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Sunday Overnight Open Thread (11/19/17)

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Quotes of The Day

Quote I

“I believe in a lot of things but the first tenet of my politics is to hold up the people who have held me up, who have filled my world with love.” Lena Dunham.

Quote II

“It is a privilege that we allow individuals to hold onto something that causes harm and death,” “It is a privilege to have a car license, it is a privilege to have a gun license.” Representative Marjorie Decker

Quote III

If you truly wanna boycott the NFL and you wanna boycott ESPN, the notion that some guy sitting out there, or gal, and they decide, 'you know what, I'm gonna cut my entire cable package because ESPN gave an award on a made-up show in July because there's no sports, to a woman who used to be a man, so I'm now not gonna have any cable TV at all and I'm gonna sit around at night and read books by candlelight like olden times because of that,' that's not happening. And if you did that, then you're so dumb that I can't even pray for you because you're beyond hope. If that was your reaction to this, was to deny yourself the ability to watch television, I mean that just hasn't happened and didn't happen, so I boycott them. Scott Van Pelt

Quote IV

“Listen, I’ve honored you by allowing you to spout off here and what you said was not right. That’s all I’m saying. I come from the lower-middle class originally. We didn’t have anything, so don’t spew that stuff on me. I get a little tired of that crap. And let me just say something — if we worked together, we could pull this country out of every mess it’s in, and we could do a lot of the things that you’re talking about, too, and I think I’ve got a reputation of having worked together with Democrats,” Sen. Orin Hatch (R-UT)

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She has been away for a while. Shoe0nHead, she's back with a look at feminism.

*****

Can you drink a 6-pack in 40 seconds or less? It can be done. Why not try it with one of your nephews on Thursday? Your ONT science lesson for the evening.

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Apple and their iPhone are in the news again. And it's not their newest model. TX LEO serve warrants on Apple.

Authorities in Texas served Apple with a search warrant in order to gain access to the Sutherland Springs church shooter's cellphone files.

Texas Ranger Kevin Wright obtained the warrant last week, according to San Antonio Express-News.

Investigators are hoping to gain access to gunman Devin Patrick Kelley's digital photos, messages, calls, videos, social media passwords, address book and data since January 2016. Authorities also want to know what files Kelley stored in his iCloud account.

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Jerry Jones must prevail against Roger Goodell.

Roger Goodell inexplicably received a nod of approval from all 32 owners of NFL teams back in May. Those owners, whether buoyed by ratings or the decline in quarterback play or forcing good citizens such as myself into supporting the Patriots in the Super Bowl, said, “Yes, we’re on the right track here,” and voted to extend his contract.

Now one of those owners is backtracking. Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones has launched a salvo against the commissioner. Jones is reportedly demanding the contract extension be sent back to the Compensation Committee for “possible adjustment.” Failing that, there may be a lawsuit on the horizon. As reported by Peter King at Sports Illustrated, Goodell’s previous contract contained too much guaranteed compensation. The new contract attempts to address that. Jones’ concern is that the remedies are too nebulous.

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h/t Chateau Heartiste.


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A really cold "Cold Case File". The murder of Rodney Marks.

No one at the Amundsen-Scott station believed that the results of the autopsy would be particularly shocking. The National Science Foundation, which governs all U.S.-based research at the station, issued a statement announcing that Marks had died of natural causes. So when the results came back that Marks had been poisoned with methanol, panic arose.

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The ONT Musical Interlude


November 19, 1964, The Supremes became the first all girl group to have a UK No.1 single when 'Baby Love' went to the top of the charts. Written and produced by Motown's main production team Holland–Dozier–Holland, it was also the second of five Supremes songs in a row to go to No.1 in the United States. via thisdayinmusic.com

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Travel in your plans? The world's most dangerous countries. Be careful on your travels.

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9th grade Latin, pass or fail? Glad I just got the "F".

Identified only as Yokasta M, the 40-year-old threatened to fail the pupils if they refused to sleep with her. She taught at a school in Medellin, Colombia, according to Canal 4 which said reported that she was caught when one of her victims spoke to his parents after his father saw pictures of her on his phone.


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The check isn't in the mail and oh by the way, The SWAT Team is on their way. Genius Award Winners.

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High school seniors demonstrate that there is some hope for young people. Tonight's First Feel Good Story of The Day.

The marvel of modern medicine. Tonight's Second Feel Good Story of The Day.


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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by The Mystery of Life.

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Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 10:07 PM




Comments

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Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:04 PM (gdzWc)

2 Evening, Horde

Posted by: fluffy at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (cHbmY)

3 I see the Italicans have struck again...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (e9G8E)

4
What's this about the Feds lowering the official Blood Pressure parameters?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (gdzWc)

5 barns and flags, feels like home

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (9mZIr)

6 Good Evening Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 19, 2017 10:06 PM (tr2D7)

7 Here I is!

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 10:06 PM (MYss1)

8 Thirst!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at November 19, 2017 10:06 PM (e9G8E)

9 Moe! Larry! It bit me!

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (zCyNd)

10
From what I'm hearing, and this might not be accurate because I'm half senile, the limit for "high" blood pressure will be lowered to 130 from 140.

YES, this does affect You! In many ways it affects you.


Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (gdzWc)

11 Identified only as Yokasta M, the 40-year-old threatened to fail the pupils if they refused to sleep with her.

So she'd give them an F if they didnt give her the D...

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (NWiLs)

12 Hey Scott Van Pelt,

To quote the great philosopher Jim Lahey: "Are you really this fucking stupid?"

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (GsAUU)

13 hey everyone.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (smD62)

14 If I gripe, ONT will come.

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (WDy4l)

15 I saw the Barrel leering lovingly at MisHum from across the room, but then the Barrel quietly left through the back door, and I'm left wondering if was misbegotten love, or just a strange dream.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (I/iGu)

16 ShoeOneHead is back?

[clicks]

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:08 PM (GsAUU)

17 Orrin Hatch. What a tool.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:08 PM (+0jcH)

18 It is a privilege that we allow individuals to hold onto something that causes harm and death

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Lena Dunham, source of Quote I at November 19, 2017 10:08 PM (EzdLW)

19
I saw the Barrel leering lovingly at MisHum from across the room, but then the Barrel quietly left through the back door, and I'm left wondering if was misbegotten love, or just a strange dream.

Uh, no, I saved his ass.


I saved all y'all's asses.

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:08 PM (gdzWc)

20 "I believe in a lot of things but the first tenet of my politics is to hold up the people who have held me up, who have filled my world with love. And to hold up my adolescent sister, but like you hold up a sock puppet: with my arm elbow-deep in her *****"
- Lena Dunham

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 10:09 PM (y87Qq)

21 Private Holstein! Front and center!

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2017 10:09 PM (zLDYs)

22 Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (I/iGu)

A barrel? Good man I have no idea of what you speak

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:10 PM (3/sUh)

23 @12: "To quote the great philosopher Jim Lahey: 'Are you really this fucking stupid?'"

One of those rare moments where the mask slips and the wearer doesn't even notice.

"So dumb that I can't even pray for you because you're beyond hope" is Hillary's "irredeemable" all over again.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:11 PM (I/iGu)

24 Greenland clearly needs common sense harpoon control.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:11 PM (zCyNd)

25
What's this about the Feds lowering the official Blood Pressure parameters?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter


Not enough people were taking blood pressure medicine.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:11 PM (IqV8l)

26 Transcow with udder implants?

Posted by: frequed at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (UdKB7)

27 the Rhapsody in Blue video I started last thread is still playing, but winding up.

I'm going to start if over again when it stops! it's amazing!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (9mZIr)

28 Whew, made it in the top 100.

Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (lJW6d)

29 Thanks for the ONT.

Russia or Mexico do not sound like great places to visit by the map.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (ycWCI)

30
Not enough people were taking blood pressure medicine.

Big Statin was my first impression, too!

Posted by: Half Senile Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (gdzWc)

31 Will you look at the teats on that fellow.

Must have smoked a lot of dope.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (MYss1)

32
Scott Van Pelt

Does he have a sister named Lucy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:13 PM (IqV8l)

33 First rule of Seal Clubbing Club is, don't talk about Seal Clubbing Club.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:13 PM (+0jcH)

34 Misanthropic Humanitarian

I really like the picture of the barn with the flag. Thanks.

And we will not speak about cow-man. He has milked our tolerance long enough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:13 PM (hyuyC)

35 A well armed society of people dressed in heifer costumes is a polite society of people dressed in heifer costumes.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:13 PM (zCyNd)

36 Scott Van Pelt is a self-important little shit, isn't he?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:14 PM (oVJmc)

37 Male Morons:

Raise your hand if you seriously give a shit about women with makeup vs. without.



















Ye gods.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:14 PM (GsAUU)

38 @19: "Uh, no, I saved his ass. I saved all y'all's asses."

If I hadn't reloaded the front page, and noticed lower posts had lost their italics upon second look, then I might actually believe you.

*taps his nose*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:14 PM (I/iGu)

39 A barrel? Good man I have no idea of what you speak

It has to do with the Milwaukee Brewers: http://tinyurl.com/jqsbn3t

(link goes to the Milwaukee Symphony Orchestra, playing the Brewers' theme)

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (3C9q2)

40 Let me get this straight:

1. Cutting your cable means you are cutting your electricity
2. Reading books at night instead of watching sports is dumb

Did I get that right?

*returns reading dumb books*

Posted by: Ripley at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (NbRJx)

41 Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?

Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (lJW6d)

42 Scott Van Pelt doesn't realize that he (and ESPN) are an expendable commodity.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (01Fis)

43 Any one watching the national geographic channel "Hell on Earth; The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS"? Just caught enough of it to be informed that it is all our fault, due to Abu grab and our deliberate murder of innocent civilians in Iraq, and Hiroshima, and Nagasaki etc, etc, etc.. My god my blood is still boiling

Posted by: Javems at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (yOqwj)

44 And we will not speak about cow-man. He has milked our tolerance long enough.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:13 PM (hyuyC)

Because he is udderly ridiculous.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (VDQek)

45 Lorem Ipsum.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (Tyii7)

46 South Africa is green for tourists? I don't think so.

Plus I hear that Mr Mugabe was asked to resign as leader of the ruling party. Such a shame.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (EZebt)

47 Scott Van Pelt looks like a schlong in a suit.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (oVJmc)

48 41
Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?

Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (lJW6d)


It's in my CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY!!!!

Posted by: Sandra Fluck at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (zCyNd)

49 I'm being honest when I say that I am not entirely sure of the point Mr. Van Pelt is trying to make.

But he does come off as a petulant turd.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (oAY8z)

50 Re dangerous, Honduras and southern Belize have INSANE murder rates. And I can make some damned good guesses about the safety of Iran and Argentina and (LOL) Pakistan as well.

Brazil depends on where you go. Southern Brazil is safe. The rest of it not so much.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (6FqZa)

51 41 Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?
Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (lJW6d)

Less than $20?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (ycWCI)

52 25
What's this about the Feds lowering the official Blood Pressure parameters?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter

Not enough people were taking blood pressure medicine.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:11 PM (IqV8l


I've become so cynical that I believe you are right.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at November 19, 2017 10:17 PM (ZapPq)

53 27 the Rhapsody in Blue video I started last thread is still playing, but winding up.

I'm going to start if over again when it stops! it's amazing!
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (9mZIr)

--Thank you.

Playing "S'Wonderful" again, despite no hope of getting lucky tonight.

But that Live in Paris album is chock-a-block with baby-making material.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:17 PM (GsAUU)

54 Didn't intend to conflate South Africa with Zimbabwe. Oops.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 10:17 PM (EZebt)

55 Transcow with udder implants?
Posted by: frequed at November 19, 2017 10:12 PM (UdKB7)


Cattle-lyn Jenner as Yosemite Sasquatch in How The Swap Meet Was Won

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 10:17 PM (EzdLW)

56 Another sweet ONT - Thanks, MisHum!

Regarding that Genius Award piece, and I know I'm quibbling here, but 'agent' or 'claims rep' (adjuster)?

Dunning-Krueger FTW!

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:18 PM (vUcdz)

57 41 Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?
Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (lJW6d)

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Sally Field can help 15 hungry children a day on $19, and score a margherita pizza for herself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:18 PM (+0jcH)

58 South Africa is green for tourists? I don't think so.

Plus I hear that Mr Mugabe was asked to resign as leader of the ruling party. Such a shame.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (EZebt)


that's the same thing that jumped out at me as well

may be some credibility issues

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 19, 2017 10:18 PM (oAY8z)

59 Sally Struthers?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:19 PM (IqV8l)

60 I'm listening too, booknlass.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 10:19 PM (4ZKcy)

61 And we will not speak about cow-man. He has milked our tolerance long enough.

I suggest extraditing him to the Folsom Street Fair. He'd fit right in.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 19, 2017 10:19 PM (3C9q2)

62 I'll take a little bit of vomit in the back of my mouth on each quote Alex, for 1000.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 19, 2017 10:19 PM (3BFzK)

63 My "Rhapsody in Blue" just finished. Bravo, Bravo!

NY Philharmonic & Leonard Bernstein on piano. What a performance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:19 PM (hyuyC)

64 Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?
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I'd ask $19.95 - no ups, no extras.

Posted by: Earl Scheib at November 19, 2017 10:19 PM (tr2D7)

65 56 Another sweet ONT - Thanks, MisHum!

Regarding that Genius Award piece, and I know I'm quibbling here, but 'agent' or 'claims rep' (adjuster)?

Dunning-Krueger FTW!
Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:18 PM (vUcdz)

My guess and guess only is an adjuster was there and of course the ignorant article author couldn't spend the time to learn the difference.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:20 PM (3/sUh)

66 I consider all of Africa a high risk shit hole

Posted by: NCKate at November 19, 2017 10:20 PM (Jj68o)

67 Sally Struthers?

Boy, that chick could pack away the grub.

Posted by: Meathead at November 19, 2017 10:20 PM (Tyii7)

68 Sally struthers. My bad.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:20 PM (+0jcH)

69 I am under the impression that this particular map is safety for tourists health-wise, not safety wise.

If you go to the link, there is an entirely different map which shows nations from a safety perspective. Which....that particular map has Cuba, the US, and Canada all at the same level, so...not sure it's very accurate.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 10:21 PM (smD62)

70 Oh, and JihadWatch reported that the imams in Saudi are telling Hamas to lay off The Jew Thing.

That is one high flying, glorious pig in the air, that you seeing.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:21 PM (6FqZa)

71 Saw Justice League. Was fun. Much abuse of Ben Affleck. Go see.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (0BFUD)

72 You gotta watch out for all the silenced 50 caliber muzzle loaders in the dangerous USA!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (IqV8l)

73 65 MisHum

Thus my D-K ref.

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (vUcdz)

74 I'm a douche over-paid golf reporter who kneels before The Big Rat (PBUH) seven times a day.

Posted by: Scott Van Pelt at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (GsAUU)

75 @42: "Scott Van Pelt doesn't realize that he (and ESPN) are an expendable commodity."

Oh, they realize it, but they're putting on a brave face.

ESPN has a new SportsCenter on Snapchat show. Yes, really. I guess they're trying to appeal to kids who don't know what television is.

Anyways, a few days ago, they used printouts of two football players on sticks to "reenact" the MNF football game.

Why? Despite paying TWO BILLION DOLLAR PER YEAR, ESPN's NFL contract does not grant them rights to stream video clips online.

If you watch Pardon the Interruption or Around the Horn re-broadcasts in their phone app, then you'll notice the same thing. Video clips during those shows are replaced with still photo slideshows.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (I/iGu)

76 I had to look up Scott Van Pelt because I didn't know who he was.
Well, no wonder he's so insulting toward people who cut the cord to cable, ESPN, NFL It might eventually hurt his paycheck.

He should marry that nitwit Lena Dunham. Hell, as long as he "holds her up and fills her world with love", she won't even care if he's a sexual predator.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (+lVUW)

77 BTW, I used to wait on Sally Field while working as a waiter in college. She was probably on my mind because of that.

Plus, alcohol.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (+0jcH)

78 If the blm and the thugs in the nfl think the USA is so bad, why not head on over to Africa and do things up right over there?

Asking for a friend that would never move to a black run country.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 19, 2017 10:23 PM (3BFzK)

79 70 Oh, and JihadWatch reported that the imams in Saudi are telling Hamas to lay off The Jew Thing.

That is one high flying, glorious pig in the air, that you seeing.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:21 PM (6FqZa)

*Checks temperature in Hell*

Stalin's still smoking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:23 PM (ycWCI)

80 If you cut your entire cable package it's not like you'd have to sit around reading books by candlelight. For one thing, we're well into the era of electricity. Candles aren't even a primary backup for most of us. That's for when the generator and batteries run out. I don't watch cable at all, and even if I stopped reading books, there would be more entertainment opportunities than I could use in a lifetime, many deliverable though the internet. I don't have to be entertained by people who hate me. There is no sport, game, show, or book that I like so much that it can't be replaced by something else.

Posted by: DaveM at November 19, 2017 10:23 PM (FNtbC)

81 Twenty dollars it too damn high.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 10:23 PM (kvb15)

82 The $19 per month thing just smacks of them all hiring the same fundraising outfit. It just doesn't pass the smell test.

Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:23 PM (lJW6d)

83 You gotta watch out for all the silenced 50 caliber muzzle loaders in the dangerous USA!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (IqV8l)

It's the smoke that kills.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 10:24 PM (VDQek)

84 Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:22 PM (vUcdz)

I am a Dork at times.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:24 PM (3/sUh)

85
BTW, I used to wait on Sally Field while working as a waiter in college. She was probably on my mind because of that.

You like her. You really like her.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:25 PM (IqV8l)

86 Regarding Representative Marjorie Decker, shouldn't a person in congress be marginally familiar with The Bill of Rights?

I wonder if she also thinks that Freedom of Speech is a privilege.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 10:25 PM (+lVUW)

87 Infidel, NaCly, wasn't Bernstein incredible!? Bravo is right!!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:25 PM (9mZIr)

88 Yokasta M is not helping with the stereotype of bug fuck crazy ass Latina.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:25 PM (01Fis)

89 Been watching Punisher on Netflix.

The good -

They briefly mock hipsters and manbuns


The bad -

Stereotypical pro-2nd Amendment Christian redneck vet

Very mentally troubled white vet who built a foxhole in his Dad's backyard to sleep in and accidentally took a shot at his Dad (missed, fortunately), but apparently isn't doing anything for his mental health aside from attending a Vets group meeting (that he says isn't helping). Oh, and he's being influenced by the redneck (who probably doesn't realize just how close the guy is to flipping out).

Female Iranian-American Homeland Security agent seeking to uncover criminal secrets being kept by her white male superiors (I don't know if it's been stated whether she was born in the US or Iran, but she grew up speaking Farsi as well as English).

A PMC that hasn't been shown to be evil yet. But there was a hint in the last episode I watched, which pretty much guarantees that it is because Hollywood always makes PMCs evil.

Less violence and a lower body count than either Daredevil series at the same point. Seriously, WTH? Punisher should *never* have a lower body count than Daredevil.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (cSguU)

90 I am a Dork at times.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:24 PM (3/sUh)

No, you're cool. Way cool!

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (MYss1)

91 @71

Some friends of mine whose opinions are usually pretty similar to mine said it's a mess.

I'll probably skip it.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (smD62)

92 I had to look up Scott Van Pelt because I didn't know who he was.

He learned how to treat his customer base from his sister, Lucy.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (Sv2/X)

93 I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and say Representative Decker is a democrat?

Posted by: Bill R. at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (IuYIh)

94 booknlass

Absolutely. I had only seen it in the movie American In Paris. Which was pretty good. This was great. And how he played the piano! Mad Skills.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (hyuyC)

95 I'm being honest when I say that I am not entirely sure of the point Mr. Van Pelt is trying to make.

By cutting your cable and depriving his employer and himself of your money, and probably putting him on the street to forage for uneaten week-old croissants, you're only hurting yourself.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:27 PM (oVJmc)

96 Trump wants to really give a butt fuvking to Disney, he uses his phone and pen to force alacarte cable.


Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 19, 2017 10:27 PM (3BFzK)

97 92 I had to look up Scott Van Pelt because I didn't know who he was.

He learned how to treat his customer base from his sister, Lucy.
Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (Sv2/X)

--He demands a blanket on the set as well.

Posted by: Scott Van Pelt at November 19, 2017 10:27 PM (GsAUU)

98 51 41 Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?
Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (lJW6d)

Less than $20?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (ycWCI)


If you ask for $20/month, almost anybody can do the math in their head and say "hmm, that's $240 a year; that's a lot of money." But the yearly total for $19/month takes a few seconds of actual thinking to compute so a lot of folks won't.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 19, 2017 10:27 PM (7oUUT)

99 It was awesome. The ending is brilliant.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 10:27 PM (4ZKcy)

100 @40

Also, he's apparently never heard of this new-fangled thing we have now called "The Internet", which offers a variety of streaming services (including some that are free).

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:28 PM (cSguU)

101 Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (MYss1)

Blushes profusely here at laptop.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:28 PM (3/sUh)

102 Have a serene night everyone.

May you all be blessed with good things, like grammie winger after her third egg nog, made strong by her husband.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:28 PM (hyuyC)

103 Yokasta M. sez, You can't always decline. Sometimes you have to conjugate.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 10:29 PM (H5rtT)

104 What is the back story for CowMan? Looks like he's at a flea Market.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 10:30 PM (MYss1)

105 Looks like a real rootin' tootin' cowboy there.

Posted by: Die Welt von Wayne at November 19, 2017 10:30 PM (oPNmq)

106 Yokasta's parents literally named their kid after Oedipus' mom.

Like I was saying about LaVar Ball earlier: when you name your child, you doom it - in the Tolkien sense of "doom". The kid has a fate.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:30 PM (6FqZa)

107 Brief Baby Sister Birthday Update

Joyce and her Florida and Minnesota friends had a rol Caking good time yesterday: mani-pedi's, fun lunch out, even a girls' sleepover!

So, so blessed.

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:30 PM (vUcdz)

108 Yeah Scott Van Pelt's despising people who read books instead of watching tv isn't exactly flattering to his intellect, is it?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 10:31 PM (+lVUW)

109 Night, NaCly Dog.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:31 PM (ycWCI)

110 Mystery of Life? More like misery of life.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:31 PM (+0jcH)

111 I got rid of my cable almost two years ago. It wasn't because of ESPN, but that WAS a happy coincidence.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 19, 2017 10:31 PM (IuYIh)

112 Tis the first night of a fire at casa Jukin. As always for a left coaster, I'll be late for the Moron Report but appreciate all of the work of JJ and the commenters...that means you Vic and all others.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (3BFzK)

113 I actually watch MORE TV since I cut cable.

Why? Because the programming is better.

I would leave the TV off when I had cable because I didn't want to watch any of it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (oVJmc)

114 107 moi

"rol Caking"??????

Oy.

Rollicking.

/sheesh

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (vUcdz)

115 There appears to be a difference of opinion across the internet as to whether or not David Cassidy has passed away.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (AZD0r)

116 78 If the blm and the thugs in the nfl think the USA is so bad, why not head on over to Africa and do things up right over there?

Asking for a friend that would never move to a black run country.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious



They don't need to go that far. Just go to Mexico. Race relations there are perfect. Its a multi ethnic paradise down there! Right?

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (01Fis)

117 goodnight, NaCly Dog!

Infidel, did you see Bernstein playing the piano so hard he raised up from his bench a bit? that ending is a rush!

it was more fun watching it 'with' you!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (9mZIr)

118 Quarto Bachillerato was never supposed to be that exciting.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 10:33 PM (2K6fY)

119 So she'd give them an F if they didnt give her the D...

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 10:07 PM (NWiLs)

She looks like a "1" on the binary scale of Scogg Dog.

Posted by: Die Welt von Wayne at November 19, 2017 10:33 PM (oPNmq)

120 In case it hasn't been mentioned yet, the talks to put together a governing coalition in Germany failed today and the country is possibly headed for a snap election.

Lots of sticking points, but a big one was the Green Party refused to back a deal that would have limited the flood of "refugees" to only 200,000 a year; *unless* members of those 200,000 were allowed to bring in family members later.

Germany is screwed.

Posted by: T at November 19, 2017 10:33 PM (MmeCn)

121 Bottom line, there's gonna be a huge shift in sports broadcasting in the next few years.

The major sports leagues now have their own "network channels" with large, high quality production staffs, and good on-screen talent, most of whom they've stolen from ESPN as they've cut staff.

Five years ago, leagues could barely do one show a day, and it looked like cable access. Now they can fill 24 hours a day without breaking a sweat.

Worse, ESPN is now re-broadcasting a daily MLB produced talk show that originally airs on MLB Network, replacing ESPN's old daily Baseball Tonight show, which has been reduced to Sunday nights only.

Honestly, if you're a fan, then you'll get better MLB and NHL highlights directly from the leagues than ESPN or any other sports network; same goes for games with their league wide video streaming apps.

It's only a matter of time until the NFL and NBA make things too expensive for ESPN to keep cornering the market on those two sports.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:34 PM (I/iGu)

122 Joyce and her Florida and Minnesota friends had a rol Caking good time yesterday: mani-pedi's, fun lunch out, even a girls' sleepover!

So, so blessed.
Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:30 PM (vUcdz)

--Caking?

Good for her!

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:34 PM (GsAUU)

123 What's this about the Feds lowering the official Blood Pressure parameters?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (gdzWc)


Yep. I used to be healthy, now I have high blood pressure (135/85). It's one of the reasons I don't watch the news any more.


Evening roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 19, 2017 10:35 PM (vbvxt)

124 108 Yeah Scott Van Pelt's despising people who read books instead of watching tv isn't exactly flattering to his intellect, is it?
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 10:31 PM (+lVUW)

The flame of a candle reflecting off of his bald-ass head would light up a living room. The entire family would be able to read.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:35 PM (3/sUh)

125 to a woman who used to be a man,


No Scott, he's still a man and his name is still Bruce. Your callous response to Bruce's obvious mental and emotional breakdown does not speak much about you.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:35 PM (01Fis)

126 Infidel, did you see Bernstein playing the piano so hard he raised up from his bench a bit? that ending is a rush!

He totally stole that move from Jerry Lee Lewis.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 19, 2017 10:35 PM (7oUUT)

127 115 There appears to be a difference of opinion across the internet as to whether or not David Cassidy has passed away.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (AZD0

-----------

I vote yes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:35 PM (+0jcH)

128 42 Scott Van Pelt doesn't realize that he (and ESPN) are an expendable commodity.
Posted by: Puddleglum


Welp, his comment about reading books by candlelight indicates to me that he might not be aware of everything that is available digitally. The problem with some of these people in the tv industry and the movie industry is that they haven't quite faced up to the fact that people have more and more other options, and frankly, don't need them.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 10:36 PM (+lVUW)

129 For the 'rons and 'ettes who enjoyed Rhapsody in Blue:

Here's your port wine:

https://youtu.be/kWWVZAFMiZQ

[craves Nanaimo bar]

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:36 PM (GsAUU)

130 I had to look up Scott Van Pelt because I didn't know who he was.

He learned how to treat his customer base from his sister, Lucy.
Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (Sv2/X)


99.999% of my friends would not get that, and we all read the book in middle school.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 19, 2017 10:36 PM (IuYIh)

131 115 There appears to be a difference of opinion across the internet as to whether or not David Cassidy has passed away.
Posted by: Reggie1971



David Cassidy Troofers?

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:36 PM (01Fis)

132 But he does come off as a petulant turd.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (oAY8z)

A turd and a tard.

Posted by: Die Welt von Wayne at November 19, 2017 10:36 PM (oPNmq)

133 @76: "I had to look up Scott Van Pelt because I didn't know who he was."

The weird part is that SVP got his start in golf broadcasting which is arguably the most conservative fan base in all of sports. He spent years doing golf before he ever got into general sports on radio and television.

I assume he's ranting against "dumb football hating hicks" because he knows there's gonna be a reckoning soon.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:37 PM (I/iGu)

134 122 logprof

Not just "Caking:" *rol* Caking!!!

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:38 PM (vUcdz)

135 134 122 logprof

Not just "Caking:" *rol* Caking!!!
Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:38 PM (vUcdz)


So any naked guys jumping out of cakes for this all chick cake patrol?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 10:39 PM (3/sUh)

136 What about Danny Bonaduce? How's his health?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 10:39 PM (+0jcH)

137 135 MisHum

The world may never know....

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:39 PM (vUcdz)

138 to me, Clair de Lune is the perfect cool-down after Rhapsody.

Debussey created this magical song, and it's like a lullaby compared to Gershwin's masterpiece.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:40 PM (9mZIr)

139 Why all the meany stuff to Scott Van Pelt?


Ace likes pelts.

Posted by: Miklos Van Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:40 PM (zCyNd)

140 Interesting blog post by Don Surber suggesting that North Korea's soldiers might be too hungry to fight. Also has the text of Trump's address to South Korea's assembly.

http://tinyurl.com/y6ule5g

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:40 PM (cSguU)

141 Welp, his comment about reading books by candlelight indicates to me that he might not be aware of everything that is available digitally. The problem with some of these people in the tv industry and the movie industry is that they haven't quite faced up to the fact that people have more and more other options, and frankly, don't need them.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 10:36 PM (+lVUW)

I think we are looking at this too deeply. He is an idiot, who is more spouting off about what he perceives the people who disagree with him to be like than what they really are.

What he is saying here is he believes anyone who disagrees with him is a reactionary goon who despises all parts of modern life and culture.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:41 PM (ycWCI)

142 140 junior

Their parasites, however, seem to be in fine fettle.

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 10:41 PM (vUcdz)

143 So parents named their daughter after Oedipus' mother (Yokasta is Spanish for Jocasta) and we're surprised she had no respect for traditional sexual boundaries and liked much younger males?

Posted by: Dr Weevil at November 19, 2017 10:41 PM (4U0eg)

144 He totally stole that move from Jerry Lee Lewis.

And Victor Borge.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 19, 2017 10:41 PM (3C9q2)

145 Bob the Bilderberg, you made me chuckle.

Bernstein's Jerry Lee Lewis in tails. heh. heh.heh.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:41 PM (9mZIr)

146 By her standard just living is a privilege since to humans anything can be a weapon that kills even naked humans are very dangerous. Just ask any other predator or prey animal.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 10:42 PM (zOpu5)

147 I did, booknlass.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 10:42 PM (4ZKcy)

148 Thnx, MisanHuman.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 19, 2017 10:42 PM (9asJl)

149
It's only a matter of time until the NFL and NBA
make things too expensive for ESPN to keep cornering the market on
those two sports.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:34 PM (I/iGu)

The same is coming for college ball. The major conferences don't need ESPN.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar Van Broyles at November 19, 2017 10:43 PM (zCyNd)

150 141: What he is saying here is he believes anyone who disagrees with him is a reactionary goon who despises all parts of modern life and culture.


In other words, he's calling us "deplorable's". That worked out well for Hillary.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:43 PM (01Fis)

151 Welp, his comment about reading books by candlelight indicates to me that he might not be aware of everything that is available digitally.

Should we tell him about the internet, computers, and iphone apps? The shock might be a bit much.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 10:43 PM (Sv2/X)

152 Don't get how sports broadcasting needs more than just decent cameramen and the button dude that picks which camera feed is showing.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 10:43 PM (VDQek)

153 Other people given hip and revolutionary and woke names that turned out... poorly: Medea Benjamin; Benito Mussolini . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:45 PM (6FqZa)

154 153
Other people given hip and revolutionary and woke names that turned out... poorly: Medea Benjamin; Benito Mussolini . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:45 PM (6FqZa)


Hussein....

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:45 PM (zCyNd)

155 In other words, he's calling us "deplorable's". That worked out well for Hillary.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:43 PM (01Fis)

Well, yes. This is pretty much the standard prog MO these days. That is why Hillary could say it, as well as why libs did not see the big deal. They are structuring almost everything around not trying to appeal to more people, but becoming more and more exclusive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:46 PM (ycWCI)

156 Scotts so dumb he thinks that you need TV to have light to read by. He also thinks that without cable TVs don't work and shows can't be watched. He's ESPN dumb. Next step down is CNN dumb and then he can run for Congress as a Dem.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 10:46 PM (zOpu5)

157 You Rhapsody fans, don't forget there is the Concerto in F, "Second Rhapsody."

Gershwin cut a lot of piano rolls. Some were on a true reproducing piano (imagine that!), others, not. So you have to be careful in selecting the recording but, it's a miracle. You can hear Gershwin play Gershwin.

Starting with the opening clarinet gliss, and then sprinkled right through all the major piano works, there's all this evidence that culture was getting appropriated in both directions, back in those dark ages. There is an awful lot of Klesmer in jass, and the surviving French impressionists outright copied jazz sounds while developing some augmentations and diminutions of chord structure that got used a lot, forming the bridge from stomp to swing band.

When I was a lad we used to give some credit it "Ferd" Grofe, too, who did the original orchestral chart and had some fine compositions of his own.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 10:46 PM (H5rtT)

158 Sen. Hatch is NOT all bad. the quote above comes from his speaking truth to the den of vipers that surrounds him.

I say Go Sen. Hatch. pass that Tax Bill, without the time bombs the vipers want in it.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:47 PM (9mZIr)

159 Well, yes. This is pretty much the standard prog MO
these days. That is why Hillary could say it, as well as why libs did
not see the big deal. They are structuring almost everything around not
trying to appeal to more people, but becoming more and more exclusive.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:46 PM (ycWCI)

In short, most Americans are not even worth talking down to.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:47 PM (zCyNd)

160 Worse, ESPN is now re-broadcasting a daily MLB produced talk show that originally airs on MLB Network, replacing ESPN's old daily Baseball Tonight show, which has been reduced to Sunday nights only.

--ESPN streams an MLB Network show, Intentional Talk, with Chris Rose and Kevin Millar, that is excellent --and I'm not a hardcore MLB fan by any means.

MSESPN's own content is mostly shit. Their college football stuff is pretty much all I like.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:47 PM (GsAUU)

161 "It is a privilege that we allow individuals to hold onto something that causes harm and death,"

That's why I chose not to hold onto my whiteness.

Posted by: Shaun King at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (/qEW2)

162 In short, most Americans are not even worth talking down to.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:47 PM (zCyNd)

Exactly. They literally do not want to deal with us on any substantive level.

This will end well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (ycWCI)

163 @155 They are structuring almost everything around not trying to appeal to more people, but becoming more and more exclusive.
------------------------

It worked for Obama, so they hope they can make it work too.

But they're not Obama.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (cSguU)

164 156
Scotts so dumb he thinks that you need TV to have light to read by.


Dashboard light works fine. And maybe for reading.

Posted by: Meatloaf at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (zCyNd)

165 That is why Hillary could say it, as well as why libs did not see the big deal. They are structuring almost everything around not trying to appeal to more people, but becoming more and more exclusive.


Pfft. Spoken like a true 47%er.

Posted by: mitt romney at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (6FqZa)

166 Other people given hip and revolutionary and woke names that turned out... poorly: Medea Benjamin; Benito Mussolini . . .

Ulysses S. Grant and William Tecumseh Sherman turned out rather better.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 19, 2017 10:49 PM (3C9q2)

167 And if you did that, then you're so dumb that I can't even pray for you because you're beyond hope.

Scott. Dear. Should we stop the hammering?

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 10:49 PM (H0quv)

168 You Rhapsody fans, don't forget there is the Concerto in F, "Second Rhapsody."

--Next up on my queue.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:49 PM (GsAUU)

169 165 That is why Hillary could say it, as well as why libs did not see the big deal. They are structuring almost everything around not trying to appeal to more people, but becoming more and more exclusive.


Pfft. Spoken like a true 47%er.
Posted by: mitt romney at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (6FqZa)

Romney was also an idiot who forgot that his job was to try to persuade instead of classify.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:49 PM (ycWCI)

170 The only thing I've watched on ESPN this year is some college football/basketball and the first 2 rounds of The Masters.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:50 PM (01Fis)

171 We had an off grid cabin growing up. I tended to read books during the day when the sun was out. Of course we had a gas stove and fridge so Abe may have been to busy to read when the sun was out.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 10:50 PM (VDQek)

172 @166 Ulysses S. Grant and William Tecumseh Sherman turned out rather better.
---------------------

Well duh! They were both named after tanks! Of *course* they turned out well!

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:51 PM (cSguU)

173 It is a privilege that we allow individuals to hold onto something that causes harm and death

Thank you so much for allowing me this glass of water. Sir.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 10:51 PM (7ulel)

174
"I believe in a lot of things but the first tenet of my politics is to hold up the people who have held me up, who have filled my world with love."

Holding Lena Dunham up is a burden before which even the strongest quail.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 10:51 PM (psKsa)

175 Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:26 PM (cSguU)

I watched one episode and called it quits. Yes, we have the hispanic kid joining the all white, evil, and criminal construction workers. Plus the other stuff you mentioned. I guess tanking the comic books isn't enough. It's time to tank the Netflix series. That being said, I haven't been impressed with the Marvel Netflix series. Of course, Disney may start tanking them on purpose since Disney is starting their own streaming service.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at November 19, 2017 10:51 PM (J70i0)

176 Other people given hip and revolutionary and woke names that turned out... poorly: Medea Benjamin; Benito Mussolini . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:45 PM (6FqZa)


There are a surprising number of Mexicans with the name "Lenin"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 10:52 PM (2K6fY)

177 In short, most Americans are not even worth talking down to.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 10:47 PM (zCyNd)

Exactly. They literally do not want to deal with us on any substantive level.

This will end well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:48 PM (ycWCI)

--------

Yes. The proles are not to question them, our "Betters",. It annoys them. Every 2 to 6 years it really bothers them.

Posted by: Side draft at November 19, 2017 10:53 PM (lFXN8)

178 hold up the people who have ... filled my world with love

There is so much saccharine in this statement, New Yorkers could use it to clear the rats from the whole D line

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:53 PM (6FqZa)

179 I'm pretty sure Van Pelt thinks electricity comes from the magic hole in the wall.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:54 PM (oVJmc)

180 Cowabungle! Donatello no one.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 19, 2017 10:54 PM (0ogQG)

181 Scotts so dumb he thinks that you need TV to have light to read by. He also thinks that without cable TVs don't work and shows can't be watched. He's ESPN dumb. Next step down is CNN dumb and then he can run for Congress as a Dem.
Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 10:46 PM (zOpu5)


I got rid of my cable almost two years ago. With what I have now, I have access to more channels than I ever did with cable. And ESPN is one of them. The only time I watched that channel though was when the Detroit Tigers were on, which is rare.

Posted by: Bill R. at November 19, 2017 10:54 PM (IuYIh)

182 Have always pretty much loathed Jerry Jones but he seems like one of the few voices of sanity in the NFL. He also instituted a policy/program that gives Cowboys players no excuse to drive while drinking.

Talked to a guy who spoke with an NFL player. He says most older players do not like the protests but do not speak out because they will be ostracized by the rest of the team.

Nice commercial tonight featuring an NFL player talking positively about veterans. One flyover video. No in game mention of protests, etc.

Maybe some gurus are getting the word that a lot of folks are not happy with Kaepernickitis.

Posted by: RM at November 19, 2017 10:55 PM (eP+dt)

183
"The world's most dangerous countries"?

Whoa, I've been told by my betters that the US is the most dangerous country in the world. And the most racist, the most unequal, the most xenophobic, the stupidest...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 10:55 PM (NN3rl)

184 88--- Yokasta M is not helping with the stereotype of bug fuck crazy ass Latina.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 10:25 PM (01Fis)
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No, but she's helping with the stereotype of crazy ass American teachers.
At least we can now claim it's an international problem.
That's it!
We can blame it on global warming!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 10:55 PM (0jtPF)

185 Wow, Scotty vp, you condescending prick. Blow it out your ass.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #every man a Wildcat/go KSU at November 19, 2017 10:56 PM (x3yKT)

186 @169

To be fair, it was a private remark made amongst "friends." Who amongst us has never talked about how there are certain people who will not vote a certain way no matter what. I am sure I've thrown a percentage out there before.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 10:56 PM (smD62)

187 Other people given hip and revolutionary and woke names that turned out... poorly: Medea Benjamin; Benito Mussolini . . .

"Medea" Benjamin is actually named "Susie Benjamin."

"Mumia al-Jabongie" is actually named "Wesley Cook."

"Donald Sterling" is actually named "Donald Tokowitz."

"Jonathan Stewart" is actually named "Jonathan Liebowitz."

"Bill DeBlasio" is actually named "Warren Wilhelm."

This little interlude brought to you by ... reality.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 10:56 PM (YqDXo)

188 Missed a shift

https://youtu.be/k_Xv_SDopd4?t=159

keep watching

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 10:56 PM (FhXTo)

189 I second what Junior said about Netflix Punisher. I got really frustrated with it. My recommendation is do not watch. The highlights of the character would be entirely within the other show Daredevil.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 19, 2017 10:57 PM (rnAwa)

190 Romney was also an idiot who forgot that his job was to try to persuade instead of classify.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 10:49 PM (ycWCI)

Romney was touting the same weak sauce that the Bush's had pushed in their 12 years. Plus he had a record of being a squish. He was simply unmotivating.

I think the Mormons are ticked that Romney didn't win and blame Christian conservatives for it. Then those same Christians supported the morally questionable Trump.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at November 19, 2017 10:57 PM (J70i0)

191 183
"The world's most dangerous countries"?

Whoa, I've been told by my betters that the US is the most dangerous country in the world. And the most racist, the most unequal, the most xenophobic, the stupidest...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 10:55 PM (NN3rl)

--Dog forbid you drive while black in America!

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:57 PM (GsAUU)

192 Holding Lena Dunham up is a burden before which even the strongest quail.

Early Thanksgiving: we were spared a Yoko quote on tonight's ONT.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 19, 2017 10:58 PM (3C9q2)

193 If this is true it's a kinda big deal.

Saudi Top Cleric: "Fighting Jews Forbidden - Hamas is Terror Group"!

http://tinyurl.com/ya2r97np

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 10:58 PM (zOpu5)

194 A couple more:

"John Kerry" is actually named "John Kohn."

"George Soros" is actually named "György Schwartz."

Posted by Deplorable Jay Buffett/Gates/Rockefeller

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 10:58 PM (YqDXo)

195 @175

Fortunately, the hispanic construction guy disappears after the second episode.

There's actually a decent Bible-quoting guy in Castle's unit in Afghanistan, but we don't see much of him.

I think the best moment so far was when the Mexican gangster got sniped just as he was about to get a blow-job. That was about five minutes into episode 1.

Yeah.

It's a shame, too, because the first half of Season Two of Daredevil (which is when they focused on The Punisher) was probably the best thing that's aired on Netflix Marvel to date.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (cSguU)

196 There are a surprising number of Mexicans with the name "Lenin"

Yet where did Trotsky live? That's right.

You can win the beer bet with the fact that Benito Mussolini had a son who was a really good jazz pianist. And, ready? "He always made the refrains run on time."

There was a saxophonist in the Stan Kenton organization using the name "Boots" Mussolini, but I don't really think he was family. Too good to believe, "Caligula," but his sessions with Stan Getz must have been legendary.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (H5rtT)

197 "Medea" Benjamin is actually named "Susie Benjamin."

Woke-Up Little Susie ?

Anyway, thanks for that, because I didn't know. So Miss Benjamin's parents aren't to blame. They probably wish she'd gone to the pole

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (6FqZa)

198 This little interlude brought to you by ... reality.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 10:56 PM (YqDXo)

Muhammad Ali? really Cassius Clay
John Wayne? really Marion Morrison

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (oPNmq)

199 Whoa, I've been told by my betters that the US is the most dangerous country in the world. And the most racist, the most unequal, the most xenophobic, the stupidest...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 10:55 PM (NN3rl)


Which explains why people move the earth, and risk their lives, to come here. Just to help us clean up our act.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (YqDXo)

200
There are a surprising number of Mexicans with the name "Lenin"


Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 10:52 PM (2K6fY)

The Trotsky line seems to have died out there.

Posted by: Miklos, a Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:00 PM (zCyNd)

201 Fighting Jews Forbidden

Phrasing, phrasing, phrasing: the Saudis might be just fine with Pacifist Jews.

Posted by: Basement Cat at November 19, 2017 11:00 PM (3C9q2)

202 Ulysses Grant's real name is Hiram.
Screw you, Reality.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 11:00 PM (H5rtT)

203 Lew Alcindor wasn't woke

Posted by: NCKate at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (Jj68o)

204 153 Other people given hip and revolutionary and woke names that turned out... poorly: Medea Benjamin; Benito Mussolini . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 10:45 PM (6FqZa)
--------------------------------
The sick thing about Benjamin is that her real name is Susan. She actually changed it to Medea.
Just plain creepy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (0jtPF)

205
Muhammad Ali? really Cassius Clay
John Wayne? really Marion Morrison


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (oPNmq)

Does this mean that Alberta O. Peon is not your actual name?

Posted by: Miklos, a Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (zCyNd)

206 Fortunately, the hispanic construction guy disappears after the second episode.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (cSguU)

But that's even more stupid, since they set him up as a significant character.

Yes, the sniper shot was a good scene.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (J70i0)

207 @193 Saudi Top Cleric: "Fighting Jews Forbidden - Hamas is Terror Group"!
-------------------------

I think the Saudi Crown Prince has decided that if he wants to deal with Iran, he's going to need to make nice with Israel.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (cSguU)

208 Tutoring a man from Camaroon Friday, I talked with him about America.

I truly think he would love our country if he didn't discern so much self-loathing in the college culture and from his peers, the entertainment and press.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (9mZIr)

209 Way too many Latrinos named Vladimir, Ivan, and Sasha.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (GsAUU)

210 I actually watch MORE TV since I cut cable.

Why? Because the programming is better.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:32 PM (oVJmc)

That's the really retarded thing about the claim resting on the notion that if you don't want shitty ESPN and cable you aren't watching anything. There's much more and better available without paying these gatekeepers.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (tbOMB)

211 Muhammad Ali? really Cassius Clay
John Wayne? really Marion Morrison
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM (oPNmq)


Yep. Although I make room for Hollywood stars to adopt stage names that they consider more consonant with their public personae. You could hardly be a macho action star with a name such as "Ben Dover."

OTOH, IMO that doesn't let Jon Stewart/Liebowitz off the hook, because 1) he's not a movie star, and 2) in terms of cachet, Stewart ~ Liebowitz.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (YqDXo)

212 @149: "The same is coming for college ball. The major conferences don't need ESPN."

Agreed. ESPN's three tentpoles are the NFL, NCAA football, and the NBA. They really don't have much else anymore.

They won't be able to afford Monday Night Football again in a few years. There's a good chance one of the big tech companies like Apple, Google, Netflix, Amazon, etc., will make a play for those games, and the NFL sees those companies as "more equal partners" than lowly ESPN or even Disney.

So, ESPN won't have any actual NFL game broadcasts, and worse, the NFL will bleed them dry for highlights alone. Terrible negotiating position.

College football is a little more complicated. Lots of the current college conference channels are actually co-produced by ESPN, and it's questionable how many, if any, are independently profitable at this point.

Conferences could partner with some of the major regional sports networks instead. Fox owns a bunch and so does NBC. There are plenty of big independent companies in that sphere too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (I/iGu)

213 Missed a shift

He lost the rhythm

Posted by: Sammy Hagar at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (wpC7C)

214 202
Ulysses Grant's real name is Hiram.


And we were good friends.

Posted by: Hiram Walker at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (zCyNd)

215 Wait, wait...you mean Rip Torn might be just a stage name?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (y3sT9)

216

Just home, Booknlass' post on a video of AIP? Anyone? Want!

Posted by: In Vino Verits at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (t3kPl)

217 209 Way too many Latrinos named Vladimir, Ivan, and Sasha.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:03 PM (GsAUU)


True. A very good friend of mine from Venezuela was named "Ivan" by his parents, as a political statement.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (YqDXo)

218 Does this mean that Alberta O. Peon is not your actual name?


Posted by: Miklos, a Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (zCyNd)

It's actually Alberta O'Peon. I'm Irish on my mother's side.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (oPNmq)

219 146 By her standard just living is a privilege since to humans anything can be a weapon that kills even naked humans are very dangerous. Just ask any other predator or prey animal.
Posted by: geoffb


So my being allowed to have a crowbar is a privilege?
I am so thankful to Congress for letting me keep a hammer without having to get a license.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (+lVUW)

220 215 Wait, wait...you mean Rip Torn might be just a stage name?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (y3sT9

Da Fuq!?

Posted by: Meadow Lark Lemon at November 19, 2017 11:05 PM (3/sUh)

221 Pop thots have nothing on Taylor Momsen

https://youtu.be/bmtbg5b7_Aw

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 19, 2017 11:05 PM (rnAwa)

222 215 Wait, wait...you mean Rip Torn might be just a stage name?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 11:04 PM (y3sT9)


I suspect so.

But my real name is Deplorable Jay Guevara, of course.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:05 PM (YqDXo)

223 The sick thing about Benjamin is that her real name is Susan. She actually changed it to Medea.

Just plain creepy.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 11:02 PM (0jtPF)

It was supposed to be Medusa. Clerical error.

Posted by: Miklos the semi-classicist at November 19, 2017 11:06 PM (zCyNd)

224
The bald blue-suited bow-tied Pepsi guy needs a serious punching.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 11:06 PM (Jcq9k)

225 @206 But that's even more stupid, since they set him up as a significant character.
-------------------

Yes, and no.

*spoiler*


He gets in trouble, and Frank cleans up that trouble, which allows Micro to figure out where Frank is hiding. After that, he's served his purpose in the plot.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 11:06 PM (cSguU)

226 200
There are a surprising number of Mexicans with the name "Lenin"


Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 10:52 PM (2K6fY)

The Trotsky line seems to have died out there.
Posted by: Miklos, a Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:00 PM (zCyNd)


If you'd axed them, then you'd know why.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (YqDXo)

227 @212

I dunno....I think college is a little too complicated for that. Where I am....pretty much every network station, plus both ESPNs, plus Big 10 Network, plus all the Fox networks, plus NBC when Notre Dame plays....they all have games, pretty much all day. And, that doesn't count the lesser games on ESPNU and ESPN News and so on.

I think it is going to be way too hard to get ABC/ESPN out of the college football game. There's just nowhere else to put those games.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (smD62)

228 152 Don't get how sports broadcasting needs more than just decent cameramen and the button dude that picks which camera feed is showing.


Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 10:43 PM (VDQek)


And one guy to do elbow inventory on the chrzledrz..

Posted by: Chief Elbow Inspector. at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (EK6pT)

229 The Trotsky line seems to have died out there.
Posted by: Miklos, a Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:00 PM (zCyNd)

-----------

Going to Mexico tiurned out to be a bad pick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 11:08 PM (+0jcH)

230 Holding Lena Dunham up is a burden before which even the strongest quail.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Lena Dunham's toilet seat at November 19, 2017 11:08 PM (YqDXo)

231
If you'd axed them, then you'd know why.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (YqDXo)

I'll be n'ice, and not pick.

Posted by: Miklos at November 19, 2017 11:09 PM (zCyNd)

232 "Ulysses Grant's real name is Hiram."

There was another famous Hiram last name Maxim.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 11:09 PM (VDQek)

233 And the winner of Trump's Fault for today is The New Yorker magazine!

The New Yorker @NewYorker
The attack on Rand Paul by his neighbor reveals a sinister banality of American life that, these days, is often emanating from Donald Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:09 PM (Nwg0u)

234 @224: "The bald blue-suited bow-tied Pepsi guy needs a serious punching."

He's only there 'cause he does HBO's Ballers with The Rock.

I hope Pepsi is paying him a metric fuckton for those commercials though.

They're not funny, and if people are being honest, then they'll admit all of the "new and exciting" end zone celebrations this year are sad and lame too.

It's a bad tie-in marketing wise.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:09 PM (I/iGu)

235 Muhammad Ali? really Cassius Clay


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 10:59 PM


That was a dumb, dumb name change. Cassius Clay was a fantastic name for a boxer. Think about it. It sounds punchy, it has a cool roman angle and then there's "clay". It's just an awesome fighter's name. He was an idiot.


Posted by: otho at November 19, 2017 11:09 PM (qGuLD)

236 If you'd axed them, then you'd know why.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (YqDXo)

They must have planted ol' Leon in the ground water table. Because everyone who drinks Mexican water gets the trots.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:10 PM (oPNmq)

237 In Vino, AIP? I'm here, but I'm too slow to know what it is of which you speak

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:10 PM (9mZIr)

238 I think it is going to be way too hard to get ABC/ESPN out of the college football game. There's just nowhere else to put those games.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (smD62)

Fox
Fox Sports 1
Fox Sports North, South, etc
CBS
CBS College Sports
NBC
NBCSPN
Big 10 Network
SEC Network
PAC 12 Network

Fuck ABC/ESPN

Posted by: Meadow Lark Lemon at November 19, 2017 11:10 PM (3/sUh)

239 I got the Trotskies in Mexico one time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:10 PM (Nwg0u)

240 I've met AOP.....and yes that is his real name

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at November 19, 2017 11:11 PM (mMeIQ)

241 Y'all see this story?

@Cernovich

Ranking Democrat on major committee accused of several harassment by multiple women. Huge scandal. Developing...

8:57 PM - 19 Nov 2017

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 11:11 PM (Enq6K)

242
I think it is going to be way too hard to get
ABC/ESPN out of the college football game. There's just nowhere else to
put those games.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (smD62)

ESPN sells a season pass for about $145/year. Gives access though internet, not cable. The ACC was set to do the same 5 years ago.

Posted by: Miklos from Tobacco Road at November 19, 2017 11:11 PM (zCyNd)

243 Off Harlem Globetrotters sock

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 11:11 PM (3/sUh)

244 I dunno....I think college is a little too complicated for that. Where I am....pretty much every network station, plus both ESPNs, plus Big 10 Network, plus all the Fox networks, plus NBC when Notre Dame plays....they all have games, pretty much all day. And, that doesn't count the lesser games on ESPNU and ESPN News and so on.

I think it is going to be way too hard to get ABC/ESPN out of the college football game. There's just nowhere else to put those games.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:07 PM (smD62)

----------

Some enterpriser will find a way to stream them that will not involve having to have Comcast, Dish or DirectTv as your provider for over $100/month.

If they can not see this coming, and very soon, they are idiots.

Posted by: Side draft at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (lFXN8)

245 BRB. Got to go let the dog in.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (oPNmq)

246 Diego Rivera was an avowed Trotskyite right up til Trotsky was murdered (and maybe from when Frida slept with him)

After that he was a reliable hard core Stalinist.


Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (2K6fY)

247 "so I'm now not gonna have any cable TV at all and I'm gonna sit around at night and read books by candlelight like olden times because of that,"

I somehow think there is a middle ground between no cable at all and reading books by candlelight.

What an idiot Scott Van Pelt is.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V baby, it's cold outside at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (P8951)

248 179 I'm pretty sure Van Pelt thinks electricity comes from the magic hole in the wall.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 10:54 PM (oVJmc)


Pro tip: keep your power outlets covered to keep the electrons from leaking out.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (YqDXo)

249 Wolf Blitzers real name is Boaty McBoatface.

Posted by: Ripley at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (NbRJx)

250 235 He should have changed his name to George.

Posted by: George Foreman at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (p6WoB)

251
Simple Simon met a cowman while walking down the street.
Said Simple Simon to the cowman: "Let me suck your teat."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (IqV8l)

252 Diego Rivera was an avowed Trotskyite right up til Trotsky was murdered (and maybe from when Frida slept with him)

Can you say "pussy-whipped?" I can.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (YqDXo)

253 Wait, wait...you mean Rip Torn might be just a stage name?

-
More Harveywood phoniness:
Saw [Justice League], really liked it. I am slightly in love with Gal Gadot, but who isn't. If you see it, stay till the end of the credits.

No spoiler, but I had to look up something. If, when you see Superman's mouth, you think it looks CGI, that's because it is. They had to reshoot and it ran long. Henry Cavill had already started production on Mission Impossible 6, and had to grow a mustache for it. Paramount said "too bad" to WB for needing him back to reshoot, and they forbade him from shaving his stache. So they had to CGI it out. Mystery solved.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (Nwg0u)

254 @241 Ranking Democrat on major committee accused of several harassment by multiple women. Huge scandal. Developing...
------------------

Hopefully we get a name. The recent chatter was about how the House and Senate have paid off a bunch of women. A ranking Dem named and bagged would be nice (and make the place safer for women).

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (cSguU)

255 Why is Cernovich teasing a story? What's the precedent for anything coming of it? Why would he do that?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 19, 2017 11:15 PM (rnAwa)

256 Got to go let the dog in.

Who let it out?

Posted by: Baha Men at November 19, 2017 11:15 PM (wpC7C)

257 @238

Did you not read what I said? There are games already on all, or many of those other networks already. The suggestion was made about doing deals with regional networks, but, at least where I am, the regional networks are either a) garbage quality or b) already have games being shown on them.

Unless you are willing to tell the teams currently televised on SEC Network that they are being kicked off so the SEC network can televise Alabama/Auburn, I just don't think that will fly. You could do what is currently done with the NFL, and only show certain games in certain areas. But, many people want to watch all the games, not just the ones in their area.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:15 PM (smD62)

258 Jerry Jones and Roger Goodell.

Couldn't they both lose?

I mean, the ONLY thing that Jerry is concerned about is his money.
Jerry could care less about the game and a lot of other things. His true colors were revealed early, when he bought the Cowboys and treated Tom Landry like dirt.

Never a really big Tom Landry fan, but for a lot of years, he WAS the Dallas Cowboys.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 11:16 PM (S6Pax)

259 246
Diego Rivera was an avowed Trotskyite right up til Trotsky was murdered (and maybe from when Frida slept with him)

After that he was a reliable hard core Stalinist.




Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (2K6fY)

Which adds a nice premium when his works are bought at auction by wealthy collectors.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:16 PM (zCyNd)

260 She's got it exactly backwards.

The right to defend one's life and family is a God-given right that precedes government. As is the right to travel.

Serving as a representative is the privilege--yet she treats that as her right.

It's odd that Nino didn't die in own bed.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 19, 2017 11:16 PM (Ndje9)

261 Ah==

American In Paris.

What I went to was a video on youtube of L. Bernstein conducting and solo on piano with the N.Y. Philharmonic performing Gershwin's "Rhapsody in Blue."

check it out. you vill like it!!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:16 PM (9mZIr)

262

Booknlass, American in Paris? Or your nifty video link? I am more brain dead than usual but caught a reference upthread... or the alien parasites are shsh uurbjeb kkksq/////

Posted by: In Vino Verits at November 19, 2017 11:16 PM (t3kPl)

263 There was another famous Hiram last name Maxim.
Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 11:09 PM (VDQek)


Ol' W1AW, yeah? Founder of the American Radio Relay League and the Amateur Cinema League.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 11:17 PM (y87Qq)

264 @227: "I think it is going to be way too hard to get ABC/ESPN out of the college football game. There's just nowhere else to put those games."

You might be right, and honestly, ESPN being "nationwide leader in college football" wouldn't be an awful thing for them, just smaller than "worldwide leader of sports."

It depends on where college football goes in the next decade. They'll want to expand the playoffs to eight teams. The NCAA might not be comfortable giving all those games to ESPN alone anymore.

Bigger question is whether the big conference television and streaming channels are rock solid "partners in ownership" agreements or just licensing agreements. I'll have to dig around for more information on that.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:17 PM (I/iGu)

265 I think you guys should take it easy on Murray Miller, I mean its not like he raped his own sister or something.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at November 19, 2017 11:17 PM (Z8FFX)

266
Wait, wait...you mean Rip Torn might be just a stage name?

I don't believe it.

Posted by: Slim Pickens at November 19, 2017 11:18 PM (IqV8l)

267 The New Yorker @NewYorker
The attack on Rand Paul by his neighbor reveals a sinister banality of American life that, these days, is often emanating from Donald Trump.


The attack on Trump by the media reveals a sinister banality of liberal life that, these days, is often emanating from The New Yorker. Or so I heard, I don't know anyone who reads it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 19, 2017 11:18 PM (rnAwa)

268 Why is Cernovich teasing a story? What's the precedent for anything coming of it? Why would he do that?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 19, 2017 11:15 PM (rnAwa)

I can see one possible reason: chances are there are several dozen Dems who might think they are the one spoken of, and some of them may do stupid shit to try to avoid being named.

Spooking the herd, so to speak.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:19 PM (oPNmq)

269 Hey..wait a minute.. that last pic looks a lot like Ace!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 19, 2017 11:19 PM (5tSKk)

270 *Listening to "Second Rhapsody"*

What a fun tune.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:19 PM (GsAUU)

271
Bigger question is whether the big conference
television and streaming channels are rock solid "partners in ownership"
agreements or just licensing agreements. I'll have to dig around for
more information on that.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:17 PM (I/iGu)

My recollection is that the ACC deal, at least, was for 7 years.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 11:19 PM (zCyNd)

272 A ranking Dem named and bagged would be nice (and make the place safer for women).
Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (cSguU)


Book 'em, Dano.

The more Democrats' careers end up with tags on their toes, the better.

The funny part: all of this sexual harassment shit was started by the Reds, hoping to change the composition of the Senate and to tarnish The Donald.

You've got to laugh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (YqDXo)

273 logprof, I'm still listening to Clair de Lune. it's the extended version.

more like eternal.

but i still like it....

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (9mZIr)

274 41 Why do all these TV fundraising pleas want $19 per month? What's magic about $19 per month?

Posted by: Pete Seria, The Marquess of Kingsbury at November 19, 2017 10:15 PM (lJW6d)

++++

Two possibilities.

1) Someone carefully researched the available data for their specific economic model and crafted a graph such as this one, showing the profit maximizing price.

http://www.amosweb.com/images/PfCm36y.gif

2) Someone pulled the number out of his ass.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (FUu/Z)

275 Well, the one biography I read of Frida claimed she did it because Diego slept with her sister.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (2K6fY)

276 195 junior

"I can get that with one shot"

#JustThePunchline

Posted by: ibguy at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (vUcdz)

277 Ranking Democrat on major committee accused of several harassment by multiple women. Huge scandal. Developing...
___
But wait, can they show a piece of paper he signed? I mean, err, might have signed?

Posted by: Gloria Allred at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (Z8FFX)

278
Next to Rip Torn, Gale Storm is my favorite stage name. Her actual name was Josephine Owaissa Cottle. Can't imagine why she adopted a stage name.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (y3sT9)

279 James Garfield, no kidding the smartest man to ever be President, was a professor at Hiram College, named after Hiram Ohio, named after...they appear to have forgotten, but it was 1817 so I'm going with the great mythic character of the Masonic movement. Lots of Hirams running around in 1800's.

Hiram Maxim is the actual guy who "built a better mousetrap," and yet the world did not beat a pathway to his door. Not until later. He got advice.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 11:21 PM (H5rtT)

280 And we were good friends.
Posted by: Hiram Walker at November 19, 2017 11:03

Hmm, there are several stories about that. But Lincoln, said I can't loose this general, he fights.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 11:21 PM (yJ1e6)

281
check it out. you vill like it!!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:16 PM (9mZIr)

Or else! Good Nina Hagen Marketing!

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, not from DDR at November 19, 2017 11:21 PM (zCyNd)

282 249 Wolf Blitzers real name is Boaty McBoatface.
Posted by: Ripley at November 19, 2017 11:14 PM (NbRJx

Heh, i thought it was Assy McAss-Ass

or Fucky McFuck-Stick

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 11:21 PM (3/sUh)

283 In Vino, here's a link

https://tinyurl.com/qenkblu

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:22 PM (9mZIr)

284 @241: "@Cernovich // Ranking Democrat on major committee accused of several harassment by multiple women. Huge scandal. Developing... "

We'll see, but I won't hold my breath 'cause it's Cernovich.

There are plenty of lesser committees and sub-committees with ranking members that no one could ever pick out of a police lineup.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:22 PM (I/iGu)

285 Can't decide about that flag. Looks larger than a post flag, but smaller than a garrison flag. No reason it has to meet regs though.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 11:23 PM (y3sT9)

286 Fearless Fly's name was Hiram.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:23 PM (IqV8l)

287 Another issue with streaming is...internet speeds in the US in general are horrendous. But, internet speeds/reliability in the more rural areas of the country, places prone to have a higher number of college football aficionados than average, we'll say...

Nothing is worse while watching sports than freezes and lags and dropped signal. I have Netflix, for example, but I can only get it to work on my TV about 10% of the time. The rest, I rely on my computer. But, Netflix isn't live sporting events. Internet speeds and equipment would have to be more widespread and flawless in a big way before sports via streaming service will really take off.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:23 PM (smD62)

288 It rubs the lotion on its pelt.

Posted by: Jame Gumb at November 19, 2017 11:24 PM (EK6pT)

289 @254: "The recent chatter was about how the House and Senate have paid off a bunch of women."

Sean Davis from The Federalist website did a Twitter rant about that payoff spreadsheet and declared it fake news.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:24 PM (I/iGu)

290 2) Someone pulled the number out of his ass.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (FUu/Z)

Your misogynistic assumptions are on full display.


Posted by: Marissa Mayer's ass at November 19, 2017 11:24 PM (zCyNd)

291 We'll see, but I won't hold my breath 'cause it's Cernovich.



There are plenty of lesser committees and sub-committees with
ranking members that no one could ever pick out of a police lineup.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:22 PM (I/iGu)

The accusation doesn't have to be true to start a flurry of positioning, though. And it might encourage hitherto-silent "victims" to speak up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:24 PM (oPNmq)

292
...internet speeds in the US in general are horrendous.

We need a new Manhattan Project!

Posted by: Paul Krugman at November 19, 2017 11:25 PM (IqV8l)

293 @Cernovich promised us that last Friday didn't he? And we got nothing. Except maybe StolenValor Blumenthal, whom we already knew was an asshole, and his constituents don't care.

Guessing @Cernovich's revelation is going to be... Blumenthal.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 11:25 PM (6FqZa)

294 I hope I'm wrong but... @Cernovich.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 11:26 PM (6FqZa)

295 wouldn't it be hysterical if the senior demonrat was Diane Fineswine?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 11:27 PM (tmycC)

296 Hmm, there are several stories about that. But Lincoln, said I can't loose this general, he fights.
Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 11:21 PM (yJ1e6)281



Then tighten him down!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:27 PM (YqDXo)

297 It's also hilarious that you're supposedly a lowbrow if you don't watch...A SPORTS NETWORK.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 11:27 PM (oVJmc)

298 Not looking these up, just top of the head, but today is the anniversary of the introduction of the Edsel automobile, named after H1's son. And Edsel is prominently portrayed in the Rivera Ford murals at Detroit Institute of Arts. Frida was miserable in Michigan, and lost a baby at Henry Ford Hospital. She blamed America. But Edsel was Rivera's greatest benefactor. Figures.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 11:27 PM (H5rtT)

299 Next to Rip Torn, Gale Storm is my favorite stage
name. Her actual name was Josephine Owaissa Cottle. Can't imagine why
she adopted a stage name.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (y3sT9)

"Happy Birthday, Mr. President..."

Posted by: Norma Jeane Mortenson at November 19, 2017 11:27 PM (zCyNd)

300 244---Some enterpriser will find a way to stream them that will not involve having to have Comcast, Dish or DirectTv as your provider for over $100/month.

Posted by: Side draft at November 19, 2017 11:13 PM (lFXN
------------------------------
I would love that.
To stream (most) college baseball games we have to have Comcast cable-TV. I could see why we might have to have Comcast internet, which we do, but why the cable-TV for something coming off the internet?

This makes no sense to me --- although I guess it makes $en$e to Comcast.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 11:27 PM (0jtPF)

301 Hiram Maxim is the actual guy who "built a better
mousetrap," and yet the world did not beat a pathway to his door. Not
until later. He got advice.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 11:21 PM (H5rtT)


Maxim also researched and wrote a book about heavier than air flight, and a number of other things. He was kind of what Edison claimed to be, without wrapping all his associates in rights agreements for the inventions.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:28 PM (2K6fY)

302 is Cernovich quoting TGP?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 11:28 PM (tmycC)

303 257 @238

Did you not read what I said?

--------
I did, you wrote, " think it is going to be way too hard to get ABC/ESPN out of the college football game. There's just nowhere else to put those games. "




ABC/ESPN and ESPN carry 3 games at a time, look at all of the networks I pointed out to you that can, do and will carry college games.

ESPN is hemorrhaging and I for one will not hand them a band-aid.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 11:28 PM (3/sUh)

304 Next to Rip Torn, Gale Storm is my favorite stage name. Her actual name was Josephine Owaissa Cottle. Can't imagine why she adopted a stage name.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Ah, Gale Storm

She was the star of "My Little Margie"

She was really cute, and I was just a little boy when that TV show was on. I mean, we watched black and white TV by candlelight in those days.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 11:28 PM (S6Pax)

305 I sure hope you all watched the LA Beast's YouTube video showing how to drink 6 beers in 40 seconds, as I did, and SUBSCRIBED TO HIS CHANNEL.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 19, 2017 11:29 PM (U6f54)

306 273 logprof, I'm still listening to Clair de Lune. it's the extended version.

more like eternal.

but i still like it....
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:20 PM (9mZIr)

--I love the Great American Songbook. When America had a BSD, and not military, but culture. Ella and Diana Krall were my gateway drugs to the Songbook.

The music is so good. I dearly wish the young folk would appreciate it, the romance, instead of "I Do Believe We Are Naked Now"

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:29 PM (GsAUU)

307 ESPN is hemorrhaging and I for one will not hand them a band-aid.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

You are a cold, cruel man.

I admire that.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 11:29 PM (S6Pax)

308
What the hell? Two of my characteristically trenchant comments never appeared.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 11:29 PM (mKCoC)

309 @Tickled Pink:

I think the bigger question is whether or not the NCAA can gather multiple Power Five conferences to do one big streaming deal together and create an "NCAA Football League Pass" kinda option.

Or maybe some conferences will get ballsy and do their own mutual agreements without the NCAA.

Trouble is those big college conferences are notorious fiefdoms.

Cooperation is not their historical strong suit.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:30 PM (I/iGu)

310 "Yokasta M." ?

Please God, tell me she doesn't have a son named "Eddie"....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2017 11:31 PM (hcyUh)

311 "It is a privilege that we allow individuals to hold onto something that causes harm and death,""It is a privilege to have a car license, it is a privilege to have a gun license." Representative Marjorie Decker

This statement bothers me. It bothers me not just because of the obvious reasons (breathtaking ignorance about founding ideals of the US from a representative, for one) but rather for the same reason a statement (or misstatement from on of the other idiot congress critter dems a few years ago when they were having hearings on gas companies and she said something to the effect "Well, maybe we will just nationalize your industry..."

"...we allow individuals" is the part that jumps out at me. She is not speaking in context about "We": the United States. She speaks in context as "We": Your Masters. This is a fundamental and toxic difference- and one all too many of our representatives seem to take to heart.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 11:32 PM (ycWCI)

312 Okay, "Second Rhapsody" is certifiably awesome.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:33 PM (GsAUU)

313 310
"Yokasta M." ?



Please God, tell me she doesn't have a son named "Eddie"....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2017 11:31 PM (hcyUh)

She has an Auntie. Nice lady in Kansas.

Posted by: Miklos the Wizard of uhs at November 19, 2017 11:34 PM (zCyNd)

314 a privilege to have a gun license

Yeah. It's "citizenship". That's the privilege.

When you allow rights to invaders you don't allow to citizens, then welcome to Rome 410 AD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, boring everyone with late antiquity references again at November 19, 2017 11:35 PM (6FqZa)

315 Elmore Rual Torn, Jr.

"Rip" was also his father's nickname. It runs in the family.
And his first daughter was named Danae, kind of a heavily-fated name.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 11:36 PM (H5rtT)

316 OK, just posit this.

Jules has 'Madame Sec." on. There is a character that is so lesbian/butch I mentioned it. J is just used them mainstreaming this crap she wonders why I'm bothered.

It's this insidious crap that's killing our society. Yikes!

I need to get ready for bed. Well and have another shot of tquila before I take the garbage out. YAY!

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 11:36 PM (yJ1e6)

317 From now on, when some 'tard says 'we're a nation of immigrants,' my reply will be, 'no. we're a nation of citizens.'

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:36 PM (9mZIr)

318 @287: "Internet speeds and equipment would have to be more widespread and flawless in a big way before sports via streaming service will really take off."

Very true, but honestly, we're less than five years away from mobile phone streaming being faster, more stable, and more widespread than traditional phone and cable services.

The bigger question is how mobile companies will form agreements with content providers to manage download speeds and data caps. That's the whole Net Neutrality thing.

I downgraded my Comcast service to internet only last week. I'm doing Live TV streaming tests this month and next. Most services aren't as flawless as actual cable, but they're good enough. The problem is they chew up huge download totals.

But, in theory, Comcast could say they've partnered with Netflix, and those streams won't count against my monthly quota.

Or T-Mobile, who already gives away free MLB.tv season passes to their customers might say the same thing about baseball streams; won't count against data caps.

Brave new world coming soon.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:36 PM (I/iGu)

319 Please God, tell me she doesn't have a son named "Eddie"....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 19, 2017 11:31 PM (hcyUh)

If she had demanded that her students service her orally, she could call herself "Eatapuss".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:36 PM (oPNmq)

320
she said something to the effect "Well, maybe we will just nationalize your industry..."

That was Mad Max(ine)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:37 PM (IqV8l)

321 When you allow rights to invaders you don't allow to citizens, then welcome to Rome 410 AD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
****************************

Bavarians at the gates.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 11:37 PM (lmPMy)

322 @303

You would then also see that I hadalready mentioned those other networks you mentioned....for the most part, already have games on them.

We have to put Purdue-Eastern Michigan somewhere.

I know I am bucking the trend here. But, I don't like NFL Season pass, and I don't like the idea of a NCAA Football Pass either. I don't like the idea of NFL Network or MLB Network carrying most of or even the most important games. Because I don't want to pay extra for those services.

I'll deal with ESPN and whatever other networks want to carry those games. I'd rather deal than pay extra for something....which I actually wouldn't pay extra....I just would stop watching college football.



Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 19, 2017 11:37 PM (smD62)

323 It is a privilege to have a car license, it is a privilege to have a gun license." Representative Marjorie Decker


And yet, you promote and encourage illegal aliens to get a drivers license and vote. Fk you mewling quim.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 11:38 PM (4ZKcy)

324 When you allow rights to invaders you don't allow to citizens, then welcome to Rome 410 AD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, boring everyone with late antiquity references again at November 19, 2017 11:35 PM (6FqZa)

What would be so bad about the capital being looted, sacked, and burned?
Asking for some cool Goth friends.

Posted by: Miklos Molnarius at November 19, 2017 11:38 PM (zCyNd)

325 320
she said something to the effect "Well, maybe we will just nationalize your industry..."

That was Mad Max(ine)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:37 PM (IqV8l)



Of course, we maybe we will also just draft Maxine's demographic to pick cotton. Lots of possibilities out there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:39 PM (YqDXo)

326 If she had demanded that her students service her orally, she could call herself "Eatapuss".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:36 PM (oPNmq)


Golf Claps

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 11:39 PM (3/sUh)

327 honestly, we're less than five years away from mobile phone streaming being faster, more stable, and more widespread than traditional phone and cable services.

The issue here is that the more information you pack into a transmission, the higher frequency/ shorter wavelength. And those don't pass through walls real well.

So you have to put transmitters around your home or businesses have to put transmitters around THEIR establishments, to move those signals into high bandwidth Series Of Tubes.

Be interesting to see how they work out the engineering . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo is moving on to boring people about physics at November 19, 2017 11:40 PM (6FqZa)

328 What would be so bad about the capital being looted, sacked, and burned?
Asking for some cool Goth friends.


Posted by: Miklos Molnarius at November 19, 2017 11:38 PM (zCyNd)

Some of them would need to be double-sacked. Just sayin'

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 11:40 PM (oPNmq)

329 324 When you allow rights to invaders you don't allow to citizens, then welcome to Rome 410 AD.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo, boring everyone with late antiquity references again at November 19, 2017 11:35 PM (6FqZa)

--Sheeeeeeeeit, that's a conservative date if you ask me.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:40 PM (GsAUU)

330 Of course, we maybe we will also just draft Maxine's demographic to pick cotton. Lots of possibilities out there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:39 PM (YqDXo)
*************************

Your opinion of cotton pickers is too low.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 11:40 PM (lmPMy)

331
What would be so bad about the capital being looted, sacked, and burned?
Asking for some cool Goth friends.
Posted by: Miklos Molnarius


You don't professionalize unless you Vandalize.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:41 PM (IqV8l)

332 Leonard Bernstein!

Posted by: R.E.M. at November 19, 2017 11:42 PM (GsAUU)

333 Lefty Lenny

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:43 PM (IqV8l)

334 Dmitri Shostakovich!

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 11:44 PM (lmPMy)

335 Vandals?

Beware the Arian Nation.

Posted by: St. Athanasius the Great at November 19, 2017 11:44 PM (GsAUU)

336 332
Leonard Bernstein!

Posted by: R.E.M. at November 19, 2017 11:42 PM (GsAUU)

He was radically chic.

Posted by: Tom Wolfe at November 19, 2017 11:45 PM (zCyNd)

337 Be interesting to see how they work out the engineering . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo is moving on to boring people about physics at November 19, 2017 11:40 PM (6FqZa)


In the UK they experimented in putting in short range receivers/repeaters in customers' homes to avoid laying phone cable, and to allow the use of frequencies that were not otherwise useful for phone and data communication because of obstruction.

No idea what happened with that, but it probably is not more expensive than my local phone company that put in fiber and then put a large battery in every customer's home to power the system.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:47 PM (2K6fY)

338 Jules has 'Madame Sec." on. There is a character that is so lesbian/butch I mentioned it. J is just used them mainstreaming this crap she wonders why I'm bothered.

It's this insidious crap that's killing our society. Yikes!

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 11:36

This show is now hysterical, re" the global warming nuts.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 11:47 PM (yJ1e6)

339 It's all propaganda.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 11:49 PM (lmPMy)

340 338 Jules has 'Madame Sec." on. There is a character that is so lesbian/butch I mentioned it. J is just used them mainstreaming this crap she wonders why I'm bothered.

It's this insidious crap that's killing our society. Yikes!

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 11:36

This show is now hysterical, re" the global warming nuts.





Jules, you know I got your back, but I can't get behind that greasy hot dog-eating Neanderthal ma'fucka

Posted by: J-ROC at November 19, 2017 11:49 PM (GsAUU)

341 Continental Drip Divide.

(Last night I dreamt at Knox.)

my alma mater.

anyway...do you remember that the 2nd 'Fantasia' had Rhapsody in Blue as one of their segments? and that it's animated with art by the likes of charles ADAMS from the New Yorker as well as others?

here's a link to that one: https://tinyurl.com/hqd29mz

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:49 PM (9mZIr)

342 Beware the Arian Nation.

Posted by: St. Athanasius the Great at November 19, 2017 11:44 PM (GsAUU)

Posted by: St. Athanasius the Great at November 19, 2017 11:44 PM (GsAUU)


We condemn thee, you Homoiousian!!

Posted by: Council of Nicaea at November 19, 2017 11:49 PM (zCyNd)

343 @322: "I don't like the idea of NFL Network or MLB Network carrying most of or even the most important games."

Baseball is a good example. They makes tons and tons of money from regional sports networks. That's how they can afford giving players those nine figure contracts. You'd never know it by listening to sports pundits though. They keep saying baseball is dying, and yes, nationally, it's not as strong as it used to be, but regionally, it's stronger than ever.

Baseball's streaming technology (MLB Advanced Media) is way ahead of everyone else too. They actually power the backend for ESPN's streaming app and HBO too. Yes, HBO. Weird, I know.

They offer you both home and away broadcasts for each game. They have much better blackout rules than football, and beginning last year, you can actually stream live games in market. They offer condensed games after broadcast that remove commercials and any breaks in game action. You can go back and watch any game from the entire season.

Again, it's becoming a brave new world for all these guys; big leagues, content producers, network distributors, etc. Topsy turvy stuff. Some leagues will handle it better than others. Some networks will too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:51 PM (I/iGu)

344 ESPN is hemorrhaging and I for one will not hand them a band-aid.


Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
---
I vote for a tourniquet around their neck, and keep in place until all bleeding stops.


Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 11:52 PM (tmycC)

345 Waves at farmer! Nice to see you T!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at November 19, 2017 11:52 PM (mMeIQ)

346 If the MEU really raided Langley for the Clinton archives Drudge would have his bubble gum machine up.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 11:52 PM (lmPMy)

347 We condemn thee, you Homoiousian!!
Posted by: Council of Nicaea at November 19, 2017 11:49 PM (zCyNd)



Whatever. I've been vindicated.

Roma locuta est, muthafucka.



Posted by: St. Athanasius the Great at November 19, 2017 11:53 PM (GsAUU)

348 Jules has 'Madame Sec." on. There is a character that is so lesbian/butch I mentioned it. J is just used them mainstreaming this crap she wonders why I'm bothered.



Madame Dyke was originally generated by a bunch of dykes women in the run up to the "historic"* Presidency of a woman.

Since, praise God, that shit didn't happen, they had to find another raison d'etre.

*"Historic" in this case sees a confluence between the Oldspeak and Newspeak senses, viz., "unprecedented," and "not worth a shit," respectively.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:53 PM (YqDXo)

349 Ack!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:54 PM (YqDXo)

350 Strike that

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 11:54 PM (IqV8l)

351 Try again.

Madame Dyke was originally generated by a bunch of dykes women in the run up to the "historic"* Presidency of a woman.

Since, praise God, that shit didn't happen, they had to find another raison d'etre.

*"Historic" in this case sees a confluence between the Oldspeak and Newspeak senses, viz., "unprecedented," and "not worth a shit," respectively.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:54 PM (YqDXo)

352 re "stage names".... i've been "redc1c4" for so long (mid-90s) that a whole bunch of people call me that, or, more often "red", IRL.

i guess i'm a little Hollywood too, just like all my asshole neighbors.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 11:55 PM (tmycC)

353 That's a lot of strikethrough.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 11:55 PM (ycWCI)

354 Anywhere else in my life if I asked a question about the monophysites, I'd get told that I should check a geology text.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 11:55 PM (2K6fY)

355 booknlass, I did not know they redid Fantasia in 2000.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 11:55 PM (4ZKcy)

356 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news

http://politicalhat.com/?p=14159

Posted by: The Political Hat at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (itfg0)

357 Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:51 PM (I/iGu)

I love MLB.TV.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (YqDXo)

358 @327: "Be interesting to see how they work out the engineering . . ."

It's funny 'cause AT&T used to offer in-home repeaters for mobile users in weak signal areas. You'd hook them up to your internet service. It wasn't a good solution though. The tech wasn't quite there yet, unstable, there were wonky regulation issues too, and of course, you had to buy the repeater, and it wasn't cheap.

I'd guess there will be more "mesh network" type technologies going forward. Fewer big signal towers in urban and suburban areas. More small radius transmitters that work cooperatively. The technology is evolving quickly.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (I/iGu)

359 351 Try again.

Madame Dyke was originally generated by a bunch of dykes women in the run up to the "historic"* Presidency of a woman.

Since, praise God, that shit didn't happen, they had to find another raison d'etre.

*"Historic" in this case sees a confluence between the Oldspeak and Newspeak senses, viz., "unprecedented," and "not worth a shit," respectively.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:54 PM (YqDXo)

--I'm so stupid I don't even remember that there was a black female Secretary of State less than five years before.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (GsAUU)

360 353 That's a lot of strikethrough.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 11:55 PM (ycWCI)



I'm on strike, h8ter!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (YqDXo)

361 when neither /pol/ nor The_Donald had anything on that earlier today, i knew the MEU/CIA story was bullshit.

and why would you send the Marines anyway? it just didn't pass the smell test. someone was trolling.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 11:57 PM (tmycC)

362 Doesn't matter. New computer, still can't post. My phone, no problem Ugh!

Posted by: JROD High Testosterone Conservative at November 19, 2017 11:57 PM (1I8EA)

363 The warning unheeded.

https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status
/932424982793031680

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 11:57 PM (zOpu5)

364 If Yokasta M. and Kevin Spacey swapped brains, would anybody be able to tell the difference?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 11:57 PM (/qEW2)

365 357 Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 11:51 PM (I/iGu)

I love MLB.TV.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (YqDXo)

--Intentional Walk is a hoot.

It's what Pardon the Interruption wants to be.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:58 PM (GsAUU)

366 Tsunami alert for East Australia and nearby areas. A 7.0 earthquake apparently struck just off New Caledonia.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 11:58 PM (cSguU)

367 A few weeks ago I heard a great reading of the Shostakovitch Tenth, a piece I had tolerated three times before. Young gun changed the pacing, looked at it a whole new way, didn't play it as just the blood in the ears from getting side-armed by Stalin.

Thing was, this young gun is the regular conductor of the symphony orchestra of...Edmonton, Alberta.

Saturday night, my orchestra had a more traditional program, with another guest conductor, great big young fella with a lot of Viking vigor. And he turns out to be the regular conductor at...Calgary, Alberta.

Alberta has over 4 million people, so I can understand supporting several orchestras. Bet the road trips are grueling though, in Medicine Hat and Peace River.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 11:58 PM (H5rtT)

368 *"Historic" in this case sees a confluence
between the Oldspeak and Newspeak senses, viz., "unprecedented," and
"not worth a shit," respectively.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:53 PM (YqDXo)

Remember! Strike through the text!

Posted by: Mr. Miyagi at November 19, 2017 11:58 PM (zCyNd)

369 --I'm so stupid I don't even remember that there was a black female Secretary of State less than five years before.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 11:56 PM (GsAUU)



She didn't count because she identified as a white male.

H8ter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 11:58 PM (YqDXo)

370 Infidel, I'm watching that segment again. I'd forgotten it til we were talking about the Rhapsody....

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 11:58 PM (9mZIr)

371 Just got back from a pleasant evening of throwing stabby things...

Posted by: The Stabby Hat at November 20, 2017 12:00 AM (itfg0)

372 if you're bored, do a Bing image search for "Gale Storm spanked"... most results appeared to be SFW...

and, before you go there, it was one of the options when i did a regular search on her... really.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2017 12:00 AM (tmycC)

373 geoffb, not quite a lightening bolt in church, but not bad. What a couple of losers.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:01 AM (4ZKcy)

374 Comcast is a good example too.

Most people don't know this, but if you rent one of their cable modem / wireless router combos, then it broadcasts a secondary, publicly accessible network by default. That's the whole "xfinitywifi" hotspot thing.

"With millions of hotspots, you can stay connected at your favorite places!"

Yes, because many of those public hotspots are actually full paying private customers who live above your favorite restaurants and coffeeshops, and your borrowing their wifi with Xfinity's blessing.

Sure, you can turn off the secondary network, but I doubt many people do.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:02 AM (I/iGu)

375 @359 --I'm so stupid I don't even remember that there was a black female Secretary of State less than five years before.
----------------

If someone wanted to run with it, they could probably get a lot of conspiracy mileage out of the fact that in such a short period of time we had two black female Sec State with the same last name.

Posted by: junior at November 20, 2017 12:03 AM (cSguU)

376 Mystery of Life? Is that a rare photo of Gary Larson?

Posted by: Downcast at November 20, 2017 12:03 AM (0m0zi)

377 371 Just got back from a pleasant evening of throwing stabby things...
Posted by: The Stabby Hat at November 20, 2017 12:00 AM (itfg0)

You were throwing OJ Simpson?!

*rimshot*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 12:03 AM (ycWCI)

378 Shoe on Head is sooooooooooooooooo cute. That is all.

Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2017 12:04 AM (QCc6B)

379 Comcast / Xfinity are the same company for those who don't know. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:05 AM (I/iGu)

380 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932325390189809668

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932325484142252037

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932325587531845634

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932325704598982657

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932325807019655168

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932325909469818882

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:07 AM (eh0Va)

381 Jules, you know I got your back, but I can't get behind that greasy hot dog-eating Neanderthal ma'fucka

Posted by: J-ROC at November 19, 2017 11:49

LMAO, be well.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 20, 2017 12:07 AM (yJ1e6)

382 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932328169473966080

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932326427004981253

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932326552561471490

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932326666097053696

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932326777841770505

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932326915071008768


Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:09 AM (eh0Va)

383 XFINITY® WiFi by Comcast | Wireless Internet on the Go

That's the official title.

Anyways, weird stuff, and I gotta say, probably incredibly vulnerable to being spoofed by creative individuals.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:10 AM (I/iGu)

384 All demon crats are traitors..!!

Posted by: me at November 20, 2017 12:10 AM (2QMXd)

385 381 Jules, you know I got your back, but I can't get behind that greasy hot dog-eating Neanderthal ma'fucka

Posted by: J-ROC at November 19, 2017 11:49

LMAO, be well.
Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 20, 2017 12:07 AM (yJ1e6)

--You've never seen Trailer Park Boys, have you? :lol;

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:11 AM (GsAUU)

386 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932327032066785280

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932327153601040384

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932327308232462336

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932328048665485316

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932328258372341760

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/932328355910897664

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:11 AM (eh0Va)

387 And another thing......(totally OT)

When did we get into the loathsome habit of calling former officeholders by their last office title, as if it were a permanent mark of status?
Why on earth should Hillary be styled "Secretary Clinton?"
She isn't Sec of State anymore.
Why was Gary Johnson called "Governor Johnson" in 2016?
Must we forever refer to pedo Harry as "Senator Reid?"

When Jefferson left the WH, he immediately became MR. Jefferson. This was the case for all of the early presidents.
But then, they were trying to leave behind pretensions to nobility.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 12:11 AM (0jtPF)

388 Now that I cut NFL games, pregame and postgame hype shows, it gives me lots of time to search, save, and post the boob pics, so there are more boob pics on Sundays.

Everybody Wins!

Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (eh0Va)

389 @387: "But then, they were trying to leave behind pretensions to nobility."

Makes me wonder if the "former highest title" thing spread from president on down or up from lower offices and how quickly it happened in either direction.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (I/iGu)

390 Everybody Wins!
Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (eh0Va)

Nice. Also, that Melissa Rios is pretty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 20, 2017 12:14 AM (ycWCI)

391 Waves at farmer! Nice to see you T!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow........GNAMM ette at November 19, 2017 11:52

We did have fun. Be well WDS.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 20, 2017 12:16 AM (yJ1e6)

392 Everybody Wins!



Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (eh0Va)


You are a very thoughtful soul.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:17 AM (4ZKcy)

393 Margarita, they really are the pigs of Animal Farm.

Posted by: booknlass at November 20, 2017 12:17 AM (9mZIr)

394 390 Everybody Wins!
Posted by: kbdabear at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (eh0Va)

Hated it!!

Posted by: Men on Film at November 20, 2017 12:19 AM (GsAUU)

395 When Jefferson left the WH, he immediately became MR. Jefferson. This was the case for all of the early presidents.

But then, they were trying to leave behind pretensions to nobility.





Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 12:11 AM (0jtPF)

Maybe the answer is, when the occasion arises to address such people, pointedly call them "ex-Secretary" or "ex-Governor".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2017 12:20 AM (oPNmq)

396 I cannot remember a time when "former highest title" was not the correct protocol. Perhaps we are just interviewing former officials more often. But let's not pretend it's something the networks, or the Obama administration, just came up with. It applied to Acheson and Rusk, the Deans.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2017 12:21 AM (H5rtT)

397 Maybe the answer is, when the occasion arises to address such people, pointedly call them "ex-Secretary" or "ex-Governor".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2017 12:20 AM (oPNmq)

--or ex-drama teacher.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:21 AM (GsAUU)

398 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news
http://politicalhat.com/?p=14159
Posted by: The Political Hat at November 19, 2017 11:56

Thanks Hat. Good meeting you in Vegas. Enjoyed the Atomic Testing Museum especially.

Be well friend.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 20, 2017 12:21 AM (yJ1e6)

399 Booknlass mentioned in the book thread about the new museum of the bible in DC. They have been talking about it on the local radio shows and it sounds interesting. I won't go because I refuse to go to DC with their BS carry laws. What i think would be neat is an ongoing demonstration of illuminated manuscript but haven't heard about that. Maybe have the artist dressed as a monk and using period tools and materials.

Posted by: JTB at November 20, 2017 12:22 AM (V+03K)

400 @395: "... pointedly call them 'ex-Secretary' or 'ex-Governor'."

Kinda gives off a nice "possibly removed from office" vibe.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:22 AM (I/iGu)

401 389
Makes me wonder if the "former highest title" thing spread from president on down or up from lower offices and how quickly it happened in either direction.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (I/iGu)
------------------------

That would make a great PhD dissertation topic.

(That is, it would make a great 20 page paper--- but it could be bloviated into 400 pages of tedious mediocrity.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 12:22 AM (0jtPF)

402 399 Booknlass mentioned in the book thread about the new museum of the bible in DC. They have been talking about it on the local radio shows and it sounds interesting. I won't go because I refuse to go to DC with their BS carry laws. What i think would be neat is an ongoing demonstration of illuminated manuscript but haven't heard about that. Maybe have the artist dressed as a monk and using period tools and materials.
Posted by: JTB at November 20, 2017 12:22 AM (V+03K)

--I've been to Trinity University.

The Book of Kells is one thing, but I geeked out at the humble marker for the Student T Test.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:23 AM (GsAUU)

403 Makes me wonder if the "former highest title" thing
spread from president on down or up from lower offices and how quickly
it happened in either direction.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:13 AM (I/iGu
---
isn't there a Chief Justice of SCOTUS who is buried under his veteran's tombstone as a PFC?

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2017 12:24 AM (tmycC)

404
That would make a great PhD dissertation topic.



(That is, it would make a great 20 page paper--- but it could be bloviated into 400 pages of tedious mediocrity.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 12:22 AM (0jtPF)

Which would be appropriate, as most of the individuals involved are tedious mediocrities.

Posted by: Mr. Miklos at November 20, 2017 12:25 AM (zCyNd)

405
Maybe the answer is, when the occasion arises to address such people, pointedly call them "ex-Secretary" or "ex-Governor".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


"Impeached-President"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2017 12:25 AM (IqV8l)

406 (That is, it would make a great 20 page paper--- but it could be bloviated into 400 pages of tedious mediocrity.)
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 12:22 AM (0jtPF)

--My dissertation is a humble ~150 pages.

Stephen Nash's is famously only about 25.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:26 AM (GsAUU)

407 I wonder what honorific is used in the Federal pen?


Will Corine Brown be addressed as "Congresswoman Brown" or "Congresswoman 736496"?

Posted by: Mr. Miklos Molnar at November 20, 2017 12:29 AM (zCyNd)

408 There was actually a Disney film with male cows.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 20, 2017 12:29 AM (/qEW2)

409 @404: "... tedious mediocrities."

Good name for a cover band with the right set list.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:30 AM (I/iGu)

410 396 I cannot remember a time when "former highest title" was not the correct protocol. Perhaps we are just interviewing former officials more often. But let's not pretend it's something the networks, or the Obama administration, just came up with. It applied to Acheson and Rusk, the Deans.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2017 12:21 AM (H5rtT)
----------------------------
I never said this was brand new, much less blamed it on Obama! It's been the custom as long as I can remember.
But it was NOT the custom in the early years of the Republic. Not at all.
I suspect it's a 20th century thing. Maybe late 19th.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 20, 2017 12:30 AM (0jtPF)

411 Will Corine Brown be addressed as "Congresswoman Brown" or "Congresswoman 736496"?
Posted by: Mr. Miklos Molnar at November 20, 2017 12:29 AM (zCyNd)

--Corrine Brown will be addressed as "Go Gata, Bitch"

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:30 AM (GsAUU)

412 Dissertations on the history of diplomatic protocols were both more detailed and more closely read when there were muslim potentates in Spain and Sicily. One simply did not mis-translate "re-set" with them dudes.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 20, 2017 12:31 AM (H5rtT)

413 JTB, I went to the Museum of the Bible's website this morning, and one of their exhibits is of the Christmas story in illuminations.

Breitbart had a cool flythrough video simulation tour of the place i enjoyed.

and did you hear about the ride? where they simulate a trip through D.C. seeing many Biblical quotes on the buildings there? I'd love to go

Posted by: booknlass at November 20, 2017 12:33 AM (9mZIr)

414 Posted by: JTB at November 20, 2017 12:22

I'd like to meet you and the Mrs. someday. You sound like cool folks. If you ever head up to WI again maybe we can meet up sometime on the way in IL.

Be well.
T

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 20, 2017 12:34 AM (yJ1e6)

415 i've spent the day with you all. thanks for the company!

goodnight

Posted by: booknlass at November 20, 2017 12:37 AM (9mZIr)

416 Well, bed time for this Peon. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2017 12:37 AM (oPNmq)

417 Yup, yup, good night, folks, and good night.

*turns off his light*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:37 AM (I/iGu)

418 Total gibberish that was.

Understand it I do not.

Fucktarded Scott Van Pelt truly is.

Posted by: Yoda at November 20, 2017 12:38 AM (orK+8)

419 Good night, y'all!


The diehards will keep up. . . .

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:39 AM (GsAUU)

420 418 Total gibberish that was.

Understand it I do not.

Fucktarded Scott Van Pelt truly is.
Posted by: Yoda at November 20, 2017 12:38 AM (orK+

--SVP can eat a bag of anuses.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:40 AM (GsAUU)

421 417
Yup, yup, good night, folks, and good night.



*turns off his light*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 12:37 AM (I/iGu)

The lights are going out all over Horderopa...we shall not see them lit again until the EMT.

Posted by: Edward Miklos Grey at November 20, 2017 12:41 AM (zCyNd)

422 Didn't sleep much last night, don't expect much tonight either.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:42 AM (4ZKcy)

423 Sounds like a lot of Morons want to be rested fro work tomorrow

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2017 12:43 AM (3/sUh)

424 423
Sounds like a lot of Morons want to be rested fro work tomorrow

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 20, 2017 12:43 AM (3/sUh)

Irony is for hipsters.

Posted by: Trix are for kids at November 20, 2017 12:44 AM (zCyNd)

425 Work? I wish. Still on the hunt. Have a panel interview this week. I hate those.

At least my BP is much lower that it was a few hrs ago.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:46 AM (4ZKcy)

426 Just put on No Country for Old Men. Never watched it before. Any good?

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:51 AM (4ZKcy)

427 Manson is finally dead. Asshole.

Posted by: NCKate at November 20, 2017 12:52 AM (Jj68o)

428 426 Just put on No Country for Old Men. Never watched it before. Any good?
Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:51 AM (4ZKcy)

--The story is good. Morons and others have debated the moral message on and on.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:53 AM (GsAUU)

429 The War on Poland:

http://www.unz.com/article/the-national-question-
and-the-war-on-poland/

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 12:55 AM (GsAUU)

430 Who's this Van Pelt asshole?
ESPN? That's that mindless shit they have muted on TV's in bars right?

Honestly why don't they play some quality programing on TV's in bars, like the Lingerie Football League or a Victoria's Secret fashion show or women's beach volleyball or NFL cheerleader practices. Quality programing that stimulates the senses and the mind.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 20, 2017 12:56 AM (QMwOT)

431 I think there was a spin off that came out last year... on November 8th.

No Country for Old Women

That was better.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at November 20, 2017 12:56 AM (orK+8)

432 431:

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 20, 2017 12:57 AM (QMwOT)

433 I jus want tosay that I'm too frunk to be postng here.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 20, 2017 12:59 AM (vChNs)

434 At least my BP is much lower that it was a few hrs ago.


Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:46 AM (4ZKcy)

Beaver Pelt?/S

Posted by: X-ray at November 20, 2017 01:00 AM (VDQek)

435 seagrams 7 without the 7up

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 20, 2017 01:00 AM (vChNs)

436 435 seagrams 7 without the 7up
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 20, 2017 01:00 AM (vChNs)

--Cheap-ass rum for me

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 01:02 AM (GsAUU)

437 Just beer here.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:05 AM (4ZKcy)

438 Gonna be a slow quiet night I guess.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:09 AM (4ZKcy)

439 No Country for Old Men:

It's strange. The ending is very odd, and more abrupt than True Grit. I've watched it maybe three times regardless.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 20, 2017 01:12 AM (rnAwa)

440 You want to read books when you could be watching me make a Sarah Palin joke for the umpteenth time!? Man bro, What a dum dum you are.

Posted by: Scott Van Pelt at November 20, 2017 01:13 AM (SkuXa)

441 Profundities Of The Nite (alt. title -- thinkin' and drinkin', but mostly drinkin')

With all of the chunking of the Clintons under the bus, or also into a van in the case of Hillary --

HRCWNBPOTUS

May she one day be prosecuted; I hold no illusions that she can be Convicted of Anything.

But a lengthy trial would be nice.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 01:13 AM (0ogQG)

442 375 @359 --I'm so stupid I don't even remember that there was a black female Secretary of State less than five years before.
----------------

If someone wanted to run with it, they could probably get a lot of conspiracy mileage out of the fact that in such a short period of time we had two black female Sec State with the same last name.

Posted by: junior at November 20, 2017 12:03 AM (cSguU)

++++

Nope. I guess you are thinking of Condi and Susan Rice. But, Condi was the only one of the two to serve as SoS. However, they did both serve as NSA.

Susan was also Obama's UN Ambassador during his first term.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 20, 2017 01:13 AM (pvjTE)

443 Who's this Van Pelt asshole?

Lucy and Linus nicknamed him "Rerun".

Posted by: Blanco Basura at November 20, 2017 01:15 AM (IcT7t)

444 439 No Country for Old Men:



It's strange. The ending is very odd, and more abrupt than True Grit. I've watched it maybe three times regardless.

Posted by: BourbonChicken


One of the best bad guys ever. He's s m o o t h, and random. And totally convincing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 01:16 AM (0ogQG)

445 Gnubreed, he seems like a sick-o.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:17 AM (4ZKcy)

446 426 Just put on No Country for Old Men. Never watched it before. Any good?

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 12:51 AM (4ZKcy)

++++

Hell yes!

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 20, 2017 01:18 AM (pvjTE)

447 Manson is finally dead. Asshole.

Posted by: NCKate at November 20, 2017 12:52 AM (Jj68o)


Really, that's what all the grinding and sparks were from. Satan was sharpening his barbs.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at November 20, 2017 01:20 AM (aMlLZ)

448 Tommy Lee is driving mu truck. Except White 3/4 ton.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:21 AM (4ZKcy)

449 The first 10 amendments to the Constitution are called "The Bill of ______" ... representative Decker... anyone?

Posted by: An Observation at November 20, 2017 01:21 AM (8XJjx)

450 445 Gnubreed, he seems like a sick-o.


Posted by: Infidel


Absolutely. But I mentioned 'random'. Death is like that. Sometimes it comes out of the blue, with little to warning.

The Reaper with human agency.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 01:22 AM (0ogQG)

451 Guess y'all are stuck with my narrative for a while.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:25 AM (4ZKcy)

452 Is it hot in here or is it just me?

Posted by: Zombie Charles Manson at November 20, 2017 01:25 AM (SkuXa)

453 I wonder how much it cost the taxpayers to keep Manson alive all these years? It would have been way cheaper to just plug a stick of dynamite in his ass and toss him out of a plane for a spectacular airburst.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at November 20, 2017 01:27 AM (aMlLZ)

454 Manson dead? About fucking time, like two death sentences ago.

Let me take this opportunity to send a great big Fuck You Very Much to CA for their fucked up death penalty policies. That asshole drew air for at least 40 years too long.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 01:27 AM (0ogQG)

455 No Country for Old Men:

It's strange. The ending is very odd, and more abrupt than True Grit. I've watched it maybe three times regardless.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Up and down.
The key scene in my opinion, is when the Tommy Lee Jones character goes out to visit his crippled uncle (?) Barry Corbin, who was a lawman too.
"The future is comin', and it's pure vanity if you think you can stop it"
Or something like that.
A lot of weird, scary scenes. Random death and murder. That's what Barry was talking about.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 20, 2017 01:29 AM (S6Pax)

456 Wondering what this rube is doing with the tent poles. He doesn't seem too stupid so far.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:36 AM (4ZKcy)

457 Manson dead? About fucking time, like two death sentences ago.

Let me take this opportunity to send a great big Fuck You Very Much to CA for their fucked up death penalty policies. That asshole drew air for at least 40 years too long.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 01:27 AM (0ogQG)


For once, this isn't California's fault.

He was sentenced to death, but his sentence was commuted automatically when SCOTUS (briefly) said the death penalty was Unconstitutional.

After it became legal again, the California Supreme Court under Rose Byrd (appointed by Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown) said that the death penalty in all forms was a violation of the state Constitution.

The people responded by amending their Constitution to specifically affirm the acceptability of the death penalty.

Yet Rose Byrd court kept on overturning death penalty cases on "technicalities" until the voters kicked her and two other Cal. Supreme Court members out in 1986 in the same election that saw George "Iron Duke" Dukmeijian re-elected by massive margins.

Posted by: The Executioner's Hat at November 20, 2017 01:37 AM (itfg0)

458 That must have been Moonbeam's first term. He's such a , well, I don't need to get banned.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:41 AM (4ZKcy)

459 *looks around the Hieronymus Bosch landscape*

Helter... Skelter ?

Posted by: charles manson's orientation at November 20, 2017 01:44 AM (6FqZa)

460
Manson dead? About fucking time, like two death sentences ago.

As the saying goes.
Manson gonna stay in jail as long as Folgers makes coffee.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 20, 2017 01:44 AM (t6XCL)

461 @458 That must have been Moonbeam's first term. He's such a , well, I don't need to get banned.
-----------------

Yup. Back when California voters still had some sense. I suspect that Moonbeam got into office because his Dad was former governor "Pat" Brown. But the interest didn't survive past his first term.

I've no idea how his current governorship compares with his first term. But he's a check on the more liberal CA state legislatures these days.

Posted by: junior at November 20, 2017 01:49 AM (cSguU)

462 457 The people responded by amending their Constitution to specifically affirm the acceptability of the death penalty.

Yet Rose Byrd court kept on overturning death penalty cases on "technicalities" until the voters kicked her and two other Cal. Supreme Court members out in 1986 in the same election that saw George "Iron Duke" Dukmeijian re-elected by massive margins.

Posted by: The Executioner's Hat


It's true that the CASC killed off a bunch of death penalties for a short time around 1972. And I have my share of disdain for their arrogance as well. But...

It carried out 709 executions from 1778 to the 1972 California Supreme Court decision in People v. Anderson that struck down the state capital punishment statute.[1][2]

California voters reinstated the death penalty a few months later, with Proposition 17 legalizing the death penalty in the state constitution and superseding the Anderson ruling. Since then, hundreds of death sentences have been handed down, but only 13 executions have been carried out, the last one in 2006.

As of 2015, there were 746 offenders on California's death row. Of those, 126 involved torture before murder, 173 killed children, and 44 murdered police officers.


From wiki. My FYVM still stands, to the CA courts.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 01:51 AM (0ogQG)

463 As the saying goes.
Manson gonna stay in jail as long as Folgers makes coffee.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 20, 2017 01:44 AM (t6XCL)


I never really liked that coffee, so I would consider it a two-fer if they stopped making that crap now. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at November 20, 2017 01:51 AM (aMlLZ)

464 What's also funny about the Van Pelt dunce's BS, if you read the full transcript that includes the SI podcast host's response, he acts incredulous that anyone could possibly not watch MNF or other big sports games.

Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble.

Posted by: John Marston at November 20, 2017 01:52 AM (SkuXa)

465 I remember his first term sucked. Folks didn't think his dad was much better. We left after Reagan's terms and before he was elected pres. I think is was Jimmy's first term as prezzy when we moved to CO.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 01:57 AM (4ZKcy)

466 ShoeOnHead is great. I hope she's making a bunch bucks doing that.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2017 02:03 AM (V+b9T)

467 Ack, should have been first year as prezzy.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 02:04 AM (4ZKcy)

468 looking at everyone's drink menu, i'm bummed to report that i'm settling for 50mg of diphenhydramine...

i've been sick as a dog pretty much constantly for the last 5+ weeks now, with GI issues: food poisoning, ABX side effects, recover, more food poisoning, recover, food poisoning again, plus uncontrolled allergies that cause post nasal drip, which leads to gagging, projectile vomiting then dry heaves. enough antihistamines and pseudoephedrine to control that, then my stomach gets queesy from being wired...

FML.

plus i get to go to the VA 1st thing in the morning, which always makes me happy.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2017 02:05 AM (tmycC)

469 Moonbeam sucked as Governor the first time around.

he hasn't gotten better with age.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2017 02:07 AM (tmycC)

470 and, on those cheerful, upbeat notes, i'm for bed.

hasta, y'all!

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 20, 2017 02:08 AM (tmycC)

471 Night all.

Here is "Louis IX" by Overdrive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBy4kgA4x78

Posted by: The Over-Hat at November 20, 2017 02:11 AM (itfg0)

472 I hate everything! But I'd love to put people like you in the ground.

Posted by: Governor Brown at November 20, 2017 02:15 AM (SkuXa)

473 468 i've been sick as a dog pretty much constantly for the last 5+ weeks
now, with GI issues: food poisoning, ABX side effects, recover, more
food poisoning, recover, food poisoning again, plus uncontrolled
allergies that cause post nasal drip


redc1c4, food poisoning 3 times in 5 weeks? As is my nature, color me skeptical. I've had possible cases of it 3 times in 40 years.

And I can't be sure of any of those 3. They all did occur 'off premises'. Then again, I'm pretty finicky in my cooking habits.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 20, 2017 02:18 AM (0ogQG)

474 Dude, where the heal are you eating. That doesn't sound right.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 02:22 AM (4ZKcy)

475 Hell. I'm not laying off the beer yet!

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 02:24 AM (4ZKcy)

476 Self surgery, well, that's nice.

I fkn hate needles.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 02:29 AM (4ZKcy)

477 Guess it's almost time for the early EMT.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 02:39 AM (4ZKcy)

478 Manson dead. MOAR WINNING!

Posted by: sinalco at November 20, 2017 02:41 AM (yODqO)

479 That's excellent news about Manson.

I never understood the cult that grew up around him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2017 02:41 AM (wYseH)

480 That's excellent news about Manson.


About damn time.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 02:43 AM (4ZKcy)

481 It's getting awful hot in here. Somebody turn the heat down? Anybody?

Posted by: Charlie M at November 20, 2017 03:12 AM (EZEoL)

482 I never understood the cult that grew up around him.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 20, 2017 02:41 AM (wYseH)

Drugs felt better than Mommy & Daddy & real life.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at November 20, 2017 03:19 AM (GzDYP)

483 Charlie, good news, pineapple is on the breakfast menu!

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2017 03:20 AM (4ZKcy)

484 he acts incredulous that anyone could possibly not watch MNF or other big sports games.

He's a classicist. These are The Great Works, as well as anything by Bob Costas.

Posted by: t-bird at November 20, 2017 03:27 AM (tIhIY)

485
The SOB,
along with the rest of his gang, should already be dead.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 20, 2017 03:42 AM (mpXpK)

486 I just got home after a trip through the mountains in a snow storm, which turned a seven-hour trip into an 11 1/2-hr trip;

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 03:58 AM (nBr1j)

487 486 I just got home after a trip through the mountains in a snow storm, which turned a seven-hour trip into an 11 1/2-hr trip;
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 03:58 AM (nBr1j)

--Which mountains?

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:19 AM (GsAUU)

488 Good morning all. Feeling pretty blech

Posted by: Tickled Pink at November 20, 2017 04:22 AM (smD62)

489 Master and Commander is on HBO Zone, on last chapter of 1st book
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2017 04:25 AM (aC6Sd)

490
Wow! Great morning. Manson dead. NYT ponders "Was Ken Starr Right?" and Kathy Griffith is unemployable.

A trifecta of #winning.

Now all we need is for a bunched of unsealed indictments to be released today. With photo ops of Clinton minions being perp-walked away.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 04:26 AM (ajiE5)

491 487 486 I just got home after a trip through the mountains in a snow storm, which turned a seven-hour trip into an 11 1/2-hr trip;
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 03:58 AM (nBr1j)

--Which mountains?
Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:19 AM (GsAUU)

The Rockie Mountains. Drove from Kelowna to Calgary.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 04:27 AM (nBr1j)

492 It is a very good morning, beat down in Dales last night and Charles Manso is mort

Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2017 04:28 AM (aC6Sd)

493 The Rockie Mountains. Drove from Kelowna to Calgary.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 04:27 AM (nBr1j)

--Not an easy drive, but damn, I'm envious because that is a beautiful route IMO.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:30 AM (GsAUU)

494
Yup, 9-1 feels really good Skip.

Not counting chickens yet. Just looking around and getting a rough head count. There's a lot of 'em.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 04:31 AM (ajiE5)

495 493 The Rockie Mountains. Drove from Kelowna to Calgary.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 04:27 AM (nBr1j)

--Not an easy drive, but damn, I'm envious because that is a beautiful route IMO.
Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:30 AM (GsAUU)

Beautiful indeed, but not so much at night with heavy snow in Rogers Pass.

Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 04:32 AM (nBr1j)

496 I mentioned earlier Crow's Nest Pass.

The whole TCH from Yoho to Calgary is gorgeous.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:33 AM (GsAUU)

497
Beautiful indeed, but not so much at night with heavy snow in Rogers Pass.
Posted by: Northernlurker, the lurkingest lurker of the north. Still proudly lurking. at November 20, 2017 04:32 AM (nBr1j)

--Yeah, sucks at night. The natural beauty is no consolation.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:34 AM (GsAUU)

498 As I wrote the other day the Devil himself probably greeted Manson at the gate of Hell

Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2017 04:36 AM (aC6Sd)

499 So Chucky Manson croaked?

Well, he may yet get that race war he was jonesin' for.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 04:38 AM (GsAUU)

500 I hate snow, have no use for it and it just causes me work.

Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2017 04:39 AM (aC6Sd)

501 Manson's dead?

I'll bet the recidivism rate in Hell is pretty close to zero.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2017 04:41 AM (wPiJc)

502
I figured out exactlyhow to watch the game last night... slept through the first half, then woke up to watch 30 unanswered points. Sweet. Interceptions, 2 point conversions, big plays.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 04:41 AM (ajiE5)

503 How long until the Left lionizes Manson?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2017 04:42 AM (wPiJc)

504 How long until the Left lionizes Manson?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2017 04:42 AM (wPiJc)


They're so busy cannibalizing each other I'm not sure if they'll have time.

It's all fallin' apart, man. It's all fallin' apart.

Which was a line from the movie 'Car Wash' -- a 1976 movie which pretty much predicted every craziness which has washed over us in the past 20 years. The gayness, the 'transitioning', the Muslim, the Monica Lewinsky type, the 'pop bottle bomber'.

Like it was a 'how to' manual for the left.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 04:47 AM (ajiE5)

505 New York Times - Op Ed

What If Ken Starr Was Right?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/18/opinion/sunday
/what-if-ken-starr-was-right.html?src=twr

The left wakes up from a 20 year slumber, rubs eyes, and discovers Bill Clinton was a bad man, a very bad man. Who should have resigned in disgrace.

Better late than never, I guess. It's just been very tiring listening to obvious partisan bullshit for two decades. I guess in the age of daily purges of sexual predators, they could no longer claim, ''It's all about the sex!''

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 04:57 AM (ajiE5)

506 Why are you laughing? All I said was the cow picture is utterly ridiculous.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 20, 2017 04:59 AM (e1mEI)

507 Rush started it and others blogged about the same that Bill is being given up to go after President Trump

Posted by: Skip at November 20, 2017 05:01 AM (aC6Sd)

508
The left has treated their sacred cow of Bill Clinton with more respect than a devout Hindu.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 05:04 AM (ajiE5)

509 Better late than never, I guess. It's just been very tiring listening to obvious partisan bullshit for two decades. I guess in the age of daily purges of sexual predators, they could no longer claim, ''It's all about the sex!''
Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 04:57 AM (ajiE5)

--Fuck them and the horse they rode in on (pun absolutely intended). The sad thing is that their immigrant peons will vote for them come Helen Reddy or high water.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 05:11 AM (GsAUU)

510
He's a classicist. These are The Great Works, as well as anything by Bob Costas.


Costas' Pink Eyed Lady was a classic for the ages!

Boob tube dependant mocks former audience for shutting off boob tube - that'll bring 'em back.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2017 05:24 AM (pNxlR)

511 510
He's a classicist. These are The Great Works, as well as anything by Bob Costas.

Costas' Pink Eyed Lady was a classic for the ages!

Boob tube dependant mocks former audience for shutting off boob tube - that'll bring 'em back.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2017 05:24 AM (pNxlR)

--The Big Rat is way too fat.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 05:26 AM (GsAUU)

512 "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 05:28 AM (GsAUU)

513
I guess the "Makeup" app hasn't been put to the acid test by applying it to pictures of clowns.

Or perhaps it has and every make-free clown was revealed to be... Satan! * dun da dunh! *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 20, 2017 05:37 AM (pNxlR)

514 The left wakes up from a 20 year slumber, rubs eyes, and discovers Bill Clinton was a bad man, a very bad man. Who should have resigned in disgrace.
_____________________

Wonder what they'll be saying about their chocolate god Barry in a few decades.

"Hmmmm. Maybe destroying the rule of law wasn't such a great accomplishment after all . . . ."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2017 05:48 AM (fqUgw)

515 ESPN, SVP, et al are scared to friggin death at the thought of a la carte cable.

No ... the network would not go away. But it would sure as hell get much smaller. Lose some channels.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 05:51 AM (yhYmR)

516 good morning glories

so, Democrats have seen the light, Clinton and Weinstein and half the party should surrender all their power. They were predators the whole time. Finally, now we can build the wall, put America First, and start incarcerating the NY/DC treasonous mafia.

I guess that means we will hear of mass resignations by Obama holdovers that are saboteurs in the Trump administration. This should be a great week.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2017 05:52 AM (/aIFg)

517 Back home last night from a great trip to Nashville.

Let me tell ya, being 333 feet underground for a concert is an experience.
Especially when the players are really players and you're 5th row, center.

Don't know how close we were to the tornado we were while we were driving back to Nashville afterwards but going by the weather reports and the rain we drove through at one point,,, close enough.

And still can't believe I woke up Sunday morning to find out my Cats had beaten Ok State,,, especially having to start a third string quarterback,,, who also go knocked out of the game.

Posted by: teej at November 20, 2017 05:58 AM (RQEuo)

518 oh, and this just in ... all that plastic in the oceans YOU have been accused of putting their, you capitalist colonialist Western pigs. Well 95% comes from ten rivers ... eight in Asia, two in Africa.

"No way, that can't possibly be politically correct"

https://twitter.com/lucianwintrich/status/
932383361074544641

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2017 05:58 AM (/aIFg)

519 ESPN, SVP, et al are scared to friggin death at the thought of a la carte cable.
No ... the network would not go away. But it would sure as hell get much smaller. Lose some channels.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 05:51 AM (yhYmR)


Not the answer. ESPN charges PER SUBSCRIBER. If Verizon has 10 million customers for instance, ESPN charges a 'head tax' for each and every one of them - whether they view ESPN, subscribe to ESPN, or not. A la carte cable won't fix that.

Streaming and over-the-air antenna systems are the only way to kill the beast. Save yourself some money. A very nice pile of money. Invest in an antenna and become familiar with streaming. You won't regret it.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 05:58 AM (ajiE5)

520 As I don't watch ESPN and don't even have a working TV-Except for CDs for movies, I don't know who Scott Van Pelt is. However, except when the power goes out I'm not reading by candlelight, and have somehow managed to function without cable for my entire life except when I watch Turner Classic movies in a hotel room, Also, if Mr. Van Pelt doesn't want to pray for someone whom he thinks is too stupid and hopeless because they gave up cable and ESPN he has a shallow view of prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2017 06:07 AM (8+Ozj)

521
We've let the politicians know for at least a decade we want a la carte cable and they've patronized us and done nothing. It's never going to happen.

There are so many inexpensive 'toys' out there that can be hooked up to over-the-air antenna that have most of the functionality of a Tivo. Put a TV Guide app on your phone for a program guide. Program an incredibly inexpensive PVR with a super fast flash drive (or two or three for the price) for weekly recording. FF through commercials. Pause, rewind, 2X, 4X, 8X, 16X, 32X playback and rewind.

Buy an Amazon FireStick (cheap) and subscribe to somebody (Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, etc) to get your feet wet.

Beating the same dead horse of a la carte is not the answer.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 06:10 AM (ajiE5)

522 Not the answer. ESPN charges PER SUBSCRIBER

I would assume ... if I only pay my cable company for what channels I want, and I do not pay for ESPN, my cable company would cease giving ESPN a cut of my check at the next round of negotiations.

ESPN can only charge what they can negotiate. Same as anyone else.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:10 AM (yhYmR)

523 My $39/mo DISH plan doesn't get ESPN, but also doesn't get FOX business. Once they hook up the fiber optic that they ran to my house, HD streaming will be more glorious.

Most of what is worth watching is on the internet ... my new TV has it's own ethernet connection, but haven't explored all the options yet. Lot's of stations for free ... a couple at least just natural views.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2017 06:11 AM (/aIFg)

524 520 As I don't watch ESPN and don't even have a working TV-Except for CDs for movies, I don't know who Scott Van Pelt is. However, except when the power goes out I'm not reading by candlelight, and have somehow managed to function without cable for my entire life except when I watch Turner Classic movies in a hotel room, Also, if Mr. Van Pelt doesn't want to pray for someone whom he thinks is too stupid and hopeless because they gave up cable and ESPN he has a shallow view of prayer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2017 06:07 AM (8+Ozj)

--If you do not know who Scott Van Pelt is, well, you're not missing much.

To be charitable, Van Pelt is the Sean Hannity of sports talk.

In addition to you, FenelonSpoke, the peeps I have praying for me are legion, and I shall document some of the bestest in my novel.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:12 AM (GsAUU)

525 I would pay extra for the data bandwidth, and just drop the cabe entirely, if that were offered.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:16 AM (yhYmR)

526 I see from Fb that Charles Manson is mort at 83.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 06:17 AM (5kNms)

527 526 I see from Fb that Charles Manson is mort at 83.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 06:17 AM (5kNms)

--Good riddance

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:19 AM (GsAUU)

528 I would assume ... if I only pay my cable company for what channels I want, and I do not pay for ESPN, my cable company would cease giving ESPN a cut of my check at the next round of negotiations.

ESPN can only charge what they can negotiate. Same as anyone else.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:10 AM (yhYmR)


Like I said, ESPN charges a $8.00 to $10.00 a month BASE fee per subscriber... every month based on the total number of cable subscribers. If you choose to include ESPN in your package then you pay another fee on top of that.

If a cable company doesn't like it... true, they can negotiate. With the likely outcome that people who really want sports will now be unable to get it... and then change cable companies or do without and kill cable completely. ESPN has the cable companies over the barrel.

I guess it's free market, but it doesn't seem like it. It has the distinct odor of monopolistic behavior.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 06:19 AM (ajiE5)

529 507 Rush started it and others blogged about the same that Bill is being given up to go after President Trump


Yep. This is simply the Clintons being "Stalin-ed" by the Left, except they'll probably live. When they are out of the way, they'll go all in getting rid of Trump. You have to wonder if these practitioners of the Greater Good now the hell they are unleashing? Probably not.



520: he has a shallow view of prayer.


ESPN is shallow.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 20, 2017 06:21 AM (01Fis)

530 >>> --If you do not know who Scott Van Pelt is, well, you're not missing much.

Sure thing, Fredo. The smart people have the cable channels memorized. The numbskulls have a well used library card.

Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2017 06:21 AM (cHbmY)

531
I can think of lots of people as guilty as manson for inciting murder.

Maddow
Sanders
obama
CNN

and many many more.

Posted by: Soothie at November 20, 2017 06:23 AM (Sjuxj)

532 520: he has a shallow view of prayer.


ESPN is shallow.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 20, 2017 06:21 AM (01Fis)

--This just in.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:23 AM (GsAUU)

533 I would pay extra for the data bandwidth, and just drop the cabe entirely, if that were offered.



*fistbump

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2017 06:24 AM (5kNms)

534 Sure thing, Fredo. The smart people have the cable channels memorized. The numbskulls have a well used library card.
Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2017 06:21 AM (cHbmY)

--Is that a slam at me?

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:25 AM (GsAUU)

535

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 20, 2017 06:27 AM (0mskG)

536 Streaming and over-the-air antenna systems are the
only way to kill the beast. Save yourself some money. A very nice pile
of money. Invest in an antenna and become familiar with streaming. You
won't regret it.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 05:58 AM (ajiE5)
A friend just discovered internet streaming. One of his daughters gave him a Roku for his birthday. Now he is at least questioning why he is paying $100 a month for cable....

Posted by: Colin at November 20, 2017 06:27 AM (Zx7KA)

537 I guess it's free market, but it doesn't seem like it. It has the distinct odor of monopolistic behavior.
Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 06:19 AM (ajiE5)


It will break ... unless advertisers and cable companies prop up ESPN in the face of declining ratings - and I do not ignore that possibilty.

But barring that ... ESPN simply will not have the cash to but the television rights to events. And without that - they are back to where they started - a channel that talks about sports more than they show sports.

That channel will not have anyone over a barrel.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:29 AM (yhYmR)

538 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2017 06:30 AM (EyPfd)

539 >>> --Is that a slam at me?

No, Fredo Van Pelt. It was easier to copy from your post than to scroll to the top. I rate his comment at 950 milliKohns.

Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2017 06:31 AM (cHbmY)

540 But barring that ... ESPN simply will not have the cash to but the television rights to events. And without that - they are back to where they started - a channel that talks about sports more than they show sports.

That channel will not have anyone over a barrel.
Posted by: ScoggDog

How do advertisers get the true numbers of people watching the shows? If everybody with a cable package is paying Espn, does Espn count that as people watching? Or if I DVR the show, but FF thru the commercials, how can they tell?

Posted by: Bruce at November 20, 2017 06:32 AM (8ikIW)

541 I rate his comment at 950 milliKohns.

OK if I just use the handy approximation 1 SVP = 1 Kohn ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:33 AM (yhYmR)

542 539 >>> --Is that a slam at me?

No, Fredo Van Pelt. It was easier to copy from your post than to scroll to the top. I rate his comment at 950 milliKohns.
Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2017 06:31 AM (cHbmY)

--LMAO

Linda Kohn has more content in her sixth toes than SVP has in his giant bald head.

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:33 AM (GsAUU)

543 Currently, there's a mutual dependency, and both sides have each other over a barrel.

ESPN doesn't charge cable companies high subscriber fees for ESPN alone.

That's an accounting trick. Most cable companies are forced to take all the random ABC and Disney channels along with ESPN for an undisclosed total package price.

Cable and streaming companies pay Disney different prices too since they negotiate independently.

The subscriber fees you read about are guessed by market researchers based on ratings data and advertised cable prices. It's a guessing game and a shell game to some degree.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 20, 2017 06:35 AM (I/iGu)

544 Linda Kohn has more content in her sixth toes than SVP has in his giant bald head.
Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:33 AM (GsAUU)


Man ... I could really use a moist towellette ...

Posted by: Dick Morris at November 20, 2017 06:36 AM (yhYmR)

545
ESPN may at this time may charge 8 to 10 dollars a subscriber.....but, that won't last forever....especially when people tell their cable companies that they are dropping them due to ESPN becoming the all politics channel.


ESPN was great at one time....really enjoyed sports center highlights etc etc.... they have become bores...


Drop 'em like it's hot.

Posted by: Al Michaels' hairpiece at November 20, 2017 06:37 AM (tDTdL)

546 That channel will not have anyone over a barrel.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:29 AM (yhYmR)


Yeah, they're pretty much screwed. But instead of backing off the left-wing slant -- which pisses off at least half their 'knowing' subscribers -- they've decided to double down and attack them.

Seems the kind of business strategy they'll advise against in business schools in about a decade.

Meanwhile, I guess I'm one of the 'dummies' Scott Van Pelt is talking about. With four televisions streaming, two on both streaming and over-the-air antenna, storage devices hooked up to two televisions, and Netflix, Hulu, Amazon at my fingertips.

No, Scott, you dumb ass. I haven't given up on television. Just cable television and ESPN. Better polish your resume, bud.

The 'acid test' of all this... the wife absolutely loves the system. Yes, there was a learning curve for her. Now? She's a champ.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 06:38 AM (ajiE5)

547 We might grant the steam powered rocket guy (sidebar) the privilege of blasting off and fulfilling his dream, or maybe we won't. Still deciding.

Oh, and we have a decision for citizen #314,509,112 on your request: Yes, you may go to the gas station and fill up your car. You're welcome.

Posted by: Representative Marjorie Decker at November 20, 2017 06:39 AM (ggZRr)

548 The subscriber fees you read about are guessed by market researchers based on ratings data and advertised cable prices. It's a guessing game and a shell game to some degree.
Posted by: Walter Freeman

Wow, that should be illegal!!

...Hillary...

Posted by: Bruce at November 20, 2017 06:40 AM (8ikIW)

549
ESPN was great at one time....really enjoyed sports center highlights etc etc.... they have become bores...


Drop 'em like it's hot.
Posted by: Al Michaels' hairpiece at November 20, 2017 06:37 AM (tDTdL)

--I'm old enough to remember when Keith Olbermann was *funny*

Posted by: logprof at November 20, 2017 06:40 AM (GsAUU)

550 Meanwhile, I guess I'm one of the 'dummies' Scott Van Pelt is talking about.

Rest assured ... will be picking your brain about it. Shit-canning cable while keeping internet is my dream.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:41 AM (yhYmR)

551 The 'acid test' of all this... the wife absolutely loves the system. Yes, there was a learning curve for her. Now? She's a champ.
Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply

This is what is holding me back. Getting the wife to embrace a different system.

Posted by: Bruce at November 20, 2017 06:41 AM (8ikIW)

552 >>> OK if I just use the handy approximation 1 SVP = 1 Kohn ?

It is about as close as pi = 22/7, but I don't think it will be OK for serious design work.

Posted by: fluffy at November 20, 2017 06:42 AM (cHbmY)

553 Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 06:38 AM (ajiE5)

what storage devices do you use to record shows?

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 20, 2017 06:44 AM (hMwEB)

554 In that Orrin Hatch clip, Sherrod Brown smirked--at Senator Hatch, at what Senator Hatch was saying. What a hateful man. You can tell a man by his smirk.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2017 06:46 AM (V+b9T)

555 Rest assured ... will be picking your brain about it. Shit-canning cable while keeping internet is my dream.

Posted by: ScoggDog at November 20, 2017 06:41 AM (yhYmR)

Watch Amazon for their FireStick devices -- over the holidays they almost give them away. For like twenty dollars - one time fee for the device. It's a cheap way to get your feet wet.

From there just about everyone is giving away at least a one week trial membership. With that device you'll have a huge number of actually free programming like YouTube. With YouTube you can access Fox News and a ton of other stuff.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 20, 2017 06:48 AM (ajiE5)

556 Did people see this from James Woods' Twitter feed?-Scroll down about five to a video of a younger Hillary Clinton and Hillary in a TV interview. I admit that I laughed:

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2017 06:49 AM (8+Ozj)

557 556-Meant "younger Hillary Clinton and Bill"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2017 06:51 AM (8+Ozj)

Lena Dunham: Life...You Know...Okay? I Can't Even...it Like, Comes at You Fast...Does That Make Sense? (MJ)

Live by the tampon, die by the...ug, its just too gross. I can't even.

Lena Dunham has apologized for comments she made supporting Girls writer Murray Miller, who has been accused of sexually assaulting actress Aurora Perrineau.

On Friday, after the claims against Miller were made public, Dunham took to Twitter to support Miller on behalf of herself and Girls executive producer Jenni Konner, saying, "We believe, having worked closely with [Miller] for more than half a decade, that this is the case with Murray Miller. While our first instinct is to listen to every woman's story, our insider knowledge of Murray's situation makes us confident that sadly this accusation is one of the 3 percent of assault cases that are misreported every year."

Dunham was criticized widely for her statement.

On Saturday, she released an apology on Twitter, saying "I naively believed it was important to share my perspective on my friend's situation as it has transpired behind the scenes over the last few months. I now understand that it was absolutely the wrong time to come forward with such a statement and I am so sorry."


I feel like I keep saying the same things over and over again. These people...the self appointed culture leaders... are not bright. They can't even keep their own rules straight.

And one more thing: Lena Dunham and her millennial generation hipster idiots simply stole and updated the valley girl/Clueless schtick from the 80s and 90s. The awkward phrasing and the lilting upturn toward a question at the end of ever sentence; it's all been done before.

Hardest hit: Cher and Dionne. Ugh, as if!

Totally hardest hit: Jane Austen. It is a truth universally acknowledged that life, in possession of great irony, presents itself speedily.

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1 "I naively believed it was important to share my perspective."
Lena in a nutshell.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 19, 2017 06:58 PM (2NqXo)

2 nd

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:59 PM (MYss1)

3 Speaking of hams......

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:59 PM (MYss1)

4 So, what the hell is that statement? Seems to be having it both ways.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:00 PM (ycWCI)

5 3 Speaking of hams......
Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:59 PM (MYss1)

More of a spotted land sea cow.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:01 PM (ycWCI)

6 Wait, which COB is emmjay?

Misanthropic... Jihadist?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:01 PM (y87Qq)

7 Lena Dunham, giving sluts everywhere a bad name.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (MYss1)

8 Aside from Dunham, I mercifully have no idea who any of these other people are.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (ANIFC)

9 I'd rather talk about turkey than ham.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (2NqXo)

10 If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not necessary for me to have an opinion about every little thing.
Even better to not offer one.

Posted by: navybrat at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (w7KSn)

11 Too bad the whale oil industry collapsed. Lena dodged a bullet there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (hyuyC)

12 Add this to the story:

https://twitter.com/zinziclemmons/status/932200880975286273

"It is time for women of color--black women in particular--to divest from Lena Dunham."

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (I/iGu)

13 Lena has been dining off her "As a rape survivor..." pose for several years now.

Hope this is the final nail in the coffin of this idiot Hollywood and New York media has thrust upon us.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (W+vEI)

14 Dunham, wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (hjzvx)

15 So, a child molester was being defended by Lena, an admitted child molester. So now Lena, who molested her own sister and bragged about it while also making up a rape accusation against an innnocent man due to him being conservative, is re-thinking defending her friend who is being accused of abusing a child.

And this is why I do not like anything on TV.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (c1VpD)

16 hogmartin

MJ is our stealth COB. Used to close up Sunday, add a touch of grace, and give ace time to rearrange his selves or salt down the hobo, depending.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (hyuyC)

17 "Since Murray never so much as looked at me in that way so he must not have sexually abused a "lesser" star on the program." -- Dunham logic

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (5pTgP)

18 what a waste of skin.

Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (CNHr1)

19 But sharing ones perspective in 280 characters is one of life's imperatives! It's in the constitution!

Posted by: Jammy boy at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (yOqwj)

20 Ha, Ha! Pebbles and BAM! BAM! HAM!

Ya'll.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 07:05 PM (bD2SM)

21 Lena sexually abuses herself. No need for others to step in.

In a world that cures cancer, Lena is remarkably unneeded.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:06 PM (hyuyC)

22 I am going to refrain from commenting for a bit to try to get to the truth of the matter.

Posted by: No one on Twitter, ever at November 19, 2017 07:06 PM (ycWCI)

23 More of a spotted land landed, spotted* sea cow.

*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:06 PM (EyPfd)

24 "It is time for women of color--black women in particular--to divest from Lena Dunham."
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:02 PM (I/iGu)


They'd have to achieve orbital velocity. The Tsiolkovsky equation is a harsh mistress.




...because Lena is hefty, you see. That's why it's funny.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:06 PM (y87Qq)

25 Who the hell names their son (or daughter) Murray?

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (GsAUU)

26 There are stealth COB's? Are they like the air marshal's on flights? Packing heat but you don't know who they are?

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (MYss1)

27 I should add that Zinzi's tweet includes a long statement which includes an accusation that Lena and all of their mutual friends -- kids of semi-famous New York art world parents -- frequently used "hipster racism" to provoke outrage and accuse their critics of being triggered.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (I/iGu)

28 ALH. Yes.

Armed with the ban hammer too.

That one time in banned camp ...

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:08 PM (hyuyC)

29 'what a waste of skin.'

That's about an Ethiopian village worth of skin being wasted right there

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:08 PM (EyPfd)

30 Aren't there some flight attendants she can nark on to take the focus off this debacle?

Posted by: huerfano at November 19, 2017 07:08 PM (Dp2K8)

31 26 There are stealth COB's? Are they like the air marshal's on flights? Packing heat but you don't know who they are?
Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (MYss1)

They are the unnamed and the unsung. They swing the banhammer in the cold, dark places where others fear to tread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:09 PM (ycWCI)

32 Dunham- I was right until I was wrong so now I can just be right again.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:09 PM (hjzvx)

33 ' There are stealth COB's? Are they like the air marshal's on flights? Packing heat but you don't know who they are?'

This is all discussed in the handbook, provided with your AoSHQ Platinum membership.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:09 PM (EyPfd)

34 I feel so much safer knowing that there are stealth COB's.

Trolls are dealt with swiftly and ruthlessly.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (MYss1)

35 Aetius451A

We are safe at our keyboards because the stealth COB patrol the outer darkness.

Hand Salute. Ready ... two.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (hyuyC)

36 She's dumb. For a while she had a limited popularity due to the dumb , almost unwatchable show she was a part of.
What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart.

Obscurity. Coming soon.

In 30 years, she will be the answer to a trivia question, and otherwise forgotten.
There's a plethora of young actors from the 80's and 90's who just.....disappeared. They almost always do.

Only the most talented, good looking or most depraved actually get ahead in the entertainment business and stay "popular", ie, keep getting work.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (S6Pax)

37 >> If there is one thing I've learned is that it's not necessary for me to have an opinion about every little thing.
>>Even better to not offer one.

I wish that I learned that a little less painfully, but it sure did stick.

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (wwL6Q)

38 Keep eating your own, you shithead self-righteous liberal scum.

Dogs eating vomit.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (GsAUU)

39 I need an AoSHQ Handbook and Style Guide.
Link, please.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (MYss1)

40 Village Idiot's Apprentice

I got a rock. No, a bran flakes membership level.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (hyuyC)

41 25 Who the hell names their son (or daughter) Murray?
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (GsAUU)

Al Molinaro fans...
http://tinyurl.com/y8tma7de

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (5pTgP)

42 This is all discussed in the handbook, provided with your AoSHQ Platinum membership.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:09 PM (EyPfd)


If you did not receive a handbook with your platinum membership, you may request one by kite to a CO, who will pass it along to the warden. Or, simply stand in one place and yell "I NEED AN ADULT!".

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (y87Qq)

43 From Drudge-


"Ancient sea monster hunted to extinction mysteriously reappears"


The thing is called Steller's Sea Cow.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (zCyNd)

44 Lena, why are you pulling my dick?

Posted by: Heather #2 at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (GsAUU)

45 Another great thing about the Trump presidency....Karma is back in full force. The worst of the worst and the nastiest of the nasty are being taken down in full view of the world.

Posted by: jmel at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (OeWgo)

46 'Dogs eating vomit.'

That ain't all they eat!

Posted by: The cat at November 19, 2017 07:12 PM (EyPfd)

47 43 From Drudge-


"Ancient sea monster hunted to extinction mysteriously reappears"


The thing is called Steller's Sea Cow.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (zCyNd)

I was certain Google was going to show me a picture of Dunham

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (5pTgP)

48 >>I need an AoSHQ Handbook and Style Guide.
Link, please.

Oh, I have one.

Just lean over here...

Posted by: The Barrel at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (wwL6Q)

49
Dunham, wrong on so many levels.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (hjzvx)


Dunhill, at least, you can smoke.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (oPNmq)

50 43 From Drudge-


"Ancient sea monster hunted to extinction mysteriously reappears"


The thing is called Steller's Sea Cow.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (zCyNd)

--What?!

That lived in the Bering Sea.

And it's back???

Must look up.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:14 PM (GsAUU)

51 Lena Dunham has a good future ahead of her down at the Waffle House.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:14 PM (MYss1)

52 logprof

Remains. All they got are remains. Nothing living.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:14 PM (hyuyC)

53 'Dunhill, at least, you can smoke.'

But a Dunham can be rendered for oil.

Might even find some ambergris if you split the head open.

Posted by: The cat at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (EyPfd)

54 And Jeffrey Tambor quit rather than be fired from Transparent this evening.

The comments over at deadline.com are hilarious.

Everyone is basically accusing two transgender actors of faking the whole thing to wrestle control of the series away from Tambor.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (I/iGu)

55 17 "Since Murray never so much as looked at me in that way so he must not have sexually abused a "lesser" star on the program." -- Dunham logic
Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (5pTgP)
------------------------------------
Ah, quite possible!

Or: "Since I falsely accused someone of rape just to get attention, I assume a lot of women do that."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (0jtPF)

56 She's just disgusting, inside and out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (NWiLs)

57 Be off me, you feline sock.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (EyPfd)

58 Dunhill, at least, you can smoke.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (oPNmq)

Used to be a fan of Dunhil Internationales. Nutty. Also around $7 per pack back when regular domestic top shelf cigarettes were around $1.60.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (ycWCI)

59 Lena Dunham: The First Lady of American Lunacy

Posted by: tu3031 at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (O5Q3r)

60 >>What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart.



Obscurity. Coming soon.



You would think. Except....in addition to her popular online newsletter , she has her own imprint at Random House and is in the running for the editor in chief position at Glamour magazine. She has some film work in the pipeline, too. I blame the NY media world for keeping this batsh#t nutter employed.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 07:17 PM (W+vEI)

61 58 Dunhill, at least, you can smoke.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (oPNmq)

Used to be a fan of Dunhil Internationales. Nutty. Also around $7 per pack back when regular domestic top shelf cigarettes were around $1.60.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (ycWCI)

Now they're like $12 a pack.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:17 PM (NWiLs)

62 The thing is called Steller's Sea Cow.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (zCyNd)



I was certain Google was going to show me a picture of Dunham

Posted by: Strategic Corporal USMC at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (5pTgP)

Stellar must have been a prolific guy. Had a bird named for him, too. Stellar's Jay.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (oPNmq)

63 Tubby Lena finds herself, as usual, in a tight spot. Caught between the size she wishes she wore and reality as the jeans refuse to clear those thundering hips, like the truth in her statement finds itself suffering under the same baggage.

Posted by: tentotwo at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (yhf6w)

64 'What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart. '

We still talking about Lena, or Michelle Obama?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (EyPfd)

65 64 'What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart. '

We still talking about Lena, or Michelle Obama?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (EyPfd)

Funny how this description applies to so many propped up by the Left.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:19 PM (NWiLs)

66 64 'What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart. '

We still talking about Lena, or Michelle Obama?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (EyPfd)

"And" hopefully.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:19 PM (ycWCI)

67 61 58 Dunhill, at least, you can smoke.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (oPNmq)

Used to be a fan of Dunhil Internationales. Nutty. Also around $7 per pack back when regular domestic top shelf cigarettes were around $1.60.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (ycWCI)

Now they're like $12 a pack.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:17 PM (NWiLs)


And regular domestic cigarettes are what, $5-6 per pack?

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

68 54
....Everyone is basically accusing two transgender actors of faking the whole thing to wrestle control of the series away from Tambor.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (I/iGu)
--------------------------------
Heh.
I actually find that quite plausible.

(Granted, I know nothing about these individuals.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:21 PM (0jtPF)

69 @58: "Used to be a fan of Dunhil Internationales."

Hole in the wall tobacco shop in my small college town stocked Dunhills, 555s, and Gauloises 'cause some students just had to be more fancy than everyone else.

And clove cigarettes. And those ridiculous Nat Sherman rainbow colored cigarettes.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:21 PM (I/iGu)

70 If he wrote Girls, he assaulted the audience.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 07:21 PM (oVJmc)

71 The Dunhill pipe tobacco line is being discontinued soonish. No more Navy Rolls, 965, Flake, Early Morning, London Mixture. So be sure to stock up! I'll take whatever you guys don't want.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:21 PM (y87Qq)

72 67 61 58 Dunhill, at least, you can smoke.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (oPNmq)

Used to be a fan of Dunhil Internationales. Nutty. Also around $7 per pack back when regular domestic top shelf cigarettes were around $1.60.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (ycWCI)

Now they're like $12 a pack.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:17 PM (NWiLs)

And regular domestic cigarettes are what, $5-6 per pack?
Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

In normal states. If you're in NY a pack is, what, like $15?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:23 PM (NWiLs)

73 Who the hell names their son (or daughter) Murray?
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (GsAUU)


Well, there was Mr. and Mrs. Rothbard.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 07:23 PM (2K6fY)

74 A dumb person, made a celebrity by dumb people, for the purpose of making dumb people feel good about being dumb people.

That about sums that up.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at November 19, 2017 07:23 PM (lLeln)

75 I never got the cigar thing but I find pipes fascinating.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:23 PM (hjzvx)

76 Come listen to my story 'bout a groping man named Jed...

Posted by: Lena Dumbham at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (Tyii7)

77 Russell Simmons has been accused of what sounds a lot like attempted rape.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (oVJmc)

78 75 I never got the cigar thing but I find pipes fascinating.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:23 PM (hjzvx)

The aroma of good pipe tobacco is just wonderful.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

79 And regular domestic cigarettes are what, $5-6 per pack?
Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 07:20 PM (sdi6R)

Not sure. Have not bought a pack in 4-5 years. (Vaping rocks, ftm.)

Think a friend said she bought the bargain line of Marlboro's for something like $4.60 per pack in Indiana last year.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (ycWCI)

80 I now understand that it was absolutely the wrong time to come forward with such a statement and I am so sorry.


You call THAT an apology? Seppuku, now THAT'S an apology.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (YqDXo)

81
"I naively believed it was important to share my perspective...


STOP RIGHT THERE!

Now, go away!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (pNxlR)

82 'What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart. '



We still talking about Lena, or Michelle Obama?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (EyPfd)


In 30 years I can easily imagine Lena saying "I'm still big..."

Posted by: Norma Desmond Molnar at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (zCyNd)

83 80 I now understand that it was absolutely the wrong time to come forward with such a statement and I am so sorry.


You call THAT an apology? Seppuku, now THAT'S an apology.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (YqDXo)

She's not going to cut in deep enough with just a tanto. She'll barely breach the blubber.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (NWiLs)

84 Do you have Lena Dunham in a can?

Posted by: Bart Stealth Simpson at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (7Ml7x)

85 Who the hell names their son (or daughter) Murray?

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (GsAUU)




They were big fans of Gavin MacLeod's character on the Mary Tyler Moore show

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (SiINZ)

86 78 75 I never got the cigar thing but I find pipes fascinating.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:23 PM (hjzvx)

The aroma of good pipe tobacco is just wonderful.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

Pipe tobacco was always a double edged sword for me. The best smelling stuff tasted the foulest, while the best tasting stuff (usually turkish blends) did not smell so nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (ycWCI)

87 "I naively believed it was important to share my perspective."

She makes that mistake a lot.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (O5Q3r)

88 This is the same twit that 'reported' two airline employees, having a private conversation, that they supposedly said some things that were not totally politically correct.

And now she has outed herself as insufficiently WOKE.

Poor fatty dumpster fire of a semi-human. Full of smoke and stink, signifying absolutely nothing.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (0ogQG)

89 59 Lena Dunham: The First Lady of American Lunacy
Posted by: tu3031 at November 19, 2017 07:16 PM (O5Q3r)


Lady?? You call THAT a lady?

Posted by: Stellar's Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (YqDXo)

90 84 Do you have Lena Dunham in a can?
Posted by: Bart Stealth Simpson at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (7Ml7x)

Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (ycWCI)

91 I now understand that it was absolutely the wrong time to come forward with such a statement and I am so sorry.


You call THAT an apology? Seppuku, now THAT'S an apology.



It's a diabolically clever strategy. See? Now she can blame this all on a broken clock.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (+0jcH)

92 Andy Warhol was more of a lady than Lena will ever be.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (I/iGu)

93 Is my refrigerator running?

Posted by: Lena Dumbham at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (Tyii7)

94 You would think. Except....in addition to her popular online newsletter , she has her own imprint at Random House and is in the running for the editor in chief position at Glamour magazine.

-----

She's in Glamour? I'll win the contest for sure this time!

Posted by: George Costanza at November 19, 2017 07:27 PM (ANIFC)

95 Do you have Lena Dunham in a can?
Posted by: Bart Stealth Simpson at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (7Ml7x)


Photographic evidence too, unfortunately.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:27 PM (y87Qq)

96 Stellar must have been a prolific guy. Had a bird named for him, too. Stellar's Jay.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:18 PM (oPNmq)

And an eagle and a sea lion. The aquarium where I worked had the Steller sea lions for awhile. Much bigger than the California ones.

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 07:27 PM (6HFDU)

97 Who the hell names their son (or daughter) Murray?
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:07 PM (GsAUU)
------------------------
I don't think anyone does now.
But it was a fairly popular name a few decades ago.
Up north anyway.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:27 PM (0jtPF)

98 92 Andy Warhol was more of a lady than Lena will ever be.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:26 PM (I/iGu)/i]


Hell, Brucella Jenner is more of a lady than Lena will ever be.

More attractive, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:28 PM (YqDXo)

99 MJ, my apologies but 15 seconds spent on Dunham is more than I care to extract from my life for some useless scrunt.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:28 PM (hjzvx)

100 Mattress girl has been far too ignored in this whole mess; I'm sure she has some sad tale to tell. How long before she finds a way to horn herself back into the public consciousness?


Posted by: Sally Kohn at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (ylUqT)

101 MJ is our stealth COB. Used to close up Sunday, add a touch of grace, and give ace time to rearrange his selves or salt down the hobo, depending.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (hyuyC)

He should be brining his Christmas hobo by now.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (cu8/f)

102 Lena " I rewarded my toddler sister with candy so I could groom and molest her" Dunham.

She should be in GITMO.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (g4lFK)

103 If he wrote Girls, he assaulted the audience.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

It was such a big mess of a show. Or little mess. I never watched it.
And now it's dead. The art of entertainment is supposed to do one or a multiple of things.
Entertain.
Tell a good story
Be an exposition of the art of acting.
Examine truth and beauty.

I suppose within her circle, there is still stuff Lena will do.
When she loses enough of other peoples money as an entertainer, they will stop subsidizing her homely Diva mystique.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (S6Pax)

104 99 MJ, my apologies but 15 seconds spent on Dunham is more than I care to extract from my life for some useless scrunt.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:28 PM (hjzvx)

Funny, her ex-boyfriend said something similar...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (ycWCI)

105 You go, Lena!

Posted by: Janeane Garafalo at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (O5Q3r)

106 I am hating my two browsers

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)

107 Sally Kohn sock slipped past me.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (ylUqT)

108 What Janeane said! You go, Lena!

Posted by: Margaret Cho at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (O5Q3r)

109 The Oakland Raiders' Marshawn Lynch has consistently sat for the national anthem this season, one of many players who have protested social inequality by sitting or kneeling during the anthem. Prior to Sunday's game against the New England Patriots in Mexico City, Lynch sat during the national anthem and then, according to the Boston Globe's Ben Volin, stood for the Mexican anthem.




They should pay the bastard in pesos and leave him down there

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)

110 106 I am hating my two browsers
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)

I sense a children's book.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (ycWCI)

111 Ben Had

No matter how messed up your life, no matter how unattractive your life choices, no matter what looks back at the mirror, you can always say "At least I am not Lena Dunham."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (hyuyC)

112 As Abe Lincoln once famously said, it's better to be thought a fucking idiot than to take to twitter and prove everyone fucking right.

Something like that anyway.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 19, 2017 07:31 PM (gC2IV)

113 Stelllllaaaaar!

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 07:31 PM (ANIFC)

114 Grasshopper! Snatch the pebbles from my...


Let me rephrase this...

Posted by: Lena's little sister at November 19, 2017 07:31 PM (zCyNd)

115 I'm on the Lena Dunham bandwagon too! You go, Lena!

Posted by: Kathy Griffin at November 19, 2017 07:31 PM (O5Q3r)

116 Abraham Lincoln said that God must love stupid people because he made so many of them.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 07:32 PM (MYss1)

117 Ummmmm. Stacy Dash.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 07:32 PM (g4lFK)

118 109 The Oakland Raiders' Marshawn Lynch has consistently sat for the national anthem this season, one of many players who have protested social inequality by sitting or kneeling during the anthem.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)


He can always redistribute some of his wealth to me.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 07:32 PM (sdi6R)

119 NaCly Dog, Truer words never spoken.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 07:32 PM (hjzvx)

120 No matter how messed up your life, no matter how
unattractive your life choices, no matter what looks back at the mirror,
you can always say "At least I am not Lena Dunham."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (hyuyC)

I do that! Especially now.

Posted by: Sen. Stuart Smalley at November 19, 2017 07:32 PM (zCyNd)

121 My Two Browsers, starring Fred MacMurray!

Posted by: Lena Dumbham at November 19, 2017 07:33 PM (Tyii7)

122

Tee tee tee Manatee Manatee

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:33 PM (IqV8l)

123 I don't think anyone does now.
But it was a fairly popular name a few decades ago.
Up north anyway.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:27 PM (0jtPF)

--Damn yankees.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:34 PM (GsAUU)

124 When Abraham Lincoln was asked what he thought of Western civilization, he said "Madame, I may be drunk, but all cats are grey when they hear the lamentations of their women".

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:34 PM (y87Qq)

125 Another great thing about the Trump presidency....Karma is back in full force. The worst of the worst and the nastiest of the nasty are being taken down in full view of the world.

Posted by: jmel at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (OeWgo)

What's this I hear about 1800 sealed federal indictments? Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 07:34 PM (cu8/f)

126 What Dunham thinks and a buck get's me a donut at DD

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2017 07:35 PM (SjImc)

127 She's not going to cut in deep enough with just a tanto. She'll barely breach the blubber.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (NWiLs)


It would require a flensing knife.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:35 PM (oPNmq)

128 Huh? What? What time is it?

Posted by: Jeff SezZzions at November 19, 2017 07:35 PM (Tyii7)

129 "They can't even keep their own rules straight."
*****************


They have no rules or morals it's simply the meme of the day.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 07:35 PM (kvb15)

130 109 The Oakland Raiders' Marshawn Lynch has consistently sat for the national anthem this season, one of many players who have protested social inequality by sitting or kneeling during the anthem.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)

Every time I debate whether or not to lift my NFL ban, one of these giblet heads makes up my mind for me.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

131 Atlantic Coast

And a MEF (Battalion) of armed Marines at CIA headquarters?

Inquiring minds.

It would be a great fake-out if AG Sessions signed every one of them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:36 PM (hyuyC)

132 125 Another great thing about the Trump presidency....Karma is back in full force. The worst of the worst and the nastiest of the nasty are being taken down in full view of the world.

Posted by: jmel at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (OeWgo)

What's this I hear about 1800 sealed federal indictments? Anyone? Anyone?
Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 07:34 PM (cu8/f)

You'd think the Feds would have better things to do than indict seals.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

133 Lena supports a woman's right not to bring an unwanted child into the world.

Posted by: We're Your Betters at November 19, 2017 07:37 PM (GsAUU)

134 Copenhagen snuff which was .50 cents in the 1970s is now $8.50 per tin. I'm pretty sure the tobacco is free all the cost is taxes.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 07:37 PM (VDQek)

135 Insomniac

It's ice cream. (Just the punchline)

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:38 PM (hyuyC)

136 STELLER!!!

Posted by: Stanley Seakowalski at November 19, 2017 07:38 PM (UdKB7)

137 'Every time I debate whether or not to lift my NFL ban, one of these giblet heads makes up my mind for me.'

Any truth to the rumor that stadium attendance continues to drop off?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:38 PM (EyPfd)

138 Lena supports a woman's right not to bring an unwanted child into the world.

Posted by: We're Your Betters at November 19, 2017 07:37 PM (GsAUU)


Every child a wanted child!

Posted by: Comet Pizza at November 19, 2017 07:39 PM (oPNmq)

139 What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart. '
---

Democrat Politician.

Duh.

Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (aT+Bx)

140 Ima let you talk but first...

Posted by: Marshawn Pinch at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (Tyii7)

141 Hey Lena, Al Franken could hire you as a speechwriter.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (GsAUU)

142 The Oakland Raiders' Marshawn Lynch has consistently sat for the national anthem this season, one of many players who have protested social inequality by sitting or kneeling during the anthem.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)

Every time I debate whether or not to lift my NFL ban, one of these giblet heads makes up my mind for me.
Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 07:35 PM (ANIFC)

I hate them all and have gotten very used to not missing the nfl..when do Pitchers and Catchers report?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (SjImc)

143 Girlfriend in Highschool favorite movie was Clueless. She could have been Alicia Silverstone's clone and dumb as a box of rocks as well.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (g4lFK)

144 Hurro, shibumi. Lovely weather lately!

:: waves ::

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:41 PM (y87Qq)

145
Any truth to the rumor that stadium attendance continues to drop off?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:38 PM (EyPfd)

Who knows? No witnesses.

Posted by: Miklos the Molnar at November 19, 2017 07:41 PM (zCyNd)

146
When your entire ideology is based in lies and hatred, as is the case with so-called Progressivism, it's impossible not to contradict oneself nearly all the time.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 07:41 PM (gdzWc)

147 Democrat Politician.

Duh.


Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (aT+Bx)

Maybe she could hook up with Al Franken, and birth a brood of underpants gnomes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:41 PM (oPNmq)

148 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Brietbart has an article up on that. Lots of empty seats and TV ratings down 20%. "Networks already known to have lost up to $500 million in ad revenue."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:41 PM (hyuyC)

149 In the beginning, there was Hobby Lobby president Steve Green and his first purchase of a biblical artifact in 2009 that launched the Green Collection.

What Green has accomplished since then is a full-fledged museum dedicated to the "Book of Books" in Washington, D.C.

After nearly three years of construction, the Museum of the Bible will open its 40-foot tall, bronze doors - the Gutenberg Gates - inscribed with Genesis's first chapter in Latin to the public today.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 19, 2017 07:42 PM (e8kgV)

150 'Every time I debate whether or not to lift my NFL ban, one of these giblet heads makes up my mind for me.'

Any truth to the rumor that stadium attendance continues to drop off?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 07:38 PM (EyPfd)



I put on the Bears game for two minutes. A lot of empty seats at Soldier Field. I don't know who was in the booth with Chris Speilman but he was blathering about Speilman being on the Wheaties box and the only other two people he can ever remember being on the box were Bruce Jenner and Mary Lou Retton. I thought, Bruce? Uh oh, someone will be off to re-education camp and then switched off the game

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (SiINZ)

151 125 What's this I hear about 1800 sealed federal indictments? Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: Atlantic Coast


Oh, you mean the rumor displayed at the Hal Turner website? That dude should know a little bit about indictments, since he's been the subject of a few. Threatening federal judges, lawmakers; yeah, he's a peach.

I'd totes believe anything that Holocaust denying racist spews.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (0ogQG)

152 Hurro, shibumi. Lovely weather lately!



:: waves ::
---

Hi hogmartin!

::waves back::

Did you get flurries today? I did, and ended up raking the lawn when it was 33.

HINT: If raking leaves outside when it's 33, wear gloves. REALLY important.

Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)

153 It would be a great fake-out if AG Sessions signed every one of them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:36 PM (hyuyC)

I've been praying that he's been deftly avoiding the media frenzy shit and working like a mofo behind the scenes.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (cu8/f)

154 Girlfriend in Highschool favorite movie was Clueless. She could have
been Alicia Silverstone's clone and dumb as a box of rocks as well.
---

I can match that.

Boyfriend in colleges favorite movie was Footloose.

I dragged him to see Fanny and Alexander.

It was not meant to be.

Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:44 PM (aT+Bx)

155 Atlantic Coast

The source is not credible.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 07:44 PM (hyuyC)

156 Everyone is basically accusing two transgender actors of faking the whole thing to wrestle control of the series away from Tambor.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (I/iGu)


Catfight!!!

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 07:45 PM (EzdLW)

157 @137: "Any truth to the rumor that stadium attendance continues to drop off?"

Kinda sorta. I doubt it's dropping bigly week after week like some claim, but yeah, there are plenty of stadiums throughout the league that have been, quite obviously, not selling out.

I have noticed a shift in some of the sports radio talking heads though.

First couple of weeks after Trump started his fight with the league, all of the pundits, and I mean all, kept saying TV ratings were holding steady and the anthem protests had ZERO to do with it.

Last week, the talking point had changed. Big city TV ratings were holding steady, but the smaller (redder market) cities had significant drops. Some pundits were hedging their denials, while others just stopped talking about TV ratings entirely.


Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:45 PM (I/iGu)

158 Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)

Some slushy sleet. The flurries were yesterday, during the MSU game.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:45 PM (y87Qq)

159 109 .... Prior to Sunday's game against the New England Patriots in Mexico City, Lynch sat during the national anthem and then, according to the Boston Globe's Ben Volin, stood for the Mexican anthem.....

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)
---------------------------------
But of course. *spit*

In an interview Derek Jeter (now co-owner and CEO of the Miami Marlins) said he would allow his players to diss the anthem. Free speech!
A columnist asked if he would allow his players to diss the CUBAN anthem if they went there to play.
Crickets.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (0jtPF)

160 Hmm. The knee-jerk defense sounds just like what Al Franken's aides said.

Perhaps...perhaps Dunham hasn't considered that the guy found her unattractive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (9tO1t)

161 Watching the NFL? No, not anymore. On the other hand, there's a curling rink here north of Seattle with plenty of fans. I'm trying to get good. Much, much harder than it looks.

Although, there are some young and pretty lasses who appear eager to impart their knowledge, so there's that.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (TKmA0)

162
Brietbart has an article up on that. Lots of empty seats and TV ratings down 20%. "Networks already known to have lost up to $500 million in ad revenue."
Posted by: NaCly Dog


I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

163 I can match that.

Boyfriend in colleges favorite movie was Footloose.

I dragged him to see Fanny and Alexander.

It was not meant to be.
Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:44 PM (aT+Bx)

Ah Yes, the story of the Great Warrior... Kevin Bacon... who taught the people to dance...

Posted by: StarLord at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (NgKpN)

164 What is her future? She is not attractive, not talented and not very smart.

Sounds perfect one of those fake "talk" shows on the "Comedy" Channel.

Posted by: Kathy Griffin at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (O5Q3r)

165 109 The Oakland Raiders' Marshawn Lynch has consistently sat for the national anthem this season, one of many players who have protested social inequality by sitting or kneeling during the anthem. Prior to Sunday's game against the New England Patriots in Mexico City, Lynch sat during the national anthem and then, according to the Boston Globe's Ben Volin, stood for the Mexican anthem.

They should pay the bastard in pesos and leave him down there
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)


I like it.

I was going to suggest sending his ass back to the ghetto, whence he came, and where he obviously belongs, but your suggestion is better.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (YqDXo)

166 The Oakland Raiders' Marshawn Lynch has consistently sat for the national anthem this season, one of many players who have protested social inequality by sitting or kneeling during the anthem.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (SiINZ)

Every time I debate whether or not to lift my NFL ban, one of these giblet heads makes up my mind for me.
Posted by: josephistan

The Raiders were supposed to be pretty good this season.

They aren't. Their locker room must be a nightmare.

They got beat by the Patriots 27-0 today.

Lynch is part of a leper colony. My guess is his career is just about over, and then he can become another obscure has-been from the NFL.

Maybe he and Lena can have a show on HBO called "Do you know who I am?"

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (S6Pax)

167 HINT: If raking leaves outside when it's 33, wear gloves. REALLY important.
Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)

I involuntarily shivered while reading your post. That's fireplace weather.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (Ri/rl)

168
I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

Just like with Yahoo!

Posted by: Miklos of the Molnars at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (zCyNd)

169 In an interview Derek Jeter (now co-owner and CEO of the Miami Marlins) said he would allow his players to diss the anthem. Free speech!
A columnist asked if he would allow his players to diss the CUBAN anthem if they went there to play.
Crickets.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (0jtPF)

Jeter was a great player but he is an asshole and a left wing also. Fuck him. And I am a huge Yankee fan but fuck him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (SjImc)

170 I hate them all and have gotten very used to not missing the nfl..when do Pitchers and Catchers report?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (SjImc)
*****************

If Rugby was a winter sport an enterprising cable channel might pick a winner.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (kvb15)

171 In an interview Derek Jeter (now co-owner and CEO of the Miami Marlins) said he would allow his players to diss the anthem. Free speech!
A columnist asked if he would allow his players to diss the CUBAN anthem if they went there to play.
Crickets.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (0jtPF)


The Havana Marlins sounds nice. Move them there

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:48 PM (SiINZ)

172 Did you get flurries today? I did, and ended up raking the lawn when it was 33.

HINT: If raking leaves outside when it's 33, wear gloves. REALLY important.


Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:43 PM (aT+Bx)

It warmed up here in southern Alberta. Strong Chinook wind, and snow was melting steadily. I washed up a bunch of Suburban parts in my outside solvent tank, and cleaned and painted some more inside the heated garage. So when the seals I ordered arrive, I can install the new transfer case, and get that vehicle back on the road with full 4X4 capability again.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:48 PM (oPNmq)

173 168
I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

Just like with Yahoo!
Posted by: Miklos of the Molnars at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (zCyNd)

Green shoots of recovery summer.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 07:49 PM (Ri/rl)

174 Perhaps...perhaps Dunham hasn't considered that the guy found her unattractive.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (9tO1t)


Hard to believe, isn't it?

It's like the bowsers on Franken's staff. "He never molested me! So why would he molest a former Playmate?"

Maybe because in terms of sex appeal you're in a dead heat with an old boot? Just spitballin' here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:49 PM (YqDXo)

175 I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

Just like with Yahoo!

Posted by: Miklos of the Molnars at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (zCyNd)



Yahoo has to be one of the biggest infestations of raw stupidity on the face of the earth. Even their sports reporters are now all just lefty bilge

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:49 PM (SiINZ)

176 I admit I have no love for the rest of the NFL but would watch the Birds If they put them on during my waking hours , which lately isn't very often.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (aC6Sd)

177 there's a curling rink here north of Seattle with plenty of fans. I'm trying to get good. Much, much harder than it looks.



Although, there are some young and pretty lasses who appear eager to impart their knowledge, so there's that.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (TKmA0)

Sweep the leg.

Posted by: Karate Kid at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (VDQek)

178 I involuntarily shivered while reading your post. That's fireplace weather.
---

hahaha.

Not in Michigan.

I was raking leaves in fleece pants and a fleece jacket and it was fine. I was out for a while, so I really should have had some sort of gloves on. Even gardening gloves would have been fine. That was my only mistake.

I'd say fireplace weather here is when we hit around "zero."

Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (aT+Bx)

179 173 168
I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

Just like with Yahoo!
Posted by: Miklos of the Molnars at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (zCyNd)

Green shoots of recovery summer.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 07:49 PM (Ri/rl)



Marissa Mayer's legacy lives on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (YqDXo)

180 @162: "I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?"

Total rating across the country is down a little bit, but not enough to panic all the NFL owners yet.

It's more complicated when you start looking at state-by-state and city-by-city numbers though. Redder parts of the country are tuning out. Significant drops in large geographic areas of the country.

Question is whether that's a one year blip or the beginning of a long term trend.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (I/iGu)

181 Watching the NFL? No, not anymore. On the other hand, there's a
curling rink here north of Seattle with plenty of fans. I'm trying to
get good. Much, much harder than it looks.

I watched an Irish Hurling tournament from Fenway Park today on TV. Fenway was about 3/4 full. I had never seen Irish hurling in my life, but it was very entertaining.

Posted by: tu3031 at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (O5Q3r)

182 So when the seals I ordered arrive, I can install
the new transfer case, and get that vehicle back on the road with full
4X4 capability again.


Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:48 PM (oPNmq)

When you ordered the seals, did you get the deal with the bonus penguins?

Posted by: Miklos the smart shopper at November 19, 2017 07:50 PM (zCyNd)

183 Yahoo has to be one of the biggest infestations of raw stupidity on the face of the earth. Even their sports reporters are now all just lefty bilge
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:49 PM (SiINZ)


I say again: Marissa Mayer's legacy lives on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (YqDXo)

184 Perhaps...perhaps Dunham hasn't considered that the guy found her unattractive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (9tO1t)


That would require self-awareness.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (oPNmq)

185 You call THAT an apology? Seppuku, now THAT'S an apology.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:24 PM (YqDXo)

"It is I who must apologize to the Emperor"
Attributed to Adm Yamamoto after the destruction of the Kido Butai at Midway, in the movie, Midway.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (brIR5)

186 I had a little test fire in the fireplace yesterday and it scared WeaselDog.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 07:52 PM (Sfs6o)

187 HINT: If raking leaves outside when it's 33, wear gloves. REALLY important.
Posted by: shibumi

Are you good at that?

I have a bunch of leaves to rake.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:52 PM (S6Pax)

188 I thought the AoS style guide had been revised to refer to her as "Dangly Dugged Dunham."

Posted by: Fox2! at November 19, 2017 07:52 PM (brIR5)

189 177, Karate Kid. Yes, there's always that. We try, anyway. They seem to take pity on us fatherly geezer types.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:52 PM (TKmA0)

190 We take orders from no one. Unless you have fish.

Posted by: The Seals at November 19, 2017 07:52 PM (UdKB7)

191
I say again: Marissa Mayer's legacy lives on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (YqDXo)


You betcha!

Posted by: Marissa Mayer's golden parachute at November 19, 2017 07:53 PM (zCyNd)

192 So someone named Zinzi Clemmons is no longer going to write for Lenny Letter because Lena Dunham is racist?

I wonder if ace will give us a thread on it tomorrow.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 07:53 PM (/qEW2)

193 dyk dept.:

loretty lynn was 15 years old when she married "doo" webb (he was 21) beginning a marriage of nearly 50 years.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 19, 2017 07:53 PM (AxFdW)

194 Are you good at that?



I have a bunch of leaves to rake.
---

No. I am miserable at it, and only did it today in cold weather because tomorrow morning is "garbage day."

I got about half done. And then my hands hurt.

Posted by: shibumi at November 19, 2017 07:53 PM (aT+Bx)

195 Every time I debate whether or not to lift my NFL ban
Posted by: josephistan


Haven't even considered it. Don't miss it a bit.

Will probably never come back, either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:53 PM (YqDXo)

196 Wild video over at Drudge on infestations of killer drones. I shall name them "Lena Dunham".

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 19, 2017 07:53 PM (ylUqT)

197 I say again: Marissa Mayer's legacy lives on.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (YqDXo)



And after running that company into the ground she walked away with over a $100 million payout. I wish I could cash out like that for being an utter fuck up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (SiINZ)

198 I got about half done. And then my hands hurt.
Posted by: shibumi


Nature 3

Shibumi 0

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (S6Pax)

199 I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)



The NFL's appeal isn't diminishing, it's becoming more selective.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (+0jcH)

200 "It is I who must apologize to the Emperor"
Attributed to Adm Yamamoto after the destruction of the Kido Butai at Midway, in the movie, Midway.
Posted by: Fox2! at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (brIR5)


So ... a light lunch for you, Admiral?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (YqDXo)

201 If Rugby was a winter sport an enterprising cable channel might pick a winner.


Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM


It's not played during winter in the states?

Posted by: otho at November 19, 2017 07:55 PM (qGuLD)

202 I saw Steller's Sea Cow open for Aqua at the Gron Koncert in '08.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 07:55 PM (EzdLW)

203
And after running that company into the ground
she walked away with over a $100 million payout. I wish I could cash out
like that for being an utter fuck up

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (SiINZ)

I hope she invested it in Theranos.

Posted by: Miklos doesn't have golden parachute at November 19, 2017 07:55 PM (zCyNd)

204 Baby, it's thugs all the way down.

Posted by: Marshawn Pinch at November 19, 2017 07:55 PM (Tyii7)

205 Derek Jeter is infamous for spreading herpes the past 2 decades.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 07:56 PM (g4lFK)

206 And after running that company into the ground she walked away with over a $100 million payout. I wish I could cash out like that for being an utter fuck up
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (SiINZ)

Where do we sign up? I couldn't do much worse.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 07:56 PM (Ri/rl)

207 In racial terms, baseball is quite different than football.

Black participation peaked in the mid-1980s.

Hispanic players surpassed blacks in the early '90s.

Today? 63.7% white; 6.7% black; 27.4% hispanic.

I suspect those first and second generation hispanics have a very, very different view of the United States than their black teammates.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (I/iGu)

208 And after running that company into the ground she walked away with over a $100 million payout. I wish I could cash out like that for being an utter fuck up
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (SiINZ)


We could start a business: "Discount Fuck-ups. We'll fuck up your business for half of what the competition charges."

You know, instead of buying her out, you'd have to wonder if the thought crossed the board members' minds that it'd be a LOT cheaper to have her whacked.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (YqDXo)

209 Testing to see if this is working right

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (aC6Sd)

210 I thought Yahoo keeps saying the ratings are up and all is well?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 07:46 PM (IqV8l)

Isn't that funny? Its just like the fact that Target's permanent drop in traffic had absolutely nothing to do with a boycott over its SJW dressing room policies.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (+0jcH)

211 169----Jeter was a great player but he is an asshole and a left wing also. Fuck him. And I am a huge Yankee fan but fuck him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM (SjImc)
---------------------------
Yeah, a BIG disappointment.
I hate the Yankees but still always thought highly of him.

I just hope MLB doesn't become infected with this crap.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (0jtPF)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (+0jcH)

213 I was at the Irish hurling event at Fenway today too-I also thought it was very entertaining-quite a game-played by amateurs, no pads, in shorts, where they run around on a soccer field, whack the ball around like baseball or tennis, brawl like hockey score lots of goals like football-great fun!

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (zz1sH)

214 Derek Jeter is infamous for spreading herpes the past 2 decades.

Herpes and Derek Jeter-themed gift baskets.

Posted by: the classy way to say "so long, baby!" at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (wpC7C)

215 I suspect those first and second generation hispanics have a very, very different view of the United States than their black teammates.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (I/iGu)


Remind me again of the ethnic distribution of IQ scores.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (YqDXo)

216 what a waste of skin.
Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM

Seriously. I can't even. Ugh.

Posted by: Jame Gumb at November 19, 2017 07:58 PM (bQvjO)

217 I wonder if ace will give us a thread on it tomorrow.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear


Ace does seem to have a weird obsession with all things Lena.

It could happen. Why, I don't know.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:58 PM (S6Pax)

218 And after running that company into the ground she walked away with over a $100 million payout. I wish I could cash out like that for being an utter fuck up
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (SiINZ)



Normally you'd have to work high up in government to get a deal like that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:58 PM (+0jcH)

219 Dolphin browser is all jumpy, kept going to top after typing in

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 07:58 PM (aC6Sd)

220 There's nothing that a few million dollars in out-of-court settlements won't solve.

Posted by: Derek Peter at November 19, 2017 07:59 PM (Tyii7)

221 ... it was a contentious marriage, lots fighting' and loving', where he didn't hit her once she hit him back twice. but he thought she was special and was s an alcoholic.her love and support. but he was alcoholic.

as her song said:

"don't you come home adrinkin' (with loving' on your mind)"

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 19, 2017 07:59 PM (AxFdW)

222 I was at the Irish hurling event at Fenway today too


Ireland has dominated world projectile-vomiting competition since the 1800s.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:59 PM (+0jcH)

223 Testing to see if this is working right
Posted by: Skip


Well, it's not.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:59 PM (S6Pax)

224
Normally you'd have to work high up in government to get a deal like that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 07:58 PM (+0jcH)

Usually.

Posted by: Barry O. at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (zCyNd)

225
The idiots at Verizon who thought buying Yahoo was a good idea take the cake for beyond dumb

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (SiINZ)

226 Ace does seem to have a weird obsession with all things Lena.


Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:58 PM


Ace lusts for my ample love flesh.

Posted by: lena dunham at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (qGuLD)

227 AOP, May I ask you a gear ratio question? Not automotive.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (hjzvx)

228 Trying to decide to bail on it and find another,

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (aC6Sd)

229 Well, home safe,,, and mostly sound, from the Nashville.

Fine place to visit.
Wouldn't want to live there.
Waaay too big for this small town, Kansas kid.

Bluegrass Underground concert was good. My friend said that he thought Darrell kind of 'mailed it in' a bit compared to what he's used to from him.
That's mailing it in?

Had a breakfast at Puckett's and a fried chicken dinner at Loveless Cafe. Also a fine rib dinner at a place I'm too tired to remember right now.
Discussions already going about where we go on the next, band paid for, trip.

Oh, also played a little Taylor in Gruhn's that I may just have to grab at my more local store, Mass Street Music.

Posted by: teej Kuralt at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM (RQEuo)

230 Ace lusts for my ample love flesh.
Posted by: lena dunham at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (qGuLD)

Ace has been complaining of dehydration too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM (ycWCI)

231 If Rugby was a winter sport an enterprising cable channel might pick a winner.



Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 07:47 PM


I was listening to a soccer enthusiast saying that he liked Australian rules football, but her really like Gaelic football.

Gaelic (Irish) football is soccer that allows touching the ball, carrying the ball if you dribble it, and allows tackling.

I always thought that was what was missing from soccer, really.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM (2K6fY)

232 Alas, my membership was only recently upgraded from Damp Pasteboard to Recycled Plastic Deluxe, and lacking a rulebook I merely blunder about in the Outer Darkness.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM (Ktb8D)

233 Oops, goodbye Charlie.

Posted by: teej at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM (RQEuo)

234 ATTENTION: Gear ratio questions must be directed to the Horde at large.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Protocol Enforcement Ministry at November 19, 2017 08:02 PM (+0jcH)

235 ... i think loretta can take care of herself.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 19, 2017 08:02 PM (AxFdW)

236 Gaelic (Irish) football is soccer that allows touching the ball, carrying the ball if you dribble it, and allows tackling.

I always thought that was what was missing from soccer, really.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM (2K6fY)



What's missing from soccer is any compelling reason to watch it unless you want to be bored out of your skull

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 08:03 PM (SiINZ)

237 Did someone say beer ratio? *hic*

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at November 19, 2017 08:03 PM (Tyii7)

238 Alas, my membership was only recently upgraded from Damp Pasteboard to Recycled Plastic Deluxe, and lacking a rulebook I merely blunder about in the Outer Darkness.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7


Oh blinding light
Oh light that blinds
I cannot see
Look out for me

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:03 PM (S6Pax)

239 Ace has been complaining of dehydration too.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM


Every time he thinks of me he loses some fluid.

Posted by: lena dunham at November 19, 2017 08:04 PM (qGuLD)

240 227
AOP, May I ask you a gear ratio question? Not automotive.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (hjzvx)


I predict the ratio of serious to non-serious responses at 1:9

Posted by: Miklos, the proportional Molnar at November 19, 2017 08:04 PM (zCyNd)

241 239 Ace has been complaining of dehydration too.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM


Every time he thinks of me he loses some fluid.
Posted by: lena dunham at November 19, 2017 08:04 PM (qGuLD)

Spit and urine are fluids.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:05 PM (ycWCI)

242 @192: "So someone named Zinzi Clemmons is no longer going to write for Lenny Letter because Lena Dunham is racist?"

Not just Lena Dunham, but basically all of the young, white hipsters in Girls; writers, producers, cameo actors, males, females, everyone.

Worse, they've all been "plausibly deniable racists" in a sock jock or mean comedian way for years, but everyone was too scared to call them on their shit, or they were mocked as triggered snowflakes when they did.

Story might not be true, but it's also too good to confirm, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:05 PM (I/iGu)

243 Irish guy I was sitting with at hurling thing today said all the players were amateurs and played int their spare time, and were treated like heroes in their home counties-it is a big deal there and they are honored to play for their counties. And everyone stood and cheered for the Irish and US anthems.

Nearly froze our butts off, but a fun day.

What a contrast to the NFL.

Posted by: Goldilocks at November 19, 2017 08:06 PM (zz1sH)

244 ATTENTION: Gear ratio questions must be directed to the Horde at large.

Posted by: The AoSHQ Protocol Enforcement Ministry at November 19, 2017 08:02 PM (+0jcH)


Unless you are 18, keep it under 25 lbs. You can go with more if you have a canoe, mule or a pack-horse, but really, even then unless you are planning a long trip, keep it simple.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:07 PM (2K6fY)

245 Great weekend! The wife and baby boys visited from Texas, and put we put an offer on a house in the great city of Columbus for 10K less than asking, and it was accepted without counteroffer!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM (BoMuO)

246 Girlfriend in Highschool favorite movie was Clueless. She could have been Alicia Silverstone's clone and dumb as a box of rocks as well.
Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 07:40 PM (g4lFK)


Clueless was one of the better films of the summer of '95. I was forced to watch it -- not by a girlfriend unfortunately, but because of the nasty Midwestern heatwave that year. I didn't have air conditioning and survived by spending countless hours in movie theaters.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM (EzdLW)

247 Congratulations Cat Ass!
Try not to spoil the kiddos too much!

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM (MYss1)

248 I remember the good old days of highschool of pretty girls, drinking beer, and riding lawmower games of chicken.

And then when the sun went down, we danced the tango and even salsa.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM (g4lFK)

249 241 239 Ace has been complaining of dehydration too.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:01 PM


Every time he thinks of me he loses some fluid.
Posted by: lena dunham at November 19, 2017 08:04 PM (qGuLD)

Spit and urine are fluids.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:05 PM (ycWCI)

As is vomitus.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM (NWiLs)

250 Well finally looks like my dreaded wish of girl on girl attack took place if I am getting this right.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 08:09 PM (aC6Sd)

251 I like American rules Cricket.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:09 PM (BoMuO)

252 If Rugby were a winter sport
Like luge or ski or other sorts
And as in Rugby, win or lose
The final score was lots of booze

Posted by: Miklos, intern at November 19, 2017 08:09 PM (zCyNd)

253 Oh blinding light

Oh light that blinds

I cannot see

Look out for me

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:03 PM (S6Pax)

Dear friends . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:09 PM (2K6fY)

254 @197: "And after running that company into the ground she walked away with over a $100 million payout."

Sadly, just a drop in the bucket compared to the $165 billion that AOL spent on Time Warner in 2000.

Just so, so, so fucking crazy to think that someone, anyone, thought that was a good idea back then.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:10 PM (I/iGu)

255 'Gear ratio questions'

Three to one usually works for me. More than that it starts to get crowded for the little buggers.

Posted by: Richard Gere at November 19, 2017 08:10 PM (UdKB7)

256 Paul freaking Rudd was in Clueless IICR, which I should since I watched it with gf everytime it came on cable.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 08:10 PM (g4lFK)

257 AOP, May I ask you a gear ratio question? Not automotive.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:00 PM (hjzvx)

Sure. Don't know how much wisdom I have though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (oPNmq)

258 Gear ratios sound vaguely like math. Is that allowed?

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (VDQek)

259 @234- OK , long story longer. I had a manufacturing company build me an industrial shredder. 52 blades on a shaft. Started out with a Briggs Stratton motor so it would be self contained. I'm processing 3 ply brown paper feed sacks. Guy tells me I can run 20 thicknesses through at a time. I can run one. Fail . Gearing is 4 to 1. They switch to a 2 hp electric motor 220 electric. I have no 220 in the barn so I have to run this thing off a generator. OK, now I can run 2 thickness's at a time. All of a sudden the chain drive is bouncing up and down and it is screwing with the cutting process. 2nd post coming

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (hjzvx)

260 Paul freaking Rudd was in Clueless IICR, which I should since I watched it with gf everytime it came on cable.


All the guys were drooling over Alicia Silverstone. I think Brittany Murphy was the understated cutie in that movie. Too bad she turned into a druggie and OD'd.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (BoMuO)

261 Gear ratios sound vaguely like math. Is that allowed?


It's math with teeth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (+0jcH)

262 259 @234- OK , long story longer. I had a manufacturing company build me an industrial shredder. 52 blades on a shaft. Started out with a Briggs Stratton motor so it would be self contained. I'm processing 3 ply brown paper feed sacks. Guy tells me I can run 20 thicknesses through at a time. I can run one. Fail . Gearing is 4 to 1. They switch to a 2 hp electric motor 220 electric. I have no 220 in the barn so I have to run this thing off a generator. OK, now I can run 2 thickness's at a time. All of a sudden the chain drive is bouncing up and down and it is screwing with the cutting process. 2nd post coming
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (hjzvx)

42

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (ANIFC)

263 Clueless was one of the original "smart media people who write too much about television" stories that Ace likes to tweet about these days.

There were actual college courses about Clueless, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Dawson's Creek.

Back when liberal arts college cost half as much too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (I/iGu)

264 Isn't that funny? Its just like the fact that Target's permanent drop in traffic had absolutely nothing to do with a boycott over its SJW dressing room policies.
Posted by: Cicero
-----------------

See: J.C. Penney fires CEO after plummeting sales following gay ad campaign

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 08:14 PM (9tO1t)

265 Gearing is 4 to 1. They switch to a 2 hp electric motor 220 electric. I have no 220 in the barn so I have to run this thing off a generator. OK, now I can run 2 thickness's at a time. All of a sudden the chain drive is bouncing up and down and it is screwing with the cutting process. 2nd post coming
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (hjzvx)



Sounds like you need either a sprocket adjustment or a lawyer, not sure which.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 08:14 PM (+0jcH)

266 All the guys were drooling over Alicia Silverstone. I think Brittany Murphy was the understated cutie in that movie. Too bad she turned into a druggie and OD'd.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (BoMuO)

She played LuAnn in "King of The Hill." Her husband was played by Tom Petty, who is also now mort.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 08:14 PM (ANIFC)

267 52 blades on a shaft.


You need slingblades, some people call it a Kaiser blade.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:14 PM (BoMuO)

268 Where'd she get that 3% number? Seriously, is there even a study, or any actual data collected? Sounds like something that came out of her soft doughy posterior.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:14 PM (39g3+)

269 >>Yahoo has to be one of the biggest infestations of raw stupidity on
the face of the earth. Even their sports reporters are now all just
lefty bilge

Halt and Catch Fire finale - Yahoo? YAHOO!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epj8OzP6z-M

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 08:15 PM (W+vEI)

270 Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (hjzvx)
---------
Have you considered smaller feed sacks?

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 08:15 PM (Sfs6o)

271 While our first instinct is to listen to every woman's story, our insider knowledge of Murray's situation makes us confident that sadly this accusation is one of the 3 percent of assault cases that are misreported every year.

========

Is there a citation for this statistic, or did she pull it out from you know where?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 08:15 PM (/qEW2)

272 261
Gear ratios sound vaguely like math. Is that allowed?





It's math with teeth.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (+0jcH)

At your service!

Posted by: Cogswell Cogs at November 19, 2017 08:15 PM (zCyNd)

273 Clueless was one of the better films of the summer of '95.
Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM (EzdLW)

Yep, I ordinarily can't stand teen movies, or ones set in Beverly Hills, but Clueless is pretty decent if you can get past all that. It's based on Jane Austen's Emma. Not saying it's for everyone but you can do a lot worse.

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 08:15 PM (6HFDU)

274 Stacy Dash >. Alicia Silverstone

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 08:15 PM (g4lFK)

275 52 blades?

Nobody uses 52 blades anymore.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 08:16 PM (+0jcH)

276 Murray Miller's middle name is Selig. Who would name their kid after an MLB Commissioner? His parents must've wanted him to get beat up a lot at school.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:16 PM (EzdLW)

277 Brittney Murphy was really cute, and she was more interesting on screen than Alicia Silverstone. But the prettiest girl was Stacy Dash

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:16 PM (39g3+)

278 234- OK , long story longer. I had a manufacturing
company build me an industrial shredder. 52 blades on a shaft.
Started out with a Briggs Stratton motor so it would be self contained.
I'm processing 3 ply brown paper feed sacks. Guy tells me I can run
20 thicknesses through at a time. I can run one. Fail . Gearing is 4 to
1. They switch to a 2 hp electric motor 220 electric. I have no 220
in the barn so I have to run this thing off a generator. OK, now I can
run 2 thickness's at a time. All of a sudden the chain drive is
bouncing up and down and it is screwing with the cutting process. 2nd
post coming

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:12 PM (hjzvx)

First question that comes to mind: can't you just burn them?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:16 PM (oPNmq)

279 What you need is a high bypass ratio turbofan engine. The'll shred anything.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:17 PM (BoMuO)

280
Sounds like you need either a sprocket adjustment or a lawyer, not sure which.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 19, 2017 08:14 PM (+0jcH)

Problems with the sprocket?
JETSON!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mr. Spacely at November 19, 2017 08:17 PM (zCyNd)

281 and put we put an offer on a house in the great city of Columbus for 10K less than asking, and it was accepted without counteroffer!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Where are you moving in Columbus??

Actually in the city or in one of the suburbs?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:17 PM (S6Pax)

282 Cont. I tighten the chain as much as possible and this chain is still jumping up and down. would I have to go to like a 10/1 gear to be able to run it off a gas engine again? Also I think that there has been so bending in the shaft that may also cause the chain jump.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:17 PM (hjzvx)

283 It took hard work to make Brittney Murphy look not pretty in Clueless.

I also have no idea why Stacy Dash did not get more lead roles. She was a 10.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 08:18 PM (g4lFK)

284 This is the time on Sprockets when we dance.

Posted by: Dieter at November 19, 2017 08:18 PM (sdi6R)

285 There were actual college courses about Clueless, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Dawson's Creek.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:13 PM (I/iGu)


Holy loly, if you'd have come up to me on the street back then and said that a college course about Buffy the Vampire Slayer would be looked back on from TYOOL 2017 as the good old days of academic rigor and I would have screamed "STRANGER DANGER" and run to find a grown-up.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 08:18 PM (y87Qq)

286 Yeah, but Stacey isn't even black anymore because she is a republican.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:18 PM (BoMuO)

287 Dear friends . . .
Posted by: Kindltot


I'm not talking hate

I'm talking 8

Dinner at 8

'Cause God-Almighty I'm hungry

Let's Eat!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:19 PM (S6Pax)

288 It's based on Jane Austen's Emma. Not saying it's for everyone but you can do a lot worse.

I haven't seen it but I've heard that 10 Things I Hate About You is good too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:19 PM (39g3+)

289 215 I suspect those first and second generation hispanics have a very, very different view of the United States than their black teammates.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (I/iGu)
-----------------------
Remind me again of the ethnic distribution of IQ scores.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2017 07:57 PM (YqDXo)
-------------------------------------
It has nothing to do with IQ.

You can damned well bet that Colin Kaepernick has a higher IQ than Yasiel Puig. But you can also bet that Puig has a far deeper understanding of what "oppression" actually is.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 08:19 PM (0jtPF)

290 some people call it a Kaiser blade

Mmmm, hmmm.

Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!11!! at November 19, 2017 08:19 PM (Tyii7)

291 Alicia Silverstone broke out in a movie when she was 14 or 15 in IRL when she played the crazy teen stalker. Hollywood was selling her as a sex object in that movie.

Crush.....that's it I believe.

Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 08:20 PM (g4lFK)

292 @264: "See: J.C. Penney fires CEO after plummeting sales following gay ad campaign."

But not really. Penney's CEO was an ex-Apple retail guy who thought he could make lightning strike twice.

He got rid of all their never-ending sales promotions, coupons, etc., and tried some strange "fair pricing" system.

Mall anchor stores have been dying a slow death for decades.

Penney's telling all of their most dedicated customers that they'd been taken advantage, and would now be paying slightly higher prices, was straight up suicide though.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:20 PM (I/iGu)

293 and put we put an offer on a house in the great city of Columbus for 10K less than asking, and it was accepted without counteroffer!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Where are you moving in Columbus??

Actually in the city or in one of the suburbs?



Check your Ohio privilege! This Columbus doesn't have suburbs.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:21 PM (BoMuO)

294 Murray Miller was a writer for King Of The Hill. Seriously.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:21 PM (EzdLW)

295 291 Alicia Silverstone broke out in a movie when she was 14 or 15 in IRL when she played the crazy teen stalker. Hollywood was selling her as a sex object in that movie.

Crush.....that's it I believe.
Posted by: Monk at November 19, 2017 08:20 PM (g4lFK)

I vaguely remember that... Carey Elwes?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:21 PM (ycWCI)

296 165: Prior to Sunday's game against the New England Patriots in Mexico City, Lynch sat during the national anthem and then, according to the Boston Globe's Ben Volin, stood for the Mexican anthem.


Well, Mexico has unparalleled race relations! Unicorns lie down with Orcs and shit. Right?

These NFL guys, not too bright.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 08:21 PM (01Fis)

297 I haven't seen it but I've heard that 10 Things I Hate About You is good too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:19 PM (39g3+)

--It is.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:21 PM (GsAUU)

298 " All of a sudden the chain drive is bouncing up and down and it is screwing with the cutting process."

A spring loaded chain tensioner might help. Go to a motorcycle junkyard they will likely have something that can be Macgyerd into place.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (VDQek)

299 Cont. I tighten the chain as much as possible and
this chain is still jumping up and down. would I have to go to like a
10/1 gear to be able to run it off a gas engine again? Also I think
that there has been so bending in the shaft that may also cause the
chain jump.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:17 PM (hjzvx)

You are probably on the right track with the idea that a bent shaft is making the chain jump. How does the shredder cut? Are there rotating blades that pass through narrow slots so as to cut with a scissors-like action, or is it merely the impacts of fast-moving blades on the sack paper to cut the way a blender works?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (oPNmq)

300 She doesn't even have the standard to have standards.

Attack your 'friend' or defend them. Don't do this sniveling retraction shit. Fucking Millennial loser, man.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (xJa6I)

301 I also have no idea why Stacy Dash did not get more lead roles. She was a 10.

Capable actress too, but she probably didn't put out and is too conservative. Still gorgeous but I doubt she'd let Harvey pull out little Weinstein on her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (39g3+)

302 Check your Ohio privilege! This Columbus doesn't have suburbs.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Columbus , Jorja?

Well, that's different.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (S6Pax)

303 AOP, This process turns those sacks into a marketable product. This product has a higher absorption rate and a faster degradable rate and is free to me if I can get this damn problem worked out.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (hjzvx)

304 Well, Mexico has unparalleled race relations! Unicorns lie down with Orcs and shit. Right?

These NFL guys, not too bright.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 08:21 PM (01Fis)


No... but they have heart.

Posted by: Los Aztecos at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (y87Qq)

305 Cat Ass Trophy

Is the zip code 78934? And it's halfway between Houston and San Antonio?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:23 PM (hyuyC)

306 I'm in the mood for a donkey show.

Posted by: Marshawn Pinch at November 19, 2017 08:23 PM (Tyii7)

307 I only shred stuff with our names on it, so a small Brothers unit suffices. Yo, Tom Servo, you mentioned Greenburgs in previous thread. 10 minutes from our house. This will be our first year not cooking a turkey and etc. Mrs. E says Crackerbarrel on Thanksgivig Day. I concur.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2017 08:23 PM (zLDYs)

308 >>Not just Lena Dunham, but basically all of the young, white hipsters in
Girls; writers, producers, cameo actors, males, females, everyone.

Seem to recall that Dunham was criticized for only having whites on her show after the 1st season. So the next season she had her character (IIRC) date a black guy - but made him an a$$hole Republican. LOL (not). But consider that an example of how she reacted to typical calls for more diversity - she made it a thoroughly unlikeable, disposable character.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 08:25 PM (W+vEI)

309 Make them live by the rules they made to impose on us. Always. No exceptions. Until they beg for mercy & weep for forgiveness. Then, deny both. Just as they've done to us. They wanted WAR so much.

I say give it to them, good and hard.

Posted by: voraciously deplorable at November 19, 2017 08:25 PM (mapAj)

310 @285: "Holy loly ... I would have screamed 'STRANGER DANGER' and run to find a grown-up."

I know, right? I feel dirty just typing it, but yeah, Buffy was studied as a feminism thing. Vox wrote a 20-year anniversary story about her in March. The Atlantic called Buffy a "Third-Wave Feminist Icon" in July 2016.

It's some crazy shit. I can only surmise those writers actually went to some of those college classes ten or fifteen years earlier and decided it'd be cool to write about them again.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:26 PM (I/iGu)

311 For all the crying in the 50's over black lists of Communist movie people they sure seem to have reversed that to now be black listing conservatives

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 08:26 PM (aC6Sd)

312 I used to like Marshawn Lynch when he was with the Seattle Seahuskeys because he refused to speak with the media. Oh well.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:28 PM (EzdLW)

313 AOP, This process turns those sacks into a
marketable product. This product has a higher absorption rate and a
faster degradable rate and is free to me if I can get this damn problem
worked out.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (hjzvx)

Fair enough. So it's not simply a matter of disposal. Have you looked at office/home paper shredders, and simply tried to scale it up? My little paper shredder has a shaft with a stack of discs. I think it meshes with a similar shaft, and cuts the paper into strips with a shearing action. The shafts turn quite slowly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:28 PM (oPNmq)

314 Cat Ass Trophy

Is the zip code 78934? And it's halfway between Houston and San Antonio?


No. Used to like in 78109. Now I live in Columbus, in the state that also has a Springfield.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:28 PM (BoMuO)

315 I was in the Aran Island two years ago in the rain (I KNOW) at one of the 3(!) pubs , population 400. On the 70 inch satellite tv was high school girl's hurling championships. Very action packed and mucho injuries. They take it very seriously. Also, Irish football is a VERY BIG DEAL, not soccer or American football.

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:28 PM (CL76w)

316 I can only surmise those writers actually went to some of those college classes ten or fifteen years earlier and decided it'd be cool to write about them again.

Or just do a slight rewrite of their paper for that class.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:29 PM (39g3+)

317 FYI, Lena's Biscuit is not going to be on the table these holidays as the go-to recipe.

Mmm. Biscuits and gravy. And sausage and eggs. Mmm.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 08:29 PM (bD2SM)

318 She doesn't even have the standard to have standards.

Attack your 'friend' or defend them. Don't do this sniveling retraction shit. Fucking Millennial loser, man.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (xJa6I)


========

The left is destroying all the traditional virtues. Loyalty to friends, love for family members, love of country, etc. No, comrade, your only duty is loyalty to the Party.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 08:29 PM (/qEW2)

319 312 I used to like Marshawn Lynch when he was with the Seattle Seahuskeys because he refused to speak with the media. Oh well.
Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:28 PM (EzdLW)

--Same here. Dude even had a brand of weed named for him.

He was a funny jackass before, and now he's just a jackass.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:29 PM (GsAUU)

320 Cat Ass Trophy

Is there a state without a town or city of Springfield?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:30 PM (hyuyC)

321 288
I haven't seen it but I've heard that 10 Things I Hate About You is good too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 08:19 PM (39g3+)
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10 Things was okay but Clueless is much, much better.
Better writing. Better acting.

10 Things was based on The Taming of the Shrew.
Aloof, feminist girl is softened by the love of a guy she can't push around --- more or less. They had to pull a lot of punches to avoid heresy.

(They couldn't make it at all today, I fear.)



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 08:30 PM (0jtPF)

322 For all the crying in the 50's over black lists of Communist movie people they sure seem to have reversed that to now be black listing conservatives

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 08:26 PM (aC6Sd)



The 50s were the worstest time in our whole history according the the mental defectives of the left. Only because it was a time when we had the commies on the run in this country

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 08:30 PM (SiINZ)

323 10 things....

Larisa Oleynik was another understated cutie that fell off the map.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:31 PM (BoMuO)

324 AOP, 2 shafts, 52 blades on each shaft. They got all of that right as the machine cuts and crimps the paper so it is just what I wanted as a salable product and what little I have been able to produce has exceeded all expectations. I just can't keep this thing running long enough to do anything.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:31 PM (hjzvx)

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 08:32 PM (W+vEI)

326 Ben Had - One picture is worth a thousand words.

You should be able to detect a bent shaft by manually rotating and watching chain tension. Ideally, the chain should have some slack, with a tensioner on the slack side. It sounds as though the the load(s) are intermittently causing a resonance in all of the elastic bits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 08:32 PM (9tO1t)

327 Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:22 PM (hjzvx)

for the arena or stalls?

just curious

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 08:32 PM (MF4DY)

328 Cat Ass Trophy

Is there a state without a town or city of Springfield?



Is there a state without a Columbus?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:33 PM (BoMuO)

329 Besides Kansas? We have a Columbus, but no Springfield.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:33 PM (hyuyC)

330 326 Ben Had - One picture is worth a thousand words.

You should be able to detect a bent shaft by manually rotating and watching



[Beavis and Butt-Head laugh]

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:34 PM (GsAUU)

331 Clueless was one of the better films of the summer of '95.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 08:08 PM


It has one of my favorite lines, which I'm saving for some future occasion when I might need it.

"Hey...you...if anything happens to my daughter, I have a .45 and a shovel. I doubt anyone would miss you."


Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2017 08:34 PM (bQvjO)

332

Lena: Green Eggs and Sperm

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 08:34 PM (qul7b)

333 intermittently causing a resonance in all of the elastic bits.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 08:32 PM (9tO1t)


Anyone who was wondering how to relate homemade industrial shredder advice to the topic at hand in a Lena Dunham thread?

That. That right there. Let him show you how it's done.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 08:34 PM (y87Qq)

334 I saw Bent Shaft open for Chain Jump back in '83.

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 08:34 PM (kUotE)

335 328 Cat Ass Trophy

Is there a state without a town or city of Springfield?



Is there a state without a Columbus?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:33 PM (BoMuO)

--Not sure if Virginia has either.

She's so rich with history that there's no need for a Columbus or Springfield, is my guess.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:35 PM (GsAUU)

336 Besides Kansas? We have a Columbus, but no Springfield.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:33 PM (hyuyC)



You can take ours (Illinois) and all of the idiot politicians with it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 08:35 PM (SiINZ)

337 AOP, I bought a commercial shredder and had them take it apart for the design. This is not a straight cut like a home use shredder. It has a specific size and crimp in it that is perfect.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:35 PM (hjzvx)

338 Besides Kansas? We have a Columbus, but no Springfield.


I knew there was something wrong with Kansas....besides WBC.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM (BoMuO)

339 Carson Wentz

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM (lwiT4)

340 320
Is there a state without a town or city of Springfield?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:30 PM (hyuyC)
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North Dakota.
Hawaii.

(I always answer ND for those "Is there a state without ____" questions. It's a pretty good bet. I threw in Hawaii for excitement.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM (0jtPF)

341 Ben Had, it sounds like the chain and sprocket is what is failing on you.

Check your sprockets for wear, and make sure the chain is correct for your sprockets.
You may want to check the chain is rated for the load you put on it, it might be stretching.

You may want to go talk to a motorcycle mechanic about what the problem is and what he has done to resolve it.

And no, I'm just spitballing.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM (2K6fY)

342 @285 Holy loly, if you'd have come up to me on the street back then and said that a college course about Buffy the Vampire Slayer would be looked back on from TYOOL 2017 as the good old days of academic rigor and I would have screamed "STRANGER DANGER" and run to find a grown-up.
--------------------

At least it was art, after a fashion. I once read an article by a guy who taught a college course about playing Starcraft.

Though in fairness, I'm not sure that the class was worth any credits.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM (cSguU)

343 Can SJWs even live in a "Columbus" without being in permanent catatonia?

Posted by: all the triggering at November 19, 2017 08:37 PM (wpC7C)

344 @316: "Or just do a slight rewrite of their paper for that class."

Heh.

Also worth remembering that Buffy was Josh Whedon's first big break when he was 33. He's been living off those "you're a great male feminist ally" stories for two decades. No wonder he's turned into such a twat; or a bigger twat than he always was.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:37 PM (I/iGu)

345 Nothing worse than a bent shaft.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (kUotE)

346 330 326 Ben Had - One picture is worth a thousand words.

You should be able to detect a bent shaft by manually rotating and watching



[Beavis and Butt-Head laugh]
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:34 PM (GsAUU)


We're not doing phrasing any more, I see.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (sdi6R)

347 Girl who eats cake while sitting on toilet makes shit up.

Posted by: Confucius at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (ZowdV)

348 AOP, 2 shafts, 52 blades on each shaft. They got
all of that right as the machine cuts and crimps the paper so it is
just what I wanted as a salable product and what little I have been able
to produce has exceeded all expectations. I just can't keep this thing
running long enough to do anything.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:31 PM (hjzvx)

So that does sound like a scale-up of an office-type shredder. Do you have e-mail contact with Country Boy? He has my e-mail. If you could e-mail me some pics, I'd be happy to take a look. Kind of outside my normal wheelhouse, but I'm certainly used to kludging up odd machines to accomplish some task I've set myself.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (oPNmq)

349 I knew there was something wrong with Kansas....besides WBC.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM


I know, right?

Posted by: Thomas Frank at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (bQvjO)

350 --Not sure if Virginia has either.

She's so rich with history that there's no need for a Columbus or Springfield, is my guess.



You got a Springfield where 495 and 95 meet south of arlington. No Columbus, probably renamed because...you know.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (BoMuO)

351 Lena Durham - racist

Author Zinzi Clemmons says that she has known Dunham since their college years, and that the two share overlapping social circles. During that time Clemmons says she "avoided those people like the plague because of their racism," adding, "I'd call their strain 'hipster-racism', which typically uses sarcasm as a cover."

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at November 19, 2017 08:39 PM (e8kgV)

352 335----She's so rich with history that there's no need for a Columbus or Springfield, is my guess.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:35 PM (GsAUU)
--------------------------
Well, we certainly have a Springfield. Up in NOVA.
(Yeah, NOVA isn't really VA, but technically.......)
But I don't think we have a Columbus.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 08:39 PM (0jtPF)

353 cat Ass Trophy,

About the founder of WBC:

Fred Phelps was a losing Democratic candidate for Governor of Kansas (5 times), Kansas Federal Senator, and Mayor of Topeka of Kansas (twice) from 1990-1998.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:39 PM (hyuyC)

354
Is there a state without a Columbus?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:33 PM (BoMuO)

No, if you include the Knights of Columbus.

Posted by: Mr. Molnar at November 19, 2017 08:40 PM (zCyNd)

355 Maybe Lena was too busy digging around her littler sister's vagina to notice sexual assaults going on around her.

Posted by: adolfo_velasquez at November 19, 2017 08:40 PM (rDdbV)

356 You got a Springfield where 495 and 95 meet south of arlington. No Columbus, probably renamed because...you know.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (BoMuO)

--Ugh, I've been away from the Old Dominion too long. How do I forget the Franconia-Springfield Metro station?

Still, no Columbus (nor Coluimbia?)

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 08:40 PM (GsAUU)

357 Single chain or double roller? Is the gear end of the shaft supported by bearings on both sides? That would prevent flexing.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 08:41 PM (UdKB7)

358 Is there a state without a Columbus?


Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:33 PM (BoMuO)


Oregon just has a Columbia river and a Columbia county

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:41 PM (2K6fY)

359 Can SJWs even live in a "Columbus" without being in permanent catatonia?



There is so much toxic masculinity in this columbus, SJW's burs into flames as soon as they exit onto I-185.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:41 PM (BoMuO)

360 concrete girl, for stalls. When you mix with shavings you can't even tell its there but it will draw all moisture out of a pee spot on one day, and you know how important that is. It also biodegrades in the pasture at 4 times the rate of shavings. It also has an added cush factor . I managed to make enough to give a sample to a farm that had a horse in the Kentucky Derby and they loved it but I could not supply them.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:41 PM (hjzvx)

361 Thomas Frank is an asshole. He is credentialed, but does not learn from life.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:41 PM (hyuyC)

362 Hipster-racism. I'm sure there are 20 other types to fit every need and situation.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, unwashed savage at November 19, 2017 08:42 PM (89T5c)

363 Single chain or double roller? Is the gear end of the shaft supported by bearings on both sides? That would prevent flexing.
==============================


I have no clue as to what these words might mean.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 08:42 PM (lwiT4)

364 re: Hipster Racism

David Cross got nailed for the same thing a few months ago too.

His wife, Amber Tamblyn, had to walk a fine line between "believe all victims" and "don't call me a racist because I still love my racist husband."

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:42 PM (I/iGu)

365 358 And a Springfield, too!

Posted by: Matt Groening at November 19, 2017 08:42 PM (kUotE)

366 This Columbus doesn't have suburbs.

Montana? Nebraska?

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:43 PM (CL76w)

367 Freaked, single chain and bearings on both sides.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:43 PM (hjzvx)

368 And a Springfield, too!
Posted by: Matt Groening


But...but what about .....Shelbyville?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:44 PM (S6Pax)

369 Sorry, David Cross was last month, not a few months ago.

Social media scandal fatigue must be affecting my memory.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:45 PM (I/iGu)

370 there is a Columbus, ND

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:45 PM (CL76w)

371 Freaked, single chain and bearings on both sides.



That could be the problem. Your shaft is torqued. You need to drive both sides, or use a thicker shaft. Option 1 is mechanically more complicated, option 2 is a heavier machine.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:46 PM (BoMuO)

372 370 there is a Columbus, ND
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:45 PM (CL76w)
-----------------------
Damn.
Just my luck.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 08:46 PM (0jtPF)

373 Ben Had - From your description (assuming shafts not bent) it sounds as though the chopping/shredding load is, well, choppy. Might a flywheel(s) added to the chopping shaft(s) smooth the torque applied to those shafts? That's kind of standard stuff to do in such a case.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 08:47 PM (9tO1t)

374 I got about half done. And then my hands hurt.
Posted by: shibumi


Nature 3

Shibumi 0

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (S6Pax)

You have three hands?

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 08:47 PM (cu8/f)

375 There's a petition to "Rename Columbus, Ohio" on change.org.

Only 220 supporters though.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:47 PM (I/iGu)

376 What I meant is bearings on each side of the gear, so at least 3 bearings per shaft, 2 along side both sides of the gear. There is no way for the shaft to bend or flex while running using that configuration.

If the entire shaft is flexing while under load that's not good and a tensioner is not the fix.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 08:48 PM (UdKB7)

377 368 And a Springfield, too!
Posted by: Matt Groening


But...but what about .....Shelbyville?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 08:44 PM (S6Pax)

How about Brockway, Ogdenville or North Haverbrook?

Posted by: Lyle Lanley at November 19, 2017 08:48 PM (ANIFC)

378 I guess, depending on exactly how things mesh together, the drive sprocket could be in the middle of the shaft.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:49 PM (BoMuO)

379 I've been to Columbus, ND, NB and MT.Drank beer in them all.

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:49 PM (CL76w)

380 Being accused of racism and gender treason within the space of a few days. It's lucky for her she doesn't hold public office.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 08:49 PM (/qEW2)

381 Freaked, single chain and bearings on both sides.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:43 PM (hjzvx)

It might be the chain run is too long for the torque being transmitted, and torsional vibration in the cutter shaft is reflecting back as whip in the chain. Just a WAG. Briggs and Stratton used to make an "IC" line of industrial-grade engines, and many were equipped with a planetary reduction gear of about 4:1. Perhaps such an engine could be direct-couple to your shredder with a flex coupling? Another approach might be hydraulic drive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:49 PM (oPNmq)

382 How about Brockway, Ogdenville or North Haverbrook?

Posted by: Lyle Lanley at November 19, 2017 08:48 PM (ANIFC)


will you settle for Gaston and Wapato?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 08:49 PM (2K6fY)

383 375
There's a petition to "Rename Columbus, Ohio" on change.org.



Only 220 supporters though.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:47 PM (I/iGu)

How in heck does Nike still sell sneakers named 'Cortez"?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (zCyNd)

384 And Murray Miller is thrown under the bus.

Posted by: deepred at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (zs6g5)

385 Driving both ends is not a bad idea either.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (UdKB7)

386
The 50s were the worstest time in our whole history according the the mental defectives of the left. Only because it was a time when we had the commies on the run in this country

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 08:30 PM (SiINZ)


The 20s and 50s: commies at a low point, economy at a high point. Coincidence? I think not!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (1yTcT)

387 Hooterville anyone?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (hyuyC)

388 right on Ben Had...glad i guessed right.
with all the experts around here, i'm sure you'll get it sorted out.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 08:52 PM (MF4DY)

389 there is a Zap, Gackle and Mott in North Dakota, all within about 30 minute drive.

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:52 PM (CL76w)

390 Flush, Kansas is where my broadband link resides.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:53 PM (hyuyC)

391 The '60s promised us futuristic monorails everywhere.

Instead, we got slow light rail between stadiums, airports, and parking lots.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:53 PM (I/iGu)

392 Horsepower can overcome any mechanical problem.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:53 PM (BoMuO)

393 387
Hooterville anyone?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (hyuyC)

We prefer the big city amenities of Bug Tussle.

Posted by: Amazon HQ2 at November 19, 2017 08:53 PM (zCyNd)

394 389 there is a Zap, Gackle and Mott in North Dakota, all within about 30 minute drive.
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:52 PM (CL76w)

There is both a Gnaw Bone and a Cairo, Indiana.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:53 PM (ycWCI)

395 Also a Fertile and Climax Minnesota. Great headline in a local paper-" Fertile girls come to Climax Friday". It was a basketball game.

Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:54 PM (CL76w)

396 We prefer the big city amenities of Bug Tussle.

Pixley is where it's at!

Posted by: Pixley Chamber of Commerce at November 19, 2017 08:54 PM (oVJmc)

397 @392: "Horsepower can overcome any mechanical problem."

Horses know trigonometry?!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:54 PM (I/iGu)

398
Driving both ends is not a bad idea either.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (UdKB7)

If the shaft is bent because it was made too slender, and bent from the wedging action of paper packing between the blades, driving it from both ends won't solve that problem. If the cutting action is a shear, then very stiff shafts are needed, because shearing demands very tight clearances between opposing blades.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:54 PM (oPNmq)

399
387 Hooterville anyone?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:50 PM (hyuyC)

That's Hootersville, darling!

Posted by: Lisa Douglas at November 19, 2017 08:54 PM (e1mEI)

400 There is both a Gnaw Bone and a Cairo, Indiana.



Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:53 PM (ycWCI)
--------------------------

There's a Cairo IL. Maybe they're related.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 08:55 PM (lwiT4)

401 Cat Ass Trophy, You may have just solved this deal. Instead of being geared on one side only it needs to be geared on both sides and that would reduce torque and not allow the shaft to flex and eventually bend.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (hjzvx)

402 347 Girl who eats cake while sitting on toilet makes shit up.
Posted by: Confucius at November 19, 2017 08:38 PM (ZowdV)
**********
Lena Dunham....I'm hoping she washes it down with a quart bottle of Valu-rite.

Posted by: torabora at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (YrlJh)

403 @400: "There's a Cairo IL. Maybe they're related."

Pronounced KAY-ro. The locals will let you know if you don't.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (I/iGu)

404 I propose an engineering field trip/keg party at Ben Had's place.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (9tO1t)

405 You guys know we have a Hell, right?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (y87Qq)

406 nstead of being geared on one side only it needs to
be geared on both sides and that would reduce torque and not allow the
shaft to flex and eventually bend.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (hjzvx)
====================

I was just about to suggest that.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (lwiT4)

407 There's a Cairo IL. Maybe they're related.


Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 08:55 PM (lwiT4)

Washington has both Cle Elum and Sedro Wooley. And Sequim.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (oPNmq)

408 ..very stiff shafts are needed..

*fans self*

Posted by: Kevin Spacy at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (kUotE)

409 389 there is a Zap, Gackle and Mott in North Dakota, all within about 30 minute drive.
Posted by: free tibet, with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 19, 2017 08:52 PM (CL76w)
------------------------------------
Is that where they make Rice Krispies?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (0jtPF)

410 403 @400: "There's a Cairo IL. Maybe they're related."

Pronounced KAY-ro. The locals will let you know if you don't.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (I/iGu)

Not unlike Ver-Sales, Kentucky.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (ycWCI)

411 1.) Judge Moore's accuser had decades to mention this, including previous races and national controversies. But not a peep by anyone, ever--until now. This is unlike, say, Bill Clinton, whose infidelities were commonly discussed.

2.) Unlike Sen. Al Franken's case, there is absolutely no proof. The only "corroboration" is a blatant forgery.

3.) The Media keeps conflating the accuser with women who say Moore was a complete gentleman.

4.) Like Roy Moore, Sen. Dick Blumenthal also dated his wife as a teenager. Both Moore and Blumenthal are still married to those women today. Judging from the Moores' happy marriage, you'd have to say Judge Moore made the right call.

Both Moore and Blumenthal were older Democrat prosecutors, yet you don't hear calls for Blumenthal to resign, do you?

The only difference: Judge Moore changed parties. And stood up for the Actual Constitution.

5.) Not only did these accusers and their sponsors wait through decades, and election after election and national controversy after controversy to tell this fairy tale, they waited until after the primary. Why not talk before the primary when voters could have chosen another Republican? And even after the primary was over, they waited until the deadline for changing candidates had passed.

This is all politics and nothing else.

Except for one other thing; I think this was meant to bootstrap a 40 year-old fraudulent claim into a defeat for Judge Moore and then bootstrap that into the Impeachment of President Trump.

That's why Democrats are trying desperately to throw Bill Clinton and Al Franken overboard. They're screwing up the Narrative.

But, then, that's what happens to liars.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (Ndje9)

412 Amazon HQ2

Bug Tussle.

I traveled with family from Gun Barrel City to Bug Tussle. A native woman of the town was marrying my cousin. Outside of the church there is not much there. Nice country for dairy farming, which is what they do now.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (hyuyC)

413 >>>Hooterville anyone?<<<

My buddy owned the Hooterville Deli. They had a good run.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (bD2SM)

414 Pronounced KAY-ro. The locals will let you know if you don't.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (I/iGu)
========================


Don't I know it. Graduated high school in Little Egypt.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 08:58 PM (lwiT4)

415 408 ..very stiff shafts are needed..

*fans self*
Posted by: Kevin Spacy at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (kUotE)

That's what she said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 08:58 PM (ycWCI)

416
Change the name of Columbus, OH? Sure, if it's changed to, say, Wolverine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 08:58 PM (Eb5YM)

417 "Horsepower can overcome any mechanical problem."
----------

New World Order insists that all power references be expressed in Watts.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 08:58 PM (9tO1t)

418 There is both a Gnaw Bone and a Cairo, Indiana.


French Lick

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 08:58 PM (BoMuO)

419 Columbus, North Dakota
Population: 133 in 2010
May have increased population with the oil fracking

Posted by: Chuck C at November 19, 2017 08:59 PM (0V2ki)

420 409 best guffaw of the day. That was hilarious. Thank you.

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 08:59 PM (kUotE)

421 Columbus, North Dakota

Population: 133 in 2010
====================


I love little towns with population 133.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (lwiT4)

422 So to look at fragmentation in the leftist camp, black feminists have split off from white feminists, white feminists are splitting from white males over the barrage of harassment claims.

Will it go further once white liberals are driven out of the movement? Someone posted a statistic the other day that most black women had been abused by the time they were 18. Will black feminists turn on black men? Will black activists turn against hispanic activists or vice versa? Will anyone stand up to the Muslims?

This could be fun.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (/qEW2)

423 Before a certain independent city came to be, there was an Odd and an Ordinary in Virginia, close to each other.


This will be noted in my upcoming novel.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (GsAUU)

424 Washington has both Cle Elum and Sedro Wooley. And Sequim.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (oPNmq)

And a Vader, a Tumwater and Tenino.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (2K6fY)

425
My buddy owned the Hooterville Deli. They had a good run.


Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 08:57 PM (bD2SM)

Good customers, too. Fine folks.

Posted by: Sam Drucker at November 19, 2017 09:01 PM (zCyNd)

426 Lisa Douglas makes the town change the name to Hootersville.

She was really something.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 09:01 PM (hyuyC)

427 Ben Had, That is what the Horde is for. I accept my commission in Fancy Feast.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 09:01 PM (BoMuO)

428 If it's driven from both end 4 bearings would be need per shaft to prevent flexing at the gear ends.

A center bearing, if feasible, might stop the flex.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:01 PM (UdKB7)

429 Will anyone stand up to the Muslims?
==========================


That would be No.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:01 PM (lwiT4)

430 This could be fun.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (/qEW2)

We need to to put them all in the Octagon, armed with hand grenades.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:01 PM (oPNmq)

431 Do any of you share my opinion that the only reason the left is willing to say Clinton should have resigned from the Presidency is because they want to try to force President Trump to resign over some (soon to materialize) accusers? a la Judge Moore?

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:02 PM (9mZIr)

432 How about Brockway, Ogdenville or North Haverbrook?

Posted by: Lyle Lanley at November 19, 2017 08:48 PM (ANIFC)


You know, we used to call Shelbyville "Morganville", back in the day, when I was barely taller than cow's teat. Only we didn't call cows "cows" back then either - we called them "milk bears".

Now where was I? Oh yeah. Shelbyville! We didn't call it Shelbyville for the longest time, on account of them Shelbyvillians stealing our lemon tree. Only we didn't call them lemons back then either, we called them yellow onions. "Pour me a nice tall glass of yellow-onion-ade," you'd say.

And don't get me started on North, um, North Hav---Zzzzzz....

Posted by: Grampa Simpson at November 19, 2017 09:02 PM (EzdLW)

433 The Moore thing is about flipping that seat so Democrats will have an easier time taking over the Senate and thus court appointments.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 09:02 PM (39g3+)

434 I updated Windows and Firefox. Now my refresh button is all the way over ------> there. I don't like it.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:02 PM (lwiT4)

435 Sorry for the threadjack and Thank You for all of the suggestions and advice.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:03 PM (hjzvx)

436 431 Do any of you share my opinion that the only reason the left is willing to say Clinton should have resigned from the Presidency is because they want to try to force President Trump to resign over some (soon to materialize) accusers? a la Judge Moore?
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:02 PM (9mZIr)

The Russia, Russia, Russia thing must be dead.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:03 PM (MYss1)

437 @414: "Don't I know it. Graduated high school in Little Egypt."

Ah ha! My family lived in Belleville for fifteen years. My dad and I went fishing all over the place within a five hour drive, but spent many weekends down in Williamson County.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:03 PM (I/iGu)

438 Cut And Shoot, TX

Dimebox, TX

Paris, TX

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 19, 2017 09:03 PM (QLvwG)

439 Nobody beats Newfoundland and Labrador.

Traveler's Rest

Heart's Content

Dildo

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

440 375 There's a petition to "Rename Columbus, Ohio" on change.org.

Only 220 supporters though.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:47 PM (I/iGu)


Fine, let's rename it Cortez, then.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

441 Bourbonnais IL became Bourbonnais IL. Totally different. Not kidding.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (lwiT4)

442 401 Cat Ass Trophy, You may have just solved this deal. Instead of being geared on one side only it needs to be geared on both sides and that would reduce torque and not allow the shaft to flex and eventually bend. Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (hjzvx)

I enjoyed this conversation immensely, without understanding a single word.

Posted by: Caliban at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (QE8X6)

443 Do any of you share my opinion that the only reason the left is willing to say Clinton should have resigned from the Presidency

I think they would like that, but its mostly just about trying to have some moral ascendency about calls for Moore to drop out. The Franken thing has thrown a 50 foot cast iron wrench into the works though. And more are coming.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (39g3+)

444 Didja see this? JFK assassination conspiracy fodder:

http://bit.ly/2zSc5Ba

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (Nwg0u)

445 The Russia, Russia, Russia thing must be dead.
Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:03 PM (MYss1)


They will come back to it sooner or later. Probably blaming Trump's event coordinator's second cousin being the bagman between Uranium One and CGI

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:06 PM (2K6fY)

446
This could be fun.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (/qEW2)


True, but when the Stalinists were shooting the Bukharinites, ordinary Russians were still getting arrested and sent to the Kolyma.

If, God forbid, the Left gets back into power there won't be the least trace of restraint in how they deal with white, Judeo-Christian cishets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 09:06 PM (Eb5YM)

447 Fine, let's rename it Cortez, then.
Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (sdi6R)

Pizarro, Ohio has a nice ring.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:06 PM (ycWCI)

448 Alberta:


Three Hills, Round Hill, Hairy Hill, Hand Hills, Foothills, Kneehill, Spy Hill. Plus others.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:06 PM (oPNmq)

449 Intercourse, PA.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:07 PM (MYss1)

450 It makes me laugh that they are still trying to nail Trump on sexual harassment because to this day not one creditable accuser has come forward. Not only that, the "grab em by the pussy comment" was guy talk from when he was a realty television star and it was not a confession of guilt.
Trump is inoculated against this sort of thing because he was a known playboy whose sexual and dating escapades were played out and covered by the NY tabloids in the 70's and '80's.
He never had to physically "grab 'em by the pussy." They went willingly.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:07 PM (mc8++)

451 403 @400: "There's a Cairo IL. Maybe they're related."

Pronounced KAY-ro. The locals will let you know if you don't.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 08:56 PM (I/iGu)

Corn syrup capital of the nation.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:07 PM (NWiLs)

452 448 Alberta:


Three Hills, Round Hill, Hairy Hill, Hand Hills, Foothills, Kneehill, Spy Hill. Plus others.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:06 PM (oPNmq)

I like 'hills'.

Posted by: Canada at November 19, 2017 09:07 PM (ycWCI)

453
Traveler's Rest



Heart's Content



Dildo

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)
To reach Climax, you have to travel to NC (near Greensboro)

Posted by: high mileage Miklos at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (zCyNd)

454 Romney. McMuffin. Flake. will someone enlighten me as to why the Mormons HATE Trump so much?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (mc8++)

455 448 Alberta:


Three Hills, Round Hill, Hairy Hill, Hand Hills, Foothills, Kneehill, Spy Hill. Plus others.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:06 PM (oPNmq)

--It's not a funny name, but I *love* Crow's Nest Pass. it's one of the most evocative place names I know. I should make a list.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (GsAUU)

456 454 Romney. McMuffin. Flake. will someone enlighten me as to why the Mormons HATE Trump so much?
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (mc8++)

Yes, why is their magic underwear in a bunch?

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:09 PM (MYss1)

457 There is a Houston, DE. Pronounced How-ston. The folks in Tx have it wrong, apparently, having never met the gentleman.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 09:10 PM (BoMuO)

458 Do any of you share my opinion that the only reason the left is willing to say Clinton should have resigned from the Presidency


-
It's like that scene in Schindler's List were the Nazis are going to shoot Jews until somebody tells who stole the turnip (or whatever the hell it was) and after they shoot the first Jew, he is identified as the thief.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:10 PM (Nwg0u)

459
Loafers Glory

Happy Valley

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 09:10 PM (9tO1t)

460 @ Ben Had.

1. What is the shaft diameter?

2. How long (in inches) are the shafts?

3.. What is the longest span (in inches) between bearings along the shaft?

4. Does the drive chain appear to be closer in size to a) "bicycle chain", or b) "motorcycle chain"?

5. Are the sprockets driving the end of a given shaft, or driving the center of the shaft?



* AOP's suggesting of a hydraulic drive is possible genius. That really dampens a hell of a lot of harmonic feedback from resonating throughout the system.

* Hoof nippers are neatly welded back to dimension, ground down to contour, and await only sharpening and polishing. I think you'll like the result.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2017 09:10 PM (QzJWU)

461 >>>I enjoyed this conversation immensely, without understanding a single word

it beats the original topic

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 09:11 PM (MF4DY)

462
Romney. McMuffin. Flake. will someone enlighten me as to why the Mormons HATE Trump so much?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (mc8++)


Maybe it's the coffee.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 09:11 PM (8BoWt)

463 440
Fine, let's rename it Cortez, then.
Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (sdi6R)
---------------------------
Or...... Trumpus !!!!
Trumpus, Ohio!
Nice ring to it!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 09:11 PM (0jtPF)

464 What's the oddest place you've ever lived? For me it would have to be Long Island, Suffolk County. Oh my gosh. When we first moved there back in the 80's, some folks asked us out to dinner. I put on the nicest dress I had, and waited for them to pick us up for the evening. They came to the door, and the wife said - "Don't worry. We have plenty of time for you to change."


I had nothing nicer to change into. These LI people are obsessed with money and wealth and status.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:11 PM (lwiT4)

465 the reason I ask--I truly couldn't believe they were making that 'about-face' and condemning Bill Clinton, until

1) yesterday I skimmed the AP editorial above the fold on both the local papers that actually said something like, "The Powerful are Falling from Grace because of Sexual Assault accustations--Why Not Trump?"

and 2) a liberal radio host being interviewed on Tucker a couple days ago about the left's new disavowal of Clinton tried to then go there, saying in essence they were coming for "the current president" next.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:11 PM (9mZIr)

466

Romney. McMuffin. Flake. will someone enlighten me as to why the Mormons HATE Trump so much?

Don't forget that phony cocksucker Glenn Beck.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:12 PM (gdzWc)

467 Ben Had.



1. What is the shaft diameter?



2. How long (in inches) are the shafts?



Damn, this is dirtier than the ONT.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 09:12 PM (oVJmc)

468 Didja see this? JFK assassination conspiracy fodder:



http://bit.ly/2zSc5Ba

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:05 PM (Nwg0u)

Did you notice that, back in 1963, the Secret Service was still using an 1956 Cadillac for parade duty? Can't imagine that sort of frugality in government work today.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:12 PM (oPNmq)

469 There's a Kay-ro Georgia. Also Rome, Sparta, Athens.

Ever been to Two Egg Insomniac?

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:12 PM (UdKB7)

470 467 Ben Had.



1. What is the shaft diameter?



2. How long (in inches) are the shafts?


Damn, this is dirtier than the ONT.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 09:12 PM (oVJmc)

Girthy!

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:13 PM (NWiLs)

471 The Russia, Russia, Russia thing must be dead.
Posted by: ALH



NEVER!! IT WILL NEVER DIE!!! RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA!!! AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

{starts banging head on padded wall, strains mightily on straitjacket.}

Posted by: CNNMSNBC at November 19, 2017 09:13 PM (01Fis)

472 @431: "Do any of you share my opinion that the only reason the left is willing to say Clinton should have resigned from the Presidency is because they want to try to force President Trump ..."

Honestly? No, and I think they're scared shitless of Hillary 2020.

Something changed during the summer. The left realized she's not going to fade away on her own. They trying to make her radioactive so she won't help campaign in 2018 and take credit for any Democratic wave.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:13 PM (I/iGu)

473 Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:14 PM (/qEW2)

474 1. What is the shaft diameter?
2. How long (in inches) are the shafts?

You know why women can't measure?

It's because all their lives they've been told that this ________________________ is eight inches.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:14 PM (MYss1)

475 "Not only that, the "grab em by the pussy comment" was guy talk from when
he was a realty television star and it was not a confession of guilt."

And a truth about gold diggers. You cant grab any random pussy but many would be willing. And 2 scoops probably had a pretty god sense which ones were.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 09:14 PM (VDQek)

476
I don't have a high opinions of MOR-mons ( I pronounce it like they're an alien race because they just might be).

The last time I disparriaged MOR-mons here a long time ago, our one and only MOR-mon, "bonhomme," took offense.

So I shall refrain...

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:14 PM (gdzWc)

477 Waywayseecapo, Manitoba.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)

478 Waywayseecapo, Manitoba.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:15 PM (GsAUU)
=============================

Duh. Canada.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (lwiT4)

479 469 There's a Kay-ro Georgia. Also Rome, Sparta, Athens.

Ever been to Two Egg Insomniac?
Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:12 PM (UdKB7)

Can't say as I have. I've been to Christmas though.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (NWiLs)

480 Hood, California. pop 200 someday the levee will break.....

Posted by: torabora at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (jnb7d)

481 Dunham, wrong on so many levels.

-
Ugly all the way to the bone.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (Nwg0u)

482 Bethlehem, GA is close to where we live.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (MYss1)

483 Something changed during the summer. The left
realized she's not going to fade away on her own. They trying to make
her radioactive so she won't help campaign in 2018 and take credit for
any Democratic wave.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:13 PM (I/iGu)

Not only that. Between the Clintons and Obama's OFA outfit, too much money has been pulled away. They need to stanch the money flow too.

Posted by: just Miklos at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (zCyNd)

484 AOP, Oregon has a Lake Labish. The area was settled by retired Hudson Bay trappers. It is near Keizer.

It's not a city or anything. It used to be a lake, but it was drained. They grow onions there now.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (2K6fY)

485
For all the crying in the 50's over black lists of Communist movie people they sure seem to have reversed that to now be black listing conservatives

It's revenge akin to "affirmative action."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (IqV8l)

486 Can't say as I have. I've been to Christmas though.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (NWiLs)
-----------------------------------

Christmas Michigan? That's not far from our cabin. They used to have Amy the Bear chained up in back but she died.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (lwiT4)

487 482 Bethlehem, GA is close to where we live.
Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (MYss1)

Howdy y'all! Is this here the Christ child?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (NWiLs)

488 Two Egg is in NW Fla. Great grandparents were from there.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (UdKB7)

489 Duh. Canada.
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (lwiT4)


You just made that one up.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (y87Qq)

490
But I'll just say that their Christianity is dubious.

They have that Righteous aspect of Christ down pretty well, but it comes in the form of SELF righteousness.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (gdzWc)

491 486 Can't say as I have. I've been to Christmas though.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (NWiLs)
-----------------------------------

Christmas Michigan? That's not far from our cabin. They used to have Amy the Bear chained up in back but she died.
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (lwiT4)

Nope. Christmas Florida.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (NWiLs)

492 Jim, Shaft diameter, 1 inch. Length 28 inches if I remember correctly. Bearings are on the outside end of the shafts. Bicycle chain. Geared on only one side of the shaft.

I revamped my GE nippers by the method I had mentioned to you. Saved a small fortune that I can now pay you for all of your hard work.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (hjzvx)

493 Trump is inoculated against this sort of thing because he was a known playboy whose sexual and dating escapades were played out and covered by the NY tabloids in the 70's and '80's.


Yep. If the NY tabloids couldn't make anything stick to Trump then those impotent nancy boys and raging harpies that make up the MSM won't either.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (01Fis)

494 Nope. Christmas Florida.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (NWiLs)
=========================

Ahh. So no chained bear?

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (lwiT4)

495
Beck sure loves him some Jesus Christ...

but only when Glenn can use Jesus to beat Other over the head.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (gdzWc)

496 The Horde's been everywhere, man
Tthe Horde's been everywhere...

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (EzdLW)

497 I have watched Al Franken unfairly bracketed with accused serial sexual predators. He and I have been family friends for decades. As a comic, he could be crude. He went too far and apologized. BUT: he is NOT predatory, adores his wife and family and is a lifelong champion of womens rights.
Howard Finemen

=================
HOLD MY BEER

Posted by: Lena Dumbone at November 19, 2017 09:20 PM (2X7pN)

498 Yep. If the NY tabloids couldn't make anything stick to Trump then those impotent nancy boys and raging harpies that make up the MSM won't either.
Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (01Fis)

Donald Trump has been in the public eye since the 80's.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 09:20 PM (MYss1)

499 496
The Horde's been everywhere, man

Tthe Horde's been everywhere...

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (EzdLW)

Don't touch that Horde!! You don't know where it's been!

Posted by: your mother at November 19, 2017 09:20 PM (zCyNd)

500 495
Beck sure loves him some Jesus Christ...

but only when Glenn can use Jesus to beat Other over the head.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (gdzWc)

--Which planet does JC rule in Beck's cosmology?

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:21 PM (GsAUU)

501 Hands Solo

Except to the titular character in this thread. I refuse to go there.

Even if I was coming back from 6 months at sea with 325 of my smelly male neighbors.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 09:21 PM (hyuyC)

502 I've lived in two places named in the song "Route 66": Albuquerque and Edgewood, New Mexico.

they've got Truth or Consequences there.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:21 PM (9mZIr)

503 Everyone talks about the Hollywood Blacklist and what a shame it was, but they leave two things out:
1) The "Blacklist" was not a list that was drawn up by the government. It was the Film Industry that blacklisted the known or suspected commies in the business,
2) Most of the people on the list WERE COMMIES.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:22 PM (mc8++)

504 Christmas Michigan? That's not far from our cabin. They used to have Amy the Bear chained up in back but she died.
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:17 PM (lwiT4)

Nope. Christmas Florida.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (NWiLs)

--I've been to Santa Claus, IN. In Christmastime.

If you dig Christmas lights as I do (I don't care how tacky, I love 'em), it's a feast.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:22 PM (GsAUU)

505 494 Nope. Christmas Florida.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (NWiLs)
=========================

Ahh. So no chained bear?
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:19 PM (lwiT4)

Not that I'm aware of, but some people are into all kinds of kinky stuff.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:23 PM (NWiLs)

506 Something changed during the summer. The left
realized she's not going to fade away on her own. They trying to make
her radioactive so she won't help campaign in 2018 and take credit for
any Democratic wave.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:13 PM (I/iGu)



Weinstein was a Dem bundler, which means he went out and put the arm on people in Hollywood to pay money to the campaign. You know, give me money and not only will the millennium come, but you will get funding for your next production if you play nice, sort of bundling.

My suspicion is that his accusation is revenge from someone who spent money he didn't have to lose to Trump anyways, and when he complained he got told to shut up or never work again.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:23 PM (2K6fY)

507 Beck sure loves him some Jesus Christ...



but only when Glenn can use Jesus to beat Other over the head.


Hey, just like the Left being concerned about sex crimes against women.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 09:23 PM (oVJmc)

508 Sounds like you might need a heftier chain Ben Had. That's a lot of load for a bicycle chain.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:24 PM (UdKB7)

509 Our friends from south of the border have been busy:

An agent with U.S. Border Patrol was killed and another injured when the two came under attack, according to information released Sunday by the agency and U.S. Senator Ted Cruz.

Border Patrol officials said the agents were on patrol in Culberson County in the Big Bend Sector of the Texas border.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:24 PM (Nwg0u)

510

Can you believe that in the year 2017, almost 2018, were still talking about "women's rights" in the USA?

This is like demanding reform today for the rotary crank telephone.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:24 PM (gdzWc)

511
In the TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN we're gonna have black-skinned professional athletes pretending to "protest" racial injustice in the USA.

This is NOT the Future I and You were promised when we were kids.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:25 PM (gdzWc)

512 Jim, Shaft diameter, 1 inch. Length 28 inches if I remember correctly. Bearings are on the outside end of the shafts. Bicycle chain. Geared on only one side of the shaft.

I revamped my GE nippers by the method I had mentioned to you. Saved a small fortune that I can now pay you for all of your hard work.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (hjzvx)




You're gonna want to upgrade those sprockets n' chain to at least a 420 size, and better to go with a 520 chain. Might as well upgrade to the "O-Ring" variant, for better weather endurance & less wear from grit working inside the chain pieces.

Bicycle chain is wholly inadequate to the task you've assigned for this machine.

And yes, a chain tensioner on the slack side of the driveline is an absolute must.

As for the nippers. We'll have to compare notes and outcomes!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (QzJWU)

513 I've been in Hell on Christmas day

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (KCxzN)

514 509 Our friends from south of the border have been busy:

An agent with U.S. Border Patrol was killed and another injured when the two came under attack, according to information released Sunday by the agency and U.S. Senator Ted Cruz.

Border Patrol officials said the agents were on patrol in Culberson County in the Big Bend Sector of the Texas border.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:24 PM (Nwg0u)

--How vibrant.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (GsAUU)

515 Again--. they are wasting their time going after Trump for sex crimes. Not that I think Moore is guilty, but unlike Moore, Trump is not a Bible-thumping moralizer.
Unlike Clinton, he's never been accused of rape or PAID anyone off.
And unlike people like Weinstein, Ratner and Russel Simmons, he never asked for or expected sexual favors from any young woman in exchange for "making her a star."

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (mc8++)

516 Seeing it's Thanksgiving week and all, have I told all you morons just how totally thankful I am for you? Love you guys.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (lwiT4)

517 freaked, that what I paid these guys a shit ton of money to know. I'm just a dumb ass horse trainer.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:27 PM (hjzvx)

518 510 reminds me, I love these old videos curated on YouTube. You'll get a kick out of it, I promise.

https://youtu.be/PuYPOC-gCGA

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 09:27 PM (kUotE)

519 I've been in Hell on Christmas day

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (KCxzN)
-------------------------

Well, that's not good.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:27 PM (lwiT4)

520 Shaft diameter, 1 inch. Length 28 inches

Newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at November 19, 2017 09:28 PM (Tyii7)

521 Ever been to Hell?


https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/hell

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:28 PM (4ZKcy)

522 Can you believe that in the year 2017, almost 2018, were still talking about "women's rights" in the USA?

This is like demanding reform today for the rotary crank telephone.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:24 PM (gdzWc)

That is because 'equality' did not give them the sense of fulfillment they sought. This is the quintessential problem for the left: To keep trying to fill a gaping wound in their soul and yet, day by day, it only grows larger.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:28 PM (ycWCI)

523 453,
"To reach Climax" You get off at exit 88 on I-94 between Kalamazoo and Battle Creek.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 09:28 PM (zOpu5)

524 Upsurge in big quakes predicted for as Earth rotation slows...

TRUMP'S FAULT!!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (Nwg0u)

525 I'm thankful for you, Grammie Winger <3

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (kUotE)

526 Ever been to Hell?
=============


No. And I've never been to Spain. But I kind of like their music.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (lwiT4)

527 Can't say as I have. I've been to Christmas though.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:16 PM (NWiLs)



I've never been to me.

Posted by: Charlene at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (2K6fY)

528
Jim, Shaft diameter, 1 inch. Length 28 inches if I remember correctly.
Bearings are on the outside end of the shafts. Bicycle chain. Geared
on only one side of the shaft.



I revamped my GE nippers by the method I had mentioned to you.
Saved a small fortune that I can now pay you for all of your hard work.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (hjzvx)


IMHO, one inch is too slender for that kind of loading. Shafts made of 3-inch thick-wall tubing would be stiffer. And #60 roller chain would better than bicycle chain.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (oPNmq)

529 This is the quintessential problem for the left: To keep trying to fill a
gaping wound in their soul and yet, day by day, it only grows larger.
=============================


Yup.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:30 PM (lwiT4)

530 Romney. McMuffin. Flake. will someone enlighten me as to why the Mormons HATE Trump so much?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (mc8++)


========

That is weird. He doesn't drink. Maybe his hotels take business away from the Marriott? Maybe they don't like his person. They're straitlaced, and might consider him too vulgar or loud.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:30 PM (/qEW2)

531 Lena's a Fluke II the comedy edition.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 09:30 PM (zOpu5)

532 Let's go to Luckenbach, Texas, with Willie, Waylon and the boys . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 19, 2017 09:31 PM (QLvwG)

533 530
Romney. McMuffin. Flake. will someone enlighten me as to why the Mormons HATE Trump so much?



Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:08 PM (mc8++)



He's better than they are at having multiple wives.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 09:31 PM (zCyNd)

534 476
....The last time I disparriaged MOR-mons here a long time ago, our one and only MOR-mon, "bonhomme," took offense.

So I shall refrain...
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:14 PM (gdzWc)
-----------------------------------------
Good for you!

Bonhomme isn't the only one. There are a couple of others commenting and who knows how many lurking.

My observation is that Mormons as a group are among the strongest supporters of the 'bourgeois' work ethic and American traditionalism.
But like all groups, they have quirks that may send them off the rails occasionally.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 09:31 PM (0jtPF)

535 They're straitlaced, and might consider him too vulgar or loud.



Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:30 PM (/qEW2)
=================

I'm straitlaced and consider him vulgar and loud. And I think he's exactly the right man at the right time.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:31 PM (lwiT4)

536 I actually lived in the real Walla, Walla Washington. Its a real place. Small town, back then about 3000 people. Its grown a lot since then, with lots of vineyards nearby. Got all hoity toity. Then it was a nice kinda rural community with lots of nice farm girls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (39g3+)

537
510 reminds me, I love these old videos curated on YouTube. You'll get a kick out of it, I promise.

https://youtu.be/PuYPOC-gCGA


Wow, a 9+ minute video explaining how to dial a telephone!

But the rotary dial was indeed quite innovative -- before that they used to *click click click* several times on the Thingy to wake up the Operator!



Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (gdzWc)

538 'freaked, that what I paid these guys a shit ton of money to know. I'm just a dumb ass horse trainer.'

Tell them about what Jim said. From what you described that sounds like good advice.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (UdKB7)

539 No. And I've never been to Spain. But I kind of like their music.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (lwiT4)

.. but it really doesn't matter.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (T71PA)

540 I'm thankful for you grammie!

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (4ZKcy)

541 511
In the TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN we're gonna have black-skinned professional athletes pretending to "protest" racial injustice in the USA.

This is NOT the Future I and You were promised when we were kids.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:25 PM (gdzWc)

No shit. We were promised flying cars, housemaid robots and city-wide pressure tube transportation systems.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

542 516 Seeing it's Thanksgiving week and all, have I told all you morons just how totally thankful I am for you? Love you guys.
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (lwiT4)

--Jesus and Mary adore you!

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (GsAUU)

543 529 This is the quintessential problem for the left: To keep trying to fill a
gaping wound in their soul and yet, day by day, it only grows larger.

Embrace the abyss instead of trying to fill it. You'll be far more content.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

544 how much vodka today grammie ?

Posted by: chorizo breath at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (qOB6z)
========================

Two glasses of wine and I'm on eggnog number 3

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:34 PM (lwiT4)

545 516 Seeing it's Thanksgiving week and all, have I told all you morons just how totally thankful I am for you? Love you guys.
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (lwiT4)

As shucks. Love you too. You're a wonderful person.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:35 PM (NWiLs)

546 AOP, I agree with the shaft being too small. When they told me I could process 20 thicknesses at a time and in reality could only process one something wasn't up to load capacity. They then told me that maybe I need another set of blades at $5,000 a round.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (hjzvx)

547 As shucks. Love you too. You're a wonderful person.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:35 PM (NWiLs)
------------------------------------

I'm a wretch. Just forgiven, is all. Thank God.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (lwiT4)

548 Two glasses of wine and I'm on eggnog number 3
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:34 PM (lwiT4)

Eggnog. Yecccch. Like a cup of spiced mucus.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

549 Has Lena Dunham ever had a Texas Titty Twister?

Posted by: torabora at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (jnb7d)

550 @431 Do any of you share my opinion that the only reason the left is willing to say Clinton should have resigned from the Presidency is because they want to try to force President Trump to resign over some (soon to materialize) accusers? a la Judge Moore?
---------------------------------

Alternately, they're trying to make sure that Hillary doesn't try to run in 2020 by going after someone who's closely linked to her (and a natural campaigner, as well).

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (cSguU)

551 546 AOP, I agree with the shaft being too small.

Seriously, are we not doing "phrasing" anymore?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:37 PM (NWiLs)

552 Ever been to Hell?
=============

Does Flint MI count? I was born there.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 09:37 PM (VDQek)

553
No shit. We were promised flying cars, housemaid robots and city-wide pressure tube transportation systems.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

I want this world too.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:37 PM (4ZKcy)

554 Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (mc8++)

Bible thumper moralizer? Sheesh

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 19, 2017 09:37 PM (2DOZq)

555 2) a liberal radio host being interviewed on Tucker a couple days ago about the left's new disavowal of Clinton tried to then go there, saying in essence they were coming for "the current president" next.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:11 PM (9mZIr)


========

Could be part of the attempt to get rid of Hillary, and they realized "We could use this help out with the impeachment project".

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:38 PM (/qEW2)

556 Eggnog. Yecccch. Like a cup of spiced mucus.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (NWiLs)
=======================

Rev made a batch. Sad puppy face and all. What can I do.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:38 PM (lwiT4)

557 *Looks around*

*Drat, missed the food thread*

*Hmm, past comment 100*

Any of y'all have a recipe for a cold wine punch?

Asking for my wife.

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:38 PM (WDy4l)

558 I'm on eggnog number 3

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:34 PM (lwiT4)

Do you make it yourself, or are you drinking the premade stuff (which I find too sweet)?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (wYseH)

559 557 *Looks around*

*Drat, missed the food thread*

*Hmm, past comment 100*

Any of y'all have a recipe for a cold wine punch?

Asking for my wife.
Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:38 PM (WDy4l)

Chilled Boone's Farm and a haymaker.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (NWiLs)

560 Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

Musk will get you that tube transportation if you would just agree to subsidize him a few billion dollars.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (2DOZq)

561 @450 He never had to physically "grab 'em by the pussy." They went willingly.
-------------------

That was actually what he was saying. Women were basically acting incredibly forward toward him.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (cSguU)

562 Morons who don't like Gershwin.

Morons who don't like biscuits.

Morons who don't like egg nog.

Is this Bizarro World?

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (GsAUU)

563 AOP, I agree with the shaft being too small. When
they told me I could process 20 thicknesses at a time and in reality
could only process one something wasn't up to load capacity. They
then told me that maybe I need another set of blades at $5,000 a round.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (hjzvx)


Possible dumb idea: Cut existing shafts in half to 14 inches, and have 2 sets of cutters, and two feed hoppers. Cut your bags in half lengthwise by stacking them, and passing the stack through a table saw.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (oPNmq)

564 " $5,000 a round."

Holy crap! For that I could build a gear driven V8 powered shredder that would eat plywood like crackers.

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (UdKB7)

565 Do you make it yourself, or are you drinking the premade stuff (which I find too sweet)?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (wYseH)
=======================

Do I make it myself??? Have you met me ?!?!?

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (lwiT4)

566 560 Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:32 PM (NWiLs)

Musk will get you that tube transportation if you would just agree to subsidize him a few billion dollars.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (2DOZq)

Do I look like a congressman to you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (NWiLs)

567 >>>When they told me I could process 20 thicknesses at a time and in reality could only process one

you were given an expectation and they failed.
sounds like a job for Insomniac.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (MF4DY)

568 @483: "Between the Clintons and Obama's OFA outfit, too much money has been pulled away. They need to stanch the money flow too."

There's a low-level civil war right now in the Democratic Party between their establishment and populist wing; funny how a few wins in New Jersey and Virginia can simmer things down.

The 2016 surge in small donations from the Bernie crowd hasn't gone anywhere, and will be expanded in 2018, and there's plenty of establishment money from former Obama and Clinton backers who won't support the Clintons any longer.

The problem? Neither side will be able to paper over the party schism if Hillary runs again. It would become an all out war.

The smart people in their party know it'd be a nasty, self-destructive affair, and likely fatal come the general election in 2020, so they're trying to muscle Hillary and Bill out sooner than later.

Gotta make room for a populist who can be co-opted by the establishment or an establishment figure who can be stomached by the radicals.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (I/iGu)

569 Chilled Boone's Farm and a haymaker.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (NWiLs)

Thanks Insomniac.

Now I gotta admit my ignorance.

What is a haymaker?

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (WDy4l)

570
Posted by: freqked


And how mush booze have YOU had today?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (gdzWc)

571 Morons who don't like Gershwin.

Morons who don't like biscuits.

Morons who don't like egg nog.

Is this Bizarro World?
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (GsAUU)

What the hell's the matter with you people?

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (T71PA)

572 Do you make it yourself, or are you drinking the premade stuff (which I find too sweet)?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (wYseH)

I will confess I have become addicted to the Evan Williams version. Tasty.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (ycWCI)

573 562 Morons who don't like Gershwin.

Morons who don't like biscuits.

Morons who don't like egg nog.

Is this Bizarro World?
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (GsAUU)

The consistency of egg nog is revolting. I prefer dairy products that don't resemble post-nasal drip in texture.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

574 Morons who don't like Gershwin.
-----------------------------------


Who in the wide world of sports doesn't like Gershwin??

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (lwiT4)

575 you were given an expectation and they failed.
sounds like a job for Insomniac.
Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (MF4DY)

*cue A-Team music*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (ycWCI)

576 @506: "My suspicion is that his accusation is revenge from someone who spent money he didn't have to lose to Trump anyways, and when he complained he got told to shut up or never work again."

Or multiples someones, many of whom were not too keen on Hillary in the first place, but did what they were told like good little soldiers.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:43 PM (I/iGu)

577 AOP, I agree with the shaft being too small. When they told me I could process 20 thicknesses at a time and in reality could only process one something wasn't up to load capacity. They then told me that maybe I need another set of blades at $5,000 a round.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:36 PM (hjzvx)




20 thicknesses?

That's a 2 in. shaft, and a 3 hp, 220 v. three-phase motor with a reduction gear, just to power through that kind of load.

The sideplates which form the structure and carry the shafts damn well better be 1/4" thick, high-tensile steel. And 5/16" would be a skosh better.

This machine sounds like a beautifully designed, but sadly under-spec'ed bit of mechanical engineering.

I'd also really like to see what the blade system looks like, given that they're charging $5k for the set.

Sounds like me n' AoP might have to convoy in from North n' South?

Have tools, will travel.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2017 09:43 PM (QzJWU)

578 Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

Dozen oysters on the half shell washed down with a large glass of eggnog .

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 19, 2017 09:43 PM (2DOZq)

579 554, I didn't mean that as a bad thing. But whatever, Trump is not a Bible-thumping moralizer so the hypocrisy angle won't work on him.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:44 PM (mc8++)

580 569 Chilled Boone's Farm and a haymaker.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (NWiLs)

Thanks Insomniac.

Now I gotta admit my ignorance.

What is a haymaker?
Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (WDy4l)

A punch similar to a hook but with a straighter arm and less controlled. They throw lots of these in old cowboy movies.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

581 @476 The last time I disparriaged MOR-mons here a long time ago, our one and only MOR-mon, "bonhomme," took offense.
------------------------

Bonhomme and I aren't the only Mormons who post around here.

As for why there are Latter-Day Saints who don't like Trump? Why do you blindly assume that we're all the same? Has Mia Love complained about Trump?

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (cSguU)

582 I seem to have finally reached my limit on how much I will pay for a kindle book. A new one in a series I quite enjoy just came out... $16.99. For the kindle version. Nope.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (ycWCI)

583 Sorry but I've got to check out. Thanks to everyone.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (hjzvx)

584 Who in the wide world of sports doesn't like Gershwin??


Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (lwiT4)

Ger-schwing!

Posted by: Die Welt von Wayne at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (oPNmq)

585 'Posted by: freqked
And how mush booze have YOU had today?'

None at all. Why dou you ashk?

Posted by: freqked at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (UdKB7)

586 578 Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

Dozen oysters on the half shell washed down with a large glass of eggnog .
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 19, 2017 09:43 PM (2DOZq)

Mmm...loogies and snot. Delicious.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (NWiLs)

587 >>> Who in the wide world of sports doesn't like Gershwin??

Insolent noise.

Posted by: fluffy at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (cHbmY)

588 So like totally...

Time for Lena to remake that Gena Davis and Jeff Goldblum movie Earth Girls are Easy???

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (Edyyb)

589 The consistency of egg nog is revolting. I prefer dairy products that don't resemble post-nasal drip in texture.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (NWiLs)

--That's why you add the rum!

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (GsAUU)

590 583 Sorry but I've got to check out. Thanks to everyone.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (hjzvx)

Night, Ben Had.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (ycWCI)

591 I will confess I have become addicted to the Evan Williams version. Tasty.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (ycWCI)

Yep. Just finished the last EW eggnog for the night.

Gonna have to get more for the weekend, which begins Tuesday @5CST

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:46 PM (WDy4l)

592
Bonhomme and I aren't the only Mormons who post around here.

Oh there are more?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 09:47 PM (gdzWc)

593 575 you were given an expectation and they failed.
sounds like a job for Insomniac.
Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (MF4DY)

*cue A-Team music*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (ycWCI)

I guess this means I have to get a van.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

594 579 554, I didn't mean that as a bad thing. But whatever, Trump is not a Bible-thumping moralizer so the hypocrisy angle won't work on him.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 19, 2017 09:44 PM (mc8++)

Agree. I just wouldnt describe Moore as such. Though I see your point that the Left would try because of his defense of the Ten Commandments.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 19, 2017 09:47 PM (2DOZq)

595 Had eggnog once. A girlfriend made it. Good thing I could take the back roads home.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:47 PM (4ZKcy)

596 Pretty sure Team Hillary! has a van they can let you have cheap...

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 09:48 PM (Edyyb)

597 Who in the wide world of sports doesn't like Gershwin??
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:42 PM (lwiT4)

--I even pointed out that "S'Wonderful" is one of the best love songs ever written, but to no avail.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:48 PM (GsAUU)

598 Had eggnog once. A girlfriend made it. Good thing I could take the back roads home.
Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:47 PM (4ZKcy)


"...if you know what I mean..."

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 09:48 PM (y87Qq)

599
A punch similar to a hook but with a straighter arm and less controlled. They throw lots of these in old cowboy movies.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

Fred G. Sanford was known practitioner of the style.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 09:49 PM (zCyNd)

600
Shaft diameter, 1 inch. Length 28 inches

That Shaft is one bad mutha f...

Posted by: Isaac Haze at November 19, 2017 09:49 PM (IqV8l)

601 Good gosh, logprof is still schwinging with Gershwin?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 09:49 PM (Edyyb)

602 596 Pretty sure Team Hillary! has a van they can let you have cheap...
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 09:48 PM (Edyyb)

Hmmm... If they still have the medical equipment and drugs stocked I might be interested.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:49 PM (NWiLs)

603 Ever been to Hell?
=============

Does Flint MI count? I was born there.
Posted by: X-ray
------------

I had a bad experience in Paradise MI once.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 09:50 PM (y3sT9)

604 601 Good gosh, logprof is still schwinging with Gershwin?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 09:49 PM (Edyyb)

--No didn't get lucky.

Offspring interference.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:50 PM (GsAUU)

605 Eggnog makes me want to poor out a Cadbury creme egg and fill it with vodka for an edible shooter.

Which is to say I'd prefer to not drink either one.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:50 PM (I/iGu)

606 569 Chilled Boone's Farm and a haymaker.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:39 PM (NWiLs)

Thanks Insomniac.

Now I gotta admit my ignorance.

What is a haymaker?
Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (WDy4l)

A punch similar to a hook but with a straighter arm and less controlled. They throw lots of these in old cowboy movies.
Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (NWiLs)

*Hangs head in shame*

*Walked right into that one, I did.*

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:51 PM (WDy4l)

607 Team Hillary! - less competent and less stylish than Team Rocket.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 09:51 PM (Edyyb)

608 Any of y'all have a recipe for a cold wine punch?

Asking for my wife



One part Hi-C, One part Mad Dog

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 09:51 PM (BoMuO)

609 Any of y'all have a recipe for a cold wine punch?


Better warm. Google: Wassail.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 19, 2017 09:52 PM (BoMuO)

610 Mulled wine time of year!

Even better fortified with good brandy!

Sneaky strong!

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:52 PM (I/iGu)

611 Do I make it myself??? Have you met me ?!?!?
Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (lwiT4)

So, no.

I have not met you.

Hope to some day.

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (WDy4l)

612 Dated a guy from Flint once. It was hell.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (4ZKcy)

613 G'nite, Ben Had.


*break*



"Rhapsody in Blue" is THE American Symphony.

That meaning the entire work and album, and not just the titular track.

Needs a proper, powerful and very accurate stereo, at an adequately driven volume, if not a live performance faithful to the original score for it to be truly appreciated.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (QzJWU)

614 Morons who don't like biscuits.

Morons who don't like egg nog.

Is this Bizarro World?

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 09:40 PM (GsAUU)


========

It's ace with the low carb kick he's on. He's sowing infighting and factionalism.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (/qEW2)

615 "Cold wine punch"? Like Sangria?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (ycWCI)

616 @607 Team Hillary! - less competent and less stylish than Team Rocket.
-----------------

Personally, I think the better point of comparison would be Wile E. Coyote.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (cSguU)

617 Porgy and Bess

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 09:54 PM (kvb15)

618 612
Dated a guy from Flint once. It was hell.


Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (4ZKcy)

Name of "Sparky"?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 09:54 PM (zCyNd)

619 Brookshires brand eggnog is just fine. Of course you have to add your own favorite alcohol. Captain Morgan works just fine.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2017 09:54 PM (zLDYs)

620 Any of y'all have a recipe for a cold wine punch?

Asking for my wife


come sit by me & we'll talk

Posted by: Ike Turner at November 19, 2017 09:55 PM (KCxzN)

621 Shaft is a black private dick
Hes a sex machine to all the chicks
He looks out for his brother man

But he ain't too damn small

Posted by: Shaft at November 19, 2017 09:56 PM (39g3+)

622 Yup! Wassail too!

It's a good excuse to keep a large, permanent crock pot going through the winter, as you keep topping it off with more red wine, apple cider, orange juice, brandy, spices, citrus peels, etc., adjusting proportions as you go along; occasionally straining and filtering.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:56 PM (I/iGu)

623 @613 "Rhapsody in Blue" is THE American Symphony.
--------------------

Apparently the Gershwin Brothers were pretty nice guys. I remember reading an article a while back written by a musician who had one of the brothers come up to him after a show, politely introduce himself, and ask questions about the performance.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 09:57 PM (cSguU)

624 Every year about this time I do this but... eggnog is about as easy to make as toast

cup of milk
1 egg
sugar to preferred sweetness
vanilla flavoring
Ground nutmeg

Blend.

That's it.

Add whatever liquor you feel you have to but eggnogs are super easy and cheap to make.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 09:57 PM (39g3+)

625 OF Thee I Sing by Gershwin. First musical to win a Pulitzer.

It's a fun show. Got some catchy tunes and beats you can dance to. And the snark on politics can still burn.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 09:57 PM (hyuyC)

626 I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?

Posted by: chorizo breath at November 19, 2017 09:58 PM (Y1D3p)

627 @613: "'Rhapsody in Blue' is THE American Symphony."

Indeed. Actually had a kid good enough to play the piano part in my high school. More than once, I stopped practicing my trumpet, and listened to him from an adjacent room.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (I/iGu)

628 Jim, thank you for reminding me about "Rhapsody in Blue."

*goes instantly to youtube and finds it, conducted by bernstein and performed by NY Philharmonic*

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (9mZIr)

629
I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?
Posted by: chorizo breath


Not in 2017

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (IqV8l)

630 No, no sparky, he lives in San Quentin. Although, I think he is old and out of service. Unfortunately.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (4ZKcy)

631 @626 I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?
----------------

If someone got married twice, did they count both times?

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (cSguU)

632 626
I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?

Posted by: chorizo breath at November 19, 2017 09:58 PM (Y1D3p)

Is that number from the Bureau of Prisons?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (zCyNd)

633 wine punch:
3 oz red wine,
1 1/2oz vodka,
2oz oj,
4oz lime water

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (kvb15)

634 434 I updated Windows and Firefox. Now my refresh button is all the way over ------> there. I don't like it.

Posted by: grammie winger - thankful at November 19, 2017 09:02 PM (lwiT4)

CTRL-R or F5 never moves.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2017 10:00 PM (tbOMB)

635 I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?

Maybe that's couples. IN a nation of over 300 million people 4 million seems kinda low.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2017 10:00 PM (39g3+)

636 @626: "Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?"

Obviously, one couple got divorced, and only one of them remarried in the same calendar year.

*taps his nose*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:00 PM (I/iGu)

637
Rhapsody in Blue is a 1924 musical composition by American composer George Gershwin for solo piano and jazz band.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (IqV8l)

638 I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?

----------------

Maybe one married a goat.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (VDQek)

639 or maybe polygamy ?

Posted by: chorizo breath at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (Y1D3p)

640 I read that 4,153,237 people got married last year. Not to cause any trouble, but shouldn't that be an even number?

Posted by: chorizo breath at November 19, 2017 09:58 PM (Y1D3p)

There was that girl that married herself.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (T71PA)

641 addendum: Bernstein plays the piano part himself. wow!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (9mZIr)

642 Needs a proper, powerful and very accurate stereo, at an adequately driven volume, if not a live performance faithful to the original score for it to be truly appreciated.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (QzJWU)

--And to forget that it's been co-opted by United Airlines.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (GsAUU)

643 Any one watching the national geographic channel "Hell on Earth; The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS"?

Posted by: Javems at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (yOqwj)

644
A late Oont?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 10:02 PM (gdzWc)

645 612 Dated a guy from Flint once. It was hell.
Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 09:53 PM (4ZKcy)

Been to Cleveland, once. I suspect hell is nicer.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2017 10:03 PM (tbOMB)

646 Didn't they do Victory at Sea?

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 10:03 PM (kvb15)

647 @644: "A late Oont?"

An ONT aged ever so slightly so we could better enjoy today's Lena Dunham news.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 10:03 PM (I/iGu)

648 I think it's pretty cool how Chinese people made a language entirely out of tattoos.

Posted by: chorizo breath at November 19, 2017 10:04 PM (Y1D3p)

649 Rhapsody in Blue is a 1924 musical composition by American composer George Gershwin for solo piano and jazz band.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (IqV8l)

--Thanks, ms. O'Brien!


Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 10:04 PM (GsAUU)

650 @643 Any one watching the national geographic channel "Hell on Earth; The Fall of Syria and the Rise of ISIS"?
-----------------

That reminds me...

For some reason, Obama *really* wanted to take out Assad.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 10:04 PM (cSguU)

651
Fucking, Austria

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2017 10:04 PM (eXA4G)

652 Nood

MH ONT with barn & flag

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (hyuyC)

653 Those Gershwin boys did a lot of groping.

Posted by: Gloria Ballred at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (Tyii7)

654 So.

I am ON TIME to previous 2 ONT's.

And they were EARLY! (OMG, WTF!?)

TODAY? Looks like we are back to regular ONT Time.

Just. Saying.

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2017 10:05 PM (WDy4l)

655 Victory At Sea. When America was SERIOUS about war.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2017 10:06 PM (zLDYs)

656 644: "A late Oont?"

OOnta-loonta oonta di doo
If you cross Pixy, the Barrel for you

Posted by: Miklos the oonta-loona at November 19, 2017 10:06 PM (zCyNd)

657 Rhapsody in Blue is a 1924 musical composition by American composer George Gershwin for solo piano and jazz band.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 10:01 PM (IqV8l)



Counter:

Jim, thank you for reminding me about "Rhapsody in Blue."

*goes instantly to youtube and finds it, conducted by bernstein and performed by NY Philharmonic*

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:59 PM (9mZIr)



Berstien's version was and is definitive, epic, powerful, delicate and deeply evocative and moving.

I can't recall if it was released on RCA or Columbia, but it was one of the early High-Fidelity Stereo LPs that really could convey the sound quality so as to make the difference.

IF, that is, it was played on good enough equipment, not always found in the average American home of the era.

Do a Wiki-wander of Rhapsody in Blue. You won't be wasting your time.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 19, 2017 10:08 PM (QzJWU)

658 Man's gotta' answer his questions around here.
It was Richard Rogers what did the score to Victory at Sea.

Posted by: gNewt at November 19, 2017 10:11 PM (kvb15)

659 ONT, come on over!

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 10:16 PM (9mZIr)

660 Oh, also played a little Taylor in Gruhn's that I may just have to grab at my more local store, Mass Street Music.
Posted by: teej Kuralt at November 19, 2017 08:01

teej, glad you had a great trip.

We had a stop there a few yrs ago, loved it. Were there for a Meat Loaf concert at Grand Old Opry.The bellhop was actually a good imitation of ML. Older, heavy and walked w/ a slight limp. It was freaky.

He asked if we were goin honkey-tonking. I said WTF. He explained and then new did. Much fun for these oldsters in our late 50s.

Glad you enjoyed your trip.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 10:37 PM (yJ1e6)

661 >>>435 Sorry for the threadjack and Thank You for all of the suggestions and advice.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 09:03 PM (hjzvx)

It was a fun topic.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2017 03:10 AM (V+b9T)

662 >>>568
The smart people in their party know it'd be a nasty, self-destructive affair
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 09:41 PM (I/iGu)

That made me smile.

Posted by: m at November 20, 2017 03:32 AM (V+b9T)

663 Somebody, drive a stake through her heart please.

Posted by: gobagoo at November 20, 2017 06:32 AM (A/saJ)

Food Thread: To Bake, Or Not To Bake; That Is The Question

buttermilk-biscuits.jpg

Biscuits or rolls or baguettes or big crusty loaves or....

I usually say, "screw it" about mid-afternoon on Thanksgiving, and never bother to bake rolls. Yes, I am a bad man. I have been told by a commenter who should know that serving yeast rolls on Thanksgiving is in the bible! But rolls and biscuits are best right out of the oven, and I am sick of the kitchen at exactly the time I should be making the rolls!. And I have yet to find a dinner roll that was good the next day, although I am not a professional baker by any stretch of the imagination, so don't take my word for it.

It's certainly a lot easier to buy or bake a couple of good loaves of bread, or buy a few baguettes (baking them is a pain in the ass!). But the aroma of freshly baked bread is hard to beat, so I am contemplating either dinner rolls or simple buttermilk biscuits.

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For the Moron Cookbook, commenter "JT" submitted sort of a long-form Thanksgiving plan, complete with shopping lists! it's a bit too long for the cookbook, but perfect for the Food Thread. I have linked to a PDF, so take a look...it's fun to read and see how other people do it.
My favorite meal is my father's Thanksgiving. The recipe is an amalgam of various twists and turns that he has added over the years. Several years back, I spent a Thanksgiving watching and writing down everything he did. I think this is a recipe that even aficionados can appreciate but it is truly meant for the moron who wants to host their first Thanksgiving but feels overwhelmed by the notion of doing so.

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cutting glove.jpg

I have finally gotten to the point on my very shallow knife-skills learning curve that I don't hit an artery every few months. I am actually quite proud of that!

But....I have a highly developed skill that compensates; I am fantastic at burning myself! last week I made some granola, and while taking the sheet pan out of the oven one corner of it bounced off my bicep. How this happened I have no idea. It makes no sense. It is an awkward motion, but somehow I managed. I now have a fine burn in an oddly regular pattern, and it shows no sign of going away anytime soon.

But all is not lost. Last night I seared some steaks in a cast-iron pan that I had preheated in a hot oven. I am happy to announce that I did not grab the handle of the pan with my bare hand!

By the way, has anyone used those cutting gloves? I have seen them in oyster houses and the occasional butcher shop, but how about for home use?

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Crescent-Wrapped Cranberry and Brie
Yes. It is good. Trust me on this one. I am no fan of cranberry sauce, but if I must eat cranberries to complete the idyllic Thanksgiving scene in your head, then I will cheerfully eat this.
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Anybody ever use leftover stuffing to make waffles? I may have mentioned it in the past, but if not, give it a shot. I usually mix in an egg to keep everything together. It's damned good eating, and really easy.
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Yes yes, we have already established that I am an iconoclast, so you shouldn't be surprised that I am not going to make mashed potatoes, but rather an interesting dish from one of the few NYT food writers I pay any attention to. Melissa Clark writes straightforward recipes that are almost always worth making at least once. I'll get back to you next week about this one.

Mashed Potato Casserole

INGREDIENTS


  • 14 tablespoons unsalted butter, softened, and more for the pan
  • 6 pounds Yukon Gold potatoes, peeled and cut into chunks
  • 2 tablespoons plus 1 teaspoon kosher salt
  • 1 ½ cups sour cream
  • 1 teaspoon black pepper
  • 6 tablespoons finely chopped chives
  • 2/3 cup bread crumbs
  • 2/3 cup grated Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese

PREPARATION
Lightly grease a 9-inch-by-13-inch baking pan.

In a large pot, bring the potatoes, 4 quarts water and 2 tablespoons salt to a boil. Boil potatoes until fork tender, about 20 minutes. Drain.

Mash potatoes with 10 tablespoons butter, sour cream, 1 teaspoon salt, and pepper. Mash in the chives. Taste and adjust seasoning, if necessary. Spread potatoes into the prepared pan. Cover and refrigerate for up to three days.

In a small bowl, combine the remaining 4 tablespoons butter, bread crumbs and cheese. Mix together until it forms coarse crumbs. Crumbs can be refrigerated for three days.

Heat the oven to 400 degrees. Sprinkle crumbs over the top of the potato casserole and bake until golden and crisp, 30 to 40 minutes.

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1 Food!

Posted by: HH at November 19, 2017 03:57 PM (mIJBI)

2 Damn those biscuits look goooooooood.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 03:59 PM (GsAUU)

3 I want a cutting glove!
Also want meat shears.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 04:01 PM (hMwEB)

4 Baguettes and loaves all the way.

Cannot stand biscuits.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2017 04:01 PM (Wtll+)

5 To Bake, Or Not To Bake; That Is The Question

Paging willow...

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (y87Qq)

6 Bake if you can, nothing is better than a bread out of the oven

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (aC6Sd)

7 Biscuits.

Gravy's best friend.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (nUkMr)

8 But all is not lost. Last night I seared some steaks in a cast-iron pan
that I had preheated in a hot oven. I am happy to announce that I did
not grab the handle of the pan with my bare hand!



Guilty as charged. Seared four fingers and my palm. Then called myself an idiot for a few hours.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (/o9Qk)

9 Gauntlets are for scaredy cats

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 04:03 PM (aC6Sd)

10 I am not baking rolls. I'm using the Sister Schubert Dinner Yeast rolls. They are the closest to the taste of the rolls my mother makes. I'll need a couple more lessons from her before I attempt them on my own. I am making the pies from scratch this year. Just printed out my grandmother's pecan pie recipe which uses almond extract instead of vanilla.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:03 PM (eIQHF)

11 Rhodes makes some very good frozen rolls. You have to prep them by covering with oil and suran wrap. They don't take long to cook.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (4ZKcy)

12 Oh and I will be spatchcocking the turkey this year. It will be a first. Cross your fingers for me.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (/o9Qk)

13 Pan fried burgers w gorganzola and basil, I had a couple of left over baked potatoes and sliced them into fries and reheated them in the drippings.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (hjzvx)

14 Mmmmmmm, I got a giant box of Red Lobster Cheddar Bay Biscuit mix at Costco last week and now I will probably make another batch today. Oddly, I left the ones I couldn't eat out on the counter, uncovered (I'm a lazy bitch) for 2 or 3 days and, with a little nuking, they were still perfectly edible.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (14URa)

15 I usually say, "screw it" about mid-afternoon

Me, too.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at November 19, 2017 04:05 PM (Tyii7)

16 The Hiram Maxim Bisket Flour Hour.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2017 04:06 PM (zLDYs)

17 I'm a stickler on mashed potatoes - I absolutely love mashed potatoes made fresh, from scratch - best with a bit of the peel left on - and i absolutely DESPISE instant mashed potatoes. In fact that's one of my cut-off decision points for whether a restaurant is worth coming back to; if they offer mashed potatoes, and I can detect that vile instant mushiness in them, I'll never go there again.

I use a hand blender when I make them for myself - I like red potatoes a lot, but that's just a personal preference, any variety that isn't too waxy will work. Boil them til a knife passes through with little resistance, then drain the water, add a stick of butter, plenty of salt and pepper, about half a cup of milk or cream, and run your hand blender on it till all the big chunks are gone.

for serving, garnishing with some finely cut green onions makes a nice presentation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:06 PM (k1TUh)

18 Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (hjzvx)

If you're ever in the mood to adopt, Ben Had, I am available. Your food talk makes me crazy with envy.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:06 PM (14URa)

19 >>I am fantastic at burning myself!

Heh, me, too!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:07 PM (W+vEI)

20 I am fantastic at burning myself!

I got my first burn at work last week. I hit the oven door with my forearm just above where my oven glove ended. It's gonna leave a mark. Lunch lady-ing is tough.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:07 PM (eIQHF)

21 I had a somewhat abbreviated early Thanksgiving with Mom because she's visiting her cousin for Actual Thanksgiving. We had all the fixins but just a turkey bosom vice the whole bird.

That of course leaves me without weeks' worth of turkey leftovers so I'll be cooking my own 13-pounder on Thursday.

I will remake Ina Garten's sausage and herb stuffing recipe, which was superb:

http://tinyurl.com/y7gco6kz

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:07 PM (qJtVm)

22 The potato casserole sounds good.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 04:08 PM (3/sUh)

23 19 >>I am fantastic at burning myself!

Heh, me, too!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:07 PM (W+vEI)

Stay away from the guns. Don't need you to lose a toe or two

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 04:09 PM (3/sUh)

24 Am I missing something in the JT list and directions? Does a 10 lb turkey breast have a cavity?

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:09 PM (4ZKcy)

25 Peaches, I'd be honored to cook for you anytime.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:09 PM (hjzvx)

26 "Oddly, I left the ones I couldn't eat out on the counter, uncovered (I'm a lazy bitch) for 2 or 3 days and, with a little nuking, they were still perfectly edible."

You obviously don't have cats. Not that the cats would eat them, but they most certainly would have messed around with them, doing whatever seemed to be a good idea in their catty little brains.

We don't leave uncovered food out in our house. Ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:09 PM (k1TUh)

27 A cookbook sounds like a great idea!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:10 PM (Sfs6o)

28 I've been such a heretic the last couple of decades - I've stayed at home most years, and done something birdlike other than turkey, or just a single turkey breast. The trouble is, I can just tolerate the traditional T'giving dishes, but can't endure the endless leftovers. Canned yams baked with marshmallows and brown sugar - barf. The green-bean casserole made with a can of cream-of-bletch-soup and sprinkled with canned fried onions. Double-barf. The infinitely re-heated dressing, the sludgy brown gravy ... all too much. I do make a dried-fruit and yam casserole with streusel topping, and oven-broiled Brussels-sprouts with a bit of kielbasa, and red onion, which go over much better - and the turkey breast is baked on a mound of home-made rye and sausage stuffing, but not too big of a mound.
I blame this all on my mother, who usually did a twenty-five pound turkey, and spun the leftovers out for a month. Just when we were done with the Thanksgiving turkey, here was the Christmas turkey! I got to the point that when I had my own household, I'd do practically anything else for Christmas dinner.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 19, 2017 04:10 PM (xnmPy)

29 I also have some leftover cheesy bacon muffins for soppin' gravy.

Oh, and I bought riced cauliflower with the idea that I might low-carb it, until I discovered said muffins in the freezer.

Anybody made decent cauliflower "potatoes"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:10 PM (qJtVm)

30 Stay away from the guns. Don't need you to lose a toe or two

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at November 19, 2017 04:09 PM (3/sUh)
I cut and burn myself regularly in the kitchen (despite decades of practice). With the gun, though? I am hell on wheels.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:10 PM (14URa)

31 Frozen dinner rolls that you can pop in the oven (after thawing, rising) are what I've done for Thanksgiving. Fresh out of the oven without having done any of the work, Yay!

I love Sheila Lukins' Thanksgiving Potatoes recipe (at Food52.com) - it's mashed potatoes with cream cheese, sour cream. Best part is that you can make them in advance and then re-heat on Thanksgiving day. Delicious!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:11 PM (W+vEI)

32 Dad cancelled thanksgiving this year. Only to then put it back on but with a grocery store heat and eat meal. I have the feeling it's gonna suck. Not that my family's stuffing and turkey are gourmet but my memories are very fond.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 04:11 PM (VDQek)

33 I got to the point that when I had my own household, I'd do practically anything else for Christmas dinner.

My family has never made turkey at Christmas. We do a seafood gumbo.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:12 PM (eIQHF)

34 @26

I'm house-sitting for my parents, and I had to chase their cat away from a sealed container of Oreos that she was batting toward the edge of the counter.

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 04:12 PM (B3v7y)

35 For Thanksgiving this year, my wife and I are going for the traditional prime rib roast with mac and cheese.

Okay, okay, just going to be three of us and the hassle of a turkey and all the side dishes seems like overkill.

Posted by: Blake at November 19, 2017 04:13 PM (WEBkv)

36 This morning at breakfast, I had home made biscuits with sausage gravy made with duck fat. I could only eat two.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 04:13 PM (oLTNb)

37 >>Stay away from the guns. Don't need you to lose a toe or two

I know, right? I rarely cut myself, but burns all the time. Always manage to bump the outside edge pf my hand on the oven rack. Ugh.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:13 PM (W+vEI)

38 My family has never made turkey at Christmas. We do a seafood gumbo.
Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:12 PM (eIQHF)


Now I'm wondering why my family has never done a traditional Jewish Christmas dinner for Thanksgiving. I bet dad would go for it.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 04:14 PM (y87Qq)

39 Anybody made decent cauliflower "potatoes"?

I'm pretty sure the cheese, butter, and cream I put in it did away with any health benefit.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:14 PM (eIQHF)

40 Turkey leftovers and sammiches made of the same make for great midnight fridge raiding, but that makes the best part of Thanksgiving not Thanksgiving at all, but revelling in the post-Thanksgiving.

Mom hosts Thanksgiving. A couple of years ago a couple of the cousins and I convinced her that no one actually likes turkey. The legs are good, but that means that only cousin Steve and I get anything good and everyone else has to eat bland dry boring tasteless nondescript turkey-shaped animal protein.

So we get roast beef again this Thanksgiving. Yay me and cousins!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 04:14 PM (gIRsn)

41 Loaf of white bread currently baking. 10 minutes to completion. Very few cooking smells are better then baking bread. Pot roast cooked with lots of herbs and red wine is a close second.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 04:14 PM (N3JsI)

42 Peaches, I love those Red Lobster biscuits.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:15 PM (/o9Qk)

43 Citrus supremes are a good example of why fancy kitchens have pastry chefs and countless line cooks.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 04:15 PM (I/iGu)

44 Now I'm wondering why my family has never done a traditional Jewish Christmas dinner for Thanksgiving. I bet dad would go for it.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 04:14 PM (y87Qq)
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Set the table with those paper Chinese Zodiac placemats.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:16 PM (qJtVm)

45 i do a similar recipe of the featured crescent cranberry brie but i use puff pastry for individual appetizers.

cut the pastry into small squares that are slightly larger than the size of the muffin cups in your muffin pan. place each piece in the muffin pan. add a small portion of brie, then top with cranberry sauce or your favorite jam...mine is apricot.

bake at around 400 degrees until brown and bubbly. let cool, slightly.

i love to do appetizer parties.

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 04:16 PM (MF4DY)

46 We're spatchcocking the turkey this year. May brine it for a short time. Really don't like the way that overnight brining the turkey makes the turkey meat spongy. Best description I can come up with.
May just salt under the skin and then bake it.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 04:17 PM (N3JsI)

47 The Amazon Treasure Truck popped up today with a 10-12 pound never frozen turkey from Sonoma for 19.99. I got one. It's like, artisanal. Two weeks ago they had three racks of baby backs for $16. I was too slow; they sold out in under 10 minutes.

Biscuits: There is a recipe on Cook's Illustrated for Ultimate Buttermilk Biscuits. It is a fussy one, of course, but really only takes about 20 minutes of prep. Stepping beyond, one can freeze these, and then pop however many you want into the oven from frozen. They are quite good.

Posted by: Gordon at November 19, 2017 04:18 PM (+En3w)

48 I hate turkey. Absolutely loathe the king of the yard birds

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:18 PM (4u7kU)

49 Think I'm going to try to do a swiss roll/yule log for Christmas dessert this year. Anyone ever attempt this?

Kidlet is doing her first Thanksgiving this year. She is a nervous wreck. For no reason of course. She is a perfectly good cook.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:18 PM (4ZKcy)

50 My family has never made turkey at Christmas. We do a seafood gumbo.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:12 PM (eIQHF)
We always had the exact same meal for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Never heard one complaint, ever.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:18 PM (14URa)

51 We gonna get a Greenburg Turkey, Oprah's favorite. Smoked, all cooked, just gotta heat it up and serve.

And the main office & warehouse is just a mile and a half from my house, so I just gotta drive over and pick one up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:19 PM (k1TUh)

52 Thanks for mentioning the cheddar biscuits. Just ordered and they'll be here in time for Thanksgiving.

My wife and mom will be thrilled.

Posted by: Blake at November 19, 2017 04:20 PM (WEBkv)

53 Biscuits are only good when they're fresh and hot. So they're not worth making if they're going to have to sit awhile.

This Thanksgiving Husband and self are traveling to Cedar Rapids to spend a couple of days with second daughter. She's going to make a pork roast and green beans, I'm going to bring a Bundt cake, because those are so dense you don't have to worry about them sliding around or falling apart in transit.

BTW now that we're in southern Wisconsin instead of Illinois, I'm going to have to plot a new route to CR. We always took I-80 across Illinois, but that's too far out of the way now.

Posted by: Annalucia at November 19, 2017 04:21 PM (S6ArX)

54 48 I hate turkey. Absolutely loathe the king of the yard birds
Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:18 PM (4u7kU)

I don't care for turkey either, I am usually all about the side dishes.
It's going to be just my husband and me this year. We are going to have prime rib, mashed potatoes and veggies.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 04:21 PM (Ri/rl)

55 It's kinda funny just how many farm turkeys are killed every year in tornadoes. Makes me wonder if the wind gods are hungry or just wanna see those caged birds roam free.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 04:22 PM (I/iGu)

56 I can't recall the last time I had biscuits or rolls with Thanksgiving dinner; There are so many starchy things (Stuffing, potatoes) that I don't see the need for rolls, although the ones in the picture look good.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (8+Ozj)

57 42
Peaches, I love those Red Lobster biscuits.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:15 PM (/o9Qk)
They are hella good, DG! Never had them before but that sample lady at the Costco reeled me in like a half-dead walleye.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (14URa)

58 Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 04:16 PM (MF4DY)

That sounds really good.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (Ri/rl)

59 48
I hate turkey. Absolutely loathe the king of the yard birds

Posted by: sofa saver


I've finished carving and making stock from turkeys 1 and 2, with 2 more to go later in the week. These are for:
-Church for the poor
-Thanksgiving party at work, because we high-flying Feds provide everything ourselves; there is no money for a real party.
-Turkey for my family and in-laws
-Turkey for my wife's family and in-laws.

Yeah, I'm a bit sick of turkey. Why do you ask?

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (LAe3v)

60 I had this crazy thought of trying to deep fry Cornish game hens in my small fryer.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (hjzvx)

61 @54: "I don't care for turkey either, I am usually all about the side dishes."

Growing up, I couldn't stand dark meat turkey, and slices of breast meat were just an excuse to help mop up all the dressing, potatoes, and gravy on my plate.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 04:24 PM (I/iGu)

62 Think I'm going to try to do a swiss roll/yule log for Christmas dessert this year. Anyone ever attempt this?

Have had a couple of majorly perfect ones. Got 'em at the Viktor Benes in Gelson's, lol! Looks like quite the project to make one your self.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:24 PM (14URa)

63 They are hella good, DG! Never had them before but that sample lady at the Costco reeled me in like a half-dead walleye.
Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (14URa)

My SIL makes those all the time, they are really good.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 04:25 PM (Ri/rl)

64 They are hella good, DG! Never had them before but that sample lady at the Costco reeled me in like a half-dead walleye.


Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM (14URa)

They sure are!I didn't even know they were a thing until my mom made them a couple of years ago during one of my visits. I was like, "they make these in a mix???!!!!!!"
I haven't been without a box since, lol! Those and Girardhelli (sp?) triple chocolate brownie mix. Thanks, Costco!

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:25 PM (/o9Qk)

65 Depends how small the fryer is, Ben Had. Kinda tricky, but not if you've successfully fried a turkey.

Posted by: Gordon at November 19, 2017 04:27 PM (+En3w)

66 If you're bored with ordinary roast turkey and you have a smoker, smoke dat bird. Crispy smoky skin and a layer of chewy turkey jerky around the outside.

Or don't, I guess, whatever. Make what you want.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 04:27 PM (y87Qq)

67 See whenever anybody says they don't like Turkey, I think they've just never had it when it was cooked right. Like all poultry, Turkey is a delicate meat and since it's big and people are scared of undercooking the middle, they often cook the shit out of it and you end up with a flaky dry tasteless hunk of protein.

But when it's smoked at a low heat for a long time, or cooked in any way that keeps all the juices in along with plenty of seasoning (Cajun Fried Turkey is also a love of mine) I think turkey can be one of the most flavorful and satisfying birds you can cook.

p.s. Of course there's always duck, which I cooked one year, and it's especially good if it's been shot with the salt and pepper shot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:27 PM (k1TUh)

68 I want to squeeze your light, fluffy biscuits.

Posted by: Al Franken at November 19, 2017 04:28 PM (oVJmc)

69 We are going out for sushi instead of doing a thanksgiving meal since this is the first year of many that the kid isn't here with us. Treating it as a slug day, zero work, no effort, just relaxation.

Posted by: NCKate at November 19, 2017 04:28 PM (Jj68o)

70 *Sigh*

No Amazon Travel Truck or Costco here.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:28 PM (4ZKcy)

71 I have never had fried turkey.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:29 PM (/o9Qk)

72 Gordon, that's the crazy part. I've never done a turkey. What do you think would happen if I split the hen in half?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:29 PM (hjzvx)

73 See whenever anybody says they don't like Turkey, I think they've just never had it when it was cooked right.

My mom's turkey was ALWAYS perfect. Back when your only choice was the butterball (with the pop-out thermometer, lol). Then she started getting free-range this, and Whole Foods that, and there was a lot of apologizing. I don't like a gamey turkey. I like bland. And massive piles of mash, stuffing and gravy. I only eat the rest to be polite.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:29 PM (14URa)

74 Dangergirl or never enough caffeine (or anyone else who has tried this)... what kind of roasting pan are you using? I want to try spatchcocking a turkey for Xmas but I don't have anything big enough (yet). Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2017 04:30 PM (0ReGO)

75 At work the two profession I run into who get burned almost every day are welders and chefs

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 04:30 PM (aC6Sd)

76 71
I have never had fried turkey.


Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:29 PM (/o9Qk)
It's to die, DG. Sooooo moist, sooooo tender. But, you will spend 5x the money on the oil as you do on the actual turkey itself.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:30 PM (14URa)

77 >>I want to squeeze your light, fluffy biscuits.



Gotta wait 'till the L-tryptophan from the turkey kicks in and she's dozing on the couch, Al...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:31 PM (W+vEI)

78 no kidding - Cajun fried turkey is awesome!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:31 PM (k1TUh)

79 Growing up, I couldn't stand dark meat turkey, and slices of breast meat were just an excuse to help mop up all the dressing, potatoes, and gravy on my plate.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 04:24 PM (I/iGu)

I'll eat turkey, but I love the side dishes more.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 04:31 PM (Ri/rl)

80 @64: "... and Girardhelli (sp?) triple chocolate brownie mix."

Their peppermint bark squares aren't half bad this time of year either.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 04:31 PM (I/iGu)

81 Deep fried turkey is good. I didn't think the cold leftovers were.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:32 PM (4ZKcy)

82 I'm not going to spatchcock the bird, but I am going to see how roasting it breast side down works out. Oh, this will be the first time I've prepared Thanksgiving on my own. We aren't traveling anywhere this year, and no relatives are coming over.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:34 PM (eIQHF)

83 @76: "But, you will spend 5x the money on the oil as you do on the actual turkey itself."

Filtering and reusing the oil turns into a good excuse to deep fry some whole birds every couple of weeks.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (I/iGu)

84 I'm cooking a turkey on the grill this year for the liberal idiot assheaded in-laws whom I generally dislike.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (Sfs6o)

85 From garden thread I had about 2 dozen Anaheim peppers that were green before the first frost. Well some are turning red so got to use them. So had left over roast beef which diced up, fried 2 of peppers peeled them and diced and a few tsp of salsa all in then a burrito with lettuce and cheese.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (aC6Sd)

86 For anyone who's near a Dickey's BBQ (based in Fort Worth but they've got 500 locations now) you can order a whole Cajun Fried Turkey with trimmings for pick-up the night before Thanksgiving. Cost is less than what it would take you to go to all the trouble of frying it yourself.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (k1TUh)

87 Hooray! Food thread! I've missed all the recent food threads because life.

Anyhow, I'm doing the Thanksgiving meal my own self again this year, although because I'm lame with a broken foot, I'm cheating a bit.

I'm feeding nine of us, four college students from different countries, three who will be experiencing their first Thanksgiving here.

And Bible, or no, I don't make homemade yeast rolls. What with all the desserts, sides, etc. it's a bridge too far. But I buy good quality frozen ones and no one complains.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (PY9jH)

88 84 I'm cooking a turkey on the grill this year for the liberal idiot assheaded in-laws whom I generally dislike.
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (Sfs6o)

There is something unnatural about grilling a turkey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 04:36 PM (ycWCI)

89 84
I'm cooking a turkey on the grill this year for the liberal idiot assheaded in-laws whom I generally dislike.

Posted by: Wease


Yeah, you're a real day at the beach, too. We asked for tofurkey, but noooooooooooo!

Posted by: Weasel's In-Laws at November 19, 2017 04:37 PM (LAe3v)

90
There is something unnatural about grilling a turkey.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 04:36 PM (ycWCI)
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Man does it turn out good though!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:37 PM (Sfs6o)

91

I'll be out of the country for Thanksgiving this year, but for Christmas will be doing a dry brine spatchcocked turkey Texican style with sweet potato stuffed poblano rellenos, cornbread stuffing and lord knows what else.

If you have never dry brined and spatchcocked a bird, DO IT!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 04:38 PM (qul7b)

92 Oh yes - it is to bake!

I've been baking bread so long the kids will not eat store-bought anymore. Each of them have their favorite and I've shipped it cross-country before too.

I'll start on Tuesday this week to go with a turkey breast and brined pork roast. A couple of lard crust pies and viola!, I'm in a string quartet.

Wait, that's not right.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 19, 2017 04:39 PM (tr2D7)

93 With much plaintive wailing and foot stomping I was unable to prevail in my attempt to nix the bird and start the inaugural Thanksgiving ham. I really do not like turkey. Such is life.

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at November 19, 2017 04:39 PM (VJBq9)

94 My favorite turkey is when I cook it on the grill with the coals banked on one side and the turkey on the other. I brine it the night before.

The only problem is I never know how long it is going to take. I just cook it until the thermometer registers, uh, I can't remember how much. Less than the USDA recommends because if you cook it to 165, it is dry and no longer tender.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at November 19, 2017 04:40 PM (ZapPq)

95 Never heard of stuffing/waffles, but my local Whole Foods contracted with a baker last year who used stuffing in her scone mix. And they were amazing.

I kick myself for not buying them out & freezing the remainders, because they were only available for 3 weeks.

I shall not make that mistake again.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #every man a Wildcat/go KSU at November 19, 2017 04:40 PM (x3yKT)

96 In Vino Veritas, Is it possible to have the recipe for the stuffed poblanos?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:41 PM (hjzvx)

97 Fried turkey is great! My uncle usually fries his, but I think he is smoking it in his new Traeger smoker this year.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:42 PM (eIQHF)

98 Is it stuffing or dressing?

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:42 PM (Sfs6o)

99 Yes, Peaches...but you can use the oil three times if you store it carefully. Not three years, but, say, 3 times in a month.

Ben Had...how big is the fryer? The key is displacement; you could fill a big measuring cup with water and put the frozen game hen in that. See how much the water level rises. Now. . .what is the capacity of your fryer? If you fill it to the fill line with water (unplugged!), then add the amount of water you got from the measuring cup trial. Is the level in the fryer now low enough for safety?

No matter how carefully you pat a bird dry, it's gonna want to foam up big time from the moisture in the skin. When I'm lowering a turkey into the fryer, it's a slow process, with me wearing long gloves. It takes about 4 minutes for the foaming to drop to a safe level as you ease the bird down. After that, it's fine.

I would have the fryer sitting in a pan with sides at least an inch high, just in case. Turkey fryers start fires because people put too much bird in, or the oil is too high. It goes over the side, drops down and encounters the open flame, and Whoosh! Turkey fryer manuals have about 30 pages of Warning! and Caution! and Danger! before you get to the first actual instruction.

Posted by: Gordon at November 19, 2017 04:42 PM (+En3w)

100 I use a cutting glove with my julienne mandoline. I like my skin omitted from my salads.

Posted by: wcgreen at November 19, 2017 04:42 PM (4Kl6S)

101 Man does it turn out good though!
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:37 PM (Sfs6o)

Sure does. We're going to a big family gathering but if I were doing a small turkey for me and my husband I'd be using one of our grills. BTW at our family gathering we just use the Pilsbury biscuits in a tube. *hangs head* Everyone likes them though.

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 04:43 PM (6HFDU)

102 I use a cutting glove with my julienne mandoline.

Oh, that's a good tip. I love and fear my mandoline.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:44 PM (eIQHF)

103 This is a recipe for a carrot dish my mom always makes for Thanksgiving - so, so tasty!

Apricot Glazed Carrots
2 lbs carrots, peeled and cut diagonally
3 T butter
1/3 C apricot preserves
1/4 tsp nutmeg
1/4 tsp salt
1 tsp freshly grated orange pee;
2 tsp fresh lemon juice
Parsley for garnish

1. Cook the carrots in salted water until just tender, about 20 minutes. Then drain.
2. Melt butter and stir in preserves until blended. Add nutmeg, salt, orange peel and lemon juice.
3. Toss carrots with apricot mixture until well coated. Garnish with parsley.
serve immediately!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:44 PM (W+vEI)

104 Helena Handbasket. Bought a large baking sheet, just fits in the oven with room to spare and to allow for air circulation. It's heavier duty then a standard cookie sheet. Will foil line it and raise the foil around the bird to capture the juices. Will bake it over a combo of onion, carrot and apple. Will puree some of the onion, carrot and apple and add it to the gravy.
This is what I purchased.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 04:44 PM (N3JsI)

105 100 I use a cutting glove with my julienne mandoline. I like my skin omitted from my salads.
Posted by: wcgreen at November 19, 2017 04:42 PM (4Kl6S)

Stylish, and the chainmail suit will be useful during the zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 04:44 PM (ycWCI)

106 Dangergirl or never enough caffeine (or anyone else
who has tried this)... what kind of roasting pan are you using? I want
to try spatchcocking a turkey for Xmas but I don't have anything big
enough (yet). Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2017 04:30 PM (0ReGO)

I'm going to use a half sheet flat baking pan. I'm only doing a 13 lb bird though.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:44 PM (/o9Qk)

107 I'll be back in a bit, have to take care of some bidness.

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 04:45 PM (/o9Qk)

108 I'm dry brining our turkey again this year. I'm picking up the fresh turkey tomorrow and will rub it with salt and fresh herbs and let it sit uncovered in the garage frig for three days. It has turned out fantastic the last couple of years. I will NEVER wet brine one again.

We will also have a nice smoked ham. It's a tradition in my husband's family because his mother could not cook a turkey (or anything) to save her life. We always headed to the ham when she'd pull the almost raw fowl from the oven.

Thankfully, our Thanksgivings here are limited to our immediate family and whatever friends we include. No in-laws.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 04:45 PM (PY9jH)

109 Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 04:44 PM (N3JsI)

I like my turkeys in the raw.

Posted by: The Barrel at November 19, 2017 04:45 PM (ycWCI)

110 on my way to the barrel, husband will have to finish dinner
Sorry folks

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 04:45 PM (N3JsI)

111 Uh oh.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:45 PM (Sfs6o)

112 Portishead: "Biscuit"

https://youtu.be/99YIOMq3gmw

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (GsAUU)

113 ...oh and whoever posted their "Aunt Becca's Pink Cranberry Salad" recipe...thanks!...that's what i'm making come thursday.

the tradition lives on

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (MF4DY)

114 One nice thing about the occasional solo T-day is that I do not have to stifle my stabby-stabby reflex when listening to lib friends and acquaintances wax wroth about the hated figure of the day. A few seasons back The Donald wasn't even on their radar and now he is The Worst Thing Ever. Our lovely hostess has had to warn guests that there will be no politics, but they can't help themselves.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (qJtVm)

115 Gordon, Thank You for the help. I'll give it a try in the near future.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (hjzvx)

116 86 For anyone who's near a Dickey's BBQ (based in Fort Worth but they've got 500 locations now) you can order a whole Cajun Fried Turkey with trimmings for pick-up the night before Thanksgiving. Cost is less than what it would take you to go to all the trouble of frying it yourself.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 04:35 PM (k1TUh)

I used to go to the one on Henderson in Dallas in a pinch. I remember there was a Churches chicken on the same corner. Now I live in the Berkshires and I get nada. No tex mex no BBq lousy sushi no chinese lousy Indian and no f'king fried chicken. If you can't cook here, you may just die

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (4u7kU)

117 I splatcocked our turkey last year and used a dry brine.
seriouseats.com has all the details. As far as a pan, you use a large rimmed sheet pan, with or with out a rack. Since you are usually splatchcocking a smaller bird you can also get away with roasting it in a large roasting pan over dressing so it tastes like stuffing without all the hazards..

Posted by: lin-duh at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (kufk0)

118 For about the fifteenth consecutive year (and maybe 20th of 22), i will smoke a turkey for Thanksgiving. I learned to brine it about three years ago - a vast improvement over an already excellent method. My dad smoked turkeys for Thanksgiving, so it is definitely a family tradition, going back 40 years.

although i like turkey well enough (but behind beef, chicken, pork, lamb, and seafood), but i only really like the early holiday dinner so i can have leftovers (open-face sandwiches... i get to break my no carb diet!).

We are looking at downsizing and selling our house soon.. so there will be an air of poignancy this year.

Life is good.

Posted by: goatexchange at November 19, 2017 04:47 PM (YFnq5)

119 Is it stuffing or dressing?

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:42 PM (Sfs6o)


Dressing (at least in the south), unless it's going in the bird. Then, it's stuffing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 04:47 PM (PY9jH)

120 Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 04:46 PM (GsAUU)
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I listened to the "Dummy" album on the way back home yesterday! One of my all-time favorites. Genius.

Also some Psychedelic Furs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:48 PM (qJtVm)

121 It's real dark here in the barrel.
Hopefully this link comes through ok.
Baking sheet for spatchcoked turkey.
http://tinyurl.com/y86wowr6

Please, please please, let this work. The barrel scares me.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 04:49 PM (N3JsI)

122 I'm feeding nine of us, four college students from different countries, three who will be experiencing their first Thanksgiving here.


Oh that's cool.

One of my favorite Thanksgivings was when I was in grad school. We had scads of foreigners in my program. Most Americans went home for Thanksgiving, my wife and I did not.

We hosted Thanksgiving for about ten mostly foreigners. I loved being able to share what an American Thanksgiving was.

I've lost touch with all of them, but there's a handful of people out there now who've had an American Thanksgiving and I'm sure they remember it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 04:50 PM (gIRsn)

123 We never eat much breakfast on Thanksgiving morning. And my wife is busy with the elaborate lunch preparation. But you need something with the coffee even if you plan on eating yourself goofy hours later. So I usually fix something simple and a few years ago I started making cinnamon monkey bread for that morning. I use frozen yeast rolls in a bundt cake pan. Thaw the rolls, cut them into quarters, dip in butter, place in the pan, add sugar and cinnamon for each layer. Let it sit and rise overnight then bake that morning. It smells really good baking. Dump it on a plate and drizzle with powder sugar, vanilla and milk icing. Gooey and good with coffee or tea. And not too filling. You could use canned biscuits too.

Posted by: Lester at November 19, 2017 04:50 PM (LfJIn)

124 What is the advantage of drying brining over wet brining?. I have never dry brined, but if it works out better I'd like to try it.

I am trying to keep things simple. It's only the three of us so we are having turkey, stuffing, creamed spinach an mashed potatoes. i don't really enjoy all the fuss, but it' what the "boys" want.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2017 04:51 PM (8+Ozj)

125
I don't care for turkey either, I am usually all about the side dishes.
It's going to be just my husband and me this year. We are going to have prime rib, mashed potatoes and veggies.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 04:21 PM (Ri/rl)

My sister's Dr. pepper salad is one of the main reasons I don't return to Dallas during the holidays

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:51 PM (4u7kU)

126 Working a 24 hr shift Wed. So, this year I'm trying Trader Joes Turkey Breast en Croute. I should be capable of that on Thurs.

Posted by: lurker at November 19, 2017 04:52 PM (hhHoZ)

127 seriouseats.com has great Thanksgiving tips and recipes...
Kenji Lopez-Alt from the Food Lab.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 19, 2017 04:52 PM (kufk0)

128 We're spatchcocking the turkey this year.
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Go on...

Posted by: Harvey Weinstein at November 19, 2017 04:53 PM (aT+Bx)

129

Sweet potato poblano (or anaheim or whatever you like) rellenos:

Sweet potato: Bake, mash, blend with a bit of mexican crema or marscarpone or heavy cream to make really smooth, season with whatever a bit of allspice is nice, or cinnamon or whatever, depends what the turkey is getting seasoned with, use something else as a counterpoint. Cumin on bird = no cumin in this.

Rellenos: roast steam and peel peppers as usual, clean, stuff with above. bread with egg wash as usual, flour/panko/masa are all fine. Pan fry.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 04:53 PM (qul7b)

130 >>... I started making cinnamon monkey bread for that morning.


Ooh, that sounds yummy!
When I used to travel to my aunt's for T-Day I would always bring a lemon loaf (from the Good Housekeeping cookbook) and it was perfect - sweet, but not overwhelming, enough fuel to get you going in the kitchen.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 04:54 PM (W+vEI)

131 I was going through my folders of Thanksgiving recipes and found this one, which is both intriguing and disturbing:

KRYSTAL'S (OR WHITE CASTLE) SECRET STUFFING

20 original Krystals (or White Castles)

2 1/4 cup diced celery

1 small diced onion

2 1/4 tsp. thyme

2 1/4 tsp. sage

2 tsp. pepper

1 tsp. kosher salt

1/3 - 3/4 cup chicken broth

1. Get a Steamer Pack (24 Krystals). Eat 4 and put the remaining 20 in the fridge for 12-24 hours.

2. Remove the pickles, tear burgers into small pieces and mix all seasoning, onion, and celery in a bowl.

3. Add chicken broth until it is the desired wetness.

4. Preheat oven to 350. Place stuffing in baking pan and bake for 45 minutes covered in foil.

5. Remove foil and back for an additional 15 minutes to brown the top.

Serves 10-15

I've never tried it and doubt I will, but who knows. It might be okay.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 04:54 PM (PY9jH)

132 If I can dig up 7-8 lbs. of elk, I'll make some real chili. Got a nice pile of ancho chilies burning a hole in my pocket. And no, it doesn't contain beans, tomatoes or carrots

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:54 PM (4u7kU)

133 Turkey on ice cream is unnatural, anything else pretty much is game

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 04:54 PM (aC6Sd)

134 I'm going to my brother's in ATL this year. This was the normal thing, but dad's health made this Not A Thing the past couple of years, which did not contribute to my morale, I tell you that.

I will be enjoying this. No matter what he serves.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, this space for rent! Call 1-800-MORON-AD for details! at November 19, 2017 04:55 PM (lLeln)

135 CaliGirl...saw your post down below. i have one like yours and the other is my dream, in rosewood.

small world



Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 04:55 PM (MF4DY)

136 Weasel I was late to the last thread but that sounds awesome. Just make room for me to drive my trashy old motor home and park it.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 19, 2017 04:55 PM (kufk0)

137 Rolls - It's not Turkey day til something burns in the oven.

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 04:56 PM (FhXTo)

138
Posted by: lin-duh at November 19, 2017 04:55 PM (kufk0)
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You bet!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:56 PM (Sfs6o)

139 I've got a permanent 1/4 inch roux burn on the back of my hand.

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 04:56 PM (FhXTo)

140 Husband is making the Mashed Potato Casserole, above, for a potluck tonight. We are in Phoenix this year, so we're grilling steaks, since it's supposed to be 87 degrees outside. I wanted turkey but was outvoted, men wanted meat.

Posted by: abby at November 19, 2017 04:57 PM (sGUcB)

141 This Turkey Hill pumpkin pie ice cream may not make it to Thanksgiving.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:57 PM (qJtVm)

142 In Vino Veritas, Thank you. Those would be fantastic with the leftover duck.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 04:57 PM (hjzvx)

143 Google Chef John's Perfect Mashed Potatoes. Its an insteuction video. Very easy to make, best mashed potatoes I've ever had. Lots of people over mix and turn it gluey.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2017 04:57 PM (bXc/3)

144 73 See whenever anybody says they don't like Turkey, I think they've just never had it when it was cooked right.

I hate TURKEY. In any form, sausage, meatballs, burgers etc

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:57 PM (4u7kU)

145

Ohhh, LOVE duck!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (qul7b)

146 I've got a permanent 1/4 inch roux burn on the back of my hand.

Yikes! That stuff is the napalm of the kitchen.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (eIQHF)

147 I found a butcher shop in my town, friend told me about it as it is not anywhere I pass by, that has whole beef primals and runs sales on various ones each week. They will cut them up to my order but I've been also enjoying cutting up some of them myself to then vac-seal for the freezer and pull out for sous vide.

Filled the freezer with top sirloin, strip steaks, tenderloins, and this week ribeyes. Had sirloin steak today.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (zOpu5)

148 A cookbook sounds like a great idea!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 04:10 PM (Sfs6o)

Are you going to be buried on that land you are acquiring?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (wYseH)

149 118 goatexchange: "i get to break my no carb diet!"

that's tom brady's diet, essentially no grains, breads, etc.

what is the advantage or goal there? he talks about it providing "pliancy".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (AxFdW)

150 I've never tried it and doubt I will, but who knows. It might be okay.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 04:54 PM (PY9jH)
Jane . . . are those . . . hamburgers???

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (14URa)

151 used those cutting gloves?

Wore a metal one to clean the slicer at a Roy Rogers. Nightmare time.

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 04:59 PM (FhXTo)

152

Speaking of... is a certain thing gonna be available for holiday gifting?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 04:59 PM (qul7b)

153 What is the advantage of drying brining over wet
brining?. I have never dry brined, but if it works out better I'd like
to try it.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2017 04:51 PM (8+Ozj)


I'm not sure of the science behind it, but it draws out the moisture from the skin, and even when it's basted with butter, the skin turns out nice and crispy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 04:59 PM (PY9jH)

154 Brown and serve rolls, could be Bunny could be Sunbeam, doesn't matter as long as you get two packs, first one to burn and the second to brown. Tradition is important.

Posted by: Javems at November 19, 2017 05:00 PM (yOqwj)

155 Tried the stuffing waffle 2 years ago. Total fubar. Sprayed iron thoroughly but the stuffing stuck like glue, waffle split. Took an afternoon to clean up.

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 05:01 PM (FhXTo)

156 Jane . . . are those . . . hamburgers???


Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (14URa)


Yeah, little ones. Gut bombs, people call them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:01 PM (PY9jH)

157
Are you going to be buried on that land you are acquiring?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 04:58 PM (wYseH)
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If I make it that far without being shimmed!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 05:03 PM (Sfs6o)

158 I have never dry brined, but if it works out better I'd like

to try it.


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2017 04:51 PM (8+Ozj)

It is A LOT easier.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 05:04 PM (wYseH)

159 I'm late so sorry if this has already been discussed but....


Mashed Potatoes:

Yukon Gold or Russet?

I see different cooks swearing by each.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:05 PM (Enq6K)

160

I heard she can not only shank you, but can trow for quite a distance...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:05 PM (qul7b)

161 My wife used to make yeast rolls on Thanksgiving and Christmas for dinner. But she is buying them frozen now and baking them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 05:05 PM (mpXpK)

162

Speaking of... is a certain thing gonna be available for holiday gifting?
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 04:59 PM (qul7b)
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That's the plan - it'll be close but we're in the home stretch.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 05:05 PM (Sfs6o)

163

YES!!!!!

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:06 PM (qul7b)

164 154 Brown and serve rolls, could be Bunny could be Sunbeam, doesn't matter as long as you get two packs, first one to burn and the second to brown. Tradition is important.

Posted by: Javems at November 19, 2017 05:00 PM (yOqwj)


Thanksgiving wasn't complete until my mother said, "Oh hell...I forgot the rolls in the oven."

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:06 PM (Enq6K)

165 Whoever up above disliked biscuits is a traitor and a yankee.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 05:06 PM (GsAUU)

166 I'm making cherry cobbler, tomorrow evening, for the Thanksgiving potluck on Tuesday.

Mmmm...cobbler.

Mmmm...tart cherries.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 05:07 PM (cu8/f)

167 Thinking ahead to Christmas when it is my turn to cook. What is the most tender and flavorful roast serve besides Filet Mignon as they are always too large. I am have done the Filet before but now too big for the small group of 4 and don't want leftovers as I am clearing out the freezer and fridge to head south for the winter.

Posted by: arieswoman at November 19, 2017 05:07 PM (fwWWI)

168 Here's a secret recipe to make for Thanksgiving you need 1 easy side. It always gets rave reviews, LOL.

Spinach Souffle
3 Stouffers frozen spinach souffles

1. Preheat oven to 350F. Grease a 2 qt casserole dish.
2. About an hour before baking, remove the frozen souffle from packaging ans place on cutting board to defrost.
3. Just before baking, cut the souffles into small cubes (~1" cubes). Toss 'em into the casserole dish and then put it in the oven.
4. Cook for about 1 hour, or until souffle is high and lightly browned.
Serve immediately!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:07 PM (W+vEI)

169 14
Mmmmmmm, I got a giant box of Red Lobster Cheddar Bay Biscuit mix at
Costco last week and now I will probably make another batch today.
Oddly, I left the ones I couldn't eat out on the counter, uncovered (I'm
a lazy bitch) for 2 or 3 days and, with a little nuking, they were
still perfectly edible.


Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM (14URa)

I got some of that red Lobster mix one time. It made great biscuits but there were simply too many of them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 05:08 PM (mpXpK)

170 Thanksgiving wasn't complete until my mother said, "Oh hell...I forgot the rolls in the oven."
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:06 PM (Enq6K)
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We forgot the crescent rolls in the oven! They were a nice burnt umber. We laughed and ate them anyway. The birds will have the rest.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 05:08 PM (qJtVm)

171 Rolls - It's not Turkey day til something burns in the oven.


Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 04:56 PM (FhXTo)

Always with the fucking rolls. Sit down at the table. Passing stuff around. sniff, sniff, Oh, Shit, the rolls.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 05:08 PM (4ZKcy)

172 I'm an American Yankee, a Northern Yankee, and a New England Yankee.

It is not an insult, but an accolade.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 05:09 PM (cu8/f)

173 So, I'm cheating with two sides. I usually prepare all my sides a couple of days in advance, but because of the foot I can't stand for that long.

I tasted Fresh Market's dressing last week and it was actually very good, similar to the cornbread dressing I make (that takes me two days to prepare). And I'm buying their mashed sweet potatoes and topping them with pecan streusel.

I'm making my collard greens in the Crockpot a day ahead and will reheat on turkey day, and by popular demand (son) I'm making my super easy but decadent mac and cheese.

I'm also cheating on the gravy. My late mother made the best giblet gravy in the world, but I'm going to buy Fresh Market's gravy and "fix it" with the pan drippings from my turkey.

I'm also making fresh cranberry salad, and this year, for giggles, I'm going retro and serving cranberry sauce out of the can, sliced. I read (and have heard on some cooking shows) that people hate to admit that the love the stuff because it brings back childhood memories.

I'm making a wonderful pumpkin pie, and a dark chocolate bourbon pecan pie. I've ordered the most incredible cake I tasted at Fresh Market: a tall, four layer sweet potato cake with cream cheese frosting.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:09 PM (PY9jH)

174 Back for a minute. This is the spatchcocked turkey recipe I'll be using.

http://iamafoodblog.com/spatchcock-roast-turkey-recipe/

Posted by: DangerGirl and her 1.21 Gigawatt SanityProd (tm) at November 19, 2017 05:10 PM (/o9Qk)

175 I will be making beef teriyaki to take over to MIL's house for Thanksgiving. She will be making some stuff too and there are supposed to be 8 people there.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 05:12 PM (mpXpK)

176 Yukon Gold or Russet?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:05 PM (Enq6K)

Maybe we don't get really good russets, but I think they are too grainy. I love Yukon Gold mashed potatoes!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 05:12 PM (wYseH)

177 I would have cut somebody for a piece of carrot cake the other day. None to be had.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 05:12 PM (hjzvx)

178 Serve immediately!


Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:07 PM (W+vEI)
What a great idea, Lizzy! I love that stouffer's spinach souffle but you have elevated it!

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 05:13 PM (14URa)

179 Jane D'oh, my mother sent me a link to a Rumchata pumpkin pie. I may try it out just for fun.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 05:13 PM (eIQHF)

180 dark chocolate bourbon pecan pie.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:09 PM (PY9jH)

* Homer Simpson drooling coma! *
* "Oh, My!" *
* "I can give you $60 and my wedding ring!" *

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:14 PM (qul7b)

181 Those lil brown n serve rolls make the best snack sammiches the day after thanksgiving. A little horseradish mayo and some turkey. And a cold stout or a dark Pilsner. *buuurp*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 05:14 PM (oLTNb)

182 >>What a great idea, Lizzy! I love that stouffer's spinach souffle but you have elevated it!


My mom has been doing this for decades, and people love it (if only they knew her secret recipe)!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:15 PM (W+vEI)

183 Lizzy, you could gild the lily and add some grated parm to the top of the spinach souffle.

I told my husband if he tells anyone I cheated with the dressing and sweet potatoes, I'll kill him.

It will be interesting to see if my son and two of our guests from last year comment that they're even better this year.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:15 PM (PY9jH)

184 Good quality frozen rolls are a reasonable alternative. Best option is to get yourself a dinner guest who is a good baker and get THEM to bring the rolls. I think it's too much to attempt rolls on top of everything else that has to be done for Thanksgiving dinner.

Re: biscuits. My grandmother made great ones. Her trick was to grease the baking pan and set it in the oven to heat while she rolled out and cut the biscuits. When ready she would take the pan out of the oven, wipe the top of each biscuit on the hot pan and set it on the pan to bake. She did this to get a nice golden crust on each biscuit. They were divine.

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:17 PM (LaT54)

185 I'm an American Yankee, a Northern Yankee, and a New England Yankee.

It is not an insult, but an accolade.
Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2



So, here's my epistemology of Yankee.

In the world, Yankee means American. In America, Yankee means northern. In the North, Yankee means New Englander.

In New England, Yankee means Protestant, the family has been here forever, and values of thrift and ingenuity are embraced. Your moneyed Yankees in certain parts of Boston are Brahmin.

My people, who've been dug in like ticks for centuries and never amounted to anything anyway, are called New Hampshire Swamp Yankees.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 05:18 PM (gIRsn)

186 I'm going to make this this year. Never made it before. I love using guests as guinea pigs. (they're all family so I don't care)

Maple Dijon Brussels Leaf Salad

Ingredients

2 pounds Brussels sprouts, trimmed
1/4 cup maple syrup
2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
4 teaspoons Dijon mustard
4 teaspoons apple cider vinegar
1 cup sweetened dried cranberries
1 cup cinnamon-roasted almonds

Directions

Cut cores out of Brussels sprouts using a paring knife. Peel layers apart to separate individual leaves; place leaves in a large bowl.

Whisk maple syrup, olive oil, Dijon mustard, and apple cider vinegar together in a small bowl. Drizzle over Brussels sprout leaves; add cranberries and toss to coat. Add almonds and toss again before serving.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:20 PM (Enq6K)

187 My knife skills consist of the following knowledge from the Marine Corps...

It's ok to get cut; it's not ok to get stabbed.

but seriously, I can chop, slice, dice, and chiffonade.

The key is a good knife a very good starter knife is the Shun 6 inch Chef's knife. you'll only need to sharpen it once a year. And it'll stay sharp enough to take off a finger nail (true story)

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at November 19, 2017 05:20 PM (5pTgP)

188 I'm going to put out some cheese and a few things to nibble on, and for the past few years I've been making this fruit punch for the bar and serving it in a pretty crystal beverage server I got for a steal at Sam's Club:

3 c. cranberry juice cocktail

2 c. pineapple juice

2 c. orange juice

1 (1 liter) bottle chilled ginger ale

It calls for 1 cup of light rum, but I have the rum on the side for non-drinkers. I garnish the punch in the beverage server with sliced star fruit. It's really pretty, and the punch is delish.

We serve wines at the table, but sweet tea especially for one of our foreign students who is addicted to it.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:21 PM (PY9jH)

189 So..I've been watching Outlander and noticed that they drink whisky like water and am wondering, since I've never been a Scotch drinker but do adore rye, whiskey and bourbon, what would be a good starting point for a beginner? Any scotch whisky experts here?

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 05:21 PM (jm1YL)

190 Someone here dislikes biscuits.

washrivergal doesn't care for Gershwin.

[pause]

Well, I don't care for Firefly myself.

Oh well, we're a tolerant bunch, here.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 05:21 PM (GsAUU)

191 An earlier reminder that one should have*something* with coffee, for Thursday morning.

Trader Joes has Danish...forget what they call them, they look like donut holes, in the frozen breakfast section. Wonderful heated with jam. Low maintenance, not filling, looks fancy.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #every man a Wildcat/go KSU at November 19, 2017 05:21 PM (x3yKT)

192 My sister makes bisquick biscuits all the time. Takes her about 12 seconds. And, yes, our family tradition is also of the "oh, shit, the biscuits" in the oven burning variety.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 05:21 PM (14URa)

193 i make cheater biscuits:
1/2 pt whipping cream
1.5 cups self-rising flour

mix together. dough sould stick to spoon and you, but not the bowl.

drop on ungreased pan and bake in 425*F oven 12-15 minutes or until tops start to brown.

makes as many as you want, usually 6 here. doubles, etc, but what's funny is that if i double it, i still usually only get 6 biscuits.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 05:22 PM (J1R3A)

194 I do like a few parsnips in my mashed potatoes, but you've gotta be careful about cutting them smaller, so they cook more quickly compared to the potatoes. And you've gotta cut out the centers in bigger parsnips 'cause they're too woody.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:22 PM (I/iGu)

195

Glennfiddich 15 or Balvenie Doublewood (Or Caribbean) are easily found and accessible single malts without rabid peat attack, good feet wetters.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:24 PM (qul7b)

196 I am someone, I am in the phone book.

Posted by: JT in KC at November 19, 2017 05:24 PM (FoSz+)

197 Tami, that sounds great. I may steal that and carry it (along with all the other stuff I'm "required" to bring at Christmas) to the Life Coach's house.

Like you said, they're family (well, in-laws) so if they don't like it I'll hear plenty about it, but my give-a-shit meter is permanently broken.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:24 PM (PY9jH)

198 Maybe we don't get really good russets, but I think they are too grainy. I love Yukon Gold mashed potatoes!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 05:12 PM (wYseH)

I've done both and like both...and really, they're just a conduit for the gravy anyway.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:25 PM (Enq6K)

199 parsnips are NOT potatoes.

they have no place at a dining room table, unless they were first used to feed a pig or a cow.

Posted by: redc1c4 at November 19, 2017 05:25 PM (J1R3A)

200 I am someone, I am in the phone book.

What's a phone book?

Posted by: Millenials everywhere at November 19, 2017 05:26 PM (gIRsn)

201 In Vino Veritas, + 1,000 on the Balvenie.

I have one bottle of chocolate port left but I'm not opening it quite yet.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 05:26 PM (hjzvx)

202 My people, who've been dug in like ticks for centuries and never amounted to anything anyway, are called New Hampshire Swamp Yankees.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 05:18 PM (gIRsn)

I live in the south part of the Berkshires. I was raised on farm in Yantis TX. I have lived here for 25 years. I find the people here quite similar to east TX. In other words, rednecks. May I say I find it heavenly

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 05:26 PM (4u7kU)

203 Parsnips are awesome.

Posted by: New Hampshire Swamp Yankee at November 19, 2017 05:27 PM (gIRsn)

204 Mashed Potatoes:

Yukon Gold or Russet?

------

potato... potahto. Russets are more available here and generally better value. Haven't had grainy issue CBD mentioned. Russets are more prone to overcook compared to the Yukons, but that's really only issue for salads and not mashed taters.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 19, 2017 05:27 PM (Dhht7)

205 I am something of a bake. I know it sounds like blasphemy but you can freeze rolls in good ziploc (or store brand) freezer bags once they have cooled all the way.

Defrost them on the counter right in said bag. Fresh as the day they were made.

Posted by: Mega at November 19, 2017 05:28 PM (rv0Fo)

206 Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 05:07 PM 

Close enough, I'll be over

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 05:28 PM (aC6Sd)

207 197 Tami, that sounds great. I may steal that and carry it (along with all the other stuff I'm "required" to bring at Christmas) to the Life Coach's house.

Like you said, they're family (well, in-laws) so if they don't like it I'll hear plenty about it, but my give-a-shit meter is permanently broken.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:24 PM (PY9jH)

Well this family knows I'll tell them McDonald's is not that far away is they're not happy.

Beside, there is always soooo much food here, it would be impossible to go away hungry.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:28 PM (Enq6K)

208 Something of a "bake". Thanks autocuke

Posted by: Mega at November 19, 2017 05:28 PM (rv0Fo)

209 203 Parsnips are awesome.
Posted by: New Hampshire Swamp Yankee at November 19, 2017 05:27 PM (gIRsn)

I always add parsnips to my terra misto

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 05:29 PM (4u7kU)

210

Glenn 18, Balvenie 21 and, for a blend, Redbreast 15 are solid performers. And not too spendy.

Hibiki 17 is a superb Nipponese.

And if you can find any, Jack Daniels Sinatra, to raise the flag.

And not too spendy.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:29 PM (qul7b)

211 One of these holidays, Jane D'oh is going to cut a bitch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 05:29 PM (qJtVm)

212 Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 05:21 PM

Id second the recommendations by In Vino Veritits and add that Glen Morangie in the sherry cask is good stuff to.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 05:29 PM (oLTNb)

213 I've read various approaches to cooking turkey so that the breast doesn't dry out. Cooking it breast down. Cooking it on its side for half the time, then turning to the other side for the other half. Any theories on this?

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:30 PM (LaT54)

214

I could go full retard buying collectible top shelf's for an investment cellar. But, storage...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:31 PM (qul7b)

215 Glen Morangie in the sherry cask is good stuff to.

Throw The Macallan in there too. Sounds like a good start.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 05:31 PM (eIQHF)

216 @189: "Any scotch whisky experts here?"

If you wanna try some of the basic, benchmark scotches, then Glenlivet 12 year, Glenfiddich 12 year, or even Johnnie Walker Black Label are good starting points.

As mentioned above, Balvenie Doublewood is a sneaky good bottle for the price, which you should be able to find for forty bucks.

If you wanna try something more unusual, then I'd suggest Lagavulin 16 year, but it's more expensive, price varies between stores, and some people say it tastes like licking a cigar ashtray.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:32 PM (I/iGu)

217 Glen Morangie in the sherry cask is good stuff to.

What are you wearing ??

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 05:33 PM (4u7kU)

218 I am heating up a turkey dinner from Winco. We thought the son and girlfriend were coming out yesterday so picked it up for that. It's a precooked turkey, with sides by Reser (dressing, mashed potatoes and gravy, green bean casserole, cranberry relish, and rolls) plus a pumpkin pie. I'm not sure if it's like Thanksgiving MREs or cafeteria food. It doesn't have margarine or preservatives. My big oven doesn't work but I will probably do another turkey in the electric roaster this week.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 19, 2017 05:33 PM (Lqy/e)

219 Redbreast is good, but it's Irish.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:34 PM (I/iGu)

220 Speaking of pumpkin pie ice cream, AHE....I've made this pie numerous times and then freeze it so it's a pumpkin ice cream pie. Tasty!!

Libby's Pumpkin Cream Pie: http://tinyurl.com/ycazuupa

*But* with a Gingersnap crust:
--1 1/4 cups (about 2 crushed gingersnap cookies
--1/3 cup butter, melted
--1/4 cup granulated sugar


Preheat oven to 375F.

Combine crushed cookies, butter and 1/4 cup sugar in small bowl. Press onto bottom and sides of 9-inch pie plate.
Cool for 8 minutes. Cool completely. Spread pie filling over gingersnap crust. Freeze for 2 hours or until firm.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:34 PM (W+vEI)

221

LOL, last winter I spent some time in rural Germany, very hard to find good stuff but $15 a keg British trash scotch was everywhere. Apparently revenge for the blitz.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:35 PM (qul7b)

222 Just do an artisan loaf, a round. Simple as that. Make the dough the day before and pull it out of the fridge to finish

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 19, 2017 05:35 PM (vDUpd)

223 I was thinking of grabbing one of these Whisky Advent Calendars for the mister. We may end up fighting over it though. http://tinyurl.com/ycd7xwdq

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 05:35 PM (eIQHF)

224 Marine Corps...



It's ok to get cut; it's not ok to get stabbed.



but seriously, I can chop, slice, dice, and chiffonade.

Only the elite troops get the chiffonade training, sir.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 05:36 PM (14URa)

225 i make a foil tent until the last 20 or so.
per granny's instructions

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 05:36 PM (MF4DY)

226 214>>> I never understood that mindset. That stuff is made to be enjoyed

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 05:36 PM (oLTNb)

227 Any one who does not like biscuits did not have a grandma who made biscuits. Tho I mostly miss her apple pie. Grandma passed down the recipe to my sister and cousins but its not the same.

Posted by: Big V at November 19, 2017 05:36 PM (MVE/7)

228 I endorse the blended scotches mentioned above, Black Label or Chivas. Until you really have decided to pursue single malts, why spend $60-$100+ when a $40-$50 bottle will give you a solid idea of your likes. I love my single malt Islays, but i still have JWBL on my shelf.

Posted by: goatexchange at November 19, 2017 05:37 PM (YFnq5)

229 I made a joking suggestion yesterday to my sister about how much our cat and dog loved the smoked turkey he made, that a third one for the family pets would be a hit. Told her he might not want to mention that to him since he might be insulted.

Turns out he was flattered instead, so this Thanksgiving, there will be a third turkey for us to split among our pets. May sound strange, but I'm grateful to John, and so will our family accumulation of 6 (maybe 7, if middle sister has acquired another) be.

Posted by: empire1 at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (2A7N3)

230 Anyone who does not like biscuits is a Hillary! supporter.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (Sfs6o)

231 Thanksgiving here will be all toddler friendly so going with smoked breast (it's cooked already) scalloped corn casserole, baked potato and maybe green beans or a salad, pie and pie and gravy. That's it.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (vDUpd)

232 225
i make a foil tent until the last 20 or so.

per granny's instructions

Posted by: concrete girl at November 19, 2017 05:36 PM (MF4DY)
Same with my mom, cg, only she cooked hers overnight (it was always a very big bird and the stuffing inside and nobody ever got sick not even once). Baste, baste, baste, tent.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (14URa)

233 Has PDT done the stupid turkey pardoning thing? If he did, the MFM deliberately skipped it.

I was wishing he'd walk out with the WH chef, be presented the turkey, and make a throat slashing move with his finger. Then the chef whacks the turkey on live TV and carries it to the kitchen.

End. Scene.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (PY9jH)

234 I've done both and like both...and really, they're just a conduit for the gravy anyway.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:25 PM (Enq6K)

There is a very fine restaurant in NYC called Bouley.

There recipe for what is essentially mashed potatoes with a fancy name is half potatoes and half butter.

It works very, very well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 05:39 PM (wYseH)

235 217>> I feel like you should be buying me a drink when you talk to me like that. o_0

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 05:39 PM (oLTNb)

236 Thanksgiving dinner shouldn't be a chore. If it is, get take out.

Mmm. Turkey. Prime rib. Elk backstrap. Ham.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 05:39 PM (bD2SM)

237 @233: "I was wishing he'd walk out with the WH chef, be presented the turkey, and make a throat slashing move with his finger. Then the chef whacks the turkey on live TV and carries it to the kitchen."

Yes. Yes, please. So much this. I've been quietly hoping for a turkey non-pardon since spring.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:40 PM (I/iGu)

238 213 I've read various approaches to cooking turkey so that the breast doesn't dry out. Cooking it breast down. Cooking it on its side for half the time, then turning to the other side for the other half. Any theories on this?

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:30 PM (LaT54)

I've cooked a turkey every possible way. Last year I tried one of those turkey oven bags. Loved it! Every part of it was very moist - (do stuff pads of butter under the skin, which I'm sure helps keep the breast moist. Turkey cooks faster in those too it seemed to me.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:40 PM (Enq6K)

239 Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at November 19, 2017 04:39 PM (VJBq9

Sam the Butcher, he's the man I adore,
Told me he's been married before

Posted by: Second Hand Rose, from Second Avenue, wearing Second hand clothes at November 19, 2017 05:40 PM (brIR5)

240 Oh re: Thanksgiving breakfast. When I was young, it was only my mother to make the dinner for all five of us. She cut us a deal: we could have pie for breakfast, but no lunch as long as we didn't complain about being hungry.

Well. To an 8-, 5- and 3-year old pie for breakfast was the best thing ever! We totally took that deal and stayed out of her way.

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:40 PM (LaT54)

241 I was wishing he'd walk out with the WH chef, be
presented the turkey, and make a throat slashing move with his finger.
Then the chef whacks the turkey on live TV and carries it to the
kitchen.

End. Scene.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (PY9jH)
Jane . . . I already loved you enough. Now you have to put this? We are not worthy . . .

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 05:41 PM (14URa)

242 Has PDT done the stupid turkey pardoning thing? If he did, the MFM deliberately skipped it.

I
was wishing he'd walk out with the WH chef, be presented the turkey,
and make a throat slashing move with his finger. Then the chef whacks
the turkey on live TV and carries it to the kitchen.

End. Scene.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (PY9jH)


That would be a thing of beauty. And, bonus, lib heads explode all over the Country.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 05:42 PM (4ZKcy)

243 I loved my Mamaw's biscuits. There was a big bowl of Gold Medal All Purpose flour under the sink, disk towel covering. She would take it out, pour in some buttermilk, dollop in some Crisco, start mixing with her hand, and TADA a few minutes later. biscuits. She had a little 6 inch skillet she would put the leftover biscuits in (usually 2 or 3 big one) and then into the oven. NO STOP, WAIT, then love was added to each biscuit. A table spoon dipped into a container of bacon grease and gently touched to the top of the biscuit. Oh yes that greasy clear love of cloven hoofed animals made the biscuits brown and crunchy on top. All done, NO WAIT THERE IS MORE.
Chocolate Gravy! Hersheys Cocoa Powder, yep! Cups of sugar, oh yeah! And milk in a boiler stirred with love and care while the biscuits browned in the oven.
Nothing got the day started like the carbs of flour and milk, about 200 calories of pure sugar, and drink of choice. My best cousin drank Coca-Cola for breakfast. We hunted, fished, and tore up shit with little regards for life and limb.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 05:42 PM (BtQd4)

244 240 Oh re: Thanksgiving breakfast. When I was young, it was only my mother to make the dinner for all five of us. She cut us a deal: we could have pie for breakfast, but no lunch as long as we didn't complain about being hungry.

Well. To an 8-, 5- and 3-year old pie for breakfast was the best thing ever! We totally took that deal and stayed out of her way.
Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:40 PM (LaT54)

Pie for breakfast is still the best thing ever.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 05:42 PM (NWiLs)

245 What? No love for garlic mash?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 05:42 PM (hjzvx)

246 >>>My knife skills consist of the following knowledge from the Marine Corps...
It's ok to get cut; it's not ok to get stabbed.
but seriously, I can chop, slice, dice, and chiffonade.<<<

I rammed a Kabar into my palm shucking an oyster. I'm permanently damaged.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 05:42 PM (bD2SM)

247 If I'm drinking scotch I'm drinking Johnnie Walker Black with a splash of water exclusively.

You can go broke dabbling in single malts.

Posted by: Kreplach at November 19, 2017 05:43 PM (Wtll+)

248 I'm getting pies and rolls from Costco tomorrow, which will go in the freezer until Wednesday, then Thursday morning I'm picking up the turkey, gravy, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, cornbread stuffing, and green bean casserole from Harris Teeter. I may make a corn pudding if I'm feeling energetic.

Don't judge me. Thanksgiving dinner got dumped in my lap and I have to drive 300 miles on Wednesday afternoon/evening or Thursday morning, if I-95 is really hideous on Wednesday.

Posted by: biancaneve at November 19, 2017 05:43 PM (A/iod)

249 >>End. Scene.


!!!!


Or pardon one, then....do that with the 2nd one.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:43 PM (W+vEI)

250 Ach, Jake the plumber

Posted by: Barbara from Brooklyn at November 19, 2017 05:43 PM (brIR5)

251 I've read various approaches to cooking turkey so that the breast doesn't dry out.... Any theories on this?

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:30

Used to cook until breast was 165, dark meat 180 as I believe USDA still recommends and it was dry. Now I cook breast to 145-150 and dark to approx 165. Just depends how long it's going to rest prior to carving and serving. No more dried breastes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 19, 2017 05:43 PM (Dhht7)

252

Donny Two Scoops: "The turkey, he did not come to us like a man, he did not show respect. Tonight, he cooks with the dressing!"

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:44 PM (qul7b)

253 Don't judge me. Thanksgiving dinner got dumped in
my lap and I have to drive 300 miles on Wednesday afternoon/evening or
Thursday morning, if I-95 is really hideous on Wednesday.

Posted by: biancaneve at November 19, 2017 05:43 PM (A/iod)
When is I-95 not really hideous?

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 05:44 PM (14URa)

254 I have a recipe I may try some time (not Thanksgiving) for mashed potatoes with goat cheese.

Yesterday I was taking it easy (husband was on a campout with Scouts) and watched Trisha Yearwood's cooking show on the Food Network. She made her late mother's no fuss turkey, and it looked incredibly easy and pretty good.

She seasoned the turkey inside and out, trussed it, and placed it in a covered roasting pan. She then put it in a 500 degree oven, and immediately turned it off. You leave the turkey in the oven *without ever opening the door* for 6 hours, and a 12 lb. turkey comes out perfect. There were lots of drippings from the turkey for gravy.

I don't even own a covered roaster, but I'd love to try that recipe. I guess to get crispy skin you could place it under the broiler for a bit. The turkey did come out nicely browned.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:45 PM (PY9jH)

255 Chocolate Gravy!

First time I ever saw chocolate gravy was when we moved to Arkansas. I'd never heard of it before.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 05:45 PM (eIQHF)

256 Awe, I think it's sweet you all celebrate Thanksgiving. Let me just say, you're welcome.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 19, 2017 05:46 PM (/qEW2)

257 @247: "You can go broke dabbling in single malts."

Indeed. Trick with single malts is finding the underpriced bottles that suit your particular taste and hoping no one ever gives them a good review in a popular men's magazine.

Or being rich and not giving a damn. There's always that too.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:47 PM (I/iGu)

258 189: "Any scotch whisky experts here?" 

As a general rule I find in Scotch and Red wine, get the most expensive you can without breaking a sweat.
If starting out don't get the cheapest, it will be the worst.

My opinion

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 05:47 PM (aC6Sd)

259 >>She made her late mother's no fuss turkey, and it looked incredibly easy and pretty good.


I have seen that episode - how does that work?!?
Would love to try it someday, too. Also, looks like cooking with Trisha while drinking lots of wine would be a hoot.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:48 PM (W+vEI)

260
>>She made her late mother's no fuss turkey, and it looked incredibly easy and pretty good.


I have seen that episode - how does that work?!?
Would love to try it someday, too. Also, looks like cooking with Trisha while drinking lots of wine would be a hoot.


Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:48 PM (W+vEI)


Yeah, I tend to reward myself with wine on turkey day while I cook.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:50 PM (PY9jH)

261 "I was wishing he'd walk out with the WH chef, be presented the turkey, and make a throat slashing move with his finger. Then the chef whacks the turkey on live TV and carries it to the kitchen."

Yes. Yes, please. So much this. I've been quietly hoping for a turkey non-pardon since spring.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:40 PM (I/iGu)


And PDT puts a bird-sized Kathy Griffin mask over the turkey's head right before the chopping.

Posted by: Hands Solo at November 19, 2017 05:50 PM (EzdLW)

262 257 @247: "You can go broke dabbling in single malts."

Helluva way to go bust

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 05:50 PM (4u7kU)

263 My Mom's father (my grandfather and we called him Nanny) was a cook for a while in WWII.
So big holidays he brought out the packets of yeast, warm water, and flour to make old fashioned dinner rolls.
Had to rise and be formed 2 or 3 times over the day. Great rolls.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 05:51 PM (BtQd4)

264 203 Parsnips are awesome.
Posted by: New Hampshire Swamp Yankee at November 19, 2017 05:27 PM (gIRsn

Aka Swedes or turnips. The orange ones, not the white.

Agreed.m

Posted by: Fox2! at November 19, 2017 05:51 PM (brIR5)

265 Tami, how many servings with your brussels sprouts salad recipe?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:51 PM (PY9jH)

266 I have started to bake all my bread in cupcake pans. I find this helps keep evil carb consumption down and the crust per cubic inch is high.
I like crust.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 19, 2017 05:52 PM (e1mEI)

267 Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:04 PM

Fresh yeast rolls are one justification for spreading Thanksgiving dinner over more than one meal, if necessary.

I usually use the Rhodes Bake and Serve roll dough, too. Usually end up letting it rise twice. Smash rolls after first rising, fold into Parkerhouse rolls with heavily-buttered hands for the second rising. Allow to rise in a place that's not overly warm.

I usually bake them a little longer than the directions state, sometimes take the oven temp. down 25 degrees partway through baking.

Posted by: KT at November 19, 2017 05:53 PM (BVQ+1)

268 From Mediaite: "Brian Stelter: Trump's LaVar Ball Tweet Is Immature at Best, 'Race-Baiting at Worst'"

Trump should up the ante, and say he already helped pardon three turkeys earlier this month, one of who is son of the biggest turkey of all.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:53 PM (I/iGu)

269

Cooking with wine is awesome. And occasionally useful in a recipe too.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:53 PM (qul7b)

270 Add to my PDT turkey killing scenario above, Barron Trump watches, and turns and high fives his dad. Melania is waiting on the WH steps, and she, PDT and Barron walk in together, arms around each other.

Now I'm going to be disappointed when it doesn't happen.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:53 PM (PY9jH)

271 Cooking with wine is awesome. And occasionally useful in a recipe too.

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:53 PM (qul7b)


This. Although it DID contribute to my forgetting the rolls last year. They were a tad well done when I hurried to retrieve them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (PY9jH)

272 270 Add to my PDT turkey killing scenario above, Barron Trump watches, and turns and high fives his dad. Melania is waiting on the WH steps, and she, PDT and Barron walk in together, arms around each other.

Barron walks on, while PDT takes M into the coat closet for a knee-trembler...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (qul7b)

273 Cathead biscuits and chocolate gravy, FTW.

My best friend has no family and he doesn't cook much. One day he was reminiscing about his grandma's cathead biscuits and chocolate gravy and how much he missed her. So, I found a recipe from a southern blogger and made it for him. He was quite teary-eyed and very happy.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (Dhht7)

274 Anyone see Trump's earlier tweet?

@realDonaldTrump

Now that the three basketball players are out of China and saved from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo, is unaccepting of what I did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. I should have left them in jail!

Here's what he's responding to:

ESPN - LaVar Ball downplayed his son's shoplifting incident in China, as well as President Donald Trump's involvement in getting LiAngelo Ball and two other UCLA basketball players back to the United States earlier this week.

"Who?" LaVar Ball told ESPN on Friday, when asked about Trump's involvement in the matter. "What was he over there for? Don't tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out."

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (Enq6K)

275 @270: "Now I'm going to be disappointed when it doesn't happen."

Might as well let Barron carry the severed turkey head still dripping wth blood up the carpeted steps too..

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (I/iGu)

276 I think Don Jr. would have to be there in full hunting gear, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (W+vEI)

277 230 Anyone who does not like biscuits is a Hillary! supporter.
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (Sfs6o)

My grandma made beer biscuits that were about the size of a flatten softball. Fabulous

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 05:56 PM (4u7kU)

278 265 Tami, how many servings with your brussels sprouts salad recipe?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 05:51 PM (PY9jH)

Says 12 Jane.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:56 PM (Enq6K)

279 KT, I may steal that. Sounds wonderful and easy.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 05:56 PM (4ZKcy)

280 How to keep the turkey moist when in the oven?

Cover is in cheesecloth that has been soaked in butter/margarine and alcohol (I use bourbon, but a decent beer or whine is also good).

The cheesecloth soaks in the liquid and steams the top. When you baste, the cheesecloth in part soaks that up. This way, the bastings do not just roll off the turkey's back.

Uncover near the end to properly brown the bird.

Posted by: The Thankful Hat at November 19, 2017 05:56 PM (itfg0)

281 I like a little parsnip cooked with carrot for Thanksgiving. About one large parsnip for 3 or 4 carrots. Peel and slice them all. Simmer in just enough water that you can get it all to evaporate by the time the carrots are tender and the parsnips fall apart. Add butter, salt, pepper. Stir to coat carrots with buttery parsnip fluff.

Posted by: KT at November 19, 2017 05:56 PM (BVQ+1)

282 There is really nothing like baking a pizza on a 8" griddle, taking it carefully out of the oven with the hot pad, turning to rummage through the drawers for the pizza cutter, and then firmly grabbing the griddle handle to stabilize it for cutting the pizza.

Reminds me of the punch line: "Nah, it just doesn't take me a lot of time to look at a horseshoe"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 05:57 PM (2K6fY)

283 Jane:

Do you have that pecan pie recipe handy? I let everyone pick their "must haves" for Thanksgiving in an attempt to eliminate some of the 300 side dishes we usually end up with and youngest son pulled Pecan Pie out of his butt! (Fun phrasing for morons.)

I've never made it before, and the only recipe I have is the Karo syrup one (Don't judge me---I'm an Irish Yankee.)

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 05:57 PM (HiDrR)

284 I made oatmeal chocolate chip cookies this afternoon.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 05:57 PM (MYss1)

285 RE Trump and the turkey.... be pretty nice if he asked Phil from Duck Dynasty to say a prayer and then handed the bird over to him.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 05:59 PM (oLTNb)

286 I made oatmeal chocolate chip cookies this afternoon.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 05:57 PM (MYss1)

Enough for everyone?

Actually, I don't care about everyone else....as long as there are several for me.

[Raisins too? I hope so.]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 06:00 PM (wYseH)

287 Jeepers! Costco is selling Chex with seasoning mix included. America is too lazy to drag their ass over to the spice section?

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 19, 2017 06:00 PM (e1mEI)

288 This is a fun appetizer for T-day or Christmas:

Kahlua-Pecan-Brown Sugar Baked Brie

http://tinyurl.com/yaq6ggch

And this is a decadent pecan pie recipe from Emeril:

http://tinyurl.com/ybery99w

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 06:01 PM (Enq6K)

289 "Who?" LaVar Ball told ESPN on Friday, when asked about Trump's involvement in the matter. "What was he over there for? Don't tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out."
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (Enq6K)

--That asshole is poking the wrong bear.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:01 PM (GsAUU)

290
Ha! Funny. I just got through making rolls. From scratch. One hour.

I used my pizza dough recipe. Pre-heated my bowl for fast yeast fornication. I suspect they like it hot. Gave 'em about fifteen minutes to do their thing in the microwave on 'bake' at 100 degrees.

Then rolled them out into a nice round roundness. A sprinkle of corn meal beneath, because I'm not a savage. Slattered on garlic butter on top. Then rolled them into crescent shape, then slathered on more garlic butter, then a sprinkle of poppy seeds.

Fifteen minutes in the oven. To die for.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 06:02 PM (ajiE5)

291 In New England, Yankee means Protestant, the family has been here forever, and values of thrift and ingenuity are embraced. Your moneyed Yankees in certain parts of Boston are Brahmin.

My people, who've been dug in like ticks for centuries and never amounted to anything anyway, are called New Hampshire Swamp Yankees.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 05:18 PM (gIRsn)

I'm a recovering-Catholic-moved-to-Massachusetts-when-I-was-5 Yankee, which means I'm not a Yankee's Yankee.

So I'm 3/4ths of the way there.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 06:02 PM (cu8/f)

292 287 - That is my exact opinion about premade Rice Krispies Treats. They take about 30 seconds to make. People are lazy, I tell you!

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 06:03 PM (LaT54)

293 As a proud Son of Alabama, I have several chromosomes dedicate specifically to biscuits. Some of those are soaked in sausage gravy, some in redeye gravy, some in plain old butter.

Mmmm, biscuits...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 19, 2017 06:04 PM (tRaq7)

294 Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM

Seriously!? What an asshat. PDTS ought to send him a really cheap pair of knock offs and a pacifier. And a little gift card...

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 06:04 PM (oLTNb)

295 g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2017 06:05 PM (KCxzN)

296 Shoves cookie thru USB port for CharlieBrown'sDildo.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:06 PM (MYss1)

297 My favorite gravy is not sausage, but made with pan drippings from fried chicken. The catch is, first you have to fry the chicken. Or go to Knott's Berry Farm.

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 06:06 PM (LaT54)

298 @189: "So..I've been watching Outlander ..."

Cherry Bounce! Favorite of George Washington and supposedly contributed to his tooth loss.

Fill a Mason jar mostly full of fresh pitted sour cherries, add some reasonably cheap blended scotch like Johnnie Walker Red Label or Dewar's White Label, then keep adding sugar and stirring until it stop dissolving.

Strain and drink six weeks later and eat the cherries with vanilla ice cream.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:06 PM (I/iGu)

299 I am odd, I like to make mashed potatoes slightly lumpy, mashing them with a pastry cutter.

Another wonderful trick is to mash them with cooked turnips. You have to cook the turnips separate and drain them extra well.

But they both go well with turkey gravy.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:07 PM (2K6fY)

300 I'd like to meet NaCly dog for Thanksgiving someday. Sounds like I won't have to go through the trouble of brining him.

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 19, 2017 06:07 PM (/qEW2)

301 Ah, Knott's Berry Farm. I remember going there as a kid and it really was a farm with a few extra things to do. Seemed like it was in the middle of nowhere.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 06:08 PM (4ZKcy)

302 >>And this is a decadent pecan pie recipe from Emeril:


http://tinyurl.com/ybery99w



Ooh, that looks good, Tami!

I make this one and the great thing is the chocolate is subtle - it's rich.
You have to follow the tweaks from the reviews, though, on using semi-sweet chips and adding vanilla:

http://tinyurl.com/y7e7dqbp

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:08 PM (W+vEI)

303 293 As a proud Son of Alabama, I have several chromosomes dedicate specifically to biscuits. Some of those are soaked in sausage gravy, some in redeye gravy, some in plain old butter.

Mmmm, biscuits...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 19, 2017 06:04 PM (tRaq7)

--Seriously, what's wrong with people who don't like biscuits?

I mean, there's the health aspect, but what's not to love about the taste?

When I was a littl'un and my mom wanted to say "I love you" without words, she made us biscuits from scratch. Or lasagna.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:09 PM (GsAUU)

304 [Raisins too? I hope so.]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 06:00 PM (wYseH)
--------
Bleeeccch!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 06:09 PM (qJtVm)

305 Just say no to raisins in oatmeal cookies.

Chopped dried blueberries? Perhaps, yes.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:10 PM (I/iGu)

306 Had a friend whose father would cut the heads of chickens in the backyard. He'd put a loop around their necks and tie it to the clothesline. take a big knife, cut through the necks and let the chickens drop to the ground running spurting the blood out their necks to drain them.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 06:11 PM (zOpu5)

307 When I cook I always set a timer as a reminder, especially for the oven

Posted by: Neverstopfishing at November 19, 2017 06:11 PM (OLMlN)

308 Jane:



Do you have that pecan pie recipe handy? I let everyone pick their
"must haves" for Thanksgiving in an attempt to eliminate some of the 300
side dishes we usually end up with and youngest son pulled Pecan Pie
out of his butt! (Fun phrasing for morons.)



I've never made it before, and the only recipe I have is the Karo syrup one (Don't judge me---I'm an Irish Yankee.)

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 05:57 PM (HiDrR)


Here's the one I'm making:

Bourbon-Pecan-Fudge Pie


1 package refrigerated pie crusts (2 crusts)

3 (1-ounce) squares unsweetened chocolate, chopped

3/4 cup butter

3 large eggs

1 cup sugar

1/4 cup evaporated milk

2 T. light corn syrup

1 T. vanilla extract

1 cup pecan pieces

2 T. bourbon

Prepared chocolate sauce (optional), vanilla ice cream (optional)

1. Preheat oven to 350.

2. On lightly floured surface, unroll one sheet of piecrust dough. Lightly brush top of dough with water. Unroll remaining sheet of dough and place over first sheet of dough. Using a rolling pin, gently roll into an 11-inch circle. Line a 9-inch pie plate with piecrust. Fold dough edges under and crimp.

3. In a small saucepan, combine chocolate and butter over medium heat. Cook, stirring constantly, until chocolate and butter are melted and smooth. Remove from heat and let cool.

4. In a mixing bowl, combine eggs, sugar, evaporated milk, and corn syrup, beating at medium speed with an electric mixer until blended. Add chocolate mixture, beating until combined. Add vanilla, pecans, and bourbon, stirring to combine. Pour filling into prepared crust.

5. Bake until set, approximately 35 minutes.

6. Serve warm with chocolate sauce and ice cream if desired.






Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 06:11 PM (PY9jH)

309 I've read various approaches to cooking turkey so that the breast doesn't dry out. Cooking it breast down. Cooking it on its side for half the time, then turning to the other side for the other half. Any theories on this?

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:30 PM (LaT54)

Spatchcocking solves that problem and also browns the thighs.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 06:11 PM (cu8/f)

310 Fox2! at November 19, 2017 05:51 PM

Parsnips are related to carrots. They are not closely related to turnips or swedes (rutabagas).

I like turnips raw. Especially the little white summer turnips. I don't think parsnips are very good raw.

Rutabagas are a different species from turnips though they look a lot alike. They are firmer than turnips and are usually cooked, though you can eat them raw if you are in the mood for some conquerable resistance.

More on rutabagas and turnips here. Don't you love the word "rutabaga"?
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/352635.php

Posted by: KT at November 19, 2017 06:11 PM (BVQ+1)

311 I make this one and the great thing is the chocolate is subtle - it's rich.
You have to follow the tweaks from the reviews, though, on using semi-sweet chips and adding vanilla:

http://tinyurl.com/y7e7dqbp

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:08 PM (W+vEI)


Yum! I love pecan pie!

I'm not doing the desserts this year. Niece has ordered 3 YUGE pies from a bakery near her, dutch apple, pecan and pumpkin.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 06:12 PM (Enq6K)

312 >>
Just say no to raisins in oatmeal cookies.


Dried cranberries FTW!!

http://www.finecooking.com/recipe/oatmeal-cranberry-cookies

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:12 PM (W+vEI)

313 230 Anyone who does not like biscuits is a Hillary! supporter.
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 05:38 PM (Sfs6o)

So ??

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 06:12 PM (4u7kU)

314 304
[Raisins too? I hope so.]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 06:00 PM (wYseH)

-------
They're like the carrots of the fruit world.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 06:12 PM (14URa)

315 Raisins have no place in a cookie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 06:13 PM (ycWCI)

316 @310: "Parsnips are related to carrots."

Yup. So much so that the French like using them in place of carrots when making lighter (colorless) versions stocks and sauces.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:13 PM (I/iGu)

317 ESPN - LaVar Ball downplayed his son's shoplifting incident in China, as well as President Donald Trump's involvement in getting LiAngelo Ball and two other UCLA basketball players back to the United States earlier this week.

"Who?" LaVar Ball told ESPN on Friday, when asked about Trump's involvement in the matter. "What was he over there for? Don't tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out."

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (Enq6K)




Trump should have let the punks rot over there, then we could have heard LaVar squealing that Trump did nothing to save his kid. Sod LaVar sideways with a rusty chainsaw

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 06:13 PM (SiINZ)

318 Anybody want a biscuit? I made six but it turns out I only wanted one. Single people shop Costco at their peril.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 06:14 PM (14URa)

319
More on rutabagas and turnips here. Don't you love the word "rutabaga"?
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/352635.php
Posted by: KT at November 19, 2017 06:11 PM (BVQ+1)


*ahem*

"Mangelwurzle"


Thank you.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:15 PM (2K6fY)

320 I make a Swiss/Green Onion Bread instead of rolls. I cheat by buying Bridgford frozen white bread dough.

1 loaf frozen white bread dough
1 cup shredded Swiss cheese
3/4 cup sliced green onions
1/2 stick butter, melted
Poppy seeds

Let bread dough rise as per directions on package. Then cut it into 1" pieces. Put about 1/3 of the pieces into a greased bundt pan. Sprinkle with 1/3 of the grated Swiss, green onions, a little poppy seed and drizzle with 1/3 of the melted butter. Repeat two more times. Bake at 375 for 25 minutes.

Here's the best part: YOU CAN MAKE IT THE DAY BEFORE AND NUKE IT for a little bit just before serving. Savory, warm, and delicious.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:15 PM (HiDrR)

321 318 Anybody want a biscuit? I made six but it turns out I only wanted one. Single people shop Costco at their peril.
Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 06:14 PM (14URa)

--I'll take two.

Especially if Red Lobster.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:15 PM (GsAUU)

322 >>Don't tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out."


One can only imagine how he would have reacted if Trump had pulled an Obama and done absolutely nothing.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:15 PM (W+vEI)

323 @314: "They're like the carrots of the fruit world."

@315: "Raisins have no place in a cookie."

*says nothing about raisins in carrot cake*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:16 PM (I/iGu)

324 Peaches, freeze and reheat is your friend.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:16 PM (hjzvx)

325 >>I make a Swiss/Green Onion Bread instead of rolls.

That sounds delicious!!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:17 PM (W+vEI)

326 IrishEi, that sound heavenly. Especially in winter with a roast and plenty of gravy to sop up.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 06:18 PM (4ZKcy)

327
Thank you so much, Jane!


Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:18 PM (HiDrR)

328
Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:15 PM (HiDrR)
That sounds amazing!! And very elegant.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 06:18 PM (14URa)

329 Raisins are good in oatmeal cookies, we have Crazins in pomegranate and cherry, get they would be good too.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 06:19 PM (aC6Sd)

330
My oven has something like four different timers. It's constantly nagging me about something. I also keep an old fashioned three minute hourglass timer and old fashioned crank-it 60 minute minute timer handy, too.

I forget a lot of shit outside the kitchen... inside the kitchen... not so much.

I also compile a checklist before starting. Tell me I'm not obsessive compulsive, tell me I'm not obsessive compulsive, tell me I'm not obsessive compulsive.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 06:19 PM (ajiE5)

331 Jane, why the double crust?

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (N3JsI)

332 Especially in winter with a roast and plenty of gravy to sop up.
Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 06:18 PM
~~~~

Exactly. And beef stew too.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (HiDrR)

333 Raisins have no place in a cookie.
---

Raisins have no reason to exist.

* Everything you use raisins in would be better served with cherries.
* Those raisins could have been table grapes or wine.
* How many Trick or Treaters have been terrorized with mini boxes of wrinkled death?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (qJtVm)

334 "Who?" LaVar Ball told ESPN on Friday, when asked about Trump's involvement in the matter. "What was he over there for? Don't tell me nothing. Everybody wants to make it seem like he helped me out."

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 05:55 PM (Enq6K)


========

Liberals are turning ungrateful assholishness into a virtue.

Hopefully this will show people that it's pointless to try to appease them and it will turn people off of that movement.

I guess LaVar isn't celebrating Thanksgiving since he seems to be incapable of giving thanks.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (/qEW2)

335
Jane, why the double crust?


Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (N3JsI)


I dunno. I just followed the recipe. It's to die for.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 06:21 PM (PY9jH)

336 Jane, thanks.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at November 19, 2017 06:22 PM (N3JsI)

337 I just told my husband about that douche LaVar Ball.

My husband said, "He should consider his son lucky. Obama would have left them over there."

Me: "Umm. No. First, because black, second, because basketball players."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2017 06:23 PM (PY9jH)

338 213 I've read various approaches to cooking turkey so that the breast doesn't dry out. Cooking it breast down. Cooking it on its side for half the time, then turning to the other side for the other half. Any theories on this?

I've discovered a new technique. Go to Thanksgiving dinner at your son and new daughter-in-law's place. No worries whatsoever about how the turkey turns out. In other words, as long as I don't have to make it (have done it for 30+ years) it will be fine. Don't care at all how dry or moist it is just so long the only thing I have to do is eat it.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at November 19, 2017 06:23 PM (O1SAh)

339 @334: "I guess LaVar isn't celebrating Thanksgiving since he seems to be incapable of giving thanks."

There are lots of people in the sports world who loathe LaVar and keep saying his fifteen minutes of fame should be over.

The best part? Those same people are likely to take his side in any feud with Trump.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:24 PM (I/iGu)

340 I also compile a checklist before starting. Tell me I'm not obsessive compulsive, tell me I'm not obsessive compulsive, tell me I'm not obsessive compulsive.
Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 06:19 PM
~~~~~

I have a printed menu.
Plus a printed "Do-Aheads" list for making on Wednesday.
A printed schedule with times for prepping, into-oven, out-of-oven, etc.
And a printed list of which serving dishes for each.

I know all about OCD. And dementia. LOL

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:24 PM (HiDrR)

341 PDT could have left the basketball players in China until the parents begged him to help. Then they wouldn't be able to claim he did nothing.

Or he could get the parents citizenship to emigrate to China to be with their kids. We don't like to break up families, and China has a severe diversity problem.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 06:25 PM (/qEW2)

342 >>>Anybody want a biscuit? I made six but it turns out I only wanted one. Single people shop Costco at their peril.<<<

I'll take one, but next time freeze those babies. Fair warning; Costco is not for single people.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 06:25 PM (bD2SM)

343 I use to make a sweet potato pie that had bourbon in it for T-day all the time...come to think of it, don't know why I haven't in several years.

It was a recipe from Jeff Smith, The Frugal Gourmet.

Sweet Potato Bourbon Pie
"The Frugal Gourmet Cooks American"

Ingredients:

2 cups cooked, peeled, and mashed sweet potatoes
4 tablespoons butter
3 eggs, beaten
1 cup sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 teaspoon freshly grated nutmeg
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
1/2 cup bourbon whiskey
1 unbaked pie shell


Mix all ingredients together an place in an unbaked pie shell. Place in a 400 degree oven and immediately turn oven to 325. Baked for about 45 minutes or until the center of the pie is set. Test by inserting a table knife into the center of the pie. If it comes out clean, the pie is finished.

Serve with whipped cream or ice cream on top.
(I never served it with this)

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 06:26 PM (Enq6K)

344 That looks amazing Jane - will file away for future use since I'm not making the pies this year...

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:26 PM (W+vEI)

345 I'm making Spinach Dip for Thanksgiving Day.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:26 PM (MYss1)

346
The proper amount of poppy seeds to apply to rolls is just short of your guests failing a drug test for heroin.

It's kind of amazing how long a bottle of poppy seeds actually lasts. You look at the bottle on the shelf, look at the price and think, 'What a rip-off'.

Many years later you look at a half-full jar. And wish you hadn't been so n____erdly conservative in application. Took three words to avoid one.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 06:26 PM (ajiE5)

347 Hubby is taking me out to dinner...probably because he senses there's nothing going on in the kitchen.

BBL....

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2017 06:29 PM (Enq6K)

348
I had a somewhat abbreviated early Thanksgiving with Mom because she's
visiting her cousin for Actual Thanksgiving. We had all the fixins but
just a turkey bosom vice the whole bird.



That of course leaves me without weeks' worth of turkey leftovers so I'll be cooking my own 13-pounder on Thursday.



I will remake Ina Garten's sausage and herb stuffing recipe, which was superb:



http://tinyurl.com/y7gco6kz



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 04:07 PM (qJtVm)


Turkeys have bosoms? I thought they had breasts. Why was I not informed of this?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 06:29 PM (oPNmq)

349 Go to Walmart and buy "Hard Rolls".

They aren't really hard.

Posted by: JAS at November 19, 2017 06:30 PM (Oj1RP)

350 Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:15 PM

"Mangelwurzle" is also an entertaining word. But it doesn't quite make it in the song at the link, for example:

Do the mangelwurzle boogie?

I could say it over and over again, though.

Mangelwurzle
Mangelwurzle
Mangelwurzle

Posted by: KT at November 19, 2017 06:31 PM (BVQ+1)

351 I have a printed menu.
Plus a printed "Do-Aheads" list for making on Wednesday.
A printed schedule with times for prepping, into-oven, out-of-oven, etc.
And a printed list of which serving dishes for each.

I know all about OCD. And dementia. LOL

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:24 PM (HiDrR)


Thank you. I thought it was just me. I just remember the years my wife cooked and she'd suddenly say, ''Damn, I forgot the rolls'' or "Damn I forgot the potatoes" or "Damn I forgot the cranberries'.

We'd all say, "That's all right". Because polite.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 06:31 PM (ajiE5)

352
I hate turkey. Absolutely loathe the king of the yard birds

Posted by: sofa saver at November 19, 2017 04:18 PM (4u7kU)


All the more for me, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 06:33 PM (oPNmq)

353 195

Glennfiddich 15 or Balvenie Doublewood (Or Caribbean) are easily found and accessible single malts without rabid peat attack, good feet wetters.
Posted by: In Vino Veritits at November 19, 2017 05:24 PM (qul7b)

Jump right in with Caol Isla and never suffer from a peat attack again

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at November 19, 2017 06:33 PM (5pTgP)

354 We're down to just three for Thanksgiving this year, so we're trying a little experimental cooking: turkey breast with mole sauce (that's mo-LAY, not a sauce made of little burrowing mammals).

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 06:34 PM (v8NF5)

355 I bet a mole could make a nice, rich brown gravy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 06:35 PM (ycWCI)

356 So. Thanksgiving for the assembled clans. In addition to the Missus making sweet potato pie, and a traditional mincemeat pie (from my English Grandma), and a chocolate pecan pie, we will have my own Mazurek Krolewski from a Polish friend's recipe - the great confectioner's sugar, flour, ground almonds, apricot jam, lemon juice, butter and more butter cookies.

Burp.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 06:35 PM (TKmA0)

357 Speaking of polite, nobody has mentioned that those biscuits in the picture are next to burnt on the bottoms.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:35 PM (hjzvx)

358 Posted by: Trimegistus at November 19, 2017 06:34 PM

Gotta have fresh tortillas....

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2017 06:36 PM (oLTNb)

359 by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (HiDrR)

333 Raisins have no place in a cookie.
Raisins have no reason to exist.

* Everything you use raisins in would be better served with cherries.
* Those raisins could have been table grapes or wine.
* How many Trick or Treaters have been terrorized with mini boxes of wrinkled death?
Posted by: All Hail Eris


Even though I enjoy raisins in pumpkin loaf, this post is so accurate, it should be framed and hung in the kitchen.

Posted by: Shopgirl: #every man a Wildcat/go KSU at November 19, 2017 06:36 PM (x3yKT)

360 For Sunday breakfast for a while I was making rolls of bread dough in a covered skillet, letting them rise over night and getting up and cooking them for breakfast in the morning.

I will try the catshead biscuits instead, Flour,baking powder, shortening and buttermilk. That always goes well if I can avoid my urge to KNEAD all dough until it surrenders and becomes smooth. . .


Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:37 PM (2K6fY)

361 Peaches, I get a bag of those frozen Pillsbury biscuits and throw a couple in the toaster oven. Also found some good frozen cheese biscuits that are pretty good, but can't remember the brand name.

One should never be without biscuits.

Why there's biscuits and sausage gravy, bacon biscuits, biscuits and redeye gravy, jelly biscuits, buttered biscuits, biscuits flambe (for when you forget about them in the oven), cheese biscuits, cathead biscuits and Bisquick biscuits.

That's about it,

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 19, 2017 06:38 PM (tRaq7)

362 Anyone who doesn't have turkey on Thanksgiving is a Communist. Period.

You can have whatever you want on Christmas, Easter, July 4th, etc., but you have to have turkey on Thanksgiving. Plus cranberry sauce and dressing/stuffing. And pumpkin pie.

Do I like turkey? Eh. It's okay ---once a year.
Cranberry sauce? Not really.
Dressing? Yeah, that's good.
Pumpkin pie? Blech. Gag.
But you HAVE to have those things or you are an unAmerican scoundrel, hellbent on destroying tradition, the Constitution, and the Washington Monument.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 06:38 PM (0jtPF)

363 I usually avoid the food thread, because it's kind of depressing. Especially at Thanksgiving.

I haven't even been able to make a decent sandwich. With the exception of peanut butter & jelly or tuna salad, everything I've tried tastes awful.

However, I have some good news to report. Last week I bought a pre-made Italian hoagie at the supermarket. I ate it, and it was good.

It had a list of ingredients, and on Friday night I bought them individually and made my own Italian hoagie at home yesterday. It was quite passable, and I can add that to my limited repertoire for lunch.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 06:39 PM (sdi6R)

364 I use to make a sweet potato pie that had bourbon in it for T-day all the time...come to think of it, don't know why I haven't in several years.

It was a recipe from Jeff Smith, The Frugal Gourmet.


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I love his recipe for spotted dick.

Posted by: Kevin Spacey at November 19, 2017 06:39 PM (/qEW2)

365 I'd argue you can and should skip pumpkin pie for pecan pie instead.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:40 PM (I/iGu)

366 365 I'd argue you can and should skip pumpkin pie for pecan pie instead.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:40 PM (I/iGu)

We're having both, pumpkin and pecan and also apple.

I love apple pie.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:41 PM (MYss1)

367 Magelwurzel throwing, a game suitable for Peruvia

Mangelwurzel Throwing:

A
traditional Somerset game that requires skill, strength and cunning.
Mangold Hurling has a well developed set of rules. Players take it in
turns to stand in a pitching basket and hurl a Mangold / Mangelwurzel at
a Norman (A Norman being a pre-placed fixed position Mangold) The
player that gets his Mangold the closest is declared the winner... it's
what you get if you mix boules and strong cider. Mangold Hurling is
usually performed during October each year.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:41 PM (2K6fY)

368 Do I like turkey? Eh. It's okay ---once a year.
Cranberry sauce? Not really.
Dressing? Yeah, that's good.
Pumpkin pie? Blech. Gag.
But you HAVE to have those things or you are an unAmerican scoundrel, hellbent on destroying tradition, the Constitution, and the Washington Monument.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 06:38 PM (0jtPF)

--Turkey is awesome leftovers.

One of those foods that is as good cold as it is hot.

Leftover turkey sammiches? Yum.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:41 PM (GsAUU)

369 rickl, was that from the local Italian catering place in your town?

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:43 PM (hjzvx)

370 >>I'd argue you can and should skip pumpkin pie for pecan pie instead.

Yes. I don't like regular pumpkin pie, which is why I make the pumpkin ice cream pie.

One year when it was just our small family (3) + my cousin I made a pie that was pumpkin AND pecan pie (essentially a partially baked pumpkin pie, then add pecan pie filling and finish baking). I loved it, but everyone else just thought it was just OK.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 19, 2017 06:43 PM (W+vEI)

371 369 rickl, was that from the local Italian catering place in your town?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:43 PM (hjzvx)


No, it was from Giant supermarket.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 06:43 PM (sdi6R)

372 368---One of those foods that is as good cold as it is hot.

Leftover turkey sammiches? Yum.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:41 PM (GsAUU)
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Yep. I would say it's far better cold than hot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 06:44 PM (0jtPF)

373 I love apple pie.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:41 PM (MYss1)


Especially with the lattice crust on top. A skill I have yet to hone. I mean how the hell do you do that? I'm lifting and tucking more than a plastic surgeon and it still looks like hell.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 06:44 PM (ajiE5)

374 rickl, sorry didn't read close enough.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:45 PM (hjzvx)

375 Jump right in with Caol Isla and never suffer from a peat attack again

It's so dang hard to find though.

Posted by: no good deed at November 19, 2017 06:45 PM (eIQHF)

376 Count me among the communists then. I'd rather have Borscht with the staff of the nearest Russian consulate than Turkey. Anything but Turkey.

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at November 19, 2017 06:45 PM (H5knJ)

377 Good on ya, rickl! Baby steps.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 06:46 PM (4ZKcy)

378 Soundtrack for today:

https://youtu.be/y8bKi1ATAqc

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)

379 Skookumchuck, good to see you.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:47 PM (2K6fY)

380 If global warming causes my nation to go underwater, it would lead to brined Turkey.

Posted by: Recep Erdogan at November 19, 2017 06:47 PM (/qEW2)

381 Yep. I would say it's far better cold than hot.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 06:44 PM (0jtPF)

--I wish cold turkey was so easy for me.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:48 PM (GsAUU)

382 I am doing baby back ribs on Thursday. Ree Drumond's green bean casserole (from scratch). And probably Scalloped Spuds from scratch too.]]

Posted by: JAS at November 19, 2017 06:48 PM (Oj1RP)

383 Rickl,

My late husband did all the cooking and was good at it. I come from a line of lousy cooks. When I had to start cooking, a good friend told me that I'd be okay because I knew what good food tasted like. It's true. I think my grandmother was a lousy cook because she didn't know.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 19, 2017 06:48 PM (Lqy/e)

384 It had a list of ingredients, and on Friday night I bought them individually and made my own Italian hoagie at home yesterday. It was quite passable, and I can add that to my limited repertoire for lunch.
Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 06:39

That's one my faves to make at home. Used to get a multi-meat sandwich at Subway w/ Italian dressing. Got hoagie buns and started making our own at home. Mine is much better than Subways.

Yay for you to find something you can make that you like.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 06:48 PM (yJ1e6)

385 I can't recall the last time I had biscuits or rolls with Thanksgiving dinner; There are so many starchy things (Stuffing, potatoes) that I don't see the need for rolls, although the ones in the picture look good.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2017 04:23 PM

Exactly. The bread's in the stuffing. I do make cookies, though. I made some Cranberry Sage cookie dough logs this morning and froze them. On Thanksgiving morning I'll slice and bake those babies. Gotta have something to tide you over until the relish tray comes out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at November 19, 2017 06:49 PM (2NqXo)

386 365 I'd argue you can and should skip pumpkin pie for pecan pie instead.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:40 PM (I/iGu)
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No, you CAN'T, unless you're a leftwing terrorist.
You can have as many different pies as you like but one of them MUST be a pumpkin pie.
Even if no one will eat it.

WTF is wrong with you people?!!!!?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 06:49 PM (0jtPF)

387 Anyone telling me that I have to eat turkey is a fascist.

Posted by: JAS at November 19, 2017 06:49 PM (Oj1RP)

388 no turkey here either

we shall have MEAT

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 06:49 PM (hMwEB)

389
I've read various approaches to cooking turkey so that the breast
doesn't dry out. Cooking it breast down. Cooking it on its side for half
the time, then turning to the other side for the other half. Any
theories on this?

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 19, 2017 05:30 PM (LaT54)

My cousin's wife always used to cook the turkey in a paper bag, one of those big, thick brown kraft bags they used to sack groceries in at the supermarket. Sealed the pores of the bag, inside and out, IIRC, with butter. Place stuffed turkey in bag, stick it in the oven, and leave it the requisite time. Turkey so cooked was always moist and tasty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 06:49 PM (oPNmq)

390 --I wish cold turkey was so easy for me.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:48 PM (GsAUU)


I tried cold turkey once... once.

Went back to Val-u-rite an lived happily ever after.

Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at November 19, 2017 06:50 PM (5pTgP)

391 Kindltot - yeah, thanks, good to be back. Was responding to the fires in Northern California and working insane hours for weeks - and then the cleanup. Good to be home.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 06:50 PM (TKmA0)

392 I love apple pie.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:41

With a slice of cheese on top, right?

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 19, 2017 06:50 PM (Dhht7)

393 And mangolds are very large beets. Sort of football shaped so you might be able to throw one.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 19, 2017 06:50 PM (Lqy/e)

394 You can have whatever you want on Christmas, Easter, July 4th, etc., but
you have to have turkey on Thanksgiving. Plus cranberry sauce and
dressing/stuffing. And pumpkin pie.
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Can I skip the pumpkin pie if I have two kinds of stuffing?

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2017 06:51 PM (XQvuQ)

395 Our tradition is Brown & Serve Rolls. You know, the ones that taste like cardboard.
My mother always fixed them, and she was a lousy cook. I inherited that gene from her.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:51 PM (MYss1)

396 The closest I get to baking is using pizza dough Mrs. Franpsycho made for me.

Baking has a low ROI for me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 06:51 PM (EZebt)

397 One thing that really helped me learn cooking? Oven roasted chicken and vegetables. Over and over again.

You can experiment with different vegetable combinations, spices, seasonings, oven temperatures, cooking times, etc., without spending too much money either.

And you can practice making chicken stock, soups, breakfast hash, etc., with leftovers.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:52 PM (I/iGu)

398 no cheese, old dog in mo.
vanilla ice cream.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:52 PM (MYss1)

399 The deli in the grocery store does half turkey breasts so I can have turkey sandwiches on Friday ( with avocado) with out having had to cook one.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:54 PM (hjzvx)

400 In which case Skookumchuck, you want to see this from NASA. They are looking at aerosols as they interact with hurricanes and tradewinds from August through today, but they also show the Canadian, NW and Ca fires

https://youtu.be/h1eRp0EGOmE



Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 06:54 PM (2K6fY)

401 Can I skip the pumpkin pie if I have two kinds of stuffing?
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2017 06:51 PM 

Yes you can pass all the pumpkin pie my way, thank you

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 06:55 PM (aC6Sd)

402 Cold Turkey is what I called the woman that Turkish FM Davutoglu sent to my room in September of 2011. She really was frigid.

Posted by: Fat Drunk and not President at November 19, 2017 06:55 PM (5pTgP)

403 And of course there's my traditional Christmas Chocolate Chili. Without carrots. Or peppermint candies.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 06:55 PM (TKmA0)

404 >>>I come from a line of lousy cooks<<<

This is what hams are for. Never think that you can have too many side dishes.

Posted by: Fritz at November 19, 2017 06:55 PM (bD2SM)

405 Soylent Tofurky is turkey! It's turkey!

Posted by: Ingrid Newkirk at November 19, 2017 06:56 PM (/qEW2)

406 I get compliments every year on my turkey and I really don't do anything that special. Slather on the butter before I put it in the oven. Cover loosely with foil. Begin basting after about 2 hours and do so every half hour until bird is done. Last 30 minutes I remove the foil to let it brown. Cook at 350.. It always turns out moist and tender.

Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at November 19, 2017 06:57 PM (CNHr1)

407 @386: "No, you CAN'T, unless you're a leftwing terrorist. You can have as many different pies as you like but one of them MUST be a pumpkin pie.
Even if no one will eat it. WTF is wrong with you people?!!!!?"


I'm pretty sure Obama issued an executive order that allows Americans to fulfill their annual pumpkin quota by drinking a pumpkin spice latte in November. Or burning a pumpkin spice scented candle. I don't think pumpkin scented oil plugins count though. Or mochas.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:57 PM (I/iGu)

408 We're having Honey Baked Ham. There's only going to be 6 of us.

Posted by: ALH at November 19, 2017 06:57 PM (MYss1)

409 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 06:59 PM (ycWCI)

410 I'm pretty sure Obama issued an executive order that allows Americans to fulfill their annual pumpkin quota by drinking a pumpkin spice latte in November.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 19, 2017 06:57 PM (I/iGu)


Just get a pumpkin spice oil change and you're GTG.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 06:59 PM (y87Qq)

411 399 The deli in the grocery store does half turkey breasts so I can have turkey sandwiches on Friday ( with avocado) with out having had to cook one.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:54 PM (hjzvx)


I'll have to look in the supermarket in the next couple of days to see if they have any prepared turkey items. I don't know if the meals I ordered and should receive on Tuesday have any turkey dinners.

If not, then I'll buy my traditional Swanson's Hungry Man turkey dinner with all the trimmings.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 06:59 PM (sdi6R)

412 There are only five of us but still doing turkey. Grandson is 16 SIL is 6'4 and it will probably be dad's last. That he may remember anyway.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 07:00 PM (4ZKcy)

413 Kindltot, 400 - URL doesn't work for me.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:01 PM (TKmA0)

414 Chocolate gravy on my grandmother's homemade biscuits is one of my favorite childhood memories.

CBD: If you can find something similar (or even this brand) we've got biscuit mixes in the flour section here in NC. This one has bits of shortening already cut in:

http://www.renwoodmills.com/southern-biscuit/

Very decent biscuits and very quick. Moisten, cut, bake.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 19, 2017 07:01 PM (8Zprg)

415 394
Can I skip the pumpkin pie if I have two kinds of stuffing?
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2017 06:51 PM (XQvuQ)
----------------------------
NO!!!!
You have to have pumpkin pie!!!
You yourself don't have to eat any.
But you have to have it.

Sheesh. Why is it that I, a first-generation immigrant, have to explain these things to natives?

Where does it stop?
Someone up-thread was talking about having sushi for Thanksgiving. Sushi!
Norman Rockwell is rolling over in his grave, I tell you.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:01 PM (0jtPF)

416 Only 3 of us this year. Talked about going out to eat, but then what would eat the rest of the weekend? No, leftover turkey on $ rolls with mayo? No, turkey pie? We decided to cook and not go out.

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (Dhht7)

417 390 --I wish cold turkey was so easy for me.
Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 06:48 PM (GsAUU)


I tried cold turkey once... once.

Went back to Val-u-rite an lived happily ever after.
Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at November 19, 2017 06:50 PM (5pTgP)

--You're feelin' me.

I grew up just a few miles from *the* Smithfield, so I do love ham. Do I need to say that ham is also better cold than hot?

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (GsAUU)

418 Norman Rockwell is rolling over in his grave, I tell you.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at November 19, 2017 07:01 PM (0jtPF)


Good for him. Means he doesn't have to pretend to like pumpkin pie OR sweet potatoes.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (y87Qq)

419 Raisins have no reason to exist.



* Everything you use raisins in would be better served with cherries.

* Those raisins could have been table grapes or wine.

* How many Trick or Treaters have been terrorized with mini boxes of wrinkled death?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 06:20 PM (qJtVm)

Raisins are absolutely awesome for baiting mousetraps. they are tough enough and stringy enough that the trap always fires when Mr. Mouse tries to tug it free of the trigger. And economical, too, since you can getmultiple mice on one raisin. One could say that mouse traps are their raisin d'etre. (not that I would make silly puns, or anything)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (oPNmq)

420 LOL, Margarita.

Posted by: rickl at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (sdi6R)

421 Margarita - Que tal?

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (TKmA0)

422 Hmmm. So I guess turducken's not a thing anymore.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (/qEW2)

423
Good for him. Means he doesn't have to pretend to like pumpkin pie OR sweet potatoes.
Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 07:03 PM (y87Qq)

--I don't like sweet potatoes, either.

AFAIK, I still don't have to surrender my Southerner Card.

Posted by: logprof at November 19, 2017 07:05 PM (GsAUU)

424 422, Steve and Cold Bear - Still on sale at Cabela's.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:06 PM (TKmA0)

425 Yay! Food thread!

And I've missed all of it.

*sad trombone*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2017 07:06 PM (bQvjO)

426 422 Hmmm. So I guess turducken's not a thing anymore.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 07:04 PM (/qEW2)
---
Is it already Cherpumple Season?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4yWTLIPaE

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (qJtVm)

427 Then there is also my stone cold killer - Chatham Artillery Punch. All the recipes are different. The objective is lethality, as opposed to uniformity.

Another holiday favorite at Castel Skookumchuk is the "Stone Fence" an early colonial cocktail. This is hard cider and rum. Knocks you flat on your can. This supposedly was imbibed by Ethan Allen and his boys before they attacked Ft. Ticonderoga. I've tried it - it's very good - but I was bereft of martial ardor after drinking two or three.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:10 PM (TKmA0)

428 Speaking of polite, nobody has mentioned that those biscuits in the picture are next to burnt on the bottoms.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2017 06:35 PM
~~~~~

I wasn't going to say anything....

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 07:11 PM (HiDrR)

429 Even if no one will eat it.



WTF is wrong with you people?!!!!?


The pumpkin spice/pie criticallity ratio is very carefully set at the market. You start leaving pies on the shelf and KABOOM.

Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2017 07:13 PM (FhXTo)

430 Hunted and made my own Thanksgiving turducken one year a decade or so ago. Had to trade a duck for the chicken from a neighbor, but still.

PITA, but the family loved it and loved telling the story.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - carried over to a good chunk of the Russian population via Mongol rape at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (8Zprg)

431 Skookumchuck this is tiny URL

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc53xh4u

Or try "NASA Goddard 2017 Hurricanes and Aerosols Simulation"

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 07:15 PM (2K6fY)

432 I get compliments every year on my turkey and I really don't do anything that special. Slather on the butter before I put it in the oven. Cover loosely with foil. Begin basting after about 2 hours and do so every half hour until bird is done. Last 30 minutes I remove the foil to let it brown. Cook at 350.. It always turns out moist and tender.

Posted by: Jewells45can handle your jewels at November 19, 2017 06:57 PM (CNHr1)

My mom always did those giant Butterballs, and cooked them overnight. I never paid attention to the prep because I was drinking with Daddy.

Waking up in the morning to the smell of turkey throughout the house was awesome.

Posted by: Atlantic Coast at November 19, 2017 07:20 PM (cu8/f)

433 I see no nood alert,

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 07:25 PM (aC6Sd)

434 It's a Lena Dunham thread. Will ignore.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 07:27 PM (qJtVm)

435 OMG, Jules spoiled me the last 2 days. Swedish meatballs last night. I ate almost all the leftovers before bed.

Tonight was pot roast. Instead of adding onion soup mix, which sometimes gives heartburn, she sauted onions in beef bullion. Then added fresh mushrooms she sautéed the Julia Child way. Excellent! And the mushrooms really made a difference, very mushroomy tasting.

Posted by: Farmer - 2017 GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 07:28 PM (yJ1e6)

436 Kindltot, 431. Wow. Thanks - very interesting stuff.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 19, 2017 07:30 PM (TKmA0)

437 Thanks for all the scotch suggestions and info. Have saved all and will take with me when I visit the liquor store tomorrow.


Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 08:36 PM (jm1YL)

438 "Raisins have no reason to exist. "

That statement saddens me to the core. I love raisins, especially white raisins. Trader Joe's sells a packet of mixed jumbo raisins that are to die for.

Posted by: Tuna at November 19, 2017 08:39 PM (jm1YL)

439 Central Business District, you are an evil person. That is all.

Posted by: JC at November 19, 2017 09:00 PM (ZLlh9)

440 Regarding burns - I have found that 100% of the time that I have burned myself, I have been in a hurry. Steam burns while pouring water out of a pot of potatoes or spaghetti, grabbing pans, even ironing, have all been when when I think I just don't have time to stop to put ice on a bad burn.
For the record, I have Thanksgiving dinner with friends. I bring rolls that I baked that morning (I love my bread machine!) and blueberry pie. I may also bring a potato casserole. They do all the heard stuff.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 feet CO at November 19, 2017 10:11 PM (pOIpG)

441 202Sofa saver: Yantis TX on a farm.: sweet potatoes? I'm in Scroggins, Tx, south of Mt Vernon. Not amounting to much here, either.

Posted by: Annieb at November 19, 2017 10:37 PM (xjl51)

Weekend Gun Thread

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(The Puckle Gun)

As we all know the semi-automatic riffle has been at the center of the Left's howl for "gun control". Second amendment proponents have been repeatedly told the Founding Fathers didn't have anything more than a musket.

Not so fast Left Winger. 1718 saw the invention of the Puckle Gun.

A ‘machine gun’ from the 1700s? The Puckle Gun puts a lie to the anti-Second Amendment narrative that says it was written with only single shot musket in mind.
Ian from Forgotten Weapons is at the Institute of Military Technology, a fascinating museum located in Titusville, Florida. Today he’s examining a mostly original early 1700s Puckle Gun.

The Puckle Gun was patented by London lawyer, inventor and author James Puckle in 1718. It was officially titled the Defence Gun and was a flintlock weapon with a revolver-like rotating cylinder of six to eleven shots.

h/t Tim in Illinois


We'll go back to single shot flintlocks when the MSM go back to the town cryer system, etc. etc. etc.

*****

As a father of three daughters, I understand the next story, I don't condone the Father's behaviour, But, I do understand the story.

If I let your underage child into my tavern and someone is injured or killed because of this negligence I am going to be sued. If you're a government worker and don't put a
scumbag on the "NO GUNS" List and someone is hurt and/or killed what happens? Why the same government you work for just excuses your negligence and creates yet another law.

A bill introduced in the House last week aims to expand background check to cover firearm sales at gun shows, over the Internet or in classified ads.

The measure, H.R.4240, has 39 lawmakers supporting the move, including two Republicans. U.S. Rep. Mike Thompson, D-Calf., said he aims to exclude criminals from gun purchases by mandating more checks and improving the current system.


We don't need any more laws. The government needs to do their GodDamn job.

She revealed that 38 states report fewer than 80 percent of felony convictions to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which means there are seven million felony convictions that are unreported.

"This is why this law needs to be enforced. But politicians have to call for those records to be submitted," Loesch said.

She also noted that Kelley reportedly lied on Federal Form 4473, which prospective gun buyers must fill out. He reportedly checked a box indicating he had not been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence.

"In 2010, you had 80,000 prohibited possessors that tried to purchase a firearm through their 4473. That's an actionable offense. And yet, guess how many of those were prosecuted? 44," Loesch said.

"This has to change and politicians have to call for it, especially the ones calling for gun control today."


In the you can't fix fucking stupid department.

Stephanie Ruhle, anchor on MSNBC Live, is such a person.

According to Mediaite, the following is an actual statement made by Ms. Rule on live television:


Why do you need any assault rifles? An assault rifle is different than a gun. A hunting enthusiast and one who needs an assault rifle, those are two different things.


What's going on in your world with firearms? Here in WI the White-Tail Deer Gun season is next weekend. The trusty old .30-06 is sighted in and ready. Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder what I should get?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 12:16 PM




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1 First shot is mine.Who did I hit?

Posted by: saf at November 19, 2017 12:16 PM (cS/ge)

2 2

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 12:18 PM (/qEW2)

3 I've had my eye on one of those new Ruger Precision rifles and now they are available in 6.5 Creedmoor. Me want.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 19, 2017 12:19 PM (schB/)

4 Also, during the Revolutionary War, a lot of artillery was also privately owned. That continued through the Civil War, IIRC.

Posted by: RS at November 19, 2017 12:20 PM (CNQqJ)

5 " Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder what I should get?"

plasma rifle....rail gun

Posted by: BignJames at November 19, 2017 12:21 PM (GiOiK)

6 it is a documented fact that gun control laws do not work. That last shooter was not supposed to be able to buy a gun yet his offense were never reported to the FBI database. In fact, I saw a number that said 90% of them were not reported.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:22 PM (mpXpK)

7 It was far more effective than the initial prototype, the Pickle Gun.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 12:23 PM (NWiLs)

8 What's going on in your world with firearms?


They were all lost in a boating accident.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:23 PM (mpXpK)

9 the real weapons today are computers ... we must have computer device control now! Or we could just have FaceBook, Google, et al control access and searches.

But when the slaughterbots come ... it may not matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsNKA7idF00
"fun part" starts at about 5:00 ... Hillary would have loved these for the deplorables.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2017 12:24 PM (/aIFg)

10 BTW, you could also own cannons if you wanted including ships with cannons at the time of the 2nd Amendment with no criminal background check.

Most firearms laws at that time related to militia acts where you were required to possess military grade firearms, powder, and musket balls. Some townships regulated firearms primarily on discharging and concealed carry firearms but I have not found much if at all regulation of firearms at the Framing. Most of the regulations, especially in Southern states, came in concert with the increasingly onerous slave codes.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2017 12:24 PM (s8rl2)

11 What's going on in your world with firearms? Here in WI the White-Tail
Deer Gun season is next weekend. The trusty old .30-06 is sighted in and
ready. Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder
what I should get?



Can you use a 30-06 in WI?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:25 PM (mpXpK)

12 Dear Santa,
I've been a very very good boy this year and would like a new Glock 19 Gen V with Trijicon's for Christmas.

Thanks Santa

PS: A new Galco IWB holster would be nice too.
PPS:Mrs. Claus is hot



Posted by: Under Fire at November 19, 2017 12:26 PM (r9UYA)

13 Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder what I should get?

----

Get a silenced muzzle loader in caliber "Thing That Goes Up." The Thing goes spinning off downrange and has devastating terminal effect, as well as making a cool "woop-woop-woop" noise in flight.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (mH+yd)

14 FWIW, even people caught by the instant background check as lying about disqualifiers are seldom if ever prosecuted.

"The report shows that, between 2008 and 2015, the FBI denied 556,496 gun purchases following background checks. During that time period, the report shows that only 254 false statements were even considered for prosecution, amounting to a 0.04 percent prosecution rate." From daily caller article, "Prosecutions for Lying on Gun Background Checks Fall to New Low" published in 2016.

No link as pixy doesnt like it.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (s8rl2)

15 From Drudge:

Man arrested in wife's death says gun accidentally discharged during sex act

I guess she wdnt out with a bang.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Nwg0u)

16 That Puckle Gun looks cool!

Heard nothing but great things about that Ruger Precision rifle.......affordable too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (nUkMr)

17 I've had my eye on one of those new Ruger Precision rifles and now they are available in 6.5 Creedmoor. Me want.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 19, 2017 12:19 PM (schB/)


I'm supposed to go shooting with a friend who bought a Thompson Arms bolt rife in 6.5 Creedmore, I will report when I get to shoot it.
It is supposed to be accurate like a .308 with far less recoil.

I am not sure I am a fan of the 6.5, but I have been told bullet design has improved since WWI. (Real rifle bullets are .458 caliber and weigh 405 grains, after all)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (2K6fY)

18
I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

19 First shot is mine.Who did I hit?

Posted by: saf at November 19, 2017 12:16 PM (cS/ge)


You couldn't hit an elephant at that dist....

Posted by: General John Sedgwick at November 19, 2017 12:28 PM (T71PA)

20 I'm seeing a lot of alternative media chatter saying that a USMC MEU landed at Langley VA.

example: https://is.gd/aq9Ewl

WTF?

Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands at November 19, 2017 12:28 PM (z2W2E)

21 Just got the ruger precision rifle, not in 308. Know 6.5 is supposed to be superior but I couldn't stand thought of having to stock up on another caliber of ammo. Haven't shot it yet.

Posted by: SteveOReno at November 19, 2017 12:28 PM (G+HiC)

22 I would get the Tikka T3x in 6.5 Creedmoor with a Vortex Viper PST Gen II 2-10x32 FFP Riflescope.
The Tikka costs about the same as a Remington 700, bit MUCH better quality and trigger.
All together you would be looking at two grand.
You could always get a red rider B.B. gun with a compass in the stock...

Posted by: JimmyGee at November 19, 2017 12:28 PM (ld/f6)

23 Can you use a 30-06 in WI?


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:25 PM (mpXpK)I'm gonna guess it's like Minnesota. Farm feilds no, woods yes.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 12:29 PM (VDQek)

24 4 Also, during the Revolutionary War, a lot of artillery was also privately owned. That continued through the Civil War, IIRC.
Posted by: RS at November 19, 2017 12:20 PM (CNQqJ)

----

there are privately owned operable cannons today

http://www.hernandosportsmansclub .com/cannon.htm

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:29 PM (vChNs)

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at November 19, 2017 12:30 PM (T71PA)

26 Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder what I should get?



A new wife.

Posted by: daninmichigan at November 19, 2017 12:30 PM (M7U30)

27 My Barber told me that his family back in WI bear hunt these days. Things in WI have changed since the last time I was up that was.

Posted by: Big V at November 19, 2017 12:30 PM (MVE/7)

28 20 I'm seeing a lot of alternative media chatter saying that a USMC MEU landed at Langley VA.

example: https://is.gd/aq9Ewl

WTF?


Wow!

Posted by: Under Fire at November 19, 2017 12:31 PM (r9UYA)

29 Mr. Puckle advertised that his gun could fire round bullets against Christians, and square bullets against Turks.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 12:31 PM (1ouh3)

30 23 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017
12:25 PM (mpXpK)I'm gonna guess it's like Minnesota. Farm feilds no,
woods yes.


Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 12:29 PM (VDQek)

I had heard that high caliber rifles were prohibited due to dense population. And that you had to use shotguns or bows.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

31 15 From Drudge:

Man arrested in wife's death says gun accidentally discharged during sex act

I guess she wdnt out with a bang.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Nwg0u)

----

I'm gonna take you down - down, down, down
So don't you fool around
I'm gonna pull it, pull it, pull the trigger

Shoot to thrill, play to kill
Too many women with too many pills
Shoot to thrill, play to kill
I got my gun at the ready, gonna fire at will
Yeah

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:32 PM (vChNs)

32
>Man arrested in wife's death says gun accidentally discharged during sex act


Ain't never gonna do it without your fez on.

Posted by: Love Gun at November 19, 2017 12:32 PM (JoQAu)

33 "What's going on in your world with firearms?"

Shipping my G20 slide off tomorrow to be milled for a Trijicon RMR. It already has a KKM precision barrel and Surefire light, so when it's done it'll be like a mega- Roland Special, though no compensator. With an extended capacity mag, I prefer to think of it as a 10mm death ray.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at November 19, 2017 12:33 PM (3JQ/p)

34 308 vs 6.5 Creedmore. I know most of the arguments, but not convinced about 6.5. Would like to know the Horde's thoughts on this. Haven't shot 6.5 yet.

Posted by: SteveOReno at November 19, 2017 12:35 PM (G+HiC)

35 A canon attached to a riding mower--now that would be something for the neighbors to see.

Posted by: fly gal at November 19, 2017 12:36 PM (Kj7KZ)

36 I'm pickling about 800 rounds of ammo.
well, putting it in those vacuum freezer bag things.
Pretty cheap and easy, and should keep moisture from migrating into the boxes over the years before the apocalypse.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2017 12:37 PM (/aIFg)

37 I had heard that high caliber rifles were prohibited due to dense population. And that you had to use shotguns or bows.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

We have several zones in Minnesota. Flat farmland is shotgun only. Up north in the woods you can use rifles.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 12:37 PM (VDQek)

38 Been a while since I saw/commented on a gun thread. Let's see, what have I got since then?

A Browning BDA .380, because it's so darn pretty. Wood grips and blue steel.

Hungarian Hi-Power copy. Ditto.

A Beretta 85F (probably Italian police surplus), because it's so darn pretty. And I'm a Beretta whore. Also have an M9 and a 1934.

Ruger Service Six, stainless, .357. Been on the lookout for years.

M1 Carbine style stock for my 10/22, along with appropriate aftermarket front and rear sights (can't recall the brand). Darn if the little bugger doesn't look an M1 from 15 feet away, especially with the sling and oiler.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 12:38 PM (1ouh3)

39 A canon attached to a riding mower--now that would be something for the neighbors to see.

-
Rand Paul should have had one.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 12:39 PM (Nwg0u)

40 >>>>She also noted that Kelley reportedly lied on Federal Form 4473, which
prospective gun buyers must fill out. He reportedly checked a box
indicating he had not been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime
of domestic violence.
.
.
.And the Air Force is on the hook for 29 wrongful death Civil Suits. I read where they are expecting to pay out over $1 Billion to settle all of the lawsuits coming up.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 12:40 PM (+Dllb)

41 What's new for me?

I found a great trove of pre-war Sauer .32's and beggared myself buying about half of an extensive collection.

A dozen rare models... stuff I never thought I would find. WWI Imperial German Army marked, 1913 Austrian Police, Munich Police marked (a 6.35mm), an insanely rare Royal Dutch Navy, an English export version with the "Sauer and Sons" slide legend, a Bavarian Police Berhorden model with both matching serial mags and matching serial holster, a Prussian Eagle marked WWI issue, 2 1913's with 3-digit serials. (3) 1929 Amsterdam Police.... and others. All for prices that seemed like mistakes (and were).

Completed a section of the pre-war .32 collection in One. Swell. Foop.

I'll be eating lawn clippings and windfall fruit for a year to pay it off.

Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 12:40 PM (y6AEz)

42 40 .And the Air Force is on the hook for 29 wrongful
death Civil Suits. I read where they are expecting to pay out over $1
Billion to settle all of the lawsuits coming up.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 12:40 PM (+Dllb)

The AF is not paying out shit, the tax payers are.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:40 PM (mpXpK)

43 Whatever rifle you buy I hope it isn't black, with a folding stock and one of those up-thingees. Those sorts of rifles are evil and really should be banned, as we all know.

Posted by: Sally Kohn at November 19, 2017 12:41 PM (ylUqT)

44 For once, I have something to report on a gun thread. #4 kidlet told me yesterday that the gun range and shop in Peoria closed. She doesn't know why, but she said they were pretty loose on their ladies nights. She enjoyed those tremendously and was getting good. Cost up here in NoIll is prohibitive, so Peoria folks, let us know what happened.

Posted by: mustbequantum at November 19, 2017 12:43 PM (MIKMs)

45 >>>Ruger Service Six, stainless, .357. Been on the lookout for years.
.
.
.I just sold mine. $350.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 12:43 PM (+Dllb)

46 @42 The AF is not paying out shit, the tax payers are.
---------------------

Sadly.

Congress needs to say something along the lines of, "For every X dollars in lawsuit payouts your department has, you lose Y amount in your next budget." That's about the only thing that would get their attention.

(And before someone suggests that Y=X, it'd be hard enough getting Congress to make them liable for just part of the suit, let alone all of it).

Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (cSguU)

47 >>> .And the Air Force is on the hook for 29 wrongful

death Civil Suits. I read where they are expecting to pay out over $1

Billion to settle all of the lawsuits coming up.




Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 12:40 PM (+Dllb)

The AF is not paying out shit, the tax payers are.
.
.
.They are sending you a bill Vic.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (+Dllb)

48 >>Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder
what I should get?


Model 70 ( one of the models with the Claw Extractor).

...preferably a pre 64.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2017 12:46 PM (TD/W3)

49 I tried the Al Franken attachment to my muzzleloader, but it just made it louder. Any suggestions?

Posted by: mindful webworker's peacekeepers at November 19, 2017 12:48 PM (/IMJl)

50 Can someone recommend a good feral hog hunt. That is my intended b-day and xmas gift to my dad. Ideally location will not be east of OK so we could drive there and back comfortably. Could go from camp in nearby campground and hunt only to an inclusive package if the package was not too $$ high end.

Thanks in advance. I have to do some outside stuff but will check back later.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at November 19, 2017 12:48 PM (84F5k)

51 Just finished my first foray into the AR10 platform. A PSA 18" upper on a PSA lower. Every bit as accurate as my other .308's but seems a little lighter on the recoil. Thought about the 6.5 Creedmore but didn't want to add a new and expensive round to the mix.

Posted by: Agitator at November 19, 2017 12:50 PM (o44PO)

52 When the Bill of Rights was written, the musket WAS a military style weapon.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 19, 2017 12:51 PM (gC2IV)

53 >>>>
Can someone recommend a good feral hog hunt. That is my intended b-day
and xmas gift to my dad. Ideally location will not be east of OK so we
could drive there and back comfortably. Could go from camp in nearby
campground and hunt only to an inclusive package if the package was not
too $$ high end.



Thanks in advance. I have to do some outside stuff but will check back later.
.
.
.You can come here to NE Texas and pick up the road kill in the morning from people hitting them the night before.

The most I have seen hit at one time was 6. Two nice big ones and 4 little porkers smashed all over Texas 121 down past Trenton heading to Dallas.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 12:51 PM (+Dllb)

54 Got a new Sig Sauer MK25 in 9mm. Hoping to shoot it Tuesday night at our gun club. I still prefer DA pistols.

Posted by: SteveOReno at November 19, 2017 12:58 PM (G+HiC)

55 39 A canon attached to a riding mower--now that would be something for the neighbors to see.

---

lawn rage?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 12:59 PM (vChNs)

56 The Puckle Gun was succeeded quickly by the "Puck Gun" also known as the "Gordie Howe."

Posted by: Publius Redux at November 19, 2017 01:00 PM (0YSzp)

57 Ruger Service Six, stainless, .357. Been on the lookout for years.
.
.
.I just sold mine. $350.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman


Could kick a buddy's ass. He let a Ruger Speedsix go for $200 AFTER I told him I'd give him $300 cash on the spot it he ever needed to pawn it.

Yeah. I no longer speak to him. Going on 25 years now.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:00 PM (P0DGT)

58 50 caliber muzzle loader pickle guns with silencers should be banned!!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 01:01 PM (IqV8l)

59 New guns? Buying two Remington 870 Express shotguns Wednesday. 12 gauge & 20 gauge from Bass Pro.

Special sale - $260 each after rebate.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:02 PM (P0DGT)

60 Crap. Busy reloading bullets and almost missed the gun thread!

Posted by: Carpe Manana at November 19, 2017 01:03 PM (WYkii)

61 Wonder what I should get?

So, time to post this link again:

http://tinyurl.com/ycfgzlun

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 01:04 PM (y3sT9)

62 Puckle sounds like it would be a good name for a sour candy.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 01:05 PM (/qEW2)

63 OT. Just saw a picture of Moore's opponent at Weasel Zippers. I'd be surprised if he didn't prove the adage that whatever progs are accusing conservatives of they are actually doing themselves.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:06 PM (rp9xB)

64 I'm seeing a lot of alternative media chatter saying that a USMC MEU landed at Langley VA.

example: https://is.gd/aq9Ewl

WTF?
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands



For what?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:06 PM (P0DGT)

65 Only thing I did this week was make another lead ingot of lead I collected over the summer. Has to be over 5 pounds worth. One thing I do is collect tire weights I find on road while bike riding, but many are not lead anymore.
F'in EPA

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 01:07 PM (aC6Sd)

66 I'm really no weapons person, but since I peeked in...

It seems to me that you'd want to have some bracing back feet on that lawnmower (like on ladder trucks or cherry pickers), depending on the cannon size.

Either than, or let the recoil flip the mower over backward so the video can go on YouTube.

(Ponders 4-wheeler mounted machine guns roving around out here on the prairie after shtf....)

Posted by: mindful webworker - jack of all trades, jill of none at November 19, 2017 01:07 PM (/IMJl)

67 A Springfield Armory Saint gives the libtards the vapors, and now it is available in a Pistol form! I myself am looking at a Daniels Defense DDM5 because it is big, black, and scary looking, and chambered in.308 has some punch. As a side note it gives the libtards the vapors big time.

Don't forget that today is national buy some ammo day!

Posted by: StephanA at November 19, 2017 01:08 PM (ffv4o)

68 Could kick a buddy's ass. He let a Ruger Speedsix go for $200 AFTER I told him I'd give him $300 cash on the spot it he ever needed to pawn it.

Yeah. I no longer speak to him. Going on 25 years now.
Posted by: rickb223
-----------

Handling the sale of some items for the widow of a friend, I sold his High Standard Model B for $100, including holster. I have asked myself many times why I did not buy it myself. The answer is always, I was only acting as the agent, and wanted everything on the strict up and up. Still, I kick myself for not buying it myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 01:09 PM (y3sT9)

69 " Although Mrs. MH has given her blessings on a new riffle. Wonder what I should get?"


AR platform with one of these modifications.


https://tinyurl.com/ydbvo25h

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at November 19, 2017 01:10 PM (EK6pT)

70 If you were on the book thread I was having log in issues so called Amazon customer service and talked to a nice man near Cape Town who knew what black powder was used for. Don't know if he was from South Africa.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 01:10 PM (aC6Sd)

71 For what?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:06 PM (P0DGT)


The alternative mission for MEUs is to deliver Domino's Pizzas and unplug toilets

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 01:11 PM (2K6fY)

72 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 01:04 PM (y3sT9)

Good to see you back. With you and Muldoon both returned a serious gap in the Horde has been filled.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:11 PM (rp9xB)

73 46 @42 The AF is not paying out shit, the tax payers are.
---------------------

Sadly.

Congress needs to say something along the lines of, "For every X dollars in lawsuit payouts your department has, you lose Y amount in your next budget." That's about the only thing that would get their attention.

(And before someone suggests that Y=X, it'd be hard enough getting Congress to make them liable for just part of the suit, let alone all of it).
Posted by: junior at November 19, 2017 12:45 PM (cSguU)







Actually, I want to see everyone in his chain of command at that time, and everyone in the SJA for his duty station at that time rounded up. Up to and including the AF Chief of Staff. Round 'em up and give every last one of them his or her walking papers. Immediately.

At this point, I don't care if they're good troops or not. Probably, most of them are. But a little pour encourager les autres will go a long way towards tightening up procedures in the future.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (eXA4G)

74 Retropox at #41 - if my erection last more than four hours, I'm sending you the doctor's bill.

Congratulations. Nice haul.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (1ouh3)

75 Even if this example didn't exist, there were semiautomatic weapons in America, as well as Gatling guns, in the 19th century, and no one suggested that this negated the 2nd amendment.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (/qEW2)

76 66. Rockets. Or recoilless rifles, ftw.

And if we're gonna go mounting recoilless rifles, well, this is Trump's America - do it bigly:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (fA1SL)

77
For what?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:06 PM (P0DGT)


To round up Hillary's minions and escort them to jail. All the sealed indictments are about ready to drop tomorrow.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (ajiE5)

78 So far 2017 was a good year for me.

Rebedded my 1917 SMLE and got it to the range for its 100th Anniversary. Shot great!

New Baretta CX Storm Carbine from Classic Arms that apparently was a failed Russian or Ukrainian civilian order. Basically a Russian manual and a slightly longer barrel. Having fun with it as a range toy to go with...

My Itlaian police trade in Baretta 93S. Got that from Classic Arms in like new condition. A sweet set of appropriate S grips (mag release at bottom of grip) and some S compatible magazines.

My C93 (Century Arms HK93 rebuild). Century seems to be getting better. This gun was clean and runs fine though magazines are an issue (finding used/$ and aftermarket quality)

Nice Savage Rascal for my 9 year old daughter's first gun.

Looking to get my 11 year old son a 10/22 for Christmas as his second gun. He's outgrown the old H&R Sahara single shot blow back (my first gun at 7) I passed along to him at 7.

Looking to get my stepfather a good 22 so he can have fun on the plinking range with the grand kids.

Found out there is a "cheaper" alternative to the Pendleton safes -- the Revolution sub brand -- that uses the same rotating internal rack technology. $4000 which is a lot but about half the price of the Pendleton main brand.

2018... Maybe look at reloading.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (USf3s)

79 I tried the Al Franken attachment to my muzzleloader, but it just made it louder. Any suggestions?
Posted by: mindful webworker's peacekeepers
-----------

Clamp one hand over the muzzle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 01:13 PM (y3sT9)

80 Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (ajiE5)

Don't tease.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:13 PM (rp9xB)

81 (Ponders 4-wheeler mounted machine guns roving around out here on the prairie after shtf....)

Posted by: mindful webworker - jack of all trades, jill of none at November 19, 2017 01:07 PM (/IMJl)


Aussies can be odd about these sorts of things things too


https://youtu.be/JH_f-jI4Np0

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 01:14 PM (2K6fY)

82 The Bill of Rights is not only not a Bill of Needs, it is also not a Bill of Safety.
Those who rest their laurels on "gun control doesn't work" are accepting a premise that will bite us all in the ass.
If you dry up the supply of weapons and (especially, God forbid) ammo, you are going to seriously restrict the secondary markets and, while never a "complete" success, such measures might indeed bring down some "gun deaths" (over a long time). Of course, "knife deaths" would probably increase too but let's not quibble.

But the hairs on the back of my neck go up every time a well meaning 2A supporter says "gun control doesn't work."

It is a fundamental right of a free person, essential to individual liberty and the bulwark against tyranny. That ought to be enough.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 19, 2017 01:14 PM (W/SyC)

83 LOL Russell Simmons takes a turn in the Barrel, Hollywood is such a cesspool, He also told Terry Crews to the guy a pass and ask that he be reinstated.

What a piece of Garbage.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 19, 2017 01:15 PM (dKiJG)

84 And if we're gonna go mounting recoilless rifles, well, this is Trump's America - do it bigly:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
------------

Should have named it Ol' Betsy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 01:16 PM (y3sT9)

85 (Ponders 4-wheeler mounted machine guns roving around out here on the prairie after shtf....)

Posted by: mindful webworker



Bing "mini chain gun".

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:16 PM (P0DGT)

86
Taking away gun rights for a misdemeanor is ridiculous. Some say yeah but its domestic violence, but this seems like a slippery slope to minor theft, etc. Notwithstanding that prosecutors try to attach the DV to any verbal altercation. In CO here, if the police are called for a domestic situation, one person must be arrested as a matter of law.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2017 01:18 PM (r+sAi)

87 Taro: it was an epic day.
An. Epic. Day.

...and thanks.

Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 01:18 PM (y6AEz)

88 I tried the Al Franken attachment to my muzzleloader, but it just made it louder. Any suggestions?

Posted by: mindful webworker's peacekeepers

Well it's only good for silencing jokes.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 01:20 PM (VDQek)

89 Never heard of any repeating firearms used in the American Revolutionary war through the Napoleonic era

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 01:21 PM (aC6Sd)

90 OT

Huffington Post recently changed its entire structure, relegating "columnists" and "contributors" to orphaned-article zero-traffic purgatory and revamping their front page to be nothing but 100% leftist fake-news, with no more links to sub-sections about various aspects of urban culture as they used to have (Food/Fashion/Entertainment/etc.).

Not sure why they did this -- I think they were tired of having to defend whatever every columnist wrote as being "endorsed" or "said by" the Huffington Post. So now, all their columnists can still write whatever they want, but such articles can no longer be accessed from the HuffPo main page, nor are there any more dedicated subsections about any theme which might link to these columns or articles.

It's all very strange, and I think spells the end of the Huffington Post -- now known officially as "HuffPost" -- as a site anyone pays the slightest attention to.

Anyway, all of this is background to my point, which is this:

With some effort, one can still view the various articles hosted on Huffpost, grouped according to "tags" instead of in officially edited sections -- and my God, it is ALL the worst, most idiotic insulting garbage, beyond what you can imagine.

These are the latest five headlines at Huffpost with the tag "food":

These Golden Snitch-Topped Butterbeer Donuts Are What Potterhead Dreams Are Made Of

Ecuador's School Food Is Bad For Kids -- And The Environment

This Is An Adult, Boozy-Flavored Version Of The Ring Pop And It's Actually So Pretty

Gulf Crisis Broadens Definitions Of Food Security

Someone Made A Candy Corn Pizza And Twitter Can't Handle It

It's a bizarre, nauseating, horrifying combination of juvenile social-media-saturated clickbait garbage married to hectoring communist brainwash claptrap.

Sooooooo glad they destroyed their own "platform." It was, and remains, unmitigated swill.

Posted by: zombie at November 19, 2017 01:23 PM (42M22)

91 Anyone see the idiot gun grabber from NY on Tucker calling for banning muzzle loaders? His point, and I shit you not, was imagine what the D.C. Sniper could have done with a silenced 50 cal muzzle loader.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 19, 2017 01:25 PM (gC2IV)

92 that an FBI Informant allegedly has VIDEO of Clinton Foundation people
being given suitcases full of cash from Russians, prior to the approval
of the UraniumOne deal which sold twenty percent of US Uranium
manufacturing to Russia's state-owned ROSATOM corporation.


That would be a big f'n deal. I did not previously hear this.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2017 01:26 PM (r+sAi)

93 >>>>Actually, I want to see everyone in his chain of command at that time,
and everyone in the SJA for his duty station at that time rounded up. Up
to and including the AF Chief of Staff. Round 'em up and give every
last one of them his or her walking papers. Immediately.



At this point, I don't care if they're good troops or not. Probably,
most of them are. But a little pour encourager les autres will go a
long way towards tightening up procedures in the future.
.
.
.I doubt it was the low level people that dropped the ball. The wife and I were talking about hits last night. She was a senior Legalman in the Navy and there are procedures set up for this specific case. They had a victim assistant for each and every case tried by the Navy for domestic abuse. They walked the victim through the entire process and went with them to Court for hearings.

Once the sentencing was done and the record of trial was signed off on, they reported the results to JAG in DC. It was up to them to send that stuff off so it could get put into the NICS database.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 01:26 PM (+Dllb)

94 They never want to look into the number of people who get problems from the NICS system who haven't done anything wrong. This whole mess was the compromise with the Brady waiting period law. The whole of it sucks and you'll never convince me that the information is not held somewhere as a data base on who owns firearms.

Do we have to have a background check to write a letter to the editor, a comment on the internet, go to church, buy a computer printer, speak at a town meeting, petition the government? Any other constitutional right?

Do I need to be on an approved person list to be free from having to quarter troops in my home, not be searched without a warrant, get a lawyer to defend me in court and get a jury trial?

Some God given rights are seen by those in power as more problematical than others because all of them can be stamped out once the main protective one is gone.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 01:27 PM (zOpu5)

95 91 Anyone see the idiot gun grabber from NY on Tucker calling for banning muzzle loaders? His point, and I shit you not, was imagine what the D.C. Sniper could have done with a silenced 50 cal muzzle loader.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 19, 2017 01:25 PM (gC2IV)

I picked up on that around the edges last week but never got to the details. I assume it was the whole .50 caliber thing not knowing the difference between .50 BMG and anything else .50.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 01:27 PM (USf3s)

96 Also, Taro-the-Beretta-Whore:
I have a mint 1919 (metal grips), 1930 straight grip Navy, mint 1935 in the box, a model 70 mint in the box, a Model 100 (the long barrel Series 70 with target sights, and a mint Model 81 (which, as you know, is the original "Browning BDA" ).

All .32's, of course.

Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 01:28 PM (y6AEz)

97 His point, and I shit you not, was imagine what the D.C. Sniper could have done with a silenced 50 cal muzzle loader.
Posted by: Duke Lowell



He's going solely off of word salad. Has no idea what the words actually mean.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:28 PM (P0DGT)

98 >>>>Never heard of any repeating firearms used in the American Revolutionary war through the Napoleonic era
.
.
.Look up the Belton flintlock. He offered it for sale to Congress but they said it was too expensive after they ordered 100 of them and cancelled the contract.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at November 19, 2017 01:28 PM (+Dllb)

99 If you dry up the supply of weapons and (especially, God forbid) ammo, you are going to seriously restrict the secondary markets and, while never a "complete" success, such measures might indeed bring down some "gun deaths" (over a long time).
...

Except what actually has happened in the real world in recent decades is that the gun crime rate decreased at the same time as the number of guns doubled and 12 million people started legally carrying.

There are no doubt multiple factors, and it's impossible to prove causation, but the correlation is striking.

Not wanting to really get into it, but when I look at those numbers it's hard to persuade me that more restrictions would be effective.

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 01:28 PM (6HFDU)

100 I see no mention made of the age of the daughter whose boyfriend was shot by her father.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:30 PM (oPNmq)

101 The Marines-Landing-at-Langley story is VERY interesting to me, if true.

I really hope it's true.

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (kUotE)

102 They never want to look into the number of people who get problems from the NICS system who haven't done anything wrong. This whole mess was the compromise with the Brady waiting period law. The whole of it sucks and you'll never convince me that the information is not held somewhere as a data base on who owns firearms.


My prints are already on file with the FBI. I am exempt from background check due to having a CHL. They already know I own guns.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (P0DGT)

103 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (9mZIr)

104 I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

I'm sure it would be a dilly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:32 PM (oPNmq)

105 That would be a big f'n deal. I did not previously hear this.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2017 01:26 PM (r+sAi)


I suspect there might just be a few patriots left in government. Doing their jobs, preparing the nooses. It only takes a couple to throw chunks of metal into the Clinton Foundation gearbox.

You know how sometimes it gets quiet, like real quiet? Then something big blows all the trivial stuff completely off the front page? I got that feeling.

I said before the election back in August or September that Sib 'Vicious' Blumenthal should get the hell out of the country, if he had any sense. Apparently he doesn't have any.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 01:32 PM (ajiE5)

106 104 I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

I'm sure it would be a dilly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


It would be sweet.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:33 PM (P0DGT)

107 Shot him in the groin. Now that's the way to send a clear message!

Also a good way to make sure that he never comes back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 01:34 PM (V2Yro)

108
104 I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

I'm sure it would be a dilly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


It would be sweet.

Posted by: rickb223



But it would be kosher?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at November 19, 2017 01:34 PM (Gguds)

109 "when I look at those numbers it's hard to persuade me that more restrictions would be effective."

The elephant in the room is that we're two nations on gun crime. Deep Blue States have far more than Red States, and most Deep Blue Cities even more so, but there's an inverse correlation with legal gun ownership.

One "nation" has gun crime rates like Switzerland, the other like Jamaica.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 01:35 PM (pV/54)

110 Cleaning guns this afternoon. The shotgun started the whole thing when it acted creaky this morning.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at November 19, 2017 01:35 PM (zORdL)

111 Stop gherkin around with the pickle jokes.

Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 01:35 PM (y6AEz)

112 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?
Posted by: booknlass



Not really. .22 lr is an awfully small caliber for a self defense gun.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:36 PM (P0DGT)

113 They already know I own guns.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (P0DGT)


Yes, it's a pickle, as Nero Wolfe would say.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 01:36 PM (zOpu5)

114 Here's a picture of the actual gun I'm considering:

https://tinyurl.com/y86vyx6j

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:37 PM (9mZIr)

115 Pickle Gun?

Might leave a sour taste in your mouth and in your wallet.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:37 PM (Edyyb)

116 64 I'm seeing a lot of alternative media chatter saying that a USMC MEU landed at Langley VA.
example: https://is.gd/aq9Ewl
WTF?
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands
For what?"

I'm sure Daily Kos is already announcing that Trump is going to abolish Congress and rule as God-Emperor.

Of course failing to note the irony in the fact that Obama has already claimed the position.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 01:38 PM (V2Yro)

117 I would relish owning a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (NWiLs)

118 thanks rickb. I liked the price and the weight of it. but I wondered if it would stop some sumbitch.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (9mZIr)

119 I'm seeing a lot of alternative media chatter saying that a USMC MEU landed at Langley VA.
example: https://is.gd/aq9Ewl
WTF?
Posted by: Bigby's Groping Hands
For what?"

I'm sure Daily Kos is already announcing that Trump is going to abolish Congress and rule as God-Emperor.



You know you go to hell for teasing.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (P0DGT)

120 The AF is not paying out shit, the tax payers are.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 12:40 PM (mpXpK)

Whatever Air Force officers are responsible for the fuckup should be busted down to private and given a general discharge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (oPNmq)

121

We'll go back to single shot flintlocks when the MSM go back to the town cryer system, etc. etc. etc.


I'd love to see Shep Smith reduced to semaphore.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (oVJmc)

122 104 I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

They're our bread and butter

Posted by: Vlassic Gun Corp at November 19, 2017 01:40 PM (3JQ/p)

123 One rifle we can't keep in my Wal-Mart is the Savage Axis in 6.5mm Creedmor. It comes with a bull barrel, a decent scope, and an Accu-Trigger. All for just under $400.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:40 PM (Edyyb)

124 Great video on the Puckle Gun:

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/puckle-gun-video/

Posted by: Monty James at November 19, 2017 01:40 PM (gKOMX)

125 Ignoramus said:

" One "nation" has gun crime rates like Switzerland, the other like Jamaica."

I wonder what the gun crime numbers per capita would look like if you just took out anyplace " deep blue".

I suspect it would prove your point.

Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 01:41 PM (y6AEz)

126 125 Ignoramus said:

" One "nation" has gun crime rates like Switzerland, the other like Jamaica."

I wonder what the gun crime numbers per capita would look like if you just took out anyplace " deep blue".

I suspect it would prove your point.
Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 01:41 PM (y6AEz)

I believe it drops us to Belgium-like numbers when you drop out the four Democrat-run shitholes with the top homicide rates.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 01:42 PM (NWiLs)

127 but I wondered if it would stop some sumbitch.
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (9mZIr)


It COULD, but it's not worth betting on especially if you're specifically choosing it for defense.

What about it, in particular, caught your eye? We could probably come up with a pistol that fits that bill, but in a stouter cartridge.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 01:43 PM (y87Qq)

128 thanks rickb. I liked the price and the weight of it. but I wondered if it would stop some sumbitch.
Posted by: booknlass


9mm, .32, .380 in order of self defense best-to-worse, in my opinion.

(I personally prefer a .45 acp, but I do understand people having trouble handing recoil)

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:44 PM (P0DGT)

129 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?
Posted by: booknlass

The main issue with .22 and self defense is that .22 isn't quite as reliable as a typical centerfire cartridge. In revolvers there can be a stiff trigger pull.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 01:44 PM (USf3s)

130 123 One rifle we can't keep in my Wal-Mart is the Savage Axis in 6.5mm Creedmor. It comes with a bull barrel, a decent scope, and an Accu-Trigger. All for just under $400.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:40 PM (Edyyb)

Shop smart. Shop Wal-Mart! YOU GOT THAT?!
-Anna Puma Ashe

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 01:47 PM (ycWCI)

131 Back from shopping.
Yeah I dunno what to make of it. I thought posse comitatus and all that would prevent the USMC from doing anything like offensive actions. Maybe just a drill? The sealed indictments thing is a teaser, though.

Posted by: Bigby's Typing Hands at November 19, 2017 01:47 PM (z2W2E)

132 Shop smart. Shop Wal-Mart! YOU GOT THAT?!
-Anna Puma Ashe
Posted by: Aetius451AD



*snort. ISWYDT

That's her boomstick!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 01:48 PM (P0DGT)

133 Iggy said:
"I believe it drops us to Belgium-like numbers when you drop out the four Democrat-run shitholes with the top homicide rates."

No doubt.

I'd like to see the number once all gang related gun crime, and both shooter/shootee have drug records, were removed.

Bet that would clean up 50-70% of the non-deep-blue incidents.

...making the final analysis "gun crime is generally rare in the USA".

Posted by: retropox at November 19, 2017 01:48 PM (y6AEz)

134 I predict there will be a boom-stick in Aetius' future... if there isn't one already.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 01:48 PM (Edyyb)

135
Sooooooo glad they destroyed their own "platform." It was, and remains, unmitigated swill.
Posted by: zombie at November 19, 2017 01:23 PM (42M22)

I used to comment there before they went to Facebook comments.

In the early days, the first column on the left side of the page was the links to celebrity and politician columns, many of those columns calling for more respect for women and their bodies.

The column on the far right was mostly about breaking news in the World of Sideboob, Underboob, NipSlips, Upskirt shots, and photos of the cooches of unfortunate models who had tripped on the runway.

I always enjoyed pointing out to the feminist columnists what was going on over on the other side of the front page.

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 01:49 PM (6HFDU)

136
103 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (9mZIr)








It's better than a sharpened stick, but I definitely wouldn't call it a good defensive gun. On the other hand, ANY gun is better than NO gun when it comes to self-defense. It's just that there are more effective choices available. If you can physically handle it, you should consider something more powerful. And unless you have a physical disability of some sort, you CAN handle a more powerful handgun. Don't sell yourself short.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2017 01:50 PM (eXA4G)

137 "I believe it drops us to Belgium-like numbers when you drop out the four Democrat-run shitholes with the top homicide rates."

I think you're exactly right. The numbers aren't really correlated with "deep blue" or "deep red" - they are EXTREMELY correlated with "all white" and "not a lot of white".

I know that's not polite to say openly, but that's what the numbers say. Connecticut, Oregon? Not a lot of gun crime. Texas, especially down in the Valley or the dusky areas of the major cities? You know the answer already.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 01:50 PM (V2Yro)

138 The wold's oldest revolver -1597.

https://thornews.com/2014/03/27/the-worlds-oldest-existing-revolver-1597/

There was also a rifle version.

Then there was the Nock Volley Rifle (7 barrels), the duck foot pistol, and the pepperbox.

Of course, Jefferson owned a Girandoni with a "high capacity" magazine of 20 rounds

Yeah, the Founding Fathers couldn't imagine anything but a single shot musket.

Posted by: Piers Rather, Ace Reporter at November 19, 2017 01:51 PM (BsuY/)

139 Gun thread!!

Go buy ammo today: http://www.kimdutoit.com/ 2017/11/19/ national-ammo-day/

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2017 01:51 PM (VyLpy)

140 And if we're gonna go mounting recoilless rifles, well, this is Trump's America - do it bigly:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)



Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (fA1SL)

Heh. They have a display devoted to that at the Museum of Atomic Testing in Las Vegas, which Morons and Ettes attending the GNAMM were privileged to visit. The warhead for Davy Crockett is a tad smaller than a 20-pound propane cylinder, and much the same shape.

And the transport vehicle used for the Davy Crockett was the by then venerable M29 Weasel, which means I have an example of the most heavily-armed tracked vehicle (in terms of destructive power) ever deployed by the U.S. military. Sadly lacking in Davy Crockett attachment, though. (aka, the thing that blows up)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:51 PM (oPNmq)

141 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?

.22 LR is inadequate for self defense. IMO, 9 mm (or .380 in a high performance load like Corbon) is the minimum for self defense. However, the Ruger 22/45 would be an excellent gun for training and practice.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 19, 2017 01:54 PM (7oUUT)

142 I can't afford much, and I want stopping power. Next step after I buy it is concealed carry, so it should be good for that.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:54 PM (9mZIr)

143 The Mercury Register of San Jose ran an article quoting a local Stanford prof that claims the Tehama massacre was proof that guns needed their own tax to be used prevent gun violence.

I was so offended that I emailed the gentleman in his ivory tower.

I explained that root cause of the massacre was that the state did nothing when it was on notice that a person who had a court order not to possess weapons was firing weapons for months before the crime. More money for government wasn't going to fix stupid.

The ivory tower replied that it was evidence that the cops who were likely NRA members were influenced by the NRA so as to be non-responsive to reports of gunfire.

This is serious stuff because this smart feller gets paid probably on the order of $300k yr to entertain fictional truths. And they teach. Somehow this situation needs to change.

Posted by: torabora at November 19, 2017 01:55 PM (YrlJh)

144 Wonder what I should get?
__________
Fun, what are you considering, what's the budget?

Posted by: BuckIV at November 19, 2017 01:55 PM (CLfqv)

145 Whatever Air Force officers are responsible for the fuckup should be busted down to private and given a general discharge.
....
Yep, but the problem is with the whole military. They're hardly reporting anything. Many of the states are failing to do so too.

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 01:55 PM (6HFDU)

146 It's a bit more complicated than black/white, but there's obvious correlation.

e.g., NYC fixed its gun homicide problem with more than a decade of aggressive policing. It now has 3.0 murders per 100,000 (it's actually lower if you included commuters, tourists and other assorted revellers in the denominator).

DC has 24.1, Chicago has 28.7, Baltimore 55.4, despite their being ant-legal firearm ownership. Go figure.

PC-driven abdication. And BLM made it worse.

You can't fix stupid.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 01:57 PM (pV/54)

147 Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:54 PM (9mZIr)

Looks like the 'Rons are generally agreed that one *won't* have stopping power. There are news reports all the time about would-be robbers/home invaders fleeing after multiple .22 wounds, including to the head, but the important part is probably that they did flee instead of continuing the attack.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:58 PM (rp9xB)

148 142 I can't afford much, and I want stopping power. Next step after I buy it is concealed carry, so it should be good for that.
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:54 PM (9mZIr)

There a number of subcompact centerfire pistols you can get for the same price or less than a Ruger 22/45.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 01:58 PM (NWiLs)

149 I can't afford much, and I want stopping power. Next step after I buy it is concealed carry, so it should be good for that.
Posted by: booknlass



Check your state laws on what is the minimum caliber for taking your chl test. Some states will not allow .22 lr, .25 acp, or .380.

If you are only buying one gun, that will help determine caliber.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 02:00 PM (P0DGT)

150 Mae shoots a Tank-Gewehr.

https://youtu.be/_ovHGvT4f9k

(the Lewis gun one is worth a look too)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 02:00 PM (2K6fY)

151 but the important part is probably that they did flee instead of continuing the attack.


That was one of the things I got out of reading gun magazines mumble years ago. Something like "a .22 might not kill an attacker but it will change his attitude".

I tried to explain this to Mommy after she was widowed and afraid of things that go bump in the night and I gave her a .22 revolver, but she couldn't get over her fear of guns and I ended up taking it back.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 02:02 PM (gIRsn)

152 Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 02:00 PM (P0DGT)

What is the rationale given for having a minimum caliber?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 02:02 PM (rp9xB)

153 Have my 300 Win Mag hand loads programmed into a Sig Sauer 2400ABS Laser. The biggest problem I see with the Laser is that you have a choice on how to handle the wind deflection issue. Either you put in your estimated wind direction and speed for each shot or you put in a zero for wind which will give you the spin drift and Coriolis only, and you then use a printed table for wind deflections to add or subtract from the indicated horizontal deflection. I'll probably go the latter route.

The laser is light, accurate and easy to use. It combines a weather station, long range laser finder, compass, inclinometer and the ABS computer program for ballistics calculations. Like any precision instrument, you don't want to drop it. It comes with the custom curves for the Hornady 225 grain ELDM bullet I am using so it will give accurate hold offs even in the extremely long distances where the bullet has gone subsonic. While the laser is expensive (Street around $1500) - I think it is well worth the money.

Posted by: An Observation at November 19, 2017 02:03 PM (fzlcO)

154
Speaking of recoilless rifles, I have a love/hate relationship with them. I was briefly an M67 90mm gunner in the mid-80s. Loved firing it, especially the flechette round. Carrying that heavy-assed sewer pipe on forced marches, not so much.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 19, 2017 02:03 PM (eXA4G)

155 Interestingly, though all other threads eventually turn into gun threads, the gun thread itself maintains its gun-centric integrity. Not even likker or bewbs. I am impressed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:04 PM (qJtVm)

156 Silly question.


Aquila Mini-shells, in buckshot size.

They have fallen off the planet, or are being sold on gun broker for absolutely ridiculous prices.

Anybody know of a dealer who has them in stock?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 02:06 PM (EyPfd)

157 76
66. Rockets. Or recoilless rifles, ftw.



And if we're gonna go mounting recoilless rifles, well, this is Trump's America - do it bigly:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)



Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Booking Agent, Aero Pinochet at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (fA1SL)

---------------------

I was trained in fire direction control school on this and the Honest John. Honest John was 762mm in diameter. Could be armed with conventional (1,500 lb HE) warhead, chemical or nuclear ones as well.

Posted by: Javems at November 19, 2017 02:06 PM (yOqwj)

158 thanks rickb. I liked the price and the weight of it. but I wondered if it would stop some sumbitch.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:39 PM (9mZIr)

Well, the other side of the coin is that the magazine probably holds more rounds than your average nine millimeter, and recoil issues, and the resulting flinch reflex are almost non-existent. Meaning you should be able to get more rounds on target quicker. And .22 ammo is cheap, so you can afford to do plenty of practice.


If the price is really cheap, I'd say go ahead and buy it. Good for practice, if nothing else, and for fun plinking, and gaining familiarity. If it's $300 or more, and you can afford only one pistol, then there are many 9 mm offerings in that price range.

When it comes to a real self-defense situation, a .22 in your hand is better than a .45 that you never bought.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 02:06 PM (oPNmq)

159 Something like "a .22 might not kill an attacker but it will change his attitude".

Believe me, getting shot with one is wayyy down on my Things To Do list, but if (God forbid) I ever need to shoot another human being, it's because I need him to stop doing whatever he's doing RIGHT FRIGGIN' NOW. I don't want count on him working on his attitude and reconsidering his life choices.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 19, 2017 02:06 PM (7oUUT)

160 What is the rationale given for having a minimum caliber?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette



No idea. Possibly because they don't feel that they are effective.

Texas has changed a bunch. They now allow .22lr. Used to they didn't. Also, if you only qualified with a revolver, that's all you could carry. They changed that too.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 02:06 PM (P0DGT)

161 96
Also, Taro-the-Beretta-Whore:

I have a mint 1919 (metal grips), 1930 straight grip Navy, mint 1935
in the box, a model 70 mint in the box, a Model 100 (the long barrel
Series 70 with target sights, and a mint Model 81 (which, as you know,
is the original "Browning BDA" ).

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Agghhhh! Ya killin' me!

I missed out by about two days on a Model 82. Unobtanium magazines, but I love the non-hooked trigger guard.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 02:07 PM (1ouh3)

162 I can't afford much, and I want stopping power.-/i]

Rock Island Armory M206 .38 special is a cheap and decent purse gun. You can get a new one for ~$230.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 19, 2017 02:07 PM (r9UYA)

163 What drives me nuts is that none of the Common Sense Gun Controls would have more than a marginal effect on reducing gun crime, and an infinitesimal effect on reducing gun mass murders.

And we know this because of Science. We've in effect run many controlled experiments, with and without, side by side. The evidence is there.

But Feelz, and cynical political manipulation.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 02:07 PM (pV/54)

Posted by: Under Fire at November 19, 2017 02:07 PM (r9UYA)

165 "DC has 24.1, Chicago has 28.7, Baltimore 55.4, despite their being ant-legal firearm ownership. Go figure. "

Good point about murder rates. Looked up the major Texas cities, to see how they would compare, since even though they're usually run by the Dems they still have effective police forces.

Houston - 13.3
Dallas - 10.7
Fort Worth - 6.7
San Antonio - 6.4
Austin - 2.5

About what I'd expected, especially given that Houston is one of the major transfer points for the narcotraficantes. They've got a heavy, heavy presence there.

Austin is so low because it's still basically just a government town with a big college and now, a booming high-tech industry with a lot of very upscale people.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 02:08 PM (V2Yro)

166 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?
Posted by: booknlass
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Next time she is here, talk to Peaches. She is a small framed woman (her own description) and I believe has studied the topic at some length, purely hypothetically, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:09 PM (y3sT9)

167 Single shot rifle.

No magazine.

No Thing that goes up.



So it would be safer than an AR-15, and available for purchase?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 02:10 PM (EyPfd)

168 103
would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 01:31 PM (9mZIr)


There have already been several guys discussing the best cartridge to select, and I don't disagree with any of them. But I think it is really important to get something that you're comfortable shooting, so that you will practice and develop the muscle memory to instinctively run the gun. If you have weapon you don't like to shoot, you won't tend to go to the range very much.

If you're not already familiar with the Cornered Cat website, I highly recommend it. The section on choosing a firearm is excellent. The whole site is an absorbing timewaster:

http://www.corneredcat.com/Contents/

Posted by: Monty James at November 19, 2017 02:10 PM (gKOMX)

169 Saw a article not long ago the US Army was looking into recoilless rifles again

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 02:10 PM (aC6Sd)

170 There are news reports all the time about would-be robbers/home invaders fleeing after multiple .22 wounds, including to the head, but the important part is probably that they did flee instead of continuing the attack.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:58 PM (rp9xB)

Years back I saw a statistic that no homeowner had ever been killed by the assailant if they put a bullet - no matter what size - into someone who meant to rob or harm them.

I can't see a thug looking at the blood pouring out of his leg and getting his calipers out and measuring the entrance wound. If the statistic is correct any size bullet hole is a good size bullet hole.

Posted by: Ace Tractor Seat Supply at November 19, 2017 02:11 PM (ajiE5)

171 So it would be safer than an AR-15, and available for purchase?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 02:10 PM (EyPfd)

Decent stopping power.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 19, 2017 02:11 PM (ycWCI)

172 Pennsylvania black powder firearms are cash and carry, even reproductions

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 02:11 PM (aC6Sd)

173 >>>It's all very strange, and I think spells the end of the Huffington Post -- now known officially as "HuffPost" -- as a site anyone pays the slightest attention to.


HuffPostMortem. It does look a lot more minimalist from the last time I visited them several years ago. I do see a link on "Lifestyle" where you can access the soft news, but yes, it's not on the front page.

I love the video "Is Shep the only voice of reason on Fox News?" He is such a turd. I wonder if he's being given the freedom to do that, or if he's being instructed to do that so as to be the token liberal.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 02:12 PM (/qEW2)

174 What drives me nuts is that none of the Common Sense Gun Controls would have more than a marginal effect on reducing gun crime,
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You haven't heard my plan. Simply disarm all Democrats. Gun related crime would plumment. When the topic comes up, liberal acquaintances seem curiously unable to endorse this plan, and yet, can not tell me why.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:13 PM (y3sT9)

175 2018... Maybe look at reloading.
Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 01:12 PM (USf3s)

Try these guys....I got the 20 rounders for my C93 and fit and run well.

http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-93-33-33K-53-Magazines-Mag-Clamps-Loader-c156.htm

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 02:13 PM (nUkMr)

176 An interesting quote from Ted Nugent on Louder with Crowder last week. "It's the bill of rights not the bill of needs" Not original to Ted but I had not heard it before.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 02:15 PM (VDQek)

177 I worked with a guy once, we all know his wife was pretty big and had a "poor attitude" at times. She was on the street downtown and some guy tried to grab her purse, she wouldn't let go, he pulled out a .25, told her to let it go, she said the Hell with you, so he shot her somewhere in the side, so she beat the shit out of him and dragged him to a police station that was about a block away. They had to make her go get treated, since she was so mad she didn't even feel it.

After that her husband would always say " whatever you do, don't shoot Lucy. It just pisses her off."

(also don't ever own a .25)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 02:15 PM (V2Yro)

178 Saw a article not long ago the US Army was looking into recoilless rifles again
Posted by: Skip
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The Horde has always had a strong affinity for the Ontus.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yd2acpsd

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:16 PM (y3sT9)

179 There were no practical repeating firearms available prior to the introduction of the percussion cap, with the exception of double-barreled pieces. There were quite a number of experimental pieces, but they simply weren't useful weapons. Pointing to them is a poor counter to a stupid argument.

A better response might be to point out that 1) muskets were military weapons specifically adapted to killing people and rather more effective than a lot of people these days tend to believe, and 2) the 2nd Amendment doesn't say "firearms," but "arms." That includes the rest of the 18th century armory that was used to compensate for the weakness of muzzleloading weapons - bayonets, swords (in quite a variety of forms), daggers and dirks, pikes, spontoons/spears, halberds, tomahawks, and even war clubs.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 19, 2017 02:18 PM (bZ7mE)

180 Back when men were men.

http://bit.ly/2AdRNmi

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:18 PM (Nwg0u)

181 I finally got to the range on Friday and it felt good to send some lead down range. Had the chance to try out the new BX trigger on the Ruger 10/22. And having that trigger pull reduced by at least half made a difference.

Also, I brought the Marlin Model 60, which I haven't used in several years. Forgot just how sweet a 22lr it is. It easily kept up with the Ruger for reliability and accuracy. If I still hunted I would feel confident using either of them.

Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 02:18 PM (V+03K)

182 Rock Island Armory M206 .38 special is a cheap and decent purse gun. You can get a new one for ~$230.

Posted by: Under Fire at November 19, 2017 02:07 PM (r9UYA)

That looks interesting. I also was going to suggest a "full weight" .38 snubbie. Charter Arms seems to have a good product these days as well. Not sure about Rossi. And plenty to choose from on the second hand market.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:18 PM (USf3s)

183 I have always followed the advice in a biker magazine from nearly 40 years ago. Guy said in prison he knew lots of guys shot by 9mm' s, no one by a 45

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 02:21 PM (aC6Sd)

184 booknlass, my main beef with .22 for a defense round is that primer failures are not uncommon. It would not be a good feeling to pull the trigger and hear "click."

For an economical gun in a carry size in decent caliber, look into the Bersa .380. Go to galleryofguns.com and use their Gun Genie to find the Bersa pistols (select "Bersa" from brand and ".380" from caliber, and pop in your zip code.) I've heard the "Plus" models with 15-round mags sometimes have issues, but I've heard only good things about the regular 8-round mag models.

Not a recommendation, just a suggestion. I'm probably going to grab one myself soon. Try before you buy, if possible.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 02:22 PM (1ouh3)

185 And an ammo alert.


Walmart still has the Federal Auto-match 22lr in a box of 325 for $14.88. Less than a nickel a round.

And Mrs VIA's AR-15 with the CMMG dedicated upper eats the stuff like candy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 02:23 PM (EyPfd)

186 Try these guys....I got the 20 rounders for my C93 and fit and run well.

http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-93-33-33K-53-Magazines-Mag-Clamps-Loader-c156.htm
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 02:13 PM (nUkMr)

Thanks. That's where I got my 30 rounders. I got 4 --3 worked fine and 1 likely requires the modding they mention. The surplus Mag I received with the gun was full of sand and dust. I cleaned it out good but it's buggy. I'll likely try to do a spring replacement and see what happens.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:23 PM (USf3s)

187 booknlass, I have a .38 special that I love. I had stocked up on ammo before the omamao hoopla. It will stop someone, doesn't have much of a kick and fits my hand nicely. I am just an average size female.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 02:24 PM (4ZKcy)

188 I have read about this Puckle gun before, it used square bullets for Muzzies, round for Christians

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 02:24 PM (aC6Sd)

189 "Second amendment proponents have been repeatedly told the Founding Fathers didn't have anything more than a musket."

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When the press tries that one, I ask, "Wait, why are they called 'the press' when they aren't using a printing press?"

If the 2nd Amendment only applies to muskets, then the 1st Amendment only applies to reporters who use a printing press.

Posted by: RKae at November 19, 2017 02:24 PM (NMr2n)

190
My iWatch is happy that I'm "crushing it" today.


But do my guns ever tell me that they're happy that I'm "crushing it"?

No, the ungrateful bastards do not.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2017 02:25 PM (NyJwR)

191 Recommending a gun for someone is problematical (my word for the day I guess). recommending against a specific gun because it has problems is not.

Best is to visit a store that has many and try them for how they feel in you hand. How easy they are to use, rack, load, disassemble to clean, carry, etc. Then try firing the ones you like if they have that ability where you shop. If not find a range that rents ones you like.

.22 will kill but outside of a lucky brain or spinal hit will not rapidly dissuade a bad guy from his evil purpose. If I was to get an inexpensive .22 for home defense it would likely be that Keltec 30 round .22 magnum pistol and loaded with the Speer .22 magnum gold dot ammo. Volume making up for the small bullet. But that is me and I already have several home defense guns that are at least .38 special or more.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 02:26 PM (zOpu5)

192 But do my guns ever tell me that they're happy that I'm "crushing it"?

They should say "Nailed it!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 02:26 PM (qJtVm)

193 OT: Trump is not much of a turn-the-other-cheek-er:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Now that the three basketball players are out of China and saved from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo, is unaccepting of what I did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. I should have left them in jail!
10:42 AM - Nov 19, 2017

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:26 PM (Nwg0u)

194 But do my guns ever tell me that they're happy that I'm "crushing it"?

No, the ungrateful bastards do not.

Posted by: naturalfake

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If you can't hear your guns' joy, then you are not listening!

You would probably have a tough time hearing Garrett Morris!

Posted by: RKae at November 19, 2017 02:26 PM (NMr2n)

195 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 01:04 PM (y3sT9)

Good to see you back. With you and Muldoon both returned a serious gap in the Horde has been filled.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:11 PM (rp9xB)


Seconded.

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2017 02:27 PM (TZagw)

196 22 LR is inadequate for self defense. IMO, 9 mm (or .380 in a high
performance load like Corbon) is the minimum for self defense. However,
the Ruger 22/45 would be an excellent gun for training and practice.



People rarely ask what caliber weapon they have been shot with.

Around 1900 there was a professional hunter in Africa who hunted and killed Elephants with single shots from a .22 just to show people it could be done.

The stat I read on hand guns was this: people shot once with a hand gun - all calibers from .22 to .45 - stood an 80% chance of surviving. People shot twice with a hand gun - all calibers from .22 to .45 - stood a 90% chance of dying.

I think a .22 revolver is a much better choice than a .22 auto - simply because of the reliability issues with .rimfire ammo - which, in my opinion, is the main suitability issue for a .22 for self defense.

Posted by: An Observation at November 19, 2017 02:27 PM (fzlcO)

197 189 Excellent.

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 02:27 PM (kUotE)

198 That looks interesting. I also was going to suggest a "full weight" .38 snubbie. Charter Arms seems to have a good product these days as well. Not sure about Rossi. And plenty to choose from on the second hand market.
Posted by: Keith



Taurus over Rossi. JMHO

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 02:27 PM (P0DGT)

199 Keep using the 30-06 and buy a Martin guitar.

Your gun's fine and good for groundhogs to grizzlies. You'll use the Martin to serenade the others back at the camp.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 19, 2017 02:27 PM (BeKMO)

200 I might have to go on very low dose Coumadin for A-Fib. It occurred to me to use some slip on recoil pads for my center fire rifles, especially the ones with those nice forgiving steel butt plates. I can handle any rational amount of recoil but probably want to avoid big bruises.

I've been looking at the Pachmayr Decelerator pads and the Allen Recoil Eraser. Anybody have experience with these or others like them?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (V+03K)

201 198 That looks interesting. I also was going to suggest a "full weight" .38 snubbie. Charter Arms seems to have a good product these days as well. Not sure about Rossi. And plenty to choose from on the second hand market.
Posted by: Keith



Taurus over Rossi. JMHO
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2017 02:27 PM (P0DGT)

Or EAA. They make some decent, economical handguns.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (NWiLs)

202 Not a recommendation, just a suggestion. I'm probably going to grab one myself soon. Try before you buy, if possible.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 02:22 PM (1ouh3)

I've not shot one and I know they are very popular... but, I believe they are blowback. I have x3 blowback guns in 9mm Markov and that power level a blowback action generates a nice recoil. It's too bad there are so few options in .380 that have a locking action. I believe that combo is the percent solution for the recoil sensitive.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (USf3s)

203 "Second amendment proponents have been repeatedly told the Founding Fathers didn't have anything more than a musket."

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That and testicles.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (Nwg0u)

204 Booknlass, I have almost zero expertise, but I did touch some guns at a gun show once and found the shape of the grip made a huge difference in perceived usability.

I have very small hands (wedding ring size: 3.75) but some small grips didn't feel very stable in my hands. I really liked the way the LadySmith revolver felt.

When I actually go gun shopping, I want to try the LadySmith, the S&W Shield, and the Ruger LCP.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (ZapPq)

205 Thanks everyone. I checked the Illinois gun laws and see no minimum caliber for taking the test.

But I might be looking in the wrong place.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (9mZIr)

206 No, the ungrateful bastards do not.

Posted by: naturalfake
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Oh, so you own a High Standard?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (y3sT9)

207 166 would a Ruger 22/45 be a good self defense gun for me, an 'ette?
Posted by: booknlass
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Next time she is here, talk to Peaches. She is a small framed woman (her own description) and I believe has studied the topic at some length, purely hypothetically, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

IIRC, Peaches' 'fluffy' is a stainless Ruger 5 shot revolver, .38/.357 SP 101, 3 inch barrel. (Ihave one, that's why I remember).

I'd also suggest a Ruger LC9, or similar.

When my shoulder or wrists act up (arthritis) I carry the SP, otherwise I ccw the lighter LC9. Revolvers are still around for a reason. Racking a semi action with poor grip strength is a real issue.

Posted by: mr brown at November 19, 2017 02:29 PM (3tkRx)

208 205 Thanks everyone. I checked the Illinois gun laws and see no minimum caliber for taking the test.

But I might be looking in the wrong place.
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (9mZIr)

You need to leave the People's Glorious Democratic Republic of Illinois and move to a free state.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 02:29 PM (NWiLs)

209 Im using a Ruger Precision in 308 for deer season, started yesterday. Got rained out and today was too busy, but Im headed out tomorrow morning. If I get something Ill let you guys and gals know.

Posted by: You will love my Richard at November 19, 2017 02:30 PM (8Zq2n)

210 Good to see you back. With you and Muldoon both returned a serious gap in the Horde has been filled.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 01:11 PM (rp9xB)


Seconded.
Posted by: JT
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Thanks guys. I'm just blather, but Muldoon is art.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:30 PM (y3sT9)

211 Thanks guys. I'm just blather, but Muldoon is art.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:30 PM (y3sT9)

Even Pollock and Rothko are considered art (by some) so there's plenty of leeway there.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 02:30 PM (NWiLs)

212 Hate to go OT in such a well armed thread, but I thought you guys might get a chuckle:

Word around the interwebz is the Miami/Tampa Bay NFL game in Miami has attendance of... Maybe 10k. The report is they've closed the upper bowl and moved everyone down. Stadium capacity is 65,300 or so.

It must be because of the Holiday week or something...

Posted by: Bilwis, suddenly not a finicky eater at November 19, 2017 02:31 PM (tMFgx)

213 Present. Great gum thread. Thanks, MH.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2017 02:31 PM (tbOMB)

214 Weekend Gun Thread! Sorry I'm late... stopped by the office on the way home from the range this morning.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 02:31 PM (Sfs6o)

215 @178 If it wasn't so hard to spell, and you didn't have to get out to reload, there would be McDonalds in Hanoi today.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 02:32 PM (H5rtT)

216 Most of the regulations, especially in Southern states, came in concert with the increasingly onerous slave codes.
Posted by: whig at November 19, 2017 12:24 PM (s8rl2)


Unfortunately I do not have a reference but have read some of the earliest (colonial) regs was that you couldn't let your slave(s) have guns. Probably right around when the colonial gov started to recognize the difference between "slavery" and "indentured servitude".

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 19, 2017 02:32 PM (IWbvi)

217 I'll likely try to do a spring replacement and see what happens.
Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:23 PM (USf3s)

Cool!......my C93 was bought used and it is as accurate as my AR's and runs great.

Century guns, except for their newer AK's, are assembled from used parts with a new barrel so it's fun to work out all the kinks.

In the past, they bought surplus guns/parts by the ton on pallets so there are bound to be a lemon or three in the mix.

Sometimes not even a new barrel but you take your chances.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 02:32 PM (nUkMr)

218 BTW I cannot BELIEVE the convolution and sheer density of the gun laws I just read.

it would be so easy to break one of those regulations, just because you didn't know it.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 02:33 PM (9mZIr)

219 For home defense, the other Morons are right - it's tough to beat a double-action .38 revolver for reliability and simplicity. Not so great for carry, though. And I'd definitely avoid a snubbie. 3" barrel minimum.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 02:33 PM (1ouh3)

220 The right bullet for the defensive situation is also important now that we have choices other than FMJ. Winter clothing vs summer wear of the bad guy. Apartment vs home and are others only a thin wall away?

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 02:33 PM (zOpu5)

221 218 BTW I cannot BELIEVE the convolution and sheer density of the gun laws I just read.

it would be so easy to break one of those regulations, just because you didn't know it.
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 02:33 PM (9mZIr)

That's the idea.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 02:34 PM (NWiLs)

222 Back when men were men.

http://bit.ly/2AdRNmi

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:18 PM (Nwg0u)


========

https://tinyurl.com/y892g4ma

Beyotch, please.

Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at November 19, 2017 02:35 PM (/qEW2)

223 it would be so easy to break one of those regulations, just because you didn't know it.
Posted by: booknlass
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Art. 17.3.1 - Sneezing without covering your mouth will result in loss of concealed carry license.

Posted by: NYC Consolidated Handgun Code at November 19, 2017 02:35 PM (5OO3x)

224 Thanks for any suggestions.

Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (V+03K)

I have a Pachmeyr Decelerator on my Remington 700BDL 30.06.

It works fine. I used to fire 20-30 rounds with just a little bit of shoulder soreness.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 02:36 PM (wYseH)

225 You use a Davey Crockett on the offender's 'hood so they get the message.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at November 19, 2017 02:36 PM (Edyyb)

226 I tried the Al Franken attachment to my muzzleloader, but it just made it louder. Any suggestions?
Get the tongue-depressor. [Sorry; late to the thread. ]

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2017 02:37 PM (mJ8mX)

227 I've had my eye on one of those new Ruger Precision rifles and now they are available in 6.5 Creedmoor. Me want.
Posted by: Guzalot

T/C has a nice 6.5 Creedmore offering as well

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2017 02:37 PM (9TU00)

228 Apartment vs home and are others only a thin wall away?

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 02:33 PM (zOpu5)

Excellent point. I am in a state that makes possession of hollow point or soft point rounds pretty much worse than Hitler. They are legal for home defense, but I can't imagine a prosecutor not taking advantage of that hysterical law if I were ever to use a hollow point for home self defense.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 02:38 PM (wYseH)

229 213 Personally I'm a big fan of the Wrigley's product line, but Beeches is a classic. Love clove and blackjack.

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 02:38 PM (kUotE)

230 224 ... CBD, Thanks for that. Just the kind of information I need.

Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 02:39 PM (V+03K)

231 217 I'll likely try to do a spring replacement and see what happens.
Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:23 PM (USf3s)

Cool!......my C93 was bought used and it is as accurate as my AR's and runs great.

Century guns, except for their newer AK's, are assembled from used parts with a new barrel so it's fun to work out all the kinks.

In the past, they bought surplus guns/parts by the ton on pallets so there are bound to be a lemon or three in the mix.

Sometimes not even a new barrel but you take your chances.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 02:32 PM (nUkMr)


I'm really happy with mine. the front sight is slightly canted but no biggie. What's neat is that the HK sighting iron sights work well with my aging eyes. I don't have to use light readers to bring everything into focus.

Checked the bolt parameters with my feeler gauges and found it is optimal --in fact at the top end optimal--with all specifications.

And, you simply must get a quality collapsible stock

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:40 PM (USf3s)

232 state that makes possession of hollow point or soft point rounds pretty much worse than Hitler

Why, that's just crazy talk. NY? NJ?

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 02:41 PM (4ZKcy)

233 it would be so easy to break one of those regulations, just because you didn't know it.
Posted by: booknlass
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If you follow through on this, I would strongly recommend this book:
http://lawofselfdefense.com/book/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:41 PM (5OO3x)

234 Why not make the fine for the rejected instant background check an administrative fine that can offset tax refunds? Or send the illegal gun purchase attempts to local DAs that want to protect their local citizens?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 02:42 PM (BtQd4)

235 "Pointing to them is a poor counter to a stupid argument."

No, the argument is not whether they were practical (though Lewis and Clark and the Austrian Army might argue the point), but whether the Founding Fathers could have imagined them.

Posted by: Piers Rather, Ace Reporter at November 19, 2017 02:42 PM (BsuY/)

236 I am in a state that makes possession of hollow point or soft point rounds pretty much worse than Hitler. They are legal for home defense, but I can't imagine a prosecutor not taking advantage of that hysterical law if I were ever to use a hollow point for home self defense.


I had a firearms instructor tell me to use Blaser safety slugs years ago because I could say that I heard that's what LEOs use, the idea being that the more thought went into the lethality of the rounds the worse it would look for you. So, "I don't know nuthin, I just bought these because".

My reason for having Talons in my self-defense mag is that there was an ammo shortage ten years ago when I bought them and that's all that was available.

My reason for having Talons interspersed with solid points is that I don't know what I'm doing and figured I'd just mix in everything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 02:44 PM (gIRsn)

237 203 "Second amendment proponents have been repeatedly told the Founding Fathers didn't have anything more than a musket."

-
That and testicles.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (Nwg0u)

Little known fact, but Musket Nutz were a popular accessory during the Revolutionary War.

Posted by: Insomniac - Nobody in Particular at November 19, 2017 02:44 PM (NWiLs)

238 For home defense, the other Morons are right - it's tough to beat a double-action .38 revolver for reliability and simplicity. Not so great for carry, though. And I'd definitely avoid a snubbie. 3" barrel minimum.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto

A friend of mine used to have a .357 snubbie (S&W). It was actually a lousy gun (Model 23? if I recall correctly). Hard to hit anything with it, even using .38 special rounds. He had no end of troubles with it, and eventually sold it.
Not a big fan of short barreled revolvers.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at November 19, 2017 02:46 PM (S6Pax)

239 Little known fact, but Musket Nutz were a popular accessory during the Revolutionary War.
Posted by: Insomniac
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There's a joke in this about mini-balls, but I can't stitch it together.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2017 02:46 PM (5OO3x)

240 No, the argument is not whether they were practical (though Lewis and Clark and the Austrian Army might argue the point), but whether the Founding Fathers could have imagined them.

Lewis and Clark never actually shot that airgun at anything alive, you know. It was basically a bit of "magic" to impress the aborigines.

Also, I'm not sure that an airgun is properly a firearm any more than is a stone/bullet bow.

Posted by: Grey Fox at November 19, 2017 02:47 PM (bZ7mE)

241 Thanks for any suggestions.
Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 02:28 PM (V+03K)
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JTB - is your cardiologist thinking recoil might be a problem for your A-fib, or is it mostly a comfort thing?

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 02:47 PM (Sfs6o)

242 I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

I'm sure it would be a dilly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:32 PM (oPNmq)

Britain's Gherkin mercenaries used them.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2017 02:47 PM (mJ8mX)

243 And, you simply must get a quality collapsible stock
Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:40 PM (USf3s)

Hahaha...to expensive for me! I like to keep the oldies stock but the collapsible adds value and portability.

Yup, great sights, easy to adjust using the rear only.

You Sir have good taste.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 02:48 PM (nUkMr)

244 Little known fact, but Musket Nutz were a popular accessory during the Revolutionary War.
Posted by: Insomniac

I didn't know that! And why aren't these available as an AR attachment???

Posted by: stace at November 19, 2017 02:48 PM (6HFDU)

245 repost - get a free book today!
link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 02:49 PM (hMwEB)

246 @236 Those are GLASER safety slugs.
If misspelling could keep you out of prison,
ah never mind. Insert punch line here.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at November 19, 2017 02:51 PM (H5rtT)

247 On the gun ownership and musket vs. "assault" rifle. The real question is do the Progressives believe that a women can kill a rapist. Can a single mom kill someone that kicks in her door? Can a dad shoot the ex-boyfriend beating on his daughter?
My guess is most Progs believe that only government (police) can come and stop a crime. As they can be taught to make (bad) judgement calls that let criminals survive an event they would not if a private individual decided to use their G-D given rights to stop a crime with deadly force. This also lets the local government to decide where to send police action (white gated communities) and where to let crime run rampant (the government projects). Imagine if Trump dropped cheap 45s and 9s in the mail to everyone in Chicago getting a WIC check. In Illinois that would be a 1.4 million new gun owners that could protect themselves.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 02:51 PM (BtQd4)

248 You Sir have good taste.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 19, 2017 02:48 PM (nUkMr)

Thanks and back at ya .

I have fairly broad tastes. ARs and AKs, Garands and carbines and many WW2-WW1 bolt actions. And various oddballs. Bit of a mix on the pistol side as well.

I thought the C93 would be a neat alternative to the usual suspects and a a good intro for the iconic AK "slap bolt". It's also interesting in that it has the same type action as a MG-42 which was neat. Part of the fun of owing guns is exploring the engineering and machining, IMO.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:54 PM (USf3s)

249

To celebrate the return of the Gun Thread:

"Target Practice & Searching for Treasure with Diggin Britt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXu9U3C9M8Q


God, I love America.

Posted by: Arbalest - GNAMM Survivor at November 19, 2017 02:55 PM (FlRtG)

250 Meant HK "slap bolt" of course.

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 02:56 PM (USf3s)

251 rhennigantx, I don't necessarily trust people with small children in the home to keep firearms away from small children.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at November 19, 2017 02:56 PM (FQKBL)

252 booknlass,

I have a smith and Wesson m and p shield 9mm. I really like that gun. I also have a sig sauer 380.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 19, 2017 02:59 PM (Ri/rl)

253 "Lewis and Clark never actually shot that airgun at anything alive, you know."

Actually, I don't and neither does anyone else unless you can find a log of every shot fired from the thing.

Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that the the leftists claim the Founding Fathers couldn't imagine repeating or rapid loading arms, (e.g., breech loaders like the Ferguson rifle), a claim which is sheer bollocks.

Posted by: Piers Rather, Ace Reporter at November 19, 2017 03:00 PM (BsuY/)

254 The founding fathers couldn't imagine modern medicine either.

Get shot in the torso in the 1700s with a rifle or musket ball, or in 2017 with a 5.56? Which is likely more deadly?

Posted by: Keith at November 19, 2017 03:03 PM (USf3s)

255 Imagine if Trump dropped cheap 45s and 9s in the mail to everyone in
Chicago getting a WIC check. In Illinois that would be a 1.4 million
new gun owners that could protect themselves.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 02:51 PM (BtQd4)

After that, we could give all the kids in the Chicago public schools iPads, which they would use for schoolwork.

Posted by: Monty James at November 19, 2017 03:03 PM (gKOMX)

256 Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that the the leftists claim the Founding Fathers couldn't imagine repeating or rapid loading arms, (e.g., breech loaders like the Ferguson rifle), a claim which is sheer bollocks.

The Redcoats used a tactic once they'd got their troops into place which amounted to the same thing. Front line shoots, second line aims, third line loads. Second line shoots, third line aims, first line reloads. Third line shoots . . .

It worked well enough to beat Louis XVI's Frogs most of the time.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 03:04 PM (4Olbg)

257 LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo
Another Dem family member b.s. shit-disturbing to attack Trump after having done them a favour like the SF Support SGT Johnson's family.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2017 03:05 PM (mJ8mX)

258 The squirrels in the backyard are taunting me to breakout the air rifle.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 03:06 PM (VDQek)

259 I have a smith and Wesson m and p shield 9mm. I really like that gun. I also have a sig sauer 380.

Posted by: CaliGirl
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*shakes in fear...not*

Posted by: The Ground Squirrel at November 19, 2017 03:07 PM (5OO3x)

260 No assault smoothbore should be without a bayonet

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:08 PM (aC6Sd)

261 Why, that's just crazy talk. NY? NJ?

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 02:41 PM (4ZKcy)

NJ

And it's about to get much worse. No mail-order ammo and even stricter restrictions on "assault rifles."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 03:08 PM (wYseH)

262 OT: whom the gods would destroy, they first make oppose Trump :

tinyurl.com/y7ljv3g6

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 03:09 PM (4Olbg)

263 "The founding fathers couldn't imagine modern medicine either."

And refrigeration.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 03:10 PM (VDQek)

264 Remington has extend their handgun rebates until 11/27.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2017 03:10 PM (60v4h)

265 zzzzZZZZzzzz

Posted by: J. Sessions Rockin' His Rocker at November 19, 2017 03:10 PM (r9UYA)

266 Someday maybe next week would like to see a poll on soft point or hard point bullets, I'm in the hard point side, use full jackets in my ready mag.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:10 PM (aC6Sd)

267 Anti-gunners can't actually do much, except got after ammunition in the ten or so Deep Blue States.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 03:12 PM (pV/54)

268 If my land acquisition plans work out, next year I'd like to possibly host a (free to a limited number of interested morons) introduction to precision long range rifle clinic in the Central Virginia area.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 03:12 PM (Sfs6o)

269
And it's about to get much worse. No mail-order ammo and even stricter restrictions on "assault rifles."


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 03:08 PM (wYseH)

Sorry to hear that CBD. Sheesh.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:12 PM (4ZKcy)

270
Imagine if Trump dropped cheap 45s and 9s in the mail to everyone in
Chicago getting a WIC check.


TrumpDoz

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 03:13 PM (IqV8l)

271 I'd love to have a Pickle Gun.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at November 19, 2017 12:27 PM (Gguds)

I'm sure it would be a dilly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 01:32 PM (oPNmq)
Britain's Gherkin mercenaries used them.



They quickly soured on them.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 19, 2017 03:14 PM (60v4h)

272 #256 Bing search for something like "volley fire versus platoon fire", boulder terlit hobo, and you'll find arguments that make crossbow vs. longbow mild by comparison!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2017 03:14 PM (mJ8mX)

273 43 XTPs, followed by 34 FMJ, for carry.

All XM193 for home defense.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2017 03:15 PM (tbOMB)

274
Do we have to have a background check to write a letter to the editor, a comment on the internet, go to church, buy a computer printer, speak at a town meeting, petition the government? Any other constitutional right?

Do I need to be on an approved person list to be free from having to quarter troops in my home, not be searched without a warrant, get a lawyer to defend me in court and get a jury trial?


Not yet

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2017 03:15 PM (IqV8l)

275 But firing square bullets can't be very accurate

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:16 PM (aC6Sd)

276 "The founding fathers couldn't imagine modern medicine either."

And refrigeration.
Posted by: X-ray

And TV! I mean, FDR pioneered TV Addresses back in the 30's!

Posted by: Joe Biden, The Man from Delaware at November 19, 2017 03:16 PM (S6Pax)

277 257 His little shit has a father AND brother who are millionaires and he STILL feels the need to be a thief

Posted by: MAxIE at November 19, 2017 03:16 PM (9TR2V)

278 Why do you need your nuts? They're different than a vag. I think we should ban your nuts.

Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:17 PM (Tyii7)

279 All XM193 for home defense.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 19, 2017 03:15 PM (tbOMB)

I have all HP for home defense in my pistol that I tragically lost in a boating accident.

I really don't like the idea of over-penetration.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 03:17 PM (wYseH)

280 #277 Black Privilege as star athletes they're above being hassled or paying a price for misdemeanors.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 19, 2017 03:18 PM (mJ8mX)

281 Just bought 3 places in AZ.
Open AND concealed carry walking down Main Street without a permit.
*Just like America!!!*

Posted by: MAxIE at November 19, 2017 03:18 PM (9TR2V)

282 >>I really don't like the idea of over-penetration.

There is no such thing.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at November 19, 2017 03:18 PM (2cuLk)

283 slickguns has the TC bolties for $189 after rebate

Posted by: MAxIE at November 19, 2017 03:19 PM (9TR2V)

284 ""The founding fathers couldn't imagine modern medicine either."

And refrigeration."

Don't sell them short in the imagination department, there were New England Ice Houses since 1806 that even shipped ice to the South and Caribbean.

Posted by: Piers Rather, Ace Reporter at November 19, 2017 03:20 PM (BsuY/)

285 Someday maybe next week would like to see a poll on soft point or hard point bullets, I'm in the hard point side, use full jackets in my ready mag.
Posted by: Skip

FWIW, some states do not allow fmj for deer hunting...

Posted by: mr brown at November 19, 2017 03:21 PM (3tkRx)

286 Wow, there are a lot of Low-T millennials in the commercials today.

Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:21 PM (Tyii7)

287 If you're looking for a musical break try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI

Wilson Pickett's Hey Jude backed by the Muscle Shoals Swampers with some unknown guy doing the guitar outro

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 19, 2017 03:21 PM (pV/54)

288 I've seen 3 manbuns so far and counting.

Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:22 PM (Tyii7)

289 Our government has been held in check re trying to restrict the second amendment, because people pay attention to that. Why couldn't they also have been paying attention to things like immigration, entitlements, etc.? It's obvious that people were dissatisfied with those as they were with gun control given the 2016 election, so I don't get why other political problems were allowed to fester as much as they did.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 03:22 PM (/qEW2)

290 I've seen 3 manbuns so far and counting.

Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:22 PM (Tyii7)

When was the last time you saw a normal looking American man in a commercial?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2017 03:23 PM (wYseH)

291 OT: Trump is not much of a turn-the-other-cheek-er:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Now that the three basketball players are out of China and saved from years in jail, LaVar Ball, the father of LiAngelo, is unaccepting of what I did for his son and that shoplifting is no big deal. I should have left them in jail!

10:42 AM - Nov 19, 2017
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'm Dreaming of a White Privilege at November 19, 2017 02:26 PM (Nwg0u)



The MFM is having the vapors over this. Fark them all especially LaVar

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 03:24 PM (SiINZ)

292 When was the last time you saw a normal looking American man in a commercial?

The Marlboro Man?

Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:24 PM (Tyii7)

293 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 03:22 PM (/qEW2)


Because we pay for their armed protection. They have no incentive to protect us rubes.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:25 PM (4ZKcy)

294 Anybody ever see the photo of Dr Ruth, and her sniper rifle?

I swear it's a Mosin Nagant.

Just can't find the photo right now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 03:25 PM (EyPfd)

295 208
Insomn, I tried to leave Illinois, but I almost died of depression, missing home and family.

not everybody here's down with the idiotic socialism of Chicago or the corruption in Springfield.

(but there are too many progressives all around for my taste.)

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 03:26 PM (9mZIr)

296 I cast some bullets made of plumbing solder,they are virtually non lead, lighter than lead by 1/4 oz and harder. Out of a smoothbore they were no different that I could tell but suspect the muzzle velocity was higher.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:27 PM (aC6Sd)

297 VIA, this one?

http://tinyurl.com/ydxlujg4


Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:28 PM (4ZKcy)

298 Wouldn't doubt Dr Ruth carries a Walker Colt as a side arm

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:29 PM (aC6Sd)

299 >>> 268 If my land acquisition plans work out, next year I'd like to possibly host a (free to a limited number of interested morons) introduction to precision long range rifle clinic in the Central Virginia area.
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 03:12 PM (Sfs6o)

Whaaaat?!

*bounces excitedly*

Say when!!! ... and personally I would be happy to pay / help offset expenses / provide bacon / well, something or other to help out.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2017 03:29 PM (VyLpy)

300 I cast some bullets made of plumbing solder
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:27 PM (aC6Sd)
This should be in the Moron Handbook. God, I love you guys.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 03:30 PM (14URa)

301 Peaches, booknlass is in the market. Someone suggested something similar to "fluffy".

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:33 PM (4ZKcy)

302 I think I got that in the correct order. Rough night last night.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:34 PM (4ZKcy)

303 If the EPA under President Hillary outlawed lead as Barak wanted to one needed a backup plan

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:35 PM (aC6Sd)

304 299 >>> 268 If my land acquisition plans work out, next year I'd like to possibly host a (free to a limited number of interested morons) introduction to precision long range rifle clinic in the Central Virginia area.
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 03:12 PM (Sfs6o)

Whaaaat?!

*bounces excitedly*

Say when!!! ... and personally I would be happy to pay / help offset expenses / provide bacon / well, something or other to help out.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2017 03:29 PM (VyLpy)
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I'm thinking about maybe a day and a half for 4 or 5 shooters at a time. Half day in the classroom and a full day on the range.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 03:35 PM (Sfs6o)

305 " VIA, this one?"

Yes.


That's the one I was thinking of.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 03:37 PM (EyPfd)

306 I've seen 3 manbuns so far and counting.


Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:22 PM (Tyii7)


Where? Is it a place we can nuke from orbit?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Divison at November 19, 2017 03:37 PM (aMlLZ)

307 I remember collecting lead curtain weights back in the 70s for reloading. The only die I had was for 30cal. But it was fun to sit at the fireplace with a propane torch, melt lead and cast bullets.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 03:37 PM (VDQek)

308 Peaches, booknlass is in the market. Someone suggested something similar to "fluffy".


Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:33 PM (4ZKcy)
I dunno, I'm pretty ignorant about this stuff. In fact, I kinda wish I'd gone for a 9mm instead of the wheel gun. Good friend just got a Glock 17, gen 4, although I don't think that fapper has actually shot it yet. But it looks great, gonna check it out. The only advice I can give booknlass is to get something that feels good in your hand. Being chicks, we need a smaller grip to be comfortable.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 03:38 PM (14URa)

309 "Democrat-run shitholes"


Stylebook violation: Should be "DemonRat".

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2017 03:38 PM (bz8LN)

310 Am I living in an alternative dimension when no one, but no one suggested lever actions to supplement the long gun arsenal of someone who already owns a 30-06?

I love lever guns (have one in 30-30, the Marlin XLR variant of its 336) and a sweet, old (JM stamped) 357 lever.
Such iconic guns, and fun, and practical as well.

The 357 lever is, as well as a capable close range hunter, an excellent olde schoole tactical weapon (high capacity, very handy and easy to get on target offhand). Also very fun at the range. I'm still working out some front sight issues on my 30-30 to get it properly zeroed with a peep. Also, you can't help but feel like John Wayne when you snap out a few with the lever gun.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 19, 2017 03:39 PM (W/SyC)

311 Insomn, I tried to leave Illinois, but I almost died of depression, missing home and family.

not everybody here's down with the idiotic socialism of Chicago or the corruption in Springfield.

(but there are too many progressives all around for my taste.)
Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 03:26 PM (9mZIr)




Illinois is drowning because of the leftists, FSA and unions.
Illinois Republicans in Springfield take Vichy Republican to a whole other level

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2017 03:40 PM (SiINZ)

312 Nothing wrong with a revolver, it's more reliable and earlier to clean to me

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:40 PM (aC6Sd)

313 I mentioned that. The guys recommended she try some out first. Tragically, the .38 special that fit my had perfectly, was lost in a boating accident.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 03:40 PM (4ZKcy)

314 DJT fights back. That is his nature.

An earlier me might have parsed his words to think if I could have said something better, but now... screw LaVar Ball.

LaVar's very name is sissy and ridiculous. Small wonder he knows nothing about parenting since his parents were stupid too.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 03:41 PM (4Olbg)

315 I disagree with the revolver/pistol binary choice premise. Get both!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 03:41 PM (Sfs6o)

316 I really don't like the idea of over-penetration.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


That's what SHE said!

Posted by: Michael Scott! at November 19, 2017 03:43 PM (S6Pax)

317 Okay, booknlass, go to your local firearms dealer and try out a Ruger SP 101. It's a .357 that shoots .38s. Fits pretty nice in the hand. Pull is a little stiff. But I'm confident that it would do the job I bought it for and hope to never need.

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 03:44 PM (14URa)

318 I disagree with the revolver/pistol binary choice premise. Get both!

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 03:41 PM (Sfs6o)

Good I don't know which I would have gotten rid of.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 03:44 PM (VDQek)

319 I doubt that picture is Dr. Ruth. She was a sniper in the Haganah. That uniform looks Russian. More likely she would have had an Enfield or Mauser.

I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at November 19, 2017 03:44 PM (1ouh3)

320 It's handy to have both

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:45 PM (aC6Sd)

321 Lever guns...

Until that unfortunate canoeing thing I had my father's Winchester 94 in .30/30. The serial number indicates it was made in 1949, Dad would have been 18, Mom speculates that it was a high school graduation present from his well-to-do uncle.

It's part of what I loved about firearms before my love for firearms went canoeing that horrific day.

It's wood and metal from almost 70 years ago, on a design from 120+ years ago, which would, were I a better canoeist, work perfectly as designed today.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 03:46 PM (gIRsn)

322 I remember collecting lead curtain weights back in the 70s for reloading. The only die I had was for 30cal. But it was fun to sit at the fireplace with a propane torch, melt lead and cast bullets.
Posted by: X-ray

I've melted scrap lead for doing rust repairs on a car. Be careful. It is very easy to get sick from inhaling lead fumes from molten lead. Only do that in some place that is well ventilated.

I am not kidding. You can get very sick from inhaling lead fumes from molten lead.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 19, 2017 03:47 PM (S6Pax)

323 Thanks Peaches! I will. and thanks everybody for the help.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 03:48 PM (9mZIr)

324 I think I've pitched this before here but IMHO, the Smith n Wesson 686 may be one of the best firearms ever produced.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 19, 2017 03:49 PM (Tyii7)

325 My carry gun when I visit daughter and family in the northside of Chicago is a S&W model 36 loaded with +P frangible loads. No ejected casings to pick up, no possible ballistic info to identify. 3 to the chest and 1 to the head, walk away calmly, go back to her home and wash hands thoroughly after cleaning gun. If it happens at my house in the country, I have a neighbor with a small swine herd who does not turn down free feed should that be necessary.

Posted by: colfax mingo at November 19, 2017 03:49 PM (0n18S)

326 booknlass, here's a little rundown on the SP101. I also saw one that called it the "perfect first gun." You're still gonna want to spend some range time and get comfortable with it, as with anything you acquire.

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/ruger-sp-101-rugers-kit-gun-wallop/

Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 03:50 PM (14URa)

327 Ignoramus, I trust you were being facetious re "some unknown guy" on guitar. That outro put Duane Allman on the radar of some big machers in the music business (Jerry Wexler et al) and also brought him to Clapton's attention, which led to Allman playing on the "Layla" album.

But I'll bet you knew all that.

Posted by: Cowboyneal - the other Jewish carpenter at November 19, 2017 03:50 PM (k2KmM)

328 @321
May your canoeing ponds remain deep and your Dad's zombie Winchester, in body and/or spirit, continue to be passed on to your sons and daughters.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 19, 2017 03:51 PM (W/SyC)

329 My lever action that was lost in the canoe tipping indecent was a .308 Sako Finnwolf.

Posted by: X-ray at November 19, 2017 03:53 PM (VDQek)

330 @325
I sue you cocksucker for infringement of trade!

Posted by: Mr Wu at November 19, 2017 03:53 PM (W/SyC)

331 Mr Wu,

Huh?

Posted by: colfax mingo at November 19, 2017 03:55 PM (0n18S)

332 It was always in demand but now there are dozens of 9mm carbine brands out there that accept Glock mags.

Now I just have to decide which one I am going to get .

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 19, 2017 03:55 PM (2DOZq)

333 think I've pitched this before here but IMHO, the Smith n Wesson 686 may be one of the best firearms ever produced.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 19, 2017 03:49 PM (Tyii7)

Is that the .45 revolver?

Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 19, 2017 03:57 PM (2DOZq)

334 Why do you need freedom? That's different than being a commie.

Posted by: Stephanie Ruhle at November 19, 2017 03:59 PM (Tyii7)

335 Is that the .45 revolver?
Posted by: Roc Ingersol at November 19, 2017 03:57 PM (2DOZq)


.38/.357

Posted by: hogmartin at November 19, 2017 03:59 PM (y87Qq)

336 nood

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2017 04:00 PM (4ZKcy)

337 333 .357 I believe.

I love my 629. .44 Magnum. Do you feel lucky, punk?

Posted by: Johnny at November 19, 2017 04:00 PM (kUotE)

338 "Pointing to them is a poor counter to a stupid argument."

No, the argument is not whether they were practical (though Lewis and Clark and the Austrian Army might argue the point), but whether the Founding Fathers could have imagined them.
Posted by: Piers Rather, Ace Reporter at November 19, 2017 02:42 PM (BsuY/)


And there is the patent office for those things they could not imagine, because if they could imagine them they would have them already.

Patents were not unheard of in those days, even without the then rapidly evolving technology. So, yes, the founders knew ways to protect even things they could not imagine.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 19, 2017 04:00 PM (IWbvi)

339 331 Mr Wu,

Huh?
Posted by: colfax mingo at November 19, 2017 03:55 PM (0n18S)

Gotta be a reference to the tv show Deadwood. One of the characters repeatedly disposed of problems by feeding them to Mr. Wu's pigs.

Posted by: The 'splainin guy at November 19, 2017 04:01 PM (tMFgx)

340 Is that the .45 revolver?

.357 Mag

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 19, 2017 04:01 PM (Tyii7)

341 I have decided to get the Beretta APX in 9mm, Beretta is offering three extra mags and a holster to sweeten the deal.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (0OmEj)

342 Aquila Mini-shells
I just got some from Selway Armory, but they were'nt cheap - a buck a round.
They have slugs for around 70 cents

Posted by: Last at November 19, 2017 04:16 PM (8HiDF)

343 'Aquila Mini-shells
I just got some from Selway Armory, but they were'nt cheap - a buck a round.'

Thank Yew!!

*Toddles off to the inner webs*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 19, 2017 04:20 PM (EyPfd)

344 228,
"I am in a state that makes possession of hollow point or soft point rounds pretty much worse than Hitler."


Then if over penetration is an issue either Federal Guard-Dog or Corbon silver or blue. If wall penetration is not an issue then Underwood/Lehigh Extreme Defender or Fort Scott's Fort Defense both of which are solid copper but designed to interact with flesh to dump their energy rapidly and not over penetrate a person but they will zip through walls, car doors and clothes etc.

I use the Underwood +P Extreme Defender for .38 special. I'm a long ways from any neighbors and don't have to worry about people in other rooms at night. Underwood's 147 grain gold dots +P+ in 9mm winter and the 124 grain +P for summer. I haven't had enough time to test the solid copper ones in my 9mms to trust them to feed well yet. Worked so far but I know the gold dots will work 100%.

Posted by: geoffb at November 19, 2017 04:21 PM (zOpu5)

345 After nearly getting sideswiped by a Humvee, I looked up specs on interstate lanes. Turns out the dimensions for the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways were made with the Atomic Cannon in mind. 16.5 feet minimum height for all non-urban overpasses.

Posted by: Downcast at November 19, 2017 04:29 PM (kc/+W)

346 Weasel,
As long as you have room to park my trashy old motor home.

To the person looking for a feral hog shooting experience check out Ox Ranch in Uvalde, TX, just west of San Antonio. Spendy but looks awesome. Check out the tank and .50 cal experience....
https://www.oxhuntingranch.com

Posted by: lin-duh at November 19, 2017 04:31 PM (kufk0)

347 Weasel, the coumidin is a blood thinner and can leave you prone to bruising which can cause other problems. Haven't decided if I will use it or not but if I do, a recoil pad would be smart. It might also add to the LOP which would help. Even full sized battle rifles feel short.

Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 04:33 PM (V+03K)

348 Posted by: JTB at November 19, 2017 04:33 PM (V+03K)
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Yep. I take Eliquis and it hasn't been a problem so maybe that's an option for you.

Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2017 05:00 PM (Sfs6o)

349 AP: Official says Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe - who had vowed to rule until death - to resign after 37 years in power.

That's a shame, but there's still time for him to keep his promise.

Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2017 05:00 PM (Sv2/X)

350 The story involving a malfunction and misfire is too long to get into but the punch line is "my son harvested a very nice 10 point with my Kimber .45 1911 Raptor this week" dropped him in a single shot!

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at November 19, 2017 05:13 PM (USAOW)

351 Late to the party but glad we has gun thread.

I spent yesterday at the range practicing 50 foot shots. I shot my S&W model 10 and was pleasantly surprised. I shot my G36, which is much smaller and was shocked at how small my groups were with it.

My G21 did fine but I could really feel the difference in trigger pull compared to the G36 (which I bought used, the previous owner did a trigger job). The sights were off a bit, but I'm getting a 3.5 pound connector put in and the sights readjusted in a couple hours.

Oh and Magtech ammo is dirty, messy stuff. Avoid it, morons. Sellier and Bellot is much better.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 19, 2017 05:58 PM (xJa6I)

352 Here in WI the White-Tail Deer Gun season is next weekend

Say WHAT? Makes most of my in-laws into criminals yesterday already!!

Posted by: dad29 at November 19, 2017 05:59 PM (7Kti7)

353 341 I have decided to get the Beretta APX in 9mm, Beretta is offering three extra mags and a holster to sweeten the deal.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at November 19, 2017 04:02 PM (0OmEj)

You should be happy with it. Most review are positive enough. But take a look at the MAC review on the youtube, just in case you take it into rough environments.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 19, 2017 06:01 PM (xJa6I)

354 326 booknlass, here's a little rundown on the SP101. I also saw one that called it the "perfect first gun." You're still gonna want to spend some range time and get comfortable with it, as with anything you acquire.

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/ruger-sp-101-rugers-kit-gun-wallop/
Posted by: Peaches at November 19, 2017 03:50 PM (14URa)

Load .38's in that to start with. I've fired that gun a lot and light weight, lack of a slide and .357 magnum rounds equal a lot of discomfort. My wife won't even touch it after just one range visit with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 19, 2017 06:05 PM (xJa6I)

355 A canon attached to a riding mower

Episcopalian or Catholic canon?

The one I'd attach would be a cannon.

Posted by: dad29 at November 19, 2017 06:05 PM (7Kti7)

356 But firing square bullets can't be very accurate

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 03:16 PM (aC6Sd)

Perhaps from a square barrel with a twist in it, to make the bullet spin?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 19, 2017 06:12 PM (oPNmq)

357 I'm sure it would be a dilly.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon





It would be sweet.
Posted by Rick

I'd relish that.

Posted by: dad29 at November 19, 2017 06:16 PM (7Kti7)

358 Saw a review of the SandW* 986 9mm 7-sh0t with the 2.5-inch barrel, and it looks sweet. It appears that there are lots more makers of moon-clips than there used to be. Any of you who sh00t autoloader rounds in revolvers have experience with the various makes of moon clips?

*Not even going to try an ampersand.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at November 19, 2017 06:28 PM (9asJl)

359
FYI, regarding Thompson / Center bolt action rifles, there was a recall due to safety failure.

The article I read (can't find the link) said the fix was to increase the strength of the trigger springs, thereby defeating the adjustable trigger pull feature and the MOA accuracy of the original trigger settings.

Might explain the generous rebates.

Posted by: Frankly at November 19, 2017 07:51 PM (O9xXt)

360 " Imagine if Trump dropped cheap 45s and 9s in the mail to everyone in Chicago getting a WIC check. In Illinois that would be a 1.4 million new gun owners that could protect themselves.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 02:51 PM (BtQd4)"


I like it !

Revive the Liberator pistol !

Seriously, this would be my great foreign policy initiative if I were Galactic Overlord.
Stealth bombers dropping canisters of Liberators by night, all over the world.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at November 19, 2017 07:54 PM (Ktb8D)

361 It isn't that reporters aren't qualified to talk about guns. For the most part, reporters aren't qualified to talk about ANYTHING. Is there even a subject that you know about where reporters don't get several of the pertinent details wrong, sometimes to the point of being exactly wrong?

Pretty much the only reporter that can be moderately counted on to actually know his business is the weather forecaster.

Posted by: DaveM at November 19, 2017 09:18 PM (FNtbC)

362 Just an old timey reliable Glock 19 is enough for me. 15 in the mag, one in the chamber, and a spare mag in the other pocket makes 31.

Posted by: Looking out the churchdoor window. at November 19, 2017 09:26 PM (fSf/G)

363 Pretty much the only reporter that can be moderately counted on to actually know his business is the weather forecaster.
Posted by: DaveM

Climate Change! Glowball Warming!!#!

Posted by: Weather Channel at November 19, 2017 09:29 PM (3tkRx)

364 Load .38's in that to start with. I've fired that gun a lot and light weight, lack of a slide and .357 magnum rounds equal a lot of discomfort. My wife won't even touch it after just one range visit with it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I carry this weapon for the pure ferocious blast of 5 hot rounds of 158 gr .357 hollowpoint, to take down a 6ft 4in 300lb drugged out monster. This is a true hand cannon.

A woman-hand sized pink singlestack wonder 9 doesn't fill the bill.

Posted by: realistically speaking, why do you carry? at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (3tkRx)

365 364 Load .38's in that to start with. I've fired that gun a lot and light weight, lack of a slide and .357 magnum rounds equal a lot of discomfort. My wife won't even touch it after just one range visit with it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I carry this weapon for the pure ferocious blast of 5 hot rounds of 158 gr .357 hollowpoint, to take down a 6ft 4in 300lb drugged out monster. This is a true hand cannon.

A woman-hand sized pink singlestack wonder 9 doesn't fill the bill.
Posted by: realistically speaking, why do you carry? at November 19, 2017 09:45 PM (3tkRx)

Well the wife prefers the XD45. If you can fire it accurately and train with it, cool.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 19, 2017 10:39 PM (xJa6I)

Sunday Morning Book Thread: 11/19/2017

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Stuttgart City Library

Last week I mentioned the feel and the weight and the effortless browsing capacity of a printed and bound dictionary being an integral part of the experience. And that prompted this week's question; What other reference books are best in the old-fashioned bound format, and which ones do you have floating around your desk or dining room table or bathroom or wherever you do your best work?

I have Bartlett's Familiar Quotations within arm's length, because it is tremendously useful not only as the obvious reference for who said what, but also as a glimpse into the time of the quotation in question. For instance, I recently looked up Franklin's famous but unfortunately apocryphal quotation about beer, and that led me to Samuel Johnson which led me to a great quotation from David Hume....

Avarice, the spur of industry.

And that led me to a few pages away, where John Adams makes a point that is lost on our foolish liberal friends...
Fear is the foundation of most governments.

[Why yes, I am using the word "quotation" correctly. It is a noun. The word "quote" is a verb. Harrumph!]

I have a few science books (Oooh...Molecular Biology! Yes, I am a geek), and my statistics textbook that is surprisingly useful in the oddest situations. I long ago forgot how to do statistical calculations much beyond the probability of dice rolls, but it is useful to have that nearby so I can refresh my memory.

I have misplaced my copy of The Elements Of Style, by Strunk And White, so I have no idea on which side of the Oxford Comma Wars they fight.

The internet is such a quick and often marvelous source that we sometimes forget that it isn't always accurate! Yes, I know...try to tell that to anyone younger than 40 and they will look at you as if you had three heads and were belching fire. So having a few time-honored reference books floating around isn't such a bad idea.

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It is fast approaching that time of the year, when you weird Christian folk rush around, madly seeking just the perfect gift for 17 wildly different people, and we weird Jewish folk copy you and do pretty much the same thing, although on a smaller scale.

I love giving books for two reasons. The first and most obvious one is that they are really easy to wrap. The second is that even if the recipient isn't immediately thrilled beyond measure that you got him The Faerie Queene in the original typeface, it might just grow on him, because books have a way of doing just that.

Here's my incomplete list of books that I have given more than once, although as far as I can remember, never to the same person. I'm sure I have mentioned all of them on the blog or the comments, so they may be familiar.

Snow In August is Pete Hammill's best work. Push past the fact that he is an unrepentant liberal and rejoice in his marvelous writing and beautiful and touching storytelling.

The Storm Of War is, in my humble and amateurish opinion, the best history of World War II. Well-written, meticulously researched, and with enough detail to please even the most knowledgeable of us.

City Of Thieves A perfect short novel that is almost fantasy, but not quite.

Balthazar Cookbook Yeah, I had to throw in a cookbook. It's filled with classic recipes that are obviously reduced from the restaurant's kitchen reference, but work very well for the home cook. Cookbooks don't get much better than this.

Agincourt Historically accurate, easy to read, a rollicking good story, and the good guys win in the end. You can't beat it!

So now it's your turn. What books do you love to give as gifts?

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1 I am still working on the Honor Harrington series re-read. On Book 6 now. But I downloaded book 1 of the Thpmas Covenant series this week when Amazon had it on sale for 0.99. I think I will hit that nex and then go back to David Weber.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 08:57 AM (mpXpK)

2 A very orderly library. Like an Ikea library.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 08:58 AM (qJtVm)

3 I still have a bunch of dead tree reference books but I never use them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

4 I don't give books as gifts. I will give an Amazon gift certificate so they can pick their own.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at November 19, 2017 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

5 Hey, my home town library. Leave to us Germans to make a library as sterile as an operating room.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 09:02 AM (/tuJf)

6 Perennial gift books include nice hardbacks of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, big art or fashion books, and collections of maps. Visual feasts that leave you craving the hundredth helping.

I also like to peruse used book stores for 19th Century versions of favorite classics with period illustrations.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:03 AM (qJtVm)

7 Harrumph!]

We got a Harrumph outa that guy !

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2017 09:03 AM (TZagw)

8 Finally read News of the World. Excellent, excellent. Would make such a great movie except you know they would ruin it. Wanted to lend my kindle copy to someone but apparently they no longer offer that service, ended up just buying it for them.
Also read Rumer Godden's book China Court, which was an Amazon special this week. She is such a fine writer and that was a lovely book, although possibly of more interest to the ladies.
Planning to get the third Brian Sanderson book, Oathbringers, but maybe not until after Thanksgiving. Lots to do the next few days. Happy Thanksgiving one and all, don't forget to save some turkey for soup!

Posted by: Miss Sippi at November 19, 2017 09:05 AM (5fPhA)

9 I have literally dozens of Bible commentaries. The one I use most is a single-book commentary put out by the faculty of Moody Bible Institute named, oddly enough, The Moody Bible Commentary. I like it because I can find lots of things in one book. If I need something more thorough, I can go to commentaries on each individual book of the Bible. My favorite for that is the complete New Testament series by John MacCarthur. I think there are 33 volumes in that set.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 19, 2017 09:05 AM (lwiT4)

10 I read Bugles and a Tiger: My Life in the Gurkhas by John Masters. This is the first book of a trilogy about his time spent in the British and Indian Armies before, during, and after WW2. This one takes place prior to WW2. In 1933 at age 18 he was accepted at Sandhurst Royal Military College for officer training, where it seems they had adopted some of the Spartan's way of training their boys for hoplite duty; Don't Get Caught! Prior to joining the 4th Gurkha Rifles he, like all British officer candidates, was vetted by the Gurkhas in the unit. This usually involved getting the candidate drunk. In Vino Veritas, latin for In Wine There is Truth. During a military campaign in Waziristan (in present day Pakistan) against Pathan tribesmen (moslems) their ROE were almost identical to our military today.

A fasinating, educational, and often funny read.

In addition to having wickedly cool knives, called kukri, those Gurkhas were and still are some bad mamajammas.

For your listening pleasure.

Kingston Trio-Hangman
https://youtu.be/db8MJ2HHPEY

AC/DC-Thunderstruck
https://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM

Royal Scots Dragoon Guards-The Gael
https://youtu.be/BR-csWS1bcM

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at November 19, 2017 09:05 AM (Kfmqy)

11 I don't like that library. Libraries should have comfy chairs and smell like oldness.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 19, 2017 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

12 Yay Book thread!!!

thanks CBD!

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:07 AM (hMwEB)

13 That's a lovely bound edition of National Pornographic in the photo.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 09:07 AM (ANIFC)

14 A very orderly library. Like an Ikea library.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

For the life of me, I don't understand the crazy popularity of Ikea. I was told by a European "friend" how wonderful it is, and how stupid Americans were for not embracing it sooner.
Whatever. I see it as cold, sterile low price junk.

That library in Stuttgart, looks like a real fun place.
Not!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at November 19, 2017 09:07 AM (S6Pax)

15 The Storm Of War is, in my humble and amateurish opinion, the best history of World War II.

I'm currently reading "A Bridge Too Far" by
Cornelius Ryan, and the movie didn't come close to describing this battle.

Posted by: JT at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (TZagw)

16 Speaking of books, get a free novel today - link in nic

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (hMwEB)

17 Ah. The Stuttgart Sterile school of architecture. Edgy, yet elegant in it's cold sparseness. A nice departure from those stodgy old designs which strove to exude the bourgeois values of warmth, comfort, and artful visual appeal.

I approve.

Posted by: I.M. Pei at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (5OO3x)

18 I prefer both history and technical books in hardcopy format, since it allows you to quickly flip back and forth between sections for comparison purposes. For example, illustrated histories showing the same scene/area in different time periods, programming books showing progressively more complex coding techniques, or auto maintenance manuals showing different perspectives of the same procedure.

Posted by: Rusty Bill at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (HBMMh)

19 Listening to the second book of The History of the English Speaking People by Churchill. Having just finished Of Plymouth Plantation, at Inspector Cussword's recommendation, the differences were interesting when Churchill got to that bit. Naturally, he was mostly mentioning the events in passing since they were a mere detail to his focus on events in England at the time.

I had never consciously realized that the Pilgrims were at the time of the English Civil War until listening to Plantation and Churchill considered the English Government's distraction an inability to help the settlers at a critical time be a big part of what led to the eventual split.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:09 AM (rp9xB)

20 Praise you, Vic, for eschewing that stupid "First!" ego stroke.

In regard to books, my wife came up with the idea of getting a book for each member of the family, to be left on beds Christmas night. She did the "pillow book" selection for the kids, leaving only her book for me to buy. I don't do well with choosing gifts, so she is usually disappointed. But I keep trying.

My brother-in-law has been heavily interested in the Civil War, so for years we would get him yet another book on that subject.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 19, 2017 09:10 AM (VQjk/)

21 Oh, Moron Rolf Nelson has a new book!

"Heretics of St Possenti," a prequel to "The
Stars Came Back."

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077CVXWVP

He says it's "About the founding of an order of monks... with guns!"


Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:10 AM (hMwEB)

22 11 I don't like that library. Libraries should have comfy chairs and smell like oldness.

Posted by: grammie winger - maranatha at November 19, 2017 09:06 AM (lwiT4)

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but we also offer insurance quotes. we're very competitive!

Posted by: Flo at November 19, 2017 09:12 AM (vChNs)

23 17 Ah. The Stuttgart Sterile school of architecture. Edgy, yet elegant in it's cold sparseness. A nice departure from those stodgy old designs which strove to exude the bourgeois values of warmth, comfort, and artful visual appeal.

I approve.
Posted by: I.M. Pei at November 19, 2017 09:08 AM (5OO3x)

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you mey vithdral ONE book. But first you must touch my monkey!

Posted by: Dieter at November 19, 2017 09:14 AM (vChNs)

24

All that library needs is people walking around in 1970 pop clothing and HAL 9000's glowing eyes everywhere to make it look like something out of Roddenberry's Genesis II.

Ugh.

Posted by: In Vino Verits at November 19, 2017 09:15 AM (t3kPl)

25
On a classical music blog I used to visit, a tired, old comment was made, "Greed is no basis for an economy." I replied, "It's better then envy." Talk about getting someone riled. I felt like I had been on vacation for three weeks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 19, 2017 09:15 AM (efrrf)

26 I feel like that library should have a milk bar, furniture in the shape of naked people, and Moog synthesizer muzik piped through the sound system.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (qJtVm)

27 I've been working my way through a massive P.G. Wodehouse collection. At first I made the mistake of listening to the stories consecutively but he reuses a lot of character names and "types" in his, I assume, earlier works so now I intersperse them with old(ish) mysteries by Mary Stewart, Patricia Wentworth, etc.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (rp9xB)

28 leaving only her book for me to buy. I don't do well with choosing gifts, so she is usually disappointed. But I keep trying.

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the kama sutra is always a tasteful choice

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (vChNs)

29 Wouldn't want to be a cleaning lady at that library. I wonder if you have to take your shoes off before entering.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (HiDrR)

30 >>I feel like that library should have a milk bar, furniture in the shape of naked people, and Moog synthesizer muzik piped through the sound system.

Don't forget the beer, pretzels and sausage stand.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2017 09:18 AM (/tuJf)

31 My favorite book to give as a gift for the past few years has been Nourishing Traditions. It's a cookbook and nutritional advice explaining why butter is good for you, that animal fats are better than polyunsaturated fats, and that we should all consume more bone broth. It's a lifesaver, and I think everyone I know who gets presents from me has gotten it at this point. Except for my children, who have just left the nest. They're next.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at November 19, 2017 09:18 AM (IbzI6)

32 26 I feel like that library should have a milk bar, furniture in the shape of naked people, and Moog synthesizer muzik piped through the sound system.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:16 AM (qJtVm)


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so long as it is playing the Ludwig Van...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 09:18 AM (vChNs)

33 I have a Random House dictionary that must weight ... wait, let me check ...yes, weighs fourteen pounds and has collapsed a set of bookshelves. I can't use it because how do you look up the proper spelling of a word when you can't spell it? Google! The Dictionary also cam with a CD for use on Windows 1.0. I doubt the CD will run on anything now.

I also have the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" because I had a copy in high school and learned to use the log tables. The modern edition doesn't have log tables. You can't get printed log tables because every computer in the world will compute logarithms as you need them, assuming you have electricity.

I also have a hard copy edition of the ARRL Antenna Book, haven't opened it in years. And I have a modestly large thesaurus which I use occasionally. (Also have a handy pocket sized paperback. )

I have also forgotten everything technical I had ever learned. Can't do anything with any of those books anymore.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 19, 2017 09:19 AM (4XCge)

34 Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at November 19, 2017 09:10 AM (hMwEB)

I really enjoyed The Stars Came Back and there is certainly plenty of backstory to fill in. On the "monks with guns" front, the kids really enjoyed the bit of Extra Credit History about Japan before the closure. It was news to me as well.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:19 AM (rp9xB)

35 and that we should all consume more bone broth.

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you misspelled Whiskey

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at November 19, 2017 09:20 AM (vChNs)

36 It does look like a habitat for Flo.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:22 AM (hMwEB)

37 I finished Dead Mans' Walk by Larry McMurty and am a third of the way through Comanche Moon. Am I the only one that finds Augustus McCrae to be thoroughly unlikable?

Posted by: Son of Sam the Butcher at November 19, 2017 09:22 AM (VJBq9)

38 I have misplaced my copy of The Elements Of Style, by Strunk And White, so I have no idea on which side of the Oxford Comma Wars they fight.


That is one of the few truly important issues on which I've changed my mind. I generally cling to what I was taught growing up as "right" in the "established in the firmament" sense of inherently and eternally correct.

But the Oxford comma is too useful to neglect.

I have cast off the burden of my miseducation. I am free. My being is lightened.

I embrace the Oxford comma.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:22 AM (gIRsn)

39 Those blue couches look like tidy bowl cakes.

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (9TU00)

40 Oh yeah, what I'm reading. Mostly just finishing odds and ends. Frank Herbert's "Under Pressure", Jack Williamson's "The Green Girl", plus whatever's in arm's length from my eerily comfortable reading chaise lounge.

Also checked out "Star Wars Stormtroopers: Beyond the Armor", which looks fun.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (qJtVm)

41 I like Ikea. The assemble-it- yourself aspect appeals to me. And I like cheap.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (hMwEB)

42 For those with herniatic tomes, I suggest a plinth. It looks great next to your marble bust of Catullus and your crystal decanter set in the hollow globe.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:25 AM (qJtVm)

43 41 I like Ikea. The assemble-it- yourself aspect appeals to me. And I like cheap.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:23 AM (hMwEB)

I have a 4x4 unit of their cube Kallax shelves which serves as a room divider & bookcase.

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 09:25 AM (ANIFC)

44 I actually get a faint urine smell looking at the library. Not, the strong urine smell you get at most public libraries.

Posted by: Jean at November 19, 2017 09:26 AM (9TU00)

45 Hello, fellow Book Threadists!

I've been traveling, so less time on the book thread but more time to read. Plane rides are made so much better by Kindle. I got through Heinlein's Starman Jones and Changeling's Island by Dave Freer while bouncing around different airports.

And I'm on a Heyer kick. Hell of a genre shift, right? But they're wonderful books- funny and light and you know the good guys are going to win. Sylvester is a great homage to Pride and Prejudice, which is one of my favorite books. Highly recommended.

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 09:26 AM (obZ4W)

46 Ikea ... there is a certain appeal to their goods, although most of the furniture that is just veneer over pressed sawdust will not wear well, and is heavy as heck. The kitchenware which I have bought from them is pretty good quality - maybe a titch better than what is at Walmart. I believe Ikea's biggest appeal is to people who can only afford Walmart, but are social snobs and wouldn't be caught dead in the place.

As for gifts - I do believe firmly in giving books as gifts - to children. Yes, I am THAT aunt to my nieces and nephews; they get books for Christmas, and no whining about whatever toy of the season they would rather have. I have given copies of my own books which are suitable (Truckee's Trail and Lone Star Sons, mostly) books which I read as a kid and loved - The Borrowers, the Little House books, The Hobbit, etc. The nephew who is not advancing well as a reader has been getting those lovely illustrated books by Holling C. Holling. The oldest niece has graduated to vintage historical novels.

When my daughter was small, she had a volume of nursery rhymes "B.B. Blacksheep & Company" - with illustrations by Nick Butterworth. I think I got it via an English catalog; it was an utterly charming book. Later I found a stack of copies at a discount place, and bought eight or ten copies, to give as birthday presents - that's the only book I have consistently given as presents.

We have released the fifth Luna City chronicle this week - and for the remainder of the month, the first Luna City book (The Chronicles of Luna City) is available on Kindle for .99. Can I beg of everyone who has read the Luna City books and enjoyed them for a review? Rack up so many reviews on Amazon, and Amazon does make books with many reviews more visible to the public.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 19, 2017 09:27 AM (xnmPy)

47 >>Libraries should have comfy chairs and smell like oldness.

I'm half way there.

Posted by: Hillary at November 19, 2017 09:29 AM (2cuLk)

48 Architectural Graphic Standards

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at November 19, 2017 09:29 AM (lKEuo)

49 And, on topic, I really like dead tree reference books, unless I'm searching for one tiny little detail, like the year that King Whatshisname died or synonyms for 'hopeful'. The internet's useful for that, but for long stretches of reading to get the feel of a culture, nothing beats a normal book.

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 09:31 AM (obZ4W)

50
Those Stuttgart City bastards stole my design!!!

Posted by: M.C. Escher at November 19, 2017 09:31 AM (9q7Dl)

51 I also have the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" because I had a copy in high school and learned to use the log tables. The modern edition doesn't have log tables. You can't get printed log tables because every computer in the world will compute logarithms as you need them, assuming you have electricity.

I have also forgotten everything technical I had ever learned. Can't do anything with any of those books anymore.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse
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I hear you. My American Practical Navigator by Bowditch is full of log, trig, lat/long factor tables and celestial navigation calculations that are now available at a touch of a series of keys. The volumes just collect dust now.

God help a modern mariner if his batteries fail.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 19, 2017 09:32 AM (tr2D7)

52 Posted by: M.C. Escher


Hah! I was going to make an Escher joke and then I lost my train of thought and look squirrel and what were we talking about?

Oh, I think I was picturing Eris at the Korova Milk Bar.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (gIRsn)

53 Posted by: M.C. Escher at November 19, 2017 09:31 AM (9q7Dl)

it would be really cool in stone

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (hMwEB)

54 Yesterday I read through Scott Adams' "Win Bigly". It's about persuasion techniques and how the God Emperor has used them to win.

A very, very good book even if it does plunder his own blog for content. But who cares; he deserves the money anyway. And I've learnt a lot from it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (6FqZa)

55 yikes!

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:33 AM (gIRsn)

Posted by: josephistan at November 19, 2017 09:34 AM (ANIFC)

57

italicans everwhere

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:34 AM (hMwEB)

58 "the kama sutra is always a tasteful choice"

For young readers, who are just learning to enjoy the act of reading, there's always "HELTER SKELTER - The Manson Murders."

Posted by: Squeaky Fromme at November 19, 2017 09:35 AM (V2Yro)

59 I finished Dead Mans' Walk by Larry McMurty and am a third of the way
through Comanche Moon. Am I the only one that finds Augustus McCrae to
be thoroughly unlikable?
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I agree.

Posted by: Blue Duck, innocent aborigine minding my own business at November 19, 2017 09:36 AM (ylUqT)

60 Don't blame our Itali-cans!

Bander, really.

Which reminds me, I finished Kurlansky's "Cod" -- so, so good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:36 AM (qJtVm)

61 I believe that, in the barrel, italics are perfectly acceptable after Labor Day.

Posted by: Blue Duck, innocent aborigine minding my own business at November 19, 2017 09:37 AM (ylUqT)

62 Titan sit stand motorized desk frame $239
Lumber Liq. 3 6 Acacia Cutting board counter top $171
One of a kind Sit Stand desk Priceless

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 19, 2017 09:38 AM (BtQd4)

63 The book thread barrel is classier than the regular barrel.

The toilet graffiti is all spelled correctly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (gIRsn)

64 I peeped through Philip Jenkins' BarrelCrucible of Faith. Jenkins argues that Judaism changed a LOT during the crisis of Greek rule.

Seems to be something to read in parallel with James Kugel, The Great BarrelShift.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (6FqZa)

65 I have two hard-copy references, The Merk Index from 1945, which is basically a run down of the materia medica as known in 1945, recommended dosages and all the recognized diagnostic tests, and my beloved Taubers Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary.

Well, and Ezell's Handguns of the World, and Smith and Smith's Small Arms of the World.
Handguns of the World is one of the most fun reference books I have ever owned, although it focuses on center fire cartridge guns

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:39 AM (2K6fY)

66 I tried to read Comanche Moon and Dead Man's Walk, and gave up - the mangling of historical facts about early Texas was just to much for me. And Mcrae was unlikable.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 19, 2017 09:40 AM (xnmPy)

67 Which reminds me, I finished Kurlansky's "Cod" -- so, so good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:36 AM (qJtVm)
I was debating whether or not to get that. 'Salt' was quite good- have you read it?Unfortunately, I got 'Salt' for research reasons. I don't really have that excuse if I want to read 'Cod'.

Posted by: right wing yankee at November 19, 2017 09:40 AM (obZ4W)

68 A parallel universe exists where everything is written in italics, all the time.

Posted by: Richard Feynman at November 19, 2017 09:41 AM (ylUqT)

69 gift books - y'all should consider giving copies of Thump: The First Bundred Days specially to kids of lefty relatives. LOL

I put it up on my blog recently

Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:41 AM (hMwEB)

70 For those with herniatic tomes, I suggest a plinth.
It looks great next to your marble bust of Catullus and your crystal
decanter set in the hollow globe.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 19, 2017 09:25 AM (qJtVm)


So . . . Which is the plinth and which is they bust? And has he been on a bust for long?

(Channeling Mark Twain)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:42 AM (2K6fY)

71 Silly library humor skit:

http://tinyurl.com/ydgbdqdb

I purchased one of the $0.99 Sci-Fi Megapacks. They usually have a handful of stories I don't know about and it saves time searching for free copies of authors I don't typically read. Anyways, this one had a story that is far more recent.

Hillary Orbits Venus

I can't work up the courage to read it.

Posted by: WOPR (now with chainsaw bayonets) at November 19, 2017 09:42 AM (J70i0)

72 "68 A parallel universe exists where everything is written in italics, all the time."

So does the one where English is written right to left and Hebrew is written left to right.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 19, 2017 09:42 AM (V2Yro)

73 Morning, readers and writers. Thanks for the attention y'all gave my book release last week (The Mountain Throne, by A.M. Sterling). I got a spike in Kindle sales (16!) and a 5-star review out of it.

Posted by: Apostate at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (7d/38)

74 Oh, you should totally get "Cod".

It's one of the books I evangelize. Just so much fun and so many good factish nuggets.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (gIRsn)

75 If we could teach the zombies to farm brains, maybe they would separate and form their own country and leave us alone.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (/qEW2)

76 Hillary Orbits Venus

Gonna be hard for her to chill her chardonnay down there.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (6FqZa)

77 Horde Prayer List

(Updates, Corrections and Additions can be sent to the email in my nic.)

Rickl- Lung cancer.

Redc1c4- Employment

Fox2!- Bloodwork and colonoscopy

Abby- Father has passed. Children have ex-communicated.

Carol- Her Brother's eventual passing.

kbdabear- Mother's dementia.

Ladylibertarian- Father in hospice. Fell and broke nose.

CaliGirl- Mom's boyfriend Arthur has cancer.

Grump928(c)- Mother, Sally Jo, fell and broke her hip.

Hrothgar- Son killed in accident.

Ritabootoo- Someone who may have colon cancer.

Fenelon Spoke- Supervisor, "D's", Brother had a stroke and is in hospice. Husband's job search. Son acting out in a disturbing manner.

RedMindBlueState- Cousin Agnes, who's too weak for the heart surgery she needs, and whose condition is deteriorating rapidly.

Dr. Strangepork- Friend may have had a stroke.

Bebe's boobs destroy- In a fight over the house with her Sister.

Neil- Back

Jo Anne- Left leg.

Mindful webworker- Premature Grandchild.

Patty- Alcoholic husband.

ibguy- Sister's brain cancer, (gioblastoma).

pookysgirl- Husband's suicide attempt and mental health.

Jade Sea- Husband's cancer

tcn- husband's possible lung tumor and swollen lymph nodes.

Moron Pundit- Father-in-law's heart surgery.

junior- Employment

Duke Lowell- Son in need of healing.

Miley- Future employment, big move, Friend Melonie's cracked ribs. Mother's cellulitis of leg.

Captain Whitebread- Future employment. Mother needs stent; may not be well enough for it.

Jinx- Mother's passing.

Emmie- Relationship with Daughter.

Vic- Return of cancer.

ReneeTX- Terminal brain cancer.

Booknlass- Relationship with Daughter.

Just wondering- Sister, Lisa, has a brain tumor.

Christopher Taylor- Health and depression.

Lin-duh fell- Father-in-law has a gioblastoma.

Blacksheep- Stage 2 prostate cancer.

Weirddave and Gingy- Gingy's father passing away.

Alexthechick- Father's dementia.

Molly K- Neice killed by elderly driver.

Donna V- Bills to be paid and alcoholic Brother.

Gushka- Infection after being bitten by her horse. Her friends' mental health after returning from battle.

TonyPete- Friends' terminal diagnosis, Wife's, (Renee), terminal illness.

bergerbuilder- Multiple strokes, out of hospital at end of September.

Chi- Friend's passing, (Lewis), after battle with cancer.

huerfano- Father with DNR was revived by fellow bridge players and EMTs; Angry about it.

The Oort Cloud- Thalassemia, genetic blood disorder, complicated my hemolytic anemia. "Given" two years by doctor.

Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing- Job issues.

Hopped up on Something- Immediate Family member with cancer. Bone pain without opioids, Hospital Policy.

Publius- Rheumatoid arthritis, severe pain during flare-ups.

Cannibal Bob- Two brothers in law. 1. Brain tumor hospice soon.
2. Just diagnosed cancer around heart and in aorta. Biopsy taken. Stage 3.
3. Cousin just completed 5 rounds of chemo for cancer in abdomen. Reoccurance firm many years ago.

Insomniac- 1) That my autoimmune disorder will stay under control. 2) That the work situation I have will continue to come together and grow.

Oregon Muse- Shoulder replacement and recovery.

Slapweasel- Father's dementia and Mother's attitude.

Thank you for your continued prayers!
Bless you all

Posted by: Seattle at November 19, 2017 09:43 AM (Ckg4U)

78 Tolle Lege
Having a problem and need advice.
The Kindle app on my Samsung galaxy crashed locking me out of the books on it. So looked it up on web and it said to erase it and start over but I have many books I don't want to lose. How do I get them back after I replace it?

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (aC6Sd)

79 *Takes off West Coast sock.*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (Ckg4U)

80 Good morning!

My favorite wedding gift is The Joy of Cooking.
I wrap it in a vintage apron.

At some point during the shower, or reception, I suggest that cooking together, or at least doing the dishes together, will really help keep their marriage healthy.

I don't know if it's worked. Haven't heard back. Just a theory.

Posted by: booknlass at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (9mZIr)

81 American Practical Navigator by Bowditch

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I wanted one of those. Never got a round toit.
I did have Chapman's Seamanship and Small Boat Handling which I read cover to cover. Lost in one of my many relocations.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at November 19, 2017 09:44 AM (4XCge)

82 McMurtry's "Berrybender Narratives" series is awfully good, if you don't mind drugged out versions of historical fiction. Sin Killer is the first book in the series.

Posted by: Barack Obama is a bad, bad man at November 19, 2017 09:45 AM (ylUqT)

83 I like the universe where the Arabs take over the eastern Roman Empire and make it a centre of world culture and literacy. And they base their capital at Palmyra.

Oh wait... that actually happened, under Odaenathus and Zenobia.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:45 AM (6FqZa)

84 Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at November 19, 2017 09:41 AM (hMwEB)

Is that the one with the bunny sporting a Golden Scalp Weasel?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 19, 2017 09:46 AM (rp9xB)

85 Here's a book for those interested: Paul Veyne, Palmyre, l'irremplaçable trésor. Recently translated as "Palmyra".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (6FqZa)

86 But on the positive, almost finished Master and Commander by Patrick O'Brien and picked up this week at the used book store a book I wanted for 30 years, Col John Elting's Swords Around the Thrown a account of Napoleon's guard.

Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (aC6Sd)

87 "My favorite wedding gift is The Joy of Cooking.
I wrap it in a vintage apron. "

That's a cool idea.

Posted by: Apostate at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (7d/38)

88 poo.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at November 19, 2017 09:48 AM (6FqZa)

89 If I had to guess, I would say the Stuttgart library probably smells a lot better than the Main library here.

A lot better.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 19, 2017 09:49 AM (EZebt)

90 BTH, you got the accent agout through Pixie, that's impressive to start with.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2017 09:49 AM (2K6fY)