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Trump Tweets Out Support for Charlie Gard;
Media Refuses to Mention


The media, strangely, chose not to report on this tweet.

Though maybe that's not so strange-- many have entirely embargoed the name "Charlie Gard" from their coverage.


Meanwhile, Francis seems to be disputing his advisory council and now saying he supports Charlie Gard's parents' right to choose what "care" is given to their child.

“He prays for them, wishing that their desire to accompany and care for their own child to the end will be respected.”

Ed Morrissey notes that the word Crux (the magazine that was quoted from) translated as "care for" is better translated as "treat," as in "medically treat:"

Veteran Vatican reporter Francis X. Rocca translates it into a more explicit reference to “treat” the baby from the official Italian-language statement..


"Treat" might be the better translation -- wordreference.com lists the first definition of the word in question (curare) as "nurse," and then "take care of." Obviously you can see the word "cure" lurking around in there.

I wouldn't get too hopeful that Francis is having a general change of heart on his liberal instincts -- he just refused to renew the term of service of a conservative Cardinal.

Posted by: Ace at 04:33 PM




Comments

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1 Hat trick

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:23 PM (Ot7+c)

2 Thats how you do that,

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:23 PM (Ot7+c)

3 Corgis summoned

Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 04:24 PM (ANIFC)

4 This pope is a marxist asshole.

What the hell happened to Benedict?

Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 04:24 PM (9A6UB)

5 Good for Trump.

Your move NHS.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 03, 2017 04:25 PM (u82oZ)

6 Willowed:

The press was running impeachment scenarios on Trump before he even took office. He has every right to treat them as his enemy. THEY endangered
democracy when they abandoned their responsibilities to play palace
guardians for 8years. It's a little late to blame Trump for it now.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:25 PM (toi7g)

7 Trump only cares because it is a white baby!

Posted by: Shannon Twat Watts at July 03, 2017 04:26 PM (phoPy)

8 The Pope is an asshole

Posted by: MAC SOG at July 03, 2017 04:26 PM (QPdNE)

9
Too late, I'm afraid.

Posted by: Onree Offputtin at July 03, 2017 04:26 PM (m9X4Y)

10 Even if the treatment was not effective for Charlie, trying it might help other babies with that condition in the future. But of course we can't try to help babies who need lots of medical care.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (FQKBL)

11 What I wouldn't give to see Air Force One land in England and whisk Charlie and his parents to the US to get medical care.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (9A6UB)

12 DT is kicking the Leftists ass with this

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (Ot7+c)

13 Getting a little tired of someone running out later and saying that el Papa was mistranslated or misunderstood. This is like the 50th time he says something outrageous then someone runs out "oh wait, no he didn't mean it that way..."

Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (39g3+)

14 Actually, someone on CNN described Trump as "inserting" himself into the Charlie Gard case.

Because caring about the family of a suffering child is weird somehow.

"Inserting" oneself into St. Trayvon's demise or the Gentle Giant of Ferguson was a-okay, though.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (PY9jH)

15 The political pope is a piece of communist shit. That Cardinal he dismissed hated his guts and had been fighting him for several years.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (mpXpK)

16 What the hell happened to Benedict?

Now THERE is a book Dan Brown should write. Because something ain't right there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (39g3+)

17 Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.

He's just a soul who's intentions are good.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (IZPn8)

18 DEATH PANELS

Posted by: Mega at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (rv0Fo)

19 Pope Frankie should issue a fatwa on the NHS doctors.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (QQ+il)

20 We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how much it "embarrassed" them.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (toi7g)

21 Go, Mr President! Living so rent free in Progressive heads he may have to declare it as income.

Posted by: 80's music fan at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (HCnEB)

22 We should offer this family asylum.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (6Ll1u)

23 Doesn't the NHS want to provide funding for tranny "men" to have wombs implanted?

Seems someone here linked that story earlier.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (PY9jH)

24 Just a clump of cells that managed to escape his mother's womb, amirite?

I bet Planned Parenthood sent out notice to all of their MSM friends to leave this story alone. It is inconvenient for socialized medicine as well as a baby's right to life. Two "third rails" in one!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM (NOIQH)

25 Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.



He's just a soul who's intentions are good.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM


I didn't understand that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM (p+Wdc)

26 In Amerigo del Sud, "curare" is some kind of poison.
Just throwing possibilities out, here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (H5rtT)

27 The Queen needs to step up on this as the Head of the Church of England.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (QQ+il)

28 I can understand the NHS saying "we have a finite amount of money, and we want to spend it where it will do the most good. This isn't a good use of the money". Hard choices like that are always required in conditions where the supply isn't infinite. However, it became another question entirely when they tried to tell the parents that they couldn't bring him to the States, when someone else was paying.

They mixed politics and medicine, and it has blown up in their faces. The only solution to problems like this is humility and the separation of politics and medicine. They failed on both counts.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (LAe3v)

29 Ed Morrissey? Trick, not treat.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (hi5+T)

30 Check out onepeterfive.com for more on what's going on with the Francis papacy.

Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (ANIFC)

31 Trump should have tweeted in a way that the MSM would have to report it:


Mika's bloody face looked incurable too but look how it healed. Little #CharlieGard deserves the same chance. #BloodyMika&PsychoJoe

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (Mouru)

32 Well, it's not as if this is the first time this has happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ABc6sVFx_M

Posted by: goozer at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (bOuUd)

33 So what do our pro-choice (D)s think about the parents wishes?

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (hi5+T)

34 According to the earlier article, the NHS isn't even letting the parents take Baby Charlie home to die, probably worried they might bolt with him to America.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (QQ+il)

35 "I wouldn't get too hopeful that Francis is having a general change of heart on his liberal instincts -- he just refused to renew the term of service of a conservative Cardinal."

Sometimes progressives in the blind servitude to their authoritarian nature get ahead of themselves miscalculating when their moral depravity will be sheepishly accepted by the common folk. Francis backed off this time. He'll make sure to test this again in the future when an appropriate situation presents itself.

Posted by: DaveD at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (P5fqQ)

36 >>
Actually, someone on CNN described Trump as "inserting" himself into the Charlie Gard case.


"Bring back our girls*!"


*Not that there was anything wrong with that cause, just that Obama and Michelle were happy to jump on that bandwagon as a vehicle to push a girls education narrative (not the pesky muslims kidnap Christian schoolgirls angle).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:32 PM (NOIQH)

37 20
We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility
on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I
DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a
child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how
much it "embarrassed" them.


Posted by: Rusty Nail


Really? Who pays?

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (LAe3v)

38 Not a Catholic so only a observation that the Pope is a product of South American socialism, he is continuing what he knows.

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (Ot7+c)

39 I didn't understand that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM


"Get off my lawn" in 4, 3, 2, ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (DMUuz)

40 We should offer this family asylum.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (6Ll1u)

---

Hawaiian judge blocks effort in 3... 2...

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:34 PM (hi5+T)

41 Really? Who pays?

The parents have a couple of million pounds Sterling.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:34 PM (QQ+il)

42 CNN has Trump Derangement Syndrome and will never stop.

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 04:34 PM (Ot7+c)

43 Really? Who pays?

We do, as always.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (IZPn8)

44 He's just a soul who's intentions are good.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (IZPn


Your Mother cares about your intentions. God may well care about your intentions.

The rest of the universe only sees the consequences of your actions.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (wB8Tg)

45 >>However, it became another question entirely when they tried to tell the
parents that they couldn't bring him to the States, when someone else
was paying.


Because state-controlled healthcare is about state CONTROL over your health.

Not just about deciding who get state paid care, it's about getting to decide who lives or dies. If something is not covered, it's not allowed even if the patient wants to pay for it.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (NOIQH)

46 Obama wouldn't give two hoots about this baby or his parents, and yet all the media can concentrate on is Trumps tweets. I expect percentage wise Trump has done far, far more acts of kindness and generosity than Obama has ever done-or will do.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (soOgU)

47 On a previous thread I suggested that the Crown would gain a lot of credibility if Elizabeth stepped in here. I envision the scene where she he is standing at the boarding ramp while baby and parents are escorted onto the Royal plane.

She'd be staring down a group of bobbies, "So, then are you going to arrest me?"

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (Sgood)

48 Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM

From what I understand, the parents are willing (and able) to foot a sizable bill.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (toi7g)

49 As a catholic, I want Benedict to come back and knock Francis out.

Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (88xKn)

50 Even if the treatment was not effective for Charlie, trying it might help other babies with that condition in the future. But of course we can't try to help babies who need lots of medical care.
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (FQKBL)

There's something really sick about the way a lot of people (not only in Europe, though they seem to be really concentrated there) seem to have raised euthanasia up as some amazingly wonderful thing. It doesn't strike them how ridiculous a phrase like "dying with dignity" sounds. If I'm dead, I'm unlikely to care how dignified my exit was.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (PMt8D)

51 Teresa May shyould open her pie hole and tell NHS to get bent and let these parents bring Charlie over here for the experimental treatment.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (a0IVu)

52 What's the Italian language equivalent for 'blow it out your ass?'

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (Jj+59)

53 The Pope is a Socialist/uberlib, I am a conservative Catholic, I take comfort in the fact that he will not be Pope forever and that the Church will continue with or without him. I pray for him anyway.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (zZWkn)

54 Would this be a question if these parents were politicians?

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (hi5+T)

55 Really? Who pays?

We do, as always.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (IZPn

Wrong. The parents raised the money for the treatment.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (PMt8D)

56 If anyone knows someone who knows someone who knows someone in the White House, suggest President Trump lobby Prime Minister May for the release of this little boy. Then send over the President's own personal jet "Trump Force One" to pick up him and his parents and fly them to the United States for his treatment. Not only would it be the right thing to do morally, it would create an absolute international SENSATION and rebound very positively for the President. It would also drive the Democrats-liberals-media INSANE because: a) It would make President Trump look good; b) It would highlight the failures of "single-payer" health care; c) It also proves Sarah Palin EXACTLY right about her prediction of socialized medicine inevitably resulting in "death panels."

Posted by: Kebas at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (kwsnd)

57 Our media is nothing amoralistic fucking pigs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (89T5c)

58 49 As a catholic, I want Benedict to come back and knock Francis out.
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (88xKn)

..and as a Catholic I am LMAO.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Official Amy Winehouse addict' at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (31vnC)

59 41
Really? Who pays?



The parents have a couple of million pounds Sterling.

Posted by: Grump928(c)


As long as American tax dollars aren't involved in any way, but I don't see how that's possible if they're using American facilities.

Besides, if the Brits were willing to tell a family that they couldn't take the child to the States, it's unlikely that they'll let American doctors do the procedure there. It is a JOINT Air Base we're talking about, not sovereign territory like an Embassy.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (LAe3v)

60 The MFM may not have covered this story but The Hill covered it this morning.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (mpXpK)

61 We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how much it "embarrassed" them.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (toi7g)


Way simpler and cheaper to just fly them to the US.

The parents can pay for the treatment, I wouldn't object to a few plane tickets from the US govt.

I wouldn't even object to a US helicopter flying them straight from the hospital to the airport. It'd be expensive, but good training (urban landing and traffic), and great publicity.

The US hospital would be a better place to treat, anyway, and they've already made contacts and are better prepared for it. It's not a boo-boo, it's a severe genetic disorder.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (wB8Tg)

62 As I understand it the British health service doesn't want to spend the resources keeping the kid alive for as long as it would take to transfer him to the USA. Plus, I suspect there are a lot of docs there saying "waste of time, don't put the parents through this."

But doing stuff like saying "we'll allow you more time with your child" that's just ... wrong on every level.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (39g3+)

63 I pray for him anyway.
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (zZWkn)

Good. That's a various positive approach and you can also ask Pope (Saint) John Paul II to intercede for him

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:38 PM (soOgU)

64 Recall that when Trump first signed the travel ban EO, NY Gov. Cuomo used an Iranian baby girl who was coming to the US for a heart surgery to score points against cruel, heartless Trump.

They are happy to use immigrant babies to score points. How dare Trump take interest in a white, British baby?!


Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (NOIQH)

65 As long as American tax dollars aren't involved in any way, but I don't see how that's possible if they're using American facilities.

I imagine the incremental cost would be trivial.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (QQ+il)

66 However, it became another question entirely when they tried to tell the
parents that they couldn't bring him to the States, when someone else
was paying.


Because state-controlled healthcare is about state CONTROL over your health.

Not just about deciding who get state paid care, it's about getting to decide who lives or dies. If something is not covered, it's not allowed even if the patient wants to pay for it.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (NOIQH)

It's amazing to me that Sarah Palin (who can be ridiculous, in all fairness) was lambasted endlessly over describing socialized medicine as leading to death panels, and no one has pointed out that instances like this prove that she was totally correct.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (PMt8D)

67
Wrong. The parents raised the money for the treatment.
Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:37 PM (PMt8D)

I believe like 1.5 Mil on a GoFund.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'Official Amy Winehouse addict' at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (31vnC)

68 49 As a catholic, I want Benedict to come back and knock Francis out.
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (88xKn)

Will do!

Posted by: Cardinal LL Cool J at July 03, 2017 04:40 PM (B11vO)

69 RAF Lakenheath has a great hospital. Just saying

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 04:40 PM (89T5c)

70 Deltas fastroping into the hospital to spirit Baby Charlie away would be pretty cool too.

Go for it, Donald.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (QQ+il)

71 I wouldn't even object to a US helicopter flying them straight from the hospital to the airport.

Nah, I know a Brit helo guy who'd take care of that. Compassionate sort, has kids of his own. And the Queen has a pretty good in with him.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (H5rtT)

72
Way simpler and cheaper to just fly them to the US.



The parents can pay for the treatment, I wouldn't object to a few plane tickets from the US govt.


I could be wrong about this, but it was my understanding that the Brit NHS forbade them from taking him to the States. I don't know how seriously that would be enforced. It would be worse than Elian Gonzalez.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (LAe3v)

73 Publicly Elian Gonzalez a dozen or so illegals out of here and make a big point that now this little boy won't cost anything extra.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (hi5+T)

74 As a catholic, I want Benedict to come back and knock Francis out.

"Mary said knock you out!"
-L.L. Cool Benedict

Frankly, Benedict was terrifying looking but seemed like a much better man than this new dude.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (39g3+)

75 They are happy to use immigrant babies to score points. How dare Trump take interest in a white, British baby?!


Yeah, I was wondering how the Left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) would demonize Trump for trying to save a sick baby. That's it. White privilege.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (Mouru)

76 64
Recall that when Trump first signed the travel ban EO, NY Gov. Cuomo
used an Iranian baby girl who was coming to the US for a heart surgery
to score points against cruel, heartless Trump.

They are happy to use immigrant babies to score points. How dare Trump take interest in a white, British baby?!




Posted by: Lizzy at July 03, 2017 04:39 PM (NOIQH)

That makes Cuomo a liar because the travel ban did not apply to those situations.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (mpXpK)

77 I don't know how seriously that would be enforced.

Pretty seriously. They won't let the parents take the boy home to die, lest they flee.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (QQ+il)

78 Can't you just see that beautiful jet emblazoned with "Trump" on all networks worldwide as it lands in London to rescue this child!

Posted by: Kebas at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (kwsnd)

79 It doesn't strike them how ridiculous a phrase like "dying with dignity" sounds. If I'm dead, I'm unlikely to care how dignified my exit was.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at July 03, 2017 04:36 PM (PMt8D)


To Hell with quetly and cheaply slipping away, if the afterlife wants me they can fucking come and get me, and they had better pack a lunch.

Came for me twice in the last eight years and I'M STILL HERE BITCHES!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:42 PM (wB8Tg)

80 But the US healthcare ranks way down when compared to other Western countries. Why would anyone want to come here for treatment? /s

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)

81 Didn't Pope Frankie previously release an almost-comically mealy-mouthed statement about what a complex situation this is, blah blah blah?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (0mRoj)

82 77
I don't know how seriously that would be enforced.



Pretty seriously. They won't let the parents take the boy home to die, lest they flee.

Posted by: Grump928(c)


So they're not going to let the parents take him to a US military hospital, whether in the UK or the US. The cost is moot.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (LAe3v)

83 C-9 Trump Medevac

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 04:44 PM (89T5c)

84 80
But the US healthcare ranks way down when compared to other Western
countries. Why would anyone want to come here for treatment? /s

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)

that is because the rating system is rigged by liberal assholes who can not admit the US does anything good.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:44 PM (mpXpK)

85 Is it me or does it seem like people named Stephen Miller know how to slice like a fucking hammer?

Posted by: Gaylord Farkemall at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (+dsLj)

86 If John Paul interceding means rising from the dead and bitch slapping the shit out of Francis, I'd be cool with that.

Posted by: John Marston at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (phoPy)

87 This is what the left wants for us, it may be a baby this time but will be an elderly person next time. Thinking that it will never be used for them, because they are the elites and they have to run everything.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (6Ll1u)

88 I could be wrong about this, but it was my understanding that the Brit NHS forbade them from taking him to the States. I don't know how seriously that would be enforced. It would be worse than Elian Gonzalez.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (LAe3v)

The baby's on lockdown at the hospital. They won't even let his parents move him to hospice. They are just that totalitarian.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)

89 So they're not going to let the parents take him to a US military hospital, whether in the UK or the US.

That's the horror of the story. People, even children sadly, die everyday. This is a child being put down like an animal, for political reasons.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (QQ+il)

90 She'd be staring down a group of bobbies, "So, then are you going to arrest me?"
Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:35 PM (Sgood)

It is a beautiful image; make it so queen Lizzy!

Such a tragic story, I hope the NHS gets a cluebat to the head before it's too late.

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (hvf9s)

91 If you are waiting for the Left to be consistent, at least you'll be around to read the novel the room full of monkeys would have written.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (IDPbH)

92 My heart is broken for Charlie Gard and his parents.

Dear God, if it is your will to take Charlie, please reunite them someday in Heaven where they may live eternally without pain or mortal imperfections, in the light of your perfect love.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (4AVeu)

93 92
My heart is broken for Charlie Gard and his parents.



Dear God, if it is your will to take Charlie, please reunite them
someday in Heaven where they may live eternally without pain or mortal
imperfections, in the light of your perfect love.



Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 03, 2017 04:46 PM (4AVeu)
Amen. My heart is breaking too...been saying a lot of rosary prayers for this little guy.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (a0IVu)

94 that is because the rating system is rigged by liberal assholes who can not admit the US does anything good.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 03, 2017 04:44 PM (mpXpK)

Infant mortality is one of the most glaring examples. Our statistics include all babies. Everyone else jukes their stats by not counting babies below a certain birthweight, or sometimes IIRC those that die within a short time from birth.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (0mRoj)

95 Actually, someone on CNN described Trump as "inserting" himself into the Charlie Gard case.

Because caring about the family of a suffering child is weird somehow.

"Inserting" oneself into St. Trayvon's demise or the Gentle Giant of Ferguson was a-okay, though.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM (PY9jH)
---------------
THE LEFT inserted themselves into Everyones health care , babies , mens and womens vaginas,.. Obama is right now inserting himself in s korea on his own.
The Left have inserted themselves into our homes, if we're allowed to smoke, or even Think by ourselves.
The Left has inserted themselves into our childrens sexuality.

but Trump What!?

oh yeah inserted himself into the lefts idea that a baby has a Right To Life!

Posted by: willow at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (v12G8)

96 The Queen is no better than Francis in these kind of issues anyway--and I'll give Frankie a slight benefit of the doubt because bad translations sometimes lead the liberals to jump the gun on Frankie's words.

i doubt The Queen would insinuate herself into this and make her government look bad....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (7uYFy)

97 I don't want Benedict back even though I was once one of his greatest admirers. I don't like quitters. His abdication is what gave us this horrible pope. It was a grave error in judgement IMO.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (Rsi2C)

98 This also illustrates who owns you and your kids under socialism. The government tells you what you can and cannot do, in everything.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (FQKBL)

99 Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (0mRoj)

I don't think they count those that die within 48 hours or 72 hours. I forget which.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (IDPbH)

100 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

Posted by: Mega at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (rv0Fo)

101 Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (a0IVu)

That's wonderful of both you and Adirondack Patriot! :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (soOgU)

102 Didn't Pope Frankie previously release an almost-comically mealy-mouthed statement about what a complex situation this is, blah blah blah?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (0mRoj)


Yes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (XNL5i)

103 Maybe the Left doesn't want an honest Discussion at all, On Govt Health Care?

how about locking mommy and daddy iout of the room while baby dies by Their standsards of care?

Posted by: willow at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (v12G8)

104 As this is happening, I'm seriously considering moving to Ireland.

Even though I know the health care I'd get there sucks, I have 20x the family and 20x the safety net.

Counting my blessings, at least it's too small of a country to ever institute single payer. 4 million people isn't enough of a risk pool.

Posted by: Oschisms at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (70QTT)

105 This case strikes close to home for me. My family has a Genetic disorder (not fatal but life altering for sure) that runs straight through me into my Son (he is mildly effected now but will get worse) if the government were to tell me he(or myself) could not get care because there is no cure I would go postal. It would not end well. Fuck socialized medicine.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (zZWkn)

106 Nah, I know a Brit helo guy who'd take care of that. Compassionate sort, has kids of his own. And the Queen has a pretty good in with him.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at July 03, 2017 04:41 PM (H5rtT)


That would work too, if the Royals would stand up to the bureaucracy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 04:50 PM (wB8Tg)

107 The Queen needs to step up on this as the Head of the Church of England.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:31 PM (QQ+il)



There is still a C of E?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 03, 2017 04:50 PM (auHtY)

108 Maybe the Left doesn't want an honest Discussion at all, On Govt Health Care?


Nail. Head. Assembly complete.

Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (LAe3v)

109 For all his problems - this kid I'd still alive! Fight'n like a mthfkr!

Leftists can't have a potential Alpha male live.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (LnIG2)

110 101
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:47 PM (a0IVu)



That's wonderful of both you and Adirondack Patriot! :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (soOgU)
I try to write down prayer intentions every morning and dedicate to those more deserving than me, Fen. I don't succeed all the time but I give it my best shot.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (a0IVu)

111 I don't want Benedict back even though I was once one of his greatest admirers. I don't like quitters. His abdication is what gave us this horrible pope. It was a grave error in judgement IMO.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (Rsi2C)

I liked Benedict too. I liked that he was an intellectual and yet, very conservative. But the reality is he's a very frail old man and it's *possible* he's not even aware of what's going on in his Church--or what's going on, period.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (7uYFy)

112 There is still a C of E?

and always will be, Inshallah.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (QQ+il)

113 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

Not this Democrat! :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (soOgU)

114 Even if the treatment was not effective for Charlie, trying it might help other babies with that condition in the future. But of course we can't try to help babies who need lots of medical care.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (FQKBL)


This is the other point that never got put forth adequately in my opinion. Even if the child is 99.9% terminal, the treatment might work and the NHS doesn't have to pay out one single taxpayer pence for the travel or treatment. Furthermore, even if the treatment doesn't work, the information about learned about the treatment might save many other lives in the future, and rather than the child "dying passively with dignity", the child might die actively fighting to pull through from an experimental cure.

BUT Do Not Challenge the Authority of the State in Life And Death Matters!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (gwPgz)

115 This is all terribly sad but unsurprising which is also sad.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (Rsi2C)

116 Francis is one of the garbage popes that the Catholic church will be lucky to survive.

Red Frankie must have been made to realize that the Church's position made them look like the biggest hypocrites on earth.

Last Sunday my son refused to go to mass, and said if letting Charlie Gard die against his parents' wishes was supported by official church position he didn't want to be a Catholic anymore. I felt the same way.

Posted by: Gem at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (uaHyk)

117 Not this Democrat! :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (soOgU)


Sorry Fen, you are NOT a "True Democrat!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (gwPgz)

118 >>> i doubt The Queen would insinuate herself into this and make her government look bad....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:48 PM (7uYFy)

If the government doesn't already look bad, via the NHS torpedoing themselves with the bad press of "allowing" a parent time with their dying child, I can't imagine what looking bad would ACTUALLY look like.

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (hvf9s)

119 I don't want Benedict back even though I was once one of his greatest admirers. I don't like quitters. His abdication is what gave us this horrible pope. It was a grave error in judgement IMO.



I'm reserving judgment on his application. I still don't believe he left under his own free will. I think he was forced out under the threat of death.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (0R8lo)

120 I didn't understand that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:30 PM

"Get off my lawn" in 4, 3, 2, ...


Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM


Did I really need the sarc tag on that?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (p+Wdc)

121 There is still a C of E?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 03, 2017 04:50 PM (auHtY)

There is Church. And there is an England. So, yeah.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (7uYFy)

122 Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM (a0IVu)

I'm sure you do. It is hard to keep up with everything that happens here (I find it so) but I believe in prayer and am always glad to hear when people are doing that!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (soOgU)

123 Posted by: Oschisms at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (70QTT)

Ireland is beautiful and they tried the free market / low tax thing that revamped their economy but started reverting back just a bit. People just don't learn.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (IDPbH)

124
Why, it's almost as if the media are obsessed, spoiled brats.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (kusha)

125 Maybe the Left doesn't want an honest Discussion at all, On Govt Health Care?
---

We will discuss:

1. Abortion all the time, for everyone
2. Government funded tranny surgeries
3. Euthanasia
4. Government funded birth control
5. Government funded medical care of illegals and criminals
6. The Glorious Medical Care available in Cuba

Any other topic is off limits

Posted by: The Left at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (aT+Bx)

126 If the government doesn't already look bad, via the NHS torpedoing themselves with the bad press of "allowing" a parent time with their dying child, I can't imagine what looking bad would ACTUALLY look like.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (hvf9s)

Oh I agree with you. My point is--when has the Queen EVER "stepped up" and insinuated herself into either English politics--or Anglican matters?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (7uYFy)

127 Came for me twice in the last eight years and I'M STILL HERE BITCHES!

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Stay away from the salmon mousse!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (kTF2Z)

128 125 Maybe the Left doesn't want an honest Discussion at all, On Govt Health Care?
---

We will discuss:

1. Abortion all the time, for everyone
2. Government funded tranny surgeries
3. Euthanasia
4. Government funded birth control
5. Government funded medical care of illegals and criminals
6. The Glorious Medical Care available in Cuba

Any other topic is off limits
Posted by: The Left at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (aT+Bx)

Next on the list: intrauterine prenatal gender reassignment surgery.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:55 PM (0mRoj)

129 Yet the MFM persists in seeing themselves as the Samizdat.
They persist in seeing themselves as heroic while contempt for them grows.

Posted by: Northernlurker at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (TisfY)

130 Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (gwPgz)

Thanks!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (soOgU)

131 If the government doesn't already look bad, via the NHS torpedoing themselves with the bad press of "allowing" a parent time with their dying child, I can't imagine what looking bad would ACTUALLY look like.
--

Yesterday, it was reported that the NHS wants to public to pay for woman transplants for trannies, and that they consider this a top priority (over cancer) since it involves "equality."

Infertile women were not asked their opinions.

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (aT+Bx)

132 The baby's on lockdown at the hospital. They won't even let his parents move him to hospice. They are just that totalitarian.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)


NHS: We know what it means to "die with dignity" and we'll show you how it's done!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (gwPgz)

133 I want to put a Nancy Pelosi mask on Kat Timpf and pile drive her into the mat. She offers nothing but tits on a stick and smart glasses.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)

134 They persist in seeing themselves as heroic while contempt for them grows.
---

Things like that happen when you're mentally ill.

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (aT+Bx)

135 The former archbishop of LA was a rabid leftist and general pita. Francis is cut from the same cloth. 98% of the Irish Catholics I know are unrepentant leftist progressive shitheads. I'm good friends with a few of them.

I get tired of their political bull-s .... and wonder, more than a little, at how they manage to juggle the temporal and spiritual.

Posted by: 13times at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (WHVu+)

136 132 The baby's on lockdown at the hospital. They won't even let his parents move him to hospice. They are just that totalitarian.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)

NHS: We know what it means to "die with dignity" and we'll show you how it's done!
Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (gwPgz)

Pretty much. "With dignity" means "when we tell you, where we tell you and how we tell you."

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (0mRoj)

137 >>> Oh I agree with you. My point is--when has the Queen EVER "stepped up" and insinuated herself into either English politics--or Anglican matters?
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:54 PM (7uYFy)

Ah, gotcha. True, I can't think of any cases of stepping up, other than during WW2 which was ages ago. But she's a grandma, would she passively let NHS do this if baby George, heir to the throne, was dying of a fatal disease? Methinks not.

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (hvf9s)

138 I want to put a Nancy Pelosi mask on Kat Timpf and
pile drive her into the mat. She offers nothing but tits on a stick and
smart glasses.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)


I cannot watch her. Gutfeld is dead to me when she is on. Same with The Specialists. I have no idea what she's supposed to offer.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (PY9jH)

139 I liked Benedict too. I liked that he was an intellectual and yet, very conservative. But the reality is he's a very frail old man and it's *possible* he's not even aware of what's going on in his Church--or what's going on, period.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:51 PM
****
Yes, that is the argument that many of his supporters use so as not to condemn a truly great man. As a Catholic, I believe that God protects the Church despite the humanity, frailty, and mental capacity of the occupant that holds the office. The gates of hell will not prevail against, Christ promised and assured us. We survived the Borgias. We will survive this horrible Vicar.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)

140 JoeF @ #126 ---

And maybe that's the case of some of Britian's problems. It's time - and past time - for the Crown to assert itself.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at July 03, 2017 04:59 PM (LnIG2)

141 I want to put a Nancy Pelosi mask on Kat Timpf and pile drive her into the mat. She offers nothing but tits on a stick and smart glasses.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)

Tits?
(looks at Kat Timpf)
There's no tits there....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 04:59 PM (7uYFy)

142 >>But she's a grandma, would she passively let NHS do this if baby George, heir to the throne, was dying of a fatal disease? Methinks not.

The Royal family has a private doctor because of course they do. Elites always exempt themselves from the policies they force on us little people.

Yet another reason we got Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (/tuJf)

143 We should offer this family asylum.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 04:29 PM (6Ll1u)

Fly the whole family out of England on U.S. diplomatic passports. Then announce that due to taking on three Britons, 60 fewer muslims will be permitted entry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (XUcIQ)

144 Apparently to the Left, some dreams are dreamier than others.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (hKi6n)

145 No one has discussed what a very good body slam Trump put on the the eventual CNN head guy. Somewhat impressive. Anyone know how old that clip is?

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (IDPbH)

146 100 Daily Reminder: Democrats are guided by Satan.

FIFY
Posted by: Mega at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (rv0Fo)

Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (brIR5)

147 The NHS is perfect for a country that prefers to call its residents to be called subjects!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 05:00 PM (gwPgz)

148 JackStraw bringing the truly disturbing kink sex talk.

Posted by: John Marston at July 03, 2017 05:01 PM (phoPy)

149 >>> Yesterday, it was reported that the NHS wants to public to pay for woman transplants for trannies, and that they consider this a top priority (over cancer) since it involves "equality."

OVER cancer?? To quote a Brit: "O, that way madness lies."

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:01 PM (hvf9s)

150
25 Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.

He's just a soul whose intentions are good.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at July 03, 2017 04:28 PM


Turnin' his life around. Gentle moral giant. C'mon, MSM, you know you have those phrases already loaded up and "hot keyed".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 03, 2017 05:01 PM (pNxlR)

151 I cannot watch her. Gutfeld is dead to me when she is on. Same with The Specialists. I have no idea what she's supposed to offer.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (PY9jH)

She's always trying to argue with Bolling. I think there's a weird father/daughter dynamic there, like she wants to prove to him how smart she is...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (7uYFy)

152 Trump should call Charlie Low IQ with shitty plastic surgery, maybe then the press would care.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (6n332)

153 Yesterday, it was reported that the NHS wants to public to pay for woman transplants for trannies, and that they consider this a top priority (over cancer) since it involves "equality."

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 04:56 PM (aT+Bx)

---------------

Newsflash to the NHS. That scene from Lif of Brian was a PARODY.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (kTF2Z)

154 Timpf is a nevertrump clown.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)

155 Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 04:57 PM (/tuJf)

I know what pile driver means in this context, but there is a place near me that sells something called a pile driverr-a breakfast sandwich on an English muffin with thick bacon, eggs, garlic butter and cheddar cheese so All I can think of is you covering her completely with Pile drivers, which is actually funnier image than the one you have in mind. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 05:03 PM (soOgU)

156 The baby's on lockdown at the hospital. They won't even let his parents move him to hospice. They are just that totalitarian.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 04:45 PM (0mRoj)



At least North Korea lets the kids starve to death at home with their parents.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:03 PM (Mouru)

157 As a Protestant I really haven't paid attention to the Pope much like a lot of Catholics these days. Well at least not to the other Popes. They were too Catholicy.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:03 PM (IDPbH)

158 >>JackStraw bringing the truly disturbing kink sex talk.

No palomino here. The woman is a complete airhead and is a horrible ambassador for the right.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:04 PM (/tuJf)

159 They are silent on it becaue they don't want the peons here to know what they can expect with single payer.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 03, 2017 05:04 PM (hVdx9)

160 Timpf is a nevertrump clown.
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)

She's annoying as hell. I hope FOX doesn't think they are pulling in young, hip viewers with her schtick...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:04 PM (7uYFy)

161 As a Protestant I really haven't paid attention to the Pope much like a lot of Catholics these days. Well at least not to the other Popes. They were too Catholicy.


Catholicy is a job requirement when you're applying for pope, or at least it used to be.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Mouru)

162 I'm reserving judgment on his application. I still don't believe he left under his own free will. I think he was forced out under the threat of death.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM (0R8lo)
****
I can respect that viewpoint. I'll offer another one: If he was forced out under the threat of death, he had the choice to accept martyrdom like our first pope, Peter, did and many of the early ones did. Thankfully, I won't get to be the ultimate judge of his decision bc I'm not sure that I would have accepted the alternative I just suggested. But it's what Chrust asks of us all. Of course, we were created with the gift of free will so our final fate will be determined by how we exercised our free will and what choices we made.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)

163 Elizabeth has already come down on the side of immigration opposed to the government so she's not afraid to shame them, not that it means anything to anyone. World's richest welfare recipient. I mean I like the old lady but that's all she is really these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)

164 This little boy's story is breaking my heart. My youngest is about the same age, and I can tell you in deadly seriousness that if some bureaucrat tried to tell me I couldn't pursue a treatment he needed, I would kill them. And I don't mean that metaphorically. I mean that I would literally murder that person. With no remorse.

The practical side of me gets that there's no chance. But the parent side gets that if there's a 0.00000000001% chance for your baby, you fucking take it because that is your baby.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)

165 123 Posted by: Oschisms at July 03, 2017 04:49 PM (70QTT)

Ireland is beautiful and they tried the free market / low tax thing that revamped their economy but started reverting back just a bit. People just don't learn.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:53 PM (IDPbH)

And the EU has the sass :cry over the tax deal they did with Apple to induce them to move to Ireland.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (brIR5)

166 162, Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)

Well said. Would we all have the courage of the first Pope.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (a0IVu)

167 Is it me or does it seem like people named Stephen Miller know how to slice like a fucking hammer?

He claims they call him the Space Cowboy, but the rest of the band says nobody does.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (39g3+)

168 Why do the Progressives want Charlie to die? Because we Deplorables want him to live.

Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (ANIFC)

169 I want to put a Nancy Pelosi mask on Kat Timpf and pile drive her into
the mat. She offers nothing but tits on a stick and smart glasses.

Posted by: JackStraw
****

A Nancy Pelosi mask is but one way to prevent premature ejaculation.
There are other, less nauseating, ways I hear...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (hVdx9)

170 EU has the sads [:cry]

Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (brIR5)

171 161 As a Protestant I really haven't paid attention to the Pope much like a lot of Catholics these days. Well at least not to the other Popes. They were too Catholicy.


Catholicy is a job requirement when you're applying for pope, or at least it used to be.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Mouru)

Yes and that's what Catholics like Pelosi didn't like.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (IDPbH)

172 The Dutch now want to euthanize healthy people.

Slippery slope, anyone?

http://moonbattery.com/?p=85766

Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (gQyp8)

173 Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)

whoa.

Blast from the past.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (/tuJf)

174 I can respect that viewpoint. I'll offer another one: If he was forced out under the threat of death, he had the choice to accept martyrdom like our first pope, Peter, did and many of the early ones did. Thankfully, I won't get to be the ultimate judge of his decision bc I'm not sure that I would have accepted the alternative I just suggested. But it's what Chrust asks of us all. Of course, we were created with the gift of free will so our final fate will be determined by how we exercised our free will and what choices we made.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)

I have a feeling Benedict was facing the Vatican version of "The Resistance" from the day he became Pope. He probably was made to understand that nothing he wanted to do would get done....

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (7uYFy)

175 He claims they call him the Space Cowboy, but the rest of the band says nobody does.

He'll always be Maurice to me.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (QQ+il)

176 World's richest welfare recipient. I mean I like the old lady but that's all she is really these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (39g3+)



The monarchy is still a big tourist draw. QEII almost makes up for the lack of a Disney theme park in Britain.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (Mouru)

177 >>> We survived the Borgias. We will survive this horrible Vicar.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)

AND the Medicis, who turned banking, politics and the papacy into a family business. Prayers to the Catholics in the Horde that this too shall pass.

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (hvf9s)

178 Third time's the charm

Posted by: Fox2! at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (brIR5)

179 80 But the US healthcare ranks way down when compared to other Western countries. Why would anyone want to come here for treatment? /s
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)


------------

Maybe they should take the baby to Cuba which has the best healthcare in the world.

Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (Fmupd)

180 Mrs Peel going with extreme prejudice. Never mess with mama bear.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:10 PM (IDPbH)

181 That's a very good way of putting it, Mrs. Peel. Charlie isn't the son of anyone in the NHS, so why should they care? A real journalist could probably find an interesting story here.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at July 03, 2017 05:10 PM (FQKBL)

182 Yes and that's what Catholics like Pelosi didn't like.
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (IDPbH)

See? You don't have to be a Catholic to see what's going on. Pelosi--like Biden, assorted Kennedys and others --want to be Catholic to appeal to what's left of the old ward-healer type Democrats. But if forced to choose their "faith" over their political power?
No contest.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:10 PM (7uYFy)

183 I got pleasure from the story about the Indian American running against the American Indian Elizabeth Warren. He sent her a 23 and Me testing kit.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (6Ll1u)

184 AND the Medicis, who turned banking, politics and the papacy into a family business. Prayers to the Catholics in the Horde that this too shall pass.
Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (hvf9s)
*****
Thank you for the prayers for all us stuck with the Church. I left for 3 yrs and came back this last Easter. I hate being Catholic. Thanks for the mention of the Medicis. I forgot about them. Different kind of badness, but still bad.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Rsi2C)

185 We survived the Borgias. We will survive this horrible Vicar.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)


You're thinking of my nephew. I wasn't so bad.

Posted by: Callixtus III at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Mouru)

186 179 80 But the US healthcare ranks way down when compared to other Western countries. Why would anyone want to come here for treatment? /s
Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 04:43 PM (IDPbH)


------------

Maybe they should take the baby to Cuba which has the best healthcare in the world.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 05:09 PM (Fmupd)

I love the sarcasm but after putting on my conspiracy hat, I think one of the reasons they don't want him to come to the United States is the possibility , however slight, that we may be successful. That can't be allowed.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:13 PM (IDPbH)

187 Hi JackStraw! I was thinking about you and your big golden just the other day. Hope you're doing well.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:13 PM (JPRju)

188 Perhaps the Queen could show up at the offices of the bureaucrat responsible for this fiasco and grant him a knighthood:

I dub thee Sir AssHat.[/]

Posted by: An Observation at July 03, 2017 05:13 PM (+uLgy)

189 So Trump is more pro-life than the Pope...

Things can change quickly in this world.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (MuTTO)

190 We survived the Borgias. We will survive this horrible Vicar.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)


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In a way, Francis is worse. The bad Popes of the late Middle Ages / Renaissance may have been bad people, but they didn't try to rewrite the faith, unlike Francis.

Posted by: josephistan at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (ANIFC)

191 I dub thee Sir AssHat


Lord Tinypenis.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (QQ+il)

192 Thank you for the prayers for all us stuck with the Church. I left for 3 yrs and came back this last Easter. I hate being Catholic. Thanks for the mention of the Medicis. I forgot about them. Different kind of badness, but still bad.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Rsi2C)

No 2,000 earthly institution is going to have entirely clean hands. And don't forget, the papacy was a temporal power with lands and armies and all that entails...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (7uYFy)

193 172 The Dutch now want to euthanize healthy people.

Slippery slope, anyone?

http://moonbattery.com/?p=85766

Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (gQyp

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The Dutch are simply saving their future Muslim masters the trouble.

Posted by: William Eaton at July 03, 2017 05:15 PM (MuTTO)

194 The practical side of me gets that there's no chance. But the parent side gets that if there's a 0.00000000001% chance for your baby, you fucking take it because that is your baby.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)


Low-risk low-reward is how you survive in a mud hut.

High-risk high-reward is how you reach the stars.

I think someday more Mothers will realize this.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 05:15 PM (wB8Tg)

195 >>> I got pleasure from the story about the Indian American running against the American Indian Elizabeth Warren. He sent her a 23 and Me testing kit.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (6Ll1u)

It is trolltastic, yes! He might not have accomplished all the tech things he claims, but I love his chutzpah. Hope he scalps the Lieawatha in votes at the election.

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (hvf9s)

196 So Trump is more pro-life than the Pope...
Things can change quickly in this world.
Posted by: William Eaton at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM (MuTTO)
*****
Isn't that something? Never thought I'd see the day when could be true.
That's an unfortunate hash unless you are doggie lover.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (Rsi2C)

197 Trump needs to fly over to the UK in Air Force One, land, take a limo to the great Ormond Street Hospital, and literally kidnap the baby. Put him in the diplomatic pouch, if necessary, so the kidnap can not be legally stopped. Get him on the plane and take off back to the U.S.

He could be re-elected literally forever, if the did that.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (DQ4Fv)

198 172 The Dutch now want to euthanize healthy people.

Slippery slope, anyone?

http://moonbattery.com/?p=85766

Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:07 PM (gQyp

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The Dutch are simply saving their future Muslim masters the trouble.
Posted by: William Eaton

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Getting out of the way and leaving the infrastructure intact.

It's the polite thing to do.

Posted by: RKae at July 03, 2017 05:16 PM (gQyp8)

199 Jack Sock is right. Remember how much they praised their health system at the olympics a few years ago? If the US system were able to save this boy, or even prolong his life, the Brits would have egg all over their faces. Can't have that, now can we?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 05:17 PM (kTF2Z)

200 He'll always be Maurice to me.
Posted by: Grump928
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Well now, some may call me, Moe
Some may call me, Joe
Just remember Speedo
He don't never take it slow

Well now, they often call me Speedo
But my real name is Mr. Earl

Posted by: The Cadillacs, irrelavently at July 03, 2017 05:18 PM (OdK9v)

201 The monarchy is still a big tourist draw. QEII almost makes up for the lack of a Disney theme park in Britain.

This is true, Nobles and Royals are kind of a history-themed amusement park. Come see our castle! Gaze in wonder at the carefully manicured lawns! View our paintings. Oh God, what have we become...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:18 PM (39g3+)

202 Oh, the media has finally noticed the story:

NBC's Matt Bradley accused Donald Trump Monday of using Charlie Gard's parents' grief in order to further his own political agenda.

Yep. Thoroughly diseased.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 03, 2017 05:18 PM (udajc)

203 That's an unfortunate hash unless you are doggie lover.

He just likes lamb a lot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:19 PM (39g3+)

204 >>Hi JackStraw! I was thinking about you and your big golden just the other day. Hope you're doing well.

Hi Mrs. Peel. Nice to see you again. And a baby? Congratulations!

Unfortunately, I lost the big guy last year but I have a new puppy to drive me crazy.

Don't be a stranger, come back and visit when you can.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:19 PM (/tuJf)

205 I've mentioned my favorite female comedian, maybe my favorite overall, Kathy Madigan . Very Irish Catholic family. She has a bit where she's talking with her mother who is optimistic that the new Pope will finally do something about the molestation issues. She tells her mom not to get her hopes up . The Church just recently apologized to the Russian Orthodox Church for the spat they had 600 years ago. That's the file they're up to now.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (IDPbH)

206 No 2,000 earthly institution is going to have entirely clean hands. And don't forget, the papacy was a temporal power with lands and armies and all that entails...
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:14 PM
****
Yes, all true. The Church really has evolved just not on the moral teachings that the Godless Left want to see thrown out the window

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (Rsi2C)

207 The practical side of me gets that there's no chance. But the parent side gets that if there's a 0.00000000001% chance for your baby, you fucking take it because that is your baby.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel
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Ah. There's your mistake. It's our baby.

Posted by: The NHS at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (OdK9v)

208 Can we trade Mika and Joe for little Charlie?

Posted by: ShainS at July 03, 2017 05:21 PM (TDpLU)

209 It bothers me that the governments concerns are even taken into account with respect to this child, much less being supreme.

Posted by: Javems at July 03, 2017 05:21 PM (yOqwj)

210 Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby.

Thank the Lord.

Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)

211 208
Can we trade Mika and Joe for little Charlie?

Posted by: ShainS at July 03, 2017 05:21 PM (TDpLU)
I'd throw in some money too.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (a0IVu)

212 Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby.

Does that matter?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (QQ+il)

213 185 We survived the Borgias. We will survive this horrible Vicar.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 04:58 PM (Rsi2C)

You're thinking of my nephew. I wasn't so bad.
Posted by: Callixtus III at July 03, 2017 05:12 PM (Mouru)

The Dirty Vicar?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (0mRoj)

214 210
Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby.



Thank the Lord.

Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)
And? Can they try the experimental treatment there? Or are they just offering hospice care?

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (a0IVu)

215 Ah. There's your mistake. It's our baby.

Posted by: The NHS at July 03, 2017 05:20 PM (OdK9v)


The designation "Subjects" sort of captures the whole essence of the NHS!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (gwPgz)

216 Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby.

Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)


I *wanna* celebrate, but...

If *they* don't immediately let the parents take the kid to the US, Imma lose my shit.

The NHS has already imposed possibly lethal delays.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 03, 2017 05:24 PM (wB8Tg)

217 ****
Yes, all true. The Church really has evolved just not on the moral teachings that the Godless Left want to see thrown out the window
Posted by: L, Elle
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See: The Episcopal Church. Spiritual activism abandoned to social activism. Oddly, it is dying on the vine. The progressives that remain do not care.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:24 PM (kusha)

218 Will NHS let the baby go?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (QQ+il)

219 And? Can they try the experimental treatment there? Or are they just offering hospice care?
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:23 PM (a0IVu)

At least a chance for a better fate.

Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (48QDY)

220 Did I really need the sarc tag on that?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 03, 2017 04:52 PM


There [b[are a lot of youngsters running around here these days.

I mean, c'mon, even metal is considered classical by many here. Sorry if that was a Burdon for you.

;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (DMUuz)

221 >>> Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby. Thank the Lord.
Posted by: Golfman at July 03, 2017 05:22 PM (48QDY)

I google "vatican children's hospital" and the first news stories that pop up are that they are being investigated for putting children at risk while chasing profits. Stories the media conveniently published a few hours ago. I can see how this will be spun...

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (hvf9s)

222 While Trump is busily tweeting, and the media are bouncing off the walls in their haste to report on that, other people in politics are also busy tweeting, and the media aren't saying a thing about any of that, even though the tweets in question are damning stuff.

Exhibit A:

https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/881927882175643649

Oh, and in the original (now hastily deleted) tweet, from Illinois state rep Emanuel Welch, get a load of who it is that's shown shaking hands with a beaming Welch.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (ujwCG)

223 My conspiracy theory looking more and more valid.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:25 PM (IDPbH)

224 The bottom line to this is that the U.K. and their beloved NHS are going to look really really bad.

Good.

Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 05:26 PM (Fmupd)

225 There is some fault in the British national character that allows them to be treated this way.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:26 PM (QQ+il)

226 left the church long ago, but I really liked Benedict and he seemed well liked by the faithful. This pope seems to divide Catholics like Obama did Americans. Kindred spirits?

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (HBU7W)

227 And? Can they try the experimental treatment there? Or are they just offering hospice care?

Hospice care is preferable to dying with no care. Better care is at least trying for life. Prayers for the little boy and his parents (and other family).

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (zZWkn)

228 NBC's Matt Bradley accused Donald Trump Monday of using Charlie Gard's parents' grief in order to further his own political agenda.

He then went on to say "that's our schtick, the thieving bastard! We're the ones that politically exploit children for our gain!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)

229 226 left the church long ago, but I really liked Benedict and he seemed well liked by the faithful. This pope seems to divide Catholics like Obama did Americans. Kindred spirits?
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (HBU7W)

They are of their father, the Devil.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (0mRoj)

230 226 left the church long ago, but I really liked Benedict and he seemed well liked by the faithful. This pope seems to divide Catholics like Obama did Americans. Kindred spirits?
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (HBU7W)

Yes both are socialist bordering on communist.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 05:28 PM (IDPbH)

231 228 NBC's Matt Bradley accused Donald Trump Monday of using Charlie Gard's parents' grief in order to further his own political agenda.

He then went on to say "that's our schtick, the thieving bastard! We're the ones that politically exploit children for our gain!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:27 PM (39g3+)

Well, I never!

Posted by: Piers Morgan, lecturing on gun control standing atop a dead child at July 03, 2017 05:28 PM (0mRoj)

232 I got pleasure from the story about the Indian American running against
the American Indian Elizabeth Warren. He sent her a 23 and Me testing
kit.

Fourth of July parade in the town I was living in 2012 and she's running for Senate so she's in the parade. Bunch of kids start doing the tomahawk chop. Before you know it, hundreds of people are doing the tomahawk chop, sounds and all. She looked like she wanted to kill us all. Funny as hell.

Posted by: tu3031 at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (qJhUV)

233 maybe when you start worrying about everybody and their relationship to the state you lose you ability to care for one person's plight

Posted by: Rhennigantx at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (bmkS9)

234 I wasn't "that bad" either, Uncle Throw Him Under The Bus Callixtus. If not for me the pope today would be Emmanuel Macron

Posted by: Alexander VI at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (6FqZa)

235 232 I got pleasure from the story about the Indian American running against
the American Indian Elizabeth Warren. He sent her a 23 and Me testing
kit.

Fourth of July parade in the town I was living in 2012 and she's running for Senate so she's in the parade. Bunch of kids start doing the tomahawk chop. Before you know it, hundreds of people are doing the tomahawk chop, sounds and all. She looked like she wanted to kill us all. Funny as hell.
Posted by: tu3031 at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (qJhUV)

Troll power level: over 9000.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:30 PM (0mRoj)

236 Rhennigantx you may be on to something

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:30 PM (HBU7W)

237 Insomniac, are you Cath? Hammer, you are, right?

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Rsi2C)

238 The English version of "A Travel Ban"?

Posted by: X-ray at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (br7RH)

239 It's actually two babies, Jack, and the older one is almost 6 - that's how long it's been :-) I still read every day but rarely have time to comment between the boys and my job and the house, etc.

I'm sorry about your dog...he was a sweet guy.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (JPRju)

240 She's always trying to argue with Bolling. I think
there's a weird father/daughter dynamic there, like she wants to prove
to him how smart she is...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (7uYFy)

And eventually she'll understand that she needs her own approval, not her father's (or his surrogate's).
I'll never forget the night when my dad and I were drinking scotch and smoking cigarettes on the patio, and he told me that he liked me, as a person.
I always knew he loved me, even if he didn't understand what I was up to (any more than I did). But it meant the world to me that he liked me, too, because I had so much respect for him.

(((Daddy)))


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Id9+8)

241 I think that Trump's use of twitter as a communications tool is great. So direct, so timely.
As far as Pope Francis goes, I am not Catholic, rather I am Protestant.
I never comment on Catholicism, in the interests of the Body of Christ.

Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (zSVEm)

242 237 Insomniac, are you Cath? Hammer, you are, right?
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Rsi2C)

Not a Catholic. Lapsed Protestant.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (0mRoj)

243 OT: The Bing homepage is showing some tits.

Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 05:32 PM (88xKn)

244 >>I'm sorry about your dog...he was a sweet guy.

Thank you. He was a gentle soul.

Sounds like life is going great with you. Always nice to "see" you. Come back when you can and class the place up some.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:33 PM (/tuJf)

245 And eventually she'll understand that she needs her own approval, not her father's (or his surrogate's).
I'll never forget the night when my dad and I were drinking scotch and smoking cigarettes on the patio, and he told me that he liked me, as a person.
I always knew he loved me, even if he didn't understand what I was up to (any more than I did). But it meant the world to me that he liked me, too, because I had so much respect for him.

(((Daddy)))


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:31 PM (Id9+

Love and approval from your parents are critically important. I had neither growing up and believe me it fucks with you for life.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:33 PM (0mRoj)

246 The DJIA hit a new high today. While it couldn't hold it, it did close up .61%.

Thank you, President Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (QQ+il)

247 243 OT: The Bing homepage is showing some tits.
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 05:32 PM (88xKn)

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Nonsense. Tits aren't shown anywhere on the internet.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (kTF2Z)

248 Miley, that is so sweet. Before my mom passed. she said something like that to me. We had been bitter enemies since I was a child. She had a mental disorder and I never understood it. But I went over with my new motorcycle to show my dad and she said I had become such an unusual person, someone she could like. That was as close as she could come to telling me she loved me.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (HBU7W)

249 maybe when you start worrying about everybody and their relationship to the state you lose you ability to care for one person's plight

Well you know, omelettes, eggs. The greater good, and all that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (39g3+)

250 How many of us opened a tab for Bing?

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (zZWkn)

251 Ex-Episcopalian here. I tried converting to Catholicism in '08-'09 but ran out of steam.

The priest was great. The services went well, and familiar to Anglicans. Mainly it's because I felt like a nameless face-in-the-crowd. Some churches are very large, and if you're introverted it is hard to get involved in the community.

And if the pope is a dope, that's an irritant too.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (6FqZa)

252 Nonsense. Tits aren't shown anywhere on the internet.

I would bet against that, if only gambling were permitted on the internet.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (QQ+il)

253 243 OT: The Bing homepage is showing some tits.
Posted by: dantesed at July 03, 2017 05:32 PM (88xKn)

I'm holding out for boobies.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (0mRoj)

254 Posted by: Grump928(c) at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (QQ+il)

Yep. Trump=jobs. American jobs. For American workers. That alone was enough of a deciding factor for my supporting him.

Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (zSVEm)

255 Yep sure do look like tit
mice

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (Ot7+c)

256 Good manufacturing news came out on the heels of good unemployment news, so dow jones is betting on a good economy. I think with the president interfering with the economy less, and no more QE, we might actually see some value in stock market behavior as an economic indicator again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (39g3+)

257 250 How many of us opened a tab for Bing?
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:35 PM (zZWkn)

Of course, despite knowing it would be birds.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (0mRoj)

258 RE: the Vatican Hospital-- Trump mentioned the Pope in his Tweet, so perhaps they are a mid-step in the road to US treatment.

At least, that's what I'm hoping.

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 05:36 PM (aT+Bx)

259 She's always trying to argue with Bolling. I think
there's a weird father/daughter dynamic there, like she wants to prove
to him how smart she is...

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (7uYFy)

All the more reason why you need to love and approve of yourself, Insomniac.
Mom - well, she was another story, And I even got to square things with her, eventually. It was mostly about forgiving her, once I had more insight into how she grew up and the issues she had. I didn't understand any of that until I was over 50.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:37 PM (Id9+8)

260 First time I've ever had a pronounceable hash, that actually means something.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:37 PM (OdK9v)

261 >>> Before you know it, hundreds of people are doing the tomahawk chop, sounds and all. She looked like she wanted to kill us all. Funny as hell.
Posted by: tu3031 at July 03, 2017 05:29 PM (qJhUV)

Just when I despair over the direction of America and its people, you have to share something like that and give me some hope! Blast you.

Posted by: LizLem at July 03, 2017 05:37 PM (hvf9s)

262 Ex-Episcopalian here. I tried converting to Catholicism in '08-'09 but ran out of steam.
******
Ha boulder! I so much understand that sentiment. It's so much worse when you try to live your entire adult life as a faithful Catholic. RunningOutOfSteam x1000

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (Rsi2C)

263
Way to fight for Life, pope, you Shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (BDCcu)

264 First time I've ever had a pronounceable hash, that actually means something.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Never mind, it's gone now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (OdK9v)

265 OT - Maxine Waters vows to 'take Ben Carson's ass apart'. This creature needs to be institutionalized.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (a0IVu)

266 Converting or becoming Catholic is a slog. How many other churches take as much time to enter? I think it is a good thing.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (zZWkn)

267 Re my 259 - wrong copy and paste. I was referring to your #245, Insomniac.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:39 PM (Id9+8)

268 267 Re my 259 - wrong copy and paste. I was referring to your #245, Insomniac.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:39 PM (Id9+

I followed, no worries.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (0mRoj)

269 Converting or becoming Catholic is a slog. How many other churches take as much time to enter? I think it is a good thing.
Posted by: USNtakim
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Try converting to Judaism.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)

270 My mom and I finally became close in my late 20's. She even sat in the garage with me while I worked on the Sporty. She asked me why I bought it. Besides the wind in your face, they appreciate like diamonds. (back then) She understood. We had some good years before she passed suddenly at 54. I miss that old gal.

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (gDoff)

271 That was as close as she could come to telling me she loved me.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:34 PM (HBU7W)

Many people can't actually say the words, Abby. And we need to forgive them that. They show us as they can, and most of the time, they give us what they can - they aren't "holding out" and we need to understand that.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:41 PM (Id9+8)

272 Children only need our "love". Fuck their dads..... They can die in a fire.

Posted by: Single Mothers of the USA at July 03, 2017 05:41 PM (2qHjF)

273 266 Converting or becoming Catholic is a slog. How many other churches take as much time to enter? I think it is a good thing.
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (zZWkn)

Depends. There are usually classes specifically for people interested in becoming members that lay out core doctrines and that sort of thing. Some denominations are more systematic than others.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (0mRoj)

274 Wait...L'Elle is here?

*clutches flat stinky pillow*

You'll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.

;-)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (OdK9v)

275 Guy I dated in college converted from atheism to Judaism

Posted by: NCKate at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (dGSft)

276 OT - Maxine Waters vows to 'take Ben Carson's ass apart'. This creature needs to be institutionalized.
Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:38 PM (a0IVu)

I thought HE was the brain surgeon?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (7uYFy)

277 This thread is making me sad and weepy.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:42 PM (a0IVu)

278 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)

Easter Orthodox Church is pretty stringent too. I think it's helps people learn as much about their faith as possible A church that has no requirements to join is not good , IMO

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (soOgU)

279 4 This pope is a marxist asshole.

What the hell happened to Benedict?
Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 04:24 PM (9A6UB)

Benedict was "retired" due to his role in the catholic priest rape coverups. This pope was chosen due to the pressure of not having yet another European pope in an ever growing Hispanic world. The Vatican is a corrupt political machine.

Posted by: bknsty14 at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (0gAY0)

280 This thread is making me sad and weepy.

Chestnut party!

Posted by: the Borgias at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (6FqZa)

281 278-make that "Eastern" Orthodox

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 03, 2017 05:43 PM (soOgU)

282 A good mom is as good as spun gold. I ran into a lot of moms in my youth, single moms who swore up and down they loved their kids, light of their life, most important thing, etc. But when it came down to momming... they weren't taking care of the kids, busy on the computer all day, not looking after their schooling, not getting them dinner because they were too busy with guys, etc.

The kids were like a doll or a pet. Something to trot out and hug, but otherwise, in the way. Real moms, good moms... God bless you all. But those women, God help us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:44 PM (39g3+)

283 A commenter somewhere pointed out those congressman who think DT should be removed should have their heads examined for believing shit that will never happen.

Posted by: Skip at July 03, 2017 05:44 PM (Ot7+c)

284 My brothers and I lived in fear of her manic days. She tried to kill me twice, but as she grew older she got quieter. The Alzeheimers helped too.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)

285 272 Children only need our "love". Fuck their dads..... They can die in a fire.

Grrrrrrr. This way of thinking sets my hair on fire. Lets just call men worthless and encourage more deadbeats. Fathers are critical for healthy children. SPIT SPIT SPIT.


FUCKME!!!!!

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (zZWkn)

286 A church that has no requirements to join is not good , IMO
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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We have very stringent requirements, I'm pretty sure.

Posted by: Unitarian Unversalist at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (OdK9v)

287 284
My brothers and I lived in fear of her manic days. She tried to kill me
twice, but as she grew older she got quieter. The Alzeheimers helped
too.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)
I remember you telling me about your childhood, Abby. I can even begin to imagine what you went through and God bless you and your brother.

Posted by: IC at July 03, 2017 05:46 PM (a0IVu)

288 First, put this belt on . . .

Posted by: Islam at July 03, 2017 05:46 PM (6FqZa)

289 >>FUCKME!!!!!

You can't just blurt it out like that.

I want dinner and a movie first.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (/tuJf)

290 We have very stringent requirements, I'm pretty sure.
Posted by: Unitarian Unversalist at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (OdK9v)


" Wide gate, narrow gate, something something..."

Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (zSVEm)

291 #285 +++++++

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (Id9+8)

292 Heh Trump, media, twitter, and not getting it

https://twitter.com/_GreatWhiteDope/status/881980078057439233

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:47 PM (39g3+)

293 Hey Hammer! I like you too.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:48 PM (Rsi2C)

294 We raise real men...... Just look at the NFL and NBA. H8terz.

Posted by: Single Mothers of the USA at July 03, 2017 05:48 PM (2qHjF)

295
Remember how much they praised their health system at the olympics a few years ago?

Didn't they have nurses dancing around hospital beds or something like that?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 03, 2017 05:48 PM (IqV8l)

296 284 My brothers and I lived in fear of her manic days. She tried to kill me twice, but as she grew older she got quieter. The Alzeheimers helped too.
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)

Damn. I lived in fear of my mother too but I don't think she ever tried to kill me.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:49 PM (0mRoj)

297 _GreatWhiteDope's got one hilarious gif

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:49 PM (6FqZa)

298 Damn. I lived in fear of my mother too but I don't think she ever tried to kill me.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 05:49 PM (0mRoj)


" Let me tell you about my mother..." and what is a tortoise?

Posted by: kraken at July 03, 2017 05:50 PM (zSVEm)

299 Didn't they have nurses dancing around hospital beds or something like that?

It was pretty ridiculous, but these days, what does the UK really have to brag about? They used to rule the world. Now they can't even decide whether or not to pull out of the EU, after a huge election demanding it.

Well, we were hasty, perhaps we shouldn't do that now... or maybe we should? What do our betters tell us?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:50 PM (39g3+)

300 269 Converting or becoming Catholic is a slog. How many other churches take as much time to enter? I think it is a good thing.
Posted by: USNtakim
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Try converting to Judaism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)

I hear there is a cutoff on conversion.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 03, 2017 05:50 PM (vYdNK)

301 The Brits' Olympic display was horrific.

This is how you lose colonies, idiots

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (6FqZa)

302 Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (HBU7W)

I'm sorry Abby. Hugs.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (Ri/rl)

303 Twitter reports that the Vatican Children's Hospital will take the baby.

The parents have everything lined up here. The baby is being detained by the NHS. He literally would have to be busted out of the hospital at this point. I like the Trump plane thing. Wonder if an SAS unit would get him out of the hospital & then get him to the plane. That would be a nice FU to the NHS from their own peeps.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (hscyr)

304 154 Timpf is a nevertrump clown.
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)

She writes for National Review. Don't they all hate Trump?

Posted by: bknsty14 at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (0gAY0)

305 174 I can respect that viewpoint. I'll offer another one: If he was forced out under the threat of death, he had the choice to accept martyrdom like our first pope, Peter, did and many of the early ones did. Thankfully, I won't get to be the ultimate judge of his decision bc I'm not sure that I would have accepted the alternative I just suggested. But it's what Chrust asks of us all. Of course, we were created with the gift of free will so our final fate will be determined by how we exercised our free will and what choices we made.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 05:05 PM (Rsi2C)

I have a feeling Benedict was facing the Vatican version of "The Resistance" from the day he became Pope. He probably was made to understand that nothing he wanted to do would get done....
Posted by: JoeF. at July 03, 2017 05:08 PM (7uYFy)

Can't say for sure what went down inside the Vatican with regards to Benedict XVI stepping down , but we DO know that he loathed the queer-ing of the Church, called it outright, " filth," and was defrocking hundreds of pedophile priests. ( you won't find this out on google, have to use bing, seriously, and the numbers vary from 400-800) . Pope Frankie just made it easy for pedophile priests to get away with it.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (oQQwD)

306 Getting a little tired of someone running out later and saying that el Papa was mistranslated or misunderstood. This is like the 50th time he says something outrageous then someone runs out "oh wait, no he didn't mean it that way..."

Yeah, right. He's just the least understood pope in history.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 04:27 PM (39g3+)

I agree. It's not like English is some obscure language they need to translate from Italian.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (J70i0)

307 WaPo must have printed something, because the Houston Chronicle carried a story under that dateline today. Of course, being WaPo (and the Chronicle) they couldn't refrain from digging at President Trump:

"If we can help little #CharlieGard, as per our friends in the U.K. and the Pope, we would be delighted to do so.
- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 3, 2017

It's unclear how the U.S. government would be able to assist.
"

Yes, they actually followed the President's tweet with that snarky piece of shit.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (o7l6R)

308 Is there not one Barrister in the UK to file on the NHS?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (b/nXm)

309 Del Taco started in Barstow California, I get the Bean Burrito with green sauce all the time.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (6Ll1u)

310 285 272 Children only need our "love". Fuck their dads..... They can die in a fire.

Grrrrrrr. This way of thinking sets my hair on fire. Lets just call men worthless and encourage more deadbeats. Fathers are critical for healthy children. SPIT SPIT SPIT.


FUCKME!!!!!
Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:45 PM (zZWkn)

My ex wife maintains she wants supervision at 50-130 bucks an hour until our sons are 14. She believes this is healthy because I sent emails expressing concerns and desires to co-parent, which she calls accusatory. And she is literally blaming me for her acts of domestic violence, and saying under a sworn oath that her sworn oath testimony from 3 years ago did not happen.

Yep. In America as a father/man, when you have domestic violence happen against you, then it's your fault. I shit you not.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (2qHjF)

311 I say, I don't care much about the tea tax. Are we promoting diversity in the colonies?

Posted by: King George III twitter feed at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (kTF2Z)

312 saying under a sworn oath that her sworn oath testimony from 3 years ago did not happen.

That's a great way to go to the pen for perjury and maybe contempt of court.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (6FqZa)

313 This baby must have a huge value for Molach.

This shit is so sad. The state only knows how to kill.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (2qHjF)

314 I swear some folks are evil.

Posted by: USNtakim at July 03, 2017 05:56 PM (zZWkn)

315 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (2qHjF)

I have no words. That is terrible.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (Ri/rl)

316 saying under a sworn oath that her sworn oath testimony from 3 years ago did not happen.

That's a great way to go to the pen for perjury and maybe contempt of court.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (6FqZa)

You would think, but she is a mom and its family court. They don't do that kind of things to their scared cows.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (2qHjF)

317 304 154 Timpf is a nevertrump clown.
Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)

She writes for National Review. Don't they all hate Trump?

Posted by: bknsty14 at July 03, 2017 05:51 PM (0gAY0)

He's the president of the United States. Not Trump. He's the president of the United States.

Posted by: George Clooney at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (0gAY0)

318 Wonder if an SAS unit would get him out of the hospital & then get him to the plane.

The issue is he's on major life support I believe, so they can't just pick him up in a basket and run off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:58 PM (39g3+)

319 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:57 PM (2qHjF)

+++

I hate people.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 03, 2017 05:58 PM (ZrpvE)

320 So car experts, what's a fair price to replace brake pads and resurface rotors on an old minivan?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (hMwEB)

321 The media is so unhinged at this point they don't realize how, just like the weekend tweet hysteria, this story will blow up in their faces as well. Normal people are genuinely moved by the story of this stricken child.

Posted by: phineas gage at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (XsVWn)

322 Who?

Posted by: The GOP Congress at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (l4aLi)

323 Yep. In America as a father/man, when you have domestic violence happen against you, then it's your fault. I shit you not.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:53 PM (2qHjF)


Agreed that men usually get the short end of the stick. Not always. Kidlet is going to be 36 in Aug. I finally started getting back child support 4 months ago.

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:00 PM (gDoff)

324 The state only knows how to kill.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 05:55 PM (2qHjF)


A skill that was been honed for centuries, but has come close to perfection in the last century or so!!

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 06:00 PM (gwPgz)

325 Two mysteries to which I'd really like to know the answer:

*Who got to John Roberts?

*Why did Benedict abdicate?

Can I irresponsibly speculate that the answer may be the same in each case?

Posted by: phineas gage at July 03, 2017 06:01 PM (XsVWn)

326 concerns and desires to co-parent, which she calls accusatory. And she is literally blaming me for her acts of domestic violence, and saying under a sworn oath that her sworn oath testimony from 3 years ago did not happen.

Unfortunately this sort of thing is not uncommon.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:01 PM (0mRoj)

327 Try converting to Judaism.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 03, 2017 05:40 PM (OdK9v)

I hear there is a cutoff on conversion.




ISWYDT.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 03, 2017 06:02 PM (LTHVh)

328 The Borgias were not that bad for the times, seriously.
A lot of it is bad press from the Italians. Both Borgias were pretty firm against the Saracens, for one thing.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:02 PM (hMwEB)

329 Unfortunately this sort of thing is not uncommon.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:01 PM (0mRoj)

And people wonder why we are distrustful of the opposite sex.

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:03 PM (gDoff)

330 As other posters have written more eloquently than I...

My heart and prayers go out to little Charlie and his parents. May God bless them in this most difficult time.

Posted by: Cheri at July 03, 2017 06:03 PM (oiNtH)

331 About $150 front and the same for back, unless new rotors are needed.

Posted by: GOULD [ught /u] at July 03, 2017 06:03 PM (segId)

332 The issue is he's on major life support I believe, so they can't just pick him up in a basket and run off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 05:58 PM (39g3+)


A full-up specialized transportation and medevac flight operation is required, hence the public contributions to provide such a flight, but the option has been denied by the wisdom of the family's "betters" in the NHS.

Posted by: Hrothgar at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM (gwPgz)

333 The entire divorce industry needs to be burned the ground.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM (0mRoj)

334 no comment.

i suppose i should be grateful to trump for his tweets. when they cause a brouhaha i have good reason not to watch the news for a few days.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:07 PM (WTSFk)

335 How did I wind up with an extra character space in my hash?

Posted by: GOULD [ught /u] at July 03, 2017 06:07 PM (segId)

336 ... some extra terrestrial experts posit that trump is tweeting in order for me not to watch the news.

well, it's possible.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:09 PM (WTSFk)

337 ... thank you mr. president!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:10 PM (WTSFk)

338 The entire divorce industry needs to be burned the ground.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM
******
I would imagine that being a divorce lawyer requires that the advocate be a cold motherfucker.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:10 PM (Rsi2C)

339 heres a theory the left is tossing out there now:

Donald Trump is trying to discredit and destroy the press so people stop paying attention to them any longer thus eliminating the 1st amendment!

Because you know, people ignoring the press violates the constitution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:11 PM (39g3+)

340 320 So car experts, what's a fair price to replace brake pads and resurface rotors on an old minivan?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (hMwEB)

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It's probably safe to plan for $500-$700.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (hi5+T)

341
A tweet is just a tweet.

Posted by: Larry Dumoff at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (m9X4Y)

342 Fixing nic.

Posted by: GOULD at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (segId)

343 154 Timpf is a nevertrump clown.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at July 03, 2017 05:02 PM (emO+i)
..........

she sure could use some biscuits. Smothered in butter. And some cheeseburgers.

Posted by: wth at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (HgMAr)

344 Did we get willowed?

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (Rsi2C)

345 It's probably safe to plan for $500-$700.
Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:13 PM (hi5+T)

the dealer wants $340 just for the front ones, I was thinking that seems high

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hMwEB)

346 I don't understand how the NHS can overrule parental rights.

I would be standing in front of a camera with the biggest shark lawyer I could find. This story already has enough media attention in the UK to engage lawfare on anyone involved.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (b/nXm)

347 Donald Trump is trying to discredit and destroy the press so people stop paying attention to them any longer thus eliminating the 1st amendment!

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When businesses want LESS attention paid to their product, it's rarely because the product is functioning as intended.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hi5+T)

348 the dealer wants $340 just for the front ones, I was thinking that seems high

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hMwEB

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Seems a bit, but dealer service is important to a lot of folks. I was one for a while myself.

I'd recommend asking around and finding a good honest local shop if you're not bothered by non-dealer service receipts.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:18 PM (hi5+T)

349 338 The entire divorce industry needs to be burned the ground.
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:05 PM
******
I would imagine that being a divorce lawyer requires that the advocate be a cold motherfucker.
Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:10 PM (Rsi2C)

It depends. There are some out there who try hard to vigorously represent their clients' interests without needlessly fanning the flames. Others will go out of their way to make things as nasty as possible.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (0mRoj)

350 the dealer wants $340 just for the front ones, I was thinking that seems high

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:15 PM (hMwEB)

The problem is going to the dealership. Around here they always charge a lot more. I suppose you've got a better chance of the work getting done right, but you will pay more.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (4ErVI)

351 "trump is trying to destroy the 1st amendment..."

according to some experts in extra terrestrials, trump is tweeting in order to give me a reason not to watch the news.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (WTSFk)

352 Never go to a dealer for maintenance.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (kTF2Z)

353 351 "trump is trying to destroy the 1st amendment..."

according to some experts in extra terrestrials, trump is tweeting in order to give me a reason not to watch the news.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at July 03, 2017 06:19 PM (WTSFk)

Like the MFM hasn't done that pretty thoroughly already?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (0mRoj)

354 Betcha Amal Clooney wouldn't let this happen to her kid.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (b/nXm)

355 37 20
We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility
on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I
DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a
child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how
much it "embarrassed" them.

Posted by: Rusty Nail

Really? Who pays?

Posted by: pep


You and I pay -- out of our several-trillion-dollar military budget.

Right now, all around the world, the US military is treating innumerable third-worlders for free, as part of humanitarian missions. It's actually most fo what the military does these days -- war-style shooting engagements take uop less time and money than "helpful" interventions (building hospitals Afghanistan, treating ebola patients in Africa, helping tsunami victims in Asia, etc. etc.).

Spending a couple thou on a quick mission to save a child would be about 0.0000001% of our annual humanitarian budget.

Posted by: zombie at July 03, 2017 06:21 PM (DQ4Fv)

356 Yeah, most local ones are closed for the holidays but I have a couple of recs for local mechanics I'll call

Had to get new tires too. Luckily BJ's is doing a sale.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:21 PM (hMwEB)

357 352 Never go to a dealer for maintenance.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:20 PM (kTF2Z)

Only if the car is under warranty. And even there depending on what it is they might try and give you this isn't covered spiel.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at July 03, 2017 06:22 PM (4ErVI)

358 CBS evening news just started. CHarlie Gard is one of the lead stories--after the main story of Trump tweet "encouraging violence", of course.

Posted by: stace, all out of bubblegum at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (zzUT1)

359 I don't understand how the NHS can overrule parental rights.

Well that's because you're a free citizen and they are subjects of the crown.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)

360 Just to point out the psychotic thinking, she recently under oath blamed out youngest son for rejecting her breast milk which was the cause of his failure to thrive. This was a lie, he had severe reflux for 2 years and born with a underdeveloped larynx. But she lied under oath and blamed a new born baby for rejecting her breast milk.

My lawyer does not believe she even know that she is lying because she lies so much and has sailed through life without ever facing consquences and being held accountable for her actions.

She is truly fucked up and I wish for the sake of our kids I could fix her or make her get help but I can't...... And even worse I don't have faith that the court will make her get help either. It grinds you down as a human being to a state of learned helplessness, which is a dark place to be.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (2qHjF)

361 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (2qHjF)

That is really fucked up

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:24 PM (0mRoj)

362 @345

That's a fair price.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 03, 2017 06:25 PM (9A6UB)

363 "So car experts, what's a fair price to replace brake pads and resurface rotors on an old minivan?"

Depends upon make and model.

On rotors, I'd ask if the guy on the shop floor measured the thickness, and also ask what the factory spec is for minimum thickness.

In a lot of shops, cynically enough, "rotor resurfacing" often means leaving them totally alone and charging the customer for work, because the rotors are actually fine.

However, even in a shop that does do a resurfacing, on a disk that has surface issues requiring same, bear in mind that what's being done is to machine metal off of the brake disk, making it that much thinner.

And if the disk is already close to minimums, all it's doing is expensively hastening the day when it warps from being too thin, and you're back in the shop writing another check.

If you know for sure how many miles you've got on the disks, and it's a big number, or if you're hard on brakes, I'd ask to quote a full disk replacement v. resurfacing. I've seen that be a smaller number!

Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (ujwCG)

364 352 Never go to a dealer for maintenance.

--

they do free inspections so that's what came up
I said I'd bring it back after I got the stuff fixed to get my sticker

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (hMwEB)

365 I agree. It's not like English is some obscure language they need to translate from Italian.

Posted by: WOPR - Nationalist at July 03, 2017 05:52 PM (J70i0)

He's not Italian.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (Id9+8)

366 My lawyer does not believe she even know that she is lying because she
lies so much and has sailed through life without ever facing consquences
and being held accountable for her actions.


Prayers Widespread. I went thru something similar. Just the opposite sex as you. I will pray for you. {{{Hugs}}}

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (gDoff)

367 My lawyer does not believe she even know that she is lying because she lies so much

Um. I know that song.

It was a painful lesson to learn: you cannot love someone enough to fix them. Our love is not enough to make someone better than who they are. They have to be part of the effort, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:27 PM (39g3+)

368 Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 06:26 PM (ujwCG)

Thanks, I will ask for a price for rotor replacement too when I call around

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:28 PM (hMwEB)

369 My lawyer does not believe she even know that she is lying because she lies so much
*****
So your ex is my mother? That makes you what? My stepfather?
I'm confused.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:31 PM (Rsi2C)

370 "Never go to a dealer for maintenance."

Some bog-standard maint tasks such as brakes, alignments, oil and trans fluid changes, and such can turn out to be attractively priced at a dealership service bay, with coupons. Check dealership Web sites.

It's a loss leader to get people in to hopefully sell them more expensive stuff once they are on the premises.

I've gone that route on vehicles I've owned, esp. if still under factory warranty. I would never pay full list for routine maintenance at a dealership, though.

Posted by: torquewrench at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (ujwCG)

371 367 My lawyer does not believe she even know that she is lying because she lies so much

Um. I know that song.

It was a painful lesson to learn: you cannot love someone enough to fix them. Our love is not enough to make someone better than who they are. They have to be part of the effort, too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:27 PM (39g3+)

But there has to be incentive and, given the society in which we live, there rarely is such incentive.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (0mRoj)

372 359 I don't understand how the NHS can overrule parental rights.

Well that's because you're a free citizen and they are subjects of the crown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)


------------

And this is exactly what we'll be celebrating tomorrow.

Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (Fmupd)

373 In a lot of shops, cynically enough, "rotor resurfacing" often means leaving them totally alone and charging the customer for work, because the rotors are actually fine.

---

I moved away from them long ago, but I found the best shop I'd ever experienced and they gained a loyal customer when I took in an old Mazda pickup I'd just bought to have everything looked over and made right.

Pre-internet so I didn't have many details of specs, but I asked them to change the timing belt. The boss called the next day and said they were finished but that it had a chain and there was no need to mess with it.

He could've just as easily charged me the $600 and laughed at my stupidity. What happened was that I went there exclusively until my family moved because of that one action.

Posted by: Hate Has No Homo at July 03, 2017 06:33 PM (hi5+T)

374 372 359 I don't understand how the NHS can overrule parental rights.

Well that's because you're a free citizen and they are subjects of the crown.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:23 PM (39g3+)


------------

And this is exactly what we'll be celebrating tomorrow.
Posted by: Soona at July 03, 2017 06:32 PM (Fmupd)

You really shouldn't be.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 03, 2017 06:33 PM (0mRoj)

375 There is no force on earth that could keep me from taking my child to safety. Not the military, not the government. I feel so bad for these parents, it makes my heart hurt.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:34 PM (HBU7W)

376 375 There is no force on earth that could keep me from taking my child to safety. Not the military, not the government. I feel so bad for these parents, it makes my heart hurt.
Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:34 PM (HBU7W)

They're called law enforcement officers. They'll restrain you at gunpoint and take you a lovely little place called jail.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at July 03, 2017 06:35 PM (0mRoj)

377 Dammit. Off America-hating homo sock.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:36 PM (0mRoj)

378 Call Midas or Meinike for a guesstimate.

Posted by: Jack Sock at July 03, 2017 06:37 PM (IDPbH)

379 My 6 year old is the size of a small 4 year old and my 4 year old is the size of a 2 year old, but this is trendy so it's healthy in the eyes of the single mom social media tribes. My sons don't/can't sleep, have circles under their eyes, stomachs are growling, and get fed pediasure at night instead of having an adult sit down with them during their meals to make sure they eat and know what to eat.

i had to go up to their school almost daily at the end of the year to make sure they were eating, and this is turned on me of course.

Pediasure because you and your extended family are too lazy and sorry to take time to cook and sit down with kids to make sure they eat.

*ragestroke*

Thanks Horde for letting me vent. God Bless Y'all!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:38 PM (2qHjF)

380 Sorry bout that, Pepe.

No easy answers.

Courts? Pfffffffft....... what a fucking joke.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 03, 2017 06:38 PM (89T5c)

381 Widespread Pepe, prayers for you and your kids.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (hMwEB)

382 Watching The Special Report panel on Fox discussing Trump tweets and I can honestly say that only Molly Hemingway has any idea what the voters think. Steve Hayes and Charles Lane are embarrassed while Krauthammer pontificates that Trump is insane. He might as well join Maxine Waters and call for his impeachment.

Even on Fox majority of so called journalists are mightily threatened by a tweet.

Posted by: Decaf at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (U5yng)

383
Her: Yes, I married you. That's on me. I really thought you would have changed by now.

Me: Seriously? The spots on this leopard are fifty years old. You really thought you would change me?

So, first marriage ended in death. Second ends in divorce. There won't be a third. I'm fine with that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)

384 Because it's my child I would fight the military and law enforcement with my last breath. No one would take my child from me. My family knows how crazy I am about my kin. I didn't have that growing up so I guess it has made me extra protective and fierce.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (HBU7W)

385 What horror and hell you've been going through, Pepe.
Prayers for you. Stay strong.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:40 PM (Rsi2C)

386 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:38 PM (2qHjF)

Let me guess...you're "angry" "controlling" and "disruptive" for trying to keep your kids from being malnourished. Am I close?

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)

387 BTW... I know some have said there's a lot of woman bashing going on lately due to child/divorce issues.

Men do get screwed over in divorces and especially in regards to children. Not all the time, but.. a lot. And it's not right.

I hope all the guys out there that have had that experience know that there are decent females out there who know that you're an integral part of your child's life and don't want to see you estranged from your child via lawfare.

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)

388 today at work in the tutoring center I raised the subject of little Charlie. (this was before I read President Trump's loving tweet about him.)

a young single mom (son, about 14 mos.) attempted to state her disgust with the story about the baby's plight she'd read on facebook.

she couldn't stand that people were trying to say that national healthcare isn't doing right by the baby. she thought it was terrible that people were talking bad about the UK's government, and generalizing about singlepayer here....

whew! she was severely confused. just kept repeating this. her main point was that how did we know it wasn't the best thing? and why shouldn't we have national healthcare, too?

Posted by: booknlass at July 03, 2017 06:44 PM (6Xf+s)

389 Pepe - I am so sorry. I would not be able to handle that kind of situation. I'll pray for you.


Abby - been there. Nuff said. Prayers your way as well. And hey look! - we made it!

Posted by: grammie winger - o how we danced at July 03, 2017 06:44 PM (lwiT4)

390 Pepe-im so sorry for youre. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. Be strong for your children, you're all they have.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:44 PM (HBU7W)

391 So, first marriage ended in death. Second ends in divorce. There won't be a third. I'm fine with that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)

Come to Pensacola and live in sin with me.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:45 PM (Id9+8)

392 I know some have said there's a lot of woman bashing going on lately due to child/divorce issues.

For my part, I apologize. I mean no slight toward women in general or ettes in specific. I know good women are out there, I was raised by one, and surrounded by them in my family. Its how I expected women to be.

But when you get burned over and over, its hard for that painful scar not to form over your heart.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:46 PM (39g3+)

393 20
We should fly doctors to the UK and treat the kid at a medical facility
on a joint Airbase. Yes, that would royally piss off our allies, but I
DARE them to try and punish the United States for medically treating a
child (with the parents explicit permission, no less), no matter how
much it "embarrassed" them.


Posted by: Rusty Nail

Really? Who pays?


Posted by: pep at July 03, 2017 04:33 PM (LAe3v)


Supposedly, the parents have raised the money through donations; if correct, then they pay. If they wanted their child flown to the U.S. for treatment at the expense of UK's NHS then that is different.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 03, 2017 06:47 PM (5Yee7)

394 391 So, first marriage ended in death. Second ends in divorce. There won't be a third. I'm fine with that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)

Come to Pensacola and live in sin with me.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:45 PM (Id9+

What am I, chopped liver? Oh right...cat allergy. Dammit.

Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:47 PM (0mRoj)

395 This is too much feels. Husband and I are going to open a bottle of wine and watch "Gettysburg" in honor of July 4th.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:48 PM (HBU7W)

396 391 So, first marriage ended in death. Second ends in divorce. There won't be a third. I'm fine with that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:39 PM (kTF2Z)

Come to Pensacola and live in sin with me.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:45 PM (Id9+

---------------

Could I talk you into Nashville? I mean, you already have the title. Wouldn't even have to change the monogram on your luggage.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:48 PM (kTF2Z)

397 Nood!

Posted by: ibguy at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (vUcdz)

398 Men do get screwed over in divorces and especially in regards to children. Not all the time, but.. a lot. And it's not right.

I hope all the guys out there that have had that experience know that there are decent females out there who know that you're an integral part of your child's life and don't want to see you estranged from your child via lawfare.

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)

=======

I do have to say that my divorce was remarkably civil. My Ex had inherited some substantial family coin, so we agreed to leave each others individual assets alone and split the sale of the house and our one joint investment account.

We also put our daughter first, which was nice.

Posted by: GOULD at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (segId)

399 Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:38 PM (2qHjF)

Let me guess...you're "angry" "controlling" and "disruptive" for trying to keep your kids from being malnourished. Am I close?
Posted by: Insomniac at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (0mRoj)

Yep. And delusional for bringing up the domestic violence facts she admitted in court. And even though I've never been violent nor have a history of violence, her lawyer actually framed a question to where is justified in her fear of me because of the fact that she was violent towards me in the past.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (2qHjF)

400 "Gettysburg" in honor of July 4th.

Channel or Netflix?

Posted by: Infidel at July 03, 2017 06:49 PM (gDoff)

401 But when you get burned over and over, its hard for that painful scar not to form over your heart.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 03, 2017 06:46 PM
****
Of course it is. I don't the comments from morons about women in a personal way bc I understand what is causing them. It's still hard to read sometimes when they take over a thread. I just leave when it gets to be too much for me to read. I feel bad for all you guys and what you've had to go through with bad women.

Posted by: L, Elle at July 03, 2017 06:50 PM (Rsi2C)

402 I can't even imagine what that kids parents are going through. If ever there were a reason to hang bureaucrats and politicians from lamp posts, that'd be it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 03, 2017 06:50 PM (OlNRF)

403 Could I talk you into Nashville? I mean, you
already have the title. Wouldn't even have to change the monogram on
your luggage.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 03, 2017 06:48 PM (kTF2Z)

I could be amenable to Nashville. And after all, we do having matching titles.

No luggage, but I do have a cat. Are you allergic?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:51 PM (Id9+8)

404 and yes, if you move to Nashville, I could come see you both.

Posted by: booknlass at July 03, 2017 06:52 PM (6Xf+s)

405 Well then, booknlass, you could be our love child.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 06:53 PM (Id9+8)

406 that would make me a ducky, right?

Posted by: booknlass at July 03, 2017 06:54 PM (6Xf+s)

407 400 Infidel-
We own the DVD.

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:56 PM (HBU7W)

408 Miley-
Nashville is great

Posted by: Abby at July 03, 2017 06:58 PM (HBU7W)

409 387 BTW... I know some have said there's a lot of woman bashing going on lately due to child/divorce issues.

Men do get screwed over in divorces and especially in regards to children. Not all the time, but.. a lot. And it's not right.

I hope all the guys out there that have had that experience know that there are decent females out there who know that you're an integral part of your child's life and don't want to see you estranged from your child via lawfare.

Posted by: shibumi at July 03, 2017 06:42 PM (aT+Bx)

It's only white women under 40 who are infected with the mind virus

I blame feminism, white knights, and social media.

But yes I'd give a limb for a decent woman in my life since I obviously can't have my sons in my life. I'd love to move closer to home, work on myself, and get set up with a good woman through family contacts. I know they exist.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 06:58 PM (2qHjF)

410 You're probably too young for me, Widespread Pepe. Practically everyone is, except for the ones who are too old for me.

Which is why I'm aiming for the beach in Pensacola. It doesn't care, one way or another.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 07:04 PM (Id9+8)

411 Read Anne Barnhart if you want to know what's up with Pope Commie and the rest of his butt-boys.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 03, 2017 07:11 PM (5djUI)

412 This Vatican never would have objected in the first place if it was Raul Castro seeking heroic medical treatment.

What's the worse-case scenario? The child dies anyway? No; the worst-case is that the Blob-ocracy is no longer in control. That is their nightmare scenario.

As for the Professional Liar Media; they are uninterested in a Trump tweet that's not about them. CNN was sponsoring the Trump/Caesar Assassination Play and the New York Times gave directions to the baseball field to the Democrat assassin, plus helpful tips about the security detail.

But Trump is Quashing Dissent(tm).

Dirtbag Liars.

I like Trump more every day.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at July 03, 2017 07:14 PM (Ndje9)

413 You're probably too young for me, Widespread Pepe. Practically everyone is, except for the ones who are too old for me.

Which is why I'm aiming for the beach in Pensacola. It doesn't care, one way or another.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at July 03, 2017 07:04 PM (Id9+

I either need older or generation Z, both of those groups are conservative.

At this point a night of spooning, watching a couple of movies, and falling asleep and waking up to cook breakfast would be like losing a second virginity for me.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 03, 2017 07:25 PM (2qHjF)

414 This little boy's story is breaking my heart. My
youngest is about the same age, and I can tell you in deadly seriousness
that if some bureaucrat tried to tell me I couldn't pursue a treatment
he needed, I would kill them. And I don't mean that metaphorically. I
mean that I would literally murder that person. With no remorse.



The practical side of me gets that there's no chance. But the parent
side gets that if there's a 0.00000000001% chance for your baby, you
fucking take it because that is your baby.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 03, 2017 05:06 PM (JPRju)

This.

Posted by: redbanzai at July 03, 2017 07:27 PM (FTXAT)

415 So car experts, what's a fair price to replace brake pads and resurface rotors on an old minivan?

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at July 03, 2017 05:59 PM (hMwEB)



Take your minivan to O'Reiley's Auto Parts, or NAPA, or Auto Zone, or Advanced Auto Parts. Pick any two, but DO get quotes from two or more.

Pads, Rotors and Fluid. Get the parts prices.

Then, ask 'em for a referral to an independent, local mechanic of good repute. Get one such referral from each parts store, if you have the time.

Get a quote for the labor only, to 'em to spin the wrenches so as to effect the removal of the old parts, and the installation of the new bits you'd bought over the counter.

My mechanic does 'em for me at the price of only $20 per corner. Because it only takes him about fifteen minutes per corner, start to finish.

It would cost a LOT more to get rotors turned and resurfaced. That's because each rotor is going to be on the lathe for another ten or fifteen minutes each, not counting the labor to mount each disc to the lathe, measure the remaining thickness, test for runout to be within tolerances, etc.

Those Made in China brake rotors the auto parts stores sell, seem to work just fine for me. YMMV.

Good luck to you, ma'am!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 03, 2017 07:51 PM (v5iqM)

416 I wouldn't put it past some damned Democrat to fly to England to do Gard in. That's the way they roll.

Posted by: torabora at July 03, 2017 08:43 PM (Q1UO3)

417 Is this that British family that raised 1.4 million pounds to get their seriously ill baby treated by American doctors, only to have the British courts and the EU courts work together to say, "No! We can't save your baby, so we can't let someone else save it, either, because that would make our socialist healthcare program look bad"?

I'm glad to see the Pope and President Trump get involved in this!

Good luck to that family, and I hope their baby ends up living to be 100 years old!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 03, 2017 10:30 PM (3YxFh)

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