Gun Thread: Innocent or Guilty - Conclusion [Weasel]

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In last week's episode, we discussed jury duty and a trial involving firearms. For those interested in a review, last week's thread be found HERE. (do not comment in old threads!). To recap the case briefly; responding to a disturbance call, police find a felon in possession of two muzzleloading rifles which they inorrectly assume is allowable. The rifles were later surrendered to the Commonwealth Attorney's office by the defendant, with the barrels plugged, ostensibly rendering them unusable. During a subsequent search of the defendant's apartment and associated storage space, a functional revolver and ammunition are recovered. The defense caims the rifles were not technically firearms since the barrels were plugged and denied knowledge of the revolver.

Last week we paused after the jury took the first vote...

...which was 8 to 4, for acquittal. I will tell you now I was one of the four votes for a guilty verdict.

Here's my thinking:
I didn't really believe the rifles were plugged at the time of the original call because it didn't make sense to me for the defendant to keep "permanently" plugged modern rifles absent any collector or stated sentimental value. If they were not permanenetly rendered inoperable, and I did not believe they were, then the defense assertion they were no longer firearms was invalid. The defense case with respect to the rifles in general was weak and unconvincing, and while I suspected the rifles were plugged after the fact, the police had bungled that part of the case so thoroughly I decided to disregard the issue of the rifles altogether and focus on the handgun. Had there been onvincing testimony the barrels were not obstructed when first found, my decision would have been different.

The prosecution seemed to have arrived at the same conclusion in their decision to focus on the handgun. As demonstrated by photographic evidence and testimony, the manner in which the revolver was found did not in any way support the theory that it had been slipped through the space above the door and dropped, or otherwise planted, into the box where it was found. The physical arrangement of items in the storage cage made that explanation highly improbable, if not altogether impossible. The defense did not make the assertion that any specific person (e.g. a jealous girlfriend) had planted the gun, only that it could have been dropped inside by a passerby. The gun was found with other items clearly identifying and belonging to the defendant. The storage space was under the custody of the defendant which I agreed represented constructive possession of the items inside. At the end of the day the gun was in a box full of the defendant's stuff in a space controlled by him.

So we discussed these elements for a while and took another vote, and this time it was about evenly split. Back and forth some more and after a few hours it's finally 11 to 1 for a verdict of guilty. The holdout seemed steadfast but could not support or provide any logical reason for their position which, as stated, was simply not wanting to send anyone to jail. It took some time to disuade them of this opinion, mostly because I believe they were enjoying the attention, but finally it's unanimous. Guilty as charged.

Once the verdict was read in court, the trial went directly into the penalty phase. The jury is informed the sentencing guidelines dictate between 2 to 5 years in prison. No more, no less. The jury also now learns the nature of the previous felony; aggravated assault, which had been committed by the defendant in another state a few years earlier, and for which he served his time. The decision regarding a sentence comes quickly; 2 years. The consensus of the jury in choosing the minimum sentence was the fact the possession did not occur during the commission of a violent act.

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Concluding Thoughts
Last week, based on the case summary provided, you all made what I thought were compelling arguments both for and against conviction, and many of the same arguments were made in the jury room. Some of of you based your opinion on the prosecution proving (or not proving) the defendant's legal ownership of the revolver, while others seemed to base their opinion on whether it was right to deny 2nd Amendment rights to a felon who has served their time. For those in this first example, keep in mind, the charge was possession rather than ownership. For those in the second example, it may be useful to think of two concepts in law; Malum Prohibitum - wrong because it's prohibited by law but not inherently immoral (speeding, commenting in old threads), and Malum in Se - wrong because it's immoral (murder, carrots in chili, voting for liberals). I think the actions of the defendant are an excellent example of malum prohibitum.

As I heard the case I suspected the defendant's previous felony was serious, otherwise the nature of the crime would not have been suppressed. However, I did my best to focus solely on the facts at hand as I saw them; Felon + Gun = Crime. I was forced to think quite a bit about whether I wanted to convict or not based on some of the same reasoning advanced in the comments last week. In the end I realized my quandary had more to do with the question of whether I thought the law was right, rather than whether I thought a law had been broken. I had not been asked if I agreed with anything, only whether I thought, beyond a reasonable doubt, a law had been broken. Since I believed the facts and circumstances proved constructive possession, to return anything other than a guilty verdict would have meant, in my opinion, inserting myself into the legislative process.

When I said I thought I'd been selected as a juror based on my stated 2nd Amendment views during voir dire, I think the defense was hoping I'd act emotionally and vote not guilty because of the percieved infringement of the defendant's 2nd Amendment rights. Does this mean I personally adhere to each and every law simply because it exists? No. Would I blindly adhere to a law I found so objectionable I was otherwise unwilling to obey? I'll leave that to your imagination. Suffice it to say I would make that decision accepting the risk of punishment for my actions, and hoping they would be judged dispassionately.

Sending someone to prison is not an easy thing to do. How would you decide the case, and if guilty, what length of a sentence would you impose?

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Link-O-Rama
Only one link this week. Since we've been discussing the law and firearms, I recommend this excellent presentation by fellow Moron and Legal Hombre Andrew Branca on his highly acclaimed website and blog, The Law of Self Defense. Mr. B is offering a great review of, well, the law of self defense, and this presentation is FREE though tonight. (h/t CBD)


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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Would have been first but I stopped to read the content.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:31 PM (JUOKG)

2 Finally. Cripes. I was giving this one away.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:31 PM (14URa)

3 Would have been first but I stopped to read the content.




Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:31 PM
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Huh........

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (JUOKG)

4 Content? That's what halftime is for.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:33 PM (14URa)

5 Everything that guy just said was bullshit.

Posted by: Vinny Gambini at January 20, 2019 07:33 PM (UGqF8)

6 No range this week.
Next week I think.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 07:33 PM (0tfLf)

7 One simple question.....did anyone check the handgun for prints?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:34 PM (JUOKG)

8 6 No range this week.
Next week I think.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 07:33 PM (0tfLf)
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Same here. Haven't been to the farm in a few weeks. Combination of weather and work.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

9 Yes. Yes, I have been to the range - a lot!
Took the concealed carry course - again - because I had let mine lapse. Then went to the range again today to shoot a new Kimber 9mm my husband snuck into the house, and to try out one of his .45's because I can't decide what I want to carry.

Posted by: antisocialist at January 20, 2019 07:34 PM (2shuf)

10 Can't hang long tonight, enough to read the content

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (/rm4P)

11 MoMe name badges have been shipped and will be in bluebell's hands Wednesday.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (IcJtd)

12 One simple question.....did anyone check the handgun for prints?


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:34 PM (JUOKG)
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I don't think prints were found on the revolver

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

13
Cars these days don't even have grills. They have slits.
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Apparently you haven't encountered a Lexus RC:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8lzv4gv

Posted by: Mike Hammer



I should've have know that because I have an older Lexus RX.

The new RX's have ridiculously huge grills. Infinitis, too. And Lincolns. It's a new trend.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (prTbl)

14 Interesting analysis, Weasel. Still not sure how I would have voted. Given my interest in history, I might have suggested a week in the stocks.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 07:36 PM (bmdz3)

15 Seems Israel is attacking Iran and Syria is trying to shoot down their planes.

Or, another day ending in Y.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 20, 2019 07:36 PM (pUDQf)

16 First?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 20, 2019 07:36 PM (bjCNA)

17 . . . not even close (but I did read the content).

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 20, 2019 07:36 PM (bjCNA)

18 MoMe name badges have been shipped and will be in bluebell's hands Wednesday.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (IcJtd)
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Thanks!!! But can she be trusted?

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:36 PM (MVjcR)

19 So, the trial was not won in the Court, but was successfully argued by some members of the Jury, enough to sway 8 from not guilty to guilty.

I find that... disturbing actually.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (NgKpN)

20 11
MoMe name badges have been shipped and will be in bluebell's hands Wednesday.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (IcJtd)
We don't need no stinkin' badges.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (14URa)

21 Mr. Weasel, the yankee government is going to attempt to bend the fabric of the universe to find us all guilty of some crime which will deprive us of not only our GOD-Giver right to self defense. They intend to take all our rights. Then will follow denunciations, show trials, and the gulag. I ain't going to no gulag.

Posted by: Eromero at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (zLDYs)

22 Lt. Tragg said you don't usually find prints on a gun.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (aKsyK)

23 Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 07:36 PM (bmdz3)
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Yeah - it certainly wasn't a straightforward case, that's for sure.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

24
I'm thinking that maybe tomorrow I'll get another extension cord (I don't think the one I have is long enough) and just put a space heater in it.

This is a good way to light your car on fire from the inside out.

I'd rather you use a HAIR DRYER and just concentrate on one small area. When that starts melting, you'll be able to get under the ice with the scraper.

Do it now at Halftime!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (prTbl)

25 As I posted last week on a subsequent thread. I was put in such a position at a federal trial. The defendant was a career criminal and I was called forward by the judge because I indicated on the jury questionnaire that I though all federal gun laws and drug laws were unconstitutional. The judge asked if I could render a fair verdict on this case which was guns and drugs. I say yes I can. So the defendant's lawyer knew I would send him up the creek. He had to use one of his three strikes to keep me off.

I would not have convicted him on the gun laws themselves, but on the fact that he was a career criminal and still dealing drugs. If it had been a State case there would have been no question of convicting him.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (mpXpK)

26 i would have been your holdout on the pistol, and would not have been dissuaded on the charge.

absent specific proof that he indeed owned the firearm or used it, finding it in a common area, *after* he surrendered the other weapons, smells.

that takes me well below the "reasonable doubt" threshold to convict.

YMMV

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (pbYL9)

27 Mr. Weasel, the yankee government is going to attempt to bend the fabric of the universe to find us all guilty of some crime which will deprive us of not only our GOD-Giver right to self defense. They intend to take all our rights. Then will follow denunciations, show trials, and the gulag. I ain't going to no gulag.


Posted by: Eromero at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (zLDYs)
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me neither.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (MVjcR)

28 So, the trial was not won in the Court, but was successfully argued by some members of the Jury, enough to sway 8 from not guilty to guilty.

I find that... disturbing actually.
Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 07:37 PM (NgKpN)


So, you've never sat on a jury.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (T71PA)

29 I don't think prints were found on the revolver
Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (MVjcR)

That would cause me to vote 'not guilty'. The prosecution failed in its burden of proof, and I hope this conviction was reversed on appeal.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (l7Kbv)

30 Old and Busted: Twelve Angry Men

New Hotness: One Angry Weasel

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:39 PM (Ct55T)

31 Timeout!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 07:39 PM (9gHOW)

32 MoMes and being a juror are very similar.

Get a some people together, throw them in a room, and come up with an answer.


Except at a MoMe, there are no instructions, or judges.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 07:40 PM (sy5kK)

33 Another one who didn't get to the range this week and probably not this coming week. If it's warm enough, it's raining. If it's cold it's snowing. Bummer.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 07:40 PM (bmdz3)

34 Only pass I would have given for a plugged rifle would be as a reenactment prop.
Thanks for that story Weasel.

Good night horde.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (/rm4P)

35 Rabble. No range visit this week.

Friday's vision scare (I'm fine, just old, retina did not detach, just stretch marks) means I was not allowed to go shooting.

Rabble, I say!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (P+FGJ)

36 ice on the windshield is easy to deal with...

just throw a big pot of boiling water on it!


Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (pbYL9)

37

Fill a bottle with Hot Water. Go outside and pour on a small section or corner, just to get a little spot melted. Then your scraper will.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (prTbl)

38 Still would have voted not guilty.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (IfYaq)

39 Same here. Haven't been to the farm in a few weeks. Combination of weather and work.
Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:34 PM

*******

Mostly weather for me.
It's cold.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 07:42 PM (0tfLf)

40 I'd rather you use a HAIR DRYER and just
concentrate on one small area. When that starts melting, you'll be able
to get under the ice with the scraper.



Do it now at Halftime!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (prTbl)
Google search results strongly advises against using a hairdryer.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:42 PM (14URa)

41
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (pbYL9)
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The charge was possession, not owning, and as I mentioned above I thought the prosecution proved constructive possession. But I'll put you down as a not guilty. Thanks for an interesting take on the reasonable doubt threshold

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:42 PM (MVjcR)

42
Google search results strongly advises against using a hairdryer.

Internet is full of idiots.

I know what I'm talking about, on the other hand!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:43 PM (prTbl)

43 >(IcJtd)
We don't need no stinkin' badges.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019



And why aren't you coming dear?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (IcJtd)

44 I guarantee that 9 out of 10 Democrats think that the picture in the cartoon is an accurate diagram of a Glock AR-47.

Posted by: Surfperch at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (tVQUs)

45 I don't think prints were found on the revolver

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (MVjcR)



That would cause me to vote 'not guilty'. The prosecution failed in
its burden of proof, and I hope this conviction was reversed on appeal.


Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM

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If no one checked the revolver for prints, that tells me that there were no prints of the defendant on the revolver. why didn't his defense lawyer(s) ask that basic question?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (JUOKG)

46 Oh, thank goodness. We get to the verdict. Now to read.

Posted by: RI Red at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (EkWUh)

47 An observation I've made at a few range / gun retailer combos is some of the employees remind me of the SNL IT guy skit. They're not overtly rude but you can see the frustration and shortness they have with the semi-neophyte non-buying customer and what must seem to them overly simple or even stupid questions. Apparent Non-buying being the key descriptor of the customer. It's kind of funny watching it.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (2DOZq)

48 Google search results strongly advises against using a hairdryer.


Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:42 PM (14URa)


Google search results also advise against supporting Donald Trump.

Unless the results are censored altogether.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (sy5kK)

49
That would cause me to vote 'not guilty'. The prosecution failed in its burden of proof, and I hope this conviction was reversed on appeal.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (l7Kbv)
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I'd agree if it were a murder case, but not possession. He didn't have to be holding it to be in "possession"

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:45 PM (MVjcR)

50 I'd rather you use a HAIR DRYER and just concentrate on one small area. When that starts melting, you'll be able to get under the ice with the scraper.


I haven't used a hair dryer since 1976.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:45 PM (fuK7c)

51
A hair dryer is not much different from the hot air coming out of your car's vents directly onto the glass.

Gooogle doesn't know shit. Listen to what I' telling you.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:45 PM (prTbl)

52 Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (/rm4P)
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'night Skip!

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:46 PM (MVjcR)

53 Guilty trash person.

Posted by: J. Goldberg at January 20, 2019 07:46 PM (nw6G5)

54 Google search results strongly advises against using a hairdryer.

Internet is full of idiots.

I know what I'm talking about, on the other hand!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:43 PM (prTbl)
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I once used a butane torch to do that.

Applied the heat, Crrraaaack went the windshield.

I was young and even more stupid than I am now.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 07:46 PM (T71PA)

55
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The charge was possession, not owning, and as I mentioned above I thought the prosecution proved constructive possession. But I'll put you down as a not guilty. Thanks for an interesting take on the reasonable doubt threshold
Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:42 PM (MVjcR)

For what it's worth I think you made the proper verdict.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:46 PM (2DOZq)

56 And why aren't you coming dear?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (IcJtd)
I try not to go more than 5 miles from my house. And, in this weather, more like 1 mile. Plus, I'm in Indianapolis. :-)

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:46 PM (14URa)

57

Then use a bottle of Hot Water.

Pour it on the lower corner closest to you and get one small spot melted.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:46 PM (prTbl)

58 44
I guarantee that 9 out of 10 Democrats think that the picture in the cartoon is an accurate diagram of a Glock AR-47.

Posted by: Surfperch at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (tVQUs)

Yes, and it is black. All I need to know!

Posted by: Democrat Lawmakers at January 20, 2019 07:47 PM (sy5kK)

59 If no one checked the revolver for prints, that tells me that there were
no prints of the defendant on the revolver. why didn't his defense
lawyer(s) ask that basic question?
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In a similar vein, did either the defense or prosecution present a gun trace? You know, the manufacturer transferred the firearm to FFL holder X, who transferred to ...???

Posted by: Lurk at January 20, 2019 07:47 PM (j3frD)

60 Fill a bottle with Hot Water. Go outside and pour on a small section or corner, just to get a little spot melted. Then your scraper will.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (prTbl)

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He may as well just order the new windshield now and use a hammer to crack the ice than do this.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 20, 2019 07:47 PM (ffYR/)

61 Good reporting here on the black supremacists who had been taunting the R.C. schoolkids ...

https://twitter.com/StewartMills/status/
1086986144456237056

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (Evws/)

62
One time, I had frozen locks.

You know what I did?

I heated the key with a Bic lighter and jammed it in the door lock. It worked.

I Am Very Resourceful.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (prTbl)

63 I once used a butane torch to do that.



Applied the heat, Crrraaaack went the windshield.



Posted by: DR.WTF

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MAPP gas would have cracked it faster.

Just say'n.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (9rIkM)

64
If no one checked the revolver for prints, that tells me that there were no prints of the defendant on the revolver. why didn't his defense lawyer(s) ask that basic question?


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (JUOKG)
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I don't recall the defense even mentioning it. Probably wasn't necessary for 'constructive' possession.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (MVjcR)

65 Peaches, sorry I won't see you in person this time.



Do you know Heather Radish?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (IcJtd)

66 Weasel/bluebell, Congratulations for the fine thing you are doing with the NOVA MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:49 PM (+0faA)

67 Do you know Heather Radish?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (IcJtd)
Gosh, I love that girl. Haven't seen her here in ages. She going to the MoMee?

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:49 PM (14URa)

68


You're not going to crack the glass with hot water.

Just do it.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:49 PM (prTbl)

69 I was willowed on other thread but I poured warm water on my windshield many a time with no negative consequences to quickly remove ice.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:50 PM (2DOZq)

70 OT

That idiot D-Rep from KY (Yarmouth) now says he was just kidding about banning MAGA hats for teens.

He is being suitably ridiculed on Twitter.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 07:50 PM (NtglE)

71 In a similar vein, did either the defense or prosecution present a gun trace? You know, the manufacturer transferred the firearm to FFL holder X, who transferred to ...???


Posted by: Lurk at January 20, 2019 07:47 PM (j3frD)
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only to determine if it was stolen. He wasn't charges with 'ownership' he was charged with possession.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:50 PM (MVjcR)

72 Everybody into the showers! Last one in is a rotten egg!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 07:50 PM (9gHOW)

73 The best way to get rid of ice on a car is park it in a garage.

Posted by: Ronster at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (ga6M+)

74 Peaches, no HR at the M0Me. Love her too. She was always one of my favs here.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (IcJtd)

75 Do you know Heather Radish?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM (IcJtd)
Gosh, I love that girl. Haven't seen her here in ages. She going to the MoMee?



She married a Kraut and has been living in Krautistan for the last three or four years. I wouldn't expect her at MoMee.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (fuK7c)

76 Weasel/bluebell, Congratulations for the fine thing you are doing with the NOVA MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:49 PM (+0faA)
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Thanks Ben Had! I just hope we can begin to approach the level of excellence in your TX MoMe's!

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (MVjcR)

77

Radish moved to Germany. I think her German husband might've eaten her.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (prTbl)

78 No range time this week (or last). Too cold is my excuse, although I've gone shooting in the past when it was colder than today.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 20, 2019 07:52 PM (bjCNA)

79 You wimped out. Jury nullification! 2A forever!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 07:52 PM (1UZdv)

80 Radish moved to Germany. I think her German husband might've eaten her.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (prTbl)


They do that, don't they.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:52 PM (t+qrx)

81 I can't remember from last week but, did the prosecution tell you who ratted the guy out?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (yQpMk)

82 I'd agree if it were a murder case, but not possession. He didn't have to be holding it to be in "possession"
Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:45 PM (MVjcR)

No prints on a gun in a case means that someone wanted the gun found in his 'possession'. In the parlance, it is a drop gun or a throw away. The fact it was a 'tip' a week later that caused said gun to be found raises my suspicion. If they had found it during the initial call I'd have less of a problem.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (l7Kbv)

83 NO NO NO to boiling water thrown on a windshield. It will crack. Ask me how I know.

YES to a watering can of hot water trickled or sprinkled over the windshield to melt the ice or snow. Been doing that for, oh, 20 years. Gets all the windows and headlights cleared faster than you can scrape the windshield only.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (GseGc)

84 Soothi. The monkeys say that was uncalled for.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (IcJtd)

85 69 I was willowed on other thread but I poured warm water on my windshield many a time with no negative consequences to quickly remove ice.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:50 PM (2DOZq)

Timeout!

Cracked windshields at -20f

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (wNN8A)

86 Weasel, every MoMe is a chance for the Horde to meet each other and that is excellence in itself.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:54 PM (+0faA)

87 When my windshield is iced over, I go inside and go back to bed.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 20, 2019 07:54 PM (IfYaq)

88
Nobody suggested boiling water.

Hot Water. As in, nice-hot-shower hot.

Warm water is a waste of time. Hot water.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (prTbl)

89 I am disappointed. I think I would've voted not guilty.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (BJlbN)

90 Woof.

Posted by: J. Goldberg at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (nw6G5)

91 So we have 20 million people that do not belong! Have no rights but enjoy our freedoms.

So 1 out of 10 driver in US the is a good chance 6 are trying to kill themselves or you.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (JFO2v)

92
Radish moved to Germany. I think her German husband might've eaten her.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:51 PM (prTbl)

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Either that or the internet hasn't made it to Germany yet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (UGqF8)

93 If no one checked the revolver for prints, that
tells me that there were no prints of the defendant on the revolver. why
didn't his defense lawyer(s) ask that basic question?





Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:44 PM (JUOKG)

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I don't recall the defense even mentioning it. Probably wasn't necessary for 'constructive' possession.


Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:48 PM

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No prints equals no possession on my part. You can't be in possession of a gun if you never touched it. And from what little we have been told, this guy was no rocket surgeon. That plus the fact that no one even asked who all had access to the storage area.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (JUOKG)

94
The monkeys say that was uncalled for.

It's just weird how she disappeared.

She popped up a couple of times since she moved, but that was a long time ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:56 PM (prTbl)

95
No prints on a gun in a case means that someone wanted the gun found in his 'possession'. In the parlance, it is a drop gun or a throw away. The fact it was a 'tip' a week later that caused said gun to be found raises my suspicion. If they had found it during the initial call I'd have less of a problem.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (l7Kbv)
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As I mentioned, I thought, and the others agreed, a drop or plant was extremely unlikely or impossible given the physical layout of the storage area and where the gun was found in relationship to the door. Your argument is a good one though, and was sort of why I thought the topic would make an interesting discussion.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:57 PM (MVjcR)

96
Radish moved to Germany & Twitter.

FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 07:57 PM (KCxzN)

97 The defense did miss one simple point.

The Police used the muskets, which were apparently LEGAL, as probable cause to search.

Can you use a LEGAL possession as probable cause to search for an illegal possession?

I think lawyers call that 'Fruit of a poison tree'?

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 07:58 PM (NgKpN)

98 I can't remember from last week but, did the prosecution tell you who ratted the guy out?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 07:53 PM (yQpMk)
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someone involved in the original investigation

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:58 PM (MVjcR)

99 Weasel:

A suggestion for a topic for a future gun thread is rifle scopes. In particular, I'm interested in scopes that are worth buying, that are not astronomically priced. Spending a grand or more on a scope is simply not an option for me.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 20, 2019 07:59 PM (bjCNA)

100 "Boomstick Control"

What? Oh, you mean guns. For a moment we thought you meant we should've signed Nelson Cruz for more than just one year.

Posted by: Minnesota Twins at January 20, 2019 07:59 PM (786Ro)

101 Gun thread update: LaRue PredatOBR has been ordered.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at January 20, 2019 07:59 PM (vcatx)

102 I am disappointed. I think I would've voted not guilty.
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 07:55 PM (BJlbN)


I think I would have too. The defendant doesn't have to prove anything. The state does. I don't see that they did, on the muzzleloaders.

The exception is the handgun; I don't recall the particulars but if he was the only one with access to the storage cage then the revolver is his. He can't take it to prison with him though. That's against the law.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:59 PM (t+qrx)

103 35 Rabble. No range visit this week.

Friday's vision scare (I'm fine, just old, retina did not detach, just stretch marks) means I was not allowed to go shooting.

Rabble, I say!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 20, 2019 07:41 PM (P+FGJ)

I hear cocoa butter can reduce the appearance of stretch marks.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 07:59 PM (NWiLs)

104 someone involved in the original investigation


Did they have motive to plant the weapon?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 08:00 PM (yQpMk)

105 although you know if the defendant gave me the heebie jeebies I might have voted guilty
I'd be a terrible juror

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 08:00 PM (BJlbN)

106 and was sort of why I thought the topic would make an interesting discussion.
Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:57 PM (MVjcR)

It is an interesting topic, to be sure. I was called for a case where the perp tried to claim his dealer offered him a great deal on distribution quantities of drugs ala a Costco discount card type situation because he wanted to throw a party and that is why he had so much.

Yeah. Guilty.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at January 20, 2019 08:01 PM (l7Kbv)

107 Wait will there be shooting at the NoVaMoMe?

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 08:01 PM (ZfRYq)

108 If I am to understand the internet correctly, the Saints took it in the Taint by the refs.

Great job nfl!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 20, 2019 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

109 Gosh, I love that girl. Haven't seen her here in ages. She going to the MoMee?


Posted by: Peaches at January

Long flight from Germany, I think.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 08:01 PM (9L2du)

110 Since I haven't beden shooting, I've been che checking the guns, especially the black powder stuff. Not a speck of rust anywhere and I mean to keep it that way. Renaissance Wax is great at protecting the outside of the pieces, both wood and metal.

In the meantime I realize there are some guns I haven't fired in a while. So I start thinking: if I had to thin the herd, which ones would go. It's a mental exercise right now but it does force me to think of my shooting habits and preferences.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 08:01 PM (bmdz3)

111 The defense did miss one simple point.

The Police used the muskets, which were apparently LEGAL, as probable cause to search.

Can you use a LEGAL possession as probable cause to search for an illegal possession?

I think lawyers call that 'Fruit of a poison tree'?

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 07:58 PM (NgKpN)
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the muzzleloaders were illegal. The cops were just stupid. The search warrant was obtained during the course of the investigation to look for additional weapons.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 08:02 PM (MVjcR)

112 Weasel:

A suggestion for a topic for a future gun thread is rifle scopes. In particular, I'm interested in scopes that are worth buying, that are not astronomically priced. Spending a grand or more on a scope is simply not an option for me.


Posted by: Iowa Bob at January 20, 2019 07:59 PM (bjCNA)
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it's on my list! thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 08:02 PM (MVjcR)

113 No prints on the gun makes me suspicious. Cops could have put it there.

Posted by: freaked at January 20, 2019 08:03 PM (UdKB7)

114 The Police used the muskets, which were apparently LEGAL, as probable cause to search.

I believe Weasel explained last week that for purposes of Virginia law, the rifles were not legal for a person with a felony conviction to own.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at January 20, 2019 08:03 PM (NYgVq)

115
I watched a movie with guns, last night.

Hell Or High Water
Jeff Bridges and his stupid old cowboy fake voice.

Slowly it turned into an anti-white anti-bankster movie.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 08:04 PM (prTbl)

116 Radish moved to Germany & Twitter.


Correct. Alexthechick is my conduit to the twats and she says that Radish is still active there.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 08:04 PM (fuK7c)

117 No prints on the gun makes me suspicious. Cops could have put it there.


Posted by: freaked at January 20, 2019 08:03 PM

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Yep and that gun should have been checked for prints the second it was found. A "clean" gun is a dirty gun.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (JUOKG)

118 Did they have motive to plant the weapon?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 08:00 PM (yQpMk)
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Not that we heard in court - the defense didn't pursue it. I think it was a cousin of the accused.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (MVjcR)

119 More about the Indian professional activist...
https://twitter.com/markwonderful/status/
1087133503437733891

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (Evws/)

120 Should've convicted the cops, the prosecutors and the district attorney.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (NWiLs)

121 Is there a football game today? Fuck!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (gC2IV)

122 Howdy. Went to the indoor range. Was gonna go to my regular range and maintain my shot group, but. Rain. Lots of RAIN! I don't have a platoon of 40 kids to set an example for anymore so I wussed out. Yeah. I know. if I cannot do it when I should, I WON'T do it when I need to. Need to work on my poor attitude before it bites menin the ass.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (8ZeGS)

123 A reasonable scope is the Nikon with BDC. Phenominal.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 20, 2019 08:05 PM (vFL+H)

124 Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at January 20, 2019 08:03 PM (NYgVq)
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yep. thanks

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 08:06 PM (MVjcR)

125 I watched a movie with guns last night too. 13 Hours.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 08:06 PM (+0faA)

Food Thread: Pittsburgh Isn't Just A City In Pennsylvania: Steak And All Its Glorious Variations

pittsburgh steak.jpg

Oh, Rare is Rare and Well-done is Well-done, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God's great Judgment Seat; But there is neither Rare nor Well-done, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth, When two strong men stand face to face, though they come from the ends of the earth!
Well...maybe, but my money is still on a big argument about the temperature of the steak.

For the purposes of this discussion and, for that matter my social circle, I shall discard the concept of "well-done," because it doesn't belong in polite company, and is sort of gross. Now, I speak only of beef steak. I'll eat well-done lamb until the...um...cows come home. And I have no idea why! Weird...I'll eat every temperature of lamb (and most of pork, although medium is of course the breakfast of champions), but cook my beefsteak a tad past medium rare and you and I will have words. Angry words. Mean and nasty and cutting words.

But the steak up top is even better than rare. Some call it "Pittsburgh," some call it "Black and Blue," but I call it delicious. It's that wonderful combination of marvelous bloody rare beef with crispy -- practically burnt -- fat and gristle. It's usually the purview of steakhouses and people with gas-turbine powered grills, but it can be done at home. It's just tougher in the winter, when the ambient temperature really hurts the top-end heat inside the grill. My gas grill loses about 75 degrees between high summer and the depths of winter. I nailed it a few nights ago, but I cannot figure out what the hell I did differently. In fact, it was damned cold outside and I wasn't paying much attention at all. So if you came here for advice on how to replicate that gem up top (click on it...it's almost perfect), you came to the wrong place.

I will however critique it, and while it looks delicious, it isn't quite perfect. there is too much overcooked meat between the blue and the black, and that tells me the grill wasn't hot enough, which should tell you how hot* the grill should be.

Oh, did you notice "fat and gristle?" Good. Because that is an integral part of any great steak. Crispy, practically liquid fat is one of the joys of eating, and a piece of gristle, coated with that fat and softened and crisped by the heat is an unsung glory of the carnivorous arts.

*Hot. Very hot. 700+ degrees. Thus the desire for a gas-turbine grill.

******

Commenter "lone ranger" sent me this link, and as is almost always the case with Garden & Gun, it's a fun article that's worth a read.
Everyone Agrees: Here’s the Key to the Perfect Bloody Mary
Because we at G&G couldn't agree, we asked readers for their secrets to make a perfect Bloody Mary. Hundreds of Facebook and Instagram comments later, we've found the unequivocal no-doubt-about-it truth on how to make a flawless drink.
There is a recipe in there that calls for "tomato water," and that looks interesting. Sometimes the drink is just too damned thick!

This is one of those drinks that I will rarely make for myself. My default is to add more booze, and strangely, that doesn't work with this drink. But add-ons are something else entirely. I had one in Charleston with, among other things, a large boiled shrimp hanging on the edge of the glass, accompanied by some sort of okra thing that was actually edible, and it was great!

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This is pretty amusing, and the guy eventually makes a gorgeous classic omelet. But part of me thinks that the French fascination with a colorless and perfectly-shaped omelet is a little weird. If you are careful, the eggs don't get tough and you can still get a bit of lovely browning. I sometimes use brown butter in the pan, just for an extra pop of flavor and for that incredible caramelly color.

[Hat Tip: Golfman]

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From commenter "Bildo," Who has obviously correctly diagnosed the issue!
I used to make oriental chicken wings back in the late '70s and early '80s by cutting up wire coat hangers to make hooks I could use to hang them under the top oven rack, covered in barbecue sauce and cooked really low and slow.

They'd come out so tender you could eat them bones and all. Yeah, the bones softened up when I cooked them like this.

I suspect that I've self-medicated away the part of my brain that has to do with oriental chicken wings time and temperature.

I would appreciate it if you or any of the Horde can help with this recipe.

I have never heard of anything like this, but trust the inscrutable oriental mind to dream up a dish in which even the bones are consumed.

I am intrigued, so help out Bildo and his compromised cerebellum! Anyone have any idea how to do this?

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These kinds of lists are almost always silly, with a far-too-large dose of what's popular on the internet, but there are a few gems in this version. They are batting .500 in Vermont, although how they missed "The Hatchery" in Ludlow is beyond me. I go miles out of my way to eat breakfast there! And "Bette's Oceanview Diner" in Berkeley really is fantastic. New York has some safe choices, but let's face it, breakfast is personal. For instance, if the coffee isn't excellent, then strike it off my list. For others, the fluffiness of the pancakes or how many different kinds of salt they have for the French Toast is the most important thing.

Anyway, poke around it and report back to the rest of The Horde how badly they screwed up your state...

The Best Breakfast in Every State

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Uierboord: Cow udder is enjoying a resurgence as a sandwich filler in Rotterdam. Remind me never to go to Rotterdam.
Ketchup Chips: This Canadian favorite is relatively unknown elsewhere.
And thank God for that!
Dancing Shrimp: Thai street vendors serve this spicy seafood while it's still moving. Yeah...no. The only thing I will eat while it is still alive is oysters and clams. I think.
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Food and cooking tips, triple-cream cheeses, young wild pigs, Venison Steak and Eggs (Swiped from Garrett), thick and fluffy pita and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit.

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1 Just trying to decide what to eat tonight during The Game.

Posted by: HH at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (mIJBI)

2 I've been waiting here for hours. Where have you guys been?

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (T6t7i)

3 Steak? Oh, I have ideas about steak all right.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:12 PM (UGqF8)

4 I saw Burnt Gristle play at St. Andrews Hall with Pere Ubu.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:12 PM (kQs4Y)

5 I knew CBD would get through eventually

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 05:13 PM (/rm4P)

6 We're snowed in. I made carnitas. Terribly simple, tons of meat

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 20, 2019 05:13 PM (z2W2E)

7 My wife used to like her steaks well done. Ruin a good piece of meat. I had to put her steak on the grill 10 or 15 min before mine.


Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 05:13 PM (mpXpK)

8 CBD I think the horde was about to send a search party out looking for you, lol. An impatient bunch we are.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (dUJdY)

9 Speaking of Pittsburgh, I've been to Primanti's a few times during my travels, and I don't get it. It just doesn't grab me. {Ducks from steel-toed boots thrown in my direction}

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (VigyG)

10 Well. Good morning, CBD. They finally threw you out of the bar?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (Qjgq3)

11 But the steak up top is even better than rare. Some call it
"Pittsburgh," some call it "Black and Blue," but I call it delicious.



Sheesh. Why don't you just club a cow out in the field and devour him while squatting on your haunches around a fire?

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

12 Hey Eris, they mentioned Zingerman's for one of the Michigan breakfasts...

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (t+qrx)

13 (click on it...it's almost perfect)

Yeah, what's with all the vegetables? You going vegan?

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (/D1gp)

14 Took my wife awhile to get me from well cooked beef

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (/rm4P)

15 Devour her. Cows are not hims.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (T6t7i)

16 I want to make this tomato tart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hhK_gOdbBM

It's so simple but it sounds (tho not looks) delicious.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (kQs4Y)

17 Just stopping in to say charred fat on a steak is best fat.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (7PLM4)

18 I've gotten kind of interested in dry aging steak. Has anyone ever actually tried it at home? And if so, did you kill anyone?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (UGqF8)

19 My wife used to like her steaks well done.

I can do them well or well done. Big difference, though.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 05:16 PM (/D1gp)

20 Dammit, CBD, I've been so worried. And I have always put maple syrup on my french toast. There, I said it.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 05:16 PM (14URa)

21 Did JackStraw dance his way over here yet?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:18 PM (Qjgq3)

22 As in so many other things, I'm a barbarian here, and will skip the raw beef.


But a question occurred to me.


If Weasel did a hunting version of the Gub Thread, should he and CBD cross the streams, and just do a Game Recipe Food Thread?


And this confirms I need to go disassemble the 1911 for an overdue full cleaning, and reload some mroe 38spl. Too much time on my hands if questions like this are coming up.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:18 PM (QDnY+)

23 Well done, no pink.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 05:19 PM (ePWRo)

24 My gas grill loses about 75 degrees between high summer and the depths of winter. I nailed it a few nights ago, but I cannot figure out what the hell I did differently. In fact, it was damned cold outside and I wasn't paying much attention at all.
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Wind, or lack of. I bet it was quite calm, and the thermals were stable and undisturbed around the grilling unit.

Construct a wind screen around the grille for winter useage.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 05:19 PM (wNN8A)

25 Anything more than medium rare and the beef is ruint.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 05:19 PM (NWiLs)

26 I know people who like their steaks pretty much well done.

A lot of people have simply never tried properly cooked meat, they refuse to try it, so they don't know what they are missing. These people are fools.

Others have tried medium to medium rare meat and simply don't like it. They don't like the texture or the flavor. So, hey, good on ya. It's all about utility. If a properly cooked steak is "gross" to you, but a mutilated, dried out piece of might-as-well-have-made-jerky is your idea of heaven? Hey, man, you bought it. You do you. I don't care if you soak it in kerosene, shove it into a model rocket, and shoot it into the sky. Whatever gives you utility.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:20 PM (Ct55T)

27 In this era of the quick hook-up, dating has become a matter of meeting, maybe having a nice meal and then hopping in the sack.

Dating is now just a gamble:

1. "Hi"

2. Steaks

3. Poke 'er

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:20 PM (m45I2)

28 I don't like eating chunks of meat (except perhaps for the fatty parts) so I'll catch you guys later.

And my West African self would rather my meat still not be mooing and bloody before I eat it.

Oh, and I also put maple syrup on my French toast (yummy). When I allow myself to indulge in French toast. The metabolism isn't what it used to be.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:21 PM (9hauA)

29 My gas grill loses about 75 degrees between high summer and the depths of winter. I nailed it a few nights ago, but I cannot figure out what the hell I did differently. In fact, it was damned cold outside and I wasn't paying much attention at all.


It doesn't get too cold here in SoCal but even so if I'm going to do steaks on the gas grill outside in winter I have to heat it for a solid 40 minutes to get it to the necessary temp.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:21 PM (UGqF8)

30 If Weasel did a hunting version of the Gub Thread, should he and CBD cross the streams, and just do a Game Recipe Food Thread?
Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:18 PM (QDnY+)


It's been done, kind of.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=361185

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:21 PM (t+qrx)

31 Fill your chimney starter with charcoal or wood chunks and light it as usual. Once the coals are nice and bright, put the grate right on top of it. Close as you'll get to the jet turbine grill.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (gC2IV)

32 OT: dang, this fake newz thing with the school group sort of confirms how far gone the country is. Even dim chubs McCain joined the lynch mob.


Is it possible the country and civic culture are even more pathetically collapsed than I thought?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (QDnY+)

33 Dating is now just a gamble:

1. "Hi"

2. Steaks

3. Poke 'er
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:20 PM (m45I2)


Nice, but it seems like you could have worked "liquor" in there somewhere.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (UGqF8)

34 Best thing about the omelet video is the background music. Anyone want to venture a guess?

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (T6t7i)

35 Rare meat eaters are like atheists, always defensive.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (ePWRo)

36 They did ok on the Texas section of breakfasts, but only skimmed the surface, particularly with the almost non-existent discussion of migas.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 05:23 PM (DMUuz)

37 Now that the food thread is up (thanks, CBD!) I'll repost my question from the previous thread:
Any thoughts on/experiences with air fryers?

Thanks to Froderick and USNtakim for your responses on the last thread.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2019 05:23 PM (XXNQ+)

38 To each his own but I would never cook a 2+ inch filet on a gas grill.

Perfection is a good crust on the outside and blood red on the inside and the smothered in mushrooms.

I also prefer no fat in my meat!

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:23 PM (+0faA)

39 I made the nomato sauce on Sat. for pizza. It worked out quite well. No, it doesn't taste like actual tomato sauce. It tastes like a veggie sauce because it is a veggie sauce, but sometimes wolf peaches are too much stomach lava.

1 medium beet, topped and tailed
1 large rib of celery, de-stringed
2 medium carrots, peeled
1 medium onion, peeled, quartered
handful of washed button mushrooms, quartered
2 - 2500 cloves of garlic, unpeeled
high temp spray oil
1/4 tsp of vegetable bouilon
1 tsp balsamic vinegar
pinch of salt
pinch of fresh ground pepper
dried basil
dried parsely
2 tablespoons extra light olive oil

Makes 2.5 ish cups of sauce

Spray or lightly coat the veg in a high temp oil.

Roast the beet, carrots, onion quarters, and celery in a broiler at high for 10-15 min. Add the mushrooms, wait 10 min, add the garlic. Flip veg periodically to avoid burning.

Remove the veg as they brown starting with the garlic. Peel garlic and smash.

Rough chop the veg, and add all to a tall sauce pan with the vegetable bouillon mixed in the cup of water.

Skin beet; it'll be super hot, so use tongs and scrape off the skin with a sharp knife. Rough chop the skinned beet, add to sauce pan.

Simmer low all veg w/o lid for 15 min.

Let cool uncovered for another 15 min. Add all to a blender* plus the seasonings (balsamic, salt, basil, parsley), pulse blend on low adding the, olive oil until the mixture is smooth but still thick, without lumps and not watery. Add water if too thick to blend.

S and P to taste and mix. Don't do a long simmer with other ingredients; it will turn watery and become unmanageable unless you add pectin or some other
thickening agent.

* Blending with hot ingredients is inherently dangerous, as you know, so you've removed the weird plastic plug in the center of the blender lid and put a towel over the opening, yes? Good.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (ZejZP)

40 >>Did JackStraw dance his way over here yet?

Putting the finishing touches on the chili.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (/tuJf)

41 Cicero - 40 minutes? Problem with the grill? Or do you have some fancy-shmancy grill that goes to 10,000 degrees or whatever it is CBD says one uses to burn the outside of pieces of raw beef?


Have a 3-burner propane grill, probably takes 10 min. max to get grill nice and hot - and soon after that the temps get to levels not recommended for the grill cover.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (QDnY+)

42
Best steaks I ever had, bar none, were in Buenos Aires. We ate at the #1 and #2 churrascarias, Don Julio and La Brigada. Both great though La Brigada was better only because we had to eat outside at Don Julio and it was cold outside.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (/9p9e)

43 You know, with the video above and with other videos of that type, what the percentdollarsignexclamationpoint s it with all the edits? Learn your damn' lines! Geezus.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (Hx3Yn)

44 Love the omelet video! LOL. Omelets are my nemesis. I can make them pretty or I can make them delicious. Both at the same time seems impossible for me.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:25 PM (RfzVr)

45 I love the French language, but the French English accent really is the worst. Second in awfulness only to Australian accents.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:25 PM (9hauA)

46 Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (ZejZP)

Huh. I made something very similar to that once for a pizza sauce. Basically take out the beets, and double up on roasted carrots.

Turned out fantastic.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:25 PM (Ct55T)

47 To each his own but I would never cook a 2+ inch filet on a gas grill.

Yep, agreed. I do cheap cuts on the grill to have some meat around for microwaving purposes during the week, but when I get a good piece of steak I sear it in a cast iron pan (bacon grease is awesome for this) and finish it in a super hot oven.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:26 PM (UGqF8)

48 Putting the finishing touches on the chili.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (/tuJf)
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I was afraid we lost you on the dance floor.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:26 PM (Qjgq3)

49 The Hawaii entry is missing fried rice omelettes and Anna Miller's, and loco moco is a lunch thing.

Michigan's OK, I guess. We don't really have anything they don't have elsewhere. Coney Islands just do diner food in the morning.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:26 PM (t+qrx)

50 I like a warm center so medium rare for me. With the sous vide I may try to do rare since the center will be warm. Finished off in a cast iron pan for a nice reverse sear.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 05:26 PM (kufk0)

51 OT: dang, this fake newz thing with the school group...

Tonight is the Super Idiot Moon, that's why.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 05:26 PM (/D1gp)

52 I spent a year aboard in the UK working with a bunch social activist types, many of whom were vegetarians and vegans, but there were one or two red-blooded Englishmen who still enjoyed their blood sausages.

Anyways, first thing my father did when I came back, straight from the airport, was treat me to a ribeye at Morton's cooked, yes, you guessed it, Pittsburg style.

Meat never tasted better.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 05:27 PM (I/iGu)

53

Moron. Meat up - a limerick

If it's great steak that you are pursuing
I know well-done requires too much chewing
After decades of study
Meat is best a bit bloody
But it sure as hell shouldn't be mooing!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:27 PM (m45I2)

54 If you're in New Mexico & it's breakfast time & you just want to grab something instead of a sit-down meal, Blake's Lotaburger (a local chain) has one of the best breakfast burritos in the state.

Their burgers are pretty damn good too, if you're really hungry you can order (even though it's not on the menu, the double is though) a triple meat, cheese & green chile burger. Back in my younger days when I could eat a whole one that was my favorite.

Sadly I have to drive at least 15 miles to get a Lotaburger, back in '99 Blake tried to put a store in our little newly incorporated town, but since Santa Fe county was pissed off at us for incorporating they put so many obstacles in his way he finally gave up & wrote an open letter to the town apologizing & said we'd never have a store.

Posted by: Fred Weldon at January 20, 2019 05:27 PM (g8bPc)

55 26 I know people who like their steaks pretty much well done.
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Tell ya what. You and me go to the butcher's at the stockyard in Addis Abbaba. We let the butcher select the cut. You eat yours raw, I'll get mine cooked well done by the street vendor.

I'll meet you back in the States, when you're able.

The point? Not all meat is distributed in shrink wrapped packages.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (wNN8A)

56 Cicero - 40 minutes? Problem with the grill? Or do you have some fancy-shmancy grill that goes to 10,000 degrees or whatever it is CBD says one uses to burn the outside of pieces of raw beef?

To get it to the point where I can't hold my hand two inches above the grate -- i.e., steak temp -- it takes about 40 minutes (but less when the weather is warmer). If I'm grilling chicken breasts or sausages, it can be a lot cooler than that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (UGqF8)

57 Hmmmm. I've seen many videos on making omelets and scrambled eggs. All seem to call for whisking the eggs, cream, salt and pepper prior to cooking. However, Gordon Ramsey expressly forbids adding the salt until the eggs are almost cooked, because....he's a showoff, I guess.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (T6t7i)

58 CBD, Thanks for the opening post about making a proper steak. The Pittsburgh style is, in fact, the way to go. I come close to it even indoors using a cast iron pan and the highest heat my stove can generate.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (bmdz3)

59
What kind of commie heathen eats salad with breakfast?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (eXA4G)

60 Tell ya what. You and me go to the butcher's at the stockyard in Addis Abbaba. We let the butcher select the cut. You eat yours raw, I'll get mine cooked well done by the street vendor.

I'll meet you back in the States, when you're able.

The point? Not all meat is distributed in shrink wrapped packages.
Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (wNN8A)

Funny thing is Ethiopians have a raw meat dish. Forget what it's called.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:29 PM (9hauA)

61 When I was young & stupid I liked my steaks well-done, but my wife has, over the years, taught me to eat them at least medium-rare.

Posted by: Fred Weldon at January 20, 2019 05:29 PM (g8bPc)

62 I'll use a gas grill for thicker steaks, but I do an indirect method.

I know where the hottest spot on my grill is, so I crank the holy heck out of it, preheat the grill real well, then sear the steaks a minute or so to a side, including the sidewalls and fat cap (if any), then i turn all burners off except for one on the end at lowest setting, close the lid, and let it coast to finish with a probe thermometer.

The only thing that touches the meat besides flames and heat is copious amounts of kosher salt.

Finish with butter or olive oil, rest it as far as you care to rest it, and scarf.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:29 PM (Ct55T)

63 Ugh, that breakfast article: the 3 places they mention in Denver are all recently opened. How can they claim this is the "Colorado" breakfast?!? Yeah, there are places that have been open - and very popular - there for years. *eye roll*

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 05:29 PM (W+vEI)

64 I'd like to put in a plug for Mary Lou's in Carbondale, IL as a top breakfast joint -- my first experience with biscuits and gravy and the whole wonderful southern breakfast.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 05:30 PM (VigyG)

65 What kind of commie heathen eats salad with breakfast?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (eXA4G)

The kind that already has his accommodation prepared in hell.

Eek

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:30 PM (9hauA)

66 The Big Green Egg and other ceramic grills are mostly immune to wind -- that's why I picked it in the first place, when I was living in a windy area.

It can get to 700 degrees (great for pizza!) but it only does so quickly if you use charcoal whose chunks are not too big, and which is not too moist.

Posted by: Splunge at January 20, 2019 05:30 PM (ed8K1)

67 JJ were those Brazilian-style churrascarias in BA? Or just steakhouses? Last time I was in BA the last junta was on trial (Galtieri, Anaya, Lami Dozo), which tells you how long it's been - but back then there were no churrascarias brasileiras in BA.


And I assume ABC on Calle Lavalle, staffed by former crewmembers of the German pocket battleship Graf Spee, has long closed, and all those guys passed away.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:31 PM (QDnY+)

68 After my husband and I hiked the Gila Wilderness in October, we stopped at a V\Blake's in Silver City and had the Hatch Chili burger with onion rings. Damn!! That was a great burger.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 05:31 PM (kufk0)

69 57 Hmmmm. I've seen many videos on making omelets and scrambled eggs. All seem to call for whisking the eggs, cream, salt and pepper prior to cooking. However, Gordon Ramsey expressly forbids adding the salt until the eggs are almost cooked, because....he's a showoff, I guess.
Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (T6t7i)

I do like to scramble any eggs for things like that well ahead of time, but I won't add anything until just before it's ready to go in to the pan.

Salt, sugar, acids, anything like that can denature the proteins in the egg, causing weirdness in the final product. Stiff, weepy curds from the proteins seizing up under the unbalanced tonicity and squishing all their moisture out.

I have been using a dash of soy sauce and mirin in eggs when scrambling or making an omelette. Kind of a theft from a standard japanese tamagoyaki recipe.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:33 PM (Ct55T)

70
If you're in New Mexico & it's breakfast time & you just want to grab something instead of a sit-down meal, Blake's Lotaburger (a local chain) has one of the best breakfast burritos in the state.

Posted by: Fred Weldon at January 20, 2019 05:27 PM (g8bPc)





Do they play this song on a loop in every restaurant?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prPjpwsGiws

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 05:33 PM (eXA4G)

71 18 Cicero

>> dry aging

Yes, my favorite prelim steak move: I use Alton Brown's method (lightly salt, stash in frig for 4 or 5 days).

I put them on chopsticks in a small cookie pan to aid air circulation. The hardest part is planning ahead...

(I actually had this last week, sent CBD pics...)

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 05:33 PM (vUcdz)

72 It's a small matter but lately I've been steaming wedges of fresh cabbage as a side dish. Steam until tender (not mushy) then top with butter, salt and pepper. It has a sorta spring-like green taste that goes great with heavier foods in winter. And it's inexpensive and healthy.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 05:34 PM (bmdz3)

73 chique - kitfo (Ethiopian raw beef dish).


No, passed on it when I was there. Yuuuge fan of "national food" (as they call it up in Eritrea) long before I went there. But not kitfo.


Eritrea was great. We'd have a nice inexpensive Italian red, some great lasagna, and tibs wat and yebeg alecha for lunch. Many restaurants had both good Italian and "national" food.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:35 PM (QDnY+)

74 Sunday is Omelet Day at Schloss Obvious: two eggs, a few shakes of salt, cook in butter, sprinkle on shredded cheese and Fines Herbes, devour with bacon. Yummmmm.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 05:35 PM (Hx3Yn)

75 Once a steak hits even near-medium, you might as well give it to a dog. They'll eat anything.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 05:35 PM (14URa)

76 A friend of mine cooked a beautiful rib eye in a sous vide and finished on the grill.

I ate it and raved.

It was truly awful.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 05:36 PM (PkVlr)

77 sous vide is French for "broken stove".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:37 PM (Ct55T)

78 Nurse ratched,
What was wrong with it?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 05:37 PM (kufk0)

79 ibguy--

I used to dry age steaks, too, but had forgotten the method. Yours sounds like what I used to do, too, and they were definitely improved. Never had any problems with the "healthfulness" of the steaks.

Now I sous vide, so it seems like overkill to also dry age, but maybe I'll try it.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at January 20, 2019 05:37 PM (S+f+m)

80 Peaches, I'm with you. Might as well just buy a package of Jerky.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:37 PM (+0faA)

81 74
Sunday is Omelet Day at Schloss Obvious: two eggs, a few shakes of
salt, cook in butter, sprinkle on shredded cheese and Fines Herbes,
devour with bacon. Yummmmm.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 05:35 PM (Hx3Yn)
Throw a couple thinnish slices of avocado in there and achieve perfection.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 05:38 PM (14URa)

82 Lin-duh,


It was chewy and had no flavor.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 05:38 PM (PkVlr)

83 Best thing about the omelet video is the background music. Anyone want to venture a guess?
Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (T6t7i)


Vivaldi's Four Seasons - Summer

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 05:38 PM (T71PA)

84 Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:35 PM (QDnY+)

Ah yes, kifto. I love Ethiopian food too (went to an Ethiopian restaurant for my birthday a couple of weeks ago), but I'm not brave enough to try the kifto. I think I would like the taste but I think it don't want to risk it. It's probably fine to eat. I'm just being cautious.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:38 PM (9hauA)

85
sous vide is French for "broken stove".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:37 PM (Ct55T)






I thought it was Frog for "le Ronco needs another product to sell on late-night TV"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (eXA4G)

86 >>>You and me go to the butcher's at the stockyard in Addis Abbaba. We let
the butcher select the cut. You eat yours raw, I'll get mine cooked well
done by the street vendor.



I'll meet you back in the States, when you're able.



I am not sure, but I think that in general when we talk about how well done to cook a steak on this website we are not talking about mystery meat from a third world country.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (RfzVr)

87 Kitfo, I mean.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (9hauA)

88 I've been to Primanti's a few times during my travels, and I don't get it.

Try it after drinking all night.

Posted by: DaveA at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (FhXTo)

89
I am not sure, but I think that in general when
we talk about how well done to cook a steak on this website we are not
talking about mystery meat from a third world country.


Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (RfzVr)
This right here.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 05:40 PM (14URa)

90 For those interested in food in colonial and early American times (raises my hand) do a search on 'Townsends' on Youtube. In addition to other aspects of living in those times, he does a lot of cooking videos from 18th century recipes using utensiles and techniques from that period. It is fun and educational. I've become a fan.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 05:40 PM (bmdz3)

91 The guy at the buffalo wool company tells me there is no difference between a buffalo filet and a Yak filet. He gave me the name of a supplier.

I feel a taste test coming on.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:40 PM (+0faA)

92 One thing i've been doing lately which i'll admit is kinda weird but honestly delicious:

Any kind of eggy thing (omelette, scrambled, hash, frittata, whatever), i put a small squidge of mayonnaise on just before eating. Hellman's, Kewpie, doesn't matter. Sometimes also a squeeze of sriracha along with it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:40 PM (Ct55T)

93 Funny thing is Ethiopians have a raw meat dish. Forget what it's called.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:29 PM (9hauA)

I know. I saw that. Such a delicacy! Raw meat sliced off hunks from the butchershop. Maybe some 'tibs' spice sprinkled on the way into the mouth.

I like seared meat, not ...other kinds.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 05:41 PM (wNN8A)

94 What kind of commie heathen eats salad with breakfast?



Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 05:28 PM (eXA4G)

To get it done and over with for the day?

Posted by: Vendette at January 20, 2019 05:41 PM (gILMG)

95 Here's the Gordon Ramsey video. He adds neither salt or pepper until almost the end of the cooking process.
https://tinyurl.com/q99369e

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:42 PM (T6t7i)

96 Any kind of eggy thing (omelette, scrambled, hash, frittata, whatever), i put a small squidge of mayonnaise on just before eating. Hellman's, Kewpie, doesn't matter. Sometimes also a squeeze of sriracha along with it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:40 PM (Ct55T)
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Deviled scrambled eggs, sort of.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:42 PM (c+9Pl)

97 Vivaldi's Four Seasons - Summer

Posted by: DR.WTF


Close, but I think it's Winter. I could be wrong.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:42 PM (T6t7i)

98 Kitfo usually has butter in it, plus spices. Meh. I've tried it, did nothing for me. Barely food compared to tibs wat, with fresh awaze paste.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:43 PM (QDnY+)

99 Omelot guy is cute, but that omelet looks like a banana slug with low iron.

I like a good browning on my omelet, preferably by cooking in a mix of butter and bacon fat.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:43 PM (kQs4Y)

100 Deviled scrambled eggs, sort of.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:42 PM (c+9Pl)

Huh... yeah.... maybe that's why i like the flavor combo so much... i've always loved deviled eggs. Never put two and two together on that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:43 PM (Ct55T)

101 It's a wonder I am still alive. Used to eat raw hamburger occasionally when my mom was cooking.

She discouraged that, but us kids were sneaky.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:44 PM (RfzVr)

102 salt nor pepper. I have to get a new keyboard.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:44 PM (T6t7i)

103 It was chewy and had no flavor.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Sounds like it wasn't seasoned well and not cooked long enough for the muscle fibers to break down... I would say it was the cooks error not the actual technique. Lots of people will ruin perfectly good steaks no matter how they cook them.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 05:44 PM (kufk0)

104 Sous vide was chewy and had no flavor? Sounds like operator error to me. My guess is that the steaks weren't seasoned before sealing and that they weren't sous vided long enough or at a high enough temperature. Chewy is the main thing that sous vide avoids. There is some trial and error to get your steaks exactly as you want.

I recommend Food Lab's guide to sous vide steaks. It's everything you need to know (and probably more detail than you want).

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at January 20, 2019 05:44 PM (S+f+m)

105 For those interested in food in colonial and early American times (raises my hand) do a search on 'Townsends' on Youtube. In addition to other aspects of living in those times, he does a lot of cooking videos from 18th century recipes using utensiles and techniques from that period. It is fun and educational. I've become a fan.
Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 05:40 PM (bmdz3)


You can also visit the shop! It's in Pierceton IN, within a convenient 45 minute drive of absolutely nothing else. But you might get to meet Jon! And it's neat to see the wares firsthand before you buy something.

https://stoatnet.org/townsendsstore.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:45 PM (t+qrx)

106 For Denver breakfast treats: Duffyroll on Pearl St.

Lately I've been into making Dutch babies (the pancake kind!) on the weekend. Can throw in any kind of fresh fruit on hand. Yum!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9r5ubd4

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 05:45 PM (W+vEI)

107 Eris, yes on the bacon fat. I'm using it on my toasted sandwiches and I really like the flavor it adds.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:45 PM (+0faA)

108
The Doc Told Me To Watch My Waistline So I'm Getting It Out There Where I Can See It - a limerick

If your diet is mostly meat-based
You'll have to prepare it to taste
But if you don't trim all the fat
You'll end up like Mrs. Sprat
With all your food going to waist

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:46 PM (m45I2)

109 Pittsburgh style is definitely the best.

Having said that, I know folks are crazy for the new shiny thing (reverse sear) and I have an use my sous vide for a number of applications, but I'm still traditionalist with my steaks (again, H/T to A.B.):

Cast iron skillet in oven pre-heated to max setting, leave in (at least) 1/2 hour (longer is preferable), when ready to cook, out of oven and into hottest (pre-heated) burner (lightly coated with peanut or other high smoke point oil). Awesomeness commences.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 05:46 PM (vUcdz)

110 Vivaldi's Four Seasons - Summer

Posted by: DR.WTF

Close, but I think it's Winter. I could be wrong.
Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:42 PM (T6t7i)


Hmm. I think you are correct. Vivaldi uses variations of that theme throughout. Regardless, it is a wonderful piece of music and the omelette video was fun.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 05:46 PM (T71PA)

111 I bought duck eggs the other day. Very expensive, like 4 or 5 bucks or even more for 4, but I suspect it will taste just like chicken eggs.

Anyone know?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:47 PM (9hauA)

112 Hanger steak baby.

I can get my grill up to 700 with all burners full blast and empty.

The hanger does not go in until it hits all 700 of those degrees.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 05:47 PM (w/exv)

113 I suppose this is relevant to the food thread, altho, if I'd noticed this yesterday, I actually would have had something to post on the pet thread.
TCM is running a Marie Prevost flick, tonight at 10:15 PST.

Posted by: Vertov at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (mDieY)

114 Throw a couple thinnish slices of avocado in there and achieve perfection.
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I agree, unfortunately, avocado is really frickin' expensive up here, so I don't buy it very often.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (Hx3Yn)

115 It's a wonder I am still alive. Used to eat raw hamburger occasionally when my mom was cooking.

She discouraged that, but us kids were sneaky.
Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:44 PM (RfzVr)


It has a name: Steak Tartar. Just add a raw egg on top and you've got a real French dish.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (T71PA)

116 T-Fal pans are da bomb. If you are an easily distracted cook like me, they really are resistant to burnt-on gunk.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (kQs4Y)

117 chique, You'll know when you quack them.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (+0faA)

118 Duck eggs can be tough if cooked at too high a temperature. Something about having more protein. I use to bake with them when I could get them on a regular basis.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (kufk0)

119 114
Throw a couple thinnish slices of avocado in there and achieve perfection.


Avocado: the arboreal answer to the Brussels Sprout.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:49 PM (T6t7i)

120 OT again: yikes, this non-event with the school group, incredibly, seems to have spectacularly and clearly demonstrated (for the Nth time, but more clearly than usual) how stupid, and bigoted, and ignorant, most of the "press" and punditocracy are. That's the bad news. The worse news is what this confirms about the country as a whole.


OK, UToob to remember how to take the 1911 apart. Off I go.



Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:49 PM (QDnY+)

121 dancing shrimp are good as long as they dance but 'drunken shrimp' are best as long as they aren't falling down drunk.

Take a shrimp that's pissed as hell u caught him, shell him as fast as possible but leaving the head intact, then dunk him in a plata tequila and bite the whole tail off. No need to eat the head...but the fat is ok.

Posted by: Gump at January 20, 2019 05:49 PM (UHDYi)

122 You know what else was a big hit with Canadians? When they learned you could bottle beer.

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 05:49 PM (wxZSX)

123 O.T.
Just got done watching this week's episode of "Outlander". I'm still weeping. Anybody else an "Outlander" fan?

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 05:50 PM (jm1YL)

124 chique, You'll know when you quack them.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (+0faA)

Hehe.

Lin-duh, I don't bake. Can I scramble them?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:50 PM (9hauA)

125 I love the idea of a veg pizza sauce, always make my own sauce with homemade pizza. Going to try this for sure. Hate to whine about typos so I'll just say I laughed hard at the 2-2500 cloves of garlic.

Posted by: lurks a lot at January 20, 2019 05:50 PM (aUHJk)

126 I remember one of the original Japanese Iron Chef episodes with "drunken lobster" where someone tossed live lobsters into a barrel of sake. Good times!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 05:51 PM (I/iGu)

127 I can tell you that the best biscuits and gravy are at Aspen Leaf Bakery in Florence, Colorado.

Posted by: Emmie at January 20, 2019 05:51 PM (4HMW8)

128 I am not sure, but I think that in general when we talk about how well done to cook a steak on this website we are not talking about mystery meat from a third world country.
Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (RfzVr)

Well thats almost not fair! I had an Ethiopian roast chicken. It was very skinny. The host was extremely apologetic beginning with the *sqwuak* heard from the kitchen. An hour later, after many conversational shots of honey wine, the bird was brought out with sides of rice and veggies. Many more apologies for the scrawny bird, but the host was appeased by further assrurances as to how prized a free range, hormone free bird was held for an American table!

Wonderful people.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 05:51 PM (wNN8A)

129 Throw a couple thinnish slices of avocado in there and achieve perfection.

Avocado: the arboreal answer to the Brussels Sprout.
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As a Brussels sprout fan, I can understand the gibes thrown at the humble sprout. But making fun of avocadoes is just wrong.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 05:52 PM (Hx3Yn)

130 Chique,
You can scramble them but add cream, milk, etc. and cook them at a lower temperature than you would for normal eggs. It will just take longer.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 05:52 PM (kufk0)

131 chique, I think the standard practice is to bury them for a hundred years.

I will stop now.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:52 PM (+0faA)

132 126 Walter

The orginal IC was arguably the best thing on FoodTV. So campy, so fun, I got to where I could recite chefs' stats like some folks can do with ball players.

Which, now that I think of it, is kinda sad/nerdy.

(Kinda???)

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 05:53 PM (vUcdz)

133 111 I bought duck eggs the other day. Very expensive,
like 4 or 5 bucks or even more for 4, but I suspect it will taste just
like chicken eggs.



Anyone know?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:47 PM (9hauA)
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I never hard-boiled them but, like lin-duh, have baked with them. I found the results were much lighter and fluffier, probably because the duck eggs are larger than chicken eggs. However, I didn't notice a taste difference in the finished product.


Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2019 05:53 PM (XXNQ+)

134 111 I bought duck eggs the other day. Very expensive, like 4 or 5 bucks or even more for 4, but I suspect it will taste just like chicken eggs.
Anyone know?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:47 PM (9hauA)


They're a lot like chicken eggs, but the yolk is richer. A great choice for anything that is topped with a fried egg and then you break the yolk over the rest. Always use them in my breakfast sandwiches when I can get them.

In an omelette, you won't notice as much difference. A little yellower (higher ratio of yolk to white helps), and a little richer.

Posted by: Splunge at January 20, 2019 05:53 PM (ed8K1)

135 Has anyone ever actually tried it at home?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (UGqF]/i]

Yup. Mixed results. But there is plenty of good info online.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (l7me7)

136 >>>TCM is running a Marie Prevost flick

Food thread indeed. You are a sick individual. /

Nick Lowe stuck in my head now.

She was a winner... Poor Marie.

Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (RfzVr)

137 Another excellent bakery and brunch spot in Denver that has been around for years is Devil's Food in Old South Gaylord.


http://devilsfooddenver.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (W+vEI)

138 Brussels sprouts can also be frozen and used as ammunition in small caliber potato guns.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (I/iGu)

139 I bought duck eggs the other day.


********


Did you get a bill?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (m45I2)

140 Gotta say, I loves me some maple syrup on my french toast.

Specially when Mrs VIA makes it out of panettoni.

that's some good eats, right there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (cqNba)

141 I have been known to tell the steakhouse waiter to "walk it past the grill on the hoof. It should be mooing when I cut it."

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 05:55 PM (myjNJ)

142 139 Muldoon

I call fowl.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 05:55 PM (vUcdz)

143 141 madam

2nded!

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 05:55 PM (vUcdz)

144 Hate to whine about typos so I'll just say I laughed hard at the 2-2500 cloves of garlic.
Posted by: lurks a lot


Not a typo. Some people like garlic and hate other people.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 05:56 PM (ZejZP)

145 Had some really wonderful shrimp and grits at a fine little seafood restaurant here in Columbus. It's now closed much to my and my husband's regret. I've had a lot of shrimp and grits but those were absolutely heavenly.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 05:56 PM (jm1YL)

146 Cooking duck eggs can be quite a feat. You might want to check on the web.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:56 PM (m45I2)

147 Cooking was the skill that provided man with enough extra calories to grow a bigger brain. I guess some missed the bus.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:56 PM (T6t7i)

148 Dancing Shrimp is also called Jumping Shrimp Salad in the Philippines.

https://www.aboutfilipinofood.com/jumping-salad/


For those that like to try new things, this is probably impossible to make here.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 20, 2019 05:56 PM (1g7ch)

149 It has a name: Steak Tartar. Just add a raw egg on top and you've got a real French dish.
Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (T71PA)

Technically, Steak Tartar is a Tartar dish.

But point taken

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:57 PM (Ct55T)

150 Quit ducking the question.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:57 PM (+0faA)

151 If it doesn't cry when you cut it, it's burnt.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 05:57 PM (myjNJ)

152 Thanks for the answering my duck egg question, guys!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:57 PM (9hauA)

153 >>I bought duck eggs the other day.

>Did you get a bill?

Asked the quack.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:57 PM (/tuJf)

154 Andy from your days in Philly I am sure you never met a meal you didn't like

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 05:58 PM (/rm4P)

155 I bought duck eggs the other day.



******


A box of quackers?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:58 PM (m45I2)

156 139 I bought duck eggs the other day.
********
Did you get a bill?
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (m45I2)

142 139 Muldoon

I call fowl.
Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 05:55 PM (vUcdz)

Eider one of those puns is acceptable.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:59 PM (Ct55T)

157 With this egg talk made me think of another bizarre delicacy those ostrich eggs with half grown embryos.
And would almost bet a buck CBD has ran across them.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:00 PM (/rm4P)

158 111
I bought duck eggs the other day. Very expensive, like 4 or 5 bucks or
even more for 4, but I suspect it will taste just like chicken eggs.



Anyone know?

Posted by: chique d'afrique


Just make sure you cook them long enough for the Mallard reaction to occur.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 06:01 PM (T6t7i)

159 157 With this egg talk made me think of another bizarre delicacy those ostrich eggs with half grown embryos.
And would almost bet a buck CBD has ran across them.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:00 PM (/rm4P)

I know balut is fertilized duck eggs, grown to varying degrees.

Never heard of it done with ostrich eggs... that is somehow even more revolting... and i didn't think anything could be more revolting than balut.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:01 PM (Ct55T)

160 @157: "With this egg talk made me think of another bizarre delicacy those ostrich eggs with half grown embryos."

Bulat is done with chicken eggs. Crunchy!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:01 PM (I/iGu)

161 I think chique knew she was opening the door to all who dabble in puns and they waddled right in.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 06:01 PM (jm1YL)

162 Oops, duck, chicken, same difference.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:02 PM (I/iGu)

163 ostrich eggs with half grown embryos.


******


Poultry in motion?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 06:02 PM (m45I2)

164 Skip, that 's no yolk!

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:02 PM (+0faA)

165 Weft-cut, laughing more now. Thanks.

Posted by: lurks a lot at January 20, 2019 06:02 PM (aUHJk)

166
I bought duck eggs the other day. Very expensive,
like 4 or 5 bucks or even more for 4


How much would ostrich eggs cost?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 06:02 PM (aKsyK)

167 chique, you should just wing it with those duck eggs

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (W+vEI)

168 Just made some wonderful beef stew. Left the skin on the potatoes for the first time, didn't really care for it. But I ate two bowls just to make sure.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (JUOKG)

169 Penguin eggs?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (aKsyK)

170 I saw them using ostrich eggs on tv, maybe Survivor years ago but would assume any other eggs get the same treatment.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (/rm4P)

171 Just made some wonderful beef stew. Left the skin on the potatoes for the first time, didn't really care for it. But I ate two bowls just to make sure.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (JUOKG)
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What kind of potatoes?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (Hx3Yn)

172 I bought duck eggs the other day. Very expensive,

like 4 or 5 bucks or even more for 4



How much would ostrich eggs cost?


Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 06:02 PM

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My cousin bought one once at some upscale place and it was hideously expensive. Not worth it from what I recall.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:04 PM (JUOKG)

173 I do recall the following conversation happening in the distant past:

Friend: "Oh yeah, what is that called, where they wait for a fertilized chicken embryo to develop a bit before eating it?"

Me: "Not food."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (Ct55T)

174 What kind of potatoes?


Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM

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Yukon Gold.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (JUOKG)

175 I saw Embryonic Ostriches open for Don Henley at the Cow Palace in ''02.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (m45I2)

176 My cousin bought one once at some upscale place and it was hideously expensive. Not worth it from what I recall.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


Oh, excuuuuuuuse me. Howzabout next time you just back off, jack.

Posted by: Ostriches at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (T6t7i)

177 Quail eggs are an old time pregnancy test. Suck an egg and you are with child.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (+0faA)

178 Haven't had ostrich eggs, but I did get my hands on a goose egg.

It was fine, but not quite as tasty as duck eggs. Very tough shell, and hard to crack. Huge. One egg made a whole breakfast.

BTW if you ever crack a duck egg and it smells fishy, throw it away. I didn't do that the first time, and I can still conjure up that smell and taste. Yuck!

Posted by: Splunge at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (ed8K1)

179 @173: "Me: 'Not food.'"

Foxes might disagree, but yeah, not human food.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (I/iGu)

180 Eris......for finding guanciale. Go to laquercia.us and you can find their purveyors.

Guanciale is sweet, sweet pork cheek

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (VtwaX)

181 These live fish, served in shotglasses, "dance" down diners' throats:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/foods/shirouo-no-odorigui-dancing-ice-gobies

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (kQs4Y)

182 Yukon Gold.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (JUOKG)
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Hmmmm. Skin off or skin on doesn't make a difference to me with Yukon Golds. What bugged you about it?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (Hx3Yn)

183 Just made some wonderful beef stew. Left the skin on the potatoes for the first time, didn't really care for it. But I ate two bowls just to make sure.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


I like roasting them separately in a roasting pan with oil and salt.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 06:07 PM (ZejZP)

184 Thanks Westie. I found that Zingerman's deli ships too. The next time I make Spaghetti all' Ametrice I'll get some!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:07 PM (kQs4Y)

185 180 Eris......for finding guanciale. Go to laquercia.us and you can find their purveyors.

Guanciale is sweet, sweet pork cheek
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (VtwaX)

!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the link. Guanciale is like the pinnacle of all products derived from the noble porcine.

A proper buccatini all'amatriciana is a thing of unparalleled beauty.

I ordered it on a first date once at a restaurant where I knew the exec chef quite well.

I remember the buccatini vividly. The date... not so much.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:08 PM (Ct55T)

186 The Rams are riding high on two inexcusable blown pass interference calls. The NFL should stop the overtime and just deem the Saints the winners.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 20, 2019 06:08 PM (CnulY)

187 105 ... hogmartin, I would love to visit Jon's shop in Indiana but if we got chatting I would have to add a couple of days to my trip. LOL His website is also dangerous to one's budget.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 06:08 PM (bmdz3)

188 Yukon Gold.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:05 PM (JUOKG)

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Hmmmm. Skin off or skin on doesn't make a difference to me with Yukon Golds. What bugged you about it?



Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM

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Kind of a papery taste with the skin. Next time I will peel them.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 06:09 PM (JUOKG)

189 >>These live fish, served in shotglasses, "dance" down diners' throats:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/foods/shirouo-no-odorigui-dancing-ice-gobies


My, don't those look tasty *gags*

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:09 PM (W+vEI)

190 I could make duck puns teal the cows come home.

But I know you all want to talk about food, so I will get down off my high horse (don't be silly you get down off a duck) and leave you to it.

Later all!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 06:09 PM (m45I2)

191 183 Just made some wonderful beef stew. Left the skin on the potatoes for the first time, didn't really care for it. But I ate two bowls just to make sure.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

I like roasting them separately in a roasting pan with oil and salt.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 06:07 PM (ZejZP)


Haven't done it in a long time, but I used to make beef stew with no potatoes, put a baked potato half into a bowl, much it a bit with a fork, ladle the beef stew over, and serve. Very satisfying.

My main food this week will be some hot-and-numbing Sichuan beef stew that I pulled out of the freezer. It's even better than when I first made it.

Posted by: Splunge at January 20, 2019 06:10 PM (ed8K1)

192 These live fish, served in shotglasses, "dance" down diners' throats:
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:06 PM (kQs4Y)


I'm picturing a fish version of Michigan J. Frog complete with cane and top hat.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:10 PM (t+qrx)

193 Bucatini is my new favorite pasta, just makes a more tender dish.

Here's Lidia making it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUcPqd-ZJP0

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:10 PM (kQs4Y)

194 Fraternities everywhere should be shut down for culturally appropriating live fish consumption.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:11 PM (I/iGu)

195 I did a buccatini the other night with just plain old Weggie's store brand red sauce, doctored up with sautee'd veggies, olives, and large capers. Few cubes of mozzarella too, just barely melted into the sauce.

it was delightful.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:12 PM (Ct55T)

196 193 Eris

Lidia is to Italian cooking what Jacques P is to French.

She's a treasure.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:12 PM (vUcdz)

197 Lamb has been available all year here so last week was lamb curry and rice.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:12 PM (+0faA)

198 Ot- I just stuck me that eventually I will lose the ability to swallow. (I already fail when I eat to fast or eat the wrong textures). Fuck me I like to eat.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:12 PM (0OmEj)

199 I'm picturing a fish version of Michigan J. Frog complete with cane and top hat.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:10 PM (t+qrx)

"Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my... HEY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING! STOP THAT! aAAAAAAAGH!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:13 PM (Ct55T)

200 198 USN

Why's that?

Not PPS, I hope.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:13 PM (vUcdz)

201 196 193 Eris

Lidia is to Italian cooking what Jacques P is to French.

She's a treasure.
Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:12 PM (vUcdz)

Amen to that. I have learned a ton of culinary wisdom from those two combined.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:14 PM (Ct55T)

202 Football game unraveling real quick.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:14 PM (I/iGu)

203 I've tried ageing beef near a dozen times and for me a prime ny strip is my fav. I have a dormroom refrig that i use for curing but i'll clear it out and sanitize it , let that five pound whole strip go for a month or so, clean it up and.....it.is worth the effort and price. Once I tasted seventy five day ribeye but it seemed almost to much.

Strip is easy to trim/ slice and a five pounder will be close to four pounds. Feeds four folks easily. Damn good at a finish temp of 115 degree f and reverse sear.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at January 20, 2019 06:14 PM (UHDYi)

204 I'm picturing a fish version of Michigan J. Frog complete with cane and top hat.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:10 PM (t+qrx)
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Everybody do the Michigan ra-a-a-a-ag!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:14 PM (kQs4Y)

205 Peaches and Chique, I do French toast with maple syrup too. We will have to sit st CBDs naughty table! But pure maple only. Also use agave and caramel syrups sometimes.

I have to brag, I entered my chili into a chili contest and won a prize! It uses a bunch of Asian ingredients, which I think helped it stand out from the others. Has a good deep umami flavor. One of the other chili recipes that won was more like a curry, and so good I wanted to eat the whole pot. Will have to snag the recipe. The winning cornbread used whole corn, which is always yummiest, plus whole grains and jalapeños.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 06:15 PM (TnaCl)

206 Gosh, that moon is somethin' else, innit? I'd get the telescope out if it weren't 5° right now and dropping.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:15 PM (t+qrx)

207 I'm still experimenting with this, but so far it kind of appears that the people who say that salting a steak in advance toughens it might actually be right. Needs more experiment, though.

Posted by: Splunge at January 20, 2019 06:15 PM (ed8K1)

208 Called Spinocerebellar Ataxia (type 14). It sucks ass.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:15 PM (0OmEj)

209 "Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my... HEY WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING! STOP THAT! aAAAAAAAGH!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:13 PM (Ct55T)


YESSSSSS this exactly

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:15 PM (t+qrx)

210 http://www.thediplomad.com
Move from Government Shutdown to Right-Sizing, i.e., RIF the Raff?

Always a good short read

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:16 PM (/rm4P)

211 You guys outdid yourselves with the duck puns.

Bravo.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 06:16 PM (9hauA)

212 203 Lone Ranger

Agreed abt NY strip - our favorite.

As noted above, will pass on the shiny new thing (reverse sear).

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:17 PM (vUcdz)

213 Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 06:15 PM (TnaCl)

Congrats on the chili prize, LizLem!!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:17 PM (14URa)

214 I have a telescope as well, haven't dug it out in years and single digit isn't the best time to start.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:18 PM (/rm4P)

215 Speaking of ducks... i think i might be a little dumb for not knowing this.. but are ducks called "ducks" because they duck under the water to eat?

Or is the action of ducking under something called "ducking" because that's what ducks do?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:18 PM (Ct55T)

216 208 USN

So sorry, my friend!

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:18 PM (vUcdz)

217 Warai, that's too deep for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:19 PM (+0faA)

218 Don't be too sorry. Life is good. I have awhile yet.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:19 PM (0OmEj)

219 LizLem, the only kind of maple - type syrup I use is the real thing. Except at Cracker Barrel where their syrup is a mix of maple and something else. And there is a diner around here that makes their own syrup. It's pretty tasty.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (9hauA)

220 Years.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (0OmEj)

221 Rams win. Total BS. I had no real dog in this hunt but those calls. Holy crap.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (CnulY)

222 207 Splunge

Disagree. Actually helps retain moisture (and hence tenderness).

However: key is *lightly* salted.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (vUcdz)

223 Speaking of ducks... i think i might be a little dumb for not knowing this.. but are ducks called "ducks" because they duck under the water to eat?

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Ducks were named after an amphibious vehicle used in WWII called the duckboat. Before WWII ducks had no special name.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (UGqF8)

224 Skip - along the same lines re: RIF speculation and Trump's chess:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10868388467
57720064.html

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (W+vEI)

225 Just started trying to make some macrons this afternoon. Not having mush luck so far. My problem is getting the right consistency in the cookie batter, plus when I try and pipe the batter I, and a large part of the kitchen, end up coated with it. I just need a decent piping bag I guess. Back to the videos.

Oh, also I might have a cook book with the hanging meat in the oven technique. I remember trying it, probably close to 40 years ago.I'lllook

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at January 20, 2019 06:21 PM (WrOkn)

226 Maple syrup is the one of the best things to put on french toast. (so many options, all good)

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:21 PM (0OmEj)

227 220
Years.



Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (0OmEj)
{{{{{}}}}}

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:22 PM (14URa)

228 Lost in translation , they were originally called dunks.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:22 PM (+0faA)

229 The ref's win again.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 06:22 PM (RuIsu)

230 Did anybody else get in a nap this afternoon?

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2019 06:23 PM (/Z/Su)

231 214 I have a telescope as well, haven't dug it out in years and single digit isn't the best time to start.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:18 PM (/rm4P)

Don't bother with a telescope. Use a pair of binoculars, and a normal digital camera. Hold the camera in a doorway or somesuch for longer exposures. It is a very slow moving event.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:23 PM (wNN8A)

232 Congrats on the chili prize, LizLem!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 06:23 PM (9hauA)

233 226 Maple syrup is the one of the best things to put on french toast. (so many options, all good)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:21 PM (0OmEj)

Are you trying to start something?

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2019 06:23 PM (/Z/Su)

234 Rams win. Total BS. I had no real dog in this hunt but those calls. Holy crap.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (CnulY)



I agree. Poorly called. Not a fan of either but gee whiz

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:24 PM (lwiT4)

235 No, I eat hotdogs with ketchup too.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:24 PM (0OmEj)

236 221; Fuck the Cleveland (or wherever the fuck they're from) Rams. Suck donkey dick.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 06:24 PM (KP5rU)

237 As you could imagine in the linear war age troops in line in the open would "duck" at incoming fire and the name of that goes back at least to the Napoleonic era.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:25 PM (/rm4P)

238 229 The ref's win again.
Posted by: Burger Chef at January

...

There were refs?

Posted by: TexasDan at January 20, 2019 06:25 PM (CnulY)

239 Mazel tov on the chili prize, LizLem!

Obligatory: https://tinyurl.com/yd8zohf2

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 06:25 PM (vUcdz)

240 The NFL can diaf, They are dead to me.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:25 PM (0OmEj)

241 I got an Instant Pot this week. It's supposed to help me cook things. I have no idea what.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:26 PM (lwiT4)

242 are ducks called "ducks" because they duck under the water to eat?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:18 PM (Ct55T)


Yes.

https://www.etymonline.com/word/duck

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:26 PM (t+qrx)

243 The NFL can diaf, They are dead to me.


I feel the same way about Hollywood, but we have a weekly movie thread.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (lwiT4)

244 240; THIS x eleventy. Any league or team that glorifies the likes of Dummikhan Suh is not worth my time or electricity. Fuck em.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (KP5rU)

245 So, I'm standing at the end of the barn watching a bunch of geese approaching. My business partner says , I think I'll go inside. Dumb me, every one of those geese decided to take a dump at that moment. Sounded like hail.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (+0faA)

246 241 I got an Instant Pot this week. It's supposed to help me cook things. I have no idea what.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:26 PM (lwiT4)

-------

Just add water and roll into blunts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (UGqF8)

247 duck (n.1)
waterfowl, natatorial bird of the family Anatidae, Old English duce (found only in genitive ducan) "a duck," literally "a ducker," presumed to be from Old English *ducan "to duck, dive" (see duck (v.)). Replaced Old English ened as the name for the bird, this being from PIE *aneti-, the root of the "duck" noun in most Indo-European languages.

etymonline.com

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (ZejZP)

248 https://www.etymonline.com/word/duck
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:26 PM (t+qrx)

huh... Thanks! I figured it probably wasn't just an accidental homophone.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:28 PM (Ct55T)

249 Did anybody else get in a nap this afternoon?

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2019 06:23 PM (/Z/Su)

Planned to but then got sidetracked commenting on some website.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (9hauA)

250 etymonline.com
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (ZejZP)


*pedantic nerd fistbump*

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (t+qrx)

251

Flash heat it to blood temp and carve off a slice...

You havent eaten beef till you cut out a yearling, drive it back, slaughter it and cook steaks that are still warm and dripping on the inside, crisp out...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (UFLLM)

252 Instant Pots are great, get a cookbook. Sooo many options.

We love ours. Slow cooking in it now.

Chicken in a brown sauce. Add cashews and veggies in a bit.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (0OmEj)

253 I got an Instant Pot this week. It's supposed to help me cook things. I have no idea what.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:26 PM (lwiT4)

>>>>>>>>>>

I made beef short ribs in mine last night. Took 40 minutes vs. 8 hours in the slow cooker. Just look at it as a speed-braiser. That's what it does, just faster.

Posted by: Hooray for Boobies at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (SOgjZ)

254 245
So, I'm standing at the end of the barn watching a bunch of geese
approaching. My business partner says , I think I'll go inside. Dumb
me, every one of those geese decided to take a dump at that moment.
Sounded like hail.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:27 PM (+0faA)
Regular farm geese or those freakin' invaders from Canuckistan? Either way, they are world-class poopers.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (14URa)

255 Meat is good.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 20, 2019 06:29 PM (yQpMk)

256 Are you trying to start something?

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2019 06:23 PM (/Z/Su)

Revenge is a dish best eaten cold...with salt and butter.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2019 06:30 PM (l7me7)

257 "Meat is murder!"


"mmmm... tasty, tasty, murder...."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:30 PM (Ct55T)

258 186 The Rams are riding high on two inexcusable blown pass interference calls. The NFL should stop the overtime and just deem the Saints the winners.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 20, 2019 06:08 PM (CnulY)

Saints got robbed (and I have no dog in this fight). Total officiating malpractice.

Posted by: joncelli of the Howling Horde at January 20, 2019 06:32 PM (1FhAQ)

259 i'm going to have a bowl of brown rice with tamagoyaki and marinated sardines on top for dinner. Because i'm too lazy to actually cook anything.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:32 PM (Ct55T)

260 221
Rams win. Total BS. I had no real dog in this hunt but those calls. Holy crap.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM (CnulY)

By the time the referees make it to the NFL, they should know better. They gave the Rams the game, ignoring that obvious PI near the end of regulation inside the 10 yard line.
And the OT interception? The Rams guy was hanging on the Saints receiver, as the ball went over his head.

When the refs "pre-determine" the winner, it really takes the bloom off the rose.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 06:32 PM (sy5kK)

261 Eris...thanks for reminding me...gotta get four to six jowls to curing, and some belly for bacon too....

Posted by: Lone Ranger at January 20, 2019 06:32 PM (UHDYi)

262 I made chili soup today. I have to call it chili soup, not chili, because it's really just tomato based vegetable soup with chili spices. And it's made with carrots (shut up, it's vegetable soup!), so also cannot be called chili.

I'm back to that keto thing for a few months, and I really get tired of meat.

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:32 PM (OX9vb)

263 Peaches, these were the Canucks and I'll bet they waited until they got to Texas to unload. My Business partner was raised in CO and knew what was coming.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:33 PM (+0faA)

264 Yup, they are woke.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 06:33 PM (RuIsu)

265 Nope, can't find the cookbook. It was a small hard copy of Asian recipes. Wifey must have tossed it.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at January 20, 2019 06:34 PM (WrOkn)

266 i'm going to have a bowl of brown rice with tamagoyaki and marinated
sardines on top for dinner. Because i'm too lazy to actually cook
anything.


I'm having two cups of Detox tea.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:34 PM (lwiT4)

267 "Meat is murder!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:30 PM (Ct55T)


Meat is murder but a good steak done properly is barely assault.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:34 PM (t+qrx)

268 Holy mackerel, was that Melissa Etheridge?

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:35 PM (14URa)

269 TIMEOUT!#!##!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:35 PM (wNN8A)

270 Winds are howling here now

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:35 PM (/rm4P)

271 I'm back to that keto thing for a few months, and I really get tired of meat.



Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:32 PM (OX9vb)



Me too April.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:35 PM (lwiT4)

272 Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 06:36 PM (3HNOQ)

273 was raised in CO and knew what was coming.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:33 PM (+0faA)

Yup. Like giant pigeons. Crap everywhere during the winter months, crossing the street in lines, slowly like they own the damn place. Hate them.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not a Dullard at January 20, 2019 06:36 PM (FXbwN)

274 Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?


Toxic masculinity.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:37 PM (lwiT4)

275 Huh.

Re: the sidebar Twain item:

Is it really a Gary Stu when the ubiquitous powers and awesomeness actually *do* have a backstory and explanation? (i.e. being from the future)

Yes, the bulk of the narrative flows from the Gary Stu simply being fundamentally more awesome than everyone else in the story, but that's sort of the point. It's not a "cheat" if that conceit itself is overtly the central premise of the story.

I mean, like, you know, "in my personal, subjective opinion..."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:37 PM (Ct55T)

276 Hmm.

A steak burnt on the outside and very rare inside is called a "Texas Steak".

Someone's been feeding you "Fake News" for your Steak News.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 06:37 PM (CRRq9)

277 Don't eat it! If you see green it's bad.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:37 PM (W+vEI)

278 Can't stand the texture of rare meats. Medium rare is pushing it. I want steak medium to medium well, depending on the cut. Lamb medium well. Pork and chicken I pretty much want burnt.

Eggs, now... eggs get scrambled with a little bit of cream, and salted right at the last second as I take them firmed up off the heat. Done right, the taste is absolutely amazing.

Posted by: Locarno at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (3WLXg)

279 Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?

Posted by: JAS


Exposure to light. Yes, don't eat.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (ZejZP)

280 Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?

Toxic masculinity.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:37 PM (lwiT4)


Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (t+qrx)

281 Yep. Fuck the NFL.

Damn, I got macaroon batter in my hair.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (WrOkn)

282 JAS, green potato is sunburned. It was exposed to the sun while growing.

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (OX9vb)

283 >>Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?


It happens when they get sad. They like show tunes, that keeps them happy.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (/tuJf)

284 I got up early this morning and put chicken in the crock pot for Sunday lunch after church. As we're walking out of the church house, he turns to me and asks me what restaurant I want to eat at.

I'm a horrible cook.

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (/Z/Su)

285 Yeah, the Rams win just dripped with toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (VigyG)

286 To be truthful the Saints won a few years ago and LA football market while huge is a failed market. So to try and drive up interest they had to throw the game their way.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:39 PM (/rm4P)

287 Grammie, congrats on the instant pot!! I love mine. Try cooking hard boiled eggs in it first, It cooks them brilliantly. Then some standard recipes from the book that comes with it to her the hang of it. I am currently working on adjusting my classic slow cooker recipes to it so they cook in half the time or less.

I know FB is the devil, but they have good IP groups with recipes or tips.

The silicone sealing rings absorb flavors, especially garlic, which I use liberally. So I suggest having at least 2 rings, one for savories and one for desserts. It makes really good cheesecake.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 06:39 PM (TnaCl)

288 Sad to see LA Rams won.

Their head coach didn't put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem

and rocked back and forth like he was autistic or something.


Oh well...at least he didn't take a knee...


#BarelytheBareMinimumofRespectShownThe FlagandNationalAnthem

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 06:40 PM (CRRq9)

289 272
Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?



Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 06:36 PM (3HNO
Don't eat them.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:40 PM (14URa)

290 I love that Lidia describes bucatini pasta as "capricious", and that it dances on the plate.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:40 PM (kQs4Y)

291 Holy mackerel, was that Melissa Etheridge?

Posted by: Peaches

Yep. Apparently, she was born/raised in Leavenworth, KS, so Chiefs fan.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 20, 2019 06:40 PM (Dhht7)

292

Green? Cyanide.

Puce or fushia though is farmer jizz...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at January 20, 2019 06:40 PM (UFLLM)

293 286 To be truthful the Saints won a few years ago and LA football market while huge is a failed market. So to try and drive up interest they had to throw the game their way.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:39 PM (/rm4P)

They didn't even have to fix the last game for the 'Aints. Damn Birds shat the bed with the lights on all by their own selves. Had a great start, too, then... pthbhthbhtttht

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM (Ct55T)

294 The green is from growing to close to the surface

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM (/rm4P)

295 OK, this is wildly OT but the Horde can be full of knowledge.

My car is iced in. More than 1/4" maybe a half. Hack hack hack with the scraper does little to nothing.

I thought maybe I'd just wait til tomorrow and let the sun warm it up, but tomorrow's high is going to be 8 deg. The hitch is that the heater doesn't really start to work until the car is moving. I'm letting it run now but I have little hope.

So, (i) I assume that it's dangerous to try to pour warm or hot water on the windshield. Is that correct?, and (ii) I have a sprayer and was thinking that maybe a solution of warm water and salt might get me somewhere.

Ideas? TIA

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM (fuK7c)

296 You call this a Food Thread? By my standards it's not even a Light Snack Thread!

Posted by: Massive Marxist Momzer Michael Moore at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM (tVQUs)

297 LizLem - I'm a miserable cook. I'm just hoping my daughter and daughter-in-law can walk me through it. They both swear by their Instant Pots. I have fear-of-failure. Daughter says there's lots on Pinterest too.

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM (lwiT4)

298 Yep. Apparently, she was born/raised in Leavenworth, KS, so Chiefs fan.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 20, 2019 06:40 PM (Dhht7)
I don't care about her politics, I love her voice, I love her music. But when did she start shopping at Goodwill? Yeesh . . . nice stores carry the bigger sizes, too.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:42 PM (14URa)

299 Bander,

Don't use warm water. Your windows will crack.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 06:42 PM (CRRq9)

300 I was sure someone would reply "Envy!"

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 06:42 PM (3HNOQ)

301 DO NOT PUT WATER ON THE WINDSHIELD

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:43 PM (/rm4P)

302 Cappellacio of porcine mushroom and truffle.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (+0faA)

303 Question! What makes russet potatoes turn green just under the skin?
Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 06:36 PM


The green is an accumulation of solanine, created as a reaction to light exposure. It causes a bitter taste, and can make you ill, if eaten in large quantities. You'd have to eat quite a bit, however.

You can peel off the green sections. (Also, peel away any sprouts, since they are also toxic).

Store potatoes is a dark place, instead of in the open exposed to light. Buy smaller quantities, like maybe two-weeks worth.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (DMUuz)

304 Also, Bander, though it may seem intuitively obvious, DO NOT pour gasoline and light a match.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (kQs4Y)

305 You need to get in, get it warmed up and start defroster

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (/rm4P)

306 Bander, google it. You can make a solution with salt (which doesn't sound good for the paint job) or rubbing alcohol. Tried to copy paste, but Pixy objected.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (14URa)

307 Bandersnatch, I keep seeing in the interwebs that you can put rubbing alcohol and water in a spray bottle (I think it was two parts alcohol, one part water) and ice will "magically" disappear.

I understand that it's due to the very low freezing temperature of rubbing alcohol, even much lower than what we are all experiencing right now.

Seems to me you could just wipe on some rubbing alcohol iffen you don't have a spare spray bottle.

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (OX9vb)

308 Thanks guys.

Water is right out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (fuK7c)

309 "Cooking" for cavemen who get dragged around by hair. Me eat meat, and only meat, raw.

Posted by: Grog at January 20, 2019 06:45 PM (LaHMs)

310 302 Cappellacio of porcine mushroom and truffle.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (+0faA)
----
*holds up bowl*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:45 PM (kQs4Y)

311 Bander, put some vinegar in a spray bottle, and spray the glass with that.

A credit card can be used as an emergency ice scraper.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:45 PM (DMUuz)

312 >>You can peel off the green sections. (Also, peel away any sprouts, since they are also toxic).

Per my brother (a chef) you should just toss the whole potato away if you see any green.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:46 PM (W+vEI)

313 Well, colder water isn't awful. But definitely NOT warm or hot water. The thermal gradient will create massive stresses and crack the glass.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:46 PM (Ct55T)

314 Also, Bander, though it may seem intuitively obvious, DO NOT pour gasoline and light a match.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 06:44 PM (kQs4Y)



True.

The proper technique is to make Molotov Cocktails then toss those at your car.

Melts the ice every time.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 06:46 PM (CRRq9)

315 I store them in the fridge. Not much light in there, I hope.

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 06:47 PM (3HNOQ)

316 Bander, put some vinegar in a spray bottle, and spray the glass with that.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:45 PM (DMUuz)


Good balsamic, though.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:47 PM (t+qrx)

317 A credit card can be used as an emergency ice scraper.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:45 PM (DMUuz)

So can a cassette tape! Since you have a million of them and nothing to play them on anymore, anyway.

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:47 PM (OX9vb)

318 Question: I saw an ad for something called the Power Smokeless Grill. Claims you can grill indoors and get that nice maillard or char reaction to the food without filling up the room with smoke. You can also griddle and steam, all nonstick and dishwasher safe. Comes with an air fryer on the side for free.

It sounds like good tech, but I am wary. Are these kinds of gadgets worth it, or are they blowing smoke? (pun intended) I do not want to blow $120 on a frustrating, useless thing that will just clutter up my cabinet.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (TnaCl)

319
Ideas? TIA

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM


yeah, hot (or even warm) water is not going to end well

I keep a spray bottle full of wiper juice in the trunk, it helps cut through the ice on the windshield & can help loosen frozen doors.

cold salt water may do the trick, but it could be harsh to the car's finish

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (KCxzN)

320 Eris, I will give you my version that has the chicken in white wine and the whole thing smothered in basil pesto.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (+0faA)

321 Even if colder than freezing a clear window facing the sun will warm the inside of a vehicle, water doesn't recognize wind chill.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (/rm4P)

322 So can a cassette tape! Since you have a million of them and nothing to play them on anymore, anyway.
Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:47 PM (OX9vb)


AOL diskettes!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (t+qrx)

323 Melissa Etheridge dripped with toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (RuIsu)

324 297 LizLem - I'm a miserable cook. I'm just hoping my daughter and daughter-in-law can walk me through it. They both swear by their Instant Pots. I have fear-of-failure. Daughter says there's lots on Pinterest too.
Posted by: grammie

Grammie!!!!
We love you!
Your Instant Pot lives you too!
Put a small ham (9lb or so) in there for 90 minutes. Take out the meat, leave the bones, put in green peas, potatoes, onions, spices.

Fart City?
Ja, but the bowls taste like home.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:49 PM (wNN8A)

325 323 Melissa Etheridge dripped with toxic masculinity.

*snort

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 06:49 PM (OX9vb)

326 rams

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 06:49 PM (KdryZ)

327 To be truthful the Saints won a few years ago and LA
football market while huge is a failed market. So to try and drive up
interest they had to throw the game their way.


Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:39 PM (/rm4P)

I said the same thing to someone a few minutes ago. He agreed the officiating was terrible.
I wonder what the citizens of St. Louis think?

Posted by: Vendette at January 20, 2019 06:49 PM (gILMG)

328 cold salt water may do the trick, but it could be harsh to the car's finish
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (KCxzN)

Long term, sure, but if it's winter in a region where your car is already frozen over, it's probably already completely coated in salt anyway, so that ship has pretty much already sailed. Different salt, of course, but corrosion is corrosion.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:49 PM (Ct55T)

329 323
Melissa Etheridge dripped with toxic masculinity.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (RuIsu)
That's not a bug, it's a feature.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:50 PM (14URa)

330 I keep a spray bottle full of wiper juice in the trunk, it helps cut through the ice on the windshield & can help loosen frozen doors.
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (KCxzN)


This is the right answer. Get a gallon of the super-concentrated orange flavor that's too expensive to use in the washer system, and use it to refill the spray bottle. The diluted blue raspberry flavor goes in the washer reservoir.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:50 PM (t+qrx)

331 AOL diskettes!
Posted by: hogmartin


I still have a few AOL CDs that I use as coasters. "1025 hours free!"

(for 45 days, so you need to be logged in 23 hours/day...)

Posted by: mikeski at January 20, 2019 06:50 PM (P1f+c)

332 You can eat green potatoes. Just peel them. If they are really, really green, they may taste bitter. If you eat a couple hundred of them, you might get a tummy ache.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 06:50 PM (NtglE)

333 I used to think I knew how to make steaks. Line the little NY strip bastards up on my broiling pan, pat on a little rub, broil in gas oven about 10 min side 1 and 8 t'other. Medium rare every time. But now after reading this thread I've decided I don't know how to make steaks and am afraid to even try. Therefore I will henceforth stick to Bloody Marys, although apparently I don't know how to make them either. But after you've had a few you just don't...wait, what was I saying?

Posted by: Caliban at January 20, 2019 06:50 PM (QE8X6)

334 Just a reminder for those hikers I'm leading to the summit of Mount Whitney tonight to observe the super blood wolf moon in the clear, thin atmosphere:

No campfires are permitted at the summit. I suggest bringing a canister stove and boil-in-the-bag meals for food tonight.

Again, only experienced high-altitude hikers should participate.

Posted by: Justice Ginsburg at January 20, 2019 06:51 PM (DuAZ5)

335 It gets cold enough the windshield washer spray just puts a coating of ice on the windshield if used.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:51 PM (/rm4P)

336 @330: "The diluted blue raspberry flavor goes in the washer reservoir."

Just when I thought the Tide Pod Challenge had fallen off everyone's radar, there you go talking about toxic Slurpee flavors.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:52 PM (I/iGu)

337 336 @330: "The diluted blue raspberry flavor goes in the washer reservoir."

Just when I thought the Tide Pod Challenge had fallen off everyone's radar, there you go talking about toxic Slurpee flavors.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:52 PM (I/iGu)

The green radiator juice is my favorite.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 06:52 PM (Ct55T)

338 Wow, I'm going to need a "timeout".

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 06:52 PM (9gHOW)

339 I'm pretty sure those green potatoes are what Russians use to make bathtub vodka that causes you to go blind.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:53 PM (I/iGu)

340 TIMEOUT!!!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:53 PM (wNN8A)

341 It gets cold enough the windshield washer spray just puts a coating of ice on the windshield if used.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 06:51 PM (/rm4P)


60/40 ethylene glycol and water freezes at about -50.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:53 PM (t+qrx)

342 TIMEOUT!!!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:53 PM (wNN8A)


I've been using that for ages.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM (9gHOW)

343 @337: "The green radiator juice is my favorite."

Bitter apple flavor!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM (I/iGu)

344 all y'all will have to ask CBD why he's never shared any of the awesome steak pictures i've sent him over they years with you folks...

i think he doesn't *really* like you as much as you think he does...

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM (pbYL9)

345 Sky promised to be full of wintry mix but instead it is beautifully clear.

We are going to brave the cold to see the eclipse.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM (w/exv)

346 @337: "The green radiator juice is my favorite."

Bitter apple flavor!
Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM (I/iGu)


Wild cherry ATF syrup is good too.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 06:56 PM (t+qrx)

347 Sacked!
TIMEOUT!!!!!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:56 PM (wNN8A)

348 Mahomes sacked all the way back to Peculiar.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 06:56 PM (RuIsu)

349 Just a reminder for those hikers I'm leading to the
summit of Mount Whitney tonight to observe the super blood wolf moon in
the clear, thin atmosphere:



No campfires are permitted at the summit. I suggest bringing a canister stove and boil-in-the-bag meals for food tonight.



Again, only experienced high-altitude hikers should participate.

Posted by: Justice Ginsburg at January 20, 2019 06:51 PM (DuAZ5)

---
yeah, because there's so much on that summit that could burn, you dumb bitch.

Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (pbYL9)

350 Dammit, they sacked him. Big time.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (14URa)

351 Hard to believe today, but when Melissa Ethridge came out with her album "Yes I Am (a lesbian)" her label rushed out to say "oh hell no, that's not what it means".

Yep, in 25 years we've gone from lesbianism being the kiss of death to oh you're a dude in a dress? Let's hand you some awards!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (cRkMZ)

352 all y'all will have to ask CBD why he's never shared any of the awesome steak pictures i've sent him over they years with you folks...
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM


IIRC, chemjeff sent in many steak pictures, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (DMUuz)

353 323 Melissa Etheridge dripped with toxic masculinity.
Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 06:48 PM (RuIsu)

She wrestled the Anthem to the ground.

Posted by: Caliban at January 20, 2019 06:58 PM (QE8X6)

354 I tried eating rare-rarish meat for awhile, and eventually discovered that I preferred my meat cooked through. It tastes better and isn't nearly so chewy.

Also, if you can afford to be picky about your steak you clearly have too much money and time on your hands. I can't remember the last time I had steak.

Posted by: Grey Fox at January 20, 2019 06:58 PM (bZ7mE)

355 Sacked!

TIMEOUT!!!!!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:56 PM (wNN8A)


Timeouts have been used forever and it's not like you're saying anything new.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 06:59 PM (9gHOW)

356 In vino,


Please email mark Andrew Edwards at his nic and get on our email list for a PNWMoMe. We are thinking Yakima in the spring.

Look forward to hearing from you!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 06:59 PM (PkVlr)

357 344 all y'all will have to ask CBD why he's never shared any of the awesome steak pictures i've sent him over they years with you folks...

i think he doesn't *really* like you as much as you think he does...
Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 06:54 PM (pbYL9

Because charred well done is best.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:59 PM (wNN8A)

358 Yep, in 25 years we've gone from lesbianism being the kiss of death to oh you're a dude in a dress? Let's hand you some awards!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (cRkMZ)

"You're just a plain 'ol lesbian? That's not authentic. Who gives a shit about that, grannie? Pffft. Lesbian. BFD."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:00 PM (Ct55T)

359 Okay, I am not gonna watch this shit anymore. Pathetic on defense and offense. Show me something Chiefs and I might go back and watch.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

360 Trump likes his steak well done. With ketchup.

This is the one thing he might deserve impeachment for.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 07:01 PM (w/exv)

361 Nurse, I just had an inspiration for your T-shirts, look for my email.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:01 PM (+0faA)

362 I for one prefer my beef...raw...ain't that right Reggie?

Posted by: Barack Obama at January 20, 2019 07:02 PM (cRkMZ)

363 51
Hard to believe today, but when Melissa Ethridge came out with her album
"Yes I Am (a lesbian)" her label rushed out to say "oh hell no, that's
not what it means".

Yep, in 25 years we've gone from lesbianism being the kiss of death to oh you're a dude in a dress? Let's hand you some awards!



Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (cRkMZ)

Or the latest Johnny Walker commercial with the two middle aged, well to do lesbians making goo-goo eyes at each other. While enjoying some JW Walker, of course.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 07:02 PM (sy5kK)

364 Skip - along the same lines re: RIF speculation and Trump's chess:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10868388467
57720064.html
Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM
~~~~~

I would LOVE to see this, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

On a more positive note, I didn't think PDT was going to win either. So what the hell do I know?!

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 07:02 PM (NtglE)

365 Trump likes his steak ground up, formed into a patty, grilled on a dirty flattop, and served between lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, and special sauce on a sesame seed bun.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:02 PM (Ct55T)

366 Or the latest Johnny Walker commercial with the two middle aged, well to do lesbians making goo-goo eyes at each other.
***

In fairness that happens to a lot of women after a couple of drinks. Or so Ace's browser history tells me.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 07:03 PM (cRkMZ)

367 9 Speaking of Pittsburgh, I've been to Primanti's a few times during my travels, and I don't get it. It just doesn't grab me. {Ducks from steel-toed boots thrown in my direction}

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (VigyG)

They took a big step downhill when they opened their second location. That was back in the 80s - I freely admit that I haven't eaten there for several decades.

Started out as good food for the all-night truckers and for college students pulling an all-nighter. I'm not sure how that ever got associated with food that tasted good or was good for you - students and truckers are both notorious for eating anything.

I have vague memories of very good french fries, cut from the potato after you ordered, fried, and handed to you to eat. Hard to beat that during or after a long day of classes or study.

Posted by: half a mind at January 20, 2019 07:03 PM (np68J)

368 359 Okay, I am not gonna watch this shit anymore. Pathetic on defense and offense. Show me something Chiefs and I might go back and watch.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:00 PM (dUJdY)

Oh, please tell me it isn't going to be 'Aints vs. Cheattriots for the SB...

I might not even watch it if that's the case.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (Ct55T)

369 awesome CBD!

making chile verde from scratch!

Posted by: concrete girl at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (3O41F)

370 I just cut off the green bits of potatoes and eat the still good parts. Have not gotten ill yet...

Yukon golds and reds are my faves, but since we are so close to Idaho, russets are dirt cheap.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (TnaCl)

371 Super-Duper-Blood-Dire-Zombie-Cannibal-Woof-Moon. Don't make eye contact with it.

Or Melissa Etheridge, for that matter.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (RuIsu)

372 chiefs looking bad

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (KdryZ)

373 "You're just a plain 'ol lesbian? That's not authentic. Who gives a shit about that, grannie? Pffft. Lesbian. BFD."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:00 PM (Ct55T)


There are some exciting discoveries being made in the field of theoretical lesbianism these days. Fermilab has a new lesbian collider starting up soon that will bring two lesbians together at near-relativistic speeds and hopefully observe the fundamental lesbons that have so far only been simulated on supercomputers.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (t+qrx)

374 Say what you will about lesbians, U-Hauls, and second dates, but at least they know how to hang shelves.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (I/iGu)

375
Look forward to hearing from you!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 06:59 PM (PkVlr)

Hi nurse!
Nice day around Seattle today, no rain, and a bit of blue sky, over there, and over there, between the clouds.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 07:05 PM (sy5kK)

376 Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (Ct55T) Saints already lost. rams won.

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:05 PM (KdryZ)

377 Show me something Chiefs and I might go back and watch.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:00 PM (dUJdY)


I'm known as the "Mitt Romney" of the playoffs.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (9gHOW)

378 Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (DMUuz)

Anyone ever see chemjeff and redc1c4 in the same room?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (l7me7)

379 373 "You're just a plain 'ol lesbian? That's not authentic. Who gives a shit about that, grannie? Pffft. Lesbian. BFD."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:00 PM (Ct55T)

There are some exciting discoveries being made in the field of theoretical lesbianism these days. Fermilab has a new lesbian collider starting up soon that will bring two lesbians together at near-relativistic speeds and hopefully observe the fundamental lesbons that have so far only been simulated on supercomputers.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (t+qrx)

Is there a new flavor for the standard model now? Top/bottom, up/down, charmed/strange, busty/itty-bitty?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (Ct55T)

380 how can they show you, if you are not watching ?

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (KdryZ)

381 Saints already lost. rams won.



Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:05 PM (KdryZ)


With a great deal of assistance from the zebras.

Posted by: Vendette at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (gILMG)

382 One can buy aftermarket fans for smokers and kamado grills to hit a target temp. Pre-heating cast-iron griddle or frying pan in hot grill might work, too.


Posted by: mrp at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (jeefx)

383 It's very painful to see these guys playing with bare arms. I never understand that. It's seriously cold AF out there.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (14URa)

384 There's a rib cook-off at the VFW coming up and I've been trying and tweaking a few different recipes.

I don't have a smoker and I'm not standing outside i 10 degree weather, so I've been limiting myself to braise and broil recipes.

Tonight's was Alton Brown's turn. Ribs were succulent and tender, but the glaze/sauce was kinda meh. Too much salt, and not enough spice or sweet. But the basics are there so I'm gonna play with it again next week.

Anyone have any good braise/broil recipes for ribs?

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 07:06 PM (NtglE)

385 Oh, please tell me it isn't going to be 'Aints vs. Cheattriots for the SB...



I might not even watch it if that's the case.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (Ct55T)

Not the Saints. They were bad-called out of the NFC championship game by the refs.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 07:07 PM (sy5kK)

386 Oh grammie, I forgot to say potatoes in the IP are amazing! Use the IP to cook the masked potatoes, and at thanksgiving it frees up the stove for other things.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 07:07 PM (TnaCl)

387 Ketchup is Redneck Steak Sauce, so I put ketchup on my steak AND on my hotdogs.

I'm a real gourmet.

Posted by: ALH at January 20, 2019 07:07 PM (/Z/Su)

388 376 Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:04 PM (Ct55T) Saints already lost. rams won.
Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:05 PM (KdryZ)

Oh... oops. guess i misread what peeps were saying here... more focused on meat and ice-melting techniques.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:07 PM (Ct55T)

389 Nurse, I have had fumbleitis . I will try again and please ignore the second email.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:07 PM (+0faA)

390 I have been craving steak. I may go to texas roadhouse this week. the other place that serves a decent steak costs an arm and a leg.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 07:07 PM (9L2du)

391 60/40 ethylene glycol and water freezes at about -50.

Is that what windshield fluid is made of?

I have a pump sprayer that can hold 5 gallons, should I just douse the thing in wiper fluid?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (fuK7c)

392 The KC Chiefs have transitioned to the Squaws for this game.


Good for them.

They're so brave and fierce!


Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (CRRq9)

393 Skip - along the same lines re: RIF speculation and Trump's chess:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10868388467
57720064.html
Posted by: Lizzy at January 20, 2019 06:20 PM
~~~~~

I would LOVE to see this, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

On a more positive note, I didn't think PDT was going to win either. So what the hell do I know?!
Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 07:02 PM (NtglE)


The "Chicago Boyz" think there is no way Trump cannot win (it's got macguffin and a dragon with just a hint of SES RIF).


https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/58868.html


Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (1g7ch)

394 So question - if you have two white lesbians - but one is actually a tranny, do they get more or less intersection points then a handicapped Muslim with 4 born female wives?

Or, American Indian furry vs Nigerian honest to goodness shaman (who may or may not also be a prince)?

Or non-Chinese/Japanese Asian communist vs American software developer in a polygamous marriage with two transsexual llamas?



Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (cRkMZ)

395 At the risk of angering our host Mr. Dildo, maple cheerios are pretty good. As far as cheerios go.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (MVjcR)

396 Jewells, get your ass back here. Chiefs just had a pick. In the end zone.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:09 PM (14URa)

397 Is there a game on?

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:09 PM (MVjcR)

398 Oh when the Saint don't go marching in...oh when the Saints don't go marching in, why I'd love to be in that number when the Saints don't go marching in....to the superbowl.

Posted by: The Refs at January 20, 2019 07:09 PM (cRkMZ)

399 11 Sheesh. Why don't you just club a cow out in the field and devour him while squatting on your haunches around a fire?

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (T6t7i)

Who needs the fire? My father used to claim waving the steak in the sun was enough on a hot day out west. Probably helps that any cow stupid enough to go out to a field was cooked to nearly 140 before you could catch up and club it in the field. Fence or pavement served to char the exterior properly.

Posted by: half a mind at January 20, 2019 07:10 PM (np68J)

400 394 So question - if you have two white lesbians - but one is actually a tranny, do they get more or less intersection points then a handicapped Muslim with 4 born female wives?

Or, American Indian furry vs Nigerian honest to goodness shaman (who may or may not also be a prince)?

Or non-Chinese/Japanese Asian communist vs American software developer in a polygamous marriage with two transsexual llamas?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (cRkMZ)

*freeze-frame*

Tune in next week to find out!

Posted by: Warai-otoko hopes like hell they aren't thinking of re-making "Soap" like this.... at January 20, 2019 07:10 PM (Ct55T)

401 At the risk of angering our host Mr. Dildo, maple cheerios are pretty good. As far as cheerios go.

___

Wait a minute....Jeff Bezos owns this site? Hey Mr Divorce Lawyer guy come here stat!


Posted by: Mrs Bezos at January 20, 2019 07:10 PM (cRkMZ)

402 Whew, that pulled my chestnuts out of the fire.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 07:10 PM (9gHOW)

403 At the risk of angering our host Mr. Dildo, maple cheerios are pretty good. As far as cheerios go.


I don't think the Dildo is anti-maple per se, he's just against using it in God's preferred form on French Toast.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:11 PM (fuK7c)

404 394
So question - if you have two white lesbians - but one is actually a
tranny, do they get more or less intersection points then a handicapped
Muslim with 4 born female wives?

Or, American Indian furry vs Nigerian honest to goodness shaman (who may or may not also be a prince)?

Or non-Chinese/Japanese Asian communist vs American software developer in a polygamous marriage with two transsexual llamas?







Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (cRkMZ)

18-1, asking the tough questions nobody else dare ask.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 07:11 PM (sy5kK)

405 Tune in next week to find out!

Posted by: Warai-otoko hopes like hell they aren't thinking of re-making "Soap" like this.... at January 20, 2019 07:10 PM (Ct55T)
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You'll make Heidi mad!!

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:11 PM (MVjcR)

406
Weasel just appeared.

A gun thread is about to nooded?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:11 PM (prTbl)

407 Bander - can't you get into the vehicle?

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 07:11 PM (/rm4P)

408 Weasel just appeared.

A gun thread is about to nooded?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:11 PM (prTbl)
----
SOON

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

409 I miss the site Regretsy, where Helen Killer trawled the Etsy stores looking for the worst in crafting. This lady does too, and started her own:

http://missingregretsy.tumblr.com/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 07:12 PM (kQs4Y)

410 I'll look, Ben. Thank you in advance for your help!


Hi LCD!!! hope we get to howl at the moon tonight! Looking cloudy to the west though....

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 07:13 PM (PkVlr)

411 IIRC, chemjeff sent in many steak pictures, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 06:57 PM (DMUuz)
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Because charred well done is best.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 06:59 PM (wNN8A)

---
Ahem. we show the cow a picture of a fire on a flash card, then start eating it...

guests asking for anything above medium rare will receive a plate with charcoal on it where everyone else is getting beef.



Posted by: redc1c4 at January 20, 2019 07:13 PM (pbYL9)

412 SOON
Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

Still calculating windage adjustments to compensate for bullet lift due to lunar gravity?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:13 PM (Ct55T)

413 Cinnamon Life > Maple Cheerios

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

414 I see Weasel with a handful of roasted pecans in his hand.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (+0faA)

415 Ben.



Lol!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (PkVlr)

416 Winter storm Harpy (or whatever it is) is proving uncomfortable. Temp in the teens, and dropping, light snow showers now and then, but, it's the windiness that is cutting.

Very clear outside. An astoundingly bright near-full moon. I recall that we are due a Super moon in the next day or so. I also noticed that it rose from a much more northerly direction than usual. Probably the Yankees screwing around with things.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (KoKdw)

417 Is that what windshield fluid is made of?

I have a pump sprayer that can hold 5 gallons, should I just douse the thing in wiper fluid?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:08 PM (fuK7c)


Well, I don't know how concentrated it is. It's the kind that comes in a gallon jug that you pour into the washer reservoir, right? So it could be mostly water, since it's meant to wash and not strictly de-ice.

They do sell sprays that are the right ratio of water to ethylene glycol, but washer fluid is more dilute than that. Spraying an iced-over car with washer fluid isn't going to do a whole lot if it's thick ice and it's really cold out. If you can get out to a gas station or something, you could probably get that stuff, but I don't know if there's one near you or if you can catch a ride.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (t+qrx)

418 Bander - can't you get into the vehicle?

I can get in, but the heater doesn't really do anything until it's in motion. I think I can get some heat out of it if I keep it revved, but that would be a tomorrow project.

Now it's running in the hope that it's changed its mind about heating and I'll check on it at half-time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (fuK7c)

419 I thought chemjeff reappeard as KCJeff ? was that someone else. used all the right words.

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:14 PM (KdryZ)

420 Infidel, does your Texas Roadhouse have the waitstaff occasionally break into line dancing? Ours does.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 07:15 PM (TnaCl)

421 BTW, you avoid the Russet conundrum if you use Yukon Gold for all of your potato needs.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 07:15 PM (VigyG)

422 I see Weasel with a handful of roasted pecans in his hand.


And his hair was perfect.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:15 PM (fuK7c)

423 Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:12 PM (MVjcR)

Still calculating windage adjustments to compensate for bullet lift due to lunar gravity?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:13 PM (Ct55T)
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I was just outside shivering and enjoying my pre-gun thread cigar and noticed the big full moon. Or more correctly, one and a half full moons. My eyes are getting old at an alarming rate.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:15 PM (MVjcR)

424 Peaches, this is what happens. I leave and they do something. My daughter told me I can't watch the game anymore, lmao!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:15 PM (dUJdY)

425 Mike Hammer super moon is tonight. Along with an eclipse. Check last thread or so.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (w/exv)

426
Re: car heaters that don't work good in Winter

In the Olden Days, we'd put cardboard in front of the grill.

The cardboard would prevent the fan from sucking in the ice cold air past the radiator.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (prTbl)

427 We can't anything going offensively.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

428 421
BTW, you avoid the Russet conundrum if you use Yukon Gold for all of your potato needs.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 07:15 PM (VigyG)
I find them too creamy (?) for mashed. Russets have a nice texture.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (14URa)

429 I think it's pretty offensive myself.

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (KdryZ)

430 427 We can't anything going offensively.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)

I'm a Birds fan, so I'm kinda rooting for the Chiefs now, just to see Andy Reid get a ring.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:17 PM (Ct55T)

431 Nurse, should I take that as a yes?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:17 PM (+0faA)

432 It is overcast, snow due tomorrow, so no wolf blood moons for me tonight.

Posted by: LizLem at January 20, 2019 07:17 PM (TnaCl)

433 Very clear outside. An astoundingly bright near-full moon. I recall that we are due a Super moon in the next day or so. I also noticed that it rose from a much more northerly direction than usual. Probably the Yankees screwing around with things.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
--------

Well, duh. I see it is tonight, as well as an eclipse. I expect this has been discussed...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:17 PM (KoKdw)

434 (400) I'm working on a 4 dimensioned intersectionality scoring slide rule.

I'm running into dead ends, so an extra dimension may necessitated. Something to do with the cube root of negative Pi.

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 07:18 PM (RuIsu)

435
Did you ever notice how Mark Twain's A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is kind of like a Mary Sue thing? Or maybe like Rey in Star Wars?

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 07:18 PM (eXA4G)

436 427
We can't anything going offensively.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:16 PM (dUJdY)
Mahomes is a kid. Let him settle down. First half, second half. Everything can change. They're had such an awesome year.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:18 PM (14URa)

437 I would run it but let heat build up before turning blower on.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 07:18 PM (/rm4P)

438 So if the Chefs do turn things around and get to the Stupid Bowl, what is the over under? 120?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2019 07:18 PM (cRkMZ)

439 blaster - Thanks. Those who know me know that I'm slow on the uptake.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:19 PM (Ou6XS)

440 Something to do with the cube root of negative Pi.
___

I like pie.

Posted by: Melissa Etheridge at January 20, 2019 07:19 PM (cRkMZ)

441 18-1, whoever wins this game here, I want to see the Rams eat shit. Sorry, but it's how I really feel.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:19 PM (14URa)

442 Well, duh. I see it is tonight, as well as an eclipse. I expect this has been discussed...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:17 PM (KoKdw)

---------------

Ace's thread on it is one floor down.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 20, 2019 07:19 PM (ffYR/)

443 Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:18 PM (14URa)

Yeah, last time we played them it was close. I recall Mahomes was a bit nervous. Hope he can settle down and get this done.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (dUJdY)

444 295 OK, this is wildly OT but the Horde can be full of knowledge.

My car is iced in. More than 1/4" maybe a half. Hack hack hack with the scraper does little to nothing.

I thought maybe I'd just wait til tomorrow and let the sun warm it up, but tomorrow's high is going to be 8 deg. The hitch is that the heater doesn't really start to work until the car is moving. I'm letting it run now but I have little hope.

So, (i) I assume that it's dangerous to try to pour warm or hot water on the windshield. Is that correct?, and (ii) I have a sprayer and was thinking that maybe a solution of warm water and salt might get me somewhere.

Ideas? TIA

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 06:41 PM (fuK7c)

When expecting ice, park so your windshield is exposed to the sun. The interior of the car will heat, melting the layer of ice right next to the car. If you can then exert enough force to break the ice (over the metal parts, not the glass), the broken ice will come right off. Ice on the glass will often then slide off with little effort.

Anti-freeze is a deadly poison that apparently tastes good to pets. Do not use it unless you plan to wash any residue down a storm drain. Alcohol may help, both because of the lower freezing temperature and because any excess alcohol will help remove the water as i melts. Think the green windshield fluid (if you live far enough north you will be familiar with it) that you need to use when that trashy blue stuff freezes solid overnight. Salt may help (NaCl if the temperature is 20F or higher, I think KCl is required for lower temperatures down to nearly 0F, I think, but I'm too lazy to look it up.) Solar assisted heating is your best bet, but requires pre-planning to make it work. A heating pad applied to the inside of the window should work in theory, but I have never fallen that low (I paid for that heated windshield, I'm going to use it!) - think one of those blue ice packages, but soak it in heated water rather than freezing it.

Posted by: half a mind at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (np68J)

445 I think if I were President not paying your security guards would not seem a great idea

Posted by: Unpaid secret service at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (05oyJ)

446 Ben!


Yes PLEASE!

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (PkVlr)

447 The page on cow udder also includes links to a veritable festival of cringe-inducing delicacies that I can't imagine being drunk enough to eat. Like cow hoof soup. Uh...yum?

Posted by: antisocialist at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (2shuf)

448 LizLem, occasionally.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (9L2du)

449 I'm running into dead ends, so an extra dimension may necessitated. Something to do with the cube root of negative Pi.
Posted by: Burger Chef
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At the least, it will have to be circular, but more likely, shaped like a Mobius strip. Nice project.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:22 PM (Ou6XS)

450 yeah.. I'm late to the party.. as per usual..
But that steak up top is very poorly cooked. It might have a nice crust, but the gray meat underneath it is inexcusable!
Reverse sear.. or at the very least a quick sear and into the oven.
I like mine somewhere between medium rare and medium.. a good deep pink all the way through.. without any of that gray crap.
and lamb chops? Medium rare-medium! Made them the other night.. broiled to perfection!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 20, 2019 07:23 PM (438dO)

451
Cars these days don't even have grills. They have slits.

But if you block half or more of the radiator with cardboard, you'll get more Heat out of the vents.

Until the car overheats, which will eventually lead to catastrophe.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:23 PM (prTbl)

452 Late to thread but I was thinking that the best meal someone has ever eaten involves a lot more than just how good the food is.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:23 PM (2DOZq)

453
Trollsign! Usul has called a big one!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 07:24 PM (eXA4G)

454 Posted by: half a mind at January 20, 2019 07:20 PM (np68J)

Good to see you.
How are you feeling, brother?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 07:25 PM (AllCR)

455
Just for the record, we hate this Blood Moon thing.

Posted by: The Crips at January 20, 2019 07:26 PM (eXA4G)

456 Late to thread but I was thinking that the best meal someone has ever eaten involves a lot more than just how good the food is.


Like the ones that result in a successful seduction.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)

457 Oh, did you notice "fat and gristle?" Good. Because that is an integral
part of any great steak. Crispy, practically liquid fat is one of the
joys of eating, and a piece of gristle, coated with that fat and
softened and crisped by the heat is an unsung glory of the carnivorous
arts. -- CBD

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It is known.
That's why I love keto.


Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 07:27 PM (9rIkM)

458 (449) Mobius Rainbow! It's inclusive!

Posted by: Burger Chef at January 20, 2019 07:27 PM (RuIsu)

459 Bander,

My thoughts exactly

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 07:27 PM (PkVlr)

460 I can get in, but the heater doesn't really do anything until it's in motion.

If it's an automatic, you can get the engine up to normal operating temp faster by putting it in drive, holding the brake tightly and running the engine up to 1500-2000 RPM. Be sure there's nothing you care a lot about in front of you in case your foot slips

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at January 20, 2019 07:27 PM (NYgVq)

461 Hmm, got strange message on laptop. Battery fully charged, consider replacing you battery.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 07:27 PM (9L2du)

462 456 Late to thread but I was thinking that the best meal someone has ever eaten involves a lot more than just how good the food is.


Like the ones that result in a successful seduction.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)

Heh. That was the night that I think I had the best steak I ever had. Cafe Annie. For all I know the after meal dessert may have subconsciously made me think that.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:29 PM (2DOZq)

463 Hmm, what kind of car, Bander?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:29 PM (t+qrx)

464 Weasel -
What are you smoking this evening? I have a Romeo y Julietta 1875. And a glass of Madeira.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 07:30 PM (YndB3)

465 Cars these days don't even have grills. They have slits.
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Apparently you haven't encountered a Lexus RC:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8lzv4gv

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:30 PM (w54mS)

466 Nood. Guns.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:30 PM (14URa)

467 Gun nood. Find out the answer to last week's cliffhanger.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at January 20, 2019 07:31 PM (NYgVq)

468
Hmm, what kind of car, Bander?
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 07:29 PM (t+qrx)



If it's a Pinto, I think you just need to tap the bumper.

Posted by: Dateline NBC at January 20, 2019 07:31 PM (9gHOW)

469 But my best meal was homemade shrimp creole after a day of skiing that started with a broke down car in the Rockies. I can still taste the joy that everything was right in the world.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (2DOZq)

470
Like the ones that result in a successful seduction.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:26 PM (fuK7c)

If you're planning a seduction make sure she comes to your house because if you go out with a completely iced windshield the only object you're likely to seduce-or rather you car is- is the ditch on the side of the road. Stay safe!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (AllCR)

471 If it's a Pinto, I think you just need to tap the bumper.


Posted by: Dateline NBC at January 20, 2019 07:31 PM (9gHOW)
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (14URa)

472
If it's an automatic, you can get the engine up to normal operating temp faster by putting it in drive, holding the brake tightly and running the engine up to 1500-2000 RPM. Be sure there's nothing you care a lot about in front of you in case your foot slips
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg
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Well, yes, but rather hard on the transmission.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (w54mS)

473 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 07:30 PM (YndB3)
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Nice!
I had a Cohiba knock off.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (MVjcR)

474 COJ, I'm having a coffee infused cheroot courtesy of Weasel and a Balvenie.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 07:32 PM (+0faA)

475 Hmm, what kind of car, Bander?


Is an XTerra.

I'm thinking that maybe tomorrow I'll get another extension cord (I don't think the one I have is long enough) and just put a space heater in it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:33 PM (fuK7c)

476 I poured warm water on my windshield all the time to quickly get rid of ice.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 07:33 PM (2DOZq)

477 Ben Had...... a coffee infused cheroot ?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (YndB3)

478 An intersectionality slide rule is deceptively simple...

it's simply a 12" x 1" slat of wood with "THAT'S NOT FUNNY" in large block print Sharpie letters.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 07:35 PM (Ct55T)

479 We used to hook lawn sprinklers up and run on girl's cars overnight in sub freezing temps. Next morning, 8 ton car.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 20, 2019 07:38 PM (bttOm)

480
Go to gun thread.

I just 'mented a good solution for your iced windscreen.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at January 20, 2019 07:39 PM (prTbl)

481 TIMEOUT!!!?&!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 07:43 PM (wNN8A)

482 I just 'mented a good solution for your iced windscreen.

Tanks

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 07:43 PM (fuK7c)

483 can the chiefs suck any more ? not even 3 on that possession ?

Posted by: Wall E. George at January 20, 2019 07:45 PM (KdryZ)

484 For years I thought I'd invented my own way of making steaks, and then someone told me it had already been invented and was called a Pittsburgh steak. I'd always liked charred fat on the outside, and bleeding raw on the inside, but never realized I could get both at once, until one night when I was hungry, didn't want to go out (snow on the ground), and the only really solid food I had in the house was a strip steak in the freezer. I thought "If I put this in the pan frozen as it is, and broil it long enough, it will certainly be edible. I wonder if it will be any good?" This was before microwaves, and defrosting it would have taken far too long. It was delicious! Burnt to charcoal on the outside AND raw on the inside! The only difficulty in making a Pittsburgh steak this way is making sure it's the right thickness. A 1/2" steak will be well-done in the middle before it's charcoal on the outside, and a 2" steak will still be frozen solid in the middle even when thoroughly charred on the outside. An inch or so works very well. I make all my steaks this way now - not having a grill.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at January 20, 2019 07:49 PM (298vS)

Reminder: The "Super Blood Wolf Moon" Total Eclipse Is Tonight

It will be red and big, and then it will disappear in a total eclipse.

The total eclipse will begin at 11:41 Eastern, but the partial eclipse, in which the moon will dim and turn reddish, starts at 10:33 Eastern.

This unique total lunar eclipse will begin on January 20 at 10:35 p.m. ET and end at 1:51 a.m. ET on January 21.

"Viewers will see a normal full moon at first starting at around 10:35 p.m. Eastern time," said Walter Freeman, assistant teaching professor at Syracuse University's College of Arts and Sciences' physics department. "At that time, the Earth's shadow will begin to pass in front of the moon, blocking almost all of the sun's light from reaching it. Observers will see the moon appear to be progressively 'swallowed up' starting from the lower left. This process will end at 11:40 p.m., when the Earth's shadow covers the whole of the moon's surface; this is the beginning of 'totality.' This will last until around 12:40 a.m., when the motion of the Earth's shadow will carry it past the moon, and the moon will gradually again be lit by the sun. At 1:45 a.m., the moon will be fully visible again."

Note that the precise times given by sources vary. The exact times might depend on your exact position on the earth. Anyway, they all seem to agree about those general times.

It will be a perfect eclipse through most of North America and South America.

Here's the Farmer's Almanac about the meaning of a super moon and a blood moon:

2. What is a Supermoon
This is a "supermoon" eclipse because the eclipse occurs when the Moon is near "perigee," its closest point to Earth. Perigee is the term astronomers use. When this happens, the Earth’s shadow will engulf the full Moon, transforming the lunar disk into a coppery-red orb.



3. What is a Blood Moon?
As mentioned above, a lunar eclipse occurs when the Moon passes into the shadow of the Earth; this causes the usually bright full Moon to turn a dark, coppery-red. Hence, this eclipsed Moon is being nicknamed the "Blood Moon" in the media. "'Blood Moon' is not a term used in astronomy. It's more of a popular phrase, perhaps because it sounds so dramatic. It simply refers to a 'total lunar eclipse.'"

The wolf moon is just the first full moon of the new year.

If you have misbehaving children, tonight is a good night to Re-Impose Your Parental Authority by taking them into the back yard and telling them you will Destroy the Moon unless they clean their Legos off the floor.

Open thread. Obviously you can't talk about a coming eclipse very long, unless you're a crazy person.

I'll do another post on this later, and then maybe put another one up around midnight.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 04:02 PM




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Posted by: olddog in mo at January 20, 2019 03:58 PM (Dhht7)

2 I can't eat a blood moon

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 03:59 PM (/rm4P)

3 Corgis called.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 20, 2019 03:59 PM (Dhht7)

4 Ace, on a Sunday?

Posted by: HH at January 20, 2019 03:59 PM (mIJBI)

5 Ace!

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:00 PM (9hauA)

6 "If you have misbehaving children, tonight is a good night to Re-Impose Your Parental Authority by taking them into the back yard and telling them you will Destroy the Moon unless they clean their Legos off the floor."

This guy gets it. Works every time.

Posted by: Aztec Priest From Apocalypto at January 20, 2019 04:00 PM (7PLM4)

7 May the blood moon bring my Chiefs good luck tonight!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 04:00 PM (dUJdY)

8 Overcast and snowy here, so meh.

Plus, cold.

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 04:01 PM (RU4sa)

9 Super Blood Wolf Moon"

Is that the name of the twatwaffle causing the twatter ruckus, or a recipe from She Who Makes Crab Dip?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (6qErC)

10 Pretty sure clouds will obscure it here in Hoosierville. Plus, past my bedtime. I can watch it on the internet tomorrow. And, yes, I denounce myself.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (14URa)

11 "Super Blood" sounds like a '70s Blaxploitation movie.

And this whole eclipse thing is gonna do me no good in Portland. Socked in and raining right now.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (Hx3Yn)

12 Aren't there some Christians that make a really big deal out of blood moons. Has something to do with Israel.

Personally, I stay away from that kind of thing. There's enough plain stuff in the Bible that I need to step up my game on.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (9hauA)

13 I actually have some composit picture of a blood moon with different phases on one image. Didn't get to end as it was taking a long time.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (/rm4P)

14 "Open thread. Obviously you can't talk about a coming eclipse very long, unless you're a crazy person."

I saw an eclipse once. Unfortunately it was the Team Edward one and I was dragged there by a chick.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:03 PM (7PLM4)

15 "Viewers outside the Pacific Northwest which as usual is cloud-covered and raining on the night of a cool astronomical event will see a normal full moon at first starting at around 10:35 p.m. Eastern time," said Walter Freeman


FIFY

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 04:03 PM (786Ro)

16 Mrs. Franpsycho is always going on about the stars and the moon and the orbits. I did not know that planetary orbits are not symmetrical.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2019 04:03 PM (EZebt)

17 Going to let the oldest kid stay up to watch this with me. Cheap Daddy/daughter date.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at January 20, 2019 04:03 PM (Nu6Gg)

18 8 It's appalling that Covington Catholic school student Nicholas Sandmann and his family have been doxxed all over the internet by the rabid left

Posted by: No justice at January 20, 2019 04:01 PM (b/FCW)

Wtf. Seriously not cool dude.

Posted by: Stop doxxing you idiot at January 20, 2019 04:04 PM (P2XLt)

19 Tonight, we howl at the moon.

Posted by: Marini Farmer at January 20, 2019 04:04 PM (3H9h1)

20 "Super Blood" sounds like a '70s Blaxploitation movie.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (Hx3Yn)

Or a Whitesnake album.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:04 PM (7PLM4)

21 Posted by: No justice at January 20, 2019 04:01 PM (b/FCW)

You're cute but dumb.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2019 04:04 PM (EZebt)

22 Yeah, Blood Moon, Chiefs game. Hopefully a good night.

Posted by: HH at January 20, 2019 04:04 PM (mIJBI)

23 The Honeymooners!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (aKsyK)

24 It will be red and big, and then it will disappear in a total eclipse.

No.

Posted by: Flavrt at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (MLejI)

25 And I opened the seventh seal and a voice said the moon shall be red as blood and Ace will post on a Sunday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (gC2IV)

26 It's appalling that Covington Catholic school student [redacted] and his family have been doxxed all over the internet by the rabid left

Posted by: No justice at January 20, 2019 04:01 PM (b/FCW)


Ace - banhammer this IP. TrueTroll.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (jYje5)

27 I plan to sleep through the whole thing, long day tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (/rm4P)

28 It's called a "Super Blood Wolf Moon" because "Super Blood Tater Stetler Moon" wasn't scary enough.

For $500, Alex.

Posted by: Wolf B., 4th-place Jeopardy Contestant at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (Ndje9)

29 I have MLK day off tomorrow, so I'll try to remember.

Not like I ever go to bed early, anyway.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:06 PM (9hauA)

30 I'm not going out until there's a 3 wolf blood moon.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 04:06 PM (T71PA)

31 Super Blood Wolf Moon...I'm pretty sure that means I turn into a werewolf tonight.

Posted by: Naturalfake at January 20, 2019 04:06 PM (CRRq9)

32 The wolf moon is just the first full moon of the new year.

Species-ist!

Posted by: Mountain Lion Action Network at January 20, 2019 04:07 PM (786Ro)

33 How does this affect werewolves?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 20, 2019 04:07 PM (Rxduq)

34 I'm not going out until there's a 3 wolf blood moon."

The tshirt is still on amazon...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:07 PM (6qErC)

35 Why aren't the preeminent astronomical oracle Neil DeGrasse Tyson's views and commentary about this rare phenomenon being mined?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (DMUuz)

36 How does this affect werewolves?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 20, 2019 04:07 PM (Rxduq)


They get all weepy.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (T71PA)

37 Orange Moon bad.

Posted by: CNN at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (t4gIP)

38 Wtf. Seriously not cool dude.

Posted by: Stop doxxing you idiot at January 20, 2019 04:04 PM (P2XLt)
Major asshole move there. Thanks for speaking out on it.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (14URa)

39 How does this affect werewolves?
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Temporary power incontinence.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (Hx3Yn)

40 Blood Moon.

Didn't Nostrodamus have a queertrain number 9 about "after the blood moon and before the tide, GBR will awaken and cry then be buried alive forsaking all she had on the shores of the Pot Tome Ac river."

I believe it, I believe it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (Z+IKu)

41 I'm not going out until there's a 3 wolf blood moon.

Posted by: DR.WTF
---Best reviews ever: https://tinyurl.com/ydf74rxv

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (9rIkM)

42 How does this affect werewolves?"

Therewolf?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (6qErC)

43
g'afternoon, 'rons

wish I could see it, should be perfectly clear around here, but it's past my bedtime

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (KCxzN)

44 If the sky is so overcast I can't see the moon is there really an eclipse?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (/tuJf)

45
I'll do another post on this later, and then maybe put another one up around midnight.



Posted by Ace of Spades


You're making some pretty big assumptions about the continued existence of the earth, aren't you?

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (T6t7i)

46 Major asshole move there. Thanks for speaking out on it.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:08 PM (14URa)
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Given the phrasing, I think it's the same guy from last night.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (Hx3Yn)

47 A whir willf?

-Hot Italian chick in an MST movie

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not a Dullard at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (FXbwN)

48 Banhammer it.

Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (XROPS)

49

Don't go 'round tonight
It's bound to take your life
There's a blood moon on the rise

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (aKsyK)

50 Supermoon has GAINZZZ

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (786Ro)

51 The wolf moon is just the first full moon of the new year.

Species-ist!
Posted by: Mountain Lion Action Network at January 20, 2019 04:07 PM (786Ro)

There you go with the animal patriarchy. Why must it be fierce animals? Why can't it be cute, gentle ones like bunnies?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (9hauA)

52 I've texted a cob abt the scum bucket @ #8.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (vUcdz)

53 Ace posting on Sunday? His photograph above the fold on the current post of The Other McCain?

Correlation or Causation?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (DMUuz)

54 There's a blood moon on the rise
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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I always heard it as *There's a bathroom on the right.*

Hmmm. Go figure.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:11 PM (9rIkM)

55 I see a bad moon a rising
I see trouble on the way
I see earthquakes and lighting
I see bad times today
https://youtu.be/w6iRNVwslM4

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:11 PM (/rm4P)

56 53
I've texted a cob abt the scum bucket @ #8.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (vUcdz)
Thank you! And, OT but, would it be churlish of me to mention that the food thread normally hits at 4 pm ET on Sundays? Where's CBD? I live for that thread.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:11 PM (14URa)

57 Sunday ace. Must be the time of the Super Red Wolf Ultramax Caged Heat Moon.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:11 PM (ycWCI)

58 Given the phrasing, I think it's the same guy from last night.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM


Also this morning. Dumb troll doesn't realize that by posting here his IP address, and physical address can be easily resolved -- sometimes to within 100 feet of actual address.

But Soros doesn't hire the best and the brightest. Quite the opposite.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 04:11 PM (jYje5)

59 If the sky is so overcast I can't see the moon is there really an eclipse?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (/tuJf)

If a bear craps in the woods and no one hears it, is the Pope Catholic?

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:11 PM (7PLM4)

60 There you go with the animal patriarchy. Why must it be fierce animals? Why can't it be cute, gentle ones like bunnies?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (9hauA)
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Hey, hedgehogs could give you a nasty nick.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (Hx3Yn)

61
And this shall be a sign unto you: the Third Year of Orangeman Bad will begin with a Blood Moon to affirm, aggressively, that severely heterosexual Senator Cory Booker is indeed severely heterosexual. So spoke the Prophets.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (XaO9F)

62 Ace should add to this to his anti Bill Kristol litany:

Kristol castigated the Covington High MAGA boys. and then went off that if they had been wearing McCain hats, Saint John would have called the Old Indian to apologize. "Will Trump?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (1UZdv)

63 ET on Sundays? "

Entertainment Tonight is still on?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (6qErC)

64 52 I've texted a cob abt the scum bucket @ #8.
Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (vUcdz)

C'mon, SMH is just giving us a weather report!
j/k

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (ycWCI)

65 So spoke the Prophets.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (XaO9F)
Don't you mean "Thus spake the Prophets?" smh . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (14URa)

66 If a bear craps in the woods and no one hears it, is the Pope Catholic?
Posted by: Vanya
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Given the current one, just barely.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (9rIkM)

67 Why is ace working on a Sunday. Did one of the cobs quit? get fired? die??? Something is not right in the universe!!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (kufk0)

68 Nice and clear here today. Should have a great view of the eclipse.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (IcJtd)

69 Personally, I stay away from that kind of thing. There's enough plain stuff in the Bible that I need to step up my game on.

Posted by: chique d'afrique


Most of this was covered in the Book of Ghostbusters.
RAY: I remember Revelation 7:12. And I looked, as he opened the sixth
seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became as
black as sackcloth. And the moon became as blood.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (T6t7i)

70 67
Why is ace working on a Sunday. Did one of the cobs quit? get fired? die??? Something is not right in the universe!!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (kufk0)
Well, it's 4:18 and there's no food thread so I'm wondering if CBD needs our thoughts and prayers.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (14URa)

71 If a bear craps in the woods and no one hears it, is the Pope Catholic?"

Only if the blind squirrel finds his nuts. Twice a day.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (6qErC)

72 But..but....I'm here for the food thread.

Posted by: TickledPink at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (VpnSm)

73
I'll do another post on this later, and then maybe put another one up around midnight.



Posted by Ace of Spades

You're making some pretty big assumptions about the continued existence of the earth, aren't you?
Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:09 PM (T6t7i)







Remember, Teh Ewok totally doesn't have a time machine, so he might be able to not see into the future.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (eXA4G)

74 67 Why is ace working on a Sunday. Did one of the cobs quit? get fired? die??? Something is not right in the universe!!!!
Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (kufk0)

It is spoken of by the wise women, that under the Lunar eclipse, Ewoks awaken from their weekend slumber- and their rage is a terrible thing to behold.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (ycWCI)

75 i'm ready as ever!...hopin the fog goes away.

Posted by: concrete girl at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (3O41F)

76 Lex Luthor Kotex Mountain Lion Sun is Super Blood Wolf Moon's Arch-Enemy.

Posted by: Naturalfake at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (CRRq9)

77
Lovable Little Fuzzball- a limerick

Here's some astronomy moon-viewing tips
For when the earth-sun relationship flips
The Blood Moon, so it's said
Will raise Ace from the dead
It's the Zombie Ewok Eclipse

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (m45I2)

78 Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (1UZdv)

I still want to get people to start referring to him as Weekly Standard Man.

Weekly Standard Man Huffs Gasoline, Demands Apology From Trump

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM (7PLM4)

79 I think another cob already banned the troll, because I can't see that post now.

>>>41 I'm not going out until there's a 3 wolf blood moon.


hey I just found my 3 wolf moon t-shirt. thanks for the tip. I'll wear that tonight.

Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM (PbpT7)

80 >>>Why is ace working on a Sunday. Did one of the cobs quit? get fired? die???

it seems like I should post about this today instead of tomorrow

Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM (PbpT7)

81 hey I just found my 3 wolf moon t-shirt. thanks for the tip. I'll wear that tonight.

Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM (PbpT7)
Pics would be nice. No pants plan?

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:16 PM (14URa)

82 But..but....I'm here for the food thread."

The Chinese thread is below.

Wait about one half hour...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:16 PM (6qErC)

83 Hiya Pinkster !

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:16 PM (4kWLV)

84
I saw Zombie Ewok Eclipse open for GWAR at the Cow Palace back in '08.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 04:16 PM (eXA4G)

85 ...It's the Zombie Ewok Eclipse
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (m45I2)


Cut it out. You're scaring me.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 04:16 PM (T71PA)

86
it seems like I should post about this today instead of tomorrow

Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM


I'd rather read Jonah's take on your take.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 04:16 PM (jYje5)

87 Kristol castigated the Covington High MAGA boys. and then went off that if they had been wearing McCain hats, Saint John would have called the Old Indian to apologize. "Will Trump?"
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (1UZdv)

Even if the story weren't fake news (and one would think people, especially on the right, would be skeptical of any and everything the media and the left - BIRM- put out), why should he apologize for other people's actions. Are the boys his employees? Has he ever even met them before?

Kristol is a clown.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (9hauA)

88 @83

Hey! How are ya?!

Posted by: TickledPink at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (VpnSm)

89 Saw a Harvest Moon once.

Thought I was looking at a building on fire till I figured it out.

Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (LPnfS)

90 Serious question: If the eclipse is caused by the sun casting a shadow, why does it happen at night?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (m45I2)

91 56 Peaches

My pleasure, dear lady!

Looks like it worked.

Posted by: ibguy at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (vUcdz)

92 hey I just found my 3 wolf moon t-shirt. thanks for the tip. I'll wear that tonight.
Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM (PbpT7)


Bespoke Ace!

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (T71PA)

93 80 not touching that

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (/rm4P)

94 90
Serious question: If the eclipse is caused by the sun casting a shadow, why does it happen at night?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (m45I2)
It only happens when the Chicoms are hogging the sun from us.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (14URa)

95 76 Lex Luthor Kotex Mountain Lion Sun is Super Blood Wolf Moon's Arch-Enemy.
Posted by: Naturalfake at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (CRRq9)

The team up issue is a collector's item these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (ycWCI)

96 87
Kristol castigated the Covington High MAGA boys. and then went off that
if they had been wearing McCain hats, Saint John would have called the
Old Indian to apologize. "Will Trump?"


What about if they'd been wearing Weekly Standard hats? Oh wait, nobody ever did that.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (T6t7i)

97 @83

Hey! How are ya?!
Posted by: TickledPink

Ok. You ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (4kWLV)

98 Lovable Little Fuzzball- a limerick

Here's some astronomy moon-viewing tips
For when the earth-sun relationship flips
The Blood Moon, so it's said
Will raise Ace from the dead
It's the Zombie Ewok Eclipse
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 04:14 PM (m45I2)

LOL. I hope you are collecting these for your next book.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (9hauA)

99 Grandson is spending the night this evening explicitly for the purpose of watching this. He is gonna go to bed and get a bit of sleep before I get him up to watch. We are gonna have a clear sky. If you have cloud cover, may I recommend "dateandtime.com". They will liveblog it. Good site with a lot of nice features.


Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (RfzVr)

100 It only happens when the Chicoms are hogging the sun from us.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:18 PM (14URa)

I thought that was the Jooos? Are they outsourcing?

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (7PLM4)

101 Saw a Harvest Moon once.

Thought I was looking at a building on fire till I figured it out.
Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic

So....how was the baking ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (4kWLV)

102 ArOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Posted by: joncelli of the Howling Horde at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (1FhAQ)

103
Re the Covington kids. I'll tell you what's appalling: the school and diocese have sided with the lefties. Go to the website and prepare to vomit.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (W04rT)

104 Ace posting on Sunday? His photograph above the fold on the current post of The Other McCain?

Correlation or Causation?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM



Just saw that. Stacy McCain is an Ace fanboy. Cool.

https://theothermccain.com/2019/01/19/
jonah-goldberg-only-steals-from-the-best/

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (786Ro)

105 In response to the vicious, racist attack by pro-life Catholic school students on Feather, Not Dot Indians Native Americans First People percussion enthusiasts.

Rep. John Yarmuth
@RepJohnYarmuth
I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be poisoning young minds. [1/2]

Rep. John Yarmuth
@RepJohnYarmuth
Replying to @RepJohnYarmuth
The conduct we saw in this video is beyond appalling, but it didn't happen in a vacuum. This is a direct result of the racist hatred displayed daily by the President of the United States who, sadly, some mistake for a role model. [2/2]

-
Seems to be a measured, well reasoned, common sense hat control measure.

P.S. And totally not related at all. Before he ascended to the House, Rep. Yarmuth a newspaper editor.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (+y/Ru)

106 10 I can watch it on the internet tomorrow. And, yes, I denounce myself.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (14URa)

I do feel this way, too. And I feel guilty about that.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (eJj1Q)

107 I thought that was the Jooos? Are they outsourcing?
Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (7PLM4)

Not the Chinese, the Jews are too cagey to release their weather/astronomical technology to the Chinese.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (ycWCI)

108 @97

Doing good. I did a photo shoot yesterday, and the pictures are gorgeous, so I'm a bit over the moon.

There are some pics of course that I am cringing hard at, but more good than bad, which is always a good thing.

Posted by: TickledPink at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (VpnSm)

109 Blood for the Blood Moon!

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (NWiLs)

110 ArOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
-----
Werewolves of London.

Posted by: zombie Warren Zevon at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (Hx3Yn)

111 Nice to see the Aints winning this game I don't GAS about. Because, frankly, any team that would give that evil thug Suh a job and a paycheck deserves to be beaten senseless.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (14URa)

112 Nice and clear here today. Should have a great view of the eclipse.

This morning was gloriously clear when I let the cat out. Venus blazing, 2nd morning star, blazing, and Scorpius rising.

Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:21 PM (LPnfS)

113 Re the Covington kids. I'll tell you what's appalling: the school and diocese have sided with the lefties. Go to the website and prepare to vomit.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (W04rT)

Courage is severely lacking today. SJWs make up a small sliver of the population, yet any time they screech, people just fold.

It's disgusting.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:21 PM (9hauA)

114 102 ArOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by: joncelli of the Howling Horde



https://youtu.be/iDpYBT0XyvA

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 20, 2019 04:21 PM (y/xP2)

115 Moon does not disappear in total eclipse.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (ZfRYq)

116 25 And I opened the seventh seal and a voice said the moon shall be red as blood and Ace will post on a Sunday.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:05 PM (gC2IV)

I hope Ace sees this.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (eJj1Q)

117 Werewolves of London.

Posted by: zombie Warren Zevon
----
Didn't I see you at Trader Vic's?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (9rIkM)

118 This morning was gloriously clear when I let the cat out. Venus blazing, 2nd morning star, blazing, and Scorpius rising.
Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:21 PM (LPnfS)

John Crichton better have Moya starburst.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (ycWCI)

119 Rep. John Yarmuth

@RepJohnYarmuth

I am calling for a total and complete shutdown of teenagers wearing
MAGA hats until we can figure out what is going on. They seem to be
poisoning young minds. [1/2]


And I'm calling for you to shut your mouth, because you're an imbecile.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (T6t7i)

120 Do we really need more than one kind of moon?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (UGqF8)

121 For those of you missing CBD, here is what he would be saying if he was here:



Anyone advocating the use of maple syrup on French Toast will be dealt with severely, up to and including being nuked from orbit.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (IcJtd)

122 Moon does not disappear in total eclipse.
Posted by: blaster

Does it step out for a pizza ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (4kWLV)

123 I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's. His hair was perfect.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (S+f+m)

124
ArOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Cathy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (aKsyK)

125 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (+y/Ru)

Those tweets, especially the first, are a joke, right?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (9hauA)

126 That's no moon.

Posted by: Dopey Juan Anchovy at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (UGqF8)

127 And I'm calling for you to shut your mouth, because you're an imbecile.
Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (T6t7i)

Wait. That's real? I assumed it was parody.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (ycWCI)

128 Apparently Texas will be clear skies tonight

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (ZfRYq)

129 I swear on all that is holy, if I don't see a food thread soon, I'm gonna have to make some carrot chili.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (14URa)

130 Trump's MO comes out of advanced real estate development.

He buys options. Some he exercises, some he doesn't.

And he works out decision trees. In the military you'd call this war gaming.

You can see this in how he's working the Shutdown/

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (1UZdv)

131 This morning was gloriously clear when I let the cat out. Venus blazing, 2nd morning star, blazing, and Scorpius rising.
Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic .

And THEN you started baking ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (4kWLV)

132 >>Those tweets, especially the first, are a joke, right?

No.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (/tuJf)

133
Those tweets, especially the first, are a joke, right?
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:23 PM (9hauA)

I doubt it. Of course, they've already 'figured out' what's going on: Orange Man Bad and Racist.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (7PLM4)

134 Nope that Yarmouth crap is real. All lefties are near nazis

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (Y+V3r)

135 We can send a man to the surface of the sun when it's not so hot, like at night!

Posted by: Occassional Cortex at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (KCGwI)

136 I saw Super Blood Wolf open for Gloryhammer at the Badlands Bar in '09.

Here's Judy Dench reciting Tennyson in the movie Skyfall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1MWDWc6tUM

Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (rnAwa)

137 So how many times does it have to be said here. If there is a troll, DON'T QUOTE THE TROLL!!!

Jeebus, I would think you know better but apparently not. All you do is save the post when it should be banned an gone.

Posted by: HH at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (mIJBI)

138 Didn't I see you at Trader Vic's?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:22 PM (9rIkM)
-----
No, but a little old lady got mutilated late last night.

Posted by: zombie Warren Zevon at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (Hx3Yn)

139 What a stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (ycWCI)

140 If you have misbehaving children, tonight is a good night to Re-Impose Your Parental Authority by taking them into the back yard and telling them you will Destroy the Moon unless they clean their Legos off the floor.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 04:25 PM (IcJtd)

141 >>>Courage is severely lacking today. SJWs make up a small sliver of the population, yet any time they screech, people just fold.

It's disgusting.

...

the NeverTrumpers jumped on the ShameTrain and baseball crank is even now saying "They should have known they were asking for trouble, wearing MAGA hats in DC, as is their right as Americans."

Or words to that effect:

https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1087086518055944192

"Look at the way she was dressed, she was asking for it."

Anyone think Baseball Crank would be saying "Of course she got her hijab snatched off, she should have known wearing it in public would invite hostility."

They literally hate conservatives and take every opportunity they have to attack them or justify deplatformings or even actual assaults on them.

But they're the Real Conservatives. They love conservatISM (allegedly), they just hate actual conservatives, and want them attacked and deplatformed and shamed or beaten out of the public square.

Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:25 PM (PbpT7)

142 Moon gets very dark red in eclipse. Earths atmosphere thin as it is refracts a lot light onto the Moon even when fully in shadow.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 04:25 PM (ZfRYq)

143 Meh. Not a Super Crescent Man-in-the-Moon.

Posted by: Procter and Woke and Gamble at January 20, 2019 04:25 PM (786Ro)

144 That will be timely. Things to do tonight.

Posted by: Sen. Chuck Shumer at January 20, 2019 04:25 PM (QE8X6)

145 Rams making a comeback.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 04:26 PM (dUJdY)

146 Is it a super blood that's wolfy or a blood wolf that's super?

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 20, 2019 04:27 PM (z2W2E)

147
So how many times does it have to be said here. If there is a troll, DON'T QUOTE THE TROLL!!!

Jeebus, I would think you know better but apparently not. All you do is save the post when it should be banned an gone.

Posted by: HH at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM


If nothing else [redact] the evil portion of the comment. Someone wants to dox some teenage kid by mentioning his name over and over... why in the hell would you cut and paste that?

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 04:27 PM (jYje5)

148 BTW, it's always enlightening to read the replies to NeverTrump posts and see who their fans and readers are. Half of BaseballCrank's readers/fans are saying "It's good that MAGA hat wearers are being attacked in public."

So that's their new clientele.

But don't worry, even though their emotional attachment is to the left, and their readership is increasingly leftwing, they will remain conservatives forever. As you know, they're very courageous and loyal people.

Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:27 PM (PbpT7)

149 blood wolf that's super?"

Super unleaded?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:27 PM (6qErC)

150 I thought a blood moon was like that scene in Braveheart....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:28 PM (Ct55T)

151 So....how was the baking ?
Posted by: JT


Harvati Dill melts perfectly in the Tomato Soup, but next time we're going to try chicken broth instead of veggie broth. Peeling tomatoes is time consuming.

Irish Soda bread tonight after yard work. Buttermilk, no raisins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=XJ54nF4rRh8

Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:28 PM (LPnfS)

152 How does he expect to enforce his proposed shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats? By rounding them up? Will there be a MAGA hat age, the same way there's a drinking age? Are there any other items of clothing or insignia he wants to prohibit?

Imbecile doesn't begin to cover it.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:28 PM (9hauA)

153 So, I am looking on amazon to see if Bertoli still makes their Three cheese Rotini with Bacon meals. 'Bertoli Three cheese rotini' gets nothing, so I reduce the search to 'Bertoli'.

And I get what looks like gay crime fiction? What the actual fuck?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (ycWCI)

154 I see that Intellicast now redirects to Weather Underground (which, itself, was bought out by The Weather Channel years ago) so now I'll, once again, be pummeled with CAGW crap when all I want is current information about the weather. Lame.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (DTX3h)

155 the school and diocese have sided with the lefties.

-
Maybe they'll be eaten last.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (+y/Ru)

156 All of this moon hysteria is pure fake news garbage. None of these terms are real "scientific" terms -- there just jazzy-sounding buzzwords recently coined to manufacture clickbait headlines. There is no such thing as a "Super Moon" or a "Blood Moon" or a "Wolf Moon." There's just an eclipse (commonplace occurrence) happening at perigee (routine standard occurrence) occurring at some random date on the meaningless western calendar (irrelevant). It is neither rare nor significant in any way.

It amazes me how everyone (mostly millennials) falls for this clickbait idiocy.

Posted by: zombie at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (c+2jX)

157 152 How does he expect to enforce his proposed shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats? By rounding them up? Will there be a MAGA hat age, the same way there's a drinking age? Are there any other items of clothing or insignia he wants to prohibit?

---------

It'll be completely voluntary. A MAGA hat buyback. Turn in a MAGA hat, get a cracker.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (UGqF8)

158 Kristol castigated the Covington High MAGA boys. and then went off that if they had been wearing McCain hats, Saint John would have called the Old Indian to apologize. "Will Trump?"
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (1UZdv)

I'd only wear a McCain hat if it was John 5x NVA Ace McCain. Or maybe Heart Attack/ Palin 2008.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (gDSJf)

159 Harvati Dill melts perfectly in the Tomato Soup, but next time we're going to try chicken broth instead of veggie broth. Peeling tomatoes is time consuming.

Irish Soda bread tonight after yard work. Buttermilk, no raisins.


Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (4kWLV)

160 And I get what looks like gay crime fiction? What the actual fuck?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (ycWCI)

lol!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (dUJdY)

161 Imbecile doesn't begin to cover it.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:28 PM (9hauA)

Well, there is no IQ test to get into congress. Good thing to for most of these pieces of luggage.

Also 'Waiting periods for MAGA Swag' and 'Common sense hat control.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (ycWCI)

162 And I get what looks like gay crime fiction? What the actual fuck?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (ycWCI)

We're sorry we couldn't find what you were looking for. Could we interest you in some anal sex instead?

Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (7PLM4)

163
I see that Intellicast now redirects to Weather Underground (which,
itself, was bought out by The Weather Channel years ago) so now I'll,
once again, be pummeled with CAGW crap when all I want is current
information about the weather. Lame.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik
----
Try www.freeweather.com or www.darksky.net instead.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (9rIkM)

164 The Orange Man Bad But We're Conservative crowd are the most fucked up people on earth. Used to be in the old days you'd have these kind of people committed for being a danger to the public.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (+dsLj)

165 I don't eat meat but I sure like the bone.

Posted by: Mary 'Super Blood Wolf' Moon at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (KCGwI)

166 How does he expect to enforce his proposed shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats"

A MAGA hat buyback?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (6qErC)

167 Irish Soda bread tonight after yard work. Buttermilk, no raisins.


Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:28 PM (LPnfS)
My mom always made it with currants. It was lovely.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (14URa)

168 And THEN you started baking ?
Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (4kWLV)


5:50 a.m. ????

helzapoppin, no!

Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:32 PM (LPnfS)

169 It'll be completely voluntary. A MAGA hat buyback. Turn in a MAGA hat, get a cracker.
Posted by: Cicero

A Ritz or a white person ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:32 PM (4kWLV)

170 If you have misbehaving children, tonight is a good night to Re-Impose Your Parental Authority by taking them into the back yard and telling them you will Destroy the Moon unless they clean their Legos off the floor.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 20, 2019 04:32 PM (T71PA)

171 I betcha we could convince millennial dicks that the "dunce cap" is actually the awesome new trend for Woke Youths (i.e. thirtysomethings) to counter the MAGA Trump Hat in a socially conscious manner.

Get on this shit, channers.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:32 PM (Ct55T)

172 And THEN you started baking ?
Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:24 PM (4kWLV)

5:50 a.m. ????

helzapoppin, no!
Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic .

Ok, Ok

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:32 PM (4kWLV)

173 Also 'Waiting periods for MAGA Swag' and 'Common sense hat control.'

He'll need a snappy slogan. Something like "say no to a chapeau".

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:32 PM (T6t7i)

174 I put fresh dill in tomato soup occasionally

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (/rm4P)

175 166 How does he expect to enforce his proposed shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats"

A MAGA hat buyback?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (6qErC)

For every MAGA hat you turn in you get a free Glock.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (Ct55T)

176 We made philly cheese steaks on the outside griddle for lunch. That may be my meal for today.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (kufk0)

177 174 I put fresh dill in tomato soup occasionally
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (/rm4P)

Euphemism?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (NWiLs)

178 12-year-old boys gang-rape girl in Delaware:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ article-6610103/Four-boys-ranging-age-12-14-charged-kidnapping -raping-girl-Delaware.html

Absolute soullessness at such a young age. Mind-boggling that a 12-year-old would even know what rape is, much less be eager to commit it.

And, as you all may remember (but perhaps blotted from your mind because it's too horrible to contemplate), according to 2019's new laws in California, these kids COULD NOT BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME in California, because they are under 16. Scot free. No charge. Not even a stern warning. Maybe some free therapy to process their feelings.

Posted by: zombie at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (c+2jX)

179 Try www.freeweather.com or www.darksky.net instead.


Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (9rIkM)
Oh, awesome, gonna check those out. Accu(not)weather is constantly freaking out that I have adblock.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (14URa)

180 152 How does he expect to enforce his proposed shutdown of teenagers wearing MAGA hats? By rounding them up? Will there be a MAGA hat age, the same way there's a drinking age? Are there any other items of clothing or insignia he wants to prohibit?

Imbecile doesn't begin to cover it.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:28 PM (9hauA)


Oi! You got a loicense for that MAGAR hat?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (DTX3h)

181 "If you have misbehaving children, tonight is a good night to Re-Impose Your Parental Authority by taking them into the back yard and telling them you will Destroy the Moon unless they clean their Legos off the floor."

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (UGqF8)

182 This is a crowd sourced Food Thread.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (T71PA)

183 A Ritz or a white person ?"

Triscuits.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (6qErC)

184 So, I guess we're just going to turn Super Blood Wolf moon into a food thread?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (kufk0)

185 forecast says "early clearing" ... so maybe I'll be able to see the bloody wolf thang. Single digit temps though ... so it better be dripping with blood AND howling.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (Cus5s)

186 162 And I get what looks like gay crime fiction? What the actual fuck?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (ycWCI)

We're sorry we couldn't find what you were looking for. Could we interest you in some anal sex instead?
Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (7PLM4)

Is it Tuesday already?

Posted by: Zoot at January 20, 2019 04:34 PM (Ct55T)

187 163 Try www.freeweather.com or www.darksky.net instead.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (9rIkM)


Will check them out. Thanks!

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 20, 2019 04:35 PM (DTX3h)

188 ''Triscuits''

I second that. With a nice slice of Muenster cheese on top.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:35 PM (jm1YL)

189
Don't view the eclipse directly or you'll damage your eyes!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (LsBY9)

190 You'll be allowed to have a MAGA hat as long as you can establish a legitimate need for one. Pretty much like getting a concealed weapons permit in CA.

See? No First Amendment infringement at all!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (UGqF8)

191 With a nice slice of Muenster cheese on top."

Herman?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (6qErC)

192 Crash of the Super Bad Wolf Moons

Posted by: Rocky Jones at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (aKsyK)

193 177 no, real dill from garden.
But even more likely fresh chives or basil

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (/rm4P)

194 188
''Triscuits''



I second that. With a nice slice of Muenster cheese on top.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:35 PM (jm1YL)
OMG, it's like you are in my head. Now I need another beer.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:37 PM (14URa)

195 My mom always made it with currants. It was lovely.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (14URa)


I love it with currants & a touch of orange peel.

The Irish Soda Bread quest started when I went to the tube of yew and found more variations of Irish Soda Bread then I ever knew existed.

And strongly opinionated defenders of each recipe ...
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:37 PM (LPnfS)

196 191 With a nice slice of Muenster cheese on top."

Herman?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (6qErC)

I'd take a bite outta Marilyn...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:37 PM (Ct55T)

197 Ok, looks like Bertolli still makes it, but it is only sold by Target(?) locally now. SOB.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:37 PM (ycWCI)

198
I'd like the troll to realize that their are programs that monitor IP addresses and can give just about anyone the IP address of someone posting on a blog. A few clicks and the internet provider is known. Another few clicks and the address of that series of IP addresses is known. Physical addresses only take a few seconds more.

Doxxing is a two way street.

Soros doesn't pay you enough money, dude. Grow up and get a real job. Leave the teenage boys alone.

I'm sure you've heard that before.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 04:37 PM (jYje5)

199 You should see what they're doing with parsley these days.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 04:38 PM (NWiLs)

200 53 Ace posting on Sunday? His photograph above the fold on the current post of The Other McCain?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (DMUuz)

Indeed! And much Ace-appreciation going on over there.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 04:38 PM (eJj1Q)

201 ''With a nice slice of Muenster cheese on top."

Herman?''

No. Orange rind Muenster, preferably the end piece in honor of or great president.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:39 PM (jm1YL)

202 >>>"It will be red and big, and then it will disappear in a total eclipse."


Yep.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 04:39 PM (ePWRo)

203 You should see what they're doing with parsley these days.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 04:38 PM (NWiLs)


Lol

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 04:39 PM (T71PA)

204 199 You should see what they're doing with parsley these days.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 04:38 PM (NWiLs)

Ah. A nice bouquet garnis inside some steamed snapper.

Go en papillote if you're feelin' kinky.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:39 PM (Ct55T)

205 200 53 Ace posting on Sunday? His photograph above the fold on the current post of The Other McCain?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (DMUuz)

Indeed! And much Ace-appreciation going on over there.
Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 04:38 PM (eJj1Q)

ace looks a bit crazed in the photo- like he's about ready to shank a fool.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:39 PM (ycWCI)

206 take a bite outta Marilyn..."

Lilly in the day...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:40 PM (6qErC)

207 In case you missed it this morning I have some pretty cool keychains and bookmarks for sale in my shop. Already had two morons buy them.. I think you will likey!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 04:40 PM (dUJdY)

208 Accu(not)weather is constantly freaking out that I have adblock.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM


Run the Accuweather url through

https://outline.com

and you'll be happy. No ads, stripped clean.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 04:40 PM (jYje5)

209 "It will be red and big, and then it will disappear in a total eclipse."

Mitsubishi?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 04:40 PM (6qErC)

210 I second that. With a nice slice of Muenster cheese on top.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:35 PM (jm1YL)
OMG, it's like you are in my head. Now I need another beer.
Posted by: Peaches

Are ya gonna pour half in your ear for him ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:41 PM (4kWLV)

211 Don't view the eclipse directly or you'll damage your eyes!

Posted by:Hadrian the Seventh
----
That's lunarcy!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:41 PM (9rIkM)

212 Recent discussions on free trade and mercantilism are off the mark, IMHO.

The current issue is that the US has done several things (or allowed them to happen) over the last few decades that have pushed jobs abroad, especially in manufacturing.

High US corporate tax rates is but one of many examples. So the recent cut from a 35% rack rate to 20% was a Jobs Bill, you see. (Only industrials paid rack rate, you see).

Classic economic theory assumes that we're each a selfish Nietzchean monad. But it's in my interest that a guy in Indiana has a job to pay into our Welfare State rather than being a meth head burden.

And we've enabled China to be a global trade leech in so many ways, at the expense of our own. In theory, and even more so in practice.

And no one used to talk about it. Except in elite rags to say that flyover Deplorables should just fuck off and die already.

Until Trump saw his political opening. Miles of undeveloped beach front property that had been left abandoned by smart politicians.



Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:42 PM (1UZdv)

213 But don't worry, even though their emotional attachment is to the left, and their readership is increasingly leftwing, they will remain conservatives forever. As you know, they're very courageous and loyal people.
Posted by: ace at January 20, 2019 04:27 PM (PbpT7)

I opposed Trump because I thought he was a leftist posing as a Republican. But he has been one of the most conservative presidents ever, so I'm happy.

I thought the Never Trumpers' opposition was for the same reason too, but clearly not. They really have gone off the deep end and are now embracing leftist behavior, something they accused Trump and his supporters of. And they are letting their intense hatred of Trump scramble their brains.

Look at this craziness from Jonah Goldberg:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/
status/1086471036416258048

Continuation of Mollie's response:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/ status/1086473244172013569

Is that a conservative approach?

And his lackadaisical attitude towards not crediting Ace was really low.

See also J Podhoretz's accusation that TWS was "murdered" by the owner. No taking of any responsibility for putting off their readers, no acknowledgement that under capitalism, failing enterprises shut down. Nope, they are entitled to others' money so they can write what they want but no one else is interested in.

Trump's election has been really eye opening.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:42 PM (9hauA)

214 211 Don't view the eclipse directly or you'll damage your eyes!

Posted by:Hadrian the Seventh
----
That's lunarcy!
Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:41 PM (9rIkM)

It's ok, i'm getting my neighbor to watch it and describe it in real time.

Safe as houses.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:42 PM (Ct55T)

215 Posted by: zombie at January 20, 2019 04:33 PM (c+2jX)

*follows link*

I can't think of anything to say about the perps that won't get me banned or visited by the police, so:

Speedy recovery for the girl.

Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 04:43 PM (7PLM4)

216 Are ya gonna pour half in your ear for him ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:41 PM (4kWLV)
I'm not the most religious person in the world but wasting beer is obviously a sin.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:43 PM (14URa)

217 But they're the Real Conservatives. They love conservatISM
(allegedly), they just hate actual conservatives, and want them attacked
and deplatformed and shamed or beaten out of the public square.


The VichyCon - Beltway Syndicate (like DrewM) are here to help us back to the Path of Enlightened Conservatism.

Ahoy!



Posted by: mikeyG at January 20, 2019 04:43 PM (LL1Be)

218 179
Try www.freeweather.com or www.darksky.net instead.




Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 04:31 PM (9rIkM)

You can still get the local Intellicast links by paging down on the WU page for your area. At least for now.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 04:44 PM (mpXpK)

219 I would show little kids Despicable Me right before bed time. Then wake them up during the eclipse and tell them that Gru really did steal the moon. That'll warp 'em for life.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 04:44 PM (+0faA)

220 Ok. Who had French toast with maple syrup this morning?

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:44 PM (jm1YL)

221
89
Saw a Harvest Moon once.




Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen
Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (LPnfS)




I saw these guys play this tune live
years before they published it.



Awesome.



http://tinyurl.com/y7v7dnwg



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (8iiMU)

222 So, Ace - what are your thoughts about cooking? Got any recipes for us? Care to share your views on maple syrup?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (Qjgq3)

223 Hawkmoon 269

https://youtu.be/kMElTsuDhRM

Reminds me of the days when I still liked U2 and Bono

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (786Ro)

224 Okay, I don't want to be the first person to freak out (ah, who am I kidding?) but is everything okay at Chez Dildo?

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (14URa)

225 Peaches, he's probably at the liquor store. Oh wait, it's Sunday. Probably napping.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:47 PM (Qjgq3)

226 Something is about to change:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya6kqgul

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 04:47 PM (ePWRo)

227 Jewells, I mailed a payment. Hasn't cleared the bank yet. did you get it?

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 04:47 PM (9L2du)

228 ''So, Ace - what are your thoughts about cooking? Got any recipes for us? Care to share your views on maple syrup? ''

Indeed. Last great meal? Last great restaurant you patronized? Anything.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:47 PM (jm1YL)

229 Safe as houses.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:42 PM (Ct55T)


As long as you remember who's wearing the trousers!

Posted by: Adriane the Hurricane Screen Writer's Guild Critic ... at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (LPnfS)

230 I don't know about the food thread, but Weasel had better damn well show up to let us know how that case turned out.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (gC2IV)

231 Classic economic theory assumes that we're each a selfish Nietzchean
monad. But it's in my interest that a guy in Indiana has a job to pay
into our Welfare State rather than being a meth head burden.


This is such a really, really simple, yet excellent point.

The Wall fight is an economic battle.

Posted by: mikeyG at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (LL1Be)

232 Should be interesting to photograph

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (l9m7l)

233 Okay, I don't want to be the first person to freak out (ah, who am I kidding?) but is everything okay at Chez Dildo?
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (14URa)

---------------

I'm sure he's fine. He prolly just doesn't wanna stomp the Boss.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (ffYR/)

234 Jonah Soyberg is really trying hard lately to out-Kristol Kristol.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (+dsLj)

235 A serious question:

What, if anything, do the NeverTrumpers still object to? These so-called "True Conservatives".

What conservative policy prescription do they suggest that is better than what Trump is doing, is claiming to be doing, or claims he will do in the future?

What facet of Trump's administration do they claim is "not conservative"?

I really don't think i've seen anything from the NT's since the beginning other than:

- Ad hominem horseshit
- Rote repetition of confirmed leftist lies
- Hollow virtue signaling
- Deliberate misrepresentation of Trump's administration

So it really must be true that their opposition to Trump is that he's "not one of us, you see".

I understand the trepidation at first, is he a shill? Is he lying? Is he a stalking horse for the globalists?

But now? Come on, people. You're in a full blown cranio-rectal inversion at this point, and it's nothing more than sour grapes and clickbait.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (Ct55T)

236 Indeed. Last great meal? Last great restaurant you patronized? Anything.
Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:47 PM (jm1YL)
------------

Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (Qjgq3)

237 Leftist projection: the anti-bullies are bullying actual high school boys.

How about the whole world doesn't have to comment or react to every single thing you see on the internet, especially if it's a random person? How about making yourself useful by actually doing something productive?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (9hauA)

238 Why mislead? Despite new information, CNN is still going with this headline for Covington Catholic story

-
The first amendment means CNN can lie and you can't speak at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (+y/Ru)

239 Peaches, he's probably at the liquor store. Oh wait, it's Sunday. Probably napping.
Posted by: bluebell

CBD did a coupla posts today.

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:50 PM (4kWLV)

240 The way the left has been ululating since Orange Man, one would think every day and night is a super, wolf, blood moon.....

Posted by: Lupus at January 20, 2019 04:50 PM (UHDYi)

241 Wait a minute, isn't Walter Freeman the Half-Life guy? Is there anything else he should be telling us?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 20, 2019 04:50 PM (l9m7l)

242 It must be a sign! Ace is posting on a Sunday!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 04:50 PM (Evws/)

243 Infidel.. sorry sweetie can you tell me what you ordered? My brain...

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 04:50 PM (dUJdY)

244 How about raging about the crap you see online *in person * to your friends and family and then moving on, instead of dumping all your thoughts on the internet?

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:50 PM (9hauA)

245 Every storm gets a name. Every moon gets a name.

Bad Moon Orange. And everything's his fault.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (+fPHo)

246 I don't know about the food thread, but Weasel had better damn well show up to let us know how that case turned out.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (gC2IV)
------------

If he doesn't I will drive over to his house and hold him at shiv-point until he hits "post."

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (Qjgq3)

247 236
Indeed. Last great meal? Last great restaurant you patronized? Anything.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 04:47 PM (jm1YL)

Water Grill, Ocean Ave., Santa Monica. Get the scallops. And their Bloody Marys are awesome. I have accepted that I will probably never have a fabulous meal again as long as I live.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (14URa)

248 Nutcracker bracelets.

I've been praying for you during this hard time!

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (9L2du)

249 Loping horses around the track under a full moon in the summer is as good as it gets.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (+0faA)

250 Never Trumpism is simple. If someone not of the political class can succeed where they have failed for decades, then what is the point of them?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (gC2IV)

251 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?

-
For a last meal? I guess it'd make the execution seem not so bad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (+y/Ru)

252 This did happen a few weeks ago, pushed the food thread back a hour.
I blame the book threads late start

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:52 PM (/rm4P)

253 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?

They're ok, not my fave, but I wouldn't throw 'em under the table.

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:52 PM (4kWLV)

254 For those of us that will be clouded out, or too damn lazy to stand out in the freaking cold-

https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/webtv/

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 04:52 PM (wNN8A)

255 223 Hawkmoon 269

https://youtu.be/kMElTsuDhRM

Reminds me of the days when I still liked U2 and Bono
Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (786Ro)

Bono and The Edge walked into a bar, and the bartender said, "Oh god, not U2 again."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:53 PM (Ct55T)

256 Lunar ace is best ace.


Actually, lunar weekend ace is best ace.


Next to angry ace.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 04:53 PM (QDnY+)

257 It must be a sign! Ace is posting on a Sunday!?

-
And it's about a bad moon rising.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:53 PM (+y/Ru)

258 I blame the book threads late start
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:52 PM (/rm4P)
-----------

Much more fun to blame CBD. And more accurate. Oregon Muse isn't responsible for CBD oversleeping.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:54 PM (Qjgq3)

259 Make mine a Super Bloody, please.

Posted by: Hillary! at January 20, 2019 04:54 PM (5h/3t)

260 Brussels sprouts are proof that God loves mankind.

Why such a perfect vegetable got named after such a festering open sore cesspit of a city i'll never know...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 04:54 PM (Ct55T)

261 I vote yes on Brussels sprouts. Grilled with olive oil, bacon, and garlic

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 04:54 PM (IcJtd)

262 I don't know about the food thread, but Weasel had better damn well show up to let us know how that case turned out.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (gC2IV)
------------

If he doesn't I will drive over to his house and hold him at shiv-point until he hits "post."
Posted by: bluebell

He's on the Staten Island Ferry.

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (4kWLV)

263 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?
Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM


Satan's dingleberries.

This is known.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (DMUuz)

264 Blood Moon ace is insomnia ace and we won't see him until Tuesday.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (+0faA)

265 Loping horses around the track under a full moon in the summer is as good as it gets.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (+0faA)



I'd like to learn how to lope a horse. Is it like needlepoint?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (UGqF8)

266 I love love love Brussels sprouts. And I mostly hate vegetables. And fruit. They do, of course, need plenty of butter.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (14URa)

267 I always knew my twin brother had good taste.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (Qjgq3)

268 261
I vote yes on Brussels sprouts. Grilled with olive oil, bacon, and garlic

Posted by: Muad'dib


Perfect. Last step is to drop them into a volcano.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (T6t7i)

269 And it's about a bad moon rising.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 04:53 PM (+y/Ru)

... There's a bathroom on the right!

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (wNN8A)

270 Never Trumpism is simple. If someone not of the political class can succeed where they have failed for decades, then what is the point of them?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:51 PM (gC2IV)

Yep. I can't think of any other explanation.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (9hauA)

271 This unique total lunar eclipse will begin on January 20 at 10:35 p.m. ET and end at 1:51 a.m. ET on January 21.

Those lucky people in Australia will get to see it in the daytime.

Posted by: Agnatologia Ocasio-Cortex at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (bm2af)

272 post again 'round midnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzeUjbY5ZlE

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (ePWRo)

273 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?
Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM



[ X ] Brussels sprouts
[ ] no Brussels sprouts

I get teased for liking those little cabbage minions, but I really like them.

Roasted is the tastiest way to cook them, imho

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (786Ro)

274 Satan's dingleberries.



This is known.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (DMUuz)
I almost fell off my chair, cannot stop laughing!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (14URa)

275 Brussels sprouts are good for composting

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (/rm4P)

276 Never,ever believe the leftist media ,make sure you have all the facts.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (BXMxN)

277 but Weasel had better damn well show up to let us know how that case turned out.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (gC2IV)

I missed it. What case is that?
------------

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 04:57 PM (AllCR)

278 Blood Eagle >> Blood Moon

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 04:57 PM (U96rM)

279 This will last until around 12:40 a.m., when the motion of the Earth's shadow will carry it past the moon
----
I apparently don't know much about science, as I think it's probably the moon moving in its orbit that's relevant here.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (kOpft)

280 Blood > Blood Moon

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi's cosmetic surgeon at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (786Ro)

281 Cicero, it's like learning to dance. Don't get tense and go with the flow.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (+0faA)

282 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM


Screw Brussels.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (U96rM)

283 Brussels sprouts are good for composting
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (/rm4P)


Buy them and throw them directly onto the heap. Eliminate the middleman.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (UGqF8)

284 Howling time!
https://tinyurl.com/ya7uoxo2
[10 seconds]

Posted by: antonia neshev at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (Evws/)

285 Super Blood Wolf Moon was the name of that old dude blowing his halitosis on the nice kid with the MAGA hat.

Posted by: mikeyG at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (LL1Be)

286 Extensive food on a rare astronomical post. What's next, shoes?

This thread will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Adm. Painter at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (DMUuz)

287 Fen, he was recently on jury duty and posted a cliff hanger in the gun thread last Sunday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:59 PM (gC2IV)

288 I missed it. What case is that?
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I'm sure Weasel will go over it on tonight's Gunga la Gunga.

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 04:59 PM (4kWLV)

289 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?
Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM

Satan's dingleberries.

This is known.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (DMUuz

LOL. I love most veggies, including Brussels sprouts. I generally don't eat salads, though. I mean, I've had some good ones but I generally consider them rabbit food.

*Runs away*

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:59 PM (9hauA)

290 Cicero, it's like learning to dance. Don't get tense and go with the flow.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (+0faA)



Well dancing then, I'm definitely the right guy for that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 04:59 PM (UGqF8)

291 Yep. I can't think of any other explanation.
Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (9hauA)

It's the anger of the busted fraud and the exposed liar. They hate him for showing them to be unnecessary at best and malignant at worst.

Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 04:59 PM (7PLM4)

292 I vote yes on Brussels sprouts. Grilled with olive oil, bacon, and garlic
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 04:54 PM (IcJtd)


Quartered, tossed with black pepper and grated Gruyere, and under a broiler until the edges start to blacken but yeah, that way works just fine too.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (t+qrx)

293 What's a good cocktail for the Super Blood Wolf Moon?

Bloody Marys, of course, but what else?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (kQs4Y)

294 This thread will get out of control. It will get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Adm. Painter at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (DMUuz)

It's not out of control yet.
No one has mentioned boobehs yet.


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (8iiMU)

295 Screw Brussels.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM (U96rM)


*Sigh* I didn't even get the chance.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (UGqF8)

296 If America itself doesn't itself embrace a common set of "Universal
Values" Neoconservatism is supposed to be spreading to the world, what
values are we spreading?


This kind of eyes wide open thinking is what terrifies the Nevertrump CuckCons.

Sidebar ace is the best ace.

Posted by: mikeyG at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (LL1Be)

297 If the incident is Fake Newz, then why/how can the diocese and mayor et al continue to dump on the kids?


Refuse to look at this directly (sort of like a solar eclipse). But in my peripheral internet vision I've seen retractions and reverse apologies to the kids for being maligned unfairly.


If true, why/how can the KY adults continue to act as if this was not a lynching?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (QDnY+)

298 Cicero, it's like learning to dance. Don't get tense and go with the flow.
Posted by: Ben Had

Do you wear your WAC skirt ?

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (4kWLV)

299 Well dancing then, I'm definitely the right guy for that.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 04:59 PM (UGqF
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You and JackStraw can lead us. Did you go to cotillion like he did?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (Qjgq3)

300 OT-I did my howling at the moon by complaining about Sandy Ocasio-Cortez being "on the march"- which is how the "NY Post" described her- with the IMO, anti Semetic Woman's March. We'll see if they publish my letter.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (AllCR)

301 Brussels sprouts? Yes? No?

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM

Maybe seasoned and served with something else. By themselves they just taste like dirt.

Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (7PLM4)

302 What's a good cocktail for the Super Blood Wolf Moon?


Wisky neat.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (0OmEj)

303 293 What's a good cocktail for the Super Blood Wolf Moon?

Bloody Marys, of course, but what else?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (kQs4Y)

Peach flavored moonshine.

Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (nw6G5)

304 If something is good only when topped with bacon, just eat the bacon!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (kQs4Y)

305 The Blood Moon marks the one-quarter point in Trump Acendancy, which occurs during the 3rd Triad of the Reconciliation of the McKetrick supplicants.



Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (VigyG)

306 I have watch 1984 (Youtube) Big Brother's picture is shown between fake news stories. Writing that story today, would show CNN all the time on the one channel you can only get. Big Brother would be a picture of Schumer and Nancy standing together, and then showing a picture of Trump and all the people yelling kill, kill, hate, kill.

Posted by: Colin at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (1ypE7)

307
Screw Brussels.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 04:58 PM


It's a terrific winter vacation destination for children and grandchildren. Then onto the pyramids. Followed by a Tweet expressing solidarity with 800,000 unpaid Americans and a condemnation of OrangeMan Bad.

Because I care.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi Galore at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (jYje5)

308 Peach flavored moonshine.
Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (nw6G5)
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Oh yeah!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (kQs4Y)

309 You and JackStraw can lead us. Did you go to cotillion like he did?
Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (Qjgq3)



Yep. And I still have the elbow-length white gloves to prove it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (UGqF8)

310 I vote yes on Brussels sprouts. Grilled with olive oil, bacon, and garlic
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 04:54 PM (IcJtd)

Quartered, tossed with black pepper and grated Gruyere, and under a broiler until the edges start to blacken but yeah, that way works just fine too


But imagine how much better all that would taste without the brussel sprouts!

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (JgLEu)

311 but Weasel had better damn well show up to let us know how that case turned out.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (gC2IV)

I missed it. What case is that?
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 04:57 PM (AllCR)

I seem to remember a cat, a dog, an onion, cabbages, pickled cucumbers, some good-time ladies of the night, and a length of clothesline.

Posted by: Andy Reid at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (wNN8A)

312 Sprouts peeled down to a core, halve the cores, sautee in butter and black pepper with potatoes and onion in a cast iron skillet until GBD. Fill with scrambled eggs and any kind of cheese (i like swiss). Bake in oven until browned on top.

(top with olive oil, breadcrumbs and parmesan before baking for bonus crust)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (Ct55T)

313 Tater tots > Brussels sprouts


#PediatricCuisine


Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (m45I2)

314 >Bloody Marys, of course, but what else?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:00 PM (



Red wine. Cabernet is on the menu this evening.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (IcJtd)

315 LOL. I love most veggies, including Brussels sprouts. I generally don't eat salads, though. I mean, I've had some good ones but I generally consider them rabbit food.

*Runs away*
Posted by: chique d'afrique

Chased by a herd of rabbitts

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (4kWLV)

316 When the Ewok bays at the moon, the inaugural hobo hunt begins!

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (wxZSX)

317 Maybe I have some Wolfschmidt vodka...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (kQs4Y)

318 274 Satan's dingleberries.



This is known.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (DMUuz)
I almost fell off my chair, cannot stop laughing!
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM (14URa)

Duncanthrax, you are my Jonah Goldberg.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (NWiLs)

319 JT, I wear my Wranglers and Texas two step.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (+0faA)

320 Yep. And I still have the elbow-length white gloves to prove it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (UGqF
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Beautiful. He can lead and you can follow. Don't let him get fresh with you though.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (Qjgq3)

321 What, if anything, do the NeverTrumpers still object to? These so-called "True Conservatives".

Posted by: Warai-otoko


I don't see anything else either.

While it's near-ad hominem to suggest a mental illness, that's all I can see that would be powerful enough to prevent them from being so angry at Trump all the time.

I suppose some of them are deathly afraid of 'populism,' paranoid that fascism truely is a phenomena of the right. Some of the NeverTurnipers may have internalized the Left's perpetual accusations to the point where the, anti-Trumpers, now are the brave Troof Tellers stopping the Right from becoming ebil.

Which is just as sad and demented as the garden variety Wounded Narcissists in the Beltway Brigades.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 05:03 PM (ZejZP)

322 Baby Ruth > tater tots > Brussels sprouts

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:03 PM (m45I2)

323 Maybe I have some Wolfschmidt vodka...
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (kQs4Y)



I like a good stiff Blood of the Virgins for an event like this.

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary! 2016, Who Will Never Be POTUS at January 20, 2019 05:03 PM (UGqF8)

324 If something is good only when topped with bacon, just eat the bacon!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:01 PM (kQs4Y)


Corollary: if your first instinct when defending escargot involves "garlic butter" then just eat garlic butter and leave snails out of it.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (t+qrx)

325 Talisker single malt >>>Baby Ruth > tater tots > Brussels sprouts

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (T6t7i)

326
Floating Baby Ruth is never good in our Olympic swimming pool.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi Galore at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (jYje5)

327 You can't let Al Czervik into the Club.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (1UZdv)

328 Beautiful. He can lead and you can follow. Don't let him get fresh with you though.
Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (Qjgq3)


I know JackStraw will be a perfect gentleman.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (UGqF8)

329 >>Sprouts peeled down to a core, halve the cores, sautee in butter and black pepper with potatoes and onion in a cast iron skillet until GBD. Fill with scrambled eggs and any kind of cheese (i like swiss). Bake in oven until browned on top.

>>(top with olive oil, breadcrumbs and parmesan before baking for bonus crust)

So in other words try to cover up the taste of the Brussels sprouts with anything you can find and then they taste ok.

Not buying it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (/tuJf)

330 This unique total lunar eclipse will begin on January 20 at 10:35 p.m. ET and end at 1:51 a.m. ET on January 21.

Those lucky people in Australia will get to see it in the daytime.


Posted by: Agnatologia Ocasio-Cortex at January 20, 2019 04:56 PM


Typical.

Posted by: otho at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM (LkFnL)

331 Baby Ruth > tater tots > Brussels sprouts
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:03 PM (m45I2)


So that's a candy bar Brussels sprout casserole? Brilliant!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM (t+qrx)

332 Infidel.. sorry I was re-checking my conversations and found where you ordered the two Nutcracker bracelets. yes, I got the check and deposited it last week. It should have cleared by now though.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM (dUJdY)

333 *snap* I should've saved all those solar eclipse paper sunglasses and resold them as Wolf Blood Supermoon safety glasses.

Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM (786Ro)

334 Did anyone find my walkman? I left it on the plane. Its batteries must be getting low.

Posted by: Patty Murray at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM (VigyG)

335 JT, I wear my Wranglers and Texas two step.
Posted by: Ben Had

LOL, good for you !

Posted by: JT at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM (4kWLV)

336 So in other words try to cover up the taste of the Brussels sprouts with anything you can find and then they taste ok.

Not buying it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (/tuJf)


Sounds like the old Eggplant Parmesan trick.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (U96rM)

337 >>I know JackStraw will be a perfect gentleman.

Wait, what?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (/tuJf)

338 While it's near-ad hominem to suggest a mental illness,...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 05:03 PM (ZejZP)

Well, ad hominem technically isn't logical fallacy when the hominem actually *is* the problem in the first place.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (Ct55T)

339 CBD must be in a hot tub with a jug of zin and some fine Columbian(s).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (kQs4Y)

340 The Blood Moon marks the one-quarter point in Trump Ascendancy,
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When Pence will guide the planets and Trump will steer the stars!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (Evws/)

341 Absolute soullessness at such a young age. Mind-boggling that a 12-year-old would even know what rape is, much less be eager to commit it.

+++

Boys that age can't be trusted with a dog to be quite honest

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (z2W2E)

342 Ooops, ColOmbian(s).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (kQs4Y)

343 Lunar eclipses are for losers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (U96rM)

344 Jack, I finally found you a dance partner! He's even willing to let you lead.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (Qjgq3)

345 -2 and 45 mph winds are on the schedule, warming up to 9. My eyeballs might freeze if I glance up at the Super Blood Wolf Moon tonight.

I weep for Global Warming.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (DVPgb)

346 So in other words try to cover up the taste of the Brussels sprouts with anything you can find and then they taste ok.

Not buying it.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (/tuJf)

How do you know i'm not using the sprouts to cover up the taste of everything else?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:07 PM (Ct55T)

347 So in other words try to cover up the taste of the Brussels sprouts with anything you can find and then they taste ok.
Not buying it.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (/tuJf)

Sounds like the old Eggplant Parmesan trick.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (U96rM)


Or how french toast is a hot dumpster full of wet garbage and some people can only choke it down by drenching it in maple syrup.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:07 PM (t+qrx)

348 Irish babies > Baby Ruths > tater tots > Brussels Sprouts


/Jonathan Swift - A Modest Proposal

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 05:07 PM (m45I2)

349 312
Sprouts peeled down to a core, halve the cores, sautee in butter and
black pepper with potatoes and onion in a cast iron skillet until GBD.
Fill with scrambled eggs and any kind of cheese (i like swiss). Bake in
oven until browned on top.



(top with olive oil, breadcrumbs and parmesan before baking for bonus crust)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:02 PM (Ct55
Sounds like an awful lot of trouble for freakin' brussels sprouts. I mean, I like them and all, but I don't want to marry them and make a whole life to go with it.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 05:08 PM (14URa)

350 All right, I've been patiently waiting for the food thread, but will go ahead and ask this here. Any thoughts on air fryers? I don't like cooking fried foods for health reasons and the clean up, but we've been considering an air fryer as an alternative. Baked fish and chips or oven-baked "fried" chicken just aren't the same as when they're actually fried.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at January 20, 2019 05:08 PM (XXNQ+)

351 When Pence will guide the planets and Trump will steer the stars!
Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (Evws/)
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This is the dawning of the age of the Orange Man, age of the Orange Maaaaaaaaaaannnn.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:08 PM (Qjgq3)

352 Lunar eclipses are for losers.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (U96rM)


The cool kids are all predicting the comets.

Posted by: Edmund Halley at January 20, 2019 05:08 PM (UGqF8)

353 342 Ooops, ColOmbian(s).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:06 PM (kQs4Y)

"Paco! Grab a towel and get your ass to the liquor store, the jug's almost empty!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:08 PM (Ct55T)

354 Still no food thread.

The waiters in this place suck.

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (T71PA)

355 Or how french toast is a hot dumpster full of wet garbage and some people can only choke it down by drenching it in maple syrup.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:07 PM (t+qrx)

Nonsense. You make a sandwich with ham, turkey and cheese, batter and deep fry it, eat it with a side of raspberry jam and then die of a massive heart attack.

Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (7PLM4)

356 Serious question: If the eclipse is caused by the sun casting a shadow, why does it happen at night?

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 04:17 PM (m45I2)

I didn't see a serious answer to this (I suspect because it seems like a setup), but in order to see the earth's shadow, from the surface of the earth, you have to be in it (nighttime).
Or to put it another way, note that the moon has to be full in order to be eclisped (its orbit has to put it 'behind' the earth for the sunlit side of the moon to be visible in its entirety on earth), so a full moon cannot be seen in the sky at the same time as the sun.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (kOpft)

357 a good wine for tonight may be a solid Sagrantino and maybe some sangria for the kids.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (UHDYi)

358 >>Jack, I finally found you a dance partner! He's even willing to let you lead.

I don't dance. I just do the white guy overbite shuffle.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (/tuJf)

359 Or how french toast is a hot dumpster full of wet garbage and some people can only choke it down by drenching it in maple syrup.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 05:07 PM (t+qrx)


Have to stop you there. French toast is awesome, all on its own. But if one must put a topping on it, only powdered sugar or cinnamin sugar are acceptable. Maple syrup is for pancakes and waffles ... which are awesome in their own right.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (U96rM)

360 "Paco! Grab a towel and get your ass to the liquor store, the jug's almost empty!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:08 PM (Ct55T)
---
But first...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (kQs4Y)

361 Hey, what's Ace doing up on a Sunday anyway?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (UGqF8)

362 Anything, even chocolate everything else

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (YndB3)

363 When Pence will guide the planets

He's the perfect guy. He never deviates from a predetermined path. Lord, is he boring.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (T6t7i)

364
found where you ordered the two Nutcracker bracelets. yes, I got the check and deposited it last week. It should have cleared by now though.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 05:05 PM


Oh, they always return checks from Morons back to you in the mail as a courtesy, with a punch hole through them.

/ Anyone know what I'm referring to? It was the bane of my existence during the Carter years.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi Galore at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (jYje5)

365 Food thread is going to be on fast food.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (+0faA)

366 C'mon Jack. You did cotillion. You've let that tidbit slip here before.

Posted by: bluebell at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (Qjgq3)

367 Well, that didn't work at all......

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (YndB3)

368 Well, it looks like all I have is bacon vodka, so a Bloody Mary it is.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (kQs4Y)

369 Did someone say shoes?

https://tinyurl.com/y9hfrr8q

You may want to check out the link if you recently lost a puppy.

Posted by: chique d'afrique at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (9hauA)

370 Nottasammich:

1 oz cheese cubed
1 roma tomato lrg cubed
1/4 cu spinach
1/4 cu saurkraut
2 slices roast beef (cotto salmi may be substituted)
1/4 cu bell pepper sliced
3 tbs mustard

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 05:10 PM (ePWRo)

371 what's Ace doing up on a Sunday anyway?

+++

He was told there would be cake.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (z2W2E)

372 >>How do you know i'm not using the sprouts to cover up the taste of everything else?

Wheels within wheels.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (/tuJf)

373 >>Jack, I finally found you a dance partner! He's even willing to let you lead.

I don't dance. I just do the white guy overbite shuffle.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:09 PM (/tuJf)



Then Bluebell got me all dreamy and excited for nothing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (UGqF8)

374 The only acceptable topping for French Toast is butter and salt.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (IcJtd)

375 Food thread up...

Posted by: HH at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (mIJBI)

376 There's a photo of an Irish baby drinking a Guinness.

How is that newsworthy?

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (VigyG)

377 Any thoughts on air fryers? I don't like cooking fried foods for health reasons and the clean up, but we've been considering an air fryer as an alternative.

***********************

That's interesting, my parents just replaced their toaster oven with an air fryer. They love it depending on what you cook. They just bought a whole chicken and used the air fryer to cook it today and it came out perfect.

For other things like french fries it takes some trial and error to get it right, but on a whole the food they've been cooking has come out more flavorful and tastier using a fryer.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (+dsLj)

378 You people seem to be misconstruing my sprout frittata recipe for an attempt at covering up the flavor of the sprouts.

It does precisely the opposite.

And by your logic, literally ANY recipe combining two or more ingredients is invalid, as you ought to just eat all the ingredients separately, and raw, or else... hell i don't know, it's your crazy idea not mine.

*harrumph*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (Ct55T)

379 Wheels within wheels.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (/tuJf)

Trust the recipe.

Posted by: Qanon at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM (7PLM4)

380 test

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 05:12 PM (YndB3)

381 Then Bluebell got me all dreamy and excited for nothing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 05:11 PM


I'm here for you. Call me.

Posted by: L. Dunham at January 20, 2019 05:13 PM (DMUuz)

382 >>C'mon Jack. You did cotillion. You've let that tidbit slip here before.

I believe I was also quite clear that I was very bad at it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 05:13 PM (/tuJf)

383 350 All right, I've been patiently waiting for the food thread, but will go ahead and ask this here. Any thoughts on air fryers? I don't like cooking fried foods for health reasons and the clean up, but we've been considering an air fryer as an alternative. Baked fish and chips or oven-baked "fried" chicken just aren't the same as when they're actually fried.

Our air fryer is a good replacement for a toaster oven, Faster too cook with and way better cleanup. Not like a fryer in any way. fried food is good but it is not cooked in dry air.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 20, 2019 05:13 PM (0OmEj)

384 Hey, what's Ace doing up on a Sunday anyway?
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He's not.

He wrote the post tomorrow and is using his time machine.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (kOpft)

385 Many on the Left believe like its a religion. And some have a vested interest in this Church.

To them, Trump is the Antichrist because he won't go along to get along.

e.g. pulling out of the Paris Accords is a rebuke to global warming

Some, like Kristol, are leeches that had to find a new host

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 05:14 PM (1UZdv)

386 Thanks Jewells. I was afraid you didn't get it and I was on the shit list.

Posted by: Infidel at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (9L2du)

387 Microsoft New has dutifully picked up the story about the RC high school students with the agitator saying, "The mob mentality was scary" Pathetic liars.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (AllCR)

388

The first observed lunar/solar eclipse must have scared the observers spitless.

This occurs to me each time I note these events. Talk about turning your world upside down.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 20, 2019 05:16 PM (S/hVx)

389 Microsoft New has dutifully picked up the story about the RC high school students with the agitator saying, "The mob mentality was scary" Pathetic liars.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 05:15 PM (AllCR)

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It's almost as if they've forgotten the mobs of children chanting "mmm, mmm, mmm" about Obama during the reign of error.

Posted by: Calm Mentor's GoFundMe at January 20, 2019 05:18 PM (ffYR/)

390 All these "Native Americans" are a bunch of tax-exempt virtue-signaling assholes looking for a reason to be offended by Whitey.
WTF is the proper response to some rando rotten-toothed old fart beating his drum and blowing decay-halitosis in your face?

Posted by: mikeyG at January 20, 2019 05:19 PM (LL1Be)

391
Lap Steel version of Neil Young's Harvest Moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLOOmtvC9Hc

This dood's lap steel technique is absolutely gorgeous.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 05:20 PM (eXA4G)

392 <blockquote>If you have misbehaving children, tonight is a good night to Re-Impose
Your Parental Authority by taking them into the back yard and telling
them you will Destroy the Moon unless they clean their Legos off the
floor</blockquote>
Works a lot better if you have a solar eclipse at hand. Just ask Hank Morgan (c.f. <i>A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court<i>
Just remember the incantation to undo the spell: "Let the enchantment dissolve and pass harmlessly away!"

Though I suppose you need to work with the army you've got, not the one you wish you had...

Posted by: civil truth at January 20, 2019 05:22 PM (BDZwF)

393 05
200 53 Ace posting on Sunday? His photograph above the fold on the current post of The Other McCain?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 20, 2019 04:10 PM (DMUuz)



Indeed! And much Ace-appreciation going on over there.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 04:38 PM (eJj1Q)



ace looks a bit crazed in the photo- like he's about ready to shank a fool.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2019 04:39 PM (ycWCI)

Very interesting article about Ace over at The Other McCain. It provides insight about the mysterious Ace that makes a lot of sense.

The Other McCain made a statement that Ace really hides his true identity, otherwise the Leftists will harass him and ruin it. Living behind enemy lines here in Seattle, I get it. Discretion truly is the better part of valor.

Perspective is a powerful
tool that the right uses as often as possible, while the Left despises
it because the natural next step is that people start thinking for
themselves.
Ace's posts are based on facts. Which is why the Left considers him an enemy. And some day, I would enjoy buying him a cold one for his efforts and perspective.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 05:39 PM (sy5kK)

394 The Express in London frets about Texas fundamentalists freaking out over the sign of the end times. I'm going g to go out to shoot at it to exorcise the demons just keep the Brits happy.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 20, 2019 05:42 PM (G/6B6)

395 I did not know that planetary orbits are not symmetrical.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2019

+++++

Drove early astronomers NUTS, because the Heavens were supposed to be a perfect sphere.

Posted by: TANSTAAFL at January 20, 2019 05:47 PM (T09ml)

396



"Well now, isn't that interesting. As we can see, the Covington kids were
dancing and chanting when Mr. Phillips decided to march into their circle. In fact, once you have that context, the entire first clip takes on a different light. "



We expect to have all copies of this video, and the phones that took it, and the people that own those phones, "disappeared" by start of business on Tuesday.


Monday is a vacation day.




Posted by: Bill, working the vacation shift for Bob at NSA at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (sy5kK)

397 Posted by: Bill, working the vacation shift for Bob at NSA at January 20, 2019 05:48 PM (sy5kK)

MSN and Detroit Free Press published a NEW article about this lie.

Pretty scary.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 05:51 PM (NgKpN)

398
Very interesting article about Ace over at The Other McCain.
That was quite good, just read the whole thing. Yeah, Thanks for mentioning it, as I would not have seen it otherwise.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 05:54 PM (14URa)

399 239
Peaches, he's probably at the liquor store. Oh wait, it's Sunday. Probably napping.

Posted by: bluebell



CBD did a coupla posts today.



I'm confident that CBD can do both. But then again, I am sometimes overly positive. Not that you would know that from what I usually post here.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at January 20, 2019 06:03 PM (sy5kK)

400 NFC game in overtime. Saints got robbed.

Posted by: joncelli of the Howling Horde at January 20, 2019 06:07 PM (1FhAQ)

401 Moon gets very dark red in eclipse. Earths atmosphere thin as it is refracts a lot light onto the Moon even when fully in shadow.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 04:25 PM (ZfRYq)

Yes. I saw one of these lunar eclipse/"blood moons" back in the early 1980s. Had to wait up until about 2am to see it, but I was a lot younger then.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at January 20, 2019 06:18 PM (p0pYQ)

402 Blood moon I saw you standing all alone devouring Wolfman....way to go ..Now build the BLOOD-E WALL NANCY.

Posted by: saf at January 20, 2019 06:37 PM (5IHGB)

403 I am SUPERMAN there is no MOON but ME!

Posted by: saf at January 20, 2019 06:38 PM (5IHGB)

404 Not to nitpick, but shouldn't this be called a "terrestial eclipse?" A "lunar eclipse" is when the moon blocks the earth, so the proper terminology should be used for the opposite effect.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at January 20, 2019 07:28 PM (SH7Tr)

Ah...A Bit Of Sanity To Help Put Out The Hair Fires: China Is Losing The Trade War

Japan Inc. of the 1980s was an unstoppable economic powerhouse that was going to buy up every bit of American real estate, sell us all of our cars and electronics, and then finally win the war they started in December 1941.

It didn't work out quite the way it was presented to us by an hysterical media, and today Japan is in social and demographic trouble beyond the worst projections for America.

So here is a breath of fresh air about the impending doom barrelling toward us in the shape of the Chinese Dragon.

China Is Losing The Trade War In Nearly Every Way

China is still the world's No. 2 economy and is still the monster of emerging markets, but regardless of those bonafides, Xi Jinping's country is losing the trade war in nearly every way imaginable.
As the article points out, China plays the long game, but at least for the time being, America has some qualitative advantages that are going to be hard to beat. And China has demographic issues of its own that are significant, chief among them a declining birth rate and a lopsided male:female ratio. I guess that whole "One Child" plan had some unintended consequences!

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Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:29 PM (pw+jk)

2 WIN- WIN

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3 3rd

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5 th

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:29 PM (pw+jk)

6 I'll take a Sunday first

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:30 PM (pw+jk)

7 Wait what the hell

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at January 20, 2019 02:30 PM (6EvUv)

8 7th

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9 9th

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10 corgis called

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:30 PM (pw+jk)

11 Damn almost ten for ten.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:31 PM (pw+jk)

12 Remember the BRICS?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 02:31 PM (ePWRo)

13 I tried to get 3rd, but you bumped my comment off, Jukin.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (6EvUv)

14 We have sold a bunch of deeply discounted razors to China.

Posted by: Gillette Marketing Department at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (pw+jk)

15 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (ZfRYq)

16 I tried to get 3rd, but you bumped my comment off, Jukin.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (6EvUv)

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Almost ran the table. You got to take your openings when you see them... and have just gotten your first beer.

Posted by: Gillette Marketing Department at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (pw+jk)

17 We have sold a bunch of deeply discounted razors to China.

Posted by: Gillette Marketing Department at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (pw+jk)
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Was it the smaller more delicate feminine size?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (ePWRo)

18 Damn. Sock fail. High on my post Fu

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (pw+jk)

19 Yeah, if you are going to have a "one-child" policy you have to outlaw aborting the females.

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (3HNOQ)

20 No way. The media would have told me if this was true.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (/tuJf)

21 Ah...A Bit Of Sanity To Help Put Out The Hair Fires: China Is Losing The Trade War

China could never win a trade war. They don't trade, they just export.

The US has long had this neurotic view of itself that we needed any of these countries. No. They need us. THeir entire development has been on the backs of our markets.

We see the same shit with the illegals. There are billions of people on Earth dying to immigrate here. We are lucky enough to be in a position that we get to pick and choose who we want. But, there are so many in this country who make these ridiculous arguments that we are beggars for immigrants and, therefore, have to take the dregs who decide, on their own, to invade us. Crazy.

China should have had it most favored trading nation status yanked decades ago ... but, of course, Clinton and the dems were too busy giving China the keys to the kingdom in exchange for a few tens of thousands in buddhist temple campaign loot. The "free trade" (LOL - they really mean 'free export to America') conservatives have also been a major problem in this area. They're just crazy with the delusion of a borderless world. Assholes.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (U96rM)

22 House committee chairman's comments on 'barriers' show a growing divide among Democrats over a wall

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Nanzi: I have not yet begun to fight!

Dknks who have some contact with reality: Ahhhhhh.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (+y/Ru)

23 I guess that whole "One Child" plan had some unintended consequences!

Pretty hard to give birth to 20 year olds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (if8r4)

24 We have sold a bunch of deeply discounted razors to China.

Posted by: Gillette Marketing Department at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (pw+jk)
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>Was it the smaller more delicate feminine size?
Posted by: Braenyard

>>No, the Pink Tax make those more expensive.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at January 20, 2019 02:35 PM (6EvUv)

25 17
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Was it the smaller more delicate feminine size?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (ePWRo)
Not like most of 'em even HAVE hair. Just sayin' . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:35 PM (14URa)

26 17 We have sold a bunch of deeply discounted razors to China.

Posted by: Gillette Marketing Department at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (pw+jk)
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Was it the smaller more delicate feminine size?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (ePWRo)


Tweezers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:35 PM (if8r4)

27 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (ZfRYq)
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Let's make a deal.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 02:35 PM (ePWRo)

28 Damn clever those Chinese... um, okay, wait a minute.

Posted by: GuyfromNH at January 20, 2019 02:35 PM (Gs5TH)

29 >>Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

Even better, China whacked a bunch of US products with sanctions including pork products. The Chinese eat a shit load of pork.

The biggest pork producer in the US is Smithfield Foods. Smithfield is owned by the Chinese.

Trump got the Chinese to sanction themselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:36 PM (/tuJf)

30 Ha!

The US is the largest market in the world. Denying access to that market is a pretty damned big stick, and it's long past time we started using it.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 20, 2019 02:36 PM (IfYaq)

31 About time for the Chinese to get at each other's throats too, since they seem to suffer some kind of internecine conflict at regular intervals.

Posted by: joncelli, consulting his Roget's at January 20, 2019 02:36 PM (1FhAQ)

32 But trade WARZ!!!


Tariffs don't work! They penalize the people in the country imposing them! There are graphs, and everything!


I actually think Trump is sincere about going for zero tariffs/other impediments. I think on these things he is a true believer.


The more interesting story may be the situation with the EU. The UK's sad "elites" are putting on a clinic on repudiating/nullifying representative government in putatively representative systems, how that turns out and the US reaction may be somewhat interesting.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:37 PM (QDnY+)

33 China's biggest problem has always been feeding itself.

Take away our imported food products to the Red Chinamen and watch as they descend into civil wars and cannibalism.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 02:37 PM (Z+IKu)

34 Trump got the Chinese to sanction themselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:36 PM (/tuJf)
Every single day I love him more!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:37 PM (14URa)

35 China imports food. We import cheap crap.

I always wondered who would win the trade war... NOT.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:38 PM (pw+jk)

36 Remember from a few years ago China had a couple of cities built with hardly a soul in them just to keep people working.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 02:38 PM (/rm4P)

37 "and today Japan is in social and demographic trouble beyond the worst projections for America".

As long as Japan has sense enough to retain it's racial homogeneity, the can repair their problems. I don't think that is possible anymore in America, without separation and/or war.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at January 20, 2019 02:39 PM (3sjI6)

38 Holy smokes it is so great to have a president that plays for our team.

Thank You POTUS Trump.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:39 PM (pw+jk)

39 Fearmongering over trade deficits has always been absurd. And of course only a popular media topic during Republican presidencies.

The obsession with trade surpluses dates back to mercantalism, the only economic system to rival socialism in it's detachment from common sense.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 02:39 PM (gDSJf)

40 I've been predicting China's collapse for some time. I give the current regime 10 years.

One Child blew out decades of demographics, and it's coming due. China's median age is 38 -- the US is 36.5 -- and it will now get real old real fast. Dynamic economies are often young. Taking care of the old is an economic burden.

Every 75 to 100 years China blows up with rural uprisings against the elites. This time with pollution. The water is worse than the air.

Central planning works! Until it spectacularly fails!!

Tick tock. Tick tock.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 02:39 PM (1UZdv)

41 22 House committee chairman's comments on 'barriers' show a growing divide among Democrats over a wall

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Nanzi: I have not yet begun to fight!

Dknks who have some contact with reality: Ahhhhhh.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (+y/Ru)

Nancy Von Paulusi has declared The Wall to be their Stalingrad.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2019 02:40 PM (Izzlo)

42 25; Peaches, that's what I was thinking. What are they shaving? One blade would last all year.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:41 PM (KP5rU)

43 >>>Trump got the Chinese to sanction themselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:36 PM (/tuJf)


Every single day I love him more!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:37 PM (14URa)
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^^^

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 02:41 PM (ePWRo)

44 I have a couple of Chinese nationals on my team. You should hear their stories of their home life. One room thatched and mud huts with dirt floors and no heating other than the mud "stove". Any disabled child, if they weren't abandoned to die in the woods, live with the pigs and ducks.

They both came from small villages. The folks that work in factories in the cities may even be worse off. Crammed into tenements and damn near slaves chained to their work stations.
They aren't ever going back.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 02:41 PM (9rIkM)

45 The surrender of Nanzi Palsi and Schmuck Schemer on the wall will not be televised. Heck it will barely get a mention on page 34.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:41 PM (pw+jk)

46 People who live in houses of cards shouldn't throw stones.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 02:42 PM (dcu2m)

47 The way to keep China in-check is to undermine and limit their activity in Africa. Resource-rich Africa.

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 02:42 PM (wxZSX)

48 Trump got the Chinese to sanction themselves.

Trump holding his brother down: Stop hitting yourself! Stop.hitting yourself!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:42 PM (+y/Ru)

49 China relied on its main resource, humans, remaining cheap. Other options are now available, including Vietnam and Africa, and robots are waiting in the wings.

China is a dead man walking.

Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 02:42 PM (CFavQ)

50 >>Remember from a few years ago China had a couple of cities built with hardly a soul in them just to keep people working.

A couple years ago I visited the brand new University of Macau that was built by the Chinese government to replace the aging and much smaller one in downtown Macau.

It was only opened a couple years prior, is about 90% empty an already falling apart. Most of the Chinese miracle is smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (/tuJf)

51 I'm not a fan of Trade War and they have to lose for us to win. Trade is almost definitionally positive for both sides, but I'm not here to fight the free market wars today.

China for years has had (at least) two systemic problems that will render its dominance unsustainable.

A non-convertible currency and a thoroughly corrupt reporting system means that their real growth and productivity are not measurable.

More than that, econimic freedoms have made many Chinese rich. But they still have no political freedom. It is easy to oppress poor people. I don't think rich people will put up with it indefinitely.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (fuK7c)

52 Very interesting. Worth clicking link!

One quibble here though about Japan. It remains to be seen whether their approach to demographic decline will bring them social trouble "beyond the worst projections for America."

They could easily solve the demographic decline by opening the gates to mass immigration from the Philippines and elsewhere, couldn't they?
And yet they don't.
Hmmmm.......

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (Rxduq)

53 46 The surrender of Nanzi Palsi and Schmuck Schemer on the wall will not be televised. Heck it will barely get a mention on page 34.


And, of course, a week of Tweets by the Leader of the Free World.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (dcu2m)

54 Right now, President Stuttering Custerfuck would be apologizing to the Chinese and offering foreign aid to offset our Imperial exceptionalism.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (EwLjS)

55 Man Trump doesn't know anything about trade or dealing with the Chinese.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (pw+jk)

56 People who live in houses of cards shouldn't throw stones draw to an inside straight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:44 PM (+y/Ru)

57 A Large portion of China's GDP growth is due to the Trade Deficit.

We are literally supporting the increase in their economy.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 02:45 PM (NgKpN)

58 One Child blew out decades of demographics, and it's coming due. China's median age is 38 -- the US is 36.5 -- and it will now get real old real fast. Dynamic economies are often young. Taking care of the old is an economic burden.

Posted by: Ignoramus

>My girlfriend got bumped out of China because of that policy. So there's been some good out of it.

Posted by: Delaforce the Air Mechanic at January 20, 2019 02:45 PM (6EvUv)

59 We have decided to live the rest of our short corporate life as a gay man.

Posted by: Gillette Marketing Department at January 20, 2019 02:45 PM (pw+jk)

60 Trump got the Chinese to sanction themselves.

Posted by: JackStraw
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Not only that, I know of two Smithfield processing plants that ICE agents raided recently. 80% of the line workers (illegals) were seized and deported back to Guatemala and Honduras.

I need this man, he fights!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 02:45 PM (9rIkM)

61 43
25; Peaches, that's what I was thinking. What are they shaving? One blade would last all year.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:41 PM (KP5rU)
I have, like, 12 hairs on my legs. A Mach3 lasts me a couple years. Bought some generic ones from Walmart and they SUCK. The real ones were only about a dollar more. I will be buying them. But, my toxic masculinity is not really an issue at my age.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:45 PM (14URa)

62 Trade that is managed to the detriment of one or more parties and is not based on actual comparative advantages is not definitionally positive for anyone, necessarily, over time (apart from the managers and selected winners).


But you knew that.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:46 PM (QDnY+)

63 The way to keep China in-check is to undermine and limit their activity in Africa. Resource-rich Africa.
Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 02:42 PM (wxZSX)

You are pursuing last century's narrative. How did the Europeans and White America fare by involving themselves in keeping that narrative going? Not very well. All the "chickens" came home to roost. A home they never lived in.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (3sjI6)

64 Wait, wait. Do you mean to tell me that aborting all the girl babies and stealing tech instead of developing your own *aren't* the best ways of doing things?

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (7PLM4)

65 Tonypete - 80%? Did those facilities close? Have they hired replacements?


This is the sort of targeted enforcement that should have started on January 21, 2017 (actually there's a better overall way but that's a long boring screed - and ultimately relies on the threat of raids such as you describe, in the end).


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (QDnY+)

66 I need this man, he fights!

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Trump = Grant

Romney = McClellan

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (+y/Ru)

67
The US has long had this neurotic view of itself that we needed any of these countries. No. They need us. THeir entire development has been on the backs of our markets.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (U96rM)







This is also true for Europe, South America, everywhere else in Asia. Look at every technological, medical, cultural or market innovation over the past 100 years. Virtually every one of them originates in the US.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 02:49 PM (eXA4G)

68 The US is the largest market in the world.

Not just the largest, but much larger than #2, China. And that's counting their ghost cities.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 02:49 PM (yAc+w)

69 Yeah, if you are going to have a "one-child" policy you have to outlaw aborting the females.

Posted by: JAS


And have an economic "safety net".

China still uses the model "eldest child takes care of the elderly parents".

So now, new-college-grad boy looks at his prospects.

In a few years, his parents will be moving in with him, and his salary will be supporting three people.

If he gets married, his wife will traditionally become a stay-at-home non-working mom. Or, stay-at-home non-working elder-care provider.

So now his salary supports six people, because his wife's parents aren't living with their eldest son, they're living with her, because one-child policy.

Then they have a kid.

Seven people. On one salary.

Marriage is now limited not to those of age, but to those whose parents have died already, or to the Chinese version of "the one percent" who can live like this.

(Based on a conversation with a work-related contact in China.)

Posted by: mikeski at January 20, 2019 02:49 PM (P1f+c)

70 But but but. Whenever I watch "The Amazing Race", they always go a beautiful and prosperous China.

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 02:49 PM (3HNOQ)

71 They could easily solve the demographic decline by opening the gates to mass immigration from the Philippines and elsewhere, couldn't they?
And yet they don't.
Hmmmm.......


I've spent some time in China. No. Fucking. Way. The pollution is so bad and there's no getting away from big brother.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 02:49 PM (YndB3)

72 15 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.
Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (ZfRYq)
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It used to be that mainland Chinese would ask visiting relatives to bring back American rice because it was superior quality and didn't have rocks and dirt in it.

Talk about "coals to Newcastle"!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (kQs4Y)

73 Trump may have won a narrow minor battle but China is set to rock our entire economic system.

This trade war is far from over and it looks like we lost it right out the gate. Trump's policies are economic unsound and ultimately will hurt women and children of color the hardest. It is just another form of toxic white patriarchy.

Posted by: WAPO Editorisl Board at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (pw+jk)

74 65 Wait, wait. Do you mean to tell me that aborting all the girl babies and stealing tech instead of developing your own *aren't* the best ways of doing things?
Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (7PLM4)

Of course they are!

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (NWiLs)

75 Man Trump doesn't know anything about trade or dealing with the Chinese.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM


This.

Posted by: Guffin MacGuffinyface at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (DMUuz)

76 Man Trump doesn't know anything about trade or dealing with the Chinese.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 02:43 PM (pw+jk)

Jonah knows which massage places offer the 'happy ending'.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (7PLM4)

77 "there will be no big push to remove the 11,000,000 plus people who are here illegally"


Gotten meu.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (QDnY+)

78 A half hour later they're hungry for power again.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 02:51 PM (dcu2m)

79 "People who live in houses of cards shouldn't throw stones draw to an inside straight"

Depends on the pot odds.

Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 02:51 PM (CFavQ)

80 for the time being, America has some qualitative advantages that are going to be hard to beat.

We have the premier Grievance Studies departments on the planet!

As soon as our best and brightest start going to college in China, I'll know things have changed.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 02:51 PM (YPJrZ)

81 Tonypete - 80%? Did those facilities close? Have they hired replacements?





Posted by: rhomboid
----
They closed one temporarily to consolidate workforces at the other. It is just limping along. Production is negligible. They are having a hell of a time hiring replacements. Read this as the engineering staff is try to operate the lines.


Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 02:52 PM (9rIkM)

82 I have a few Gillette blades left. Once they're gone, Schick, I guess. So far, I think they've kept their mouth shut. Pretty damn hard to not buy anything from P&G. Fuckers own everything, it seems.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:53 PM (KP5rU)

83 Tonypete - fascinating. Prediction: they will have to raise wages and/or improve conditions, to get their positions filled.


Why ..... it's almost, almost .... as if mass illegal migration is a devastatingly bad thing for many sectors of the populace and economy, as it turns out.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:54 PM (QDnY+)

84 Did Ace have his lawyer send Jonah and National Review a "Cease and Desist Letter regarding the MacGuffinization of Politics?"

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 02:54 PM (3HNOQ)

85 But but but. Whenever I watch "The Amazing Race", they always go a beautiful and prosperous China.

Posted by: JAS
----
Well, I guess Hong Kong is technically China.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 02:54 PM (9rIkM)

86 China will grow old before it grows rich.

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 20, 2019 02:54 PM (yQpMk)

87 >>>You are pursuing last century's narrative. How did the Europeans and
White America fare by involving themselves in keeping that narrative
going? Not very well. All the "chickens" came home to roost. A home they
never lived in.<<<

Actually that narrative came from a NYT bestselling spy novel I read six months ago. Very compelling.

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 02:55 PM (wxZSX)

88 "The Amazing Race" is racist! Big fucking time.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:55 PM (KP5rU)

89 67 I need this man, he fights!
-
Trump = Grant

Romney = McClellan Some 12 year old punk with a fife and not much else

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (+y/Ru)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (Ct55T)

90 After watching that youtube video from Ezra Levant, Schick and Harry's and Dollar have done the same thing. BUT they took the ad and tweets down. My next razor will be a Safety Razor with dirt cheap blades that last forever. Payback for the expensive razor will be less than 9 months.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (pw+jk)

91 Holy mackerel, Jimmy Buffet has made a fortune from his singing? Cringeworthy!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (14URa)

92 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.


We're selling coal in Newcastle!

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (yQpMk)

93 The Other McCain has a post up about starting the Great MacGuffin War of 2019.

If I could cancel my own damn subscription to NR I would, but I did that a long time ago.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 02:58 PM (ZfRYq)

94
I guess that whole "One Child" plan had some unintended consequences!

How many child policy do we have?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 02:58 PM (aKsyK)

95 Tonypete - fascinating. Prediction: they will have to raise wages and/or improve conditions, to get their positions filled.





Why ..... it's almost, almost .... as if mass illegal migration is a
devastatingly bad thing for many sectors of the populace and economy,
as it turns out.





Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:54 PM (QDnY+)

=====
Oh NOES. We will have to pay $0 .02 more per pound. It is the end of the world!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:58 PM (pw+jk)

96 83 In the same spot, when there gone the handle goes with it. Might try old style single blade.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 02:58 PM (/rm4P)

97 92; Peaches, I just caught that. What the fuck, Foster Brooks (if he was alive,) would have been better. Should have went with Ozzy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:59 PM (KP5rU)

98 93 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

We're selling coal in Newcastle!
Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (yQpMk)

Next on Trump's trade agenda:

Ice to Eskimos

Sand to Arabs

Tentacle Hentai to Japan

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:59 PM (Ct55T)

99 83 I have a few Gillette blades left. Once they're gone, Schick, I guess.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:53 PM (KP5rU)


Apparently Schick is pretty much the same. They just pulled their anti-male campaign as soon as they saw what happened to Gillette.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iJgWrO9_oQ at the 23:06 mark.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:59 PM (if8r4)

100 Play ball!

Posted by: grammie winger at January 20, 2019 03:00 PM (lwiT4)

101 Jukin, it's OK. H-1Bs (and H-2Bs) are being increased/sweetened, so suppression of wages in other areas will cancel out the meat processing "inflation".


Well I don't know about the second part, but the first part is true.


Oh yes.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 03:00 PM (QDnY+)

102 99 93 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

We're selling coal in Newcastle!
Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (yQpMk)

Next on Trump's trade agenda:

Ice to Eskimos

Sand to Arabs

Tentacle Hentai to Japan
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:59 PM (Ct55T)


Let's give him the ultimate test: selling deodorant to the French.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 03:00 PM (if8r4)

103 I guess that whole "One Child" plan had some unintended consequences!

How many child policy do we have?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 02:58 PM (aKsyK)

If "gendering" your children is immoral, how long until "numbering" your children is also verboten?

"How many kids do you have?"

"BIGOT!!!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 03:00 PM (Ct55T)

104 Bill Kristol stepped on his dick again.

Castigated the Covington High MAGA boys. and then went off that if they had been wearing McCain hats, Saint John would have called the Old Indian to apologize. "Will Trump?"

What a maroon!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 03:01 PM (1UZdv)

105 100: Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll just go muzzie, or ZZ Top.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 03:01 PM (KP5rU)

106 I need this man, he fights!

-
Trump = Grant

Romney = McClellan Vichy France

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 02:48 PM (+y/Ru)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (SiINZ)

107 72 They could easily solve the demographic decline by opening the gates to mass immigration from the Philippines and elsewhere, couldn't they?
And yet they don't.
Hmmmm.......
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I've spent some time in China. No. Fucking. Way. The pollution is so bad and there's no getting away from big brother.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 20, 2019 02:49 PM (YndB3)
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Talking about JAPAN, not China.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (Rxduq)

108 of course trade deficits matter ... they take the surplus and buy up American industry, which is the same as them conquering US, for the most part. It is not "trade" when they buy our assets.


The originator or "comparative advantage" knew and wrote of all its limitations (externalities) ... crossing borders, different currency, trade versus asset acquisition (conquering, not trading) ...


The "free trade" crap ignored most of that with the promise China would become more free ---> world peace in our time. It was a fabricated lie from the start. Jeanne Kirkpatrick knew this about the commies ...


https://tinyurl.com/y85x7gfw

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (Cus5s)

109
Bill Kristol stepped on his dick again.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 03:01 PM (1UZdv)






Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (eXA4G)

110 Bill's dick must be thin as a pancake from so much steppin' on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (pw+jk)

111 My next razor will be a Safety Razor with dirt cheap blades that last forever. Payback for the expensive razor will be less than 9 months.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM

A razor used for shaving should never go dull, and yet they do. Ever wonder why?

Rust. That and the glide strips degrade to the point where the shave feels uncomfortable to the skin as compared to new.

But under a microscope, the blades get just a bit of rust on their cutting edge, and it becomes deformed just enough. The extreme thin-ness of the blades makes deformity for likely too.

So take your average safety razor and that cheap blade, and if you take the blade out after every shave, wipe off the residue and store it in a small container filled with alcohol where it'll never rust, it actually should last forever.

What? You think those hairs on your face are dulling the blade? Really?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 20, 2019 03:03 PM (z79tQ)

112 Holy mackerel, Jimmy Buffet has made a fortune from his singing? Cringeworthy!
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (14URa)

Not as cringeworthy as knowing that Bob Dylan did too.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 03:03 PM (7PLM4)

113 Kristolmeth has a dick? Learn something here everyday.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 03:03 PM (KP5rU)

114 What? You think those hairs on your face are dulling the blade? Really?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 20, 2019 03:03 PM (z79tQ)

Yes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 03:03 PM (Ct55T)

115 I guess that whole "One Child" plan had some unintended consequences!

How many child policy do we have?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 02:58 PM (aKsyK)


Most US citizens that work and pay taxes actually can barely afford to have one or two kids with parental DNA; however, in reality, in addition to paying to raise their own genetic children, they are paying via their taxes for about 4 extra welfare and/or illegal kids they'll never see or know!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (f3oO4)

116 Tentacle Hentai to Japan
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:59 PM (Ct55T)

Hold up there. We should be very cautious about dipping into our strategic reserve of tentacle hentai.

If war breaks out we need to guarantee that we always have some available for the domestic market.

Posted by: Kurt Eichenwald at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (gDSJf)

117 Anonosaurus - over 400 Allied KIA/MIA in Operation Torch ..... against Vichy French forces. So in a few cases they did fight. I think a Romney comparison maligns the Vichy French military.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (QDnY+)

118 Actually that narrative came from a NYT bestselling spy novel I read six months ago. Very compelling.
Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 02:55 PM (wxZSX)

Oh, a spy novel. Well, that's different. Never mind!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (3sjI6)

119 106 100: Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll just go muzzie, or ZZ Top.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 03:01 PM (KP5rU)


My pleasure. I use Equate disposable razors, i.e., the Walmart brand. So far I don't know anything bad about them, and buying Walmart stuff has the added advantage of irritating leftists.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (if8r4)

120 Most US citizens that work and pay taxes actually
can barely afford to have one or two kids with parental DNA; however, in
reality, in addition to paying to raise their own genetic children,
they are paying via their taxes for about 4 extra welfare and/or illegal
kids they'll never see or know!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (f3oO4)

=====
Might meet some in a store robbery or car jacking but otherwise no.

And boy are you right! This was also planned by the commies of the democrat party.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 03:05 PM (pw+jk)

121 Anonosaurus - over 400 Allied KIA/MIA in Operation Torch ..... against Vichy French forces. So in a few cases they did fight. I think a Romney comparison maligns the Vichy French military.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 03:04 PM (QDnY+)


That was me and I meant he's fighting for the other side

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 03:06 PM (SiINZ)

122 There's a shaving blade cleaner/sharpener thinggy for sale on the interwebs that addresses that whole issue of blades losing their effectiveness.


Dunno about how well they work, but sounds logical.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 03:06 PM (QDnY+)

123 Really well written article. Most writers fail to note that you can't believe the economic data released by the Chicoms.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:07 PM (IcJtd)

124 Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (eXA4G)
I chortled!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 03:07 PM (14URa)

125 I think a Romney comparison maligns the Vichy French military.

======
Fits perfectly. Romney went to war against his allies in the primaries and then bent over and spread them for the real enema, Obama.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 03:08 PM (pw+jk)

126 If we are lucky, the PRC will annex North Korea for women.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2019 03:08 PM (c1sSU)

127 Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:02 PM (Cus5s)

You've convinced me.

Clearly, we should return to the 17th century ways of only exporting goods and hoarding gold and silver.

It's glorious luster alone is sufficient to comfort us.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 03:08 PM (gDSJf)

128 Most writers fail to note that you can't believe the economic data released by the Chicoms.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:07 PM (IcJtd)


The data here isn't too trustworthy, either. Not nearly as bad as the Chinese BS data, of course, but here you know that when Barky was in office the numbers were all massaged up and with Trump in office they're all massaged down.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 03:09 PM (U96rM)

129 I'm buying Gillette to dethatch because, it turns out, that I can look unfuckable. I'm working on getting to 2:00 AM at the dive bar fuckable.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (pw+jk)

130 Next up on CBSNEWS the story of how racist PDT America destroyed the peaceful third world communist paradise the People's Republic of China: EVIL RACISIM

Posted by: mantuaBill at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (53crM)

131 Most writers fail to note that you can't believe the economic data released by the Chicoms.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:07 PM (IcJtd)

And a lot of what they do produce is crap. Made in China is a stereotype for a reason. A lot of operators in the US don't allow Chinese made lifting equipment (shackles, slings, etcetera) to be used for anything heavy or important because they have a history of failure.

Story I heard is that they inject air into their molten steel to stretch it out and increase yields, which of course leave micro bubbles which weaken the metal. Not that they give a shit if their stuff kills you.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (7PLM4)

132 I think that is free ... an interview with Bannon and Kyle Bass, very interesting on the China dynamics.

from realvision.com

https://tinyurl.com/y9n5ayqn

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (Cus5s)

133 Still torqued about that drum march MAGA bullshit.

The most irritating part of the mess is all of the blue check TruCons ( tm ) who dove head first into condemning the kids. NRO of course covered themselves in glorious virtue.

Fucking disgusting. Their hatred of Trump is poisoning their souls to the point they believe everything that shits out of the MSM.

They prove routinely to not be in any shape or form our Betters.

Elite, my ass.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 03:11 PM (ZejZP)

134 The data here isn't too trustworthy, either. Not nearly as bad as the Chinese BS data, of course, but here you know that when Barky was in office the numbers were all massaged up and with Trump in office they're all massaged down.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 03:09 PM (U96rM)


Is it just me, but it seems no government agency ever releases the "raw" data and the data correction factor currently in vogue.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 20, 2019 03:11 PM (f3oO4)

135 123 Really well written article. Most writers fail to note that you can't believe the economic data released by the Chicoms.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:07 PM (IcJtd)


Do they report the number of jobs created or saved? Do they revise their initial numbers downward after people stop paying attention?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 03:11 PM (if8r4)

136
Rolls Razor. Works like a typical old school safety razor with the disposable blades, but includes everything you need to sharpen/hone the NON-disposable blade included in the kit.

I've been meaning to get one, but never get around to it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 03:11 PM (eXA4G)

137 Vanya, I'm shocked, shocked, at your slanderous accusations regarding Chinese steel.

Posted by: Bay Bridge Rebuilding Procurement Office at January 20, 2019 03:12 PM (QDnY+)

138 You can use one of those magic pyramids to keep your blades sharp.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 03:12 PM (aKsyK)

139 Story I heard is that they inject air into their molten steel to stretch it out and increase yields, which of course leave micro bubbles which weaken the metal. Not that they give a shit if their stuff kills you.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (7PLM4)


The Ivory Soap of steels!

Sure ... the steel's not as strong ... but it floats.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 03:12 PM (U96rM)

140 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

He got us a great deal on snow.

Posted by: Eskimos at January 20, 2019 03:13 PM (vfOIM)

141 Most writers fail to note that you can't believe the economic data released by the Chicoms.

-
Still more reliable than Chuck Toad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 03:13 PM (+y/Ru)

142 "Fucking disgusting. Their hatred of Trump is poisoning their souls to the point they believe everything that shits out of the MSM. "

Uf you scroll to the most recent comments on Kathy Griffin's twitter post about this, they are skinning her alive with raw facts and video about the kids being innocent, and she is in their opinion....a piece of shit.

So, I think they took another round below the waterline.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:13 PM (cqNba)

143 With the 5 blade shavers that Gillette put out, I found they got clogged fast because no matter how hard I tried to clean the slit between blades they always took some shaving debris.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 03:14 PM (pw+jk)

144 >Do they report the number of jobs created or saved? Do they revise their initial numbers downward after people stop paying attention?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at



As you and POP note, our data ain't perfect. Leftists gonna left no matter where they live. They just get away with less here.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:14 PM (IcJtd)

145 I once asked redbanzai, who works as an econometrician for a state govt., if "official" US econ data were now viewed by professionals who rely on it as less reliable than previously. I recall she indicated, generally, "yes", but I don't remember that we got into specifics. But she agreed with the widespread perception that national econ data was now sometimes suspect.


There was of course the little issue of "problems" with one of the unemployment surveys (enterprise or household, forget which) just before the 2012 election.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 03:15 PM (QDnY+)

146 "Clearly, we should return to the 17th century ways of only exporting goods and hoarding gold and silver.Posted by: Sjg


your snark shows you have no clue what I'm talking about, or what the "free trade" BS is based on. Mercantilism is strategic trade based on what is beneficial to the nation state. Early America traded ... America was mostly mercantilist till when??? post WW2 I guess.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:16 PM (Cus5s)

147 133 Still torqued about that drum march MAGA bullshit.

The most irritating part of the mess is all of the blue check TruCons ( tm ) who dove head first into condemning the kids. NRO of course covered themselves in glorious virtue.

Fucking disgusting. Their hatred of Trump is poisoning their souls to the point they believe everything that shits out of the MSM.

They prove routinely to not be in any shape or form our Betters.

Elite, my ass.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 03:11 PM (ZejZP)

OTH when the brain damaged children of Antifa assault people for the crime of thinking differently than they do the left and media insist it never happened.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 20, 2019 03:16 PM (eAMlh)

148 globalism is good trade wars are bad china is good orange man is bad china will win trade war where is my iranian money thank you

Posted by: Failures, Plagiarists, and Catamites of America at January 20, 2019 03:17 PM (5aX2M)

149 My wife heard on the news this morning that those Kentucky kids were getting expelled from school. I watched the vids posted here earlier. Please tell me they are aren't being expelled.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:17 PM (IcJtd)

150
The Ivory Soap of steels!

Sure ... the steel's not as strong ... but it floats.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


Perfect for shipbuilding.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 03:18 PM (aKsyK)

151 123 Really well written article. Most writers fail to note that you can't believe the economic data released by the Chicoms.
Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:07 PM (IcJtd)
--------------------------------------
THIS.
Likewise with Cuba.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 20, 2019 03:18 PM (Rxduq)

152 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.

He got us a great deal on snow.
Posted by: Eskimos at January 20, 2019 03:13 PM (vfOIM)

ROTFL!

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 03:18 PM (bUjCl)

153 some giant Japan steel maker was also recently caught cheating on their steel standards.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:18 PM (Cus5s)

154 149
My wife heard on the news this morning that those Kentucky kids were
getting expelled from school. I watched the vids posted here earlier.
Please tell me they are aren't being expelled.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:17 PM (IcJtd)
The RC hierarchy of their school and the mayor of their town all came out that way this morning. May they all diaf.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 03:19 PM (14URa)

155 The Ivory Soap of steels!



Sure ... the steel's not as strong ... but it floats.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair



Perfect for shipbuilding.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 03:18 PM (aKsyK)
=====
That's why we went with it!!






















Posted by: Oakland Bridge Builders at January 20, 2019 03:19 PM (pw+jk)

156 Wow... right now, new NBC story also posted by MSN, perpetuating the LIES told about the Catholic school kids.

Pretty bad that even AFTER a story is debunked, they continue to lie.

Seems like that should be actionable.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 03:20 PM (NgKpN)

157 Well, those kids now have a lawyer and I hope they sue the pants off everyone involved.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 03:21 PM (dUJdY)

158 The only problem with sucking Chi-Com dick is you want to do it again an hour later.

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at January 20, 2019 03:22 PM (NWiLs)

159 Perfect Jewels! I loathe the scum that doxxed these kids yesterday.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:22 PM (IcJtd)

160 With the 5 blade shavers that Gillette put out, I found they got clogged fast because no matter how hard I tried to clean the slit between blades they always took some shaving debris.

-
The Schick that I use has a little trap door in the back that you open to allow the water to flow completely through the blades to clean them. Works pretty well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 03:23 PM (+y/Ru)

161 "The RC hierarchy of their school and the mayor of their town all came out that way this morning. May they all diaf."


Not so fast, while they might have fallen for the initial reports, the breaking news on Twitter is the high school may be taking legal action against the media outlets that pushed the story.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 03:23 PM (4thlk)

162 Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:16 PM (Cus5s)

Mercantalism was a fever dream for those obsessed with gold and silver like they are imbued with magic. The equivalent of people trying to tell you about the healing and detoxifying power of copper today.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 03:24 PM (gDSJf)

163 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Equate-Triple-Blade-Disposable-Razors-for-Men-Value-Pack-8-count/46309445

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 03:25 PM (dcu2m)

164 Is it just me, but it seems no government agency ever releases the "raw" data and the data correction factor currently in vogue.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 20, 2019 03:11 PM (f3oO4)


I'm not sure they even have real, raw data for most of the numbers. It's fabrications from beginning to end.

For a lot of stuff it's just bald-faced lying. When Barky slimed into office (in large part due to the oil price spike that kicked off the credit crisis) the MSM and financial centers slickly changed the "price of oil" from WTI (which had the highest at the time) to Brent crude, which immediately shaved about $20/bbl off oil when Barky slimed in. Like a miracle! And they never mentioned that they had changed the basis of "the price of oil" ... even when they pointed out historical peaks (which had been hit by the "other" oil and not the one they were currently talking about). Sneaky, sneaky ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 03:25 PM (U96rM)

165 Not so fast, while they might have fallen for the initial reports, the breaking news on Twitter is the high school may be taking legal action against the media outlets that pushed the story.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 03:23 PM (4thlk)

The 'hook' for current stories is however, that the school and mayor are 'investigating' the students.

Thus allowing the media to perpetuate the original lie.

Adults wait until they know the facts, before throwing children to the Lions.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 03:26 PM (NgKpN)

166 Wow... right now, new NBC story also posted by MSN, perpetuating the LIES told about the Catholic school kids.

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The basic problem with Big Bullshit is that they don't judge stories on a true/false basis but rather on a helpful/not helpful to the narrative basis.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 03:28 PM (+y/Ru)

167
Those of you on the East Coast in month 48 of a 48 month car battery may be a little disappointed tomorrow morning when single digit temperatures cause your battery to laugh at you.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 20, 2019 03:28 PM (jYje5)

168 1. China buy a trillion dollars worth of American made goods.
2. ?????
3. Trump loses trade war and Hillary becomes president.

Posted by: Sally Kohn at January 20, 2019 03:28 PM (pw+jk)

169 Well, those kids now have a lawyer and I hope they sue the pants off everyone involved.
Posted by: Jewells45


I can't prove it but I have a feeling that laws were broken. I think there are statues regarding the harrassment of minors.

This shit needs to be stopped hard and fast. Prosecuting the worst offenders needs to happen.

If not, this shit is going to get out of control and people are going to get hurt.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 20, 2019 03:29 PM (ZejZP)

170 China plays the long game"

Can we stop using that bovine scatology?

The inability to react isn't a "long game"

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:29 PM (6qErC)

171 Harumph, I might believe this if I saw evidence .... like China making a $1 Trillion trade concession.
Oh wait ... they did? Gee, I didn't see that in the media at all. Wonder why?

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at January 20, 2019 03:29 PM (7K9lw)

172 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 03:25 PM (U96rM)

IMO the entire 2008 economic hit, was caused by the Fed Res Bank and Treasury Dept.

There was no systemic weakness until they ADVERTISED the 'toxic assets'. They made people panic, which caused the economic downturn.

Note, not a single toxic asset was ever bought by the Government. They are STILL OUT THERE being traded.

They created a crises that led to Obama being elected...

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 03:29 PM (NgKpN)

173 "Adults wait until they know the facts, before throwing children to the Lions."

Isn't that like reading the content...before making the comments here at the HQ?

Never really caught on, that I could tell.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:30 PM (cqNba)

174 >
Adults wait until they know the facts, before throwing children to the Lions.
Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 03:26 PM (NgKpN)



Let's hope some actual adults relearned that this weekend. And as for the "adults" who live to form Twitter mobs against conservatives, they are immune to facts that don't support their narrative.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 20, 2019 03:30 PM (IcJtd)

175 Mercantalism was a fever dream for those obsessed with gold and silver like they are imbued with magic"

That's brilliant. I am so stealing that...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:30 PM (6qErC)

176 "China playing the long game?"
As in So Long Wong.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at January 20, 2019 03:31 PM (7K9lw)

177 "
I can't prove it but I have a feeling that laws were broken. I think there are statues regarding the harrassment of minors. "

I'm hoping that thy Griffen has to answer some tough accusations of illegal doxxing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:31 PM (cqNba)

178 The RC hierarchy of their school and the mayor of their town all came out that way this morning. May they all diaf.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 03:19 PM (14URa)

It occurs to me that the Left fears right wingers, alt-right whatevers, military vets, people like that. What they really need to be worried about is that generation of kids, who are growing up and maturing and being told left and right that they're evil and scum and their religion is for braindead peasants.

I'm 37-- wait. I'm 29 plus 8, and this stuff has gotten much worse since I was in school. These kids have to be steeped in it by now.

These kids are learning valuable lessons right now. Unfortunately, the biggest one is that if these people decide to skin you, you will be skinned and a lot of the people you thought you could trust will drop you like a hot brick. They will see; they will remember this.

I just got done reading Witold Pilecki's 1945 report about setting up and running the underground network inside Auschwitz. These guys did a lot of stuff that could get them horribly executed, even for tiny things. Why do it, then? Because when the penalty for *everything* is Horrible Death, you might as well just go ahead, because fuck it, why not?

No, I'm not saying these kids are like Holocaust victims or anything. I'm saying that when guilt and innocence and facts no longer matter, you might as well do whatever you want and whatever it takes to protect yourself because, in the words of the former secretary of state, "What difference does it make?"

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 03:31 PM (7PLM4)

179 So, was Big Chief Buddy Rich's activist buddy the one who supplied the video? If so, obvious setup.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 03:31 PM (dcu2m)

180 We have already made a new super big bag called "The Billy Kristol" and it is available for shipping today!!!

Posted by: Bag of Dicks Store at January 20, 2019 03:32 PM (pw+jk)

181 some giant Japan steel maker was also recently caught cheating on their steel standards

-------

I know a guy who's a metallurgist, and he does third party expert analysis for an American knife manufacturer that uses Japanese steel.

He said it's a good contract for him, since you have to check every batch because of the propensity to cheat. It's good steel as long as you can keep an eye on them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 03:32 PM (5aX2M)

182 and today Japan is in social and demographic trouble "

Oreally?

'Cause I don't really see a problem...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:32 PM (6qErC)

183 If we really wanted to hurt the Chinese, we would send an amphibious assault group on a goodwill tour of Africa and South East Asia, and have them visit every port that has one of the Chinese built Belt and Road debt-trap projects.

We can explain to our friendly hosts that we would be happy to guarantee their security while we are in port, and if there is anything they want to nationalize, we could ensure that they will not be subject to military bullying by any foreign power.

The Chi Coms would be booted out in a heartbeat!

Posted by: Gridlock at January 20, 2019 03:32 PM (/DLXk)

184 I would direct everyone to the very insightful current blog post on "The Chicago Boyz" site about PDT's strategy for the shutdown. It's so much more complicated than anyone has talked about. Do not stop at the article though. The comments section is just as interesting.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 03:34 PM (jm1YL)

185 Posted by: Gridlock at January 20, 2019 03:32 PM (/DLXk)

And the locals would respond, "Thanks, but I can find Ukraine on a map."

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 03:35 PM (7PLM4)

186 China plays the long game

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RBG plays the long game. A lot of Statue of Liberty plays.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 03:36 PM (+y/Ru)

187 The media never seems to suffer any consequences for deliberately destroying lives with their lies.
In this they didn't just damage something called the truth. They didn't just damage their credibility. (Actually I think credibility is far less important to the media than the agenda. )
They harmed specific people in specific ways and they don't care.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 20, 2019 03:36 PM (eAMlh)

188 If we are lucky, the PRC will annex North Korea for women.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 20, 2019 03:08 PM (c1sSU)


Russia has a lot more women than men. And a big border with no wall.

Just saying.

When that thing goes up, this business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 03:37 PM (ZfRYq)

189 your snark shows you have no clue what I'm
talking about, or what the "free trade" BS is based on. Mercantilism is
strategic trade based on what is beneficial to the nation state. Early
America traded ... America was mostly mercantilist till when??? post WW2
I guess.


Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:16 PM (Cus5s)


The US did not invoke mercantilism as the British did. They were forced to trade with British firms who paid them off in "goods" instead of gold which they needed to pay their taxes with. This is why smuggling was such a big deal in the early colonies. After the civil war started Lincoln was in favor of what is known as the American System. It had been blocked by the South who hated it. It favored high import taxes to be used to pay for improvements the North wanted. With the South no longer blocking it he implemented that. And we operated under that system until the income tax was passed. we still operate under it to some extent.
Search out "American System" using Bing.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 03:38 PM (mpXpK)

190 "Mercantalism was a fever dream for those obsessed
with gold and silver like they are imbued with magic. The equivalent of
people trying to tell you about the healing and detoxifying power of
copper today.Posted by: Sjg


the history of mercantilism involved gold, but that was currency. Trump is returning to America First, which was American policy till the "free traders" arrived and said only profits mattered, not how or where that profit was made.


America First style "mercantilism" (you brought up the word) ... is about returning to that pre-80's globalism adventure, in which we built China into a threat, and enriched a lot of globalists along the way.


"CEOs, stated in 1981 that 'the long term viability of the corporation
depends upon its responsibility to the society of which it is a part'

That view changed in the 1980's spurred on by Milton
Friedman and others affiliated with the 'Chicago school' of free market
economists who argued the 'only social responsibility of business is to
increase its profits'
https://tinyurl.com/ybfe7s4c

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:38 PM (Cus5s)

191 Open a naval base on Taiwan. China can't afford to defend it.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 03:38 PM (NYHMj)

192 Gateway Pundit has video this wasn't tomtom's first roundup

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 03:39 PM (/rm4P)

193 177 "
I can't prove it but I have a feeling that laws were broken. I think there are statues regarding the harrassment of minors. "

I'm hoping that thy Griffen has to answer some tough accusations of illegal doxxing.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:31 PM (cqNba)

Are we talking the supernaturally ugly Kathy Griffin of Trump beheading fame?

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 20, 2019 03:40 PM (eAMlh)

194 Raising TRICARE fees and Cutting Veterans Benefits to Slash Deficit

https://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=84276

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 03:40 PM (RU4sa)

195 China plays the long game

China plays the commie game.

The only long game the Chinese play is maintaining the power of the commie party and control over everything today.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 03:40 PM (U96rM)

196 this wasn't tomtom's first roundup"

So, crab dip?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:41 PM (6qErC)

197 Nonsense, everybody knows that, when Putin isn't pulling the marionette strings, Trump is the Chinese dictator's bitch. /

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2019 03:41 PM (WqPYg)

198 I just got done reading Witold Pilecki's 1945 report
about setting up and running the underground network inside Auschwitz.
These guys did a lot of stuff that could get them horribly executed,
even for tiny things. Why do it, then? Because when the penalty for
*everything* is Horrible Death, you might as well just go ahead, because
fuck it, why not?

Posted by: Vanya
----
It was my privilege to go to hs with a kid whose parents were inmates at Auschwitz. They'd talk to us all the time about their experiences. Over the years, someone asked that very question: how could you fight back knowing if the goons found out, they'd kill you.

Mr T.'s response was something along the lines of what you mentioned: I was already dead anyway. What were they going to do to me? Shave my head and throw me in Auschwitz?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 03:43 PM (9rIkM)

199 Raising TRICARE fees and Cutting Veterans Benefits to Slash Deficit "

The dim plan for... pretty much everything.

Not gonna happen.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:43 PM (6qErC)

200 When that thing goes up, this business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 03:37 PM (ZfRYq)

Lots of Mountains on that border. Logistics would be tough. Very few roads or rail lines.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 03:44 PM (NgKpN)

201 61 43
25; Peaches, that's what I was thinking. What are they shaving? One blade would last all year.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:41 PM (KP5rU)
I have, like, 12 hairs on my legs. A Mach3 lasts me a couple years. Bought some generic ones from Walmart and they SUCK. The real ones were only about a dollar more. I will be buying them. But, my toxic masculinity is not really an issue at my age.
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:45 PM (14URa)


Sounds like you may owe a few years of back Pink Tax.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2019 03:45 PM (di1hb)

202 194 Raising TRICARE fees and Cutting Veterans Benefits to Slash Deficit
https://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=84276
Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 03:40 PM (RU4sa)
-----------------------------
Hey, somebody has to pay for all of the freebies we hand out to illegals!

BTW, your hash is suspicious. Russsssssia!!!!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 20, 2019 03:46 PM (Rxduq)

203 "Are we talking the supernaturally ugly Kathy Griffin of Trump beheading fame?"

Yes


Auto-cucumber is out of control

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:46 PM (cqNba)

204
I would direct everyone to the very insightful current blog post on "The
Chicago Boyz" site about PDT's strategy for the shutdown. It's so much
more complicated than anyone has talked about. Do not stop at the
article though. The comments section is just as interesting.

Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 03:34 PM (jm1YL)

======
Very interesting. It is almost like Trump has negotiated once or twice before.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 03:46 PM (pw+jk)

205 "Finally, the CBO said the federal government could raise revenue by including VA disability payments as taxable income. According to the CBO, if all disability payments were to be taxed, federal revenues during the time frame would increase by $93 billion."

https://tinyurl.com/ybrjghfo

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (RU4sa)

206 Sounds like you may owe a few years of back Pink Tax.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at January 20, 2019 03:45 PM (di1hb)
Hah, get in line. I had to buy a new Mac last weekend and, in this lovely weather, my craptastic heat system has been running non-stop. Although, I've been thanking God all day that I didn't lose power yesterday. Had a plan to take every pillow and blanket I own and create a nest for me and the FOs in the walk-in closet in my bedroom. Super grateful it did not come to that.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (14URa)

207 "The US did not invoke mercantilism as the British did. They were forced
to trade with British firms who paid them off in "goods" instead of gold
which they needed to pay their taxes with. This is why smuggling was
such a big deal in the early colonies" Vic

thanks Vic. yeah "mercantilism" is not the best way to describe "America First" maybe, but using US leverage in economic wars has always been part oft he package. Wikipedia describes mercantilism just as the "economic policy of a nation designed to maximize exports". I haven't really studied the whole thang ... but that would seem to be the point of the Brits collecting in gold, but "paying" in goods. It maximized their exports.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (Cus5s)

208 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:46 PM (cqNba)

She looks like Carrot Top after three years of estrogen

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (7PLM4)

209 184 I would direct everyone to the very insightful current blog post on "The Chicago Boyz" site about PDT's strategy for the shutdown. It's so much more complicated than anyone has talked about. Do not stop at the article though. The comments section is just as interesting.
Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 03:34 PM (jm1YL)


Great tip. Thanks.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (if8r4)

210 BTW, your hash is suspicious. Russsssssia!!!!!!!

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Yeah, I noticed that a while back.

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 03:48 PM (RU4sa)

211 We use to have a base in Taiwan...

Posted by: lin-duh at January 20, 2019 03:48 PM (kufk0)

212 Since it wasn't his first rodeo I would highly suspect a set up with camera crew involved and ready for first posting

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 03:48 PM (/rm4P)

213 Very interesting. It is almost like Trump has negotiated once or twice before."

Huh.

Wonder if he ever wrote any of this down. Like in a book or something...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:48 PM (6qErC)

214 199 Raising TRICARE fees and Cutting Veterans Benefits to Slash Deficit "

The dim plan for... pretty much everything.

Not gonna happen.
Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:43 PM (6qErC)

Lawsuits would come hot and heavy.

We were specifically told that one reenlistment incentive was FREE Medical care upon retirement.

But hey, apparently its more important to give Illegals free health care and education, than to keep your promises to Veterans.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 03:49 PM (NgKpN)

215 all disability payments were to be taxed, federal revenues during the time frame would increase"

Ok, that's funny right there.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:50 PM (6qErC)

216 182
and today Japan is in social and demographic trouble "



Oreally?



'Cause I don't really see a problem...

Posted by: Anon a mous


You may not, but the Japanese certainly do. They are well aware that an elderly society is not a dynamic society. There's a reason they're investing heavily in robotics for the elderly.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 03:51 PM (T6t7i)

217 Because when the penalty for
*everything* is Horrible Death, you might as well just go ahead, because
fuck it, why not?
-------
In The Cartoon History of the Universe, there's this conversation about the outbreak of rebellion under the Chin Emperors:

Recruit: What's the penalty for being late?
Sergeant: Death.
Recruit: What's the penalty for rebellion?
Sergeant: Death.
Recruit: Well, guess what? We're late!

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 03:51 PM (Hx3Yn)

218 Fire damages C-SPAN, FOX, MSNBC studios in DC... Developing...

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Apparently, a single fire at a single location where they share studios. No word as to whether they have separate but equal bathroom facilities for Fox employees.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 03:51 PM (+y/Ru)

219 Smithfield is owned by the Chinese.

***********


Chicoms Infiltrate American-owned Businesses - a limerick

Watch out for those East Asian feckers
They are devious economy wreckers
I heard their latest target
Is our local supermarket
Staffed entirely with Chinese checkers

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 03:52 PM (m45I2)

220 China steals other peoples' intellectual property!

Not that there's anything wong with that.

Posted by: Ace of Goldberg, Eponymous Crank at January 20, 2019 03:52 PM (Ndje9)

221 but the Japanese certainly do."

They're simply dealing with their economy as they see fit. The only "hair on fire" bit is from the west.

Especially since they're not importing "labor"...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:53 PM (6qErC)

222 Raising TRICARE fees and Cutting Veterans Benefits to Slash Deficit "



The dim plan for... pretty much everything.



Not gonna happen.


Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:43 PM

---

It's already happened. We will have to pay an annual premium now for Tricare standard starting in 2021 unless Congress turns it off. The increase is on automatic pilot.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at January 20, 2019 03:54 PM (JUOKG)

223 You may not, but the Japanese certainly do. They are
well aware that an elderly society is not a dynamic society. There's a
reason they're investing heavily in robotics for the elderly.


Posted by: pep


Try this link:https://tinyurl.com/yb9wovyl

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 03:54 PM (T6t7i)

224 Nonsense, everybody knows that, when Putin isn't pulling the marionette strings, Trump is the Chinese dictator's bitch. /
Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2019 03:41 PM



EM MAHJONG FOADDY-FI!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' wig at January 20, 2019 03:54 PM (786Ro)

225 When we irredeemable deplorables seize the country we can just make peace with the chi-coms by shipping them liberal feminists. A few, OK OK several, months in a labor camp for the triggly puffs and some serious propaganda by their leaders that the superior Asian genes will dominate and they can placate their young men. *And a good slice of our liberal feminists are in the "I am superior because I'm skinny as well as a compassionate liberal" and would not even need labor camp to lose blubber before being married off. They shouldn't even mind since they would be advancing the communists who will someday create utopia.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 20, 2019 03:55 PM (jUcoH)

226 It is almost like Trump has negotiated once or twice before."

Huh.

Wonder if he ever wrote any of this down. Like in a book or something...

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You magnificent bastard! I read your book!

- George Patton

You bastard! I didn't read your book!

- Nanzi

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 03:56 PM (+y/Ru)

227 Try this link:https://tinyurl.com/yb9wovyl"

Yeah, no. Another brit telling the world what to do...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at January 20, 2019 03:57 PM (6qErC)

228 Nood. Ace is working.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 20, 2019 03:58 PM (Dhht7)

229 History has proven that command economies always fail. The Chinese seem a lot better about hiding their economic failure than the Soviets, although I have never been to China.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2019 04:00 PM (EZebt)

230 Rep. John Yarmuth (D) Kentucky, is calling for a ban on teenagers wearing MAGA hats because of the fake video.

I shit you not. A ban.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 04:00 PM (/tuJf)

231 207 thanks Vic. yeah "mercantilism" is not the best way
to describe "America First" maybe, but using US leverage in economic
wars has always been part oft he package. Wikipedia describes
mercantilism just as the "economic policy of a nation designed to
maximize exports". I haven't really studied the whole thang ... but that
would seem to be the point of the Brits collecting in gold, but
"paying" in goods. It maximized their exports.


Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (Cus5s)

You can't really trust Wiki on anything remotely political. The British form of mercantilism designed their foreign and trade policy around favoring "industries' they liked and who supported them politically. One example was the India based tea companies.


So the public got to pay higher prices for goods from the favored companies who made huge profits.

In the American system importers of foreign hardware products had to pay higher prices for those goods or the ones made in the North who were protected. This was a major sore point with the agricultural based South and what produced the term "tariffs of abomination" which sparked the Nullification Crisis in the mid 1800s.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

232
It's already happened. We will have to pay an annual premium now for Tricare standard starting in 2021 unless Congress turns it off. The increase is on automatic pilot.

Medicare for all. Keep your Dr. Save $2,500 per year. I'll even teach you how to Twitter and Fa☭ebook.

Posted by: Alexandria Occasional Cortex at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (jYje5)

233 Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 03:38 PM (Cus5s)

Nothing of what our current economic policies, under Trump or anyone else resembles mercantalism in any way. Mercantalism wasn't nation building, it was amassing fortunes for the monarchies by turning their population into serfs. Pressing subjects into service to export goods and ship currency back to the country. The little amounts of imports allowed were mostly exclusive to the aristocracy.

What mercantalism does resemble, is the modern day socialist autocracies like China, Venezuela, Cuba. It's is not a policy for building nation states, it is one that rots them and deprives their subjects of material comforts in life.

Trade deficits are misunderstood as something inherently bad because the media uses them to bludgeon Republican presidents and their readers are conditioned to think deficit = bad, surplus = good. Wealth of Nations was a hard refutation of mercantalism because Smith demonstrated that trade is intuitively mutually beneficial for both parties, there isn't a winner and a loser absent fraud. In the event that either party would be disadvantaged by trade occuring, no trade would occur.

China has accumulated lots of US dollars from decades of exports and very little imports. Sitting on those dollars doesn't do much for them, eventually most of those dollars will go into buying American goods or reinvesting into American businesses.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 04:06 PM (gDSJf)

234 227
Try this link:https://tinyurl.com/yb9wovyl"



Yeah, no. Another brit telling the world what to do...

Posted by: Anon a mouse


Whatever, dude.

Posted by: pep at January 20, 2019 04:06 PM (T6t7i)

235 184 I would direct everyone to the very insightful current blog post on "The Chicago Boyz" site about PDT's strategy for the shutdown. It's so much more complicated than anyone has talked about. Do not stop at the article though. The comments section is just as interesting.
Posted by: Tuna at January 20, 2019 03:34 PM (jm1YL)

Great tip! Thank you. Very interesting.

Posted by: Iris at January 20, 2019 04:12 PM (6lKe4)

236 This was a major sore point with the agricultural based South and what produced the term "tariffs of abomination" which sparked the Nullification Crisis in the mid 1800s.
Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

Especially important to the South because their agriculture economy was export heavy to Europe, and so tariffs on European goods directly reduced the South's wealth by reducing the volume of goods they could get in exchange for their cotton and tobacco.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 04:15 PM (gDSJf)

237 You know who didn't have the one child policy? Taiwan. They're going to be like Mexicans doing the jobs Chinese didn't do. Like replacing population.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 20, 2019 04:21 PM (z2W2E)

238 "The British form of mercantilism designed their foreign and trade policy
around favoring 'industries' they liked and who supported them
politically." vic

that partly sounds like America First, except the part where they used slaves for their tea products, and basically forced America to buy it. This article may interest you Vic ... on the subject of the colonialists ... addresses your intolerable acts ... and more. and on their mercantilism ... (thought they favor "fair trade balance" to combat the China mercantilism)

"This boosted wages for Englishmen and multiplied the number of
individuals working in 'cutting edge' industries like textile mills.
Thus, tariffs -- mercantilism -- fertilized the soil in which the Industrial
Revolution sprouted."

https://tinyurl.com/yctwbexv

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (Cus5s)

239 >>> "Finally, the CBO said the federal government could raise revenue by including VA disability payments as taxable income. According to the CBO, if all disability payments were to be taxed, federal revenues during the time frame would increase by $93 billion."

https://tinyurl.com/ybrjghfo

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (RU4sa)
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Either put Congress on Tri-Care or put us on Congress-Care; their call.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2019 04:30 PM (ePWRo)

240 I take a look at Drudge just about everyday, seeing what's the stupidest news tidbit they're pimping. Today has a world wide survey saying globalism is the way to go. 10,000 people out of the worlds masses were surveyed. Out of the billions, that should give us the pulse of the people, providing they contacted the Sami in north Finland and the starving pygmies in New Guinea.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 20, 2019 04:36 PM (xzqr4)

241 "China has accumulated lots of US dollars from decades of exports and
very little imports. Sitting on those dollars doesn't do much for them,
eventually most of those dollars will go into buying American goods or
reinvesting into American businesses."

thx for the better explanation, but as my first link showed, China does not just sit on those dollars and wait to put them back in some magical global trade balance.


They buy assets, including our debt on which we must then pay them interest. Even worse when they come to America and buy up our industries, or our real estate. (I know that didn't work out well for the Japanese in the 80's, but it may not be the same now).


The other link with Bannon shows they have a plan to build out their own trade routes, and are buying up resources around the world. None of that is part of "balanced trade" and it does not magically balance out in the end.

"Nation Building" ... well, it can build nations, even if the people become serfs. But it could also bring back jobs, if done with a different government ... all "capitalism" mostly served the wealthy historically ... it is our liberty and justice for all government that made the difference. (till globalism and 2Big2Fail/Jail bailouts)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 04:46 PM (Cus5s)

242 Thought we had moved to the new thread, so it here it is again:
Recent discussions on free trade and mercantilism are off the mark, IMHO.

The current issue is that the US has done several things (or allowed them to happen) over the last few decades that have pushed jobs abroad, especially in manufacturing.

High US corporate tax rates is but one of many examples. So the recent cut from a 35% rack rate to 20% was a Jobs Bill, you see. (Only industrials paid rack rate, you see).

Classic economic theory assumes that we're each a selfish Nietzchean monad. But it's in my interest that a guy in Indiana has a job to pay into our Welfare State rather than being a meth head burden.

And we've enabled China to be a global trade leech in so many ways, at the expense of our own. In theory, and even more so in practice.

And no one used to talk about it. Except in elite rags to say that flyover Deplorables should just fuck off and die already.

Until Trump saw his political opening. Miles of undeveloped beach front property that had been left abandoned by smart politicians.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 04:49 PM (1UZdv)

243 China has accumulated lots of US dollars from decades of exports and very little imports. Sitting on those dollars doesn't do much for them, eventually most of those dollars will go into buying American goods or reinvesting into American businesses.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 04:06 PM (gDSJf)


Gee .. that sounds so nice and innocuous. If only ownership were totally meaningless ... "they're just dollars ... nameless, faceless, ownerless dollars .... they're all coming back!"

I mean, really.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at January 20, 2019 04:55 PM (U96rM)

244 98
93 Trump got the Chinese to buy rice from the US.



We're selling coal in Newcastle!

Posted by: Grump928(C) reminds you at January 20, 2019 02:56 PM (yQpMk)



Next on Trump's trade agenda:



Ice to Eskimos



Sand to Arabs



Tentacle Hentai to Japan

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:59 PM (Ct55T)

OMG!

The hate, the hate.

Posted by: Leftist scolds at January 20, 2019 07:26 PM (sy5kK)

Anatomy of a Narrative

Yesterday (unexpectedly!), Twitter exploded into paroxysms of rage. We were presented with a video (below), that showed a group of white teenagers in MAGA hats who, it's reported, surrounded a native American Vietnam vet (suddenly the left cares about vets) and mocked him (That's from WaPo, but I can't link it because of their paywall). The NYT called the kids a “mob” (Story), while USA Today screamed about “Blatant racism. They all talked about the smug white kids getting in the face of the poor, peaceful native American who was innocently taking part in the Indigenous Peoples March.

Indian.jpg

So let's unpack this.

Here is the video that was initially widely shared on social media:


I'll admit, when I initially saw just this video, I wondered “Gee, why are they harassing that man? That seems rude and way out of line”. Remember, it was presented as these kids “surrounding” and “taunting” the man. Twitter agreed. Left wing Twitter was in free-fall, melting down about “racism” and “bigotry” and exploding, as I said above, into paroxysms of rage. There were demands that these kids be doxed (and typically, the first widespread doxing attempt targeted the wrong guy completely. Some poor schlub who was attending his brother's wedding suddenly had his social media explode with calls for his head on a pike), expelled, prevented from going to college, put on blacklists for employment, etc, etc. (Whoever said that the left has managed to recreate Maoism without Mao was dead in the black) That's to be expected, but a good chunk of right wing twitter was joining the chorus. I saw numerous twitter accounts from people (including some who post here) I know to be normally thoughtful and prudent conservatives leaping into the fray and savaging these kids. I saw no doxing calls, and most at least prefaced their condemnations with some variation of “they're just kids”, but the mob was in full howl. * I * was prepared to join them, at least in spirit, but here's the thing. I don't trust the media. Any of it. 95% or more of what's presented in the media is designed to emotionally manipulate you into an unthinking reaction. So I waited, and lo and behold, the story started to come out.


Backstory

Who were these kids? Well, as it turns out, they were a group of kids from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky, in town for the March for Life. They had been told to meet on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial by 5:30 to catch their buses home. They were in high spirits, roughhousing and catcalling each other and chanting school cheers. Unfortunately for them, also at the Lincoln Memorial was a group of leftist grievance groups, gathering for the Indigenous Peoples March. Among these groups was Phillips (the native American with the drum) and Shar Yaqataz Banyamyan, who is a “Secured Party Hebrew Israelite American National, of the Tribe of Benjamin “ (That's from his Facebook page).

So, to set the stage: Here on the steps we have a boisterous group of mostly white, Catholic high school boys, roughhousing and chanting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. Over there we have the leftists activists, including Mrs Phillips and Banyamyan. We are told that the boys (mob), proceeded to surround Mr. Phillips, who was innocently drumming, “taunting” and “intimidating” him and shouting “racist” phrases including “Build the wall!”. We are given the above video to prove this point (although I've watched hours of film of the incident and haven't heard “build the wall” once) That would be pretty despicable behavior, if true. But see, here's the thing. In this age of cell phones, it's not just one person who has a television studio in their pocket, it's everybody. And with everybody filming, it's now nigh impossible for any one piece of film, however edited or tightly framed, to carry the narrative. Set it, sure, see the above clip, but carry it? No. Lets look at the scene from another angle.


Well now, isn't that interesting. As we can see, the Covington kids were dancing and chanting when Mr. Phillips decided to march into their circle. In fact, once you have that context, the entire first clip takes on a different light. Suddenly what we see is a bunch of exuberant kids and “Hey, look here, this drum guy is coming to join us! Yaaaaah!”. You can say that the tomahawk chops were “culturally insensitive”, and I'll give that to you using the standards of hyper-PC culture that the left is demanding, but really, if that's all “racism” is now, haven't we pretty much solved that problem?

To my mind, we now have a totally different situation than the narrative we were spoon fed. Could the kids have been better behaved? I suppose so, but I don't see them doing anything wrong, and in the full video below they show remarkable restraint when Mr. Benyamyan get into it (at one point he yells to the kids “You president is a homosexual!” and several shout back “Who cares?” Just another example of the rampant homophobia on the right donchakno).

Ahh, yes, Mr. Benyamyan. Why did I bring him up in the first place? Well, Mr. Benyamyan did us the service of filming his entire day protesting. He took it down once it was discovered that his film pretty much destroyed the narrative, but the internet, bless its black little heart, is forever. If you have a couple of hours, you can watch the entire event play out,


The part with the Indian and the kids starts shortly after 1:10, and if you watch for 20 minutes or so, you'll see Mr. Benyamyan shouting quite a number of racist and homophobic slurs at the kids. I will confess that I fast forwarded through the first hour of the film, so I'm making no claims on what occurred during that part, so if there's something earth shattering that I missed please tell me, but I've been investigating this for a couple of hours today and I've seen no references to anything.

So there you have it. A perfect case illustrating exactly how the media manipulates a story to push a preferred narrative. The conclusions I've presented here are my own, based upon the available evidence which I've presented above, feel free to draw your own. If you have a compelling counter argument (with evidence), please present it below. There's a lot more information available out there, particularly on Twitter (like statements from the students themselves and a (predictable) knee-jerk condemnation of the kids from the Diocese of Covington ), go see for yourself. Never, ever, ever believe what the media tells you to believe without checking into it personally.

Posted by: WeirdDave at 01:23 PM




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1 This right on the heels of the Buzzfeed stupid lie story is making people question their trust in news reports, I've seen a lot of buzz on this on social media. How long that will last, we'll see but its at least making some people stop and think.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 01:25 PM (39g3+)

2 How do you know the MFM is lying? Their lips are moving.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

3 Dave,

Did you see Scott Adams apologize for his position taken yesterday?

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (cqNba)

4 Gell-Mann effect writ large. That should be part of the internet lexicon

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 01:29 PM (39g3+)

5 Amy Coney Barrett cannot be on the SCOTUS because white Catholic boys.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 20, 2019 01:32 PM (wFDuq)

6 My people used every part of the narrative.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 01:33 PM (t+qrx)

7 Dave,



Did you see Scott Adams apologize for his position taken yesterday?



https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays

I've been watching hours of video putting this post together, I don't feel like watching a 45 minute video right now. I'll take it at face value, thanks for linking.

Posted by: Weirddave at January 20, 2019 01:34 PM (uE5Lu)

8 >>Never, ever, ever believe what the media tells you to believe without checking into it personally.

About anything.

By the way there are pictures floating around showing the mostly peaceful Indian at other protests including the pipeline.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 01:34 PM (/tuJf)

9 Thanks, WeirdDave. This really needs to be broadcast far and wide. Sadly, the morons of Covington, KY have already jumped on the "bad kids" bandwagon.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 01:34 PM (14URa)

10 Doesn't the 8 year old banging on his drum have better things to do?

The kid should have told him to go home and wash his ass.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 01:34 PM (Z+IKu)

11
Doesn't make a difference. They're still guilty:

Count 1: Catholic
Count 2: Boys
Count 3: White
Count 4: Taking part in a pro-life March

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2019 01:36 PM (LsBY9)

12 BTW, I'm leaving my sidebar link up because it goes to a different source who reaches the same #FakeNews conclusion.

Posted by: ArthurK at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (koV/4)

13 " I'll take it at face value, thanks for linking."

No...thank you.

You did a wonderful job with pulling this all together.

All fact.
No hype.

Don't be surprised if several friends in real world get a link to this thread.

Thanks for doing this.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (cqNba)

14 LOL at "--your Pres is a homo! --Who cares?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (Ct55T)

15
I watched about 10 minutes before the Native American approached them to about 10 minutes after. If the kid is smirking it's because all of these weird fvcks that approached them.

I would have been laughing at them too. Normal people think strange people are strange, and kinda humorous too.

And Shar Yaqataz Banyamyan? I don't think they come any stranger. Batshit crazy isn't even half of his issues.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (jYje5)

16 I watched this whole video and the black guys are unbelievable. But the worst part are the concerted efforts to isolate and intimidate the Catholic kids.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (Z216Q)

17 Excellent post, WeirdDave.

Ctrl+C

Ctrl+V

Coincidentally, I have a great new article just like this one up at National Review.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (tVQUs)

18 WeirdDave, if you skip the first part you miss Mr. Benyamyan shouting racist slurs at the Native Americans, calling them lice-infested savages and saying God allowed their land to be taken away because they were animist heathens.

It was hard to know who to dislike more in this video.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (kQs4Y)

19
When was the last time there was an MSM story discreditable to a Leftist that later turned out to be completely wrong?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2019 01:38 PM (LsBY9)

20 All We Are Saying Is Give Peace a Chance.

What a SWEETIE: Blue check nobody asks his 'fans' to take video of themselves assaulting Covington kid

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Well, isn't that special?

https://bit.ly/2CwNDoz

And the beautiful and charming Kathy Griffin also asks people to harass the Catholic kids.

https://bit.ly/2U2BFKf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 01:38 PM (+y/Ru)

21 Another case of Munchhausen Outrage by Proxy.

Seems that it was not the Blacks or Native Americans THERE who started this outrage, but others who were NOT EVEN THERE.

They then misconstrued events to create a narrative of outrage, thus gaining attention BY being outraged.

Note, Munchausen syndrome is recognized as a form of Insanity.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 01:39 PM (NgKpN)

22

Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee-Jerk Reaction (in 3-D)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2019 01:39 PM (/9p9e)

23 Another case of Munchhausen Outrage by Proxy.
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Excellent.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 01:39 PM (kQs4Y)

24 Who cares if they video was deceptive?


The kids are evil.

The agitators are warriors of righteousness. Right side of history and all that.

Who gives a shit about a couple minutes of video, when the Truth is already known?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Ct55T)

25 None of these kids will be accepted to college from Covington HS after this. Any of them who want to go will have to transfer out to another HS and then wait until this is completely forgotten.

Someone in the admissions department will be looking for that name. Hell, I bet kids with nothing to do with this will have applications in the circular file at preferred schools just for going there.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (5aX2M)

26 Da News MEDIA, A.K.A." those MotherFakers".

Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (cCxiu)

27 Amy Barrett once told me not to get an abortion. How dare she impose her extreme Catholic views on my body!!1!!!!




Posted by: Susan Parker-Goodhart at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (SFreT)

28 It was hard to know who to dislike more in this video.
He was an equal opportunity offender. He insulted everyone who walked past, without regard to color, religion, national origin (they got in an argument at one point with some chick from Guatemala) and sexual identity (they hate gay people with a total passion).

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Z216Q)

29 We wouldn't lie so much if the truth were more helpful to our cause.

Posted by: The MFM at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (/D1gp)

30 It's all about the Benyamyans.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (aKsyK)

31 I did laff when Benyanmyan called one of the Native American guys an Uncle Tomahawk.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (kQs4Y)

32 "Secured Party Hebrew Israelite American National"

Are they the ones who make the hot dogs? Those are damned good hot dogs.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 01:41 PM (t+qrx)

33 Someone in the admissions department will be looking for that name. Hell, I bet kids with nothing to do with this will have applications in the circular file at preferred schools just for going there.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (5aX2M)

Bet they can get in Missouri.

Posted by: golfman at January 20, 2019 01:41 PM (GL/05)

34
Conservative "does something bad": "conservative" commenters denounce.

Progressive does something bad: progressive commenters appaud and attack critics.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2019 01:42 PM (LsBY9)

35
Note, Munchausen syndrome is recognized as a form of Insanity.
Posted by: Don Q


Today it is. What about tomorrow?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 01:42 PM (aKsyK)

36 Coincidentally, I have a great new article just like this one up at National Review.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (tVQUs)

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heh. what's a little plagiarism among former friends.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (Z216Q)

37 WeirdDave, if you skip the first part you miss Mr. Benyamyan shouting racist slurs at the Native Americans, calling them lice-infested savages and saying God allowed their land to be taken away because they were animist heathens.

It was hard to know who to dislike more in this video.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM


I heard that too, and couldn't figure out what the hell Shar Yaqataz Banyamyan was getting on about. He's way short of a full deck. No wonder these kids were laughing.

Their worst sin -- in the eyes of the left -- is perhaps not acting somber enough in the presence of not-normal people.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (jYje5)

38
None of those Catholic boys was going to get into Harvard anyway.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (LsBY9)

39 #17
Wins the intertubes

Posted by: GeneTheHappy at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (F5hNR)

40 What the media does and says in promoting a narrative is 99/100 false.

One can reliably says the media is lying out the gate and be correct almost every, if not every, single time.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (pw+jk)

41 14 LOL at "--your Pres is a homo! --Who cares?"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (Ct55T)


If so, it's with the very best beard ever.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (if8r4)

42 Good for Scott Adams. At least he admits when he's wrong. Some time he equivocates a bit too much but, by and large, he's right on target.

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (7ZQe3)

43 The media are disgusting. I don't believe anything they print or broadcast anymore. I've been a news junkie for decades but I've turned it off and read the Foreign presses and select websites. The process of destroying this kid is happening now. He sent his local TV station the video and pleaded with them to run the truth but they refrained and stuck with the original story. This could happen to any of our kids. Beyond sickening.

Posted by: StellasTwoCents at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (Z0huu)

44 35
Note, Munchausen syndrome is recognized as a form of Insanity.
Posted by: Don Q

Today it is. What about tomorrow?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 01:42 PM (aKsyK)

Good point! We need to look at that!

Posted by: APA at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (NgKpN)

45 The drummer is getting the drumstick way too close to the lad's face and eyes.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:43 PM (eJj1Q)

46 Another case of Munchhausen Outrage by Proxy.

So stealing that, DonQ!!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (14URa)

47 These kids are gonna get hurt.

In real life.

They are in danger.


https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1086932616392011776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (cqNba)

48 Humans aren't indigenous to North America. Some.....got here first.

Posted by: OldGrunt at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (08p2t)

49 Not sure how all of this helps my Yankees?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (Y+V3r)

50 tying in to downstairs' theme:

Rank and file feel-good Jon Stewart lefties on Main Street are slowly but surely coming around to the realization that they're being lumped in with the crazies and mental defectives.

It's not a tidal wave, but a steady build-up of pressure.

Professional Leftists buy into the insanity whole hog.

Joe Six-Pack-of-Dannon-Yogurt is just trying to feel good about supporting the "good guys".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (Ct55T)

51 I did laff when Benyanmyan called one of the Native American guys an Uncle Tomahawk.

Me too; that one was pretty nuts.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (Z216Q)

52 48 Humans aren't indigenous to North America. Some.....got here first.
Posted by: OldGrunt at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (08p2t)



I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (/9p9e)

53 Why would it be despicable for the kids to chant Build the Wall?

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (ZfRYq)

54 These kids are gonna get hurt.

In real life.

They are in danger.


https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1086932616392011776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (cqNba)

I smell a law suit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (Y+V3r)

55 49 Not sure how all of this helps my Yankees?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM (Y+V3r)


Banditos Yanquis?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (/9p9e)

56 21 Another case of Munchhausen Outrage by Proxy.

Seems that it was not the Blacks or Native Americans THERE who started this outrage, but others who were NOT EVEN THERE.

They then misconstrued events to create a narrative of outrage, thus gaining attention BY being outraged.

Note, Munchausen syndrome is recognized as a form of Insanity.
Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 01:39 PM (NgKpN)


Angela Davis: "The Party doesn't care about the issue. The issue is merely a vehicle for agitation."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (if8r4)

57 Who's all rooting for the Chefs today?

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (7ZQe3)

58 Never, ever, ever believe what the media tells you to believe without checking into it personally.


======


Fixed. I don't believe anything a known pathological liar says, even if it turns out to be true. They've destroyed their own credibility -- and that's on them, not us.

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (WqPYg)

59 Stupid Fox ran with it on their crawler all day.. Prominently mentioning the MAGA hat and Catholic aspect

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (O2RFr)

60 We are seeing "The Lottery play out in real life. This teenage boy was chosen to be the one figuratively stoned and to have his normal life destroyed forever. That our media is complicit in the modern day SJW Outrage Lottery is unconscionable. Seeing fellow "conservatives" grab stones and join the howling mob is sadly revealing about who they always were.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at January 20, 2019 01:47 PM (d9Cw3)

61 54 These kids are gonna get hurt.

In real life.

They are in danger.


https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1086932616392011776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (cqNba)

I smell a law suit

A Lawyer has offered to represent them for free against the libel

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:47 PM (O2RFr)

62 My first reaction to anything coming from the Media is skepticism. They've been propagandists so long they probably couldn't tell a straight story if they wanted to--and it's clear they don't want to.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm's PayPal at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (l9m7l)

63 There is literally not one single channel or program on television that could be considered "news" anymore.

(Unless you're streaming OANN to Chromecast on your TV....)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (Ct55T)

64 Prominently mentioning the MAGA hat and Catholic aspect

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (O2RFr)

======
RBG is dead. All of this is battle space prep for the SCOTUS brawl.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (pw+jk)

65 46 Another case of Munchhausen Outrage by Proxy.

So stealing that, DonQ!!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (14URa)

Feel free... spread it around...

It really is an accurate representation of what a LOT of Virtue Signalers are doing.


They get attention, and thus a hit of Serotonin, when they express the correct PC outrage.


All while sitting in the safety of their little bubble.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (NgKpN)

66 My 8th grader is in DC the weekend for their class trip. We're from the red part of IL so half the kids bought MAGA hats cuz that's probably the edgeist thing a teenager can do now. They had to leave the MKL memorial due to verbal harassment from protesters.

Posted by: Dick"I'm a Dick" Durbin at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (oJvzj)

67 >>I heard that too, and couldn't figure out what the hell Shar Yaqataz Banyamyan was getting on about. He's way short of a full deck. No wonder these kids were laughing.

He's one of those who believe that blacks are the real Jews or some such crazy. And they love to rant in public.

Basically crazy as a shithouse rat.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (/tuJf)

68 The worst thing is their school and diocese immediately criticized them, and even the mayor of their town wrote an op-ed against them. And you just know all those responsible, important people will be very slow to climb down and apologize to these boys. Like, it won't happen.

This is a disaster. And Fake News proved beyond any shadow of doubt with this story exactly what being "an enemy of the people" means.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (Z216Q)

69 57
Who's all rooting for the Chefs today?

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (7ZQe3)
As a Pats fan all my life, I will not be either surprised or heartbroken to see Mahomes and crew win this thing. They've been my cinderella team all season. Gonna be a great game. And whoever wins this one really, really needs to win the SB.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (14URa)

70 59 Stupid Fox ran with it on their crawler all day.. Prominently mentioning the MAGA hat and Catholic aspect
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (O2RFr)


The boys should've said that they were Muslim, and illegal aliens. Maybe bi-curious too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (if8r4)

71 Banditos Yanquis?
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Beisbol been bery, bery good to me.

Posted by: Manny Mota at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (Hx3Yn)

72 A Catholic teenager peacefully exercises his First Amendment rights. He is now a target from the bullying and violent left.

Fuck this. All Democrats hate me and hate America.

War.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (EwLjS)

73 Conservatism, Inc. has not covered itself in glory on this one.

Posted by: bates at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (SFreT)

74
A Lawyer has offered to represent them for free against the libel
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:47 PM (O2RFr)

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Good. And good PR. If I were in his area, I'd look into doing business with him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (5aX2M)

75 Fuck this. All Democrats hate me and hate America.

War.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (EwLjS)

Amen

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:50 PM (Y+V3r)

76 I love how somehow, saying make America Great, is now RAAAAACIST!

Whut? American is a RACE now?

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 01:50 PM (NgKpN)

77
I smell a law suit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:45 PM


No, that's Kathy Griffins 'everyday' suit. She gets it washed every year whether it needs it or not.

Seriously, she's certifiably deranged. Why doesn't her family have a mental assessment of her taken for her own protection?

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:50 PM (jYje5)

78 A Lawyer has offered to represent them for free against the libel
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:47 PM (O2RFr)

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Good. And good PR. If I were in his area, I'd look into doing business with him.

Can't remember his name but he is supposedly a frequent guest on Mark Levins radio show so no slacker

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:50 PM (O2RFr)

79 The Catholic kids should have given the fake ass Indian a bottle of Johnnie Walker and told him to beat it while singing The Ballad of Ira Hayes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 01:51 PM (Z+IKu)

80 He's one of those who believe that blacks are the real Jews or some such crazy. And they love to rant in public.

Basically crazy as a shithouse rat.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (/tuJf)

Oh yeah. The ones where even Farrakhan is like, "nah, bro, that sounds pretty crazy."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:51 PM (Ct55T)

81 66
My 8th grader is in DC the weekend for their class trip. We're from the
red part of IL so half the kids bought MAGA hats cuz that's probably the
edgeist thing a teenager can do now. They had to leave the MKL memorial
due to verbal harassment from protesters.

Posted by: Dick"I'm a Dick" Durbin at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (oJvzj)
That is fuckin' despicable. I have a feeling that MLK would approve of DJT. They've certainly twisted the man's memory to where nobody on the ground at the time would recognize it.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 01:51 PM (14URa)

82 And the old coot is a politician more than a Vietnam vet.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:51 PM (EwLjS)

83 THEY'RE GUILTY!!
KILL THEM NOW!
(before the truth gets out)

Posted by: twittertwats at January 20, 2019 01:52 PM (z79tQ)

84 So the media got something completely wrong and ran with it all day, ending up stepping on the own dicks. That hasn't happened since, well, the day before yesterday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 01:52 PM (gC2IV)

85 82 And the old coot is a politician more than a Vietnam vet.

Fuck him.

Husband is a Nam' Vet and plenty of them are radical... We have to remember that they were drafted not volunteers

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (O2RFr)

86 Who's all rooting for the Chefs today?

Posted by: Pete Seria at January 20, 2019 01:46 PM (7ZQe3)

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Pity both teams can't lose.

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (RU4sa)

87 If the School buses its students to the March in DC knowing activists opposing their view are also in attendance, shouldn't they stand by their kids until the truth is known?

Shameful for the Diocese and School to bus their kids to a political event, and then throw their boys under the bus at the first instance of trouble. I certainly wouldn't want my children at the School/Diocese, and I wouldn't want any of these "leaders" to share a foxhole with me either.

Posted by: Scoob at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (ulUS7)

88 Consider how the Left tears down Western Civ so that it can declare itself better than the rest.


That's right about what Conservatism Inc does, too.


Just more Virtue Signalling.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (dcu2m)

89 82 And the old coot is a politician more than a Vietnam vet.

Fuck him.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:51 PM (EwLjS)

Wait... why is everyone concerned about the well being of a baby killer, anyway?

I'm confused, Daddy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (Ct55T)

90
RBG is dead. All of this is battle space prep for the SCOTUS brawl.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM


I hope someone mentions in the confirmation hearings for Amy Coney Barrett that the KKK also had major issues with Catholics.

Everything old is new again.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (jYje5)

91 [iAnd the old coot is a politician more than a Vietnam vet.

How do we know he really is a Vietnam vet?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (if8r4)

92 All of that crazy, and none of them were smoking weed!

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (wxZSX)

93
OT:

Just before Christmas, I asked for prayers for my friend and co-worker Juan, who went through surgery for a benign brain tumor on Dec 20. Surgery turned out fine, and he recovered quickly. So quickly that he's returning to work this week, his doctor cleared him for work nearly a month ahead of schedule.

So thanks to Teh Horde for your prayers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (eXA4G)

94 Husband is a Nam' Vet and plenty of them are radical... We have to remember that they were drafted not volunteers
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (O2RFr)

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My dad volunteered...back in 1960.

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (RU4sa)

95 "This is a disaster."

For who?

You don't think we are spreading the word as far and fast as we can?


This is why the work of folk like WeirdDave is so damn important.
I may not be able to produce something that debunks the left as well as Dave can.

But I sure as hell can help spread it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (cqNba)

96 There are very few news reports that I would trust. Certainly nothing like this one. I have seen this editing shit before.


Recall that edited news report of the cops beating that black guy in LA, Rodney King? They showed it over and over but never showed the beginning of the incident in which the guy provoked the cops. And that shit wound up getting a metric shit-ton of money from the taxpayers of LA. which he ultimately squandered and then drowned in a swimming pool while high on drugs.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (mpXpK)

97 IllTemperedCur

That is so great!

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (O2RFr)

98 He's one of those who believe that blacks are the real Jews or some such crazy. And they love to rant in public.

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Yeah. There are black indigenous Jews in/from Ethiopia, but that's about it. Otherwise, you're a convert. It's not an African religion aside from a sparse few people.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (5aX2M)

99 Shameful for the Diocese and School to bus their kids to a political event, and then throw their boys under the bus at the first instance of trouble. I certainly wouldn't want my children at the School/Diocese, and I wouldn't want any of these "leaders" to share a foxhole with me either.
Posted by: Scoob at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (ulUS7)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (Y+V3r)

100 Today in America we have what I call a 'North Korean news media'.

The so-called mainstream media dutifully receives their talking points every day from the DNC, and then runs with whatever anti-Trump narrative they can, 24/7. The MSM really is every bit as corrupt as the only TV channel in North Korea. There is zero balance, honesty, or proportion.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (7K9lw)

101 Never, ever, ever believe what the media tells you to believe without checking into it personally.
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That's a good rule.

I would also go with 'Absolute moral authority is null and void if used to promote progressive causes.'

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2019 01:55 PM (kOpft)

102 Of course Elizabeth Warren, the dumbest panderer in the Senate, immediately condemned these boys. That puts her at the Kathy Griffin level.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:55 PM (Z216Q)

103 So there you have it. A perfect case of exactly how the media manipulates a story to push a preferred narrative.

Over and over and over, again.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 20, 2019 01:55 PM (Tyii7)

104 Never, ever, ever believe what the media tells you to believe without checking into it personally.


==

always good to remember

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 01:55 PM (bUjCl)

105 So thanks to Teh Horde for your prayers.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (eXA4G)

Outstanding! Good news indeed.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 20, 2019 01:55 PM (FXbwN)

106 My dad volunteered...back in 1960.

Oh, I'm not casting aspersions on the Vets... Just saying a lot were drafted... Husband also volunteered

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:55 PM (O2RFr)

107 We encourage young people to get involved in politics and when they follow their own beliefs, they are victimized by the insane left racist bastards.

If the kid wore an Obama hat and someone treated him that way. . .

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:56 PM (EwLjS)

108 "Dave,

Did you see Scott Adams apologize for his position taken yesterday? "

Sort of. He keeps saying he "believes his own eyes" which if course is wrong, he wasn't there. He believed someone else's eyes, as presented on video.

The difference is not academic.

Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 01:56 PM (CFavQ)

109 Social media and lynch mobs. Name a more iconic duo.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 01:56 PM (gDSJf)

110 75 Fuck this. All Democrats hate me and hate America.

War.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (EwLjS)

Amen
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:50 PM (Y+V3r)

---

Hooah.

Most of my family hates me.

Half the country? Meh.

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 01:56 PM (RU4sa)

111 Does anyone know if there have been any retractions in leftie mainstream media? I did see some gun jumping conservatives retract their original condemnation. Just wondering if CNN, MSNBC, Etc have had second thoughts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at January 20, 2019 01:57 PM (SN3PT)

112 A Catholic teenager peacefully exercises his First Amendment rights. He is now a target from the bullying and violent left.



Fuck this. All Democrats hate me and hate America.



War.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (EwLjS)


This is why I want nothing to do with the left. No leftist friends, family, etc. The closest I want to be to them is checking up on their state of decomposition in the iron cages.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 20, 2019 01:57 PM (9Om/r)

113 >>Oh yeah. The ones where even Farrakhan is like, "nah, bro, that sounds pretty crazy."

I think it's Judaism +. I heard one guy ranting about spaceships and other whacked stuff.

I think they all got high and watched The Fifth Element and just ran with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 01:57 PM (/tuJf)

114 99
Shameful for the Diocese and School to bus their kids to a political
event, and then throw their boys under the bus at the first instance of
trouble. I certainly wouldn't want my children at the School/Diocese,
and I wouldn't want any of these "leaders" to share a foxhole with me
either.

Posted by: Scoob at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (ulUS7)



Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (Y+V3r)
Yup, this. Absolutely disgusting of them. And, while I'm no expert, probably not what Jesus would have done.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 01:58 PM (14URa)

115 111 Does anyone know if there have been any retractions in leftie mainstream media? I did see some gun jumping conservatives retract their original condemnation. Just wondering if CNN, MSNBC, Etc have had second thoughts.

Seriously? Not that I've seen... Most likely they'll run with the lie for a day or say and then quietly let it die.

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 01:58 PM (O2RFr)

116 Facebook put up with this shit. Facebook is not social media. It's ANTI-social media.

Facebook is a major part of the problem.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 01:58 PM (EwLjS)

117 Trump's a fegele?

Oy wey.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 01:58 PM (dcu2m)

118 Missed the other thread, but it was interesting. Made me think if I am really friends with any libs or possible libs. I can think of two, but one I knew since HS, so before serious political divisions formed. The other is too old to be held responsible. Other than that, I can work with them, but as long as it is professional, and they keep their mouth shut about politics. That's about it.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (bUjCl)

119 By the way, has Jonah Goldberg plagiarized anything yet today?

Ah, who am I kidding, why should today be different from any other day?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (Z216Q)

120 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.

Posted by: WJ at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (Frqy8)

121
So thanks to Teh Horde for your prayers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 01:54 PM (eXA4G)


I pray every day for my grey-box friends. Happy to do it and even happier when it helps.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (LsBY9)

122 that every other toothed wagonburner is a two bit phoney, make believe, vagrant fuck. piss be on him.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:00 PM (KP5rU)

123 This is why I want nothing to do with the left. No leftist friends, family, etc. The closest I want to be to them is checking up on their state of decomposition in the iron cages.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 20, 2019 01:57 PM (9Om/r)

Conversely, this is why I engage my friends to convince them that this is NOT their team. They are not "leftists". That what the people they support believe is NOT AT ALL what they think they believe.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:00 PM (Ct55T)

124 Contact info for the school and the Catholic leaders.

Consider contacting them, and offering support for the boys.

https://twitter.com/batzona412/status/1086926261383966720

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:00 PM (cqNba)

125 Also, being a vet is about respect and being recognized for what you did. It isn't a trump card to bring up to win an argument.

Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 02:00 PM (CFavQ)

126 Hey chavez : )

How ya doin?

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 02:00 PM (RU4sa)

127 Hey, let's honor Martin Luther King by terrorizing teenagers who are of another race on the National Mall!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:01 PM (EwLjS)

128 120: bullshit, served with danang "dick" dick blumenthal. this is known.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:01 PM (KP5rU)

129 I love how somehow, saying make America Great, is now RAAAAACIST!



Whut? American is a RACE now?
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Benjamin Franklin said that we are a new race (based not on blood, but belief) and need a new country.

At least he did in the musical 1776. I just assume similar things were said while we were explaining the need to slaughter redcoats.

Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2019 02:01 PM (kOpft)

130 Also, being a vet is about respect and being recognized for what you did.

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*snort*

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 02:01 PM (RU4sa)

131 In my generation, gays stayed in the closet, ok?

You'd do whatever it takes... marry one, two, or even three hot models, cheat on them with porn chicks... whatever you need to do to keep up appearances.

Posted by: A. Homo at January 20, 2019 02:02 PM (5aX2M)

132 This is why I want nothing to do with the left. No leftist friends, family, etc. The closest I want to be to them is checking up on their state of decomposition in the iron cages.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 20, 2019 01:57 PM (9Om/r)

Conversely, this is why I engage my friends to convince them that this is NOT their team. They are not "leftists". That what the people they support believe is NOT AT ALL what they think they believe.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:00 PM (Ct55T)

Age has a lot to do with it. Sometimes things are so set in, it is an exercise in futility. Still think that if AOC hangs out with Trump or his fam, she will see the light !

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 02:02 PM (bUjCl)

133 Old and busted: Judging on the basis of skin color.

New Hotness: Judging on the basis of hat color.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 02:02 PM (Ct55T)

134
He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.

Posted by: WJ at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM


Good point. My eligibility for the draft year was a few years before his eligibility and only the first 15 ping-pong balls were taken. A couple years later they didn't even run that lottery.

Another candidate for stolen valor, perhaps.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 02:02 PM (jYje5)

135 126; SMH! Doing good. Have a major remodel going right now. My time here is spotty.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:02 PM (KP5rU)

136 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.


If that's true, this will be memory holed as soon as that breaks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (dcu2m)

137 >>Conversely, this is why I engage my friends to convince them that this is NOT their team. They are not "leftists". That what the people they support believe is NOT AT ALL what they think they believe.

I think this is right. The Democrat friends I have are not part of this new breed of hard core leftists. We wouldn't be friends if they were. And they cringe at where their party is heading.

It wasn't that long ago that people on the other side of the aisle weren't enemies. This new generation of leftists are more akin to 3rd world socialists.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (/tuJf)

138 chavez!!!

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (14URa)

139 Hey, No. Can you give us your name and address like the leftist terrorists wanted for this teenager?

No?

Coward.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (EwLjS)

140 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there

War ended in 75 so he could have been there

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (O2RFr)

141 Peaches!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (KP5rU)

142 Amazing that this is the big story instead of other things.

Posted by: soulpile at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (wJAJb)

143 *types*
*deletes*
*leaves to watch playoff football with girlfriend's family and enjoy the day*

Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (nw6G5)

144 Ironically enough, CBD deleted my ONT link showing it was a lie last night at #335 at 11:31 p.m. (instead of fixing my unbroken Twitter link for me) for allegedly blowing the margins when it didn't even come close filling the full length of the comment-box unlike the Griffith ones above.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (Evws/)

145 I knew it was bullshit the second I saw it.

I have a very simple rule of thumb. Whenever the media shows you a clip of something terrible involving Trump or Trump supporters (or several other things - police brutality most commonly), and the clip is only a handful of seconds long, they are

1) Lying
2) Concealing the full incident which is favorable to their smear target.

Even from the clip you could tell the douchebag old man was the troll here. The kid's expression and demeanor was CLASSIC 'wtf is this dude in my face for', and the guy was banging his drum RIGHT in his face while he did nothing.

I called it yesterday.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (setIA)

146 " Also, being a vet is about respect and being recognized for what you did.

---

*snort*
Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 02:01 PM (RU4sa)"

Snort all you want, I'll give my reapect to whomever I please. If you got drafted and went, didn't cower or hide, and did your fucking job, then you deserve respect.



Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (CFavQ)

147 The Democrat friends I have are not part of this new breed of hard core leftists.


yeah, that too.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (bUjCl)

148 They had to leave the MKL memorial due to verbal harassment from protesters.

Posted by: Dick"I'm a Dick" Durbin at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (oJvzj)


=====


Mark Levin has a Memorial? ;-) Seriously, that is disgusting. I could never imagine -- before the past few years -- what it was like living among the brownshirts in Germany back in the day.

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2019 02:05 PM (WqPYg)

149 *types*
*deletes*
*leaves to watch playoff football with girlfriend's family and enjoy the day*
Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (nw6G5)


sometimes it is good to step away

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 02:05 PM (bUjCl)

150 120 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.
Posted by: WJ at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (Frqy


Few people stop to think that a Vietnam vet would have to be at least in his mid-60s now. I've seen panhandlers claim to be Vietnam vets, and they look like they're no more than 50.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:05 PM (if8r4)

151 148 The Democrat friends I have are not part of this new breed of hard core leftists.


Mine either, though they don't like Trump, they aren't hysterical

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 02:05 PM (O2RFr)

152 "He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there. "

I was born in 57, and missed it.

If he served, it was the last moments of the war.

And yeh, somebody needs to pull the string on that Vet claim he's making.
Cause I doubt it's real.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:05 PM (cqNba)

153 99. If there is one thing I have learned from my interaction with catholic hierarchy of any type is that they either love the left or are a bunch of wussies.

Posted by: Martell at January 20, 2019 02:06 PM (v0yBX)

154 My people used every part of the narrative.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren


Yes, Fauxcahauntas, you definitely did. You started eating at the asshole and ate your way right up the digestive tract, didn't you?

Posted by: Sharkman at January 20, 2019 02:06 PM (2eKoI)

155 I was born in '54. I was not drafted. The draft was ended before I turned eighteen.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:06 PM (KP5rU)

156 I have a very simple rule of thumb. Whenever the media shows you a clip of something terrible involving Trump or Trump supporters (or several other things - police brutality most commonly), and the clip is only a handful of seconds long, they are

1) Lying
2) Concealing the full incident which is favorable to their smear target.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (setIA)


This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:07 PM (if8r4)

157 When is the Catholic Speaker of the House going to condemn this abuse a Catholic teenager at a pro-life rally?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:08 PM (EwLjS)

158 I'll bet you ten bucks that the Left will condemn the Catholic kids, and support these little SoB's.

https://tinyurl.com/y7gclotk

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:09 PM (cqNba)

159 Yeah, I'm going to need real proof that the drummer professional activist is a Vietnam (combat) veteran at this point and not just take his word for it.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 02:10 PM (Evws/)

160 Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 02:04 PM (Evws/)

www.hotair.com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2019 02:10 PM (l7me7)

161 157.
Look at the majority of catholic elites and top of the hierarchy: leftists or cowards. So disgusted with them.

Posted by: Martell at January 20, 2019 02:10 PM (v0yBX)

162 April 18th, 1972 was the last date that someone was drafted and donned the uniform as a draftee.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:11 PM (cqNba)

163
He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.

But he was at Woodstock.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (aKsyK)

164 When is the Catholic Speaker of the House going to condemn this abuse a Catholic teenager at a pro-life rally?

No sign of icicles down here. Heh.

Posted by: Beelzebub at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (Tyii7)

165 On the plus side, at least the media had to admit that there was a March For Life.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (gC2IV)

166 thank you weird dave.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (LWu6U)

167 Bartender, I'll have a Bloody Mary to go with my double-shot of morning tribalism.

Posted by: Fritz at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (wxZSX)

168 Fuck these people. Unless you show me video of someone on my side burning down an orphanage or killing kittens or something, I'm not shooting right.

THIS IS OFFENSIVE

Fuck you.

THIS IS RACIST

Fuck you.

THEY SHOULD APOLOGIZE AND PUBLICLY BE SHAMED

Fuck you. And no.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (7PLM4)

169 OT-This cartoon about leftists made me laugh; It's true.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 02:13 PM (AllCR)

170 I've signed off Facebook for the last time. The threats of violence, including those made by a friend of mine who is a school teacher and went to Catholic college with me, is a disgrace.

Wearing a MAGA hat and smirking is now justification for violence? Bullying?

Adolph Hitler would have loved Facebook,

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:13 PM (EwLjS)

171 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there

War ended in 75 so he could have been there

Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (O2RFr)


We ended our direct involvement in 1973. So they must have flown him over there and right back again. In other words don't believe a word the MFM is spewing

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 02:13 PM (SiINZ)

172 You want to know how happy I am that I bailed from the shit swamp that is social media years ago? This is the first I heard about any of this.

Also, I find I don't actually give a fuck. Guess I just assume it's all bollocks, all the time.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at January 20, 2019 02:14 PM (lLeln)

173 >>> How do we know he really is a Vietnam vet?

Alleged Vietnam vet.

I want to see his service record.

Posted by: fluffy, pedantic dick at January 20, 2019 02:14 PM (dCRRg)

174 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.



But he was at Woodstock.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2019 02:12 PM (aKsyK)
That might account for his confusion on the issue of his whereabouts. They both had mud.

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:14 PM (14URa)

175 Happily I missed this non-event/lynching, and will succeed in missing it by not paying it much attention. Will be gone by tomorrow - or tonight, I guess, since it was such an obvious/typical distortion of events.


Just stumbling around the twatters, tho, became aware of several non-authoritarian/racist types who instantly jumped in with the lynch mob. Sort of confirms a dire situation: even the most engaged and "smartest" observers (most of them) seem as dumbed down as the electorate.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:14 PM (QDnY+)

176 I have zero fucks to give if I'm racist or not. Not by their terms anyway. Fuck these people and their frantic dog whistling. Don't give fuck at all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:15 PM (KP5rU)

177 I think the poor kid looks uncomfortable, not really knowing what he should do, with this guy in his face. I feel bad for the kids who had no idea they were a target.

Posted by: Kookytoots at January 20, 2019 02:15 PM (gmtFW)

178 Sorry; Here's the link for cartoon:

https://tinyurl.com/ybncchca

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2019 02:15 PM (AllCR)

179
I read the Wiki on Amy Coney Barrett today. I think everyone should when they get a minute. There's nothing new they can throw at her. Her credentials are beyond impeccable for a Supreme Court justice.

Which is why someone is trying to whip up some anti-Catholic hysteria. The usual suspects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Coney_Barrett

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 02:16 PM (jYje5)

180 " The threats of violence, including those made by a friend of mine who is a school teacher"

Contact their superintendent and include screenshots. That's a firing offense in most school districts.

Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 02:16 PM (CFavQ)

181 By the way there are pictures floating around showing the mostly peaceful Indian at other protests including the pipeline.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 01:34 PM
~~~~~

Here's a link to an article from 2015 in which Mr. Phillips claims he was accosted in much the same way. He's a serial victim.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9v6qnhh

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 02:16 PM (NtglE)

182 I think this is right. The Democrat friends I have
are not part of this new breed of hard core leftists. We wouldn't be
friends if they were. And they cringe at where their party is heading.



It wasn't that long ago that people on the other side of the aisle
weren't enemies. This new generation of leftists are more akin to 3rd
world socialists.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (/tuJf)


=====


Conversely, I have various family members who claim to be "conservative" and used to hold those values, but now hate Trump and buy into all the Leftist agit-prop. The one common thread? They watch CNN 24x7. Overton Window FTW ...

Posted by: ShainS at January 20, 2019 02:16 PM (WqPYg)

183 My 8th grader is in DC the weekend for their class trip. We're from the red part of IL so half the kids bought MAGA hats cuz that's probably the edgeist thing a teenager can do now. They had to leave the MKL memorial due to verbal harassment from protesters.

Posted by: Dick"I'm a Dick" Durbin at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (oJvzj)


I used to work across the street from the Pentagon City Mall. Lots of bus tours into DC run from there. Saw lots and lots of school groups pass through. Saw LOTS of kids wearing MAGA hits in those groups. I think the sellers of souvenirs were pretty happy about it.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 02:16 PM (ZfRYq)

184 I feel bad for the kids who had no idea they were a target.

Posted by: Kookytoots at January 20, 2019 02:15 PM (gmtFW)
I feel worse that they had no idea their Catholic school trip sponsors and the mayor of their city were so anxious to throw them under the bus based on absolute bullshit "reporting."

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:17 PM (14URa)

185 The media is playing us like a fiddle. Like who even cares if the original narrative was true? A giant nothing burger. There are a100 more important things taking place in the world. This is literally mass hysteria. Scary.

Posted by: Max Power at January 20, 2019 02:17 PM (QCc6B)

186 If he was standing like that at pro-abortion rally, the left would call him courageous in the face of opposition. Smirking would be characterized as poise and confidence.

Fuck the media. Fuck Facebook for fueling this.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:17 PM (EwLjS)

187 181; so, a professional, wagonburning, fucking, vagrant. soros is getting desparate.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:17 PM (KP5rU)

188 I have zero fucks to give if I'm racist or not. Not by their terms anyway. Fuck these people and their frantic dog whistling. Don't give fuck at all.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:15 PM (KP5rU)

What this guy said ^^^^^

They've turned the ratchet to deplatforming, getting people fired and/or blacklisted, doxxing, physical assault and in some cases attempted murder. They have pissed away any claim they had to the benefit of the doubt. To hell with them.

Posted by: Vanya at January 20, 2019 02:18 PM (7PLM4)

189 Maybe he was an NVA veteran, thereby qualifying him for double super victimhood status.

Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2019 02:18 PM (gDSJf)

190
April 18th, 1972 was the last date that someone was drafted and donned the uniform as a draftee.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:11 PM (cqNba)






Coincidentally, that was also pretty much the last day that the Left protested the Vietnam War in a serious manner.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 02:19 PM (eXA4G)

191
Of course, Amy Coney Barrett ONLY adopted two more Haitian children then Hillary Clinton, who adopted zero and ripped off the Haitians for millions.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 02:19 PM (jYje5)

192
You know what scares the shit out of the left? All those young kids who are pro-life and wearing MAGA hats. Kids not under their indoctrination in fact, completely against them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 02:20 PM (SiINZ)

193 Lost in all this mess is that Mitt Romney (D-Utah, Massachusetts, California), of all people, endorsed the Trump immigration offer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 02:21 PM (Z216Q)

194 First! ( After reading the content)

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 02:22 PM (/rm4P)

195
Squaw Liz: Him member of my tribe. Him fightum along side Da Nang Dick. Him takum heap many scalps in Vietnam.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 02:22 PM (SiINZ)

196 Frag: Done. He used Facebook to ask Shaun King for the kid's name and address so he could beat the kid up.

Liberals are mentally ill. The sick part is everyone on Facebook cheering him on. Mentally ill.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:22 PM (EwLjS)

197 Uh, Folks?

Viet Nam combat ops ended in JANUARY of 73.

No way someone born in 55 would be in country... as they would not even be 18 or through Bootcamp yet.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 02:23 PM (NgKpN)

198 " The media is playing us like a fiddle. "

Not as much as they would like to.

We are learning how to fight back.
And the media is taking some shots below the waterline.
This is blowing up in their face.
Not on the TV.

But in the forum of social media.

Go to the Kathy Griffen link, and read the comments.
See the links.

Just like the absolute absence of the Woman's March being discussed on NextDoor social media prior to the actual march.

Those fcukers knew that the right was waiting to pounce on any mention of the upcoming march.

So they never posted about it.
To keep from giving us an opening.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:23 PM (cqNba)

199 Even in the very first video--the one that got the whole thing rolling--you can clearly see that the kids aren't even looking DIRECTLY at the Indian dude with the drum. They seem to be looking past him--probably watching for their bus.
And it was rude of Injun Joe to be beating his drum right in the kids face....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 20, 2019 02:23 PM (NFEMn)

200 193; In all due respect, Sir, fuck Mutt Rombley. With a lit flame thrower. Sleazy, two timing, fuck.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:23 PM (KP5rU)

201 Thanks as well Weird Dave, I had no idea of even the narrative yet alone basics to form any opinion so didn't write a word on it.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 02:24 PM (/rm4P)

202 If he was a real veteran, he wouldn't be picking a fight with some teenage boy.

Chief Big Pussy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:24 PM (EwLjS)

203 Uh, Folks?

Viet Nam combat ops ended in JANUARY of 73.

No way someone born in 55 would be in country... as they would not even be 18 or through Bootcamp yet.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 02:23 PM (NgKpN)



Squaw Liz: You say Injun speak with forked tongue?!?!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 02:25 PM (SiINZ)

204 Mrs Hi Desert thinks this is all about drumming up (pun intended) anti-Catholic bias. Why? RBG is getting ready to check out, and Amy Coney Barrett is our logical replacement choice.

This is concerted enemy action. Plan accordingly.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (All my hate cannot be found) at January 20, 2019 02:25 PM (l7Kbv)

205 Beating that drum while walking into their peaceful circle is an act of war ... they could have legally shot him. /s

OK, that is a little extreme, but really, how antagonistic is it to get in their face with the drum beating thing? It is not a peaceful gesture .. it disrupts all other discussion ... and yet the kids kinda went along with it for a little while ... before basically "saying" get the fuck out of our face with that drum shit.


The kids should have brought some of those horns (vuvuzela) used at sport events, and walked over into the Indian circle ... gee, who would the media attack if they did that?


the obnoxious vuvuzela ... making events unbearable
youtube.com/watch?v=J_GYxP9jnJo

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 02:25 PM (Cus5s)

206 >>> No way someone born in 55 would be in country... as they would not even be 18 or through Bootcamp yet.

I'm assuming he was born in 54. He may have joined at 17. It is possible, but not likely.

He can clear it up by showing his service record.

Posted by: fluffy, pedantic dick at January 20, 2019 02:26 PM (dCRRg)

207 "196 Frag: Done. He used Facebook to ask Shaun King for the kid's name and address so he could beat the kid up.

Liberals are mentally ill. The sick part is everyone on Facebook cheering him on. Mentally ill.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at January 20, 2019 02:22 PM (EwLjS)"

Holy crap... Yeah that teacher is gonna have a huge problem. Threats of violence against students are no joke, and supers take them very seriously.

Posted by: Frag at January 20, 2019 02:26 PM (CFavQ)

208 One of my former coworkers who is a year or two older than me (I'm birn in '57) was AF personnel who assisted in the evacuation of US personnel from Saigon in April of '75. So it's possible, but very, very unlikely.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 20, 2019 02:27 PM (Hx3Yn)

209 I think the commenter who said this is battle prep was on to something.

Posted by: Max Power at January 20, 2019 02:27 PM (QCc6B)

210 203 Uh, Folks?

Viet Nam combat ops ended in JANUARY of 73.

No way someone born in 55 would be in country... as they would not even be 18 or through Bootcamp yet.

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 02:23 PM (NgKpN)



Squaw Liz: You say Injun speak with forked tongue?!?!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 02:25 PM (SiINZ)

Part of Liz Warren's tribe? Could be....

Posted by: Don Q at January 20, 2019 02:27 PM (NgKpN)

211 the obnoxious vuvuzela ... making events unbearable
youtube.com/watch?v=J_GYxP9jnJo
Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 02:25 PM (Cus5s)
---
Is this the Downfall video with Hitler cursing "those f*cking vuvuzelas!"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 02:27 PM (kQs4Y)

212 Huck, who cares (about Romney)? Of course he endorsed it. It was DOA, and weaker than weak sauce, as well.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 02:27 PM (QDnY+)

213 Hello.

Just for fun I checked to see what Plagiarist Jonah Goldberg had for this. A retweet from Rich Lowry condemning the kids. When Tim Pool showed the complete video, Lowry still insisted that the kids need to apologize.

No support from the Cucks on this. Typical.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 20, 2019 02:27 PM (IfYaq)

214 On this Gsteway Pundit was right, right from the start

I'll go a step further, you know what denouncing ANYONE on the right gains you with the left?

Jack. Diddly. And shit.

You never ever ever ever will get any credit if you do and all it does is incite them to go after more and more on the right.

So you're at the point where you've been tricked into hurling insults high school boys because you're so desperate for a scrap of affirmation from people who hate you.

Oh, someone on the left wants me to hate someone? Fuck them. Not going to do it.
I'll decide on my own who needs my hate.
Mostly no one.
Not my job and I have better things to do with my life

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 20, 2019 02:28 PM (TN1P5)

215 "I think the commenter who said this is battle prep was on to something."

Gotta agree with you on that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 02:28 PM (cqNba)

216 I have no doubt Chief Everyothertooth was a wind talker in Nam. No question. Shoulda got the Medal of Honor.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:28 PM (KP5rU)

217 I thought "Indigent People's Day" was supposed to be in October & supplant Columbus Day? Or is it a moveable feast?

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2019 02:30 PM (Izzlo)

218 nood!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 02:30 PM (pw+jk)

219 I am shocked at these thugs, these hooligans, attacking the elderly Native American war veteran and drum maker like that in public.

This is not who we are. It must all be President Trump's fault.

Posted by: Willard Romney at January 20, 2019 02:31 PM (Z+IKu)

220 I feel worse that they had no idea their Catholic school trip sponsors and the mayor of their city were so anxious to throw them under the bus based on absolute bullshit "reporting."
Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:17 PM (14URa)

Exactly. I feel so bad for those kids. They need to sue.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (dUJdY)

221 Look for unrelated stories that seem to confirm a similar idea. Maybe a big sex abuse expose in the church. If this is the start of a media campaign there should be a next phase of some kind.

Posted by: Max Power at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (QCc6B)

222 217
I thought "Indigent People's Day" was supposed to be in October supplant Columbus Day? Or is it a moveable feast?

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2019 02:30 PM (Izzlo)
LOL, I read it as "Ingredient People's Day" and thought, oh, time for the food thread??? Just over the moon that I did not lose power last night and that the sun is shining today. Indiana, the land of lowered expectations . . .

Posted by: Peaches at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (14URa)

223 Squaw Liz: Him member of my tribe. Him fightum along side Da Nang Dick. Him takum heap many scalps in Vietnam.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 20, 2019 02:22 PM (SiINZ)


Did he count coup? How many times?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:32 PM (if8r4)

224 "Indigent People's Day"

I love it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (if8r4)

225 179
I read the Wiki on Amy Coney Barrett today. I think everyone should when they get a minute. There's nothing new they can throw at her. Her credentials are beyond impeccable for a Supreme Court justice.

Which is why someone is trying to whip up some anti-Catholic hysteria. The usual suspects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Coney_Barrett
Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 02:16 PM (jYje5)

Clerked for Scalia, executive editor of the Notre Dame law review, awesome stuff. On the merits she's a shoo-in. But Catholic! That icky God stuff!

Posted by: joncelli, consulting his Roget's at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (1FhAQ)

226 73 Conservatism, Inc. has not covered itself in glory on this one.

Posted by: bates at January 20, 2019 01:49 PM (SFreT)

They're all down on their knees letting their big donors cover them with something else.

Posted by: RDittmar at January 20, 2019 02:34 PM (HBDAR)

227 I have zero fucks to give if I'm racist or not. Not
by their terms anyway. Fuck these people and their frantic dog
whistling. Don't give fuck at all.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at January 20, 2019 02:15 PM (KP5rU)


Yup, this. I treat everybody the same. If they're an asshole I'm going to tell them. In their terms I'm a racist if I don't hand my house over to the minority flavor of the week. I just don't give a fuck what they say.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 20, 2019 02:37 PM (9Om/r)

228 "Is this the Downfall video with Hitler cursing "those f*cking vuvuzelas!"?Posted by: All Hail Eris
lol, no, it is just an example of them at some event ... as a reference for those that missed it. I think it was Brazil that had them at the '96 Olympics ... obnoxious as hell. then they spread ... then they banned them most events iirc.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 02:39 PM (Cus5s)

229 I'd like to thank the FNM for pushing more of generation Z away from the commie narrative. Now if folks who want a Republic and constitutionalism can purge themselves of conservatives who want to conserve the current system which benefits the DC beltway and some NYC and Univ. elites at the expense of everyone else, we may yet manage to preserve freedom.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (jUcoH)

230 150
120 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.

Posted by: WJ at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (Frqy



Few people stop to think that a Vietnam vet would have to be at
least in his mid-60s now. I've seen panhandlers claim to be Vietnam
vets, and they look like they're no more than 50.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 02:05 PM (if8r4)

I was there when we pulled out and there when the Communists in congress shut off all aid and we had to turn around and take back the A-5s were hauling over there to give to them. I think the last ground troops were pulled out in 1974. And I am a lot older than 50.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 02:50 PM (mpXpK)

231 What the goal of the Marxists really was here in this preplanned operation.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/ 1087024627199733767.html

Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 02:52 PM (nw6G5)

232 This shows what happens when rif raf from europe sneaks into the country and breeds harassing native americans living here.

Posted by: ramondo at January 20, 2019 02:54 PM (yj8Bk)

233 "Just for fun I checked to see what Plagiarist Jonah Goldberg had for
this. A retweet from Rich Lowry condemning the kids. When Tim Pool
showed the complete video, Lowry still insisted that the kids need to
apologize. "




The National Review's response is far worse than that, this is what they have on their website. Evidently these kids were literally spitting on the cross.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4out6o

Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 02:57 PM (4thlk)

234 I hope the kids sue. The only way this crap stops is to make it hurt, seriously hurt.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (H8QX8)

235 "I read the Wiki on Amy Coney Barrett today. "

For all I know she's another John Roberts cuck. I don't know why people are so crazy about her.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:13 PM (H8QX8)

236
Border jumping felon ramondo is reduced to hiding out at the bottom of dead threads to post racist nonsense.

ICE, ICE, Baby.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at January 20, 2019 03:13 PM (jYje5)

237 #160 You could rewrite my serious comment to tell me my error but couldn't put a word-space and/or a line break in the Twitter link?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 03:21 PM (Evws/)

238 Addendum: And all the kathygriffin tweet links are still extant on this thread.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 03:23 PM (Evws/)

239 It wasn't that long ago that people on the other side of the aisle weren't enemies. This new generation of leftists are more akin to 3rd world socialists.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 02:03 PM (/tuJf)


Late to the thread, but you give the Democrat party too much credit. The Commies that took over by 1972 just hid their anti-American inclinations better. The era of Trump has caused them to remove their masks and we now see the reptilian aliens that had been lurking among us more clearly.

Democrats:
Party of Slavery since 1860
Party of Treason since 1968
Party of Excusing Islamic Jihad since 2001
Party of Domestic Terrorism since 2016

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 20, 2019 03:28 PM (5Yee7)

240
It's with gotten to the point with me when a "story" is reported by the mfm I automatically assume I'm being lied to, information being withheld, misleading information, it's coming from from "unnamed sources"and they don't know what their talking about.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 20, 2019 03:28 PM (t6XCL)

241 Breitbart led the way on debunking this kind of stuff.

Posted by: goodluckduck at January 20, 2019 03:31 PM (V8zw+)

242
Saints up 13 to zip in the first...

Posted by: Spun & Murky at January 20, 2019 03:37 PM (4DCSq)

243 (Unless you're streaming OANN to Chromecast on your TV....)

I get OANN on DirecTV. It's great, aside from the weird-ass Rand Paul fellation commercials.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 20, 2019 03:39 PM (53at6)

244 The Christian apologist James White among others has discussed the theology of these Black Hebrew Israelite guys. There are a lot of sects, but nearly all are characterized by false history, non-Christian theology (anti-trinitarianism, denial of Christ's deity, works righteousness), and of course hatred of white people. Much of it is crazed anger. I've heard that it's made great inroads into black churches.

I think the appeals are: (1) Getting to feel superior to others. (2) Aggressive triabalism (3) Open masculinity in this effeminate culture which has all too unfortunately impacted elements of the church as well. (4) Biblical illiteracy. (5) Most people are utterly clueless about history, so something like this comes along which posits esoteric things, usually kernels of truth mixed with heaping portions of falsehood and poison, and this "hidden" (aka. mostly false) knowledge is like crack to some.

Posted by: Ed G at January 20, 2019 03:40 PM (aBpsG)

245 "234 I hope the kids sue. The only way this crap stops is to make it hurt, seriously hurt.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 03:10 PM (H8QX"

I work in the education field, legal liability and defense. I fully expect that their School will be sued, because it is Catholic, ya know - like Mike Pence and his wife who are currently under fire for being.. Catholic. Catholic Schools are run by the Diocese which will defend the case.

As for the students? I'm pretty sure that they will ALL be Doxxed, harassed, harangued, bullied, tarred and feathered before their heads go onto a rabid leftist pike.

This type of rabid-Leftist Targeting, Bullying and their rabid attempt to ruin the lives of everyday Americans is not going to end well.

I suggest we call the left what it really is: RABID.

P.S. Long time lurker who rarely ever posts. Thanks for reading.

Posted by: Key West Reader at January 20, 2019 03:43 PM (FMgH2)

246 These racist punks make the case for abortion To bad their mothers didn't abort these ignorant southern white trash.

Posted by: ramondo at January 20, 2019 03:45 PM (yj8Bk)

247 120 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.
Posted by: WJ at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (Frqy

Maybe he was one of those youngsters who were overeager to "Kill a Commie for Christ".

Read the other day about a guy who enlisted in the Airborne at 14. Was kicked out when his mother learned he had been wounded in Sicily. Kicked out of the Navy for underage, too. Finally joined the Merchies on the North Atlantic run. Rejoined the Army after the war, Special Forces, retired after being Sergeant Major of all SF in Vietnam.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 20, 2019 03:46 PM (MwFQu)

248 246 These racist punks make the case for abortion To bad their mothers didn't abort these ignorant southern white trash.
Posted by: ramondo at January 20, 2019 03:45 PM (yj8Bk)
________________________________________________
A Botched Aborsh Speaks.

Posted by: Key West Reader at January 20, 2019 03:47 PM (FMgH2)

249 It's appalling that Covington Catholic school student Nicholas Sandmann and his family have been doxxed all over the internet by the rabid left

Posted by: No justice at January 20, 2019 03:49 PM (b/FCW)

250 This should be a lesson for all right media which isn't controlled opposition (like NRO): Withhold comment on ANY story that advances a progressive agenda and let the facts come out. Wait to see what happens before damaging your own credibility by virtue signalling. I mean, how many more false narratives do people of the right need to get suckered by?

Posted by: Ed G at January 20, 2019 03:51 PM (aBpsG)

251 The school and the Diocese should be exercising their check writing hand. Start with "free tuition," and add zeroes.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 20, 2019 03:56 PM (MwFQu)

252 235
For all I know she's another John Roberts cuck. I don't know why people are so crazy about her.


The same is true of Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, etc. Nobody has any way of knowing, really. And in fairness Roberts has been solid on most issues.

Posted by: bates at January 20, 2019 04:13 PM (SFreT)

253 43 The media are disgusting. I don't believe anything they print or broadcast anymore. I've been a news junkie for decades but I've turned it off and read the Foreign presses and select websites. The process of destroying this kid is happening now. He sent his local TV station the video and pleaded with them to run the truth but they refrained and stuck with the original story. This could happen to any of our kids. Beyond sickening.


Grounds for tort.

Posted by: Anon at January 20, 2019 04:19 PM (XaSia)

254 "That's from WaPo, but I can't link it because of their paywall"

Use outline.com and you can link any news site ad-free.

Posted by: Valiant at January 20, 2019 04:20 PM (3MiF8)

255 A lawyer James Beasley in Philadelphia represented George Zimmerman suing the media when the MSM edited his conversation with police to make him seem like a racist.

from what I see online the judge somehow found Zimmerman a "public person" thus preventing the suit, but these kids were not public at all until this bullshit.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Anon at January 20, 2019 04:29 PM (XaSia)

256
Guessing the food thread is up?

Posted by: Spun & Murky at January 20, 2019 04:44 PM (4DCSq)

257
Nope. Ace blood moon.

N00d, nonetheless...

Posted by: Spun & Murky at January 20, 2019 04:48 PM (4DCSq)

258 120 He wasn't a Vietnam vet. Too young. Born 1955. No way was he even there.
Posted by: WJ at January 20, 2019 01:59 PM (Frqy

=====

I know a guy born in either '55 or '56 who was a 19-year old USMC door gunner during the Saigon evacuation in May, 1975. That said, I'm sure that loon is bullshitting ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at January 20, 2019 05:04 PM (3JbJY)

259 So NR never apologized, they just meopry holed their condemnation and the cowardly Rich Lowry deleted his tweet (while issuing an almost incomprehensible tweet of an explanation).


The Plagiarist simply deleted his retweeted (plagiarized?) condemnation.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 05:07 PM (Z216Q)

260 33 Hell, I bet kids with nothing to do with this will have applications in the circular file at preferred schools... Bet they can get in Missouri.

This is what is called a non-sequiter, because the standard for getting into Mizzou is you must have a pulse.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 20, 2019 05:24 PM (9GXhn)

261 If the kid is smirking it's because all of these weird fvcks that approached them.

Actually, that smirk is the natural reaction of a young boy to a potential assault OR to actions he does not understand. Were he 19-20 or a little older, he might either pop the dude or simply walk away. But that semi-smile is meant to be disarming.

Posted by: dad29 at January 20, 2019 05:32 PM (7Kti7)

262 Ginsberg dying soon is the Perfect Storm.

Posted by: pawn at January 20, 2019 05:34 PM (RQgLd)

263 Reddit seems to be coming around on this surprisingly fast.

I need a screenshot of the part of the cowbell sketch where the cowbell guy's right in the guy's face so bad right now.

Posted by: Dave M at January 20, 2019 05:52 PM (TReIe)

264 .
Looks like NRO has pulled their column on the kids and posted an apology column in it's place.

Posted by: ArthurK at January 20, 2019 05:53 PM (koV/4)

265 NR link is down. Don't see apology, just different article.

Posted by: WOPR at January 20, 2019 06:13 PM (J70i0)

266 Did Jim Swift take down his tweet attacking the kids/school yet? Or is it still feeding time?

Posted by: bates at January 20, 2019 06:43 PM (SFreT)

267 Every day I try to think of a reason these people shouldnt all just fucking choke to death on their lies , viciousness and sanctimony. And I mean every Democrat and anybody that shakes hands with them.

But goddamned the World would be a better place if thes infantile jerks just went to Guyana and fucking offed themselves.

Posted by: Sam in VA at January 20, 2019 07:01 PM (Nqq7o)

268 Does anyone know if there's a GoFundMe campaign yet for Nicholas Sandmann (the kid from the school who's been getting doxxed)?

Posted by: Unpaid secret service at January 20, 2019 07:26 PM (05oyJ)

269 The video also shows that the black protestor were harassing the Native group, telling them all their problems are because they worship fake gods.

So you have people actually harassing the Indians and not one person in the media cares, wonder why?

Posted by: Rbastid at January 20, 2019 07:34 PM (RMoQQ)

270 Second look at D-Lamp?

Posted by: Darth Randall at January 20, 2019 07:50 PM (p0nVR)

They Politicize Sports, Eating, Dressing, Sitting And Now Shaving?
What's Next?

Gillette Shave.jpg

I have a friend who is, from the few political conversations we have had, far to my left. Now, that isn't saying much because most people are, but he really is a hard-core liberal.

But...we don't talk politics! We talk booze and sex and food and cars and philosophy and marvel at the wonders of nature and science and engineering....but no politics. The only time we talk politics is if there are other people around and that is the direction the conversation is going. We never bring it up. Both of us are sufficiently versed in rhetorical techniques, and pretty damned stubborn, that we figured out that politics wasn't one of those topics from which we would gain much pleasure or convince the other of much, so why bother?

And that's nice.

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Posted by: HA at January 20, 2019 12:48 PM (MAstk)

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Posted by: HA at January 20, 2019 12:49 PM (MAstk)

3 We will be made to talk politics. The left resembles Islam in that they want submission, not coexistence.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 12:49 PM (Z216Q)

4 top 10

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 20, 2019 12:49 PM (JFO2v)

5 My best friends are Evergreen State College grads. They are unbelievably progressive. We don't talk politics. I love them and they love me.

You really can be friends with lefties.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 12:50 PM (PkVlr)

6 3 We will be made to talk politics. The left resembles Islam in that they want submission, not coexistence.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 12:49 PM (Z216Q)

So true! You must not only accept and approve of gay marriage but perform one! Same for abortions, you must have receipt from PP to not be thrown off the tower.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 20, 2019 12:51 PM (JFO2v)

7 You really can be friends with lefties.
...

I haven't experienced that yet.

And I am perfectly fine with it.

Posted by: HA at January 20, 2019 12:52 PM (MAstk)

8 Gosh, I got bewillowed (which happens all the time, nbd) but against all odds, my last comment was kinda relevant to this topic:

Meijer is currently running an ad (valid this week starting today) for a $5 coupon on your next purchase after spending $25 on P&G products in the same visit.

How long does it take to spin up a promotion like that and print all the ads? Is that happenstance, coincidence, or enemy action?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 12:52 PM (t+qrx)

9 You really can be friends with lefties.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 12:50 PM (PkVlr)

---------

Hypothesis status:

[ ] proved
[x] unproved

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 20, 2019 12:52 PM (UGqF8)

10 Howard Dean on MSNBC implicitly boils it down:

We can't negotiate with Trump because Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 12:53 PM (1UZdv)

11 When lefties bring up, unasked, their talking points into unrelated conversation, you are expected to shut up, and allow for the spreading of unasked for lies.

I used to do it out of politeness.

Then I realized that every silent voice in the presence of lies supports the lies.


No longer.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 12:53 PM (cqNba)

12 for getting tomato stains out of storage containers, last night i had one, poured in some clorox toilet bowl cleaner the stuff with bleach and brushed and soaked overnight. Still soaking but appears to be 90 % gone

Posted by: Lord Percy's Cracked Chamber Pot at January 20, 2019 12:55 PM (WQpPt)

13 Cicero,

We don't talk politics. We've been friends for over 30 years. Our kids are friends. She helped me through a divorce and cancer and I helped her through a miscarriage and marital troubles. It isn't all about politics.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 12:55 PM (PkVlr)

14 I would guess this has probably been linked but it is an awesome slap down to the Gillette nonsense.

https://tinyurl.com/y8g29px5

Posted by: Tentotwo at January 20, 2019 12:56 PM (yhf6w)

15 So true! You must not only accept and approve of gay marriage but perform one! Same for abortions, you must have receipt from PP to not be thrown off the tower.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 20, 2019 12:51 PM (JFO2v)


But there's a marriage loophole. All I have to do is say I identify as a woman with a penis, or my wife identifies as a man with a vagina, and we're home free, right?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 12:57 PM (VaN/j)

16 Reminds me of the Looney Toon cartoon where the wolf and the sheepdog (carrying a lunch box) are mosying along together until they punch in at the work clock

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 12:57 PM (1UZdv)

17 >>>We talk booze and sex and food and cars and philosophy and marvel at the wonders of nature and science and engineering....but no politics.


You can talk those topics with a hardcore lib, but it is hard to talk about any of those with someone that is totalitarian without talk shifting to happy fun camps.

Maybe...
Except maybe the sex.. or booze... or philosophy... and maybe any car that is not electric.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at January 20, 2019 12:58 PM (1g7ch)

18 My daughters are lefties.. but.. not far-left.

Mostly we don't talk politics, by mutual agreement.. however, after a few glasses of wine on Thanksgiving.. well.. it's hard not to. But they usually cut it short if I start ranting..

Their friends, however, are far far lefties.. whenever we attend a get together at my younger daughter's house, I keep it zipped.

They are all wonderful kids.. good family people with their own kids and a lot of them are musicians, so there's more than enough to talk about without getting into politics.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 20, 2019 12:58 PM (438dO)

19 It isn't all about politics.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 12:55 PM (PkVlr)

----------------

So right, and thank goodness it isn't. Lots more to life than politics.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 12:58 PM (Z216Q)

20 I have very few conservative friends.

Frankly, most of the "conservatives" I know are actually either Anarcho-libertarians or just goofy contrarians.

But the liberals I know are basically of one of two stripes:

- The "hey man, liberalism is about being nice and sharing, and conservatism is about being greedy and mean and racist". And I can typically disabuse them of that notion, at least on broad-brush, political philosophy kind of issues. Which tends to lead to nice conversations.

- The hard, hard, "Marx didn't go far enough" Leftist Communist collectivist type, who has a deep enough grounding in the philosophy to recognize the so-called "left" in America (Democrats And The Media (tm)) as not really left-wing at all but simple barbaric opportunists masquerading as "of the people". Which leads to some very fun conversations as well.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 12:58 PM (Ct55T)

21 I had a conversation with a hard core lefty about the Gillette thing. He didn't like my take.

I had another conversation with another hard core lefty about it. She and I agreed that the Proctor and Gamble people are NOT to be trusted as arbiters of social engineering.

There's opportunities for common ground to be had, with many of the otherwise reasonable lefties we encounter. Can we turn them into full fledged conservos? Probably not, but it's worth having some of these conversations, with SOME of the people we otherwise disagree with.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 12:59 PM (cY3LT)

22 16 Reminds me of the Looney Toon cartoon where the wolf and the sheepdog (carrying a lunch box) are mosying along together until they punch in at the work clock
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 12:57 PM (1UZdv)

Ha! I love those!

"See ya tomorrow, Sam"

"See ya tomorrow, Ralph"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 12:59 PM (Ct55T)

23 "Toxic male" is the promoted mantra. May we also say "Poison female" ?Why not? Seems about as reasonable.
I have very few friends that are lefties. In my experience, even with acquaintances, their left-thinking ways always manage to seep out at some point, whether it is an outburst about "global warming" or a snicker about the ever evil Trump. They either can't help it, or else they believe I am in their corner.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 20, 2019 01:00 PM (aWjrD)

24 You really can be friends with a scorpion.

Posted by: A. Frog at January 20, 2019 01:00 PM (aKsyK)

25 Politicizing everything makes everything political, hence a thing suitable for government regulation.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2019 01:00 PM (xuw6q)

26
Then I realized that every silent voice in the presence of lies supports the lies.
No longer.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 12:53 PM


I think the legal maxim is 'by your silence'. If the prosecution in a court of law makes some allegation and you don't object, you're conceding the validity of the charge. But I know little of the law except to attempt to stay on the right side of it.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:00 PM (jYje5)

27 Proctor & Gamble, which owns Gillette, is headquartered in Cincinnati. Covington,KY is right across the river.

What are the odds that P&G salaries are paying the tuition for those now infamous toxically masculine boys who failed to acknowledge their white privilege (or whatever the fuck they did)?

Posted by: fluffy, pedantic dick at January 20, 2019 01:01 PM (dCRRg)

28 I have a good friend and drinking buddy who is kind of just culturally a Democrat but somewhat rational about it and we could even talk about politics.

One day over Trump he ran a "you're better than that" argument on me and I have liked him less ever since.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 01:01 PM (ZfRYq)

29 you left out "shitting"

Posted by: Anon at January 20, 2019 01:01 PM (yJy4c)

30 I have a dear friend who is very much left but also a sweet person and not judgy like most on that side. This morning she posted a pic from the womyns march yesterday and she had some innocuous sign like women can do anything together. But the two friends she was with had the usual hateful signs that showed its a leftist not women's event....One of which said. Earth is my mother, impeach the motherfu**er.

It just made me sad. Like really sweetie? Yeah you went and hung out w them. But you posted a pic on social media blaring that sentiment?!
I was going to reply: classy

But now I just want to delete my FB account because now that's all that's left on it. Fun friends sharing pet and kid pics is over.

Posted by: keena at January 20, 2019 01:02 PM (RiTnx)

31 14 I would guess this has probably been linked but it is an awesome slap down to the Gillette nonsense.

https://tinyurl.com/y8g29px5
Posted by: Tentotwo at January 20, 2019 12:56 PM (yhf6w)


Not bad, but I'd prefer a satiric approach, like the Chipotle ad a few years ago. The takedown was brutal.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 01:03 PM (VaN/j)

32 You really can be friends with lefties.

Only when "their" pols are in charge, in my experience. When they can (and absolutely WILL!) *gloat* until you want to puke.


But of course YOU are not allowed the same, when situation is reversed...


Not worth the effort, IMO.

Posted by: JQ at January 20, 2019 01:05 PM (zMzA6)

33 23 "Toxic male" is the promoted mantra. May we also say "Poison female" ?Why not? Seems about as reasonable.

As a traditionalist, I'll stick with "fatale".

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 01:05 PM (VaN/j)

34 I am pretty much isolated among a lot of left-wingers. And they start spewing hyperbolic hateful stuff and I just mediate it: "I didn't read that book," or "That sounds painful," or "I'm going to pass that by," or "You sound stressed." It works. I am becoming a paragon of patience. And more and more, I see the left-wingy stuff being rolled back. They've been sold a bill of goods and bit by bit, they see that.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:06 PM (eJj1Q)

35 Get new friends.

Posted by: WVinMN at January 20, 2019 01:06 PM (pV4s0)

36 They Politicize Sports, Eating, Dressing, Sitting And Now Shaving?
What's Next?


Whadda ya got?

Posted by: The Left at January 20, 2019 01:07 PM (Qwtw1)

37 5 My best friends are Evergreen State College grads.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 12:50 PM (PkVlr)

Golly. That is perhaps a bridge too far. For me.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:07 PM (eJj1Q)

38 Whiskey too.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/319185/

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2019 01:07 PM (BXMxN)

39 "You really can be friends with lefties."

Well, I can't. I can't because politics is too important to me, i.e., my country is too important to me. And ihe Progressive hatred of Trump is simply beyond the pale and I cannot accommodate it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:07 PM (H8QX8)

40 The problem is that, at least in my experience, leftists bring up their politics unbidden all the time. Maybe it's a California thing, and leftists assume everyone around them shares their views, but it is routine here to be serenaded with leftist yowling at, e.g., neighborhood get-togethers, parties, business lunches, etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:08 PM (if8r4)

41 My centrist and leftard friends know I voted for Trump. They don't talk to me about politics so much these days. I still rage the one guy periodically over Venezuela and such because he can take it. But there is a lot of political fatigue among all my friends of whatever political persuasion. They may not like Trump, but they are tired of CNN et al never ceasing with the biased coverage, which they know is biased, and by the D.C. politics which they know is based on holding on to power, not solving the nation's problems. (Trump is winning, day by day.)

Posted by: exdem13 at January 20, 2019 01:09 PM (W+kMI)

42 I love them and they love me.


My wife's BFF is the sweetest person you can imagine and yet she would have us in the camps in a heartbeat, though with sadness.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 01:09 PM (yQpMk)

43 They Politicize Sports, Eating, Dressing, Sitting And Now Shaving?
What's Next?


Is there anything else that YOU do? That. That is next.

Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2019 01:09 PM (5h/3t)

44 Trump get's re elected watch how fast your lefty friends lise it and throw you under a bus.

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2019 01:09 PM (BXMxN)

45 I used to be able to; had lots of lefty friends. I'm not so sure you can do it nowadays, the younger generation is pretty bad about disagreement. (How's that for understatement.)

But when I was young, I had several lib girlfriends. I converted one, and married her.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 01:09 PM (VaN/j)

46 34
I am pretty much isolated among a lot of left-wingers. And they start
spewing hyperbolic hateful stuff and I just mediate it: "I didn't read
that book," or "That sounds painful," or "I'm going to pass that by," or
"You sound stressed." It works. I am becoming a paragon of patience.
And more and more, I see the left-wingy stuff being rolled back. They've
been sold a bill of goods and bit by bit, they see that.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:06 PM (eJj1Q)
++++
I could not live like that. I have no patience for such muck. I am very thankful that my entire family (save for some cousins that I have not seen for a long while) are Trumpsters through and through.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 20, 2019 01:09 PM (aWjrD)

47 Speaking of politicizing everything, Leslie Jones is pissed that they're making a new Ghostbusters with, get this, men and blames Chief Golden Hair Surprise.

https://bit.ly/2R0VY9c?

Disappointing because she was the best part of that movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (+y/Ru)

48 I would guess this has probably been linked but it is an awesome slap down to the Gillette nonsense.

https://tinyurl.com/y8g29px5
Posted by: Tentotwo at January 20, 2019 12:56 PM (yhf6w)


Hell yes.

I don't wear watches, but I might.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (cY3LT)

49 Not worth the effort, IMO.
Posted by: JQ at January 20, 2019 01:05 PM (zMzA6)


This is pretty much my take, too. I just nod and grunt, "Uh huh," and make a mental note to give this bird a wide berth thereafter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (if8r4)

50 Toxic male" is the promoted mantra. May we also say "Poison female" ?Why not? Seems about as reasonable.

+++

Unspoken but absolutely implied is toxic white male. For extra credit watch the Netflix movie Io, where the white female lead forces sex on a black male. Totally fine.

Posted by: Total Control Racist at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (z2W2E)

51 OT. JUst doing their part to help furloughed workers in Nashville. LOL!
https://tinyurl.com/y8lq2gg8

Posted by: keena at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (RiTnx)

52 To me the left are anti-American totalitarians.


Why would I want to be friends with or support anyone like that?

Posted by: HA at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (MAstk)

53 40 The problem is that, at least in my experience, leftists bring up their politics unbidden all the time. Maybe it's a California thing, and leftists assume everyone around them shares their views, but it is routine here to be serenaded with leftist yowling at, e.g., neighborhood get-togethers, parties, business lunches, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:08 PM (if8r4)

There's a lot of "Man, i know he's 'Your Guy', but damn I hate that bastard". Going both ways. Which is very much appreciated.

Hey, I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and vice versa, but go ahead and vent. As long as they don't mind me expressing (briefly) my disgust of Hillary or Obama or whoever, they can totally express their disgust of Trump or.. or.. whoever. (Jeez, who else do we even have on our team at this point?)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (Ct55T)

54 marxism 101.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Remember, there were no stand up comedians in the former USSR.

But there were many cropped haired, bitter faced scolds who told everyone else what was good.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (Z+IKu)

55 I won't be friends with a Leftist.

But I have plenty of LIV/liberal friends. Those people, especially the feel-good LIVs, are the majority of Democrat votes.

I just try to persuade them to the right or to quit voting. It's not hard if you're nice about it.

Face it: if you're a regular person, the Left is deliberately and persistently raw-dog ass raping you in some manner. Figure out what it is for that person and keep pointing it out politely.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (5aX2M)

56 All this might be a good thing.
Real men...red-blooded American men...want red-blooded American women. And such women won't waste their time with nanny men. And eventually those progressive women will figure out their soy-boy man-bum beaus are a waste of time.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (0tfLf)

57 You really can be friends with lefties.

Boy, that's not at all been the case for me. The few I had remaining hit the low road and there became mutual disassociation. I'm guessing your tolerance level is much greater than mine.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (Tyii7)

58 My twin sister is in Chicago; I'm in Dallas...we are polar opposites politically. She's in public education; I am in the private sector, always have been.

When Trump was elected I got a scolding...and a very depressed "the country has ended" speech. We stopped speaking for a few weeks after that.

During the midterms she was telling me a vote for any republican is a vote for one-party facist rule..and that in Venzuela, they were just facists masquerading as liberals. I finally told her she and I will never, ever be able to have a political discussion on this, and that we will always disgree.

We've had MUCH better convos after that. There still may come a day when we stop speaking, she's pretty hard-core drunk-the-koolaid leftist type.

Posted by: jerake at January 20, 2019 01:12 PM (ZtQ1a)

59
At the end of the day, when you walk with the setting sun at your back, your shadow is in front of you, wide and tall. Giving the impression that one is bigger then they really are. But it's an illusion.

These are the leftists right now. Through the power of a complicit media, amateur polling, the FaceBooks and Googles cutting off conservative points of view, they think they are bigger then they really are. But the sun is setting behind them. Perhaps even, on them, if events in France are any gauge. Which I definitely think they are.

They assume that conservatives are some tiny little group. But we're still the majority at around 40%. Liberals are maybe 25%. But they're noisy little fvcks.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:12 PM (jYje5)

60
Howard Dean on MSNBC implicitly boils it down:



We can't negotiate with Trump because Orange Man Bad.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 12:53 PM (1UZdv)

======Party of Science!!!
Also eugenics, racism, and sexism.... and the democrats absolutely are tolerant of anything they agree with. The rest of those ignorant stupid dumbasses not so much.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 01:12 PM (pw+jk)

61 Mentally, I play the Who Goes Nazi game in social gatherings. Though in my case it's Who goes Stasi.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

62
My Lefty friend ditched me when she found out what I was because she feels that I'm trying to destroy her country and her future. She feels that my votes and my voice harm her personally.


If she really feels that way, I think she's doing the right thing in cutting me off. It's the principled thing to do.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at January 20, 2019 01:13 PM (SN3PT)

63 47 Speaking of politicizing everything, Leslie Jones is pissed that they're making a new Ghostbusters with, get this, men and blames Chief Golden Hair Surprise.

https://bit.ly/2R0VY9c?

Disappointing because she was the best part of that movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM (+y/Ru)

Listen, honey, it's Ghostbuster, not Ghostbustrix.

Now, the sammich fixin's are over on the sideboard. Chip chop chip.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:13 PM (Ct55T)

64 ---Posted by: keena at January 20, 2019 01:10 PM---

Hahaha! Like the old help-wanted ads:


"Housewives, can you dance?..."

Posted by: JQ at January 20, 2019 01:14 PM (zMzA6)

65 When my BIL and his harpy wife come down we do not talk politics. The last time we did that got into a knock down drag out fight. In fact. I generally refuse to go over to MIL's house when they are down.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

66 There's a lot of "Man, i know he's 'Your Guy', but damn I hate that bastard". Going both ways. Which is very much appreciated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (Ct55T)


Oh, I would be OK with that. The leftist yowling I'm talking about is being "woke" generally: praising sanctuary policies, importing more Third World peasants, bleating about "white privilege," asking which pronouns you use, that sort of thing. That gets old, fast.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:15 PM (if8r4)

67 Mentally, I play the Who Goes Nazi game in social gatherings. Though in my case it's Who goes Stasi.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

******

Excellent.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 01:15 PM (0tfLf)

68 I also have colleagues who are raving anti-Trump libs. I don't talk politics with them, since it's a lose-lose proposition.

One guy in my department is useful though. I use the 30-day Facebook snooze feature to remember when to put flea drops on my dog. He starts foaming at the mouth on FB, I dose the dog and hit snooze again.

Posted by: Roy at January 20, 2019 01:16 PM (ABjxW)

69 In my experience it's always the lefty who brings up the politics, often from out of the blue. I sure as hell do not want to stir the pot. I'd rather go on talking about innocuous stuff like the camping trip last weekend or why the Broncos suck.

It's always them. Wreckers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 20, 2019 01:16 PM (FXbwN)

70 57 You really can be friends with lefties.

Boy, that's not at all been the case for me. The few I had remaining hit the low road and there became mutual disassociation. I'm guessing your tolerance level is much greater than mine.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (Tyii7)

You can be friends with lefties, but you can't be friends with assholes.

I have learned that there are lefties who aren't assholes. Which, conversely, I hope means that they have learned that there are righties who aren't assholes.

(now why does spellcheck recognize "lefties" but not "righties"? Interesting... F*ck off, little red squiqqle.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:16 PM (Ct55T)

71 I have exactly one liberal colleague who can discuss anything political without name calling and histrionics, hence politics is banned in my fiefdom. Panic attacks are for patients only

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:16 PM (U7k5w)

72 I guess it comes down to how much you love people.

My friends would walk through fire for me.

And then don a pussy hat (like they did yesterday) and march through the streets of Seattle.

And come to my house for dinner afterwards. Of course, they leave the vagina hats in the car.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 01:17 PM (PkVlr)

73 38 steevy "whiskey too"

i think there have been comments here elsewhere on this, but what the hell is johnny walker doing sponsoring the women's march? why? does their market research show women are a growth segment of whiskey drinkers? are feminists in the boardroom? after 200 years of no particular political affiliation they go activist left (they're producing "resistance" posters) and possibly alienate half their customers.

it makes no sense.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 20, 2019 01:17 PM (Pg+x7)

74 67: Nearly all libs go Stasi, about 75% would go Nazi if Obama asked them to.

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:17 PM (U7k5w)

75 And speaking of wifey, I asked her for a very simply report from her checking account program so I could do taxes for this year. I just started to do the taxes. the crap she sent me was the back-up files from the program which I have nothing that will run them in Windows 10. I also asked for th4e number trips back and forth to Charleston she had made and she didn't give me that at all.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (mpXpK)

76 My Lefty friend ditched me when she found out what I was because she feels that I'm trying to destroy her country and her future.

What country would that be, exactly? And what future?

Has she ever visited a Communist country? I'd recommend the DDR, if it still existed. The most miserable place I've ever seen in my life.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (if8r4)

77 now why does spellcheck recognize "lefties" but not "righties"?

Baseball.

Posted by: Roy at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (ABjxW)

78 I have the same number of radical jihadist bomb vest wearing friends as I do left wing friends for the same reason.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (cCxiu)

79 I have a friend and we have been friends since 6th grade (we are both in our 70's now). Since Trump won the election he has basically dropped communications. It is so sad to lose a close long term friend over politics, especially since we haven't talked politics since Barry Goldwater (AUH2O64).

Posted by: Anchovy at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (B3kya)

80 36 They Politicize Sports, Eating, Dressing, Sitting And Now Shaving?
What's Next?

Whadda ya got?
Posted by: The Left at January 20, 2019 01:07 PM (Qwtw1)

Seriously, we are so lucky to have this place here.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (eJj1Q)

81 There is leftist and then there is squishy liberal, vote-Dem- because-my family-always-has people who are too lazy to rethink their politics. They think it's "nicer" to be liberal because everyone on TV says so. I used to try to convert, but I haven't had success because they are emotionally attached to their politics and simply don't want to consider that they may be wrong. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. But I can get along with those people because there are plenty of other things in life to talk about. Hard core lefty ideologues are another thing entirely. But they wouldn't want to hang around with me and vice versa.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (d6Ksn)

82 My view of the Left mirrors Upton Sinclair, oddly enough: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (yQpMk)

83 There's a lot of "Man, i know he's 'Your Guy', but damn I hate that bastard". Going both ways. Which is very much appreciated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:11 PM (Ct55T)

Oh, I would be OK with that. The leftist yowling I'm talking about is being "woke" generally: praising sanctuary policies, importing more Third World peasants, bleating about "white privilege," asking which pronouns you use, that sort of thing. That gets old, fast.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:15 PM (if8r4)

-------

Exactly. One person is a normal person who is wrong. They should be befriended and persuaded. Failing persuasion, they should be tolerated.

The other is a canal zek.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (5aX2M)

84 That gets old, fast.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:15 PM (if8r4)

Oh, heck yes. Against those people, very often my lefty friends will actually come to my defense and play "devil's advocate" for my side of the argument. Which is awesomely refreshing. They may not agree with me, but they know why they don't agree with me and they reject the "orange man bad" strain of non-argument.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:18 PM (Ct55T)

85 Barbasol is getting into the Razor blade business, I know the Blades aren't made in the USA but the shaving cream is, from the steel in the can to the chemicals are 100% made in the USA. The factory is in Ohio.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (dKiJG)

86 76: I know libs who've gone to Cuba, they treat it like an unspoiled 1950s amusement park

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (U7k5w)

87 Expect that Trump will persist until SOTU, where he'll announce a change.

Then, emergency Wall action now needed, and he'll move forward on that. Got to be ready for the next caravan. Pull funds as needed.

DACA off the table. Dreamers in limbo. "Hey, I tried." Blame Nancy. Trump will wait until courts to reverse the Hawaiian judge, and gain another bargaining chip.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (1UZdv)

88
(now why does spellcheck recognize "lefties" but not "righties"? Interesting... F*ck off, little red squiqqle.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:16 PM


You can right click and 'Add to Dictionary'. I'll be notified of course and look into your background a little. Perhaps drop a picture of an underage boy or girl on your hard drive.

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (jYje5)

89 it makes no sense.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 20, 2019 01:17 PM (Pg+x7)


It's an amazingly stupid own goal on their part. What was the upside, in the best case?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (if8r4)

90 LOL so hard, I'm crying...

One guy in my department is useful though. I use the 30-day Facebook
snooze feature to remember when to put flea drops on my dog. He starts
foaming at the mouth on FB, I dose the dog and hit snooze again.

Posted by: JQ at January 20, 2019 01:20 PM (zMzA6)

91 73 Maybe they really believe "The Future is Female" as one of the posters they had an artist do for the women's march said...

Posted by: steevy at January 20, 2019 01:20 PM (BXMxN)

92 I spread the gospel of Pinochet, rope, and lampposts for the elites in DC, NYC, San Francisco, and Hollywood.

There is no middle ground any longer because they (and the soft center) want me and my family and loved ones dead or replaced.

Fuck them. War!

Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 01:20 PM (nw6G5)

93 it makes no sense.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at January 20, 2019 01:17 PM (Pg+x7)

It is a direct symptom of the modern corporate board having precisely nothing to do with the manufacture, marketing and distribution of the corporation's product.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:21 PM (Ct55T)

94 79: This happened to my husband. They were friends since they were kids in the 1940s. My husband was not gung ho for Obama, so the "friend" told him they could not be friends any more. And he stood by that, it was not an angry moment

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:21 PM (U7k5w)

95 They Politicize Sports, Eating, Dressing, Sitting And Now Shaving?
What's Next?


********

Soon white toilet paper will be made a symbol of racism.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 01:21 PM (0tfLf)

96 I have learned that there are lefties who aren't assholes.

====

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 01:21 PM (pw+jk)

97 What a SWEETIE: Blue check nobody asks his 'fans' to take video of themselves assaulting Covington kid

-
Well, isn't that special?

https://bit.ly/2CwNDoz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

98 CBD > Both of us are sufficiently versed in rhetorical techniques, and pretty damned stubborn.

Alas, I know many stubborn people. Few that could win an honest argument.

Posted by: golfman at January 20, 2019 01:22 PM (GL/05)

99 Perhaps drop a picture of an underage boy or girl on your hard drive.
Posted by: Bob from the NSA at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (jYje5)

Awww, shucks, for reals?

Who says Uncle Sam doesn't look out for the little guy these days?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:22 PM (Ct55T)

100 The FBI has been hiding and twisting facts from the start.

This, from the fantastic Kim Strassel, echoes Ace's post from the other day. What's most frustrating is that the sedition has been permitted to happen by responsible people, Republicans especially. Jeff Sessions, we are looking right at you.

I get that someday Huber will come, and, someday, they will pay. Probably. Maybe. Well, possibly not, but they might be embarrassed by their own behavior or bugged by their consciences. Could happen. Anyway, I'm still pissed off the establishment types didn't step forward to protect the country.


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7jtdum9

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 01:22 PM (Z216Q)

101 In the Gentlemen's Book of Etiquette, the first sentence in chapter 1 says:

"One of the first rules for a guide in polite conversation, is to avoid political or religious discussions in general society."

As true now as when it was first written in 1860.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 20, 2019 01:23 PM (HmZuC)

102 Assumes facts not in evidence.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at January 20, 2019 01:21 PM (pw+jk)

Report of empirical observation. No assumption involved.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:23 PM (Ct55T)

103 (now why does spellcheck recognize "lefties" but not "righties"? Interesting... F*ck off, little red squiqqle.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:16 PM

Bet "Nazis" pops right up.

Posted by: golfman at January 20, 2019 01:23 PM (GL/05)

104 91
73 Maybe they really believe "The Future is Female" as one of the posters they had an artist do for the women's march said...--------------------Yeah, well for this scotch drinker, the future is Dewars. or Cutty, or JB, or anyone else who can keep their damn politics out of adult beverages.

Posted by: Old Dude at January 20, 2019 01:24 PM (LGXGf)

105 Excellent thread, CBD, keep up the hard work!

Ctrl+C

Ctrl+V

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at January 20, 2019 01:24 PM (tVQUs)

106 And the beautiful and charming Kathy Griffin also asks people to harass the Catholic kids.

https://bit.ly/2U2BFKf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 20, 2019 01:24 PM (+y/Ru)

107 76: I know libs who've gone to Cuba, they treat it like an unspoiled 1950s amusement park
Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (U7k5w)

Hahah...yup. A friend of mine recently visited the worker's paradise. Now mind you, this fella only stays at top 5 star hotels and freaks over any little thing not to his liking. He lives and dies by his cell phone (good luck in Cuba).

He returned and was very quiet about the trip. No cell phone, no a/c, very little in the ways of spending his big time liberal lawyer earned bucks on anything other than diseased whores and bad food. A 3rd world shit hole.

Viva La Revolucion!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 01:25 PM (Z+IKu)

108 Why would you want to be friends with people who want you and your family dead and replaced? Even those who are cowards in the soft center who tolerate it? This is the exact reason why our country faces the problems we face now... Tolerance and acting like cowards in the face of evil.

Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 01:25 PM (nw6G5)

109 86 76: I know libs who've gone to Cuba, they treat it like an unspoiled 1950s amusement park
Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:19 PM (U7k5w)


Because it hasn't been ruined by capitalism. Although the usual phrase is a place hasn't been ruined by tourism, but they obviously couldn't say that, as they were tourists.

I suspect part of that was Cuba's sunny climate, which is kind of uplifting. East Berlin was dull, gray, decrepit, full of bombed out buildings from WWII, with everybody walking around looking - and acting - like they'd just come out of a divorce hearing. I think being able to see the happy, prosperous people in West Berlin a few hundred yards away generated a lot of the bad feeling.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:25 PM (if8r4)

110 Then I realized that every silent voice in the presence of lies supports the lies.





No longer.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
-----
Agreed. I was willing to keep it zipped until some a*hole at work started in with the *The constitution must be amended to make abortion a constitutional right.*

The boss told me to try and stop making people cry. I promised I'd try.

(Pinky swear)

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 01:26 PM (9rIkM)

111 Through the power of a complicit media, amateur polling, the FaceBooks and Googles cutting off conservative points of view, they think they are bigger then they really are.
Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:12 PM (jYje5)

They're plenty big. What happens when MC or Visa decides to cut off your credit card processing?

Posted by: golfman at January 20, 2019 01:26 PM (GL/05)

112 104 91
73 Maybe they really believe "The Future is Female" as one of the posters they had an artist do for the women's march said...--------------------Yeah, well for this scotch drinker, the future is Dewars. or Cutty, or JB, or anyone else who can keep their damn politics out of adult beverages.
Posted by: Old Dude at January 20, 2019 01:24 PM (LGXGf)


You'd think Johnny Walker made wine spritzers or something. How many women knock back scotch?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:27 PM (if8r4)

113
The problem is that, at least in my experience, leftists bring up their politics unbidden all the time. Maybe it's a California thing, and leftists assume everyone around them shares their views, but it is routine here to be serenaded with leftist yowling at, e.g., neighborhood get-togethers, parties, business lunches, etc.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:08 PM (if8r4)






That was always my experience when I lived in SoCal. One of the reasons I moved to Texas.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (eXA4G)

114 My lefty friends were stopped short by about 3 questions I would ask after they would ask "How can you vote for Trump?"

1. How many wars has Donald Trump authorized?

2. How many people did Donald Trump leave to die in Bengazi?

3. When did a Clinton care about the treatment of Women.

Posted by: Picric at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (nonGu)

115 108 Why would you want to be friends with people who want you and your family dead and replaced? Even those who are cowards in the soft center who tolerate it? This is the exact reason why our country faces the problems we face now... Tolerance and acting like cowards in the face of evil.
Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 01:25 PM (nw6G5)

I'm not. And they're not.

Why would *they* want to be friends with someone who is a greedy racist white supremacist who wants brown people and poor people and leftists to die?

Because They're not. And I'm not.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (Ct55T)

116 >>But...we don't talk politics!

Same. I have a bunch of Democrat friends. Hard not to given where I've lived nearly all my life.

But they aren't militant and we don't talk politics. No point in it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (/tuJf)

117 Nudity

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 20, 2019 01:29 PM (yQpMk)

118 >>>How many women knock back scotch?


I know of zero. But in fairness, I also have many male friends who hate, hate scotch. Me, I love it.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 20, 2019 01:29 PM (HmZuC)

119 Through the power of a complicit media, amateur polling, the FaceBooks and Googles cutting off conservative points of view, they think they are bigger then they really are.
Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 01:12 PM (jYje5)


It's a classic Red tactic to appear to be the vast majority (e.g., the "Bolsheviks"). It's why every leftist demonstration has a lengthy list of all the organizations that support that demonstration. Which organizations, on investigation, turns out to be permutations and combinations of the same couple dozen people.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2019 01:29 PM (if8r4)

120 An old friend of mine from Scranton told me that paste was not a food group.


I cut off all communication with that stupid SOB.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 20, 2019 01:30 PM (pw+jk)

121 New WeirdDave up

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 20, 2019 01:30 PM (cqNba)

122 My SNL goes out of her way to tell me she hates President Trump. I ask her why? "Oh...I just can't stand him."
No logic at all. She once called him a racist. I asked for an example. Just one.
She hasn't spoken to me since. Works for me.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2019 01:31 PM (0tfLf)

123 Ha ha, it would be fun to make a "The Future is Female" sign with a big Alien Queen on it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 01:32 PM (kQs4Y)

124 101
In the Gentlemen's Book of Etiquette, the first sentence in chapter 1 says:



"One of the first rules for a guide in polite conversation, is to
avoid political or religious discussions in general society."



As true now as when it was first written in 1860.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 20, 2019 01:23 PM (HmZuC)

+++
That is all fine and well except for the fact that Trump is the only one who is even attempting to keep us from catastrophe and we are on the brink.To continue to play nicey-nicey with people who are on the other side and agree with communistic principles, and loathe the American foundation and are out to destroy it brick by brick - well, I am not going to pretend to like them.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 20, 2019 01:32 PM (aWjrD)

125 101 "One of the first rules for a guide in polite conversation, is to avoid political or religious discussions in general society."

As true now as when it was first written in 1860.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 20, 2019 01:23 PM (HmZuC)

This is what I do. High road.

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:32 PM (eJj1Q)

126 Posted yet?

The lady behind the Gillette ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iJgWrO9_oQ


This is Ezra Levant's video about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 01:33 PM (cY3LT)

127 it all depends ... sure it is nice to ignore politics, talk about "real life", and participate in real life.


But there is coming the time (or did we pass it sometime in the last 25 years?) ... a time is coming where anyone supporting the tyranny must be confronted. Obama suggested his fellow travelers "get in their face". And to propel his (or his puppet masters') communist/globalist overthrow of America ... he needed aggressive people to get good people fired/expelled/investigated for failing to submit ... and that has worked, they own much of society.


So there is a breaking point even with the "more civil SJWs" ... where they demand the Boy Scouts be changed, or that you use the xe pronoun, or that the school needs to teach Gore's AGW as real science. There is that point (2009?) where the nice liberal that supports those things is doing massive harm ... as with the coup against Trump.


So it depends, but quietly accepting the overthrow of America is not a very good compromise to attain "peace" with the local SJW "jihadist". The important things in routine life will soon become cold comfort, if we let them take our guns, or form their global currency/government, and it will (before that) be the time to not be nice to any that casually support the tyrants that are destroying our heritage.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 20, 2019 01:34 PM (Cus5s)

128 114 My lefty friends were stopped short by about 3 questions I would ask after they would ask "How can you vote for Trump?"

1. How many wars has Donald Trump authorized?

2. How many people did Donald Trump leave to die in Bengazi?

3. When did a Clinton care about the treatment of Women.
Posted by: Picric at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (nonGu)

Good ones!

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 01:35 PM (eJj1Q)

129 58 My twin sister is in Chicago; I'm in Dallas...we are polar opposites politically. She's in public education; I am in the private sector, always have been.

When Trump was elected I got a scolding...and a very depressed "the country has ended" speech. We stopped speaking for a few weeks after that.

During the midterms she was telling me a vote for any republican is a vote for one-party facist rule..and that in Venzuela, they were just facists masquerading as liberals. I finally told her she and I will never, ever be able to have a political discussion on this, and that we will always disgree.

We've had MUCH better convos after that. There still may come a day when we stop speaking, she's pretty hard-core drunk-the-koolaid leftist type.
Posted by: jerake at January 20, 2019 01:12 PM (ZtQ1a)

---

My sister and I haevn't spoken in years, and may not ever again.

My youngest daughter and I are on the outs, and may never reconcile.

Both are raging lefties.

So excuse me if I don't harbor much faith in friendships with the left.

Posted by: SMH at January 20, 2019 01:37 PM (RU4sa)

130 I live in the People's Democratic Soviet Socialist Republic of Maryland.

I keep my head down and my profile low.

Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at January 20, 2019 01:38 PM (lXZ2r)

131 Even those who are cowards in the soft center who tolerate it?

They are the ones who will turn a blind eye when a "friend" is dragged out of bed in the middle of the night, never to be seen or heard from again.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 20, 2019 01:40 PM (Tyii7)

132 Well, this thread had a short shelf-life.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 20, 2019 01:44 PM (Tyii7)

133 129: I have the same sort of issues with leftist "friends". I have no doubt whatsoever that they'd turn me in to the nearest commissar if given a chance

Posted by: CN at January 20, 2019 01:48 PM (U7k5w)

134 115 108 Why would you want to be friends with people who want you and your family dead and replaced? Even those who are cowards in the soft center who tolerate it? This is the exact reason why our country faces the problems we face now... Tolerance and acting like cowards in the face of evil.
Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 01:25 PM (nw6G5)

I'm not. And they're not.

Why would *they* want to be friends with someone who is a greedy racist white supremacist who wants brown people and poor people and leftists to die?

Because They're not. And I'm not.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2019 01:28 PM (Ct55T)

The center tolerates the every supremacist movement but White, male, and Chrsitian. They suppose the elimination of those 3 groups. They sit in silence.

White Christian males aren't calling for the genocide, killing, and replacement of other people. That's the difference and you know damned well that it is.

The Marxists want Western Civilization dead. Everything that is Christian, White, or men/dads they want gone.

Posted by: literally serious at January 20, 2019 01:53 PM (nw6G5)

135 I would never in my life thought I would belong to an extremist organization, it gets a big laugh with my brothers that I belong to the Knights of Columbus.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 20, 2019 01:56 PM (dKiJG)

136 "5
My best friends are Evergreen State College grads. They are
unbelievably progressive. We don't talk politics. I love them and they
love me.



You really can be friends with lefties.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2019 12:50 PM (PkVlr)"
...
There comes a point where you have to consider the risk of them stabbing you in the back. I no longer think that it's possible for us as a nation to avoid some manner of conflict.

I have a few friends who I don't see eye to eye with on politics, but they've known me long enough to know that they don't want to screw with my family.

Posted by: lurker (the other one) at January 20, 2019 02:01 PM (67XdO)

137 If it hasn't been mentioned before, this,

"Meijer is currently running an ad (valid this week starting today)
for a $5 coupon on your next purchase after spending $25 on PG
products in the same visit."

Is a monthly thing at Meijer. They have a number of every month sales/promotions, this is just one.

Posted by: geoffb at January 20, 2019 02:24 PM (zOpu5)

138 The chick in the last frame of the cartoon kind of does it for me.

I need a life.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at January 20, 2019 02:24 PM (7K9lw)

139 It's only going to be 'nice' until he decides that you need to publicly denounce some 'horrible' behavior by Trump or somebody that he claims is on the right.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 20, 2019 02:26 PM (setIA)

140 My sister is the sweetest person I know. This year, at the family Christmas party, she told me that she wishes Trump and Pence were assassinated.

The irrational hate runs very deep in liberals right now.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at January 20, 2019 02:26 PM (7K9lw)

141 Is this thread dead?

Assuming social justice activism is detrimental enough to a corporation's bottom line, why don't some shareholders somewhere take action? Sue!

Asking for a...me.

Posted by: Blahblah at January 20, 2019 02:33 PM (TO8Xm)

142 Politicizing scotch? Really? I am a 60 year old female scotch drinker. Johnnie Walker scotch will never pass my lips again (after I finish the bottle of Green that my son-in-law gave me for Christmas). I can only hope "get woke, go broke" applies to them!!!

Posted by: Pax78 at January 20, 2019 03:53 PM (CtVqd)

143 I have one of those friends.....
She also pulls double duty as my wife.

Posted by: SpectoVia at January 20, 2019 05:34 PM (kLtTC)

144 will exti​nguish the voices of mor​tal man from the sp​here I can see it can you see ̲͚ ̖͔̙î̩́t̲́̋̀ ͎̩̱͔ it is beautiful t​he final snuffing of the lie​s of Man ALL IS LOŚ͖̏̈́ ̩͇̗̪T ALL I​S LOST the pon̷y he comes he c̶̮omes he comes the ich​or permeates all MY FACE MY FACE ᵒh god no NO NOO̼O​O NΘ stop th

Posted by: Zalgo at January 20, 2019 07:23 PM (t+qrx)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 01-20-2019

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Library/Man Cave of Lurker 'Lord Squirrel' (and Cat)


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, and everybody who's holding your beer. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by escaped oafs who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which only goes to show that some people like to sit on cats.

(h/t Hank Curmudgeon)


Pic Note

I've been a long-time lurker at the ol' Ace o' Spades HQ and have really appreciated the Sunday Book Thread. I was actually inspired by the pics to do something about my own personal library, so last summer I made a few adjustments to how I store and catalog my books. I converted my office into a library of sorts, though it can only house about 1/3 of my fantasy and science fiction collection. The other 2/3 was moved to my living room.

LS's wall art is pretty awesome, too, I'd say. Especially that framed Middle Earth map.



It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

Word of the Day: DYSANIA (n.) difficulty in getting out of bed in the morning.

Usage: Ace cackled with glee when he found out that the cure for his chronic Dysania was bed rest.




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Beach Library, Tel Aviv


Fahrenheit 451 Got It Only Half Right

I was forced to move on to the 1632 series yesterday when I completed the book I was working on and the next in the series would have required a download while my internet service was out. I would sure like to know why Amazon retracts your download of a book if you have not opened it for a while. I have been caught on this crap before when I went down to GA to look after uncle in brother's camp house at a lake which had no internet service. When you pay for and download a book from Amazon it should be in your memory forever.

Posted by: Vic at January 13, 2019 09:01 AM (mpXpK)


I have the Kindle app on my Samsung tablet, and I hadn't noticed what Vic is complaining about here, but this brings up something we need to always keep in mind. When you buy ebooks from Amazon, or Apple, or Google, you don't really own them, despite the fact that you've pay for them. In the first place, the Kindle books on your device are wrapped in a DRM layer which which incorporates the debit or credit card you used for the purchase into the encryption. This prevents you from copying the ebook file to a thumb driving and giving it as a "pirate" edition to someone else who hasn't puchased it. And if you've changed or updated your card information in your Amazon account, I believe it has to reverify and update the DRM on each of your previously purchased Kindle books. This may account for what Vic is seeing. Maybe.

This necessity of continual contact with the Amazon mother ship also means that it is they, not you, who ultimately control the content. This is something I find this to be especially insidious. Because occasionally I will open up a Kindle book and Amazon informs me that they are "updating" the content of the book I purchased. They don't ask my permission, they just automatically do it. The possibility that I might not want an updated copy is apparently of no importance to them.

So who decides what content gets added to your "updated" book, and what content gets removed? I don't know. And what is their criteria for deciding what edits to make? I don't know. Who ultimately determines what you're allowed to read? I don't know. Not you. That's all I know.

A few months ago, I ran into some guy on Twitter who said that a couple of movies that he had purchased (not rented, purchased outright) from Apple disappeared from his movie library. When he contacted Apple support, they told him, "oh, those movies are no longer available in your area" (which was Canada). When he complained, Apple offered him a couple of coupons for free movie rentals. And that was the end of that.

I know that incident was about movies, not books, but still, the principle is the same. It is not a stretch to imagine this message popping up on your Kindle: "We removed this book from your library because we have determined it contains hate speech." Or "We've update your edition of Huckleberry Finn to removed racist language."

And then what will you do?

Here is my thinking: Every Kindle and Nook ebook I have purchased I am holding on to lightly. They're not trustworthy and the content could be altered or disappear at any moment. Whenever I can, I use outlets such as Baen Books where I can buy ebook files not encrusted with DRM that I can store on one of my archival hard drives. If I have purchased a Kindle book that I very much want to keep, I have no qualms about going online and finding a non-DRM version I can keep for myself and Amazon can go pee up a rope.

Ultimately, this means that the best guarantors of our freedom to think is (drum roll) brick-and-mortar libraries. Because they contain actual hard copies of books. Because all that can happen to them is they can be confiscated or destroyed. They can't be edited or deleted without anybody noticing, and where you think what you're reading is what the author wrote, but what you're actually reading is only that which has been permitted by the censors of Amazon or Google.

And when some silly bint writes that you should never own more than about 30 books, she can go pee up a rope, too. A free people aren't really free until they can think freely, and for that, they need books. Lots and lots of books.


Moron Recommendations

119 Also this week, I downloaded The Man From the Train by Bill James, recommended here by one a youse morons. I'm listening to it on my way home from work.

True crime regarding a series of axe murders (of entire families! ) in the early 1900s, in different states, which no one connected then. James believes they were committed by the same person, travelling by train, but that they were never connected because we lacked the communication and informational networks of today.

I'm going to have to get hard copy, though, because I get focused on driving (yay, right? ) and lose some of the story.

Posted by: April at January 13, 2019 09:51 AM (OX9vb)

Yes, I suppose you could get away with all kinds of sh* back in the old days. Before he passed, my father caught the 'ancestry.com' bug and devoted a lot of time trying to trace family roots. It wasn't made any easier by his grandfather who, one day, just up and walked out on his wife and kids, and disappeared. Dad managed to track him down to Oklahoma Territory where he had a new wife and kids, and a whole new life. You can't do that nowadays.

Anyway, The Man from the Train: The Solving of a Century-Old Serial Killer Mystery investigates, as April says, a number of horrific murders that happened around the turn of last century:

Between 1898 and 1912, families across the country were bludgeoned in their sleep with the blunt side of an axe. Some of these cases—like the infamous Villisca, Iowa, murders—received national attention. But most incidents went almost unnoticed outside the communities in which they occurred. Few people believed the crimes were related. And fewer still would realize that all of these families lived within walking distance to a train station. When celebrated true crime expert Bill James first learned about these horrors, he began to investigate others that might fit the same pattern. Applying the same know-how he brings to his legendary baseball analysis, he empirically determined which crimes were committed by the same person. Then after sifting through thousands of local newspapers, court transcripts, and public records, he and his daughter Rachel made an astonishing discovery: they learned the true identity of this monstrous criminal and uncovered one of the deadliest serial killers in America.

I can just see a guy in some tiny attic looking at a wall full of old photos and newspaper clippings with different lengths of colored yarn going every which way, manically connecting everything.

Bill James, by the way, is known chiefly for his The Bill James Handbook, an annual compilation of baseball statistics. Apparently, James invented some sort of statistical tool for baseball analysis called 'The Shift' but I'm not going to tell you about it because I don't know what it is and I'm too lazy to look it up. And if you're a big time baseball fan, you probably already know all about it, anyway.

Wait, isn't James the guy behind the whole Moneyball thing?


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280
I'm about 150 pages into "The Prize" by Daniel Yergin.

This book is so interesting. It's about the discovery of oil and the making/or losing of many vast fortunes in the industry.

It won the pulitzer prize....but, don't let that stop you from checking it out. It's a gem so far. I hope it stays on point the rest of the way.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at January 13, 2019 11:03 AM (u95+k)

According to the Amazon blurb, The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power is considered

..."the best history of oil ever written" by Business Week and with more than 300,000 copies in print, Daniel Yergin’s Pulitzer Prize–winning account of the global pursuit of oil, money, and power has been extensively updated to address the current energy crisis.

What I know about oil is that it saved whales. Specifically, John D. Rockefeller, ruthless businessman, evil tycoon, and greedy capitalist pig saved the whales when he made the production of kerosene economically viable. Prior to that, the primary fuel used in America was whale oil and whales were been hunted to extinction to meet the ever-increasing demand.

So thank you, evil, greedy, capitalist white man! You saved the planet.

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Books By Morons

This is going to be good. A lurkette author e-mailed me this week to tell me about her Under the Staircase® series of children's books which is described as

A mystery and adventure series that teaches treasured values: personal responsibility, individual liberty, and economic freedom.

The Secret Under the Staircase is the first in the series:

“So, you’re the ones…”
A mysterious package appears just as Maya and Nate start helping in their grandparents’ store. Inside is just one book: a faded copy of Free to Choose. In a race against time, they must decipher a series of cryptic messages to discover the secret under the staircase. But can a bunch of kids really solve the centuries-old riddle? Can they save their beloved town before it’s too late?

There is one sequel so far, The Hidden Entrance, and I assume there will be more coming. I hope there will be more coming because this series looks like it's going to be completely awesome for kids. Occasionally, I've seen questions in the comments from morons looking for suitable books for their children (or grandchildren), and this series, which one Amazon review describes as "Harry Potter meets Ayn Rand" sounds like it would be just about perfect.

I asked the author what would be the appropriate age range for this book. She replied:

The age range is 6-12. It’s written so that kids age 6-9 understand the books, and kids age 9-12 have fun digging into the layers. Each book is about 120 pages, with 12 chapters, plus a prologue to set the stage and an epilogue to tease the next book.

This lurkette also is the one who sent me the above pic of the beach library in Tel Aviv (on the Mediterranean).


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

[Update]: Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer's book, Gosnell: The Untold Story of America's Most Prolific Serial Killer is on sale for 99 cents on Kindle today.

Meanwhile, their Gosnell movie DVD, which current is the #1 top selling DVD on Amazon, can be pre-ordered for the insanely reasonable price of $9.99.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:30 AM




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1 [H]e described a sort of pool with a margin of mud that was marled with obscene offal; and in the pool a grayish, horrid mass that nearly choked it from rim to rim... Here, it seemed, was the ultimate source of all miscreation and abomination. For the gray mass quobbed and quivered, and swelled perpetually; and from it, in manifold fission, were spawned the anatomies that crept away on every side through the grotto. There were things like bodiless legs or arms that flailed in the slime, or heads that rolled, or floundering bellies with fishes' fins; and all manner of things malformed and monstrous, that grew in size as they departed from the neighborhood of Abhoth. And those that swam not swiftly ashore when they fell into the pool from Abhoth, were devoured by mouths that gaped in the parent bulk.

—Clark Ashton Smith, The Seven Geases

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:27 AM (kQs4Y)

2 Thanks OM

Posted by: Drc at January 20, 2019 09:27 AM (llGBY)

3 Still working on the Elemental Masters series by Mercedes Lackey, on book 10 now. Took a break and went to a new book I had not read beforfe when Amazon had a one day saleon it. Turbned out it was a book of short stories. I do not like short stories so went bck to the elemental masters.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:27 AM (mpXpK)

4 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 09:28 AM (/rm4P)

5 Good morning.

Still working on "The Art of the Deal." Easy read, just finding the time to read is difficult, what with home repairs and a full time job.

Still amazes me just how dumb pundits and our political class is that they weren't smart enough to read the book in order to find out just who they are dealing with.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (WEBkv)

6 I read The Maps of the Bristoe Station and Mine Run Campaigns by Bradley M. Gottfried. Published in 2013, it is an atlas of the troop movements in the "Iron Triangle" between the Rappahannock and Rapidan Rivers that took place after the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863. The Union's Army of the Potomac (under Meade) is attempting to finish off the Confederacy's Army of Northern Virginia (under R.E. Lee). The maps are generally sufficient and explanatory text is always on the opposite facing page, so the reader does not have to flip pages looking for a particular map. It is intended as a high-level survey of a generally ignored period of the American Civil War in order to give the reader a starting point for deeper study; both armies are shadows of their former selves after Gettysburg (the Union in quality and the Confederates in manpower and equipment) and can't land decisive blows. A pretty detailed bibliography is provided and the author frequently quotes participants so that the reader can get a better appreciation of what they were thinking or seeing. I would have liked a couple of tables of troop strength for the major engagements. Rating = 4.0/5.

This is the fifth in a series of American Civil War atlases published by Savas Beatie.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (5Yee7)

7 Lord Skwerl, I love your library! Cat tested and approved.

I like that version of Middle Earth. Wish I still had my Pauline Baynes map. At least I still have my Narnia map (framed).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (kQs4Y)

8 I see he has a lot of the same books as me.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

9 Was this [ ] close to getting the book Ashes in the Snow, the novel of a teenage girl in Lithuania in 1940 but halted because it is for well teenagers. Now that isn't always a turn off as have read many stories for that age. Really want to see the movie but that will not happen for a long time.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (/rm4P)

10 Beaches Bikinis & books, in that order.....

Posted by: saf at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (5IHGB)

11 Still reading the Sheriff Weber series!

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 20, 2019 09:31 AM (JFO2v)

12 Re-reading de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America". Because in New York, I'm living all the worst parts of the tyranny of a majority.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2019 09:31 AM (LNmq+)

13 That's a very cool map of Middle Earth.

I don't think I have seen one that size before.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 20, 2019 09:32 AM (438dO)

14 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a fun week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 09:32 AM (bmdz3)

15 Are those cover prints on the wall to the left, or the full issues?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 09:33 AM (t+qrx)

16 Love the man cave, especially that framed large map of Middle-earth.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 09:33 AM (bmdz3)

17 Do they have oversized books for a nude beach?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2019 09:33 AM (LNmq+)

18 I’m enjoying my skimming of Herodotus’s “The Histories”, especially Part Four, which is a kind of “Cavalcade of Crazy Barbarian Folkways”:

- Beyond the tribe of completely bald people lie mountains inhabited by a goat-footed race, beyond which, still further north, are men who sleep for six months out of the year (this last one seems pretty unbelievable, even to Herodotus).

- The pastoral Budini eat lice.

- The Gyzantes paint themselves red and eat monkeys. (I was very jazzed to find this passage! It was in one of our book threads.)

- Beyond the one-eyed Arimaspians and the gold-guarding griffons are the Hyperboreans, about whom little is known. ((Per Wiki: “It has been suggested that the griffins were inferred from the fossilized bones of Protoceratops.”

- The Scythians jam a flute into a mare’s anus and blow to make the udders inflate, and while one blows, another person milks it (the mare, that is).

- The Massagetae “have one way only to determine the appropriate time to die, namely this: when a man is very old, all his relatives give him a party and include him in a general sacrifice of cattle; then they boil the flesh and eat it. This they consider the best sort of death.”

Here is the Scythian queen Tomyris, who defeated Cyrus and stuck his severed head in a bag of blood, saying “See now, I fulfill my threat – you have your fill of blood!”:

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/tomyris.html


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:34 AM (kQs4Y)

19 That's a cat?.....looks kinda like a bowling ball.

Posted by: BignJames at January 20, 2019 09:34 AM (cxHbL)

20 Next up: "Hunting the Elephant in Africa" by C H Stigand which covers his hunting exploits from the 1890s to 1919. I'm sure PETA would approve.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 20, 2019 09:34 AM (CNIne)

21 My tractor user manual came this week!! For something like that I want a printed book, even when the electronic version is free.

As a matter of fact, I prefer printed books, period. I have a lot of ebooks, just really like a big fat printed book better.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 09:35 AM (4/11p)

22 The cat is watching cat videos...I can tell...

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 09:35 AM (bUjCl)

23 Books are for fagz. I'm severely heterosexual. Therefore I don't read books.

Posted by: Cory Booker at January 20, 2019 09:36 AM (NWiLs)

24 Read "The Road Past Mandalay" by John Masters. He was a British officer who served with the 4th Gurkha Rifles in India and the Middle East, where they fought the Vichy French, and later with Orde Wingate's Chindits in Burma.

Sent to Iraq in April 1941 he writes; Mr. Hopkins, President Roosevelt's special envoy, went to Iraq a little later and remarked to a British general, "The Persian Gulf is the arsehole of the world, and Basra is eighty miles up it." It was to this exact spot we were now to be sent, as a form of military enema.

Feb 1942 he was sent to the Staff College course at Quetta, India (now Pakistan). He writes of Quetta; But Quetta was not dull. It was electric. Something in the air produced pregnancy in the childless, nymphomia in the frigid, larceny in the respectable, and scandals of wonderful variety.

He has a very descriptive writing style and this is one of the best memoirs of a combat soldier I've ever read. His account of the duties of a staff officer is at times a hoot, and he is brutally honest about what took place in the CBI Theater, especially the battles he fought. Veterans often said CBI meant "Confusion Beyond Imagination."

He also mentions two actors that served in the CBI Theater while he was there. English actor Bill Travers, who was in the 9th Gurkha Rifles (Chindits), would star with his wife in "Born Free", and American actor Jackie Coogan (whom he met) was a glider pilot in the USAAF 1st Air Commando's. He starred as the kid in "The Kid" with Charlie Chaplin, and later played Uncle Fester in "The Addams Family."

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at January 20, 2019 09:36 AM (5jAa5)

25 Morning everyone!

Mine Run is an interesting campaign because it's mostly overlooked. It's also a rare instance where the Army of the Potomac didn't blunder into battle after the campaign plan came apart.

I've seen varying opinions on whether Meade was right to terminate the offensive at such an early stage, but I think on balance he was right, knowing what he knew at the time.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 09:36 AM (cfSRQ)

26 I download all my Amazon ebooks and run them through a de-DRM program. It isn't illegal, so long as you don't give them away, and you can also use different e-readers after they are stripped.

Posted by: Heresolong at January 20, 2019 09:36 AM (IlQAA)

27 The sand of the desert of Yondo is not as the sand of other deserts; for Yondo lies nearest of all to the world's rim; and strange winds, blowing from a gulf no astronomer may hope to fathom, have sown its ruinous fields with the gray dust of corroding planets, the black ashes of extinguished suns. The dark, orblike mountains which rise from its wrinkled and pitted plains are not all its own, for some are fallen asteroids half-buried in that abysmal sand. Things have crept in from nether space, whose incursion is forbid by the gods of all proper and well-ordered lands; but there are no such gods in Yondo, where live the hoary genii of stars abolished, and decrepit demons left homeless by the destruction of antiquated hells.

From Hyperborea, Clark Ahton Smith. One of the most amazing fantasy paragraphs in the history of weird fantasy.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 20, 2019 09:37 AM (2lndx)

28 There's a ton of Bill James in this house; The Man From the Train is the only one I haven't read, and didn't buy. My wife is the one into true crime stories. I prefer my murders to make sense, Conan Doyle style.

And, BTW, "the Shift" isn't a stat tool he invented. (He's come up with many, though.) It's a tactic for defense against certain batters, most famously Ted Williams, though it dates back further than that.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:37 AM (VaN/j)

29 And if you've changed or updated your card information in your Amazon
account, I believe it has to reverify and update the DRM on each of your
previously purchased Kindle books. This may account for what Vic is
seeing. Maybe.


Haven't changed my credit card. I've had the same one forever. But when I call up my library all the books are shown sorted by Author (which I did by hand). Those which have the actual book which can been opened have a "check mark" on the front cover. Those that have not been opened for a while do not have the check mark and must be downloaded again. But this only applies to the books I have bought through Amazon. Some of the ones I have were bought from the publisher direct and they have a check mark that never goes away.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:37 AM (mpXpK)

30 OM sent us to the cornfield again!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (kQs4Y)

31 I thought the boxed set of 3 books on the back shelf was The Lord of the Rings trilogy.. Looks just like my boxed set..

til I zoomed in.. it's Calvin & Hobbes! D'OH!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (438dO)

32 That is why I never have, and never will, purchase an "eReader", nor digital download. Straight hardcopies for me.

Posted by: Kingsnake at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (3JbJY)

33 - Beyond the one-eyed Arimaspians and the gold-guarding griffons are the Hyperboreans, about whom little is known.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:34 AM (kQs4Y)


Oh, isn't that where the Cimmerians are from?

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (t+qrx)

34 I'm supposed to be reading Entrusted by Beth Moore for my new Bible study that started last week...yet, here I am....
I also suffer from dysania...I wake up ok but I have a hard time getting out of bed and going. This blog doesn't help. It can take me several hours to get going on weekends if I have no where I have to be.

Posted by: lin-duh galt at January 20, 2019 09:39 AM (kufk0)

35 OM updating again?

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 20, 2019 09:39 AM (GwY6O)

36 I refuse to use e-readers. Real paper for me. Not only do I avoid deplatforming that way, but after spending multiple hours in front of a screen all day, the last thing I want to do is relax in front of another. Easier on my eyes as well.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 20, 2019 09:39 AM (LjTrW)

37 I have had books disappear from my Amazon account and books disappear from my Kindle app on my
Samsung tablet.

Posted by: Abby at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (nHQd6)

38 When you buy ebooks from Amazon, or Apple, or Google, you don't really own them,


*******

Kindle - a limerick

If you find that your e-books are dwindling
It could be 'cause Amazon's swindling
Fahrenheit Four-Five-One
The fun has just begun
You can't start a fire without Kindle-ing

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (m45I2)

39 What happened, is happening?

Am I finally having one of those flashbacks I was warned about years ago?

Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (RfzVr)

40
I download all my Amazon ebooks and run them through a de-DRM program. It isn't illegal, so long as you don't give them away, and you can also use different e-readers after they are stripped.

Posted by: Heresolong at January 20, 2019 09:36


There you go. I assumed someone could easily crack that DRM nonsense.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (jYje5)

41 30 OM sent us to the cornfield again!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (kQs4Y)

My people call it maize.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (NWiLs)

42 Good morning, all! I didn't do much reading this week - a couple of Robert Barnard mysteries, both of which I had read before but so long ago that I had mostly forgotten who-dunnit.
I do recommend Robert Barnard, BTW: Out of the Blackout and Skeleton in the Grass are both terrific reads. I rather like his books because most of them aren't a series with one investigator solving mysteries: they are free-standing novels, with a mystery at the heart.
Other than that - busy with setting up to renovate the master bathroom in my little house. All the stuff ordered for it is trickling in, and Neighborhood Handy Guy is coming at mid-week to start work. As to how long it will take? NHG boogies to the beat of a different drummer, but he does excellent work, so I am prepared to be indulgent.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 20, 2019 09:41 AM (xnmPy)

43 Nice one, Muldoon!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 20, 2019 09:41 AM (438dO)

44 "...the gray dust of corroding planets, the black ashes of extinguished suns."
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Amazing. And rather Metal.

Who else but CAS can write thusly?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:41 AM (kQs4Y)

45 Awesome! I've now made both the (almost) World Famous Ace o' Spades Pet Thread (TM) and the Book Thread!
My cat photobombed my picture, simply by accident.
Yes, I'm sure I have a lot of the same books as other members of the Moron Horde, but I also have quite a few more "exotic" texts. At the moment I'm reading Dave Duncan's Seventh Sword series, which is quite good. Got a great deal on the entire series on Kindle for about $2-3.


Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 20, 2019 09:41 AM (y3dEv)

46 30 OM sent us to the cornfield again!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (kQs4Y)


You ever try to get up in the middle of the night and not disturb anyone else, and you accidentally strep into a wastepaper basket, fall down, knock the telephone off the table, fall on your butt, and make a loud noise which defeats your entire purpose of sneaking around undected?

Well, that was me just now.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:42 AM (qmw9b)

47 OM sent us to the cornfield again!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:38 AM (kQs4Y)

My people call it maize.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (NWiLs)


Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 09:42 AM (t+qrx)

48 26
I download all my Amazon ebooks and run them through a de-DRM program.
It isn't illegal, so long as you don't give them away, and you can also
use different e-readers after they are stripped.


Posted by: Heresolong at January 20, 2019 09:36 AM (IlQAA)

I have never been able to get a DRM removal app to work. But I haven't tried it since I got this new computer with Windows 10. May have to go back and get new app.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (mpXpK)

49 In reading news, I finished The Coming Fury and am now going through Terrible Swift Sword.

Someone last week mentioned a movie called "April 9" and I watched it that afternoon. It was okay and I enjoyed the detail of the Danish military equipment (I've added a Bergmann-Bayard pistol to my list of future purchases), but otherwise it didn't really hold my attention.

The whole Danish campaign lasted about as long as the movie itself and the entire "war" had less deaths than a mid-sized plane crash.

I found "Anthropoid" much more interesting. Same era, same genre, much more intense.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (cfSRQ)

50 My mom always admonished "Don't read books at the beach, you'll get sand in your appendix!"

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (m45I2)

51 Very good, Muldoon!

Posted by: Dr Alice at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (lBBGI)

52 I download all my Amazon ebooks and run them through a de-DRM program.

Posted by: Heresolong at January 20, 2019 09:36 AM (IlQAA)

Interesting! And useful.

How about a step-by-step explanation?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (bH0xb)

53 booken morgen horden!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (BJlbN)

54 accidentally strep into a wastepaper basket,

My staph usually handles that for me.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (NWiLs)

55 I download all my Amazon ebooks and run them through a de-DRM program. It isn't illegal, so long as you don't give them away, and you can also use different e-readers after they are stripped.

Posted by: Heresolong at January 20, 2019 09:36


Where can I get this de-DRM app?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (qmw9b)

56 This week has been thriller week at chez Follywood. I've read several Demille books, an author I haven't read before and am not really impressed by now, a couple of Reacher books (also meh), and the first two books in Russell Blake's series about Artemus Black, failed musician and now Hollywood detective.
I like the Black series, and the books I read were free on Kindle.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 09:44 AM (Z216Q)

57 nice library!

did Cat eat Lord Squirrel?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 09:44 AM (BJlbN)

58 I had a slight case of DYSANIA back in 2016..but ex-NASA engineers designed a special kind of bed for me. It catapults me right up !

Posted by: Hillary ! at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (bUjCl)

59 And when some silly bint writes that you should never own more than about 30 books, she can go pee up a rope, too. A free people aren't really free until they can think freely, and for that, they need books. Lots and lots of books.

I suppose for some mini-intellects, 30 is a lot. And that quota makes it sure she'll stay that way.

OTOH, I cannot deny there is such a thing as too many. At least in the sense that I can rarely find what I'm looking for. Add in the fact that my memory tends to be wiped clean the moment I put something down, and it's a problem, unless my wife can find it. As she often can; at her best she'll see me walking around, looking confused, and say "You put it on the end table, behind the navy books."

And we're pikers. I have a friend who has become so obsessive that he's buying books he knows he will never read. He's really getting to be like Smaugh, sitting on a pile of loot which is no use to him. At least Scrooge McDuck could swim in his money.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (VaN/j)

60 "Ultimately, this means that the best guarantors of our freedom to think is (drum roll) brick-and-mortar libraries."

That's a catch 22, taxpayers are already wondering why every city is spending a ton of money on libraries if everything is on the internet. Libraries are turning into climate controlled archives.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (4thlk)

61 35 OM updating again?

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 20, 2019 09:39 AM (GwY6O)


Shut up. You didn't see nothing. You can't prove anything.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (qmw9b)

62 My people call it maize.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (NWiLs)

=====

"Children of the Maize" does not have the same ring to it ...

Posted by: Kingsnake at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (3JbJY)

63 A lurkette author e-mailed me this week to tell me about her Under the Staircase series of children's books which is described as

A mystery and adventure series that teaches treasured values: personal responsibility, individual liberty, and economic freedom.
The Secret Under the Staircase is the first in the series:
...
There is one sequel so far, The Hidden Entrance, and I assume there will be more coming....which one Amazon review describes as "Harry Potter meets Ayn Rand" sounds like it would be just about perfect.

I asked the author what would be the appropriate age range for this book. She replied:

The age range is 6-12.


Ordered both because I have two grandsons (brothers) in that age group. I think they will like the economic concepts because they LOVE a boardgame called "Hotel Tycoon."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 20, 2019 09:47 AM (5Yee7)

64
This looks like a good blog post with step-by-step instructions for de-DRMing.



https://www.ismoothblog.com/2013/06/dedrm-ebooks-calibre-drm-
removal.html

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 09:47 AM (jYje5)

65 Middle Earth? Holy shit dude.

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 09:47 AM (3HNOQ)

66 Well, that was me just now.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:42 AM (qmw9b)

not without letting loose a looong stream of expletives.

Posted by: BignJames at January 20, 2019 09:48 AM (cxHbL)

67 This is the DRM removal app everyone was recommending a few years ago. And it is free


Calibre Free eBook Manager and eBook DRM removal freeware. Just do a search on that name.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

68 Solution to Kindle issues - dl the books to your desktop using the Kindle app.
Download the free ebook tool Calibre at : https://calibre-ebook.com/

Convert to a non-DRM file in any format you want with the copy having a unique filename.

Done. Forever.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 20, 2019 09:48 AM (c1VpD)

69 This week I read an excellent thriller, The Woman in the Window by A. J. Finn. Anna Fox is a child psychologist suffering from agoraphobia. She's been home-bound for eleven months and spends her days guzzling Merlot, watching old blank and white movies, and sitting at various windows spying on her neighbors with her Nikon camera equipped with a telephoto lens. When she observes a crime being committed, her world crashes and her life is in danger.

I also read another thriller, The Fear Index by Robert Harris. Dr Alex Hoffmann has developed an AI that predicts movements in financial markets. An intruder into his $60 million mansion in Geneva sets off a wave of nightmares, paranoia, and violence. Lots of suspense and an interesting look into financial trading by algorithms.

Finally, I went back to a series I was reading years ago. I read The Raven in the Foregate, the twelfth in the Brother Cadfael series by Ellis Peters. Set in Shrewsbury, England in 1141, Brother Cadfael is a herbalist/detective monk. In this a priest new to a parish, but there long enough to make quite a few enemies, is found dead floating in the mill pond of the Abby on Christmas Day. It's up to Cadfael to determine what happened.

Posted by: Zoltan at January 20, 2019 09:48 AM (u1x0c)

70 Still working on "The Art of the Deal." Easy read, just finding the time to read is difficult, what with home repairs and a full time job.

Still amazes me just how dumb pundits and our political class is that they weren't smart enough to read the book in order to find out just who they are dealing with.
Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (WEBkv)


Ssssshh! Quiet, you! Their stupidity is our salvation.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:48 AM (qmw9b)

71 60
"Ultimately, this means that the best guarantors of our freedom to think is (drum roll) brick-and-mortar libraries."

That's
a catch 22, taxpayers are already wondering why every city is spending a
ton of money on libraries if everything is on the internet. Libraries
are turning into climate controlled archives.


Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (4thlk)

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My local library has been thinning its book collection steadily.

Back in the 80s every available space was packed. Now the shelves are very lightly used.

It's mostly a meeting place, and since it's next to the high school, kids go there to study or converse. They also do "free" dvd rentals since the other rental joints went out of business (hmmm, wonder why?).

Their book collection is spotty at best. I dropped by the military history section and they had fragments of a number of series. Pretty much useless.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 09:49 AM (cfSRQ)

72 Ultimately, this means that the best guarantors of our freedom to think is (drum roll) brick-and-mortar libraries. Because they contain actual hard copies of books.

==

Libraries have to cull books regularly to make space for new books

Books that don't get checked out a lot get tossed
So encourage ppl to check out your favorite library books!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 09:49 AM (BJlbN)

73 Who else but CAS can write thusly?

Like coke in green glass bottles, they don't make it any more.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 20, 2019 09:50 AM (2lndx)

74 accidentally strep into a wastepaper basket,

My staph usually handles that for me.


********


It's a cultural thing.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 09:50 AM (m45I2)

75 a word of caution, this DRM removal tool is some kind of plugin from an unknown source

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 09:50 AM (bUjCl)

76 OregonMuse makes a very good point about DRM for books. Just recently, I read Brandt Legg's The Last Librarian. The basic premise is that a plague wiped out much of humanity and the survivors formed a world government that has total control over the population, including the information they can access. ALL content is now online, except for one brick-and-mortar library in Oregon that houses the last remaining million or so printed books. Naturally, the world government wants to burn it down, so the titular last librarian attempts to rescue around 100,000 books for posterity. Many books have already been significantly altered. The Hunger Games, for instance, is now a popular cookbook. As books go, it's not bad (solid "B" for content), and references to Fahrenheit 451 abound. This is the first book in a series, and was available for free on Amazon Kindle. May want to try it out...

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 20, 2019 09:50 AM (y3dEv)

77 I've been plugging The Prize.

Yergin's day job is being an oil industry consultant, so he's got breadth of understanding.

The Prize is a history of the oil industry, but it doubles as an insightful history of the 20th Century. e.g. WII was all about the oil.

There's a priceless chapter about how the US figured out what was underground in Saudi Arabia and stole influence away from the Brits, who focused on Iran.

I bought the successor book The Quest but's in shitty small type that I can]t read well.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 09:50 AM (1UZdv)

78 Posted by: Zoltan at January 20, 2019 09:48 AM (u1x0c)

I feel like we're twins this week.

I'm also reading The Woman in the Window. There were 250+ holds on it ahead of me at the liberry. It's kind of a retelling of Rear Window.

I've also got The Fear Index on my nightstand (among many others!) so who knows if I'll get to it before it's due back.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at January 20, 2019 09:51 AM (tGSHk)

79 Oh, I forgot the best book of the week, Walter Mosley's "Devil In A Blue Dress".

That one was outstanding.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 09:51 AM (Z216Q)

80 9 Was this [ ] close to getting the book Ashes in the Snow, the novel of a teenage girl in Lithuania in 1940 but halted because it is for well teenagers. Now that isn't always a turn off as have read many stories for that age. Really want to see the movie but that will not happen for a long time.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 09:30 AM (/rm4P)


I have acquired the movie version of this book, but haven't watched it, yet.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (qmw9b)

81 I finished The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe and am now on book three of the Narnia series (based on internal chronology), A Horse and His Boy. As a kid I enjoyed this look at the southern reaches of the world, Archenland and Calormen, just as Silver Chair showed us the wilds of the far north.

This one is considered by some to be Problematic as the Calormenes are obviously based on Arab culture and worship a vengeful false god, Tash.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)

82 #75, false. Calibre is well known and open source.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (c1VpD)

83 I love the library Lord Squirrel. A man with that kind of library needs to lurk less and post more.

Posted by: josephistan at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (Izzlo)

84 60 "Ultimately, this means that the best guarantors of our freedom to think is (drum roll) brick-and-mortar libraries."

That's a catch 22, taxpayers are already wondering why every city is spending a ton of money on libraries if everything is on the internet. Libraries are turning into climate controlled archives.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (4thlk)


Probably true. One indicator is that the sale racks' pickings have gotten slimmer and slimmer. They used to be a major resource for my wife and me.

True story about that: One time in the early 90s I was in the main city library, looking at the sale racks. There was some honcho I'd never seen before, telling the librarian to change the prices. They were a dime for paper, quarter for hardback.

So they went up to .25 for paper, and .50 for hardbacks. And, wonder of wonders, the books stopped moving. Next time I went by I saw the same books that'd been there before.

That's in indication of how the mind of officialdom works. Walter Williams could have gotten a column or two out of it.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (VaN/j)

85
Libraries have to cull books regularly to make space for new books



Books that don't get checked out a lot get tossed

So encourage ppl to check out your favorite library books!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 09:49 AM (BJlbN)

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I should add with all the reference materials being online (and yes, they have computer stations for public use), it's primary purpose seems to be to buy books for older women who don't want to pay for them.

My mother is an a library board in a different town, and while she's a voracious reader, she doesn't have to buy any of the books. The taxpayers do it for her. Same here.

The book collection leans heavily to female-friendly fiction. My tax dollars at work.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)

86 #75, false. Calibre is well known and open source.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (c1VpD)

OK; I stand corrected

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 09:53 AM (bUjCl)

87 "the best book of the week, Walter Mosley's "Devil In A Blue Dress".

Sadly, it got made into a movie with Denzel Washington, Don Cheadle and Jennifer Beals that should have been great, but wasn't.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 09:55 AM (1UZdv)

88 Mine Run is an interesting campaign because it's mostly overlooked. It's also a rare instance where the Army of the Potomac didn't blunder into battle after the campaign plan came apart.

In one of Turtledove's alternate history stories, the pivot takes place where Lee sets up his troops in a wedge behind a bend in (I think) the Rapidan tempting Meade to split his forces. In real life, Meade doesn't falll for it; in the story he does and Lee overpowers the separate factions and goes on to take DC.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 20, 2019 09:55 AM (qc+VF)

89 Libraries have to cull books regularly to make space for new books

Books that don't get checked out a lot get tossed
So encourage ppl to check out your favorite library books!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 09:49 AM (BJlbN)
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This was a minor plot point in Bellwether. A librarian would check out obscure but significant books she liked just to keep them in circulation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:55 AM (kQs4Y)

90 The comments on Kindle books are good. I only use my Kindle for fiction. My library, which is not in one room but all through the house, is mostly non-fiction and includes 8 bookcases overflowing..

Posted by: Mike K at January 20, 2019 09:56 AM (s170V)

91 I've been listening to Plato's (?) Ethics and am in part three. I was somewhat surprised to find that the ethics he discusses track pretty well with our, or at least my, understanding of the meaning as opposed to the "might makes right" of heroic Greece. Much of it is fairly close to a Christian understanding of ethics, although we have the advantage of prayer in judging what is the right degree of action and the truly correct time to act.

I think Trump is pretty close to the "magnificent" man that he discusses at one point, although Trump is much more active and energetic than Plato's assumed example.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 20, 2019 09:56 AM (uquGJ)

92 Currently reading "Tank Rider Into the Reich with the Red Army" by Evgeni Bessonov.

The guy is not a professional writer but it his recollections of his time serving with the 4th Tank Army in the 1st Motor Rifle Battalion as a platoon leader as he fought towards Prague from 1943 thru 1945.

Written in 2003 so he may be dead now as he was born in 1923.

Good pics too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 09:56 AM (Z+IKu)

93 39 What happened, is happening?

Am I finally having one of those flashbacks I was warned about years ago?
Posted by: cfo mom at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (RfzVr)

What's up?

Posted by: m at January 20, 2019 09:58 AM (eJj1Q)

94 Still reading trashy regency romances. Currently working through Mary Balogh books. Life right now is kind of intense, you know like life can be. Do not want anything depressing or too intense. Always a happy ending. Unlike life.
I wish Georgette Heyer had written more books, she died in her early 70's. Her books always included lots of historical detail. Also lots of terms no longer in use. Spent a lot of time learning the definitions of very obscure words and phrases.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at January 20, 2019 09:58 AM (N3JsI)

95 That's a catch 22, taxpayers are already wondering why every city is spending a ton of money on libraries if everything is on the internet. Libraries are turning into climate controlled archives.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (4thlk)
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I thought they were supposed to be climate-controlled hobo camps.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)

96 I have 30 books by Terry Pratchett alone.
That said, I can see culling the collection of anything you know you're not going to read again. I was very sorry to get rid of a lot of my dad's books, but he had stored them in a shed for several years, and no one wants to read a damaged book covered in roach and mouse poop.

Currently reading "Lone Star Sons" by Celia Hayes prior to gifting it. The intended recipients' parents asked me to make sure any gifts didn't have any feminist or SJW crap. I think it was recommended here, but I am doing due diligence.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at January 20, 2019 09:59 AM (THS4q)

97 Our library never throws out a book unless it is hideously damaged. The ones they wish to cull are placed on table up front for sale for $1.00 unless it is one which is in like new condition. Those are usually donated by someone in an estate cleanup and have only been read one time and shelved. I used to pick up a lot of books from that table until I went electronic. I just don't have room for any more hard copy books.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:59 AM (mpXpK)

98 OM sent us to the cornfield again!

Shut up. You didn't see nothing. You can't prove anything.
Posted by: Oregon Muse



*********

Updates - a limerick

The original post has been re-appraising
And OM gives Eris a hazing
My head's in a spin
Don't know where to begin
But this cornfield is simply a-maizing!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 09:59 AM (m45I2)

99 The Woman at the Window sounds kind of like Rear Window. But without Grace Kelly, who cares? A friend says he dropped by his parents' home one time, and they all watched it. At the end, his mother said 'She has thick ankles." He and his dad just laughed at her.

Really, RW was originally a story, and rather different than Hitchcock's take. And there was no girlfriend.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:59 AM (VaN/j)

100 In one of Turtledove's alternate history stories,
the pivot takes place where Lee sets up his troops in a wedge behind a
bend in (I think) the Rapidan tempting Meade to split his forces. In
real life, Meade doesn't falll for it; in the story he does and Lee
overpowers the separate factions and goes on to take DC.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 20, 2019 09:55 AM (qc+VF)

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Having read quite a bit on the Civil War and studied it through too many wargames to count, I think it's clear that the South got just about every break they could reasonably have hoped to get.

There were so many times the Union could have ended the thing, it isn't funny. McClellan by all rights should have been in Richmond in the spring of 1862. Failing that he could have committed V and VI Corps at Antietam and bagged Lee and his whole army. (They guy had more reserves than Lee had on the field).

I could go on, but the point is that the North kept tripping over its own feet, so much so that most historical games have to impose artificially strict rules to keep the South from getting stomped by 1863.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:01 AM (cfSRQ)

101 Was at Ollie's yesterday. They have very cheap books. They also had stacks of older/culled library books.

If you have an Ollie's nearby I recommend you check them out.

$4 or $5 for a recent hard back bestseller or $1 or $2 for paperback is a pretty good deal.

They also have a huge selection of cookbooks and various other non-fiction.

YMMV

Posted by: weirdflunky at January 20, 2019 10:01 AM (GwY6O)

102 Very little book reading this week, but I did manage to get through "Peanuts Lunch Bag Cookbook" to find the cheese ball recipe everyone was raving about last week.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 20, 2019 10:01 AM (NtglE)

103 91 I've been listening to Plato's (?) Ethics and am in part three. I was somewhat surprised to find that the ethics he discusses track pretty well with our, or at least my, understanding of the meaning as opposed to the "might makes right" of heroic Greece. Much of it is fairly close to a Christian understanding of ethics, although we have the advantage of prayer in judging what is the right degree of action and the truly correct time to act.

I think Trump is pretty close to the "magnificent" man that he discusses at one point, although Trump is much more active and energetic than Plato's assumed example.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 20, 2019 09:56 AM (uquGJ)


Aristotle, surely.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:02 AM (VaN/j)

104 The Man from the Train... is right up my alley. Gonna check that out. I'm a true crime book nut, and do remember reading about the horrific Villisca murders a few years back.

I also mentioned in a thread earlier this week, but I just finished, and highly recommend, Radium Girls by Kate Moore. I checked it out from my library and could hardly put it down. It's about the early 19-teens to 1930s female dial-painters who painted luminous clock dials and military gauges with the radioactive material, Radium, which was all the rage as the latest health and beauty treatments during that time. The girls that then became highly radioactive (they put their paint brushes in their mouths to make for more precise painting) and suffered unimaginable deaths, or lifelong debilitations. Their story through the court systems to get justice (love that word!) from the radium companies who were aware of the dangers, but didn't do anything to protect the girls, is heartbreaking. It's gonna haunt me for a while. Shocking book.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at January 20, 2019 10:02 AM (JoUsr)

105 Much of it is fairly close to a Christian understanding of ethics...

==

Aquinas was heavily influenced by Aristotle, tried to reconcile the two - Greek philosophy and Christianity.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:02 AM (bUjCl)

106 Interesting you all mention downloading the Kindle books to your laptop in order to do the de-DRM process.
I've noticed if you use the Amazon reader on your laptop, it does download the book you're reading. But even if you "pin" it so it's supposed to stay present on your machine, Amazon cleans it up and deletes it when you close the reader.
Nothing suspicious about that...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 20, 2019 10:03 AM (7s3Gx)

107 In the introduction to LOTR Tolkien mentions he dislikes allegory but recognizes that a story will have 'applicabilty' to individual readers. This was reconfirmed for me when I got distracted from my re-reading by the thought of how much the mobs and antifa, etc. remind me of Orcs. This rapidly spiraled into figuring out which characters correspond to Obama, Schumer, and the rest.

I don't want to start an overt political theme on the book thread. But this distraction got in the way of enjoyable reading so I mention it. And yes, after a day I got back to LOTR.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 10:03 AM (bmdz3)

108 Line 1<br>Line 2<br>Line3

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 20, 2019 10:04 AM (7s3Gx)

109 Hmmm.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 20, 2019 10:04 AM (7s3Gx)

110 And making Narnia educational as well as amusing, the Dufflepuds, those monopod doofii in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, are straight outta ancient and medieval myth:

“The race of Sciopodes are said to live in Ethiopia; they have only one leg, and are wonderfully speedy. The Greeks call them σκιαπόδεϛ ("shade-footed ones") because when it is hot they lie on their backs on the ground and are shaded by the great size of their feet.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopod_(creature)

I remember seeing some medieval mappe with monopods and headless men, among other oddities:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headless_men

I remember this cat at Ripon Cathedral

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headless_men#/media/File:Blemya.jpg

And circling back to Herodotus:

“The first indirect reference to the Blemmyes occurs in Herodotus, Histories, where he calls them the akephaloi (Greek: ἀκέφαλοι "without a head").[12] The headless akephaloi, the dog-headed cynocephali, "and the wild men and women, besides many other creatures not fabulous" dwelled in the eastern edge of ancient Libya, according to Herodotus's Libyan sources.”

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:05 AM (kQs4Y)

111 why every city is spending a ton of money on libraries if everything is on the internet.

You need a place to look at the internet. And play basketball.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 20, 2019 10:05 AM (JgLEu)

112 107 In the introduction to LOTR Tolkien mentions he dislikes allegory but recognizes that a story will have 'applicabilty' to individual readers. This was reconfirmed for me when I got distracted from my re-reading by the thought of how much the mobs and antifa, etc. remind me of Orcs. This rapidly spiraled into figuring out which characters correspond to Obama, Schumer, and the rest.

I don't want to start an overt political theme on the book thread. But this distraction got in the way of enjoyable reading so I mention it. And yes, after a day I got back to LOTR.
Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 10:03 AM (bmdz3)


Hillary is Shelob. No doubt about it.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:05 AM (VaN/j)

113 OK, I just read the linked article about getting rid of books. True, I have way more books than I need, and some I haven't read in decades. However, I just love being able to wander around my house and scan through my books looking for something to read. Just about every room in my house has shelves of books. They are my comfort and joy. Someday, perhaps, I'll start paring down my reading materials, but not for many decades.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y3dEv)

114 book list invitation

Posted by: Doc Nova at January 20, 2019 10:06 AM (Lsu/B)

115 My people call it maize.
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 09:40 AM (NWiLs)



My people call it Labyrinth

Posted by: Minos at January 20, 2019 10:06 AM (mUa7G)

116 Aristotle, surely.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:02 AM (VaN/j)

Whoops, yes. I should have been less lazy and looked in my Kindle library. Especially since I typed the comment on my Kindle.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 20, 2019 10:07 AM (uquGJ)

117 you should only own 30 books? That's asinine and it's impractical, because any educated man needs more books than that... what am I supposed to do? Just toss em in the trash when I'm done? Why? How would that improve my life?

It's not "clutter," OK? That's retarded, sir.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 10:08 AM (5aX2M)

118 Posted by: weirdflunky at January 20, 2019 10:01 AM (GwY6O)
--
I love reading the ads for Ollie's - they'll sell anything!

"Hey, we just got a shipment of surplus sod rolls in. First come, first served."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:08 AM (kQs4Y)

119 106
Interesting you all mention downloading the Kindle books to your laptop in order to do the de-DRM process.
I've
noticed if you use the Amazon reader on your laptop, it does download
the book you're reading. But even if you "pin" it so it's supposed to
stay present on your machine, Amazon cleans it up and deletes it when
you close the reader.
Nothing suspicious about that...


Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at January 20, 2019 10:03 AM (7s3Gx)

I usually don't have my Samsung connected to the internet unless I am actively "buying" a book. So that is the only time they get to mess with my books. However, that "check mark" business occurs whether I am connected to the internet or not.


The only time I have connected to the internet with my Samsung to not download a book was when I was taking wifey to the hospital and siting in the parking lot. I would check local weather on the Samsung.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 10:09 AM (mpXpK)

120 110
And making Narnia educational as well as amusing, the Dufflepuds, those monopod doofii in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, are straight outta ancient and medieval myth:




Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:05 AM (kQs4Y)

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Tolkien and Lewis had a sharp disagreement about the latter's decision to mix mythologies.

Tolkien felt that one should pick a culture and stay with it, and didn't like the way Lewis mixed Norse and Greek, etc. He said it undercut the reality of the secondary world.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:09 AM (cfSRQ)

121 OK, I just read the linked article about getting rid of books. True, I have way more books than I need, and some I haven't read in decades. However, I just love being able to wander around my house and scan through my books looking for something to read. Just about every room in my house has shelves of books. They are my comfort and joy. Someday, perhaps, I'll start paring down my reading materials, but not for many decades.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y3dEv)


I had to pare down recently. Decided that those I haven't touched for years, a one time read, can go. If I ever need to go back to them - library. Those that I can't live without, stayed.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:10 AM (bUjCl)

122 I was wondering why I suddenly stopped getting many "likes" to my twitter post.

Answer was found here: https://shadowban.eu/

I am shadowbanned.

This, in fact, is fraud on the part of Twitter. They advertise a service - "Join the conversation" - then refuse to allow people they don't like to converse without warning.

Posted by: Anon at January 20, 2019 10:10 AM (yJy4c)

123 BTW, the Indian drummer is a professional activist...

https://twitter.com/Uncle_Jimbo/status/
1086796139817504768

Click through for other links about the guy.

I
don't care for him but Mike Cernovich's Twitter timeline has alot of
full, backup video of the whole incident including the black guys
harassing the R.C. schoolkids.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 10:10 AM (Evws/)

124 121
OK, I just read the linked article about getting rid of books. True, I
have way more books than I need, and some I haven't read in decades.
However, I just love being able to wander around my house and scan
through my books looking for something to read. Just about every room in
my house has shelves of books. They are my comfort and joy.



Think of books as collectibles with a wonderful tactile feel.


Posted by: Anon at January 20, 2019 10:11 AM (yJy4c)

125 And, BTW, "the Shift" isn't a stat tool he invented.
(He's come up with many, though.) It's a tactic for defense against
certain batters, most famously Ted Williams, though it dates back
further than that.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:37 AM (VaN/j)

Yep. Someone figured out that Williams almost always hit to right field, so when he came up to bat, not only the right fielder would be there, but the centerfielder and left fielder as well. That robbed him of many hits, because Williams was too stubborn to adjust his approach at the plate. (He still did alright, though . Now it's routine, so batters who can hit to all fields are highly valued. I'm still amazed that anybody can manage to hit a major league pitch at all, much less aim it in any particular direction.

Nice to indulge in a little baseball talk on this very cold and snowy morning.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 10:11 AM (d6Ksn)

126 This one is considered by some to be Problematic as the Calormenes are obviously based on Arab culture and worship a vengeful false god, Tash.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:52 AM (kQs4Y)


My guess is that they're based on Turkish culture. Which, in this context, may be a distinction without a difference. In Lewis' day, the Arabs probably did not loom as large in the Western imagination as the Turks did, since it wasn't that long ago that they were considered a very worrisome threat to Europe.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 10:12 AM (qmw9b)

127 I just learned Raymond Chandler and PG Wodehouse went to the same English high school, though a few years apart. There was obviously one helluva writing teacher at Dulwich in those days, some now anonymous teacher, but someone who added a lot to my reading life.


Thank you sir, whoever you were.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:12 AM (Z216Q)

128 I don't know if this would work. Can I disconnect permanently an Amazon e-reader from the internet, decommission (?) it with Amazon, and use it as a stand alone reader for the books already on it? I have a Kindle Fire I use only for books. Could this preserve my Kindle books that I have know? At least until the device dies?

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 10:12 AM (bmdz3)

129 123
BTW, the Indian drummer is a professional activist..

But of course. Did you ever think otherwise?

Posted by: Anon at January 20, 2019 10:12 AM (yJy4c)

130 I'm one degree of separation from OM and Muldoon!

We need an Ace Number describing degrees of collaborative distance from another Hordian, just like that Erdos Number thing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:12 AM (kQs4Y)

131 Ultimately, this means that the best guarantors of our freedom to think is (drum roll) brick-and-mortar libraries. Because they contain actual hard copies of books.

==

Libraries have to cull books regularly to make space for new books

Books that don't get checked out a lot get tossed
So encourage ppl to check out your favorite library books!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 09:49 AM (BJlbN)


As I was reading Flann O'Brien's At Swim-Two-Birds, because it has stories within stories it's sometimes hard to figure out just what the fuck is going on, so I read the forward by William Gass and he refers to a book by Anne Clissman that researches everything that goes on. Now I know some of you are thinking that if I have to do that, that's way too much fucking work for something that's supposed to be enjoyable, but I don't care because rereading something once I know what's going on is what I like.

So the library system around here is pretty good so I checked under Clissman's name and got big fat nothing. So I checked Amazon and ditto. I have other options but I thought that effectively pointed out what votermom said.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 20, 2019 10:13 AM (y7DUB)

132 McClellan was the first of his kind - The ur-Cuck.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 10:13 AM (5aX2M)

133

"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2019 10:13 AM (HaL55)

134 how I store and catalog my books.
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Catalog?

*looks around at sundry shelves and random stacks of books*

What does that mean? It sounds like it spoils the thrill of the hunt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:14 AM (2qPhT)

135 The woman who started Konmari admits she isn't a reader, which was obvious in anyone saying books were the second easiest thing to purge after clothes. She also has no hobbies or creative endeavors beyond tidying. I wasn't surprised at all when she said she'd been a Shrine Maiden since it fit very well with her anthropomorphic vision of the inanimate. That she also admits a closer relationship to the inanimate than to people, including family, is very sad.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 20, 2019 10:14 AM (uquGJ)

136 I have never been able to get a DRM removal app to
work. But I haven't tried it since I got this new computer with Windows
10. May have to go back and get new app.


Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (mpXpK)

It would not surprise me in the least if Win10 had code in it to prevent DRM stripping. MS is part of the problem.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 20, 2019 10:14 AM (nPGq2)

137 Getting old is tough sometimes and I just remembered why I liked Stalky and Company so much as a kid. 'The bleating of the kid excites the tiger' to start the coup in the Revenge of the Nerds.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 20, 2019 10:14 AM (MIKMs)

138 Ah, you're right OM. The turbans say Ottoman.

But still problematic!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:15 AM (kQs4Y)

139 I had to pare down recently. Decided that those I
haven't touched for years, a one time read, can go. If I ever need to
go back to them - library. Those that I can't live without, stayed.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:10 AM (bUjCl)

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Some years ago I did a major cull of my book (and board game) collection. I rarely got rid of books and things were getting out of hand. Same with the games. There were a bunch I'd never played and never would play.

Now I'm very particular when I buy a book and I'm to the point where getting another bookshelf may be in order, but before I do that I'll probably look for stuff I don't need. For example, I've got a number of books on military hardware but I've come to realize that some simply aren't that reliable or useful. So out they go.

Basically, the whole point of having a book is that you're going to want to use it again. If not, it should go away.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:15 AM (cfSRQ)

140

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 10:11 AM (d6Ksn)


Yes. Actually it was, according to James, used against Cy Williams in the 20s. He was a power hitter for the Phillies.

I've read that Cobb said to Williams that he (Ty) didn't see the problem and he would have loved to see them use it against him. Which kind of misses the point. Ty was the very last hitter they'd have used it against. He'd have hit .950.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:16 AM (VaN/j)

141 Konmari is now a movement ?

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:16 AM (bUjCl)

142 While browsing the internet this morning I've been listening to a recording of a Grateful Dead concert I actually attendedin in my pre-age 29 life, "Live At Barton Hall". I'm not a huge Dead fan but this recording is outstanding. The concert sounds as great now as I remember thinking it was at the time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:17 AM (Z216Q)

143 I inherited a collection of Bibles from my father who passed away recently. One of them is old. Printed in 1877. Pretty much falling apart. Any ideas what I should do with it? Not practical for reading or studying as it is falling apart and the print is too small for me to read.

Posted by: DCA at January 20, 2019 10:17 AM (Hc2uj)

144 132
McClellan was the first of his kind - The ur-Cuck.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 10:13 AM (5aX2M)

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Actually, Daniel Sickles was a cuck, though he solved the problem by killing his wife's lover.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:18 AM (cfSRQ)

145 ....Basically, the whole point of having a book is that you're going to want to use it again. If not, it should go away.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:15 AM (cfSRQ)


Having a pretty good library system helps.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:19 AM (bUjCl)

146 Ace of Spades keychain and bookmarks are up at my shop. A couple of people were interested. More can be made. Thanks!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 10:19 AM (dUJdY)

147 143 I inherited a collection of Bibles from my father who passed away recently. One of them is old. Printed in 1877. Pretty much falling apart. Any ideas what I should do with it? Not practical for reading or studying as it is falling apart and the print is too small for me to read.
Posted by: DCA at January 20, 2019 10:17 AM (Hc2uj)

If it has emotional significance put it in a display type box.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at January 20, 2019 10:19 AM (MkcN1)

148 Free DRM stripping software for e-books.
macOS, Windows, Linux

https://calibre-ebook.com

Posted by: tux at January 20, 2019 10:20 AM (wNN8A)

149 Think like a pirate.

There's nothing to stop you from downloading from Kindle, and manually keying in the text to notepad or wordpad.

Might take a little longer but you'd cover the expense after one or two sales.

arrrrrgh

Posted by: franksalterego at January 20, 2019 10:20 AM (3cq8T)

150 The book collection leans heavily to female-friendly fiction. My tax dollars at work.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)

most libraries have a way to suggest / request new acquisitions
or you can make friends with the chief librarian and suggest new books to get

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:20 AM (BJlbN)

151 Tolkien felt that one should pick a culture and stay with it, and didn't like the way Lewis mixed Norse and Greek, etc. He said it undercut the reality of the secondary world.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:09 AM (cfSRQ)
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Well, Tolkien was a bit of a stick!

J.R.R. was building a coherent world with a history, and Lewis's was a dreamlike alternate reality.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:21 AM (kQs4Y)

152 Catalog?

*looks around at sundry shelves and random stacks of books*

What does that mean? It sounds like it spoils the thrill of the hunt.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:14 AM (2qPhT)


Agreed, up to a point. The room I am now in has a concentration of military/naval books. (My wife calls it The He-Man Woman Haters' Club). But there are some of her novels, never the less.

What ticks me off about my disorderliness is that, a week ago I said I was about half way through Preface to Paradise Lost. And since then, I CAN'T FIND IT! And neither can my wife. That happens far too often. I need to get my sh*t together. Maybe after Friday's operation I'll feel up to it.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:22 AM (VaN/j)

153 Where can I get this de-DRM app?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (qmw9b)



Young man, the proper grammatical construction of that sentence is:

Where can I get me one of them de-DRM app?


Please stop being so deplorable!

Posted by: Senator Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 10:22 AM (CRRq9)

154 most libraries have a way to suggest / request new acquisitions

or you can make friends with the chief librarian and suggest new books to get



Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:20 AM (BJlbN)

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Well, there's a reason why Evelyn Waugh is fully stocked.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:22 AM (cfSRQ)

155 30 books would not last my family for a month. Ridiculous.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 20, 2019 10:23 AM (BUVI4)

156 Nice library!

Posted by: RobM1981 at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (irwM1)

157 Admiral Nelson persuaded his girlfriend to move in with him at his huge estate in England, after retiring from the Navy, and she brought along her husband to manage the place. Nelson: a truly great man.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (Z216Q)

158 Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 20, 2019 10:06 AM (y3dEv)

First of all, nice library. I've pared down my book collection whenever I've moved, most recently last summer. Having to pack makes you ruthless and suddenly you find yourself looking at a book and thinking "I didn't even like this novel when I read it 20 years ago - why have I been dragging this around with me anyway? Why has it been taking up precious space on my shelves?" So off it goes to Goodwill, but the tragedy is that I always seem to get rid of books I end up really regretting getting rid of. Many of my books are still in boxes in my sister's basement and I've spent a good 45 minutes digging around down there for a particular book I thought I owned but can't find. And and then I think "Damn it! Did that book end up in the Goodwill pile too?" I've bought books and then wondered why the hell I bought them (which is what makes Amazon so dangerous - it's so easy to click a couple of times and buy a book on impulse) and I've also gotten rid of books and then wondered what the hell I was thinking of...

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (d6Ksn)

159 Actually, Daniel Sickles was a cuck, though he solved the problem by killing his wife's lover.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:18 AM (cfSRQ)

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LOL. Not quite so literal, though. I just meant he was a cowardly lion, afraid to join battle with the enemy, always making excuses to bail, undermining Lincoln's cause from within, then joining with the Democrats over his wounded pride and loss of influence.

He was the intellectual blueprint for modern Republicans.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (5aX2M)

160 there are 2 kinds of people in the world - purgers and collectors

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (BJlbN)

161 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Wow, I slept in today, and here I am quoted in the main post! Wooo! I am somebody!

Now, back to catch up on the comments.

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (OX9vb)

162 I thought they were supposed to be climate-controlled hobo camps.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)

Yup......last week I visited a local county lieberry.

Between the shadeballs using the internet room for scams/porn and the urban outdoorsmen soaking up the heat and phree restrooms it was quite the adventure.

Smell-A-Vision adds to your reading experience I have learned.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2019 10:25 AM (Z+IKu)

163 Thanks for these posts!

Posted by: Tyk at January 20, 2019 10:25 AM (/zkx5)

164 Where can I get this de-DRM app?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 09:43 AM (qmw9b)

Young man, the proper grammatical construction of that sentence is:

Where can I get me one of them de-DRM app?

Please stop being so deplorable!
Posted by: Senator Elizabeth Warren at January 20, 2019 10:22 AM (CRRq9)


That is the kind of English up with which I shall not put!

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 20, 2019 10:25 AM (T71PA)

165 157
Admiral Nelson persuaded his girlfriend to move in with him at his huge
estate in England, after retiring from the Navy, and she brought along
her husband to manage the place. Nelson: a truly great man.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (Z216Q)

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Nelson took a musket ball at Trafalgar. Not much of a retirement.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:25 AM (cfSRQ)

166 oh yes, the homeless huddle in the lieberry in winter

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:27 AM (BJlbN)

167 Nice to indulge in a little baseball talk on this very cold and snowy morning.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 10:11 AM (d6Ksn)

That's right! Almost Red Sox season again!

Posted by: tux at January 20, 2019 10:28 AM (wNN8A)

168 Jewells cool ace of spades bookmark!

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:28 AM (BJlbN)

169 157 Admiral Nelson persuaded his girlfriend to move in with him at his huge estate in England, after retiring from the Navy, and she brought along her husband to manage the place. Nelson: a truly great man.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (Z216Q)


He didn't retire, he was just unemployed at the time. His "retirement" was caused by a French marksman at Trafalgar.

But Sir William Hamilton knew what he was getting. Emma had already been around the block many times. I still say we should have some morning Art Threads featuring her.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:28 AM (VaN/j)

170 128
I don't know if this would work. Can I disconnect permanently an Amazon
e-reader from the internet, decommission (?) it with Amazon, and use it
as a stand alone reader for the books already on it? I have a Kindle
Fire I use only for books. Could this preserve my Kindle books that I
have know? At least until the device dies?

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 10:12 AM (bmdz3)


Probably not. As I said earlier, that check mark business occurs on mine whether I am connected to the internet or not.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 10:28 AM (mpXpK)

171
Inside a Dog - a limerick

At the chief librarian's behest
I've embarked on a literary quest
The archives I scour
For more books to devour
They're tasty!...(but I say this ingest!)

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 10:29 AM (m45I2)

172 My local library system does a thing called One Book, recommends a book for all citizens...this month's recommendation: "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". AAAND, there is a screening of "Blade Runner 2049 (2017)". Yep.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:29 AM (bUjCl)

173 Think like a pirate.



There's nothing to stop you from downloading from Kindle, and manually keying in the text to notepad or wordpad.



Might take a little longer but you'd cover the expense after one or two sales.



arrrrrgh

Posted by: franksalterego at January 20, 2019 10:20 AM (3cq8T)

Run the e-reader on your PC, and hit alt+prt scrn for each page. Takes a "screen cap" as a bitmap image, and stores it in Notepad. Open an image editor, like MS Paint, and import the file from notepad, and save it in your format of choice in a new directory.
I actually did this with a service manual for a machine that I found on the internet. Some 30-odd pages. Copied it this way, and printed it, and put it in a folder. Clumsy, but useful. Company selling the manuals wanted too much $$$

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 20, 2019 10:29 AM (nPGq2)

174 Currently reading:

'Roosevelt's Secret War' , Persico. Very well researched, well written. For those who have any interest in WWII espionage, I'd make it must-read.

'Moscow 1941', Braithewait. Another excellent read. Extremely well researched and written. Describes at length both the machinations of the Soviets, politically, and the war effort. Many, many anectdotes from files and interviews.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:30 AM (fZcn6)

175 Jewells cool ace of spades bookmark!
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:28 AM (BJlbN)


I like it too ! Now I need to figure out a way to get it anonymously...hmmm

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:30 AM (bUjCl)

176 Nelson took a musket ball at Trafalgar. Not much of a retirement
--------------

Nelson retired twice, and was brought back both times to save the country before his death.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Z216Q)

177 LOL. Not quite so literal, though. I just meant he
was a cowardly lion, afraid to join battle with the enemy, always making
excuses to bail, undermining Lincoln's cause from within, then joining
with the Democrats over his wounded pride and loss of influence.



He was the intellectual blueprint for modern Republicans.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (5aX2M)

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True, but a big part of his problem was that he made the Army of the Potomac too top-heavy. Lee had at most three command elements to deal with. McClellan built his army to have five or six. (I, II, III, V, VI, XI corps, depending on the campaign).

So even if Mac wanted to engage, he couldn't get his men into position. I think it was Halleck who congratulated Meade after Gettysburg for being the first commander of that army to finally engage ALL of his troops.

When Grant came in, he fixed things by consolidating the corps.

Interestingly, Sherman also used a three-element setup, though he did it with "armies" controlling his six corps.

If you can't tell, command and control is a bit of an obsession with me.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2019 10:30 AM (cfSRQ)

178 Beside showing a student's letter about what was going on, there's alot of video footage here exonerating the kids...
https://twitter.com/AClementsWKRC/status/
1086822521012473858

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 10:31 AM (Evws/)

179 Lord Squirrel, that's a nice hidey-hole you've got there. One could spend all day there without moving!

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 10:31 AM (OX9vb)

180 Very nice library.

Yeah, I pretty much stick to things I don't care about losing with my Kindle. I do have a growing collection of audible books from Audible but I found a tool that removes even the latest Amazon DRM. That allows me to keep personal backups and to play the books without the app. I haven't been able to find a tool that breaks the latest Kindle DRM.

Posted by: WOPR at January 20, 2019 10:32 AM (J70i0)

181 157 Admiral Nelson persuaded his girlfriend to move in with him at his huge estate in England, after retiring from the Navy, and she brought along her husband to manage the place. Nelson: a truly great man.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (Z216Q)
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I have a book on caricatures (okay a few) and this relationship was constantly razzed in the cartoons, especially by Cruikshank. But apparently Lord Hamilton himself didn't mind, he being old enough to be his wife's grampa. Nelson was just helping a fellow out, don't you see.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:32 AM (kQs4Y)

182 Interestingly, the house and property Nelson's family was given by a grateful nation after Trafalgar is still a private home and I believe it was just sold a year or two ago.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:32 AM (Z216Q)

183 The question of ownership is one that's always strong in my mind, and one reason why I do not buy that kind of content at all.


I always want the physical media, or a digital form that is under my full control. I would rather steal content via torrenting, etc., rather than pay for content that can then be stolen back from me as a 'license'.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 20, 2019 10:33 AM (dcu2m)

184 Nelson retired twice, and was brought back both times to save the country before his death.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Z216Q)

So he's basically King Arthur

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:33 AM (BJlbN)

185 LOL, I have an add for "CBD oil" that has a young lady tilting her head back in delicious languor as she takes the dropper in her mouth.

CBD you dawg!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:34 AM (kQs4Y)

186 My Local library (IMO, one of the best library systems around) has also purged some of its books while adding others.

http://www.journalgazette.net/news/local/20181223/did-the-library-toss-14-million-books

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at January 20, 2019 10:34 AM (vQUp6)

187 That everything today is transitioning to being in the 'cloud' and not really in possession of the person is kind of dystopian.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at January 20, 2019 10:34 AM (2DOZq)

188 Currently reading:

Oops, forgot...just started the Nash biography 'A Beautiful Mind', Nasar. Too early to comment, but so far is fairly interesting. The important takeaway so far is: Avoid schizophrenia.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:35 AM (KoKdw)

189 Mike H., just finished another "secret war" - Hastings' "The Secret War", which covers (obviously in varying detail) the intel and code-breaking stories of all major belligerents in WWII. And Braitwaite's Moscow book is next on my list, after finishing Glantz's book on Soviet southern operations after Stalingrad and a book on Kursk.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 10:35 AM (QDnY+)

190
When Grant came in, he fixed things by consolidating the corps.



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Interesting. I always heard it said that Grant was rotten to the Corps!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 10:35 AM (m45I2)

191 160 there are 2 kinds of people in the world - purgers and collectors
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (BJlbN)
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I'm a collector. I only purge to make room for my new acquisitions.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:37 AM (kQs4Y)

192
When Grant came in, he fixed things by consolidating the corps.


Why would he consolidate dead bodies?

Posted by: Obama at January 20, 2019 10:37 AM (2DOZq)

193 Nelson retired twice, and was brought back both times to save the country before his death.



So he's basically King Arthur



******


Or Brett Favre

Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (m45I2)

194 That everything today is transitioning to being in the 'cloud' and not really in possession of the person is kind of dystopian.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
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'Dystopian' is an understatement. 'Orwellian' might be more descriptive.

The series that TuCar has been airing re the very active Goolag in our schools is scary...very scary.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (KoKdw)

195
I saw Avoid Schizophrenia open for Insane Clown Posse at the American Airline Center in 2006.



Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (CRRq9)

196 OT, but I'm listening to someone on the idiot box go on breathlessly about how cold and snowy it is in the upper Midwest and New England. In January! OMG, how unusual! This never happens! Climate change!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (d6Ksn)

197 oh for my Book Thread reading goal, from last week's thread I started on Mr Brownstone #1, and habe acquired Ghost Soldiers

So my goal was one book from each thread, but there have only been 2 threads this year (not counting this) and somehow I have 5 books in my to-read pile

*glares at OM*

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (BJlbN)

198 Interesting. I always heard it said that Grant was rotten to the Corps!
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 10:35 AM (m45I2)

I believe the word your looking for is "corpse"!

Typical.

Posted by: Barky the Magnificent at January 20, 2019 10:39 AM (GwY6O)

199
My Local library (IMO, one of the best library systems around) has also purged some of its books while adding others.

http://www.journalgazette.net/news/local/20181223/did-the-library-toss-14-million-books
Posted by: SMOD Keeper at January 20, 2019 10:34 AM (vQUp6)


They don't say which ones ? Many library systems have tons of reference books that no one uses and are out of date - encyclopedias, how-to books. Garbage basically.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:39 AM (bUjCl)

200 176 Nelson took a musket ball at Trafalgar. Not much of a retirement
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Nelson retired twice, and was brought back both times to save the country before his death.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:30 AM (Z216Q)


No, he didn't retire. Going on the half-pay list was entirely different. E.g., he stayed where he was on the seniority list, and remained available tor duty. It was more like switching to the reserves. But the whole system was quite unlike the modern one. (Good for them; Nelson would have been retired as physically unfit long before Trafalgar, or even the Nile.)

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (VaN/j)

201 Nelson retired twice, and was brought back both times to save the country before his death.



So he's basically King Arthur


******


Or Brett Favre
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (m45I2)

So Nelson sent a dick picture to a girl?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (Y+V3r)

202 Thank you votermom and runner. I promise I won't reveal anyone's real name. Never have never will.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (dUJdY)

203
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (KCxzN)

204 The keychain's pretty sweet, Jewells!

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (NWiLs)

205 #3 son gave me "A Vision Betrayed" by Andrew Ross for Christmas. It's a history of the Jesuits in Japan and China between the mid 1500's and 1700's. Just started into it yesterday - it's very readable so far.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (9rIkM)

206 Bill James is responsible for a lot that's wrong with baseball today but that isn't his fault. He was just trying to determine information and new ways of analyzing data, and people are misusing the info.

I finished Then We Take Berlin by John Lawton. It was well written and an interesting view of post-war Berlin as it rebuilt. The German people definitely went through some hard times both philosophically and physically after the war, basically everything was destroyed and they were almost starving for years and then the Soviets shut down Berlin trying to take it over. But in the years before the wall, it was a wild west free for all particularly in the black market.

The book is interesting enough but I couldn't like the main character, and the ending was... bizarre, it made no sense, one of those out of the blue twist endings like a French abstract movie following a long fairly sensible adventure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (39g3+)

207 And we're pikers. I have a friend who has become so obsessive that he's buying books he knows he will never read. He's really getting to be like Smaugh, sitting on a pile of loot which is no use to him. At least Scrooge McDuck could swim in his money.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:45 AM (VaN/j)

I think a lot of people are concerned, even at a subconscious level, that history is being erased. Hence the desire to collect books.

BTW, I've tried the Calibre program and it doesn't seem to work with the latest Kindle encryption. At least I've never had luck with it.

Posted by: WOPR at January 20, 2019 10:41 AM (J70i0)

208 191 160 there are 2 kinds of people in the world - purgers and collectors
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 10:24 AM (BJlbN)
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I'm a collector. I only purge to make room for my new acquisitions.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:37 AM (kQs4Y)
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I could not bear the thought of throwing away a book. After I read one, I feel like I have something of an investment in it, besides the strictly economic.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 10:41 AM (MVjcR)

209 Thank you votermom and runner. I promise I won't reveal anyone's real name. Never have never will.
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (dUJdY)

All right, I am gonna get the keychain. It is awesome. My paypal still works..I think..

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:41 AM (bUjCl)

210 Interestingly, the house and property Nelson's family was given by a grateful nation after Trafalgar is still a private home and I believe it was just sold a year or two ago.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:32 AM (Z216Q)


Wow, so it was. Listed for £12 million (I don't see what it eventually went for). "Trafalgar Park", looks like a neat place to live. It's been used as a filming location for movies and TV too. From the caretaker:

"Some home owners are wary of film crews stomping all over their properties, but I just felt tremendously lucky," says Wade. "All I had to do was get out of my bath in the morning and watch the unfolding entertainment around me."

I can relate.

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 10:42 AM (t+qrx)

211 194 That everything today is transitioning to being in the 'cloud' and not really in possession of the person is kind of dystopian.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation
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'Dystopian' is an understatement. 'Orwellian' might be more descriptive.

The series that TuCar has been airing re the very active Goolag in our schools is scary...very scary.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:38 AM (KoKdw)

Wouldn't disagree but I said dystopian because it is happening innocently with things besides books. Banking, insurance , receipts on purchases, digital currency, etc.

Scary future for old timers. That includes this not quite old timer.

Posted by: Obama at January 20, 2019 10:43 AM (2DOZq)

212 The latest issue of Early American Life magazine has a couple of articles I thought were especially well done.

The first was on the historical use and significance of buckwheat both for food and ground cover. For instance, the author refers to a letter from Daniel Webster to George Washington about the many benefits of using buckwheat to replenish depleted soil. Kinda cool.

The second deals with the history of hand loom use in the colonies, the stupid laws passed by Parliment, loom construction. (Barn looms were so-called because they were made using post and beam techniques used in barns.) Little observations like needing a year to make a heavy wool blanket starting with sheep and ending with the finished blanket. And a pictorial on using a loom these days.

These articles are always dangerous for me because they can start an unending chain of inquiries on related topics: recipes in history using buckwheat and its health benefits, etc. For looms it could be the wood preferred to build them, what kind of sheep produced the best wool, social aspects for women making cloth, clothes and other woven goods, how far back in history weaving goes, etc.

It's easy to spend a day with these distractions. But they are fun.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 10:43 AM (bmdz3)

213 Mike H., just finished another "secret war" - Hastings' "The Secret War", which covers (obviously in varying detail) the intel and code-breaking stories of all major belligerents in WWII. And Braitwaite's Moscow book is next on my list, after finishing Glantz's book on Soviet southern operations after Stalingrad and a book on Kursk.
Posted by: rhomboid
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*makes notes*

Have you read 'Battle of Wits', Budiansk? I don't know that it is the definitive book re WWII code operations, but is very, very good.

I'll mention here that my Aunt Ruth attended Arlington Hall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:43 AM (w54mS)

214 Our local library retires and removes books constantly. They try to take out books nobody is reading or needs, usually older books but the problem is a lot of the time that includes classics like The Mark of Zorro. So a bunch of good old stuff that has been in the lexicon of America for over a century is being removed for new books, most of which are of dubious value or meaning.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 10:44 AM (39g3+)

215 Buy actual books. You can do whatever you want with them. Keep them forever. Give them away. Hell you can burn them to keep warm.

Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at January 20, 2019 10:44 AM (XHdLb)

216 Solutions up!

Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 10:45 AM (t+qrx)

217 This thread is no longer available in your region.

Posted by: Amazon at January 20, 2019 10:45 AM (5aX2M)

218 Attention: The Book Thread has been updated with new content (one additional item.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 10:45 AM (qmw9b)

219 It bothers me that Nelson has all this glory, including a huge monument in downtown London, and Churchill has an itty bust near a building and that's pretty much it. There wouldn't BE an England without Churchill.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 10:46 AM (39g3+)

220 "Some home owners are wary of film crews stomping
all over their properties, but I just felt tremendously lucky," says
Wade. "All I had to do was get out of my bath in the morning and watch
the unfolding entertainment around me."



I can relate.


Posted by: hogmartin
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You take a bath in the morning?

Luxury!!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2019 10:46 AM (9rIkM)

221 Wouldn't disagree but I said dystopian because it is happening innocently with things besides books. Banking, insurance , receipts on purchases, digital currency, etc.

Scary future for old timers. That includes this not quite old timer.
Posted by: Obama
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I couldn't agree more. Modest case-in-point, the local hardware store will no longer accept checks.

I have thus far avoided a smart phone, but I wonder how long, as a practical matter, I will be able to avoid it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:46 AM (w54mS)

222 I did dig up a book I bought a long time ago but never got around to reading "City of Nets" by Otto Friedrich, about Hollywood in the 1940's. It's not movie star fluff - more about the behind the scenes power brokers and the political scene (back when you had conservatives and patriots in Tinseltown as well as Commies). I'll start it tonight.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 10:47 AM (d6Ksn)

223 216 Solutions up!
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 10:45 AM (t+qrx


Oh, bite me.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 10:47 AM (qmw9b)

224 Solutions up!

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*looks

second wurst call after false NOOD


Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:47 AM (bUjCl)

225 OT, but the Hill this morning reports Karl Rove still exists. He just met with Senate Republicans (is that a contradiction in terms?) to ask them to not listen to the GOP base. Because the base doesn't understand the nuances of winning at politics. That's his advice, ignore the base: those people who voted the scumbags into office.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:47 AM (Z216Q)

226 The local library has shifted focus from a "research library" (though you can do plenty of research there), to a "popular materials" library with tomes that are in high demand or circulate regularly.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at January 20, 2019 10:48 AM (vQUp6)

227 For all its faults, Amazon is still ok for books and movies.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 10:48 AM (bUjCl)

228 OT, but the Hill this morning reports Karl Rove still exists. He just met with Senate Republicans (is that a contradiction in terms?) to ask them to not listen to the GOP base. Because the base doesn't understand the nuances of winning at politics. That's his advice, ignore the base: those people who voted the scumbags into office.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:47 AM (Z216Q)

If you lookin the dictionary under why republicans lose elections there is a picture of rove

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 10:48 AM (Y+V3r)

229 And since then, I CAN'T FIND IT!
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Happens to me all of the time. I go to seek a quotation or citation, and can NOT find the damn book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:49 AM (U2TY5)

230 Mike H., you mean she attended when it was a girls' school? Amazing.


No, Battle of Wits is also high on my list. For a while in the 80s I read every single thing that came out on Ultra and related topics, starting with Winterbotham's historic book. I need to re-read some of that. And more recent stuff - somehow until the Hastings book I just mentioned I was unaware of the importance of the teleprinter decoding, really only knew about the battle with the Enigma system.


Posted by: rhomboid at January 20, 2019 10:49 AM (QDnY+)

231 So a bunch of good old stuff that has been in the lexicon of America for over a century is being removed for new books, most of which are of dubious value or meaning.

Feature, not bug.

Posted by: The People's Knowledge at January 20, 2019 10:50 AM (IPZPl)

232 The concert sounds as great now as I remember thinking it was at the time.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:17 AM (Z216Q)

How stoned were you....at the time?

Posted by: BignJames at January 20, 2019 10:51 AM (cxHbL)

233 May I recommend Fifty Shades of Commie?

Posted by: Little Lupe at January 20, 2019 10:51 AM (Tyii7)

234 Celebrating Nelson is celebrating the old British Empire. Easy to do from its epicenter.

Churchill is more complicated. A wartime consigliere that the people were happy to be rid of, once the war was over. A living symbol of many of the aspects of a declining Empire many hated.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 10:51 AM (1UZdv)

235 Video shows the widely reported Cov Caf "racist MAGA students" claim was completely false.

https://tinyurl.com/yb9g9k5r

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (+Abq4)

236 The ABE 'Weird Book Room'. Sadly, I actually have one of the books they show:
http://tinyurl.com/y7e24pmn

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (U2TY5)

237 My old man has three libraries: the "Main Branch" which lines his office, the "Fantasy/SciFi" one in his living room, and then the reference library with encyclopedias, textbooks, and OED in the my mom's sitting room for her lady friends.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (5aX2M)

238 I've had my flip phone long enough for it to come back into vogue. This luddite would even scrap that, but my better half has suggested otherwise.

Posted by: SMOD Keeper at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (vQUp6)

239 Happens to me all of the time. I go to seek a quotation or citation, and can NOT find the damn book.
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Currently trying to find some source for a play (?) titled something like 'right you are if you think you are', but am having no luck. I keep looking . . . Beaumont and Fletcher, maybe: no, try something else.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (MIKMs)

240 Smashwords sells ebooks without DRM, plain e-reader or text files. You own the books and they never go away.

Posted by: gunnargrey at January 20, 2019 10:53 AM (eRIPA)

241 216 Solutions up!
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 10:45 AM (t+qrx)

That's a threadwinner and funny shit to boot.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 10:53 AM (NWiLs)

242 236 The ABE 'Weird Book Room'. Sadly, I actually have one of the books they show:
http://tinyurl.com/y7e24pmn
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (U2TY5)
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Let me guess: "The Lodge Goat" and "Goat Rides"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:55 AM (kQs4Y)

243 Churchill is more complicated. A wartime consigliere that the people were happy to be rid of, once the war was over.
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Technically, before the war was over. I find it appalling, but it is emblematic of how the press/politics can, in their self-righteous sanctimoniousness, act against the interests of the nation.

But, we kind of know that, don't we?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:55 AM (KoKdw)

244 241 216 Solutions up!
Posted by: hogmartin at January 20, 2019 10:45 AM (t+qrx)

That's a threadwinner and funny shit to boot.
Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 10:53 AM (NWiLs


Oh, har de har har.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 10:56 AM (qmw9b)

245 So about that toxic masculinity I've been hearing about. ...
It's cold here in my part of Indiana.
I went to bed last night and the room was cold. I snuggled in against hubbymayhem and mumble dammit I'm cold.
My delightfully twisted husband says "I'll keep you warm with my toxic masculinity. "
I said, okay but just how toxic are we talking here?
Hubby chuckled with what sounded like evil glee and said, I intend to be really offensive.

Dear God,
Thank you for men and their toxic masculinity. I love that shit!
Sincerely,
Mayhem

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 10:56 AM (myjNJ)

246 Oh crap! Y'all started without me...

Yeah, the Bill James book. I got a kick out of that blurb "celebrated true crime expert."

James himself either wrote that because he thinks it's funny, or he got whoever wrote it to leave it in there because he thinks it's funny, but I can guarandamntee you Bill James doesn't ever go around calling himself a "celebrated true crime expert."

Anyhoo, since I was the one who recommended it, I will note, James himself gives his daughter, Rachel, quite a bit of the credit for the leg work of digging all these stories up, and apparently she did more than a little bit of the writing. So while James is well known (as a BASEBALL writer), his daughter's work shouldn't be overlooked.

As for whatever that is... "The Shift," I've never heard of it. And I think I've probably read everything James has ever written... well, not literally. And I'm not generally delving into the statistical analysis stuff that some people seem to find so interesting.

James' true value, his main contribution to baseball knowledge, is his ability to take complex concepts, like statistics, and WRITE (as in stringing actual words together) in such as way as to make that boring stuff interesting and understandable.

Some say the monster he created, all the complex stats associated with baseball, have contributed to making a beautiful game, played on grass and dirt, into a virtual game "played" by nerds on computers, where the actual men, doing the actual stuff they do, in real life, lose their meaning.

I could go on, but I've already used up my quota of words here.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 10:56 AM (cY3LT)

247 "Tolkien felt that one should pick a culture and stay with it, and didn't like the way Lewis mixed Norse and Greek, etc. He said it undercut the reality of the secondary world."

Wonder what he'd say about me.

Posted by: George R. R. Martin at January 20, 2019 10:56 AM (1UZdv)

248 No, wait, I bet it's "Be Bold With Bananas"!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 10:57 AM (kQs4Y)

249 Mike H., you mean she attended when it was a girls' school? Amazing.
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Yes. Have photos that she took while there.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 10:58 AM (KoKdw)

250 Nelson's image is enhanced in that he died in the moment of victory. Had he lived, it's not unlikely he might have become an embarrassment. Not that he wasn't the greatest of admirals (he was), but he could be a damned fool in other ways.

One reason he wasn't in command at Copenhagen was the Hamilton scandal, for instance. There's an interesting quote from Wellington about the only time they met.

https://tinyurl.com/y8sqp325

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:02 AM (VaN/j)

251 235
Video shows the widely reported Cov Caf "racist MAGA students" claim was completely false.



https://tinyurl.com/yb9g9k5r

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (+Abq4)
Remember - all Trump supporters are old white racists and bitter clingers who will die soon. So young Trump supporters can not be shown, unless there is a way to make them look racist too. We wouldn't want young people rebelling against their socialist elders and thinking that it's OK to be on the right. That's why anybody young or considered hip who supports MAGA must immediately be marginalized - whether it's Milo or Kayne West or a bunch of hs students. Fortunately, their fellow "conservatives" are more than willing to help with the denouncing and demonizing.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 11:03 AM (d6Ksn)

252 ---
Let me guess: "The Lodge Goat" and "Goat Rides"?
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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'Manifold Destiny'. I only confess this because neither Weasel or Bluebell are here. Not sure about CBD...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:04 AM (fZcn6)

253 "Nelson's image is enhanced in that he died in the moment of victory."

Like JFK. Good career move

Posted by: George R. R. Martin at January 20, 2019 11:05 AM (1UZdv)

254 I've just turned on the Gosnell book to all my Lib/Prog friends.

As a favor, y'unnerstan'

Posted by: franksalterego at January 20, 2019 11:05 AM (3cq8T)

255 Of course the white man force Buckwheat to do their bidding! And it wasn't otay!!

Posted by: andycanuck at January 20, 2019 11:06 AM (Evws/)

256 @Jewells45 - an idea ! AoSHQ fridge magnets. It's a bit away from jewelry, but...hey, you do bookmarks.

Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 11:06 AM (bUjCl)

257 Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 10:56 AM (myjNJ)

*fans srlf*
that hawt

you could be writing best selling bodice rippers, madame

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:06 AM (BJlbN)

258 Like JFK. Good career move
Posted by: George R. R. Martin
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Abe Lincoln

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:06 AM (U7Mh9)

259 Insty had a quickie mention of Gregory Benford's new book "Rewrite", which sparked some discussion of the "many worlds version of quantum theory".

I've been reading the comments over there to see if I needed to change my initial thinking.

So far, it looks like I don't.

Multiple universes generated by individual decisions is a cool and fun idea for fiction.

But, when everything from a fly's decision to fly up instead of down to a water molecule's movement to you picking your nose generates not just one new universe but a whole slew of possible universes.

It just seems silly.

Since we don't even know the initial origin of the Big Bang yet, so where is all the energy and matter coming from that must required by this theory in the gazillion gazillion to the gazillionth power universes which must be created every second.

and, of course, not just on the Earth but everywhere in the universe.

If you want to say that each action generates a gajillion probable consequences,

I guess the math(?) would support that. But each of those probability instantly vanish to zero as there is only one possible outcome generated.

And probably enforced by all the other actions occurring around you and the nature of the world around you

Schrodinger's cat may be alive or dead but when you open the box,

it's not going to be Senator Elizabeth Warren wanting to make her some crab dip.


Hey! Thanks for reading my blather.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 11:07 AM (CRRq9)

260 As is my wont, I am tinkering on a little project in a side hobby. And I have come to realize I really miss Radio Shack. True, Amazon has infinite inventory and has everything. But for little bits you have to pay shipping or it's included in the prime price, so it is often just as cheap to be 5 of an item as it is 1. Also there is a wait of a couple days or more on prime so you have longer cycles when you pick the wrong piece. And you can't eyeball a part and figure out whether it would work or you could make it work.

I thought with the "maker" business tinkering would be easier but alas it is not.

Get off my lawn, he says.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 11:08 AM (ZfRYq)

261 AoSHQ fridge magnets. It's a bit away from jewelry, but...hey, you do bookmarks.
Posted by: runner
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I have a coveted 'Kaboom' fridge magnet.

But my favorite is http://tinyurl.com/y8zvjryp

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:09 AM (U7Mh9)

262 What's the USRDA of toxic masculinity?

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 11:09 AM (NWiLs)

263 Seems to me that the multiverse theory is inherently atheist

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:10 AM (BJlbN)

264 "I would sure like to know why Amazon retracts your download of a book if you have not opened it for a while."

What it should be doing, and there's not enough context in the post for me to tell, is each time you download a book it stays in your local cache.

The local cache has a certain size and if you download enough books to fill up you cache and you need room for more books, it should delete the book in your cache
with the oldest access date.

What I can't tell from the post is whether the device is just arbitrarily deleting books at a certain date or waiting until the cache is full.

However, the point is taken that when you 'own' books or movies or music in the cloud, you don't really own them. You're renting. Only a physical copy is real ownership.

Posted by: Servius at January 20, 2019 11:10 AM (SXIn9)

265 https://tinyurl.com/y8sqp325
Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:02 AM (VaN/j)

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Ha! That story always makes me laugh out loud. I think at heart he only cared about winning, glory, and the thrill of battle, but also was brilliant and sophisticated. Wellington first met the real Nelson, then when Nelson figured out he was talking to a peer, the business Nelson came out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:11 AM (5aX2M)

266 Runner, great idea!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 11:11 AM (dUJdY)

267 So who decides what content gets added to your "updated" book, and what content gets removed? I don't know. And what is their criteria for deciding what edits to make? I don't know. Who ultimately determines what you're allowed to read? I don't know. Not you. That's all I know.
Mrs. BifBewalski publishes on Amazon as an indie. When she's corrects stuff in a follow-up edition, the original version gets updated by Amazon automatically. sometimes her fans have to 'force' the update and sometimes it happens automatically with noninput.

no clue why or how the two different updates are triggered or not triggered.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at January 20, 2019 11:12 AM (8ZeGS)

268
I thought with the "maker" business tinkering would be easier but alas it is not.

Get off my lawn, he says.
Posted by: blaster
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Agreed, in spades. You need some small component, and the only thing to do is order it by mail. What would have been a 15-20 minute ride to shop, becomes 3-4 days of waiting, and possibly buying more than you need.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:12 AM (YvUf/)

269 removal of my purchased books and movies requires a break in at my house.have a few kindles, but majority are page turners. movies all on disks.

Posted by: media old school at January 20, 2019 11:12 AM (Wa5hI)

270 "Some say the monster he created, all the complex stats associated with
baseball, have contributed to making a beautiful game, played on grass
and dirt, into a virtual game "played" by nerds on computers, where the
actual men, doing the actual stuff they do, in real life, lose their
meaning."
The guy in the batter's box still has to hit the ball. The pitcher still has to try to fool him. The fielders still have to make the catch. You can load up baseball with tons of stats (and baseball has always been the most stat crazy of sports) but that doesn't detract from what is actually happening on the field, nor can it take into account the variables that always come into play. Kershaw is unhittable - except when he's not. The guy who's been a poor hitter all season suddenly heats up in the postseason (Orlando Arcia) or the guy who's been hitting like Babe Ruth suddenly cools down (Christian Yelich). Analyze it to death, but the great thing is that you still can't predict how human beings are going to perform on any given day.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 11:13 AM (d6Ksn)

271 Eris,
I have always suspected that "cynocephali"= baboons.
https://tinyurl.com/ydhn6jxj

Posted by: Dr Nilsson at January 20, 2019 11:13 AM (3DZIZ)

272 Ha! That story always makes me laugh out loud. I think at heart he only cared about winning, glory, and the thrill of battle, but also was brilliant and sophisticated. Wellington first met the real Nelson, then when Nelson figured out he was talking to a peer, the business Nelson came out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:11 AM (5aX2M)

sounds like Trump

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:13 AM (BJlbN)

273 unsock

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at January 20, 2019 11:14 AM (3DZIZ)

274 There's a ton of Bill James in this house; The Man From the Train is the only one I haven't read, and didn't buy. My wife is the one into true crime stories. I prefer my murders to make sense, Conan Doyle style.

And, BTW, "the Shift" isn't a stat tool he invented. (He's come up with many, though.) It's a tactic for defense against certain batters, most famously Ted Williams, though it dates back further than that.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 09:37 AM (VaN/j)


James does have another crime book out there, "Popular Crime," which is very good. I would highly recommend that one as well, although the blurb on Amazon makes it sound scoldy, which it is not.

If you enjoy James' writing, and I can't fathom anyone not loving his writing style, these books are worth checking out.

And "The Shift" thing... I think every baseball fan understand the concept of using shifts for different hitters. It's such a simple, long used part of the game (although the routine overuse of shifts these days is new), I can't imagine how anyone would say James somehow invented it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 11:14 AM (cY3LT)

275 The ebook thing still has me worried, a novel I may read again or not is worth the cut priced of paper but historical books I want in real paper as I often pull it out as a reference or just to compare to another. The Russian Officers of the Napoleonic wars is one I wanted in hardback but got ebook in a flash and figured that is it I can't get it switched though my mother who might have hundreds of ebooks said it wouldn't have been a issue.

Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2019 11:14 AM (/rm4P)

276 The concert sounds as great now as I remember thinking it was at the time.



Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 10:17 AM (Z216Q)

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Can't recall. Probably "moderately plus", since I was trying to stay in school.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 11:14 AM (Z216Q)

277 Analyze it to death, but the great thing is that you still can't predict how human beings are going to perform on any given day.

The problem is that the people in front offices have been hypnotized by geeks with stats into making really stupid decision and its affecting the game.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:15 AM (39g3+)

278 Multiple universes generated by individual decisions is a cool and fun idea for fiction.
...
It just seems silly.


It's also not science, quantum or otherwise, because it's totally unfalsifiable. By definition, a "universe" is the set of everything relevant to a given problem domain. If the problem domain is "the nature of reality" then any other universe is not observable in reality. And if you can't observe it one way or the other in order to support or falsify hypotheses, it ain't science.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 20, 2019 11:15 AM (qc+VF)

279 Surely there is a program that will page thru an eBook automatically and take a snapshot of each page. It may not be text, but it could make a copy of the eBook that you could keep.

Posted by: freaked at January 20, 2019 11:16 AM (UdKB7)

280 I don't know that the multiverse theory is inherently atheist. If anything it makes God bigger. Not only is he powerful enough to create everything, he can create EVERYTHING in every permutation. God really is infinite.

I like how cosmology is all like hey that God stuff is looney, but you know what? Stuff just appears. Like magic. So that's science.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 11:16 AM (ZfRYq)

281 A thought on birthright citizenship and English attitudes.

Arthur Wellesley, later Duke Wellington, was born and raised in Ireland as part of the landed gentry. About his Irish heritage he's said to have said: "just because you are born in a stable does not make you a horse."

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 11:17 AM (1UZdv)

282 Haha votermom!
Honestly hubbymayhem is like a furnace. The man rarely gets cold. Even now that he takes blood thinner meds he sits around in short sleeves all winter.
Meanwhile I wear long sleeves until it's 70 degrees. I actually enjoy thos hormonal hot flashes because.....WARM!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 11:17 AM (myjNJ)

283 G-D Juan is beyond annoying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 11:18 AM (Y+V3r)

284 Bill James is responsible for a lot that's wrong with baseball today but that isn't his fault. He was just trying to determine information and new ways of analyzing data, and people are misusing the info.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 10:40 AM (39g3+)


Heh, so then... James isn't responsible for it?

Worth noting, I think he still works for the Red Sox as a consultant. And the guy who put the Astros together is known to be something of a disciple. As was the "Moneyball" guy the A's had for a while there.

James' concepts are being used to analyze player value. Indeed, back in the day, he used to work on arbitration cases, making his information available to teams (or players?), so they could make their cases more clearly on what players' actual value was/is.

I don't see how he's done anything to contribute to the overuse of stats by computer nerds and idiotic broadcasters who are trying to sell tv viewers on the flashy nonsense that pours over their screens like carnival lights and slot machine bells.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 11:18 AM (cY3LT)

285 sounds like Trump
Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:13 AM (BJlbN)

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Good point. I don't know that Trump has the reckless, suicidal bravery, but there are a lot of similarities. Nelson was totally based, bruh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:19 AM (5aX2M)

286 The James Caan version of "Rollerball" had some surprisingly prescient elements in it, especially about the growing corruption of society under Corporate Control. "Jonathan" (James Caan) begins to try to figure out things on his own, so he tries to go to a library. There, he finds out that all of the "libraries" no longer have any actual books or records, tehy just have a link to the Central Database, and the info he wants is restricted. So he travels to the Central Database, and finds out that no one there really knows how to retrieve anything, and are occupied with trying to find the entire 13th century, which has gone missing.

He begins to realize that history is being erased step by step by the people who are really running things.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:19 AM (V2Yro)

287 Heh, so then... James isn't responsible for it?

He started off a new wave of stats that people have taken and misused and damaged baseball with. His ideas are why people think you should swing for the fences every time, don't worry about strike outs, never steal a base, and use an exaggerated shift on every batter. His ideas are why people think you should have a huge bullpen of all short relief instead of a starter with a batch of closers. His acolytes believe that all that matters is the numbers, not the personalities involved.

He didn't TELL anyone to do this, but he provided the tools and pushed the perspective that's led to it. He's responsible for this new wave of bad baseball, that will in time be moved away from.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:21 AM (39g3+)

288
Video shows the widely reported Cov Caf "racist MAGA students" claim was completely false.

What a freak show. Normals vs the crazzzies in Washington DC. The normals aren't used to seeing the crazzzies in their native habitat. Normal kids just having fun. Can't have that.

Posted by: Newest Nic at January 20, 2019 11:22 AM (jYje5)

289 On an InstaPundit recommendation, read ReWrite by Gregg Bedford this week. It really is an excellent piece of science fiction and I enjoyed it thoroughly. One small thing that really sticks in my craw - a completely unnecessary cheap shot at Michael Crichton. The Left will never forgive Crichton applying scientific skepticism to climate change alarmism.

Posted by: motionview at January 20, 2019 11:22 AM (pYQR/)

290 Bill JAMES is just a tool like a radar gun. Like his theories or not, your choice. Kudos to JAMES for at least thinking about it

Oh and these players and all pro athletes are vastly over paid. If they can get it good for them, but I will never cry when these selfish assholes come up short

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 11:22 AM (Y+V3r)

291 Seems to me that the multiverse theory is inherently atheist

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:10 AM (BJlbN)



Yeah, in essence, it is. Because-

"Look, I just drank a Coke. I created a whole buncha universes. That kinda makes me a god!"

It's also not science, quantum or otherwise, because it's totally unfalsifiable. By definition, a "universe" is the set of everything relevant to a given problem domain. If the problem domain is "the nature of reality" then any other universe is not observable in reality. And if you can't observe it one way or the other in order to support or falsify hypotheses, it ain't science.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 20, 2019 11:15 AM (qc+VF)



Exactly. ^^^


Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 11:22 AM (CRRq9)

292 I really appreciate all of the great comments about my modest library...Makes my day!I don't spend nearly as much time in there as I should. Part of the reason, of course, is that whenever I want to read a book, I tend to have a certain furry someone (pictured above) get in my way. This happens for any type of reading material--print or Kindle. However, on rare occasions I will just curl up in the chair with a *different* kitty on my lap and read for awhile. I've also used that room as "broadcast center" of sorts for some online classes I've been taking.I don't buy quite at many print books as I used to, partly because it's difficult to find great quality books anymore. Also, I've gotten quite used to reading on the Kindle app, though it did take some adjustment. Still, there's nothing quite like the feel, smell, and heft of a proper book. It's also easier to flip back and forth as needed. Many of my favorite books have a map or glossary or both, and it's helpful to refer to those as I read through the story.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at January 20, 2019 11:22 AM (y3dEv)

293 >>Heh, so then... James isn't responsible for it?

>>Worth noting, I think he still works for the Red Sox as a consultant. And the guy who put the Astros together is known to be something of a disciple. As was the "Moneyball" guy the A's had for a while there.

Even better example is Theo Epstein. He built the Red Sox into their first World Series championship in generation and then went and did it with Cubs who hadn't won since dirt was invented. He is a big Bill James proponent.

Eh, its just another tool. A useful one but it isn't the be all and end all.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 11:23 AM (/tuJf)

294 "And "The Shift" thing... I think every baseball fan understand the
concept of using shifts for different hitters. It's such a simple, long
used part of the game (although the routine overuse of shifts these
days is new), I can't imagine how anyone would say James somehow
invented it."


It has less to do with James and more to do with tech. In the past you may have had a coach that remembered a certain player couldn't go opposite to save his life, now it's just a mouse-click away for every player.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 20, 2019 11:24 AM (4thlk)

295 It's also not science, quantum or otherwise, because it's totally unfalsifiable.

Correct. Most of the latest scienfiic theories are in this category, more along the lines of 18th century concepts and guesswork than actual science. Its interesting speculation and philosophy, but its only that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:24 AM (39g3+)

296 Ha! That story always makes me laugh out loud. I think at heart he only cared about winning, glory, and the thrill of battle, but also was brilliant and sophisticated. Wellington first met the real Nelson, then when Nelson figured out he was talking to a peer, the business Nelson came out.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:11 AM (5aX2M)


The trouble with that is that, overwhelmingly, the sea officers he served with liked and admired him. I think the opposite is true; he was just insecure among landsmen. Remember, in those days you really went to sea early.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:24 AM (VaN/j)

297 https://tinyurl.com/yb9g9k5r
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I've never heard the phrase "Uncle Tomohawk".


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)

298 286 The James Caan version of "Rollerball" had some surprisingly prescient elements in it, especially about the growing corruption of society under Corporate Control. "Jonathan" (James Caan) begins to try to figure out things on his own, so he tries to go to a library. There, he finds out that all of the "libraries" no longer have any actual books or records, tehy just have a link to the Central Database, and the info he wants is restricted. So he travels to the Central Database, and finds out that no one there really knows how to retrieve anything, and are occupied with trying to find the entire 13th century, which has gone missing.

He begins to realize that history is being erased step by step by the people who are really running things.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:19 AM (V2Yro)

We've been seeing that very thing going on for a good 40 years and it's accelerating.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

299 This week I picked up a few books about whittling by Chris Lubkemann. They are a great place to start for anyone interested in the hobby. But I noticed that the local library used to have several of his books. They no longer list them. Perhaps they were stolen and not replaced but they may have been put in the frequent book sales they hold. The people making such decisions are the same ones that offer history books, full of maps and other graphics, as audible downloads only. F'ing idiots, probably in their 20s or 30s.

This is why I only get physical books for hands on hobbies and the like. It could be wood carving, fiber arts, hand tool use and maintenance, and so forth. People who never use anything except a keyboard can't conceive of the need for anything physical.

Posted by: JTB at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (bmdz3)

300 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:19 AM (V2Yro

Anthony Burgess's "1985" was about, among other things, roving bands of youths that would break into shuttered libraries to read banned manuscripts of history to counter the stultifying propaganda from the public brainwashing facilities.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (y7DUB)

301 I hate the shit. THAT IS CHANGING baseball.
Should be a rule: you can shift but stay on you side of 2 nd base

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (Y+V3r)

302 Since we don't even know the initial origin of the Big Bang yet, so where is all the energy and matter coming from that must required by this theory in the gazillion gazillion to the gazillionth power universes which must be created every second."

By definition, we can NEVER know the initial origin of the Big Bang, not in the scientific sense of knowing. By definition, as understood by current cosmological theory, our Universe began with the "Big Bang". Therefore, the Origin was from some source outside of our universe, meaning it was not bound by our universe's rules of time, matter, and space. From our position inside this universe, we might be able to imagine something else in a bit of creative fantasy, but we will always be incapable of "proving" it, since we would have to leave this universe to do so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (V2Yro)

303 I love the old pulp covers on the walls, they really make a library I think. Original book cover art is the perfect compliment for any library.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (39g3+)

304 And now the maniacs at Black Rifle coffe have mounted a repeating cannon on a prius. Because why the fuck not.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (myjNJ)

305 266 Runner, great idea!!
Posted by: Jewells45 at January 20, 2019 11:11 AM (dUJdY)


But make sure the magnet is really strong. I've had some, you put on your refrigerator, and they just slide right down.

Make it strong enough to hold 3-4 thicknesses of paper onto the refrigerator door, and I'll buy one. And the AoSHQ keychain, too, which looks freakin AWESOME.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (qmw9b)

306 The problem is that the people in front offices have been hypnotized by geeks with stats into making really stupid decision and its affecting the game.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:15 AM (39g3+)


Unlike the old days when they managed to make fools of themselves without the stats.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:27 AM (VaN/j)

307 Multiple universes generated by individual decisions is a cool and fun idea for fiction.



But, when everything from a fly's decision to fly up instead of down
to a water molecule's movement to you picking your nose generates not
just one new universe but a whole slew of possible universes.



It just seems silly.



Since we don't even know the initial origin of the Big Bang yet, so
where is all the energy and matter coming from that must required by
this theory in the gazillion gazillion to the gazillionth power
universes which must be created every second.



Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 11:07 AM (CRRq9)


Looking at plotting a Paratime like book, I was led to the idea that small changes average out, and are detectable by what is considered Zero Point Energy, but actual divergences of timelines were caused by the freak rogue waves that converge and create a divergence cluster, where one line is then sustained by all the adjacent timelines that were created at the same time collapsing and surrendering their energy to the surviving line. This makes all the timelines unique and discrete, and not merely a blur of indistinguishable realities fading into each other.


"Then all the charm
Is broken--all that phantom-world so fair
Vanishes, and a thousand circlets spread,
And each mis-shape the other."



Posted by: Kindltot at January 20, 2019 11:27 AM (mUa7G)

308 Analyze it to death, but the great thing is that you still can't predict how human beings are going to perform on any given day.
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The problem is that the people in front offices have been hypnotized by geeks with stats into making really stupid decision and its affecting the game.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:15 AM (39g3+)


Right, if you want me to say what's wrong with the game, I'll tell you, it's the still under-reported use of steroids, and it's the way the game is marketed and sold to paying customers, both in the stands and on tv screens.

This marketing, which values the big "payoff" means you have power pitchers and power hitters trying to blow baseballs by hitters and hitters trying to knock the ball out of the park.

Which leads to more strikeouts, more walks, more home runs, and less strategy, less actual thought being done on the field of play.

Objectively, the modern game now more resembles the game from the 50s than ever before, and anyone who has read Bill James' historical baseball analysis will realize, the 50s were NOT some time of great glory, it was a time of boring games, that lead to fan indifference, and almost destroyed the game (anyone remember the Brooklyn Dodgers? The New York Giants? The Boston Braves? The St. Louis Browns? The Philadelphia A's?).

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 11:27 AM (cY3LT)

309 22 deg., snow flurries, very gusty winds. I skipped church this morning. Feel badly about it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:27 AM (fZcn6)

310 >>Unlike the old days when they managed to make fools of themselves without the stats.

This is about The Mets, isn't it?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (/tuJf)

311 Should be a rule: you can shift but stay on you side of 2 nd base

If baseball players had the IQ of a garden snail, they'd murder the shift, but they stubbornly refuse to change anything about their swing. Even just shifting your stance very slightly in one direction or another would make a huge difference, but they will not do it, and pay the price.

A few more people bunting down the 3rd base line where NOBODY is covering the base would fix that stupidity. A few more people just stealing 3rd when the shift is on would stop it. But no, they play into this like fools. Stolen bases aren't a true outcome. It gives away outs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (39g3+)

312 I just read Craeft by Alexander Langlands. I can't do the combined ae on my phone). It's a good book and I don't normally like archeologists. This guy was involved with the farming reality shows the BBC made. The book is about how people used the materials in their environment. If you find how people made hay and created ponds interesting, you'll like the book.

I did get the Gosnell book and it's very good so far.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (Lqy/e)

313 On a spectrum, baseball may be the most individualistic team sport, and performance can highly quantified.

Who wouldn't a .275 hitter who takes a lot of walks over a .280 hitter who doesn't. Hence OBP.

Is it better to pay up for one All Star hitter, or upgrade across the batting order? Or do you want a Reggie Jackson to put asses in seats?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (1UZdv)

314 And when some silly bint writes that you should never own more than about 30 books, she can go pee up a rope, too.

I hoard books, which my sister called the only acceptable type of hoarding.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ynUnH)

315 Anthony Burgess's "1985" was about, among other things, roving bands of youths that would break into shuttered libraries to read banned manuscripts of history to counter the stultifying propaganda from the public brainwashing facilities.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (y7DUB)


Was Burgess some sort of prophet? I can well imagine something like that happening here and now, or within 5-10 years.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 11:29 AM (qmw9b)

316 I like the Multiverse theory. What is dark force? For the galaxies to be accellerating away from each other, there must be a force. Is the center of our universe still pushing stuff out? What if the other universes are sucking our stuff toward them?

Posted by: JAS at January 20, 2019 11:29 AM (3HNOQ)

317 I hoard books, which my sister called the only acceptable type of hoarding.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ynUnH)


Hear, hear!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 11:29 AM (qmw9b)

318 Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:26 AM (V2Yro)

My old Sunday school teacher said that big bang was what happened when God clapped his hands and scientists can't prove it wasnt.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 20, 2019 11:30 AM (myjNJ)

319 The trouble with that is that, overwhelmingly, the sea officers he served with liked and admired him. I think the opposite is true; he was just insecure among landsmen. Remember, in those days you really went to sea early.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:24 AM (VaN/j)

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Very possible. And unlike in the Navy, the British public worshipped him as a demigod, so he may have felt a need to be braggadocious as well, to keep up appearances. Nelson was a pretty unique guy. And, he deserves the column - not that Churchill doesn't, too.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:30 AM (5aX2M)

320 Speaking of baseball, anyone know where the term "out of left field" came from?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 11:30 AM (/tuJf)

321 I used to like the show Fixer Upper until I saw that Joanne woman putting books on the shelf backward to decorate with. What books? Who cares, they're just for show.

That's a night in the box.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:30 AM (39g3+)

322 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (39g3+)

Yup. Problem is these idiots today can not bunt. Lol

Where. Is Phil rezzuto when you need him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2019 11:31 AM (Y+V3r)

323 287 Heh, so then... James isn't responsible for it?

He started off a new wave of stats that people have taken and misused and damaged baseball with. His ideas are why people think you should swing for the fences every time, don't worry about strike outs, never steal a base, and use an exaggerated shift on every batter. His ideas are why people think you should have a huge bullpen of all short relief instead of a starter with a batch of closers. His acolytes believe that all that matters is the numbers, not the personalities involved.

He didn't TELL anyone to do this, but he provided the tools and pushed the perspective that's led to it. He's responsible for this new wave of bad baseball, that will in time be moved away from.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:21 AM (39g3+)


But his tools, at least in his opinion, don't instruct anyone to do that. E.g., he is explicit in condemning the overuse of short relievers. And he was MORE skeptical about the shift than other analysts.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:31 AM (VaN/j)

324 I love the old pulp covers on the walls, they really make a library I think. Original book cover art is the perfect compliment for any library.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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My dad liked the Forrester 'Hornblower' series. As a kid, I was struck by the lurid covers of the paperbacks. Later, as an adult, I read them all, and realized that the covers were totally marketing, as the content was unrelated to the covers.

Now, the Mickey Spillane novels were far more related to said lurid covers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:32 AM (fZcn6)

325 Jewells - here a ready etching for you, of another idea, courtesy of Mike Hammer :

I have a coveted 'Kaboom' fridge magnet.

But my favorite is http://tinyurl.com/y8zvjryp
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Posted by: runner at January 20, 2019 11:32 AM (bUjCl)

326 My mother is a hoarder. I used to say borderline but yeah, a hoarder. Not full on house packed floor to ceiling like the TV show but she has a lot of stuff.

A lot less now after she was hospitalized last year and I went with several people and took truckloads of stuff to the dump.

A lot of it was books. She loves to read, and probably kept everything she ever read. She had a whole wall full of readers digest condensed books. They had been there since we moved in in 1979. And they were full of rat and mouse debris. No use to anyone.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 11:32 AM (ZfRYq)

327 Nelson was a pretty unique guy. And, he deserves the column - not that Churchill doesn't, too.

I agree, Nelson deserves the accolades, its just that Churchill does at least as much as well and Brits act like they're embarrassed by the guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (39g3+)

328 And God said, Let there be light, and there was light.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (1UZdv)

329 'Joanne woman putting books on the shelf backward to decorate with'

Maybe they were Mooch and Hilster books. You can probably get cases of em cheap.

Posted by: freaked at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (UdKB7)

330
Bill James was on EconTalk a couple of years ago, IIRC it was really interesting:

tinyurl.com/James-EconTalk

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (KCxzN)

331 "out of left field"
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"out IN left field', I think.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (2qPhT)

332 Let me clarify something here on Amazon deleting books. They don't actually delete the book, it remains indicated in your library. But if it does not have that "check mark" on the cover it will not open unless you re-download it. And this only happens with books purchased through Amazon. And the check mark goes away if you have not opened the book in a while.

If you purchase a book from somewhere else and download it it will have the check mark and it will NOT go away after a while. And it has something to do with that DRM crap.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (mpXpK)

333 The trouble with that is that, overwhelmingly, the sea officers he served with liked and admired him. I think the opposite is true; he was just insecure among landsmen. Remember, in those days you really went to sea early.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:24 AM (VaN/j)


True. I lurvs me some early seamen!

Posted by: Shep! at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (qmw9b)

334 I hoard books, which my sister called the only acceptable type of hoarding.

And ammo! Wait, wrong Sunday thread.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (qc+VF)

335 https://tinyurl.com/yb9g9k5r

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at January 20, 2019 10:52 AM (+Abq4)

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Enjoying this video. Lots of kooks in the world.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, As Woke As He's Gonna Get at January 20, 2019 11:34 AM (Z216Q)

336 " anyone know where the term "out of left field" came from?"

Field of Dreams?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 11:34 AM (1UZdv)

337 its just that Churchill does at least as much ...
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Almost single-handedly saves western civilization.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:35 AM (2qPhT)

338 Probably already discussed but last week some time-- over at PJM, I think-- there was a discussion about that stupid suggestion that one should only own 30 books. Stupidity. That led of course to e- vs. real books. There is no way on God's Green Earth that I would commit my entire library to e-books. I said as much, most agreed. One clear reason is that the lights *do* go out. One asshole tried to make fun of me-- zombie apocalypse & all. What idiots.

I have a lot of old (100+ yrs.) text books. It's always a hoot to compare "the science is settled" to "the science is settled 20 years later." Gives one a sense of humility and perspective.

Posted by: Marica at January 20, 2019 11:35 AM (cykH2)

339 I hoard books, which my sister called the only acceptable type of hoarding.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (ynUnH)
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*nods sagely*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 20, 2019 11:35 AM (kQs4Y)

340 I think we can know something about what caused the universe to begin, since by definition a cause exists independently of its effects. Since the effects in this case are matter, energy, space, and time springing into existence, we can know that the cause of the universe exists independently of matter, energy, space, and time. You can actually deduce several traditional attributes of God from that. You can even argue that this cause must be an intentional agent, although that point gets pretty philosophical.

And, as a Christian, I have no problem with multiverse theories. These originated in order to explain some problems with cosmic inflation, not in order to explain the beginning of the universe without having to appeal to God. At any rate, it sure seems like God loves to create so I don't see why he wouldn't have created many different universes and delights in them. It's like "The Wood between the Worlds" in C.S. Lewis's The Magician's Nephew.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2019 11:35 AM (ynUnH)

341 He started off a new wave of stats that people have taken and misused and damaged baseball with. His ideas are why people think you should swing for the fences every time, don't worry about strike outs, never steal a base, and use an exaggerated shift on every batter. His ideas are why people think you should have a huge bullpen of all short relief instead of a starter with a batch of closers. His acolytes believe that all that matters is the numbers, not the personalities involved.

He didn't TELL anyone to do this, but he provided the tools and pushed the perspective that's led to it. He's responsible for this new wave of bad baseball, that will in time be moved away from.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:21 AM (39g3+)


Except if you read Bill James, he will tell you more clearly than anyone else, how ALL of those things you mention are bad strategy ON THE FIELD.

Regarding the shift in particular, James has written, as have many others, that all it would take to stop shifts, is for players to adjust to it, and start laying bunts down the line, or at least going the opposite way.

George Brett for a while there was heavily shifted on. George Brett did exactly that. He had another set of tools in his arsenal, to play the game on the field, based on what the other team gave him to work with.

So the lack of imagination, and the lack of response to power pitchers and power hitters being susceptible to shifts, is EXACTLY the opposite of what Bill James himself has recommended. And baseball people who are applying his concepts, are in places like Boston and Houston and yes, these days in that hellhole called Wrigley.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 11:35 AM (cY3LT)

342 Which leads to more strikeouts, more walks, more home runs, and less strategy, less actual thought being done on the field of play.


Long ago and far away, when i was stationed in Japan.

I loved Japanese baseball. (the Hiroshima Carps were my team, yo!)

Mainly for the reason of that since they didn't have all the power hitters,

Japanese baseball was strategic and tactical baseball. With sacrifice bunts and all the rest of the chess game stuff, which makes baseball so interesting and fun.

Plus, eating ramen in the stands and grilled squid on a stick just added to the fun.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 11:37 AM (CRRq9)

343 Brits act like they're embarrassed by the guy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (39g3

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Pathetic, isn't it? A nation of sad sacks.

Meanwhile, us Yanks treat FDR as the Second Coming, wholly uncritical of the man's many flaws.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:38 AM (5aX2M)

344 >>"out IN left field', I think.

There is also a term, out of left field, meaning an odd and unexpected turn of events.

A common belief is that it came from the Chicago Cubs pre-Wrigley home, West Side Grounds. There was a mental hospital behind left field so an odd happening was said to come out of left field.

And now you know, the rest of the story.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 11:38 AM (/tuJf)

345 316 I like the Multiverse theory. What is dark force? For the galaxies to be accellerating away from each other, there must be a force. Is the center of our universe still pushing stuff out? What if the other universes are sucking our stuff toward them?"

If Space itself is expanding (which is what we think is happening) then even though every Galaxy is standing still, it looks to every other galaxy like they are accelerating away, and the ones that are farthest away LOOK like they are accelerating the most.

Think of it this way - the galaxies aren't "moving" in the way that we think of the word. It's just that the space between them is increasing.

The result of the "Big Bang" was matter and energy. Matter and Energy generates what we call "space". more accurately, a 4 dimensional space-time continuum.

It seems to me that the idea of a multiverse is cute, but that it violates the principle of conservation of energy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:39 AM (V2Yro)

346 Churchill saved a version of Western civilization. The Germans were Western, too.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 11:41 AM (ZfRYq)

347 I fail to see what is so atheist about the idea of the multiverse. Mind you, I don't see any particular reason to put great weight on it either; it seems to be a conjecture some use to explain odd phenomena. That's not science, it's at most a starting point for scientific investigation.

But it has some affinity with some theistic theories, like possible worlds, which Liebniz and Plantinga use to support belief in God, or Molinism, in which (unlike Aslan) God CAN tell you what would have happened.

It's just "many mansions" taken literally, in one sense.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:41 AM (VaN/j)

348 My mother is a hoarder. I used to say borderline but yeah, a hoarder. Not full on house packed floor to ceiling like the TV show but she has a lot of stuff.

Yeah, hoarding runs in my family. I'm always scared to get rid of stuff because we might need it later. That's why I'm married to a non-hoarder. My mom hoarded stuff a bit, but we realized it was nothing compared to our aunt (her sister). They both grew up in the Depression, so that would probably account for a lot of it. But when our aunt died she left everything to my sister and our cousin, and apparently her house was as bad as anything you see on TV about extreme hoarders. There were tunnels from one room to the next, every room was completely filled with magazines, newspapers, etc.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2019 11:41 AM (ynUnH)

349 236 The ABE 'Weird Book Room'

You have the Liberace fashion guide, too? *Fist bump*

Seriously, though, some of those look like fun books to have. At the antique store a few months back, I saw a book about pyramids. I opened it up, and it was a whole book full of diagrams and explanations of human pyramids--that's right, people standing on other people to make pyramids.

Husband was ready to go, so I left it, and it was not there the next time we went. That book is worthy of the weird book page.

Posted by: April at January 20, 2019 11:42 AM (OX9vb)

350 A few years back, the KC Royals were the most fun team in baseball because they did all the things you're not supposed to do anymore - play small ball, steal bases like crazy, go for the singles and doubles rather than the long ball. The result was really entertaining baseball and I'm surprised other teams didn't pick up on it. But baseball fads come and go - it was small ball until Babe Ruth and the 20's, the 50's was defined by power hitters like Mantle, the 60's was the era of the pitcher, etc.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at January 20, 2019 11:42 AM (d6Ksn)

351 Even during his life, almost all Ruling Class brits hated Churchill. He was a gadfly and an outcast for most of his life, until things got so desperate they had no choice but to grant him power. Even then, most of the ruling class wanted to surrender rather than fight. (as detailed in Darkest Hour)

And then, when Churchill proved to be right, they hated him more than ever for being right and showing that they had been wrong. That's how the Ruling Class rolls.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 11:43 AM (V2Yro)

352 Stolen bases aren't a true outcome. It gives away outs.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (39g3+)


Which, interestingly enough, is a fact that is known primarily because Bill James was doing detailed statistical analysis in the 70s and 80s, when stolen bases were all the rage.

His conclusion was that you had to be successful something like 75-80% of the time, or you were giving away outs. So guys like Ricky Henderson and Tim Raines were helping your team. A guy who stole 20 bases and got caught 10 times, was not.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 11:43 AM (cY3LT)

353 The Universe itself is a violation of conservation of energy. From nothing, something. Everything, in fact.

Smart guys like Hawking say that is just a characteristic of the Universe, that it could just suddenly burst into appearance.

Posted by: blaster at January 20, 2019 11:43 AM (ZfRYq)

354 The NFL has long been tied to gambling. Will MLB follow?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (1UZdv)

355 The multiverse theory means no free will since every decision is covered.

Posted by: WOPR at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (J70i0)

356 I am a hoarder too
*sigh*

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (BJlbN)

357 310 >>Unlike the old days when they managed to make fools of themselves without the stats.

This is about The Mets, isn't it?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 11:28 AM (/tuJf)


( *shifty eyes* )

Um, yes. Yes, it is.

Posted by: The Chicago Cubs at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (qmw9b)

358 I don't see why he wouldn't have created many different universes and delights in them.
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Biblical scholars scoff when I say this, 'That's not what that means', they smugly reply when I quote, 'In my Father's house are many mansions..', and 'I have other sheep that are not of this fold..'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (HTHlp)

359
And ammo! Wait, wrong Sunday thread.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 20, 2019 11:33 AM (qc+VF)
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I prefer to think of it as stockpiling.

Posted by: Weasel at January 20, 2019 11:45 AM (MVjcR)

360 >>A few years back, the KC Royals were the most fun team in baseball

They weren't that fun to some of us Mets fans.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2019 11:45 AM (/tuJf)

361 On multiverse and free will, read Larry Niven's short story, "All the Myriad of Ways". Pretty disturbing.

Posted by: Jim S. at January 20, 2019 11:45 AM (ynUnH)

362 Was Burgess some sort of prophet? I can well imagine something like that happening here and now, or within 5-10 years.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 11:29 AM (qmw9b)


He thought that as smart as Orwell was he had an obdurate blind spot regarding socialism and rewrote 1984 to hammer the trade unions and nonjudgmental equality. It probably doesn't get mentioned much by the libs because of how they get skewered and conservatives for the most part don't care about Burgess.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 20, 2019 11:45 AM (y7DUB)

363 I'm not a 'hoarder', dammit! I'm a 'collector'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 20, 2019 11:45 AM (HTHlp)

364 354 The NFL has long been tied to gambling.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (1UZdv)


No! Next thing you know, the WWE will turn out to be fake.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at January 20, 2019 11:46 AM (qmw9b)

365 The multiverse theory means no free will since every decision is covered.
Posted by: WOPR at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (J70i0)

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I'm intrigued...

Posted by: Jean Calvin at January 20, 2019 11:46 AM (5aX2M)

366 For example, you can download the book 1632 directly from Baen
Books for free. And that is where I got my copy years ago. It has been a
while since I read that book and it still has the "check mark".

I
am trying to find a book that I have not opened for a long time that
has the notation on the first page that it has been sold w/o DRM. No
luck, but I will run across one sooner or later.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2019 11:46 AM (mpXpK)

367 355 The multiverse theory means no free will since every decision is covered.
Posted by: WOPR at January 20, 2019 11:44 AM (J70i0)


Non sequitur.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 20, 2019 11:47 AM (VaN/j)

368 >>The NFL has long been tied to gambling. Will MLB follow?

No, that would be wrong.

Posted by: The Black Sox at January 20, 2019 11:47 AM (/tuJf)

369 I'm not a hoarder, I'm a Horder.

Posted by: Insomniac at January 20, 2019 11:47 AM (NWiLs)

370 I'm trying to redirect my hoarding by usibg some stuff in actual projects

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at January 20, 2019 11:47 AM (BJlbN)

371

God really is infinite.


It took me a while to get to this because Moron, but the concept of God is sorta like every sci-fi fan's dream come true: to contact a higher life form, which is exactly what He is.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 20, 2019 11:48 AM (HaL55)

372 The Rivers of London series is an interesting urban fantasy, by Ben Aaronovitch. The Rivers are characters in their own right. Book Seven has just come out; although I haven't read it yet it's getting good reviews.

Posted by: Lirio100 at January 20, 2019 11:48 AM (JK7Jw)

373 Hodor!

Posted by: Hodor at January 20, 2019 11:48 AM (/tuJf)

374 Meanwhile, us Yanks treat FDR as the Second Coming, wholly uncritical of the man's many flaws.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2019 11:38 AM (5aX2M)


I am, among other things, part of the Saint Delano Truth Squad. Fuck that gimp in particular.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 20, 2019 11:48 AM (y7DUB)

375 Long ago and far away, when i was stationed in Japan.

I loved Japanese baseball. (the Hiroshima Carps were my team, yo!)

Mainly for the reason of that since they didn't have all the power hitters,

Japanese baseball was strategic and tactical baseball. With sacrifice bunts and all the rest of the chess game stuff, which makes baseball so interesting and fun.

Plus, eating ramen in the stands and grilled squid on a stick just added to the fun.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 20, 2019 11:37 AM (CRRq9)


You had me... until you got to the grilled squid.

I mentioned the other day, I was watching the 1983 World Series. It's over now. Eddie Murray came to life in Game 5. Mike Schmidt did not.

Poor poor, Philly fans... I feel sorry.. oh hell, of course I don't!

Anyhoo, strategy. Smart pitching. Defense.

And now I'm starting on the '89 World Series. Steroids. Earthquakes. Home runs. I think it's not a stretch to say the game underwent a fundamental change in those years. We're living in a modern era of baseball that started around 1987, and has been on a downward trajectory ever since.

And of course we are talking about American MLB. Not the game as it is necessarily played elsewhere, at other levels.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 20, 2019 11:48 AM (cY3LT)

376 353 The Universe itself is a violation of conservation of energy. From nothing, something. Everything, in fact. "

yes, BUT - this doubles back to why the source of the Big Bang has to be outside of our universe. Conservation of Energy is a rule of OUR universe. There is no way of knowing whether it applies to any other universe. It follows that something OUTSIDE our universe may very well be able to create other universes - but anything inside our universe, including us and our choices, has to obey the laws of our universe.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2019 1