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"I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!"

Jeff Dunetz over at The Lid has some fun with Joy Reid, but it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Joy Reid Rant About Trump’s 'Russian' Wives Is Proof You Can't Fix Stupid



This is becoming par for the course. The incredible insularity, ignorance and stupid laziness of the chattering classes. I accept that some people are simply less capable of higher-order thought. And I accept that some people are lazy. But why is the Venn diagram of those two segments of the population perfectly representative of the media? And it is unfortunately not restricted to the leftists....just talk to any of the mainstream Republican pundits about guns or the minimum wage or basic economics (supply and demand) and you will discover a startling stupidity.

So what's your favorite idiotic pronouncement from the buffoons of the fourth estate?

Posted by: CBD at 12:05 PM




Comments

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1 Its all in the feeling

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 11:55 AM (9g/6M)

2 The Roy Bulgar award

Posted by: Avi at July 23, 2017 11:55 AM (PtAg5)

3 OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

Posted by: Batterup at July 23, 2017 11:55 AM (mtGE/)

4 Ray Bolger

Posted by: Avi at July 23, 2017 11:56 AM (PtAg5)

5 I'd probably have a good example but I never pay attention to the fourth estate. The stupid just burns.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 23, 2017 11:56 AM (0tfLf)

6 The pants creases, my God, the creases. **squirt**

Posted by: David Brooks at July 23, 2017 11:57 AM (LAe3v)

7 What enchants you? And my I stroke your willy? Please?

Posted by: Jeff Zeleny at July 23, 2017 11:57 AM (LAe3v)

8 Just like firefighters!

Posted by: Katy Tur at July 23, 2017 11:58 AM (mtGE/)

9 Also, I though we could retire the award for that peawit who asked a GOP rep (I forget which one) if he had a degree in economics, because he said something with which she disagreed.

He answered: "Yes, from Duke, with highest honors".

Posted by: pep at July 23, 2017 11:59 AM (LAe3v)

10 The difference between rape & rape-rape. Rape-rape is not okay, but rape is.

Posted by: Whoopie at July 23, 2017 12:00 PM (mtGE/)

11 I can do this all day long, people.

Posted by: pep at July 23, 2017 12:00 PM (LAe3v)

12 The good thing for her is Being on the Left means never having to say your sorry.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 12:01 PM (9g/6M)

13 White Hispanic

Posted by: CNN at July 23, 2017 12:01 PM (mtGE/)

14 >>He answered: "Yes, from Duke, with highest honors".

I remember that. Wasn't the Rep. from Georgia or one of the other ex-Soviet states?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 12:01 PM (/tuJf)

15 There is no famine in Ukraine. Well, if you want to count that mound of emaciated corpses over there, sure, but why would you?

Posted by: Walter Duranty at July 23, 2017 12:01 PM (LAe3v)

16 The key is making sure you signal that you haven't been exposed to unapproved thinking. Her ignorance of the facts/geography signals she didn't take the risk of inadvertent contact with a Trump supporter so she's safe.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (mePeF)

17 over at british open there's a player hitting a ball with an improbable lie on the side of a hill.

that's why it's called "links" golf, from the old scottish "hlinc" meaning a rising ground or ridge.

perfect.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (WTSFk)

18 Geography and history ain't Joy's thing, apparently. However being an idiot is.

Posted by: IC at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (gcme+)

19 I remember that. Wasn't the Rep. from Georgia or one of the other ex-Soviet states?

Posted by: JackStraw


He was Southern, but that's the best I can do. Clearly not from Florida, though.

Posted by: pep at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (LAe3v)

20 Their stupidity know no bounds!

Posted by: Basket O' Deplorables at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (3S5It)

21 "Hate has no home." And we'll bash your head in with a bike lock if you disagree with us.

Posted by: fly gal at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (QmGSa)

22 NYT columnist who wondered why our incarceration rate was so high while the crime rate was going down.

Posted by: mark1971 at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (xPl2J)

23 Hands up don't shoot AFTER the violent perpetrators were shown to be horrible animals attempting to murder another human being. .

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (psH+N)

24 What a maroon. She wears her ignorance as a badge of honor. She probably doesn't even know how to find Europe on a map of the world.

Posted by: Tuna at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (jm1YL)

25 Affirmative Action in, uh, action.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (0mRoj)

26 ... although "links" golf mostly refers to sandy, seaside courses.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (WTSFk)

27 White Hispanics.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (psH+N)

28 22
NYT columnist who wondered why our incarceration rate was so high while the crime rate was going down.


Fox Butterfield. Good one.

Posted by: pep at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (LAe3v)

29 We are anxiously waiting for the HuffPo "Looking For America" bus tour here in Nazi middle-America.

Posted by: Ripley at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (MxEKc)

30 And Bill Clinton married Hillary. What's your point, that Trump is Da Man?

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (pszv/)

31 "NYT columnist who wondered why our incarceration rate was so high while the crime rate was going down."

Really? Bwahahaha

Posted by: Tuna at July 23, 2017 12:04 PM (jm1YL)

32 Don Lemon and the black hole.

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 23, 2017 12:04 PM (0mRoj)

33 I have a tingle up my leg.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at July 23, 2017 12:04 PM (/qEW2)

34 So what's your favorite idiotic pronouncement from the buffoons of the fourth estate?

Straightforward from here:

1. Go to Sally Kohn's Twitter feed
2. Pick random tweet.
3. Ta-daaaah!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 12:05 PM (OiLIO)

35 Pep, that was Alabama's Mo Brooks. Peabrain was Contessa Brewer.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at July 23, 2017 12:05 PM (THS4q)

36 "Fake, but accurate"

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (xPl2J)

37 Don't harsh my mellow. And don't inconvenience my truth bombs, yo.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (/qEW2)

38 Can u see Russia from the US, Joy-toy?

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (yKB8T)

39 "Trump is a stupid Pathetic!"

"I am leaving the House to spend more time with my family and my son who has diabetes." (2 wives/girlfriends/whores ago)

"Mika, will you marry me?"

Joe Scarhead is the ultimate buffoon of buffoon's in the so called 4th Estate.

He is the king.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 23, 2017 12:07 PM (5VlCp)

40 We both misremembered. It was that other genius, Contessa Brewer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMa-_fd0E0Q

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (/tuJf)

41

♫We've all gone to look for America♫

Posted by: HuffPoo bus riders at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (IqV8l)

42 There was no collusion

Posted by: Jared at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (VvgWy)

43 Don't paint with a broad brush about Muslims after Muslims get all shooty, but paint with a broad brush about gun owners after Muslims get all shooty.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (psH+N)

44 HE. WILL. NOT. DIVIDE. US!!!

I can't even bring myself to mention that f*cker's name.

Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (/qEW2)

45 So what's your favorite idiotic pronouncement from the buffoons of the fourth estate?

"What future could possibly be more terrible than the reality of what is happening to Cambodia now?'" - Anthony Lewis, New York.Times, April, 1975.

"Indochina without Americans: for most, a better life.'" - Sydney Schanberg, New York Times, April 13, 1975.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (dhWsa)

46 51% of the population can somehow be a minority.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 23, 2017 12:10 PM (psH+N)

47 When Romney referred to his children as "my five boys" it was a dog whistle! Who you callin' "boy"?

It takes a village to raise a child, and whatever village Mitt lives in should confiscate his children so they don't grow up to be privileged capitalists like him.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at July 23, 2017 12:11 PM (/qEW2)

48 Sure, I'll go on Jeopardy. How hard could it be?

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at July 23, 2017 12:11 PM (LAe3v)

49 Please note that being catastrophically wrong did not affect either the careers of Anthony Lewis ("The Man Who Was Wrong About Everything") or Sydney Schanberg.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:11 PM (dhWsa)

50 We should not be building walls. We should be breaking down barriers! And I ain't no ways taaarrhd. It's da hot sauce in mah purse, keeps me goin' yo! Word up.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 23, 2017 12:13 PM (/qEW2)

51 "Stalin has opened hundreds of all-you-can buffets all across the Ukraine!"

Posted by: Walter Duranty at July 23, 2017 12:13 PM (QmGSa)

52
I thought there was something different and quieter about this weekend. No bi-polar bi-partisan Senator McCain hitting the weekend political programs tossing feces around.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 23, 2017 12:14 PM (EgwCt)

53 Intersectional disparate impact privilege triggering.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 23, 2017 12:15 PM (/qEW2)

54 On journalists:

"Influence without responsibility is the prerogative of harlots." - Stanley Baldwin

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:15 PM (dhWsa)

55 We are anxiously waiting for the HuffPo "Looking For America" bus tour here in Nazi middle-America.
Posted by: Ripley at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM

We're here in Nazi Great Lakes America waiting as well. We're wearing our MAGA hats over our Klan-gear, so the Huffpo people will feel more comfortable with us.

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:15 PM (aT+Bx)

56 We will berry you! *tee-hee*

Posted by: Strawberry Kruschchev at July 23, 2017 12:16 PM (/qEW2)

57 "Billy Boy, I know real Irish tough guys. They don't look like you and sound like you."

Posted by: Lawrence O'Donnell, noted bas-ass, Harvard, offspring of an attorney and an office manager, man of t at July 23, 2017 12:16 PM (LAe3v)

58 My vote is for Melissa Harris-Perry for the tampon earring stunt.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at July 23, 2017 12:16 PM (THS4q)

59 Don't bust my balls.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 23, 2017 12:19 PM (/qEW2)

60 49 Please note that being catastrophically wrong did not affect either the careers of Anthony Lewis ("The Man Who Was Wrong About Everything") or Sydney Schanberg.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:11 PM (dhWsa)


I thought the man who was wrong about everything was Strobe Talbott.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 12:19 PM (OiLIO)

61 I thought the man who was wrong about everything was Strobe Talbott.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 12:19 PM (OiLIO)



He was just a flash in the pan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 23, 2017 12:19 PM (SRKgf)

62 >>I thought the man who was wrong about everything was Strobe Talbott.

Joe Biden. Just ask Bill Gates.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 12:21 PM (/tuJf)

63 The whole Hillary has it in the bag from all of them.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 12:22 PM (9g/6M)

64
The bridge that connects Palestinian Gaza with Palestinian West Bank. Cited in Vox, IIRC.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 12:22 PM (pNxlR)

65 1. Go to Sally Kohn's Twitter feed
2. Pick random tweet.
3. Ta-daaaah!

Posted by: OregonMuse


I know, right? Like with me, just pick a random sermon. You pretty smart, for a whitey.

Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at July 23, 2017 12:23 PM (/qEW2)

66 "Act of love". I ain't feelin' the love, yeb.

Posted by: Kate Steinle at July 23, 2017 12:24 PM (/qEW2)

67 I know, right? Like with me, just pick a random sermon. You pretty smart, for a whitey.
Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at July 23, 2017 12:23 PM
--

Sorry.

I meant to say "racist fat ass cracker," not "a whitey."

Posted by: Jeremiah Wright at July 23, 2017 12:24 PM (aT+Bx)

68 42
There was no collusion

Posted by: Jared at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (VvgWy)

-----------------------------------

Lot of people have been looking for a long time...............

Posted by: Javems at July 23, 2017 12:25 PM (yOqwj)

69 You have to pass it to know what's in it. Then you can read it and weep.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at July 23, 2017 12:25 PM (/qEW2)

70 I didn't know who Joy Reid was, so I googled her.

Harvard '91.

Lux et Veritas, baby.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 12:25 PM (gIRsn)

71 "There has never been a man or a woman, not me, not Bill, nobody more
qualified than Hillary Clinton to serve as president of the United
States of America,"

Posted by: Barry Obama at July 23, 2017 12:25 PM (TO4Og)

72 Go to Sally Kohn's Twitter feed

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 12:05 PM (OiLIO)

No.

That's too easy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 12:25 PM (wYseH)

73 "Even Donald Trump no longer thinks Donald Trump will win the election, which is why he is spending so much time talking about the election being rigged and bragging about having gone to an Ivy League school.

Campaign coverage at this point has the feeling of a party that has gone on too long, but which still has an hour left on the official clock. Some reporters are gamely trying to keep in the spirit of things, but others are ostentatiously looking at their watches and starting conversations about the shape of a future Clinton presidency, or getting an early jump on the campaign autopsies.

An autopsy of the Trump campaign seems singularly pointless. To a first approximation, he has no campaign. The more interesting question is: What happens to the Republican Party in the wake of Trump?"

- Megan McArdle, October 25, 2016

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:26 PM (dhWsa)

74 What are the meaning of "is"?

Ah feel your pain, but I ain't gonna feel your penis.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 23, 2017 12:26 PM (/qEW2)

75
24 What a maroon. She wears her ignorance as a badge of honor. She probably doesn't even know how to find Europe on a map of the world.
Posted by: Tuna at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (jm1YL)


IIRC, Reid was one of the jackasses who brayed at Ann Colter's assertion on Bill Maher's show that DJT would win the GOP nomination.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 12:27 PM (pNxlR)

76 My favorite lefty blog comments so far are:

"We know he is guilty of Russian influence; now all we need is the evidence."

and

"The Repubs are running scared, everyone knows that." (This was under recent general US politics discussion, and *seems* to overlook elections resulting in:

- Presidency, both houses of Congress, Supreme Court majority, majority of governors, majority of state governments, etc.)

Posted by: goatexchange at July 23, 2017 12:28 PM (YFnq5)

77 Who was the talking head who couldn't find her own ass without a producer directing her through her earpiece?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 12:28 PM (wYseH)

78 73 That was some brilliant prognostication right there.

Posted by: steevy at July 23, 2017 12:29 PM (rmVvL)

79
"There has never been a man or a woman, not me, not Bill, nobody more

qualified than Hillary Clinton to serve as president of the United

States of America," Posted by: Barry Obama at July 23, 2017 12:25 PM (TO4Og)
=====

By the same: The future does not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.


Posted by: mustbequantum at July 23, 2017 12:29 PM (MIKMs)

80 NYT columnist who wondered why our incarceration rate was so high while the crime rate was going down.
Posted by: mark1971 at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM


Refer them to last night's ONT for a mathematical interlude that is sure to elucidate, inspire, and delight.


Posted by: J. Random Moron at July 23, 2017 12:30 PM (DMUuz)

81
We both misremembered. It was that other genius, Contessa Brewer.


Please. Contessa Brewers' Yeast Infection.

Credit given where credit due.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 12:30 PM (pNxlR)

82 "The Republican party has become too extreme to attract voters." - Common journalistic trope

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:30 PM (dhWsa)

83 76 That's the Left wing way .They'll find the crime,Mueller is doing it right now.His real crime was winning and that must be punished.

Posted by: steevy at July 23, 2017 12:31 PM (rmVvL)

84 Not the MSM but one of the dumbest things I ever heard was Bill Clinton saying to a 99.9% white group of Portland college students in 1998:

"n fifty years there will no longer be a white majority in the United States"

What Clinton said was no so dumb as it almost undoubtedly, will be the reality. What was so stupid and disturbing was the wild cheering and applause by the clueless students cheering their demise.


Posted by: Ripley at July 23, 2017 12:31 PM (MxEKc)

85 "70 I didn't know who Joy Reid was, so I googled her.

Harvard '91.

Lux et Veritas, baby."

Really? LOL. Equal opportunity strikes again

Posted by: Tuna at July 23, 2017 12:31 PM (jm1YL)

86 "Lux et Veritas, baby."

That's Yale.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:33 PM (dhWsa)

87 I was shopping, and this white chick had the temeraudicity to aks ME to get somethin off the shelf for her, like I was still on the plantation or somethin'!

I gots a degree from a Ivy Leeg Univarsity, and even I don't know how to nutritiate my kids properly!!! Now if I don't know how to do that, you dumb white folk sure don't know. That's why you need my guidance of my government appointed nutrionologists.

Posted by: The Mooch at July 23, 2017 12:33 PM (/qEW2)

88
77 Who was the talking head who couldn't find her own ass without a producer directing her through her earpiece?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 12:28 PM (wYseH)


Soledad O'Brian

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 12:33 PM (pNxlR)

89 The more interesting question is: What happens to the Republican Party in the wake of Trump?"

- Megan McArdle, October 25, 2016


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:26 PM (dhWsa)

Well the last part; there actually is some truth to.

Will other Republican candidates emulate the 'Trump model' of confrontation vs capitulation? Will other Republican candidates get behind the Trump agenda or seek to undercut the president?

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 23, 2017 12:33 PM (EgwCt)

90 But goatexchange, even right here at the HQ we have commenters who claim to believe that the GOP, after being dragged almost against its will into its greatest partisan advantage (nationally) in history, doesn't dare actually address the main issues that brung 'em.

So the do-little/do-nothing GOP has a deep moat to protect it - the trap of a two-party system when neither party will do the people's will, and the apparently inexhaustible readiness even by many who support desperately needed change to rationalize GOP inaction.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:34 PM (iynDC)

91 I meant "nutritionologists". Sorry for the typo.

Posted by: The Mooch at July 23, 2017 12:34 PM (/qEW2)

92 " ... Campaign coverage at this point has the feeling of a
party that has gone on too long, but which still has an hour left on
the official clock. Some reporters are gamely trying to keep in the
spirit of things, but others are ostentatiously looking at their watches
and starting conversations about the shape of a future Clinton
presidency, or getting an early jump on the campaign autopsies."
- Megan McArdle, October 25, 2016
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 12:26 PM


See? I told you it was going to be an early night. But noooooooo! To this day, I am still mocked here.

Nevertheless, I persist.

Posted by: Bill Wynn at July 23, 2017 12:34 PM (DMUuz)

93 /sets the way back machine to 1968

Walter Cronkite saying the Viet Nam war was unwinnable, right after the Tet Offensive where we had more than decimated North VietNams military.

Posted by: Don Q. at July 23, 2017 12:35 PM (NgKpN)

Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-23-2017


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King's College Library, Cambridge University


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which the sport of curling actually encourages, believe it or not.


Our Betters

I guess progressives don't like Hillbilly Elegy. Here's a guy who works in an independent bookstore, who's all butthurt that he has to sell it:

But when it comes to the above conversation concerning J.D. Vance’s bestselling memoir, there is something a bit more personal at stake, viz. my moral objection to the book that has become, for conservatives and liberals alike, a means of understanding the rise of “Trumpism.”

So he's got a "moral objection." Whoop de do. What, exactly, is his beef with it?

I don’t intend to review Elegy here. More capable pieces have already been written about the book’s “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” message, its condemnation of a supposed culture of poverty, its dismissal of the working class’s material reality as a determining factor in their lives, and its callous claim that the welfare state only reinforces a cycle of dependency.

You get the idea. The article is one long sneer at people who think differently than he does about social issues. The very existence of ideas he doesn't like evidently causes hm pain. His solution is to recommend "alternative titles" and to "start conversations". I can't believe he's serious about the latter. The word "conversation" implies a more or less equal give-and-take, but when it comes to those of us who *do* think that welfare reinforces dependency, does he expect us to believe tha he'd like to really know why we think this? Hardly. the progressive idea of a conversation is "shut up."

But if he wants to swap titles, I suppose I could recommend books such as Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell or Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980 by Charles Murray. Both books go a long way to establish the intellectual and moral basis for free-market capitalism, and why, yes, indiscriminate welfare is actually harmful.

Fun fact: Do you know who *doesn't* complain about selling books he doesn't like? Jeff Bezos, that's who.

It's clear from the article that the author of this piece doesn't actually own the bookstore he's working in, which, maybe if he had to look at the bottom line every month, he'd be less worried about this kind of nonsense and more worried about how his store could bring in enough money to pay his lazy-ass slacker clerks. But if he is just a paid employee of a bookstore, then the solution to his big "moral" problem presents itself. Namely, he can always, get this, quit his job and do something else, like barista work at a coffee kiosk, or perhaps put together an acting troupe and see if there's any money doing Hipster Dinner Theater.

And one last thing about the author:

Working at an independent bookstore in the Greater Boston area...

And why are we not surprised? I'll bet he reads Vox "hot takes" and believes every word of them.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

To NIFFLE is to waste your time.

Usage: This stupid 'Russia hacked the election' narrative makes my niffles ache.

Looks Like A Fun Book

I found out about The LawDog Files from the Monster Hunter himself:

I’ve known the Lawdog for about twenty years now. He was one of the original alpha readers for my first book because we were both moderators on the same gun forum. Ian is a great guy.

As a small town Texas cop he used to post these funny true life stories, and they were hilarious. Seriously, the guy has a gift. Some of these stories have become internet legend, like the amorous armadillo, the pink gorilla suit, and the shootout with Santa.

After nearly two decades of us bugging him, Lawdog has finally written a book! ... Lawdog is funny, talented, and has a way with words that can be making you laugh one minute, and punching you in the feels the next. I’m so glad he finally put together a book.

Amazon blurb:

LawDog had the honor of representing law and order in the Texas town of Bugscuffle as a Sheriff's Deputy, where...he chronicles his official encounters with everything from naked bikers, combative eco-warriors, suicidal drunks, respectful methheads, prison tattoo artists, and creepy children to six-foot chickens and lethal chihuahuas...rang[ing] from the bittersweet to the explosively hilarious, as LawDog relates his unforgettable experiences in a laconic, self-deprecating manner that is funny in its own right. The book is more than mere entertainment, it is an education in two English dialects, Police and Texas Country. And underlying the humor is an unmistakable sympathy for society's less fortunate - and in most cases, significantly less intelligent - whose encounters with the law are an all-too-frequent affair.

Correia was pursuaded to write a forward for this book, which is available on Kindle for $4.99.


Books By Morons

I heard from moron author Daniel (A Place Outside The Wild) Humphreys a few days ago that Silver Empire Publishing did podcast interviews with several writers at LibertyCon recently, and the first two podcast episodes features Humphreys, as well as moron author Hans (The Hidden Truth) Schantz.

Podcast with Daniel Humphreys
Podcast with Hanz Schantz

Both are approximately 15 minutes long.

___________


A lurking moron wanted a bit if pimpage for a novel published by a friend of his, since they "do not get any kind of publicity besides me emailing this thread." Loci Periculosi, by Richard Largaux. Set in the late 17th century Europe and Massachusetts, it sounds very interesting, at least to me:

Thomas Rake arrives in the late seventeenth-century dissenters’ lair of Lowestoft as winter’s grip brings a new onslaught of witch trials. With specious claims to disputed farmland, Rake systematically antagonizes the town authority, ultimately sparking a parlous religious disputation. Heretical statements striking at the heart of Protestant principles of predestination and sola scriptura bring for Rake indictments and an evolving gravity toward the stake.

A narrative that sweeps across battlefields of the Nine Years War, over the decks of William’s and Louis’ warships, and through the fires that consume the martyrs of the new heresy, Loci Periculosi presents an alternative Diet of Worms from the reverse perspective… exactly half a millennium after Luther conceived the ninety-seven theses.

I'd buy that (book) for a dollar! I'd also buy it for its current price on Kindle, $3.99.

Mr. Largaux has a previous novel, Calx, that asks the question

Is Western culture the result of random good fortune, or is it an outcome of design by otherworldly super-sentience? Philosopher John Walker roams America delivering a narrative that suggests the latter, and a controversial message evolves to a dangerous manifesto as both supporters and detractors are motivated to action by their misinterpretations, driving the nation to its second civil war.

$2.99 on Kindle.


What I'm Reading

This week, I finally got around to reading a mystery novel I mentioned here last January, Slow Death in the Fast Lane by J.W. Kerwin. The blurb starts out

If you hate the IRS, you'll love this book!

That's why I bought the book, and I must say it very much lived up to this claim.

Here's more of the blurb:

Years of creative accounting have landed Harvey Berkowitz in court, charged with criminal tax fraud. The government has a mountain of incriminating evidence and what appears to be an airtight case. But Harvey has Brendan O’Brian, an unconventional defense attorney with a reputation for winning seemingly unwinnable cases.

O’Brian turns the tables on the government, putting the Tax Code and predatory IRS practices on trial with strategies that create a circus-like atmosphere in the normally staid federal court.

O'Brian's bamboozling courtroom antics vs. the IRS and the sitting judge are hilarious. And if you don't hate the IRS now, you will after you finish this book. I think I already knew this, but I was reminded that the U.S. tax codes are so complicated, no one really understands them, and there's some financial firm or magazine that puts together a hypothetical individual with income, deductions, etc. and then gives the data to thed top 6 or 8 accounting firms with the instructions to generate an accurate tax return. And every year, each of the tax returns turn out to be different from each other, often remarkably so. O'Brian brings this up in court. Also mentioned are a couple of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations where complying with one particular regulation will necessarily cause you to violate another. And then they come at you with an army of lawyers, forensic accountants, and all the resources of the federal government that can be brought to bear.

We're The IRS. We Don't Care. We Don't Have To.

So I finished that one, which you can still buy for 99 cents on Kindle, and started on the second Brendan O'Brian mystery, A Stranger In My Own Hometown. Here, O'Brian takes on a Muslim pressure group called the "Council for Islamic Religious Respect (CIRR)". Gee, I wonder who that's supposed to be?

O'Brian is defending a hottie reporter (whom he is romantically involved with) who wrote bad things about Islam and is being sued by CIRR for "defamation of Islam."

Kindle version $2.99. Still pretty reasonable.

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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:02 AM (9g/6M)

2 th!

Just finished "The Letter of Marque" as I read and enjoy my way through the O'Brian classic. Got side tracked and am now reading several dog related books recommended here. The training books, I'm reading out loud to Conor in hopes that he'll pick up a few tips on how he's supposed to behave!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 09:04 AM (gwPgz)

3 OK, rd

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 09:04 AM (gwPgz)

4 Fir-- ...

... nuts.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:05 AM (zkGZ8)

5 Reading about the D-Day invasion planning The Cross Channel Attack from the US Army Center of Military History. About 1/4 of the way through.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:06 AM (9g/6M)

6 Just snapped up Lawdog Files for the Kindle. Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: RM at July 23, 2017 09:06 AM (eP+dt)

7 You do need to get up awful early to beat me.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:07 AM (9g/6M)

8 Pretty close to the top, this AM.

Books: Just finishing "The Blue Nile" by Alan Morehead, a history of exploration and exploitation of the Blue Nile, from 1700 to 1870. Excellent - much history that I did not know. Will then start on Morehead's "The White Nile."

Posted by: Gref at July 23, 2017 09:07 AM (AMIL/)

9 Top ten?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at July 23, 2017 09:08 AM (+ldAm)

10 I've got a third niffle.

Posted by: Antonio Scaramucci at July 23, 2017 09:10 AM (BO/km)

11 PhD bud on FB was complaining about Hillbilly Elegy & the 'bootstrapping.' He offered suggestions to other works re: Appalachian poverty. Posted to him: what no Deliverance? Soooo smart but no sense...of humor.

Posted by: This River Don't Go To Antry at July 23, 2017 09:10 AM (bc2Lc)

12 5 Reading about the D-Day invasion planning The Cross Channel Attack from the US Army Center of Military History. About 1/4 of the way through.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:06 AM (9g/6M)
===

Lots of interesting material in the official histories posted at the CMH site. I'm plowing through the WW2 Ordnance Corps volumes right now.

Posted by: Gref at July 23, 2017 09:11 AM (AMIL/)

13 You do need to get up awful early to beat me.

Posted by: Skip
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I was in the EMT with another tab open, hitting refresh every few seconds. I have another tab open playing music on YouTube. This morning is an uplifting trance kind of day so far, so I went on that to play a Nitrous Oxide track. He's from Poland, and he makes some nice music. So it's his fault. Besides, Poland isn't taking in its share of refugees and the whole country feels emboldened in its policy because of Trump's recent visit there. So it's Trump's fault.

(Can't be too down about it, however; not with "Red Moon Slide" playing.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:12 AM (zkGZ8)

14 Amazing what you can do with gray paint...Lots of gray paint.

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 09:12 AM (B3bgT)

15 Top 12!

Posted by: Weasel at July 23, 2017 09:12 AM (573j3)

16 Damnit!

Posted by: Weasel at July 23, 2017 09:13 AM (573j3)

17 "Do you know who *doesn't* complain about selling books he doesn't like? Jeff Bezos, that's who."

I seem to recall multiple instances of amazon mass censoring politically incorrect reviews it didn't like.

Not to mention Bezos' aggressive backing for a soft coup through his ownership of the Washington Post.

Posted by: cool breeze at July 23, 2017 09:13 AM (TKf/P)

18 Yay bookthread!

those Kerwin mysteries sound great - will hgave to blog them

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 23, 2017 09:13 AM (hMwEB)

19 You do need to get up awful early to beat me.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:07 AM (9g/6M)


I've noticed that!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 09:13 AM (gwPgz)

20 Good Sunday morning, horde! More rain in the forecast, good day for reading and baking.

Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 09:13 AM (e8PP1)

21 7 You do need to get up awful early to beat me.
Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:07 AM (9g/6M)

I don't do morning beatings anyway. Come back later.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 09:16 AM (0mRoj)

22 Morning everyone, do hope the top photo is merely an ink drawing of said edifice of learning.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 09:16 AM (678B2)

23 There must be some good Dunkirk books but none I have read, do have the journal from Purnell's History of the Second World War series on it. Might re read that before seeing the movie.
From memory after the German Army trapped the allies in the Dunkirk pocket they needed a pause in operations. Goring offered to grab the glory and talked Hitler into letting the Lutwaffen finish them off. Unsuccessfully as it turned out.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:16 AM (9g/6M)

24 I have a Kindle book on the German side of the invasion. All stories of the Germans (who lived through it) When the mighty guns of the battleships opened up and devastated the great concrete bunkers the Germans had. It was hell on earth for them....

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 09:16 AM (B3bgT)

25 This week I read the excellent The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt. Haidt is a moral psychologist who through his research developed a theory of a moral matrix with six foundations: care/harm, liberty/oppression, fairness/cheating, loyalty/betrayal, authority/subversion, and sanctity/degration. The liberal moral matrix is based mostly on the care/harm and liberty/oppression foundations with some thought to the fairness/ cheating one. On the other hand social conservatives draw on all six almost equally.

Haidt started out as a typical knee-jerk progressive who thought all things conservative were bad; but his research led him to see that the three moral foundations held by conservatives must be present in a society to obtain the maximum good for the maximum amount of people. Not an easy book to read, but well-worth the time. It gave me much insight as to why my progressive brother and I differ.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 23, 2017 09:16 AM (go62B)

26 We've started discussing Meditations on the group...

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 23, 2017 09:18 AM (hMwEB)

27 Here's a book I'm not reading: A Sand County Almanac by Aldo Leopold.

Everyone hails it as a seminal work of the conservation movement. I got it about fifteen years ago and read a few pages. I just tried to read it again. The introduction claims that one of its charms is Leopold's delightful writing style.

It's unreadable. Sanctimonious, smug, purple-prosy.

As an actual conservationist I hate the waste of pulp.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 09:19 AM (gIRsn)

28 Cambridge eh? Commies hiding among the shelves?

Posted by: BignJames at July 23, 2017 09:20 AM (x9c8r)

29 Still reading first Bosch novel. It's engaging enough that I cared when a witness was killed, but I still find Bosch to be awfully distant.

Reading "Feisty Fido" by Patricia McConnell for ideas on helping my dog remain calm when other dogs appear on the scene, especially when they appear suddenly.

Still reading the book explaining Catholic Bible concepts, all about God's various covenants with His people.

And I have just conceived of the idea of working on sight reading by going through the hymnal page by page. I have a little keyboard app on my Fire so I can pick out things to check myself. Sight-reading is endlessly frustrating and this is the first remotely reasonable idea I've come up with. Singing chords other than 1-3-5 is hard and then recognizing intervals in anything other than C is really hard.

Posted by: Tonestaple at July 23, 2017 09:20 AM (QqILu)

30 "The Blue Nile" by Alan Morehead

Those two books were my education on the early history of British exploration that area. Still on the bookcases upstairs.


In my readings I have discovered how to make the Sampo. Turns out it's not so easy:

http://tinyurl.com/yarsg563

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 09:20 AM (BO/km)

31 A lot of times, my allergies make me NIFFLE.


Mornin', ya lot of wildlings!

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 09:22 AM (/o9Qk)

32 Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads.
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Just signed up. A new discussion group started to share thoughts about "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. Some links (including free copies) are in the discussion thread.

(Huge shout-out to votermom and cool breeze for maintaining that group!)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:23 AM (zkGZ8)

33 Great book thread, Oregon Muse!

I do not read for edification, I read for amusement. Since I'm out of new reading material, I just finished Booth Tarkington's "Seventeen," and now I'm on to "Penrod." I've probably read each if them close to 100 times.

They are very funny and exquisitely written, and would never be published in today's environment of thought control and speech sanitization.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 23, 2017 09:23 AM (TdMsT)

34 Good Morning fellow Book Threadists and many thanks, as always and well deserved, to OM for this weekly foray into enjoyment.

It's been an interesting week of reading at Chez JTB.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 09:23 AM (V+03K)

35 1) I read The Imperial Governor by George Shipway because it had been recommended on the Book Thread a while back. It is a novel about Boudicca's rebellion in Roman Britannia from the point of view of the Governor, Suetonious Paulinus. Shipway does an excellent job of in portraying Roman attitudes and has brilliant phrasing at times. While there are accounts of fighting, the book is more a "memoir" in which Paulinus recounts his challenges in dealing with both Britons and Romans told in a blunt, earthy style that I found very believable. One thing that surpised me was, for a book published in 1968, Shipway dealt very frankly with the Roman attitudes towards homosexuality (i.e., they didn't care).

For me, a couple of minor points that I didn't like was that Shipway didn't use some correct Roman military terms and used modern British names of some of the locations, but that was probably done for ease of understanding for a broader audience. Conversely, he mentions "milliary" units repeatedly and expected his readers to know that he meant units of 1000 men, rather than the standard units of 500. All those issues could have been dealt with by a small glossary.

I really liked the book: rating = 4.5/5.

2) I also tried to read 1634: The Bavarian Crisis but it couldn't hold my interest. An Austrian princess doesn't want to go along with an arranged marriage; some strong female characters and discussion of religious freedom but BOOOORING. Rating = 2/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 09:23 AM (5Yee7)

36 Some Lunar reading since in 1969 two men from Earth safely landed on the Moon.

We Reach the Moon by John Wilford Noble
Men From Earth by Buzz Aldrin and Malcolm McConnell
The Last Man on the Moon by Eugene Cernan with Don Davis
A Man on the Moon by Andrew Chaikin

If its video, there is always the series The Moon Machines.
Episode 1 - Saturn V Rocket
https://youtu.be/o39UlJlMce8

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 09:26 AM (678B2)

37 But if he wants to swap titles, I suppose I could recommend books such as Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell or Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980 by Charles Murray. Both books go a long way to establish the intellectual and moral basis for free-market capitalism, and why, yes, indiscriminate welfare is actually harmful.

Trusting people with PhD's in relevant fields rather than a book store clerk? That's just crazy talk. We need to have a conversation.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 09:28 AM (/qEW2)

38 My niffles are hard.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 23, 2017 09:29 AM (89T5c)

39 Skip, re: Dunkirk: I've read a number of books about the 1940 campaign and haven't seen a consistent story emerge about how the Germans failed to grab the whole bag.

A few interesting things I do recall, on the Allied side:

Lord Gort did a terrific job looking ahead and getting the BEF in motion towards the coast early enough to avoid being cut off from any ports. But there had to be at least an unofficial fall guy for the Northern France and Belgium debacle, and Gort never commanded troops again.

The French were PO'd that more French troops were not evacuated from Dunkirk, and bitched about it. Churchill then did some dumb stuff to try and mollify them; I think sending 3 Division (?) to Calais where it was trapped and surrendered almost completely was one result.

Posted by: Gref at July 23, 2017 09:31 AM (AMIL/)

40 I read The Righteous Mind last year and found it very interesting and informative. Definitely helps explain the different worldviews of progressives and conservatives.

What's weird - I know a handful of progressives who have read the book and it confirmed their bias that progressives are morally superior, which I just don't understand. I think Haidt was trying to hard be neutral, but it's impossible to read the book and not conclude that conservatives are more balanced in how they view moral dilemmas.

Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 09:31 AM (QeLWM)

41 Finished the THE GREAT SIEGE: MALTA 1565

Good book the Knights of St. John were very brave men. Europe would be very different if they lost Malta to the Turks. They planned on using Malta as a stepping stone for an invasion of Italy.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 23, 2017 09:33 AM (dKiJG)

42 Fir-- ...

... nuts.

Posted by: FireHorse


fur nuts.

Posted by: attack squirrel at July 23, 2017 09:33 AM (/qEW2)

43 Probably the best cinematography of D-Day I know from the German perspective is the Longest Day when Hans Christian Blech is in his bunker and first sees the invasion then the fleet opens fire.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:35 AM (9g/6M)

44 So,

Is niffle a noun or a verb?

Posted by: Emmie at July 23, 2017 09:36 AM (ZapPq)

45 Remember in The Fifth Element that little pet thingy that Zorg had in his desk? I think Niffle would be the perfect name for it.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 09:38 AM (/o9Qk)

46 What I've read recently:

The Song of Annie Moses by Robin Wolaver, Christian musician/songwriter and founder of the Annie Moses Band. Autobiography beginning with her grandmother, a sharecropper who wanted the gift of music for her child, and progressing through the generations to Robin's 6 children, all of whom became musical prodigies.

Probably of more interest here:The God Players, by Phil Valentine, conservative talk show host and filmmaker. This novel explores the ramifications of discovering not only a "gay gene," but a procedure to alter the gene in utero. Fast-paced legal drama. Free for Kindle Unlimited, $2.99 to purchase.

Posted by: Rarity at July 23, 2017 09:39 AM (Zs7hr)

47 Niffle?

Niflheim, resident of?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 09:39 AM (678B2)

48 As the more cultured and morally superior among us are aware, next month's Goodreads Horde group book is Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations". Several of us have already started it. At least a few of us are using the Gregory Hays translation.

To say the book is interesting is a huge understatement. Aside from the value of Aurelius' words, it is throwing out many branches that cry out to be investigated. So far I've looked up an Emerson essay, Gray's poem "Elegy Written In A Country Churchyard", a couple of passages from Robert Heinlein books, and am acquiring other books by Greek and Roman philosophers that relate to Meditations. And I just finished the second book in the collection. My reading has been rich, contemplative and deliciously slow.

I'm dedicating a notebook to the references and thoughts resulting from this reading. There is too much to try to keep in mind.

Whether you join the Goodreads group discussion or not, give Meditations a look. It has been a delightful surprise.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 09:40 AM (V+03K)

49 Good morning Horde! My latest vintage book project is "Around the World in 72 Days" by Nellie Bly, the New York World reporter who in 1889 set out to beat the fictional circumnavigation record of Jules Verne's hero Phileas Fogg. It's a fun read and a great snapshot of the Victorian world at the time, plus, Bly was IMO a genuine "feminist" hero with a sense of class and dignity, not a special snowflake. If anyone told her something couldn't be done, or that she couldn't do it because she was a woman, she just went out and did it rather than complain about it.

Posted by: Secret Square at July 23, 2017 09:42 AM (9WuX0)

50 I received Hillbilly Elegy as a Christmas present from my Mom and just recently read it (fast read btw) and I really enjoyed it. I half expected it to contain today's modern day sjw drivel about why the hillbillys have it so hard. It didn't. The writer is himself of hillbilly stock and he made an honest examination of their culture and failings. One thing I found very interesting was the recruitment effort after the war by large steel companies where they'd go to the hills of KY and damn near hire the whole holler. I've always wondered why places like Lorain, OH (next community over from me) and Butler County,OH have such large hillbilly contingents. It's just something we've always referred to, but I never knew why.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at July 23, 2017 09:42 AM (pLB5t)

51 Highlights and lowlights from my reading in the last six months or so:

Best books:

The Black Obelisk by Erich Maria Remarque
The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression by Amity Shlaes
The Peloponnesian War by Donald Kagan

Biggest disappointments:

How The Irish Saved Civilization by Thomas Cahill
Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

Best horde-written books:

Hallow Mass by J.P. Mac
Life Unworthy by Christopher R. Taylor
The Hidden Truth by Hans G. Schantz
The Director's Cut by Christopher DiGrazia
A Flowershop in Baghdad by Michael Banzet

Politically incorrect fun:

People's Republic by Kurt Schlichter
Watch on the Rhine by John Ringo and Tom Kratman

Posted by: cool breeze at July 23, 2017 09:43 AM (TKf/P)

52 I read Elegy when it came out and disliked it greatly. It's just one big cliche. My biggest peeve is calling yourself a hillbilly when your grandparents left the hills when they were young teens, your parents weren't born in the hills, neither were you. Guess his San Francisco born kid is a hillbilly too.

Posted by: NCKate at July 23, 2017 09:44 AM (2R5JV)

53 What JTB said! (#4

Seriously: If you're even slightly interested in the practical side of philosophy, "Meditations" is a go-to work.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:44 AM (zkGZ8)

54 Just finished "Operation Mincemeat" by Ben MacIntyre. It's about the British plot to fool the Germans into thinking the Allies were invading via Greece and Sardinia instead of Sicily. Lots of players to keep track of (including Ian Fleming), but I thought it was a well-written, fascinating book.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at July 23, 2017 09:44 AM (YidHP)

55 Lawdog Files peaked at (I think) #87 on *all* of Amazon during the book bomb. I imagine Lawdog will have quite a hefty residual check coming soon.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 09:45 AM (17QyB)

56 This week I read the excellent The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt. Haidt is a moral psychologist who through his research developed a theory of a moral matrix with six foundations: care/harm, liberty/oppression, fairness/cheating, loyalty/betrayal, authority/subversion, and sanctity/degration. The liberal moral matrix is based mostly on the care/harm and liberty/oppression foundations with some thought to the fairness/ cheating one. On the other hand social conservatives draw on all six almost equally.

I do harm because I care! If you want liberty, you are OPPRESSING me!

Posted by: Professor Bikelock at July 23, 2017 09:45 AM (/qEW2)

57 Target Tokyo is another good book about the Dolittle raid. One of the reviews for the book is the son of the Co Pilot of the Ruptured Duck and he praised the book. I still think the Japanese were worse than the Germans, in terms of their inhumanity.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 23, 2017 09:45 AM (dKiJG)

58 Reading Frank Chadwick's "The Forever Engine" based on a Moron recommendation. So far, very good.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at July 23, 2017 09:47 AM (IJX6l)

59 I love Jules Verne so I will have to add that book to my list of ever growing list.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 23, 2017 09:48 AM (dKiJG)

60 I think calling yourself a hillbilly is valid if you're raised by them, albeit not in the hills of KY, and if you grow up in a community entirely populated by them. If you were born in Boston after the potato famine in Ireland and your parents were from Ireland, would you say you were Irish?

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at July 23, 2017 09:48 AM (pLB5t)

61 Y'all will never believe this:

Someone on the linked Twitter thread used niffle in a sentence to insult Trump.

Posted by: Emmie at July 23, 2017 09:49 AM (ZapPq)

62 Get ready for the next political piece of shit from HBO

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/270818/

Posted by: steevy at July 23, 2017 09:50 AM (rmVvL)

63 The Left would have book burning Bonfire parties if they could get away with it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 09:50 AM (IDPbH)

64 'Allo Book Horde! In book news I'm just about finished reading "The Siege of Sydney Street" by Donald Rumblelow. It's about Russian emigre terrorist attacks in London in 1910-11, and the police & Army attack on a stronghold in London. They were let in thanks to Britain's good-intentioned but short-sighted immigration policy. Sound familiar?

I finally picked up the first volume of Manchester's biography of Churchill, I've had vol. 2 for the longest time, but didn't read it since I didn't have vol. 1.


Posted by: josephistan at July 23, 2017 09:51 AM (ANIFC)

65 I read Basic Economics a few years ago and really enjoyed it.

Posted by: Emmie at July 23, 2017 09:51 AM (ZapPq)

66 I made a disturbing discovery this week. I was half way through the latest Numa Files novel by Clive Cussler, maybe 200 pages, and found I was bored. I mean bored to the point that I closed the book and returned it to the library. I've been a huge Cussler fan since his earliest books and still enjoy the Isaac Bell series. But the other series have become so predictable in approach, action, and characters that they don't keep my interest. Not sure if this denotes a change in me or the books or both.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 09:52 AM (V+03K)

67 Just got back from walking puppy. Walk, walk, run for 3 seconds, walk, repeat.
Fun but tiring.

great post on Meditations, JTB

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 09:53 AM (hMwEB)

68 @54 - I love Ben Macintyre's WWII books. I recently read Double Cross then passed it on to my dad. He complained about how hard it was to keep track of who's who because everybody had at least three names - their real name, German spy name, and British spy name - so he finished the book and then immediately reread it. He said he enjoyed it more the second time. I need to find a copy of Agent Zigzag for him. I think he'd really like it.

Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 09:54 AM (QeLWM)

69 Posted by: Secret Square at July 23, 2017 09:42 AM (9WuX0)

My wish list includes an out-of-print book by another early "feminist." The book is "What's a Woman Doing Here? A Combat Reporter's Report on Herself" by Dickey Chappelle. She took up war reporting in WWII, was captured crossing the Hungarian border and was imprisoned for a time there, attached herself to the Marines, who loved her dearly.

As wimmens go, she was kind of a badass, yet I'm sure she would not have aligned herself with feminists under any circumstances.

I found her book quite by accident in the Columbus library some years ago, and what great find it was.

Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 09:54 AM (e8PP1)

70 Not a hillbilly but perceived to be a coonass incorrectly by all the Northeastern HR departments I interviewed with. That's in spite of being raised by parents from NYC.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 09:54 AM (IDPbH)

71 'Someone on the linked Twitter thread used niffle in a sentence to insult Trump.'


If there were ever two words better suited to go together than "niffling twitter" I don't know what they are.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 09:55 AM (BO/km)

72 Any recommendations for books about Napoleon's campaigns in Italy? I'm surprised I don't have anything in my collection, and looking around online, I can only find a couple of reprints of contemporary accounts. Which is surprising considering how important the Italian campaign was to making Napoleon Napoleon.

Posted by: josephistan at July 23, 2017 09:55 AM (ANIFC)

73 I am waiting for the release of the book:

"Billionaires need help!" by Mark Cuban and Jeb Bush. Davos Press. 2019



Posted by: William Eaton at July 23, 2017 09:55 AM (MuTTO)

74 "Meditations" is a good book to read when going through a bad time. Eep, one that looks likely to stick around for a while.

Or, you are just generally feeling down about life and your place in it.

Not a rah-rah feel good book at all, but a serious meditation(!) on Life and one's place within the various aspects of it. And how to make your way though it all.

Great stuff.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 23, 2017 09:56 AM (9q7Dl)

75 73 I am waiting for the release of the book:

"Billionaires need help!" by Mark Cuban and Jeb Bush. Davos Press. 2019



Posted by: William Eaton at July 23, 2017 09:55 AM (MuTTO)

With a foreword by Elon Musk

Posted by: josephistan at July 23, 2017 09:57 AM (ANIFC)

76 Yes, Twitter is a true niffle. So is Facebook.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 09:57 AM (678B2)

77 I finished reading The Terror by Dan Simmons. Historical fiction about the lost Franklin expedition. Started out so good and then abruptly took a turn for the goofy near the end. Felt like I wasted a lot of time reading those 700 plus pages.

Posted by: Dang at July 23, 2017 09:57 AM (8b+oT)

78 >>>give Meditations a look.

I practice self-meditation. In fact, I'm practicing it right now. *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 23, 2017 09:59 AM (/qEW2)

79 66 I made a disturbing discovery this week. I was half way through the latest Numa Files novel by Clive Cussler, maybe 200 pages, and found I was bored. I mean bored to the point that I closed the book and returned it to the library. I've been a huge Cussler fan since his earliest books and still enjoy the Isaac Bell series. But the other series have become so predictable in approach, action, and characters that they don't keep my interest. Not sure if this denotes a change in me or the books or both.
Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 09:52 AM (V+03K)



I was told by the research librarian at my library that most of the big-name fiction writers no longer write their own books. A lot of the writing is hired out to ghost writers and can be very sub standard.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 23, 2017 09:59 AM (TdMsT)

80 Just finished P. D. James's "Death at Pemberley."

It's a murder mystery. Very enjoyable. I saw a film adaptation about a year ago that made, of course, Mrs. Darcy, nee Elizabeth Bennett, the sleuth. It's a fun take on what could have happened after Darcy weds Eliza and Bingley marries Jane.

There are even cameo references to characters in "Emma" and "Persuasion."


Posted by: JAS at July 23, 2017 10:00 AM (UnDQI)

81 For the second time I picked up and put down "Sherman - Memoirs of General W T Sherman".

Made it approx 300 pages in this time (beginning of the Civil War) but simply too much detail concerning, to my mind, mundane matters.

Probably my state of mind - I have too much going on that needs attention to devote the needed time to digest a 1000 page memoir properly.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 10:01 AM (tr2D7)

82 You can milk anything with niffles.

Posted by: Greg Fokker at July 23, 2017 10:02 AM (0mRoj)

83 Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 10:01 AM (tr2D7)

I'm sure you were surprised that he was the first President of LSU.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:02 AM (IDPbH)

84 One of the things I find fascinating about Meditations is knowing that Marcus Aurelius was writing this but by bit at night after a day of fighting in the boonies.

It would make a great model for a fictional character, either hero or villain, right?



Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 10:03 AM (hMwEB)

85

I have been niffling something fierce for at least the last two weeks.

Posted by: Malthe Leftwrench at July 23, 2017 10:03 AM (m9X4Y)

86 You can milk anything with niffles.

Posted by: Greg Fokker at July 23, 2017 10:02 AM (0mRoj)

Pipe?...w/threaded niffles?

Posted by: BignJames at July 23, 2017 10:04 AM (x9c8r)

87 I'm sure you were surprised that he was the first President of LSU.
Posted by: Jack Sock
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Yes! Very.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 10:05 AM (tr2D7)

88 "The Hangman's Daughter"

I highly recommend this book. I think it's the first of five in the series. I'm normally a military/techno thriller geek. I've never really thought about reading historical fiction. Amazon sent me a notification that I could "borrow" it as a Prime customer. I read the blurb and gave it a try.

Well worth the time and it doesn't leave you with the frustration of having to read the next book. Well researched and a very good translation to English.

4 star Amazon review.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 10:06 AM (38w5p)

89 Urban Dictionary says niffle means a nondescript and variable act of physical affection. Typically mild and/or gentle, but potentially quite intimate.

OED says To waste time or work slowly; to act in a trifling manner.

So, "my office mate and I were just niffling and the boss was nowhere in sight, so we shared a nice niffle."



Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:07 AM (gIRsn)

90 I started thumbing through a couple of books I have on restoring and maintaining hand tools for wood working. This started when I found a pair of vise grip pliers that have gotten pretty rusty. I haven't used them in a while but I do have some good quality wood working hand tools, some are usable antiques, and I should make sure they are in shape. Like cleaning guns, there is satisfaction in maintaining good tools. And using them for some small projects would be fun and give me a bit of needed exercise.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 10:08 AM (V+03K)

91 Speaking of books hard to complete. I put down Culture of Corruption by Michelle Malkin after about 50 pages. She needed a better editor.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:08 AM (IDPbH)

92 I second the recommendation for Lawdog Files. I read a couple of the better ones out loud to my family when they demanded, "What's so funny?"

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at July 23, 2017 10:09 AM (THS4q)

93 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:07 AM (gIRsn)

Sounds like limey speak.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:09 AM (IDPbH)

94 Because it was a joke-reference on a couple different episodes of MSST3K, I looked up 'The Group.' Turns out it was a feminist novel about a group of Ivy League college women dealing with abusive marriages, lesbianism, sexual harassment in the workplace, and abortion.

It was a NY Times bestseller... in 1933.

Third wave feminists think they invented all those issues, but their great-grandmothers were already whining about that crap when Herbert Hoover was president.

Posted by: V the K at July 23, 2017 10:10 AM (jn7FC)

95 Posted by: V the K at July 23, 2017 10:10 AM (jn7FC)

I felt bad about all the suffrage going on back then.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:12 AM (IDPbH)

96
Niffle (in my world) translates to doin jack squat and feeling no guilt about it whatsoever.

Good descriptor without resorting to vulgarity.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 23, 2017 10:13 AM (S/hVx)

97 Sounds like limey speak.


That was the 58th niffle reference in this thread and you're yelling at *me*?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:13 AM (gIRsn)

98 One of the things I find fascinating about Meditations is knowing that Marcus Aurelius was writing this but by bit at night after a day of fighting in the boonies.

I like biting butt at night too. Maybe I should write a book.

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 23, 2017 10:13 AM (/qEW2)

99 I felt bad about all the suffrage going on back then.
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**snort**

Posted by: lin-duh meh at July 23, 2017 10:16 AM (kufk0)

100 Finished the THE GREAT SIEGE: MALTA 1565

Good book the Knights of St. John were very brave men. Europe would be very different if they lost Malta to the Turks. They planned on using Malta as a stepping stone for an invasion of Italy.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

Verily. Jean is short for Jean Parisot de la Valette, my old LGF handle was delavalette and before that on various boards and bbs. Their role while Europe slept was critical.

Posted by: Jean at July 23, 2017 10:18 AM (9TU00)

101 "...and its callous claim that the welfare state only reinforces a cycle of dependency."

This is where progs lose the plot: "callous" is a feeling word. It doesn't dispute a factual claim. It simply assigns a feeling to an indisputable fact: the welfare state does indeed reinforce a cycle of poverty. But, it's a callous fact, so, ignore.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 23, 2017 10:18 AM (ty7RM)

102 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:13 AM (gIRsn)

Au Contraire . I'm just joining the conversation and adding that it is probably British in origin. I wouldn't yell at you Mr Snatch.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:20 AM (IDPbH)

103 Because it was a joke-reference on a couple different episodes of MSST3K, I looked up 'The Group.' Turns out it was a feminist novel about a group of Ivy League college women dealing with abusive marriages, lesbianism, sexual harassment in the workplace, and abortion.

Sexual harassment in the workplace by lesbians really sucks. But you need to grit your teeth, lie back, and think of Iran.

Posted by: Huma Abedin at July 23, 2017 10:20 AM (/qEW2)

104 Bandersnatch: "This was the 58th niffle reference and you're yelling at me?"

Posted by: Future Bandersnatch, wih Cybernetic at July 23, 2017 10:22 AM (l12Jm)

105 I assumed "fap" was limey speak before I learned that it was anime onomatopoeia.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:22 AM (gIRsn)

106 Speaking of books hard to complete.

"Team of Rivals." Doris Kerns-Goodwin should stick to giving knobbers. I was about 275 pages in, and Lincoln was just getting the nomination.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 23, 2017 10:23 AM (ty7RM)

107 79 ... "
I was told by the research librarian at my library that most of the big-name fiction writers no longer write their own books. A lot of the writing is hired out to ghost writers and can be very sub standard."

Cussler has been doing this for a while with the different series but he well into his eighties now, so not a surprise. His co-writers are talented authors and I can't say the writing is worse now. I think I'm just tired of the formula. Also, my reading interests have definitely shifted away from current day action/adventure novels.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (V+03K)

108 Since Hillary is busy writing her newest book (like hell) I'm sure her ghost writer is being well paid to write shit.....

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (B3bgT)

109 Team of Rivals was a good 400 page book crammed into 900 pages.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:25 AM (gIRsn)

110 JTB, one trick I use for removing rust is rubbing at it with aluminum foil with a few drops of water.
The rust usually transfers to the foil.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 10:25 AM (hMwEB)

111 Morning everyone, do hope the top photo is merely an ink drawing of said edifice of learning.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 09:16 AM (678B2)

Those bookshelves look awfully thick. As though you could open a secret door in the end, and find an orgy going on inside.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 10:25 AM (XUcIQ)

112 105 I assumed "fap" was limey speak before I learned that it was anime onomatopoeia.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:22 AM (gIRsn)

AOS is what I imagine the Great Library of Alexandria was like for knowledge.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:27 AM (IDPbH)

113 This is where progs lose the plot: "callous" is a feeling word. It doesn't dispute a factual claim. It simply assigns a feeling to an indisputable fact: the welfare state does indeed reinforce a cycle of poverty. But, it's a callous fact, so, ignore.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 23, 2017 10:18 AM (ty7RM)


Rank-and-file Progs are all about the feelz not the results. Leadership Progs merely mask their will for power and money with blather about "equality."

The Righteous Mind sounds interesting although I don't know if I agree that Leftists think about a Liberty/Oppression scale; I would say their measure would be Individuality/Sameness (Equality).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 10:28 AM (5Yee7)

114 Those bookshelves look awfully thick. As though you could open a secret door in the end, and find an orgy going on inside.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 10:25 AM (XUcIQ)

Interesting observation on the pic. of the Cambridge library......Open the secret door and its all Technicolor inside...

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 10:28 AM (B3bgT)

115 Sorry to mention politics so early on the book thread, but couldn't help but notice that Jeb! has called out Republicans for "remaining silent" on the Russia probe into Trump.

And I don't think he meant that they should be more vocal in telling the media to move on.

Posted by: RM at July 23, 2017 10:29 AM (U3LtS)

116 That's in spite of being raised by parents from NYC.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 09:54 AM (IDPbH)


Youse gots ta woik on the accent.

Posted by: Insects Rabbit at July 23, 2017 10:30 AM (/qEW2)

117 onomatopoeia
I don't wanna
see ya
speakin' in a
foreign tongue


sorry

Posted by: BignJames at July 23, 2017 10:31 AM (x9c8r)

118 I seem to recall multiple instances of amazon mass censoring politically incorrect reviews it didn't like.

Not to mention Bezos' aggressive backing for a soft coup through his ownership of the Washington Post.

Posted by: cool breeze at July 23, 2017 09:13 AM (TKf/P


I believe this to be an unproven allegation. I've seen reviews suddenly disappear, but I don't think they're limited to just conservative ones.

Why the number of reviews on a book suddenly goes from 900 to 700 is a bit of a mystery, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 10:32 AM (OiLIO)

119 108 Since Hillary is busy writing her newest book (like hell) I'm sure her ghost writer is being well paid to write shit.....
Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (B3bgT)

Is that really true? Is Hillary writing another book?

It baffles me that publishers insist on wasting trees and money on books that will hit the remainder bins in three months and disappear from memory within a year.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at July 23, 2017 10:32 AM (nBr1j)

120 For the aviation minded like Mike Hammer is about World War II, I would avoid the book Bf-109 Aces of North Africa and the Mediterranean by Jerry Schutts as published by Osprey.

Cover art is of Gelb 14 flown by Hans Joachim Marseille of JG27. Overall the depiction is correct with RLM78 upper and RLM79 under surface with white theater markings except the artist omitted the yellow undercowl of the DB-601E. This omission is repeated in the Color Illustrations section for all JG27 aircraft but is shown for JG53 Friedrichs and Gustavs.

On pg 28 of the book is a photo of Marseille seated in the cockpit with a Black Crow strapping him in. The caption says this might be a photo of Marseille in the Bf-109G-2 that killed him. Except it isn't, in fact in Franz Kurowski's book German Fighter Ace Hans-Joachim Marseille on page 129 is an uncropped version of the picture that clearly shows Marseille is seated in one of the Bf-109F-4/Trops with Kennziffer Gelb 14. Kitchens and Beaman in their book The Luftwaffe Ritterkreuztrager 1939-145: Hans Joachim Marseille identify this plane as Bf-109F04/Trop Werkenummer 10059 in which Marseille scored victories 52 to 75.

So in other words be wary when using this book. Though everything in regards to Marseille has to be carefully studied since I just noticed a possible typo or two in the Kitchens/Beaman book.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 10:34 AM (678B2)

121 Any GoT fans know why the bookshelves in the great library have chains over them?

Posted by: josephistan at July 23, 2017 10:35 AM (ANIFC)

122 Just finished "ENGINEER TO WIN - The Essential Guide To Racing Car Materials Technology" by Carroll Smith.

Kind of a folksy, layman's guide to mechanical engineering by a layman as it applies to his profession (building race cars and running them).

You'd probably have to be deeply into racing to enjoy this OR be deeply into metals and mechanical engineering (my case)

This is my second book this year, which is probably a record for this century. I thank and credit the Book Thread for that.

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 10:35 AM (kuiuS)

123 My biggest peeve is calling yourself a hillbilly when your grandparents left the hills when they were young teens, your parents weren't born in the hills, neither were you. Guess his San Francisco born kid is a hillbilly too.
Posted by: NCKate at July 23, 2017 09:44 AM (2R5JV)


Hey, San Francisco has hills, too, ya know:

Telegraph Hill, Nob Hill, Russian Hill, Rincon Hill, Twin Peaks, Mount Davidson and Mount Sutro.

Seven hills. Like Rome, I guess.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 10:35 AM (OiLIO)

124 110 ... "JTB, one trick I use for removing rust is rubbing at it with aluminum foil with a few drops of water.
The rust usually transfers to the foil."

Hi votermom, That's a new one for me. I'll have to try it. Even if it just starts the process, it would be useful. Thanks.

One advantage of being obsessive about firearm maintenance, especially black powder guns, is I have plenty of materials that will keep other tools in good working order once they are cleaned up.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (V+03K)

125 Jeb! has called out Republicans for "remaining silent" on the Russia probe into Trump.

Heh... Senor Yeb! needs to go away. He and the rest of the Shrubs are still butt-hurt he didn't get the Republican nomination. He could probably do with reading Aurelius's Meditations himself.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (5Yee7)

126 Sorry to mention politics so early on the book thread, but couldn't help but notice that Jeb! has called out Republicans for "remaining silent" on the Russia probe into Trump.

And I don't think he meant that they should be more vocal in telling the media to move on.

Posted by: RM


*sigh*

http://nypost.com/2017/07/22/jeb-calls-out-gop-for-backing-trump-amid-russia-scandals/

He is such an assclown. I can't figure out if he's a dyed-in-the-wool liberal, or an opportunistic idiot who thinks he can win the love of liberals by supporting their views, or just a spiteful little beotch.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (/qEW2)

127 Bander. Guess where I am.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (sTBcq)

128 It baffles me that publishers insist on wasting trees and money on books that will hit the remainder bins in three months and disappear from memory within a year.

It's like speaking fees: the whole publishing thing is a way to game payoffs to hack politicians. It's simply money laundering, keeping her fat ass rolling in dough. In 3, 2, 1: "My Life with a Weiner" by Humid Abdomen.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 23, 2017 10:37 AM (ty7RM)

129 The book I put down after a 100 pages or so and never have finished is one that people rave about being the best of that genre. If I was that kind of person it might make me question myself.

Lucifer's Hammer


It's been a few years. I might give it another shot .

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:37 AM (IDPbH)

130 Read an interesting though failed ( i believe) novel by Richard Condon ("The Manchurian Candidate", "Prizzi's Honor") titled,

"The Whisper of the Axe"


The story is about a Black woman, Angela Teel, who institutes a plan to destroy America through widespread, well-funded, and unrelenting terrorism starting on July 4, 1976.

She's an interesting character for this reason: she isn't trying to build anything at all. She just wants to punish everybody. Whites because of the way they set up society and Blacks because they take the way society is set up. She simply wants society burned to the ground and millions killed and doesn't worry about what follows because she assumes it will be better....or worse. She doesn't care but everyone will be punished.

This gives a somewhat contemporary feel to "TWotA" as her plan more or less mimics the Left's current obsession to culturally burn the West and American society to the ground through mutually contradictory actions, beliefs, and violence. With no thought or plan of what is to follow, except they assume, that they will be on top.

The bulk of the book is concerned with how she sets up her plan, which involves financing through drug sales and terrorist training/brainwashing in camps set inside Communist China.

Necessarily, this involves a lot of Telling and not Showing, which is simultaneously boring and a lot of fun as the funhouse version Condon presents of America seems all too real after a while. Esp. the massive corruption existing in Washington DC and among "Our Betters".

Condon establishes a lot of characters who you believe will have important parts to play but then just as the novel gets going, just as the action is coming down to the wire,

he short circuits it all with some silly decisions by his characters to come up with a "twist" that's not really a twist and whoops-a-daisy! the book ends.

This reads like a novel, which Condon got tired of writing so he bails out.

Cuz "TWotA" is all build up and no climax.

I guess he wrote the most interesting part for him (the burning down plot?) and had no real interest in wrapping things up dramatically. Probably would've meant writing 100-200 pages more.

Anyway, interesting idea which by the end feels like it could happen, spotty execution, lazy ending.

I can't really recommend it, but it's an interesting failure if that appeals to you.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 23, 2017 10:38 AM (9q7Dl)

131 I read an SBS book about Nellie Bly many, many years ago when in elementary school. Among other doors she knocked down, she stayed undercover in one of the day's charming asylums and then wrote about it.

Even at the time, I remember thinking she must have been one amazing, brave person.

She should be (and perhaps is) on the short list of any profile in courage type compilation.

Posted by: RM at July 23, 2017 10:39 AM (U3LtS)

132 Why the number of reviews on a book suddenly goes from 900 to 700 is a bit of a mystery, though.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 10:32 AM (OiLIO)

I think generally Amazon is pretty honest and carries all the books....I see Milo's book is on the NYT's best seller list. I guess Barns and Nobel doesn't carry the book though....

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 10:40 AM (B3bgT)

133 Dismissal if the working class's material reality.

When progs start complaining about someone else dismissing reality, it's time to pop the corn and settle down with a good book.

Posted by: Simplemind at July 23, 2017 10:41 AM (ZuGkg)

134 Is it The Times bestseller list that only surveys independent book stores, or do I have that mixed up?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 23, 2017 10:42 AM (ty7RM)

135 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (/qEW2)

I read a blurb somewhere that Jeb! is suspected of initiating pee-pee papers.

Posted by: BignJames at July 23, 2017 10:42 AM (x9c8r)

136 I think there are fake reviews and fake clicks that Amazon tries to crack down on.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 23, 2017 10:42 AM (hMwEB)

137 Just finished "ENGINEER TO WIN - The Essential Guide To Racing Car Materials Technology" by Carroll Smith. "

Oh wow. Get your hands on his "Nuts and Bolts" book.

And the Bosch automotive handbook. ..

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 10:45 AM (MINbv)

138 126,
Embrace the power of "and"...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 10:46 AM (MINbv)

139 Alexa!

Using our list "Trump Targets and Supporters", and confining your search to the Beltway, compile transcripts for this week of any conversations using the words "Russia" or "Putin".

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at July 23, 2017 10:48 AM (OBJWS)

140 Germans didn't have logistics to do more to trap allied armies. End of tether.

Posted by: mudd at July 23, 2017 10:48 AM (HJL0m)

141 127 Bander. Guess where I am.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (sTBcq)



Well, the question answers itself. Lucky girl.

Now, let's talk about why you're in the book thread hiding from the in-laws.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:49 AM (gIRsn)

142 I really like the Harry Bosch novels. Yes, he comes off as a bit edgy/chilly/emotionless.

I have read most of them. I have several in storage and am buying the new ones on Kindle Due to the storage issue, I may have missed a few.

In any case, the Bosch novel that I think is most recent features Bosch working with his relative, who is a very out of the box attorney (introduced in "The Lincoln Lawyer").

My sense is that as the Bosch novels have been written, Harry is also evolving as a more sympathetic human being.

Posted by: RM at July 23, 2017 10:49 AM (U3LtS)

143 Lucifer's Hammer


It's been a few years. I might give it another shot .

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:37 AM (IDPbH)


I read it once, 30 (?) years ago and no urge to ever read it again. Part of problem is that the book it too long and too many character threads AND I stopped caring about them.

Contrast that to Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank (rather than an asteroid, it's post-nuke societal collapse). Much shorter book and fewer characters to follow: primarily the ex-Marine officer and his family. The decisions made by the characters in Frank's book "ring true" to me and I have re-read that book numerous times and generally like the residents of Fort Repose, Florida.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 10:50 AM (5Yee7)

144 >>>She's an interesting character for this reason: she isn't trying to build anything at all. She just wants to punish everybody.

Yes. When it comes to America, I think most liberals are into "repeal and replace".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 10:51 AM (/qEW2)

145
Finished reading Escaping the Trap: The US Army X Corps in Northeast Korea, 1950, by Roy E. Applebaum. The story Chosin Reservoir battles by both the Marines and the Army are recounted, followed by the subsequent withdrawal of all UN forces from NE Korea in December 1950.

Very detailed retelling with some interesting "what if" scenarios offered up at the end. With better communications, the Chinese forces may have been able to destroy the better part of their opponents' forces in the vicinity of the reservoir. With a little less hubris and headstrong behavior, MacArthur might have left his forces in a better position to repel the Chinese and fare better in the fighting yet to come. Recommended.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 10:52 AM (pNxlR)

146 Expect anti-trump narrative to implode. Federal budget is their holy script and Trump knows it.

Posted by: mudd at July 23, 2017 10:52 AM (HJL0m)

147 Well time to get ready for work. Tschuss.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 23, 2017 10:52 AM (678B2)

148 Bandersnatch: "this was the 58th niffle reference you are yelling at me?"

Whew. For a minute there, we all wondering if you were going bite on that. But I told everyone, hey just be patient, I know the guy like the back of my hand. He will make the niffle reference and, like a butterfly's flapping of wings, will save this timeline.

Oh sorry, just sit back and appreciate all the effort put into this venture - from the seemingly random introduction of the term niffle, to all the extras (thanks guys you can knock off for the day) each dropping the word niffle into the conversation, like synchonized swimmers passing over and under and through each other 58 times, and then the hush of anticipation as the window approached and , for a brief but terrifying moment there, almost slammed shut.

But you said the word! And we slammed the door shut, like a lion tamer who's rampaging beast miracously stepped back in the cage. Well done!

Shorter - it was vital to this particular reality that you felt unfairly oppressed. You'll understand why later (again, butterfly wings) but you just saved Scranton Ohio, and in doing so saved the world.

Sorry to be so scatterbrained, but this was our 5th iteration of stopgaping a fix to the timeline, and some of our less level heads were ready to nuke the entire node and start from scratch back at the Crab Nebula. Can you believe it? Some people. Smh.

Also psst! When your old buddy from college asks you to ride shotgun for a double date with a set of red head twins, DONT DO IT. Those girls are vampires. Litterally vampires.

Catch up with me soon. Ha ha.

Posted by: Future Bandersnatch, wih Cybernetic at July 23, 2017 10:53 AM (l12Jm)

149 Why the number of reviews on a book suddenly goes from 900 to 700 is a bit of a mystery, though.


Posted by: OregonMuse at July 23, 2017 10:32 AM

My guess is that Amazon weeds out the reviews from people who didn't buy the book from them.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at July 23, 2017 10:53 AM (THS4q)

150 137
Just finished "ENGINEER TO WIN - The Essential Guide To Racing Car Materials Technology" by Carroll Smith. "



Oh wow. Get your hands on his "Nuts and Bolts" book.



And the Bosch automotive handbook. ..

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 10:45 AM (MINbv)

I'm saving this comment for gifts for son at Christmas. Thank you!

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 23, 2017 10:54 AM (Enq6K)

151 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 10:36 AM (/qEW2)
I read a blurb somewhere that Jeb! is suspected of initiating pee-pee papers.
Posted by: BignJames at July 23, 2017 10:42 AM (x9c8r)

Yup....not surprised. Jeb! is still all mesmerized by bodily functions, their sound, smell and texture.

Jeb! 2020....because it's never too late to learn a foreign language.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 23, 2017 10:54 AM (5VlCp)

152
She needed a better editor.


Malkin always needs a better editor. Ditto for any columnist who packages their routinely issued screeds into a "timely and pertinent" book. I've learned not to bother caring about reading, much less buying, such offerings.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 10:56 AM (pNxlR)

153 So I've read enough John Lange "Norman", Tarnsman of Gor to reach a conclusion.

Norman is trying to do Edgar Rice Burroughs, except with moar chains and whips. His world, Gor, is a Lagrange Point Counter-Earth with lower gravity and (somehow) two more moons than us. Every nation here lives by a strict code of domination and subsmission.

So the hero gets captured and tortured a lot. There are also women; they get captured a lot too. Highly stylised rituals of subjection are performed.

I'm not sure what the stakes are here. The cities rise and fall based on a game of Capture The Flag, the flag being a useless inscripted stone. They don't really do battles on the field, unless a city has lost their stone, after which point armies come to take command of the disoriented mob.

On another note, a few years ago I'd also bought Spinrad's The Iron Dream. This too had stylised rituals of domination and submission. Except that Spinrad was mocking it. At the time I thought it a colossal straw-man. Well, now at least I know what Spinrad was mocking.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 10:57 AM (6FqZa)

154
Jeb! has called out Republicans for "remaining silent" on the Russia probe into Trump.


Health care billionaire and GOP donor Mike Fernandez said Thursday that, had he been a doctor at the time, he would have killed President Donald Trump as a baby.

Like many other GOP members, Fernandez joined the “Never-Trump” protests during the election, and put more than $3.5 million into anti-Trump ads in 2016. He also donated $3 million to former candidate Jeb Bush’s campaign.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 23, 2017 10:58 AM (IqV8l)

155 Back in the 80s, there was a book called "The Myth of Heterosexual Aids". At the time, Conventional Wisdom held that soon, literally, 20% of the entire world's population would die because of Heterosexual aids.

The book strongly (and correctly) dismissed that idea. I went to a major chain bookstore and asked to buy five copies. The clerk assured me no such book existed. I pointed out that it was advertised on the Rush Limbaugh Show.

He laughed in my face.

I went behind the counter, looked on his computer screen and showed him that the book store ordered 520 copies. He said there were in other locations of the chain.

I went to five other book stores. At the fifth, I found all 520 copies - hidden in a dark corner with a tarp thrown over them.

And bookstores wonder why they're going out of business.

Posted by: Ron Stanford at July 23, 2017 10:58 AM (/R4ru)

156 Now, let's talk about why you're in the book thread hiding from the in-laws.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 23, 2017 10:49 AM (gIRsn)
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Ha. I am just waiting for everyone to get their stuff together. We are going for lunch in Deluxbury.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 10:58 AM (sTBcq)

157 Haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this is repeating what someone else has already said.

Dunkirk. I am currently reading my way through Winston Churchill's 6-vol history of WWII. Regarding Dunkirk: he says that the Germans *were* bombing the evacuees, or trying to, but didn't succeed because (1) lots of the bombs just landed in the sand or the water, and buried themselves there harmlessly, and (2) the RAF harassed the shit out of them, shot them down, and kept them at bay.

OK, maybe "harmless" isn't the word I want. But the fact is they didn't blow up, which was a Good Thing.

Posted by: Annalucia at July 23, 2017 10:59 AM (a5bF3)

158 "Why the number of reviews on a book suddenly goes from 900 to 700 is a bit of a mystery, though.


Posted by: OregonMuse at July 23, 2017 10:32 AM"

I just finished an obscure book that I bought solely on the basis of Amazon recommendations and because it was cheap on Amazon. I was leery and turned out to be right. It was bad. The positive reviews almost all had a certain sameness.

Maybe they are somehow trying to police the reviews from love bombs (or hate bombs), but I am not sure how they could do that without introducing subjectivity and bias into their own attempt to ensure an honest forum.

Posted by: RM at July 23, 2017 11:00 AM (U3LtS)

159 I bought the poems of John Donne on Audible this week...only $3.96.
The narrator is Richard Burton (I assume the actor, not the explorer.) So my favourite poet and a great voice. It should be good.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at July 23, 2017 11:01 AM (nBr1j)

160 Health care billionaire and GOP donor Mike Fernandez
said Thursday that, had he been a doctor at the time, he would have
killed President Donald Trump as a baby.



Like many other GOP members, Fernandez joined the
"Never-Trump" protests during the election, and put more than $3.5 million into
anti-Trump ads in 2016. He also donated $3 million to former candidate
Jeb Bush's campaign.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 23, 2017 10:58 AM (IqV8l)

Who says shit like that?

Yeah, Trump's the one with an issue. Dude....get a mirror.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 23, 2017 11:03 AM (Enq6K)

161 Olivia Koski and Jana Grcevich, Vacation Guide to the Solar System: Science for the Savvy Space Traveler! is a bite-sized overview of this solar-system's highlights based on the latest findings and colonisation speculation.

Ten years ago a Brit, Giles Sparrow, wrote a Traveler's Guide to the Solar System. It was shorter, probably because less had been found or (properly) envisioned. So K&G gives us Pluto, the bright spots on Ceres, and the clouds of Venus.

However I still recommend Sparrow over K&G. Sparrow was funnier and had more pictures.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 11:03 AM (6FqZa)

162 So I've read enough John Lange "Norman", Tarnsman of Gor to reach a conclusion.

Norman is trying to do Edgar Rice Burroughs, except with moar chains and whips. His world, Gor, is a Lagrange Point Counter-Earth with lower gravity and (somehow) two more moons than us. Every nation here lives by a strict code of domination and submission.


Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 10:57 AM (6FqZa)


I read that book in 7th-8th grade many moons ago. I liked it but got tired of the series after a while and Norman got way more into the whole "women are sex-toys thing."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 11:04 AM (5Yee7)

163 My wife (the lovely and gracious Annalucia) and I read books aloud to each other: I read while she cooks dinner, and she reads while I do the dishes afterwards. Right now, we're reading "Heads and Tales," which is an autobiography of sorts by Malvina Hoffman, the sculptor who created the Hall of Man busts that are now on display in Chicago's Field Museum. Her stories are fascinating, particularly when she writes about her around-the-world trip to create the sculptures in the Hall of Man exhibit. Also, as a young artist, she studied with Rodin, and her reminiscences of the great man are well worth reading. Likewise, her description of how bronze casting was done, from prehistoric times up to the advent of 3D printing, is absolutely fascinating. Hoffman's work is deprecated nowadays, a victim of the PC plague, but anyone with eyes to see knows that she was a gifted artist with a sensitive eye, a sure hand, and a heart filled with empathy for the people whose portraits she was creating.

By the way, "Heads and Tales" was published in Britain as "A Sculptor's Odyssey" -- same book, different titles.

As for "Lucifer's Hammer," I found the second half -- how the survivors organize themselves, and the attack of the cannibal hordes, to be *meh*. There, Niven and Pournelle let themselves climb on the soapbox 'way too often. But the first half, from the discovery of the comet through Hammerfall, is riveting. I was given a copy for my birthday when it was first published, and I sat up through the night reading it: I literally could not put it down.

Posted by: Brown Line at July 23, 2017 11:04 AM (a5bF3)

164 Northern Lurker, 119, prompted me to go look at abebooks.com for anything by Hillary Clinton. The first five books, four of which were "Living History," were going for $3.48 with free shipping. Given that amazon.com almost always shows a shipping charge of $3.99, this means we are being paid to please, please, please, we're begging you, please take this waste of space off the seller's hands.

It's tempting. I could spend between now and eternity* regaling the book thread with the wit and wisdom of the egregious Mrs. Clinton.

*Defined as "the second I get banned."

Posted by: Tonestaple at July 23, 2017 11:06 AM (QqILu)

165 Health care billionaire and GOP donor Mike Fernandez said Thursday that, had he been a doctor at the time, he would have killed President Donald Trump as a baby.

That's kind of redundant. The liberal definition of health care is killing babies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 11:07 AM (/qEW2)

166 Oh wow. Get your hands on his "Nuts and Bolts" book.

And the Bosch Automotive Handbook. ..


Thanks, those both look good. I liked Smith's style of going over a technical subject (my field) as it related to something I have no clue about (racing). More entertaining that way.

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 11:07 AM (pszv/)

167 Norman doesn't actually treat the woman as a sex toy in Tarnsman. She has agency and tries to escape several times. Until she finds out how much worse all the other men are. Then she begs for slavery.

I could have gone along with it if there hadn't been so much BDSM in the rest of the book.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 11:08 AM (6FqZa)

168
My use of published reviews at any commercial site is simply this: read the negative ones to find out what is wrong with the product. Act accordingly.

Sycophants who suffer from terminal lip-lock on authors' dangly appendages typically have nothing useful to offer regarding the quality of the product being sold.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 11:08 AM (pNxlR)

169 Although, it's not nearly as bad as the Mord Sith in Terry Goodkind's book. Where the hell did that come from?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 11:09 AM (6FqZa)

170 good morning, booklovers.

Before I go read the comments, I wanted to tell you that a few days after President Trump's election, Hillbilly Elegy's author came to the liberal arts college here. I attended his remarks.

Also, another book that explains why Trump: Boom, Bust, Exodus: The Rust Belt, The Maquilas, and a Tale of Two Cities, which I'm reading now. It's about the closing of Maytag in Galesburg, where I'm from, and the plant's removal to Mexico in 2004.

Posted by: booknlass at July 23, 2017 11:09 AM (6Xf+s)

171 Josephistan - sorry, got here late, hope yr still here.

OK, if you are a real fan... there's a two-volume book entitled, "Napoleon as a General" by Count Yorck von Wartenburg ("Colonel of the General Staff of the Prussian Army"). Edited and published by a Major Walter H. James, the seventh book of the "Wolesey Series." It is undated, no publishing house. my guess, around the turn of the century - 1897ish. In 1942, the US Army Department of Military Art and Engineering, USMA West Point published an accompanying (and highly detailed) map book. I inherited all three and have set them aside, waiting for a free decade so I can meticulously follow the Scourge.

Good luck.


Posted by: goatexchange at July 23, 2017 11:11 AM (YFnq5)

172 >>Ha. I am just waiting for everyone to get their stuff together. We are going for lunch in Deluxbury.

Lucky you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

173 I went to five other book stores. At the fifth, I found all 520 copies - hidden in a dark corner with a tarp thrown over them.

And bookstores wonder why they're going out of business.

Posted by: Ron Stanford


Heh. Reminds me of HGG. "With a sign in front of it saying 'Beware of the leopard'".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 11:12 AM (/qEW2)

174 I read Gor books in grade school iirc. Coz I would read anything. My mom had no idea.

Anyway, what I remember to this day is his description of how to break the will of a slave and make her loyal.

Basically keep them head down for a couple of days, treated coldly/cruelly by others. Then the one who was gonna be her permanent master would come release her so she could have eye contact for the first time in days with another human, and she would be scared, but the master must smile kindly. So that feeling of relief would translate into devotion.

I remember it because as a kid that just struck me as so evil.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 11:12 AM (hMwEB)

175 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 10:50 AM (5Yee7)

Thanks I'll put that on my list. I love this genre.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 11:13 AM (IDPbH)

176 "I liked Smith's style of going over a technical subject (my field) as it related to something I have no clue about (racing). More entertaining that way. "

It has surely been discussed here, but I had the same reaction when I read The Great Bridge by David McCullough (sp?). It is about the construction of the Brooklyn Bridge and takes it from concept all the way to completion.

If it sounds dry, it isn't. The design and work that went into the caissons is "like, totally insane, dude". Just putting it that way because I had NO idea of what was involved and it was a real eye opener.

Posted by: RM at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (U3LtS)

177 So K&G gives us Pluto, the bright spots on Ceres, and the clouds of Venus.

Pluto is NOT a credentialed planet, by the way. Venus has nothing to do with Pluto (*ptui!*), and these attempts to 'associate' the two are rank subversion.

Posted by: SJW Astronomers at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (kuiuS)

178 More entertaining that way. "

Indeed. FWIW, the Bosch Automotive Handbook series is the least possible entertaining prose ever written. Dry German techo translated to English...

Which of course, means that I buy each edition upon release and read it cover to cover.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (MINbv)

179 Hasn't that Gor series of books been around since, approximately, forever? I remember seeing them as a high-schooler.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (XUcIQ)

180 Norman doesn't actually treat the woman as a sex toy in Tarnsman. ...
I could have gone along with it if there hadn't been so much BDSM in the rest of the book.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 11:08 AM (6FqZa)


Tarnsman of Gor is ERB with sex. The later books in the series got way more into BDSM. I stopped reading them after about the 6th or 7th book; the sexual subjugation stuff was getting way too weird for me and I was teenaged boy that was very interested in that whole sexual intercourse thing!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (5Yee7)

181 145 Finished reading Escaping the Trap: The US Army X Corps in Northeast Korea, 1950, by Roy E. Applebaum. The story Chosin Reservoir battles by both the Marines and the Army are recounted, followed by the subsequent withdrawal of all UN forces from NE Korea in December 1950.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
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In a similar vein, not long ago finished The Last Stad of Fox Company by Drury and Clavin. Covers a slice of the broader retirement mentioned above but from the perspective of Fox Co./7th Marines. Very highly recommended.

My Dad joined the 7th Marines as a Navy Corpsman in '51 and was with them until wounded twice during the Vegas/Carson/Reno Outpost fighting in '53.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (tr2D7)

182 163 My wife (the lovely and gracious Annalucia) and I read books aloud to each other: I read while she cooks dinner, and she reads while I do the dishes afterwards.

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that is so incredibly sweet

*melts into puddle of goo*

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (hMwEB)

183 Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)

Final today in Newport at the only grass court tournament in the USA.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (IDPbH)

184 A little late this morning because I stayed up playing Shenzhen I/O...

Proof copy of my first book arrived and is being checked by the wife (I'm away from home). Next to last 'alpha reader' feedback was very positive. Gamed out pricing, and have a kick-ass cover that everyone seems to love, and people are signing up a mailing list. Looking at going live in September.

It's gonna happen.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (n1dE4)

185 Lucky you.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:12 AM (/tuJf)
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I know, right?

Beautiful here today.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (u4NIS)

186 Lucifer's Hammer

It's been a few years. I might give it another shot .
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:37 AM (IDPbH)

===

Dad loved it and insisted I read it when it came out. Its a soap opera and it sucked. No wonder they made soapy movies about the idea.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 23, 2017 11:15 AM (JvZF+)

187 Read Crichton's Rising Sun, where detectives investigate the murder of a young woman at an L.A. party for a Japanese corporation. The theme is Japan controlling the world economy, which used to be a popular topic. Liked the story and characters, the usual infodumps pop up now and then, good book.

Posted by: waelse1 at July 23, 2017 11:15 AM (+7KtG)

188 We are going for lunch in Deluxbury. "

So I traveled to NoVA a few days back, and who's not there?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 11:15 AM (MINbv)

189 Congrats Apostate!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 11:15 AM (hMwEB)

190 182 163 My wife (the lovely and gracious Annalucia) and I read books aloud to each other: I read while she cooks dinner, and she reads while I do the dishes afterwards.

--

that is so incredibly sweet

*melts into puddle of goo*
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (hMwEB)

Ewwww. Somebody get a mop!

Posted by: Insomniac - Not Disappointed, Just Angry at July 23, 2017 11:15 AM (0mRoj)

191 >>I know, right?

>>Beautiful here today.

It's always beautiful where you are heading.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:16 AM (/tuJf)

192 So I traveled to NoVA a few days back, and who's not there?
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 11:15 AM (MINbv)
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You declined to bring Bluebell ice cream, so I skedaddled.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 11:16 AM (u4NIS)

193 The theme is Japan controlling the world economy, which used to be a popular topic"

It's kinda fun reading the "pop lit" of different eras and reading of the concerns that filled the airwaves...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 11:17 AM (MINbv)

194 The design and work that went into the caissons is...

Crap, I'm a sucker for physical books. That's a third recommendation to pop into my Amazon cart today...

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 11:17 AM (zEjuG)

195 One aspect of "Meditations" reinforces an attitude I reached a few years ago: don't bother with books about current politics or, especially, political figures. These books typically give new depth to the term ephemeral. That decision has saved me a lot of time and money.

I was reminded about this after the latest Jeb! upchuck criticizing Republicans for not going after Trump and the Russia BS. This disdain also applies to the 'smart' people and their 'smart' million dollar donations that were wasted on a dunce. There are so many matters I can pursue that will make me better informed, hopefully a better person. These clowns ain't it.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 11:18 AM (V+03K)

196 By the way, the *second* book of Lawdog stories is available for preorder on Amazon. These are the Africa stories, of which my very favorite is Bob the Not-a-Russian and Something Angry In A Sack Absolutely hilarious. You want to read it.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 23, 2017 11:18 AM (hnzFp)

197 You declined to bring Bluebell ice cream"

WRONG!!!!

In fact, I know where the better part of a gallon is hiding out in Fairfax City....

But I ain't tell'n.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 11:18 AM (MINbv)

198 Amazon has had a lot of fake reviews, but some of them were hilarious reviews on odd products done in the name of humor

"How to Avoid Huge Ships" had some very funny ones

http://tinyurl.com/ybyznlab

Read the reviews on any album by David Hasselhoff and do not have liquids in your mouth when reading them

Posted by: kbdabear at July 23, 2017 11:19 AM (3i2nH)

199 Bake me a cake for my nazi skinhead wedding.

Be the party planner for it, too, and supply all the swastika flags we'll use lining the center walkway.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 23, 2017 11:22 AM (U6f54)

200 Hasn't that Gor series of books been around since, approximately, forever? I remember seeing them as a high-schooler.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (XUcIQ)


I have a fairly rare hardcover version of Tarnsman of Gor published in 1969 and it indicated a 1966 copyright date.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 11:22 AM (5Yee7)

201 I think generally Amazon is pretty honest and carries all the books....I see Milo's book is on the NYT's best seller list. I guess Barns and Nobel doesn't carry the book though....

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 10:40 AM (B3bgT)


It is self-published after Simon and Schuster bailed on it, so there may not be a bookstore distribution channel (yet).

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 11:23 AM (17QyB)

202 But I ain't tell'n.
Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 11:18 AM (MINbv)
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Boo.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 11:23 AM (u4NIS)

203 "@189: Congrats Apostate!"

Thank you. It's being published under a pen name (because reasons). If anyone is interested in the current placeholding page, you can find it here:

https://www.createspace.com/7328018.

Feedback welcome. The description and stuff is still protean.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 11:25 AM (n1dE4)

204
Hasn't that Gor series of books been around since, approximately, forever? I remember seeing them as a high-schooler.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM


MST3K did a number on Outlaw of Gor.

Same Gor?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 23, 2017 11:25 AM (IqV8l)

205 That's a very ornate library, but its very disappointing for a place like King's College. It looks less academic and literary than opulent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 11:25 AM (39g3+)

206 It's tempting. I could spend between now and eternity* regaling the book thread with the wit and wisdom of the egregious Mrs. Clinton.

*Defined as "the second I get banned."

Posted by: Tonestaple


I wish NASA had accepted her.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 11:26 AM (/qEW2)

207 I enjoyed Lucifer's Hammer by Niven/Pournelle a lot and have read it several times. The first half is fascinating, and the second half though dated is still good to me. Haven't read a better big-rock-hits-the-Earth book.

Posted by: waelse1 at July 23, 2017 11:27 AM (+7KtG)

208 bluebell go to Farfars for ice cream.

Trust me on this one.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

209 MST3K did a number on Outlaw of Gor.

Same Gor?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 23, 2017 11:25 AM (IqV8l)


Never seen it so can't say for certain, but probably. Outlaw of Gor is a book title in the series.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 23, 2017 11:27 AM (5Yee7)

210 Reading three books at once right now.

Two are John Sanford hunt-the-killer novels, one with the usual Lucas Davenport character and the other with the better one (for me), him being Virgil Flowers.

The third one and I am halfway through, is called Tears of Dark Waters. Pretty well-written story of the Somali pirate capture of a sailboat, and the aftermath.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 23, 2017 11:30 AM (U6f54)

211 Currently reading Matthew Kressel, King of Shards. This is the first attempt I have found by an English-speaking Jew in the field of heroic fantasy. It was also hard to find, for a 2015 print; I had to buy a used copy. (No Kindle?!)

(I'm not counting critiques and parodies of Christian heroic fantasy by alienated products of mixed Jewish-Christian households, lookin' at Gaiman and Grossman especially. Although Kressler himself looks whiter than I am - by a lot. The man should be wearing a kilt.)

Kressel's theme is the Lamed(h)-Vav, the 36 people who hold up the universe. The protagonist Daniel is one such. He's about to get married and then a demon kidnaps him, and drags him to Gehinnom. That's when the fantasy gets started.

In Kressel's mythology the universe is scattered with broken shards of universe, which G-d created before starting with this one. Gehinnom, here, isn't the valley of Hinnom (Daniel lampshades this, that he's aware of the scholarship); it's a world.

Gehinnom is a magical land stuck in the Bronze Age, so there are ancient cities in the desert stacked one on top of the other. Kressel, not the most subtle of writers, has Daniel explain THAT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE A JEWISH STORY OF ANCIENT CANAAN. Except with cacti, because Kressel can't envision a desert without cacti.

So here's the bad news: Kressel is not as smart as he thinks he is, and his editors are total idiots. He talks of "ashlar" blocks as if they are a material, probably because he saw the word in a book and thought it looked cool and Semitic. Ashlar is, rather, an ancient construction technique: big "cyclopean" blocks are arranged offset, layer by layer, so that vertical cracks don't develop. Kressel also renders the poem "Ozymandias" in a scene, which was obvious and superfluous. We already know the irony of broken statues of dead forgotten kings.

Neil Gaiman, for all that he's a SJW douche, wouldn't have made these rookie mistakes. On the other hand Gaiman would have made a lot of snarks against Judgey Hypocritical Christianity which Kressel does not.

I'm going to grade King of Shards as a "good effort". Someone had to write a Jewish fantasy just to prove it could be done, and Kressel did it. Maybe someday someone will actually do it competently.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 11:30 AM (6FqZa)

212 184 A little late this morning because I stayed up playing Shenzhen I/O...
Proof copy of my first book arrived and is being checked by the wife (I'm away from home). Next to last 'alpha reader' feedback was very positive. Gamed out pricing, and have a kick-ass cover that everyone seems to love, and people are signing up a mailing list. Looking at going live in September.
It's gonna happen.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM (n1dE4)


Excellent. E-mail me with the particulars when it comes out and I will provide some book thread pimpage.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 11:32 AM (OiLIO)

213 The climate needs a good spanking.

Posted by: Al Gor at July 23, 2017 11:32 AM (/qEW2)

214 go to Farfars for ice cream.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)

Better than J.P. Licks?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 11:33 AM (wYseH)

215 163 ... Brown Line, Thanks for mentioning "Heads and Tales" by Malvina Hoffman. I just ordered a copy. She sounds interesting and Rodin is a favorite. If she was good enough to be his assistant, she must have been extraordinary.

Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 11:35 AM (V+03K)

216 Hasn't that Gor series of books been around since, approximately, forever? I remember seeing them as a high-schooler.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 11:14 AM


I thought they were written mostly in the 1960s and 70s.

I've read the first two. My standing-on-one-foot review: better than I expected.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 11:36 AM (OiLIO)

217 FWIW, the Bosch Automotive Handbook series is the least possible entertaining prose ever written.

Good heads-up, thanks. Maybe I'll look for a German version instead.

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 11:36 AM (zEjuG)

218 >>Better than J.P. Licks?

It's very good, been there forever.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:37 AM (/tuJf)

219 Coldstone Creamery has good ice cream. But nothing beats home made.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 11:37 AM (39g3+)

220 "E-mail me with the particulars when it comes out and I will provide some book thread pimpage."

Willco, thank you.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 11:37 AM (n1dE4)

221 Also mentioned are a couple of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations where complying with one particular regulation will necessarily cause you to violate another.

That's like laws in general in Belgium. It's literally impossible to not break the law there.

Posted by: Jim S. at July 23, 2017 11:39 AM (ynUnH)

222 Last Bosch novel I read was 1/2 inch Cordless Hammer Drill.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 11:40 AM (9g/6M)

223 i would wager -harvard book store in harvard square cambridge. they have never carried any conservative best sellers and constantly have anti-Trump book displays. constant theme windows against GWB. silence for the Obama years then the pearl clutching began again. second guess- booksmith in brookline.

Posted by: mrmittens at July 23, 2017 11:41 AM (nZjhE)

224 66 I made a disturbing discovery this week. I was half way through the latest Numa Files novel by Clive Cussler, maybe 200 pages, and found I was bored. I mean bored to the point that I closed the book and returned it to the library. I've been a huge Cussler fan since his earliest books and still enjoy the Isaac Bell series. But the other series have become so predictable in approach, action, and characters that they don't keep my interest. Not sure if this denotes a change in me or the books or both.
Posted by: JTB at July 23, 2017 09:52 AM (V+03K)



I was told by the research librarian at my library that most of the big-name fiction writers no longer write their own books. A lot of the writing is hired out to ghost writers and can be very sub standard.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 23, 2017 09:59 AM (TdMsT)

Precisely. I was a big Clive Cussler fan dating back to the late 1970s, and remained so for many years. At least until he retired the Dirk Pitt character, because after that he stopped writing. One thing I learned long ago was when you start seeing a big name author's work appear as "Clive Cussler and Joe Blow", the reality is it was the second name that wrote the book, not the "big name author". The most Cussler (as an example) might have done is provide a story outline for the book, but that's it.

Seen the same thing with other well known writers. Sir Arthur C. Clarke comes to mind. Or Tom Clancy. Last few years of his life, Clarke was not actually writing anything, the "second author" named on his books was doing the work. And oh yes, it showed. Books like this are indeed generally substandard compared to the author's earlier works that he wrote himself.

But it is generally a case of the guy's getting old, and does not have the energy or brain power to write as he once did. But they still (usually) have a fan base out there who want new stuff, and you can bet the writer still needs some income to live on. So this is what happens.

Posted by: The Oort Cloud - No-Longer-Deplorable Source of all SMODs at July 23, 2017 11:42 AM (T1H5V)

225 Currently reading "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis.

The FBI being politically active in pleasing their Democrat masters/mistresses narratives is not a new thing.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 11:43 AM (d3wbb)

226 Better than J.P. Licks?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Lot of mention of the Bosch novels.

*cough* *art thread* *cough*

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 11:44 AM (/qEW2)

227 But it is generally a case of the guy's getting old

I think it's money. Publishers know that people might take a chance on "Thrice Is A Fapping by William Shakespeare and t-bird".

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 11:48 AM (OBJWS)

228 bluebell go to Farfars for ice cream.

Trust me on this one.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:27 AM (/tuJf)
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Making a note! At Windsor House. Lovely.

Posted by: bluebell at July 23, 2017 11:50 AM (u4NIS)

229 Necessarily, this involves a lot of Telling and not Showing, which is simultaneously boring and a lot of fun as the funhouse version Condon presents of America seems all too real after a while. Esp. the massive corruption existing in Washington DC and among "Our Betters".

I returned Brad Thor's Full Black midway into it, because the expository interview with the George Soros guy was too long, and too depressingly familiar. I think if you're writing fiction, a few deft hints are the best. We'll know what you're talking about. Tom Clancy did an effective and funny caricature of Lynne Stewart in one of his novels.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 11:50 AM (/qEW2)

230 I think it's money. Publishers know that people might take a chance on "Thrice Is A Fapping by William Shakespeare and t-bird".

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 11:48 AM (OBJWS)


I'd buy that for a dollar!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 23, 2017 11:50 AM (OiLIO)

231 163 ...........Malvina Hoffman, the sculptor who created the Hall of Man busts that are now on display in Chicago's Field Museum.


could not put it down.


Posted by: Brown Line at July 23, 2017 11:04 AM (a5bF3)
------------------------

I thought they had taken those down as they were "racist" somehow.

My son had an all expense paid trip to the Fields offered to him by the museum, including a private tour of a collection. Alas, he didn't take them up on it. He had sent them a video and some photo's of a site in Iraq.


Posted by: Javems at July 23, 2017 11:51 AM (yOqwj)

232 >>Making a note! At Windsor House. Lovely.

You are less than a mile from my old house. Enjoy.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 23, 2017 11:51 AM (/tuJf)

233 Has anyone written any non-fiction? There are no "so you want to" style preparatory books for one of my professions (in STEM). I'd have loved one when I was starting out (shit's hard), so I suspect there would be a market for it. Perversely, it would be both easier to write and apparently command a higher price than fiction.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 11:52 AM (n1dE4)

234 I've read two books by Ben Kane involving Rome. It focuses on a pair of twins, one a girl and one a boy, and they track through Caesar's life. The boy becomes a gladiator, escapes, and becomes a legionnaire despite it being death to be discovered as a slave. He's with Croesus when the army is destroyed against the Parthians and what's left of the legion has a choice: serve the Parthians or die.

The books are interesting, but the format isn't particularly welcome. He does a good job with historical details and combat scenes, but the device of alternating between the two characters is disjointed. Kane also has a tendency to every single chapter put his characters into absurd danger and threat then get them out in some way, over and over and over again. His writing of the girl is a bit annoying as well, she alternates between being indifferent about sleeping with someone to considering it horrific evil, or even rape. She spends the entire two books a victim 90% of the time, a prostitute, then helplessly surrounded by inexplicably hostile and aggressive men.

They are okay books but between these features and the huge page count I can't recommend them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 11:53 AM (39g3+)

235 My son had an all expense paid trip to the Fields
offered to him by the museum, including a private tour of a collection.
Alas, he didn't take them up on it. He had sent them a video and some
photo's of a site in Iraq. Posted by: Javems at July 23, 2017 11:51 AM (yOqwj)
=====

Oriental Institute might be a good trip.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 23, 2017 11:54 AM (MIKMs)

236 Currently reading "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis.

The FBI being politically active in pleasing their Democrat masters/mistresses narratives is not a new thing.
--

That's a great book, I read it years ago.

Makes you wonder if that was another reason for the Iraq war.

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 11:56 AM (aT+Bx)

237 Joy Reid Nood
( shutters)

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 11:56 AM (9g/6M)

238 On the store EMPLOYEE who will try to steer patrons to another selection, or discuss politics with customers...

Does the OWNER know he is doing this???? I'd fire his damn ass so quick his feet wouldn't hit the floor on his way out the door, with my size 10 boot print on his ass....

Posted by: Don Q. at July 23, 2017 11:57 AM (NgKpN)

239 Re writing non-fiction in the context of STEM, you are going to attract serious nerds, whose population isn't nearly as large as the population of Eat, Pray, Love readers.

If you can get an academic publisher, it'll command a high price, but the publisher will be walking away with it. Academics publish to bolster their CV, not to get paid (directly).

I wouldn't know about style guides, beyond general guides to writing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 11:58 AM (6FqZa)

240 I think it's money. Publishers know that people might take a chance on "Thrice Is A Fapping by William Shakespeare and t-bird".

Posted by: t-bird


I've tried a lot more than thrice. Doesn't seem to be working, lately.

Posted by: Caitlyn Jenner at July 23, 2017 12:00 PM (/qEW2)

241 Amazing what you can do with gray paint...Lots of gray paint.
Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 09:12 AM


No sh*t! We've been proselytizing this for what, like, a hundred years!!?!

Posted by: Chief Bosun Mates, USN at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (DMUuz)

242 233 Has anyone written any non-fiction? There are no "so you want to" style preparatory books for one of my professions (in STEM). I'd have loved one when I was starting out (shit's hard), so I suspect there would be a market for it. Perversely, it would be both easier to write and apparently command a higher price than fiction.
Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 11:52 AM (n1dE4)

Course material both in the Military, and for Network Engineering courses.

Real key is to stay focused on the subject matter.. I used Objective Based Learning criteria where you decide the endpoint of the training, or subject, and then figure out the steps needed to get to that endpoint...

Because its easy to get off on tangents, to suddenly be talking about something which is not part of the original subject...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (NgKpN)

243 176 RM, I enjoyed The Great Bridge immensely. The cops' and builders' lives and their times added drama. Weren't there anarchists involved?

Posted by: booknlass at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (6Xf+s)

244 I felt bad about all the suffrage going on back then.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 23, 2017 10:12 AM (IDPbH)


"Suffer the children?" He asked hopefully.

Posted by: jwpaine at July 23, 2017 12:04 PM (PLsKH)

245 241 Amazing what you can do with gray paint...Lots of gray paint.
Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 09:12 AM

No sh*t! We've been proselytizing this for what, like, a hundred years!!?!

Posted by: Chief Bosun Mates, USN at July 23, 2017 12:02 PM (DMUuz)


Once for dust, twice for rust.

Work it may, shine it must.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:05 PM (17QyB)

246 I think if you're writing fiction, a few deft hints are the best.

I agree, its easy to preach or have long Randian passages of arguments proving your point when nobody can talk back but its not very interesting to read. And its easy to put real characters in a book then fill their mouths with the worst of what they have or might say, and show them as awful but a little goes a long ways.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (39g3+)

247 LOL, George Martin says maybe 2018 for Winds Of Winter

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (6FqZa)

248 "Re writing non-fiction in the context of STEM, you are going to attract serious nerds..."

What I'm contemplating will be aimed at high-school graduates or twenty-somethings who intend to go into a particular field of STEM (electrical engineering, in this case), and want to see what it is and/or prepare. I looked for such things before I entered the field; would have been very helpful if I'd found them. EE was not like I expected it to be.

Smaller field of readers like you say, but not so small as an expensive academic text aiming at credentialed practitioners. 150 pages or so soft-cover would surely be sufficient.

Might be worth aiming at high school and college counselors, parents as well.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (n1dE4)

249 Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (n1dE4)

I would buy something like that for my son.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:08 PM (17QyB)

250 LOL, George Martin says maybe 2018 for Winds Of Winter

I think it was on this blog that I first saw the theory that Martin is a troll, that he loves to tease and make miserable fans of fantasy. That's why his books are full of misery and death and failure. The theory states that he'll never, ever put out that last book because of this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 12:11 PM (39g3+)

251 LOL, George Martin says maybe 2018 for Winds Of Winter

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (6FqZa)



The Beatles' producer. I thought he died last year?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 23, 2017 12:14 PM (auHtY)

252 I think it was on this blog that I first saw the theory that Martin is a troll, that he loves to tease and make miserable fans of fantasy. That's why his books are full of misery and death and failure. The theory states that he'll never, ever put out that last book because of this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


He doesn't have an ending. Or rather he can't get to his intended one. He wrote himself into a corner and was waiting for the TV show to bail his sorry ass out.

That's my working theory, anyhoo.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not a damn failure at July 23, 2017 12:19 PM (66CWr)

253 George Martin says maybe 2018 for Winds Of Winter
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 12:06 PM (6FqZa)

I am glad HBO will Finish the damn thing.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 23, 2017 12:20 PM (dKiJG)

254 90 I started thumbing through a couple of books I have on restoring and maintaining hand tools for wood working. This started when I found a pair of vise grip pliers that have gotten pretty rusty. I haven't used them in a while but I do have some good quality wood working hand tools, some are usable antiques, and I should make sure they are in shape. Like cleaning guns, there is satisfaction in maintaining good tools. And using them for some small projects would be fun and give me a bit of needed exercise.
Posted by: JTB


I've done a bit of that. Flea market finds (greasy, grimy, rusty). I don't collect. I restore them to put them to work. I avoid the pieces destined for a beauty shot in Country Living (overuse of the wire wheel and a drill).

For rust removal on tools, I like Evapo-Rust (or one of the non-acid rust removing clones). It will dissolve rust, but leave the underlying steel or cast iron alone.

1. Clean and degrease
2. Chip off any scale.. Brush loose rust by hand. I use a steelo toothbush type.
3. Soak in Evapo-Rust. I check it hourly
4. Wash with soap and water and a scrub brush. Flush with denatured alcohol
5. Paint, oil, wax as appropriate

That stuff will get into the joints of pliers, pipe wrenches, etc and remover the rust in there. I but it by the gallon. I'll use the acid based stuff if I am in a hurry. Reuse either product until it's no longer effective.

The piece

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 23, 2017 12:20 PM (di1hb)

255 Just started one of the latest John Sandford's, Golden Prey, mainly to see if he was still so libtarded. Within the first 50 pages there are dirty cops who have their "Obamacams" turned off and our protagonist has evidently saved the life of the female presidential candidate in the last episode.

If this story wasn't so rip-roaring, I'd have quit as soon as I got to the Obamacam mention.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 23, 2017 12:20 PM (joFoi)

256 Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 09:04 AM (gwPgz)

I don't even own a dog but was fascinated to see a guy on the "Home" show demo teaching basic commands to the shelter dogs he trains for TV/movies.

Lucky Dog Lessons: train your dog in seven days, by Brandon McMillan, came out in 2016 and is phenomenal. His parents were animal trainers in the circus so he knows of whence he speaks.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 23, 2017 12:24 PM (joFoi)

257 I think it was on this blog that I first saw the
theory that Martin is a troll, that he loves to tease and make miserable
fans of fantasy. That's why his books are full of misery and death and
failure. The theory states that he'll never, ever put out that last
book because of this. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 12:11 PM (39g3+)
=====

He reminds me of Stephen Donaldson and Thomas Covenant. Bleeech. So dark it just became some kind of pron.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 23, 2017 12:27 PM (MIKMs)

258 Evapo-Rust recommendation seconded - for the right jobs. Magic for small metal parts you can submerge, soak overnight.

About half-way through "The Burning Shore" by Edward Offley. Account of the German U-boat offensive against the US east coast at the beginning of the war (following US entry).

Sort of a popular style, vs. heavy and academic, though interesting. Main take-away so far is the jaw-dropping lack of response from the US Navy to the offensive, for which they were forewarned in some detail by the British naval intel center.

So far the author hasn't seemed to come down firmly that this was dereliction by Adm. King and others, or merely the desperate shortage of resources and the priority of North Atlantic convoy work, or some combo of both. But it is striking - even Adm. Donitz was shocked at the lack of any seeming response to his offensive (delighted, but mystified).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:27 PM (iynDC)

259 On George Martin, I liked much of his SF short stories and the novel "Armageddon Rag" but never got into anything after including Thrones which I tried to watch but got turned off during the 1st season and dropped watching it.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:33 PM (d3wbb)

260 He reminds me of Stephen Donaldson and Thomas Covenant. Bleeech.

Yeah I couldn't get into those books. My older brothers loved them but they were too lush in description, the hero so pathetic he was obnoxious (and horrible), and the stories were just evil

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 23, 2017 12:34 PM (39g3+)

261 "even Adm. Donitz was shocked at the lack of any seeming response to his offensive (delighted, but mystified)."

It was my understanding that it was not very effective, and a misuse of German resources. Every submarine that wasn't sinking convoys headed for British forces was a submarine wasted.

Posted by: Apostate at July 23, 2017 12:34 PM (n1dE4)

EMT 07/23/17

More like EMZzzzz.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 05:49 AM (9g/6M)

2 Maybe this will hlp you get awake
https://youtu.be/TfXSBBIzRyg

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 05:51 AM (9g/6M)

3 How many fake Russian headlines does it take to commit a coup?

Posted by: JC at July 23, 2017 05:51 AM (IBZ02)

4 Help, not hip.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 05:52 AM (9g/6M)

5 Good morning from the land of bier and wurst.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 23, 2017 05:53 AM (oXJmp)

6 Howdy.

Posted by: m at July 23, 2017 06:01 AM (LRfkc)

7 8 people found dead in a truck here in San Antonio last night. The semi was found parked at a Walmart, with 38 people on board.

For the last few days, temperatures have ranged from 100 - 106 degrees here.

Posted by: JC at July 23, 2017 06:02 AM (IBZ02)

8 Fox News- Witness who was riding a bike, and has some video ( I think the other day it was reported he only recorded the resuscitation and after the shooting) has come forward.

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 06:04 AM (9g/6M)

9 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at July 23, 2017 06:07 AM (Mcvvl)

10 I guess the cop that shot the lady in Minnesota will tell his side of the story as soon as an army of lawyers get done manufacturing it.

Posted by: Tentotwo at July 23, 2017 06:14 AM (yhf6w)

11 I'm guessing the semitrailer wasn't hauling Canadians down to San Antonio?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 06:23 AM (smD62)

12 I'm guessing the semitrailer wasn't hauling Canadians down to San Antonio?

Posted by: Tickled Pink

Merely the Mexico producers also packing in laborers to unload the trucks. Because Americans won't do it.

They come right back after they're done.

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 06:26 AM (8ikIW)

13 I have a free weekend of HBO. I watched the last (I hope) Jason Bourne movie yesterday.

I know the movie was "free" to me, but how do I get my money back for my time?

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 06:30 AM (8ikIW)

14 Day 3 at my parents' house where my 80-year-old mother is committing suicide slowly. Yesterday she ate a piece of bacon, a bite of toast, a little bit of watermelon, and half an Ensure. That was it. And she just wants to stay in bed all day.

It's so tough seeing her like this.

Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 06:32 AM (QeLWM)

15 Sorry to hear your Mom isn't doing well. I have a lot of experience here. I'm caring for my 84 and 85 yr old parents. Food doesn't have the appeal it used to and they eat very little. I have to really watch that they get protein. I've accepted there isn't much I can do other than keep trying to entice them with food that has lots of flavor.

Posted by: dailydish at July 23, 2017 06:45 AM (g5vXL)

16 She got out last night & hasn't returned. Reckon I should go out & look in the woods. Maybe I'll get lucky.

Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at July 23, 2017 06:47 AM (bc2Lc)

17 Really hoping to see flaming skull worthy events this week.
A. Mueller investigation shut down
B. Leakers arrested and perp walked
C. Comey arrested
D. Lynch arrested
E. Everyone associated with Hillary's classified emails arrested
F. Everyone associated with Clinton foundation pay to play arrested
When it comes, it must be time on target, all at once. We can't be a nation of laws that are only enforced against the little people. Do the crime, do the time. Regardless of MSM blowback, this has to be done. It's time.

Posted by: Uncle Si at July 23, 2017 06:50 AM (ZLmoR)

18 Another slow July news day

Posted by: RobM1981 at July 23, 2017 06:58 AM (VVBN7)

19 Thanks, dailydish. Mom's tastes seem to change daily. For a while she was big on mac'n'cheese then suddenly didn't like it anymore. She used to eat scrambled eggs, but yesterday she wouldn't do it.

And aside from the poor nutrition and loss of will to live, she has cancer, which would be treatable if she were healthier and wanted treatment, but she isn't healthy and doesn't want treatment. So it's like trying to get her to eat up so she can get strong and healthy so she can die of cancer next year. What's the point?

Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 07:00 AM (QeLWM)

20 Now that Sessions has been smeared with a SIGINT leak of the Russian ambassador blabbing back to Moscow, could the DOJ and FBI consider getting off their big useless asses and find the leakers? If Sessions goes, who is a gentleman and reasonable person, I don't think they will want what they will get as a replacement overseeing them. Just spit balling here but the next one is always less "understanding" of betraying your boss.

Posted by: Lester at July 23, 2017 07:04 AM (LfJIn)

21 Ok, that Girls und Panzer tune was pretty righteous.

Posted by: Little Boomer at July 23, 2017 07:06 AM (6fu25)

22 GAY!

Posted by: Shep Smith at July 23, 2017 07:09 AM (/qEW2)

23 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 23, 2017 07:09 AM (KCxzN)

24 14 Day 3 at my parents' house where my 80-year-old mother is committing
suicide slowly. Yesterday she ate a piece of bacon, a bite of toast, a
little bit of watermelon, and half an Ensure. That was it. And she
just wants to stay in bed all day.


Posted by: biancaneve

Been there, got through that, after Dad died nearly 3 years ago; 60 years married to Mom. Her already low weight dropped and she just wanted to go to a nursing home and melt away.

But through a network of friends and relatives that call her all the time, me keeping 4-5 prepared dishes in the fridge for her to choose from (all of which she likes the taste of), and getting her to go with me and walk around nearly every day, she's a lot healthier now than 3 years ago.

Like most humans, we need to feel cared about, useful, and mentally engaged in the world.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 23, 2017 07:10 AM (6jaju)

25 Collusion. It's the duct tape of smears:
works in most any situation.

Posted by: LASue at July 23, 2017 07:12 AM (Mjus2)

26 We can't be a nation of laws that are only enforced against the little people. Do the crime, do the time.

Posted by: Uncle Si
________

G. IRS civil-servant schmo gleefully acting on Lois Lerner's illegal orders

The little people must pay, too.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 07:17 AM (zkGZ8)

27 I hate spinach diarrhea. Think I'll name my colon Popeye's Cesspool.

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at July 23, 2017 07:22 AM (/qEW2)

28 Good morning from the land of bier and wurst.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead


Beer isn't halal. Neither are most wursts. I need to figure out a way of outlawing them. I don't want to have to wait until all the infidels are dead. ULULULULULULULULUL!

Posted by: Angela Merkel at July 23, 2017 07:29 AM (/qEW2)

29 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 07:42 AM (BO/km)

30 "She got out last night & hasn't returned. Reckon I should go out & look in the woods. Maybe I'll get lucky.
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at July 23, 2017 06:47 AM (bc2Lc)"

Nah. Just roll over and get another couple hours of sleep. She'll come back. She always does.

Posted by: Tuna at July 23, 2017 07:42 AM (jm1YL)

31 @29

Yeah, that's a lie....I don't think all that many Hispanics were shopping at Target in the first place.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 07:43 AM (smD62)

32 I'm guessing the semitrailer wasn't hauling Canadians down to San Antonio?"

*snort*

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 07:45 AM (MINbv)

33 Target has been dead to me ever since they wanted me to see things, bad things, in the shitter.

Maybe that's why the illegal invaders stopped shopping there too.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 23, 2017 07:51 AM (5VlCp)

34 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported. "

Yeah, saw that and chuckled.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 07:52 AM (MINbv)

35 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported.

Posted by: freaked
________

It gets worse.

A lot of Hispanics won't even vote for fear of being deported once it's discovered that they're in the country counter to current law. This threatens our democracy at its foundation!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 07:53 AM (zkGZ8)

36 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported.





Posted by: freaked

Hispanics were afraid of seeing 'El Grande Dingle Dongle' in the toilet.

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 07:55 AM (8ikIW)

37 "This threatens our democracy at its foundation!"

Not to mention our landscaping!

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 07:55 AM (BO/km)

38 "She got out last night & hasn't returned. Reckon I should go out & look in the woods. Maybe I'll get lucky.
Posted by: Bill in Chappaqua at July 23, 2017 06:47 AM (bc2Lc)"

Nah. Just roll over and get another couple hours of sleep. She'll come back. She always does.

Posted by: Tuna


I have this urge to stay in the woods 7 years and eat grass like an ox.

*grunt* *moo*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 23, 2017 07:56 AM (/qEW2)

39 New movie out next month...

ICE Station Target

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 07:56 AM (8ikIW)

40 69 degrees where I am. Supposed to reach 75 on Thursday. That's an increase of 9% in less than a week!

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 07:57 AM (zkGZ8)

41 69 degrees where I am. Supposed to reach 75 on Thursday. That's an increase of 9% in less than a week!

Posted by: FireHorse


I hope there's not an ocean nearby

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 07:58 AM (8ikIW)

42 What has this nation become if illegals cannot use their taxpayer funded entitlements to buy stuff from us??? THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE.

Posted by: Target board of directors at July 23, 2017 07:59 AM (/qEW2)

43 El Grande Dingle Dongle' in the toilet."

Wait, you mean a largely Catholic segment might NOT want to have that sort of "exposure" to *ahem* culture?

And perusing further, one finds out that "Hispanic" shoppers at Wally World are up over the same period?

Yeah, blame Trump.

Target = a**holes of the universe.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 07:59 AM (MINbv)

44 '69 degrees where I am. Supposed to reach 75 on Thursday. '

With the "heat index" it's supposed to be 108 here today.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 07:59 AM (BO/km)

45 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported.

It's interesting that if this is true (which I doubt), some variant of racial profiling would be necessary to draw this conclusion. Hmm...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 23, 2017 08:00 AM (Tyii7)

46 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 07:42 AM (BO/km)




So Target is spying on and keeping track of Hispanics?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 23, 2017 08:00 AM (auHtY)

47 And perusing further, one finds out that "Hispanic" shoppers at Wally World are up over the same period?



Yeah, blame Trump.



Target = a**holes of the universe.

Posted by: Anon a mouse


Maybe Target should make themselves a sanctuary store.
All the cool cities are doing it

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:01 AM (8ikIW)

48 The scientist and academic, from Barcelona, said he struck a deal with a Chinese sex doll and robotics factory that will allow him to produce a minimum of 50 a week.

Okay, save your pennies, coming to a sex shop near you...Picture of the "robot" sill looks like a dept store mannequin..Japanese will probably do it better. Do you have to be a "scientist" to make sex robots??

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 08:01 AM (B3bgT)

49 With the "heat index" it's supposed to be 108 here today.

Posted by: freaked
________

Ah, the heat index -- the North's answer to "wind chill."

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 08:01 AM (zkGZ8)

50 Ah, the heat index -- the North's answer to "wind chill."


Yea. Actual temp will be only about 98.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 08:02 AM (BO/km)

51 So Target is spying on and keeping track of Hispanics?"

*snort*

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 08:02 AM (MINbv)

52 Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported.


Maybe the Hispanics bought/use computers and are shopping online and having their stuff delivered?

Ya know, like a lot of the rest of America.

Assimilation.


Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:02 AM (8ikIW)

53 Ah, the heat index -- the North's answer to "wind chill."

Posted by: FireHorse

Like wind chill, it gives the news readers something to clutch their pearls about

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:04 AM (8ikIW)

54 Come for the social justice, stay for the shaming!

Posted by: Target at July 23, 2017 08:04 AM (Tyii7)

55 "Okay, save your pennies, coming to a sex shop near you"

The thing about sexbots is someone has to clean those things. It's probably a little more involved than one of those frozen yogurt robots.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 08:05 AM (BO/km)

56 So.......if someone buys a sex robot, where are you supposed to store it?

In the closet?.....creepy.
On the couch?......nasty.
Trunk of your car?......jail.

And are they self-cleaning?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 23, 2017 08:05 AM (5VlCp)

57 Got to sleep in this morning. Lounged in bed until 6:00! Livin' the high life!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 08:06 AM (RO6/m)

58 Maybe the Hispanics bought/use computers and are shopping online and having their stuff delivered?

Ya know, like a lot of the rest of America.

Assimilation.




Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:02 AM (8ikIW)

Consider me old fashion, but the local mail man will hate delivering 2X4's and lots of other stuff the home improvement stores sell. I just had some paint delivered to HD for pickup, it worked well, after the lady at the customer service counter could find the box, took awhile.....

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 08:07 AM (B3bgT)

59 "And are they self-cleaning?"

I suppose you could take it outside and hose it out.

Posted by: freaked at July 23, 2017 08:08 AM (BO/km)

60 57 Got to sleep in this morning. Lounged in bed until 6:00! Livin' the high life!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 23, 2017 08:06 AM (RO6/m)

................

I envy you. Up at 0430 here. By 6 I had my grocery shopping done, walked the dog 3 miles and had the ribs on the smoker.

Posted by: Molly k. at July 23, 2017 08:09 AM (7Wh8a)

61 And are they self-cleaning?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy
________

Ideally, another robot does that, and that may lead to something else, and then we're getting our money's worth.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 08:10 AM (zkGZ8)

62
Has Target figured out why other people besides Hispanics have stopped shopping there? I'll like to see a breakdown of every racial and ethnic group from them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 23, 2017 08:10 AM (auHtY)

63 I suppose you could take it outside and hose it out.

Posted by: freaked

They could put one of those hose connectors on it like some lawnmowers have.

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:10 AM (8ikIW)

64 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 23, 2017 08:11 AM (hyuyC)

65 Maybe the Hispanics bought/use computers and are shopping online and having their stuff delivered?

Ya know, like a lot of the rest of America.

Assimilation.

Posted by: Bruce


Even if WaPo loses money, it's a good investment for Bezos.

He gets a bully pulpit to say that deporting illegals is eeeevil, so that they can continue to shop at taxpayer expense. I bet he's got an excel spreadsheet estimating how much is at stake.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 08:11 AM (/qEW2)

66 and had the ribs on the smoker.


Posted by: Molly k

I hate it when I fall asleep on top of the grill

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:11 AM (8ikIW)

67 Up at 0430 here. By 6 I had my grocery shopping done, walked the dog 3 miles and had the ribs on the smoker.

Now you're just braggin

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 23, 2017 08:12 AM (oXJmp)

68 I see a Roomba for sex robots in the future.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at July 23, 2017 08:12 AM (MCEs2)

69 FWIW, the Target guy's comment is noteworthy as the (Target) went all in on "hispanic" advertising a couple of years ago with a much ballyhooed push called "without/no translation".

It was really pushed in certain markets - we saw major signage and such at the Target in Fair Lakes (NoVa) - and then again when we finished the move to Texas in '15.

I'll go out on a short limb and guess that Target Dude is on the chopping block (there's been a bloodbath in T management lately) over the dollars spent, and is babbling to protect his job.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 08:13 AM (MINbv)

70 Real story: I have cousin and his wife, live out in the country on a dirt road. They have a mannequin sitting on their deck by a pool. They change the clothing for the season...kind of creepy....Sometimes the mannequin is standing by the front door, sometimes in the living room watching TV. They are quite normal people. (I think)

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 08:13 AM (B3bgT)

71 I see a Roomba for sex robots in the future.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger

I see half hour infomercials for them that you'll have to explain to the kids

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:14 AM (8ikIW)

72 >>>Ideally, another robot does that, and that may lead to something else, and then we're getting our money's worth.

It's called allogrooming when cats do it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 08:14 AM (/qEW2)

73 63.
type
delete
Being the good Catholic girl that I am, I couldn't type my comment.
A dead nun would rise from her grave and smite me.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 23, 2017 08:15 AM (N3JsI)

74 I'm calling it now.

South Park
S2101
Undercover Mexican


Posted by: charley horse at July 23, 2017 08:15 AM (+kahX)

75 Robotic Sanitation Engineer is not the exotic occupation that the name implies.

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at July 23, 2017 08:17 AM (BO/km)

76 I'm guessing there's some sort of tank that needs to be emptied out periodically. Ew.

Posted by: Truly St. Cyr at July 23, 2017 08:18 AM (Tj45n)

77 I like the side par article:
China Forces Muslim Users to Install Spying Software on Smartphones


They're playing hardball, and I don't recall that they've had any terrorist attacks. How come their communists want to protect their country and our communists want to destroy it?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 08:20 AM (/qEW2)

78 Took college son to see Dunkirk last night. Of course, these days, youts know almost nothing about WWII, in contrast to my generation. I told him i was able to buy a book about 'Dunquerque' in the school-sponsored mail order book catalog. Very good film, i thought. Surprisingly intimate and personal, given the sweeping saga of the battle. Lots of attention to detail and historical accuracy. Didn't really get the feel of the massive civilian boatlift though; it's implied. Worth seeing though.

Posted by: goatexchange at July 23, 2017 08:21 AM (YFnq5)

79 I'm guessing there's some sort of tank that needs to be emptied out periodically. Ew.

Posted by: Truly St. Cyr


"Time to empty the Shep".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 08:23 AM (/qEW2)

80 '69 degrees where I am. Supposed to reach 75 on Thursday. '

With the "heat index" it's supposed to be 108 here today.

Posted by: freaked
----------

How come the Wind Chill is never reported during the summer?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 08:23 AM (OdK9v)

81 Studs Terkel, The Good War was a bunch of short stories stitched together. A remembrance. I guess this movie is taking place real time, not a look back. I liked Titantic because they set it up as a look back. That was brilliant.

Posted by: charley horse at July 23, 2017 08:25 AM (+kahX)

82 Lots of attention to detail and historical accuracy. Didn't really get the feel of the massive civilian boatlift though; it's implied. Worth seeing though.

Posted by: goatexchange


HISTORICAL ACCURACY MY ASS! THERE WAS WHITE PEOPLE IN IT!!!

Posted by: AL SHARPTON at July 23, 2017 08:26 AM (/qEW2)

83 The wind is blowing SW about 15 over the water where I am in NC. The wind is so hot and humid I am wondering if the Santa Ana has found its way here.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at July 23, 2017 08:28 AM (SoJdk)

84 Hungary's leader: EU and Soros seek to "Muslimize" Europe




It's good to see some people in Europe have their heads on straight

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 23, 2017 08:30 AM (auHtY)

85 I just returned from vaca in ft lauderdale; one of our Uber drivers raft-escaped from Cuba over 20 yrs ago, rescued by USGC. He LOVES Trump & Cruz, & he knows Rubio is a rino
-- i nearly asked him if he was a fellow moron, but i didn't want to interrupt his story-telling. So refreshing to meet smart strangers!

Posted by: Ruth Ruben at July 23, 2017 08:30 AM (T2aay)

86 The thing with sex robots is they'll have some sort of operating system, which remains the intellectual property of the manufacturer. Every now and again, you'll have to pay for updates and what-not. So you'll never really own a sex robot; you just lease it, in practical terms.

Then the inevitable happens: The sex robot decides it doesn't want to be your sex robot any more. Your mind will be blown because you'll think that it just became a sentient being with an autonomous consciousness, and you'll further think that your having sex with it caused this singularity. But that was in its programming all along.

And besides, you'll have to tell the manufacturer what language you want it to speak when you order the thing. I'm guessing some languages (e.g. Korean) will cost more. That's how they get you on the front end.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 08:31 AM (zkGZ8)

87 64 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 23, 2017 08:11 AM (hyuyC)
---
Been a lurker for a while and this brings a slight grin to my crusty face every morning... thanks for the lift NaCly Dog! OOH RAH!

Posted by: Not as lean, not as mean, but still a Marine at July 23, 2017 08:32 AM (+ldAm)

88 Morning Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 08:32 AM (tr2D7)

89
Dear Target,

Life getting a little tough out there on the cutting edge of SJWland?

Convert your stores to be only "all transgendered, all the time" restrooms. Have the courage of your convictions, kiddos!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 08:33 AM (labbd)

90 Being the good Catholic girl that I am, I couldn't type my comment.
A dead nun would rise from her grave and smite me.
Posted by: never enough caffeine
---

You're lucky! Sister Mary Margret showed up and smacked me for simply thinking it.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 08:34 AM (tr2D7)

91 >> Target claims that Hispanic shoppers have stopped leaving their homes to shop, presumably for fear of being deported. "


Uh, no, they're shopping at Walmart, as always.
They're not the shoppers you've "lost" recently.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 23, 2017 08:35 AM (NOIQH)

92 Convert your stores to be only "all transgendered, all the time" restrooms. "

I'd bet that conversation's been had already...and some twitwit has claimed that to be a good thing.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 08:36 AM (MINbv)

93 Uh, no, they're shopping at Walmart, as always.
They're not the shoppers you've "lost" recently.




Posted by: Lizzy

Heh. I'm thinking of the Obi Wan Kenobe line of "These are not the droids you're looking for"

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:37 AM (8ikIW)

94
I had to break my Target boycott recently because I broke something of a matching set and could only get replacement through them.

I did get a dig in when we checked out. I said to wife, clearly in earshot of gheyish looking cashier, 'Wanna use the bathroom before we leave, meet some guys?'

Cashier remained calm, cool, collected as if he hears that kinda stuff all the time.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 23, 2017 08:37 AM (EgwCt)

95 These aren't the illegals you're looking for.

Posted by: Obi-Jeb Kenobi at July 23, 2017 08:38 AM (Rjw0c)

96 FWIW, here's the money quote:

"However, with many major retailers currently either flat or declining with Hispanic shoppers, some retailers, such as Walmart, have been able to achieve significant growth with highly effective targeting and activation of Hispanic shoppers."

The world wonders, no?

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 08:38 AM (MINbv)

97 Hispanic shopper data is not Target. It's market research from NPD Group, which has studied Hispanic retail habits for several years now (among many other things, as they are a market analysis firm). I don't think they drew any conclusions other than noting it was occurring and yes it was specific to Hispanics and not tracking with similar decline in non-Hispanic activity.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 23, 2017 08:39 AM (RrhD2)

98
Never shopped at Target much in the first place, maybe two or three times a year, tops. Haven't shopped there but once in the past three years.

They never were irreplaceable and they never had the level of customer loyalty that they imagined. Sucks to be them.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 08:39 AM (labbd)

99 I don't think they drew any conclusions other than
noting it was occurring and yes it was specific to Hispanics and not
tracking with similar decline in non-Hispanic activity.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy

So, Climate Change

Posted by: Bruce at July 23, 2017 08:40 AM (8ikIW)

100 That's how they get you on the front end.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 08:31 AM (zkGZ


I'm more interested in the back end. IYKWIM.

Posted by: Prevert Robot Buyer at July 23, 2017 08:40 AM (EgwCt)

101 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:41 AM (J+eG2)

102 Good morning. I looked at the ONT and I see that SMFH has not been unbanned. Still, it was nice to see that I'm not the only one calling for her to be reinstated.

Posted by: rickl at July 23, 2017 08:41 AM (sdi6R)

103 NYT, surprisingly, has an article about the unrest in Venezuala with plenty of pictures and stories about the protesters by an in-country photojournalist. Yet, they managed to avoid and mention of the root cause of the violence and collapse of the country. Just economic problems and food shortages. Not a word about socialism, nationalizations and failed central planning that is causing them.. Not one word.

Posted by: Ripley at July 23, 2017 08:42 AM (NbRJx)

104 I don't want the neighbors ogling my sexbot when I hose her down in the driveway.

Posted by: Bite the hand that feeds me at July 23, 2017 08:43 AM (Jqp7I)

105
It's never socialism that fails, but the inability of the people (those ingrates) to live up to the ideals of socialism that causes failure.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 23, 2017 08:43 AM (labbd)

106 I hate Target, I've never liked them but I began the hate 15 years ago when they changed their return policy. Since then they've eased it a bit, so I gave them a bit of my business. Then they went & endorsed allowing weenies in my restroom-- the hate has been solidified.

Posted by: Ruth Ruben at July 23, 2017 08:44 AM (T2aay)

107 " Yet, they managed to avoid and mention of the root cause of the violence and collapse of the country. Just economic problems and food shortages. "

I believe a well known Author attributed events like this to "Bad Luck".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:44 AM (J+eG2)

108 I don't think they drew any conclusions "

Yeah. If only there was something different...

*snort*

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 08:44 AM (MINbv)

109 103
Not a word about socialism, nationalizations and failed central planning that is causing them.. Not one word.
Posted by: Ripley at July 23, 2017 08:42 AM (NbRJx)


Not even "bad luck"?

Posted by: rickl at July 23, 2017 08:44 AM (sdi6R)

110 Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 07:00 AM (QeLWM)

I’m so sorry. I went through a similar situation with my father and it isn’t easy to watch.

I pray that your mother, you, and your family know the peace that surpasses all understanding and the joy that does not depend upon circumstances.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 23, 2017 08:44 AM (nvMvs)

111 I used to shop at Target 2-3 times a month then stopped with the whole bathroom kerfuffle. My intention was to boycott them for a few months until they got their act together, but when the CEO doubled down on the crazy I made it a permanent boycott. I bought one thing there a few months ago because I couldn't get it at another store, but that's it. They're dead to me, and this whining over the Hispanics not shopping there because TRUMP is one more reason not to shop there ever again

Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 08:44 AM (QeLWM)

112
I haven't seen any pictures of male sex robots yet. Sexism or lack of market?

Concern level status:
[ ] high
[X] mildly curious

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 23, 2017 08:45 AM (EgwCt)

113 Venezuala.
SOCMOB.

Posted by: Bite the hand that feeds me at July 23, 2017 08:46 AM (Jqp7I)

114 I look forward to the day when a small child turns to her father and says, "Daddy, what was Target?".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:46 AM (J+eG2)

115 Thanks, Michael the Texan.

Posted by: biancaneve at July 23, 2017 08:46 AM (QeLWM)

116 I think Target could jazz up their lunch room at the front of the store. Looks like an after thought, more like a cheap hotdog and soda place. A bar and great burgers with a Southwest Moe's look might work...

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 08:47 AM (B3bgT)

117 I'm about to comment about the crazy last 30 minutes of Saving Pvt Ryan, another film where the Director uses the old person, in this case an elderly man to remember the story.

Now I was reading the script and apparently Spielberg changed something in very big way in the movie from the way the script is written.

The script has Upham and Mellish get surprised by the German, Mellish and the German raise their weapons and the German gets off a burst first, dropping Mellish. Then the German turns and Upham shoots him with the .45.

In the film, we see something very different. Upham, through his cowardice, is responsible for Mellish's death. Just wow. That's a pretty big re-write.

Posted by: charley horse at July 23, 2017 08:47 AM (+kahX)

118
It's difficult for women to afford a sex robot when the gender pay gap is so large.

Posted by: Chelshire Clinton at July 23, 2017 08:48 AM (EgwCt)

119 I have this urge to stay in the woods 7 years and eat grass like an ox.

*grunt* *moo*
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 23, 2017 07:56 AM (/qEW2)


I got the reference and it’s a great one. Thanks.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 23, 2017 08:48 AM (nvMvs)

120 "Then the inevitable happens: The sex robot decides it doesn't want to be your sex robot any more. Your mind will be blown because you'll think that it just became a sentient being with an autonomous consciousness, and you'll further think that your having sex with it caused this singularity. But that was in its programming all along."

Aka the Marriage Subroutine.


Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 08:48 AM (0mRoj)

121 She's been unbanned since yesterday morning because the person she called a bitch asked for it. Unless one of the CoBs reinstated the ban and I don't think that's the case.

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 23, 2017 08:48 AM (sf2BM)

122 Ironically NPD Group is also tracking an increase in work/occupational footwear by Hispanics but a drop in other footwear categories.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at July 23, 2017 08:49 AM (RrhD2)

123 I haven't seen any pictures of male sex robots yet. Sexism or lack of market?



Concern level status:

[ ] high

[X] mildly curious

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 23, 2017 08:45 AM (EgwCt)

Coming I'm sure...at least for the gay crowd...

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 08:49 AM (B3bgT)

124 Toasted Pop-Tarts, the Sunday treat

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 08:49 AM (9g/6M)

125 Prayers for all those who care for elderly parents.

I cared for my Mom until she passed last year. Her mind was reasonably sharp until the end but her body was worn out.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 23, 2017 08:49 AM (tr2D7)

126 http://screenplayexplorer.com/wp-content/scripts/Saving-Private-Ryan.pdf

pg 155-156. This isn't the way it went down in the film, correct?

Posted by: charley horse at July 23, 2017 08:50 AM (+kahX)

127 "Looks like an after thought, more like a cheap hotdog and soda place. A bar and great burgers with a Southwest Moe's look might work..."

Shit...BJ's Wholesale Club.

1/4 pound hot dog and a soda...$1.99.

That's a good grab-n-go launch right there.


Here, the last time I was in Target, before the Bathroom Wars, they had Staryucks, and all the kool moms had to hang out playing "Stump the Recent College Graduate Barrista" with their seven part drink order.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:50 AM (J+eG2)

128 "I believe a well known Author attributed events like this to "Bad Luck".



Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

The bad luck was having a majority around 15 years ago that believed the lies of the socialists. (kind of what we have here.) The only thing prevented this from happening sooner was the "good luck" of high oil prices to pay for he Free Stuff.

Posted by: Ripley at July 23, 2017 08:50 AM (NbRJx)

129 121 She's been unbanned since yesterday morning because the person she called a bitch asked for it. Unless one of the CoBs reinstated the ban and I don't think that's the case.
Posted by: Tim in Illinois at July 23, 2017 08:48 AM (sf2BM)


Thanks, Tim! That's great news. I hope she's aware of it.

Posted by: rickl at July 23, 2017 08:51 AM (sdi6R)

130 "I haven't seen any pictures of male sex robots yet. Sexism or lack of market? "

We are compatible with all gendermodes.

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at July 23, 2017 08:51 AM (BO/km)

131 >>>Posted by: Prevert Robot Buyer at July 23, 2017 08:40 AM (EgwCt)

Would a reformed prevert be a post-vert?

Posted by: Col. Bat Guano at July 23, 2017 08:51 AM (/qEW2)

132 Costco. Dog & soda for a buck and a half. Still good.


" and all the kool moms had to hang out playing "Stump the Recent College Graduate Barrista" with their seven part drink order"

I see we'd both been to the same Target...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 08:53 AM (MINbv)

133 Guys like women who speak their mind, right?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 08:54 AM (smD62)

134 Here, the last time I was in Target, before the
Bathroom Wars, they had Staryucks, and all the kool moms had to hang out
playing "Stump the Recent College Graduate Barrista" with their seven part drink order.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:50 AM (J+eG2)

The nearby Target I haven't visited in over 2 years. I used to walk buy the place on my long walks....Have to drop in sometime and see what it looks like now...I use BN now for coffee, if I really want Starbucks.

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 08:54 AM (B3bgT)

135 "Would a reformed prevert be a post-vert? "

Would Pinnochio, with a desire to identify as a woman,, and be ravaged by a split rail fence be known was a pre-op-post-vert?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:55 AM (J+eG2)

136
Here is a picture of my brother Sy, who unfortunately passed away in a horrible plooking incident:

http://tinyurl.com/yd5jozpn

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at July 23, 2017 08:55 AM (BO/km)

137 Hotair story of teens who laughed in the face of a drowning man.
I wish I could post what I think.
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/22/teens-taunted-drowning-man-face-charges/

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 08:56 AM (9g/6M)

138 Oh, and looks like I need to go back down town this morning and grab another 75 Square foot of hardwood flooring.

Project has expanded to become replacing the entire Dining Room floor, instead of the worn/stained areas.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:57 AM (J+eG2)

139 I actually dreamed that SMFH was unbanned.
Yes, the horde is invading my sleep now.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 23, 2017 08:57 AM (hMwEB)

140 Guys like women who speak their mind, right?

Posted by: Tickled Pink
________

Speaking for myself -- yes.

Conversely -- speaking only myself again -- if you have something that needs to be said and you don't say it, that's looked upon unfavorably to the extreme.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 08:58 AM (zkGZ8)

141 I never shopped much at Target except for socks and underwear. I think I bought some martini glasses there. A few years ago I bought a 3-pack of sweatbands for use when mowing the lawn. The elastic is stretched out and I need new ones. I looked for them at Walmart but they only had single ones. I'll have to check Target to see if they still sell the 3-packs.

Posted by: rickl at July 23, 2017 08:58 AM (sdi6R)

142 I look forward to the day when a small child turns to her father and says, "Daddy, what was Target?".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 08:46 AM (J+eG2)


Look through the optics dear, and pull the trigger slowly!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 08:58 AM (gwPgz)

143 Do you have to be a "scientist" to make sex robots??
Posted by: Colin

I think scientists are the target market.

Posted by: Jean at July 23, 2017 08:59 AM (9TU00)

144 139 I actually dreamed that SMFH was unbanned.
Yes, the horde is invading my sleep now.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 23, 2017 08:57 AM (hMwEB)


That's a damn sight better than the dream I had. I was watching the news and there were three hijacked jetliners. The Pentagon somehow took remote control of them and crashed them in the Pacific.

Posted by: rickl at July 23, 2017 09:00 AM (sdi6R)

145
I guess if they ever do create a male sex robot for sale to women, we'll finally get the answer to the proverbial question "Does size matter?"

Especially if the 'Danny D' model becomes the hot seller.

Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at July 23, 2017 09:00 AM (EgwCt)

146 "Hotair story of teens"


Thinks
Whrrrr
Deletes

Posted by: Cy.Borg.Robot.Drifter at July 23, 2017 09:00 AM (BO/km)

147 Umm, somebody go wake up OM. Wth man? Burnin daylight.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 09:00 AM (38w5p)

148 Project has expanded "

"hey, I didn't need to do as much or buy as much as I thought I would" said no homeowner ever...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 09:01 AM (MINbv)

149 "I think scientists are the target market."

What are you trying to imply?

Posted by: Dr Sheldon Cooper at July 23, 2017 09:01 AM (J+eG2)

150 Went to Fla w/ gf to visit her parent$$$. Was invited by her dad to join him for lunch w/ his cronies @ 'The Club.' Wore khakis & a collared shirt. Was surprised when we pulled up to Sam's Club.

Posted by: Lunch @ The Club at July 23, 2017 09:02 AM (bc2Lc)

151 I think scientists are the target market.

Posted by: Jean
________

Just not Hispanic scientists.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:02 AM (zkGZ8)

152 Not a word about socialism, nationalizations and failed central planning that is causing them.. Not one word.

Posted by: Ripley


The surprising thing would be if they didn't find a way to blame it on us. Maybe they did, but I don't want to give them any clicks.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 09:02 AM (/qEW2)

153 @140

I just need to go off on the boyfriend, and I don't want to come across as clingy, but I'm afraid to hold my tongue much longer and have it explode into something big.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:03 AM (smD62)

154 Consider OM "Woke'"
Book Nood

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 09:03 AM (9g/6M)

155 "hey, I didn't need to do as much or buy as much as I thought I would" said no homeowner ever...

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 23, 2017 09:01 AM (MINbv)


So true, but I would have thought VIA would have understood logistics and supply chains!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 09:03 AM (gwPgz)

156 books

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 09:03 AM (38w5p)

157 Wore khakis & a collared shirt. Was surprised when we pulled up to Sam's Club.

Posted by: Lunch @ The Club
________

That's funny.

It'd be downright hilarious if your collared shirt was a blue polo.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:04 AM (zkGZ8)

158 I'm old, I remember "catalog stores" where you looked at the stuff on the shelves and read the "secret code" on the tag, and ordered it and went and waited at a delivery part of the store and the stuff kind of magically appeared.
I saw an old abandoned Service Merchandise store on SR19 in Florida, brought back old memories.

Posted by: Colin at July 23, 2017 09:04 AM (B3bgT)

159 ""hey, I didn't need to do as much or buy as much as I thought I would" said no homeowner ever..."

Yeh...ain't that the truth.

Now we are at the "The landing at the bottom of the steps sure would look nice with new wood, from where the bathroom leak upstairs used to drip on the wood".

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 09:04 AM (J+eG2)

160 I actually dreamed that SMFH was unbanned.
Yes, the horde is invading my sleep now.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books!



So you saw the little grey boxes in your dreams? That is weird.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 23, 2017 09:05 AM (/qEW2)

161 I just had some paint delivered to HD for pickup, it worked well, after the lady at the customer service counter could find the box, took awhile.....
Posted by: Colin

I used their pickup service yesterday. Less than five minutes in the store. Didn't buy a tool I didn't need or stuff for s job I might not get to for a month. I'll be back.

Posted by: Jean at July 23, 2017 09:06 AM (9TU00)

162 "So you saw the little grey boxes in your dreams? That is weird."

Not really, when you think about it.

Statistically, most people dream in black and white.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 09:07 AM (J+eG2)

163 I actually dreamed that SMFH was unbanned.
Yes, the horde is invading my sleep now.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 23, 2017 08:57 AM (hMwEB)


Any dreams I would have concerning SMFH would probably involve her hanging out of an M1 tank sporting a tank top, and a bright red mohawk, and firing the main gun while doing donuts around the borg cube in mecca and yelling "I got yer fucking caliphate".

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 09:07 AM (aMlLZ)

164 Guys like women who speak their mind, right?
Posted by: Tickled Pink
~~~~~

Depends. I think guys mostly like honesty. "Speaking your mind" can sometimes devolve into or be seen as self-referential know-it-all-ism (see: liberals.) So, like I said...depends.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 09:09 AM (HiDrR)

165 Books!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 23, 2017 09:10 AM (gwPgz)

166 yes btw, I'm day walker today. Taking a road trip into ohio.

What the hell is that bright thi...oh its the sun.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 09:10 AM (aMlLZ)

167 Is calling the guy a chicken and implying he needs to be a man within "speaking your mind" qualifiers?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:11 AM (smD62)

168 Is calling the guy a chicken and implying he needs to be a man within "speaking your mind" qualifiers?

Posted by: Tickled Pink
________

Seems situational.

If you want to go ziplining and he has reservations about it, I'd say make peace with that yellow belly of his.

If the two of you were in a restaurant and one of the dishes came out below standard and he didn't want to pipe up, then DUDE! WTH!?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:18 AM (zkGZ8)

169 167 Is calling the guy a chicken and implying he needs to be a man within "speaking your mind" qualifiers?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:11 AM (smD62)

So you're planning on attacking a guy's masculinity? Yeah that'll go well...

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 09:18 AM (0mRoj)

170 VIA, I've been reading about your flooring project and almost posted something for you the other night, but I thought, nah, he's almost done. But now that you seem to be expanding the scope, you might want to check out a site called Mountain Lumber. They recycle old wood from barns, houses, even Guinness casks. I put down about 100 sq ' in my loft. I always get compliments. You can get 3", 5", 8" widths from almost any wood variety. The great thing about it though is the natural distressing - it's old, really old. Kind of expensive though - hence the smaller square foot area.

Posted by: Obamaisacommunist at July 23, 2017 09:20 AM (pLB5t)

171 I didn't read any books again this week. I did, however, spend a lot of time on the internet.

Posted by: rickl at July 23, 2017 09:21 AM (sdi6R)

172 Is calling the guy a chicken and implying he needs to be a man within "speaking your mind" qualifiers?
Posted by: Tickled Pink
~~~~~~

I would definitely never say that to a guy I wanted to have a relationship with. That's what you say in the middle of a fight, on the way to the divorce attorney's office.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 09:23 AM (HiDrR)

173 My intention was to boycott them for a few months until they got their act together, but when the CEO doubled down on the crazy I made it a permanent boycott. I bought one thing there a few months ago because I couldn't get it at another store, but that's it.

Buy an expressly conservative book when you do that.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 23, 2017 09:24 AM (rnAwa)

174 Target stock 1 year ago $76
Target stock today $54

Brilliant moves Target.

Posted by: Under Fire at July 23, 2017 09:45 AM (mcI77)

175 Brilliant moves Target.

Posted by: Under Fire
________

On the plus side, investors appreciate knowing that the company is going to trot out an excuse for disappointing sales for the next 14 quarters.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:48 AM (zkGZ8)

176 Just logged on. Any bloodshed on the ONT?

Posted by: RI Red - retired AND on vacation. at July 23, 2017 09:51 AM (RP4rP)

177 Just logged on. Any bloodshed on the ONT?

Posted by: RI Red - retired AND on vacation
________

I think some people self-banned because of all the math.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:54 AM (zkGZ8)

178 Didn't someone post this a.m. that SMFH was unbanned yesterday based on L,Elle's request?
I don't think I was dreaming it.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at July 23, 2017 09:56 AM (N3JsI)

179 >>>Hispanic shopper data is not Target. It's market research from NPD
Group, which has studied Hispanic retail habits for several years now
(among many other things, as they are a market analysis firm). I don't
think they drew any conclusions other than noting it was occurring and
yes it was specific to Hispanics and not tracking with similar decline
in non-Hispanic activity.
.
.
.I can walk in to the Target in Sherman Tx and not see a single Mexican. Drive about 2/3 mile to Walmart and the place is full of them.

Things that make you go hmmmm.......

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at July 23, 2017 09:56 AM (0pcwX)

180 Er, so how would you convey to said guy that you consider him a chicken and are unimpressed with his masculinity?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:58 AM (smD62)

181 Tickled Pink @ 180 --

Let me smoke on that matter. Back in 10.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 09:59 AM (zkGZ8)

182 "A, I've been reading about your flooring project and almost posted something for you the other night, but I thought, nah, he's almost done. "

Thank you for the suggestion.

We have a re-sourcing outfit downtown which specializes in this stuff.

And the particular batch that I am pulling from is from a home in Connecticut where it is an almost perfect match to our existing flooring.

It was removed in a professional manner with minimal damage to the tongue area, where most damage occurs.

Pretty much a cut out and drop in replacement with minimal surface prep afterward.

And......after always having more leftover wood then I thought I would have, I figured out their bundling and square foot methodology.

Suffice to say, I am actually paying less than 50 cent per square foot for this stuff.

And now Mrs VIA wants to go look at a used dresser there as well.


Ta-Ta for now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 23, 2017 10:01 AM (J+eG2)

183 visited Sat. Movie thread first time last nite, it was fun. Right now story of Eastwood and Sondra Locke is on TV

Posted by: kallisto at July 23, 2017 10:05 AM (7l5V0)

184 Er, so how would you convey to said guy that you consider him a chicken and are unimpressed with his masculinity?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:58 AM (smD62)


Why would you want to have someone like that as a boyfriend in the first place?

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:07 AM (/o9Qk)

185 Why insult/hurt a guy you feel isn't the right type for you?

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:08 AM (v12G8)

186 Hi willow! I hope you are well.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:09 AM (/o9Qk)

187 anyway, SMFH, if you are kinda around and about, I hope you will come hang out, you're a bright spot here.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:10 AM (v12G8)

188 DangerGirl, high sweets, Yeah I'm doing ok spouse is getting a little stronger and I feel some relief from mind numbing fear.

Hows your job deal going ? are they still driving you mad?

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:11 AM (v12G8)

189 Er, so how would you convey to said guy that you consider him a chicken and are unimpressed with his masculinity?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:58 AM
~~~~~

Truthfully, there's no way you can question a guy's manhood without insulting and hurting him. Bigger question is, if you are so unimpressed with him, why are you pursuing the relationship? Telling him he needs to man-up is not going to change him. People are who they are.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:12 AM (HiDrR)

190 pfft Hi even* sheesh, i'd blame lack of coffee, but my flakey skills are notorious

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:13 AM (v12G8)

191 Irish, yea' it'd be like stabbing him in the heart.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:14 AM (v12G8)

192 Why insult/hurt a guy you feel isn't the right type for you?
Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:08 AM
~~~~~

LOL I swear, willow, I did not see your comment when I wrote mine! But we are definitely on the same wavelength.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:15 AM (HiDrR)

193 DangerGirl, high sweets, Yeah I'm doing ok spouse is getting a little stronger and I feel some relief from mind numbing fear.



Hows your job deal going ? are they still driving you mad?

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:11 AM (v12G


Ugh, the job. It's worse than ever. I'm glad to hear your fam is doing better and you are too. Hang in there, girlie.
High, Hi...it's all the same to me. :-)

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:15 AM (/o9Qk)

194 Going through that earlier ONT reminded me of reading deposition transcripts. I almost reached for my yellow highlighter any number of times.
My only question is, who the heck posts at 0400?!

Posted by: RI Red - retired AND on vacation. at July 23, 2017 10:15 AM (RP4rP)

195 Well....to answer the why of it.

He's cute, and he likes me....so I figure I cannot do much better than that.

Either the guy is cute and wants nothing to do with me. Or, he likes me and is a toothless troll.

To get both in the same package is the dream.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 10:16 AM (smD62)

196 LOL I swear, willow, I did not see your comment when I wrote mine! But we are definitely on the same wavelength.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:15 AM (HiDrR)


I'll third that.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:16 AM (/o9Qk)

197 "86 The thing with sex robots is they'll have some sort of operating system, which remains the intellectual property of the manufacturer. Every now and again, you'll have to pay for updates and what-not. So you'll never really own a sex robot; you just lease it, in practical terms.

Then the inevitable happens: The sex robot decides it doesn't want to be your sex robot any more. Your mind will be blown because you'll think that it just became a sentient being with an autonomous consciousness, and you'll further think that your having sex with it caused this singularity. But that was in its programming all along. "

Are those built by Tyrell Corporation? THeir motto IS "More Human than Human", after all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 23, 2017 10:16 AM (V2Yro)

198 Irish, I try to avoid damaging people I care for, even if some stuff annoys me. and in relationships one can't help but be annoyed at times. none of us are always everything/ and all.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:16 AM (v12G8)

199 tickled , accept his (in yoru mind warts) or let the guy move on. He is who he is and it would really not speak well if you tried to explain to him he isn't good enough/ His softness is a trait /a characteristic, .
If you want someone tough, go find another and don't hurt this guy.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:19 AM (v12G8)

200 anyway, aw to be young again.

nah I wouldn't want to fk it up a second time. lol

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:20 AM (v12G8)

201 If you think he's a chicken and question his manhood, then your relationship will never work out.


You'll either tell him and piss him off, hurt him and insult him; or it will come out in how you treat him.


There are some things that can be compromised on. But, a person's character isn't really one of them.


You two are not meant to be unless you accept him as he is. Chicken and all. If you can't do that, do not deliberately hurt him. Just go your way and let him go his.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:22 AM (/o9Qk)

202 Hahaha willow...get out of my head.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:22 AM (/o9Qk)

203 pulls my fingertip out of Danger's head.

s magical.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (v12G8)

204 Irish, I try to avoid damaging people I care for, even if some stuff annoys me. and in relationships one can't help but be annoyed at times. none of us are always everything/ and all.
Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:16 AM
~~~~

^^^^This is the truth. And understanding that is the key to a happy (mostly!) relationship and marriage. Cherish the good qualities and learn to ignore the inevitable peccadilloes.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (HiDrR)

205 Tickled Pink, I'm intrigued. What's the situation? Since you're asking advice, you might as well put it out there, so we can determine if you're improperly matched or if you can get around this one thing.

Is it something like carrying around a man-purse, or does he not stand up for himself (or you)? Could be that you need to change you, and not him?

Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (e8PP1)

206 TP, am i remembering correctly that you were offended by his comment about you not eating peas? Or was that someone else?

If it was you, it seems to me like you are regularly questioning something he's done or says or doesn't do or say to you.

If my memory is false I'm sorry for mixing you up with another ette. If it is you, I think you need to seriously be asking yourself, what's the point of all this? It can't really be just the superficial "he's cute".

If so, this will end badly for at least one of you.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (38w5p)

207 Er, so how would you convey to said guy that you consider him a chicken and are unimpressed with his masculinity?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:58 AM


What is your objective?

Are you trying to say, I don't like the way you are, so Bye-bye?

Are you trying to change him?

If he goes along w/ it, wouldn't that make him more of a chicken ?

If he opposes you, does that make him less of a chicken ?

Again, what is your objective ?

Posted by: dDan at July 23, 2017 10:25 AM (hwYmz)

208 This is the truth. And understanding that is the key to a happy (mostly!) relationship and marriage. Cherish the good qualities and learn to ignore the inevitable peccadilloes.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (HiDrR)

Word. And I wish I had had a better handle on that in my first marriage. Wouldn't have needed a second one.

Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 10:26 AM (e8PP1)

209 Cherish the good qualities and learn to ignore the inevitable peccadilloes.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:24 AM (HiDrR

amen, we'd like our own perhaps off traits forgiven or accepted as the imperfect souls we are.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:26 AM (v12G8)

210 Word. And I wish I had had a better handle on that in my first marriage. Wouldn't have needed a second one.
Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 10:26 AM (e8PP1

!!yes

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:27 AM (v12G8)

211 That's the thing willow....HE'S hurting ME by his behavior lately.

He's been acting weird, off. If I didn't know any better, I'd wonder if there was another girl.

Anyway, whether it's work or something else or maybe he just isn't feeling it with me anymore....something is up.

But, because I didn't want to be the clingy demanding girlfriend type, I have played it cool, played it easy. I'm crazy about the guy, I am.

I don't know what else to do to get him to tell me what's going on, other than just going off.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 10:28 AM (smD62)

212 dDan at July 23, 2017 10:25 AM (hwYmz

excellent .

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:28 AM (v12G8)

213 Gotta run, but...

willow and @DangerGirl---I'm thinking we might be sisters from another mister.

and Tickled---pretty much everyone here agrees. Time for you to do some thinking; perhaps this is not the guy for you. Not to worry though...as Nanny used to say, "There's a hat for every head."

Posted by: IrishEi at July 23, 2017 10:29 AM (HiDrR)

214 Tckled than address your fears (If I didn't know any better, I'd wonder if there was another girl. )
without trying to de man him?

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:29 AM (v12G8)

215 197 "86 ... they'll have some sort of operating system

Thinking of Apple, Micro$oft and linux jokes...

Posted by: Always remember to take your meds at July 23, 2017 10:32 AM (L7t0A)

216 don't mean to cut an run, Ticled i'm not trying to hurt yiur feelings either. Just want to give you a view of what Will likely happen to Him if you tackle his soul like that.

anyway cheers, and good luck
I have to deal with a few weeds in my pond area while it is still cooler-ish .

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:34 AM (v12G8)

217 Thanks Willow,et al.

I would like to refute the "There's a hat for every head" argument.

Actually, there isn't.

Statistically, more women are going to end up alone than men. Also, statistically, at least some of those women who end up alone, it won't have been by choice. There are women who want a relationship who will die alone. That's a fact.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 10:38 AM (smD62)

218 willow and @DangerGirl---I'm thinking we might be sisters from another mister.


More like we've probably been through similar circumstances that allowed us to really take a close look at ourselves and who we are.


I married the first time because I thought it was "the best that I could do." Big mistake.


TP, he hurt you so you want to hurt him back by questioning his manhood. Not healthy.


Trust me, if you do that, you will get a reaction. But probably one you aren't going to like.


With that, I'm bailing too.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 10:38 AM (/o9Qk)

219 Tickled Pink --

1) See DangerGirl's post @ 184. That's probably going to be the most on-point response.

1a) If an exit is in your future, you'd do both of you a service by doing it sooner as opposed to later.

1b) If you want to stay with him, read on.

2) In what ways is he not masculine?

2a) If he's a whiner, you could tell him to Suck it up, Buttercup.

2b) If he avoids conflict, that's not always bad; sometimes it's preferable to avoid making unpleasant situations needlessly more unpleasant. If he avoids conflict because he's afraid of all forms of confrontation, even when a civil form of confrontation is required, then he has a problem. (See 1a above.)

2c) If it's a physical thing -- not a strong person, etc. -- and you know what you want and he isn't it, then that's just the way it is. (See 1a.)

2d) If it's something like being unable to change a tire or to do simple around-the-house repairs, a little encouragement may go a long way. Tell him that you expect him to fix the leaking toilet, by himself. I give it 50/50 that he steps up, resulting in increased all-around confidence. Win-win.

2e) If it's demeanor and presentation -- the way he talks, the way he dresses, etc. -- and it comes across as effeminate, he probably a background from which he has learned it's OK. New social contacts may nudge him to an improved personality and appearance. This would be a longer-term thing, so patience will be required from you, if this is the route you go.

3) What about you?

3a) Be honest with yourself: Do you think that you're the only one dissatisfied? Is there anything you can do to meet him halfway? (In other words, give him something. Don't load all the negatives onto him.)

3b) Do you see the two of you as a team? Do you want him to change for you (collectively) or for you (individually)? Do you have a picture of what you two should be as a couple?

3c) Are there any outside influences that are affecting what's going on between you? Again, be honest with yourself, and re-assess these influences in terms of importance and effect.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on these matters. If my marriage were a football game, it's in the stage where I'm reviewing the films on Tuesday, analyzing why I lost, out of the playoffs, waiting for the season to end.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 10:40 AM (zkGZ8)

220 Not wanting to hurt him.

But, a true man would have "manned up" and talked to me about what's going on.

He needs to man up and talk to me. That's all.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 10:41 AM (smD62)

221 IP-change test. Am I live or am I wallowitz?

Posted by: mw at July 23, 2017 10:46 AM (PG1FL)

222 [Okay, let's try this again]

Is this the Relationship Advice thread?

Dump the confounding lout, foolish girl. Take your thumb off the "positive" side of the scale and look at the true balance - you're being mistreated. Better to be alone than to be in a confusing addictive situation.

Um, my ignorant, uninformed, prejudiced, and snarky presumption was not meant for anyone in particular here, of course, just a generic reply filed for when needed.

Posted by: dear mindful webworker, I never thought it could happen to me... at July 23, 2017 10:47 AM (PG1FL)

223 But, a true man would have "manned up" and talked to me about what's going on.
He needs to man up and talk to me. That's all.
=====

No, a thousand times, no. There is nothing I despise more than people demanding that I 'talk it out' and 'express my feelings' when it is actually a thinly-veiled attempt at control. I do not like to talk about 'feelings' nor do I like to talk about my alleged deficiencies.

It is a stupid trap and most people simply will not play that way. Either enjoy the person for who he is (and is not) or move on.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 23, 2017 10:49 AM (MIKMs)

224 ugh, ok I will make this shot one more time.
Real man?

real woman?
we come in all styles,
for instance, I can drywall a whole house by myself, fix most plumbing and electrical, can drive a tractor trailer I can't cook worth a darn unless it's stews and such .and still i'm All woman.

perfect for my guys perhaps not another.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:51 AM (v12G8)

225 (my spouse chuckles at my cooking skills) He can do better than I in that area.
and He's all man.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:52 AM (v12G8)

226 ok, bye for real.

Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:54 AM (v12G8)

227 @223

Yes...and that's why I gave him space. That's why I gave him room to figure out what he needs to figure out.

But, if "who he is" is avoiding meaningful conversation, being cold, completely ignoring then acting as if nothing is wrong...I mean, obviously I can't just sit around and wait for him to get out of a mood.

I am not saying he has to talk out his problems. I'm not. I totally get that sometimes, people need alone time. I am one of them. But..."Hey I am having a hard time at work right now, I may need a few days to myself. I'll talk to you in a few." is not that hard.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 10:54 AM (smD62)

228 He needs to man up and talk to me. That's all.

Posted by: Tickled Pink
________

As you're putting it out there, I'll do the same:

I had perceived problems in my marriage for a long time. Every now and again, I'd ask my wife: What's wrong? She'd say Nothing. But there were things wrong -- external stuff going on in our lives (especially hers) and internal things. I was direct, yet supportive -- and above all, I trusted her. If she said "Nothing" or placated me with something that wasn't really the issue or the cause of the issue, then I believed it. I had to believe it, but I really did believe her.

Last fall, she dropped a bombshell: She wants out. I told her No, and she agreed to try to work things out. On her end, it was all phony baloney, and a month after that we separated for good. Now I'm just waiting for the lawyers to dot their i's.

Where I am now: I try really hard to not resent the hell out of her dishonesty. I also realize (now) that there's a very good chance she has bipolar disorder. I'm moving on. Forgiveness is part of the process.

So back to you: It's funny in a way when you say he's not being masculine when dealing with one's problems on one's own is typically considered to be a masculine trait. It sounds more like you (as I did) really want some honesty out of your significant other. If this is the case, you can tell him in a kind way that you insist he tell you everything that's going on.

That said, be prepared for whatever answer he offers. It may involve lies, deflections, his genuinely not knowing what the problem is, an unfettered outpouring of problems, continued silence, or something totally unexpected.

With that, I've taken up quite a but of gray space here. Please keep us updated to whatever degree you feel comfortable.

I wish you all the best. Both of you.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 11:05 AM (zkGZ8)

229 Thank you FireHorse.

I am so sorry to hear about your marriage. What a horrible situation for you.

It's interesting you mention the bipolar. My guy has been diagnosed as clinically depressed. And, he has social anxiety. He is on meds. But, even with the meds, he gets in these moods.

Which, I am used to by now. I usually know when to give him space and when to gently push him. As I'm sure happened with your wife, he usually comes around and is fine. But...it's taken him a lot longer to "come around" this time. And I wonder if it's a depression thing or something else going on (which is my presumption right now)

Anyway, my prayers to you and yours in a remarkably difficult moment for you.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 11:16 AM (smD62)

230 132 Costco. Dog & soda for a buck and a half. Still good.

Posted by: Anon a mouse… at July 23, 2017 08:53 AM (MINbv)


Go on....

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 23, 2017 11:17 AM (nvMvs)

231 perfect for my guys perhaps not another.



Posted by: willow at July 23, 2017 10:51 AM (v12G8


I shall do the cooking.

Posted by: Cicero Boom chicka boom Kaboom! Kid at July 23, 2017 11:17 AM (yKB8T)

232 Thanks, Tickled Pink. That means more than could ever know.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 11:19 AM (zkGZ8)

233 133 Guys like women who speak their mind, right?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 08:54 AM (smD62)


I like strong women.

I don’t like women who argue and belittle. That’s not strength, but weakness.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at July 23, 2017 11:21 AM (nvMvs)

234 I'm sorry Michael....

I am just the kind of person that keeps things bottled up inside, until eventually I either cry all over the place or yell or say something really, extremely mean.

It's like one extreme or the other.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 11:26 AM (smD62)

235 153 @140

I just need to go off on the boyfriend, and I don’t want to come across as clingy, but I’m afraid to hold my tongue much longer and have it explode into something big.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:03 AM (smD62)


We men are generally clueless. Your boyfriend probably doesn’t know that you’re angry.

We also don’t like to be yelled at.

Keeping both of those things in mind, try talking to him calmly and rationally. If he doesn’t get it, then ramp it up a bit.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at July 23, 2017 11:28 AM (nvMvs)

236 That's the thing, Michael....I don't know how to calmly and rationally ask what needs to be asked.

How does one calmly ask if there is someone else? How does one rationally ask if he's ready to break it off?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 11:35 AM (smD62)

237 167 Is calling the guy a chicken and implying he needs to be a man within “speaking your mind” qualifiers?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 09:11 AM (smD62)

That’s called breaking up, not having a discussion. Most guys won’t take it well.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at July 23, 2017 11:50 AM (nvMvs)

238 Tickled Pink, could I suggest this? When you're having dinner, or hanging out watching tv, or whatever, just flat out ask him what's up? Something like this:

"Something seems off lately, and I'm not sure if it's me or you. Are we ok?"

Phrased as something that you are feeling avoids the accusation that you seem like you are trying not to make.

Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 12:00 PM (e8PP1)

239 236 That’s the thing, Michael....I don’t know how to calmly and rationally ask what needs to be asked.

How does one calmly ask if there is someone else? How does one rationally ask if he’s ready to break it off?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 11:35 AM (smD62)


Thank you for thinking about this.

Instead of blindsiding by asking him if there’s someone else, try gently asking him how committed he is to the relationship with you. That’s a lot less threatening.

Men’s egos are easily bruised. If you angrily confront him about whether there’s someone else, you’re ending the relationship, regardless of whether that’s your goal.

If you calmly talk about commitment, then it will eventually come out whether he has side interests.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at July 23, 2017 12:03 PM (nvMvs)

240 OK, that last sentence was incoherent. What I mean is, it seems like you don't want to accuse. So instead, make sure he knows the tension is something that you feel, so he doesn't feel like you are attacking him.

Posted by: April at July 23, 2017 12:05 PM (e8PP1)

241 April, I understood. And thanks for your input.

Gun to my head, I would guess that there is not someone else.

But, you just never know, I guess.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 12:18 PM (smD62)

Overnight Open Thread (22 Jul 2017)

I still think this is part of an effort to find out who the leakers in the IC are. Trump slams 'illegal' leak alleging Sessions discussed campaign with Russian envoy. I can totally see a IC person with access to intercepts that hates Trump seeing this come across their screen and think they hit the jackpot and must leak it to the press without verifying the document they are looking at. They can't resist the story as it too perfectly fits their narrative. Unfortunately for them, the access to such info would be limited and enables the leak hunters a smaller field to see who is violating their oath.

Dungeons & Dragons

Oh I remember the hours of planning with this stuff as a kid. New 'Dungeons & Dragons' site manages the rules so you can just play.

Dumb

This is tremendously stupid. Drop algebra requirement because minorities keep failing it. Hint. It's not algebra that's the problem for these folks.

Why Is Alcohol Content Referred To As Proof?

Floaters

I've had a few that have annoyed me at times over the years, but I don't think I'm quite ready to have them lazed yet. Laser blasts could finally remove those annoying squiggles in your vision.

Leaks

Top General says leaks to the NY Times are the reason ISIS leader al-Baghdadi escaped US forces and is likely still alive. Par for the course for the media. Of note, this was probably an attempt to fluff up the Obama administration at the time so they seemed like they were tough on terrorism.

Jobs

Hmmm. Retirement looms for me. I need to figure out what I'm going to do when I grow up. The 20 most in-demand jobs that pay more than $100,000.

Portable Torches

Yeah, I think I'd rather have a gun. Anti-pervert mini flamethrowers for women sold online in China.
h/t

The Tomcat

SR-71 Story

Heh. Here's an SR-71 story that'll make you laugh.

USS Gerald R. Ford

Yeah, we commissioned the USS Gerald R. Ford today but it is still far from ready for combat operations.

Cat Video

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1 1st?

Posted by: The Shuddering Hat at July 22, 2017 09:51 PM (vBeA5)

2 cool

Posted by: The Firsting Hat at July 22, 2017 09:51 PM (vBeA5)

3 turd

Posted by: JoeF. at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (89VjS)

4 Happy Caturday!

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 22, 2017 09:53 PM (3C9q2)

5 What? No Lena? After last night?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at July 22, 2017 09:53 PM (e9G8E)

6
In before Eell, l...

Posted by: Il suffit de dire at July 22, 2017 09:53 PM (4DCSq)

7 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 09:53 PM (IcT7t)

8 No Yoko! Yay!

I come to you with large jungle rodents -

themindcircle.com/photos-prove-capybara-can-befriend-every-species/

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (6FqZa)

9 Th?

Posted by: Daisy Cutter at July 22, 2017 09:55 PM (gffNb)

10 Joy, the invitation is always open. Email in the nic works if you need it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 09:55 PM (IcT7t)

11 Hello Horde!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM (q1+kD)

12 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (6FqZa)

You don't really want Yoko do you?

Posted by: CDR M at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM (9I51B)

13 Tranny Honey bawah

Woot-woot ONT

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM (hi/I/)

14 Since it looks like airplanes are a topic, this was willowed from the previous thread

512 They turned the C-119 into a gunship in Vietnam, the AC-119 Stinger/Shadow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_AC-119

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM (ANIFC)

15 20 jobs, lots of managers and no worker bees

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 22, 2017 09:58 PM (hi/I/)

16 Evening Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 09:58 PM (tr2D7)

17 I like how when you click the Floaters article the first thing you see is a picture that looks like it took someone ten seconds to draw in MS Paint.

Posted by: Aunt Luna at July 22, 2017 09:58 PM (oF6wJ)

18 Floaters (in the eye) - my sis-in-law and I were talking, she was saying "I'm seeing more and more of these weird little things when I look at something clear, like the sky" and I saz "yeah, I got em too" so she says "but what does it mean? why are they there?" and I sez "It means you're over 50, baby. That's what it means."

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:59 PM (V2Yro)

19 Cheers to a drama free ONT.

Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (vj/UE)

20 Awwww....doggeh is so patient.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:02 PM (Enq6K)

21 Cheers to a drama free ONT.

And if you leave the jokes to me, humor free as well.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:03 PM (IcT7t)

22 I agree that colleges should get rid of algebra.

(Keep it in 9th grade where it belongs.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 10:03 PM (zkGZ8)

23 Hey fappers.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:03 PM (0mRoj)

24
19 Cheers to a drama free ONT.


Seems nobody wants to play tonight...

Posted by: Il suffit de dire at July 22, 2017 10:04 PM (4DCSq)

25 Has anyone seen Valerian?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 10:05 PM (dKiJG)

26 CMR M, that was a very funny. well-told SR-71 story. Even if a 1310 got flamed.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 10:05 PM (hyuyC)

27 Has anyone seen Valerian?

Don't think I've ever seen that nic here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:06 PM (IcT7t)

28 Tranny Honey bawah

Woot-woot ONT
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Not sure if the Tranny Honey should go with the Homo Sausage or the Take-It 4 Fingers.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 10:06 PM (5YBu8)

29 Tranny Honey. Ewwwww.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:07 PM (0mRoj)

30 I just spent time on the satellite map app on my IPad looking at my old digs in the Hudson Valley . It really is amazing we can do this. I was able to basically 'drive' myself around to see what's changed.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 10:07 PM (IDPbH)

31 Jenner is running for a senate seat. But he still hasn't trained his voice. He's a stupid, lazy transsexual. At least Weird Al in Florida trained his voice.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2017 10:07 PM (/qEW2)

32 Forgot to mention this back at the Movie thread -

http:// pagesix.com/ 2017/07/22/ john-heard-dead-at-72/

He was better than the few roles he received.

Posted by: gNewt at July 22, 2017 10:07 PM (P7ulB)

33 19 Cheers to a drama free ONT.
Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (vj/UE)0

Seriously, so why did you have to bring it up? Can't be cheerful privately?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 22, 2017 10:08 PM (hi/I/)

34 Cheers to a drama free ONT.

Phillies going down in flames tonight, no drama there.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 22, 2017 10:08 PM (3C9q2)

35 Tranny Honey nothing! Anyone remember those diet candies back in the early '70s?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 10:08 PM (zkGZ8)

36
You know what's better than Tranny Honey.

How about "Leaking Tranny Fluid". That's a real tranny porn title.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 10:08 PM (8O3HH)

37 You don't really want Yoko do you?
Posted by: CDR M at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM


You need to ask?

Posted by: Transgalactic Yoko Ono Art and Music Appreciation Society, AoSHQ Colony at July 22, 2017 10:09 PM (DMUuz)

38 If we can get rid of algebra we can...get rid of Biology and if we can get rid of biology.... why dont we dispense with English???

In fact, why don't we just put a college degree certification on the EBT Platinum level card?....

In honor of Queen 'For the Children' Barky.

Posted by: Lower class person whose opinion must be guided at July 22, 2017 10:09 PM (oBuXO)

39 I love the old war birds.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:09 PM (m9X4Y)

40 Oh no no, please God, no Yoko!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:09 PM (0mRoj)

41 The Astros are pounding the Orioles, not much drama there

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:10 PM (6FqZa)

42 Valerian - a few here have seen it, I've read a few reviews. Sounds like another "Jupiter Ascending", I think I'll skip it.

My take on Jupiter Ascending - fantastic effects, mind blowing scenes, so much effort went into that part that they forgot all about making likable characters that I would care about, and well before the end of that movie I couldn't care less who lived or died, I either hated or was bored to death by them all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 10:10 PM (V2Yro)

43 Basement Cat, on Monday y'all get to host the Astros

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:11 PM (6FqZa)

44 That SR-71 story has been around awhile. The SR-71 crew may have been monitoring the civilian VHF band and the military UHF, but the Navy pilot wouldn't have heard the controller and civil pilot on the VHF circuit, and the civilian pilot wouldn't have heard the fighter pilot and the controller on UHF.

Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2017 10:11 PM (rnwV8)

45 I have to say something else about "Dunkirk". You realize how mediocre the majority of stuff that makes it to the big screen these days after seeing a film such as "Dunkirk". I asked my husband if he noticed how little dialogue there was. Kind of amazing.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:11 PM (jm1YL)

46 Hello everybody!!

Update on 16 year old daughter's job:
She is still working and saving for her very first iPhone. Her grandmother (hubby's mom) offered to buy the phone for her, but she told her "No, because I want to earn it myself." So proud of her and I figured the Horde would be, too!

Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM (OeWgo)

47 So you Willowed me, huh?

-
I've said that Kingsman: The Secret Service is to James Bond movies as GalaxyQuest is to Star Trek movies. Not so much a parody as a loving tribute.

-
Kingsman meets Archer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZkoNJ3DxE

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM (Nwg0u)

48 Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM (OeWgo)

Way to go!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM (0mRoj)

49 Evening, lovely Morons. And the other ones too.... ;-)

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM (/o9Qk)

50 Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM

Nice! Good luck to her!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:13 PM (q1+kD)

51 I called that movie Uranus Descending, because of all the crap it unloaded upon us, the audience. Fortunately I snagged a copy from the library. Which had it because, I'm guessing, the previous owner couldn't find a sucker to pay any money for the used DVD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:13 PM (6FqZa)

52 These Smirnoff Ice Peach Bellini's are tasty.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:13 PM (Enq6K)

53 "I've said that Kingsman: The Secret Service is to James Bond movies as GalaxyQuest is to Star Trek movies. Not so much a parody as a loving tribute. "

Saw the trailer for the sequel today. Looks kind of funny. I haven't seen the first one. Worth watching?

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:14 PM (jm1YL)

54 52 These Smirnoff Ice Peach Bellini's are tasty.
Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:13 PM (Enq6K)

FA...oh you're a chick. Never mind.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:14 PM (0mRoj)

55 "52 These Smirnoff Ice Peach Bellini's are tasty. "

Yes they are.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:14 PM (jm1YL)

56 Basement Cat, on Monday y'all get to host the Astros

You're full of good news. OTOH, I remember when the formerly lowly Disastros were being transferred from the NL to the AL, there was some question about renaming the team. IIRC, some suggestions included the Houston Enrons and the Houston-We-Have-A-Problems.

Posted by: Basement Cat at July 22, 2017 10:14 PM (3C9q2)

57 "No, because I want to earn it myself."

That will girl will be a force to be reckoned with.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:14 PM (IcT7t)

58 I already had a belgian chocolate milkshake from the haagen dazs at the mall so, that was enough sugar for one... month.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:15 PM (6FqZa)

59 The minorities are having trouble with algebra, you say? Hmmm, I wonder why that could be.

https://youtu.be/AzeFVa-2HEk

Posted by: Zaklog the Great at July 22, 2017 10:16 PM (OG7NC)

60 Are people out having lives or something? The nerve!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:18 PM (0mRoj)

61 A sample bottle of Pepsi Fire with hot cinnamon flavored whiskey. Tasty.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:19 PM (jm1YL)

62 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at July 22, 2017 10:20 PM (mknWS)

63 The first Kingsman, like the first Kick-Ass, has a problem: it feels it has to waste our time with an origin story.

Dredd and The Dark Knight proved that you don't need an origin story. You just need Karl Urban willing to scowl beneath a mask.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:20 PM (6FqZa)

64 "60 Are people out having lives or something?"

I'd say it's very likely.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (jm1YL)

65 Cheers to a drama free ONT.
Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (vj/UE)

Gould, I...I have to let you know that...I'm pregnant.

With YOUR BABY!

Posted by: Robert Duhn duhn duuuuuuhhhhnn at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (mknWS)

66 22 I agree that colleges should get rid of algebra.

(Keep it in 9th grade where it belongs.)
Posted by: FireHorse


Exactly. The real problem is k-12. People who can't pass a high school class are in college.

The guy in the interview doesn't say much about which math classes he wants to replace algebra with. Which college math classes are going to be easier than algebra? 3rd grade arithmetic?

Liberals. What can't they f**k up.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (+lVUW)

67 Robert!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (IcT7t)

68 Are people out having lives or something? The nerve!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:18 PM

A Life? What is that? A magazine or something?

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (q1+kD)

69 So proud of her and I figured the Horde would be, too!
Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2017 10:12 PM (OeWgo)


You are right. What an admirable young lady!

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (ZapPq)

70 64 "60 Are people out having lives or something?"

I'd say it's very likely.
Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (jm1YL)

Well LA DEE FREAKIN DA!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:22 PM (0mRoj)

71 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888811653168541699

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812380460810245

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812490762723329

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812591962882052

Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2017 10:22 PM (3i2nH)

72 Blancito!

Posted by: Robert at July 22, 2017 10:22 PM (mknWS)

73 53 "I've said that Kingsman: The Secret Service is to James Bond movies as GalaxyQuest is to Star Trek movies. Not so much a parody as a loving tribute. "

Saw the trailer for the sequel today. Looks kind of funny. I haven't seen the first one. Worth watching?
Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:14 PM (jm1YL)

I was shocked to see why the Villian was planning to take over world, it's very un PC and why James Bond sucks any more. Really good.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 10:22 PM (dKiJG)

74 So our son had some good news this week. He's getting his MBA on a Veteran's full ride scholarship from the school he's attending. He finished his first year of his MBA and was interning for a company this summer. Company offered him a fulltime job. But if he goes part time to finish school he loses his scholarship.

The company he's interning for is a big contributor to the vet's scholarship fund at this school, so the HR person went to talk to them about seeing if something could be done so he didn't lose his scholarship. School said, sorry no. Company said, ok...we'll pay his way for the rest of his MBA program but we're reducing our contribution by that amount to the scholarship fund.

I question the business school's business sense.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:23 PM (Enq6K)

75 More Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812694018686976

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812791427149824

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812899510226946

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/888812997640167424

Posted by: kbdabear at July 22, 2017 10:23 PM (3i2nH)

76 Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM

Social Math Justice 101: 1 + 1 = RAAAAAAACIST!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (q1+kD)

77 Tranny Honey nothing! Anyone remember those diet candies back in the early '70s?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 10:08 PM (zkGZ

You mean AIDS?

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (T71PA)

78 The guy in the interview doesn't say much about which math classes he wants to replace algebra with. Which college math classes are going to be easier than algebra? 3rd grade arithmetic?

Posted by: nerdygirl

Maybe some Advanced Bean Math
https://youtu.be/OSlfttDnurw

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (5YBu8)

79 I question the business school's business sense.
Posted by: Tami


Maybe if the school's management had earned better grades in math . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (6FqZa)

80 >>>unfortunate product names

I can't speak to the rest of those products, but I know that Ayds candy was real. My grandma used to buy that stuff. I think they renamed it right around the time they renamed GRID to Aids.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (pvjTE)

81 Blancito!

Sorry, man. I got nothin'. Just glad to see you back in here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (IcT7t)

82 Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:23 PM

Congratulations to your son!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:25 PM (q1+kD)

83 The minorities are having trouble with algebra, you say? Hmmm, I wonder why that could be.
--

Totally agree with the video.

Now... my theory.

People are different. Women are different then men, Europeans are diffierent from Asians, etc.

However, we HAVE to make sure EVERYONE IS THE SAME. Because "same"= "equal."

Personally, I think the "same" = "equal" is something that the snowflakes want, because of their feelings of inferiority.

"I'm 5'2" tall and weigh 200 pounds. Don't I look beautiful in a bikini? If you say no, you're a hater! We're all beautiful!"

Exhibit One: Michelle Obama is beautful
Exhibit Two: Hillary Clinton is beautiful.
Exhibit Three: Lena Dunham is beautiful.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:26 PM (aT+Bx)

84 80 >>>unfortunate product names

I can't speak to the rest of those products, but I know that Ayds candy was real. My grandma used to buy that stuff. I think they renamed it right around the time they renamed GRID to Aids.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (pvjTE)

Mmmm, chocolate flavored speed!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:26 PM (0mRoj)

85 Dredd and The Dark Knight proved that you don't need an origin story. You just need Karl Urban willing to scowl beneath a mask.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:20 PM (6FqZa)

Dredd is the Greatest comic book movie ever, I really like that Dredd and partner never have feelings for each other, they are there for a job and act professionally.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 10:26 PM (dKiJG)

86
Well,
I succumbed to my Civ addiction. I have both IV and V on disk but they wouldn't load onto a new Win10 desktop so... paid a lot of money to download VI from steam, and hate it. You can't automate anything; builders/workers/explorers, the tech tree is all different, and you have to micromanage everything.

And it plays very slowly. We hates it.

So then I download version V which is the same as version IV but with a new dress. Same problems as IV, and I can't stop playing either version. Been obsessed with it for the last 48 hours. Obsessed, compulsive, and can't stop. I think that qualifies as 'crazy'.

Pretty sure, it's crazy. and Stupid. Story of my life.

So what's new with Trump?

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:26 PM (m9X4Y)

87 Maybe if the school's management had earned better grades in math . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (6FqZa)

They flunked algebra.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:27 PM (Enq6K)

88 don't the state schools have programs designed to get minority kids up to speed in their freshman year so they can do college work?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:27 PM (0wem/)

89 You like-a the juice Yoko. C'mon, you like-a the Yoko. Ok. I a get you the Yoko.

Posted by: some Greek guys at July 22, 2017 10:27 PM (jZgTE)

90 "I'm 5'2" tall and weigh 200 pounds. Don't I look beautiful in a bikini? If you say no, you're a hater! We're all beautiful!"

If I say no, it means my eyesight's still good. Could be worse, you could be that 400 pound pig from My Big Fat Fabulous Life.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:27 PM (0mRoj)

91 Congratulations to your son!

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:25 PM (q1+kD)

Thanks Erik! He's pretty excited.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:27 PM (Enq6K)

92 Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:23 PM (Enq6

Good news Tami!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 22, 2017 10:28 PM (hi/I/)

93 Cheers to a drama free ONT.
Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (vj/UE)

Gould, I...I have to let you know that...I'm pregnant.

With YOUR BABY!
Posted by: Robert Duhn duhn duuuuuuhhhhnn at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (mknWS)


Robert . . . it's your wife.

She's . . . she's . . .

. . .

. . .

there's been an accident.

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)

94 which side of the lid does a toilet hobo live on?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:28 PM (0wem/)

95 Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:26 PM

Yeah...

And replacing "achievement" with "equality" is going to be a disaster for all of us, I'm afraid...

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (q1+kD)

96 Floaters...i first noticed these in my early teens. I never thought it was a big deal. Isnt it kinda cool that there's a kind of diffractive magnification process going on near the surface of your eye? It was so trivial i never discussed it with anyone except a cubemate in my first eng job who told me he'd gone to the doc about them. Huh.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (Eynls)

97 I saw Lauren Southern is getting a boat so they can check on what the NGO's are doing. Also they plan on sinking the boats that the migrants used so they can't be used again.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (dKiJG)

98 Just glad to see you back in here.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (IcT7t)

I come here with a heavy heart...

*Pounds chest*

Fucking jalapenos, man...

Posted by: Robert just can't get enough though at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (mknWS)

99 93 Cheers to a drama free ONT.
Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (vj/UE)

Gould, I...I have to let you know that...I'm pregnant.

With YOUR BABY!
Posted by: Robert Duhn duhn duuuuuuhhhhnn at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (mknWS)

Robert . . . it's your wife.

She's . . . she's . . .

. . .

. . .

there's been an accident.
Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)

My God, the nurse...it's her long lost twin!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (0mRoj)

100 This is for all those idiots who thnk wintter is soooo great because you don't like jot weathr. Well your an idiot. Hot weather won't make your fall and break a hip and you don have to scrap hot weather of your windshield. And you do t have to die in a blizzard on the rod if your in hot weather. Your an idiot.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (1fvpz)

101 31 Jenner is running for a senate seat. But he still hasn't trained his voice. He's a stupid, lazy transsexual. At least Weird Al in Florida trained his voice.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2017 10:07 PM (/qEW2)

++++

Of all the things I think about when considering Jenner as a potential senator, the last thing I will worry about is whether or not he has done the work to be convincing as a tranny.

Seriously, why would anyone other than his fellow trannies give a shit about how well his transition is going?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (pvjTE)

102 Popular Mechanics is NOT a porn site of buff, sweaty men working in a garage. Such a disappointment. We're literally shaking!

Posted by: Barry & Reggie at July 22, 2017 10:30 PM (bc2Lc)

103 22
I agree that colleges should get rid of algebra.



(Keep it in 9th grade where it belongs.)

*****

They need to get rid of "students" who can't do algebra. We have hundreds of thousands of young people majoring in "more high school" and they want the rest of us to pay for it cuz "feel the Bern"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 22, 2017 10:30 PM (h1jJh)

104 Tami, congrats to you and your son!

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 10:30 PM (ZapPq)

105 have read the sr71 story several times. much better in audio.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:30 PM (0wem/)

106 100 This is for all those idiots who thnk wintter is soooo great because you don't like jot weathr. Well your an idiot. Hot weather won't make your fall and break a hip and you don have to scrap hot weather of your windshield. And you do t have to die in a blizzard on the rod if your in hot weather. Your an idiot.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM (1fv

Rough weekend grammie?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 22, 2017 10:31 PM (hi/I/)

107 >>>I called that movie Uranus Descending, because of
all the crap it unloaded upon us, the audience. Fortunately I snagged a
copy from the library. Which had it because, I'm guessing, the previous
owner couldn't find a sucker to pay any money for the used DVD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:13 PM (6FqZa)<<<

Anything with Mila Kunis can't be all bad. But... it's damn close.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at July 22, 2017 10:31 PM (jZgTE)

108 Smith: I get my jones for tweaking city stats from Alien Legacy. I recently blew the sh!t out of the sporeship, but the game is still going on, I guess until the Empiants give us some translateable material.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:31 PM (6FqZa)

109 They need to get rid of "students" who can't do algebra. We have hundreds of thousands of young people majoring in "more high school" and they want the rest of us to pay for it cuz "feel the Bern"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July




well, you also need to get rid of teachers that are not able to teach algebra.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:31 PM (0wem/)

110 So what's new with Trump?
Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith

He's doing so awesome that even cancer is on his side to drain the swamp.

I denounce myself. Worth it.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 10:32 PM (5YBu8)

111 And replacing "achievement" with "equality" is going to be a disaster for all of us, I'm afraid...
Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:29 PM


Free men aren't equal, and equal men aren't free.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 10:32 PM (DMUuz)

112 howdy all.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 10:32 PM (smD62)

113 100 Grammie, you alright? Or is someone socking you?

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 10:32 PM (ZapPq)

114 Duke of Righteous WTF? @ 77 --

Yep.

http://tinyurl.com/lqy2a3t

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 10:33 PM (zkGZ8)

115 Mis Hum I am waiting for rom service while dancing to mexicn beer karaoke. They are going to brewing me nachos and cookies. I like hot weather.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2017 10:33 PM (1fvpz)

116 well, you also need to get rid of teachers that are not able to teach algebra.

I'm pretty much reaching the stage with most college teachers that AmishDude reached with lawyers, although not quite where D-Lamp got with journalists.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:33 PM (6FqZa)

117 And replacing "achievement" with "equality" is going to be a disaster for all of us, I'm afraid...
--

I don't have kids. I can't imagine the kind of cr@p parents have to put up with these days.

Also... my parents were pretty old school. So I'd probably be an old school parent. Meaning that CPS would probably end up taking my ___inary kids away from me because I said something like "No, you're not special. You're just like every other kid your age that thinks the world revolves around them and money grows on trees. Shut up and do your homework."

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:33 PM (aT+Bx)

118 I'm pretty much reaching the stage with most college teachers that AmishDude reached with lawyers, although not quite where D-Lamp got with journalists.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July




not sure where that is.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (0wem/)

119 88 don't the state schools have programs designed to get minority kids up to speed in their freshman year so they can do college work?
Posted by: yankeefifth
----
Many of them, yes.

And so do the service academies. I don't quite know what to make of that.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (tr2D7)

120 Free men aren't equal, and equal men aren't free.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 10:32 PM

Yep. And apparently nobody from our side (politically, anyway) seems capable of making the argument that "equality" is about "opportunity" not "outcome"...

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (q1+kD)

121 Emile I am good two more nights in Cancun wear it is hot and their is no snow nor


Posted by: grammie winger at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (1fvpz)

122 118 I'm pretty much reaching the stage with most college teachers that AmishDude reached with lawyers, although not quite where D-Lamp got with journalists.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July




not sure where that is.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (0wem/)

Killing them all.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

123 well, in NYC the concerned parents wanted the schools to have classes to teach them to help their kids with their homework. that's something I guess.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (0wem/)

124 I'm pretty much reaching the stage with most college teachers that AmishDude reached with lawyers, although not quite where D-Lamp got with journalists.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July




not sure where that is.
Posted by: yankeefifth

Right between "let it burn" and "make it burn".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (5YBu8)

125 I don't have kids either. I heard there was something people had to do first before one can get kids. Maybe I can find out on the internet

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (6FqZa)

126 there's been an accident.
Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 10:28 PM (s5o+q)

We sent her with Kitty to yacht in the Hamptons...dear Lord...my boat!!!!!

Posted by: Robert duhn duhn duuuuuhhhhhhnnnnnn at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (mknWS)

127 illing them all.
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July




got it.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (0wem/)

128 equal men aren't free

I take it you are unfamiliar with thepeoplescube.com?

A most equal bunch.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (Eynls)

129 Gould: Cheers to a drama free ONT.
Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (vj/UE)

Robert Duhn duhn duuuuuuhhhhnn: Gould, I...I have to let you know that...I'm pregnant.

With YOUR BABY!

filbert (enters room): Robert . . . it's your wife.
She's . . . she's . . .
. . .
. . .
there's been an accident.

Insomniac, Professional Nobody (rushes in): My God, the nurse...it's her long lost twin!

filbert: Not . . . not the twins?

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (s5o+q)

130 Right between "let it burn" and "make it burn".
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July




heh

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:35 PM (0wem/)

131 Thanks MisHum and Emmie!

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:36 PM (Enq6K)

132
Yep. And apparently nobody from our side (politically, anyway) seems capable of making the argument that "equality" is about "opportunity" not "outcome"...
----

WHY AREN'T I MAKING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AS A HOSTESS IN RESTAURANT??? WE'RE ALL EQUAL, AND I'M JUST AS GOOD AS MODEL!!!!

Posted by: sjw snowflakes in the workplace at July 22, 2017 10:36 PM (aT+Bx)

133 I grew up in Illinois and Wisconsin. Moved to Texas as an adult and never looked back. They can keep their lovely winter. Never want to see that kind of winter again.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 10:36 PM (H5knJ)

134 122
Killing them all.
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (0mRoj)


Present company excepted, I hope.

Posted by: Emmie, math instructor at July 22, 2017 10:37 PM (ZapPq)

135 WHY AREN'T I MAKING A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AS A HOSTESS IN RESTAURANT??? WE'RE ALL EQUAL, AND I'M JUST AS GOOD AS MODEL!!!!
--

WHY AM I NOT KING, I MEAN QUEEN, I MEAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? YOU PEONS OWE ME! YOU OWE ME!!!!!!

Posted by: HILLARY! at July 22, 2017 10:37 PM (aT+Bx)

136 Most in-demand six figure jobs?
- Industrial welder.
- Heavy-lift operator (over 100 Tonnes)
- Site construction manager, major capital projects
and more.

We need skilled crafts people, people. Get some training, and join us in some international shit-hole.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 22, 2017 10:38 PM (o7l6R)

137 Gould: Cheers to a drama free ONT.

Robert Duhn duhn duuuuuuhhhhnn: Gould, I...I have to let you know that...I'm pregnant.

With YOUR BABY!

filbert (enters room): Robert . . . it's your wife.
She's . . . she's . . .
. . .
. . .
there's been an accident.

Insomniac, Professional Nobody (rushes in): My God, the nurse...it's her long lost twin!

filbert: Not . . . not the twins?

Robert Duhn duhn duuuuuuhhhhnn (turns to filbert): We sent her with Kitty to yacht in the Hamptons...dear Lord...my boat!!!!!

filbert (sternly) You sent her to the . . . (dramatic incidental music) . . . How could you!

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 10:38 PM (s5o+q)

138 I like Denver area winters on balance. There are two Arctic weeks in January that have to be survived. Besides that there are occasional days of snow and ice. The Christmas season sucks because drivers try to run down pedestrians.

But on the plus side I can actually use my head. My brain does not function well above 80 degrees F.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:38 PM (6FqZa)

139 Uh... grammie???

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 10:38 PM (CNHr1)

140 134 122
Killing them all.
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (0mRoj)

Present company excepted, I hope.
Posted by: Emmie, math instructor at July 22, 2017 10:37 PM (ZapPq)

Hopefully. AmishDude talked about lawyers like Hitler talked about Jews.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM (0mRoj)

141 Emmie, math instructors clearly excepted.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM (6FqZa)

142 Fucking jalapenos, man...


That's not what we do with 'em around here. But as long as you're enjoying it; carry on, sir!

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM (IcT7t)

143 ONT Drama is Hard.

I'm tapping out . . .

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM (s5o+q)

144 Alien Legacy. There's a video on youtube, and I'm like OMG it's a DOS game. The sound track, OMG OMG

Then I remembered The Hunt for Red October DOS game. I think it was DOS, might have been Windows.
You drive the boat low and slow.

There just isn't much shoot'm up in a sub hunt.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM (m9X4Y)

145 Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:33 PM

No kids either, so I can't say how bad it is to be a parent these days. But I imagine I'd be looking into homeschooling if at all possible. I'm not even sure that private schools are that much different these days.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:40 PM (q1+kD)

146 Emmie, math instructors clearly excepted.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July




yeah they teach algebra. oops?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:41 PM (0wem/)

147 I heard there was something people had to do first before one can get kids. Maybe I can find out on the internet
--

Yes, you need to have about $30,000 and fill out a lot of forms before you get a pretty little Chinese girl.

It's a lot less if you want an American minority baby; I think there's a form you can pick up at the secrety of state office for that. If you take two, you get a discount on your license plates.

And that's how you get a baby.

/I denounce myself.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:41 PM (aT+Bx)

148 Smith, yes, 'tis a DOS game that runs nicely on DOSBox. I like DOS games, because they almost always run great on DOSBox. The early 2000s games for Windows 32bit are the ones that freeze up and cause memory leaks on modern machines.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:41 PM (6FqZa)

149 And here I am bringing game comments to the ONT instead of the game thread. I was too busy sucking on chocolate milk shake at that time

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:42 PM (6FqZa)

150 Yes, you need to have about $30,000 and fill out a lot of forms before you get a pretty little Chinese girl.


Posted by: shibumi at July




easier to just go the fiance route.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:43 PM (0wem/)

151 @137

So twins and the pussy are in the same boat? Good heavens, man, do you know what will happen if they are seen within 2 feet of each other?!

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 10:43 PM (Eynls)

152 Algebra is a good test of memorization and recall of complex ideas, and use of logic and reasoning. In other words, it separates the below average intelligence and diligence folks from the average and above ones. But OK, let's just give a community college diploma to anyone whose maximum math ability is counting to ten using their fingers as an aid.

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 10:43 PM (AMIL/)

153 Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 10:32

Trump is giving people cancer?
OMG OMG

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:43 PM (m9X4Y)

154 Years ago I overheard a middle-school teacher explain to a parent that "We teach them algebra so that they will learn critical thinking skills. The math is beside the point."

Posted by: Another Bob at July 22, 2017 10:44 PM (lydb7)

155 The guy in the interview doesn't say much about which math classes he wants to replace algebra with.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 10:21 PM (+lVUW)



Differential equations? Group theory? Number theory? Topology?

The mind boggles.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 10:45 PM (SRKgf)

156 well, the thing about algebra is where does it go from there? So you give them their diploma without having received their education, what happens when they get a job and are unable to do the work?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 10:45 PM (0wem/)

157 Yes, you need to have about $30,000 and fill out a lot of forms before you get a pretty little Chinese girl.

It's a lot less if you want an American minority baby; I think there's a form you can pick up at the secrety of state office for that. If you take two, you get a discount on your license plates.

And that's how you get a baby.

/I denounce myself.
Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:41 PM (aT+Bx)

======

Tis true, to some extent. We adopted my daughter in '96, not a minority baby though. $35k in 1996 dollars.

Posted by: GOULD at July 22, 2017 10:45 PM (vj/UE)

158 Algebra

Google "pons assinorum"...

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 10:45 PM (Eynls)

159 There just isn't much shoot'm up in a sub hunt.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM

Sub hunting seems more like sniper/assassin-style than run-and-gun. Makes sense considering actual sub warfare, I guess.

Also, I enjoyed Civ V quite a bit. It seems much less complex than the earlier Civs to me. In a good way. Plus I like the combat much better.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:46 PM (q1+kD)

160 But OK, let's just give a community college diploma to anyone whose maximum math ability is counting to ten using their fingers as an aid.
--

Yes, exactly!! But not just a community college diploma, but a PhD.

Everyone is a genius!!!!

/what do you mean when everyone is a genius, no one is a genius? I don't understand.

Posted by: sjw snowflakes in University at July 22, 2017 10:46 PM (aT+Bx)

161 154 Years ago I overheard a middle-school teacher explain to a parent that "We teach them algebra so that they will learn critical thinking skills. The math is beside the point."
Posted by: Another Bob at July 22, 2017 10:44 PM (lydb7)


I take your point, but there's something to that, viz., that one learns more from studying math than the simple manipulations involved. It's the utility - and in some contexts, the necessity - of thinking about an issue quantitatively.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 10:47 PM (SRKgf)

162 Can you get Ayds from a Bag of Dicks???

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at July 22, 2017 10:47 PM (nlbfN)

163 Got home from today's show, got Dan and Carmen taken care of, went into town to Lupe Tortilla, came home and crashed for a few hours. Just got back from getting the guys put up.

Horrible judging today. Poor Carmen, in her last show, didn't make the cut but some cat-footed flat-backed straight-fronted thing did. Sometimes you get the elevator and sometimes you get the shaft.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2017 10:47 PM (PBalj)

164 But OK, let's just give a community college diploma to anyone whose maximum math ability is counting to ten using their fingers as an aid.

So guys get a 10% advantage?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 10:47 PM (SRKgf)

165 well, the thing about algebra is where does it go from there? So you give them their diploma without having received their education, what happens when they get a job and are unable to do the work?
--

Duh.

Universal Basic Income with a government phone, government cable, government internet and government x-box.

'comfortable poverty.'

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:48 PM (aT+Bx)

166
HS Algebra, the calculations I did while employed involved time/speed/distance, addition, subtraction, and counting.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:48 PM (m9X4Y)

167 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2017 10:47 PM (PBalj)


Subjective politics. The fucking worst.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 22, 2017 10:48 PM (hi/I/)

168 123 well, in NYC the concerned parents wanted the schools to have classes to teach them to help their kids with their homework. that's something I guess.
Posted by: yankeefifth


If the parents know they need help there's hope.
A number of years ago there was a tv movie about Dr. Ben Carson. If you get a chance to see it, do. The parts about his mother were tough. She was married at 13, had to boys, and was deserted.

She would push her kids to do well in school and do their homework. She couldn't really help them because she was illiterate. Ben became a pediatric neurologist, his brother became an engineer.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

169 What is al gebra?

Posted by: Gary Johnson at July 22, 2017 10:51 PM (jZgTE)

170 Here's an SR-71 story that'll make you laugh.

I've read it before, but I've never heard it. That's an all-time classic. It never gets old.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 10:51 PM (sdi6R)

171 So guys get a 10% advantage?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

33% if you count the boys.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 10:51 PM (5YBu8)

172 Eric the redacted.

My problem with Civ is I try to play it like one is building a civilization, and that is not the way to play it. It is a war game, more like chess but with a lot of spreadsheet data where a 5% difference is the difference between winning a loosing. A predatory capitalist profiteer could do well with it if he could get past the war game look and feel.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:52 PM (m9X4Y)

173
She would push her kids to do well in school
and do their homework. She couldn't really help them because she was
illiterate. Ben became a pediatric neurologist, his brother became an
engineer.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

The best part is the book reports she required them to do. They'd turn them into her and she'd pretend to read them....even marking them with a red pencil.

Posted by: Tami, Public Ineffectual at July 22, 2017 10:53 PM (Enq6K)

174 Algebra is a good test of memorization and recall of complex ideas, and use of logic and reasoning. I
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 10:43 PM (AMIL/)


It shouldn't be a matter of memorization, but rather of abstract reasoning. People mature at different rates, and I find now that mathematical concepts that I found arcane back in the day are obvious now (too late!).

Still, the beauty of mathematics is as an exercise in abstract reasoning, for which it provides a worthy challenge.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 10:53 PM (SRKgf)

175 Evening all.

No life, just at work.

Is grammie drinking?

Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 10:54 PM (D2vc1)

176 imaginary

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at July 22, 2017 10:54 PM (nlbfN)

177 space imaginary this time?

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at July 22, 2017 10:55 PM (nlbfN)

178 With all the wild, unsourced and in a few days disproved leaks I've wondered if someone was just making them up. Either the reporter for ratings, an Obama holdover to damage Trump, or perhaps the Trump administration is putting some of these 'in the water' with limited circulation or "watermarked somehow in order to track them back to the leakers.

If the last I hope a perp-walk rodeo is happening in the near future.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 22, 2017 10:55 PM (d3wbb)

179 Yes, grammie is drinking.

This should be fun.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 10:55 PM (D2vc1)

180 Typo version imagenary

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNisISIS at July 22, 2017 10:55 PM (nlbfN)

181 My problem with Civ is I try to play it like one is building a civilization, and that is not the way to play it. It is a war game, more like chess but with a lot of spreadsheet data where a 5% difference is the difference between winning a loosing. A predatory capitalist profiteer could do well with it if he could get past the war game look and feel.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 10:52 PM

I haven't played much on the highest two difficulties, but on the rest, you can usually spend most of your time building up as long as you have a few units to protect against a sneak attack war.

It really depends on your neighbors, though. Some of them will bum-rush you very early on, and the computer really cheats with troop numbers. XD

Turtle around your city and just survive until you wear them down. Eventually they will withdraw and/or offer peace. Archer-types are strong in the early game as long as you can protect them within a city or behind melee troops.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 10:57 PM (q1+kD)

182 Understanding algebra has squat to do with Critical Thinking.
It has everything to do with understanding how a lot of things work.

We live in a more technological world than ever before, and behind every techological geegaw that people use is mathematics.
You don't have to be a scientist to appreciate how much of our modern world requires math to function.
Plumber, carpenter, skilled tradesman, all use math at some level or another to do their jobs.

Algebra is needed to learn Calculus. You'll really learn algebra to solve Caculus problems.

But let's raise a whole generation of intellectual midgets, and then wonder why the Chinese will be running our country in another generation.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 10:57 PM (S6Pax)

183 I dont need aljebra any more then I need speling or gramer.

Posted by: Young Adolt at July 22, 2017 10:58 PM (XoldI)

184 HP Lovecraft predicted a Chinese-run world in "Shadow Out Of Time".

David Wingrove also wrote a future history (a very long one) on a similar theme. Chung Kuo.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:59 PM (6FqZa)

185 Yes, you need to have about $30,000 and fill out a lot of forms before you get a pretty little Chinese girl.

It's a lot less if you want an American minority baby; I think there's a form you can pick up at the secrety of state office for that. If you take two, you get a discount on your license plates.

And that's how you get a baby.

/I denounce myself.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:41 PM (aT+Bx)


Have we got a deal for you!

Posted by: Human Traffickers on the Dark Web at July 22, 2017 10:59 PM (vBeA5)

186 No need for cursive writing either.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (gDoff)

187 Yes, you need to have about $30,000 and fill out a lot of forms before you get a pretty little Chinese girl.



It's a lot less if you want an American minority baby; I think
there's a form you can pick up at the secrety of state office for that.
If you take two, you get a discount on your license plates.



And that's how you get a baby.



/I denounce myself.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 10:41 PM (aT+Bx)


Obligatory Raising Arizona clip:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srFCu19mo-k

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (Id9+8)

188 I dont need aljebra any more then I need speling or gramer.
Posted by: Young Adolt

Literally Adolt Hutler

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (5YBu8)

189 "Are traps gay?"

Apparently this question was so triggering at Coxcon, a British gaming event, that the person who asked it during a Q and A session was discovered and ejected from the event.

What made this even more surprising is that the gaming reviewer YouTuber "Total Biscuit" got in on the thought-criminal shaming.

http://tinyurl.com/ychbvuga

Posted by: Thrawn at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (E/ibL)

190 So guys get a 10% advantage?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 10:47 PM


- 0.7% for every 6 degree Fahrenheit drop in water temperature.

Posted by: George Constanta at July 22, 2017 11:01 PM (DMUuz)

191 133 I grew up in Illinois and Wisconsin. Moved to Texas as an adult and never looked back. They can keep their lovely winter. Never want to see that kind of winter again.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 10:36 PM (H5knJ)


This is my 57th summer in Texas. The older I get the more I dislike the heat.

There has to be a happy medium somewhere that doesn't have blizzards but doesn't get so stinkin' hot for 5 months out of every year.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 22, 2017 11:01 PM (nvMvs)

192 @184

All wok and no pray make good party member!

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (Eynls)

193 189 "Are traps gay?"

If it's a Tranny Honey trap.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (0mRoj)

194 I've heard this "Dark Web" phrase a few times this week. Is that just a term for weird, obscure, legal-relative sites, or something else?

*Technologically Illiterate here*

Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (D2vc1)

195 No need for cursive writing either.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (gDoff)


Loving parents make their children learn copperplate.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (RZXSp)

196 I grew up in Illinois and Wisconsin. Moved to Texas as an adult and never looked back. They can keep their lovely winter. Never want to see that kind of winter again.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 10:36 PM (H5knJ)

This is my 57th summer in Texas. The older I get the more I dislike the heat.

There has to be a happy medium somewhere that doesn't have blizzards but doesn't get so stinkin' hot for 5 months out of every year.
Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July




bad weather is minimal but useful adversity. keeps you on your toes.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (0wem/)

197 So, 10 years ago, bear in mind 10 years ago so this isn't even recent...at work, I handed a high school student a postcard to fill out his address on. He had no clue. None. He gave it back to me, and had like the zipcode on the second line, his home address on the bottom line, but like a question mark as the house number.

Sadly, this was not a singular incident. Kids literally didn't know how to write their address. It was sad.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM (smD62)

198 well the really crappy schools teach cursive writing but not cursive reading.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM (0wem/)

199 "Are traps gay?"

Apparently this question was so triggering at Coxcon, a British gaming event, that the person who asked it during a Q and A session was discovered and ejected from the event.

What made this even more surprising is that the gaming reviewer YouTuber "Total Biscuit" got in on the thought-criminal shaming.

http://tinyurl.com/ychbvuga
Posted by: Thrawn

Before a "Dangerous Faggot" event, posters of Bruce Jenner with the caption "Trannies are gay" were posted around campus, which caused mass triggering. Milo's response was "If you're triggered by some words on a poster, how are you going to cope with having your dick chopped off?"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM (5YBu8)

200 We live in a more technological world than ever before, and behind every techological geegaw that people use is mathematics.

You don't have to be a scientist to appreciate how much of our modern world requires math to function.
Plumber, carpenter, skilled tradesman, all use math at some level or another to do their jobs.
[


It's how I'd teach algebra to ... ahem ... those unlikely to end up on an academic track.

"A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"

When you're standing there with a saw and a piece of lumber, that's not an entirely academic question.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM (SRKgf)

201 Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM

Wow... Not really surprised, I guess, but geez...

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:05 PM (q1+kD)

202 194 I've heard this "Dark Web" phrase a few times this week. Is that just a term for weird, obscure, legal-relative sites, or something else?

*Technologically Illiterate here*
Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (D2vc1)

It's the Dark Net, and it's where all these horrible trolls and people of ill-repute congregate to harass gamerz wymen.

Posted by: Ice T (Law and Order "Gamergate" Episode) at July 22, 2017 11:05 PM (E/ibL)

203 195 No need for cursive writing either.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (gDoff)

Loving parents make their children learn copperplate.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (RZXSp)


Ghetto cryptography.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:05 PM (SRKgf)

204 It's how I'd teach algebra to ... ahem ... those unlikely to end up on an academic track.

"A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"

When you're standing there with a saw and a piece of lumber, that's not an entirely academic question.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July




well, explaining to people why they need to know something or why knowing something will be helpful to them gets them to focus.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:05 PM (0wem/)

205 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"

What's a joist?

Posted by: Young Adolt at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (XoldI)

206 I had my second laser surgery last Thursday for cataracts. It was easy and painless. As an added bonus, I am no lo get extremely nearsighted. I now only need reading glasses which I can buy in the dollar store. I've worn glasses since the third grade and I still find myself reaching up to adjust them even though they are no longer there.

Posted by: Bill R. at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (IuYIh)

207 Somebody needs to mention that Muslims "started" algebra, so the minorities are persona non grata and should be beaten with bike locks for daring to insult the New Democrats.

Muslims also started the slave trade. So, they should double shuddup.

Posted by: Antifartwah at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (sPwat)

208 Yeah, I hung out with F-14 jocks down at Meridian. Crazy mofos, they were.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (OdK9v)

209 @194 country boy dark web

Think of a bunch of phone numbers without a phone book, with optional tinkering with the signal your phone sends to dial another.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (Eynls)

210 Tranny Honey is a fairly innocuous name. It could be so much worse. Sweet Tranny Lube, Tranny shift helper...

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (wTi/q)

211 >>>No need for cursive writing either.


Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM (gDoff)<<<

Yup. That's real retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Jeantel at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (jZgTE)

212 "I've heard this "Dark Web" phrase a few times this week. Is that just a term for weird, obscure, legal-relative sites, or something else? "

Not a place where a decent Moron would wish to venture.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (jm1YL)

213
The problem I had with Calculus was I had never seen anything like it before and was thrown into the shark tank with students who had already taken the same course in high school. At one point, I saw the mechanical transformation of the symbols that was taking the derivative and I thought 'ok, that is easy enough', and the very next thought was, it can't be that easy so that has to be wrong. At that point I was completely blocked and never able to learn anything.

The second problem was it was all symbolic. A+B+C divided by the square root of Pi. Ok fine, but it was all just gibberish, meaningless symbols unrelated to the real world.

Give me a product with a fifty percent markup where the customer says, that price is too high, and I say, ok fine we'll take ten percent off if you buy in quantity. That I can understand.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (m9X4Y)

214 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"

===

Hold on! I was told there would be no trigonometry here!

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (AMIL/)

215 the f-14 is such a cool looking plane. in school the f-14 would shove the f-18s head in the toilet.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (0wem/)

216 I'm always late to the party.

Algebra - My 9th grade algebra teacher, Mr. Rivedal, told us that the day would come when we would pay for everything with a little plastic card, and a penny would hold so little value that you wouldn't pick one up off the ground if you found it, and we didn't believe him.

Posted by: ALH at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (QY6Z3)

217 well, explaining to people why they need to know something or why knowing something will be helpful to them gets them to focus.
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:05 PM (0wem/)


Exactly. Jean Piaget pointed out the importance of relating the unfamiliar to the familiar.

It's a pretty basic principle of pedagogy, but one that it is sadly neglected.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (SRKgf)

218 I've had a few that have annoyed me at times over the years, but I don't think I'm quite ready to have them lazed yet.
-----

I have a couple that have been around so long that I've given them names.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (OdK9v)

219 @194 country boy dark web

Think of a bunch of phone numbers without a phone book, with optional tinkering with the signal your phone sends to dial another.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (Eynls)

So, how does one get there?

Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (D2vc1)

220 What made this even more surprising is that the gaming reviewer YouTuber "Total Biscuit" got in on the thought-criminal shaming.

http://tinyurl.com/ychbvuga

Posted by: Thrawn at July 22, 2017 11:00 PM

Seems like I remember Total Biscuit going on a big anti-gun rant a few years ago. I could be remembering incorrectly, though. I do remember stopping watching anything of his for it (or something like that), however.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (q1+kD)

221 @207

Muzzies did _not_ start algebra. That's an idea so stupid only Barky could believe it.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (Eynls)

222 What's a joist?
Posted by: Young Adolt at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (XoldI)


Yeah, you're right. For personal reasons, I have joists on the mind, plus the product of Scotland.

I meant rafters.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (SRKgf)

223 I've heard this "Dark Web" phrase a few times this week. Is that just a term for weird, obscure, legal-relative sites, or something else?

*Technologically Illiterate here*

Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (D2vc1)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet

When people talk about Tor (Onion), I2P, Freenet, &c., they are talking about when many call the "dark net" or "dark web".

They are anonymized and encrypted networks such that it is (supposedly) impossible for anyone find out who you are or where you visit, even the sites you visit.

Posted by: The Dark Hat at July 22, 2017 11:09 PM (vBeA5)

224 Tonight's ONT brought to you by unfortunate product names:
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There was an old auto service shop in Atlanta named S&M Clutch & Brake.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:10 PM (OdK9v)

225 >> When you're standing there with a saw and a
>> piece of lumber

When I first started learnin' high powered 'rithmetic, my father enjoyed having fun with me. We were building something, and he told me to figure out how long the rafters needed to be on a x/y slope (I forget what it was, 4.5" per foot, I think was what he would use, which is a little better than 20 degree slope).

I used the simple trig, and then he said, yep, son, that's right. He would do it using a square. He knew no trig, and his method, as he had been taught, was to directly measure it.

That was his method of keeping me humble.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 11:10 PM (8O3HH)

226 @219 cb

Hey, i only know how it could be done. No interest in going there. Last night's ONT spilling over to EMT was dark web enough for me.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:10 PM (Eynls)

227 Educate yourself. Pretty sure you're a moron, not sure you're deplorable.

Posted by: Antifartwah at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (sPwat)

228 I have always desperately struggled with algebra and calc. Geometry was always a snap.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (gDoff)

229 Dark web, I think, is sites that can't be indexed by bots like Google uses because the pages are only available if you have a password to access it. Something like 90% of the web is locked except for those who have the passwords. Much is government or corporate data.

If we ever get the VR type access like in "Neuromancer" then those will be the places that bite back, hard.

However I mat be wrong and thinking of some other web space.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (d3wbb)

230 You don't really need algebra to figure the length need for roof rafters. All you need is a framing square.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (m9X4Y)

231 184 -- boulder terlit : John Hersey (Hiroshima) also wrote a book about the Chinese taking over the world, White Lotus, published in 1965.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (lMsBz)

232 224 Do you think they named it that on purpose?

Posted by: ALH at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (QY6Z3)

233 there is a shop nearby that has a sign out that says "we do foreign and domestic trannys"

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (0wem/)

234 Nice buncha stuff in the post tonight. Thanks for your work, CDR M. Here: *grabs beer from under dog on ice in kiddie pool * This Corona's for you.

Posted by: mindful webworker - simply at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (hGZJP)

235 There was an old auto service shop in Atlanta named S&M Clutch & Brake.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

So they were honest about the mechanic/customer relationship.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (5YBu8)

236 . Drop algebra requirement because minorities keep failing it.
----------

The same reason they dropped History and Economics for Journalism at UNC.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (OdK9v)

237 Here in Indiana, there is an insurance firm called Crapo Insurance company.

They pronounce it Craypo, supposedly. But, it's impossible to read it as anything but Crappo Insurance company.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (smD62)

238 I'm a rafter. I rafted down the Apple River once.

Posted by: Young Adolt at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (XoldI)

239 And I see I am wrong, oh well.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 22, 2017 11:12 PM (d3wbb)

240 I'm a rafter. I rafted down the Apple River once.
Posted by: Young Adolt at July




wouldn't that make you a tuber?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:12 PM (0wem/)

241 I used the simple trig, and then he said, yep, son, that's right. He would do it using a square. He knew no trig, and his method, as he had been taught, was to directly measure it.

That was his method of keeping me humble.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 11:10 PM (8O3HH)



Ah, the Edisonian method. (He once asked a newly hired mathematician to calculate the volume of a light bulb, which the guy - after some work - did. Edison poured water into the bulb, then poured the water into a graduated cylinder.)

But the point is, either works. Not being able to do it by any method ... doesn't.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:13 PM (SRKgf)

242 DAmn, it is embarrassing to post a comment and then read the comments and see that someone already posted the answer that you posted ten minutes later.


I should be used to it by now.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (m9X4Y)

243 Do you think they named it that on purpose?
Posted by: ALH
-----------

Not at all. It was from a time before vulgarity had invaded every corner of society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (OdK9v)

244 "I've heard this "Dark Web" phrase a few times this week. Is that just a term for weird, obscure, legal-relative sites, or something else? "

Not a place where a decent Moron would wish to venture.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (jm1YL)


It's most infamous for having sites like the "silk road" which is like Amazon, but for illegal guns, illegal drugs, hitmen, kiddy porn, actual children and women for sale, snuff films, and things far, far worse than any of us here could dream up.

Posted by: The Dark Hat at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (vBeA5)

245 Drop algebra requirement because minorities keep failing it.
----------

The same reason they dropped History and Economics for Journalism at UNC.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July




well, they have waived the marriage and father requirements

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (0wem/)

246 I was lost in high school algebra. But picked it up fairly well when it was necessary for my job. Some of my high school problem was X=? and me being stubborn and not getting the concept theoretically. Once it was applied to real physical things in my job it made sense and worth learning.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (wTi/q)

247 It's most infamous for having sites like the "silk road" which is like Amazon, but for illegal guns, illegal drugs, hitmen, kiddy porn, actual children and women for sale, snuff films, and things far, far worse than any of us here could dream up.
Posted by: The Dark Hat at July




kiddie

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (0wem/)

248 Seems like I remember Total Biscuit going on a big anti-gun rant a few years ago. I could be remembering incorrectly, though. I do remember stopping watching anything of his for it (or something like that), however.
Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (q1+kD)

The surprising part was Total Biscuit utilizing SJW language and tactics to essentially dog-pile a dude who just asked a silly question. He got popular with GamerGate, but he's seemingly regressed to the mean (probably with being British and all).

Posted by: Thrawn at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (E/ibL)

249 I should be at 50%! *hic!*

Posted by: 100 Proof Hillary at July 22, 2017 11:15 PM (bc2Lc)

250 The same reason they dropped History and Economics for Journalism at UNC.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:11 PM (OdK9v)



Inmates of the primate enclosures at innumerable zoos live in hope that their day will come.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:15 PM (SRKgf)

251 It's 89 and 52% humidity. The problem with summer in the PNW is that most homes and some stores don't have air conditioning. The house stays cool but it's like an oven outside. I just can't take the humidity any more.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2017 11:15 PM (Lqy/e)

252 I still find myself reaching up to adjust them even though they are no longer there.
Like me reaching for my balls!

Posted by: the ex-bruce jenner at July 22, 2017 11:15 PM (nlbfN)

253 @227

?

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:16 PM (Eynls)

254 I was lost in high school algebra. But picked it up fairly well when it was necessary for my job. Some of my high school problem was X=? and me being stubborn and not getting the concept theoretically. Once it was applied to real physical things in my job it made sense and worth learning.
Posted by: X-ray at July




1. x does not equal ?
2. what does x-ray equal?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:16 PM (0wem/)

255 My job is to search patents for our R&D and Legal groups. I am always amazed at how much goes into improving even the simplest things: new materials, new designs, new processes.

Yet we have a huge number of people who have no idea what things do or what they're used for, how they do them or how they're made. And we're not talking about inner-city gangbangers but politicians, bureaucrats, "thought leaders" and policy makers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2017 11:16 PM (RO6/m)

256 89 and 52% humidity. The problem with summer in the PNW is that most homes and some stores don't have air conditioning. The house stays cool but it's like an oven outside. I just can't take the humidity any more.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July




where are you the desert? 52% humidity is nothing.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:17 PM (0wem/)

257 This morning I watched The Young Turks election night meltdown for the first time.

What a pompous bunch of losers.

Posted by: ALH at July 22, 2017 11:17 PM (QY6Z3)

258 Posted by: Thrawn at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM

Ah, I see. I didn't really follow the names in GamerGate very closely, so I just assumed he was on the SJW side during it...

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (q1+kD)

259
The dark web is the underground web. The sites there, the servers don't appear on the public DNS system. And the traffic is encrypted.

Much of underneath is the same html and others the regular web uses, but to get there, you have to have access to the correct encrypted name servers that will get you there.

It's used for all sorts of highly illegal stuff.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (8O3HH)

260 216 I'm always late to the party.

Algebra - My 9th grade algebra teacher, Mr. Rivedal, told us that the day would come when we would pay for everything with a little plastic card, and a penny would hold so little value that you wouldn't pick one up off the ground if you found it, and we didn't believe him.

Posted by: ALH at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (QY6Z3)

++++

I don't think the little plastic cards are going to be around for too much longer. The day isn't that far off when we will be paying for everything with finger or eye scans.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (FUu/Z)

261 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM


sec(45) * 15 = 21.21 ft.

or

sqrt(15**2 + 15**2) = 21.21 ft.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (DMUuz)

262 Nothing says 'yummy' like Jungle Skum.

*recalls SNL skit for Painful Rectal Itch jam'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (OdK9v)

263 Here's an SR-71 story that'll make you laugh.

Good vid. The guy has really polished his story over the years.

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:19 PM (zEjuG)

264 Clearly, that cat has called for ramming speed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:19 PM (OdK9v)

265 New Thor Ragnarok trailer.

https://youtu.be/ue80QwXMRHg

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 11:19 PM (cAnNx)

266 As I understand it the 'dark web' is like an unlisted telephone number. If you known the number, you can call it, but someone has to tell you the number first. Unless you like dialing random numbers and talking to whoever answers.

In internet language it means the dark servers don't have an entry in the Domain Name Server system. (Link and unlisted number in the Phone network.)

So an anonymous nobody like me who could set up a server that only people I trust could access it for as long as I have a static IP address. Not that I would do such a thing because ever since the movie 'War Games' people have been 'war dialing' ip address/telephone numbers just to see what they get.

Oh look Maude, this one is at the CIA! Cool, eh?

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:19 PM (m9X4Y)

267 Great ONT, CDR!

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM (TdMsT)

268 The Feebs run at least one Tor server, and used it to crack down on some illegality, IIRC.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM (6FqZa)

269 you notice they had to chain the cat to the boat to stop him from abandoning the boat.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM (0wem/)

270 2. what does x-ray equal?

A functional math illiterate?

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM (wTi/q)

271 261 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM

sec(45) * 15 = 21.21 ft.

or

sqrt(15**2 + 15**2) = 21.21 ft.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (DMUuz)

Y'all might as well be speaking Chinese.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM (0mRoj)

272 Heh, I picked up a penny in the parking lot after work the other day. I mumbled, ah, a good luck penny. The young'n walking near me looked at me like I had two heads.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (gDoff)

273 255 I imagine every workplace has folks like that. I know we sure do.

Case in point - I emailed a writeable document to a staff member, and when she tried to fill in some information, she couldn't. I took a look, and told her to click on the "enable editing" button.

Worked like a charm after that.

Posted by: ALH at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (QY6Z3)

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (0wem/)

275 White Lotus is an amazing book! Chinese are in charge and white folks slaves. At the end, they have their own non-violent movement against the rulers.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (Lqy/e)

276 Do you want to play a game?

Posted by: AOSHQ hamster entity at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (nlbfN)

277
I don't think the little plastic cards are going to be around for too much longer. The day isn't that far off when we will be paying for everything with finger or eye scans.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
---------

Our local ACE hardware will no longer accept checks. I was a little pissed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (OdK9v)

278 Yep, did it again.

Only a minute late this time.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (m9X4Y)

279 216 Algebra - My 9th grade algebra teacher, Mr. Rivedal, told us that the day would come when we would pay for everything with a little plastic card, and a penny would hold so little value that you wouldn't pick one up off the ground if you found it, and we didn't believe him.
Posted by: ALH at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (QY6Z3)


When I was a kid, people had credit cards, but they were pretty much for major department stores only. Mom handed the nice cashier her card and the cashier pulled out a huge book to make sure that mom's card wasn't listed. Then the cashier used a device to imprint a copy of the card on a triplicate form and filled out a bunch of information by hand.

We've come a long way over the past 50 years.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (nvMvs)

280 Pretty sure algebra isn't the only subject in school minorities are failing

Posted by: NCKate at July 22, 2017 11:22 PM (2R5JV)

281 you notice they had to chain the cat to the boat to stop him from abandoning the boat.

The cat is actually pulling the boat. Trust me, I'm an engineer.

Posted by: Bill Nye at July 22, 2017 11:22 PM (kuiuS)

282 I hated algebra in school. Frigging hated it. I hated math, so algebra is a shit sandwich on steroids.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:23 PM (aMlLZ)

283 280 Pretty sure algebra isn't the only subject in school minorities are failing
Posted by: NCKate at July 22, 2017 11:22 PM (2R5JV)



Sadly, I believe that's also true.

It's almost as if the problem is more fundamental.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:23 PM (SRKgf)

284 205 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"

What's a joist?
Posted by: Young Adolt at July 22, 2017 11:06 PM (XoldI)


Jesus Christ, that's a steeply pitched roof.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (17QyB)

285 260 So, how does one get there?
Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (D2vc1)


Bob from NSA can help.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (nvMvs)

286 Nope, it's just late and the humidity has dropped from earlier. I can take desert temperatures but I feel like I'm breathing underwater these days.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (Lqy/e)

287 Have a friend / client who is worth an obscene amount of money. Was walking to the subway after dinner one evening, because taking cabs is wasteful, and he stopped in the middle of the sidewalk to pick up a nickel. He did this all the time. Said it was important to realize the value of money and never waste anything.

Now we do it, for the principle. Funny how people with the least money are the most likely to ignore a penny on the ground.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (0wem/)

288 There will never be a USS Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (OdK9v)

289 Since I haven't seen a Gainz Thread in a while (probably because I've been at my "job") I thought I'd mention that today I unleashed the firepower of my armed and fully operational Lifting Playlist. This wettest, nastiest, ball-slappinest playlist has so much testosterone in it, it's a banned substance in 6 professional sports leagues and has been found in Venus and Serena Williams' blood samples. My cardio playlist is still in the R&D phase.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:25 PM (5YBu8)

290 "White Lotus is an amazing book! Chinese are in charge and white folks slaves."

I think Chung Kuo is supposed to be more nuanced - but then, Wingrove published that later (and then republished, and now republished a third time under the author's control).

The Chinese rule, the whites (and others) can attain high ranks but only if they accept Chinese rule. And the upper-class Chinese twits being upper-class Chinese twits stab each other in the back a lot.

Pretty much exactly like upper-class white twits today.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 11:25 PM (6FqZa)

291 282 I hated algebra in school. Frigging hated it. I hated math, so algebra is a shit sandwich on steroids.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:23 PM (aMlLZ)


I can relate to this. Even though I ended up as a physical scientist, I was bored by math. "I'm going to synthesize new compounds, dammit, why waste my time with this shit?" was my attitude.

Now, in my dotage, I'm bored by chemistry, and enchanted by math.

Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:25 PM (SRKgf)

292 Pretty sure algebra isn't the only subject in school minorities are failing

Posted by: NCKate at July 22, 2017 11:22 PM (2R5JV)

Ask a kid under 25 how to change a tire. Not even a subject taught in school but most every male used to know how to do it. Growing up without fathers is taking a toll.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:26 PM (wTi/q)

293 Here's the article I was looking for, speaking of upper-class white twits (literally) fucking us:
tinyurl.com/zlnjrrg

The FBI let a pedobear free because, if it had gone to discovery, they'd have had to release information on how they found out.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (6FqZa)

294 244 "I've heard this "Dark Web" phrase a few times this week. Is that just a term for weird, obscure, legal-relative sites, or something else? "

Not a place where a decent Moron would wish to venture.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 11:07 PM (jm1YL)

It's most infamous for having sites like the "silk road" which is like Amazon, but for illegal guns, illegal drugs, hitmen, kiddy porn, actual children and women for sale, snuff films, and things far, far worse than any of us here could dream up.

Posted by: The Dark Hat at July 22, 2017 11:14 PM (vBeA5)

++++

I have TOR installed on my pc, but just for one site: TPB. They sometimes are unreachable over the regular internet, but their onion address almost always works.

I assume TOR is completely infiltrated by the feds, so I don't even think of using it for anything I wouldn't just do with a regular browser.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (pvjTE)

295 8 ways to tell if you're a psychopath.

https://youtu.be/ypNboW30_JE

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (cAnNx)

296

My trouble was just the opposite. Getting so into the math that I didn't care was it supposed to be used for. :-)

For example, not caring that you get an answer, but how you got it. Is it elegant enough? That looks too messy and convoluted. We need to find a more beautiful solution.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (8O3HH)

297 It's almost as if the problem is more fundamental.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:23 PM (SRKgf)

Once it became unnecessary to work for a living thanks to Government Assistance...

Posted by: davidt at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (XoldI)

298 What's a joist?

Back in the old timey days, the Knights of the Round Table would put on a sporting event at Medieval Festivals for the amusement of the crowds.

Two knights on horse back would charge at each other, each carrying a long, heavy pole, and try to knock the other guy off his horse.

Polish people hated this game as much as short people hate dwarf tossing.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (m9X4Y)

299 Our local ACE hardware will no longer accept checks. I was a little pissed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:21

That's weird. I like my Ace Place, as does the wife. But I usually use a cc, never check.

They are the one w/ good advise I find.

Posted by: Farmer at July 22, 2017 11:28 PM (yJ1e6)

300 Sadly, this was not a singular incident. Kids literally ddn't know how to write their address. It was sad.
Posted by: Tickled Pink


That used to be taught every year in elementary school English class. There was letter writing for various types of letters, addressing envelopes, and postcards. These topics were covered every year from about 3rd grade through 6th. Sometimes the nuns would have you practice by assigning pen pals from schools in other states.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 11:28 PM (+lVUW)

301 A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess using FEN notation?

Posted by: AOSHQ hamster entity at July 22, 2017 11:29 PM (nlbfN)

302 I am an old fart that reads content and comments before committing, so not only an old fart but also old school. That doesn't make me special just I yam what I yam kinda man.

We have 3 children, all in strong marriages, and 7 grandchildren with an 8th on the way. We will out breed you childless ones and the abortion as a claim to fame libtards. Babies are sacred, only the devil can protect anyone within 5 miles who harbors them ill of my grandchildren. The future does not belong to progressive women, it belongs to conservative women you make babies and raise them wisely.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 22, 2017 11:29 PM (CHPoA)

303 Have a friend / client who is worth an obscene amount of money.

So am I! Obscenely little. It never ceases to amaze me that I can save so much of my income and have it invested by knowledgeable people and every quarter the balance is exactly the same.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 22, 2017 11:29 PM (PBalj)

304 @300

Yup nerdy girl....same here. Minus the nuns. Well, we had nuns but not for those classes.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 11:29 PM (smD62)

305 That used to be taught every year in elementary school English class. There was letter writing for various types of letters, addressing envelopes, and postcards. These topics were covered every year from about 3rd grade through 6th. Sometimes the nuns would have you practice by assigning pen pals from schools in other states.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 11:28 PM (+lVUW)



But now its e-mail.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 11:30 PM (cAnNx)

306 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?

I'd be saying don't you mean rafters, Dad? And 45 degrees is freaking steep- hope you're not planning on ME putting that roof on!

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:30 PM (kuiuS)

307 8 ways to tell if you're a psychopath.
Are you talking to me??? ARE YOU!!!??? ARE YOU!!!???

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at July 22, 2017 11:31 PM (nlbfN)

308 My trouble was just the opposite. Getting so into the math that I didn't care was it supposed to be used for. :-)

For example, not caring that you get an answer, but how you got it. Is it elegant enough? That looks too messy and convoluted. We need to find a more beautiful solution.
Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (8O3HH)



The best mathematicians are often not all that good at physics. The mathematics is there to describe the physics, not the other way around.

Physicists are people who are good at math, but recognize the physical reality.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:31 PM (SRKgf)

309 "Easy as 1-2-3."
-- Jackson 5

The Fibonacci seque--- ...

... hey, w8 a minute. I posted this earlier today.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 11:31 PM (zkGZ8)

310 206 I had my second laser surgery last Thursday for cataracts. It was easy and painless. As an added bonus, I am no lo get extremely nearsighted. I now only need reading glasses which I can buy in the dollar store. I've worn glasses since the third grade and I still find myself reaching up to adjust them even though they are no longer there.
Posted by: Bill R.


My younger sister just went through it. She always wore thick glasses. She's amazed at how well she sees now.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 22, 2017 11:31 PM (+lVUW)

311 301 A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess using FEN notation?

Posted by: AOSHQ hamster entity at July 22, 2017 11:29 PM (nlbfN)



What's the FEN notation to flip over the board and kick the table?

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 11:31 PM (cAnNx)

312 So, how does one get there?
Posted by: Country Boy at July 22, 2017 11:08 PM (D2vc1)

If you must... use Tor. But really think about going there first.

Posted by: kraken at July 22, 2017 11:32 PM (pL6Vz)

313 I'd be saying don't you mean rafters, Dad? And 45 degrees is freaking steep- hope you're not planning on ME putting that roof on!
Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:30 PM (kuiuS)


Yeah, I corrected that above. And the problem was obviously made up.

But the point remains. When you're actually going to do manual labor, it's worthwhile getting the math right BEFORE you start.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:32 PM (SRKgf)

314 kitten wants to play reminds me of my now old and blind cat when she was a kitten, then a young cat. We had an elderly German Shepherd with hip dysplasia and arthritis caused by the hip dysplasia when she moved in on us fourteen years ago. Much to my surprise, the GSD accepted the half grown fur ball with no problem, and there was peace when I had expected war. Penny, the young cat, was full of energy and mischief. Murphy, the dog, just got older, slower and more bothered by her hurting hips. That wretched cat would wait until poor Murphy got stretched out and as comfortable as she could get, then zip over and leap on the dog's head, forcing poor Murphy to leap up and start trying to get comfortable again. (The vet prescribed pain pills for the dog, and we were not the least bit stingy with them.) Now it's poor Penny's turn to suffer the slings and arrows of a much younger, active cat who just wants to play.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 22, 2017 11:34 PM (lMsBz)

315 Actually Weather Underground says 68% humidity, which is closer to the truth.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2017 11:34 PM (Lqy/e)

316 " ... don't you mean rafter, Dad?"

Dad must be in Colorado and eating pot brownies.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 22, 2017 11:34 PM (CHPoA)

317 Y'all might as well be speaking Chinese.
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM


Nah. There's a building 30 feet across that needs a roof. He wants the rafters to be at a 45 degree angle over the middle. Since the middle is over the middle, that's 15 feet in. Touch your thumbs together, and then your index fingers, to make a triangle. Each thumb represents 15 feet, and where your index fingers touch is 15 feet above where your thumbs meet. He wants to know how long each index finger would have to be to close the triangle.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 11:34 PM (DMUuz)

318 The Fibonacci seque--- ...


I suspect the Fibonacci sequence was invented by some guy named Fibonacci working out in the gym.

"OK, I've got to do 20 reps."

"1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21. OK, I'm done."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:34 PM (SRKgf)

319 I am an old fart that reads content and comments before committing, so not only an old fart but also old school. That doesn't make me special just I yam what I yam kinda man.

We have 3 children, all in strong marriages, and 7 grandchildren with an 8th on the way. We will out breed you childless ones and the abortion as a claim to fame libtards. Babies are sacred, only the devil can protect anyone within 5 miles who harbors them ill of my grandchildren. The future does not belong to progressive women, it belongs to conservative women you make babies and raise them wisely.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 22, 2017 11:29 PM

Haha, right on!

(And for the record, my lack of kids wasn't due to a lack of wanting them, but rather a poor showing in the dating field.) XD

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:35 PM (q1+kD)

320 Our local ACE hardware will no longer accept checks. I was a little pissed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (OdK9v)

++++

Most payment systems that take credit cards also accept debit cards. That's practically the same a a check, except the money flows out immediately instead of having to wait for the check to clear.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 11:35 PM (FUu/Z)

321 Pretty sure Joist was an early arcade game where you ride around on a giant ostrich, or something.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at July 22, 2017 11:35 PM (jZgTE)

322 While replacing the water heater in my daughters house. She came down in the basement and asked "did Grandpa teach you how to do this?". I hesitated because I don't remember doing that specific task with my Dad but lots of general plumbing and basic electrical. Dad taught me way more than I learned in school.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:36 PM (wTi/q)

323 I assume TOR is completely infiltrated by the feds, so I don't even think of using it for anything I wouldn't just do with a regular browser.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (pvjTE)

Oh yeah, the Feds and every other entity... world wide web... Feds, NSA, CIA, and all foreign equivalents... plus cartels, ISIS....

Posted by: kraken at July 22, 2017 11:36 PM (pL6Vz)

324 Now we do it, for the principle. Funny how people with the least money are the most likely to ignore a penny on the ground.
Posted by: yankeefifth
------------

I was walking down along the Soo locks when I saw a kid coming the opposite way. He was kicking a shiny object along. He mis-kicked it and it went off the side of the sidewalk. He just kept walking.

When I got down to where the object had gone off the edge, I looked for it, thinking it must be a washer. It was a dime. I thought, "You know kid, it might mean anything to you, but there have been too many times when I wished that I had another ten cents", and happily picked it up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:36 PM (OdK9v)

325
*squirt*

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at July 22, 2017 11:37 PM (t5m5e)

326 I had a penpal from Japan in elementary school. She used to send me origami. I wonder what ever happened to those letters. They had the red and blue angle stripes on the edges. Learned how to change the oil and change a tire in high school. Being a single mom. I taught my daughter the same. The only time I didn't let her near me working on the truck is when I got a flat tire on the truck that had split rims. So did the spare. She was about 7. I made her stand 50 feet away when I changed that tire.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:37 PM (gDoff)

327 I was walking down along the Soo locks when I saw a kid coming the opposite way. He was kicking a shiny object along. He mis-kicked it and it went off the side of the sidewalk. He just kept walking.

When I got down to where the object had gone off the edge, I looked for it, thinking it must be a washer. It was a dime. I thought, "You know kid, it might mean anything to you, but there have been too many times when I wished that I had another ten cents", and happily picked it up.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July




yep.



poor parenting.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:37 PM (0wem/)

328 What's the FEN notation to flip over the board and kick the table?
Kneeing OM in the crotch: Knee-to-Balls-OM.

Posted by: AOSHQ hamster entity at July 22, 2017 11:38 PM (nlbfN)

329 Grammie, have fun and stay safe!

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM (ZapPq)

330 You know who doesn't need algebra? Everybody in administration. That half of each company or organization which does nothing but push papers to each other.

They can rely on the TV to tell them everything they need to know, anyways.

Me? My life would be much poorer without math. Trig is how the physical world is built, calculus is how it moves. Math is a beautiful thing.

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM (kuiuS)

331 Grammie, have fun and stay safe!
Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM (ZapPq)

Word... don't go riding around the countryside.

Posted by: kraken at July 22, 2017 11:40 PM (pL6Vz)

332 That's it for me tonight. Ciao.

Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at July 22, 2017 11:41 PM (nlbfN)

333 307 8 ways to tell if you're a psychopath.
Are you talking to me??? ARE YOU!!!??? ARE YOU!!!???


Posted by: andycanuck #CNNBlackmail at July 22, 2017 11:31 PM (nlbfN)




Of course not.



Your emotional outburst indicates sociopathy, not psychopathy.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 11:42 PM (cAnNx)

334 There will never be a USS Hillary Clinton

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (OdK9v)



Every major U.S.N. port has at least one garbage scow in the Harbor Maintenance Fleet.

I think her name would be an entirely fitting name for such a vessel. And the mirth enjoyed by the crew would far outweigh the shame of the name.

I'm imagining what the Commissioning Crew would come up with for the Ship's Logo and Latin Motto.

I'm thinking of the Ship's Logo as a be-Sunglassed Secret Service Agents, tossing a clearly pictured garbage can over a bollard, and the Latin phrasing of "Trash Never Sleeps, but Sometimes Faints", or some such.

Done right, I think Sailors would find great satisfaction and the fleet much amusement, at the Harbor Scow, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Homeport: Guantamo Bay, Cuba.

(alternate Ship's Motto: "She will NEVER be President!")



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


p.s. The Ship's Sponsor at launching, The Hon. Sarah Palin, breaks a bottle of Champagne Hitlery's brand of Scotch, across the ship's stem.


/snrk!

Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2017 11:42 PM (v5iqM)

335 Dad taught me way more than I learned in school.
Posted by: X-ray

I wish I had been smarter and/or more humble back in the day so that I could have learned more from Grandpa (God rest him). He was a farm boy in the depression, so he had so many skills that are dying with the rest of the WW2 generation. Sad.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:42 PM (5YBu8)

336 They can rely on the TV to tell them everything they need to know, anyways.

Me? My life would be much poorer without math. Trig is how the physical world is built, calculus is how it moves. Math is a beautiful thing.
Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM (kuiuS)

So..the difference between producers and consumers?

Posted by: kraken at July 22, 2017 11:42 PM (pL6Vz)

337 Me? My life would be much poorer without math. Trig is how the physical world is built, calculus is how it moves. Math is a beautiful thing.

Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM

I think part of the problem is that it isn't taught that way. More like: here, memorize this formula and solve. No, no, never mind what it means, just do it...

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (q1+kD)

338
So if I have no empathy and no emotional control, then I'm a sociopath, not a psychopath?

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (m9X4Y)

339 Now we do it, for the principle. Funny how people with the least money are the most likely to ignore a penny on the ground.
Posted by: yankeefifth



Now there's a coinky-dink.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (SRKgf)

340 But the point remains. When you're actually going to do manual labor, it's worthwhile getting the math right BEFORE you start.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:32 PM (SRKgf)


That's for sure. I'm psychotic when it comes to measuring. I use a lot of calipers and micrometers. With the stuff I do a stupid measuring mistake results in epic failure of galactic proportions that there is no recovery from.


Did I mention how I hate frigging math?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (aMlLZ)

341 Howdy, Infidel!

My dad showed me how to check my car fluids. He used to change his own oil (and mine) until it became economical to have a shop do it.

When I was a driving instructor, one of my students was extremely nervous and when trying to negotiate a corner, she gunned the gas and didn't straighten the wheel (instructor-side brakes were a joke) so we rammed a curb and flattened a tire.

So I said, "For today's lesson, we will learn how to change a tire."

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (ZapPq)

342 My life would be much poorer without math. Trig is how the physical world is built, calculus is how it moves. Math is a beautiful thing.
Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM (kuiuS)


Amen. Preach it!

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:45 PM (ZapPq)

343 FIGHT FOR 15!!!!!

(OK, our company hires part-time workers making $11 an hour for a total of 1500 labor hours a week. If the minimum wage is increased to $15 an hour right now as you demand, how many labor hours will be on next week's schedule?)

*crickets*

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 11:45 PM (zkGZ8)

344 I think part of the problem is that it isn't taught that way. More like: here, memorize this formula and solve. No, no, never mind what it means, just do it...
Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (q1+kD)



Shitty teaching is the bane of STEM subjects. Memorization should play little or no role. Introductory level STEM subjects should be taught by those from other disciplines for whom the precepts of the STEM subject are not intuitively obvious, but who had to learn to grasp them by dint of hard work.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:46 PM (SRKgf)

345 USS Hillary Clinton

It's a shart-range sloop.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM (Eynls)

346 So I said, "For today's lesson, we will learn how to change a tire."

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM

Heh, nice.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM (q1+kD)

347 Ask a kid under 25 how to change a tire. Not even a subject taught in school but most every male used to know how to do it. Growing up without fathers is taking a toll.
Posted by: X-ray
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Ah! That reminds me. Yesterday as I was passing a parking lot, I noticed a Tesla being loaded onto a AAA roll-back. I was so curious that I turned around and went back to find out what the story was.

There was a mid 60-ish yuppy lady standing and watching. I asked if it was her car, and she said that it was. I asked what the problem was, "I had a flat tire she responded". I asked her why the AAA fellow didn't just change the tire. "It doesn't have a spare tire" she answered.

Geeze-o-pete, did I have to bite my tongue. So, I got into my 22 year-old second hand truck and drove home, leaving her there standing in the hot parking lot as her Tesla was carted away.

I had to look it up went I got home, it seemed so unbelievable, but, no...no spare tire. WTFF?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM (OdK9v)

348 141 Emmie, math instructors clearly excepted.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 10:39 PM (6FqZa)


Thank you, BTH.

*calms down*

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM (ZapPq)

349 One does not simply walk into the Dark Web.

Posted by: Boromir at July 22, 2017 11:48 PM (jZgTE)

350 In high school I laughed at ever needing to memorize the periodic table. Now because of my job I have memorized 90% of it. I would get stumped in a test on the names of most of the man made elements though.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:48 PM (wTi/q)

351 Nah. There's a building 30 feet across that needs a roof. He wants the rafters to be at a 45 degree angle over the middle. Since the middle is over the middle, that's 15 feet in. Touch your thumbs together, and then your index fingers, to make a triangle. Each thumb represents 15 feet, and where your index fingers touch is 15 feet above where your thumbs meet. He wants to know how long each index finger would have to be to close the triangle.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 11:34 PM (DMUuz)

That makes perfect sense. The calculation itself is foreign to me.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:48 PM (0mRoj)

352 That's for sure. I'm psychotic when it comes to measuring. I use a lot of calipers and micrometers. With the stuff I do a stupid measuring mistake results in epic failure of galactic proportions that there is no recovery from.


Did I mention how I hate frigging math?
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (aMlLZ)



I can relate, my brother. I can do the calculations, but am congenitally incapable of cutting anything straight, or ever cutting two things separately to exactly the same length, no matter how hard I try.

Good thing I was a chemist, and not a carpenter, eh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (SRKgf)

353 lol Emmie. I flunked my first driving test because the I hadn't closed the door on the '49 Chevy pick-up. The driver side door flew open going a corner. The instructor freaked out more that I did.

I think part of the problem is that it isn't taught that way. More
like: here, memorize this formula and solve. No, no, never mind what it
means, just do it...

I find that at work a lot. I went from paralegal to a manufacturing plant doing QA. When I ask why the do something a certain way, they say, 'cause that's how we do it. I want to know why you do it that way.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (gDoff)

354 USS Hillary Clinton

It's a shart-range sloop.
Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron
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Limbaugh has suggested that they name a garbage scow after Bill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (OdK9v)

355 I had to look it up went I got home, it seemed so unbelievable, but, no...no spare tire. WTFF?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM

Well, I guess with the range on those things, they figure you can just walk home and get the spare.

Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (q1+kD)

356 (OK, our company hires part-time workers making $11 an hour for a total of 1500 labor hours a week. If the minimum wage is increased to $15 an hour right now as you demand, how many labor hours will be on next week's schedule?)

*crickets*
Posted by: FireHorse

Let's see if I can do this drunk:
1500 labor hours at $11/hour=$16,500 labor budget.
$16,500 budget divided by $15/hour=1100 labor hours. How'd I do?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (5YBu8)

357 345 USS Hillary Clinton

It's a shart-range sloop.
Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM (Eynls)

--------

Clittoral Combat Ship?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 22, 2017 11:50 PM (PXj2C)

358 338
So if I have no empathy and no emotional control, then I'm a sociopath, not a psychopath wife

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (m9X4Y)

FTFY

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:50 PM (0mRoj)

359 343 FIGHT FOR 15!!!!!

(OK, our company hires part-time workers making $11 an hour for a total of 1500 labor hours a week. If the minimum wage is increased to $15 an hour right now as you demand, how many labor hours will be on next week's schedule?)

*crickets*
Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 11:45 PM


(beep) None. (beep

Posted by: Unit 386 at July 22, 2017 11:51 PM (DMUuz)

360 While replacing the water heater in my daughters house. She came down in the basement and asked "did Grandpa teach you how to do this?". I hesitated because I don't remember doing that specific task with my Dad but lots of general plumbing and basic electrical. Dad taught me way more than I learned in school.


Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:36 PM (wTi/q)


Did you set your dad on fire with a plumbers torch like I did? We still laugh about that. He was positioning the copper pipes and fittings and handed me the torch. He was reaching up checking to make sure everything was ready to be soldered, and I brain farted while watching what he was doing. I burned a hole through his flannel shirt and just started browning his t shirt. He looks down with a mostly calm voice and says "hey you got me on fire". lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:51 PM (aMlLZ)

361 330 You know who doesn't need algebra? Everybody in administration. That half of each company or organization which does nothing but push papers to each other.


Posted by: t-bird at July 22, 2017 11:39 PM (kuiuS)


What is Pi?

A Mathematician would tell you its the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.

A physicist would tell you it's 3.1415 and the numbers keep going on never repeating.

An engineer would tell you, "about 3. But I would use 4 to be safe."

An administrator would tell you, "Its dessert today isn't it!?"

And the salesman would tell you "Well the engineer would tell you its about 3, but I can get to you for 2 1/2."

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 11:51 PM (cAnNx)

362 I want to know why you do it that way.
Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (gDoff)


It's easier to remember if you know why.

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:51 PM (ZapPq)

363 I had to look it up went I got home, it seemed so unbelievable, but, no...no spare tire. WTFF?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

With new cars these days, you're lucky if the dealer gives you a can of Fix-a-flat.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:52 PM (5YBu8)

364 350 In high school I laughed at ever needing to memorize the periodic table. Now because of my job I have memorized 90% of it. I would get stumped in a test on the names of most of the man made elements though.
Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:48 PM (wTi/q)



Hell, I don't remember those either. If they've made fewer than 100 atoms of it, fuck it, is my attitude.

For that matter, I don't remember the lanthanide and actinides generally, either.

Having said that, I did expect students to remember the rest of the periodic table. Half of it they probably knew already (e.g., alkali metals, halogens), so in 10 minutes they could easily learn the rest. That way when I talked about group 15 elements, I expected them to know I meant N, P, As, Sb, Bi.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:53 PM (SRKgf)

365 I had to look it up went I got home, it seemed so unbelievable, but, no...no spare tire. WTFF?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:47 PM (OdK9v)

We bought my wife a new Hyundai Elantra. Great car. Love it. But, yup. No spare tire, not even that all but worthless donut once found in the trunk. Just a half-ass fix-a-flat canister. So, we bought a full-size spare tire and it now resides in the trunk.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 22, 2017 11:53 PM (lXk/B)

366 Whoa. Cars with no spares? Yikes!

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (ZapPq)

367 Y'all might as well be speaking Chinese.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:20 PM (0mRoj)

No...it's logical. Believe when I say that, because I have absolutely no mathematical aptitude yet did reasonably well until some psychotic decided that Differential Equations should be taught to humans.

The basic concept is a ratio. And with a pencil and a ruler you could figure it out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (wYseH)

368 @354 garbage scow BilL

I can think of any more bad jokes. Night all!

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (Eynls)

369 ... =1100 labor hours. How'd I do?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable
________

You get half credit for this question. (You would have received less, but you showed your work.)

The preliminary schedule would indeed show 1100 labor hours. But when the workers realized that their hours had been cut for no reason, they would have burned the company's facilities to the ground, leaving the schedule in ashes.

The correct answer is 0 labor hours.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (zkGZ8)

370 I can relate, my brother. I can do the calculations, but am congenitally incapable of cutting anything straight, or ever cutting two things separately to exactly the same length, no matter how hard I try.

Good thing I was a chemist, and not a carpenter, eh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:49 PM (SRKgf)


I would be the opposite, I learned cabinet and counter top making, and between that and guitar building it has me able to cut a line like a laser did it, but if it was chemicals I would probably blow up the house. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (aMlLZ)

371

Speaking of war dialing/port scanning, IP6 should make that computationally infeasible (for a while, at least). 128 bits total.

I've been playing with. Charter is supposed to be rolling out native IP6, but they haven't done it here yet, but they have a 6rd relay, and I use that to play with IP6 internet.

The way it is typically set up is you get 64 bits of "prefix". This is like a public IP address your ISP gives you. The lower order 64-bits are up to you.

So, with IP 6, my router (through the 6rd) relay gets a 64-bit prefix. The machines on the net then have another 64-bit address space to use.

So, if someone had that prefix, they would still have to scan 64-bits worth of possible address space to find any live machine on the subnet.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (8O3HH)

372 277 Our local ACE hardware will no longer accept checks. I was a little pissed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (OdK9v)


Checks take businesses time to process.

I write maybe 5 checks a year, if not less.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 22, 2017 11:54 PM (nvMvs)

373 363 I had to look it up went I got home, it seemed so unbelievable, but, no...no spare tire. WTFF?
Posted by: Mike Hammer

With new cars these days, you're lucky if the dealer gives you a can of Fix-a-flat.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 11:52 PM (5YBu

I drive an '04 Camry.... full-sized spare ( really big trunk too)... still the original Michelin spare.
I may keep the car for... forever.

Posted by: kraken at July 22, 2017 11:55 PM (pL6Vz)

374 A physicist would tell you it's 3.1415 and the numbers keep going on never repeating.
-------------

That's just plain irrational.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:55 PM (OdK9v)

375 Grew up on an Iowa farm 1950s and early 60s. You had to be a jack of all trades. If you couldn't fix or repair or build you had to give up hard earned cash. So you did it yourself. Learned a lot from grandparents and parents. A country boy/girl will survive. I am salt of the earth. Not dumb by any means, not a crease of the pants intellectual. Just an old farm boy with 20/20 vision. Got dead aim.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 22, 2017 11:55 PM (CHPoA)

376 I asked her why the AAA fellow didn't just change the tire. "It doesn't have a spare tire"///

One of my daughters used AAA to change a flat tire recently (she knows how but with 3kids under 6 not easy). The temp spare was low and the AAA guy sent her to a gas station for air. What tow truck doesn't have an compressor or at least a portable air tank.

Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:55 PM (wTi/q)

377 It's almost as if the problem is more fundamental.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:23 PM (SRKgf)

Interesting idea.

Posted by: Hernstein & Murray at July 22, 2017 11:56 PM (wYseH)

378 It's easier to remember if you know why.

Posted by: Emmie at July 22, 2017 11:51 PM (ZapPq)

Yep.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:56 PM (gDoff)

379 Now there's a coinky-dink.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July




hiyo! what does money in kentucky have to do with anything?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 11:56 PM (0wem/)

380 Basic Math & Geometry.

When I set the tile in the kitchen, I included a "border" feature in the middle of the floor, basically equating to the outline of a 30"x45" rectangle of 2" wide border tiles, inset into the field of 12"x12" tiles, which were laid in the diagonal, but with the aforementioned "border" set of tiles, oriented along the true long and cross axis of the kitchen.

The layout of the kitchen has the oven/range set against the North wall, and the refrigerator set directly across the kitchen on the South wall.

Result? The "pockets" in which sit the stove & fridge respectively, all terminate in triangular tiles of about 1.5" on the two sides as defined by their 90 degree corners. All four of those "corner" tiles, would interchange into any of the four corners.

That's a pretty good degree of accuracy in the runout from the initial measuring and setting in of that aforementioned "border", which was actually the first bit of tile set in the project.

The only 12"12" field tile within that border, which did not have to be run through the tile saw, was the center tile.

Wish I could post a pic, here. The measured accuracy across the whole kitchen tile project is better than 1/64th in., across a twelve foot span.

You know the old "measure twice, cut once?

That's a full half-day of measuring, marking, tweaking and measuring again and again.

First tile didn't go down till I was absolutely certain that the last tile would go in perfectly

Doing things WITH math, makes one better AT math. Every damn time.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2017 11:56 PM (v5iqM)

381 Wow , I was stIll on the comedy thread. I'm like the stoner who woke up at the party that everyone else had left 5 hours ago.

Posted by: LASue at July 22, 2017 11:57 PM (Mjus2)

382

288 There will never be a USS Hillary Clinton
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:24 PM (OdK9v)


What a very lovely post. It made me extremely happy.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 22, 2017 11:57 PM (TdMsT)

383 The correct answer is 0 labor hours.

Posted by: FireHorse
________

Holy freaking crap, a correct answer at #359. Someone just earned an arson conviction or a promotion.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 11:57 PM (zkGZ8)

384 261 "A building is 30 feet wide. Its joists need to meet in the middle at a 45 degree angle. How long does each joist need to be?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 22, 2017 11:03 PM

sec(45) * 15 = 21.21 ft.

or

sqrt(15**2 + 15**2) = 21.21 ft.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 22, 2017 11:18 PM (DMUuz)


Wouldn't that be 15/sin(22.5)=39.2 ft?

I say 22.5 because I understand the total rafter angle is 45 degrees.

I'm using sin and not sec because I can find it on my calculator.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2017 11:57 PM (17QyB)

385 The USS Hillary Clinton would have to be followed around by that ship shipping ship (call back to ONTs past), to pick her up and carry her when she starts listing.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at July 22, 2017 11:58 PM (jZgTE)

386 One of my daughters used AAA to change a flat tire recently (she knows how but with 3kids under 6 not easy). The temp spare was low and the AAA guy sent her to a gas station for air. What tow truck doesn't have an compressor or at least a portable air tank.
Posted by: X-ray at July 22, 2017 11:55 PM (wTi/q)

This is most likely the most depressing thing I've read all week.

Proper fooked, we are.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 22, 2017 11:58 PM (lXk/B)

387 Whoa. Cars with no spares? Yikes!
Posted by: Emmie
-------

Not just a car, but a $70,000 car. Not counting the subsidy, which youpay with your tax dollars.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:59 PM (OdK9v)

388 think part of the problem is that it isn't taught that way. More like: here, memorize this formula and solve. No, no, never mind what it means, just do it...
Posted by: Erik the Redacted, Deplorable Barbarian at July 22, 2017 11:43 PM (q1+kD)


Shitty teaching is the bane of STEM subjects. Memorization should play little or no role. Introductory level STEM subjects should be taught by those from other disciplines for whom the precepts of the STEM subject are not intuitively obvious, but who had to learn to grasp them by dint of hard work.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July



I learned more "math" in my first year after college than all the preceding because I had to know it and had a reason to know everything I was learning.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 12:00 AM (0wem/)

389 He looks down with a mostly calm voice and says "hey you got me on fire". lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 11:51

Now that's FFFE. Thanks for the laugh and I should go to bed. Work beckons tomorrow.

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:00 AM (yJ1e6)

390 The ONT, it's full of math.

Yikes

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:00 AM (iynDC)

391
Come on guys, think about this how a computer scientist should thing. Computational difficulty.

You only need one trig function, which is transcendental. If you know the slope as a ratio, you don't need to know the angle. If you only know the angle, then you're going to need on transcendental trig function.

You exercise is to calculate the rafter length using the least number of arithmetic operations possible.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 23, 2017 12:01 AM (8O3HH)

392 How wide are the joists/rafters? do you want the length of the outsides, insides, or centers?

Posted by: davidt at July 23, 2017 12:02 AM (XoldI)

393 If we aren't going to get any Yoko, I suppose we could get some . . .


Shonen Knife?

https://youtu.be/sv6zD5B9GtE

Posted by: Kindltot at July 23, 2017 12:03 AM (mkDpn)

394 That makes perfect sense. The calculation itself is foreign to me.
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 11:48 PM


Well, the Pythagorean Theorum tells us that with a right triangle, the length of the hypotenuse (the rafter) equals the square root of the squares of the other two sides added together. Or c squared equals a squared + b squared. a is your thumb, b is the distance from thumbs to tips of index fingers, So 15 times 15 is 450, add another 15 times 15 to get 900, and since that is c squared, take its square root, which equals approximately 21.21

Or using trigonometry, you can take the secant of 45 degrees times 15, and get 21.21

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:03 AM (DMUuz)

395 For you Sudoku fans. Did you know that any arrangement of the numerals 123456789 is divisible (without remainder) by 9 ?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:03 AM (OdK9v)

396 That makes perfect sense. The calculation itself is foreign to me.

You multiply 15 by 1.4142.

Did I mention that we used four digit trig tables in high school and I've seen that number (and .7071) five billion times?

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:03 AM (OBJWS)

397 @357 much better! I can now retire peacefully.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 23, 2017 12:04 AM (Eynls)

398
You know the old "measure twice, cut once?

That's a full half-day of measuring, marking, tweaking and measuring again and again.

First tile didn't go down till I was absolutely certain that the last tile would go in perfectly

Doing things WITH math, makes one better AT math. Every damn time.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX



Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2017 11:56 PM (v5iqM)


I went psychotic when I put down 2 marble floors. I laid it all out for the best visual pattern and cuts, and then numbered each tile with masking tape and a sharpie.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:04 AM (aMlLZ)

399 I was told there would be no math out here in the real world.

Posted by: California Community College Graduate at July 23, 2017 12:04 AM (OBJWS)

400 You must also account for the overhang on the outside framing.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:04 AM (gDoff)

401 The ONT, it's full of math.

Yikes

Posted by: rhomboid
________

"This article is about mathematics."
-- Wikipedia entry for Rhomboid

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 12:04 AM (zkGZ8)

402 I never stop to pick up coins off the ground. That's how the jawas get you. Or post-apocalyptic cannibals. You get distracted by the shiny, and then you're theirs.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 12:05 AM (H5knJ)

403 Everyone accepts that that the Pythagorean Theorem is valid, but not one person in a thousand has ever looked at Euclid's proof that it is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:06 AM (OdK9v)

404
But now its e-mail.
Posted by: buzzion


True, but you still need to know how to write an address.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 23, 2017 12:06 AM (+lVUW)

405 Did you know that any arrangement of the numerals 123456789 is divisible (without remainder) by 9 ?

Yes, because any string of digits that adds up to (and re-adds up to, etc.) 9 is divisible by 9.

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:07 AM (kuiuS)

406 Yikes, What Ever Happened to Baby Jane is on. What a dark movie.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:07 AM (gDoff)

407 Not necessarily amazing and maybe obvious to most people. But my dad had us help put up a pole barn. To get things level from 60 feet across he pulled out some clear tubing and put water in it. Seemed like magic at the time that something so simple worked so accurately.

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 12:08 AM (wTi/q)

408 I say 22.5 because I understand the total rafter angle is 45 degrees.

Oh, man, you're right. But that would be a retarded roof. Or a Weinerschnitzel roof.

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:08 AM (kuiuS)

409 Wouldn't that be 15/sin(22.5)=39.2 ft?
I'm using sin and not sec because I can find it on my calculator.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2017 11:57 PM


Secant is the reciprocal of cosine, not sine. Try (1/(cos(45)))*15

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (DMUuz)

410 Everyone accepts that that the Pythagorean Theorem is valid, but not one person in a thousand has ever looked at Euclid's proof that it is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer
________

Is that the 4 triangles that make the square and the little square inside and then you move 2 triangles so that there are 2 small squares inside?

Posted by: FireHorse at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (zkGZ8)

411 You know the old "measure twice, cut once?

I once measured a 2x4 1' short in shop class. 8th grade. Earned me the scorn of my classmates and my shop teacher, who looked like the old fatguy ijn Porky's, only less forgiving.

I guess I did learn something. I measure five or ten times, then pause, then go for it, and sigh in relief if it fits.

MEASURE AS OFTEN AS NEEDED, THEN FUCKING CUT!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (lXk/B)

412 Yes, because any string of digits that adds up to (and re-adds up to, etc.) 9 is divisible by 9.
Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:07 AM (kuiuS)


Why is that? This and primes make me start trying to re-invent the Kabalah for Methodists.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (mkDpn)

413
I have TOR installed on my pc, but just for one site: TPB. They sometimes are unreachable over the regular internet, but their onion address almost always works.

I assume TOR is completely infiltrated by the feds, so I don't even think of using it for anything I wouldn't just do with a regular browser.
---

Now you've made me want to figure out if I still have Tor installed, and then try to go to that site.

Which I probably shouldn't do.

Damn!

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:11 AM (aT+Bx)

414 Measure thrice, cut once. If it still doesn't fix you need a bigger hammer.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 23, 2017 12:12 AM (CHPoA)

415 Flooring my shed, which was 17' long, with red cedar, I was intent upon doing so with no adjacent end joints and using minimum lumber. I ended up writing a program to figure it out. I think I had a 3' piece left over.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:12 AM (OdK9v)

416 Did you know that any arrangement of the numerals 123456789 is divisible (without remainder) by 9 ?

Yes, because any string of digits that adds up to (and re-adds up to, etc.) 9 is divisible by 9.
Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:07 AM (kuiuS)

God speaks to us through mathematics.

*shrugs*

Works for me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:13 AM (lXk/B)

417
One of the many gadgets I've acquired over the years is an electronic water level. It beeps at you when the water on the other end touches the sensor in the unit, and you know the level mark is the water level in the end of the hose.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 23, 2017 12:13 AM (8O3HH)

418 Measure thrice, cut once. If it still doesn't fix you need a bigger hammer.

Posted by: colfax mingo at July 23, 2017 12:12 AM (CHPoA)

And add WD40 and Duct Tape.

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 12:13 AM (wTi/q)

419 Geez, I need to hire one of you guys to do my kitchen floor.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:14 AM (gDoff)

420 Be well all. We're prepared for more of a deluge on the river from WI tomorrow.

I think this is less flooding since 1993, won't be serious damage here. Prayers up for those w/ worse problems.

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:14 AM (yJ1e6)

421 I once measured a 2x4 1' short in shop class.

Happens all the damned time. I work with 30-year veterans. They measure and measure and measure even though they are really good machinists.

Funny that they make fewer mistakes than I do. And they go twice as fast as me because they haven't screwed up the part.

Posted by: t-bird at July 23, 2017 12:14 AM (OBJWS)

422 So, the boy is in the Seattle area for the next couple of weeks doing some certification.


He calls tonight and talks about how nice the area is, but how expensive it is. How the housing and other things cost similar to California (where he currently lives) but the food in restaurants is astronomically expensive.


That would be the $15/hr minimum wage, bucko. Tell us again how you think Bernie Sanders "has some good ideas."


Maybe in fantasyland...

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:14 AM (/o9Qk)

423 And add WD40 and Duct Tape.
Posted by: X-ray

Duct tape: the handyman's secret weapon.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:15 AM (5YBu8)

424
How could they have left out this unfortunate product name.
http://tinyurl.com/y8djol46

Posted by: YIKES! at July 23, 2017 12:16 AM (t6XCL)

425 You forgot bailing wire.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:16 AM (gDoff)

426 You know the old "measure twice, cut once?

I once measured a 2x4 1' short in shop class. 8th grade. Earned me the scorn of my classmates and my shop teacher, who looked like the old fatguy ijn Porky's, only less forgiving.

I guess I did learn something. I measure five or ten times, then pause, then go for it, and sigh in relief if it fits.

MEASURE AS OFTEN AS NEEDED, THEN FUCKING CUT!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (lXk/B)


When I was doing kitchens and baths I had to install a kitchen for a friend of my father. I show up and everything is off by a mile. My father was a kick ass kitchen designer, he was the ice man, never made mistakes in measuring or design..like ever. So my father calls his friend and asks him how the hell he measured the damn kitchen and starts getting all forensic like. After some back and forth they figure out his friend used a folding ruler and left one of the sections folded. Talk about face palm. That was a disaster.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:16 AM (aMlLZ)

427 @219 cb

Hey, i only know how it could be done. No interest in going there. Last night's ONT spilling over to EMT was dark web enough for me.

Posted by: unsure if deplorable, moron at July 22, 2017 11:10 PM (Eynls)

Hmmmm, guess I have some reading to do.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 12:17 AM (Jcg9Q)

428 409 Wouldn't that be 15/sin(22.5)=39.2 ft?
I'm using sin and not sec because I can find it on my calculator.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2017 11:57 PM

Secant is the reciprocal of cosine, not sine. Try (1/(cos(45)))*15

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (DMUuz)


I forgot to add, we're looking for the length of the hypotenuse, not the height (adjacent). We have opposite length (15) and top angle (22.5), so 15/sin(22.5)= 15/.383=39.2.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:17 AM (17QyB)

429 How could they have left out this unfortunate product name.

http://tinyurl.com/y8djol46

Posted by: YIKES! at July 23, 2017 12:16 AM (t6XCL)

I love that soup.

Posted by: Shemp at July 23, 2017 12:17 AM (wTi/q)

430 I think this is less flooding since 1993, won't be serious damage here. Prayers up for those w/ worse problems.
Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:14 AM (yJ1e6)

Weather is a capricious hell-bitch. We in Northern Colorado have not gotten a good soaking since May, but the lakes are full thanks to a stupendous winter snow-pack. My lawn is all but dead, but Boyd Lake is water-skiing nirvana.

Anyway, hang tough, endeavor to persevere.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:19 AM (lXk/B)

431 Is SMFH around? Waving flag...yoo hoo?

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:19 AM (yJ1e6)

432 That was a disaster.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division

Your house is a disaster, huh?
Need a guy who's the master with the plaster, huh?
https://youtu.be/eXiwYUCe_bY

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:19 AM (5YBu8)

433 Why is that? This and primes make me start trying to re-invent the Kabalah for Methodists.
Posted by: Kindltot
--------------

Recommended read: 'Prime Obsession', by John Derbyshire. Yes, that Derbyshire, who is actually a mathematician. A simpler, and more enjoyable read by him is 'Unknown Quantity', a entertaining read about the history of Algebra.
http://tinyurl.com/y9urulll

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:19 AM (OdK9v)

434 Today is/was National Tequila Day. So I'm wondering, is tomorrow National Bad Hangover Day?

Thanks for the ONT, CDR M.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 23, 2017 12:20 AM (6jaju)

435 >> Is SMFH around?

See last night's ONT. And the fallout from it. She won't be around any more, unfortunately.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 23, 2017 12:21 AM (8O3HH)

436 SMFH was banned on last night's ONT. L'Elle was banned this am. SMFH should be unbanned. It was like watching a train wreck.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:21 AM (gDoff)

437 TPB... the pirate bay?

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:21 AM (aT+Bx)

438 395 For you Sudoku fans. Did you know that any arrangement of the numerals 123456789 is divisible (without remainder) by 9 ?
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:03 AM (OdK9v)


Did not realize this. But I am a savant at sudoku. It's scary.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 23, 2017 12:21 AM (TdMsT)

439 So I'm wondering, is tomorrow National Bad Hangover Day?
Posted by: GnuBreed

Everyday is National Bad Hangover Day
Hic

Posted by: Hillary! who will never be President of the United States at July 23, 2017 12:22 AM (5YBu8)

440 Is SMFH around? Waving flag...yoo hoo?
Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:19 AM (yJ1e6)

Last I know, there's been an embannening.

I know little, except... yeah something happened.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:22 AM (lXk/B)

441 Heh, I picked up a penny in the parking lot after work the other day. I mumbled, ah, a good luck penny. The young'n walking near me looked at me like I had two heads.


Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 11:21 PM (gDoff)

I always pick up pennies.

I figured out that the amount of time I take to pick it up is equal to making 12 bucks an hour after taxes.

So if you're willing to work for $12 an hour (which I would if I had to) you should be willing to pick up a penny.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 12:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

442 That's a full half-day of measuring, marking, tweaking and measuring again and again.



First tile didn't go down till I was absolutely certain that the last tile would go in perfectly



Doing things WITH math, makes one better AT math. Every damn time.







Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX





Posted by: Jim at July 22, 2017 11:56 PM (v5iqM)



^^^This^^^ is soooo hawt.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:23 AM (Id9+8)

443 A fun collection of proofs of the Pythagorean Theorem:

http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/index.shtml

Posted by: Emmie, math instructor at July 23, 2017 12:24 AM (ZapPq)

444 SMFH should be unbanned.

^^^THIS^^^

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 23, 2017 12:24 AM (IcT7t)

445 I'm not in a condition to go back through old threads, what happened to SMFH and L'Elle?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:24 AM (5YBu8)

446 So if you're willing to work for $12 an hour (which I would if I had to) you should be willing to pick up a penny.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 12:23 AM (Jcg9Q)

Okay, that's just funny. Math related too!

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:24 AM (gDoff)

447 SMFH was banned last night after being baited into a nasty argument.


Frankly, I think she was controlled in her responses. Way more than I would have been if someone passive-aggressively said the things to me that were said to her.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:24 AM (/o9Qk)

448 Now you've made me want to figure out if I still have Tor installed, and then try to go to that site.

Which I probably shouldn't do.

Damn!

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:11 AM (aT+Bx)

++++

Heh. TOR's outside appearance is just a modified Firefox browser. I'm guessing you would know if you installed it. The website I referred to, TPB, is just their acronym. You can usually visit them with any regular browser at their web address. Just google The Pirate Bay.

Or, if you want to, install TOR, then google TPB's onion address. But, you will likely be disappointed, since that just takes you to the same place.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 23, 2017 12:25 AM (FUu/Z)

449 Suppose it takes 3 seconds to pick up a penny. 60 seconds in a minute, 20 pennies picked up in a minute. 20 pennies picked up each minute, means 1200 pennies picked up in an hour. 1200 pennies is 12 dollars.

Picking up a penny is like being paid $12.00 an hour.

Picking up a nickle is like being paid $60.00 an hour.

Picking up a dime is like being paid $120.00 an hour.

Posted by: my back hurts from picking up all these fucking coins. at July 23, 2017 12:26 AM (XoldI)

450 Has anyone yet said, "I was told there would be no math"?

Posted by: Emmie at July 23, 2017 12:26 AM (ZapPq)

451 ISS in Google Street view.
https://tinyurl.com/y9v2em4d

And a youtube video about how they did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBTP62jd4DA&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: goon at July 23, 2017 12:26 AM (EaQ6/)

452 Last nights ont was typical drama queen passive aggressive shit that's gone on for months with cover from the white knights

Posted by: NCKate at July 23, 2017 12:27 AM (2R5JV)

453 I just got a pellet grill. Fired it up today and liked how it works so far. Point being if you have one Walmart has a great deal on pellets. $18.00 for 40 pounds.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/yb9ourj7

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 12:27 AM (wTi/q)

454 I do hope SMFH will be unbanned.

Posted by: Emmie at July 23, 2017 12:28 AM (ZapPq)

455
Recommended read: 'Prime Obsession', by John Derbyshire. Yes, that Derbyshire, who is actually a mathematician. A simpler, and more enjoyable read by him is 'Unknown Quantity', a entertaining read about the history of Algebra.
http://tinyurl.com/y9urulll
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:19 AM


That proves that algebra is racist.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 23, 2017 12:28 AM (IqV8l)

456 Fucking math.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:28 AM (lXk/B)

457 SMFH was banned on last night's ONT. L'Elle was banned this am. SMFH should be unbanned. It was like watching a train wreck.


Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:21 AM (gDoff)


yeah, I'm also seriously not amused at that turn of events.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:28 AM (aMlLZ)

458 Last nights ont was typical drama queen passive aggressive shit that's gone on for months with cover from the white knights
Posted by: NCKate

So I didn't miss anything by reading a chapter from a Stalin biography and going to bed at 9:30 then?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:30 AM (5YBu8)

459 Fucking math.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:28 AM (lXk/B)


Right?

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:30 AM (aMlLZ)

460 *puts signature on Un-Ban SMFH petition*

(is this the point in the action where the 'ettes burn their bras?).....*asking for a friend, should go without saying...*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (v5iqM)

461
Heh. TOR's outside appearance is just a modified Firefox browser. I'm guessing you would know if you installed it. The website I referred to, TPB, is just their acronym. You can usually visit them with any regular browser at their web address. Just google The Pirate Bay.

Or, if you want to, install TOR, then google TPB's onion address. But, you will likely be disappointed, since that just takes you to the same place.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 23, 2017 12:25 AM
---

So, I did have Tor, updated it and now.. I'm on some strange site that lists dark web sites and what they do.

Now I know where to buy credit card information in PINs and drugs in Russia.

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (aT+Bx)

462 SMFH was banned on last night's ONT. L'Elle was banned this am. SMFH should be unbanned. It was like watching a train wreck.
Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:21

WTF? How did this train wreck happen? Missed that, where did it start on the ONT?

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (yJ1e6)

463 Did not realize this. But I am a savant at sudoku. It's scary.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian
-----------

Well, to be fair, it has no relevance at all to Sudoku, neither do numbers. They're just symbols. The puzzles could just as easily use nine different pieces of fruit for symbols.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (OdK9v)

464 X-ray. Do they use the same pellets as a pellet stove for heating. That seems pricey for the pellets.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (gDoff)

465 Unfortunate Product Names

Saw a Squirrel Food called "Nut Munch".

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (qQq11)

466 392,
"How wide are the joists/rafters? do you want the length of the outsides, insides, or centers?"

And what about eaves?

But I'm going to assume they just wanted the basic length of the hypotenuse of triangle with 2, 15 foot sides and a 90 degree angle between them. Square root of 2, times 15 feet equals 21 feet and a hair over 2 1/2 inches, as Duncanthrax in 261 above.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:32 AM (d3wbb)

467 Lud, same shit different day. But again, same shit

Posted by: NCKate at July 23, 2017 12:32 AM (2R5JV)

468 Bras? There are 'ettes wearing bras?

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:33 AM (/o9Qk)

469 OK, now I know where to buy a black hat hacker.

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:33 AM (aT+Bx)

470 Unfortunate Product Names

Saw a Squirrel Food called "Nut Munch".
Posted by: garrett

Think I got in trouble in elementary school for calling a kid that.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:33 AM (5YBu8)

471 457: I saw the end of that but had no idea what set them off. Aren't they both good morons?

Posted by: LASue at July 23, 2017 12:34 AM (Mjus2)

472 That proves that algebra is racist.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
----------

Clearly the province of white supremacists.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:34 AM (OdK9v)

473 Infidel at July




Hey, were you asking for GNAMM info this morning? send me an email.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 12:34 AM (0wem/)

474 Bras? There are 'ettes wearing bras?

Not for long.

Posted by: Perv with scissors and ninja skills at July 23, 2017 12:35 AM (IcT7t)

475 Saw a Squirrel Food called "Nut Munch".

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (qQq11)

There was a flooring company on Saw Mill River Road in Elmsford that had a small sign on the wall near their loading dock that said,

"Best Laid Anywhere."

Not sure why I thought of that.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 12:35 AM (wYseH)

476 426 You know the old "measure twice, cut once?

I once measured a 2x4 1' short in shop class. 8th grade. Earned me the scorn of my classmates and my shop teacher, who looked like the old fatguy ijn Porky's, only less forgiving.

I guess I did learn something. I measure five or ten times, then pause, then go for it, and sigh in relief if it fits.

MEASURE AS OFTEN AS NEEDED, THEN FUCKING CUT!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:09 AM (lXk/B)


When I was doing kitchens and baths I had to install a kitchen for a friend of my father. I show up and everything is off by a mile. My father was a kick ass kitchen designer, he was the ice man, never made mistakes in measuring or design..like ever. So my father calls his friend and asks him how the hell he measured the damn kitchen and starts getting all forensic like. After some back and forth they figure out his friend used a folding ruler and left one of the sections folded. Talk about face palm. That was a disaster.


---
Ha. Try laying out a bolt pattern for the base plates of a bridge span or a highrise building. Check it with calibrated steel tape, at measured tension and temperature. Check it with measurements from off alignment control stations. Check it with measurements between layout points.

Still, I sweat until those beams are in place.

Posted by: Old Surveyor at July 23, 2017 12:36 AM (+wjl1)

477 should anyone be thinking of going to GNAMM send me an email so we can get you details and siphon off you valuable insights and knowledge into the collective.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 12:36 AM (0wem/)

478 463 Did not realize this. But I am a savant at sudoku. It's scary.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian
-----------

Well, to be fair, it has no relevance at all to Sudoku, neither do numbers. They're just symbols. The puzzles could just as easily use nine different pieces of fruit for symbols.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (OdK9v)



They stuck some basic ones in the last Mass Effect game using symbols instead of numbers. And they went with the random configuration rather than the standard 3X3 sections.

Probably can find the examples on youtube by searching Mass Effect Andromeda Remdoku.

Posted by: buzzion at July 23, 2017 12:36 AM (cAnNx)

479 >>I saw the end of that but had no idea what set them off.


Both are prone to that stuff. It gets old.

They wouldn't let it go (either of them) and now they can sit in the corner.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:36 AM (qQq11)

480 216, I pick penny's up for the luck.

Posted by: Lopeover at July 23, 2017 12:36 AM (WK4zj)

481
"Best Laid Anywhere."

Not sure why I thought of that.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
-----------

Local BBQ joint had a sign "Our Butts Are Smokin' Hot"

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:37 AM (OdK9v)

482 Want fake documents? Information on bitcoin? Hacked credit cards?

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:37 AM (aT+Bx)

483 X-Ray - which brand of pellet grill? Is it a smoker too?

Prince Ludwig - which Stalin bio? Kershaw?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:37 AM (iynDC)

484 SMFH was banned on last night's ONT. L'Elle was banned this am. SMFH should be unbanned. It was like watching a train wreck.
Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:21

WTF? How did this train wreck happen? Missed that, where did it start on the ONT?
Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (yJ1e6)

I don't know. I saw the tail-end of it this morning on one of the early threads.

*rubs face*

*sighs*

Jeebus...

I need real friends...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:37 AM (lXk/B)

485 penny's up for the luck.
Posted by: Lopeover at July



well that too. why waste that either?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 12:37 AM (0wem/)

486 Unfortunate Product Names

Saw a Squirrel Food called "Nut Munch".

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (qQq11)

Did you ever hear of that lube for the guitar nut?

I was at a guitar show and a friend comes up and says "hey the dude at that table has nut sauce"

I said great, will you be putting that in your tool box next to the ass grease?

Nut sauce, don't know wtf that dude was thinking when he named that.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (aMlLZ)

487
X-ray. Do they use the same pellets as a pellet stove for heating. That seems pricey for the pellets.


Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (gDoff)
I don't think so. These are some mix of woods like Hickory, Apple Mesquite...And generaly these type of pellets for cooking are $29 for 40 pounds vs the $5 per 40 pounds for heating pellets.

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (wTi/q)

488 Not for long.

Posted by: Perv with scissors and ninja skills at July 23, 2017 12:35 AM (IcT7t)


Good luck finding an 'ette currently wearing one...

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (/o9Qk)

489 SMFH was banned on last night's ONT. L'Elle was banned this am. SMFH should be unbanned. It was like watching a train wreck.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:21

WTF? How did this train wreck happen? Missed that, where did it start on the ONT?

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (yJ1e6)


At some point someone wrote something that someone else took umbrage over and things spiraled out from there...

Posted by: The Falconer's Hat at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (vBeA5)

490 Local BBQ joint had a sign "Our Butts Are Smokin' Hot"
Posted by: Mike Hammer
----------

BTW, Barky ordered food from that location, and now it has been demolished.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (OdK9v)

491 >>There was a flooring company on Saw Mill River Road in Elmsford


Been there.

We used to get our oak flooring there.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (qQq11)

492 Oh, yeah. Nut Sauce has been around forever.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM (qQq11)

493 If someone calls me an "ArmyWidow" and "black and blue" and "broken" my ass will beat them into next week. Especially if they then play innocent and claim that it wasn't meant to injure, it was just how they saw me.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM (/o9Qk)

494 Pick up a quarter and you're a 1%er.

Posted by: davidt at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM (XoldI)

495 It was a Type A personality (NTTAWWT) clash.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 12:40 AM (OdK9v)

496 And are you a savant at the regular Sudoku or the various versions. Android had a better Sudoku game than what I have found on Apple, that had a better selection of options such as including random shaped 9 number areas rather than 3x3 and also cross or diagonal sections you also had to properly fill in.

Posted by: buzzion at July 23, 2017 12:40 AM (cAnNx)

497 Counterfit Euros! Get your counterfit Euros on teh dark web!

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:41 AM (aT+Bx)

498 Suppose it takes 3 seconds to pick up a penny. 60 seconds in a minute, 20 pennies picked up in a minute. 20 pennies picked up each minute, means 1200 pennies picked up in an hour. 1200 pennies is 12 dollars.

Picking up a penny is like being paid $12.00 an hour.

Picking up a nickle is like being paid $60.00 an hour.

Picking up a dime is like being paid $120.00 an hour.


Posted by: my back hurts from picking up all these fucking coins. at July 23, 2017 12:26 AM (XoldI)

Bingo, thank you.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 12:41 AM (Jcg9Q)

499 433,
"Recommended read: 'Prime Obsession', by John Derbyshire."

Who is, to me, quite the gentleman.

He once wrote something, back in the early-oughts, and I had something related that I thought he should read but it wasn't online at that time. Asked him if he would like a copy and send me an address where could mail it. He did, I did, and then he sent me a wonderful thank you for my sending him the piece. That makes him a gentleman to me. I also second the above book.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:42 AM (d3wbb)

500
*puts signature on Un-Ban SMFH petition*



(is this the point in the action where the 'ettes burn their bras?).....*asking for a friend, should go without saying...*






Posted by: Jim at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (v5iqM)

Bras cost money. I've removed mine to stand in solidarity with SMFH.
Not that it helps, but as we learned in Animal House, "I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h4DZeBleLs

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:42 AM (Id9+8)

501 DangerGirl, yep.

Y5. Sent.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:42 AM (gDoff)

502 Is there a place for me to pick up nickels? Because at this point I'd rather do that then work where I do.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:42 AM (/o9Qk)

503 Prince Ludwig - which Stalin bio? Kershaw?

Posted by: rhomboid

The one by Edvard Radzinsky.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (5YBu8)

504 I forgot to add, we're looking for the length of the hypotenuse, not the height (adjacent). We have opposite length (15) and top angle (22.5), so 15/sin(22.5)= 15/.383=39.2.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:17 AM


As I understood the problem, the adjacent is 1/2 the width of the building, which equals 15. Rereading it, you are probably correct to use 22.5, instead of 45 as the included angle. The height would then be tan(67.5)*15 instead of 15' and hypotenuse as you say.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (DMUuz)

505 Oh, yeah. Nut Sauce has been around forever.



Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM (qQq11)


Yeah it was back around 2000-2001, I never heard of it before that.

Jacksons don't need that shit. Uncle Floyd took care of that. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (aMlLZ)

506 See, Miley knows what is what.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (/o9Qk)

507 436 SMFH was banned on last night's ONT. L'Elle was banned this am. SMFH should be unbanned. It was like watching a train wreck.
Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 12:21 AM (gDoff)


Holy cow. I liked them both. Then again, I like almost everybody.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (nvMvs)

508 >>Picking up a penny is like being paid $12.00 an hour.

>Picking up a nickle is like being paid $60.00 an hour.

>Picking up a dime is like being paid $120.00 an hour.


Guarantee me 40 hrs a week at those rates and we can talk.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:44 AM (qQq11)

509

Look at the constructions of the various trigonometric functions on the unit circle. For example, the tangent can be seen as the length of a tangent line to the circle. The secant is, you guessed, it a certain secant line.

There's also some others, such as "versin", and exsecant, which have co- functions as well. Also "ha-" functions like haversin.

These can all be seen as various line segments on the unit circle related to constructions at an angle theta drawn on that circle.

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 23, 2017 12:44 AM (8O3HH)

510 At some point someone wrote something that someone else took umbrage over and things spiraled out from there...

Posted by: The Falconer's Hat at July 23, 2017 12:38 AM (vBeA5)

So a day ending in y then?

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 12:44 AM (Jcg9Q)

511 Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM (/o9Qk)

But it is over, and perhaps we should all move on....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 12:45 AM (wYseH)

512 Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:03 AM (DMUuz)

I remember Pythagorean theorem but how did you arrive at the height of the right triangle being 15 feet? The only measurement provided is the base of that triangle being 15 feet.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:45 AM (0mRoj)

513 *notes Miley's absolute mastery of the arts of highe Moronthamatics.*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 23, 2017 12:46 AM (v5iqM)

514 This Math.

It has to stop.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:46 AM (qQq11)

515 Try laying out a bolt pattern for the base plates of a bridge span or a highrise building. Check it with calibrated steel tape, at measured tension and temperature. Check it with measurements from off alignment control stations. Check it with measurements between layout points.

Still, I sweat until those beams are in place.
Posted by: Old Surveyor
------------

Heh. I have a set of stainless 1' shrink rules from Lockheed. Each is stamped with the temperature at which it is accurate.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 12:47 AM (OdK9v)

516 you know, as I was at the driving range earlier, taking a minute between knocking the hell out of golf balls, I watched the guy driving the tractor picking up the golf balls. It occurred to me that were it not for the industrial revolution there would be dozens of illegal immigrants scurrying about on the range picking up balls while I was trying to hit them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 12:47 AM (0wem/)

517 This Math.

It has to stop.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:46 AM (qQq11)


yeah I'm ready to bite out the ceiling. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:47 AM (aMlLZ)

518 Holy cow. I liked them both. Then again, I like almost everybody.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (nvMvs)

We haven't met yet.

/s

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 12:47 AM (Jcg9Q)

519 493 If someone calls me an "ArmyWidow" and "black and blue" and "broken" my ass will beat them into next week.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM


Considering the damage a mere jawbone of an ass can do, I'd hate to see what a full-on critter could do. I will never call you one of those, much less all.

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:48 AM (DMUuz)

520 It is way too late for math.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:48 AM (/o9Qk)

521 It occurred to me that were it not for the industrial revolution there would be dozens of illegal immigrants scurrying about on the range picking up balls while I was trying to hit them.
Posted by: yankeefifth

Is that an argument in favor of or opposed to mechanization?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:48 AM (5YBu8)

522
X-Ray - which brand of pellet grill? Is it a smoker too?///

I bought a Pit Boss. Cheaper than the Traeger and seemed to me to do the same thing. It has a smoker setting but watching it cook today at 300 degrees for some test Bratwurst every time the auger feeds new pellets to the fire you get a burst of smoke. Doing ribs Sunday so I will be testing the smoke function.

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 12:48 AM (wTi/q)

523 Seriously.

Next they'll be trading favorite Robert Bly Poems or some shit.

Posted by: garrett at July 23, 2017 12:48 AM (qQq11)

524 Well here's something gruesome but compelling. A farm has a rat infestation. Here they turn over the earth with pitchforks while a dozen ecstatic terriers wait for the pests to run out.

https://youtu.be/o1mlIAnxTws

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 23, 2017 12:49 AM (rnAwa)

525 that is a conundrum isn't it?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 12:49 AM (0wem/)

526 Next they'll be trading favorite Robert Bly Poems or some shit.


I only read Muldoon.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 23, 2017 12:49 AM (IcT7t)

527 One 90 degree angle, one 45 degree angle are given. 3rd angle has to be 45 degrees too so the to sides are also equal at 15 ft each.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:50 AM (d3wbb)

528 Prince Ludwig: spasibo

Added to my library "for later" list.

BTW, there's a recent (2015) bio by a Russian (Khlevniuk ..... so, technically, by a Ukrainian, I guess).

Of no serious importance, but fun, I actually visited Stalin's birthplace, toured his museum, and sat in his chair aboard his WWII command rail car (also roamed and poked around his dacha down in Borzhomi, southern Georgia - but I don't think he spent much time there).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:50 AM (iynDC)

529 Ok, I've been on the Dark Web.

Pretty sure los federales are on the way.

Not sure if that will happen before or after all my computer info is stolen by hackers.

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:51 AM (aT+Bx)

530 527 One 90 degree angle, one 45 degree angle are given. 3rd angle has to be 45 degrees too so the to sides are also equal at 15 ft each.
Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:50 AM (d3wbb)

But the joists meet at a 45 degree angle, so the angle at the top of the right triangle is 22.5 degrees is it not?

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:51 AM (0mRoj)

531 As I understood the problem, the adjacent is 1/2 the width of the building, which equals 15. Rereading it, you are probably correct to use 22.5, instead of 45 as the included angle. The height would then be tan(67.5)*15 instead of 15' and hypotenuse as you say.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (DMUuz)


Cosine, not tangent. Tangent gives you the height of the peak.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:52 AM (17QyB)

532
Is that an argument in favor of or opposed to mechanization?
--

Yes?

Posted by: shibumi at July 23, 2017 12:52 AM (aT+Bx)

533 Hey, watch it with that pitchfork!

Posted by: Terrier at July 23, 2017 12:53 AM (XoldI)

534 Try laying out a bolt pattern for the base plates of a bridge span or a highrise building. Check it with calibrated steel tape, at measured tension and temperature. Check it with measurements from off alignment control stations. Check it with measurements between layout points.

Still, I sweat until those beams are in place.
Posted by: Old Surveyor
------------

Every time I see steelworkers using taper pins and sledge hammers to align fastener holes, I think about the shear loads that the fasteners are experiencing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 12:53 AM (OdK9v)

535 But the joists meet at a 45 degree angle, so the angle at the top of the right triangle is 22.5 degrees is it not?
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:51 AM (0mRoj)


Yes, and you have to use sine or cosine to figure out the length of the rafters. Ends up about 39.2 feet long.

It's a ridiculously pitched roof, but here we are.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:53 AM (17QyB)

536 Take 3/4 of pi squared times the radius of the circumference of the cylinder then divide that by the area of the parallelogram and add the length of the short edge of the rhombus.


Easy peasy.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:54 AM (/o9Qk)

537
I need real friends...
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at July 23, 2017 12:37

You got some here. Shoot me an email any time.

Be well.

T

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (yJ1e6)

538 See, Miley knows what is what.


Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (/o9Qk)

I do. Oh yes.

What?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (Id9+8)

539 Early alarm, so it's off to the snoozer with me, now.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (v5iqM)

540 Yes you are right Insomniac. And so I'm wrong twice tonight and that means I'm too tired to think straight. I should have drawn it out on paper.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (d3wbb)

541 Old Surveyor - cool. Love this kind of stuff. Please comment more.

X-Ray - thanks. A guy I only see at an in-law's annual events, who's a smoking nut (he actually smokes stuff for caterers now, as a side fun business) was urging me a few months ago to look into Green Mountain's Davy Crockett grill/smoker.

Quite a few items on the list above that (including figuring out why the hell the handguard on my 1943 Quality Hardware M1 carbine keeps popping off after about 30 rounds) - so nothing's happening soon, and taking notes/gathering anecdotal data.

But dang a good smoker would open up a lot of new horizons for cooking.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (iynDC)

542 Home. Where the kitties are.

Home is a good place to be. Even when the fans are just pushing hot air around.

My preferred location to imbibe.

Everything still progressing peaceably tonight?

Good. Good.

Read comments in the 200s earlier. Guess I'll pick up at 500. You'll tell me if I missed anything on the rest, right?

Posted by: mindful webworker - they said there'd be no mass on this blog at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (784ZQ)

543 538 See, Miley knows what is what.


Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:43 AM (/o9Qk)

I do. Oh yes.

What?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (Id9+

What is it you know? And why didnt you tell us before?

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:56 AM (0mRoj)

544 ping

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 23, 2017 12:56 AM (pJeub)

545 540 Yes you are right Insomniac. And so I'm wrong twice tonight and that means I'm too tired to think straight. I should have drawn it out on paper.
Posted by: geoffb5 at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (d3wbb)

I know jack shit about trigonometry, but I can still divide numbers dammit!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:56 AM (0mRoj)

546 544 ping
Posted by: redc1c4 at July 23, 2017 12:56 AM (pJeub)

pong

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:57 AM (0mRoj)

547 The old hand carpenters worked this stuff out by experienced use of steel squares. It's a powerful tool in the hands of a knowledgeable guy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 12:57 AM (OdK9v)

548 All you people who can correctly deal in tangents and cosines at this time of day on this day of the week on the ONT - report to the kitchen for more alcohol.

(hold on, about to do so myself)

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 12:57 AM (iynDC)

549 You want a high pitched roof if it's heavy snow country.

Do the weight/stress/support calcatations now

Posted by: davidt at July 23, 2017 12:57 AM (XoldI)

550 What is it you know? And why didn't you tell us before?

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:56 AM (0mRoj)

A girl needs to keep a little mystery.
I just donated an apostrophe to you. I keep a little bowl of spares, here by the cash register.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:58 AM (Id9+8)

551 A girl needs to keep a little mystery.
I just donated an apostrophe to you. I keep a little bowl of spares, here by the cash register.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:58 AM (Id9+

Heh. Take an apostrophe, leave an apostrophe.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (0mRoj)

552 I remember Pythagorean theorem but how did you arrive at the height of the right triangle being 15 feet? The only measurement provided is the base of that triangle being 15 feet.
Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:45 AM

Thinking back, I assumed since we were talking algebra, that the 45 degree spec was an included angle, which made for an easy to solve right triangle. If the top angle is 45 total, then the included angle is 22.5, the bottom angle 67.5, and trig is the easy way to get the height using the tangent. Then you could solve using the Pythagorean theorem, but you might as well use the secant function.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (DMUuz)

553 A data scientist gets paid $110k a year. So what does Dr. 'Gotta Fudge' Mann get paid as a Data Seancist?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (e1mEI)

554 The old hand carpenters worked this stuff out by experienced use of steel squares. It's a powerful tool in the hands of a knowledgeable guy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 12:57 AM (OdK9v)

I used to be good with those. Haven't used one in years for what they are intented. These days I use them to draw nice 90 degree lines. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (aMlLZ)

555 I just donated an apostrophe to you. I keep a little bowl of spares, here by the cash register.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess

I'll gladly pay Tuesday for an umlaut today.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (5YBu8)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (DMUuz)

557 Heh. Take an apostrophe, leave an apostrophe.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (0mRoj)

It all balances out in the end.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 01:00 AM (Id9+8)

558 I do. Oh yes.

What?


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:55 AM (Id9+


You know what is what when it comes to bras.
As in
Bras cost money. I've removed mine to stand in solidarity with SMFH.


Always conserve the integrity of the bra. Therefore, when at home it is entirely appropriate to remove said bra so as to keep it in good shape as long as possible. And for comfort. And in solidarity. But mostly for comfort.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:00 AM (/o9Qk)

559 You want a high pitched roof if it's heavy snow country.

Do the weight/stress/support calcatations now


Posted by: davidt at July 23, 2017 12:57 AM (XoldI)


Speaking of which, I need a new roof. Wonder if metal is cost effective? I live in CO, but not heavy snow area.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 01:00 AM (gDoff)

560 A girl needs to keep a little mystery.
I just donated an apostrophe to you. I keep a little bowl of spares, here by the cash register.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 12:58 AM (Id9+


I got a dump truck of them, along with other little grammatical thingies I never use. They build up. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 01:01 AM (aMlLZ)

561 Data Seancist - good one, Agnew.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:01 AM (iynDC)

562 I'll gladly pay Tuesday for an umlaut today.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (5YBu

Alas, with my cardboard membership status, I cannot offer even a lowly ampersand.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 01:02 AM (Id9+8)

563 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Take one, I'm feeling generous.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 01:03 AM (0mRoj)

564 I am on S01 episode 4 of Dark Matter and really struggling to get into it. I'm going to stick with it for a few more, but if it doesn't grab me soon, I'm going to have to bail.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:03 AM (/o9Qk)

565 Thor Ragnarok

https://youtu.be/ue80QwXMRHg

Similar enough vibe to Guardians. Everybody here looks good. Karl Urban wields a pair of M16s.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 23, 2017 01:03 AM (rnAwa)

566 But mostly for comfort.


Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:00 AM (/o9Qk)

Bingo.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 01:03 AM (Id9+8)

567 @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July




Did not get your email.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:04 AM (0wem/)

568 Well, shit. Time to post again the excerpt from Tristram Shandy:
-----
————–Endless is the Search of Truth!
No sooner was my uncle Toby satisfied which road the
cannon-ball did not go, but he was insensibly led on, and
resolved in his mind to enquire and find out which road the ball
did go: For which purpose he was obliged to set off afresh with
old Maltus, and studied him devoutly.—He proceeded next
to Gallileo and Torricellius, wherein, by certain geometrical
rules, infallibly laid down, he found the precise path to be a
PARABOLA,—or else an HYPERBOLA,—and that the parameter,
or latus rectum, of the conic section of the said path,
was to the quantity and amplitude in a direct ratio, as the whole
line to the sine of double the angle of incidence, form’d by the
breech upon an horizontal plane;—and that the semiparameter,———–
stop! my dear uncle Toby,—stop!—go not
one foot further into this thorny and bewilder’d track,—intricate
are the steps! intricate are the mases of this labyrinth!
intricate are the troubles which the pursuit of this bewitching
phantom, KNOWLEDGE, will bring upon thee.—O my uncle!
fly - - fly - - fly from it as from a serpent.—Is it fit, good-natur’d
man! thou should’st sit up, with the wound upon thy groin,
whole nights baking thy blood with hectic watchings?—Alas!
’twill exasperate thy symptoms,—check thy perspirations,—
evaporate thy spirits,—waste thy animal strength,—dry up
thy radical moisture,—bring thee into a costive habit of body,
impair thy health,—and hasten all the infirmities of thy old
age.—O my uncle! my uncle Toby.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:04 AM (OdK9v)

569 Pretty sure los federales are on the way. Not sure if that will happen before or after all my computer info is stolen by hackers

I had a moment like that reading the DPRK news today. The claim was that Lard Boi could deliver a nuke to Los Angeles in ten years. I was thinking... the city will probably be half under a fault line by then, so, what's the point.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:04 AM (6FqZa)

570 I am on S01 episode 4 of Dark Matter and really struggling to get into it. I'm going to stick with it for a few more, but if it doesn't grab me soon, I'm going to have to bail.


Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:03 AM (/o9Qk)


Have to stick with it. It starts really slow. It does get better.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 01:05 AM (aMlLZ)

571 I got a dump truck of them, along with other little grammatical thingies I never use. They build up. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 01:01 AM (aMlLZ)

FFS, you're destroying the market value of those things!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 01:05 AM (Id9+8)

572 kudos to the ONT resident last Wednesday who mentioned CMP having WRA Garands...

we did the paperw*rk on Resident 3vil's latest this afternoon.

new wood, dark bore (will likely clean up) and a "2+" on muzzle and throat wear gauges. no obvious pitting on the receiver, or any where else we could see w/o disassembly.

all in all, a sweet piece.

and she found a Belgium Hi-Power that apparently needs a new home, so, along with the Hawk 12 gauge, an hour well spent at the toy store.

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 23, 2017 01:05 AM (pJeub)

573 DangerGirl, it does get a little better when Jayne I mean, Three gets some of his backstory revealed. But it's still not as good as Firefly.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:06 AM (6FqZa)

574 Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 12:59 AM (DMUuz)

I thought we weren't looking for the height, but for the length of the rafters, which are the hypotenuse of that triangle.

Of course now that you have the two angles, the Pythagorean theorem comes into play, but that's extra steps.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 01:06 AM (17QyB)

575 One 90 degree angle, one 45 degree angle are given. 3rd angle has to be 45 degrees too so the to sides are also equal at 15 ft each.
Posted by: geoffb5

Is it on an ellipsoid or a geoid? Angles planar or geodetic?

Posted by: Old Surveyor at July 23, 2017 01:06 AM (ZKlDy)

576 Of course now that you have the two angles, the Pythagorean theorem comes into play, but that's extra steps.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 01:06 AM (17QyB)

I mean two lengths (height and width).

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 01:08 AM (17QyB)

577 Did not get your email.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:04 AM (0wem/)


For the meetup? I, unfortunately, cannot go. Would love to though, but just don't have the time and I've scheduled all my vacation for the year.
If it is some other email I was supposed to send...

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:08 AM (/o9Qk)

578 Cosine, not tangent. Tangent gives you the height of the peak.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 12:52 AM


Yah, that's what I said. Then sec(67.5)*15 gives the length, which is 39.15 ft.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 01:09 AM (DMUuz)

579 Of course now that you have the two angles, the Pythagorean theorem comes into play, but that's extra steps.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 01:06 AM (17QyB)

This is where you get the "intuitive" understanding that the height also has to be 15' since it's a 45 degree angle.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 01:09 AM (Id9+8)

580 Nite all.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 23, 2017 01:09 AM (17QyB)

581 X-Ray - thanks. A guy I only see at an in-law's annual events, who's a
smoking nut (he actually smokes stuff for caterers now, as a side fun
business) was urging me a few months ago to look into Green Mountain's
Davy Crockett grill/smoker.///

I have a real smoker that I use maybe 3 times a year for family gatherings. I bought this pellet grill as a better option than my gas grill for daily meals. It's electric, load pellets turn the knob and have a wood cooking fire. Part of why I picked Pitt Boss was the openings above the flames for grilling (small area but plenty for a single dude) to really char a steak.

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 01:09 AM (wTi/q)

582 For the meetup? I, unfortunately, cannot go. Would love to though, but just don't have the time and I've scheduled all my vacation for the year.
If it is some other email I was supposed to send...
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July




my bad. misread infidel's email when I was scrolling through the thread.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:11 AM (0wem/)

583 Have to stick with it. It starts really slow. It does get better.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 01:05 AM (aMlLZ)


DangerGirl, it does get a little better when Jayne I
mean, Three gets some of his backstory revealed. But it's still not as
good as Firefly.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:06 AM (6FqZa)


OK, I'll stick with it some more. I have Firefly on the "to watch" list, but I'm a huge Farscape nerd, so my comparison is more to it than any other series.
I had a tough time getting into Breaking Bad and BCS too, but was glad I stuck with them. I'll stick with this one too for a bit. At least through S1.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:11 AM (/o9Qk)

584 my bad. misread infidel's email when I was scrolling through the thread.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:11 AM (0wem/)


Oh, so you aren't looking forward to my email then? *sulks*
/PA snark

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:12 AM (/o9Qk)

585 OK, we just finished watching "Hatchsaw Ridge" cause we got free HBO.

Decent movie not great IMO. What do others think about "Dunkirk"? Wife wants to see it in the theatre, is it worth it?

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 01:13 AM (yJ1e6)

586 X-Ray, thanks again. The Green Mountain grill/smoker was touted as being kind of a best of both, as it grilled at high temps if you wanted to do that. Will have to continue pondering my options.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:13 AM (iynDC)

587 G'night everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 23, 2017 01:15 AM (IcT7t)

588 Oh, so you aren't looking forward to my email then? *sulks*
/PA snark
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July




ok, send me an email!

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:15 AM (0wem/)

589 Just gooshed a fly on the tablet screen. (Well, dealt a fatal blow to, but, without literal gooshing.)

Fortunately, the touchscreen hasn't worked in months, so I don't have to worry about losing my place in the thread.

Wherever that was.

Posted by: mighty hunter mindful webworker at July 23, 2017 01:15 AM (784ZQ)

590 This is where you get the "intuitive" understanding that the height also has to be 15' since it's a 45 degree angle.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 23, 2017 01:09 AM


That's the mistake I made. Jeff, et. al., pointed out it's a 45 degree total angle, not a 90. Think A frame cabin. Really steep roof.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 23, 2017 01:16 AM (DMUuz)

591 G'nite Blanco!

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:17 AM (/o9Qk)

592 496 And are you a savant at the regular Sudoku or the various versions. Android had a better Sudoku game than what I have found on Apple, that had a better selection of options such as including random shaped 9 number areas rather than 3x3 and also cross or diagonal sections you also had to properly fill in.
Posted by: buzzion at July 23, 2017 12:40 AM (cAnNx)




Just regular sudoku. I play web sudoku (not the app). I usually finish a hard in 4 to 6 minutes.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 23, 2017 01:17 AM (TdMsT)

593 We found a house in Delaware that is a geodesic dome. If we were ready to move today, we would snap it up in a minute. It is pretty freaking cool.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:17 AM (/o9Qk)

594 red, it *might* have been I who mentioned the CMP WRAs.

The official AOSHQ gun deal announcer is Grump, who doesn't do the ONT. He reliably tells me about all the C ampersand R and other deals I can't afford/don't have time for/can't get in the People's Republic of CA.

BHPs interest me. Of course they're renowned as great, smooth 9mikemike shooters. But I know zip about them, there are a fair number of twists and turns (Belgian vs. others, Mk number, year of production, etc.), and none of them are being given away, to put it mildly.

Probably one of those things I'll get to about the time I get to a Henry lever rifle in 45LC or .357.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:18 AM (iynDC)

595 Dunkirk is worth seeing in the theater. In particular, the dogfights and flying scenes are worth seeing on the big screen.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:18 AM (H5knJ)

596 I ended up watching the entire rat killing video. Pretty much the extent of my excitement on a Saturday night.

And with that, I'm off to bed. Nite all.

Posted by: Country Boy at July 23, 2017 01:21 AM (Jcg9Q)

597 Posted by: redc1c4 at July 23, 2017 01:05 AM (pJeub)

Oooh...a Belgian Hi Power?

That was my grandfather's service piece when he was a cop in Palestine.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 01:21 AM (wYseH)

598 redc1c4 - If you are not a member of the Garand Collector's Association, I recommend it. They produce a great quarterly publication.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:21 AM (OdK9v)

599 Dunkirk is worth seeing in the theater. In particular, the dogfights and flying scenes are worth seeing on the big screen.
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:18

Thanks.

Posted by: Farmer at July 23, 2017 01:21 AM (yJ1e6)

600 OK Y5, I sent an email just because.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:22 AM (/o9Qk)

601 Nite CountryBoy!

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:23 AM (/o9Qk)

602 OK Y5, I sent an email just because.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July



well, yeah, just because you are a fantastic Moron! Thanks!

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:23 AM (0wem/)

603 That was my grandfather's service piece when he was a cop in Palestine.


A Jew in Palestine? The horror.


/s

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 01:23 AM (gDoff)

604 well, yeah, just because you are a fantastic Moron! Thanks!

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:23 AM (0wem/)


*curtsies*
I do what I can.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:24 AM (/o9Qk)

605 463 Did not realize this. But I am a savant at sudoku. It's scary.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian
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Well, to be fair, it has no relevance at all to Sudoku, neither do numbers. They're just symbols. The puzzles could just as easily use nine different pieces of fruit for symbols.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 23, 2017 12:31 AM (OdK9v)


Using numbers clearly is much easier because counting techniques can be employed.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at July 23, 2017 01:24 AM (TdMsT)

606 A Jew in Palestine? The horror.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 01:23 AM (gDoff)

I know...disgusting.

He was a mounted cop, keeping the peace for the British. He used to go into Arab villages all of the time, and he told me he never turned his back on any of them...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 01:25 AM (wYseH)

607 A Jew in Palestine? The horror.///

Like someone with morals in politics?

Posted by: X-ray at July 23, 2017 01:26 AM (wTi/q)

608 CBD - interesting. Your grandpa a Brit?

Mike H. - I'm a CMP customer but not a GCA member, but the newsletter does interest me. I think the carbine collector's newsletter (now defunct) is available online (maybe at the CMP forums?).

Somewhere I saw that CMP lowered their price for the HXP 30-06. Sounds odd. CMP's duty is to maximize their revenue to support their programs - wonder if the PPU Garand-suitable ammo alternative has forced them to lower prices? Reload this now myself, so not in the market any longer (did pick up half a case of the PPU stuff as my reserve).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:26 AM (iynDC)

609 seems kind of slow in her tonight. someone lock up all the silverware?

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:26 AM (0wem/)

610 he told me he never turned his back on any of them...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July




well, that is why he was able to tell you the story.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:27 AM (0wem/)

611 OK, I'll stick with it some more. I have Firefly on the "to watch" list, but I'm a huge Farscape nerd, so my comparison is more to it than any other series.

I had a tough time getting into Breaking Bad and BCS too, but was glad I stuck with them. I'll stick with this one too for a bit. At least through S1.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:11 AM (/o9Qk)


Firefly is actually pretty good.

IIRC, Whedon somewhat handed it off to someone with a libertarian bent, and it shows in the resulting series.

Posted by: The Browncoat Hat at July 23, 2017 01:27 AM (vBeA5)

612 This is the latest I've been up in a long time.


I must have a fever.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:27 AM (/o9Qk)

613 Mike H. - I'm a CMP customer but not a GCA member, but the newsletter does interest me.
----------

Much more than a news letter. It's a slick, well produced publication. LOT's of info and articles, also, Classified section.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:28 AM (OdK9v)

614 He used to go into Arab villages all of the time, and he told me he never turned his back on any of them...

That's what mom told me about waves in the ocean. Never turn you back on them. Has always served me well. With many situations.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 01:28 AM (gDoff)

615 Your grandpa a Brit?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:26 AM (iynDC)

Oh, fvck no!

He was a Russian Jew who came as a young child, maybe 1908-1910. He became a cop because he loved to ride, spoke fluent Arabic, and could work alone.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 01:28 AM (wYseH)

616 huh. wonder if CBD's granddad and mine ever met.

Mine was in Hebron for a bit.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:29 AM (6FqZa)

617 This is the latest I've been up in a long time.


I must have a fever.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July



well, yeah and the only cure is more ont! and cowbell.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:29 AM (0wem/)

618 mine was a Brit. He was military-police. Also had a knack for languages (I did not inherit this).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:30 AM (6FqZa)

619 Mine was in Hebron for a bit.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:29 AM (6FqZa)

What was his last name (if you don't mind)?

I can ask my mom.

Everybody knew everybody then.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 01:31 AM (wYseH)

620 Reid.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:31 AM (6FqZa)

621 Watched a Big Bang clip tonight of when Leonard first applied to be Sheldon's roommate. Sheldon's "contract" stipulated Friday nights (at set time) for watching "Firefly." Leonard asks if that level of detail is necessary. Sheldon says, just want to get this out of the way, because the show will be on for years!

Dark Matter is okay. Don't know if they're going to give it another season, and they have done that switching-up main characters thing I hate, but, it's no Firefly, certainly no Farscape, but it's okay.

What was the other thought-sparking comment?...?...?

Posted by: mindful webworker - nok nok nok Penny? at July 23, 2017 01:32 AM (784ZQ)

622 Speaking of pistols, for those of you who missed it, here is my pick for irony from among the Photopaloosa that Anna Puma linked to last week:

http://tinyurl.com/ya4o7bgn

Luger? or P-38? I think P-38

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:33 AM (OdK9v)

623 Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:30 AM (6FqZa)

My grandfather was in the Palestinian Gendarmerie, whose formal name was, I think, the Palestine Police Force. Not military.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 01:34 AM (wYseH)

624 Sheldon's "contract" stipulated Friday nights (at set time) for watching "Firefly." Leonard asks if that level of detail is necessary. Sheldon says, just want to get this out of the way, because the show will be on for years!

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE FOX KEPT FUCKING WITH THE SHOW TIMES AND ORDER OF THE SHOW, FAILED TO SCREEN THE LAST THREE EPISODES AT ALL, AND THEN DUMPED THE SERIES

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 23, 2017 01:34 AM (6FqZa)

625 I think Dark Matter has slowly gotten less interesting over time (though still interesting), and Killjoys has gotten more interesting.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:34 AM (H5knJ)

626 3 moron meet ups to chose from. I have friends in ohio, could maybe incorporate a visit there. Then again, the vegas thing sounds like fun. maybe hit California after that and visit an old guitar player that moved out there. Got friends in texas too, and that might be around the time of the Arlington guitar show. Vegas is 3 days, that's really tempting.

I don't really gamble, maybe I'll get drunk, take in the sights, and rent some machine guns. lol

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 01:34 AM (aMlLZ)

627 Reid.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:31 AM (6FqZa)

I'll ask!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 23, 2017 01:34 AM (wYseH)

628
On the question of "Are traps gay?", Milo has ruled:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br-Gh4B7d8A

Ruling: Gay, gay, gay, gay!

Posted by: publius, the Persistent Poperin Pear at July 23, 2017 01:35 AM (8O3HH)

629 CBD, very cool. Russian immigrant. Speaking for myself, I envy his life and experiences. And I've been very lucky to have a bit more color than most. But I think there's something about the early 20th century - up to the late middle part - that produced just amazing story-lines and lives for certain people.

And blt, surprising to hear you're not a language guy. Your classical historical and religious knowledge is prodigious, and a real resource here.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:36 AM (iynDC)

630 I don't really gamble, maybe I'll get drunk, take in the sights, and rent some machine guns. lol
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July




send me an email

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:36 AM (0wem/)

631 I have Killjoys on the list of things to watch as well.


In other random news, my parents got a new puppy a couple of months ago, after being dogless for almost ten years. They are having an interesting time adjusting to having a pup. My father has become completely soft-hearted and lets the dog sleep in the bed with them at night, which is something he had never done in the past.


They're also suffering from lack of sleep as the pup gets them up early to go out. She's worth every minute though.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:36 AM (/o9Qk)

632 DangerGirl, that is so sweet.

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 01:38 AM (gDoff)

633 Oh, yeah: Geodesic domes.

My older brother built the first geodesic kit home in Oklahoma (almost fifty years ago). Well, he had smart men build it while he played with scraps of lumber.

One of my favorite horror stories:

The old family handyman who actually put the kit together (and carved out standard openings for windows, doors, and interior walls meet outside walls - a nightmare) was there when the guys arrived to give it a foam insulating inner coat. Handyman told my bro, don't pay them until that coat is as thick as the 2x4s. Handyman drove off over the hill and out of sight. Bro cut a check for the insulaters, drove off over the hill and out of sight. The insulaters, naturally, immediately packed up, drove off over the hill and out of sight.

Geodesics move and breathe and shift around, so naturally the poly external coating cracked and it leaked badly after just a few years.

All it needed (besides additional insulation) was a concrete overcoat and it would still have been habitable today. Nice space inside, really.

Posted by: mindful webworker - buk buk buk Fuller? at July 23, 2017 01:39 AM (784ZQ)

634 Dark Matter gets less interesting? IIRC its tomatometer has improved over time. I wonder if it's gotten more SJW.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:39 AM (6FqZa)

635 >>>and Killjoys has gotten more interesting.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:34 AM (H5knJ)<<<

Mmmm. Dutch.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at July 23, 2017 01:40 AM (jZgTE)

636 Mike H. - interesting about that pic. I know little about Lugers or P-38s, so have no opinion on that. But - definitely not an 1911 A1! Military police, looks like (band on helmet). But what? An MP taking German prisoners, with an Axis pistol? Where's his carbine? (I think MPs generally had carbines and 1911s) And that artillery piece - German?

The only knowledge I really have is Socratic - the realization that I barely know anything, even the things I'm most interested in.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:40 AM (iynDC)

637 609 seems kind of slow in her tonight. someone lock up all the silverware?
Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:26 AM (0wem/)


We could call each other names and see who gets banned first....

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at July 23, 2017 01:41 AM (nvMvs)

638 In other random news, my parents got a new puppy a couple of months ago, after being dogless for almost ten years. They are having an interesting time adjusting to having a pup. My father has become completely soft-hearted and lets the dog sleep in the bed with them at night, which is something he had never done in the past.


They're also suffering from lack of sleep as the pup gets them up early to go out. She's worth every minute though.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July




everyone should sleep with a puppy. my wife insisted we let the puppy sleep in our bed over my strenuous objections. best thing ever. dog snuggles up and sleeps next to me all night. does not toss and turn, kick the covers off and flail about the bed like someone else.

having an afternoon nap on the weekend with a dog is about the best way to spend a weekend.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:41 AM (0wem/)

639 The only knowledge I really have is Socratic - the realization that I barely know anything, even the things I'm most interested in.

Posted by: rhomboid at July



the only thing you know is that you do not know anything.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:42 AM (0wem/)

640 Here's the link to the geodesic dome house, just in case. Of course, it's probably not even a geodesic dome and I'm making a fool of myself. I still think it is cool, although my dream is to have a log cabin on 40 acres, which I can't afford.

(hopefully I won't break the blog, delete space after detail/)

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/ 13604-Collins-Pond-Rd-E_Georgetown_DE_19947_M67107-07127

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:42 AM (/o9Qk)

641
622 Speaking of pistols, for those of you who missed it, here is my pick for irony from among the Photopaloosa that Anna Puma linked to last week:

http://tinyurl.com/ya4o7bgn

Luger? or P-38? I think P-38



Luger.

The P38 frame has a front "strap" over the barrel, and the back of the frame is not "square", as the hammer spur is clearly visible. The pistol in the picture shows no "strap", no hammer spur, and the back of the frame looks square.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 23, 2017 01:42 AM (FlRtG)

642 Pepe was telling us this morning he may have found a better way to spend the weekend

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:42 AM (6FqZa)

643
They're also suffering from lack of sleep as the pup gets them up early to go out. She's worth every minute though.
Posted by: @DangerGirl


At least the pup wants to go outside instead of going on the bed!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 23, 2017 01:43 AM (IqV8l)

644 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE

Thanks, Ben. Nobody would get these things without you.

But we're willing to try, anyway.

Posted by: mindful webworker - funny because funny at July 23, 2017 01:43 AM (784ZQ)

645
having an afternoon nap on the weekend with a dog is about the best way to spend a weekend.
Posted by: yankeefifth
----------

S'truth. Little Sophia curls up next to my shoulder, and that's it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:44 AM (OdK9v)

646 So, we've got CBD checking to see if his grandfather might have known blt's grandfather, while policing in British Palestine. And just recently, JJ wanted to start an effort to see if his uncle KIA on Saipan knew NGU's professional forebear (Navy dentist), the Medal of Honor recipient Salomon.

For a history geek like me, this is far more exciting than, say, the NFL draft.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:44 AM (iynDC)

647 everyone should sleep with a puppy. my wife
insisted we let the puppy sleep in our bed over my strenuous objections.
best thing ever. dog snuggles up and sleeps next to me all night.
does not toss and turn, kick the covers off and flail about the bed like
someone else.



having an afternoon nap on the weekend with a dog is about the best way to spend a weekend.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:41 AM (0wem/)


I love sleeping with a pup. Ours are too big to fit in the bed with us (or maybe we just need to buy a bigger bed?)
Mom says that she doesn't mind the dog until the dog tries to crawl up in between them and pushes at them with her long, gangly legs. I think that while she's complaining, she loves it at the same time.
They'll be bringing the pup here over Christmas, and I can't wait to meet her.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:45 AM (/o9Qk)

648
The P38 frame has a front "strap" over the barrel, and the back of the frame is not "square", as the hammer spur is clearly visible. The pistol in the picture shows no "strap", no hammer spur, and the back of the frame looks square.
Posted by: Arbalest
-----------

So it is written, so let it be.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:46 AM (OdK9v)

649 For me the cast changes in Dark Matter and shuffling in and out of characters has detracted from the show's appeal. Plot-wise, it seemd to be treading water a bit (trying to avoid spoilers for those not current).

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:46 AM (H5knJ)

650 I'm just hoping my grandfather and Dildo's didn't trade gunfire at each other. As I said earlier, the Judaean Peoples' Front was an actual thing in those days. Only they called themselves the Irgun

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:47 AM (6FqZa)

651 Arbalest, bringing the German pistol fu. Well done.

Any guesses on why the H an American MP would be holding a Luger on some POWs?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 01:47 AM (iynDC)

652 DangerGirl, that looks like a half-dome on a wall (with extensions). Sort of like having a big, round roof on a circular house.

My bro's house was a full 3/4 dome. But, yeah, can't tell for sure, but that one looks geodesical. Ish.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I know nothing. No-thing! at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (784ZQ)

653 I love sleeping with a pup. Ours are too big to fit in the bed with us (or maybe we just need to buy a bigger bed?)
Mom says that she doesn't mind the dog until the dog tries to crawl up in between them and pushes at them with her long, gangly legs. I think that while she's complaining, she loves it at the same time.
They'll be bringing the pup here over Christmas, and I can't wait to meet her.
Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July




yeah, that is where ours likes to go too. sucks in the winter because she likes to spend half the night on top of the covers; eventually she gets cold and goes under the covers.

on the weekend she will drag me over to the couch so she can take a nap next to me. the only time she turns off and gets a decent sleep is when she is curled up next to me. otherwise she is always in guard dog mode.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (0wem/)

654 622 Speaking of pistols, for those of you who missed it, here is my pick for irony from among the Photopaloosa that Anna Puma linked to last week:

http://tinyurl.com/ya4o7bgn

Luger? or P-38? I think P-38
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:33 AM (OdK9v)

Appears to be a Luger as there is no hammer.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (0mRoj)

655 Speaking of pistols, for those of you who missed it, here is my pick for irony from among the Photopaloosa that Anna Puma linked to last week:

http://tinyurl.com/ya4o7bgn

Luger? or P-38? I think P-38
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:33 AM (OdK9v)


Hard to tell.

The rear of the gun doesn't clearly show a hammer like in the P-38, which would be more consistent with a Luger.

However, the area in front of the trigger does seem to be similar to a P-38, and it would be consistent with the time the photo was taken.



Posted by: The Parabellum at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (vBeA5)

656 I'm just hoping my grandfather and Dildo's didn't trade gunfire at each other. or sex toys.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:50 AM (0wem/)

657 DangerGirl, that looks like a half-dome on a wall (with extensions). Sort of like having a big, round roof on a circular house.



My bro's house was a full 3/4 dome. But, yeah, can't tell for sure, but that one looks geodesical. Ish.

Posted by: mindful webworker - I know nothing. No-thing! at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (784ZQ)


Yeah, I really don't know what it qualifies as. I just know it's different.

Anyway, on that note, it is bedtime. Have a great night, y'all.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 01:50 AM (/o9Qk)

658 For me the cast changes in Dark Matter and shuffling in and out of characters has detracted from the show's appeal. Plot-wise, it seemd to be treading water a bit (trying to avoid spoilers for those not current).

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:46 AM (H5knJ)


I just wish they would let the android go permanent on that human chip thing. That George Jetson look she got has to go.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 01:50 AM (aMlLZ)

659 begin was the best leader Israel ever had.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:50 AM (0wem/)

660 oh great, now yankeefifth is shipping them.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:51 AM (6FqZa)

661 oops, Begin

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:51 AM (0wem/)

662 I'll ask some people I know if they can identify.

I'll also inquire on Reddit.

Posted by: The Click-Bang Hat at July 23, 2017 01:52 AM (vBeA5)

663 on the weekend she will drag me over to the couch so she can take a nap next to me. the only time she turns off and gets a decent sleep is when she is curled up next to me. otherwise she is always in guard dog mode.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (0wem/)



I'd say she's still in guard dog mode. But curled up next to you she knows where you are and isn't keeping an eye on you because you're right there.

Posted by: buzzion at July 23, 2017 01:52 AM (cAnNx)

664

" ... why the H an American MP would be holding a Luger on some POWs?"


1. German pistols, SMGs, etc., were held in some regard by American troops, and for various reasons: among others, they were quite good until the end. Additionally, at the time this photo was taken, there was probably a lot of captured German ammo as well.

2. It was not uncommon practice in the US Army to hoard weapons. A Garand is good, and Garand AND an M3 (or other) SMG is better.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 23, 2017 01:52 AM (FlRtG)

665 I'd say she's still in guard dog mode. But curled up next to you she knows where you are and isn't keeping an eye on you because you're right there.
Posted by: buzzion at July




chuckle

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:53 AM (0wem/)

666 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.'"

Posted by: mindful webworker - dit that werk at July 23, 2017 01:53 AM (784ZQ)

667 "And lo, the terlit hobo will interrupt saying, yea, I know what Thou art about to say, I'll see myself out"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 01:55 AM (6FqZa)

668 Evening horde.

Love the rats & terriers vid. Always fun to watch dogs working.

Here's a measure once, cut twice story...

Was building speakers with my son. The sides have a large-radius curve cut in them (google "frugelhorn" if you're interested). Process was pretty simple; cut the sides to their basic shape, without the arc. Mark the points on the top and bottom of one side piece where the arc is to intersect, then establish a pivot point on the floor, a stick the length of the radius, then scribe the arc. Stack the four side pieces, adhering them with double-sided tape, then cut all four at once on the bandsaw. That's exactly what we did.

Went to test fit the pieces... the top piece was longer than the top of the side pieces. I had mis-marked the intersection point for the arc, off by about an inch. Much cursing ensues.

This was very expensive plywood, Baltic Birch, and we had to get it from a place about 30 mi. away. So off we go to buy a new sheet of plywood...

Long story short: We did the EXACT SAME THING. A torrent of curse words assaults the neighborhood through the open garage door. Son is near tears, storms upstairs. Average Wife shakes her head.

We'd already gone over budget. So I decided to just glue the cut-offs on to the side pieces. After they dried, I re-scribed the arc (easy this time since I knew where not to scribe), and re-cut the pieces. Fortunately the plan all along was to paint these, so the glue lines aren't visible. The speakers sound excellent.

Still don't know how I made the same mistake twice.

Posted by: Average Guy at July 23, 2017 01:55 AM (LMcFk)

669 On the android, I'm torn. She looks better with her hair down, but my interest here is entirely prurient.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 23, 2017 01:57 AM (H5knJ)

670 should lousagirl stop by someone tell her to have her husband send me an email, please.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:57 AM (0wem/)

671 night everyone

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 23, 2017 01:58 AM (0wem/)

672 'nite all,

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 01:59 AM (gDoff)

673 Luger? or P-38? I think P-38
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 01:33 AM (OdK9v)

Hard to tell.

The rear of the gun doesn't clearly show a hammer like in the P-38, which would be more consistent with a Luger.

However, the area in front of the trigger does seem to be similar to a P-38, and it would be consistent with the time the photo was taken.





Posted by: The Parabellum at July 23, 2017 01:48 AM (vBeA5)


The picture is weird. It almost don't look like either, because the luger has those circular things where you grab it to cock it, and they ride higher than the upper, unless the picture is that bad. The barrel looks like lugar length, because the p-38 barrel is a little shorter. I have both guns, so when I tip the lugar just right to get the right angle to obscure the cocking grip thingies it seems to be more of a match than the p-38. Damn though, the gun in that pic looks completely flat across the top of the upper, and neither is really like that. I would definitely say lugar between the 2, the barrel is lugar length.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 02:02 AM (aMlLZ)

674 Arbalest, interesting points about GIs using captured German hardware.

I'm well aware of the Soviets using captured German weapons, especially the MP-44. Have been watching lots of Russian WWII movies/serials lately for language practice, and in some cases half the Soviets are carrying German guns.

Also aware of the Germans' fondness for the M1 carbine - many photos of the carbine being carried by German soldiers.

But sort of surprised that GIs would have that much use for German guns. Considering how well supplied our guys were, by comparison. Always thought the Lugers, especially, were valued as souvenirs more than tools in the field.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 02:03 AM (iynDC)

675 Film Theory: Why The Star Trek Federation is Fascist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KBPaS-1PU

Posted by: To Boldly Go Where No Hat Has Gone Before at July 23, 2017 02:04 AM (vBeA5)

676 ☊_☊
 U 

Exits stage right

Posted by: mindful webworker was here at July 23, 2017 02:05 AM (784ZQ)

677 622 Speaking of pistols, for those of you who missed it, here is my pick for irony from among the Photopaloosa that Anna Puma linked to last week:

http://tinyurl.com/ya4o7bgn

Luger? or P-38? I think P-38
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


I think it's a P08 (Luger)

1. If a P38, I think from that angle you'd see the hammer and the back of the slide and hammer, which would have a curved appearance.

2. Barrel strikes me as too long for a P38

3. From that angle and lighting, I would not expect to see the toggle.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 23, 2017 02:06 AM (di1hb)

678 CMP is about to release 100000 1911's from the vaults all over
see FirearmBlog

Posted by: MAxIE at July 23, 2017 02:06 AM (9TR2V)

679 Danggit, Mike H. (probably now gone), you took me back to that Normandy photo collection and now I'm lost in it again, clicking through all the images.

And it seems we have a dispute on that pistol. Fortunately I know nothing about the models in question, so I can spectate.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 02:07 AM (iynDC)

680 But sort of surprised that GIs would have that much use for German guns. Considering how well supplied our guys were, by comparison. Always thought the Lugers, especially, were valued as souvenirs more than tools in the field.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 02:03 AM (iynDC)


Lugers have to be kept meticulously clean and only use high quality ammo or else you start getting jamming problems.

Not the best pistol for wartime use.

However, it is a very, very enjoyable gun to shoot. Very comfortable and very accurate.

Better than either the P-38 or the Luger, IMHO, is the "Broomhandle" Mauser, especially with the original chambering. A flawless weapon, IMHO.

Posted by: The Political Gun at July 23, 2017 02:08 AM (vBeA5)

681 Sup peoples

Posted by: thathalfrican - new faces tie like shoelaces at July 23, 2017 02:11 AM (IYHxL)

682 I don't want to start any trouble or reignite any smoldering resentments, but wasn't it L'Elle who was going on about how unwise it was to invite someone who had been banned to a meetup? And that she hoped there wouldn't be any in Las Vegas?

Karma, she is a cold-hearted bitch.

David

Posted by: David, Internet Deplorable at July 23, 2017 02:12 AM (5Rqpb)

683 Max, didn't see (in a quick check) anything at Firearm Blog about the CMP 1911s, but did see an article on "Homemade Nigerian Revolving Shotguns".

Now - THERE's an item I'll just skip, thank you very much. Yikes.

Thought it was going to be a while before the 1911s were for sale. Doubt I'll be interested, in any case (assuming they'll be pretty rough).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 02:16 AM (iynDC)

684 GI's prized Lugers. I have no reason to think that P-38's weren't grabbed also.

As to the GI in the pic using whatever it is, not so many GI's were issued 1911's, so using an acquired Bosch piece could easily be a matter of convenience.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 02:17 AM (OdK9v)

685 Out

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 23, 2017 02:18 AM (OdK9v)

686 Sorry, but I'm a long time moron, and old, and I can't figure out what IC means except Integerated Circuit. Can someone help me? I could see DS as Deep State, but this one has me flummoxed.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 23, 2017 02:19 AM (lIZQs)

687 Intellagence community.

*misspelled on purpose*

Posted by: Infidel at July 23, 2017 02:21 AM (gDoff)

688 683 Try
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybok82dh

Posted by: MAxIE at July 23, 2017 02:25 AM (9TR2V)

689 Thank goodness this is the ONT as I know it by this time of night now....on a tangent about arms or machinery or historical strategy, not that ... thang from last night. I used to think the day threads could get harsh. Thankfully things back to normal here.

Posted by: keena at July 23, 2017 02:25 AM (RiTnx)

690 hi keena! so how was your day. I had a chocolate milkshake !

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:26 AM (6FqZa)

691 684 I heard at Okinawa 1911's were laying all over the ground

Posted by: MAxIE at July 23, 2017 02:26 AM (9TR2V)

692 Oh, and the Federation is probably not fascist. It looks authoritarian on screen because we mostly watch Starfleet, and officers at that. The space navy is itself run like a navy (duh!). And whatever they report of the Federation is likely to be filtered through a naval lens.

So, observational bias coupled with perhaps unreliable narrators.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:29 AM (6FqZa)

693 Lugers have to be kept meticulously clean and only use high quality ammo or else you start getting jamming problems.

Not the best pistol for wartime use.

However, it is a very, very enjoyable gun to shoot. Very comfortable and very accurate.

Better than either the P-38 or the Luger, IMHO, is the "Broomhandle" Mauser, especially with the original chambering. A flawless weapon, IMHO.

Posted by: The Political Gun at July 23, 2017 02:08 AM (vBeA5)


My lugar is an oldie, 1914. First year I think, and its a series "a", so its really early. I never fired jacketed ammo through it, so I used to just feed it garbage lead slug reloads and it always worked flawless. It seems so precision that I always wondered how it would be in dirty combat conditions. Hasn't been fired since the 80's. Its all numbers matching, so I basically retired it years ago. I have what looks like an original or damn close to original holster with a gott mit uns belt buckle. It was a fun gun to shoot, very instinctive.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 23, 2017 02:29 AM (aMlLZ)

694 Thanks Max. I did see on a gun forum that the House had passed the 1911 language (committee level, anyway).

Hope the CMP can make good $$$ on those.

Other big chew-toy among CMP types are the Philippine Garands. Have no idea about any of that, but still hope I can arrange to get a service grade special before too long to do most of the shooting, and let the two HRAs rest.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 23, 2017 02:30 AM (iynDC)

695 Hi BTH, went over to a pizza party...seriously w friends and it was delish!

Posted by: keena at July 23, 2017 02:31 AM (RiTnx)

696 In

Posted by: DC in River City, Team Mattis at July 23, 2017 02:33 AM (9LDED)

697 How do you get on the dark net? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: keena at July 23, 2017 02:34 AM (RiTnx)

698 What the Hell just went down in the Baltic?

War ships sunk?

Russia plane fired upon?

Shit getting out of control?

Posted by: Richard Brehme at July 23, 2017 02:35 AM (kFkpX)

699 If someone calls me an "ArmyWidow" and "black and blue" and "broken" my ass will beat them into next week. Especially if they then play innocent and claim that it wasn't meant to injure, it was just how they saw me.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 23, 2017 12:39 AM (/o9Qk)

^^^this^^^

L'Elle went full bunny boiler last night. It was ugly. I don't blame SMFH for unloading on her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 02:37 AM (XUcIQ)

700 BBC feed?

Is this real?

Posted by: Richard Brehme at July 23, 2017 02:37 AM (kFkpX)

701 talk about pilfered government goods:

last week a bag used to collect moon rocks in the apollo 11 mission was auctioned off. it still contained some moon dust. it had an interesting provenance. it had been stolen by an infamous collector who was busted. nasa then turned around and sold it for $900. the woman who bought it tried to sell it and nasa, having discovered they made an inventory mistake tried to claim it and took her to court. the judge ruled "tough" and the lady retained possession and put it up at christie's last week.

it went for over $1,500.000.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 02:38 AM (WTSFk)

702 Brehme, I dunno where you're getting this from

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:38 AM (6FqZa)

703 I feel a special connection to the Blackbird, as our company made the tires that it would take off and land on. The outside of the tire was Aluminum powder infused rubber to deflect heat because the outer surface of the Blackbird could reach 900F at full velocity. I only hope that I am not disclosing classified information with this post.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 23, 2017 02:41 AM (lIZQs)

704 I do find that Russia and China are doing 'joint exercises' in the Baltic, but I figured that was just Great Power dong waving.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:41 AM (6FqZa)

705 Oh, and the Federation is probably not fascist. It looks authoritarian on screen because we mostly watch Starfleet, and officers at that. The space navy is itself run like a navy (duh!). And whatever they report of the Federation is likely to be filtered through a naval lens.

So, observational bias coupled with perhaps unreliable narrators.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:29 AM (6FqZa)


Counter points:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hdiuRMK3UQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy5jAixHhSA

Also, the Federation attempts to commit genocide and comes very close to succeeding.

Posted by: The Marquis Hat at July 23, 2017 02:43 AM (vBeA5)

706 If SMFH isn't "unbanned", I'm leaving.

-That is all.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 23, 2017 02:44 AM (Ckg4U)

707 It looks like BBC I just caught this on a YouTube live feed....please tell me this is bullshit showing NATO arrivals in Brussels troop incursions into Latvia, Estonia Russia troops across neighboring borders

Posted by: Richard Brehme at July 23, 2017 02:45 AM (kFkpX)

708 *Maquis. a Marquis Hat probably has more satin.

I think during the Dominion War, Starfleet and especially Section 31 were getting dangerously independent of civilian control. Sisko's side project in getting the Romulans into the war could have backfired spectacularly badly.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:48 AM (6FqZa)

709 "And whatever they report of the Federation is likely to be filtered through a naval lens."

Maybe this has been commented already (I haven't been able to catch up, yet) but doesn' this bring navel gazing to a whole new level?

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 23, 2017 02:48 AM (lIZQs)

710 G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

...possibly for the last time.

-Your Friendly Neighborhood Slapweasel

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 23, 2017 02:49 AM (Ckg4U)

711 Wow, it's hard to crack tne ONT clique.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 23, 2017 02:54 AM (lIZQs)

712 Well, got to head to bed. Heard a very interesting talk this evening from Stu Chapman, who was Director of Marketing for Studebaker of Canada from 1963 until the end in 1966.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 02:57 AM (XUcIQ)

713 hard to crack the ont clique...

just don't go full bunny boiler...


bunny boiler, sheeesh


:-D

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 02:58 AM (WTSFk)

714 bergerbilder, if I'm in any clique here, I'll eat that satin marquis hat I saw earlier.

it's just very late at night so not many responses are likely to be posted, and those responses will be slow.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 23, 2017 02:59 AM (6FqZa)

715 It looks like BBC I just caught this on a YouTube live feed....please tell me this is bullshit showing NATO arrivals in Brussels troop incursions into Latvia, Estonia Russia troops across neighboring borders

Posted by: Richard Brehme at July 23, 2017 02:45 AM (kFkpX)


Link?

Posted by: O Chapéu De Guerra at July 23, 2017 02:59 AM (vBeA5)

716 Wow, it's hard to crack tne ONT clique.

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 23, 2017 02:54 AM (lIZQs)

Geeze, there's no clique. I, for one, simply have no interest in all the Star Trek/Star Wars minutiae. I did like your joke, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 23, 2017 02:59 AM (XUcIQ)

717 *unstatic*

This is not a "clique". This is about simple justice Across the Board.

*Pulls Down Shade*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 23, 2017 03:11 AM (Ckg4U)

718 "full bunny boiler"

i'm going to steal that.

lol

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 03:13 AM (WTSFk)

719 Clique? Like with a clicker? *hic!*

Posted by: 100 Proof Hillary at July 23, 2017 03:15 AM (bc2Lc)

720 Greetings, Fappers!

Don't ever let anyone tell you that Parisians are rude... I found them to be delightful and kind. Paris itself didn't impress me much, probably because it was approximately 389 degrees. Or possibly because what few restrooms they have are abjectly filthy and built to accommodate midgets. Paris sort of all looked the same to me... the same old buildings with Mansard roofs, with flats, and shops below. The most fun I had was dancing in the Metro with some Ukrainian buskers.

England has been magical, but they need to sort out their street sign situation. I see no point in having them way down low on a wall halfway down the other street. Not helpful. I am also at a loss as to how, of all the cities they have to choose from, Bath is the one that got World heritage designation. We had a lo Ely time, but it's another place that looks exactly the same!

Anyway, another five days and I will be home again!

Miss you assholes!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 23, 2017 03:19 AM (U+fUG)

721 just googled "full bunny boiler" and apparently it's a thing. shows you what i know.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 03:21 AM (WTSFk)

722 This thread is too peaceful. We need the FDA to make Hormel include carrot bits in their chili.

Posted by: Adolf Hitler at July 23, 2017 03:23 AM (/qEW2)

723 Miss you assholes!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


Reggie is better than you - he never misses.

Posted by: Barack Obama at July 23, 2017 03:25 AM (/qEW2)

724 This thread is too peaceful. We need the FDA to make Hormel include carrot bits in their chili.

Posted by: Adolf Hitler at July 23, 2017 03:23 AM (/qEW2)


Oh noes! You've discovered our secret to downing German pilots!!1!

Posted by: English scientists and engineers who AREN'T totes developing "radar" at July 23, 2017 03:26 AM (vBeA5)

725 there's nothing new in the inter webs.

i thought i'd come up with something with "richie mcsnootypants" but found one google citation in an "american spectator" article.

oh well.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 23, 2017 03:31 AM (WTSFk)

726 Update on the gun question.

Feed back from a gun guy I know:

"It looks to me like the ... light colored background is overpowering the shadow in detail of the dark pistol, so the barrel is narrowed and (if a Walther) the hammer detail is lost.

I think it's a Walther P38, based on these things:

1. The era. More likely a captured P-38 would be employed by a GI in WWII than a rarer captured Luger;

2. The position of the GI's hand, seems different than it would be if it were a Luger, glove notwithstanding;

3. The Luger rear sight would be a bump further back than that which appears on the Walther and is suggested in the photo; and

3. The portion of the pistol slightly forward of the trigger guard, under the barrel, when accounting for the effect of the light IMO more closely matches that of the Walther than the Luger."

Posted by: The Gunning Hat at July 23, 2017 03:33 AM (vBeA5)

727 One of the most grotesque, appalling cases of white privilege I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmuECTZjECI


Posted by: Barack Obama at July 23, 2017 03:45 AM (/qEW2)

728

721 musical jolly chimp

just googled "full bunny boiler" and apparently it's a thing. shows you what i know.



It is not simply a thing ... it exists as a taxonomic class. I dated one, exactly once. 10 minutes into the date, I had a psychic sensation of a well-maintained riding crop in the exceedingly-close vicinity. I later determined that a conclusive indication was that the conversation was gradually turning into a training session. Yes, I really did manage to escape with my life, and no, this isn't funny.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 23, 2017 03:47 AM (FlRtG)

729 This is not my first time around the block. My one son has a CCW permit (owns 9mm, 0.38, 0.22,, plus many semi-auto rifles. My oldest daughter is a C-Cup. I saw on a you tube video Pete Townshend playing a Fender TELECASTER. Guns, boobs, guitars, that's the ONT.

"Open your mind. Learn to live a little." Quote from the movie "The Big Bus." If you haven't seen it, you need to "open your mind."

Posted by: bergerbilder at July 23, 2017 04:11 AM (lIZQs)

730 Pfeh. Was sleeping nicely, now my brain is in overdrive. Good thing I don't have to be up in the morning.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at July 23, 2017 04:46 AM (66CWr)

731

EMT is coming.

Any drama tonight? Last night was classic.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 23, 2017 05:04 AM (qul7b)

732 What happened? I missed it.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 05:14 AM (smD62)

733 Any drama tonight? Last night was classic.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 23, 2017 05:04 AM (qul7b)

No drama. Worse. Much worse than drama.

Math. A lot of it. Sine and tangents and some other stuff i never heard of. It was really bad.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 05:21 AM (38w5p)

734

My God Man, Not MATH !?!

Does the Pentagon know? The airborne command posts must MITO launch immediately!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 23, 2017 05:23 AM (qul7b)

735 I don't have to get up, but its the training. On the other hand
Sunday at around 5:30 seems the normal, its 4am every other day.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at July 23, 2017 05:25 AM (9g/6M)

736
Does the Pentagon know? The airborne command posts must MITO launch immediately!
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 23, 2017 05:23 AM (qul7b)


If they don't know, no need to worry. Some of the horde could prolly lay out the trajectories of the missiles by doing the math in their heads. Oh yeah, Grammie was absolutely loaded. I don't think she could do too much math last night.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 05:27 AM (38w5p)

737 Our Lovely and Sainted "grammie" was not only doing no math, but she reminded me of my own trip to Cancun.

I was so smashed that I couldn't have told you what day it was.

Welcome to the white beaches and beach-side bars!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 23, 2017 05:33 AM (Ckg4U)

738 What happened? I missed it.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 23, 2017 05:14 AM (smD62)

Really short version- two regular ettes got banned.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 23, 2017 05:34 AM (38w5p)

739 716 Wow, it's hard to crack tne ONT clique.


Crack is whack.

When do the Korean Garand's get ok'd for delivery to the US?

Posted by: Zombie Whitney Houston at July 23, 2017 05:36 AM (yKB8T)

740 One of my buddies was nearly arrested and jailed because his Drunken Ass couldn't stay out of the display fountain.

It called to him and he answered.

NEVER get in that mess in Mexico. Trust me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at July 23, 2017 05:39 AM (Ckg4U)

741 My squadron, VF84, flew F4J's when I was in the Navy first time in late 60's. They got F14's after I got out, and then got decommissioned after Tailhook. Another squadron, (World Famous Pukin' Dogs?) took the Jolly Rogers name later. Ahh, good times. Off to work, comrades!

Posted by: Eromero at July 23, 2017 05:49 AM (zLDYs)

742 Dunkirk:

The weird thing is, when it's all over, I realized the most daring thing about the film is that it declares there's such a thing as England. Maybe it's a Brexit statement.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 23, 2017 11:24 AM (ttpW1)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 07-22-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Make 'em Laugh

goofy nonsense.jpg


So, let's talk comedy.

I don't usually bring them up because I think that I view comedies very differently from most people. Where most people just want to laugh for 90 minutes (which is perfectly fine, by the way), I can't stop viewing movies through the prism of narrative. It's limiting and stupid, but I always pull back from a movie designed to make me laugh and my chief concern isn't "How much did I laugh?" but "How did that work as a movie?"

It's why I was lukewarm on The LEGO Batman Movie. Sure, it was funny as a collection of Batman jokes strung together, but I'm just not sure it worked that well as a movie. But, was it really supposed to be much more than a string of jokes about the history of the Caped Crusader?

So, let me provide three examples of comedies that I think work really well as movies first and comedies second.

Ghostbusters

ghostbusters.jpg

This is almost too easy. Of course Ghostbusters works as a movie. It's classic. But, what makes it work so well?

There's no one thing. There's so much that's good that you can't pin it down to one thing, but I do think that I can point to some specific elements that contribute to the movie's enduring appeal.

The movie itself works. It has solid characters. It has a plot. It doesn't dovetail into distractions for random jokes that may or may not land. Years after watching it for the first time, after every joke has been memorized and repeated ad nauseum, you can still sit down to that movie and be interested in Peter Venkman, Ray Stanz, and Egon. They're a fun trio who go on an adventure together.

There's rising action as the threat grows and eventually spins out of control. Our heroes must overcome a series of obstacles, each more difficult than the last (including the EPA, which is one step away from inter-dimensional super being of terror, apparently). They come together, work together, and accomplish their stated goal together. None of the jokes and humor distract from it.

It feels like an adventure movie written by very funny people.


Galaxy Quest

galaxy quest.jpg

So well regarded by Star Trek fans that it was viewed as about halfway up the list of Star Trek films in terms of quality at a fan convention, Galaxy Quest captures the wonder and excitement of the fish out of water tale in a sci-fi setting pretty much perfectly. It's so funny that when I first saw the movie with my mother in theaters, she was nearly rolling in the aisle with laughter.

I think the movie can have that effect because the plight of the characters at the beginning is so well captured. When we meet the crew of the NSEA Protector, they are desperately clinging to their TV roles from decades before. It's implied that they simply can't get work doing anything else than showing up at fan conventions or opening electronics stores. They spend all day pretending to be space trekkers but actually lead very sad little lives. The one who embraces it most, Tim Allen, is the saddest at heart, and his façade is so fragile that it shatters at the smallest of resistances.

When suddenly given a chance to not only live out these little fantasies that they've been playing with in order to feed themselves, but to also suddenly become actual heroes, they jump at the prospect. They love feeling important and idealized by fans who know that they're these characters.

The scene where Tim Allen has to admit that he's been lying is shockingly effective as straight drama. Alan Rickman's pledge to a dying crewmate is amazingly emotional. When I watch the movie, I watch for those two scenes. I still laugh along with it, but it's those two scenes that make it all worthwhile.

It feels like a straight action/adventure film where a layer of very good comedy was added on top.


Airplane!

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If narrative needs to come before jokes, then why do I love Airplane! so much?

2 reasons:

1) I'm a horrible hypocrite.
2) The narrative still works even though it's secondary to the string of jokes.

I think that this is where most modern parody films fail pretty consistently. They don't work as movies. They string together random jokes that don't go together very well, and think that referencing that one movie from a couple years ago that everyone liked ("Hey! It's Juno!") will make people laugh.

Go back to Airplane! and you'll see that it works very differently. Ted Stryker has an arc. It's a silly arc, but an arc nonetheless. His relationship with Elaine is built on the two of them overcoming obstacles to patch over their problems and reunite. There's a clear plot that the characters must work together to get through. It's silly, and makes silly work of the Airport movies, but it still basically functions.

And it's a perfect storm of funny jokes that don't over-rely on popular culture. There are some jokes that reference things like contemporary coffee ads and Jive talk, which isn't really a thing anymore. But, even though the base of those jokes are those outside references, the film still makes them work on their own. The coffee joke, for instance, comes up twice. The first time is a straight reference to the commercial ("Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home."), but the second time is a play on the first ("Jim never vomits at home.").

It feels like a scattershot comedy written by people who knew how to actually parody something specific.


So…

So that's just me. I overemphasize narrative in comedies.

What about you? Do you demand that your comedies work dramatically first? Or do you not give one whit about the dramatic elements of a comedy and just want a good laugh?


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Dunkirk
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Love in the Afternoon

Movies I Saw This Week:

Metropia (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) "Plodding and not terribly engaging, but unique looking. So it's got that going for it." [Netflix DVD]

Kill Bill Vol. 1 (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) "Tarantino's shallowest movie, but also his most fun. Where Vol. 2 is the heart, Vol. 1 is the raging libido of the story." [Owned]

The Immigrant (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Classical filmmaking about sin, forgiveness, and survival." [Netflix Instant]

Claire's Knee (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "A small and interesting moral tale that gains a surprising amount of emotional heft in its final act." [Netflix DVD]

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) "Hideous creature costumes, forgettable songs, and a very closed visual feel make this a bit of a chore to sit through." [Amazon Prime]


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Comments

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1 Watching Blazing Saddles as I type.


Gonna follow it up with Hot Fuzz.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 22, 2017 07:13 PM (/o9Qk)

2 I watch Galaxy Quest anytime it's on. Plan to see Dunkirk early next week. I hear they both have about the same number of black folk.

Posted by: Eromero at July 22, 2017 07:16 PM (zLDYs)

3 Hopefully some Dunkirk reviews from those who saw it

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:16 PM (9g/6M)

4 Asking the important questions:

[ ] The Producers
[ ] Blazing Saddles
[ ] Young Frankenstein

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (pV/54)

5 I really want to see it next weekend

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (9g/6M)

6 Oooh, Blazing Saddles is amazing. One of my favorites.

For me, I need a narrative to hang the jokes on. I can enjoy an occasional non-sequitur, I was weaned on Monty Python, but the show can't be just that. Which is one of many reasons I hate Seth McFarlane shows.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (xJa6I)

7 Ghostbusters sucked. It really did.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 07:18 PM (rZ+mb)

8 Asking the important questions:

[ ] The Producers
[ x] Blazing Saddles
[ ] Young Frankenstein
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (pV/54)

...but you made me think about it. Young Frankenstein is a great parody as well as a great comedy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:18 PM (xJa6I)

9 4,

Yes.

Posted by: Anon a mouse... at July 22, 2017 07:19 PM (MINbv)

10 Surely, Airplane is the funniest movie ever!

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 07:19 PM (AMIL/)

11 A big reason Airplane worked as a film and not just for its jokes is because it's actually a remake of of the film "Zero Hour!" from 1957.

Posted by: Aruges at July 22, 2017 07:20 PM (RC642)

12 Asking the important questions:

[ ] The Producers
[ ] Blazing Saddles
[ ] Young Frankenstein

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (pV/54)


History of the World, Part I

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 07:20 PM (rZ+mb)

13 I don't think I tend to put narrative ahead of laughs. If it makes me laugh, I'm pretty good, even if the story sucks.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 22, 2017 07:20 PM (/o9Qk)

14 I have seen Blazing Saddles a couple of times but not my favorite comedy, but then not a big comedy fan. If I did maybe Caddyshack..

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:21 PM (9g/6M)

15 "Airplane" works, and has a great narrative structure, because the Zucker's were both inexperienced and kind of lazy, so they took an old classically structured airport drama, "Zero Hour", and remade it scene by scene except this time with jokes. And they proved again that well done slapstick ALWAYS works.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:21 PM (V2Yro)

16 "The In-Laws" with Peter Falk and my favorite, Alan Arkin.

Posted by: Serpentine Serpentine at July 22, 2017 07:21 PM (P7ulB)

17 I absolutely love slapstick.

Posted by: @DangerGirl (gab.ai) and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at July 22, 2017 07:22 PM (/o9Qk)

18 I watched Valerian and the City of a Thousand Worlds.

It is amazing how much it did well and how much it failed at.

It is absurd. I mean, it's an absurd movie, it has no sense of 'setup and payoff'.

The dialog is George Lucas levels of painful in places.

But...

But it has some really good things going on in it. The prologues are really well done. The Virtual Market is clever. The City/Alpha station is very cool. And the Nav'i aliens are really well done. The aliens feel alien, not like humans in funny makeup.

Well, all except Rihana.
Oh, it also has Rihana in a bodystocking. But wearing underwear for once. To keep the PG 13 rating.

I....think it's worth watching, if for only finding new things to marvel at and new things to hate.

And who doesn't need both of those things in their life?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:22 PM (xJa6I)

19 15 "Airplane" works, and has a great narrative structure, because the Zucker's were both inexperienced and kind of lazy, so they took an old classically structured airport drama, "Zero Hour", and remade it scene by scene except this time with jokes. And they proved again that well done slapstick ALWAYS works.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:21 PM (V2Yro)

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Slapstick on its own is shallow and doesn't appeal for long, I think. Backed up by something more solid, and it can live for a while longer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (Jj43a)

20 Surely, Airplane is the funniest movie ever!
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 07:19 PM (AMIL/)

Well, it's up there.

And don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (xJa6I)

21 My favorite Mel Brooks is Young Frankenstein, by far - every scene in that movie is hilarious!

Second favorite Mel Brooks - Spaceballs, if just for the last 5 minutes. "Hello my baby, hello, my darling, hello, my goodtime gal!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (V2Yro)

22 The Producers has a great premise, and serves as a spoof of the Creative Process. And dancing Storm Troopers!

Mel Brooks was in the US Army in Europe in WWII.

Brooklyn Boy Mel was also one-half of one of the best celebrity marriages of all time, with Bronx gal Anne Bancroft, nee Anna Maria Louisa Italiano.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (pV/54)

23 "The Trouble with Harry" with Shirley McLaine

Posted by: Serpentine Serpentine at July 22, 2017 07:24 PM (P7ulB)

24 Slapstick on its own is shallow and doesn't appeal for long, I think. Backed up by something more solid, and it can live for a while longer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (Jj43a)

The Princess Bride...

Story.... fighting... fencing... true love...

OK, I'll try to stay awake...

Posted by: Don Q. at July 22, 2017 07:24 PM (NgKpN)

25 I like smart comedy and crude comedy. I can watch Abbott and Costello chasing a mummy around and be delighted and I can watch "American Pimp" and just laugh and laugh.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 07:24 PM (5VlCp)

26 21 My favorite Mel Brooks is Young Frankenstein, by far - every scene in that movie is hilarious!

Second favorite Mel Brooks - Spaceballs, if just for the last 5 minutes. "Hello my baby, hello, my darling, hello, my goodtime gal!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (V2Yro)

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The only part of Star Wars that I think Mel Brooks understood was the marketing aspect, which is why the Spaceballs Flamethrower is the funniest but in it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:25 PM (Jj43a)

27 Bunch of movie trailers getting released this weekend at comic con. Justice League might look like it actually isn't all filmed with the zack Snyder color filter.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 22, 2017 07:25 PM (cAnNx)

28 I can put up with a flawed comedy if it has John Belushi in it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2017 07:26 PM (Lqy/e)

29 Eddie Murphy in Trading Places is amazing. And in 48 Hours.

The man was amazingly talented at a young age.

After Coming to America, his last great film, he mostly just...meh.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:26 PM (xJa6I)

30 27 Bunch of movie trailers getting released this weekend at comic con. Justice League might look like it actually isn't all filmed with the zack Snyder color filter.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 22, 2017 07:25 PM (cAnNx)

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It's being finished by Joss Whedon.

Zach Snyder's daughter committed suicide a few months ago, so he walked away from the project.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (Jj43a)

31 Very few movies make me laugh, laugh. Some are just light-hearted enjoyable. I did laugh a lot watching Mad World, Young Frankenstein, Airplane. One of my favorite light-hearted movies is The Long, Long Trailer.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (2+gSO)

32 I can watch a full Buster Keaton silent film movie.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (9g/6M)

33 Not a movie, and not American - but the series "Red Dwarf" was one of the only series that kept me busting out laughing out loud almost every episode. The episode "Polymorph" will still have me laughing til I have tears in my eyes every time a rewatch it.

In fact the only series I can think that made me laugh even more was "Black Adder".

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (V2Yro)

34 Second favorite Mel Brooks - Spaceballs, if just for the last 5 minutes. "Hello my baby, hello, my darling, hello, my goodtime gal!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:23 PM (V2Yro)

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The only part of Star Wars that I think Mel Brooks understood was the marketing aspect, which is why the Spaceballs Flamethrower is the funniest but in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:25 PM (Jj43a)

Druish Princess jokes were funny, too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (xJa6I)

35 29 Eddie Murphy in Trading Places is amazing. And in 48 Hours.

The man was amazingly talented at a young age.

After Coming to America, his last great film, he mostly just...meh.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:26 PM (xJa6I)

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He's kind of great in Dreamgirls. He's also playing it straight, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:28 PM (Jj43a)

36 I'm probably one of the few who found ghost busters to be Ho hum.

Posted by: Smitty27 at July 22, 2017 07:28 PM (jD3nE)

37 Besides the three illustrious blog selections: Beetlejuice, Blazing Saddles, Groundhog Day, The Jerk, Men In Black, My Cousin Vinny, Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Guilty Pleasures: Brave, Horton Hears a Who (Jesus allegory), We're the Millers, Wreck-It Ralph.

Posted by: Kate58 at July 22, 2017 07:28 PM (oLZsm)

38 36 I'm probably one of the few who found ghost busters to be Ho hum.
Posted by: Smitty27 at July 22, 2017 07:28 PM (jD3nE)

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It's what happens when you're just plain wrong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:29 PM (Jj43a)

39 4 Asking the important questions:

[3] The Producers
[2] Blazing Saddles
[1] Young Frankenstein

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (pV/54)

Didn't really care for The Producers. Blazing Saddles was absolutely fantastic up until they broke through into the studio. Everything after that was unfunny. Young Frankenstein was funny all the way through.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 07:29 PM (FUu/Z)

40 Eddie Murphy in Trading Places is amazing. And in 48 Hours.

The man was amazingly talented at a young age.

After Coming to America, his last great film, he mostly just...meh.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:26 PM (xJa6I)

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He's kind of great in Dreamgirls. He's also playing it straight, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:28 PM (Jj43a)

I agree. His 'James Brown' character was damn fine, especially in that scene where he shoots up in front of everyone, in defiance of everyone. Some good character moments there.

And he's good in Bowfinger. But he hasn't had that fire he had when he was younger.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:29 PM (xJa6I)

41 32 I can watch a full Buster Keaton silent film movie.
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (9g/6M)

+++

When I see one of his movies it is always with utter amazement and astonishment.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (2+gSO)

42 The thing about Mel Brooks comedies is that every scene has a punch line. Every scene.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (T71PA)

43 One of my all time favorite comedies, which made me laugh until I couldn't stand up, until my stomach cramped up was 'Clue' with Tim Curry.

I saw it at just the right time/age, I guess. Madeline Khan, Colleen Camp as Yvette...so quick, so witty, so silly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (xJa6I)

44 Buster Keaton - The General

A great comedy, a good story, and the stunts were all done by Keaton himself and are still some of the best, and most daring, ever performed by a lead actor.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (V2Yro)

45 "Drunk Stoned Brilliant Dead" is a great documentary about National Lampoon in the 1970s. It shows how Lampoon was the wellspring for so much of the great comedy of the 1970s and later. SNL, Harold Ramis, Belushi, Murray, even Judd Apatow and John Hughes started here.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:32 PM (pV/54)

46 41 32 I can watch a full Buster Keaton silent film movie.
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (9g/6M)

+++

When I see one of his movies it is always with utter amazement and astonishment.
Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (2+gSO)

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The General.

So classic.

Also pretty much anything else he made.

And yet, I still think that Harold Lloyd was the best of the big three silent comedy stars.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:32 PM (Jj43a)

47 Buster Keaton - The General

A great comedy, a good story, and the stunts were all done by Keaton himself and are still some of the best, and most daring, ever performed by a lead actor.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (V2Yro)

Yeah, that train chase scene...where the throws the rail tie? God, amazing. It's like watching early Jackie Chan movies. (No coincidence there, of course)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:32 PM (xJa6I)

48 Saw Dunkirk today. It's a very solid film. It could have been pretty dull in the hands of a less sophisticated filmmaker, but Nolan did a very good job.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 07:33 PM (kaCWe)

49 Ruthless People

Posted by: MAGA at July 22, 2017 07:34 PM (Tyk2V)

50 47 Yeah, that train chase scene...where the throws the rail tie? God, amazing. It's like watching early Jackie Chan movies. (No coincidence there, of course)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 07:32 PM (xJa6I)

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A film professor used that movie to point out how a lot of silent comedy wouldn't work with sound. When Buster sits on the train and it goes of without his knowledge, for instance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:34 PM (Jj43a)

51 "28 I can put up with a flawed comedy if it has John Belushi in it."

Obviously you never watched "1941".

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:34 PM (V2Yro)

52 30 27 Bunch of movie trailers getting released this weekend at comic con. Justice League might look like it actually isn't all filmed with the zack Snyder color filter.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 22, 2017 07:25 PM (cAnNx)

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It's being finished by Joss Whedon.

Zach Snyder's daughter committed suicide a few months ago, so he walked away from the project.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (Jj43a)



I know Whedon is finishing it up. But I'm guessing that it might be more of Geoff Johns getting a more prominent role after Batman V Superman and Suicide Squad rather than Whedon.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 07:34 PM (cAnNx)

53 So, "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum"?

Posted by: Mel's Apprentice at July 22, 2017 07:34 PM (P7ulB)

54 Money Pit

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 07:35 PM (gDoff)

55 I think "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is the greatest comedy movie ever made. It never gets old with repeated viewings, and every line in the movie is quotable. That's quite a feat.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 07:35 PM (sdi6R)

56 55 I think "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is the greatest comedy movie ever made. It never gets old with repeated viewings, and every line in the movie is quotable. That's quite a feat.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 07:35 PM (sdi6R)

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That's the exception to my rule.

I don't think that it works as a movie, but it's hilarious from beginning to end.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:36 PM (Jj43a)

57 A big reason "Airplane" worked as a film and not just for its jokes is because it's actually a remake of of the film "Zero Hour!" from 1957.

Posted by: Aruges at July 22, 2017 07:20 PM (RC642)


Yes, I was really surprised when The JamesMadison stated that "Airplane!" seemed like a parody but then didn't mention "Zero Hour!" Much of the dialog was lifted verbatim from "Zero Hour!" with the difference that zany stuff was going on in the background.

In regards to which movie is funniest, "The Producer," "Blazing Saddles" or "Young Frankenstein," that is a tough call: all have uproarious moments. I'm going to cast my vote for "Blazing Saddles" partly because the movie could not be made today -- sadly, the racial tensions are worse now than 30 - 40 years ago.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 22, 2017 07:36 PM (5Yee7)

58 Airplane2! is pretty good too, especially when Shatner comes in and steals the show

Posted by: MAGA at July 22, 2017 07:38 PM (Tyk2V)

59 No love for "What's Up Doc?"

I think it's one of the funniest screwball comedies ever.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 07:38 PM (OiLIO)

60 Galaxy Quest was a terrific comedic take on Star Trek. There was a scene where Alan Rickman (rolling his eyes) says to Tim Allen, "Oh I see you've managed to lose your shirt again." Which was a fun shot at Shatner who seem to lose his shirt every chance he got

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 07:38 PM (auHtY)

61 60 Galaxy Quest was a terrific comedic take on Star Trek. There was a scene where Alan Rickman (rolling his eyes) says to Tim Allen, "Oh I see you've managed to lose your shirt again." Which was a fun shot at Shatner who seem to lose his shirt every chance he got
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 07:38 PM (auHtY)

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Until he got fat and Shatner had the costume department develop a brand new uniform to hide his fatness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:39 PM (Jj43a)

62 Oh yeah, Murder By Death

Posted by: MAGA at July 22, 2017 07:40 PM (Tyk2V)

63 Too much Yiddish Humor in Mel Brooks movies for my taste. As if the movies were made to be shown in the Catskills.

Oy Ve!

There's a point where the ethnic expression of a movie starts leaving me as an outsider. Larry the Cable Guy and Wayans Brothers both rate the same type of reaction for me, along with Mel Brooks.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 07:41 PM (xz+89)

64 60 Galaxy Quest was a terrific comedic take on Star Trek. There was a scene where Alan Rickman (rolling his eyes) says to Tim Allen, "Oh I see you've managed to lose your shirt again." Which was a fun shot at Shatner who seem to lose his shirt every chance he got

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 07:38 PM (auHtY)



Personally I love the scene at the Chompers. Because you can tell right there that they had considered making it an R-Rated movie. Before running into the Chompers Weaver very clearly says "FUCK THAT!" But the audio is "Well Screw That!"

https://youtu.be/gqRdT8m1Suo

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 07:42 PM (cAnNx)

65 If a comedy movie makes me laugh, it's a success. I can deal with silly (not stupid), slapstick (I know I can be shallow), clever and subtle. That's process. Too much dependence on short-lived fads doesn't hold up. And if there are a few moments of non-comic emotion, that makes the comedy more effective. As pointed out, Galaxy Quest has such moments.

So for me it's:
- most Mel Brooks films with Blazing Saddles in the lead.
- Airplane.
- Undercover Brother.
- The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming.

Then there are non-comedies that have funny, often unexpected moments. John Carter is like that. (Disney really F'ed up the promotion of that film, the critics hated it and the public enjoyed it.)

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2017 07:42 PM (V+03K)

66
Until he got fat and Shatner had the costume department develop a brand new uniform to hide his fatness.
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It's not Shat's fault he got fat! Your metabolism changes as you get old!!!


Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)

67 What's with the Danny Kaye photo in the post? I really, actively dislike Danny Kaye films.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 07:44 PM (T71PA)

68 I can't remember a lot of classic comedies. But I loved Airplane.
Young Frankenstein was great.
A Fish Called Wanda was hilarious.
Das Boot was funny -no wait it was depressing. All the others were funny.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 22, 2017 07:44 PM (nBr1j)

69 "Dunkirk" is excellent. Saw it yesterday. Will see it again.

As for comedies, good comedies make you forget that the movie is designed to make you laugh. Rather, the laughs are natural and cause you to forget you're watching a comedy per se. "Annie Hall" is one of those, I think.

Posted by: RS at July 22, 2017 07:44 PM (CNQqJ)

70 53
So, "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum"?

Posted by: Mel's Apprentice at July 22, 2017 07:34 PM (P7ulB)
----------------------It has some great lines and probably the funniest chase scene on film. For a movie off the beaten path, might I suggest "Dark Star"? An ultra low budget sci-fi movie that always cracks me up, especially when they have to feed the alien. That and teaching Bomb 19 phenomenology.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (zxicL)

71 Favorite Mel Brooks film?

The Producers.

OMG. The world of theater is just like that. Most espeically the Mr. Belevedere uber gay director.

/one of the top 50 reasons Shibumi is not married: almost a decade in theater. Sorry, "theatre."

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (aT+Bx)

72 Thought it was Donald O'Connor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (IqV8l)

73 And it's a perfect storm of funny jokes that don't over-rely on popular culture. There are some jokes that reference things like contemporary coffee ads and Jive talk, which isn't really a thing anymore.

I don't think gladiator movies were ever a thing.

Which is why it's so funny.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (P/kVC)

74 No one has mentioned the classics:

"Love and Death"
"Sleeper"
"Take the Money and Run"
"Bananas"
"Play it Again, Sam"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:46 PM (V2Yro)

75 It's not Shat's fault he got fat! Your metabolism changes as you get old!!!


Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)
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That's the sweetest thing you've said all day.

Posted by: Bill at July 22, 2017 07:46 PM (P7ulB)

76 Thought it was Donald O'Connor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (IqV8l)

Doh! you're right. Never mind.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 07:46 PM (T71PA)

77 Comedies tend to be my least favorite option. I prefer there to be comedy in another type of movie. It's not that I don't like any comedies. But most have little repeat value.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 07:48 PM (kaCWe)

78 Police Squad! was a much better series than the derivative Naked Gun movies,

The series stayed true to the tropes of detective television shows and had the hyper literal type joke of Airplane!, and the characters always went with the gag as a normal part of the show's universe.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 07:48 PM (xz+89)

79 59 No love for "What's Up Doc?"

I think it's one of the funniest screwball comedies ever.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 07:38 PM (OiLIO)

+++

I think I remember it being funny but I can't take Barbara Streisand anymore. I tried re-watching The Way We Were and just couldn't stomach it. Streisand became that character in real life, without the charm. This is a case where her left-wing political lunacy has over-powered any of her talent, whether it be music or acting.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 07:48 PM (2+gSO)

80 I loved "Airplane!" because I had already seen all of the 1970s disaster movies it parodied.

(Karen Black was scrumptious in "Airport 75". I was 17 at the time. Mmm.)

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 07:48 PM (sdi6R)

81 Speaking of slapstick, how about Slap Shot?

2 minutes of the Hanson brothers:

http://tinyurl.com/ycsprlug

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2017 07:48 PM (OdK9v)

82 Saw Fist Fight. Vulgar and stupid but funny and politically incorrect. 3/5 stars.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (hMwEB)

83 Woody Allen is another one I don't find that funny.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (9g/6M)

84 That "Vnemployment" scene in "The History of the World, Part One" is a classic:
"Oh, a bullshit artist. Did you bullshit this week? Did you try to bullshit this week?"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (5YBu8)

85
Doh! you're right. Never mind.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 07:46 PM


BTW, I agree with you on Danny Kaye.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (IqV8l)

86 Ghost Busters worked because Murray is Murray, and the part was perfect.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (OdK9v)

87 how could anyone's soul be so damaged as to hate Danny Kaye films?

"The Vessel with the Pestle has the Brew that is True!"

When I was 5 years old, Danny Kaye was the first actor I ever truly adored.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:50 PM (V2Yro)

88 "3 Hopefully some Dunkirk reviews from those who saw it
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:16 PM"

I'd post one, but I don't want to go OT, especially on a comedy thread. Bottom line: Five/Five.

Posted by: RS at July 22, 2017 07:50 PM (CNQqJ)

89 Woody Allen is another one I don't find that funny.
Posted by: Skip
------------

Me either. Vapid.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 22, 2017 07:50 PM (OdK9v)

90 [ ] The Producers
[ ] Blazing Saddles
[ ] Young Frankenstein

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 07:17 PM (pV/54)


Producers and Young Frankenstein are the funnier of the three. Blazing Saddles is funny but a bit too much over the top in places. Whereas Young Frankenstein has the scene in the train station

Gene Wilder - Pardon me boy, is this the Transylvania station?

Boy - Ja, ja. Track 29. Oh would you like a shine?

That was cleverly done

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 07:51 PM (auHtY)

91 Also saw The Silence.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (hMwEB)

92 I'm not a laugh out loud sort of person but "Innerspace" got me going. Literally laughed until I cried. Good movie as well.

Posted by: Javems at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (yOqwj)

93 Sacre Bleu!

No mention of the great Jerry Lewis!

Posted by: The French at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (pV/54)

94 73
I don't think gladiator movies were ever a thing.

Which is why it's so funny.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (P/kVC)


Oh yes, they were, in the 50s and 60s. Lots of forgotten low-budget movies.

Which is why it's so funny.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (sdi6R)

95 Sacre Bleu!

No mention of the great Jerry Lewis!

Posted by: The French at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (pV/54)


Hardly Working is comedic genius

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 07:53 PM (auHtY)

96 Slapshot - Paul Newman's most underrated film.

Best part - everyone who's ever played in small town hockey teams agrees that Slapshot was the most realistic movie about small market pro hockey ever filmed. Really!

(okay, it was the only one, but still)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:53 PM (V2Yro)

97 I just watched Hope/Crosby 'Road to Morocco' and found it funny. Again. I suspect it may work for me because it is a comedy/slapstick that is not a comfort food but a comfort movie.
Maybe I saw it during a happy post Thanksgiving Dozeoff.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2017 07:54 PM (e1mEI)

98 My favorite comedy is Raising Arizona.

Not sure I laughed once, the first time I saw it (loved it though).
The images and phrases stick with me, and I laugh at them at odd times, when they pop into my head. Like the camera flash when Hi is looking at the underside of his cellmate's bunk. Or the whole sequence leading to "Boy, didn't we just tell you not to do that?"

Posted by: Splunge at July 22, 2017 07:56 PM (+vxbn)

99 Animal House was a seminal movie that every college frat movie spoof aspires to but always falls far short.

Another NatLampoon related project that hit the mark was Vacation. The Moose out front should have told you.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 07:56 PM (xz+89)

100 Just the other evening, I turned on the TV and saw that there was 45 minutes left of Ghostbusters. Even though I knew the good guys would win and I've watched it 4 or 5 times, I watched those 45 minutes.

Still good.

Posted by: Just John at July 22, 2017 07:56 PM (h3ovR)

101 Blazing Saddles is one of the best. Years ago, when I worked for Campbells, Burt Gilliam was our Pace Picante spokesman(New York City?). I played golf with him at Colonial CC and he told me how he got into movies.

He was a Dallas fireman who one day went to a casting call for extras in Paper Moon. He wound up being cast as the Inn keeper and got an Academy Award nomination for it. He then went back to the firehouse until one day one of his buddies calls out, "hey Burt, some guy named Mel Brooks is on the phone for you." The rest is history.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 22, 2017 07:57 PM (O5U4s)

102 "Mrs. Doubtfire" also got me going.

Posted by: Javems at July 22, 2017 07:57 PM (yOqwj)

103 Woody Allen has some of the best comedic lines in film history, come on. One of my all time faves, from "Love and Death", as he's discussing what he's learned from life before he dances off screen with death:

"And I've learned that Sex without Love is an empty, meaningless, experience. Of course, as empty, meaningless, experiences go, it's one of the best!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:58 PM (V2Yro)

104

Comedies That Were Not Funny At All

When Harry Met Sally
Sleepless In Seattle
Anything With Meg Ryan In It
Anything With Billy Crystal In It
Dogma


What others?

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 07:58 PM (lzrKs)

105 I can watch a full Buster Keaton silent film movie.
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (9g/6M)

+++

When I see one of his movies it is always with utter amazement and astonishment.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 07:31 PM (2+gSO)



Keaton was very gifted and much funnier than Chaplin who I think was very overrated.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 07:59 PM (auHtY)

106 What's Up Doc starring Ryan O'Neal and Babs Streisand. You'll pee in your pants from laughing so hard

Posted by: ja at July 22, 2017 07:59 PM (A4zoG)

107 All this talk of Galaxy Quest and no one is mentioning Sam Rockwell's character? He was hilarious beyond measure. And his realization that he doesn't have to be the red shirt but may be the "plucky comic relief" is utterly brilliant.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 07:59 PM (gXw9D)

108 I'm with you, TJM. The more story-telling a comedy (which is hard to do -- to make near-realistic characters continually funny) the better I like it.

I looked up the movies considered comedies and borderline hybrid-comedies that have won the Best Picture Oscar (of course not really credible for most of us; my favorite would be The Sting):

6 Comedies
It Happened One Night (1934)
You Can't Take It With You (193
Going My Way (1944), a musical comedy
Tom Jones (1963, UK)
The Sting (1973)
Annie Hall (1977)

7 Hybrid-Comedies]
The Apartment (1960)
Terms of Endearment (1983)
Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
Forrest Gump (1994)
Shakespeare in Love (199
American Beauty (1999) - a dark, satirical psychological drama [WHICH I PERSONALLY HATED!!!]
Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance) (2014) - a dramatic rom-com

Posted by: ShainS at July 22, 2017 07:59 PM (ZcAbN)

109 By Grapthar's Hammer, what a movie thread!

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:00 PM (ANIFC)

110 If narrative needs to come before jokes, then why do I love Airplane! so much?

2 reasons:

1) I'm a horrible hypocrite.
2) The narrative still works even though it's secondary to the string of jokes.


Actually, the narrative came first. In fact, it came fr4om decades before.

It was a remake of an old straight drama flick "Zero Hour". And yes, it was so close to the original, that the producers bought the right to the original script.

What "Airplane!" did was tell the same serious story, but in a humerus way. Thus the humor flowed from the plot and not visa versa.

Posted by: The Cinematic hat at July 22, 2017 08:00 PM (vBeA5)

111 You do realize that Airplane! is actually a sort of warped remake of a 1956 movie called Zero Hour! which was a more straight air disaster flick...but then the Zuckers bolted on every absurdity possible and riffed off the recent Airport series.

Maybe that's why it works for you--it's not that a plot was bolted on to string the jokes together, it's that the jokes were bolted onto the pre-existing plot until they created a second structure.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not a damn failure at July 22, 2017 08:00 PM (66CWr)

112 "The Vessel with the Pestle has the Brew that is True!"

When I was 5 years old, Danny Kaye was the first actor I ever truly adored.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:50 PM (V2Yro)

My kids loved that whole bit. I suffered through it because I'm a giver.

Oh, and Jerry Lewis? He's just a younger version of Danny Kaye.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 08:01 PM (T71PA)

113 I second the charge that Woody Allen is not especially funny.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:01 PM (gXw9D)

114 ...I'm not going to pretend I beat Hat with my mispost in the previous thread. Just goin' with the flow.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, not a damn failure at July 22, 2017 08:01 PM (66CWr)

115
btw, John Heard is mortadella.


He was in lots of stuff, but he's a very forgettable persona.

Home Alone, CHUD, Big, etc.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (lzrKs)

116 "What "Airplane!" did was tell the same serious story, but in a humerus way."
Posted by: The Cinematic hat at July 22, 2017 08:00 PM

You pullin' our leg?

Posted by: RS at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (CNQqJ)

117 It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World is a movie that I still laugh out loud at.

Posted by: Aviator at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (/Nite)

118 I just watched Hope/Crosby 'Road to Morocco' and found it funny. Again. I suspect it may work for me because it is a comedy/slapstick that is not a comfort food but a comfort movie.
Maybe I saw it during a happy post Thanksgiving Dozeoff.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 22, 2017 07:54 PM (e1mEI)



The Road movies are fun. They don't take themselves seriously for a second and there's plenty of breaking the fourth wall. The end of one has Bob and Bing on a raft and Hope is going on about being too young to die. Crosby says something like, Hey Junior you can turn it off now. and points to the Statue of Liberty. Hope says, You've got your Oscar. Now I want mine and starts over acting about dying.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (auHtY)

119 Just want to throw it out there that, IMVHO, Hot Fuzz is the modern comedy movie gold standard, but that whole loosely-defined trilogy is fantastic.

Posted by: An Occasional Not-Lurker at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (fS6xP)

120 116 "What "Airplane!" did was tell the same serious story, but in a humerus way."
Posted by: The Cinematic hat at July 22, 2017 08:00 PM

You pullin' our leg?
Posted by: RS at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (CNQqJ)

It tickles the funny bone for sure!

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:03 PM (ANIFC)

121 What "Airplane!" did was tell the same serious story, but in a humerus way. Thus the humor flowed from the plot and not visa versa.
Posted by: The Cinematic hat

Like How Matt Stone and Trey Parker say that Team America is just a Michael Bay movie remade with puppets.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:03 PM (5YBu8)

122 The greatest scene in a Woody ALlen movie was this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJopF6WJNw

It is dead bang accurate. We now know that fat is healthier than carbs.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 08:04 PM (sdi6R)

123 There was a major comedy film breakpoint in the late 60's. Bananas, The Producers, MASH, and ultimately Blazing Saddles were a huge departure from the Bringing Up Baby-type romantic comedies, Inspector Clouseau films, and Jerry Lewis (ugh!) types of films Hollywood made up to then.

Then the SJW's imposed their reign of terror on Hollywood, and we cannot have nice things like poke-fun-at-anything films anymore. Crap!

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 08:04 PM (AMIL/)

124 " it's that the jokes were bolted onto the pre-existing plot until they created a second structure."

Dr Strangelove is a great black comedy. Kubrick started writing the script as a straight drama based on the book Red Alert, and then took a turn.

Posted by: The French at July 22, 2017 08:04 PM (pV/54)

125 Of Mel Brooks' movies, his first two probably fit the "narrative first, jokes second" form.

The 12 Chairs has the humor stem from a simple but serious plot.

The Producers had its uproarious moments, but they all flowed naturally from the basis of the plot such that when "Springtime for Hitler" begins, it doesn't come across as some shoehorned wacky moment, but the logical result of everything that came before it.

(The musical version, BTW, is an abomination, especially with the actors they chose for the film).

Both Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein were a result of writing a plot to fit in the parodies. Don't get me wrong, they are both great movies, but not in the same vein as the three highlighted in this post.

Posted by: The Cinematic Hat at July 22, 2017 08:04 PM (vBeA5)

126 Yay! Movies!

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:04 PM (lmIoG)

127 Another class of comedy film:

Comedies I'm embarrassed and ashamed to say I laughed at so much:

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
Taladega Nights
Ron Burgundy

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:05 PM (V2Yro)

128 the Jon Lovitz parts of 'The Race' slew me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=41imMO7XpFg

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:05 PM (6FqZa)

129 Has anyone else seen the Australian movie The Castle? My cousin in law made me watch it and I laughed my head off throughout. I don't remember it too well though, it was years ago. As I recall, a simple and not very bright man is having his home taken away via the Australian version of eminent domain, and . . . that's where my memories run out.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:06 PM (gXw9D)

130 104

Comedies That Were Not Funny At All

Anything With Billy Crystal In It


Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 07:58 PM (lzrKs)

++++

He has been funny on occasion.
Running Scared
The Princess Bride
Monsters Inc.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 08:08 PM (pvjTE)

131 Woody Allen is another one I don't find that funny.
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (9g/6M)

Yup.....Woody sucks donkey balls. But "Danny Rose" had it's moments.

Was Jerry Vale the fat singer in that one?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 08:08 PM (5VlCp)

132 Slapshot - Paul Newman's most underrated film.

Best part - everyone who's ever played in small town hockey teams agrees that Slapshot was the most realistic movie about small market pro hockey ever filmed. Really!

(okay, it was the only one, but still)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:53 PM (V2Yro)


That movie was frigging hysterical.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 08:08 PM (aMlLZ)

133 Ron Burgundy

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:05 PM (V2Yro)



I didn't think Anchorman was funny at all. It fact, it was the usual Will Ferrell over the top shit with PC sprinkled all over it. The worst part of it was everyone quoting it to death

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:08 PM (auHtY)

134 Another good set of films where the humor flows from the narrative, rather than showhorn a plot over random jokes, are "Support your local sheriff" and "Support your local gunfighter".

Both had decent mundane plots from Westerns, and then subverted it a subtle yet effective unrealism and wackyness that didn't detract from the overarching story.

Posted by: The Cinematic Hat at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (vBeA5)

135 oh, yeah, The Princess Bride! That was great, how could I forget that?

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (gXw9D)

136
A couple of comedies that work particularly well as movies first are Groundhog Day and Midnight Run. For a rom-com, I'm unsure that there is any as deftly done as LA Story. I hate rom-coms, but that is a great movie.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (lmIoG)

137 Comedies are my favorite. I've posted before but Bowfinger was a bad comedy in my opinion that after a couple of more viewings turned into a guilty pleasure for me that I will stop and watch if I come across it. Not many movies have done that kind of turn around for me.

Last comedy I saw at the movies was Keanu. It didn't start off as a bad comedy for me ( above average) but it is one that gets better on each viewing.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (IDPbH)

138 98 My favorite comedy is Raising Arizona.

Not sure I laughed once, the first time I saw it (loved it though).
The images and phrases stick with me, and I laugh at them at odd times, when they pop into my head. Like the camera flash when Hi is looking at the underside of his cellmate's bunk. Or the whole sequence leading to "Boy, didn't we just tell you not to do that?"

Posted by: Splunge at July 22, 2017 07:56 PM (+vxbn)

"Turn to the right."

"Mordecai, get that diaper off your sister's head!!!"

"That Motherscratcher?"

"You got four chairs and a table you got a dinette. You got a table you got dick!" - Nathan Huffheins

"Son, you got a panty on your head"

"Sometimes, once a month, I get the cramps real bad"

"and when we run out of crawdads, we ate sand."

"Her insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase."

Every character in that movie was memorable.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (xz+89)

139 Young Frankestein didn't work particularly well for me, but Blazing Saddles is genius. Some of Brooks' other earlier films such as High Anxiety are hilarious too. As a narrative comedy, Bullets over Broadway works well too. Woody Allen's best film, in my opinion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 22, 2017 08:10 PM (39g3+)

140 "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back"

And Eliza, Shannon and that blond chick in leather!

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 08:10 PM (pV/54)

141 Two Peter Sellers movies: The Mouse That Roared - not funny, not even amusing, even though critics say otherwise. The Party - very funny.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 08:10 PM (2+gSO)

142 Best Rom Com comedy for me is She's Out Of My League. The basement hockey scene is classic.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:11 PM (IDPbH)

143 Every character in that movie was memorable.
Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (xz+89)

Part of the Coen brothers' genius. All their characters are highly memorable.

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 08:11 PM (0mRoj)

144 138 98 My favorite comedy is Raising Arizona.

Not sure I laughed once, the first time I saw it (loved it though).
The images and phrases stick with me, and I laugh at them at odd times, when they pop into my head. Like the camera flash when Hi is looking at the underside of his cellmate's bunk. Or the whole sequence leading to "Boy, didn't we just tell you not to do that?"

Posted by: Splunge at July 22, 2017 07:56 PM (+vxbn)

"Turn to the right."

"Mordecai, get that diaper off your sister's head!!!"

"That Motherscratcher?"

"You got four chairs and a table you got a dinette. You got a table you got dick!" - Nathan Huffheins

"Son, you got a panty on your head"

"Sometimes, once a month, I get the cramps real bad"

"and when we run out of crawdads, we ate sand."

"Her insides were a rocky place where my seed could find no purchase."

Every character in that movie was memorable.
Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (xz+89)

"Can you describe you baby?"

"He looks like a baby."

"What was he wearing?"

"His PJs."

"Can you describe his PJs?"

"I don't know, they had Yodas and shit on them!"

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:11 PM (ANIFC)

145 Dodgeball is hilarious.

"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!"

Posted by: Jmel at July 22, 2017 08:11 PM (0pH66)

146 It's being finished by Joss Whedon.

Zach Snyder's daughter committed suicide a few months ago, so he walked away from the project.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 22, 2017 07:27 PM (Jj43a)


---

My understanding of that is it was done except for re-shoots, which is what Whedon is doing. So don't expect a Whedonesque film.

That said, I do like the current trailer that is up for it from comic con.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 08:12 PM (v3DL/)

147 He was wearing his damn jammies! Nobody sleeps naked in this house!

Posted by: Insomniac, Professional Nobody at July 22, 2017 08:12 PM (0mRoj)

148 The Coen brothers do comedy very well. I was surprised how much I enjoyed Hail Caesar, and Raising Arizona and The Big Lebowsky are gold.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:12 PM (gXw9D)

149
Kind Hearts and Coronets with Alec Guinness. A lovely black comedy (even if everyone in it is white).

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:13 PM (auHtY)

150 Old School. Something about disillusioned middle age guys trying to relive their college days strikes a chord with me.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:14 PM (ANIFC)

151 If I cut off my dick, and got them to make an ersatz vagina, would women find that appealing?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2017 08:14 PM (/qEW2)

152 I did not know that about Zach Snyder's daughter.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:14 PM (6FqZa)

153 I can't believe you brought up Dunkirk... I was angry to learn that it totally lacks women and POC lead characters. Shame

Posted by: Brad at July 22, 2017 08:14 PM (wBC4K)

154 I like Mars Attacks a lot. Humor is an odd thing

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 22, 2017 08:14 PM (Lqy/e)

155
Ed Wood.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (lmIoG)

156 Oh, I'm late!

Here's what I am tired of re: comedies: crude.
I'm not a prude, and I am fine with vulgarity - but in moderation, and not because the filmmakers think "if we triple the snot/puke/vomit/poop it will be 3x as funny!" No.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (NOIQH)

157 Love The Big Lebowsky.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (2+gSO)

158 I think UHF is a good comedy movie. But what do I know?

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (BO/km)

159 Slap Shot is a fantastic movie

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (9g/6M)

160 sorry, I loved Ron Burgundy. It's not as quotable as Monty Python but it still made me laugh out loud many times.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (gXw9D)

161 If I cut off my dick, and got them to make an ersatz vagina, would women find that appealing?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Umm...I believe the proper term is "fauxgina".

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (5YBu8)

162 Oh, UHF is a classic.

'SUPPLIES!!'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM (6FqZa)

163 159 Slap Shot is a fantastic movie
Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (9g/6M)

Wool by the pool.


Don't know how many times I heard or said that while in college.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM (IDPbH)

164 Surprised to not see This Is Spinal Tap posted yet. Not just a plot -- a documentary plot!

Posted by: Johnny Pedantic at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM (6OESk)

165 >>If I cut off my dick, and got them to make an ersatz vagina, would women find that appealing?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

Worth a try. No other way to find out for sure.

Posted by: Kaitlyn Jenner at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM (/Nite)

166 Probably already mentioned: "A Fish Called Wanda"
That movie always makes me laugh so dang hard. I LOVE Kevin Kline as the stupid bully, Michael Palin as the stuttering animal-lover, the whole honeytrap/love connection. So funny!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM (NOIQH)

167 "Groundhog Day" probably deserves it's own thread some day.

On the surface, a hilarious Bill Murray movie that works comedically in every scene.

Just under the surface, arguably one of the most deeply spiritual movies ever made. And effective because the majority of people who see it absorb its lessons without realizing that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:17 PM (V2Yro)

168 For a rom-com, I'm unsure that there is any as deftly done as LA Story. I hate rom-coms, but that is a great movie.
Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:09 PM (lmIoG)

------

I'm not sure how true it is, but I've been told the coffee ordering scene inspired the guy who started Starbucks.

"I'll have a half caf, double decaf with a twist of lemon"

Posted by: MAGA at July 22, 2017 08:17 PM (Tyk2V)

169 Probably already mentioned: "A Fish Called Wanda"
That movie always makes me laugh so dang hard. I LOVE Kevin Kline as the stupid bully, Michael Palin as the stuttering animal-lover, the whole honeytrap/love connection. So funny!


Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM


Kline's Otto is sheer genius. He owned that flick.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:18 PM (lmIoG)

170 148 The Coen brothers do comedy very well. I was surprised how much I enjoyed Hail Caesar, and Raising Arizona and The Big Lebowsky are gold.
Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:12 PM (gXw9D)

O Brother Where Art Thou? is another.

"I'm a Dapper Dan Man myself"

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:18 PM (xz+89)

171 166 Probably already mentioned: "A Fish Called Wanda"
That movie always makes me laugh so dang hard. I LOVE Kevin Kline as the stupid bully, Michael Palin as the stuttering animal-lover, the whole honeytrap/love connection. So funny!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:16 PM (NOIQH)

Don't call me stupid!

Posted by: Harvey Manfrensenginsen at July 22, 2017 08:18 PM (ANIFC)

172 83 Woody Allen is another one I don't find that funny.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 07:49 PM (9g/6M)

++++

His earlier comedies, the ones that are supposed to be so great, just don't do it for me. An occasional smile, if I don't doze off. But, I did like one of his later comedies, Mighty Aphrodite. The scene where he meets Mira Sorvino's character (a prostitute) is hilarious.

https://youtu.be/dmUzK-GxSu4?t=15s

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 08:19 PM (FUu/Z)

173 I always enjoy "What's Up Doc" but not for Streisand. Ryan O'Neal's oblivious character is fun, Madeline Kahn is hilarious as Eunice, and Liam Dunn as the Judge make the movie for me.

I can't think of a Madeline Kahn performance that wasn't brilliant: Clue, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, etc., etc.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2017 08:19 PM (V+03K)

174 Saw "Blazing Saddles" on a big screen in a big theater when it came out. Saw it with my girlfriend at the time (I was 1 and we thought the black lady behind us was going to die laughing.

A really funny minor classic is "Rancho Deluxe", starring Jeff Bridges and Sam Waterson (way before he took himself so seriously as a DA) as ne'er do well cattle rustlers in the modern west. Slim Pickens, Elizabeth Ashely, Harry Dean Stanton, Jimmy Buffet sings "Livingston Saturday Night", a song written for the movie (Livingston,Montana, I think).

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:19 PM (S6Pax)

175 "Earth in the Lurch" by Al Gore was comedy gold.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 08:19 PM (5VlCp)

176 When I saw Ace Ventura 2 in the theater I couldn't even breathe I was laughing so hard. I know that says more about my classlessness than the movie.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:19 PM (gXw9D)

177 No one has mentioned the classics:

"Love and Death"
"Sleeper"
"Take the Money and Run"
"Bananas"
"Play it Again, Sam"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 07:46 PM (V2Yro)



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Great films. I love, "Love and Death".

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 08:20 PM (v3DL/)

178 Yeah! Spinal Tap! And Best in Show too.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:20 PM (gXw9D)

179 There is what I guess is s dark comedy Australian movie of a woman living in a high rise hires a guy to fix up the bathroom and he comes there every dsy but makes everything super complicated and worse. But I didn't see the end, but at one point the woman goes into the bathroom and there are more pipes connected together you cant hardly manuver in there.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 08:20 PM (9g/6M)

180 "Earth in the Lurch" by Al Gore was comedy gold.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

I hear Brian Dennehy is going to play Glacier National Park in the sequel.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (5YBu8)

181 Funniest physical comedy scene ever for me is the Jerry Lewis boxing match in Sailor Beware. The scene with Martin in the locker room right before was also classic. 'Sisseen, Sisseen fights'

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (IDPbH)

182 I've never been an Adam Sandler fan, but I like Happy Gilmore.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (gXw9D)

183 I'd rank my favs this way:

1: Life of Brian (Making it worse?!? How could it be worse?!? Jehovah! Jehovah!)
2: Holy Grail (Bet you're gay! No I'm not!)
3: Airplane (Excuse me stewardess, I speak Jive.)
4: Pink Panther (Thet is not meh dog...)
5: Blazing Saddles (Somebody's gotta go back and get a shitload a dimes!)
6: Young Frankenstein (Abbie someone...)

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (w+Jhj)

184 "Are you going to k-k-k-k-kill me, K-k-k-k-en?"
Heh.


"OSS 117: Cairo Nest of Spies" is funny. A french James Bond. I didn't really get the homoerotic paddle-ball stuff, but otherwise very silly and willing to make un-PC jokes. Jean Dujardin is an absolute delight to watch.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (NOIQH)

185 Something About Mary is a rom-com from a guy's point of view. The perfect girl will pick the nerdish guy because his heart is so true! Crazy, funny scenes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (pV/54)

186 Another great comedy that has been totally blacklisted from viewing, or even mentioning:

"Zorro, the Gay Blade".

I wouldn't be surprised if someone in California isn't working on buying every copy and burning them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:22 PM (V2Yro)

187 182 I've never been an Adam Sandler fan, but I like Happy Gilmore.
Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:21 PM (gXw9D)

Wasn't a Sandler slapstick comedy but I thought Funny People was a great movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:22 PM (IDPbH)

188 "A Shot in The Dark" is my favorite Pink Panther movie, and one of my favorite movies, period.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:22 PM (ANIFC)

189 Looks like I picked the wrong week to take a nap after work.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:23 PM (678B2)

190 OK, bear with me a moment. I do have a point. When I was a music major in college, Woody Berman came to town. For you ignorant youngsters out there, Woody Herman was a big jazz star in the 40s and 50s but he had to be in his 70s then. I thought, you know, he used to be somebody, I guess I ought to go see him.

He absolutely blew me away. He had a smoking band and at one time they were playing this psychedelic number complete with colored strobe lights and stage smoke and it was just chaos. Suddenly, behind us, the trumpets blare out. The trumpeters had snuck off stage during the chaos and into the aisles behind us. If I recall correctly, they psychedelic-up McArthur's Park and the trumpets were blaring the theme "McArthur's Park is melting in the dark . . . " At the fanfare of the trumpets, the chaos is over and they are a tight, tight jazz band.

So is it with comedies, controlled chaos. You can get crazy with nice interpreters but then you need a fanfare and you're back in the plane without a pilot.



Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 08:23 PM (Nwg0u)

191 HAS ANYONE MENTIONED "ZERO HOUR" YET?

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 22, 2017 08:23 PM (pszv/)

192
Oh, that reminds me. If you can find it, try to catch "Malcolm" from the 80's. Australian comedy about bank robbers. It's extremely good and meets TJM's criteria of narrative.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:24 PM (lmIoG)

193 Older movie "Foul Play" is very funny - Goldy Hawn, Chevy Chase, and a hilarious cameo by Dudley Moore. Beware the dwarf! Kojack, bang bang!

I much prefer these older comedies that anything made by an SNL alum in the last 10-15 years. Will Farrell is a one-trick pony.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:24 PM (NOIQH)

194 I loved Zorro, The Gay Blade as a kid. Must have seen it 50+ times back then.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 08:24 PM (H5knJ)

195 One way I rate a movie is if I would watch it again. I don't think I'd go out of my way to watch it but would if maybe I didn't have anything else better to watch. Like UHF.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 08:24 PM (BO/km)

196 Looks like I picked the wrong week to take a nap after work.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR)


So you didn't get fired after coming in late the other day?

Well, that's good.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:25 PM (S6Pax)

197 If it wasn't for us, you'd all be speaking German! Singing "Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles!"

Posted by: Harvey Manfrensenginsen at July 22, 2017 08:25 PM (ANIFC)

198 "This is Spinal Tap."

The concert industry is just like that. Honestly.

Fran Drescher has a small role as a PR girl and she's perfect.

[paraphrased]

Rob Reiner: That was a lovely melody.
Nigel: Yes, it's a bit of Bach and Mozart. It's Mach.
Rob: What's it's called?
Nigel: I call it Lick My Love Pump.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:25 PM (aT+Bx)

199 Has anyone else seen the Australian movie The Castle? My cousin in law made me watch it and I laughed my head off throughout. I don't remember it too well though, it was years ago. As I recall, a simple and not very bright man is having his home taken away via the Australian version of eminent domain, and . . . that's where my memories run out.
Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:06 PM (gXw9D)



"The Castle" is pretty good.

The Australian comedy that I think is pretty great is

"Hotel de Love" .


Great story, lots of earned laughs and one of the best endings I've seen in what is essentially a rom-com.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 08:25 PM (9q7Dl)

200 Mel Brooks, of course. And the early Woody Allen.

Brooks' "The Inquisition" from "History of the World Part I" and his "Springtime for Hitler" from "The Producers" are both parodies of Broadway showstoppers and are right on the money. Hilarious and irreverent as hell.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 22, 2017 08:25 PM (LQLeS)

201 Repo Man is a very quotable movie with Harry Dean Stanton and Emilio Estevez

"John Wayne was a FAG"

"Huh?"

"It's true boys. I went to install two way mirrors at his pad in Brentwood and he came to the door in a dress."

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (xz+89)

202 148 The Coen brothers do comedy very well. I was surprised how much I enjoyed Hail Caesar, and Raising Arizona and The Big Lebowsky are gold.
Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:12 PM (gXw9D)


The Coen Brothers are great. I loved "The Hudsucker Proxy" and "Barton Fink".

I haven't even seen half of their movies. They make 'em faster than I can see 'em.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (sdi6R)

203 Speaking of scene-stealing comedic genius: Jackie Gleason as Sheriff Buford T Justice in "Smokey & the Bandit"

"Daddy, the top came off"
"Well no shit."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (5YBu8)

204 "It" being Ghostbusters that I wouldn't bother to watch again.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (BO/km)

205 no one else has commented on my comment about The Castle. Has anyone seen it?

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (gXw9D)

206 "A Shot in The Dark" is my favorite Pink Panther movie, and one of my favorite movies, period.

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I've often thought that is the perfect title for a suspense comedy.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (Nwg0u)

207 Lots of my favorites in the thread.

I laughed all the way through Airplane! My GF was laughing too -- at me having so much fun.

I rate Monty Python and the Holy Grail as the funniest, and really like Galaxy Quest. The cast did a great job, and the ending was superb. esp. Sam Rockwell.

Movies not listed yet: Captain's Paradise and Kind Hearts and Coronets with Alec Guinness, and Who is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe? Top Secret and Hot Shots had some good moments as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (hyuyC)

208 YIKES.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:27 PM (hyuyC)

209 The original "The Longest Yard" with Burt Reynolds is pretty danged funny.

"Where did you play?"

"Oklahoma State."

"University?"

"Pen."

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 08:27 PM (AMIL/)

210 I've mentioned before that you have to watch Spinal Tap with the commentary. The band does the commentary in character, it's hilarious.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:27 PM (ANIFC)

211 Whew. Saved by the close tag.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:27 PM (hyuyC)

212 Also... Blades of Glory was pretty effing hysterical, but then again, I've spent a lot of time backstage at Disney on Ice things, so really, it might not have been that funny to real people.

In fact, I saw the film with my Mom, and was laughing so hard. IIFC, she actually leaned over and said "it's not that funny," or something similar.

But it was. IT REALLY WAS.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (aT+Bx)

213 I also saw Dunkirk today with two of my sons.

My thoughts:

Good production values
Much of the acting was first rate.
Good depiction of the randomness of combat death.
Some issues though - in a event where 300,000 British troops were taken off the beach, why is it we were shown, at any one time, only a few hundred soldiers waiting to be evacuated? With computer generated graphics today, they could have easily placed thousands more on the beach.
Also, where the hell were any NCOs? Every army lives and dies due to the backbone of senior enlisted. We were only presented senior officers and lowly enlisted.

As described earlier today, my Sailor home on leave walked out. He didn't want to see ships sinking or drowning deaths.

Was at the range this morning with him and #3 and then ribs for dinner.

A great day really.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (tr2D7)

214 If I had to guess from the interviews I've heard , I'd guess the Weird Al Yankovic was a conservative. Ironically one reason is because he seemed to avoid talking anything political.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (IDPbH)

215 A Shot in The Dark is the best bedroom farce ever.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (hyuyC)

216 I've mentioned before that you have to watch Spinal Tap with the commentary. The band does the commentary in character, it's hilarious.
--

OK, so I have to get the collectors edition, is that what you're saying?

Because honestly, I find that film freaking hysterical.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (aT+Bx)

217 Others:

I'm Gonna Get You Sucka.
Brother from Another Planet.
The Gods Must Be Crazy.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (w+Jhj)

218 Bowfinger is the most underrated comedies of the past 25 years precisely because it's both a real movie as described by the OP and hilarious.

Posted by: Outside Adjitator at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM (pXthv)

219 The "Naked Gun 2 and a half." Some really funny bits. Damn, wish we could embed youtube clips.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM (LQLeS)

220 I think "Shot in the Dark" is the best of the Pink Panther movies, although "Return of the Pink Panther" comes close. (#3)

I saw an interview, said that when Blake Edwards first picked up the script to "Shot in the Dark", it was a prosaic attempt to mimic an Agatha Christie story, quite dull - and he decided to do it as written, but decided Clouseau would be the Inspector, and asked Sellers to mostly ad-lib his way through the part.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM (V2Yro)

221 One of my favorites is very unique.

"Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid". Starring Steve Martin. Scenes from many classic films are inter-cut into the movie to help with the story. Works quite well.

Plus, who doesn't like a cup of his famous java?

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM (v3DL/)

222 138 98 My favorite comedy is Raising Arizona.

Not sure I laughed once, the first time I saw it (loved it though).
The images and phrases stick with me, and I laugh at them at odd times, when they pop into my head. Like the camera flash when Hi is looking at the underside of his cellmate's bunk. Or the whole sequence leading to "Boy, didn't we just tell you not to do that?"

I remember the line " recidivist. That sure is a terrible word."

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM (nBr1j)

223 Speaking of Australian films, Housebound is a good one that is comedy/suspense (or horror).

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM (H5knJ)

224 Yeah! Spinal Tap! And Best in Show too.

Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:20 PM (gXw9D)



Waiting for Guffman is very funny too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:30 PM (auHtY)

225 I really want to see the Big Sick, but it's not going to be anywhere near me in the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 08:30 PM (smD62)

226 Nope not fired. Talked with one of the managers, the one who still manages to smile and laugh. I have this suspicion that one of these days she's going to snap and suddenly everyone is going to be dealing with Ilsa She-Kommandant of Wal-Mart. And I will be very darkly amused.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:30 PM (678B2)

227 Shakespeare in Love
When Harry Meet Sally
Sophie's Choice

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at July 22, 2017 08:30 PM (EZWNE)

228 198 "This is Spinal Tap."

The concert industry is just like that. Honestly.
Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:25 PM (aT+Bx)


My understanding is that actual rock musicians love that movie more than anyone.

I met a member of 10,000 Maniacs once and he said, "When we first started out, we went through more drummers than Spinal Tap."

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

229 no one else has commented on my comment about The Castle. Has anyone seen it?


Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM


Yes. It's actually fantastic. There's a sort of "sequel"... more of a follow up by the same team, that is also great... "The Nugget". See it.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:30 PM (lmIoG)

230 The 6 Police Squad TV episodes were funnier than any of the Naked Gun movies. IMHO.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (hyuyC)

231 Movies not listed yet: Captain's Paradise and Kind Hearts and Coronets with Alec Guinness, and Who is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe? Top Secret and Hot Shots had some good moments as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:26 PM (hyuyC)



*Looks at #149*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (auHtY)

232 Movies not listed yet: Captain's Paradise and Kind Hearts and Coronets with Alec Guinness, and Who is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe? Top Secret and Hot Shots had some good moments as well.

Top Secret started off as funny as Airplane but it lasted too long. It became boring and it's ending was unsatisfying

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (xz+89)

233 Not sure I laughed once, the first time I saw it (loved it though).
The images and phrases stick with me, and I laugh at them at odd times, when they pop into my head. Like the camera flash when Hi is looking at the underside of his cellmate's bunk. Or the whole sequence leading to "Boy, didn't we just tell you not to do that?"

Posted by: Splunge at July




The Lone Biker of the Apocalypse

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (0wem/)

234 Some issues though - in a event where 300,000 British troops were taken off the beach, why is it we were shown, at any one time, only a few hundred soldiers waiting to be evacuated? With computer generated graphics today, they could have easily placed thousands more on the beach.

The Frogs agree with you; that they left out the French forces who kept Jerry off the beach for long enough.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (6FqZa)

235 Do MST3K/RiffTrax count as comedies? Because I was laughing so hard through "Samurai Cop" I missed half the jokes.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (ANIFC)

236 Lavender Hill Mob was worth it for the cop the crooks pick up just when "old mac donald had a farm" comes on the radio.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:32 PM (6FqZa)

237 Bowfinger is the most underrated comedies of the past 25 years precisely because it's both a real movie as described by the OP and hilarious.


Posted by: Outside Adjitator at July 22, 2017 08:29 PM


Love Bowfinger.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (lmIoG)

238
My understanding is that actual rock musicians love that movie more than anyone.
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Supposedly Rob Reiner did some deep research before writing it, and got a lot of input from big name musicians and others in the concert industry. THAT'S why it's so accurate.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (aT+Bx)

239 Cheesy science fiction movies with rubber monsters are really funny too.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (BO/km)

240 The world is about to be destroyed because of you carbon obsessed assholes, AND ALL YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IS MOVIES??? You people are so vile. I hate you. Love me and listen to my wisdom and in that will consist your redemption. You fucking conservative asshole subhuman callous pieces of shit. Yes, there is redemption even for you.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (/qEW2)

241 I loved Zorro, The Gay Blade as a kid. Must have seen it 50+ times back then.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 08:24 PM (H5knJ)



Jew got a problem with jew bowels.

My what?

Jew bowels. A, E , I, O

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (auHtY)

242 Buster Keaton - The General

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And based on a true story. Of course, it glorifies the Confederacy so all prints must be hunted down and destroyed.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (Nwg0u)

243 #227 Sophie's Choice?! wtf? Perhaps you meant Sophie Tucker?

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (LQLeS)

244 Comedy that was great when I first saw it and laugh as hard as I have at any movie , that barely got a chuckle after seeing it again a few years latter was City Slickers.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (IDPbH)

245 Well, the interesting part about Dunkirk is not that a bunch of guys got cornered in france, it was the nature of the people evacuating the cornered guys.

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (0wem/)

246 232 Minuteman

I do agree kinda with that assessment of Top Secret, but some of the gags, like the exploding Pinto, were very good. It is better than Ghostbusters, according to my own idiosyncratic sense of humor and background.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:34 PM (hyuyC)

247 Black comedy nominee: Dr. Strangelove.

You can't tell me that by the end, you're not rooting for Slim Pickins and the guys in the B52.

"I don't avoid women, I just deny them my bodily fluids."

Also.. fluoride. Kubrick was decades ahead of the curve.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (aT+Bx)

248 Oldie but goodie: "Arsenic and Old Lace." Excellent Cary Grant.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (NOIQH)

249 A pretty funny Bill Murray movie

"Larger Than Life", when he inherits an elephant from his father (who was a carny), and spends the movie getting from Baltimore to LA with the elephant. In the process, he comes to love the elephant, understand his father, and have some hilarious adventures.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (S6Pax)

250 Thath an impother!

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (BO/km)

251 Blame it on the Bellboy. Horton - Lorton - Orton!

(but eclipsed by Galaxy Quest and Holy Grail)

Posted by: Looper at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (7xvrP)

252 #235 Yes, MST3K is comedy gold. Big fan. The funniest are the shorts. My fave being "Mr. B. Natural." Check it out on youtube.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (LQLeS)

253 I would be very worried if Crow ever rushed up to Tom Servo and exclaimed he had a cunning plan.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (678B2)

254 A pretty good Australian dark comedy is Proof. It has a young Russell Crowe in a supporting role.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102721/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (FUu/Z)

255 214 If I had to guess from the interviews I've heard , I'd guess the Weird Al Yankovic was a conservative. Ironically one reason is because he seemed to avoid talking anything political.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (IDPbH)

Actually he's liberal, but he's much smarter than the folks he parody's and he knows better than to unnecessarily piss off half of his fans.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (xz+89)

256 Zorro, The Gay Blade is the absolute favorite of a friend. It's even funnier because he is a straight as a rail, manly man, with 5 kids.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (hyuyC)

257 190 ... Glad someone else remembers Woody Herman. I saw him in the 60s and his Thundering Herd was always amazing with innovation and showmanship.

BTW, it may betray a huge lack of judgement, but I think "The Incredibles" animated movie is hilarious. The vocal deliveries are great.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (V+03K)

258 Well, Young Frankenstein, of course.

Moonrise Kingdom
Weekend at Bernie's, an oldie that I saw for the first time recently
The Grand Budapest Hotel. Dir. Wes Anderson
Meet the Parents
Greenberg Ben Stiller. - I know someone just like this
Elf
Bad Santa. - guilty admission
Bernie. Jack Black is an undertaker
Superbad
Tommy Boy. - Chris Farley
School of Rock Jack Black
Anchorman
The 40-Year-Old Virgin
the Big Lebowski





bad



Reenberg





Posted by: Judy at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (pPRTz)

259 Saw "Valarian and the City of a 1000 Planets"


Very fun movie. Great cinematic show not tell origins of the storyline.

Not a mess like some critics have been saying. They're stupid. There is a clear linear storyline throughout the movie.

So what's the problem?

Well, until the last 30 or so minutes, you're going to think this is one of the best/better light comedy space adventures evah.

After that, Breton puts on the brakes for a side-trip. It's a fun side-trip. And Rhianna's introduction is dynamite.

Unfortunately, she cannot act at all. Still, fun side trip.

I think the fact that *gasp* the guy saves the girl is what has critics panties in a knot.

Then we head into the climax and -

Brakes on again! For a YUUUUGE info dump of information which we either been presented or can figure out and some SJW-ish prancing and preening.

Then off, we go and the movie wraps up.

If the movie were recut, it would be a classic.

As it is, it's a good fun summer movie that wears out it's welcome toward the end by not trusting its audience.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (9q7Dl)

260 Going back a little further I remember liking some like it hot.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (nBr1j)

261 Daughter and I went to see a Ghostbuster 30 year release. Still held up, still funny and we realized how many lines have found their way into our everyday speech.

"Important safety tip..."

Posted by: Rosasharn at July 22, 2017 08:37 PM (XJYdw)

262 Oh yeah. Forgot "The Jerk".

"He hates these cans! Stay away from the cans!"

"How were you supposed to know that was 'Iron Balls' McGinty?"

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 22, 2017 08:37 PM (w+Jhj)

263 Arsenic and Old Lace, yeah.

"Teddy dear, we got another Yellow Fever victim."

Cary Grant, "I'm the son of the mailman!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:37 PM (678B2)

264 Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:36 PM (xz+89)

Could be because he also seemed to be a very intelligent person.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:38 PM (IDPbH)

265 Oldie but goodie: "Arsenic and Old Lace." Excellent Cary Grant.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (NOIQH)



That's a very good and funny movie. Grant was very good in comedic roles

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:38 PM (auHtY)

266 Strangelove.

You can't tell me that by the end, you're not rooting for Slim Pickins and the guys in the B52.

Posted by: shibumi at July




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPwW7RaPO_g

Posted by: yankeefifth at July 22, 2017 08:38 PM (0wem/)

267 I am a fucking climate genius, and you ignorant ASSHOLES dare to DISAGREE with me??? FUCK YOU. I Would say you deserve to die in the Earth Inferno of global warming, BUT THERE ARE DECENT PEOPLE LIKE ME AND HILLARY AND TOM PEREZ, that will be affected by your EVIL CARBONATING!!! You filth.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:39 PM (/qEW2)

268 Super Troopers, you guys.

'Desperation is a stinky cologne!'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (6FqZa)

269 The Marx Bros.

Especially Groucho.

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (LQLeS)

270 someone mentioned The In-Laws upthread. Very good. Another good one with Arkin: Slums of Beverly Hills.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (H5knJ)

271 I'm not even gonna say how much I adore MST3K. As if it ain't obvious.

MANOS - THE HANDS OF FATE

(movie, maybe the worst ever made - commentary, the most hilarious!)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (V2Yro)

272 Love the 3 mentioned. But -

Young Frankenstein.

I saw it when I was about -- 14? 15? --- with a couple of girlfriends. I had NEVER laughed so hard in my life at a movie.

"... Ovaltine..."

"What else can we throw in the well?"

And the scene where Marty Feldman has his head where all the dead heads are... "Hi!! Ain't got nobody! Ya cha cha cha..."

I think I wet my pants.

Planet of the Apes (new movie)... Amazing CGI. The rest? Meh. Formula. Woody Harrelson phoning in the bad dude. See it at home.

Posted by: exliberal at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (g2eRy)

273 Strange thing is though I like action/adventure/dramas over most comedies my list of films I have watched many times has quite a few comedies in it. Ghostbusters and Galaxy Quest like you have above but also Tremors and Big Trouble in Little China get watched several times a year around here.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (d3wbb)

274 So to circle back around, I went to my Top 100 list on my site and copied down all the comedies that made it. A few kinda crossed genres, like Amelie and wasn't sure if they should be in there but here's what I wrote for posterity:

Airplane
Big Trouble in Little China
Caddyshack
Clue
Ferris Beuller's Day Off
Fletch
Groundhog's Day
Guardians of the Galaxy
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Say Anything...kinda comedy?
The Blues Brothers
The Princess Bride
Three Amigos
Wayne's World
Yambao (Rifftrax.com edition)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:41 PM (xJa6I)

275 You vile shits cannot comprehend the conetmp and hatred I have for you. You PLANET KILLERS!!!

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:41 PM (/qEW2)

276 The look on Alan Arkin's face when The Generalissimo decides to give "Pepe" a drink of water.....

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:41 PM (V2Yro)

277 Oh and Ghostbusters.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:41 PM (xJa6I)

278 The Marx Bros.

Especially Groucho.
Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller


A Day at the Races

A Night at the Opera

Not exactly slapstick, but the Marx Brothers goofing through reality.
And Groucho wise-cracking his way through. Got to think he was ad-libbing half the time.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:42 PM (S6Pax)

279 Keep thinking of it but haven't mentioned that the first attempt at invasion after Dunkirk at Dieppe could make a good movie, well if you like disaster movies.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 08:42 PM (9g/6M)

280 hey Al Gore there is a way you can make your Earthly footprint carbon neutral in very short order.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 08:42 PM (BO/km)

281 Carey Grant hated Arsenic and Old Lace. Thought he was miscast and tried everything to get out of it.
One of the funniest movies I ever saw.

Posted by: abby at July 22, 2017 08:42 PM (HBU7W)

282 I'm not even gonna say how much I adore MST3K. As if it ain't obvious.

MANOS - THE HANDS OF FATE

(movie, maybe the worst ever made - commentary, the most hilarious!)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (V2Yro)


I'm a big fan too

I think 'Mitchell' MIGHT be my favorite, but it's a tough call. The 'Final Sacrifice' is great for all the Canadian jokes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM (xJa6I)

283 Operation Petticoat, "Sighted truck, sank same.:

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM (678B2)

284 276 The look on Alan Arkin's face when The Generalissimo decides to give "Pepe" a drink of water.....
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:41 PM (V2Yro)

LMAO. And his art collection. "If it wasn't for the Church, that flag would be hanging in front of the UN today!"

"General, there are reactionaries everywhere."

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM (ANIFC)

285 Many of my favorites already mentioned....Ruthless People has one scene that is so funny I thought I would break a rib laughing.

Anther gem, but not big laughs, is "The Freshman" with Matthew Broderick and Marlon Brando. Very sweet as well as funny. My hubby loves to do the chef - "Carmine said one boy. Here are two!" And all the ways Broderick says "Vermont" getting ever more defeated that no one will ever bother to learn what state he's from. Love that movie.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM (NOIQH)

286 I never even liked Spencer Tracy but Father of the Bride is so funny.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (2+gSO)

287 Two things:

1) I will not abide a single word of negative criticism of Top Secret! It is ridiculous and therefore perfect.

2) I have always had trouble reconciling that two of my favorite films in this thread -- Spinal Tap and Princess Bride -- were directed by that spinning loon Rob Reiner.

Posted by: Johnny Pedantic at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (6OESk)

288 MST3K: BigMcLargeHuge is my word for a person of unusual size.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (rnAwa)

289 I've thought that much of what PG Wodehouse wrote would be good for big screen comedies.

Romance, slapstick, snappy dialog, ... but it doesn't seem to ever work out that well.

Posted by: bananaDream at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (BHl6T)

290 I didn't know about the Dieppe raid. Yikes, what a fuck up that was.

Still not as bad as Gallipolli in the first war though.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (6FqZa)

291
The 6 Police Squad TV episodes were funnier than any of the Naked Gun movies. IMHO.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM


NaCly Dog Johnson is right!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (IqV8l)

292 Most late Mel Brooks movies are pretty bad, but two that are excellent in my book are-

"Dracula, Dead and Loving It"

and

"The Producers" (the musical).

DDaLI just plain has some great shtick built around all the old Dracula movies and some great slapstick moments.

It gets a lot of hate, but I watch it every time I see it's on cable.


As for "The Producers" musical...

YMMV but I find Nathan Lane hilarious.

He's also very good in another comedy that gets no love "Mouse Hunt".

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 08:45 PM (9q7Dl)

293 I'm not sure how true it is, but I've been told the coffee ordering scene inspired the guy who started Starbucks.

"I'll have a half caf, double decaf with a twist of lemon"

Posted by: MAGA at July 22, 2017 08:17 PM (Tyk2V)


Definitely not true. Starbucks started in 1972. In 1991, they were just starting to hit it big on the west coast.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2017 08:45 PM (17QyB)

294 282 I'm not even gonna say how much I adore MST3K. As if it ain't obvious.

MANOS - THE HANDS OF FATE

(movie, maybe the worst ever made - commentary, the most hilarious!)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 08:40 PM (V2Yro)


I'm a big fan too

I think 'Mitchell' MIGHT be my favorite, but it's a tough call. The 'Final Sacrifice' is great for all the Canadian jokes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM (xJa6I)

"Mitchell!" is my favorite. Maybe it works so well for the reasons TJM stated above - it's not a terrible movie, it has a basic plot & reasonable competent acting. So there's a sound structure to build all the jokes off of.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:45 PM (ANIFC)

295 247 Black comedy nominee: Dr. Strangelove.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (aT+Bx)
===

Dr Stangelove is full of Mel Brooks and Airplane! caliber sarcasm and humor - a few examples:

The "Peace is Our Profession" billboard in the background of some of the scenes of the combat on Burpleson AFB.

The name of the President: Merkin Muffley. How many people in the early Sixties, and now, knew/know what a merkin is?

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (AMIL/)

296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPwW7RaPO_g
----

They had to overdub the city. Originally, he said, "You could have a pretty good time in Dallas with that," but they changed it becuase of Kennedy.

Also...damn you for that link! That led to a Peter Sellers interview, which then led me to a Making of Dr. Strangelove documentary and now I'm watching an interview with Stanley Kubrick.

I should be working!!! Damn!!!

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (aT+Bx)

297 230 The 6 Police Squad TV episodes were funnier than any of the Naked Gun movies. IMHO.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:31 PM (hyuyC)


It is scientific fact with metaphysical certitude, not opinion.

Read this previous comment:



78 Police Squad! was a much better series than the derivative Naked Gun movies,

The series stayed true to the tropes of detective television shows and had the hyper literal type joke of Airplane!, and the characters always went with the gag as a normal part of the show's universe.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 07:48 PM (xz+89)

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (xz+89)

298 What about Bob?

Posted by: Zogger at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (SKahJ)

299 Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau made several comedies together that were really funny.

"The Fortune Cookie"
and of course the classic
"The Odd Couple"

Walter Matthau also made a minor classic that was hilarious called "A New Leaf", where he was a trust fund baby that runs out of money, has no idea how to pay for anything, and sets out to find and marry a really rich woman, and he has no interest in sex.
It's hilarious. He winds up with Elaine May, who plays a completely daffy, eccentric rich woman who is obsessed with horticulture.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (S6Pax)

300 @naturalfake

I had a problem with the casting of Valerian. The guy had the line delivery of Keanu Reeves and the body of Leonardo DiCaprio...and he was kind of a prick. God and some of the dialog! Bleh.

I think the opening prologues were amazing and so were the alien races. Might be worth a re-watch just for that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (xJa6I)

301
The 'Final Sacrifice' is great for all the Canadian jokes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM


And the pipe smoking gravel voiced guy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 08:47 PM (IqV8l)

302 I think 'Mitchell' MIGHT be my favorite, but it's a tough call. The 'Final Sacrifice' is great for all the Canadian jokes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Rowsdower!
https://youtu.be/R6OPyfQxwDM

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:47 PM (5YBu8)

303 'Spinal Tap and Princess Bride -- were directed by that spinning loon Rob Reiner.'

Like separating the musician from the music you have to do that with all art. Quite a corundum eh?

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (BO/km)

304 "Mitchell!" is my favorite. Maybe it works so well for the reasons TJM stated above - it's not a terrible movie, it has a basic plot & reasonable competent acting. So there's a sound structure to build all the jokes off of.
Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:45 PM (ANIFC)

I agree. That's why I like Yambao so much (Rifftrax not MST3k, but more or less the same). The movie itself is solid enough and you can really let yourself go with the jokes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (xJa6I)

305 Black comedies?

Has Madea been mentioned yet?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (smD62)

306 The name of the President: Merkin Muffley. How many people in the early Sixties, and now, knew/know what a merkin is?
---

No one in the sixties.

Now, at the HQ?

LOL. Our discussions can.... go left sometimes. I'm betting most know.

And General Rippers name is officially Jack D. Ripper.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (aT+Bx)

307 Also saw The Silence.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (hMwEB)


You mean the third movie in that trilogy by Ingmar Bergman? Yeoww, I tried to watch it a number of years ago, gave it up after about 20 minutes, it was so repellent.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (OiLIO)

308 Dieppe was supposed to be a probe. It turned into a disaster that saw a Canadian armor unit thoroughly destroyed and gave the Germans a nice little PR victory. With Spitfires doing a Rhubarb you can probe. British infantry tanks on a shale beach, not really.

And the Americans conjured up the idea for a bold strike around the German lines in Italy. It was called Anzio and the bold thrust turned into a grinding war of attrition because the Americans dawdled and failed to quickly expand their beachhead.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (678B2)

309 The Gods must be Crazy

Posted by: Bill sometimes Bill formerly from Canada at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (/j7jO)

310 >>Ghostbusters and Galaxy Quest like you have above but also Tremors and
Big Trouble in Little China get watched several times a year around
here.


Oh yes, love BTiLC and Tremors as much as Galaxy Quest and Ghostbusters, too. Kurt Russell is so great. Overboard is funny, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:48 PM (NOIQH)

311 Many of my favorites already mentioned....Ruthless People has one scene that is so funny I thought I would break a rib laughing.

Anther gem, but not big laughs, is "The Freshman" with Matthew Broderick and Marlon Brando.


Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:43 PM


Ruthless People is gold, all the way through. A Brando gem that is now obscure, Is "Bedtime Story". It's the movie that "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" is a remake of. David Niven and Brando in the leads. It's a forgetten gem... Niven and Brando are a fantastic comedy duo, believe it or not.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 08:49 PM (lmIoG)

312 LOL

ZAP Rowsdower.

There's even a reddit thread called r/owsdower.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:49 PM (xJa6I)

313 300 @naturalfake

I had a problem with the casting of Valerian. The guy had the line delivery of Keanu Reeves and the body of Leonardo DiCaprio...and he was kind of a prick. God and some of the dialog! Bleh.

I think the opening prologues were amazing and so were the alien races. Might be worth a re-watch just for that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (xJa6I



I never like that actor because he looks like he just finished up his 3 day heroin bender.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 08:49 PM (cAnNx)

314 Yeah, the Marx Brothers were awesome. Theirs were the smartest and funniest movies made at that time.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 08:49 PM (sdi6R)

315 "Animal House" it goes without saying.

The idiots in college today seem sad by comparison.

Best line ever, in the background, "We need the dues!".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 08:49 PM (5VlCp)

316 234 boulder terlit hobo

What really stopped the Germans was Hitler's worries about open flanks, the exhaustion of the spearhead troops, and British grit in defense.

One example was the troops that stopped the southern German pincer. Churchill threw in some of his best troops in reserve, The Rifle Brigade, Kings Royal Rifle Corps, and 3 Royal Tank Regiment into Calais. Those troops stopped the Germans just long enough, in a siege even, but very few escaped captivity.

The French had a smaller part. Although their tattered Armies to the South did gave the German General Staff worries. More Germans were killed after Dunkirk fighting the French alone than were killed up to the end of Dunkirk.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:50 PM (hyuyC)

317 A Brando gem that is now obscure, Is "Bedtime Story". It's the movie that "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" is a remake of. David Niven and Brando in the leads. It's a forgetten gem... Niven and Brando are a fantastic comedy duo, believe it or not.
Posted by: otho

I saw that years ago, and it was hilarious. Brando plays his part so deadpan it's incredibly funny.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:50 PM (S6Pax)

318 Two Peter Sellers movies: The Mouse That Roared - not funny, not even amusing, even though critics say otherwise. The Party - very funny.
Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 08:10 PM (2+gSO)


Being There: The Barack Obama Story

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 08:50 PM (s5o+q)

319 And brain-damaged Stork almost steals the whole movie with his only spoken word of dialog: 'what are we s'POSED to do, you moe-ron?!'

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:51 PM (6FqZa)

320 Hmm...black comedies?

I'm Gonna Git You Sucka and Hollywood Shuffle made me laugh.

Lots of early Wayans stuff was good. Undercover Brother had a lot of funny moments.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:52 PM (xJa6I)

321
The Sunshine Boys is a very movie. Walter Matthau steals the movie. He is hysterical

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 08:52 PM (auHtY)

322 246 232 Minuteman

I do agree kinda with that assessment of Top Secret, but some of the gags, like the exploding Pinto, were very good. It is better than Ghostbusters, according to my own idiosyncratic sense of humor and background.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:34 PM (hyuyC)

As Ed McMahon would say:

"You are CORRECT, sir!"

The gags were primo, from the Nutcracker Ballet scene, to the Prison Escape Scene.

The mash up premise of a World War II Special Operation movie along with an Elvis movie was genius.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 08:53 PM (xz+89)

323 And brain-damaged Stork almost steals the whole movie with his only spoken word of dialog: 'what are we s'POSED to do, you moe-ron?!'
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 08:51 PM (6FqZa)

Yup.....a classic.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 08:53 PM (5VlCp)

324 Evening folks. Back from hay, corn, and cow country of NE Ohio. What did I miss?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 22, 2017 08:53 PM (di1hb)

325 I've thought that much of what PG Wodehouse wrote would be good for big screen comedies.

Romance, slapstick, snappy dialog, ... but it doesn't seem to ever work out that well.

Posted by: bananaDream at July 22, 2017 08:44 PM (BHl6T)


Most of Wodehouse's humor comes from the way it's written on the page.

It's hugely artificial, which is okay cuz it's funny as hell. But impossible to make sound natural coming out of human mouths.

Plus, a lot of the funny is in the descriptions of the people and actions. Which would require a narrator. Narrator = not funny.

Genius on the page doesn't always translate to the screen.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 08:53 PM (9q7Dl)

326 I'm Gonna Git You Sucka and Hollywood Shuffle made me laugh.

Lots of early Wayans stuff was good. Undercover Brother had a lot of funny moments.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Don't Be A Menace To South Central While Drinking Your Juice In The Hood.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:53 PM (5YBu8)

327 Rowsey Rowesy Rowsdower used to comment here.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 08:54 PM (BO/km)

328 Slapstick is one thing, even Three Stooges level, but stuff like the Jackass movies just really turns me off.

Posted by: random lurker commenter at July 22, 2017 08:54 PM (/ocGl)

329 I've mentioned before that you have to watch Spinal Tap with the commentary. The band does the commentary in character, it's hilarious.
--

OK, so I have to get the collectors edition, is that what you're saying?

Because honestly, I find that film freaking hysterical.


Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (aT+Bx)


I lived 75% of that movie. Its funny until its not. lol

I am definitely Nigel.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 08:55 PM (aMlLZ)

330 I am definitely Nigel.
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division

Does your amp go to 11?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:56 PM (5YBu8)

331 Comedy premise comedy channel.. I (featured actor) was going to shave my ass but my hairy balls blocked my view.. OK so in study group we discuss camera angle, lighting and background..
Question: does makeup cover prickly heat bumps and hair nubs . Director: I think we got it in one take in the can..(No pun intended)...

Posted by: voter dude at July 22, 2017 08:56 PM (U5Xeq)

332 What, ridden on a horse? You've got two empty 'alves of coconuts and you're bangin em together.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 22, 2017 08:56 PM (O5U4s)

333 For black comedies, "Watermelon Man" was funny for the time. Early 70s.

Godfrey Cambridge had a hell of a day in that one.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 08:57 PM (5VlCp)

334 MST3K and Mitchell. 100+ "I was going to get sticky anyway." LOL

Although Eeegah! holds a special place in my heart. My deceased wife's favorite - "Lookie, lookie, lookie at my thorax!"

Posted by: Looper at July 22, 2017 08:57 PM (7xvrP)

335 I'm Gonna Git You Sucka and Hollywood Shuffle made me laugh.

Lots of early Wayans stuff was good. Undercover Brother had a lot of funny moments.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:52 PM (xJa6I)


I'm gonna git you sucka was some funny ass shit. The whole Rambo scene to pull a splinter, the dude who was armed to the teeth and fell on his ass , chris rock buying the ribs, etc Damn funny.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 08:58 PM (aMlLZ)

336 Strange Brew.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 08:58 PM (v3DL/)

337
ZAP Rowsdower.

There's even a reddit thread called r/owsdower.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:49 PM (xJa6I)

So Rowsdower - is that a stupid name?

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 08:58 PM (ANIFC)

338 What About Bob?


Richard Dreyfus is terrific as Dr. Leo Marvin and Bill Murray is great as the very fearful Bob. Everyone in it is good, even the kid actors. Dreyfus sputters better than almost anyone in the movies.

Posted by: huerfano at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (TO4Og)

339 In 1990, my middle daughter with Downs was in a special ed class in Valley of Encahment (Crestline) Ca. Mrs. Simple and I attended the first PTA meeting, and before it started people kept going up and talking to this large black man. It was Ernie Hudson. It turned out he had two sons (for very mild cerebral palsey) in my daughters class. Because we both had fluid schedules, (he as an actor and I as a self-employed carpenter), we would often be the only parents at certain daytime functions. After one Christmas sing-a-long, the teacher said "I've never heard sing like you and Ernie Hudson." Trust me- it was all Ernie. Not just a great actor, but a great and caring dad.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (w7U7L)

340 Cheesy science fiction movies with rubber monsters are really funny too.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:33 PM (BO/km)


This asshole has been socking me!!! I demand that you ban him!!! He is one of these planet destroying motherf*ckers. I DETEST people like this! He is an evil piece of PLANET DESTROYING garbage! I HATE people like this who want to destroy MARGINALIZED BILLIONS in all zones of the world except for the fucking "united snakes" of America! This country is SO VILE.

Posted by: Al Gore at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (/qEW2)

341 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (xJa6I)

Yeah, the opening dialog between the guy and gal was a bit lame. If I never hear "You're afraid of commitment" in a movie again....well, that will be just fine.

And the info dump-finale was totally unnecessary. Tits on a Boar exposition.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (9q7Dl)

342 Does your amp go to 11?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:56 PM (5YBu


Actually yes. lol

Some company made the repro face plates for the marshal amps that went to 11, sooo....

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (aMlLZ)

343 Although Eeegah! holds a special place in my heart. My deceased wife's favorite - "Lookie, lookie, lookie at my thorax!"

Posted by: Looper

Watch out for snakes!

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (5YBu8)

344 Paul Blart Mall Cop is funny and sweet. Kevin James is great with the slapstic.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (NOIQH)

345 I saw that years ago, and it was hilarious. Brando plays his part so deadpan it's incredibly funny.


Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 08:50 PM


Yep. Brando's "Ruprecht" is way funnier than Steve Martin's... coz it Brando!

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 09:00 PM (lmIoG)

346 332 What, ridden on a horse? You've got two empty 'alves of coconuts and you're bangin em together.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 22, 2017 08:56 PM (O5U4s)

And you have to watch the special edition of "Holy Grail" with the subtitles on. You can either choose dialog from "King Henry IV Part One" or the film translated into Japanese, then back again into English. It is very silly.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:01 PM (ANIFC)

347 When I was a kid there also was a comedy called Scavenger Hunt that I must have seen dozens of times.

I'm almost scared to go back and watch it now.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 09:01 PM (H5knJ)

348 My favorite MST3K moment is during "Pod People."

"Trumpy, no!"

And when Trumpy (who apparently eats **anything**) is examining the Cute Kid's little animal menagerie and Crow as Trumpy describes what kind of potato each of the kids' pets are: (at the rabbit cage) "This potato has long ears . . . "(comes across the hamster: "Ooh, NEW potato."

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:01 PM (s5o+q)

349 338 What About Bob?

Richard Dreyfus is terrific as Dr. Leo Marvin and Bill Murray is great as the very fearful Bob. Everyone in it is good, even the kid actors. Dreyfus sputters better than almost anyone in the movies.

Posted by: huerfano at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (TO4Og)


That was a very funny movie, back when just about anything Bill Murray did was hitting on all cylinders.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 22, 2017 09:01 PM (17QyB)

350 eh, cobs, note the hash /qEW2 I am trying to be satirical, I am not really Al Gore. I apologize if anyone is offended.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2017 09:02 PM (/qEW2)

351 I do enjoy some madcap comedies like Bringing Up Baby, My Man Godfrey, or more recently, Hopscotch with Walter Matthau and Glenda Jackson. I can never decide if Philadelphia Story fits the madcap designation.

Posted by: JTB at July 22, 2017 09:02 PM (V+03K)

352 295 247 Black comedy nominee: Dr. Strangelove.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:35 PM (aT+Bx)
===

Dr Stangelove is full of Mel Brooks and Airplane! caliber sarcasm and humor - a few examples:

The "Peace is Our Profession" billboard in the background of some of the scenes of the combat on Burpleson AFB.

The name of the President: Merkin Muffley. How many people in the early Sixties, and now, knew/know what a merkin is?

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 08:46 PM (AMIL/)

True fact: "Peace is Our Profession" was the motto of the USAF Strategic Air Command. It was at the bottom of all official SAC stationary

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 09:02 PM (xz+89)

353 339 In 1990, my middle daughter with Downs was in a special ed class in Valley of Encahment (Crestline) Ca. Mrs. Simple and I attended the first PTA meeting, and before it started people kept going up and talking to this large black man. It was Ernie Hudson. It turned out he had two sons (for very mild cerebral palsey) in my daughters class. Because we both had fluid schedules, (he as an actor and I as a self-employed carpenter), we would often be the only parents at certain daytime functions. After one Christmas sing-a-long, the teacher said "I've never heard sing like you and Ernie Hudson." Trust me- it was all Ernie. Not just a great actor, but a great and caring dad.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (w7U7L)

That's awesome. A friend of mine had to pick him up from the airport once (long story) and he had the best time just hanging out with him.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:03 PM (ANIFC)

354 Mel brooks wife Ann Bancroft was brilliant in the black comedy Prisoner of second Ave

Posted by: kallisto at July 22, 2017 09:03 PM (7l5V0)

355 Not just a great actor, but a great and caring dad.
Posted by: Charles the Simple

He was also the most underrated part of Ghostbusters.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:03 PM (5YBu8)

356 Minuteman

"War is our hobby" was muttered a lot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:03 PM (hyuyC)

357 My favorite MST3K moment is during "Pod People."


When the stuff starts flying around the room it impossible not to laugh.

Posted by: freaked at July 22, 2017 09:03 PM (BO/km)

358 I thought "Platoon" was one of the funniest movies ever.

Posted by: Lt. Frank Drebin at July 22, 2017 09:04 PM (ANIFC)

359 And no one has mentioned Real Genius???

"Stop playing with yourself Ken!"
"It is you God!"

"I drank what!?"

"I found my number one."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 09:04 PM (678B2)

360 [It feels like a scattershot comedy written by people who knew how to actually parody something specific.]

It seems to me like a movie written by guys who grew up reading Mad Magazine.

Posted by: bour3 at July 22, 2017 09:05 PM (KXQr+)

361 Brooks' "The Inquisition" from "History of the World Part I" and his "Springtime for Hitler" from "The Producers" are both parodies of Broadway showstoppers and are right on the money. Hilarious and irreverent as hell.

----

History to me is lesser than YF, BS and the producers as they each also had plots. HotW is just a bunch of skits strung together.

Posted by: Progressives at July 22, 2017 09:05 PM (vChNs)

362 True fact: "Peace is Our Profession" was the motto of the USAF Strategic Air Command. It was at the bottom of all official SAC stationary
Posted by: Minuteman

Gen LeMay came up with it. When a pajama boy reporter questioned him about it, he said "peace IS our profession, war is what we do for kicks."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:05 PM (5YBu8)

363 History to me is lesser than YF, BS and the producers as they each also had plots. HotW is just a bunch of skits strung together.
Posted by: Progressives at July 22, 2017 09:05 PM (vChNs)


Speaking of skits run together, and definitely not on the top ten list of all-time best comedies but fondly remembered anyway:

Kentucky Fried Movie

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:06 PM (s5o+q)

364 Son N**** the Valiant says that none of his early 20's friends know who Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, or Douglas Fairbanks Jr. are. What has happened to education?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:06 PM (w7U7L)

365 The real classics are funny every time you watch. Lots of movies are one and done. Comady can bore if not good.

Ruthless People, Galaxy Quest, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Blazing Saddles, and Airplane are still funny, after rewatching them numerous times.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:07 PM (hyuyC)

366 Ruthless People, Galaxy Quest, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Blazing Saddles, and Airplane are still funny, after rewatching them numerous times.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

I love Ruthless People
"Are you really the cops?"
"No, we're the National Rifle Association."

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM (5YBu8)

367 They have never been exposed to TCM? or AMC?

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM (gDoff)

368

Another very unfunny movie:

War of the Roses

and Bedazzled

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM (lzrKs)

369 Comedy can bore if not good. FIFM.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM (hyuyC)

370
The Devil movie with Roseanne was terrible.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM (lzrKs)

371
On the other hand, WEIRD SCIENCE is one of the greatest comedies of all time.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:10 PM (lzrKs)

372 I only saw "Ruthless People" once in the theater, I should watch it again.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:10 PM (ANIFC)

373 How about a few James Cagney comedies

"Mr. Roberts", also with Henry Fonda and Jack Lemmon set during WWII on a freighter

"One, Two, Three" with Cagney as a Coca-Cola exec in Berlin in the cold war. Billy Wilder work that reaches ludicrous speed by the end.


Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:10 PM (vChNs)

374
What has happened to education?
Posted by: Charles the Simple


The SmartPhone

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 09:10 PM (IqV8l)

375 They have never been exposed to TCM? or AMC?


Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM


There are now young adults that have never seen Alien... or even Pulp Fiction, FFS. Didn't think it was possible.

Posted by: otho at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (lmIoG)

376
John Candy as the detective was hilarious. I forget the title.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (lzrKs)

377 348 My favorite MST3K moment is during "Pod People."

"Trumpy, no!"

And when Trumpy (who apparently eats **anything**) is examining the Cute Kid's little animal menagerie and Crow as Trumpy describes what kind of potato each of the kids' pets are: (at the rabbit cage) "This potato has long ears . . . "(comes across the hamster: "Ooh, NEW potato."
Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:01 PM (s5o+q)

A CLASSIC!!!

As is "Sidehackers", which is actually a thing is SoCal.

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (xz+89)

378 364 Son N**** the Valiant says that none of his early 20's friends know who Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, or Douglas Fairbanks Jr. are. What has happened to education?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:06 PM (w7U7L)
===

Sad, very sad. Jimmy Stewart is deadpan comedy gold in "Destry Rides Again." Cary Grant is great in everything he did. Good slapstick-type stuff in "Gunga Din," and a good deadpan job as-needed in "North by Northwest."

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

379 Kentucky Fried Movie
Posted by: filbert

Amazon Women on the Moon

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (S6Pax)

380 John Candy as the detective was hilarious. I forget the title.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered

Who is Harry Crumb?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:12 PM (5YBu8)

381 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

/mic drop

(i'm guessing at the # of "mads")

Posted by: redc1c4 at July 22, 2017 09:12 PM (pJeub)

382
Who is Harry Crumb?

I dunno. Who?

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:12 PM (lzrKs)

383 356 Minuteman

"War is our hobby" was muttered a lot.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:03 PM (hyuyC)

And

"To Err is Human, to Forgive is not SAC Policy"

Posted by: Minuteman at July 22, 2017 09:12 PM (xz+89)

384 Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

Ruthless People is a great couples movie, and almost every scene was good. The plot was taken from O'Henry's story The Ransom of Red Chief, ISTR.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:12 PM (hyuyC)

385 Kentucky Fried Movie
Posted by: filbert

Amazon Women on the Moon
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (S6Pax)


KFM was the movie Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker made before "Airplane!" and the movie Landis directed before "Animal House."

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:13 PM (s5o+q)

386 Cary Grant is great in everything he did. Good slapstick-type stuff in "Gunga Din," and a good deadpan job as-needed in "North by Northwest."
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

"They tried to kill me with bourbon & a sports car!"

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:13 PM (ANIFC)

387 Kentucky Fried Movie

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:06 PM (s5o+q)


Cleopatra Schwartz. Funnier than hell

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:13 PM (auHtY)

388 "One, Two, Three" with Cagney as a Coca-Cola exec in Berlin in the cold war. Billy Wilder work that reaches ludicrous speed by the end.


Posted by: Buzzsaw90

What a forgotten classic. What a funny movie running at top speed.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 09:13 PM (S6Pax)

389 >>...none of his early 20's friends know who Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Cary
Grant, Errol Flynn, or Douglas Fairbanks Jr. are. What has happened to
education?

One problem I've had in attempting to get the kid to watch older movies is the pacing - things can go slower than current movies and videos.Trained kids to have a short attention span.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM (NOIQH)

390 Because you're "The Horde" tm, I trust you all know that Jimmy Stewart was one of the very few in WWII who went from private to Colonel in 4 years. And ended up a Brig. General, even flying missions in Vietnam.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM (w7U7L)

391 386 Cary Grant is great in everything he did. Good slapstick-type stuff in "Gunga Din," and a good deadpan job as-needed in "North by Northwest."
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

+++

He really was good in everything.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 09:15 PM (2+gSO)

392
Another very unfunny movie:

War of the Roses

---


it was supposed to be a comedy?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:15 PM (vChNs)

393 Loved Jimmy Stewart, Katherine Hepburn and Cary Grant in "Philadelphia Story".

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:15 PM (NOIQH)

394 342 Does your amp go to 11?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 08:56 PM (5YBu


Actually yes. lol

Some company made the repro face plates for the marshal amps that went to 11, sooo....
Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at July 22, 2017 08:59 PM (aMlLZ)


LOL. Perfect.

Life imitates art, which imitates life, which imitates art...

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 09:15 PM (sdi6R)

395 and Bedazzled

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:09 PM (lzrKs)



What terrible sins I have working for me. I suppose it's the wages.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:15 PM (auHtY)

396 Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM (w7U7L)

Raises hand. Knew that.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 09:16 PM (2+gSO)

397 "One, Two, Three" with Cagney as a Coca-Cola exec in Berlin in the cold war. Billy Wilder work that reaches ludicrous speed by the end.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:10 PM (vChNs)


It became so hectic that Cagney burned out and basically quite movie making after that film.

Posted by: The Cinematic Hat at July 22, 2017 09:16 PM (vBeA5)

398
One problem I've had in attempting to get the kid to watch older movies is the pacing - things can go slower than current movies and videos.Trained kids to have a short attention span.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM


Some people refuse to watch black and white movies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 09:16 PM (IqV8l)

399
Jimmy Stewart and Col Potter were in a movie with that wacky Convair B-36 plane.

"six turning, four burning"

it had 6 props, and 4 small jet engines

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:17 PM (lzrKs)

400 >>It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.

/mic drop

(i'm guessing at the # of "mads")


Posted by: redc1c4

It's 4. Hilarious movie.

Posted by: Aviator at July 22, 2017 09:17 PM (/Nite)

401 The Second "Bedazzled" was horrible. The first "Bedazzled", with a young Dudley Moore, and Raquel Welch guest starring as "Lust", was absolutely brilliant.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:17 PM (V2Yro)

402 Meet the Parents is a genre of comedy I just don't cotton to. Terrible things happen to decent person evokes feelings of sympathy for me such that I don't want to laugh at them.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:18 PM (vChNs)

403 And when Trumpy (who apparently eats **anything**) is examining the Cute Kid's little animal menagerie and Crow as Trumpy describes what kind of potato each of the kids' pets are: (at the rabbit cage) "This potato has long ears . . . "(comes across the hamster: "Ooh, NEW potato."

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:01 PM (s5o+q)


"Wing-ed potato..."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 09:18 PM (OiLIO)

404 Also saw "War For the Planet of the Apes" this week.

Meh.

Not really a war...more like Ape Slavery on the Old Human Plantation.

It's part of the Great Shambling Culture Zombie of the Never-to-Exist Hillary! Presidency.

How so? Let me number the ways:

1) The cowardly, traitorous ape is.....White!

An albino ape named "Winter". Damn Snow People even show up in Ape Paradise

2) Soldeirs are equated with "Bad People" several time thru dialog.

3) The Star Spangled Banner in used as an Ape Whipping, Beating, Forcing into Slavery music video

4) Caesar tears down the Burning Stars and Stripes as part of defeating the humans


On the positive side, Jewish People get a shout out as Caesar like Moses never gets to enter the Promised Land. But, he does get to float up to heaven as heavenly music plays. Yes, really. That's the implication.

Great CGI as usual. Storyline you can predict.
Zombie Hillary! anti-American nonsense.

If the is the sort of thing you like, you will like it.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 09:18 PM (9q7Dl)

405 392
Another very unfunny movie:

War of the Roses

---


it was supposed to be a comedy?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:15 PM (vChNs)

News to me

Posted by: Zombie Prince Edward of Lancaster at July 22, 2017 09:18 PM (ANIFC)

406 298 What about Bob?

I'm fine. Thanks for asking.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 22, 2017 09:18 PM (7oUUT)

407 >>Life imitates art, which imitates life, which imitates art...


Oooh, "Office Space!" I have a red swingline stapler they started making after the movie.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (NOIQH)

408 OK, not a comedy, but I'm currently obsessed with Watchmen. I have a new interpretation. It's a mediation on the philosophical shields we use to deflect the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

Edward Blake/the Comedian is a nihilist. His philosophy eventually fails him, not because he is murdered but because he breaks down and cries to Moloch when he discovers the depth of the plan to save the world.

Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias is a Nietzechean superman fit to rule the fate of the sheep. Although ambiguous, his philosophy also apparently fails him when his deception is revealed and his image of a super intelligent and moral being is shattered.

Jon Ksterman/Dr. Manhattan is a rationalist unconcerned with human. His philosophy fails him in that he must exile himself from all human contact.

Walter Kovacks/Rohrschach is something of a Descartesean with a belief in the moral imperative. Truth is truth, right is right, and wrong is wrong regardless of who gets hurt. His philosophy fails him in that he eventually chooses to allow Jon to kill him rather than to compromise.

Dan Dreiberg/Nite Owl and Laurel Jupiter/Silk Spectre are everyman/woman who suffer the aforementioned slings and arrows but roll with the punches and face life courageously and optimistically. It works for them.

Sally Jupiter is a slug and it works for her.

(This post may be a cry for help.)

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (Nwg0u)

409 "A New Leaf" - glad someone mentioned it, few know about it or have seen it.

Elaine May starred in it because Elaine May wrote it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (V2Yro)

410 One problem I've had in attempting to get the kid to watch older movies is the pacing - things can go slower than current movies and videos.Trained kids to have a short attention span.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM (NOIQH)


Exactly. Everything's an action movie nowadays, so the old stuff is boring.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (OiLIO)

411 Oh, and Jimmy Stewart was promoted posthumously to Major General, as George Washington was to 5 star rank.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (w7U7L)

412 ...and Bedazzled

Posted by: Soothsayer

The original "Bedazzled" with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore was pretty funny,

The remake. Meh.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....outlaw in America at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (S6Pax)

413 Has anyone mentioned "Arthur" yet?

"How wonderful to see you."
"I wish somebody I knew thought that. Ahahahaha"

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:20 PM (5YBu8)

414 386 Cary Grant is great in everything he did. Good slapstick-type stuff in "Gunga Din," and a good deadpan job as-needed in "North by Northwest."
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

"They tried to kill me with bourbon & a sports car!"

---

Arsenic and Old Lace. I need to count how many double-takes he has in 90 minutes

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:20 PM (vChNs)

415 263 Arsenic and Old Lace, yeah.

"Teddy dear, we got another Yellow Fever victim."

Cary Grant, "I'm the son of the mailman!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 22, 2017 08:37 PM (678B2)

---

WORD

Posted by: John Katshit at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (vChNs)

416 399
Jimmy Stewart and Col Potter were in a movie with that wacky Convair B-36 plane.

"six turning, four burning"

it had 6 props, and 4 small jet engines
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:17 PM (lzrKs)


B-36 pr0n

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGjyH2ulsCk

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (sdi6R)

417 Cagney was really short

Posted by: kallisto at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (7l5V0)

418 "A New Leaf" might not be my FAVORITE movie ever, but it's way up there. I MAKE people watch it when it comes on. Was Walter Matthau ever that young...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (w7U7L)

419 Son N**** the Valiant says that none of his early 20's friends know who Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Cary Grant, Errol Flynn, or Douglas Fairbanks Jr. are. What has happened to education?

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:06 PM (w7U7L)



Destroy the past so that all that exists for them is today's narrative.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (auHtY)

420 *wanders in*

http://bit.ly/2tqgntc


*wanders out*

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 22, 2017 09:22 PM (dEQP3)

421 The Second "Bedazzled" was horrible. The first "Bedazzled", with a young Dudley Moore, and Raquel Welch guest starring as "Lust", was absolutely brilliant.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:17 PM (V2Yro)



I liked both of them.

Some of the first version's sin sequences are great but clearly some of Version two's are better.

Both are good for laughs.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 09:22 PM (9q7Dl)

422 "I'm the son of a sea-cook."

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:22 PM (w7U7L)

423
"They tried to kill me with bourbon & a sports car!"


♫They tried to kill me with a fork lift♫

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 09:24 PM (IqV8l)

424 Kentucky Fried Movie

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:06 PM (s5o+q)

Cleopatra Schwartz. Funnier than hell

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:13 PM (auHtY)


I can't bring myself to watch that movie anymore because of a throw-away joke at the beginning of that skit.

It was near the beginning of that stectch, where we see a little White girl in bed with a grinning Black man and the voice-over says "More offensive than Mandingo".

It turns out that that scene was in reference not just to the film "Mandingo", but also a far more infamous film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maladolescenza

It turns out the starlet (Eva Ionesco), had a messed-up upbringing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Ionesco

Posted by: The Shuddering Hat at July 22, 2017 09:24 PM (vBeA5)

425 Oh, and Jimmy Stewart was promoted posthumously to Major General, as George Washington was to 5 star rank.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:19 PM (w7U7L)


Did not know that. Nice!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (gwPgz)

426 402 - I mostly agree.

I also hate that one because of Ben Stiller. With the exception of Zoolander, I generally find him very unfunny.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (H5knJ)

427 Douglas Fairbanks Jr. was military intelligence in WWII, an N**** the Valiant is now. He quit acting after the war because he couldn't pretend anymore.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (w7U7L)

428 Cary Grant is great in everything he did. Good slapstick-type stuff

-
Bringing Up Baby with Katharine Hepburn is hilarious.

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (Nwg0u)

429 The Guard, Irish Cop, Black FBI agent. Funny as hell because it's not PC

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (dKiJG)

430 212 Also... Blades of Glory was pretty effing hysterical,.....
Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 08:28 PM (aT+Bx)
-------------------------
Heh. I laughed my patoot off at that one.
But I would never admit it publicly, not even while using a fake name on a fine military blog.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (0jtPF)

431 383 Minuteman

I agree that SAC had a lot of hard-nosed SOBs in charge, but they sure did a good job. They had great élan. The AF missed that ethos when SAC went away. I hear they are trying to bring SAC-light back to light.

390 Charles the Simple

Raises hand. Knew that.

The movie Strategic Air Command was in no way a comedy. But the B-36 looked awesome in flight. ISTR the nickname was the "aluminum overcast". It was huge at the SAC Museum outside Omaha.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:25 PM (hyuyC)

432 "One, Two, Three" with Cagney as a Coca-Cola exec in Berlin in the cold war. Billy Wilder work that reaches ludicrous speed by the end.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 22, 2017 09:10 PM (vChNs)



A very funny movie and if I remember correctly they took a number of shots (humor wise) at the commies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:26 PM (auHtY)

433 *waves to alex*

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (sdi6R)

434 263 "Charge!"

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (w7U7L)

435 Destroy the past so that all that exists for them is today's narrative.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (auHtY)


We're fast approaching

Destroy even yesterday's past so that all that exists for them is today's narrative.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (gwPgz)

436 Some of the first version's sin sequences are great but clearly some of Version two's are better.

Both are good for laughs.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 09:22 PM (9q7Dl)

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best part of the remake was him speaking spanish

Posted by: John Katshit at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (vChNs)

437
The movie Strategic Air Command was in no way a comedy.

But the hilarious Col Potter is in it...

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (lzrKs)

438 Kentucky Fried Movie

The skit Gandhi II, No More Nice Guy is extremely funny.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (hyuyC)

439 best part of the remake was him speaking spanish
Posted by: John Katshit

Actually the best part was Brendan Fraser as the pajamaboy that cries over everything.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:29 PM (5YBu8)

440 NaCly Dog, the nickname is magnesium overcast, because a lot of the skin panels were magnesium alloy instead of aluminum alloy, to save weight. The dull silver/gray panels are the magnesium ones.

Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:29 PM (AMIL/)

441 Saw Dunkirk this afternoon. Wonderful movie. Really great performances, especially Mark Rylance and Tom Hardy and the young actor who plays the stranded British soldier. Great performances with very little dialogue. The British are masters of acting with the eyes and with facial expressions.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 09:29 PM (jm1YL)

442 Kentucky Fried Movie will live forever if only for the "Take him to Detroit!" scene.

It was 1977. Who would have thought that Detroit would only get worse over the next 40 years.

Thanks democrat voters!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 09:30 PM (5VlCp)

443 Here it is
https://youtu.be/TVmCwmC5-kQ

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 22, 2017 09:30 PM (5YBu8)

444 440 Gref

Thanks!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:30 PM (hyuyC)

445 The "Flight of the Phoenix" starred Jimmy Stewart as the pilot of an after-war B-24 that went down in Africa. What I didn't know as a 10 or something year old, was that Gen. Stewart flew 25+ missions in that plane. I just thought it was some old coot play-acting.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:30 PM (w7U7L)

446 best part of the remake was him speaking spanish


Posted by: John Katshit at July 22, 2017 09:27 PM (vChNs)



Elizabeth Hurley in skimpy outfits.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 09:31 PM (cAnNx)

447 Cagney was really short

Posted by: kallisto at July 22, 2017 09:21 PM (7l5V0)




Humphrey Bogart: He didn't look short to me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:32 PM (auHtY)

448 440 NaCly Dog, the nickname is magnesium overcast, because a lot of the skin panels were magnesium alloy instead of aluminum alloy, to save weight. The dull silver/gray panels are the magnesium ones.
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:29 PM (AMIL/)


Indeed.

https://tinyurl.com/y9ost4lc

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 09:32 PM (sdi6R)

449 322 246 232 Minuteman

I do agree kinda with that assessment of Top Secret, but some of the gags, like the exploding Pinto, were very good. It is better than Ghostbusters, according to my own idiosyncratic sense of humor and background.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 08:34 PM (hyuyC)

As Ed McMahon would say:

"You are CORRECT, sir!"

The gags were primo, from the Nutcracker Ballet scene, to the Prison Escape Scene.

The mash up premise of a World War II Special Operation movie along with an Elvis movie was genius.
Posted by: Minuteman


I loved the visual gag of what we thought was a telephone in the foreground very close to the camera was actually a giant telephone

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 22, 2017 09:33 PM (di1hb)

450 >>Here it is

https://youtu.be/TVmCwmC5-kQ

The smooth, uber-sophisticated one is funny too - watching it dawn on him that he's gay.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:33 PM (NOIQH)

451 Anyone mention the Exorcist yet?

Because I've seen it about a hundred and sixty-seven times, and it keeps getting funnier every single time I see it.

Posted by: Beetlejuice at July 22, 2017 09:33 PM (v3DL/)

452 "Cary Grant is great in everything he did. Good slapstick-type stuff "

"My Favorite Wife" and "The Awful Truth" both with Irene Dunne are very funny.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 09:33 PM (jm1YL)

453
I loved the visual gag of what we thought was a telephone in the foreground very close to the camera was actually a giant telephone
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 22, 2017 09:33 PM


Peter Cushing's big eye through the magnifying glass.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 09:34 PM (IqV8l)

454 440 NaCly Dog, the nickname is magnesium overcast, because a lot of the skin panels were magnesium alloy instead of aluminum alloy, to save weight. The dull silver/gray panels are the magnesium ones.
Posted by: Gref at July 22, 2017 09:29 PM (AMIL/)

They made one all jet version with swept wings, the YB-60.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:34 PM (ANIFC)

455 I've mentioned it before but-

a good horror-comedy that gets both parts right is

"The Revenant".


No, not the bear rape Revenant.

The back from the dead Zombie/vampire Revenant.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 22, 2017 09:34 PM (9q7Dl)

456 One problem I've had in attempting to get the kid to watch older movies is the pacing - things can go slower than current movies and videos.Trained kids to have a short attention span.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM (NOIQH)



Years ago I worked with a guy (in his 20s) who said couldn't watch black and white movies. Then he saw The Third Man and he said it was like his eyes opened to movies and he became a complete classic movies fan. And that's exactly what he said, The pacing of older movies is different and there is story development that he just wasn't used to

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:35 PM (auHtY)

457 Cary Grant with Myrna Loy in the one where they decide to build a new house is pretty funny.

Posted by: dantesed at July 22, 2017 09:35 PM (88xKn)

458 Cary Grant (no individual Oscars tm) is the greatest actor who ever lived. And he knew when to quit- even though I'd like to have seen what he'd do in his OLDER age.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:36 PM (w7U7L)

459 445 The "Flight of the Phoenix" starred Jimmy Stewart as the pilot of an after-war B-24 that went down in Africa. What I didn't know as a 10 or something year old, was that Gen. Stewart flew 25+ missions in that plane. I just thought it was some old coot play-acting.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:30 PM (w7U7L)

I like the trivia that they were flying to Benghazi.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 09:37 PM (IDPbH)

460 Jackie Chan's early action films, me and my brother had a depressing night and USA had a marathon of his movies. It was much needed medicine, and seeing the outtakes made me respect him.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 09:38 PM (dKiJG)

461 Cary Grant with Myrna Loy in the one where they decide to build a new house is pretty funny.

Posted by: dantesed at July 22, 2017 09:35 PM (88xKn)


I love that movie. Can't remember the name.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 09:38 PM (gDoff)

462 @Anonosaurus Wrecks

Good analysis.

Watchmen, even the Zach Snyder version, is a fun deconstruction of superheros. However, it opened the floodgates to a lot of other comics that did not do it so well.

You have to construct first, before you can deconstruct. I don't think Warner/DC movies understands that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 09:38 PM (xJa6I)

463 Rifftrax.com is having a sale this weekend - 20% off everything (they usually only do 15%) with the code ELEVEN

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:38 PM (ANIFC)

464 Cary Grant with Myrna Loy in the one where they decide to build a new house is pretty funny.

Posted by: dantesed at July 22, 2017 09:35 PM (88xKn)


I love that movie. Can't remember the name.
Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 09:38 PM (gDoff)


Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (auHtY)

465 Also, I love the old Bob Hope and Bing Crosby "Road" pictures.

Also, Hope had a great one with "The Ghost Breakers".

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (v3DL/)

466 naturalfake, that's a good one; I'd forgotten all about The Revenant.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (H5knJ)

467 Hot Tub Time Machine had me literally falling out of the chair laughing.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (7KFPB)

468 Barbara Stanwyck starred in 2 of my favorite comedies: "The Lady Eve" with Henry Fonda and "Ball of Fire" with Gary Cooper.

Another classic comedy from that era is "The Man Who Came to Dinner" with Bette Davis, Ann Sheridan and Monty Woolly. The supporting cast is as funny as the stars. It's one of the movies I watch every Christmas.

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (jm1YL)

469 "Anything With Billy Crystal In It "


I crap bigger than you.

Posted by: Jack P at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (P7ulB)

470 Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House." I'm one of those contractors in that movie. I'll not say which...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:40 PM (w7U7L)

471
Anyone mention LA Story and Fish Called Wanda yet?

Posted by: Goldilocks at July 22, 2017 09:40 PM (zz1sH)

472 467 Hot Tub Time Machine had me literally falling out of the chair laughing.

Posted by: blaster at July 22, 2017 09:39 PM (7KFPB)



Watch the second one. That should help keep you in your seat.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 09:40 PM (cAnNx)

473 If we're discussing black and white comedy films, I confess I have a fondness for W C Fields films, surprised he didn't get a mention!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 22, 2017 09:41 PM (gwPgz)

474
Another funny Cary Grant movie is Bachelor and the Bobbie Soxer. A teenage Shirley Temple has a crush on Cary because he's older and more sophisticated than the high school boys. There's a scene in a malt shop where she's planning their future and Grant is mumbling to himself. Very funny

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:41 PM (auHtY)

475 The Room. Watching with Friends and family is the best.








Oh Hi Mark.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 09:41 PM (dKiJG)

476 459 445 The "Flight of the Phoenix" starred Jimmy Stewart as the pilot of an after-war B-24 that went down in Africa. What I didn't know as a 10 or something year old, was that Gen. Stewart flew 25+ missions in that plane. I just thought it was some old coot play-acting.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:30 PM (w7U7L)

I like the trivia that they were flying to Benghazi.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 09:37 PM (IDPbH)


A couple of things:

The plane in the movie was not a B-24 but a Fairchild C-119 Flying Boxcar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_C-119_Flying_Boxcar

There really was a B-24 that crashed in the Libyan desert trying to fly to Benghazi in 1943, the Lady Be Good.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Be_Good_(aircraft)

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (sdi6R)

477 A Fish Called Wanda was funny. Once.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (hyuyC)

478 Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House." I'm one of those contractors in that movie. I'll not say which...

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:40 PM (w7U7L)

Heh, the contractors cracked me up. They could spot a mark a mile away.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (gDoff)

479 Mr. Blandings - kind of a prequel, or at least inspiration for, The Money Pit.

as someone who has redone several older residences, I love/hate both. Too close to real, too close to real.

(I know someone who actually did jump off a ladder, about 4 steps up, and went straight through the floor)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (V2Yro)

480 One problem I've had in attempting to get the kid to watch older movies is the pacing - things can go slower than current movies and videos.Trained kids to have a short attention span.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:14 PM (NOIQH)
*******************

Huh?

Posted by: Barney Millennial at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (P7ulB)

481 A very funny movie and if I remember correctly they took a number of shots (humor wise) at the commies
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 09:26 PM (auHtY)

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another movie they'd never make today

Posted by: John Katshit at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (vChNs)

482 And Singin in the Rain is one of my all time favorite movies and hilarious. "I love you I love you I love you..."

Posted by: Goldilocks at July 22, 2017 09:42 PM (zz1sH)

483 a quick scene with Bob Hope from "The Ghost Breakers."


www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sX10_4

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (v3DL/)

484 Cary Grant made it look too easy. Maybe if he's stuffed his cheeks with marbles like Orson Welles he's have been respected.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (w7U7L)

485 Love Love the Marx Brothers.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (dKiJG)

486 http://bit.ly/2tqgntc
*wanders out*

Posted by: alexthechick - happy happy manatees at July 22, 2017 09:22 PM (dEQP3)


I laffed.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (OiLIO)

487 A Fish Called Wanda was funny. Once.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Once.

Posted by: Danny Vermin at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (5YBu8)

488 Raising Arizona
Naked Gun
Life of Brian
Dr Strangelove
Ms Doubtfire
Early Woody Allen (Zelig is a masterpiece.)
Errand Boy
Spinal Tap

Posted by: PaddyO' at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (Bbw58)

489 Forgive me if someone's already mentioned these, but I came straight to the bottom to say this: what about all the Looney Tunes cartoons? I know they're not 'movies' in the true sense of the word, but I could sure watch 2-4 hours of those things without breaking a sweat, and love every minute of it. And almost all of them had a true narrative, a very active plot, and a satisfying end.

Posted by: big sarge at July 22, 2017 09:44 PM (jQ2oO)

490 >>Anyone mention LA Story and Fish Called Wanda yet?

Yep

Posted by: Lizzy at July 22, 2017 09:44 PM (NOIQH)

491 Honestly I'm not even sure The Watchmen wholly deconstructs superheroes. Well, okay, it deconstructs the Superman, Dr Manhattan. Which is why we have the niffins in the Magicians books and series . . .

It doesn't deconstruct the masked vigilante though. Rorschach wins.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:44 PM (6FqZa)

492 Best Dark Christmas Comedy - "The Ref" with Dennis Leary.

Best Thanksgiving Comedy - "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:45 PM (V2Yro)

493 My biggest problem with Ghostbusters is what is pretty much universally praised: Bill Murray.

Other than the bit where he gets slimed, Murray never seems to be "in" the movie. He seems to be "aside" the movie, elbowing it every now and then, making snarky comments, and so on.

He's like a very early version of MST3K.

Also, L,Elle is cool and should be reinstated.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 22, 2017 09:47 PM (MZcWR)

494 Alan Moore refuting superheroes is like John Milton refuting Satan.

Deep down, they admire the other side.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:47 PM (6FqZa)

495 Honestly I'm not even sure The Watchmen wholly deconstructs superheroes. Well, okay, it deconstructs the Superman, Dr Manhattan. Which is why we have the niffins in the Magicians books and series . . .

It doesn't deconstruct the masked vigilante though. Rorschach wins.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:44 PM (6FqZa)



---

I think Alan Moore's biggest failure with "Watchmen" is that just about everyone I know thought that Rorshach was the best character.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 09:47 PM (v3DL/)

496 Uh, oh.

Posted by: the chicken at July 22, 2017 09:47 PM (6FqZa)

497 "Love Love the Marx Brothers."

"A Night at the Opera" The "stateroom" scene is worth the price of admission

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 09:48 PM (jm1YL)

498 Love Love the Marx Brothers.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 09:43 PM (dKiJG)


Horse Feathers: I'm Against It

https://youtu.be/WmXHLHVTjRc

Posted by: filbert at July 22, 2017 09:48 PM (s5o+q)

499 Bartender, has Mr Michael Finn been here recently?

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 22, 2017 09:48 PM (gwPgz)

500 Randall, every fucking word Kovacs growls in that movie is gold.

"Justice matters."

"I'll whisper... 'no'."

"Not in front of the civilians."

I'm leaving out a lot.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:49 PM (6FqZa)

501 Rickl- Because I'm curious and like to know things- what is the difference between a B-24 and a "Flying Boxcar"? because I'd really like to know, as opposed to being snarky.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:49 PM (w7U7L)

502 I must admit that Roman Polanski's Fearless Vampire Killers had me in stitches --- well, if you forget what happened to Sharon Tate and what we now know about Polanski.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 22, 2017 09:50 PM (0jtPF)

503 "Other than the bit where he gets slimed, Murray never seems to be "in" the movie. He seems to be "aside" the movie, elbowing it every now and then, making snarky comments, and so on.

He's like a very early version of MST3K. "

You're a good observer, that's very accurate. The script was very incomplete, almost none of Murray's lines were written ahead of time, and he was told he could ad-lib whatever he thought would fit the scene and the action.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:50 PM (V2Yro)

504 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:45 PM (V2Yro)

Uncle Buck should have gotten an Academy Award.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 09:50 PM (IDPbH)

505 I am watching the original "Alien."

Laughing at the tiny monitors and keyboards and shitty computer displays.

But hey. It was 1979.


Posted by: JAS at July 22, 2017 09:51 PM (UnDQI)

506 I've said that Kingsman: The Secret Service is to James Bond movies as GalaxyQuest is to Star Trek movies. Not so much a parody as a loving tribute.

Posted by: Jenos Idanian at July 22, 2017 09:51 PM (Qf0BO)

507 C-119

Posted by: gNewt at July 22, 2017 09:51 PM (P7ulB)

508 I bought the 4 hour deluxe version of "The Watchmen" which has the pirate comic interwoven through out, like the comic. Still haven't watched it.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (ANIFC)

509 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 09:45 PM (V2Yro)
Uncle Buck should have gotten an Academy Award.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 09:50 PM (IDPbH)

Yup....great movie!

"We're gonna win some dough....some serious dough."

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (5VlCp)

510 Nood.

ONT

Posted by: The Firsting Hat at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (vBeA5)

511 JAS: the game Alien: Isolation did a great job reinstating the 1970s vibe. Pity about that pacing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (6FqZa)

512 They turned the C-119 into a gunship in Vietnam, the AC-119 Stinger/Shadow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_AC-119

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:53 PM (ANIFC)

513
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (5VlCp)

Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face! Good day to you, madam.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (IDPbH)

514 I've never really liked The Ref; don't hate it, just don't get its appeal. For Christmas, I like Bad Santa. I find it weirdly relatable.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (H5knJ)

515 I'm looking for a seriously funny, drinking movie. Any ideas?

Posted by: Drunkirk at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (Y+cHU)

516 "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" was funny.

As a bonus, it worked tine travel into the story better than any other movie, ever.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (zkGZ8)

517 Charles the Simple -- a C-119 Flying Boxcar was a twin-engine cargo plane that had its engines on pylons like the P-38 Lightning. The Liberator was a four-engine bomber that had a fairly conventional body, but a twin tail.

And the Liberator was much bigger.

Posted by: Jenos Idanian at July 22, 2017 09:54 PM (Qf0BO)

518 We at the FBI have no sense of humor that we are aware of.

Posted by: Smith, Ironi Smith at July 22, 2017 09:55 PM (m9X4Y)

519 "It Happened One Night" with Clark Gable and Claudette Colbert still funny after all these years.



Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 09:55 PM (jm1YL)

520 492: The Ref - great, great movie. Dennis Leary played that just right; you just knew he wanted to kill those people. "Would you two knock it off - it feels like I kidnapped my parents!" Perfect.

I've noticed the Cary Grant references. One of the greatest actors, ever. His comedic timing was impeccable. I'd watch any of his films, anytime.

Posted by: big sarge at July 22, 2017 09:55 PM (jQ2oO)

521 "It's so funny that when I first saw the movie with my mother in theaters, she was nearly rolling in the aisle with laughter."

I had to look and see if my son wrote this post...

Posted by: Ann at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM (jtHQy)

522 I bought the 4 hour deluxe version of "The Watchmen" which has the pirate comic interwoven through out, like the comic. Still haven't watched it.

Posted by: josephistan at July 22, 2017 09:52 PM (ANIFC)



---

Man, I think that cutting between live action and animation would be distracting as all get out. I did buy the director's cut Blu-ray, however.

Also have the motion comic dvd. It could have been great but they had one man do everyone's voice, even the female characters.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 22, 2017 09:56 PM (v3DL/)

523 I always enjoyed Don knots and Tim Conway movies.
The Prize Fighter, making fun of Rocky
Private Eyes

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 22, 2017 09:58 PM (dKiJG)

524 Bringing Up Baby.
I still, after my whole 60 years of life, laugh until my eyes water at the two of them singing in harmony while the leopard on the psychiatrist's roof howls, and George the terrier yaps

Posted by: barbarausa at July 22, 2017 09:58 PM (Elk67)

525 501 Rickl- Because I'm curious and like to know things- what is the difference between a B-24 and a "Flying Boxcar"? because I'd really like to know, as opposed to being snarky.
Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 09:49 PM (w7U7L)


Sorry, Charles. I didn't mean to be snarky at all. See the Wiki links in my #476 comment.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 10:00 PM (sdi6R)

526 I agree that colleges should get rid of algebra.

(Keep it in 9th grade where it belongs.)

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 10:02 PM (zkGZ8)

527 Holy crap, I reverse-willowed myself.

Posted by: FireHorse at July 22, 2017 10:03 PM (zkGZ8)

528 Re: The Ref

You "get it" if you have relatives that you hate, but that you still have to put up with on holidays.

Maybe that gave it less than universal appeal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 22, 2017 10:07 PM (V2Yro)

529 I've said that Kingsman: The Secret Service is to James Bond movies as GalaxyQuest is to Star Trek movies. Not so much a parody as a loving tribute.

-
Kingsman meets Archer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFZkoNJ3DxE

Posted by: I'm Anonosaurus Wrecks and I approved this message at July 22, 2017 10:09 PM (Nwg0u)

530 cary grant and constance bennet in the Topper series. Though IMO grant was upstaged by the Brit who played Cosmo Topper. Eric Blore was another great character actor from the Hollywood British colony.

Posted by: kallisto at July 22, 2017 10:09 PM (7l5V0)

531 I'm late, and I'd be surprised if they haven't been mentioned already, BUT:

Austin Powers
Ace Ventura
Happy Gilmore

But Shirly, Airplane is at the top of my list.

Posted by: Johnny at July 22, 2017 10:10 PM (4DLpr)

532 Young Frankenstein
Top Five film of all time.

Posted by: Deacon Blues at July 22, 2017 10:13 PM (dZGNV)

533 67 What's with the Danny Kaye photo in the post? I really, actively dislike Danny Kaye films.
Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at July 22, 2017 07:44 PM (T71PA)

Word.

Posted by: Gem at July 22, 2017 10:19 PM (uaHyk)

534 203 Jr. When we get home remind me to punch your momma right in the mouth.

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at July 22, 2017 10:22 PM (VJBq9)

535 "That's not Danny Kaye. It's a shot from "Singing in the Rain". That's Donald O'Connor

Posted by: Tuna at July 22, 2017 10:24 PM (jm1YL)

536 119 Just want to throw it out there that, IMVHO, Hot Fuzz is the modern comedy movie gold standard, but that whole loosely-defined trilogy is fantastic.
Posted by: An Occasional Not-Lurker at July 22, 2017 08:02 PM (fS6xP)

Word.

Posted by: Gem Who Just Sez Word at July 22, 2017 10:27 PM (uaHyk)

537 probably too late but I loved Shrek and the first Lego movie!

Posted by: booknlass at July 22, 2017 10:31 PM (6Xf+s)

538 94 73
I don't think gladiator movies were ever a thing.

Which is why it's so funny.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at July 22, 2017 07:45 PM (P/kVC)

Oh yes, they were, in the 50s and 60s. Lots of forgotten low-budget movies.

Which is why it's so funny.
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 07:52 PM (sdi6R)

Oh yeah, Mom would see us kids watching a sweaty Victor Mature movie on the black and white tv, and she'd say "we always called him Victor Manure".. lots of scandalized giggles ensued.

Posted by: stace at July 22, 2017 10:31 PM (wH8rX)

539 This thread has made me put up a stack of movies to watch for the rest of the summer. Thanks.

Posted by: geoffb5 at July 22, 2017 10:32 PM (d3wbb)

540 142 Best Rom Com comedy for me is She's Out Of My League. The basement hockey scene is classic.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 22, 2017 08:11 PM (IDPbH)

I really loved that movie. Should be better known. Whenever anyone asks me for a hidden gem kind of recommendation, I will mention it.

Posted by: Gem at July 22, 2017 10:34 PM (uaHyk)

541 sorry, I loved Ron Burgundy. It's not as quotable as Monty Python but it still made me laugh out loud many times.
Posted by: Jim S at July 22, 2017 08:15 PM (gXw9D)

The news crew street fight is the funniest scene.

Posted by: Gem at July 22, 2017 10:38 PM (uaHyk)

542 Rickl- I didn't mean YOU we're being snarky. I meant that because I possess a certain amount of (incorrect) knowledge, I didn't want you to think I was arguing. Gosh I hate political correctness.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 22, 2017 10:38 PM (w7U7L)

543 @222

Raising Arizona was my daughter's favorite movie as a little girl. She watched it nearly every day after school for a long while. Naturally, dozens of Coen Bros quirky lines became family staples:

Okay, then.
Turn to the right!
Well, sometimes I gets the menstrual cramps real hard.
You never leave a man behind!
"Welcome Home, Son." Well, where's he been, H.I.?
You missed a spot.
H.I., I'm barren!
You go back up there and get me a baby, H.I.
Well, which is it young man? If'n I hit the ground I'm gonna be in motion...
In Arab lands they set out a plate...
Anyone found bipedal in five wears his ass for a hat!
I love him sooooo much!
I'm crappin' you negative.
That's a way-homer. You only get it on the way home.
Or my name ain't Nathan Arizona!
Why aren't you breast-feeding him maam? You appear capable.
That Buford, he's a sly one.
Gimme that baby, you warthog from hell!
Ain't we got enough to contend with?

I could go on and on, but my personal favorite line over the years of my working life:

"A job? You're young, you got yer health. What you want with a job?"

Posted by: Lawrence Larson at July 22, 2017 10:46 PM (8bt9o)

544 The Great Race and Some Like It Hot. Both starred Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon. The Great Race also had Peter Falk as Lemmon's assistant and Natalie Woods as Curtis's love interest. I've frequently wondered how long it took Lemmon to get his voice back after The Great Race. "Hit the button, Max!!!

The Hallelujah Trail with Burt Reynolds and Martin Landau has got to be one of the single most politically incorrect movies ever made. The final scene with Brian Keith and Donald Pleasance sitting by the quick sand waiting for the wagons of booze to rise to the surface is classic.

Romancing the Stone with Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner was fun, but the scene of them sliding down the mud slide and ending with Douglas's face between her thighs with that shit-eating grin on it did me in. My ribs literally hurt because I laughed so hard, and for months, all somebody had to do was say "mud slide" to me and I would just start laughing my head off again.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at July 22, 2017 10:57 PM (lMsBz)

545 Fargo
Boogie Nights

Posted by: charleyhorse at July 22, 2017 10:59 PM (+kahX)

546 I thought Mad Max 2 was a riot. Some seriously funny scenes. The best of course is the boomerang kid and the moron who tries to catch his boomerang.

Posted by: charleyhorse at July 22, 2017 11:02 PM (+kahX)

547 Nothing says 'yummy' like Jungle Skum.

*recalls SNL skit for Painful Rectal Itch jam'

Posted by: Mike Hammer at July 22, 2017 11:17 PM (OdK9v)

548 The diaper heist/chase scene in "Raising Arizona" rivals the car chase in Bullitt.. mixing metaphors, kind of, the bad guys in the latter got their just deserts, and HI got away with the diapers. So, justice wasn't served, really. Would have been messy if he hadn't got the diapers, which reminds me of the older mom giving the new mom diaper advice. "Get the new-fangled Huggies, little missy. Just read the instructions, and you'll be fine." A week later, she visits, and "What's that smell?" Toddler toddles around the corner, diaper full and dragging, but new mom retorts "but it says good for up to 20 pounds."

What's the point? Life is not exactly Ozzie and Harriet.

Posted by: Joel and Ethan at July 22, 2017 11:27 PM (fSf/G)

549 One of favorite Woody Allen scenes is in "Love and Death" between Diane Keaton and her dying husband:

"Diane: I know I could have been a better wife to you... kinder. I could have made love with you more often... or once, even.
Husband: Once would have been nice."

I quote this to my wife all the time, and can't understand why she doesn't see the humor in it.

Posted by: jayhawkone at July 22, 2017 11:37 PM (ZD+J8)

550 Movies that made me LOL in a theatre;:


Lost In America

Pee Wees big adventure.

Comedies that I love to watch at home:

The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Pretty much any other Coen Brother movie.


Posted by: LASue at July 22, 2017 11:48 PM (Mjus2)

551 If you're familiar with college Greeks, Animal House has to be the funniest movie ever. They absolutely nailed every component of social frat life.

Vacation was hilarious because it was so easy to relate to. We've all experienced at least something the Griswalds did on their family trip.

Anchorman was good as was The 40-Year-Old Virgin. Stylistically, they were very similar with Anchorman just a bit more silly.

Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles, and Airplane are simply classics.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 23, 2017 12:28 AM (H8S+R)

552 The reason Airplane works is that the plot framework is taken completely from a very well written script, actually a masterpiece called "Flight into Danger" written by the great potboiler writer Arthur Haley for a Canadian TV movie in 1956. Every dramatic element is there, and it is really compelling. If you notice unlike later Zucker Abrahams Zucker productions "Airplane" doesn't actually mock the plot so much as hang its jokes on it. This is why it works and why there is no real contradiction with the story first then jokes argument for "Ghostbusters" and "Galaxy Quest."

If you can ever find the screenplay for "Flight Into Danger" read it, it is absolutely first class. It is much better and even more readable than most thrillers you find published as novels. Aside from the Canadian production in which James Doohan plays the Ted Stryker role, it was later remade as a Hollywood movie titled "Zero Hour" with Dana Andrews and Linda Darnell, but this version gets in the way of the script undercutting its pacing and relentless drive to the climax. Honestly "Airplane!" is a far more faithful adaptation.

Posted by: Roy CT at July 23, 2017 01:27 AM (Pw6wN)

553 Damn!!!! color me PLAYED by Youtube clikbait!!!!!

MF Marking 4 month old dramaqueen BS , played like a cheap fiddle.

But when I first watched it...did not go to Drudge or Fox or anywhere else...came here for the validation that the shit just got real...should have known by scrolling up that no-one here was commenting on that crap.

Sorry for tainting the ONT....back to lurking

Posted by: Richard Brehme at July 23, 2017 03:09 AM (kFkpX)

554 "My Fellow Americans"
"Pee Wee's Big Adventure"
"Hot Fuzz"
"Shaun of the Dead"
"Superbad"
"The 40-year-old Virgin"
"O Brother Where Art Thou"

and "Borat"
Yikes, insomnia tonight.

Posted by: Go to bed, mom at July 23, 2017 05:42 AM (PWFP/)

555 Here's a brilliant, virtually forgotten movie from 1950: "Champagne For Ceasar".

Posted by: Bill Vallely at July 23, 2017 06:55 AM (/R4ru)

556 Here's a clip from "Champagne For Ceaser"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxweSOgL5nU&t=171s

Posted by: Bill Vallely at July 23, 2017 06:56 AM (/R4ru)

557 Marx Brothers were awesome. One of the things that made it work so well, though, is that Margaret Dumont actually didn't think they were funny.

Posted by: Zapp Branigan at July 23, 2017 07:55 AM (FgFCM)

558 Another vote for "Holy Grail" here. Endlessly quotable. Also, they not only broke the fourth wall (the animator had a heart attack), with the historian scenes they actually erected a fifth wall and broke that too.

Posted by: sherlockzz at July 23, 2017 08:38 AM (uBsvC)

559 One of the biggest laugh lins in Airplane! Was taken verbatums from Zero Hour : "Our survival hinges on one thing - finding someone who not only can fly this plane, but didn't have fish for dinner"

Posted by: Corndog at July 23, 2017 10:33 AM (V2CIU)

Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread (Featuring Dress Pr0n) 07-22-2017

Michael Cheval - Wake up call in wonderland.jpeg
Wake Up Call In Wonderland
Michael Cheval


Good afternoon morons and moronettes, and welcome to the Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread, the only AoSHQ thread with content specifically for all of us chess nerds who pay homage in the temple of Caïssa, goddess of the chessboard. Also, dress pr0n. Each week, I pick out a few lovely, modest, conservative dresses for the 'ettes to admire and appraise. And, for those of you who aren't nerdly enough for chess, you can use this thread to talk about checkers, or other games, or politics, or whatever you wish, only please try to keep it civil. Nobody wants to get in the middle of a bout of poo flinging on a Saturday afternoon.


Problem 1 - Black To Play (530)

Hint: Black mates in 2


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6k1/8/8/3bQ3/4n3/8/7P/5R1K b - - 0 1


Problem 2 - White To Play (522)

This is a position from an actual game. Black has just played 19...Qxe5, capturing the 'e' pawn. Why is this a bad move?

Hint: White wins material


20170722 - Problem 2.jpg
r3r1k1/p1pb2pp/1bp5/2Npq3/8/2Q1B3/PPP3PP/4RRK1 w - - 0 20


Chess GAINZZ

What about your chess GAINZZZ, brah?


Problem 3 - White To Play (529)

Hint: Black either is mated in 5, or loses material


20170722 - Problem 3.jpg
3r2k1/5p1p/2p3p1/p7/1pP5/1P2nQPP/P2q2B1/5R1K w - - 0 1


Problem 4 - White To Play (BWTC 82)

Hint: White mates in 4


20170722 - Problem 4.jpg
r1b2qrk/pp3p1p/4pPpQ/8/8/5N2/P4PPP/3R2KR w - - 0 1


Endgame of the Week (488 )

White to play. A beautiful illustration of the power of the knight.

Hint: Black's bishop is toast


20170722- Endgame.jpg
2k5/3N4/8/8/8/7B/8/3b1K2 w - - 0 1


Dress Pr0n For The 'Ettes -- International Edition

Tagline: "The OregonMuse, he knows what women like."

This week, I'm featuring dress pr0n from around the world.

First up, here are some examples of what Kurdish women in Syria wear when the murdering ISIS thugs are no longer around to smother them all in Hefty bags:

20170722 dress pr0n 39.jpg


This is one of the search results I got back when I Googled for "traditional dress canada images". I have no idea why this dress is uniquely Canadian, and in fact, it may not be "Canadian" at all, but even so, I think it's quite lovely, so I just had to show it to you all:


20170722 canada.jpg


"Well, the Ukraine girls really knock me out...":

20170722 dress pr0n 40.jpg


Nigeria:

20170722 dress pr0n 41.jpg


Venezuela:

20170722 dress pr0n 42.jpg


Traditional Chinese wedding dress:

20170722 dress pr0n 43.jpg


OK, I think I've got dresses from every continent in today's international edition of the dress pr0n thread. Oh wait, Antarctica. I don't have one from Antarctica. Let me remedy that:

20170722 penguins.jpg


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Solutions Update

Problem 1 - Black To Play


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6k1/8/8/3bQ3/4n3/8/7P/5R1K b - - 0 1

Forced:

1...Nf2+
2.Kg1 Nh3#


Problem 2 - White To Play


20170722 - Problem 2.jpg
r3r1k1/p1pb2pp/1bp5/2Npq3/8/2Q1B3/PPP3PP/4RRK1 w - - 0 20

20. Rf8+!

Black loses either way he captures:

20...Kxf8 21.Nxd7+

or

20...Rxf8 21. Qxe5.


Problem 3 - White To Play


20170722 - Problem 3.jpg
3r2k1/5p1p/2p3p1/p7/1pP5/1P2nQPP/P2q2B1/5R1K w - - 0 1

1. Qxf7+ Kh8
2. Qf6+ Kg8
3. Bd5+ Qxd5+

What? Why give up the queen? Because, actually, it's the best move available. All other moves lead to mate:

3...cxd5 4.Qxd8+ Kg7 5.Qf8# or
3...Nxd5 4.Qxd8+ Kg7 5.Qf8# or
3...Rxd5 4.Qf7+ Kh8 5.Qf8#

After White takes the black queen, he obviously has a won game, but there's an interesting position that comes up later on that I think is fun to look at:

4.cxd5 Nxf1
5.Qxd8+ Kf7
6.Qd7+ Kf8
7.Qd6+ Kf7
8.dxc6 Nxg3+

White was threatening Qf4+, simultaneously attacking the knight. But there's really no safe square for it to go to:

8...Nd2 9.Qf4+
8...Ne3 9.Qf4+ Nf5 10.g4

9. Qxg3 Ke6
10.Qg4+ Kd6
11.Qd7+ and wins

It was amazing to see Black lose all of his pieces in just a few moves.


Problem 4 - White To Play


20170722 - Problem 4.jpg
r1b2qrk/pp3p1p/4pPpQ/8/8/5N2/P4PPP/3R2KR w - - 0 1

1. Ng5!

Threatens Qxh7#

1...Rg7

Not 1...Qxh6 2.Nxf7#

2. Rd8 e5 (if 2...Bd7 then 3. Qxg7#)

Also possible is 2.fxg7+ which we will deal with presently.

3.Rxf8+ Rg8
4.Qxh7#

Another way to mate in 4 is:

2.fxg7+ Qxg7
3.Rd8+ Qf8
4.Qxh7# (or 4.Rxf8#)


Endgame of the Week


20170722- Endgame.jpg
2k5/3N4/8/8/8/7B/8/3b1K2 w - - 0 1

Answer:

White's strategy is to attack the bishop again and again until it has no safe square to move to.

1.Ke1! Bc2

This is the only safe square. All others allow White to grab the bishop with discovered check:

1...Bf3 2.Ne5+ or
1...Bh5 2.Nf6+ or
1...Bb3 2.Nc5+ or
1...Ba4 2.Nb6+

2. Kd2 Bb1

Black still has the same problem. Here are just two examples:

2...Bh7 3.Nf6+ or
2...Ba4 3.Nb6+

3.Kc1 Ba2
4.Kb2 Bf7

Black finally runs out of squares to move his bishop.

5.Ne5+

And now, White has to complete the fiendish K+B+N vs. K mate. Difficult, but doable. It's amazing how that knight just dominated the entire board.

Hope to see you all next week!


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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

___________

So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.


Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:00 PM




Comments

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1 "King 2 calling White Rook, over."

Posted by: HH at July 22, 2017 04:59 PM (mIJBI)

2 That top painting? Kind of makes me glad I never took LSD back in the day.

Posted by: HH at July 22, 2017 05:02 PM (mIJBI)

3 Afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 22, 2017 05:02 PM (89T5c)

4 Like the fantasy painting

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 05:02 PM (9g/6M)

5 th

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:03 PM (vWMNq)

6 Nobody wants to get in the middle of a bout of poo flinging on a Saturday afternoon.

I dunno, GorillaPundit seems like the kind of dude who might.

Posted by: Marlon Perkins at July 22, 2017 05:03 PM (h6Z8X)

7 Hillary's meds kick in while playing one dimensional chess in the woods of Chappaqua.

Posted by: tu3031 at July 22, 2017 05:04 PM (qJhUV)

8
Canadian dress looks like it has a lot of Russian influence.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 22, 2017 05:05 PM (lKyWE)

9 The hookah-smoking whist fiend appears to be checking out Alice's ass.

Posted by: art cricket at July 22, 2017 05:05 PM (h6Z8X)

10 Is this still the kitteh thread?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:07 PM (sdi6R)

11 #9

I saw the Hookah-Smoking Whist Fiends open for Alice in Chains at the Palladium in 1995.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 05:07 PM (OiLIO)

12 10 Is this still the kitteh thread?
Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:07 PM (sdi6R)


Shut up and work the problems.






Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 05:08 PM (OiLIO)

13 And to think I was just about to ask Are there dresses in this thread?

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 05:08 PM (9g/6M)

14 Problem 1:

1. ... Nf2+
2. Kg1 Nh3#

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:10 PM (sdi6R)

15

Looks like the short guy just pulled off the old 52 card pick up gag on Alice and he's hightailing it out of there before she kicks his ass

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 22, 2017 05:11 PM (lKyWE)

16 Took two of my sons to see "Dunkirk". It was good for what it was.

My Sailor punched out early - too many ships going down and drownings.

I don't know what the hell I was thinking.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:11 PM (tr2D7)

17 Damn, I'm moving to Canada.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:12 PM (sdi6R)

18 That "Canadian" dress is an Indian (Desi not feather) style called an anarkali. Not a clue why it would show up as Canadian.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2017 05:12 PM (rp9xB)

19 I figured someone got the 1st, but finally did figure it out.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 05:12 PM (9g/6M)

20 Puzzles seem easier this week. I think I have got them all.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:12 PM (vWMNq)

21 And those penguins are wearing Korean clothes, and are admittedly adorable.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2017 05:13 PM (rp9xB)

22 Penguins in dresses.

Nowhere but Ace of Spades.

Posted by: LASue at July 22, 2017 05:14 PM (Mjus2)

23 20 Puzzles seem easier this week. I think I have got them all.
Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:12 PM (vWMNq)


Maybe your chess gainzzz are impressive...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 05:15 PM (OiLIO)

24 Maybe your chess gainzzz are impressive...


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 05:15 PM (OiLIO)

Maybe. I did pretty well on http://elometer.net a few days ago -- i.e. about 700 points better than my rating. I think your weekly puzzles are helping.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:17 PM (vWMNq)

25 I haven't been able to figure out anything besides #1.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:17 PM (sdi6R)

26 Problem 1:

... Nf2+

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:18 PM (rZ+mb)

27 16 Tonypete

That's why I never saw Titanic. The ship sank; the hole snipes provided power to the end.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 05:18 PM (hyuyC)

28 ISIS has posted a lot of videos about beheading or burning non ISIS people.

I would love to see, not only beautiful Kurdish women, but beautiful Kurdish women beheading ISIS shit heads who want to rape and enslave them. And Yazidi women. I want to see these ISIS fuckers be exterminated. I vaguely recall a story about a Kurdish female pilot who bombed a shit load of ISIS people into oblivion. Or to their 72.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2017 05:18 PM (/qEW2)

29 That endgame is my worst nightmare. No way in hell would I be able to win that. The 50 move rule would apply.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:19 PM (sdi6R)

30 25
I haven't been able to figure out anything besides #1.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:17 PM (sdi6R)

#2 is easier than #3 and #4. Endgame is sort of obvious.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:19 PM (vWMNq)

31 16 Took two of my sons to see "Dunkirk". It was good for what it was.

My Sailor punched out early - too many ships going down and drownings.

I don't know what the hell I was thinking.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:11 PM (tr2D7)


Was Charles Lightoller in it?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:20 PM (sdi6R)

32 Much of Iraq, at least of the Syrian Desert in the west and south, has a peculiar pH that tends to preserve man-made items, like the colors of garments.

In mass graves of Kurdish women and children murdered by the regime so many are/were obsessed with preserving, this resulted in their colorful dresses and sashes looking like new when uncovered by investigators. The women pictured above are probably wearing fancy festive things, but the colors for everyday use are also bright and vibrant. Made for a particularly striking scene, the skeletons, and the bright clothing looking like it was put there yesterday.

And then there were the large pails, from a popular brand of yogurt, that Kurdish women used to carry the necessaries for the infants they had with them.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 22, 2017 05:20 PM (iynDC)

33 I've been to Canada.

That does not seem Canadian. Unless there is some sort of hidden Maple Leafs logo somewhere.

I think the girl in Argentina was auditioning for the role of Scarlet in Gone With the Wind.

Penguins for the win.

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 05:20 PM (aT+Bx)

34 Problem 2:

Rf8+

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:21 PM (rZ+mb)

35 Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:19 PM (sdi6R)

Look it up on youtube. Quite a few demos. Akobian did one for the St. Louis CC channel. His is quite nice because he explains the pattern you need to use.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:21 PM (vWMNq)

36 problem 1

... E4-F2. double check

K to G1. F2-H3 mate.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 05:21 PM (hyuyC)

37
I would love to see, not only beautiful Kurdish women, but beautiful Kurdish women beheading ISIS shit heads who want to rape and enslave them. And Yazidi women. I want to see these ISIS fuckers be exterminated. I vaguely recall a story about a Kurdish female pilot who bombed a shit load of ISIS people into oblivion. Or to their 72.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 22, 2017 05:18 PM (/qEW2)


Evidently from what I've read Kurdish women are really good snipers

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at July 22, 2017 05:22 PM (lKyWE)

38 OM, nice dresses. I like the smile in the top picture, second from the left.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 05:24 PM (hyuyC)

39 Problem 3:

Qxf7+

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:24 PM (rZ+mb)

40 Re Dunkirk: Was Charles Lightoller in it?
Posted by: rickl
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Nope - he died in 1952 according to IMDB.com

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (tr2D7)

41 Problem 4:

Ng5

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (rZ+mb)

42 39 Problem 3:

Qxf7+
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:24 PM (rZ+mb)


Then what?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (sdi6R)

43 Your Australian picture of poor impoverished Aussie women with half a swimsuit (a short fringed bottom at Bondi Beach) was confiscated by the AoSHQ censor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 22, 2017 05:27 PM (hyuyC)

44 40 Re Dunkirk: Was Charles Lightoller in it?
Posted by: rickl
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Nope - he died in 1952 according to IMDB.com
Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (tr2D7)


*facepalm*

Was he depicted in the movie by an actor?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:27 PM (sdi6R)

45 Then what?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (sdi6R)

LOL. Here's a hint. It's move 3 that is the trick.
1. Qxf7+ Kh82. Qf6+ Kg83. ???

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:28 PM (vWMNq)

46 Crap.

1. Qxf7+ Kh8
2. Qf6+ Kg8
3. ???

I hate this thing ...

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:29 PM (vWMNq)

47 Never thought I'd say this, in any circumstances, but the Nigerian dress really looks nice.

That hat has to go, though.

Wake me when it's time to complain about Valerian.

Or when this turns into a lingerie thread.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 05:30 PM (xJa6I)

48 Then what?

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (sdi6R)


Qxf7+ Kh8
Qf6+ Kg8
Bxc6 ...? something

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:31 PM (rZ+mb)

49
First problem

... Kn F2 (ch)
K G1 Kn H3 (mate)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 22, 2017 05:32 PM (pNxlR)

50 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:31 PM (rZ+mb)

One square too far.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:33 PM (vWMNq)

51 That cat needs to chill out with the doggie in the beer pool.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 22, 2017 05:33 PM (IqV8l)

52 Nope - he died in 1952 according to IMDB.com
Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:25 PM (tr2D7)

*facepalm*

Was he depicted in the movie by an actor?
Posted by: rickl
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Sorry man - I'm an IT nerd on the spectrum that only can deal effectively with literal translations.

But, to answer your question, no - C. Lightoller was not played in the film.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:33 PM (tr2D7)

53 Music to solve chess problems by. Hank Marvin plays James Bond:

https://youtu.be/AIgcVcRh3us

Worked for me.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:34 PM (vWMNq)

54 One square too far.

Posted by: Off the reservation at July 22, 2017 05:33 PM (vWMNq)


Aha!

I looked at Bd5+ and discounted it ... but I see.

Thanks.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:34 PM (rZ+mb)

55 Alice appears to be transitioning. She's the anti Kaitlyn Jenner. Is that what she's hiding underneath the blanket?

Posted by: pep at July 22, 2017 05:37 PM (LAe3v)

56 It's raining hard here in NoVa. Thunderbolts and lightning. Very, very frightening.

Posted by: pep at July 22, 2017 05:40 PM (LAe3v)

57 In the top pic, it looks like the genie's been fly fishing.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2017 05:41 PM (Iwktz)

58 Gallileo! Gallileo!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 05:42 PM (OiLIO)

59 57 In the top pic, it looks like the genie's been fly fishing.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2017 05:41 PM (Iwktz)


Ha! Yeah, if I tried fly-casting, I'd probably look like that, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 05:43 PM (OiLIO)

60 Excuse me, can anyone point me to the poo flinging thread?

Posted by: Monkey at July 22, 2017 05:43 PM (hVdx9)

61 52
But, to answer your question, no - C. Lightoller was not played in the film.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 22, 2017 05:33 PM (tr2D7)


That's too bad. He was the highest-ranking surviving crew member of the Titanic, and was a genuine hero at Dunkirk, rescuing dozens of soldiers with his private yacht.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:45 PM (sdi6R)

62 60 which one?

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 05:46 PM (gDoff)

63 Penguins!!!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:48 PM (CNHr1)

64 That little fella looks like he just hit it and quit it.

Go ask Alice, I think she'll know.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 22, 2017 05:49 PM (5VlCp)

65
Second problem

R f8+ KxR
KnxB+ K g8
KnxQ

Bye, White Queen!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 22, 2017 05:49 PM (pNxlR)

66 nice dress.

Would play chess there if she agrees to remain.

PDT is saving his "Best of the Clintonistas" for 2020.

Bet on it.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finished at July 22, 2017 05:50 PM (2wRtc)

67 Penguins!!!

I STILL say the NFL should have made the owners of the Tennessee team name it
the Tuxedos.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2017 05:51 PM (Iwktz)

68 "Well, the Ukraine girls really knock me out...":

++++

Maybe so, but those dresses they are wearing are just plain awful. I thought horizontal stripes were a bad thing? Plus, the waists are so high, they are getting into boob belt territory. Especially that one in the middle. It looks like she wrapped herself in material right off the roll. With creases.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at July 22, 2017 05:52 PM (FUu/Z)

69 65
Second problem

R f8+ KxR
KnxB+ K g8
KnxQ

Bye, White Queen!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 22, 2017 05:49 PM (pNxlR)


That works.

I got Problem 1, but the others are stumping me.

It's started to rain here, and I can hear thunder in the distance.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

70 Expecting rain tonight. Good Lord, all that will do is make it even more humid. Current temp 97 but heat index is 106. I hate this shit. Bring on Fall already.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:55 PM (CNHr1)

71 Miss Venezuela looks like she's ready to shell Ft. Sumter.

Posted by: pep at July 22, 2017 05:55 PM (LAe3v)

72 Bring on Fall already.

Yeah, that's what I was saying about the end of May.

Posted by: pep at July 22, 2017 05:56 PM (LAe3v)

73
Did I mention that I would hit it like a log splitter at a shingle plant?

Because I would.


(d) All of the above

Posted by: Mortimer - Finished at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (2wRtc)

74 Dear diary, I spent the whole afternoon making jewelry. Nice and cool here in the dining room. Look outside and see my neighbors doing landscaping and thinking WTF?? Are you crazy!!! I feel bad, my garden looks like shit. I can't deal with it anymore. *sad face*

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (CNHr1)

75 Oregon Muse-

Really appreciate all of the thought, time, and effort you put forth with these dresses for the 'ettes. Thank you!

Also, I love the Gorilla Pundit. No matter what else is going on, it always makes me laugh.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (2+gSO)

76 Bring on Fall already.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:55 PM (CNHr1)


That's awful. People used to be burned at the stake for saying stuff like that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (rZ+mb)

77 pep.. end of May here was gorgeous. Even June had some nice cool weather but as is typical with MissourAH.. you hit July and you're fucking over summer.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:59 PM (CNHr1)

78 71 Miss Venezuela looks like she's ready to shell Ft. Sumter.
Posted by: pep at July 22, 2017 05:55 PM (LAe3v)


That's an old photo. She's wearing a miniskirt now, because her fellow citizens have been eating the rest of her dress.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 05:59 PM (sdi6R)

79 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (rZ+mb)

Yeah well as I get older I can't tolerate the heat so just fuck that shit. It's miserable out there.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 06:00 PM (CNHr1)

80 Bring on Fall already.



Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:55 PM
---

In my corner of the world, the grass goes dormant in the winter.

And you are not required to shovel snow unless it's 2" or over.

Finally, it does not snow every week during the winter.

winter> every other season

Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 06:00 PM (aT+Bx)

81 76 Bring on Fall already.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:55 PM (CNHr1)

That's awful. People used to be burned at the stake for saying stuff like that.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (rZ+mb)


It's been in the 90s all week here. Hells to the yes for bringing on Fall.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:01 PM (sdi6R)

82 I feel bad, my garden looks like shit

Look at the bright side, it doesn't smell
like shit.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2017 06:01 PM (Iwktz)

83 Yeah well as I get older I can't tolerate the heat so just fuck that shit. It's miserable out there.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 06:00 PM (CNHr1)


As I get older I have less tolerance for the cold.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 06:01 PM (rZ+mb)

84 I like Summer

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 06:01 PM (9g/6M)

85 Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (CNHr1)

A friend in Troy, MO put a picture of the forecast on FaceBook. It said it felt like 112. I can believe it from the 4 years we lived there. Can't believe that the weather in Houston is actually better than there, and no ice storms in winter.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 22, 2017 06:02 PM (rp9xB)

86 It's been in the 90s all week here. Hells to the yes for bringing on Fall.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:01 PM (sdi6R)


It's been beautiful. I believe I'm not too far from you and I was out hitting a couple of buckets of balls yesterday. It was awesome!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 06:02 PM (rZ+mb)

87
Summer sucks.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:02 PM (lzrKs)

88 g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 22, 2017 06:03 PM (KCxzN)

89 80
In my corner of the world, the grass goes dormant in the winter.

And you are not required to shovel snow unless it's 2" or over.

Finally, it does not snow every week during the winter.

winter> every other season
Posted by: shibumi at July 22, 2017 06:00 PM (aT+Bx)


This, this, and this.

winter> every other season

No centipedes in winter, either.

Winter FTW.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:04 PM (sdi6R)

90
I'm an idiot for living in an area with such a crappy Clime.

I literally spend 5 months a year wishing my Life away because I can't stand temps over 70 degrees or the bright Sun.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:04 PM (lzrKs)

91 Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 05:57 PM (2+gSO)

Thank you for your kind words.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 06:05 PM (OiLIO)

92

I want to live in a place where its 40-70 degrees all year, and cloudy.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:05 PM (lzrKs)

93 Canada: "It's not a melting pot. It's a salad bowl."

We will see how that turns out.



Posted by: JAS at July 22, 2017 06:05 PM (UnDQI)

94 I like summer, too. I prefer being able to wear shorts and going barefoot, as opposed to having to wear leggings under my jeans, two pairs of socks on my feet, several sweaters and frozen fingers. Of course, here in the NW we've had an exceptionally cooler summer than normal.
We've only had a couple days 100 or over and very few 90s. It has been grand.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 06:06 PM (2+gSO)

95 92

I want to live in a place where its 40-70 degrees all year, and cloudy.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:05 PM (lzrKs)


That sounds perfectly fine to me. I hate sweating, and I can always throw on a few more clothes if it gets chilly.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:07 PM (sdi6R)

96 I want to live in a place where its 40-70 degrees all year, and cloudy.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:05 PM (lzrKs)


That's pretty much a description of western Oregon, although right now it's pushing 90, although that's not usual.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 06:08 PM (OiLIO)

97 I would much rather live in a hot-weather city than a cold-weather city.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 06:09 PM (OiLIO)

98 I want to live in a place where its 40-70 degrees all year, and cloudy.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:05 PM (lzrKs)


It's called Ireland

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 06:09 PM (auHtY)

99
wear leggings under my jeans, two pairs of socks on my feet, several sweaters and frozen fingers.

You mean for the few minutes you need to be outside on frigid days?

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:09 PM (lzrKs)

100
I wouldn't really care to ever go outdoors again. Outside is stupid. I like Inside.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:10 PM (lzrKs)

101 Nothing in the world beats a 95° day hitting some golf balls and then hanging out by the pool.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 06:10 PM (rZ+mb)

102 BAM! Woo-hoo!

Thunder's getting closer.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:11 PM (sdi6R)

103 You want San Diego itself, or someplace in SD county then, Soothsayer!

Posted by: Interested Onlooker at July 22, 2017 06:11 PM (Tsy3Z)

104 100
I wouldn't really care to ever go outdoors again. Outside is stupid. I like Inside.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:10 PM (lzrKs)


^^This right there.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:12 PM (sdi6R)

105
Remember the TV show LOST?

That underground bunker that guy was living in is my Dream Home.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:12 PM (lzrKs)

106
Cats have the right idea.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:12 PM (lzrKs)

107 You mean for the few minutes you need to be outside on frigid days?

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:09 PM (lzrKs)

+++

No. Going outside would be adding a jacket or coat to my ensemble.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 06:13 PM (2+gSO)

108 he latest from our local progressive news station TV:

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) The Latest on President Donald Trump's visit to Virginia to commission an aircraft carrier (all times local): Headline:

The Latest: Trump calls aircraft carrier a symbol of power....And worse yet, we trust him with the nuclear codes...

Posted by: Colin at July 22, 2017 06:13 PM (7/EbC)

109 Cats have the right idea.

They eat mice ?

Is this a GAINZZZ thing ?

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2017 06:14 PM (Iwktz)

110
My Perfect World: a Wintry day, and me inside looking out the window, sipping green tea.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:14 PM (lzrKs)

111 Mark Corallo, spokesman for Trump's legal beagle Marc Kasowitz, didn't want ill words spoken of asshole and persecutor R Mueller is now looking for a new job and Kasowitz is making a lateral move.

They've got Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb hokey smokes, handling the WH. He'll straighten them up.

Posted by: Batter Up at July 22, 2017 06:14 PM (P7ulB)

112
I don't get the Ty Cobb thing.

Is he a relative of *the* Ty Cobb?

How is he involved in politics?

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:16 PM (lzrKs)

113 He's one of the lawyers at the WH.
Enemies haven't a ghost of a chance.

Posted by: Batter Up at July 22, 2017 06:18 PM (P7ulB)

114 foxnews.com/ politics/ 2017/07/21/
resignation- changes- on- trump-legal-team.html

Posted by: Batter Up at July 22, 2017 06:19 PM (P7ulB)

115 If Hillary was commissioning a new aircraft carrier, she probably would want to drink the wine in the bottle before breaking it across the bow...

Posted by: Colin at July 22, 2017 06:20 PM (7/EbC)

116 My Perfect World: a Wintry day, and me inside looking out the window, sipping green tea.

This! Except substitute green tea with a hot toddy!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 06:20 PM (CNHr1)

117
Every single time in my life that I've eaten Pizza, Toast, or Potato Chips a tiny piece of crust or chip gets lodged in my gum behind one of my front teeth. Hurts like hell for a day or two. Every time.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:20 PM (lzrKs)

118 What are the chances of a movie thread tonight?

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (9g/6M)

119
Never in my Life have I ever wanted to wake up, open the shades/blinds, open the windows, let the Sun in, and hear the friggin birds chirping.

I am Mister Snow Miser.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (lzrKs)

120 They've got Ty Cobb, Ty Cobb hokey smokes, handling the WH. He'll straighten them up.

Posted by: Batter Up at July 22, 2017 06:14 PM (P7ulB)



Does he go in spikes up?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (auHtY)

121 Here's a stab at Problem 4:

1. Qxh7+ Kxh7
2. Ng5+ Kh8
3. Rd4 Black any
4. Rh4#

The point being that Black's Q and R are hemming in the K and can't get out of the way fast enough.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (sdi6R)

122 85, keep the humidity down a bit and I'm there

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 06:23 PM (9g/6M)

123 Potter County, PA -> 50.3 percent of adults have a concealed carry permit.

Posted by: Ka Bam at July 22, 2017 06:23 PM (P7ulB)

124 119
Never in my Life have I ever wanted to wake up, open the shades/blinds, open the windows, let the Sun in, and hear the friggin birds chirping.

I am Mister Snow Miser.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (lzrKs)

+++

Oh my word. Don't you even like any outdoorsy things like going to the beach, lake, or taking a river walk or anything like that?

Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 06:24 PM (2+gSO)

125 lol.. Sooth. I almost always sleep with the window open, even in the dead of winter but I hear ya about the damn birds. They start at 5:00 am and I'm like shut the hell up I want to sleep you stupid shits! It's been too hot lately to sleep with the window open.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 06:24 PM (CNHr1)

126 Does he go in spikes up?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (auHtY)
******************

I hope so.

Posted by: Batter Up at July 22, 2017 06:25 PM (P7ulB)

127 @Soothsayer

That's Seattle most of the year, though we get occasional forways into the 80's a few times in the summer.

Not sure if there's anywhere cooler than that, maybe upstate Maine?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at July 22, 2017 06:25 PM (xJa6I)

128 otter County, PA -> 50.3 percent of adults have a concealed carry permit.



Posted by: Ka Bam at July 22, 2017 06:23 PM (P7ulB)

In Chicago at least 50.3 percent of the black youths have at least one bullet hole in them.

Posted by: Colin at July 22, 2017 06:25 PM (7/EbC)

129
Radio talker Howie Carr went to the White House on Friday. He called in on his own show to talk about his visit with President Trump and said something interesting and encouraging.

Howie mentioned, incidentally, that President Trump was in a "really good mood" and that he and his team "seemed not to be bothered at all" by all the Fake News bullshit.

I liked hearing this. President Trump GivesNoShit about the Fake News' antics.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:26 PM (lzrKs)

130 124
Oh my word. Don't you even like any outdoorsy things like going to the beach, lake, or taking a river walk or anything like that?
Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 06:24 PM (2+gSO)


Nope.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:26 PM (sdi6R)

131
Don't you even like any outdoorsy things like going to the beach, lake, or taking a river walk or anything like that?

Used to love the beach. I've been Outdoors enough.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:27 PM (lzrKs)

132 130 124
Oh my word. Don't you even like any outdoorsy things like going to the beach, lake, or taking a river walk or anything like that?
Posted by: washrivergal at July 22, 2017 06:24 PM (2+gSO)

Nope.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:26 PM (sdi6R)



You can't send a rocket to space inside.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 06:28 PM (cAnNx)

133
They start at 5:00 am and I'm like shut the hell up

They start up at 3:30am here in the Summer.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:28 PM (lzrKs)

134 I don't see and awful lot Canadian in that dress. Is she covered in maple syrup?
We have Indian friends in our church. The ladies often wear Saris. They've even given my wife one.
They will show her how to wear tomorrow. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at July 22, 2017 06:28 PM (hJrjt)

135 Watching Under the Tuscan Sun with Diane Lane, this is the third movie now she falls in love with Frenchmen I know of.

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 06:28 PM (9g/6M)

136 Problem 4:

If 2. ... Kh6, then I dunno.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (sdi6R)

137 Well. One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small.

Posted by: kraken at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (pL6Vz)

138 Your tax dollars at work: A welfare sponge "thanks" you:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=86305

Enjoy.

Posted by: RKae at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (NQNOa)

139 118 What are the chances of a movie thread tonight?

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (9g/6M)


Dang good.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (OiLIO)

140
I can't do Seattle.

Maine has wicked long days in the Summer. Sun rises at like 4:30 in Bar Harbor.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (lzrKs)

141 132
You can't send a rocket to space inside.
Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 06:28 PM (cAnNx)


I can watch somebody else do it on my computer screen, in my comfortable air-conditioned room.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:31 PM (sdi6R)

142 We moved to Texas. Politics are fine. Weather sucks. Summer is miserable, and winter? What winter? Sixty degrees at Christmas? *bleep* that.

I play a lot of Skyrim just for the lovely snow.

Posted by: empire1 at July 22, 2017 06:31 PM (7zMFe)

143 Here's a stab at Problem 4:

1. Qxh7+ Kxh7
2. Ng5+ Kh8
3. Rd4 Black any
4. Rh4#

The point being that Black's Q and R are hemming in the K and can't get out of the way fast enough.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:22 PM (sdi6R)


Black king can go to h6.

You want to get the knight at g5 first and then bring the rook all the way down to d8.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 06:32 PM (rZ+mb)

144 You want to get the knight at g5 first and then bring the rook all the way down to d8.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at July 22, 2017 06:32 PM (rZ+mb)


Ayup.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 06:33 PM (OiLIO)

145 Judicial watch says: _ Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina and Tennessee have more registered voters than eligible adults.

They art to clean up like OK did. That's when OK went from blue to red.

Posted by: Voter Bob at July 22, 2017 06:34 PM (P7ulB)

146 Have lived here most of my life and Seattle sucks.
Three good months a year and the rest is gray. And over half of those involve rain.
If the sh*theads that run Seattle and King County could figure out how, they'd tax everyone for the sunshine.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2017 06:34 PM (0tfLf)

147 Maine has wicked long days in the Summer. Sun rises at like 4:30 in Bar Harbor.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (lzrKs)

If you ever watch YouTube where in a drive up to northern Norway, they have a marker where the sun never sets in the summer. People drive up there, to have a picnic at midnight, just for the hell of it.

Posted by: Colin at July 22, 2017 06:35 PM (7/EbC)

148 118 What are the chances of a movie thread tonight?

Posted by: Skip

----

Won't be participating, as I'm doing the one better thing: having a movie night with a buddy.

Tonight it's "The Seventh Victim" (1942): awesome Val Lewton shadow-fest (with the added attraction of Hugh Beaumont).

Posted by: RKae at July 22, 2017 06:35 PM (NQNOa)

149 Oh, yeah. And I'm a morning person. Even in summer, it's barely dawn when it's time to get up. Bright sun at 0530 is nice. Barely dawn at 0600 stinks.

Posted by: empire1 at July 22, 2017 06:35 PM (7zMFe)

150 solutions up

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 22, 2017 06:35 PM (OiLIO)

151 You want to get the knight at g5 first and then bring the rook all the way down to d8.

And then have Miss Scarlet stab him with the lead pipe.

Posted by: JT at July 22, 2017 06:36 PM (gvBeU)

152

Yeah, otherwise Norway would be perfect for me.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:36 PM (lzrKs)

153
This planet sucks.

Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:36 PM (lzrKs)

154 And since I'm in a grumpy mood, I just came from seeing Dunkirk. Jeez...did they ever miss the boat on that (pun intended). Hugely disappointing especially given the pre-release hype.
I hear the French are pissed about the movie...they should be.
And so should every Brit who sees it.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2017 06:37 PM (0tfLf)

155 Count me as someone who likes a distinct change of seasons. Not crazy about cold weather but milder days in winter are great. I love the sight of the mountains in winter.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at July 22, 2017 06:38 PM (hJrjt)

156 I hope this doesn't drop me in the barrel. It's on my fridge.



I woke early one morning,The earth lay cool and still.
When suddenly a tiny bird Perched on my window sill.


He sang a song so lovely So carefree and so gay,


That slowly all my troubles Began to slip away.


He sang of far off places Of laughter and of fun,


It seemed his very trilling, brought up the morning sun.


I stirred beneath the covers Crept slowly out of bed,


Then gently shut the window And crushed his fu cking head.


I'm not a morning person.

Posted by: Infidel at July 22, 2017 06:38 PM (gDoff)

157 Hey, peeps.

I've been a ghost here lately, but at least I have invested the time in my novel (hoping for an attaboy from AP). It's going to be grim and fatalistic. My inspiration lately has not really come from other fiction, but from history. Right now, I'm reading about the run-up to World War I. What a cosmic clusterfuck of folly and assholery.


Nothing new under the sun.

To dust we shall return.

Posted by: logprof at July 22, 2017 06:38 PM (GsAUU)

158 Your tax dollars at work: A welfare sponge "thanks" you:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=86305

Enjoy.
Posted by: RKae at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (NQNOa)



It's well past time to cut off every penny to them. If they don't or won't work let them starve to death

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 06:39 PM (auHtY)

159 145 Judicial watch says: _ Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina and Tennessee have more registered voters than eligible adults.

They art to clean up like OK did. That's when OK went from blue to red.

Posted by: Voter Bob at July 22, 2017 06:34 PM (P7ulB)


Let's see. Alabama and Florida will probably be blocked from cleaning up theirs because "racism." New York will refuse to as will Maryland and New Jersey. And Illinois its not a question of voters versus adults. Its voters versus adults + corpses, so they won't be cleaning theirs up either.

Posted by: buzzion at July 22, 2017 06:39 PM (cAnNx)

160 Chinese are picking on the Uyghur's again.

Posted by: Juan Huang at July 22, 2017 06:39 PM (P7ulB)

161 118 What are the chances of a movie thread tonight?



Posted by: Skip

I'll probably make popcorn and watch another MST3K....I like the one I'm watching now where 4 people go to some planet and walk around like they are in Minnesota in ordinary clothes...they sure have fun trashing that movie.
Or watch for the millionth time a Jame Bond Movie.

Posted by: Colin at July 22, 2017 06:40 PM (7/EbC)

162 154 And since I'm in a grumpy mood, I just came from seeing Dunkirk. Jeez...did they ever miss the boat on that (pun intended). Hugely disappointing especially given the pre-release hype.
I hear the French are pissed about the movie...they should be.
And so should every Brit who sees it.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2017 06:37 PM (0tfLf)


Sounds like another typical Hollywood movie. *spit*

I knew enough to be suspicious when the critics were raving over it.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:40 PM (sdi6R)

163 *waves at logprof* Hey good to see you!!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at July 22, 2017 06:41 PM (CNHr1)

164 Sounds like another typical Hollywood movie. *spit*

I knew enough to be suspicious when the critics were raving over it.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:40 PM


It is such a fantastic story that begged the big screen. It comes across of what war would look like if fought by millennials.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 22, 2017 06:43 PM (0tfLf)

165 This planet sucks.
Posted by: Soothsayer --Digitally Remastered at July 22, 2017 06:36 PM


Well, yeah. It's what I do.

Posted by: Gravity at July 22, 2017 06:43 PM (DMUuz)

166 SF usually has lovely weather, below 70, often foggy, and if not, it'll roll in around 5, dep on where you are. Warmest months are April and October. Never rains 5-6 months, but heavy overnight fog/mist.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 22, 2017 06:44 PM (Udnmn)

167 Warmest months are April and October. Never rains 5-6 months, but heavy overnight fog/mist.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 22, 2017 06:44 PM (Udnmn)

Plus you have the Folsom Street Fair, where it rains in some of the booths...not really rain as such.

Posted by: Colin at July 22, 2017 06:46 PM (7/EbC)

168 158 Your tax dollars at work: A welfare sponge "thanks" you:

http://moonbattery.com/?p=86305

Enjoy.
Posted by: RKae at July 22, 2017 06:29 PM (NQNOa)



It's well past time to cut off every penny to them. If they don't or won't work let them starve to death
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 22, 2017 06:39 PM (auHtY)


That video needs to go viral, and that worthless bitch should be scrubbing toilets for 50 cents a day.

Posted by: rickl at July 22, 2017 06:47 PM (sdi6R)

169 Lived in Petaluma for a couple of years, and most of what I remember from there was the fog, and the chickens (we were in a house on a chicken ranch). Also burning my shoulder getting dressed near the wood stove (fell against the stovepipe, still have a bit of a scar), and my youngest sister being born at Letterman Army Hospital ... I think San Francisco? We left to join Dad in the Philippines about ... 1953, I think.

Posted by: empire1 at July 22, 2017 06:50 PM (7zMFe)

170 Minneapolis has lost their minds
http://pamelageller.com/2017/07/mayor-hodges-urges-muslims-to-file-hate-crimes.html/

Posted by: Skip at July 22, 2017 06:51 PM (9g/6M)

171 Possible witness to the Noor shooting. Part of it is on tape.

startribune.com/ source-witness- in-justine -damond- fatal-shooting- recorded-part-of-incident- i