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Foreign Interference In Our Electoral Process For Me, But Not For Thee

Gee, I wonder whether Carlos Slim exerts any influence on the editorial slant of one of his companies?


I don't believe for a minute that Russia has any influence over president Trump, other than his admiration for Putin.

But if we are going to talk about foreign influences, by all means let us open the investigation into foreign campaign donations (Obama), foreign donations to government officials' charities (Clinton), and worst of all, foreign influence over NGOs (Soros).

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM




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Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 12:08 PM (493sH)

2 Good idea!

Posted by: MAGA at May 19, 2017 12:08 PM (LQ1Q3)

3 I wonder if a special counsel would have been appointed to investigate the malfeasance of the DNC in the last election?

Posted by: Penfold at May 19, 2017 12:08 PM (Fbt5B)

4 th

Posted by: Biig Al Fredo at May 19, 2017 12:08 PM (iWo0u)

5 me too

Posted by: Biig Al Fredo at May 19, 2017 12:08 PM (iWo0u)

6 James Woods was great in "Holocaust". Glad to see that he hasn't gone full retard, unlike some of his fellow cast members (Streep, Moriarty)

Posted by: SFGoth at May 19, 2017 12:09 PM (dZ756)

7 pack

Posted by: Biig Al Fredo at May 19, 2017 12:09 PM (iWo0u)

8 I agree... the sauce for the goose should be examined thoroughly since there are false accusations of the gander being sauced.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 19, 2017 12:09 PM (rAIG/)

9 ball

Posted by: Biig Al Fredo at May 19, 2017 12:09 PM (iWo0u)

10 James Woods was great in "Holocaust". Glad to see
that he hasn't gone full retard, unlike some of his fellow cast members
(Streep, Moriarty)


Posted by: SFGoth at May 19, 2017 12:09 PM (dZ756)

He isn't even part retard although he would fit in fine with us Morons and 'Ettes.

Posted by: redbanzai at May 19, 2017 12:10 PM (rAIG/)

11
Neal Cavuto is showing the latest Slime Magazine cover of the White House with the Kremlin superimposed over a part of it. The MFM is going to keep beating this drum even if it makes no noise. Cavuto just flung the magazine to the ground.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 12:10 PM (493sH)

12 Thanks for the nood, assholes

Posted by: Moses at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (udajc)

13 Recall that some Saudi prince bragged that he had funded 20% of Hillary's 2016 campaign in a local/regional paper. Then when it got noticed here in the US he quickly retracted.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (NOIQH)

14 But if we are going to talk about foreign influences, by all means let us open the investigation into foreign campaign donations (Obama), foreign donations to government officials' charities (Clinton), and worst of all, foreign influence over NGOs (Soros).

Posted by: CBD at 12:15 PM

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Can we twist the knife and somehow sue Ted Kennedy's estate for his efforts to get the USSR to meddle in the 1984 election?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (elLTo)

15 6 James Woods was great in "Holocaust". Glad to see that he hasn't gone full retard, unlike some of his fellow cast members (Streep, Moriarty)
Posted by: SFGoth at May 19, 2017 12:09 PM (dZ756)



James Woods is a pretty smart guy by all accounts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (SRKgf)

16 #11 And it's not the Kremlin, TQM, it's St Basil's cathedral so TIME even fucked that up. (It's also ripping off a cover already done by MAD Magazine.)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM (nlbfN)

17 Also, seem to recall that Obama dispatched his own campaign people - and used taxpayer funds - to try and get Netanyahu defeated.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM (NOIQH)

18 "Cavuto just flung the magazine to the ground."

As he should.

I'm just perturbed at how many trees are being wasted to publish this dung.

Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, still a Tigers fan at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM (1aMQH)

19 Also, here's a great depiction of the stupid fucking time we live in:

twitter.com/CloudMG07/status/865400875220557824

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM (udajc)

20 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 19, 2017 12:13 PM (DofIg)

21 >> And it's not the Kremlin, TQM, it's St Basil's cathedral so TIME even
fucked that up. (It's also ripping off a cover already done by MAD
Magazine.)

Oh, hadn't seen that it was a rip-off of MAD, that makes it even worse!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:14 PM (NOIQH)

22 My leftist co-workers (which is basically all of them) were all going on and on about impeachment yesterday in the office.

Ugh. Glad I normally work at home and only rarely have to go to the office.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 12:14 PM (ul9CR)

23 No, but it's got the words "New York" in the name so it must be positive for American. Or something.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 12:14 PM (KUaJL)

24 James Woods was great in "Holocaust". Glad to see that he hasn't gone full retard, unlike some of his fellow cast members (Streep, Moriarty)
Posted by: SFGoth


James Woods used to be a huge lefty. Funny and brilliant guy, though.
He was taking a flight from Boston to LA just before 9/11, and afterwards, realized that the guys on board were rehearsing for 9/11. He talked to the FBI and got a thorough de-brief about what he saw.
It was an epiphany for him. He changed completely. It literally scared him shitless.

Afterwards, because of his views about what he experienced, the Hollywood Left ostracized him. That completed his move from the Left to the Right.
He is still his own man, and nobody tells James Woods what to think or say.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 19, 2017 12:14 PM (RFeQD)

25 20 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.

Really? What a joke. Dude should be as toxic as Olberdouche, yet he keeps getting hired.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 12:15 PM (ul9CR)

26 James Woods was great in Gremlins.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2017 12:15 PM (/0dcw)

27 Just like calls for racial "reparations," I'm all for an accounting. But it must be fair and across the board. By all means investigate the Trump campaign, but also investigate the Clinton campaign, and the DNC.

On the "reparations" front, let's do a reckoning of what blacks contributed, but also include the problems they cause(d).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:15 PM (SRKgf)

28 "Also, here's a great depiction of the stupid fucking time we live in.."

Yeah, pretty feckin' stupid. Like a stoopit boss, yo.

Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, still a Tigers fan at May 19, 2017 12:15 PM (1aMQH)

29
I saw a lede in Yahoo that Comey tried hiding behind curtains in the WH because he wasn't comfortable with Trump trying to create a more personal relationship.

WTFF (the first "F" is for "fookity")?

DC is a day care center packed to the brim with toddlers wielding dangerous powers toxic to our country. My disgust for them knows no bounds.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (pNxlR)

30 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.

-----

He was being a jerk this week.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (8XRCm)

31 James Woods used to be a huge lefty.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 19, 2017 12:14 PM (RFeQD)



Is that really true? I thought I'd read that he'd always been pretty conservative.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (SRKgf)

32 29
I saw a lede in Yahoo that Comey tried hiding behind curtains in the WH because he wasn't comfortable with Trump trying to create a more personal relationship.

WTFF (the first "F" is for "fookity")?

DC is a day care center packed to the brim with toddlers wielding dangerous powers toxic to our country. My disgust for them knows no bounds.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (pNxlR)

=============

He did it because he's a very brave man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (elLTo)

33 all valid points. but, until madame secretary, billy syphilis, are perp walked through the hallowed halls of the william jefferson clinton porn distribution center, i really don't give a fuck. and justice for all, my pasty, white ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (KP5rU)

34 British intelligence worked with the Obama administration to wiretap his domestic opposition.

Saudi Arabia claims to have funded a quarter of Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Russia gave the Clintons millions of dollars.

China was proven to have given Bill Clinton millions of dollars, illegally, in the 90s.

The EU political leadership specifically attacked Trump during the election.

Three to six million illegals, nationals of other countries, voted in the 2016 election.

And yet somehow none of this is pertinent to the discussion of "foreign influence" on our elections.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (eSx+E)

35 Hmmm..... I wonder...

They are trying to get Flynn because he did not register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act... an act where if you are trying to influence US policy, you must register if you are working for or part of, a foreign Agency....

Wouldn't this Billionaire be a Foreign Agent? And is he NOT trying to influence US Policy?

Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:16 PM (NgKpN)

36 Bob Beckel.

Hired
Fired
Hired
Fired

Still a big fat stupid guy.

And at this point.....what difference does it make?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 19, 2017 12:17 PM (RFeQD)

37 Yahoo that Comey tried hiding behind curtains in the WH because he wasn't comfortable with Trump trying to create a more personal relationship.

-----

*spins*
*spins*
*spins*

Posted by: Zombie J Edgar Hoover at May 19, 2017 12:17 PM (8XRCm)

38 James Woods is awesome - would fit right in here.
Watch him interrupt Patton Oswald trashing Trump:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lec2563

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:17 PM (NOIQH)

39 If Comey's habit was to put self-serving memos in the file, might there be a few about the DOJ/FBI investigation of Hillary?

Asking for a friend

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:17 PM (+7/1f)

40 I saw a lede in Yahoo that Comey tried hiding behind curtains in the WH
because he wasn't comfortable with Trump trying to create a more
personal relationship
***
He's been a Clinton flunkie since the 90s. It was likely not good for his relationship with his real boss to be seen as too close to his boss's enemy...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:17 PM (eSx+E)

41 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.

Really? What a joke. Dude should be as toxic as Olberdouche, yet he keeps getting hired.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 12:15 PM (ul9CR)

Yeah , but this time it say she was fired for a "racially insensitive" remark about a minority fox employee...Sounds to me it is crap and just pc ass covering.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:17 PM (KlI/a)

42 Foreign interference?

Isn't Jeff Bezos from Mars?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (RFeQD)

43 Really? What a joke. Dude should be as toxic as Olberdouche, yet he keeps getting hired.
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 12:15 PM (ul9CR)


Last time it was just for being an obnoxious drunk and druggie. Nothing serious.

THIS time, Beckel apparently made a disparaging remark to a minority.
Permanent, obviously, and possibly a hanging offense.

YAY! I somewhat dislike Beckel.
It's in my diary.

Posted by: jwb7605 at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (DofIg)

44 This "admiration" for Putin bullshit is overblown and we shouldn't perpetuate it. I heard Hillary saying he was going around praising Putin all the time.

It isn't so. He said a few times that Putin was a better leader for Russia than TFG was for the US. Which was mostly a dig at TFG. His point being that a leader of a country that pursues that country's interests is a good leader for that country.

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (Sq5z0)

45 19 Also, here's a great depiction of the stupid fucking time we live in:

twitter.com/CloudMG07/status/865400875220557824
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM (udajc)

Realtalk: the wonderwoman movie might be the first non-Nolan Batman DC based comic book movie that doesn't suck in a while. Trailers are giving vibes of the first Captain America movie.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (KUaJL)

46 Tell the people cheering for impeachment: good. Trump will fund raise like crazy, prove to the country that the left are lunatics, and we have one Senator who will stand up ad repeat wht Sheets Byrd said: in my heart, he's innocent; so fuck you all".

I may have added that last part, but it was clearly implied.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (326rv)

47 James Woods is a mensch.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (LTHVh)

48 And it's not the Kremlin, TQM, it's St Basil's cathedral so TIME even fucked that up. (It's also ripping off a cover already done by MAD Magazine.)

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM (nlbfN)



Ahh.. the "legitimate" news media at work

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (493sH)

49 Racist.

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (OzBAs)

50 DRUDGE: Judge dismisses 'clock boy' suit saying school didn't discriminate...

Good.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (ul9CR)

51 Mexico interferes with our elections directly by encouraging its citizens to move here and VOTE!
Which they do, by the millions.

Posted by: navybrat at May 19, 2017 12:19 PM (w7KSn)

52 There has been foreign interference in all elections since the snake whispered into Eve's ear

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:19 PM (KlI/a)

53 Comey is 6'8" tall. How's he going to hide in the curtains?

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:19 PM (TO4Og)

54 >>I saw a lede in Yahoo that Comey tried hiding behind curtains in the WH
because he wasn't comfortable with Trump trying to create a more
personal relationship.


What's really funny is that this was relayed to the press by his friend, Ben Wittes (the guy who also said he saw the Comey "memo"), who said that Comey attempted to head off a hug from Trump -- and there's video showing no such thing.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:20 PM (NOIQH)

55 Is that really true? I thought I'd read that he'd always been pretty conservative.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


He used to be on Carson all the time, and I am just going by what he used to say when he talked to Johnny. Didn't sound Conservative in those days.

Really smart guy though. I think he has a degree from MIT.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 19, 2017 12:20 PM (RFeQD)

56 Imagine!

Posted by: John Lennon at May 19, 2017 12:20 PM (vI+F1)

57 on Fox now: film clip: Sen Graham thinks the russia probe should now be "considered a criminal investigation"

hope I got the quote correct.

Posted by: Mallfly Queen of Hoboken at May 19, 2017 12:20 PM (ILitO)

58 Love James Woods. I follow him on Twitter. He is one of those actors that is always good in everything he is in-and totally steals scenes in supporting parts especially when he is playing a jerky character....I loved his sleazebag Lester in Casino.

I love that he is a loudmouth conservative-leaning badass.

Posted by: Goldilocks at May 19, 2017 12:20 PM (zz1sH)

59 This, exactly. Any influence Putin may or may not have is dwarfed by the influence of the MSM here, as well as the influence *any* hostile foreign power might have on someone for sale to the highest bidder, like Hillary.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:21 PM (vRcUp)

60 "I'm just perturbed at how many trees are being wasted to publish this dung."

_Time_ magazine? Exactly how many down-at-the-heels medical and dental waiting rooms are there? Can't add up to a tree holocaust.

By the way, the last time I got stuck in such a depressing waiting room, sure enough, there was a copy of _Time_. With a big lengthy story all about... America's infrastructure deficit, and Trump's plan to fix it.

So, since I was stuck, and bored, I read the whole thing. But before I started reading it, I quietly made a bet with myself.

A bet that the story would not even once bring up the 2009 Obama porkulus bill. Nor would it go in to the colossal amount of money which had at that time been meant and claimed to address "infrastructure", and which was instead frittered away and/or corruptly stolen.

Needless to say, I won the bet.

The story didn't even mention Obama. Not once. It was as though the nation had undergone a neat segue from the George W. Bush administration to the Donald J. Trump administration. Presto change-o!

Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2017 12:21 PM (ujwCG)

61 44
He said a few times that Putin was a better leader for Russia than TFG was for the US.
Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (Sq5z0)


Hell, I've said that myself.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (xjiRE)

62
Resettin'!
Somethin' 2 C!

Resettin'!
Perfect 4 mee!

Resettin'!
Where's my next trophy?

Resettin'!
* mike drop *

Posted by: Chel-Z: Rapper to the Aluminum Foil Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (pNxlR)

63 And how about "foreign" influence over state elections?

Look at all the money coming into the Georgia House race for next month.

Daily Kos is pushing multiple campaigns to send money into that race.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (so+oy)

64 >>>12 Thanks for the nood, assholes

You are welcome!

Posted by: Hope Solo at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (UP3E5)

65 "Democracy dies in darkness"

The mistake everyone is making is assuming that this was meant to be Washington Post's new motto. It's not. It's their strategic plan.

Posted by: Kasper Hauser at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (HqpV0)

66 How about the Obama foreign campaign contributions? The credit cards? Turning off the feature to prevent foreign money?

Posted by: nip at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (vOea4)

67 on Fox now: film clip: Sen Graham thinks the russia probe should now be "considered a criminal investigation"

hope I got the quote correct.
Posted by: Mallfly Queen of Hoboken at May 19, 2017 12:20 PM (ILitO)

THAT is not really what he said.

What he said is that now that this special council has the power to bring criminal charges, that it would now be difficult for the Senate and House committees to do any useful work since any relevant witness with 1/2 a brain will refuse to testify, and for good reason.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (KlI/a)

68 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.


Bartenders, Liquor Stores Hardest Hit.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (qJhUV)

69 By the way, isn't all of this clearly, and I mean clearly intended to stop Trump from getting an FBI director that is free of the swamp?

We've all been amazed that Trump has not gone after Hillary, Holder, Lynch, etc...but he would need an FBI director that wasn't part of their circle to actually get an investigation started.

Do you really think Comey or Andrew McCabe are going to allow any such investigation to take place?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (eSx+E)

70 The Russia conspiracy theory is at BEST on the level of the Bambi Birth Certificate stuff, which in the end will influence nobody.

The media/Dummocrats are blinded with their intent to control the narrative and beat us down. Just like during the election.

They won't get it until it's too late. Again.

Posted by: Mega at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (nmOpX)

71 The entire global community was behind Hillary, this idea that MAYBE Russia preferred Trump over Hillary disqualifies who the American people actually elected is almost too stupid to even debate.

I'm still not even convinced Russia was actively trying to get Trump elected.

If I was Russia, I would want Hillary. Russia's main global weapon is oil, which Administration is going to strangle America's fracking revolution?

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (Pa8uy)

72 57; miss lindsey really needs a deep russian probe. another piece of monkey shit.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 19, 2017 12:24 PM (KP5rU)

73 71
If I was Russia, I would want Hillary. Russia's main global weapon is oil, which Administration is going to strangle America's fracking revolution?
Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (Pa8uy)

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Trump because shut up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:24 PM (elLTo)

74 "If I was Russia, I would want Hillary. Russia's main global weapon is oil, which Administration is going to strangle America's fracking revolution? "

Frackin' right.

Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, still a Tigers fan at May 19, 2017 12:24 PM (1aMQH)

75
Look at all the money coming into the Georgia House race for next mon
***
And don't forget Obama literally tried to hack into their state election office. Did we ever get an explanation for that?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (eSx+E)

76 Agents of foreign powers.

Posted by: 80's music fan at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (HCnEB)

77 "And don't forget Obama literally tried to hack into their state election office. Did we ever get an explanation for that?"

Hah. Explanation. Good one.

Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, still a Tigers fan at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (1aMQH)

78 The entire global community was behind Hillary, this idea that MAYBE Russia preferred Trump over Hillary disqualifies who the American people actually elected is almost too stupid to even debate.

I'm still not even convinced Russia was actively trying to get Trump elected.

If I was Russia, I would want Hillary. Russia's main global weapon is oil, which Administration is going to strangle America's fracking revolution?
Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (Pa8uy)

The ""Word" on the street is that Putin hates The FAB. I think she said some pretty nasty things about him ( not that I give a rat's ass, just informational) and he hates her. And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (KlI/a)

79 71
If I was Russia, I would want Hillary. Russia's
main global weapon is oil, which Administration is going to strangle
America's fracking revolution?



Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (Pa8uy)

Russia definitely wanted Hillary - so she could supply them with more Staples "That was easy!" buttons to do more "resets".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 12:26 PM (jxbfJ)

80 >>>Sen Graham


stfu

Posted by: concrete girl at May 19, 2017 12:26 PM (WKvlL)

81 70 The Russia conspiracy theory is at BEST on the level of the Bambi Birth Certificate stuff, which in the end will influence nobody.

The media/Dummocrats are blinded with their intent to control the narrative and beat us down. Just like during the election.

They won't get it until it's too late. Again.
Posted by: Mega at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (nmOpX)

Trump should, right now, rescind the Exec Order sealing Obama's Papers...

There is no longer a National Security need to keep those records sealed...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:26 PM (NgKpN)

82 77 "And don't forget Obama literally tried to hack into their state election office. Did we ever get an explanation for that?"

Hah. Explanation. Good one.
Posted by: Twin Cities Daydrunk, still a Tigers fan at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (1aMQH)

===============

Thought:

Trump should leak that his administration is doing something illegal. Include all of the details with redacted names and such.

Let the press go wild.

Reveal that it was all done under Obama.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:26 PM (elLTo)

83 I am hoping PDT's team is coming up with some game-changing plan-a few months back I remember hearing he was working with Jordan (? Or maybe another Gulf ally) to start setting up syrian refugee campe OVER THERE....likewise there is a lot of good news coming out of ICE as well as some truly enraging illegal and legal but criminal immigrant stories (the double murder of 2 doctors in Boston was a local one 2 weeks ago) that would all make a great telecast to the public supporting his agenda. Same with jobs, etc. The job market in Boston has picked up a lot in the past few months...

Posted by: Goldilocks at May 19, 2017 12:27 PM (zz1sH)

84
And it's not the Kremlin, TQM, it's St Basil's cathedral so TIME even
fucked that up. (It's also ripping off a cover already done by MAD
Magazine.)



Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM



The Russian Orthodox are coming! The Russian Orthodox are coming!

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:27 PM (TO4Og)

85 A bet that the story would not even once bring up the 2009 Obama porkulus bill.
***
If the government actually used the money to resolve the issue, it couldn't turn around and argue for more money for the same issue the next year.

Since there are no negative impacts to anyone in the government when they fail to resolve issues when given money, this pattern will continue.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:27 PM (eSx+E)

86 "I'm still not even convinced Russia was actively trying to get Trump elected."

I agree.

In his last Congressional testimony Comey emphatically said the Russians wanted Trump, with no foundation other than "he's a businessman, hence more pliable."

This is within Mueller's mandate. I hope he covers it

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:28 PM (+7/1f)

87 20 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.

---

did he NOT sexually harass Kim?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 12:28 PM (h/uSM)

88 44 This "admiration" for Putin bullshit is overblown and we shouldn't perpetuate it. I heard Hillary saying he was going around praising Putin all the time.

It isn't so. He said a few times that Putin was a better leader for Russia than TFG was for the US. Which was mostly a dig at TFG. His point being that a leader of a country that pursues that country's interests is a good leader for that country.
Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (Sq5z0)

Somebody at The Federalist commented on Trump's admiration for Putin but I agree with you.
At most he might admire some of qualities by way of comparison to Barry's generally tepid half assery.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:28 PM (hJrjt)

89 86 "I'm still not even convinced Russia was actively trying to get Trump elected."

I agree.

In his last Congressional testimony Comey emphatically said the Russians wanted Trump, with no foundation other than "he's a businessman, hence more pliable."

This is within Mueller's mandate. I hope he covers it
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:28 PM (+7/1f)

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Hillary was less pliable. She started negotiations at 25% of our uranium and wouldn't go any lower.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (elLTo)

90
sock be gone

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (8XRCm)

91
We can't do this. We can't re-live the Bush years by being on the defensive and calling out the hypocrisy of the Left. It gets us nowhere.

We have ZERO offense. We suck at politics.

If we never go on the attack, we'll never stop the Left.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (CyMMI)

92 whatwhatwhat, I work in Boulder. the douchebaggery is strong.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (1c1wW)

93 88
Somebody at The Federalist commented on Trump's admiration for Putin but I agree with you.
At most he might admire some of qualities by way of comparison to Barry's generally tepid half assery.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:28 PM (hJrjt)

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Also, praise from Trump is cheap. He throws it out a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (elLTo)

94 84
And it's not the Kremlin, TQM, it's St Basil's cathedral so TIME even
fucked that up. (It's also ripping off a cover already done by MAD
Magazine.)



Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 12:12 PM


The Russian Orthodox are coming! The Russian Orthodox are coming!
Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:27 PM (TO4Og)

That means Patriarchy.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (hJrjt)

95 If we never go on the attack, we'll never stop the Left.

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....aaaaannnnnnnd?

Posted by: Lindsey "Lohand" Graham at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (8XRCm)

96 I want a newspaper! Bezos, Carlos, all the cool kids have one.

Let's see, LA Times? Chicago Tribune? Newsday?

Posted by: Tom Steyer at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (vRcUp)

97

Where are Chuck Schemer's tax returns?? I demand to see them.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (CyMMI)

98 The ""Word" on the street is that Putin hates The FAB. I think she said some pretty nasty things about him ( not that I give a rat's ass, just informational) and he hates her. And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (KlI/a)

Putin is a dispassionate Chess Player... and a Russian Patriot...

He will do what is good for his country.... period...

IMO he would never allow personal feelings to over ride what was good for his country...

FAB would have killed Fracking... and would have destroyed our economy.... and would have weakened the military further...

I can't see Putin wanting Trump over Clinton, UNLESS, he saw a need for some stability in the West, and a partner to try to control the Mid East...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (NgKpN)

99 If the government actually used the money to resolve the issue, it couldn't turn around and argue for more money for the same issue the next year.


Ah, the California dipsy-doodle. Put an bond initiative on the ballot to raise money for "school construction and maintenance." Then, when it passes, use the money to give the teachers' union a juicy raise. Money for school construction and maintenance? Nada.

Next cycle, put ANOTHER bond initiative on the ballot to raise money for "school construction and maintenance." It passes, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (SRKgf)

100 Also, praise from Trump is cheap. He throws it out a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (elLTo)

Yup, it's New Yooork/Joosey thing to praise someone right before you kneecap them.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (KlI/a)

101 Also on the Russian meddling, the idea that they would pick a side that EVERYONE had concluded was going to lose, including all the global betting markets , and try and antagonize the Clinton Administration with election meddling is just not really how rational state actors behave.

They don't put all their eggs in one, long shot basket in a brazen way like that.

Also, the Russians got like everything they wanted with Obama and Hillary as Sec of State. They had even successfully bribed the Clintons for uranium when they wanted it.

Why are we so convinced Putin only wanted Trump?

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:31 PM (Pa8uy)

102 12 Thanks for the nood, assholes
Posted by: Moses at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (udajc)


No prob.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 19, 2017 12:31 PM (CPk08)

103 In his last Congressional testimony Comey emphatically said the Russians wanted Trump, with no foundation other than "he's a businessman, hence more pliable."

Then again, Hillary wanted Trump...as her rival. And see how well that worked out.

Hillary and Vlad; together again.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (326rv)

104
20 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.


Like, with a blowtorch?

There's a lot of perfectly good, renderable oil in that bloated whale's carcass...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (pNxlR)

105 James Woods is a pretty smart guy by all accounts.

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he attended MIT, but dropped out to pursue acting

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (h/uSM)

106 Trump should, right now, rescind the Exec Order sealing Obama's Papers...
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No Republican has tried to fight fire with fire since oh the mid 90s.

Part of the reason that Trump was elected was a widely view that as a very different sort of Republican/politician he would actually fight back.

Well, now is the time.

In return for trying to "move on" from the endless Obama and Clinton scandals he's now got a special prosecutor after him.

He needs a non-compromised FBI director to start the needed investigations that did not happen over the last 8 years, and likely won't get that person now...but as you point out he has other options.

Is Trump brave enough to do so though?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (eSx+E)

107 I can't see Putin wanting Trump over Clinton, UNLESS, he saw a need for some stability in the West, and a partner to try to control the Mid East...
Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (NgKpN

As I said The 'Word" was not that Putin was taking sides in the election at all. It was only that for some reason he had a hard on for The FAB.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (KlI/a)

108 And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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The Left are flailing about madly, trying to find that undefined 'anything'. It is a case of collective Captain Quigg, and if it weren't so dangerously destabilizing it would be darkly amusing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (ZO497)

109 Thanks for the nood, assholes
Posted by: Moses at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (udajc)

No prob.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at May 19, 2017 12:31 PM (CPk0


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He's just cranky he didnt get to enter into the Promised Land.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (8XRCm)

110 78
The ""Word" on the street is that Putin hates The FAB. I think she said some pretty nasty things about him ( not that I give a rat's ass, just informational) and he hates her. And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:25 PM (KlI/a)


I could also see Putin preferring Trump if he realizes that Hillary is unstable, which I'm sure he does. He would see Trump as a rational leader he can work with.

Say what you will about Putin, but I don't think he wants to start WWIII.

Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (xjiRE)

111 I'm old enough to remember when we had a SoS give the Russians a "Reset" button stolen off a hotel whirlpool tub. And then sell them a whopping enormous chunk of our Uranium.

U-R-A-N-I-U-M.

What I don't remember is a) any real reporting or analysis of that nor b) any concern or discernable rise in blood pressure amongst the MSM due to an SoS handing out National Security Assets while at the same time running the biggest Quid Pro Quo machine mankind has ever seen with the help of a philandering former president to whom she is reputedly married.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (yL25O)

112 We can't do this. We can't re-live the Bush years by being on the defensive and calling out the hypocrisy of the Left. It gets us nowhere.

We have ZERO offense. We suck at politics.

If we never go on the attack, we'll never stop the Left.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 19, 2017 12:29 PM (CyMMI)


This.

The best defense is a good offense.

Besides which, it's impossible to shame the Left re their hypocrisy, because they clearly have no shame. Only goals, and they don't care how they achieve them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (SRKgf)

113 2020....The Rock 'n Woods!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (J+Qkj)

114 101
Why are we so convinced Putin only wanted Trump?

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:31 PM (Pa8uy)

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Who's this "we"?

I'm open to the idea that Russia hacked the DNC in order to just sow distrust through the electoral system. I've never thought that he actually wanted Trump over Hillary.

I believe fully that Russia had access to Hillary's email server and was planning on using that to control her. Just fucking with her during the election was about all I could imagine Russia doing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (elLTo)

115 Why are we so convinced Putin only wanted Trump?

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:31 PM (Pa8uy)

Who said that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (KlI/a)

116 If Putin had wanted to influence the outcome he would have done more than release real e-mails hacked out of the DNC and Podesta.

Putin either has Hillary's missing 33,000 e-mails, or he doesn't. If he did, he could have made devastating leaked revelations in October. If he didn't, he could have used fakes.

I'd bet that he has them, but was holding them to use as blackmail

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (+7/1f)

117 92 whatwhatwhat, I work in Boulder. the douchebaggery is strong.

I'd be tempted to get one of those projectors that lights up the sides of buildings and drive Pearl St at night putting up images of Mo with the bomb on his head, Obama in drag and other run pics.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (3myMJ)

118 >.In his last Congressional testimony Comey emphatically said the Russians
wanted Trump, with no foundation other than "he's a businessman, hence
more pliable."


Aaaand so are the Clintons, and their business is much more amenable to foreign billionaires and tyrants than Trump's.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (NOIQH)

119 He's just cranky he didnt get to enter into the Promised Land.
Posted by: fixerupper
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Careful, you may get smoted with a staff.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2017 12:34 PM (ZO497)

120 61 44
He said a few times that Putin was a better leader for Russia than TFG was for the US.
Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (Sq5z0)

Hell, I've said that myself.
Posted by: rickl at May 19, 2017 12:22 PM (xjiRE)

Well duh. Putin aggressively pushes his country's interests. TFG was assraping his.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 12:35 PM (0mRoj)

121 Say, Mr. Mueller - go take a look into the books of the Clinton Foundation while you're out-and-about. I want to see if my scientific devices can measure how fast the middle school media will start pooh-poohing the idea that foreign governments were influencing our election.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet presents Ace and the Scream Machine at the County Fairgrounds at May 19, 2017 12:35 PM (hLRSq)

122 fun pics.

Turn the projector on for a few seconds and shut it off when people start looking for the source. Drive half a block and turn it on again.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:35 PM (3myMJ)

123 I'd bet that he has them, but was holding them to use as blackmail
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (+7/1f)

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Hell, her server was so unsecure I bet the Iranians had them, the Chicoms had them, the NORKS had them, ISIS had them, Hezbollah had them and a smattering of pimply faced middle schoolers had them.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:35 PM (8XRCm)

124 I'm open to the idea that Russia hacked the DNC in order to just sow distrust through the electoral system. I've never thought that he actually wanted Trump over Hillary.

Yup..which is what I have been saying for months now..The Ruskies have always, were, and still are simply rat fucking with the US, with our elections, and our politics to lay the trap the fuckin left just fell into to cripple America...The fuckin left is killing us with there stupidity and treasonous behavior and actions

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (KlI/a)

125 James Woods was great in Gremlins.

He was great in Diggstown, and in the television series "Shark".

Posted by: Crusader at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (ewSN2)

126 Just saw that Trump is bring Lewandowski into the WH to straighten things out. Let the arm tearing commence.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (kTF2Z)

127 how would the press react if Trump met Putin with a Re-Reset button?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (h/uSM)

128 I want a newspaper! Bezos, Carlos, all the cool kids have one.

Let's see, LA Times? Chicago Tribune? Newsday?

Posted by: Tom Steyer at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (vRcUp)



The Chicago Tribune is looking to buy the Chicago Scum Times leaving Chicago with two shitty newspapers under the same shitty management.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (493sH)

129 Careful, you may get smoted with a staff.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc


Thank YHVH for PFE.

Posted by: Moses at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (udajc)

130 If trying to consider what Putin may have wanted consider the following from during the campaign period:

1) The polling said Clinton would win the presidency and the Reps would hold at least one house of congress.

2) Clinton was calling for war with Russia and Russia's ally in Syria.

3) Clinton was against fracking, which would help the Russian economy.

So it seems clear that a Russian strategy would be to oppose Clinton, but not in an open manner....like hacking and exposing her and her flunkies, and actually to be more concerned with the results of the congressional elections.

China and Saudi Arabia, OTOH, were strongly supportive of her....and it would be interesting to investigate there...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:37 PM (eSx+E)

131 By the way the prosecutors in the weiner case want 2 years for him...Sentencing on Sept 8th

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:37 PM (KlI/a)

132 Just saw that Trump is bring Lewandowski into the WH to straighten things out. Let the arm tearing commence.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (kTF2Z)

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Really?

Heh.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:38 PM (8XRCm)

133 And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.

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how many millions of votes followed that thinking?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 12:38 PM (h/uSM)

134 James Woods was great in Gremlins.

He was great in Diggstown, and in the television series "Shark".



Not to mention as Frodo.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 12:38 PM (LTHVh)

135 127 how would the press react if Trump met Putin with a Re-Reset button?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (h/uSM)


Well, it wouldn't be a button, and they'd grab it, so I don't think the press would react well.

Posted by: mx4 at May 19, 2017 12:39 PM (xxdHN)

136 Why are we so convinced Putin only wanted Trump?

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:31 PM (Pa8uy)

Who said that?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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I'm obviously talking about the MSM and our "intelligence community" that is saying Russia interfered and picked a side.

I didn't that needed to be explained, but I guess some people got confused I was just using a colloquial term.

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:39 PM (Pa8uy)

137 If Sean Rich or whatever his name was sent the emails to wikileaks is it likely that the Russians released anything at all?

I'm sure everyone is trying to get everyone else's info.

No one has ever exposed their own spycraft by releasing that info just to piss off a potential--in fact not just potential, but presumed--future potentate of a rival state.

Because that would be dumb just for dumbness' sake. And because there is no calculus that makes Hillary some sort of antichrist to Russia vis a vis Trump. That cannot have been the plan.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 19, 2017 12:39 PM (yL25O)

138 In his last Congressional testimony Comey emphatically said the Russians wanted Trump, with no foundation other than "he's a businessman, hence more pliable."



Little Jimmy just making shit up. I'm sure his little memos are full of fantasy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 12:39 PM (493sH)

139 The only way Hillary could be a whore would be as a political one. Although she may appeal to liberal octogenarians. I don't know.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:39 PM (vRcUp)

140
China and Saudi Arabia, OTOH, were strongly supportive of her....and it would be interesting to investigate there...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 19, 2017 12:37 PM (eSx+E)


What, no love for us?

Posted by: Random Streetside Bollards Union, NYC Local #911 at May 19, 2017 12:39 PM (pNxlR)

141 The Russian Orthodox are coming! The Russian Orthodox are coming!

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more Patriarchy?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (h/uSM)

142 What's going down the memory hole is Clinton Cash corruption. Does anyone doubt that's why the 33,000 e-mails were deleted with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (+7/1f)

143 I cold remind people that you can't "hack" elections here (yet) anytime they use that term ("hack"). There is no internet connection that would allow votes to be "hacked" (yet).

Don't let people corrupt plain English--that's how truth gets lost.

Posted by: Crusader at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (ewSN2)

144 Realtalk: the wonderwoman movie might be the first non-Nolan Batman DC based comic book movie that doesn't suck in a while. Trailers are giving vibes of the first Captain America movie.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (KUaJL)

Don't count on it. Gal Godot cannot act to save her life.

Posted by: Not Peter O'Toole at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (wNxxH)

145 Then, when it passes, use the money to give the teachers' union a juicy raise, with the additional 'benefit' of increasing donation amounts by the teachers' union to democrats thanks to higher dues being collected off the increased wages.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (SRKgf)




Just sayin'.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (uiwCw)

146 Yikes! hailing outside.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (ZO497)

147 "I'm still not even convinced Russia was actively trying to get Trump elected."

idk, but Hillary may have been more aggressive against Russia, but on behalf of the UN and the globalists, more than on behalf of the US. But the Podesta brothers had their own strategic interests with Russia's big bank, and Hillary had the money for the uranium and Skolkovo tech agreements.

Trump courted the idea of Reaganesque detente with Russia, peace through strength. But Trump wants to drill baby drill, whereas Hillary would curtail fracking ... just because.

Old Soviets like Putin have more ties to Cuba commies, which is certainly a Democrat bond.

There is reportedly all sorts of Russian money flowing into double minded influencers in DC. Maybe the special counsel can give us a scorecard way to keep track of who is bought by the most foreign interests.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (TmCOq)

148
The story didn't even mention Obama. Not once. It was as though the nation had undergone a neat segue from the George W. Bush administration to the Donald J. Trump administration. Presto change-o!
Posted by: torquewrench at May 19, 2017 12:21 PM (ujwCG)

++++

Just what plane of existence are the people on who don't recall The Big Stimulous Package and all the magic it was supposed to perform? Like you say, pfft, it's gone. Not mentioned. Not remembered. Like everything else attached to Calypso Barry that is negative, never happened, as they say.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 19, 2017 12:41 PM (+eKyB)

149
Hamas, literally, endorsed barack obama in 2012.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 19, 2017 12:41 PM (CyMMI)

150 146 Yikes! hailing outside.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


Well, that's better than inside.

Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:41 PM (DQ4Fv)

151 Yikes! hailing outside.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (ZO497)
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That's what you get for talking smack about Moses.

Posted by: bluebell at May 19, 2017 12:41 PM (sBOL1)

152
Just saw that Trump is bring Lewandowski into the WH to straighten things out. Let the arm tearing commence.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 19, 2017 12:36 PM (kTF2Z)


Michelle Fields' one remaining good arm hardest hit.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:41 PM (pNxlR)

153 I'm obviously talking about the MSM and our "intelligence community" that is saying Russia interfered and picked a side.

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The theory for that line of thinking is that Russia provided Wikileaks with the DNC emails.

Assange has REPEATEDLY denied that Russia was his source. If thats the case.... there is NOTHING tying the Russiand to any "hacking" vis a vis the election.

Perhaps ..... we can ask some staffer like Seth Rich.

Oh..... wait.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (8XRCm)

154 114
I'm open to the idea that Russia hacked the DNC in
order to just sow distrust through the electoral system. I've never
thought that he actually wanted Trump over Hillary.



I believe fully that Russia had access to Hillary's email server and
was planning on using that to control her. Just fucking with her during
the election was about all I could imagine Russia doing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (elLTo)

Going with the idea that Russia was the one who hacked Podesta's emails, and more than likely gained access to Hillary's private server - All that they did was EXPOSE what the Dems were doing. Shined a little light on the scumbaggery that they are.
This hacking the election frosts my stones every time I hear it. I went alone into the voting booth. Didn't have any electronics on me, nobody standing over my shoulder making sure my vote went to the "right" candidate.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (jxbfJ)

155 I'm open to the idea that Russia hacked the DNC in order to just sow distrust through the electoral system. I've never thought that he actually wanted Trump over Hillary.

I believe fully that Russia had access to Hillary's email server and was planning on using that to control her. Just fucking with her during the election was about all I could imagine Russia doing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:33 PM (elLTo)



I don't believe that that quite makes sense. I also believe that the Russians had access to her server, and could have used that to their advantage.

But then why undercut her campaign by leaking the DNC emails? Sowing distrust in the electoral system seems like a rather vague and ill-focused goal. If that were their goal, and they're the ones who got the DNC emails, they'd have been better off releasing them AFTER her election. Now that would have REALLY sown distrust of the electoral process among both conservatives and the hard Left.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (SRKgf)

156 153 The theory for that line of thinking is that Russia provided Wikileaks with the DNC emails.

Assange has REPEATEDLY denied that Russia was his source. If thats the case.... there is NOTHING tying the Russiand to any "hacking" vis a vis the election.

Perhaps ..... we can ask some staffer like Seth Rich.

Oh..... wait.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (8XRCm)

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Is Assange trustworthy? If he was funded by Russia, he'd want to keep that quiet, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (elLTo)

157 145 Then, when it passes, use the money to give the teachers' union a juicy raise, with the additional 'benefit' of increasing donation amounts by the teachers' union to democrats thanks to higher dues being collected off the increased wages.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (SRKgf)



Just sayin'.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (uiwCw)

That's the whole scam. Laundering tax money to funnel it back to the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (0mRoj)

158 compared to the braindead power mongers infesting d.c., this putin guy is approaching rocket surgeon territory. not too hard to mindfuck a house and senate full of window licking retards.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (KP5rU)

159 Yikes! hailing outside.
And you know who else heiled outside?!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (nlbfN)

160 I cold remind people that you can't "hack" elections here (yet) anytime they use that term ("hack"). There is no internet connection that would allow votes to be "hacked" (yet).

Don't let people corrupt plain English--that's how truth gets lost.
Posted by: Crusader

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I'm sure that term was poll tested in focus groups by Soros & Co

People knew emails were "hacked" so they tried to then carry that into the actual act of counting ballots to make Trump seem illegitimate.

In a way I'm glad this became a Left meme, hopefully now we can kill the idea of future internet voting.

I only want paper ballots, even 100 years from now.

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (Pa8uy)

161 That's what you get for talking smack about Moses.

Posted by: bluebell
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Weren't smack, was said respectfully.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (ZO497)

162 The 80's called and said 'so now you're worried? '

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (Dd0xD)

163
Gotta go walk the pooch and file some paperwork. L8r!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (pNxlR)

164 The theory for that line of thinking is that Russia provided Wikileaks with the DNC emails.

Assange has REPEATEDLY denied that Russia was his source. If thats the case.... there is NOTHING tying the Russiand to any "hacking" vis a vis the election.

Perhaps ..... we can ask some staffer like Seth Rich.

Oh..... wait.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (8XRCm)

If the DNC did use 1234 as it's password and teh FAB did not keep her private server in the bathroom, non of this would matter anyway. LMAO

And it's the russians and Trump's fault? I don't think so

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (KlI/a)

165 154 Going with the idea that Russia was the one who hacked Podesta's emails, and more than likely gained access to Hillary's private server - All that they did was EXPOSE what the Dems were doing. Shined a little light on the scumbaggery that they are.
This hacking the election frosts my stones every time I hear it. I went alone into the voting booth. Didn't have any electronics on me, nobody standing over my shoulder making sure my vote went to the "right" candidate.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (jxbfJ)

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Revealing what Democrats actually do to gain and retain power is a crime punishable by death! Or, exile from the cocktail parties, which is pretty much the same thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (elLTo)

166 Does Soros own any newspapers?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (vRcUp)

167 I only want paper ballots, even 100 years from now.
Posted by: Maritime
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I'm okay with that.

Posted by: Me, Al Franken at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (ZO497)

168 Assange has REPEATEDLY denied that Russia was his source. If thats the case.... there is NOTHING tying the Russiand to any "hacking" vis a vis the election.

Perhaps ..... we can ask some staffer like Seth Rich.

Oh..... wait.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (8XRCm)



My best guess: the DNC emails were leaked by a disgruntled Berniebot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (SRKgf)

169 144 Realtalk: the wonderwoman movie might be the first non-Nolan Batman DC based comic book movie that doesn't suck in a while. Trailers are giving vibes of the first Captain America movie.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (KUaJL)

Don't count on it. Gal Godot cannot act to save her life.
Posted by: Not Peter O'Toole at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (wNxxH)

She has two great qualities.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (0mRoj)

170 155
But then why undercut her campaign by leaking the DNC emails? Sowing distrust in the electoral system seems like a rather vague and ill-focused goal. If that were their goal, and they're the ones who got the DNC emails, they'd have been better off releasing them AFTER her election. Now that would have REALLY sown distrust of the electoral process among both conservatives and the hard Left.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:42 PM (SRKgf)

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You know what the Left has been consumed with over the last few months?

Trying to invalidate a presidential election.

Mission accomplished, methinks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (elLTo)

171 >>What's going down the memory hole is Clinton Cash corruption. Does
anyone doubt that's why the 33,000 e-mails were deleted with extreme
prejudice.


Nope, no doubt that the email server existed to support bigger crimes without the risk of it being subject to pesky FOIAs or records-keeping laws...

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (NOIQH)

172 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
..........

WE MUST GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS

Posted by: wth at May 19, 2017 12:45 PM (HgMAr)

173 I STAND BY IT
Rosenstein on memo: Comey
botched Clinton probe, had to go

Yeah, so is Mueller going to investigate comey also? Charge him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:46 PM (KlI/a)

174 Don't count on it. Gal Godot cannot act to save her life.
Posted by: Not Peter O'Toole at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (wNxxH)

She has two great qualities.


She's no Lynda Carter, in that regard or in any other.

Posted by: Crusader at May 19, 2017 12:46 PM (ewSN2)

175 James Woods is a pretty smart guy by all accounts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (SRKgf)

I read once that his IQ is 170.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 19, 2017 12:46 PM (kXoT0)

176 Does Soros own any newspapers?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (vRcUp)

Sell even soros wipes his ass sometimes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (KlI/a)

177 144 Realtalk: the wonderwoman movie might be the first non-Nolan Batman DC based comic book movie that doesn't suck in a while. Trailers are giving vibes of the first Captain America movie.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 12:18 PM (KUaJL)

Don't count on it. Gal Godot cannot act to save her life.
Posted by: Not Peter O'Toole at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (wNxxH)

==============

Early reactions came out yesterday.

They were very positive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (elLTo)

178 Just sayin'.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (uiwCw)

That's the whole scam. Laundering tax money to funnel it back to the Democrat Party.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (0mRoj)



Absolutely right. I should have finished the thought.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (SRKgf)

179 Favorite Woods films:

Once Upon a Time in America
Vampires
Videodrome

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (vRcUp)

180 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.


Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Posted by: Val-U-Rite Ltd. at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (NyJwR)

181 178 Just sayin'.
Posted by: Country Singer at May 19, 2017 12:40 PM (uiwCw)

That's the whole scam. Laundering tax money to funnel it back to the Democrat Party.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (0mRoj)


Absolutely right. I should have finished the thought.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (SRKgf)

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But opposing it means that we hate children.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:47 PM (elLTo)

182 Just what plane of existence are the people on who don't recall The Big Stimulous Package and all the magic it was supposed to perform?

Republicans aren't going to criticize it because they believe in that shit too. The original TARP, for example.

Somebody upthread lamented at the lack of GOP offense. I suspect the answer is simple ... just not a hell of a lot they can attack Dems on without wounding some of their own.

The leadership of both these parties are pro-corporate, pro-globalist, pro-centralization of power. They just disagree on the particulars.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (yOf1t)

183 Comey is 6'8" tall. How's he going to hide in the curtains?


Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:19 PM (TO4Og)
..........

especially when he keeps blowing his honker in them

Posted by: wth at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (HgMAr)

184 Until Wednesday, I used to think there was a spectrum on the Left, from clever decision-makers at the top to loyal Alinskyites in the middle to retarded sheeple voters at the bottom, with all sorts of levels and layers in between.

But on Wednesday I interacted with my extended family of leftists, who all consider themselves oh-so-very smart, but who revealed themselves to be so breathtakingly ignorant of what's really going on -- slack-jawed consumers of absurd propaganda, accepted unquestioningly, with nary an original thought in their heads.

I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's "banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.

We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.

Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

185 Does Soros own any newspapers?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:44 PM (vRcUp)


He doesn't have to. They're lefty shit all on their own

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (493sH)

186 I hope the left realizes that their current obsession may well end up in civil war. It's not that we love Trump, it's that we hate them.

Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (TppKb)

187
But then why undercut her campaign by leaking the DNC emails? Sowing distrust in the electoral system seems like a rather vague and ill-focused goal. If that were their goal, and they're the ones who got the DNC emails, they'd have been better off releasing them AFTER her election. Now that would have REALLY sown distrust of the electoral process among both conservatives and the hard Left.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

________

Also, "rational" intelligence agencies don't "dump" all the intel they have gathered.

They like to hold it back and use it when necessary.

If they release all of it, it's no longer as valuable to them.

I don't really buy the idea either that Russia would want to do it in order to "destabilize" America.

Everyone knew the DNC was strongly favoring Hillary, it really didn't shock anyone that the Establishment favored the Establishment candidate.

It seems far more likely the disgruntled Seth Rich explanation than Putin.

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (Pa8uy)

188

eh, HotAir can be funny


Hilarious: Comey really did try to blend in with the drapes so that Trump wouldn't notice him in January

http://hotair.com/

...told Mr. Wittes that he tried to blend in with the blue curtains in the back of the room, in the hopes that Mr. Trump would not spot him and call him out.

...

When I read that, I assumed Comey was joking to Wittes, maybe taking a shot at Trump's intelligence. I.e. "He's so dimwitted, I thought I could literally blend into the background right in front of him."

But no, he wasn't joking. This dude really did stand in front of blue drapes, in a blue suit, as far away from Trump as he could. There he is, all 6'8" of him, trying to be inconspicuous to great comic effect:


Comey has a lot of skeletons I suspect.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (fceHP)

189
From the sidebar--

Hottest Fashion Trend for 20something Women: Going Out to Clubs Dressed in Nothing But Strategically-Placed Black Electrical Tape
A non-dress that basically only covers your nipples and nethers for $200.


Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer and Samantha Bee walk into a bar dressed in this manner...

... the running (away) of patrons would make Pamplona blush for shame.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (pNxlR)

190 especially when he keeps blowing his honker in them

Posted by: wth at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (HgMAr)

Wait wasn't it Bill Clinton who has getting his honker blown?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (jxbfJ)

191 James Woods is a pretty smart guy by all accounts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:11 PM (SRKgf)

I read once that his IQ is 170.
Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 19, 2017 12:46 PM (kXoT0)

Thought for the day:

If we had Rosie O'Donuts IQ to that of Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer, we still get less than James Woods' IQ.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (kXoT0)

192 As to Comey and/or his employees about Russia preferring Trump, of course it makes no sense on its face, but beyond that, sadly, there is precisely zero weight to be given to such "analysis" - not just from the FBI, but from any other part of the "intel" community.

There is, generally, not a lot of there, there, when it comes to our professional analysts on topics like this. And not only because, on this particular topic, there really isn't any arcane or deep understanding required.

And as for "interference", especially the amusing bit about the USSR/Russia attempting to damage confidence in our electoral process.

Wayne County, Michigan. Turnout figures for inner-city Philadelphia precincts in 2008. Florida recount (crude, Soviet-style attempt to simply change what the ballots, and the reliable machine-counting system, showed for the result). 2008 Obama campaign foreign online donation stunt. Fanatical efforts to prevent basic (and globally recognized, and even required by the US as a donor/observer) election integrity measures (photo ID) from being adopted.

So yes, do go on, profound deep-thinking serious "analysts", about RUSSIA efforts to undermine US election integrity.

Hilarious, in the usual dark way.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (QDnY+)

193 184 Until Wednesday, I used to think there was a spectrum on the Left, from clever decision-makers at the top to loyal Alinskyites in the middle to retarded sheeple voters at the bottom, with all sorts of levels and layers in between.

But on Wednesday I interacted with my extended family of leftists, who all consider themselves oh-so-very smart, but who revealed themselves to be so breathtakingly ignorant of what's really going on -- slack-jawed consumers of absurd propaganda, accepted unquestioningly, with nary an original thought in their heads.

I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's "banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.

We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

==============

Don't throw out the tribalism angle.

Their tribe says X is bad, so they react.

Many people on our side do the same thing.

The most painful political discussions I have are with conservatives who have no idea what they're talking about.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (elLTo)

194 Why do we have 17 separate intel agencies? Just one of the many things that bug me about this whole thing.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 19, 2017 12:50 PM (kTF2Z)

195 excellent diversion by old vlad to take attention away from what the russians really have going. or, are planning. this is all the idiots have focused on for six months, at least.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 19, 2017 12:50 PM (KP5rU)

196

George Soros Still Quietly Buying District Attorneys' Seats

The left-wing billionaire turned the Philadelphia district attorney's race on its head by giving $1.45 million to fund a super PAC in support of his preferred candidate, Larry Krasner.

daily caller

this has got to stop

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:51 PM (fceHP)

197
183 Comey is 6'8" tall. How's he going to hide in the curtains?

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:19 PM (TO4Og)


The obvious therapy for his draperies' fetish is to have him get close to Moochele -- really, really close.

Cure 'im or kill 'im, I always say.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:51 PM (pNxlR)

198 I'm trying to ignore it all by learning to play Paul McCartey's "Blackbird."

From the Beatle's White Album. McCartney and his left handed guitar and his voice. Nothing else.

If you listen to it you hear the tapping beat, two different tap sounds. It's his feet on a wood floor, and a very significant part of this wonderful song.

I'm tapping with Tony Lama boots, and my right-handed guitar, which is three years newer than the 1968 album.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2017 12:51 PM (U6f54)

199 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (elLTo)

Exception to the rule. Conservative would argue with a couch. Conservative Tribalism is a rarity.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 12:51 PM (Dd0xD)

200 193
The most painful political discussions I have are with conservatives who have no idea what they're talking about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (elLTo)

==============

Example:

I went to Mark Sanford's victory party after he won his special election for the House seat, and I was talking to the owner of the bar. He backed Sanford, and I think gave a lot of money to the campaign.

He just recited talking points in conversation while not really going any deeper because he didn't know any more than that.

He was a nice guy, but I had to bite my tongue more than once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:52 PM (elLTo)

201 I just saw Bob Beckel got fired for being a racist. Heh, never could stand that ass. Maybe I'm late to the party and you've already discussed this.

2 takes: Bob Beckel did what he's accused of, and deserves to be fired for being such an ass to the help.

OR

Bob Beckel was set up by one of the ubiquitous racial grievance mongers being produced today, in which case since he always defended Democrats and Democrat's efforts to set up this system of constant race-grievances, he STILL deserves everything that happened to him today. Funny thing is that the "RACIST!" smear makes him unemployable at CNN or MSNBC, so he gone for good!

Should have listened to Dean Wormer, Bob - Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life, son!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2017 12:52 PM (p8g4F)

202 189


From the sidebar--



Hottest Fashion Trend for 20something Women: Going Out to Clubs
Dressed in Nothing But Strategically-Placed Black Electrical Tape

A non-dress that basically only covers your nipples and nethers for $200.



Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer and Samantha Bee walk into a bar dressed in this manner...



... the running (away) of patrons would make Pamplona blush for shame.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (pNxlR)

If Kate Upton or the actress who plays Jon Snow's girlfriend in GOT need someone to help them with electrical tape -- I'd gladly pay for the honor.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 12:52 PM (jxbfJ)

203 Now that Weiner is going to plead guilty, what happens to his laptop?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:52 PM (+7/1f)

204 He's just cranky he didnt get to enter into the Promised Land.
Posted by: fixerupper


No he didn't, because he smote the rock the wrong way. The Old Testament is just ... weird.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 12:52 PM (vRcUp)

205 James Woods is a pretty smart guy by all accounts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


If you consider 180 IQ, by some accounts, smart.

That's pretty damn rare. Like a couple people per million, iirc.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 12:53 PM (HTdUD)

206
183 Comey is 6'8" tall. How's he going to hide in the curtains?

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:19 PM (TO4Og)

Might have to change my punch him in the throat stategy. I had already calculated in his prior Marine status.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 12:53 PM (Dd0xD)

207 Heh, needling a lib on facebutt. I put up an article about Durango, CO being overrun with young panhandlers who come for the pot and stay for the begging.

Lib sarcastically asked if they should be jailed or killed.

I said, "We'll send them to your house."

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM (3myMJ)

208 I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's "banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.

We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

Yeppers. It's why Antifa is such a bunch of weenies--they have been led to believe that their righteous indignation can shut things down--because it works on college campuses, whose adminstrations have a vested interest in keeping these kids dumb enough to take out $50,000-$80,000 in student loans per semester. In the real world, your righteous indignation and name calling will get you knocked the fack out.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM (kXoT0)

209 205 James Woods is a pretty smart guy by all accounts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

If you consider 180 IQ, by some accounts, smart.

That's pretty damn rare. Like a couple people per million, iirc.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 12:53 PM (HTdUD)

==============

I think I'm somewhere between 130 and 140. But that was from a handful of online IQ tests ten years ago.

Also, doing well on IQ tests proves one thing: You're good a taking IQ tests.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM (elLTo)

210 We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)


I think that there are clever decision-makers at the top, but the rest are brain-dead nitwits who parrot the Party line.

I used to see this in college: one night the hard Left's leaders would meet privately in the common area of an adjacent dorm. The next day, voila! A new issue, and a new campaign would be born.

You must this all the time at Berkeley.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM (SRKgf)

211 "What's going down the memory hole is Clinton Cash corruption. Does
anyone doubt that's why the 33,000 e-mails were deleted with extreme
prejudice."



Do you realize how many people were e-mailing her and her top aides and knowing darn well that classified information was going to an unauthorized server? Anybody want to guess what governmental positions - and who was occupying those positions - that were in the address positions on her e-mails? Anybody want to wonder why no one in higher up official Washington really wanted to prosecute her for this?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet presents Ace and the Scream Machine at the County Fairgrounds at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM (hLRSq)

212 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.
Good way to end the week.

---

did he NOT sexually harass Kim?

-
He was after some NorK nookie?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM (Nwg0u)

213 especially when he keeps blowing his honker in them

Posted by: wth at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (HgMAr)

Wait wasn't it Bill Clinton who has getting his honker blown?
Posted by: Our Country
-----------

AoSHQ Stylebook was revised yesterday, current word is 'Tooter'

Posted by: m at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (ZO497)

214 22 My leftist co-workers (which is basically all of them) were all going on and on about impeachment yesterday in the office.

Ugh. Glad I normally work at home and only rarely have to go to the office.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 12:14 PM (ul9CR)
==========

I got sick of mine yesterday and just got up and left for the day. No one said anything.

Mine weren't talking about Trump though. It was about how beautiful, wonderful, smart, etc Gloria Steinem is.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (vg8iE)

215
"If you consider 180 IQ, by some accounts, smart."

It's been my experience that people that people that intelligent are sometimes responsible for giant fuckups.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (3myMJ)

216 163
Gotta go walk the pooch and file some paperwork. L8r!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:43 PM (pNxlR)

What's that a euphemism for? Should I go to Urban Dictionary?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (hJrjt)

217 207; embrace the power of "and." fuck em.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (KP5rU)

218

New Orleans Removes Statue Of Robert E. Lee

On Friday, the city of New Orleans is removing a 20-foot statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Lee's statue is the fourth and last of Confederate-related statues that the city has removed, although unlike the others, Lee's statue will be taken down during the day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (fceHP)

219 The obvious therapy for his draperies' fetish is to have him get close to Moochele -- really, really close.

---

I saw it in the window and i could resist

Posted by: Scarlett Comey, booger smuggler at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (h/uSM)

220 The best approach I've found when casually chatting with a prog is to ask about the crime. Exactly what is Trump accused of?

And about the hate. Who is being targeted with hatred and exactly how?

If it's illegals I ask what's OK with being illegal?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (U6f54)

221 Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer and Samantha Bee walk into a bar dressed in this manner...

... the running (away) of patrons would make Pamplona blush for shame.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 19, 2017 12:49 PM (pNxlR)

Even duct tape cannot handle the FUPA and cellulite on those lovelies.

Posted by: Sherry McEvil, Stiletto Corsettes, who is now luxuriating in vast pools of winning! at May 19, 2017 12:56 PM (kXoT0)

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Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2017 12:56 PM (oVJmc)

223 The Russian Orthodox are coming! The Russian Orthodox are coming!

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 12:27 PM (TO4Og)



That means Patriarchyate.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM


I am to be fixing that for you.

Posted by: Father Vasilly at May 19, 2017 12:57 PM (p+Wdc)

224 You can tell James Woods is intelligent by the size of his forehead.

Posted by: Peyton Manning at May 19, 2017 12:57 PM (vRcUp)

225 203 Now that Weiner is going to plead guilty, what happens to his laptop?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 12:52 PM (+7/1f)

========

The contents will be downloaded to government servers so that government employees now have a wonderland of porn to watch at work.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 19, 2017 12:57 PM (vg8iE)

226 Like a bad penny:

House leaders worry more meetings secretly recorded

"The most widespread theory in House leadership is that the secret recorder and the leaker was Evan McMullin, who as a former leadership aide participated in the June 15 conversation and confirmed the private conversation to the Washington Post. (I am told that the Post, in their back-and-forth with leadership over the story, privately said that the source wasn't McMullin. There's no evidence that he was the leaker and I've reached out to him for comment.)"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 12:57 PM (udajc)

227
New Orleans Removes Statue Of Robert E. Lee

On Friday, the city of New Orleans is removing a 20-foot statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Lee's statue is the fourth and last of Confederate-related statues that the city has removed, although unlike the others, Lee's statue will be taken down during the day.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (fceHP)

What's becoming of these statues? Are they being sold for scrap metal? Shameful.

Posted by: josephistan at May 19, 2017 12:57 PM (7HtZB)

228 "Mine weren't talking about Trump though. It was about how beautiful, wonderful, smart, etc Gloria Steinem is."

geesh! where the heck do you work?

Posted by: DanMan at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (XTiHL)

229 We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

I do internet dating... and my profile is very explicit about me being a Manly Man who thinks like a Man, and does Manly stuff...

Oh, and I'm not a Metro... oh and I hate political correctness... I even quote John Wayne...

Soooo... Lady from San Fran sends me a text... cute... nice rear end... look at her profile... San Francisco Liberal College Professor...

OK... this could be fun... so I answer, explaining that I'm probably a WHOLE lot more conservative than her, and that I don't trust Modern Education because the only way you get ahead is by parroting what your professor, who also has probably never done anything in the real world... says...

Her response is she is apolitical, but hates people like Anne Coulter... that she supports free speech BUT....

I point out that anytime someone says 'sorry but' its not an apology, but an explanation, and anytime anyone says 'I support free speech but'... they don't...

Annnndddd... did you even bother to read my profile?

Her response? Well... I was looking for a 'nice guy' and could not find one here....

/facepalm....

Total absolute lack of self awareness.... its a hall mark of the Left...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (NgKpN)

230 We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

Problem is, yes or no, they are capable of causing huge amounts of damage, and are.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (65ECI)

231 215
"If you consider 180 IQ, by some accounts, smart."

It's been my experience that people that people that intelligent are sometimes responsible for giant fuckups.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (3myMJ)

==============

IQ tests seem to be about problem solving. There's nothing about character, values, or priorities.

High IQ does not equal someone who should lead.

Some of our worst presidents (I'm gonna hate on Quincy Adams again) were also some of our smartest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (elLTo)

232 Lena Dunham, Amy Schumer and Samantha Bee walk into a bar dressed in this manner...

----

You CANNOT hold cottage cheese together with electrical tape.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (8XRCm)

233 210 We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

I said yesterday that the Left believe they are the smartest person in the room. Even if they are smart , this defect makes it easier to identify their bullshit because they think everyone else is dumb and they are careless.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (Dd0xD)

234 228 "Mine weren't talking about Trump though. It was about how beautiful, wonderful, smart, etc Gloria Steinem is."

geesh! where the heck do you work?

Posted by: DanMan at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (XTiHL)

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Hell.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (vg8iE)

235 "Of course the owner of this hat is an intellectual. It wouldn't be so big, if there were nothing to fill it" - Sherlock Holmes

Posted by: Peyton Manning at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (vRcUp)

236
New Orleans Removes Statue Of Robert E. Lee

On Friday, the city of New Orleans is removing a 20-foot statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Lee's statue is the fourth and last of Confederate-related statues that the city has removed, although unlike the others, Lee's statue will be taken down during the day.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (fceHP)

When will the SJW mob hear the word "no?" Will they recognize it?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (hJrjt)

237 "If you consider 180 IQ, by some accounts, smart."

It's been my experience that people that people that intelligent are sometimes responsible for giant fuckups.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (3myMJ)

It's because dumb people's stupid actions have consequences that are limited to themselves and their immediate surroundings. Because when a dumb person declares that they're going to do something dumb, people think "that's a really stupid idea. I'm getting as far out of the line of fire as possible." When a smart person has a dumb idea, they can convince lots of other people that the dumb idea is actually smart "well, they're pretty smart and usually know what they're talking about, so I guess they're right, even if this doesn't make sense to me" and thus the smart person's dumb action is much more dangerously dumb.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (KUaJL)

238 184 Until Wednesday, I used to think there was a spectrum on the Left, from clever decision-makers at the top to loyal Alinskyites in the middle to retarded sheeple voters at the bottom, with all sorts of levels and layers in between.

But on Wednesday I interacted with my extended family of leftists, who all consider themselves oh-so-very smart, but who revealed themselves to be so breathtakingly ignorant of what's really going on -- slack-jawed consumers of absurd propaganda, accepted unquestioningly, with nary an original thought in their heads.

I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's "banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.

We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.

Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)


They believed everything that came out of the mouths of Jonathan Gruber and Ben Rhodes.

That alone disqualifies them from having any level of critical intelligence.

The vast majority of leftists I've known personally are IT Code Monkeys, and some of them are making infuriatingly good money (for the Mid-Atlantic region anyway) doing it.

But for all their coding and mathematical prowess, they still can't seem to think for themselves at all.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (ULi11)

239 What's becoming of these statues? Are they being sold for scrap metal? Shameful.

They're going to be "stored" to be displayed "someplace" at a "later" time.
I'm sure they'll get right on that.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (qJhUV)

240 "If you consider 180 IQ, by some accounts, smart."

It's been my experience that people that people that intelligent are sometimes responsible for giant fuckups.

Posted by: Meremortal


Absolutely. It's like having an eight hundred horsepower automobile. Some people can figure out how to handle that much power, while others smoke the tires in a fiery burnout and immediately plow into a utility pole - day after day.

All I get is a tire 'chirp' -- before running into the utility pole - day after day.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (HTdUD)

241 203 Now that Weiner is going to plead guilty, what happens to his laptop?

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it'll be getting less action. his lapbottom on the other hand...

Posted by: Scarlett Comey, booger smuggler at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (h/uSM)

242 "The most widespread theory in House leadership is that the secret recorder and the leaker was Evan McMullin, who as a former leadership aide participated in the June 15 conversation and confirmed the private conversation to the Washington Post. (I am told that the Post, in their back-and-forth with leadership over the story, privately said that the source wasn't McMullin. There's no evidence that he was the leaker and I've reached out to him for comment.)"
Posted by: weft cut-loop

_______


Maybe McMullin is doing the country a favor revealing what our glorious congressional Republicans really think?

It's not even about ideology anymore, our leadership is absolutely worthless.

Trump should have asked Paul Ryan to step down after the Election, I think he had the gravitas at that time to do it and Congressional Republicans would have yielded.

Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (Pa8uy)

243 238 They believed everything that came out of the mouths of Jonathan Gruber and Ben Rhodes.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:00 PM (ULi11)

==============

"Man, Americans were stupid to believe me."
-Gruber

"We didn't believe you."
-Conservatives

"Man, you're so dumb!"
-Liberals

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (elLTo)

244 OT/ Last night in one of my dreams I was watching a fictional clip of President Reagan where he was exhibiting obvious dementia.. briefly forgetting where he was and what he was talking about.

Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (Hnqc1)

245
107 I can't see Putin wanting Trump over Clinton, UNLESS, he saw a need for some stability in the West, and a partner to try to control the Mid East...
Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:30 PM (NgKpN

As I said The 'Word" was not that Putin was taking sides in the election at all. It was only that for some reason he had a hard on for The FAB.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 12:32 PM (KlI/a)


---------------

All of this about Russia is a fabrication by the Hildebeast's campaign and the MFM (but I repeat myself). Let's not perpetuate the meme.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (Fmupd)

246 What's becoming of these statues? Are they being sold for scrap metal? Shameful.

Posted by: josephistan at May 19, 2017 12:57 PM (7HtZB)

As for the statues themselves, the city said it has received offers from public and private institutions to take individual monuments; only nonprofits and governmental entities will qualify. The city insisted that anyone who submits a proposal must explain how they would "place the statues in context both in terms of why they were first erected and why the city chose to remove them in 2015." They are banned from displaying them outdoors on public property within the city.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (fceHP)

247 When will the SJW mob hear the word "no?" Will they recognize it?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (hJrjt)



They heard it in November of 2016 and went into hysterics over it. Hence the Russians stole the election and other assorted bullshit and riots

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (493sH)

248 236


New Orleans Removes Statue Of Robert E. Lee



On Friday, the city of New Orleans is removing a 20-foot statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.



Lee's statue is the fourth and last of Confederate-related statues
that the city has removed, although unlike the others, Lee's statue will
be taken down during the day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (fceHP)



When will the SJW mob hear the word "no?" Will they recognize it?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (hJrjt)

It's New Orleans. A Dem stronghold (read: SJW infected).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (jxbfJ)

249 Weiner's junk made him do it. He should confess "my penis and testicles made me do it. CUT THEM OFF FOR GOODNESS' SAKE. Give me a vagina!"

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (vRcUp)

250 Some of our worst presidents (I'm gonna hate on Quincy Adams again) were also some of our smartest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (elLTo)

No need to confine the hate to Adams. Woodrow Wilson (a PhD) and Barky McFuckstick (MSM proclaimed smartest guy evah) come to mind.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (i0ykY)

251 I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's "banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.

We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.

Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)


I feel like there has to be some degree of intellectual atrophy at play. I'm sure that there were plenty of really smart leftists, but when your views aren't seriously challenged, you stop having to think critically, and get lazy. Even worse, because everyone around you keeps telling you how right you are, you don't ever get the negative feedback to check yourself and try to rethink anything.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:03 PM (KUaJL)

252 250 Some of our worst presidents (I'm gonna hate on Quincy Adams again) were also some of our smartest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (elLTo)

No need to confine the hate to Adams. Woodrow Wilson (a PhD) and Barky McFuckstick (MSM proclaimed smartest guy evah) come to mind.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (i0ykY)

============

Of course. I stand appended.

I tend to limit my criticisms of presidents until I actually read in depth about them. I'm going in order. I'm on Lincoln now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:03 PM (elLTo)

253 I believe the fabulous Mr. Yiannopoulus will "flame" out within a few more months.
Posted by: Jen at February 20, 2017 01:56 PM (cWhln)


Interviewed by the Today Show
https://youtu.be/GdfLxmJ7u-E
The result was fluffy and short, but oh well
https://youtu.be/16BkghaeJp0

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (VdICR)

254 Trump should have asked Paul Ryan to step down after the Election, I think he had the gravitas at that time to do it and Congressional Republicans would have yielded.
Posted by: Maritime


Trump should have moved the White House to Des Moines and shut down DotGov.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (udajc)

255 251 I feel like there has to be some degree of intellectual atrophy at play. I'm sure that there were plenty of really smart leftists, but when your views aren't seriously challenged, you stop having to think critically, and get lazy. Even worse, because everyone around you keeps telling you how right you are, you don't ever get the negative feedback to check yourself and try to rethink anything.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:03 PM (KUaJL)

================

This is my theory of Obama.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (elLTo)

256 >>What's becoming of these statues? Are they being sold for scrap metal? Shameful.


They're going to a slavery-themed park. Seriously.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (NOIQH)

257 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2017 12:56 PM (oVJmc)

Coffee. Everywhere.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (0mRoj)

258 Last night in one of my dreams I was watching a fictional clip of President Reagan where he was exhibiting obvious dementia.. briefly forgetting where he was and what he was talking about.
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (Hnqc1)

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You dream about Reagan? You're so lucky.

I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (h/uSM)

259 196, "George Soros Still Quietly Buying District Attorneys' Seats"

Link.

http://tinyurl.com/khsd377

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 19, 2017 01:05 PM (d3wbb)

260 258 Last night in one of my dreams I was watching a fictional clip of President Reagan where he was exhibiting obvious dementia.. briefly forgetting where he was and what he was talking about.
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (Hnqc1)

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You dream about Reagan? You're so lucky.

I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (h/uSM)

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Dreams? What a luxury!

I don't sleep long enough for dreams.

(Seriously, I slept for about 4 hours last night)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:05 PM (elLTo)

261 Multiculturalism.

http://tinyurl.com/ktvfepp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 19, 2017 01:05 PM (Nwg0u)

262 250 Some of our worst presidents (I'm gonna hate on Quincy Adams again) were also some of our smartest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (elLTo)

No need to confine the hate to Adams. Woodrow Wilson (a PhD) and Barky McFuckstick (MSM proclaimed smartest guy evah) come to mind.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (i0ykY)

The most intelligent people (at least as intelligence is defined in the media) are best confined to academia where they can spout off about other people who have accomplishments the intelligentsia can only write about.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (hJrjt)

263 I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (h/uSM)

This model... does she happen to have a sister?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (KUaJL)

264 245 All of this about Russia is a fabrication by the Hildebeast's campaign and the MFM (but I repeat myself). Let's not perpetuate the meme.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (Fmupd)


Oh, I don't doubt that Putin hates Shrillary Killary.

Does anybody NOT hate Shrillary Killary?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (ULi11)

265 OT/ Last night in one of my dreams I was watching a fictional clip of President Reagan where he was exhibiting obvious dementia.. briefly forgetting where he was and what he was talking about.

Posted by: Serious Cat


You were watching the second season of 'Fargo' -- which went out of its way to paint Reagan as demented. Gratuitous slaps that had nothing the f_ck to do with the story.

Also, might just coincidentally be why there was not a third season of 'Fargo'.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (HTdUD)

266 I don't believe IQ and ideology have much correlation.

Most people land on politics for how it benefits them.

If someone is say really intelligent but REALLY hates religion, they are going to identify as "liberals" even if they understand the benefits of the free market because a "secular" society is most important to them.

Same with say professors that are say really smart in their field, they identify as Democrats because that is their tribe and they are government workers. IF they worked in say the private sector, they would be more likely to identify with Republicans with the same IQ.

That's sort of a big reason why it behooves Republicans to shrink government so less people associate themselves with the Party of Government



Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (Pa8uy)

267 256 >>What's becoming of these statues? Are they being sold for scrap metal? Shameful.


They're going to a slavery-themed park. Seriously.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (NOIQH)

A slavery theme park? Ride the Underground Railway roller coaster! Find chills and thrills in Simon Legree's fun house! And be sure to stick around for our 3:00PM cotton picking contest!

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (0mRoj)

268 We didn't mean THOSE foreign influences, just foreign influences that help Republicans!

Posted by: The Left at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (1Rgee)

269
Heh, needling a lib on facebutt. I put up an article about Durango, CO
being overrun with young panhandlers who come for the pot and stay for
the begging.



Lib sarcastically asked if they should be jailed or killed.



I said, "We'll send them to your house."

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 12:54 PM



I lived not far from there for 30 years and drove the 45 minutes to Durango once or twice a month for dinner or concerts or whatever. I went back for my niece's wedding a while ago. There were always a lot of hippie looking people in addition to large numbers of tourists hanging around the street but it is infinitely more pungent these days.

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (TO4Og)

270 but when your views aren't seriously challenged, you stop having to think critically, and get lazy. Even worse, because everyone around you keeps telling you how right you are, you don't ever get the negative feedback to check yourself and try to rethink anything.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:03 PM (KUaJL)



In many ways the story of Obama

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (493sH)

271 Someone once described Russian/Soviet Foreign policy to that of a hotel thief.

They try every door knob, to see if one is unlocked.

Prefer Trump over Hillary? Who knows? I don't.

But because they thought they could fiddle-faddle with things ( apparently the most devious thing they did was plant FAKE NEWS stories on Facebook- ZOUNDS!), they did. They screw around all over the world, when possible, to gain some kind of tactical advantage for themselves.

It doesn't always have to make sense.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (RFeQD)

272 The bigger question - Did Iran finance BO's 2008 presidential campaign with thousands of cash Internet contributions?

Posted by: Terry Phillips at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (D6lW7)

273 260 258 Last night in one of my dreams I was watching a fictional clip of President Reagan where he was exhibiting obvious dementia.. briefly forgetting where he was and what he was talking about.
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 19, 2017 01:01 PM (Hnqc1)

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You dream about Reagan? You're so lucky.

I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (h/uSM)

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Dreams? What a luxury!

I don't sleep long enough for dreams.

(Seriously, I slept for about 4 hours last night)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:05 PM (elLTo)

Dreams are on the indications of sound sleep, which is necessary to good health, which is a topic more suitable for the GAINZZZZZ thread.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:08 PM (hJrjt)

274 272 The bigger question - Did Iran finance BO's 2008 presidential campaign with thousands of cash Internet contributions?
Posted by: Terry Phillips at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (D6lW7)

=================

Imagine a world where and independent council actually took "foreign meddling in elections" that far.

Le sigh...

*looks off dreamily into the distance*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:09 PM (elLTo)

275 Oklahoma is like one big storm magnet today.

At the rate it's going, DFW isn't gonna get a drop.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 19, 2017 01:09 PM (65ECI)

276 263 I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (h/uSM)

This model... does she happen to have a sister?
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:06 PM (KUaJL)

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identical twin. But if you gets their names wrong it turns into a nightmare.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:09 PM (h/uSM)

277 The bigger question - Did Iran finance BO's 2008 presidential campaign with thousands of cash Internet contributions?

Posted by: Terry Phillips at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (D6lW7)

Yes. And they provided him with a handler in the form of ValJar, although she was in place long before 2008.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:09 PM (i0ykY)

278 273 Dreams are on the indications of sound sleep, which is necessary to good health, which is a topic more suitable for the GAINZZZZZ thread.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:08 PM (hJrjt)

===============

It's not that healthy, but it's a choice at this point.

The A's game went until 1:30. And they actually won. It was a rare even that needed witness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:09 PM (elLTo)

279 270 but when your views aren't seriously challenged, you stop having to think critically, and get lazy. Even worse, because everyone around you keeps telling you how right you are, you don't ever get the negative feedback to check yourself and try to rethink anything.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:03 PM (KUaJL)



In many ways the story of Obama
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:07 PM (493sH)

Special snowflakes are being told they don't ever have to hear opinions contrary to their own. A previous generation needed drugs to destroy their brains; now professors are doing it for them.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (hJrjt)

280 Why even bother investigating NGOs unless it is to shut them down completely.

They're all hives of leftist scum and villainy and there is ample evidence they do more harm than good in the countries they're trying to "help".

It's just a bunch of noodle armed trust funders virtue signalling their street cred by spending five minutes in an African village while they spend the rest of their time taking photos of their gay food and fist bumping with their co-shitheads back home.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (4ErVI)

281 I actually had a dream about Trump not long before Super Tuesday, and I believe that was the only time I have ever had a dream about a political figure.

In the dream I was some sort of mid-level Trump campaign worker and he was coming to congratulate us on his winning the nomination (again, this was pre-Super Tuesday), tell us what a great job we were doing and telling us how we were going all the way in the general.

The really strange thing is, I was on Team Ted at the time. I think my subconscious was trying to tell me Trump was going to win the nomination and to give up on teh Cruzinator.

In the dream, I specifically remembered Trump being very tall and very expensively dressed, wearing expensive cologne. Again, all subconscious indicators I think. Like, he;s The Boss, he's going to Win.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (ul9CR)

282 And be sure to stick around for our 3:00PM cotton picking contest!

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you have to be This Black to ride that ride...

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (h/uSM)

283 No need to confine the hate to Adams. Woodrow Wilson (a PhD) and Barky McFuckstick (MSM proclaimed smartest guy evah) come to mind.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead


Barack was a phony conjured up by the wishful thinking of the white guilt crowd. Wilson's PhD was in political science. No need to bring those two idiot fucksticks into a discussion over smart presidents. I think Jefferson was a polymath. He's probably the smartest. Or maybe Trump, is the smartest given his wealth.

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (vRcUp)

284 with twitter down, how will I know what to sperg about?

Posted by: the dude at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (SyKbw)

285 Let's not forget about Ted Kennedy, Satan's barbed cock be in him, offering to undermine Reagan on the Soviet Union's behalf.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (0mRoj)

286 A slavery theme park? Ride the Underground Railway roller coaster! Find chills and thrills in Simon Legree's fun house! And be sure to stick around for our 3:00PM cotton picking contest!

---

don't forget the plantation escape!

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (h/uSM)

287 Aaaagh. Traitor tranny sock off.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (vRcUp)

288 285 Let's not forget about Ted Kennedy, Satan's barbed cock be in him, offering to undermine Reagan on the Soviet Union's behalf.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (0mRoj)

==============

Prosecute his estate and confiscate all holdings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (elLTo)

289 >>I actually had a dream about Trump not long before Super Tuesday


That one where he flies in through your window?

Posted by: Montgomery Burns at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (/0dcw)

290 identical twin. But if you gets their names wrong it turns into a nightmare.

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:09 PM


Hmmm....hot identical twins.

Not sure if this came from the HQ originally, or just the strange, deep rabbit hole that is my YouTube sidebar, but anyway...

Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcs4zPR-gg

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 19, 2017 01:12 PM (p+Wdc)

291 Fox fired Bob Beckel again.

..........



WE MUST GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS

Posted by: wth at May 19, 2017 12:45 PM (HgMAr)
*
Heh Me and the Mrs. were just saying the guy is annoying as fuck, been acting stranger than usual as well.
Lets hope this firing sticks.

Posted by: dananjcon at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (WLK0w)

292

heh.

Russian Embassy Implicates Hillary In Tweet Asking: "Who Killed Seth Rich?"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (fceHP)

293 >>>I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.

if you can master the ability for lucid dreaming, you can have sex with anyone...

:::pauses mid-sentence, stares at nothing, runs out of the room:::

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (DNeh8)

294 255 This is my theory of Obama.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (elLTo)


I don't think Obama is particulary intelligent. In his case, it is more that he has been groomed LITERALLY SINCE CONCEPTION to be a politician. Everywhere he was sent, every person he encountered (from Lolo Soetoro, to Frank Marshall Davis, to that Muslim Lawyer in Chicago that funded his education, to Jeremiah Wright, to Valerie Jarrett), it was all to engineer an ideological robot who never swayed nor een questioned. Even Stanley Ann's choice of who to get pregnant by was to make sure she had a multi-culti child to steep in Marxism.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (ULi11)

295 248 236


New Orleans Removes Statue Of Robert E. Lee



On Friday, the city of New Orleans is removing a 20-foot statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.



Lee's statue is the fourth and last of Confederate-related statues
that the city has removed, although unlike the others, Lee's statue will
be taken down during the day.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 12:55 PM (fceHP)



When will the SJW mob hear the word "no?" Will they recognize it?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 12:59 PM (hJrjt)

It's New Orleans. A Dem stronghold (read: SJW infected).
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 01:02 PM (jxbfJ)



jOnce again, i really have to hand it to the Democrats,

they truly understand customer (voter) service.


Now locked out of federal gov't power, they look around for some bit of fan service they can provide for their voters to keep them pumped up and onboard.

The actual value of removing a 100 yr old statue - Zero.

The "rah-rah for our side fuck you" value for keeping Democrats onboard - Priceless.

In the same situation, Republican dumbasses just pissed and moaned about what they couldn't do.

Now, with the Federal Gov't in their hands, the Republicans piss and moan about what they can't do.

Same same. No matter what.

See the difference?

That's why it must be awesome to be a Democrat.

Yeah, you're a progtard BUT you know once your team is in power-

they'll do whatever idiotic thing you want. Every. Single. Time.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (NyJwR)

296 "131 By the way the prosecutors in the weiner case want 2 years for him...Sentencing on Sept 8th"

You mean Carlos Danger, Chuckie's protege, Hillary's top aide's husband?

But seriously has he been charged and tried, or has he plead guilty?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (LeUrG)

297 I thought that IQs above 160 were just a guess anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (LTHVh)

298 294 255 This is my theory of Obama.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (elLTo)


I don't think Obama is particulary intelligent. In his case, it is more that he has been groomed LITERALLY SINCE CONCEPTION to be a politician. Everywhere he was sent, every person he encountered (from Lolo Soetoro, to Frank Marshall Davis, to that Muslim Lawyer in Chicago that funded his education, to Jeremiah Wright, to Valerie Jarrett), it was all to engineer an ideological robot who never swayed nor een questioned. Even Stanley Ann's choice of who to get pregnant by was to make sure she had a multi-culti child to steep in Marxism.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (ULi11)

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I love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (elLTo)

299 The rumor is the Wonder Woman movie is not very good. Midnight Edge on Youtube has been reliably correct in the past.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (VdICR)

300 293 >>>I only dream about sex with Victoria's Secret models.

if you can master the ability for lucid dreaming, you can have sex with anyone...

:::pauses mid-sentence, stares at nothing, runs out of the room:::

---

BRB, i'll be in Gal Godots bunk

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (h/uSM)

301

the Russian Embassy Tweet

http://preview.tinyurl.com/lt6gdnj

heh, Hillary in the backdrop

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (fceHP)

302 299 The rumor is the Wonder Woman movie is not very good. Midnight Edge on Youtube has been reliably correct in the past.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (VdICR)

=============

Initial reactions:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/wonder-woman-first-reactions-are-superb/

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (elLTo)

303 Bob Beckle is a douche but is he that dumb that he would say in a non joking manner ' I'm leaving the room because that guy is black.' ?

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (Dd0xD)

304 Also, might just coincidentally be why there was not a third season of 'Fargo'.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum


The 3rd season premiered on April 19th. The last episodes is expected on June 21st.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (udajc)

305 If I was Russia, I would want Hillary. Russia's main global weapon is oil, which Administration is going to strangle America's fracking revolution?
Posted by: Maritime at May 19, 2017 12:23 PM (Pa8uy)

The ""Word" on the street is that Putin hates The FAB. I think she said some pretty nasty things about him ( not that I give a rat's ass, just informational) and he hates her. And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.


__________________
^ this
You have to understand the russian mentality.
They will hurt themselves +1 to hurt you +10

I worked for russian americans. Loved it. they leave you the hell alone and let you do your job.

Posted by: Fox at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (TFUTH)

306 In his case, it is more that he has been groomed LITERALLY SINCE CONCEPTION to be a politician.
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As well as to suck cock.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 19, 2017 01:15 PM (vg8iE)

307 298 294 255 This is my theory of Obama.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:04 PM (elLTo)


I don't think Obama is particulary intelligent. In his case, it is more that he has been groomed LITERALLY SINCE CONCEPTION to be a politician. Everywhere he was sent, every person he encountered (from Lolo Soetoro, to Frank Marshall Davis, to that Muslim Lawyer in Chicago that funded his education, to Jeremiah Wright, to Valerie Jarrett), it was all to engineer an ideological robot who never swayed nor een questioned. Even Stanley Ann's choice of who to get pregnant by was to make sure she had a multi-culti child to steep in Marxism.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (ULi11)

=================

I love it when a plan comes together.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (elLTo)

It sure does seem he was groomed for a long time. If true that's, umm, kind of unsettling.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (hJrjt)

308 I don't think Obama is particulary intelligent.

One of the few academic facts that we do know about Barry Soetoro is that he wasn't even a Semifinalist in National Merit.

A genius he is not.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (LTHVh)

309 296 "131 By the way the prosecutors in the weiner case want 2 years for him...Sentencing on Sept 8th"

You mean Carlos Danger, Chuckie's protege, Hillary's top aide's husband?

But seriously has he been charged and tried, or has he plead guilty?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (LeUrG)

He pled.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (0mRoj)

310 Can we twist the knife and somehow sue Ted Kennedy's estate for his efforts to get the USSR to meddle in the 1984 election?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Excellent idea.

Especially since the Kennedy estate will most likely settle by paying us off with hookers and blow.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (vmkEw)

311 I think Jefferson was a polymath. He's probably the smartest. Or maybe Trump, is the smartest given his wealth.

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (vRcUp)


Theodore Roosevelt was not an intellectual slouch. Nor was William Howard Taft.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet presents Ace and the Scream Machine at the County Fairgrounds at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (hLRSq)

312 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (elLTo)

Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Bart Simpson at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (i0ykY)

313 Barack was a phony conjured up by the wishful thinking of the white guilt crowd. Wilson's PhD was in political science. No need to bring those two idiot fucksticks into a discussion over smart presidents. I think Jefferson was a polymath. He's probably the smartest. Or maybe Trump, is the smartest given his wealth.

Posted by: Chelsea Manning at May 19, 2017 01:10 PM (vRcUp)

I never got the whole Muh Smartest stuff anyway. Who the frick cares? I'll take a patriot who works hard and has an understanding of people over some dickhead who knows how to take tests.

I'm one of those people who can easily take tests. Give me a test and I can easily pass it. I have a knack for taking tests. And I'm smaht too according to all the tests. Near genius supposedly and believe me you wouldn't want me anywhere near the Oval Office. I don't have what it takes to do that job at the level it requires.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (4ErVI)

314 310 Can we twist the knife and somehow sue Ted Kennedy's estate for his efforts to get the USSR to meddle in the 1984 election?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Excellent idea.

Especially since the Kennedy estate will most likely settle by paying us off with hookers and blow.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (vmkEw)

===============

I want their scotch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (elLTo)

315 I thought that IQs above 160 were just a guess anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C)


I've always wondered if there was a time component to IQ tests, because I can figure out the answer to any test, given enough time.

People with high and even higher IQ's don't need that much time.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (HTdUD)

316 312 Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:11 PM (elLTo)

Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: Bart Simpson at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (i0ykY)

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Here's a link:

http://tinyurl.com/q3yj7jb

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (elLTo)

317 Obama had a wonderful talent at self-promotion.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 01:18 PM (+7/1f)

318 315 I thought that IQs above 160 were just a guess anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

I've always wondered if there was a time component to IQ tests, because I can figure out the answer to any test, given enough time.

People with high and even higher IQ's don't need that much time.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (HTdUD)

===============

I know that time is part of the test score.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:18 PM (elLTo)

319 Even Stanley Ann's choice of who to get pregnant by was to make sure she had a multi-culti child to steep in Marxism.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:13 PM (ULi11)



Hmm..that's more credit than I'd give her. I saw her as a commie whore who spread her legs for whatever was around.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:18 PM (493sH)

320 Just had a 14 year old graduate from TCU with a degree in Physics. Surprised not more reporting since he is a person of color. Probably because he was homeschooled.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:18 PM (Dd0xD)

321 If they had put some beads and loose paisley shirts on those statues they'd have been golden.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (3myMJ)

322 I think I'm somewhere between 130 and 140. But that was from a handful of online IQ tests ten years ago.

Also, doing well on IQ tests proves one thing: You're good a taking IQ tests.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


When I was very young, my father was training to be a social worker. Part of his job was going to be determining whether his clients counted as "mentally retarded" (as it was called back then -- "developmentally disabled" I guess in the new term). To that end, in order to get the promotion he wanted, he needed to become an expert in administering the IQ test to people. And he had to train -- he was required to practice giving the test something like 50 times (like an internship) in order to get certified as a IQ Test Administrator.

So he for a while there was always looking for volunteer test subjects, so he could practice. After a while, he ended up just practicing on us kids.

As a result, over a period of several months when I was about 5 or 6 years old, my dad "administered" the IQ tests on me and my sister, over and over and over. It wasn't for the purpose of actually testing our scores, but so that he could become an expert at giving it. But by the end of it, holy god, my sister and I had the damn test basically memorized. We knew all the answers and could do it on our sleep.

Fast forward about 9 years to tenth grade, where as part of some statewide school ranking initiative, everyone in my high school was given an IQ test. Again, it wasn't for the purpose of "tracking," but instead for the statisticians so they could figure out how to allocate money to each district, etc. They weren't even going to tell each individual kid our scores -- it was just for the administrators.

So we all filed it to take the test, and lo and behold -- it was the same test I had memorized when I was 6 years old! I hadn't thought of it in the intervening years, but it all quickly came rushing back.

Rather than informing my homeroom teacher that I should recuse myself from the test, I decided to punk the school district and actually take the test, just to blow their minds.

As I learned back when I was 6, your score is partly based on how fast you complete it (although the test-giver never tells you this: "Take as much time as you need," etc.), in addition to how many things you get "right."

So I blew through the entire IQ test in about 20 minutes (supposed to be a 90 minute test), getting 100% of the questions correct.

Turned it in, and tried to suppress a smile.

I thought that was the end of it -- there would just be this hilarious one test result that was off the charts, by some unknown student, which would "freak out" the school administrators. That was my satisfaction, imaging the looks on their faces.

But no. My homeroom teacher was able to remember that it was me who turned in that test, and one day about a week later I was called to the principal's office. Several people in suits and awed expressions on their faces were in the room as well, with clipboards.

They told me in hushed tones that I basically had the highest IQ ever recorded, and that they were going to set up a special program just for me.

It was only THEN that I told them the truth, that I "already knew" the test and that I was therefore untestable, because the test is only valid if one didn't already know the answers.

The punchline? THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE ME. They thought I was trying to be modest.

I totally rejected their "offer" of special treatment, and just walked out the meeting without permission, basically telling them to go screw themselves, I wanted to stay in my regular classes with my friends.

That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the best score in the history of the IQ test.

Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

323 I don't use twitter anymore, but I did get James Woods to follow me a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (kTF2Z)

324 must explain how they would "place the statues in context both in terms of why they were first erected and why the city chose to remove them in 2015."

1. He was the best general in the Confederacy, and this was the second largest city in that Confederacy.
2. The city is currently being run by mindless twatwaffles.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2017 01:20 PM (326rv)

325 OT- I just saw the NY car rundown video on WZ. Fuck that guy deserves at least life in prison or capital punishment. Not just drunk driving, he meant to kill lots of people.

Posted by: USNtakim at May 19, 2017 01:20 PM (zZWkn)

326 322
I totally rejected their "offer" of special treatment, and just walked out the meeting without permission, basically telling them to go screw themselves, I wanted to stay in my regular classes with my friends.

That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the best score in the history of the IQ test.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

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Great story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (elLTo)

327

a good read over at ZeroHedge

The Real 'Monster' Eating The Nation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-19/real-monster-eating-nation

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (fceHP)

328 I know that time is part of the test score.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:18 PM (elLTo)

Absolutely. It's part of the equation.
Almost anyone could do the (old) NY Times crossword puzzle if given enough time.
For some it would take 3,000 years though.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (7uYFy)

329 Today I learned that Zombie is Marilyn Vos Savant.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (4ErVI)

330 And... Navybrat @51 gets a chicken dinner.
His observation is completely on point, and should be Tweeted from the rooftops.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (QtQaN)

331 297 I thought that IQs above 160 were just a guess anyway.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (LTHVh)

Yes, the real IQ tests given by Psychologists time you...

Things like... you are given a 3d drawing of a shape, and then given odd shaped blocks, how long does it take you to fit the blocks together to make the shape...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (NgKpN)

332 Here's a link: http://tinyurl.com/q3yj7jb

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (elLTo)

Heh! Why did I not know you'd refer to that. Bravo Sir, Bra-VO.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (i0ykY)

333 We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie


Gah, I'm no genius, yet I have the gift of being able to write in pompous Sokalesque bullshitese. Some people just have that gift. YES, it does not automatically mean they are smart or that their opinions are well thought through.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (vRcUp)

334 Guess ace's computers status went from "running hot" to 'actually on fire"....

Hope the shelves aren't in any danger........

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (jjaLl)

335 Cincinnati has a slave museum. Not many paying customers. Gets subsidies to stay afloat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (IqV8l)

336 332 Here's a link: http://tinyurl.com/q3yj7jb

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (elLTo)

Heh! Why did I not know you'd refer to that. Bravo Sir, Bra-VO.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (i0ykY)

===============

*bows*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (elLTo)

337 I don't think anyone who was President was just average intelligence except for Obama. Too many examples of below intelligence statements and actions.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (Dd0xD)

338 "Or maybe Trump, is the smartest given his wealth."

I have about half a dozen friends who are self-made millionaires. None hold more than a BA degree, half didn't finish college. Mostly they aren't outstanding intellects. Mostly they are relentless at going after what they want and they will take chances.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (3myMJ)

339 334 Guess ace's computers status went from "running hot" to 'actually on fire"....

Hope the shelves aren't in any danger........
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (jjaLl)

==============

He'll have to relearn how to use the power drill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (elLTo)

340 Absolutely. It's part of the equation.
Almost anyone could do the (old) NY Times crossword puzzle if given enough time.
For some it would take 3,000 years though.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (7uYFy)



Joey Biden: I can color in all of the squares in about an hour

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (493sH)

341 337 I don't think anyone who was President was just average intelligence except for Obama. Too many examples of below intelligence statements and actions.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (Dd0xD)

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Zachary Taylor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (elLTo)

342 I don't think anyone who was President was just average intelligence except for Obama.

US Grant.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:23 PM (LTHVh)

343 You know the rulz.

Obama, Clinton and Soros are the forces of good.

President Trump is the force of evil and he must be destroyed.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at May 19, 2017 01:24 PM (NGWPz)

344 Perhaps I'm visiting an old thread subject, but has anyone viewed the videos of the NYC Times Square vehicular terrorist attack? They're at WZ in case anyone hasn't seen them.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:24 PM (Fmupd)

345 331 297 I thought that IQs above 160 were just a guess anyway.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:14 PM (LTHVh)

Yes, the real IQ tests given by Psychologists time you...

Things like... you are given a 3d drawing of a shape, and then given odd shaped blocks, how long does it take you to fit the blocks together to make the shape...
Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (NgKpN)

Ah, good old spatial reasoning tests. I'm really good at those, or at least was, but if you put one of those "If Andy is green, Billy likes puppies, and Carol has a red car, who's sitting next to Donna" things in front of me go slack-jawed and start drooling on the test paper.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (0mRoj)

346 yet I have the gift of being able to write in pompous Sokalesque bullshitese. Some people just have that gift. YES, it does not automatically mean they are smart or that their opinions are well thought through.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear

he did it under deadlines and on commission, so I think that there's a distinction to be made there. And he appears to be one of the first doing it, whereas our educational experience is shaped by what he did.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (326rv)

347 I don't think anyone who was President was just average intelligence except for Obama. Too many examples of below intelligence statements and actions.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (Dd0xD)



I doubt that LBJ's elevator went all the way to the top floor. He was just a cunning, ruthless, scumbag politician but probably a very stupid individual

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (493sH)

348 315 I thought that IQs above 160 were just a guess anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

I've always wondered if there was a time component to IQ tests, because I can figure out the answer to any test, given enough time.

People with high and even higher IQ's don't need that much time.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:17 PM (HTdUD)


IQ Tests are absolute bullshit.

I tested at 157 and I can't do a damn thing. I can't do math above the Algebra 1 level, I can't seem to teach myself any programming languages, I barely passed physics back in high school...

And I haven't been able to develop any particularly useful job skills or be able to concentrate on anything for more than about 8 seconds.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (ULi11)

349 335 Cincinnati has a slave museum. Not many paying customers. Gets subsidies to stay afloat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (IqV8l)


Sooooo... they receive the fruits of others labor under the threat of force?

Posted by: Chupacabra at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (OzBAs)

350 I don't think anyone who was President was just average intelligence except for Obama.

Bill Clinton was clearly a pussy whipped fool. Anyone who would marry Skankles, let alone stay married to her is enough evidence to convict.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (i0ykY)

351 Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

Love it!

I score 135-140 on such tests. I figure I'm about a 110 as I've always been good at taking tests.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (3myMJ)

352 Monster piece excerpt

One way or another, though, the Deep State is determined to drive Trump from office. In the final rounds of this struggle, Trump might conceivably undertake a sudden swamp-draining operation: the firing of a great many politicized Intelligence Community officers, especially the ones legally culpable for leaking classified information to media -- another area that Mr. Mueller could also shine a light on. The colossal security apparatus of this country -- especially the fairly new giant NSA -- has become a monster eating America. Somebody needs to literally cut it down to size. Perhaps that's the Deep State's main motive in moving heaven and earth to dump Trump.

When they do, of course, they are libel to foment an insurrection every bit as ugly as the dust-up that followed the shelling of Fort Sumter. Trump, whatever you think of him -- and I've never been a fan, to put it mildly -- was elected for a reason: the ongoing economic collapse of the nation, and the suffering of a public without incomes or purposeful employment. That part of the common weal is liable to completely whirl down the drain later this year in something like a currency crisis or a depressionary market meltdown engineered by yet another Deep State player, the Federal Reserve. That and the ejection of Trump could coincide with disastrous results.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (fceHP)

353 334
Guess ace's computers status went from "running hot" to 'actually on fire"....

Hope the shelves aren't in any danger........


Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 19, 2017 01:21 PM (jjaLl)

Or all the porn he has accumulated.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 01:26 PM (jxbfJ)

354 Here's an interesting rifle. Norinco SKS SERIAL NUMBER 1

http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/644049183

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:26 PM (LTHVh)

355 @342
That's a common misperception by the chattering classes. The man had encyclopedic knowledge of terrain and the officer corps both North and South, and was a brilliant strategist. Just taciturn and easily manipulated in the arts of political dealmaking. I made it about halfway through his Memoirs which was more than enough to give a sense of what an enormous effort he led.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 19, 2017 01:26 PM (QtQaN)

356 Joey Biden: I can color in all of the squares in about an hour

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (493sH)

Biden can also tell you the brand of paste and where it was made just by tasting it.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 19, 2017 01:26 PM (4ErVI)

357 340
Joey Biden: I can color in all of the squares in about an hour

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (493sH)

Only if he doesn't eat the crayons first.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (jxbfJ)

358 don't think anyone who was President was just average intelligence except for Obama. Too many examples of below intelligence statements and actions.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (Dd0xD)

I'm not so sure about that. I'm sure no dummy has ever been president, but I'm sure a few of them were of average--or slightly above.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (7uYFy)

359 The stuff that continues to leak out from comey's side really paints him as a partisian asshole who had no business being Dir of the FBI

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (KlI/a)

360 Joey Biden can color in the squares in about an hour.
It takes him a day if his coloring stays in the lines.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (NGWPz)

361 338 "Or maybe Trump, is the smartest given his wealth."

I have about half a dozen friends who are self-made millionaires. None hold more than a BA degree, half didn't finish college. Mostly they aren't outstanding intellects. Mostly they are relentless at going after what they want and they will take chances.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 01:22 PM (3myMJ)

I forgot which data storage company it was but they preferred to hire C students that appeared motivated to become wealthy.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (Dd0xD)

362 Total absolute lack of self awareness.... its a hall mark of the Left...


Posted by: Don Q. at May 19, 2017 12:58 PM (NgKpN)


No, in your case she was just horny. Then after you hooked up a few times she would have dumped you and bragged to all her libtard friends about how she cut loose a Trumpenista knuckledragger.

Instagram all day long

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (kD8Fh)

363 Perhaps I'm visiting an old thread subject, but has anyone viewed the videos of the NYC Times Square vehicular terrorist attack? They're at WZ in case anyone hasn't seen them.
Posted by: Soona

I've already seen too many barely blurred pictures of the 18 year old girl who was murdered, so I'll pass.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2017 01:27 PM (326rv)

364 Or all the porn he has accumulated.
150 tabs open; 147 busty lesbian pr0n.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 01:28 PM (nlbfN)

365 355 @342
That's a common misperception by the chattering classes. The man had encyclopedic knowledge of terrain and the officer corps both North and South, and was a brilliant strategist. Just taciturn and easily manipulated in the arts of political dealmaking. I made it about halfway through his Memoirs which was more than enough to give a sense of what an enormous effort he led.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 19, 2017 01:26 PM (QtQaN)

================

The *very little* I've read of Grant makes me think that he was a very strategic thinker, well suited for battle.

That skill set may just not translate well to politics.

Plus, he was a depressive, if I remember correctly, who drank. That can't have helped his presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:28 PM (elLTo)

366 Especially since the Kennedy estate will most likely settle by paying us off with hookers and blow.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2017 01:16 PM (vmkEw)

There's...ahhhhmm...a 68 Oldsmobile. Has...ahhhhhm...some...ahhhhhm...water damage...and needs some...ahhhhmm...body work. Been in the...ahhhhmm...garage for awhile.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Kennedy at May 19, 2017 01:28 PM (qJhUV)

367 And I haven't been able to develop any particularly useful job skills or be able to concentrate on anything for more than about 8 seconds.

Posted by: Hikaru

__

I think bull riding is right up your alley.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2017 01:29 PM (7ZVPa)

368 Ugh. HeatStreet's NeverTrumper Stephen Miller and Richard Grenell got into Twitter fight this morning. There's an "unfollow" I'm sad to make.

Posted by: Shopgirl at May 19, 2017 01:29 PM (jETL9)

369 322 Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

Not going to lie, I would have taken the offer in your position.

Mostly because the ONLY way I can seem to learn anything is one-on-one personal tutoring.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:29 PM (ULi11)

370

Rand Paul's REINS Act Heads to Senate Floor

legalinsurrection

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 19, 2017 01:30 PM (fceHP)

371 IQ Tests are absolute bullshit.

I tested at 157 and I can't do a damn thing. I can't do math above the Algebra 1 level, I can't seem to teach myself any programming languages, I barely passed physics back in high school...

And I haven't been able to develop any particularly useful job skills or be able to concentrate on anything for more than about 8 seconds.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (ULi11)

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You're perfect for journalism school.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:31 PM (Fmupd)

372 369 322 Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

Not going to lie, I would have taken the offer in your position.

Mostly because the ONLY way I can seem to learn anything is one-on-one personal tutoring.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:29 PM (ULi11)

Well first things first. It's spelled Tootering.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:31 PM (Dd0xD)

373 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2017 01:29 PM (7ZVP

Nice !!

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:31 PM (Dd0xD)

374
Love the story Zombie.

I wish the test giver had given us a clue, back when I took the test in high school, because I definitely slacked time wise. They said, 'Take your time'. Which I did. But it was simple.

Years later I took another one, a little bit faster. Low range Mensa.

Had a little trouble with Algebra, but could write computer code with the best.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:32 PM (HTdUD)

375 Even Stanley Ann's choice of who to get pregnant by was to make sure she had a multi-culti child to steep in Marxism.

I think my father was the same way. "If I f*ck this minority, my children will be forced to be Loyal to the Cause!" They can't persuade by argumentation, so they try to maneuver people into posistions where they will support libtardedness. But they reckon without the fact that some have an objective sense of things. Morality and aesthetics.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 19, 2017 01:32 PM (vRcUp)

376 That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the best score in the history of the IQ test.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

Nice try zombie.

We know that you're really that smart.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (KUaJL)

377 I score 135-140 on such tests. I figure I'm about a 110 as I've always been good at taking tests.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 01:25 PM (3myMJ)

I've only taken timed IQ tests online and I've score between 105 and 137( which I don't believe at all).

But you really don't have to be that smart to be a success. And just as much as it "might help" being smart, it might actually be a detriment to some.
The world is littered with the broken dreams of those ho were "a little smart" and sought success in fields well beyond their true competitive aptitude.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (7uYFy)

378 I see Assange is still breathing...pity

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (KlI/a)

379 >>I have about half a dozen friends who are self-made millionaires. None
hold more than a BA degree, half didn't finish college. Mostly they
aren't outstanding intellects. Mostly they are relentless at going after
what they want and they will take chances.

Had a very successful uncle, and in addition to being smart he understood people very well. Guess that qualifies as "street smart," because it definitely played into his success.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

380 IQ tests. I scored a 212 (actually test was supposed to bump you out after missing 2 in a row and I never did so they estimated). I scored 186 on one. And over 150 on another as it was only designed to go to 150. And 48 on the Wonderlic.

And I am a dumbass so what does that tell you?

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (8IkOE)

381 379
Had a very successful uncle, and in addition to being smart he understood people very well. Guess that qualifies as "street smart," because it definitely played into his success.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

================

Many people have confused "intellectual" for intelligent.

That's a mistake.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (elLTo)

382 >>That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some
archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the
best score in the history of the IQ test.


Is your name Vitus?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (NOIQH)

383 That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the best score in the history of the IQ test.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

Nice try zombie.

We know that you're really that smart.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (KUaJL)

I believe that just like those people in suits who visited him, he was being modest. not many people can remember what they had for lunch the day before--let alone the answers to the test they took a decade before.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (7uYFy)

384
I see Assange is still breathing...pity

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (KlI/a)

He doesn't bother me as much as Manning.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (rF0hx)

385 all the porn he has accumulated.
150 tabs open; 147 busty lesbian pr0n.


Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2017 01:28 PM (nlbfN)

How does one possibly have 150 tabs open?? I've never had more than 10 or so. How can you even see what's what after a while?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 19, 2017 01:36 PM (Jcg9Q)

386 But you really don't have to be that smart to be a success. And just as much as it "might help" being smart, it might actually be a detriment to some.
The world is littered with the broken dreams of those ho were "a little smart" and sought success in fields well beyond their true competitive aptitude.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (7uYFy)

There's definitely truth in this. I'm fairly intelligent and very good at the analytical aspects of legal practice, but never figured out how to "play the game" in terms of business development and internal politics. As a result, I may very well be unemployable at this stage in my life.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:36 PM (0mRoj)

387 383 That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the best score in the history of the IQ test.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)

Nice try zombie.

We know that you're really that smart.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (KUaJL)

I believe that just like those people in suits who visited him, he was being modest. not many people can remember what they had for lunch the day before--let alone the answers to the test they took a decade before.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (7uYFy)


What is it, only 40 people (estimated) in the entire world have Perfect Memory Recall?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:37 PM (ULi11)

388 I see Assange is still breathing...pity

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (KlI/a)

He doesn't bother me as much as Manning.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (rF0hx)

6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 01:37 PM (KlI/a)

389 "LBJ's elevator went all the way to the top floor"
I think John Connolly did a lot of el Blow Job's thinking.

Posted by: Ok at May 19, 2017 01:37 PM (OE5e7)

390 385 How does one possibly have 150 tabs open?? I've never had more than 10 or so. How can you even see what's what after a while?
Posted by: Country Boy at May 19, 2017 01:36 PM (Jcg9Q)

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Maybe across multiple windows.

Like 15-20 tabs per window and 8-10 windows. Seems doable if spread across at least two screens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:37 PM (elLTo)

391 >>Many people have confused "intellectual" for intelligent.



That's a mistake.


Heh, my uncle was the opposite of an intellectual, though several of his books are used in business schools.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (NOIQH)

392 zombie, great story

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (hMwEB)

393 I've only taken timed IQ tests online and I've score between 105 and 137( which I don't believe at all).

But you really don't have to be that smart to be a success. And just as much as it "might help" being smart, it might actually be a detriment to some.
The world is littered with the broken dreams of those ho were "a little smart" and sought success in fields well beyond their true competitive aptitude.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:33 PM (7uYFy)


Which is another way of saying, intelligence tests are bogus, because they only measure a narrow type of intelligence, and what they do measure is not necessarily very practical for success in this world.

In fact, ANY correlation between intelligence test results and success is more likely due to the tendency of IQ type intelligence and other ways that humans function well in this world.

I would argue the IQ test is one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated on this world. Right along with communism and our modern left.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (TOk1P)

394 Had a very successful uncle, and in addition to being smart he understood people very well. Guess that qualifies as "street smart," because it definitely played into his success.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

================

My uncle is a certified moron (and not of the AoS type) but his two children are super smart and super successful. One manages a hedge fund. My aunt--his wife comes from a family of teachers and though she doesn't see it--I mean she married my uncle--she must have a high IQ.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (7uYFy)

395 Had a very successful uncle, and in addition to being smart he understood people very well. Guess that qualifies as "street smart," because it definitely played into his success.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

That's one of my problems - I don't understand people very well at all, at least not insofar as to bring benefit to any professional or business endeavors.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (0mRoj)

396

Many people have confused "intellectual" for intelligent.

That's a mistake.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:35 PM (


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One of the best definitions of intelligence I've ever heard was, the ability and speed at which one adapts to their environment.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:39 PM (Fmupd)

397 391
Heh, my uncle was the opposite of an intellectual, though several of his books are used in business schools.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (NOIQH)

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My dad is a good ole boy from Tennessee, and his book on Experimental Design is required reading in a lot of Master's levels statistics programs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:39 PM (elLTo)

398
So we have some really high IQ people here. But who would want to go head to head against Ace in writing skills? Humor? Turn of a phrase?

He astonishes me. Muldoon, too.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:39 PM (HTdUD)

399 379 >>I have about half a dozen friends who are self-made millionaires. None
hold more than a BA degree, half didn't finish college. Mostly they
aren't outstanding intellects. Mostly they are relentless at going after
what they want and they will take chances.

Had a very successful uncle, and in addition to being smart he understood people very well. Guess that qualifies as "street smart," because it definitely played into his success.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

I'm convinced of the truth of that. There's a cliche about A students working for C students.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:39 PM (hJrjt)

400 I don't know what Trump's IQ is but based on his life, he is a visionary with incredible will and relentless enthusiasm.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 19, 2017 01:40 PM (hMwEB)

401 What is it, only 40 people (estimated) in the entire world have Perfect Memory Recall?
Posted by: Hikaru


Eidetic memory, and that's not IQ.

They aren't so much intelligent as familiar with facts and figures.

There are people who can recite all of Shakespeare's works but couldn't tell you the why or the how of any of it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 01:40 PM (udajc)

402 @398. I know. He was doing cock holster way before Colbert!

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 01:40 PM (8IkOE)

403 398
So we have some really high IQ people here. But who would want to go head to head against Ace in writing skills? Humor? Turn of a phrase?

He astonishes me. Muldoon, too.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:39 PM (HTdUD)

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I'd bet Ace is as smart as anyone here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:40 PM (elLTo)

404 401 Eidetic memory, and that's not IQ.

They aren't so much intelligent as familiar with facts and figures.

There are people who can recite all of Shakespeare's works but couldn't tell you the why or the how of any of it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 01:40 PM (udajc)

==============

It's why winning Jeopardy doesn't necessarily mean that you're smart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:41 PM (elLTo)

405 What is it, only 40 people (estimated) in the entire world have Perfect Memory Recall?

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:37 PM (ULi11)


It's 42, to be precise.

Posted by: One of the 42 at May 19, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)

406 That's EXACTLY what I say !

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at May 19, 2017 01:42 PM (8IkOE)

407 Which is another way of saying, intelligence tests are bogus, because they only measure a narrow type of intelligence, and what they do measure is not necessarily very practical for success in this world.

In fact, ANY correlation between intelligence test results and success is more likely due to the tendency of IQ type intelligence and other ways that humans function well in this world.

I would argue the IQ test is one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated on this world. Right along
with communism and our modern left.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (TOk1P)

Many don't agree with the idea that there are "many" different types of intelligence because that idea started on the left as an excuse.
But I believe it is true. Expert mechanics and craftsmen have a certain type of intelligence that IQ tests don't measure.
Other people score high when it comes to "logic" but not when it comes to creativity.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:42 PM (7uYFy)

408 I'm convinced of the truth of that. There's a cliche about A students working for C students.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:39 PM (hJrjt)

Somebody's book I was reading quoted a former President of Ohio State who told a professor "be nice to your A students, and they'll come back and teach. Be nice to your C students, and they'll come back and give you $20 million for a new building."

Posted by: Country Boy at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (Jcg9Q)

409 Nice try zombie.

We know that you're really that smart.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously


I won't deny that I'm "smart" -- I got into a very good university based solely on my SAT scores. When I learned what they were (in 11th grade), and was told that just on their own they would get me into the college of my choice, I then totally slacked off for all of 12th grade and barely even attended class, which ended up (as expected but I didn't give a shit) netting me some bad grades.

Even with my freshly wounded GPA, as promised, I still got into the university I wanted.

But thing about that IQ test -- it was so totally retro. You could tell from the artwork style in some of the "visual" portions that it was created long ago, probably in the '40s or maybe the early '50s, and had not been updated. Furthermore, it contained various socio-cultural mores that had little to do with "intelligence," but rather was testing your awareness of social norms.

It was that kind of stuff that was certainly excised when they later amended and updated the IQ test. These unwitting cultural biases were not intended to make the test "unfair" to people of other cultures or social levels, but they ended up being so anyway. So some small extent, the criticisms of the early IQ tests were valid criticisms. The cultural-knowledge stuff was only ion a small number of sections, but it did exist.

Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (DQ4Fv)

410 394
My uncle is a certified moron (and not of the AoS type) but his two children are super smart and super successful. One manages a hedge fund. My aunt--his wife comes from a family of teachers and though she doesn't see it--I mean she married my uncle--she must have a high IQ.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (7uYFy)

And that's another reason I think there's so much bullshit involved.

I'm a complete idiot. But I've had 2 of the most blow-away intelligent people I've known tell me I'm one of the only people who can keep up conversationally with them. And I'm someone whose mind blanks out for minutes at a time, multiple times a day.

I don't get it. At all.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (ULi11)

411 Grrr

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (8IkOE)

412 It's 42, to be precise.

43, as I recall correctly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (LTHVh)

413 Joe Biden:

"I never thought she was a great candidate. I thought I was a great candidate,"

I wouldn't go that far, Joe. But you were the D candidate who would have beaten Trump.

Horses for courses

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (+7/1f)

414 I read a book a long time ago called "Triarchic Intelligence" where the author postulated that there were 3 kinds of intelligence: book smarts, street smarts, and common sense. I don't remember much more other than it was interesting at the time.

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy, Illuminati at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (DNeh8)

415 I also think there's a difference between intelligence and wisdom and the ability to make good decisions.
Intelligence, as referred to by the media, refers strictly to people who believe the same things they believe.
I have no problem accepting that a highly intelligent person could believe differently than me, but leftists don't seem to share that point of view.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (hJrjt)

416
It's why winning Jeopardy doesn't necessarily mean that you're smart.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:41 PM (elLTo)


I want to agree. But some of those multiple winners have to be pretty damn bright.
Tremendous "Recall" counts for something, doesn't it?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (7uYFy)

417 Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 19, 2017 01:40 PM (hMwEB)

And a patriot.

Yesterday when he was asked his opinion about the special counsel, he replied, "It divides the country".

He didn't reply in terms that referred back to himself. He has genuine concern for our nation and its people. That's why it's especially reprehensible that Fllying Monkey Media takes every opportunity to diminish him, demean him, manufacture and fabricate a false image of him.

And in so doing they demonstrate their absolute contempt for we who voted for our President.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (kD8Fh)

418 I'm a complete idiot. But I've had 2 of the most blow-away intelligent people I've known tell me I'm one of the only people who can keep up conversationally with them. And I'm someone whose mind blanks out for minutes at a time, multiple times a day.

I don't get it. At all.
Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (ULi11)

You're good at faking it.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:45 PM (KUaJL)

419 Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (DQ4Fv)

Cal had "Admission By Examination Alone" back in the day.

I think I had a hand in the program being cancelled.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2017 01:45 PM (rF0hx)

420 "I'd bet Ace is as smart as anyone here."

I don't get the Cult of Ace. I come here for the comments

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 01:45 PM (+7/1f)

421 Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:38 PM (TOk1P)

Many don't agree with the idea that there are "many" different types of intelligence because that idea started on the left as an excuse.
But I believe it is true. Expert mechanics and craftsmen have a certain type of intelligence that IQ tests don't measure.
Other people score high when it comes to "logic" but not when it comes to creativity.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:42 PM (7uYFy)


Yeah, that's an example of how we view intelligence, and we all know that's true. Some people couldn't tell you who the President of the United States is, but ask him to draw a sunset...

Or, another way of measuring intelligence, linear versus spatial thinking.

As a practical matter, lawyers tend to be fine linear thinkers, but ask them to consider multiple views, and the speculate, and it's like their brains explode.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

422 You're good at faking it.


I just go My Dinner with Andre when I'm with reeally intelligent people.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (LTHVh)

423 I also think there's a difference between intelligence and wisdom and the ability to make good decisions.
Intelligence, as referred to by the media, refers strictly to people who believe the same things they believe.
I have no problem accepting that a highly intelligent person could believe differently than me, but leftists don't seem to share that point of view.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (hJrjt)

In theory. But intelligent people make stupid and foolish decisions all the time. The reason for that has nothing to do with brains.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (7uYFy)

424 takes out centimeter tape , seeing it would be useful today,, scrummages around, nope it's lost but I found a English measurement tape in inches.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (0Ryp5)

425 I have two unique brain skills. I can tell you immediately if a female is Asian by just only seeing her from the rear.

And I can put together an ongoing scenario I'm not involved in by hearing just a few words.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (Dd0xD)

426 It's 42, to be precise.

43, as I recall correctly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (LTHVh)


No, he died. On April 7, 2016. 4:42AM.

Liver cancer.

Posted by: One of the 42 at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (TOk1P)

427 zombie, that story would make a great setup for a screenplay, if the offer is accepted in a fictional version.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (ul9CR)

428 Willows here.

New thread in 3...2.

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (8IkOE)

429 I met an elderly man once, who was a former rabbi who had survived a concentration camp.
After a brief conversation he told me I was the most intelligent man he had met. Odd, that.
He liked to play chess with another who was extremely well read, with a law degree and clearly intelligent, who owned a run down, dirty convenience store in inner-city Winnipeg, just a block away from the Salvation Army rehab centre and a drunk tank.
All very interesting.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (hJrjt)

430 Does Vizzini even say anything in that movie?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (LTHVh)

431


It's 42, to be precise.
Posted by: One of the 42 at May 19, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)

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It's actually 41. And he died from pneumococcal pneumonia on August 3, 1998 at 7:36 am.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (Fmupd)

432 Fake it till you make it.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (Dd0xD)

433 Which is another way of saying, intelligence tests are bogus, because they only measure a narrow type of intelligence, and what they do measure is not necessarily very practical for success in this world.

In fact, ANY correlation between intelligence test results and success is more likely due to the tendency of IQ type intelligence and other ways that humans function well in this world.

I would argue the IQ test is one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated on this world. Right along with communism and our modern left.

Posted by: BurtTC


I'm not so certain. Returning to the analogy of the horsepower of an automobile, two identical cars. One has two hundred horsepower, the other eight hundred.

The potential in the eight hundred horsepower car to go incredibly fast and lead the pack is definitely there. But it depends who is driving, something I don't know what the test is for.

Except prior performance. Prior achievement.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (HTdUD)

434 ...takes every opportunity to diminish him, demean him, manufacture and fabricate a false image of him.
And in so doing they demonstrate their absolute contempt for we who voted for our President.
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (kD8Fh)
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US Grant or DJ Trump?

Posted by: RioBravo at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (OmhcY)

435 >>Willows here.


Hammer Drills, down.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (/0dcw)

436 I know you guys have moved on but still trying to understand why a grown man in a position of power would try to hide behind the drapes?? Do rational adults do that?

Posted by: IC at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (a0IVu)

437 I want to agree. But some of those multiple winners have to be pretty damn bright.
Tremendous "Recall" counts for something, doesn't it?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (7uYFy)

Jeopardy, like any game, has a non-insignificant edge to be gained by just getting good at Jeopardy (which is not the same as just learning things). Reading the questions and knowing when to hit the buzzer are skills that you can learn and practice (since if you hit the buzzer too quickly, you get locked out, but wait too long, someone will buzz before you). So there's skill in quickly reading the question, and processing it in the time it takes for your buzzer to go online.

There's also the things where you can figure out how much money you should wager on the daily doubles and final jeopardy rounds based on how much you've got currently, as well as familiarizing yourself with the way the questions are asked (Or, I guess "answers are given") so you're not stuck trying to figure out how to translate something that's barely English.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:49 PM (KUaJL)

438 2 of my siblings are ridiculously smart, above-average IQ, valedictorian types.

The rest of us are normies, for the most part. I do have super-advanced reading skills, but that's the only part of the super-smart genes I got. Unfortunately.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 01:49 PM (ul9CR)

439 427 zombie, that story would make a great setup for a screenplay, if the offer is accepted in a fictional version.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (ul9CR)

The Simpsons did an episode on that involving Bart.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:49 PM (Dd0xD)

440 To make intelligent people enjoy your company you just give them the same focus that you give a woman you are hitting on. The you-are-the-most-facinating-person-in-the-world look.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)

441 As a practical matter, lawyers tend to be fine linear thinkers, but ask them to consider multiple views, and the speculate, and it's like their brains explode.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

I don't know about that. Part of the job involves evaluating multiple possible paths and outcomes and exploring the "what ifs."

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

442 I'm not all that good at hard core analytical skills but I understand things quickly.
I often hear sermons and speeches and quickly know where the speaker is going. Which means I have been known to tune out half way through.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:50 PM (hJrjt)

443 426 It's 42, to be precise.

43, as I recall correctly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:43 PM (LTHVh)


No, he died. On April 7, 2016. 4:42AM.

Liver cancer.
Posted by: One of the 42 at May 19, 2017 01:47 PM (TOk1P)

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Damn you!

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:50 PM (Fmupd)

444 I was never a particularly good student--I was bored in school.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:51 PM (hJrjt)

445 >>I'd bet Ace is as smart as anyone here.


He's my go to guy for ALL shelving questions.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2017 01:51 PM (/0dcw)

446 417
And in so doing they demonstrate their absolute contempt for we who voted for our President.
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 01:44 PM (kD8Fh)

===============

I keep seeing parallels between how the elite of the day treated Lincoln and how the elite of today treat Trump.

Lincoln wasn't of the class. He was crass. He didn't know what he was doing. He had no principles.

Hell, Salmon Chase almost ran against Lincoln for the Republican primary (as it existed) in 1864 (while in Lincoln's Cabinet) with the support of a mysterious group of sitting senators and representatives who all "wrote" a letter calling for Lincoln's replacement.

It's just...interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:52 PM (elLTo)

447 As a practical matter, lawyers tend to be fine linear thinkers, but ask them to consider multiple views, and the speculate, and it's like their brains explode.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

I don't know about that. Part of the job involves evaluating multiple possible paths and outcomes and exploring the "what ifs."
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

I think Lawyers tend to fall into the trap of "if I can think of a good argument for something, that thing must be true."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:52 PM (KUaJL)

448 444 I was never a particularly good student--I was bored in school.
Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:51 PM (hJrjt)

Same here. I had other issues too that didnt help.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:52 PM (0mRoj)

449 441 As a practical matter, lawyers tend to be fine linear thinkers, but ask them to consider multiple views, and the speculate, and it's like their brains explode.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

I don't know about that. Part of the job involves evaluating multiple possible paths and outcomes and exploring the "what ifs."
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:50 PM (0mRoj)

And in my experience often get paralysis by over analysis in their personal life.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (Dd0xD)

450 440 To make intelligent people enjoy your company you just give them the same focus that you give a woman you are hitting on. The you-are-the-most-facinating-person-in-the-world look.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)


Oh, they didn't enjoy my company at all.

They just thought I was one of the only people they'd spoken too that didn't sound like a paste-eating dullard to them.

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (ULi11)

451 >>zombie, that story would make a great setup for a screenplay, if the offer is accepted in a fictional version.


There's already a great German movie called "Vitus" that is along those lines.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (NOIQH)

452 436 I know you guys have moved on but still trying to understand why a grown man in a position of power would try to hide behind the drapes?? Do rational adults do that?
Posted by: IC at May 19, 2017 01:48 PM (a0IVu)

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A rational adult who knows he's in a lot of fucking trouble being seen with anyone.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (Fmupd)

453 To make intelligent people enjoy your company you
just give them the same focus that you give a woman you are hitting on.
The you-are-the-most-facinating-person-in-the-world look.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 19, 2017 01:49 PM (LTHVh)>>>
Do the intelligent people still complain "My eyes are up here" like the women I hit on?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (r5KeJ)

454
Recall of facts by itself is not intelligence. Knowing things is not the same as intelligence.

Problem solving, creativity and outcome prediction are indicators of high intelligence. Recall of information will help with that, but by itself is not intelligence.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (8XRCm)

455
Bernie Sanders and wife in hot water with FBI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiidwW-vnrI

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (kD8Fh)

456 Oh shit it's FRiday.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (udajc)

457 I think Lawyers tend to fall into the trap of "if I can think of a good argument for something, that thing must be true."
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:52 PM (KUaJL)

I don't think that's limited at all to lawyers. Ask anybody here who has an ex-wife.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (0mRoj)

458 455
Bernie Sanders and wife in hot water with FBI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiidwW-vnrI
Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (kD8Fh)

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For being so committed to the common man, I'm sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (elLTo)

459 445 >>I'd bet Ace is as smart as anyone here.


He's my go to guy for ALL shelving questions.
Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2017 01:51 PM (/0dcw)

Yeah I don't know how well he would do on the mechanical portion of the testing.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (Dd0xD)

460
I know you guys have moved on but still trying to understand why a grown man in a position of power would try to hide behind the drapes?? Do rational adults do that?
Posted by: IC


Sounds Shakespearean

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (IqV8l)

461 And in my experience often get paralysis by over analysis in their personal life.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:53 PM (Dd0xD)

You're not wrong.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (0mRoj)

462 Genius genes are similar to big penis genes. You just never know. There are a wide range even in families.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (7uYFy)

463 457 I think Lawyers tend to fall into the trap of "if I can think of a good argument for something, that thing must be true."
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 01:52 PM (KUaJL)

I don't think that's limited at all to lawyers. Ask anybody here who has an ex-wife.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (0mRoj)

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Those of us still married?

Eh...I'll have to ask the wife first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:55 PM (elLTo)

464 A good Spanish idiom that I use to describe the intelligence on the Left.

A parrot says what it knows but doesn't know what it says.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 01:55 PM (Dd0xD)

465 It was kind of funny being advanced in only one subject. From freshman year on I was in those advanced, college-level special classes, but for English only.

All the straight-A types were used to being in those classes together, pretty much the same group of eggheads in every class.

Then along comes me, with my long hair and leather jacket and Iron Maiden t-shirt, cigarette tucked behind my ear, probably half-stoned most of the time, in one class a day, and they weren't sure what to make of me at first. But over time they came to respect that I did belong there. And I have to say, those smart kids were the nicest kids in the school. Just always real nice to me in those classes. I always defended them from my friends.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 19, 2017 01:55 PM (ul9CR)

466 I would argue the IQ test is one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated on this world. Right along with communism and our modern left.

Posted by: BurtTC


Hardly. IQ tests (properly structured) are perfectly legitimate tools. They are supposed to measure the basic mechanisms of intelligence and give a sense of the ability of the tested brain/mind to "be" intelligent. You have a similar suite of tests in sports - where one measures the basic athletic abilities to see ones overall possibility of being an able athlete. You measure speed, strength, coordination, flexibility, etc ... Put together these don't determine if someone will be a great baseball player, say, but they certainly give an overall view of ones potential and likely level. IQ tests are the same.

Now, not all IQ tests are composed of the appropriate test suites to make this general determination ... but it really doesn't take much to get a very good idea. Memory, abstract reasoning ability, pattern recognition, ... Test on those qualities and you are very quickly able to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2017 01:55 PM (zc3Db)

467 For being so committed to the common man, I'm sure.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (elLTo)

----

Fixers Corollary:

All Socialists are raging Capitalists when it comes to their own shit.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 01:56 PM (8XRCm)

468 I don't think that's limited at all to lawyers. Ask anybody here who has an ex-wife.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:54 PM (0mRoj)

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Those of us still married?

Eh...I'll have to ask the wife first.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:55 PM (elLTo)


Heh. I was going for the starkest example first.

Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:57 PM (0mRoj)

469 Ya know who is smart? Baron Trump, he figured out how to be born into it! And his mother, Va va va!

Now top that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 01:57 PM (KlI/a)

470 468

Heh. I was going for the starkest example first.
Posted by: Insomniac, Lord Hurlingbone, Earl of Melancholy at May 19, 2017 01:57 PM (0mRoj)

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I was just going for a laugh.

Success!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 01:57 PM (elLTo)

471 "And his mother, Va va va!
Now top that"

Don't forget the breast feeding!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 01:59 PM (+7/1f)

472 I was a lazy student but luckily had somewhat of a photographic memory. I didn't take notes but was able to recall most everything. Admittedly it didn't work all the time.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 02:00 PM (Dd0xD)

473 A parrot says what it knows but doesn't know what it says.

-
Like a television journalist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 19, 2017 02:01 PM (Nwg0u)

474 All Socialists are raging Capitalists when it comes to their own shit.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 01:56 PM (8XRCm)

Absolutely. They want the free shit given to the poor to come from everyone else's pocket. Not theirs.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2017 02:01 PM (7uYFy)

475 All Socialists are raging Capitalists when it comes to their own shit.



Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 01:56 PM (8XRCm)


That's what's so offensive about them. The only reason they have any power at all is because their school indoctrination and Flying Monkey Media wing has convinced the insecure adult babies that they're really the Kewl Kids.

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 02:01 PM (kD8Fh)

476
Something else. There are absolute speed limitations to the ability of our nervous system to communicate with the brain and our extremities like hands and feet. I believe I've seen the number as being in the 200 mph range.

People with the highest IQ's might well be stretching the outer limits of this speed limitation. They answer test questions quickly, mainly because they can.

Returning to the car analogy, the Indy 500 has been like forever. Cars have gotten better, more horsepower than ever is available, tires are better, ad infinitum. But they intentionally throttle things equally so that the speed never goes far above that 200 mph benchmark.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 02:02 PM (HTdUD)

477 Freeper land, which runs on ace's discarded hamsters, is back. Congrats to Mr. Robinson on his creativity with duct tape and baling wire.

Posted by: Meremortal at May 19, 2017 02:03 PM (3myMJ)

478 To me, the biggest sign of intelligence is intuitive understanding. To just _know_ how to do things when you see them, without having to be taught.

Especially when it comes to mechanical/scientific things

Posted by: Hikaru at May 19, 2017 02:03 PM (y5sPI)

479 When I've talked to old people who around in Texas back in LBJ's day, it's pretty clear that everyone always knew that he was a shameless liar and crook, and that constant bribery was his M.O. BUT what he was a genius at was that, like Al Capone, he always cut in a whole lot of people for part of the take, and once he got into Washington, he fought harder than anybody to make sure that oodles of Federal money got sent back to Texas (where of course it was disbursed and managed by all of his cronies)

It's so ironic that Democrats have abandoned the oil gas biz, because the oil companies never had a better friend than LBJ - every tax break and incentive they have today are the results of the laws that LBJ in the Senate and Sam Rayburn in the House slammed through for them. The oil companies would have been glad to go on financing Democrats as long as they got some consideration in return, but noooooo, all the smart dems were too good to take that "dirty money" anymore.

Funny that even a "stupid" man realizes that you gotta spread the wealth around and keep all your friends happy, or soon you won't have so many friends.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2017 02:04 PM (KlrJJ)

480 Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 02:02 PM (HTdUD)

Don't tell my airline pilot that theory.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 02:04 PM (Dd0xD)

481
My Dad was one of those people with freaky recall.

He did Sped Reading and Comprehesion competitions when he was in college. Nearly photographic memory.

I didnt get the full effect of that gene, but studying was never that hard for me as I easily remembered and comprehended what I did.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 02:04 PM (8XRCm)

482 472 I was a lazy student but luckily had somewhat of a photographic memory. I didn't take notes but was able to recall most everything. Admittedly it didn't work all the time.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 02:00 PM (Dd0xD)

In high school I was lazy, undisciplined and bored. I didn't even have the redeeming quality of being a trouble maker.
I was the guy who was always being asked why he wasn't doing better.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 02:04 PM (hJrjt)

483 PDT at Andrews

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 02:04 PM (KlI/a)

484
did = read

Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 02:04 PM (8XRCm)

485 I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's "banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.

We have been ascribing to these people far more sophistication and intelligence than they actually have.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)


Nancy Pelosi is Exhibit One. I recall an article on her from years ago (I can't find it now) that basically said she while cunning, she was at best shallowly informed about almost anything.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 19, 2017 02:05 PM (17QyB)

486 All Socialists are raging Capitalists when it comes to their own shit.



Posted by: fixerupper at May 19, 2017 01:56 PM (8XRCm)


I don't mean to nitpick ... but they're not really "capitalists". They just want everyone's stuff for their own. They don't believe in anyone else having any stuff and they don't believe in any sort of competition to get stuff. They're just greedy and into ownership only on their behalf which is not the same as being a capitalist. They would fall more into the category of being "royalists" than "capitalists" - Le etat, c'est moi.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2017 02:05 PM (zc3Db)

487 Have the media ever acknowledged a particular Democrat might say the rights but is dumb as a post?

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 02:06 PM (hJrjt)

488 I don't mean to nitpick ... but they're not really "capitalists". They just want everyone's stuff for their own. They don't believe in anyone else having any stuff and they don't believe in any sort of competition to get stuff. They're just greedy and into ownership only on their behalf which is not the same as being a capitalist. They would fall more into the category of being "royalists" than "capitalists" - Le etat, c'est moi.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2017 02:05 PM (zc3Db)

It basically comes down to "I'm smarter than you, so obviously I know better than you what to do with your money. I'm smarter than you, so obviously I know better than you what to do with my money."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 02:07 PM (KUaJL)

489 133
And IF he did anything it was out of hate for her and not for any love for PDT.


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how many millions of votes followed that thinking?
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At least five in my house. The Donald is entertaining and all, and the manner in which he tweaks the nose of D.C. and the press (can't bring myself to capitalize that) is endearing, but I would have voted for a potted plant before the Hildabeast.

Posted by: Crusty Curmudgeon at May 19, 2017 02:07 PM (T8dAj)

490 486 I don't mean to nitpick ... but they're not really "capitalists". They just want everyone's stuff for their own. They don't believe in anyone else having any stuff and they don't believe in any sort of competition to get stuff. They're just greedy and into ownership only on their behalf which is not the same as being a capitalist. They would fall more into the category of being "royalists" than "capitalists" - Le etat, c'est moi.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 19, 2017 02:05 PM (zc3Db)

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I agree.

What goods and services do they exchange for value with other people.

I guess you can count misery and graft, but I think that might be stretching the definition.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 02:08 PM (elLTo)

491 AF1 always looks fantastic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 02:09 PM (KlI/a)

492 I've always tested very high on these tests, and there are two things that I've always noticed different between me and a lot of people around me.

I have always been a lot more interested in a much wider variety of subjects than my peers, and I have better recall of random facts from my studies.

I see connections between things that others find bizarre.

For whatever that's worth. Cheers.

Posted by: mx4 at May 19, 2017 02:09 PM (xxdHN)

493 I had heard this crazypants screed on the radio, but seeing the visual is hilarious. Watch the interviewer @:50

Another of Maxine Water's Greatest Hits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW0IvzVIUBs

Posted by: kallisto at May 19, 2017 02:09 PM (kD8Fh)

494 Main page is jacking to a fake virus page on iPhone.

Painful

Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 02:09 PM (8IkOE)

495 494 Main page is jacking to a fake virus page on iPhone.

Painful
Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 02:09 PM (8IkOE)

I think it's one of the ads that does it. Happens sporadically for me to. I usually close the application and restart it and it's fine.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at May 19, 2017 02:10 PM (KUaJL)

496 LOL

Huma Abedin has finally filed for divorce against Anthony Weiner, just as her estranged husband pleaded guilty to sexting with a minor.

She brought an anonymous versus anonymous action in Manhattan Supreme Court Friday.

Shes asking for the court to seal the case.

The filing is uncontested meaning she is not expecting a fight over custody or the couples assets.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 02:11 PM (KlI/a)

497 494 Main page is jacking to a fake virus page on iPhone.

Painful
Posted by: blaster at May 19, 2017 02:09 PM (8IkOE)

Yep. Last few days.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 19, 2017 02:11 PM (Dd0xD)

498 Nood. Open thread.

Posted by: HH at May 19, 2017 02:11 PM (DrCtv)

499 That was the last I ever heard on the matter. But somewhere, in some archive, is my IQ test score, which almost certainly still ranks the best score in the history of the IQ test.
Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 01:19 PM (DQ4Fv)


That is Hysterical.

Posted by: Vrag Naroda at May 19, 2017 02:12 PM (17QyB)

500 Doors closed on AF1 less than 5 minutes after the President gets on...Just like any flight I take? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 19, 2017 02:12 PM (KlI/a)

501 Don't tell my airline pilot that theory.

Posted by: Jack Sock

Or an astronaut, right? But the airline pilot has a certain point in the process where he can quit, and where he can't. It's usually at that 200 mph limit. Once up in the air, the sort of interactions with other vehicles/planes is strictly restricted as far as distance between planes, and ultra fast decision making is unnecessary.

But only because squadrons of people on the ground are making that ultra fast decision making totally unnecessary.

Astronauts get strapped in and they don't do jack squat until it's safe and there are thousands of miles between them and danger, giving them plenty of time to react.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 02:12 PM (HTdUD)

502 IQ tests yield a normal distribution. I've wondered whether this is a function of the test itself, or whether Smarts are actually normally distributed.

From experience, I believe that that their are different kinds of Smarts, but that IQ tests are trying to measure a kind of core intelligence that's about logic and reasoning ability. I'm not an expert, but it stands to reason (mine anyway) that these tests have a limit in their accuracy when they purport to identify the smartest person among 10,000 people, as opposed to the smartest among 100. Do you really think you could design a test that by itself could say that Michaelangelo was smarter than Newton, or vice versa?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 19, 2017 02:12 PM (+7/1f)

503 498 Nood. Open thread.
Posted by: HH at May 19, 2017 02:11 PM (DrCtv)

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Aren't they all?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 19, 2017 02:13 PM (elLTo)

504 I also was always good at speed reading, comprehension, test taking. I remember early on I didn't relate to many of my peers very will, unless we were drinking which I was also proficient at.

When I finally went to law school (and I took a long break after my undergrad before I went back), a few weeks into that first semester I suddenly realize "oh, so THIS is where all the people like me end up!" It was kind like going to Hogwarts, and finding out that all the tricks you knew that made you kind of special, academically, were old hat here because everyone else here knew them and did them too.

Although I was still better at multiple choice than most. I've always maintained, with justification, that my guesses are better than most peoples calculations. And of course, there's a trick to it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 19, 2017 02:15 PM (KlrJJ)

505 Don't take that ice cream out of the freezer, Billy.
Don't touch that ice cream, Billy.
Don't eat that ice cream, Billy.

Posted by: Anonymous father at May 19, 2017 02:18 PM (nlbfN)

506
"I'd bet Ace is as smart as anyone here."

But Muldoon has a job.

And I've never seen one of Ace's limericks.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 19, 2017 02:19 PM (H5rtT)

507 Astronauts get strapped in and they don't do jack
squat until it's safe and there are thousands of miles between them and
danger, giving them plenty of time to react.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 02:12 PM (HTdUD)

Have you ever done the "land a shuttle" simulator or the docking simulator? Not as easy as you might think.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 19, 2017 02:19 PM (jK8Z7)

508 Yeah, overtime lately that I use my phone to load up the HQ,

I get hijacked to a virus page.

Maybe Pixy's hamsters got the clap.

Or one of the ads is a vector.


Aaaaanyway, it's keeping me off the HQ during downtime.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 19, 2017 02:21 PM (NyJwR)

509 504 ...It was kind of like going to Hogwarts...

You aren't by any chance a millennial are you? I ask because there's whole shitton of other books out there...

Just teasing.

Posted by: mx4 at May 19, 2017 02:21 PM (xxdHN)

510 Have you ever done the "land a shuttle" simulator or the docking simulator? Not as easy as you might think.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

I used to love Flight Simulator. Crashed as often as landed. Then bought the latest/greatest yoke. It then became a piece of cake. Every. Time. Landed on carriers at some incredible speed. Every. Time.

It's the right tool for our slow-speed nervous system. Without it - failure.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 19, 2017 02:26 PM (HTdUD)

511 502 IQ tests yield a normal distribution. I've wondered whether this is a function of the test itself, or whether Smarts are actually normally distributed.

From experience, I believe that that their are different kinds of Smarts, but that IQ tests are trying to measure a kind of core intelligence that's about logic and reasoning ability. I'm not an expert, but it stands to reason (mine anyway) that these tests have a limit in their accuracy when they purport to identify the smartest person among 10,000 people, as opposed to the smartest among 100. Do you really think you could design a test that by itself could say that Michaelangelo was smarter than Newton, or vice versa?


There are a couple of things measured in modern IQ tests, the results of which measurements are used to generate an overall IQ score. The median score is 100 and the numbers above and below measure standard deviation, so it's the nature of the scoring that generates the normal distribution. The test would place your boys into the same bucket way on the right side of the curve, where it stops making much sense to care about variances within the group, so no, I don't think anyone's designed a test to beat out that variance, but it would be easy to do, yes. You just keep asking questions until a variance appears. The person writing the questions has the advantage of time and all the world's resources, while the person taking the test is using their own knowledge and reasoning under time pressure.

You might see some variance within the sub-measurements between two highly intelligent individuals with the same overall score that could help account for their different specializations.

Posted by: mx4 at May 19, 2017 02:31 PM (xxdHN)

512
I was never a particularly good student--I was bored in school.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 19, 2017 01:51 PM (hJrjt)







Same here. But my big problem was that I pretty much refused to do homework. And then I'd walk into the classroom and fucking ACE the tests. Used to drive my teachers batty. And they told me so, in no uncertain terms.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2017 02:47 PM (XWkhW)

513 Even worse, when I was killing those tests, I'd almost always be the first one in class to finish.

Nothing pisses off a teacher more than someone who actually LEARNS the material, especially if they don't need the homework to do so.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2017 02:50 PM (XWkhW)

514 Genius genes are similar to big penis genes. You just never know. There are a wide range even in families.

Posted by: JoeF.

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Some of us got both genes.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2017 02:51 PM (7ZVPa)

515 Something I've been wondering for a while now, does anyone know where, exactly, the incarnation of Satan in flesh (Soros) lives?

By the way, hubby and I are average smart (children of the 70's public school system). Both our kids are smart . Boy is really, really smart (high IQ). Blew the linguistics battery (DLAB) (131 overall - 110 to qualify) and the air traffic control test (94 overall - 99 to ace it) out of the park. Girl is smart and creative. Amazing artist (no formal training). Has achieved professional success in banking (no formal training, strictly OJT). I truly believe work ethic does bear heavily on success regardless of IG.

Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF at May 19, 2017 03:13 PM (63mQb)

516 IQ not IG. Doh.

Posted by: Theresa, MSgt (ret), USAF at May 19, 2017 03:14 PM (63mQb)

517 I began to realize that perhaps these ARE the smart leftists, and that
in fact the entire half of the country who vote Democratic are in fact
the idiots - unself-aware, uncritical, automatons capable of Arendt's
"banality of evil," and that the 'strategists' at the top of the
spectrum are in fact not much more informed or self-aware.



Posted by: zombie at May 19, 2017 12:48 PM (DQ4Fv)

You ever see that movie with Roddy Piper? "They Live"

You just put on the glasses....

Posted by: Agent Cooper at May 19, 2017 03:19 PM (INRVS)

518 Yes let's!

Posted by: HarriedandHopeless at May 19, 2017 04:07 PM (Y1Oht)

519 Hell let's investigate the fact that their are more or less six conglomerates that control 99% of all media and they speak more or less with one narrative. Break 'em up! #Break_em_up.

Posted by: Locke Common at May 19, 2017 04:36 PM (Y6EAT)

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