Vegas Shooting Death Toll Rises to 58; Over 500 Injured
David French Writes About the Strangeness of This Attack

The strangeness begins with the shooter's brother's revelation that the shooter "wasn't an avid gun guy at all" and yet amassed a small arsenal, including (presumably) illegal automatic weapons:


Not sure what it means. Sometimes things are just strange.

Meanwhile, a CBS legal executive said the concert-goers got what they deserved because most of them are probably gun-toting Republicans or something.

"If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing," Geftman-Gold wrote on Facebook. "I'm actually not even sympathetic bc country fans often are Republican gun toters."


A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of large numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing. It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.


Posted by: Ace at 12:42 PM




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1 "No military experience" is what gets me. He had to have trained and planned. Or else somebody trained and planned for him.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 12:43 PM (RD7QR)

2 All your link are belong to us.

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:43 PM (Pi667)

3 Either the brother is lying or the killer was extremely private, even from his family.

Posted by: Aunt Luna's phone at October 02, 2017 12:43 PM (eNHDE)

4 Not an avid gun guy at all...where the hell did he get automatic weapons?

Pass a background check, get a gun. Automatic weapons require a lot more, but guns can be made auto, if capable of being auto, reasonably easy enough.

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:44 PM (Pi667)

5 Did he ever take a trip to some training camp?

Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (rmVvL)

6 morning ace

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (wmaTe)

7 Peaceful dissolution?

Yeah...we'll see.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (AM1GF)

8 One of the articles I read mentioned that the brother didn't talk with the shooter as much as he would have liked since they lived far away.

My analysis would be something happened to the shooter relatively recently and radicalized him, either to attack Las Vegas or to attack a bunch of country music goers.

If it was the former he is probably a standard nut bar if it was the latter well maybe ISIS isn't lying here....

Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (eSx+E)

9 If he is a hunter in Alaska he has to be a gun guy.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (x7Xk5)

10 Top ten?

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (Jcg9Q)

11

the brother is definitely lying

There is no way this murderer never exhibited strange behavior before.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (f7hW7)

12 ace you might want to add this. Willow posted it in the previous thread:


http://tinyurl.com/ya9jrmss

or

http://tinyurl.com/y9akwmb7

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (Enq6K)

13 ISIS or Antifa.

Take your pick.


Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (NrE3O)

14 Brother seems to be holding back info. The info he gave was limited and seemed schooled. Just my opinion.

Posted by: SillyBoy at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (Q3oNv)

15 What ever happened to all Holder's Fast and Furious guns?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (PY9jH)

16 Early information: Niece and her husband were at the concert in question and a guy next to the husband got shot in the head. Husband jumped on wife (probably pulled wife down and got on top of her) then ran first chance they got.

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (qC1Sy)

17 Oh, barely.

AIBGATS.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (Jcg9Q)

18 Is Paddock's girlfriend from the Philippines or Indonesia? I've seen both mentioned. If the former, what part?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (eSx+E)

19 Some people are very private. Don't really know what is going on until that one moment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (ygSog)

20 Dan Riehl's feed has some suggestions he was a drug runner - guy with no apparent source of income, a couple of airplanes and a big house, and a bunch of machine guns.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (x7Xk5)

21 and look, if you didn't think that lib bishes like Hayley Geftman-Gold hated your guts, this is how confident she is in her hate.

hate speech, eh?

Anyway, are we supposed to do what, self-negate, because white men in a country that has a lot of them commit most of the crimes? What kind of math is that?

We know they're lying in general and point they're trying to make is basically hate speech. You cherry pick events, conflate all white men as a single group of actors and ignore, you know, minorities that over-perform when it comes to crime.

At the end of the day, she should know that we know. And what we know is there is no hate like that of a liberal.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (XhN8Z)

22 that brother looks high as fuck.

"man, I mean, he have got married, I don't know. Shitt..."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (wmaTe)

23 Multiple weapons. Fired til dry then picked up another.

Why not a singe weapon with multiple mags?

Did not know how or was not confident in his ability to reload?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (NrE3O)

24 What ever happened to all Holder's Fast and Furious guns?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:46 PM (PY9jH)


This is a very good, unfortunately not obvious, question that must be asked.

I wonder if we'll ever know, if it's discovered true......

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (Pi667)

25 he might have*

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (wmaTe)

26 A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of large numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing.

It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.



Or a violent ugly one. Their call.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (gR+IE)

27 A few things from the Daily Mail. His father was a notorious bank robber who was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic and spent some time on the FBI's most wanted list in the 70s. Also, the suspect was HEAVILY into gambling, and apparently made some huge bets in the last few weeks.

Posted by: Gualtiero Jacopetti and Franco Prosperi at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (toi7g)

28 *single

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (NrE3O)

29 How old is this Haley scrunt? She looks like she's just out of law school, and she's an executive at CBS?

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (7HtZB)

30 He had to have trained and planned.

-----

Judging by the way he pulled the trigger and dumped his mags.... he didnt "train" with automatic weapons at all.

Posted by: THE MSM at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (8XRCm)

31 Waiting on facts to come out. And, sadly, probably for the death toll to rise further. So very sad.

Even sounds like it was a kickass music festival too.

Posted by: deplorable shillelagh at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (FIcZA)

32 that screen shot keeps on giving, take notes on her friends who agree with her.

seriously, take notes. It's hate speech and hate speech isn't protected and I think it's time we punished the lefts' hate speech.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (XhN8Z)

33
frickin sock.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (8XRCm)

34 Dear Hayley, jump off a cliff. Pretty sure VagISIL can help with that. Since you have their mindset.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (ygSog)

35 for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.

Can we try re-institutionalizing 10k of the wackiest Democrats 1st?

Posted by: DaveA at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (FhXTo)

36 The CBS exec apparently doesn't understand the Constitution and it's bearing on bearing arms.....

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (Pi667)

37 Taya Kyle was on Outnumbered. She had friends at the concert, some were backstage.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (PY9jH)

38 20 Dan Riehl's feed has some suggestions he was a drug runner - guy with no apparent source of income, a couple of airplanes and a big house, and a bunch of machine guns.
Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (x7Xk5)

Or somebody supplied those to him. (I hate being such a conspiracy theorist but the times seem to require it.)

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (RD7QR)

39 but guns can be made auto, if capable of being auto, reasonably easy enough.
_______
Agree, but that is usually done by "gun guys", if he wasn't one, I wonder who he knew that was. Or he learned online, I guess we'll find out eventually.

Posted by: BuckIV at October 02, 2017 12:48 PM (CLfqv)

40 And right on cue the gun control ghouls are out in force

Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (O2RFr)

41 I don't trust women with hyphenated last names or men with hyphenated first names.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (7HtZB)

42 BTW... has there ever been a case where someone committed a serious crime and afterwords, those who knew them said they were unstable?

It's always the same:

"He was a great guy."

"He used to shovel my sidewalk when it snowed."

"He never had parties at his house and was quiet."

"He always waved at us from across the street."


Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (aT+Bx)

43 No news agency that I have seen says it was a full auto weapon. They do say it was rapid fire and some witnesses said it sounded like an automatic weapon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (mpXpK)

44 Fucking ISIS.

Posted by: @Peeteysdee at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (f6fEL)

45 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (9F7aA)

46 Off, Italian directors sock.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (toi7g)

47 1 "No military experience" is what gets me. He had to have trained and planned. Or else somebody trained and planned for him.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 12:43 PM (RD7QR)

It doesnt take much experience to figure out how to shoot a gun at a crowd of thousands of people and hit a bunch of them.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (wmaTe)

48 It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.


*******


I can't see that happening. It's more analogous to an invasive cancer within healthy tissue. So deeply imbedded that you can't surgically separate the two. Any attempt to eradicate the cancer will also eradicate the normal healthy cells. Prognosis? Who knows? Probably grim.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (mvenn)

49 this guy, bio is listing only 6 years intermittent employment 3 as auditor at Lockheed Martin. Owned 2 planes, 400k home

reihl twitter

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (FKrah)

50 >>"man, I mean, he have got married, I don't know. Shitt..."

It has to be a tad disconcerting to wake up and find out your dead brother just committed the worst shooting in the country's history.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (/tuJf)

51 also, to repeat me from last thread:

Mmm, if this is true about the cbs executive, then trump's next tweet is going to be gloroooiioussss.

I don't know what CBS actually does anymore, probably shows about crime procedurals in which central casting diversity turns out 2b murdered by hateful trumpies.

good biz model tho.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (XhN8Z)

52 yo

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (7yL6V)

53 @ shibumi-left off "Loved his mother."

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (qC1Sy)

54 If we had an actual, functioning FBI, shouldn't they be having a little conversation with Ms. Geftman-Gold? Seems she's pretty excited about a bunch of Republicans getting killed and injured. Kind of like the Bernie Bro who shot up the baseball practice.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (PY9jH)

55 CBS's viewship tends to be older & rightish. Of course older means they may have no idea what the bint said online.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (7HtZB)

56
That woman is almost as sick as the shooter, I would assume she is also no longer employed.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (r+sAi)

57 Possible Trump hater?

http://tinyurl.com/ya6v9joc

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (7yL6V)

58 Well they did find out that he has.... A hunting and fishing license so you know what that means.....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (O2RFr)

59 I'll bet Haley has a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign on her lawn. Because...tolerance.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (O5Q3r)

60 Dan Riehl's feed has some suggestions he was a drug runner - guy with no apparent source of income, a couple of airplanes and a big house, and a bunch of machine guns.
Posted by: blaster


That sounds more likely. His father had served time in prison.
He was likely hooked into one of the Mexican drug cartels.

Not ISIS, not Antifa. Maybe he was in over his head about something and they were coming for him.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (vcOmj)

61 It has to be a tad disconcerting to wake up and find out your dead brother just committed the worst shooting in the country's history.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (/tuJf)

Fair enough.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (wmaTe)

62 so i'm starting to think this guy has made some money in his time, also has a gambling issue.

owes a casino big?

still why kill people that have nothing to do with your issues?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (FKrah)

63 There are reports a neighbor said our boy disappeared for about six months last year.

Hmmm.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (SRKgf)

64 Possible Mohammedan?

http://tinyurl.com/ybbcwf8m

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (7yL6V)

65 29 How old is this Haley scrunt? She looks like she's just out of law school, and she's an executive at CBS?
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017

*
*
Probably married up, to somebody at CBS or who owns part of CBS.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (PFlOK)

66 This is definitely not the right narrative for right-wing militia guy snapping.

Guy is not a gun nut, shoots up a place where mostly "rednecks" would be at, ISIS claims responsibility and there's even a video now floating around that looks like him with a pussy hat on at an anti Trump rally.


No idea what is fake or genuine but it really seems out of character for a Timothy McVeigh style attack

Posted by: Maritime at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (lKmt3)

67 56
That woman is almost as sick as the shooter, I would assume she is also no longer employed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (r+sAi)

That only happens to people who say badthink about TFG & his spawn. She'll get promoted.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (7HtZB)

68 5 Did he ever take a trip to some training camp?
Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 12:45 PM (rmVvL)

See #63.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (SRKgf)

69
I'll bet Haley has a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign on her lawn. Because...tolerance.


Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (O5Q3r)


And a Coexist sticker on her car, along with an "I'm With Her--->" or Bernie sticker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)

70 The distance factor from room to crowd could be a psychological factor. Paddock never saw a face, it was just a blob to shoot at.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (ygSog)

71 That woman is almost as sick as the shooter, I would assume she is also no longer employed.
--

I would certainly not assume that.

She did it on her personal account, which is "free speech."

Can't punish her for that!

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (aT+Bx)

72 He and his girlfriend also owned a home in Florida that they would only visit a few times a year, for just a couple of days. He seemed to have lots of cash.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (toi7g)

73 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (9F7aA)


As they blame the NRA for the shooting in the same breath.

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Pi667)

74 No news agency that I have seen says it was a full auto weapon. They do say it was rapid fire and some witnesses said it sounded like an automatic weapon.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (mpXpK)

Listen to the twitter videos. No way somebody pulls a trigger that fast.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Jcg9Q)

75 "A hunting and fishing license so you know what that means....."

It's John Kerry?

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (3myMJ)

76 He was likely hooked into one of the Mexican drug cartels.

Not ISIS, not Antifa. Maybe he was in over his head about something and they were coming for him.



Why not just disappear somewhere in Montana or N Dakota?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (gR+IE)

77 A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of large
numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people
should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing. It's time
for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.
---
Chance that anyone on the left gets that this is the 'better angels' option-0.00%

Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (XQvuQ)

78 Remember who has a brother who's an exec at CBS?

Ben F*cking Rhodes.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (PY9jH)

79 And cut Eric Paddock some slack. He might be drugged out because the media has probably blown up his whole life in a matter of a couple hours on top of dealing with the news of what his brother has done.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (ygSog)

80 That CBS scrunt needs to lose her job. Bitch.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (INJFV)

81 A country in which large numbers of people in the media cheerlead the deaths of large numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing. It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (tRaq7)

82 Guy is going to turn out to be a retired union democrat.

His own story will of course be buried like Saclise's shooter was in "feeling the Bern."

Thus far not one mass casualty event has fit the media's preferred narrative/

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (SzZnW)

83 also, trump 2020 really does thank you for delivering Ohio, Wisconsin, PA, and Michigan again.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (XhN8Z)

84 57 Possible Trump hater?

http://tinyurl.com/ya6v9joc
Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (7yL6V)

Some resemblance but inconclusive.

Posted by: WisRich at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (G0vdT)

85 A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of large numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing.

Mass exile of Democrats?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (60v4h)

86 Video footage of what appears to be the Vegas shooter at an anti-Trump rally in August:

https://twitter.com/RodStryker/status/914888494799101955

Posted by someone below thread. Video of guy at anti trump rally with girlfriend. Perhaps.

Posted by: Simplemind at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (ifaji)

87 You know who else had several homes & a lot of planes?

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (7HtZB)

88
I'm going to take a short venture out on a limb and suggest he had money, liked to gamble, got over-served, lost a bundle, and decided to do permanent damage to Mandalay Bay's reputation. There was one report this morning that he had a prior dispute with some unnamed casino.

I know a guy who owned a plane. Wealthy as hell. I've never known anyone wealthy enough to own two planes.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (EgwCt)

89 45 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.
Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (9F7aA)



So the dog that didn't bark?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (SRKgf)

90 It's not time for a peaceful dissolution, it's time for that CBS twunt to get her scalp handed to her. First firing....

Posted by: Traddy at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (GSJcT)

91 74 Listen to the twitter videos. No way somebody pulls a trigger that fast.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Jcg9Q)

I don't have twitter.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (mpXpK)

92 Well, obviously the brother is full of shit.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (oVJmc)

93 I feel great relief Haley, doesn't own a gun. I know what She would do with one.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (FKrah)

94 Well,if he left the country the Feds will know it.

Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (rmVvL)

95 Oh, his neighbors also claim he was a country music lover. Maybe he went schizo like his father and came to believe that country music was the devil and all the fans were Satan worshippers?

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (toi7g)

96 64 Possible Mohammedan?

http://tinyurl.com/ybbcwf8m
Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (7yL6V)

Again: How trustworthy is Arut Sheva?

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (RD7QR)

97 67 56
That woman is almost as sick as the shooter, I would assume she is also no longer employed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 12:50 PM (r+sAi)

That only happens to people who say badthink about TFG & his spawn. She'll get promoted.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017

*
*
She'll apologize to her boss, and then entertain him well in bed when they go home tonight. All forgotten.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (PFlOK)

98 81 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (tRaq7)

I dunno BB, I live in a predominantly union democrat town. In the surgeon's office lobby I heard the gamut of "our nation is insane" and "what kind of nation can we have where 40% hate our flag in the NFL" to "who cares they were probably Trump voters."

I just broke out my usual, "we live in the world's largest open air insane asylum folks."

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (SzZnW)

99 I'm gonna bet that his online searches and visits are gonna add up to a Bernie or Hillary guy, and that he couldn't stand Christians.

He was a rabid leftist atheist, and that's why his family is playing dumb.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (1JnAL)

100 I'm not sure that guy at the anti Trump rally is him. Can anyone clear that up?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (FKrah)

101 Ace, even if there were a dissolution, the left would never be complacent. Whatever normal, conservative state would be their neighbor, they would still seek to punish, harass, and infiltrate it. They will never abide its existence, and will always be on the offensive.

Posted by: Brisco_County Sr at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (XXl7H)

102 I smell Mohammedan. Israel story seems pretty certain he is one.


http://tinyurl.com/ybbcwf8m

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (7yL6V)

103 And cut Eric Paddock some slack. He might be drugged
out because the media has probably blown up his whole life in a matter
of a couple hours on top of dealing with the news of what his brother
has done.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (ygSog)


THIS. And the poor 90 y.o. mother lives down the street.

My sister is a bat-shit loony prog. I'd hope if she ever did anything insane, I and my family wouldn't be blamed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (PY9jH)

104 95 Oh, his neighbors also claim he was a country music lover. Maybe he went schizo like his father and came to believe that country music was the devil and all the fans were Satan worshippers?

So Trump voter!


The media

Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (O2RFr)

105 Listening to media types talk about guns is depressing. They have no clue what they're talking about, but think they're the smartest thing ever.

This douche on NBC is talking about the guy shouting accurately....must've used a bi or tripod.......

OMG.

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (Pi667)

106 74 No news agency that I have seen says it was a full auto weapon. They do say it was rapid fire and some witnesses said it sounded like an automatic weapon.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (mpXpK)

Listen to the twitter videos. No way somebody pulls a trigger that fast.
Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Jcg9Q)

I don't know, I think it's hard to judge and that we might be hearing an echo, reverb, and the general shittiness of cell phone microphones.

If had automatic weapons, that makes this whole thing a lot more weird.

I can imagine a situation in which he was firing a semi-auto rifle very rapidly and that it would sound like automatic fire on a cellphone video recorded from below and at a distance when there is a lot of building materials and sound stages and whatnot around to allow sound to echo off of.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (wmaTe)

107 94 Well,if he left the country the Feds will know it.
Posted by: steevy at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (rmVvL)

Wha? Let me finish my nap. zzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: Sleepy Sessions at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (7HtZB)

108 Where is the full auto idea coming from? It wouldn't be necessary if he had the 8 or 10 rifles as mentioned. Standard magazines would give him plenty of rounds, a number of rifles would allow the barrels to cool down. Semi-auto with .223 or 7.62x39 could be done at 5 rounds per second with some control.

Living in a desert area you could practice easily in isolation. This seems to be well planned out and the choice of a high up room would mean that, unlike the guy who shot at the baseball game, he would not have to worry about incoming fire disrupting his concentration. The cameras to spot police also would allow him to be sure that he would know before they could take him.

Buying 10 rifles would not be a problem as long as you had money and if he took a bit of time it wouldn't even be noticed.

Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (zOpu5)

109
I know its a bit early for the funny, but which one of you Morons was at the Vegas concert and did THIS!!

http://tinyurl.com/yb898amb

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (8XRCm)

110 >>>I'm not sure that guy at the anti Trump rally is him. Can anyone clear that up?

Shhhhh!!!

:::eats popcorn:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (lqd9d)

111 A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of
large numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and
people should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing.



Mass exile of Democrats?
---

Nah.

Conservatives must conform or be jailed/k*lled, depending on their crime.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (aT+Bx)

112 The irony and total lack of self-awareness coming from the Left about deaths when they promote policies like abortion and are against deporting criminal illegal immigrants is f*cking appalling.


Posted by: AdamPM at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (uSn+c)

113 CBS exec just irked that not enough plebes are watching the diverse and woke Star Trek Discovery on their stupid streaming service? Media keeps self imploding their empires from within.

In a just world she would be fired, but she'll probably be promoted. Or fired and then hired somewhere else and promoted. SJWs protect their own.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (hvf9s)

114 I know a guy who owned a plane. Wealthy as hell. I've never known anyone wealthy enough to own two planes.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (EgwCt)

It could be just a couple of puddle jumpers. Haven't heard any descriptions yet.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (Jcg9Q)

115 Where is the full auto idea coming from?

------

Sound clips.


Definitely not semi auto.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (8XRCm)

116 It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.

Think that ship has sailed since they are rejoicing at the deaths of people on the right.

Question for the horde:
Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)

117 The brother: Shifty eyes, lilting voice, odd hand movements. Way more animated than one might expect, under the circumstances.

There may very well be... as they say, more to the story.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (TOk1P)

118 it's hard to get work done when the world is running down

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (7HtZB)

119 99 Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (1JnAL)

Yup, I'd bet money on it.

Mesquite is a nice quiet town too.

Wife, lad and I stayed there over his spring break so he could go see "The Real Fallout New Vegas" landmarks.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (SzZnW)

120 I would suggest folks start taking screen shots of their lib friends who suggest that the good, decent, God fearing normals had it coming.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (XhN8Z)

121 I don't have twitter.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (mpXpK)

You can go to ZeroHedge and see them.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (Jcg9Q)

122 Vegas was a horrible incident and well know more soon enough.
The gun grabbers, though, should consider the magnitude of this violence has been ongoing to the tune of 10X over in Shitcago since the first of the year.

Posted by: Derptastic at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (DB16e)

123 117 The brother: Shifty eyes, lilting voice, odd hand movements. Way more animated than one might expect, under the circumstances.

There may very well be... as they say, more to the story.

More like he is in shock

Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (O2RFr)

124 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (9F7aA)

As they blame the NRA for the shooting in the same breath.
Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Pi667)

as they blame the victims for possibly being a trump supporter /certainly a gun supporter

she's this woman and Hillary.
what Doo they have in common?

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (FKrah)

125 The dispute he had was with the Cosmopolitan. He claimed he injured himself on property, it was dismissed with prejudice. Sounds like the old "Oh I slipped on your wet floor now pay me!" kinda shit.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (toi7g)

126 If the guy didn't know anything about weapons maybe he's not solely responsible. Maybe he was involved with other people who either killed him (or he killed himself). That sounds like a huge body count for one guy shooting from a distance.

Could be other killers out there who left this guy as the fall guy.

Posted by: Jihadi at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (I64i9)

127 118 it's hard to get work done when the world is running down

**

fuck me, righjt? Can I bill at least a half hour today? and today's a loss...

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (XhN8Z)

128 >>Where is the full auto idea coming from?

From the videos. I'm no gun expert but it sure sounded like automatic weapons fire.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (/tuJf)

129 73 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 12:49 PM (9F7aA)

As they blame the NRA for the shooting in the same breath.
Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Pi667)




The Demunists not in the know blame the NRA and parrot the usual.

The Demunists in the know want this to go away, and I suspect we know why--shooter is a Leftist, Muslim Convert, or both.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (ujg0T)

130 "a peaceful voluntary national dissolution"

in sulfuric acid

Posted by: Corona at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (/T+WW)

131 Given the attitude of the left, I suggest everyone be prepared to....

ask questions later.....

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (7ZVPa)

132 Mmm, if this is true about the cbs executive, then trump's next tweet is going to be gloroooiioussss.
---
If you took JP Morgan's advice last week to short CBS stock because of NFL ratings, I think you just hit the jackpot.

Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (XQvuQ)

133
I'm not sure that guy at the anti Trump rally is him. Can anyone clear that up?


About 20% of old white guys look like that. Esp. in a pussy hat.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (oVJmc)

134 Or a violent ugly one. Their call.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (gR+IE)

---

They keep trying, but the violent right-wing gun nuts just won't bite for some weird reason.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (UUvSq)

135 country fans often are Republican gun toters

so what are rap fans?

Posted by: wth at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (HgMAr)

136 80 That CBS scrunt needs to lose her job. Bitch.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (INJFV)




Anyone out there terminally ill? Before you go hunt for OJ, hunt this scrunt down.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (ujg0T)

137 They keep trying, but the violent right-wing gun nuts just won't bite for some weird reason.

But he liked Country music


CNN

Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (O2RFr)

138 Progs like "legal expert" Haley have no sympathy for white people.
We're not allowed to mourn for them or sympathize with them, cause they responsible for all the suffering on this planet.
So if a few die, it's great!
Fuck her.

Posted by: HamiltonNJ at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (sCjDS)

139 CBS exec just irked that not enough plebes are watching the diverse and
woke Star Trek Discovery on their stupid streaming service?


Yeah. It's the audience's fault.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (oVJmc)

140 Annnnnddd, proud as she is of her political and moral superiority, Hayley Geftman-Gold has set her twitter account to private

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (LISuA)

141 About 20% of old white guys look like that. Esp. in a pussy hat.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (oVJmc)

LOL. Only the ones that are 55 and older. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (iVOAv)

142 The guy in the anti-Trump video...there are a lot of people who look like that. Very inconclusive.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (l9m7l)

143 How does someone find that video that fast?

That's just weird. No idea if that's the guy, but just weird.

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (3myMJ)

144 "If they wouldn't do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing," Geftman-Gold wrote on Facebook. "I'm actually not even sympathetic bc country fans often are Republican gun toters."

**types**

**deletes**

**seethes with white-hot rage**

Nothing would please me better than to see PDT retweet this bitch's vile spew and directly ask CBS why she still has a job.

Beyond that, I can't post.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (X6fMO)

145 The way so much information is being withheld is unsettling to me. I've searched and searched and there's almost no new solid info out there but the very basics.

Posted by: D-FENS at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (q1ack)

146 Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (zOpu5)

If you listen to the multitude of cell phone videos from the arena, it sounds like a full-auto gun.

But as I've said -- you can squeeze the trigger pretty quickly with a semi auto and get a similar effect.

Plus, I don't really trust the audio on the cell phone videos. I know when I've recorded myself shooting, my iphone does a horrible job of picking up the sound and it sounds weird. I don't know how it would sound being recorded at a distance, way below the plane of fire, with buildings and other obstacles around causing echos.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (wmaTe)

147 That you don't need "military experience" to fire a gun, isn't news to thousands is gun owners.

I don't get the connection.

Is that some kind of liberal attempt at stereotyping?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (NMCva)

148 Vic I don't have twitter either, but you can be linked to specific twitters and not join

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (FKrah)

149 This is really really fucked up.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (NWiLs)

150 132 Mmm, if this is true about the cbs executive, then trump's next tweet is going to be gloroooiioussss.
---
If you took JP Morgan's advice last week to short CBS stock because of NFL ratings, I think you just hit the jackpot.

***

wow.

just want to throw it out there that I'm sure there're a bunch of hyphenated legal career gals out there at all the networks who are really quick to share their opinions on this.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (XhN8Z)

151 Female companion is back as a person of interest.

She's out of the country. They are going to talk to her when she comes back.

What if she doesn't?

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (x7Xk5)

152 140 Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (LISuA)

Which is why I am a free speech absolutist, I prefer idiots out themselves with a modicum of theatricality.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (SzZnW)

153
The brother: Shifty eyes, lilting voice, odd hand movements. Way more animated than one might expect, under the circumstances.
There may very well be... as they say, more to the story.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (TOk1P)


I don't know how I would act right after finding out my brother just murdered 50 people.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (lKyWE)

154
Is that some kind of liberal attempt at stereotyping?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (NMCva)

---

Probably the same reasoning behind making sure everyone knew he had a hunting license.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (UUvSq)

155 73 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.




This can ONLY mean one thing... He's a democrat. Has anyone checked his voter registration and donation list?

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (7yL6V)

156 Trump, "the only hate in this country is coming from people like San Juan's Mayor and Hayley Geftman-Gold of CBS. They are the ones with the anger issues."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (ygSog)

157 I'll bet Haley has a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign on her lawn. Because...tolerance.


Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 12:51 PM (O5Q3r)

And a Coexist sticker on her car, along with an "I'm With Her--->" or Bernie sticker.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (PY9jH)



With an asterisk saying Except white gun owners. They all deserve to die

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (493sH)

158 Ratspootin @ratspootin 1m

Hate should have no home @CBS

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-legal-exec-no- sympathy-because-country-music-fans-often-are-republican/

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (60v4h)

159 Let's cheerlead for the deaths of people who don't agree with us.

It's no small wonder why the worst among us are always liberals or products of their environment.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (NMCva)

160 >>> Well, obviously the brother is full of shit.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 12:54 PM (oVJmc)

I think in cases like this the family just wants to keep their head in the sand, refuse to believe the DNA of pure evil flows in them too. Plausible deniability. Every shooter is pure as the wind driven snow at first, loves their momma and puppies, etc. Until we find out they don't.

Posted by: LizLem at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (hvf9s)

161 Clearly, like the hurricanes, this is punishment for Nevada going for Trump. /

Posted by: ShainS at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (CmUCs)

162 Listen to all the stupid assumptions flying around:

"He wasn't a gun nut."
"He wasn't a Republican."
"He wasn't a NRA Right Winger"
"He wasn't a hunting fanatic"
"Where could he possibly get a gun?"

A) As if a (possibly illicit) firearm dealer, or the firearm itself, gives a flying crap what your ideological alignment is.

and

B) that any of those things above automatically imply "violent mass murderer"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (hcyUh)

163 74 Listen to the twitter videos. No way somebody pulls a trigger that fast.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:52 PM (Jcg9Q)

Wayched a u-tube video. Yeah it sounds like a full auto,

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (mpXpK)

164 For those of you still questioning if his weapons were full auto: Seriously, go to YouTube, turn on cable news, go to any news web site. You can watch videos where you can CLEARLY hear his gun spitting out several rounds per second.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (toi7g)

165 98 I just broke out my usual, "we live in the world's largest open air insane asylum folks."

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 12:55 PM (SzZnW)


Hey, a Sven sighting! Good to see you back; I do wish it were under better circumstances...

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (5sQ8t)

166 ISIS or Antifa.

Take your pick.


Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed


Embrace the healing power of "and".

Also, question for the folks more knowledgeable in gunsmithing than I: How difficult would it be to, well, build a fully automatic weapon? Not something that would be expected to hold up under prolonged use, just sort of a one-off deal intended for use in a single incident? Because something like that could be an explanation for our mystery weapon(s)...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (AM1GF)

167 Have any Dems proposed legislation yet to ban country music?

Posted by: ShainS at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (CmUCs)

168 155 Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (7yL6V)

I've been busy enough at work I have not done internet sleuthing for a bit....

It seems open secrets is not reporting on individuals like it once did.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (SzZnW)

169 Strange indeed. Couple of points, take them with a grain of salt as I am getting older and can't remember shit. Two ways to have fully auto-buy it with Class III or modify. Now modifying ain't what it used to be back when SOF magazine offered new sears for your trigger assembly. Colt intentionally changed the lower assembly of the AR so as to prevent any of that shit from happening. Wild ass guess you would have to mill out part of the lower to even begin to do the changeover.No gunsmith I, but metinks a "non gun guy" like this either ain't a non gun guy or is steeped in it if he did the mod. Second-HRc politicised it of course. It is what she does. set aside the debate one thing I would be pretty sure of- Nobody can rock fully surpressed and maintain a sustained rate of fire for too long. They foul and trap heat. Yeah yeah yeah 10 weapons. But this guy simply sprayed and sprayed. Archane bulshit, and possibly wrong I know. I mention it because HRC says shit that is probably untrue and is taken as gospel. The "decision to send the USNS Comfort was the wrong decision. They had prepositioned two Helicopter Assault ships which were the corrrect vessels. HRC's pick was the rube's pick. It needs precious dock space . Yet "She knew." This is how you get another Trump.

Posted by: Mac at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (fOoQ8)

170 Annnd let me take a wild guess that Hayley hasn't attended church since she was Confirmed. That ,or she wasn't a member of the local Chabad movement and also voted for Hillary or Bernie. No God but the Strate.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (iVOAv)

171 Heard soundbite from brother - he says "He's never even drawn his gun..."

That sounds a little different from "he's not a gun guy."

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (x7Xk5)

172 151 Female companion is back as a person of interest.

She's out of the country. They are going to talk to her when she comes back.

What if she doesn't?
Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (x7Xk5)

Then the government of the country she's in invites her to take a plane trip to the USA at their expense.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (RD7QR)

173 CBS exec just irked that not enough plebes are watching the diverse and woke Star Trek Discovery on their stupid streaming service?

Yeah. It's the audience's fault.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (oVJmc)


Which is what the director of mother! said. People were too stupid to go to his great movie

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (493sH)

174 First headline I saw this morning claimed he was a "hunter".
Hunter of what?

Posted by: Glenn John at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (LilNs)

175 155 73 What's strange is the democrats saying not to politicize it.




This can ONLY mean one thing... He's a democrat. Has anyone checked his voter registration and donation list?
Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (7yL6V)

Probably. If he had the slightest whiff of right-of-center about him they'd be politicizing the shit out of it. Of course they are anyway with their standard gun control screeching.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (NWiLs)

176 So, is it Trump's fault yet?

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (7yL6V)

177 115,
" Where is the full auto idea coming from?


------


Sound clips.


Definitely not semi auto."


Bump fire would sound as fast and not require NFA paperwork.

Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (zOpu5)

178 For someone who's supposedly a "CBS legal executive", she really doesn't seem too bright if she put out that bullshit on Twitter.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (O5Q3r)

179 165 Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (5sQ8t)

Happy to be back, I am mostly on the ONT.

I post at Insty's some, work has been hectic.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (SzZnW)

180 I don't know how I would act right after finding out my brother just murdered 50 people.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (lKyWE)

I would not be speaking to the media at all, that's for sure.

But whatever, we probably shouldn't be hard on him. I can;t even imagine what he's going through

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (wmaTe)

181 Firmly against peaceful dissolution.

Firmly in favor of punitive conquest of the poisoned lands.

Posted by: Maximus Pugilarius at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (MvnyR)

182 Footage shows clearly it was an automatic weapon. That had to be some ridiculously scary shit.

Posted by: Sponge at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (Pi667)

183
Let's cheerlead for the deaths of people who don't agree with us.
---

Paul Joseph Watson has a post up at infowars.com about leftists celebrating this.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (aT+Bx)

184 That CBS scrunt is way over her allotment of names:


Hayley Geftman-Gold (Hayley Lattman)


Da Fuq?!

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (Enq6K)

185 More and more i'm believing that we need guns to protect ourselves from the rabid fascists that liberals have become.
In their Utopia they control anyone with differing ideas not only mentally which they attempt to do now with PC shaming and dehumanization but also physically by sponsoring Antifa and other violent groups. As 'moderate Muslims' look the other way from atrocities, so would old style liberals.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (QHqvr)

186 you don't just pick up that kind of weaponry and learn while you are shooting people. This was well planned and executed.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (NMCva)

187 So, is it Trump's fault yet?

Always

Posted by: Your sycophant press at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (O2RFr)

188 I don't know how I would act right after finding out my brother just murdered 50 people.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (lKyWE)

Well, at least his response was not, "awww, only 50? Come on, man, we practiced this shit!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (hcyUh)

189 Question for the horde:
Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed



High thee ass to Texas. Plenty of land and jobs.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (gR+IE)

190 176 So, is it Trump's fault yet?

Posted by: Geroge at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (7yL6V)

---

Two or so hours ago IIRC. Something about "Republican Hate Kills" or the like.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (UUvSq)

191
*fistbumps Sven*



Long time no see brother.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (8XRCm)

192 as I said, this season of AHS:Cult just keeps self-writing.

I'm not shocked or upset that this career gal with the hyphenated name said this. We know they fucking hate us. And to be fair, country music fest isn't really me. But to the hate filled left, we're all lumped into this weird stereotype.

southpark even made fun of it when their hate filled lib made a southern accent to make fun of NYC for having a columbus statue.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (XhN8Z)

193 ISIS or Antifa.

Take your pick.

------

AntifISIS

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (7HtZB)

194

Eek, read the newest post at Brandon's twitter feed.

Another...

Greg Morelli

Soon as I heard it was country music, I felt relief. White people shooting white people isn't terror...it's community outreach.


sick f's

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (fceHP)

195 Also, question for the folks more knowledgeable in gunsmithing than I: How difficult would it be to, well, build a fully automatic weapon? Not something that would be expected to hold up under prolonged use, just sort of a one-off deal intended for use in a single incident? Because something like that could be an explanation for our mystery weapon(s)...
Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (AM1GF)

It can be done but you have to know what you're doing. The stuff about how easy it is to convert a semi-auto to full auto "using this one weird trick" is basically urban legend.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (NWiLs)

196 I cannot read anything else about leftists celebrating this. I will pray for them-that's all I can do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (iVOAv)

197 Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 12:56 PM (zOpu5)

Sound clips from the Concert...

Full auto... rips a clip....

Could be bump fire...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (NgKpN)

198
159 Let's cheerlead for the deaths of people who don't agree with us.

It's no small wonder why the worst among us are always liberals or products of their environment.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (NMCva)

It's not that they don't agree with us. They HATE us.

In all fairness, I feel the same way about them. I'm resigned to the fact that That Day is coming, so let's just get it over with.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (Jcg9Q)

199 3 Either the brother is lying or the killer was extremely private, even from his family.

Posted by: Aunt Luna's phone at October 02, 2017 12:43 PM (eNHDE)

The logical questions is to ask the brother if they're close. I didn't watch the clip so maybe they did, but oftentimes families aren't all that close for a number of reasons. For example, I haven't seen my sister in over 10 years and haven't talked to her in about 3 years. We're just not that close for a number of reasons that I won't elaborate upon here. She could be a major meth producer, a terrorist, or a lesbian married to another lesbian and I'd have no idea. Maybe that's what is going on here.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (4ErVI)

200 First headline I saw this morning claimed he was a "hunter".
Hunter of what?


Posted by: Glenn John at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (LilNs)


Not a hunter of The Most Dangerous Game, hunter of peaceable defenseless hooman beans.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (QLvwG)

201 (((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))
Of course.

Posted by: Iwontsubmit at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (r74Oi)

202 The brother: Shifty eyes, lilting voice, odd hand movements. Way more animated than one might expect, under the circumstances.

There may very well be... as they say, more to the story.
----------------------------------
More like he is in shock
Posted by: It's me donna at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (O2RFr)


Shock would be standing there, dumbfounded, unable to string words together. This guy seemed awfully loose.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (TOk1P)

203 Happy to be back, I am mostly on the ONT.

I post at Insty's some, work has been hectic.
Posted by: sven10077



Welcome back. .

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (gR+IE)

204 Greg Morelli

Soon as I heard it was country music, I felt relief. White people shooting white people isn't terror...it's community outreach.

sick f's

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (fceHP)

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Dancing on rooftops as it were.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (UUvSq)

205 Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (NMCva)

Ah, the military training "link" lets them say all ex-military are dangerous weapons trained psychos and shouldn't be allowed to possess weapons in civilian life!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (gwPgz)

206 I've never been to a concert where the performer was younger than me.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (7HtZB)

207 ISIS or Antifa.



Take your pick.
---

Does it have to be an "or?" Can't it be "and?"

I can see an angry Muslim Antifa guy being urged to do this by both Antifa and ISIS.

So really, it could be an "and."

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (aT+Bx)

208 >>170 Annnd let me take a wild guess that Hayley hasn't attended church since she was Confirmed. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (iVOAv)

What would that have to do with anything? Lots of people don't go to church.

Posted by: Zod at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (Bdeb0)

209
Maybe these were Obama Guns from Fast and Furious.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (r+sAi)

210 189 Question for the horde:
Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

I'm in the same boat over here in the people's loony bin of new york.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (72PAC)

211 Or, and hear me out, we kill them and keep the whole country.

Posted by: Apostate at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (IHGxm)

212 you don't just pick up that kind of weaponry and learn while you are shooting people. This was well planned and executed.

Posted by: Marcus T
____

I don't really understand this point of view. Large crowd, elevated vantage point, multiple auto or semi-auto weapons. I think a poorly trained chimp could make this happen.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (iys0/)

213 r74Oi, piss off.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (eOnMI)

214 How is this idiot a "top CBS Executive?" She looks old enough to be an intern...maybe a new hire.
Either way, she is truly a despicable bigot.
I know a lot of CW fans, and many of them are democrats.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (M+MSn)

215 Greg Morelli

Soon as I heard it was country music, I felt relief. White people shooting white people isn't terror...it's community outreach.

sick f's

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (fceHP)

"Morelli"? Where's he from, Cameroon?

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (7HtZB)

216 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)

I have a guest room in a red county.

Posted by: Infidel at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (w25zc)

217
For someone who's supposedly a "CBS legal executive", she really doesn't seem too bright if she put out that bullshit on Twitter.
Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (O5Q3r)


She doesn't care if she gets fired from CBS because she'll have a well paid job waiting for her at any number of left wing anti-gun groups

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (lKyWE)

218 191 Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (8XRCm)

Happy to be around, this is why the notion of "modern civil war" should terrify people by the way.

This person was not highly trained, and was active in one of the if not THE most quick reaction security city in the United States and he got to play his games for 20 minutes.

Thoughts and prayers to the victims of the shooting spree, their PTSD will not be a fun hill to climb.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (SzZnW)

219 Question for the horde:
Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)




In California too?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (ujg0T)

220 These comments in no way support the idea that the left is using massive non-white unassimilated immigration to change the demographics of the USA (and the west, tbh) so as to get elected.

Whites are .... let me translate that "typical americans" favoring the shit that was 100% normal 20 years ago.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (XhN8Z)

221 148
Vic I don't have twitter either, but you can be linked to specific twitters and not join

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (FKrah)


I watched it on u-tube.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (mpXpK)

222 Meanwhile, a CBS legal executive said the concert-goers got what they deserved because most of them are probably gun-toting Republicans or something.

He's just saying what a lot of other liberals think, but don't say out loud.

Some of these awful incidents occur because there a few individuals out there who are just f**ked up. Gun control won't make a f**ked up person not f**ked up. It will just encourage him to go out and educated himself about explosives.

If the goat f**kers in the mideast can figure out explosive devices, so can our own lunatics.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (+lVUW)

223 Either the brother is lying or the killer was extremely private, even from his family.
---

Look at the quotes from the family of EVERY freaking serial killer.

Family never suspects, neighbors love him.

This guy could have been a sociopath.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (aT+Bx)

224 I was going to make a post earlier this morning wondering when some leftist/MSM would say the victims had it coming (like Texas) but thought it was maybe a little over the top. I see, once again, you always count on the left to exceed your worst expectations.

Posted by: Ripley at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (MxEKc)

225 I'll bet Haley has a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign on her lawn
====================

Haley, proud graduate of Penn and Columbia Law, lives in Brooklyn and works in Manhattan. She's better than the plebian Americans who go to country music festivals.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (LISuA)

226 i think someone posted a pick of him at an anti trump rally. He wasn't in a pussy hat, but looked like he might have one at home. Rot in hell, bastard.

Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (Mjus2)

227 Sadly I am manning the gun counter tonight at work, might see a spike in sales on top of the people buying new bang-sticks for hunting season.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (ygSog)

228 Political dissolution?

We don't have an app for that. We just have to put up the fact that a significant segment of our population is crazy and not to be trusted.

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (3myMJ)

229 Sven, welcome back!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (X6fMO)

230 183
Let's cheerlead for the deaths of people who don't agree with us.
---

Paul Joseph Watson has a post up at infowars.com about leftists celebrating this.
Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (aT+Bx)

Like the fucking Palestinians throwing candy to kids in the streets on 9-11-01. Bloodthirsty fucking ghouls.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

231 215 The demons just come skipping out of the fingers to play when using Twitter, eh? :^(

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (iVOAv)

232 For someone who's supposedly a "CBS legal
executive", she really doesn't seem too bright if she put out that
bullshit on Twitter.


Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (O5Q3r)


For certain values of 'CBS' and 'executive', she is Einstein-level shmart.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 02, 2017 01:09 PM (QLvwG)

233 I don't know how I would act right after finding out my brother just murdered 50 people.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:01 PM (lKyWE)

I would not be speaking to the media at all, that's for sure.

But whatever, we probably shouldn't be hard on him. I can;t even imagine what he's going through
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (wmaTe)


Hard on him? Not without evidence of something.

But if I'm investigating, until I know there's nobody else involved, everyone he knows is treated with suspicion.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:09 PM (TOk1P)

234 230 183
Let's cheerlead for the deaths of people who don't agree with us.
---

Paul Joseph Watson has a post up at infowars.com about leftists celebrating this.
Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (aT+Bx)

Like the fucking Palestinians throwing candy to kids in the streets on 9-11-01. Bloodthirsty fucking ghouls.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

They hand out organic non-GMO locally sourced kale instead.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:09 PM (7HtZB)

235 How difficult would it be to, well, build a fully automatic weapon?

Asking for a friend ?

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at October 02, 2017 01:09 PM (KvRqW)

236 So, I've been listening to the Revolutions podcast and am most of the way through the French Revolution. Holy shit, do some of these groups sound like the damn Jacobins and their more extreme fellow travelers. Seriously. And those episodes that explain (in broad sweeps, of course) the absolute mess that France was in re: the laws being a huge, tangled and incomprehensible patchwork, with carve outs being given to various groups for various reasons, and not one of the Estates willing to give an inch on any of *their* special rights and priveledges and carve outs to try and get the nation to a place where it was stable and solvent.....yeah. As I believe Twain said, history doesn't always repeat but it certainly does rhyme, and I see a lot of rhyming in the modern US politics.

It's pretty frightening, actually,

Posted by: Mandy P. (Not Patinkin), lurking lurker who lurks at October 02, 2017 01:09 PM (Ajsny)

237 given a choice between "I didn't see nuffin" and "huh, I figured the guy was up to something, was I supposed to call The Authorities? my bad" it is definitely a good call to make #1 your first statement

unless you like spending a lot of time in the police station

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (eOnMI)

238 201 (((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))
Of course.
Posted by: Iwontsubmit at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM (r74Oi)




The hyphenated leftist name, yes it gives it away.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (ujg0T)

239 So Haley married a hyphenated asshole and he didn't let her hyphenate onto the front, and be double-dashed?

If that's it, she ought to refuse anal.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (9HRiP)

240 On cue, Elizabeth Warren calls for gun control via Twitter.

/because guns kill people, not people.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (aT+Bx)

241 >>Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post

Fuck that. I'm not ceding land to anyone let alone the assholes on the far left.

If by dissolution ace means we remove them from the country then ok but no way in hell am I about to just allow them to take half the country including almost all the land on both coasts.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (/tuJf)

242 *tosses Sven an Illudium Q-38 Space Modulator*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (ygSog)

243 That CBS scrunt is way over her allotment of names:


Hayley Geftman-Gold (Hayley Lattman)


Da Fuq?!

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:04 PM (Enq6K)



On Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays she's Hayley Lattman. The other days of the week she's Hayley Geftman-Gold

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (493sH)

244 For someone who's supposedly a "CBS legal executive", she really doesn't seem too bright if she put out that bullshit on Twitter.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (O5Q3r)


I believe she put it on her FB page....which proudly lists her job and employer.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (Enq6K)

245 Watching those videos, it's like the entire audience is able to point where the guy is and how long did it take to get law enforcement to get up there? Just hundreds and hundreds of rounds he was pumping.

This is why the liberal lie about letting the "professionals" protect us is such bullshit.

Posted by: Maritime at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (lKmt3)

246 Question for the horde:
Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)



In California too?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (ujg0T)

We'll organize a battalion from Texas to come pick you guys up. Just make sure you have plenty of beer.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (Jcg9Q)

247 239 So Haley married a hyphenated asshole and he didn't let her hyphenate onto the front, and be double-dashed?

If that's it, she ought to refuse anal.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (9HRiP)

No matter how much he begs her to strap it on.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (NWiLs)

248 166 Also, question for the folks more knowledgeable in gunsmithing than I: How difficult would it be to, well, build
a fully automatic weapon? Not something that would be expected to hold
up under prolonged use, just sort of a one-off deal intended for use in
a single incident? Because something like that could be an explanation
for our mystery weapon(s)...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (AM1GF)

You used to be able to buy a sear and a piston rod at gun shows for an M2 to make your M1 carbine a full auto. But the feds were always watching the table that sold those.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (mpXpK)

249 If that's it, she ought to refuse anal.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 01:10 PM (9HRiP)

He'd be f*cking an asshole either way.

(maybe too early for that joke, but I don't care)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (hcyUh)

250 Satan will be steamed when that CBS exec comes xer way. She's doing xer work.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (TFjs1)

251 The CBS exec should lose her job...stat.

Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (Mjus2)

252


For someone who's supposedly a "CBS legal executive"


Maybe she's 'pre-law'.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (oVJmc)

253 Happy to be back, and thanks to Ace and the crew for having me.

Be well and live as happily as you can.

It does blow my mind though because I kind of demanded we be off the strip by 1745 the two days we visited because as I told Ms 10077, "this entire part of the city is one large area for mayhem" and there were terror warnings afoot when we were there.

I'll reiterate this guy is not a veteran in all likelihood, and was untrained able to pin down 31,000 people.

I do not want a violent dissolution even on the days I want a dissolution.....this is why.

Posted by: sven10077 at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (SzZnW)

254 241. Yep. Physical removal.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (fA1SL)

255 (((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))

***

I'm looking at that and just started laughing becuase the confluence of hate, hyphens, and her own parenthesis starts to form it's own foreign language...

(((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))-(Hayley-Lattman))) bin Latman Gold-Geftman


I don't know.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (XhN8Z)

256 I don't hear full auto fire. Maybe bumpfire, but not the rip full auto. Don't hear the rythm of select fire (3rd) burst either. Where is the shotspotter data

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (9TU00)

257 "We'll organize a battalion from Texas to come pick you guys up. Just make sure you have plenty of beer."

They're thirsty in Atlanta
And there's beer in Texarkana
And we'll get it there
No matter what it takes

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (3myMJ)

258 unless you like spending a lot of time in the police station
---

IDK.

If the guy is a white Christian Republican,well, maybe the police would be interested, since he's obviously a right wing terrorist.

However, if he's a Lefty Muslim convert, not interested, thanks for calling.

/just like women in burkas are given a pass at the airport, but an old man in a wheelchair with a colostomy bag is given a body cavity search by the TSA

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:12 PM (aT+Bx)

259 251 The CBS exec should lose her job...stat.
Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (Mjus2)

Yeah. And I should be going home to Kate Upton tonight. Neither scenario is likely.

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (7HtZB)

260 I don't trust women with hyphenated last names or men with hyphenated first names.

Posted by: josephistan


I'm nothing if not consistent. You can trust me in that sense.

Posted by: Sheila Jackson-Lee at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (/qEW2)

261 Happy to be back, I am mostly on the ONT.

I post at Insty's some, work has been hectic.
Posted by: sven10077



Welcome back. .
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (gR+IE)


Sven?

Golly!

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (TOk1P)

262 Sadly I am manning the gun counter tonight at work, might see a spike in sales on top of the people buying new bang-sticks for hunting season.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (ygSog)

Sadly??

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (Jcg9Q)

263 Good to have you back, Sven.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (NWiLs)

264 country fans often are Republican gun toters
so what are rap fans?
Posted by: wth at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM


Peaceful yutes studying in the STEM fields.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (ctuyM)

265 251 The CBS exec should lose her job...stat.

***

nah, she needs to bake me a cake. A straight republican cake.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (XhN8Z)

266 246 Question for the horde:
Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)



In California too?

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:07 PM (ujg0T)

We'll organize a battalion from Texas to come pick you guys up. Just make sure you have plenty of beer.
Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (Jcg9Q)

I have this vision of beer-drinking morons driving pickup trucks from Texas to California, blowing into various towns at full speed, scooping up California moron refugees, handing them a beer, and roaring off to the next address on the list.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (RD7QR)

267 Be well and live as happily as you can.

I shall do neither, but it's a good sentiment regardless.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:14 PM (NWiLs)

268 Greg Morelli

Soon as I heard it was country music, I felt relief. White people shooting white people isn't terror...it's community outreach.

sick f's

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2017 01:05 PM


Who is this Greg Morelli asshole? I've never heard of him until now.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 01:14 PM (INJFV)

269 How difficult would it be to, well, build
a fully automatic weapon? Not something that would be expected to hold
up under prolonged use, just sort of a one-off deal intended for use in
a single incident? Because something like that could be an explanation
for our mystery weapon(s)...

Posted by: Brother Cavil,

_______

Not very difficult, but if you are ever caught in possession of it or say you decided to take it out shooting and LE caught you, you would be in a world of hurt.

When the David Koresh Branch Davidian thing went down that had modified their semi to fully automatic (supposedly)

Posted by: Maritime at October 02, 2017 01:14 PM (lKmt3)

270 231 215 The demons just come skipping out of the fingers to play when using Twitter, eh? :^(
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:08 PM (iVOAv)

I'm guessing her head was rotated to the back while she was tweeting.

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2017 01:14 PM (TFjs1)

271 It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution.

=========

This will make my buddy ThePrimordialOrderedPair happy to hear; he's been advocating this for five years going back to our HotAir commenting days, and the first from whom I heard this idea -- similar to the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia.

Posted by: ShainS at October 02, 2017 01:14 PM (ysII6)

272 Buncha hyphenists in here.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (ul9CR)

273 We'll organize a battalion from Texas to come pick you guys up. Just make sure you have plenty of beer.
Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (Jcg9Q)

I have this vision of beer-drinking morons driving pickup trucks from Texas to California, blowing into various towns at full speed, scooping up California moron refugees, handing them a beer, and roaring off to the next address on the list.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM (RD7QR)

If it comes to that, I'll volunteer to assist.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (NWiLs)

274 Here's some funny-- apparently on election day Hayley set-up a gofundme to pay for the Clinton Victory Celebration block party with all her cool friends. It doesn't say if she gave the money back or not:

https://www.gofundme.com/president-clinton-block-party

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (oVJmc)

275 This is reading as a false flag.

I've never said that about any other shooting. All of them have shown to pretty clearly have individuals that are disturbed in some way (if lone wolf) or have connections to terrorist groups (generally pledging ISIS allegiance). Tragic atrocities, but fairly clear causes.

This? This guy comes out of of nowhere, no political affiliations, no past trouble, no mental issues, amasses a small arsenal and a careful plan to slaughter tens to hundreds of innocents?

"Remember ... no Russian."

Posted by: TheBlackBaron at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (TH89/)

276 hyphenphobes?

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (ul9CR)

277 "SHEPARD SMITH REPORTS: Full coverage of Vegas shooting"

Uh, no thanks....

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (3myMJ)

278 Sadly I am manning the gun counter tonight at work, might see a spike in
sales on top of the people buying new bang-sticks for hunting season.
---

I'm not sad that people are buying weapons legally.

The more normal people are armed, the safer it is for everyone.

/if we confiscate legal guns, only criminals will have guns, and we will NOT be safer.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (aT+Bx)

279 I dare say that Hayley Geftman-Gold (Hayley Lattman) may start to expierence a bunch of pizza deliveries being sent to her house.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (XhN8Z)

280 The CBS exec should lose her job...stat.

Posted by: LASue at October 02, 2017 01:11 PM (Mjus2)


I'd prefer a SWATting, doxxing and in general, making her life so miserable that she ends up under the overpass, shivering in her urine-soaked panties and drinking sterno.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (X6fMO)

281 May God be with the families of those who were lost and may He grant full and speedy recovery to those who were wounded.


Who is the other rocket surgeon in that exchange and why is it public?

You know, I think awful things, no, 'tis true! You know where I think them? In my head. Or maybe, maybe, I tell Bander or text BC or something. But I don't say them in a public forum, not even here, because I am ashamed that I am such an awful person.

Just pointing that out.

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (mf5HN)

282 country fans often are Republican gun toters
so what are rap fans?

At least they'd probably be able to fire back.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (O5Q3r)

283 Yeah. And I should be going home to Kate Upton tonight.
Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM


Dude. Too skinny. Up your game.

Posted by: Sir Mix-A-Lot at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (ctuyM)

284 The gun idiocy from the left on FB is astounding

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (5y11N)

285 Sadly because I will be dealing with nervous sheep wanting to buy a rifle or shotgun. And more than likely on question two, even before we get to the computer, will be denying them the sale because they don't have a current address on their driver's license.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (ygSog)

286 FWIW, there are a lot of lefty country music fans. Here in NJ and NY, there are many concerts with big crowds. There's even a country music fest in NYC every year, I forget the name.

Let the left throw all country music fans in with the deplorables, many it will wake up some of them in the process. Just like I presume the NFL thing has done.

Let them continue to show their true, nasty colors. Even if it hurts us to hear the hatred.

Posted by: Iasonas at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (MI8aK)

287

Neighbor: He was a quiet guy, kept mostly to himself.
Reporter: Do you think he did it?
Neighbor: Oh yeah, killing Republicans was all he ever talked about.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (60v4h)

288 When the David Koresh Branch Davidian thing went down that had modified their semi to fully automatic (supposedly)
Posted by: Maritime at October 02, 2017 01:14 PM (lKmt3)

Emphasis on supposedly. The Feds were so full of shit on Waco I have difficulty believing anything they have to say about it.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (NWiLs)

289 Question for the horde:

Assuming dissolution, I'm stuck behind enemy lines. Anybody willing to take in a conservative refugee? Willing to stand a post

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (jxbfJ)

F, that. They'll get nothing and like it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 01:16 PM (tbOMB)

290 I don't really understand this point of view. Large crowd, elevated vantage point, multiple auto or semi-auto weapons. I think a poorly trained chimp could make this happen.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at October 02, 2017 01:06 PM (iys0/)

I tend to agree.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (wmaTe)

291 Did you know that when you do a GoFundMe and receive at least $600 you get a 1099 from GoFundMe?

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (3myMJ)

292 country fans often are Republican gun toters
so what are rap fans?

At least they'd probably be able to fire back.


poorly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (60v4h)

293 Well, one thing about Twitter and Facebook-Nor people's evil imaginations cannot be hidden.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (iVOAv)

294 brother: Shifty eyes, lilting voice, odd hand movements. Way more animated than one might expect, under the circumstances.

There may very well be... as they say, more to the story.

+++

My reaction to stress and shock is to make a joke. And I can't stop. I pray I'm never in his position, but man, you guys better dvr that

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (9F7aA)

295 Bump fire would sound as fast and not require NFA paperwork.


Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (zOpu5)

Here is a video of Hickok45 demonstrating a bump fire. And yes it does sound like full auto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29evY77S13M

Posted by: Buzzsaw at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (r5KeJ)

296 right, this was a nihilist leaving las vegas loser routine. The venue had no bearing on the guy.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (XhN8Z)

297 The Hayley bitch seems to have removed her FB page

Posted by: CN at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (5gaNQ)

298 country fans often are Republican gun toters
so what are rap fans?

At least they'd probably be able to fire back.


Holdin' it sideways, yo.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (ul9CR)

299 Oh God I just thought I haven't even looked to see the FALSE FLAG CONSPIRACY stuff that is surely going up right this very minute.

It'll be similar to Sandy Hook in that this guy is a MKULTRA drone programmed to carry out the attack in order to take away guns.

We'll also see stills from those videos in which someone is called a crisis actor and matched up with altered photos from previous incidents.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (4ErVI)

300 so what are rap fans?

At least they'd probably be able to fire back.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (O5Q3r)

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Sure, but the weird sideways aiming thing always makes the bullet veer off to the left or right.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:18 PM (UUvSq)

301
I don't really understand this point of view. Large crowd, elevated
vantage point, multiple auto or semi-auto weapons. I think a poorly
trained chimp could make this happen.


It'd be like pelting them with raindrops.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:18 PM (oVJmc)

302 /

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:18 PM (UUvSq)

303 _______

Not very difficult, but if you are ever caught in possession of it or say you decided to take it out shooting and LE caught you, you would be in a world of hurt.

When the David Koresh Branch Davidian thing went down that had modified their semi to fully automatic (supposedly)
Posted by: Maritime

Ruby Ridge was over 200 feds, on account of a sawed off shotgun

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2017 01:18 PM (9TU00)

304 "If by dissolution ace means we remove them from the country then ok but no way in hell am I about to just allow them to take half the country including almost all the land on both coasts."

Just recognize that it means that events like last night would become an everyday thing, from both sides. There's no nonviolent way to do things the way you propose. Their never has been, their never will be.

And maybe we'll come to that - we did once before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:18 PM (k1TUh)

305 That is one vile woman.

Posted by: Fritz at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (imd6s)

306 Neighbor: He was a quiet guy, kept mostly to himself.

Reporter: Do you think he did it?

Neighbor: Oh yeah, killing Republicans was all he ever talked about.
---

Reporter: So he was disgruntled Christian who was motivated by the hateful actions of Trump.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (aT+Bx)

307
ATF takes their Class III rules VERY seriously.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (8XRCm)

308 So is mental illness now a Democrat requirement?

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (TFjs1)

309 I have this vision of beer-drinking morons driving
pickup trucks from Texas to California, blowing into various towns at
full speed, scooping up California moron refugees, handing them a beer Shiner Bock,
and roaring off to the next address on the list.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM


1. FIFY.

2. Since y'all ain't from around here, how did you know we drive pickups?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (ctuyM)

310 Hold your gun sideways, next thing you know you're popping a truck driver under Junior Soprano's protection and getting whacked in your bathtub over it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:20 PM (ul9CR)

311 o what are rap fans?



At least they'd probably be able to fire back.
--

I worked backstage at concerts for years.

Security is INSANELY tight at rap shows.

They generally make the crew of the rap shows go through metal detectors, as well as any "guests" of the band that arrive with them.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:20 PM (aT+Bx)

312 How does a sporadically employed man retire early, own three houses and two airplanes?

News profile quotes neighbors as calling him "aggressively unfriendly" and a professional gambler.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7lbpzys

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (LISuA)

313 Odds of the girlfriend not being a citizen?

Posted by: Simplemind at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (ifaji)

314 Lookup "bump stock" and you will see how someone can fire a semi-auto that fast.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (1ISKN)

315 Sure, but the weird sideways aiming thing always makes the bullet veer off to the left or right.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:18 PM


That's because they came out of the box that way.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (INJFV)

316 Trump hater

Posted by: Simplemind at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (ifaji)

317 ATF takes their Class III rules VERY seriously.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (8XRCm)

---

State secrets on a hard drive in your towel closet seriously, or sea turtle nest seriously?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (UUvSq)

318 On cue, Elizabeth Warren calls for gun control via Twitter.

/because guns kill people, not people.

Posted by: shibumi


Even tomahawks make me nervous.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (/qEW2)

319 The Hayley bitch seems to have removed her FB page

TOO LATE!!!

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (O5Q3r)

320 Has Hayley landed yet ??

Posted by: McCool at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (KvRqW)

321 122
Vegas was a horrible incident and well know more soon enough.

The gun grabbers, though, should consider the magnitude of this
violence has been ongoing to the tune of 10X over in Shitcago since the
first of the year.

Posted by: Derptastic at October 02, 2017 12:57 PM (DB16e)

Good point to turn the racism tables on them. Why the freakout when white people get killed?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (tbOMB)

322 Bump fire would sound as fast and not require NFA paperwork.

Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 01:03 PM (zOpu5)


Bump fire stock is the most likely IMO. If he was a drug runner he could have accessed the real thing illegally. He might have a class 3 but that seems unlikely.

He could have modified a semi auto but that is not really easy and would likely have required some milling equipment and knowledge.

It would also give the gun controllers a channel to go after short of a semi autos if the establishment is ready to make this push.

Posted by: Keith at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (USf3s)

323 ^Hayley^ ((Geftman)-(Gold))-(^Hayley^ *Lattman*)

something like that


^Hayley^ - she-devil signifier

*Lattman* - cat breeder

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (XhN8Z)

324 News profile quotes neighbors as calling him "aggressively unfriendly" and a professional gambler.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7lbpzys
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (LISuA)


I always wonder what my neighbors would say about me if a reporter ever asked them. "Aggressively unfriendly" is a new one, but I like it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)

325 State secrets on a hard drive in your towel closet seriously, or sea turtle nest seriously?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (UUvSq)

-----

Sea turtle.

VERY Sea turtle.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (8XRCm)

326 They generally make the crew of the rap shows go
through metal detectors, as well as any "guests" of the band that arrive
with them.
Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:20 PM (aT+Bx)

Rapper Lil Wayne refused his own concert's security check over the weekend and canceled the whole thing.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (UBzPO)

327 *waves to Sven*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (PY9jH)

328 280 I'd prefer a SWATting, doxxing and in general, making her life so miserable that she ends up under the overpass, shivering in her urine-soaked panties and drinking sterno.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (X6fMO)

Finally, somebody has come around to wanting the same end results for these people that I do.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (WDCYi)

329 Boarding begins in 40 minutes. Declared firearm in checked bag, all OK with TSA.

If the bag-buster downstairs has a hyphenated name, I'm fucked.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (9HRiP)

330
what are rap fans?

Parolees mostly

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (lKyWE)

331 How does a sporadically employed man retire early, own three houses and two airplanes?

News profile quotes neighbors as calling him "aggressively unfriendly" and a professional gambler.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7lbpzys

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (LISuA)

Folks, I doubt these are LearJets the guy owned. I haven't seen any description, but my guess is a couple of puddle jumpers. Single engine props.

You don't need to be a billionaire to pull that off.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (Jcg9Q)

332 309 I have this vision of beer-drinking morons driving
pickup trucks from Texas to California, blowing into various towns at
full speed, scooping up California moron refugees, handing them a beer Shiner Bock,
and roaring off to the next address on the list.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:13 PM

1. FIFY.

2. Since y'all ain't from around here, how did you know we drive pickups?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 02, 2017 01:19 PM (ctuyM)

Got to have someplace to put the beer!

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (RD7QR)

333 >>>My reaction to stress and shock is to make a joke. And I can't stop. I pray I'm never in his position, but man, you guys better dvr that

The interviews on Restrepo cover the range of reactions. There is no set response.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (lqd9d)

334 According to heyjackass.com, to date, 496 shooting homicides in Chicago in 2017.

So, this horror clocks in as about one month of Chicago daily fatal shootings (around 2 per day).

Just for perspective.


Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (QDnY+)

335 It'll be similar to Sandy Hook in that this guy is a MKULTRA drone programmed to carry out the attack in order to take away guns.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (4ErVI)



MASSIVELY INAPPROPRIATE JOKE ALERT

MASSIVELY INAPPROPRIATE JOKE ALERT

THIS IS YOUR WARNING THAT I'M EVEN MORE AWFUL OF A HUMAN BEING THAN YOU THOUGHT!

Wow, Netflix is taking the Stranger Things 2 promo a bit too far, don't you think?


I'll just want here for my banning.

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (mf5HN)

336 Aggressively unfriendly" is a new one, but I like it.

Yes, it is sort of darkly humorous

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (iVOAv)

337 Has Hayley landed yet ??
Posted by: McCool at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (KvRqW)


Like a comet.

We won't likely see her again for another... oh, 78 years or so.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (TOk1P)

338 From 4chan:

Alex Jones live just now on his show got a message from one of people
from the hostage rescue team that confronted the guy. He said the FBI
killed him and the man had pro antifa rhetoric all over his room. He
reported thus not even 15 minutes ago. Also had images of his wife in
the middle East.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (aT+Bx)

339 Who is the other rocket surgeon in that exchange and why is it public?

You know, I think awful things, no, 'tis true! You know where I think them? In my head. Or maybe, maybe, I tell Bander or text BC or something. But I don't say them in a public forum, not even here, because I am ashamed that I am such an awful person.

Just pointing that out.


My wife is a public school teacher. She's not as political as me or as conservative as me. Even though her Facebook account privacy protections are pretty locked down, she says zero political things online.

She's well aware that as a conservative-leaning person in a profession dominated by leftists and an area dominated by leftists she'd have serious consequences for expressing even mild opinions.

And it pisses me off to no end that people like this Geftman-Gold are out there with NONE of the fear of consequences we have arrayed against us.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (jhqr1)

340 Full auto can be anything from around 350 to well over a thousand rounds per minute. M3 greasegun on the low end the German WWII machine guns on the high end among others. 500-600 is the normal range.

Bumpfire gets into the same range as normal full auto. It became a thing because of the prices for real full auto guns going through the roof due to the ATF closing the book on new full auto weapons being registered in the 1980s. This made the supply limited and prices zoomed up.

That's legal ownership. In the third world getting a full auto AK is cheap, under $100 I think, if you had the connections. With the shooter owning his own planes his getting weapons south of the border is not out of the question.

Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (zOpu5)

341 The guy in the anti-Trump video...there are a lot of people who look like that. Very inconclusive.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 02, 2017 01:00 PM (l9m7l)

Which is why, in the video I watched, the narrator was asking watchers to try to find better-quality imagery of the same event. Not unreasonable at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (O848g)

342 Honestly, you need a full auto flamethrower to burn the army of straw men.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (NMCva)

343 State secrets on a hard drive in your towel closet seriously, or sea turtle nest seriously?



They shot & killed Randy Weavers wife over a sawed off shotgun barrel.

Sea turtle nest seriously.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (gR+IE)

344 Alex Jones? Seriously?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (UBzPO)

345 324 News profile quotes neighbors as calling him "aggressively unfriendly" and a professional gambler.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7lbpzys
Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (LISuA)


I always wonder what my neighbors would say about me if a reporter ever asked them. "Aggressively unfriendly" is a new one, but I like it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)

I'm thinking I would be something along the lines of "that satanic hell-monkey" or something.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (RD7QR)

346 338 From 4chan:

Alex Jones live just now on his show got a message from one of people
from the hostage rescue team that confronted the guy. He said the FBI
killed him and the man had pro antifa rhetoric all over his room. He
reported thus not even 15 minutes ago. Also had images of his wife in
the middle East.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (aT+Bx)

I've never listened to or read Alex Jones. Have heard...interesting things.

Is there any chance this is reliable?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (72PAC)

347 And right on cue, over at The New Yorker, some douchecanoe named Adam Gopnik headlines his rant "After Las Vegas, There Can be No Truce With The Second Amendment".

Fukc that guy, in particular.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (p+Wdc)

348 23
Multiple weapons. Fired til dry then picked up another.

Why not a singe weapon with multiple mags?

Did not know how or was not confident in his ability to reload?

Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at October 02, 2017 12:47 PM (NrE3O)
----------------------------------------

Barrels get extremely hot. Fire enough rounds and they can get white hot. Used to run an M-60 machine gun range back in the day.

Posted by: Javems at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (yOqwj)

349
Folks, I doubt these are LearJets the guy owned. I haven't seen any description, but my guess is a couple of puddle jumpers. Single engine props.

You don't need to be a billionaire to pull that off.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (Jcg9Q)

---

Yeah, I've seen a few planes locally for the price of a new Accord. Not a poor man's hobby, but a very attainable way to pass your time if that's your thing.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (UUvSq)

350 325 State secrets on a hard drive in your towel closet seriously, or sea turtle nest seriously?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (UUvSq)

-----

Sea turtle.

VERY Sea turtle.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (8XRCm)

Definitely sea turtle. Full sea turtle nest serious. Those sumbitches are just champing at the bit to pop someone for any infraction they can find.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (NWiLs)

351 I'll bet Haley has a "Hate Has No Home Here" sign on her lawn. Because...tolerance

-
She survived at CBS News because she was swimming in a sea of hatred.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (Nwg0u)

352 News profile quotes neighbors as calling him "aggressively unfriendly" and a professional gambler.

By tomorrow you'll know how many hairs this guy had on his ass.

Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (O5Q3r)

353
It'll be similar to Sandy Hook in that this guy is a MKULTRA drone
programmed to carry out the attack in order to take away guns.
--

From a thread at 4chan:

Hmmmmmm it's almost like hmmmmmm almost like the hmmmmm they shot a 60
year old pedophile in his room and hmmmmmm fired out his window at a
concert with military grade accuracy and hmmmmm from several different
floors and then conveniently found the "culprit" with a gunshot wound to
the head and no motive hmmmmm.. But that would imply that the deep
state exists and we all know that it does not..

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (aT+Bx)

354 From 4chan:

Alex Jones blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah blahblahblah blahblah blahblahblahblahblah blahblahblahblah

blahblahblahblahblah. blah

blah


---------


Fixed.

For accuracy.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (8XRCm)

355 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:17 PM (wmaTe)

The image I have is of the classic shooting fish in a barrel. Not much skill required, no matter where you aim you are likely to inflict damage, and since you're shooting downwards there's not even a modicum of aiming skill required!

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 02, 2017 01:25 PM (gwPgz)

356 "Holy shit, do some of these groups sound like the damn Jacobins and their more extreme fellow travelers."

I've been saying for years that progs are Jacobins. There's nothing new under the sun.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (398bZ)

357 The type of victims or numbers of victims have nothing to do with it. The evil actions of thousands of criminals who murder people with firearms each year have zero effect on the rights of millions of law-abiding citizens. So, no, CBS twat, nothing will ever change for me.

But thanks for letting us know that the lives of innocent people are not why you fight for gun control. I mean, we already knew, but it was nice of you to confirm it.

Posted by: CPT11A at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (gY9Ct)

358 255 (((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))-(Hayley-Lattman))) bin Latman Gold-Geftman

I don't know.


There's some mismatched parentheses there somewhere.

Posted by: LISPinator at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (sGtp+)

359 Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Is The Son Of A Man Once On The FBIs Most Wanted List

Weasel Zippers

Interesting

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (5y11N)

360 the venue cannot be ignored.

as any of the venues that are used by planned murders

and on top of that we have cbs execs feeling ok about murder being OK if the right people are murdered.

and I saw those same type of comments on NJ news feed and Fox's news feeds ..
along with a mulititude of conspiracies.

so.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (FKrah)

361 If he was a successful professional gambler, then the casinos will have a file on him.

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (9TU00)

362 I need to bail, the previously mentioned work thing is in the offering.

Keep the victims and their families in your prayers. And pray even harder that those like Hayley will awaken to the true evil much like when Saul was knocked off his ass.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (ygSog)

363 I wouldn't take a dump on Alex Jones.

The gunshot was self inflicted.

The companion or whatever she is had pics on her Twitter of her visiting family in Dubai.

I would love to see the identity of the SRT guy.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (NMCva)

364 Folks, I doubt these are LearJets the guy owned. I haven't seen any description, but my guess is a couple of puddle jumpers. Single engine props.

You don't need to be a billionaire to pull that off.


Maintenance on even a puddle jumper gets expensive quick.

It's like horses. Sure, you can own one or two and not be mega-rich. But the cost curve goes up steeply the more you're involved in it.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (jhqr1)

365 This is reading as a false flag.

I've never said that about any other shooting. All of them have shown to pretty clearly have individuals that are disturbed in some way (if lone wolf) or have connections to terrorist groups (generally pledging ISIS allegiance). Tragic atrocities, but fairly clear causes.

This? This guy comes out of of nowhere, no political affiliations, no past trouble, no mental issues, amasses a small arsenal and a careful plan to slaughter tens to hundreds of innocents?

"Remember ... no Russian."
Posted by: TheBlackBaron at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (TH89/)


I have a feeling the girlfriend will get us clues.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (fceHP)

366 I mean, I don't think paddock cared about what music was being played

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (XhN8Z)

367 Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (aT+Bx)

O_O

Wonder if there's anything to that or it's some madeup BS....?

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (3myMJ)

368 I don't really buy into the "gambler snaps" angle. This just seems really elaborately planned and the victims have zero association with gambling.

If he say shot up a casino floor and hit a bunch of employees, that would make more sense for a motive.

Posted by: Maritime at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (lKmt3)

369
Is there any chance this is reliable?
--

IDK.

Jones is unreliable.

MSM is unreliable.

Jones COULD be right.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:27 PM (aT+Bx)

370 dad was on the most wanted list?

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (XhN8Z)

371 It's pretty damned disgusting to realize that people in this country who disagree with you politically, actively, enthusiastically, and vocally cheer for your death in a thousand horrifying ways.

And the mainstream media is their voice.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (PY9jH)

372 They wouldn't do anything when children were murdered...

Is he talking about abortion?




Posted by: Mostly Harmless Lurker in you backyard at night at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (1L9V9)

373 And right on cue, over at The New Yorker, some douchecanoe named Adam Gopnik headlines his rant "After Las Vegas, There Can be No Truce With The Second Amendment".

Fukc that guy, in particular.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (p+Wdc)



I fought the Second Amendment and the Second Amendment won...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (493sH)

374 it's unfortunate we can trust alex jones as much as we can trust cbs. abc, msdnc,

oh well.

Posted by: willow at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (FKrah)

375 348 Why not a singe weapon with multiple mags?

----------------------------------------

Barrels get extremely hot. Fire enough rounds and they can get white hot.


Which would make it a singe weapon, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (v3pYe)

376 Honestly, you need a full auto flamethrower to burn the army of straw men.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (NMCva)


I'm not lending any of you my full auto flamethrower.

Okay, maybe willow. And Jane. And bluebell. And MWR. And Eris.

Okay, I'm lending the 'Ettes my full autoflamethrower but that's it!

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (mf5HN)

377 >>Just recognize that it means that events like last night would become an everyday thing, from both sides. There's no nonviolent way to do things the way you propose. Their never has been, their never will be.

The truth is no matter how easy it is to talk about it the only way there would ever be a "dissolution" of this country is through a violent revolution. Nobody is just giving up their homes that in some cases have been in families for generations.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (/tuJf)

378 Alex Jones live just now on his show got a message from one of people
from the hostage rescue team that confronted the guy. He said the FBI
killed him and the man had pro antifa rhetoric all over his room. He
reported thus not even 15 minutes ago. Also had images of his wife in
the middle East.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (aT+Bx)

Unfortunately, alex jones is also, well, kind of nuts and has been known to be, how can I put this kindly -- full of shit.

So I'll take that with an even bigger grain of salt than usual.

That being said, would not surprise me one bit if he was just punchin' Nazis with bullets.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (wmaTe)

379 368 I don't really buy into the "gambler snaps" angle. This just seems really elaborately planned and the victims have zero association with gambling.

If he say shot up a casino floor and hit a bunch of employees, that would make more sense for a motive.

***

this is a good point.

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (XhN8Z)

380
Re: this murderer having lots of $$

I'll bet: NOT ANYMORE

He might've had some $$ in his life, but was probably leveraged to the maximum.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:29 PM (f7hW7)

381 My point was not that he needed extensive trading. But he knew all the fundamentals.

I only made that point because the brother tried to say he "wasn't a gun guy" whatever that means.

The brother, clearly didn't know his brother.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:29 PM (NMCva)

382 Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Is The Son Of A Man Once On The FBIs Most Wanted List


Woah. This shit just keeps getting weirder.

Confidence man, among other things. And sonny boy was a gambler.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:29 PM (ul9CR)

383 Also, question for the folks more knowledgeable in gunsmithing than I: How difficult would it be to, well, build
a fully automatic weapon? Not something that would be expected to hold
up under prolonged use, just sort of a one-off deal intended for use in
a single incident? Because something like that could be an explanation
for our mystery weapon(s)...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (AM1GF)

Rather elementary for someone with a modicum of mechanical skill, a little determination, a file and a hack saw, and a willingness to risk federal penitentiary.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 01:29 PM (tbOMB)

384 >>And right on cue, over at The New Yorker, some douchecanoe named Adam
Gopnik headlines his rant "After Las Vegas, There Can be No Truce With
The Second Amendment".




Swear they have these all written and ready to go. Vox is pushing the 'more murders by whote domestic terrorists than muslims' BS that always, always inexplicably omits 9/11. There is not justification for this. None.

And can we lay some blame for the callous responses on Hillary "half the country are irredeemable deplorables" Clinton?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (W+vEI)

385 right? "hey guys, there was some guy who killed people with guns, why don't you disarm to become better targets?"

most folks be like, "hmmm, I'd like to have a gun just in case"

Posted by: Bob Loblaw at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (XhN8Z)

386 "How difficult would it be to, well, build
a fully automatic weapon?"

Here in East Texas, back before 9/11 made everyone touchy about everything, there was a country hiway through the piney woods you could take out of Palestine towards Elkhart, as i recall. About 7 miles out in the country there was a couple of trailer homes with a few 4 x 4 's up a little hill, with a gate that said "Earle's Gun Shop" or something. Above it was a hand lettered sign on plywood, hanging kind of crooked, that read "WE SPECCIALIZE IN FULL AUTOMATIC CONVERSIONS"

Just a couple of country boys plyin' their trade.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (k1TUh)

387
Folks, I doubt these are LearJets the guy owned. I haven't seen any description, but my guess is a couple of puddle jumpers. Single engine props. You don't need to be a billionaire to pull that off.


Airplanes are like boats.Buying them is the cheap part owning them is what gets expensive

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (lKyWE)

388
Meanwhile, a CBS legal executive said the concert-goers got what they deserved because most of them are probably gun-toting Republicans or something.

This alt-left evil dishrag supports my early theory that this guy was an alt-left wingnut sending a message to a large group of gun-lovers.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (f7hW7)

389 there any chance this is reliable?

+++

You have to use Russian rules for the media these days. What they're not saying is more important, who they discredit is more accurate, what politicians dismiss are the facts.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (9F7aA)

390 ^Hayley^ ((Geftman)-(Gold))-(^Hayley^ *Lattman*)

I was told there would be no algebra on this blog.

Posted by: rickl at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (xjiRE)

391
Has the MFM found his Confederate flag and MAGA hat yet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (493sH)

392 Alex Jones is certifiable, but I will give him up twinkles for his campaign against Bill Clinton last year having people in the crowd yelling "you are a rapist" at the most opportune times

Posted by: Rick in SK at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (FZYNt)

393 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)

I'm thinking I would be something along the lines of "that satanic hell-monkey" or something.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (RD7QR)

My neighbors that have shown up unannounced would be entirely accurate but f they called me the crazy lady holding a shotgun.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (Ri/rl)

394 358 255 (((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))-(Hayley-Lattman))) bin Latman Gold-Geftman

I don't know.

There's some mismatched parentheses there somewhere.
Posted by: LISPinator at October 02, 2017 01:26 PM (sGtp+)

I think it would be (((Hayley Geftman-Gold)))-(((Hayley-Lattman))) (((bin Latman Gold-Geftman)))

Or (((Hayley Geftman-Gold/Hayley-Lattman/bin Latman Gold-Geftman))) for the sake of parenthesis conservation.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (NWiLs)

395 Unfortunately, alex jones is also, well, kind of nuts and has been known to be, how can I put this kindly -- full of shit.
--

I don't disagree.

But that doesn't mean that he can't possibly be right in this case.

Also... I will give Alex Jones a bit of an edge, simply because he doesn't seem to want me to die, while the MSM would be ecstatic if all of us were eliminated in a mass shooting.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (aT+Bx)

396 http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7lbpzys

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at October 02, 2017 01:21 PM (LISuA)


So the only employment they can find on Paddock is with Lockheed Martin for 3 years...in the 80's?!


Damn...must of paid really well to have 2 planes.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (Enq6K)

397 I always wonder what my neighbors would say about me if a reporter ever asked them. "Aggressively unfriendly" is a new one, but I like it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)

I'm thinking I would be something along the lines of "that satanic hell-monkey" or something.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (RD7QR)


I think "fat, drunk asshole" would suit me quite nicely.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (X6fMO)

398 @ 331 countryboy

It's expensive to maintain even single engine airplanes.

Initial reports say the nujob has a couple of houses, a couple of airplanes and no visible means of support.

Renting a hotel room on the Strip isn't cheap, nor is ammunition and firearms.

So, legitimate questions is: where did the money for all this come from?

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (qC1Sy)

399 I'm leaning "no" on the Alex Jones stuff.

First, he wasn't a Muslim, then he was, then he wasn't, then he was again.

Now let's add in Pedophile when nothing of the sort had been said before.

Now let's add that he's just the fall-guy, and it was really the feds what did the shooting.

This is why people don't listen to Alex Jones. Give it another hours and Paddock will be one of the Lizard People, hybridized with the Greys.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (WDCYi)

400 "How difficult would it be to, well, build
a fully automatic weapon?"

Here in East Texas, back before 9/11 made everyone touchy about everything, there was a country hiway through the piney woods you could take out of Palestine towards Elkhart, as i recall. About 7 miles out in the country there was a couple of trailer homes with a few 4 x 4 's up a little hill, with a gate that said "Earle's Gun Shop" or something. Above it was a hand lettered sign on plywood, hanging kind of crooked, that read "WE SPECCIALIZE IN FULL AUTOMATIC CONVERSIONS"

Just a couple of country boys plyin' their trade.
Posted by: Tom Servo



With their paychecks from the ATF being direct deposited every payday.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (gR+IE)

401 381. Tom Regan - 'nobody knows anybody. Not that well.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. All Honor & Glory to Kekistan! at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (fA1SL)

402 >>Confidence man, among other things. And sonny boy was a gambler.

Shooter had numerous guns, 2 planes, lots of cash, spotty resume...someone call Hollywood and see if Tom Cruise can make a movie out of this set-up! Oh, wait...

Posted by: Lizzy at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (W+vEI)

403
Eric Paddock is a big liar, with his fake crocodile tears.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (f7hW7)

404 I'm sure some percentage of Alex Jones' lunatic horseshit is accurate.

I'm pretty sure this part isn't.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (oVJmc)

405 David French is the one that's weird.



He is one weird, weird, weird dude.

Posted by: dagny at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (6oU5/)

406 376 Honestly, you need a full auto flamethrower to burn the army of straw men.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (NMCva)

I'm not lending any of you my full auto flamethrower.

Okay, maybe willow. And Jane. And bluebell. And MWR. And Eris.

Okay, I'm lending the 'Ettes my full autoflamethrower but that's it!
Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (mf5HN)

And this ashtray. And this paddle-ball game.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (NWiLs)

407 @378 - FBI HRT was in Vegas? Yeah, no.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (x7Xk5)

408
Eric Paddock is LYING because he and his brother AGREE politically, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (f7hW7)

409 AtC - If you get in the mood for a cheerful distraction distraction, the history of Cheerwine: http://tinyurl.com/yc9h5onl

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (58eZn)

410 Ahem. We don't hybridize with those filthy egg-layers.

Posted by: The Greys at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (ul9CR)

411 Test

Posted by: Hope Solo at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (8Zq2n)

412 I'm thinking I would be something along the lines of "that satanic hell-monkey" or something.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (RD7QR)

And that would be the neighbor who liked me, most likely.

"He was alright -- kept to himself. Kind of a Satantic Hell-Monkey if you catch my drift."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (wmaTe)

413 Fox said he had worked for a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin in the 80's. Guy in the you tube video was wearing a NASA shirt. It's thin gruel. Who knows at this point I just thought I'd mention it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (INJFV)

414
Eric Paddock's performance today reeks of CYA.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (f7hW7)

415 Las Vegas Shooter Stephen Paddock Is The Son Of A Man Once On The FBIs Most Wanted List
---

For some reason, this situation really reminds me of McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing.

There's a book about it that puts out a good case that Saddam was behind it and Clinton knew it, but didn't want to rock the boat.

I have the same kind of feeling here.

/or maybe it's just a crazy antfi/bernie supporter.

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (aT+Bx)

416

Reasing the last 5 hours and there is a lot of bad info kicking around. A few thoughts:

1. No training necessary for a simple area attack. 22,000 is a crowd target. Average 500 meters is very easily in area attack range for a 5.56 weapon - point and shoot.

2. Thus far no evidence of any full auto fire. Yes I listened to the tapes. I have also been in attacks in urban areas and a single shot can produce three or four echos each... gets very confusing when entire mags are unloaded.

3. Could it be a full auto, yes, they can with difficulty be purchased legally. They can with the work of a gifted machinist sometimes be produced, although rimfire is a lot easier than centerfire. Easier by far, and for the same $ just to buy one from Mexico.

4. Other possibilities include a bump fire or actuator unit. These can be as simple as a heavy duty rubber band (or really fat belly) but do need practice.

5. It is quite easy to dump 40-60 rounds per minute area fire out of any readily available mag/box/belt semi auto with nil skills.

6. 10 rifles? Then definitely no training as a trained individual doing this would take a primary and a spare and perhaps a scoped precision unit to start the show with, no more.

7. 15 loaded mags and a taken down AR fit in a roll-aboard easily.

8. 'Silencers' don't, although subsonic rounds can come essentially silent in some calibers. On long guns they suppress and disperse making it harder to locate the firing source as well as reduce muzzle flash and likelihood of setting nearby stuff on fire. They do not degrade the accuracy of firearms built for their use although they can change the point of aim/impact.

9. Commercial fire doors such as hotel room doors are by design difficult to get into. In a fire/rescue situation where no one is pumping rounds through the surrounding walls at you there are several options. If doing an opposed entry then explosive breaching followed by a couple of flash-bangs, or frags in a military setting, and dynamic entry would be the norm. This is not something casino security is or should be doing.

10. '2 shooting platform positions.' He knocked out 2 windows in an obvious and logical fashion. Highrise windows are designed to a) not fall off in severe storms and b) not get knocked out from inside by suicides and drunks. A window punch to break integrity and a hammer will do the rest easily. No body is gonna notice 32 floors up with a concert going on.

11. Renting the room and targeting the concert speaks to serious premeditation and intent. Insanity does not necessarily degrade the ability to plan and conduct an operation. The target concert may or may not speak to motive. Concerts are held there all the time. Investigation will no doubt uncover the motivation. Whether we ever learn the truth is another story.

12. Th MFM are foul vile horrors, and need to be opposed in public, in the courts and in our homes churches clubs and schools at every turn. They HATE us, the HATE everything we believe in, and the LITERALLY wish us dead. Never forget.

13. See 12.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (t3kPl)

417 396 So the only employment they can find on Paddock is with Lockheed Martin for 3 years...in the 80's?!


Damn...must of paid really well to have 2 planes.
Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (Enq6K)

Should point out that Lockheed-Martin does more than you think you would, including some very, VERY low-wage jobs.

Where I live, they bought the contract to scan and processs child support payment documents back in 2000. As a full-time job, it only paid $7.00 an hour.

Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (WDCYi)

418 136 80 That CBS scrunt needs to lose her job. Bitch.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 12:53 PM (INJFV)



Anyone out there terminally ill? Before you go hunt for OJ, hunt this scrunt down.

Posted by: Curmudgeon - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 12:59 PM (ujg0T)

++++

While I do hope she loses her job, I sincerely hope that nobody takes your advice to hunt her down and kill her.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (FUu/Z)

419 Airplanes are like boats.Buying them is the cheap part owning them is what gets expensive

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:30 PM (lKyWE)

---

The best piece of car advice I've ever gotten:

There's nothing more expensive than a cheap Jaguar.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (UUvSq)

420 301 It'd be like pelting them with raindrops.

And he had a whole life's worth of built-in male physics practice privilege.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (sGtp+)

421 Lefty teacher: "Pray only Trumptards died!"

Posted by: Meremortal looking at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (3myMJ)

422 "SHEPARD SMITH REPORTS: Full coverage of Vegas shooting"

-
They're eating people in the streets!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (Nwg0u)

423 It's pretty damned disgusting to realize that people in this country who disagree with you politically, actively, enthusiastically, and vocally cheer for your death in a thousand horrifying ways.

And the mainstream media is their voice.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (PY9jH)


Since 11/8 there have been a large number of people acting like fucking idiots 24/7 with nobody telling them "you need to get a grip starting now". And as you said, the MFM, particularly the dickweed cable channels, have been fueling their rage as if this is sane and productive behavior. Thank God DJT is smart enough to reject the advice of shitheads like Rove to curl up in a fetal ball.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (y7DUB)

424 Do the parenthesis mean "joo" or do they mean parody "joo" or do they mean parody of a parody of "joo"?

Help

Posted by: dagny at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (6oU5/)

425 Alex Jones live just now on his show got a message from one of people from the hostage rescue team that confronted the guy. He said the FBI killed him and the man had pro antifa rhetoric all over his room. He
reported thus not even 15 minutes ago. Also had images of his wife in the middle East.


Is it possible this is true? Sure, I guess.

But think about it. If Jones got this info "live" during a broadcast, what chance is there Jones or his people vetted the source of the report? I'd say unless they already had a relationship with the source, practically zero. So what you really have is some rando feeding news to a guy who is known to shoot from the hip.

Again, it's possible it's true, but not likely.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (jhqr1)

426
Gambling debts is no reason to take out other people.

Forget that theory.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (f7hW7)

427 Every nut that grabs a gun is apparently reason for every liberal to repeal the Second Amendment.

Context doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if he may have been doing it too advance their liberal goals. Or he was just nuts.

We should simply repeal the Second Amendment and Un-invent guns. Because a world without guns would be a better place.

We could go back to killing each other with knives and spears. Or the the preferred method, blunt force.

I mean, imagine what a better world it would be if only the government had guns.

Jackasses.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (NMCva)

428 BTW... shooter worked for Goddard in the 90's, subcontracted by NASA

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506964479020.png

/image safe for work

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (aT+Bx)

429
Renting a hotel room on the Strip isn't cheap, nor is ammunition and firearms.

So, legitimate questions is: where did the money for all this come from?

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (qC1Sy)

I ain't rich by any means.

I rented a room two blocks off the Strip last weekend.

I had 10 guns with me.

Also had about 5k rounds of ammo.

It ain't hard. Just takes a little time.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (Jcg9Q)

430 Why not a singe weapon with multiple mags?

----------------------------------------

Barrels get extremely hot. Fire enough rounds and they can get white hot.

Which would make it a singe weapon, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Anachronda



Actually, that would make it a branding weapon.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (gR+IE)

431 Also, question for the folks more knowledgeable in gunsmithing than I: How difficult would it be to, well, build
a fully automatic weapon? Not something that would be expected to hold
up under prolonged use, just sort of a one-off deal intended for use in
a single incident? Because something like that could be an explanation
for our mystery weapon(s)...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine at October 02, 2017 01:02 PM (AM1GF)

Rather elementary for someone with a modicum of mechanical skill, a little determination, a file and a hack saw, and a willingness to risk federal penitentiary.
.
.
.
That plus you need to take it someplace to function test your work. I guess the desert would work but you never know who is around.

The more audio I hear the more convniced these were bump fire stocks. There are more than a few erratic rates of fire.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (Vz9Up)

432 One thing that we do know about the shooter: he had a lot of money. He owned two airplanes. Airplanes basically make holes in the air into which you dump wheel barrows full of cash. He was an instrument rated pilot. Allegedly his condo cost $365,000.

Posted by: Clearly at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (sopsN)

433 Aggressively unfriendly


I prefer just being 'that crazy old man with all the guns'.

It keeps the yougun's on their toes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (60v4h)

434 I don't know why we're focusing on the guy they found in the hotel room, shooting everyone.

WidespreadPepe already cracked the case at 3 am.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (HYDPz)

435 424 Do the parenthesis mean "joo" or do they mean parody "joo" or do they mean parody of a parody of "joo"?

Yes.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (ul9CR)

436 407 @378 - FBI HRT was in Vegas? Yeah, no.

Posted by: blaster at October 02, 2017 01:32 PM (x7Xk5)

Well, apparently, someone exploded the door.

I don't know about Vegas, but I don't think my town keeps C4 explosives hanging around.

Maybe they do, I don't know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (wmaTe)

437 416 4. Other possibilities include a bump fire or actuator unit. These can be as simple as a heavy duty rubber band (or really fat belly) but do need practice.

I'm not going to have to register this thing, am I?

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (sGtp+)

438 I ain't rich by any means.

I rented a room two blocks off the Strip last weekend.

I had 10 guns with me.

Also had about 5k rounds of ammo.

It ain't hard. Just takes a little time.
Posted by: Country Boy



Have you worked any time since the 80s?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (gR+IE)

439 Eric Paddock's performance today reeks of CYA.


He's a good boy, going to college in the fall, on his way to choir practice, aspiring rapper, dindu nuffin.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (oVJmc)

440 All sorts of troubles trying to comment sigh

Posted by: Hope Solo at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (8Zq2n)

441 So the only employment they can find on Paddock is with Lockheed Martin for 3 years...in the 80's?!


Damn...must of paid really well to have 2 planes.
Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (Enq6K)

He worked for Lockheed, so he probably stole them one piece at a time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=060A15ELz00

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (7HtZB)

442 Renting a hotel room on the Strip isn't cheap, nor is ammunition and firearms.

So, legitimate questions is: where did the money for all this come from?

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (qC1Sy)

---

Credit cards are easy to get, easy to use, and easy to not care about when you don't intend to pay the bill.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (UUvSq)

443 This is why people don't listen to Alex Jones. Give it another hours and Paddock will be one of the Lizard People, hybridized with the Greys.
Posted by: Hikaru at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (WDCYi)

Stephen Lizard-Grey

Posted by: josephistan at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (7HtZB)

444 I mentioned it all way above. Daily Mail reports that daddy was a bank robber and was on the FBI Top Ten while he was an escaped fugitive. Guy was also diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic (the dad, not the suspect).

And that brother is full of shit. The weird way we was laughing, how he immediately walked back his "brother was not a gun-nut" statement. "Well, he had a few guns, but they were all hand guns. Okay, maybe he had one long gun..." Uh huh. Tell us another one.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (toi7g)

445 428 BTW... shooter worked for Goddard in the 90's, subcontracted by NASA

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506964479020.png

/image safe for work
Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (aT+Bx)

Hmm. Then quit and became a professional gambler? Eh? Man of mystery, this one.

Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (RD7QR)

446
Actually, no, airplanes are extremely expensive and hold their value extremely well, whereas boats are terrible for holding their value.

An airworthy 1975 single engine Cessna 172 today is almost worth it's value brand new.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (f7hW7)

447 It may also be an old full auto weapon bought back in the early 60s or 50s when there were none of these unconstitutional gun laws. I used to now a guy who had an old Thompson full auto.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (mpXpK)

448 "376 Honestly, you need a full auto flamethrower to burn the army of straw men.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (NMCva)

I'm not lending any of you my full auto flamethrower.

Okay, maybe willow. And Jane. And bluebell. And MWR. And Eris.

Okay, I'm lending the 'Ettes my full autoflamethrower but that's it!
Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:28 PM (mf5HN"

What makes you believe I don't already have my own on a Form 4?

Posted by: Marcus T at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (NMCva)

449 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (72PAC)

450 Just a couple of country boys plyin' their trade.
Posted by: Tom Servo



With their paychecks from the ATF being direct deposited every payday.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (gR+IE)



That was my immediate thought as well.

Posted by: alexthechick - now with extra sand! at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (mf5HN)

451 282 country fans often are Republican gun toters
so what are rap fans?

At least they'd probably be able to fire back.
Posted by: tu3031 at October 02, 2017 01:15 PM (O5Q3r)


With their pistols held sideways? They'd be lucky to hit the Mandalay Bay building.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (SRKgf)

452 413 Fox said he had worked for a subsidiary of Lockheed Martin in the 80's. Guy in the you tube video was wearing a NASA shirt. It's thin gruel. Who knows at this point I just thought I'd mention it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (INJFV)


428 BTW... shooter worked for Goddard in the 90's, subcontracted by NASA

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506964479020.png

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Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (aT+Bx)


Hmmm....Minnfidel might be onto something then.

Posted by: Tami at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (Enq6K)

453 "SHEPARD SMITH REPORTS: Full coverage of Vegas shooting"

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They're eating people in the streets!



Shep's confusing Vegas with San Francisco.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 02, 2017 01:37 PM (60v4h)

454 Credit cards are easy to get, easy to use, and easy to not care about when you don't intend to pay the bill.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:36 PM (UUvSq)

Yup. It's not like you pay cash on the barrel head for a hotel room. Max out a credit card or two for the guns and ammo. Easy deal.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

455 alex jones is also, well, kind of nuts

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And Hillary is kind of crooked.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (Nwg0u)

456 I always wonder what my neighbors would say about me if a reporter ever asked them. "Aggressively unfriendly" is a new one, but I like it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)

I'm thinking I would be something along the lines of "that satanic hell-monkey" or something.
Posted by: joncelli: a man, a plan, a crossbow at October 02, 2017 01:24 PM (RD7QR)

We knew he could be trouble when he first moved back.... and had Men with swords practicing in his front yard...

He would give you the shirt off his back, or a punch to the throat... depending on whether he liked you or not...

Posted by: Don Q. at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (NgKpN)

457 416,
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (t3kPl)


This ..... seconded.

Posted by: geoffb at October 02, 2017 01:38 PM (zOpu5)

458 Hayley Geftman-Gold

I'd hit it.

Posted by: garrett at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (HYDPz)

459 442
Renting a hotel room on the Strip isn't cheap, nor is ammunition and firearms.



So, legitimate questions is: where did the money for all this come from?



Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:31 PM (qC1Sy)


You can get those rooms pretty cheap in package deals.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (mpXpK)

460 Dunno, dagny. I found the David French stuff with the strict fraternization rules for the spouse while he was overseas pushing paper in his reserve gig very, very normal. Not odd at all.

Right.




Posted by: rhomboid at October 02, 2017 01:39 PM (QDnY+)

461 Rather elementary for someone with a modicum of mechanical skill, a little determination, a file and a hack saw, and a willingness to risk federal penitentiary.

My understanding is that you'd have to manufacture a full-auto sear. Detailed measurements can easily be had online. I believe you might be able to make a reasonable facsimile with the tools you describe, but it'd be easier if you had some machining experience.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (jhqr1)

462 416 6. 10 rifles?

Oh, hey, made me think of a youtube video I saw a while back of a clever rig into which you strapped half a dozen AR-15s. The whole rig rotated, firing them one at a time; think gattling gun with AR-15s instead of barrels.

Posted by: Anachronda at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (sGtp+)

463
9. Commercial fire doors such as hotel room doors are by design difficult to get into. In a fire/rescue situation where no one is pumping rounds through the surrounding walls at you there are several options. If doing an opposed entry then explosive breaching followed by a couple of flash-bangs, or frags in a military setting, and dynamic entry would be the norm. This is not something casino security is or should be doing

Easier to go thru the wall...

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (9TU00)

464
'Leaving Las Vegas' in a body bag.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at October 02, 2017 01:40 PM (EgwCt)

465 For some reason, this situation really reminds me of McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing.

There's
a book about it that puts out a good case that Saddam was behind it and
Clinton knew it, but didn't want to rock the boat.

I have the same kind of feeling here.

/or maybe it's just a crazy antfi/bernie supporter.


Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:33 PM (aT+Bx)

The book was the Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis. She makes some pretty concrete allegations that it was a joint operation between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Terry Nichols learned how to build the ANFO bomb from Ramzi Yousef, nephew of Khalid Sheik Mohammad, and the WTC 93 bomb builder in the Philippines. Timothy McVeigh was spotted frequently in the company of Hussein Hashem al Husseini, an Iraqi ex-pat, who came as a refugee following Desert Storm. He reportedly claimed that he was an Iraqi Republican Guard soldier. Ultimately cleared by the FBI, he would show up in Boston working at Logan Airport on 9/11. al Husseini was a dead ringer for the John Doe Number 2 sketches that vanished within 24 hours. One sketch by a woman in the Murrah building who survived the bombing and saw him get out of the truck on the passenger side.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (DxWUs)

466 @442: I see ya'll are ignoring the "two houses and airplanes" part of my original post.

Sort of all goes together: Where did the money come for airplanes, houses, firearms and rooms on the Strip?

Yeesh, people.

Any of the individual items, yes, a lot of people can afford it. In aggregate, no.

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

467 There are reports that he also worked as the manager of an apartment complex so it might be that he did have a valid means of supporting himself.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (/tuJf)

468
Actually, no, airplanes are extremely expensive and hold their value extremely well, whereas boats are terrible for holding their value.


I didn't say they were cheap I said buying them was the cheapest part.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (lKyWE)

469 I shall refrain from judgment until Chelsea weighs in.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (0tN2W)

470 I don't know about Vegas, but I don't think my town keeps C4 explosives hanging around.
Maybe they do, I don't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (wmaTe)

Almost every county in the US has or has immediate access to a SWAT type unit and 90% of those have a basic breaching ability in county or in a mini-regional shared ability.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at October 02, 2017 01:42 PM (t3kPl)

471 "One Piece at a Time" was a great song in large part because he sang it in a way that made you believe he'd actually done it. He could sound very sincere in his songs. The headlight verse comes to mind.

"But when we pulled out the switch all three of 'em come on."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (UUvSq)

472 So somebody educate me here. Can someone explain the actual mechanics of bump fire?

It sounds to me like the trigger finger essentially stays still and the recoil with some sort of bounce makes the weapon move back and forth, effectively pulling the trigger repeatedly. is that close?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (mvenn)

473 Anybody happen to notice the house the brother was standing in front of in Florida this morning? Not exactly a tar paper shack.

Maybe the family has money. Who knows? It only happened a few hours ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (/tuJf)

474 One thing that we do know about the shooter: he had a lot of money. He owned two airplanes. Airplanes basically make holes in the air into which you dump wheel barrows full of cash. He was an instrument rated pilot. Allegedly his condo cost $365,000.

+++

The 1%er Spree Shooter

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (9F7aA)

475 Actually, no, airplanes are extremely expensive and hold their value extremely well, whereas boats are terrible for holding their value.

An airworthy 1975 single engine Cessna 172 today is almost worth it's value brand new.
Posted by: Soothsayer

That's because the maintenance requirements to keep in the air are so high.

Posted by: Jean at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (9TU00)

476

Sort of all goes together: Where did the money come for airplanes, houses, firearms and rooms on the Strip?

Yeesh, people.

Any of the individual items, yes, a lot of people can afford it. In aggregate, no.
Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

Sort of all goes together: Where did the money come for airplanes, houses, firearms and rooms on the Strip?

Yeesh, people.

Any of the individual items, yes, a lot of people can afford it. In aggregate, no.
Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

Unsecured credit cards. Small planes don't cos t that much and he may have had friends that had a plane. There's a ton of guys that are pilots that hang out at the small airports that don't own planes.
If he gambles the room may have been free.
Cheap firearms from Mexico?

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (Ri/rl)

477
I always wonder what my neighbors would say about me if a reporter ever asked them. "Aggressively unfriendly" is a new one, but I like it. Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:22 PM (wmaTe)


He was a real hairy guy

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at October 02, 2017 01:44 PM (lKyWE)

478 466 @442: I see ya'll are ignoring the "two houses and airplanes" part of my original post.

Sort of all goes together: Where did the money come for airplanes, houses, firearms and rooms on the Strip?

Yeesh, people.

Any of the individual items, yes, a lot of people can afford it. In aggregate, no.

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (qC1Sy)

---

We're the Horde, dammit. Stream of consciousness about shiny things is how we roll. Just getting a response is often an accomplishment.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (UUvSq)

479 yeah, new thread.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at October 02, 2017 01:46 PM (ILitO)

480 I heard he lived in a $400,000 home and the police just announced that they found out he own another property that they're going to search now. I can't imagine being a manager of a retirement community pays all that great.

Posted by: D-FENS at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (q1ack)

481 Daily Mail reports that daddy was a bank robber and was on the FBI Top Ten while he was an escaped fugitiv
---
Maybe the shooter had Daddy's money?

Posted by: Methos at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (XQvuQ)

482 I don't know about Vegas, but I don't think my town keeps C4 explosives hanging around.



Maybe they do, I don't know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM


Well....you are in New Hampshire....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (p+Wdc)

483 >>Actually, no, airplanes are extremely expensive and hold their value extremely well, whereas boats are terrible for holding their value.

Depends on the boat and how it was maintained. If you are talking a 21 foot runabout then yes. If you are talking a boat that is the equivalent of an airplane with similar maintenance, some of them hold their value quite well.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 02, 2017 01:47 PM (/tuJf)

484 We're the Horde, dammit. Stream of consciousness about shiny things is how we roll. Just getting a response is often an accomplishment.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football - Forever at October 02, 2017 01:45 PM (UUvSq)

Made me laugh and considering the crapola day that it is, that's an accomplishment.

Posted by: blake at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (qC1Sy)

485 It sounds to me like the trigger finger essentially
stays still and the recoil with some sort of bounce makes the weapon
move back and forth, effectively pulling the trigger repeatedly. is
that close?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 02, 2017 01:43 PM (mvenn)
That is how I see it too. The recoil cycles the trigger so if you depress the trigger without releasing it, it functions like an automatic weapon.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at October 02, 2017 01:48 PM (DxWUs)

486 Rooms at that Mandalay Hotel go for as low as $112/night (not counting taxes and fees)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (mpXpK)

487 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at October 02, 2017 01:49 PM (mpXpK)

488 You don't need to be a billionaire to pull that off.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (Jcg9Q)

No, but being a millionaire several times over would help. Even a Piper Cub is going to run you as much as a house, once you factor in maintenance, insurance, and hangarage.

And this guy seems to have had no visible means of support.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (O848g)

489 How does a sporadically employed man retire early, own three houses and two airplanes?

As an auditor for a big defense contractor... the possibilities are almost endless for graft.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (jAZR9)

490 489 How does a sporadically employed man retire early, own three houses and two airplanes?

As an auditor for a big defense contractor... the possibilities are almost endless for graft.
Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (jAZR9)

I'm just spitballing here but maybe he's from CA. $400.00 is barely a starter house here. You can sell your normal house here for 800-1 million and take the money and run.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 01:57 PM (Ri/rl)

491 While still waiting for facts to uncover...my first reaction and statement to the wife this morning was we will know immediately about the background/motive of the shooter by the media's journolist ramblings....if they caught wind he were a right-winger you would hear nothing else. If we hear nothing...you can be assured the shooter had leftist ties/leanings.

Godspeed to the victims.

Posted by: Ezra'S Equal at October 02, 2017 01:58 PM (25/xd)

492 And this guy seems to have had no visible means of support.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 01:54 PM (O848g)

Where is our fancy jet pilot that posts here? He would know what the planes cost. I don't know what a little plane costs.
I know what a small jet and king airs cost.

I though a little piper is about 250,000? Maintenance and fuel are really expensive.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 02, 2017 01:59 PM (Ri/rl)

493 Not sure why all the questions about making semi into auto and how hard it is.

If someone really wants a full auto weapon they can buy it, make it or alter a weapon. Period. No current or new law would change that fact.

Posted by: Ceasar at October 02, 2017 02:01 PM (x8dHd)

494 Sickening news to wake up to this morning. My prayers for all of those affected personally and for our entire nation.

Posted by: Cheri at October 02, 2017 02:02 PM (oiNtH)

495 Many here are making some really strange assumptions about how hard it would be for the shooter to have an auto weapon and how hard it is to modify a weapon.

What makes you think that he did anything? He could have had the weapons given to him with simple instructions on how to use them. I'm surprised with all of the in-the-box thinking on this.

Posted by: Soona at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (ZAAkQ)

496 166 @Brother Cavil, Joyrider in Ace's Time Machine

With current technology, you don't, sorta.

https://youtu.be/TCNgY9mQltk

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 02, 2017 02:09 PM (W+kMI)

497 Geftman-Gold....don't any of you Jooooo haters and anti-semites dare try to tell us that God's Chosen People don't love us goys with an unquenchable passion. That would just be crazy talk.

Posted by: Scott at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (qfJkb)

498 ^ Oh course, some knowledge, and tools are involved. And not something a gun noob would have a solid handle on.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 02, 2017 02:11 PM (W+kMI)

499 BTW... shooter worked for Goddard in the 90's, subcontracted by NASA

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506964479020.png

/image safe for work


Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (aT+Bx)

Different first name spelling. Location (MD) not yet associated with shooter ID.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:12 PM (tbOMB)

500 BTW... shooter worked for Goddard in the 90's, subcontracted by NASA

http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1506964479020.png

/image safe for work

Posted by: shibumi at October 02, 2017 01:34 PM (aT+Bx)

Woman in photos sure looks like it could be the "asian" girlfriend.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon, survivor of GNAMM at October 02, 2017 02:13 PM (O848g)

501 The more audio I hear the more convniced these were bump fire stocks. There are more than a few erratic rates of fire.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at October 02, 2017 01:35 PM (Vz9Up)

That's fair. I only heard the one clip and it sounded fairly smooth.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:14 PM (tbOMB)

502 I'm surprised with all of the in-the-box thinking on this.

Posted by: Soona at October 02, 2017 02:06 PM (ZAAkQ)

The question posed was how hard it would be. Not whether the shooter did it himself.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 02, 2017 02:18 PM (tbOMB)

503 Talk about full auto:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/viewers-call-milk-advert-showing-11254231

Posted by: Ceasar at October 02, 2017 02:20 PM (x8dHd)

504 What peace could be had with such "people"? To keep having a country the democrats will have to be defeated and driven out, preferably to a different continent.

Posted by: JoshO at October 02, 2017 02:21 PM (oIhkJ)

505 "A country in which large numbers of people cheerlead the deaths of large
numbers of their fellow countrymen is no longer a country, and people
should be adults and recognize this, and do the adult thing. It's time
for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution."

Do you think they'll be satisfied with that? You know these types. It will be necessary to whip the shit out of them, make no mistake.

Posted by: Monty James at October 02, 2017 02:23 PM (gKOMX)

506 "It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution."

No. I want my pound of flesh out of these leftist assholes when the time comes.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 02, 2017 02:25 PM (jWe5r)

507 Folks, I doubt these are LearJets the guy owned. I haven't seen any description, but my guess is a couple of puddle jumpers. Single engine props.

You don't need to be a billionaire to pull that off.

Posted by: Country Boy - 2017 GNAMM survivor at October 02, 2017 01:23 PM (Jcg9Q)
***************

Perfect for flying low and slow.

Posted by: gNewt at October 02, 2017 02:28 PM (NWEal)

508 There was no need to use bump fire or some other 3rd way get around the rule method.
This guy had enough money and smarts to purchase, hook or crook, an automatic weapon.

Posted by: gNewt at October 02, 2017 02:31 PM (NWEal)

509 Willow weep for me
Willow weep for me
Bend your branches green along the
Stream that runs to sea
Listen to my plea
Hear me willow and weep for me

Posted by: gNewt at October 02, 2017 02:33 PM (NWEal)

510 Could be other killers out there who left this guy as the fall guy.
Posted by: Jihadi at October 02, 2017 12:58 PM (I64i9)

NO CONCURRENT AUTOMATIC WEAPONS FIRE.

Listen to the videos. ONE shooter.

Posted by: _Jim at October 02, 2017 02:45 PM (YxM4x)

511 As to it being the shooter at the anti trump rally.

1. Looks like him. Maybe 1% of the population looks like him. So odds against 3,000,000 to one.

2. Rally took place in Nevada. Shooter lived in Nevada. Reduces Odds against from 3,000,000 to 1 to 30,000 to 1.
3. Guy at Rally wearing a NASA shirt. Shooter worked for NASA contractor Lockheed Martin. Chance of a person who looks like him having a NASA shirt - maybe one in 100 which reduces odds its not him to 30 to one.
4. Woman at rally next to him looks like his girlfriend( a known leftist ) . Maybe one woman in a thousand in the US looks like his girlfriend. Which means the odds that it is not him is reduced to .03 to 1. In other words there is 33 to one chance that is him at the rally.

Posted by: Clearly at October 02, 2017 02:45 PM (gNQDb)

512 Wow, the hate now when someone extends their "thoughts and prayers"...

Posted by: KWDreaming at October 02, 2017 02:48 PM (S6xeB)

513 waiting to hear from the ATF if he paid the $200 for class III firearms.

Posted by: arbitrary turn back at October 02, 2017 02:48 PM (8RQER)

514 Twitter: The Wrap - CBS Exec Fired for 'Unacceptable' Post About 'Republican Gun Toters' After Vegas Shooting

Posted by: KWDreaming at October 02, 2017 02:52 PM (S6xeB)

515 The book was the Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis.
...
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at October 02, 2017 01:41 PM (DxWUs)

We debunked her crap on FreeRepublic a long time ago - It is not a credible work.

Posted by: _Jim at October 02, 2017 03:06 PM (YxM4x)

516 And what would the dumbass have us DO, exactly ????

Hhhhmmmm.... ????

He use automatic weapons which there is no reason whatsoever, based on what we know to date, that he would legally own them. Therefore, there were active gun laws against the guns he used.

And, again, I would point out for the trillionth time, if you're down with mass murder, you're probably ok with breaking a few administrative gun laws, too.

Fucking idiot.

Posted by: deadrody at October 02, 2017 03:49 PM (FvbGP)

517 "It's time for a peaceful voluntary national dissolution."

That word you keep using... 'voluntary' ... I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Jimmy don\'t play that at October 02, 2017 05:02 PM (cOH8P)

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