Gun Thread: Some Assembly Required [Weasel]

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From a very young age I was fascinated by taking things apart to see how they worked. The only problem being that I wasn't particularly good at putting things back together again. I vividly recall the sheer delight my father expressed when he came home from work one day to discover his little scamp of a son had taken apart a rather expensive clock. What a precocious and inquisitive rascal I was!

This trait followed me into my adult years and has been vigorously displayed with my interest in firearms. Simply cleaning a weapon requires some level of disassembly and I was always curious about all the little pins and springs and other teensy parts that make up the innards of a gun. Frequently my re-assembly attempts ended with leftover parts on the bench, necessitating a frantic YouTube search until a helpful video help was found, or worse, taking the gun and a baggie of loose parts to my gunsmith. Oh the shame.

Two things eventually happened; my collection of Sig Sauer semi-automatic pistols grew large enough, and I got tired of paying for simple adjustments, repairs and parts replacement. It was at this point that I decided to take Sig's Armorer's Course so I packed a bag, pointed the car north, and headed for Epping, New Hampshire.

The Sig Sauer Academy sits on 140 acres a little over an hour north of Boston, MA. The facilities include an assortment of indoor/outdoor ranges, classrooms, tactical training areas and a pro shop. It's a really impressive setup, and I'd been to the Epping facility before taking rifle courses so I was familiar with the layout. Signing up was simple and done online including uploading various credentials required for the specific courses. The armorer's courses are conviently held in locations all over the country, last two days, and cost $430. Upon sucessful completion, students are awarded a certificate good for three years which allows them to fully service the pistols while maintaining the factory warranty. Recertification is a one day refresher class for $260.

The P226 in the picture above is the gun I took apart and put back together about 100 times over the course of two days. You start by working on the smaller sub-assemblies and eventually work up to complete disassembly and re-assembly of the pistol. I thought I'd be cute and organize the parts by group to make it easier, but I guess the instructor had seen this before and helpfully mixed everything up into a big pile for me. Eventually, it was fairly straightforward to take a pile of parts and turn it into a working firearm. The course is quite a bit of fun, but it's also no joke. You must demonstrate proficiency working on the weapons to the instructor and pass a written test. I've found the experience gained even helps in troubleshooting problems with other brands of firearms.

I have to say I'm happy to have taken the course but I haven't felt compelled to keep the certification current. I'm also not sure I'd pay any more than the the $430 they're charging. The quality of instruction is very good but at that price I don't think it's a bargain for the casual shooter. Not a waste, but not a bargain.

What do you think? Would this be the sort of training you would be interested in at that price point?

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Well now let's see what else there is to talk about:

I'm seeing more and more ads for laser target trainers of one sort or another. Here's one reviewed by Shooting Sports USA, the PET II Reactive Target Laser, and they seem to be getting both smaller and more functional.

Anyone tried one of these? We featured several models some time ago and they didn't seem to generate much comment.

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Another week and another round of poo flinging at the NRA This time, Col. Allen West, a member of the NRA board, speaks out against both Wayne LaPierre and the newly-elected President, Calolyn Meadows. The whole mess is turning into a circular firing squad, and somebody needs to get control of this shit and fast. Unless the organization wants to continue to self destruct to the delight of the left, some sort of review committee needs to be formed to clean house. I've been a life member for many years, but otherwise I wouldn't send them another dime.

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I'm a contrarian and for a long time I resisted trying Black Rifle Coffee because everyone else was jumping on board and singing its praises. Well, I finally gave in and holy cow is it ever good! I mean really very damn good. Really very extra damn good! So don't be a retard and give them a try sooner rather than later. I like the dark roast Blackbeard's Delight, but there are a bunch of different roasts to choose from, and a portion of proceeds benefit military personnel assistance organizations, law enforcement and first responders. Win-Win.

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Nine New(ish) Handgun Reviews
More on the 303 British
Gun Digest: Choosing a Revolver
Kragujevac Arsenal M24/47
Ammoland: 2019 NRA Meeting Report
Powder Valley - Free Hazmat for orders over $149


***Mail Bag***

This week our pal and 'ette Emmie went to the range for the first time and would you take a look at her target!

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Emmie pops some caps in cardboard!


I don't know about the rest of you, but from now on, I'm addressing her as Ms. Emmie! She mentioned trying a number of different revolvers and pistols in various calibers and liking a smaller .38 Special revolver the best, because she is an 'ette of refinement and high class. Very nicely done!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:01 PM (BbGew)

Food Thread: Don't Put Inane Things In Good Food

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The label says:

UTILIZING NANOTECHNOLOGY
10,000,000 NANOGRAMS CBD
Now, in the interest of full disclosure, I didn't pick up the bottle and read what it may have explained about this miracle of modern technology, but the last time I checked, nanograms were a measure of weight which has nothing to do with nanotechnology other than the prefix. Although I did look at their website and I am now dumber for the experience.

I guess some people need to feel good about their diets and want to infuse everything they eat with some virtue-signalling message that "YES, I am a higher-order human who cares about important things like drinking water with 0.01 grams of CBD/liter." Yeah...math...some of us can do it!

But I much prefer my food and drink to be simpler...to satisfy the requirement of being...oh...I don't know...good to eat and drink!

So pour me three fingers of a good scotch (just a splash of water unless it's something really good), and please don't overcook my steak, but I do want some char (I like eating free radicals!), so pay attention!

What? Vegetables? Sure! Take a peak below the fold.

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Yup. I found an extra package of bacon in the freezer, and since my reflexive behavior when I find something yummy in there is to defrost it without having a plan for its use, I ended up with this.

Fresh green beans and bacon. No salt or pepper or spices.

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In retrospect I should have used a bit of pepper, but they really did turn out well.

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I feel quite virtuous...vegetables, low-carb, and fat for the keto people. This, paired with a good steak and nice bottle of Zinfandel might be the perfect meal.

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I think Sloppy Joes are fine dining, so I am unsure why these folks feel the need to complicate them. But I would try it. Once. I really don't think it's a good combination. There is something to be said for those tried-and-true recipes that your mom learned from her mom who learned it from her mom...
Hash Brown Sloppy Joes
But such is the state of a lot of food writing nowadays. Take something that works just fine, and tweak it and make it complicated and add something weird, and hope that the slim-hipped-hipsters go wild.

It's not as bad as putting ketchup on a hot dog, but it's close.

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I made some pork ribs in the oven last week, and while they tasted good, there was an interesting texture to the outside that I have never experienced. Sort of leathery, but not terrible. Overall, I was not tremendously pleased with them, although of course I ate them with great gusto because i am a glutton.

Any thoughts? I know that some of you are accomplished pit-masters who scoff at those of us who aren't, but I am curious why that happened, so any input would be much appreciated. Sending me a rack or two of your best ribs would be even more appreciated, but I'll take what I can get.

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I love Poke. It's easy to make, easy to customize to your own tastes, and it is relatively safe to order in a restaurant because it really is hard to screw up. I don't know how authentically Hawaiian Tuna Poke is, because there are lots of cuisines that have something similar. But wherever it's from, it's worth a taste. And if you like it, make it at home. The only requirement is good tuna (although other firm-fleshed fish will work), and most of us can get good quality frozen tuna.
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Food and cooking tips, triple-cream cheeses, young wild pigs, crisp bacon, thick and fluffy pita, and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit. And yes, shaking a Manhattan is blasphemy...it's in the Bible!

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Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (BbGew)

2 CBD Water?

Don't want CharlieBrownsDildo in my water, thanks.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (OnXIw)

3 Not even with a complete bottle of scotch am I eating that

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:03 PM (BbGew)

4 Skip didn't read content.

Scared of Poke.

Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 04:03 PM (OE84+)

5 Horde dutifully called btw

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:03 PM (BbGew)

6 Still stuck in Wisconsin.

Just me, a service station and cows.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (OnXIw)

7 Still stuck in Wisconsin.

Just me, a service station and cows.
Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (OnXIw)

Cheese curds FTW!!!

Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (OE84+)

8 Sponge!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (MasTK)

9 Pork ribs are great, the snake things are not

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (BbGew)

10 Aieeee! What is that last picture???
Reminds me of a trip to Taiwan and the stories about "snake alley."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (W+vEI)

11 What a horrid way to ruin that bacon!

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 04:05 PM (UdKB7)

12 CBD>I made some pork ribs in the oven last week, and while they tasted good, there was an interesting texture to the outside...

Baking bag technique?

Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 04:05 PM (OE84+)

13 Actually there is a restaurant right here I'm gonna probably try later.

I want to see what the Wisconsinite version of a chicken fried steak is like.

Posted by: Robert at May 19, 2019 04:05 PM (OnXIw)

14 off to go pick up tacos for brunch.

and WTF is up with water falling from the sky here in Lost Angels, #Failifornia at the end of May?

pure heresy, i tells ya!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (MasTK)

15 and WTF is up with water falling from the sky here in Lost Angels, #Failifornia at the end of May?

pure heresy, i tells ya!
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (MasTK)

Amplitude.

Much the reason it was 97 here in SE NC yesterday.

Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (OE84+)

16 "Don't Put Inane Things In Good Food"


Huh. Kinda reminds me of the hotdog place I went to yesterday. They offered some fun combos such as:

"golden retriever" = dog topped w/mac'n cheese
"seeing eye dog" = dog topped with Vidalia onion and carrots*
"shaggy dog" - dog topped with colseslaw and bbq sauce


*Carrots on a hot dog?????

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:09 PM (W+vEI)

17 UTILIZING NANOTECHNOLOGY
10,000,000 NANOGRAMS
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Should have gone milliKohms.

Actually, high purity water is[/] sometimes specified by resistance.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (CDGwz)

18 Sometimes, posters are saved by close tags.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (CDGwz)

19 Still stuck in Wisconsin.

Just me, a service station and cows.
Posted by: Robert
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If it's cool up there tonight, you might conduct a combustion test of cow patties.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 04:13 PM (CDGwz)

20 I used to work at a water bottling plant many moons ago. The plant was right next door to the city's water distribution complex.

We would fill the bottles on the assembly line right from the tap, after the water was run thru a filter and light system, then slap a cap on them and load them in the truck for the dumb masses to buy at the store the same water going into their homes.

And that was about 40 years ago. Some things and stupid people never change.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 04:14 PM (Z+IKu)

21 I like my sloppy joes the way my mom made them.

I've tried other recipes, or tweaked mine, but I keep coming back to the same-old. Something about the tastes/memories from your childhood, I guess.

If i say they have carrots in them will i be banned?

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:15 PM (ppIpx)

22 So, ... bong water?

Posted by: bananadream at May 19, 2019 04:16 PM (YR7aL)

23 maybe it was a bad piece of pork.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 19, 2019 04:16 PM (DGS6j)

24 Bacon guy consult your Urologist stat........I called him and he said ketchup on your dog would be an improvement..........................

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 04:16 PM (5IHGB)

25 I have enjoyed tuna poke and not been able to reverse engineer the flavor. The scallions I got, maybe what I'm missing is that furikake seasoning.

There's a Nipponese grocery near here that's so authentic that most of the items don't have English on the package. I'll ask them about furikake.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:17 PM (fuK7c)

26 Having fast food at home, Perdue breaded chicken patty, toasted roll lettuce, tomato and mayo, and salad
Wish I had French fries,

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:18 PM (BbGew)

27 I'm not seeing any description of the snakes in the last picture. Maybe that's for the best.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (sdi6R)

28 ...and no to the sloppy joe recipe. i like traditional, except i use ground elk + manwich, ftw.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (DGS6j)

29 Not to be all Alex The Chick, but I don't understand why everyone is complaining about the snakes-on-sticks in the last picture, when those...things are also in the picture.

Posted by: Splunge at May 19, 2019 04:21 PM (ed8K1)

30 I don't like spiders and snakes
And that ain't what it takes
To love me
Like I want to be loved by you

Posted by: Jim Stafford at May 19, 2019 04:21 PM (fuK7c)

31 speaking of which, if you have a chance, try ichi-yaki, the japanese method of cooking with a hot stone. i tried it at a japanese restaurant and it was very good - they bring a rock heated to about 400 deg. to the table and kobe steak very thinly sliced. you lay the strips of beef on the rock which absorbs excess grease. you are left with very flavorful steak that you dip in a variety of sauces. it was really good!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2019 04:21 PM (Pg+x7)

32 baking some oatmeal cookies while I write this so busy busy busy

rainy day

I chose a recipe from my The King Arthur Flour Cookie Companion cookbook. I had an old standby that I always used, but thought I would shake it up.

I almost went for what they called their "Old-Fashioned" oatmeal cookie. They use a food processor or blender to grind up the oats, raisins and dry ingredients... I've never done this. Grind up the raisins into the flour and dry ingredients. I just didn't want to deal with it (cleaning), so went with a quicker version.

The book has so many oatmeal variations depending on what you like in an oatmeal cookie (including a flourless and a "salty" version, and a date-stuffed oatmeal sandwich, yum). Here are the more general ones, though:

The Essential Chewy Oatmeal Cookie
The Essential Crunchy Oatmeal Cookie
The Essential Crisp Oatmeal Cookie
The Essential Soft Oatmeal Cookie

I made the soft one. I was short on brown sugar, so had to make up for it with a little refined white and some molasses. This one had some sour cream or yogurt, too. I chose the sour cream. And used pecans v walnuts.

The note said: "If your taste runs to the melt-in-your-mouth crumbly, rather than chewy, crisp, or crunchy, this one's for you." Sounded about right.

Smells good in the house.

Will check back in later...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2019 04:22 PM (vEIlU)

33 OMGosh! I just looked closer at the snakes-on-a-stick picture. YIKES!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:22 PM (ppIpx)

34

"Any thoughts? I know that some of you are accomplished pit-masters who
scoff at those of us who aren't, but I am curious why that happened, so
any input would be much appreciated. Sending me a rack or two of your
best ribs would be even more appreciated, but I'll take what I can get."




I suspect your cook temp was a bit high for ribs. When I do ribs in the oven I wrap them in foil for 3 hours at three hundred degrees. Pull them out and blast the oven to broil, brush on BBQ sauce and shove them in there for 10 minutes to caramelize the sauce and give it a crispy texture.





But if you want really good ribs use the 3-2-1 method. You really can't screw it up unless you let your fire get out of control. Prep the ribs with rub. Put them on the smoker or grill indirect heat at 225 degrees unwrapped for three hours.




Pull after three hours brush on some Sweet Baby Ray''s sauce and wrap them in foil and return to the grill/smoker for two hours.




Pull them off after two hours and brush on some more BBQ sauce and return to the grill/smoker for one hour.





Pull after one hour let them rest a bit (15 minutes or so) and chow down.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (JUOKG)

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ps, knowing me, (not on the keto diet), I probably would have stuck a piece of cheese in there somewhere!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (vEIlU)

36 Not getting the snake to poke relationship but don't really want to know either.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (BbGew)

37 beans wrapped in bacon

ps, knowing me, (not on the keto diet), I probably would have stuck a piece of cheese in there somewhere!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (vEIlU)

38
You know, "Pico" is becoming a fad too. Nano is 10^-9, a billionth, and pico is the next one down, a trillionth, 10^-12.

When nano isn't good enough, you go with pico. Microsoft used that in Windows 10 for the WSL (Linux) subsystem. To run Linux binaries they created some kernel structure called a "pico-process". Not a nanoprocess, but a picoprocess.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (NMAzL)

39 29 Not to be all Alex The Chick, but I don't understand why everyone is complaining about the snakes-on-sticks in the last picture, when those...things are also in the picture.

Posted by: Splunge at May 19, 2019 04:21 PM (ed8K1)


Oh. Shit.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 04:24 PM (sdi6R)

40 >>But such is the state of a lot of food writing nowadays. Take something that works just fine, and tweak it and make it complicated and add something weird, and hope that the slim-hipped-hipsters go wild.


Think Instagram is partially to blame for complicated food. Saw a donut shop profile on the local news. Yikes. Their options are a variation of: take a donut and then dredge it an a flavored glaze, dip/smother it in candy or sugared cereal, pipe it with frosting flourishes and then drizzle on meted chocolate. For overkill, they do that to filled donuts. They also serve shakes that are layered with stuff AND the outside of the glass (tip 1/13)is covered in sugar, cookies, chocolate and other sweets.

I like sweets, but these made me ill just thinking about eating them. They sure made cool Instagram shots.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:24 PM (W+vEI)

41 It's cold and rainy here in the North Bay, the perfect day for some oxtail stew. I just love the rich flavor of oxtails in stew. Best broth ever. This is a Taiwanese, tomato-based recipe from Fu Pei Mei's cookbook, with a nice dark soy (think soy sauce + molasses) influence.

Posted by: Splunge at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (ed8K1)

42 I would substitute asparagus for the beans but either sounds pretty damn good.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (/tuJf)

43 except i use ground elk

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (DGS6j)

Oh man...I am jealous.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (wYseH)

44 I need some guidance. Limited guidance.
I bought a pressure cooker. I bought some baby-back ribs and instead of oven roasting them for 3 and half hours, I want to tenderize them in the pressure cooker and then put them on the charcoal grill to finish them off.
OK here is the question. How long should they be in the pressure cooker? Please spare me the snark. It's too hot here in the South to cook them outside for whole time needed and I don't want to heat my oven in the kitchen that long either.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (KOCKb)

45 CBD, no expert on the topic, but ribs I've done on the grill [not smoker - but indirect heat, low/slow, around 2OO degrees] will have a nice "bark" on them when I've applied a dry rub. Plain ribs often have what you describe, a tougher, thin layer of leathery meat - which I find nice and chewy, and with sauce, just fine.


On topic - just made some great grilled cheese sammiches - light rye bread, two kinds of cheese [pepper jack, colby], bacon on one, turkey pastrami on the other, bit of yellow mustard on both. Outstanding. I think tweaking certain classics, on occasion, works out well.


Off-topic - sadly looks like others and myself were not too far off when we predicted Romney would be quite a disaster [some opined, reasonably, that he'd stick fairly close to UT, and LDS priorities]. And Atkisson's case looks to have been dealt a death blow, and it smells bad - she has pretty compelling evidence of outrageous guvamint behavior, I think. One might think, in the current environment, such a case would get every break from the judiciary. Almost enough to make one think there is even more wrong with that branch than is already obvious.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (QDnY+)

46 I had eel at a fish feast camping, many years ago. Some of the tastiest fish and I am glad someone else had the privilege of cleaning them.

Posted by: lurking grandma at May 19, 2019 04:26 PM (sujqA)

47 I have not tried snake, but I hear it's not bad. I suspect it would be better if it were skinned. Tarantulas I will leave for braver members of the horde.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 04:26 PM (o2vOl)

48 I'm not seeing any description of the snakes in the last picture. Maybe that's for the best.

Those might not be snakes...they might be tentacles.

Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2019 04:27 PM (OMsf+)

49 I would substitute asparagus for the beans but either sounds pretty damn good.


My mind's eye saw asparagus and was disappointed when it turned out to be green beans.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:27 PM (fuK7c)

50 Huh. Kinda reminds me of the hotdog place I went to yesterday. They offered some fun combos such as:

"golden retriever" = dog topped w/mac'n cheese
"seeing eye dog" = dog topped with Vidalia onion and carrots*
"shaggy dog" - dog topped with colseslaw and bbq sauce


*Carrots on a hot dog?????
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:09 PM (W+vEI)

Mac and cheese on a good all-beef hotdog is actually quite tasty.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

51 Is a nanogram more or less than a picogram?

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:27 PM (KOCKb)

52 UTILIZING NANOTECHNOLOGY
10,000,000 NANOGRAMS CBD


That's an absolute measure of weight, but says nothing in this context.

Is that ng per bottle? Per mL? What? We need a concentration, not just a weight.

Next marketing hook: Now fortified with 55.5 moles of water per liter!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

53 I probably would have stuck a piece of cheese in there somewhere!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (vEIlU)

Oooh! A little stick of Parmesan!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:28 PM (wYseH)

54 CBD...when you finally come to visit, we'll make elk and use my chopping block. plus good drinks, of course.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 19, 2019 04:29 PM (DGS6j)

55 51 Is a nanogram more or less than a picogram?
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:27 PM (KOCKb)


More. A nanogram is 10^-9 g. A picogram is 10^-12 g.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:29 PM (YqDXo)

56
They are looking at CBD for possible therapeutic properties. However, the doses used in these trials are much greater, 10 - 100 times the doses in these CDB products on the market now.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:30 PM (NMAzL)

57 Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (QDnY+)

Yeah...I am familiar with what you have described, but this was different than that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:30 PM (wYseH)

58 51 Is a nanogram more or less than a picogram?
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:27 PM (KOCKb)


Next unit: the femtogram. No prizes for guessing what that is from the pattern above.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:30 PM (YqDXo)

59 I did a small homily on the etymology of lox in the last thread. (Btw, willow is still there talking to herself. We should have a verb for that).

I am now eating a bagel as God intended. Lox, cream cheese, capers, red onion.

Outlanders these days are adding tomato to that. Whose idea was that and is it considered halal?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:31 PM (fuK7c)

60 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

I cheated and checked their website, which is a dumpster fire of idiocy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:32 PM (wYseH)

61 13... Robert, The best fresh water fish, perch and walleye, I ever had was at a Wisconsin restaurant. They said the fish were caught in Wisconsin waters. Anyway, it was great. Might be worth inverstigating while you are there.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 04:32 PM (bmdz3)

62 True connoisseurs never put reptiles and arachnids on the same skewer. Much different cooking rates.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (Ct55T)

63 Those bacon-wrapped green beans look great. Were they baked? What temperature and how long? I bet asparagus would be great too.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (KOCKb)

64 >> s a nanogram more or less than a picogram?

A picogram is 1/1000 of a nanogram. Nano = 10^-9, pico = 10^-12.

Short scale prefixes are based on powers of 1000. For the fractions, it goes milli, micro, nano, pico, femto, atto. which is 10^-3, -6, -9, -12, -15, -18.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (NMAzL)

65 Great White Scotsman, interesting ribs strategery. Sweet Baby James [original] is often my sauce of choice. Usually do 2 racks at a time, one dry-rub only. Will adopt your method for the "wet" rack.


Will get a smoker some day. Amazed at how well the indirect heat on the gas grill works, however. I use wood chips too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (QDnY+)

66 You know, "Pico" is becoming a fad too. Nano is 10^-9, a billionth, and pico is the next one down, a trillionth, 10^-12.

Much like marketing materials that imply that titanium is more valuable than platinum.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

67 63 Those bacon-wrapped green beans look great. Were they baked? What temperature and how long? I bet asparagus would be great too.
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (KOCKb)

More importantly, how baked was CBD?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (NWiLs)

68 plus good drinks, of course.

Posted by: trapper's girl at May 19, 2019 04:29 PM (DGS6j)

I like the way you think!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (wYseH)

69 Hey My Life, what's your sloppy joe recipe?

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (Z9NCH)

70 Wrapped sweet corn in bacon and then grilled it. Not bad for a first attempt. Need to use 2 strips per ear and then find a way to anchor better so it doesn't fall off when flipping. We also had burgers so I used the bacon from the corn to make bacon cheese burgers. Good eating.
That picture is scary.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (eUh+X)

71 When nano isn't good enough, you go with pico. Microsoft used that in Windows 10 for the WSL (Linux) subsystem. To run Linux binaries they created some kernel structure called a "pico-process". Not a nanoprocess, but a picoprocess.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (NMAzL)


For Windows "pica" would be more appropriate than "pico."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (YqDXo)

72 70
That picture is scary.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (eUh+X)

Yeah, bottled water freaks me out too.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

73 Where do I fit in in all of this?

Posted by: Pikachu at May 19, 2019 04:35 PM (fuK7c)

74 Also, obligatory:

Hehehehehe... you said "Tuna poke"...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (Ct55T)

75 Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (KOCKb)

375 degrees for 15 minutes, then I flipped them and cooked for another 10 minutes.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (wYseH)

76 I cheated and checked their website, which is a dumpster fire of idiocy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:32 PM (wYseH)


You astonish me.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

77 Arrived in Iceland just this morning. Already had lamb. May have lamb daily. Unless I find reindeer or elk.
A note to anyone flying Icelandair. They don't feed you. We weren't looking for dinner with an 11pm departure. But no breakfast either. My 1/2 coffee was okay. Cheap bastards.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 19, 2019 04:38 PM (eUh+X)

78 52
UTILIZING NANOTECHNOLOGY

10,000,000 NANOGRAMS CBD



That's an absolute measure of weight, but says nothing in this context.



Is that ng per bottle? Per mL? What? We need a concentration, not just a weight.



Next marketing hook: Now fortified with 55.5 moles of water per liter!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:28 PM (YqDXo)


According to the interwebs 10,000,000 nanograms = 2.2 lbs or 1 kilogram. Cold be the content weight of each bottle. Kind of hard to determine lacking scale of the bottles.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 19, 2019 04:38 PM (RDX/f)

79 It's not as bad as putting ketchup on a hot dog, but it's close.

Easy there, commie...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:39 PM (7s3Gx)

80 Wasn't Icelandair the cheap airline back in the early 70's with $299 flights from the US to Europe? Yeah. No food.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:40 PM (KOCKb)

81 46 I had eel at a fish feast camping, many years ago. Some of the tastiest fish and I am glad someone else had the privilege of cleaning them.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 19, 2019 04:26 PM (sujqA)


I ate paddy eels in China. Num num.

They grabbed an eel and basically cored it on a sharp hollow spike before cooking it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:40 PM (YqDXo)

82 10,000,000 nanograms = 2.2 lbs or 1 kilogram.


Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 19, 2019 04:38 PM (RDX/f)

Not sure which internet you checked, but I am going to defer to professor Markowitz.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:40 PM (wYseH)

83 My guess on the mysterious rubber ribs mystery is that the ribs were somehow mishandled in storage or distribution.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:40 PM (Ct55T)

84 According to the interwebs 10,000,000 nanograms = 2.2 lbs or 1 kilogram.
Wrong interwebz. That's 10 mg.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:40 PM (7s3Gx)

85 I want my CBD to NOT be measured in nano-anythings....

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at May 19, 2019 04:41 PM (ufFY8)

86 According to the interwebs 10,000,000 nanograms = 2.2 lbs or 1 kilogram. Cold be the content weight of each bottle. Kind of hard to determine lacking scale of the bottles.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 19, 2019 04:38 PM (RDX/f)

Uh... 10,000,000 nanograms is 10 milligrams.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:41 PM (NWiLs)

87 I cheat. I braise ribs, add liquid smoke to the braising liquid, make sauce from the liquid and drippings when finished, carmelize under the broiler, then eat and eat and eat.

It isn't BBQ, but it works.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 04:41 PM (IfYaq)

88 I saw Dumpster Fire of Idiocy open for Dave Matthews at Santa Monica Civic in '92.


May finally follow through on my plan to make homemade bacon [probably from pork butt, not belly - thus, "cottage bacon"]. Guy at the shootin' match yesterday brought various flavors he'd made - he used pork belly and a smoker. Think it's worth a try with butt and half-assed "smoking" on the grill.


Next time I find ridiculously cheap pork butt/shoulder - the reason I even thought to try this - gonna do it. Already have the pink salt.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:41 PM (QDnY+)

89 >> According to the interwebs 10,000,000 nanograms

You're off by a factor of 100,000. :-) 10 million nanograms is 10 milligrams.

The water contains 10 milligrams of CBD oil per bottle.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:41 PM (NMAzL)

90 1,000 milligrams to a gram.1,000,000 micrograms to a gram. (not 10,000,000)1,000,000,000 nanograms to a gram. ...

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:42 PM (KOCKb)

91 Free heirloom tomato, pepper and artichoke plants for some lucky member of The Horde. Passing along a message. If interested, send me a note at

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

and we'll try to arrange the plant transfer:

I am a long time moron lurker from North Alabama, and though this is a long shot, thought I could do something to help out fellow morons in the area, if there are any.
I went a little overboard seed-shopping this winter with all the really cool varieties of tomatoes at Baker Creek, and didn't think they would germinate as well as they did, so have a few hundred extra heirloom tomato seedlings. If you know of anyone in the Huntsville/Decatur/Athens area, I would love to share. I really don't want them to die, and if I plant 300+ tomato plants, I will die.
Absolutely love your garden thread every week.

Details on some of the available varieties:Lots of neat ones like Blue Beauty, White Tomesol, Yellow Garden Peach, and the bizarre Reisetomate. I have some extra peppers too, and had some heirloom french artichokes that sprouted fantastically in my aerogarden, just a few extras of those.

Posted by: KT at May 19, 2019 04:42 PM (BVQ+1)

92 How long do you braise the ribs?

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:42 PM (KOCKb)

93 >>Mac and cheese on a good all-beef hotdog is actually quite tasty



Agreed!
This is actually a favorite eatery of ours, and it is very popular. Great dogs, excellent fries, beer on tap, an ocean view outdoor seating, and treats for the doggie thrown in (they save day-old dogs for the pups): HEAVEN!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:42 PM (W+vEI)

94 1 ng = 10E-09 g

10E7 ng = 10E-02 g = 0.01g

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Ct55T)

95 Wasn't Icelandair the cheap airline back in the early 70's with $299 flights from the US to Europe?


Yeah. That was in the days of regulation when the national airline had to take off or land in its nation. So Iceland was the hub for cheap charters.

I saw Reykjavik a handful of times without ever setting foot on Icelandic soil.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (fuK7c)

96 10,000,000 nanograms = 2.2 lbs or 1 kilogram.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 19, 2019 04:38 PM (RDX/f)


10,000,000 ng = 10^-2 g

10^12 ng = 1 kg.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (YqDXo)

97 Hmmm, seems we might have to occupy Iceland again, like in WWII.


No U-boat problem. But they seem like they're getting uppity. And the blondes.




Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (QDnY+)

98 94 1 ng = 10E-09 g

10E7 ng = 10E-02 g = 0.01g
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Ct55T)


Sorry, just saw this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:44 PM (YqDXo)

99 I like poke too.

But I like intestinal worms less.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2019 04:44 PM (cXV7n)

100 94 1 ng = 10E-09 g

10E7 ng = 10E-02 g = 0.01g
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Ct55T)

Now you're just making shit up.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:44 PM (NWiLs)

101 >>Wrapped sweet corn in bacon and then grilled it.

That sounds yummy!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (W+vEI)

102 I'm not eating bugs and snakes. Nope. Not gonna do it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (MVjcR)

103 That GD MF Justin Amash

Posted by: MAGA at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (I5LRE)

104 I WAS TOLD!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (fuK7c)

105 Our tickets to Iceland weren't cheap. The only game in town for us. WOW went out of business a couple months back and no one else flies here from our part of the US. I believe that United May start later this year.
The International terminal at Ohare was a circus last evening. Probably always is. However the flight to Abu Dhabi was on the ground after loading for almost 2 hours. Huge plane with lots of families. I bet it was a circus.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (eUh+X)

106 Sorry, just saw this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:44 PM (YqDXo)


I'm alternating between the HQ and watching the Yankees' game.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (YqDXo)

107 Now you're just making shit up.

Around these parts, I believe it's called gilding the lily...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (7s3Gx)

108 May finally follow through on my plan to make
homemade bacon [probably from pork butt, not belly - thus, "cottage
bacon"]. Guy at the shootin' match yesterday brought various flavors
he'd made - he used pork belly and a smoker. Think it's worth a try with
butt and half-assed "smoking" on the grill.


Next time I find
ridiculously cheap pork butt/shoulder - the reason I even thought to
try this - gonna do it. Already have the pink salt.



Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:41 PM

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I tried that once. Got a recipe called buckboard bacon. Didn't care for it. When I sliced it to fry it curled up really bad in the pan. Tasted OK, more like ham than bacon.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (JUOKG)

109 Afternoon Horde,

Been making sourdough bread for the past few months, but only in the last couple of weeks I've figured out how to get the classic sourdough tang. Anyway, just had to gloat that I just made my best loaf yet. Over-baked by a just a couple of minutes, but tasty nonetheless.

Pic, for those interested: http://tinypic.com/r/2mebnd2/9

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (r9Jjf)

110 I braise for two to three hours, depending on how big they are. About 250 degrees.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (IfYaq)

111 Sending me a rack or two of your best ribs would be even more appreciated, but I'll take what I can get.

I have recently been smoking baby back half-racks sourced from the local Natural Grocers, who sources them from two or three artisanal producers in Iowa.

Let's just say the expense is worth it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (DMUuz)

112 I believe it's called gilding the lily...


Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:47 PM (fuK7c)

113 I'd eat a cooked snake, but a spider? Hell no.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

114 I believe it's called gilding the lily...


I live to correct English usage. Shakespeare's phrase was "to guild gold, to paint the lily".

It's a thing now and everyone says it but it's wrong.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (fuK7c)

115 A truly advanced society is the one who invents peanut m&ms

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (MVjcR)

116 84
According to the interwebs 10,000,000 nanograms = 2.2 lbs or 1 kilogram.
Wrong interwebz. That's 10 mg.



Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:40 PM (7s3Gx)


What am I missing?https://tinyurl.com/yxvu282x

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (RDX/f)

117 >>Hey My Life, what's your sloppy joe recipe?
Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (Z9NCH)

Decent quality ground beef, chopped onion, green pepper, carrots, salt and pepper. Tomato sauce and BBQ sauce--Open Pit, Original. (I know, I know, there are better BBQ sauces out there, but this one is that 'memory' flavor.)

I brown the beef with the salt and pepper and onions, drain the fat, add the other stuff with more onions to layer the flavors. Cover and let it simmer till the carrots are tender. I add the peppers last so they don't get too mushy. Amounts? What looks good for how many I want to make. I taste test for the BBQ sauce til it's what I like

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:49 PM (ppIpx)

118 I learned an important asparagus lesson this week. I've been selecting the smallest diameter stalks I can find, on the theory that they're more tender and less fibrous. It turns out, it's just the opposite. The smaller stalks have a higher fiber density, and also wilt and taste terrible as leftovers.

This is an object lesson in how our minds word, specifically ignoring the facts to meet a preconceived notion. Since I've eaten both thin and thick asparagus, I should have known this already.

Posted by: pep at May 19, 2019 04:49 PM (T6t7i)

119 Not exactly about food, but I went to grocery today and I needed some shaving cream. Barbasol makes a kind that boasts "caffeine". W the actual eFF?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 19, 2019 04:49 PM (oAY8z)

120 Much like marketing materials that imply that titanium is more valuable than platinum.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM


I'll take titanium over platinum any day.

Posted by: SR-71 at May 19, 2019 04:50 PM (DMUuz)

121 Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (r9Jjf)

Well? What's the secret?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:50 PM (wYseH)

122 Great White, apparently pork butt ends up more like ham than bacon, but depends on spices and how you cut it. Figure it's worth one try. If somehow I get inexpensive pork belly, will sub that. Bacon yesterday was amazing.


Re Amash, not a fan of reductionist explanations, and he's come off like an idiot before, but turns out he has direct, maybe substantial financial interest in a Chinese company that may be affected by tariffs. My oh my.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:52 PM (QDnY+)

123 I live to correct English usage. Shakespeare's phrase was "to guild gold, to paint the lily".

It's a thing now and everyone says it but it's wrong.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (fuK7c)
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Shall we discuss "the proof is in the pudding?"

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:52 PM (aXucN)

124 >> https://tinyurl.com/yxvu282x

That converts 10E^6 ng to lbs, and the result is
2.2E-5 lbs. which is 10 mg.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:52 PM (NMAzL)

125 Thanks, My Life!

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 04:52 PM (Z9NCH)

126 What am I missing?https://tinyurl.com/yxvu282x
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (RDX/f)


The display cuts off the power of ten. Scroll to the right

10,000,000 ng = 2.20462262e-5 lb.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:53 PM (YqDXo)

127 pep, the thing you should really look for when choosing asparagus is tightly closed tips. Those will be the freshest and taste the best, whether the stalks are thick or thin. And, of course, don't overcook them! Better underdone than overdone.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:53 PM (aXucN)

128 Carrots!!!!!! in sloppy joe's.


Just wanted to note that.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:53 PM (QDnY+)

129 Snakes on sticks would put me off eating altogether.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (EjlXc)

130 118 I learned an important asparagus lesson this week. I've been selecting the smallest diameter stalks I can find, on the theory that they're more tender and less fibrous. It turns out, it's just the opposite. The smaller stalks have a higher fiber density, and also wilt and taste terrible as leftovers.

This is an object lesson in how our minds word, specifically ignoring the facts to meet a preconceived notion. Since I've eaten both thin and thick asparagus, I should have known this already.


I guess that makes sense, since the tough fibers are around the outer surface, and thinner asparagi have a higher surface-to-core ratio. But I've always thought the same as you, contra simple logic.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (r9Jjf)

131 You're welcome!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (ppIpx)

132 And My Life, I agree with you on amounts: what looks right is what is what goes in.

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (Z9NCH)

133
Here is the Google conversion of 10 million nanograms to milligrams:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yyaw5nld

Nothing put shifting powers of 10

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM (NMAzL)

134 CBD Water, now improved with 20% more dildo!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM (4knXT)

135 Snakes on sticks would put me off eating altogether.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (EjlXc)
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My first thought when I saw that picture is that if those were my food choices, I'd be on an Ace-style fast in a heartbeat.

Well, that was my second thought. My first thought was what did we do that CBD thinks we deserve this?

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM (aXucN)

136 >>Carrots!!!!!! in sloppy joe's.


>>Just wanted to note that.

I'm pretending I didn't see it. You people sticking carrots where they don't belong.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM (/tuJf)

137 Mrs. DIG is watching the Hallmark Channel murder mystery thingy.
The bad guy is a woman who is being an 'angel of death' because her boyfriend doesn't pay attention to her, or something like that.

Oh, I'm sooo triggered.....
LMAO


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (ufFY8)

138 Speaking of worms, remember this word: Fenbendazole. It's a de-wormer for dogs. Anecdotally, it cures some cancers.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (KOCKb)

139 Dunno, sort of prefer thinner asparagus. But don't need that much of any kind. All that folic acid is for pregnant mothers, not normal people. I still tolerate it, and fresh, grilled, with some seasoning is allowed.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (QDnY+)

140 Well, that was my second thought. My first thought was what did we do that CBD thinks we deserve this?
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM (aXucN)

If you don't already know, there's no point trying to explain.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (NWiLs)

141 >> Carrots!!!!!! in sloppy joe's.


Just wanted to note that.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:53 PM (QDnY+)

Shhh! Don't get me banned! (I know it sounds kinda gross, but it works- and I hate cooked carrots.)

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (ppIpx)

142 10 Aieeee! What is that last picture???
Reminds me of a trip to Taiwan and the stories about "snake alley."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (W+vEI)

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Night markets in China sell that stuff. The snakes look downright appetizing compared to the giant roaches.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (4knXT)

143
Call 2.2e^-5 lbs 22 micropounds. 10 mg is 22 ulbs.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 04:57 PM (NMAzL)

144 If you don't already know, there's no point trying to explain.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 04:56 PM (NWiLs)
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You sound like him.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:57 PM (aXucN)

145 You can't have just one giant spider on a stick.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2019 04:58 PM (EZebt)

146 >>Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (Z9NCH)

Not many of mom's or either of my grandma's main course recipes were written down. Lots of trial and error recreating some over the years.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 04:59 PM (ppIpx)

147 Carrots!!!!!! in sloppy joe's.
Just wanted to note that.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:53 PM


A rotary mixer of mammalian digestive system outputs, you are.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 04:59 PM (DMUuz)

148 Carrots are actually a fairly good way to add sweetness to certain foods. In sloppy joe's, could imagine they'd fade into the overall flavor.


Was just doing my weak version of homage to HQ memes. And I think I saw Cochran on a thread last week.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 04:59 PM (QDnY+)

149 I believe we should all be de-wormed occasionally. About as often as a colonoscopy.
OK. This is the food thread. I will behave. A little bourbon and I turn into Cliff Claven.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 05:00 PM (KOCKb)

150 70 Wrapped sweet corn in bacon and then grilled it. Not bad for a first attempt. Need to use 2 strips per ear and then find a way to anchor better so it doesn't fall off when flipping.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (eUh+X)
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How about anchoring them using those little corn cob picks?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:00 PM (kQs4Y)

151 I guess some people need to feel good about their diets and want to infuse everything they eat with some virtue-signalling message


Food is one of the easiest things to re-invent to appeal to the utopian impulse. How many chemicals/substances/supplements/nutrients get touted as magical ingredients when they often exist in no more than a trace?


The idea that you're mystically perfecting yourself when you have a few more micrograms of some obscure substance is an easy sell to the rubes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 05:00 PM (oVJmc)

152 >> All that folic acid is for pregnant mothers, not normal people.

Or people taking methotrexate for RA and other conditions.

Folic acid helps counter some of the side effects of MTX (which shows that the anti-folate properties of MTX is not the main mode of action of MTX against RA).

You take 1mg of folic acid daily. You can get that in a prescription of 1mg tablets, or just use the OTC supplements, which are 400 and 800 ug tablets.

I started getting pregnancy and infant ads from CVS after I started buying the folate supplements.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 19, 2019 05:00 PM (NMAzL)

153 My first thought was what did we do that CBD thinks we deserve this?
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM


Could not rooting for the consistently best team in MLB be a factor?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 05:01 PM (DMUuz)

154 37 beans wrapped in bacon

ps, knowing me, (not on the keto diet), I probably would have stuck a piece of cheese in there somewhere!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (vEIlU)

Definitely!

Being late to the thread, I was going to post this and then decided to do a search on the word 'cheese'.

BOOM! There you were!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:01 PM (cF8AT)

155 Anyone try smoking artichokes?

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM (25Dt7)

156 Could not rooting for the consistently best team in MLB be a factor?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 05:01 PM (DMUuz)
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I'd like to think he's come over to the light and is now rooting for the Red Sox, but alas, I don't think so.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM (aXucN)

157 135
Snakes on sticks would put me off eating altogether.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 04:54 PM (EjlXc)

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My first thought when I saw that picture is that if those were my food choices, I'd be on an Ace-style fast in a heartbeat.



Well, that was my second thought. My first thought was what did we do that CBD thinks we deserve this?



Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 04:55 PM (aXucN)

+++It's as if people say to themselves, what would be the most revolting food you'd ever consider eating? And I would say, I never put myself up to that kind of standard when it comes to choosing my food.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM (EjlXc)

158 Anyone try smoking artichokes?
Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM


Aren't they hard to light?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 05:03 PM (DMUuz)

159 ps, knowing me, (not on the keto diet), I probably would have stuck a piece of cheese in there somewhere!

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Yep. One piece of cheese for every two spiders.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 05:03 PM (4knXT)

160 >>Anyone try smoking artichokes?

They clog the bong.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (/tuJf)

161 Red Sox just snapped the Astros' 10-game winning streak.

Clam chowdah for everyone!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (aXucN)

162 >>My first thought when I saw that picture is that if those were my food choices, I'd be on an Ace-style fast in a heartbeat.


Heh. Another reaction: "What is: things you'll never see served on a stick at a mid-western state fair?"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (W+vEI)

163 My Life, we lost my gramma's cake recipe that way, it was a chocolate layer cake (cake from scratch of course) with chocolate frosting but in between the layers the filling was somewhere between tapioca (but it wasn't, we tried that) and vanilla pudding.

One of the best DISHES, not just deserts, I have ever eaten, and its gone.

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (Z9NCH)

164 >> Carrots are actually a fairly good way to add sweetness to certain foods. In sloppy joe's, could imagine they'd fade into the overall flavor.

True.

When my kids were little and semi-picky eaters, I would puree any offending vegetable before adding it into the sauce. Got the taste and benefit without the knowledge of eeew, carrots etc.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (ppIpx)

165 Anyone try smoking artichokes?
Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM

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I've licked some toads. Does that count?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (4knXT)

166 Fried breaded rattlesnek is actually rather good. Don't think said rattlesneks are going to be around much tomorrow. High of 62, low of 38. In SE AZ. In May. Where is all this global warming we were promised?

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Si vis Pacem, Para Bellum) at May 19, 2019 05:05 PM (l7Kbv)

167 Trumpenfuhrer talking trash agin' the mullahs [twatters].


Time to sound the Fainting Couch Alarm for Code Pink, and for many on the "right".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 05:06 PM (QDnY+)

168 I've licked some toads. Does that count?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM


#MeToo

Posted by: Stormy D. at May 19, 2019 05:06 PM (DMUuz)

169 Well? What's the secret?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 04:50 PM (wYseH)


Well, there may be more than one, since I made the old change-mulitple-variables-at-once mistake. But here are the possibilities:

- Make a preferment using just a tablespoon or two of starter. Before I would use a larger amount of starter directly in the dough, and even with long proofing times (up to 24h) I didn't get the tang, even though everything worked mechanically (i.e., good rise, oven spring, crumb, etc).
- Use some whole wheat flower in the preferment. Possibly other types of flour might work here (spelt, rye, etc. - I don't have any of those at the moment).I use 25 to 30 pct.
- Make the preferment on the dry side. 50 - 60 pct. hydration.
-Bulk proof at a warmer temperature - My most flavorful attempt was proofed at about 90 deg.F. I think the Lactobacillus sanfranciscensis, which produces the tang, thrives at 91 deg.

That's the best I can figure. I'm going to experiment more. BTW, the loaf I just made is pretty subtle in flavor. I made the preferment yesterday morning, threw the dough together last night after getting home from the emergency vet, then it proofed on the counter & then in my car as drove 2 1/2 hours to my dad's house, where I am now. Definitely was not proofed at 90 deg.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 05:07 PM (r9Jjf)

170 My Life, we lost my gramma's cake recipe that way, it was a chocolate layer cake (cake from scratch of course) with chocolate frosting but in between the layers the filling was somewhere between tapioca (but it wasn't, we tried that) and vanilla pudding.

One of the best DISHES, not just deserts, I have ever eaten, and its gone.
Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (Z9NCH)
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Oh, that's such a shame. Don't give up, though. Keep searching on the internet - you never know, you might something very similar or even the same.

Or, maybe see if you can find some old-timey cookbooks and look in those, at the library or in used book stores.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (aXucN)

171 Yesterday's supper wife made home made wheat noodles, more like a fettuccine for spaghetti, pretty good.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (BbGew)

172 167
Trumpenfuhrer talking trash agin' the mullahs [twatters].



Now, I'm not saying Ahmed likes the goats a little too much, but when he catches an STD, it's hoof and mouth.

Posted by: pep at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (T6t7i)

173 I can easily envision (envisage to my Brit friends) taking three or four green beans (or asparagus) and slicing them longwise. Take a sliver of cheese and wrap the bean around it. Then (or during) wrap the bacon around the beans.
Voila!

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 05:09 PM (KOCKb)

174 Thanks bluebell, was going to call my sis today anyway, I think we should take up the pursuit again!

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 05:09 PM (Z9NCH)

175 Does that CBD Living Water come in a gluten-free version with CoQ10 with chondroitin? If so, I'd buy some if they would just change the name because "living" water is SO ableist - it's inconsiderate of the intersectional struggles of those who have no life.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at May 19, 2019 05:10 PM (7O3zK)

176 Kinlaw, that's so sad.

I found one of my grandma's recipes in an old cookbook that was put together for her church. From the 50s. So cool!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:10 PM (ppIpx)

177 163 My Life, we lost my gramma's cake recipe that way, it was a chocolate layer cake (cake from scratch of course) with chocolate frosting but in between the layers the filling was somewhere between tapioca (but it wasn't, we tried that) and vanilla pudding.

One of the best DISHES, not just deserts, I have ever eaten, and its gone.

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 05:04 PM (Z9NCH)

Any of these sound right? Was it a mousse between the layers?

https://tinyurl.com/yyssuclh

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:10 PM (cF8AT)

178 I stopped into a Dickey's the other day and got a rack of their pork ribs and a bottle of their sauce.

Not bad, not bad at all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 05:10 PM (Z+IKu)

179 >>Time to sound the Fainting Couch Alarm for Code Pink, and for many on the "right".



Did you see that John Brennan and Wendy Sherman are briefing some Democrat Congressman on Iran next week? These Obama people just will not butt out. Hell, Brennan no longer has security clearance.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 05:10 PM (W+vEI)

180 156
Could not rooting for the consistently best team in MLB be a factor?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 05:01 PM (DMUuz)

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I'd like to think he's come over to the light and is now rooting for the Red Sox, but alas, I don't think so.



Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM (aXucN)

Pffft.....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at May 19, 2019 05:10 PM (ufFY8)

181 171 Yesterday's supper wife made home made wheat noodles, more like a fettuccine for spaghetti, pretty good.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (BbGew)
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How many wives do you have, and are they specialized? Antepasta wife, cocktail wife, entre wife, dessert buffet wife, etc.?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:11 PM (kQs4Y)

182 Tami, I have to go (back to the real world) now, but I will look into that link as soon as I can.
Thanks much.

Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 05:12 PM (Z9NCH)

183 I'm OK with cooked carrots, possibly even (Horrors!) in chili, though I've never tried it. I use carrots in my go-to spaghetti/pasta sauce.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 05:13 PM (r9Jjf)

184 108
Sounds more like tassa ham depending on the seasoning

Posted by: Lone Ranger at May 19, 2019 05:13 PM (qcdQU)

185 Thanks bluebell, was going to call my sis today anyway, I think we should take up the pursuit again!
Posted by: kinlaw at May 19, 2019 05:09 PM (Z9NCH)
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You really should! From the description it sounds like the filling might have cornstarch in it. You might try looking for vanilla cake fillings with cornstarch. I think that kind of filling was used a lot years ago but not so much now.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:13 PM (aXucN)

186 The grilled spiders, and the snakey-tentacly things - no, nope. Nope, Nope, Nowayinhell. Ordinarily I am pretty open-minded about things grilled with a spicy sauce, but not that.

Doing a baked butterflied chicken, on a bed of sauteed onions and sliced bread for supper tonight. A recipe from an old copy of Cuisine at Home, from a place called Zingermans'. It's divine!
http://www.grouprecipes.com/136529/zingermans-roast-chicken-in-a-skillet.html

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 19, 2019 05:14 PM (xnmPy)

187 Yesterday's supper wife made home made wheat noodles, more like a fettuccine for spaghetti, pretty good.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (BbGew)


Where can one find a supper wife?

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 05:14 PM (r9Jjf)

188 Posted by: AZ Hi Desert

* * * * *

Is that really your forecast? Up here in Scottsdale we hit 80 and looks like mid 70s tmro. BTW - exactly how did the hype "Scientists" determine what year would be our baseline goal to "normalize" the climate? Who determines that? I dont recall getting a polling mailer on that. Oh well, I suppose the know best.

Posted by: Hayden Sterling at May 19, 2019 05:16 PM (7O3zK)

189 If the spiders were battered and deep-fried, and I was very, very drunk, then maybe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:16 PM (kQs4Y)

190 >> Yesterday's supper wife made home made wheat noodles, more like a fettuccine for spaghetti, pretty good.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (BbGew)

I have never attempted homemade noodles. Is it difficult to make them turn out?

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:16 PM (ppIpx)

191 Thanksgiving spider-- EVERYBODY gets a drumstick!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 05:18 PM (oVJmc)

192 Did you see that John Brennan and Wendy Sherman are briefing some Democrat Congressman on Iran next week?
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It's Cheshire Cat diplomacy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:18 PM (xSo9G)

193 If the spiders were battered and deep-fried, and I was very, very drunk, then maybe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage



You would eat them live on a dare and so would I.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 05:19 PM (fuK7c)

194 Re: spiders on a stick

There is no way I'm eating something that I would hit with a shoe if I saw it near me.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:20 PM (ppIpx)

195 If the spiders were battered and deep-fried, and I was very, very drunk, then maybe.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
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That, and people I know were already eating them with relish...uh...enthusiasm.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:20 PM (CDGwz)

196 My wife can make them easy enough, and they cook much faster and don't have that hardness you can get with dried pasta. We have the Kitchen I'd mixer attachments but she cuts them by hand.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:20 PM (BbGew)

197 It's too hot to eat so enjoying lime Perrier with pomegranate juice.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:21 PM (dyaak)

198 I was about to write "All you morons with grandma's recipes, Shut Up!" But you all are so lucky. My grandmothers were upper middle class. They had cooks. I have ZERO recipes from my grandmothers. My mom didn't learn to cook from her mom. She learned to cook after marrying my dad. I have hand-written recipes for Gum Drops and Orange Straws (which was a candy made from orange peels.) You all are so blessed and so am I.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 05:21 PM (KOCKb)

199 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4vudA72hibg&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Emmie at May 19, 2019 05:21 PM (4HMW8)

200 Spiders on a stick are another a whole bottle of scotch won't help to get down.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 05:22 PM (BbGew)

201 kinlaw, here's a recipe for Cream Filling from a first edition of Better Homes and Gardens cookbook (1953).

5 tablespoons flour
1/2 cup sugar
1/2 tsp. salt
2 cups milk, scalded
2 slightly beaten eggs
1 tsp. vanilla

Mis flour, sugar, salt; slowly stir in milk; cook in double boiler 15 minutes or until thick.

Add a little of hot mixture to eggs; stir into remaining hot mixture. Continue cooking 3 minutes; add vanilla; cool. Makes 2 1/3 cups.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:23 PM (aXucN)

202 Skip, I had a friend who made them. They would sit out on a towel on her table. (drying?) She cut them in strips. Seemed like a lot of work. I do have a kitchen aid, but not that attachment. Hmmm.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:23 PM (ppIpx)

203 Yesterday's supper wife made home made wheat noodles, more like a fettuccine for spaghetti, pretty good.
Posted by: Skip
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Some here have asked the wrong question. The real question is, 'Who is today's supper wife ?'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:23 PM (CDGwz)

204 The older I get, the more kosher (with regard to spiders and snakes) I get.Just bought some more Pork Loin at Food Lion for $1.49 / lb. So I will never be completely kosher.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 05:24 PM (KOCKb)

205 Anyone try smoking artichokes?
Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM

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I've licked some toads. Does that count?
Posted by: Cicero

I try to forget those tequila dates

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 05:25 PM (25Dt7)

206 What condiments would you put on giant spider?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

207
I have never attempted homemade noodles. Is it difficult to make them turn out?

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:16 PM (ppIpx)


I don't think so. I have a pasta roller for the Kitchenaid. In a bigger kitchen now, so it's time to make pasta again. Think I will dry the lasagna noodles flat this time.

Hmm, wonder if you could use homemade lasagna noodles in a no boil the noodles lasagna?

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:27 PM (kRPTw)

208 Hipsters!

https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/ deep-fried-tarantula-spider-51184810

Tarantulas make for a tasty and texturally satisfying meal. Here's why!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:28 PM (kQs4Y)

209 kinlaw, I just had another thought - did your grandma call that cake Boston Cream Pie, by any chance? Because that's kind of what it sounds like to me. You can find lots of recipes for that, which, in spite of its name, is actually a cake, not a pie.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:29 PM (aXucN)

210 "Singe off any of the spider's body hairs with a crème brûlée torch or butane cigarette lighter."

O_o

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:30 PM (kQs4Y)

211 Pro tip: If you husband says "hey, can you come help me with something. All you have to do it hit the 'on' switch when I tell you" DO.NOT.DO IT.

Spent the last 2 hours feeding insulation into a feeder while he was up on a ladder with the hose. Damn feeder was so sensitive you had to feed it a bit of insulation at a time. Too much and it would clog up.

I was covered with insulation dust....hair, arms, glasses.

When he handed me the mask to put on I should have run....

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:30 PM (cF8AT)

212 What condiments would you put on giant spider?
Posted by: JackStraw
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Dunno, but I'm thinking they are best when cooked on a Weber grill.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:30 PM (xSo9G)

213 Infidel, I've never used the no boil noodles either. One of those things where if I go to the trouble of making the sauce etc, i wouldn't want the dish to not turn out. Have you? Do they really work/have the same finished texture?

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (ppIpx)

214 206 What condiments would you put on giant spider?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:26 PM (/tuJf)

Shoe heel.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (cF8AT)

215 https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/ deep-fried-tarantula-spider-51184810

Tarantulas make for a tasty and texturally satisfying meal. Here's why!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:28 PM (kQs4Y)
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Oh my. This recipe won the chef the gold medal at the "first-ever Big Bug Cookoff." Still not gonna try it tho.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (aXucN)

216 >>> Some here have asked the wrong question. The real question is, 'Who is today's supper wife ?'

Do you have a lunch wife?

Posted by: fluffy at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (dCRRg)

217 What condiments would you put on giant spider?


Termite chutney.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 05:32 PM (fuK7c)

218 "Singe off any of the spider's body hairs with a crème brûlée torch or butane cigarette lighter."

O_o
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:30 PM (kQs4Y)


I mean, I guess you could use that, if you didn't have a spider body hair torch for some reason. It won't come out like it would if you'd used a real spider body hair torch, but it's not like the kind of person who doesn't own at least one spider body hair torch could notice the difference.

*sips CBD water*

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (t+qrx)

219 "Singe off any of the spider's body hairs with a crème brûlée torch or butane cigarette lighter."

O_o
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:30 PM (kQs4Y)
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That reminds me of one of the recipes we got for TDG. The first line was "defuzz and degut three squirrels."

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (aXucN)

220 JAS, homemade gum drops and orange straws ? Those sound awesome!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (ppIpx)

221 'What condiments would you put on giant spider?'

Tomato ketchup.

What?

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (UdKB7)

222 When he handed me the mask to put on I should have run....
When you love a man, you cannot run.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (KOCKb)

223 213 Infidel, I've never used the no boil noodles either. One of those things where if I go to the trouble of making the sauce etc, i wouldn't want the dish to not turn out. Have you? Do they really work/have the same finished texture?

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (ppIpx)


My life, haven't tried. My line of thought was fresh/homemade noodles don't take long to cook, so if the sauce was a little thin, it might work. But you are right. I would hate to go to all that work and have it fail.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:34 PM (kRPTw)

224 What condiments would you put on giant spider?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:26 PM (/tuJf)


Certainly not maple syrup.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:34 PM (t+qrx)

225 Tami, you deserve to be treated to a lovely cocktail and then a nice dinner, which you have not prepared and which is not chicken.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:35 PM (aXucN)

226 'What condiments would you put on giant spider?'



Tomato ketchup.



What?

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (UdKB7)

You could have maple syrup available too.

Posted by: Vendette at May 19, 2019 05:35 PM (KpItb)

227 I'd at least cook the homemade lasagna strips half-way before placing in the layering dish.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:35 PM (dyaak)

228 What, no roadkill recipes, in honor of California's recentlyproposed legislation to legalize "salvaging recently deceased wildlife?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 05:35 PM (YqDXo)

229 Is that organic water?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:36 PM (MVjcR)

230 So, tying the threads together, there's a factory where Asian women give CBD hand jobs so they can "produce" this "water"?

Posted by: Ian S. at May 19, 2019 05:36 PM (6XLoz)

231 Is that organic water?
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:36 PM (MVjcR)


Dehydrated.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:36 PM (t+qrx)

232 Pre-cooked Tony Roma baby back ribs from the grocery store is my go to. They come in it's own cooking pan. Short time in the oven and food heaven.

I'm very easy to please.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at May 19, 2019 05:37 PM (2DOZq)

233 213 Infidel, I've never used the no boil noodles
either. One of those things where if I go to the trouble of making the
sauce etc, i wouldn't want the dish to not turn out. Have you? Do they
really work/have the same finished texture?



Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (ppIpx)





My life, haven't tried. My line of thought was fresh/homemade
noodles don't take long to cook, so if the sauce was a little thin, it
might work. But you are right. I would hate to go to all that work and
have it fail.


Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:34 PM (kRPTw)

The meat lasagna our family ate and I still occasionally make used dry lasagna noodles and the baking time was around an hour; it depended on how cooked you wanted the noodles.

Posted by: Vendette at May 19, 2019 05:37 PM (KpItb)

234 Maybe you could laser off the spider hair or wax it off.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:38 PM (dyaak)

235 Eris, did you read through to the end?

"Encourage your guests to try the legs first and, if still hungry, to nibble on the meat-filled mesothorax, avoiding the spider's paired fangs, which are tucked away in the head region."

🤢

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:38 PM (aXucN)

236 Hmm, wonder if you could use homemade lasagna noodles in a no boil the noodles lasagna?

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:27 PM (kRPTw)

Learned a trick from reading some reviews of a lasagna recipe written by caterers...don't boil any lasagna noodles. Soak them in hot water for a bit while you make the cheese filling or the meat sauce. Works great...I've done it a couple of times.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:39 PM (cF8AT)

237 That reminds me of one of the recipes we got for TDG. The first line was "defuzz and degut three squirrels."

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (aXucN)
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Does he use a blow torch and gutting knife designed specifically for squirrels, or does he just pop it into a centrifuge?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:39 PM (kQs4Y)

238 Does he use a blow torch and gutting knife designed specifically for squirrels, or does he just pop it into a centrifuge?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:39 PM (kQs4Y)
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Well, part of the reason we couldn't include it in the book was that sadly, he didn't specify.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:40 PM (aXucN)

239 Don't Put Inane Things In Good Food

But muh Vanilla Cardamom Quinoa IPA.

Posted by: Craft Beer Douchebag at May 19, 2019 05:40 PM (DJSIE)

240 222 When he handed me the mask to put on I should have run....

When you love a man, you cannot run.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (KOCKb)

Wanna bet...

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:41 PM (cF8AT)

241 I mean, I guess you could use that, if you didn't have a spider body hair torch for some reason.
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The premier torch is no doubt Italian...or possibly French, and is known to dink hipsters everywhere by the name of the manufacturer.

"You then bruciacchiatura using a Zanussi", or some such.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:42 PM (CDGwz)

242 I came across grilled chicken intestines in The Philippines, which looked something like those snaky looking things but smaller.
Maybe they're grilled turkey intestines or ostrich intestines.
I had a brief opportunity to buy and try roasted grasshoppers in Uganda. I didn't hop on it quickly enough.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 19, 2019 05:42 PM (JgA4k)

243 "Encourage your guests to try the legs first and, if still hungry, to nibble on the meat-filled mesothorax, avoiding the spider's paired fangs, which are tucked away in the head region."
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:38 PM (aXucN)


You know, people read stuff like that and try not to spew lunch, but to me, this is indistinguishable from people raving about shrimp or lobster.

🤢

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:43 PM (t+qrx)

244 225 Tami, you deserve to be treated to a lovely cocktail and then a nice dinner, which you have not prepared and which is not chicken.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:35 PM (aXucN)

Right!? Imma give you my husband's cell #!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:43 PM (cF8AT)

245 Maybe you could laser off the spider hair or wax it off.
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:38 PM (dyaak)

How do you get them to stand still for the waxing.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 19, 2019 05:43 PM (JgA4k)

246 But muh Vanilla Cardamom Quinoa IPA.
Posted by: Craft Beer Douchebag at May 19, 2019 05:40 PM (DJSIE)

Ooh, time for a dragon fruit and rambutan-infused pale ale!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (kQs4Y)

247 But shrimp tastes good. Lobster tastes goood.

Posted by: Vincent Vega at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (fuK7c)

248 >>Tami, you deserve to be treated to a lovely cocktail and then a nice dinner, which you have not prepared and which is not chicken.

Giant spider on a stick?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (/tuJf)

249 Do they really work/have the same finished texture?

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:31 PM (ppIpx)


The no-boil noodles work. Just make sure to use plenty of sauce, and that they're fully covered before cooking. Their texture is different, though. Softer, less chewy than regular lasagne noodles.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 05:45 PM (r9Jjf)

250 Giant spider on a stick?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (/tuJf)
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That's your idea of a nice dinner? Ok.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:45 PM (aXucN)

251 Tami, thanks, I will try that. Seems easier than boiling water and better than using dry.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (kRPTw)

252 Giant spider on a stick?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (/tuJf)

The stick will make it easier when I tell you where to put that.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (cF8AT)

253 245. Roofies

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (dyaak)

254 I prefer my spiders in the yard sprayed with diazanon.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (MVjcR)

255 Tami, LOL!

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (aXucN)

256 >>The no-boil noodles work. Just make sure to use plenty of sauce, and that they're fully covered before cooking. Their texture is different, though. Softer, less chewy than regular lasagne noodles.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 19, 2019 05:45 PM (r9Jjf)

Thanks! I always go heavy on the sauce, so I may try it next time.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:47 PM (ppIpx)

257 Snakes on sticks would put me off eating altogether.
Posted by: washrivergal

(Shrugs) I never et altogether/

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 05:47 PM (DLK3N)

258 Weasel, did you get your tractor (?) fixed?

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:47 PM (aXucN)

259 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:42 PM (CDGwz)

Or a Japanese spider depilator in the shape of a miniature kaiju that sings as you singe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:47 PM (kQs4Y)

260 Every day, millions of children struggle with hunger.
Not enough to eat a spider on a stick though. No way.

Posted by: The Sad Council at May 19, 2019 05:47 PM (UdKB7)

261 The premier torch is no doubt Italian...or possibly French, and is known to dink hipsters everywhere by the name of the manufacturer.

"You then bruciacchiatura using a Zanussi", or some such.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 05:42 PM (CDGwz)


Or Swiss. They probably have epic slap-battles over them.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (t+qrx)

262 Tami's on fire tonight!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (kQs4Y)

263 Back when survial shows were a thing there were a handful of fakers and one real thing.

Bear Grylls (fake) never slept outdoors and had a camera and support crew with him. He'd say "in an emergency you could eat a scorpion" and then he'd eat one, pulling all the possible faces.

Les Stroud (real) would go out without a crew and film himself. After four days of starving in the desert he'd catch and broil a handful of scorpions and would believably say "oh this is the best thing I've ever had in my life!"

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (fuK7c)

264 I've used those no-boil lasagna noodles ever since they came out and I'm never going back to the old ones. Just follow the directions on the package and make sure you cover the pan tightly with foil for the recommended amount of time so the noodles cook through.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:49 PM (aXucN)

265 219 That reminds me of one of the recipes we got for TDG. The first line was "defuzz and degut three squirrels."
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:33 PM (aXucN)


A Julia Child (I think) recipe I remember reading decades ago started with "Cut three live lobsters in half lengthwise."

Posted by: Splunge at May 19, 2019 05:49 PM (ed8K1)

266 So, its weed-water?

Posted by: Prince Tuesday at May 19, 2019 05:49 PM (vtd+q)

267 I was covered with insulation dust....hair, arms, glasses.

Sounds like porcupine love on schedule tonight. Be careful.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 05:49 PM (Jj+59)

268 251 Tami, thanks, I will try that. Seems easier than boiling water and better than using dry.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:46 PM (kRPTw)

Much easier...also, if you have time, leave the assembled lasagna in the fridge overnight. Allows all the flavors to meld.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:50 PM (cF8AT)

269 258 Weasel, did you get your tractor (?) fixed?
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:47 PM (aXucN)
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No - I need to tighten a fitting and add some really expensive hydraulic fluid. It was about 700 degrees in the shade yesterday and the thought of working on it was about as appealing as spiders for dinner.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:50 PM (MVjcR)

270 So, its weed-water?


JackStraw's your guy for bong water.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 05:50 PM (fuK7c)

271 >>The stick will make it easier when I tell you where to put that.

You try and be considerate and this is what you get.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:50 PM (/tuJf)

272 262 Tami's on fire tonight!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (kQs4Y)
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That's a shame. I liked her.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:51 PM (MVjcR)

273 Ah, I forgot. Cold water Australian Lobster arriving on Friday.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:51 PM (kRPTw)

274 No - I need to tighten a fitting and add some really expensive hydraulic fluid. It was about 700 degrees in the shade yesterday and the thought of working on it was about as appealing as spiders for dinner.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:50 PM (MVjcR)
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Ouch, sorry to hear that. You going down next weekend? Looks to be just as hot up here.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:51 PM (aXucN)

275 Some beautiful mer-folk cakes:

https://www.cakewrecks.com/

(Sunday cakes are beautiful professional cakes.)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:52 PM (kQs4Y)

276 Les Stroud (real) would go out without a crew and film himself. After four days of starving in the desert he'd catch and broil a handful of scorpions and would believably say "oh this is the best thing I've ever had in my life!"
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (fuK7c)


There are some Les Stroud outtakes where you see the (broadcast) scene of him fording the river and climbing the hill and trudging off into the distance, and then he comes all the way back for the camera and then does it over again to get where he's going. Because who else is going to carry it?

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:52 PM (t+qrx)

277 Learned a trick from reading some reviews of a lasagna recipe written by caterers...don't boil any lasagna noodles. Soak them in hot water for a bit while you make the cheese filling or the meat sauce. Works great...I've done it a couple of times.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:39 PM (cF8AT)


Great tip. I have been reducing the amount of time that I pre-cook lasagna noodles for some time now (as of the last try I was down to around 2 minutes), but if I can actually get away with just soaking them in hot water they will be a lot less bother and much easier to handle when assembling the dish. Will definitely try this the next time.

Posted by: HTL at May 19, 2019 05:52 PM (xOOs/)

278 This insect eating 'encouragement' goes hand-in-glove with food shaming about eating meat. The NWO crowd wants the masses eating bugs while they feast on Kobe beef.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 05:52 PM (dyaak)

279 262 Tami's on fire tonight!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (kQs4Y)

Impossible...I'm covered in insulation!


(J/k...I showered)

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:52 PM (cF8AT)

280 Tami, good idea. I always make 2 9x13 pans and one goes in the freezer. I figure if I'm going to all that work, might as well have a spare.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 05:53 PM (kRPTw)

281
Ouch, sorry to hear that. You going down next weekend? Looks to be just as hot up here.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:51 PM (aXucN)
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Probably! My farm work window is now from 7:00 - 7:30 am.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:53 PM (MVjcR)

282 I went back outside because it had cooled down to 90.
When I came back in it was 92.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 05:53 PM (UdKB7)

283 Tami's on fire tonight!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:48 PM (kQs4Y)
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That's a shame. I liked her.
Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:51 PM (MVjcR)


Be careful with those spider-bristle torches, folks. The danger is real.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 05:53 PM (t+qrx)

284 I used to go to the islands every year for photo work - and swinging by the local markets and grabbing a few boxes of Poke and a six pack was an afternoon ritual. The little markets usually have at least a dozen types, and I definitely had some favorites, spicy w/avocado and miso being among them.


For ribs, if you're forced to bake - I can highly recommend:
Prepare as usual (skin off back side) cut rack in half, and cook slowly in ginger ale (grab a couple of liter bottles on sale) for about an hour until they start to bend easily. Then, slather with your favorite sauce and finish up in the oven. They're always moist and fall-apart tender. You can put some smoke flavor in the ginger ale if you like, but I preferred just SP and then a good sauce.



I recently got a pellet smoker with an attached sear box (high heat char grilling previously the one lacking feature on pellet grills) so I can do reverse sears. Slowly smoke a steak until it just starts to get palm-firm, then sear at high heat. Perfectly, evenly rare all the way through, but not raw. Crunchy outside. Yum.



For ribs, just slow smoke at 220 all day. So far, they've been so wickedly good with just rub... I'm just needing to experiment with wood now. I've just been using a blend since I got the grill, but need to try straight hickory for the pork, oak or mesquite for beef. It's pouring rain tonight, so the ribs I have curing in rub will only be better tomorrow. Frozen pizza for the lazy! Yay!

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 19, 2019 05:54 PM (sLicW)

285 It appears that bottled water is jumping on the homeopathy bandwagon.

The water remembers.

I wonder if it remembers what I did last camping trip, and if that affects the treatment outcomes?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 05:54 PM (KTmSx)

286 I made chicken curry in the crockpot. It was good! Lots left over for lunches.

My apartment smells like a taxicab.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:54 PM (kQs4Y)

287 Ok, Bluebell! Your recommendation along with the others makes me think i can trust it. Thanks!

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 05:55 PM (ppIpx)

288 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:54 PM (kQs4Y)
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Hi Eris!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 05:56 PM (MVjcR)

289 WE INTERRUPT THIS FOOD THREAD TO BRING YOU AN IMPORTANT NEWS BULLETIN FROM SAN JOSE!

Let's Go Blues!

Play "Gloria"!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 05:57 PM (Cssks)

290 Tami's on fire tonight!

( Dumps a bucket if ice water on Tami)


Better ?

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 05:57 PM (DLK3N)

291 Made sesame chicken and broccoli in the slow cooker today.

Will be making kalbi ribs later on this week.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (RU4sa)

292 If you want to try Vietnamese food but don't want to have to shop all over to get all the exact ingredients, I just got Andrea Nguyen's Vietnamese cooking book--her latest one. It's excellent. I have made several Recipes from it and they're all delicious. Particularly the banana coconut bread pudding where you use your old bananas was amazing. Also pretty simple. She gives you a lot of options for substitutions so it doesn't turn into a buying binge from the exotic food section on Amazon or Whole Foods

Posted by: keena at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (RiTnx)

293 I live to correct English usage. Shakespeare's phrase was "to guild gold, to paint the lily".

It's a thing now and everyone says it but it's wrong.


Pearls before, swine, eh? You're emoting in front of a crew that uses "there's" for singular and plural cases.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (7s3Gx)

294 Hiya Weasel! Howzit?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (kQs4Y)

295 kinlaw, here's a recipe for Cream Filling from a first edition of Better Homes and Gardens cookbook (1953).

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 05:23 PM (aXucN)

I think that's the one my Mother gave to me when I left for school.

AND just found the Joy of Cooking in a box destined for I don't know where.

What do you do with 6 YO College chemistry books and texts about Judaism?

Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (OE84+)

296 289 WE INTERRUPT THIS FOOD THREAD TO BRING YOU AN IMPORTANT NEWS BULLETIN FROM SAN JOSE!

Let's Go Blues!

Play "Gloria"!

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 05:57 PM (Cssks)

Damnit I missed the game! Just checked the score YAY!!!

Effing insulation.....

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (cF8AT)

297 I'm sure someone has already mentioned this but.... that bacon wrapping technique works great for grilling asparagus.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (aShm1)

298 Giant spider on a stick?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (/tuJf)

Spider in a blanket.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (ufFY8)

299 Dildo water, shaken, not stirred.

Posted by: james Comey, Double-Naught Spy at May 19, 2019 06:00 PM (EgshT)

300 Everybody knows you skin a squirrel and make warm booties out of the skins.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 06:00 PM (j0Zty)

301 The only humans who eat spiders are horror movie characters, like Dracula's sidekick.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (dyaak)

302 Hey, Muad'dib. How's your bird buddy?

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (t+qrx)

303 I live to correct English usage. Shakespeare's phrase was "to guild gold, to paint the lily".

It's a thing now and everyone says it but it's wrong.

Pearls before, swine, eh? You're emoting in front of a crew that uses "there's" for singular and plural cases.



Actually you should have called me on spelling it "guild". I feel the shame.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (fuK7c)

304 But muh Vanilla Cardamom Quinoa IPA.

Posted by: Craft Beer Douchebag at May 19, 2019 05:40 PM (DJSIE)


Pumpkin spice wheat beer?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (KTmSx)

305 This insect eating 'encouragement' goes hand-in-glove with food shaming about eating meat.


Exactly right. One of the benefits of living in a first world country isn't that my smart phone is less than 2 years old. It's that I can go to the local market, choose the poultry, beef, pork, fish of my choice, and eat it. Like, the countries that call dead roaches or crickets a delicacy would chuck that shit in the trash in a heartbeat for a decent steak.


Show me footage of the media chowing down on stir-fried crickets and tarantula legs at the next WH press corps dinner along with recycled urine (vineyards take up valuable real estate that could be used for high density housing for the poor) and we can discuss changing my diet.

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (sLicW)

306 298 Giant spider on a stick?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (/tuJf)

Spider in a blanket.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt - Cub Fan at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (ufFY

Wrap it in bacon!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (kQs4Y)

307 Actually you should have called me on spelling it "guild". I feel the shame.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (fuK7c)


gelding a lily? Is this a thing?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 06:02 PM (KTmSx)

308 >>Spider in a blanket.

Good suggestion. Really classes it up.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 06:02 PM (/tuJf)

309 Give me Ham on five, and hold the spiders.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 06:02 PM (RuIsu)

310 >302 Hey, Muad'dib. How's your bird buddy?
Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (t+qrx)


He is apparently on his way to Canada to make baby warblers. God speed little buddy.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:03 PM (aShm1)

311 I'm starting to smell the leg of lamb. (Don't know the technique; that's her specialty). But it's been my go to meal since childhood. Early in our marriage, I used to get seafood along with it, but nowadays I don't have the appetite.

Enjoy the syrup, horde. With extra ketchup.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 06:03 PM (VaN/j)

312 He is apparently on his way to Canada to make baby warblers. God speed little buddy.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:03 PM (aShm1)


Well it was nice of him to stop and say hi.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 06:03 PM (t+qrx)

313 I painted my lily this morning.

Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at May 19, 2019 06:04 PM (EgshT)

314 What do you do with 6 YO College chemistry books and texts about Judaism?
Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (OE84+)
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Seriously, if you don't want them anymore, see if Amazon will buy them via their buy-back program.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:05 PM (aXucN)

315 >>>discard the abdomens from the two tarantulas


That is like throwing out the tasty bits inside the dungeness crab body.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 06:05 PM (1g7ch)

316 I understand the idea of manipulating atoms and molecules without understanding how it works, but since I'm not a scientist "nano" sounds like a phrase which Mork used in "Mork and Mindy". Maybe that was Nanoo-Nanoo

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 19, 2019 06:06 PM (ahS0B)

317 Actually you should have called me on spelling it "guild". I feel the shame.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 06:01 PM (fuK7c)

gelding a lily? Is this a thing?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 06:02 PM (KTmSx)


I Walk on Gelded Splinters.

Posted by: Dr. John the Night Tripper at May 19, 2019 06:06 PM (t+qrx)

318 Howdy bluebell and Eris!

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:06 PM (aShm1)

319 I'm cooking my basic meat and potatoes for dinner...

Large pan with cover, medium heat, melt a stick of butter, throw in a bulb of chopped garlic and a large chopped sweet onion.


On top of the butter/garlic/onion the large package of stew meat. At the supermarket meat department where I work we have Porterhouse and T-bones on sale this week. Yes, I grabbed the package of stew meat made from scraps of Porterhouse and T-bones. Score!

On top of the meat the sliced potatoes. Reds with the peels on. Salt and pepper on the taters.


Keep layered, do not stir until the taters are near done.

It's done when the taters are done.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:07 PM (EfMCv)

320 A Mississippi pot roast is a slow cooker roast made with pepperocinis, a au jus packet and a salad dressing packet. Its really really good, look it up. I used the allrecipies web site, but there are a ton of variations.

Posted by: Max Power at May 19, 2019 06:07 PM (QCc6B)

321 What do you do with 6 YO College chemistry books and texts about Judaism?
Posted by: golfman

Put them in a taped up box w/ a sign - For Sale $300.00

and put it out by the curb.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 06:07 PM (DLK3N)

322 >>I'm starting to smell the leg of lamb

Can you still here the lamb screaming, Eeyore?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 06:08 PM (/tuJf)

323 >>>Take a peak below the fold.

Peek. Take a peek.

Posted by: m at May 19, 2019 06:08 PM (ZfNws)

324 Seriously, if you don't want them anymore, see if Amazon will buy them via their buy-back program.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:05 PM (aXucN)

Thanks bluebell.

Not sure they are much good to the local library. Hate to just throw them out.

Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 06:08 PM (OE84+)

325 320 A Mississippi pot roast is a slow cooker roast made with pepperocinis, a au jus packet and a salad dressing packet. Its really really good, look it up. I used the allrecipies web site, but there are a ton of variations.

Posted by: Max Power at May 19, 2019 06:07 PM (QCc6B)

Mississippi anything is good. I've made it with chicken (of course...sigh) many times. And it's stupid easy.

I think I even gave it to Bluebell for the recipe book.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 06:10 PM (cF8AT)

326 Hiya Weasel! Howzit?


Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 05:59 PM (kQs4Y)
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All good here! glad to be home after a few days at the farm. You?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 06:11 PM (MVjcR)

327 I made an oxtail stew this week that would make your tongue beat your brains out.

It was amazing. A three day process, but not overly difficult.

First, I put the oxtails, some peppercorns and a couple bay leaves into my instapot and hit "soup broth."

put in the fridge overnight after it had cooled.

Next day, skimmed the fat and sautéed onions, carrots and celery for about 20 minutes. Then added the oxtails, another bay leaf , salt, cayenne, cumin to the veggies. Added back the broth, a can of stewed tomatoes and some red wine. Then added baby potatoes.

Bring to a boil, then into the oven for theee hours.

Cool. Into the fridge. Warm up on the stove the next day. It was fantastic!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 06:11 PM (PkVlr)

328 I gotta go cut my grass.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 06:12 PM (DLK3N)

329 >Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 06:11 PM (PkVlr)



Where does one procure ox tails?

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:13 PM (aShm1)

330 Why would one buy ox tails?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:14 PM (BbGew)

331 All good here! glad to be home after a few days at the farm. You?
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Enjoying the last precious hours of a very lazy weekend.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 06:14 PM (kQs4Y)

332 Orange Straws:
1 lb orange peels (6 medium or 4 large)6 qt. cold water2 Tbsp salt2 cups sugar
4 cups hot water
Remove all pulp and membrane from peel leaving skin and white peel intact. Cut with scissors into 1/4 in strips. Cook with 2 qts of water and salt in saucepan. Bring to boiling point (sic) and boil for 20 ' (minutes). Drain off salt water. Add 2qts of clear (cold) water. Cover saucepan and boil (another) 20 minutes. Drain and repeat clear water process. Drain again. Mix sugar and hot water in a saucepan and stir over low heat until the sugar is dissolved. When mixture is hot, add peel and simmer, stirring carefully until there is less than 1/4 cup of syrup left. Drain hot peels in a colander. Shake gently and spread over waxed paper sprinkled with sugar. Roll until heavily coated. When cool, store in a glass jar. Will keep fresh for 10 days.

Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 06:14 PM (KOCKb)

333 I made beans in the slow cooker yesterday, throwing whatever crossed my mind into, including bratwurst, a glug of bourbon and a splash of hot sauce.
It's really good-spicy.

Posted by: Northern Lurker, irritable, so very irritable. Have I mentioned I'm irritable? at May 19, 2019 06:14 PM (JgA4k)

334 320. that sounds like Jane's recipe.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 06:16 PM (dyaak)

335 I bought the oxtails at the Asian supermarket in town. Uwajimaya.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 06:17 PM (PkVlr)

336 Any supermarket meat department can get you 'oxtails'.

They're not really oxtails, those would be quite rare. They're actually cow tail.

You know what's the closest thing to a real oxtail?

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:17 PM (EfMCv)

337 I'm going nekkid to protest Emily Ratfuckowsky.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 06:17 PM (hjaPQ)

338 >
You know what's the closest thing to a real oxtail?
Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:17 PM (



Ox ass?

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:18 PM (aShm1)

339 You know what's the closest thing to a real oxtail?
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His oxass?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 06:18 PM (hjaPQ)

340 Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:18 PM (aShm1)


Yup.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:19 PM (EfMCv)

341 >>332 Orange Straws
Posted by: JAS at May 19, 2019 06:14 PM (KOCKb)

Nice! Thank you

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 06:19 PM (ppIpx)

342 >>Ox ass?


*rim shot

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 06:20 PM (/tuJf)

343 Enjoying the last precious hours of a very lazy weekend.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 06:14 PM (kQs4Y)
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Good for you!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 06:21 PM (MVjcR)

344 The only Asian market in our small town in northern WI is Hmong. And I've never seen ox or whatever tails.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:21 PM (aShm1)

345 I'm pretty sure there are more Cardinal fans at the Texas Rangers stadium than there are Ranger fans.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 06:21 PM (cF8AT)

346 Ox ass?
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:18 PM (aShm1)


Is that how you pronounce coccyx?

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 06:22 PM (t+qrx)

347 Beef-barley soup was my dad's favorite. Had ox tails. It was something I actually liked as a kid! Haven't made it in years.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 06:22 PM (ppIpx)

348 The only Asian market in our small town in northern WI is Hmong. And I've never seen ox or whatever tails.


I used to work at a place where lunches were catered. When we got oxtail it was Jamaican.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 06:23 PM (fuK7c)

349 I put a little weather station up at the farm. Just recorded a 2.6 mph wind gust. It's getting crazy down there!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 06:25 PM (MVjcR)

350 Actually you should have called me on spelling it "guild". I feel the shame.

I'm feeling gentle today (DOS Translation: worn out). Got a new computer from Puget Systems (thanks Aetius for pointing me towards them) and I've been flogging things along installing software, especially older games like the original Call of Duty Modern Warfare.
It's been going along pretty well with one exception. With respect to Photoshop deactivation/activation, Adobe can bite my hairy ass.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 06:25 PM (7s3Gx)

351 The Kapiolani Cafe in a bowling alley in the Palama neighborhood of Honolulu had the absolute best oxtail soup in the world. Then they repurposed the building for something stupid and the cafe was moved somewhere and eventually closed. That soup was awesome.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:28 PM (EfMCv)

352 Howdy bluebell and Eris!
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:06 PM (aShm1)
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Hiya sweetie! Still above freezing up there?

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:28 PM (aXucN)

353 Hubby and I have lots of recipes for ass.

Posted by: Mayor Pete at May 19, 2019 06:28 PM (OKp8N)

354 I bought the oxtails at the Asian supermarket in town. Uwajimaya.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 06:17 PM (PkVlr)


They also sell oxtails (and beef shank, for that matter) at QFC and Fred Meyer.

Posted by: HTL at May 19, 2019 06:29 PM (xOOs/)

355 Tonight's sammich: bologna, American cheese, onion and Duke's mayo. That's vittles!

Oh, and is it even legal to sell sliced American cheese 'product' that's not individually wrapped? My cheese slices were all ripped up and goofy.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 06:29 PM (MVjcR)

356 Today, a wet cool foggy day meant - Pot roast in a cast iron dutch oven! Meat was seared on all sides, pot deglazed with red wine, then moar red wine, beef stock, thyme, rosemary, onion, garlic. 325f for 4 hours...
and the Red Sox win!

Posted by: post prandial nap time at May 19, 2019 06:30 PM (K1IUD)

357 Kinlaw, my mom used to make Byrds custard that her sis would send from England. Cornstarch based. Very tasty

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at May 19, 2019 06:30 PM (Vf4Y7)

358 The best recipe in TDG was the baloney sammich one with the cross sections.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 06:31 PM (fuK7c)

359 Thanks bluebell.

Not sure they are much good to the local library. Hate to just throw them out.
Posted by: golfman at May 19, 2019 06:08 PM (OE84+)
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Just look up "textbook buyback program" on Amazon. You type in the ISBN, and they tell you if they'll take it and for how much. They'll send you a label to mail them in for free, and if they take them (they inspect them for condition), they'll deposit the money into your Amazon account. If they reject any, they will mail them back to you at no cost. It's worth trying!

If there are any Amazon won't take, you could look to see if there is a local homeschool group near you that you could donate them to.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:31 PM (aXucN)

360 The best recipe in TDG was the baloney sammich one with the cross sections.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 06:31 PM (fuK7c)
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Second in importance only to the drawings.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:32 PM (aXucN)

361 >
Hiya sweetie! Still above freezing up there?
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:28 PM (aXucN)



it was brutal at the cabin this morning. 36 degrees, pouring rain, 35 mph wind gusts. We got everything done but we were icicles.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:33 PM (aShm1)

362 The Kapiolani Cafe in a bowling alley in the Palama
neighborhood of Honolulu had the absolute best oxtail soup in the world.
Then they repurposed the building for something stupid and the cafe was
moved somewhere and eventually closed. That soup was awesome.



Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:28 PM (EfMCv)

That place, when it was in the bowling alley, appeared on Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives.

Posted by: Vendette at May 19, 2019 06:35 PM (KpItb)

363 That place, when it was in the bowling alley, appeared on Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives.


Posted by: Vendette at May 19, 2019 06:35 PM (KpItb)


No kidding? I'm gonna have to search YouTube for that...

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:37 PM (EfMCv)

364 354 I bought the oxtails at the Asian supermarket in town. Uwajimaya.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 06:17 PM (PkVlr)

They also sell oxtails (and beef shank, for that matter) at QFC and Fred Meyer.
Posted by: HTL at May 19, 2019 06:29 PM (xOOs/)

I got a rock.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 06:38 PM (NWiLs)

365 https://tinyurl.com/y46r8yfc

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:39 PM (EfMCv)

366 I am on cooking strike until we move to the new house in June. Can't wait to get my hands on the gas stove.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 06:43 PM (uTY3H)

367 Wait, that's a different place, not the Kapiolani Cafe... Imposters!

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:44 PM (EfMCv)

368 One, possibly two Katyusha rockets hit the Green Zone in Iraq. No injuries.

https://tinyurl.com/y5c52dt7

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 06:45 PM (hjaPQ)

369 not feelin' the oxtail soup

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 06:47 PM (dyaak)

370 It's supposed to snow tomorrow or possibly Tuesday, so I'm getting in some grilling time today. Pineapple slices, 3 minutes a side; then a spiral sliced ham for just about 2 hours at very low heat. That doesn't go directly on the grill; I stuck it in a cast iron skillet and put that on the grill. My dad started doing it that way for Christmas a few years back, when we had so much food that there was no room in the oven. Tastes amazing. Keep your fingers crossed the propane doesn't run out.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 19, 2019 06:47 PM (zlzYb)

371 Here's the real place(but gone now, sad)

https://tinyurl.com/y5eedy6k

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:49 PM (EfMCv)

372 366 I am on cooking strike until we move to the new house in June. Can't wait to get my hands on the gas stove.
Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 06:43 PM (uTY3H)
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Hi no good deed!

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

373 You might be in a mini ice age when it snows on Memorial day then on Labor day

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:49 PM (BbGew)

374 Hey, Weasel! How goes it?

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 06:50 PM (uTY3H)

375 374 Hey, Weasel! How goes it?
Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 06:50 PM (uTY3H)
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It goes good, thanks, and you?

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 06:50 PM (MVjcR)

376 it was brutal at the cabin this morning. 36 degrees, pouring rain, 35 mph wind gusts. We got everything done but we were icicles.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:33 PM (aShm1)
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By next weekend it will be 50 degrees and you will be complaining about the heat.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:51 PM (aXucN)

377 No good deed, where's the new house? Still in Maryland?

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:52 PM (aXucN)

378 >

By next weekend it will be 50 degrees and you will be complaining about the heat.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 06:51 PM (aXucN)



70's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 06:53 PM (aShm1)

379 94 1 ng = 10E-09 g

10E7 ng = 10E-02 g = 0.01g
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 04:43 PM (Ct55T)


Of course I would never actually know for sure, but that looks suspiciously like math.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 19, 2019 06:53 PM (sy5kK)

380 Man, I am task saturated right now. I can't wait for school to end for the year. They keep loading us up with stuff to do for the little heathens. We are staying in the area. I am sad that Texas is off the table...at least for the next few years.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 06:53 PM (uTY3H)

381 Yep, bluebell, still in Maryland.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 06:54 PM (uTY3H)

382 @Muad'dib, it snowed up here in Ashland today. yay.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:57 PM (EfMCv)

383 Why are they putting minuscule amounts of Charlie Brown's Dildo in water? Who would buy that sort of thing?

Posted by: Surfperch at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (tVQUs)

384 I just saw John Wick 3. He killed a lot of dudes in fantastic ways.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)

385 Don't know if you saw this on YouTube....talk about fresh caught fish....


http://tinyurl.com/y2fnwhks


Just reach in the trough next to your restaurant table and grab a fish.From the Orient of course.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (+0N+f)

386 Muaddib made it snow? He has outdone himself

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:59 PM (7iukN)

387 384 I just saw John Wick 3. He killed a lot of dudes in fantastic ways.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2019 06:58 PM (7iukN)

Don't spoil it! Some of us haven't seen the movie yet. Sheesh!

Posted by: sinalco at May 19, 2019 07:00 PM (yODqO)

388 >382 @Muad'dib, it snowed up here in Ashland today. yay.
Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 06:57 PM (Ef



It wanted to snow so bad. Just couldn't pull it off.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 19, 2019 07:00 PM (aShm1)

389 GUN NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:01 PM (BbGew)

Is "Rub And A Tug" Back On The Table In South Florida?
What A Surprise: The Cops Bungled The Kraft Sting...

The more laws we have, the more power government has. That is axiomatic for people with functioning brains, and here is a fine example of the problems unbridled government power can cause. Whether you think prostitution is victimless crime, the overreach by law enforcement in this case is obscene.

'Bungled from the beginning': How Robert Kraft's sex sting was marred by cops' missteps

Officials said their efforts were aimed in part at targeting suspected human trafficking at the massage parlors. They pointed to state health department inspections suggesting that sex workers from Asia were living at the businesses.

“Obviously our concern in this investigation centers around … the possibility of victims of human trafficking, the appearance of that,” Jupiter Police Chief Daniel Kerr said in February, adding that customers enable such illicit businesses to “flourish.”

State Attorney Dave Aronberg called human trafficking “evil in our midst,” adding that there is “the cold reality that many prostitutes in cases like this are themselves victims, often lured into this country with promises of a better life.”

But Aronberg’s office walked back the claims, telling Kraft’s judge that there was no evidence of human trafficking. It was just misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution charges for the men, and felony charges of making money from prostitution for the women.

Officials have said they hoped the sex workers would cooperate with investigators so they could bring more serious charges. That didn’t happen.

I love how the case went from uncovering a vast network of human traffickers -- modern day slavers -- to a hugely expensive and failed sting to rout out hand-jobs!

And gee...maybe these women didn't feel like cooperating because they sort of liked being in the United States instead of some third-world shithole.

And it sounds like somebody lied to the judge to get the warrant, because they admitted that there is no evidence of human trafficking!

The really sad part of this sordid mess is that without Kraft's involvement, which meant an unlimited defense fund, the cops would probably have gotten away with their lies and baldfaced unconstitutional behavior. If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

Posted by: CBD at 02:25 PM




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1 At least they don't have to worry about the batteries going kaput.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 02:29 PM (Ct55T)

2 Release the video!.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 02:30 PM (Z+IKu)

3 B4 10

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 02:31 PM (pw+jk)

4 But they were quick to release Kraft's name to the media.

And the media was quick to smear him, because, famous.

Government and Media conspiring to destroy individual US Citizens.

Why does that sound so... familiar... Flynn cough cough...

Posted by: Don Q at May 19, 2019 02:32 PM (NgKpN)

5 If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

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Sums up how we got Trump perfectly.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 02:35 PM (RU4sa)

6 I thought Kraft was specifically targeted because the 'spa' owner was Friend of Trump?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (smQOA)

7 Is State Atty. Dave Aronberg a demunist?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:38 PM (smQOA)

8 6 I thought Kraft was specifically targeted because the 'spa' owner was Friend of Trump?
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (smQO

If memory serves, the trump angle was played up in the very first reports coming out. Thought it was because Kraft was a trump supporter himself or something

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (Ct55T)

9 Do they use shape oil for their massage lube? Quicker State?

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (WETLn)

10 Shale oil, dammit!

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:40 PM (WETLn)

11 They - cops- installed the cameras on a pretext. Had they already established that Kraft was a regular there?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:41 PM (smQOA)

12 12
What killed this? The pictures of nude women getting rubs and the thought these asshole cops were watching them too.


Expect lawsuits to multiply. These are keystone cops at the best.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:42 PM (u3dHb)

13 Law enforcement in general really doesn't seem to be worth a rat's ass, does it?

Posted by: I'm Brother Cavil, and I ain't recommending shit at the moment at May 19, 2019 02:43 PM (lLeln)

14 8 Yes, he is. But the spa owner was a DJT donor and there's a pic of her with POTUS at Mar-a-lago.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:43 PM (smQOA)

15 6
I thought Kraft was specifically targeted because the 'spa' owner was Friend of Trump?

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (smQOA)

Nah, they didn't even know his man, but I suspect when a guy leaves a spa with a chauffeured Bentley, the cops were curious.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (u3dHb)

16 When Handjobs are illegal, something something something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (ycWCI)

17 If these a-holes really want to stop sex trafficking, then why don't they start supporting serious fixes to our immigration laws instead of supporting lawless "sanctuary" cities and states?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (k4dH2)

18 >>>Officials said their efforts were aimed in part at targeting suspected human trafficking at the massage parlors. They pointed to state health department inspections suggesting that sex workers from Asia were living at the businesses.


Back when this story first broke it was what, a multi-month investigation into sex slavery and how they would move the girls to different locations every week or so...

Bull shit.

If that was true, and the cops watched this going on for months, them Trump must be a RUSSIAN agent too.



Now, meh, not so much. Unauthorized wiring of the place with cameras, etc. expecting the slaves to turn states witness after finding out cops were making peep-holes vids for posting on pronhamster for months?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 02:45 PM (1g7ch)

19 If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.

Ah yes.. and it is broken
The prosecutors have to much leeway and money and it is not their money. If the prosecutors actually had somethIng to lose things might change

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:45 PM (Y+V3r)

20 The warrant allowed for the placement of cameras in the hand job rooms.

How making sex blackmail tapes leads to knowledge of human trafficking is beyond me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (fuK7c)

21 Ah yes.. and it is broken

The prosecutors have to much leeway and money and it is not their
money. If the prosecutors actually had somethIng to lose things might
change


There is a reason Soro is targeting State DA races. He knows the DAs have unlimited funds and can sue Republicans to death.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (u3dHb)

22 Any suggestion that this was motivated by urge to nail Kraft because he was Trump's friend, and to somehow implicate Trump?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (H8QX8)

23 Jesus GARY Sanchez got a triple lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:48 PM (Y+V3r)

24
Any suggestion that this was motivated by urge to nail Kraft because he was Trump's friend, and to somehow implicate Trump?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (H8QX

Would not shock me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (Y+V3r)

25 I'm not super fond of the defense team's work either: clearly Kraft was guilty of soliciting prostitution, he even freaking admitted it in an apology. But they got him free of charges because of a litany of technical things and I hate that. There's no justice if you can skate on a crime you admit to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (39g3+)

26 I'm not super fond of the defense team's work either: clearly Kraft was guilty of soliciting prostitution, he even freaking admitted it in an apology. But they got him free of charges because of a litany of technical things and I hate that. There's no justice if you can skate on a crime you admit to.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (39g3+)

It was only a handjob. Does not the gov have better things to do?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (Y+V3r)

27 Is anyone on the planet surprised the media is a huge lump of rat vomit? Course not. I am astonished that the police department and prosecutors chose to make a very powerful enemy on very little evidence. It's a perfect opportunity for the Trump DoJ to start making some arrests for malicious prosecution, conspiracy to libel, and perjury.

Posted by: trev006 at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (SEr2U)

28 How making sex blackmail tapes leads to knowledge of human trafficking is beyond me.

Yeah I'm not making that connection, either. The fact that sexual activity is happening is not evidence of human trafficking, you're not getting anywhere with that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (39g3+)

29 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (aXucN)

30 The sidebar has a link to linguists claiming the word "lox" goes back 8K years. I'm surprised they had liquid oxygen back then. Would Vic know?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (DMUuz)

31 Yeah, it never made sense to say that 'We discovered enslaved women but we will let their bondage continue for months so we can arrest a few Johns.'

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (yQpMk)

32 OK Aronberg is demonrat. This sting was intended to smear Trump - by association with lady spa owner - with sex trafficking charges. It was their dumb luck they hooked another bigger fish - Kraft - in the process. But ultimately their downfall because the billionaire's deep pockets exposed the LE scam.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (smQOA)

33 I'm not a fan of anything NE Patriots but the idea that Kraft's lawyers had to fight to keep private a tape of him getting a hand job is obscene.

What pressing public need is there to publish that kind of stuff?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (/tuJf)

34 Let loose the kraften!

Posted by: JuJuBee at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (kQ8nA)

35 Frank Zappa Magic Fingers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7v3QCHR0hU

"And beat you with a pair of tennis shoes I got from Jeff Beck..."

Posted by: pawn at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (ti2yD)

36 lol bluebell

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (RU4sa)

37 The sidebar has a link to linguists claiming the word "lox" goes back 8K years. I'm surprised they had liquid oxygen back then. Would Vic know?


Aliens. Chariots of the Cods.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (yQpMk)

38 Trump's Midas touch strikes again!

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 02:53 PM (smQOA)

39 What pressing public need is there to publish that kind of stuff?

Its hard to believe that a jury has to be shown the tapes in order to get a conviction. Nobody on earth wants to see that to begin with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:53 PM (39g3+)

40 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM


Perhaps maple syrup will be revealed to be more versatile than previously known.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:53 PM (DMUuz)

41
Me rub you rong time!

You cum 4 times, you leave now!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 02:54 PM (nxw5n)

42 Four Super Bowl rings -- maybe the cops should leave the guy alone.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 02:54 PM (ta49A)

43 marred by cops' missteps

"Guilty as sin, free as a bird."

Posted by: Bill Ayers at May 19, 2019 02:54 PM (sdi6R)

44 Robert Kraft.

The Cheese Investigation!

Posted by: Capt. Queeg at May 19, 2019 02:55 PM (t5m5e)

45 >>The really sad part of this sordid mess is that without Kraft's involvement, which meant an unlimited defense fund, the cops would probably have gotten away with their lies and baldfaced unconstitutional behavior. If it takes a billionaire to get justice in America, something is broken.


I'm probably too cynical, but it kinda seems like getting Kraft was the whole point?

They wanted to embarrass him at minimum, and could potentially have been used by the NFL bully him into selling or some other form of penance. Goodell hates the Pats, they hate Trump, and Kraft is friendly with Trump.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:55 PM (W+vEI)

46 Forty dolla,
Make you holla!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 02:55 PM (0tfLf)

47 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.

It's barbecue season.

If you're honest with yourself, you know you'd be exited to learn about a butt rub.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (oFlMR)

48 Using geometric logic, I was able to prove that a duplicate whore existed!

Posted by: Capt. Queeg at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (t5m5e)

49 To be fair, Kraft has so many Super Bowl rings on his fapping hand he needs hired hands.

Posted by: Wontsubmit at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (Xgl0T)

50 I just back to the last thread

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 02:56 PM (BbGew)

51 I thought the NE Patriots - and presumably their owner, Kraft - were "woke."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

52 30 The sidebar has a link to linguists claiming the word "lox" goes back 8K years. I'm surprised they had liquid oxygen back then.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (DMUuz)


Told you!

Posted by: Erich von Daniken at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (sdi6R)

53 If cops would have used SWAT and shot some people and dogs in the process the raid would have yielded more justice.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (Si9ix)

54 I heard a couple of weeks ago this case was going belly up but that was all I remember

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (BbGew)

55 >>Four Super Bowl rings -- maybe the cops should leave the guy alone.

Much as it pains me to say it, 6 Super Bowl rings.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (/tuJf)

56 I thought the NE Patriots - and presumably their owner, Kraft - were "woke."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (YqDXo)
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I believe Kraft is a Trump supporter and friend and therefore ungood.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (aXucN)

57 Kraft is friendly with Trump.

OK, I didn't know that. I'd presumed that someone from Boston who owns a team that is markedly opposed to Trump would himself be opposed to Trump.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (YqDXo)

58 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM

Pulled pork?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Y+V3r)

59 Biggest scandal since Teapot Dome. Overpaid Fed careers with early retirement and book deals will spring forth!

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (RuIsu)

60 Why do the cops need video in the first place? All they needed was an eyewitness or two to say Kraft is guilty.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (ta49A)

61 51 I thought the NE Patriots - and presumably their owner, Kraft - were "woke."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

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All nullified by his friendship with Trump.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (t5m5e)

62 So if buffonery ocurred, and someone made up some shit to get a warrant, did someone get charged...get arrested?

No? Quelle suprise.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (AwVzI)

63 Pulled pork?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Y+V3r)
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Oh dear lord, I hope he's not lurking here.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (aXucN)

64 Much as it pains me to say it, 6 Super Bowl rings.

Posted by: JackStraw
________

This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

65 There really is human trafficking going on, particularly to massage and manicure places but this is not the way to go about stopping it. They're claiming a huge crime and going after little stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (39g3+)

66 53 If cops would have used SWAT and shot some people and dogs


Shooting people bad for Asian message parlor business.

Shooting dog good for Asian restaurant business.

Posted by: Jack Wong's Massage Parlor and Korean BBQ at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (oFlMR)

67 Not on topic, but not entirely off-topic either, the governor just signed one senate and two house bills earlier this month prohibiting civil forfeiture without a conviction in Michigan. I haven't read the details yet, this just brought that to mind.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (t+qrx)

68 Why does that sound so... familiar... Flynn cough cough...
Posted by: Don Q at May 19, 2019 02:32 PM (NgKpN)

False comparison. The hit job on General Flynn isn't anywhere close to getting caught receiving a happy ending from a massage parlor hooker. & CBD's point about these prostitutes being somehow grateful they're in the States? I doubt giving handies to skeevy slobs figured into their dreams of their new lives in America.

I've worked with recovering drug addicts and alcoholics over the years, both men and women, some of whom have prostituted themselves when active in their disease. The guilt and shame of it was a terrible burden for many of them. People who frequent prostitutes are--in my view--essentially exploiting damaged people. It isn't harmless.

Posted by: troyriser at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (1JpTT)

69 I'm beginning to think our law enforcement and legal institutions aren't the infallible godheads we're told to worship.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (cXV7n)

70 Oops, massage parlor, not message parlor.

Jack Wong hate autocollect.

Posted by: Jack Wong's Massage Parlor and Korean BBQ at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (oFlMR)

71 the governor just signed one senate and two house bills earlier this month prohibiting civil forfeiture without a conviction in Michigan

The fact that with the bill of rights in existence, anyone has to even pass a law to do this is mindboggling to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (39g3+)

72 A prostitute? Is that the best a man can get?

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (ta49A)

73 >> Pulled pork?
>> Posted by: Nevergiveup

Guaranteed.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (o2vOl)

74 Those cops seem nice.

Posted by: Florida Man at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (EgshT)

75 Given the titles of this post and the one above, I am apprehensive about the title of the food thread yet to come.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM

Pulled pork?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:58 PM (Y+V3r)



Jerked Chicken.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (yQpMk)

76 Regulate prostitute's managers not the prostitutes. That would eliminate prostitute as victim.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (7cJE3)

77 This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

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Still makes me lol.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (RU4sa)

78 Well said, troyriser.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (aXucN)

79 So a bunch of John Does get embarrassed and Billionaire Bob Kraft has to figure out a safer way to pay to play.That's the outcome of this clusterfark.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (smQOA)

80 I've worked with recovering drug addicts and alcoholics over the years, both men and women, some of whom have prostituted themselves when active in their disease. The guilt and shame of it was a terrible burden for many of them. People who frequent prostitutes are--in my view--essentially exploiting damaged people. It isn't harmless.

I agree, the idea that "it was just a hand job" hey, would you like to be forced to sit in a room and jack off old men all day long for pennies?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (39g3+)

81 The fact that with the bill of rights in existence, anyone has to even pass a law to do this is mindboggling to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (39g3+)


Agree completely. Just as baffling is mentioning it to people who were completely unaware there was such a practice.

Posted by: hogmartin invites you to the Summer MIMoMe (link: nick) at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (t+qrx)

82 >>This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.

Serves Kraft right for all the cheating. Karma.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (/tuJf)

83 I agree, the idea that "it was just a hand job" hey, would you like to be forced to sit in a room and jack off old men all day long for pennies?


Meh. It's a living.

Posted by: rainmondo at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (yQpMk)

84 I am no ronger infected.

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (nxw5n)

85 hey, would you like to be forced to sit in a room and jack off old men all day long for pennies?

Is there a newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 19, 2019 03:06 PM (EgshT)

86 I'm beginning to think our law enforcement and legal institutions aren't the infallible godheads we're told to worship.

Posted by: weft cut-loop
________

No, they are. You're the problem. We're all the problem.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:06 PM (ta49A)

87 OT, but has the font changed for anyone else, or is it just me?

The daintier type is hard on these 29-year-old eyes.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (uDcBt)

88 Florida's Constitution has a "Sunshine" law.

All guvmint docs, videos, emails, texts, blah,blah are open for public consumption except in cases of on-going popo investigations and the like.

You can delay, but you better have a good reason. Much money has been paid out and people have gone to jail for not producing what is asked for in a timely manner even for mundane, everyday stuff.

The taxpayers of the State have every right to see what their police departments have spent the taxpayer's money on even if it's on a nasty old bastard getting his freak on.

But money talks and the law only applies to the great unwashed.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (Z+IKu)

89
I make ru happy ru make me wife! Fucky sucky long time!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (nxw5n)

90 If only GOPes could fight like the commies. If. Only.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:08 PM (smQOA)

91 OT, but has the font changed for anyone else, or is it just me?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas
________

It's the same on my end. But . . .

I had the font change awhile back -- turned out I had my screen on 105% or 110% zoom and didn't realize it for about four days.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:09 PM (ta49A)

92 The daintier type is hard on these 29-year-old eyes.

Scroll back on your mouse wheel

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:09 PM (39g3+)

93 So going after johns is the way to stop human trafficking? Seems like that process is about as sucessful as shutting down cartels by arresting street dealers.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (AwVzI)

94
I thought "rub and tug" was a food thread thing about tenderizing meat...


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (zBaqJ)

95 77 This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

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Still makes me lol.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 03:03 PM (RU4sa)



Evidently Putin still believes in redistribution of wealth.

Oh well, at least Kraft has a bunch of them. It would suck if that was his only Super Bowl ring.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (sdi6R)

96 People who frequent prostitutes are--in my view--essentially exploiting damaged people.


Meh. I don't like cop outs and victimization.

If you shoot heroin and then pimp yourself out to buy more, you are exploiting yourself.

If you are child or retarded person being sold into sex trafficking or manipulated by some pedo groomer into sex acts, you are being exploited.

Posted by: Jack Wong's Massage Parlor and Korean BBQ at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (oFlMR)

97 84 I am no ronger infected.
Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (nxw5n)


We go back to my room, bouncy bouncy?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (zBaqJ)

98
There is a reason Soro is targeting State DA races. He knows the DAs have unlimited funds and can sue Republicans to death.

Posted by: Kemp at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (u3dHb)



Houston is going crackers over wackjob mayor and county DA, a Soros winner.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (7cJE3)

99 Isn't Kraft also friends with Limbaugh? Another person the left has tried to destroy.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (kRPTw)

100 I really don't give a shit if dudes are getting happy endings at massage parlors. Talk about your victimless crime.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (NWiLs)

101

Me virgin, do boom boom butt stuff, you cum long time!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (nxw5n)

102 94
I thought "rub and tug" was a food thread thing about tenderizing meat...


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:10 PM (zBaqJ)

Making fresh pasta.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (NWiLs)

103 100 I really don't give a shit if dudes are getting happy endings at massage parlors. Talk about your victimless crime.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (NWiLs)

"Pfft!"

- - Laundry Service for massage parlors.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (zBaqJ)

104 >> 9 Do they use shape oil for their massage lube?

Shale oil suffers no significant viscosity breakdown regardless of the number of reciprocations per second.

...and yes: Justice shale prevail.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (o2vOl)

105 As the universe expands, your monitor will recede with an almost imperceptible red-shift. Almost.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (RuIsu)

106 Half the world's population is Oriental and somehow its the last racism everyone seems cool with

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (39g3+)

107 President Trump has indicated that he is considering pardons for several American military members accused or convicted of war crimes, including high-profile cases of murder, attempted murder and desecration of a corpse, according to two United States officials.
The officials said that the Trump administration had made expedited requests this week for paperwork needed to pardon the troops on or around Memorial Day.

G-D I fuckin hope so. G-D bless PDT and America

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (Y+V3r)

108

My hovercraft is full of eels!

Posted by: Miso Ho Ni at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (nxw5n)

109 103 100 I really don't give a shit if dudes are getting happy endings at massage parlors. Talk about your victimless crime.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:11 PM (NWiLs)

"Pfft!"

- - Laundry Service for massage parlors.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (zBaqJ)

Dude...they'd be killing each other to get the exclusive contract.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:13 PM (NWiLs)

110 If only GOPes could fight like the commies. If. Only.
Posted by: kallisto


They're too busy fighting the hobbits, deplorables, and raaaiiiissschisssts.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2019 03:13 PM (cXV7n)

111 To be fair, have we seen Bob's nails?

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 03:14 PM (RuIsu)

112 YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:15 PM (39g3+)

113 I definitely would not characterize prostitution as a victimless crime.

I definitely would throw the bullshit flag on that attorney and his office for getting a warrant based on lies and then using it to arrest and prosecute someone.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 03:16 PM (AwVzI)

114 YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:15 PM (39g3+)

Ya know what some peoples mouths look like?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:16 PM (Y+V3r)

115 Although I saw on the book thread that Texas told the Demonrat congress to pound sand over some bogus demand.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:16 PM (smQOA)

116 Been painting and reading up on Cossacks in the Napoleonic wars and Putin sounds like he is one.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (BbGew)

117 >> 112 You say its victimless [ crime ] but some poor
>> Vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Eighth amendment violation right there. Case closed.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (o2vOl)

118 >>YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk

Pretty sure she was doing more than just looking at it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (/tuJf)

119 That's the outcome of this clusterfark.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:04 PM (smQOA)



And the Ladies who Lunch being videoed - that's going to be some hell to pay.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:20 PM (7cJE3)

120 Pretty sure she was doing more than just looking at it.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:17 PM (/tuJf)

Saluting the flag? Maybe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:20 PM (Y+V3r)

121 Also like the way DJT admin is refusing every demand the dem hyenas throw at him. Trump is the first Republican 'Fuck you, pay me!' president.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:21 PM (smQOA)

122 118
>>YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk



Pretty sure she was doing more than just looking at it.

Posted by: JackStraw

Mandatory Safety Glasses for all Massage Therapists!

Posted by: PPE is your friend at May 19, 2019 03:21 PM (SVslj)

123 106 Half the world's population is Oriental and somehow its the last racism everyone seems cool with
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (39g3+)

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Racism against caucasians is rising quickly.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 19, 2019 03:22 PM (t5m5e)

124 91 OT, but has the font changed for anyone else, or is it just me?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas
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It's the same on my end. But . . .
I had the font change awhile back -- turned out I had my screen on 105% or 110% zoom and didn't realize it for about four days.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:09 PM (ta49A)


It changed when I refreshed the screen; I'm on a Kindle, so I don't know what's going on / don't know how to change the zoom on this screen.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 19, 2019 03:22 PM (uDcBt)

125 I never saw prostitution as a victimless crime, but then don't see drug use that way either.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (BbGew)

126 The taxpayers of the State have every right to see what their police departments have spent the taxpayer's money on even if it's on a nasty old bastard getting his freak on.

But money talks and the law only applies to the great unwashed.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 03:07 PM (Z+IKu)



Actually you can view it at the county court house. They have a little room you go into and put a dollar bill into a slot for each minute you wish to see,

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (1g7ch)

127 Actually you can view it at the county court house. They have a little room you go into and put a dollar bill into a slot for each minute you wish to see,
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (1g7ch)

They play it on a continuous loop. You pay money to get them to turn it off.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 03:24 PM (NWiLs)

128 Someone upthread commented on the word lox. Ace sez:

Lox now means smoked salmon, whereas lox probably just meant plain old salmon 8000 years ago.


I have actually given this some prior thought. Lox comes to us from Yiddish, which is largely a dialect of German. The word is Lachs in German and Lax in the filthy Scandi tongues.

They would all be eating the same fish from the North and Baltic seas. My guess is that it only reached the shtetls where Yiddish was spoken in its smoked form.

Lox means smoked salmon in English because that's how we got the word. It means regular salmon in the other Nordic languages.

Of course, our Salmon is related to Saumon (Fr.) and Salmone (It.), which means we've accepted an inferior Latinate word for tasty tasty fish of the northern seas.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:26 PM (fuK7c)

129 Re: human trafficking - sex trafficking including children

Look for that to break wide open after DECLAS and stage 2 of Horowitz IG report.
Regarding the IG report, a lot of things could not be mentioned in the first release due to ongoing investigations.

After those, Clinton Foundation investigation where the human trafficking will begin being revealed.
Also look for the name Ray Chandler ( she is a "photographer" ) to pop up if you haven't seen it already.
She makes Allison Mack of NXIVM fame look like a piker.
If you like digging you can find photos of her hanging with some really big names. Procurer for Epstein.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 03:27 PM (A3w0Q)

130 Actually you can view it at the county court house. They have a little room you go into and put a dollar bill into a slot for each minute you wish to see,


Ah, just like Times Square.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 03:27 PM (yQpMk)

131 The feminist line used to be that sex workers are single moms paying their bills and pre-med students working their way through college. Now we're more likely to hear that all sex workers are victims of human trafficking. Neither, of course, is true.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 03:28 PM (hjaPQ)

132 Much as it pains me to say it, 6 Super Bowl rings.


Five. Remember, Putin stole one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:28 PM (fuK7c)

133 There is a reason Soro is targeting State DA races. He knows the DAs have unlimited funds and can sue Republicans to death.

=====

I keep yammering on about the WI John Doe nastiness. Read about it and weep. Coming soon to a county or state near you.

Oddly enough, WI - Madison/Milwaukee - is hosting the democrat convention next year. Hold on to your Constitutions folks because it is gonna be a rough ride.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 03:29 PM (MIKMs)

134 When is the food thread? I'm hungry

( rhetorical question )

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:30 PM (BbGew)

135 125 I never saw prostitution as a victimless crime, but then don't see drug use that way either.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:23 PM (BbGew)


Same here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (YqDXo)

136 YOu say its victimless but some poor vietnamese girl had to look at Bob Kraft's junk
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 03:15 PM (39g3+)


What if it was a 56 year old Korean grandmother?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (1g7ch)

137 I saw Old Mans Junk open for Third Eye Blind at the Whiskey a Go Go in '91

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (flINI)

138 >>Five. Remember, Putin stole one.

Since we are being picky, he received 6 rings. He may have shoved a couple of them in some manicurists hoohah and now have 2 for all I know.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:33 PM (/tuJf)

139 Sitting out on my partially clean deck, power washed 1/3 of it but the hardest part. Warm but nice outside, to nice to be in.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:34 PM (BbGew)

140 "Farmhouse" frat boy with calf.

/ never pass out at the Farmhouse.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:34 PM (1g7ch)

141 >>If you like digging you can find photos of her hanging with some really big names. Procurer for Epstein.


NXIVM is currently being prosecuted for human trafficking; specifically, three Mexican teens held a sex slaves by Raniere (and Mack?). Given NXIVM's presence in Mexico, and Carlos Salinas' son's involvement in the cult, it will be interesting to see the extent of their human trafficking (doubt it's just the once w/the 3 girls). Seem to recall reading that when NXIVM was done with sex slaves they handed them off to Jeffrey Epstein? No idea if that was speculation or if it's been confirmed.

The close proximity of both NXIVM and Epstein to Democrat biggies in NY, including the Clintons, would explain why both of these scandals have been mostly ignored by the MSM.

Look at how much more coverage Kraft got for a happy ending vs. a guy who owns an island with underage sex slaves, that by the way, was frequented by a former POTUS and his wife, a Harvard law professor, a UK prince, and so many more international VIPs.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (W+vEI)

142 131 The feminist line used to be that sex workers are single moms paying their bills and pre-med students working their way through college. Now we're more likely to hear that all sex workers are victims of human trafficking. Neither, of course, is true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 03:28 PM (hjaPQ)


They also used to say that prostitutes were poor innocents who were forced into prostitution and exploited by those nasty men. Of course, in another perspective, prostitutes were women who preferred prostitution to taking a legitimate job, and who exploited the natural needs of men to make easy money.

The truth, of course, is a linear combination of the two perspectives, with the coefficients varying from case to case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (YqDXo)

143 Help please.
I just learned (thru an old thread) that we can support Ace by making amazon purchases thru this site. Almost every week i buy some books based on the horde's recommendations and now feel bad that I had no idea these could benefit Ace. How does this work; is there a link to click?

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (XROPS)

144 BTW, it's not just Kraft. Brady loves him some Trump too.

During the campaign a locker room reporter squeed about why do you support Trump? Brady, the shrewd political analyst, said "because he's my friend".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:35 PM (fuK7c)

145 It changed when I refreshed the screen; I'm on a Kindle, so I don't know
what's going on / don't know how to change the zoom on this screen.

Which Kindle? The Fire with the Silk browser?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (7s3Gx)

146 How does this work; is there a link to click?


Top right on the home page. AoSHQ Amazon page.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (fuK7c)

147 139
Warm but nice outside, to nice to be in.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:34 PM (BbGew)


Nah, it's too hot. I'm inside with the air conditioner on.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (sdi6R)

148 I read Cossacks were very much known thieves, but towards the end of the wars the Czar ordered them to stop it, so they would take items they wanted and basically tell the owners it was a gift they were taking, or change clothes taking clean ones and leaving their dirty ones behind.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (BbGew)

149 I know all about right and wrong, but anyone who has been winged by what they call the American justice system knows legal and illegal is up for sale.

It's used as a cudgel on the less-connected.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (Jj+59)

150 I found the link- I think I have to be on the home page and not a comment page? I'll give it a try.

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 03:39 PM (XROPS)

151 What if it was a 56 year old Korean grandmother?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:31 PM (1g7ch)



Can she cook American style food?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:39 PM (7cJE3)

152 Is Ace gonna do a thing on Batwoman? He has to do a thing on Batwoman.

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (uEbPt)

153 Somewhere in radio talk bander a week or two ago the statistic came up of 1 million prostitutes in the country, sounds high but could also count one timers so not sure to believe it or not.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (BbGew)

154 121 Also like the way DJT admin is refusing every demand the dem hyenas throw at him. Trump is the first Republican 'Fuck you, pay me!' president.
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 03:21 PM (smQOA)


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Annnnd there's another great candidate for Trump's 2020 campaign slogan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (4knXT)

155 There's a thing on Batwoman?

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (UdKB7)

156 I should go get a scotch

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (BbGew)

157 On the money Lizzy.

And I've seen photos of Ray Chandler hanging out with those you mentioned in your last paragraph as well as others.
Also photos she took of kids who she refers to as models.
The looks on those kids faces are heart wrenching.

Either the public will be incredibly outraged when all this sees the light of day, or this world is totally and completely lost.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 03:41 PM (A3w0Q)

158 The best part of this is Kraft did this the morning of the AFC Championship in KC. It's the ultimate power move and soon to become part of my Patriots pregame.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 19, 2019 03:42 PM (zMaZS)

159 153 Somewhere in radio talk bander a week or two ago the statistic came up of 1 million prostitutes in the country, sounds high but could also count one timers so not sure to believe it or not.
Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (BbGew)


71.37% of all statistics are made up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 03:42 PM (YqDXo)

160 Home from la finca. I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 03:42 PM (MVjcR)

161 Can she cook American style food?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:39 PM (7cJE3)


As long as the first two ingredients are red pepper and garlic.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:43 PM (1g7ch)

162 I never saw prostitution as a victimless crime, but then don't see drug use that way either.


I won't argue in favor of prostitution, but I will say it's generally a self-inflicted wound.

The reason you feel bad after selling yourself is because you knew it was wrong all along and did it anyway.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 19, 2019 03:43 PM (oFlMR)

163 As long as the first two ingredients are red pepper and garlic.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 03:43 PM (1g7ch)


That's good enough for me.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:44 PM (7cJE3)

164 Somewhere in radio talk bander a week or two ago the statistic came up of 1 million prostitutes in the country, sounds high but could also count one timers so not sure to believe it or not.



Does that include Congress and the press corps?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (oVJmc)

165 "I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting."

Ooh that sounds dirty.

Posted by: guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (UdKB7)

166 "I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting."

Ooh that sounds dirty.
Posted by: guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (UdKB7)


It is only dirty if you are doing it right.

Posted by: Bender at May 19, 2019 03:46 PM (1g7ch)

167 Sounds like putting a diaper on baby Bubba.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 03:47 PM (7cJE3)

168
g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson Come to the MoMe In June link in nick at May 19, 2019 03:47 PM (kHy01)

169 Not that it much matters, but Robert Kraft still has six super bowl rings.

Putin took one, so Kraft had another made for himself.

Posted by: grandvezir at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (eMmgj)

170 I still remember well hydraulic fluid showers from A-10's gun systems and that was 40 years ago.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (BbGew)

171 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (1UZdv)

172 165 "I had a hydraulic quick connect fitting come loose on the tractor and spray hydraulic fluid everywhere which was exciting."

Ooh that sounds dirty.
Posted by: guy who thinks everything sounds dirty at May 19, 2019 03:45 PM (UdKB7)
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More of a pain in the wallet. I'm guessing I lost a couple of gallons of hydraulic fluid which the grass isn't going to like.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (MVjcR)

173 128 Someone upthread commented on the word lox. Ace sez:

Lox now means smoked salmon, whereas lox probably just meant plain old salmon 8000 years ago.


I have actually given this some prior thought. Lox comes to us from Yiddish, which is largely a dialect of German. The word is Lachs in German and Lax in the filthy Scandi tongues.

They would all be eating the same fish from the North and Baltic seas. My guess is that it only reached the shtetls where Yiddish was spoken in its smoked form.

Lox means smoked salmon in English because that's how we got the word. It means regular salmon in the other Nordic languages.

Of course, our Salmon is related to Saumon (Fr.) and Salmone (It.), which means we've accepted an inferior Latinate word for tasty tasty fish of the northern seas.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 03:26 PM (fuK7c)

Even though I grew up in NYC and environs, my first experience of lox was as LOX: Liquid Oxygen.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2019 03:50 PM (MwFQu)

174 What will it take to convince people that the police are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever to be trusted under any circumstances?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 03:50 PM (Xk5BK)

175 Kraft is an honorary Florida Man. 77 years old, gets a tug tug at 430 pm and again the next morning as soon as the joint opens.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:50 PM (Jj+59)

176 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (1UZdv)

Just like building a football roster, ya need a few bargain basement players to fill oUt the roster

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (Y+V3r)

177 My guess is that it only reached the shtetls where Yiddish was spoken in its smoked form.
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How do you smoke a language?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (IFKOp)

178 Romney went on Jake Tapper's CNN show to say that Trump disgraced the office, and while close, it wasn't impeachable.

Allrighty then.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (1UZdv)

179 More of a pain in the wallet

JD brand is Hy-Gard I think, and yes it is expensive.

Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (dC1N1)

180 And my US Rep is Alcee Hastings. He's a legit Florida Man.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (Jj+59)

181
179 More of a pain in the wallet

JD brand is Hy-Gard I think, and yes it is expensive.
Posted by: Ronster at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (dC1N1)
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Yep. That's it. About $25/gal.

Posted by: Weasel at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (MVjcR)

182 Romney went on Jake Tapper's CNN show to say that Trump disgraced the office, and while close, it wasn't impeachable.

Allrighty then.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (1UZdv)

Romney is worse than the curse we thought he would be.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (Y+V3r)

183 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 03:48 PM (1UZdv)


Cheap whores don't sue for palimony.


There's plenty of stories about million/billionaires having to pay off their bimbos because they pretended to have a relationship.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (oVJmc)

184 Kraft is 77
The 2 Chinese women were averaging g 50 years old

Posted by: Kurt at May 19, 2019 03:53 PM (SR7dn)

185 Yes, I get that EVERYONE must be referred to as "(fill in the blank) worker" because remember, hyper-evil rich people do not ever work. But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 03:53 PM (Xk5BK)

186 donsurber.blogspot.com divide-country-promise unity
http://tinyurl.com/yxhftc6q

I hope it's Creepy Uncle Joe and President Trump rips into him.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:54 PM (BbGew)

187 152 Is Ace gonna do a thing on Batwoman? He has to do a thing on Batwoman.

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 03:40 PM (uEbPt)


I saw a picture of the new soyboy Batman here the other day. Does this mean that the new Batwoman will be a bull dyke?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

188

Sex workers work in a workers paradise.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 03:54 PM (aKsyK)

189 Romney is worse than the curse we thought he would be.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 03:52 PM (Y+V3r)

Yes and that was a pretty high bar

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 19, 2019 03:55 PM (P4Pk9)

190 But WTF is a "sex worker"?
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Someone who is condemned to work in the jism mines of Ganymede, I think.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 19, 2019 03:55 PM (IFKOp)

191 I need a refill but better not get one.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:55 PM (BbGew)

192 Wikileaks is claiming that Ecuador is getting ready to turn over to the US all documents, computers, etc. that Assange left at the Ecuadorian embassy.

That would be nice.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (/tuJf)

193 I found a can of Lox with a date code: MMMLXXI B.C. I get free out of date bagels, so I'm good to go.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (RuIsu)

194 Current Dim media fav Petey Butt-gig says that we need to eliminate American founder Thomas Jefferson's name from all buildings and other memorials, because Jefferson owned slaves and may even have had sex with one of his slaves.

Hopefully somebody will ask Butt-gig if that means he also supports outlawing Islam in the U.S.

After all, Islam's founder was a slave-owning, slave-trading, war-mongering, blatantly sexist and misogynistic, polygamous, child-marrying pedophile. If we can't tolerate buildings that honor slave-owner/slave-diddler Jefferson, then we surely also can't tolerate buildings that honor the even more egregiously offensive slave-owner/kiddie-diddler Mohammad.

When is Butt-gig going to call for all mosques in the U.S. to be burned down or re-purposed, and the name Mohammad forever stricken from polite discourse?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (k4dH2)

195 I remember a few years back watching a couple of real life LEO busting a rub and tug in California on some cable channel.

Their entire focus was on finding the boss lady's stash of cash. They had no interest in arrests or enforcing any statue.

Once they got the cash they were done.

Assets forfeiture was game.

In my mind they were not Law Enforcement Officers but tucking criminals.

Posted by: Parker Lonbaugh at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (FwC0V)

196 "Romney went on Jake Tapper's CNN show to say that Trump disgraced the office"

Can't someone come up with a video of Cunk getting his weenie wacked by a furry?

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (UdKB7)

197 17 If these a-holes really want to stop sex trafficking, then why don't they start supporting serious fixes to our immigration laws instead of supporting lawless "sanctuary" cities and states?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 19, 2019 02:44 PM (k4dH2)

Because, meanie, that is cruel and inhumane. The United States commits crimes against humanity whenever they do something as sadistic and heinous as having a CBP official demand your passport at a port of entry.

(Seriously, I wonder if these open border types throw a tantrum befitting a 3 year old when re-entering the United States at a port of entry, telling the CBP meanie that he has no right to see his/her passport.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (Xk5BK)

198 Better yet let it be Creepy Uncle Joe then have AGBarr open the Chinese collusion investigation next year.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:57 PM (BbGew)

199 145 It changed when I refreshed the screen; I'm on a Kindle, so I don't know
what's going on / don't know how to change the zoom on this screen.
Which Kindle? The Fire with the Silk browser?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 03:37 PM (7s3Gx)


Yes - the Fire HD10

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at May 19, 2019 03:58 PM (uDcBt)

200 Aronberg is an interesting guy. He introduced a bill making video voyeurism a crime, refused to prosecute Lewandowski for battery, and was married once to a Dolphins cheerleader for about 15 months.

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 03:58 PM (Jj+59)

201 I found a can of Lox with a date code: MMMLXXI B.C. I get free out of date bagels, so I'm good to go.

Posted by: Burger Chef
________

That can be true. If it had a date code of 3071 B.C., then it would also have to have a month and a date, too.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:59 PM (ta49A)

202 I know with touch screens shit can change in a flash

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 03:59 PM (BbGew)

203 And now I see others had the same oxidizing thought.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2019 04:00 PM (MwFQu)

204 New Batwoman on The CW is yes a bulldyke with some 12 year oldish lipstick features. SJW's claim it is faithful to the comic by going lez.

That's not even a quarter of the hot garbage.

She has stupid lines like:

Black Alfred: "But that suit is perfection."
Batdyke: "That suit WILL be perfection... when it fits a woman"

And then after breaking into his batcave, stealing his identity and fighting some crime she says:

"They think I'm him. Well I'm not about to let a man take credit for what a woman did."

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 04:00 PM (uEbPt)

205 I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.


It may be that he was going for a real massage.

A really good massage with a little manual release at the end is a whole different ballpark from a perfunctory rub and handjob.

Or so I'm told.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (fuK7c)

206 Its 3071 AD, your good, that stuff is better than Twinkies to survive

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (BbGew)

207 Wonder if Assange (or his documents) can prove that it wasn't the Russians that hacked the DNC/Podesta.

Did the Mueller report add anything to prove it was the Russians who did, other than rely on the opinion of the DNC's outside consultant.

Mueller's indicting 17 Russians for buying $500K in Facebook ads was a smoke screen.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (1UZdv)

208 Probably gonna go see this: https://tinyurl.com/y47fdk59

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (AwVzI)

209 >>But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Heh, good question.
*Think* it refers to anyone who performs sex as an occupation, so it includes porno actresses, strippers, massage parlor, hookers all the way up to escorts. Think it may have become the term when feminist embraced the plight, and sought to empower and legitimize, women in those professions.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (W+vEI)

210 Hopefully somebody will ask Butt-gig if that means he also supports outlawing Islam in the U.S.

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Heh. Charming.

Posted by: The MSM, Now with 28% More Truthy Goodness at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (4knXT)

211 Cunk needs to be shut down. Maybe we can get some mileage out of that dog on the roof thing. There must be something that Mittens has done that will render him to shameful oblivion.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (UdKB7)

212 FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (BbGew)

213 How do you smoke a language?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (IFKOp)

Give it time. You see it happening to English. Stupid terms like "sex worker"...I just happened across "Law Enforcement Officer" (when "cop" or "police" would do)...and of course, how every single last business or profession or professional HAS to be referred to as "(fill in the blank) provider".

(I about lost my mind when I was watching TWC and one of the weather hotties suggested that one contact their "insurance provider". Um...is that like an "insurer"? Or is that too hard to say?)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (Xk5BK)

214

Want to Dismantle Capitalism? Abolish the Family

Feminist theorist Sophie Lewis's new book looks at how rethinking pregnancy and the idea of family as forms of labor is central to emancipatory politics.
By Rosemarie Ho

https://t.co/rZxUfN92KU

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (aKsyK)

215 This happened before his team's 6th title -- and remember, he showed one of his rings to Vladimir Putin and Putin kept it.
Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 03:01 PM (ta49A)

Kleptocrats gotta klepto!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (e1mEI)

216 204 New Batwoman on The CW is yes a bulldyke with some 12 year oldish lipstick features.
Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 04:00 PM (uEbPt)


And here I thought I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm, like satire, can't keep up with reality today.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (sdi6R)

217 Heh, good question.
*Think* it refers to anyone who performs sex as an occupation, so it includes porno actresses, strippers, massage parlor, hookers all the way up to escorts. Think it may have become the term when feminist embraced the plight, and sought to empower and legitimize, women in those professions.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 04:01 PM (W+vEI)


SF used to have (may still have, for all I know) a prostitutes' union called Coyote that was trying to mainstream prostitution and such. I met the head (?) of the union at a garden party thrown by my liberal girlfriend of the time, a social worker who was connected to a lot of liberal crap in SF.

The amazing thing is that we got on well, politics notwithstanding.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (YqDXo)

218 And here I thought I was being sarcastic. Sarcasm, like satire, can't keep up with reality today.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 04:04 PM (sdi6R)

Spoiler Alert: We are now living in a satire.

Posted by: ... at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (uEbPt)

219 (I about lost my mind when I was watching TWC and one of the weather hotties suggested that one contact their "insurance provider". Um...is that like an "insurer"? Or is that too hard to say?)


The sign at the entrance to my Stop n Shop says "if any consumer commodity scans at an incorrect price..." they'll make it up to you.

(A) What's wrong with "item"? (2) Stop and Shop does not sell commodities. A commodity is a unit of undifferentiated product like North Sea Crude or Nebraska Red Wheat. They sell branded, differentiated goods.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 04:06 PM (fuK7c)

220 you take too long, you go now.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (r/xAU)

221 It was just misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution charges for the men, and felony charges of making money from prostitution for the women.
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I do wonder why the charge is bigger for the prostitute ?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (r/xAU)

222 Want to Dismantle Capitalism? Abolish the Family

Feminist theorist Sophie Lewis's new book looks at how rethinking pregnancy and the idea of family as forms of labor is central to emancipatory politics.
By Rosemarie Ho

https://t.co/rZxUfN92KU
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 04:02 PM (aKsyK)


This stupid broad just figured that out? It's been an article of faith among Communists for generations now. Did she finally come across a comic book that explained Marxist doctrine to her?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

223 205
I'm surprised billionaire Kraft wasn't ordering top top shelf, not a cut rate hand job.





It may be that he was going for a real massage.



A really good massage with a little manual release at the end is a whole different ballpark from a perfunctory rub and handjob.



Or so I'm told.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

Releasing the fifth chakra is the key!

Posted by: Al Gore at May 19, 2019 04:09 PM (SVslj)

224 or was it the 2nd Chakra....just a touch of AlGoremer's....

Posted by: Al Gore at May 19, 2019 04:10 PM (SVslj)

225 A really good massage with a little manual release at the end is a whole different ballpark from a perfunctory rub and handjob.
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only that it might be a semi decent pretext with added icing.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (r/xAU)

226 whew lizzy is here. so not totally bad ju ju.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (r/xAU)

227 Return business speaks well for quality.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 04:15 PM (Gqta/)

228 I do wonder why the charge is bigger for the prostitute ?
Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (r/xAU)


Same reason drug dealers get more serious charges than drug users.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:17 PM (YqDXo)

229 Jay, but the original theme were these women were Unwillingly Being trafficked, seems rather cruel in that context ..

?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (r/xAU)

230 Yes - the Fire HD10..
Ok, if it's like mine, press that set of horizontal lines in the upper left corner. A large tab should slide out. Select "settings", then "accessibility", then "text scaling"
That's the only way I know of to make changes to the font size in the Silk browser.
If that doesn't hack it, try restarting the Kindle.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:19 PM (7s3Gx)

231 also also the womens 'work' i'm sure she's paying a cut , or a set charge back to the house pimp.

what did that guy get?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:20 PM (r/xAU)

232 and without the sex drug.

if the women were being harmed I could see it, but the story was presented as the Women were being harmed.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:22 PM (r/xAU)

233 anyway besides icky diseases , who's being harmed if the women aren't being coerced?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (r/xAU)

234 233 anyway besides icky diseases , who's being harmed if the women aren't being coerced?
Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (r/xAU)


Society.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 04:23 PM (YqDXo)

235 well sure, but i'm specifically speaking of the charges.

why it is lopsided.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:24 PM (r/xAU)

236 2nd Chakras are being released, which is a Public Health Service!

Posted by: Al Gore at May 19, 2019 04:24 PM (SVslj)

237 ok, And I was speaking of the harm.

sorry. mind faint

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:25 PM (r/xAU)

238 but I don't believe society isn't necessarily being harmed, if its an inside shop not walkers showing their wares.

I think some women like the money and are not pure as the driven snow , or, looking for a way to pay for college.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:26 PM (r/xAU)

239 I think most of us women make money the hard way, by doing it straight. still, other than hurting their own moral compass?

and actual trafficking of course, but this doesn't see to be the case thank g-d.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:29 PM (r/xAU)

240 Speaking of prostitutes, Milt Rombley.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 19, 2019 04:31 PM (hjaPQ)

241 Meade, and cannibalizing business's but yeah.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:32 PM (r/xAU)

242 anyway they are all shitty people involved so it's sorry for me to care, I only wonder why charged are stiffer for the one Actually doing the work, while the other one is .. well..

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (r/xAU)

243 Stupid
Netscape
browser

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (7s3Gx)

244 ican't seem to type again. guess ill go back to work.

peace.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:34 PM (r/xAU)

245 Quantum
Bollocks

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:35 PM (7s3Gx)

246 Test

line

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (7s3Gx)

247 Aha!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 19, 2019 04:36 PM (7s3Gx)

248

SPEEDWAY, Ind. (WTHR) - Some of the drivers' significant others wore T-shirts that said, "Not YOUR Body, Not YOUR Choice" on qualifying day for the Indianapolis 500.

Ashley Welch and Hailey McDermott, the fiancees of Team Penske drivers Josef Newgarden and Simon Pagenaud, were both wearing the gray shirts with bold white lettering on pit lane Saturday. Welch also posted a picture of herself wearing the shirt on social media.

Indiana is among a handful of states moving to restrict abortions in hopes the U.S. Supreme Court will overturn its 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade.

A state law signed by the governor last month would ban a second-trimester procedure. Federal courts have blocked similar laws in other states.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 04:45 PM (aKsyK)

249 They went fishing for perch in a rowboat and hooked an orca. I hope Kraft pounds everyone involved for the rest of his days as an interesting hobby.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (25Dt7)

250 I am sure the fans of the teams playing the patriots will have a different view with their signs.

Posted by: raimondo at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (zVQ7x)

251 And then attend some glitzy event with the spa lady as his date

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 04:46 PM (25Dt7)

252 248 this will get the democrats out to vote in 2020 as gay marriage and trans gender bathrooms did for the republicans in 2016.

Posted by: raimondo at May 19, 2019 04:48 PM (zVQ7x)

253 And Raimondo is in for a another serenade on his rectal kazoo.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 04:49 PM (oVJmc)

254 if the women were being harmed I could see it, but the story was presented as the Women were being harmed.
Posted by: willow at May 19, 2019 04:22 PM (r/xAU)


This is a pet peeve of mine. The FBI busted a dozen massage parlors where I live, with lurid accusations about women from the far east who were misled into believing they'd be doing garment work and then forced into prostitution once they arrived. Weeping "victims" were paraded for the cameras, virgins who were kidnapped from the streets and broken by pimps from central casting to be sex slaves in the lucrative US market.

You had to follow the story for a few months, but in the end it was clear the vast majority were Korean and Chinese hookers who'd gone into debt to get smuggled into the US because they thought the money would be better here than in the home country. They "couldn't" go to the cops because that would mean deportation, which... if you were forced into sex slavery in a foreign country, would deportation back to your family really be something you'd see as a bad outcome?

It all sounds a lot more like "illegal immigration" to me than "human trafficking". They knew the score before they took the deal, knew they were entering the country illegally, knew what they were doing here would be illegal.

It's like women have no longer have agency. Any time they do something bad it's the fault of bad men, probably Rape Culture and Toxic Masculinity. And not, you know, greed.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 19, 2019 04:51 PM (h2Bdk)

255 But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Heh, good question.
*Think* it refers to anyone who performs sex as an occupation, so it includes porno actresses, strippers, massage parlor, hookers all the way up to escorts. Think it may have become the term when feminist embraced the plight, and sought to empower and legitimize, women in those professions.
Posted by: Lizzy

We should include divorce lawyers

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2019 04:52 PM (25Dt7)

256 I don't agree with much here that CBD said.

For starters, if the women wanted to STAY in the U.S., their best shot would be working WITH the state, in hopes of scoring an S Visa that govt witnesses sometimes get (if the govt needs them & asks for one).

Otoh, if they're foreign nationals & in a hurry to get deportrted? The bullet train is a prostitution conviction.

Posted by: mnw at May 19, 2019 05:05 PM (Cssks)

257 This case looked doomed from the very beginning, given the false prosecution statements to get the very unusual warrant, the fake traffic stop designed to capture Krafts identity, the failure to account for Kraft not paying extra for the tug (he got it for the rub price, implying no charge sex acts) and, of course, the hamhanded blackmail attempts from the cops and prosecutors, who tried to extort a quick guilty plea in return for not releasing the tapes.

Somebody should go to jail here, for sure. The police and the prosecutor.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Live! And in color! at May 19, 2019 05:08 PM (Z216Q)

258
Another fake case of deflated balls.

Posted by: Mathew Slater at May 19, 2019 05:37 PM (kk8TL)

259 So this case went from 'hard to prove' to 'petering out'?

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at May 19, 2019 05:37 PM (4LbHt)

260 >> 255 But WTF is a "sex worker"?

Do you need a demonstration?

Posted by: Shep! at May 19, 2019 05:44 PM (o2vOl)

Shale Oil: Perpetual Priapism Or A Flash In The Pan?

I won't bore you with a discussion of the good things about shale oil production, other than to point out the magnificent case of schadenfreude most of us have watching the world oil markets being turned on their heads, the United States of America becoming the number one oil producer, and the economic dislocation of lower oil prices falling disproportionately on countries that deserve it (Russia, Venezuela, etc.). But the critics need to be noticed, not for any particular insight or wisdom in their analysis, but rather for their conspicuous lack of historical perspective and a startling lack of economic knowledge.

Is the Shale Revolution Here to Stay?

The critics’ argument is threefold. First, they claim that the shale boom depended on huge amounts of debt that was doled out without serious consideration for whether shale producers would be able to pay it back. Second, critics are worried that there’s less shale oil available than originally believed, reflected in shale wells’ depletion rates. Third, they see limited room for growth in the profitability of shale production as shale’s break-even price has stagnated. Combine these factors, the critics say, and you get an industry that will not endure. This Deep Dive will take a closer look at these criticisms and explore whether, in fact, U.S. shale really is an economically sustainable industry.
The first argument is idiotic. Why do the debts of an industry have any bearing on the future viability of that industry. If my shale oil company borrowed money to run the business or grow it or whatever, and it failed, the underlying business is still there, to be liquidated by creditors, presumably by being sold to the next guy who thinks that shale oil is viable. That's sort of how free markets work. There is no guarantee of success, which is why that original money was lent in exchange for interest or a share of the company or both. We need to look no further than the example of the airline industry to refute this ridiculous premise.

The second argument is similarly nonsensical. "Peak Oil" has been refuted so often and for so many years that it has become a punch line.

The third argument is simply odd. A stagnating break-even price for shale oil is a snapshot in time, nothing more. It is not immutable, and judging by the improvements in technology in other parts of the oil industry, one can assume future improvements in shale oil extraction technology. But even if the stagnation were permanent, the well-head price using existing technology has had tremendous effects on oil markets, so there is no reason to assume that growth in profitability is necessary for the continued success of the industry.

Read the article, it is worthwhile and evenhanded. And there is plenty of information that supports an optimistic view of shale oil as an ongoing industry.

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:16 PM (BbGew)

2 Shale saved the whale.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 12:18 PM (ykq7q)

3 I don't think there would be so much demand to ban it in pursuit of ineffective, pointless methods of wasting energy if it wasn't a viable long term solution that will just become more efficient and refined over time.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:18 PM (lPsvG)

4 Horde dutifully summoned.
There are scientists who think oil is still ( why wouldn't it be?) being made by the earth.
Now for the artical

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:18 PM (BbGew)

5 First, they claim that the shale boom depended on huge amounts of debt that was doled out without serious consideration for whether shale producers would be able to pay it back.

First, they claim that the GOVERNMENT boom depended on huge amounts of debt that was doled out without serious consideration for whether the GOVERNMENT would be able to pay it back.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 12:21 PM (JFO2v)

6 See also: nuclear

Some Moron comically pointed out that more people in the US have been killed installing and maintaining solar panels than have died from nuclear plants.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:22 PM (lPsvG)

7 Austrian-born Jewish physicist Tom Gold is one of the smartest guys of the 20th Century, and was an early proponent of abiogenic production of oil deep in the Earth.

Either that or all the dinosaurs got together in one place to die.

Take your pick

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 12:24 PM (1UZdv)

8 Great, now I'm down to one free article left.
I suppose there are still hits and misses with fracking as with conventional drilling.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:26 PM (BbGew)

9 I remember the elites telling us proles that the oil would run out in 1978 or some such and we would be having horses pull our cars around like in a Twlight Zone episode on the way to watch our new national past time, soccer.

Like Waylan Jennings sang.......Wrong.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 12:27 PM (Z+IKu)

10 First, they claim that the shale boom depended on huge amounts of debt that was doled out without serious consideration for whether shale producers would be able to pay it back.

Kinda like ... the US in general, no?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:28 PM (if8r4)

11 Ate these same people worried about debt being piled up worried the same about solar power?

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:28 PM (BbGew)

12 First, they claim that the shale boom depended on huge amounts of debt that was doled out without serious consideration for whether shale producers would be able to pay it back.

Leave Solyndra, Tesla, etc. out of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:29 PM (if8r4)

13 This is just another anti-oil (progress) rant. It totally leaves out the fact that money (without government intervention) will flow to some combination of return and safety of capital. Buying land or renting the land (lease) allows the landholder to exchange illiquid capital for more liquid capital. Landholders can even put limitations on their lease so that lessees must not just lock up the land but begin production for producers to innovate of leave.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 12:29 PM (JFO2v)

14 Guy I know has acreage in Lehigh Valley, turned out to be part of a shale field. He lucked out, bigly.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 12:30 PM (80Uh3)

15 Did you see the presser of President Trump at the opening of the $10 Billion LNG plant in LA?

He attempted to refer/pronounce it as the Calcasieu plant but couldn't pronounce the word. "Hey, y'all have been saying it all your lives, I just
saw it twenty minutes ago. I'll call it the I-10 plant, OK?"

Just like the guy who wore a blue suit to the Iowa State Fair. Bingo

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 12:30 PM (7cJE3)

16
I remember the elites telling us proles that the oil would run out in 1978 or some such and we would be having horses pull our cars around like in a Twlight Zone episode

Bernie is "The Old Man In the Cave"

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734669

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:32 PM (aKsyK)

17 Landholders can even put limitations on their lease so that lessees must not just lock up the land but begin production for producers to innovate of leave.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 12:29 PM (JFO2v)

Hmmm....sounds like lawyers will be involved....nothing happens w/out lawyers.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 12:33 PM (ykq7q)

18 Hey, y'all have been saying it all your lives, I just
saw it twenty minutes ago. I'll call it the I-10 plant, OK?"

-

That's so refreshing compared to the" Chee-lay" and "Nee-cah-rrrrrrrr-auguah" the smartest black man in the world always tried to do.

Strangely, he never said Deutschland or Nippon.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:34 PM (lPsvG)

19 Drive by comment because I am on vacation, spending some of the .money earned from shale freaking.

The frak process changed completely and is still in the refining / improving phase. Cost of fraking is still coming down due to improvements in materials and equipment design.

Posted by: tbodie at May 19, 2019 12:35 PM (IrbWq)

20 Well it doesn't matter what the oil/power/climate/ozone/pollution crisis is, if we just agree to a 30% increase in taxes and give it to the Dems it will all be better.

Or is it a 40% increase?

Anyway it doesn't matter as we will all enjoy utopia.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:35 PM (0tfLf)

21 You know, it's almost like the difference between thinking you're smart and knowing you're smart.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:35 PM (lPsvG)

22 I had a decent amount invested in energy companies from a few years ago. On one hand, energy still looks like an undervalued part of the stock market, but it just never seems to want to fully recover.

I think oil prices have a ceiling thanks to all the advances we've made in oil extraction. Good for the American consumer, bad for energy investors.

I also think this is the last generation where internal combustion engines will make up a majority of new cars. I can see oil being like coal is today. Still being extracted and used, but not like it was years ago.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 12:35 PM (UfkIY)

23 The Leftist fantasy is any field is a Zero-sum Pie they control to see who gets a slice from.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:35 PM (NpoKk)

24 Pock-e-stahn

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 12:37 PM (80Uh3)

25 We shale overcome.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 12:37 PM (o2vOl)

26 Pockey Stahn was always so f*cking awful to hear.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:38 PM (lPsvG)

27 We shale gather at the river....

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:38 PM (0tfLf)

28
"We will be left with a world that is dramatically shaped by climate change, because it will mean huge new plantations of solar panel plants. It will mean plantations of carbon-capture technology which suck carbon out of the atmosphere. It will mean an entirely new infrastructure. It will mean new kinds of airplanes, new kinds of public transportation. It will mean a new approach to diet and agriculture."

https://tinyurl.com/y49n7k9y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

29 The Lord is My Shepherd, I Shale Not Want.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (o2vOl)

30 I think oil prices have a ceiling thanks to all the advances we've made in oil extraction. Good for the American consumer, bad for energy investors.


There's never a ceiling. There's never a bottom.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (7cJE3)

31 They're worried about the debts run up by the shale industry? These are the very same people who cheered the outrageous some of taxpayer money flushed down the toilet during the Obummer era. Solyndra, anyone? At least the shale people stand a very good chance of recouping their money. And it is *their* money, not tax dollars stolen from us to shower on Bambi's friends.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (ebZss)

32 You Shale Know Them By Their Fruits.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 12:40 PM (o2vOl)

33 Sums not some. Damn auto cucumber.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 19, 2019 12:40 PM (ebZss)

34 panel plants. It will mean plantations of carbon-capture technology which suck carbon out of the atmosphere. It will mean an entirely new infrastructure...

-

Say, you know what can't be used to produce solar panels, carbon capture technology, and entirely new infrastructure?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:41 PM (lPsvG)

35 This is just another anti-oil (progress) rant. It totally leaves out the fact that money (without government intervention) will flow to some combination of return and safety of capital.

Exactly. It's of a piece with objecting to the Keystone Pipeline.

Now as for efforts to reduce American petroleum output, let me ask the obvious question: cui bono?

Yeah, the people Trump colludes with are at the top of the list, and they have longstanding ties to the Democrat Party and other leftist organizations. Remember the CND crap in Europe? All bought and paid for by the KGB, which some participants now sheepishly admit.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:42 PM (if8r4)

36 Nah. As a matter of fact, Eagle production is constrained by transportation. Output has been maxed for several years now...
FWIW, transportation has been the biggest single hindrance to US production over the past half decade or longer. Ms mouse has worked w/pipeline and transport companies for years and can give anyone an earful on this...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 12:42 PM (6qErC)

37 Plantations? Isn't that a racist triggering word?

And how do they square saving Gaia when these thousands of hectares of solar panels destroy habitat?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:43 PM (NpoKk)

38 It's comical that you can search for

how many solar panels does it take to produce a single solar panel

and there are no results.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 12:43 PM (EOEiY)

39 Shale I compare thee to a summer's day?

Posted by: Almost Shakespeare at May 19, 2019 12:44 PM (o2vOl)

40 bad for energy investors.

--

That's a huge part of what's driving this alternative fuel/solar power BS.

Insider trading isn't illegal for politicians. They intend to be modern oil barons.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 12:44 PM (EOEiY)

41 It will mean plantations of carbon-capture technology which suck carbon money out of the atmosphere taxpayers' wallets, and give leftist government officials more power.

FIFY.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:44 PM (if8r4)

42 There's never a ceiling. There's never a bottom.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (7cJE3)

There's ALWAYS a bottom.

Posted by: Reggie Love at May 19, 2019 12:45 PM (NWiLs)

43 F*ck!

Just walked out on the porch and found that the Stihl weedeater and Stihl chainsaw that I had left out overnight were stolen.

Very safe neighborhood, but increasing numbers of hispanic construction and yard workers are passing through.

Not a good thing to have to deal with on Sunday.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:45 PM (CDGwz)

44 As a matter of fact, Eagle production is constrained by transportation. Output has been maxed for several years now...
FWIW, transportation has been the biggest single hindrance to US production over the past half decade or longer. Ms mouse has worked w/pipeline and transport companies for years and can give anyone an earful on this...
Posted by: Anon a mouse

_____________

The companies building pipelines are getting fought by well funded environmentalists. Judges are all too happy to give these frivolous lawsuits the time of day.

I was reading one where because some construction workers didn't clean up all their litter on a pipeline build, a lawsuit was filed as if there was "pollution" from a spill and a judge green lighted that particular line of reasoning.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 12:45 PM (UfkIY)

45 https://tinyurl.com/y49n7k9y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

oy

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 12:45 PM (ykq7q)

46 Peak Oil was based on the understanding of oil and its origins at the time: it made sense that if oil was compressed ancient forest land that it would be very finite and limited. Except there's so much out there and so much more is being found that its petty obviously not coming from ancient forests.

Every time someone would announce peak oil or it started gaining notice and influence, someone would find another gigantic sea of oil. Over and over this has happened, and you really don't see it coming up much any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:46 PM (39g3+)

47 Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:26 PM (BbGew)

https://outline.com/ is a fantastic thing....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 12:46 PM (wYseH)

48 The only problem with electric cars is energy storage. When we can drive an electric car four hundred miles or eight hours with the air conditioner on from one charge and that charge costing no more than the equivalent today in gas the internal combustion engine will fade to job specific use.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 12:46 PM (7cJE3)

49 I'm still trying to figure out the solar panels on an east-facing roof -- in Northern Illinois, for heaven's sake. My ignorant impression would be that a south-facing roof would be most beneficial, but is the writeoff so much that over half the day there is little to no sunlight?

None of this nonsense makes sense to me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 12:47 PM (MIKMs)

50 We shale go on to the end.
We shale fight in France,
we shale fight on the seas and oceans,
we shale fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air.
We shale defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
We shale fight on the beaches,
we shale fight on the landing-grounds,
we shale fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shale fight in the hills.
We shale never surrender!

Posted by: Almost Churchill at May 19, 2019 12:47 PM (o2vOl)

51 Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 12:42 PM (6qErC)

Very interesting that transportation, America's specialty, became the roadblock to progress under O's administration.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 12:47 PM (phT8I)

52 Speaking of, we laughed about it yesterday but the reason Tesla keeps breaking lap records at short tracks is

1) Because electric cars can be very fast.

2) Electric cars can't race at long tracks.

Apparently Nurburgring, the big famous place in Germany where manufactures brag about their time, takes around 8 minutes to lap, and Teslas can't race that way for 8 minutes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 12:47 PM (EOEiY)

53 Solar panels will lead to an explosion of squeegee jobs in the snow belt.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y29bglc2

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:47 PM (NpoKk)

54 https://tinyurl.com/y49n7k9y
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)


Look on the bright side: he's giving us 30 years. Last I heard it was 12, so we've got another 18 years without doing a damned thing.

And he's a journalist, so he knows things. Things you and I wouldn't understand.

So, David Wallace-Wells, tell us a story ... (sits down on floor cross-legged, eagerly waiting to hear a fairy tale)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:48 PM (if8r4)

55 This is just another anti-oil (progress) rant.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 12:29 PM (JFO2v)

No...the article is evenhanded and quite interesting. I quoted the critics because their arguments are stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 12:48 PM (wYseH)

56 I work in the field (well, provide services to those companies) and I'm extremely optimistic. From an inside view, the concerns about some of the problems by the critics are a "yes, but..." kind of thing. For example, debt - Yes, especially in 2013 - 2014, far too much debt was handed out far too optimistically to some start ups. (Same thing as happens in the tech industry every time there's some new tech breakthrough) So, some outfits go bankrupt, some bets are lost, but the survivors consolidate and get stronger. that's how financial bets go in every booming business.

Also, a technical point - they're calling it "shale oil", but the same techniques and methods apply to low porosity limestone and chalk formations. So they all get lumped in together.

Why do limestone and chalk matter? Look up some maps of what became North America during the Jurassic and Cretaceous, and you'll see much of it was covered by a vast shallow sea. That sea left hundreds of feet of limestone and chalk formations underneath much of the western US, and oil and gas can be produced from just about all of it.

btw, for the climate crazies who say warming will KILL US ALL, at the time that shallow sea was there, the Earth is estimated at having been 9 degrees warmer than today, on average - no ice anywhere on the planet. And the total life on the planet (ie,biomass) is estimated to have been at least double the amount of life that exists today. A warm world is an incredibly fertile garden.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 12:49 PM (V2Yro)

57 When we can drive an electric car four hundred miles or eight hours with the air conditioner on from one charge and that charge costing no more than the equivalent today in gas the internal combustion engine will fade to job specific use.

Well that and speed of charging. It still takes way too long for realistic use unless you want to read a book while your car "refuels."

And then there's the problem of replacing that battery every 6-10 years. Plus the range decay. I mean they all lie about their charge (like gas cars lie about mileage) but your car will generally stay pretty close to its original mileage as long as you maintain it well. But an electric car gets less and less range over time no matter how well you care for it, because those batteries ain't forever.

And when you replace the batteries it costs a damned fortune, like replacing your engine every decade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:49 PM (39g3+)

58 The only problem with electric cars is energy storage. When we can drive an electric car four hundred miles or eight hours with the air conditioner on from one charge and that charge costing no more than the equivalent today in gas the internal combustion engine will fade to job specific use.
Posted by: Braenyard
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You should have added, in the dark, on account of the lighting systems. And while I don't know, it might require more energy to heat a car during subfreezing weather than to cool it, say, 20 deg. during hot weather.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:49 PM (xSo9G)

59 But aren't we all going to die, either from the heat because all refrigerants have been outlawed, or from the cold because all efficient sources of energy have been outlawed?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 12:50 PM (3hr5B)

60 Not a good thing to have to deal with on Sunday.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 12:45 PM (CDGwz)

****

On the upside you shale not have to do yard work today.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:51 PM (0tfLf)

61 He was an man, take him for all in all.
I shale not look upon his like again.

Posted by: Almost Shakespeare at May 19, 2019 12:51 PM (o2vOl)

62 I'm still trying to figure out the solar panels on an east-facing roof -- in Northern Illinois, for heaven's sake. My ignorant impression would be that a south-facing roof would be most beneficial, but is the writeoff so much that over half the day there is little to no sunlight?

None of this nonsense makes sense to me.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 12:47 PM (MIKMs)


Fun story here. We sold the stately Chateau Merde to some very earnest eco-nut liberals. They put solar panels ... on a NORTH-facing roof.

I laugh every time I drive by it. Of course, this is the guy who tore a garage door in half by latching it at the bottom, then hitting the button to activate the garage door opener. He's also the guy who let the lawn become overgrown, then tried to mow it with a reel mower - to save the planet, natch - before giving up six feet in.

But he's smarter than other people. He's a liberal.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:52 PM (if8r4)

63 Also, electric car ranges are all based on an empty, or nearly empty car. Each person you add in greatly reduces the range, much more so than a car loses MPG rating. A family of four and some luggage and you're crippling the poor thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:52 PM (39g3+)

64 Go thou, and fill another room in hell.
That hand shale burn in never-quenching fire,
That staggers thus my person.

Posted by: Almost Richard II at May 19, 2019 12:52 PM (o2vOl)

65 The only problem with electric cars is energy storage. When we can drive an electric car four hundred miles or eight hours with the air conditioner on from one charge and that charge costing no more than the equivalent today in gas the internal combustion engine will fade to job specific use.
Posted by: Braenyard

________________

I hate the "politics" of electric cars and the virtue signaling, but I would argue the technology is not that far away where it's no longer a "toy car".

My brother bought a Tesla, the cheapest Model 3. It got lots of eye rolls from me, I drove it around though, and that is the future. Car is crazy fast (like an exotic supercar) goes 100 miles on a charge, charge it at your house, almost zero maintenance, etc. And that's from a car company that is sort of a joke. When the real car companies sink their teeth into the market, people will prefer electric all day. My brother is a Trump-loving, environmental-loathing personality and he swears he'll never own a gas car again.

All the environmental nonsense on modern cars has made the internal combustion engine a crazy complicated Rube Goldberg contraption where electric cars are going to be far simpler.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 12:53 PM (UfkIY)

66 My brother bought a Tesla, the cheapest Model 3. It got lots of eye rolls from me, I drove it around though, and that is the future. Car is crazy fast (like an exotic supercar) goes 100 miles on a charge, charge it at your house, almost zero maintenance, etc. And that's from a car company that is sort of a joke. When the real car companies sink their teeth into the market, people will prefer electric all day.

---

What are his other cars?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 12:54 PM (EOEiY)

67 I was reading one where because some construction workers didn't clean up all their litter on a pipeline build, a lawsuit was filed as if there was "pollution" from a spill and a judge green lighted that particular line of reasoning.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 12:45 PM (UfkIY)


Do they mean like this

https://tinyurl.com/y6sg32e4

from the Keystone Pipeline temper tantrum?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:55 PM (if8r4)

68 Don't forget New York State bans any shale oil production, or new gas pipelines. This is Cuomo and his environment buddies planning on going 100 renewable by 2040. Ending fossil fuels use. Of course he will be dead by then, and who knows what the next Governor will do. He also just recently banned off shore drilling.

I remember when they were going to build a nuclear plant on Long Island. It was partly built, and I believe has been torn down. Nuclear power is dangerous, so they say.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 12:55 PM (+0N+f)

69 Battery technology doesn't even work well when you can predict demand (which is really impossible). And battery and solar components are not really good for children or other living things.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (3hr5B)

70
https://outline.com/ is a fantastic thing....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


The last few times I tried it at the WSJ it no longer worked. Still works at the Indy Star, though.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (aKsyK)

71 Question for the boffins.

Has the energy density of batteries really improved that much since the first electric car emerged from a garage along with the IC and steam powered cars a century ago?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (NpoKk)

72 63 Also, electric car ranges are all based on an empty, or nearly empty car. Each person you add in greatly reduces the range, much more so than a car loses MPG rating. A family of four and some luggage and you're crippling the poor thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:52 PM (39g3+)


Yep. Turn on the heater, or the AC. Maybe you'll make it out of the driveway.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:57 PM (if8r4)

73 I remember when they were going to build a nuclear plant on Long Island. It was partly built, and I believe has been torn down. Nuclear power is dangerous, so they say.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 12:55 PM (+0N+f)


But, think of the graft involved in building and then destroying that plant!
Better yet, all that graft was provided by the end users!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 12:57 PM (3hr5B)

74 But we in it shale be remembered
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:57 PM (0tfLf)

75 May 19, N WI, it's snowing.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 12:57 PM (EfMCv)

76
Maj Brian Shul tells you a story.

You WANT to click on this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DapAKN-RA58

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2019 12:58 PM (qTQgG)

77 And battery and solar components are not really good for children or other living things.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (3hr5B)


This is a little known fact. Manufacture of batteries and solar panels is about as dirty an industry as you could ever hope to find.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 12:58 PM (if8r4)

78 Nuclear power is dangerous, so they say.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 12:55 PM (+0N+f)

Yup...Shorham on Long Island. And they are forcing Indian Point to close far earlier than it should, so NY will soon be paying a lot more for electricity.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 12:58 PM (wYseH)

79 And battery and solar components are not really good for children or other living things.
=====

Highly toxic and components are mined by slave labor. Sad that battery tech has not innovated very much.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 12:59 PM (MIKMs)

80 It's interesting how it's difficult to find the data on how many electric car buyers use their electric car as their only vehicle.

I did see that around 11-17% of Americans PERIOD only have one car, so I'm guessing it's somewhere around three to five.

Three to five electric car buyers, that is. Not percent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 12:59 PM (EOEiY)

81 Well and our electric grid is already groaning under the burden of current demand. Even a small increase in electric car use and we're in serious trouble.

That can be addressed, but its not a priority right now and if (which I don't believe is true) electric cars are the thing of the future, it has to be done NOW.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:00 PM (39g3+)

82 I'm guessing it's the way it's been for years and years. Some people buy convertibles, some people buy trucks, and now some people buy electric cars as their third vehicle.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:00 PM (EOEiY)

83 There is aone big effect of the shale revolution that isn't hardly talked about at all that affects everyone in the business negatively and which is hardly ever talked about (which surprises me) - and that is the cost of Natural Gas keeps going down and down. It's getting below the cost of production and still dropping, costs for natural gas now are essentially transportation and regulatory costs, and the product itself is virtually valueless.

I personally didn't think that could happen, and have been astounded to watch it happen anyways. The reason, ironically, is that oil prices keep going up because of international considerations. Drillers are drilling for oil production in these tight formations, and that is where they make their money. Natural gas can be found in pure gas wells, but it is also a byproduct of most oil wells, especially those that are fracced. Since these producers are covering all their costs with the oil production, the nat gas they produce is dumped on the market at any price. In fact, it is now such an extreme situation that in West Texas, the amount of nat gas being flared (being burned and dumped as a waste product) is equal to the entire residential nat gas use in Texas. It's a terrible situation for pure gas producers, as nat gas by itself is essentially worthless right now, because the over supply is so intense.

(and of course you have to build pipelines to get it from one place to another, and that's where the regulatory burden comes in)

The only answer that anyone in the industry can see is to get more and more of the gas liquefaction plants on line which would allow this surplus to be sold overseas - but that is going to take a long time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:00 PM (V2Yro)

84 re: electric cars. how many cars are operated in the u.s. now? how in the fuck are we going to convert to all electric transportation without upgrading power generation infrastructure? am i missing something? i guess unicorn farts and hope are really magic

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 19, 2019 01:01 PM (KP5rU)

85 All the environmental nonsense on modern cars has made the internal combustion engine a crazy complicated Rube Goldberg contraption where electric cars are going to be far simpler.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 12:53 PM (UfkIY)


We spent over a hundred years building out the gasoline supply and distribution network across the entire US and much of Canada. It's going to take just a wee bit before you're going to find a Tesla accredited charging station in Death Valley.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:01 PM (3hr5B)

86 71 Question for the boffins.

Has the energy density of batteries really improved that much since the first electric car emerged from a garage along with the IC and steam powered cars a century ago?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (NpoKk)

My understanding is no, not really.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:02 PM (V2Yro)

87 https://outline.com/ is a fantastic thing....


It was. It doesn't get past the NYT or WSJ paywalls anymore.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 01:02 PM (fuK7c)

88 Hydrogen fuel cell?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:03 PM (7cJE3)

89 May 19, N WI, it's snowing.

Posted by: davidt at May 19, 2019 12:57 PM (EfMCv)

To be fair, you're living in WI, so...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:03 PM (3hr5B)

90 Screw HS rail...Monorail is the way to go! My dad actually fell for that and talked about monorails everywhere.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:04 PM (+0N+f)

91 It's neat that engine technology has advanced so much in the last thirty years and MPG has stayed about the same.

1985 four cylinder Accord 22 city, 27 highway

2018 four cylinder Accord 23 city, 32 highway

Why, it's almost like all the federally mandated safety devices have increased weight or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:05 PM (EOEiY)

92 In the longer run, the US has a much smaller 'proven reserve' of oil and gas than 3 or 4 middle eastern countries, plus the biggest dog of them all, Venezuela.

And yet, west Texas and their Permian Basin are kicking out over 4 million barrels a day, making them the 3rd largest producer in the world after the Saudis and Russia.

Production cost-wise, the Saudis could easily drown the frackers out as their cost to pump oil out of the ground is around 3-4 bucks a barrel. But they need higher prices as they are are already running deficits at current pricing. So no can do.

The US has 500 years worth of our energy needs in coal alone. We are not about to go dark any time soon, unless the Greenies assume control of things.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Z4rgH)

93 Has the energy density of batteries really improved that much since the first electric car emerged from a garage along with the IC and steam powered cars a century ago?

Kind of. They've gotten more efficient, but almost all of the research is in speeding up recharge time. Which has gotten a lot better, but is still seriously slow compared to 30 seconds at the gas pump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:05 PM (39g3+)

94 May 19, N WI, it's snowing.

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So you're saying your electric car might get half it's normal range?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:05 PM (EOEiY)

95 >>>We spent over a hundred years building out the gasoline supply and distribution network across the entire US and much of Canada. It's going to take just a wee bit before you're going to find a Tesla accredited charging station in Death Valley.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:01 PM (3hr5B)


There's so much pipe under Texas and its' cities they don't know where it is. They just measure what goes in one end and what comes out the other.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:06 PM (7cJE3)

96 1990 Civic CRX could get up to 50mpg highway.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 01:06 PM (NpoKk)

97 Gov Cuomo was asked if he was going to give up his large SUV's and helicopters, of course he said no way. Whats fine for me, isn't fine for you. Socialism at its best.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:07 PM (+0N+f)

98 https://tinyurl.com/y49n7k9y
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)


David Wallace-Wells's book opens with:

"It is worse, much worse, than you think."

It's nice that this "journalist" warns us about his reporting right up front.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:07 PM (if8r4)

99 1990 Civic CRX could get up to 50mpg highway.

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Silly fun, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:08 PM (EOEiY)

100 96 1990 Civic CRX could get up to 50mpg highway.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 01:06 PM (NpoKk)

Itty bitty car, though.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

101 A stagnating break-even price doesn't indicate a widespread means or desire to dramatically undercut that price out in the wild. I think shale oil will act as a sort of pressure valve that will somewhat stabilize oil prices near its break-even price. As long as the technology isn't lost and reserves aren't depleted, it can be stopped and restarted as many times as is required.

Posted by: DaveM at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (WWC3Y)

102 45 https://tinyurl.com/y49n7k9y

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

oy

"The uninhabitable Earth" - what total crap. It fits in with a genre of book/article that I see a lot from the climatistas, and it follows a predictable pattern. 1st, assume the Horrible Thing will happen, based on almost no actual evidence, but just on computer models built by people who have a vested interest in predicting the Horrible thing, and then 2) spend 95% of your time and effort on telling people how Horrible the Horrible Thing (that you have simply assumed will happen) is going to be.

The entire exercise is designed for a fairly simple purpose - to use fear to scare people with low critical thinking skills into doing what you want them to do. that's the entire game, right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (V2Yro)

103 Itty bitty car, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

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Hold my beer.

- Buick, BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Ford, etc.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (EOEiY)

104 The US has 500 years worth of our energy needs in coal alone. We are not about to go dark any time soon, unless the Greenies assume control of things.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2019 01:05 PM (Z4rgH)


Once you go dark, you never go back.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (if8r4)

105 30 seconds at the gas pump.


You don't drive a pickup.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (7cJE3)

106 Shale bought us time. Now get the reactors up.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (ABuva)

107 Cuomo or cui bono

Not much difference in actuality?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 01:10 PM (NpoKk)

108 Has the energy density of batteries really improved that much since the first electric car emerged from a garage along with the IC and steam powered cars a century ago?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (NpoKk)

My understanding is no, not really.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:02 PM (V2Yro)


A most excellent question, but I think Tom answered it correctly. I do believe that electric motor technology has improved greatly (neodymium magnets) which helps greatly.

But as a counter, I just filled up the Bentley with 100 octane non-ethanol for under fifty dollars, took me less than five minutes, and I 'm now good for a 400 mile range with a loaded auto, and I KNOW (with absolute certainty) that there are multiple gas stations at the other end of my trip!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:10 PM (3hr5B)

109 The criticism is largely BS.

BC most of the critics are inherently anti-oil/gas. And so they lie.

So FUCK them, soldier on.

Posted by: HA at May 19, 2019 01:11 PM (MAstk)

110 106 Itty bitty car, though.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:08 PM (NWiLs)

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Hold my beer.

- Buick, BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Ford, etc.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (EOEiY)

Heh. A high school buddy had a CRX. I remember a few times where a number of us would cram ourselves in there way beyond its intended capacity.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:11 PM (NWiLs)

111 "The uninhabitable Earth" - what total crap. It fits in with a genre of book/article that I see a lot from the climatistas, and it follows a predictable pattern. 1st, assume the Horrible Thing will happen, based on almost no actual evidence, but just on computer models built by people who have a vested interest in predicting the Horrible thing, and then 2) spend 95% of your time and effort on telling people how Horrible the Horrible Thing (that you have simply assumed will happen) is going to be.

The entire exercise is designed for a fairly simple purpose - to use fear to scare people with low critical thinking skills into doing what you want them to do. that's the entire game, right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (V2Yro)


Did he mention it would be Horrible?

"Oh no, we're doomed! Who will save us? We need a hero to save us and protect us!"

Move over, Lifetime channel, you've got comp-e-tition. /Cosell

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (if8r4)

112 38 It's comical that you can search for

how many solar panels does it take to produce a single solar panel

and there are no results.


Some recent publications in the energy/energy policy space have asserted that the Energy Returned on Energy Invested for solar photovoltaics is close to 1
... that is, it takes a Joule of energy to make a solar panel that produces a Joule of energy.

So an energy treadmill at best.

Posted by: crisis du jour at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (L8DUW)

113 I saw a Buick Encore the other day that I honestly thought was an optical illusion.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (EOEiY)

114 1990 Civic CRX could get up to 50mpg highway.

Yeah the old CVCC got that kind of mileage too. But today you can buy a Smart Car that's even smaller and stupider looking, which pulls down... around 40

http://www.fuelly.com/car/smart/fortwo

The Prius super zowie hybrid car gets... even less.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (39g3+)

115 Anything that puts major financial hurt on the usual suspects (Russia! Venezuela, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other assorted stuff-holes of terrorism) is okay by me.

Oil is a form of concentrated energy. And civilization runs on energy.

All the green nude eels and their ilk want to do is take us back to the days before civilization. Because uncivilized people are kind and gentle and more in touch with nature.

These people have been the recipients of the richest civilized society the world has ever known. They have grown more stupid the richer we get. Nature is red in tooth and claw and is brutally uncivilized in all ways. The green nude eels wouldn't last five minutes in their imaginary Garden of Eden.

Posted by: Boots at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (e9omi)

116 Some recent publications in the energy/energy policy space have asserted that the Energy Returned on Energy Invested for solar photovoltaics is close to 1

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Cradle to grave? Because if that accounts for refining the metal, transporting the supplies, etc. I'd be impressed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:13 PM (EOEiY)

117 88 Hydrogen fuel cell?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:03 PM (7cJE3)

I'm all for hydrogen fuel cells, where they make sense. What's put the enviro's off on them is the realization that the only realistic feedstock for Hydrogen production is Methane (Natural Gas) - so it's just another O & G product. (water is a theoretical feedstock, but the bonds holding H2O together take far too much energy to break up)

And once you realize it's just a nat gas product, why not save a step and combust the Methane directly, rather than going to the trouble of converting it to Hydrogen first?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:13 PM (V2Yro)

118 Shale oil shall tide us over until we mine the moons of Uranus for methane.



Now to read the above to see how many morons already made that obvious point....

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:14 PM (1g7ch)

119 Shale bought us time. Now get the reactors up.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 19, 2019 01:09 PM (ABuva)


If it wasn't so tragic, it would be funny that nearly all the really advanced (and safe) nuclear power technology advances are dying on the vine!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:14 PM (3hr5B)

120 I'm waiting for this summer when the rolling blackout hit Southern California. Should be interesting. Newman will say hey, you only need power during the day anyway, that's why they invented candles.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:15 PM (+0N+f)

121 115 Some recent publications in the energy/energy policy space have asserted that the Energy Returned on Energy Invested for solar photovoltaics is close to 1
... that is, it takes a Joule of energy to make a solar panel that produces a Joule of energy.

So an energy treadmill at best.

Posted by: crisis du jour at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (L8DUW)
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I've seen reports that windmills, i.e., bird grinders, never even achieve 1:1 energy efficiency, meaning that windmills never even generate the energy needed to source the materials, build the windmill, transport it and install it. Windmills are worse than treadmills, they are sinkholes!

Posted by: Boots at May 19, 2019 01:15 PM (e9omi)

122 Posted by: crisis du jour at May 19, 2019 01:12 PM (L8DUW)

I'm sorry that data is not available!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:16 PM (3hr5B)

123 We spent over a hundred years building out the gasoline supply and distribution network across the entire US and much of Canada. It's going to take just a wee bit before you're going to find a Tesla accredited charging station in Death Valley.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar

_____________

Considering every gas station/business/home already has electric power, it's not going to be that difficult to charge electric cars.

There's no question this is where everything is going, it's just a matter of "how long"? Is it 20 years or 30 years?

I guess what I find odd is a lot of my fellow conservatives don't want electric cars to succeed. I like that it costs like $5 to "fill up" an electric car rather than the $50 Im paying now.

I also like the idea of not having to ask permission from Saudi Arabia if we want to put sanctions on Iran and beg them to pump more oil for us so our economy won't collapse. Most of the countries that produce oil, I'd love to see go under.

The US has been bullied for several generations by an OPEC cartel that hates us, more choice in energy would be a good thing.

I'm 100% against electric car subsidies, carbon credits, etc. Anything that's corporate welfare. But I want electric cars to succeed and the tech to progress.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:16 PM (UfkIY)

124
The green nude eels wouldn't last five minutes in their imaginary Garden of Eden.
Posted by: Boots


Just like the Star Trek space hippies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 01:17 PM (aKsyK)

125 88 Hydrogen fuel cell?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:03 PM (7cJE3)


You know all those video clips of chicks driving off trailing the gas pump nozzle?

E.g., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsC5u8_ZwXo

Now imagine that the pump was dispensing hydrogen instead of gasoline.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:17 PM (if8r4)

126 I'm driving around the country with my folks looking for retirement homes.

South Knoxville, TN is the muthaphukkin shiznit. This place is AWESOME.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2019 01:17 PM (fRqmt)

127 My brother bought a Tesla, the cheapest Model 3. It got lots of eye rolls from me, I drove it around though, and that is the future. Car is crazy fast (like an exotic supercar) goes 100 miles on a charge, charge it at your house, almost zero maintenance, etc. And that's from a car company that is sort of a joke. When the real car companies sink their teeth into the market, people will prefer electric all day.

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What are his other cars?

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I'm still very interested in the answer to this, btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:18 PM (EOEiY)

128 goes 100 miles on a charge,

..


That's terrible.

Posted by: HA at May 19, 2019 01:18 PM (MAstk)

129 Electric cars are fine for people in urban areas who's trips are limited to less than 100 miles per day. For Rural people and those who travel, they just don't work under current technology.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:19 PM (V2Yro)

130
Can someone answer a chess question? I don't want to wait a whole week.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:19 PM (13CQC)

131 Windmills are worse than treadmills, they are sinkholes!

Posted by: Boots at May 19, 2019 01:15 PM (e9omi)

The best part about windmills, other than the bird murdering aspect, is that when there is a really good wind with LOTS of energy, you have to feather the blades because the design limits have been reached.

IIRC, I believe the North Sea windmills had to have electric heaters to avoid freezing of components!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:19 PM (3hr5B)

132 Caller into the Car Pros show wanted to buy an electric or hybrid.

Response was, buy a Prius, if the battery goes down it'll still get close to the same gas mileage. The others won't.

That sounds like a smart purchase for a hybrid but a really dumb idea overall. But green _ and delusional.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:19 PM (7cJE3)

133 133
Can someone answer a chess question? I don't want to wait a whole week.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:19 PM (13CQC)

Flip the board over, loudly accuse your opponent of cheating, and storm out of the room.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:19 PM (NWiLs)

134 Preezy Shit Midas put as his sooper Scincy adviser Paul Ehrilch. The mental imbecile that wrote the Population Bomb. Made a bet that all of his predictions would come through and lost every single one.

Yeah the Bamster used that guy 100% wrong Paul Ehrilch as his main science adviser. Obama was a 80IQ idiot at best. But demofascists are the party of science... and hate but mostly hate oh and intolerance.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 01:20 PM (pw+jk)

135 Now imagine that the pump was dispensing hydrogen instead of gasoline.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:17 PM (if8r4)


GM had a large fuel cell research center near where I live. It was closed down about 3 years ago. They even built some refueling stations. One large fire kind of did in the whole thing at a refueling station. Don't know how much research GM is doing now.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:20 PM (+0N+f)

136 My understanding is no, not really."

No. And never will.

See, there's this thing - a sort of chart, if you will, that one can use to calculate the electrical charges of chemical reactions.

Elemental, one might say...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 01:21 PM (6qErC)

137 Considering every gas station/business/home already has electric power,
it's not going to be that difficult to charge electric cars.



There's no question this is where everything is going, it's just a matter of "how long"? Is it 20 years or 30 years?

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Hey the 1910s want their electric car propaganda back.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 01:21 PM (pw+jk)

138 I've seen reports that windmills, i.e., bird grinders, never even achieve 1:1 energy efficiency, meaning that windmills never even generate the energy needed to source the materials, build the windmill, transport it and install it. Windmills are worse than treadmills, they are sinkholes! "

I wonder how many people realize that with a good oil or gas well, especially one that lasts for a few years, the producer gets 1,000 - maybe 10,000, maybe 100,000 more joules of energy out of it than it cost to get it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (V2Yro)

139
goes 100 miles on a charge,
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Maybe I am just too old, but I do remember used car ads 'only driven by a little old lady to church on Sunday' keeping mileage low and a like-new deal. Battery tech currently (huh) needs to be used or else the battery loses power and the battery costs more than the car itself.


Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (MIKMs)

140
The best part about windmills, other than the bird murdering aspect...

When the bird problem with windmills was brought up on "The Five" the other day Juan Williams stated that a new study reports that more birds are killed by cell phone towers than by windmills. I'm not sure what his point was.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (aKsyK)

141 What are his other cars?

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I'm still very interested in the answer to this, btw.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

____________

His wife has a Lexus NX, but his Tesla is what he drives every day to work.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (UfkIY)

142 The entire exercise is designed for a fairly simple purpose - to use fear to scare people with low critical thinking skills into doing what you want them to do

Montesquieu wrote long ago about the primary trait of different types of government.

A republic requires people's primary trait to be virtue for it to exist: a corrupt people ruin a republic by voting its self goodies at the expense of the future and electing corrupt people.

A monarchy requires people's primary trait to be honor for it to exist: honor to obey and defend the authority of the monarchy and nobility, as well as to properly care for the subjects of the king.

A tyranny requires people's primary trait to be fear for it to exist: fear of the government, fear of each other, fear of being denounced.

Which most accurately describes our current climate?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (39g3+)

143 Wind mills need heat in the winter to keep the lubricants working. I read that in cold weather, most of the energy produced is used to keep the windmill housing warm.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:23 PM (+0N+f)

144
GM had a large fuel cell research center near where I live. It was closed down about 3 years ago. They even built some refueling stations. One large fire kind of did in the whole thing at a refueling station. Don't know how much research GM is doing now.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:20 PM (+0N+f)

They should have named it the Hindenburg Station.

(Hydrogen is very hard to contain, being the tiniest atom possible, it tends to leak out of almost any container)

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:23 PM (V2Yro)

145 Test
&

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 01:24 PM (sdi6R)

146 Yay!

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 01:24 PM (sdi6R)

147 139 My understanding is no, not really."

No. And never will.

See, there's this thing - a sort of chart, if you will, that one can use to calculate the electrical charges of chemical reactions.

Elemental, one might say...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 01:21 PM (6qErC)


No shit?

Posted by: Walther Nernst at May 19, 2019 01:24 PM (if8r4)

148 A tyranny requires people's primary trait to be fear for it to exist: fear of the government, fear of each other, fear of being denounced.

Which most accurately describes our current climate?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (39g3+)

Why, that sounds like a Climate Emergency!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:24 PM (V2Yro)

149 145 Test
&
Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 01:24 PM (sdi6R)
Dbol
&
HGH

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:24 PM (NWiLs)

150
Flip the board over, loudly accuse your opponent of cheating, and storm out of the room.
Posted by: Insomniac

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Hmm, I don't see that move in Lisa Lane vs Theodore Bullockus, 59th US Open (195, Rochester, MN USA.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:25 PM (13CQC)

151 Hydrogen cars are basically just natural gas powered cars. With an expensive and complicated "middle man" step all so the exhaust from the car looks clean. The Japanese are the ones that seem obsessed with it.

I'm actually surprised natural gas powered cars never really gained popularity outside of fleet cars. Especially in the 1970s.

GM actually experimented with cars powered from coal dust during that era.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:25 PM (UfkIY)

152 His wife has a Lexus NX, but his Tesla is what he drives every day to work.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (UfkIY)

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Thanks. There's your answer, btw. They are neat toys, but people who buy $40k+ toys (and pay $5k for the charging improvements to their garage) are smart enough to have another actual car they can use, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 01:25 PM (lPsvG)

153 They should have named it the Hindenburg Station.

(Hydrogen is very hard to contain, being the tiniest atom possible, it tends to leak out of almost any container)
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:23 PM (V2Yro)


And that is if the hydrogen just burns. If it has mixed with oxygen before being ignited, you will be treated to a truly impressive explosion. Did I mention it would be impressive? Make that "extremely impressive."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (if8r4)

154 When the bird problem with windmills was brought up on "The Five" the other day Juan Williams stated that a new study reports that more birds are killed by cell phone towers than by windmills. I'm not sure what his point was.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (aKsyK)


Did genius Juan say exactly how the birds were killed by the cell phone towers?

There should be mounds of dead birds at the base of the cell towers that dot almost the entire US if this is true!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (3hr5B)

155
But really, you morons have gotten me interested in chess. So in "Lisa Lane vs Theodore Bullockus," can I assume that Lisa played white?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (13CQC)

156 Had a friend who dropped 50k on a new car.

I said dude, you drive it 30 min to work and it sits parked for 9 1/2 hours.

Then you drive home 30 min and it sits in your garage for 14 hours until you wake up the next morning and do it again.

He just looked at me.

Posted by: HA at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (MAstk)

157 Has anyone done the math on what the electricity needs and costs would be if you assumed that every car on the road was replaced by electric cars tomorrow? Maybe it's not a problem, bit it seems like we might need to know this before we start sucking each others dicks over our wonderful electric future.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (H5knJ)

158 Hmm, I don't see that move in Lisa Lane vs Theodore Bullockus, 59th US Open (195, Rochester, MN USA.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:25 PM (13CQC)

Bullockus? That's a joke name, like Sillius Soddus or Biggus Dickus.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:27 PM (NWiLs)

159 See, there's this thing - a sort of chart, if you will, that one can use to calculate the electrical charges of chemical reactions.

Yeah you can supercharge that with proper environment (super cooling) but there's just an absolute limit under present technology and scientific understanding. Similarly, there is an absolute limit to how fast that energy can be stored.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:27 PM (39g3+)

160 154 When the bird problem with windmills was brought up on "The Five" the other day Juan Williams stated that a new study reports that more birds are killed by cell phone towers than by windmills. I'm not sure what his point was.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (aKsyK)

Did genius Juan say exactly how the birds were killed by the cell phone towers?

There should be mounds of dead birds at the base of the cell towers that dot almost the entire US if this is true!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (3hr5B)


I'm sure Juan Williams is a nice guy, but I'm also sure he has the IQ of a turnip.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:27 PM (if8r4)

161 18
That's so refreshing compared to the" Chee-lay" and "Nee-cah-rrrrrrrr-auguah" the smartest black man in the world always tried to do.

Strangely, he never said Deutschland or Nippon.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 12:34 PM (lPsvG)
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My particular favorite was the way he would say "Hohn-doo-rrras," when H is always silent in Spanish. Even Obama-positive hispanophones snickered at that one.

That's the trouble with being simultaneously ignorant and pretentious. Your mistakes are doubly absurd.

And yeah, you make a fine point at the end there.
Does anyone, while speaking English, call Paris "Paree" or "Rome" Roma?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (Rxduq)

162 Hey the 1910s want their electric car propaganda back.
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Every car will have an assistant to turn the crank -- like old telephones and cars.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (MIKMs)

163 Lower oil prices? doubled in the last 3 years!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (438dO)

164
Bullockus? That's a joke name, like Sillius Soddus or Biggus Dickus.
Posted by: Insomniac

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I think there's a reason why those people became chess players.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (13CQC)

165 A. Some people just hate fossil fuels.

B. Some people REALLY hate American fossil fuels.

C. Some people actually do collude with Russians, but they don't have orange hair.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (8rjXi)

166 Don't misunderstand. I like cars, and I like toys.

I also understand that a 9mm carbine won't ever really function as a .308 no matter how black it is or how many scopes I attach to it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (lPsvG)

167 Juan Williams stated that a new study reports that
more birds are killed by cell phone towers than by windmills.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 01:22 PM (aKsyK)

I would love to hear the mechanism of this slaughter. That they fly into tall things? Then cities must kill untold billions of birds.

He may be the dumbest person on earth.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (wYseH)

168 When GM had the research center near here, they gave demo rides to Politicians, who were enthusiastic beyond belief. The press was also all hyped up over it all. Haven't seen much since.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (+0N+f)

169 http://bit.ly/2WS1SNC
*******
Gowdy: FBI Has Papadopoulos Transcripts That Are Potential 'Game-Changer' | The Daily Caller

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 19, 2019 01:29 PM (BqBId)

170 Paul Erlich has always been a fraud - all he ever did was to rediscover the writings of Thomas Malthus (1766 - 1834) and rework them for 1960's sensibilities. Paul Erlich has never had a single original thought in his life - and the Malthusians, the economic cult he worked so hard to revive, are notable for having been absolutely and completely WRONG about EVERY economic prediction they have made for well over 200 years now.

And that was what Obama wanted in his science adviser. He makes Lysenko look like an intellectual.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:29 PM (V2Yro)

171 Just woke up

Have I missed anything?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (PkVlr)

172 Has anyone done the math on what the electricity needs and costs would be if you assumed that every car on the road was replaced by electric cars tomorrow?

..

Yes, they had a comprehensive study where they started with 30 million units and multiplied it by SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH.

Posted by: HA at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (MAstk)

173 143
Wind mills need heat in the winter to keep the lubricants working. I
read that in cold weather, most of the energy produced is used to keep
the windmill housing warm.


Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:23 PM (+0N+f)

+++Well there you go, it is efficient for taking care of itself. What more do you want, usable energy output or something?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (EjlXc)

174 I find it hilarious not only was Obama's Volt killed, but they ended up closing the factory where it was made.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (lPsvG)

175 Thanks. There's your answer, btw. They are neat toys, but people who buy $40k+ toys (and pay $5k for the charging improvements to their garage) are smart enough to have another actual car they can use, too.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

__________

Do married couples always share one car when it's a gasoline model?

My wife and I each have our own car and their both gas powered.

His Tesla is not a "weekend" car. He puts about 400 miles a week on it. Its how he gets to work every day.

I'm not going to buy a Tesla, I think the company will probably go through some sort of bankruptcy. I also think electric cars still have issues before i buy one. But some of the reasons people hate electric cars seem silly.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (UfkIY)

176 171 Just woke up

Have I missed anything?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (PkVlr)

*shifty eyes*
Uhh, no, nothing. Nothing at all.
*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

177 Cell Phone Towers killing birds is one of those hot topics that came up a while back. Its not really backed by a lot of study or hard facts, but a lot of claims. I'm skeptical of the reports but not rejecting them entirely. I'd just like to see more hard data and actual research rather than theorizing like "they get confused by the lights at night and accidentally hit wires" and stuff like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:31 PM (39g3+)

178 slaughter. That they fly into tall things? Then cities must kill untold billions of birds.

He may be the dumbest person on earth.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 01:28 PM (wYseH)

They just gotta stop flying while texting.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 01:31 PM (Ct55T)

179 159 See, there's this thing - a sort of chart, if you will, that one can use to calculate the electrical charges of chemical reactions.
-----
Yeah you can supercharge that with proper environment (super cooling) but there's just an absolute limit under present technology and scientific understanding. Similarly, there is an absolute limit to how fast that energy can be stored.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:27 PM (39g3+)


I don't understand this. Supercooling? The Nernst equation describes how electrochemical potential depends on concentration and temperature.

Present technology has nothing to do with it. It's straight-up thermodynamics. Which does not address the speed of reactions, just their propensity to occur.

So I'm confused.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:31 PM (if8r4)

180 Gowdy: FBI Has Papadopoulos Transcripts That Are Potential 'Game-Changer'

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I hope it's not Collusion Clue. The answer is always everybody everywhere with everything.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 01:32 PM (+y/Ru)

181 I'd just like to see more hard data and actual research rather than theorizing like "they get confused by the lights at night and accidentally hit wires" and stuff like that.

Uh ... don't almost all birds, except for owls, roost at night? Birds pretty much always operate under VFR.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:32 PM (if8r4)

182 156 Had a friend who dropped 50k on a new car.

I said dude, you drive it 30 min to work and it sits parked for 9 1/2 hours.

Then you drive home 30 min and it sits in your garage for 14 hours until you wake up the next morning and do it again.

He just looked at me.
Posted by: HA at May 19, 2019 01:26 PM (MAstk)"

And then he said "ha ha, I got a new car and you don't". And that was the end of it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:32 PM (V2Yro)

183 Didn't the Germans during WW2 use a charcoal burner to power their cars?

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:33 PM (+0N+f)

184 Hi Insom!


Eastern WA is covered with windmills. They are ugly and kill birds and bats and the noise they make drives people batshit crazy.

And they are an eyesore.

And they produce a negligible amount of energy.

and farmers are PAID NOT TO HAVE THEM RUN.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (PkVlr)

185 Has anyone done the math on what the electricity needs and costs would be if you assumed that every car on the road was replaced by electric cars tomorrow? Maybe it's not a problem, bit it seems like we might need to know this before we start sucking each others dicks over our wonderful electric future.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

..............

Micro-nuclear reactors in every small town solves the problem easily.

But, here's the catch.. Libtards wants electric cards so bad, but just the word "nuclear" makes them go batshit crazy.. it's a lovely thing to watch when you tell them nukes would solve all our environmental "problems".

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (438dO)

186 My particular favorite was the way he would say "Hohn-doo-rrras," when H
is always silent in Spanish. Even Obama-positive hispanophones
snickered at that one.

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Hey smarty pants the "H" isn't silent in my native Austrian.

Posted by: Barak Obama at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (pw+jk)

187
Gowdy: FBI Has Papadopoulos Transcripts That Are Potential 'Game-Changer' | The Daily Caller
Posted by: Deep State

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*potentially* exculpatory information on the question of *possible* collusion...has the *potential* to be a game-changer *if* it's ever made public



In other words...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (13CQC)

188

Ever notice fowl and owl is almost the same word?

And bowl? Er, bowel, I mean.

Towel?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (SGnpG)

189 Just woke up
Have I missed anything?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM


*tap* *tap*

Is this thing on?

*tap* *tap* *tap*

Posted by: W. Pecker VI at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (DMUuz)

190 His Tesla is not a "weekend" car. He puts about 400 miles a week on it. Its how he gets to work every day.

If you are wealthy, an electric car for a routine commuter in a city is a fine idea. They are really expensive and you have to be pretty rich to own a car just to drive to work with every day in addition to your other car, but to have one just to go to work and back solo is a decent concept.

If you want a car to run to the Home Depot and carry plywood and tools home, probably not. If you want a car to drive to Grandma's house in Brookfield Missouri, even less wise. If you live on a farm 30 miles from town and have to haul things around, definitely not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:34 PM (39g3+)

191 need coffeve.

yall have fun. I'm going to go to the gun store.

pew pew pew pew pew

BANG!

BOOM!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:35 PM (PkVlr)

192 Didn't the Germans during WW2 use a charcoal burner to power their cars?
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 01:33 PM (+0N+f)

I think so...that mountain man show had Eustace Conway run his truck on wood.

It was hilarious....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 01:35 PM (Z+IKu)

193 >>I'm not going to buy a Tesla, I think the company will probably go through some sort of bankruptcy. I also think electric cars still have issues before i buy one. But some of the reasons people hate electric cars seem silly.

Electric cars are currently limited by the same thing that solar panels are limited by, battery storage. Billions are being spent, much by the Chinese, in the development of next generation technology and when batteries start taking generational leaps both electric cars will be much more popular.

Some of the arguments I hear against electric cars seem to be based on the idea that the market is fully mature instead of in it's infancy. People don't go to war with muskets any more but they sure as hell buy lots of guns.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 01:35 PM (/tuJf)

194 Trumps tweets he is, "Strongly pro-life but backs exemptions for rape, incest, and democrats, but I repeat myself."




Snopes finds the above quote is Mostly True.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:35 PM (1g7ch)

195 And then he said "ha ha, I got a new car and you don't". And that was the end of it.
..


I think he understood he has tens of thousands of devaluing dollars parked in his garage.

Posted by: HA at May 19, 2019 01:36 PM (MAstk)

196 Just woke up

Have I missed anything?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (PkVlr)
********
Sunday Morning ??

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 19, 2019 01:36 PM (BqBId)

197 Mr, Pecker,

I left the directions to Diogenes' house on the roof.

THe convention started last week.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 19, 2019 01:36 PM (PkVlr)

198
Who gets sentenced TWO WEEKS in prison for a FEDERAL crime??

What kind of horseshit is that?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 01:36 PM (SGnpG)

199 Uh ... don't almost all birds, except for owls, roost at night? Birds pretty much always operate under VFR.

I don't really get it either, they're acting like birds are moths and if they hit a wire, they die. They don't: they aren't moving fast enough and are light enough it doesn't hurt them very badly. That's why they can full speed it into your window and after being stunned a while, fly away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:37 PM (39g3+)

200 His Tesla is not a "weekend" car. He puts about 400 miles a week on it. Its how he gets to work every day.

--

And that's exactly my point.

He does it all while owning another car for when he needs a real car.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:37 PM (EOEiY)

201 My 2016 Charger Hemi with variable valve timing and multiple displacement will AVAERAGE 27 mpg over the 300 mikes from home to the Gukld Shores. Thats with the AC running, three adults, and abiut 250lbs of luggage. I routinely get 23 mpg in the city going to/from work.

Fuck electric cars. My Hemi is an absolute blast to drive and its damned near as cheap to drive as the standard PoS import Honda charges out tje ass for.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at May 19, 2019 01:37 PM (VcFUs)

202
Ever notice fowl and owl is almost the same word?

And bowl? Er, bowel, I mean.

Towel?
Posted by: Soothsayer

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My favorite is martial and marital.

There's also united and untied.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:38 PM (13CQC)

203 Trey Gowdy is all hat with no cattle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 01:38 PM (Z+IKu)

204 Windmills were not invented as a general energy generator.

They are for milling grain (hence the name), pump water, and light up a red beacon on top of them as a high object warning to aircraft. These are the only practical function of windmills.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:38 PM (1g7ch)

205 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's, Gay, Lesbian, and Tri-Gender Reproductive Hearth Clinic believe this is bad for the earth. Ripping this stuff outs of the earth is meen and distucterive. These shale plant things have a life too and we be must stop this now to save these things for all children of color.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro (aka: Obamaboro), VT at May 19, 2019 01:38 PM (qM84C)

206 Some of the arguments I hear against electric cars seem to be based on the idea that the market is fully mature instead of in it's infancy.

A hundred year-old infancy, mind you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:39 PM (39g3+)

207 Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:16 PM (UfkIY)
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I like...
I also like...
what I find odd is a lot of my fellow conservatives...
I'm 100% against....
But I want...

Not many convincing facts about electric cars that I can see in that post.

Posted by: dDan at May 19, 2019 01:39 PM (hwYmz)

208 Didn't the Germans during WW2 use a charcoal burner to power their cars?

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Many people in the occupied countries did.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 01:39 PM (+y/Ru)

209 My 1968 Cadillac convertible with a 472 cubic inch V8 gets almost 18 MPG and I step on it all the time.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 01:39 PM (pw+jk)

210 And again, I like electric cars. I like assisted tech. I like toys, cars, and tech in general.

I don't like the fallacy that everyone wants, needs, or could use one if only the were $35,000 $39,000.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:40 PM (EOEiY)

211 Who gets sentenced TWO WEEKS in prison for a FEDERAL crime??

What kind of horseshit is that?"

Someone who was framed for a much more serious crime, except that the frame fell apart, so they were desperate to get something to avoid having to admit to the frame, so they ginned up something so light that they could get him to agree to plead guilty just to stop the bullshit attacks from coming.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2019 01:40 PM (V2Yro)

212 A hundred year-old infancy, mind you.

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Another $50 trillion and we'll have this war on poverty licked.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:40 PM (EOEiY)

213 Who gets sentenced TWO WEEKS in prison for a FEDERAL crime??



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Connected leftist. Every single time.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 01:41 PM (pw+jk)

214
Okay well, I'll just go with "L Lane vs B Dickus" Lisa is white. And if I go through life thinking that she walked into a common trap at move #34 when the opposite is true, I will hold you all responsible.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:41 PM (13CQC)

215 >>A hundred year-old infancy, mind you.

Prior to a few years ago they were not developed as a replacement for the internal combustion engine and the amount of money poured into traditional compared to electric vehicles isn't even in the same universe. Electric vehicles were developed for unique, niche markets.

It's all about battery development.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 01:42 PM (/tuJf)

216 If I could buy a shiny new Tesla (or knock-off) for about $18k, it could happen.

Posted by: klaftern at May 19, 2019 01:43 PM (RuIsu)

217 209 My 1968 Cadillac convertible with a 472 cubic inch V8 gets almost 18 MPG and I step on it all the time.

Posted by: Jukin


and that is why electric cars will go the way of dinosaurs unless each of us have a mini-nuke in our garage to power them back up.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at May 19, 2019 01:43 PM (VcFUs)

218 198


Who gets sentenced TWO WEEKS in prison for a FEDERAL crime??



What kind of horseshit is that?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 01:36 PM (SGnpG)

+++About the same time you might spend in bed recuperating from a bad cold or flu.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 01:43 PM (EjlXc)

219 My 1968 Cadillac convertible with a 472 cubic inch V8 gets almost 18 MPG and I step on it all the time.


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 19, 2019 01:39 PM (pw+jk)
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Oh man those were the days!

Posted by: Boots at May 19, 2019 01:43 PM (e9omi)

220 nice topic ... I had guessed a year or two back that shale profitability was around $42 .. but that chart shows it is a little lower as of 2018.

It does make sense that tech and the marginal unit thingy will improve profitability, but that might be offset to some degree by sources becoming harder to reach (assuming they tap they best reserves first).


And we haven't even started to TRY to tap the Atlantic or Pacific coasts, cuz ? ... global warming and acid rain ... or some such, I guess. AND we can still burn a lot of coal for power, which is also knee-capped by anti-American leftists (who don't mind China belching our raw soot so their slaves can produce cheap chit for US to buy on credit cards).


viva la revolucion ... cheap power is good for the masses.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2019 01:43 PM (Cus5s)

221 Has anyone done the math on what the electricity needs and costs would be if you assumed that every car on the road was replaced by electric cars tomorrow?

Well...let's do a little math.

270 million vehicles in the US.

Teslas require a 100A, 240V connection for a dual charger.

That's 24kw PER STATION.

So, let's say you only want to have charging stations for 30% of vehicles.

That's 1,944 gigawatts.

The current baseload generating capacity of the U.S. is....wait for it....around 1,000 gigawatts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2019 01:43 PM (8rjXi)

222 While we're here, a big problem electric cars have is that $40K cars compete with some really, really nice $40K cars that you can also drive to Grandma's for Christmas.

Or a $20K pretty nice Corolla (and $20K for gas) that can also be driven to Grandma's.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:44 PM (EOEiY)

223 Did I mention that Tesla charging station only work with Teslas?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2019 01:44 PM (8rjXi)

224 116 Cradle to grave? Because if that accounts for refining the metal, transporting the supplies, etc. I'd be impressed.

There's always the problem of where to draw the boundary around 'energy inputs'. For example: do you include the food energy needed for the workers to produce the solar panels? The 'no' case: that food energy fuels people, not manufacturing. The 'yes' case: those solar panels don't get built without it. (I'm in the 'yes' camp in this example.) I honestly don't remember where those authors came down on the transportation issue. I do remember that they were excoriated by several 'rebuttal' articles for casting aspersions on the wonderfulness of solar panels by postulating an EROEI ~1 for them.

Posted by: crisis du jour at May 19, 2019 01:44 PM (L8DUW)

225 223
Did I mention that Tesla charging station only work with Teslas?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2019 01:44 PM (8rjXi)

+++Oh, wow.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 01:46 PM (EjlXc)

226 Prior to a few years ago they were not developed as a replacement for the internal combustion engine and the amount of money poured into traditional compared to electric vehicles isn't even in the same universe.

Sure, there's a greater effort and more money being spent now but its not like battery research and efficiency has not increased over the interim. People were working on making better batteries and more readily rechargable ones long before this sudden push for electric cars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:46 PM (39g3+)

227 https://tinyurl.com/y49n7k9y
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 12:39 PM (aKsyK)

That guy's cri de coeur is a priceless example of the liberal genre. I think he was having his period when he wrote this POS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 01:46 PM (if8r4)

228 (221) Add in all of the Cu/Al conductors to distribute said juice. Slide rule time...

Posted by: klaftern at May 19, 2019 01:46 PM (RuIsu)

229 201 My 2016 Charger Hemi with variable valve timing and multiple displacement will AVAERAGE 27 mpg over the 300 mikes from home to the Gukld Shores. Thats with the AC running, three adults, and abiut 250lbs of luggage. I routinely get 23 mpg in the city going to/from work.

Fuck electric cars. My Hemi is an absolute blast to drive and its damned near as cheap to drive as the standard PoS import Honda charges out tje ass for.

Posted by: BifBewalski -sofa king we Todd did at May 19, 2019 01:37 PM (VcFUs)



You have to admit that Charger would be a good name for an electric car, though.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 01:47 PM (sdi6R)

230 I do remember that they were excoriated by several 'rebuttal' articles for casting aspersions on the wonderfulness of solar panels by postulating an EROEI ~1 for them.

Solar panels are fine for augmenting generation capacity. Where there is sun. If you are a commie in Vermont or the Seattle soviet, shut up.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 19, 2019 01:47 PM (8rjXi)

231 How many businesses start up without any debt? I would think not many.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 01:48 PM (ycWCI)

232 There's always the problem of where to draw the boundary around 'energy inputs'.

Yeah if you're going to compare energy efficiency between electric and gas you have to be fair and use the same metric for both sides. If you include the construction costs and time for the whole car, you have to do it for both.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:48 PM (39g3+)

233 If I could buy a shiny new Tesla (or knock-off) for about $18k, it could happen.

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That's the other thing. Go to craigslist and search for used Nissan Leafs. $40K cars with 25K-50K miles are all over the place for $10-15K.

https://bit.ly/30yszca

It's almost like people aren't willing to trade the inconvenience of having an interesting but marginally useful toy for the expense of replacing the batteries.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:48 PM (EOEiY)

234 http://bit.ly/2WS1SNC
*******
Gowdy: FBI Has Papadopoulos Transcripts That Are Potential 'Game-Changer' | The Daily Caller
Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 19, 2019 01:29 PM (BqBId)


Transcripts from when he went to the FBI and complained that, weird as it may seem, people wer

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:49 PM (1g7ch)

235 That's a five year old model, btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:49 PM (EOEiY)

236 Colorado's rich in gas and oil (not shale) and a majority (read: Denver metro) of voters in the state want it closed down.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2019 01:49 PM (5+4v7)

237 Transcripts from when he went to the FBI and complained that, weird as it may seem, people were spying on him?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:49 PM (1g7ch)

238 174 I find it hilarious not only was Obama's Volt killed, but they ended up closing the factory where it was made.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 01:30 PM (lPsvG)


There's a fancy literary term for that.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:51 PM (7cJE3)

239 Sure, there's a greater effort and more money being
spent now but its not like battery research and efficiency has not
increased over the interim. People were working on making better
batteries and more readily rechargable ones long before this sudden push
for electric cars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:46 PM (39g3+)

++++I don't even trust batteries now. Twice I've had a car battery die dead while still under warranty. That's fine and dandy that I didn't have to buy a new one. However, the inconvenience that ensued was time-consuming and annoying, and once put other people in a jam because I was unable to be present as scheduled.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 01:51 PM (EjlXc)

240 @ELINTNews

#BREAKING: More reports the US Embassy in Baghdad is under mortar attack as we speak

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 01:51 PM (cF8AT)

241 Yeah remember, when you buy an electric car, the 10k expense of the batteries looms on the near horizon. Have you ever seen a used electric car for sale? Anywhere?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:51 PM (39g3+)

242 There's always the problem of where to draw the boundary around 'energy inputs'. For example: do you include the food energy needed for the workers to produce the solar panels? The 'no' case: that food energy fuels people, not manufacturing. The 'yes' case: those solar panels don't get built without it. (I'm in the 'yes' camp in this example.)

--

I'm fine with either, but it has to be the same for both items being compared.

I'm just sort of wondering how many months, and using how many acres of the same solar panels, it would take to run one solar panel factory for one eight hour shift.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:52 PM (EOEiY)

243 236 Colorado's rich in gas and oil (not shale) and a majority (read: Denver metro) of voters in the state want it closed down.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2019 01:49 PM (5+4v7)


I consider CO and NY a reserve.
If we do start running low we will raid them.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (7cJE3)

244 >>Sure, there's a greater effort and more money being spent now but its not like battery research and efficiency has not increased over the interim. People were working on making better batteries and more readily rechargable ones long before this sudden push for electric cars.

As I said above, solar energy is gated by the same problem as electric vehicles and there is an arms race type effort being put on battery technology right now that dwarfs previous investments.

So much of what we do in modern life like laptops, tablets, cell phones, etc., is battery dependent and the demand for more power, longer life and smaller footprint is increasing in leaps and bounds.

Over 30% of homes in Australia get at least some of their energy from solar and the number is growing rapidly. China is by far the biggest overall user of solar and the developing world is using it in increasing amounts. Hell, Saudi Arabia is building the biggest solar farm in the world to power their new city of the future.

When the economics of electric vehicles increases so will the popularity. It's not magic, just math.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (/tuJf)

245 And that's exactly my point.

He does it all while owning another car for when he needs a real car.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

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I'm not seeing your point at all.

I guess if you buy an electric car, your wife is supposed to get rid of hers to prove its actually functional?

Look, if you drive hundreds of miles a day, electric cars aren't going to work for you. No argument there.

But most people drive something like under 30 miles a day. They can make an electric car work for them.

I don't own a pickup any longer, I borrow one when I need it. That doesn't mean my gas-powered sedan I commute in is not really functional for basic transportation if it fits my needs 99% of the time.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (UfkIY)

246 228 (221) Add in all of the Cu/Al conductors to distribute said juice. Slide rule time...

Posted by: klaftern at May 19, 2019 01:46 PM (RuIsu)

Wait, you mean I can't use my smartphone charger to charge my Tesla?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (3hr5B)

247 I don't even trust batteries now. Twice I've had a car battery die dead while still under warranty.

My mom's car battery died, I think it was just 2 years old. Its not like she left the lights on all the time or anything, hell she only drove the thing once a week.

I find it hilarious not only was Obama's Volt killed, but they ended up closing the factory where it was made.

The volt was a crappy electric car, the same year it came out Nissan put out the Leaf and it was way better. GM just isn't a good car company.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:54 PM (39g3+)

248 I'd like a cheap battery for a golf cart to put around in, without noise and little engine maintenance. The lithium batteries are still rather costly ... but nice for drills and hedge trimmers, even 10' pole saws.

Solar still seems cool in concept, in that I can "make my own power" at home, not have to get it delivered and explode it in some device. But unless they come up with cheaper batteries, it is still too expensive.

Serious Work (plowing, shipping, construction) will utilize oil/gas for a long time ... drill baby drill.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2019 01:54 PM (Cus5s)

249
That guy's cri de coeur is a priceless example of the liberal genre. I think he was having his period when he wrote this POS.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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Please, let me live long enough to see these people face their blasted dreams of doom. The kids occupying Dianne Feinstein's office, AOC and her idiot minions, the censors of sense, the elites of big tech and big Hollywood.

"Hey everyone, it's January 1 2030 and we're all here and everything's fine and the internal combustion engines are still humming! Where's that Doom you wanted to spend 100 trillion dollars on?"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 19, 2019 01:54 PM (13CQC)

250 Trey Gowdy is all hat with no cattle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 01:38 PM (Z+IKu)

Fuck that guy in particular.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 01:54 PM (AwVzI)

251 Colorado's rich in gas and oil (not shale) and a majority (read: Denver metro) of voters in the state want it closed down.

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Party like it's 1599!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 01:55 PM (+y/Ru)

252 Wait, you mean I can't use my smartphone charger to charge my Tesla?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (3hr5B)

If yo have an Iphone, you cannot always use it to charge your smartphone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 01:55 PM (ycWCI)

253 Uh ... don't almost all birds, except for owls, roost at night? Birds pretty much always operate under VFR.

I don't really get it either, they're acting like birds are moths and if they hit a wire, they die. They don't: they aren't moving fast enough and are light enough it doesn't hurt them very badly. That's why they can full speed it into your window and after being stunned a while, fly away.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:37 PM (39g3+)


Imagine how many birds are killed colliding with trees. Those things are everywhere.

- AOC

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:55 PM (1g7ch)

254 221 That's 24kw PER STATION

Oh, and it gets better!

I can't find the info on Tesla's website currently, but ~3yrs ago one of my students dug into their numbers and figured out that the majority of the electricity with which Tesla powers its charging stations was at that point generated by ...

...

...

...

coal.

Bwahahaha!

Posted by: crisis du jour at May 19, 2019 01:56 PM (L8DUW)

255 #BREAKING: More reports the US Embassy in Baghdad is under mortar attack as we speak
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 01:51 PM (cF8AT)

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Where are you seeing this?

Mortars landing in or near the IZ?

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 01:56 PM (RU4sa)

256 I'm so sick of crappy weather. Next weekend is Memorial Day and it's not going to get over 60 for the week.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 01:56 PM (kRPTw)

257 GM just isn't a good car company.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:54 PM (39g3+)

I think they do fine with mature technology. They just don't have much innovation in them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2019 01:57 PM (wYseH)

258 I'm just sort of wondering how many months, and using how many acres of the same solar panels, it would take to run one solar panel factory for one eight hour shift.

Would have to be a pretty vast solar farm to run a whole factory. But its doable, in the right area. Nevada, for example. Most of the state is wasteland, you may as well put up solar farms. Of course you need a ton of water to make solar panels so that's gonna be a challenge.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 01:57 PM (39g3+)

259 Not many convincing facts about electric cars that I can see in that post.
Posted by: dDan

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It's an opinion blog, what did you expect?

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:58 PM (UfkIY)

260 Where are you seeing this?

Mortars landing in or near the IZ?

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 01:56 PM (RU4sa)

Twitter:

#BREAKING: warning sirens in the vicinity of the #US. Embassy in the Green Zone, #Baghdad

Breaking: a rocket was launched 10 minutes ago possibly toward the U.S embassy in Baghdad. Launch location the Amana bridge in Baghdad

#BREAKING: Blast heard in central #Baghdad, close to government buildings and foreign embassies. #Iraq #US

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 01:58 PM (cF8AT)

261 I'm not seeing your point at all.

I guess if you buy an electric car, your wife is supposed to get rid of hers to prove its actually functional? ...

But most people drive something like under 30 miles a day. They can make an electric car work for them.

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Absolutely, but they don't. That's the point. If they did then more buyers would only have one electric vehicle as their only vehicle, because I'm certain there are millions upon millions of $40K-$110K Audi, BMW, etc. drivers living in urban areas, driving fewer than 100 miles most days, who only have one car.

I'm not saying anyone has to get rid of anything. God bless America, spend your money on whatever you want. It's just a fact that they are second and third (and fourth, and fifth) vehicles that are status symbols or fast toys for affluent buyers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 01:59 PM (EOEiY)

262
#BREAKING: More reports the US Embassy in Baghdad is under mortar attack as we speak


George Bush's legacy.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 01:59 PM (SGnpG)

263 But most people drive something like under 30 miles a day.


Is this a fact?
How many people drive more than thirty miles a day?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 01:59 PM (7cJE3)

264 But unless they come up with cheaper batteries, it is still too expensive.

Well, and your gas tank doesn't need to be replaced once every 6-10 years at a huge expense either. That's a serious hill to get over, no matter how good batteries get. Longer lasting is super important as well. You can get a car from the TWENTIES that has its original running engine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:00 PM (39g3+)

265 Thanks Tami.

The Amana bridge brings back memories, heh.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 02:00 PM (RU4sa)

266
I wish I drove under 30 miles a day. I drive about 70 a day, in traffic, which is over 2 hours a day.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 19, 2019 02:01 PM (SGnpG)

267 But most people drive something like under 30 miles a day.

I wonder how true that is. 30 miles just to get to work is not shocking in LA and a ton of people live there.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:01 PM (39g3+)

268 My mom's car battery died, I think it was just 2 years old. Its not like she left the lights on all the time or anything, hell she only drove the thing once a week.

If she only drives once a week she should consider picking up a small solar panel, putting it in the windshield of the car, and connecting it to the OBD port in the passenger compartment to trickle-charge the battery. Keeping a battery charged greatly increases its lifetime; the charge/discharge cycles are what promote the sulfating of lead acid batteries, and the growth of "whiskers" (crystals) that short out cells.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:01 PM (YqDXo)

269 263>> 42 miles to work. Each way.....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 02:02 PM (AwVzI)

270 Imagine how many birds are killed colliding with trees. Those things are everywhere.

- AOC

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 19, 2019 01:55 PM (1g7ch)


I'm always concerned about the number of dead birds that pile up under all those high voltage transmission lines carrying hundreds of kilovolts of electricity!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:02 PM (3hr5B)

271 I remember reading one of Shell's supplements in Readers Digest in late 70s where they said we had more shale oil out West than Saudi Arabia has in the ground.

The only problem being that it was harder to extract. The process they described was fracking but it wasn't called that then.

They said cost was the barrier and oil would have to be about $85/bbl to make it worthwhile.

This was 40 years ago. I have listened to oil experts tell me in the 90s that we had hit peak oil.

Experts.

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 02:03 PM (JMkM+)

272 265 Thanks Tami.

The Amana bridge brings back memories, heh.

Posted by: SMH at May 19, 2019 02:00 PM (RU4sa)

Probably does to my son too...


@ConflictsW 1 minute ago

Iraqi security forces have closed the green zone and are now combing the area
#Iraq #Baghdad

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 02:03 PM (cF8AT)

273 So a two hour traffic jam in 95 degree temperatures would require running the air conditioner while essentially stopped pretty much the whole two hours, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:03 PM (EOEiY)

274 I have worked in the industry for most of my career. One, windmills would not exist without subsidies, that is the reason they are built. Two, once more pipeline capacity is built, Texas will become the worlds largest producer by itself. Third, electric cars will never make a dent in the transport sector because they cannot compete on range, cost, or reliability.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2019 02:04 PM (0xCxv)

275 I like shale. I especially like that it is helping PA and hurting NY. I know people who live in NY and can't frack who are watching the directional drillers in PA making a good living.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 19, 2019 02:05 PM (Jj+59)

276 @264
I suspect that a lot of people who can afford to buy an electric car don't see the batrery replacement cost as an issue. This is because I suspect that many of them don't expect to still own the car when the battery dies.
Smart attitude? Probably not.
But I suspect it's true, regardless.

Posted by: junior at May 19, 2019 02:05 PM (Fp6vo)

277 Because of that fat bastard CHRISTIE, the gas is cheaper for me on base at West Point the in NJ

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:05 PM (Y+V3r)

278 I've told this story before: Driving from Mesquite to Las Vegas there are plenty of billboards with ads for the thrills and chills of Las Vegas. One section has dozens of billboards each attached with solar panels so they could be lit up at night. The several times I made that drive, at night, none of them worked. Mile after mile of darkened billboards. Kinda eerie, really.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 02:05 PM (EjlXc)

279 Well, and your gas tank doesn't need to be replaced once every 6-10 years at a huge expense either. That's a serious hill to get over, no matter how good batteries get. Longer lasting is super important as well. You can get a car from the TWENTIES that has its original running engine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:00 PM (39g3+)


To be fair I have had to replace gas tanks in two of my trucks, but that was over decades of service.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:06 PM (3hr5B)

280 I have looked at electric cars but the cost is much higher the horse power sucks so I am not seeing the advantage

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:06 PM (Y+V3r)

281 GMC: generally made crap.

General Motors always sucked on the govt teat.
They readily threw in with FDR and his communist/union take over of the vehicle industry.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:06 PM (7cJE3)

282 There's a lot of peak oil experts on Zero Hedge. Ha ha.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 19, 2019 02:06 PM (Jj+59)

283 Solar is sort of a joke to provide a meaningful part of the energy grid.

You're going to need nuclear power if most cars go electric.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 02:07 PM (UfkIY)

284 The Yankees are pitching high schoolers today. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:08 PM (Y+V3r)

285 @BreakingNLive 2 minutes ago

UPDATE: Green Zone in Baghdad, Iraq has been shut down by Iraqi forces, who are now combing the area. As per initial reports, it does not appear that U.S. embassy was hit. The projectiles likely landed very close to the embassy. No injuries being reported as of now - @Natsecjeff

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 02:08 PM (cF8AT)

286 278 and then there is that hideous solar farm from Vegas into Cali. I forget where. It's been a few years. Wonder how many birds it burns up per year.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 02:08 PM (kRPTw)

287 It's not magic, just math.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (/tuJf)
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They said there would be no math here.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 02:08 PM (aXucN)

288 What makes me angry is that my tax dollars are being spent to put up windmills that cannot be viable on their own, while natural gas is being flared off instead of used to make electricity much more efficiently.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2019 02:09 PM (0xCxv)

289 A lot of people look at cars these days the same way they look at a cell phone. They will replace it in a few years.

I find it kind of fitting that the same people who decry consumerist, disposable culture are now looking to turn cars into disposable items.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:10 PM (ycWCI)

290 Chiquita Khrushchev on terrorism and the lack thereof:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
When a mass shooting is committed by a Muslim, the crime is almost automatically labeled as Domestic Terrorism.

But when White Supremacists like Dylann Roof shot up a black church, or attack the Tree of Life Synagogue, the FBI declined to charge them w/ Domestic Terrorism.

Why?


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Replying to @AOC
White Supremacists get charged w hate crimes. Muslims get charged w terrorism.

This is a HUGE difference. Hate crimes are underreported, deprioritized, + aren't treated as seriously as domestic terror charges.

Yet in the US, Neo-Nazi violence far outnumbers Islamic extremism.

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Why don't you name a few of those neo-Nazi crimes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 02:10 PM (+y/Ru)

291 I have listened to oil experts tell me in the 90s that we had hit peak oil.

Experts.

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 02:03 PM (JMkM+)



You weren't listening to George Mitchell.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:10 PM (7cJE3)

292 If she only drives once a week she should consider picking up a small solar panel, putting it in the windshield of the car, and connecting it to the OBD port in the passenger compartment to trickle-charge the battery.

That's actually a really good idea, I wonder how expensive that would run. She has a little Camry from the 1990s and literally drives it once a week to the store, although lately she hasn't driven it much.

To be fair I have had to replace gas tanks in two of my trucks, but that was over decades of service.

Well, and they didn't cost $6000 plus labor to replace either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:10 PM (39g3+)

293 "Imagine how many birds are killed colliding with trees. Those things are everywhere.
- AOC"

I was sitting in a high place once, in the open, and one bird chasing another flew close by ... they really do hit the trees. Besides it being really cool to watch, that was what I noticed ... but they can see the wires. Wind turbine blades though ... those are bird choppers.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2019 02:11 PM (Cus5s)

294 It's an opinion blog, what did you expect?

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 01:58 PM (UfkIY)
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No problem. You stated your opinion and I stated mine.

Posted by: dDan at May 19, 2019 02:11 PM (hwYmz)

295 287 It's not magic, just math.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 01:53 PM (/tuJf)


Math IS magic, if you are a Moron.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:11 PM (ycWCI)

296 The results of a medical study conducted over 40 years and released Friday has determined that drinking beer every day is healthier for you than being dead.

Posted by: Moron News YOU Can Use at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM (DMUuz)

297 Response was, buy a Prius, if the battery goes down it'll still get close to the same gas mileage. The others won't.

That sounds like a smart purchase for a hybrid but a really dumb idea overall. But green _ and delusional.

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We bought a Prius 5 years ago. So far I've changed the oil every 10K mi and put new tires on. That's it in 87K mi.

I would argue that a Prius is the most conservative vehicle you can buy. Is it for everyone? No, but it sure meets most people's needs.

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM (WETLn)

298 38 It's comical that you can search for



how many solar panels does it take to produce a single solar panel...
Here's anudder one! How many solar panels does it take to manufacture the truck, the batteries, motors and the vehicle components, that will carry the solar panels from their point of manufacture to the place where they will be installed? Same question for wind turbines. I guess we could say, discuss among yourselves.

Posted by: George V at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM (LUHWu)

299 The thing is, (I don't know quite how to put this rather inchoate thought) electricity is a relatively feeble form of power, compared to chemistry.

Consider producing 23 g of sodium metal by electrolysis (of, e.g., molten NaCl). Now 23 g of Na (1 mole) is less than an ounce. How much electrical current would be required for that electrolysis?

Answer: one Faraday of charge, 96,500 coulombs. One coulomb is an amp-sec, so if we're talking about a 20 amp circuit, that would require 4825 seconds, or 80 minutes. To produce two-thirds of an ounce of Na metal.

This is why some of the most sensitive analytical chemistry techniques involve electrochemistry. Even a miniscule amount of analyte requires an easily measured amount of electricity.

Pardon the garbled assertion above, a more elegant exposition of which eludes me, but a relatively small amount of a chemical compound corresponds to a LOT of electricity. With obvious implications for gasoline- vs. battery-powered vehicles.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM (YqDXo)

300 I was sitting in a high place once, in the open, and one bird chasing another flew close by ... they really do hit the trees.

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There's a hawk called a Coopers hawk that hunts in heavily wooded areas. I don't remember the exact number, but something like 80%+ of the ones that have been tagged, rehabilitated, etc. show evidence of multiple breaks of bones in their wings and chests from constantly smashing into branches and trees at speed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:14 PM (EOEiY)

301 >>Solar is sort of a joke to provide a meaningful part of the energy grid.

Under the current architecture of the grid. There has been a movement around the world to move toward more distributed, less centralized power generation although the US currently lags.

As the technology is evolving it makes more sense to generate power closer to the demand instead of having huge, centralized plants with massive distribution networks. Microgrid technology is coming on strong.

I don't have a prejudice for or against any one technology, they all have applications for specific areas. The problem comes in when people try to push technologies in areas they were never designed to address like pretending windmills and solar are going to magically replace our current power infrastructure.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:14 PM (/tuJf)

302 I still like McCain's idea of a nationwide push to build 100 nuclear plants. It was so sensible, I could not believe he was supporting it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:15 PM (ycWCI)

303 >>Wind turbine blades though ... those are bird choppers.



Stupid question: are they sucked in if they get too close?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:15 PM (W+vEI)

304
Colorado's rich in gas and oil (not shale) and a majority (read: Denver metro) of voters in the state want it closed down.


Good! Let the other producers and refiners refuse to deliver gas and oil to the little purist pr*cks in CO as well as power from out-of-state plants. They can live their Utopian dream to the max.

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 19, 2019 02:16 PM (u5LFV)

305 I would argue that a Prius is the most conservative vehicle you can buy. Is it for everyone? No, but it sure meets most people's needs.

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It's funny that the Prius is hated by the environmental folks for the same reason the Volt was.

It has an engine.

It doesn't matter that it's an almost perfect tradeoff using current technology while new tech is developed, or that it's a usable car that can be driven more than a couple of hundred miles a day (or can sit in traffic jams), or that it has gotten millions of people out of their horrible SUVs or whatever, but it still has an engine so it is still bad.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:17 PM (EOEiY)

306 Hey is there a more vile disloyal cock sucker then Romney? Almost makes McCain look loyal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2019 02:17 PM (Y+V3r)

307 Juan Williams is smart enough to be the token on the Guttfield Show - barely.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 19, 2019 02:17 PM (Jj+59)

308 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM (YqDXo)

Toss that sodium in water.....for a much more entertaining demonstration of chemical reactivity.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 02:17 PM (AwVzI)

309 Stupid question: are they sucked in if they get too close?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:15 PM (W+vEI)

Thinking about this without looking it up, I would say no.

The turbine is not powered on it's own, so it is not producing a pressure differential, it is being pushed by the existing wind (existing pressure.)

I think the bird just either does not see the blade or does not expect it to move.

This is just a layman's theory.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 19, 2019 02:18 PM (ycWCI)

310 I'm pretty sure Trey Gowdy is a fag, NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 19, 2019 02:18 PM (Jj+59)

311 a relatively small amount of a chemical compound corresponds to a LOT of electricity.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM


Ja. E=mc².

Posted by: zombie Albert E. at May 19, 2019 02:19 PM (DMUuz)

312 Posted by: Grannymimi at May 19, 2019 02:16 PM (u5LFV)

Not everyone in CO votes like or lives in or around Denver.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 02:19 PM (kRPTw)

313 I enjoyed driving through Pennsylvania and seeing every third or fourth big-ass windmill sitting idle because it was apparently broken.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:19 PM (EOEiY)

314 286 278 and then there is that hideous solar farm from Vegas into Cali. I forget where.

San Gorgonio Pass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:19 PM (YqDXo)

315 No problem. You stated your opinion and I stated mine.
Posted by: dDan

_________

Your only contribution is you don't like my opinion. Bravo

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 02:19 PM (UfkIY)

316 San Gorgonio Pass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Thanks.

Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 02:20 PM (kRPTw)

317 I love frakking. It hurts all the right people
- the Russians
- the Iranians
- the Saudis
- the Venezuelans

Posted by: chuckR at May 19, 2019 02:21 PM (bRvKP)

318 Stupid question: are they sucked in if they get too close?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:15 PM (W+vEI)


No, there is no intake, but the tips of the blades can be moving at 100+ mph which nature did not equip the birdies to expect, so "WHAP!" and presto dead bird!
I've heard windmills are sometimes called coyote buffets!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:21 PM (3hr5B)

319 I've heard windmills are sometimes called coyote buffets!

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Ha. Say, did I see you mention a Bentley above? Can I ask a year?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:21 PM (EOEiY)

320 I've heard windmills are sometimes called coyote buffets!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:21 PM (3hr5B)

They never have enough squirrel out.

Posted by: Coyote at the buffet at May 19, 2019 02:22 PM (ycWCI)

321 316 San Gorgonio Pass.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Thanks.
Posted by: Infidel at May 19, 2019 02:20 PM (kRPTw)


My pleasure. Where half of the wind turbines are no longer operational, and just sit there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

322 It's funny that the Prius is hated by the environmental folks for the same reason the Volt was.

It has an engine.


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Right? And that horrible, awful, no good combination will let me drive 500+ miles on a 10 gallon tank of regular gas. The humanity!

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:23 PM (WETLn)

323 When I worked at the falcon hospital, the BOPs were always getting broken feathers replaced. even a few broken primaries can make it impossible to catch their food. Broken bones not so much.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 19, 2019 02:24 PM (Jj+59)

324 've heard windmills are sometimes called coyote buffets!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:21 PM

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They never have enough squirrel out.
Posted by: Coyote at the buffet at May 19, 2019 02:22 PM


And they're always out of roadrunner, for some reason.

Posted by: Wily E. at May 19, 2019 02:24 PM (DMUuz)

325 My Wife's cousin has been in the Shale Oil business since the 70's here in Ohio/PA and it's been good.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 19, 2019 02:24 PM (dKiJG)

326 Microgrid technology, yes, in the future planned neighborhood developers will feature it's own power (mini nuclear plant?) generating system.
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Pardon the garbled assertion above, a more elegant exposition of which eludes me, but a relatively small amount of a chemical compound corresponds to a LOT of electricity. With obvious implications for gasoline- vs. battery-powered vehicles.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:12 PM (YqDXo)



Took a course in DOS about a year after Windox came out. The instructor said it would never achieve the stated goals because it was impossible to create the memory storage necessary.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:24 PM (7cJE3)

327
Until and unless a power source is found/invented that fully eclipses every advantage enjoyed by the IC engine, it's what we'll be tooling around in for the foreseeable future, like it or not.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 19, 2019 02:25 PM (KATBx)

328 I suspect that a lot of people who can afford to buy
an electric car don't see the batrery replacement cost as an issue.
This is because I suspect that many of them don't expect to still own
the car when the battery dies.
Smart attitude? Probably not.
But I suspect it's true, regardless.





Posted by: junior at May 19, 2019 02:05 PM

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We owned a Ford Fusion Hybrid. Loved the car and loved the City mileage, but they do have hidden costs.

The first I noticed about the hidden costs was when our car tax bill came in and the tax on the hybrid was almost $200 lower than it was the year before. Come to find out once you pass the five year mark on hybrids the value of the car starts to plummet because you are getting close to having to replace the battery.


This was quite a few years ago, but to replace the battery in that car was over $9,000 with all of the fees and costs associated with it. Pretty sure it isn't as much now.


As soon as I found that out, I traded the car in on a Honda CR-V even though it only had 65,000 miles on it and we liked the car.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 02:25 PM (JUOKG)

329 Right? And that horrible, awful, no good combination will let me drive 500+ miles on a 10 gallon tank of regular gas. The humanity!

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:23 PM (WETLn)

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And IIRC some of the newer models have an electric-only option for up to ten miles or so. Exactly what urban dwellers need and can use.

Pretty much a perfect tradeoff, and also reasonably priced.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (EOEiY)

330 >>@AOC
Replying to @AOC
White Supremacists get charged w hate crimes. Muslims get charged w terrorism.

This is a HUGE difference. Hate crimes are underreported, deprioritized, + aren't treated as seriously as domestic terror charges.

Yet in the US, Neo-Nazi violence far outnumbers Islamic extremism.
- - - -
Let's play fast and loose with statistics and labels, huh?

First, "hate" crimes are a broad range of crimes, since it's essentially a charge for the animating emotions of the criminal. A hate crime of scrawling a swastika on a bathroom stall =/= hate crime of pushing an elderly man off a bus, or shooting up a church.

Terrorism has an ever-decreasing definitional scope of being a member of a terrorist group and carrying it out with the assistance and coordination of your terror group. We've been told again and again that one guy "self-radicalizing" himself by watching ISIS stuff on youtube is =/= terrorism.

And then there's that ridiculous "Nazi" labeling, which is just . . .*throws hands up in the air*

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (W+vEI)

331 It's not the engine of the Prius I have a problem with. It's the shame of being seen in one.

They are the Crocs of automobiles.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (/tuJf)

332 Isn't fracking, in general, the driving force behind this new production? Not just shale fracking.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (yQpMk)

333 Ha. Say, did I see you mention a Bentley above? Can I ask a year?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:21 PM (EOEiY)


My apologies, I should have put a /sarc tag in the Bentley sentence!

I just wish I had one.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (3hr5B)

334 The gas business would be a lot better if it went back to 7 bucks instead of 2.61

Posted by: Jake from State Farm at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (Jj+59)

335 It's funny that the Prius is hated by the environmental folks for the same reason the Volt was.

It has an engine.


So they won't be happy until we go to donkey carts?

Well, we're importing a lot of people who are familiar with their use, for what that's worth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:27 PM (YqDXo)

336 Hasn't it been shown that something like 184 of the 231 Nazis in the US are undercover FBI agents?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:27 PM (EOEiY)

337 Environmentalists never really have an answer to just the manufacturing material it would take to make an energy grid powered by windmills and solar panels. If you drive through Palm Springs in So Ca, it's astonishing how many windmills are there, and it only powers like 4% of california.

Versus just a nuclear plant about the size of a couple Costcos.

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 02:28 PM (UfkIY)

338 My apologies, I should have put a /sarc tag in the Bentley sentence!

I just wish I had one.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (3hr5B)

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No, it's fine. I'm a sucker for British cars, and the Horde is wild and varied, so I had no reason to believe otherwise. Older models are really cheap, too, because it turns out that hand-hammered body panels are extremely expensive to repair even after laughably minor fender benders when the high schooler behind you is texting her friends at the stoplight.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:30 PM (EOEiY)

339 Terrorism has an ever-decreasing definitional scope of being a member of a terrorist group and carrying it out with the assistance and coordination of your terror group. We've been told again and again that one guy "self-radicalizing" himself by watching ISIS stuff on youtube is =/= terrorism.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:26 PM (W+vEI)


One of the things that has escaped AOC - it's a long list - is that terrorism is defined as violence toward achieving a political end.

So random nutjob shooting up some place for non-political reasons is NOT terrorism. Shooting up a place to push for sharia or other Muslim crap IS terrorism, because it's motivation is political (i.e., to affect public policy).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:30 PM (YqDXo)

340 Hydrogen flammability in air is 4%. Liquid hydrogen is stored at 36 degrees F above ABSOLUTE zero. A gallon (by volume) of gasoline has four times the energy as a gallon of LH2. LH2 expands to 850 times it's volume when evaporating.

LH2 distribution to even provide a minimum infrastructure for H2 fuel cells will cost a fortune not to mention the safety factor during a crash.

Posted by: pawn at May 19, 2019 02:30 PM (ti2yD)

341 it's --> its

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:31 PM (YqDXo)

342 A Prius driven by a neighbor drove over my mom's cat while he was sunbathing on the driveway. Even cats can't hear them, but in all fairness to the poor kitty, the narrow driveway cuts through my parent's back yard so it looks like it is a path in the woods, and neighbor drives like her ass is on fire. So even if the car was a gas guzzling suv like the one I drive, he might still have gotten run over if it was driven as fast as that Prius.

So, the kitty lived, but had spinal damage. After the incident, his tail didn't work and he had a noticeable limp until he died peacefully a few years later.

Posted by: squeakywheel at May 19, 2019 02:32 PM (qcX7A)

343 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:31 PM (YqDXo)

That was in reference to my #339, where I saw the booboo on reading the finished comment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:32 PM (YqDXo)

344 That's my hangup with a lot of interesting cars, frankly. Aston Martins, Bentleys, Lamborghinis, etc. can be had for the price of a middle of the road BMW, but the care and feeding is prohibitively expensive.

Maybe if I were in this position as a 25 year old I'd be foolish enough to take it on, but no longer. When the actuators/motors/mechanism for a convertible top costs as much as a nice used car...

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:33 PM (EOEiY)

345 AOC truly is dull-witted.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2019 02:34 PM (YqDXo)

346 >>So random nutjob shooting up some place for non-political reasons is NOT terrorism. Shooting up a place to push for sharia or other Muslim crap IS terrorism, because it's motivation is political (i.e., to affect public policy).


"Yeah, but all those guys are Nazis!"
-- AOC

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 02:35 PM (W+vEI)

347 336 Hasn't it been shown that something like 184 of the 231 Nazis in the US are undercover FBI agents?

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:27 PM (EOEiY)


And nowadays we gotta wonder how sketchy the FBI guys are.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (sdi6R)

348 Your only contribution is you don't like my opinion. Bravo

Posted by: Blago at May 19, 2019 02:19 PM (UfkIY)
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You are correct and my apologies. The post struck me wrong.


I'm glad you and your family like the car.

Doesn't mean it's the future, doesn't mean it's not either. Lot's of problems to be worked out.

Posted by: dDan at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (hwYmz)

349 It's not magic, just math.

Some days I wish language were as dangerous to play with as chemicals.

Yes, yes of course. Top men have been working on batteries for over a hundred years, with improvement best described as "incremental." BUT, if the sudden magic of doubling or tripling their capacity should magically happen tomorrow magic morning after the application of magic amounts of my money, most certainly, just like math, more people will use them.

That's just a lie with the word "math" in it.
The kind of crap that gives math a bad name, century after century.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 02:38 PM (8ZmvG)

350 And nowadays we gotta wonder how sketchy the FBI guys are.
Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 02:36 PM (sdi6R)

A lot of them are actual Nazis- in the real sense. Maybe not in the white power, racist sense, but in the black leather coat, show up in the middle of the night sense.

Posted by: Coyote at the buffet at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (ycWCI)

351 On the whole, this sounds like the same kind of "expert analysis" that predicted the permanent stock market plunge after Trump was elected. Simply elitists spinning the facts to try to support whatever conclusion they want.

Oil is a critical, and therefore valuable, commodity, and with the majority of the conventional oil already having been tapped, shale oil can only become the primary source of oil as time goes on.

All booms eventually come to an end, so predicting such a thing is like predicting that we'll have a hurricane within the next few years.

But "Peal Oil" hasn't really been refuted at all, at least not the original idea put forward in a 74 page paper many decades ago. If you read it, as I have, you'd know what it actually says, and what it says is really not radical. Unless you can prove that the Earth produces oil at a rate at least as high as we use it, the idea is simply that there's only so much (except on geologic time scales!), so the "area under the curve" is finite, and so that curve will have a maximum. It's straitforward math.

The nonsense comes in as what implications are to be drawn, from this simple math - the political agendas. In reality, what it really means is that we ought to stop screwing around, and come up with a radically new form of nuclear energy that really is virtually inexhaustible. Oddly, nobody seems to talk about that, when in reality it should be common knowledge. The only debate is whether it takes 50 years or 100, before energy starts to become a luxury, and we either kill each other off in mass, or go back to the Stone Age.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (hOOi9)

352 Where batteries shine?

Power tools and stuff around the house. Weedeaters, shop lights, etc.

That's where I'm glad to have modern battery technology.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (EOEiY)

353 OCD is a hellava disorder.

Posted by: pawn at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (ti2yD)

354 I still like McCain's idea of a nationwide push to build 100 nuclear plants. It was so sensible, I could not believe he was supporting it.

I think he had that while running for president. He said a lot of good ideas while running for president and only then, because I'm pretty sure he was getting good advice and tips on what people like then but didn't believe in or would have done any of it.

But yeah. The nation needs more nukes, at least ten. Every mega city should have its own reactor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (39g3+)

355 It's not the cost of a thing it's the functionality.

When an energy cell is developed that can truly compete with gasoline as a fuel people will buy it.
Rich people will buy it first because of the novelty and exclusivity. That will provide money for mass production and innovation allowing the product to refined and reduced in cost for mass consumption.

When it is developed.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (7cJE3)

356 Also I recently learned that Home Depot's house brand "Ridgid" has a lifetime guarantee on their batteries for their power tools. Register the tool and battery over the phone or internet and when the battery won't charge anymore they'll send you another for free.

When I heard that I stopped looking at pretty much all other competitors.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:41 PM (EOEiY)

357 I think the main beefs conservatives have with electric cars is that they are

1) newish (this new wave of them at least)
2) super beloved and pushed by radical leftists

So its a kind of kneejerk reaction, curmudgeonly. It makes us immediately suspicious or opposed.

But there are serious problems with the things, upon closer examination. I always laugh out loud when an electric car owner thinks they're saving money over paying for gas. Even if you don't factor in the cost of battery replacement, you're not because of the huge up front cost.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:42 PM (39g3+)

358 Some of those lifetime warranties don't refer to your lifetime, they refer to the life of the company issuing the warranty.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 02:42 PM (w7KSn)

359 Hey youse guys, there's a nood

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 19, 2019 02:42 PM (WETLn)

360 >>That's just a lie with the word "math" in it.
The kind of crap that gives math a bad name, century after century.

Nonsense. Billions upon billions have been poured into the internal combustion based automobile industry around the world for those same hundred years with the express purpose of making them more efficient and powerful. And look where we are.

A tiny fraction of the money spent on that has been poured into advanced battery technology. Most development was improvements to lead acid technologies which represented marginal gains on a stable technology.

Current development is on replacements for lithium ion and similar technologies which have massive limitations including being unstable and extremely difficult to extinguish when they burn.

Generational breakthroughs are how massive gains are made whether it's in cars, computers, rockets, airplanes, etc. And none of that happens without massive amounts of R&D spending. And when the benefits outweigh the costs thats when technologies are more widely adopted.

Some days I wish people thought more.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (/tuJf)

361 If you want to argue long term, no electricity should be generated by fossil fuels, even coal. Hydro and nuclear only, so you can save the coal for synthetic oil a few centuries from now.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (yQpMk)

362 Also I recently learned that Home Depot's house brand "Ridgid" has a lifetime guarantee on their batteries for their power tools. Register the tool and battery over the phone or internet and when the battery won't charge anymore they'll send you another for free.

When I heard that I stopped looking at pretty much all other competitors.
Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 02:41 PM


Lots of hoops to be jumped through to claim, unfortunately.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (DMUuz)

363 Ridged used to be a quality product, don't know about the present. Ryobi used to be the house brand.

I bought a Ryobi set and would grade them average/OK, adequate+ for home owner use.
I have worked Makita and at the time they were tough.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (7cJE3)

364 I have worked Makita and at the time they were tough.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:49 PM (7cJE3)


I really liked the Makita stuff.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 02:51 PM (3hr5B)

365 My cousin operates a business that supports energy discoveries/exploration and has operated all over the US and Canada. He doesn't extract, just helps companies find deposits. He told me, "there's so much goddamn oil out there, you can't believe it." It all boils down to how much it costs to get it out of the ground - the break even point. Some is more expensive to extract than others. We may have gotten most of the "easy" (and cheap) stuff, but there's lots more. He doesn't think we'll ever run out - at least not before science gives us new energy sources like fusion or whatever.

Posted by: Mongoose at May 19, 2019 02:52 PM (AeNGk)

366 He told me, "there's so much goddamn oil out there, you can't believe it."


San Francisco Bay? Where they had the oil spill.
More oil, annually, seeps up because of pressure and floats to the beach than washed up during the spill.

The platforms are still out there.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2019 02:57 PM (7cJE3)

367 But yeah. The nation needs more nukes, at least ten. Every mega city should have its own reactor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM (39g3+)

NYC has two (Indian Point 2, & 3. Reactor 1 is shutdown permanently). Which the owner is being pressured to close within the next two years Which takes 200 MW of generating capacity out of the picture. which is ~16% of ConEd's peak demand.

More Cuomo idiocy.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2019 02:59 PM (MwFQu)

368 My Uncle as Interior Dept lead geologist investigated the Monterey Oil shale formation in California in the 80's and found that at only a 20% recovery rate - standard for shale -, the Monterey had enough oil in it to make it the fourth or fifth largest oil field in the world. So forget about there not being enough oil - it's there, it's just the powers at be don't want to develop those fields.

Posted by: Unsk at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (Nz64U)

369 goes 100 miles on a charge

How far does it go at night with the lights and AC on? How long does it take to charge?

100 mile "Range" is ~ an hour and a half at highway speed. Which is less than human "range" (stop for restroom and stretch every 2 hours). Are there charging stations along I-70 and I-90 though western Missouri, Kansas, Colorado, Utah, Montana, Idaho, South Dakota, Minnesota, eastern Washington? Or are they as rare as a BMW SAV center?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 19, 2019 03:05 PM (MwFQu)

370 361 If you want to argue long term, no electricity should be generated by fossil fuels, even coal. Hydro and nuclear only, so you can save the coal for synthetic oil a few centuries from now.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2019 02:47 PM (yQpMk)


Indeed. Oil is a valuable thing - not just for electricity. Lubricating engines. Powering cars. Manufacturing plastics. The list is long.

Natural gas is so perfect for heating that it's also a "crime" to use THAT for generating electricity. Maybe at least we'll find out that natgas regenerates fairly quickly.

But the BIG problem is that nuclear power - as it stands today - has the same problem as oil & coal: there's only just so much uranium, etc. That's why I say we need RADICAL new forms of nuclear energy. For example, if we could get fusion energy going, we wouldn't need to worry about running out of hydogen molecules.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 19, 2019 03:12 PM (hOOi9)

371 I looked at getting a hybrid car back when they were "a thing" (maybe they still are). I didn't care if it was a big Leftist thing - I just looked to see if it would make sense, financially. I actually LIKE the idea of making use of the energy you simply throw away when you hit the brakes - it's just less wasteful.

I think they were about $6000 more at the time. There was just no way that I was going to save that much in gas over the life of the car, so it was a no-go.

But electric cars? That's such a joke it's not worth serious discussion. It would take a REVOLUTIONARY advancement in technology for THAT to be anything but a farce generated by Leftists lying to themselves and others. "Call me", when and IF that ever happens.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 19, 2019 03:19 PM (hOOi9)

372 But "Peal Oil" hasn't really been refuted at all, at
least not the original idea put forward in a 74 page paper many decades
ago. If you read it, as I have, you'd know what it actually says, and
what it says is really not radical. Unless you can prove that the Earth
produces oil at a rate at least as high as we use it, the idea is simply
that there's only so much (except on geologic time scales!), so the
"area under the curve" is finite, and so that curve will have a maximum.
It's straitforward math.



The nonsense comes in as what implications are to be drawn, from
this simple math - the political agendas. In reality, what it really
means is that we ought to stop screwing around, and come up with a
radically new form of nuclear energy that really is virtually
inexhaustible. Oddly, nobody seems to talk about that, when in reality
it should be common knowledge. The only debate is whether it takes 50
years or 100, before energy starts to become a luxury, and we either
kill each other off in mass, or go back to the Stone Age.



Posted by: Optimizer at May 19, 2019 02:39 PM

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Sorry, but Peak Oil theory has been disproven multiple times over the last few decades.

Peak Oil theory rests on two things. #1 Oil runs out. Oil has been "running out" since the first oil wells were drilled in PA. Peak Oil is just another scare like acid rain, killer bees, Y2K, global warming, the population bomb and the hole in the ozone layer.

Most of the Peak Oil doomsayer leaders are gone and one of them is casting horoscopes in Central America. All proven to be frauds.


Oil is not running out at current extraction levels and technology there is over 150 years worth of recoverable oil around the World. Plus technology changes and makes ever more oil recoverable. See fraking. Something else will come along in the future.


Plus we have about 500+ years worth of coal that can be turned into gasoline just laying around. The Germans managed to conduct the last 18 months of the war using coal liquefaction.



#2. Peak Oil theory sees the decline of civilization just a few short years after "peak oil" is reached. And we hit the stone age a couple of decades after that. Ain't gonna happen*


That is a dead horse.


*Barring a direct hit by SMOD.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 03:22 PM (JUOKG)

373 Willowed, but another potential energy source is orbiting satellites collecting solar energy and beaming it down to Earth by microwave. This has been discussed at least since the 1970s. Solar collectors in space would be far more efficient than those on Earth since the sunlight is not filtered and attenuated by the atmosphere.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 03:51 PM (sdi6R)

374 But electric cars? That's such a joke it's not worth serious discussion. It would take a REVOLUTIONARY advancement in technology for THAT to be anything but a farce generated by Leftists lying to themselves and others. "Call me", when and IF that ever happens.

Oh no, I find EVs far more compelling than hybrids.

In part because so many of the most notable hybrids are just Godawful ugly and were built to be distinctive and weird-looking. The whole Prius family should be wrapped in brown paper.

In part because the hybrid, despite the fact that many automakers have managed to make them quite reliable, are just very complex beasts. They have the packaging ills of the internal-combustion engine AND the packaging ills of an EV battery AND the powertrain complexity of putting both together.

An EV done properly is far simpler mechanically, can be structurally very different, can place the motors and batteries in locations unique to a pure EV, etc. Yes, at this point they're comparatively expensive largely due to battery cost, but if you've got 250 miles of range you've got 90% of daily use covered in pretty much every temperate part of the country.

Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2019 03:56 PM (8erNz)

375 Indeed. Oil is a valuable thing - not just for electricity. Lubricating engines. Powering cars. Manufacturing plastics. The list is long.

Natural gas is so perfect for heating that it's also a "crime" to use THAT for generating electricity. Maybe at least we'll find out that natgas regenerates fairly quickly.


Most synthetic oils (engine/transmission/axle/industrial) are partly or wholly made from natural gas.

Natural gas is the optimal energy-generation power source right now, it's cheap, it's clean, gas-fueled power plants are quick and cheap to permit and build, fuel handling is far easier than coal or any other fossil source.

Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2019 03:59 PM (8erNz)

376 Whale oil beef farts...........................Fracked an oily one there...clean up on oil cracking dino doo doo.

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 04:08 PM (5IHGB)

377 Shale Oil is the most popular boys name in Wyoming & South arabia.........

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 04:11 PM (5IHGB)

378 re: "the shale boom depended on huge amounts of debt that was doled out
without serious consideration for whether shale producers would be able
to pay it back." thus, "Why do the debts of an industry have any bearing on the future viability of that industry?"

Yes, and the article points out the Darwinism of the market, over-leveraged companies were bought out by bigger oil companies and consolidation is occurring. Other articles have observed the increasing productivity of shale production, more for less, thus most companies are now cash-flow positive.

Posted by: potadas at May 19, 2019 05:13 PM (PTCAE)

379 278 I've told this story before: Driving from Mesquite to Las Vegas there are plenty of billboards with ads for the thrills and chills of Las Vegas. One section has dozens of billboards each attached with solar panels so they could be lit up at night. The several times I made that drive, at night, none of them worked. Mile after mile of darkened billboards. Kinda eerie, really.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2019 02:05 PM (EjlXc)

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Illegal aliens stole the wires.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 19, 2019 06:29 PM (t5m5e)

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(h/t Hank Curmudgeon)



R.I.P. Herman Wouk

I didn't know he was still alive:

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Wouk was just 10 days shy of his 104th birthday and was working on a book until the end, said his literary agent Amy Rennert.

Rennert said Wouk died in his sleep at his home in Palm Springs, California, where he settled after spending many years in Washington, D.C.

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--A deeply moving firsthand account of a Titanic survivor.

--The riveting newspaper accounts of the 1893 Lizzie Borden trial.

--The story of the first woman to ride a bicycle around the world.

--Susan B. Anthony's fascinating and final 1905 in-depth interview.

--A fun interview with the quirky Eva Tanguay, the Queen of Vaudeville.

--The horrifying accounts of the 1903 Chicago theater fire that killed over 600 people.

--The tragic newspaper accounts of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

And that's just the first volume. There's also Volume 2, which focuses on crime and scandal stories, and also Volume 3. They're all reasonably priced at $2.99 and $3.99.


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Moron Recommendations

Candy for Breakfast, by Gwen Davenport, looks like it might be a fun read. I've had it recommended to me a couple of weeks ago by Bensdad00, who writes:

I found the book completely by accident. Upon learning the TV show Mr. Belvedere was actually based on a series of movies from the 1950's which were themselves based on a book, I went looking for the source. The library didn't have it and my purchase budget is low, so I tried this other novel by the author that they did have out of sheer curiosity - no inkling of its topic known. Aside from unavoidable anachronisms of time and place, every aspect of character and plot is recognizable today, and still going on.

1) Over-educated journalists passing themselves off as experts and overstating their credentials.

2) Progressive men who think they can take advantage of women and get away with it, who respond with anger rather than shame when caught, and chiefly worry that their actions will harm 'progress' if known.

3) An insistence on destroying societal norms - included unisex bathrooms and unmeasured educational progress.

4) bureaucratic interference in family life and the employment of children as informers.

Again, 1950.

In hindsight I'm surprised the library had a copy at all - it hasn't been banished as wrongthink yet.

You can read his GoodReads review here.

This book has been out of print for years, but you can buy used copies on Abebooks.com.

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I've been worming my way through 'Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds', by Charles Mackay. It was published in the 1850s, and the subject matter is right there on the tin.

He covers two large stock bubbles in England and France, the Tulipomania and a whole grab bag of other fads and mass movements-- witch mania, magnetism, alchemy and a bunch of other subjects. It's very interesting reading. I downloaded it from Gutenberg.

Posted by: Vanya at May 12, 2019 09:04 AM (U7voe)

Here is the Amazon blurb:

EXTRAORDINARY POPULAR DELUSIONS AND THE MADNESS OF CROWDS is a popular history of popular folly in human society by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, first published in 1841 but most of which remains incredibly relevent to this day. The book chronicles its subjects in three parts: "National Delusions", "Peculiar Follies", and "Philosophical Delusions". The subjects of Mackay's debunking include economic bubbles, crusades & witch-hunts, fortune-telling, medical quackery in curing disease, haunted houses, popular follies of great cities, and the popular admiration of great criminals. This is a book of reason and common-sense which shows precisely how man's idiocy is destined to keep repeating itself, and it is a book which indeed even prohesied the financial crash of 1929 and the economic downturn of more recent years. In fact, important present day writers on economics, such as Andrew Tobias and Michael Lewis, give it high praise.

You can download a Kindle edition for 99 cents or from Gutenberg for free. I like free.

Another recommendation from Trimegistus:

Everyone should read MacKay's "Extraordinary Popular Delusions . . . " Among other things, you discover that there's nothing new about Internet memes. There was a time in the Georgian era when you could crack up everybody in the pub by saying "What a shocking bad hat!" Someday all the allegedly comical stuff on Facebook will be as mystifyingly unfunny.

You know, the Moron Horde should come up with our own updated version of this classic work. We could call it "Extraordinary Popular Delusions... In My Ass!" Included would be things such as the Great Russian Collusion Hoax of 2016-2019. the Economic Miracle of Venezuela, Pretending That Some Mentally Ill Men Are Actually Women, The Towering Intellect of Barack Obama and the Unutterably Authentic Blackness of Shaun King. Hell, we've got delusions that would cause MacKay to retire to Bedlam.

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30 The latest David McCullough book is "The Pioneers" about the settlement of the old Northwest territories following the American Revolution. This is a part of US history that has always interested me. He provides context for the settlement and the personalities involved, some well known like Ben Franklin and others introduced in the book, in getting matters started and the type of people who moved to the area...

Just in the first couple of chapters the reader gets a feels for travel times and distances in the 1780s, the social customs in cities, the political wrangling (depressingly similar to today's BS), and the supplies pioneers were expected to have available. (You could write a book just on this last item. What pioneers of that period chose, why those items and how they were used is fascinating and revealing.) All this without slowing the narrative.

Posted by: JTB at May 12, 2019 09:13 AM (bmdz3)

A bit more detail from the Amazon blurb:

McCullough tells the story through five major characters: Cutler and Putnam; Cutler’s son Ephraim; and two other men, one a carpenter turned architect, and the other a physician who became a prominent pioneer in American science. They and their families created a town in a primeval wilderness, while coping with such frontier realities as floods, fires, wolves and bears, no roads or bridges, no guarantees of any sort, all the while negotiating a contentious and sometimes hostile relationship with the native people. Like so many of McCullough’s subjects, they let no obstacle deter or defeat them.

I'm thinking that perhaps all countries went through a phase like this, at the beginning. What makes the U.S.A. unique is that we're young enough to remember it.

The Kindle edition of The Pioneers: The Heroic Story of the Settlers Who Brought the American Ideal West is a bit spendy at $14.99.

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Books By Morons

'Ette author 'artemis' has published a new historical novel, A Death in Sheffield:

Artemis Merryfield has lived a soldier’s life, following the drum with her father as the British Army battled Napoleon’s forces on the Continent. But the Colonel was unexpectedly killed, and so she’s been shipped off to his nearest relative in Sheffield, England.

As she struggles to adjust to civilian life, Artemis soon discovers that there are factions from the last war who seem to be intensely interested in the silver mines she is to inherit, and equally interested in any secrets she may hold—secrets that could see her hanged for treason.

The Kindle edition is $4.99.

(Ben Roethlisberger just emailed me and said: "IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE NAME OF THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THIS NOVEL IS THE SAME NAME THE AUTHOR USES AS HER AOSHQ NIC." Thanks, Ben.)

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

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1 Hello book people!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

2 Tolle Lege

And I need to rectify that

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:02 AM (BbGew)

3 Too many books, so little time!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 09:05 AM (3hr5B)

4

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good,
because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.


Posted by: OregonMuse
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Yeah, but I'm going to finish Gibbon anyway.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:05 AM (cfSRQ)

5 My kindle has stopped telling me when authors I follow have new books.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 09:05 AM (JFO2v)

6 Nerds!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 09:05 AM (NWiLs)

7 Bookstore by MC Escher. Nice.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 09:07 AM (NsI03)

8 Even if it's these pants, which look like something you'd have to wear if you were invited to RuPaul's family reunion.

Those pants are about the least of that boy's problems.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 09:09 AM (NsI03)

9 @7 " Bookstore by MC Escher. Nice."

To me it looks like the result of a collaboration between Escher and Borges.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at May 19, 2019 09:10 AM (iuRR5)

10 Good morning all.

And happy birthday to me: 8 books, one philosophy and naval history (6 mostly WWII.) I've got a lot of reading to do.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:13 AM (VaN/j)

11 I haven't read anything for a week while backpacking. Funny thing is we met another couple on the trail who camped near us one night and they brought actual books with them. They were paperback. She was reading a Brad Thor novel can't remember what he had.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:13 AM (UUBmN)

12 Started 'Kitchen Confidential' by Bourdain. Interesting that he called Emeril Lagasse an ewok.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 09:13 AM (GTgMm)

13 My kids and I went to donate some old clothes at a local salvation army and they asked to go look at the toys. Fine, I'll be over in the books.

That's where I found ten Tom Clancy hardbacks from when he was actually writing them. My big problem is there's no room in the library already, and they take up three feet or so by themselves. A good problem to have, frankly.

$1 each. Yes, please.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:14 AM (lPsvG)

14 Wonderful book post this week! I remember discovering Herman Wouk in high school, and going on a years-long binge. The Glory made a particularly strong impression on me. God speed sir, and thank you.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 09:14 AM (Z216Q)

15
Reading Midnight's Furies by Nisid Hajari about the partition of India and its aftermath, including the battle over Kashmir.

Summary:

India: "Leave now!"

British: "OK, you're on your own."

*massacres*

India: "Wait!..."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 09:16 AM (QqVGs)

16 Kind of goofing off this week, but I am in two books: Victor David Hanson's "The Case for Trump", and John Ringo's anthology of zombie short stories, "Black Tide Rising".

Hanson, of course, is terrific. On Trump's "unexpected" victory, he writes: "But there was another force multiplier of stealth voters rarely acknowledged. Just as conservative and independent Americans hid their sympathies for Trump, so too others more liberal and centrist masked their antipathies to the transformation of a Democratic Party into a radically progressive movement. Either way, the result was the same: Trump support would be underestimated or missed by the media, sometimes by ignorance, but as often by intent."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:17 AM (kQs4Y)

17 Anyone know if Brad Thor is still never Trump? I do enjoy his books for a nice light read.... haven't read one in a while though.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:17 AM (UUBmN)

18 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading. I certainly did.

Probably won't post comments today. At a swap meet.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 09:18 AM (5ZhDL)

19 Even if it's these pants, which look like something you'd have to wear if you were invited to RuPaul's family reunion.

Those pants are about the least of that boy's problems.
Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 09:09 AM (NsI03)
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There's a lot to unpack with that look.

Still, I envy his lithe, hoydenish figure.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)

20 Just finished "Nothing Gold Can Stay" by Ron Rash, a collection of short stories some (most?) I'd previously read in a mega collection "Something Rich and Strange" and rereading them wasn't a waste of time. Hard to say why some of them made the cut into the large collection and others didn't because they're uniformly excellent. Maybe a coin flip.

I'm still not tired of Rash and might read The Cove next unless any of you have any suggestions or any of Harry Crews's early fiction (before All We Need of Hell).

I know some of you are familiar (some have even met him) with James Badal who wrote a book about The Torso Murders of Cleveland, an unsolved mystery that eluded Eliot Ness. He's part of my book group and wasn't present yesterday because he fell and broke his hip. No telling how bad it is because he's older than I am and I'm older than Vic; although he's still teaching English at the local community college so he still gets around, kind of. He bought a Vette recently for which I should lift the keys and take out and crank, strictly in the interest of not having the tires develop flat spots.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (y7DUB)

21
I recently got Wouk's City Boy as an e-book. Still delightful. A good one for young readers, too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (QqVGs)

22 Since Gibbon keeps coming up, this is from Waugh's St Helena:

https://tinyurl.com/y4wpbff3

(Unfortunately, the Quote Unf*cker didn't work; still got a 500.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (VaN/j)

23 How can any conservative still be Nevertrump?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (lPsvG)

24 I read a couple of the books in an old "Best-in-Books" volume published by Nelson Doubleday in 1965 while flying during to a family emergency:

The first was One Small Candle by Thomas Fleming; a non-fictional account of the first year at the Plymouth Plantion. I found it interesting and a good refresher of what I had been taught [...mumble...] years ago. Fleming makes a point that the Pilgrims at Plymouth were not the same as the Puritans at Boston and a church leader was prohibited from being Governor of Plymouth Plantation. Only their faith in God's plan for them kept them going during that first grim year. Rating = 4.5/5.0 (I would have liked a map or two but very readable).

The second was A Pennant for the Kremlin by Paul Molloy; a humorous novel recounting how the Soviet Union inherited the Chicago White Sox from an irascible hotel magnate. Generally pretty amusing story of how the deputy chairman of the Central Council of the All-Union Committee on Sports and Culture manages the White Sox in their race to the World Series. Of course, the capitalist running dogs corrupt some of the Commies. Rating = 4.25/5.

I tried to read Raymond and Me that Summer by Dick Perry; a [semi-autobiographical?} novel about a boy and his buddy during summer vacation in Cincinnati during the Great Depression. I found it rather depressing (the father had pawned everything of value in an attempt to stay financially solvent) and stopped reading. Not necessarily a bad novel and probably a pretty frank look at the Great Depression from the perspective of a 10 year-old boy but I wasn't in the mood to read it; unrated.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (5Yee7)

25 The article on YA authors being excluded from published over PC stuff amazes me. These emotional rages are completely Maoist.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 09:21 AM (Z216Q)

26 How can any conservative still be Nevertrump?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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Principles??///

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:22 AM (UUBmN)

27 I wish Gwen Davenport's Candy for Breakfast[/] was available at either of my libraries. That sounds like something I'd enjoy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:22 AM (kQs4Y)

28 Happy Birfday!

/spilled coffeve. Drat.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 09:22 AM (6qErC)

29
The second was A Pennant for the Kremlin by Paul Molloy

Read it when I was young, then our Irish Setter chewed it up. Got a replacement a few years ago. Good read.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 09:23 AM (QqVGs)

30 The article on YA authors being excluded from published over PC stuff amazes me. These emotional rages are completely Maoist.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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I've said it before, the left is trying to recreate the "cultural revolution" all over again....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:24 AM (UUBmN)

31 Texas just declared sovereign immunity against Democrat Congress requesting research on cleaning out voter roles. DAMN!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 09:24 AM (JFO2v)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:24 AM (kQs4Y)

33 Do you think they have any Thomas Sowell books in that Chongqing city bookstore?

Posted by: lowandslow at May 19, 2019 09:25 AM (4thlk)

34 I read Black Chamber by S.M. Stirling- had heard good reviews and the alternative history of Teddy Roosevelt being president combined with spy games sounded interesting. It was not as interesting as I thought it would be and while I am not sorry I read it, I won't be reading any more books in the series. I had read a few books of Stirling's Change series, where technology stopped working. Really liked the first few books and kind of liked books three and four, then stopped reading them. So I did not even get that far in this series.

Posted by: Charlotte at May 19, 2019 09:26 AM (iDRg8)

35 Texas just declared sovereign immunity against Democrat Congress requesting research on cleaning out voter roles. DAMN!
Posted by: rhennigantx
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Paxton...he fights! The left has tried to bring charges against him and he just tells them to f-off!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:26 AM (UUBmN)

36 Really thinking of reading the Caine Mutiny as the movie is one of my favorites, first a trip to used book store to look there.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (BbGew)

37 Well, other than Gibbon, I'm still working through the extremely dense Origins of Early Islam.

When I first got into the topic, I thought: "Please. Of course there's a historical Mohammed. Put away the tin foil hats already."

But now that I've started in, I'm noticing other references to the research. It's kept quiet, but it's out there.

Red pill, indeed.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)

38 How can any conservative still be Nevertrump?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (lPsvG)


Levin refers to Code Pink Republicans like that fuckhead Pat Buchanan who has always been an annoying jooo hating dickhole. Then you have police state fanboyz like Patterico and his catamites calling themselves "conservatives"; so the term is being grossly abused even beyond the MFM casuistry.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (y7DUB)

39 The latest David McCullough book is "The Pioneers" about the settlement of the old Northwest territories following the American Revolution.
...........

wait a sec.. people were settling out west in the 1780's?

Lewis and Clark weren't even heading out for another 20 years!

"Northwest" must mean something different.. Ohio??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (438dO)

40 I went to the U.S. Army Heritage Center in Carlisle, PA yesterday for their Army Heritage Days event, and they had a used book sale in the gift shop. I picked up a few interesting books:

Fire and Stone: The Science of Fortress Warfare 1660-1860 by Christopher Duffy

Wild Bill Donovan: The Last Hero by Anthony Cave Brown, about U.S. clandestine warrior & the founder of the OSS in WWII Bill Donovan

Goodnight Saigon: The True Story of the U.S. Marines Last Days in Vietnam by Charles Henderson

First Blood: The Story of Fort Sumter by W.A. Swanberg

But as nice as getting some good books for cheap is, the best part of the day was taking a ride in a Vietnam War vintage UH-1 Huey helicopter! That was the best $80 I've spent.

Posted by: josephistan at May 19, 2019 09:29 AM (Izzlo)

41 Moron Recommendations

Candy for Breakfast, by Gwen Davenport, looks like it might be a fun read. I've had it recommended to me a couple of weeks ago by Bensdad00, who writes. Aside from unavoidable anachronisms of time and place, every aspect of character and plot is recognizable today, and still going on.

...

Again, 1950.

In hindsight I'm surprised the library had a copy at all - it hasn't been banished as wrongthink yet.


It is obvious in hindsight that we should have either exiled or executed all the Lefty-Progressive-Commie scum that were in the U.S. after WWII but there wasn't the national will to do so. Too bad, we would have been spared a lot of grief.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 09:29 AM (5Yee7)

42 before digitization many libraries had collections of newspapers, in many cases entire runs of newspapers spanning the decades and centuries. then microfilm revolutionized libraries, they recorded their newspapers on film and threw out the papers. then the films started to disintegrate.

thank goodness digitalization provides a permanent record.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2019 09:30 AM (Pg+x7)

43 23 How can any conservative still be Nevertrump?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:20 AM (lPsvG)N)
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Seriously, a lot depends on what sort of conservative they are. For certain libertarians there's a kind of logic to it.

But for many, it means jettisoning conservatism, period, like Boot and Rubin. And much, for the rest, is just having their noses out of joint. David French, for instance.

The ones that get me are those who see the point of why we support him, but still persist with #NT. Bret Stephens, for instance, wrote about getting it during the Kavanapolypse. But some of these are inching toward sanity, however reluctantly.

In general, it's mostly emotion. A few years ago Ace was hitting - rightly - on the importance of maintaining a high opinion of themselves. They don't want to think of themselves as that kind of person.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:30 AM (VaN/j)

44 Oh, and I got to an Anthony Burgess (Clockwork Orange author) story in that excellent sci-fi anthology. It was apparently one of the only, if not THE only, sci-fi things he ever published, and it's very interesting.

Time travel, but it doesn't always work out to be exactly our time line. The technology allows us to get close, but the time period we travel back to might end up being inhabited by humanoid salamanders who are achieving the same tech and art in the same time and ways we did, so if you go back and don't plot the course to find reasonably close to human you're in a difficult spot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:30 AM (lPsvG)

45 Totally engrossed this week in a) clearing out the garage so that we can park at least one of the cars in it, and b) finishing up Luna City #8, so not much time for reading - only the light and pleasant stuff before falling asleep at night, or while riding the recumbent bike at the gym.
But - on the recommendation in last week's book thread, I took a flyer on Barbara Nickless "Blood on the Tracks." (le sigh!) It looked promising enough at the start - a railway cop and her side-kick, Clyde the Wonder Dog - but by about a quarter of the way in, it was nothing but "Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery..." So, the railway cop is a Marine veteran with PTSD. Just about every other veteran character in the book is similarly afflicted with gloom, despair and agony. Frankly, I began to whiff the same old memes from the Vietnam War aftermath: that every veteran of it was a broken, disillusioned and pitiable person, that they had perpetrated horrific war crimes, and that there were Higher Ups involved in a dastardly cover-up, to the point of committing further murders. I looked ahead to the other books - nope, more of the same, plus the continuing Cover Up of the Horrific War Crime by the Higher Ups.
And there were a couple of small ... well, there were elements in the story that just didn't ring true. The units in the Gulf War deployed as units, not individual troops sent out and returning alone, would a military intelligence specialist also be a dog handler? Stuff like that. I couldn't suspend my disbelief much further than that. I switched over to the Flavia de Luce series, and Margaret Ball's Applied Topology, instead.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 19, 2019 09:31 AM (xnmPy)

46 "Northwest" must mean something different.. Ohio??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (438dO)

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Yes. The Northwest Territories are now the Midwest.

It's a largely overlooked part of American history - well outside here, anyway.

Michigan has lots of places to visit. Fort Wayne dates from back then, and of course up at Mackinac you've got two forts from the period.

The River Raisin battlefield is finally getting developed. Ohio has Fort Meigs, which is getting better all the time. Still not as good as Mackinac, but coming along nicely.

One of my ancestors was killed during those wars - William Crawford. There's a monument in Ohio near where he was burned alive. Crawford County Michigan is named after him.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:31 AM (cfSRQ)

47
""Northwest" must mean something different.. Ohio??"


Yep, according to Wiki it was the settlers in Ohio County/Marietta, Ohio/

Posted by: lowandslow at May 19, 2019 09:32 AM (4thlk)

48 They don't want to think of themselves as that kind of person.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:30 AM (VaN/j)

Arguably the most conservative president since Coolidge, but I'm totes embarrassed and I hate him because he's a doodyhead.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:32 AM (lPsvG)

49 41
It is obvious in hindsight that we should have either exiled or executed all the Lefty-Progressive-Commie scum that were in the U.S. after WWII but there wasn't the national will to do so. Too bad, we would have been spared a lot of grief.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 09:29 AM (5Yee7)
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Reminiscent of Churchill's view in 1919, that the Russian Revolution should be strangled in the cradle. (And screw making them comfortable first.) Again, the will wasn't there, postwar.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:33 AM (VaN/j)

50 She was reading a Brad Thor novel can't remember what he had.
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:13 AM (UUBmN)


I read a couple of Brad Thor novels before he became a NeverTrumper; I found them full of "purple prose" and acceptable action novels at best.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 09:33 AM (5Yee7)

51 Plus, some people refuse to admit that they are wrong...ever. They will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify their "rightness" even if they are wrong. If you make them look bad, they will double down...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:33 AM (UUBmN)

52 "Northwest" must mean something different.. Ohio??
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (438dO)


Ohio was originally the Western Reserve of Connecticut iirc. Plus pioneers will go wherever they want; who will tell them no?

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 09:34 AM (y7DUB)

53 I'd like to visit Michigan and explore the great lakes sometime. It's intimidating as someone who likes the outdoors because I'll probably just get one opportunity and it's so vast.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:34 AM (lPsvG)

54 I have a few books printed in the 1790's to early 1800's in my small library. I pickup one and think of all that's happened since it was printed...Most are with leather covers and in remarkable shape. With no special care on my part.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:34 AM (+0N+f)

55 Robert Spencer in History of Jihad sort of head nods to no Mohammad but then glosses over that and starts the history with Mo.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:35 AM (BbGew)

56 The problem being that I also enjoy history, local silliness (Worlds largest milk carton was mentioned earlier), and seeing gardens and museums, too. That's a lot for one week.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:35 AM (lPsvG)

57 In general, it's mostly emotion. A few years ago Ace
was hitting - rightly - on the importance of maintaining a high opinion
of themselves. They don't want to think of themselves as that kind of
person.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:30 AM (VaN/j)

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Follow the money.

These guys don't work for free.

The Weekly Standard went under because Kristol and Co. went too far. Anshutz never wanted to turn a profit with the thing, but he did want enough subscribers to make him feel like he was making an impact. When the subscriber base collapsed, he killed the paper.

A buddy of mine who used to subscribe to National Review said he just got a mailer offering a year subscription for $10. That's a clear sign that they don't need money, they need subscribers to justify their existence to the backers.

Needless to say, he threw the letter away. I suspect most will.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:36 AM (cfSRQ)

58 Chi-town
The Old Northwest was Ohio, Indiana and Illinois... where the Fed gave land to the Revolutionary War soldiers in lieu of pay.

Also, a note- "Extraordinary Delusions..." begins with "Memoirs of..."

Posted by: MarkY at May 19, 2019 09:36 AM (DP75u)

59 53 I'd like to visit Michigan and explore the great lakes sometime. It's intimidating as someone who likes the outdoors because I'll probably just get one opportunity and it's so vast.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:34 AM (lPsvG)

Meh. It's half vast at best.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 09:36 AM (NWiLs)

60 Plus, some people refuse to admit that they are wrong...ever. They will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify their "rightness" even if they are wrong. If you make them look bad, they will double down...

Posted by: lin-duh

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One of the most valuable things my father ever taught me was when to apologize, how, and why.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:37 AM (lPsvG)

61 Yes. The Northwest Territories are now the Midwest.

It's a largely overlooked part of American history - well outside here, anyway.

.............

It's amazing to think of all the wonders they had yet to discover about this land at that point isn't it?

As a woodworker, I think of all the old growth forests.. untouched for millennia..

and the pristine rivers and streams..

If ever there was a time I would like to go back to, that would be it. (but there are lots of other times as well!)

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:38 AM (438dO)

62 I've said it before, the left is trying to recreate the "cultural revolution" all over again....
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:24 AM (UUBmN)


I agree completely. That's why I have been feeling compelled to buy as many pre-1980s books as I can afford. Of course, the Lefties have miscalculated because Americans have a deep and extensive history of firearms ownership; unlike Chinese peasants and Euroweenies.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 09:38 AM (5Yee7)

63 55
Robert Spencer in History of Jihad sort of head nods to no Mohammad but then glosses over that and starts the history with Mo.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:35 AM (BbGew)

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The framework is still being established and tested. Right now all we have are holes in the historical record but no fully realized alternative narrative.

But it's a thing, so to speak. Just as it took a while for gradualism to fade as a reason the dinosaurs died off.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:40 AM (cfSRQ)

64 Interesting side of the Old Northwest... the Fed was VERY concerned with how history would treat them (us) and purchased ALL the land.
E.g. The Wyandott Indians settled in what is now Kansas, just across the state line from Mo. They started what is now Kansas City Ks. as a commercial venture. The chief rented the finest house in Westport while his house was being built.
They were rich, and had only one pure bred Wyandott in the tribe at that time.
Jefferson's ideal of having the natives become farmers and Americans was already largely successful even in the 1820's.

Posted by: MarkY at May 19, 2019 09:41 AM (DP75u)

65 heh... . "Zhong Shu ge" literally means "Chinese Book(s)"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:42 AM (Ct55T)

66 For those who heard of PDT's pardon of Conrad Black and asked "Who dat? and why?" I recommend 'A Matter of Principle' by Black himself.

Black is an insightful man with intellect, a whimsical and cutting sense of humor, and a skill with the written word that is hard to match. The intricacies of his corporate fraud conviction are explained as well as they can be from HIS perspective. I didn't follow that when it was current and I am not well enough versed in the legalities to pass judgement for or against either side.

Whether or not he is/was a scoundrel though is secondary to a thoroughly enjoyable read - I recommend it highly.

Posted by: Lurking Cynic at May 19, 2019 09:42 AM (1uUVn)

67 Started on trollope's framley parsonage a prequel of sorts to the pallister series, shows how things haven't changed all that much in the UK or the Us in 150 yrs theres a passage about the Duke of omnium that will ring particularly true to current sensibilities.

I noted in the book store an annotated edition of chandlers the big sleep, by Jonathan lethem shows all the background to the tale including maps and historical background to Chandler he worked for oil men like dabney

Posted by: Admiral marcus at May 19, 2019 09:42 AM (qYP3G)

68 2 years ago a friend and his wife took a trip up to that hotel that was famous in a Hollywood movie. Crossing over The Mackinac Bridge, they still talk about it. Mac required some 3,500 workers, $99,800,000, and48 months to complete. What does a mile of the famous California choo choo cost!

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:42 AM (+0N+f)

69 51 Plus, some people refuse to admit that they are wrong...ever. They will twist themselves into a pretzel to justify their "rightness" even if they are wrong. If you make them look bad, they will double down...
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:33 AM (UUBmN)

No they don't.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:42 AM (Ct55T)

70 It's amazing to think of all the wonders they had yet to discover about this land at that point isn't it?

As a woodworker, I think of all the old growth forests.. untouched for millennia..

and the pristine rivers and streams..
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I just spent 5 days in the Gila Wilderness hiking two forks of the river. First 2 days didn't see another human. Totally off the grid. Nice way to reset.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:43 AM (UUBmN)

71 If ever there was a time I would like to go back to, that would be it. (but there are lots of other times as well!)

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at M
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I highly recommend going to the Straits and visiting Fort Michilimackinac, which has been rebuilt.

There's something about sitting on its walls and gazing out across the straits and imagining what the garrison thought of the place 300 years ago.

Northern Michigan has a lot of history in it - it's the oldest settled part of the state, actually. The Island is nice and the view from Fort Mackinac is amazing. A natural crossroads with so much going on. Expect to take a week so you don't rush it.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:43 AM (cfSRQ)

72 OT but, uh, historical: "German Crossbow victims were part of Medieval sex cult" - German sex guru specializing in medieval bondage directed lesbian sex slaves in bizarre murder-suicide

https://tinyurl.com/yyqxob56

"Caspari’s neighbors described her as a peculiar woman who dressed in Goth fashion and who rarely spoke to anyone."

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:45 AM (kQs4Y)

73 *shifty eyes*



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:45 AM (kQs4Y)

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Is this where someone points out a longbow would have been a better choice as a weapon?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)

74 Pixie will not let me post my reviews of Above The Waterfall, The Travellers series, The Librarian, and the The Tattooist Of Auschwitz. Half hour of typing down the tubes.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 19, 2019 09:47 AM (Zgezk)

75 Among other things, I'm almost halfway through Nabokov's second full length work of fiction "King, Queen, Knave". It's an amazingly mature work about some young guy who moves to Berlin to work in his uncle's department store and starts banging his hawt wife. It was written in 1929 but not translated by his son until 1968 "in collaboration with the author" which means to me that the mature Vlad made some tweaks in the text to improve it. Although emigrees don't make up the cast of characters, the protagonist is still an outsider to Berlin. And there's still lots of Nabokovian odd coincidences and vivid descriptions of settings. Great stuff; his early stuff deserves a wider audience.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 09:47 AM (y7DUB)

76 Where's Vic? Today in history is big--> May 19, 1536, the beheading of Anne Boleyn by Henry VIII on Tower Green.

Posted by: jmel at May 19, 2019 09:47 AM (OeWgo)

77 37 Well, other than Gibbon, I'm still working through the extremely dense Origins of Early Islam.

When I first got into the topic, I thought: "Please. Of course there's a historical Mohammed. Put away the tin foil hats already."

But now that I've started in, I'm noticing other references to the research. It's kept quiet, but it's out there.

Red pill, indeed.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'd stay skeptical. If I were particularly interested, I'd check the strongest counter-arguments. Any halfway competent writer can make a persuasive case; the question is what is the opposing case.

It's 55 years since I became a naval buff, in large part because of Churchill's histories. But now I know better than to accept his version; great writer, yes, but his understanding of ships and naval strategy never did go beyond that of a cavalry officer. Really.

One of my "new" books is Roskill's Churchill and the Admirals. It too is overstated, and sometimes wrong. But it's sometimes right. WSC hated (explicitly) a strategy based on convoy and blockade as the primary foci. You know, the things that beat Napoleon. But he couldn't see it unless there was a battle or an invasion involved. (Interestingly, this was a reprise of Swift's critique of Marlborough.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:48 AM (VaN/j)

78 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)

There's just something more primal about the crossbow. It's more satisfying.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:48 AM (kQs4Y)

79 There's a lot to unpack with that look.

Still, I envy his lithe, hoydenish figure.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:19 AM (kQs4Y)

*****

I rarely come across the word "hoydenish".

The last time I remember it being used is in the original version of The Parent Trap. The Grandmother character expressed her dislike for what she thought was Sharon's new short haircut by describing it as hoydenish.

Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at May 19, 2019 09:49 AM (NqQAS)

80 Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (cfSRQ)

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Honestly did not realize the controversy over Mohammed's existence was serious. So he might have been a conglomeration of multiple warlords? Apocryphal, even?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 09:49 AM (Z216Q)

81 Re: books, i'm re-reading Vanity Fair for the umpteenth time.

Because I'm a dork.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:49 AM (Ct55T)

82 Tom hollands in the shadow of the crescent is pretty good in that vein, hes critical of all three Faith's sourcing but guess which complained

Posted by: Admiral marcus at May 19, 2019 09:50 AM (qYP3G)

83 Trivia time: He was the best selling author of the 20th century at the time of his death in 1970 although neither terribly famous nor well respected by the literary community. You've probably heard of him (although I had to explain an attempted joke using him as a sock some time ago). You definitely know his most famous character who has been featured in numerous movies and on TV. I used to often see his paperback novels with rather lurid covers (for the time) at truck stops and what not.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 09:50 AM (+y/Ru)

84 Re: books, i'm re-reading Vanity Fair for the umpteenth time.



Because I'm a dork.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:49 AM (Ct55T)


A Beto fan? Watched the video of him getting a haircut on YouTube...so exciting. (not)

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:51 AM (+0N+f)

85 I highly recommend going to the Straits and visiting Fort Michilimackinac, which has been rebuilt.

There's something about sitting on its walls and gazing out across the straits and imagining what the garrison thought of the place 300 years ago.

Northern Michigan has a lot of history in it - it's the oldest settled part of the state, actually. The Island is nice and the view from Fort Mackinac is amazing. A natural crossroads with so much going on. Expect to take a week so you don't rush it.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd

Been there! It is a beautiful spot.

We used to vacation in northern Michigan.. Petoskey was one of our favorite spots..

And who can resist the hundreds of fudge shops on Mackinac Island? lol..

One of my previous jobs was working for a software developer writing school administrative software.. Many of the schools up that way were our clients and I had to head up there for training and troubleshooting.. Boyne City.. Charlevoix.. beautiful country..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:51 AM (438dO)

86 A Beto fan? Watched the video of him getting a haircut on YouTube...so exciting. (not)
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:51 AM (+0N+f)

I said "Thackeray", not "Hackery"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:52 AM (Ct55T)

87 Re: books, i'm re-reading Vanity Fair for the umpteenth time.

Because I'm a dork.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:49 AM (Ct55T)


That book reads refreshingly modern with a smartassed sense of humor. I enjoyed it a great deal.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 09:52 AM (y7DUB)

88 musical jolly chimp:
thank goodness digitalization provides a permanent record.

No /sarc tag?

"Yessss. Permanent." -digital book company that deleted everybody's copies of 1984

Really, though, digital is the greatest development in copying media. Never the same as printed page or paint on canvas, but excellent for sharing text and image and even movin' pitchers. Exact copies with no loss (if done right).

Permanent, for certain values of multiple, location-separated backup copies and lack of EMPs wiping out digital civilization...

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 09:52 AM (NsI03)

89 That book reads refreshingly modern with a smartassed sense of humor. I enjoyed it a great deal.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 09:52 AM (y7DUB)

I don't think people who never read vic-lit appreciate just how hilarious that book is.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:53 AM (Ct55T)

90 One of the most valuable things my father ever taught me was when to apologize, how, and why.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:37 AM (lPsvG)

It's a good skill. I was taught to apologize for everything all the time whether it was my fault or responsibility or not.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 09:53 AM (NWiLs)

91 76 Where's Vic? Today in history is big--> May 19, 1536, the beheading of Anne Boleyn by Henry VIII on Tower Green.
Posted by: jmel at May 19, 2019 09:47 AM (OeWgo)
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Also Battle of Dover, which started the first Anglo-Dutch War, and Barfleur vs the French.

And the ONT missed that it's Pete Townsend's B-Day. (Or will that be tonight's?)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:54 AM (VaN/j)

92 What is RBG reading today?

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:55 AM (+0N+f)

93 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at May 19, 2019 09:55 AM (t6MX/)

94 Yes contemporary sourcing of Mohammed is noted in say fragments of the syrian conquests and a few other places which are after the bulk of his life had passed

Posted by: Admiral marcus at May 19, 2019 09:56 AM (qYP3G)

95 83 Trivia time: He was the best selling author of the 20th century at the time of his death in 1970 although neither terribly famous nor well respected by the literary community. You've probably heard of him (although I had to explain an attempted joke using him as a sock some time ago). You definitely know his most famous character who has been featured in numerous movies and on TV. I used to often see his paperback novels with rather lurid covers (for the time) at truck stops and what not.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 09:50 AM (+y/Ru)
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Sounds like Spillane, but 1970 sounds early. He was in a Columbo. (Guess without DDG.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 09:56 AM (VaN/j)

96 93 Book nerds!
Posted by: Ogre at May 19, 2019 09:55 AM (t6MX/)

Was the guy who played Ogre the same guy who played the "buddy character" in Bloodsport?

In my memory, that's true, but for some reason i'm not sure it's actually true.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 19, 2019 09:56 AM (Ct55T)

97 92 What is RBG reading today?
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:55 AM (+0N+f)

Handbook for the Recently Deceased

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 09:56 AM (NWiLs)

98 One of the most valuable things my father ever taught me was when to apologize, how, and why.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:37 AM (lPsvG)

It's a good skill. I was taught to apologize for everything all the time whether it was my fault or responsibility or not.
Posted by: Insomniac
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I think being able to admit you are wrong first then apologizing is a very valuable thing...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:56 AM (UUBmN)

99 92 What is RBG reading today?
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 09:55 AM (+0N+f)

pennys on her eyelids

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 09:57 AM (JFO2v)

100 pennys on her eyelids
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 09:57 AM (JFO2v)

"In God We Trust"

...nnnnnnNNNOOOOOOOOO!


*sizzle*

Posted by: RBG at May 19, 2019 09:57 AM (Ct55T)

101 wait a sec.. people were settling out west in the 1780's?

Lewis and Clark weren't even heading out for another 20 years!

"Northwest" must mean something different.. Ohio??

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (438dO)

Must be....this part of SC was considered "frontier" @the time of the revolution.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 09:59 AM (ykq7q)

102
Honestly did not realize the controversy over
Mohammed's existence was serious. So he might have been a conglomeration
of multiple warlords? Apocryphal, even?


Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 09:49 AM (Z216Q)

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Neither did I. I'm not yet sold on it because I haven't dug into the whole argument yet. Still trying to wrap my mind around it.

Still, there are some rather large issues with the conventional narrative that have to be addressed. The lack of any kind of coinage or inscription/monuments is a big one. So too is the absence of contemporary commentary.

Then there's the Koran itself. It was supposedly present at the creation, but doesn't seem to exist until two centuries later. The Gospels are much closer in terms of creating and dating.

For a faith that was supposedly fully-formed out of the box (so to speak), these are some serious issues that hand-waving can't dismiss.

Islam as a Christian heresy that got out of hand makes a lot of sense. Having an empire synthesize a shadowy mythical founder is likewise not unique in world history. So I'm skeptical but intrigued.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 09:59 AM (cfSRQ)

103 92
What is RBG reading today?
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Back issues from her collection of Powerlifting USA magazine. Looking for some good hints on shoulder definition exercises.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 09:59 AM (Z216Q)

104 Sorry fragments of the Arab conquest and that is dated to 636, it's a little like relying on procopius for an understanding of early byzantine history except there are other sources

Posted by: Admiral marcus at May 19, 2019 10:00 AM (qYP3G)

105 I just got through the part of "A People's Tragedy" where Lenin unleashed the mob with orders to "loot the looters". This was just as fucking bad as the feral dipshits of the French Revolution going crazy on whoever provoked their ire; Orlando Figes made it clear the early Cheka was mandated to wreak havoc indiscriminately. As long as that psycho fuck's body is still displayed in Moscow, Russia is a worthless shithole

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:01 AM (y7DUB)

106 Stopping in for a drive-by, fellow bookish 'rons and 'ettes. This week I'm finishing Scandalous Mercy: When God Goes Beyond Boundaries, by French nun Sister Emmanuel Maillard. It came highly recommended by a young woman who led a retreat on The Divine Mercy, at my Catholic parish.

While some of the story telling is so simplistic - bordering on insulting -- we also get details of stories not reported in "mainstream" news. The translation could've had something to do with this as well.

Toward the end, there is a story about a U.S. Marine who takes two precious weeks of vacation to fly to India to meet his idol, Mother Teresa. When one of the Sisters of Charity answers the door, she informs the Marine that, "Mother is not here; she was called to Rome."

The crestfallen young man decides to stay and help the missionary sisters anyway and is rewarded like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 10:02 AM (tGSHk)

107 Islam as a Christian heresy that got out of hand makes a lot of sense.

Just off-handedly, Islam has always struck me as a military code combined with popular religion. The animating impetus is conquest, but the combo with religion has enabled Islam to thrive even today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 10:04 AM (Z216Q)

108 Sounds like Spillane, but 1970 sounds early. He was in a Columbo. (Guess without DDG.)
Posted by: Eeyore
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Spillane just died 10 years ago or so..

Tolkien?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 10:05 AM (438dO)

109 I think being able to admit you are wrong first then apologizing is a very valuable thing...
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:56 AM (UUBmN)

Of course. I do my best to do this with my kids especially. But there's a lot of space between that and being compelled essentially to repeatedly apologize for one's own existence and others' shitty behavior. I think introspection and sincere apology can be a good and powerful thing.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:06 AM (NWiLs)

110 Along similar lines, there is the recently departed French erald de Villiers bond malko linge he had a very pulpy series 32 stories some of which have been translated. Even for Morons he is exceedingly franc in his conquests, the one I read again is madmen of Benghazi although set in 2011, related to events a year later in ways the broadsheets wont touch.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at May 19, 2019 10:06 AM (qYP3G)

111 The crestfallen young man decides to stay and help the missionary sisters anyway and is rewarded like you wouldn't believe.
Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 10:02 AM (tGSHk)

"Dear Penthouse Forum..."

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:07 AM (NWiLs)

112 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 09:50 AM (+y/Ru)
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Mack Bolan?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 10:09 AM (kQs4Y)

113 Erle Stanley Gardner died about then. And the covers were much more lurid than the content. (Again, not looking it up.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:09 AM (VaN/j)

114 Yes. The Northwest Territories are now the Midwest.

It's a largely overlooked part of American history

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Journey: The Adventures of Wolverine MacAlistaire was an independent comic book created by William Messner-Loebs about Michigan frontier life in the 19th century. An ensemble piece, it tells the story of the Fort Miami settlement and the characters, both real and fictional, that occupy it. Among these is the title character, Joshua "Wolverine" MacAlistaire. -Wikipedia

Two trade paperback collections.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_(comics)
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Growing up in Oklahoma, everything from here to the Pacific was the frontier. I found Journey entertaining and informative about that earlier "western frontier".

Well researched, and Messner-Loebs's art is lush. IIRC. Been a long, long time since I read it. Might have to dig this series out of the archives and read it again.

I especially remember his illustration of the main character caught up in the 1812 Madrid quakes. "Where'd the river go?"

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 10:10 AM (NsI03)

115
Mack Bolan?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 10:09 AM


Bang A Gong?

oh wait....

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe details) at May 19, 2019 10:10 AM (KCxzN)

116
"Dear Penthouse Forum..."
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:07 AM (NWiLs)

Er, let's just say it's more of a spiritual reward...

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 10:11 AM (tGSHk)

117 Gerald de Villiers, a few of his last works have been translated like this one and one set in kabul.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at May 19, 2019 10:12 AM (qYP3G)

118 Re #3-----Ain't that the truth

Posted by: Semilitterate at May 19, 2019 10:13 AM (BCxw3)

119 The 'Even Fantasy Is Offensive' story is delicious in a satisfyingly cannibalistic way.


Watching these small-minded people eat each other alive over their shared perverse value system is beautfully tasty.


Especially when it's a lot of mediocrities vying against their competition, justifying it with their twisted, bankrupt notions.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 10:14 AM (oVJmc)

120 Even if it's these pants, which look like something you'd have to wear if you were invited to RuPaul's family reunion.
+++++++++
Those pants are about the least of that boy's problems.


*********

Boy, I'll say!! For heaven's sake the poor fellow is drinking a Corona!!!

Posted by: hobart Harumphey at May 19, 2019 10:14 AM (m45I2)

121 For those interested in the subject I read an essay this morning by the authors of this book, which extensively describes the Christian genocide a hundred years ago in Turkey, popularly called the Armenian genocide. It actually was far more reaching ethnically than just Armenian and had an explcitily anti-Christian focus.
https://tinyurl.com/y6cy7bs8

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 10:14 AM (Z216Q)

122 Er, let's just say it's more of a spiritual reward...
Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 10:11 AM (tGSHk)

Ohhhhh... So Zoot and Dingo do NOT make an appearance.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:15 AM (NWiLs)

123 Maybe a dingo ate your baby.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 10:18 AM (/tuJf)

124 Something I've noticed. Another of the new books is Charles Stanton, Medieval Maritime Warfare. So far it seems to be OK so far as what it covers. But the writing is crude. Not, thankfully, gobbledygook, but sort of high schoolish. Repetitious, with a lot of unnecessary descriptions of sources, and sometimes what, taken literally, would be illogical. (Though so far Iv'e been able to see what he means.

And this isn't unique. John Guilmartin does good work on early modern warfare and tech, but writes like that. So does John Elting (Swords Around a Throne.) The worst is one More Than Merkle (can't recall author's name.)

Is this something we're going to get more of? Note, I am not using Churchill's prose as my standard, but guys like Norman Friedman and Arthur Marder, neither of whom is Swiftian, but both are perfectly serviceable.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:20 AM (VaN/j)

125 Erle Stanley Gardner died about then. And the covers were much more lurid than the content. (Again, not looking it up.)
Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:09 AM (VaN/j)


Wiki states ESG died in 1970. He has my vote as the answer for the trivia question. I recently bought an old Perry Mason novel just because of the title, The Case of the Vagabond Virgin because it was in great shape and still had the [non-lurid] dust jacket.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 10:20 AM (5Yee7)

126 One slice of Ohio was part of Connecticut. A lot of it was one county of Kentucky. A bunch more was part of Virginia. Geographically, the flat western stripe is part of Indiana. The surveying talents of Robt E Lee and the great trade-off in the UP took three northwestern counties from Mee-shigan.

When you are done subtracting that parts that really ought to be something else, you're pretty much left with the horseshoe and some Somalis.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:20 AM (8ZmvG)

127 I should be Outside, I suppose. But...bugs, heat!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 10:21 AM (kQs4Y)

128 wait a sec.. people were settling out west in the 1780's?
Lewis and Clark weren't even heading out for another 20 years!

"Northwest" must mean something different.. Ohio??
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2019 09:27 AM (438dO)


Yes. Back in those times, the "Northwest" meant Ohio, Michigan, etc.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 10:22 AM (b7IdW)

129 Erle Stanley Gardner died about then. And the covers were much more lurid than the content. (Again, not looking it up.)

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Ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! I got a wild hair and decided to read the novel introducing Perry Madon, The Case of the Velvet Claws. Perry was different then. Carried a gun and was much more of a street brawler than the sophisticate than we think of.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 10:23 AM (+y/Ru)

130 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:24 AM (icuj/)

131 Okay, it's not Don Pendleton, who wrote the Mack Bolan series. He died in 1995.

I haven't read any Mack stories, but per Wiki:

"Mack Bolan, alias The Executioner, is a fictional character who has been serialized in over 600 novels with sales of more than 200 million books."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 10:25 AM (kQs4Y)

132 129 Erle Stanley Gardner died about then. And the covers were much more lurid than the content. (Again, not looking it up.)

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Ding ding ding ding ding! We have a winner! I got a wild hair and decided to read the novel introducing Perry Madon, The Case of the Velvet Claws. Perry was different then. Carried a gun and was much more of a street brawler than the sophisticate than we think of.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 10:23 AM (+y/Ru)
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Burr and Hale both portrayed Perry and Della as more polished than they come across in the books. Hopper, though is pretty much on target as Paul Drake.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:28 AM (VaN/j)

133 Personal pet peeve:

From the pic note above "...dubbed one of the most beautiful bookstores in China..."

Dubbed by who? And if it's "one of," where are the other equally or more beautiful bookstores in China? Can we not have articles about those beautiful bookstores as well?

It's just lazy writing. State YOUR opinion, author. Say it's a beautiful bookstore. Hey, maybe even say it's the most beautiful bookstore you've found, in China or perhaps even anywhere!

Just knock it off with the "some day it's one of the most..."

I hate that type of limp, non-committal statement.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 10:28 AM (cY3LT)

134 The crestfallen young man decides to stay and help the missionary sisters anyway and is rewarded like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 10:02 AM (tGSHk)


A friendly warning to all you 'ettes: Do not write sentences like this. It's like standing in a pool of gasoline and lighting a match.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 10:29 AM (b7IdW)

135 130 hiya
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:24 AM (icuj/)

'Sup?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:30 AM (NWiLs)

136 I've read that Gardner based some of Perry Mason's cases on his own early career as a lawyer. He was definitely a fan of courtroom shenanigans.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 19, 2019 10:33 AM (3+caa)

137 Just off-handedly, Islam has always struck me as a
military code combined with popular religion. The animating impetus is
conquest, but the combo with religion has enabled Islam to thrive even
today.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 10:04 AM (Z216Q)|
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One of the facets that make me think it was heresy was the fury directed at Christians.

Contra modern propaganda, Christianity has almost always been voluntary. There may be social pressure to conform, but none of Islam's "conversion, tribute or the sword" schtick.

However, Christianity has not been kind of heretics. So if early Islam regarded Orthodox Christians as heretics, that would explain not only why they fought with such zeal, but also why they were initially tolerant of other heresies - they hated Orthodoxy more.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 10:33 AM (cfSRQ)

138 Fun Gardner fact: he also wrote westerns, back when pulp authors got paid a nickel a word. He used to draw out the final gunfight to the last bullet, because, as he put it, he didn't want the hero to ride off into the sunset with 25 cents' worth of unused ammo in his pistol.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 19, 2019 10:34 AM (3+caa)

139 Not long ago we went over several recent books having to do with the terrible defeat of the nascent US Army in Ohio, and the campaigns by Anthony Wayne that followed on that. There were horrifying financial scandals having to do with federal sale of lands in Ohio (and to a lesser extent the other NW territories).

Washington (no, the actual Washington) needed cash very badly, to live to up the compromise that got the Constitution -- the federal assumption of the states' war debts. Pres Washington was, perhaps, poorly advised as to who the trustworthy patricians were. But he did believe in the general idea of having wealthy patricians semi-govern, by being the Government's agents in selling, buying and parcelling-out that territory, unbelievably vast and rich for the time. So his name was connected, at the time, with those scandals.


Much of Ohio was sold twice. By the time the Indian wars went off, early white settlers (and veterans who had gone out early) were not on the Government's side. Many perfectly honest buyers were just plain screwed over. Not one of American history's prouder moments.

Also of note: Ohio is very much "the engineered state," and a lot of that happened in the 20th century. 18th century Ohio was treacherous in the extreme, what with all those flat rivers flooding constantly. Anywhere there was a ravine or valley, you could count on it being full of water part of the year.

"The Victory with No Name" is one of those recent books. There are several.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:35 AM (8ZmvG)

140 74 Pixie will not let me post my reviews of Above The Waterfall, The Travellers series, The Librarian, and the The Tattooist Of Auschwitz. Half hour of typing down the tubes.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 19, 2019 09:47 AM (Zgezk)


Please don't throw them away. E-mail them to me and I'll see what I can use.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 10:35 AM (b7IdW)

141 In "I, Claudius" Augustus was just poisoned by his bitch wife, Livia, just like everyone else who irritated her. Lots of characters are hard to keep track of just who they are but Augustus was a commanding presence for a long time. There was a pretty funny vignette where Claudius was giving a reading and some obese turd wanders in and sits in Livia's vacant seat, totally breaking it apart. Claudius uncontrollably loses his shit over this just in time for Livia to show up; it's not like she didn't hate him already. Great stuff.

In Herodotus Darius barely made it out of Scythia alive as the difficulties of dealing with a highly mobile opponent over logistically difficult terrain became almost fatally apparent. Now it's on to Libya although strangely Carthage doesn't get included.

Finally it was oddly inappropriate on Mother's Day to be reading Camille Paglia's description of Dionysus in Sexual Personae as embodying the chthonic nature of women being immersed in the oozing miasma of procreation with the accompanying fish smells. No wonder the nags were triggered. It reminded me of Tammy Bruce taking her fellow lezzos to task for having the disregard for personal appearances of homeless people and high rates of alcoholism.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:35 AM (y7DUB)

142 136 I've read that Gardner based some of Perry Mason's cases on his own early career as a lawyer. He was definitely a fan of courtroom shenanigans.
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 19, 2019 10:33 AM (3+caa)
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They sometimes did that in the show. Of course, they were limited in what they could show back then. (Hitchcock got around it with the closing commentary.)

Another case where the public perception today is off, and over-polished, is Nick and Nora Charles. This wasn't so much a matter of the movies getting them wrong, as a confusion with another series of movies, in which William Powell played Philo Vance. Vance is the real source of, e.g., Niven's parody in Murder By Death, not The Thin Man.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:36 AM (VaN/j)

143 I have been reading the King Killer series by Patrick Rothfuss

I just got done with Wise Man's Fear
It's terrible nothing happens at all. He keeps hinting about a war that's going on and I was hoping to find out what started it but no nothing. There are these Demons that roam around possessing people and these little Demon things that attack people and you don't find out what is going on why they are attacking people.

He spends a whole chapter on learning the language and hand signs of one of the mercenaries.

Just skip and read the last book of the series

I don't understand all the good reviews it's not a good book.

I would suggest reading SPELLMONGER by Terry Mancour.

I am enjoying this series very much, funny at times and serious. It has the court drama or power games that happens with Kings and Dukes. There's murder and Magic and Goblins that are trying to kill all of humanity but the Humans don't come together because politics.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 19, 2019 10:37 AM (dKiJG)

144 'Sup?
Posted by: Insomniac

I had to run a few errands before I got here, but at least my pants aren't wet today

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:38 AM (icuj/)

145 I had to run a few errands before I got here, but at least my pants aren't wet today
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:38 AM (icuj/)

I commend you for your Poise.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:38 AM (NWiLs)

146 Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:20 AM (VaN/j)

Modern writing is often just plain *bad*. Articles in newspapers and magazines, even the conservative ones I'm afraid, are written very poorly. I don't know if it's because all the editors were let go when AutoCucumber came on the scene or if it's because the last 30+ years of education have been abysmal.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 10:39 AM (uquGJ)

147 Still, I envy his lithe, hoydenish figure.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

But not his hairy legs, right ?

RIGHT ???

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:40 AM (icuj/)

148 Happy Birthday Eeyore !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:41 AM (icuj/)

149 Modern writing is often just plain *bad*. Articles in newspapers and magazines, even the conservative ones I'm afraid, are written very poorly. I don't know if it's because all the editors were let go when AutoCucumber came on the scene or if it's because the last 30+ years of education have been abysmal.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 10:39 AM (uquGJ)

Back in my day, when the chalkboard had just been invested, we had to diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, get the difference between "its" and "it's" beaten into us, etc. I'm pretty certain they don't do this anymore.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:41 AM (NWiLs)

150 I commend you for your Poise.

It wasn't raining today.

Poise didn't enter into the equation.

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 10:42 AM (icuj/)

151 Back in my day, when the chalkboard had just been invested, we had to diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, get the difference between "its" and "it's" beaten into us, etc. I'm pretty certain they don't do this anymore.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:41 AM (NWiLs)
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We meanie homeschool moms sure do.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:43 AM (aXucN)

152 Something I've noticed. Another of the new books is Charles Stanton, Medieval Maritime Warfare. So far it seems to be OK so far as what it covers. But the writing is crude. Not, thankfully, gobbledygook, but sort of high schoolish. Repetitious, with a lot of unnecessary descriptions of sources, and sometimes what, taken literally, would be illogical. (Though so far Iv'e been able to see what he means.

And this isn't unique. John Guilmartin does good work on early modern warfare and tech, but writes like that. So does John Elting (Swords Around a Throne.) The worst is one More Than Merkle (can't recall author's name.)

Is this something we're going to get more of? Note, I am not using Churchill's prose as my standard, but guys like Norman Friedman and Arthur Marder, neither of whom is Swiftian, but both are perfectly serviceable.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 10:20 AM (VaN/j)


We are boats against the tide. In a mere few decades, standard Engrish will include "u" as a word. And the word like will be, like, literally acceptable as a way to pause for effect in the middle of a sentence.

It will also be literally impossible to tell when someone means something literally, because the word "literally" will literally be used to mean both literally and figuratively. It'll literally be a rule. Literally.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 10:44 AM (cY3LT)

153 Good editors are extremely valuable; in my case to purge sentences of excessive words that add nothing in terms of useful content.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

154 Every week I click on the awful pants picture, and then I wonder why did I click on that awful pants picture. Even sadder is the fact that there are so many awful pants pictures out there in the wild.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)

155 #GetWouk!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (Ndje9)

156 Good editors are extremely valuable; in my case to purge sentences of excessive words that add nothing in terms of useful content.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (y7DUB)
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Replace that semi-colon with a comma.

(I always find your comments very well-written, by the way.)

Posted by: bluebell with her homeschool mom hat on at May 19, 2019 10:47 AM (aXucN)

157 Those little click-bait stories that are appended to "things you click on" read as if a cheap AI circuit is being tested out writing them. There are sentences there, but they are curiously content - free. Details are often wrong, and they're just full of that "some say" passive style. They remind me a lot of the old word-count criticism of pulp authors, except that RE Howard and ilk were a lot more entertaining.

History channellers of the last 20 or so years went to the same writing school. I don't know how many times I can bear hearing about MacArthur "flying out" of the Philippines, or of how many versions of a plane were used before the ar-MISS-tiss. It's all like "Screw you, stuck-up Junior High grad with yer hah falootin education." Also when Aryeh Nusbacher starts to look good to me I will know my time has come at last.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:47 AM (8ZmvG)

158 Some say English has been dubbed one of the most important languages in the United States.

I literally don't believe that anymore. Do u?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 10:48 AM (cY3LT)

159 Eldest Kidlet just finished the second book of The Expanse. She's still enjoying it and likes to tell me about what happened. The Horde having previously discussed it helps me place the action so far, but I don't remember much of what was said after this point in the series.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 10:48 AM (uquGJ)

160 I'm reading "Why, No, My Support Of Impeachment Has Nothing To Do With My Family Business In China--Why Do You Ask, Grasshopper?" by Rep. Justin Amash (U.-Hengzhou).

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 19, 2019 10:49 AM (Ndje9)

161 I am finally planning to read War and Peace. I have two translations to choose from. At first the length deterred me but if I can read LOTR every year and reread Atlas Shrugged a bunch of times I am not going to let some dead Rooskie hold me back.

Weekly progress (if any) reports to follow the next few weeks.

Back to the guns.

Posted by: JTB at May 19, 2019 10:49 AM (5ZhDL)

162 "Pug" Henry was there when Herman Wouk died.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 10:51 AM (ta49A)

163 We meanie homeschool moms sure do.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:43 AM (aXucN)

I'm sure you're a very nice, yet rigorous, homeschool mom.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:52 AM (NWiLs)

164 Back in my day, when the chalkboard had just been invested, we had to diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, get the difference between "its" and "it's" beaten into us, etc. I'm pretty certain they don't do this anymore.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:41 AM (NWiLs)


U mean, like, literally beaten?

I would literally die.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 10:52 AM (cY3LT)

165 Anyone know if Brad Thor is still never Trump? I do enjoy his books for a nice light read.... haven't read one in a while though.
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:17 AM (UUBmN)

Yes, and it's a shame.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 19, 2019 10:52 AM (dKiJG)

166 consider this sentence

Last year, despite overwhelming evidence that homeless encampments were generating enormous quantities of garbage, the city council considered making it illegal for non-homeless Seattle residents to dump trash in the encampments.

wait wut? making it illegal for non-homeless So that means it is legal for homeless? Welcome to the modern Democrat Ru(i)n City.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 10:52 AM (JFO2v)

167 Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:47 AM (8ZmvG)

Even publications like American Greatness and American Thinker have very badly written articles. Maybe it's just that the ones getting linked are unusually bad, but that seems unlikely. There are links on archeology and history I follow from Twitter that are nearly incomprehensible. It may be that my reading comprehension has dropped drastically the last few years, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 10:53 AM (uquGJ)

168 Replace that semi-colon with a comma.

(I always find your comments very well-written, by the way.)
Posted by: bluebell with her homeschool mom hat on at May 19, 2019 10:47 AM (aXucN)


Thank you. Mother Hate was not what most people would consider highly educated but she thought it important that her offspring, even my idiot brother, be well spoken. But she mercilessly ridiculed people with overly ostentatious vocabularies so my path was a narrow one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:54 AM (y7DUB)

169 "Some say English has been dubbed"

You know, that would account for it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:55 AM (8ZmvG)

170 154 Every week I click on the awful pants picture, and then I wonder why did I click on that awful pants picture. Even sadder is the fact that there are so many awful pants pictures out there in the wild.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)
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I always think "If this is what OregonMuse is willing to show us, what other horrors has he beheld?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 10:55 AM (kQs4Y)

171 164 Back in my day, when the chalkboard had just been invested, we had to diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, get the difference between "its" and "it's" beaten into us, etc. I'm pretty certain they don't do this anymore.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:41 AM (NWiLs)


U mean, like, literally beaten?

I would literally die.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 10:52 AM (cY3LT)

As to it's and its, I am speaking metaphorically. There was plenty of beating over other matters, whether real, imagined or trivial.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 10:55 AM (NWiLs)

172 Even publications like American Greatness and American Thinker have very badly written articles. Maybe it's just that the ones getting linked are unusually bad, but that seems unlikely. There are links on archeology and history I follow from Twitter that are nearly incomprehensible. It may be that my reading comprehension has dropped drastically the last few years, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 10:53 AM (uquGJ)
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I've noticed this too, and I've come to the conclusion that it's probably because people are always in such a rush to get things published onto their website. In the olden days, when we relied on the printed newspaper, there was more time for editors to get involved and really, well, edit. Nowadays, if they even have editors at all, it's probably a cursory glance and then hit "publish." Everyone wants to be the first with the story, same as in the olden days, but the timing is much tighter now.

This is all based on nothing but my imagination, by the way.

Although I have to agree that the basics of writing are probably not taught much these days.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:56 AM (aXucN)

173 consider this sentence

Last year, despite overwhelming evidence that homeless encampments were generating enormous quantities of garbage, the city council considered making it illegal for non-homeless Seattle residents to dump trash in the encampments.

wait wut? making it illegal for non-homeless So that means it is legal for homeless? Welcome to the modern Democrat Ru(i)n City.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 10:52 AM (JFO2v)


I do wonder how they'll enforce it. Will everyone be required to carry papers? You! Yes, you! That gum wrapper you just dropped, are you homeless? Let me see your papers? Oh!! It says you have a nice, 3 bedroom studio near downtown... off to the gulag with you!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 10:57 AM (cY3LT)

174 The hold-out NeverTrumpers still harbor under the illusion that once Trump is out of the way--by any means necessary--the clock gets reset back to 2015.

They don't understand that Trump already changed the game. Even if he loses in 2020, there's no going back.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2019 10:57 AM (NFEMn)

175 I'm re-reading Fatherland by Robert Harris. In 1964 in an alternate Berlin in which Hitler won and old man Joe Kennedy is president of the U.S., Kriminalpolizei SS Sturmbahnfuehrer Xavier March investigates the possible suicide or accidental death of an elderly retired high official in the General Government of the rump state of Poland and discovers that several other formerly high ranking Nazis have died or gone missing. Meanwhile, Kennedy is coming to Berlin to meet Hitler with an eye toward easing the cold war tensions between the US and Germany that have arisen since the US's defeat in 1946.

SPOILER ALERT: I like the premise. Heydrich, who was promoted to the head of the SS after the assassination of Himmler, in an effort to insure that no untoward history might arise to spoil the US / Germany detente, is cleaning house of any Wannsee Conference participants who might spill the beans. The idea that these conspirators might fall out seems realistic and appeals to me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 10:57 AM (+y/Ru)

176 RE: nevertrumpers, I have a much simpler theory. They are being paid to say what they say, and they were never "conservatives" to begin with.

Posted by: artemis at May 19, 2019 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

177 I know this belongs on the food thread, but when I goes up I'll be on a ferry in Kachemak Bay, so....

Last week we were discussing air fryers and one of Amazon's Deals of the Day today is on a large-capacity Secura air fryer for $75. Looks like a good deal and the product seems to get good reviews.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 19, 2019 10:57 AM (1FsHh)

178 Replace that semi-colon with a comma.

If valid -- and I'm willing to debate it -- that would be the first time in 20 years that a semi was used where a comma belonged.
I'm convinced that many people have misplaced the full-stop on their keyboard, they simply keep typing, and when the page is full, they load a shotgun with commas and, let fly
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Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:58 AM (8ZmvG)

179 So, if Trump doesn't win in 2020, isn't there a better case to refuse to accept the results of the election given all the Deep State bullshit we've seen get uncovered from last time around?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (oVJmc)

180 Last year, despite overwhelming evidence that homeless encampments were generating enormous quantities of garbage, the city council considered making it illegal for non-homeless Seattle residents to dump trash in the encampments.

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That's what compassion looks (and smells) like.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (+y/Ru)

181 I've noticed this too, and I've come to the conclusion that it's probably because people are always in such a rush to get things published onto their website. In the olden days, when we relied on the printed newspaper, there was more time for editors to get involved and really, well, edit. Nowadays, if they even have editors at all, it's probably a cursory glance and then hit "publish." Everyone wants to be the first with the story, same as in the olden days, but the timing is much tighter now.

This is all based on nothing but my imagination, by the way.

Although I have to agree that the basics of writing are probably not taught much these days.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:56 AM (aXucN)

I think you nailed it. I would only add that there are fewer readers even literate enough to notice the decline of writing--so fewer people pointing it out.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (NFEMn)

182 We homeschool our daughter using a curriculum entitled Classical Conversations. We diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, teach the difference between "its" and "it's" but instead of beatings we also teach Latin.

Posted by: motionview at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (pYQR/)

183 Last year, despite overwhelming evidence that homeless encampments were generating enormous quantities of garbage, the city council considered making it illegal for non-homeless Seattle residents to dump trash in the encampments.


Dang! I've got two old tube televisions to dump!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 11:00 AM (oVJmc)

184 but instead of beatings we also teach Latin.
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Embrace the power of "And"!

Posted by: The Dominicans at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (kQs4Y)

185 I think the other reason that so much writing today is poorly edited is that people only edit what they see on the screen. To truly proofread--particularly for organization and repetition--you need to print out a hard copy.

I used to teach writing, and my students initially thought I was just being old when I said this. By the end of the semester, they were converted.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (1FsHh)

186 182 We homeschool our daughter using a curriculum entitled Classical Conversations. We diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, teach the difference between "its" and "it's" but instead of beatings we also teach Latin.
Posted by: motionview at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (pYQR/)

That's good. Actual beatings are not a particularly effective pedagogical tool.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

187 I recently read "Chasing Icarus: The Seventeen Days in 1910 that Forever Changed American Aviation" by Gavin Mortimer. It centers on a period in October when three major events were unfolding: The dirigible America left Atlantic City in an attempt to cross the Atlantic, an international ballon race started from St. Louis, and an air meet was held at Belmont Park racetrack in New York featuring leading aviators and their state-of-the-art airplanes.

Balloons had been around for over 100 years, but airships and sirplanes were still new. Each had their advocates and detractors. Balloons couldn't be steered, of course, but one balloonist observed that no airplane could remain aloft for 72 hours. Only an airship which was powered and steered was thought to be capable of an Atlantic crossing.

The author interweaves these three tales. Fliers and spectators at the air show read newspaper accounts of a balloon crew that had been missing for days and was feared lost in the Canadian wilderness. Tens of thousands of people attended the air meet which lasted two weeks, including the cream of New York society.

At the time, most people had never seen an airplane, and the spectators were wowed by their first sight of a plant flying past the grandstand. But they quickly became jaded, and demanded more thrills like stunts and speed and distance records. Some of the aviators thought the spectators were ghouls who just wanted to see a crash. Reporters don't come across well, either. I know you'll find that shocking.

The Wright Brothers first flew in 1903, and the first flight in Europe was in 1906. Wilbur Wright gave public exhibitions in France in 1908, and the Euros quickly caught up with their airplane designs. Things started moving quickly after that. Aviators became celebrities, and the competition for speed, distance, and altitude records was fierce. At the end of 1909 the world altitude record was 508 feet. By the end of 1910 it was over 11,000 feet.

All that progress came at a fearful cost, as you can imagine. Many of the early aviation pioneers were killed in accidents.

I enjoyed the book, but then again this is the sort of book I enjoy.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (sdi6R)

188 So, if Trump doesn't win in 2020, isn't there a better case to refuse to accept the results of the election given all the Deep State bullshit we've seen get uncovered from last time around?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (oVJmc)

If Trump loses and there's even a hint or "smidgen" of corruption in the way the votes were tallied--or if there were illegal votes--not only will Trump fight it tooth and nail, the only people complaining about that will be the people who have been pulling the same shit since he was elected.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2019 11:02 AM (NFEMn)

189 But she mercilessly ridiculed people with overly ostentatious vocabularies so my path was a narrow one.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:54 AM (y7DUB)
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The funny thing is, if you read older books, you notice that people's vocabularies were much more varied than they are today. What we might consider ostentatious today was most likely everyday language back 100 years ago or so.

Here's a funny story: recently my nephew was in some European city with his family (they live over there), and they asked a guy sweeping the street some question or other. He replied in perfect English with only the slightest accent, and my nephew (age 23) didn't know what one of the words meant (I can't remember what it was now). He said "Great, I'm not qualified to be a street sweeper in Europe. I'm starting to reevaluate my whole education."

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:02 AM (aXucN)

190 I've noticed this too, and I've come to the
conclusion that it's probably because people are always in such a rush
to get things published onto their website. In the olden days, when we
relied on the printed newspaper, there was more time for editors to get
involved and really, well, edit. Nowadays, if they even have editors at
all, it's probably a cursory glance and then hit "publish." Everyone
wants to be the first with the story, same as in the olden days, but the
timing is much tighter now.


Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:56 AM (aXucN)
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There are no editors. That's the big difference. Even a good writer needs an editor from time to time.

It's clear that many web-based publications are simply generating content on a 24 hour clock. They need so many pieces to load so often to keep the clicks coming. American Greatness is quite good, but I've seen more than a few errors that I would chalk up (get it!) to the urge to get them up on the site.

Basically, blogs are fading and collective blogs are taking their place, so you get the same typos and immediacy but more voices. Meh.

I've taken on a gig at a pop culture site and I'm generally on the hook for one article a week, self-edited. Already I'm noticing it cuts deeply into my novel time, but since I'm still working out plot details, I'm content for the moment.

I've also noticed that my stuff gets front-paged for maybe a few hours before the next item in rotation hits. It's also not uncommon for a mass email from the editor (really the compiler) who says "more content, stat!"

I learned to write quickly and correctly and well because both of my parents were reporters when they met and my father became a copy editor for 30 years. So self-editing is something I learned from birth.

But I still screw it up, as the botched first printing of Three Weeks with the Coasties demonstrated.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:03 AM (cfSRQ)

191 Perhaps the Seattle homeless could be rendered into mulch. Organic, locally sourced, free-range, non-GMO (unless you count heroin) and sustainable. A very "green" solution, if you ask me.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:04 AM (NWiLs)

192 Thank you. Mother Hate was not what most people
would consider highly educated but she thought it important that her
offspring, even my idiot brother, be well spoken. But she mercilessly
ridiculed people with overly ostentatious vocabularies so my path was a
narrow one.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:54 AM (y7DUB)


My step-mom was a math teacher, and very well spoken, and a good teacher to both students and the other younger teachers she mentored, but she tended to pronounce those French "status words" like English is pronounced, on purpose: Accoutrements came out as 'Ah-cooter-monts' for example.
I always saw it as her saying, "these things are important, but don't pretend they make you special"

I trace part of my urge to stick my finger in the eyes of the special class from her.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:04 AM (KTmSx)

193 If valid -- and I'm willing to debate it -- that would be the first time in 20 years that a semi was used where a comma belonged.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:58 AM (8ZmvG)
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Agreed! And I was joking more than anything else, although I wouldn't use a semi-colon there myself.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:04 AM (aXucN)

194 When we went to Gettysburg there are some shops that sell Civil War era newspapers. They make a great gift and I buy some just for the covers and they are only like 10, 20 dollars.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 19, 2019 11:06 AM (dKiJG)

195 Worth linking:

https://tinyurl.com/y5b4t7yg


Jacksfilms has a series of vids called "Your Grammar Sucks." Some say Jack has been dubbed one of the funniest youtubers in the world... literally.

Please note, there are 117 vids in this series. If you can't get enough of the trainwreck that is modern English usage on teh internetz, check out Jack's videos. You might, by the end of it, find that you have indeed, gotten enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 11:06 AM (cY3LT)

196 But I still screw it up, as the botched first printing of Three Weeks with the Coasties demonstrated.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:03 AM (cfSRQ)
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Let us not speak of the three copies of Jane D'oh's Charleston Shrimp in The Deplorable Gourmet, nor of the two copies of Tami's something-or-other.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:06 AM (aXucN)

197 The 'Even Fantasy Is Offensive' story is delicious in a satisfyingly cannibalistic way.

I have heard that it is impossible to get a YA novel published now without including at least one homosexual relationship.

I buy less and less science fiction, which I used to devour voraciously. I attributed this to advancing age, but I think also that the level of political correctness, and the constant reduction in the range of acceptable topics in SF, also has something to do with it.

For example, George Alec Effinger wrote three wonderful novels set in a 22nd-century Middle East between 1987-1991. Today, he would be pilloried for anti-Arab racism, Islamaphobia, and much else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 11:07 AM (I2/tG)

198 170 154 Every week I click on the awful pants picture, and then I wonder why did I click on that awful pants picture. Even sadder is the fact that there are so many awful pants pictures out there in the wild.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)
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I always think "If this is what OregonMuse is willing to show us, what other horrors has he beheld?"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 10:55 AM (kQs4Y)


Let's just say that I will never run out of ugly pants pics.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 11:07 AM (b7IdW)

199 The funny thing is, if you read older books, you notice that people's vocabularies were much more varied than they are today. What we might consider ostentatious today was most likely everyday language back 100 years ago or so.

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One example, Sullivan Ballou's letter to his wife.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1VK1KcZoDu0

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

200 Two humbling thoughts about writing and education have been hitting me. If you look at some of the older writers, like C S Lewis and T S Eliot, it's scary how much they'd been taught before college. Reading them (and Ronald Knox) it's frustrating how often they just quote things in other languages and expect the reader to understand. There's a passage in Newman, on entry exams to college, in which he explicitly says that English to Latin translations are not good enough if they are merely accurate; you needed to get the Latin style right.

And it wasn't just the brilliant ones like that, either. My grandmother never went to college, but her French and Latin were far beyond mine after the BA. She'd also picked up some German and even Finnish. (OK, the French came from her mother. But not the others.)

And I have a great uncle's diary, covering the 1870s - 1920s. He too never went to college (which he regretted). There are passages in French, German (fraktur), Latin, Greek.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 11:08 AM (VaN/j)

201 Actual beatings are not a particularly effective pedagogical tool.

You're not being very open-minded on this. Centuries of English "public school" say otherwise.

I'll bore you once again with this old story. I had a work chum, a manager of a smallish federal facility, who had pretty much just made it through high school (he exhibited some "other skills and talents" later, and rose through the ranks). He could not spell to save his life, and his native grammar was atrocious -- although generally speaking, his common sense was not bad at all.

He knew he couldn't write. So, he carried a little spelling dictionary and a business grammar guide booklet with him, in his coat pocket. He never left anything more than a note without doing a draft and proofreading it. As a result, he was the best business writer on our staff, and that included a couple of mid-level execs who had secretaries. I used to pick on him in meetings, holding him up as an example to a bunch of MBA's who, let's face it, had no damn excuse.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:10 AM (8ZmvG)

202 I always think "If this is what OregonMuse is willing to show us, what other horrors has he beheld?"

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I sent OM a picture that he declined to share and which, unfortunately, I can't find now. It was of a very shapely young lady wearing stretch pants that were a map of the world.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (+y/Ru)

203 At the time, most people had never seen an airplane,
and the spectators were wowed by their first sight of a plant flying
past the grandstand. But they quickly became jaded, and demanded more
thrills like stunts and speed and distance records. Some of the
aviators thought the spectators were ghouls who just wanted to see a
crash. Reporters don't come across well, either. I know you'll find
that shocking.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (sdi6R)

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My great-grandfather was in the AEF. He was from a small town in rural Ohio, got drafted and found himself in the Meuse-Argonne.

In one of his letters home he writes about being in reserve and seeing lots of airplanes every day. Must have been quite a shock.

He died a couple of years after I was born and was a skeptic of the lunar landing. My dad thought that silly, but I pointed out to him that the guy had gone from no powered flight to rocketships and his mind probably couldn't grasp all the changes that happened.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (cfSRQ)

204 Guy in the first picture has giant feet.

Posted by: irright at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (RVcmP)

205 But she mercilessly ridiculed people with overly ostentatious vocabularies so my path was a narrow one.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 10:54 AM (y7DUB)
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The funny thing is, if you read older books, you notice that people's vocabularies were much more varied than they are today. What we might consider ostentatious today was most likely everyday language back 100 years ago or so.


Some of the old newspapers used to have a "word of the day (week, month, whatever)" feature that she was adept at detecting the unexpected inclusion in conversations by her snooty acquaintances.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (y7DUB)

206 182 We homeschool our daughter using a curriculum entitled Classical Conversations. We diagram sentences, memorize grammar and punctuation rules, teach the difference between "its" and "it's" but instead of beatings we also teach Latin.
Posted by: motionview at May 19, 2019 10:59 AM (pYQR/)
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I don't know. Johnson told Boswell that "they beat the Latin into us". Seemed to work.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (VaN/j)

207 I've already found three typos in my review.

*hangs head*

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 11:12 AM (sdi6R)

208 If valid -- and I'm willing to debate it -- that
would be the first time in 20 years that a semi was used where a comma
belonged.
I'm convinced that many people have misplaced the full-stop
on their keyboard, they simply keep typing, and when the page is full,
they load a shotgun with commas and, let fly
,Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:58 AM (8ZmvG)


My writing goal is to mix in both long and short sentences. Long sentences help the laying out of facts and setting tone, and the short sentences tie multiple ideas together, and give a nice stylistic punch to wake the reader up.
I consider it like the couplet at the end of a sonnet, to tie the whole together.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:13 AM (KTmSx)

209 Where would my vocabulary be without books*? The vocabulary in the average conversation is pretty basic. Although the more you read, the more you tend to hang out with folks impressive vocabularies.

Who these days uses "antimacassar" or "absquatulate"? Not enough people, that's who!

*Or in the case of "hoydenish", National Lampoon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:13 AM (kQs4Y)

210 I sent OM a picture that he declined to share and
which, unfortunately, I can't find now. It was of a very shapely young
lady wearing stretch pants that were a map of the world.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (+y/Ru)

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Reminds me of Carrie Fisher talking about how the Slave Girl Leia outfit wasn't very form-fitting. She said the guy standing behind her in the Boba Fett suit could look down and see "all the way to Florida."

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)

211
That's good. Actual beatings are not a particularly effective pedagogical tool.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

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They are good for improving morale though.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 11:15 AM (4knXT)

212 The results of the next election are likely to be overshadowed by some riots.
Today's stars will be a bit shopworn and in need of replacement.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 19, 2019 11:15 AM (RuIsu)

213 209
Where would my vocabulary be without books*? The vocabulary in the
average conversation is pretty basic. Although the more you read, the
more you tend to hang out with folks impressive vocabularies.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:13 AM (kQs4Y)
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I recall that right after the Man of Destiny books started coming out, someone figured I must be English because of my prose style, the parliamentary system of government, etc.

Nope, but I've been reading Waugh obsessively for the last couple of years. I guess it left a mark.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:16 AM (cfSRQ)

214 Who these days uses "antimacassar" or "absquatulate"? Not enough people, that's who!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:13 AM (kQs4Y)
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When my kids were little, there was a kids' show called Big Comfy Couch (no idea if it's still around). One of the characters was Auntie Macassar. I knew what it meant, but I wondered how many others did.

I have no idea what "absquatulate" means.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:16 AM (aXucN)

215 211
That's good. Actual beatings are not a particularly effective pedagogical tool.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

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They are good for improving morale though.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 11:15 AM (4knXT)

LOL

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:17 AM (NWiLs)

216 197 I buy less and less science fiction, which I used to devour voraciously.

I was just thinking that this topic might make a great Book Thread topic. I love science fiction, and spend way too much time sifting through the book store aisled trying to find good, new science fiction. One issue is the dominance over the past 10 - 20 years of fantasy over science fiction. To me combining fantasy and science fiction sections is like combining romance and mystery. There is more and more fantasy and less and less science fiction.

I may be a bit too paranoid (or not enough?) but I believe there is a culture war motive. Science fiction is about expanding boundaries, new ideas, new concepts, freeing the imagination to do new and incredible things. Fantasy is diversion. The SJWs that run the publishing industry want to talk about the struggles of trans-gender POC in the male-dominated world of wizardry, not the challenges of humanity in reaching for the stars.

Posted by: motionview at May 19, 2019 11:17 AM (pYQR/)

217 I have no idea what "absquatulate" means.



Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:16 AM (aXucN)

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It's possibly related to "absofuckinglutely" I think.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:18 AM (cfSRQ)

218 203
My great-grandfather was in the AEF. He was from a small town in rural Ohio, got drafted and found himself in the Meuse-Argonne.

In one of his letters home he writes about being in reserve and seeing lots of airplanes every day. Must have been quite a shock.

He died a couple of years after I was born and was a skeptic of the lunar landing. My dad thought that silly, but I pointed out to him that the guy had gone from no powered flight to rocketships and his mind probably couldn't grasp all the changes that happened.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (cfSRQ)
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My grandfather was in the AEF, and flew Spads. I've still got the Squadron symbol from his plane, with the one Iron Cross. (He always insisted he got two, but didn't get credit for the 2nd.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 11:19 AM (VaN/j)

219 I'm convinced that many people have misplaced the full-stop

on their keyboard, they simply keep typing, and when the page is full,

they load a shotgun with commas and, let fly
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Strewn randomly throughout masses of words like sprinkled sparkles from a magic wand. My own method, by the way.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 11:20 AM (MIKMs)

220 Actual Headline from NYT:

"It Was Supposed to Be Australia's Climate Change Election. What Happened?"

LOL

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at May 19, 2019 11:20 AM (FiUMj)

221 I have no idea what "absquatulate" means.
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It's a playful made-up word meaning "to get up, leave" (away from) + (a squatting position)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:21 AM (kQs4Y)

222 If valid -- and I'm willing to debate it -- that
would be the first time in 20 years that a semi was used where a comma belonged.

I'm convinced that many people have misplaced the full-stop
on their keyboard, they simply keep typing, and when the page is full, they load a shotgun with commas and, let fly
,Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 10:58 AM (8ZmvG)


I'm picturing something like Homer Simpson's makeup shotgun. Blam!!! Oh no! I had it set to Marcel Proust!!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 11:22 AM (cY3LT)

223 My step-mom was a math teacher, and very well spoken, and a good teacher to both students and the other younger teachers she mentored, but she tended to pronounce those French "status words" like English is pronounced, on purpose: Accoutrements came out as 'Ah-cooter-monts' for example.
I always saw it as her saying, "these things are important, but don't pretend they make you special"

I trace part of my urge to stick my finger in the eyes of the special class from her.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:04 AM (KTmSx)


As well spoken as my mother was she became an inarticulate train wreck when she asked me questions when I was learning French. I just stopped talking to her about it after a point to save her from herself.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 11:22 AM (y7DUB)

224 Let us not speak of the three copies of Jane D'oh's
Charleston Shrimp in The Deplorable Gourmet, nor of the two copies of
Tami's something-or-other.


Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:06 AM (aXucN)


I only noticed the shrimp recipe because I own a copy of the book Jane D'oh got the recipe (receipt) from.

I always self edit, except on certain blogs' comment section when I am noodling stuff out.
I used to play a game called "kill the commas and remove all superfluous words." My boss finally told me to knock it off for memos and condensations of reports.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:22 AM (KTmSx)

225 It's a playful made-up word meaning "to get up, leave" (away from) + (a squatting position)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:21 AM (kQs4Y)

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So I was actually pretty close. Hah!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:23 AM (cfSRQ)

226 I may be a bit too paranoid (or not enough?) but I believe there is a culture war motive

Absolutely. Robert Heinlein had an significant impact on pushing the whole country towards conservatism while he was writing.

The SJW gatekeepers have no intention of letting that happen again.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 11:23 AM (I2/tG)

227 I sent OM a picture that he declined to share and which, unfortunately, I can't find now. It was of a very shapely young lady wearing stretch pants that were a map of the world.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:11 AM (+y/Ru)


Heh. If I used that pic, you'd be able to hear the 'rons fapping as far out as the asteroid belt.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 11:23 AM (b7IdW)

228
Yeah, but I'm going to finish Gibbon anyway.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd


Don't monkey around.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2019 11:23 AM (aKsyK)

229 "Great, I'm not qualified to be a street sweeper in Europe. I'm starting to reevaluate my whole education."

God help me, I do love it so.

Near me is one of those mid-sized midwestern cities that used to be damn classy, and proud of its cultural accomplishments. And the museum there, one of the ten best in the country, loves to tell the tale of a major show they had in the early Fifties. One of the New York papers sent one of its art critics to cover it. He got off the train, hailed a cab, and when the cabbie heard the destination, he talked him through a complete description of the entire show, with commentary. The big city art critic was suitably put in his place.

We do not know if the cab driver was a part-time art major, or an out-of-work art critic, or just an actual fan. But the newspaper critic left town with the idea that even the cabbies here were connoisseurs.

Last time us'n's got any respect from out that way.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:23 AM (8ZmvG)

230 Just doing my part for diversity:

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2014/08/20-victorian-terms-seem-oddly-modern

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)

231 I have no idea what "absquatulate" means.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:16 AM (aXucN)

I think it's a CrossFit exercise.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

232 My step-mom was a math teacher, and very well spoken, and a good teacher to both students and the other younger teachers she mentored, but she tended to pronounce those French "status words" like English is pronounced, on purpose: Accoutrements came out as 'Ah-cooter-monts' for example.

I always saw it as her saying, "these things are important, but don't pretend they make you special"

I trace part of my urge to stick my finger in the eyes of the special class from her.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:04 AM (KTmSx)


I'm a big fan of that sort of thing. My favorite is ennui. Which I insist on pronouncing as "Enn YOU weeee!"

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 11:26 AM (cY3LT)

233 >> escaped oafs who follow words with their fingers
>> and whose lips move as they read
Wow. This thread is hoity-toity.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 11:26 AM (o2vOl)

234 Captain Hate, there was an Austrian immigrant that my family knew, who mentioned once that when his kids were taking French in high school, they forbade him from helping them work on their conversational French even though he spoke it fluently. Their teacher couldn't understand his accent.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:26 AM (KTmSx)

235 89. I don't think people who never read vic-lit appreciate just how hilarious that book is.
I find that with Trollope as well. My husband thinks I have lost my mind while I'm crocheting and listening to Phineas Finn and snort-laughing.

Yes, I snort when I laugh. So there.

Posted by: SummaMamaT at May 19, 2019 11:27 AM (84ClH)

236 My grandfather was in the AEF, and flew Spads. I've
still got the Squadron symbol from his plane, with the one Iron Cross.
(He always insisted he got two, but didn't get credit for the 2nd.)

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 11:19 AM (VaN/j)

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That's pretty cool. My great-grandfather had an enormous collection of war trophies (he was in the Army of Occupation) kept in a special closet. After he died, the closet was opened and found empty. The family suspects relatives of his second wife (his first died in the 30s).

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 11:28 AM (cfSRQ)

237 I think it's a CrossFit exercise.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)
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Oh, you'd know if it was a CrossFit thing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:28 AM (kQs4Y)

238 The discussion of meticulous editing brings to mind a story I read recently on Amazon management. Apparently they have banned PowerPoint from their meetings, and require the meeting lead to write and distribute a short memo a few days before the meeting. No reading slides to people in a meeting, but rather a discussion of material one has had a chance to consider.

Posted by: motionview at May 19, 2019 11:29 AM (pYQR/)

239 237 I think it's a CrossFit exercise.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)
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Oh, you'd know if it was a CrossFit thing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:28 AM (kQs4Y)

This is true. They'd be knocking on my door at 0700 on Saturday morning to ask if I'd heard about the WOD.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:29 AM (NWiLs)

240 But she had a Great AsA Great AsA Great
Asteroid Belt!

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:29 AM (8ZmvG)

241 http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2014/08/20-victorian-terms-seem-oddly-modern
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)
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I feel the need to start working "podsnappery" and "batty-fang" into my everyday vocabulary.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:30 AM (aXucN)

242 197 The 'Even Fantasy Is Offensive' story is delicious in a satisfyingly cannibalistic way.

I have heard that it is impossible to get a YA novel published now without including at least one homosexual relationship.

I buy less and less science fiction, which I used to devour voraciously. I attributed this to advancing age, but I think also that the level of political correctness, and the constant reduction in the range of acceptable topics in SF, also has something to do with it.

For example, George Alec Effinger wrote three wonderful novels set in a 22nd-century Middle East between 1987-1991. Today, he would be pilloried for anti-Arab racism, Islamaphobia, and much else.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 11:07 AM (I2/tG)

Just reading the King Killer series WISE MANS FEAR the main character is being trained in a Spartan like school of war and all the Trainers are Female and they best and Females are better fighters than men. I had a neighbor that was a Grandmaster in Medieval armor fighting. I was 18 playing college football and I had a hell of time lifting his swords and maces. It's so stupid

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 19, 2019 11:30 AM (dKiJG)

243 I'm a big fan of that sort of thing. My favorite is ennui. Which I insist on pronouncing as "Enn YOU weeee!"
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In the very loud and Noisy state, French and German place names are deliberately and and with malice aforethought given 'Americanized' pronunciations.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 11:30 AM (MIKMs)

244
I always saw it as her saying, "these things are important, but don't pretend they make you special"
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A friend of mine quite purposely says 'Whores doovers', whenever such appear on a menu.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)

245 244
I always saw it as her saying, "these things are important, but don't pretend they make you special"
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A friend of mine quite purposely says 'Whores doovers', whenever such appear on a menu.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)

Ahem. The correct pronunciation is "horse dorvis."

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:32 AM (NWiLs)

246 A friend of mine quite purposely says 'Whores doovers', whenever such appear on a menu.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)
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Please alert said friend to the proper pronunciation: "horse doovers."

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:33 AM (aXucN)

247 Absolutely. Robert Heinlein had an significant impact on pushing the whole country towards conservatism while he was writing.
The SJW gatekeepers have no intention of letting that happen again.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 11:23 AM (I2/tG)

Even as a kid, I liked Heinlein's take in Starship Troopers that the only way to get the franchise was to serve the nation in some capacity first.

Cut out the moochers that way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 11:33 AM (Z+IKu)

248 Does anyone have a recommendation for a good book detailing the theories underlying architectural design?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 19, 2019 11:33 AM (Jlgwr)

249 246 A friend of mine quite purposely says 'Whores doovers', whenever such appear on a menu.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)
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Please alert said friend to the proper pronunciation: "horse doovers."

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:33 AM (aXucN)

Oh, so close, so very very close!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (NWiLs)

250 I feel the need to start working "podsnappery" and "batty-fang" into my everyday vocabulary.


Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:30 AM (aXucN)


Start simple and eventually you can work up to "septentrional" and "sesquipedalian"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (KTmSx)

251 Kindltot,

I don't speak French as fluently as I'd like but I never had any problem making myself understood or understanding the speaker in most parts of the country. But there was a waitress in some part of the Loire valley that my ability to understand just completely shut down and my youngest daughter had to take over.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (y7DUB)

252 Everyone should read MacKay's "Extraordinary Popular Delusions . . . "

Ah, but I have, based upon a prior recommendation several years ago here at AoS. Gutenberg version, natch, as I'm a cheapskate.

In that vein, David P. Goldman (Spengler from PJ Media) has written a spy thriller titled The Quantum Supremacy, which has been serialized at the Asia Times into 8 parts:

https://tinyurl.com/y6775nbe

The link goes to the last part, and conveniently contains links to the other 7 parts (you might want to start at Part 1 lol).

I'm on Part 6 atm. I'm not a big spy thriller fan, but the book does contain a number of useful insights about China, cryptography, and quantum computers. I like this analogy, paraphrased --

Someone has placed an X on one page in a book in the Library of Congress. A digital computer will search all 50 million volumes, one book and page at a time. A quantum computer will search all 50 million volumes together, one page at a time.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2019 11:35 AM (Z4rgH)

253
Ahem. The correct pronunciation is "horse dorvis."
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:32 AM (NWiLs)

246 A friend of mine quite purposely says 'Whores doovers', whenever such appear on a menu.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:31 AM (xSo9G)
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Please alert said friend to the proper pronunciation: "horse doovers."

Posted by: bluebell
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*takes notes*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:35 AM (CDGwz)

254 Oh, so close, so very very close!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (NWiLs)
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Hey, my pronunciation is the correct one. After all, I minored in French in college.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:35 AM (aXucN)

255 When hoiting and toiting, one needs three different versions of any foreign term of any falute whatsoever.
One, that is as close as you can get to how it's really supposed to sound.
A second, that expresses the term in a way that a well-read but English-only acquaintance might recognize, and

A third, deliberately wrong and used as parody of those who falute highly.

A lucky man will never find himself in mixed company in this regard.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:35 AM (8ZmvG)

256 I don't speak French as fluently as I'd like but I never had any problem making myself understood or understanding the speaker in most parts of the country. But there was a waitress in some part of the Loire valley that my ability to understand just completely shut down and my youngest daughter had to take over.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (y7DUB)
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My sister-in-law majored in French and was a translator for the US government and could not understand anyone in Quebec when she went there to visit.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:37 AM (aXucN)

257 I think I have Mayor Buttplug figured out.

He's been overly ambitious since HS, creating a record for a political career, and kept his gayness on the down low until 2015, into his second mayoral term. Then he met his husband on a gay dating app and came out.

He has no near-term political future to match his ambition. He's in the Midwest, and only has appeal to the Richest, Deep Blue places. So he's a huge negative as a VP nominee.

He wants to be Rachel Maddow. Big salary, big visibility, book deals. Possibilities down the road. If I were Chris Hayes, I'd be worried. MSNBC has found someone gayer than you.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 11:37 AM (1UZdv)

258 "go ask the mayter-dee if we can get some clean spoons"

"It's pronounced Maitre . . ."

"If it were really pronounced that way, the spoons would have been clean when we sat down, right?"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:37 AM (KTmSx)

259 254 Oh, so close, so very very close!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (NWiLs)
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Hey, my pronunciation is the correct one. After all, I minored in French in college.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:35 AM (aXucN)

Rubbish. But even so...
*lights Gaulois*
*takes a drag*
Eez all meaningless, non?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:37 AM (NWiLs)

260 there was a waitress in some part of the Loire valley that my ability to understand just completely shut down

Indeed, mon ami, we have such waitresses in ma ville as well.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:38 AM (8ZmvG)

261 Last week we were discussing air fryers and one of Amazon's Deals of the Day today is on a large-capacity Secura air fryer for $75. Looks like a good deal and the product seems to get good reviews.
Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 19, 2019 10:57 AM (1FsHh)

Seems to me that "air fryer" is an oxymoron that means "oven". I mean, the whole point of frying something is to slather it in delicious grease.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 11:38 AM (7njPr)

262 260 there was a waitress in some part of the Loire valley that my ability to understand just completely shut down

Indeed, mon ami, we have such waitresses in ma ville as well.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:38 AM (8ZmvG)

Heh. What's French for "hummina hummina hummina"?

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:39 AM (NWiLs)

263 I was fascinated by Winds of War and War and Remembrance.

The Caine Mutiny was fantastic too.

RIP, Herman Wouk

Posted by: kbdabear at May 19, 2019 11:39 AM (0Ntuf)

264 I'm a big fan of that sort of thing. My favorite is ennui. Which I insist on pronouncing as "Enn YOU weeee!"
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In the very loud and Noisy state, French and German place names are deliberately and and with malice aforethought given 'Americanized' pronunciations.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 11:30 AM (MIKMs)


Oh, we already do that here! Lots of place names, original french names, are now St. Louisized.

There's a public radio program on it:

https://tinyurl.com/yy69naae

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2019 11:40 AM (cY3LT)

265 Oh, so close, so very very close!
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:34 AM (NWiLs)
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Hey, my pronunciation is the correct one. After all, I minored in French in college.
Posted by: bluebell
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I believe Insom meant in the temporal sense.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:40 AM (CDGwz)

266 Eez all meaningless, non?
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:37 AM (NWiLs)
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Oui, c'est vrai, ça.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:40 AM (aXucN)

267 216 197 I buy less and less science fiction, which I used to devour voraciously.

I was just thinking that this topic might make a great Book Thread topic. I love science fiction, and spend way too much time sifting through the book store aisled trying to find good, new science fiction. One issue is the dominance over the past 10 - 20 years of fantasy over science fiction. To me combining fantasy and science fiction sections is like combining romance and mystery. There is more and more fantasy and less and less science fiction.

I may be a bit too paranoid (or not enough?) but I believe there is a culture war motive. Science fiction is about expanding boundaries, new ideas, new concepts, freeing the imagination to do new and incredible things. Fantasy is diversion. The SJWs that run the publishing industry want to talk about the struggles of trans-gender POC in the male-dominated world of wizardry, not the challenges of humanity in reaching for the stars.
Posted by: motionview at May 19, 2019 11:17 AM (pYQR/)

Funny sci-fi
The hardluck Hanks series
Space grifters

I have been reading some sci-fi which talks about the collapse of the government because of socialism or they talk about how his life is terrible under socialist policies because there's nowhere to go and so they join the military.

Terms of enlightenment (frontlines 1)

The Empire's Corp, which really talks about the collapse of the earth Government and these Marines are on there own, with a hostile population and corrupt local government.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 19, 2019 11:41 AM (dKiJG)

268 I just finished Michael Behe's Darwin Devolves. I like popular books about science, especially quantum theory and cosmology, but my readings in biology come to maybe a dozen books at best, mostly about genetics and evolution. I've avoided books on intelligent design because such a dominant cohort in the biology world treat the idea as crackpottery. Behe had good credentials though so I figured I'd give it a go.

I thought his points were well made. Behe's thesis is that Darwin's mutations + natural selection explanation of the divergence of life worked okay when nobody understood how genetic information was stored and transmitted, and the field of molecular biology was completely unknown. However, current understanding about protein synthesis shows it would be statistically impossible for large-scale, useful add-on mutations to occur, even over the 3 billion years that life has been on Earth. On the other hand, the small-scale adaptations to local conditions that have clearly occurred (see, Darwin's finches) can be explained by mutations that damage and disable existing genetic information.

According to Behe, nobody has seriously attempted to explain how the pervasive and exquisitely precise changes in DNA coding that would permit large-scale mutations could have occurred naturally without killing the organism before any benefit would manifest itself. These are the types of mutations that foster the divergence of organisms at the family level or higher.

I'm still not sure whether problems in Darwinist theory support a leap to the idea if intelligent design but it's a topic that is at least worth further exploration.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 11:41 AM (4knXT)

269 266 Eez all meaningless, non?
Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:37 AM (NWiLs)
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Oui, c'est vrai, ça.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:40 AM (aXucN)

*mime rides by on bicycle*
*bombs start to fall on the cafe*
Aaaaand, scene! Cut it, print it.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:42 AM (NWiLs)

270 >> Hey, my pronunciation is the correct one. After all,
>> I minored in French in college.
>> Posted by: bluebell

..and yet, you've never called any of us a cushion (cochon).
Such fine manners.

Posted by: 40 miles north at May 19, 2019 11:43 AM (o2vOl)

271 Heh. What's French for "hummina hummina hummina"?


Omigod. You mean to tell me that hummina...is not French?

I need to review some of my correspondence. Could be in a heap o'trouble.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:43 AM (8ZmvG)

272 >>Where would my vocabulary be without books*? The vocabulary in the average conversation is pretty basic. Although the more you read, the more you tend to hang out with folks impressive vocabularies.

My grandfather on my mothers side was the smartest person I've ever met. He was a professor, author, foundation head, political advisor, yada.

His library at home was one of the most magnificent rooms you can imagine. It was built for contemplation and reading which he did constantly. The bookshelves were crammed with books of all sorts but mostly history and politics.

He also had an enormous Webster's dictionary mounted on it's own stand. Thing weighs as much as a small compact car. He was a great teacher and taught me a lot but if we ever came across a word I didn't know he would send me to the dictionary and then we would discuss it. I learned more about words and vocabulary from him than I ever did in school.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 11:44 AM (/tuJf)

273 For example, George Alec Effinger wrote three wonderful novels set in a 22nd-century Middle East between 1987-1991. Today, he would be pilloried for anti-Arab racism, Islamaphobia, and much else.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 11:07 AM (I2/tG)


I have those 3 books, and have recommended them before here. Iirc, George had severe physical pain and the consequent drug addiction to go with it. Plus, he live in New Orleans so his future world looked a lot like Bourbon Street. Go figure, huh?

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2019 11:45 AM (Z4rgH)

274 The best pseudo-French accent ever, was voiced by Mel Blanc as Pepe Le Pew.

Were I ever to actually learn French, I would likely be unable to resist adopting the accent Le Skonk.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2019 11:45 AM (QzJWU)

275 Good morning horde,

This week, I read People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck. This was a re-read for me. It is a truly fascinating perspective from a psychiatrist regarding evil people and family dysfunction. There is a chapter where he also discusses demons and exorcisms which is scary to read about, but I do believe it is real. I just don't like to dwell on it.

Introverts in the Church by Adam McHugh. Discusses the idea that church services and church gatherings seem designed for extroverts and what the implications are for introverts. While there are complementary strengths that extroverts and introverts bring to the church, the church culture is primarily extroverted, and it can squelch, frustrate, and mortify introverts. Also, it is important to keep in mind that pastors and church staff will have different needs and strengths (as well as weaknesses) depending on their own introvertedness or extrovertedness.

I also started reading A Beautiful Place to Die (Martha Vineyard Mystery) that has been discussed briefly that past 2 weeks. I'm enjoying it so far.

Posted by: Violet at May 19, 2019 11:45 AM (pxpp+)

276 I continue with 'The Invention That Changed the World: How a Small Group of Radar Pioneers Won the Second World War and Launched a Technical Revolution'. A remarkable book, and is recommended to all with an interest in WWII, and especially to techno-nerdy types.

The first half is devoted to WWII developments re radar, and the second to post-war consequences.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2019 11:46 AM (CDGwz)

277 Oh, and big shout out of thanks to whomever recommended the Philip R. Craig mystery series featuring J.W. Jackson. Purchased the 1st three in the series and am leaving this lovely thread now to finish the first book. I can tell it's a series both Mr. Summa and I will enjoy. A worthy successor to my beloved Spenser and Travis McGee books.
Muchas gracias, whoever you were!

Posted by: SummaMamaT at May 19, 2019 11:46 AM (84ClH)

278 Stupid questions that crossed my mind while watching golf yesterday:
-Why are English players no longer represented by the Union Jack, substituted for that stupid red cross on a field of white?
-Can Brooks Koepka more thoroughly destroy a golf course? (Yeah, I might be a little gay for him...)

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2019 11:47 AM (ty7RM)

279 In France the only person I was absolutely unable to communicate with was the drunk skinhead cashier at a gas station on the autoroute at 3am. We had to shout through a bulletproof plastic partition, and maybe if the stupid cochon had bothered to turn off the godawful pop music he was blasting inside his little cubicle we might have had better luck.

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 19, 2019 11:47 AM (3+caa)

280 .
trompe-l'oeil
.

Our fearless leader, OM, has helpfully showcased an example of this art style. Darned if I can pronounce it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 11:47 AM (MIKMs)

281 Introverts in the Church by Adam McHugh. Discusses the idea that church services and church gatherings seem designed for extroverts and what the implications are for introverts. While there are complementary strengths that extroverts and introverts bring to the church, the church culture is primarily extroverted, and it can squelch, frustrate, and mortify introverts. Also, it is important to keep in mind that pastors and church staff will have different needs and strengths (as well as weaknesses) depending on their own introvertedness or extrovertedness.

Interesting. I think most organizations are structured to favor the extroverted, regardless of their competence or effectiveness.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 11:48 AM (NWiLs)

282 Now this is what fancy libraries should have!

https://twitter.com/41Strange/status/
1129882953096474624

In case you don't feel like taking the stairs, the Technical University of Munich, Germany, has slides on the 4th Floor

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2019 11:48 AM (Dh1wo)

283 Old English insults that could be band names:

https://tinyurl.com/y74crvkq

I saw Lubberwort open for Mumblecrust at St. Andrews!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:49 AM (kQs4Y)

284 What does it say about me when the first thing I check is These Pants?

I should know better by now.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 11:49 AM (WqhK3)

285 Larry Bond who co wrote a book with Tom Clancy

I did enjoy Red Phoenix which is about a North Korea attack on South Korea. It's interesting because one it's before the Gulf War and we really didn't know how good our Military was in the Late 80's and makes an interesting read.

I am surprised that their isn't more books about a fictional attack by North Korea or other type of fiction about the crazy NORKS.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 19, 2019 11:49 AM (dKiJG)

286 Also, I recently read Wouk's Sailor and Fiddler. He really has a way with words, and I plan to read more of his works. Plus he knew Richard Feynman!

Regarding Brad Thor--I'm not sure if he is still NT, but I don't trust him. I enjoyed some of his earlier works, but I haven't read his most recent stuff.

Posted by: Violet at May 19, 2019 11:49 AM (pxpp+)

287 I always sucked at both French and Latin. In French, about all I can do is ask where the library is. Latin was marginally better.

But about a decade ago I was reading Morison's Admiral of the Ocean Sea. There's a quote of the words used to call the crew to dinner. I actually could figure it out.

Also, it's clear that c. 1970, you could assume in England that people could understand basic French. When doing skits with "foreign languages", Benny Hill would use pseudo-German, Swedish, or Italian. But there were skits in actual French. There was one of a French dubbed Bonanza episode, with American accents. "Bone-joor Paw", etc.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (VaN/j)

288 PEt peeves, usage of words in ways that negate their original meaning.
For example, "incredible".
It's meaning has morphed in to something positive, good, praiseworthy.
It means no such thing. It means false. Beyond credulity.
Not possessing truth, or cred.

Not credible.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (w7KSn)

289 Darned if I can pronounce it.
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Traum-LEY

(I think)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (kQs4Y)

290 The vocabulary in the average conversation is pretty basic.

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My high school German teacher told us that the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (+y/Ru)

291 >>-Why are English players no longer represented by the Union Jack, substituted for that stupid red cross on a field of white?

Because the flag of St George is the original flag of England. The Union Jack is a compilation of the various countries that made up the UK.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (/tuJf)

292 The English flag is a red cross on a white background. The Union Jack is British.

Actually the Union Jack was first the flag of the king's navy, when the king wore many crowns, before Scotland formally joined England and Wales in the early 1700s to settle a debt.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 11:51 AM (1UZdv)

293 Just doing my part for diversity:

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2014/08/20-victorian-terms-seem-oddly-modern
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:24 AM (kQs4Y)

There is a lake in northern British Columbia officially named "Damfino Lake".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2019 11:51 AM (7njPr)

294 trompe-l'oeil
.

Our fearless leader, OM, has helpfully showcased an example of this art style. Darned if I can pronounce it.
Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 11:47 AM (MIKMs)
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Easiest way to explain it would be "tromp loy."

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:52 AM (aXucN)

295 According to Behe, nobody has seriously attempted to
explain how the pervasive and exquisitely precise changes in DNA coding
that would permit large-scale mutations could have occurred naturally
without killing the organism before any benefit would manifest itself.
These are the types of mutations that foster the divergence of organisms
at the family level or higher.



I'm still not sure whether problems in Darwinist theory support a
leap to the idea if intelligent design but it's a topic that is at least
worth further exploration.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 11:41 AM (4knXT)


Stephen Jay Gould proposed what he called "pre-adaption" a term that he disliked, for all that he invented it: in rough terms it means that an adaption or mutation that was not lethal then is used and modified to another use. His simplest example was the Panda's "thumb" which is not a digit, but an extension of a wrist bone that acts like a thumb for the panda's digits to work against while gripping.


Also, there are two other terms, one is reaaaaaly deep time, in which we have to realize how far back evolution goes, and the other is that most mutations are lethal, but mostly to the individual, not necessarily to the species as a whole.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 11:52 AM (KTmSx)

296 questions that crossed my mind while watching golf yesterday:
-Why are English players no longer represented by the Union Jack, substituted for that stupid red cross on a field of white?
-Can Brooks Koepka more thoroughly destroy a golf course? (Yeah, I might be a little gay for him...)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2019 11:47 AM (ty7RM)

That's the English flag, the Union Jack is for the United Kingdom. And no I don't understand it either, they do the same with soccer but not with the Olympics?

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at May 19, 2019 11:52 AM (dKiJG)

297 My sister-in-law majored in French and was a translator for the US government and could not understand anyone in Quebec when she went there to visit.

There's a funny story in Keegan's Six Armies in Normandy - the Canadians had a D-Day beach, and rapidly advanced inland and liberated several French villages.

The French, believing the soldiers to be British because of their uniforms, ran out of their houses to greet their liberators, only to be shocked.

"Mon Dieu! Where did these people learn such awful French?"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 19, 2019 11:52 AM (I2/tG)

298 >> Were I ever to actually learn French, I would likely
>> be unable to resist adopting the accent Le Skonk.

Me oui, Jean Claude, me oui.

Posted by: The French Peas at May 19, 2019 11:53 AM (o2vOl)

299 Oui, c'est vrai, ça.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:40 AM (aXucN)

I was thinking about this the other day, what's that "c" w/the little tail called?

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 11:53 AM (ykq7q)

300 281--Interesting. I think most organizations are structured to favor the
extroverted, regardless of their competence or effectiveness.

I agree Insomniac. There is another book called Quiet by Susan Cain that does a great job discussing the effects an extroverted world has on introverts.

Alrighty, gotta head out. Be back later!

Posted by: Violet at May 19, 2019 11:53 AM (pxpp+)

301 -Why are English players no longer represented by the Union Jack, substituted for that stupid red cross on a field of white?
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Is that Saint Andrew's Cross? Maybe that's their golfing ensign.

Japan still uses the Rising Sun flag as their naval ensign, and it has caused kerfluffles at joint exercises.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:53 AM (kQs4Y)

302 My high school German teacher told us that the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (+y/Ru)
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Yes, but they're each 50 letters long and composed of at least three words smaller words.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:54 AM (aXucN)

303 Eldest Kidlet just told me that she isn't enjoying book three of The Expanse nearly as much as the others. She is concerned by the ever-increasing number of points of view being followed and also isn't a fan of having a lesbian "reverend".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 11:54 AM (phT8I)

304 Why are English players no longer represented by the Union Jack, substituted for that stupid red cross on a field of white?

That stupid red cross is the flag of England.
The Union Jack is the flag of the United Kingdom, in its current version England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales.
I believe you will find Irish and Scots players using their old national colours, as teams from their little countries vie with the English and their little country. I can't speak for Wales and Cornwall -- but I wouldn't worry much until you see Northumbria and East Anglia using their own flags. Them guys swing a mean club.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 11:55 AM (8ZmvG)

305 Best book on introversion I've ever read is "Party of One" by Analee Rufus. I'd say "she really knocks it outta the park" but that's such an extroverted way to put it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at May 19, 2019 11:56 AM (kQs4Y)

306 291 >>-Why are English players no longer represented by the Union Jack, substituted for that stupid red cross on a field of white?

Because the flag of St George is the original flag of England. The Union Jack is a compilation of the various countries that made up the UK.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (/tuJf)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Jack

There's an animated gif partway down the page.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 11:56 AM (sdi6R)

307 268
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 11:41 AM (4knXT)
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The one non-naval book I just got is Feser's new Aristotle's Revenge. I've just started, so I haven't gotten to the evolution part (not even close). I know he's not really into ID, itself, but grants that some of the objections have some merit. (That seems Nagel's view, too. And Flew took that, at the end of his life.)

One problem I've long had with it is that, based on naturalist assumptions, natural selection is a tautology, and thus should be excluded from being scientific. I know Popper thought so, but thought it not a fatal problem IFF it were dropped as a scientifically verifiable hypothesis.Pinker's "refutation" that I read is comically inept.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 11:56 AM (VaN/j)

308 I was thinking about this the other day, what's that "c" w/the little tail called?
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 11:53 AM (ykq7q)
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It's a cedilla, ou cédille en français.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:56 AM (aXucN)

309 I loved the Victorian words link. You're a right proper brick, Eris.

*waves at the Horde*

Sorry bookies. I hate missing the book thread.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 11:57 AM (fuK7c)

310 >> the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.

Das ist Müll.

Posted by: Offended German at May 19, 2019 11:57 AM (o2vOl)

311 This week, I read People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck. This was a re-read for me. It is a truly fascinating perspective from a psychiatrist regarding evil people and family dysfunction. There is a chapter where he also discusses demons and exorcisms which is scary to read about, but I do believe it is real. I just don't like to dwell on it.

As I recall, this book is a follow-up, a sequel if you will, to his 'The Road Less Traveled', which was a massive best-seller in the 1980s. Peck wrote another book about his experience with exorcisms called, appropriately 'Glimpses of the Devil'.

Introverts in the Church by Adam McHugh. Discusses the idea that church services and church gatherings seem designed for extroverts and what the implications are for introverts. While there are complementary strengths that extroverts and introverts bring to the church, the church culture is primarily extroverted, and it can squelch, frustrate, and mortify introverts. Also, it is important to keep in mind that pastors and church staff will have different needs and strengths (as well as weaknesses) depending on their own introvertedness or extrovertedness.

Posted by: Violet at May 19, 2019 11:45 AM (pxpp+)


Very interesting. I'm an introvert and so is my daughter, and this is something we laugh about a lot. This one is going on my teetering, precarious TBR stack. Thanks!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 11:57 AM (b7IdW)

312 I buy less and less science fiction, which I used to devour voraciously.

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I can't recommend this enough. It's the best $5 I've spent in years.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316349410

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 11:59 AM (EOEiY)

313 In rugby, Ireland is the whole island. Rory Best from the north is the current captain. Wales, Scotland and England have their own teams.

But the North of Ireland has its own international soccer team, which has had outsized World Cup success.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 11:59 AM (1UZdv)

314 Mike H. I think that radar book is already on my list, will check.


About half-way through A Soldier's Duty, the memoir of Soviet Marshal Konstantin Rokossovsky. Supplementing it with UToob Russian documentaries on him.


Beginning to get a sense of why he is regarded as the most humane and approachable of the great WWII generals. Even in translation, a humility, informality, and concern for the troops come through.


Curious to see whether he includes a famous incident at a small Kremlin birthday dinner for Stalin, where the dictator took him aside and apologized for his imprisonment and abuse in 1937, during the purge of the military.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 11:59 AM (QDnY+)

315 My high school German teacher told us that the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.

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LOL wut? That cant B tru.

Posted by: Moron Robbie remembers when painting your face as a caricature of a minority was wrong at May 19, 2019 12:00 PM (EOEiY)

316 It's a cedilla, ou cédille en français.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:56 AM (aXucN)

Thanks bb....more info I can annoy family with.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 12:00 PM (ykq7q)

317 Greetings, josephistan #40

at May 19, 2019 09:29 AM (Izzlo)

"But as nice as getting some good books for cheap is, the best part of the day was taking a ride in a Vietnam War vintage UH-1 Huey helicopter! That was the best $80 I've spent. "

I don't suppose that they let you sit in the door with your legs our and your "assault weapon" appropriately cradled ??? It's truly amazing what you can see from tree-top level. And the sound of a Huey will always be music to me.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 19, 2019 12:00 PM (evgyj)

318 Am I the only person pissed off at the PGA for moving the PGA Championship from the last major tournament of the year to just some nondescript placeholder between the Masters and the Opens?

Yesterday CBS had a graphic:

April Masters
May PGA Championship
June US Open
July British Open
August FedEx Championship

One of those is not like the others.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 12:01 PM (y7DUB)

319 I listen to Quebec stations on Sirius. Once you figure out their pronunciation quirks it's not so bad. It's like an educated Brit trying to figure out a native Bronx speaker.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 12:01 PM (0zXml)

320 Hitchhikers's guide to the galaxy trope:

The Haggunenons of Vicissitus Three have the most impatient
chromosomes of any life form in the Galaxy. Whereas most races are
content to evolve slowly and carefully over thousands of generations,
discarding a prehensile toe here, nervously hazarding another nostril
there, the Haggunenons would do for Charles Darwin what a squadron of
Arcturan stunt apples would have done for Sir Isaac Newton. Their
genetic structure, based on the quadruple sterated octohelix, is so
chronically unstable that, far from passing their basic shape onto their
children, they will quite frequently evolve several times over lunch

Posted by: Kindltot at May 19, 2019 12:02 PM (KTmSx)

321 Thanks bb....more info I can annoy family with.
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 12:00 PM (ykq7q)
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You're quite welcome. And annoying family is my specialty - just ask mine.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 12:03 PM (aXucN)

322 Recall seeing all the big bright rising sun ensigns on kaijo jietai ships at Kure a few years ago when there, and touring one, and thinking about how it might be seen by some. Quite a beautiful ensign, though.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2019 12:03 PM (QDnY+)

323 Atin-lay is easy-ay.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 12:03 PM (oVJmc)

324 This is a reprise of a previous post for A.H. Lloyd.

Finished 4 books by Moron author A.H. Lloyd's Man of Destiny series:

A Man of Destiny (Volume 1)
Rise of the Alliance (Volume 2)
Fall of the Commonwealth (Volume 3)
The Imperial Rebellion (Volume 4)


This is the Star Wars prequels (Volumes 1-3) and The original 3 Star Wars movies (Volume 4) with just enough changes to avoid our loosely enforced copyright laws. Except better.

The plot of the first three novels is known. No surprises here. But a better explanation of actions and motivations is seen.

It is set in an Asimovian universe with only humans and robots. And a much more believable military and Jedi Knight group. There are Heinlein touches, like refreshers. The boot camp sequence in Volume 2 is humorous and true at the same time. Sad that the human species has not evolved more culturally for all of being set in the far future.

The books read fast, and there is not a great deal of world-building. Dialog and characterizations are better than the movies, but spare. It's all about the strategic action.

Volume 4 changes to new stories within a known plot, and is very satisfying. Even has happy endings.

Overall, a fun read.
Volume 1 sets the scene.
Volume 2 crackles with energy, as the fight can go either way.
Volume 3 is the rise of the Emperor. A bit downbeat.
Volume 4 wraps it all up in a pleasant departure from the movie plots.

Recommended for SF fans willing to accept something outside the Star Wars canon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

325 One of those is not like the others.


They've been saying that they've squished the schedule so as not to go into the Fall and compete with football.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 12:06 PM (fuK7c)

326 Don't knock the Cross of St George. Richard Coeur de Lion wore it when smiting the paynim. And contrary to what many believe, he won his only actual battle with Saladin. Granted, Saladin won the campaign, but after Arsof, he adopted Fabian tactics.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 19, 2019 12:07 PM (VaN/j)

327 It was funny hearing my Italian relatives speaking Bronxese. Layers of accents.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 12:08 PM (7Am4g)

328 Pants guy is everything wrong with our world in one picture. I've never seen such a punchable douche.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at May 19, 2019 12:09 PM (0OmEj)

329 If you find David McCullough's "The Pioneers" of interest, may I suggest a book by long-time friend "Sgt Mom?" "To Truckee's Trail," by Celia Hayes is very good. She tells the (fictionalized) story of the first folks to caravan cross the Sierra Nevada mountain range by what we now think of as the Donner Pass. (Remember the Donner Party? The name "Truckee" appears a lot in their Wikipedia entry.)

One of Sgt Mom's earlier works, but well done. Her love of history shines!
https://www.amazon.com/Truckees-Trail-Celia-Hayes-ebook/dp/B0010B8PHS

Posted by: Ranten N. Raven at May 19, 2019 12:09 PM (8YAVU)

330 302 My high school German teacher told us that the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019

*****

Seems about right.

A bier please.
Another bier please.
Two biers please.
Where is the bathroom.

Yeah. That about covers it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:09 PM (0tfLf)

331 Greetings:

Re: Midieval Maritime Warfare

Back when forecastles weren't for sleeping and eating.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 19, 2019 12:10 PM (evgyj)

332 A bier please.
Another bier please.
Two biers please.
Where is the bathroom.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:09 PM (0tfLf)
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Next to the biergarten.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 12:11 PM (aXucN)

333 332 A bier please.
Another bier please.
Two biers please.
Where is the bathroom.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2019 12:09 PM (0tfLf)
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Next to the biergarten.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 12:11 PM (aXucN)

That's where they grow the bier.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 12:12 PM (NWiLs)

334 302 My high school German teacher told us that the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019


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I hear that Germanic is such an embarrassment that Indo--European is considering kicking it out of the family.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2019 12:12 PM (4knXT)

335
Don't knock the Cross of St George
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St Andrew is blue with white cross (Scotland). I think Wales is a red dragon and Ireland is a harp.

Should be referred to Sheldon Cooper and his Fun With Flags vexillology podcasts.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 19, 2019 12:12 PM (MIKMs)

336 They've been saying that they've squished the schedule so as not to go into the Fall and compete with football.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 12:06 PM (fuK7c)


I suspected that but I still think they fucked up. Some sports boards don't even have a thread up for the PGA this year and with Tiger not making the cut and Koepka having a big lead, I expect the ratings to be in the toilet.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

337 137 Christianity has almost always been voluntary. There may be social
pressure to conform, but none of Islam's "conversion, tribute or the
sword" schtick.

However, Christianity has not been kind of heretics.

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This contrast is entirely new to me. Are you thinking Christian pressure to conform is directed inwards, forced conversions in history notwithstanding (because, I'm thinking, it's pretty rare), while Islam directs outward?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 12:14 PM (Z216Q)

338 I've never seen such a punchable douche.


Then you are clearly not a Eurovision aficionado. I give you Conchita Wurst:

http://bit.ly/2WfSGp7

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 12:14 PM (fuK7c)

339 The crestfallen young man decides to stay and help the missionary sisters anyway and is rewarded like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 10:02 AM

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A friendly warning to all you 'ettes: Do not write sentences like this. It's like standing in a pool of gasoline and lighting a match.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at May 19, 2019 10:29 AM


Wait until you see what happens when Sister Zoot lights up the Grail Sign.

Posted by: Sister Dingo at May 19, 2019 12:15 PM (DMUuz)

340 I expect the ratings to be in the toilet.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2019 12:13 PM (y7DUB)

Maybe not great, but with Koepka going for back to back titles, it shouldn't be terrible.

Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2019 12:16 PM (ykq7q)

341 I hear that Germanic is such an embarrassment that Indo--European is considering kicking it out of the family.


Unpossible. German is just English with a bit more discipline and order.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 12:16 PM (fuK7c)

342 Biden will want to run out the clock until he gets the nomination.

Will the other candidates attack him? Will Kamala play nice to get the VP pick?

Biden's supposed strength is electability, but he's doddering. Trump will club him like a baby seal.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2019 12:16 PM (1UZdv)

343 Shale oil
NOOD

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 12:16 PM (BbGew)

344 Texan was voted sexiest accent. Philly came in seventh. I don't know who was polled, because Philly accent is hideous.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2019 12:17 PM (7Am4g)

345 I am currently re-reading a book series that I'd previously read out of order. Its by Bruce Alexander and its about a a boy who becomes a lawyer under the tutelage of Sir John Fielding in Georgian England. John Fielding was the man who created what was in essence the world's first police force (The Bow Street Runners) and was the brother of the author of Tom Jones.

Its nice to read the series in order, although not necessary, because the author does a great job slowly developing the characters over eleven books, patiently creating a setting and having characters change, age, and move through the fascinating stories. Its a series done right, packed with historical information and great mystery stories.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:17 PM (39g3+)

346 302 My high school German teacher told us that the average German uses only 1500 words in his daily vocabulary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:50 AM (+y/Ru)
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Yes, but they're each 50 letters long and composed of at least three words smaller words.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 11:54 AM (aXucN)

and they just tack on adjectives to nouns. So they have words like uglyexhousewife.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 12:18 PM (JFO2v)

347 *reads the side-bar story*

So the YA Red Guards are having a Red Wedding.

Makes me wonder if I should even keep publishing anything.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2019 12:19 PM (NpoKk)

348 This contrast is entirely new to me. Are you thinking Christian pressure to conform is directed inwards, forced conversions in history notwithstanding (because, I'm thinking, it's pretty rare), while Islam directs outward?

The best contrast between Islam and Christianity I've read in a single sentence was this one by Sir Walter Scott in The Talisman:

"Both were courteous; but the courtesy of the Christian seemed to flow rather from a good-humored sense of what was due others; that of the Moslem from a high feeling of what was to be expected from himself"

Christianity is based around love, Islam around law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:21 PM (39g3+)

349 Just finished reading Raymond Ibrahim's The Sword and the Scimitar. It covers eight major battles between Muslims and Christians, ending with the Battle of Vienna.

But it's not just about those eight particular battles. The book also goes into great detail about the motives behind the concept of jihad, Muslim theology, and different incentives offered to Muslim warriors to participate in jihad. I was surprised to discover how the greed for booty and white, blonde haired females was at least half the reason a Muslim would participate in jihad. Religion was not as important as I had formerly thought.

This book is easy to read, but establishes its academic credentials with a very generous number of footnotes and a girthy bibliography.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 19, 2019 12:25 PM (ebZss)

350 While there are complementary strengths that extroverts and introverts bring to the church, the church culture is primarily extroverted, and it can squelch, frustrate, and mortify introverts.

I think that's overly broad. It depends on which church service and style there is. Yeah, a happy clappy "everyone greet each other" church service with hands held up and so on is built around an extroverted, exuberant personality. But there are more introverted church services as well (usually called "dead" or "boring" by extroverts) in which you quietly enter the sanctuary, sing and read and listen, and go home, perhaps talking to someone after church if you care to.

The more "traditional" and quiet sort of church service serves introverts very well. Nobody is going to corner you and shake your hand to ask you how you are, or try to pin you down for a dinner invite, etc. They let you live your reserved life and be yourself.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:26 PM (39g3+)

351 Still working on Texas Ranger
Sampled some of The Art of Eating by M.F.K. Fisher. Not sure if I will continue with it, but will save it for later.
Starting Working by Studs Terkel, which I picked up at McKay for 90 cents.
Sadly I find that print books tend to languish on my reading list. My habit is to read in bed for 30 minutes or so before falling asleep each night. Mr. McK is generally asleep at that point, so my iPad works much better for reading in the dark.

Posted by: MMcK at May 19, 2019 12:34 PM (xHxJf)

352 Starting Working by Studs Terkel, which I picked up at McKay for 90 cents.

I recommend that book for late night reading before bed or in the bathroom. Its short segments, little interviews with people in an incredible variety of jobs and its fascinating.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 19, 2019 12:36 PM (39g3+)

353 Back when forecastles weren't for sleeping and eating.

And the poopdeck, o chayzus.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 12:40 PM (8ZmvG)

354 CRT - thank you. I wonder how many jobs I will find are now obsolete, interesting of course but still obsolete. Last night I explained my mothers occupation of switchboard operator to the junior McKs. Not a receptionist, a real switchboard. They had some trouble wrapping their heads around it.

Posted by: MMcK at May 19, 2019 12:41 PM (xHxJf)

355 Recommended for SF fans willing to accept something outside the Star Wars canon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

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Glad you liked it! Thanks!

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 12:50 PM (cfSRQ)

356
This contrast is entirely new to me. Are you
thinking Christian pressure to conform is directed inwards, forced
conversions in history notwithstanding (because, I'm thinking, it's
pretty rare), while Islam directs outward?


Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 12:14 PM (Z216Q)

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Christianity is about the invitation to salvation. That invitation is for everyone, but one must choose to believe.

Heresy is a perversion of teachings by someone who has already joined the faith, so even extreme measures seem justified to preserve its holiness and sanctity.

Thus, if a non-believer insults the Holy Virgin, people of faith can shrug because they don't know the truth and speak out of ignorance.

But if someone baptized into the Church starts claiming she wasn't the Mother of God, that's now a direct assault by someone who should know better.

If Islam started as a Christian heresy it would explain three things.

1. The hatred of Jews (the old "Joos killed Jesus" line).
2. The hatred of Zoroastrianism, which was locked in a death match with the Eastern Roman Empire. It became a holy war with temples/churches profaned, etc.
3. The hatred of orthodox Christianity and the desire to see it crushed beneath the "true faith," which is what every heretic wants: their creed established as the new orthodoxy.

Again, still gathering info, but it does explain quite a bit.

As for forced conversion, it becomes kind of a habit after while and two centuries later, is formalized into the Islamic Imperial Creed.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 12:56 PM (cfSRQ)

357 175 SPOILER ALERT: I like the premise. Heydrich, who was promoted to the head of the SS after the assassination of Himmler, in an effort to insure that no untoward history might arise to spoil the US / Germany detente, is cleaning house of any Wannsee Conference participants who might spill the beans. The idea that these conspirators might fall out seems realistic and appeals to me.

pretty sure i once saw a film with a similar basis (although i believe it was preparations for hitler's 75th birthday rather than a detente opportunity that prompted the cleanup) with, iirc, rutger hauer playing the gestapo detective investigating the murders.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 19, 2019 01:08 PM (6PB3S)

358 Texan was voted sexiest accent. Philly came in seventh. I don't know who was polled, because Philly accent is hideous.
Posted by: kallisto

They asked shoppers at the Aca- me !

Posted by: JT at May 19, 2019 01:10 PM (DLK3N)

359 Texan was voted sexiest accent. Philly came in seventh. I don't know who was polled, because Philly accent is hideous.
Posted by: kallisto

They asked shoppers at the Aca- me !



They gave them a drink of wooter and made roof rhyme with woof.

Gah, I hate the Philly accent. I think only Jersey is worse.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2019 01:16 PM (fuK7c)

360 154 Every week I click on the awful pants picture, and then I wonder why did I click on that awful pants picture. Even sadder is the fact that there are so many awful pants pictures out there in the wild.
Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)

I just clicked on it because of your mention of it, here. It wasn't a recommendation, I know! Yeesh, why did I do that.

Posted by: m at May 19, 2019 03:02 PM (qxAnn)

361 How can any conservative still be Nevertrump?

Hold my sarsaparilla!

Posted by: Willard "Mitt" Romney, Severe Conservative at May 19, 2019 04:07 PM (tGSHk)

362 I gotta tip my hat to Herman Wouk.

I first heard of him in February 1983. ABC aired the miniseries "The Winds Of War", and I wouldn't read the novel for another 27 years. I was quite the young one at the time, and could not, of course, make sense of it all until much later. But that was just in time for ABC to air "War And Remembrance" (Nov 1988/May 1989). By that time I knew just enough about history to be dangerous, so I went all in. Again, I wouldn't read the novel for some time to come. Finally, about 10 years ago, on a recommendation, I read "The Caine Mutiny" and I was so impressed that I rank that as an important book to read on leadership. (In the case of Captain Queeg, how NOT to lead.)

Just yesterday here I was, driving to work, and I thought to myself, that Mr. Wouk is about to be 104. If he died, surely it wouldn't be a notice slipped over the transom. There would HAVE to be a bigger deal made of it, on the strength of those three novels alone. Alas, it was not to be. I probably wouldn't have found out about Mr. Wouk's passing had I not come here.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 04:09 PM (Xk5BK)

363 That library spells,in Chinese, "FOR A GOOD TIME TRY THE BODLEIAN".

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 04:21 PM (5IHGB)

364 Modern writing is often just plain *bad*. Articles in newspapers and magazines, even the conservative ones I'm afraid, are written very poorly. I don't know if it's because all the editors were let go when AutoCucumber came on the scene or if it's because the last 30+ years of education have been abysmal.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 19, 2019 10:39 AM (uquGJ)

Both. The editors have all been let go, and you can especially tell with headlines in newspapers and elsewhere. Lazy clickbait has won the day there.

The dumbing down of society has much to do with it. To wit: about 10 days ago it was unusually cool in my part of TX. On May 10 the high was in the 40s! The local weather girl kept calling it "the lowest high temperature for this day". I knew this in the 1980s and even in the 1990s as the "minimum high". It's a simple term I learned when I was 12. When such terms like "minimum high" and "maximum low" were pointed out to said weather girl, she replied something to the effect that "oh well, people won't understand that". To me, that says it all. "Minimum high" isn't Shakespeare, but people won't understand what that means???

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 04:32 PM (Xk5BK)

365 I've said it before, the left is trying to recreate the "cultural revolution" all over again....
Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 09:24 AM (UUBmN)

I agree completely. That's why I have been feeling compelled to buy as many pre-1980s books as I can afford. Of course, the Lefties have miscalculated because Americans have a deep and extensive history of firearms ownership; unlike Chinese peasants and Euroweenies.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 19, 2019 09:38 AM (5Yee7)

Heck you don't have to go back that far! On a recent car trip, I listened to At First Sight: A Novel of Obsession, by Stephen J. Cannell. It was released in 2008, so pre-Obama racial incitement. It's a little over 10 years old and my eyebrows still raised every couple minutes on hearing descriptions and terms that would get you labeled a H8A today!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 19, 2019 04:33 PM (tGSHk)

366 199 The funny thing is, if you read older books, you notice that people's vocabularies were much more varied than they are today. What we might consider ostentatious today was most likely everyday language back 100 years ago or so.

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One example, Sullivan Ballou's letter to his wife.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1VK1KcZoDu0
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2019 11:07 AM (+y/Ru

That was the logical outcome of reading as the main form of entertainment, in an era before TV or even radio.

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 04:39 PM (Xk5BK)

367 285 Larry Bond who co wrote a book with Tom Clancy

I did enjoy Red Phoenix which is about a North Korea attack on South Korea. It's interesting because one it's before the Gulf War and we really didn't know how good our Military was in the Late 80's and makes an interesting read.

I am surprised that their isn't more books about a fictional attack by North Korea or other type of fiction about the crazy NORKS.

Oh, do I remember Red Phoenix. I was 16. Here I was at Waldenbooks looking for something to read to pass the misery of high school. So I grabbed a copy of Red Phoenix. "Hmm...Larry Bond? Creator of Harpoon? The unofficial co-author of Red Storm Rising (to this day my favorite novel)? What can it be about? I flipped the paperback over and saw in big red letters "THE SECOND KOREAN WAR HAS BEGUN. AND THE THIRD WORLD WAR MAY NOT BE FAR BEHIND."

The phrase was not around then, but it may as well have been: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY! Great book.

But as good as that one was, Mr. Bond's finest moment was Vortex. That one, for the uninitiated, is about a South Africa that goes tits-up and falls prey to a regime that makes the National Party under Botha seem moderate. It becomes a police state and the RSA proceeds to invade Namibia. The Cubans jump in, and eventually even the RSA turns on itself. Of course there is American intervention (the appearance of the Iowa-class battleships is epic, among other things) but all in all it is a great book, full of the necessary intrigue, action, and brutal nastiness that I for one like in a book of this sort. (And by the way, it's hard to top Emily van der Heiden - a complete, total badass in this book - as far as strong, dare I say, "empowered" female characters go.)

Posted by: CatchThirtyThr33 at May 19, 2019 05:02 PM (Xk5BK)

368 I just started reading "Cauldron" By Larry Bond after someone recommended it here last week. I read "Vortex" last year and I also thought it was a great book.
Going to give "Red Phoenix" a try to

Posted by: Ken at May 19, 2019 05:28 PM (oTB5N)

EMT 5/19/19

Is Scotch Saturdays a thing?

It sure seemed like a thing.

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2 Good morning horde

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3 Why,,,

You dirty rat

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4 Good morning.

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5 Okay, that's enough excitement for this early and only half a cup down.

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8 Willowed:
From the NYT link in the comment I quoted in #737, I found this article about Venezuela:

https://tinyurl.com/y6f54uve

I did a word search for "socialism". "Phrase not found".

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:08 AM (sdi6R)

9 Good morning! Coffee is making and the birds are singing.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:09 AM (AwVzI)

10 I still have a minute to go for coffee, and not started breakfast.
Not much out there for news.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:09 AM (BbGew)

11 Morning 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at May 19, 2019 06:10 AM (Tdp9I)

12 Good morning, good night, whatever it takes

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 19, 2019 06:11 AM (NMAzL)

13 High 80's today and tomorrow here,

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:12 AM (BbGew)

14 Thanks JT!

This too, shall pass....hopefully.

Heading home in abt an hour. Normally abt a 4 hour drive, but with the rain and the shape I'm in, (and travelling with mom) it may take longer.

Posted by: My life is insanity at May 19, 2019 06:17 AM (vu/qe)

15
Good morning, Hordians.

Let's get out there and shame the lunatics by living a good life today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:23 AM (tGyaf)

16 Coffee ?
Breakfast ?

These thoughts are ... intriguing ...

*wanders off, muttering to self*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:24 AM (isI7q)

17
At the airport to fly up to Baltimore to meet Her Majesty and drive Val and the triumphant Delilah home.

I get on a flying machine once a year, if that. Reminded every time how much I hate the whole experience.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:26 AM (tGyaf)

18 I installed Linux Mint on my Mac the other day and have been using the Firefox browser that came with it. I noticed some formatting problems when commenting here. If I quote a comment, it gains additional spaces between paragraphs, and my own comment doesn't have spaces between paragraphs unless I hit return two or three times.

I found that if I compose my comment in a plain text editor and then paste it in the comment window, it is formatted correctly. Something about the comment window doesn't play nice with Pixy. I also notice that it has the non-functional formatting buttons, which didn't appear at all in the Epic browser on the Mac OS.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:27 AM (sdi6R)

19 Traveling across time zones is a pain in the rear.

Well, time to hit the road again.

Greetings from beautiful OKC.

At least, I think it's beautiful and OKC.

Posted by: blaek - used road trip salesman at May 19, 2019 06:29 AM (GU7eD)

20 gonna be cool and rainy here for the next couple of days. Apparently the fallout from El Nino.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:30 AM (AwVzI)

21 Haven't been on a plane since before 9/11, no desire to go through that dog and pony show

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:31 AM (BbGew)

22 So what I'm saying is that I think it's more a Firefox than a Linux issue. Is anyone else using Firefox on a different platform?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:34 AM (sdi6R)

23 Good Morning.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 06:40 AM (JFO2v)

24
Well, on to boarding. Get to stand waiting while some land whale tries to stuff a grand piano into the overhead.
Plus, it looks like everyone in the world wants to fly to BWI this morning.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:40 AM (tGyaf)

25 Morning Mouth Breathers

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 19, 2019 06:42 AM (GwY6O)

26 I used to love flying when I was a kid. It became tiresome when I did it for work, but mostly because it was so frequent. After 9/11, it is just plain loathsome no thanks in part to the TSA.

Those fucksticks pulled my wife out of line because she had trail mix in her bag. She said the lady who gave her the 'pat down' was all up in her stuff, to the point that my wife asked her if she was gonna buy her dinner. I hate the TSA with the heat of a thousand suns.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:43 AM (AwVzI)

27
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:43 AM (AwVzI)

I have a couple of boxes of keto bars they pulled out and inspected.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:47 AM (tGyaf)

28 Paint by the numbers artiste G Bush saddled the peons with TSA.

Posted by: john doe at May 19, 2019 06:49 AM (WX+x0)

29 I love to fly as well, never had a bad experience internally or externally, love the scenery going by. Been from Europe to Hawaii and California and very small planes locally when I was a kid.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (BbGew)

30 I have a couple of boxes of keto bars they pulled out and inspected.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

When my wife was coming home from PA, they had to inspect the hell out of the Amish whoopie pies she had in her carry on.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (8ikIW)

31 It rained all day yesterday. Except it does not rain here in May. So it's kind of a crisis.

Dobroe ytro, horde.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (EZebt)

32 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 06:47 AM (tGyaf)

Zombie terrorist Euell Gibbons nods approvingly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 06:50 AM (AwVzI)

33 But if you don't let the TSA molest you, the terrorists will win. It is our duty as Americans to submit to intrusive searches. Are you unpatriotic or something?

/s

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:53 AM (sdi6R)

34 But if you don't let the TSA molest you, the terrorists will win. It is our duty as Americans to submit to intrusive searches. Are you unpatriotic or something?

/s
Posted by: rickl

The last time thru the full body scanner and teleporter machine, I got pulled off because it was detecting something on my left leg and on my chest.

Get patted down there and finds nothing other then the buttons for my shirt and leg inside blue jeans. What the hell is that think looking for?
If the machine is supposed to find metallic objects, it sucks.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 06:57 AM (8ikIW)

35 Get patted down there and finds nothing other then
the buttons for my shirt and leg inside blue jeans. What the hell is
that think looking for?

If the machine is supposed to find metallic objects, it sucks.


Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 06:57 AM

---

The screws in my shoulder set off the thing and I get an extra pat down.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 06:59 AM (JUOKG)

36 rickl -

Linux Mint (18.3 Cinnamon 64 bit) & Firefox on a former Win7 laptop (Intel I5).

I don't get any of the weird effects you are seeing, but I think NoScript is part of that.
With scripts enabled I get the nonfunctioning toolbar.
I have never had the add-a-space-between-lines thing, though I see it happening to others here.
Manual paragraph spacing here, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:59 AM (isI7q)

37 I have to admit that other than flying business class, the best commercial flight I had was a trip from DFW to Cancun aboard Aero Mexico...AND it was post 9/11.

The flight was an older plane (a 727 with an analog cockpit) but it was clean and the in flight service was superlative. We had fresh sammiches, fresh coffee and flan for the inflight meal, served on real china with linen napkins and real silverware.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 07:00 AM (AwVzI)

38 TSA is makework theater for wannabe cops. They should all be at the Southern border manning machine gun nests.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:01 AM (UdKB7)

39
Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (zBaqJ)

40 But if you don't let the TSA molest you, the terrorists will win. It is our duty as Americans to submit to intrusive searches. Are you unpatriotic or something?

If you don't let us touch your penis, you are definitely a terrorist.

Posted by: TSA agents everywhere at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (AwVzI)

41 The screws in my shoulder set off the thing and I get an extra pat down.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

Strange. I've got 6 screws in my ankle and it never shows that.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:05 AM (8ikIW)

42 38
TSA is makework theater for wannabe cops. They should all be at the Southern border manning machine gun nests.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:01 AM (UdKB7)


THIS.
Although we can only hope they're pointed in the right direction.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:06 AM (sdi6R)

43
The goon in the seat in front will, no doubt, slam the recline all the way back the second the wheels break the ground.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 19, 2019 07:07 AM (hVO90)

44 Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I glanced at the article. It seems he is of the obstruction camp because Trump! tried to get Mueller fired.
Was it written in the report "Today, Trump! tried to fire me"?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:08 AM (8ikIW)

45 36
rickl -



Linux Mint (18.3 Cinnamon 64 bit) Firefox on a former Win7 laptop (Intel I5).



I don't get any of the weird effects you are seeing, but I think NoScript is part of that.

With scripts enabled I get the nonfunctioning toolbar.

I have never had the add-a-space-between-lines thing, though I see it happening to others here.

Manual paragraph spacing here, too.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 06:59 AM (isI7q)


Thanks! I'll give that a try.

I have Linux Mint 19.1 on a MacPro desktop that's about 8-10 years old. I just installed it on Tuesday.
I just added Ghostery to block ads and trackers.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:09 AM (sdi6R)

46 Justin Amash is a humorless prick.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2019 07:09 AM (Xqo6t)

47 I quit drinking for 2019 and I must say, that after 40 or so years of pushing it, I find a definite re-alignment of my brain chemistry. I know it's not for everyone, but I'm astonished at the difference I find in my more measured and calm manner of reacting to the same old bullshit of life.

Posted by: Ass Chum at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM (Jj+59)

48 And you can see what I was talking about. I just typed the previous comment directly into the comment window.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM (sdi6R)

49 The goon in the seat in front will, no doubt, slam the recline all the way back the second the wheels break the ground.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I'm 6'9". The only way I can fly without any pain is in first class.
I'm thinking of joining some Americans With Disabilities lawsuit against the airlines.
They could claim they are a private enterprise etc etc. Then fine, let the airlines pay for and be in charge of the TSA.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM (8ikIW)

50 sunday morning

stillness.

eating home fries

listening to jack bruce, "consul at sunset"

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 19, 2019 07:11 AM (Pg+x7)

51
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe details) at May 19, 2019 07:12 AM (KCxzN)

52 Jerry Hyman's birthday today..

https://tinyurl.com/yyrnykmb

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 07:13 AM (PUmDY)

53 The screws in my shoulder set off the thing and I get an extra pat down.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman



Strange. I've got 6 screws in my ankle and it never shows that.


Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:05 AM

---

Maybe it's the numbers. I have 29 screws in my shoulder.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (JUOKG)

54 I received the bonus TSA scrutiny almost every time I flew from '08 to '13. All my flights were "one way" is the excuse I got from on fellow. Meanwhile, an Uncle Sam tattoo got me past Homeland Security while commuting from St Thomas to St John. The Hatians under the dock didn't fair so well.

Posted by: Horus Hearsay at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (DB16e)

55 Maybe it's the numbers. I have 29 screws in my shoulder.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman

That could be it.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (8ikIW)

56 The last time I flew back from California I was so miserable I said I would never fly again. Now Mrs f'd says she want to go to Hawaii. How can I convince her that she doesn't want to go to Hawaii? I have to make it seem like she decided she doesn't want to go.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:15 AM (UdKB7)

57
I know it's not for everyone, but I'm astonished at the difference I find in my more measured and calm manner of reacting to the same old bullshit of life.

Posted by: Ass Chum at May 19, 2019 07:10 AM


Amen. And it keeps getting better

Posted by: AltonJackson (click for the 08JUN19 MiMoMe details) at May 19, 2019 07:17 AM (KCxzN)

58 Now Mrs f'd says she want to go to Hawaii. How can I convince her that she doesn't want to go to Hawaii? I have to make it seem like she decided she doesn't want to go.
Posted by: freaked

Has she been there before?

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:17 AM (8ikIW)

59
"Although we can only hope they're pointed in the right direction."

Yeah, at each other.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:17 AM (A3w0Q)

60 rickl - I run Ghostery too, also Privacy Badger and Flagfox.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:18 AM (isI7q)

61 I have a walking stick with an EGA on it. TSA has to scan it. Every. Cfukin. Time.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 07:19 AM (AwVzI)

62 I don't mind flying except trying to get my carry-on in the overhead bin. I'm 5'2" and seems no one ever wants to help me.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:20 AM (lwiT4)

63 Justin didn't sit through Sloppy Choppers speech
No new impeachment

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:20 AM (BbGew)

64 60 rickl - I run Ghostery too, also Privacy Badger and Flagfox.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:18 AM (isI7q)


Testing. I just added NoScript and the formatting buttons have disappeared.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:20 AM (sdi6R)

65 Seems to work!

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:21 AM (sdi6R)

66 I don't mind flying except trying to get my carry-on in the overhead bin. I'm 5'2" and seems no one ever wants to help me.
Posted by: grammie winger

I always help the "fun size" ladies

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:22 AM (8ikIW)

67 "Has she been there before?"

Yes, we went to Kaui. Went with family and stayed at a rented house. She enjoyed it, me not so much. I did read all of "Atlas Shrugged" while there.

I also lived on Oahu for three years when I was a kid, dad was stationed at Hickham. That was a long time ago.

What I need is a good volcano or outbreak of leprosy or something to change her mind.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:23 AM (UdKB7)

68 I should always fly with you, Bruce. It would make things so much more pleasant.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:24 AM (lwiT4)

69 And Justin thinks AG Barr is misrepresenting Mueller's report, well then it's all out there, underline the sentences and hold a press conference.
But then he probably hasn't read it yet.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:24 AM (BbGew)

70 And Justin thinks AG Barr is misrepresenting Mueller's report, well then it's all out there, underline the sentences and hold a press conference.
But then he probably hasn't read it yet.
Posted by: Skip

He says he's read it. Unlike the rest of his ne'r do well colleagues.
If they only read it, Trump! would be impeached tomorrow.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:26 AM (8ikIW)

71 Justin Amash has a few things taking away from his credibility.

He's co owner of Dynamic Source International, which is a Chinese company that supplies Michigan Industrial Tools and located in Hangzhou.

Seems to me he has a big bug in his ass about tariffs being supported by Trump....

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:28 AM (IfYaq)

72 Now if only I could get my e-mail set up. It keeps saying the password is wrong. I've tried every one I can think of.

It's been so long since I set up my e-mail accounts on the Mac that I don't remember whether they were passwords I made up myself or whether they were assigned by Comcast. Do I have to call Comcast for help?

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 07:28 AM (sdi6R)

73 Bibi vows to put a Bible on the moon in Israel's next lunar attempt. Sure beats a rainbow flag.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:29 AM (lwiT4)

74 "But then he probably hasn't read it yet.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:24 AM (BbGew) "


Spot-on !
Between this and not reading bills before voting and so forth, I wonder if we haven't kindly provided (very!) gainful employment for four-hundred-and-odd functional illiterates.
Innumerate, too, just look at how they handle money !

*spits*
*repeatedly*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (isI7q)

75 I like going thru the TSA pat downs and such. I usually go thru two or three times before the Head Agent puts a stop to the fun.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (Z+IKu)

76 *spits*
*repeatedly*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez

Don't forget to hydrate

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (8ikIW)

77 Better take the Rev with ya grammie.
Bruce just said he's 6' 9".
If you sit with him you'll be needing neck rubs due to severe pain in your neck from looking up to talk to him.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:31 AM (A3w0Q)

78 And then fucking Drudge with the BIDEN RUNS TO THE MIDDLE headline. What a stooge. Seems like pre-Trump that headline would have been something a lot more skeptical. Not even skeptical, outright mocking, because I don't think anyone who has followed politics for any length of time credulously believes Joe Biden wants to govern from the middle. He wants the middle to elect him, shut up, pay taxes, and do what it's told.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 19, 2019 07:31 AM (6BOGe)

79 More on Amash:

Justin Amash's brother Jeff Amash is the President at Tekton Inc. and Michigan Industrial Tools.
Tekton & MIT claim their tools are made here, but in reality, they are made in China.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (IfYaq)

80 Was glancing through Justin's Twitter, in April he says he was going to read through Mueller's report carefully and see the nuances in between the sentences and comment then.
Was hoping for some good troll comments because he is a idiot.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (BbGew)

81 Better take the Rev with ya grammie.
Bruce just said he's 6' 9".
If you sit with him you'll be needing neck rubs due to severe pain in your neck from looking up to talk to him.
Posted by: teej

Neck rubs are all art of the service on Air Bruce

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (8ikIW)

82 Better take the Rev with ya grammie.

Bruce just said he's 6' 9".

If you sit with him you'll be needing neck rubs due to severe pain in your neck from looking up to talk to him.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:31 AM (A3w0Q)



6'9"? Why, he should go into the overhead bin-stuffing business!

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (lwiT4)

83 Time to get ready for church - see ya later, hordelings

Posted by: grammie winger at May 19, 2019 07:34 AM (lwiT4)

84 I really feel sorry for those American citizens in Laredo and El Paso. Apparently they don't have the pull folks in Broward County and Palm Beach do.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:34 AM (UdKB7)

85 Pretty cool story and song...

https://tinyurl.com/y57zcxuy


https://tinyurl.com/y57zcxuy


Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 07:35 AM (PUmDY)

86 "he was going to read through Mueller's report carefully and see the nuances in between the sentences and comment then. "

SENTENCE 33 No evidence of collusion was found.

SENTENCE 34 Neither the Trump campaign nor the subsequent Administration have committed any acts of collusion.

Amash: "So you can see the nuance there, between those two sentences, where Mueller is clearly making a 'whacking off' motion as he rights, meaning he's being sarcastic."

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 19, 2019 07:35 AM (6BOGe)

87 "rights"

aw dude no

too early

should be writes, sorry

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (6BOGe)

88 Sheeesh, rickl, that one I can't help you with.

It sounds like the phone call is the only option, they should be able to do a reset, at least.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (isI7q)

89 >>Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment? This fucking turd disgusts me.




AMash is protecting his family's Chinese business:


https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/

1129879754570493952

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (W+vEI)

90 townhall.com/the alleged serial killer you may not have heard of yet and the medias astonishing bias
http://tinyurl.com/yxhftc6q
Heard this on radio Friday, illegal from Africa

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (BbGew)

91 6'9"? Why, he should go into the overhead bin-stuffing business!
Posted by: grammie winger

I have to duck to walk into the plane. The walk in the middle of the aisle, else an overhead bin door crack my skull.
Best part of first class is they will usually rustle me up a beer why the rest are boarding. Of course it's only a half of a beer. Evidently they feel I can't consume an entire 12 oz can in 15 minutes.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (8ikIW)

92 And then there's the company his father started in 1956, Amash Imports, which is when his family left Palestine for America. Amash Imports also operates under the name....Michigan Industrial Tools.

There's also a Charles Amash Imports Inc.

Also interesting - some time ago Amash was visited by the Consul General of China, Hong Lei, who was born in Zhejiang. Hm, that's where DSI is located....

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:37 AM (IfYaq)

93 And of course, my first laugh of the day goes to,, the envelope please,, ** rip ** grammie winger!!

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 07:37 AM (A3w0Q)

94 "Don't forget to hydrate

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:30 AM (8ikIW) "


Good point, thanks !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:38 AM (isI7q)

95 For lots more, check out @BenKTallmadge.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:39 AM (IfYaq)

96 I'm sure the 12 votes Amash might get will change the course of the Nation.

Posted by: jsg at May 19, 2019 07:40 AM (WM2oO)

97 Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:08 AM (sdi6R)
---
Interesting that, in that article, not once is Socialism named and shamed, just "poor policies".

I was heartened to see lots of pushback against against "It's Trump's fault".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 07:40 AM (kQs4Y)

98 'his family left Palestine for America. '

I think I see the problem here. And this guy claims to be a Republican? Oh yeah, Republicans are barely distinguishable from a pile of dog crap.

Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2019 07:40 AM (UdKB7)

99 >>> Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment? This fucking turd disgusts me.
>>>AMash is protecting his family's Chinese business:

https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/
1129879754570493952
~~~~~

He was also the only Republican in the House to vote against Kate's Law.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 19, 2019 07:41 AM (NtglE)

100 Yeah, Skip, that's quite the story.

Best part ?
Suspect in another 750 deaths.

Guy should be a hero to the "kill all the white people" crowd.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:42 AM (isI7q)

101 how many "screws" does it take to get thru LAX ,PAT?

well they are lookin' fer buttons and bows
and well boobed boobs
guys can pick the 12" or less line
shorties to the left of me
king kong to the right.

Posted by: saf at May 19, 2019 07:42 AM (5IHGB)

102 See if Sloppy Choppers takes Justin aside soon, she is trying to tamp down this impeachment talk.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 07:42 AM (BbGew)

103 Got garage rat. Yuck. Put new door bottom seal in too.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:44 AM (t1c4w)

104 >>Suspect in another 750 deaths.

Seriously?
This is the illegal alien from Kenya who's killing seniors, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 07:44 AM (W+vEI)

105 RE: Amish and his Made in China business...


Just got an idea... what if congress passed a "buy American" provision that required very large online retailers, *cough* Amazon *cough*, to keep database records of all products they sell by whether they were made in the USA.. and whenever they display an item for sale that is not, they be required to offer suggestions for any alternatives that are Made in the USA? Workable idea?

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (Xqo6t)

106 I wonder if that idiot, Cenk Uyger, knows he named his show "The Young Turks" after a group that led years of Christian genocide in Turkey? This article may be behind a paywall, but it summarizes a new book from Harvard detailing the thirty year campaign of rape, murder and deportation that reduced millions of Christians to practically none in formerly Greek areas of Turkey. Slave markets were common. Ah, but that's like a hundred years ago dude. Probably can't happen today.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4hh2ens

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (Z216Q)

107 Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (zBaqJ)


Go for it.

What better way to ensure another term?

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (ZfRYq)

108 Jack Posobiec: Justin Amash is the Jeff Flake of Louise Menches

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (IfYaq)

109 Go for it.

What better way to ensure another term?

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (ZfRYq)


What better way to get a unaccountable campaign contributions, aCNN gig, a lobbying job and A-List cocktail party invites?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 07:47 AM (3hr5B)

110 Okay, off to start the day.
Hope it's a good one for all.

Posted by: Bruce at May 19, 2019 07:48 AM (8ikIW)

111 Justin Amash was all but expelled from the House GOP caucus years ago, as I recall. Boehner kicked the turd off his committee assignments. What I don't get is he represents Grand Rapids, and I always thought that area was conservative. Instead it seems to be very Rand Paul-ish, and Rand's brother is one of Amash's key supporters.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 07:48 AM (Z216Q)

112 What gender is a computer ?

https://tinyurl.com/y3tctf2f

Posted by: jsg at May 19, 2019 07:48 AM (WM2oO)

113 Biden seems to be wasting no time going into the gutter. PDT will chew him up and spit him out.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 07:50 AM (PUmDY)

114 'What gender is a computer ? '

Binary

Posted by: Hal at May 19, 2019 07:50 AM (UdKB7)

115 >>I wonder if that idiot, Cenk Uyger, knows he named his show "The Young Turks" after a group that led years of Christian genocide in Turkey?




Of course he does.
He also denies there was a Christian genocide in Armenia - says it's a "myth."

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (W+vEI)

116 Does Mueller report ever explain that there is no crime called "collusion"?

I'm no legal expert but how can something that's not a crime be investigated as if it were a crime?

We're still not at peak stupid are we.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (t1c4w)

117 Remember when Walmart had the buy American thing. Was it Walmart or Sears? Its been sometime since I heard that.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (+0N+f)

118 Scotch Saturdays IS a thingy
So is Tequila Tuesday...and Whiskey Wednesday

Posted by: Dave A at May 19, 2019 07:53 AM (r21BT)

119 #115 lots of groups carry on in the name of others that committed mass murder.

Really odd that anyone can be attracted to slaughter.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:54 AM (t1c4w)

120 Just got an idea... what if congress passed a "buy American" provision that required very large online retailers, *cough* Amazon *cough*, to keep database records of all products they sell by whether they were made in the USA.. and whenever they display an item for sale that is not, they be required to offer suggestions for any alternatives that are Made in the USA? Workable idea?

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2019 07:45 AM (Xqo6t)


J Bozos: "My good man it would be totally impossible to write software that could sort across millions of items like that and post specifics related to any current order!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 07:54 AM (3hr5B)

121 Attacks against 14-year-old Soph are ratcheting up. The mob is out for her.

https://tinyurl.com/yxwfsh85

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 07:56 AM (H8QX8)

122 Does Mueller report ever explain that there is no crime called "collusion"?

I'm no legal expert but how can something that's not a crime be investigated as if it were a crime?

We're still not at peak stupid are we.

Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (t1c4w)


Comrade, you are correct, BUT we are ahead of your. We invented the concept of administrative crime, out of whole cloth, and called it "Process Crime"!

Posted by: Zombie L Beria at May 19, 2019 07:57 AM (3hr5B)

123 Rain, again? Fortunately the doggehs got several hiking miles in yesterday, because (unless this rain stops), like the Byrds, we ain't going nowhere today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 07:57 AM (Z216Q)

124 Amash is getting his inner tlaib on.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:58 AM (ShAcG)

125 Does Mueller report ever explain that there is no crime called "collusion"?

I'm no legal expert but how can something that's not a crime be investigated as if it were a crime?

We're still not at peak stupid are we.
Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2019 07:51 AM (t1c4w)


No, one of the Left's new tropes is "yeah, well collusion isn't a crime, Trump made up that word to trick you, so he can't really be "exonerated" of it because it isn't a crime."

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 07:59 AM (ZfRYq)

126 Not creating another expensive ,intrusive bureaucracy staffed mostly by mindless drones (Dems) dedicated to annoying and harassing normal Americans would be letting the terrorists win.


I'd happily go back to airport security the way it was pre-9/11 and take my 1 in 10,000,000 chance the plane get hijacked. Maybe same soldiers strolling around the airport with machine guns looking for suspicious characters (i.e not grandma) but that is all.

Posted by: Ripley at May 19, 2019 08:00 AM (NbRJx)

127 Going over to the local McD's as it is reopening after a rebuilt. It has a robot controlled fryer, one of the first at McD's. Along with the touch screens, and more automation to come. I wonder what Gov Cuomo thinks, time for another ban?

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (+0N+f)

128 Walmart had a buy American campaign?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (PUmDY)

129 Posted by: Zombie L Beria at May 19, 2019 07:57 AM (3hr5B)

Do away with administrative law; do away wioth administrative crime. Do away with administrative agencies and force congress to do their jobs.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (AwVzI)

130 Justin Amash's brother Jeff Amash is the President at Tekton Inc. and Michigan Industrial Tools.
Tekton & MIT claim their tools are made here, but in reality, they are made in China.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 07:32 AM (IfYaq)


Amazon sells a metric crapton of Tekton junk.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (3hr5B)

131 >>>Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment? This fucking turd disgusts me.


Wasn't he shit out of a palestinian Hole?

Or, is it just his father who is an inbred muslim scumbag?

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:03 AM (qWZVz)

132 Do away with administrative law; do away wioth administrative crime. Do away with administrative agencies and force congress to do their jobs.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 08:01 AM (AwVzI)


What, ask those lazy worthless bastards in Congress to do something for their money besides campaign for the next election?
Pshaw, sir, pshaw I say!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:03 AM (3hr5B)

133
Possibility that the reason Pelousy is tamping down the impeachment talk is that she is now actually controlled by the white hats?

That she has been shown they have "the goods" on her?

That that is the reason PDJT was talking her up for speaker?

No, I haven't seen that alluded to anywhere.
Just think it's a possibility.

Now keep in mind, it wasn't all that long ago that what is now referred to as the deep state was considered "crazy talk."

Consider...

Someone posts a picture in January of a watch, a very expensive watch that appears to be laying on a leather folder next to a presidential pen.
That watch is set to 3:15, I think it was.

A month or so later another watch set to I think 4:59.

I can go look up both to get em exact if needed.

Time passes and then, on Mar 15, at 4:59 AG Barr declares state of emergency.

And you have seen a good many of different things like that done over the past year or so.

Think it might make you at least consider the possibility that there is something to all this?

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:03 AM (A3w0Q)

134
Walmart had a buy American campaign?

Sure! The first time, anyway.

That's where Walmart gets its best ideas, and after that they supposedly just send the product to Chinese suppliers who make knock-offs. And (according to the stories) Walmart only buys the knockoffs from that point forward.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:04 AM (Z216Q)

135 88 Sheeesh, rickl, that one I can't help you with.

It sounds like the phone call is the only option, they should be able to do a reset, at least.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they are gaslighting us 24/365 at May 19, 2019 07:36 AM (isI7q)


Thanks for your help! You fixed my formatting problem.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:04 AM (sdi6R)

136 Since I fly out of a rather small airport and I have pre-check, its somewhat easier. They still yell at you if you do something wrong, like step over the line on the floor before being called. Still much better than ORD, what a zoo.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:05 AM (+0N+f)

137 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:05 AM (u82oZ)

138 "Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?..."

This just makes me laugh now. Go ahead -- do it. I'd love it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:05 AM (H8QX8)

139 Amash is getting his inner tlaib on.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 19, 2019 07:58 AM (ShAcG)

I thought the proper spelling was tlailiban?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (3hr5B)

140 Morning all...

The NYT is all butthurt...what's new huh?

@nytimesworld

Australians shrugged off the warming seas killing the Great Barrier Reef and the extreme drought punishing farmers. Why? https://nyti.ms/2VK064u by @damiencave

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (cF8AT)

141 22
So what I'm saying is that I think it's more a Firefox than a Linux issue. Is anyone else using Firefox on a different platform?


Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 06:34 AM (sdi6R)
I Firefox on Win10 - developer edition. It does wierd things too when copy/paste and I'm sure you've seen sometimes when I post the spacing is messed up.
Been experimenting with other browsers: Tor (variant of Firefox), Pale Moon, Waterfox (a good one), Brave and a few others.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (D3cJf)

142 teej

How has the rain affected the local lakes? We're getting close to spillway release here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

143 Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (cF8AT)

Another example of why this whole concept of letting the peasants vote is a huge mistake!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:09 AM (3hr5B)

144 We only consider flying if it will take more than a half day to drive. Between the expenses, the time (amazingly similar usually), and going through the security theater with a grumbling pre-teen, a can't-stand-still special needs son with more than a few unusual tendencies, and silly volume limits on toiletries, we've realized we'd rather drive and let the kids get a $10 toy or book at the halfway point as a reward for being good.

Not to mention stopping at zoos and lakes to skip stones and picnic.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:10 AM (lPsvG)

145 This is an unsolicited endorsement of Sonos. I love the product. Hope it American.

Whenever I get ti in my head to listen to something, I find it, and get to listen. It doesn't matter what room I'm in, I have an inexpensive speaker connected to the system. If you like music and have a Spotify account (or similar), you can listen to literally anything just by picking up your phone and using the app.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:10 AM (Z216Q)

146 We only consider flying if it will take more than a half day to drive.


Time constraints are the only consideration for me for flying. I will pick driving every time. I hate being on someone else's schedule.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (uTY3H)

147 How has the rain affected the local lakes? We're getting close to spillway release here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:08 AM (u82oZ)

Living on the south shore of Lake Ontario, its "we are all going to die from GW time". It does have a lot to do with how much water is released into the St. Lawrence. Its a balancing act, and I do feel sorry for the people who live right on the lake shore. Sort of like building on a barrier reef along the Atlantic.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (+0N+f)

148 We only consider flying if it will take more than a half day to drive.

My rule too. I hate airports and flying is crazy expensive. Plus, in your car you're able to decide what to eat, and when, and where to stop, and can arrive exactly when you want to.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (Z216Q)

149 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:14 AM (cqNba)

150 Time constraints are the only consideration for me
for flying. I will pick driving every time. I hate being on someone
else's schedule.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 08:13 AM (uTY3H)


Time for California's HS rail......./sarc

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:15 AM (+0N+f)

151 Too dad gummed high for me to get any crappie fishing in NaCly.

If they open the emergency spillway there I wonder if the geologists will once again be amazed at how much erosion takes place from that little bit of water.

At least a little bit compared to, say, the receding waters of a cataclysmic, world wide flood.

Hope you and the Mrs are well.
He her I said hi if you would.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:16 AM (A3w0Q)

152 nytimesworld

Australians shrugged off the warming seas killing the Great Barrier Reef and the extreme drought punishing farmers. Why? https://nyti.ms/2VK064u by @damiencave

So much condescension in so few words. Bravo!

Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2019 08:17 AM (XROPS)

153 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top of the mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Hope your son aced his AW quals. This will help him be a rate grabber.

IIANM, you can wear more than one earned Warfare Qual these days. Next - ESWS? Lots of damage control in that qual.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:17 AM (u82oZ)

154 I asked this before on another thread and got the answer that I should throw out Apple products. Failing that, does anyone know a remedy or cause for periodic inability to post here with the message "internal 500 error?" Or something like that.

Posted by: AnnaS at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (hTPJO)

155 Time constraints are the only consideration for me for flying

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That's kind how I personally am. I'm fortunate that my family LURVS them some staying in a hotel, so even a two day trip usually isn't a big deal. I don't know what it is about it but the kids view it as a big adventure.

I've also discovered that if I splurge a bit on the hotel that the wife stays much happier, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (lPsvG)

156 Tell her

Geez, juuuust a bit outside.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:19 AM (A3w0Q)

157 teej

Thank you. I sure will.

Big COE meeting this Wednesday. We do have some potentially threatened areas below the dam.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:19 AM (u82oZ)

158 Nice rain this morning. We needed it, as it hadn't rained in almost 36 hours in upstate New York.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 08:19 AM (ta49A)

159 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (D3cJf)

Finally got back to Pale Moon on Win 7 Pro, which seems to do what I want for the most part. I really liked a previous version of Brave, but the current version is hosed and not worth fixing.
Never heard of Waterfox, but I'll go look at it.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (3hr5B)

160 "House Democrats will hear from former CIA director John Brennan about the situation in Iran when he speaks next week at a private meeting amid heightened concerns over the Trump administration's sudden moves in the region. . ."


Obama admin people can't stay out of US-Iran relations. Wasn't Brennan's security clearance pulled?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (W+vEI)

161 Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines

So the No-Tell Motel and Motel 6 are right out?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (u82oZ)

162 re: what if congress passed a "buy American" provision
-------------

I say no, and will quote another commenter about a different subject:

Not creating another expensive ,intrusive bureaucracy staffed mostly by mindless drones (Dems) dedicated to annoying and harassing normal Americans would be letting the terrorists win.

Posted by: dDan at May 19, 2019 08:20 AM (hwYmz)

163 I didn't watch Biden's re re launch speech yesterday, but I read somewhere he is very slow and babbles. If that's true, it's shameful to run for POTUS in that condition.

Posted by: jmel at May 19, 2019 08:21 AM (OeWgo)

164 >>Posted by: AnnaS at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (hTPJO)


Smart Punctuation is your problem.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:21 AM (qWZVz)

165 141
Firefox on Win10 - developer edition. It does wierd things too when copy/paste and I'm sure you've seen sometimes when I post the spacing is messed up.
Been experimenting with other browsers: Tor (variant of Firefox), Pale Moon, Waterfox (a good one), Brave and a few others.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2019 08:06 AM (D3cJf)


I loaded NoScript as sock_rat_eez suggested and that fixed it right up.

I am planning to try other browsers eventually.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:22 AM (sdi6R)

166 >>Nice rain this morning. We needed it, as it hadn't rained in almost 36 hours in upstate New York.


I miss pizza from the Tinos.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:22 AM (qWZVz)

167 "IIANM, you can wear more than one earned Warfare Qual these days."

Sure can.

But truth be told, I could see an aviation rate possibly grabbing SW as well, like for instance during a long Carrier deployment.

But I have met many a knucklehead who has tried to collect every damn qualification out there. Perhaps to enhance their promotability.

And there seems to be an almost inverse relationship between the number of Quals they wear to their ability to master their primary rate.

They tend to have the largest list of collateral duties as well.

Usually involving diversity.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:23 AM (cqNba)

168 I just realized the Stray Cats reunited.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:23 AM (PUmDY)

169 >>I didn't watch Biden's re re launch speech yesterday, but I read somewhere he is very slow and babbles. If that's true, it's shameful to run for POTUS in that condition.


He looks like a stroke victim out there on stage.

He should really choose Gabby Giffords to run with him. It would help the optics.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:23 AM (qWZVz)

170 >>I just realized the Stray Cats reunited.


Yep. Word is their shows have been really good, too.

Setzer has always been a great show, though.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:24 AM (qWZVz)

171 Failing that, does anyone know a remedy or cause for periodic inability to post here with the message "internal 500 error?" Or something like that.

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We have an iPad but I don't have much experience with it beyond being the IT guy when it doesn't work right, so my knowledge is secondhand:

There is a setting called smart type or something similar that needs to be shut off.

Another problem for everyone regardless of platforms is em dashes (the long hyphen). That and curly/angled apostrophes and quotation marks will cause the errors, too. You often can't quote content from the top of the page in the comment section without tracking down quotation marks and removing or replacing them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:24 AM (lPsvG)

172 If you like music and have a Spotify account (or similar), you can listen to literally anything just by picking up your phone and using the app.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:10 AM (Z216Q)


This and caller ID are two of the greatest services provided by 24/7 connectivity...

almost worth having all your data permanently recorded and your location tracked and known at all times.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:24 AM (3hr5B)

173 I just realized the Stray Cats reunited.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:23 AM (PUmDY)

Exactly what we've been asking for said no one ever.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 19, 2019 08:25 AM (GwY6O)

174 WaPo has a story up, saying Americas (primarily retirees) are increasingly moving to Mexico. Maybe they should build a wall?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:25 AM (Z216Q)

175 Biden basically said PDT is the Devil.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:25 AM (PUmDY)

176 Is that why Trump supports Biden?

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:26 AM (+0N+f)

177 The other problem I'm having is that I can't figure out how to adjust the monitor brightness. I have an Apple monitor and Apple keyboard which turns the brightness up or down with two buttons. They don't work with Linux, and I haven't been able to find any alternate way of doing it.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:27 AM (sdi6R)

178
Nice rain this morning. We needed it, as it hadn't rained in almost 36 hours in upstate New York.

Yeah, the same drought finally broke here too this morning

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:27 AM (Z216Q)

179 Whenever I get ti in my head to listen to something, I find it, and get to listen. It doesn't matter what room I'm in, I have an inexpensive speaker connected to the system. If you like music and have a Spotify account (or similar), you can listen to literally anything just by picking up your phone and using the app.

--

We have Sonos and I LOVE. IT. There is hardly a day I don't use it. It's hooked up to speakers in my family room TV, the kitchen, master br and Mr. Black's office. I play my music, or turn a TV show on all speakers, or even listen to radio. It's the bomb.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at May 19, 2019 08:28 AM (JoUsr)

180 >>WaPo has a story up, saying Americas (primarily retirees) are increasingly moving to Mexico.


Heh - Friend of ours moved down there in the late 90s. He's been trying to get out ever since. Lost pretty much everything he put into his Mexican Paradise as he can't get another ex-pat to buy him out.

Something about danger and lack of services...too bad he didn't see that coming, huh?

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:28 AM (qWZVz)

181 So the No-Tell Motel and Motel 6 are right out

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Ha. Yeah, unless we're somewhere interesting and isolated/old where those are the only places to stay. "Worlds Largest Milk Carton" kind of places.

I've discovered that if you wait until a few hours/minutes before you arrive that there are some really great deals on hotels dot com. We stayed in Atlanta recently and got a $600+ room for $125 a night.

Needless to say the wife was quite content.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:29 AM (lPsvG)

182 WaPo has a story up, saying Americas (primarily retirees) are increasingly moving to Mexico. Maybe they should build a wall?


Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:25 AM (Z216Q)


Have a relative who's husband is (was) building in Mexico. Last I heard they are having second thoughts. They say the area where the house is, is not in a drug cartel area...Her husband is Mexican.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:29 AM (+0N+f)

183 Release the Vic!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2019 08:30 AM (EZebt)

184 Garrett, going to see Nick Waterhouse tonight.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:30 AM (PUmDY)

185 >> They say the area where the house is, is not in a drug cartel area


So, they aren't actually in Mexico?

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:30 AM (qWZVz)

186 Ha! Fixed that one quick! I just looked on the side of the monitor and there are physical buttons there that work. I've never used them because of the ones on the Apple keyboard.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:30 AM (sdi6R)

187 [>>>almost worth having all your data permanently recorded and your location tracked and known at all times.

Heh, yes, there's that. FWIW you can set your phone not to transmit location to Spotify (and any app), which pisses off several apps. Hope Apple isn't lying to me, and they really aren't sending the info. Coin flip.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:30 AM (Z216Q)

188 Waterfox is great btw. It allows usage of old add-ons that Firefox banned, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:31 AM (lPsvG)

189 Nice Charlie.

You get to see a lot of good shows, man.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:31 AM (qWZVz)

190 The way I see it, the next Presidential election will determine who is in control of the Democratic Party. Whomever the nominee is will be the sacrificial lamb and the person upon whom blame will be laid and provide justification for the other wing to take over.

Biden as the nominee puts the Dem Old Guard Establishment on the chopping block. Biden loses and the Millennial Marxists take over.

Sanders as the nominee does the opposite.

Voter choice in this process means nothing, as we saw with the Dems gaming the system to ensure that Clinton would be the nominee. Dem superdelegates are the power and that is where the battle is.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 19, 2019 08:32 AM (IfYaq)

191 Justin Amash thinks there's enough evidence to support impeachment?

This fucking turd disgusts me.

And good morning.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 19, 2019 07:02 AM (zBaqJ)

Between him and our other Pali representative Talieb, Michigan is screwed. Luckily for us our Senators, Sabanaugh and Peters, are equally bad. The difference is Stabanaugh and Peters just stand around being useless to Michigan and the US, whereas our Pali representatives can't help embarrassing Michigan, and trying to destroy America.

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 19, 2019 08:32 AM (lonOK)

192 New Dem speech template:

"We need to return to a time when politics wasn't so mean, like before that stupid son of a bitch Trump came around. I'm going to kick his sorry ass."

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2019 08:32 AM (ZfRYq)

193 Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:22 AM (sdi6R)

Someone here recommended a noscriptish-like extension

https://gitlab.com/vannilla/ematrix

which seems to work in Pale Moon and gives a lot of insight into what is going on.

I have seen it listed as (eta)matrix and (mu)matrix as well. (Greek characters permitted on civilized sites)

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:32 AM (3hr5B)

194 Our church sponsors a missionary in Mexico City. The church (shack) is routinely burned to the ground and he has received multiple in-person death threats. Apparently the drug cartels don't appreciate the competition for souls.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:33 AM (lPsvG)

195 I am pretty sure the Donks neutered the Super Delegates after they helped Chlamydia Thundershart steal an election from Bernie Ssanders.


But, I could be wrong.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:33 AM (qWZVz)

196 WaPo has a story up, saying Americas (primarily retirees) are increasingly moving to Mexico.

No effing way.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 08:33 AM (oVJmc)

197 I gotta say, Australia really surprised a lot of folks with their latest election.


Almost as if lying to pollsters has become a world wide sport.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:34 AM (cqNba)

198 Currently back in the late 80's and listening to Bruce Hornsby. Good stuff; aged well.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:34 AM (Z216Q)

199 I lived straight "downstream" from the dam in 4th and 5th grade, NaCly.

Northview Drive about three houses from Allen Rd.
Would be gone if the dam really let go under current conditions.

When I lived there, all of those apartments and houses between Northview and Casement, and between Allen and Griffith I think it is, were nothing but farm field.

There were a few times me and 3 or 4 buds cut through that field to bypass Northview Grade School and head for the river,,, at 9, 10, 11 years old.

I blame Huck Finn.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:36 AM (A3w0Q)

200 Across the River is a great Hornsby song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:36 AM (PUmDY)

201 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Becoming strong in one skill set, add leadership and vision, and then great performance?

That is how the reinforcing rods of the Fleet - the LDOs, are selected.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:36 AM (u82oZ)

202 We looked at buying a place in MehHiCo, down along the coast, south of PDC. The mordida was killer, and the ability to transfer ownership to another ex-pat or even within your own family was limited.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2019 08:37 AM (AwVzI)

203 Amash is another gotdamn traitor. The stinking, useless GOPe is forever chock-a-block with them.

*spit*

Primary his ass.




Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 19, 2019 08:37 AM (3AmWB)

204 Chores call. Busy day. Lots of work typing, at my blazing speed of 10 wpm.

Have a blessed day, and may the ground become easy to garden, but too wet to mow.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:37 AM (u82oZ)

205 Don't look at Yahoo news if you want a peaceful Sunday. Hate Trump all the time. Pence lost his audience, many walk out on him as he gives his commencement speech, etc.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (+0N+f)

206 listening to Karl Rove (spit!) last night when I couldn't turn the tv off fast enough, he made the point the Demofascists are almost desperate to prevernt the AOC types from winning primaries, because their support is limited to "activists" only. You know "activists", like most of the Democrat party that votes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (Z216Q)

207 195
I am pretty sure the Donks neutered the Super Delegates after they
helped Chlamydia Thundershart steal an election from Bernie Ssanders.





But, I could be wrong.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:33 AM (qWZVz)

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You are, in fact, wrong.

The superdelegates still control The Party, but the new rule is that for the first ballot (and ONLY the first ballot) the Nomenklatura can't decide the outcome.

After that, it's open season.

As with all Democrat reform, it's chiefly about cementing control for the Inner Party while fooling the rubes.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (cfSRQ)

208 WaPo has a story up, saying Americas (primarily retirees) are increasingly moving to Mexico.

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All the ones that cashed in their stocks when Trump won and re-invested their retirement in bitcoin.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (lPsvG)

209 That is how the reinforcing rods of the Fleet - the LDOs, are selected.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 19, 2019 08:36 AM (u82oZ)


Diversity uber alles, or something like that, eh?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (3hr5B)

210 "That is how the reinforcing rods of the Fleet - the LDOs, are selected."

True dat.

Same argument was once made for selecting CPO's as well.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (cqNba)

211 IIRC, the phone location tracking is enabled by code stuck in apps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s8ZG6HuLrU

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:39 AM (W+vEI)

212 No effing way.

Hey, it's the WaPo. I haven't read the story, but you know, if it's even just a .002% increase, they report it like the the whole retirement community of Florida just crossed the border.

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 08:39 AM (uTY3H)

213 I just realized the Stray Cats reunited.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie
________

That doesn't make any sense. I mean, if they're back together, then they're no longer stray.

Posted by: FireHorse at May 19, 2019 08:40 AM (ta49A)

214 Don't look at Yahoo news if you want a peaceful Sunday. Hate Trump all the time. Pence lost his audience, many walk out on him as he gives his commencement speech, etc.

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The yahoo comment section makes YouTube's comments look like a debate at MIT.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:40 AM (lPsvG)

215 @BernieSanders

Charter schools are led by unaccountable, private bodies, and their growth has drained funding from the public school system. When we are in the White House we will ban for-profit charter schools.

====

But we're the fascist....

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:40 AM (cF8AT)

216 With "collusion" thoroughly discredited and impeachment off the table even among Dems, one has to wonder what would make a so-called Republican jump ON that sinking ship as the rats are scurrying off.

Egg McMuffin II, Grifter Boogaloo? An infusion of leftist billionaire cash? Something funny is going on and it ain't funny ha-ha.



Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 19, 2019 08:41 AM (3AmWB)

217 WaPo has a story up, saying Americans"

Hmm. Someone at the wapo is pimpin Mexican real estate.

Morning, y'all! Beautiful sunrise, so more coffeve!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 08:41 AM (6qErC)

218 203
Amash is another gotdamn traitor. The stinking, useless GOPe is forever chock-a-block with them.



*spit*



Primary his ass.



Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 19, 2019 08:37 AM (3AmWB)

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Opponents are lining up, have no fear.

Amash is one of those old-school grifters who is too pure for the rest of the GOP. He votes against everything because it isn't conservative enough.

When Trump showed up, he exposed the game by implementing actual conservative policies.

Naturally, Amash wants to impeach him.

I think Amash may be trying to save his ass by giving Dems a reason to cross over for him when he gets primaried. Given his "to the right of Attila the Hun" reputation, I don't think that will work.

He'll be hired by the Koch's or one of the other mega-corp lobbying firms.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (cfSRQ)

219 BernieSanders

Charter schools are led by unaccountable, private bodies, and their growth has drained funding from the public school system

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Unaccountable?

I'm guessing parents can freely pull their kids out of those schools, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (lPsvG)

220 Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:39 AM (W+vEI)

In theory, the iPhone claims you can turn off location services, and when it is turned on, you can select the individual apps that you wish to grant access to location data.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (3hr5B)

221 "The yahoo comment section makes YouTube's comments look like a debate at MIT."

Maybe a new website?

The People of Walmart Commentors of Yahoo...

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (cqNba)

222 >>Charter schools are led by unaccountable, private bodies, and their growth has drained funding from the public school system. When we are in the White House we will ban for-profit charter schools.



Aren't charter schools often a great alternative to public school for families that can't afford private school?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (W+vEI)

223 Cosmic Charlie #128:
Walmart had a buy American campaign?

As I said the other day on here, I'm so old, I remember, back when Sam Walton was alive, the Wal-Marts had great big red-white-and-blue banners proudly announcing "Everything made in the USA." Everything! Now try to find anything.

Sam was a good guy. The Wal-Mart heirs, not so much.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 08:43 AM (NsI03)

224 I'm guessing parents can freely pull their kids out of those schools, right?

That was my first thought. Aren't they accountable to the parents who are judging performance?

Posted by: no good deed at May 19, 2019 08:43 AM (uTY3H)

225 When early builders built along water ways, they built up on bluffs or higher. Now days people build right up to the water line. When we had our camp along the Delaware River, people were building right almost in the waters edge. Needless to say those places are gone now. One couple had to be air lifted out of their camp a few years ago. Helicopter came to their rescue. All the old camps are all still there, with no problems.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:43 AM (+0N+f)

226 The mordida was killer"

Or "vig"...

Heh

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 08:44 AM (6qErC)

227 Also, good morning, hello, in before the book fetishists.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 19, 2019 08:44 AM (NsI03)

228 Charter schools are led by unaccountable, private bodies, and their growth has drained funding from the public school system

Unaccountable?

I'm guessing parents can freely pull their kids out of those schools, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (lPsvG)

True, I have the option to choose paying my personal property, state, and federal taxes (which fund the public schools) or going to jail...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:45 AM (3hr5B)

229 "Aren't charter schools often a great alternative to public school for families that can't afford private school?"

They tend to outperform their public school completion in the same demographics, and communities as well.

IOW....they make the local public schools look bad.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:45 AM (cqNba)

230 >>I gotta say, Australia really surprised a lot of folks with their latest election.

I heard from a business associate from Australia last night. He was very pleased.

Oz has a very similar political environment with an aggressive SJW movement, illegal immigration issues and a far left, dishonest media.

The conservative government in Oz has delivered a good business environment and supported the mining industry which the left was attacking because global warming. Pretty stupid position in a country that lives and dies with the mining industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:45 AM (/tuJf)

231 214
The yahoo comment section makes YouTube's comments look like a debate at MIT.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:40 AM (lPsvG)


Oh joy. I don't read Yahoo but I guess I could check it out if I'm ever in need of cheap entertainment.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 08:46 AM (sdi6R)

232 Have a good day you old sea dog.

Tami, I think Bernie has it wrong. Shocker, I know.

There is a commenter here who has run a charter school for the last few years.
Same public school rules at least when it comes to firing a teacher. Nigh on impossible.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:46 AM (A3w0Q)

233 I asked this before on another thread and got the answer that I should throw out Apple products. Failing that, does anyone know a remedy or cause for periodic inability to post here with the message "internal 500 error?" Or something like that.
Posted by: AnnaS at May 19, 2019 08:18 AM (hTPJO)
~~~~~

Does it usually happen when you've copies/pasted text? And you get the 500 Error screen with lots of red text? If so, it's more than likely "smart punctuation" that's the problem.

To remedy that go to this website:

https://www.charset.org/html-special-characters

There you can enter the text you want to post and it will convert any problem areas for you. Pixy is a very particular hostess here!

Posted by: IrishEi at May 19, 2019 08:46 AM (NtglE)

234 206
listening to Karl Rove (spit!) last night when I couldn't turn
the tv off fast enough, he made the point the Demofascists are almost
desperate to prevernt the AOC types from winning primaries, because
their support is limited to "activists" only. You know "activists", like
most of the Democrat party that votes.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:38 AM (Z216Q)

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Rove actually has a point, though. AOC won a primary in which no one voted. Turnout was tiny. That was okay because her district is 80 percent Democrat and no one voted in the general, either.

But in any other kind of district, a whackjob like her would get crushed in the general.

The Dems have used media dominance for years to try to make voting Republican simply unthinkable. Yet they're now fielding candidates who are making every right-minded citizen see the Dems as the ones who are simply too crazy to be trusted with power.

Ironically, the Dem echo chamber is pushing them off this cliff.

When I go to the store today, I need to get more popcorn.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 08:47 AM (cfSRQ)

235 Aren't charter schools often a great alternative to public school for families that can't afford private school?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (W+vEI)


The charter schools let far too many peasants in and must be destroyed. Private schools can edumacate only the anointed children!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:47 AM (3hr5B)

236 @JimCarrey

I think If you're going to terminate a pregnancy, it should be done sometime before the fetus becomes Governor of Alabama.

You have to see the pic he posted with it....comments indicate Jim scored an own goal.

http://tinyurl.com/yxu5z5wf

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:47 AM (cF8AT)

237 "I heard from a business associate from Australia last night. He was very pleased. "

Doesn't Australia also have an immigration system which is very similar to what PDT is proposing?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:47 AM (cqNba)

238 IIRC, the phone location tracking is enabled by code stuck in apps?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s8ZG6HuLrU





Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:39 AM (W+vEI)

=================

I don't have a Google account and try to never use their search engine. YouTube is a problem for me, because it has so much content on it. I wish I could avoid Google entirely, the way I do Facebook.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:48 AM (Z216Q)

239 Ugh. Definitely lived up to my moniker last night. Today is going to be rough.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 19, 2019 08:48 AM (NWiLs)

240 they make the local public schools look bad."

Which is easier - that or boiling water...

Hmmm.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 19, 2019 08:49 AM (6qErC)

241 >>Doesn't Australia also have an immigration system which is very similar to what PDT is proposing?

I don't know all the specifics but yes, the Liberal Party, which is the conservative party down under, is fighting for a much more restrictive immigration policy.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:49 AM (/tuJf)

242 Outta here,,, at least for now.

Posted by: teej at May 19, 2019 08:49 AM (A3w0Q)

243 >>They tend to outperform their public school completion in the same demographics, and communities as well.

IOW....they make the local public schools look bad.


SO Bernie is essentially wanting to kill off education opportunities specific to poorer families. Families with the means can avoid public school by sending them to private schools or homeschool (which is already under attack).

Which makes me wonder if the socialists plan to do to education what they did healthcare: eliminate the competition by putting private/independent options out of business.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (W+vEI)

244 Aren't charter schools often a great alternative to public school for families that can't afford private school?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:42 AM (W+vEI)

Yes...a lot of them offer free tuition or greatly reduced tuition.

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (cF8AT)

245 Doesn't Australia also have an immigration system which is very similar to what PDT is proposing?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:47 AM (cqNba)

IIRC, Oz once had a rational immigration system, then it succumbed to being shamed by the international community of globalists, and opened its doors to the teeming hordes. Hopefully, they are now rethinking that.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (3hr5B)

246 Speaking of roots rock, I just watched an awesome 1979 documentary about Rockpile, called "Born Fighters."

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6ankyqj

I'm a total nerd for "how the studio magic happens" videos. So awesome watching how songs come together in the studio. A young and unknown Huey Lewis pops up at one point to add some blues harp and Albert Lee guests on guitar. Phil Lynott and Graham Parker are among those who drop by the studio.

Nick Lowe, Dave Edmunds, Billy Bremner and Terry Williams...what a talented bunch of guys Rockpile were.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (3AmWB)

247 YouTube is a problem for me, because it has so much content on it.

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Hooktube. Just put hook in place of "you" if anyone sends you a link.

You can search all the YouTube videos on Hooktube dot com, too.

All the videos, none of the trackers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (lPsvG)

248 It's 2019.

There are better ways than sending little Mohammed and little Inshalla to government skools.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (Z+IKu)

249 The conservative government in Oz has delivered a
good business environment and supported the mining industry which the
left was attacking because global warming. Pretty stupid position in a
country that lives and dies with the mining industry.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 08:45 AM (/tuJf)

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I saw that. One of the Aussie publications had the obligatory quotes worrying about fascism descending on the Lucky Country. Almost the same crap that was trotted out when Hillary lost.

I was reflecting on the hysteria on the left and it occurred to me that these people are actually starting to buy into their own b.s.

So they really do believe the earth will end in 10 years, etc. Absolutely bonkers.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at May 19, 2019 08:51 AM (cfSRQ)

250 Which makes me wonder if the socialists plan to do to education what they did healthcare: eliminate the competition by putting private/independent options out of business.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:50 AM (W+vEI)


Didn't Barky do something just like that for DC charter schools?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:51 AM (3hr5B)

251 "Which is easier - that or boiling water... "

If all you have is a hammer, every pot of water looks like a nail

Maslow:

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:52 AM (cqNba)

252 >>@JimCarrey

I think If you're going to terminate a pregnancy, it should be done sometime before the fetus becomes Governor of Alabama.
- - - -
Translation: You people think I want to kill babies, but what I really want to do is kill all people who get in my way, even those born decades ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:52 AM (W+vEI)

253 215 @BernieSanders

Charter schools are led by unaccountable, private bodies, and their growth has drained funding from the public school system. When we are in the White House we will ban for-profit charter schools.

====

But we're the fascist....
Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:40 AM (cF8AT)

Watch the FOR PROFIT mysteriously disappear.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 08:53 AM (JFO2v)

254 Too bad Australia has a stupid gun policy...

Posted by: lin-duh at May 19, 2019 08:54 AM (UUBmN)

255 >>Didn't Barky do something just like that for DC charter schools?

Sort of - it was a lottery that placed a small number pf selected students in private school at little or no cost to the parents, IIRC.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 08:54 AM (W+vEI)

256 There is a YouTube video with a person interviewing people in AOC's district. Maybe it was cheery picking, but not one person liked her, if fact they hate her. Not sure what the title of the video is. watched it yesterday.

Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2019 08:54 AM (+0N+f)

257 Oh joy. I don't read Yahoo but I guess I could check it out if I'm ever in need of cheap entertainment.

-

It's the internet's version of driving by a car crash.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:54 AM (lPsvG)

258 In his interview with Bill Hemmer, AG Barr indicated that he didn't yet have all the answers, and those answers he did have he was not pleased with. This strengthens my suspicion that Wray is a creature of the swamp, doing his best to "protect the institution."

Posted by: IrishEi at May 19, 2019 08:54 AM (NtglE)

259 Nice pairing...

https://tinyurl.com/yxbxj2nz

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 08:54 AM (PUmDY)

260 "Which makes me wonder if the socialists plan to do to education what they did healthcare: eliminate the competition by putting private/independent options out of business."

One of the key unspoken underpinnings of Socialism is...'No Competition'

Doesn't matter what area of endeavor it concerns.

Competition is bad.


Under Socialism.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:55 AM (cqNba)

261 Reuters reports Iranian police are raiding "underground modeling agencies", looking for chicks.


See, if Muslims only knew how to drink beer they could go out to bars and restaurants for dates, like the rest of humanity.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:56 AM (Z216Q)

262 This strengthens my suspicion that Wray is a creature of the swamp, doing his best to "protect the institution."

Yes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, the Bwaana returns at May 19, 2019 08:57 AM (Z216Q)

263 The People of Yahoo could be a money making idea btw.

Heck, some dude named his cat Tard because it had dwarfism and looked grumpy and people gave him $100M.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 08:57 AM (lPsvG)

264 Competition is bad.
Under Socialism.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 19, 2019 08:55 AM (cqNba)


Comrade VIA, competition makes it harder for our apparatchiks to collect the graft!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:58 AM (3hr5B)

265 Didn't Barky do something just like that for DC charter schools?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:51 AM (3hr5B)

Yep Cancelled thousands of vouchers for the poor in DC!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 08:59 AM (JFO2v)

266 @SallyGold

Observations from Iowa - it is very flat, driving is monotonous, there is more unbuilt land in one block than NYC has in an entire borough, dirt roads are terrifying, no one carries almond milk and caucus-goers are extremely well-informed.

And @ndhapple and I will never be so happy to step onto a subway again.

(Politico reporter)

She took a sound beating in the comments....

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 08:59 AM (cF8AT)

267 180 >>WaPo has a story up, saying Americas (primarily retirees) are increasingly moving to Mexico.


Heh - Friend of ours moved down there in the late 90s. He's been trying to get out ever since. Lost pretty much everything he put into his Mexican Paradise as he can't get another ex-pat to buy him out.

Something about danger and lack of services...too bad he didn't see that coming, huh?
Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2019 08:28 AM (qWZVz)

Are these possibly retired American Latinos that are just moving back home? The retired parents (teacher, accountant) of someone I work with are moving back to the town the mother was from, and kept ties to, and where they still have family.

Posted by: Gem at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (XoAz8)

268 there is more unbuilt land in one block than NYC has in an entire borough

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Yet she is still somehow convinced of a population crisis.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (rmuZt)

269 @realDonaldTrump

For all of the Fake News Sunday Political Shows, whose bias & dishonesty is greater than ever seen in our Country before, please inform your viewers that our Economy is setting records, with more people employed today than at any time in U.S. history, our Military, which....

....was a depleted disaster, will soon be stronger than ever before, our Vets are finally being taken care of and now have Choice, our Courts will have 145 great new Judges, and 2 Supreme Court Justices, got rid of the disastrous Individual Mandate & will protect Pre-Existing....

....Conditions, drug prices down for first time in 51 years (& soon will drop much further), Right to Try, protecting your 2nd Amendment, big Tax & Reg Cuts, 3.2 GDP, Strong Foreign Policy, & much much more that nobody else would have been able to do. Our Country is doing GREAT!

Posted by: Tami at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (cF8AT)

270 Didn't Barky do something just like that for DC charter schools?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 08:51 AM (3hr5B)

Yep Cancelled thousands of vouchers for the poor in DC!

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 08:59 AM (JFO2v)


There was a video called "Waiting for Superman", I think, that made you want to cry for the people trapped in DC trying to get a good education for their children!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (3hr5B)

271 Nood books!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

272 Yet she is still somehow convinced of a population crisis.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Media Controls the Whether Machines at May 19, 2019 09:01 AM (rmuZt)


To be fair, if you can't find a nearby subway or almond milk, can you really be said to be alive?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 19, 2019 09:03 AM (3hr5B)

273 Bhussein took out funding for 1700 voucher for poor in DC. Was in 2010 temp funding bill. Repub tried to attach and fund but were overridden by dems 50 to 39.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 19, 2019 09:04 AM (JFO2v)

274 >>@SallyGold

Observations from Iowa - it is very flat, driving is monotonous, there is more unbuilt land in one block than NYC has in an entire borough, dirt roads are terrifying, no one carries almond milk and caucus-goers are extremely well-informed.
- - - -
It is my policy with New Yorkers like this who insist that NYC is the best, most civilized place in the world is to enthusiastically agree with them and encourage them to return ASAP!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 09:05 AM (W+vEI)

275 Teacher unions are Communists through and through

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:06 AM (BbGew)

276 Seems like the politicos and their apparats only go to a couple counties of Iowa, and then act like they know all the places and all the people.

In northeast Iowa, you have the Unswept Area, thousand foot bluffs over the Mississippi, steep little smooth mountains with switchback roads and hundred-mile views. They have their own Pike's Peak.
Never heard a campaigner mention it.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2019 09:07 AM (8ZmvG)

277 Thanks for your help and suggestions, sock_rat_eez, Our Country is Screwed, Commissar Hrothgar, and anyone else I missed.

It's been a productive morning. My formatting and monitor brightness problems are both fixed, leaving e-mail as the only real problem I have with Linux at the moment. I'll have to call Comcast about that, I think.

Overall, I'm very happy with Linux so far. I've spent the last few days exploring it and haven't even scratched the surface yet.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2019 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

278 Dennis Prager Friday was saying ( he was a NYer) that NYers think it's the only place to live, and his first paid for trip to Nashville when he was early 20's opened his eyes that NYers are totally wrong.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:09 AM (BbGew)

279 rickl by the time you figure it out it will update changing everything and you'll have to learn all over again.

Posted by: Skip at May 19, 2019 09:11 AM (BbGew)

280 >>Dennis Prager Friday was saying ( he was a NYer) that NYers think it's the only place to live, and his first paid for trip to Nashville when he was early 20's opened his eyes that NYers are totally wrong.



Shhhh! With the exception of our NYC 'rons and 'ettes, I'd rather they keep believing that!!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2019 09:11 AM (W+vEI)

281 Hornsby and Jerry has a connection...

https://tinyurl.com/y4b87omt

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 19, 2019 09:12 AM (PUmDY)

282 @SallyGold

Observations from Iowa - it is very flat, driving is monotonous, there is more unbuilt land in one block than NYC has in an entire borough, dirt roads are terrifying, no one carries almond milk and caucus-goers are extremely well-informed.




Gee. Why do people think the media are condescending?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2019 09:31 AM (oVJmc)

283 >>Hornsby and Jerry has a connection...

Bigly

Posted by: JackStraw at May 19, 2019 09:54 AM (/tuJf)

284 According to Justin Amash's financial disclosure forms Amash is a co owner of Dynamic Source International a Chinese company that supplies Michigan Industrial Tools.
Dynamic Source Int is located in Hangzhou China.
No wonder Justin Amash's been attacking Trump's Tariffs!

Posted by: Deep State is In DEEP SHIT at May 19, 2019 10:04 AM (BqBId)

285 Mint isn't like that. You have to manually do major upgrades.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 19, 2019 11:05 AM (Lqy/e)

Saturday Overnight Open Thread (5/18/19)

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Saturday Night's Alright For Baking


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The Saturday Night Joke


A man was telling his buddy : "You won't believe what happened last night."

My daughter walked into the living room and said : Dad, cancel my allowance immediately, forget my college tuition loan, rent my room out, throw all my clothes out the window, take my TV and my laptop.

Please take any of my jewelry to the Salvation Army or Cash Converters. Then sell my car, take my house key away, and throw me out.

Then disown me and never talk to me again. And don't forget to write me out of your will and leave my share to any charity you choose."

"Holy Smokes," replied the friend, " - she actually said that?"

"Well, she didn't put it quite like that. She actually said :

"Dad, meet my new boyfriend, Mohammed. We're going to work together on Elizabeth Warren’s Presidential Campaign." H/T “Blake - used vacation salesman.”

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The moose out front should have told you................


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It's the internet, is it true? Is it false? We here at The ONT have no clue. But, it is an interesting situation.

Man’s Parents Are Pissed He Reported Car Stolen After His Sister ‘Borrowed It’ Without Permission

Siblings can be the absolute worst sometimes—right? No matter how many times you tell them “no, you can’t borrow my shirt,” they’ll somehow walk out of the house with it on. They just don’t understand the word “no.”


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How was your vacation? Well, the accommodations sucked big time.

It seems that no matter how hard Airbnb’s staff tries to secure and guarantee a welcoming experience for their clients and hosts, the Internet still keeps on posting the most absurd and sometimes even scary Airbnb stories. In fact, there have been some really terrifying ones. Luckily, the one we have prepared for you today is more funny than bad and it does have a happy ending. But just like any other unsuccessful Airbnb story, this one does remind you to always read the reviews and check for the safest options on Airbnb because you never know when you might end up sleeping in a shipping container.

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My suggestion, for what it is worth. Don't forward this to any self-righteous "media" on Twitter. You might just find yourself suspended.

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Practice makes perfect, Unless you're a naked Florida man. Then you get arrested.

A Florida man caught playing basketball naked at a public park said he thought it would help improve his skills, according to police.

A park employee said he saw a man playing basketball while in the buff at Candyland Park in Longwood, Florida, Sunday evening and immediately contacted authorities.


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Tonight's Word of The Night is Vexatious

adjective
causing or tending to cause annoyance, frustration, or worry.
"the vexatious questions posed by software copyrights"
synonyms: annoying, vexing, irritating, irksome, displeasing, infuriating, maddening, exasperating, provoking, galling, rankling, grating, jarring, harassing, harrying, bothersome, tiresome, troublesome, niggling; More
LAW
denoting an action or the bringer of an action that is brought without sufficient grounds for winning, purely to cause annoyance to the defendant.


Yes, Mr. Christopher Fitzgibbon appears to be Vexatious and a possible Genius Award Winner.


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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally, i don't see the beauty or have the $91 Million to buy it.

A 3-foot-tall silver bunny just set an art world record. Rabbit, by the playful and controversial artist Jeff Koons, sold for more than $91 million at Christie's Auction House — the most for work by a living artist at auction.

Robert Mnuchin, an art dealer and the father of the Treasury secretary, had the winning bid on behalf of a client.

The stainless steel sculpture is a faceless space bunny, a balloon that's not a balloon. The piece was one of 11 works that were offered from the collection of magazine publisher S.I. Newhouse, the longtime chairman of Condé Nast who died in 2017.


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One needs to complete a job application to become an armed fighter or a suicide bomber. Who knew Al-Qaeda has an HR Department?

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The ONT Musical Interlude


Young Uncle Teddy.......................


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The Gun Thread and The ONT Musical Interlude all wrapped up into one.


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There has to be a better way to raise money for a Woman's Shelter.

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Revoked license? Check. In possession of Meth? Check. On the way to the Police Department? Check. Genius Award Winner.

Woman Drives To Jail On Suspended License With Meth In Her Pants


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by Cursing.

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Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

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1 Creative loafing!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (kQs4Y)

2 Good evening!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (IfYaq)

3 Good night horde

Posted by: Skip at May 18, 2019 09:56 PM (BbGew)

4 &#Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (CLcKT)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (icuj/)

6 *tucks Skip in*

(to bed)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 09:57 PM (kQs4Y)

7 Just a joke on that purple gang comment, JT.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 09:58 PM (A3w0Q)

8 Hey oh!

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (9Gcv4)

9 Hiya.

I'm late, sorry, complicated business.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (htgmn)

10 Read the content and watched two of the vids. Where is everyone?

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (PkVlr)

11 The guy with the moose is in charge.

Posted by: navybrat, occasional commentater at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (w7KSn)

12 9 Hiya.

I'm late, sorry, complicated business.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 09:59 PM (htgmn)


I have the rest of the night........

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (aA3+G)

13 How was your day, Dear?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (htgmn)

14 Well. I tried. Guess it's off to spend time with Jim, Jack, and Jose.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (IfYaq)

15 I have the rest of the night........
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:00 PM (aA3+G)

What do you have in mind?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (htgmn)

16 Playing a sport naked can improve your skills?? Huh.

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (fiC74)

17 Just a joke on that purple gang comment, JT.

I know, I know !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (icuj/)

18 I am vexed by that disgusting cocktail.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (4knXT)

19 Baking bread for the Overnight Thread!

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (NsI03)

20 I saw Ted Nugent in concert in Des Moines.

He puts on quite a show.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (htgmn)

21 Is that Ma Barker in the top pic ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:02 PM (icuj/)

22 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (fiC74)

23 Greeting from Belgium, Wisconsin!

It's the middle of May and it's 47 freakin' degrees.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (jNdqc)

24 There has to be a better way to raise money for a Woman's Shelter.

And feminists are fond of calling men pigs.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (+lVUW)

25 Playing a sport naked can improve your skills?? Huh.

Well, not alligator wrestling.

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (icuj/)

26
It's the middle of May and it's 47 freakin' degrees.
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (jNdqc)

It was like 92 here in NE GA.

I love living in the South.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (htgmn)

27 Just a few minutes from Manitowac.

Think I should go find that guy? Buy him a sausage?

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (jNdqc)

28 This makes me happy.

Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these kids work hard!

https://youtu.be/4Quc3-AguiQ

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (9Gcv4)

29 Is baker lady carrying a pistol?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (8AONa)

30 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.

Did Hillary lose that one TOO ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (icuj/)

31 The size of that loaf of bread.

Posted by: davidt at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (EfMCv)

32 Is baker lady carrying a pistol?
Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (8AONa)


Nah, she's just happy to see you.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (aS1PU)

33 that's one heck of a big loaf of bread!

she seems proud, and rightly so

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (xIKXj)

34 Who's Granny is that in the top pic?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (htgmn)

35 Is baker lady carrying a pistol?
Posted by: 2009Refugee


Her oven ain't the only thing that packs heat.

Posted by: mikeski at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (P1f+c)

36 RE: Jeff Koons, the late great Spy Magazine had a funny prank where they displayed kid's artwork in a spare white museum space with the usual dense ArtSpeak explaining "The New Neo-Neos". A little girl spray-painted an inflatable bunny rabbit a ala Koons and the crowd was swooning over it. "It's like a very intelligent child painted this."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (kQs4Y)

37 Hey nurse R,

I mentioned today how good Doris Day looked in her buckskin trousers in Calamity Jane and someone came back with that's how you dress when hunting woodpeckers.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (A3w0Q)

38 Is that... Ma Baker?

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (NsI03)

39 Missed the Movie Thread so will ask my question now. Is it Michael Caine who said he never turned down a role that was offered? I watched The Last Witch Hunter last week and he had a part in it. It actually wasn't an awful movie, although it certainly wasn't great either.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (uquGJ)

40 I'm honestly surprised Florida Man was reported to the cops. That seems like small potatoes by their standards.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (2PXwn)

41 Half a loaf is better than none.

As to the moose guy - that looks like a fairly young female. A full fledged male, with antlers, would have run him down and not even noticed that he had a stick or, if he did, it would have just pissed the moose off even more.

That being said - still pretty impressive to stand your ground against any wild animal that size.

Good evening all - In the good ole US of A for my sons graduation from Carnegie Mellon tomorrow. Kudos to all hordling graduates out there!

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 18, 2019 10:06 PM (46K9N)

42
What do you have in mind?
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:01 PM (htgmn)


It has something to do with May snow showers.......

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:07 PM (aA3+G)

43 Her oven ain't the only thing that packs heat.

Posted by: mikeski

And she gets no repeat complaints.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 18, 2019 10:07 PM (8AONa)

44 Does Airbnb still require you to have a facebook account? Never used it because of that.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:07 PM (PUmDY)

45 I'm convinced that all the idiotic big ticket 'art' sales are just a money laundering scheme.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (9Gcv4)

46 Who's going to ID the handgun?

Posted by: davidt at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (EfMCv)

47 It was like 92 here in NE GA.

I love living in the South.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (htgmn)

I'm from the Rio Grande Valley. Ya know, The Wall country. It'll be mid90s there from now until November.

Wisconsinites must not own calendars. If they knew it was May surely they would protest!

I miss warm weather.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (jNdqc)

48 Who's going to ID the handgun?

NSA Bob ?

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:09 PM (icuj/)

49 So I have a decision to make.

Gilligan or the Professor?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:09 PM (htgmn)

50

What's air bnb, the one where the owner is there or not there?

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (//+WH)

51 So I have a decision to make.

Gilligan or the Professor?
Posted by: ALH, Herself

Embace the power of AND !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (icuj/)

52 Handgun looks like a Browning 1910. Or maybe I'm not drunk enough yet.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (IfYaq)

53 This is cool. Cross section of the USS Constitution.

https://bit.ly/2LSvLwc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (+y/Ru)

54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day long. All the usual sophomoric tropes are represented. "Men will have a say on abortion when they carry their own baby." "The Bible is not the law of the land." Yada yada yada.

Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

Ugh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)

55 Yes.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (PUmDY)

56 And embrace it too !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (icuj/)

57 Where is my fucking cupcake

Posted by: 4 year old at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (ucNdt)

58 Wisconsinites must not own calendars. If they knew it was May surely they would protest!

I miss warm weather.
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:08 PM (jNdqc)


I own a calendar and the NOAA says snow showers tomorrow. The air was blue when I read that.

The snowbanks on our dead end road just left on Friday.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (aA3+G)

59 31 The size of that loaf of bread.
Posted by: davidt at May 18, 2019 10:05 PM (EfMCv)

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It had to get a family of 15 through the entire winter.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:12 PM (4knXT)

60 Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

Posted by: Cicero

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That's exactly what I hit them with. Something along the lines of "You can call it whatever you want, but all "successful" abortions result in the death of the child."

I get crickets most of the time back.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 18, 2019 10:12 PM (Y4EXg)

61 I would not consider one in which the owner or other people would be there.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (PUmDY)

62 My God! That's a real drink served in a real bar! The Downfall of Western Civilization is at hand.

Posted by: RickZ at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (Y8PSl)

63 Oh god, that joke. XD

Would it be just for going out with the Mo, volunteeting for Warren, or does it have to be both.

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (OnEJV)

64 Maybe that photo is her snapshot for FarmersOnly. Ingeborg can bake a mean loaf, is a crack shot, and rolls her own ciggies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (kQs4Y)

65
You see the newest ancestry dot com tv ad with the broad who found out she's cousins with George Washington?

He owned slaves!!! How long until that ad gets pulled from tv?

btw, I want you all to remember who predicted Disney will remove the Washington and Jackson robots from their robot presidents. Because I really believe it's gonna happen.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:13 PM (//+WH)

66 Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

* Goes wheeling down the hall in office chair *

Posted by: mindful webworker - click for vids at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (NsI03)

67 Once again, I'm counting me lucky charms that Florida Man is no one I know.

Yet.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (HaL55)

68 Holy shit I'm like two miles from Lake Michigan!

I can't pick up my load until Monday morning. Tempted to take a short hike over tomorrow.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (jNdqc)

69 Cicero, I received a text from my ex landlord promising she'd mail me a check for my deposit the 31st, and apologizing for 'forgetting.'

that letter, in which I said all that you suggested I say, may have worked a wonder.

I'll let you know if the check ever comes. But thank you for your help!

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (xIKXj)

70
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)

I am seeing the same thing. I had no idea that some of my friends supported infanticide. I am at a loss for words.
There is a huge divide in this world between good and evil.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (htgmn)

71 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.

Eric Weinstein:

Anyone notice a pattern?

A) Mainstream commentators decide amongst themselves that right-of-center positions are only held by a bad fringe.

B) Voters then lie to pollsters in response.

C) A vote is held.

D) Same commentators switch to complaining about dangers of "populism".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (I2/tG)

72 I wonder what the mold was that Grannie used to make that loaf. Some clay thing?

Before she came into a few extra bucks, Nonna TP used empty gallon containers of olive oil with one side cut out as her bread pans.

I didn't know until I went to college that folks baked bread in any other manner.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (Y4EXg)

73 49 So I have a decision to make.

Gilligan or the Professor?
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:09 PM (htgmn)
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Have a threesome with Thurston and Lovey, followed by cocktails and dancing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (kQs4Y)

74

In fact, I'll bet we can make it happen. A couple of strategic tweets and a facebook post on how it's 'offensive' for Disney to celebrate slave-owning robot presidents...

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (//+WH)

75 28 This makes me happy.

Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these kids work hard!

https://youtu.be/4Quc3-AguiQ
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (9Gcv4)


That's some serious cultural appropriation. It shouldn't make you happy; you should be feeling unsafe.

Posted by: Emmie at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (4HMW8)

76 54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day"

he's not a "friend".

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (V2Yro)

77 I'll let you know if the check ever comes. But thank you for your help!
Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:14 PM (xIKXj)

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Glad I could be of some meager assistance, booknlass!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (4knXT)

78 Have a threesome with Thurston and Lovey, followed by cocktails and dancing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (kQs4Y)


It's a thought....

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (htgmn)

79 Good Evening

Posted by: wing at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (JFzNN)

80 Flirting with Disaster has a funny b&b plot joke segment.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (PUmDY)

81 I own a calendar and the NOAA says snow showers tomorrow. The air was blue when I read that.

The snowbanks on our dead end road just left on Friday.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:11 PM (aA3+G)

Life doesn't have to be all about suffering.

You could move to Texas.

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (jNdqc)

82 LOL, I think Uncle Todd has been teaching the 4 yr old new words.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (ufFY8)

83 Is Trump in the Hall of President yet?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (kQs4Y)

84
Today's 'Plugger' cartoon. Many here will appreciate it:

http://tinyurl.com/y6puloyu

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (CDGwz)

85 76 54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day"

he's not a "friend".
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:15 PM (V2Yro)

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It's a her. She's a teachers union hack.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (4knXT)

86 Think if you said no to the lady up top you'd get cracked?

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:17 PM (K22Va)

87

Rabbit season?

Posted by: Daffy Duck at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (aKsyK)

88 B) Voters then lie to pollsters in response.

It's interesting in Australia that even the exit polls were badly wrong, and predicted a left-wing victory.

Clearly, a lot of voters voted for the conservative party, and then lied to a pollster at the polling place about who they voted for.

Good on ya, mate!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (I2/tG)

89 With a pistol no less, lol.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (K22Va)

90 Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

They've gone completely nuts. They used to say that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. Now, at Planned Butcherhood events, they're cheering people who admit to having multiple abortions. I guess that being irresponsible enough to have TWO OR MORE unwanted pregnancies is something to be proud of.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:18 PM (+lVUW)

91
Is Trump in the Hall of President yet?

Someone here said they saw him. I forget who.

But they said Robot President Trump nods his head to Robot President Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (//+WH)

92 Think I'll stick with Martinis, Old Fashioneds, and Sidecars.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (sdi6R)

93 When I look at that baker, I can't help but think they're just ain't many people that tough around anymore. Oh, the SJW's and ANTIFA pussies "think" they're tough - but they're just cosplayers in their own sad little drama. My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.

Look at her eyes; she could put down a riot by herself. Or start one, if she felt like it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (V2Yro)

94 Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

Hopefully, this does not prove vexatious to the Powers-That-Be.

Aw, h*ell, they never read the ONT. Crank up The Village People, AND LET'S PAR-TAY!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (DMUuz)

95 54 Some idiot lib FB friend has been posting pro-abortion crap all day long. All the usual sophomoric tropes are represented. "Men will have a say on abortion when they carry their own baby." "The Bible is not the law of the land." Yada yada yada.

Do these bints ever stop to consider the reality of what they're supporting? That maybe their support for tearing a viable baby to pieces in the womb isn't going to play well with some of the people they're broadcasting to?

Ugh.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:10 PM (4knXT)



Go to the Babylon Bee. This week they have had two great articles. "Liberals demand the overturning of Roe v Wade because abortion should not be decided by old white men" with a picture of the Supreme Court bench that made that decision. And today they had a "you can't oppose killing puppies unless you are willing to adopt all dogs" "opinion" piece

Posted by: Buzzion at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (l5VZD)

96 Disney World Hall of Presidents? Lol, he never will be.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:20 PM (PUmDY)

97 What happened in Australia?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:20 PM (ufFY8)

98 " he's not a friend." "

Bingo

The older I have become the deeper the meaning has become to that word, friend.

Finding that out would immediately move them into the acquaintance catagory.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (A3w0Q)

99 As I understand it, in australia voting is required under penalty of a heavy fine, turnout is always crazy high, and one would think that polling would be pretty accurate...yet it was way way off.

I think it just shows that political polling is pretty much garbage.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (IfYaq)

100 I made a ham & potato casserole. Should we have it for Sunday lunch, or save it for Monday supper.

It's really nice to have a real meal after work.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (htgmn)

101 Life doesn't have to be all about suffering.

You could move to Texas.
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:16 PM (jNdqc)


No offense, but Texas topography isn't my favorite.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

102 Clearly, a lot of voters voted for the conservative party, and then lied to a pollster at the polling place about who they voted for.
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In England they called it the Shy Tory effect.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (kQs4Y)

103 Old Fashioneds rule.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (PUmDY)

104 97 What happened in Australia?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:20 PM (ufFY

Some blokes did some things.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (NWiLs)

105
Then again, someone here also said Disney just put an orange wig on their hitlery clinton robot they had already built in anticipation of hitlery's inevitable victory.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM (//+WH)

106 My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher...
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (V2Yro)


True. My great grandfather was a US Marshall in New Mexico Territory and was shot dead by a bandit he was chasing. Grandma grew up with a step father.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM (aS1PU)

107 94 Notice: Posted with permission by no one actually. Everyone is out of the office tonight.

Hopefully, this does not prove vexatious to the Powers-That-Be.

Aw, h*ell, they never read the ONT. Crank up The Village People, AND LET'S PAR-TAY!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (DMUuz)


Village People?

Its like I don't even know you Morons

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (aA3+G)

108 EU elections next week and I don't understand much of their process but Farage's Brexit party may surprise everyone.

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (fiC74)

109 350 million people and this is the best they can do? lol

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (K22Va)

110 "Men will have a say on abortion when they carry their own baby."

Also, they're deluding themselves into thinking that women aren't a significant part of the anti-abortion movement. Of course they have the same problem with Trump. They don't get it, that a large part of his support is from women like me who believe that we need to stop encouraging irresponsible and illegal behavior.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (+lVUW)

111 Oh shit that Jihadi job application is funny.

"Any hobbies or pastimes?......"

It's fun to read it out loud like Achmed The Dead Terrorist.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (HaL55)

112 Then again, someone here also said Disney just put an orange wig on their hitlery clinton robot they had already built in anticipation of hitlery's inevitable victory.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM (//+WH)

Did they really? That's hilarious, just as funny as the cancelled fireworks show.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (htgmn)

113 i really really love Ted's tail.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:24 PM (xIKXj)

114 105
Then again, someone here also said Disney just put an orange wig on their hitlery clinton robot they had already built in anticipation of hitlery's inevitable victory.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:22 PM

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Disney will just repurpose the fat drunk pirate who's sleeping with the pigs in Pirates of the Caribbean.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:25 PM (4knXT)

115 On a scale of one to Mazie Hirono discussing quantum physics, how stupid is this?

Calvin Klein is apologizing after the fashion label came under fire for a video campaign showing model Bella Hadid kissing female robot Lil Miquela.
The 30-second ad drew backlash since Hadid identifies as heterosexual, with critics commenting, "There are plenty of real LGBTQ Models that could have been used."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (soHCJ)

116 No offense, but Texas topography isn't my favorite.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM (aA3+G)

Texas Titties aren't big enough for you, is that what you're sayin'?

Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (jNdqc)

117 Disney will just repurpose the fat drunk pirate who's sleeping with the pigs in Pirates of the Caribbean.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:25 PM (4knXT)


Walt Disney is spinning in his grave faster that a neutron star.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (aS1PU)

118 What happened in Australia?

Hillary lost AGAIN !

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (icuj/)

119 Is that a Glock in the apron pocket? Because that looks like a Glock.

I'm pretty sure this is proof of time travel.

Was Ace's time machine involved, or is there Another?

Posted by: Iowa Bob at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (bjCNA)

120 *waves at Nurse Ratched*
Emergency gardening protocol has been activated. My bamboo has escaped the buried metal enclosure that kept it contained. Giant sprouts appeared overnight after the big rain. If I don't appear in the Book Thread tomorrow, avenge me!
I wanna drink...


Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (iwoyh)

121 Aw, h*ell, they never read the ONT. Crank up The Village People, AND LET'S PAR-TAY!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:19 PM (DMUuz)


The Village People are terribly underrated. Ahead of their time, even.
We have weirder weirdos these days.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (htgmn)

122

No golf fans here?
No fans of knockers, either?

I thought the Six Million Dollar Man clip I linked earlier was darn good. Funny and booby. Perhaps you just missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofxhsVWB5A

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (//+WH)

123 A Florida man caught playing basketball naked at a public park said he thought it would help improve his skills, according to police.


********

Just look at him dribble!

Posted by: Hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (m45I2)

124 Cicero, lol!

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (PUmDY)

125 I just thought of a fascinating corollary to the problem with polls now (ie, the fact that they are turning out to be so consistently wrong) - What about the politicians and candidates who are always chasing the latest polls to see what they should be thinking and saying? (Like Lizzie Warren, and Buttplug, and Kameltoe, etc) Shouldn't they be worrying that "hey, what if I am basing my entire political persona on false information?"

Well of course that's what they SHOULD be thinking, but since there's some kind if IQ test you gotta fail to be a Dem Candidate today, that will never occur to them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (V2Yro)

126 On that Calvin Klein ad...I couldn't tell which one was the robot.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (IfYaq)

127

As I understand it, in australia voting is required under penalty of a heavy fine

Clearly, a lot of voters voted for the conservative party, and then lied to a pollster at the polling place about who they voted for.


Maybe they'll make it illegal to lie to a pollster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (aKsyK)

128 A Florida man caught playing basketball naked at a public park said he thought it would help improve his skills, according to police.
********
Just look at him dribble!


Amazing ball-handling skills.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (soHCJ)

129 Goodnite Horde.

I'm gonna go fall asleep watching Miller's Crossing.

"What's the rumpus ?"


zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (icuj/)

130 In England they called it the Shy Tory effect.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM


'E's not shy! 'E was in the pool, it's shrinkage!

Posted by: Mr. Tory at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (DMUuz)

131 Also, they're deluding themselves into thinking that women aren't a significant part of the anti-abortion movement. Of course they have the same problem with Trump. They don't get it, that a large part of his support is from women like me who believe that we need to stop encouraging irresponsible and illegal behavior.
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (+lVUW)

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They've convinced themselves that the only reason men oppose abortion is because they hate women and want to symbolically enslave them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:28 PM (4knXT)

132 So in a very exciting day (not really) while waiting for the oven to finish its self-clean cycle, it occurred to me that I could have tossed the nasty old bbq grate in there.

Have any of you ever tried that?

It's stainless steel, I doubt it will explode...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (0ReGO)

133 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)

134 Australia has its own election night surprise I see.
Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:03 PM (fiC74)

Pixy mentioned it on his blog earlier.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (tVQUs)

135
You hear about this fake outrage?

Cape Cod, Massachusetts: A store was displaying some Shark related paraphernalia such as postcards and stuff with "Nice To Eat You" on it, and "Send More Tourists!"

Guess what happened next.


oUtRaGe!!

The store removed all of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (//+WH)

136 Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (jNdqc)


I enjoy woods and water and have my dream home. The weather can be tolerated at this time in my life.

Now when I turn 39 that may be an issue.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

137
I shit you not. That happened this week.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (//+WH)

138 I need a reading tutor. Halfway through that JackStraw link and it appears to be a hit piece on Bush, Gonzales, Cheney, and Card, and some fluffy cotton candy for commies Comey, Mueller, and Wray.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (ZS+GP)

139 They don't get it, that a large part of his support is from women like me who believe that we need to stop encouraging irresponsible and illegal behavior.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:23 PM (+lVUW)


So judgy. You're harshing someone's mellow somewhere, violating their safe space. Twitter MUST know all about this MAGA oppression. BRB, well after I hit the GrubHub app first . . .

Posted by: RickZ at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (Y8PSl)

140 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.

Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)

141 No offense, but Texas topography isn't my favorite.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:21 PM

=====

Texas Titties aren't big enough for you, is that what you're sayin'?
Posted by: Robert at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM


Texas hair isn't big enough for you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (DMUuz)

142 You hear about this fake outrage?

Cape Cod, Massachusetts: A store was displaying some Shark related paraphernalia such as postcards and stuff with "Nice To Eat You" on it, and "Send More Tourists!"

Guess what happened next.


oUtRaGe!!

The store removed all of it.
Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (//+WH


When the mob erupts, people have got to remember to use the tried and true:
Lol, get fucked.

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (aS1PU)

143 118 What happened in Australia?

Hillary lost AGAIN !
Posted by: JT at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (icuj/)
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Ha!

Never gets old!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (kQs4Y)

144 Now when I turn 39 that may be an issue.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

That's still 10 years away. You can always sell and move into an active adult community.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (htgmn)

145 Hiya BackwardsBoy,

Haven't seen em yet but two Farmer toms are in to help shrink my "footprint" on smaller stages. Already had Farmer foot drum.
Also a new, better Shure than my current Shure kick mic and a couple of Earthworks overhead mics.
Current Shure kick mic will replace current Shure floor tom mic.
I got outvoted so the band bought all of it.

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (A3w0Q)

146 A testicle festival?

Do they have a basketball tournament by any chance...?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (IfYaq)

147 My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.
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My grandfather worked his farm with mules, for most of his life. It was a small farm, and they often had to mortgage it to buy seed for the planting season.

My grandfather did the farming, my grandmother did everything else, including raising her chickens and taking care of the garden.

I can remember when the only water was from a hand pump.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (CDGwz)

148 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Three three finalists were "I'm with her.", "Please, give the shoe back.", and "It's vodka in America."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (soHCJ)

149 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)

I recall that they considered "I'm ready for Hillary" and "It's her turn".

Posted by: Surfperch at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (tVQUs)

150 Fucking NYT:


The election had presented Australia, a vital American ally in the
Asia-Pacific, with a crucial question: Would it remain on a rightward
path and stick with a political coalition that promised economic
stability, jobs and cuts to immigration or choose greater action on climate change and income inequality?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (ufFY8)

151 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)

152 148 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Three three finalists were "I'm with her.", "Please, give the shoe back.", and "It's vodka in America."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (soHCJ)

A semi-finalist was "Vote for me you fucking shitbags, Or I will make you sorry you were ever born!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (V2Yro)

153 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)


OH THE HUMANITY!

Posted by: DR.WTF at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (aS1PU)

154 The international date line seriously messes up polling data. Or something.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (soHCJ)

155 She's with me.

Posted by: Bollard at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (EfMCv)

156 140: two of a kind used to be a stop on the way to two rivers every weekend.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (KP5rU)

157 Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these kids work hard!

https://youtu.be/4Quc3-AguiQ
Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:04 PM (9Gcv4)

That's some serious cultural appropriation. It shouldn't make you happy; you should be feeling unsafe.

=======
*guffaw*......no.
Japanese don't buy into that 'cultural appropriation' bullsh*t because, mascot culture and tentacle porn nowithstanding, they are FAR more sane than the feminazi SJW as*wipes.

Posted by: Vlad the implaer, whittling away like mad at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (9Gcv4)

158 Oh, and you get fined 20 Australian dollars for not voting.
But, intentionally spoiling your ballot is legal, so you can do that if you want and avoid the fine.
Still, mandatory voting is messed up in a free country.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (ufFY8)

159 Night, JT

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (A3w0Q)

160 Would it remain on a rightward path and stick with a political coalition that promised economic stability, jobs and cuts to immigration or choose greater action on climate change and income inequality?

Yes, that sure is a head scratcher.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (soHCJ)

161 151 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)

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We'll see Horsedrawn Carriage: Journey To The Magic Castle before this trend is finished. The Mouse never leaves a buck on the table.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (4knXT)

162 150, Ian, the NYT is devastated because they thought the left winning in Australia would be a big boost to the Dems here as well as in the UK. Tides shifting and nonsense like that. Bwahahaha..

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:37 PM (fiC74)

163 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)

If this "Testicle Festival" is what I think it is, then I'm buying tickets to Dundas ASAP!

*licks lips*

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 18, 2019 10:37 PM (tVQUs)

164 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:34 PM (PUmDY)
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Mister Toad's Wild Ride should be made into an LSD-fueled road picture a la Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:38 PM (kQs4Y)

165 Isn't that Grammie from Beverly Hillbillies up top?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 18, 2019 10:38 PM (OX6sG)

166 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)
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Sometimes you feel like a nut...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:38 PM (kQs4Y)

167 144 Now when I turn 39 that may be an issue.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:30 PM (aA3+G)

That's still 10 years away. You can always sell and move into an active adult community.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (htgmn)

True, so true.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (aA3+G)

168
My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.

I wish I was able to know them all.

Posted by: dartist at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (K22Va)

169 "Gimme all yer dough!!!"

Posted by: Ma Baker at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (m45I2)

170 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)


Nuts.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (htgmn)

171 Mister Toad's Wild Ride should be made into an LSD-fueled road picture a la Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

The drugs took hold under the arch in Cinderella's Castle....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (soHCJ)

172 162
150, Ian, the NYT is devastated because they thought the left winning in
Australia would be a big boost to the Dems here as well as in the UK.
Tides shifting and nonsense like that. Bwahahaha..

Posted by: IC at May 18, 2019 10:37 PM (fiC74)

Oh yeah, definitely.
It pleases me that the lying liars in the media got it wrong again.
It's gonna be an early night Down Under, apparently, although its afternoon tomorrow there right now.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (ufFY8)

173 140 Dundas WI is celebrating Testicle Festival through tomorrow. Not far from Manitowoc. I haven't sampled the delicacies.
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:31 PM (sujqA)

Go and have yourself a ball!

Posted by: Insomniac at May 18, 2019 10:39 PM (NWiLs)

174 162 150, Ian, the NYT is devastated because they thought the left winning in Australia would be a big boost to the Dems here as well as in the UK. Tides shifting and nonsense like that. Bwahahaha.."

The best part is that the Left in Australia went All In on their version of a Green New Deal. The conservatives (called the Liberal Party in Australia) didn't make that a big deal in the election, the Left did that themselves.

And it turned out to be a total Own Goal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (V2Yro)

175 Jamey Johnson

In Color

https://youtu.be/EYGwxf1gCC4

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (xIKXj)

176 I don't know, Shep, but the strippers in Manitowoc for a competition were talking about going.

Posted by: lurking grandma at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (sujqA)

177 133
How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?





Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:29 PM (htgmn)


I always liked "Stronger Together", because it's the literal definition of Fascism. You can't make this stuff up.

Posted by: rickl at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (sdi6R)

178
That's still 10 years away. You can always sell and move into an active adult community.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:32 PM (htgmn)

True, so true.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Del Boca Vista

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

179 Oh, and you get fined 20 Australian dollars for not voting.
But, intentionally spoiling your ballot is legal, so you can do that if you want and avoid the fine.
Still, mandatory voting is messed up in a free country.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:36 PM (ufFY

I wonder how well one would do running solely on ending mandatory voting?

Posted by: Surfperch at May 18, 2019 10:41 PM (tVQUs)

180 True, so true.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Del Boca Vista
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

The Villages.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (htgmn)

181 156 140: two of a kind used to be a stop on the way to two rivers every weekend.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:35 PM (KP5rU)

That's pronounced T'rivers for all of you non-Sconnie folks.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (aA3+G)

182 The late night Chinese electric parade was awesome when I was a kid.i heard they don't do it anymore.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (PUmDY)

183

Cars of the Future (1948 )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ZS_EfoYpA


Listen for the word empennage at 1:20. Heh. A rugged empennage. I know women like that!

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:42 PM (//+WH)

184 been to dundas many times. never went to the testicle festival.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (KP5rU)

185 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

The youngest is headed your way later this summer. Her and my future son in law are considering moving to NC

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (aA3+G)

186 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Three three finalists were "I'm with her.", "Please, give the shoe back.", and "It's vodka in America."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:33 PM (soHCJ)


"Shart. Hic. Burrrrp" came in 4th.

Posted by: LASue at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (XROPS)

187 True, so true.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Del Boca Vista
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (CDGwz)

The Villages.
Posted by: ALH,
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Del Webb. I don't even know who he is/was, but I despise the SOB.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:43 PM (CDGwz)

188 I guess I'm with her polled better than It's my turn to run the camps.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 10:44 PM (H5knJ)

189 empennage

I had to look that one up.

It means Junk in the Trunk.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:44 PM (htgmn)

190 How dare you.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (PUmDY)

191 The youngest is headed your way later this summer. Her and my future son in law are considering moving to NC
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Whereabouts are they headed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (CDGwz)

192 The conservatives (called the Liberal Party in
Australia) didn't make that a big deal in the election, the Left did
that themselves.



And it turned out to be a total Own Goal.



Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:40 PM (V2Yro)


Yeah, the Liberals (i.e. Conservative) vs Labor (whack-jobs). And the "National" party is now aligned with the Liberals, and they are called the Liberal-National party (according to the BBC story I read).
I think the fact that the center part of their country has their time zone on the half-hour really screws them up ( or else they really don't like Perth, and want to be 90 minutes away from them).

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (ufFY8)

193 To be fair, "I'm with her" was better than 2008's "BILL, THE SHITTER'S FULL."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (soHCJ)

194 My ex FIL started farming his dad's farm when he was 12 and his big brother was 17, because their dad lost his mind. early 30's

so that first stanza of "In Color" hits me right between the eyes.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (xIKXj)

195 She's Got Empennage!

Posted by: Vincent Hannah at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (EfMCv)

196 Another useful word for the Horde is embonpoint, the fleshy salient points of a lady's figure.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (kQs4Y)

197 187: hammer, i don't think del was a stand up guy. nothing like his brother, jack. del was a grifter.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (KP5rU)

198 Whereabouts are they headed?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:45 PM (CDGwz)

Looking at Asheville and the Raleigh areas. That I know of.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (aA3+G)

199 I said grandpa what's this picture here
It's all black and white and it ain't too clear
Is that you there, he said yeah
I was eleven

Great tune booknlass

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (A3w0Q)

200
It means Junk in the Trunk.

Yep. But classy.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (//+WH)

201 Her 2020 bumpersticker will be Finally, I shall have my revenge. She's really well-balanced and sane.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (H5knJ)

202
Looking at Asheville and the Raleigh areas. That I know of.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Quite a contrast between those two.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)

203 Looking at Asheville and the Raleigh areas. That I know of.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:46 PM (aA3+G)

That area is really growing, a lot of people are moving there. The Biltmore is there.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:48 PM (htgmn)

204 thanks teej. I like it too

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:48 PM (xIKXj)

205 I like Publix fried chicken and wings, but everything else is way overpriced.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (PUmDY)

206 133 How many different slogans did Hilary test before coming up with "I'm with her"?

Posted by: ALH, Herself


A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

207
That area is really growing, a lot of people are moving there.
Posted by: ALH
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It is slowly, actually not so slowly, being destroyed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (xSo9G)

208 Like Steph Curry, Florida Man can dribble two balls at once

Posted by: Stumck at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (IpZ/y)

209 Moose "attack" seemed to be resolved when he formed his arms and stick into the profile of a moose with a huge set of antlers.

Posted by: MW at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (hNTtn)

210 Hooooorde.

Sup.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 10:51 PM (IYHxL)

211 Good evening all...

Posted by: Tentotwo at May 18, 2019 10:52 PM (yhf6w)

212 going to holden beach on saturday. we're flying into wilmington. driving through nc this time of year is gridlock. fuck that.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:52 PM (KP5rU)

213
Oh, that reminds me. Speaking of airplane tails...

Remember a couple years ago we discussed silly budget/low-cost airline names and how extra-awful it is when they crash? Like when Valujet crashes in the swamplands and the passengers are being eaten alive by alligators and tv shows the wreckage with the cartoon airplane logo?

Yeah, so this week an airline called WOW! went teets up. I figured it was for the best because eventually they'll have a crash and wreckage on TV will show the tail with WOW! on it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 10:52 PM (//+WH)

214 thathalfrican!

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:53 PM (KP5rU)

215 Never been to Asheville, I have heard it is beautiful, but even the libs I know who move there say it is very boring and expensive.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 10:53 PM (PUmDY)

216 Freddie Freeman just took Josh Hader deep in the 10th. Braves win 4-3.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (soHCJ)

217 "Woman Drives To Jail On Suspended License With Meth In Her Pants"

"I couldn't help it! I wath tho thcared I thit mythelf!

Posted by: MW at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (hNTtn)

218 Never been to Asheville, I have heard it is beautiful, but even the libs I know who move there say it is very boring and expensive.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie
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The locusts are sucking the lifeblood out of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (CDGwz)

219 And if it looks like we were scared to death
Like a couple of kids just trying to save each other
You should have seen it in color

It's when he gets to "... eyes so blue and just look at that smile..." that it punches me in the gut booknlass. Even just now thinking about it.

That was Becky.

Love each other fellow babies

Posted by: teej at May 18, 2019 10:54 PM (A3w0Q)

220 If you've ever been to Versailles, and I have, the Biltmore is a shack in comparison.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:55 PM (htgmn)

221
Quite a contrast between those two.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (CDGwz)


There young. In love. And don't know what they want. They are also checking out WA state.

I just smh.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 10:55 PM (aA3+G)

222 asheville is beautiful. in ten years, it will be totally fucked. commies ruin everything.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (KP5rU)

223 Picture Caption: Labor Party supporters watching news of the results at an election-night event in Melbourne.

Not quite as schadenfreude-y as the wailing nincompoops crying over Hilary, but still funny.
http://tinyurl.com/yxkap7lm

Warning: that link goes to the NYT story.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (ufFY8)

224 The Versailles left me underwhelmed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (kQs4Y)

225 Is there a way to use ampersands on this site?

Posted by: hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (m45I2)

226 What kind of work are they looking for, MisHum?

Young people are looking for their opportunity.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (htgmn)

227 Asheville is turning into Portland, NC. Hippies every damn where.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (soHCJ)

228 &&&&&&&&&

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (kQs4Y)

229 Crouching Tiger - Blazing Saddles is on. They are stuck at the tollbooth.

Posted by: Burger Chef at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (RuIsu)

230 151 What is the next Disney movie to be based on one of their rides? I am surprised Small World hasn't been done yet.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie


Earworm time.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (+lVUW)

231 Maybe they'll make it illegal to lie to a pollster.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 18, 2019 10:27 PM (aKsyK)

It's illegal to lie to the sacks of garbage at the FBI, so why not?

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (iG8X1)

232 chavez my dude! What's good?

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (IYHxL)

233 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)

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Wait. What was wrong with, "I want your vote to impose my hateful vindictive tyranny on a helpless citizenry while enriching myself beyond measure through unlimited opportunities for graft and influence-peddling at the expense of America's national security interests"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (4knXT)

234 168
My grandparents were tough; my great grandparents were even tougher.
I wish I was able to know them all."

The one great grandparent I knew well was Katie Pettis, an old scottswoman. I think she was born in the early 1880's. She lived out on a farm in Wisconsin her entire life, the last 30 years of it by herself. (husband died) she was my mother's mother's mother.

We stayed at her place a couple of times when I was 6 or 7. Old, old house, as old as she was. One time the tornadoes rolled overhead and the outhouse got knocked over. Another time it was lovely, and I woke up very early at dawn, and walked outside to see the sunrise - everyone else was still asleep. I was amazed, as I went out in front of the house, to see Granny walking out of a stand of woods about 100 yards away, headed back to the house. I met her and said "Granny, what are you doing out so early???" and she gave me a strange look with a half-smile and said "I'm not your granny, I killed her and left her in the woods, I'm a witch and I'm just wearing her skin." The she looked straight at me and laughed and went on into the house.

that scared the shit out of me like nothing ever has, before or since. I was so terrified I couldn't say anything at all to anyone, and she knew it, because she would look at me and grin. Months later, when we were back home, I finally got up the nerve to tell my mother about it, and all she said was "ha! Well that's granny, she thinks its funny to say stuff like that. And she's gotten kinda strange now she's got old and lives by herself."

Damn, granny. You sure knew how to mess with kids minds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (V2Yro)

235 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (kQs4Y)

What is your favorite vacation destination? We like the beach.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (htgmn)

236 I'd smoke that woman's pants meth. All of it.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (FiFer)

237 232; everything my friend. how are things for you?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (KP5rU)

238 225 Is there a way to use ampersands on this site?
Posted by: hobart Harumphey at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (m45I2)

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Not for the lower castes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (4knXT)

239 It means Junk in the Trunk.

Yep. But classy.


I prefer "callipygian" for that. That has ancient Roman marble statuary levels of class.

Posted by: mikeski at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (P1f+c)

240 while I was working for a national non-profit, they asked me to work in SC, and I lived in Spartanburg for a little while.

the place where SC, NC, and TN meet is some of the prettiest forested land I've ever seen.

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (xIKXj)

241 asheville is beautiful. in ten years, it will be totally fucked. commies ruin everything.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
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The ten years is already up.

When a town begins a needle exchange program, you can pretty much figure it's done. Oh, and the Sheriff a couple of weeks ago announced non-cooperation with ICE.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (xSo9G)

242 201 Her 2020 bumpersticker will be Finally, I shall have my revenge. She's really well-balanced and sane.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 18, 2019 10:47 PM (H5knJ)

She said the same thing she'd been saying for weeks.

"Burn them all."

(Back when that show was still great.)

Posted by: trev006 at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (iG8X1)

243 you know why that story came to mind? Because that baker lady up top with the shooter reminds me a whole lot of how ol' granny looked. She wasn't very big, but she always had this look that let everyone know, you just do not jack with her.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 11:00 PM (V2Yro)

244 OUTSTANDING!!!!

According to leaks, Trump is asking for paperwork to Pardon SEAL Chief Gallagher, on Memorial Day, along with other Military folks charged with 'War crimes'.

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 11:00 PM (NgKpN)

245 222 asheville is beautiful. in ten years, it will be totally fucked. commies ruin everything.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:56 PM (KP5rU)


We were considering Asheville before it was featured as the next great place to go.

Liberals take that as a challenge: "A NEW place to fuck up. Let's go!"

So we crossed it off the list.

We also cross off the list any place featured in Money magazine as a great place to live. Because it won't be for long.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:00 PM (if8r4)

246 Wait. What was wrong with, "I want your vote to
impose my hateful vindictive tyranny on a helpless citizenry while
enriching myself beyond measure through unlimited opportunities for
graft and influence-peddling at the expense of America's national
security interests"?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (4knXT)


(channeling Blazing Saddles): Because we like rape.


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (ufFY8)

247 155 She's with me.
Posted by: Bollard


I enjoy watching that youtube. She didn't just pass out. She was stiff, like a board. They had her leaned against the bollard like a board.

Then there was a video of her at Biden's childhood home. As she walked around the kitchen she kept her hands on the kitchen table and chairs. When she walked on a flat surface she held a rail or Biden's hand. The woman could walk unaided.

I still want to know what her medical problem was.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (+lVUW)

248 Sitting here at the emergency vet with the new pup. Our dogs always get sick on the weekends.

Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (fMHxR)

249 wow, Tom, that's a heckuva good anecdote.

you could lift that right off the woman up top

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (xIKXj)

250 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (KP5rU)

I know I posted on the first anniversary of my moms death. Mother's Day was hard because it was so close in time, my youngest is a ball of fury which will, with proper aiming, help him growing up but right now? He's a terror due to that trait and teething. God help me.
The wife and I are doing alright.
You and yours my guy?

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (IYHxL)

251 #224 when I was about 5 years old I pissed on the courtyard of Versailles.

As I got older I liked it even more.

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (FiFer)

252 When a town begins a needle exchange program, you can pretty much figure it's done. Oh, and the Sheriff a couple of weeks ago announced non-cooperation with ICE.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 18, 2019 10:59 PM (xSo9G)

That's terrible. It must break your heart.

Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 11:02 PM (htgmn)

253 I took enough art history classes to cultivate a contempt for postmodern art. Worse was the bullshit word-salad academic writing about Jeff Coons et al. I said, in one of my longer papers, that their English teacher should hang themselves.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 18, 2019 11:03 PM (rnAwa)

254 MH, holy shit. I live in L5P/Inman Park in Atlanta, and a measure like that has never been advanced.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:03 PM (PUmDY)

255 Hey everybody.

Saturday night's all right for frying
get a little bacon in...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:03 PM (miE9U)

256 wife and i thought about moving to nc. no more, that state is fucked, now. fucking yankees.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (KP5rU)

257 223 Picture Caption: Labor Party supporters watching news of the results at an election-night event in Melbourne.

Not quite as schadenfreude-y as the wailing nincompoops crying over Hilary, but still funny.

It's glorious! More please . . .

Posted by: Marybeth at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (MEgUr)

258 TJM and everyone, if you're out there, sorry I missed the movie thread. I was actually trying to get my blu-ray system set up in the living room again (long story) and most of the cords weren't cooperative.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (miE9U)

259 226 What kind of work are they looking for, MisHum?

Young people are looking for their opportunity.
Posted by: ALH, Herself at May 18, 2019 10:57 PM (htgmn)

She's an OT, he's in sales.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (aA3+G)

260 Hold the pickle? Extra lettuce!?
Special orders?? Don't upset us!!!

Posted by: SJWs and Snowflakes at Burger King at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (miE9U)

261 That's great teej. I'm not familiar with Farmer equipment, but I'll look it up. So you play venues that big that you have to mike all your drums? Also awesome.

We mike everything at the club, but it's pretty big. 700 or so max cap. I forgot how many thousands of watts the PA system is, but it's a bunch of them. With subwoofers, which they hardly ever put my bass through because everybody's usually eating when we play. They do crank 'em up for the All Star Band, tho'. As they should.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:05 PM (HaL55)

262 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (KP5rU)

Well shit, Prager has been proven right again, the left ruins everything.
What are you doing to pass the time these days? Drinking doesn't count!

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:05 PM (IYHxL)

263 that scared the shit out of me like nothing ever has, before or since. I was so terrified I couldn't say anything at all to anyone, and she knew it, because she would look at me and grin. Months later, when we were back home, I finally got up the nerve to tell my mother about it, and all she said was "ha! Well that's granny, she thinks its funny to say stuff like that. And she's gotten kinda strange now she's got old and lives by herself."

Damn, granny. You sure knew how to mess with kids minds.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 18, 2019 10:58 PM (V2Yro)

Who says she was lying?

MU HA HA

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 11:05 PM (NgKpN)

264 and most of the cords weren't cooperative.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:04 PM (miE9U)

Are they ever?

I think it's just an excuse for Big Pharma to sell more BP meds.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (aA3+G)

265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?

Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)

266 thathalfrican, I like Prager but he also frustrates the crap out of me.

He's always wringing his hands about how crazy, bad, wrong and evil the left is, but as far as I can recall, never has any answers or suggests any pushback.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (miE9U)

267 MisHum, you are 100% correct.
[Pops three dozen more Prozac caplets] :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:07 PM (miE9U)

268 262; being retired is a full time gig. never run out of shit that needs doing. hardly have time for drinking anymore.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:07 PM (KP5rU)

269 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (miE9U)

F'real? Prager has answers; vote Republican as - in his words - "any Republican is virtually better than any Democrat"
Don't forget his Bible commentary

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (IYHxL)

270 248 Sitting here at the emergency vet with the new pup. Our dogs always get sick on the weekends.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (fMHxR)


Hey A.G. hope everything works out for the new pup.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (aA3+G)

271 thathalfrican, okay, besides that :-)

Trump has proven, it's gonna take a lot more than just voting Repub to get us outta the shit.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (miE9U)

272 Saturday night joke was hilarious.

My male Icelandic Sheepdog's name is Moose, short for Moosehunter Thorsdersen.

I used to live near Lakewood, Oh, the wife donated our Cleveland house to a woman's shelter, I'd guess they made more off of that than that drink.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (Rz2Nc)

273 265 #85 how does a teacher's union hack arrive at the conclusion that abortions help her profession?
Posted by: torabora at May 18, 2019 11:06 PM (FiFer)

Simple, she read her Margaret Sanger, who was a Eugenicist.

Posted by: Don Q at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (NgKpN)

274 Evasive, I'm in Lakewood CA. :-)
Admittedly there's a lot of Lakewoods. I believe Steve Miller is from a neighborhood called Lakewood in TX.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (miE9U)

275 Chick no pic at chick fil a.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (PUmDY)

276 115 On a scale of one to Mazie Hirono discussing quantum physics, how stupid is this?

Calvin Klein is apologizing after the fashion label came under fire for a video campaign showing model Bella Hadid kissing female robot Lil Miquela.
The 30-second ad drew backlash since Hadid identifies as heterosexual, with critics commenting, "There are plenty of real LGBTQ Models that could have been used."
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 18, 2019 10:26 PM (soHCJ)


I trust the scale is logarithmic.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (if8r4)

277 Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:07 PM (KP5rU)

Then you must be in the best shape of your life with almost no drinking!
Gimmie some insight to retirement; granted I'm 29 - no seriously, I'm closer to 29 than to everyone else who says it - give me some advice to retirement. Every successful guy has said never to retire.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (IYHxL)

278 Colter Wall
Sleeping on the Blacktop

https://youtu.be/qSYkikkitS0

Posted by: booknlass at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (xIKXj)

279 248 Sitting here at the emergency vet with the new pup. Our dogs always get sick on the weekends.
Posted by: Average Guy at May 18, 2019 11:01 PM (fMHxR)

Aw, what's the matter with your pup?

Posted by: Jordan61, PNW MoMe Survivor & Awesome Mug Winner! at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (F2aXJ)

280 "HRH! Because America Depends on Depends"

Posted by: mnw at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (Cssks)

281 Weird thing:

I passed by my local Chick-Fil-A today, a Saturday. It was closed! Every other time I've passed by there, they've always been packed (except for Sundays of course).

Maybe my local CFA is run by a nice Jewish person? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:10 PM (miE9U)

282 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:08 PM (miE9U)
Totally agree with that assessment and I think Prager would too. We need more Trumps.

Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019 11:11 PM (IYHxL)

283 Evasive, I'm in Lakewood CA. :-)
Admittedly there's a lot of Lakewoods. I believe Steve Miller is from a neighborhood called Lakewood in TX.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:09 PM (miE9U)

Nice, I'm certain there are many Lakewoods. The story linked specifically states Lakewood, OH.

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at May 18, 2019 11:11 PM (Rz2Nc)

284 so a betting house called SportsBet paid out $1.3 million days before the election to punters (weird English/Aussie term) who bet on the lefties in Australia. That means the guys who bet on the loser got paid off as if they had won. The same thing happened with some Irish (as I recall) betting house during the 2016 presidential election. The Irish blokes, as a stunt, paid of those who bet oh Hillary days before the election.

Now let me ask you, how is this even possible or legal? Sure, they can do what they want but who pays off a bet before the contest occurs? Would any American casino or sportsbook pay off a bet as a winner just because someone made a bet? Would any human pay of a sports bet before the match was played? Yeah, they screwed up, but there is something else to this. This is not normal human behavior. Just off the cuff it seems like a payoff to the left, a heads you win tails we lose type of thing.

Someone on their twitter feed mentioned that this could help the conserves because if someone bet on the left and got paid off, they could now change their mind in good conscious or just for fun and vote in what Aussies consider to be conservative. Yeah, it is a stretch but there is a point there. Either way, the world is not getting smarter with social media it seems. No social media or net, no way this happens. They wouldn't even be able to contact the punters before the election. Just weird, these days.

Posted by: Quint at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (n13/j)

285 thathalfrican, yup.

I wish it were as easy as just voting Repub. That might have been the case 20-30 years ago. But it's a CULTURE war, not just a political war.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (miE9U)

286
The dreaded second season of Buck Rogers is on.

Posted by: Soothsayer, A Journailst and a Climate Expert at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (//+WH)

287
Kyoto Tachibana marching band in their second parade since the start of
school in April. They've already integrated tbe freshmen. Damn, these
kids work hard!


That's a great band. Not many guys in it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy says #PurgeProgressivismBAMN at May 18, 2019 11:12 PM (HaL55)

288 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)


Uh ... isn't that the job of the candidate?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (if8r4)

289 my advice for retirement is keep yourself busy. we gutted our house last year. glad that's done. i never run out of shit that needs to be done.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (KP5rU)

290 A while back I read part of that book about the campaign, "Shattered". There was a part where both Hillary and Bill were yelling at campaign staff because the staff couldn't come up with her "messaging".
Posted by: nerdygirl at May 18, 2019 10:50 PM (+lVUW)


"Drink up!"

"Vote for me, you useless assholes!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (if8r4)

291 As I understand it there are Lakewoods in NJ, NY, CO, TX and OH as well as CA. Probably others as well.

And then there's Las Vegas in New Mexico. Anyone ever been to it?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 18, 2019 11:13 PM (miE9U)

292 Posted by: thathalfrican - last night in Beverly Hills at May 18, 2019

My Mom passed away 15 years ago on Monday. I still miss her. But, the pain isn't as bad as it once was. Hang in there.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 18, 2019 11:14 PM (aA3+G)