a snippy sock from the HQ chaplain?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (y87Qq)

317 On Kristol Cruises the bathrooms are labeled '?'.
Posted by: Fort Trump! bitches at September 23, 2018 03:12 PM


What's wrong with 'Pointers' and 'Setters'?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (DMUuz)

318

Obama was an empty suit kept inflated by the media. There was no way to attack him because he was entirely a media creation.

TFG could've been a footnote had McLame bothered to tell America the truth about his radical, far-left past and current close associations with American terrorists and communists in the New Party.

If John McCain's tumor had merely told the truth about SCOAMF's past and dared to highlight his role in the housing crash, he never would've even gotten the nomination.

McLame never wanted to win. He handed the election to that asshole on a silver platter through his weakness.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (HaL55)

319 Predictions...

1. She testifies and breaks down in tears very effectively
2. Polls show 55%+ believe her
3. Kav withdraws and/or is pulled within 48 hours of testimony.

We will wait until next weekend to see if I am right

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (GRHih)

320 Have you noticed that people who listen to NPR let you know they listen to NPR? "So, I was listening to NPR this morning, and..."

It's like Crossfit.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:10 PM (kQs4Y)


Liberals gotta liberal in public. How many times have you heard someone spout liberal shit in an apolitical, social context? How many times have you heard a conservative do that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (YdaIJ)

321 Off, murdering Kennedy sock

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (CPfoe)

322 Legal Insurrection has a update that the hearing will be at 10am Thursday and she will testify first like every trial.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (T4oHT)

323 I have voted for every Republican running for
President since Coolidge. I attended the funeral for Calvin Jr after his
sad death from what appears to be staph. I held Grace Coolidges hand.

Posted by: HeverRankles at September 23, 2018 03:13 PM (AllCR)

Coolidge is my favorite president of the 20th century.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (FTXAT)

324 And both times most here were super duper sure there was no way it would happen. Live in a fantasy world if you like, I live in the real world.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (GRHih)

Yeah no..that is as full of shit as most things you say and without any factual truth. Most of us here said we "wanted" the vote to take place Monday, not that it would and we all ( well except for shit throwers) understood why.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (Ydx5u)

325 do they say if she is going to testify under oath?

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (lwiT4)

Send her to Gitmo and waterboard her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (iwUO9)

326 Whatever, liar without shame.

Remember yesterday when I was a NeverTrump troll for pointing out the obvious that Flake was a no? Good times.

Who is next? I say Murkie by 4pm est today.

And I stand by my prediction that Kav withdraws by tomorrow EOB.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 17, 2018 01:58 PM (iD4Ml)


Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (yQpMk)

327 Not true... there was that fictionalized account of Gropey McClinton's run that they made a movie out of (I forget the name)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (FTXAT)


Primary Colors.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (YdaIJ)

328 But for those who haven't seen the offer, I will repeat it.



I will not comment for an entire calendar month if Kavanaugh is not
confirmed, after making a concession post, if Skankie will do the same
if he is confirmed. And to sweeten the pot, we will both stop
commenting as soon as the bet is taken.


I'm disappointed that there's no pantsing, followed by pointing and laughing.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (T6t7i)

329 Predictions...



1. She testifies and breaks down in tears very effectively

2. Polls show 55%+ believe her

3. Kav withdraws and/or is pulled within 48 hours of testimony.



We will wait until next weekend to see if I am right



Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (GRHih)

#fakenews

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (FTXAT)

330 In that pic of Cap'n Cuck at AG, it looks like they shot it at the exact moment a dried corncob slid in an extra couple of inches deeper.

At ZH, they have a short piece up about a 10k word article at the Slimes about Trump-Russia collusion.

In para 5, they describe a 'mountain of evidence'.

In para 178!, they finally get around to admitting that

"He is right that no public evidence has emerged showing that his campaign conspired with Russia in the election interference or accepted Russian money."

https://tinyurl.com/y8v6oeae

A mountain of no evidence. Worth a quick read.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (Z4rgH)

331 Holy loly did I just see a snippy sock from the HQ chaplain?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (y87Qq)

It was the iPad watching the packers game, it is cranky cuz Rogers just got sacked

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (DAdSz)

332 1. She testifies and breaks down in tears very effectively
2. Polls show 55%+ believe her
3. Kav withdraws and/or is pulled within 48 hours of testimony.




Take the bet, shitweasel.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (yQpMk)

333 Agreeing with the general flavor of comments that the witness for the prosecution can be impeached on the stand ---hopefully. In glorious fashion ---but do not understand why you would not SUBPOENA such a rich target?

She accused Kavanaugh of a felony...so she is an essential---and again hopefully a pathetic--witness.

Compel the bitch......

Posted by: Fort Trump! bitches at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (5BVHO)

334 Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (MIKMs)



I'm sorry for your loss. We did the Cubs thing too when my father died last month. Back in the 90's he got to throw out the first pitch at Wrigley. We buried him with his season tickets and we all came in Cubs gear.

That's very cool about Santo.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (lwiT4)

335 Liberals gotta liberal in public. How many times have you heard someone spout liberal shit in an apolitical, social context? How many times have you heard a conservative do that?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (YdaIJ)
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You can always tell who is moderate/conservative by their stony-faced silence when the lefties bend a friendly non-political conversation over to Trump, global warming, or fracking.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (kQs4Y)

336 G928

How about this..

Kav is confirmed you never see me again

Kav is pulled, withdraws or get voted down, I never see you again.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (Ksboy)

337 Liberals gotta liberal in public. How many times have you heard someone spout liberal shit in an apolitical, social context? How many times have you heard a conservative do that?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (YdaIJ)


Are there any conservatives who swore to hold their breath and stamp their feet and move to Canada and relinquish their US citizenship if they didn't get their way? None come to mind. There must be some though, right?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (y87Qq)

338 324 And both times most here were super duper sure there was no way it would happen. Live in a fantasy world if you like, I live in the real world.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (GRHih)

Yeah no..that is as full of shit as most things you say and without any factual truth. Most of us here said we "wanted" the vote to take place Monday, not that it would and we all ( well except for shit throwers) understood why.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (Ydx5u)



Pathetic turds always have a massive martyr complex. They need to believe that they are the lone voice shouting against the wind. To admit that they are not would crush their life and make them realize there is no reason for their existence.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (cAnNx)

339 Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (y87Qq)

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I believe you did. Heh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (5aX2M)

340 Holy loly did I just see a snippy sock from the HQ chaplain?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM


Sorry [redacted], the HashSock module went down.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (DMUuz)

341 2. Polls show 55%+ believe her

How do you *belive* a story that has no details and no witnesses?

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (DAdSz)

342 I don't think giving her the opportunity to testify is a loss of a compromise. It will give the country, those interested, an occasion to focus on the allegations. And the more tearful and put-upon she is, the better. Even if you take her allegations as 100 percent true, it's remarkably weird and fragile to be busted up over it 36 years later. There are actual rape victims who are less traumatized after that many years.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balks at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (H5knJ)

343 Kav is confirmed you never see me again

Kav is pulled, withdraws or get voted down, I never see you again.



No, a month is sufficient. I have friends here.

Besides which, you're a liar anyway.

Take the bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (yQpMk)

344
do they say if she is going to testify under oath?



Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 02:38 PM (lwiT4)

Send her to Gitmo and waterboard her.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:16 PM (iwUO9)

Not under oath wasn't even one of the points her lawyer was negotiating cause it would have per-emptively made her look like a liar (as every other fact does). Every other witness and all of the people who submitted letters did so under oath.

I hope the take her out of there is chains.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:19 PM (FTXAT)

345 It comes from Pakistan.



...And I'm not convinced it tastes different than any other salt you
need to grind. But I'm a fan of grinding salt, the big chunks do an
excellent job when preparing a steak for the grill.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:41 PM (GBteo)

Why buy muslim salt? North America produces a metric fuckton. Even pink salt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:19 PM (iwUO9)

346 She testifies and breaks down in tears very effectively

It's bullshit that women can get away with murder simply by crying whenever they're frustrated, angry, upset, sad, etc. If you can't control your emotions any better than that, you shouldn't be voting, holding office, or doing anything that requires emotional stability.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:19 PM (YdaIJ)

347 McLame never wanted to win. He handed the election to that asshole on a silver platter through his weakness.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy (A Deplorable Dixie Dreg of Society) at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM (HaL55)

-----------

The entire GOPe was content being the minority. Look at the candidates:

2008-War was the issue, McCain the Warhawk
2012-CommieCare was the issue, Mr. Romneycare
2016-Illegals were the issue, "Act of Love" Yeb! was the attempt

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:19 PM (I16G8)

348 If that should happen, it will burn up the Internet, all the talk shows, etc. and natives in Borneo with bones through their noses will know all about it. She will be destroyed, the Democrats will be kicked in the nuts, and Kavanaugh will be vaccinated against any further crap.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

I sure hope it happens that way. But only one commenter knows the future with absolute certainty. The rest of us will have to wait it out, I guess.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2018 03:20 PM (2xR5z)

349 And both times most here were super duper sure there
was no way it would happen. Live in a fantasy world if you like, I live
in the real world.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:11 PM (GRHih)


If we all get together and admit that you are 100% right and are morally superior due to your keen insight into current events, would you stop posting the same damned thing over and over again?


Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 03:20 PM (mUa7G)

350 Of course the same thing happened with LL but she had the protection of a corrupt AG who refused to prosecute the criminal contempt charges.

Hmm, reminds me of the current AG.

Posted by: Infidel at September 23, 2018 03:20 PM (PhT3S)

351
No, a month is sufficient. I have friends here.

Besides which, you're a liar anyway.

Take the bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (yQpMk)



He already said he was leaving yesterday and couldn't even make it 8 hours before he reneged on that.

Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 03:20 PM (cAnNx)

352 Polls show 55%+ believe her



How do you *belive* a story that has no details and no witnesses?

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (DAdSz)

Polls do not she 55% believe her. That is supposedly the number that think she should testify.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:20 PM (FTXAT)

353 Casual observation: It seems the trend of women over 40 up-talking seems to be increasing.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (r9UYA)

354 Ok a month. Whatever. Kav is toast so I'll bet a month a day, a year, doesn't matter.

Month starts starts either when he is voted down, voted in or the nomination is withdrawn by either Trump or himself.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (m4yCA)

355 read the story carefully, and pay attention to how they word what they say:

We committed to moving forward with an open hearing onThursday Sept 27 at 10:00 am.

(nothing definitive about who is participating)

A number of important procedural and logistical issues remain unresolved, although they will not impede the hearing taking place

(again)

Among those issues is who on the Majority side will be asking the questions, whether senators or staff attorneys

(what are they afraid of?)

We were told no decision has been made on this important issue, even
though various senators have been dismissive of her account and should
have to shoulder their responsibility to ask her questions. Nor were we
told when we would have that answer or answers to the other unresolved
issues. We look forward to hearing back from the Majority staff as soon
as possible on these important matters.

(IOW, we can still back out and blame the Committee)

this is all a stall.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (rjbMC)

356 Kav is confirmed you never see me again

Kav is pulled, withdraws or get voted down, I never see you again.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:17 PM (Ksboy)

First of all dickweed...as usual...you take out of context everything everyone says here or are incapable of understanding it

No one here assured anyone he will get confirmed. What we have said is that as of yet NO Republican has come out against him, contrary to many of your fucked up statements to the contrary.

Take a hike jack ass

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (Ydx5u)

357 The entire GOPe was content being the minority. Look at the candidates:

2008-War was the issue, McCain the Warhawk
2012-CommieCare was the issue, Mr. Romneycare
2016-Illegals were the issue, "Act of Love" Yeb! was the attempt
Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:19 PM (I16G

If Yeb! Didn't work out, I was going to be the plan B.

Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (Ldr3U)

358 He already said he was leaving yesterday and couldn't even make it 8 hours before he reneged on that.


Yeah, the difference is that were I to take the lifetime banishment bet, and lose, I would be gone. The ball-less liar would just change his nic and be back the next day. A month is sufficient.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:22 PM (yQpMk)

359 I would have voted for William McKinley, except that I hadn't been born yet. I think they should establish voting for babies still in the womb who plan to grow up to vote for Republicans.

Posted by: HeverRankles at September 23, 2018 03:22 PM (AllCR)

360 I'll be shocked if she testifies Thursday. Her lawyers are saying that. The committee hasn't agreed on terms yet

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 03:22 PM (w5kO1)

361 If Yeb! Didn't work out, I was going to be the plan B.
Posted by: Marco Rubio at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (Ldr3U)

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Make sure Chuck Schumer says it's okay first, Dondi.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (CPfoe)

362 Month starts starts either when he is voted down, voted in or the nomination is withdrawn by either Trump or himself.

Okay, but our silence start now, yes?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (yQpMk)

363
So you guys think Kav has all the R's votes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (4o/yn)

364 There are actual rape victims who are less traumatized after that many years.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balks at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (H5knJ)


Yes. This is very true.

Her extreme fragility tells me the whole thing is made up and she is putting on an act.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (4HMW8)

365 "Have you noticed that people who listen to NPR let you know they
listen to NPR? "So, I was listening to NPR this morning, and..."



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes"

Speaking of idiotic liberal virtue signaling, some drooling idiot on our neighborhood news site just had to post "Anybody know where I can get a Stacy Abram yard sign" (The great progressive hope in Georgia) Of course the drooling idiot knows where to get a yard sign, from any one of her many campaign offices But not enough for him to put it in his yard to let you everybody know he is drooling idiot. He has to announce it on the neighborhood news through some phony question.

Probably will put it next to his Hate Has No Home Here yard sign.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (MxEKc)

366 Ugh...I said 55% will be the number of people who believe her after the hearing. Come on guys it's not that hard.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (Imbwc)

367 Predictions...



1. She testifies and breaks down in tears very effectively

2. Polls show 55%+ believe her

3. Kav withdraws and/or is pulled within 48 hours of testimony.



We will wait until next weekend to see if I am right






Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:15 PM

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Give me $50 of that action. Kavanaugh is not going to withdraw or be pulled by Trump.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (JUOKG)

368 Bay area station KPFA is actually playing some beautiful gospel by Kitka.

Now it's African singing, good stuff.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (kQs4Y)

369 Coolidge is my favorite president of the 20th century.
=====

The portrait of his wife in the red dress with their white dog has to be one of the best WH portraits ever.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (MIKMs)

370 I sure hope it happens that way. But only one commenter knows the future with absolute certainty. The rest of us will have to wait it out, I guess.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2018 03:20 PM (2xR5z)


Me too. No idea if there's anything to it, and indeed there probably isn't.

But Grassley's behavior to date is consistent with that happy albeit improbably scenario, among others.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (YdaIJ)

371 Probably will put it next to his Hate Has No Home Here yard sign.
Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (MxEKc)

Hate has no home here, but I let it crash on the couch sometimes.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (NWiLs)

372 Casual observation: It seems the trend of women over 40 up-talking seems to be increasing.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (r9UYA)

It wouldn't be quite so annoying? If men? Weren't doing the same thing?

You know?

Posted by: Vanya at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (7PLM4)

373 Jeez, oh no....I'm the cook not that other thing.....Get the hell outta my kitchen....and for Christ's sake put some clothes on!

Fml

Posted by: Master Chef Casey Ryback of the S.S. William Kristol at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (k5hWy)

374 So you guys think Kav has all the R's votes?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (4o/yn)

What I said is No One has come out against him.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (Ydx5u)

375

I know the future.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (4o/yn)

376 That's weird, my hash changed.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (Ldr3U)

377 Polls do not she 55% believe her. That is supposedly the number that think she should testify.
Posted by: redbanzai

Thank you!
I mean I called BS the minute this started, why this woman is getting this much time is a complete travesty and Americans should be angry!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (DAdSz)

378 >>> Holy loly did I just see a snippy sock from the HQ chaplain?

Thank you for pointing that out. I believe we are witnessing a special moment.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2018 03:25 PM (b+SbO)

379 Shame this hearing isn't going to have a real prosecutor.

Prosecutor - I want the truth!
Dr Ford- You can't handle the Truth!
Prosecutor - Did you fabricate this rape story?
Dr Ford - Damn right I did, Abortion must be allowed to continue to be legal in this country! Kavanaugh will be the end of abortion and will lead to millions of deaths by illegal abortions

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 03:25 PM (T4oHT)

380 The bet includes going dark as soon as the bet is made. Let's do this. Take the bet, spunkbreath.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:25 PM (yQpMk)

381 So far all 4 people mentioned as "witnesses" by the Edsel have denied any knowledge of the so called incident. It's not Kavanaugh that is on the run.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:25 PM (Ydx5u)

382 2016-Illegals were the issue, "Act of Love" Yeb! was the attempt
Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:19 PM (I16G


Hah! I'd forgotten about Jeblets, the candidate so useless even his mother couldn't be bothered to wish him good luck. He's what happens when the next name on the "it's x's turn" list doesn't even want the race or the office, just a nice shady pot and some occasional watering.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (y87Qq)

383 That's weird, my hash changed.

Nonsense.

Posted by: Agent Smith at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (kSECq)

384 376 That's weird, my hash changed.
Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (Ldr3U)

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Soon your voice will deepen and hair will appear on new parts of your body.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (CPfoe)

385 364 There are actual rape victims who are less traumatized after that many years.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balks at September 23, 2018 03:18 PM (H5knJ)

Yes. This is very true.

Her extreme fragility tells me the whole thing is made up and she is putting on an act.
Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (4HMW


The thing that jumped out at me? Her claim that she thought that by putting his hand over her mouth he might suffocate her in the course of the festivities. Pure drama queen, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (YdaIJ)

386 >>> Come on guys it's not that hard.

Phrasing.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (b+SbO)

387 Many here confuse what should be happening with what is happening.

This story should be ignored since it is BS. And most people should not believe her but they do.

Kav should be confirmed but won't be.

Republicans should not be pussies, but they are.

And so forth

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:27 PM (h3m6j)

388 386 >>> Come on guys it's not that hard.

Phrasing.
Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (b+SbO)

---------

Bob Dole says
NO REFUNDS!!!

Posted by: Bob Dole at September 23, 2018 03:27 PM (CPfoe)

389 >>>He has cleverly carved out a niche for himself as the Left's go-to guy for a nasty comment or tweet about the president.

I assume this must really be the ultimate explanation. Although I'd really like to see him interrogated at Guantanamo about why he's become such a staunch turncoat.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 03:27 PM (/qEW2)

390 372 Casual observation: It seems the trend of women over 40 up-talking seems to be increasing.
Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 03:21 PM (r9UYA)

It wouldn't be quite so annoying? If men? Weren't doing the same thing?

You know?
Posted by: Vanya at September 23, 2018 03:24 PM (7PLM4)

I popped my monocle and shook my cane at a 20-something man whose every sentence was peppered with "like". He laughed and said that's how my generation talks! Very intelligent guy too.

Once you start noticing the "likes" it will drive you quietly mad.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (kQs4Y)

391 Take the bet, Spunkmeyer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (yQpMk)

392 The thing that jumped out at me? Her claim that she thought that by putting his hand over her mouth he might suffocate her in the course of the festivities. Pure drama queen, IMO.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:26 PM (YdaIJ)

And from what is being reported, it is not as if she was unfamiliar with something being stuffed in her mouth...Just saying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (Ydx5u)

393 387 Many here confuse what should be happening with what is happening.

This story should be ignored since it is BS. And most people should not believe her but they do.

Kav should be confirmed but won't be.

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Go away.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (CPfoe)

394 So you guys think Kav has all the R's votes?





Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (4o/yn)

Without a doubt... Collins, Murkie, Flake and the perfidious asshole from Tennessee would have already announced no votes if they were going to vote no. With every other person who this woman says was at the gathering saying it never took place (and one saying she never met Kav in person in her life), they have no cover to vote no and they would need cover. No matter how Cuckie they are, they would never find a home or a living with Dems so they have to maintain some R cred.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (FTXAT)

395 Take the bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

396 Many here confuse what should be happening with what is happening.



This story should be ignored since it is BS. And most people should not believe her but they do.



Kav should be confirmed but won't be.



Republicans should not be pussies, but they are.



And so forth





Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:27 PM (h3m6j)

#fakenews

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:29 PM (FTXAT)

397 Ok I will leave. Used to be a time when Ace was a place to exchange ideas. Now it is nothing but a delusional echo chamber where the gop can do no wrong.

Have at it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 22, 2018 07:11 PM (pUZdr)

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:29 PM (yQpMk)

398
I assume this must really be the ultimate explanation. Although I'd really like to see him interrogated
=====
Get woke, go broke.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (MIKMs)

399 Republicans should not be pussies, but they are.

And so forth

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:27 PM (h3m6j)

So your the only true Republican? Upholding the whole party are ya?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (Ydx5u)

400
So how do you reckon this will play out?

Thursday: Frenzied Circus
Friday: ??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (4o/yn)

401 You guys should be helping me.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (yQpMk)

402 Speaking of idiotic liberal virtue signaling, some drooling idiot on our neighborhood news site just had to post "Anybody know where I can get a Stacy Abram yard sign" (The great progressive hope in Georgia) Of course the drooling idiot knows where to get a yard sign, from any one of her many campaign offices But not enough for him to put it in his yard to let you everybody know he is drooling idiot. He has to announce it on the neighborhood news through some phony question.

Probably will put it next to his Hate Has No Home Here yard sign.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (MxEKc)

Here's what you should do:

Make your own Stacey Abrams yard sign cheaply at a sign makers shop.

Sell it to your Leftist neighbor for slightly less than the campaign is selling them.

Donate the profit made from the sale to Kemp's Campaign.

Repeat as needed.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (Ldr3U)

403 >>>Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balks at September 23, 2018 02:22 PM (H5knJ)

Hint, to my fellow ursine: check your nick, unless you are an MLB pitcher.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (/qEW2)

404 Skankie deserves no response from anyone other than Take The Bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (yQpMk)

405 You guys should be helping me.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (yQpMk)

Helping with what?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (Ydx5u)

406 Probably will put it next to his Hate Has No Home Here yard sign.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:23 PM (MxEKc)


Print up a codicil to it that, in Arabic, says "Mohammed was a faggot," and append that to his sign. Await developments.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (YdaIJ)

407 I wonder what they have on Grassley? Inappropriate relations with an ear of corn?

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (r9UYA)

408 'Take The Bet, Pussy' is also allowed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (yQpMk)

409 Ace's thread of last night seems to make Flake ready to become a Leftist hero and MSNBC's newest analysis

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (T4oHT)

410 'Okay, but our silence start now, yes?'

I don't think that's necessary. We want you around in the meantime Mr 928. Just the month will do.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (UdKB7)

411 I popped my monocle and shook my cane at a 20-something man whose every sentence was peppered with "like". He laughed and said that's how my generation talks! Very intelligent guy too.

Once you start noticing the "likes" it will drive you quietly mad.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (kQs4Y)

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It took me several months to get my now 22 year old daughter , then 17, to stop doing that. She admitted after she stopped and began listening to others how stupid it made people sound.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (I16G8)

412 Grump, I like you. The guy is a ratfink manipulative douche waffle who love attention.
Kinda like *dr ford*
You have proved that the guy is a twat, so you win

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (DAdSz)

413 You guys sound like the doom and gloom types at ZeroHedge but in reverse. They always predict a market crash to which I ax...why aren't you shorting the market, you will make a killing.

Right now the market is saying Kav is doa. You guys can all make a killing betting for him.

Come on, put that money where your mouths are. Instead grumpy is mumbling about some message board bet lol.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (h3m6j)

414 From Insty:

The mask slips: “In a shocking interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) claimed that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh had ‘broad credibility issues’ and implied that Kavanaugh should not be afforded a presumption of innocence because he is a conservative judge.”

Oh. OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:33 PM (YdaIJ)

415 Remember the rules of trolls:

Joe's Law: Trolls believe none of the things they post.

Joe's Corollary: Your disgust is their oxygen.

Joe's Conjecture: All trolls are Average Joe.

Joe's Tautology: Average Joe sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:33 PM (yQpMk)

416 Heh. Misspellings. So pervasive that I routinely botch even my own nickname. It would be depressing, but then I remember that I seldom say anything insightful, so the typos can't possibly detract from my credibility.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 23, 2018 03:33 PM (H5knJ)

417 'Take The Bet, Pussy' is also allowed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:31 PM (yQpMk)

LOL... how about #fakenews #takethebetpussy

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 03:33 PM (FTXAT)

418 'Take The Bet, Pussy'

That got cut from a casino scene in Goldfinger.

Posted by: movie history at September 23, 2018 03:33 PM (kSECq)

419 If Skankie shows up on the food thread I shall request The Dildo to hammer him.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2018 03:33 PM (b+SbO)

420 I don't think that's necessary. We want you around in the meantime Mr 928. Just the month will do.


No, it's integral to the bet. It's my immediate contribution to the horde.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:34 PM (yQpMk)

421 Joe needs a theorem too.

Posted by: Fermat at September 23, 2018 03:34 PM (H5knJ)

422 Got to love a putz who wants to bet on an annonymous Blog with no betting mechanism. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:34 PM (Ydx5u)

423 I guess I am going to have to check nics prior to reading the comments again.

It got to where I had to do that when it was Ch*mJeff

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (mUa7G)

424 Take the bet, pussy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (yQpMk)

425 "Here's what you should do:



Make your own Stacey Abrams yard sign cheaply at a sign makers shop.



Sell it to your Leftist neighbor for slightly less than the campaign is selling them.



Donate the profit made from the sale to Kemp's Campaign.



Repeat as needed.

Posted by: Surfperch "

Better idea: Get a Brian Kemp yard sign and paint Stacy Abram over it. With water colors.



Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (MxEKc)

426 speaking of putting up money, we can all chip in and buy #neversane a loverly parting gift...

https://mydv.store/collections/prank-gifts

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (rjbMC)

427 Holy loly did I just see a snippy sock from the HQ chaplain?

Are you doubting my veracity as a thorough going Republican voter who voted for every Republican President for the past 100 years?. That is the only reason I never have anything thing positive to say and have been posting on Kavanaugh for the past four days non stop, because I'm THE conservative of conservatives, and my predictions are so good. In fact they're so good I bet on them. I do this posting not for an filthy lucre but in a disinterested spirit of concern for Kavanaugh and for all conservative voters here. I am the only one who can save you from disappointment by my truthy-truth.

But now I have to take a nap. It's no fun being over 110.

Posted by: HeverRankles at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (AllCR)

428 Shocking a degenerate gambler who is an addict won't take a bet unless money or drugs are on the line. Imagine my shock.

Posted by: not a doomer nor a boomer at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (pcbAL)

429

I don't even know what's going to happen.

I'd like to think her testimony, if she gives one, will have no impact. But that would be foolish of me.
Fake News will make something of it. And that might or might not have an impact.

Republicans are very easy to spook.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (4o/yn)

430 >>> Take The Bet, Pussy'
That got cut from a casino scene in Goldfinger.

And The Sopranos.

Posted by: fluffy at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (b+SbO)

431 Come on, put that money where your mouths are. Instead grumpy is mumbling about some message board bet lol.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (h3m6j)

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Hey, it cuts both ways... if you're so confident, then take the bet, pussy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (5aX2M)

432 419 I second that fluffy!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (DAdSz)

433 I BET some of his best friends are Republicans?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (Ydx5u)

434 422

There are many places online to bet on this and other political outcomes.

If you're so sure it's easy money. Take the bet!!

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (h3m6j)

435 Sarah Alin was far from intelligent or well spoken
Everything coming out of her mouth was word salad
And to have her family a heart beat away from the White House ???????

Posted by: Comrade at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (NXQ8M)

436 Come on, put that money where your mouths are. Instead grumpy is mumbling about some message board bet lol.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (h3m6j)

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A bet which you don't have the balls to make.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (I16G8)

437 Shut up, Dunce.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:37 PM (yQpMk)

438 But now I have to take a nap. It's no fun being over 110.

Posted by: HeverRankles at September 23, 2018 03:35 PM (AllCR)


Hey! You are Leslie Brown!

(Or Vladimir Putin.)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 03:37 PM (mUa7G)

439
Posted by: Comrade

You know the drill, Dunce.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:37 PM (4o/yn)

440 Fine I will take g928's bet. So when Kav is ousted he will be gone for a month. Why not?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:37 PM (h3m6j)

441 If you're so sure it's easy money. Take the bet!!


I don't need money, or rather, some things are worth more than money.

Take the bet, jizz guzzler.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:37 PM (yQpMk)

442 There are many places online to bet on this and other political outcomes.

If you're so sure it's easy money. Take the bet!!
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (h3m6j)

OK I just bet $10,000 he get's confirmed.

LMAO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:38 PM (Ydx5u)

443 Fine I will take g928's bet. So when Kav is ousted he will be gone for a month. Why not?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:37 PM (h3m6j)



and our silence start now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:38 PM (yQpMk)

444 Trolls are collecting in the pipe.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 23, 2018 03:38 PM (CPfoe)

445 In a way I wish I could live in a delusional bubble like many here.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:38 PM (h3m6j)

446 I don't know why I keep leaving the ess off of starts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:38 PM (yQpMk)

447

And this is how the civil war will be fought.

Yeah, we're doomed.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:39 PM (4o/yn)

448 Take.the.bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:39 PM (yQpMk)

449 *adds a couple of nics to "ignore" list*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bro Hug Guy at September 23, 2018 03:39 PM (An2kO)

450 Once you start noticing the "likes" it will drive you quietly mad.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (kQs4Y)

Well, you know, people who say "like", you know, have a, you know, kind of verbal tic, you know?

Posted by: Hillary, with a "give" at September 23, 2018 03:40 PM (zCyNd)

451 Ford never sent the letter to DiFi. She sent it some dem rep. to avoid US 18. whatever. Perjury/


Story on Twitchy.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 03:40 PM (r9UYA)

452 not grump. Someone else.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bro Hug Guy at September 23, 2018 03:40 PM (An2kO)

453 In a way I wish I could live in a delusional bubble like many here.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:38 PM (h3m6j)

Don't like it? Get the fuck out...easy

And the only delusional person here is you. No One other than you is making any claims here. We are waiting to see how this plays out. And when we quote "facts" they are the best available facts at that moment. Not half truths, out of context quotes, or outright falsehoods.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:41 PM (Ydx5u)

454 Call Dildo-Rooter, that's the name
And flush those troll-bots down the drain

Dildo- Ro-o-o-o-oter!

CBD, how about we start the next thread a little early?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:41 PM (kQs4Y)

455 not grump. Someone else.


With a little push you will be free of both of us for at least a week, and then a month for one or the other.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:41 PM (yQpMk)

456 Thanks Grump, it'll be good to stop hearing that for a bit. It was getting old. With all good luck, hopefully he'll be quiet for a solid month and a day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 03:41 PM (5aX2M)

457 Well stated, NGU

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bro Hug Guy at September 23, 2018 03:42 PM (An2kO)

458 And this is how the civil war will be fought.
Yeah, we're doomed.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:39 PM


Yeah, having 95% of the guns, 99% of the ammo. Smells like defeat.

Who wouldn't surrender holding that minor advantage?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 03:42 PM (LOgQ4)

459 With all good luck, hopefully he'll be quiet for a solid month and a day.


He hasn't taken the bet yet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:42 PM (yQpMk)

460

Easy money boys and girls. Bet on kav and the red wave. You can't lose lol.

Predictit.org

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:42 PM (k14RJ)

461
The thing that jumped out at me? Her claim that she thought that by
putting his hand over her mouth he might suffocate her in the course of
the festivities. Pure drama queen, IMO.


Ah, but its details like that that really resonate with the '50 Shades of Gray' crowd.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 03:42 PM (oVJmc)

462 Please friends, no responses to the pud puller until he takes the bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:43 PM (yQpMk)

463 Thursday: Frenzied Circus
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM (4o/yn)


I kinda like that one. The rest of the album wasn't exactly Mezzanine stuff, but golly, that one track sure was swell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEgX64n3T7g

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:44 PM (y87Qq)

464 And from what is being reported, it is not as if she was unfamiliar with something being stuffed in her mouth...Just saying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (Ydx5u)

She's probably had a lot of practice breathing through her ears.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:44 PM (iwUO9)

465 Will she testify by 9-28 is selling no for 18 cents. Since you are sure she will not testify that's a 500% return on your money.

Cone on guys, money where your mouths are.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:45 PM (k14RJ)

466 411 I popped my monocle and shook my cane at a 20-something man whose every sentence was peppered with "like". He laughed and said that's how my generation talks! Very intelligent guy too.

Once you start noticing the "likes" it will drive you quietly mad.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 03:28 PM (kQs4Y)

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It took me several months to get my now 22 year old daughter , then 17, to stop doing that. She admitted after she stopped and began listening to others how stupid it made people sound.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:32 PM (I16G


Same conversation I had with my mother 4+ decades ago.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 23, 2018 03:45 PM (di1hb)

467 Amazing how the Dems are now, all of a sudden, the party of sexual morality...

Posted by: navybrat, stays off BART trains at September 23, 2018 03:45 PM (w7KSn)

468 what a tiresome putz

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (Ydx5u)

469 Weak troll is weak. Take the bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (yQpMk)

470 Way back after Al Gore lost the election, I trolled the DNC blog for a few months. Then they ditched the blog and the party was over.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (lwiT4)

471 You guys should be helping me.



Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:30 PM

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Sorry I was gone all weekend and at EMCON Condition 1.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (JUOKG)

472 Her claim that she thought that by
putting his hand over her mouth he might suffocate her in the course of the festivities.

Why? Did she have nose plugs in?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (AllCR)

473 Leaving a 500% ROI in a week on the table?
Sad.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (k14RJ)

474 The votes are there.

Look at Hatch's tweets, he's solidly with kav and he knows it the votes are there or not.

No waffling at all.

Same with WH statements.

Kav is in.

Posted by: Ha at September 23, 2018 03:47 PM (MAstk)

475 "The thing that jumped out at me? Her claim that she thought that by
putting his hand over her mouth he might suffocate her in the course of
the festivities. Pure drama queen, IMO.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara"
You can easily suffocate somebody with your hands in less than a minute without too much effort. I have seen this many time on TV. She was in serious danger.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:47 PM (MxEKc)

476 And the only delusional person here is you. No One other than you is making any claims here. We are waiting to see how this plays out. And when we quote "facts" they are the best available facts at that moment. Not half truths, out of context quotes, or outright falsehoods.

Wasn't Kankle's Forever caught citing statements that were flat-out not made the other day? Saying that some senator had tweeted something when they hadn't?

It's that kind of stunt that pushes someone from "contrarian" to "troll".

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 23, 2018 03:47 PM (naEeR)

477 You've got a bet right here, high-roller. Take it or STFU.

Posted by: take the bet at September 23, 2018 03:47 PM (kSECq)

478 Here's an idea:

How about let's not allow actual or potential political disappointments to steal our comity here?

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:47 PM (4HMW8)

479 Ford never sent the letter to DiFi. She sent it some dem rep. to avoid US 18. whatever. Perjury/

Sure, and DiFi passed in on to the FBI, so they could spend weeks on an investigation of zero facts, yet Ford would not be guilty of making a false report to law enforcement because she never spoke to law enforcement.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 03:48 PM (oVJmc)

480
Imagine the optics with me.

Shouts of "rapist!" and "I believe her!" while Kavanaugh tries to speak.

This is part of the reason they don't want the accuser in the room at the same time. It's gonna be very ugly. So they'll keep her separated from the ugliness.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:48 PM (4o/yn)

481 Will she testify by 9-28 is selling no for 18 cents. Since you are sure she will not testify that's a 500% return on your money.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 03:45 PM (k14RJ)


Ice cream sandwiches are selling for $2.98 per six at Quality Dairy. By my math, that's $0.53 after tax per ice cream sandwich.

Checkmate.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:48 PM (y87Qq)

482 Take..the..bet



Curse you, pixy and your no repeating comments rule.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:50 PM (yQpMk)

483 Committee has reiterated its conditions (detailed in letter of several days ago) for Thursday. Normal hearing, to anyone who's been to/been involved with hundreds of them. No quirks that are material.


And - still hard to believe they'll let her do this. She's obviously not credible, her "story" is literally her own, alone, with no back-up in any form.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:50 PM (QDnY+)

484 Oooo now I want ice cream.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:50 PM (lwiT4)

485 How about let's not allow actual or potential political disappointments to steal our comity here?

What comity? I see a guy whose primary activity here is trying to sell defeat. No matter what the question, he's pushing surrender because all is already lost.

That's not a disagreement, that's poison.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 23, 2018 03:50 PM (naEeR)

486 Does Skankles have part ownership in the betting place because he sure pushes it a lot.?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:50 PM (AllCR)

487 As much as I appreciate Grump's bet, I think we all know it's unnecessary. Kankles is going to get the banhammer. It's just a matter of time. Like BSG, he's here solely to antagonize others at this point. Once a commenter has gone there, he's not long for this blog.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 23, 2018 03:51 PM (H5knJ)

488 Oooo now I want ice cream.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:50 PM (lwiT4)


grammie knows what's up.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 03:51 PM (y87Qq)

489 Why can't they just close the hearings so that the nutcases don't show up?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (AllCR)

490 Kankles is going to get the banhammer.


I actually think she's been banned before, but you know how it is with the proprietor. Change your hash and don't get in his face and he forgets who you are.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (yQpMk)

491
I would never agree to:
1. Kav speaks first
2. Kav and the accuser not appearing at same time
3. Limiting who aks the questions

And I would not allow any spectators in the gallery.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (4o/yn)

492 And the panic continues. Schumer/ChiFi trying to revive the "but the FBI must investigate!!" nonsense.


They have reason to panic. Some of their pollsters are telling them so. Their best ones.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (QDnY+)

493 480

Grassley should only allow media and family.

Posted by: Ha at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (MAstk)

494 It's a rather peculiar argument, that the only way you can make a successful argument is to place a bet?

LMAO

Now that's a real American there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (Ydx5u)

495 I've been around the HQ long enough to remember this last election cycle with people at each other's throats. And then everything calmed down when we saw things were going to be okay after all.

Let's wait until after the confirmation fails or succeeds and then regroup instead of lighting our hair on fire in anticipation of the worst.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (4HMW8)

496 I actually think she's been banned before, but you know how it is with the proprietor. Change your hash and don't get in his face and he forgets who you are.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (yQpMk)

It's a she?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (Ydx5u)

497 And I would not allow any spectators in the gallery.

I'd have snipers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (oVJmc)

498 Well, I am going to go back outside, and hang some more siding boards.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (iwUO9)

499 Let's wait until after the confirmation fails or succeeds and then regroup instead of lighting our hair on fire in anticipation of the worst.


Thank you, that's the essence of the bet.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (yQpMk)

500 Let's wait until after the confirmation fails or succeeds and then regroup instead of lighting our hair on fire in anticipation of the worst.
Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (4HMW

There is only one person lighting their hair on fire.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:54 PM (Ydx5u)

501 Since I live in the DC bubble, I'm going to assume that this whole vile, despicable, slanderous, circus is NOT playing well out in the real world? I know I'm growing increasingly furious over it and I'm pretty calm about most things. I live in this stupid town. Everything here is manipulative bullshit. You tend to tune it out. This madness though.....I'm warming up the the "Pinochet" option.

Posted by: Puddleglum, undisclosed location at September 23, 2018 03:54 PM (v62R2)

502 It's a she?


Sorry, xhe.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:54 PM (yQpMk)

503 I actually think she's been banned before, but you know how it is with the proprietor. Change your hash and don't get in his face and he forgets who you are.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 03:52 PM (yQpMk)

It's a she?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (Ydx5u)

----------------

For certain values of "she".

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 03:54 PM (I16G8)

504

It works. It works with half the people.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:55 PM (4o/yn)

505 If Feinstein thought the FBI needed to investigate, she should have shared the letter with the committee and referred it to the FBI. In July.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:55 PM (lwiT4)

506 It's a she?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (Ydx5u)


No; I would actually bet that's not a she but that's evidently not one of the wagers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:55 PM (AllCR)

507 472 Her claim that she thought that by
putting his hand over her mouth he might suffocate her in the course of the festivities.

Why? Did she have nose plugs in?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:46 PM (AllCR)


Exactly. How often have you seen gals put their hands over their mouths when surprised or laughing? How many suffocated from doing so?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:55 PM (YdaIJ)

508 And talk about a hilariously empty bluff. Last thing in the world the Dems want is for Ford to go under oath. And to have the witnesses who've debunked/not confirmed her "story", who have already done so under liability for perjury (so, equivalent of under oath or FBI interview), reiterate their unwelcome statements.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:56 PM (QDnY+)

509 Let's wait until after the confirmation fails or succeeds and then regroup instead of lighting our hair on fire in anticipation of the worst.
Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:53 PM (4HMW



Ha!! Who let the rational one in?

Posted by: LASue at September 23, 2018 03:56 PM (Z48ZB)

510
Has the FBI made a definitive, public statement on their decision to not investigate?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:56 PM (4o/yn)

511 Sarah Alin was far from intelligent or well spoken
Everything coming out of her mouth was word salad
And to have her family a heart beat away from the White House ???????
Posted by: Comrade at September 23, 2018 03:36 PM (NXQ8M)

Captain Dumbfuck has returned. Hey, Tard, it's rather funny to listen to someone that put the stupidest POS in the history of the nation in the White House. Both the incompetent grifter-in-chief and pervy Uncle Joe. For 8 years you fuckwits had them in office and you are incapable of seeing the hypocrisy of denigrating Sarah Palin while going down on your two dream birds. Blow me.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 23, 2018 03:56 PM (9BLnV)

512 245---Clinton and Carter had Southern accents as well.
Posted by: buzzion at September 23, 2018 03:02 PM (cAnNx)
------------------------
Carter went through training to change/moderate his accent.
Clinton did not. If anything, he liked to exaggerate it sometimes. When he was at Yale Law, he adopted the persona of the Southern charmer and laid it one thick.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 23, 2018 03:57 PM (0jtPF)

513 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 03:55 PM (YdaIJ)

Only the poor put upon future Democrats who have a narcissistic strain and possibly some personality disorders.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 03:58 PM (AllCR)

514 Not just midwestern accents. Any regional accent is poison and not just politics.




zombie JFK: I couldn't agree morah

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 03:58 PM (SiINZ)

515
I don't think being under oath worries her or the D's.

1. No one is going to ask her tough questions at the hearing.
2. It's the Cuck Senate. What are they gonna do to a perjurer?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:58 PM (4o/yn)

516 >>>It got to where I had to do that when it was Ch*mJeff

they are equals now

Posted by: concrete girl at September 23, 2018 03:58 PM (1YQLC)

517 Puddle, there is anecdotal and other evidence, without anything contrary, indicating your reaction is the predominant reaction nationally. And after Ford's last-minute no-show, or debacle before the committee, that will grow and become cemented.


We have the makings here of one of the most epic self-destructive political stunts in our lifetimes.


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 03:58 PM (QDnY+)

518 63
Apparently Patty Murray's long hold on the title of Dumbest Senator is
in real peril. The airhead from HI, Hirono, is making a move.





Apparently this morning on TV she blazed legitimately new,
jaw-dropping territory in the Dems' ongoing effort to create a
completely idiotic, lawless, hate-based society (talking about Kav, of
course).





Won't take time away from cleaning 30-06 brass and washing dishes to
look at it, but some here are gluttons for punishment, so, passing it
along.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:27 PM (QDnY+)

Patty Murray not the dumbest Senator? No, the Hawaiian Senator that told men to just shut up may be having a magnificent week at being a stupid pile of rocks, but Hirono is just on a hot streak.

Sports statiticians call it "returning to the norm". Hirono is a stupid moron for a couple of weeks, on a single issue.

Patty on the other hand, is consistently stupid on a wide variety of important issues. Patty once, many years ago when Boeing was hurting, thousands were out of work, and Bill Clinton was negotiating to get the Saudis to buy Boeing instead of Airbus, which meant thousands of high paying jobs for the Puget Sound.

The secret negotiations went on for months. At the 11th hour, 59 minute, it looked like Boeing was going to get an order for over $3 billion. So Patty went on the news and bragged about it, because she was in on the negotiations (aware, not a part of). The Saudis were supremely insulted, and a few days later, announced a 1.1 billion Boeing order, and a 1.8 billion Airbus order. It was expected to be 100% Boeing, until Patty bragged about it.
I will never forget that one, watched it unfold over a week on the local news and local Business Journal. It hurt a lot of working people.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 23, 2018 03:58 PM (UsCnO)

519 Rob, Grump, NGU,

Perhaps my comments aren't directed at you.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 03:59 PM (4HMW8)

520 Margarita - the Cubs are winning, but so are the Brewers. I think the magic number is six but I'm not sure. One week to go.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:59 PM (lwiT4)

521 You can easily suffocate somebody with your hands in less than a minute without too much effort. I have seen this many time on TV. She was in serious danger.
Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 03:47 PM (MxEKc)


Yep. Just like the plot device of someone knocked out and coming to half an hour later. In real life, such people are called "dead."

A friend of mine just got accidentally kneed in the head by a runner during a baseball game, and was knocked out for almost ten minutes. He's recovering nicely from the emergency brain surgery to drain the bleeding in his brain that saved his life.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 04:00 PM (YdaIJ)

522

Shoo.

Shuffle off to your food thread.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 04:00 PM (4o/yn)

523
Has the FBI made a definitive, public statement on their decision to not investigate?
Posted by: Soothsayer
----------

As far as I know, it's outside of their bailiwick.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 23, 2018 04:00 PM (1iicH)

524 I'm going upstairs to look for the food thread.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 04:00 PM (MVjcR)

525 I don't have any young people in my church-not 30's-40's but the subject came up today after church and none of them believe her, and I have no idea how all of them voted and don't ask. They don't believe her and can't stand the histrionics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 04:00 PM (AllCR)

526 It all had to be constructed carefully. The description of the event had to be horrible, but not so horrible as to trigger a "and you never told your parents or the cops?" reaction. the planting of the story had to convey reluctance, but also the ability to be acted on swiftly. only mystery to me is how they decided what names to include as being at the scene. there's a rationale behind it, but it must have been faulty since none of them are playing along.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 23, 2018 04:01 PM (2xR5z)

527 The Year of Javy

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 04:01 PM (lwiT4)

528 Yes, FBI has done the standard thing, described how they had no jurisdiction over a state crime (alleged, sort of kind of half-way), and added the report to the background file without action.


And yes, Ford will be asked "tough" questions, since the factual ones are the tough ones.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 04:01 PM (QDnY+)

529 Put away the maple syrup, CBD is in the house
PIZZA NOOD

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 04:02 PM (T4oHT)

530 Margarita - the Cubs are winning, but so are the Brewers. I think the magic number is six but I'm not sure. One week to go.

Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:59 PM (lwiT4)



Yes, it's six. Not getting any help today from Pittsburgh or San Fran

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (SiINZ)

531 Ugh.....tried to have a conversation with a couple of liberal friends of mine on the intrinsic goodness and badness of people, and how God is the ultimate judge, and it went as well as you can imagine it did.

As "academics" obviously their academically minded philosophy is far superior to my simple minded theism.

Arrrrgh. You can't even have a non-political discussion anymore. It's all about "YOU'RE WRONG" and being high and mighty and not about civil discourse.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (TL2pK)

532 510
Has the FBI made a definitive, public statement on their decision to not investigate?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 03:56 PM (4o/yn)


I'm wondering how they would investigate an event with such a wide range of possible times or places.

"This one time, this thing happened. I don't remember exactly where."

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 04:03 PM (4HMW8)

533
As "academics" obviously their academically minded philosophy is far superior to my simple minded theism.


Interesting that I was reading about 'Scientism' this morning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 04:05 PM (oVJmc)

534 only mystery to me is how they decided what names to include as being at the scene.

One of Kavanaugh's friends -- one named as being there -- wrote a book about his history and fight with alcoholism. Apparently lots of classmate names in it.

The surprising one was Ford's friend who flatly denies it happened.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 23, 2018 04:06 PM (naEeR)

535 520 Margarita - the Cubs are winning, but so are the Brewers. I think the magic number is six but I'm not sure. One week to go.
Posted by: grammie winger's ipad at September 23, 2018 03:59 PM (lwiT4)
-----------------------------------
Too close for comfort!
I'd be happier if the beer people would lose.
Not to mention those red birds.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 23, 2018 04:06 PM (0jtPF)

536
One of Kavanaugh's friends -- one named as being there -- wrote a
book about his history and fight with alcoholism. Apparently lots of
classmate names in it.


A perfect blueprint for a fake story.

Judge should sue for plagiarism.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 04:07 PM (oVJmc)

537 If this were Obama's NSA, they would release her deleted Facebook chats where Ford talked about using this same story on Gorsuch, who was her contemporary.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:10 PM (yQpMk)

538 Ahoy! Mateys! Tonight, featuring on the Cuckold Deck, we discuss the celebrity created by the opulence of prosperity. Don't forget to bring your bluetooth cockrings for a platinum level of advanced coital stimulation!

Posted by: William Kristol, Editor-At-Large at September 23, 2018 04:10 PM (Z9C5C)

539 The Keysey woman who denied knowing Kav or ever being at an event as (sort of) described is a spectacular blow to Ford's delicate fraud. Not only does it put all named "witnesses" in the "never happened" camp, she's apparently a long-time friend or acquaintance of Ford. So an even worse look for Ford.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 04:11 PM (QDnY+)

540 Who wants to see me go on one of these cruises wearing a full selection of MAGA gear and spouting out Trump Doctrine to everyone who will listen and not listen?

I've been told I can be a bit annoying when I put my mind to it.

Posted by: Orson at September 23, 2018 04:12 PM (VNspr)

541 I think the Dems' absurd inquisition of Kav over high school behaviors in general will just add to the catastrophe they are making for themselves.


Tester, Manchin, Donnelly et al are probably screaming behind closed doors at these people. Well, it's more than "probably", but let's leave it at that.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 04:13 PM (QDnY+)

542 Too close for comfort!
I'd be happier if the beer people would lose.
Not to mention those red birds.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 23, 2018 04:06 PM (0jtPF)


They've got a series against each other this week. So one will have to lose.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 04:13 PM (SiINZ)

543 Grassley should put all four of the named attendees on the puublic witness list for after Ford's testimony. Even if he has no intention of calling them.

The woman will be a car-crash.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 23, 2018 04:14 PM (yQpMk)

544 "Has the FBI made a definitive, public statement on their decision to not investigate?"
If they were to investigate, wouldn't Ford be the first person they would talk to? Even if there was an actual crime, I can't imagine they would start an investigation without getting an official statement from Ford (who probably would not be willing to give one).

Posted by: sillyme at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (Ak/B3)

545 Above all, Mr. Kristol is a defeatist. He has this publication (allegedly) about and for conservative values, but anytime I have seen this joker on TV or anywhere else the past 20-25 years, all he does is whine and bellyache about how conservatism is doomed to fail.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at September 23, 2018 04:17 PM (lkFVB)

546 @63
Patty Murray is stupid?

Patty Murray was able to outmaneuver Paul Ryan on budget reconciliation and got him to sign off on fucking over the military.

Mazzie Horono is stupid?

She along with mob boss DiChi have been able to strong arm Chuckle head Grassley and the rest of the GOP fucktards into potentially derailing Trumps SCOTUS nominee all the while establishing as precedent that vague, decades old accusations of sexual misconduct however impossible, however implausible, however unlikely to be able to prove one way or the other can be leveled at the denouement of the confirmation process by essentially a cypher and democrat agent, and not only do they have to be taken seriously, they require your SCOTUS nominee to sit and be slandered and humiliated on national television.

My definition of stupid drastically differs from yours.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 04:19 PM (kT3/m)

547 These people are not stupid.

They are satanic and evil.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 04:21 PM (kT3/m)

548 Left getting nervous about kav election fallout.


https://tinyurl.com/ydac36p6

Posted by: Ha at September 23, 2018 04:26 PM (MAstk)

549 Personally, I don't know what is going to happen.

I think that Grassley, et al are trying to appear "concerned" about the allegations for the PR. What's a few more days? So what if Kav is not confirmed until next week. Do you think that if he missed the Oct. 1 beginning of the session, his vote on the court after that won't count?

Sheesh.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 04:28 PM (3HNOQ)

550 @549
There is a larger point at play than merely if Kavenaugh is confirmed.


I believe, and pray, that he will be.

It's the precedents that are being set are what is making me insane and fearing for the future to come, where....

EVERY FUCKING NOMINEE OR CANDIDATE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SAME GUANTLET!!!

What Grassley and the GOP have allowed to transpire here is fucking insane.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 04:31 PM (kT3/m)

551 "Patty on the other hand, is consistently stupid on a wide variety of important issues. Patty once, many years ago when Boeing was hurting, thousands were out of work, and Bill Clinton was negotiating to get the Saudis to buy Boeing instead of Airbus, which meant thousands of high paying jobs for the Puget Sound.

"The secret negotiations went on for months. At the 11th hour, 59 minute, it looked like Boeing was going to get an order for over $3 billion. So Patty went on the news and bragged about it, because she was in on the negotiations (aware, not a part of). The Saudis were supremely insulted, and a few days later, announced a 1.1 billion Boeing order, and a 1.8 billion Airbus order. It was expected to be 100% Boeing, until Patty bragged about it.
I will never forget that one, watched it unfold over a week on the local news and local Business Journal. It hurt a lot of working people."

And yet they will all very, very cheerfully vote for Patty Murray, again and again.

("Working people"? That's like 99% of the population. Be more specific.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at September 23, 2018 04:32 PM (lkFVB)

552 There is a simple solution. But Grassley effed up. Should have had the vote last Thurs. or whenever the 5 days were expired.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 04:34 PM (3HNOQ)

553 Whiskey Politics talks to Larry Elder

https://youtu.be/H3WTtxSFaR4

His channel deserves to grow

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 23, 2018 04:41 PM (rnAwa)

554 I tend to think Kav wil be confirmed but can't put any odds or even strong confidence it will happen. We are in a surreal world anymore where fact and logic don't matter anymore, at least not compared to emotions and the narrative. If Dr. Ford folds, who know what insanity the left will come up with this week, their idiot base will believe every word of it and the whole shit-show starts again. We have a small majority of sane adults in the senate but I'm expecting lefty mobs to disrupt things. They have already forced Grassley to blink, slow things down and will do whatever it takes to repeat.

Posted by: Ripley at September 23, 2018 04:46 PM (MxEKc)

555 URK omg thread shear HRRRR

*pants*
*spits*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 04:50 PM (y87Qq)

556 554. Feel the same way Ripley.

There was a line drawn by not only Grass, but Flake too, for Monday.

GOP now on defense

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 04:52 PM (HrSJb)

557 🛳🛳🛳🛳🛳
🚢🚢🚢🚢🚢
🍆

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 23, 2018 04:53 PM (rnAwa)

558 546. Murray and Hirino also lost on Gorsuch, Tax Cuts etc...

Dems do not matter, it is the RINO's who are sinking the ship

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 04:54 PM (HrSJb)

559 "I have tried to be a good republican ;but it like trying to be a good nazi!" sen. jeff flake.

Posted by: wammo at September 23, 2018 04:57 PM (ClImL)

560 I'm sure the "brilliant," well-heeled, Ed Wheelan-type "consultants" and "insiders" are telling Kavanaugh to just read a short statement saying he didn't do it and then take questions from the foaming-at-the-mouth Senators.

What he should do is go through the evidence, point by point, and annihilate Ford's claim, just like he would if he was writing a decision. That is what would get played on the news. As opposed to shit-for-brains GOP Senators who can't ever spit out a cogent statement.

Posted by: Deep Frozen State at September 23, 2018 05:02 PM (XcgmW)

561 OK, so I've been business traveling all freaking day. Can someone catch me up on what's going on with the Ford Fiesta shitshow?

I know the Monday vote is cancelled and a 10:00 THURSDAY (freaking Thursday) nomination hearing, Day Freaking Five, is scheduled. Did Grassley completely cave on Professor DelicateBlossom's blackmail attempts? Is Kav going first? Is JC counsel allowed to question?

So. Much. Fail.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 05:03 PM (ig+cH)

562 Ed Whelan was taken down by the PC crowd this weekend. A never trumper who cannot take the heat

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 05:05 PM (HrSJb)

563 Hearing is at 10 am Thursday, execution by firing squad is at 6 am Friday, appeals must be filed by COB following Monday.

Posted by: Deep Frozen State at September 23, 2018 05:05 PM (XcgmW)

564 How long do they think Kav will hold on?

Posted by: Jonah at September 23, 2018 05:06 PM (HrSJb)

565 Ok, hear me out. I have a new theory. There was a FIFTH person in the house besides and K, F, and the three witnesses. That person did it.

Posted by: Ed Whelan at September 23, 2018 05:09 PM (XcgmW)

566 You can find the e-mails between Grassley's staff and Ford's lawyers here. The staff got rolled by quite aggressive lawyers
https://tinyurl.com/ybds8kah

My theory that Grassley would move stop conceding and move forward tomorrow morning turned out wrong.

Grassley gave up time, which the Left will keep using to build the circus. At least a few of the D Senators will use their time to shit on Kav.

Left is going Nihilist. Object it to discourage future nominees. And to fund raise.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (1UZdv)

567 Bork Bork Bork Justice Kavanaugh!
Bork Bork on the head.

Posted by: Evil Dr Ford-Stein at September 23, 2018 05:19 PM (vUIKw)

568 The Surrender Party does what is does best.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 05:22 PM (r9UYA)

569 @566

Wow, that's a pretty pathetic series of exchanges.

Lawyer for Ford was wearing the big boy pants and the GOP thumb sucker was taking it good and hard


The GOP is a useless pile of dog shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (kT3/m)

570 564.
Long enough for Democrats to have very little time to fundraise and reach their constituents before midterm elections.

Posted by: Martell at September 23, 2018 05:25 PM (ZVokc)

571 Calendars? Really? Kavanaugh kept daily calendars for years?

Posted by: Martell at September 23, 2018 05:27 PM (ZVokc)

572 I just looked at a new map of the USA and Iowa is now represented by huge fucking clown head. FFS.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 05:29 PM (r9UYA)

573 Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 05:17 PM (1UZdv)

Thanks. So it boils down to...

1) Ford goes first, and is placed under oath
2) Public/Private TBD by Ford
3) She'll get questions from whoever Grassley decides will ask questions
4) Thursday 10:00

Yeah, that sucks. My money is still on "DOCTOR Ford has come-down with pneumonia and won't be able to testify until the next CONgress is sworn-in". What Grassley does then is anyone's freaking guess at this point.

The Chairman looks forward to hearing from Dr. Ford, because he considers her allegations very serious.

Bull. Freaking. Shiite.

A drunk 17-year old boy getting handsy with a drunk 15-year old girl is not a serious allegation - much less a "very serious" (cue ominous music) allegation.

Posted by: DocJ at September 23, 2018 05:30 PM (ig+cH)

574 Keyes is a stalwart conservative, that's his only drawback as far as electability is concerned. He's a very in-your-face plain spoken person. No soft spine or bullshit ambiguity. It's all the more tragic since he's the guy who lost to Obama in the Illinois senate election.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 03:05 PM (/qEW2)



There is a debate between Keyes and Dershowitz on Utub, I think. Outstanding. Smart guy.

Terrible candidate. Maybe SRC didn't give him support.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 23, 2018 05:34 PM (S8ZhK)

575 PDT must be so pissed at Grassley and McConnell. Inept baboons.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 05:34 PM (r9UYA)

576 I hate to come in at the last minute, but:
Dr Ford says Kavanaugh goes first.

OK, he already went first, for three days. And DiFI had the info, so he's already been available. Now it's time for Dr. Ford to go second.

What am I missing?

Posted by: Actaully inside the beltway at September 23, 2018 05:40 PM (PBhOo)

577 Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 23, 2018 05:42 PM (S8ZhK)

578 I hate to come in at the last minute, but:
Dr Ford says Kavanaugh goes first.

OK, he already went first, for three days. And DiFI had the info, so he's already been available. Now it's time for Dr. Ford to go second.

What am I missing?
Posted by: Actaully inside the beltway at September 23, 2018 05:40 PM (PBhOo)

-------------

The part where Grassley said no phuching way to Kav going first.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 05:45 PM (I16G8)

579 Only way to explain Grassley's fold is (1) the Rs can't count on three or four Flakes in their caucus, and (2) can't count on fence-sitting vulnerable Red State D senators voting for Kav when the outcome is uncertain, because of #1.

So it could go 49-51 against, or 55-45 for.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 05:49 PM (1UZdv)

580 What are the odds Ford will drive cross-country next week despite her Fear of Flying?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (1UZdv)

581 What are the odds Ford will drive cross-country next week despite her Fear of Flying?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 05:50 PM (1UZdv)

---------------

She said nothing about a fear of flying. She just said she didn't want to. That's it.

Besides, she will never testify. Ever.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 05:53 PM (I16G8)

582
What are the odds Ford will drive cross-country next week despite her Fear of Flying?
Posted by: Ignoramus


She's riding her solar powered bicycle.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 05:54 PM (IqV8l)

583 How does one smoke an Halibut...I can barely get a cod on and don't try to get a pollock lighted,though i once smoked a salmon but my cream cheese and bagel smothered the fumare.....

Posted by: saf at September 23, 2018 06:33 PM (5IHGB)

584 I thought I read in one of the threads yesterday that Ford was already on the east coast, or was that never comfirmed?

Posted by: Sillyme at September 23, 2018 06:40 PM (Ak/B3)

585 Tom Fitton on the Kav debacle: Poor Republican leadership.

Let me know when this guy is appointed as AG.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 06:42 PM (r9UYA)

586 She was a woman, so she had to be destroyed.

No, she was a woman who didn't abort her baby, even though he had Down's Syndrome. The Left-wing devils regularly abort their own children, and they want to force you to abort yours.

Every Leftist is right now fantasizing, quite possibly masturbating, about ripping your child out of your/your wife's womb

Think about that

Posted by: Ken at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (SdEXS)

587 Thanks gope. New accuser per drudge/farrow.

Posted by: Ever at September 23, 2018 06:50 PM (OLS0m)

588 Every Leftist is right now fantasizing, quite possibly masturbating, about ripping your child out of your/your wife's womb



Think about that

Posted by: Ken at September 23, 2018 06:49 PM (SdEXS)


Most of us fantasize about throwing them from helicopters. They should think about that

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 23, 2018 06:52 PM (9Om/r)

589 >>587
Thanks gope. New accuser per drudge/farrow.

Of course there is.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 07:03 PM (r9UYA)

590 Dildogate !

McConnell should be a SME.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 07:07 PM (r9UYA)

591 Sorry I missed this thread. There were some good comments, particularly in the first 100 or so.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2018 07:10 PM (sdi6R)

592 Yeah, but he's got a great smug sneering look, and kind of a Thurston Howell III way of speaking.

Posted by: gobagoo at September 23, 2018 07:13 PM (2Ia/C)

593 "Judge Kavanaugh, have you ever owned a sybian?"

Posted by: Octopussy at September 23, 2018 07:18 PM (aE+Pb)

594 Jeb Bush: Americans Urging for Immigration Controls "Threatened' by Less White" Country
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9b5n6c9


!Yeb! has surfaced from the bottom of the swamp.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 07:24 PM (r9UYA)

NYC Subway: It Would Run Great If It Weren't For Those Awful Customers!

So...if I am reading this corrctly, it's the customers who are screwing up an otherwise fine operation! What a typical, clueless, elitist, obtuse and ignorant thing to say.
New York City's Subways Are Slow, Crowded and Smelly -- Officials Say Part of the Problem Is You
The article used to be free, but sometime in the past 24 hours they stuck it behind the paywall. But the title says it all!

The first time I spent any time in London was the early 1980s, during the depths of the London Transport System's failures. It was a total shit-show, but it gradually got better, and now it is a marvel of efficiency, speed, cleanliness and technology, and a source of pride for Londoners. Why NYC can't do the same thing is a testament to the power of the Democrat machine, the iron fist of the unions, and the curious passivity of the typical New Yorker. They should be up in arms and tossing the bums out of office, but they meekly vote the same crooked scum into office year after year. Until that changes, the NYC subway system will be a disaster.

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1 Could it be?

Posted by: Old Dude at September 23, 2018 12:19 PM (LGXGf)

2 Why, yes it could!

Posted by: Old Dude at September 23, 2018 12:19 PM (LGXGf)

3 Kinda lonely, though.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (LGXGf)

4 Forget about it Jake. its NYC town.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (mpXpK)

5 Dude!

Posted by: RI Red at September 23, 2018 12:21 PM (2kfJa)

6 Chirs Wallace invites all 10 Dems from the SJ for 2nd week in a row all have declined.

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 12:21 PM (MAstk)

7 Which level of hell is the subway on?

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 12:22 PM (UdKB7)

8 NY and NYC have spent a boatload on new transit projects but ignored routine maintenance. Cuomo is a prime offender.

FFS the new Fulton subway station cost over $1 billion

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:23 PM (1UZdv)

9 Probably those customers are off to enjoy their daily downdrins.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 12:24 PM (0tfLf)

10

Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car monorail

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 12:25 PM (IqV8l)

11 The important thing is that the Hobos have a place to sleep, piss and shit.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 12:26 PM (AvhlX)

12 Graft and Unions.

Those are your fucking problems.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 12:26 PM (AvhlX)

13 So yesterday was the first day of fall.
Here in the southern and western part of Indiana the weather was funny. Friday 90 degrees And humid, typical summer weather. Saturday it's 65 degrees and raining. Typical fall weather. I don't remember it ever being that distinctive a difference in the weather just because the calendar says so.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 12:27 PM (myjNJ)

14 Typical government bureaucrat's attitude. Just like college administration's opinion: If it weren't for the faculty and students, we'd have a pretty good thing going here.

Most of our nation's woes would be solved by less government. The left's view is that most of our nation's woes would be solved by more government.

Posted by: windbag at September 23, 2018 12:27 PM (m26tZ)

15 Hah! This is why we need bullet trains. We will not tolerate any dillydallying!

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2018 12:27 PM (Z9C5C)

16 >>Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car monorail



Take it to Shelbeyville, huckster!

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 12:27 PM (AvhlX)

17 Subway in NY--a public entity is saying things would be great except for the customers?

I'm absolutely shocked that a government subsidized industry with a captive audience doesn't care about customer service and cleanliness.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 12:28 PM (WEBkv)

18
See Post #1 in Book Thread for important action step for one of our regular not-assholes...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 12:29 PM (UFLLM)

19 If I remember correctly in the 70'a and 80's the NYC subway system and most of the city were much worse than today. Then Guiliani was elected and things improved dramatically. The he was replaced and here we are.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 12:29 PM (rnXGe)

20 The Subway is a series of Tubes!

Posted by: Zombie Larry Craig at September 23, 2018 12:29 PM (AvhlX)

21
Hah! This is why we need bullet trains. We will not tolerate any dillydallying!
Posted by: Fritz


Are they still allowed to call them "bullet" trains?
That's a triggering word.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 12:30 PM (IqV8l)

22
Also, Fvck the NYC Subway Authority.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 12:30 PM (UFLLM)

23 Sad thing is that the NYC subway is so important to making the city work at scale. Even more so after Bloomberg's reformation of street traffic.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:30 PM (1UZdv)

24 Just go ahead and say the minorities are Third Worlding the NYC subway.

If anyone right of Bernie said this bullshit? The place would be Charlie Hebdo'd by now.

Posted by: trev006 at September 23, 2018 12:30 PM (5rZBs)

25 The only subway I have ever encountered is the one that used to have $5 foot long sandwich. I don't get out much.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 12:31 PM (myjNJ)

26 11 The important thing is that the Hobos have a place to sleep, piss and shit.
Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 12:26 PM (AvhlX)

The best part is the Hobo who leaves the biggest pile is receiving the ESPN Arthur Ashe Courage Award this year.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at September 23, 2018 12:32 PM (jp0Bv)

27 The subways were originally built by capitalists.

NYC refused to permit the passenger system. The capitalists then lied on the permit application, claiming they would build a REALLY BIG tube for pnuematic messages for stock brokers, as had already been done.

Later three competing companies served the city. Fairs were a nickel.

As inflation and taxes rose, prices here and there on long runs rose. The city insisted those be sold to a more efficient (crony) operator. At the last, government coercision drove competition out and established a monopoly.

When taxes and inflation rose more, the city took over the subways promising to hold fares at a nickel, forever.

No new lines have been built since.

Posted by: pouncer at September 23, 2018 12:32 PM (L/ssi)

28 Trump's fault, definitely.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 12:32 PM (NFEMn)

29 Can't read the article because paywall, but what are they saying is wrong with it? I haven't been on it in maybe 10 years and it wasn't ever one of the best (Singapore or Montreal), but it worked fine. Yes, sometimes Gene Hackman and Fernando Rey would hold up a train by getting on and off over and over at the same stop and yes, sometimes creeps on roller skates in overalls would try to keep you from getting to Coney Island, but meh. If things being slightly grimy and unpleasant gets you twitchy, maybe New York is not for you.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:32 PM (y87Qq)

30 "the curious passivity of the typical New Yorker. They should be up in arms and tossing the bums out of office, but they meekly vote the same crooked scum into office year after year."


Substitute "typical American blue state voter" for "typical New Yorker".


And, with some exceptions, this is America's story, too. Some signs of life here and there. But, yeah.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 12:33 PM (QDnY+)

31 Fares not fairs. Nothing fair about the NYC subway system.

Posted by: pouncer at September 23, 2018 12:33 PM (L/ssi)

32 It could be worse.

Posted by: Charlie at September 23, 2018 12:33 PM (YTxkQ)

33 I once met someone socially (at a space shuttle launch of all things) who had some position of authority with the NY transit system. Complete loon.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:33 PM (MVjcR)

34 @19 Yep. The subways sucked until Giuliani came in. Many called him a fascist at the time but he made the trains run on time.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:34 PM (1UZdv)

35 just use the bike lanes. problem solved. and, no salt.

Posted by: dr chavez THE hugo md, phd. at September 23, 2018 12:34 PM (KP5rU)

36 I thought the subway was built by the Morlocks.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:35 PM (MVjcR)

37 If I remember correctly in the 70'a and 80's the NYC subway system and most of the city were much worse than today. Then Guiliani was elected and things improved dramatically. The he was replaced and here we are.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 12:29 PM (rnXGe)

That's pretty much why everything falls apart. An unfortunate amount of people decide everything has been made fine, whatever was broken is now fixed, and it will never be broken again because.......uh, we're too busy watching sports ball, trying to get laid, glomming on to whatever the next mindless pursuit is, and pretending to ourselves that after the last disaster the people responsible for things know better now.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at September 23, 2018 12:35 PM (9BLnV)

38 Well, I have seen subways in movies, but not in person. Hey do good guys really Chase bad guys on top of those things? Seems like it must happen a lot.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 12:36 PM (myjNJ)

39 The mayor that promised a nickel subway fare forever and ever also had the elevated light rail system demolished to prevent competition with subways.

Later politicians named the airport after the mayor that REDUCED the number of passengers the overall transportation system of NYC could move every day.

Name that party.

Posted by: pouncer at September 23, 2018 12:36 PM (L/ssi)

40 The unions don't want to get paid off in maintenance jobs. Construction pays much more.

A 50 year, Trillion Dollar Plan is what "The City" needs. It is the Only City That Matters (tm).

Posted by: ro-man at September 23, 2018 12:37 PM (RuIsu)

41 When the conductor jacks a round into the Ma Deuce mounted on the turret of his caboose it's, "All Aboard!"

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2018 12:38 PM (Z9C5C)

42 39: must have been the whigs. a progressive democrat would never think that way.

Posted by: dr chavez THE hugo md, phd. at September 23, 2018 12:38 PM (KP5rU)

43 My recollection of NYC subway circa 1981:

Panhandler: Got any change?

Me: Nope, sorry!

[Two minutes later-distant shouting]

Panhandler: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, FUCK OFF!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 23, 2018 12:38 PM (v1udk)

44 NYC subway now has a lot of delays, and it's dirtier. It's also gotten overcrowded.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:38 PM (1UZdv)

45 *clears throat*
*taps mic*

"Detroit People Mover"

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:39 PM (y87Qq)

46 The Democrat Machines in NYC have had it good for a long time. Good--for them. They negotiate sweetheart deals for and with the very unions that rape them on a daily basis , get locked-in voting blocks, kickbacks and campaign donations --and then simply pass the cost onto the backs of both the poor and stressed-out commuters, both of whom can be relied upon to loyally support the same Democrat Machine. All the while maintenance and service gets worse and worse......
And then when it all goes tits-up every twenty years or so--well, they just blame the Republican President and Congress.
And so it goes.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 12:39 PM (NFEMn)

47 34
@19 Yep. The subways sucked until Giuliani came in. Many called him a
fascist at the time but he made the trains run on time.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:34 PM (1UZdv)

The greatest transformation was Times Square. That was basically a sleazy red light district until he cleaned it up.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 12:40 PM (rnXGe)

48 Yes, but you can be sure that Global Warming is being addressed.

Posted by: West at September 23, 2018 12:41 PM (TOSg1)

49 @17. ...that a government subsidized industry with a captive audience doesn't care....

****

And that sums it up nicely.

Spent three days in NY. I'll never go back.


Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 12:42 PM (0tfLf)

50 New York is permanently left-wing. It's citizens would NEVER vote for the VERY type of person who would actually improve their lives. They would never vote for a Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 12:43 PM (NFEMn)

51 Ha! The Mugger Mover!

We have something similar here. It's supposed to be used by city folk, but if the conversations of the Berkenstocracy in my office are representative, it's used primarily by car-owning proponents of public transportation who want to feel good about themselves.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:43 PM (kQs4Y)

52 I say piss on the subway daily and it will smell better than the shit on SanFran streets, but maybe only a lil bit
need to salt their earths and burn the shitholes down IMHO.

Posted by: saf at September 23, 2018 12:43 PM (5IHGB)

53 JoeF.
I don't understand. Why would the President and congress be responsible for a city's subway problem? It's a city problem not a fed problem.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 12:43 PM (myjNJ)

54 Chirs Wallace invites all 10 Dems from the SJ for 2nd week in a row all have declined.

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 12:21 PM (MAstk)

I find that very interesting. Not sure what it means, but it seems like that much conformity among people who *love* attention must mean *something*.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 12:43 PM (uquGJ)

55 There haven't been any Bernard Goetz type incidents recently. Is it because a) things have gotten better, b) white, nerdy engineers are now resigned to be mugged and not complain, or c) white, nerdy engineers have wised up about what times to ride or not to ride the NYC subway?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 12:44 PM (/qEW2)

56 The greatest transformation was Times Square. That was basically a sleazy red light district until he cleaned it up

As a matter of fact, after the 1981 subway ride, my friend talked me into going to a strip club in Time Square. It was nasty! One of the strippers was sitting on the steps of the stage with her greasy black hair in her hands, shaking like she was jonesing for a fix.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 23, 2018 12:44 PM (v1udk)

57 The DC Metro has occasional delays and is behind on maintenance, but it is clean and well-run from what I have seen.

DC is also a lib stronghold. Why can't it be done in NYC?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (kQs4Y)

58 At what point does the GOP admit Ford is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the senate.

Her accusations are baseless. She doesn't remember any details and offer none, except Kavanaugh did this.

The four purported people present including one woman have denied it ever happened.

She has now changed her story and even states her therapist is wrong in her account.

There isn't even enough here for any investigation.

Yet Fox publishes a "poll" saying more people don't want Kavanaugh confirmed? F Fox, BTW. Who did they poll, the village idiots association?

Just take the vote already GOP. This is a joke. You look like idiots.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (w5kO1)

59
A little know fact: 1/27th of all NYC subway trains are actually one way trips to the people cracker factory. Social isolates, illegals, dropouts, deplorables and others unlikely to be missed are routed via selective ticketing onto the 'kibble kars' and offloaded into the nutrient vats where they become additives for Malt 40's, Menthol Kools, Twinkies filling, and other EBT SNAP Card best sellers...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (UFLLM)

60 I was gonna take an Amtrak to Capitol Hill but this thread has given me PTSD about trains.

Guess I'll take an Uber

Posted by: Christine Blasey Ford at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (k5hWy)

61 I'm having cognitive dissonance. Media is going nuts speculating about a Kav hearing on Thursday but I see nothing official about it's happening.

I'm hazy on my contract law. If I [Grassley] make an offer with specific terms with a specific time deadline for acceptance [Saturday afternoon], and then the deadline passes, and then the other side [Ford's lawyer] offers other terms and a willingness to keep negotiating, do we have a deal?

Media is going nuts about this Thursday hearing that will never happen. Grassley gave a final deadline and it passed. He hasn't said anything, because why should he. He's going to enjoy his Sunday, then go to work tomorrow where the first item on the agenda is to vote Kav out of committee. Then the full Senate votes.

This isn't fake news. It's insane news. What am I missing?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (1UZdv)

62
What's so good about NYC anyway?

Buncha farkin assholes, if you ask me.

oooh tall buildings!

oooh traffic!

oooh freaks!

No thanks.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (4o/yn)

63
If it wasn't for the MTA Bridges and Tunnels (the old Triborough Authority) the subways would be out of business in 20 minutes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 12:46 PM (LsBY9)

64 If NYC subways have reached a sufficient level of dirtiness and overcrowding, it's safe to say NYC is in no dire need of more illegal aliens.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 12:47 PM (/qEW2)

65 Only public transit I used in NYC was the bus. Nothing icky about whatever that acronym was.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 12:47 PM (wy4/l)

66 46
The Democrat Machines in NYC have had it good for a long time.
Good--for them. They negotiate sweetheart deals for and with the very
unions that rape them on a daily basis , get locked-in voting blocks,
kickbacks and campaign donations --and then simply pass the cost onto
the backs of both the poor and stressed-out commuters, both of whom can
be relied upon to loyally support the same Democrat Machine. All the
while maintenance and service gets worse and worse......

And then when it all goes tits-up every twenty years or so--well, they just blame the Republican President and Congress.

And so it goes.....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 12:39 PM (NFEMn)

And they all got pissed off because Trump killed federal subsidy that new 'train' from NJ to Manhattan because it did not connect to any nationwide system and served only NY.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:47 PM (mpXpK)

67 A lot of people don't realize this but Giuliani was elected because some of the most powerful interests in NYC let him win. Seriously. Dinkins had done such a horrible job--and before him, Koch wasn't much better--and certain people (and groups) who would never normally vote for anything with a (R) by their name knew that the city needed cleaning up and that Giuliani was the one man who could do it. So they let it happen.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 12:47 PM (NFEMn)

68
At what point does the GOP admit Ford is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the senate.

They can't.

Republicans, except for President Trump, will always play by the Left's rules.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:47 PM (4o/yn)

69
Say, I wonder if posters in the NYC Subway would boost cruise ticket sales? Genius!

Posted by: Cock Curious Cuck Cruise Captain at September 23, 2018 12:48 PM (UFLLM)

70 57
The DC Metro has occasional delays and is behind on maintenance, but it is clean and well-run from what I have seen.



DC is also a lib stronghold. Why can't it be done in NYC?



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (kQs4Y)

The DC Metro is different in that it was designed from the start to double as nuclear bunkers/fallout shelters.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 12:48 PM (rnXGe)

71 I'd sure like to ride the Bronx Express.

Posted by: Alvin York at September 23, 2018 12:49 PM (IqV8l)

72

Bane had the right idea.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:49 PM (4o/yn)

73 Fox poll today

50% oppose Kav, down 6% in a week

Every day it is delayed opposition grows. The GOP was played for chumps again giving her a 2 week delay.

After 60 minute it will be 60% oppose.

Cuck Grassley cucked bigly.



Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 12:49 PM (VLDAb)

74 Ha! The Mugger Mover!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:43 PM (kQs4Y)


Where else can you get a whole train to yourself during rush hour?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:49 PM (y87Qq)

75 58 Yet Fox publishes a "poll" saying more people don't
want Kavanaugh confirmed? F Fox, BTW. Who did they poll, the village
idiots association?



Just take the vote already GOP. This is a joke. You look like idiots.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (w5kO1)

And they do not give a breakdown on who they "sampled" so that poll is worthless.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:49 PM (mpXpK)

76 How do Chicago and Baltimore's subways compare? If they are better, is there some constant that involves the sum of murders and subway crappiness?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 12:50 PM (/qEW2)

77 I saw a video the other day of a giant rat running around a subway car jumping on people and just generally freaking out. If there is any chance of that happening uh uh I ain't getting on.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 12:50 PM (UdKB7)

78 The greatest transformation was Times Square. That was basically a sleazy red light district until he cleaned it up.


I hate that. Disneyfication of NYC.

When I moved there in '83 everything still looked like an early Scorcese movie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 12:51 PM (fuK7c)

79

I grew up riding the subway 9x a day going to visit my sharecropper black lesbian grandmother uphill each way in tunnel snowstorms being chased by Repug Klanners on snowsnakes!

Posted by: Commandante Occasional-Cervix at September 23, 2018 12:51 PM (UFLLM)

80
Republicans, with their doddering and acquiescence, have helped dragged Kavanaugh through the mud.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:51 PM (4o/yn)

81 Media is going nuts about this Thursday hearing that will never happen. Grassley gave a final deadline and it passed. He hasn't said anything, because why should he. He's going to enjoy his Sunday, then go to work tomorrow where the first item on the agenda is to vote Kav out of committee. Then the full Senate votes.

This isn't fake news. It's insane news. What am I missing?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (1UZdv)

Either we're wrong or the media is pretending that there's a deal for Thursday so they can pretend shock and outrage if/when Grassley calls for a vote tomorrow.
They'll say "He lied! He broke the deal! Now she'll never get to tell her side of the story!!"

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 12:52 PM (NFEMn)

82 I think the subway reached its low point in the 80's with graffiti covered cars, windows and all. Finally, the MTA found a solution that worked. They hired David L. Gunn as the president of the Transit Authority, who had previously cleaned up trains in Boston, Philadelphia, DC, and Toronto, but even he termed the NYC subway cleanup a suicide mission. But he was tough and especially on those who considered giraffe as "art".
From: Milroad Consultants.

Posted by: Colin at September 23, 2018 12:52 PM (Ke8sO)

83 I hate that. Disneyfication of NYC.



When I moved there in '83 everything still looked like an early Scorcese movie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 12:51 PM (fuK7c)

You could always come to New Orleans before they're able to Disneyfy it. Some are trying.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 12:53 PM (rnXGe)

84 Getting serious crime down -- especially murders -- was critical to Giuliani's success. Getting illegal guns off the street was part of this.

We still have the lowest major crime rate of any large American city, by far.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:53 PM (1UZdv)

85 I have never been on the NYC subway, though earlier this year I was in Boston and rode the T or whatever it is called.

Is NYC worse? I did not care for the T much.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at September 23, 2018 12:53 PM (QSPY6)

86 73. That straight from the stable?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 12:53 PM (fA1SL)

87 Can we stop worrying about Dr Fart until tomorow at 10 please?

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 12:53 PM (UdKB7)

88
I like to paint out giraffe's spots and replace them with stripes, LOL, I'm such a rebel...

Posted by: Giraffe Artist at September 23, 2018 12:54 PM (UFLLM)

89 87. No. If he doesn't post nonsensical bullshit, they'll repossess his thumbs.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 12:54 PM (fA1SL)

90 The Boston T is like a toy train set compared to NYC's subway. Like comparing the Red Sox to the Yankees.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 12:54 PM (1UZdv)

91 Well, the NYC Transit Authority does have an efficient and well trained group of farriers. They are ready to spring into action should an emergency arise and horse transport become necessary.
Funny, that union shop has existed since the 1840's.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 23, 2018 12:55 PM (e1mEI)

92

btw, still waiting for an answer.
Does anyone here speak Millennialese?

"What does "SLAYING LEWKS" mean?

That's what occasiocortes said in defense of her magazine photoshoot: "Get used to me slaying lewks."




Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:55 PM (4o/yn)

93 How do Chicago and Baltimore's subways compare?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 12:50 PM (/qEW2)


Actual residents would certainly know the routes better, but I don't think I've ever been on a Chicago train that wasn't above ground for most of the trip. I think there are some subway sections, but I don't know where.

I was never personally murdered on a train in Chicago but I did spend the entire hour trip from Midway to Union Station sitting across from a guy in white pants who had pissed himself at some time in the recent past and did not appear to have been paying proper attention to his hydration.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:55 PM (y87Qq)

94
What's so good about NYC anyway?

Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 12:56 PM (IqV8l)

95 Hate to divert from NYC topic, but Igno, haven't checked around. Just silence on the "tentative" Thurs. thing? Hard to see how the nutcase shows now, with the whole exiguous fact-free case a smoking crater of contradictory statements from the only known witnesses.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 12:56 PM (QDnY+)

96
Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.?


Good point.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:56 PM (4o/yn)

97 My recollection of NYC subway circa 1981:

Panhandler: Got any change?

Me: Nope, sorry!

[Two minutes later-distant shouting]

Panhandler: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, FUCK OFF!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at September 23, 2018 12:38 PM (v1udk)

I was watching South Park this morning, and they had an episode where homeless people had taken over the city, wandering around asking for spare change. Hilarious as usual.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (+F0Wk)

98 A lewk is a marine bivalve akin to the cockle, found in the Gowanus Canal.

Often served with garlic, leeks, and lye.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (fuK7c)

99 Either we're wrong or the media is pretending that
there's a deal for Thursday so they can pretend shock and outrage
if/when Grassley calls for a vote tomorrow.

They'll say "He lied! He broke the deal! Now she'll never get to tell her side of the story!!"

Posted by: JoeF.


That is precisely correct. At this point, that's their only option.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (T6t7i)

100 Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.?

Paris Arrondissement #10?

Posted by: Giraffe Artist at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (UFLLM)

101 >>What's so good about NYC anyway?


If you have to ask...

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (AvhlX)

102 NBC poll has bad news for Dems.

No blue wave. And MEN are more interested than women?

Hmmmm

https://tinyurl.com/y7rdbsun

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (MAstk)

103 Funny enough though, the LA subway is pretty good cuz it has almost no customers. The MTA could be onto something.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (VLDAb)

104 Chicago has the El. Elevated trains. Also Amtrak.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (lwiT4)

105 59. Thank God I smoked Salem Longs, not Kool Filter Kings.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (wy4/l)

106
Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.?


Zimbabwee?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 12:58 PM (4o/yn)

107 When we lived in New York I never once went on the subway. Are you kidding me?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 12:58 PM (lwiT4)

108 83 You could always come to New Orleans before they're able to Disneyfy it. Some are trying.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 12:53 PM (rnXGe)

In New Orleans you do not want to live anywhere but in that one block area on Bourbon Street where the Mardi Gras is big. I doubt if there is anywhere you can live there. The rest of New Orleans is a crime ridden 3rd world shit-hole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (mpXpK)

109
The pissoirs must be pissed upon ... or else.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (WkMnJ)

110 96
Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.?
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Does dinner cost a gazillion dollars?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (MVjcR)

111 Wut? That poll has dems +12. This is some interesting unskewing

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (VLDAb)

112 106


Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.
Zimbabwee?

Nope, Communism reduced them to starvation. Only thing available to eat there now is other Zimbabweans, otherwise known as 'bush meat.'

Posted by: Giraffe Artist at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (UFLLM)

113 I have never actually desired to be wealthy until this Ford incident...

If I had millions of dollars sitting in the bank with which to hire attorneys, bribe 'witnesses,' etc., then one of Ford's sons would be spending this Christmas fighting a rape accusation.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (5aX2M)

114 All I can remember is stories about interurban lines in IL all shutting down one day, late 60s. Fox Valley line was the worst -- Elgin to Aurora -- and totally shut down big cities in NoIll because nobody could get there without a car. The buses started 30 years ago that run to any surviving train stations are still mostly empty 50 years later from that initial shutdown.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 01:00 PM (MIKMs)

115 I rode the Boston subway to the end of the line one time. When we got there I was like "wtf did I miss my stop or what this is the end of the line". Then I figured out that was my stop. There were maybe two people in the car, everyone else had already got off. I was also Winter and pretty much sucked.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:00 PM (UdKB7)

116 Igno, what would the violent crime rate be if NYC had concealed carry? Uh huh. Probably even lower, significantly so.


And a quibble: how do you measure/quantify getting "illegal guns off the streets"? Beyond anecdata, I mean.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 01:00 PM (QDnY+)

117 Does dinner cost a gazillion dollars?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (MVjcR)


I've walked out of several places in NYC because their prices were ridiculous. I remember going to the Tavern on the Green. Entree came with nothing. Everything was an add-on. I think they wanted 9 dollars for a baked potato, and this was in the '80s.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 01:01 PM (lwiT4)

118 BART is a disaster these days. You can (and some do) get killed on it. It was a lot cleaner in its early days, but is just tired and dirty these days.

I've visited London maybe once a year for almost thirty years now. My daughter and grandchildren live in London. I ride the Underground /Tube and the buses. The advent of the Oyster card makes getting on and off London transit fairly easy. You occasionally see some strange things on the Tube---more so in Central London than out in the suburbs at the end of the District Line. Mostly the cars are clean--but I've ridden in some (just this last month) where seats have been ripped off their mount and were lying on the floor.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 23, 2018 01:01 PM (Sda6L)

119 111
Wut? That poll has dems +12. This is some interesting unskewing

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (VLDAb)

Where did you find that. I looked on the Fox news story and could not find the breakdown of sampling.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 01:02 PM (mpXpK)

120 Fox poll today also shows bigly yuuge lead for Dems.

But I know, I know...2016 happened which means no poll can ever be trusted again.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:02 PM (VLDAb)

121 Subway riding is expensive in NY now. Going to college in NYC back in the late 60's it was pretty cheap compared to now. The last time I rode it about 3 years ago, it seemed to run fairly well. No complaints, but it helps to have experience riding a subway, they can be intimidating to many.

Posted by: Colin at September 23, 2018 01:02 PM (Ke8sO)

122 Holy dog that did not bark, Batman!

Back to my Whelan theory. 1: It was not a mistake, it was purposeful. Possibly the timing was off as other components were not in place as planned. (speculation)

2: He did not pick Garrett's name out of the Bethesda Prep yearbook randomly.

3: Whelan knew Keyser's identity when he laid out his tweet thread (not speculation) - and presumably knew what she had said to Judiciary Committee investigators (speculation)

4: Keyser's statement is that she does not know Kavanaugh, never went to a party where he was, wasn't at a party with Ford and Kavanaugh, ever.

5: Keyser likely cannot say that she NEVER went to a party with Ford. Lifelong friends, classmates, and all that.

6: Ford says she socialized with Garrett, even visited in hospital.

7: Question: Did Keyser know Garrett in HS?

8: Non-barking: Does Keyser recall a gathering with Garrett and Ford in HS? Maybe some details like the date? Like what house it was?

Goto 2:




Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (DH5wZ)

123 120. When you're on the clock, you're on the clock. Impressive persistence.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (fA1SL)

124 Either we're wrong or the media is pretending that
there's a deal for Thursday so they can pretend shock and outrage
if/when Grassley calls for a vote tomorrow.

They'll say "He lied! He broke the deal! Now she'll never get to tell her side of the story!!"

Posted by: JoeF.

That is precisely correct. At this point, that's their only option.
Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (T6t7i)

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If there is a deal, I fully expect that she will be hospitalized on Wednesday. See, she really wants to testify. We'll just have to put it off until she heals.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (+F0Wk)

125 I think they wanted 9 dollars for a baked potato, and this was in the '80s.
Posted by: grammie winger

To be fair, there was a potato shortage at the time

Posted by: Bruce at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (8ikIW)

126 ** Taps give-a-fuck meter **

Needle doesn't move. Maybe because it's not set on Eastern Time.

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (FhXTo)

127 I don't understand the outrage at the administrators' statement about the customers being to blame for the subway system's faults. First of all, it's true to some degree, and second of all, even if it wasn't completely true, the attempt to cast blame elsewhere is standard human behavior and not particularly shocking.

There's a lot of blame to go around, but much of it indeed does fall upon the "customers" -- the general public, and the underclasses, who do every imaginable gross and disgusting thing on the subways, and commit every kind of rudeness.

If the subway system if dirty, it was the customers who created that problem. Yes, it might be the administration's fault for "not cleaning it up" sufficiently, but there would be a mess if the public hadn't created it in the first place.

If you ran empty trains all day, and allowed no people into the system, would it somehow become covered in garbage and filth all by itself? No. It would remain pristine and clean.

If you ran trains all day and only the most prim, proper, non-littering, non-spitting nuns rode the trains, they would remain similarly clean.

But let in the New York general public, and boom, disgustingness everywhere.

If the trains are crowded and uncomfortable, perhaps the administration should run more trains. But if people on the existing trains were polite and courteous, it wouldn't be so bad.

If there is crime on the system, yeah the administration should have more crime-fighting policies -- but if human beings/"customers" didn't commit the crimes in the first place, there' no need for police.

So, from my vantage point, blaming the customers is not completely out of line nor untrue. It made be a rude thing to say, and may be an attempt to evade any responsibility, but I made say the same thing myself if I was in the administrators' position.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (c+2jX)

128 Fox poll today also shows bigly yuuge lead for Dems.


In what races?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (lwiT4)

129 Fox poll today also shows bigly yuuge lead for Dems.

But I know, I know...2016 happened which means no poll can ever be trusted again.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:02 PM (VLDAb)

Generic is +7 for Dems.

Their poll prior to that was +11 for Dems.

I can smell your moist panties from here.

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (MAstk)

130 Fox News is lefty biased too. They are just sneaky about it.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (UdKB7)

131 but there would be a mess if
=
but there wouldN'T be a mess if

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (c+2jX)

132 On my first trip to Yurup I was surprised to ride through a Paris Metro stop named "Stalingrad" (now I understand why such a name would happen). Weeks later, in the Leningrad and Moscow metros, no such names. In fact, hazy memory does not recall any Soviet subway stops with Great Patriotic War names (of course, "Stalingrad" would be right out for, well, reasons).


Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (QDnY+)

133 To be fair, there was a potato shortage at the time

Posted by: Bruce at September 23, 2018 01:03 PM (8ikIW)


Ya, now that I think of it, that's right around the time they let the Irish in.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (lwiT4)

134 BART is a disaster these days. You can (and some do) get killed on it. It was a lot cleaner in its early days, but is just tired and dirty these days.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 23, 2018 01:01 PM (Sda6L)


There's a blog around somewhere that has daily pictures of things likeused needles crammed into the seats on BART trains and buses.

You know who would know for sure?

*lights zombie signal*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (y87Qq)

135 In New Orleans you do not want to live anywhere
but in that one block area on Bourbon Street where the Mardi Gras is
big. I doubt if there is anywhere you can live there. The rest of New
Orleans is a crime ridden 3rd world shit-hole.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:59 PM (mpXpK)

Everything you just posted is wrong. First, you don't want to live anywhere near Bourbon Street. The French Quarter has always just been a tourist trap, everywhere else is for locals. Second, Mardi Gras parades happen all over the city and every surrounding city. New Orleans proper is unique in that there really is no good or bad parts of town, every other street can be either good or bad. AirBnB has quickly changed the dynamic for the worse though.

I've given up on New Orleans but for purely personal reasons. Finally growing up had a lot to do with it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (rnXGe)

136 Giving rights to conceal carry in big cities is problematic. Many residents have a different attitude to gun culture. I expect it would end badly.

We are, and will continue to be, two countries when it comes to 2A rights. As someone said, the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (1UZdv)

137 Fox News big headline is about poll.

Smaller text, everyone denies they were at the party.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2018 01:05 PM (DH5wZ)

138 Orrin Hatch is saying what every sane human should be shouting... this accusation against Kav stinks on ice.

https://twitter.com/senorrinhatch

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:05 PM (FTXAT)

139 >> Fox poll today also shows bigly yuuge lead for Dems.


Dems answer pollsters so they can signal their virtue.

Don't believe the Polls.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 01:05 PM (aMNub)

140 I've given up on New Orleans but for purely personal reasons. Finally growing up had a lot to do with it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans



Will you still show us your tits if we throw some beads?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (fuK7c)

141 Fox poll today also shows bigly yuuge lead for Dems.


As I said, in what races? There is no Federal election. So in what races are the Dems leading?

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (lwiT4)

142 'blaming the customers is not completely out of line nor untrue'

What happened to the days of "the customer is always right"?

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (UdKB7)

143
Best to always get on BART with a full bladder, so you can wiz the shite off the seats...

Posted by: Yersinia Pestis at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (UFLLM)

144 Dems answer pollsters so they can signal their virtue.



Don't believe the Polls.

Posted by: garrett at September 23, 2018 01:05 PM (aMNub)

Several people here have reported lying their butts off to pollsters.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (FTXAT)

145 See 129


The poll actually moved 4 points towards GOP.

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (MAstk)

146
The Farce is strong on the Left.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (4o/yn)

147 141. All of them grammie. Ever since even before Kav withdrew and Trump sold us all out on immigration.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (fA1SL)

148 119

I meant the wall st jounal nbc poll.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (VLDAb)

149 'blaming the customers is not completely out of line nor untrue'

What happened to the days of "the customer is always right"?
Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:07 PM (UdKB7)

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notalwaysright.com

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (+F0Wk)

150 I'm conflicted on cities. As a rule, I hate crowded places and generally dislike people (present company excluded, of course) and noise, but I do at least theoretically like the idea of 'neighborhoods'.

But I like pine trees better.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (MVjcR)

151 132. The Rome subway has a stop: Piramide. It's where the Pyramid to welcome Cleopatra still stands.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (wy4/l)

152
Everyone knows this is a Lie.

But the Farce must continue.

As paul ryan says: It's Who We Are.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (4o/yn)

153 Fox is indeed reporting a poll that shows a large generic ballot lead for Dems.

As grammie points out, there is no generic election.

Posted by: blaster at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (DH5wZ)

154 If only there were a trio of folk singers who could sing of the issues, like they did with the Metropolitan Transit Authority, and resolve the problem.

Posted by: Charlie at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (DMUuz)

155 The GOP will gain Senate seats.

The Q is how many?

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 01:09 PM (MAstk)

156
Everyone knows Bruce Jenner is a man.
But we all have to pretend he's not.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:09 PM (4o/yn)

157 But I like pine trees better.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (MVjcR)
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Me too me too me too. And mountains. And lakes.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:09 PM (C1PQi)

158
Everyone knows Russia didn't meddle of interfere in 2016.

But we all have to pretend they did.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (4o/yn)

159 If only there were a trio of folk singers who could sing of the issues, like they did with the Metropolitan Transit Authority, and resolve the problem.
Posted by: Charlie at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (DMUuz)
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Well did you ever return? Oh, you never returned. And your fate is still unlearned.

Poor old Charlie.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (C1PQi)

160 Generic Congressional Ballot:

Democrats 48% (+6)
Republicans 42%

@Harris_X_/@ScottWRasmussen, LV, 9/16-21

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (MAstk)

161 Everyone knows Russia didn't meddle of interfere in 2016.



But we all have to pretend they did.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (4o/yn)

No we don't.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (FTXAT)

162 Good work Grassley you schmuck...

I'm watching Democrat after Democrat come on the TV and say that this is the new standard, that wild, impossible, implausible, unverifiable decades old accusations from a completely unknown and unvetted woman have to now be taken seriously and require an airing before the Judiciary committee.

THEY ARE GOING TO DO THIS TO EVERY NOMINEE GOING FORWARD YOU STUPID FUCKS!!!

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (kT3/m)

163

Everyone knows 3000 people weren't killed by the hurricane in Puerto Rico. But we all need to pretend it's true.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:11 PM (4o/yn)

164 I feel a blue wave coming on. *shart*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 23, 2018 01:11 PM (Tyii7)

165 Posted by: Charlie at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (DMUuz)



I was mesmerized by that song as a kid. "Put the nickel in his lunch bag!"

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 01:11 PM (lwiT4)

166 From what I can tell, "lewks" is a millennial hipster retardification of the word "looks."

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:11 PM (NWiLs)

167 Igno, um, no, not even close. "Gun culture" has nothing to do with any of it. Simple common sense and human nature.


Concealed carry would surely reduce casual violent crime even further. Regulated concealed carry would probably be the version, and there are zero examples of that leading to problems. Quite the opposite.


Even constitutional carry would turn out all right.


It's more than curiously passive voters that are the problem in places like NYC. Mindset.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 01:12 PM (QDnY+)

168 The Rome subway has a stop:


And the reason it has only one stop is that they can't dig three feet without finding ruins and artifacts and then everything has to come to a halt.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 01:12 PM (fuK7c)

169 I thought the same thing, grammie. Even as a little kid I was able to work out that if his wife was able to hand him a sandwich, surely she must have been able to hand him money too.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:12 PM (C1PQi)

170 94 Where else can you get Zimbabwean food at 3 A.M.?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 12:56 PM (IqV8l)

Well, nowhere in Zimbabwe, that's for sure.

Posted by: BJM at September 23, 2018 01:12 PM (O74hG)

171 157 But I like pine trees better.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (MVjcR)
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Me too me too me too. And mountains. And lakes.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:09 PM (C1PQi)
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it was rainy at WA Friday morning and I could really smell the pine scent.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:12 PM (MVjcR)

172 I stopped watching Fox years ago when I learned the network was owned by Saudi princes. Corporate media sux. Alt media is where it's at.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (wy4/l)

173 Test

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (5aX2M)

174 Still no agreement. She won't testify under oath.

https://tinyurl.com/y7rwpe4u

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (MAstk)

175 My Country 'tis of Stupid.

Trump would never see 3% growth, said the Dems. 4% growth was a fantasy, they also said. Their top guy said blue collar jobs weren't coming back.

We have all those things--America seems to want elect Dems for "balance".

America wants the Senate to delay until Ford testifies and don't think they should have a vote until she does.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (ivXxG)

176 it was rainy at WA Friday morning and I could really smell the pine scent.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:12 PM (MVjcR)
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Sigh. You're living my dream.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (C1PQi)

177 I feel a blue wave coming on. *shart*
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at September 23, 2018 01:11 PM (Tyii7)

--------------------------------

Have you been eating Cap'n Crunch with Crunchberries? It's known to have some, ah...... interesting effects....

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (+F0Wk)

178 NBC poll has bad news for Dems.

No blue wave. And MEN are more interested than women?

Hmmmm

https://tinyurl.com/y7rdbsun
Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (MAstk)

Rich, white, upper middle class elitists are relying on young people and minorities to pull them through and it doesn't look like they're interested.
Maybe they like the way things are right now and don't want any part of the bullshit they're being fed?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (NFEMn)

179 Fox poll..

Hillary 2016 voters are more enthusiastic by 9 points over Trump 2016 voters

42% support impeachment vs 39% in June

Conclusion: red wave is coming

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (VLDAb)

180 Generic Congressional Ballot:



Democrats 48% (+6)

Republicans 42%



@Harris_X_/@ScottWRasmussen, LV, 9/16-21

Posted by: HA at September 23, 2018 01:10 PM (MAstk)

Likely voters? registered voters? And what was the polling break down for democrat vs. republican.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (FTXAT)

181 Just saw a FOX news poll
Who do you believe...
Ford - 36pctKavenaugh - 30pctDon't know - 30pct

Take a bow GOP, this might be your most brilliant work.

You fucking assholes.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (kT3/m)

182 135 Everything you just posted is wrong. First, you
don't want to live anywhere near Bourbon Street. The French Quarter has
always just been a tourist trap, everywhere else is for locals. Second,
Mardi Gras parades happen all over the city and every surrounding city.
New Orleans proper is unique in that there really is no good or bad
parts of town, every other street can be either good or bad. AirBnB has
quickly changed the dynamic for the worse though.

I've given up on New Orleans but for purely personal reasons. Finally growing up had a lot to do with it.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:04 PM (rnXGe)

Funny how some friends of mine went to Mardi Gras one year and the New Orleans police told them not to leave the bourbon street area because it was unsafe.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

183 RE: Disneyfication of NYC?

I think NY State should just sell NYC to Disney. Let them run it as an amusement park. They can hire Bloomberg to stand out front in a Mickey Mouse costume and greet people.

Posted by: BJM at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (O74hG)

184 168. yes the entire city is a centro storico.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:15 PM (wy4/l)

185 I think NY State should just sell NYC to Disney. Let them run it as an amusement park. They can hire Bloomberg to stand out front in a Mickey Mouse costume and greet people.
Posted by: BJM at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (O74hG)
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Roger Goodell could put on his clown suit and stand out there with him.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:15 PM (C1PQi)

186 Lewks is looks like kewl is cool, etc. It has been around for a while

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (VLDAb)

187 "Generic" lead of about that historically translates to little change in the House. And even that is not a solid guide, as 2016 reminds us.


It's truly a shameful and horrifying crisis that the Dems do not face certain annihilation in November, given the situation, so there's still room for angst and anger.


I'm guessing the Dems' incredible performance right now is exactly what McKaskill's vote announcement is: a risky stunt to generate a chance of success.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (QDnY+)

188 134 BART is a disaster these days. You can (and some do) get killed on it. It was a lot cleaner in its early days, but is just tired and dirty these days.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 23, 2018 01:01 PM (Sda6L)

There's a blog around somewhere that has daily pictures of things likeused needles crammed into the seats on BART trains and buses.

You know who would know for sure?

*lights zombie signal*
Posted by: hogmartin


BART has definitely gone downhill. Used to be futuristic and spotlessly clean, and crime-free. Now it's run-down, filthy, and sees a lot of crime.

And here's a shocking assessment of why:

The "customers" are substantially to blame.

That;s because about 10% of the "customers" are now homeless bums, and another 0% are professional criminals, and another 10% are thoughtless/rude/angry underclass type, and they commit all sorts of malfeasances.

Yeah, yeah, I could blame the administration, and there is some fault there, but the root of the problem is the people who stick the needles in the seats, who vomit on the floor, who leave their trash, who stab fellow passengers, who rant schizophrenic delusions at top volume, who spit and bleed and exude every bodily fluid everywhere. Maybe better policies could rein these problems in, but it is the general public creating them in the first place.

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (c+2jX)

189 America wants the Senate to delay until Ford testifies and don't think they should have a vote until she does.
Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (ivXxG)

But even this would blow up in their face--if it ever happened, which is why it won't-- because Kavanaugh will seem believable and reasonable and Ford will look like the nut that she is.
Weird, but it's better for the Dems if she doesn't testify.
Kavanaugh has been jumping at the bit to clear his name.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (NFEMn)

190 179. I know every advance of MAGA and Trump must be very disheartening for you, and so you must pin your hopes on whatever tissue of horseshit you're able to find. Sad.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (fA1SL)

191 unny how some friends of mine went to Mardi Gras one year and the New Orleans police told them not to leave the bourbon street area because it was unsafe.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

Same advice given to my wife when she visited last year

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, well-armed dreg of society at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (xJa6I)

192 another 0% are professional criminals
=
another 10% are professional criminals

Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (c+2jX)

193 Not that I believe polls, or Fox to begin with. But generic ballot polling is effectively pointless. It's not as if any of the population centers ever elect Rs, anyway.

It's just a troll poll.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (5aX2M)

194 What race are they polling? That's all I'm asking. There is no national race. There is no federal election.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 23, 2018 01:17 PM (lwiT4)

195 Poll wars have started, they have

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:17 PM (wy4/l)

196 RE polling: from the wayback interwebs, here is Rasmussen's last report before the 2016 election: https://tinyurl.com/j3cme4h

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:18 PM (FTXAT)

197 I spent a weekend in NO. In August. Never fucking again, lol. It was like I was in a steam bath for 48 straight hours. Makes Miami arid by comparison

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:18 PM (VLDAb)

198 Bay Area Reeking Transients?

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:18 PM (NWiLs)

199 'Ford - 36pctKavenaugh - 30pctDon't know - 30pct'

"Don't know" should be 100%. To answer the other two ways would be untruthful.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:19 PM (UdKB7)

200 @103 Funny enough though, the LA subway is pretty good cuz it has almost no customers. The MTA could be onto something.
---------------------

Depends on when you ride it. The LA rail system gets a ridiculous amount of traffic during rush hour. About two and a half years ago, they added fifty percent more stations to one of the lines (the Gold Line), but something went wrong with the additional trains needed to carry the additional traffic (MTA blamed it on a vendor screwup). It took MTA forever to get more trains added to the line. And in the meantime trains were essentially running overloaded to and from the central terminal.

Posted by: junior at September 23, 2018 01:19 PM (bhbXu)

201 I'm voting Generic!

Posted by: Average voter at September 23, 2018 01:19 PM (IqV8l)

202 America wants the Senate to delay until Ford testifies and don't think they should have a vote until she does.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (ivXxG)

America doesn't want that at all. DEMOCRATS want that.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (FTXAT)

203 I was watching South Park this morning, and they had an episode where homeless people had taken over the city, wandering around asking for spare change. Hilarious as usual.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (+F0Wk)

+++

It was different during the Obama Wonder Years when getting employment anywhere was at a premium. Now, however, with jobs, jobs, jobs! it is very annoying seeing the same people (usually young and in healthy shape) still standing on the medians with their cardboard signs. Come on.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (dI3/S)

204 Is no one else concerned about Bandersnatch wanting to see Brian's titties?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (0jtPF)

205 A Weasel internal poll shows 100% Kavenaugh.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (MVjcR)

206 190. palp, your post about the furry vid made me lol yesterday morning when I was in a bad mood. Maybe you could set up a therapy booth like Lucy.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (wy4/l)

207 "Outline" is a great way to get past paywalls. I also use it on sites that are so larded up with graphics that they won't load quickly. I have it as an extension in Chrome.

https://outline.com/

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (HiLJ1)

208 202 America wants the Senate to delay until Ford testifies and don't think they should have a vote until she does.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 01:13 PM (ivXxG)

America doesn't want that at all. DEMOCRATS want that.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (FTXAT)

Plus, Democrats aren't Americans. They're infiltrators, subversives and traitors.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (NWiLs)

209 "Still no agreement. She won't testify under oath.
https://tinyurl.com/y7rwpe4u"

This is a press release from Ford's lawyers. There's no deal. It includes a statement "We are committed to moving forward to an open hearing on Thursday," which is weaselly. If Greassley had agreed they would have said so. Instead they're using the royal we.

My bet is that Greassley has moved on.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (1UZdv)

210 The problem is that it is being observed. When no one is looking,it runs perfectly.

Posted by: Erwin Schrödinger at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (2ubCU)

211 NY the city, and much of the coastal elite, get power because so much American money gets funneled (via DC cartel policy) through their financial centers. Most savers now put their retirement into the magic of mutual funds, where big fees/commissions get siphoned off, as massive (easy) money got pushed into building China and globalism.

Sam Walton started small but in time became an outlet for China goods, with their own power in DC (and NY, via Wall St). So middle America, even as their industrial base was being shipped to China, was having their (you DID build that) remaining income being vacuumed out of local commerce, and put into globalist/foreign investments.

And the 2Big2Fail/Jail banks were made even bigger after TARP, even after they caused the various bubbles (socialized risk, privatized profits). So mutual funds and the massive distant banks sucked most financial power into the control/hands of the coastal elite. Then DC decides which compliant states might get special bailouts or handouts ... Cloward/Piven on another level.

Investing locally becomes difficult, even more difficult when the competition is (enemy of liberty) China, who escapes all laws on slavery, pollution, consumer protection, etc. Buying American or local also is made difficult, not just because of economies of scale and new productivity, (Wal-Mart/Amazon, FAANGs) ... but because DC/NY policy has served the conglomerates in preference to American (liberty, heritage, culture) interests.

The dichotomy between worker and owner class is maybe greatest in NY (city) -- highest foreign born population combined with the globalist (leveraged) money centers. They import the service industry, and stack them up in tall structures. This is not a normal economy, nor an Americana culture.

"America is Being Extracted" decent rant years ago.
youtube.com/watch?v=Rx4MxOUU0Ys

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (Cus5s)

212 "What does "SLAYING LEWKS" mean?
----
I know all about slaying Lewk

Posted by: Ruin Johnson at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (XQvuQ)

213 In 2010 Reps led generic by an average 9.5%, gained the house back

In 2006 Dems led by an average 11.5, gained the house back

Right now dems are leading by 9 on average. Draw your own conclusion on what that means.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (VLDAb)

214 Funny how some friends of mine went to Mardi Gras
one year and the New Orleans police told them not to leave the bourbon
street area because it was unsafe.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

The opposite is true. If they were on foot, then yeah. Before Katrina all the housing projects immediately surrounded the French Quarter. Those were all torn down and everything went Section 8. There is and always has been muggings immediately off Bourbon but what downtown metro cities are safe to walk around at 3am? New Orleans is a lot more than Bourbon Street. There's no other city like it on earth.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (rnXGe)

215 RE polling: from the wayback interwebs, here is Rasmussen's last report before the 2016 election: https://tinyurl.com/j3cme4h
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:18 PM (FTXAT)

Interesting---Hillary had actually increased her lead over the previous week.
I wonder how much was "The Bradley Effect"/ "Shy Tory?"

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (NFEMn)

216 204. I don't judge.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (wy4/l)

217 The media is just a brainwashing tool. They are trying to insure their blue wave happens. That blue wave will not occur because people are noticing they have money in their checking accounts, their employers are adding new employees (unless you are in healthcare) and good things are happening.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (DAdSz)

218
Take a bow GOP, this might be your most brilliant work.

You fucking assholes.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:14 PM (kT3/m)

Kreplach... you really couldn't expect different results when thirty percent of the country identifies as D and backs any horseshit they put out could you?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (FTXAT)

219 They should be up in arms and tossing the bums out of office, but they meekly vote the same crooked scum into office year after year. Until that changes, the NYC subway system will be a disaster.

Conclusion: they must like it that way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (YdaIJ)

220 Generic is +7 for Dems.
Their poll prior to that was +11 for Dems.


In other words... the media is spewing a Poo Wave.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (N1ZXu)

221 'A Weasel internal poll shows 100% Kavenaugh.'

You don't know unless you were there. You can make a pretty good guess though.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (UdKB7)

222 I know every advance of MAGA and Trump must be very disheartening for you, and so you must pin your hopes on whatever tissue of horseshit you're able to find. Sad.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM


Perhaps My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic could be suggested as ameliorative?

Posted by: Broznies — now with SMR infusion at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (DMUuz)

223 when the goal is to "run the transit system" and not "move people efficiently and pleasantly from place to place" any change in operation will never be about improving efficiency and environment. It will always be about HR issues and economizing on equipment and track and station maintenance.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 01:22 PM (mUa7G)

224
Plus, Democrats aren't Americans. They're infiltrators, subversives and traitors.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (NWiLs)
------
And homos and retards.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:23 PM (MVjcR)

225 I tried slaying Luke, it don't go so well

Posted by: Darth Vader at September 23, 2018 01:23 PM (2ubCU)

226 In 2010 Reps led generic by an average 9.5%, gained the house back

In 2006 Dems led by an average 11.5, gained the house back

Right now dems are leading by 9 on average. Draw your own conclusion on what that means.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (VLDAb)

9% ? I thought it was 4 or 6% ?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 23, 2018 01:23 PM (NFEMn)

227 I was relatively impressed by the Washington DC subway. It ran slow at times, random stops occasionally, and bomb threats on a train or station about every other day. But, when it ran well, it was pretty decent.

But, man, London? It SHOULD be a source of national pride. I bragged on it to my friends/family a number of times, because it really is that good.

The comparison is this: in DC, I would check the internet/app to see when the next train was coming to make sure we made it on time without too much of a wait. In London, it didn't matter when the next train was coming. There was always a next train coming within 3-5 minutes. You just show up and it's there.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 01:23 PM (TL2pK)

228 I've never been to London, but wonder how they cleaned up their transportation system, even as they went down the tubes on globalism and became intolerant and PC.


There does seem to be a lot of that banking money sloshing around in the globalist banking system of London.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 01:24 PM (Cus5s)

229 In 2010 Reps led generic by an average 9.5%, gained the house back



In 2006 Dems led by an average 11.5, gained the house back



Right now dems are leading by 9 on average. Draw your own conclusion on what that means.





Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (VLDAb)

It means nothing. It is not 2006 or 2010 and polling has gotten far more inaccurate since then.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:24 PM (FTXAT)

230 I always keep a nutrigrain bar in the glove compartment. When I pass a bum holding a sign at an intersection I'll offer it to him. It's fascinating how many say no thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is monkeying with his signature at September 23, 2018 01:24 PM (PRfdc)

231 Plus, Democrats aren't Americans. They're infiltrators, subversives and traitors.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (NWiLs)
------
And homos and retards.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:23 PM (MVjcR)


You left out "criminals."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:24 PM (YdaIJ)

232 New Orleans is a lot more than Bourbon Street. There's no other city like it on earth.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM


True dat. In very few cities can you continue to surf as a corpse.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 01:25 PM (DMUuz)

233 It's just like the electorate screwing up Hillz' perfect plan for America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 01:25 PM (+y/Ru)

234 @225 I tried slaying Luke, it don't go so well
-----------------

And then you tossed SMR advocate into a pit. How'd *that* work out for you?

Posted by: junior at September 23, 2018 01:26 PM (SspEb)

235 On the bright side, if the (D)s do take the House or Senate (or both), at least Trump will get some legislation to sign.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is monkeying with his signature at September 23, 2018 01:26 PM (PRfdc)

236 222. Ha! Made me snarf my coffee!

* chuckles, absent-mindedly clubs nearest brony-zek *

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:26 PM (fA1SL)

237 197
I spent a weekend in NO. In August. Never fucking again, lol. It was
like I was in a steam bath for 48 straight hours. Makes Miami arid by
comparison

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:18 PM (VLDAb)

Now that part is true. I like to saw we have about 3 weeks of fantastic weather annually but it comes in 45 minute increments throughout the year.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:27 PM (rnXGe)

238 Graffiti, stale urine, piles of feces, litter, and raging BO. I'll pass.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 01:27 PM (r9UYA)

239 198 Bay Area Reeking Transients?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:18 PM (NWiLs)


"BART" --> "SHART"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:27 PM (YdaIJ)

240 It's just like the electorate screwing up Hillz' perfect plan for America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 01:25 PM (+y/Ru)

Obama was very disappointed in us. Don't you feel shamed?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:27 PM (FTXAT)

241
"Outline" is a great way to get past paywalls. I also use it on sites that are so larded up with graphics that they won't load quickly. I have it as an extension in Chrome.

https://outline.com/
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis




The subway article:

http://outline.com/4ZkHpS

Posted by: Average voter at September 23, 2018 01:27 PM (IqV8l)

242 226

Rcp right now is 7.8. It was 9 yesterday but a couple of older polls fell off.

Point is it' a fairly big, consistent Dem lead.

And yes I know, 2016 polling was wrong about Trump. But was right about the house and senate.generic ballot showed GOP win in both.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:28 PM (VLDAb)

243 Agree Tickled, the tube system and train in London are outstanding! I was blown away by the cleanliness and efficiency. Plus it will literally take you everywhere you need to go, we loved it! It literally made me ashamed that public transit in our country is such a shitty mess!

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:28 PM (DAdSz)

244 204
Is no one else concerned about Bandersnatch wanting to see Brian's titties?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM (0jtPF)

Well they are spectacular.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:28 PM (rnXGe)

245 also, the GOP fully funds PP in their latest budget boondoggle.

Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 01:28 PM (r9UYA)

246 The article had a comprehensible explanation for this - it is a negative feedback loop.

When the trains are running once every five minutes, you don't have much incentive to block the doors to get on.

When service deteriorates, and you are afraid that the next train may not be for thirty minutes, you have a lot of incentive to block the doors to get on the train in the station.

More to the point, this is Deep, Deep Blue New York - you know, one of those incredibly rich blue states that subsidize those backward red states.

Why can't they maintain a transit system, with all their wealth and education?

Posted by: The ARC of History at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM (I2/tG)

247 229

How about 2016 when the RCP generic ballot had a GOP win in the house? Or was that Fake News too?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM (VLDAb)

248 Posted by: Moron Robbie is monkeying with his signature at September 23, 2018 01:26 PM (PRfdc)

+--+---

That's the thing... if Ds take the House, I'll guarantee ya that the GOP Senate suddenly won't be killing 75% of all legislation and 99% of major legislation. Suddenly, they'll be letting bills out of committee left and right, miraculously.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM (5aX2M)

249 OT_Thanks everyone who prayed for me this morning. It was difficult but I do feel that the prayers helped.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM (AllCR)

250 Plus, Democrats aren't Americans. They're infiltrators, subversives and traitors.

+1

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 23, 2018 01:30 PM (Tyii7)

251 also, the GOP fully funds PP in their latest budget boondoggle.



Posted by: Under Fire at September 23, 2018 01:28 PM (r9UYA)

That is maddening and we need to replace those Rs that voted for it but it needs to be done in primaries because we all know the Democrats would do far worse.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:30 PM (FTXAT)

252 If only there were a trio of folk singers who could sing of the issues, like they did with the Metropolitan Transit Authority, and resolve the problem.
Posted by: Charlie at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM


Just FYI, The Boston MBTA fare card is ... The CharlieCard

Posted by: Chuck C at September 23, 2018 01:30 PM (YTxkQ)

253 That;s because about 10% of the "customers" are now homeless bums, and another 0% are professional criminals, and another 10% are thoughtless/rude/angry underclass type, and they commit all sorts of malfeasances.

Yeah, yeah, I could blame the administration, and there is some fault there, but the root of the problem is the people who stick the needles in the seats, who vomit on the floor, who leave their trash, who stab fellow passengers, who rant schizophrenic delusions at top volume, who spit and bleed and exude every bodily fluid everywhere. Maybe better policies could rein these problems in, but it is the general public creating them in the first place.
Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (c+2jX)


Ecce Democrats.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:30 PM (YdaIJ)

254 So the problem is the customers. They keep voting for failure.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 01:31 PM (4HMW8)

255 Yeah, yeah, I could blame the administration, and there is some fault there, but the root of the problem is the people who stick the needles in the seats, who vomit on the floor, who leave their trash, who stab fellow passengers, who rant schizophrenic delusions at top volume, who spit and bleed and exude every bodily fluid everywhere. Maybe better policies could rein these problems in, but it is the general public creating them in the first place.
Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (c+2jX)


Is there anything special about BART? This makes it sound like it's just a representative selection of the Bay Area population, just all stuck together in a confined space for a while. Or was that what you're saying?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:31 PM (y87Qq)

256 Is no one else concerned about Bandersnatch wanting to see Brian's titties?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 23, 2018 01:20 PM


The concern would be Bandersnatch not wanting to see titties (which autocucumber changed to kitties).

That would be indicative of his either being off his feed, or his meds.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 01:31 PM (DMUuz)

257 I always try to stay near Penn Station when I visit to avoid subway. Took LIRR out to Flushing Meadows Park for Paul Simon show. Fly in and out of Newark, much easier to get in and out of city.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at September 23, 2018 01:31 PM (pTY38)

258 The last time I was in New Orleans, it was for an event in January.
Never been colder in my entire life.
Having said that, I really love the town.
Me and the missus stayed at the Hotel Dauphine, and it was April.
Had a great time.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at September 23, 2018 01:31 PM (w7KSn)

259 In London, it didn't matter when the next train was coming. There was always a next train coming within 3-5 minutes. You just show up and it's there.

I once just missed a subway train in St. Petersburg, Russia, at rush hour. I cursed, and watched open-mouthed as the next train rolled into the station ninety seconds later.

Posted by: The ARC of History at September 23, 2018 01:32 PM (I2/tG)

260 How about 2016 when the RCP generic ballot had a GOP win in the house? Or was that Fake News too?

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM (VLDAb)

You are fake news and we already held the house in 2016 (der).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:32 PM (FTXAT)

261 "Don't know" should be 100%. To answer the other two ways would be untruthful.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:19 PM (UdKB7)
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Nah. The Poll is who do you believe. Belief isn't proof, and doesn't need proof.

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 01:32 PM (ivXxG)

262
If only there were a trio of folk singers who could sing of the
issues, like they did with the Metropolitan Transit Authority, and
resolve the problem.
=====

Hey, hey, tow 'em away, the Lincoln Park Pirates are we . . .


Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 01:32 PM (MIKMs)

263 IIIRC the DC subway gets a lot of federal subsidies.

Building a subway in an already big city is a challenge. DC had the Army Engineers build it a great depth and great expense.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 01:33 PM (1UZdv)

264 That;s because about 10% of the "customers" are now homeless bums, and another 0% are professional criminals, and another 10% are thoughtless/rude/angry underclass type, and they commit all sorts of malfeasances.

Yeah, yeah, I could blame the administration, and there is some fault there, but the root of the problem is the people who stick the needles in the seats, who vomit on the floor, who leave their trash, who stab fellow passengers, who rant schizophrenic delusions at top volume, who spit and bleed and exude every bodily fluid everywhere. Maybe better policies could rein these problems in, but it is the general public creating them in the first place.
Posted by: zombie at September 23, 2018 01:16 PM (c+2jX)


The problem is a lack of character. I run on steps that go up to a "low-income" apartment complex. There is ALWAYS trash thrown on either side of the steps, even the day after my sons and I cleaned up the trash. Lack of character, coupled with low intelligence, leads to low income, and results in littering as a minor symptom of social pathology.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:33 PM (YdaIJ)

265 178. There is a growing movement of AA male walkaways. To the extent they live in purple districts, they could swing some districts. In 2020 they will be a force.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:33 PM (wy4/l)

266 "Outline" is a great way to get past paywalls. I also use it on sites that are so larded up with graphics that they won't load quickly. I have it as an extension in Chrome.

https://outline.com/
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 23, 2018 01:21 PM (HiLJ1)


Whoa, thank you. Nice.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:34 PM (y87Qq)

267 At a job I once had in Calif. they hired a guy from NYC.
He bought a house down in Orange Co., so his commute each day was quite lengthy. I asked him about it - over 1 1/2 hours each way. He said he used to ride the subway, his brief case placed between his legs, standing in a crowd the entire time. Now he drives his own car, has air-conditioning and listens to the stereo. Heaven, he called it.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 23, 2018 01:34 PM (dI3/S)

268 @218
We shouldn't even be in a state where the media can take polls about who you find more believable, for the record I discount the poll like I discount most polls.

The stupid, incompetent, disorganized dysfunctional retard that alledgedly is the head of the Judiciary has allowed himself, the nominee and we the people to be bullied into giving A COMPLETELY UNKNOWN, UNVETTED, DEMOCRAT OPERATIVE, making vague decades old charges of sexual improprieties on their nominee.

To my knowledge, he has not seen the complete unredacted letter Ford sent to her representative and ChiDi leaked to the press, he has not directly talked to her, apparently no one on the GOP side has, no one on the GOP side has been able to depose her, and on and on.

So now the deposition is going to happen on live TV giving this woman the ability to slander and humiliate their nominee.

They have no Bio on this woman, they have no sworn affidavit, they have nothing.


THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THIS WOMAN IS!!!!

This is beyond fucking stupid.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:34 PM (kT3/m)

269 Just FYI, The Boston MBTA fare card is ... The CharlieCard
Posted by: Chuck C at September 23, 2018 01:30 PM


Hmmmmm ...

* considers changing what minuscule MLB fandom I have over to the Red Sox *

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 01:34 PM (DMUuz)

270 * considers changing what minuscule MLB fandom I have over to the Red Sox *
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 01:34 PM (DMUuz)
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Recommended.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 01:35 PM (C1PQi)

271 264; it is not for lack of character, it is for lack of accountability and responsibility.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:35 PM (DAdSz)

272 I don't know what that article says, but the one I read a few months ago said they actually hired the guy who ran the London lines. He was the one insisting passengers be called customers. No idea if he can fix the mess. Frankly, I doubt it because it's most likely a diversity jobs scam and there's no way he'll be allowed to fire the troublemakers responsible for its decline.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 23, 2018 01:36 PM (4ErVI)

273 @243

Yup! A++++++ for efficiency.

As to how they did it, no idea. But, they have it running like a well-oiled machine for sure.

Also, having multiple lines running in the same direction (until it eventually forks off) is very helpful in keeping things running. I am not waiting for one train. I am waiting for one of two or three or four trains.

Not sure if you ever got around to taking the driverless train, but man, that was a trip. It was just as efficient as the tube, it was kind of wild we were in some sort of remote control train.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 01:36 PM (TL2pK)

274 #ns makes me *almost* miss ice cream guy. Has anyone ever seen them both together? There are some similarities - both are annoying and stupid, both had hashes that changed daily, but ice cream guy was never around on the weekends IIRC.

Posted by: cfo mom at September 23, 2018 01:36 PM (RfzVr)

275 OT_Thanks everyone who prayed for me this morning. It was difficult but I do feel that the prayers helped.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM


If The Horde is with you ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 01:36 PM (DMUuz)

276 Now he drives his own car, has air-conditioning and listens to the stereo. Heaven, he called it.

Sorry, once we truly come to power, you will be forced to take mass transit, and forced to live in a small high-rise apartment next to the transit station.

Cars and single-family housing will be reserved for elected officials and senior government bureaucrats.

Posted by: The Democrats at September 23, 2018 01:37 PM (I2/tG)

277 "THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THIS WOMAN IS!!!!"

She's George Kaplan in North by Northwest. She can't testify, because she doesn't exist.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 01:38 PM (1UZdv)

278 271 264; it is not for lack of character, it is for lack of accountability and responsibility.
Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:35 PM (DAdSz)


Isn't that pretty much a tautology?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:38 PM (YdaIJ)

279 Sorry, once we truly come to power, you will be forced to take mass transit, and forced to live in a small high-rise apartment next to the transit station.

Posted by: The Democrats at September 23, 2018 01:37 PM (I2/tG)


You left out the block captain, who will keep an eye on everyone for counter-revolutionary tendencies.

Cars and single-family housing will be reserved for elected officials and senior government bureaucrats.

Zils and dachas!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:40 PM (YdaIJ)

280 Sorry, once we truly come to power, you will be forced to take mass transit, and forced to live in a small high-rise apartment next to the transit station.

Cars, health-care, and single-family housing will be reserved for elected officials and senior government bureaucrats.

Posted by: The Democrats at September 23, 2018 01:37 PM


FIFY.

Posted by: Democratic Socialists of Amerika at September 23, 2018 01:40 PM (DMUuz)

281 Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 01:38 PM (1UZdv)

I told FenelonSpouse that I wouldn't be surprised if they paid an actress to be here. She might even wear her sun glasses. After all, aside from pictures as a kids nobody knows what she looks like now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (AllCR)

282 260

Lol. That makes no sense. The generic said gop would win the house, gop won the house. You are so bad at spinning, you need to stop.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (VLDAb)

283 To everyone talking about the DC Metro, all you really need to know is this:

There are two reliable sources of information for the DC Metro transit system. One is called ismetroonfire.com

The other is howfuckedismetro.com

Posted by: Some Asshole at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (g8UuS)

284 There's a Hungarian movie 'Kontroll', shot entirely in the Budapest Metro. Really amazing cinematic re-telling of Orpheus/ Divine Comedy.
And funny as hell, too.

https://youtu.be/yCNGwU0sNpM

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (fA1SL)

285 Posted by: The Democrats at September 23, 2018 01:37 PM (I2/tG)

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Sorry, but once we come to power, you will be forced to travel by canal, and you will live in kennels by the canal, and your job will be digging the canal.

Posted by: The Americans at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (5aX2M)

286 "It was a total shit-show, but it gradually got better, and now it is a marvel of efficiency, speed, cleanliness and technology"

Same with Tokyo Metro. I wouldn't go near a London subway, though.

Posted by: SERENITY NOW at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (Jr2Z/)

287 She's George Kaplan in North by Northwest. She can't testify, because she doesn't exist.
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Pretty amazing that a 'professor' does not have a public CV.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (MIKMs)

288 More news from Warren Wilhelm's paradise:
tinyurl.com/y9ugsxh7

Veteran professors at the Manhattan school renowned for training future crime-fighters ran a lawless den of depravity called "the swamp," where they allegedly used and sold drugs, and "pimped" out and sexually preyed on students, according to two women at the center of a widening scandal at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (N1ZXu)

289
She's George Kaplan in North by Northwest. She can't testify, because she doesn't exist.
Posted by: Ignoramus


She has dandruff.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (IqV8l)

290 Mayor Giuliani had those trains clean as a pin and running like a clock right after cleaned out seedy Times Square. It takes a good Italian to straighten people out sometimes.

Posted by: sOME mORON at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (ICWiF)

291 Speaking of New Orleans, whatever happened to Heineken Man?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (DMUuz)

292 Somebody should put a deadline on New York's subways. Obviously.

Posted by: Chuck Grassley at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (HiLJ1)

293 Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:41 PM (VLDAb)

Ow.

Posted by: the chicken at September 23, 2018 01:43 PM (N1ZXu)

294 258. I rate this statement 'True'.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:43 PM (fA1SL)

295 I'm actually glad these ridiculously-skewed polls keep coming out. Dem voters are generally lazy by definition. Whatever encourages them to stay home because the election is in the bag is fine by me.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:43 PM (rnXGe)

296 The subway is the city is the subway

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:43 PM (imDUY)

297 The problem is a lack of character. I run on steps that go up to a "low-income" apartment complex. There is ALWAYS trash thrown on either side of the steps, even the day after my sons and I cleaned up the trash. Lack of character, coupled with low intelligence, leads to low income, and results in littering as a minor symptom of social pathology.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:33 PM (YdaIJ)

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FWIW, I suspect littering and other social offenses would be another one of those things that isn't counted when we hear how law-abiding illegal aliens are.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (n9hQQ)

298 If someone really wants to read this article from this POS 'newspaper', here's an archived version free of charge and no click for them :

http://archive.is/YNoE8

And the problem with NYC is obvious -- The electorate put a f'ing Communist in as mayor then reelected the turd. And the whole city is really run by the unions.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (Z4rgH)

299 I am so thankful I have a vehicle

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (T4oHT)

300 289
She's George Kaplan in North by Northwest. She can't testify, because she doesn't exist.
Posted by: Ignoramus

She has dandruff.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (IqV8l)

And short sleeves.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (NWiLs)

301 It's become popular sport to mislead when pollsters call in our household. I know too many who do the same to believe any polls.

Posted by: Dailydish at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (Z0huu)

302 How about 2016 when the RCP generic ballot had a GOP win in the house? Or was that Fake News too?



Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:29 PM (VLDAb)

You are fake news and we already held the house in 2016 (der).


Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:32 PM (FTXAT)

Not to mention you are ... mistaken... once again. The final RCP polling before the election ( Nov 1 through for generic congressional results in 2016 was +0.6 for the Dems: https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2016_generic_congressional_vote-5279.html

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (FTXAT)

303

Anyone else hearing that song?

I'm your vehicle, baby!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (4o/yn)

304 In other transit news, the Portland light rail system has no turnstiles. Fares are checked occasionally by "fare inspectors" on the trains, and when people get on and off the trains.

Well, a judge just announced that this was illegal - that checking fares is a "dragnet search" prohibited under the Oregon constitution.

So, it is now illegal to check fares - currently, about 12% of people ride without paying, but I assume that will go to 50% in short order.

The Left is celebrating their latest victory over the Forces of Oppression - they seem to think that they can just wave a magic wand and raise transit taxes to compensate for the loss of fare revenues.

Posted by: The ARC of History at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (I2/tG)

305 Clean water. Clean air. Everybody picks up their own trash. That's all I ask.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (dI3/S)

306 New Orleans had ONE chance to get it right. It blew it. That 'God wanted New Orleans to be a CHOCOLATE CITY' thing from Nay Ragin, you know . . .

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (imDUY)

307 She has dandruff.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 01:42 PM (IqV8l)

And short sleeves.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (NWiLs)


Mind like a diamond.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (y87Qq)

308 BART in SF Bay Area is really disgusting, not because of the trains, which are largely new and redesigned, but because they can't seem to get a handle on the crime.

Last time I rode on it, the train was about 25% full, the doors open, in comes a large man, naked except for a moving quilt he was wearing like some kind of robe.

He sits, blows a couple of snot rockets on the floor, says something disgusting to a woman sitting opposite him. Then starts to masturbate.

Me and another guy make a move toward him. He then drops the quilt and goes running in to the next car, then exited the train.

At least the janitors make a quarter mil per year...

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (w7KSn)

309 One thing nyc has that no other system has is Express trains with dedicated express lanes. That was a stroke of genius.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:46 PM (VLDAb)

310

Remember BILLY OCEAN?

Get outta my mind
And get into my car!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:46 PM (4o/yn)

311 http://www.customerssuck.com/board/

https://customerssuck.livejournal.com/profile

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 01:46 PM (rjbMC)

312 @218
And as a shit cherry on the shit sundae...

Apparently Chuck Grassley's "very good friend" and "esteemed collegue" ChiDi had her hit squad dig up some "sexual harrasment" dirt on one of his aides and he's had to resign.

Chuck Grassley is a doddering old fool.

Garbage, they're all garbage.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:46 PM (kT3/m)

313 Speaking of New Orleans, I am so torn, because I have heard so many conflicting things.

I'd like to go there with the boy sometime. I am more of a beach vacation girl, and he is more of a woodsy cabin guy, and one of the only places we could agree on having a passing curiosity about was NO.

It seems (in some places) so quaint and charming and I bet some of the food is amazing.

One of my friends...NO is his favorite city in the entire world, and he would probably go all the time if he could.

On the other hand, I have talked to people who have said it is smelly and gross. Also, I have family in Louisiana, close enough to drive to NO, and they avoid it at all costs.They hate it.

So yeah.....a little bit torn on it.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 01:46 PM (TL2pK)

314 Last time I rode on it, the train was about 25% full, the doors open, in comes a large man, naked except for a moving quilt he was wearing like some kind of robe.

He sits, blows a couple of snot rockets on the floor, says something disgusting to a woman sitting opposite him. Then starts to masturbate.

Me and another guy make a move toward him. He then drops the quilt and goes running in to the next car, then exited the train.


Ya mean I wasn't suppose to do that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 01:46 PM (Ydx5u)

315 howfuckedismetro.com

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Ha. That's tragic and very funny.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 01:47 PM (n9hQQ)

316 Naw Leans can be fun..Bourbon street is for shizzle...Jazz hands and manhandles..U GOTTA BE SEMI HAMMERED or it is a mean machine ...decent restaurants cups to go for those in their cups an adult DIZZY_LAND fer sure...the Monteleone where i resided had a carousel bar and it was not that that made me dizzy,but the roof top pool on a warm moonlight night was fab....the outlying areas have some fine dining and the Zydeco shit is to die for...............

Posted by: saf at September 23, 2018 01:47 PM (5IHGB)

317 NY and NYC have spent a boatload on new transit projects but ignored routine maintenance. Cuomo is a prime offender

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obviously there's more graft to be had in construction

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 23, 2018 01:47 PM (pWK1g)

318 National and generic polls mean fuck nothing when it comes to house races. A district by district analysis yields better results.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:47 PM (wy4/l)

319 278. You are correct my good man

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:47 PM (DAdSz)

320 Some people really get off on being contradictory, don't they? Like their entire self-worth is wrapped up in it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 01:48 PM (oVJmc)

321 In my hands I hold...


A bag of Mackie's of Scotland Haggis and Cracked Black Pepper Potato Chips.


This should be great or indescribably awful. No middle ground.

I shall eat them tomorrow.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 01:48 PM (CRRq9)

322 One of the perks of my job is my Metro Cards are comped and I don't have to pay for the PATH or the NYC subways.

If I had to pay that shit I don't know what I would do.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:48 PM (kT3/m)

323 Nope. Final 2016 generic was Rep. 1.1


https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2016_generic_congressional_vote-5279.html

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:48 PM (uC6iV)

324 @ 313
Speaking of New Orleans, I am so torn, because I have heard so many conflicting things.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I grew up in New Orleans and spent 61 years there until Katrina. I will NEVER go back there.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (imDUY)

325

It would entail some hard work to care less about the travails of New York City residents with their transit system.

Put up with it for that length of time, you earned it.

Wish to live in the real world, come Upstate and leave your attitudes down in the city.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (S/hVx)

326

but Sen Feinsteen has been aiding a Chinese spy for over a decade

Sessions??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (4o/yn)

327 320 Some people really get off on being contradictory, don't they? Like their entire self-worth is wrapped up in it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 01:48 PM (oVJmc)
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Bullshit!

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (HiLJ1)

328 National generic would include people from hard-leftist shitholes like California where anything over 50%+1 is superfluous.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (oVJmc)

329 306 New Orleans had ONE chance to get it right. It blew it. That 'God wanted New Orleans to be a CHOCOLATE CITY' thing from Nay Ragin, you know . . .
Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:45 PM (imDUY)


What would be an example of a well-run "chocolate polity," city, state, country, whatever? One example, please.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (YdaIJ)

330 Oh. Never mind. DOH.
I STAND CORRECTED. Need more cofveve this morning.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (uC6iV)

331 @297
FWIW, I suspect littering and other social offenses would be another one of those things that isn't counted when we hear how law-abiding illegal aliens are.
---------------

*snort*

One morning while riding the Gold Line in Los Angeles, a couple of transit cops boarded the train to check passes and make sure that everyone had paid. That's not particularly unusual. What was unusual this time was that a man who appeared to be of Hispanic descent refused to acknowledge one of the cops, a white male. His partner, a Hispanic female, came up and started talking to the man in Spanish. Then she had him fill out and sign the citation for being on the train without paying. And before she'd even finished turning away, he'd already torn it up.

Nothing happened.

Posted by: junior at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (DMtG+)

332 "One thing nyc has that no other system has is Express trains with dedicated express lanes. That was a stroke of genius."

The "A" train from 59th to 125th. Over three miles without a stop. Trains hit 60mph IIRC

When it works well, including because of the extensive route coverage, you can get around NYC quickly and often faster than in a car.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 01:50 PM (1UZdv)

333
Some people really get off on being contradictory, don't they? Like their entire self-worth is wrapped up in it.

Wrong.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at September 23, 2018 01:50 PM (4o/yn)

334 National generic would include people from hard-leftist shitholes like California where anything over 50%+1 is superfluous.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (oVJmc)


"National Generic" would also be an awesome name for just about any business. I'd rock a National Generic parking pass and some National Generic business cards with my name on them any day.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:51 PM (y87Qq)

335 Everything is a fabrication about what's being said about Kavanaugh and people who support him. Good article (top) on Legal Insurrection

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 01:51 PM (AllCR)

336 291- LOOTIE!

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 01:52 PM (wy4/l)

337 334. White and black, company colors. Arial font on all docs. Signs reading 'Office' on every door.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:52 PM (fA1SL)

338 "National Generic" would also be an awesome name for just about any business. I'd rock a National Generic parking pass and some National Generic business cards with my name on them any day.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:51 PM (y87Qq)


"Acme Industries" would be more in keeping with the times, since the whole country seems to be channeling Wile E. Coyote.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:52 PM (YdaIJ)

339 Sorry, once we truly come to power, you will be
forced to take mass transit, and forced to live in a small high-rise
apartment next to the transit station.



Cars and single-family housing will be reserved for elected officials and senior government bureaucrats.





Posted by: The Democrats at September 23, 2018 01:37 PM (I2/tG)

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that's the plan here in #Failifornia...

whether we want it or not.

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 01:52 PM (rjbMC)

340 Nah. The Poll is who do you believe. Belief isn't proof, and doesn't need proof.
Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 01:32 PM (ivXxG)


The poll should be who do you "support".

Most people know what the definition of "unsubstantiated" but will throw away the well-known principle that some people lie and will themselves lie for FSA.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (1g7ch)

341 that's the plan here in #Failifornia...

whether we want it or not.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 01:52 PM (rjbMC)


That's exactly right. And the Reds don't make any bones about it, either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (YdaIJ)

342 Link-Legal Insurrection

Will Kavanaugh really appear now that all her witnesses deny her story:

https://tinyurl.com/ybzsm7yk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (AllCR)

343 @337 - The font has to be 'Univers'

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (imDUY)

344
MY polling suggests I have a 169% chance of getting lumberjack dyke sex!

Posted by: dr. Fnord out of the woodwoork comes at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (UFLLM)

345 Speaking of unbearable travel...

Singapore Air will start a 19 hour non stop to Newark next month. I can't imagine doing that in coach.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (uC6iV)

346 'The Poll is who do you believe.'

It should not have the option "I don't know" then. That's how they skew it.

Posted by: freaked at September 23, 2018 01:54 PM (UdKB7)

347 What would be an example of a well-run "chocolate polity," city, state, country, whatever? One example, please.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guev

Hershey, PA.
Duh

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 23, 2018 01:54 PM (CE6iV)

348 343. Even better.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:54 PM (fA1SL)

349 White and black, company colors. Arial font on all docs. Signs reading 'Office' on every door.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:52 PM (fA1SL)


Sign outside the headquarters building:
NATIONAL GENERIC
"this space intentionally left blank"

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:54 PM (y87Qq)

350 345 I just flew 10 hrs from Athens, Greece in coach. It was on the cusp of unbearable.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:55 PM (DAdSz)

351 Weasel internal poll now at 104% Kavenaugh.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 01:55 PM (MVjcR)

352 ismetroonfire.com

Boarded a train @ Dupont circle (deepest stop) one time which had stuck a brake shoe. Little curl of smoke and burnt pad smell. You never saw people get out of a car so quick.

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 01:55 PM (FhXTo)

353 What also is the problem is that the vast overwhelming majority of the riders don't fucking speak english.

And the majority of their employees are minorities with all that entails.


They've also removed 90pct of the garbage cans from the platforms and stations so shit piles up.

One of the more surreal experiences you will have is seeing the mass of people, overwhelmingly immigrants streaming down the stairs at Herald Square between the Subway and PATH entrances during rush hour, it's akin to those video's you see of cars navagating the choked and swarming streets and roads of third world India.

Often I have to go out the back stairs and go overland to one of the other PATH entrances to get to the PATH.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 01:55 PM (kT3/m)

354 Zydeco shit is to die for...............
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Old Sesame Street used to play a bit about 'I'm a dog, just a hard-working dog . . .' showing some border collie herding sheep. I still tear up if I hear that Zydeco bit thinking of my borders herding their kids. Rotties and German Sheps are the most efficient making it look easy, but for flashy shows the borders are the best.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (MIKMs)

355 "National Generic" would also be an awesome name for just about any business. I'd rock a National Generic parking pass and some National Generic business cards with my name on them any day.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:51 PM (y87Qq)
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Amalgamated Incorporated is thinking of acquiring National Generic before Integrated Systems makes a pounce.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (kQs4Y)

356 350 345 I just flew 10 hrs from Athens, Greece in coach. It was on the cusp of unbearable.
Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:55 PM (DAdSz)

++++

That sounds unbearable. Three hours, tops, and I am done with the whole business.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (dI3/S)

357 I don't know how to fix the subways in new york, and I dont see the bureaucracy being able to do it.

Thank god the capitalists built the subways before the city took them over and let them atrophy for almost 100 years.

There's a life lesson in that somewhere

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (GBteo)

358 @349
Sign outside the headquarters building:

NATIONAL GENERIC

"this space intentionally left blank"

~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe that's what's called 'The Cherry On Top'

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (imDUY)

359 tickledpink, I've been to New Orleans a few times as an adult and have enjoyed it, but yeah, the most recent trip seemed different. It's changing fast, and what little is left will be gone before too long, too. The city is still fun, though, and you should go at least once. It's a very interesting place, especially if you can look past the surface and see the old stuff that has survived.

And smelly and gross is at least part of the experience.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (n9hQQ)

360 I grew up in New Orleans and spent 61 years there until Katrina. I will NEVER go back there.


Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:49 PM (imDUY)

I somewhat share the sentiment, but also believe it should never change and that everyone should experience it. It's one of the last places on the planet where freedom can truly mean freedom. For the good and the bad.

That and it wouldn't exist if not for pirates. Jean Lafitte and his people.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 23, 2018 01:56 PM (rnXGe)

361 355. Ahh....trying to get out ahead of Very Big Corporation, I see.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 01:57 PM (fA1SL)

362 Singapore Air will start a 19 hour non stop to Newark next month. I can't imagine doing that in coach.
Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (uC6iV)

I would have to be drugged and placed in cryosleep.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 01:57 PM (kQs4Y)

363 I flew LA to Frankfurt, 11ish hours and I was ready to parachute out. And that was in bizness class.

Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:58 PM (uC6iV)

364 The font has to be 'Univers'
Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (imDUY)


Except for the office party invites, which are in purple Comic Sans and Wingdings.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 01:59 PM (y87Qq)

365 DEFINITELY make it to Hershey at some point. And make the drive over to Longwood Gardens while you're in the area. Plan to spend at least three or four days total. Longwood should be an entire day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 01:59 PM (n9hQQ)

366 342 Link-Legal Insurrection

Will Kavanaugh really appear now that all her witnesses deny her story:

https://tinyurl.com/ybzsm7yk
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 23, 2018 01:53 PM (AllCR)


My guess: she'll show up, read a prepared statement, then blub uncontrollably at the first awkward question directed her way.

Fin.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:59 PM (YdaIJ)

367 LA to Taipei. Almost 17 hours. Business class, xanax, and booze, ftw!

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:00 PM (fA1SL)

368 washrivergal I will give the airline some credit. We flew American Airlines. The food was good. Great selection of free movies and was fairly comfortable. The length of the flight coupled with wanting to be back in America in my own home makes it challenging.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (DAdSz)

369 >>>Some people really get off on being contradictory, don't they? Like their entire self-worth is wrapped up in it.<<<

You mad, Bro?

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (Z9C5C)

370 DaveA, thought Rosslyn was deeper stop than Dupont? Looks like it, as I recall.


11 hour flights are standard to Japan, China. Depends on jet stream. No big deal. Just long.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (QDnY+)

371 The problem is a lack of character. I run on steps that go up to a "low-income" apartment complex. There is ALWAYS trash thrown on either side of the steps, even the day after my sons and I cleaned up the trash. Lack of character, coupled with low intelligence, leads to low income, and results in littering as a minor symptom of social pathology.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 01:33 PM

What you and Zombie wrote makes a lot of sense. When I was a kid, there was an interview with a mother in a tough neighborhood (Detroit? NYC?) While she was talking about improving it, boys were in the background, climbing onto young trees planted along the sidewalk and breaking not just the branches but the trunks. NO ONE stopped them. I was baffled. I cannot remember what my parents said about it except that I understood THAT was why the neighborhood was bad.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (/+bwe)

372 367 LA to Taipei. Almost 17 hours. Business class, xanax, and booze, ftw!
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:00 PM (fA1SL)

Boston to Beijing -- over 16 hours. Coach.

It was ... less than enjoyable.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (GBteo)

373
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 01:59 PM (n9hQQ)
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Longwood is great. Winterthur (DuPont) isn't far away either. Kennett Square is a nice little town to stay in.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (MVjcR)

374 @360 I
somewhat share the sentiment, but also believe it should never change
and that everyone should experience it. It's one of the last places on
the planet where freedom can truly mean freedom. For the good and the
bad.

That and it wouldn't exist if not for pirates. Jean Lafitte and his people.

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All true things. There are many things I loved about the city - but they're gone now. If you'd like to see what I mean, take a look at my book now on Amazon about N'Awlins . . . just do a search for 'Living On New Orleans Time'

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (imDUY)

375 A bit off topic.
Mrs D left the tv on a channel where football came on. I quietly observed the first quarter. Score 14-7 with the most yardage provided by the refs.
Another reason no to watch.
I'm off to pull weeds.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (0tfLf)

376 London to Sydney. About 24 hours. Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (YdaIJ)

377 And the shit is only going to get worse for NY as we shovel millions of immigrants per year into our ever expanding population centers, which NY is the largest.

On it's current trajectory, the population of NYC will be over 10 million by 2030 and a subway ride will probably have to cost over 5 bucks a trip.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (kT3/m)

378
Just returned from our troop's first camping trip of the new year -- whitewater rafting on the Lehigh River for nine miles yesterday. Great fun and the first time that we had done it in over a decade. The gap between now and the next time we go won't be anywhere near as long.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (pNxlR)

379 I've gone Atl to Bangkok via a 3 hour layover in Osaka in coach before. 25 hours total, 22 in the air. The only thing that saved me was having 3 seats across to myself for the 15.5 hour Atl. to Osaka leg. Brutal.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (I16G8)

380 372. Lord. I'd have to be hammered out of my mind to even contemplate such a thing.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:03 PM (fA1SL)

381 Nope. Final 2016 generic was Rep. 1.1





https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2016_generic_congressional_vote-5279.html



Posted by: #neverskankles at September 23, 2018 01:48 PM (uC6iV)

That number links to the final results for the election ya dolt.
The final polling data for that election are directly below that number and clearly labeled RCP Average. In fact, if you click on that poll and get all results for all Generic Congressional polling for 2016, you will see that Dems were polling 3 to 7 points up in late September 2016.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 23, 2018 02:03 PM (FTXAT)

382 Pergram quotes Ford lawyer saying they are working with Judiciary staff on Thursday. Still no official word from committee. Odd, really. There's been no committee word since Friday night that I'm aware of.


And yes, still hard to believe Ford will show. She's got a ridiculous, non-credible, implausible story from decades ago, and the only people known who might be "witnesses" have contradicted her tale, in statements subject to perjury hazard.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:03 PM (QDnY+)

383 380 372. Lord. I'd have to be hammered out of my mind to even contemplate such a thing.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:03 PM (fA1SL)

I spent most of the flight wishing I'd upgraded to business class.

But it wasn't horrible, I guess -- just really, really long.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:04 PM (GBteo)

384 Mead lux Lewis: thanks for the tip on outline.com.

It feels wrong, but I expect to get over my qualms.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 02:04 PM (fuK7c)

385 299 I am so thankful I have a vehicle
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 01:44 PM (T4oHT)

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*fistbump*

Posted by: SMH - Future proprietress of Bartertown at September 23, 2018 02:04 PM (Cel0r)

386 Longwood is great. Winterthur (DuPont) isn't far away either. Kennett Square is a nice little town to stay in.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 02:01 PM (MVjcR)

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I usually don't repeat long vacations, but we discovered Longwood by accident and I would make the drive back in a heartbeat just to see it again.

We saw the one associated with Penn State (Dupont?) and Chanticleer, too, but Longwood was the most amazing to me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 02:05 PM (n9hQQ)

387 My worst flight, so far: London to Tokyo. Stuck in cattle class on JAL, in the middle seat, between an Aussie who literally drank a case of beer (I'm not exaggerating; he put down a couple of cans an hour) and a Japanese guy who was determined to get lung cancer before he arrived.

The Aussie was amusing (and caused the JAL stewardesses to giggle every time he asked for another beer), but I smelt like a smoked kipper by the time I got there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:05 PM (YdaIJ)

388 LA to Taipei

I done that in early 1995. Houston-LA-Honolulu-Guam-Taipei (and they lost my luggage). Way back it was Taipei-Pohnpei-Honolulu-LA-Houston. I think those stops in those flyspeck Polynesian islands were refuels so at least we didn't have to leave the 'plane. Lo did it suck.

Posted by: the chicken at September 23, 2018 02:05 PM (N1ZXu)

389 off sock.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 02:05 PM (N1ZXu)

390 383. The upgrade is worth it for long flights. One of the few times where this is true.
Oh, and rail-travel. Always spring for the private sleeper for any trip over about eight hours.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (fA1SL)

391 Noon Cuck Cruise Captain

Posted by: Calm Mentor at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (I16G8)

392 My husband wants to go to Australia. He was born there. His family left when he was 4. That flight from Chicago is around 20 hrs. I lovingly told him NFW honey.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (DAdSz)

393 377 And the shit is only going to get worse for NY as we shovel millions of immigrants per year into our ever expanding population centers, which NY is the largest.

On it's current trajectory, the population of NYC will be over 10 million by 2030 and a subway ride will probably have to cost over 5 bucks a trip.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 02:02 PM (kT3/m)

I think people are getting priced out of NYC. White millennials are gentrifying, well, basically everywhere. As the poet Jimmy McMillan said, "the rent is too damn high!" NJ and CT aren't cheap either.

So the immigrants will probably shift to somewhere cheaper.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (GBteo)

394 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 02:05 PM (n9hQQ)
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Wasn't Longwood was the DuPont family garden?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (MVjcR)

395 DEFINITELY make it to Hershey at some point. And make the drive over to Longwood Gardens while you're in the area. Plan to spend at least three or four days total. Longwood should be an entire day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google


Don't forget a side trip to Brandywine River Museum in Chadds Ford for the Wyeth stuff. If you don't walk out of their with at least a 'print' then you're a h8er.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (LOgQ4)

396 My husband wants to go to Australia. He was born there. His family left when he was 4.
Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (DAdSz)


Tell him to mind the irukandji.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 02:07 PM (y87Qq)

397 I have not had a problem with the NYC mass transit system in 25 30 years...of course I have not used the NYC mass transit system in 25 30 years. Works for me.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:07 PM (Ydx5u)

398 well, SMH's vehicle is a tank, so . . .

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 02:07 PM (N1ZXu)

399 And yes, still hard to believe Ford will show. She's got a ridiculous, non-credible, implausible story from decades ago, and the only people known who might be "witnesses" have contradicted her tale, in statements subject to perjury hazard.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 23, 2018 02:03 PM (QDnY+)


See my #366 above. That's how she can get around it, showing up without running the risk of perjury.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:08 PM (YdaIJ)

400 I hope PDT tells the Senate Judiciary Committe to grow a pair ASAP

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 23, 2018 02:09 PM (Ydx5u)

401 @359

Thanks for your thoughts!

I love old buildings/houses, so I guess the history of it all is what intrigues me. Staying in some 200 year old bungalow or something. Cobblestone streets. The architecture.

I also like food so there's that too.

I would like to go to some of the nearby plantations as well.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 02:09 PM (TL2pK)

402 Nood on the Promenade deck. Nood on the Promenade deck.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, GECSPLAN, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at September 23, 2018 02:09 PM (fA1SL)

403 Wasn't Longwood was the DuPont family garden?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (MVjcR)

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Dangit, now I'll have to cheat and look it up. I think you're right, though. The Penn State one was another wealthy family name I recognized, maybe.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (n9hQQ)

404 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google

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Will Google also let you SuperSize them? And what about extra ketchup?

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (imDUY)

405 I just flew 10 hrs from Athens, Greece in coach. It was on the cusp of unbearable.

Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 01:55 PM (DAdSz)

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and your arms are killing you, right?

Posted by: redc1c4 at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (rjbMC)

406 396 My husband wants to go to Australia. He was born there. His family left when he was 4.
Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (DAdSz)


It's worthwhile, and lovely. Between the scenery, the climate, and the eucalyptus trees, it reminds me a great deal of California, except the ocean is on the wrong side (!). People are nice, and friendly, and well-disposed toward Americans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:10 PM (YdaIJ)

407 @401 - I love old buildings/houses, so I guess the history of it all is what
intrigues me. Staying in some 200 year old bungalow or something.
Cobblestone streets. The architecture.

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Everything's there except the cobblestone streets. Those went years ago. You might find a block or two still extant in older parts of the Business District, but if you go there, be careful - and go during the day.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (imDUY)

408 Ah ha.

Morris Arboretum (no clear relation to tobacco that I see) is the Penn State one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Google Takeout will let you download all your docs on Google at September 23, 2018 02:13 PM (n9hQQ)

409 " Odd, really. There's been no committee word since Friday night that I'm aware of. "

Go with my theory. The deadline passed on Saturday, and Grassley's offer expired. He's done haggling. Everything since has been misleading statements from Ford's lawyers "we're committed" "she's agreed."

SO Grassley show up tomorrow and acts on the first thing on the agenda.

Ford's lawyers will put a self-serving statement to shit on Kave and the all male R committee members.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (1UZdv)

410 403 It was one of them. There's also Winthertur and Nemours.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 02:17 PM (wy4/l)

411 Ford's lawyers will put a self-serving statement to shit on Kave and the all male R committee members.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 02:14 PM (1UZdv)


That's a given. The only question is WHEN they'll put out such a statement.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:17 PM (YdaIJ)

412 392 My husband wants to go to Australia. He was born there. His family left when he was 4. That flight from Chicago is around 20 hrs. I lovingly told him NFW honey.
Posted by: Cheribebe at September 23, 2018 02:06 PM (DAdSz)
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Maybe if you did it in increments? Stopover in Hawaii, rest a few days, then onward?

I will add that Hawaii seems like it's close to the Far East (((g-o-o-on-n-ng))) but it still takes forever to get to Japan, Korea, and China. I have had some hellacious flights in my career.

I would welcome the sweet oblivion of the chloroform-soaked handkerchief if it meant I was out for the duration.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 02:17 PM (kQs4Y)

413 Sen Booker: Judge Kav, are you aware of the song "Breaking The Law" by one Judas Priest? A song that says repetedly in the refrain "Breaking the Law, Breaking the Law, Breaking the Law, yeah."

Kav: yes, I am aware of the song.

Booker: Are you also aware of the song "Smokin' in the Boys room" sung by one Motley Crue, in which they claim to smoke in the boys room, despite everybody knowing that smoking isn't allowed in school?

Kav: yes, I have heard the song in question.

Booker: So, this committee is to believe that someone who listened to music that promoted a disregard for the law, laws which, by the way, prohibit violence against women and racial genocide? How do we know this man who sits before me did not brutally rape a 17 year old girl over hours in his friends home, then murder her and bury her body in a shallow grave in rural Cumberland county as ms Blakey will possibly alledge when she testifies? How can this same man show appropriate jurisprudence? How can we be sure that she wasn't your only victim? How do we know your wife isn't just another victim or that you don't victimize your daughters nightly? I'm sorry, Therese are serious allegations, and there are too many questions about your violent past that we can never know.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 02:18 PM (dNzKv)

414 She ( Ford) could blame her whole life of debauchery on this supposed event.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (T4oHT)

415 Booker: Are you also aware of the song "Smokin' in the Boys room" sung by one Motley Crue, in which they claim to smoke in the boys room, despite everybody knowing that smoking isn't allowed in school?
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Brownsville Station

Posted by: Axeman at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (ivXxG)

416 414 She ( Ford) could blame her whole life of debauchery on this supposed event.
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 02:21 PM (T4oHT)


Book it. You KNOW every naff thing she's done since she'll lay off on this supposed event.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with an added spark of divinity at September 23, 2018 02:23 PM (YdaIJ)

417 Crue sung it too, and it is more appropriate for the time period. Just look at Kav, you know he listened to Crue as a 17 year old.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 23, 2018 02:23 PM (dNzKv)

418 @407

Aw boo hiss.

Well as long as I can find cobblestone/brick/slate/etc walkways off some sort, I will be happy.

Posted by: TickledPink at September 23, 2018 02:25 PM (TL2pK)

419 My client demands the additional criteria for her appearance at the Senate Hearing.

- All Senators must sign a statement that they believe Professor Ford.
- All Senators must sign a statement that they waive the right to imply in public that anything is suspect in my client's statement.

Posted by: Debra Batz at September 23, 2018 02:27 PM (ivXxG)

420 Everything's there except the cobblestone streets.

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 02:12 PM (imDUY)
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What about Gambrel roofs and gibbous moons?

Posted by: HPL at September 23, 2018 02:30 PM (ivXxG)

421 I went to NO in August. It was interesting. But it did seem like everyone wanted money from me. I'd just been laid off and didn't have a lot to spend. I rode the streetcars a lot. It's a different town diring the day.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 23, 2018 02:32 PM (Lqy/e)

422
59
A little know fact: 1/27th of all NYC subway trains are actually one way trips to the people cracker factory. Social isolates, illegals, dropouts, deplorables and others unlikely to be missed are routed via selective ticketing onto the 'kibble kars' and offloaded into the nutrient vats where they become additives for Malt 40's, Menthol Kools, Twinkies filling, and other EBT SNAP Card best sellers...
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 12:45 PM (UFLLM)


Hmmmmm. Flesh it out with a cast of characters, some edgy dialogue and sexual activities and then let's shop it to Whorrywood.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 23, 2018 02:36 PM (pNxlR)

423 Twitchy.
@Shannon Bream
Ford's attys say they've committed to Thursday, 10a, hearing. Despite threats to her safety and life, it's important Senators hear from her about the sexual assault committed against her.

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But has Grassley agreed?

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 23, 2018 02:40 PM (Dhht7)

424 After a subway user had a heart attack and died climbing up the non-functioning escalator stairs in a DC metro station, DC metro got serious about replacing the broken escalators. Many of the metro stations had the escalators exposed to the weather, and that had to be fixed too.

Anyway, while all of the escalator woes were happening, one metro official said that part of the problem was that metro riders insisted on climbing up and down the moving escalators, rather than just standing there. Because walking on the escalator puts extra stress on it. Or something. His comment was not well-received by the populace.

Posted by: biancaneve at September 23, 2018 02:51 PM (A/iod)

425 "Hershey, PA"

PA, where you can go from Blue Ball through Intercourse to Paradise in less than 20 minutes.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 03:01 PM (DMUuz)

426 @ 420 . . . ---

What about Gambrel roofs and gibbous moons?

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Only on even-numbered days in the off season

Posted by: Dr_No at September 23, 2018 03:48 PM (imDUY)

427 15 Never say bullet on a New York train.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at September 23, 2018 05:49 PM (G/6B6)

428 However, the subways are festooned with NYC government approved advertising on the joys of ghey sex, tranny shows on Broadway, HIV medication, anti "bias" hotlines, crappy poetry about "Diversity" and warning about the evils of "sugary drinks."

So a resounding Democrat-controlled success.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at September 23, 2018 06:24 PM (j4US8)

429 The big problem we're seeing with subways these days is a problem with the streets, parks, and libraries as well -- all these facilities are being so taken over by bums that their intended users are being driven away. AND misguided people such as the ACLU succeed again and again in preventing the responsible agencies from making the bums go away.
I can think of only two possible fixes. And the one that doesn't involve a whole lot of people getting injured in fights is to privatize the facilities. I'd like to join or start a campaign to promote this solution nationwide.

Posted by: jdgalt at September 23, 2018 06:27 PM (3SFo/)

430 Even the communists could keep the Moscow subway running efficiently. It takes a special kind of idiot to make DC and NYC subways so awful.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at September 23, 2018 07:31 PM (2BPRE)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-23-2018

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Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, and you have to wonder if they were designed by someone who was colorblind.

Pic Note

I remembered I had this photo on my hard drive after I read this comment in last week's book thread:

244 Looking at the looting picture on Drudge (they don't seem too worried about getting arrested, do they?) and wondering why no one ever seems to loot libraries.

Posted by: pookysgirl at September 16, 2018 11:09 AM (XKZwp)

The photo, which you can click on to see a larger version of, is entitled 'London Bookstore After Air Raid, Oct., 1940'. Of course, the boy is not looting the bookstore, he's just getting caught up on his reading. When he was finished, I have no doubt he put the book back where he found it and simply walked away. The British back then were very honest. I remember reading some years ago that during WWII, the Germans tried to ruin Britain's economy by flooding the country with counterfeit £5 notes, but it didn't work. And one of the reasons was because the people saw all of this money lying around on the street so they picked it up and turned it in to the authorities.



It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

DOWNDRINS is an old English dialect word for an afternoon drinking session.

Usage: "Next up here on CNN, we're be hearing a report about Trump getting peed on by Russian prostitutes by Bob Downdrins. He'll also be reporting on the all of the cannibalism that broke out in South Carolina in the wake of Hurricane Florence, and what kind of BBQ sauce they used. Remember, we're not fake news, we're CNN."

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/book lovers - life 1910.jpg

Life Magazine Cover, June 22, 1910

Alt. title: "Jack the Ripper Sizes Up His Next Victim"

(h/t Ephemeral Elegance)


3 or 6

Mrs. Muse and I are enjoying watching episodes of the TV series Condor (originally broadcast on the AT&T Audience Network), whose main character is a CIA analyst forced to flee for his life after everyone else in his unit is killed and he is blamed for it. The credits say it is based on both the 1975 Sydney Pollack film Three Days of the Condor, and also, this being the book thread and all, the spy novel Six Days of the Condor by James Grady:

Sandwiches are a part of Ronald Malcolm’s every day, but one just saved his life. On the day that gunmen pay a visit to the American Literary Historical Society, he’s out at lunch. The society is actually a backwater of the Central Intelligence Agency, where Malcolm and a few other bookworms comb mystery novels for clues that might unlock real life diplomatic questions. One of his colleagues has learned something he wasn’t meant to know. A sinister conspiracy has penetrated the CIA, and the gunmen are its representatives. They massacre the office, and only learn later of Malcolm—a loose end that needs to be dealt with.

Malcolm—codename Condor—calls his handlers at the agency, hoping for a safe haven, instead drawing another attempt on his life. With no one left to trust he goes on the run. But like it or not, Malcolm is the only person who can root out the corruption at the highest levels of the CIA.

The plot has been updated for the 21st century, involving Muslim terrorists somehow acquiring a sophisticated bioweapon, and whose initial attack was thwarted by an algorithm, authored by the main character, that found a previously hidden terrorist who hadn't been on anybody's radar.

The Kindle edition of Six Days of the Condor is available for $8.99. Grady has also written a sequel(?), or maybe just another spy novel in the same universe, only post 9/11,Last Days of the Condor. The blurb doesn't give a good indication of anything other than it's a spy novel, but what caught me eye was the last sentence:

At the Publisher's request, this title is being sold without Digital Rights Management Software (DRM) applied.

Hmmm... I wonder what the story behind that is?


Moron Recommendation

87 Thanks to a recommendation here several weeks ago, I read the very interesting, eye-opening book Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice by Sidney Powell.

Ms. Powell is a brilliant lawyer, an imposing 6' tall, and a ginger. She has written a detailed account of the prosecutorial misconduct in the cases against Sen. Ted Stevens, the Enron case, and its associated cases versus the accounting firm of Arthur Anderson and the brokerage firm of Merrill Lynch. She played a minor role in the Anderson case, but she was the lead appeals lawyer for one of the Merrill defendants, Jim Brown.

She details how prosecutors hid evidence from the defense, suborned perjury from witnesses by threatening them with indictments, and repeatedly lied to the court. The Anderson case eventually went to the Supreme Court where all the convictions were overturned. Of course this was too late for the 85,000 good people who lost their jobs when the firm closed its doors years prior.

After everything was over, and most of the convictions in these cases were overturned, Ms. Powell and her fellow defense attorneys filed ethics charges with the proper boards in Texas, New York and D. C.

Despite the overwhelming evidence, all the charges were dismissed out of hand. Most of these prosecutors had risen to positions of power including White House counsel. The head of the Enron Task Force, Andrew Weissmann is currently the "bulldog" for Robert Mueller. The system is rotten to its core.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 16, 2018 09:41 AM (83Kfl)

Yeah, that sounds pretty depressing. I'm not going to bother quoting the Amazon blurb because it doesn't add anything to Zoltan's excellent review. Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice is available on Kindle for $8.49, not too bad of a price.

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119 SPELLMONGER

I am really enjoying this book, it's like two books in one, he is a SPELLMONGER in a backwoods village living the quiet life because he was sick of being a War Mage and then the Goblins came to his village. The book does go back and talk about his past and the war he fought.

I haven't seen any SJW crap in the book or series. You don't have the super strong female warriors. I can understand having Female mages. My neighbor was a Grandmaster of fighting and would have his students every Friday fight outside in their full armor and fight it was always fun to watch and their is no way a woman could last hefting those swords hammers shields. I was 20 playing college football and those damn swords were heavy as hell.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at September 16, 2018 09:57 AM (dKiJG)

Spellmonger is the first in a 10-book series by Terry Mancour. You can pick this one up on Kindle for $3.99. The others cost more.

My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through? I guess the answer is yes, otherwise you wouldn't see so many of them published. Me, I don't care how good it is, I just get tired of them after about the 3rd book or so and want to move on to something else. After all, there's only so much character development an author can do. And after awhile, you know the author has just got to be just phoning it in. Like John Norman's Gor series, after about 40 or 50 of them you start seeing titles like "Kinksters of Gor" and "Sleazy BDSM Practitioners of Gor" and you think, yeah, that cow has been milked pretty dry.

However, years ago, I did make it through all 8 volumes of John Jakes' Kent Family Chronicles. But the saving grace of that series was the progression of times. Existing characters aged, grew old, and died, and new characters were added to replace them, so things didn't get stale. Plus, America was developing and growing up and you could see it through the eyes of the characters, so there was always something new.


Books By Morons

Lurkette author 'artemis' has published her latest mystery, Murder in Spite, the 8th in her 'Doyle and Acton' murder series:

This holiday trip to Dublin had been very hard on Doyle’s husband -- although he was making a monumental effort to disguise this fact -- and unless she very much missed her guess, it was all somehow connected to the grisly murder on the station-house steps. That, and an African cab-driver who wore a jaunty tam o’shanter.

The Kindle price is $4.99.

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A lurking moron e-mailed me about the novels of Aaron-Michael Hall (which is actually the nom de plume of his wife). The first book in her Kurintor duology is Kurintor Nyusi:

As the gods battle in the heavens, darkness descends on earth.

The Keepers of Nine guide the primordial Kurintor warriors protecting the mortal world from the demons of Ashemohn. But after a god’s corruption empowered their demon goddess, Sokka, her manipulations have brought the Kurintor to the brink of extinction.

Can the Keepers of Nine awaken the Kurintor descendants in time to defend the Fifth Kingdom, or will the eidolons Sokka has sent forth destroy them?

She calls it "epic fantasy with an edge." The $3.95 Kindle price is pretty good. More information about her epic fantasy novels is available on her web page.

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If you like, you can follow me on Twitter, where I make the occasional snarky comment.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Hey guys, I have a favour to ask...

My book House of War got a fake review: amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RI9FBKX7NDZ7C/

It is clear this 'Larry Dickman' putz did not read this book: it is not a "collection", there are no "rants" in it, and it mentions nothing of the secular sins he adduces to it. He is in short reviewing ME, not the book. And THAT is abuse of Amazon's review system.

I already reported this abuse but Amazon has done nothing. Some might say Amazon is run by snooty white Leftists like Larry The Schmuck but a possibility remains that they simply thought my smooshing that button was self-interested. Well... yeah, because my book was slandered. So I request of you, good readers, who trust Amazon's reviews, to report that review as well.

Also if you have read House of War, I hope you can find the time to post your (honest!) opinion of that book (and not of me, we're agreed I fail as a human) on Amazon's site.

Mange tak for at hjælpe, as the late Dr Crone would say.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:00 AM (N1ZXu)

2
Also if you have read House of War, I hope you can find the time to post your (honest!) opinion of that book (and not of me, we're agreed I fail as a human) on Amazon's site.

Mange tak for at hjælpe, as the late Dr Crone would say.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:00 AM (N1ZXu)

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Always review the work off moron authors.

It helps a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, pre-order The Battle of Lake Erie today! at September 23, 2018 09:01 AM (Jj43a)

3 Currently doing a re-read of The Belgariad series by David Eddings. NION Amazon finally has the Kindle edition available in the US. But the followup book is not available for the Kindle in the US.


Also, David Weber has a new Honor Harrington book out continuing the story line of the corrupt Solarian League. The Kindle book is $9.99 which is not too bad. Its under by $10 limit for a single Kindle book. As soon as I finish the current series I will start on those, maybe the first two or three then moving to the last one about the Solarian League.




Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

4 Tolle Lege
Halfway through Patrick O'Brien The Commadore.
And brought show and tell, this short video will give you perspective of the size of a frigate such as the HMS Surprise.

https://youtu.be/QoOd1w0NjWI

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 09:03 AM (T4oHT)

5 BTH, that's Professor Larry Dickman!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 09:05 AM (kQs4Y)

6 God Morgen horde

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 23, 2018 09:05 AM (EZebt)

7 I got nothin' this week. All I did was read trash and watch bad sci fi movies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 09:06 AM (kQs4Y)

8 Hiya

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 09:07 AM (mBbsP)

9 My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the
way through? I guess the answer is yes, otherwise you wouldn't see so
many of them published. Me, I don't care how good it is, I just get
tired of them after about the 3rd book or so and want to move on to
something else.



Its not so bad when they first come out because there is usually a year or two between books. But if you are going back to re-read them after you have them all it does get old after about three books. When that happens I just go to another book series and then come back later.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:07 AM (mpXpK)

10 I think fake or at least hateful reviews, and suspect by Leftists if it's political are common sorry to say.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 09:07 AM (T4oHT)

11 T'hobo, what sort of language would the late Dr. Crone speak were not not late and should he regain the ability of speech?

That's not Kraut or Canals, but has a whiff of the filthy Scandi about it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:08 AM (fuK7c)

12 3
Currently doing a re-read of The Belgariad series by David Eddings. NION
Amazon finally has the Kindle edition available in the US. But the
followup book is not available for the Kindle in the US.


Let me rephrase that. They do have the whole series, but not the followup series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:09 AM (mpXpK)

13 Read "One Blood" by Sabrina Chase, book 2 of her Argonauts of Space trilogy. Book 1 was hard to put down, and so much happened in book 2 it was near impossible to put down.

In her book there's a ships cat. A space ship cat named Messier Object #102 whose behavior (normal cat behavior) confuses the ships AI brain and truly aggravates the kinda-sorta "aliens" who are also onboard (it won't obey them).

Some head music.

Ciwana Black - Industrial Dance
https://youtu.be/RtGKpgFCc1I

The Soundcarriers - Let It Ride
https://youtu.be/XIzBMzPzx-Q

Savages - You're My Chocolate
https://youtu.be/vwwkjI65Q0A

Dave Brubeck - Take Five
https://youtu.be/vmDDOFXSgAs

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at September 23, 2018 09:09 AM (5jAa5)

14 "were he not late"...so much for my ability to speak the King's.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:10 AM (fuK7c)

15 Mange tak for at hjælpe, as the late Dr Crone would say.

Did somebody cut his tongue out ?

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 09:11 AM (mBbsP)

16 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:00 AM

Done.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at September 23, 2018 09:11 AM (2NqXo)

17 4 cont
http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/915789/Rates
This was the other link I thought was very informative kinship rate sizes which to compare to the frigate video

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 09:11 AM (T4oHT)

18 I read The Russian Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hilliary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump by Gregg Jarrett. Jarrett does an excellent job of telling the detailed, step-by-step story of how they let Clinton slide while trying to do a bloodless coup on Trump. I knew almost all of the information before reading this book, but it was very helpful to read it all in such an organized manner. An excellent book.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 23, 2018 09:12 AM (IWXAZ)

19 The Life mag cover looks like Princess Diana.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 09:12 AM (mBbsP)

20 "Next up here on CNN, we're be hearing a report about Trump getting peed on by Russian prostitutes by Bob Downdrins. He'll also be reporting on the all of the cannibalism that broke out in South Carolina in the wake of Hurricane Florence, and what kind of BBQ sauce they used. Remember, we're not fake news, we're CNN."

Also, I'll be reporting on the situation in Texas with their mohels and their bris kits.

Posted by: Bob Downdrins at September 23, 2018 09:12 AM (DMUuz)

21 Hic...
They got a name for mornin drinkin?

Posted by: Otis at September 23, 2018 09:13 AM (24tKv)

22 The Lurker - a limerick


That mustachioed bowler hat guy
Known for copping his feels on the sly
If you'll notice his bearing
You'll see he's preparing
To sneak up and grope Princess Di



You can find more limericks like this one, (only funny) at A Limerick A Day at the link in my nick

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 09:13 AM (m45I2)

23 I thought the kid in the bookstore was a young Burgess Meredith.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 09:14 AM (mBbsP)

24 Greetings, all! I'm back from oppressively hot Alabama into the cool, relaxing fall air of Michigan.

While traveling I finally finished A Distant Mirror and don't have much to add from my previous observations. Overall, it's pretty interesting but you could cut out maybe 10 percent of its length by excising Barbara Tuchman's inane editorializing. She's clearly anti-clerical, and is of the now-dated "if women only had a decent shot they'd should they are just as good as men" school of thought.

In short, she's just as much a creature of her time and place as the people she looks down on in her book.

Regarding David Eddings, I spent many hours reading through the amiable but generally unremarkable book series' he cranked out. Good time-wasters, but not much else. Not sure I'd go ahead and re-read them, but your mileage may vary.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)

25 Doesn't the cartoon Brit lady look like Princess Diana?

Posted by: CN at September 23, 2018 09:14 AM (r97UP)

26 The Life mag cover looks like Princess Diana.


The guy behind Di looks sinister. He's not even starting at her but, he's just leering over as if he's on a mission from the supervillain.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:15 AM (fuK7c)

27 Morning readers!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 09:15 AM (MVjcR)

28 "staring at her butt"...I may have to punish my fingers today, they're not at all typing with my brain is saying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:16 AM (fuK7c)

29 I don't think the guy in the picture is even looking at the woman - he seems to be glaring at the artist, who probably caught him looking at a naughty book.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:18 AM (cfSRQ)

30 Halfway through Patrick O'Brien The Commadore.
And brought show and tell, this short video will give you perspective of the size of a frigate such as the HMS Surprise.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 09:03 AM


Wooden ships and iron men, indeed. That is amazing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 23, 2018 09:20 AM (NDcnw)

31 The guy behind Di looks sinister.

Its the needledick mustache.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 09:20 AM (mBbsP)

32 Good morning.

Currently reading "Lethal in Old Lace," a murder mystery by Duffy Brown. It's the latest in a series known as the Consignment Shop mysteries, set in Savannah. Definitely falls into the cozy category.

It's fun and well written, but I have to agree with OM's comments on series. Part of me is thinking "Get the two main characters married off and bring this story to an end already!"

Posted by: Dr Alice at September 23, 2018 09:20 AM (LaT54)

33 Morning readers!

Posted by: Weasel


hiya Weasel !

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 09:21 AM (mBbsP)

34 just reading junk books lately. The Mark Stone Coastal Justice Book 7 was OK. A little to stretched on plot.

Forgotten Coast Dawn Lee Mckenna has a new book out book 10. In the cue!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 09:22 AM (wU/T1)

35 Looks like Maddow made a mess of somebody's library.

Posted by: Burger Chef at September 23, 2018 09:22 AM (RuIsu)

36 It's not books, but is writing; (is this where you use a semi-colon? I never did figure that out in school) what is up with Cass Sunstein? His last couple articles linked by Instapundit have all been about the need for truly free speech as well as intellectual and political diversity.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (uquGJ)

37 I have a fair amount of bookish content this week, so I'll begin to unfurl it.

I finished "The Wind in the Willows". Utterly charming. I had mentioned before how Grandmama hat attempted to foist it on me in my youth. I'm wondering now if she ever read it or if it were meant for children in the first place.

Now I have a question which intrigues me enough that I saved it up to ask the Book Thread instead of resorting to easy answers on the intertubes:

We first meet a mole whitewashing his burrow. Then we meet a succession of critters living above and below ground, all in the manner of the folk of the English countryside. They all have larders and enjoy good meals, and in their displays of personality the represent or mock different expressions of countrified Britons.

In short, they are Hobbits.

Do we know, has anyone speculated, whether Tolkien were inspired by or borrowed from Wind in the Willow?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (fuK7c)

38 Good morning to aficionados of the well crafted printed word.

Among my reading this week I came across some interesting passages by Orlando Figes's chronicles of the Rooski Revolution, A People's Tragedy. It's still in background material but this is an interesting, at least to me, part where the severe censorship under the Tsars, maintained by the first secret police, kept the radicals pretty well isolated. An result of this was that radical political thoughts, all of which were imported from Europe, just fermented by themselves with no counterbalancing input by which to moderate things. As a result the early commies were all particularly doctrinaire dickweeds as flexible as crowbars when it came to any deviation from their shithook policies and didn't give a flying fuck how many people suffered. Figes uses Isaiah Berlin as a source of this insight and I was wondering if any Morons or 'Ettes had read anything by him dealing with this or if he should be a future Moron book group choice. I've long thought, rightly or otherwise, that his work was as dry as Rodham's cooter but maybe that's an error on my part.

Figes also points out how Rooski literature, even the classics, was always more political in nature strictly by taking place in a repressive country in which you couldn't help noticing that the social setting sucked maximum cock. That sent the radicals to writing about it in highly politicized journals, similar to the fuckheads in wacademia here. It also gave rise to some absolutely wretched dogshit fiction, with Chernyshevsky's What Is To Be Done singled out as a particularly rancid turd which the censors fucked up by allowing to be published.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 23, 2018 09:25 AM (y7DUB)

39 So Ford has named 5 witnesses of the event
4 denied under penalty
1 will not talk and denies all knowledge

curiousor and curiousor

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 09:25 AM (wU/T1)

40 *I've got noting, just gonna sit here quietly, with me jug of coffee, listen to what smart people are saying...

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:25 AM (9lCXX)

41 36: probably senses a crackdown against loons like himself and that bitch wife

Posted by: CN at September 23, 2018 09:26 AM (r97UP)

42 39: Probably know she's a pathological, liar

Posted by: CN at September 23, 2018 09:27 AM (r97UP)

43 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:00 AM (N1ZXu)

Good luck, BTH.

I've had four people over the last year tell me they wrote positive reviews (4-5 stars) after reading "Wearing the Cat", which were never published by Amazon.

I think there's some shadow banning going on there.

The only review apparently permitted is a 2 star by numbskull who said she couldn't understand what she was reading.

So....yeah.

Anyway, working on the next novel. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 09:27 AM (CRRq9)

44 Greg Jarrett is doing the speaker series on 1210am Philadelphia not sure when or if just passed.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 09:28 AM (T4oHT)

45 > My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through?

Most of them start dragging after a while -- it becomes clear that the author is just cranking them out for a paycheck.

One exception is the Aubrey-Maturin series by Patrick O'Brian. I've reread all 20 (and the partial 21st) multiple times, and always find something new in there.

Recommended if you like stories of the Napoleonic Wars, sea stories, the British Regency period, or just fine, fine writing in general

If Jane Austen had had a set of testicles, she would have written these.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 09:28 AM (TM5Iv)

46 Prof. Patricia Crone (people pronounced it, Kro-Nah) was a Dane.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:29 AM (SULSF)

47 > what is up with Cass Sunstein?

He's finally realized that the lynch mob will come for him sooner or later.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 09:29 AM (TM5Iv)

48 good luck naturalfake and thank you JuJuBee.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:30 AM (SULSF)

49 artemis' Acton & Doyle series is quite popular at the local library.
Congrats to Ann Cleeland on the new book!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 23, 2018 09:31 AM (CE6iV)

50 Hobbits? From The Shire? No kidding.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 09:31 AM (3HNOQ)

51 > The guy behind Di looks sinister. He's not even starting at her but, he's just leering over as if he's on a mission from the supervillain.

He looks like he might be the grandfather of Alex DeLarge from A Clockwork Orange. You need to be a little more subtle with the eye makeup, dude.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 09:31 AM (TM5Iv)

52 Don't worry, there was no cannibalism in South Carolina. Once you put that nasty mustard-laced barbecue sauce on, everything becomes inedible.

Posted by: Grouchy Dino at September 23, 2018 09:32 AM (dEnig)

53 That Life cover was more than likely painted with just four colors.

And is a wonderful representative of the Illustrator style prevalent on magazine covers of that time period.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 09:32 AM (kT3/m)

54 Hobbits? From The Shire? No kidding.


They're not called Hobbits, they just act like them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:32 AM (fuK7c)

55 In short, they are Hobbits.



Do we know, has anyone speculated, whether Tolkien were inspired by or borrowed from Wind in the Willow?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (fuK7c)|
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I suppose I could also look it up, but my sense is that there is a sub-genre in Brit Lit where they idealize the country life. Winnie the Pooh fits in this category.

Tolkien himself noted that the countryside where he grew up was being shabbily destroyed by the forces of modernity and so he turned against it.

Evelyn Waugh did a send-up of country life in "Scoop," and he too lamented its disappearance.

So I'd say its a generalized thing. People saw how society was changing and wrote fantasies about it. Kind of like how Westerns became a thing over here.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:33 AM (cfSRQ)

56 It's not fair. There was time now..

Posted by: Grump928(C) Native Texan and Alabama Alumn, Twice as Smug as You at September 23, 2018 09:33 AM (yQpMk)

57 I loved the Wheel of Time series but then it got insanely long and drawn out so I quit at around book 6. Same with Outlander---that one could have been a perfect 3 or 4 book series. OTOH, I can't wait for book 7 and onwards in the Frontline series of military sci fi by Markos Kloos, and I would have read any number of Odd Thomas books by Dean Koontz if he'd kept going.

Posted by: RigelDog at September 23, 2018 09:33 AM (wvieg)

58 It's not books, but is writing; (is this where you use a semi-colon? I never did figure that out in school) what is up with Cass Sunstein?

Yes, it's a stand alone sentence but you're providing a brief context for it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 23, 2018 09:34 AM (y7DUB)

59 Should have dubbed it dar al harb.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at September 23, 2018 09:34 AM (zbZ0x)

60 Reading : Manhattan Beach.
A Novel of Brooklyn.

Posted by: firefirefire at September 23, 2018 09:34 AM (LVVMh)

61 Libraries were looted. By the nazis. If fact, they made a point of looting the best libraries. Many privately owned by the Jews in countries that were run over by the Fritz. Books, manuscripts. Irreplaceable treasures. There's even a good book about it - "The Book Thieves: The Nazi Looting of Europe's Libraries and the Race to Return a Literary Inheritance " . I mentioned it a while back, right in this very forum when it first came out.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:34 AM (9lCXX)

62 My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the
way through? I guess the answer is yes, otherwise you wouldn't see so

many of them published. Me, I don't care how good it is, I just get

tired of them after about the 3rd book or so and want to move on to

something else.


I'm midway through V5 (of of Gibbon's Decline and Fall. I suppose that's different than reading fiction, though. His writing is pretty prolix and opaque, so you have to pay attention. I reckon it'll be about a year from start to finish for the series, because I read them intermittently rather than straight through, as I would do with a good novel. They haven't gotten old yet, and are excellent bedtime reading. I usually nod right off.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 09:34 AM (T6t7i)

63 Tolkien supposedly had many influences when he wrote the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, but Wind in the Willows was not one of them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:35 AM (mpXpK)

64 Speaking of "Licensed to Lie," I had wanted to purchase it, but the cheapest one I could find was around $40.00, and Amazon wasn't even carrying it.

But now the paperback is due out Oct. 2, and Amazon has it for pre-order at $19.16

Posted by: IrishEi at September 23, 2018 09:35 AM (Ri0Ku)

65 36 It's not books, but is writing; (is this where you use a semi-colon? I never did figure that out in school) what is up with Cass Sunstein? His last couple articles linked by Instapundit have all been about the need for truly free speech as well as intellectual and political diversity.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (uquGJ)

Maybe just maybe he sees the worm turning! Intellectualism and Technocrats have gotten so so so many things wrong since 9/11/2001 they know no one is eating their dog food except the moonbat leftists.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 09:35 AM (wU/T1)

66 (sheepish grin) I'm back. Got sucked into bed again for a couple of hours.

I finally...FINALLY finished MP4's "The News From Whitechapel". It was slow to start and I was slow to figure out how to read it. I was a third of the way through it before it started to coalesce. Then it was difficult to put down.

I have no more idea who Jack the Ripper was than I did when I started. This isn't about solving the murders but about life and the legal system in England in the 1880's. It's a fascinating look at the underbelly of London.

The book was incredibly well-researched. Editing was stellar. I think I found one typo in the entire book.

My tablet's on the fritz so I'm reduced to hardcopy books. Every so often I find myself tapping the edge of a page to turn it. How quickly we adjust!

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 09:35 AM (AzV8L)

67 Bandersnatch, I understand. Alice in Wonderland also had animals that behaved like Englishmen. A not-too-uncommon thing.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 09:36 AM (3HNOQ)

68 Can't testify Thursday--I just started The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and I have see how it turns out.

I should be done by mid-November.

Posted by: Professor Doctor Lawyer Christine '58 Plymouth-Ford at September 23, 2018 09:37 AM (Ndje9)

69 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 09:37 AM (hyuyC)

70
The first Condor novel was pretty good, and of course the film was great (even if Redford turned it into a stupid leftist fantasy about Peak Oil). The second Condor novel started out pretty gawdawful, to the point that I tossed it aside before getting 1/4 of the way through. Didn't bother starting the third one.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2018 09:37 AM (eXA4G)

71 Most of them start dragging after a while -- it becomes clear that the author is just cranking them out for a paycheck.
.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 09:28 AM (TM5Iv)
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This applies to David Eddings in particular. Both of his big fantasy books have a map in the front and then the characters proceed to go through everything on it. The journey doesn't even make sense, but on they go! Gotta showcase the world-building skills of the author and make extra bucks with the series.

As the author of a series, I will say that sometimes you just need that much room to get the full thing in. In fact, my fourth book was written because my proof-readers said the story didn't feel complete.


Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)

72 According to the research in the book, the public book "executions", burning - were done for show. To rile up the masses. The were keen on stealing and preserving the real treasures. Like illustrated manuscripts, unique collections, first editions. Many are now lost.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:38 AM (9lCXX)

73 @37
Everything is built on a foundation of what came before so it's not shocking that there are similarities.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 09:38 AM (kT3/m)

74 Been up for hours. Computer access problems since the Safari upgrade. Apple engineers are not what they used to be under Jobs.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 09:38 AM (hyuyC)

75 Years ago I found a book at a used bookstore. Nice little paperback book called The Black Eagles, about a fictional elite fighting unit in Vietnam war. I loved the book but realized in just one chapter, doh, it was part of a series. So then I went searching for the rest of the series, bookstore to bookstore. Found most of them except for the second in the series. The first one I read was the 3rd in the set
I never found book 2. When I finally got bored with my fave characters being killed (war is hell) and stopped reading them, I was on book 16 or 17. I believe there were many more. I sometimes think I should have continued the series.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 09:39 AM (myjNJ)

76 57
I loved the Wheel of Time series but then it got insanely long and drawn
out so I quit at around book 6. Same with Outlander---that one could
have been a perfect 3 or 4 book series. OTOH, I can't wait for book 7
and onwards in the Frontline series of military sci fi by Markos Kloos,
and I would have read any number of Odd Thomas books by Dean Koontz if
he'd kept going.


Posted by: RigelDog at September 23, 2018 09:33 AM (wvieg)

Yes, the wheel of Time was insanely long and far too many characters with side plots. when I started that series they only had four books out and the first three were paper backs. As they came out I struggled with the rest. I wish I had waited on the paperback versions after the first ones. Then I would have seen where he was headed and waited on the three end books that somebody else had to write from his notes.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:39 AM (mpXpK)

77 OT but good point by Devin Nunes:

How come the Brits and Australians know what's in the 302s and FISA warrants?

Posted by: IrishEi at September 23, 2018 09:39 AM (Ri0Ku)

78 OM, those pants were likely worn by a Redskins football fan for a Kwanza celebration. And I will pre-denounce myself now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 09:39 AM (hyuyC)

79 Yup. That lady is a dead ringer for Princess Diana.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 09:41 AM (AzV8L)

80 I upgraded to 12 and not seeing problems..interesting...maybe somebody is running weird software alongside (like Linux) that interferes...

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:41 AM (9lCXX)

81 Posted by: RigelDog at September 23, 2018 09:33 AM (wvieg)

I can't believe that the lesson Brandon Sanderson got from finishing the Wheel of Time series after Jordan's death was 'Series with 10+ doorstop tomes are awesome'. Unless the total he's threatening includes all the other novels that he is pulling into the Stormlight Archives universe. I don't think I like the way he's doing that, to be honest. The different worlds were fine in their separate universes.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 09:41 AM (uquGJ)

82 Don't worry, there was no cannibalism in South Carolina. Once you put that nasty mustard-laced barbecue sauce on, everything becomes inedible.

Posted by: Grouchy Dino at September 23, 2018 09:32 AM (dEnig)

That's a foul midlands/low country concoction.....civilized folk here in the Upstate don't eat that stuff.

Posted by: BignJames at September 23, 2018 09:41 AM (0+nbW)

83 @77
Because the FBI/DOJ/CIA was using them as proxies to spy on Americans so it makes sense that they would be asked to look at the 302's for inconsistencies and traps so that they could charge the targets with.

This shit is many, many levels deep.


Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 09:42 AM (kT3/m)

84 John Mortimer addressed Topic K decades ago throiugh Rumpole.

Scene: Rumpole is in debate with son's girlfriend, who has seen him cross-examine the accuser in a rape case that morning:

"It's like she's getting punished, isn't it?"

"Aren't you rather rushing things? I mean, who's saying a rape took place?"

"Well, isn't she?"

"Oh, I see. You think it's enough if she says it? It's a different sort of crime, is it? I mean, not like murder or shoplifting, or forging checks. They still have to be proved in the old-fashioned way. But rape ... Some dotty girl only has to say you did it and you trot off to chokey without asking embarrassing questions. ...

"You're asking for women witnesses to be more equal than any other witnesses!"

-- John Mortimer, "Rumpole and the Honorable Member"

Posted by: Week Geek at September 23, 2018 09:42 AM (Fi5v8)

85 71 As the author of a series, I will say that
sometimes you just need that much room to get the full thing in. In
fact, my fourth book was written because my proof-readers said the story
didn't feel complete.



Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)

The problem with Eddings books is the plot is nearly the same for every book. Terry Brooks is the same way.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:42 AM (mpXpK)

86 > Apple engineers are not what they used to be under Jobs.

Some guys on the Internet:

Guy #1: "I'm tired of hearing about how much better things were under Steve. Steve wasn't magical."
Guy #2: "It's not that Steve was 'magical'. It's that he was fucking terrifying."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 09:43 AM (TM5Iv)

87 Cover girl looks like Diana because of the way she looks up at you while her head is bent forward.
Di did that a lot.

It's a look that conveys secrecy

the creepy guy behind her is doing the same

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 23, 2018 09:43 AM (CE6iV)

88 68
Can't testify Thursday--I just started The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and I have see how it turns out.



I should be done by mid-November.



Posted by: Professor Doctor Lawyer Christine '58 Plymouth-Ford


I don't care what you say, I was not at that party with you, and I did not attempt to grab your sweater puppies. No proper Englishman would do such a thing.

Posted by: Edward Gibbon at September 23, 2018 09:44 AM (T6t7i)

89 @83
And it's becoming abundantly clear why a lot of people want to keep the lid on all of this...

If everything we know or speculate became publicly known, it would litterally bring down the LE and IC apparatus of the US.

Posted by: Kreplach at September 23, 2018 09:44 AM (kT3/m)

90 Hey guys, I have a favour to ask...

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:00 AM (N1ZXu)
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Done, my dear boho.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 09:45 AM (C1PQi)

91 I'm midway through V5 (of of Gibbon's Decline and Fall. I suppose that's different than reading fiction, though. His writing is pretty prolix and opaque, so you have to pay attention. I reckon it'll be about a year from start to finish for the series, because I read them intermittently rather than straight through, as I would do with a good novel. They haven't gotten old yet, and are excellent bedtime reading. I usually nod right off.
Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 09:34 AM (T6t7i)


I'm midway through volume 6 as part of a really long, multi year, journey and find his writing unnecessarily dense and constipated. He also illustrates the perils of the autodidact as he plunged into so many foreign texts in which he got almost everything wrong, particularly to advance his animosity toward Christianity.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 23, 2018 09:45 AM (y7DUB)

92 Week Geek, Excellent. The golden thread. Innocent until proven guilty.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 09:45 AM (3HNOQ)

93 *looks at Life pic above Hey, she does look like princess Diana. Why is the guy creepy ? He's just conjuring up a good pick up line in his head, that's all.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:46 AM (9lCXX)

94 Yes, the wheel of Time was insanely long and far too
many characters with side plots. when I started that series they only
had four books out and the first three were paper backs. As they came
out I struggled with the rest. I wish I had waited on the paperback
versions after the first ones. Then I would have seen where he was
headed and waited on the three end books that somebody else had to write
from his notes.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:39 AM (mpXpK)
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Some friends of mine were reading it and I was intrigued but just couldn't commit to that much reading without knowing how it ends. It's the same reason I never started the Game of Throne books and abandoned the show after season 1.

I don't mean I want the spoilers, btw, I just want to know if people feel the ending was worth the writing. I've noticed a lot of modern authors fail to "stick the landing" and end up pissing people off.

I figured I'd avoid heartache by waiting until the whole thing is done.

BTW, that's why I also waited until I was finished with the draft of The Imperial Rebellion before publishing A Man of Destiny. I wanted to make sure it lived up to the promise of the first book, was consistent, etc.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)

95
Cover girl looks like Diana because of the way she looks up at you while her head is bent forward.
Di did that a lot.

It's a look that conveys secrecy

the creepy guy behind her is doing the same

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at September 23, 2018 09:43 AM (CE6iV)






The Kubrickian "gaze through your eyebrows" visual trope.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 23, 2018 09:47 AM (eXA4G)

96 Bluebell !! Have you seen that total outrage, across the pond ?

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:47 AM (9lCXX)

97 I mean, the nerve !

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:48 AM (9lCXX)

98 They want to talk to each other but cannot. They have not been formally introduced.

Posted by: JAS at September 23, 2018 09:48 AM (3HNOQ)

99 That newly minted duchess stole yours and Weasel's recipe book idea !

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (9lCXX)

100 Missed the movie thread last night, so a quickie review of "Mandy", the Nicholas Cage "horror" movie.

It is very much an "art" movie by director/writer Panos Cosmatos.

Though I was never bored the first half is slow, the second half is almost pure cinema with very little dialogue until the final confrontation and is mostly violent revenge.

Nicholas Cage is great here. Good acting and great charisma.

I think the story is based around the Rape of Persephone or perhaps Orpheus descent into Hell to retrieve Eurydice.

Sort of like a psychedelic David Lynch movie.

More next movie thread.

Can't really generally recommend it, but if it sound like something you'd like, you probably will.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (CRRq9)

101 Edward Gibbon...Edward Gibbon...Now I remember! He was at the pool party, too!

Go ahead--ask him!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (Ndje9)

102 I'm midway through volume 6 as part of a really long, multi year,
journey and find his writing unnecessarily dense and constipated. He
also illustrates the perils of the autodidact as he plunged into so many
foreign texts in which he got almost everything wrong, particularly to
advance his animosity toward Christianity.


Agreed about his writing, although I'm fonder of that style than most. Interestingly, I asked my minister (a PhD in ancient languages) about one of the more obscure points (homoousian vs homoiousian), and he was quite hostile to the books. I guess he didn't care for Gibbon's take on the Church.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 09:50 AM (T6t7i)

103
I've noticed a lot of modern authors fail to "stick the landing" and end up pissing people off.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)







Luckily, those of us who write video game plots would NEVER do something like that. Perish the thought.

Posted by: The writers for Mass Effect 3 at September 23, 2018 09:50 AM (eXA4G)

104 Sort of like a psychedelic David Lynch movie.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (CRRq9)

Is that redundant?

Posted by: BignJames at September 23, 2018 09:51 AM (0+nbW)

105 If done right extended series books are OK. They need to have a plot that is mostly independent of the rest of the series to be good. For example that new Honor Harrington book I referenced up thread is the 19th book in the Honor Harrington series. But every book has a different plot and you don't really have to read all the books in front of it to understand the plot.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:51 AM (mpXpK)

106 That newly minted duchess stole yours and Weasel's recipe book idea !
Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (9lCXX)
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What? She put together a book of Moron recipes too? Well, ours is better, because it's full of recipes from real, authentic Morons. Can't say fairer than that.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 09:51 AM (C1PQi)

107 I've noticed a lot of modern authors fail to "stick the landing" and end up pissing people off.

I think the problem is that they've written themselves into such a corner that by the end there simply is no way to make it all make sense. It's a strong argument for having the general multi-book arc plotted out beforehand.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 09:52 AM (T6t7i)

108 Well, ours is better, because it's full of recipes from real, authentic Morons.


Better drawings, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:53 AM (fuK7c)

109 I finished "The Wind in the Willows". Utterly charming....
Now I have a question which intrigues me enough that I saved it up to ask the Book Thread instead of resorting to easy answers on the intertubes:
We first meet a mole whitewashing his burrow. Then we meet a succession of critters living above and below ground, all in the manner of the folk of the English countryside. They all have larders and enjoy good meals, and in their displays of personality the represent or mock different expressions of countrified Britons.
In short, they are Hobbits.
Do we know, has anyone speculated, whether Tolkien were inspired by or borrowed from Wind in the Willow?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (fuK7c)


I don't know about Tolkien, but I do know that C.S. Lewis thought that Wind in the Willows was a great book. You can see the influence in the Narnia book. In fact, if you read Lewis's description of Mr. Badger's burrow in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, it's obviously a rip-off (or, more politely, borrowing) of WitW.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 09:53 AM (aGFaW)

110 94 Some friends of mine were reading it and I was
intrigued but just couldn't commit to that much reading without knowing
how it ends. It's the same reason I never started the Game of Throne
books and abandoned the show after season 1.

I don't mean I want
the spoilers, btw, I just want to know if people feel the ending was
worth the writing. I've noticed a lot of modern authors fail to "stick
the landing" and end up pissing people off.

I figured I'd avoid heartache by waiting until the whole thing is done.

BTW,
that's why I also waited until I was finished with the draft of The
Imperial Rebellion before publishing A Man of Destiny. I wanted to make
sure it lived up to the promise of the first book, was consistent, etc.




Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)

My wife got me the first two books of Game of Thrones in hardcover. I tried reading the first one twice and never could get in to it. I wound up giving both books to the library and never even cracked the second book.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:54 AM (mpXpK)

111 Better drawings, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:53 AM (fuK7c)
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True. As you say, it's more of an art book with a few recipes sprinkled throughout.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 09:55 AM (C1PQi)

112 105
If done right extended series books are OK. They need to have a plot
that is mostly independent of the rest of the series to be good. For
example that new Honor Harrington book I referenced up thread is the
19th book in the Honor Harrington series. But every book has a different
plot and you don't really have to read all the books in front of it to
understand the plot.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:51 AM (mpXpK)

---
I think the series falls into three categories.

You have the actual "book 1 of X" type, often trilogy, that tell a single story arc.

Then there are the ones you refer to above, where there isn't an overall arc, just a series of adventures.

The final group is a loose series that takes place in a shared universe but don't necessarily relate and don't even tell the same story. Evelyn Waugh did that and had characters pop in and out of various interlinked books, all of which were technically standalone.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:55 AM (cfSRQ)

113 1 Hey guys, I have a favour to ask...

My book House of War got a fake review: amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RI9FBKX7NDZ7C/

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 09:00 AM (N1ZXu)

***

Abuse reported.

"Dickman", indeed!

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at September 23, 2018 09:56 AM (NqQAS)

114 102 Agreed about his writing, although I'm fonder of
that style than most. Interestingly, I asked my minister (a PhD in
ancient languages) about one of the more obscure points (homoousian vs
homoiousian), and he was quite hostile to the books. I guess he didn't
care for Gibbon's take on the Church.


Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 09:50 AM (T6t7i)

My take on Gibbons was he blamed the Roman Catholic church for the fall of Rome. After the first two or three chapters I took it back to the library.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:56 AM (mpXpK)

115 Sort of like a psychedelic David Lynch movie.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (CRRq9)

Is that redundant?
Posted by: BignJames at September 23, 2018 09:51 AM (0+nbW)


Surprisingly, no.

His visuals are more concerned with the mechanics and look of an acid trip or perspective of madness rather than the off-kilter logic of a Lynch movie.

If you see what I mean,

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 09:57 AM (CRRq9)

116 Another damned thick book! Always scribble, scribble, scribble! Eh, Mr. Gibbon?

Posted by: Prince William Henry, Duke of Gloucester and Edinburgh at September 23, 2018 09:58 AM (TM5Iv)

117


@Bluebell, it was a charity thing, compilation of recipes from residents of a ghetto (?) that had a fire. They all contributed (what a novel idea !), as did she, and HRH also wrote a forward.

@Bandersnatch - totally agree about the drawings !

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:58 AM (9lCXX)

118 My wife got me the first two books of Game of
Thrones in hardcover. I tried reading the first one twice and never
could get in to it. I wound up giving both books to the library and
never even cracked the second book.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:54 AM (mpXpK)

---
The first season of the show convinced me to take a hard pass on the books. I know some folks love them (like my wife) but I couldn't really get into a bunch of awful people doing awful things to each other. Described in agonizing detail over thousands of pages.

I just want the ice zombies to come and kill them all.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:58 AM (cfSRQ)

119 Late to the thread, dammit!

Good morning to my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. Mine has been eclectic but enjoyable.

And welcome to autumn. After the steam bath summer this year, it's about damn time.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 09:58 AM (V+03K)

120 Gibbon was a great historian, but I much prefer his works on foraging wild plants, and his later musical work with ZZ Top.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 09:59 AM (TM5Iv)

121 Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 09:35 AM (AzV8L)
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Howdy creeper! Was it you who mentioned (a week or two ago) getting a tree farm bumper sticker for a certified tree farm? Well mine came in the mail the very next day. I ordered a couple of signs to put on the property, too.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 09:59 AM (MVjcR)

122 Actually there was a lot of crime that flourished during the Blitz. Criminals and psychos never miss an opportunity. There are a number of books on this . The most obvious is Crimes During WW II.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 23, 2018 10:00 AM (2DOZq)

123 Tolkien himself noted that the countryside where he grew up was being shabbily destroyed by the forces of modernity and so he turned against it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 09:33 AM (cfSRQ)


Which is why the LotR bad guys are all about building horrible things and destroying trees and wildlife. I'll have more to say on this topic in a future book thread.

Same with Lewis' novel 'That Hideous Strength'. It was all "country life good, machines bad". Used to very good effect.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 10:00 AM (aGFaW)

124 I've noticed a lot of modern authors fail to "stick the landing" and end up pissing people off.

-
Two words: Dean Koontz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 10:01 AM (+y/Ru)

125 My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through?

Depends on what you mean by "like this". I know I've read the entire Aubrey series, thrice. And the Basset cycle of Jeeves stories several times.

And I have read all the Judge Dee series in chronological order. (The list at the end of Judge Dee At Work.) I suspect it's really common among mystery readers. Since I'm not really a sci-fi/fantasy/horror addict, I'm not sure. But I think some friends of mine who are have done so.

But then, does Narnia count? Or the Oz books?

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 10:01 AM (59GGI)

126 Ok, runner, if she did it for charity, I guess it's ok, although she stole that idea from us too. Undoubtedly she saw the 194 reviews we have on Amazon and said "these Morons have got it going on.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 10:01 AM (C1PQi)

127 Oh, t'hobo, the premise of your book looks utterly fascinating.

I'm always amazed at what people will delve into when they get the bug and decide to dive as deep as possible.

I also reported the abuse, of course.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:02 AM (fuK7c)

128 Oh! Oh! I almost forgot.

Whilst grocery shopping on Tuesday I scored a copy of Carl Hiassen's "Sick Puppy". It kept me sane for three days.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 10:02 AM (AzV8L)

129 Gibbon was a great historian, but I much prefer his works on foraging wild plants, and his later musical work with ZZ Top.

-
He's got legions and knows how to use them!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 10:03 AM (+y/Ru)

130 My take on Gibbons was he blamed the Roman Catholic
church for the fall of Rome. After the first two or three chapters I
took it back to the library.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 09:56 AM (mpXpK)

---
That sells him short. The anti-Christian stuff gets tedious, but his account of early empire is well done and arguably remains the authoritative work on the topic.

The core issue with Gibbon is that on a long enough timeline, everything is in decline. To claim that loss of virtue, or the spread of Christianity was what brought down the Empire would first require someone to have a control case of a massive multi-national empire that somehow never fell.

I stalled out at Volume IV but I intend to finish it. I will say that he compares very unfavorably to Winston Churchill. I took all six volumes of the Second World War in one go.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)

131 Howdy creeper! Was it you who mentioned (a week or
two ago) getting a tree farm bumper sticker for a certified tree farm?
Well mine came in the mail the very next day. I ordered a couple of
signs to put on the property, too.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 09:59 AM (MVjcR)


Wasn't me, Weasel. But it sound like something I ought to look into.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 10:04 AM (AzV8L)

132 Love the two photos. The book store one is a wonderful example of what good black and white photography can do. The exposure and sharpness is excellent.

The 1910 magazine cover is such a pleasant mixture of the times, fashions, and the subtle humor of the 'dedicated' bibliophiles.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 10:05 AM (V+03K)

133

Wasn't me, Weasel. But it sound like something I ought to look into.
Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 10:04 AM (AzV8L)
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Ah, geez. Sorry!

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 10:06 AM (MVjcR)

134 The problem with Gibbon is that people call it an ape, but it doesn't look human the way a gorilla or a bonobo does.

I think it's just a sneaky monkey that lost its tail.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:06 AM (fuK7c)

135 The big book I'm almost finished with is Between Silk and Cyanide: A Codemaker's War 1941-1945 by Leo Marks. This hits an area I know a lot about.

All Hail Eris gets the nod for recommending it to me.

The author was 23 in the events he wrote about, as the chief code-maker in SOE during WWII. I wanted to smack him a number of times for being a nerd out of managerial waters. And he was smacked around regularly by his bosses.

He cared deeply about protecting the W/T traffic from agents in Occupied Europe, and later the world. So he worked his rear off getting better coding materials, and trying to get fool-proof systems and unbreakable codes approved.

He worked so hard trying to get his superiors to figure out the Holland SOE agents were turned. He tried time and time again to warn his bosses. Eventually, over 50 agents in Holland were killed by the Nazis. As were a large number of French agents, including beautiful UK SOE women, some of whom were awarded the George Cross, posthumously.

Leo Marks was completely unaware of the massive strategic deception plan the British had in place. But his bosses knew. They sacrificed all those agents to make D-Day a success.

SOE was a major channel of the cover stories for invading France. That is why Leo was never able to warn his superiors. They did not want unbreakable codes. It was part of their deeply secret plan, and his efforts could single-handedly destroy the deception plan, endangering many thousands of UK, Canadian and American soldier's lives during the invasion.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:07 AM (hyuyC)

136 He's just conjuring up a good pick up line in his head, that's all.



*******

Like this one?

"Excuse me miss. Can I ask your opinion? Do you think this handkerchief smells like chloroform?"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 10:08 AM (m45I2)

137 Can't really generally recommend it, but if it sound like something you'd like, you probably will.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 09:49 AM (CRRq9)
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It sounds like something I very much would enjoy, harkening back to the batsh*t bugnutz grindhouse films yet also being arty and beautiful. I liked the dreamlike scenes of Mandy with her melancholic madonna face, filmed in lurid purples and reds. And Nick Cage doing his patented meltdowns, wielding his hand-forged ax against LSD-soaked biker Jesus freaks? Yeah, I'm there.

Jay from Red Letter Media really liked it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 10:09 AM (kQs4Y)

138 >>>during WWII, the Germans tried to ruin Britain's economy by flooding the country with counterfeit £5 notes

So Ben Bernanke was a Nazi? Color me shocked.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 10:10 AM (/qEW2)

139 Not to worry, Weasel. As much whining as I've done about the new plantings it's not surprising you thought it was me.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 10:11 AM (AzV8L)

140 he big book I'm almost finished with is Between Silk and Cyanide: A Codemaker's War 1941-1945 by Leo Marks. This hits an area I know a lot about.

All Hail Eris gets the nod for recommending it to me.
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I've never read this book!

Was it somebody else?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 10:12 AM (kQs4Y)

141 My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through?

For the most part, no. I gave up on Sue Grafton after D. Gave up on the Wheel of Time series halfway through the 3rd book (or maybe it was the 3rd edition of the 1st book, same thing). I did read all of the Dresden Chronicles but it seems that Butcher has lost interest in the series and I guess I have too. I was semi-anxiously waiting for the next one but now I'll probably skip it when/if it comes out.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 23, 2018 10:12 AM (cTajt)

142 That sells him short. The anti-Christian stuff gets tedious, but his account of early empire is well done and arguably remains the authoritative work on the topic.

The core issue with Gibbon is that on a long enough timeline, everything is in decline. To claim that loss of virtue, or the spread of Christianity was what brought down the Empire would first require someone to have a control case of a massive multi-national empire that somehow never fell.

I stalled out at Volume IV but I intend to finish it. I will say that he compares very unfavorably to Winston Churchill. I took all six volumes of the Second World War in one go.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)


Yes to all of this. If I thought that he was just an anti God Squad hack I'd have never invested as much time as I continue to do. He does get some things hilariously wrong, which some commenters gleefully point out, but it was a mammoth undertaking at the time to seek out as many contemporaneous sources in different languages as possible and deserves some slack for that.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 23, 2018 10:12 AM (y7DUB)

143 He followed me from the bookstore to the party.

Posted by: DOCTOR Ford at September 23, 2018 10:12 AM (FhO+a)

144 I'm always pimping Steven Pressfield's books but two of his books are perfect for the times.

Tides of War is about the Peloponnesian War and it mirrors a lot of what is going on today. The main antagonist, Alcibiades is somewhat like Trump.

The Profession takes place in 2032 . Wars are basically fought by mercenaries hired by the super powers . Mostly set in the Middle East. It takes place in the future but it's not really sci fi in that it does not make up outrageous tech.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 23, 2018 10:12 AM (2DOZq)

145 Do we know, has anyone speculated, whether Tolkien were inspired by or borrowed from Wind in the Willow?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (fuK7c)


C S Lewis said that no one could influence Tolkien. "You might as well try to influence a bandersnatch." (Really.)

Wind in the Willows looms VERY large in Lewis's mind. He's constantly referring to it in his criticism, and often when NOT talking about children's books.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 10:13 AM (59GGI)

146 his name was Gibbon because he flung a lot of poo.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:13 AM (Xk4Hx)

147 "...the saving grace of that series was the progression of times. Existing characters aged, grew old, and died, and new characters were added to replace them, so things didn't get stale."
That's what I did in the Adelsverein Trilogy, and the other five books that are part of that cycle: follows four families over seventy years: who is a major character in one or two books is a minor one in the next, and merely a mention in the one after that. It made sense to me - people resolve their issues, settle down ... and their descendants move to front and center with their own challenges.
I'm finishing up the next Luna City book, BTW - do any Book Threadists want to alpha-read and critique? My email is clyahhayes-at-gee-mail-dot-com.
Finished up an exhausting day yesterday at the San Marcos Mermaid Splash, helping out my daughter as a vendor in the art show. We rather like San Marcos, as it's laid-back and artistic, and not so nutso as Austin. It's where Austin was about thirty years ago.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 23, 2018 10:14 AM (xnmPy)

148 Well, time to get ready for mass. Until next week!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 10:15 AM (cfSRQ)

149 C S Lewis said that no one could influence Tolkien. "You might as well try to influence a bandersnatch." (Really.)


My day is made.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:15 AM (fuK7c)

150 "people saw all of this money lying around on the street so they picked it up and turned it in to the authorities. "


=

Maybe german intelligence had a goof, and it was like flooding with $3 bills ?

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:16 AM (9lCXX)

151 his name was Gibbon because he flung a lot of poo.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:13 AM (Xk4Hx)



Sounds like the opening line of a great country-western song.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 10:16 AM (CRRq9)

152 36 It's not books, but is writing; (is this where you use a semi-colon? I never did figure that out in school) what is up with Cass Sunstein? His last couple articles linked by Instapundit have all been about the need for truly free speech as well as intellectual and political diversity.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (uquGJ)


Yes. Also, I've noticed the same thing about Glenn Greenwald. For example, on Twitter this morning he remarks:

"Even after everything we've seen, NYT columnists still mistake their highly insular homogenized friends' views for pervasive sentiment."

Going after his erstwhile buddies for living in a bubble is not going to get him invited to their parties.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 10:16 AM (aGFaW)

153 *looks at Life pic above Hey, she does look like
princess Diana. Why is the guy creepy ? He's just conjuring up a good
pick up line in his head, that's all.
Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 09:46 AM (9lCXX)


Looks like Captain Darling doing counter-espionage.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 10:17 AM (mUa7G)

154 The core issue with Gibbon is that on a long enough timeline, everything
is in decline. To claim that loss of virtue, or the spread of
Christianity was what brought down the Empire would first require
someone to have a control case of a massive multi-national empire that
somehow never fell.

True, scientifically speaking, but since it's impossible to do, the next best thing is trying to suss out the things that probably caused Rome's fall. I think he's done a good job of that, and am astonished at what he was able to do given the technological constraints on research at the time, to say nothing of writing with a quill pen.

While he does seem to view the church with a rather jaundiced eye, there are passages where he speaks favorably of it. He really seems to hate monks, though.
Finally, there is a school of thought that holds that the Roman Empire actually retarded progress, and that its dissolution was necessary for civilization to advance. I'm not saying I agree completely, but there is merit to that position. Any civilization that becomes static and ossified resists progress. Think China before the 20th century.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 10:17 AM (T6t7i)

155 those 5-quid notes with King Edward VIII in natty Hugo Boss wear were kind of a tipoff.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:17 AM (Xk4Hx)

156 TBH, I have also flagged the review you linked.

As a curiosity, I went looked up a book I had left a critical review for. I was a pre-Algebra book for adults that seemed written to convince students that only super-smart people can do algebra (the forward specifically said the purpose of the book was to disorient the reader) while ridiculously inserting politics with chapter titles like "Separate but Equal" and exercises where you were supposed to conclude some leftist or SJW bromide.

My review is nowhere to be found.

Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 10:18 AM (4HMW8)

157 I look at the kid reading the book and, from my own personal experience, nothing like diving into a book and forgetting about the world around one for a while.

Considering it was wartime Britain, have to figure the kid was hungry and afraid and, through reading, was able to forget all that for a bit.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 10:19 AM (WEBkv)

158 I've been trying to avoid paying too much attention to the news and reading is the best way to do so.

Among other material I brought out my copies of the various MASH books. I never cared for the first one that got things started but the follow-on books: 'MASH Goes to Maine' and 'MASH Mania' are delightful. They are basically vignettes and combine humor with tear making poignant moments. These are the books written only by Hooker.

I also read a couple of the 'MASH Goes to ...' which are completely silly but still fun. I had forgotten the attitudes of the characters and their mistrust of politicians, journalists, and women's libbers. They were 40 years ahead of their time.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 10:20 AM (V+03K)

159 I don't know about Tolkien, but I do know that C.S. Lewis thought that Wind in the Willows was a great book. You can see the influence in the Narnia book. In fact, if you read Lewis's description of Mr. Badger's burrow in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, it's obviously a rip-off (or, more politely, borrowing) of WitW.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 09:53 AM (aGFaW)


True, but you mean Mr & Mrs Beaver.

Lewis's attitude toward "rip offs" in lit was not the modern one. He once wrote that, if you'd asked Chaucer or any other medieval writer "Why don't you make up your own stories?", the reply would be "Surely we're not reduced to that yet!"

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 10:20 AM (59GGI)

160 I've read many series. A few are:

The Hornblower series, the Narnia series, the Oz series, all the Edgar Rice Burroughs books, including the Tarzan, Barsoom, Venus, Pellucidar, Moon, and Beatrice, Nebraska series, the LOTR books, Honorverse books, and the never ending Orson Scott Card Ender's Game books.

Ender's Game and the first sequel, Speaker for the Dead are great. The books on Ender's Shadow, about Bean, are pretty good. Just went through a comfort re-reading of them.

The co-authored ones on the first and second Formic War blow chunks. Not recommended unless you need fire-starter in the Yukon. There are better books out there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:21 AM (hyuyC)

161 Greenwald burned a lot of bridges, and had an opportunity top see things from a unique, shall we say, perspective when he became a conduit for Snowden.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:21 AM (9lCXX)

162 If Kavanaugh has the pussy-brain, why does Ford have the hat?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 23, 2018 10:21 AM (Ndje9)

163 > My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through?

Mystery/Thriller series seem to hold up better in the later volumes.

I've read SF/Fantasy series past 8 novels and enjoyed them but haven't read any *recent* ones (last 10 years or so).

Posted by: ArthurK at September 23, 2018 10:22 AM (24wOG)

164 There is potentially a different 'take' on the boy in the bombed out bookstore.

Perhaps he was there before the bomb hit and was so engrossed in the book that he didn't even realize what had happened.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 10:22 AM (m45I2)

165 One other thing of consideration is that modern historians are now taking the position that Rome "did not fall". The empire collapsed as a single entity but individual city-states persisted and went on to form new countries in the middle ages. .

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 10:22 AM (mpXpK)

166 "Yeah, I'm coming Ma! Let me just finish this chapter!"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 10:23 AM (m45I2)

167 There is a book entitled Bandersnatch: C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and the Creative Collaboration of the Inklings by Diana Glyer:

https://tinyurl.com/y98ptojp

Tolkien didn't like the Chronicles of Narnia and was not shy in telling Lewis so!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 10:23 AM (kQs4Y)

168 ... His last couple articles linked by Instapundit have all been about the need for truly free speech as well as intellectual and political diversity.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 09:24 AM (uquGJ)

Yes. Also, I've noticed the same thing about Glenn Greenwald. For example, on Twitter this morning he remarks:

"Even after everything we've seen, NYT columnists still mistake their highly insular homogenized friends' views for pervasive sentiment."

Going after his erstwhile buddies for living in a bubble is not going to get him invited to their parties.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 10:16 AM (aGFaW)



Greenwald's probably historically literate enough, so he knows where this eventually leads, once a Leftard Revolution gets going.

The guillotine, the gulag, the killing fields, are always, always hungry for more.

He, I think, is gay too. So, he's got to be aware of that bodes in all leftist or leftist inspired revolutions (Nazis, Commies, Muslim).

Camps and roof tops are always hungry for more as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 10:23 AM (CRRq9)

169 I've never read this book!

Was it somebody else?


Posted by: All Hail Eris,


Mebbe there's another Book Thread in another dimension and they use our names.

And we can only view it when the streams get crossed inadvertently.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 10:24 AM (mBbsP)

170 Regarding long series -

I once heard Orson Scott Card say he doesn't do them because there's a definite hit to the number of sales with each additional book in the series. On the other hand, Robert Jordan doesn't appear to have suffered from it. And Brandon Sanderson has a long-running series that just hit book three.

So... who knows these days.

Posted by: junior at September 23, 2018 10:25 AM (4ZkmO)

171
The co-authored ones on the first and second
Formic War blow chunks. Not recommended unless you need fire-starter in
the Yukon. There are better books out there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:21 AM (hyuyC


And that reminds me. I've got five pounds of scrap candle wax, a couple of gallon ziploc bags full of lint, and sixteen egg cartons. It's getting chilly and the fireplace is looking better every day. Time to make fire-starters.
Have a great Sunday, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: creeper at September 23, 2018 10:25 AM (AzV8L)

172 Perhaps he was there before the bomb hit and was so engrossed in the book that he didn't even realize what had happened.

The building around him succumbed
As did many about which were bombed
Scant noticed the boy
Enthralled in the joy
Of immersion in the book that he thumbed

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:26 AM (fuK7c)

173 There are a few series I've read (and re-read) over the years. The Lensman books and Skylark series by EE Smith, the Martha's Vineyard mysteries by Philip Craig, the Liturgical mystery series I've mentioned here several times, and the MASH books I mentioned above.

I expect to add the Patrick O'Brian Aubrey books and anything written by Cornwell over the next few years.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 10:26 AM (V+03K)

174 One other thing of consideration is that modern historians are now
taking the position that Rome "did not fall". The empire collapsed as a
single entity but individual city-states persisted and went on to form
new countries in the middle ages.


Say what? You know what I call an empire that consists of individual city-states? Not an empire.

Posted by: Odoacer at September 23, 2018 10:26 AM (T6t7i)

175 One other thing of consideration is that modern historians are now taking the position that Rome "did not fall". The empire collapsed as a single entity but individual city-states persisted and went on to form new countries in the middle ages. Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Spoiler Alert, please!

Now I'll have to start War and Peace. Can't possibly testify 'til December now.

Posted by: Professor Doctor Lawyer Christine '58 Plymouth-Ford at September 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Ndje9)

176 All Hail Eris,

Pretty sure you mentioned it. Take a bow.

I pay attention to your likes and dislikes in Intel and SF, since there is some overlap. That book had been on my radar screen for several year, but I got it after you brought it up.

I'm not going to search the ace.mu archives. Got to get to some outdoor chores soon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:28 AM (hyuyC)

177 Maybe german intelligence had a goof, and it was like flooding with $3 bills ?
Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:16 AM (9lCXX)


Malcolm Muggeridge tells a story of a great German intel goof in WWII. They decided to use Wodehouse as a guide to what a Brit should be like. So they landed an agent complete with spats and monocle. Naturally, he was picked up at once. He compares it to what would happen if the Brits had parachuted in an agent smoking a giant meerschaum pipe, and wearing lederhosen.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 10:28 AM (59GGI)

178 Muldoon, I just tried to comment on your limerick blog again. I can't see it, but maybe you're moderating comments? I seem to have bad luck with this - I tried to leave votermom a birthday message on her blog once and that never made it either.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 10:29 AM (C1PQi)

179 modern historians are now taking the position that Rome "did not fall"

nah, it did. Peter Heather's Restoration of Rome is good on this question. Several successor states made claim to be Rome and/or to carry on the Roman legacy, but it was all propaganda. Even the freakin' Ottomans claimed to be the next Rome.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:29 AM (Xk4Hx)

180 this is almost as exciting as watching piss wallace showing the country his sagging ass on national tv.
fox, the network of shep smith, piss wallace, and juan williams. i'm sure colon krapperdick is on their short list for a new look at life in the hood. or, the barber shop.

Posted by: dr. chavez THE hugo md, phd. at September 23, 2018 10:29 AM (KP5rU)

181 > his name was Gibbon because he flung a lot of poo.

He's got poo. He knows how to fling it.
The stinkeroo. He knows how to bring it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 10:30 AM (TM5Iv)

182 As we try to keep the book thread focused on books, and not go off topic, I encourage you to return to the Morning Thread where I just posted a link concerning the Dr Ford letter.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 23, 2018 10:30 AM (wldC6)

183
There is potentially a different 'take' on the boy in the bombed out bookstore.

Young Burgess Meredith before he needed glasses.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 10:31 AM (IqV8l)

184 Of immersion in the book that he thumbed



By a buzz bomb the building was scrapped
In the rubble the boy had been trapped
But although he was bleeding
He just kept on reading
Like a Christmas gift, he was well-rapt

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 10:32 AM (m45I2)

185 Since I am a fan of the series of books by CJ Box with the main character of Joe Pickett, who is a game warden (mostly), I thought I would try The Poachers Son by Paul Doiron. It is the first in a series of books with the main character of Mike Bowditch and managed to be nominated for an Edgar award for Best First Novel. Bowditch is a young game warden in Maine and a major part of the novel hinges upon characters he knew as a child and his dad (see title of Poachers Son). It is well written and the mystery holds together, but I just was not sold that Mike Bowditch would go to such lengths for his father (who he does not have a good relationship with). I am open to trying one of the later books to see if I warm to them a bit more.

Posted by: Charlotte at September 23, 2018 10:32 AM (mt65F)

186 Regarding long series -

I once heard Orson Scott Card say he doesn't do them because there's a definite hit to the number of sales with each additional book in the series. On the other hand, Robert Jordan doesn't appear to have suffered from it. And Brandon Sanderson has a long-running series that just hit book three.

So... who knows these days.
Posted by: junior at September 23, 2018 10:25 AM (4ZkmO)

I haven't noticed that. Usually if they read my first one, they buy all five. Sometimes all at once. What aggravates me is they will write a review for the first, maybe the second but that trails off around the third.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at September 23, 2018 10:32 AM (rGYKJ)

187 SOE was a major channel of the cover stories for invading France. That is why Leo was never able to warn his superiors. They did not want unbreakable codes. It was part of their deeply secret plan, and his efforts could single-handedly destroy the deception plan, endangering many thousands of UK, Canadian and American soldier's lives during the invasion.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:07 AM (hyuyC)

---------------------

Wow. That blurb gives new meaning to the word, "ruthless."

Letting your own agents be killed "for the greater good."

Uggh.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 10:33 AM (WEBkv)

188 As we try to keep the book thread focused on books, and not go off topic, I encourage you to return to the Morning Thread where I just posted a link concerning the Dr Ford letter.


Thank you for that, VIA. I like it when book and art threads are mostly about books and art and the politics has its own place.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:33 AM (fuK7c)

189 To complete the eclectic reading for this week I've been enjoying are Montaigne's Essays (but no more than two in a day), a new biography of Francis Marion, the Swamp Fox, The Muzzle-loading Cap Lock Rifle by Ned Roberts and books about black powder shooting accessories like pouches and powder horns.

All this weird combination of reading matter distracted me from most of the news and kept me from posting bannable comments on AoSHQ. I expect more of the same this week.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 10:33 AM (V+03K)

190 About 20 years ago I went to library sale and bought about 50 classics. Hemingway, Twain, McCollugh, etc. Real books, not paperbacks. Carried 1 or 2 with me everywhere and when I finished it handed it to person on beach or plane seat, or whatever. May do that again.

Pics of MIL (died in 12) and FIL (died this year and I knew longer than my own Dad!) Library in Rogers Ar.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9r8RpoZySXPYGqr88

https://photos.app.goo.gl/sZn1MZuTcohpanc9A

PS House is for sale if anyone looking.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 10:33 AM (wU/T1)

191 Except for being here and watching Tucker I've avoided the news and been listening to classical music. I did however, read a neat little book, 145 pages, by Ben K Green.
A Thousand Miles of Mustangi'. He tells his story of when, in the 1920's, he rode from the Big Bend area of Texas into Mexico and back north into Arizona gathering mustangs and any other decent unbranded horse available. It's paced like a long story told over a campfire with some bourbon. He meets Mexicans, duh, but also has some very positive dealings with the Yaqui. Light and enjoyable. Don't let the PETA people see it.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (wgCUV)

192 I finished reading Harm's Way by James Bassett, (not In Harm's Way as I reported last week,)

It was a very well - written book.

I just started reading Matchup - a collection of short stories written by male - female thriller writers.

The first story - written by Sandra Brown and C.J. Box entitled Honor & was VERY good.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (mBbsP)

193 Malcolm Muggeridge tells a story of a great German intel goof in WWII. They decided to use Wodehouse as a guide to what a Brit should be like. So they landed an agent complete with spats and monocle. Naturally, he was picked up at once. He compares it to what would happen if the Brits had parachuted in an agent smoking a giant meerschaum pipe, and wearing lederhosen.
Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 10:28 AM (59GGI)

That is very funny ! Also, very hard to believe. Many top echelon Brits were intertwined with the Germans. Many agents, including the likes of Ribbentrop were imbedded into the Brit society. Familiarity in the extreme with Brit way of life.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (9lCXX)

194 Muldoon, I just tried to comment on your limerick blog again. I can't see it, but maybe you're moderating comments?


*******


It must be something on your end. Browser perhaps?

I haven't turned on any comment filtering or altered any comments.

Yet.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (m45I2)

195 Good morning rons and Ettes. Parked in Houston today, leaving for Louisville Kentucky at 2 am then off to Morgantown WV.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (rGYKJ)

196 185 Since I am a fan of the series of books by CJ Box with the main character of Joe Pickett, who is a game warden (mostly)

Try Blanco County series by Rheder

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (wU/T1)

197 Rome fell for the same reason Sparta fell. They contracted out the wet work and scrub work to non romans and non Spartans until those people.

Sure hope history isn't repeating itself.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (2DOZq)

198 Hi... never been to the book thread before.... I started sneezing immediately....

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2018 10:35 AM (ffWPP)

199 I have a 12 year old girl who loves to read. She always asks for books for Christmas usually part of a series. The problem we have is that so many, actually almost all of the books for her age and skill are series. You simply cannot find a stand alone book for this age group. That isn't really new though, think Little House books, Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, Harry Potter. But now these series are 20 books and connected to at least one other series that has 20 books. I'm looking at you, Rick Riordan. It's great that the girl spawn loves the books and wants to read more of them but dear lord, save me from the endless $20 paperback book collections.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:35 AM (myjNJ)

200 17 4 cont
http://3decks.pbworks.com/w/page/915789/Rates
This was the other link I thought was very informative kinship rate sizes which to compare to the frigate video
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 09:11 AM (T4oHT)


A couple of things about the rating system:

1. The sizes described grew over time. When it was established under Charles I, a 40-gun ship could be a First Rate. And by the end of the sailing era, a 91 was a 2nd. What everyone uses, usually (as does that site) is that prevailing during the 7-Years, Am Revolution, and Napoleonic period.

2. The rate determined the pay rates. So Royal Yachts were officially First Rates, though they were small and (mostly) not suitable for war.

I got woke too early today. So I'll quote a Secretary of the Admiralty: And so to bed.

Posted by: Eeyore, fomerly George LeS at September 23, 2018 10:36 AM (59GGI)

201 SOE was a major channel of the cover stories for invading France. That is why Leo was never able to warn his superiors.

MFW I thought you were talking about Pope Leo, and Attila at Chlons.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:36 AM (Xk4Hx)

202 174 One other thing of consideration is that modern historians are now
taking the position that Rome "did not fall". The empire collapsed as a
single entity but individual city-states persisted and went on to form
new countries in the middle ages.

Say what? You know what I call an empire that consists of individual city-states? Not an empire.
Posted by: Odoacer at September 23, 2018 10:26 AM (T6t7i)

---------------------

"I appeal to Carthage" doesn't quite have the same ring as "I appeal to Caeser" does it?

Anyway, heh.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 10:36 AM (WEBkv)

203 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:35 AM (myjNJ)

Underlake by Kia Heavey is pretty good and age appropriate.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at September 23, 2018 10:36 AM (rGYKJ)

204 Rome fell because of debauchery and degeneracy.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:36 AM (9lCXX)

205 How could I forget the Lensman series and the modern homage series by Ryk. E .Spoor? Those rollicking books are Grand Central Arena, Spheres of Influence and Challenges of the Deep.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:37 AM (hyuyC)

206 "Thank you for that, VIA"

I share the same thoughts concerning specific threads, ie Book, gum, pet, gardening...etc.

Yet the Corgi Force is strong in the Horde.



But, I try.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 23, 2018 10:37 AM (wldC6)

207 204 Rome fell because of debauchery and degeneracy.
Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:36 AM (9lCXX)

And long division issues....

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2018 10:38 AM (ffWPP)

208 Since I am a fan of the series of books by CJ Box with the main character of Joe Pickett, who is a game warden (mostly)

He is a fave of mine as well, Charlotte.

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 10:39 AM (mBbsP)

209 As we try to keep the book thread focused on books, and not go off
topic, I encourage you to return to the Morning Thread where I just
posted a link concerning the Dr Ford letter.


Wow. I encourage everyone to take a look. It's comment 326.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (T6t7i)

210 199 I have a 12 year old girl who loves to read.

Get her a 50 dollar kindle and a library card. Many ebooks to read for free. Also can get to https://www.gutenberg.org/ for 57k free books.

much content!

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/search/%3Fsort_order%3Ddownloads

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (wU/T1)

211 Eric Flint's 1632 series has >20 novels now. Lot's of co-authors.

Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (FhXTo)

212 Well, I have tractor wheel repairs and a lot of outdoor maintenance to do.

Thank you OM, for yet another scintillating book thread, with so much goodness in the comments.


Have a blessed day, and may every traffic light turn green on your way home.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (hyuyC)

213 It's great that the girl spawn loves the books and wants to read more of them but dear lord, save me from the endless $20 paperback book collections.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:35 AM (myjNJ)
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madamemayhem, I mention this author whenever the subject of kiddie lit is brought up: Elizabeth Enright. Wonderful, wonderful books.

Bonus: she's been dead a long time, so no more are forthcoming.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (C1PQi)

214 Kyle Harper`s Fate of Rome says it fell to disease, since the medical system was more full of quacks than a Louisiana lake, and the Mediterranean system was a lot less good at responding to plague than it was at spreading it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:41 AM (Xk4Hx)

215 OK I am eating my own dog food. From last post to try Gutenberg I am going to go get 10 books and read.

any request?

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 10:41 AM (wU/T1)

216 That sells him short. The anti-Christian stuff gets
tedious, but his account of early empire is well done and arguably
remains the authoritative work on the topic.

The core issue with
Gibbon is that on a long enough timeline, everything is in decline. To
claim that loss of virtue, or the spread of Christianity was what
brought down the Empire would first require someone to have a control
case of a massive multi-national empire that somehow never fell.
[ . . . ]
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 23, 2018 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)


Kevin Gutzman is a biographer of Jefferson and Madison and writes on the Constitution and the early independence period, but he was on a podcast where they were discussing whether economic failure and mismanagement was sufficient in itself to destroy a country, and he argued that technically the catastrophic distortions brought on by Constantine's economic reforms could be blamed for the the collapse of the Byzantine empire in 1453, but he implied that he considered that a bit of a stretch.

Gutzman has a book just out called Thomas Jefferson, Revolutionary, which I haven't even gotten around to buying yet.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 10:41 AM (mUa7G)

217 And long division issues....
Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2018 10:38 AM (ffWPP)


thought they used cohorts and legions, not divisions ...

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:41 AM (9lCXX)

218 But, I try.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice



Well, good on you. And I did go back and read your politics thing in its politics place.


(Also, I just got Bowie's "Modern Love" as an earworm. But I try....

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:42 AM (fuK7c)

219 Thank you bluebell And OSP. Will take a closer look at those.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:42 AM (myjNJ)

220 any request?
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 10:41 AM (wU/T1)
---------

Summa Theologica, by St. Thomas Aquinas.

See you in about a decade.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 10:43 AM (C1PQi)

221 Posted by: Emmie at September 23, 2018 10:18 AM (4HMW

How cruel to want to "disorient" people on a subject they are already struggling with. I tell my kids that *basic* algebra is used all the time, because it's true.

My observation is that math is another language, something I saw another Hordling say recently, and there are many more bad translations out there than good translations.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 23, 2018 10:43 AM (uquGJ)

222 174 Say what? You know what I call an empire that consists of individual city-states? Not an empire.


Posted by: Odoacer at September 23, 2018 10:26 AM (T6t7i)

When most people talk about the fall of Rome they are talking about collapse in to general anarchy. That did not occur. The general discussion also talks about collapse in to the dark ages. There were no 'dark ages' as such.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 10:44 AM (mpXpK)

223 220 any request?
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 23, 2018 10:41 AM (wU/T1)
---------

Summa Theologica, by St. Thomas Aquinas.

See you in about a decade.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 10:43 AM (C1PQi)

"Confessions" St. Augustine... and all of his other works.....

Posted by: kraken at September 23, 2018 10:44 AM (ffWPP)

224 Eric Flint's 1632 series has >20 novels now.

IMO, another series where the second book didn't present anything (or at least enough) new to earn its keep.

Something in the Dresden series and also in the Easy Rawlins series (that I stopped after 3 or 4) is that the author seems to feel the need to make the character and the circumstances darker and darker. After a while, the "ick" factor pushes me away.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 23, 2018 10:46 AM (cTajt)

225 There were no 'dark ages' as such.

Whut.

Posted by: henri pirenne, bryan ward-perkins, and peter heather at September 23, 2018 10:47 AM (Xk4Hx)

226 There were no 'dark ages' as such.


Of course not. There were just several hundred years that went by without significant advancement in arts and culture, where there was no new statuary exploring the human form, where no historians chronicled events, and no one got around to discovering perspective in painting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:47 AM (fuK7c)

227 And before I go off to be productive,

Roman empire fell because someone divided by zero. That's what my history teacher told us in high school. No shit. Someone asked what caused the fall of the Roman empire, teacher said" Long answer.. there were a variety of reasons, some very simple, some more complicated, and historians tend to disagree. Short answer.. Someone probably divided by zero!"

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:48 AM (myjNJ)

228 Posted by: Professor Doctor Lawyer Christine '58 Plymouth-Ford at September 23, 2018 10:28 AM (Ndje9)

OK, this nic is funny.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 10:48 AM (aGFaW)

229 186
Regarding long series -



I once heard Orson Scott Card say he doesn't do them because there's
a definite hit to the number of sales with each additional book in the
series. On the other hand, Robert Jordan doesn't appear to have suffered
from it. And Brandon Sanderson has a long-running series that just hit
book three.



So... who knows these days.

Posted by: junior at September 23, 2018 10:25 AM (4ZkmO)


He is a fine one to talk. His Ender series and The Call of Earth are both many volume series.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 10:48 AM (mpXpK)

230 Thank you bluebell And OSP. Will take a closer look at those.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:42 AM (myjNJ)

Oh, and Kia Heavey wrote another book. A very entertaining book about a farm cat that teaches about the evils of socialism and communism called Domino.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at September 23, 2018 10:50 AM (rGYKJ)

231 Also, Michael Decker thought the Byzantine Empire suffered hard 600s-700s, from the Persian War to the Iconoclasm; and Abdolhossein Zarinkoob wrote about the dark age in Iran. "The Byzantine Dark Age" and "Two Centuries Of Silence" respectively.

I could say whom they blame for this two century long era of chaos and bloodshed, but if you guess right you become a pariah these days

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 10:52 AM (Xk4Hx)

232 211
Eric Flint's 1632 series has >20 novels now. Lot's of co-authors.


Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (FhXTo)

I abandoned that series after it became evident he was never going to finish it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 10:52 AM (mpXpK)

233 I read the entire Brother Cadfael Mystery series by Ellis Peter (nom de plume of Edith Pargeter) in the '90s, and that was about 20 books.

I kept all the paperbacks and re-read them a while back.

I think they are in a box in the attic now. I might pull them out again. They are hideously expensive (IMH) on Kindle now with prices for each title ranging from a low of $4.53 to $10.49 with most tending to the higher range of $8.99 or $9.99. I wouldn't pay that much now to read a 20-book series!

I would, however, recommend them as a series for those who could afford them or find library or used copies.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at September 23, 2018 10:53 AM (NqQAS)

234 So, I've started "The American" by Henry James.

It's annoying so far. It was on somebody's list of good stuff, possibly even Twain's list, so I thought I should give it a shot.

There was a one-two punch in which American language emerged from imitation British, and that was a left jab from Twain and a right cross from Hemingway.

James is still writing European and it bothers me. Also, he's completely above the "limited omniscience" thing, so his narrator can know everything. I'd have some hope for it if I thought our protagonist was going to bone Tristram's wife, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:58 AM (fuK7c)

235

Churchill- A Man For The Times - a limerick

He was reading "The Sum Of All Fears"
When the building came down 'bout his ears
Like the rest of the nation
He sought inspiration
And found it in "Blood, Sweat and Tears

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 10:59 AM (m45I2)

236 As a human, you only fail if you fail to learn from the fail, and fail to get up and risk failure again.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 23, 2018 10:59 AM (E3okE)

237 Alt. title: "Jack the Ripper Sizes Up His Next Victim"

It looks more like both the mustachioed gent and the winsome lass are looking askance at the artist, who has obviously just let out a book-rattling fart.

Posted by: art cricket at September 23, 2018 11:00 AM (kSECq)

238 Bonus: she's been dead a long time, so no more are forthcoming.
Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (C1PQi)


"Ooh, this is one of my favorites, check this one out. It's abou-"
"The author. Is the author stone dead?"
"N-n-no-"
"Ain't interested." *flings book back*

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:00 AM (y87Qq)

239 I'd have some hope for it if I thought our protagonist was going to bone Tristram's wife, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:58 AM


So Tristram's a cuck?

Posted by: Billy the K at September 23, 2018 11:01 AM (E3okE)

240 "The author. Is the author stone dead?"
"N-n-no-"
"Ain't interested." *flings book back*
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:00 AM


So, no John McCain books for a while, eh?

Posted by: Doncanthrax at September 23, 2018 11:03 AM (E3okE)

241
And found it in "Blood, Sweat and Tears
Posted by: Muldoon


My troubles are many, they're as deep as a well
I can swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 23, 2018 11:03 AM (IqV8l)

242 Pic needs more Burgess Meredith.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 23, 2018 11:04 AM (55orB)

243 > Eric Flint's 1632 series has >20 novels now.

Those are really uneven, IMO. A lot depends on who comes after the "and" in "by Eric Flint and..."

I gave up on them a while ago. Flint needs to become way more selective about choosing his collaborators.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 11:04 AM (TM5Iv)

244 > I abandoned that series after it became evident he was never going to finish it.

Q. How could you "finish" a series of historical novels, other than perhaps with the Second Coming of Christ?

But yeah, I gave up on them as well.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 11:06 AM (TM5Iv)

245 Blood, sweat, toil, and tears
Dwelt more kindly in history's ears
Than that bit of a hash
With sodomy and lash
From Churchill's rakishly earlier years

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 11:06 AM (fuK7c)

246 Of course not. There were just several hundred years that went by without significant advancement in arts and culture, where there was no new statuary exploring the human form, where no historians chronicled events, and no one got around to discovering perspective in painting.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 23, 2018 10:47 AM (fuK7c)


Maybe Stagnant Ages would be a better term. But that would apply to pretty much the rest of the world, and for a longer time period.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 11:08 AM (/qEW2)

247 Toil was the original drummer but the band dropped him after their first successful album.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 11:09 AM (m45I2)

248 Toil was the original drummer but the band dropped him after their first successful album.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 23, 2018 11:09 AM (m45I2)

It was for the best.

Posted by: Lancelot Link Secret Agent Chimp at September 23, 2018 11:10 AM (2DOZq)

249 The very 1970's plot twist of Three Day if the Condor is that the CIA plans for taking over other countries oil supplies was accidently read by that station which is why they all need to be murdered.This was of course the era of OPEC embargoes,gas lines and "oh no we are running out of everything!"

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2018 11:12 AM (mCMQ5)

250 That is very funny ! Also, very hard to believe.
Many top echelon Brits were intertwined with the Germans. Many agents,
including the likes of Ribbentrop were imbedded into the Brit society.
Familiarity in the extreme with Brit way of life.
Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 10:34 AM (9lCXX)


The Reich and it's myriad bureaus, offices and special groups were very divided and compartmentalized. There was deep mistrust between the old Army and nobility that reached back to the Kaiser and the ideals of the original Pan German unification, and the new Nazi elite.

Part of the problem came from both sides despising each other, being engaged in bureaucratic empire building, and planning each others' destruction or subjugation, but the other part was the wonderful habit of the elite in the government realizing that they wanted something done, but the people who did it could not be trusted to do it the way they wanted it done, so they started their own department or operations group to do it -- with the added benefit that when there is an eventual conflict over who does what and who gets funding for it, the matter would be referred to the central government and ministries, and the right people would given the plums.

The new Nazi elite were not tied into the old families and traditions, and tended to be arrogant enough to think they knew better and were smarter than anyone else.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 11:13 AM (mUa7G)

251 For those of us coping with the long term deadly decline of a loved one, please read Being Mortal by Atul Gawande. It is about hospice. Please read this. It give another perspective and it gives you a choice. Much love and prayers for anyone going through the process of losing a loved one.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 23, 2018 11:14 AM (PkVlr)

252 Eric Flint's 1632 series has >20 novels now.
Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2018 10:40 AM (FhXTo)


Around 2000 some guy subscribed to the cruffler.com Curio & Relic collectors' email list and asked some questions about what sort of stockpile of reloading components one could expect the average modern Appalachian mining town to have. I just searched the archives and it turns out it wasn't Eric Flint, but Tom V, who wrote what looks like fanfic that got included in one of the 1632 anthologies at Baen.

Anyway, I can't remember if I replied but I was a list subscriber at the time so the upshot is I guess I'm basically famous now, if anyone wants to have their picture taken with me. Am I supposed to hire a publicist or something? I don't know how any of this works.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:15 AM (y87Qq)

253 "My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through? "

----


I started reading Michael Connelly's Bosch series, because the tv show is so good. I'm on the third book. So far so good, but I'm asking that question as well.

There are 20 books in the series, and he has other series with other characters, and apparently drags them in when he needs to spice things up a bit.

I can see myself asking the question at the end of this one, and don't yet know the answer. Then if I read the next, the question will come up again. Right now it seems damn near impossible I'm going to read all 20... and there's another one about to be published, so he ain't stoppin' as long as the cash is flowin'.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:16 AM (cY3LT)

254 Kind of funny how the James Bond movies introduced so many outlandish gadgets while in the book it is made very clear how small a budget the intelligence service has.He uses a few pieces of gear but nothing like the movies.

Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2018 11:16 AM (mCMQ5)

255 I don't have to read The Decline and Fall. I'm living it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 11:16 AM (+y/Ru)

256 251 For those of us coping with the long term deadly decline of a loved one, please read Being Mortal by Atul Gawande. It is about hospice. Please read this. It give another perspective and it gives you a choice. Much love and prayers for anyone going through the process of losing a loved one.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 23, 2018 11:14 AM (PkVlr)
------
When my Dad died, slowly and unpleasantly, the hospice people were amazing. Not only to him, but to me also. Thanks for the recommendation.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 11:17 AM (MVjcR)

257 " Long answer.. there were a variety of reasons,
some very simple, some more complicated, and historians tend to
disagree. Short answer.. Someone probably divided by zero!"
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:48 AM (myjNJ)



#DIV/0!

Posted by: Kindltot -who has spent far too long with Excel at September 23, 2018 11:18 AM (mUa7G)

258 I see that book three of the Kinksters of Gore Trilogy has been released detailing the inner workings of the climate change community.

It's like the jolly green giant with a insatiable lust and a raging hard-on discovers a sperm whale and a colossal squid locked into a death embrace on an isolated beach on a remote island.

Posted by: Fritz at September 23, 2018 11:22 AM (Z9C5C)

259 I finished the Aubrey/Maturin series and was sad that it ended. Had he lived O'Brian had at least a couple of good books left about the fading of the light.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 11:22 AM (1UZdv)

260 Also if you have read House of War, I hope you can find the time to post your (honest!) opinion of that book (and not of me, we're agreed I fail as a human) on Amazon's site.

You don't fail as a human. You stepped up to serve your community, and that it worthy of respect. Yeah, you probably should have scrubbed some of that stuff a little harder from the internet, but the CO GOP are cowards and idiots. There are ways to handle bad information in a politician's past.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 23, 2018 11:23 AM (SgjGX)

261 And before I go off to be productive,

Roman empire fell because someone divided by zero. That's what my history teacher told us in high school. No shit. Someone asked what caused the fall of the Roman empire, teacher said" Long answer.. there were a variety of reasons, some very simple, some more complicated, and historians tend to disagree. Short answer.. Someone probably divided by zero!"
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 10:48 AM (myjNJ)



I've always heard it was one guy, who caused it all to collapse.

A guy named Hubris. Chet Hubris.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:23 AM (cY3LT)

262 I've been reading Master of Defense, by Paul Wagner, which is his reprint of George Silver's Paradoxes of Defence along with essays by modern scholars. I've also been reading The Intelligent Investor, since I'm way behind on my retirement funding.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 23, 2018 11:24 AM (SgjGX)

263
A guy named Hubris. Chet Hubris.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:23 AM (cY3LT)


Leo. Leo Hubris. He was Greek. As Greek as spanakopita. Or Spanaway, maybe. I forget.

Posted by: Kindltot -who has spent far too long with Excel at September 23, 2018 11:26 AM (mUa7G)

264 New legal theory bouncing around: Ford delivered her letter to Anna Eschoo and not Feinstein directly because arcane legalese states that "evidence" presented to a Senate committee from another Congressional office does not have any risk of perjury attached to it.

Which is not something Ford would have known without help. The same helpers who scrubbed her entire digital footprint, no doubt.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 23, 2018 11:26 AM (55orB)

265 Author Lee Child -

"Both Reacher and I are tall. So back in the '90's , while writing Killing Floor and grocery shopping, my wife remarked "if the writing didn't work out I could always be a reacher in a supermarket."

Posted by: JT at September 23, 2018 11:27 AM (mBbsP)

266 Now browsing "The Brown Derby Cookbook", a compilation of recipes from the famous restaurants in LA. Hollywood hangout. At their height in the 30s-50s.

Hungarian Veal Cutlets with Spaetzels Polonaise...

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 23, 2018 11:27 AM (CeJUf)

267 @261
Could that be Earl?

I ask because I blame everything on some really dumb, really stoned, totally fictional idiot named Earl. No matter what it is, if it goes wrong, Earl said that's how it was supposed to be done.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 23, 2018 11:28 AM (myjNJ)

268 Ms. Powell is indeed brilliant. Too bad Hannity interrupts when she's a guest on her show.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (CWvyb)

269 Most bizarre thing happened to me about hour and half ago. Yesterday when leaving work noticed a yellow jacket flying in My truck so rolled windows down while driving and didn't see it for a while, rolled windows up and thought nothing of it. Went to grocery store, didn't get indoor 10 feet and got stung right on my knee. I am sure it was that yellow jacket but didn't see it. Sohadtowalk around store for a hour,came home put groceries away before taking Benadryl and have ice pack on my knee.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (T4oHT)

270 before taking Benadryl and have ice pack on my knee.
Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 11:29 AM (T4oHT)


You aren't by any chance from Alabama en route to Louisiana?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:31 AM (y87Qq)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 11:31 AM (mUa7G)

272 I'm convinced that the yellow jacket performs no role in any ecosystem that some other insect could manage. Extinct them. Make them something you have to read about, like smallpox.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 23, 2018 11:31 AM (55orB)

273 Hungarian Veal Cutlets with Spaetzels Polonaise...

=

ohhhh, sounds really good

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 11:32 AM (bUjCl)

274
Buzzbombs, they simply bored him
Explosions he always ignored them
He never got antsy
When reading his fancy
That began "Dear Penthouse Forum..."

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 11:34 AM (CRRq9)

275 Picture 1: "Burgess Meredith: The Early Years"

Picture 2: "Brett Kavanaugh's Grandfather"

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2018 11:34 AM (sdi6R)

276 > I finished the Aubrey/Maturin series and was sad that it ended. Had he lived O'Brian had at least a couple of good books left about the fading of the light.

I was really glad that in the (unfinished) 21st novel, Maturin finally appeared to be with someone who could make him genuinely happy. Diana had borderline personality disorder, IMO.



Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 11:34 AM (TM5Iv)

277 3 Days of the Condor seemed like a spy thriller at the time. Now we recognize it as real life.

Posted by: kallisto at September 23, 2018 11:34 AM (CWvyb)

278 273, runner - veal cutlets, butter, paprika, chopped onion, pastry cream, brown gravy, salt, and pepper. Then on to the spaetzels. Imma gonna try this one.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 23, 2018 11:35 AM (CeJUf)

279 A guy named Hubris. Chet Hubris.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:23 AM (cY3LT)

Leo. Leo Hubris. He was Greek. As Greek as spanakopita. Or Spanaway, maybe. I forget.
Posted by: Kindltot -who has spent far too long with Excel at September 23, 2018 11:26 AM (mUa7G)



Sure sure sure, Leo. His given name was Leo, but his friends knew him as Chet.

Which obviously you weren't.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:36 AM (cY3LT)

280 if we're talking about hubris leading to the final fall of the Roman system, I nominate the first Justinian.

The second Justinian was an arrogant tool too.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 11:36 AM (Xk4Hx)

281 Yellow jackets are the a-holes of the insect world.

Posted by: bananadream at September 23, 2018 11:36 AM (YR7aL)

282 "My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through? "

----


I started reading Michael Connelly's Bosch series, because the tv show is so good. I'm on the third book. So far so good, but I'm asking that question as well.

There are 20 books in the series, and he has other series with other characters, and apparently drags them in when he needs to spice things up a bit.

I can see myself asking the question at the end of this one, and don't yet know the answer. Then if I read the next, the question will come up again. Right now it seems damn near impossible I'm going to read all 20... and there's another one about to be published, so he ain't stoppin' as long as the cash is flowin'.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:16 AM (cY3LT)



i stopped reading shortly after he left the force.

I thought the quality fell.

Still, every series has it's slump. Rebus is a good example.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 23, 2018 11:37 AM (CRRq9)

283 "Diana had borderline personality disorder, IMO."

She was an early Bad Bond Girl.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 11:37 AM (1UZdv)

284 Imma gonna try this one

@Skookumchuk,

If you need a taste taster... I am right here ! No charge.

Posted by: runner at September 23, 2018 11:38 AM (bUjCl)

285 The mosquito is high on my Animals We Don't Need list. I am pretty sure that Rachel Carson's real motive wasn't in saving birds but in killing Africans

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 23, 2018 11:38 AM (Xk4Hx)

286 Bath time for kitties.

https://bit.ly/2xJmNXU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)

287 Luckily been getting my Aubrey/Maturin series at used book store but am at mercy of what is there when I get to them, missed Nutmeg of Consolention. I keep looking for Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe series (have 1 on E-book) but they never seem to get there.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 11:40 AM (T4oHT)

288 The new Nazi elite were not tied into the old families and traditions, and tended to be arrogant enough to think they knew better and were smarter than anyone else.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 11:13 AM (mUa7G)


Gee, I'm glad we have nobody like that in this country nowadays.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 11:41 AM (aGFaW)

289 Bath time for kitties.
https://bit.ly/2xJmNXU
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 23, 2018 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)


Are the cats being bathed, or is the person being punished?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:42 AM (y87Qq)

290 285 Dennis Prager thanks Leftists for ending DDT use.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 11:42 AM (T4oHT)

291 285
The mosquito is high on my Animals We Don't Need list.

Disagree.

Posted by: Bats at September 23, 2018 11:42 AM (T6t7i)

292 "Ooh, this is one of my favorites, check this one out. It's abou-"
"The author. Is the author stone dead?"
"N-n-no-"
"Ain't interested." *flings book back*
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:00 AM (y87Qq)
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Now, now. You're taking that out of context. Poor madamemayhem was lamenting that most kids' books come in wicked long series and she was tired of shelling out big bucks.

I wish, oh how I wish, that Elizabeth Enright had lived longer and written more books.

Posted by: bluebell at September 23, 2018 11:43 AM (C1PQi)

293 290 Cont for keeping the mosquito on the planet. They have killed and sicked millions.

Posted by: Skip at September 23, 2018 11:44 AM (T4oHT)

294 There's a scientist named Schmidt who created a scale of pain for insect bites, many he self-inflicted.

Yellow jackets are a 2, above the ordinary, Which he described as "hot and smoky, almost irreverent. Imagine W. C. Fields extinguishing a cigar on your tongue."

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 11:44 AM (1UZdv)

295 254 Kind of funny how the James Bond movies introduced so many outlandish gadgets while in the book it is made very clear how small a budget the intelligence service has.He uses a few pieces of gear but nothing like the movies.
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2018 11:16 AM (mCMQ5)
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This is a constant bitch in the excellent series "The Sandbaggers". One of the agents says to Hell with it, I'm joining the CIA!".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 11:47 AM (kQs4Y)

296 ". I remember reading some years ago that during WWII, the Germans tried to ruin Britain's economy by flooding the country with counterfeit £5 notes, but it didn't work. And one of the reasons was because the people saw all of this money lying around on the street so they picked it up and turned it in to the authorities."

Catch the movie "The Counterfeiters" if you can.

Posted by: I M Simpleton at September 23, 2018 11:47 AM (jQBOW)

297 Princess Diana went out of the way to visit the ickiest scabbiest people and actually touched them.

Posted by: I Cried at September 23, 2018 11:47 AM (loZXu)

298 294 There's a scientist named Schmidt who created a scale of pain for insect bites, many he self-inflicted.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 11:44 AM (1UZdv)


Most peoples' kinks have to do with sex, but whatevs.

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2018 11:48 AM (sdi6R)

299 Yes. Also, I've noticed the same thing about Glenn Greenwald. For example, on Twitter this morning he remarks:

"Even
after everything we've seen, NYT columnists still mistake their highly
insular homogenized friends' views for pervasive sentiment."

Going after his erstwhile buddies for living in a bubble is not going to get him invited to their parties.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at September 23, 2018 10:16 AM (aGFaW)

I wonder if we are witnessing the start of a preference cascade?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 11:50 AM (iwUO9)

300 Alt. title: "Jack the Ripper Sizes Up His Next Victim"




Jack looks like a ponce

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 23, 2018 11:53 AM (SiINZ)

301 (29 Publish or Perish.

Posted by: ro-man at September 23, 2018 11:55 AM (RuIsu)

302 There's a scientist named Schmidt who created a scale of pain for insect bites, many he self-inflicted.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 23, 2018 11:44 AM (1UZdv)


Also in the annals of "hold my beer for science", a toxinolgist tested irukandji jellyfish stings on his 9 year old son and a lifeguard (presumably they volunteered, I guess, sure, let's say that). Irukandji stings cause severe headache, backache, muscle pains, chest and abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting, sweating, anxiety, hypertension, tachycardia, pulmonary edema, and a feeling of "impending doom". Patients have been reported as being so certain they are going to die, they beg their doctors to kill them to get it over with. Usually they just wait it out, it takes about a day or so (in some cases a few weeks).

Irukandji jellyfish are about the size of a pea and are completely transparent, so they're really hard to see. Guess where they live? Go on, guess.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:59 AM (y87Qq)

303
Back from Mass and shopping. Peaceful Sunday, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 12:00 PM (LsBY9)

304
feeling of "impending doom"

I have that every day and have not been stung by one.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 23, 2018 12:02 PM (LsBY9)

305 Irukandji jellyfish are about the size of a pea and are completely transparent, so they're really hard to see. Guess where they live? Go on, guess.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:59 AM (y87Qq)


In the ocean?

Posted by: rickl at September 23, 2018 12:03 PM (sdi6R)

306 Irukandji jellyfish are about the size of a pea and are completely
transparent, so they're really hard to see. Guess where they live?


Congress? They'll blend right in.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 12:04 PM (T6t7i)

307 C-Span2 has about an hour of Coulter mingling at a cocktail party for her book, hanging with Alex Marlow (host and editor in chief at Breitbart).

She's smart, quick, fun ... and seems to know everybody. And Ann has said how she hangs with so many liberals ... which is apparently essential to being a mover and shaker, yet she manages to maintain (what I'd call) one of the most practical conservative postures (overall).

the more formal intro starts at 38 minutes.

youtube.com/watch?v=0OCjIOsU_pM

Posted by: illiniwek at September 23, 2018 12:06 PM (Cus5s)

308 "My question is, does anyone really read a long series like this all the way through? "


Sharpe's Rifles... all... Honor Harrington... new one out next month, all up to now. David Drakes Cinnibar stuff, yes..

Dorsai series? yes... all the original Tarzans and Conans (although not some of those follow on written by other authors...

Yes, I read enough that I LIKE long series.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Neanderthal of LaMunchies at September 23, 2018 12:06 PM (NgKpN)

309 In the ocean off the coast of Irukandji?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (MVjcR)

310 "Irukandji jellyfish inhabit the northern marine waters of Australia."

Because of course they do.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)

311 Also in the annals of "hold my beer for science", a toxinolgist tested irukandji jellyfish stings on his 9 year old son and a lifeguard (presumably they volunteered, I guess, sure, let's say that). Irukandji stings cause severe headache, backache, muscle pains, chest and abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting, sweating, anxiety, hypertension, tachycardia, pulmonary edema, and a feeling of "impending doom". Patients have been reported as being so certain they are going to die, they beg their doctors to kill them to get it over with. Usually they just wait it out, it takes about a day or so (in some cases a few weeks).

Irukandji jellyfish are about the size of a pea and are completely transparent, so they're really hard to see. Guess where they live? Go on, guess.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 11:59 AM (y87Qq)


Hmmm.... second look at interrogation methods?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Neanderthal of LaMunchies at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

312 According to wikipedia, yellowjackets prey on other insect species, so they are beneficial to agriculture.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at September 23, 2018 12:11 PM (/qEW2)

313 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at September 23, 2018 12:12 PM (5jVnA)

314 Yellowjackets might be beneficial somehow, but they're still assholes.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)

315
"Irukandji jellyfish inhabit the northern marine waters of Australia."



Because of course they do.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)

If there were natural justice in this world, they would inhabit Chrissy Edsel's swimming pool.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 12:13 PM (iwUO9)

316 Wow. Just found some ancient road flares (60's?) Pa stored in the back of a cabinet in the shop. Any guesses on the probability of combustion after a half century of storage?

Books good. Tarzan read. Gibbon bad.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 23, 2018 12:14 PM (e1mEI)

317 "Irukandji jellyfish inhabit the northern marine waters of Australia."

Because of course they do.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)


And on the sixth day, God piled up all the leftover murder and, when nobody was looking, put it all in Australia.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:16 PM (y87Qq)

318 Yellowjackets might be beneficial somehow, but they're still assholes.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)

With yellowjackets and other insect pests, perhaps the answer will be not to extinct them, but to alter their genome such that they fear and avoid humans at all costs.
Except roaches. Extinct them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 12:16 PM (iwUO9)

319 Guess where they live? Go on, guess.

Planet Arrakis?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 12:16 PM (UFLLM)

320 316 Wow. Just found some ancient road flares (60's?) Pa stored in the back of a cabinet in the shop. Any guesses on the probability of combustion after a half century of storage?

Books good. Tarzan read. Gibbon bad.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 23, 2018 12:14 PM (e1mEI)
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Have anyone handy to hold your beer?

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:16 PM (MVjcR)

321 317 "Irukandji jellyfish inhabit the northern marine waters of Australia."

Because of course they do.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)

And on the sixth day, God piled up all the leftover murder and, when nobody was looking, put it all in Australia.
Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:16 PM (y87Qq)


So that's where Cain ended up?

Posted by: Don Quixote, Neanderthal of LaMunchies at September 23, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

322 "Irukandji jellyfish inhabit the northern marine waters of Australia."

Because of course they do.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)


Why, it's almost as if the continent doesn't want people living there.


Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 12:17 PM (cY3LT)

323 My Truth: How I Learned About Rape Through Recovered Memory by Dr. Christine Crazy-Ford

Posted by: Super Thin Books at September 23, 2018 12:18 PM (v1udk)

324 Wow. Just found some ancient road flares (60's?) Pa
stored in the back of a cabinet in the shop. Any guesses on the
probability of combustion after a half century of storage?



Books good. Tarzan read. Gibbon bad.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 23, 2018 12:14 PM (e1mEI)

Probably still good. The manufacturers put a heavy, heavy coating of wax on them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 23, 2018 12:18 PM (iwUO9)

325 has anyone written a book on a heist using drones? you know, like "the doberman gang", only the crooks send drones to a bank (depository, 7/11, wtvr), that demand money be put in attached bags and off they fly. option to hollywood in 3,2,1...

Posted by: mjc, the very, at September 23, 2018 12:18 PM (Pg+x7)

326 These pants.

Deep in the murky recesses of my memory I recall seeing a very similar pair of pants. And I do mean pair. As in two. Yes. Someone actually made two of them. And moreover, convinced two people to buy and wear them.
Mid 80's it was. In the Middle East.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 12:18 PM (0tfLf)

327 Ya'll need to go to Amazon per #1 above and address that... nobody had done so until I went a few minutes ago...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at September 23, 2018 12:18 PM (UFLLM)

328 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:19 PM (mpXpK)

329 Yellowjackets might be beneficial somehow, but they're still assholes.
Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)


Same with spiders. I know you kill all sorts of things I don't want around, but you look like you came out of hell.

Please go back there.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 12:19 PM (cY3LT)

330 Madame -- Age appropriate, but not insulting to a kid's intelligence --

Cornelia Funke (quite a few), James Patterson and co-authors for the Maximum Ride series, Butcher's Chicago Wizard, Odom and his 'library' trilogy, the Paolini Eragon series, Jinks Evil Genius series --

All are literate and action-filled and not much weirdness for younger people and the ones my 12yo (now 21) enjoyed. How about earlier Pratchett, as well?

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

331 > And on the sixth day, God piled up all the leftover murder and, when nobody was looking, put it all in Australia.


In most places in the world, venomous snakes are not the norm. The vast majority of snake species are non-venomous and thus totally harmless.


Australia, by contrast, has only one species of non-venomous snake.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (TM5Iv)

332


313 Book nerds!
Posted by: Ogre at September 23, 2018 12:12 PM (5jVnA)


/looks a the collection a Fencing Manuals, sitting under his crossed Rapiers...

/sniffs..

Yes, so effete...

Posted by: Don Quixote, Neanderthal of LaMunchies at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (NgKpN)

333 Australia, by contrast, has only one species of non-venomous snake.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (TM5Iv)


Probably constantly getting its lunch money taken by the other snakes.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 12:21 PM (cY3LT)

334 Downdrins.
I shall endeavor to use this word in conversation at least five times today.

Excellent word!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 23, 2018 12:22 PM (0tfLf)

335 Australia, by contrast, has only one species of non-venomous snake.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 12:20 PM (TM5Iv)


I didn't know that, but it seems so right. How could it be otherwise?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:22 PM (y87Qq)

336 287 ... Skip, I had the same problem with the Aubrey series, Horation Hornblower books and Cornwell books. Just keep looking or check your local library. I managed to find almost all the O'Brian books at one tme a couple of years ago. Same with the Hornblower and Sharpes series recently. Most were under two bucks. I was in the right place at the right time.

What I haven't found yet is that Beatrix Potter Tales series by Susan Albert. I managed to get the first two but haven't seen any of the others at all and they are not especially cheap even on Amazon. Sooner or later I'll luck out. But there are some series that just don't get traded at the used book stores very often.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 12:23 PM (V+03K)

337 Yellowjackets might be beneficial somehow, but they're still assholes.

Posted by: Weasel at September 23, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)


Totally this.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 23, 2018 12:23 PM (9Om/r)

338 316 Wow. Just found some ancient road flares (60's?) Pa stored in the back of a cabinet in the shop. Any guesses on the probability of combustion after a half century of storage?

Books good. Tarzan read. Gibbon bad.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 23, 2018 12:14 PM (e1mEI)

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Are you sure they are road flares? Back in the sixties, explosives were much easier to get a hold of from what I understand.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at September 23, 2018 12:23 PM (WEBkv)

339 > I didn't know that, but it seems so right. How could it be otherwise?

That's what I'd heard, but on checking it's apparently not true. The Northern Territory (i.e., jungly almost-New Guinea) has several species of python and other snakes that are non-venomous.

It does appear to be true of the red deserty regions of Australia, though.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 12:31 PM (TM5Iv)

340 Are you sure they are road flares? Back in the sixties, explosives were much easier to get a hold of from what I understand.

Is it crescent-shaped, with "Front Towards Enemy" printed on it? If so, yes, that's a flare.

Posted by: pep at September 23, 2018 12:34 PM (T6t7i)

341 That's what I'd heard, but on checking it's apparently not true.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 23, 2018 12:31 PM (TM5Iv)


And now I'm disappointed in Australia.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 23, 2018 12:35 PM (y87Qq)

342 "Front Towards Enemy" would make a great t-shirt.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at September 23, 2018 12:38 PM (kQs4Y)

343 338
316 Wow. Just found some ancient road flares (60's?) Pa stored in the
back of a cabinet in the shop. Any guesses on the probability of
combustion after a half century of storage?



Books good. Tarzan read. Gibbon bad.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 23, 2018 12:14 PM (e1mEI)




Flambos should still be good as long as you can get fuel for them. Kerosene I think. I don't know about those flares that have stakes on the bottom that you hammer in.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 23, 2018 12:39 PM (mpXpK)

344 The past couple of weeks I've been reading science fiction short story anthologies rather than novels. I just finished one called Galactic Empires, edited by Neil Clarke (of Clarkesworld magazine fame). The stories are all original to this collection (I think), and it's an attempt to update the classic sci-fi trope. Lots of slower-than-light empires and people "uploading" themselves across interstellar distances.

The stories are mostly pretty good. None really knocked it out of the park, but they were all solid work. Not a lot of liberal seat-kicking, which is good.

The worst offender was about a Woman Anthropologist studying a long-isolated world who uncovers the Powerful Truths about the local human society that her Male Chauvinist Boss overlooked. It would have been ground-breaking stuff about fifty years ago.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 23, 2018 12:41 PM (4mD7U)

345 It's an appropriate photo at the top.
We could provide similar in Ottawa this weekend, after the two tornadoes passed through Friday afternoon.

It was surreal driving to Costco this morning, traffic lights still out, all the other stores around it closed, but they are up and running on generator power.

We were lucky, one started a run a couple miles from our house, but we were without power for 22 hours, and you can hear the chainsaws running as uprooted trees are being cleared.

Posted by: Asko at September 23, 2018 12:51 PM (AaSf0)

346 After reading the squib from the "law professor" who believes "credible allegations" are disqualifying, I've decided to re-read To Kill a Mockingbird with that in mind.

At a function a lib guest brought up the "credible allegations" theory and I said "you mean like the credible allegations against Tom Robinson in To Kill a Mockingbird? So you're into old time southern justice? I did not expect that."

Curious silence.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 23, 2018 12:57 PM (fYr5Q)

347 @158 --

JTB, I agree with you on the "M*A*S*H Goes" books. Loved those, although I think the series was sputtering with "Montreal" and "Moscow."

However, I also love Hornberger's original "M*A*S*H." The TV series was in full Alda mode when I got the book, and I found it to be quite a change to read about the doctors shooting out the tires on Shaking Sammy's Jeep.

Shame that Duke was written out of the show.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 23, 2018 01:01 PM (P0CqY)

348 Sure sure sure, Leo. His given name was Leo, but his friends knew him as Chet.



Which obviously you weren't.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 23, 2018 11:36 AM (cY3LT)


Well. I am completely unacquainted with Hubris.

*preens*

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 01:01 PM (mUa7G)

349 Maybe late to this party but I have some thoughts on long series novels.

They aren't about character development. In fact, character development (or drift as fans sometimes call it) is death to a series.

People go back to read long series because the characters do NOT change. Think Rex Stout, Agatha Christie, Robert E. Howard...hell, even Don Pendleton.

Iconic characters who do not mutate are comforting. They're reliable. They're a known quantity. You go back to read about their adventures.

Lois McMaster Bujold is a great example of the problem with character development. Her space opera series (starting with Shards of Honor and really getting going with The Vor Game) was extremely popular. You had good bad guys, complex and frankly tortured protagonist, sex, shooting, space battles....and then it began to change.

The character of Miles began to change, to grow up certainly, but he changed, the society changed, the bad guys changed and...it fell apart.

The writing was still good, Lois Bujold is a damn fine writer, I own most of her stuff, but it wasn't sci fi or fantasy anymore. It was, more or less, a simulation of real life.

And a lot of readers don't read Sci Fi and Fantasy for realism. We wanted Miles to go on having space adventures, outwitting the bad guys and dealing with an active but fraught love life. We wanted to have that epic romance intact that his parents had.

But instead Miles...quit. He stopped having space adventures. He settled down, got a job, stopped being the main character of the series, really. And his parents were killed and then their relationship was revealed to have devloved into an ugly bisexual menage with a rando character introduced in the last Miles novel.

Mutation and change. You can keep it.

Give me a interesting character and give him interesting problems WITHOUT him changing or having important point of view or lifestyle changes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, well-armed dreg of society at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (xJa6I)

350 As for books, I got some Doug TenNapel graphic novels.

He's a damn fine writer, a bit of an asshole, a committed Christian...two of which are rare in comic book artists/writers.

I also bought the first Goshawk novel, on moron rec from last week!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, well-armed dreg of society at September 23, 2018 01:11 PM (xJa6I)

351 [i[Give me a interesting character and give him
interesting problems WITHOUT him changing or having important point of
view or lifestyle changes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, well-armed dreg of society at September 23, 2018 01:08 PM (xJa6I)

Pratchett got around that by bringing in secondary characters and make subsequent books about them.

Ponder Stibbons was pretty much a throw away student in Moving Pictures, for example.

Have to admit that the Rincewind arc was getting silly by the third or fourth book, and Granny Weatherwax could get a bit much too.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 23, 2018 01:15 PM (mUa7G)

352 249 ... "People go back to read long series because the characters do NOT change. Think Rex Stout, Agatha Christie, Robert E. Howard...hell, even Don Pendleton."

Oh yeah. I would add the Matt Helm series. The circumstances for the characters may change, such as getting married or having kids, but the attitudes and approach of the characters shouldn't change. While not a requirement, a regular setting can be part of that. The New York brownstone, the sitting room at Baker street, even the familiar home and settings on Martha's Vineyard can add to the appeal.

Posted by: JTB at September 23, 2018 01:31 PM (V+03K)