Report: Tillerson Fired Because He Was Directly Undermining Trump's Efforts to Get Europe to Agree to Tougher Positioning on Iran

Trump's position on the Iran Deal is apparently this: If the European states which used to join us in economic sanctions before Obama let them out of it agree to force Iran to agree to actual inspections, performed by people called "Not the Iranian Government itself," of suspected nuclear sites, and agreed to limitations on ballistic missile technology, etc., then Trump would go along with the Iran Deal for a while.

It was Rex Tillerson's job to go out to the European states and sell them on this.

Instead, of course, he walked back from what Trump was demanding and instead made softer offers he was never authorized to make -- to appease Iran.

You know -- gross insubordination of the actual chief foreign policy officer of the United States. And also, appeasement of Iran, in a way that the TruCon Crying Eagle Brigade like to pretend they're opposed to.

The abrupt firing Tuesday of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson follows months of infighting between the State Department and White House over efforts by Tillerson to save the Iran nuclear deal and ignore President Donald Trump's demands that the agreement be fixed or completely scrapped by the United States, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation who spoke to the Washington Free Beacon.

In the weeks leading up to Tillerson's departure, he had been spearheading efforts to convince European allies to agree to a range of fixes to the nuclear deal that would address Iran's ongoing ballistic missile program and continued nuclear research.

While Trump had prescribed a range of fixes that he viewed as tightening the deal's flaws, Tillerson recently caved to European pressure to walk back these demands and appease Tehran while preserving the deal, according to these sources. The Free Beacon first disclosed this tension last week in a wide-ranging report.

White House allies warned Tillerson's senior staff for weeks that efforts to save the nuclear deal and balk on Trump's key demands regarding the deal could cost Tillerson his job, a warning that became reality Tuesday when Trump fired Tillerson by tweet.

Yesterday, the conspiracy theorists all proposed their newest conspiracy theory (which apparently occurred to them all nearly spontaneously) that Trump had fired Tillerson because Tillerson had endorsed the UK's conclusion that Russia had attempted to assassinate a defector living in Europe, and Trump couldn't have anyone saying anything about Vlad.

Apparently these geniuses did not know about the long-simmering tension about the Iran Deal (though the Free Beacon says they reported on just that last week).

And look at that -- they did report on it last week.

Iran is undertaking a massive buildup of its ballistic missile program, sparking fears of a "second Holocaust" amid sensitive international negotiations that could see the Trump administration legitimize Iranian missiles capable of striking Israel, according to multiple sources familiar with ongoing diplomatic talks.

As the Trump administration and European allies continue discussions aimed at fixing a range of flaws in the landmark Iran nuclear deal, sources familiar with the progression of these talks say the United States is caving to European demands limiting restrictions on Iran's ballistic missile program.

While the Trump administration went into the negotiations with a hardline stance on cutting off Iran's ballistic missile program, it appears the United States [that is, Tillerson -- ace] is moving closer in line with European positions that would only regulate a portion of the missiles.

Multiple sources with knowledge of the ongoing talks told the Washington Free Beacon U.S. officials [Tillerson] have been backpedaling on key demands originally proposed by President Trump in order to preserve the agreement and appease European allies who are eager to continue doing business with Tehran.

Senior Trump administration officials recently told the Free Beacon the United States is prepared to abandon the nuclear deal if European allies fail to address what it views as a range of flaws in the nuclear deal that have enabled Iran's missile buildup and allowed it to continue critical nuclear research.

However, it appears the United States is losing ground in the talks, moving closer to the European position, which includes what insiders described as only cosmetic changes to the nuclear deal that fail to adequately address Iran's massive missile buildup.

But the #SmartSet [citation needed] didn't know any of this, and just did their #TwitterHotTakes and claimed Tillerson was fired on Putin's orders.

You know -- like MSNBC and HuffPo bloggers did.

They pose as the #SmartSet, but you'll notice they do not reason -- they seethe. They are motivated, like the shittier class of bloggers tend to be, by little more than emotion, primarily anger and hate.

Oh, and conspiracy theorizing. Lots and lots of uniformed, childish conspiracy theorizing.

Oh, and also, fellas -- Trump endorsed the UK's claims about Russia attempting the assassination, too.

Strike two against your conspiracy theory:



Oh, and one more point -- as Conservative Review points out...

Third, and this is really where the "Putin told Trump to fire Rex" narrative is exposed as utter idiocy, Mike Pompeo is tougher on Russia than Tillerson and has been so for years.

Indeed, the Conspiracy Theorists objected to Tillerson back when he was floated as a nominee precisely because, they claimed, he was too close to Russia.

But now swapping him out for Cold Warrior Mike Pompeo is some kind of favor to Putin!

Strike three.

Read more, tweet less.

Think more, seethe less.

And dial it down on the conspiracy theories. Just because your TwitterPalz agree with your conspiracy theories does not render them into something other than conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories often attract a broad range of emotionally-embittered people who all agree vociferously with the conspiracy theory the group has nuttered itself into believing.

By the way, Adam Schiff has told me to invite you guys to apply to his House investigation staff. He says he likes the cut of your respective jibs and would further like to subscribe to your newsletters.

Oh, and as you make your final official exits from conservative politics, you might want to drop off a resume at Jezebel. I think you'd get on well with them.

Posted by: Ace at 12:28 PM




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1 What a turd that Tillerson is.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 12:24 PM (Iz8Py)

2 First?

Posted by: lin-duh @ work, really...I'm working at March 14, 2018 12:24 PM (9iLHi)

3 Ok back to lurking

Posted by: lin-duh @ work, really...I'm working at March 14, 2018 12:25 PM (9iLHi)

4 Feeling a bit grey here.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:26 PM (+Dllb)

5 Tillerson / Lamb 2020!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (JTMqu)

6 well, this is why new admins have turn over. You can't have a zero defect mentality. You'll eventually find the right people for the job.

The lunacy of the left, tho...Jesus Christ.

They have a narrative and it's anchored around only one position, "everything is bad for Trump all the time".

Also, side note, apparently, today is a anti-NRA event day organized by the DNC and publicized by the media with the DNC's remaining public sector union thug shock troops using your children as the pawns.

Posted by: Clarence at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (V3U1L)

7 >>>Conspiracy theories often attract a broad range of emotionally-embittered people who all agree vociferously with the conspiracy theory the group has nuttered itself into believing.

True.

Posted by: Some Dumbass at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (y4k7n)

8 Plus this guy doesn't have the stones for the coming NORK go-round.

Nice move Trump

MAGA

Posted by: redenzo at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (14qvS)

9 AOS 2 shades of grey

Posted by: BluesFish at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (Hpr/1)

10 also, FINALLY!

Schiff has recognized my vital helps to his investigation. Just wondering tho, is there a dress code? Can I show up to work at noon?

Posted by: Clarence at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (V3U1L)

11 Ahhh.... conspiracy theories???

I see the Greys have finally taken over...

Posted by: Don Q. at March 14, 2018 12:28 PM (NgKpN)

12 50 shades of Ewok?

Posted by: Iblis at March 14, 2018 12:28 PM (9221z)

13 Tillerson was all breathless during his closing remarks. I wonder what he had staked on undermining our President.

There had to be at least ONE backroom deal going on.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM (Iz8Py)

14 >>>>>Tillerson recently caved to European pressure to walk back these
demands and appease Tehran while preserving the deal, according to these
sources.
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.So tillerson refused to do what the Boss told him to do and he got fired.

Wonder how long it will take the liberals to come up with something resembling "obstruction of justice" and say Trump had no right to fire him.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM (+Dllb)

15 Local news says that a local high school with 2500 students had....30 turn out for the big anti-gun walkout.

Our oldest just rolled his eyes when we told him what would be happening the next day at his school. He has my cynicism.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM (oVJmc)

16 well, this is why new admins have turn over. You can't have a zero defect mentality.

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+1. I've been trying to remember Chicago Jesus firing some of his picks during his eight years. Strangely, I can't. It's almost like the jobs were there for the cronyism first and the country second.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:30 PM (JTMqu)

17 One administration sucking up to Iran was excessive enough without Rex carrying it further.

Btw, has his idiot father hijacked Rand Paul's Twitter account with all the neocon rants?

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2018 12:30 PM (y7DUB)

18 Will these people ever tire of sucking each others dicks?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:30 PM (MLOHI)

19 "...economic sanctions before Obama let them out of it..."
...........

B.O. sure was stinking the place up.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2018 12:30 PM (HgMAr)

20 Directly opposing the boss on policy is a firing offense everywhere.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - help us, pixy misa, you're our only hope! at March 14, 2018 12:31 PM (e11dj)

21 So Putin ordered the Donald to marry Melania? Good lord, he really IS a SooperSpy!

Posted by: joncelli, going phalangist at March 14, 2018 12:31 PM (RD7QR)

22 OT, willowed:

395 171 If there are an infinite number of universes, does that mean that there is one where Hillary is president?
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018

*
*
Yes . . . but it's far away from here, and no transportation is available.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 14, 2018 12:31 PM (PLO14)

23 Wonder how long it will take the liberals to come up with something resembling "obstruction of justice" and say Trump had no right to fire him.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM (+Dllb)

Conspiracy to Defraud the US Government by Obstruction of Foreign Policy.

Posted by: Meuller and Rosenstein..... at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (NgKpN)

24 Lol. At the private school one of my family members teaches at they told the kids if they walked out, to keep walking.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (MLOHI)

25
I heard Hillary had a gray box.

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (OZmbA)

26 Local news says that a local high school with 2500 students had....30 turn out for the big anti-gun walkout.


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Oh crap. If International Womans Day finds out then she's going to be pissed that we were looking at another march.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (JTMqu)

27 Iran is undertaking a massive buildup of its ballistic missile program,

Funded in part by TFG. *spits*

Fuck that guy to hell.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (NWiLs)

28 Gross insubordination and I don't give a fuck if he got fired with a Tweet or whatever.He needed to be gone ASAP.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (LiyEm)

29 But-but-Lawrence Tribe says Putin ordered Rexxon fired because he turned out to not be a good puppet.

What to believe, what to believe...

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (Dn4Uq)

30 Why didn't Tillerson leave the White House in handcuffs?

Posted by: garrett at March 14, 2018 12:32 PM (Lgfvm)

31 18 Will these people ever tire of sucking each others dicks?
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:30 PM (MLOHI)

I warn them, but do they listen? No.

Posted by: Winston Wolf at March 14, 2018 12:33 PM (RD7QR)

32 If there are an infinite number of universes, does that mean that there is one where Hillary is president?


Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018


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Yes . . . but it's far away from here, and no transportation is available.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 14, 2018 12:31 PM (PLO14)


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You have to take the stairs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:33 PM (JTMqu)

33 Don't they have to be man hating lesbian leftists to work at Jezebel?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 14, 2018 12:33 PM (ujg0T)

34 But the narrative that Drumpf is a Russia-loving doody-head!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:33 PM (W+vEI)

35
>> Will these people ever tire of sucking each others dicks?


Sigh*


I hope not.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at March 14, 2018 12:34 PM (OZmbA)

36 15 Local news says that a local high school with 2500 students had....30 turn out for the big anti-gun walkout.

Our oldest just rolled his eyes when we told him what would be happening the next day at his school. He has my cynicism.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM (oVJmc)

Central Calif here.... Kids were told if they walked out of class, they would automatically get 'Saturday School'... ie.. what we used to call... detention...

Only ones making a big deal out of this... is the bought and paid for media...

Posted by: Don Quixote, at March 14, 2018 12:34 PM (NgKpN)

37 Willowed from the previous thread :

What's with the bump or lump on the grip safety on the Trump 1911? I've seen that recently on a couple of new pistols. Is it supposed to improve the feel or grip or something?

Posted by: Iowa Bob, totally not a Russian BOT at March 14, 2018 12:35 PM (tu3iY)

38 I think Trump should call a meeting of NATO countries to discuss what to do about Russia systematically murdering enemies in every state, regardless of borders or who else gets hurt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 12:35 PM (39g3+)

39 When the fuck did the SoS get the Constitutional authority to conduct his own foreign policy?

This was not like gee, this is what our allies counter offered.
It was taking a position contrary to what the president told him.

Just curious- did Tillerson tell the board to fuck off when he was at Exxon?

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (MLOHI)

40 Tillerson was a mistake from the beginning and he should have been fired when that became immediately apparent. Conservatives hated him.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (mpXpK)

41 Is Jezebel still a Thing?

My autocorrect thinks it should be "Jeb even". Not a good sign, bro.

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (6LsBn)

42 >>>>>Willowed from the previous thread :



What's with the bump or lump on the grip safety on the Trump 1911?
I've seen that recently on a couple of new pistols. Is it supposed to
improve the feel or grip or something?




Posted by: Iowa Bob, totally not a Russian BOT at March 14, 2018 12:35 PM
.
.
.It's the grip safety.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (+Dllb)

43 Gray!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (mtfdF)

44 The movie 'Conspiracy Theory' with Mel Gibson was difficult for me to watch because, at the time, I was a conspiracy nut.

I'm better now and realize that just because a theory sounds logical doesn't make it true.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (roQNm)

45 So Rex has some free time on his hands now?

Free time...for a dollar dance?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner gyrating in a thong - now sweaty too! at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (40enR)

46 What conspiracy theories is ace referring to?

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (y7DUB)

47 Sounds like Obamacare. Trump wants to gut it, Rex and the smart set RINOs want to strenghten it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (f16Ot)

48 Rand Paul has announced the he will not vote for confirmation of either Pompeio or the CIA nominee. The same for Juan McBraintumor.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (Fs5vw)

49 15
Local news says that a local high school with 2500 students had....30 turn out for the big anti-gun walkout.
...........

Maybe they should have a walkout protesting epic government failure instead.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (HgMAr)

50 >>I've been trying to remember Chicago Jesus firing some of his picks during his eight years. Strangely, I can't.


That would require Obama actually meet with them. Seem to recall there were 1+ year gaps between Obama meeting with some in his cabinet. You can't be a hands-on boss if you only earn abut bad stuff done by your team on the evening news. And then he'd say he couldn't comment on open investigations, until all the facts are available, blah blah blah. MSM moves on, no stories = no scandal, so no firing.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (W+vEI)

51 44. Still got a padlock on your fridge, though, dontcha?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (fA1SL)

52 Saturday School, hah, we called it Extra Lesson.

no, we didn't learn anything. we had to write a stupid essay for two hours on why we were naughty, naughty little boys.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (6+jja)

53 32 If there are an infinite number of universes, does that mean that there is one where Hillary is president?


Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018


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Yes . . . but it's far away from here, and no transportation is available.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 14, 2018 12:31 PM (PLO14)


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You have to take the stairs.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:33 PM (JTMqu)

Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: Archer at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (gbWkA)

54 >>45 So Rex has some free time on his hands now?

Free time...for a dollar dance?
Posted by: Anthony Weiner gyrating in a thong



No offense, but I'm going to pass on the sweaty Tony Weiner balls.

Posted by: Anderson Cooper at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (OZmbA)

55 I originally though Hellary slipped off her sandal in an act of girlish insouciance, but really it's 'cause she trusted the tread on her crusty feet better than what was on the soles of her footwear.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (Iz8Py)

56 Local news says that a local high school with 2500 students had....30 turn out for the big anti-gun walkout.


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I'd love for someone to follow up and find out how many students are out sick each day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (JTMqu)

57 What is Rand's problem?Never mind,I know.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 12:39 PM (LiyEm)

58 Will these people ever tire of sucking each others dicks?
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Who the hell gets tired of sucking dick? WTF?

Posted by: Shep! at March 14, 2018 12:39 PM (vg8iE)

59 46 What conspiracy theories is ace referring to?"

In the context of this thread, the idea that Trump only does what makes Putin happy. Bill Kristol was self righteously tweeting about that again yesterday.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 12:39 PM (k1TUh)

60 48 Rand Paul has announced the he will not vote for confirmation of either Pompeio or the CIA nominee. The same for Juan McBraintumor.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (Fs5vw)

1. Recess appointment

2. Wait for McCain to retire/shuffle off this mortal coil

3. Vote again after elections.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:39 PM (RD7QR)

61 Tillerson was a mistake from the beginning and he should have been fired when that became immediately apparent. Conservatives hated him.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (mpXpK)
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Hey Condi Rice & another deep state swamp rat pushed him. what could go wrong

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (y3aQB)

62 No offense, but I'm going to pass on the sweaty Tony Weiner balls.

Anderson Cooper


How about now?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner's Codpiece at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (NF2Bf)

63
Haven't been over there lately, does anyone know if CNN is still torturing the Russian collusion narrative?

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (OZmbA)

64 After what weve learned re: Obama, Fusion, FBI....no conspiracy theory sounds crazy anymore. At least politically speaking. The Alien baby stuff...probably still fake news

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (f16Ot)

65 >>>20 Directly opposing the boss on policy is a firing offense everywhere.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - help us, pixy misa, you're our only hope! at March 14, 2018 12:31 PM (e11dj)
__________
Not at my office. I like hard pressed opposition..

Posted by: Anthony Weiner gyrating in a thong at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (40enR)

66 Rex On
Rex Off

Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (/tuJf)

67 That would require Obama actually meet with them. Seem to recall there were 1+ year gaps between Obama meeting with some in his cabinet. You can't be a hands-on boss if you only earn abut bad stuff done by your team on the evening news. And then he'd say he couldn't comment on open investigations, until all the facts are available, blah blah blah. MSM moves on, no stories = no scandal, so no firing.

Posted by: Lizzy

there was never a "fire the subordinate" box for Obama to check off.

I'm sure there was some turnover. People, responding to the insane lefts' glee over every trump firing, have noted the body counts each previous admin racked up. Trump's cromulent with past admins.

Posted by: Clarence at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (V3U1L)

68 TruCon Crying Eagle Brigade


please let there be t-shirts

Posted by: x at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (nFwvY)

69 Still got a padlock on your fridge, though, dontcha?

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Can't be too careful, and nothing GMO.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (roQNm)

70 I originally though Hellary slipped off her sandal in an act of girlish insouciance, but really it's 'cause she trusted the tread on her crusty feet better than what was on the soles of her footwear.

Reptilian claws have better grip than slick leather? Who knew?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (Hk/NM)

71 That moron better not try this with me.
Can you spell impeachment?

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (KOaTi)

72 So, DNC 2018 midterm election themes:

NRA=KKK
filibustering for illegals
Ban ICE
Everyone is Hitler

sounds like a winner.

Posted by: Clarence at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (V3U1L)

73 The school walkout thing was originated with the Women's March freaks. Its not hard to get schoolkids to skip class though. I just think most schoolkids are smart enough to realize that it would accomplish zero and looks idiotic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (39g3+)

74 68 TruCon Crying Eagle Brigade


please let there be t-shirts
Posted by: x at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (nFwvY)

Put that over a Three Wolf Moon graphic.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (RD7QR)

75 70 I originally though Hellary slipped off her sandal in an act of girlish insouciance, but really it's 'cause she trusted the tread on her crusty feet better than what was on the soles of her footwear.

Reptilian claws have better grip than slick leather? Who knew?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at March 14, 2018 12:40 PM (Hk/NM)

I thought she had cloven hooves.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (NWiLs)

76 Still got a padlock on your fridge, though, dontcha?
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They tried that with me. I simply ate it too.

Posted by: Oprah at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (vg8iE)

77 Rand Paul is probably objecting to Pompeo's proposed Waterboarding Wednesdays at Foggy Bottom policy.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (hMwEB)

78 Wasn't Pompeo already approved by the US Senate?
-As CIA Director.

Why does he need the Senate stamp of approval again?

Posted by: rd at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (4dz1m)

79 75. Cephalopods don't have hooves.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (fA1SL)

80 >>Haven't been over there lately, does anyone know if CNN is still torturing the Russian collusion narrative?


It's all 'Stormy with a chance of sucked balls', I guess?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (W+vEI)

81 "50 >>I've been trying to remember Chicago Jesus firing some of his picks during his eight years. Strangely, I can't."

Obama had a party that agreed with him 100% and was dedicated to doing everything he (and Valerie Jarrett) asked them to do, no matter what.

Trump is still dealing with a party that under the scenes still hates him and wants to sabotage everything he does. It's hard to tell who's actually loyal until they display it with their actions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (k1TUh)

82 You're not going to get Europe to get tougher on Iran.

Won't happen.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (4ErVI)

83 >>>No offense, but I'm going to pass on the sweaty Tony Weiner balls.
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (OZmbA)
___________
Then get over here and dry em off big boy

Posted by: Sweaty Anthony Weiner gyrating in a thong at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (40enR)

84 79 75. Cephalopods don't have hooves.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (fA1SL)

I got this.

Posted by: Dr. Moreau at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

85 If there are an infinite number of universes, does that mean that there is one where Hillary is president?
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Nope.

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 12:42 PM (6LsBn)

86 >>>Reptilian claws have better grip than slick leather? Who knew?

Not on hard surfaces like stone steps.

Posted by: Hillary's Inner Reptile at March 14, 2018 12:43 PM (djCea)

87 I thought she had cloven hooves.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (NWiLs)


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Looking at that video, and basing my observation only on leg shape, I'm guessing each leg ends in large circular bases like an elephant's.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:43 PM (JTMqu)

88 Are there still crying taters in their cars over at state?

Posted by: Archer at March 14, 2018 12:43 PM (gbWkA)

89 77
Rand Paul is probably objecting to Pompeo's proposed Waterboarding Wednesdays at Foggy Bottom policy.





Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (hMwEB)
Waterboarding Wednesdays to replace casual Fridays, yes? The state department personnel could do with some toughening up.

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2018 12:43 PM (a0IVu)

90 77 Rand Paul is probably objecting to Pompeo's proposed Waterboarding Wednesdays at Foggy Bottom policy.

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (hMwEB)

Well, I guess that means no Testicle Crush Tuesday.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (RD7QR)

91 ace you are Hero of Anti-Socialist Labor for so gloriously disassembling these idiots, but I don't think "reading more" will help any of them.


They're not very smart. Or, at least, "effectively" smart. The kind of wordly smart that snickers with derision at the idiotic Tillerson-as-Putin-guy idea to start with.


I find Tillerson's performance puzzling. As others have noted - what did he think he was going to do here? Impossible to believe he wasn't clear - crystal - on Trump's requirements WRT JCPOA. Yet he goes off and tries to engineer some fait accomplis or something with which to trap his boss?


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (OkKDg)

92 I thought she had cloven hooves.

Satan was getting tired of people thinking she was related to him and requested that joke be discontinued.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (Hk/NM)

93 My local rag is orgasmic over the walk outs today. I have the breaking news alert set up and have jad 3 alerts already today about it. Skool kids sez gunz is icky and need to be banned.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (f16Ot)

94 55 I originally though Hellary slipped off her sandal in an act of girlish insouciance, but really it's 'cause she trusted the tread on her crusty feet better than what was on the soles of her footwear.
Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018

*
*
Suddenly I'm not hungry for my lunch any more. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (PLO14)

95 I thought she had cloven hooves.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 12:41 PM (NWiLs)

The tunic she wore looked like one of those made in India cotton bedspreads the hippies used to decorate their cribs. You know, that blockprint shit?
So she did pull a modified Justine Trudeau move.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (Iz8Py)

96 Where o come from waterboarding the enemy is a resume enhancer.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (MLOHI)

97 http://bit.ly/2FH2qx9
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Rep. Slaughter hospitalized for concussion after fall
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when you are 88 & you start falling that is a death Rattle. not that a R. would win the seat anyways

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (y3aQB)

98
Lauren Southern denied entry into UK and detained and questioned for possible terrorism. Asked if she was a 'Christian extremist.'


UK: the new and improved Soviet Union

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (OZmbA)

99 *stubs out a smoke*

*Reaches for second pack of Kools*

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (MDTfy)

100 As I said about Marching Orders in a Hierarchical Organization:

(I) One person sets policy.
(II) That person is not you.
(III) If there is any confusion, see (I), supra.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Protect Your Despair with Gloom Guard Polish & Sealer! Only at The Outrage Outlet! at March 14, 2018 12:45 PM (hLRSq)

101 That would require Obama actually meet with them. Seem to recall there were 1+ year gaps between Obama meeting with some in his cabinet. You can't be a hands-on boss if you only earn abut bad stuff done by your team on the evening news. And then he'd say he couldn't comment on open investigations, until all the facts are available, blah blah blah. MSM moves on, no stories = no scandal, so no firing.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:38 PM (W+vEI)


One of my lib friends acquaintances used to rail on Slick for very rarely having cabinet meetings. I told her it was because he was a terrible executive because he didn't know how to effectively delegate things because he had to be hands on so the MFM would slavishly report on how fucking brilliant he was. Plus he was completely disorganized like most perverts.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2018 12:45 PM (y7DUB)

102 59 46 What conspiracy theories is ace referring to?"

In the context of this thread, the idea that Trump only does what makes Putin happy. Bill Kristol was self righteously tweeting about that again yesterday.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 12:39 PM (k1TUh)

----

Laurence Tribe tweeted some similar insanity too.
Tillerson was an "unreliable" Putin Puppet!

Posted by: rd at March 14, 2018 12:45 PM (4dz1m)

103 From previous thread:

Welp, Rand Paul just announced that he'll not only oppose Pompeo and Haspel, but do everything in is power to block both of them.

Let the grandstanding begin.

Posted by: WisRich


I believe Pompeo has already gone through confirmation hearings and does not have to repeat them for a lateral move.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 14, 2018 12:45 PM (LOgQ4)

104 President Trump stated that the United States stands in solidarity with its closest ally and is ready to provide any assistance the United Kingdom requests for its investigation.

Considering what a bunch of time-servers, hacks and outright dunces make up our "intelligence" agencies, May would be better off hiring Inspector Clouseau.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 12:45 PM (kqsXK)

105 MFM has become a raging dumpster fire of PsyOp Meme wars. They want website hits and Twitter trending.

And they get a lot of help from the SJW kids that adjust the metrics is the algorithms they use to boost leftist comments and blockade "conservatives". That happens on Google results, on Facebook and Twitter ... and Google oversees You-Tube as well, defunding or blocking even the most polite conservatives.

The internet bill of rights seems necessary. They have essentially become telecoms with monopoly power, but with an ability to censor based on metadata (I say, without knowing details of "metadata" style censorship)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (bT8Z4)

106 98
Lauren Southern denied entry into UK and detained and questioned for possible terrorism. Asked if she was a 'Christian extremist.'


UK: the new and improved Soviet Union
Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (OZmbA)

I'm more interested in entry into Lauren Southern.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

107 Maybe some of these teachers should help the children understand what, shall not be infringed, means.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (MLOHI)

108 So tillerson refused to do what the Boss told him to do and he got fired.

Wonder
how long it will take the liberals to come up with something resembling
"obstruction of justice" and say Trump had no right to fire him.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM
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Hmmm... that's a very interesting point you have there.

Posted by: Justices of the 9th Circuit Court at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (t41dG)

109 98 Yeah,those Christian terrorists have been racking up quite the body count...

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (LiyEm)

110 i guess what gets me, Is the same people that would have wrote three years ago , re Russia, Re Iran, Re borders, ignore that Trump is actually had committed to addressing those issues, Yet all they STILL do is bitch .

It's like being married to a nag, all the time nag, nothing done is enough. Ever.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (/ikqi)

111 >>Lauren Southern denied entry into UK and detained and questioned for possible terrorism. Asked if she was a 'Christian extremist.'




Meanwhile, London Mayor Saddiq Khan spoke at SXSW Festival in Austin, demanding US social media/tech companies Do SOMETHING about hate speech. He wants to export the UK's literal policing of online speech.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (W+vEI)

112 It really is a lose-lose situation for PDT

These asshats think they are righteous for opposing him, and his best option is to fire them.

But to fire them, makes them feel justified in being asshats.

It really is a blessing that PDT has such self-fortitude. I expected him to cave the way arnold in CA did. After some setbacks, arnold put the dems in charge and flew back to Hollywood.

(I think that is one of the reasons he seems to hate PDT.)

But PDT is a BSD from queens, and ain't nobody pissing in his coffee.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (LWu6U)

113 and those things being Done, aren't even noticed but lied about.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (/ikqi)

114 Meanwhile, London Mayor Saddiq Khan spoke at SXSW Festival in Austin, demanding US social media/tech companies Do SOMETHING about hate speech. He wants to export the UK's literal policing of online speech.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:46 PM (W+vEI)

A GFM with fascist proclivities? The hell you say.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (NWiLs)

115 99 *stubs out a smoke*

*Reaches for second pack of Kools*

Posted by: Barack Obama

*opens it from the bottom*

Posted by: x at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (nFwvY)

116 98
Lauren Southern denied entry into UK and detained and questioned for possible terrorism. Asked if she was a 'Christian extremist.'


UK: the new and improved Soviet Union

Posted by: Sphynx at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (OZmbA)

Southern loves a microphone. I wonder if Brittney Pettibone has Southern's footprints on her back.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (4ErVI)

117 Maybe some of these teachers should help the children understand what, shall not be infringed, means.
==========

Pfffft. We're even fucking dumber than the kids!

Posted by: Teachers at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (vg8iE)

118 Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2018 12:45 PM (y7DUB)

Why would cabinet meeting be necessary when all policy directives were being handed down from the NWO demunist handlers?

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (Iz8Py)

119
What's with the bump or lump on the grip safety on the Trump 1911?
I've seen that recently on a couple of new pistols. Is it supposed to
improve the feel or grip or something?

Posted by: Iowa Bob, totally not a Russian BOT at March 14, 2018 12:35 PM
.
.
.It's the grip safety.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (+Dllb)

I'm asking about the bump at the top of the grip safety. I'm used to seeing a smoothly curved grip safety, with no bump. Recently I've seen several new pistols with the bump, Colts, I believe, and I wondered why it was there.

Posted by: Iowa Bob, totally not a Russian BOT at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (tu3iY)

120 A child understands what insubordination means.

Apparently the children are smarter than true cons and most of the media.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:48 PM (MLOHI)

121 Clarence @72 - don't forget:


raising taxes
last prez candidate barfing up increasingly bizarre offensive crap about the electorate


Based on the fundamentals, the Dems should be heading for annihilation in November. Even accounting for the inertia of politics, incumbency, etc.


And that's even without an effective GOP. Which, more or less, appears to be the case.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 14, 2018 12:48 PM (OkKDg)

122 The only thing Rex Tillerson ever brought to the table was a bad ass sounding name.

Like HR McMaster

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 12:48 PM (40enR)

123 Well, I guess that means no Testicle Crush Tuesday.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (RD7QR)

Is January no longer Jumper Cable Month?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 14, 2018 12:48 PM (aVYsC)

124 Great post ace, nailed it!

Posted by: WeBoned! at March 14, 2018 12:48 PM (EfEQe)

125 btw i'm not really for kicking tillersn while He's done for. Yet Iran ? srsly how easy was this In Our nations interests?

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (/ikqi)

126 I was unaware that "range of flaws" was spelled "unsalvageable klusterfuk".

Posted by: pep at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (ob52i)

127 Hmm if only we could have predicted that Trump would fire people. We would have had to have had a pretty big clue, though. Something on the order of a famous two word catchphrase.

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (6LsBn)

128 FBN: Kudlow offered NEC head job.

Posted by: Tami Commenter at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (Enq6K)

129 I thought PDT fired Tillerson because AG Rod Rosenstein declined to prosecute perjurer and fellow co-conspirator James Clapper......

Guess the two-legged wildlife here in Costa Rica have distracted me from the REAL palace intrigue.

Posted by: Economically useless and malignantly aggrieved at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (5BVHO)

130 Has Bill Kristol weighed in on this yet? I do not want to formulate an opinion until he checks in.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (MLOHI)

131 Tillerson was fired for not being a reliable Putin puppet, because Tillerson tried to save the deal with the Russian client Iran.

Posted by: davidt at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (djCea)

132 In other words Trump is being very nice in his words about the Tillerson firing by saying he likes him and they just had some disagreements on some policies.

And yet these dipshits think that Trump can't be diplomatic in his words.

If Trump were just going to shoot off his mouth and speak the truth it would have been: "This prick was playing footsie with Iran and is being a borderline treasonous undermining prick. He's lucky I only fired him and didn't toss his ass in jail."

Posted by: buzzion at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (lKs2v)

133 Judges have said Trump cant sign an EO, he cant undo an EO. So maybe he cant fire a cabinet member either. I mean why not? In the minfs of Hawaiian judges the president cant take a shit without their permission.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (f16Ot)

134
Of course the children don't want to walk out.
More then 10 miles away.

:: polishes nails ::

Posted by: Splitting Bananas With My Mind at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (LOgQ4)

135 A "deal?" How is getting ass-raped with nothing in return a deal?

The "deal" allows European firms to resume selling Iran the means to cut all our throats. That was the beginning and the end of it. Follow the money. Every US official involved got bribed, we just don't know how yet.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (eqQL8)

136 My "favorite" take on this situation so far has got to be from loony Laurence Tribe of Harvard Law fame.


https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/973734587984699393


@tribelaw: "It looks like Russia picked Tillerson to be a Putin puppet,
then pushed Trump to fire Tillerson when he proved to be an unreliable
puppet. No mystery there."




I mentioned elsewhere, but when contradictory information is used as confirmation of the same initial premise, you're not talking logic anymore. You're talking religion.



Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 12:50 PM (rP4OC)

137 You had one job, Rex.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:50 PM (MLOHI)

138 123 Well, I guess that means no Testicle Crush Tuesday.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:44 PM (RD7QR)

Is January no longer Jumper Cable Month?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 14, 2018 12:48 PM (aVYsC)

Yes, that one is always very festive, like Dental Drill December!

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:51 PM (RD7QR)

139 The Muslim convert Jihadist who stabbed a 13 year old boy to death once claimed to be a white supremacist.



The msm can now cover the story.









Posted by: girldog at March 14, 2018 12:51 PM (g5YYQ)

140 @tribelaw: "It looks like Russia picked Tillerson to be a Putin puppet,

then pushed Trump to fire Tillerson when he proved to be an unreliable

puppet. No mystery there."

Them Harvard guys are wicked schmart!

Posted by: tu3031 at March 14, 2018 12:52 PM (O5Q3r)

141 I'm having more fun watching PDT Presidentin'. Glad I voted for him!

Posted by: hobbitopoly at March 14, 2018 12:52 PM (MX7xj)

142 This is a legitimate question, not snark.

Is the Trump Colluded With Russia To Steal The Election From Hillary theory falsifiable?

Is there any information or evidence that would be accepted by those who are pushing this theory that would show the theory to be false?

Because if not, then it's not a theory. It's an article of faith.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 14, 2018 12:52 PM (mf5HN)

143 Never trust the Persians

Posted by: Alexander at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (gbWkA)

144 130 Has Bill Kristol weighed in on this yet? I do not want to formulate an opinion until he checks in.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (MLOHI)

Too busy in the sauna with Lawrence Tribe and Egg McMuffin.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (RD7QR)

145 >>>Southern loves a microphone. I wonder if Brittney Pettibone has Southern's footprints on her back.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (4ErVI)
__________
Lauren Southern is legitimately gorgeous. Unlike say Katie Pavlich who only has young and usually-not-fat going for her. Yet Pavlich gets slobbered over on here for some reason.

I don't get it.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (rFCD6)

146
TruCons prefer the smoothly-operating, "scandal-free" administration that ran the country into the ground.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (b6LCz)

147 @tribelaw: "It looks like Russia picked Tillerson to be a Putin puppet,

then pushed Trump to fire Tillerson when he proved to be an unreliable

puppet. No mystery there."

---

Inexplicably, Tillerson can run faster than Trump and one would think he could've easily avoided this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (JTMqu)

148 Grille rainbows abruptly fired 24 hours after he publicly stated that it was highly likely that Russia was behind the 3 nerve gas attacks in Britain
Putin did not like that
Trumps response to those terror attacks had been tepid

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (COixt)

149 PROOF!

Posted by: Chaos in The White House Media Narrative at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (Zhc6h)

150 "The Muslim convert Jihadist who stabbed a 13 year old boy to death once claimed to be a white supremacist."

It's odd that he never killed anyone when he was a white supremacist.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (aVYsC)

151 Well clearly, he only chose Pompeo to be a figurehead exactly because he is so tough on Russia. If you're Putin, that's exactly the kind of person you'd pick to put us off the trail. But we're the Smart Set and didn't fall for that clever ploy! We insist that you pick a Pro-Russia SoS, for precisely this reason!

-Bill Krystol, probably

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (mk7Bj)

152 "133 Judges have said Trump cant sign an EO, he cant undo an EO. So maybe he cant fire a cabinet member either. I mean why not? In the minfs of Hawaiian judges the president cant take a shit without their permission."

That was actually a part of the huge part of the fight between the post-war Radical Republicans and Andrew Johnson, and what helped lead to his impeachment. Johnson's cabinet tried to say that they were independent of him and could do whatever they wanted, and he had no authority to fire them after they'd been confirmed.

At least people quickly realized that was a very bad idea, no matter who was President.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (k1TUh)

153 The smart play would have ben to fire him today. The raging outrage on pmscnnbc yesterday might jave brought a few hundred voters out in pa18. Who knkws?

But either way, the news today would have blunted the MSM end zone dancing today, plus the anti gun school crap.

No Republican, including Trump, ever seems to plan these things right.

Posted by: #neverskankles at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (f16Ot)

154 Reminder: Ace really hate teh ghey jokes but will just about tolerate them if they are at least humorous. I bring this up because I sense a reckoning in our future.

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (6LsBn)

155 Yes, that one is always very festive, like Dental Drill December!

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:51 PM (RD7QR)

and Waterboarding Awgust?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (70cRb)

156 >>I'm having more fun watching PDT Presidentin'. Glad I voted for him!



Heh. Well, you can't drain the swamp without being willing to fire people. Let that be a message to everyone still at State.

Trump is moving at such a pace that he doesn't have time to wait for Tillerson to get on board with the 'Hey, maybe Iran shouldn't have nukes' plan. Bye Felicia!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (W+vEI)

157 >>>144 130 Has Bill Kristol weighed in on this yet? I do not want to formulate an opinion until he checks in.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (MLOHI)

Too busy in the sauna with Lawrence Tribe and Egg McMuffin.
Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (RD7QR)
_______
DID SOMEONE SAY SAUNA!?!?!

Posted by: Anthony Weiner now naked! at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (ttajY)

158 153 Nope,he needed to be fired immediately for his insubordination.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (LiyEm)

159 148. Grille rainbows.
**
That's what freed the fish, man.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (fA1SL)

160 If the populace had any sense right now, Schiff-head would be working the graveyard shift at Jack-in-the-Box, and never be able to get a job better than fry cook again in his life.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (WDCYi)

161 It seems that some people can come to adulthood and STILL have a problem getting that correlation is not causation.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (RD7QR)

162 http://bit.ly/2HzufIk
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Gaffney: After Tillerson's Ouster as Secretary of State, "Next Order of Business Is H.R. McMaster Must Go"
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Yes Frank !!

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (y3aQB)

163 isn't Tribe some kind of Manchurian SCOTUS Candidate? I mean as long as we're noticing shit.

Posted by: x at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (nFwvY)

164 It's amazing to watch the (D)s openly demand nuclear war with Russia because their candidate lost an election.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (JTMqu)

165 152 Yes,it was a totally unconstitutional law they used.Funny thing is they had ample grounds to impeach without using that stupid shit.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (LiyEm)

166 Schiff has crossed the line from "partisan rhetoric trying to damage enemies" to "demented crank who can't shut up about his ridiculous obsession"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (39g3+)

167 Problem remains that the Iran containment strategy, which was working far better than could have been expected (mostly a credit to Dubya), has nukes and missiles only as a rationale.


The obvious objective, and the only thing that can actually achieve "non-proliferation" goals, is regime change. Which is vital anyway.


Iran since '79 has been the worst, bloodiest, most effective global terrorism and vandalism actor. They are careful (not reckless like Saddam or sloppy like Qadhafi/Ghaddafy/Kadafy). They actually have a blended national/cultural/ideological basis for their chauvinism - they're not just another gangster regime.


Regime change is vital. But it's just about impossible to achieve. So containment/weakening is the next best option. Which is what the sanctions were about.


The Obama catastrophe on Iran was a catastrophe because -


1) it discarded a remarkably effective containment/weakening operation that had taken years to establish, against the reckless stupidity of Europeans and the daunting challenge of isolating a country like Iran


2) nukes


3) ballistic missiles


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (OkKDg)

168 Has anyone put cartoon sound effects to Hillary slipping on the steps yet?

Posted by: Archer at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (gbWkA)

169 >>>151 Well clearly, he only chose Pompeo to be a figurehead exactly because he is so tough on Russia. If you're Putin, that's exactly the kind of person you'd pick to put us off the trail. But we're the Smart Set and didn't fall for that clever ploy! We insist that you pick a Pro-Russia SoS, for precisely this reason!

-Bill Krystol, probably
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 12:54 PM (mk7Bj)
__________

This vindicates the Washington Consensus!!!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg's non-existent masculinity at March 14, 2018 12:57 PM (ttajY)

170 PROOF!


Posted by: Chaos in The White House Media Narrative at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (Zhc6h)


Firing Tillerson should be the Anti-Chaos; now the world knows *exactly* who is setting administration foreign policy and who are just the messenger boys with awesome titles.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Protect Your Despair with Gloom Guard Polish & Sealer! Only at The Outrage Outlet! at March 14, 2018 12:57 PM (hLRSq)

171 164 It's amazing to watch the (D)s openly demand nuclear war with Russia because their candidate lost an election.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (JTMqu)

True that. I've talked about this with some people numerous times.

We should have plants in every Dem townhall this fall asking about this.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 12:57 PM (4ErVI)

172 Addendum: Their candidate lost an election AND the whole gay adoption thing.

Oh no you dint!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (JTMqu)

173 Lauren Southern is legitimately gorgeous. Unlike say Katie Pavlich who only has young and usually-not-fat going for her. Yet Pavlich gets slobbered over on here for some reason.

I don't get it.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (rFCD6)


Correct. You do not get it.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (Fs5vw)

174 Rep. Slaughter hospitalized for concussion after fall


Remember the Slaughterhouse Rules? Karma's a bitch.

F her. She was a key component of the unconstitutional Obamacare force-thru.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (Dn4Uq)

175 McMaster should be the next to go.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (r9UYA)

176 166 Schiff has crossed the line from "partisan rhetoric trying to damage enemies" to "demented crank who can't shut up about his ridiculous obsession"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (39g3+)

Schiff-head is Maxine Waters, if Maxine Waters was capable of speaking English.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (WDCYi)

177 I have to wonder at the energy spent by so many to preserve a deal which aids the number one source of terror in the world.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (7ZVPa)

178 Remember the chick that ran his golf courses and was on The Apprentice at first? She wrote a book without telling him first. Gone. Immediately.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (70cRb)

179 Sources say that the context of sources say is questionable.

Anyway, trying to get Europe to agree with Trump is about as easy as an amputee winning a game of Twister.

Tillerson should have never been SOS in the first place but I don't fault him for failing to get Europe on board. He just sweetened the pot too much in that attempt which made it look like he was trying to undermine Trump.



Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 14, 2018 12:59 PM (A4DFu)

180 Teresa May can't stand up to Brussels, and has a national epidemic of official apathy to the rape and murder of girls at the hands of Sadiq Khan's coreligionists. I doubt very much she can do more than talk.
And I repeat - where's the proof, any proof, that Russia did this? There is none. The 'lab' that tested the samples is also the largest repository of nerve agents on western Europe. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 12:59 PM (fA1SL)

181 167 The Obama catastrophe on Iran was a catastrophe because -


1) it discarded a remarkably effective containment/weakening operation that had taken years to establish, against the reckless stupidity of Europeans and the daunting challenge of isolating a country like Iran


2) nukes


3) ballistic missiles


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 14, 2018 12:56 PM (OkKDg)


Until you remember that King Barry wanted someone, ANYONE (though ValJar prefers Iran) to nuke Flyover Country.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (WDCYi)

182 177
I have to wonder at the energy spent by so many to preserve a deal which aids the number one source of terror in the world.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (7ZVPa)

It's a real mystery.

Posted by: Numerous Off-Shore Bank Accounts at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (djCea)

183 He says he likes the cut of your respective jibs
=============================


Got a 150% genoa with your name on it, pencilneck

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (VWsDy)

184 >>>177 I have to wonder at the energy spent by so many to preserve a deal which aids the number one source of terror in the world.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (7ZVPa)
____________
Saudi Arabia?

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (ttajY)

185 I'm surprised we don't have a Hillary dance by now. I'm thinking we could just rename the Worm Dance the Hillary Dance.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (2LelM)

186 131 Tillerson was fired for not being a reliable Putin puppet, because Tillerson tried to save the deal with the Russian client Iran.
Posted by: davidt at March 14, 2018 12:49 PM (djCea)

...

Right.

He was giving away the game. You have to ACT like you're not a puppet, or you'll look like a puppet and everyone will know.

But firing him for not acting like a puppet is also a giveaway, so we're soooper smart and have them figured out either way.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (yL25O)

187 Rush: Kudlow to replace Cohen.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (r9UYA)

188 isn't Tribe some kind of Manchurian SCOTUS Candidate? I mean as long as we're noticing shit.
Posted by: x at March 14, 2018 12:55 PM (nFwvY)


He's the guys the libs who write for New York Review of Books spank it while imagining him on the Supreme Court. They used to do it for Mario Cuomo before the big meatball started harvesting Satan's garlic fields.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (y7DUB)

189 Also, side note, apparently, today is a anti-NRA event day organized by the DNC and publicized by the media with the DNC's remaining public sector union thug shock troops using your children as the pawns.

Posted by: Clarence at March 14, 2018 12:27 PM (V3U1L)

I was horrified this morning watching the local news showing elementary school children marching around their school with anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area). Who the fuck would make little kids do this?

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (vkS2Z)

190 Rexxon was a bad choice to begin with. Should have gone with the Stache

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (OLCnA)

191 This is a legitimate question, not snark.

Is the Trump Colluded With Russia To Steal The Election From Hillary theory falsifiable?

Is there any information or evidence that would be accepted by those who are pushing this theory that would show the theory to be false?

Because if not, then it's not a theory. It's an article of faith.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 14, 2018 12:52 PM

I like your brain.

Posted by: LASue at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (Z48ZB)

192 185 I'm surprised we don't have a Hillary dance by now. I'm thinking we could just rename the Worm Dance the Hillary Dance.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (2LelM)

"Do the Hillary!"

*everyone falls on the floor and thrashes about*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (4ErVI)

193 185 I'm surprised we don't have a Hillary dance by now. I'm thinking we could just rename the Worm Dance the Hillary Dance.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (2LelM)


More like Elaine Benes on Seinfeld.

Posted by: Tami Commenter at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (Enq6K)

194 Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 12:59 PM (fA1SL)


Huh! You are the first I've seen who questions whether or not Russia was behind the attack. This is new to me.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (roQNm)

195 Posted by: kathysaysso at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (vkS2Z)

SATAN!?!

Posted by: Church Lady at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (pzA2L)

196 187 Rush: Kudlow to replace Cohen.
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Sweet. I loved Captain Karl.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (2LelM)

197 By the way, Adam Schiff has told me to invite you guys to apply to his House investigation staff.

Wow. He's really sticking his neck out on this one.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (vtcmf)

198 I like your brain.
Posted by: LASue at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (Z48ZB)


Thank you!

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (mf5HN)

199 189 I was horrified this morning watching the local news showing elementary school children marching around their school with anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area). Who the fuck would make little kids do this?
Posted by: kathysaysso at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (vkS2Z)

I feel like you answered your own question by having the words "SF Bay Area" in your post.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (WDCYi)

200 I was horrified this morning watching the local news
showing elementary school children marching around their school with
anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area). Who the fuck would make
little kids do this?

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (vkS2Z)


---

This is where the NRA needs to spend some money. If it's legal for them to do that, then it's legal for pro-Constitution parents and kids to do the same. Demand it, and sue the heck out of everyone if it's refused.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 01:02 PM (JTMqu)

201 I know people who worked for trump. The dude is a terminator, he just does not accept failure in his subordinates , and you WILL dot every I and cross every T. If you don't do what you're told you are fucked. Nice guy, but does not fuck around.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (aMlLZ)

202 Looks like Larry Ludlow will be the new economic advisor

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (OLCnA)

203 >>Rexxon was a bad choice to begin with. Should have gone with the Stache

Never would have gotten through the Senate.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (/tuJf)

204 I was horrified this morning watching the local news showing elementary school children marching around their school with anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area). Who the fuck would make little kids do this?

Posted by: kathysaysso


I'm amazed that there are any schoolchildren in the SF Bay area. All of the turkey-basted variety with two Moms?

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (LOgQ4)

205 I was horrified this morning watching the local news
showing elementary school children marching around their school with
anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area). Who the fuck would make
little kids do this?

Posted by: kathysaysso at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (vkS2Z)
Bay area be nuts. Our school district in So Cal said nothing doing to demonstrations. But we do have a fairly conservative school board (right now).

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (a0IVu)

206 194. What do they gain by it? I mean, he did his time long ago, and had retired to Limeyland and had been living openly and under his own name for almost a decade. There's no percentage in it for the russkies to snuff him.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (fA1SL)

207 Is the Trump Colluded With Russia To Steal The Election From Hillary theory falsifiable?



Is there any information or evidence that would be accepted by those
who are pushing this theory that would show the theory to be false?



Because if not, then it's not a theory. It's an article of faith.





Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 14, 2018 12:52 PM (mf5HN)


This. And I'd go so far as to say no, it's not falsifiable. Every anti-Trumper will view every action PDT or his administration takes as evidence of collusion. He could bomb Russia into one huge sheet of glass and the anti-Trumpers would say he did it to hide evidence of collusion. They will never believe otherwise.

To be fair, the opposite side does much the same thing. The wildly pro-Trump crowd will view every action PDT or his administration takes as evidence of his pure, unadulterated genius. He doesn't make mistakes; he's just so far ahead of everyone else in the playbook that he's pulling strings before they're even strung. That, too, cannot be falsified.

The difference, of course, is that the pro-Trump crowd does not control the journalistic, entertainment, academic, educational, legislative, and judicial spheres; the anti-Trumpers do. And they're happy to excommunicate anyone who doesn't faithfully adhere to their religious doctrine.

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (rP4OC)

208 If Tillerson wasn't a reliable puppet helping the Russkies, then why was he fired for secretly trying to help the Ruskies buddy, Iran, save their corrupt Obama deal?

Posted by: LASue at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (Z48ZB)

209 "Do the Hillary"
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 01:01 PM (4ErVI)

She's all yours, buddy

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (VWsDy)

210 Dems have always held hands with the commies.
Obama(Jarrett) was the first RedDiaperBaby president. His own book says he was mentored by a card carrying commie, and an old Spectator article shows he was (politically) married to another red (Jarrett, his brain) in Chicago.

Hillary/Podesta ... also in bed with Russia ... U1, Skolkovo, Moscow banks. And all the Trump connections turn out to bet setups directly out of the Hillary campaign, given credence by cooperation from the corrupt people in the FBI as they tried to kill Trump's election hopes, then to stymy his presidency.

Trump/Russia is the left's 2+2=5 moment. They have all evidence against them, yet they think they have the power to force us to accept the lie.

Mueller is still there ... DeepState crimes still not prosecuted ... so the outcome is still uncertain. Proving they are lying doesn't seem to matter.
Proving they are committing felonies (leaking, conspiring, etc) .... doesn't matter. It continues unabated.

but just wait ... #2weeks

Posted by: illiniwek at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (bT8Z4)

211 203 >>Rexxon was a bad choice to begin with. Should have gone with the Stache

Never would have gotten through the Senate.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (/tuJf)

Pull an Obama and name him the official "Fuck You Czar".

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (WDCYi)

212 Did anyone ever explain why Obama didn't do anything while the Russians were whatevering the election?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (JTMqu)

213 Imagine What Would Happen
If Rex had been involved in the Nork
Negotiations?

Glad he is gone.

Posted by: rd at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (4dz1m)

214 Who gets little kids to protest and uses them as political tools/weapons? Communists

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 14, 2018 01:05 PM (OLCnA)

215 All ABC had to say about this is how Rex got fired by Tweet and how low it was of PDT do do it that way.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at March 14, 2018 01:05 PM (5OEn4)

216
I have to wonder at the energy spent by so many to preserve a deal which aids the number one source of terror in the world.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (7ZVPa)


There spending the energy to preserve big profits for European companies

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 14, 2018 01:05 PM (lKyWE)

217 Adam Schiff's sister Melissa was married to George Soros's son, Robert.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (/ikqi)

218 Its my birth month and I just bought some Concours Luggage for my motorcycle for $1.25 each. $40 in shipping so I'm out $43.80 (tax) for a set of bags that normally cost $250 to $350. Let's see if the seller honors his ebay agreement. Good Times.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (2LelM)

219 Its the other half of the story: That Trump knew what Rex was doing.

Someone in Rex's circle was loyal to Trump, not Rex.

That's the big story I think.

Because the Deep State keeps assuming Trump isn't spying on them too.

Posted by: RoyalOil at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (0d1zy)

220 I see your Lauren Southern and Katie Pavlich and raise you one Kayleigh McEnany.

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (6LsBn)

221 >>>173 Lauren Southern is legitimately gorgeous. Unlike say Katie Pavlich who only has young and usually-not-fat going for her. Yet Pavlich gets slobbered over on here for some reason.

I don't get it.
Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 12:53 PM (rFCD6)


Correct. You do not get it.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 12:58 PM (Fs5vw)

__________

Lauren Southern - reports on the South African genocide months before it's fashionable

Katie Pavlich - ZOMFG #NeverDrumpf I love eating Oreos in the tanning bed while applying massive amounts of foundation before twelve layers of lipstick so I can Snapchat a picture with a gun to prove my #TruCon cred!

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (ttajY)

222 "Do the Hillary!"

I've been doing it for years!

**shart**

Posted by: Al Roker at March 14, 2018 01:07 PM (kqsXK)

223 TWEET, Your'e Fired!
\
snorts.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2018 01:07 PM (/ikqi)

224 Can't wait to hear about Trump jeopardizing the fine tradition of an independent State Department....

Posted by: Axebot at March 14, 2018 01:07 PM (vDqXW)

225 Rand Paul has announced the he will not vote for confirmation of either Pompeio or the CIA nominee. The same for Juan McBraintumor.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 12:37 PM (Fs5vw)

Libertarians remain true to their principles. The hard part is enunciating those principles while tripping balls on that truly primo California red bud their cousin brought back from LA.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2018 01:07 PM (K8f5g)

226 185 I'm surprised we don't have a Hillary dance by now.

You put your left foot down, you put your right foot down, you put your left foot down and you fall down the f'ing stairs.

That's what it's all about!

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2018 01:08 PM (Dn4Uq)

227 206 194. What do they gain by it? I mean, he did his time long ago, and had retired to Limeyland and had been living openly and under his own name for almost a decade. There's no percentage in it for the russkies to snuff him.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 01:03 PM (fA1SL)


So you are saying it was someone else; like Hillary/Obama because the guy had dirt on Hillary/Obama (like Seth Rich, and whatshisname at Ft Marcy Park) and had to be silenced and they used Nerve Gas to make it look like Putin did it.

Sounds plausible.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at March 14, 2018 01:08 PM (roQNm)

228 Tillerson is scheduled to be the grad speaker at VMI this year, chosen during a happier time.

As a former Sec of State and CEO of Exxon he could do a good program, but it is not going to be the right venue to vent his spleen about the Trump Administration.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at March 14, 2018 01:08 PM (WoSlu)

229 >> I was horrified this morning watching the local news
showing elementary school children marching around their school with
anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area). Who the fuck would make
little kids do this?



EVent was created/organied by the Women's March crew, which is led by people like sharia-supporting Linda Sarsour, and Farakhan and #BLM supporting others (don't feel like looking up their names).


As always, the one issue (guns) is absorbed into the multi-issued Lefty borg.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 01:08 PM (W+vEI)

230
Its my birth month and I just bought some Concours Luggage for my
motorcycle for $1.25 each. $40 in shipping so I'm out $43.80 (tax) for a
set of bags that normally cost $250 to $350. Let's see if the seller
honors his ebay agreement. Good Times.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (2LelM)


---

I've bought similar things numerous times. They'll be stolen before shipping or fall out of the truck and smash to pieces on the side of the road on the way to the post office.

Ebay is apparently fine with it, which is partly why I gave up on ebay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 01:08 PM (JTMqu)

231 stupid Trump, not supporting Iran or Russia.

Posted by: willow at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (/ikqi)

232 Don't think Putin is losing any sleep over the UK's possible "retaliation". And May - and Trump - ought to be careful about their mouths writing checks their policies can't cash.


All the imaginable (enforceable) sanctions in the universe are nothing compared to energy prices, in their effect on Moscow. Trump is already addressing that beautifully, thank you very much.


So excuse me for drifting off to sleep while pondering this high-stakes, dramatic confrontation between world powers over exotic assassinations and the like.


And as noted by someone above, May and the UK are in such sad shape, overall, and so spectacularly lacking in will or seriousness about foreign matters, they really risk greatly humiliating themselves here.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (OkKDg)

233 MWR!

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (6LsBn)

234 There, in the video, Hillary's Bane, The Stairs.

Posted by: Zombie JRR Tolkien at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (djCea)

235 Just saw a report that John McEntee had a gambling addiction - I can see how all kinds of bad things would turn up on a security report to that. Also, he had been a succesful quarterback, and there's something about a sports star personality that gives them a special affinity to this. I have a little knowledge, a sister who is church going, very moral, very good person all around got secretly involved in gambling, had an addiction, and wrecked her life because of it, all while hiding what was going on from those around her.

She doesn't do that anymore - can't - but the things she was able to do while in the middle of it were shocking, and also that she could keep up a very good and completely normal appearance to everyone else while it was going on. Really shocked all of us, hard for us to believe it was true til we saw it laid out in black and white.

She's explained it to me as best she could, so I think I can understand it a little, but I'm always happy to note that the whole topic of gambling proves that there is at least one vice that has no attraction at all to me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (k1TUh)

236 We need the Stache. He knows this stuff inside and out. Obviously, you don't have to agree with PDT on everything, so why not have the most knowledgeable diplomat available?

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (rdl6o)

237 Katie Pavlich needs a spanking.

I volunteer as Tribute.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (Dn4Uq)

238 >>>220 I see your Lauren Southern and Katie Pavlich and raise you one Kayleigh McEnany.
Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:06 PM (6LsBn)
_______
The internet confirms she's very pretty. Don't know anything else.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (ttajY)

239
233
MWR!


Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (6LsBn)


SHIT. I've been seen!

*serpentines*

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (rP4OC)

240 ---

I've bought similar things numerous times. They'll be stolen before shipping or fall out of the truck and smash to pieces on the side of the road on the way to the post office.

Ebay is apparently fine with it, which is partly why I gave up on ebay.
------------
If the guy contacts me I will give him $35 per bag. Who knows, this guy may just follow through. He doesn't have a motorcycle.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (2LelM)

241 and uses them as political tools/weapons?

+++

Arabs, if you count dead ones

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (MDTfy)

242 Good luck, though. I hope it works out for you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Those deputies listened to the kids screaming as they were shot at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (JTMqu)

243 But why was Tillerson so intent on keeping the Iran deal? Was it just the progressive left wing view that we need to be nice to Iran so they will like us?

I don't think so. Not with Tillerson at least. The reason why a former executive at Exxon would be for the Iran deal is because it opens a new market. Not just for oil either. Boeing had a nice deal with Iran.

https://tinyurl.com/y94tcjbr

That is just the top of the list of American companies. The European companies are even more hot to make business deals in Iran.

Despite last night's defeat in PA, free trade conservatives have to figure out where international trade begins and ends. Do we do deals with admitted enemies of the United States? Do we do deals with countries who make wild treats against our allies? Do we do deals with countries who fund terrorist groups against us?

Why does this matter? Well for military and national security reasons for one. But it is more than just a battlefield problem.

When American companies do business different countries they tend to support those countries political views in order to get those wonderful new deals. Those companies then donate (or bribe) American politicians to support keeping those countries happy.

See how the American tech companies tend to appease China, which then tends to spill over into our freedoms. It is no surprise that American tech companies have become more supportive of anti-free speech polices the more they become embedded in China. It is no surprise that American educational institutions have become more anti-freedom as Chinese money pours into them.

Not picking on China, they are not alone in this. The EU and Islamic countries are the same. They view business deals as a way to influence America politically. So it is more than money.

This is why the Iran deals is more dangerous than just letting Iran get room to build nukes and missiles. It is about influencing our business and elite class to make America into something that Iran likes.

You can never view trade deals on purely economic grounds. That is a major failure of the conservative movement. Something good economically could be awful for American freedom.

Posted by: William Eaton at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (MuTTO)

244 227. For all we know, it could have been an old dispute from his days as a spy. These things do happen. And anyone who thinks use of Soviet nerve agents (assuming that's what was used here) is restricted solely to Russian intelligence ops with official sanction knows little about how damned sloppy they were about keeping tabs on their stuff.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (fA1SL)

245 I was horrified this morning watching the local news
showing elementary school children marching around their school with
anti-gun banners and pictures (SF Bay Area).

--

The important question is, how does a taxpayer funded school district decide to use children as unpaid props, possibly against their will, instead of actually teaching them this day? And why is nobody out there stopping it?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (7ZVPa)

246 Are you guys sensing that Ace has some hostility towards NeverTrumpers, or is it just me?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (1ISKN)

247 If Tillerson wasn't a reliable puppet helping the Russkies, then why was he fired for secretly trying to help the Ruskies buddy, Iran, save their corrupt Obama deal?

Posted by: LASue at March 14, 2018 01:04 PM (Z48ZB)

Opposite Day?

Reverse Psychology?

Negging?

The Great Pumpkin will arrive?

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (6LsBn)

248 Remain calm, all is well!

ALL IS WELL!!!

Posted by: A White House in Chaos at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (qIFpS)

249 193 185 I'm surprised we don't have a Hillary dance by now. I'm thinking we could just rename the Worm Dance the Hillary Dance.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:00 PM (2LelM)


More like Elaine Benes on Seinfeld.
Posted by: Tami Commenter at March 14, 2018

*
*
Difference is, Elaine was hot even when she was doing her "full-body dry heave set to music."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (PLO14)

250 I don't care if Russia killed some UK spy.

Why?

Because the UK will be a State sponsor of Muslim terror within our life times due to demographics.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (DFcT7)

251 MFM has become a raging dumpster fire of PsyOp Meme wars. They want website hits and Twitter trending.

Pretty much yes

Posted by: Max Power at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (q177U)

252 "Libertarians remain true to their principles. The hard part is enunciating those principles while tripping balls on that truly primo California red bud their cousin brought back from LA."

and of course the other big Libertarian in the Senate is Jeff Flake.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (k1TUh)

253 /sock

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (IRIta)

254 Its stupid to hire uber-wealthy people, they're not going to do what you tell them.

Once you're worth a few hundred million, the idea you're going to bend the knee and bite your tongue for anyone is sort of ridiculous to assume.

Posted by: Maritime at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (lKmt3)

255 Maybe we can convince Hillary to do Dancing with the Stars to demonstrate her health and balance. I'm sure there is some gay guy that would dance with Hillary in California. Hopefully their will be a lot of strobe lights.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:13 PM (2LelM)

256
Lauren Southern - reports on the South African genocide months before it's fashionable


I don't know where you've been but reporting on South African genocide has been fashionable since I was in high school in the mid 70's

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 14, 2018 01:13 PM (lKyWE)

257 Lauren Southern - reports on the South African genocide months before it's fashionable

Katie Pavlich - ZOMFG #NeverDrumpf


There are some men for whom a woman is simply a life support system for boobs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:13 PM (39g3+)

258
Libertarians remain true to their principles. The hard part is enunciating those principles while tripping balls on that truly primo California red bud their cousin brought back from LA.
Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2018 01:07 PM (K8f5g)


How is voting against a man soliciting a free trade agreement going against libertarians principle? And yes, libertarians are nothing but useless potheads.

Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 01:14 PM (Fs5vw)

259 I cheer as all these withered communist fucking scrunts bite it. Hope they all go head first.

Yay, stairs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2018 01:14 PM (89T5c)

260 Daily Mail says hILLRY sprained her hand.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2018 01:15 PM (HgMAr)

261 254 Once you're worth a few hundred million, the idea you're going to bend the knee and bite your tongue for anyone is sort of ridiculous to assume.
Posted by: Maritime at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (lKmt3)

Pretty Much.

If they don't have to fear you, then they don't have to hear you.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:15 PM (WDCYi)

262 >>>237 Katie Pavlich needs a spanking.

I volunteer as Tribute.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (Dn4Uq)
______
Since you're into spanking, there's Jew in need who could use butt slap indeed!

How bout it big boy?

Posted by: Anthony Weiner in a thong at March 14, 2018 01:15 PM (ttajY)

263 260
Daily Mail says hILLRY sprained her hand.

Posted by: wth at March 14, 2018 01:15 PM (HgMAr)

I saw that.
*#EMPOWERED*

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 01:16 PM (Iz8Py)

264 Daily Mail says hILLRY sprained her hand.
------------

Hope it's not her lamp throwing hand.

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:16 PM (6LsBn)

265 I don't care if Russia killed some UK spy.



Why?



Because the UK will be a State sponsor of Muslim terror within our life times due to demographics.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:12 PM (DFcT7)

Pretty sound thinking really.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:16 PM (aMlLZ)

266 http://nyti.ms/2FEIvij
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Andrew McCabe, a Symbol of Trump's F.B.I. Ire, Faces Possible Firing
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Nah Under Fire & others said Rip Van SessionZZZZZZZZZZ was asleep at the wheel

Posted by: DeploraBOT at March 14, 2018 01:16 PM (y3aQB)

267 Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (rP4OC)

MWR! How nice to see you!

Posted by: Al Roker at March 14, 2018 01:17 PM (kqsXK)

268 "Libertarians remain true to their principles. The hard part is enunciating those principles while tripping balls on that truly primo California red bud their cousin brought back from LA."

-

The weed doesn't help, but the core issue with libertarians is they strongly advocate for individual rights but refuse to acknowledge the source of those rights since they largely don't tend to believe in God. The ideology tries to build a house on sand.

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 01:17 PM (mk7Bj)

269 So we have to have political theater wherein we pretend we don't torture terrorists?

I don't want a government that won't do what's necessary to keep it's citizens safe.

F John McCain and Paul. I don't give two shits that McCain (Songbird) was a prisoner of war. Should have been a better pilot.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 14, 2018 01:17 PM (U+nHb)

270 I don't know where you've been but reporting on South African genocide has been fashionable since I was in high school in the mid 70's

She's reporting on whites being killed, ignored by the press worldwide.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:17 PM (39g3+)

271 Damn! Sharting sock off!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM (kqsXK)

272 I wants to thank the people of Pennsylvania for defeating that racist republitard. We want Presdent Obama back and his policies to protect gays, lesbians, children and persons of color. You lose TRump and America and Hillary wins

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM (qM84C)

273 The Prancing Pounces of Posing really need to get a new act together.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM (ePaIG)

274 >Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM (rP4OC)<



Howdy. Its been far too long!

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM (sjdRT)

275 '"'m surprised we don't have a Hillary dance by now."



She's going fast track Capt Christopher Pike.



He didn't dance.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM (aMlLZ)

276 Hillary sprained her hand whilst fisting Huma

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM (OLCnA)

277 How about John McCain and Hillary on Dances with the Stars? Like the Special Olympics of Dances with the Stars. I'd watch that. Hell, I'd record it.

Posted by: Gumby at March 14, 2018 01:19 PM (2LelM)

278 Libertarians remain true to their principles.

And their principles are weed and hookers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:19 PM (39g3+)

279 I say it repeatedly, but if Trump is a Russian tool, why is he encouraging the oil industry in the United States?

I wonder if anyone will ask Larry Tribe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:19 PM (vX2zy)

280 Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:09 PM (k1TUh)

I hope she keeps away from gambling. I hope you can rebuild your relationship.

The worst part is the lies they keep telling their family and friends (and themselves). That is so corrosive.

Posted by: rd at March 14, 2018 01:19 PM (4dz1m)

281 I saw the Prancing Pounces of Posing open for Boy George back in '86.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (sjdRT)

282 No Nukes,
No Nukes*

* unless it's fanatical loonies highly likely to use them on US.

Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (FhXTo)

283 I say it repeatedly, but if Trump is a Russian tool, why is he encouraging the oil industry in the United States?

And building up military spending, and bombing Rooskies to pieces in Syria, and looking to torpedo the Iran deal, and...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (oVJmc)

284 Are you guys sensing that Ace has some hostility towards NeverTrumpers, or is it just me?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM


Signs point to Yep.

Posted by: Magic 8-Ball, AoSHQ Edition at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (ctuyM)

285 MWR! How nice to see you!

Posted by: Al Roker at March 14, 2018 01:17 PM (kqsXK)


*waves!* Howdy!


I started a new position recently, had a little downtime, and figured I'd check in with the HQ. I miss this place. Group hug!

{{{}}}

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (rP4OC)

286 >>Andrew McCabe, a Symbol of Trump's F.B.I. Ire, Faces Possible Firing

Steiner will come too.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (r9UYA)

287 Difference is, Elaine was hot even when she was doing her "full-body dry heave set to music."

Julia Louis-Dreyfus is worth 200 million dollars.

The rotting, flyblown corpse of Helen Thomas would be hot at that amount of cash.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (kqsXK)

288 O/T- I tried getting through this without kleenex, but failed. Fenelon, if here will like.

https://tinyurl.com/yad3y9f4

Posted by: WeBoned! at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (EfEQe)

289 >>>256
Lauren Southern - reports on the South African genocide months before it's fashionable


I don't know where you've been but reporting on South African genocide has been fashionable since I was in high school in the mid 70's
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 14, 2018 01:13 PM (lKyWE)
_________

The 70's????

I was born in the 80s and my GF in the 90s. What are these 70s you speak of?

Is it like 70 SPF? For tanning?

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (ttajY)

290 I like this analysis of the Pennsylvania special election:

"Lamb went in +6 and barely won (pending challenges). He had to run as a pro-2A, pro-life, anti-Pelosi Dem. Hardly representative of their party.

More importantly, the seat won't exist in November."
--John Cardillo on Twitter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (39g3+)

291 The Iranian Deal is a rock solid commitment to peace.

The firing of Rex Tillerson occurred in a fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan.

Pass the ketchup.

Posted by: John Forbes Kerry at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (ATVNj)

292 I started a new position recently, had a little downtime, and figured I'd check in with the HQ. I miss this place. Group hug!

{{{}}}

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (rP4OC)

I thought you were busy fixing your trampoline.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (4ErVI)

293 282 No Nukes,
No Nukes*

* unless it's fanatical loonies highly likely to use them on US.
Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (FhXTo)

"Well, DUH, how ELSE are we ever going to exterminate Christianity?"

--The Fabulous Transgender Left

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (WDCYi)

294 >>So we have to have political theater wherein we pretend we don't torture terrorists?



Hey, remember during Bush's presidency, during a raid in Irag or Afghanistan they found the illustrated AQ torture manual? It was filled with gruesome, detailed instructions for the kind of stuff ISIS has since been seen doing/broadcasting for years.

Yeah, neither does the press. They're too busy reminiscing over one bad night at Abu Garib, and the two or three Gitmo detainees who were waterboarded.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (W+vEI)

295 Hawking warns of the impending evil and doom due to AI.
=====================================


At a million dollars, wasn't Colossus: The Forbin Project a much more cost effective and entertaining warning ??

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (VWsDy)

296 I'm surprised the Dems haven't started the, "Trump + Big Oil = Big Oil Profits!!"

Maybe because the fracking started during Obamao's reign.

Posted by: davidt at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (djCea)

297 --John Cardillo on Twitter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (39g3+)

He ran as a pro-abortion candidate.

DNC would have released no funds otherwise.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (Iz8Py)

298 268 "Libertarians remain true to their principles. The hard part is enunciating those principles while tripping balls on that truly primo California red bud their cousin brought back from LA."

-

The weed doesn't help, but the core issue with libertarians is they strongly advocate for individual rights but refuse to acknowledge the source of those rights since they largely don't tend to believe in God. The ideology tries to build a house on sand.
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 01:17 PM (mk7Bj)

==============

The problem is that the Libertarian Party has an establishment like any other party, and that establishment is enthralled to the weed industry above all else. Secondary is a desire to hate Republicans because Republicans are uncool.

The ideology of Libertarianism is a great intellectual place, I think. The LP is just a terrible vessel for it. Refer to the Republican Party and Conservatism for a concurrent example.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (vX2zy)

299 The 70's????

I was born in the 80s and my GF in the 90s. What are these 70s you speak of?

Is it like 70 SPF? For tanning?

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (ttajY)


You can be the piñata at the next Mo-Me, youngster.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Protect Your Despair with Gloom Guard Polish & Sealer! Only at The Outrage Outlet! at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (hLRSq)

300 >I thought you were busy fixing your trampoline.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (4ErVI)<

I forgot about the trampoline. OMG, I don't know me anymore.

Posted by: Muad'dib at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (sjdRT)

301 SHIT. I've been seen!

*serpentines*


Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:10 PM


Must be hell to serpentine in all that snow. Y'all dug out up there yet?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 14, 2018 01:23 PM (p+Wdc)

302 "They are motivated, like the shittier class of bloggers tend to be, by little more than emotion, primarily anger and hate."

We call such people "liberals"

Posted by: random lurker commenter at March 14, 2018 01:23 PM (57plp)

303 Why isn't this guy dead yet?

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291228/

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:23 PM (LiyEm)

304 I guess Viacom went dark for 17 minutes (all their channels, like MTV).

Nobody noticed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:23 PM (39g3+)

305 >>>257 Lauren Southern - reports on the South African genocide months before it's fashionable

Katie Pavlich - ZOMFG #NeverDrumpf

There are some men for whom a woman is simply a life support system for boobs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:13 PM (39g3+)
__________
WE TOLD YOU TO "NOT" LET THEM VOTE!!!

Posted by: The Founders at March 14, 2018 01:24 PM (ttajY)

306 For all we know, it could have been an old dispute
from his days as a spy. These things do happen. And anyone who thinks
use of Soviet nerve agents (assuming that's what was used here) is
restricted solely to Russian intelligence ops with official sanction
knows little about how damned sloppy they were about keeping tabs on
their stuff.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (fA1SL)

Remember that nutbar cult in Japan was able to successfully make and deploy Sarin. I am sure it would not be hard for a dedicated amateur or small group to make nerve toxins comparable to those known to exist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2018 01:24 PM (Dbv1R)

307 More importantly, the seat won't exist in November."

--John Cardillo on Twitter


The PA high court redistricting still has to clear two legal challenges. No one can predict status at this time.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 01:24 PM (Iz8Py)

308 Pikachu- the elders don't like the youngers standing on the lawn.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2018 01:24 PM (89T5c)

309 The 70's????



I was born in the 80s and my GF in the 90s. What are these 70s you speak of?



Is it like 70 SPF? For tanning?



Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM


*pojnts down*

See that? That's the Horde's Lawn. Off it is thattaway -->

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 14, 2018 01:24 PM (p+Wdc)

310 She's going fast track Capt Christopher Pike.

-----

He didn't dance.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:18 PM


He identified as a dancer, H8r!

Posted by: The Brattleboro Womyn's Health & Resource Center, and Institute of Intersectional Interpretive Dance at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (ctuyM)

311 Tillerson is simply a victim of his own inability to see his boss as his boss.

A lot of highly intelligent and capable people fall into this trap. Lack of humility and lack of understanding his place in the hierarchy. Some call it ego--I just call it wildcatting, because those who truly believe they know better than their bosses really shouldn't be in a position to have a boss. They should be their own boss.

I learned it the hard way, and it appears Mr. Tillerson is doing likewise.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (7UW64)

312 She's reporting on whites being killed, ignored by the press worldwide.

***

If you believe that Seiner Van Rensburg fellow, this is a merest, gentle prelude.

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (MDTfy)

313 The lofty IG recommended firing? That's it? Wow, Horowitz report sounds like indictment city!ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: Snoreregard at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (5gaNQ)

314 The weed doesn't help, but the core issue with libertarians is they strongly advocate for individual rights but refuse to acknowledge the source of those rights since they largely don't tend to believe in God. The ideology tries to build a house on sand.

And you can see it in real time as the libertarian party slouches to the left daily. Their principles aren't based on anything other than "let me do what I want to do without making me feel bad" which inevitably goes leftward.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (39g3+)

315 283 I say it repeatedly, but if Trump is a Russian tool, why is he encouraging the oil industry in the United States?

And building up military spending, and bombing Rooskies to pieces in Syria, and looking to torpedo the Iran deal, and...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (oVJmc)

=============

It's something that needs to be said repeatedly.

If Trump was a tool of Russian, he'd be cutting off energy production in the US as much as possible, getting behind every wacko environmental movement to hamper US energy as well, killing fraking. He'd act like a liberal Democrat, really.

And the fact that he wants the US to be energy dominant when Russia relies so heavily on high oil prices to fund its entire government is debilitating to the whole idea of Trump as Russian tool.

I really want to see Patterico write a post about how Trump killing Russian finances through low energy prices is a sign that he's Putin's puppet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (vX2zy)

316 287 Difference is, Elaine was hot even when she was doing her "full-body dry heave set to music."

Julia Louis-Dreyfus is worth 200 million dollars.

The rotting, flyblown corpse of Helen Thomas would be hot at that amount of cash."

No. I couldn't do it. I might wish that I could, but I couldn't do it. It'd be like eating a turd for a million dollars. No doubt some people could make themselves do it, but they still wouldn't like it very much.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (k1TUh)

317 >>So we have to have political theater wherein we pretend we don't torture terrorists?







Hey, remember during Bush's presidency, during a raid in Irag or
Afghanistan they found the illustrated AQ torture manual? It was filled
with gruesome, detailed instructions for the kind of stuff ISIS has
since been seen doing/broadcasting for years.



Yeah, neither does the press. They're too busy reminiscing over one
bad night at Abu Garib, and the two or three Gitmo detainees who were
waterboarded.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 01:22 PM (W+vEI)


If that scrunt Kathy Griffen can take a picture holding Donald Trump's head, I have no problem with that Gina chick holding a jihadi head.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (aMlLZ)

318 290
I like this analysis of the Pennsylvania special election:



"Lamb went in +6 and barely won (pending challenges). He had to run
as a pro-2A, pro-life, anti-Pelosi Dem. Hardly representative of their
party.



More importantly, the seat won't exist in November."

--John Cardillo on Twitter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (39g3+)
And they did not have a primary - would he have survived his party's primary running on that platform?

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (a0IVu)

319 >>303 Why isn't this guy dead yet?

We're praying for his ultimate return to the Senate floor.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (r9UYA)

320
You're not going to get Europe to get tougher on Iran.



Won't happen.


Even allowing Europe to talk weaker about Iran helps the mullahs in their current dash from the noose.

Posted by: DaveA at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (FhXTo)

321 And dial it down on the conspiracy theories. Just because your TwitterPalz agree with your conspiracy theories does not render them into something other than conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories often attract a broad range of emotionally-embittered people who all agree vociferously with the conspiracy theory the group has nuttered itself into believing.
---
Ya know what's a pretty BIG conspiracy theory: Rape Culture.

Nobody sees anybody condoning rape--yet that's what the whole society is about: getting women raped. We've decided in our clandestine meetings that kind of look like a scene from Eyes Wide Shut: "More rape."

If I say women often can't lift 50 pounds, what I'm really saying, is there should be more women raped. It's code.

Posted by: The Rape Cult at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (vDqXW)

322 314 And you can see it in real time as the libertarian party slouches to the left daily. Their principles aren't based on anything other than "let me do what I want to do without making me feel bad" which inevitably goes leftward.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:25 PM (39g3+)


No so much libertarian, but libertine.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (WDCYi)

323 The 70's????

I was born in the 80s and my GF in the 90s. What are these 70s you speak of?

Is it like 70 SPF? For tanning?

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (ttajY)

Well, aren't you a cute little weenie?

Appears you may have some learning left to do....

Let the Horde put you on some knowledge.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (7UW64)

324 "They are motivated, like the shittier class of bloggers tend to be, by little more than emotion, primarily anger and hate."

Oliver Willis seems to make a good living out of it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (kqsXK)

325 Even East Wind Rain won't have the Prancing Pounces of Posing as their opening act.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (ePaIG)

326 I don't know where you've been but reporting on South African genocide has been fashionable since I was in high school in the mid 70's
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic


there's been an m night schlomalong type plot twist.

Posted by: x at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (nFwvY)

327 I warned the Pikachu.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (89T5c)

328 Julia Louis-Dreyfus is worth 200 million dollars.

The rotting, flyblown corpse of Helen Thomas would be hot at that amount of cash.


No, Julia Louis-Dreyfus was pretty and funny at that point. So yeah: hot, regardless of her net worth.

Meanwhile how much is Hillary Clinton worth? Is she remotely hot to you?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)

329 No so much libertarian, but libertine.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (WDCYi)

Well, it sure as heck isn't librarian.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (7UW64)

330 Ahyasgosmehooyazegouivich. Evesavesuzaguthous bivocaxeouzed macuzedaponklz!

Posted by: Stephen Hawking at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (o2MD2)

331 316 No. I couldn't do it. I might wish that I could, but I couldn't do it. It'd be like eating a turd for a million dollars. No doubt some people could make themselves do it, but they still wouldn't like it very much.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (k1TUh)

Philadelphia Eagles fans do it for free.

Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (WDCYi)

332 Remember that nutbar cult in Japan was able to successfully make and deploy Sarin.

Aum Shinrikiyo.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (kqsXK)

333 287 Difference is, Elaine was hot even when she was doing her "full-body dry heave set to music."

Julia Louis-Dreyfus is worth 200 million dollars.

The rotting, flyblown corpse of Helen Thomas would be hot at that amount of cash.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018

*
*
To each his own, MPPP *grin*. I'm not sure I could do any more than upchuck repeatedly in the presence of HT's buzzard-bait body.

I didn't know about JL-D's background or $$$ when the show was new. I just thought she was amazing, that she could continue to look cute even when making comic faces. Hillary, not so much. Even when she was young.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (PLO14)

334 330 Ahyasgosmehooyazegouivich. Evesavesuzaguthous bivocaxeouzed macuzedaponklz!
Posted by: Stephen Hawking at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (o2MD2)

He said "the sheriff is near."

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (NWiLs)

335 250 I don't care if Russia killed some UK spy.

Why?

Because the UK will be a State sponsor of Muslim terror within our life times due to demographics.

-------

I saw the report where the British let their children be raped and sexually abused in another town.

If they do not care about their children, why should I care about any of them?

Posted by: rd at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (4dz1m)

336 Philadelphia Eagles fans do it for free.
Posted by: Hikaru at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (WDCYi)

Hey we started it! Give credit where credit's due.

Posted by: Cleveland Fans at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (72PAC)

337 We're praying for his ultimate return to the Senate floor.



Posted by: Mitch McConnell at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (r9UYA)
No zombies allowed in congress.

Posted by: IC at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (a0IVu)

338 Listen here you old farts. Once we have self driving cars THEN we can apply the technology to your wheel chairs. But until then it's just not safe outside the rest home.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (ttajY)

339 Julia Louis-Dreyfus is worth 200 million dollars.
============================

She is the heir to the Dreyfus fortune. When she comes into that, 200 million will be chump change

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (VWsDy)

340 304 I guess Viacom went dark for 17 minutes (all their channels, like MTV).

Nobody noticed.
______________________________________

you mean Viacom/Paramount which makes millions of dollars in profits producing and cablecasting movies about gun violence?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (ATVNj)

341
What's with the bump or lump on the grip safety on the Trump 1911?
I've seen that recently on a couple of new pistols. Is it supposed to
improve the feel or grip or something?

Posted by: Iowa Bob, totally not a Russian BOT at March 14, 2018 12:35 PM
.
.
.It's the grip safety.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 14, 2018 12:36 PM (+Dllb)

I'm asking about the bump at the top of the grip safety. I'm used to seeing a smoothly curved grip safety, with no bump. Recently I've seen several new pistols with the bump, Colts, I believe, and I wondered why it was there.
Posted by: Iowa Bob, totally not a Russian BOT at March 14, 2018 12:47 PM (tu3iY)







It's a common addition to the design of the grip safety to ensure that it's depressed when the pistol is held in the hand. But they do it as a bump to ensure minimal alteration of the grip feel.

Personally, I've never had a problem with the GS on a 1911, but it's nice to have the option for those that do.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (eXA4G)

342 If I say women often can't lift 50 pounds, what I'm really saying, is there should be more women raped. It's code.

Posted by: The Rape Cult at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (vDqXW)


"You said "rape" twice."

"I like rape."

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (7UW64)

343 337 We're praying for his ultimate return to the Senate floor.



Posted by: Mitch McConnell at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM (r9UYA)
No zombies allowed in congress.
Posted by: IC at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (a0IVu)

=============

"We're working on that..."
-9th Circuit

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (vX2zy)

344 No zombies allowed in congress.
Posted by: IC at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (a0IVu)

I'll allow it.

Posted by: Random Hawaii Judge #7 at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (72PAC)

345 335:They are starting to look like a conquered people.

Posted by: CN at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (5gaNQ)

346 339 Julia Louis-Dreyfus is worth 200 million dollars.
============================

She is the heir to the Dreyfus fortune. When she comes into that, 200 million will be chump change
Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (VWsDy)

I need to have a Dreyfus affair.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (NWiLs)

347 https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybvf3o9q

Well lunch I think and more writing.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 14, 2018 01:29 PM (ePaIG)

348 If I say women often can't lift 50 pounds, what I'm really saying, is there should be more women raped. It's code.
Posted by: The Rape Cult at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM


What if a man can't lift 50 pounds?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: B. H. Soetoro at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (ctuyM)

349 This is why the Iran deals is more dangerous than just letting Iran get room to build nukes and missiles. It is about influencing our business and elite class to make America into something that Iran likes.

You can never view trade deals on purely economic grounds. That is a major failure of the conservative movement. Something good economically could be awful for American freedom.
Posted by: William Eaton at March 14, 2018 01:11 PM (MuTTO)

Everyone needs to read this twice. Excellent point.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (m0lmR)

350
Ya know what's a pretty BIG conspiracy theory: Rape Culture

++

Telford UK .... Though I guess that's a "scandal"

Posted by: Bigbys Olive Fingers at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (MDTfy)

351 338 Listen here you old farts. Once we have self driving cars THEN we can apply the technology to your wheel chairs. But until then it's just not safe outside the rest home.

Posted by: Nationalist Pikachu at March 14, 2018 01:28 PM (ttajY)


You may sing a different tune once I beat you about the head and neck with my pearl-handled cane.

Posted by: tcn in AK at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (7UW64)

352 Tillerson was all breathless during his closing remarks. I wonder what he had staked on undermining our President.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 12:29 PM (Iz8Py)


Tillerson was used to being the top Alpha is the organization. He forgot that he wasn't in the Trump administration. Being bent over the table while Trump (figuratively) had his way with him had to be bruising to Tillerson's ego.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (YQ4mh)

353 348 If I say women often can't lift 50 pounds, what I'm really saying, is there should be more women raped. It's code.
Posted by: The Rape Cult at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM

What if a man can't lift 50 pounds?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: B. H. Soetoro at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (ctuyM)

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"Then it's proof positive of the patriarchy. As is if he can lift more than 50 pounds. And exactly 50 pounds. It's science."
-Very smart college student who doesn't regret at all dropping engineering for women's studies

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (vX2zy)

354 Meanwhile how much is Hillary Clinton worth? Is she remotely hot to you?

No, not particularly.

I am reminded of Grandfather Poppins' admonition, "Son, it gets mighty tiresome fucking a checkbook."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (kqsXK)

355 Guy made his own Knight Rider Trans Am complete with a working KITT(David Hasselhof not included)

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291177/

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (LiyEm)

356 Take your lumps, Pikachu.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (89T5c)

357 Are we sure Dr. Hawking wasn't an alien that finally went home?

Maybe the RUSSIANS poisoned him?

Posted by: Fritz at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (bJ0w+)

358 So we're supposed to prove we're not in league with Putin by continuing a bad deal with one of Putin's client states that is probably going to lead to that client state getting nuclear weapons?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (2379E)

359 Remember that nutbar cult in Japan was able to successfully make and deploy Sarin. I am sure it would not be hard for a dedicated amateur or small group to make nerve toxins comparable to those known to exist."

IIRC, you can make ricin from castor-plant beans. (used to have one in my yard, beautiful plant) But reports indicate that the chemical used in this attack was an extremely unique one, only ever manufactured by the Russians, which western intelligence services have been worrying about for 20 years or more.

unlikely that some splinter group would have ever found out about something that before now was only known to top level intelligence services.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (k1TUh)

360 Meanwhile how much is Hillary Clinton worth? Is she remotely hot to you?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)

Not even to the Vogons.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (aMlLZ)

361 354 Meanwhile how much is Hillary Clinton worth? Is she remotely hot to you?

No, not particularly.

I am reminded of Grandfather Poppins' admonition, "Son, it gets mighty tiresome fucking a checkbook."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (kqsXK)

Not to mention the paper cuts.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (NWiLs)

362 I started a new position recently

Posted by: MWR, Public Intellectual, aka Beth at March 14, 2018 01:20 PM (rP4OC)

Go on...

Posted by: Mega at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (6LsBn)

363 Hillary is worth bout 2 bucks, but only if ground and granulated and ready to apply to the lawn.

Posted by: maddogg at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (o2MD2)

364 Right now, Viacom/Paramount is cablecasting the movie "Salt," where a CIA agent goes on the run after a defector accuses her of being a Russian spy. It stars Angelina Jolie.

No celebrated gun violence there.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (ATVNj)

365 358 So we're supposed to prove we're not in league with Putin by continuing a bad deal with one of Putin's client states that is probably going to lead to that client state getting nuclear weapons?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (2379E)

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Also, if Trump turned 180 and started supporting the deal as originally agreed upon, it would be proof of him being a Putin stooge.

It's science.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (vX2zy)

366 360 Meanwhile how much is Hillary Clinton worth? Is she remotely hot to you?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:27 PM (39g3+)

Not even to the Vogons.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (aMlLZ)

Well rend my gobberworts!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (NWiLs)

367
What if a man can't lift 50 pounds?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: B. H. Soetoro at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (ctuyM)
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You won't be on the rape team.

Posted by: The Rape Cult at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (vDqXW)

368 >>>348 If I say women often can't lift 50 pounds, what I'm really saying, is there should be more women raped. It's code.
Posted by: The Rape Cult at March 14, 2018 01:26 PM

What if a man can't lift 50 pounds?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: B. H. Soetoro at March 14, 2018 01:30 PM (ctuyM)
________
Then you just need to reach around and grab a big man who can do it for you

Posted by: Anthony Weiner - naked at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (ttajY)

369 364 Right now, Viacom/Paramount is cablecasting the movie "Salt," where a CIA agent goes on the run after a defector accuses her of being a Russian spy. It stars Angelina Jolie.

No celebrated gun violence there.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (ATVNj)

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That movie's pretty good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (vX2zy)

370 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ?? Tang, maybe ??

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (VWsDy)

371 Guy made his own Knight Rider Trans Am complete with a working KITT(David Hasselhof not included)

I wondered how long it would be before someone did that, its completely feasible at this point. I mean the car won't be self aware, but it can act enough so to be convincing for a short time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (39g3+)

372 Posted by: WeBoned! at March 14, 2018 01:21 PM (EfEQe)

Thanks very much. Very nice!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2018 01:34 PM (8+Ozj)

373 For the electric bougaloo pokemon

https://youtu.be/z7o7emL40jM

Jya ne!

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at March 14, 2018 01:34 PM (ePaIG)

374 Right now, Viacom/Paramount is cablecasting the movie "Salt," where a CIA agent goes on the run after a defector accuses her of being a Russian spy. It stars Angelina Jolie.

I liked Salt, it was pretty good. Hannah was pretty good too, in a different sort of vein, although it really slowed down in the middle when she's just hanging out with kids her age being weird.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:34 PM (39g3+)

375 That movie's pretty good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (vX2zy)
_______________________________________

Scenes for the movie were shot in Albany, NY on I-787. Great views of the Albany skyline and buildings.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (ATVNj)

376 No so much libertarian, but libertine.

I'm so libertarian I support Obamacare!

Posted by: Bill Maher at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (NF2Bf)

377 371 Well,his KITT is just a bunch of recorded answers but certainly a more sophisticated one could be made with AI software.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (LiyEm)

378 That movie's pretty good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (vX2zy)

Is there any movies made in the last 20 years that you don't like ??

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (VWsDy)

379 378 That movie's pretty good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (vX2zy)

Is there any movies made in the last 20 years that you don't like ??
Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (VWsDy)

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Everything is awesome!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (vX2zy)

380 Europe has never met a terrorist they will not sell to.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (BtQd4)

381 Hillary is worth bout 2 bucks, but only if ground and granulated and ready to apply to the lawn.

Posted by: maddogg at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (o2MD2)

Tru-value.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (aMlLZ)

382 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ??

His books made people appear to be smart and sciencey by putting them on coffee tables. He had enough sophistry in his arguments to help angry atheists fool themselves a little longer that there is no God.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (39g3+)

383 Europe has never met a terrorist they will not sell to.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (BtQd4)
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Damn Capitalists!

Posted by: The Revolution Will Not Be Blogged at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (vDqXW)

384 Tillerson recently caved to European pressure

What kind of a pussy caves to European pressure?

"Gather around, my funky friends. Here's what you're going to do. Write it down. Now be sure to take some complimentary deodorant with you on your way out."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

385 380 Follow up
Or willing to save their daughters and sons from same terrorist.

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (BtQd4)

386 382 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ??

His books made people appear to be smart and sciencey by putting them on coffee tables. He had enough sophistry in his arguments to help angry atheists fool themselves a little longer that there is no God.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (39g3+)

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Didn't he originally posit the Big Bang as a way to help disprove God? And then he turned away from it because he felt like it actually helped prove God?

I seem to remember that being a thing with him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:37 PM (vX2zy)

387 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ??

Nothing.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 14, 2018 01:37 PM (r9UYA)

388 Everything is awesome!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:35 PM (vX2zy)

Dude, that's my line.

Posted by: That Lego Guy at March 14, 2018 01:37 PM (72PAC)

389 384 Tillerson recently caved to European pressure

What kind of a pussy caves to European pressure?

"Gather around, my funky friends. Here's what you're going to do. Write it down. Now be sure to take some complimentary deodorant with you on your way out."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (YqDXo)

They threatened to smug him to death.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nowhere Man at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

390 I'm really curious. What justifications are given for supporting the Iran deal? How does anybody justifying helping a lunatic regime go nuclear?
Muslim outreach? Hatred of Israel? A death wish? Fairness?
Somebody please explain the perspective of the deep state on this.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (nBr1j)

391 "It looks like Russia picked Tillerson to be a Putin puppet,
then pushed Trump to fire Tillerson when he proved to be an unreliable puppet. No mystery there."
------------------------------
Do you see what we are dealing with here?
Don't tell me Lawrence Tribe is a low-IQ dummy. Emphatically he is not.
And I think he really BELIEVES this.

We are dealing with ideological psychosis, Orwellian stupidity. But it doesn't arise from mental deficiency.

What kind of moral/spiritual derangement twists a man's mind like this?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (0jtPF)

392 IIRC, you can make ricin from castor-plant beans.
(used to have one in my yard, beautiful plant) But reports indicate
that the chemical used in this attack was an extremely unique one, only
ever manufactured by the Russians, which western intelligence services
have been worrying about for 20 years or more.



unlikely that some splinter group would have ever found out about
something that before now was only known to top level intelligence
services.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 14, 2018 01:31 PM (k1TUh)

Well, if that Russian nerve agent was ever identified in the press, or some scholarly journal, a good chemist could probably figure out the synthesis, based on the synthesis of of known similar compounds.
And I dare say some of the genuine Russian stuff made its way to the black market, too. If you wanted to make it look like Russia did the hit; if that was really important to you, then you would go to extreme lengths to make it so.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (Dbv1R)

393 Hillary is worth bout 2 bucks, but only if ground and granulated and ready to apply to the lawn.



Posted by: maddogg at March 14, 2018 01:32 PM (o2MD2)

Wouldn't that kill the grass?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (aVYsC)

394 You can get $7 per 100# scrapping out Hawkings wheelchair.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (89T5c)

395 384 Elitist peer pressure.

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (LiyEm)

396 390 I'm really curious. What justifications are given for supporting the Iran deal? How does anybody justifying helping a lunatic regime go nuclear?
Muslim outreach? Hatred of Israel? A death wish? Fairness?
Somebody please explain the perspective of the deep state on this.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (nBr1j)

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The justification is that the deal prevents Iran from going nuclear, assuming that they do everything by the letter.

Hand wave about lack of enforcement, checks, or the fact that it only lasts ten years...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:39 PM (vX2zy)

397 382 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ??
______________________________________

He came up with fragmented equations and theories that may assist in the quest for a unified theory of Einstein's relativity and quantum physics.

His equations were proven correct, but they were only fragmented against larger theories.

He was like a tactical science guy and not a strategic science guy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:39 PM (ATVNj)

398 Didn't he originally posit the Big Bang as a way to
help disprove God? And then he turned away from it because he felt like
it actually helped prove God?



I seem to remember that being a thing with him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:37 PM (vX2zy)

IIRC, the Big Bang was proposed by George LeMaitre, a physicist who was also a priest.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 14, 2018 01:39 PM (Dbv1R)

399 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ?? Tang, maybe ??
Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:33 PM (VWsDy)

His job wasn't to come up with practical things. He wasn't an engineer.

I'm not a big fan of his but we do need people pushing the edges of what might be.

Posted by: DR.WTF? at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (T71PA)

400 397 382 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ??
______________________________________

He came up with fragmented equations and theories that may assist in the quest for a unified theory of Einstein's relativity and quantum physics.

His equations were proven correct, but they were only fragmented against larger theories.

He was like a tactical science guy and not a strategic science guy.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:39 PM (ATVNj)

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*nods as though understanding*

I concur.

*puts pipe in mouth wrong way...fails to recover...falls on face*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (vX2zy)

401 What kind of moral/spiritual derangement twists a man's mind like this?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM


Hi there!

Posted by: Socialism at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (p+Wdc)

402 Thanks very much. Very nice!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2018 01:34 PM (8+Ozj)

You're Welcome!

Posted by: WeBoned! at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (EfEQe)

403 I'm not a big fan of his but we do need people pushing the edges of what might be.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (T71PA)

Like a lesbian feminist utopia without any men!

Posted by: Gender Studies Professor at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

404 Nothing exudes confidence like weekly mass firings.

Posted by: A White House in Chaos at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (UC5Sf)

405 403 I'm not a big fan of his but we do need people pushing the edges of what might be.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (T71PA)

Like a lesbian feminist utopia without any men!
Posted by: Gender Studies Professor at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

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"Let me tell you about Utopia..."
-Thomas More

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (vX2zy)

406 'm not a big fan of his but we do need people pushing the edges of what might be.
Posted by: DR.WTF? at March 14, 2018 01:40 PM (T71PA)

Like a lesbian feminist utopia without any men!
Posted by: Gender Studies Professor at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

Not!

Posted by: DR.WTF? at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (T71PA)

407 slow moving corgis
avast

Posted by: votermom certified russian matryoshka bot at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (hMwEB)

408 >>>Hope it's not her lamp throwing hand.

don't forget about us!

Posted by: ashtray at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (SJBL7)

409 Didn't he originally posit the Big Bang as a way to help disprove God? And then he turned away from it because he felt like it actually helped prove God?

I'm not sure he came up with it, but Christians had no problem with it.

"what's that you say? Everything came out of nothing suddenly? That's what we've been arguing all along."

His last big theory was "everything come from nothing.... gradually"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:41 PM (39g3+)

410 What kind of moral/spiritual derangement twists a man's mind like this?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 14, 2018 01:38 PM (0jtPF)

I don't think he believes this nonsense. He just puts it out there for the Flying Monkeys to distribute on their unhinged social media rants.
Job #1 for Team Demunist is to keep the Russian bogeyman theme alive.

Posted by: kallisto at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (Iz8Py)

411 Searches for hotels in fictional Wakanda up 620% since release of the movie(facepalm)

https://tinyurl.com/y6wmygcu

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (LiyEm)

412 Troll's up.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (p+Wdc)

413 The city I really want to visit is Kings Landing.....

Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (LiyEm)

414 Nood Soros

Posted by: Bill Maher at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (NF2Bf)

415 Didn't he originally posit the Big Bang as a way to help disprove God? And then he turned away from it because he felt like it actually helped prove God?

I seem to remember that being a thing with him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 14, 2018 01:37 PM (vX2zy)


The Big Bang theory was developed by George LeMaitre, who was a Roman Catholic priest (and physicist, of course) who later became the science advisor to the Vatican. LeMaitre liked the Big Bang idea because he thought it fit well with his concept of the biblical creation of the universe. That's not why he came up with it but once he did come up with it he thought it was no coincidence that it fit so well into the Biblical narrative.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (8gDQu)

416 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2018 01:34 PM (8+Ozj)

Fenelon, I meant to e-mail you - if you're interested in that Mary of Egypt opera, I can burn a copy for you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (kqsXK)

417 371 Guy made his own Knight Rider Trans Am complete with a working KITT(David Hasselhof not included)

I wondered how long it would be before someone did that, its completely feasible at this point. I mean the car won't be self aware, but it can act enough so to be convincing for a short time.


but how fast can it make it around the Turingburgring?

Posted by: Anachronda at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (sGtp+)

418 >>I'm really curious. What justifications are given for supporting the Iran deal? How does anybody justifying helping a lunatic regime go nuclear?
Muslim outreach? Hatred of Israel? A death wish? Fairness?
Somebody please explain the perspective of the deep state on this.




IIRC, there has been a group of people in DC, including John Brennan, who for many years have wanted to replace the US with Iran as the stabilizing super power in the region. Iran getting nukes does that, as it would make it difficult for US to intervene. It gets the US out of the Middle East.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (W+vEI)

419 Hawking was wheeled around Epstein's pedo island like a moving freak show. So, that's something.

Posted by: Under Fire at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (r9UYA)

420 Well, Hawking's whole God thing was tested today. I wonder what his findings were?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (ATVNj)

421 413 The city I really want to visit is Kings Landing.....
Posted by: steevy at March 14, 2018 01:42 PM (LiyEm)

Worked out well for me!

Posted by: Ned Stark at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (72PAC)

422 "White House allies warned Tillerson's senior staff for weeks that
efforts to save the nuclear deal and balk on Trump's key demands
regarding the deal could cost Tillerson his job, a warning that became
reality Tuesday when Trump fired Tillerson by tweet."

-----------------------------------------

So does this definitively answer yesterday's questions as to whether Tillerson was fired by tweet?

So the "White House" mis-lead when saying he was fired by phone? And the Deputy Under Assistant Deputy Secretary of State for Public Relations was fired as a result?

Or his trip was cut short because he was already fired but it was just not public yet which was done by tweet?


Posted by: RioBravo at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (5NMZN)

423 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (kqsXK)

That's very nice of you. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (8+Ozj)

424 370 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ?? Tang, maybe ??

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Hawking's work involving black holes is one of the only examples where we've been able to apply both our understanding of gravity and our understanding of quantum physics together in a testable manner that has come out true.

Hawking Radiation. Turns out black holes decay over time. Crazy stuff. Not sure how practical you consider that though.

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (mk7Bj)

425 He had enough sophistry in his arguments to help angry atheists fool themselves a little longer that there is no God.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 14, 2018 01:36 PM (39g3+)

I am very afraid of dying because I know there is a God. I don't think he will like me much. You pay for what you get, I guess

Posted by: REDACTED at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (VWsDy)

426 "Let me tell you about Utopia..."
-Thomas More



Let's sing about it.

On the Road to Utopia by Utopia.

Written and performed by.....wait for it....Utopia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXM02I4FLmA

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 14, 2018 01:46 PM (GdWl+)

427 I like this analysis of the Pennsylvania special election:



"Lamb went in +6 and barely won (pending challenges). He had to run
as a pro-2A, pro-life, anti-Pelosi Dem. Hardly representative of their
party.



More importantly, the seat won't exist in November."

--John Cardillo on Twitter

He had to run as Trump to win. That is a tell, isn't it?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Protect Your Despair with Gloom Guard Polish & Sealer! Only at The Outrage Outlet! at March 14, 2018 01:47 PM (hLRSq)

428 Yeah, I never was sure about Hawking's terp.

Hawking: " ngmffddkk sstggnf" ( Katy Perry has great tits)

Assistant: "Dr Hawking says we are all going to perish if we don't stop ruining the Earth with Global Warming."

Hawking: "NGMFFTHHDDDPPAS!!" (NO GODAMMIT, THATS NOT WHAT I SAID)

Assistant: "Dr Hawking needs his meds now, thankyou"



Posted by: Roland THTG at March 14, 2018 01:48 PM (xBSm0)

429 168 Has anyone put cartoon sound effects to Hillary slipping on the steps yet?

Someone at another site posted a "Keep on Trunk'n" poster, side-by-side with Hillary's stair pictures. Similarities were uncanny

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at March 14, 2018 01:49 PM (iEoIm)

430 Well, if that Russian nerve agent was ever identified in the press, or some scholarly journal, a good chemist could probably figure out the synthesis, based on the synthesis of of known similar compounds.

It's not a compound. It's a glycoprotein, IIRC. Synthesizing it would be a pain in the ass, verging onto impossible in reasonable time with a reasonable amount of effort.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2018 01:49 PM (YqDXo)

431 How is voting against a man soliciting a free trade agreement going against libertarians principle? And yes, libertarians are nothing but useless potheads.
Posted by: Soona at March 14, 2018 01:14 PM (Fs5vw)

For those who watched the last presidential election campaign, yes, Libertarians are nothing but useless potheads. There are reasons why big 'L' Libertarians pull down 2-3% in elections. That incredibly screwed-up brand is also why Libertarians such as Ron Paul and his son Rand run as Republicans.

Posted by: troyriser at March 14, 2018 01:52 PM (K8f5g)

432 370 Just asking but was there anything practical that came of Hawking's musings ??

Not really a fair question re basic science. It's like asking what a newborn has done in the world.

What did arcane studies of nuclear magnetism do that was practical? At the time, nothing. Later, NMR, a crucial analytical tool in chemistry. And from that. MRI.

Same thing with the laser, and lots of other initially "impractical" research.

By the same token, what of "practical" utility came of quantum mechanics, or general relativity? Answer: lots. In time. Not right away.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2018 01:54 PM (YqDXo)

433 I've always hoped the staff at Jezebel is mostly hot women with voracious sexual appetites. So, ACE! Please tell the pundit class to drop their resumes at Slate or Buzzfeed or something, and leave my fantasy unruffled.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, New Jersey Tax Refugee at March 14, 2018 01:56 PM (rBnYq)

434 Hawking's work involving black holes is one of the only examples where we've been able to apply both our understanding of gravity and our understanding of quantum physics together in a testable manner that has come out true.

Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (mk7Bj)


Climastrologists, please note. THIS is how you do science even when limited to observations, and cannot manipulate experimental variables.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 14, 2018 01:57 PM (YqDXo)

435 426 "Let me tell you about Utopia..."
-Thomas More

Screw that, let me tell me about my mammy

Posted by: Leon Kowalski at March 14, 2018 02:06 PM (VWsDy)

436 Hawking Radiation. Turns out black holes decay over time. Crazy stuff. Not sure how practical you consider that though.
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018 01:44 PM (mk7Bj)

But did he invent anything , like gravity

Posted by: Iggy Newton at March 14, 2018 02:09 PM (VWsDy)

437 Written and performed by.....wait for it....Utopia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXM02I4FLmA

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at March 14, 2018 01:46 PM (GdWl+)
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That's mine.

Posted by: Todd Rundgren at March 14, 2018 02:16 PM (vDqXW)

438 I misread "nuttered" as "neutered." Sounded better to me!

Posted by: BJ54 at March 14, 2018 02:23 PM (Bed/U)

439 "22 OT, willowed:

395 171 If there are an infinite number of universes, does that mean that there is one where Hillary is president?
Posted by: Joe, living mobile at March 14, 2018
*
*
Yes . . . but it's far away from here, and no transportation is available."

Not really, it just lives on in HRC's imagination. And that is not accessible from any part of the real universe(s).

Posted by: BJ54 at March 14, 2018 02:26 PM (Bed/U)

440 Unacceptable images at AOS:
"Anthony Weiner gyrating in a thong - now sweaty too!"

Gaaaaah!

Posted by: BJ54 at March 14, 2018 02:29 PM (Bed/U)

441 418
>>I'm really curious. What justifications are given for supporting
the Iran deal? How does anybody justifying helping a lunatic regime go
nuclear?

Muslim outreach? Hatred of Israel? A death wish? Fairness?

Somebody please explain the perspective of the deep state on this.









IIRC, there has been a group of people in DC, including John
Brennan, who for many years have wanted to replace the US with Iran as
the stabilizing super power in the region. Iran getting nukes does that,
as it would make it difficult for US to intervene. It gets the US out
of the Middle East.





Posted by: Lizzy at March 14, 2018 01:43 PM (W+vEI)


I tend to think that this was Barack O'Jarrett's policy with regard to Iran. Would be nice if lefties would state their polices and then run on them in elections rather that hide them and run from them.


Posted by: Ctrl C Ctrl V at March 14, 2018 02:46 PM (ymnmz)

442 Re; 110 : Very good point, willow!

Posted by: BJ54 at March 14, 2018 02:54 PM (Bed/U)

443 Admittedly the pot was simmering force long time.......
But in less than 24 hours after Tilletson publicly agreed with Britain that Russia was responsible for the terror nerve gas attack that pot boiled over and scaled Tillerson

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 04:08 PM (rg1J3)

444 JJ
The Sec of State only certifies the results
Votes are tallied in the precincts
Are there any GOP poll workers disputing the counts ? I haven't heard of any

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 04:17 PM (rg1J3)

445 Any named sources ?
All anonymous?

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 04:24 PM (rg1J3)

446 If this was a lie simmering problem he would have been warned and offered a chance to resign

Instead he was fired by tweet after blaming Putin for the terror gas attack

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 04:42 PM (rg1J3)

447 I don't think Tillerson was a leaker so there is that.

Posted by: torabora at March 14, 2018 04:51 PM (K0z2U)

448
Old MacMuzzy had a knife
E-I-E-I-O
And on the Infidel he had a jihad
E-I-E-I-O
With a stab-stab here
And a stab-stab there
Here a stab, there a stab
Everywhere a stab-stab
Old MacMuzzy had a knife
E-I-E-I-O

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 14, 2018 04:53 PM (y3sT9)

449 Why wasn't Tillerson allowed to resign if this was a long simmering problem?
Why was Trump still praising him shortly before he was fired?

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 05:04 PM (rg1J3)

450 What has Pompeo said about the terror nerve gas attack in Britain ?

Posted by: Yup at March 14, 2018 05:07 PM (rg1J3)

451 Good news! Representative Slaughter has been pumped full of formaldhyde and is good to go for a 17th term.

Posted by: MFM at March 14, 2018 05:18 PM (K0z2U)

452 United airlines put infant in overhead bin and it dies during flight. Trump's fault.

Posted by: MFM at March 14, 2018 05:20 PM (K0z2U)

453 Condi Rice and Carl Rove are spitting bullets now they are so mad about Trump's firing of their toady

Posted by: Sergeant Major at March 14, 2018 07:44 PM (vpnTD)

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