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Sunday Morning Book Thread 05-28-2017


Library of Sting, London.jpg
Sting's Personal Library, London

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, where men are men, all the 'ettes are gorgeous, safe spaces are underneath your house and are used as protection against actual dangers, like natural disasters, or Literally Hitler, and special snowflakes do not last. And unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, and would you care to know that the guy in the yellow cap who's wearing those ugly pants is Justin Bieber? Yeah, me, neither.

"Buying books would be a good thing, if one could also buy the time to read them"
--Arthur Schopenhauer


The Universal Library

but according to this very lengthy Atlantic article, Google once planned a project to scan every book in the world:

Google’s secret effort to scan every book in the world, codenamed “Project Ocean,” began in earnest in 2002 when Larry Page and Marissa Mayer sat down in the office together with a 300-page book and a metronome. Page wanted to know how long it would take to scan more than a hundred-million books, so he started with one that was lying around. Using the metronome to keep a steady pace, he and Mayer paged through the book cover-to-cover. It took them 40 minutes.

OK, so the scanning process needed to be improved. And Page managed it, so Google was able to move forward with the project:

By 2004, Google had started scanning. In just over a decade, after making deals with Michigan, Harvard, Stanford, Oxford, the New York Public Library, and dozens of other library systems, the company, outpacing Page’s prediction, had scanned about 25 million books. It cost them an estimated $400 million. It was a feat not just of technology but of logistics.

$400 million is serious coin. So what happened? Legal problems. A bunch of authors filed suit, claiming massive copyright violations:

Instead of asking for anyone’s permission, Google had plundered libraries. This seemed obviously wrong: If you wanted to copy a book, you had to have the right to copy it—you had to have the damn copyright. Letting Google get away with the wholesale copying of every book in America struck them as setting a dangerous precedent, one that might well render their copyrights worthless. An advocacy group called the Authors Guild, and several book authors, filed a class action lawsuit against Google on behalf of everyone with a U.S. copyright interest in a book. (A group of publishers filed their own lawsuit but joined the Authors Guild class action shortly thereafter.)

I suppose it's hard to claim "fair use" when you're copying the entire book.

This piece has lots more about the Google case, and an interesting discussion about the history of the impact of technology on copyright protection - starting with the rolls of music used by player pianos.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

A SLABBERMENT is a sloppy mess.

Usage:

The Republican Party is a SLABBERMENT.
Maxine Waters' hair is a SLABBERMENT.
Ace's knees after a martial arts bout are a SLABBERMENT.


Library of NY Times, 1942.jpg
Library of the New York Times, 1942
Not shown: Walter Duranty's Pulitzer Prize

Pic Note

H/T to The Political Hat who found it in a photographic essay, A Day In The Life Of The New York Times – September 10 1942. Those were the days when it was easier to pretend that the NY Times was an actual newspaper, rather than a left-wing bullhorn. You should go over there and scroll through the other vintage photos, they're quite interesting. Being a radio geek, I especially liked the photo of the radio room. I don't recognize the receiver the op is using, it looks kind of home-brew. Also, I wonder if there are any newspaper employment opportunities today where knowledge of Morse Code is a job requirement?


Well, Dangle My Modifier

"Laughing merrily, the cake was cut."

I've always remembered this example of a dangling something-or-other (participle? participial phrase?) from a lecture in an English class many years ago. To emphasize the point, the teacher displayed a silly drawing of a laughing cake that was being sliced in half.

Here's a list that claims to be The best misplaced and dangling modifiers of all time. Not all of them are good, but there are a couple of gems here:

"With his tail held high, my father led his prize poodle around the arena."
"I saw the dead dog driving down the interstate."

(h/t FenelonSpoke)


Book Sales

Every now and then, your local library, or other liberaries close by, will have a book sale to raise money for this or that. Frequently, you can get great deals on old books. This week, I stumbled on a site, BookSaleFinder.com, that collects information on book sales all over the country and makes it available. Just click on your state on the main page to find out the dates of book sales in your state.


Books By Morons

The fourth installment of moronette author Sgt. Mom's Luna City Series, entitled, appropriately, Luna City IV (The Chronicles of Luna City Book 4), available on Kindle, has now been published in a paperback edition:

Welcome to Luna City, Karnes County, Texas … Population 2,455, counting a new arrival from Alaska. Change is in the wind, what with plans for an expansion of the neighboring Mills Farm spa and resort by the corporation which owns it. Meanwhile, a catastrophic fire has forever altered the appearance of the Age of Aquarius Camp Ground and Goat farm, where former celebrity chef, Richard Astor-Hall (previously known as Rich Hall, the Bad Boy Chef) – still on the run from his former life – is wrestling with his commitment to the community as a member of the Luna City Volunteer Fire Department… and his attraction to Miss Kate Heisel, the star reporter for the Karnesville Daily Beacon. Drastic changes are in store for many other Lunaites as well, in this fourth installation of the Chronicles of Luna City.


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New moron author Patrick Leigh has just published his first book, a flintlock fantasy novella entitled Perdita Nightshade: An Errand in Kraken Cove:

When you’re a Half-Orc living in a world of prejudiced Humans, Elves, and other beings, everyday tasks like shopping can become immense challenges... and Perdita Nightshade always did love a challenge. But she’s not just another brooding Half-Orc with a chip on her shoulder. She’s learned what it takes to overcome others’ preconceptions about people like her. Perdita’s got a rapier wit, impeccable fashion sense, a whole repertoire of smiles, and good, old-fashioned sex appeal at her disposal. And fortunately, you can find just about everything in Kraken Cove, a prosperous harbor on the frontier continent of Arcadia. Unfortunately, you can find all kinds of trouble. Perdita’s no stranger to trouble, though, and she can give as good as she gets, using her arsenal of guns, knives, swords, and even a few spells.

Join Perdita Nightshade in this flint-lock fantasy as she outfits herself and executes a personal vendetta – with potentially world-changing ramifications. In the process, she will make new friends, encounter ruthless enemies, and even draw the attention of a few divine entities.

Kindle price $2.99.


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Alec Lloyd, another new moron author e-mailed me yesterday to tell me:

I've got a few books the 'rons may be interested in. I just published "Rise of the Alliance," the second book in a four-book series. The first book is "A Man of Destiny." If I can get the gizmos to work properly, "A Man of Destiny" will be a FREE DOWNLOAD starting on Thursday to help folks catch up.

A Man of Destiny is the first of a projected four book science fiction adventure series:

While the leaders of four thousand settled planets bicker amongst themselves, the frontier worlds threaten open rebellion. The only thing the politicians can agree on is that Maxim Darius must never become Premier. With the help of a renegade knight and a smuggler-turned-mercenary, Darius will stun them all.

The sequel is Rise of the Alliance.

Lloyd has written another novel, Scorpion's Pass: A Tale of Love and War, that looks interesting:

Miss Elizabeth Woodley had never thought seriously about marriage until the dashing Marine Captain Cedric Forrester swept her off her feet. No sooner had she caught her breath than the powerful Lord William Higsby made his own offer for her hand. Now Elizabeth must make a fateful decision that will determine her happiness and the status of her family as well. Little does she know that the fate of all three will be determined in the bloody valley known as Scorpion's Pass. A.H. Lloyd's imaginative second novel, Scorpion's Pass sets the society and culture of Regency England against a backdrop of desert-roaming warships and mysterious not-quite-human savages. A blend of the historical and fantastic, Scorpion's Pass is a tale of love and honor in a time of war.

The Kindle edition is $2.99.


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




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1 Hola Book-wookies!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (NT3RT)

2 Tolle lege

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (Ot7+c)

3 Good morning.

Posted by: HH at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (DrCtv)

4 would you care to know that the guy in the yellow cap who's wearing those awesome pants is Justin Bieber?


FIFY!

Posted by: Pajama Boy at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (BO/km)

5 Re-read of the David Eddings Belgariad series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

6 I see Sting likes his books in matching sets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)

7 Good morning Hordelings.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (tr2D7)

8 Good Sunday morning, horde! It's my favorite day of the week!

Lovely library. Full of my favorite things: wood, stone, steel, and books.

I'm reading On the Brink by Jay Winik, and want to thank you again, whichever one of you recommended it to me. The end of the Cold War and transition from Carter to Reagan has the potential to be dry reading material, if written by the wrong person. But Winik makes it read like a novel, and I'm engrossed.

I was 18 in 1980 (first presidential election, voted third party, and went to college in the fall to be radicalized). My perspective on things then was through a lefty lens, so I'm getting a re-education, for lack of a better word.

Posted by: April at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (e8PP1)

9 In my hands is Atlas Obscura by Joshua Foer, Dylan Thuras, and Ella Morton. If you're planning a trip and are a fan of roadside attractions and oddities, this is your guide.

I learned that our own National Cathedral in D.C. has a Darth Vader gargoyle on the northwest tower:

https://cathedral.org/what-to-see/exterior/vader/

And here are the other gargoyles:

http://www.dcmemorials.com/Groups_NationalCathedralGargoyles_All.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (NT3RT)

10 Good morning, one and all, and many thanks to OM for putting up this lovely thread every week. I would like to point out how oppressive Sting's library is, what with all that dark wood paneling. He needs to go to re-education camp immediately.

I think I have started Martin Gilber's history of the Holocaust but it's bedtime reading which I think is a bad idea for comprehension. Maybe I'll read that on the computer screen so I'm sitting up.

And I started a book called "Violence: Reflections on a National Epidemic." It's by a prison psychiatrist not named Theodore Dalrymple and so it seems stupid. I got as far as page 42 and I think it's going in the discard pile because of the worst example of post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning that I can recall seeing:

"If anything, death is a promise of peace, which makes it understandable that executions and capital punishment encourage more murders than they deter, as judged by the fact that the only Western industrialized nation that still retains the death penalty - the United States - also has a murder rate many times higher than do those nations which have sufficient reverence for life to have abolished punishment by death."

Apparently, the doc thinks European countries like Belgium, which is currently very busy murdering those with entirely treatable mental health problems and babies ex utero with health problems, etc., etc., show more reverence for life than the US.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (STkEV)

11 I see Sting likes his books in matching sets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)


Heh. It does have that law library look and feel to it, doesn't it?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (WcAaY)

12 Good morning my fellow Book Threadists and welcome to Memorial Day weekend.

Just a reminder that Tolkien's "Beren and Luthien" goes on sale on June 1. I'm looking forward to it and intend to take the time to appreciate the poetry for its own sake and how the story fits into the Middle Earth history. I assume the story was personally important to Tolkien as he worked on it for most of his adult life and put the names on his and his wife's grave markers.

For those who enjoy the Lumby series, "Lost in Lumby" went on sale as an ebook today. This is number 6 in the series and the first new one in several years. I really enjoy the pleasant, sometimes poignant, reading these books provide and I'll start reading it tonight.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (V+03K)

13 In honor of Memorial day want to bring up1 book to recommend. Was wagching Andersonville movie last night and reminded me of John McElroy's book A Story of Rebel Prisons. I have a original copy of this book but see it can be gotten on Kindle for $0.99. McElroy was a prisoner first held in Libby prison in Richmond then transfered to Andersonville then to a prison in SC.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (Ot7+c)

14 On the Kindle, I read The Red Hill by David Penny. This is the first in the Thomas Berrington historical mystery series. Thomas is an English physician in Moorish Spain in 1482. He has a mysterious past, but his numerous body scars shows that he has seen combat. The Sultan asks Thomas to investigate a series of brutal murders, including that of one of his wives. Thomas' sidekick is Jorge, an eunuch of the harem, and together they become involved in palace politics and intrigue as they try to find the murderer before he strikes again. As a bonus, this very good mystery is set in an interesting time and place.

Posted by: Zoltan at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (go62B)

15 Every now and then, your local library, or other liberaries close by,
will have a book sale to raise money for this or that. Frequently, you
can get great deals on old books. This week, I stumbled on a site, BookSaleFinder.com,
that collects information on book sales all over the country and makes
it available. Just click on your state on the main page to find out the
dates of book sales in your state.



My wife and I are in a group called "The Friends of the Library" for our local library. We get advance notice of book sales.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (mpXpK)

16 Looks like Justin made potty in those pants.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

17 A SLABBERMENT is a sloppy mess.


Strangely enough, SLAB-O-MINT is the newest Life Savers flavor.

It's....it's not very good.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (9q7Dl)

18 Every breath you take.
Every move you make.
Every bond you break, every step you take, I'll be watching you...
Every single day and every word you say.
Every game you play, every night you stay, I'll be watching you.

Oh, can't you see? You belong to me.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 09:10 AM (vRcUp)

19 Where is the Kama Sutra nook in Sting's library?

And who are the two busts aside a scowling Beethoven? Chopin and ...?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:10 AM (NT3RT)

20 Finished 'Band of Brothers' this week. Like most similar accounts, it's difficult to come away from it without feeling like a lesser man.

Started on 'Lucky Bastard'.

Yesterday's Movie Thread mentioning 'Moby Dick' reminded me, from time-to-time crossword puzzles sometimes give the clue for a four-letter word 'Melville novel'. The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (ZO497)

21 The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (ZO497)
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I have. I like "Omoo" and "Typee" even better than his magnum dickus.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:13 AM (NT3RT)

22
Just finished reading the eARC for Correia's latest Monster Hunter International book. Mixed feelings. Has some cool new characters and situations, but it's not really the fun romp with automatic weapons through unimaginable horror that we've come to expect from an MHI novel. Plenty of automatic weapons (it's Correia, after all), but the "fun" part is kind of restrained.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 28, 2017 09:14 AM (quw2O)

23 I'm truly impressed with the number of Moron Authors--impressive you lot are.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 28, 2017 09:15 AM (nBr1j)

24 Slabberment is a great word that I never saw before. I always get a great education from the book thread. Thanks, OMuse.

I went to the library yesterday and with great determination steered myself away from the book sale that was going on. This one was for educators and normally I would have been all over that like white on rice, but I reminded myself that my home educating days are almost over.

I read The 39 Steps and am halfway through the sequel, Greenmantle, as recommended by someone here. It's very exciting and I need to step it up because I've got to know soon what happens.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (hrAi9)

25 Good morning, Horde!

Just finished "Andy And Don", a biography/history of the friendship between Andy Griffith and Don Knotts, before, during, and after "The Andy Griffith Show".

Starting "1776" by David McCullough, now that it finally showed up at my local library.

On my Kindle app is "Yesterday's Gone", a weird, creepy, post-apocalypse tale by Sean Platt and David Wright. Drags in parts, but the writers do well in painting the scenery in my mind's eye.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (rJUlF)

26 The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.


No, but I liked Billy Budd. Kind of like a proto-Gianforte.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (vRcUp)

27 I have finished book VIII of Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II covering his imprisonment by his father. ( show and tell time)
http://blog.andie.org.uk/2013/12/festung-kustrin-lost-fortress.html
He was kept in solitary confinement till he repented from his ways. The building hewas kept in fortress Custrin is gone but the ruins as it was a major battleground in WWII. It also covered his sister Wilhelmine's wedding.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:18 AM (Ot7+c)

28 Come Sunday morning, I'm usually quite the slabberment.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (Tyii7)

29 In my hands is Atlas Obscura by Joshua Foer, Dylan Thuras, and Ella Morton.

Hi, Eris!

Their website is full of great reading, too.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (rJUlF)

30 Since this is a book and writing thread, this Calvin and Hobbes cartoon seems appropriate:

http://tinyurl.com/ya5aqyay

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (gwPgz)

31 "Every now and then, your local library, or other liberaries close by, will have a book sale to raise money for this or that."

Ok so the book I am reading now is from one of those book sales. The "Cassel Dictionary of Superstitions". This is from the entry on "Left Side":

"It is almost universally recognized that the left (Latin, sinister) side is associated with evil and ill luck. Soothsayers in the ancient world identified the left as the abode of evil and ever since then it has been linked with witchcraft, the devil, and malevolent spirits"


I think that about says it all, doesn't it?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (BO/km)

32
Sting's Library looks like it is a Potemkin Library-

meant to impress visitors but never used for reading.

Well, except for maybe the red volume set at the upper right corner of the shelving.

It appears to be a rare complete set of the Galahad "Scrummy Breakfast" Finefeather Mysteries -

including the ultra-rare "The Mystery of the Crumbly Crumpet" and "Whose Beans are These?".

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

33 Frap. Off silly sock.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (BO/km)

34 Now reading Ian Mortimer's latest "A Time-Traveler's Guide", this one for Restoration England. The previous ones on Medieval England and Elizabethan England are excellent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 28, 2017 09:21 AM (pQQ6D)

35 Thanks for those NY Times photos from 1942. Might have been the last time they were a decent newspaper. Love the radio gear and the fact that it was a major resource for the paper. I was surprised they still used a sounder in the radio room. I always think of them in use in the 1800s. The gear all looked commercial to me but I'm not sure.

Also, I'll bet the fumes from all that mimeograph fluid made for some interesting reactions. The photos dealing with composing and photography are fascinating.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (V+03K)

36 Apparently, the doc thinks European countries like
Belgium, which is currently very busy murdering those with entirely
treatable mental health problems and babies ex utero with health
problems, etc., etc., show more reverence for life than the US.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (STkEV)
Not to mention that the US's murder rate isn't any higher than most European countries'; it only looks that way because the statistics are compiled differently. The US counts number of actual murders. Countries like the UK only count the number of murder convictions.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

37 25 Just finished "Andy And Don", a biography/history of
the friendship between Andy Griffith and Don Knotts, before, during,
and after "The Andy Griffith Show".



Starting "1776" by David McCullough, now that it finally showed up at my local library.



On my Kindle app is "Yesterday's Gone", a weird, creepy,
post-apocalypse tale by Sean Platt and David Wright. Drags in parts,
but the writers do well in painting the scenery in my mind's eye.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (rJUlF)

Andy Griffith met Don Knotts when they were doing the Broadway play No Time For Sargents (which was later made into a movie).

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

38 Playing devil's advocate,until the scanned book is available to the public or shared beyond google, I think scanning would be okay. I'm glad someone is doing it for preservation sake.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (IDPbH)

39 Thanks for the linkage, OM!
My daughter, who is my co-author on Luna City, is returning from California in August (she's been there since February - a matter to do with the extended family) and we'll be working market events at the end of the year ... and hopefully plotting the next Luna City installment. I'd like to bring it out next year at this time.

Oh - and on Saturday, June 10th, there will be a lot of us independent Texas authors participating in the Wimberley Book Festival, at the community center in beautiful downtown Wimberley. Stop on by, if you are in the neighborhood! (I'll be easy to spot - wearing period garb and a totally flamboyant hat.)

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (xnmPy)

40 "And here are the other gargoyles: "

I don't see Pelosi in there.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (BO/km)

41 Love that item about dangling modifiers. I wonder if there is a contest to see who can come up with the funniest ones. Sort of like the annual Bulwer-Lytton competition. Or maybe Tom Swifties.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:25 AM (V+03K)

42 Now reading Ian Mortimer's latest "A Time-Traveler's
Guide", this one for Restoration England. The previous ones on
Medieval England and Elizabethan England are excellent.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 28, 2017 09:21 AM (pQQ6D)

Ooo, I have to add that to my list. I didn't even know he'd put out another one of that series.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 09:25 AM (26lkV)

43 Thanks for that book sale finer link!

I went to NYC yesterday to check out Fleet Week. After touring a few ships, I went down to The Strand & picked up a few books. I got the collected horror stories of Robert E. Howard - illustrated, too!; Jane's World Armoured Fighting Vehicles; and a one volume encyclopedia of post war weapons systems, everything from submachine guns to submarines.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 09:25 AM (ANIFC)

44 Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

Sting was a former History teacher before he became Sting.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (IDPbH)

45 Just finished "Andy And Don", a biography/history of the friendship between Andy Griffith and Don Knotts, before, during, and after "The Andy Griffith Show".

...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread


I once thought of this really lame pun:

Q: What did Barney Fife's parents say 9 months before his conception?

A: Time to make the Don Knotts.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (vRcUp)

46 I don't see Pelosi in there.
Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (BO/km)
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Here she is!

http://www.dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0002771.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:28 AM (NT3RT)

47 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (vRcUp)

Good one but it should be 'at time of conception'

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:29 AM (IDPbH)

48 I finished "The Mystery of Lewis Carroll" by Jenny Worth. It's a good biography of the writer and she makes her points based on actual records and accounts, avoiding the BS Freudian analysis of Carroll that has been so prevalent in the 20th century. It's a nice change from the 'is he a pervert' approach too many others have taken.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:29 AM (V+03K)

49 Sting wrote the Dire Straits hit, Money for Nothing.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:30 AM (vRcUp)

50 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (mpXpK)
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No Time For Sergeants has always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (Sfs6o)

51 Good one but it should be 'at time of conception'

Posted by: Jack Sock


Gah. I need to stop sniffing this Elmers.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (vRcUp)

52 You all should take a look at the vintage NYT photos. It took a hell of a lot of big iron to get that rag out back in the day. And they had actual foreign correspondents!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (NT3RT)

53 Andy Griffith met Don Knotts when they were doing the Broadway play No Time For Sargents (which was later made into a movie).
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (mpXpK)


That's covered in the book. Don was trying out for the play. Andy recognized his voice from a radio western that Don was on, where he played a Gabby Hayes type. Andy would listen to that show while he drove around the South on the comedy circuit, and he was a huge fan.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (rJUlF)

54 Skip, Andersonville is about 65 miles from here. I've been down there on Memorial Day with the Scouts several times.

It's a very nice site with an excellent POW museum. Lots of artifacts from POW camps all over. Letters, maps, pictures, hand made things like cooking utensils, radios, things like that. Definitely worth the visit.

A book you may find interesting is the "History of Andersonville Prison" by Ovid Futch. Some people and places mentioned in that book are very closely related to my family

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (BO/km)

55 "No Time For Sergeants has always been one of my favorites"

Seconded. Protogomer.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:36 AM (BO/km)

56 52 You all should take a look at the vintage NYT photos. It took a hell of a lot of big iron to get that rag out back in the day. And they had actual foreign correspondents!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (NT3RT)

We still do. We have reporters in Texas, and Mississippi, and...

Posted by: New York Times at May 28, 2017 09:36 AM (ANIFC)

57 50 No Time For Sergeants has always been one of my favorites.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (Sfs6o)


Yeah, I always liked it too.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

58 "Here she is!"


Ah. I missed that. Why is she holding a spatula?

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (BO/km)

59 My class took a tour of the Cincinnati Enquirer building when I was a kid in the mid-60s. That was fun. I'm sure the technology in use was closer to 1942 than it was to today.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (sdi6R)

60 NTFS was on the TMC last night. Reminded me of Forest Gump in that he always came out smelling like a rose in spite of himself.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (IDPbH)

61 Good morning 'rons and 'ettes of the book.

Glad to see April is enjoying the superb narrative style of Jay Winik, an author recommended to me by another member of the Horde. I haven't read the one she's immersed in but read The Great Upheaval and 1944, the latter of which pointed out the horrendous health of Saint Delano and how he thought he was being so clever dealing with Stalin, insulting Churchill in the bargain, but was really getting his gimp ass clobbered. The Great Upheaval is simply one of the best history books I've ever read and I'm very grateful to whoever here recommended it.

Am getting close to the end of The Commodore, book 17 of the Aubrey/Maturin series and quite bluntly one of the greatest literary examinations of friendship between two very different people. This book deals with attacks against the slave trade in central Africa and the horrendous conditions on the captured ships are described in appalling detail. It also illustrates the steps that Jack takes to accommodate Stephen's desires to explore the local flora and fauna while not endangering the mission (and being bemused that after being on a ship for years at a time still doesn't have a feel for when tides change) I'll be sad at the end of this magnificent series.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2017 09:41 AM (y7DUB)

62 Yesterday's Movie Thread mentioning 'Moby Dick' reminded me, from time-to-time crossword puzzles sometimes give the clue for a four-letter word 'Melville novel'. The answer is 'Omoo'. I've never read it, never spoken to anyone who has. Has anyone here ever read it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (ZO497


Never read it, but Mrs. Muse likes to do the NY Times crosswords and 'Omoo' gets used quite a lot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:42 AM (WcAaY)

63 Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:20 AM (9q7Dl)

Sting was a former History teacher before he became Sting.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (IDPbH)


Eh. I could be wrong, but that looks exactly, exactly, like what you get when your Interior Designer-

needs to fill space left by empty book shelves.

They go down to the used book and secondhand stores and pick up old bound volume sets and single leather or faux leather volumes

because the can match things up and control the look, spacing, and symmetry.

It looks pretty, yo!

As we've seen with fellow morons, real home libraries are much more idiosyncratic affairs with lots of variation.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:43 AM (9q7Dl)

64 Until recently I did not know there was a competing classification system to the Dewey decimal system. The Library of Congress classification system. Maybe because I didn't spend much time in research libraries.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 09:43 AM (IDPbH)

65 Eh. I could be wrong, but that looks exactly, exactly, like what you get when your Interior Designer-

needs to fill space left by empty book shelves.

They go down to the used book and secondhand stores and pick up old bound volume sets and single leather or faux leather volumes

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My thoughts exactly. I used to sell rare books, and many leather bound sets were sold to decorators for that purpose.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 09:45 AM (ANIFC)

66 Google is evil and is a front for one or more Government agencies (so is Walmart),

That said Google runs the best search site and if you are looking for a lesser quote you are unlikely to find it if Google hasn't scanned the book.

Authors are funny. Most of their literary children are pretty homely.

So far "Edison's Conquest of Mars" has been a retro blast. Lots of tell not show. But the ideas and the retro are powerful. Testing of the disintegration device is historical Edison. Similar shocking to current readers as The Murders in the Rue Morgue.

Valentine Michael Smith removed unwanted items in a way that almost appears the same as the device. Dis-integrator leaves a cloud of something? Both are (fictionally) capable of removing garments.

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:46 AM (HGnpK)

67 I really enjoy reading headlines that read "Obama Donor Judge" and "Soros backed media outlet"
or "Obama appointee" "former Clinton appointee" or "Clnton campaign worker." We have point out the agenda every single time.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (11H2y)

68 I read The 39 Steps and am halfway through the sequel, Greenmantle, as recommended by someone here. It's very exciting and I need to step it up because I've got to know soon what happens.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 09:17 AM (hrAi9)


BBC-TV showed a new adaptation in 2008, which, if you ever get the opportunity to watch, you should give it a pass. It starts out promisingly enough, very exciting, the period sets look great, and then all of a sudden a KAF shows up who follows Hannay around gets him out of all of the jams he gets into. Because grrl power.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (WcAaY)

69 Slabberment: That feeling you get when you post a thoughtful and insightful response to Vic on the EMT and then realize that you've been enstompened by the Book Thread.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (Xluzf)

70 Dangling the modifier around AOSHQ is primarily discussing carnal knowledge of a simian

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (ybMGh)

71 The movie I was watching (Andersonville) seemed very accurate. Of the two books I read in fact were so close I thought they were the same book but were not but both written by former inmates.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (Ot7+c)

72 Great book thread, OM!

I just finished "Last of the Mulvaneys" by Joyce Carol Oates. Published in 1996. Very readable, with a good ending.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 09:48 AM (TdMsT)

73 Mrs. Muse likes to do the NY Times crosswords and 'Omoo' gets used quite a lot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:42 AM (WcAaY)

Do they still use "Ott," and "Alou?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2017 09:49 AM (rF0hx)

74 . The US counts number of actual murders. Countries like the UK only count the number of murder convictions.


Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)

That would mean the Chicago has hardly any murders...The mayor should point this out to everyone.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 09:50 AM (1ThGZ)

75 Here she is!

http://www.dcmemorials.com/index_indiv0002771.htm

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes


Oooh, the NatCat. Is the Episcopal Church defunct yet?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:50 AM (vRcUp)

76 I thumbed through "Microshelters" about those teeny tiny houses so popular recently. I was looking for ideas for storage and there wasn't a lot about it. It did convince me that these itty bitty abodes are only for small, young, and very agile people. Those of us the size of an overweight NFL offensive tackle are out of luck. I would be better off in a double wide trailer.

I actually like the idea of cottages. They can be cozy and comfortable for specific purposes (fishing and hunting) or to concentrate on a function (writing, painting, reading, even reloading). Thomas Jefferson had a beautiful one at Monticello. But for permanent housing, forget it.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:51 AM (V+03K)

77 Halfway through Jeff Shaara's The Frozen Hours about the Korean War. Quite good so far but as one who has read just about everything he has authored, I'm feeling a little burned out. I think that often happens with prolific writers - they can become predictable. Two observations I've come away with so far are how absolutely brutal the winter of 1950 was (let alone the carnage) for the men, particularly at Chosin. The other has been MacArthur's apparently inexplicably gross mismanagement of the conflict. This is of course the author's interpretation but as the reader, it really makes your blood boil. In any event, I would certainly recommend it based on the first half of the work.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 09:52 AM (Tyii7)

78 Moby Dick and Captain Ahab just got off on the wrong foot.

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:52 AM (HGnpK)

79 JTB, I am also pretty sure those tiny house aficionados cannot have been from large families. Anyone who grew up with multiple siblings must surely crave space.

Posted by: April at May 28, 2017 09:55 AM (e8PP1)

80 Just finished Babylon's Ashes (The Expanse book 6). Liked it. The bad guy is such an asshole that the early characterization put me in a foul mood too soon though.

Posted by: DaveA at May 28, 2017 09:55 AM (FhXTo)

81 >>he and Mayer paged through the book cover-to-cover. It took them 40 minutes.

There have been better ways to scan for a long time. I worked on some of them in the 80s.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (wwL6Q)

82 Andersonville, There is another book about the federal POW camp in Elmira, NY during the civil war. Portals to Hell, By Lonnie R. Speer, Andersonville wasn't the only hell, during the civil war.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (1ThGZ)

83 73 ... "Do they still use "Ott," and "Alou?"
CBD, I think it is a crossword puzzle law that those two have to be used every second or third puzzle. Along with actor "Esai" Morales, whoever the hell he is. It might be in Article 10 of the Constitution.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 09:57 AM (V+03K)

84 BBC-TV showed a new adaptation in 2008, which, if you ever get the opportunity to watch, you should give it a pass. It starts out promisingly enough, very exciting, the period sets look great, and then all of a sudden a KAF shows up who follows Hannay around gets him out of all of the jams he gets into. Because grrl power.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:47 AM (WcAaY)
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I think I saw that. Did it have a handsome blond guy as Hannay? I was rather miffed by that girl too and I hadn't read the book yet, although I had seen the Hitchcock movie.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 09:57 AM (sBOL1)

85 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell; it is in the Osprey Publishing "Combat" series. I have mixed feelings about this book. It is actually about the three major battles of Edward III during the early part of the Hundred Years War in France which I found informative but I was expecting more evaluation of the relative merits of the longbow compared to the crossbow based on the title; the book took a different tact and compared differences between the doctrines of the French and English armies. I also found the author's use of extensive quotations of modern historians annoying since it became obvious he was doing it to pad his word-count since most of quotations could have been paraphrased quite succinctly; on the other hand, the quotations of the contemporary chronicallers contributed to my understanding of events.

The artwork by Peter Dennis is well-done and most of the contemporary illustrations were fascinating. I'm going to give it a rating of 3.75 out of 5.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (5Yee7)

86 36, right wing yankee, "Countries like the UK only count the number of murder convictions."

I did not know that. I knew that the rest of the world counts infant mortality differently, which makes us look barbarous instead of infinitely more virtuous, but I didn't know about murder rates.

Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (STkEV)

87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)

88 Since the election, when the left doubled down on their definition of the right as "Untouchables," I find myself turning more to lighthearted escapist literature.

I'm currently reading "My Italian Bulldozer," by Alexander McCall Smith. Very lighthearted and just as silly as you might imagine.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (TdMsT)

89 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell;

That's when the fight started.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (oVJmc)

90 Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 09:52 AM (Tyii7

MacArthur was Commander for less than a year in a conflict that began with a surprise attack. Also Inchon was part of that year. MacArthur had his haters and critics before Korea so as you indicated, you must consider who is writing the history.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (IDPbH)

91 For some reason poetry has been very appealing to me lately so I've been dipping into "A Treasury of Classic Poetry". It's the fancy hardcover edition sold by Barnes and Noble. There is a nice selection to thumb through and the physical book is very nice to hold and read. It's a pleasant way to reintroduce myself to poems and poets I haven't read in many decades. And I've learned to have a copy of Shakespeare's sonnets and the complete works of Tennyson always close by to slake the occasional poetic urges.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (V+03K)

92 Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (5Yee7)

Crossbow v. longbow, around this crowd? Now you've done it.

*braces for the outbreak of WWIII*

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (26lkV)

93 "inexplicably gross mismanagement"
MacArthur was not good at all aspects of war.

"was an impossible position for a man of honor"
MacArthur had too much honor for his troops own good.
https://tinyurl.com/bdx6znx

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 10:01 AM (HGnpK)

94 I'm not casting doubt on the statement -- but I know anyone I tell about it would demand evidence because it's so astonishing. Does anyone have a source for the difference in how murders/murder convictions are counted and reported?

Posted by: Trimegistus at May 28, 2017 10:01 AM (OQYcM)

95 82
Andersonville, There is another book about the federal POW camp in
Elmira, NY during the civil war. Portals to Hell, By Lonnie R. Speer,
Andersonville wasn't the only hell, during the civil war.



Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (1ThGZ)

I had always read that the one in Chicago was just as bad as Andersonville, but you never hear about it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:02 AM (mpXpK)

96 87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)
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Me either. Got to be some left-wing commie pinko influence there somewhere. I accidentally saw the beginning of one of those shows recently - and I'd like to know how many smiling couples are still living in tiny houses after a year.

And why not just live on a boat?

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:02 AM (Sfs6o)

97 I found a first edition hardcover of "The Great Upheaval" in a bargain bin at the supermarket, of all places. It must have been remaindered, as there was a black mark across the page edges at the bottom.

I had never heard of the book or the author, but I flipped through it quickly and immediately put it in my cart. The store periodically has bargain book bins, and they are almost all cookbooks, diet books, and popular novels. I have no idea how that one ended up there. What a find.

I still haven't gotten around to reading it, alas.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (sdi6R)

98 This thread is so classy I think I'll need to upgrade to long pants and collared shirt, possibly with a neck tie.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (nBr1j)

99 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.

Me either. I know guys with deer blinds that are bigger.

Posted by: no good deed at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (hJamr)

100 Just another thumbs up for News of the World. Recommended here in the book thread by several people and it is a wonderful book. It will bring a smile to your face and quick read. Don't get thrown off by the author not using quotation marks for the characters when they speak, it works to the book's advantage. Highly recommended the book.

Posted by: RGallegos at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (Vf90p)

101 94 I'm not casting doubt on the statement -- but I know anyone I tell about it would demand evidence because it's so astonishing. Does anyone have a source for the difference in how murders/murder convictions are counted and reported?
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 28, 2017 10:01 AM (OQYcM)

I don't know if it is accurate but I know that allegation is similar to the fact on how Europe reports its infant mortality rates.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (IDPbH)

102 I see Sting likes his books in matching sets.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:04 AM (mpXpK)


I noticed that, too; while beautiful, the library had the feel of place where books had been purchased by the linear foot rather than for their content.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (5Yee7)

103 Book thread!

Sorry I haven't been online lately...hope to do better

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (hMwEB)

104 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell

Little early on a Sunday morning to start a fight, isn't it?

Posted by: April at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (e8PP1)

105 Posted by: Tonestaple at May 28, 2017 09:58 AM (STkEV)

http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/03/ comparing-england-or-uk-murder-rates.html

This article has a few good links to the UK Home Office, and details their method of compiling statistics. There is math, alas, but it's interesting math.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (26lkV)

106 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)


It's all part of the grand Third Worldization of the West.

Why should you have and nice big house and consume all of those World resources that belong to all of humanity when some guy in Africa sleeps in a tiny hut?

Same with cockroaches as food, which the Left keeps pushing.

Same with destroying the suburbs and cramming everyone into mega-apartment builds.

Same with constant push for public transportation that almost nobody wants or uses.


Tiny Houses are voluntary self-Third Worldization by numbskulls disguised as virtue signaling.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (9q7Dl)

107 I would need two tiny houses: One to live in, and one to keep my stuff.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (sdi6R)

108 "Buy the time to read them" is why I love Text to Speech. I also have the historical defense that both monasteries and mid/upper class homes made the practice of having one person read while others worked on projects and listened.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (sEDyY)

109 102 I noticed that, too; while beautiful, the library
had the feel of place where books had been purchased by the linear foot
rather than for their content.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:04 AM (5Yee7)


I figured they were just decorations.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (mpXpK)

110 I think I'm going to have another Great Upheaval ... into the toilet.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (vRcUp)

111 Barnes and Noble is having a sale on a number of their classic collectible books. These are the ones that usually sell for around twenty buck and they are half off. I have several of them and they really are nicely bound editions. The Treasury of Classic Poetry I mentioned above is one of these. It applies to mail order and in-store. The sale ends tomorrow.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (V+03K)

112 Any Hordelings in Birmingham, Alabama? Have you visited the Museum of Fond Memories at Reed Books?

http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/museum-of-fond-memories-at-reed-books

When Jim Reed’s growing collection of books and random objects started taking over his family’s house, he knew there was only one thing to do. He set up a bookstore, in 1980.

There's a little used book store on my main street that I bet had just such a start. The owner can be seen sitting at the register reading.

It would be like me opening a book store in my living room, except I reserve the right to open the shop in my robe and slippers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:08 AM (NT3RT)

113 Living in a tiny house is probably cheaper, but I couldn't stand to be crammed in like that. It probably works best for people who work long hours and only come home to sleep. And who don't have any kids.

Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:09 AM (26lkV)

114
Sting was a former History teacher before he became Sting.


This explains the sound of History repeating...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 10:09 AM (oVJmc)

115 Back in the old days, tiny houses were just called sheds.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 28, 2017 10:09 AM (fHnbd)

116 I read Longbowman versus Crossbowman by David Campbell; it is in the Osprey Publishing "Combat" series. I have mixed feelings about this book.

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Anyone here read it & really like it? We could have a longbows versus crossbows fight about Longbowman versus Crossbowman!

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (ANIFC)

117 "Crossbow v. longbow, around this crowd? Now you've done it.

*braces for the outbreak of WWIII*"

Actually, I prefer long range artillery and naval bombardment. But then I'm still learning to shoot any kind of bow.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (V+03K)

118 111 Barnes and Noble is having a sale on a number of their classic collectible books. These are the ones that usually sell for around twenty buck and they are half off. I have several of them and they really are nicely bound editions. The Treasury of Classic Poetry I mentioned above is one of these. It applies to mail order and in-store. The sale ends tomorrow.
Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:07 AM (V+03K)

Members also have a Memorial Day coupon code. I plan on getting one today.

Of course it's the bound collection of Star Wars novels.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:12 AM (ANIFC)

119 Crossbows are for pimps.

Posted by: Henry V at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (+GtGJ)

120 I lived in a 300 sq foot apartment in NYC. Will never live in something that small again.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (IDPbH)

121 I can kinda see Tiny Houses as the modern variation of the old Mother-in-law rooms over the garage.

If your backyard is big enough.

That might be okay for an aged parent who needs some help, but is still independent.

That gives everybody their own space.

Otherwise, I can't see Tiny Houses as being anything more than an affectation or possibly a getaway cabin for writing and painting.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (9q7Dl)

122 So Sting has a book museum.

That is the impression given from how well the specimens are mounted and displayed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (d4e3K)

123 Re: tiny houses.

Our house is arguably too big for just my wife and me. But I like/need/love my office/library. My wife needs personal office space and or crafting space. We like to have space for the granddaughters when they come over. And we do occasionally have overnight guests.
Hence I can't see us enjoying significantly smaller housing. Downsizing may have some value in terms of expenses but the process would be torturous.

Posted by: Northernlurker, Phillips screwdriver of the gods at May 28, 2017 10:14 AM (nBr1j)

124 >>I would need two tiny houses: One to live in, and one to keep my stuff.


I'd need 5 just for my records.

Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2017 10:15 AM (ked5m)

125 I'm two-thirds of the way through Rousseau and Romanticism which was recommended here at some point. It's made me think about where some of my own basic assumptions came from as well as those of a young man I was recently talking to who liked the idea of transhumanism. I think I'm going to recommend it to a couple of my daughters.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:19 AM (sEDyY)

126 Not sure what the sq footage of my one bedroom apt is, but I've gotten a lot into it, and it doesn't feel cramped at all.

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ANIFC)

127 So far "Edison's Conquest of Mars" has been a retro blast. Lots of tell not show. But the ideas and the retro are powerful. Testing of the disintegration device is historical Edison. Similar shocking to current readers as The Murders in the Rue Morgue.

Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:46 AM (HGnpK)


I just finished it myself and found it to be a fairly decent yarn. The best thing about it was that the story was a time-capsule of 1890's attitudes.

I had the same thought when Edison tested the disintegrator on a crow - he sure would have had PETA howling. I wonder what he thought of being portrayed as the fictional savior of mankind?

For those interested, I found a shortened version of the story in The Treasury of Science Fiction Classics, an anthology of pre-WWI sci-fi edited by Harold Kuebler and published by Hanover House in 1954.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:20 AM (5Yee7)

128 124
I'd need 5 just for my records.
Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2017 10:15 AM (ked5m)


Probably. I have two bedrooms that are chock full of stuff, like books, magazines, records, CDs, and various and sundry other things. To the point where I can barely walk around in them.

And then there's the attic.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:21 AM (sdi6R)

129 oops, that should be "pre-WWII" in my previous comment

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:22 AM (5Yee7)

130 I'd like to have an ammunition and gunpowder bunker.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:23 AM (Sfs6o)

131 I'd like to have an ammunition and gunpowder bunker.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:23 AM (Sfs6o)
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I thought you pretty much already do.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:24 AM (sBOL1)

132 Just finished listening to V the K's final installment of his Worlds Apart series. Laugh out loud passages, with several nods to the HQ, combined with political philosophy and the unending tension between those who want to be left alone and those who *need* to control others.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:24 AM (sEDyY)

133 126 Not sure what the sq footage of my one bedroom apt is, but I've gotten a lot into it, and it doesn't feel cramped at all.
Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:19 AM (ANIFC)


One thing I've always noticed when moving in and out of places is that a bare, empty room seems smaller that when it is being lived in and is full of rugs, furniture, bookshelves, knickknacks, etc.

It sounds counterintuitive, but I've had that feeling on several occasions.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:26 AM (sdi6R)

134
I thought you pretty much already do.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:24 AM (sBOL1)
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I meant one that isn't called 'half of the basement'

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 10:26 AM (Sfs6o)

135 Dutch oven, anyone?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 10:27 AM (vRcUp)

136 It would be like me opening a book store in my living room, except I reserve the right to open the shop in my robe and slippers.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:08 AM (NT3RT)


Pratchett talked about "L" space that was a topological convolution of reality caused by a large concentration of books in one place, and this explained why many bookstore owners were odd, as they are actually slip-throughs from alternate realities where opening around noon and working in a house coat or slippers was the peak of retail acumen.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (mkDpn)

137 Also finished Anna Puma's A Pinch of Larceny. Cute story in a world slightly different from this. Could have used a bit more editing, but I'm definitely interested in seeing more and learning more about the world she's written.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (sEDyY)

138 Crossbow v. longbow, around this crowd? Now you've done it.

*braces for the outbreak of WWIII*


Posted by: right wing yankee at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (26lkV)


Campbell's book never really goes into the weeds of the relative merits of the two weapons. He does make the argument that the crossbow seemed to have a shorter range than the longbow (90-m vs. 275-m). He actually writes about the doctrinal differences between the two armies which I found very interesting but I was not impressed by his writing style in this book.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:29 AM (5Yee7)

139 I've noticed lately that it is increasingly difficult to just read through a book, especially fiction, without distraction from other books. I'll start a novel and enjoy it. But then something makes me think of passage from CS Lewis about medieval literature or some detail of WW I or a cookbook recipe or tying a fly for fishing or something. This wasn't such a problem when younger. Now I'm a little concerned and annoyed.

To counter this, I'm getting out the first three books of the O'Brian Aubrey/Maturin series to read through without interruption. This will start in a week or so once I've finished the new Tolkien and the latest Lumby books I mentioned earlier. (I've been waiting for those for many moons.) I'll have "A Sea of Words" and "The Sailor's Word-Book" handy to help make sense of the nautical jargon.

Anyone else dealing with this situation? I can't be the only one concerned about the lack of extended focus.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:31 AM (V+03K)

140 Regarding Sting's libarry, I'm going to assume Sting is the sort of fella who wants to be thought of as a guy with good taste, and is well read.

But isn't.

Pretentious, if you look the word up in a dictionary, it doesn't have Sting's picture. But it should.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:32 AM (Pz4pT)

141 Do they still use "Ott," and "Alou?"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 28, 2017 09:49 AM (rF0hx)


Ayup. Also 'Eno' is common. Mrs. Muse had no idea who he was, but after having to sort through all the various clues about him in puzzle after puzzle, she now knows a good deal.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:34 AM (WcAaY)

142 "...and this explained why many bookstore owners were odd, as they are actually slip-throughs from alternate realities where opening around noon and working in a house coat or slippers was the peak of retail acumen.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (mkDpn)"
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This theory has merit.

Does it also posit why cats are often found at these waysites to other dimensions?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:35 AM (NT3RT)

143 It's made me think about where some of my own basic assumptions came from as well as those of a young man I was recently talking to who liked the idea of transhumanism. I think I'm going to recommend it to a couple of my daughters.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Part of getting older and keeping your eyes open, and actually trying to educate yourself, is the growing realization that much of what you were taught and told earlier in your life was just so much bullshit.
You are taught and told so many thing that are actually conflicting, and sorting them out may not make friends and influence people, but it can be illuminating and begin to free your mind to see the world as it actually is.
Not always a happy experience, and frequently, alienating to much of the world as it presently exists. But it is also part of being aware, and not being manipulated for the sake of others.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 28, 2017 10:36 AM (S6Pax)

144 Tiny Houses are voluntary self-Third Worldization by numbskulls disguised as virtue signaling.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (9q7Dl


I get kind of a creepy "U.N." vibe to all of this, like we all should live in these tiny houses, munching cockroaches, and speaking to each other in Esperanto.

"It's a small world after all..."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:38 AM (WcAaY)

145 Re-read of the David Eddings Belgariad series.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (mpXpK)


Me too! I'm most of the way through "Magician's Gambit" and they're almost to Prolgu. I'd forgotten how flowery some of Eddings' descriptions are.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (ar2KI)

146 Is slabberment related to slatternly? From the second paragraph of "Omoo"

"On approaching, she turned out to be a small, slatternly-looking craft, her hull and spars a dingy black, rigging all slack and bleached nearly white, and everything denoting an ill state of affairs aboard. "

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (BO/km)

147 All Hail Eris, Alan Dean Foster wrote a book about the cats and their job.

The book is called Cat-a-Lyst.
https://www.amazon.com/Cat-Lyst-Alan-Dean-Foster/dp/0441646611

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (d4e3K)

148 Anyone here read it & really like it? We could have a longbows versus crossbows fight about Longbowman versus Crossbowman!

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (ANIFC)


No, although I think my disappointment was based on my expectations of the book's title. If you write a book Longbowman versus Crossbowman it behooves you to, oh I don't know, maybe discuss the relative merits of the weapons in depth? As an analysis of what Edward III's objectives were and what he did to try to achieve them, the book is OK.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:40 AM (5Yee7)

149 87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)

It's the modern form of genteel poverty, imo

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 28, 2017 10:41 AM (hMwEB)

150 145 Me too! I'm most of the way through "Magician's
Gambit" and they're almost to Prolgu. I'd forgotten how flowery some of
Eddings' descriptions are.


Posted by: pookysgirl at May 28, 2017 10:39 AM (ar2KI)

I just wish you could get the rest of his series in the US for a Kindle. Evidently they are still squabbling over inheritance. The just recently stared selling the Belgariad series here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:41 AM (mpXpK)

151 Anyone else dealing with this situation? I can't be the only one concerned about the lack of extended focus.
Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:31 AM (V+03K)
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Me me me me me. I always have a bunch of books going and can't seem to focus on any of them. That's why I went to the library yesterday - to return them all except Greenmantle so I can finish the dang thing without the siren call of another book interrupting me.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:42 AM (sBOL1)

152 Does it also posit why cats are often found at these waysites to other dimensions?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 10:35 AM (NT3RT)


The theory does not address this, and any suggestion I make would be pure guessing.

It does remind me of a story about interdimensional holes, and things that come through them as a suggestion:

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/24392

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (mkDpn)

153 they are actually slip-throughs from alternate realities where opening around noon and working in a house coat or slippers was the peak of retail acumen.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 10:28 AM (mkDpn)
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That actually sounds like me practicing my housewifery.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (sBOL1)

154 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)

155 Polliwogette, I am glad you liked my little story. Working on three follow-on stories.

Now if I could only find if my story is listed amidst all the other entries but alas it seems Amazon has either a slabberment on their hands or simply a cock-up of epic proportions with their Storyteller contest.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yd6lu9a6

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:45 AM (d4e3K)

156 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)


Bono, because his name is shorter by one letter.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:46 AM (WcAaY)

157 I also liked. "After drinking too much, the toilet kept moving."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 10:46 AM (qES5k)

158 I found a first edition hardcover of "The Great Upheaval" in a bargain bin at the supermarket, of all places. It must have been remaindered, as there was a black mark across the page edges at the bottom.

I had never heard of the book or the author, but I flipped through it quickly and immediately put it in my cart. The store periodically has bargain book bins, and they are almost all cookbooks, diet books, and popular novels. I have no idea how that one ended up there. What a find.

I still haven't gotten around to reading it, alas.
Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:03 AM (sdi6R)


We discussed it around here before. Jay Winik is one of the better writers of American history these days. Maybe that's a low bar, because of how many bad writers of American history there are.

Anyway, read the book!

You won't be sorry.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Pz4pT)

159 If I remember correctly the US prison near Chicago had a higher death rate than Andersonville, and the prison McElroy was sent to after Andersonville was near Loris SC (?) which was mostly a carbon copy. Remember civil wars are not known for civility between the opposing sides.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Ot7+c)

160 87 I just don't get the tiny house craze at all.
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:59 AM (rJUlF)


It's the modern form of genteel poverty, imo

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 28, 2017 10:41 AM (hMwEB)


No, I think the whole push of "tiny houses are cool, yo" is more insidious than that. I think the globalists are trying to condition the proles to not expect more than a 400-ft^2 box in which to sleep, cook, watch praises of Big Brother on the TV and keep them out of inclement weather. The proles shouldn't also expect to own stuff, then they might forget their place.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:48 AM (5Yee7)

161 Tiny Houses are voluntary self-Third Worldization by numbskulls disguised as virtue signaling.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:05 AM (9q7Dl

I get kind of a creepy "U.N." vibe to all of this, like we all should live in these tiny houses, munching cockroaches, and speaking to each other in Esperanto.

"It's a small world after all..."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 10:38 AM (WcAaY)


Yeah, U.N. certainly.

But likely, this is more of the "Davos Effect"-

Our Betters World-Wide Edition have finally agreed on what to do with the rest of us.

There's a great dystopian book to be written in all this- I haven't quite found the hook yet.

But, I'm rolling it around in my peanut brain as I'm writing my current novel.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 10:50 AM (9q7Dl)

162 Dude's a wrassler. Worked hard for that library. You go Sting! Yahooo!

Posted by: The guy who mixes up his Stings at May 28, 2017 10:51 AM (+kahX)

163 Here's another misplaced modifier. which I found on a list onanother site: ""Covered with hot melted cheese, we ate the pizza."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 10:51 AM (qES5k)

164 Well on that happy thought, I am leaving the thread. Mrs. Cop is out of town for the week and I got motivated to do some re-organization. I found a nice photograph of the St. Louis Botanical Garden that I forgot we had, so I off to the wood-shop to make a picture frame and surprise her when she gets home.

Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:52 AM (5Yee7)

165 We discussed it around here before. Jay Winik is one of the better writers of American history these days. Maybe that's a low bar, because of how many bad writers of American history there are.

Anyway, read the book!

You won't be sorry.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Pz4pT)


Yes, if for no other reasons than it gives an outstanding narration of the French Revolution without having to slog through Schama's Citizens and lets you know where the phrase Potemkin Village came from

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 28, 2017 10:53 AM (y7DUB)

166 The age of recursive self-referencing is upon us.

I wanted to catch up without doing any work, so I googled Slobberment.

The first two entries are Dutch and Danish. The third, the very first one in English, points at this here page.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 28, 2017 10:53 AM (gIRsn)

167 Tiny Houses, another front pushing Agenda 21?

By making the Leftist rubes feel even more smug about saving the planet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 10:54 AM (d4e3K)

168 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)
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I think Sting, because I get the feeling Bono actually believes the stuff he says.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:55 AM (sBOL1)

169 The picture of the cartographer in the NY Times article really threw me. That means that if the Times ran a story and used a map for illustration, that map was hand drawn by someone on staff at the newspaper. Amazing.

And Sgt Mom, I have Luna City IV and enjoyed it.

Posted by: Dr Alice at May 28, 2017 10:56 AM (LaT54)

170 Another dangling participle:

Driving out of Darlington County
Eyes seen the glory of the coming of the Lord

Posted by: m at May 28, 2017 10:57 AM (VgThI)

171 I incorrectly posted that Sting had been a History teacher. He was an English Teacher.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 28, 2017 10:57 AM (IDPbH)

172 The first two entries are Dutch and Danish. The third, the very first one in English, points at this here page.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 28, 2017 10:53 AM (gIRsn)
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You got me curious, so I looked too, and you're right (naturally). But what I find funny is that the tweet OMuse linked to isn't even in the search results.

Posted by: bluebell at May 28, 2017 10:57 AM (sBOL1)

173 159 If I remember correctly the US prison near Chicago had a higher death rate than Andersonville, and the prison McElroy was sent to after Andersonville was near Loris SC (?) which was mostly a carbon copy. Remember civil wars are not known for civility between the opposing sides.
Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 10:47 AM (Ot7+c)


Also, towards the end of the war, the Confederacy had trouble feeding and clothing their own soldiers, let alone prisoners. The Union didn't have that excuse.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 10:58 AM (sdi6R)

174 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)


Good question, and I'm not prepared to gauge, but I do know Bono's version is significantly more strident.

So maybe on the basis of that extra ingredient...

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 10:59 AM (Pz4pT)

175 Actually, I prefer long range artillery and naval bombardment.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 10:11 AM (V+03K)


EMP from orbit.

Posted by: Kim Jong-un at May 28, 2017 11:00 AM (TKf/P)

176 Good morning all! Finished "Lost City of the Monkey God" and found it to be quite interesting and well-written, but with a slightly unpleasant crust of PC (he writes for NatGeo, so not surprising.) Good illustration though of liberals being attacked by far-left SWJ loons, illustrative of much that is wrong in academia.
Also read "A Green and Ancient Light" which was a kindle special yesterday. Absolutely charming and beautifully written, appropriate for older children and teens, but engaging enough for adults.
As for tiny houses (my son calls them "trailers for hipsters") - I built one in the backyard last year, to be a den but it's turned into storage. Put a metal roof on it so we could safely collect rainwater (you do NOT want to drink the water that comes off your shingle roof!) If I could put a bathroom out there, it would be a great extra bedroom, but live in something that small? No.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at May 28, 2017 11:02 AM (Tcfj+)

177 No, I think the whole push of "tiny houses are cool, yo" is more insidious than that. I think the globalists are trying to condition the proles to not expect more than a 400-ft^2 box in which to sleep, cook, watch praises of Big Brother on the TV and keep them out of inclement weather. The proles shouldn't also expect to own stuff, then they might forget their place.


Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:48 AM (5Yee7)

Seriously, no shit. Thats the same damn thing I said when watching one of those shows. I was thinking here we go, the sunlit version of THX1138.

Posted by: Berserker- Dragonheads Division at May 28, 2017 11:04 AM (aMlLZ)

178 Sting has always been pretentious. One of my older cousins told me how he was all for population control during the '80s; people should only have 2 children. He already had four at that point, and shortly after the interview had another.

I have exactly one matching set of books: Emerson that was owned by my mother's family.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:05 AM (G8B7r)

179 http://tinyurl.com/ybwqjhg6

Good survey at Gateway of the many, many leaks.

Word is Trump will be doing some unmasking of his own.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 28, 2017 11:06 AM (pV/54)

180 My present house is 1100 sq ft. and when (if) we move it will definitely be to something larger, maybe double that.

Last book I read was "Homo Deus" by Yuval N. Hariri.

Enjoyable, but he sort of lost me when he went in to scientifically explaining away the existence of the human soul as being mathematically impossible.

Just another brainy nihilist, I concluded.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:06 AM (w7KSn)

181 Merkel is a slabberment, a slobbering one. The bitch who flooded Europe with violent migrants is calling US an unreliable partner. F the Paris climate shitbox

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:10 AM (2+tI4)

182 @82 (Colin)- Fort Delaware (Pea Patch Island) was no picnic either. One of my ancestors who fought for the Confederacy was captured and didn't last a year there.

Smallpox,scurvy, malnutrition, and foul non potable water were the order of the day and all vying to kill the prisoners.

But since it was a Union prison you will never hear a word spoken about the conditions there.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 11:11 AM (ARzf8)

183 That library looks like several sets of encyclopedias. Or possibly "The History of the World" in 117 volumes.

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 28, 2017 11:12 AM (PzBTm)

184 Sting has always been pretentious. One of my older cousins told me how he was all for population control during the '80s; people should only have 2 children. He already had four at that point, and shortly after the interview had another.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:05 AM (G8B7r)


Heh. Typical left wing hypocrisy. "Restrictions for thee, but not for me."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:13 AM (WcAaY)

185 Rumor has it that each buyer of a "Tiny House" gets a free copy of Al Gore's "Earth In The Balance".

Posted by: mrp at May 28, 2017 11:13 AM (Pqytn)

186 Read Sabrina Chase's One Blood (Argonauts in Space #2) after re-reading book #1, where the main characters from the Pluto spaceship go to the planet of the Neanderthals for help against the alien threat. Their travel across the planet is reminiscent of the Ringo/Weber book March Upcountry. Really good, think it's her best book so far.

Posted by: waelse1 at May 28, 2017 11:13 AM (hgoL5)

187 176 ... Miss Sippi, Thanks for mentioning "A Green and Ancient Light". I too got the Kindle version yesterday for future reading. I can always enjoy engaging and beautifully written books. It's so damn rare these days.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 11:14 AM (V+03K)

188 A lot of the tiny house craze is the realization by people in their 40's and older that they can't buy a house on one income like their parents did. Hell, I know that since I'm single, I am going to die inside a rented property. If I buy a trailer - I'm still on rented ground.

The possibility of having a house big enough to die in - yeah, that's kind of a bummer - but for those of us without a family it's an attainable and desirable goal.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 28, 2017 11:14 AM (c1VpD)

189 >> David Eddings Belgariad series.


Awesome stuff.

Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2017 11:16 AM (ked5m)

190 So who has the bigger room?

The owner/occupant of a Tiny House or a prisoner in their cell?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (d4e3K)

191 A good application of the tiny house would be to house a mother in law or as an artist studio.
That would be just fine by me.
I'd love one on my property for a studio, situated just on the other side of the olympic size swimming pool.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (w7KSn)

192 Trump tweets:
It is my opinion that many of the leaks coming out of the White House are fabricated lies made up by the #FakeNews media.
Whenever you see the words 'sources say' in the fake news media, and they don't mention names....
....it is very possible that those sources don't exist but are made up by fake news writers. #FakeNews is the enemy!
British Prime Minister May was very angry that the info the U.K. gave to U.S. about Manchester was leaked. Gave me full details!

Game on!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 28, 2017 11:19 AM (pV/54)

193 I found Sting's library in this article, "Libraries of the Rich and Famous Part 2":

http://bookriot.com/2012/03/21/libraries-of-the-rich-and-famous-part-two/

Note Johns Hopkins Professor Richard A. Macksey's personal library of over 70,000 tomes. Wasn't this used in a previous edition of OM's illustrious and classy book thread?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 11:19 AM (NT3RT)

194 This book has been added to be To Read pile after volunteering at Trail of Honor.

Under the Cover of Light by Carole Engle Avriett tells the story of Thomas 'Jerry' Curtiss who in 1965 was shot down during a rescue mission over North Vietnam and became a POW for 7 1/2 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Under-Cover-Light-Extraordinary-Captivity/dp/1496421574

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:21 AM (d4e3K)

195 I must admit I find the move to smaller homes has it's charm. I currently have way more than I need, but I keep it in the very unlikely event that something happens to my daughter/her husband and they need to come live with me to economize. My house is paid off and big enough, hers is big but has a large mortgage. The house was large when my two daughters lived here, it's overly spacious for just two.

I cannot fathom a 100-500 Sq ft house, I have no intention of that sort of downsizing ever

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:21 AM (2+tI4)

196 190 So who has the bigger room?

The owner/occupant of a Tiny House or a prisoner in their cell?


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (d4e3K)
The prisoner of the tiny house probably sleeps there and spends the rest of the income traveling and having "experiences". Give me property over a trip to Peru any day

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:23 AM (2+tI4)

197 "...became a POW for 7 1/2 years."

Anna, I will put that on my list. I love reading true stories like that.

You likely have read or seen "Little Dieter Needs to Fly"
A similar true story of struggle, captivity and rescue.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:24 AM (w7KSn)

198 As for books, I'm trying to delve into Charles Williams these days. Not sure I'm crazy about him, but the free Gutenberg project books makes it doable

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:25 AM (2+tI4)

199 I think the globalists are trying to condition the proles to not expect more than a 400-ft^2 box in which to sleep, cook, watch praises of Big Brother on the TV and keep them out of inclement weather. The proles shouldn't also expect to own stuff, then they might forget their place.


Posted by: Retire Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 28, 2017 10:48 AM

Maybe, but I think it's also because people want to own a house (not rent) but the price it out of reach and/or the maintenance of a large house is too much.

I have a small house (less than 1K sq feet). I bought it from a family of four who considered it a starter home. My insurance agent looked at it wistfully and said she and her husband would love to trade their big house for something like it, but their house was paid off and low-tax because of the Headlee amendment. So it's a retirement home, too.

Down the street is another one like mine with a family of six (all boys). They've lived here at least five years. The boys are outside all the time, and they don't have a bunch of toys, just bikes and balls.

But it's not the smallest home around here. I looked at one that's 700 and another 500 square feet - both hunting/fishing cabins used as full-time homes. An 80K house leaves room for car and student loan payments.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:25 AM (G8B7r)

200 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:17 AM (d4e3K)
The prisoner of the tiny house probably sleeps there and spends the rest of the income traveling and having "experiences". Give me property over a trip to Peru any day
Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:23 AM (2+tI4)


People can do what they want, but I have to think the tiny house people have as an undercurrent a belief that their "smaller footprint" on the planet is a good thing.

So... when you jet set around the globe much of your time, you're lying about the footprint thing. Your footprint is likely BIGGER than the guy who spends most of his time at home. It's just, your footprint is stomping all over the place, so you can lie to yourself about its size.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 11:26 AM (Pz4pT)

201 I have a cousin who lives in about a 700 sq ft cottage in Minnesota.
But, it's on a 3 acre lot. Waterfront.
Nice, but she gets the heck out of there come October thru April or so.

Posted by: navybrat at May 28, 2017 11:27 AM (w7KSn)

202 The receivers in the NYT radio room look like National products; the big weird vernier tuning dial in the middle, the bar knobs on other controls, and I see a diamond-shaped logo on one of the speakers.
No idea what model unless I go look through the 30's radio magazines.
And could that picture have been taken from a worse angle for identifying the equipment ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 28, 2017 11:28 AM (yV8pG)

203 Note Johns Hopkins Professor Richard A. Macksey's personal library of over 70,000 tomes. Wasn't this used in a previous edition of OM's illustrious and classy book thread?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 11:19 AM (NT3RT)


Yes, I believe so. And I much prefer the perfesser's library to Sting's. It looks like a library that actually gets used.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:31 AM (WcAaY)

204 Hey, I pioneered tiny houses.

Posted by: Ted Kaczynski at May 28, 2017 11:31 AM (sdi6R)

205 People can do what they want, but I have to think the tiny house people have as an undercurrent a belief that their "smaller footprint" on the planet is a good thing.

So... when you jet set around the globe much of your time, you're lying about the footprint thing. Your footprint is likely BIGGER than the guy who spends most of his time at home. It's just, your footprint is stomping all over the place, so you can lie to yourself about its size.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 28, 2017 11:26 AM (Pz4pT)
Yes and the virtue signaling of the globetrotters makes me ill "we're not about property...did I tell you about my trip to Thailand..." Just a different form of conspicuous consumption with nothing to show for it down the road. The son of a friend had the temerity to ask for money for a baby shower so that they could take the poor thing to South America before he's one year old

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:31 AM (2+tI4)

206 I've watched the tiny house shows on TV with the people so excited and self righteous about "down sizing" and squeezing their family of 5 into a closet. I've always wanted to see them a year later. Are they still living "tiny"? Are they still together? Has one family member snapped and murdered the others? Have the children run off to join the circus?

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 28, 2017 11:33 AM (PzBTm)

207 206 I've watched the tiny house shows on TV with the people so excited and self righteous about "down sizing" and squeezing their family of 5 into a closet. I've always wanted to see them a year later. Are they still living "tiny"? Are they still together? Has one family member snapped and murdered the others? Have the children run off to join the circus?

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 28, 2017 11:33 AM (PzBTm)
Yep, the halo they put on their heads pisses me off

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:34 AM (2+tI4)

208 NavyBrat, Col. Curtiss was at the Trail of Honor. He is a polite person, a real gentleman.

He was telling a few of us how he ended up a POW. His helicopter was hovering dropping a jungle penetrater to the pilot below when it was hit. Next thing that happens is the rotor blades are shattering while hitting the jungle trees and Curtiss is worrying they'll land atop the pilot. Luckily them crushing the pilot did not happen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (d4e3K)

209 Valentine Michael Smith removed unwanted items in a way that almost appears the same as the device. Dis-integrator leaves a cloud of something? Both are (fictionally) capable of removing garments.
Posted by: Ok at May 28, 2017 09:46 AM (HGnpK)

As are our transporters. And our doctor is a traditionalist.

Posted by: Daimon Tog at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (brIR5)

210 Has anyone read American Gods or Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman? Is he worth putting on the 'to be read at some point' list?

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (V+03K)

211 Thanxs Anna for that tip.
My cousin was there for 6 1/2 years. Some very interesting experiences.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (0tfLf)

212 The book I mainly remember Sting name-dropping was Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (6FqZa)

213 Months ago, I recommended Darker Shade of Magic (VE Schwab) when I was about halfway through the book. It started with a bang, but crawled across the finish line. I had bought that book when I was in London, but decided to wait for the library to get the next one (Gathering of Shadows) in. It was OK, but I won't be checking out the third one. Overall, I have decided that I loved the world building side of the books, but not the plot nor characters so much.

Did read a fun mystery- tight plot and interesting characters: Still River by Harry Hunsicker. Murder and real estate are not two things that make me say "read this book", but it came recommended. Set in Dallas area with some guns, drugs, and politics mixed in.


Posted by: Charlotte at May 28, 2017 11:36 AM (eBG5R)

214 I often reread books I enjoyed as a child. I came across a book I loved when I was maybe 13, Imperial Governor by George Shipley. The book is a fictional, first person account by Paulinus, Imperial Governor of the province of Britain, of Queen Boudicca's revolt against Rome in the first century. I'm less than a quarter way through but it does live up to my recollection (which is not always the case with the books of my youth). This time I understand more of the book both because I understand much more about Ancient Roman than I did as a youth (this is probably the first book about Ancient Rome I ever read) and I understand much more of the economic and social issues presented.

The author is rather inspiring. A career soldier, he began as a cavalry officer in India in the 20s and served through WWII as a staff officer. After the war, he was a teacher for 20 years and only after his second retirement did he begin to write; I.e., at about my age. This was his first book (although it reads as the work of a more experienced writer). He wrote a handful of other books and was lauded for his historical accuracy. He does write with the attitude of a first century Roman whose views are not whitewashed to avoid offense to modern eyes. He is forgotten today but he did provide me with entertainment and enlightenment during the Johnson administration and during the Trump administration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (Nwg0u)

215 Since we're probably going to be moving soon but have no idea when (the AF hasn't even started on Pooky's administrative discharge), we've started to plan out how to pack. I suggested boxing up our four bookcases, but we got stuck on what to leave out. Plus, that means we'd have to box up Pookette's books, and she'd probably have a cow over that since taking away books is a form of punishment. Ah, the perils of a family of bibliophiles.......

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (ar2KI)

216 The book I mainly remember Sting name-dropping was Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (6FqZa)


Which he never actually mentioned by name, just "that book by Nabokov."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (WcAaY)

217 The tiny house thing is interesting from a utility aspect. My 2nd house was about 1300 sq feet (counting the basement) and that was more house than we needed.

But now we live in a 2200 sq ft house(not counting the garage and 2 outbuildings) and its way more than we need, but I like it. Its on several acres though.

I really can't imagine cramming into 400 sq feet unless I was homesteading out in a wilderness area and then you would have the great outdoors to expand into.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 28, 2017 11:40 AM (ARzf8)

218 Diogenes, yes. Very interesting is a polite way to put it.

Another POW at the Trail of Honor was Lt. Cmdr. Agnew, RVAH-13, pilot of RA-5C Vigilante Bu No 1556633. His recon plane got shot down by a MiG-21.

One of his comments on him being captured was - "they stepped aside so I could land."

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:40 AM (d4e3K)

219 Google's scanning project had some real benefits for me. I was living in rural Louisiana working as a contractor at JRTC and trying to do my master's at the same time. There was some out of print stuff on the Imperial Japanese Navy I wanted/needed for paper on Alfred Thayer Mahan and the Pacific War, plus some of Mahan's more obscure shit that Google Books was able to pull out for me. Even with copyright redactions, I was able to get some good quotes and page cites.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at May 28, 2017 11:40 AM (mS2v0)

220 Has anyone read American Gods or Anansi Boys by Neil Gaiman? Is he worth putting on the 'to be read at some point' list? Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 11:35 AM (V+03K)
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Yes to both. Sometimes the mashup of the various mythologies is hard to follow, but both are good tales. Very dark, but the Trickster legends are dark. I think both would have been tighter with more editing, but definitely worth the time. ps -- read in chrono order.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)

221 Which he never actually mentioned by name, just "that book by Nabokov."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 11:39 AM (WcAa

Don't stand. Don't stand so close to me.

Posted by: Daimon Tog at May 28, 2017 11:45 AM (brIR5)

222 Ferengi sock off!

Posted by: Fox2! at May 28, 2017 11:45 AM (brIR5)

223 Isn't a "Tiny House" just a trailer without a park?

Posted by: X-ray at May 28, 2017 11:46 AM (N4gtY)

224 Does anyone really imagine Sting spends his time pouring through the collected works of whover in these antique editions?

Posted by: CN at May 28, 2017 11:46 AM (2+tI4)

225 188 A lot of the tiny house craze is the realization by people in their 40's and older that they can't buy a house on one income like their parents did. Hell, I know that since I'm single, I am going to die inside a rented property. If I buy a trailer - I'm still on rented ground.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 28, 2017 11:14 AM

I bought my house because rent and utilities kept going up. Even though the market crashed and my property is worth 40K less than what I paid (and about half the top of market), I pay about $650 a month for mortgage, insurance, and utilities. That was just my rent at a one bedroom apartment when I moved.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 28, 2017 11:47 AM (G8B7r)

226 When I originally bought my house it was 1420 sq ft on a 3/4 acre lot. It is in the county but near the town. I paid $50K for it in 1981. It is now ~1700 sq ft on 1.5 acres.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 11:50 AM (mpXpK)

227 George Shipley should be George Shipway

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 11:51 AM (mkDpn)

228 157 I also liked. "After drinking too much, the toilet kept moving."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 10:46 AM (qES5k)


Ah yes, that reminds me of my college days.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 11:51 AM (sdi6R)

229 Google's prohibition against being evil always seems to run smack dab into the fact that they cannot tell right from wrong.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2017 11:52 AM (g8Y0s)

230 Help! I've gone down the rabbit hole of Pinterest library porn!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (NT3RT)

231 168 More pretentious: Sting or Bono?
Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at May 28, 2017 10:44 AM (ybMGh)
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I think Sting, because I get the feeling Bono actually believes the stuff he says.
*********************

It's a toss-up, but I'd go with Sting. Bono at least used to flummox his anti-Bush audiences by saying "W" had done more to fight AIDS in Africa than any other President.

Confusion, cognitive dissonance and consternation ensued....

Posted by: Noam Sayen at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (611Lm)

232 Does anyone really imagine Sting spends his time pouring through the collected works of whover in these antique editions?
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Before the internet, as a reader or student, having sets was actually useful because you could find, in your own house, stuff to read and citations to use without the time constraints of library hours. So I don't make too much fun of people with matchy-matchy sets -- the only times I do is when they are obviously books by the yard of old obscure novels bought as decor (I have actually attempted to read some of them) like the Franklin Mint/Readers Digest. Bound in the finest Corinthian Leather.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 28, 2017 11:53 AM (MIKMs)

233 Anna.
Yes, trying to be polite. Harrowing, brutal, cruel. Those apply too.
I've read McCain's book about it. And spoken with the cousin. A very difficult time but in retrospect after learning how they coped, very uplifting.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 28, 2017 11:54 AM (0tfLf)

234 I liked American Gods. It's not one I would call a must read, but it was entertaining enough. One word of caution though, it does have a pretty graphic gay scene. It's not story line related though, so feel free to skip it.

Posted by: Lauren at May 28, 2017 11:55 AM (OeoF8)

235 Maybe this will rescue All Hail Eris, a history of the boot.

https://www.amazon.com/Boot-Bradley-Quinn/dp/1856696634

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 11:56 AM (d4e3K)

236
B-52 flyover of the Indy 500 opening ceremonies. Must be from Minot...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 28, 2017 12:00 PM (4DCSq)

237 Book Expo America is this week at the Javis Center in NY

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 28, 2017 12:01 PM (CesFO)

238 George Shipley should be George Shipway

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D'oh!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 12:02 PM (Nwg0u)

239 Lauren and mustbequantum, Thanks for the remarks about Neil Gaiman. He goes on the list.

Posted by: JTB at May 28, 2017 12:07 PM (V+03K)

240 hi there, I've been researching a story on tiny houses for the senior citizen website I write for. Some of 'em say that smaller footprint BS, but most want to own something nice that they can afford. Oldsters want to downsize and be closer to relatives without renting -but older couples say that a couple of rainy days gets tiresome . I'm looking because I'm 62 and need an exit strategy from NYC when they finally kill rent stabilization protection. I will never be able to get a mortgage, don't have a lot of dough and lived in 600 sq feet or less almost my whole life, in railroad flats. Not. big change.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 12:08 PM (11H2y)

241 Who couldda seen this coming? From the NYT'

We'll probably never know Salman Abedi's true motive.

http://tinyurl.com/yc3odo8b

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (Nwg0u)

242 The room I'm sitting in right now is the smallest bedroom in my house.

The house was built at the height of the baby boom in the 1950s, so it was probably intended as a nursery.

When my family first moved here, it was my younger sister's bedroom. Eventually she outgrew it and moved into a larger bedroom.

Then my dad used it as a den. Today I use it for much the same purpose, and since my computer is here, I spend more time in this room than any other. I hardly ever use the much larger living room since I quit watching TV.

You would not believe how much stuff I have crammed into this room. Yet I find it comfortable.

If I emptied out this room, it probably wouldn't be much bigger than a walk-in closet in some houses.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (sdi6R)

243 Heh. It does have that law library look and feel to it, doesn't it?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 09:06 AM (WcAaY)

I noticed that, too. Almost as though the library was supplied by an interior decorator. I remember a pub in Vancouver, B.C. that was decorated that way, and most of the books were old law books, outdated encyclopedias, and cheap bound set of classics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (XUcIQ)

244 Looks like Justin made potty in those pants.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:08 AM (sdi6R)

Those are high-capacity pantload pants.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:13 PM (XUcIQ)

245 229 Google's prohibition against being evil always seems to run smack dab into the fact that they cannot tell right from wrong.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 28, 2017 11:52 AM (g8Y0s)

Google is not a thinking entity... it is a Company controlled by a small group of people....

So you must then ask, what do the people who control the company think.... do they even believe in EVIL? do they have some base beliefs about what is good? or what is evil? and are the CONSISTENT?

Its like the 'the US Government has an interest in'.... well.. no... the US Government itself has no interests... the people RUNNING said government does, and then they HIDE their actions behind the larger unaccountable term...

Posted by: Don Q. at May 28, 2017 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

246
I bought way more house than I needed. But then I'm not a very disciplined individual. If I hadn't purchased something of enduring value I would have spent my life buying rapidly depreciating crap.

In the end, with mortgage paid, and it having appreciated something like three times the initial purchase price, it seems like it was a good idea. For me.

I'm only presenting this as the other side of the coin. I don't recommend this for anyone, much less everyone. There's financial self discipline, which I lack, and the strict financial discipline imposed by scrapping by month to month for decades.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 12:14 PM (HTdUD)

247 and yes a tiny house is a trailer without a park. They are on wheels (I saw a story about people getting their tiny house stolen, too.) all those tiny house folks are in locations where there are no zoning problems, isolated, where they own the land. A lot of communities don't like tiny houses because they impact property values...and there are lots of social service types who think tiny houses are good solution to the homeless problem. I agree that a follow up story a year later would be great.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 12:15 PM (11H2y)

248 *shakes fist at Anna*

Alright, off to visit my good friends who don't live in little grey boxes.

Hey, we're all Tiny House aficionados here!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 28, 2017 12:18 PM (NT3RT)

249 Appropriate for Memorial day I'd like to recommend all the Vietnam books by Keith William Nolan. He wrote 12 of them, interviewed dozens of the survivors of the units involved, one of them was my old unit , 9th Inf. in Tet "House to House", I knew a lot of the guys and incidents. The guys are all in their late 60s to early 70s now, it seems the public doesn't have too much interest in this period.Anyway Good Reads link below with description of his books.

http://tinyurl.com/y6vz5kno

Posted by: JHW at May 28, 2017 12:19 PM (kn0BL)

EMT 05/28/2017

Criminy it's almost June already.

Posted by: krakatoa at 06:00 AM




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1 Good Morning Morons. Today is Sunday, May 28, 2017. On this day in 1964 the terrorist organization the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) was formed. Since then they have been normalized and now have observer status in the UN.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:51 AM (mpXpK)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 05:51 AM (Ot7+c)

3 Obamanite judge throws out a lawsuit against Scankles by parents of Benghazi victims. The obviously biased black robe ruled the parents didn't sufficiently challenge that Clinton was not acting in her official capacity when she used the private server, and that the families didn't put forward appropriate claims that Clinton defamed them or put them in a false light. Scankles will never be held accountable for her many felonies. IIRC Scankles called them all liars and that does fall into the category of defaming them.


http://tinyurl.com/ybvgahoz

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

4 Sears has been struggling for a while, especially after they bought the failing K-Mart enterprise. But some are now saying it is in free fall.


http://tinyurl.com/yddqo2zv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

5 The MFM is making a big deal out of Kushner contacting the Russians to set up a communications channel after the election was over. What is the big deal here, we are not supposed to talk to the Russians now? The MFM has gone absolutely rabid in their Trump hate.


http://tinyurl.com/y8oo3bfa

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

6 Trump's national security adviser says they are not concerned as they have back channel communication setups with many countries. But the MFM is big on any kind of Trump hate.


http://tinyurl.com/y75tlwxy

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:53 AM (mpXpK)

7 Senate RINOs are supporting the Dems irrational Trump "Russia" story now. Don't forget that this whole issue was made up out of thin air by Scankles.


The Senate Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential race, has asked President Trump's political organization to gather and produce all Russia-related documents, emails and phone records going back to his campaign's launch in June 2015, according to two people briefed on the request.


There is no "there" there but Republicans are now helping the Democrats keep this BS alive. Richard Burr ACU 62 = big RINO.


http://tinyurl.com/ybaxu6sa

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:54 AM (mpXpK)

8 Recall yesterday when I said Trump needed to fire his economic adviser because of his stupid comments on coal. Well Joe Manchin from WV feels the same way.


http://tinyurl.com/y6vsxqzz

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

9 Recall Trump said he would decide what do do with the illegal Obama Paris agreement that constituted an un-ratified treaty this upcoming week? Well the rumors are out now that the Paris crap is dead.


http://tinyurl.com/y8y3xtrr

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

10 Gee, aren't we all flabbergasted that Tillerson refuses to host a phony Ramadon celebration at the State Department? I fart in the critics general direction.


http://tinyurl.com/yc9yxklw

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

11 And speaking of leakers, three hold-overs from Obama have been identified as the leakers of classified information and will be fired shortly. Also likely prosecuted.


http://tinyurl.com/ybn7md9a

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

12 Criminy it's almost June already.

And the weather in my area feels like mid April, not that I'm complaining.

Posted by: RickZ at May 28, 2017 05:56 AM (5J6OM)

13 A muzzie in MI is suing Little Ceaser's for $100M after they served him pepperoni. Good luck with that one. His lawyer should be disbarred.

http://tinyurl.com/y7t4utm6

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

14 NC Lt Governor says that big business attacked their bathroom bill even though they agreed with it because they had no balls.


http://tinyurl.com/ycwlqnsh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:56 AM (mpXpK)

15 Companies who make suppressors ridicule Whoreywood and their depiction of silencers in the movies.


http://tinyurl.com/ycxh3s9q

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

16 Gentlemen start your engines, with a cup of coffee at least.
Today is the greatest racing day, First off Monico which is on NBC pre race at 7:30 race starts at 8am, and the Indianapolis 500 e race starts at 11 am race at 12 noon on ABC.
And as always for F-1 during commercials flip to the Spanish channel UniMas for a commercial free veiwing.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 05:57 AM (Ot7+c)

17 The latest global warming scam. Global warming in ancient times created so many new plants it caused the earth to cool. The stupid, it burns.


http://tinyurl.com/yap8xt3k

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

18 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/h66oy9k



That's it for today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:57 AM (mpXpK)

19 Individual Democrates here and there keep floating out their dream that the Donald is going to resign soon, any day really.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 06:02 AM (Ot7+c)

20 Individual Democrates here and there keep floating out their dream that the Donald is going to resign soon, any day really.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 06:02 AM (Ot7+c)


Well, to be fair, in their feeble (febrile?) minds, living in Fantasyland is better than living in Trump's Amerikkka.

Posted by: RickZ at May 28, 2017 06:09 AM (5J6OM)

21 And speaking of leakers, three hold-overs from Obama have been identified as the leakers of classified information and will be fired shortly. Also likely prosecuted.


http://tinyurl.com/ybn7md9a

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:55 AM (mpXpK)

A treason trial or two would be cheery. IMHO

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 28, 2017 06:15 AM (d76uN)

22 The MFM is making a big deal out of Kushner contacting the Russians to set up a communications channel after the election was over. What is the big deal here, we are not supposed to talk to the Russians now? The MFM has gone absolutely rabid in their Trump hate.

Leaking leakers create need for back channel, information about back channel is leaked.

Impeachment. Any. Day. Now.

/ in their twisted little hair-on-fire fantasies

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:24 AM (HTdUD)

23 Criminy it's almost June already.

Wouldn't know it from the unseasonably cool weather and incessant rain in these parts Though things are finally looking up, relatively speaking.

Off to the gym for some Gainzzz, then to a mega-garage sale in the town park where I intend to only browse but will probably end up spending too much money. Then out to the country for a picnic at my bro's. Lots to do and all of it good.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 06:24 AM (ul9CR)

24 JFK had a back-channel with Russia.

But I guess it's like Her being horrified and frightened by Trump firing an FBI director when Her's husband did the same as POTUS. It's different when Trump does it.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 06:27 AM (ul9CR)

25 We are sure not getting unseasonably cool weather here. It got to 95F yesterday.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 06:27 AM (mpXpK)

26 Sears has been struggling for a while, especially after they bought the failing K-Mart enterprise. But some are now saying it is in free fall.


http://tinyurl.com/yddqo2zv
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:52 AM (mpXpK)

Yeah the original Kmart on Ford & Middlebelt Roads in Garden City, Mi closed about a year ago. All brick & mortar stores are in trouble, due in no small part to that idiot Bozos.
(Or Kame Apart as my brother called them).

Posted by: F.N.G. at May 28, 2017 06:28 AM (kiSdp)

27 We are sure not getting unseasonably cool weather here. It got to 95F yesterday.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Share the wealth, dude. I put tomato plants in the ground two weeks ago and they've done nothing. Like someone said, it's been April here all month.

May has always been my favorite month, no need for heating or air conditioning. Well heating is still needed at night.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:30 AM (HTdUD)

28 Has every Democrat commencement speaker used their roll as a political cudgel to beat the Trump administration?

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 06:30 AM (Ot7+c)

29 Has every Democrat commencement speaker used their roll as a political cudgel to beat the Trump administration?

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 06:30 AM (Ot7+c)


Two day old bagels make a good cudgel. Or a hockey puck in the Stanley Cup Finals.

Posted by: RickZ at May 28, 2017 06:34 AM (5J6OM)

30 Has every Democrat commencement speaker used their roll as a political cudgel to beat the Trump administration?

Posted by: Skip

Yeah, they're really racking up the victories at the polls with that strategy of antagonizing more than half the population.

Speaking of antagonizing more than half the population -- I broke a coffee carafe yesterday and had to break my Target boycott for replacement. Gayest dude ever was check-out clerk. As we paid I said to wife, within earshot of gayest dude, 'You want to hit the bathroom before we leave, meet some guys?'

If looks could kill, I'd be dead.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:39 AM (HTdUD)

31 Delingpole interviews Douglas Murray

http://www.breitbart.com/podcasts/james-delingpole/

He consistently does great podcasts, but not as frequent as I would like.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 28, 2017 06:41 AM (VdICR)

32 Big LT Gov. Dan Forest fan. He has a bright future ahead him.

Don't forget the Coca-Cola 600 later today, Skip.

Posted by: golfman at May 28, 2017 06:41 AM (48QDY)

33 30 Speaking of antagonizing more than half the
population -- I broke a coffee carafe yesterday and had to break my
Target boycott for replacement. Gayest dude ever was check-out clerk. As
we paid I said to wife, within earshot of gayest dude, 'You want to hit
the bathroom before we leave, meet some guys?'



If looks could kill, I'd be dead.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:39 AM (HTdUD)

You know it is cheaper to go to Walmart and buy the whole coffee maker than to buy a replacement carafe.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 06:43 AM (mpXpK)

34 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 28, 2017 06:45 AM (KCxzN)

35 Mornin' y'all. In three weeks the days start getting shorter. Think about that.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at May 28, 2017 06:46 AM (pI8fU)

36 You know it is cheaper to go to Walmart and buy the whole coffee maker than to buy a replacement carafe.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Actually I had a brain fart when I typed that, couldn't think of name. It was a set of glass and stainless steel matching 'canisters' I used to store coffee in which I had at bought at Target years ago, before boycott.

I don't know how the hell I broke the thing without chipping a backsplash tile, but I did. Guess I should count myself lucky, chipping out a tile and re-grouting would have been a huge time sink.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:49 AM (HTdUD)

37 Here in N Illinois, we're supposed to be done with rain for a few days. Only thing doing well in the gardens are the roses. The whole past month has been rainy/misty/pouring rain, almost. It's like we moved to Seattle or some such. Ugh.

Posted by: lizabth at May 28, 2017 06:50 AM (CIDui)

38 K-Mart bought Sears

Posted by: tmitsss at May 28, 2017 06:54 AM (3LAYT)

39 36 Actually I had a brain fart when I typed that,
couldn't think of name. It was a set of glass and stainless steel
matching 'canisters' I used to store coffee in which I had at bought at
Target years ago, before boycott.



I don't know how the hell I broke the thing without chipping a
backsplash tile, but I did. Guess I should count myself lucky, chipping
out a tile and re-grouting would have been a huge time sink.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:49 AM (HTdUD)

OK, that's a different story.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 06:54 AM (mpXpK)

40 38
K-Mart bought Sears

Posted by: tmitsss at May 28, 2017 06:54 AM (3LAYT)

I thought it was the other way around. But I just checked and you are right, K-Mart bought Sears but it was really pretty much a merger of two failing companies.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 06:57 AM (mpXpK)

41 Why wouldn't a Malthusian think than plants would proliferate until limited by available CO2

Posted by: tmitsss at May 28, 2017 07:01 AM (3LAYT)

42 Grand Prix of Monaco coverage starts on NBC in about twenty minutes, kicking of the Greatest Day of Racing.

I'm pleasantly surprised to be awake to catch it this year

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 28, 2017 07:02 AM (3Liv/)

43
I miss my local Sears. It's now some sort of dented and damaged appliance center -- with thoroughly empty parking lot. Used to be full scale store with a couple dozen cars in parking lot, selling hardware and paint. I was in it all the time buying paint, stain, rollers, brushes, etc.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 07:03 AM (HTdUD)

44 Plants die at >140ppm co2 IIRC. They thrive and retain water better at higher amounts. The top of the effect is 1000 ppm.

Greenhouses will burn propane inside, not for the heat, but the co2 byproduct.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 28, 2017 07:05 AM (VdICR)

45 36>> ISWYDT. Good morning everyone. Birds are up, pups are up. Guess I'm up. Go go gadget coffee!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 07:06 AM (Xr2/U)

46 Greg Allman's autobiography was interesting to this child of the 50's

Posted by: tmitsss at May 28, 2017 07:06 AM (3LAYT)

47 If the Sears in your area closes, get your butt down there for the going out of business sale. At the end, they're almost giving stuff away. I went to my store's closing sale a little to late. Mostly it'd been picked over but everything they still had was super cheap.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 28, 2017 07:07 AM (b8+C/)

48 Peaked at the Chicago Tribune: I quickly glance at this "news" site to see what mayhem happened Sat. (Trying to avoid the Trump hate articles)

11 shot, none killed, I guess those "put you guns down" signs are working, or the weather has kept the gang bangers home.
Baltimore is up to 142 dead now. Chicago 224 dead...Baltimore is doing well in keeping the population down.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 07:09 AM (1ThGZ)

49 Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 05:57 AM (Ot7+c)


*high fives*

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 28, 2017 07:09 AM (3Liv/)

50 Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 06:39 AM (HTdUD)

If iIwere your wife, Id probably give you a look that could kill too. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 07:13 AM (qES5k)

51 With Hillary on the cover of New York magazine, reminding everyone she is still willing and able. I remember my days in NYC when I bought that mag. and liked it, that was long ago. (while at City College)

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 07:16 AM (1ThGZ)

52 Prayer request-

I have to go into a meeting that is potentially very conflicted and unpleasant at 10:00 EST. Prayers that rough places would be made smooth would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2017 07:16 AM (qES5k)

53 A new $80 million anti-Trump network is being led by an organization whose top funder is liberal billionaire George Soros and which employs former members of the controversial and now-defunct Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).

Passed in 1970, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) is a federal law designed to combat organized crime in the United States. It allows prosecution and civil penalties for racketeering activity performed as part of an ongoing criminal enterprise.

Attorney General Sessions to the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 07:16 AM (HTdUD)

54 I may go see the new Pirates of the Caribbean today. On the other hand, I may go get some more plants at the nursery and spend the day in the yard. Maybe both. What to do, what to do.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 07:17 AM (Xr2/U)

55 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at May 28, 2017 07:20 AM (yV8pG)

56 If iIwere your wife, Id probably give you a look that could kill too. ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Nah. She laughed. The thought of using the womans bathroom with some tranny dude behind the door creeps her out. She's 'old school' that way.

Ripe for the reeducation camps.

That seems like a good t-shirt.
'Re-education Camp Material' -- to remind the commies of just how vile they are.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 07:21 AM (HTdUD)

57 I bought the cheapie Mr. Coffee at Walmart.

No clock. Just on-off button. $15.88

I got a couple of old carafes. Any body want them?


Posted by: JAS at May 28, 2017 07:21 AM (EX4Wr)

58 Good morning all y'all.

Will pray, FS. I trust that yours will be a calming presence.

Unlike here, where you're always stirring things up!!

I have to make a breakfast casserole this morning and can hear a big thunderstorm coming. I'm sure the power will stay on...


Some. Day. I. Will. Have. A. Gas. Stove. Again.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 28, 2017 07:22 AM (wwL6Q)

59 On the other hand, I may go get some more plants at the nursery and spend the day in the yard. Maybe both. What to do, what to do.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead


Just a reminder to all -- Lowes has the 2 cubic foot bags of their premium mulch on sale until June 5th -- 5 bags for $10.

I saw about 100 skids stacked up outside my local Lowes.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 07:23 AM (HTdUD)

60 These unrelenting dangerous leaks only prove the need for back channel communications; the front channel ones are all criminally leaked on the front page.

The entire Obama Regime was one long back channel to the Ayatollah.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 07:26 AM (Ndje9)

61 Heard Rush state that Washington DC was most surveiled zip code , well maybe in the US, but I am sure its Monico in the world. Past years I have seen there have been tests you can leave your keys in your Ferrari and no one will touch it, drop your wallet on the street some night and it will be there in the morning.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 07:26 AM (Ot7+c)

62 EDU>> Lowes garden center was pretty busy yesterday. I can drop some coin at that place.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 07:27 AM (Xr2/U)

63 Praying, Fen.

Posted by: lizabth at May 28, 2017 07:27 AM (CIDui)

64 All my hopes are left on Bottas's step to break up thse Ferraris, also hoping good things for Haas.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 07:29 AM (Ot7+c)

65 24 JFK had a back-channel with Russia.
__________________

So did his nasty, drunken, corrupt little brother Teddy.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 28, 2017 07:33 AM (riF5p)

66 10 Gee, aren't we all flabbergasted that Tillerson refuses to host a phony Ramadon celebration at the State Department? I fart in the critics general direction.
______________________

Good on him for saying "no" to that PC bull$hit.

Taxpayer money should not be spent on Islamic celebrations of any kind -- and especially not on government property.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 28, 2017 07:35 AM (riF5p)

67 Taxpayer money should not be spent on Islamic celebrations of any kind -- and especially not on government property.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 28, 2017 07:35 AM (riF5p)


You're giving former White House imam, Imam Barry, the sadz. You must be a deplorable h8er.

Posted by: RickZ at May 28, 2017 07:38 AM (5J6OM)

68 Good on him for saying "no" to that PC bull$hit.

It woulda been righteous if he would have had a barbecue featuring pork and local craft beer.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 07:40 AM (Xr2/U)

69 'the Paris crap is dead'

The only reason one man is deciding this is because it was an anti-Constitutional One-Man Treaty to begin with. Why? Because it was so bad that not even the squishy Senate would ever approve. It's just another way to transfer money and power from America.

Obama just poured another $500 million down the UN Climate Rathole as a parting gift to the Transnational Blob. Could your community have used those funds to address real problems?

Too bad. Obama doesn't believe in your community. He believes in the UN.

Did you get to vote for the UN?

That's $500 million that will never solve actual pollution. It will disappear down the maw of the Blob, never to be seen again, to be spent on mistresses at the French Riviera and on wishful thinking that it MIGHT lower temperatures by a fraction.

Of a fraction.

Of a fraction.

A century from now.

Maybe.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 07:42 AM (Ndje9)

70 Since no one knows what fresh hell this day will bring, would be ok for me to go ahead and denounce myself now for whatever I may say later?

Seems more efficient this way.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 28, 2017 07:42 AM (b8+C/)

71 Obama had a back channel for Reggie.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 07:44 AM (oVJmc)

72 Islam is the new darling of the Left, little do they know Islam wants Leftists dead as anyone else.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 07:46 AM (Ot7+c)

73 They said there has been a ramadon celebration in the WH for 12 years(?). Can you imagine if the annual Easter Egg hunt (secular) was changed to a real Easter celebration?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 07:47 AM (mpXpK)

74 .....I wanna fly like an eagle...

Posted by: redenzo at May 28, 2017 07:48 AM (5wSNN)

75 69 Obama just poured another $500 million down the UN Climate Rathole as a
parting gift to the Transnational Blob. Could your community have used
those funds to address real problems?
-------------------------------------------------------



I thought Trump got to those funds and froze them before they got sent. That didn't stop the original $500M he sent them back when that illegal agreement was first made.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 07:49 AM (mpXpK)

76 17 The latest global warming scam. Global warming in ancient times created so many new plants it caused the earth to cool. The stupid, it burns.


http://tinyurl.com/yap8xt3k
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:57 AM (mpXpK)



"Previous research from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the University of California-Irvine found plants use water more efficiently when exposed to higher concentrations of CO2, suggesting that droughts could be less severe.

Other research suggests that more CO2 increases plant growth, which would limit the impact of global warming. High CO2 levels cause plant life to thrive, particularly in arid regions where carbon emissions are literally causing deserts to bloom."

Terrible. Just terrible.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 07:50 AM (sdi6R)

77 "kicking of the Greatest Day of Racing."

No, yesterday was the greatest day in racing because I had the best time at our local Rallycross. Yea those F1 guys are fast but do they ever do it in the dirt?

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 07:52 AM (BO/km)

78 Alonso just called Jenson Button to wish him luck, Alonso is on row 2 in Indy

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 07:53 AM (Ot7+c)

79 They said there has been a ramadon celebration in the WH for 12 years(?).

I wouldn't take anything they said seriously, but I'd be willing to bet that there was a Ramadan celebration every year Barky was there. Of course there was no hue and cry about religion and gummint being mixed together from the juice box mafia.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 07:53 AM (Xr2/U)

80 65 24 JFK had a back-channel with Russia.
__________________

So did his nasty, drunken, corrupt little brother Teddy.

Since learning about JFK's, which has been known about for many decades, I guess I always figured ALL Presidents had a secret back channel to Russia, and other key nations as well. In certain delicate situations, each side has to have a way to say one thing publicly but reassure them privately. Teddy of course was different. Not POTUS but trying to sway an election.


Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 07:54 AM (ul9CR)

81 Watching the Monaco race. Those cars look huuuuuge. Like the length of a crew cab pickup.

Posted by: Bruce at May 28, 2017 07:58 AM (8ikIW)

82 We still have a Kmart here in Kansas City, along I-70 between Independence and the city. Also have a Sears at the mall in Independence. I'm keeping my ears open for when Sears closes. I honestly never had problems with merchandise I bought there so I will definitely be looking for some good deals.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:00 AM (CNHr1)

83 Beautiful day out there right now. Clear blue skies and 73F. Makes me want to hit the porch rocker. There will not be many of these days left before it gets stifling hot.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:00 AM (mpXpK)

84 75 Hope so, Vic.

Didn't he stop a payment to the PLO Crime Family, too?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 08:04 AM (Ndje9)

85 Would be very suprised if there is no safety car, also leary of leaving
F-1 Timing and scoring as seem to lose gap times late in race flipping between web sites.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 08:06 AM (Ot7+c)

86 The weather here has been great lately. Temperatures in the 60s and 70s, so windows open and no need for heating or air conditioning.

I got my yard work done yesterday, and will try to do some housecleaning today.

I can handle mowing and weed whacking, but I contacted a landscaping company to get an estimate for tree and shrub trimming. I'm also thinking about doing something with the shrub beds around the house in the front yard. Currently they're overgrown with weeds and the rotted remnants of railroad ties. I hit them with the weed whacker now and then but that's about it. So maybe have them get rid of the weeds and put down mulch.

All that is more than I want to tackle myself, particularly the tree trimming. Once the shrub beds are de-weeded and mulched, hopefully I will be able to keep on top of them and pull new weeds when they emerge. Right now they're out of control.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 08:08 AM (sdi6R)

87 Somehow I don't think on-line shopping is killing Sears/Kmart. I know that is the line I always read in the news. I live very close to a major shopping street in a suburb, and I just think once the perception they were failing was in the news, shoppers just stopped going. Home Depot and Loews killed the hardware/garden/appliance business for Sears. etc.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:08 AM (1ThGZ)

88 84
75 Hope so, Vic.



Didn't he stop a payment to the PLO Crime Family, too?





Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 08:04 AM (Ndje9)


Had not heard about that one.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:09 AM (mpXpK)

89 NC Lt Governor says that big business attacked their bathroom bill even though they agreed with it because they had no balls.

http://tinyurl.com/ycwlqnsh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


ISWYDT

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 08:09 AM (vRcUp)

90 Speaking of money, it's funny to hear all the same geniuses that gave the Housing Crash, $20 trillion Debt and no budgets for years all trash Pres. Trump's budget.

As if.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 08:09 AM (Ndje9)

91 87
Somehow I don't think on-line shopping is killing Sears/Kmart. I know
that is the line I always read in the news. I live very close to a major
shopping street in a suburb, and I just think once the perception they
were failing was in the news, shoppers just stopped going. Home Depot
and Loews killed the hardware/garden/appliance business for Sears. etc.


Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:08 AM (1ThGZ)

Sears used to have the best appliances, particularly refrigerators. I still have my original Sear refer I bought when I bought my house in 1981. It is out in the shed out back but it still works as far as I know. But their refers have severely degraded in reliability now. So there is more of a reason that there business is failing than just "perception".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:12 AM (mpXpK)

92 Local Gannett paper says we are in serious trouble because Trump is maybe dumping the Paris accord on GW.
The new French leader squeezed Trumps hand so hard you could see the white knuckles. (do reporters have that great eyes they can see that?) He is just showing he is only 39, and the future of Europe.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:13 AM (1ThGZ)

93 Home Depot and Loews killed the hardware/garden/appliance business for Sears. etc.

Posted by: Colin

You know what I used to absolutely hate about Sears? The check-out beg for SJW something. Or the nag to sign up for the credit card. I don't care how many dollars I can save on this purchase or next purchase or whatever - my payment gets to you ONE DAY late and your late charge eats up every cent I ever saved.

I came in because I need a part to fix something RIGHT NOW. Give me my change, damn it.

That's one of the great things about self check out. None of that bullshit.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 08:14 AM (HTdUD)

94 Other research suggests that more CO2 increases plant growth, which would limit the impact of global warming. High CO2 levels cause plant life to thrive, particularly in arid regions where carbon emissions are literally causing deserts to bloom."

Terrible. Just terrible.

Posted by: rickl


Homeostasis. Complex systems, like the body, or the Earth, have a tendency to compensate for changes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 08:14 AM (vRcUp)

95 92
Local Gannett paper says we are in serious trouble because Trump is maybe dumping the Paris accord on GW.
The
new French leader squeezed Trumps hand so hard you could see the white
knuckles. (do reporters have that great eyes they can see that?) He is
just showing he is only 39, and the future of Europe.


Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:13 AM (1ThGZ)

All newspaper chains or just PR organs for the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:15 AM (mpXpK)

96 Somehow I don't think on-line shopping is killing Sears/Kmart.

I don't know about the stores in your neck of the woods but whenever I had to go to a Kmart in mine, the parking lots were full of trash and the baskets were never collected. Then when you got inside, if you needed anyone to help you find something they were nowhere to be found or didn't know if you did find someone. Or they didn't speak English.

El Wallo Marto is on the same trajectory. Unfortunately.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 08:17 AM (Xr2/U)

97 Today is catch-up cleaning day at Casa de Monet. The first floor needs to be whipped into Better Homes and Garden picture shape for tomorrow's celebration of the youngest de Monet's high school graduation celebration.

90% chance of rain tomorrow while I'm doing the grilling thing.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 28, 2017 08:17 AM (JO9+V)

98 Read the incredibly fulsome puff piece on Skankles that Breitbart linked to at New York Magazine.

The upper left corner had a portrait type picture of her; immediately below was an ad for Fear of the Living Dead.

Was struck by the similarity and the unintentional irony.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 28, 2017 08:18 AM (DMUuz)

99 One other thing that I think has hurt Sears is eliminating their catalog sales. Especially the Christmas Book. Since the closet Sears store to me is 35 miles away it is a lot easier to drive a couple of miles over to Walmart. I can't remember the last time I was in a Sears store.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:18 AM (mpXpK)

100 Happy Birthday Wanda

Posted by: June at May 28, 2017 08:20 AM (NBHj5)

101 >>>Obama had a back channel for Reggie.

I was dating a white guy, but I thought that it might hurt my political career, so I dumped him for Reggie.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 28, 2017 08:20 AM (vRcUp)

102 Beautiful day out there right now. Clear blue skies and 73F. Makes me want to hit the porch rocker. There will not be many of these days left before it gets stifling hot.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


You need one of those big-ass fans that sits up off the ground. I remember them in 'jersey during the dog-days of August. You couldn't sit outside without them. They also blew the gnats, black flies, mosquito, and green head flies into the next county.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 08:23 AM (HTdUD)

103 Local Gannett paper says we are in serious trouble because Trump is maybe dumping the Paris accord on GW.
The new French leader squeezed Trumps hand so hard you could see the white knuckles. (do reporters have that great eyes they can see that?) He is just showing he is only 39, and the future of Europe.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:13 AM (1ThGZ)



The future of Europe will be in a burka and that pajama boi's head will be on the end of a pike.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 28, 2017 08:23 AM (auHtY)

104 I can't remember the last time I was in a Sears store.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:18 AM (mpXpK)

I did go and buy a replacement garage door opener last fall for a 20 year old Craftsman opener. I figured it would be similar and easier to install, it was. Of course its just made by Liftmaster. As all the appliances are made by White Industries as they have been for years.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:23 AM (1ThGZ)

105 Sears always had great tools and appliances. When I got out of the Corps and went to work as an A&P, I bought a Craftsman tool set. I still have it and they're just as serviceable today as they were when I bought them.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 08:24 AM (Xr2/U)

106
So Jared is now in the cross hairs for being Ivan's best buddy. Hopefully this pushes him and Princess Ivanka and their fashionably left views back to Manhattan. I doubt it but would like to see both of them along with Gary Cohn gone.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 28, 2017 08:25 AM (auHtY)

107 One other thing that I think has hurt Sears is eliminating their catalog sales. Especially the Christmas Book. Since the closet Sears store to me is 35 miles away it is a lot easier to drive a couple of miles over to Walmart. I can't remember the last time I was in a Sears store.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


They are a stupid company. With their history of catalogue sales, they could have transitioned smoothly into Internet sales (ala Amazon). But they had no vision.
My ex-BiL's father was a long time Sears employee, and had worked his way up to being the Store manager in a Sears anchor store in a shopping mall in Louisville. Very gregarious and outgoing guy, very well liked, knew his job, was actually very popular with other store owners/managers in that mall. Because they knew if the anchor stores were healthy, they would be successful.
In his early 60's, some big wheel at Sears told him, "I have just the guy in mind to replace you!"

What a way to treat a life time loyal employee. Imagine that sort of thinking repeated all over the country.

Sears has done a plethora of dumb things to kill themselves. Whatever happened to Montgomery Wards?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 28, 2017 08:25 AM (S6Pax)

108 Macron has a weird looking nose, in profile. He needs a nose job.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 08:26 AM (vRcUp)

109 Hell, Sears and all the other traditional Department Stores began their downhill slide, when they eliminated firearms sales from their Sporting Goods departments.

The nail in the coffin though, was when Craftsman hand tools started being "Made in China".

Was a time when the top line item in a Sears product line was labeled "Sears Best". And thirty or so years ago, that label actually meant something valid, in terms of quality and fitness of the product.

But the true origin of the decline of Sears. When you walked into the door, and no longer smelled the popcorn.

That, my friends, was the beginning of the end.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 08:26 AM (v5iqM)

110 102 You need one of those big-ass fans that sits up off
the ground. I remember them in 'jersey during the dog-days of August.
You couldn't sit outside without them. They also blew the gnats, black
flies, mosquito, and green head flies into the next county.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 28, 2017 08:23 AM (HTdUD)

I've got a fan that I take out there in the Summer.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 08:27 AM (mpXpK)

111 What a way to treat a life time loyal employee. Imagine that sort of thinking repeated all over the country.
Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 28, 2017 08:25 AM (S6Pax)

Unfortunately that is done in retail all over the country.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:28 AM (1ThGZ)

112 rickl.. I have a similar situation on the south side of my house. When we moved in the previous owners had 4 or 5 rose bushes. We decided to add 2 knock out rose bushes. Everything looked great for a few years. Now it's the worst part of our landscaping. One knock out has died, the other is dying and the whole area is being over run with vinca vine. I can't keep up.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:28 AM (CNHr1)

113 "Craftsman" is sexist. It should be Craftsperson. Seriously, who is craftier than I?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 08:31 AM (vRcUp)

114 I can tell you what isn't helping Sears' financial problems - and that's printing a 14 foot long receipt each time you make a purchase. Their paper supplies cost must be outrageous.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:31 AM (Sfs6o)

115 I read somewhere that the future of the remaining malls is in doubt because there simply aren't enough anchor stores left. All the major ones are closing stores not opening them. Some malls have compensated by moving in large fitness centers, but there aren't enough of those to solve the problem.

My own local Sears is attached to a Dead Mall. When the mall died, the anchors were allowed to stay open because they have their own separate entrances (IOW you don't have to enter the mall to shop there.) But since the mall is dead, the parking lot is a weed-strewn, crumbling mess and that Sears is a ghost town. I don't see how it's even still open. But it can't be for long.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:31 AM (ul9CR)

116 The list of fail retail stores is long...A friend and I made a list one day of the changes in the last 20 years on the shopping in suburbia. (cities don't count anymore) So much churn in retail, it just happens over the years, sometimes we just forget. About the only building still much the same near me is McD and Wendys.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:32 AM (1ThGZ)

117

Macron said his weird handshake with Trump was "a moment of truth"


Really little boy? What a weirdo

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:32 AM (jHJXx)

118 Local Gannett paper says we are in serious trouble because Trump is maybe dumping the Paris accord on GW.

The commie rags are hitting on all cylinders. Ours had this today: Lots of seniors love Donald Trump. So why doesn't he love them back?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 08:33 AM (Tyii7)

119 Didn't Sears sell the Craftsman name?

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:34 AM (1ThGZ)

120
Sears?

Gross.

Tools, yuck.
Paint, yuck.
Repair items? Throw them away.

I have my iPhone. Everything I need.

Posted by: Millenial Youth at May 28, 2017 08:34 AM (HTdUD)

121 Kissinger lived in the back channel

The IC seems to think it is a new, over arching branch of government to which all others are subservient

No longer a tool, it seeks to rule

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:34 AM (jHJXx)

122 Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:31 AM (ul9CR)
---------
Landmark Mall?

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:34 AM (Sfs6o)

123 Morning all

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:35 AM (SjImc)

124 Bossy.. same thing that's happening to Sears I would imagine. I know this is just anecdotal but many years ago, I want to say 1978,79 a huge mall was built out in the suburbs. JC Penny, Sears and The Jones Store were anchor stores. On the other side of the street was a huge strip mall and Wards was the anchor store. As the years went by the neighborhood got worse and worse. Wards was the first to go. Then eventually the whole mall closed. They tore it down about 2006 or 07. Barely 30 years later and it's just a big ass slab of pavement. Sad as hell. Use to be THE mall to go to.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:35 AM (CNHr1)

125 My washer, dryer, and refrigerator are all Sears Kenmore. I inherited them from my parents, and they're all from the late 80s or early 90s. Since I've lived here I've had two service calls for the dryer and one for the refrigerator. All were pretty inexpensive compared to buying new ones.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 08:35 AM (sdi6R)

126 My local K-Mart is a pigsty. Filthy, under-stocked, usually overpriced and staffed by absolute retards.

Our "super" Wal-Mart is actually not bad at all, grading on the Wal-Mart curve. It's very clean, well-stocked and most of the employees are actually pretty decent.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:35 AM (ul9CR)

127 Our Gannett Sunday newspaper (which I dropped) is mostly USAToday now. Even most of the ads have moved to mail delivery.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:36 AM (1ThGZ)

128 Macron said his weird handshake with Trump was "a moment of truth"


Really little boy? What a weirdo
Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:32 AM (jHJXx)

Really? I thought marrying a women 25 years older than you was that "moment of truth" and a revolting one to boot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:36 AM (SjImc)

129 Landmark Mall?

Summit Park Mall in Wheatfield, NY

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:36 AM (ul9CR)

130 I was in a WalMart Super store in NC a couple of weeks ago. It was actually a very nice store.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:37 AM (Sfs6o)

131 Yep Craftsman made great tools. Almost as good as Snapon for half the price. Many of my hand tools have had over 40 years of sometimes abusive treatment.

I haven't bought any Craftsman in a long time though as I have purchased or inherited almost everything I might need. I wonder though if Harbor Freight has contributed to their decline.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 08:37 AM (BO/km)

132 Use to be THE mall to go to.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:35 AM (CNHr1)

10 years from now, not sure there will be any "Malls" to go to...at least not the kind of malls we are used to. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:37 AM (SjImc)

133 As soon as I heard about all the racing happening today, I knew Skip was going to have a good day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2017 08:37 AM (EZebt)

134 Mama Macaroon taught me that a wet, limp handshake was a sign of tolerance and diversity.

Posted by: Le Macaroon at May 28, 2017 08:38 AM (Tyii7)

135 The Allman Brothers - "Will the Circle Be Unbroken?"


Recorded live, 1979


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbZfxval2pM






Posted by: grammie winger at May 28, 2017 08:38 AM (lwiT4)

136 Whatever happened to Montgomery Wards?

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 28, 2017 08:25 AM (S6Pax)




I haven't seen a Wards store in I can't remember when. I looked it up, all of the stores closed in 2001 but it is still an online retailer. News to me

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 28, 2017 08:38 AM (auHtY)

137

Macron will fall over with a gust of wind. Next Islamic unrest this summer, and he will be a tea light holding singing push over

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:38 AM (jHJXx)

138 We're going to a Wedding today..and my wife and 2 daughters are getting ready...LOL...telling at each other...the tension is high. It's nice being a boy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:38 AM (SjImc)

139 When Sears closed their tire center many years ago I did get a sweet, sweet deal on some Pirellis for my truck at the close-out sale.

Damn those were some nice tires. I was in line 45 minutes before they opened to make sure I got 'em.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:39 AM (ul9CR)

140 129 Landmark Mall?

Summit Park Mall in Wheatfield, NY
Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:36 AM (ul9CR)
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Sounds like the mall down the street from me - Landmark Mall in Alexandria VA. A very nice mall about 8 miles south of Washington, DC, and an absolute ghost town for years. They're finally tearing it down.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:40 AM (Sfs6o)

141

We just got a new very very high end mall in Houston. Channel, Tom Ford, Stella McCartney, Prada.

No regular stores at all. Nothing affordable

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:40 AM (jHJXx)

142 There is a YouTube channel of abandoned malls. An eyeopener, seeing rather new malls, empty. Many are in the midwest.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:40 AM (1ThGZ)

143 I hope Ivanka and Jared are feeling very hurt and confused by the hate from their peers. Before the election, they were darlings of society, moving like water through the elite circles. And all because of her daddy's name. Now they are pariah and they see their friends in secret. I hope they realize this is the true face of democrats.

Posted by: Abby at May 28, 2017 08:41 AM (HBU7W)

144 Our malls are ok

Jcpenny, sears, not so much. People buy that stuff online now. Target is suffering too. People shop online

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:41 AM (jHJXx)

145 We do still have a Sears here but it's stuck in a corner of a strip mall next to a PetSmart. The pet store is probable twice the size of the Sears store. Anyway I've never been that Sears since they move from the old mall and predict that it is not long for this world.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 08:42 AM (BO/km)

146 I have to drive past Lowes and HD to get to Sears, so I'd need a good reason.

The mall is not too bad, but I've been to the Farmer's Market in the parking lot more than I've been to the mall itself in the last couple years.

If we had a mall that was entertaining for the kids, I'd have been there plenty in hot or rainy weather. But there's just not that much there. The best mall is the outdoor outlet mall. With a carousel and good restaurants, a movie theater...

The main reason I have for going to the department stores is selection in clothing. They seem to have more than one of each size, unlike some other places.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 28, 2017 08:43 AM (wwL6Q)

147 We have two malls here in my town. Both outdoor malls and both are thriving. Go figure.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:43 AM (CNHr1)

148 I hope Ivanka and Jared are feeling very hurt and confused by the hate from their peers. Before the election, they were darlings of society, moving like water through the elite circles. And all because of her daddy's name. Now they are pariah and they see their friends in secret. I hope they realize this is the true face of democrats.
Posted by: Abby at May 28, 2017 08:41 AM (HBU7W)

Hopefully...most smart people would and do...but there are still that group of truly stupid conservatives like McSenile who still think they will love him for being a maverick?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:43 AM (SjImc)

149 I grabbed him by the mish, and now he's mine.

Posted by: Brigitte Macron at May 28, 2017 08:43 AM (vRcUp)

150 He is just showing he is only 39, and the future of Europe.

I remember when Sarkozy was the future of Europe.

This guy could pop like a soap bubble.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 08:44 AM (oVJmc)

151 People shop online
Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:41 AM (jHJXx)

Yup...I had to go to the Mall to buy a suit and shoes for this wedding and I was miserable...I am not sure if I hate crowds or just people, but I can't stand being in a Mall anymore

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:44 AM (SjImc)

152 Sears appliance repair is terrible. My triple door refrigerator was not working. still under warrantee. Called sears, they send a guy out, needs a new compressor. Have to wait for the part and wait a week for service person to come back out and install it. They used to be back out the next day with the part.
I will never buy another appliance from them.

Posted by: cicero skip at May 28, 2017 08:44 AM (3N/o1)

153 There's a mall near me that I remember when it was built in the 1970s. I used to go there all the time, but don't nowadays. At one end is an Acme supermarket, which is still doing well. The anchor store at the other end was a department store that changed hands numerous times. I don't remember them all. At one time it was Grant's. Eventually it became Wal-Mart, but it didn't last long. There's a much larger Wal-Mart not too far away.

A few years ago it was converted to some kind of indoor go-kart racing or something. I've never been in there.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 08:44 AM (sdi6R)

154 We do have a very successful mall that isn't going anywhere. In fact, it keeps expanding and expanding. But that's one of those Outlet Malls, a huge one, with big names like Saks and Macys and scores of others. People come from miles around and even from other states to shop that mall.

I'll hit it for a few certain stores that I've shopped for years, but in general, for a big famous Outlet Mall, I personally find it overpriced.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:44 AM (ul9CR)

155 I'm synical enough to think Vettel passing Raikkonen was planned all along.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 08:45 AM (Ot7+c)

156 "We're going to a Wedding today..and my wife and 2 daughters are getting ready...LOL...telling at each other...the tension is high. It's nice being a boy"

Weddings are easy for men. Just put on the suit and go. I actually don't mind going to one if it's someone I like and there will be food.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 08:45 AM (BO/km)

157 I think the general store model is in trouble. You can get all that on amazon. You don't need penny's or sears for cute cheap clothes. I like Ken,ore, but I can get appliances from Lowes and Home Depot. I avoid going to the mall whenever I can.

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:45 AM (jHJXx)

158 We have two malls here in my town. Both outdoor malls and both are thriving. Go figure.
Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:43 AM (CNHr1)

Well they might be crowded, but all surveys show that sales are way down and dropping...And many of those people are returning things they bought on line

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:46 AM (SjImc)

159 I was at Lowes yesterday too. Very busy had sales on mulch and charcoal going on. Bought a pallet of mulch and got my gainzz in my front yard.

Posted by: Big V at May 28, 2017 08:46 AM (NX0K0)

160 I wanted to start a company Seers Roebuck, but I foretold that it would go out of business anyway.

Posted by: Nostradamus at May 28, 2017 08:47 AM (vRcUp)

161 there will be food.
Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 08:45 AM (BO/km)

Sorry I missed most of what you said except the last part. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:47 AM (SjImc)

162 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has declined to host an event to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, ending a bipartisan tradition of marking the occasion for nearly 20 years, Reuters has revealed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:48 AM (SjImc)

163 97 Today is catch-up cleaning day at Casa de Monet. The first floor needs to be whipped into Better Homes and Garden picture shape for tomorrow's celebration of the youngest de Monet's high school graduation celebration.

===

Congratulations to all of the de Monets!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2017 08:49 AM (EZebt)

164 There are a couple of named outlet mall brands - Prime and something else - that don't seem very outlety to me at all. The only discounted merchandise appearing to be the retarded shit that wouldn't sell in stores - size 18 orange sneakers, sweatshirts with one arm - that sort of thing.

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:49 AM (Sfs6o)

165 Nevergiveup.. well one of the stores is JC Penny and yeah we all know they are in trouble. But seriously this place keeps expanding and adding new stores all the time. The two malls are literally across 50 highway from each other and the new one just built a Dick's when there was already one in the other mall (?)

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:49 AM (CNHr1)

166 Our Gannett Sunday newspaper (which I dropped) is mostly USAToday now. Even most of the ads have moved to mail delivery.
Posted by: Colin
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Gannett acquired a very large number of local papers, and destroyed them. I'll bet that not a single one of them has a local publisher. Ours is from Hawaii, and absolutely clueless about western NC, let alone local culture.

In every one of these cases, local opinion and influence has been lost...worse...suborned to Gannett's left-leaning philosophy.

Alabama

Montgomery Advertiser

Arizona

The Arizona Republic, Phoenix
Tucson Citizen

Arkansas

The Baxter Bulletin

California

Redding Record Searchlight
The Desert Sun, Palm Springs
The Salinas Californian
Tulare Advance-Register
Ventura County Star
Visalia Times-Delta

Colorado

Fort Collins Coloradoan

Delaware

The News Journal, Wilmington

Florida

Florida Today, Brevard County
Fort Myers News-Press
Naples Daily News
Pensacola News Journal
Tallahassee Democrat
Treasure Coast Newspapers
The Stuart News, Stuart
Indian River Press Journal, Vero Beach
The St. Lucie News-Tribune, Fort Pierce
FSView & Florida Flambeau
Central Florida Future
Seminole Chronicle
Pensacola News Journal

Guam

Pacific Daily News, Hagatna

Indiana

The Indianapolis Star
Journal and Courier, Lafayette
The Star Press, Muncie
Palladium-Item, Richmond
Evansville Courier & Press

Iowa

The Des Moines Register
Iowa City Press-Citizen

Kentucky

The Courier-Journal, Louisville
The Gleaner, Henderson

Louisiana

The Town Talk, Alexandria
The Daily Advertiser, Lafayette
The News-Star, Monroe
Daily World, Opelousas
The Times, Shreveport

Maryland

The Daily Times, Salisbury

Michigan

Battle Creek Enquirer
Detroit Free Press
Lansing State Journal
Times Herald, Port Huron

Minnesota

St. Cloud Times

Mississippi

Hattiesburg American
The Clarion-Ledger

Missouri

Springfield News-Leader, Springfield

Montana

Great Falls Tribune

Nevada

Reno Gazette-Journal

New Jersey

Asbury Park Press
Courier-News, Bridgewater
The Courier-Post, Cherry Hill
Home News Tribune, East Brunswick
Daily Record, Morristown
The Daily Journal, Vineland
Ocean County Observer, Toms River
Suburban Trends, Butler
The Record (Bergen County), Hackensack

New York

Press & Sun-Bulletin, Binghamton
Star-Gazette, Elmira
The Ithaca Journal
Poughkeepsie Journal
Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester (original flagship newspaper)
The Journal News, Westchester County

North Carolina

Asheville Citizen-Times

Ohio

Newspaper Network of Central Ohio
Telegraph-Forum, Bucyrus
Chillicothe Gazette
The Cincinnati Enquirer
Coshocton Tribune
The News-Messenger, Fremont
Lancaster Eagle-Gazette
Mansfield News Journal, Mansfield
The Marion Star
The Advocate (Newark), Newark
News Herald, Port Clinton
Times Recorder, Zanesville

Oregon

Statesman Journal, Salem

Pennsylvania

Lebanon Daily News
Public Opinion
York Daily Record

South Carolina

The Anderson Independent-Mail
The Greenville News
Link (magazine)

South Dakota

Argus Leader, Sioux Falls

Tennessee

The Commercial Appeal, Memphis
The Daily News Journal, Murfreesboro
The Jackson Sun
The Knoxville News-Sentinel
The Leaf-Chronicle, Clarksville
The Tennessean, Nashville

Texas

Corpus Christi Caller Times
San Angelo Standard-Times
Times Record News, Wichita Falls
The Abilene Reporter-News

Utah

The Spectrum, St. George

Vermont

The Burlington Free Press

Virginia

The News Leader, Staunton

Washington

Kitsap Sun, Bremerton

Wisconsin

Door County Advocate
The Post-Crescent, Appleton
The Reporter, Fond du Lac
Green Bay Press-Gazette
Herald Times Reporter, Manitowoc
Marshfield News-Herald
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Oshkosh Northwestern, Oshkosh
Stevens Point Journal
The Sheboygan Press
Wausau Daily Herald
Wisconsin Rapids Daily Tribune, Wisconsin Rapids




Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 28, 2017 08:50 AM (ZO497)

167 Must be a thrill to be able to squeeze the President of the Untied States until he squirms...While the rest of the European leader quietly snicker. Merkel was probably especially pleased.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:50 AM (1ThGZ)

168 Clothing is something I still prefer to buy in a brick-n-mortar.

Clothing sizes are all BS, you have to try stuff on. Or I do, anyway. I've had terrible luck with buying clothing online.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:50 AM (ul9CR)

169 162 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has declined to host an event to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, ending a bipartisan tradition of marking the occasion for nearly 20 years, Reuters has revealed.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:48 AM (SjImc)


Bush 43 started that, didn't he? Because Islam is a Religion of Peace (tm).

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 08:50 AM (sdi6R)

170 What is the difference between an outdoor mall and a shopping center?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 28, 2017 08:50 AM (LTHVh)

171 For the second day in a row, Pope Francis has expressed his solidarity with Egypts Coptic Christians following an attack on a bus carrying Coptic pilgrims to a remote desert monastery.

Yeah and? Maybe you should also stop kissing up to Radical Islam and call a Spade a Spade.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:51 AM (SjImc)

172 sweatshirts with one arm - that sort of thing.

where is that store sounds perfect.

Posted by: rick allen at May 28, 2017 08:51 AM (3N/o1)

173 I think more affordable store have such fierce completion and Walmart is a pretty big player

The new Walmart by me is nicer than target. You go in and it's like the UN. For people with little income, the place is heaven. I get shirts and studs there all the time

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:51 AM (jHJXx)

174 What is the difference between an outdoor mall and a shopping center?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 28, 2017 08:50 AM (LTHVh)

A roof

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:52 AM (SjImc)

175 I absolutely hate shopping, especially for clothes and shoes. I don't see how you can buy shoes without trying them on. If I find the brand/size that fits then I'll buy them online.

Usually cheaper and with Prime or Walmart you can get them in two days anyway.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 28, 2017 08:52 AM (b8+C/)

176 I wish Trump would've cock punched Macron with his other hand

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:52 AM (jHJXx)

177 I've had terrible luck with buying clothing online.

Yep. Half the time the sizes for men appear to have been patterned for the Lollipop Guild.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 08:52 AM (Tyii7)

178 The only discounted merchandise appearing to be the retarded shit that wouldn't sell in stores - size 18 orange sneakers, sweatshirts with one arm - that sort of thing.
Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:49 AM (Sfs6o)

See... this is what I don't get about those outlet malls. You are absolutely correct. I went in a Skechers at an outlet mall here and the cheapest pair of slip on sneakers were $60!!! Shit, I can go to Kohl's use my 30% coupon and get them for around $45 including tax.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 28, 2017 08:52 AM (CNHr1)

179 Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:49 AM (Sfs6o)

Yep, that's pretty much the case.

There are some good ones. There's a huge footwear outlet that's been there forever with terrific, sometimes unbelievable prices on name brand footwear. And if I have the time, Marshall's almost always yields some treasures. But that's an old-school, dig-thru-the-racks kind of outlet. You need the time to dig.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:53 AM (ul9CR)

180 But the true origin of the decline of Sears. When you walked into the door, and no longer smelled the popcorn.

That, my friends, was the beginning of the end.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

===

*gets off Jim's lawn*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2017 08:53 AM (EZebt)

181 Stuff not studs. I do not get studs at Walmart. Yikes

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:53 AM (jHJXx)

182 ...but there are still that group of truly stupid conservatives like McSenile who still think they will love him for being a maverick?

I think part of what makes McShitty so shitty is that he knows the only reason anyone pays any attention to him is because he can be reliably counted on to back stab his party. He is irrelevant and inconsequential with regard to getting anything constructive accomplished. He's just a bitter old man making others bitter so he can feel good about accomplishing something.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 08:53 AM (Xr2/U)

183 At least the USPS is getting some benefit for the loss of newspaper advertising, since around here, most of the ads that were in the paper come by mailman now.

Posted by: Colin at May 28, 2017 08:54 AM (1ThGZ)

184 I hope Ivanka and Jared are feeling very hurt and confused by the hate from their peers. Before the election, they were darlings of society, moving like water through the elite circles. And all because of her daddy's name. Now they are pariah and they see their friends in secret. I hope they realize this is the true face of democrats.

Posted by: Abby at May 28, 2017 08:41 AM (HBU7W)


After all of the hate flung at Ivanka and companies not carrying her products any more because she's Hitler's daughter and now Jared going through the meat grinder you'd think it might wake them up. But I doubt it. I really wish they'd get lost

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 28, 2017 08:54 AM (auHtY)

185 I've bought all my clothes from L.L. Bean for about 20 years. First from the catalog and now online. They're very good about returns and exchanges. I keep track of the sizes I order. When a pair of chinos wears out, I just look up what I ordered last time and order it again.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 08:55 AM (sdi6R)

186 Stuff not studs. I do not get studs at Walmart. Yikes

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:53 AM (jHJXx)



Barry O: Where do you get studs at? Asking for a friend...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 28, 2017 08:55 AM (auHtY)

187 I once played a Craftsman 1/2" drive ratchet next to an Easco brand of the same size.

They both came from the same mold.
The casting irregularities in the unpolished web of each were identical.

And that was at least twenty years ago.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 28, 2017 08:55 AM (J+eG2)

188 played=laid

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 28, 2017 08:56 AM (J+eG2)

189 Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 08:55 AM (sdi6R)
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*LLB fistbump*

Wonder what will happen to Lands End when Sears goes tits up?

Posted by: Weasel at May 28, 2017 08:56 AM (Sfs6o)

190 Yup...I had to go to the Mall to buy a suit and shoes for this wedding and I was miserable...I am not sure if I hate crowds or just people, but I can't stand being in a Mall anymore

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:44 AM (SjImc)

You're not alone there. I remember when malls used to have all kinds of interesting and varied merchandise. It was a rare trip that I didn't come back with at least 3 books and a video game, and stop by the food court on the way out for some ultra-thin pizza or Chinese. Now they're pretty much nothing but clothing stores for rich tweens. The only reason I even go to the local one anymore is for the shoe outlet, and that'll probably stop if they ever quit carrying my shoe.

Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at May 28, 2017 08:56 AM (X52ZZ)

191 The malls that are succeeding are the ones that are offering entertainment ....restuarants n entertainment mixed with shopping. In socal they are doing fine.

...and the leaks, the leaks, the leaks...im tired of hearing about it. Have they ever heard of a polygraph?

Posted by: E.T. at May 28, 2017 08:57 AM (P1GJy)

192 Mike...oh my!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (J+eG2)

193 Sears was the first Amazon - their catalog hurt the local retail general stores and specialists of the day.

Posted by: Jean at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (9TU00)

194 "It was a rare trip that I didn't come back with at least 3 books and a video game, and stop by the food court on the way out for some ultra-thin pizza or Chinese. "

You forgot the cool blacklight poster from Spencer's.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (BO/km)

195 I recently bought an oil lamp online. A Kirkland, which is an old and very respected brand. Right out of the box, the mechanism that raises and lowers the wick was broken, rendering the lamp useless. Now I have to go through the hassle of returning it.

If I had bought it in a store I guarantee I would have checked that mechanism before purchasing it. Online shopping is very hit or miss with me.

Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (ul9CR)

196 Congratulations to all of the de Monets!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2017 08:49 AM (EZebt)

Thanks! The HS graduate is the youngest of four so she is making everyone else feel olderish. Exactly two score years ago I was where she is now. Hope she makes better, wiser choices.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (JO9+V)

197

I think most of the leaks are coming from the FBI.


They need to take a blow torch to that

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (jHJXx)

198 I hope Ivanka and Jared are feeling very hurt and confused by the hate from their peers. Before the election, they were darlings of society, moving like water through the elite circles. And all because of her daddy's name. Now they are pariah and they see their friends in secret. I hope they realize this is the true face of democrats.
Posted by: Abby at May 28, 2017 08:41 AM (HBU7W)

Hopefully...most smart people would and do...but there are still that group of truly stupid conservatives like McSenile who still think they will love him for being a maverick?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:43 AM (SjImc)



Well, as always among the institutional Left (Nazis, Commies)-

children gain Ultra-Super-Mega-Double Plus Good
Leftard Virtue Points for betraying their parents.

They could regain they're position overnight and more with a simple betrayal of Trump.

I suppose it depends on whether or not they can logically analyze the fact that Leftist positions require compulsion of and destruction of "the other".

And positions of the Right simply require you to leave other people alone and enjoy the fruits of freedom.

Who knows what's in their mind and them living in New York certainly doesn't help.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (9q7Dl)

199 .and the leaks, the leaks, the leaks...im tired of hearing about it. Have they ever heard of a polygraph?

Water boarding sounds better

Posted by: cicero skip at May 28, 2017 08:59 AM (3N/o1)

200 nood book

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 28, 2017 08:59 AM (WcAaY)

201 138 We're going to a Wedding today..and my wife and 2 daughters are getting ready...LOL...telling at each other...the tension is high. It's nice being a boy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 08:38 AM (SjImc)

===

Bet you're looking forward to that car ride.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2017 08:59 AM (EZebt)

202 Turkeys military killed 13 members of the militant Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) in air strikes in northern Iraq on Sunday, the military said in a statement.

???

THIS is bat shit crazy, we are letting our "NATO" "Allie" kill our Kurdish Allies.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (SjImc)

203 You forgot the cool blacklight poster from Spencer's.

...and the whoopee fart cushion.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 28, 2017 09:00 AM (Tyii7)

204
There are some malls in Houston I would never go in, and never at night. Packs of feral youth clogging the halls, yelling and generally being a nuisance. Esp on weekend nights

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 09:01 AM (jHJXx)

205 Bet you're looking forward to that car ride.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 28, 2017 08:59 AM (EZebt)

Thank G-D it's a short ride

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2017 09:01 AM (SjImc)

206 How to stop the leaks ... resurrect James Jesus Angleton ... fire everyone even remotely connected to the leaks. Put some retired Marine Gen in charge and clear the swamp with napalm.

Posted by: Jean at May 28, 2017 09:01 AM (9TU00)

207 197




I think most of the leaks are coming from the FBI.





They need to take a blow torch to that

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 08:58 AM (jHJXx)



See the link above at the top of the thread. They have caught three of them, all Obama hold-overs. Expect them to be fired soon.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

208 I think most of the leaks are coming from the FBI.


They need to take a blow torch to that
Posted by: ThunderB

Starting with McCabe

Posted by: Jean at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (9TU00)

209 182 ...but there are still that group of truly stupid conservatives like McSenile who still think they will love him for being a maverick?

I think part of what makes McShitty so shitty is that he knows the only reason anyone pays any attention to him is because he can be reliably counted on to back stab his party. He is irrelevant and inconsequential with regard to getting anything constructive accomplished. He's just a bitter old man making others bitter so he can feel good about accomplishing something.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 28, 2017 08:53 AM (Xr2/U)



Yeah, he's the Republican's Hillary!.

Except, and here's an actual compliment for the Horrible Old Bag(TM),

she would never betray her party and continues to work for it's agenda,

even as she whines and seethes.


McCain? Pure dickweed.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2017 09:02 AM (9q7Dl)

210 PKK are not our allies. They ill and kidnap us too. They are no shit communists.

Turkey kills all Kurdish groups, and claims they are all PKK.

PKK has been engaging in terrorism in Turkey on the regular since the 80s, and with increasing frequency and severity in the last two years.

But northern Iraq is where the oil fields are, and its more or less been independent Kurdistan since the Gulf War

Killing PKK is ok in my book. They kill us. But I doubt Turkey killed PKK. I bet they are making a play for the oil fields of northern Iraq. They would love that

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (jHJXx)

211 Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has declined to host an event to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, ending a bipartisan tradition of marking the occasion for nearly 20 years, Reuters has revealed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup


Seriously, what would have happened if we nuked the Kabaa right after 9/11? Maybe it would have spurred a backlash by Muslims in western countries, to the point where they would all have to be removed. It would be nice to have gotten that over with back in 2001.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (vRcUp)

212 fen, prayers going up that God will send you wisdom and patience.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (11H2y)

213 If Turkey takes the oil fields of northern Iraq, who will stop them?

Iraq? Syria? Iran? Us? Seriously. I don't think anyone would

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (jHJXx)

214 sweatshirts with one arm - that sort of thing.

where is that store sounds perfect.


Yes, where is this store?!?

Posted by: Michelle Fields at May 28, 2017 09:09 AM (oVJmc)

215 it's not enough for leakers to be fired. they have to lose their pensions and benefits and go to jail.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 09:09 AM (11H2y)

216

Prayers for you Fen

Posted by: ThunderB at May 28, 2017 09:10 AM (jHJXx)

217 The Montgomery Ward website is owned by the same people who own The Swiss Colony. There's no connection to the original store.

The nearest mall from my town seems to be doing well, but it seems to be the exception.

I stopped in to a KMart in Clinton, OK, on a trip last summer. It was just like the other stores the Horde has described this morning.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 09:11 AM (rJUlF)

218 Crash at Monico, car in bad position for driver, no word on driver yet.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:12 AM (Ot7+c)

219 215
it's not enough for leakers to be fired. they have to lose their pensions and benefits and go to jail.

Posted by: vivi at May 28, 2017 09:09 AM (11H2y)

That article I linked above said they are likely to be prosecuted too because they leaked classified info.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

220 "All were pretty inexpensive compared to buying new ones." Posted by: rickl

"They" say the much older frigs (like over 15 years old) use so much more electricity that is "cost effective" to buy a new one.

I had one delivered a few years ago from some online seller, which saved me a little, but still like $850 iirc. Not sure if I'm really saving that much on electricity, but the interior lights are nicer.

My water heater is probably 25 years old and I've looked at those with their own heat pump, but haven't figured out if that is worth it. I'm rural so my electricity is higher at $0.11/kwh. But they meter my heat pump heat/AC at a lower rate.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 09:13 AM (yKkG7)

221 211
Seriously, what would have happened if we nuked the Kabaa right after 9/11? Maybe it would have spurred a backlash by Muslims in western countries, to the point where they would all have to be removed. It would be nice to have gotten that over with back in 2001.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 28, 2017 09:05 AM (vRcUp)


Yep, that's what I would have done. Like pulling off a Band-Aid. Instead we allowed the would to fester.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:14 AM (sdi6R)

222 The wife is watching an old cooking show from the 1950s on RetroTV.

She's cooking sweet and sour beef tongue on a bed of spinach. With sour cream. And sauteed mushrooms.

I'm just glad this show is in black and white.

Ick.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 28, 2017 09:16 AM (oVJmc)

223 Crash at Monico, car in bad position for driver, no word on driver yet.
---
Driver says he's good

He probably benefitted from that being a fairly slow turn.

I'm kind of amazed an F1 car can sit on it's side like that given the way the wheel assemblies come to pieces in nearly any kind of impact.

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 28, 2017 09:19 AM (3Liv/)

224 The car was flipped up by another, amazing it stayed where it did.The lower speed probably made that happen and saved driver . At least he didn't have to go swimming which happened twice, once in a race and once in movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:23 AM (Ot7+c)

225 220
"They" say the much older frigs (like over 15 years old) use so much more electricity that is "cost effective" to buy a new one.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 09:13 AM (yKkG7)


I'm sure that's true about saving electricity, but if the new ones only last 10 years or so I'm not so sure that I would save money when all is said and done.

Maybe 5-10 years ago I had to call a repairman for my refrigerator. It turned out to be a simple repair, a voltage regulator or something like that. The repairman said that as long as the compressor was still working, he'd keep it. He said the old compressors were better made.

My water heater was about 23-24 years old when I had it replaced last year. The large puddle of water on the laundry room floor was a sign that something was amiss.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (sdi6R)

226 225 My water heater was about 23-24 years old when I had
it replaced last year. The large puddle of water on the laundry room
floor was a sign that something was amiss.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:26 AM (sdi6R)

The most I have ever gotten out of a water heater is about 15 years. And I had to replace the heating elements in it twice. I think the water here has something to do with that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

227 226
The most I have ever gotten out of a water heater is about 15 years. And I had to replace the heating elements in it twice. I think the water here has something to do with that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)


It probably does. I have fairly hard water here. It leaves scale on the faucets and sinks, but it's not so bad that I have to use a water softener.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:33 AM (sdi6R)

228 All newspaper chains or just PR organs for the Democrat Party.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Vic, I've come to believe that it is the DNC that is an appendage of the MFM. Seriously.

Also, check out the new Brad Pitt Netflix offering called War Machine. They take some surprisingly tough shots at Fredo Dogeater.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 28, 2017 09:34 AM (Xluzf)

229 Good f'ing riddance, you Euroelitist cow.

https://tinyurl.com/y7yjfwe7

It is indeed time for realignment. I'd like to see Trump invite the Polish prime minister to the WH soon.

Posted by: phineas gage at May 28, 2017 09:35 AM (XsVWn)

230 Slabberment: It's that feeling you get when you patiently post a thoughtful and insightful reply to Vic and then realize you been enstompened by the Book Thread.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 28, 2017 09:38 AM (Xluzf)

231 Congratulations to Haas on double points

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:38 AM (Ot7+c)

232 Vic I go through water heaters within two years, getting good at replacing my own.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (Ot7+c)

233 Two years??? Do you have sulphuric acid in your water?

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2017 09:41 AM (sdi6R)

234 232
Vic I go through water heaters within two years, getting good at replacing my own.

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 09:39 AM (Ot7+c)

If you are only getting 2 years out of a water heater you are buying a bad brand. See if you can find an A.O. Smith brand. They are made just down the road from me.
And I had always replaced my own, but I can no longer lift them on and off the truck.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:43 AM (mpXpK)

235 My water heater could no doubt use new elements at least, but I haven't tackled that project. The well water here is very hard, but it's my grandparents old place and it still has the original aluminum roof from the late 40's, with a catchment system and a probably 1500 gallon cistern.

I replumbed it to try to use the soft rain water for hot water, but the water wouldn't come through the pipe, so that's another project for my list. That is a multiple year wait list it seems. lol

Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 09:45 AM (yKkG7)

236 235
My water heater could no doubt use new elements at least, but I haven't
tackled that project. The well water here is very hard, but it's my
grandparents old place and it still has the original aluminum roof from
the late 40's, with a catchment system and a probably 1500 gallon
cistern.

I replumbed it to try to use the soft rain water for
hot water, but the water wouldn't come through the pipe, so that's
another project for my list. That is a multiple year wait list it seems.
lol


Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 09:45 AM (yKkG7)

If it still heats the water you don't need to replace them. Usually the one on the top goes out first and then it takes longer to recover. The heating elements are like an on/off switch. They either work fine or not at all.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 09:50 AM (mpXpK)

237 Oh yeah, what the hell would Vic know about heating water?
"Heh."

O O O one cannot wait to hear auld Kimmie discuss team orders.
Mister Excitement is looking a little...intense...up there.
Because beneath every Finn? Is a shark.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (H5rtT)

238 237
Oh yeah, what the hell would Vic know about heating water?
"Heh."

Posted by: Stringer Davis at May 28, 2017 09:56 AM (H5rtT)


Oh yeah, I used to operate a yuuuge hot water heater.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:00 AM (mpXpK)

239 " The heating elements are like an on/off switch. They either work fine or not at all. Posted by: Vic

OK .. thx. well it still makes hot water, but it does seem slow to recover, so I should check the top one. I put a blanket on it when I bought the place 12 years ago and haven't checked it since.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 10:08 AM (yKkG7)

240 239 OK .. thx. well it still makes hot water, but it
does seem slow to recover, so I should check the top one. I put a
blanket on it when I bought the place 12 years ago and haven't checked
it since.


Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 10:08 AM (yKkG7)

If it is the top one you do not have to drain it all the way. However, you may want to because if you got to go to all that trouble go ahead and replace both. The elements are cheap, but changing them is an aggravation because you have to isolate the heater, drain it, and disconnect the thermostats. If the top one is out, the bottom probably hasn't got long to go. When you pull the element it will be obvious if it is out. The element will be burned out with a gap in it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:15 AM (mpXpK)

241 Oh, BTW you will need a special type of socket to remove the element.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 10:17 AM (mpXpK)

242 excellent advice ... thx Vic.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 28, 2017 10:23 AM (yKkG7)

243 Dead and Company had a nice tour opener. Knocking on Heaven's Door tribute to Gregg

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at May 28, 2017 10:30 AM (6leiI)

244
Criminy it's almost June already.

0nly 23 days left till the first day of summer (longest day of the year).

Posted by: YIKES! at May 28, 2017 12:11 PM (t6XCL)

245 Indy 500 in parade laps, should be on your ABC affiliate.

Posted by: Methos, back to Let It Burn at May 28, 2017 12:13 PM (3Liv/)

Overnight Open Thread (27 May 2017)

Do enjoy this weekend but do take time to remember why we have this long holiday weekend to begin with.


Safe Spaces

'Marie Claire': Men aren't allowed to criticize 'safe spaces'. Safe spaces are for losers who can't handle free speech. Ooops. I might've triggered Jessica Valenti. Deal with it Jessica.

Leaks

You know, with all these leaks and some of the latest ones sounding incredibly stupid, I'm starting to think that these are part of an effort to find who is leaking material. It is even more odd to break this story at 5PM on a Friday before a holiday weekend. Most people will be out and busy all weekend and not really pay attention to the news. WaPo has had this info since December so it really is weird that they published it when they did unless they just got some corroborating info that enabled them to publish. That's not clear in the article but it would be funny if the corroborating info was fake meant to trace leakers. Of note, the NYT has now published their article and it has some differences. Sort of like what you would do when trying to find leakers. Put different details in different reports, etc. and then see what info goes where. As to the actual allegations in the latest leak, here's some good analysis from WarNewsUpdate's Editor:

The more that I think about this Washington Post exclusive .... the more I realise that it has a lot of holes in it. One .... the Russians would never permit such a communications link. Two .... Michael Flynn who was present at the meeting would know that they would never permit it. Three .... what's the point of having a secret communications channel via through the Russian embassy to the Kremlin .... where it would not be secret at all. Four .... President Trump is the President .... he can do anything he wants with the executive branch .... including having his own direct line to the Kremlin should he (and Putin) want to. But I digress .... what the Trump administration wanted (and I am sure the Kremlin wanted it too) was a private back-channel .... and for those who may not know .... this is how it works. If the Trump administration wanted Putin to know something independent from normal diplomatic channels .... it will be done by having someone President Trump trusts telling someone that President Putin trusts in person (that Russian official will be living in the U.S. .... probably near Washington DC). That person .... once the message has been received .... will then be taking the first flight to Moscow.

Sadly, this latest leak helps the Russians. If true, they just revealed to them that we were able to monitor Kislyak's private comms. Related: The Kremlin seems to have bet big on the willingness of U.S. intelligence agencies to leak.

Eagle Cam

Cord Cutting

I really need to do this. US TV subscribers are ditching cable and satellite faster than ever.

Unprofessional Intercepts

Russian fighter intercepted, then barrel rolled atop a KC-10 flying over Syria. Fighter jocks being fighter jocks I guess.

Cat Video

Health

24 health 'facts' that are actually completely wrong.

Paris Climate Deal

Well this sounds promising. Trump tells confidants U.S. will quit Paris climate deal.

Cat Video

Tonight's ONT brought to you by cats that are ruining their owners lives:

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1 This is dedicated to Basement Cat.

You're First In Our Hearts.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 09:56 PM (6gk0M)

2 rd!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 09:56 PM (e9G8E)

3 Slap wins again!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (NT3RT)

4 nd!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (e9G8E)

5
Don't count!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (4DCSq)

6 Thanks so much, CDR-M!

That eagle cam is fantastic!!

Baby Sister Update follows.

Posted by: ibguy at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (c5dWW)

7 Baby Sister Update

Eventful day today: took Joyce on picnic lunch at local state park (beautiful!), but she ended up giving it back. Not sure what caused this: could have been heat, could have been new chemo (they upped her dosage), some combination of these, or something else entirely.

Got her back home and into bed for a much needed nap, and headed back to the hotel for our own quiet time.

Went back for dinner: she was rested and showered - feeling *much*'better

Ate a decent meal, then shmoozed a bit, then off to bed. We said our goodbyes (return home tomorrow) and parted.

Impressions this trip: there's no question that she's doing better cognitively, and mostly physically (the blood clots are a step backwards, but not insurmountable). I do wish Hubby would be more gentle with her, but there's very little can say in that regard. I'm sure we'll (or at least I'll) be back this summer.

Please pray for renewed strength and healing.

[To my fellow, beloved Hordelings, thank you all in advance for your prayers and well-wishes for my sister and our family.]

Also: I'm checking out early tonight - early flight out. Be well, Horde!

Posted by: ibguy at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (c5dWW)

8 God bless those who have made the Ultimate Sacrifice.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2017 10:00 PM (tHwdc)

9 Geez, the media said Trump was going to "evolve" on the Paris thing. I think that means cave.
They'll never learn.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 27, 2017 10:00 PM (qJhUV)

10 Top 500. And Svengoolie is on with an Abbott and Costello movie.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 27, 2017 10:02 PM (8iiMU)

11 ATT internet sucks

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 10:02 PM (Xr2/U)

12 So I take it Jessica Valenti wasn't the model for Fearless Girl?

Posted by: tu3031 at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM (qJhUV)

13 Test.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM (VdICR)

14 Canadian Woman looking to adopted by an American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsUTS5COsc

Any morons willing?

Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:11 PM (N4gtY)

15 Cats suddenly discovering gravity around six months is a thing.

It's really, really a thing.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 27, 2017 10:13 PM (3Vlkn)

16 Nigel Farage has such a fucking cool accent.

He should do a cameo as a villain (ideally in a Bind flick), just to piss libtards off royally.

--and as Greg just said, he's apparently a FNC contributor now, so I look forward to more of him on screen.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:13 PM (GsAUU)

17 @ 2:11 in the "Clueless cats" video, my cat Alice reached over and tapped on the computer monitor, right when the cat in the video fell over. She looked at me with a "Did I do that?!" look on her face. hahahahah...

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 10:13 PM (w+Jhj)

18 There is nothing not good about eagle cams.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:14 PM (GsAUU)

19 Just saw an amusing "trailer". It had the audio from the first Justice League trailer, with Ben Afflec delivering his lines. But it had shots of literally everyone who has ever played live-action Batman on both TV and the big screen.

They had an out of costume George Clooney delivering the Flash's lines from that trailer.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 10:14 PM (deapv)

20 Thought running through that hanging cat's head:

"You moron!! I'm hanging on for dear life and you're taking a picture of me in my distress!!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (eMKNe)

21 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (eMKNe)

22 14 X-ray

I'd do it in a heartbeat, but .. my wife would be a tad upset. So I'll pass.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (u82oZ)

23 Also: I'm checking out early tonight - early flight out. Be well, Horde!
Posted by: ibguy at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (c5dWW)

--and the same to you and your sister!

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (GsAUU)

24 We're in the home stretch of a three-day grandkids babysit, ages K thru 4. Tonight's dinner table vocabulary lesson was about what "badass" means and how to use it in correct context.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (BeKMO)

25 Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?

Posted by: Jmel at May 27, 2017 10:16 PM (OeWgo)

26 Those cats are way more scientisty than Bill Nye.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 27, 2017 10:16 PM (+MPEM)

27 Slap, yesterday when I said you were 'baiting' The Horde 21+ times a month, it was supposed to be a play on your being proclaimed a 'master' and one of the ONT links, not a sign of irritation. Personally, I'm enjoying your firstiness.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2017 10:16 PM (DMUuz)

28 "Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?"

Yeah. When Melania walked with the other women she didn't look like a locomotive hauling a 100 carloads of coal like the Mooch did.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 10:18 PM (w+Jhj)

29 Evenin' Horde. What are we drinking?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2017 10:18 PM (KpvzS)

30 -Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2017 10:16 PM (DMUuz)

I took it to mean that. My apologies for my dull response!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 10:18 PM (6gk0M)

31 Evening all.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (D2vc1)

32 But, Bill Nye is more of a pussy.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (+MPEM)

33 When my late cat Leo was a little kitten, he used to climb on the window screens. He looked like a giant bug.

Tore the hell out of the screens, but it was totally worth it because it was so hilarious to watch.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (sdi6R)

34 25 Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?
Posted by: Jmel



Mooch is always angry.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (cFtz/)

35 #MemorialWeekend

Less than 50 comments?

I see the commentariat hasn't even warmed up yet.

I've still gotta check the post a bit closer.

Have a nevening y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - loosely speaking at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (hGZJP)

36 I've been up since 5:30. I drank a whole bottle of wine. I think I'm about to crash. Good night folks. Stay safe.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 10:20 PM (CNHr1)

37
34 25 Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?
Posted by: Jmel


Mooch is always angry.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (cFtz/)







MOOCH SMASH!

Posted by: Hulk at May 27, 2017 10:20 PM (quw2O)

38
21 times?

No, you should chew your food 32 times before swallowing. As my mother taught, "32 times keeps your tummy from danger, and you can stay up and watch the Lone Ranger."

Posted by: Dr. Bob Hartley at May 27, 2017 10:21 PM (8O3HH)

39 Good night all.

Work those Plan Bs. We may need them. And remember -- OPSEC, OPSEC, OPSEC.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 27, 2017 10:22 PM (u82oZ)

40 25 Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?
Posted by: Jmel at May 27, 2017 10:16 PM (OeWgo)

--Yes.

Melania is beautiful, and sexy, but although she's around my wife's age I don't have sexual thoughts about her --not because I like dudes, but because I think in a way she embodies America (immigrant FLOTUS who is not bitter about her adopted homeland).

She makes me proud of my country, unlike the Angry Squatch.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:22 PM (GsAUU)

41 G'Night, NaCly Dog!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 10:23 PM (6gk0M)

42 34 25 Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?

Posted by: Jmel


Mooch is always angry.


Posted by: Puddleglum at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (cFtz/)

The resting bitch face is wide awake.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 10:23 PM (XoldI)

43 29 Evenin' Horde. What are we drinking?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2017 10:18 PM (KpvzS)

--Alternating between vodka and diet/Miller Lite/pink Moscato

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:23 PM (GsAUU)

44
No, you should chew your food 32 times before swallowing. As my mother taught, "32 times keeps your tummy from danger, and you can stay up and watch the Lone Ranger."
Posted by: Dr. Bob Hartley


That's so annoying!

Posted by: Emily Hartley at May 27, 2017 10:24 PM (IqV8l)

45 I used to always have a flag in my yard. But it the pole was damaged during the Obama years and I didn't fix it. Tomorrow it's going back up. Bought a new pole and flag today.

Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:24 PM (N4gtY)

46 Bind. Jimes Bind.

Hello, Miss Muneypunny.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 10:25 PM (nlbfN)

47 >> That's so annoying!

Wear more sweaters, Emily.

Posted by: Dr. Bob Hartley at May 27, 2017 10:26 PM (8O3HH)

48 40. I could see a fellow holding that opinion of her.

However - FLILF.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 27, 2017 10:26 PM (TwwWO)

49 Amy Kellogg, ooooooooooooo

Posted by: Pure Prarie League at May 27, 2017 10:27 PM (6qmBU)

50 >>>Mooch is always angry.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 27, 2017 10:19 PM (cFtz/)<<<




If you want a picture of the future Mooch, imagine a boot stamping on a human face boob belt and a resting bitch face -- forever.

Posted by: zombie George Orwell at May 27, 2017 10:28 PM (+MPEM)

51 48 40. I could see a fellow holding that opinion of her.

However - FLILF.

Just sayin'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine. Glory to Kekistan! No Longer Accepting Harem Applicants at May 27, 2017 10:26 PM (TwwWO)

--Heh, I've stated my opinion, but at the same time I don't hold it as superior to yours.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:28 PM (GsAUU)

52 The cats are scientists video is from Cole and Marmalade. They have a bunch of fun videos and their human isn't bad looking either.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 10:29 PM (aT+Bx)

53 This is dedicated to Basement Cat.

You're First In Our Hearts.


Thank you-- I appreciate the kindness. I don't want to beat the subject to death, but after posting last night, I got ruthlessly analytical (hey, I'm an INTJ to the max, for morons who have had to be Myers-Briggs-typed) about why baiting bugs me so much, purely apart from personal history. I should thank Slap a second time for nudging me to this bit of enlightenment.

I think it has to do with the fact that that kind of stuff (rubbing a loss or second-place finish in the loser's face) has become nearly ubiquitous in the wider culture in recent years. Such as bat flipping in baseball, end zone dances in football, etc. And we see so much of it on the D side of the political aisle: Nancy Pelosi's little parade with the oversized gavel; Teh Won's "I won"; the gloating that goes on among the lefties whenever someone like Breitbart or Scalia dies, etc. I guess it's a sign of aging, but when I compare the disgraceful "nah, nah, hey, hey" chanting at Bush 43 during TFG's 2009 inauguration with the respect shown to Eisenhower (and Nixon too) at JFK's inauguration in 1961, I get nostalgic for civility and what I was taught as a kid about sportsmanship. Sometimes I think a large chunk of society has regressed to childishness (as distinct from childlikeness, which is a good thing).

Okay, end of lecture. I also want to thank CDR M for the M-Day thread. As I fessed up on the pet thread, my dad (82nd Airborne, WWII) died suddenly of a heart attack on Memorial Day weekend, so it's always a heavy weekend for me. But I am truly grateful for all the morons who have served or are serving in the Armed Forces. God bless you all.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM (3C9q2)

54 Melania was smoking hot in Europe this week. I wonder how angry that made Mooch?

-
Michelle is twice the woman Melania is!

(On an entirely unrelated note, a former chick boss of mine had a game where you'd insult someone in such a way they wouldn't know, or couldn't be sure, that they were being insulted.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM (Nwg0u)

55 boob belt and a resting bitch face -- forever.

Posted by: zombie George Orwell at May 27, 2017 10:28 PM (+MPEM)



Oh, Water Buffalo
Oh, Water Buffalo
You will always be a
Water Buffalo

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 10:31 PM (6qmBU)

56 Basement Cat, what happened?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:32 PM (GsAUU)

57

All right that's it with you pervert chronic masturbators having unclean thoughts about my great, great grandaughter Amy.

I'ma gone stitch up your dicks. And give you yogurt enemas.

Posted by: Dr. John Harvey Kellogg at May 27, 2017 10:33 PM (8O3HH)

58
Good evening, good people.

This is still the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people.

I say that not apropo of anything other than it is a fact.

Cherish it.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2017 10:33 PM (S/hVx)

59 But Melania doesn't have a penis.....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:33 PM (h7sWp)

60 -Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM (3C9q2)

I can certainly appreciate that, Thank You.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 10:33 PM (6gk0M)

61 Considering that Michelle practically had a nip slip walking around outside the Vatican, I'd say she, like her other half is missing the attention.

Also, Melania trolling Michelle with the thick belts is how
its done.

Posted by: Ktgreat at May 27, 2017 10:34 PM (f8ilN)

62 At the "24 health facts" link:

"A moderate amount of either coffee or beer hydrates people just about as well as water does. "


I knew it, I knew it... !

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 10:35 PM (OdK9v)

63 Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM
--

That was very nicely said.

Posted by: Ceiling Cat at May 27, 2017 10:36 PM (aT+Bx)

64 I'm gonna come out front and say I'm a chauvinist pig, but while I appreciate the sentiment behind showing off these chicks in the military, I honestly think they'd serve our country better by remaining civilians and having more babies to be future patriots (and don't tell me they'd have just as many while in service). Okay, maybe not the lesbians.

There. Flame away.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:36 PM (GsAUU)

65 Blessings to Joyce, the entire horde prayer list, and a number of special intentions.

Remembering 1LT William White USMCR Fordham '51 KIA 3/28/1953, SGT Albert Medas USMC Died of Wounds April 1953 at US Naval Hospital Yokosuka Japan and HC1 Dad USN Fleet Marine Force WIA 3/28/1953.

All in service with 1MARDIV E/2/7 during the battle at Outpost Vegas 38th parallel Korea. My pop mentioned his two buddies almost daily until the day he died. He missed them very much. Together again.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 27, 2017 10:37 PM (tr2D7)

66 The words "nip slip" and "Michelle" don't even belong anywhere near each other.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:37 PM (h7sWp)

67 That eagle cam is fantastic!!

Baby Sister Update follows.

Posted by: ibguy at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (c5dWW)

Seems to me it was filmed in the Alps. The mountains seem similar to the Canadian Rockies, but the buildings and railway look Euro.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:37 PM (XUcIQ)

68 Fox is dragging out Andrew Weil. Man, what happened to Samadi?

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 10:37 PM (6qmBU)

69 But Melania doesn't have a penis.....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:33 PM (h7sWp)

Pretty sure she has a plethora of penises she can chose from. Donald currently has the title of Chosen.

Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:37 PM (N4gtY)

70 I was up and happened to catch the Trumps' meeting with the Pope. It was way late, and I think 77 Sunset Strip was going to be on, but I happened to turn it to FOX and saw it live. Or was it Ironside on?

Anyway, I was stunned at her look in that veil. The though of "Reverend Mother" came to mind. Whether from Dune or elsewhere (is there any official nun office know as "Reverend Mother"?).

She was still a very, very hot Reverend Mother, but I did hold my thoughts in abeyance. In abeyance, mind you.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 27, 2017 10:38 PM (8O3HH)

71 Mike, speaking of which, I guess Pepsi really has gone full SJW. Here's their new upcoming 1893 cola flavors:

- 'Safe Space' spearmint
- Sweat of koi
- Panda piss
- Al Gore's ass

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 10:38 PM (eMKNe)

72 (On an entirely unrelated note, a former chick boss of mine had a game where you'd insult someone in such a way they wouldn't know, or couldn't be sure, that they were being insulted.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM (Nwg0u

======

Well, Just Bless Her Heart!

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 10:38 PM (Hj4t4)

73 For some reason, when I read the "Leaks" section, this song popped into my head:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3ADWQw2iw



(I couldn't find the original on YouTube. Lots of covers, though, but this one made it to #2 in 1963.)

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:38 PM (sdi6R)

74 I'ma gone stitch up your dicks. And give you yogurt enemas.
Posted by: Dr. John Harvey Kellogg
-----------

Too much caffeine, John, too much caffeine.

Posted by: Postum at May 27, 2017 10:39 PM (OdK9v)

75 Heh, love the drone FAIL on Gutfeld.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:39 PM (GsAUU)

76 When I was a kid in the 50s, almost all our father's were WWII vets. It was just the way it was. And for the most part, we understood that our fathers had done something that was good for us, good for the country, and good for the world. We understood that our fathers had stood up against evil and we were the lucky recipients of their bravery and sacrifice.

It really bothers me that so many young kids today have so little idea of the causes and consequences of that war.

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at May 27, 2017 10:40 PM (sm/rk)

77 my great, great grandaughter Amy.

I'ma gone stitch up your dicks. And give you yogurt enemas.

Posted by: Dr. John Harvey Kellogg at May 27, 2017 10:33 PM (8O3HH)



Not you, you silly fruit loop.
Famous Amy Kellogg of Fox news.
Oh, Amy, I could stay with you

Posted by: Pure Prarie League at May 27, 2017 10:40 PM (6qmBU)

78 Anyway, I was stunned at her look in that veil. The though of "Reverend Mother" came to mind. Whether from Dune or elsewhere (is there any official nun office know as "Reverend Mother"?).

She was still a very, very hot Reverend Mother, but I did hold my thoughts in abeyance. In abeyance, mind you.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 27, 2017 10:38 PM (8O3HH)

--Locally, it's Mother Superior (title) and Mother (addressing). In special cases (like when Mother Teresa was alive), Foundress.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:41 PM (GsAUU)

79 Bonjour, où sont toutes les femmes blanches?

Posted by: Constable Bart at May 27, 2017 10:42 PM (+GtGJ)

80 Mets' bull(shit) poison pen strikes again.....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:42 PM (h7sWp)

81 56 Basement Cat, what happened?
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:32 PM (GsAUU)


I'll try to keep the summary short: one of the posters on last night's ONT referred to Slapweasel's habit of baiting the Horde for usually being first on the ONT. And I commented further down the thread (in reference to that post) that it was one reason why I had mostly stopped posting on ONTs. Some people tried to explain that it's just silly fun (which I knew and know to be the case), but I felt compelled to explain that baiting behavior is not as easy for me to shrug off as it is for most people.

Hope that helps. I think most people by the time they get into their twenties have at least one sore spot somewhere in their psyches-- it's just that the location varies enormously from one person to the next. I must say I'm glad that the Horde is one place where it's safe to admit where one's scar tissue is located, 'cuz we all have some. (Oops, did I just call the HQ a "safe space"?)

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (3C9q2)

82 62
In wine there is wisdom.
In beer there is freedom.
In water there is bacteria.

Posted by: antisocialist at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (W2wn0)

83 It really bothers me that so many young kids today have so little idea of the causes and consequences of that war.
Posted by: Deplorable lady
-------------

No knowledge at all.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (OdK9v)

84 I know this ain't the movie thread anymore but I just saw Matt Damon in "The Great Wall".

It was okay for a cartoon. Better than I expected. Needed more cat girls though.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 10:44 PM (6FqZa)

85 79- Wo ist die weisse Frauen?

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:44 PM (h7sWp)

86 72
(On an entirely unrelated note, a former chick boss of mine had a game
where you'd insult someone in such a way they wouldn't know, or couldn't
be sure, that they were being insulted.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM (Nwg0u

Michelle carries that weight well.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 10:44 PM (XoldI)

87 Wo sind!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 10:45 PM (e9G8E)

88 Hope that helps. I think most people by the time they get into their twenties have at least one sore spot somewhere in their psyches-- it's just that the location varies enormously from one person to the next. I must say I'm glad that the Horde is one place where it's safe to admit where one's scar tissue is located, 'cuz we all have some. (Oops, did I just call the HQ a "safe space"?)

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (3C9q2)

Agreed, and there's even a technical term for that: "pet peeve".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:45 PM (XUcIQ)

89 entirely unrelated note, a former chick boss of mine had a game
where you'd insult someone in such a way they wouldn't know, or couldn't
be sure, that they were being insulted.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 10:30 PM (Nwg0u

Michelle carries that weight well.
Posted by: davidt at May




that is a really interesting dress, not everyone could make that work.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:45 PM (cPsPa)

90 There are things in this world to be triggered at, Basement Cat, but some moron posting "first!!" really isn't high on my list, personally.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 10:45 PM (6FqZa)

91 Yes....and...?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 27, 2017 10:46 PM (MZcWR)

92 Hope that helps. I think most people by the time they get into their twenties have at least one sore spot somewhere in their psyches-- it's just that the location varies enormously from one person to the next. I must say I'm glad that the Horde is one place where it's safe to admit where one's scar tissue is located, 'cuz we all have some. (Oops, did I just call the HQ a "safe space"?)

Posted by: Basement Cat at May




so what exactly was the thing that caused you to stop commenting?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:46 PM (cPsPa)

93 In water there is bacteria.

Posted by: antisocialist at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (W2wn0)

There's more than that.

Posted by: The Fish at May 27, 2017 10:46 PM (XUcIQ)

94
Hope that helps. I think most people by the time they get into their twenties have at least one sore spot somewhere in their psyches-- it's just that the location varies enormously from one person to the next. I must say I'm glad that the Horde is one place where it's safe to admit where one's scar tissue is located, 'cuz we all have some. (Oops, did I just call the HQ a "safe space"?)
Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (3C9q2)

--I think First! is puerile as hell, but I shrug it off.

I admit that there's an infinitesimal thrill to being first, but I try to make it at least a passably substantial or witty comment.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:47 PM (GsAUU)

95 Where has SMFH been? Or have I just missed her?

'sup, peeps?

We are under tornado watch and the power keeps going on and off, so if I drop off, no worries!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 10:47 PM (p8ef/)

96 I mean, this is like that chick in Gremlins 2 going mental because a gremlin dressed up like Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 10:47 PM (6FqZa)

97 82 62
In wine there is wisdom.
In beer there is freedom.
In water there is bacteria.
Posted by: antisocialist at May 27, 2017 10:43 PM (W2wn0)

--I thought in wine there was truth.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:47 PM (GsAUU)

98 Sorry, Herr Doktor Messerod.

My high school German teacher, who threw me out of his German I class after two and a half years.


The whole "verb thing".

Okay, class clown too....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:48 PM (h7sWp)

99 I admit that there's an infinitesimal thrill to being first, but I try to make it at least a passably substantial or witty comment.

Same here (although I'm rarely first). Plus it's fun to teabag the goof who posts "first" when they are, in fact, second. Beneath me.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 10:48 PM (6FqZa)

100 @84 I know this ain't the movie thread anymore but I just saw Matt Damon in "The Great Wall".

It was okay for a cartoon. Better than I expected. Needed more cat girls though.
--------------------

That's what happens when you let the Chinese make a movie - you get a shortage of cat girls. To meet the movie's cat girl quota, you hand it over to the Japanese.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (deapv)

101 C class Mercedes advertisement. Oh, how trendy.
Daimler produces those vehicles so that company meets overall CAFE standards.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (6qmBU)

102 Michelle made a good choice with that color of hair dye, it hides the grey well.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (XoldI)

103 We are under tornado watch and the power keeps going on and off, so if I drop off, no worries!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May




make sure you put your ruby louboutin pigalles on so if anything goes wrong you will be able to get home.
there's no place like ont,
there's no place like ont,
there's no place like ont.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (cPsPa)

104

And in Ripple, there is my safe space. I mean, after one bottle, I can look at Aunt Esther without throwing up.

Posted by: Fred Sanford at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (8O3HH)

105 I admit that there's an infinitesimal thrill to being first, but I try to make it at least a passably substantial or witty comment.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:47 PM (GsAUU)

Posting a first! because you happen to fluke into it is serendipity. Constantly posting firsts! because of being obsessed with it is mildly annoying. It's kind of like a tic, I guess. I don't think any the less of Slap because of his "hobby", but I wish he wouldn't do it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (XUcIQ)

106 102 Prolly a wig anyway.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (h7sWp)

107 When 0200Z rolls around, I start tappin' that F5 key like a cocaine-addled lab monkey... It's just habit now!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (e9G8E)

108 I admit that there's an infinitesimal thrill to being first, but I try to make it at least a passably substantial or witty comment.

Lordy, I should let this drop-- Slap went beyond just saying "first!" to adding some kind of remark intended to tweak the other morons about being latecomers. That was what bugged me.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (3C9q2)

109 C class Mercedes advertisement. Oh, how trendy.
Daimler produces those vehicles so that company meets overall CAFE standards.
Posted by: gNewt at May




ugly effing car. much prefer mercedes to bmw but would drive a 3 series before c class any day.




by the way what the fuck is with the 4 series?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (cPsPa)

110 Lordy, I should let this drop-- Slap went beyond just saying "first!" to adding some kind of remark intended to tweak the other morons about being latecomers. That was what bugged me.
Posted by: Basement Cat at May




meh, you should never have brought it up. there are loads more irritating things about the ont than that.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:52 PM (cPsPa)

111 I'm gonna come out front and say I'm a chauvinist pig, but while I appreciate the sentiment behind showing off these chicks in the military, I honestly think they'd serve our country better by remaining civilians and having more babies to be future patriots (and don't tell me they'd have just as many while in service). Okay, maybe not the lesbians.


There. Flame away.
--

There is no way women should be in combat. EVER.

That whole "I can do whatever a man can do" isn't true. Women's bodies are different and have different muscle mass. End of story.

If a woman insists on being in the service, she can do something administrative or "nursing."

/ha! I showed you!

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 10:53 PM (aT+Bx)

112 106
102 Prolly a wig anyway.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (h7sWp)


I used a sharpie.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 27, 2017 10:53 PM (2DT4P)

113 Also... Depeche Mode supposedly isn't gay.

That seems really... um... not right.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 10:53 PM (aT+Bx)

114 95 Where has SMFH been? Or have I just missed her?

'sup, peeps?

We are under tornado watch and the power keeps going on and off, so if I drop off, no worries!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 10:47 PM (p8ef/)

--Last I saw, SMFH had a ton on her plate. I'm always last to know though.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:54 PM (GsAUU)

115 Posting a first! because you happen to fluke into it is serendipity. Constantly posting firsts! because of being obsessed with it is mildly annoying. It's kind of like a tic, I guess. I don't think any the less of Slap because of his "hobby", but I wish he wouldn't do it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (XUcIQ)

======

Agreed. However , if it is that important to him, and for some wierd rason it is, then.....Meh.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 10:54 PM (Hj4t4)

116 @100 That's what happens when you let the Chinese make a movie - you get a shortage of cat girls. To meet the movie's cat girl quota, you hand it over to the Japanese.
-----------------

Or, of course, put Anna in charge of casting.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 10:54 PM (deapv)

117 But first you will blow me.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at May 27, 2017 10:54 PM (VdICR)

118 Last I saw, SMFH had a ton on her plate. I'm always last to know though.
Posted by: logprof at May




hope she was using chinet, otherwise, hoo boy.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:55 PM (cPsPa)

119 Heh, split screen eagle cam/ground cam as the bird snatches Michelle's wig.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 10:55 PM (XoldI)

120 "Lordy, I should let this drop-- Slap went beyond just saying "first!" to adding some kind of remark intended to tweak the other morons about being latecomers. That was what bugged me."
-Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 10:51 PM (3C9q2)

I understand. Stop giving Basement Cat crap.

This is the ONT. Let's honor those that have fallen, hang out and party!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 10:55 PM (6gk0M)

121 113 And water isn't wet.....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:55 PM (h7sWp)

122 meh, you should never have brought it up. there are loads more irritating things about the ont than that.
Posted by: YankeeFifth


Eh. Everybody has their thing. Critiquing or arguing it is about as useful as a William Hung Greatest Hits playlist.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 27, 2017 10:55 PM (66CWr)

123 Also... Depeche Mode supposedly isn't gay.

That seems really... um... not right.

Posted by: shibumi

They're dead butch. We all bro-out down at the Hooters every Saturday.

Posted by: The Petshop Boys at May 27, 2017 10:56 PM (fHnbd)

124 Posting "First" doesn't bother me, but my pet peeve is someone posting "Nood" on a thread that's still lively and vibrant. Sure, a nood is welcome on an hours-old thread that has grown stale and everyone has run out of things to say, but it's annoying when a thread is going full tilt and suddenly comes to a screeching halt, because "nood".

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:56 PM (sdi6R)

125 09 C class Mercedes advertisement. Oh, how trendy.
Daimler produces those vehicles so that company meets overall CAFE standards.

-------

CAFE standards mean the even the E class comes with a biturbo 4-banger.

Ridiculous.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 27, 2017 10:56 PM (+GtGJ)

126 Where has SMFH been? Or have I just missed her?

Last I heard she was working nights driving drunks around or something.

Other than that, don't know.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (D2vc1)

127 119 And pleeeeeeze don't use Michelle and snatch in the same sentence.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (h7sWp)

128 Hello everyone. Hope you are are all doing good. I have slept a ton this weekend. Playing catch up thanks to insomnia.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (hVdx9)

129 This is the ONT. Let's honor those that have fallen, hang out and party!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 10:55 PM (6gk0M)

I'm down with that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (XUcIQ)

130 "Firsts" are just firsts. Don't know why this has become such an issue. Life is too short. The ONT itself is The Thing.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2017 10:58 PM (tHwdc)

131 Michelle has a very petite, feminine jaw line.

Posted by: zombie Robert Z'Dar at May 27, 2017 10:58 PM (fHnbd)

132 I've still not ascertained the etymology of the expression "nood"...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 10:58 PM (e9G8E)

133 Margaritas, baby!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 27, 2017 10:58 PM (+GtGJ)

134
There is no way women should be in combat. EVER.

That whole "I can do whatever a man can do" isn't true. Women's bodies are different and have different muscle mass. End of story.

If a woman insists on being in the service, she can do something administrative or "nursing."

/ha! I showed you!
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 10:53 PM (aT+Bx)

--Well put. We have our beloved SMFH, who is awesome (and, I'll add gratuitously, pretty damn fly), and while she has been very good at what she does and kinda scares me something in my gut would be more devastated if she'd be hurt (or worse) on the front lines than if a guy, even an outstanding guy, suffered the same fate.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:58 PM (GsAUU)

135
Esther had a face that would scare a bull dog off a meat wagon. And you could roll her face in dough and make gorilla cookies.

But Mooch, now that *is* ugly.

Posted by: Fred Sanford at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (8O3HH)

136 And pleeeeeeze don't use Michelle and snatch in the same sentence.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (h7sWp)

She gets those finely-toned arms by pumping iron. You should see her snatch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (XUcIQ)

137 I've still not ascertained the etymology of the expression "nood"...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May




have you googled it?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (cPsPa)

138 110
there are loads more irritating things about the ont than that.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:52 PM (cPsPa)


And that's when the fight started.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (sdi6R)

139 Posting "First" doesn't bother me, but my pet peeve is someone posting "Nood" on a thread that's still lively and vibrant. Sure, a nood is welcome on an hours-old thread that has grown stale and everyone has run out of things to say, but it's annoying when a thread is going full tilt and suddenly comes to a screeching halt, because "nood".
Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:56 PM (sdi6R)

=========

I just see that as informing people. Everyone can certainly exercise the option to stay where they are.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (Hj4t4)

140 >>>CAFE standards mean the even the E class comes with a biturbo 4-banger.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 27, 2017 10:56 PM (+GtGJ)<<<



But I identify as a V8.

Posted by: a bi-turbo 4 banger at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (+MPEM)

141 Handing out poppies on the church steps after the masses this weekend.

And accepting donations.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 11:00 PM (h7sWp)

142 113 Also... Depeche Mode supposedly isn't gay.

That seems really... um... not right.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 10:53 PM (aT+Bx)

--Martin Gore digs dudes (NTTAWWT), but I think Gahan is straight.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:00 PM (GsAUU)

143 there are loads more irritating things about the ont than that.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:52 PM (cPsPa)

And that's when the fight started.
Posted by: rickl at May



well there are loads more irritating things.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:00 PM (cPsPa)

144 "I'm down with that."
-Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (XUcIQ)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1) (T) at May 27, 2017 11:00 PM (6gk0M)

145 It really bothers me that so many young kids today have so little idea of the causes and consequences of that war.
Posted by: Deplorable lady
---
Or any connection to the services at all.

The last time my youngest son was home on leave we all attended church on Sunday to which my son wore his service dress blues. After the service, some twentysomething accused my son of wearing a costume as no one joins the Navy any more. I believe that was the first time I ever heard the terms 'douchenozzle' and 'twatwaffle' used together in a sentence. Correctly, I might add.

I do wish son had waited to unload on the ass until we were out of the Vestibule but still . . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at May 27, 2017 11:01 PM (tr2D7)

146 Posted by: a bi-turbo 4 banger at May 27, 2017 10:59 PM (+MPEM)

-------

I see that. The price is identical.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 27, 2017 11:01 PM (+GtGJ)

147 14
Canadian Woman looking to adopted by an American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsUTS5COsc

Any morons willing?


Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:11 PM (N4gtY)

Science!
Screen door/hurricane, etc....
Meow!


Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 27, 2017 11:01 PM (8iiMU)

148 Snowflakes beware.

Good Bye Charlie's on. Debbie Reynolds playing a reincarnated womanizer. Cute

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 11:01 PM (6qmBU)

149 well there are loads more irritating things.
Posted by: YankeeFifth


For you. Maybe not for others. Really, sometimes I wish I could carve "YMMV" on the freakin' Moon.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 27, 2017 11:01 PM (66CWr)

150 Slapweasel good at baiting people?

Well, I guess he is something of a master baiter.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 27, 2017 11:02 PM (S6Pax)

151 Yes, Y5... Is it "New Object Of Desire"?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 11:02 PM (e9G8E)

152
No, you should chew your food 32 times before swallowing. As my mother taught, "32 times keeps your tummy from danger, and you can stay up and watch the Lone Ranger."
Posted by: Dr. Bob Hartley






NOW you tell me!

Posted by: Zombie Mama Cass at May 27, 2017 11:03 PM (quw2O)

153 Woman looking to adopted by an American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsUTS5COsc

Any morons willing?


Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:11 PM (N4gtY)




meh too skinny. less interested in adoption than indentured servitude.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:03 PM (cPsPa)

154
Tomorrow will be the eat yourself into a coma day her, we have a family get together that I'm hosting

Only be 8 of us, plus whichever neighbor wanders by. There is enough food (the usual goodies) for a platoon or two. Should be a fine time.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2017 11:04 PM (S/hVx)

155 Really, sometimes I wish I could carve "YMMV" on the freakin' Moon.

Maybe later. First they need to carve "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 11:05 PM (6FqZa)

156 Her mouth makes me think she has a talent for singing.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 11:05 PM (VdICR)

157 And pleeeeeeze don't use Michelle and snatch in the same sentence.



Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 10:57 PM (h7sWp)



She gets those finely-toned arms by pumping iron. You should see her snatch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
****

I hear it's quite impressive.

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 27, 2017 11:06 PM (hVdx9)

158 Canadian Woman looking to adopted by an American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsUTS5COsc

Any morons willing?


Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:11 PM (N4gtY)

--She's like a brunette Canadian Kat Timpf.

And Jistin Trudoh! is an asshat.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:06 PM (GsAUU)

159 For you. Maybe not for others. Really, sometimes I wish I could carve "YMMV" on the freakin' Moon.
Posted by: Brother Cavil at May




meh, not all irritants are equal. quitting the ont over the first nonsense is silly. it has been going on forever. show up late, page down twice problem solved.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:06 PM (cPsPa)

160
And pleeeeeeze don't use Michelle and snatch in the same sentence.

She gets those finely-toned arms by pumping iron. You should see her snatch.


She is the answer to the question:
You load sixteen tons and what do you get?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2017 11:06 PM (IqV8l)

161 This is the ONT. Let's honor those that have fallen, hang out and party!

The Phillies have won 2 out of their last 3 games, by one run each, bringing their season average up to a resounding . . . . 362! A genuine hot streak! (I'm sure grammie's Cubbies are shaking . . . with giggles).

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 11:07 PM (3C9q2)

162 Watched "We Were Soldiers" tonight to kick off the movie weekend.
I figured it would be easier the second time around.
I was wrong.

I enlisted towards the end of that war. Oct 72.
Guys were fighting and dying. Why should I be any different?
God saw to it I guess that I didn't go there, nor to any other war.

To the men young and old who did, my undying gratitude.

Posted by: teej at May 27, 2017 11:07 PM (qREJU)

163 SMFH left in apparent solidarity with chi after Cooth got rebanned permanently this time

Posted by: MAxIE at May 27, 2017 11:07 PM (9TR2V)

164 My Kat is way hotter than that Canadian orphan...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 11:08 PM (e9G8E)

165 Tomorrow will be the eat yourself into a coma day her, we have a family get together that I'm hosting

Only be 8 of us, plus whichever neighbor wanders by. There is enough food (the usual goodies) for a platoon or two. Should be a fine time.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2017 11:04 PM (S/hVx)

=======

There is a whole pig ready to be placed in the BBQ box at about 4:00 this morning. Expecting to feed 15 and send everyone home with a pound in a freezer bag.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 11:09 PM (Hj4t4)

166 Greetings:

Back in the summer of the last '68, I was doing my military service down in Texas, which, besides the Bronx, is the place I'd most like to be from. For several months, I was assigned to the base's funeral detail. We would provide pallbearers and a rifle squad for those requesting military funerals in the local area.

Military-wise, it wasn't bad duty. On the days when we weren't scheduled for a funeral, we would spend several hours practicing our "drill & ceremonies" and a couple more squaring away our uniforms and equipment. On funeral days, we would head out as early as necessary on a 44-passenger bus, often in civilian clothes or else fatigues with our first-class uniforms and equipment in tow. Often we would change into our duty uniforms at the funeral home, once in the casket display room, or on the bus itself.

It being Texas and the Viet Nam war being in full swing, we often had several funerals a week to perform. There was a certain spectrum from the World War graduates through the Viet Nam casualties. The former might involve a local veterans' group and an afterward BBQ or such. The latter were somewhat more emotionally raw as most of us were facing our own deployments in the near future.

Two funerals of the latter sort have stayed with me through the years. The first was of a young Private First Class who had been MIA for several months before his remains were recovered. I was on the pallbearer squad that day and when we went to lift the casket, it almost flew up in the air. There was so little of the young soldier left that we totally overestimated the weight we were lifting and almost looked decidedly unprofessional.

The other was that of a Negro Specialist 4th Class. I was in the rifle squad that day. In the rendering of military honors, there is a momentary pause between the end of the (21-gun) rifle salute and the beginning of the playing of "Taps". It is a moment of profound silence in most cases. During that moment, the young soldier's mother gave out a yowl from the depths of her grief that so startled me that I almost dropped the rifle out of my hands. That yowl echoes within me still.

I'll readily admit that, as a result of my experiences, I became much imbued with a sense of duty and respect to and for our fallen. Hopefully, today, when our media do their reporting they will show some of the same and let "Taps" be played out in its entirety. It would be nice for a change.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 27, 2017 11:10 PM (evgyj)

167 161 This is the ONT. Let's honor those that have fallen, hang out and party!

The Phillies have won 2 out of their last 3 games, by one run each, bringing their season average up to a resounding . . . . 362! A genuine hot streak! (I'm sure grammie's Cubbies are shaking . . . with giggles).
Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 11:07 PM (3C9q2)

--Did you hear Jim Bunning passed away?

R.I.P.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:10 PM (GsAUU)

168 We have our beloved SMFH, who is awesome (and, I'll add gratuitously, pretty damn fly), and while she has been very good at what she does and kinda scares me something in my gut would be more devastated if she'd be hurt (or worse) on the front lines than if a guy, even an outstanding guy, suffered the same fate.
--

IMHO, men are biologically wired to protect women. For the species to continue, there MUST be women available.

That's why women should not be on the front lines. Outside of the biology of it, men are wired to protect women, which interferes with "killing the guy who is trying to kill me." It's... distracting at a time you cannot be distracted, since you life depends on it. I admire the women who can get through the training (I never could) however, In battle.. please put them somewhere else.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:11 PM (aT+Bx)

169 At night Kat Timpf comes to me in my dreams. Dressed as a "space nerd". And I poke her with my "nerd stick"...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 11:11 PM (e9G8E)

170 that Faith Goldy girl is ok but she is funny so she gets extra points.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:11 PM (cPsPa)

171 Kat Timpf!!!

I'll be in my bunk....

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 11:11 PM (h7sWp)

172 Women "serving" in the military"

During WWII, there were women in units that shuttled Lend Lease airplanes (P-39's) up to Alaska, where the Russians picked them up and flew them back to the USSR.

My Grandmother, while she wasn't in uniform, worked for the Army Air Corps in a "classified" job. She was the first women that was assigned to rebuild Norden bomb sights. They would bring the broken and damaged Nordens to Wright Patterson to be rebuilt. Her late husband (my grandfather) had taught her how to read blue prints (he was an architect for a while). Classified work, that took brains and skill (my grandmother was not a particularly big women).

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 27, 2017 11:11 PM (S6Pax)

173 Also... I am SHOCKED I'm saying this, but if you can get past the faux gay, Depeche Mode has a nice show.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:12 PM (aT+Bx)

174 At night Kat Timpf comes to me in my dreams. Dressed as a "space nerd". And I poke her with my "nerd stick"...
Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May



ugh. used to think she was clever and funny but now she is just irritating.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:12 PM (cPsPa)

175 Hello Horde! Taking the bus up to NY this morning, I overheard some smug liberal reading from her phone that Trump had agreed to stay in the Paris Climate Accord. Good to see that was Fake News. Always trust the HQ over some lib on her glowing rectangle.

Posted by: josephistan at May 27, 2017 11:13 PM (ANIFC)

176 Michelle has a very petite, feminine jaw line.

Posted by: zombie Robert Z'Dar at May 27, 2017 10:58 PM (fHnbd)
And it hides the way she can unhinge it to ingest a lobster whole!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 27, 2017 11:14 PM (JO9+V)

177 I got to see Depeche Mode twice, once in San Antonio and once in Houston. Not that there's anything wrong with that

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 11:14 PM (6FqZa)

178 howdy horde....just wanted to give an update to the Days of Our Lives from last night.

So, I guess at this little cookout, everyone "had someone" and he was feeling particularly lonely, which was why he was so sad. Why he didn't want to talk to me about it...who knows.

But, after talking to him extensively...the long distance is taking quite a toll on him. He is not used to being tethered to his phone/computer, and feeling like he has to check in all the time. Which...I guess I get, but everything you read/hear about long-distance relationships is that consistent communication is absolutely necessary. It's pretty much all we have.

He said he is used to, with his current friends....not texting much, but just talking to them in real life, and that's what he prefers. I told him he was comparing apples and oranges. Sure, I understand if you are going to see someone in an hour or the next morning, I can understand his point. But, we can't just be like...."See you in 4 months, bye" It's gonna be a while before we see each other (if at all, at this point) We have to keep in touch, that's all there is to it. I understand it isn't ideal for him, and I'm sorry that it adds a layer of stress to his life.

He's not done with me, nor I with him, but I think the situation is just hitting him a lot harder than in the past few weeks.

Just wanted to keep ya'll updated.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (smD62)

179 --Did you hear Jim Bunning passed away?

Yes, I did, thank you for the reminder. He will be missed as a senator as well as a pitcher.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (3C9q2)

180 I used to listen to Depeche Mode when I was in law school. I didn't cut myself, but I was tempted.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (+GtGJ)

181 Hello Horde! Taking the bus up to NY this morning, I overheard some smug liberal reading from her phone that Trump had agreed to stay in the Paris Climate Accord. Good to see that was Fake News. Always trust the HQ over some lib on her glowing rectangle.
Posted by: josephistan at May 27, 2017 11:13 PM (ANIFC)

======

He tweeted today that he will make his decision next week.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (Hj4t4)

182 110 meh, you should never have brought it up. there are loads more irritating things about the ont than that.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:52 PM (cPsPa)

Indeed. The shocking lack of shirtless, kilted hotties is most disconcerting.

And I cannot believe I managed to miss Angelina Jolie's at Disneyland yesterday. I wanted to see if she's as skinny in person
.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:16 PM (hscyr)

183 Good evening everyone! Just a few minutes here before I hop in the shower and head out. How is everyone's weekend going?

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2017 11:16 PM (Tnhbr)

184 there are loads more irritating things about the ont than that.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:52 PM


Mosdef! The significant paucity of beloved artistic icons being one of them.

Posted by: Intragalactic Yoko Ono Appreciation Society at May 27, 2017 11:16 PM (DMUuz)

185 Michelle is quite bright; I am certain she remembers exactly who her children's fathers most likely are.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 27, 2017 11:16 PM (c1VpD)

186 Always trust the HQ over some lib on her glowing rectangle.
Posted by: josephistan

Trump left it up in the air, but I don't think he is playing along. Most of those "European Leaders" all look like a bunch of betas. Especially Macron and Trudeau. The video linked with the Canadian girl was pretty funny.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 27, 2017 11:17 PM (S6Pax)

187 I got to see Depeche Mode twice, once in San Antonio and once in Houston. Not that there's anything wrong with that
--

It's a really nice looking show. The guy that does the show design is a famous photographer. Really well done.

Plus, I'm pretty sure no one at Depeche Mode is going to projectile vomit on you.

/looking right at YOU Rascal Flatts fans

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:17 PM (aT+Bx)

188 Bebes!



And I cannot believe I managed to miss Angelina Jolie's at Disneyland yesterday. I wanted to see if she's as skinny in person
.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May




someone needs to buy that girl a lot of steak dinners. pretty face but way to skinny. she would break in half in the middle of a good schtupping.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:17 PM (cPsPa)

189 >>>That's why women should not be on the front lines.
Outside of the biology of it, men are wired to protect women, which
interferes with "killing the guy who is trying to kill me." It's...
distracting at a time you cannot be distracted, since you life depends
on it. I admire the women who can get through the training (I never
could) however, In battle.. please put them somewhere else.


Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:11 PM (aT+Bx)<<<

**hoists sign**


Make Sammiches!

Not War!

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 27, 2017 11:17 PM (+MPEM)

190 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (cPsPa)

LOL, donning those is a sort of not-so-virtuous signalling in this house!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:17 PM (p8ef/)

191 Plus, I'm pretty sure no one at Depeche Mode is going to projectile vomit on you.

Wasn't that more GWAR's thing ?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 11:18 PM (6FqZa)

192 Michelle is quite bright; I am certain she remembers exactly who her children's fathers most likely are.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword

She knows exactly who the father is, one Mr. Turkey Baster.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 27, 2017 11:19 PM (fHnbd)

193 Michelle has a very petite, feminine jaw line.



Posted by: zombie Robert Z'Dar
****
When compared to Mike Tyson's perhaps...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 27, 2017 11:19 PM (hVdx9)

194 185 Michelle is quite bright; I am certain she remembers exactly who her children's fathers most likely are.

----------

It wasn't me. IVE DONE ENOUGH, GODDAMMIT!!!

Posted by: Webb Hubbell at May 27, 2017 11:19 PM (+GtGJ)

195 LOL, donning those is a sort of not-so-virtuous signalling in this house!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May



schtupping or tornado, whichever, after a good one the house will be a wreck afterwards.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:20 PM (cPsPa)

196 I'm late but I'm here! I bet some of you might have thought I was out doing something fun. Well, the joke's on you! The joke's...on you...

*sobs*

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:20 PM (0mRoj)

197 Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868509893581574150

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510048930205696

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510210062766080

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510339448676352

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510463990038528

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2017 11:21 PM (AOrEZ)

198 I'm late but I'm here! I bet some of you might have thought I was out doing something fun. Well, the joke's on you! The joke's...on you...

*sobs*
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May




now, now, don't you cry, no one thought that for even a moment.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:21 PM (cPsPa)

199 Michelle has a very petite, feminine jaw line.



Posted by: zombie Robert Z'Dar
****
When compared to Mike Tyson's perhaps...

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale

For reference:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q= robert+z%27dar&qs=IA&form=QBILPG&sp=1&pq= robert+z%27&sc=8-9&cvid= 7550A31D86954B6DB49B9CAB24A15655
remove spaces

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 27, 2017 11:22 PM (fHnbd)

200 If the rest of the weekend is as "relaxing" as today, I may not make it to Tuesday alive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2017 11:22 PM (F8jk2)

201 I'm not saying that MSG is bad for you. But, whoever thought the following statement is a powerful argument is pretty f'ng stupid:

And this makes sense - MSG is nothing more than a common amino acid with a sodium atom added. The placebo effect is more than strong enough to account for the negative effects sometimes associated with MSG.

You know what happens when we combine that same sodium atom with plain old water? Sodium hydroxide, aka lye. It'll eat holes in you if you let it.

But, that's chemistry for you. You can take a couple of harmless things, combine them together, and things can go sideways.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 11:22 PM (R+30W)

202 More Kateurday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510609192755200

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510735298682881

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868510895814606848

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868511017113968644

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/868511129470947328

Posted by: kbdabear at May 27, 2017 11:23 PM (AOrEZ)

203 There is NOTHING petite or feminine about da Wook.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 11:23 PM (h7sWp)

204 Michelle 0bama:

Keepin' it squatchy since 2008.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (GsAUU)

205 "But, after talking to him extensively...the long distance is taking quite a toll on him."

What?

"He is not used to being tethered to his phone/computer, and feeling like he has to check in all the time. Which...I guess I get...."

What? I don't get that at all.

"He said he is used to, with his current friends....not texting much, but just talking to them in real life, and that's what he prefers."

Well, I'd prefer to get laid by Sofia Vergara 4 times a day, but that's not how life always works.

"I understand it isn't ideal for him, and I'm sorry that it adds a layer of stress to his life."

You're on separate continents. How stressful is it gonna be when you're right in front of him???

"I think the situation is just hitting him a lot harder than in the past few weeks."

What situation? Talking with some American chick he's never met? What's gonna happen when life throws him a real curve ball?

Sorry, but this dude sounds very taxing emotionally. As I alluded to last night, like some chick.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (D2vc1)

206 142 --Martin Gore digs dudes (NTTAWWT), but I think Gahan is straight.
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:00 PM (GsAUU)

I know for a fact gahan likes pussy.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (hscyr)

207 There is NOTHING petite or feminine about da Wook.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 11:23 PM (h7sWp)

Her husband?

Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (N4gtY)

208 Her husband?
Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (N4gtY)


*golf clap*

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2017 11:25 PM (Tnhbr)

209 I know for a fact gahan likes pussy.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May




uh, details?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:25 PM (cPsPa)

210 There is NOTHING petite or feminine about da Wook.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 11:23 PM (h7sWp)

Her husband?
Posted by: X-ray

Thread winner already? Gonna be a short night.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 27, 2017 11:26 PM (fHnbd)

211 She's a Klingon

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 27, 2017 11:26 PM (dKiJG)

212 206 142 --Martin Gore digs dudes (NTTAWWT), but I think Gahan is straight.
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:00 PM (GsAUU)

I know for a fact gahan likes pussy.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (hscyr)

--Heh, glad my gaydar is not completely busted.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:28 PM (GsAUU)

213 Michelle's figure is almost as svelte as an actress' - like Lena Dunham, or that really popular comedy chick that steals jokes. You know, the blonde one that looks like she was made out of sacks of boiled cauliflower.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 27, 2017 11:28 PM (c1VpD)

214 210 There is NOTHING petite or feminine about da Wook.

Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at May 27, 2017 11:23 PM (h7sWp)

Her husband?
Posted by: X-ray

Thread winner already? Gonna be a short night.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at May 27, 2017 11:26 PM (fHnbd)

*Slow clap*

We have arrived.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:28 PM (GsAUU)

215 But, that's chemistry for you. You can take a couple of harmless things, combine them together, and things can go sideways.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 11:22 PM (R+30W)



MSG, nitrites, and nitrates (if I eat too much) give me headaches.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 11:29 PM (6qmBU)

216 RE: The Valenti column:

>> I don't remember puppy videos and pillows; if there was calming music or coloring books, it wasn't noticeable. But singling out details like this -- making it sound like a preschool for hysterical grownups rather than a quiet room with trained counselors -- is an intentional move to discredit.


Honestly, I don't know what's worse - alleged "adults" retreating to a pre-school environment after hearing someone say something they don't like during a debate, or needing professional counseling because someone said something they didn't like.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at May 27, 2017 11:29 PM (E5jIq)

217 ...because cauliflower is pretty...

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 27, 2017 11:29 PM (c1VpD)

218 He's not done with me, nor I with him,


Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (smD62)


Little One, he's done with you.

He would not feel tethered in any way, shape or form if he were really and truly interested.

Please listen to what he is telling you loudly and clearly.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (p8ef/)

219 What the fuck is a goony-goo-goo?

Posted by: Gus at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (ANIFC)

220 I'm late but I'm here! I bet some of you might have thought I was out doing something fun. Well, the joke's on you! The joke's...on you...


*sobs*
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May




now, now, don't you cry, no one thought that for even a moment.
--

I did! I thought Insomniac was out doing... something.

/what do people do? Go the grocery store? Get gas? IDK....

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (aT+Bx)

221 howdy horde....just wanted to give an update to the Days of Our Lives from last night.

So, I guess at this little cookout, everyone "had someone" and he was feeling particularly lonely, which was why he was so sad. Why he didn't want to talk to me about it...who knows.

But, after talking to him extensively...the long distance is taking quite a toll on him. He is not used to being tethered to his phone/computer, and feeling like he has to check in all the time. Which...I guess I get, but everything you read/hear about long-distance relationships is that consistent communication is absolutely necessary. It's pretty much all we have.

He said he is used to, with his current friends....not texting much, but just talking to them in real life, and that's what he prefers. I told him he was comparing apples and oranges. Sure, I understand if you are going to see someone in an hour or the next morning, I can understand his point. But, we can't just be like...."See you in 4 months, bye" It's gonna be a while before we see each other (if at all, at this point) We have to keep in touch, that's all there is to it. I understand it isn't ideal for him, and I'm sorry that it adds a layer of stress to his life.

He's not done with me, nor I with him, but I think the situation is just hitting him a lot harder than in the past few weeks.

Just wanted to keep ya'll updated.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May




so have you ever been in physical contact with him?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (cPsPa)

222 He's not done with me, nor I with him,


Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (smD62)

Little One, he's done with you.

He would not feel tethered in any way, shape or form if he were really and truly interested.

Please listen to what he is telling you loudly and clearly.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (p8ef/)
******************************

The Horde has great wisdom.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 11:31 PM (6qmBU)

223 I'm slightly conflicted on ladies in the military, given I know bio grandmother was a WASP...still, I'm not happy with 'em going on the front line, especially considering how many outright barbarians we're up against these days.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 27, 2017 11:32 PM (66CWr)

224 Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 11:29 PM (6qmBU)

My mama gets horrible headaches from MSG.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:32 PM (p8ef/)

225 188. someone needs to buy that girl a lot of steak dinners. pretty face but way to skinny.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:17 PM (cPsPa)

Hell she should have availed herself of several dole whips, beignets, churros...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:33 PM (hscyr)

226 My mama gets horrible headaches from MSG.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May




not one of those letters is a T

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:33 PM (cPsPa)

227 @221

Uh no....clearly not. October.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:33 PM (smD62)

228 Uh no....clearly not. October.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May




you an only child?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:34 PM (cPsPa)

229 AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bobo, outside the Obamas' hotel at May 27, 2017 11:35 PM (GsAUU)

230 @228

I am not....why?

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:35 PM (smD62)

231 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:33 PM (cPsPa)

Ha, since we've both gotten old, we do fight a lot.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:35 PM (p8ef/)

232 211 She's a Klingon
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 27, 2017 11:26 PM


"You go slow, be gentle. It's no one-way street -- you know how you feel and that's all. It's how the girl feels, too. Don't press. If the girl feels anything for you at all, you'll know."

Posted by: James T. Kirk at May 27, 2017 11:36 PM (DMUuz)

233 I think Jolie is and always has been absolutely hideous... It's her teeth!

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 11:36 PM (e9G8E)

234 209 uh, details?
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:25 PM (cPsPa)

NOT me!!! Friend of a friend, that I'm acquainted with.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:36 PM (hscyr)

235 I am not....why?
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May




you have a brother? what do your siblings say about this?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:36 PM (cPsPa)

236 Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:33 PM

So, something that may or may not have been pointed out.

When people are starting a relationship, they are usually on their best behavior.

Your guy seems to be coming across as needy and emotional. So it's possible that his BEST behavior is needy and emotional.

What is his worst behavior going to look like? Do you really want to go there?

Also... just for fun, look up Histrionic Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:37 PM (aT+Bx)

237 This is the squatchiest place I've ever been!

Posted by: Bobo, outside the Obamas' hotel at May 27, 2017 11:37 PM (GsAUU)

238 He's not done with me, nor I with him,

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (smD62)

========

He is done with you, but is not willing to or does not have the guts to come out and say this. Please plan accordingly.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 11:37 PM (Hj4t4)

239 NOT me!!! Friend of a friend, that I'm acquainted with.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May



oh. well you must have some details.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:37 PM (cPsPa)

240 And Diana Rigg with that bulbous right cheek bone... It's as if she has a spare eyeball squirrelled away in there! For me, one small flaw totally ruins it...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 27, 2017 11:38 PM (e9G8E)

241 Probably already covered today but I've been busy. One of my favorite bands. Saw ABB in the mid 90s when in Tampa when Dickie Betts was still in the band. They sounded terrific and it was a great show. His past finally caught up with him though. He probably shouldn't have made it out of the 70s alive. Anyway, RIP Greg Allman.

https://youtu.be/TCRS4DRmf_w

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 27, 2017 11:38 PM (kCtdY)

242 @218

I understand what you are saying. But, I suggested we take a break and he disagreed vociferously.

I also mentioned maybe not seeing each other in October when I travel, until he gets over whatever stresses he has going on, and that did not go over well...at all.

But trust me....I know what you are saying.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:39 PM (smD62)

243 239 NOT me!!! Friend of a friend, that I'm acquainted with.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May



oh. well you must have some details.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:37 PM (cPsPa)

And even if you don't, make some up. We'll never know the difference.

Posted by: josephistan at May 27, 2017 11:39 PM (ANIFC)

244 218 Little One, he's done with you.
Please listen to what he is telling you loudly and clearly.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (

Please listen to Miss T. She truly is a font of wisdom.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:39 PM (hscyr)

245 219 What the fuck is a goony-goo-goo?
Posted by: Gus at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (ANIFC)

GI Joe is swimming through the water...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:40 PM (hscyr)

246 @235

No brother...and my sister doesn't know. I mean....she knows I am traveling overseas. But....she doesn't know about all of....this.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:41 PM (smD62)

247 Uh no....clearly not. October.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:33 PM (smD62)

I predict a wild story made up between now and then to prevent him having to actually meet you, but maybe he hopes to get laid and will take a chance.

At any rate, I'd back off a little. Let him have a chance to miss you.

I know you feel compelled to stalk him keep the lines of contact open so as not to ruin your chances of a trip to Europe, but you are going to scare the shit out of him with this bunny-boiler intensity.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:43 PM (p8ef/)

248 I understand what you are saying. But, I suggested we take a break and he disagreed vociferously.

I also mentioned maybe not seeing each other in October when I travel, until he gets over whatever stresses he has going on, and that did not go over well...at all.

But trust me....I know what you are saying.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:39 PM (smD62)

=======

Please lisen to the abundance of advice offered above. You will be better off if you do.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 11:44 PM (Hj4t4)

249 243 oh. well you must have some details.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 11:37 PM (cPsPa)
And even if you don't, make some up. We'll never know the difference.
Posted by: josephistan at May 27, 2017 11:39 PM (ANIFC)

I don't. You pervs don't automatically plug in some rock star orgy scenario a la gene Simmons?!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:44 PM (hscyr)

250 Who was it that leaked President Trump is dropping out of that Paris whatchamacallit?

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at May 27, 2017 11:45 PM (mYYiR)

251 /what do people do? Go the grocery store? Get gas? IDK....
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (aT+Bx)

I don't really know either. What do people go out and do for fun these days?

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:45 PM (0mRoj)

252 >>>bunny-boiler intensity.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:43 PM (p8ef/)<<<




Oh no, no, no. That's really attractive in a woman.

Posted by: Jimmah Cahtah at May 27, 2017 11:45 PM (+MPEM)

253 i bet mrs. obama's a good swimmer.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2017 11:46 PM (tfQTV)

254 Evenin' everyone.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 27, 2017 11:46 PM (IcT7t)

255 Blanco!!!! How's the emotional 2 year old?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:47 PM (hscyr)

256 >>>I don't really know either. What do people go out and do for fun these days?

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:45 PM (0mRoj)<<<

**shrugs**

Posted by: Millenial, out and about, fixated on a cell phone at May 27, 2017 11:47 PM (+MPEM)

257 Le Sigh.

That was meant to be a strike, not an italic.

Pink, sweet girl, this is all very strange on your part.

My honest impression is that you're trying to get something out of him, and you won't let a little thing like him losing interest stop you.

Please let it stop you, or at the very least let it be friendship that drives you, not a romantic ideal.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:47 PM (p8ef/)

258 LOL.

A friend of mine working backstage at a venue was invited to a threesome by Gene Simmons and his girlfriend. She was a bit on the wild side, and I'm shocked to report she said no.

At least, that's what she told me. Had no reason to lie though, since I really don't care if she did Gene Simmons and his girlfriend.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:47 PM (aT+Bx)

259 253 i bet mrs. obama's a good swimmer.
Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2017 11:46 PM (tfQTV)


Aliens created her!

Posted by: Giorgio Tsoukalis at May 27, 2017 11:47 PM (GsAUU)

260 I predict a wild story made up between now and then to prevent him having to actually meet you, but maybe he hopes to get laid and will take a chance.

At any rate, I'd back off a little. Let him have a chance to miss you.

I know you feel compelled to stalk him keep the lines of contact open so as not to ruin your chances of a trip to Europe, but you are going to scare the shit out of him with this bunny-boiler intensity.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:43 PM (p8ef/)

=====

And.....this distills the whole situation. Letter perfect.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 11:48 PM (Hj4t4)

261 MSG, nitrites, and nitrates (if I eat too much) give me headaches.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 11:29 PM (6qmBU)

++++

That was one of the things that the "24 health 'facts' that are actually completely wrong" article was claiming to disprove. But, when you look at their "proof", there isn't much there. They actually use the phase "scientific consensus". But, no link or anything. Just that, plus some stuff about how MSG is made from harmless sodium and a harmless amino acid, so it must be ok.

MSG never bothered me, but with so many people saying it bothers them, I think it is the opposite of science to just shrug and say it's all in their head.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 11:49 PM (R+30W)

262 /what do people do? Go the grocery store? Get gas? IDK....
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:30 PM (aT+Bx)


I don't really know either. What do people go out and do for fun these days?
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:45 PM

After church I went to Walmart and bought 12 hour allergy D meds.

It takes longer to get "allergy D" meds than it does "narcotics," and you have to show proof of ID. Not sure you have to do that for actual "narcotics."

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (aT+Bx)

263 255 Blanco!!!! How's the emotional 2 year old?
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:47 PM (hscyr)

Emotional 2 year old...I'd say that's repetitive and redundant.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (0mRoj)

264 Tickled, you should fly out there right away and surprise him by making him breakfast. In fact, if you can introduce yourself to his mother first.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (Tnhbr)

265 Heh, I brought up the Hitler-Islam connection earlier, and lo and behold here's Black Pigeon:

https://youtu.be/D3TIFH1q0bM

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:51 PM (GsAUU)

266 Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:51 PM

Black Pigeon has some good videos.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:53 PM (aT+Bx)

267 I'm late but I'm here! I bet some of you might have thought I was out doing something fun. Well, the joke's on you! The joke's...on you...
*sobs*
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone

/what do people do? Go the grocery store? Get gas? IDK....
Posted by: shibumi

Insomniac, that was endearing to me. and i'm laughy, cause that's exactly what I did, shibumi, both those things...wandering lonely as a little cloud, as usual.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2017 11:53 PM (tfQTV)

268 After church I went to Walmart and bought 12 hour allergy D meds.

It takes longer to get "allergy D" meds than it does "narcotics," and you have to show proof of ID. Not sure you have to do that for actual "narcotics."
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (aT+Bx)


You are completely out of control.

Pharmacies make you show ID for controlled substances. The ID requirement for OTC medicine containing pseudoephedrine is a stupid overreaction to the whole meth thing, as I'm sure you know. I don't like being catalogued and scrutinized just because I want to get my sinuses unclogged.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:53 PM (0mRoj)

269 Blanco!!!! How's the emotional 2 year old?

Bebe! The little guy is doing great. He was here last night.

Little sh*t got up at 2:30 AM and whined at his mom until she let him have her phone so he could watch a video.

I would have felt sorry for her, but the noise woke me up and I was on a different floor of the house.

I think he'll be over on Monday. Mom has to work and daycare is observing the holiday.

How's your holiday weekend working out? I mean, aside from hanging here with us reprobates.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 27, 2017 11:53 PM (IcT7t)

270 >> In fact, if you can introduce yourself to his
>> mother first.

That's how my I met my nice young boy toy.

Posted by: Frog First Lady Brigitte Troglydette at May 27, 2017 11:54 PM (8O3HH)

271 @247, 257

Maybe on the wild story. We'll see. His best friend already has plans for a spa day with me and a double date with her and her boyfriend...so, I guess if nothing else, I will make a new friend that way. And, hey, maybe her boyfriend has a cute brother or cousin!

A strike, not an italic? Can you explain?

My plan, even before talking to him today, was to back off. But, now, I am afraid it will come across as petty or like I am punishing him or something. So, I may just have to be a little more strategic in my backing off.

I actually backed off about 3 weeks ago, and he came back at me stronger than ever, and in fact got upset that I was acting distant.

So, it has not been all bunny boiler intensity as it were. I actually had no intention of stalking or anything like that.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:54 PM (smD62)

272 What do people go out and do for fun these days?

Minor league baseball games. Don't cost a lot, parking is reasonable, stadiums are human-sized, and the nasty drunk type of fan usually doesn't show up.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 11:54 PM (3C9q2)

273 264 Tickled, you should fly out there right away and surprise him by making him breakfast. In fact, if you can introduce yourself to his mother first.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (Tnhbr)

Boil up some bunny-flavored pancakes!

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:55 PM (0mRoj)

274 I also mentioned maybe not seeing each other in October when I travel, until he gets over whatever stresses he has going on, and that did not go over well...at all.

But trust me....I know what you are saying.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:39 PM (smD62)

I've suggested this before. Ditch this loser, and go become a volunteer at a VA hospital, join USO, and help provide services to men in uniform. You will get to meet many classy guys in a safe environment, and even if you don't find the man of your dreams, you will make some peoples' day better.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 27, 2017 11:55 PM (XUcIQ)

275 Emotional 2 year old...I'd say that's repetitive and redundant.

Well, yes, in this case it is because he actually is 2. In other cases, well they're "adults" but model the same behavior.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 27, 2017 11:56 PM (IcT7t)

276 264 Tickled, you should fly out there right away and surprise him by making him breakfast. In fact, if you can introduce yourself to his mother first.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM

Pink, I'm not sure why you're so hell bent on this dramarama with a completely unavailable male. Maybe you want to examine that in detail, and turn your attentions to someone geographically desirable when you figure it out & are able to make a commitment.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 27, 2017 11:56 PM (hscyr)

277 Well, yes, in this case it is because he actually is 2. In other cases, well they're "adults" but model the same behavior.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 27, 2017 11:56 PM (IcT7t)

All too true. I've known a few adults who fit that description. Hell, I was married to one.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 11:57 PM (0mRoj)

278 Odd how pundits (and others) struggle to understand Memorial Day honors military dead while serving at war or other combat. Was listening to Laura Ingraham last week and she mentioned the holiday and honoring vets generally. No, that would be Veterans Day. >

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 27, 2017 11:58 PM (g9d8D)

279 @264

His mother is no longer living. Which...has had a huge impact on his life thus far, so...yeah that's not going to happen.

Also, his mother had some issues with depression so...a part of me feels like he might just be damaged goods.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:59 PM (smD62)

280 My plan, even before talking to him today, was to back off. But, now, I am afraid it will come across as petty or like I am punishing him or something. So, I may just have to be a little more strategic in my backing off.

I actually backed off about 3 weeks ago, and he came back at me stronger than ever, and in fact got upset that I was acting distant.

So, it has not been all bunny boiler intensity as it were. I actually had no intention of stalking or anything like that.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:54 PM (smD62)

========

You have been given great advice above, which is what you asked for. Why are you so determined to ignore said advice?

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 27, 2017 11:59 PM (Hj4t4)

281 Arf!

Posted by: Webb Hubbell at May 28, 2017 12:00 AM (+GtGJ)

282 269 How's your holiday weekend working out? I mean, aside from hanging here with us reprobates.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 27, 2017 11:53 PM (IcT7t)

Had a blast at a shockingly empty Disneyland yesterday. Slept it off, then did chores today. Not sure yet what tomorrow & Sunday hold. You gonna do the Vegas MoMee? My shoe closet wants to hook up with your amex. ;D

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:00 AM (hscyr)

283 NOT me!!! Friend of a friend, that I'm acquainted with.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May




oh, by the way, friends of friends are some of the best things ever. you have access to all kinds of stuff indirectly without sullying your reputation.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:01 AM (cPsPa)

284 >>go become a volunteer at a VA hospital, join USO, and help provide services to men in uniform. You will get to meet many classy guys in a safe environment, and even if you don't find the man of your dreams, you will make some peoples' day better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

AOP, what a good idea! we have a VA clinic nearby. thanks for that. I'm going to look into it. I love military personnel.

my supervisor at the post office is just retiring from the Army this month. She's among the best bosses I've ever had.

Posted by: booknlass at May 28, 2017 12:02 AM (tfQTV)

285 @280

How was that ignoring advice?

She said to back off. I agreed I was going to back off.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:02 AM (smD62)

286 No brother...and my sister doesn't know. I mean....she knows I am traveling overseas. But....she doesn't know about all of....this.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May




so why are you not telling your family? why so secretive?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:03 AM (cPsPa)

287 Also, his mother had some issues with depression so...a part of me feels like he might just be damaged goods.

If his mother was depressed, it could certainly sour his opinion of other women.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 28, 2017 12:03 AM (3C9q2)

288 Had a blast at a shockingly empty Disneyland yesterday. Slept it off,
then did chores today. Not sure yet what tomorrow Sunday hold.
You gonna do the Vegas MoMee? My shoe closet wants to hook up with your
amex. ;D


No, I've already booked my travel for the summer/fall. Heading up to Glacier National Park this year.

And I have the distinct impression your shoe closet isn't all that particular about who's AMEX it hooks up with. It's not classy like you are.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 12:03 AM (IcT7t)

289 266 Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 11:51 PM

Black Pigeon has some good videos.
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:53 PM (aT+Bx)

--Yeah, they're well-made. Sometimes I'm in the mood for PJW and his rants, and sometimes I'm in the mood for cooler material like BP and Mark Steyn.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:04 AM (GsAUU)

290 With the popularity of USTV and dumping cable, expect internet service costs by those providers to spike in attempts to offset.

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (g9d8D)

291 283 oh, by the way, friends of friends are some of the best things ever. you have access to all kinds of stuff indirectly without sullying your reputation.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:01 AM (cPsPa)


Yeeeaaaahhh, I'm definitely not the type that rock stars notice. You'll see...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (hscyr)

292 I just polished off half a quart of Neopolitan ice cream.

I hate it when my wife's away.




Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (9A6UB)

293 No, I've already booked my travel for the summer/fall. Heading up to Glacier National Park this year.


Beautiful place.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (0mRoj)

294 @286

I don't tell things till there is something to tell.

Heck, my parents still don't know I'm going over there yet.

It's not secretive so much as....I prefer to hedge on things as much as possible.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (smD62)

295 Yeeeaaaahhh, I'm definitely not the type that rock stars notice. You'll see...
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May




mmmhm, sure.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:06 AM (cPsPa)

296 Was listening to Laura Ingraham last week and she mentioned the holiday and honoring vets generally. No, that would be Veterans Day. >

Posted by: MSTisdale at May 27, 2017 11:58 PM (g9d8D)



It's Decoration Day.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 12:06 AM (6qmBU)

297 I don't tell things till there is something to tell.

Heck, my parents still don't know I'm going over there yet.

It's not secretive so much as....I prefer to hedge on things as much as possible.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May




well, if there is nothing to tell what are you yammering about here?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:07 AM (cPsPa)

298 288 And I have the distinct impression your shoe closet isn't all that particular about who's AMEX it hooks up with. It's not classy like you are.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 12:03 AM (IcT7t)

Heh, yeah, it's a dirty ho. Bummer you won't at vegas.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:07 AM (hscyr)

299 Yeeeaaaahhh, I'm definitely not the type that rock stars notice. You'll see...
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (hscyr)

You're a man? I never would have guessed.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 28, 2017 12:07 AM (0mRoj)

300 @287

Yes maybe....but I meant more that....I know depression can sometimes be hereditary.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:09 AM (smD62)

301 Heh, yeah, it's a dirty ho. Bummer you won't at vegas.

Consolation? The emotional 2 year old's great grandmother lives in Vegas, so he might be in town that weekend.

'Course, you'll never see him if he is there.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 12:09 AM (IcT7t)

302 295
mmmhm, sure.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:06 AM (cPsPa)

Meh. Ask Gushie. Ask Alex. They can confirm

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:09 AM (hscyr)

303 293 No, I've already booked my travel for the summer/fall. Heading up to Glacier National Park this year.


Beautiful place.
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (0mRoj)

--Never been. Almost exactly 3 years ago I went to Waterton Lakes NP (across the border in Alberta --also highly recommended). I wanted to take the ferry on Upper Waterton Lake to Glacier, but alas there were not enough passengers for the ship to leave. Beautiful corner of the world.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:10 AM (GsAUU)

304 This axios. com web site... Must be new. I note that it's got a link Drudge that I'd not noticed before...

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at May 28, 2017 12:10 AM (e9G8E)

305 My plan, even before talking to him today, was to back off. But, now, I am afraid it will come across as petty or like I am punishing him or something. So, I may just have to be a little more strategic in my backing off.

=======

How was that ignoring advice?

She said to back off. I agreed I was going to back off.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:02 AM (smD62)

=======

Asked and answered. Please listen to the plethora of advice already offered.

Posted by: GOULD ll at May 28, 2017 12:11 AM (Hj4t4)

306 Time for bed

Posted by: josephistan at May 28, 2017 12:11 AM (ANIFC)

307 Yeeeaaaahhh, I'm definitely not the type that rock stars notice. You'll see...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (hscyr)



Well, I'm not a Rock Star, but I do have a certain pudding cup pastie photo on file. What, do I gotta trash a hotel room?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 12:12 AM (v5iqM)

308 who gets into a long distance relationship with someone they have never met? that is not how it works. no guy is going to swear loyalty to some girl he has never met and will not meet sometime soon. not how it works.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:13 AM (cPsPa)

309 I was looking at some pics in the Daily Mail of Melania and all the Euro first ladies (including one First Dude). Macron's "mother figure" Brigitte is pretty pitiful. She's a 64 year old woman trying to look young and sexy.

She was actually sort of hunched over wearing heels and some flirty LBD type thing.

That has always been pretty pitiful to me, an old woman trying to look young and hot.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 12:13 AM (8O3HH)

310 "this latest leak helps the Russians. If true, they just revealed to them that we were able to monitor Kislyak's private comms."

And the leak itself proves the need for a back channel, doesn't it.

CIA's Woolsey mentioned today how he got in an argument with a leaker last month who told the Mexican Cartels how we thwart their human trafficking, calling the leaker an associate pimp.

Anything, any treason, any assistance to ISIS, anything at all--just GET TRUMP!

I hope these snake traitors get the rope.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 28, 2017 12:15 AM (Ndje9)

311 301 'Course, you'll never see him if he is there.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 12:09 AM (IcT7t)

Probably for the best since I'm from the fill 'em full of sugar, shake them up up & send them home auntie school.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:16 AM (hscyr)

312 309 I was looking at some pics in the Daily Mail of Melania and all the Euro first ladies (including one First Dude). Macron's "mother figure" Brigitte is pretty pitiful. She's a 64 year old woman trying to look young and sexy.

She was actually sort of hunched over wearing heels and some flirty LBD type thing.

That has always been pretty pitiful to me, an old woman trying to look young and hot.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 12:13 AM (8O3HH)

--Yeah, say what you will about Sarkozy's politics, but at least Carla Bruni was top shelf arm candy.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:16 AM (GsAUU)

313 @308

It's the new age of online dating my dear.

There are some people who go years before meeting their significant other, one I think I saw as much a 6 or 7 years before they met. Which, that is something I cannot imagine. That is just way too long to wait before meeting.

Also, it's not entirely without precedent. In the 1800s or even early 1900s, people met and corresponded via postal mail and fell in love before meeting each other. Some never even met. Shop Around the Corner is an example.

I'm not saying it's common. It's not....it's very uncommon. But, you can't say that it NEVER happens.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:17 AM (smD62)

314
14 Canadian Woman looking to adopted by an American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytsUTS5COsc

Any morons willing?
Posted by: X-ray at May 27, 2017 10:11 PM (N4gtY)

Dunno, she any good at framing a pony wall? I need a pony wall.
What? Sure. Feel free. Look it up.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 28, 2017 12:18 AM (e1mEI)

315 307 Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 12:12 AM (v5iqM)

Beware the Purple Drank, consumed in celebration of the orange scalp weasel!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:18 AM (hscyr)

316 Probably for the best since I'm from the fill 'em full of sugar, shake them up up send them home auntie school.

Heh. Done that with him myself a time or two. Mom is usually not amused.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 12:18 AM (IcT7t)

317 I was looking at some pics in the Daily Mail of Melania and all the Euro first ladies (including one First Dude). Macron's "mother figure" Brigitte is pretty pitiful. She's a 64 year old woman trying to look young and sexy.


She was actually sort of hunched over wearing heels and some flirty LBD type thing.
--

So she WAS the hag like blonde? I wasn't sure.

There's something about liberal women, anger and age.

They hate getting old.

HATE IT.

Perhaps it's because they feel they're getting closer to death, and know they are not good people.

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 12:19 AM (aT+Bx)

318 Barrel roll or aileron roll, do journalists know the difference?

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:19 AM (1L9V9)

319 273 264 Tickled, you should fly out there right away and surprise him by making him breakfast. In fact, if you can introduce yourself to his mother first.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (Tnhbr)

Boil up some bunny-flavored pancakes!
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not go

My brother ,has five little ones hanging around his front porch that would be perfect for that.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 12:19 AM (63QcZ)

320 Nyah???

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 12:21 AM (d4e3K)

321 Dunno, she any good at framing a pony wall? I need a pony wall.

What? Sure. Feel free. Look it up.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 28, 2017 12:18 AM (e1mEI)
Look up Faith Goldy's Pony Wall skills or how to build a pony wall?

Posted by: X-ray at May 28, 2017 12:21 AM (N4gtY)

322 who gets into a long distance relationship with someone

Not me, 20 miles max, might have something to do with my perpeptual single status.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:22 AM (1L9V9)

323 Michelle made a good choice with that color of hair dye, it hides the grey well.
Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 10:49 PM (XoldI)


Michelle wears wigs. And it is nice to see she has access to such a large variety of them, it should make choosing one that looks good less of a trial for her.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 28, 2017 12:24 AM (mkDpn)

324 Barrel roll or aileron roll, do journalists know the difference?

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:19 AM (1L9V9)




Journalists know the Dinner Roll, and are gullible as to the Rick Roll.

'Cause that's how they roll.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 12:24 AM (v5iqM)

325 313. There are some people who go years before meeting their significant other
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:17 AM (

But you don't want to meet a partner, or you wouldn't be serially pursuing geographically undesirable, emotionally unavailable bearers of Y chromosomes. I am purposefully NOT referring to them as men.

When you get yourself sorted, follow AOP's advice to the USO. You'll meet actual men that way.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:24 AM (hscyr)

326 316 Heh. Done that with him myself a time or two. Mom is usually not amused.
Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 12:18 AM (IcT7t)

And that's why it's ever so much fun.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:26 AM (hscyr)

327 Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 11:50 PM (aT+Bx)


Honey, out here we have to have a fucking prescription for Advil Cold & Sinus.

So I got to pay $150 bucks for it, if you include the amount of the office visit, although the doctor has been giving me refills for years, so it was a one-time thing.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:26 AM (DHiRx)

328 guh ghlub ugh barf glugh

I WILL BURY YOU. I WILL SEDUCDE YOUR DAUGHTERS AND RAPE YOUR NATION.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 12:30 AM (vRcUp)

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Posted by: SouthTexas at May 28, 2017 12:32 AM (Elnfu)

330 328: she was going to be "the most powerful woman in the history of the world".

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 28, 2017 12:33 AM (WTSFk)

331 I have the power to brainwash any white person into committing suicide. I have mental hypnotic powers you cannot even dream of.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 12:33 AM (vRcUp)

332 Also, his mother had some issues with depression so...a part of me feels like he might just be damaged goods.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:59 PM (smD62)

A part of ME feels like he might be damaged goods, just from what I read.

Also, if you're talking with him every single day, STOP. Not necessary.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 12:33 AM (Jcg9Q)

333 Sorry about the excess crap.

Posted by: SouthTexas at May 28, 2017 12:33 AM (Elnfu)

334 Hi.

Going to read some comments now.

Further bulletins as events warrant.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 12:33 AM (rJUlF)

335 Posted by: SouthTexas at May 28, 2017 12:32 AM (Elnfu)


Southfork Ranch had less acreage, man.

Barrel.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 28, 2017 12:34 AM (+GtGJ)

336 Ho ho ho, Solo.

Posted by: The Barrel at May 28, 2017 12:35 AM (+GtGJ)

337 I just polished off half a quart of Neopolitan ice cream.

I hate it when my wife's away.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2017 12:05 AM (9A6UB)

Half a quart is a pint, right?

For me, that's called getting warmed up.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 12:35 AM (Jcg9Q)

338
A part of ME feels like he might be damaged goods, just from what I read.
--

I get that he's overly emotional, which is a Histrionic thing.

Which is NOT good.

As in "run Tickled, run."

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 12:35 AM (aT+Bx)

339 I'm not saying it's common. It's not....it's very uncommon. But, you can't say that it NEVER happens.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:17 AM (smD62)

Sounds to me like you are taking great pains to avoid meeting any man in real life, because you might have to make a decision.

You want to live in a Harlequin romance.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:35 AM (XUcIQ)

340 ... and never let us forget it.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 28, 2017 12:35 AM (WTSFk)

341 LMAO, what bbd wrote about David Gahan reminds me of when in 2004 Terrell Owens went from SFO to Philly and insinuated that Jeff Garcia was teh ghey. Garcia's wife, a former Playmate of the Year, promptly commented that Jeff was "absolutely, 100% not gay" (referencing O.J.).

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:36 AM (GsAUU)

342 Posted by: SouthTexas at May 28, 2017 12:32 AM (Elnfu)

Hello

Posted by: The Barrel at May 28, 2017 12:36 AM (GsAUU)

343 At least he didn't blow the margins.

Posted by: The Barrel at May 28, 2017 12:37 AM (+GtGJ)

344 It was ice cream.

Posted by: The Penguin at May 28, 2017 12:37 AM (+GtGJ)

345 ... speaking of which, did you see the report that an outcrop near the summit of mt. everest called "the hillary step" crumbled in last year's earthquake?

ye gods...!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 28, 2017 12:37 AM (WTSFk)

346
"I just polished off half a quart of Neopolitan ice cream."

Is that more than two scoops?

Posted by: Trump at May 28, 2017 12:38 AM (N4gtY)

347 I may have no official standing, but I hereby declare a "pass" for South Texas as regards that copy/paste error.

The value of the content far exceeded the offense of the error.

Sorry, Barrel. Just ain't your night on that one.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 12:38 AM (v5iqM)

348 At least he didn't blow the margins.

You have no idea how disappointed we are.

Posted by: The Margins at May 28, 2017 12:39 AM (IcT7t)

349 Another windoze user outs themselves. Now that you are out of the closet SouthTexas you might consider one of the free download Linux distributions.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:39 AM (1L9V9)

350 Southfork Ranch had less acreage, man.

Barrel.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 28, 2017 12:34 AM (+GtGJ)

I move he get a pass for that one, given that the sentiments expressed are noble.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:39 AM (XUcIQ)

351 Shit. Okay.

Posted by: The Barrel at May 28, 2017 12:39 AM (+GtGJ)

352 A Barrel roll is when you're shooting for italics, and you toss a bold over all the comments.

Posted by: an indifferent penguin at May 28, 2017 12:40 AM (+MPEM)

353 a part of me feels like he might just be damaged goods.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 27, 2017 11:59 PM (smD62)


Part of me feels like he isn't the only one.

Please find someone who loves you, not someone you have to fix.

You deserve that, you do not need to keep trying to work at coercing someone into it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:40 AM (DHiRx)

354 It's the new age of online dating my dear.

There are some people who go years before meeting their significant other, one I think I saw as much a 6 or 7 years before they met. Which, that is something I cannot imagine. That is just way too long to wait before meeting.

Also, it's not entirely without precedent. In the 1800s or even early 1900s, people met and corresponded via postal mail and fell in love before meeting each other. Some never even met. Shop Around the Corner is an example.

I'm not saying it's common. It's not....it's very uncommon. But, you can't say that it NEVER happens.
Posted by: Tickled Pink at May




has nothing to do with Internet dating. do not presume to lecture me on anything dating.

my dating and courtships were epic in scope and scale. there was nothing similar to this nonsense.

further, the kids who use Internet dating do it to expedite the process, not prevent it.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (cPsPa)

355 @329

Crap, now I feel really bad about getting some cute clothes at a Memorial Day sale.

@339

Lol. I'm not avoiding anything. There is nothing to avoid. I live in a small town. The good ones are married. The single ones are messes.

Further, there isn't really anything to do here that I avoid. Unless you mean going to the bars. I go to the grocery store. I go to church. I used to go to the gym. Trust me, I would have LOVED to meet a geographically available mail, and certainly was not avoiding it. It didn't happen.

So, here we are.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (smD62)

356 Shit. Okay.

Posted by: The Barrel at May 28, 2017 12:39 AM (+GtGJ)

I knew you had it in you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (XUcIQ)

357 Remembrance Day in Canada is very solemn. It's always on November 11, regardless of day of the week. Very few businesses are open. Even non-religious folk go to memorial services. Heck, even on the local sports talk station, at 11:00 there was a moment of silence followed by a reading of "In Flanders Fields."

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (GsAUU)

358 It's the new age of online dating my dear.

There are some people who go years before meeting their significant other, one I think I saw as much a 6 or 7 years before they met. Which, that is something I cannot imagine. That is just way too long to wait before meeting.

ONE is a rather poor sample size.

Um, no, years is rather RARE.

Nearly everybody wants to meet up at some point to decide if it's worth carrying on. Because if you wait months/years then meet and it doesn't fly, look at all that time you wasted.

A friend was gonna wait 6 months to meet a guy. That was too long. Need to find out from her if they ever met.

When I was in Detroit I tried with a chick in Rochester, New York. We only waited a few weeks. Waiting months/years is typically pointless.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (Jcg9Q)

359 Male, not mail

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:42 AM (smD62)

360 Not me, 20 miles max, might have something to do with my perpeptual single status.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:22 AM (1L9V9)

I once gave 800 miles round trip a shot. It was a disaster.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 12:43 AM (Jcg9Q)

361 My father died, age 86, 2 years ago May 25 (which was Memorial Day). He's inurned in Arlington. (That means his ashes are in a little, brick-shaped urn in a "locker" in a wall in Arlington. Still....) We had a little family/close-friends ceremony. We had had a bit of a contentious relationship but I reached out to him when I found out, a few years earlier, that he had started suffering from what we would learn was Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. Awful, absolutely awful, disease. Anyway, I couldn't hold back the tears during the service, and man, when a trumpeter or bugler plays Taps, wow. That is one seriously onomatopoeiac tune.

Posted by: SFGoth at May 28, 2017 12:44 AM (KAi1n)

362 Blowing the Margins.

Yeah let's not look that up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 12:44 AM (d4e3K)

363 For Tickled Pink being a moronette I'd make an exception to the 20 mile rule.

Knowing right up front that someone isn't a libtard is major bonus points.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:46 AM (1L9V9)

364 362 Blowing the Margins.

Yeah let's not look that up.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 12:44 AM (d4e3K)

You're not the boss of me!

(searches Urban Dictionary)

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 12:46 AM (rJUlF)

365 For Tickled Pink being a moronette I'd make an exception to the 20 mile rule.

Knowing right up front that someone isn't a libtard is major bonus points.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May



Do not float that stuff out there.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:47 AM (cPsPa)

366 Funeral scene from Gardens of Stone still gets me after all these years:

https://youtu.be/Q6GIeBlKx2Q

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:47 AM (GsAUU)

367 Lol. I'm not avoiding anything. There is nothing to avoid. I live in a small town. The good ones are married. The single ones are messes.

Further, there isn't really anything to do here that I avoid. Unless you mean going to the bars. I go to the grocery store. I go to church. I used to go to the gym. Trust me, I would have LOVED to meet a geographically available mail, and certainly was not avoiding it. It didn't happen.

So, here we are.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (smD62)

You have studiously ignored my suggestion to volunteer at USO or a VA hospital. I seriously doubt there is any small town in a Midwest State more than a hundred miles from a larger center with a VA hospital or a military base with a USO presence. If you are prepared to hop on a plane and fly for eight hours to Paris to meet some emotionally fragile young man, why won't you hop in a car and drive for an hour and half to meet some real good men?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:47 AM (XUcIQ)

368 Knowing right up front that someone isn't a libtard is major bonus points.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:46 AM (1L9V9)


Indeed. I wish I had some success in that area, but so far, no.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 12:47 AM (rJUlF)

369 Posted by: SouthTexas at May 28, 2017 12:32 AM (Elnfu)

Amen!

We will have a cookout Monday afternoon, but we were/will be at the cemetery each morning this weekend, fo various ceremonies or duties we cherish.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:48 AM (DHiRx)

370 I would have LOVED to meet a geographically available mail, and certainly was not avoiding it. It didn't happen.

So, here we are.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:41 AM (smD62)

Ok, so now you've met a geographically UNavailable male.

How's that any better?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 12:48 AM (Jcg9Q)

371



the margin sisters indeed.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:48 AM (cPsPa)

372 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:19 AM (1L9V9)

Hello, Lurker!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:49 AM (DHiRx)

373 She's a big teaser
I only see her
Very occasionally
She's leading me on
She's living dangerously
It's easy to see
She's making a fool out of me
She's a big teaser

Posted by: ill consequence at May 28, 2017 12:49 AM (6qmBU)

374 @358

I have read /seen some 2 or 3 years, 5 years, whatever. It was a bigger sample size than One....was just giving an extreme example.

Listen, I agree with you....years seems bizarre to me. I know I couldn't do it.

For me....it would be 6 months from beginning to meeting. So...about 4 months from now. And, even then, it feels like forever.

If I met someone online nearby, like within 2 or 3 hours of me....I would want to meet much, much quicker, so as to not waste my time.

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:49 AM (smD62)

375 You have studiously ignored my suggestion to volunteer at USO or a VA hospital. I seriously doubt there is any small town in a Midwest State more than a hundred miles from a larger center with a VA hospital or a military base with a USO presence. If you are prepared to hop on a plane and fly for eight hours to Paris to meet some emotionally fragile young man, why won't you hop in a car and drive for an hour and half to meet some real good men?
--

This is actually a really good idea.

Posted by: shibumi at May 28, 2017 12:50 AM (aT+Bx)

376 >>>Male, not mail

Posted by: Tickled Pink at May 28, 2017 12:42 AM (smD62) <<<



Aww, damn.

Posted by: Cliff Claven at May 28, 2017 12:50 AM (+MPEM)

377 Do not float that stuff out there.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:47 AM (cPsPa)

Didn't mean to be lurid. What do you mean?

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:50 AM (1L9V9)

378 "My father died, age 86, 2 years ago May 25 (which was Memorial Day). He's inurned in Arlington."

I thank him for his service. And give consolation for your loss.

My Dad is 87 (Navy) and I should probably be more grateful that he is still with me.

Posted by: X-ray at May 28, 2017 12:52 AM (N4gtY)

379
Blowing the Margins.

Yeah let's not look that up.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Something to do with salad.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 28, 2017 12:52 AM (IqV8l)

380 Didn't mean to be lurid. What do you mean?
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May




great big softball waiting to be swatted.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:53 AM (cPsPa)

381 The downside of cutting the cable: Lost the last 10 minutes of Goodbye Charlie due to weather.

I need to talk to Channel Master to see if I can install their regular antenna amp (I have it) and their super amplifier on the same cable and use an
A and B type switch.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 12:53 AM (6qmBU)

382 * suddenly, a hatch in the floor opens up *

Howdy. Did I miss anything earth-shattering between about comment #100 and #300?

* sidles over to the bar, fixes drink *

* lurks, badly *

Posted by: mindful webworker - return of the at May 28, 2017 12:53 AM (ohWrE)

383 Behold me nobly ignoring the comments about Mme Macron...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:54 AM (DHiRx)

384 yeah, behold yourself, I am not going to get into it with Thor.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:56 AM (cPsPa)

385 Behold me nobly ignoring the comments about Mme Macron...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:54 AM (DHiRx)

She looks like a succubus that's been on short rations for a long time.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:56 AM (XUcIQ)

386 great big softball waiting to be swatted.

Not sure I get it.

Don't know anything about Tickled Pink. If being in Texas is too far away and disqualifies me then done. If being 53 is too old, or too young then disqualified, done. Just putting it out there that I'm single and generally don't date people more than 20 miles away but someone commenting here is worth expanding the radius some.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:57 AM (1L9V9)

387 383 Behold me nobly ignoring the comments about Mme Macron...
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:54 AM (DHiRx)


You mean the perverted skank that made out with her 15 year old student at age 40? And married him?

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 12:57 AM (63QcZ)

388 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:56 AM (cPsPa)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:57 AM (DHiRx)

389 Not sure I get it.

Don't know anything about Tickled Pink. If being in Texas is too far away and disqualifies me then done. If being 53 is too old, or too young then disqualified, done. Just putting it out there that I'm single and generally don't date people more than 20 miles away but someone commenting here is worth expanding the radius some.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May



sorry, can't tell you without swatting it.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 12:58 AM (cPsPa)

390 383 Behold me nobly ignoring the comments about Mme Macron...
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:54 AM (DHiRx)


Bwaaahhhhhh

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:58 AM (hscyr)

391 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 28, 2017 12:56 AM (XUcIQ)

That I agree with wholeheartedly, but I just don't see where she looks badly dressed for her age, I just do not see it at all.

But I have gone over all that already and won't annoy anyone further!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:59 AM (DHiRx)

392 Buzzion!!!!!! How's the afterlife treating you?0

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 12:59 AM (hscyr)

393 Behold me nobly ignoring the comments about Mme Macron...

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 12:54 AM (DHiRx)
*********************************

It's too easy.
Interesting how many heads of state were there with their "partner". That place is a swirling toilet bowl.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 12:59 AM (6qmBU)

394 Just fine Bebe. :p

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 01:01 AM (63QcZ)

395 Swat me, it will be educational, not too old to learn new tricks.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:01 AM (1L9V9)

396 Mme. Macron looks like Saturn Devouring His Son

https://goo.gl/images/B9meJb

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:01 AM (GsAUU)

397 Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 12:57 AM (63QcZ)

And is still married to him 24 years later?

That also didn't bother me.

And I am very bad about double-standards when it comes to that, because it would have bothered me if HE had been 40 and she 15!


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:02 AM (DHiRx)

398 Crossfire Trail with Tom Selleck. Oh tey.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:02 AM (6qmBU)

399 395 Swat me, it will be educational, not too old to learn new tricks.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:01 AM (1L9V9)

This will not end well Y5

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:02 AM (hscyr)

400 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May

Are you an adventurous sort of man?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:03 AM (DHiRx)

401 397 Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 12:57 AM (63QcZ)

And is still married to him 24 years later?

That also didn't bother me.

And I am very bad about double-standards when it comes to that, because it would have bothered me if HE had been 40 and she 15!


Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:02 AM (DHiRx)


Well you're wrong.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 01:04 AM (63QcZ)

402 Swat me, it will be educational, not too old to learn new tricks.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May




no, it would be swatting your comment and not you. you would not have any displeasure from the swat.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:04 AM (cPsPa)

403 and generally don't date people more than 20 miles away but someone commenting here is worth expanding the radius some.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 12:57 AM (1L9V9)

I've thought the same thing.

What part of Texas?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 01:05 AM (Jcg9Q)

404 This will not end well Y5
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May




heh. does it ever?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:05 AM (cPsPa)

405 Learn me, what is the worst than can happen?

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:05 AM (1L9V9)

406 Learn me, what is the worst than can happen?
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May



well, what if I hurt someone else's feelings?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:06 AM (cPsPa)

407 393 Interesting how many heads of state were there with their "partner". That place is a swirling toilet bowl.
Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 12:59 AM (

Eh, I dunno. I know several married European couples that refer to themselves as partners.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (hscyr)

408 An inevitable outcome.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (6qmBU)

409 This location is hard to describe. It really is in the middle of nowhere not near any town anyone has heard of. A ways out from Abilene.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (1L9V9)

410 Learn me, what is the worst than can happen?
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May




you don not seem to appreciate that you are taking this entirely wrong and misinterpreting all of my comments. no one is criticizing you, simply saying that there was something in your comment that was a softball, for rephrasing, that was very tempting.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:08 AM (cPsPa)

411 I guess I am just confused as to what Teh Horde considers appropriate for une femme d'un certain age.

We laugh at Hillary's pantsuits (I do not personally, I think they work for her), Mme Macron is trying to look too young when she wears a knee length skirt, but Laura Pence looks too grandmotherly in her very modest floor length inauguration gown.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:08 AM (DHiRx)

412 400 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May
Are you an adventurous sort of man?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:03 AM (

This qualifies as masochistic, not adventurous.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:08 AM (hscyr)

413 Eh, I dunno. I know several married European couples that refer to themselves as partners.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy




same sex?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:09 AM (cPsPa)

414 Well you're wrong.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 01:04 AM (63QcZ)

Which surely doesn't surprise you after all these years?!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:09 AM (DHiRx)

415 393 Interesting how many heads of state were there with their "partner". That place is a swirling toilet bowl.
Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 12:59 AM (

Eh, I dunno. I know several married European couples that refer to themselves as partners.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (hscyr)
****************************


Speaking in the context of the Daily Mail's representations. Some were represented as wife or husband others were represented as partners. It read as if they weren't married.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:10 AM (6qmBU)

416 Honestly didn't intend to compose a softball and perhaps are too drunken to see it. An explanation would be educational.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:10 AM (1L9V9)

417 407 393 Interesting how many heads of state were there with their "partner". That place is a swirling toilet bowl.
Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 12:59 AM (

Eh, I dunno. I know several married European couples that refer to themselves as partners.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (hscyr)


What do the men refer to their mistresses as?

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 01:11 AM (63QcZ)

418 Is it AoSHQ Memorial Weekend Lonely Hearts and Dating Advice Service? (50th anniversary of its release!)

Because I've still got a daughter and a son* to pawn off on some suckers looking for decent (or, at least, tolerably less crazy) mates in the swirling cesspool of Availables.



*Of course, they each come with a significant drawback: the mindful webworker as father-in-law.

Posted by: mindful webworker - feet up on the white ottoman at May 28, 2017 01:11 AM (ohWrE)

419 This location is hard to describe. It really is in the middle of nowhere not near any town anyone has heard of. A ways out from Abilene.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (1L9V9)

Just curious. I'm near Ft. Worth.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 01:11 AM (Jcg9Q)

420 well, what if I hurt someone else's feelings?

Other people have feelings? I'm gonna need some time to process this new information.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 01:12 AM (IcT7t)

421 411 I guess I am just confused as to what Teh Horde considers appropriate for une femme d'un certain age.

We laugh at Hillary's pantsuits (I do not personally, I think they work for her), Mme Macron is trying to look too young when she wears a knee length skirt, but Laura Pence looks too grandmotherly in her very modest floor length inauguration gown.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:08 AM (DHi

My problem is she looks like a schlub. Crappy posture, inappropriate facial expressions. Everything about her looks wrong in those pictures. Then factorcin that's she standing next to super classy Melania...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:12 AM (hscyr)

422 "What do the men refer to their mistresses as?"

Ass ettes?

Runs and hides.

Posted by: X-ray at May 28, 2017 01:13 AM (N4gtY)

423 413 same sex?

Nope. Good old fashioned heteros.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:14 AM (hscyr)

424 Had a hilarious cab ride once from DFW airport. Would rather fly from Abilene but those flights just connect at DFW anyway so why bother. The cab driver was flabbergasted, couldn't believe anyone lived out here. Had to draw him a map to get back to the interstate.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:16 AM (1L9V9)

425 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:12 AM (hscyr)

She looked to me as if she were teetering on a heel higher than her normal comfort zone! I can't say as I noticed her facial expressions, but none among us is going to be our best standing next to Melania.

In fact I bet there was some jockeying among the other women as to who had to do so that the press studiously ignored.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:16 AM (DHiRx)

426

Yeah, just wait until we have gay-married heads of state. I imagine that will happen before long. I'm trying to think of amusing terms we might have for them.... First X......

I actually did a double take on a caption for some photo somewhere -- it wasn't the Daily Mail, but some other rag. Queen Mathilde was showing Melania and the others around, and there was one with Mathilde, Melania, and some other woman. There was some omission in the text and it looked like it said the woman was Queen Mathilde's *wife*.

So just imagine when the royals go gay. Man oh man is that going to screw up the title and style system.

What do you call a King's twink? A Queen? Somehow, I don't think that would go over well....

Now, how fun with some possible royal gay titles. The Duke of .....

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 01:17 AM (8O3HH)

427 Because I've still got a daughter and a son* to pawn off on some suckers looking for decent (or, at least, tolerably less crazy) mates in the swirling cesspool of Availables.

Go on...

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 01:17 AM (rJUlF)

428 424 Had a hilarious cab ride once from DFW airport. Would rather fly from Abilene but those flights just connect at DFW anyway so why bother. The cab driver was flabbergasted, couldn't believe anyone lived out here. Had to draw him a map to get back to the interstate.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:16 AM (1L9V9)

--I friggin' hate DFW. A couple of times experimented and flew out of Tyler and Waco (This was Continental/United, so IAH was the hub, not DFW). A plus of Waco was that the parking was free.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (GsAUU)

429 This has been one awkward ONT...

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (0mRoj)

430 My problem is she looks like a schlub. Crappy posture, inappropriate facial expressions. Everything about her looks wrong in those pictures. Then factorcin that's she standing next to super classy Melania...

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:12 AM (hscyr)
****************************

That's a hit. The pictures of the ladies signing the guest book in Italy. The ladies all look pretty and formal and the mayor is smiling. Macron signing, is sitting in the chair with her elbows on the table leaning over the book. Also in other pictures she is always the one who does not belong.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (6qmBU)

431 ...on second thought, maybe not. Having doubts lately that I'm even boyfriend material.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (rJUlF)

432 English historians tend to call the King's boy toys his 'favourites'. Like Piers Gaveston, Eddie Two's BFF.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 01:20 AM (6FqZa)

433 Had to draw him a map to get back to the interstate.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:16 AM (1L9V9)

Lol, sounds like someplace I'd like to live.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 01:21 AM (Jcg9Q)

434 This location is hard to describe. It really is in the middle of nowhere not near any town anyone has heard of. A ways out from Abilene.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:07 AM (1L9V9)



Balmorhea? Menard?

There are more than few Texicans here amongst Teh Horde, y'know.

But the 'ette in question, sir, is of an unsually high standard and quality.

Do ensure that you are worthy to the quest?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 01:22 AM (v5iqM)

435 on second thought, maybe not. Having doubts lately that I'm even boyfriend material.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (rJUlF)

Probably too young anyways.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 01:22 AM (Jcg9Q)

436 Good night, everyone. Hope the rest of your weekend is good.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 01:22 AM (rJUlF)

437 Night all - "Hiru no Tsuki"

https://youtu.be/Bz1508RBx2w

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 28, 2017 01:23 AM (d4e3K)

438 Also in other pictures she is always the one who does not belong.
Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (6qmBU)


Yea well, when you get the best looking boy, women tend to react this way, especially when they can't figure out how you managed it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:23 AM (DHiRx)

439 Balmorhea? Menard?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 01:22 AM (v5iqM)

Save big money at Menard's!

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:24 AM (GsAUU)

440
Posted by: Captain Whitebread at May 28, 2017 01:19 AM (rJUlF)

Oh, dear Captain, of course you are!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:24 AM (DHiRx)

441 I'm just going to assume 53 is too damn old and tell all you kids to get off my lawn.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:24 AM (1L9V9)

442 Speaking of the swirling cesspool of Availables:

Captain Whitebread: ....Go on...

Heh -- Cap'n, I'd've thought you'd seen me mention this before.

Presumably you're not interested in my son.

The daughter is mble 29 (of course), occasional AoS commenter, ballet dancer, Constitutional thinker. Makes great sandwiches. Further resume, deposit 10¢.

Any potential suitor must be willing to accept me as absolute monarch of the family. Like I said, serious drawbacks. *waves back-scratcher imperiously*

Posted by: mindful webworker - inexplicably at May 28, 2017 01:25 AM (ohWrE)

443 Lurking Moron.

My lawyer will, on Tuesday, serve you with the requeiste papers to remove you from MY lawn.

Ya f'kn whippersnapper.

With that, I'm off to the snooze of thee olde.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 28, 2017 01:27 AM (v5iqM)

444 Edward II might be interested in your son, but he's... not available.

Posted by: queen isabella at May 28, 2017 01:28 AM (6FqZa)

445
Found it. Mitterand. Wife, mistress, and illegitmate daughter (mistress was the mother) all up there standing first at the casket, along with the legitimate children.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 01:28 AM (8O3HH)

446 'Night, Jim!

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:29 AM (GsAUU)

447 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:24 AM (1L9V9)

You will assume no such thing.

Perhaps for Pink, whom I believe to be rising 17, but certainly not for several 'ettes.

What are your hobbies and passions, if I may ask?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:29 AM (DHiRx)

448 Found it. Mitterand. Wife, mistress, and illegitmate daughter (mistress was the mother) all up there standing first at the casket, along with the legitimate children.
Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 01:28 AM (8O3HH)

--And the French are mostly . . . degage about such arrangements.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:30 AM (GsAUU)

449 can't figure out how you managed it!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:23 AM (DHiRx)
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She's the first lady she should know how to conduct herself and if she doesn't she should learn.

I don't care how old she is or that it's a May December marriage.

We've had 8 years of senseless slop and I can appreciate the schlub comment.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:31 AM (6qmBU)

450 on second thought, maybe not. Having doubts lately that I'm even boyfriend material.



Posted by: Captain Whitebread
****

Wanders by wondering how the hell I am married (and loving it).

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 28, 2017 01:32 AM (hVdx9)

451 Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 01:28 AM (8O3HH)

Europeans of a certain class have entirely different standards than we do.

Regardless of how I feel about that, if it didn't bother his wife, I'm not sure why it should concern anyone else and I can think of no reason whatsoever why a daughter should not stand by her father's casket, regardless of her parents' behaviour.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:32 AM (DHiRx)

452 so, anyway, I have been ranting and raving to Mrs.YankeeFifth about the stupid personalized license plates we have been coming across. Today, after grocery shopping we were walking to our car and there was a prius with a bike rack and some liberal bumper stickers right behind our car. I pointed out the stupid personalized license plate and Mrs.YankeeFifth was sounding it out when she suddenly said it aloud and said "what a stupid license plate." She was right by the driver side window of the car which was rolled down and the driver heard every bit of it.

Mrs.YankeeFifth blushed slightly but the guy driving the car turned beet red. wonder how long he has to keep that plate?

Guess I am going to have to set a better example for her.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:33 AM (cPsPa)

453 I personally think the observation that the leaders of France, the UK, Luxembourg (heh, not like the others but singled out for rump wrangling), Italy, and Germany have no children of their own is astute.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:34 AM (GsAUU)

454 *sigh*

Up with our little dog, who is having a t-stom anxiety attack.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 01:34 AM (ZO497)

455 She's the first lady she should know how to conduct herself and if she doesn't she should learn

She was surrounded by other first ladies who ought to have better manners than to ostracize another first lady, if in fact they did.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, though!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:35 AM (DHiRx)

456 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:33 AM (cPsPa)

Break it down for me, please! What on Earth did it say?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:36 AM (DHiRx)

457 She was surrounded by other first ladies who ought to have better manners than to ostracize another first lady, if in fact they did.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, though!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:35 AM (DHiRx)

I wish I had it so good.

Posted by: President of Montenegro at May 28, 2017 01:36 AM (GsAUU)

458 Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:29 AM (DHiRx)

Being out here with the truly dark dark skies astronomy is a natural hobby but after you have seen all the galaxies within a few hundred million light years it gets old.

Smoking meats is a fine hobby having recently discovered the superior taste that pecan wood produces...

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:37 AM (1L9V9)

459 Up with our little dog, who is having a t-stom anxiety attack.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 01:34 AM (ZO497)


Oh, the poor baby! Have you tried one of those Thunder Shirts?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:37 AM (DHiRx)

460 Break it down for me, please! What on Earth did it say?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May



It was not anything special. It was just funny that she was two feet from the driver when she declared how stupid it was.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:37 AM (cPsPa)

461 you know, having the caps back in my nic is weird.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:39 AM (cPsPa)

462 Smoking meats is a fine hobby having recently discovered the superior taste that pecan wood produces...
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:37 AM (1L9V9)


[Beavis and Butt-Head laughter]

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:39 AM (GsAUU)

463 Smoking meats is a fine hobby having recently discovered the superior taste that pecan wood produces...
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May




how do you get the splinters out of your tongue?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:40 AM (cPsPa)

464 how do you get the splinters out of your tongue?
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:40 AM (cPsPa)


Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:41 AM (GsAUU)

465 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:37 AM (1L9V9)

On a scale of 1-10, how adventurous would you say you are?

By which I think I mean spontaneous and willing to say, decide to take a road trip on relatively short notice? (All circumstances being conducive, I mean)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:42 AM (DHiRx)

466 Don't laugh about splinters, we had hamburgers last weekend and the crazy cat lady next door was the lucky winner to get a steel wire from the grill brush in hers. I've heard of people having major medical issues from swallowing that kind of shit.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:43 AM (1L9V9)

467 this thread is considerably slower that yesterdays. Maybe L'Elle cold give us an update on her latest steampunk cattle skull sextoy purchase from ed gein's surplus porn warehouse?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:43 AM (cPsPa)

468 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:37 AM (cPsPa)

Yes but I want to know what it said!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:43 AM (DHiRx)

469 Captain Whitebread #450: on second thought, maybe not. Having doubts lately that I'm even boyfriend material.

Me, too, y' big dumb lug. What a downer-boy.

My daughter knows I've talked her up on here, now and then - she respects the Moron-and-ettes horde a lot, as I do. Maybe I shouldn't be talking about her here, as I do, but...

But I mention this because, she's older, looking for solid, but fed up with the chase, tired of the crazies and the lefties and the jus-wanna-hook-ups. Just because she was serious about holy matrimony doesn't mean her ex-husband was. It's hard out there for serious people.

Sound familiar? I read it all the time here on the blog.

/serious mode off

Hey, think the Cubs can make it two in a row?

Posted by: mindful webworker - incredibly at May 28, 2017 01:44 AM (ohWrE)

470 On a scale of 1-10, how adventurous would you say you are?

By which I think I mean spontaneous and willing to say, decide to take a road trip on relatively short notice? (All circumstances being conducive, I mean)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May




you setting him up with tickeledpink or you want to give Thor another chance to give someone a thumping?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:44 AM (cPsPa)

471 On a scale of 1-10, how adventurous would you say you are?

There is a solar eclipse in August, considering a road trip to the zone of totality (Nebraska). Seriously on the fence about that one. Just 7 years from now there will be another solar eclipse that goes right thru Texas close to home.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:46 AM (1L9V9)

472 YankeeFifth #467: this thread is considerably slower that yesterdays...

No kidding. I'm actually keeping up with this one.

I have a feeling tomorrow night may be the new memorable Memorial thread.

Posted by: mindful webworker - hystorically at May 28, 2017 01:47 AM (ohWrE)

473 466 Don't laugh about splinters, we had hamburgers last weekend and the crazy cat lady next door was the lucky winner to get a steel wire from the grill brush in hers. I've heard of people having major medical issues from swallowing that kind of shit.
Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:43 AM (1L9V9)

--LMAO

Okay, forget about the missed joke. Earlier today I mentioned the show Monsters Inside Me. A bristle from a grill brush was one of the rare culprits in that show which were inanimate objects.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:48 AM (GsAUU)

474 No kidding. I'm actually keeping up with this one.

I have a feeling tomorrow night may be the new memorable Memorial thread.
Posted by: mindful webworker - hystorically at May




well, it is a conundrum. this one is slower, but damn if we do not have quality! the ratio of high quality, top flight, upper crust ettes, to schlubs is far better than we deserve.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:49 AM (cPsPa)

475 Sound familiar? I read it all the time here on the blog.

I am a natural-born matchmaker and I cannot tell you how insane it drives me that these people do not try and contact one another.

She has already missed out on ThatHalfrican who is a gorgeous young man, but I am wondering about our beloved Slap

And Montana seems like a really excellent place for an adventure, and I don't know why Miley might not like to go out, say, fly-fishing there. Fly fishing can be very adventurous.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:49 AM (DHiRx)

476 She was surrounded by other first ladies who ought to have better manners than to ostracize another first lady, if in fact they did.

Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, though!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:35 AM (DHiRx)
*************************

Yeah, I think we mostly agree but are talking past each other. I don't know anything about what went on between the ladies. My negative response to her is that her stature, as my illustration of her signing the guest book with the posture of a child, was not that of a first lady or in any way professional.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:50 AM (6qmBU)

477 On a scale of 1-10, how adventurous would you say you are?
****

1. Absolutely a 1.
Did I mention 1?

Posted by: Tilikum Killer Assault Whale at May 28, 2017 01:50 AM (hVdx9)

478 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:44 AM (cPsPa)

My continuous use of the word adventure should be a sufficient clue for a man of your intelligence.

I'm sure buzzion knows exactly what I'm getting at!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:51 AM (DHiRx)

479 I am a natural-born matchmaker and I cannot tell you how insane it drives me that these people do not try and contact one another.

She has already missed out on ThatHalfrican who is a gorgeous young man, but I am wondering about our beloved Slap

And Montana seems like a really excellent place for an adventure, and I don't know why Miley might not like to go out, say, fly-fishing there. Fly fishing can be very adventurous.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May




yeah, sure why don't you use your matchmaking superpowers to funnel these morons to VEGAS, dear lady? What the hell, lights, food, strippers, booze, topped off with a swing over to the little chapel on the strip to get maried by elivs and ike turner.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:52 AM (cPsPa)

480 G'night everyone.

Last two nights of interrupted sleep are catching up to me. Hoping for one good one this weekend.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at May 28, 2017 01:52 AM (IcT7t)

481 Nite nite blanco. I'm fading as well

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2017 01:54 AM (hscyr)

482 YankeeFifth: ...the ratio of high quality, top flight, upper crust ettes, to schlubs is far better than we deserve.

That would be anything above a negative number.

** #NOMATH!# **

Posted by: mindful webworker - ette cetera at May 28, 2017 01:54 AM (ohWrE)

483 Damn

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:54 AM (cPsPa)

484

Sorry, I apparently missed posting something, so that Mitterand thing appeared to come out of the blue. Someone had mentioned mistresses, and I asked which one was it where the head of state's wife and the mistress were there at the funeral.

I apparently did not hit post. So I was answering a question that had I failed to actually ask here.

And apparently Mitterand's wife had her on lover on the side as well. So she really didn't give a rip at all.

Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 01:55 AM (8O3HH)

485 I'm just going to assume 53 is too damn old and tell all you kids to get off my lawn.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 01:24 AM (1L9V9)

You made a whole bunch of us laugh with that, kid.

: )

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 01:55 AM (Jcg9Q)

486 Night Blanco Basura

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:55 AM (cPsPa)

487 Night Bebe's

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:56 AM (cPsPa)

488 That would be anything above a negative number.

** #NOMATH!# **
Posted by: mindful webworker - ette cetera at May




heh

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:57 AM (cPsPa)

489 Tammy al-Thor #475: I am a natural-born matchmaker and I cannot tell you how insane it drives me that these people do not try and contact one another....

Doesn't always work, but don't stop trying. Matchmakers are invaluable. People don't know what they want, or who's right for them, nor how to say yes to a good deal. People will make the worst choices.

Matchmakers are heaven's agents.

Posted by: mindful webworker - make me a math at May 28, 2017 01:58 AM (ohWrE)

490 Well, guess I am off too. Methlab is giving me that look again, the one that says I would like to go outside and take care of some things then have you rub me down while I go to sleep.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:58 AM (cPsPa)

491 I suppose it beats being married TO Ike Turner. . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 28, 2017 01:59 AM (6FqZa)

492 Night MissTammy

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 28, 2017 01:59 AM (cPsPa)

493 Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 01:50 AM (6qmBU)

Well, let's be honest here, she's a scrawny little thing, trying to balance on 3 inch heels! Which is to your point, of course.

I'm just astonished at how much of a beating she's taking here; I didn't think she looked that bad, but obviously I am in the absolute minority!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:59 AM (DHiRx)

494 Night everyone

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 28, 2017 02:00 AM (cPsPa)

495 Tammy al-Thor #475: I am a natural-born matchmaker and I cannot tell you how insane it drives me that these people do not try and contact one another....

How's your cousin doing?

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 02:00 AM (Jcg9Q)

496 475 I am a natural-born matchmaker and I cannot tell you how insane it drives me that these people do not try and contact one another.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:49 AM

I'm not in need of a matchmaker at present, but...I'll keep this in mind, just in case I do in the future, if you don't mind.

You like serious challenges and/or lost causes, yes? XD

Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:00 AM (q1+kD)

497 I'm just astonished at how much of a beating she's taking here; I didn't think she looked that bad, but obviously I am in the absolute minority!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:59 AM (DHiRx)

--She's creepy. Looks like a dementor or something.

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 02:01 AM (GsAUU)

498 454 *sigh*

Up with our little dog, who is having a t-stom anxiety attack.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 01:34 AM (ZO497)


Same here. Not really an anxiety attack, but is building a bunker under the bed to ride the storm out.

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at May 28, 2017 02:02 AM (gqTYw)

499 Posted by: mindful webworker - make me a math at May 28, 2017 01:58 AM (ohWrE)

Can you give us an idea of how much past 29 your daughter might be?

'Cause 29 would be nice, but probably too young.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 02:02 AM (Jcg9Q)

500 Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 28, 2017 01:52 AM (cPsPa)

Funds, lack of vacation time at work, and worry about being too fat/bald/old, etc.

The first two are legit reasons, the other is the biggest hurdle while the last is the least important and most compelling one.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:02 AM (DHiRx)

501 Well, let's be honest here, she's a scrawny little thing, trying to balance on 3 inch heels! Which is to your point, of course.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:59 AM (DHiRx)
****************************

You're confusing me with somebody else.
I have no words about her dress, her size or her age. I've been quite clear about my negative thought about her.

Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 02:03 AM (6qmBU)

502 Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:00 AM (q1+kD)

Please do!

Are you the same Erik with the lovely pet(s)?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:04 AM (DHiRx)

503 fat/bald/old

I was thinking about changing my nick if I'm going to lurk less and that seems to fit.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:05 AM (1L9V9)

504 Posted by: gNewt at May 28, 2017 02:03 AM (6qmBU)

Oh good lord, I'm sorry! It's way past time for me to go to sleep.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:05 AM (DHiRx)

505 Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 02:00 AM (Jcg9Q)

They got married.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:06 AM (DHiRx)

506 Are you the same Erik with the lovely pet(s)?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:04 AM

I am not, sorry. Just a lurker who doesn't post much, and only posts on the ONT.

Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:06 AM (q1+kD)

507 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:05 AM (1L9V9)



A man with a fantastic sense of humor and mad smoker skillz need not worry about any of those things!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:07 AM (DHiRx)

508 Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May




erik the read is a much better nic

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 28, 2017 02:08 AM (cPsPa)

509 Country Boy: Can you give us an idea of how much past 29 your daughter might be?
'Cause 29 would be nice, but probably too young.


Hah! You age-ist!

Well, that would be telling; ladies' ages and all.

But if you'll haul out your history of America and calculator, she was born the summer after Reagan took office.

Posted by: mindful webworker - finger abacus at May 28, 2017 02:08 AM (ohWrE)

510 Posted by: publius(not Breitbart publius) at May 28, 2017 01:55 AM (8O3HH)

Oh gosh yes, neither cared about the others' peccadilloes. They have much different ideas about that sort of thing. I couldn't live like that, but their expectations are different going in to marriage, I think. Discretion is the key.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:12 AM (DHiRx)

511 But if you'll haul out your history of America and calculator, she was born the summer after Reagan took office.

Posted by: mindful webworker - finger abacus at May 28, 2017 02:08 AM (ohWrE)

Ah, gotcha.

I could keep up, but I doubt anybody that age would want me anymore.

And with that, I must call it a night.

Nite all.

Posted by: Country Boy at May 28, 2017 02:13 AM (Jcg9Q)

512 Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:06 AM (q1+kD)

Oh that's okay! I just wondered if you were the same person.

How old are you?

Damn I am blunt this evening. I don't mean to sound so rude, but I have been, all over the joint tonight.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:14 AM (DHiRx)

513 Fat: well at 5'10 and 220 I'm not thin. Blessed with the metabolism to eat whatever I want without appearing on the half ton people show. These days I'm learning why old people get skinny. There are days when hunger is insufficient to overcome apathy for cooking.

Bald: I wish. Hair to me is a nuisance, let it go till it bothers me then shave it all off. Used to skydive and the short hair cut was a good thing at 180 MPH.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:15 AM (1L9V9)

514 Oh that's okay! I just wondered if you were the same person.

How old are you?

Damn I am blunt this evening. I don't mean to sound so rude, but I have been, all over the joint tonight.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:14 AM

No worries! I'm 37. But some days I only feel 137.

Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:15 AM (q1+kD)

515 Oy, time to sleep, perchance to dream.

Good night good Horde!

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 02:16 AM (GsAUU)

516
too fat/bald/old

Dammit, duct tape is off the camera port again.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 28, 2017 02:18 AM (e1mEI)

517 454 *sigh*

Up with our little dog, who is having a t-stom anxiety attack.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 28, 2017 01:34 AM (ZO497)


This somewhat fascinates me. I wonder what gives dogs that anxiety? Always had dogs growing up and my two right now and none of them have ever been the type to freak out about thunder storms. They barely perk up at the thunder and they are prone to spazzing out at any noise outside usually.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 02:18 AM (63QcZ)

518 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:15 AM (1L9V9)

Sounds just fine to me!

Smoker, non-smoker?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:19 AM (DHiRx)

519 A cigar a day keeps the doctor away.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:20 AM (1L9V9)

520 Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:15 AM (q1+kD)

Don't we all.

You let me know if circumstances change, you hear?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:20 AM (DHiRx)

521 This somewhat fascinates me. I wonder what gives dogs that anxiety? Always had dogs growing up and my two right now and none of them have ever been the type to freak out about thunder storms. They barely perk up at the thunder and they are prone to spazzing out at any noise outside usually.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 02:18 AM

My parents' dog gets scared of thunder storms and even just windy days. I guess it thinks something big, mean, and angry is outside...

Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:21 AM (q1+kD)

522 Don't we all.

You let me know if circumstances change, you hear?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:20 AM

I hope it won't be necessary, but I will, thank you.

Very nice of you to offer!

Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:23 AM (q1+kD)

523 >> A cigar a day keeps the doctor away.

That's exactly what Bill said!

Posted by: Monica L. at May 28, 2017 02:23 AM (8O3HH)

524 I made the mistake of getting one of those gadgets that is supposed to suppress barking. In response to any kind of noise the gadget would emit a loud ultrasonic noise.

It took a while to figure out that the noise of thunderstorms would set the thing off. The dog was not frightened by thunderstorms before I tried that thing and it took a few years afterwords before he got back to normal.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:24 AM (1L9V9)

525 bunny-boiler intensity.



Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 11:43 PM (p8ef/)


Posted by: gracepc at May 28, 2017 02:25 AM (OU4q6)

526
521
Nieces big dog (sled dog rescue) was okay with thunder until they were up in the Cascades and got a concurrent flash boom up close. Now it just finds a hole and hides.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 28, 2017 02:26 AM (e1mEI)

527 Country Boy: And with that, I must call it a night.

Never give up. Never surrender.

Good night, folks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - finger abacus at May 28, 2017 02:26 AM (ohWrE)

528 527 Country Boy: And with that, I must call it a night.

Never give up. Never surrender.

Good night, folks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - finger abacus at May 28, 2017 02:26 AM

By Grabthar's Hammer, I should call it a night as well.

Good Night, horde!

Posted by: Erik the Lurker, Deplorable Barbarian at May 28, 2017 02:32 AM (q1+kD)

529 Posted by: SouthTexas at May 28, 2017 12:32 AM (Elnfu)

Good points. Thank you.

One minor quibble is that I always thank vets for their service, regardless of whether it's Memorial Day.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 28, 2017 02:32 AM (nvMvs)

530 It's always the pet thread.

It's always the gun thread.

God bless teh Horde.

Posted by: mindful webworker - afterthought at May 28, 2017 02:32 AM (ohWrE)

531 530 It's always the pet thread.

It's always the gun thread.

God bless teh Horde.
Posted by: mindful webworker - afterthought at May 28, 2017 02:32 AM (ohWrE)


And boobs are always on topic.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 28, 2017 02:48 AM (63QcZ)

532 And Montana seems like a really excellent place for
an adventure, and I don't know why Miley might not like to go out, say,
fly-fishing there. Fly fishing can be very adventurous.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 01:49 AM (DHiRx)

Who's talking about me here?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 28, 2017 02:50 AM (tHwdc)

533 Posted by: Lurking Moron at May 28, 2017 02:20 AM (1L9V9)

Please come back regularly and post!

Seriously!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 28, 2017 02:52 AM (DHiRx)

534 453 I personally think the observation that the leaders of France, the UK, Luxembourg (heh, not like the others but singled out for rump wrangling), Italy, and Germany have no children of their own is astute.
Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 01:34 AM (GsAUU)


Hmmm. I did not sire any children but I assure everyone here that I am 100% straight and enjoy women very, very much.

Sometimes having children just doesn't happen for various reasons. I was born with some internal birth defects "down there" that weren't discovered until age 27 or so. It required several surgeries to correct but I suspect that was the reason I never became a father.

Posted by: Michael the Texan (formerly TEXIT) at May 28, 2017 02:54 AM (nvMvs)

535 *cackle*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 04:08 AM (vRcUp)

536 536th!

Posted by: LGoPs at May 28, 2017 04:41 AM (nGMLA)

537 Meow

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 04:52 AM (vRcUp)

538 Why am I not 50 points ahead? I AM fifty points ahead! I have 50 heads! I AM a golden god!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 05:00 AM (vRcUp)

539 I KILLED THIS THREAD LIKE IT WAS SETH FUCKIN RICH.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 28, 2017 05:05 AM (vRcUp)

540 Poor Seth.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 28, 2017 05:07 AM (tHwdc)

541 Hill, for real......

Columbian enhanced Potato High Test is sooooooo 90's babe.

Provigil and herbally enhanced coconut water is the NOW.

An it's a cough suppressant. Bonus!

But......if only the Tassel would've be to left, and not the right.....well...
Right Wing Tassels, etc.....

Stay $trong

Posted by: Gary Busey's Cocaine Nostalgia at May 28, 2017 05:17 AM (0cO55)

542 Go back to the woods Hillary

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 05:33 AM (Ot7+c)

543 Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 05:33 AM (Ot7+c)

The greatest day in car racing is here.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 28, 2017 05:39 AM (b8+C/)

544 Yes it is, not looking good for Hamilton but you never know.
Ok in Monico you know.
Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at May 28, 2017 05:46 AM (Ot7+c)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 28, 2017 05:47 AM (mpXpK)

546 Why do you think that the Trump campaign would not set up back channel communications with Russia? During WW2, the allies had secret connections with senior German officials. We have the hot line to Russia. The initial communications between the US and North Vietnam were secret. Carter communicated with Iran in secret. Reagan with Iran. The list goes on and it is hardly exhaustive. I see nothing even slightly unusual about a presidential political campaign trying to set up secret connections with Russia. If Hillary did not have such connections I think that she would be incompetent. The vast majority of communications between countries is not done in the public eye. That is good for everyone.

Posted by: Richard at May 28, 2017 07:42 AM (Qkzna)

547 If you haven't read Max Hastings, but you are reading this thread, you should consider it. His two books about the ends of WWII, "Retribution," and "Armageddon," are classics. If you really want to understand the sacrifices made by veterans, to the degree that you can from the comfort of your own home, there are no better books IMHO.

He's as readable as Ambrose.

Posted by: RobM1981 at May 28, 2017 08:52 AM (lV1tZ)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-27-2017 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Coming Attractions


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What's the point of a movie trailer? I think that it's to convince the audience to spend money to see the advertised movie. Not to entertain on its own, although that can be a happy accident of well created trailers, but to promise an experience that will be worth a few dollars and a couple of hours of your time.

How to actually go about that, though, has changed dramatically over time. I'm no expert in movie trailers, but the changes are easy to see if you ever lose yourself in Youtube looking for a decent trailer to Moby Dick. You can find the original trailer below, but, at least for me, it doesn't convince me to see the movie itself.


Show, Don't Tell


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Older movie trailers seem intent on telling the audience that the movie is going to be amazing instead of showing how amazing the movie will be. That's why you get screens emblazoned with words about the size of the production, the cast, the number of extras. They also tended to be a fair bit longer than modern trailers. The Moby Dick trailer is more than three minutes long, while a three-minute-long trailer is actually pretty rare. Below is the trailer for Man of Steel which, no matter your opinion of the movie itself, makes the movie look slick and exciting.


Longer modern trailers are rare, apparently, because of agreements between movie studios and theater chains. Chains don't want long trailers because they want to get as many screening in per day as possible. Their current agreement allows for a movie studio to release one 3-minute trailer per year that the theater is willing to show before a feature film.

But, to take this back to the actual point, compare the two trailers. Moby Dick has a lot of voice over created for the advertisement. It's big language, praising Melville, and using grandiose verbiage to describe Ahab. When dialogue gets played, the sections are longish, and the trailer music even stops at times. It does still show some of the action of the film, but it feels like a film clip set to different music. I'm not judging it, but just pointing out that it's kind of clunky in execution, never really building up to anything, just presenting some stuff in an order. Man of Steel, however, is all about building up to its climax of action, trying to get you worked up and pumped to see the movie.


Technique, Hiding a Lack of Substance?

When I was growing up, the one movie trailer that stood far above the movie that it was selling was the below trailer for The Mummy Returns:


That's exciting. It makes the movie look big, bold, action packed, and a great time at the movies. For those of you who remember the movie itself, though, you got a middling action adventure movie filled with a curious sense of self-importance and a shocking lack of The Rock.

Another one was the below trailer for Alexander, directed by Oliver Stone:


That looks sweeping, epic and engrossing. The movie, though, is a complete mess. It's such a mess that Oliver Stone has come out with two more cuts of the movie, both of which are described as his definitive vision for the film. Hell, not to turn this into a review of the movie, but Val Kilmer is the only one who seems to actually be in a historical epic about Alexander the Great. Angelina Jolie seemed to think that she was in a horror movie.


My Small Contribution

About a year ago, I got a little bored and put together the below trailer for Moby Dick. I offer no comment, but am interested to see what the Horde thinks of it.


So…?

Trailers can be fun. What trailers have you loved but hated the movie? What movies have you loved but hated the trailer? Do you think that you can tell the quality of a movie based on the trailer itself?


Note

TheDolleyMadison and I actually have a babysitter for the night, so I will not be commenting. I'm going to the movie theater! You can't really understand how exciting this is for me.


Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
Baywatch
Drone

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Point Blank

Movies I Saw This Week:
The Jewel of the Nile (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1.5/4) Poster Blurb: "A complete mess that had no idea how to recapture the charm of the original."

Meatballs (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2.5/4) "Hit or miss comedy with a surprisingly sweet core between Bill Murray and the kid."

Knights of Badassdom (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "I've never seen a movie fall apart so thoroughly in its third act before."

Cars 2 [rewatch] (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "Spy fun with cars for kids. Meh, Jr wanted to watch it."


Contact
Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:18 PM




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1 Every time I go to the movies, which isn't often, there's 10-15 minutes of trailers. It's really annoying.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 07:22 PM (0mRoj)

2 Missed it by that () much

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:24 PM (Ot7+c)

3 Trailers for sale or rent.

Posted by: Roger Miller at May 27, 2017 07:24 PM (IqV8l)

4 So which movie are you and Missus Madison seeing?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (NT3RT)

5 Was hoping for some good war movies tonight, meaming right now but not seeing anything.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (Ot7+c)

6 Call me Ishmael.

Posted by: Ishmael at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (ZO497)

7 Call me Dick.

Posted by: Moby Dick at May 27, 2017 07:26 PM (ZO497)

8 Rooms to let, 50 cents

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:26 PM (Ot7+c)

9 The trailers are not bad at the beginning of a movie. Often they are better than the movies themselves or what you are going to see.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (iHjB5)

10 Was hoping for some good war movies tonight, meaming right now but not seeing anything.
Posted by: Skip
-

TCM has been showing them all day.

'Good', of course, is relative.

Posted by: Moby Dick at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (ZO497)

11 What's the point of a movie trailer? I think that it's to convince the audience to spend money to see the advertised movie. Not to entertain on its own, although that can be a happy accident of well created trailers, but to promise an experience that will be worth a few dollars and a couple of hours of your time.

--The South Park episode with the boys enduring a Russell Crowe Fighting TV show just to see a Terrance and Phillip: Asses of Fire 2 trailer was epic.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (GsAUU)

12 Didn't know Moby Dick was a Muslim suicide bomber.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (sdi6R)

13 As a kid my dad listened to that stuff, Kingston Trio, Johnny Cash

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (Ot7+c)

14 I remember seeing the teaser trailer for "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World", which made the movie look like a crappy "Pirates of the Caribbean" knockoff. I thus didn't see the movie in theaters. When I rented the movie, I was blown away, and "Master and Commander" is now one of my favorite films, but somebody in marketing really messed up plugging that movie.

Posted by: TheLowerDepths at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (1WTGm)

15 The trailer for "Prometheus" is a much better experience than the movie itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34cEo0VhfGE

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:28 PM (NT3RT)

16 Surprised this wasn't the Roger Moore thread...

John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:29 PM (XRIvr)

17 Yeah been watching Rock Hudson but that bloom was off long ago. Watched Men at War earlier, had to button up outside stuff and missed the anti war ending. ( looked it up)

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:29 PM (Ot7+c)

18 Sometimes the trailers and ads go on for so long that I momentarily forget which movie I'm seeing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:30 PM (NT3RT)

19 I've seen so many shitty movies recently, I can't even list them all. I've tried to blot them all out of my mind.

Most were Indie "mumblecore" nihilist dramedies that premieres at Sundance or the Toronto Film Festival or some other heebie-jeebie convention.

Overall recommendation: Stay away from modern indies! 95% of them are unwatchable crap, churned out by film-school graduates trained in narcissism and postmodernism and anti-commercialism.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:30 PM (DQ4Fv)

20 I have wished another Master and Commander movie since reading the books.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:31 PM (Ot7+c)

21 10 Was hoping for some good war movies tonight, meaming right now but not seeing anything.
Posted by: Skip
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TCM has been showing them all day.

'Good', of course, is relative.
Posted by: Moby Dick at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (ZO497)

--On Memorial Day itself, TCM will have Kelly's Heroes, Where Eagles Dare, The Dirty Dozen, and Destination Tokyo.

Monday morning AMC will have Midway.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:31 PM (GsAUU)

22 Less Moby, MORE DICK!!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at May 27, 2017 07:31 PM (oVJmc)

23 John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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What channel?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 07:32 PM (ZO497)

24 "Meatballs" is surprisingly rewatchable. Like a lot of comedies of that era, it's a collection of sketches, without a real plot as such. Yeah there is a villain... sort of... the rich kids in their snooty camp for toffs. But they're just sort of there, not really driving the plot. Contrast with Revenge Of The Nerds or even Animal House.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (XRIvr)

25 Most trailers are bad. Some are good.

And sometimes the good trailer is for a movie that will never exist.

Here's a link to the classic "Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern" trailer from several years ago -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hTiRnqnvDs

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (deapv)

26 "What channel?"

Er... your home channel, if you have a DVD player, and the DVDs

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (XRIvr)

27 I was even playing Boccherini when I finished a book
https://youtu.be/8dmWAve3Pvk

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:33 PM (Ot7+c)

28 "I offer no comment, but am interested to see what the Horde thinks of it."

Not enough cabin boy.

Posted by: Hard Asteae at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (BO/km)

29 Fun fact -

Quite frequently when a trailer is released, the music for the movie still isn't done yet. So an unrelated musical piece is used for the trailer.

The soundtrack from 'The Rocketeer' is something that tends to get reused quite a bit in movie trailers.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (deapv)

30 Hah, or the trailer for the Rob Ford movie, starring Chris Farley

There needs to be that movie

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (XRIvr)

31 Some comedies are bad, but the trailers have all the funny parts in them.

I have heard that Ted has all the Funny in its trailer.

I have never seen Home Alone either, and I think the same goes for it.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (GsAUU)

32 a few years ago people remade trailers to movies for surprise or comic effect. someone did a great reboot of kubrick's "the shining" as a family film of love and father/son conciliation. an amazing piece of work, very professional.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 07:35 PM (WTSFk)

33 junior: the Houston Browncoats got to see Serenity some months before tickets went on sale. The movie was almost all there. It was missing the soundtrack and a few CGI bits in the middle (one of River's dream-sequences IIRC).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:36 PM (XRIvr)

34 Saw the trailer for Dunkirk when went to Hacksaw Ridge, made me want to see it

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:37 PM (Ot7+c)

35 Trailers I loved and hated the movie... THAT would probably be Baywatch, if I wanted to watch the movie, which I don't. The trailers made it look like what I expect of a Baywatch movie: the Rock and bikinis.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (XRIvr)

36 This article has links to a number of trailers, and concerns itself with the pacing of the edits rather than the overall length. Of particular note is the insane number of cuts in the trailer for Dr. Strangelove.
https://www.wired.com/2013/06/online-trailers-cuts

Posted by: Western Slope Mope at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (WrMht)

37 The trailer for President Barky teased me with expansive racial healing and American pride.

President Barky: The Buggering instead delivered racial pandering, Divide and Conquer, and Ferguson and Baltimore riots.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (GsAUU)

38 I don't like trailers that show all the best scenes of a movie. Also Greg Allman is kaput.

Posted by: freaked at May 27, 2017 07:39 PM (BO/km)

39 It seems The Rock is often in trailers that don't make for decent movies. But I *did* enjoy The Scorpion King.

Despite it being a badly-edited mess. Rogue One was also a badly-edited mess, but still enjoyable, IMO. This usually happens when the movie is Salvageable Shite; sometimes editors can actually salvage it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:40 PM (XRIvr)

40 32 a few years ago people remade trailers to movies for surprise or comic effect. someone did a great reboot of kubrick's "the shining" as a family film of love and father/son conciliation. an amazing piece of work, very professional.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 07:35 PM (WTSFk)

--A classic:

https://youtu.be/u1kqqMXWEFs

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (GsAUU)

41 That mummy's girlfriend is hawt.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zLDYs)

42 I've never seen a movie based on a trailer ... unless there's some super hot chick in the trailer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zc3Db)

43 Next in my Netflix Queue:
Point Blank

++++

I checked that one out at IMDB and the description sounded familiar. Sure enough, the Mel Gibson flick, Payback, is a remake of Point Blank.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 07:42 PM (R+30W)

44 I'm peddling a screenplay I've got for a dynamite trailer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:42 PM (oVJmc)

45 I just bought an R-Pod travel trailer .. oh wait ..nevermind.

Posted by: Billy Vera at May 27, 2017 07:43 PM (e3l1B)

46 @42 I've never seen a movie based on a trailer ... unless there's some super hot chick in the trailer.
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Occasionally I'll see a trailer for a movie that I might have an interest in, but that I'd never heard of before. It's pretty rare, though. I think the last time that happened was for the documentary "Last Days in Vietnam".

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:44 PM (deapv)

47 Go to the Drive-In. Who cares what the movie is? IYKWIMAITYD!

Posted by: Very Undude at May 27, 2017 07:44 PM (2X7pN)

48 The teaser for Superman Returns hits the nostalgia harder than any other. I didn't know that John Williams could give me an erection, no homo.

https://youtu.be/4CuJ08nwJpA

The two Superman movies (and the recent Star Wars movies) were far superior in cleverness and execution than the property they draw from. To an audience that is much less impressed. The scenes where he saves a 747, or lifts an island while being stabbed, would have made a 1980 audience shit a brick.

I don't know what it means. You could argue that there are not going to be huge cultural hits anymore at the cinema. Nor in 30 years are they going to bring back something we loved as a kid.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 07:44 PM (VdICR)

49
In prehistoric times trailers were it. How else could one see what the new movies were about. Nobody left their seat until the trailers were finished.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:46 PM (6qmBU)

50 Magic trailer (actually TV commercial, IIRC):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkx07HYylo

So shocking at the time I still remember it 40 years later.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:46 PM (oVJmc)

51 Crap. More storms headed this way. I'm starting to mildew. Doesn't auger well for Memorial Day observance either.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 07:47 PM (ZO497)

52 Long Long Trailer trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucb9O8q1eOc

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:47 PM (oVJmc)

53 Surprised this wasn't the Roger Moore thread...

John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:29 PM (XRIvr)



I thought we might get a bit of Roger tribute as well. I really wish some station would have run The Saint this weekend

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 07:48 PM (auHtY)

54 ... just looked it up on youtube - it's available as "the shining (happy version)" very funny. in the sidebar there's the likes of forrest gump as a gangster movie and silence of the lambs as a romcom. they play with trailer tropes very professionally.

people are so smart!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 07:48 PM (WTSFk)

55 I inspired The Rain Man.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2017 07:49 PM (GsAUU)

56
A good trailer is like gold. Take this example: Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. The first trailer whets your appetite, tells you that this film is going to be weirdly, and awesomely epic (I love the way they use the silhouette shot of Abe that starts at 90 degrees and slowly turns upright in this trailer).

The second trailer says "here's a standard Hollywood tentpole comic book basket of cliches". Awful, and ordinary. And it does it using largely the same exact video clips as the first trailer. The voiceover kills it.

First trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXulj8Lgcyg

Second trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZp7eBStN1U

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 07:49 PM (quw2O)

57 "Gregory Peck IS Abraham Lincoln!"
TheJamesMadison, I loved your recut of the Moby Dick trailer - much better than the original.

Posted by: Dr Alice at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (LaT54)

58 just looked it up on youtube - it's available as "the shining (happy version)" very funny. in the sidebar there's the likes of forrest gump as a gangster movie and silence of the lambs as a romcom. they play with trailer tropes very professionally.

people are so smart!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp
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Pfft.

Posted by: Hitler Videos at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (ZO497)

59 I'm hoping for a good weather morning Monday, I'm going to ride my bike down to my parents and follow the parade back my way which ends up at the cemetery. It was mostly cancelled except for the fire company that had its own.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (Ot7+c)

60 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 07:47 PM (oVJmc)
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Classic!

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (Sfs6o)

61 Here are some the horrible movies I've seen in the last month. Avoid them all:

A Hologram for the King, with Tom Hanks. Meandering, insulting, plotless, set in Saudi Arabia. Couldn't even finish it. 1.5/10

[b}Goat, with James Franco. Horrible, anti-man feminist jerk-off fantasy about how evil fraternities are. No redeeming features. 1/10

[Zoom, with Alison Pill. Circular "plot": A girl draws a comic book about about a guy who's making a movie about a woman who's writing a novel about a girl who's drawing a comic book...etc. Turns out, there is no such thing as reality! Worse than it sounds -- zero humor. 2/10 ("2" for the sex scenes).

Turks and Caicos, with Bill Nighy. Incomprehensible. Turned out to be "part 2" of a three-part movie -- if you hadn't seen the first one, then then second one makes zero sense. 2.5/10 (decent acting).

The Lobster, with Colin Farrell. Dystopian fantasy about a futuristic hotel where guests get turned into animals. Internally inconsistent, violates all rules of logic and coherence, boring, misadvertised as a comedy. 2/10 (good acting in bit parts).

Digging for Fire, with Orlando Bloom. Infuriating mumblecore anti-comedy about wealthy LA thirty-somethings who do...nothing, ultimately. You just wanted all the characters to die already. 3/10 (Sam Rockwell is excellent in a cameo.)

Don't ever check out or watch any of these films.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (DQ4Fv)

62 Don't ever check out or watch any of these films.
Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:51 PM (DQ4Fv)

--Thanks, but that's like warning me not to sleep with Lena Dunham.

I was never tempted. :lol;

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 27, 2017 07:53 PM (GsAUU)

63
29 Fun fact -

Quite frequently when a trailer is released, the music for the movie still isn't done yet. So an unrelated musical piece is used for the trailer.

The soundtrack from 'The Rocketeer' is something that tends to get reused quite a bit in movie trailers.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 07:34 PM (deapv)








The climax music from Aliens got re-used in pretty much every action movie trailer from the mid-80s to 2000. To be fair, it's an awesome piece of music.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 07:54 PM (quw2O)

64 /Slow Joe sock

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:54 PM (GsAUU)

65 Damn zombie, that is a lot of hours of your life you're not getting back

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:54 PM (XRIvr)

66 Ooooo, Watters' World will have Jesse hitting the beach talking to skimpily bikinied beach bimbos.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:55 PM (GsAUU)

67 Here's a neat trailer for Blade Runner that gives it a good LA noir feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhJ7Mf2Oxs

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 07:55 PM (NT3RT)

68 Watters is not bad as a Tucker Lite.

Pwning a leftard Zerocare supporter.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:55 PM (GsAUU)

69 Andersonville is on Get TV, this is a long movie 4 hrs. Saw it maybe a year ago thought it was very good. I have a original book from a former prisoner, and read another from a different writer.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:56 PM (Ot7+c)

70 Sunday evening a "Sneak Preview" at the downtown theater was exhibited. You would watch the advertised movie then watch an unreleased movie yea-woooo. At exit the viewers would receive questionnaire cards to review the preview.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:56 PM (6qmBU)

71 Here's my review of "Alien:Covenant" again:



Saw "Alien: Covenant" the other day-


There will be some SPOILERY STUFF so avoid if you haven't seen it and wish to-
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Okay, this iteration of "Alien" still brings the stupid pretty heavily throughout, but-

it doesn't seem quite as stupid because the emphasis this time is on horror action so you aren't given as much time to contemplate the stupid as in "Prometheus" where it was all about the "mystery of human life".

How stupid?

Well, once again they land on a perfect, Earth-like planet, with cultivated Wheat even, and it never occurs to these Space Morons that an Earth-like planet would be loaded with Earth-like variations of viruses, bacteria, protozoa- which would be deadly.

So, they're off once again traipsing around the planet, picking daisies, and dancing the maypole.

At least, throw science a bone here, have a ten second conversation where "the integrated holistic endangerator" shows no pathogens of any consequence in air, soil, or water. Done.

But, that's not all, two of the crew members almost instantly get secretly infected by spitting puffballs.
And suddenly manifest horrible hemorrhagic virus-like symptoms. Almost instantly.

So, of course, they're instantly brought into the ship. Not isolated. Not observed and treated outside. Nope. Into the ship.

Hijinks ensue.

This is not the intelligent "Alien" horror show you were hoping for-

so just consider it a throwback to 1950s sci-fi with everyone wandering around bare-faced in Space Rompers and let it go.

"Alien: Covenant" really is a throwback to something like "House of Dracula" where the creepy dude invites you into his creepy house to do creepy things.....to Space Morons (the bad kind).

One scene still sticks out as the Stupidest Scene in the Entire Alien Series -

the captain after seeing David, the creepy evil cyborg, make kiss-faces to the Oppressive White Xenomorph that just killed one of his crew-

follows David around after seeing how shocked and angry David was that he, the Captain killed the Misogynystic White Xenomorph-

while David is explaining that he has been experimenting on all the life-forms on this planet to develop and improve the Xenophobic White Xenomorph-

and brings the captain into a dark chamber to show him the creepy looking Alien egg-pod thingys as his ultimate version of the Homophobic White Xenomorph-

And the creepy looking pod-dealio opens up it's veiny, slimy Space Labia of Doom and David invites the captain to look inside becuz it's awesome(!)-

And the captain, instead of shooting David, shooting the pods and getting the hell out of there
sez-

"Okey-Doke" and sticks his head in the pod.

You can guess what follows.


Aaaaaanyway, "Alien:Covenant"-

The Good-

Some great action scenes, creepy Alien stuff

The Bad -

Plotting still "Prometheus" quality but you think about it less becuz...great action scenes. Still, enough time between scenes that I was rewriting the movie in my head(not a good sign).

The Meh -

they really missed out on a great horror moment with the big reveal between David and the 2nd in command. Really missed.


Expect, a really well-shot and directed 1950s sic-fi flick mashed up with a 1930s haunted house flick and you'll have a good time.


Oh...and you get to learn that the whole Alien foofaraw, all of it, every bit of it, was caused by-

a cyborg being ordered to pour a cup of tea.

So, don't order your cyborg to pour any Lapsang Souchong.

They hate Lapsang Souchong...

...Orange Pekoe might be okay.

That's the moral of this story.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 07:56 PM (9q7Dl)

72

Alexander was one of the most disturbing and perverted movies ever made. Total trash and creepy.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:57 PM (a6O80)

73 I rented Alexander thought I would like it. It blew chunks. Stopped it after half an hour.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at May 27, 2017 07:57 PM (mpXpK)

74 59 - last year because weather was iffy

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 07:58 PM (Ot7+c)

75 Where is the trailer for Medellin?!?!

Posted by: Billy Walsh at May 27, 2017 07:58 PM (9uYWN)

76 65 Damn zombie, that is a lot of hours of your life you're not getting back
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo/i]

I actually didn't watch most of them all the way through to the end.

The only one I saw all of was "Digging for Fire," because they tricked the viewers into thinking there was a "murder mystery" that was going to be solved at the end. Except, when you get to the end -- they don't solve it! The filmmakers basically admit, "Ah, we was just fuckin' with ya -- we needed a maguffin to trick you into watching the whole movie. There never was a murder. Ha ha! Fooled you!" I almost smashed the DVD in rage.

All the rest of them I gave up somewhere in the middle.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

77 unitalic. Sigh.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (DQ4Fv)

78 So Meals on Wheels is like Planned Parenthood: posing as a standard non-profit charity, but in reality just a de facto government program.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (GsAUU)

79 During the era of TV becoming a thing, old trailers had to advertise the cool features a movie could do TV could not. Vistavision! CinemaScope! In glorious technicolor! I kinda love those. And sweeping epics got more sweeping. It's fun To see the films of that era playing with the format, like how to marry a millionaire and the girl can't help it. Featuring random stuff in the film like full orchestra intros.

Modern films seem so intent on telling you every plot twist so you might think it's interesting enough to go to. Half of the trailers ruin the film now! If there is any "there" there to ruin.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (ZSEpY)

80
Alexander was pornographer Bob Goochyonie's Caligula minus the penetration and compelling story.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:00 PM (a6O80)

81 Heh, Todd Rungren will be on Jesse Watters' show next.

I recall Todd as a favorite of Clrahes Jhnoosn's.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:00 PM (GsAUU)

82 LMAO, Rundgren said the values in his show will offend Trump supporters.

Yeah, I guess not wanting to work and banging on a drum all day are not compatible with Trump supporters.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (GsAUU)

83
78 So Meals on Wheels is like Planned Parenthood: posing as a standard non-profit charity, but in reality just a de facto government program.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (GsAUU)







I've gotten cynical enough that I consider ALL charities and non-profits to be scams designed to hoover up government subsidies and fools' money.

Fisher House is the one exception to that cynicism.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (quw2O)

84 Unbroken 2014 is on FXM, Louis Zamperini's experience as a POW of the Japanese

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (Ot7+c)

85 Never saw Alexander. Was warned off by the reported homoerotisism.

I have managed to bear this heavy burden.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (iHjB5)

86
I hate the name Todd. Never met a Todd worth a damn. Or a Kyle.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:05 PM (a6O80)

87 I've gotten cynical enough that I consider ALL charities and non-profits to be scams designed to hoover up government subsidies and fools' money.

Fisher House is the one exception to that cynicism.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (quw2O)

--I think you can leave overtly pro-life charities off that list as well.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (GsAUU)

88 LMAO, Rundgren said the values in his show will offend Trump supporters.

Let's take Tod's values at his word. We'll break in to his concert, take seats from actual ticket holders, and refuse to leave.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (oVJmc)

89 Alexander was one of the most disturbing and perverted movies ever made. Total trash and creepy.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:57 PM (a6O80)
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I gots to know - why?

I avoided it because I thought Colin Farrell's Irish mug was about as far from Alexander's famous profile as one could get. And I like Colin Farrell.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (NT3RT)

90 The theater - films - widescreen, CinamaScope, 70mm, excellent musical scores with a quality sound system - almost overwhelming, the sights and sounds almost absorbed you. Now the theater is full of kids slipping in bottles of wine who have no comprehension of SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (6qmBU)

91 People my age in my neck of the woods are gushing about Hunt for the Wilderpeople, so it's on the list if films to watch. Is on Hulu. Anyone seen it?

And friends are plotting to see Wonder Woman opening night so I'll do that. Best case scenario is like the first Cap America film, a good superhero + period piece. Bad case scenario is feminist SJW muck. I'm hoping for the former, fingers crossed.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (ZSEpY)

92 Not sure I have met a Todd since high school.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (iHjB5)

93 84 Unbroken 2014 is on FXM, Louis Zamperini's experience as a POW of the Japanese
Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (Ot7+c)

--Pretty good flick.

I like the "Lead, Kindly Light" reference.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (GsAUU)

94 Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.

Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.

The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)

95 Growing up in South Carolina and living in Georgia, The Allman Brothers was one of my favorite groups. Gregg Allman by himself, not so much. Sad to see him go, though.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (zLDYs)

96 80
Alexander was pornographer Bob Goochyonie's Caligula minus the penetration and compelling story.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:00 PM (a6O80)

It's no Nymphomaniac the Director Cut!

Posted by: Billy Walsh at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (9uYWN)

97
I gots to know - why?

I forget now. But Val Kilmer made my skin crawl. He had the look on his face like he wanted to stick his finger in people's butts.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (a6O80)

98 Todd is a protopajama boy. Probably likes pina colada and all that shit.

Posted by: freaked at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (BO/km)

99
85 Never saw Alexander. Was warned off by the reported homoerotisism.

I have managed to bear this heavy burden.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:04 PM (iHjB5)







I couldn't care less about the homo shit, as long as it's not shoved down my throat........errrr, so to speak. If it's an essential part of the story, and not just preaching, then so be it.

But with or without the homo, Alexander is a truly awful, incoherent film.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (quw2O)

100 In a world... where TVs are hi-def and TV shows are filmed with the cinematic quality of The Expanse...

... you're not getting anything from going to a cinema, except for the experience of sitting to the left of a bratty five year old boy and to the right of a passive-aggressive a$$hole who spends the whole movie audibly sighing.

(If you get that experience at home, my condolences.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (XRIvr)

101 Ill Tempered Cur,

There's lots of teasers that are better than trailers. Luc Besson's Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets.

https://youtu.be/NNrK7xVG3PM

George Lucas will be in his bunk.

A teaser is supposed to be baffling and non-talkative. When it does that, it is playing to the strengths of the medium. There are plenty of trailers, and movies, that would be much better with Fury Road amounts of dialogue.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 08:09 PM (VdICR)

102 94 Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.

Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.

The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)

--shibumi, you're in MI . . . no love for Jim Bunning???

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:09 PM (GsAUU)

103 I forget now. But Val Kilmer made my skin crawl. He had the look on his face like he wanted to stick his finger in people's butts.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:08 PM (a6O80)
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I'm Buttman.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:09 PM (NT3RT)

104 Mentioned before saw Todd at Knebworth England 1979

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:10 PM (Ot7+c)

105 Thanks for that review of Alien Covenant, naturalfake. I'm not going to see it after having read your comments on it. I watched the first two Alien movies this week which haven't held up well over time. I don't get why they keeping going with the same story line of letting the infected guy back on the ship. Stupid.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 27, 2017 08:11 PM (Rsi2C)

106
Bunning is mort? That's why he was mentioned?

I thought you were just talking random baseball.
Bunning was a good man.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:11 PM (a6O80)

107 'Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.'

I did. He was from 'round here. The whole town will probably get stupid for a couple of days and him dying will get more attention than Memorial Day.

Posted by: freaked at May 27, 2017 08:12 PM (BO/km)

108 Bunning is mort? That's why he was mentioned?

I thought you were just talking random baseball.
Bunning was a good man.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:11 PM (a6O80)

--I'm glad that at least for today I'm not the slowest Moron.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:12 PM (GsAUU)

109
Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.

The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)








It's really pathetic to see a man trying to hide the fact that he's been musically irrelevant for nearly 40 years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:12 PM (quw2O)

110 Now the theater is full of kids slipping in bottles of wine who have no comprehension of SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP.
Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM

Lol. The only way my sister got through the first Twilight movie was sneaking in s flask o rum to add to the coke she bought at concessions. And we had to take the coke away halfway through because she was leaning on it a BIT too much by then, heh.

We purposely went to it when was cheap and a matinee to heckle if needed, our own MST3K. Girls on dates around us were ticked, but I think their dates were amused.

Normally I'm a patron of perfect politeness in the theatre. But yeah that was a tough film to sit through.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (ZSEpY)

111 During the era of TV becoming a thing, old trailers had to advertise the cool features a movie could do TV could not. Vistavision! CinemaScope! In glorious technicolor! I kinda love those. And sweeping epics got more sweeping. It's fun To see the films of that era playing with the format, like how to marry a millionaire and the girl can't help it. Featuring random stuff in the film like full orchestra intros.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 07:59 PM (ZSEpY)


I don't know about all that. Back then, TVs were the size of fishbowls. The movies were a whole other universe, without any of the CinemaScope sort of stuff. And movies were just much higher quality than anything on TV. I think they were advertising to each other more than to the audience, most of whom couldn't really give a shit about any of that stuff.

Nowadays, most people have TVs that are large enough to get a movie sort of feeling with them (and sound systems) but that is only a very recent development. Of course, these days people seem happy enough to watch movies on a 4 inch screen. Go figure.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (zc3Db)

112 I actually think the first two Alien movies do hold up, except for the wretched special-effects on chestbuster 1. Spaceballs skewered that scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (XRIvr)

113 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

114
From what I saw, the new Alien is the S.O.S., same old shit.

Cranky nonchalant smart-mouthed bored spaceship crew who turn out to be dangers to themselves.



Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (a6O80)

115 23 John Derbyshire is recommending Ivanhoe (technically a TV series).
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo
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What channel?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2017 07:32 PM (ZO497)

++++

There have been a few Ivanhoe movies and series, but since BTH was talking about Roger Moore, he must have been talking about the 1958 series. According to Wiki, it was never released on DVD. The only place I could find it is on torrent sites.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 08:14 PM (R+30W)

116 You can't judge a cover by its book.

Posted by: Todd Kyle at May 27, 2017 08:14 PM (IqV8l)

117 The Alien flicks are enjoyable, but The Thing (the '80s one) blows them away.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (GsAUU)

118 There was a period of a year or so, maybe 5 or 6 years ago, when rented DVDs had like 20 or more minutes of trailers and you could NOT avoid them by going to the root menu to simply start the movie (feature was deactivated).

And then if you didn't finish the movie and had a dumb player that didn't remember your place, you'd have to suffer through the pain the next time you inserted it.

I tried all kinds of workarounds like trying to execute various individual files on the DVD itself and researching tricks, but to no avail.

Simply maddening (always eliciting a slew of curse words from me much to my wife's chagrin), so I learned to put the movie in the player quite some time before actually being ready to sit down and watch it.

Don't know if it was confined to certain studios or distributors, but this must have really pissed off people who purchased the DVDs as it appears they've since ended that practice.

Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (ZcAbN)

119 Aliens wears well. Burke does look a bit too yuppie popped collar business guy, but otherwise, very good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (iHjB5)

120 42
I've never seen a movie based on a trailer ... unless there's some super hot chick in the trailer.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zc3Db)

The movies Hobo With a Shotgun, and Machete came from the faux trailers in the Tarantino/Rodrigues Grindhouse double feature.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (XoldI)

121
You can't judge a cover by its book.

Posted by: Todd Kyle


heh.

in b4 Todd Kyle??

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:16 PM (a6O80)

122
oops, I mean Kyle Todd

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:16 PM (a6O80)

123 The only way my sister got through the first Twilight movie was sneaking in s flask o rum to add to the coke she bought at concessions.

"Avatar" remains my only Three Beer Movie at the Alamo Drafthouse / Cinebarre.

I did sneak in that flask-o-rum for certain movies, but I don't remember which. Anyway I didn't, actually, sip much of the rum in the end.

I am VERY glad I didn't bring any serious booze to "Avatar" or they'd have had to wheel me out. That was an abomination.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (XRIvr)

124 Alien is a seven-part franchise of which only the first two are liked by anybody.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (oVJmc)

125 I think it is fitting that 30 years from now, Paul Riser will be known for Burke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (iHjB5)

126 Moby Dick TJM trailer is fine. It isn't 'hooky' but it builds nice.

It doesn't tell me what the movie is about, though. Just that there's sailors.

The job of a trailer is to put butts in seats before word of mouth. Some have done that well (Suicide Squad), some flat out lie (too many to list).

The trailer is also what first sets expectations. And if the movie isn't what the trailer shows, that's how you get backlash, even for movies that probably don't deserve it.

A good trailer is a work of art.

But I have to admit, I don't watch movies based on the strength of trailers alone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (xJa6I)

127 Never saw Alexander, but I liked Troy much more than I thought I would. I've seen it 3 times now.

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (2WFxS)

128 Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Greg Allman passed away.
Also, as expected, new Roger Waters tour is filled with Trump hate.
The tour just opened; I watched a lot of it online, and it seems really uneven. PInk Floyd's Greatest Hits meets Spinal Tap Jazz Explorations with Giant, GIANT Screens and Roger's face 40' tall.
Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:07 PM (aT+Bx)


Yup.....friend of mine back in the day would drop acid and listen to Floyd in his car in the parking lot. I would ask him about the different lyrics and he would go so in depth about them it was amazing. Too bad he couldn't get all worked up about real life though. Pink Floyd is and always was garbage.

Trailers always show the only part of the movie worth watching nowadays. I always liked the snack bar cartoons back when the world was sane.

I thought Greg Allman was already dead. Too bad. I always hoped Cher would go first.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (5VlCp)

129 David, the creepy evil cyborg
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I didn't see the first one, so I might have misunderstood something I read about this somewhere. But wasn't he a decaptitated head at the end of the last movie? I take it Noomi Rapace's character from the previous movie was stupid enough to give the treacherous backstabbing murderous android a new body? Presumably right before he painfully and messily killed her?

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (deapv)

130 I loved the 1st Alien, the 2nd was hair raising, 3rd was eh.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (Ot7+c)

131 The movies Hobo With a Shotgun, and Machete came from the faux trailers in the Tarantino/Rodrigues Grindhouse double feature.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (XoldI)


Never saw any of those. Don't like Tarantino. Don't like Rodrigues. Don't like any of the shit they spew out.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)

132 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

And Heat

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (xJa6I)

133
Don't know if it was confined to certain studios or distributors, but this must have really pissed off people who purchased the DVDs as it appears they've since ended that practice.
Posted by: ShainS at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (ZcAbN)


--Big Rat movies were notorious for that.

Now the thing with DVDs is that if you just rent them via Redbox you get a bare-bones DVD with rarely more than the feature; you gotta buy it to get deleted scenes and other worthwhile extras (which is fine by me since the flick is usually all I want, not the rambling of the director/cast commentary).

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (GsAUU)

134 The movies Hobo With a Shotgun, and Machete came from the faux trailers in the Tarantino/Rodrigues Grindhouse double feature.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:15 PM (XoldI)

Never saw any of those. Don't like Tarantino. Don't like Rodrigues. Don't like any of the shit they spew out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)

Taste varies, but the man knows how to do a scene. Maybe not a whole movie, but you can take a single scene out of context and it is amazingly well done.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (xJa6I)

135 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

And Heat


And Top Secret!.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:19 PM (oVJmc)

136 ShainS: The Hunger Games blu-rays (blu-rays!) unfortunately have trailers. Which are marked as "Mandatory Viewing" just like the Capital's propos in the film itself. Yeah... um... that's not funny.

I can kind of see having to endure trailers in a Redbox rental or maybe a library loan, but not in a blu-ray that you've paid a premium for. SHOW THE DAMN MOVIE ALREADY.

This is, of course, a large reason why piracy is such a thing, because pirates don't have to worry about previews. You get the movie, bam, on your desk, right away (after the download).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:21 PM (XRIvr)

137
I actually think the first two Alien movies do hold up, except for the wretched special-effects on chestbuster 1. Spaceballs skewered that scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (XRIvr)







Agreed.

But y'know, the practical effects in the first two films really do hold up well. Especially the Alien Queen, which is pretty much just a big puppet mounted to a crane. In the DVD Special Edition extras, there's some of the test footage of the first mockup of the queen. Basically it's the framework, covered with trash bags. They're running all the puppeteers for the thing.....while they're filming in a parking lot. Damned thing looks freakishly scary.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:21 PM (quw2O)

138 127
Never saw Alexander, but I liked Troy much more than I thought I would. I've seen it 3 times now.

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 08:17 PM (2WFxS)

The Achilles/Hector duel is epic.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2017 08:21 PM (XoldI)

139 @124 Alien is a seven-part franchise of which only the first two are liked by anybody.
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Seven? I thought the latest one was 6? Though I know that there are at least two more planned.

From what I've heard, it sounds like Ridley Scott is trying to retroactively remove 2, 3, and 4, from the canon. 3 and 4 probably wouldn't be missed all that much.

Aliens, on the other hand...

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (deapv)

140 Best trailers ever are at the beginning of Tropic Thunder. Now, when I hear The Four Seasons, I hear female Jack Black say, "Yes, my good man. More beans, please."

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (2WFxS)

141 I didn't see the first one, so I might have misunderstood something I read about this somewhere. But wasn't he a decaptitated head at the end of the last movie? I take it Noomi Rapace's character from the previous movie was stupid enough to give the treacherous backstabbing murderous android a new body? Presumably right before he painfully and messily killed her?
Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (deapv)
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I rewatched "Prometheus" and Elizabeth Shaw dragged David's body out of the ship along with his head in a bag. She had to take him because he knew how to pilot an alien spacecraft.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (NT3RT)

142 Never saw any of those. Don't like Tarantino. Don't like Rodrigues. Don't like any of the shit they spew out.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (zc3Db)

--Neither made Hobo With a Shotgun.

It has the over-the-top gore QT likes. It has a heavy Canadian hand in its creation (John Dunsworth's daughters, Robb Wells, and hockeh skates) so it's a little different, though.

I liked it a lot as a revenge flick.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:23 PM (GsAUU)

143
Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)

And Heat

And Top Secret!.



And The Godfather.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:23 PM (a6O80)

144 LOL, "Satan's Alley"

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:24 PM (XRIvr)

145 Gregory's Pecker played Moby's Dick

Posted by: Captn Cock Curious at May 27, 2017 08:24 PM (w9FXL)

146 "I forgot" == Lemon Kitten?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:24 PM (XRIvr)

147 i think alien and aliens hold up very well. real champs.

but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:25 PM (WTSFk)

148 @141 I rewatched "Prometheus" and Elizabeth Shaw dragged David's body out of the ship along with his head in a bag. She had to take him because he knew how to pilot an alien spacecraft.
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Now, personally, if my choices were between "Rebuild the homicidal treacherous backstabbing android so that I can pilot a ship off of this rock," or "Sit tight and hope I'm lucky enough to have someone come by and rescue me," I'll go with the second option.

At least in that case, there's only a *chance* I'll die.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:25 PM (deapv)

149 I think in hindsight we are going to think Ridley Scott made a hash of the Aliens series already uneven quality.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (iHjB5)

150
It's really pathetic to see a man trying to hide the fact that he's been musically irrelevant for nearly 40 years.
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IMHO, there are few, if any, artists over the age of 40 who are "musically relevant" anymore.

Waters spends money on his tours, and they look good. However, this one seems uneven. Kind of similar to U2's tour-- Giant Ass Video Wall.

/OK, confession. I write about entertainment technology, and my beat is concerts. That's how I know all these bizarre things.

Posted by: shibumi at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (aT+Bx)

151 I gotta say, DJT's golf course is really pretty.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (GsAUU)

152 Red Letter Media explained 'Prometheus' pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:27 PM (XRIvr)

153 Val Kilmer gets a lot of rope for two things: Real Genius and Tombstone.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (iHjB5)
And Heat
And Top Secret!.
And The Godfather.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:23 PM (a6O80)

Val was in a movie where the prison guards were fighting the prisoners in gladiator type fights and his cell mate was an innocent man who had to survive in the joint. Val was all fat in this one.

When his cellie arrived, Val asked him, "Do you want to fight or fuck?" and the guy said neither.
Pretty good movie.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (5VlCp)

154 One of my (many) criticisms of "Covenant" was that, after suffering through her many horrors but surviving in the film "Prometheus", Elizabeth Shaw is dead as a door nail in the next flick (just like Newt and Hicks in Alien 3). What happened to her quest to find out the secrets of the Engineers?

I have heard that the next one may be a presequel between "Prometheus" and "Covenant".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (NT3RT)

155 ... after all, the plots of the first two movies are about the corporation trying to get ahold of the creature... so naturally, that should follow.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:29 PM (WTSFk)

156 Couple of remarkable trailers in my experience.

Xanadu

This roller disco movie trailer shows Gene Kelly doing a few dance steps implying that Gene Kelly, aging hoofer legend, dances in the movie. In fact, the perhaps one second of Kelly's dancing in the trailer is all the dancing he does. I didn't care about Kelly, I saw the movie because back then Olivia Newton John was hot, but I resented being lied to.

Coal Miner's Dajghter

This trailer contained the plot of the entire movie. Didn't need to see the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 08:30 PM (Nwg0u)

157 @147 but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.
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The corporate weasel tried it in the second movie.

The Hadley's Hope colony was destroyed by the reactor going *boom* in the second movie, iirc. So there weren't any alien specimens around to recover. The plot summary I've seen of the third movie suggests that they tried at the end of that movie. But they failed again. By the time the fourth movie rolled around, the military was trying to clone the thing based off of a contaminated genetic sample. So evidently they hadn't found any more living xenomorphs in the intervening period of time.

At least in the movies.

There are a lot of comic books and novels that say otherwise. But given that Newt is still alive in those, they're obviously not the movie continuity.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:30 PM (deapv)

158 The differences between the first three movies is understandable- different directors, different writers. What is Scott's excuse.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:31 PM (iHjB5)

159 Many years ago I went to a showing of "Previews of Coming Attractions" at the L.A. County Museum of Art. It was great. Previews of silent films, all the way up to modern times. And some of them were hilarious.

Now, I'm not saying how long ago this was, but the last preview they showed?

Some film called "Star Wars".

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 08:32 PM (DrCtv)

160
One more thing about movie trailers.
Twenty minutes of them before the feature.

I'm so old I remember two or three trailers a cartoons (the good stuff) maybe a short film.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 27, 2017 08:32 PM (t6XCL)

161 Some of the movie trailers just don't work and I can't explain why. The Wonder Woman trailer? Did nothing for me. None of them did. The Valerian one looks amazing. I can't explain why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:33 PM (39g3+)

162 One of my all-time favorite movies is Marathon Man with Laurence Olivier. Yes I realize the plot is muddled and there are more than a few scenes that leave the viewer thinking "Huh?" But Olivier creates one of cinema's most chilling and soulless villains and there are well-done scenes of excruciating intensity.
And...the trailer is awful. Tepid, watery, and unfocused, it does a terrible job of conveying what the film is about and an even worse job of convincing the customer to see it.

Posted by: Major1 at May 27, 2017 08:33 PM (UjIiY)

163 I remember being royally pissed that the trailer for John Carter was less compelling than the trailer for Wrath of the Titans. True, John Carter wasn't a great movie, but its trailers were just....so....bland. An amazing marketing fail for Disney...

The trailer for 300 (with the 'Just Like You Imagined' soundtrack) is probably the epitome of the modern action movie trailer. Perfectly encapsulates the movie, and is also entertaining in-and-of-itself!

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (7aeqx)

164 the next one may be a presequel between "Prometheus" and "Covenant"

Nuke Ridley Scott's studio from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (XRIvr)

165 Val was in a movie where the prison guards were fighting the prisoners in gladiator type fights and his cell mate was an innocent man who had to survive in the joint. Val was all fat in this one.

When his cellie arrived, Val asked him, "Do you want to fight or fuck?" and the guy said neither.
Pretty good movie.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (5VlCp)


I was trying to remember the name of that movie. It was pretty good. I knew nothing about it before I saw it and was pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (T71PA)

166 I really want to see Point Blank, but its not streaming

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (39g3+)

167
Anyone remember the General Cinema previews?

I mean the little tune for the intro. It would show a big film reel and then the music...shh shhht shht shht-tttshhst

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (a6O80)

168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf8)

169 Some of the Wonder Woman trailers work better for me than others. I blame Gal Gadot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (iHjB5)

170 I really want to see Point Blank, but its not streaming

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (39g3+)


TMC plays it pretty often.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (zc3Db)

171 ... would have given scott the opportunity to imagine another future earth, either a benevolent society run by a hillary played by helen mirren or judy densch, or a dystopian corporate dictatorship run by a bush, um, a trump.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (WTSFk)

172 OMG, the NIN trailer for "300". I saw that in the theatre and I gripped my then-gf's wrist.

I guess that's an advisory on dating BTH: contents volatile in presence of movies about Ancient Greeks.

Er, that didn't sound right . . .

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:36 PM (XRIvr)

173 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf


There were tons of movie franchises way back when.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 08:37 PM (zc3Db)

174
wow Youtube is amazing!

here's that old General Cinema intro I was talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzCAJt7HsqQ

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 08:37 PM (a6O80)

175
Seven? I thought the latest one was 6? Though I know that there are at least two more planned.


I was throwing in the Alien Vs. Predator movie. I didn't realize there were two of those.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:37 PM (oVJmc)

176 @168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.
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Remind me again which role the late Roger Moore was best known for?

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (deapv)

177 Er, that didn't sound right . . .
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:36 PM (XRIvr)

Do you like movies about gladiators?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (iHjB5)

178 i think alien and aliens hold up very well. real champs.

but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May




well, the problem with Aliens, which I really liked, was they would have solved a lot of their problems if they had simply gone outside. they had the detectors that could give you range and direction of aliens. simply going outside would have prevented the aliens from sneaking up on them and would have ensured the aliens could only approach them an the level, not from above or below.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (cPsPa)

179 157: junior: um, you're right, they tried. thanks for the explanation.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (WTSFk)

180 Heh, someone posted (albeit it's shit quality):

https://youtu.be/FAmTho20Wo0

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (GsAUU)

181 Only trailer I've seen in a theater recently that made me go see the movie was for "Zootopia". That scene with the sloths at the DMV was so funny.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (w+Jhj)

182 John Carter was kind of dull, it was okay but it just didn't have the right tone of pulp fun. Should have been more Indiana Jones, but it took its self far too seriously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (39g3+)

183 Some Upcoming Sequels:

The 11 Commandments

Malcolm XI

1777



Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (oVJmc)

184 oh yeah, when you are on an alien planet waiting for you squad of colonial marines to find out what happened to the entire colony, close the doors on your assault craft.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (cPsPa)

185 least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.




someone said caitlin jenner will be in the upcoming been him.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:41 PM (cPsPa)

186 184 oh yeah, when you are on an alien planet waiting for you squad of colonial marines to find out what happened to the entire colony, close the doors on your assault craft.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:39 PM (cPsPa)

Also, stay armed at all times.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:41 PM (iHjB5)

187 If you've seen Planet of the Vampires and IT! The Terror from Beyond Space, you have to have seen the major contributions they made to 'Alien.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:41 PM (oVJmc)

188 "This trailer contained the plot of the entire movie. Didn't need to see the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"

That could be said of many of the trailers I've seen over the years.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (w+Jhj)

189 Also, stay armed at all times.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May




yeah that. sure it is not detroit but it is dangerous

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (cPsPa)

190 168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf

--Wasn't last year's the third iteration of Ben Hur?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (GsAUU)

191 The trailer for "Alien" in '79 is the best one I can think of ATM. It didn't give too much anyway, no voiceover, no dialogue. Love Alien 1, 2 and 3. After that, it's all downhill. Ridley Scott is making me reassess the worth of Alien 4. I don't hate it as much as I used to. At least it has interesting characters.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:42 PM (lmIoG)

192 Never saw Alexander. Was warned off by the reported homoerotisism.

-
Shouldn't that word be homo-nausea-ism?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks and You're Not at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (Nwg0u)

193 now that we're on aliens...

for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (WTSFk)

194 @190
--Wasn't last year's the third iteration of Ben Hur?
---------------------

There have been five films.

IIRC, the one with Heston was the third one.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (deapv)

195
Saw Alien: Covenant.
I thought it was going to be about the origins of the Engineerings from the previous movie Prometheus but nope.

Instead it was about how bad decisions can cause you be to chase by very angry critters with a sneaky robot up to no good.

Posted by: YIKES! at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (t6XCL)

196 165 Val was in a movie where the prison guards were fighting the prisoners in gladiator type fights and his cell mate was an innocent man who had to survive in the joint. Val was all fat in this one.

When his cellie arrived, Val asked him, "Do you want to fight or fuck?" and the guy said neither.
Pretty good movie.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2017 08:28 PM (5VlCp)


I was trying to remember the name of that movie. It was pretty good. I knew nothing about it before I saw it and was pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Duke of Righteous WTF? at May 27, 2017 08:34 PM (T71PA)

++++

Felon?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117385/

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 08:44 PM (R+30W)

197
178 i think alien and aliens hold up very well. real champs.

but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May




well, the problem with Aliens, which I really liked, was they would have solved a lot of their problems if they had simply gone outside. they had the detectors that could give you range and direction of aliens. simply going outside would have prevented the aliens from sneaking up on them and would have ensured the aliens could only approach them an the level, not from above or below.
Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:38 PM (cPsPa)

Bunker mentality. Recipe for disaster.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 27, 2017 08:44 PM (e1mEI)

198 On the theme of movies for this weekend, one war movie that's in the top 5 is "The Great Escape" The fact that it's (mostly) based on real events makes it even better.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 08:44 PM (w+Jhj)

199 Red Letter Media on Alien: Covenant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klsy8PiscEw

I just started it so, no clue. My guess is, they shred it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:45 PM (NT3RT)

200 now that we're on aliens...

for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May




well, also, there is a moment in Aliens where the corporate puke admits they suspected there was something amiss on the planet before sending the colonists. why not send some robots down there to check things out before you send down the humans? you know, things that will not serve as alien hosts?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (cPsPa)

201 but i expected the next sequel to be about the mayhem when the corporation smuggles an alien onto earth. don't know why they didn't try that, seems like a natural.

I expected that, too. I liked the 3rd one and 4th one as well but they were less exciting than the first two.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (39g3+)

202 I wear earplugs at movie theaters. The previews and features both are too damn loud. Have to say one of the crappier movies seen on tv lately was the Noah thing with Russell Crowe. If I had seen that in a theater, I would have demanded my money back.What a load of crap, and yet one of my all time favorites was Master And Commander.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (zLDYs)

203 agnew: The weather outside was bad and the terrain was volcanic with lots of jagged rocks .the xenos would have hunted them there too.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:47 PM (LpbSR)

204 John "Frickin'" Wick....

Posted by: KWDreaming at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (lLOfk)

205 I didn't see the first one, so I might have misunderstood something I read about this somewhere. But wasn't he a decaptitated head at the end of the last movie? I take it Noomi Rapace's character from the previous movie was stupid enough to give the treacherous backstabbing murderous android a new body? Presumably right before he painfully and messily killed her?
Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:18 PM (deapv)
---
I rewatched "Prometheus" and Elizabeth Shaw dragged David's body out of the ship along with his head in a bag. She had to take him because he knew how to pilot an alien spacecraft.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 08:22 PM (NT3RT)



It's handled with five second of dialogue.

Something like "She was the only human who was kind to me. She put me together when I was badly injured."

Along those lines.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (9q7Dl)

206 i did not finish Noah.

Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (LpbSR)

207 What a load of crap, and yet one of my all time favorites was Master And Commander.
Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 08:46 PM (zLDYs)

--Great movie.

The books are highly recommended by Arthur Herman, historian and author of To Rule The Waves, for their accuracy and storylines.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:48 PM (GsAUU)

208 One question on MeTv, How did Lynda Carter get into the Wonder Woman costume?

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 08:49 PM (Ot7+c)

209 now that we're on aliens...

for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.


Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM

Yeah, it's the biggest logic problem in Aliens. I guess cameron couldn't work out a way around it and keep the story being told. Still love it though. I forgive that sort of thing in a kickass flick.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:49 PM (lmIoG)

210 Is that Noah the one with the rock people?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:51 PM (fJ5wU)

211 The weather outside was bad and the terrain was volcanic with lots of jagged rocks .the xenos would have hunted them there too.
Posted by: Boulder terlit hobo at May




well then what were they going to grow there? pet rocks? no thermal sights? that is it really cool rifles with some sort of injectable caseless amunition but only iron sights?

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:51 PM (cPsPa)

212 Local Alamo Drafthouse is having a Kubrick festival, with Full Metal Jacket showing next month (too young to watch in the theater), and I'd love to see it, but that Wonder Woman asshattery will have me holding on to my $$$.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:52 PM (GsAUU)

213 When did Andrews AFB get renamed to Joint Base Andrews?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:53 PM (GsAUU)

214 The planet in Aliens was in the process of being terraformed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:54 PM (iHjB5)

215 210 Is that Noah the one with the rock people?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:51 PM (fJ5wU)

--The Nephilim?

I heard that Noah was about climate change so I lost all interest.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:54 PM (GsAUU)

216 well, the problem with Aliens, which I really liked, was they would have solved a lot of their problems if they had simply gone outside. they had the detectors that could give you range and direction of aliens. simply going outside would have prevented the aliens from sneaking up on them and would have ensured the aliens could only approach them an the level, not from above or below.

I've said that today's modern military wouldn't have a whole lot of trouble with the aliens as depicted. The series always has to limit the capabilities of the humans to make them a viable threat.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:55 PM (oVJmc)

217 One question on MeTv, How did Lynda Carter get into the Wonder Woman costume?

I spent most of my younger years wondering how to get her OUT.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (oVJmc)

218
168 At least in the old days they made a movie and that was it. They generally didn't regurgitate them ad infinitum.

There was no Ben Hur III.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 27, 2017 08:35 PM (ARzf







The Thin Man series notwithstanding.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (quw2O)

219 When did Andrews AFB get renamed to Joint Base Andrews?
Posted by: logprof at May




wasn't it late 2009?



Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (cPsPa)

220 Local Alamo Drafthouse is having a Kubrick festival, with Full Metal Jacket showing next month (too young to watch in the theater), and I'd love to see it, but that Wonder Woman asshattery will have me holding on to my $$$.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:52 PM

Wonder Woman??? Logprof, if you have a chance to see FMJ on the big screen... take it. It rocks on the big screen.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (lmIoG)

221 The Master and Commander ship (the British one) is down on the waterfront here. Haven't toured it, even though I did go through the two subs next to it (one a Soviet Golf-class boat in poor shape). For many years one of the custom-built catamarans from Water World was tied up two piers away from my friend's cruising catamaran at the same marina. Never saw it being used.

Trying to think of the last time I was in a movie theater. Hmm, maybe three years ago - the latest Stalingrad movie (Russian production). Not awful, not great. Saw the 1993 German one at the AFI theater in DC - it was good (i.e. grim, tough, overwhelming).

My gawd, before that, we're talking Clint's two WWII movies, Flags, and Letters from Iwo Jima (meh, and sub-meh - but only in terms of the actual stories, and how weak and uninteresting the movies were in comparison).

On a more amusing note, I salute Merovign's sly attempt to turn the pet thread into a gun thread today. Valorous effort in the best tradition of the AOSHQ service.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 08:57 PM (QDnY+)

222 I just finished watching Tomorrowland. A subtle attempt at Leftism indoctrination. Funny that it contained a lot of violence. The part that really got me was the end when they were to recruit the best and brightest and the dreamers of a better future and not a white guy was to be found. Other than the above, not a bad movie.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 08:57 PM (IDPbH)

223 I've said that today's modern military wouldn't have a whole lot of trouble with the aliens as depicted. The series always has to limit the capabilities of the humans to make them a viable threat.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May




yep, you were right.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (cPsPa)

224 Logprof,

What do you think of the Nash vs Pit Finals?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (89T5c)

225 @216 I've said that today's modern military wouldn't have a whole lot of trouble with the aliens as depicted. The series always has to limit the capabilities of the humans to make them a viable threat.
--------------------

To add to that, Cameron apparently didn't base the Colonial Marines off of the volunteer US Army, which has been fairly professional since it went all-volunteer. Instead, he based it off of the conscript army that he was familiar with, which apparently had a lot more screw-ups in it.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (deapv)

226
for me it was beyond stupid that the entire crew would land with the marines, leaving not one person on the orbiting mother ship.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 27, 2017 08:43 PM (WTSFk)

That one bothered me too. Bigger point is wtf did the drop ship crew land on the planet at a remote location. This seems like plot point tactics. Which when you view the many tactical mistakes in that movie shows how badly Cameron wanted his Vietnam parallel by how far he had to go.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (iHjB5)

227 That one bothered me too. Bigger point is wtf did the drop ship crew land on the planet at a remote location. This seems like plot point tactics. Which when you view the many tactical mistakes in that movie shows how badly Cameron wanted his Vietnam parallel by how far he had to go.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May




interesting

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 08:59 PM (cPsPa)

228 I actually think the first two Alien movies do hold up, except for the wretched special-effects on chestbuster 1. Spaceballs skewered that scene.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 08:13 PM (XRIvr)



You know, the funny thing is that I always considered the practical efx chestburster kinda lame-

until I saw the State of the Art CGI Chestburster Alien in "Alien:Convenant"

honestly it's ridiculous...like....Alien Barbie.

The low tech, hard to define, blood-splattered chestburster is actually the superior and more horrifying effect.

Who knew.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 09:03 PM (9q7Dl)

229 Wonder Woman??? Logprof, if you have a chance to see FMJ on the big screen... take it. It rocks on the big screen.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 08:56 PM (lmIoG)

--Yeah, I am torn. It's pricey, because in addition to the admission there's a T-shirt with the "BORN TO KILL" helmet on it (I want to get one in my son's size but not sure at what age), so it's enticing.

The Wonder Woman thing was posted here --only chicks (only bio, or also self-identified? hmmm) were allowed for the first showing.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (GsAUU)

230 Tastes obviously vary, but logprof you're only missing half a movie if you skip FMJ. As some others have noted, second part (in Vietnam) is pretty forgettable, or silly, or uninteresting, depending on your personal take. I'm sure some love it, but even as a Kubrick semi-cultist, blah, and meh. First part of course is classic in its own way.

(if, for some reason, someone did sequels to FMJ, would they title them things like "LSWCHP", or "BTHP", I wonder?)

Can't recall if I saw Master and Commander in a theater. It's well executed, in every way. Interesting to hear it's fairly accurate - something I value in historical flicks.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (QDnY+)

231

To add to that, Cameron apparently didn't base the Colonial Marines off of the volunteer US Army, which has been fairly professional since it went all-volunteer. Instead, he based it off of the conscript army that he was familiar with, which apparently had a lot more screw-ups in it.

Posted by: junior at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (deapv)






True, he was very clear that the Colonial Marines were based on Vietnam-era conscripts. On the other hand, the modern, professional volunteer military that we know today really didn't take shape until Reagan brought in the budgets necessary to properly train and equip it. In '86 when Aliens was released, that process was still ongoing. So the Vietnam meme really wasn't much of a stretch at the time.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (quw2O)

232 Why did the drop ship land? Because then the Aliens could ambush and kill them, cutting the marines off from the ship.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (iHjB5)

233 Don't complain about Joint Base Andrews, LogProf. I suppose it could have been stuff like Camp Lena Dunham. Or Fortress Liberace.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 09:05 PM (zLDYs)

234 naturalfake, dunno if true, but I've read that the chestburster scene was filmed in one take, with some of the cast deliberately not informed as to exactly what was to happen - so as to enhance the surprise/shock effect.

I'm sure the movie nerds in abundance here can confirm/debunk this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM (QDnY+)

235 224 Logprof,

What do you think of the Nash vs Pit Finals?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 08:58 PM (89T5c)

--Mainly that I want Smashville to win.

Seriously, it should be awesome. Mike Fisher is the grizzled vet of the Preds, although Subban is not far behind. The Kings pulled it off as the bottom seed champs just five years ago, so I can dream. I hope Rinne will stay hot and catch that lightning in a bottle like Quick did. . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM (GsAUU)

236 Worst movie experience.. when mom and I went to see Driving Miss Daisy and two black women behind us mouthing off the first 20 minutes then got up and left because they just couldn't stand the fact that that's the way it was in that time.

Funniest movie experience.. my grown son crying at the end of King Kong.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM (CNHr1)

237 worst movie ever, spaceballs, first movie I ever walked out of.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:08 PM (cPsPa)

238 --Yeah, I am torn. It's pricey, because in addition to the admission there's a T-shirt with the "BORN TO KILL" helmet on it (I want to get one in my son's size but not sure at what age), so it's enticing.

The Wonder Woman thing was posted here --only chicks (only bio, or also self-identified? hmmm) were allowed for the first showing.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM


Oh, I see. Well, IMHO, forget that shit just this time, bite the bullet and just go. You don't get many shots at seeing something like FMJ at the movies. If you don't go, you'll regret it later.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:08 PM (lmIoG)

239 Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Cutthroat Island.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:09 PM (iHjB5)

240 I walked out of a movie once. It must have been really bad because I don't remember the name to safe my life.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 09:10 PM (CNHr1)

241 Worst movie seen in a theater.

Looking for Mr. Goodbar

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:10 PM (IDPbH)

242 Yes, the theater was empty and I must have been one of the five people who saw it nationwide.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (iHjB5)

243 Instead of waiting until I finally get a real TV, I should get a copy of Storyville from the local library system to see how that scene came out where I was sitting about 3 feet out of the camera's eye at Cafe du Monde while James Spader kept sneezing (powdered sugar on the beignets) and forcing many takes of a very short scene.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (QDnY+)

244 Worst movie seen in a theater. The Blair Witch Project.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (auHtY)

245 230 Tastes obviously vary, but logprof you're only missing half a movie if you skip FMJ. As some others have noted, second part (in Vietnam) is pretty forgettable, or silly, or uninteresting, depending on your personal take. I'm sure some love it, but even as a Kubrick semi-cultist, blah, and meh. First part of course is classic in its own way.

(if, for some reason, someone did sequels to FMJ, would they title them things like "LSWCHP", or "BTHP", I wonder?)

Can't recall if I saw Master and Commander in a theater. It's well executed, in every way. Interesting to hear it's fairly accurate - something I value in historical flicks.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:04 PM (QDnY+)

--Oh, I stick around for the second half just for Animal Mother.

Also, as I mentioned above, *all* of the Patrick O'Brien books got the thumbs-up from Arthur Herman, most specifically for the accuracy of the details. I hope there are some of them on Audible.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:11 PM (GsAUU)

246 Katie Hopkins on Judge Jeanine's show.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:14 PM (GsAUU)

247 Went to see "Cabin Boy". It was just me and my man, plus two other guys several rows back.

15 minutes past the start time and still no movie. I go and get an usher and he says "Oh wow, we didn't know anybody came to see that thing! There was nobody for the last showing."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 09:14 PM (NT3RT)

248 The original Forest Gump playing on TV right now.

No Time For Sergeants

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:15 PM (IDPbH)

249 naturalfake, dunno if true, but I've read that the chestburster scene was filmed in one take, with some of the cast deliberately not informed as to exactly what was to happen - so as to enhance the surprise/shock effect.

I'm sure the movie nerds in abundance here can confirm/debunk this.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:07 PM


Basically true. None of the cast, except John Hurt, knew what they were filming. I think Ian Holm may have known also. Not sure on that one. The bit where Yaphet Kotto tries to stab the chestbuster with the fork and Holm stops him, may have been added afterwards. But essentially it was done in two sections... First the breakfast scene, Hurt convulses and ends up on the table. Then they were all ushered away while they prepped Hurt for the big sequence setup on the table. The rest of the cast were brought back in to do the burst. They knew something really bad was on the cards (plastic sheeting etc covering some of the set) but, they didn't know WHAT exactly.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:16 PM (lmIoG)

250 I once heard Master and Commander described as the perfect movie for middle aged white guys. As one of those (OK, I was middle aged when the remark was made), I have to agree. I really enjoy that movie. I watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the franchise.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 09:17 PM (V+03K)

251 Moby Dick? HATED IT!

Posted by: Men on Film at May 27, 2017 09:17 PM (wRCZ1)

252 Cabin Boy. Now there was a stinker.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:18 PM (iHjB5)

253 I really enjoy that movie. I watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the franchise.
Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 09:17 PM (V+03K)

--Don't give up just yet. According to Wiki, the novels were huge best-sellers, and Dog knows that as much as Hollywood loves to go to the well for comic books, someone will resurrect those books on screen.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:19 PM (GsAUU)

254 I love it when there are 20 minutes of trailers before a movie. I don't watch tv anymore and don't always know what's coming out. Plus trailers are usually pretty exciting, they are trying to sell you something, after all.

I hate it when the trailer has scenes that aren't in the movie, or worse, when they put the funniest scene in the trailer. Christmas Office Party is a perfect example.

I also hate it when the movie score doesn't match the timeframe of the movie. The trailer for the new King Arthur movie does this. Totally threw water on any desire for me to watch. Meh.

Posted by: squeakywheel at May 27, 2017 09:19 PM (ntmD3)

255 Thanks, otho. Thus endeth my contribution to any movie trivia discussions (though there is that thing about Kubrick circulating the script of Strangelove to people in the biz, such as the RAND folks, to check the accuracy - if that's the word - of his caricatures of people/ideas in the nukyler strategery field).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (QDnY+)

256 So overstock.com still makes ads, but alas, the MILFy spokesbabe is not on them anymore.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (GsAUU)

257 I mentioned in an early thread that I watched Steel Helmet earlier . A Korean War movie made in only 10 days. I would say it would have to be one of the best 10 day movies ever made.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (IDPbH)

258 The Alamo dh shows we we are losing to our he hypocritical lef. Instead of suing into oblivion , a few suggest simply claiming t identify as female as a response. No, it ain't gonna cut it. Until the left is confronted, they will keep winning the all important culture war. They ignore at will, and boast about public accommodation laws they themselves cite over cake bakers and hmos seeking wedding cakes, and say they will expand the policy and our side of idiots responds by saying a business can do as it wants, which misses the point.

I agree too, but this cannot stand. They must live and die by sword or we can just give into them right fucking now.

We keep playing nice and by the rules, and our own positions and values are used full force against us. The left knows we agree that p.a. Laws are dumb, so they know we will defend them claiming a biz right to exclude, while only applying laws they like against the other tribes they detest selectively.

That cannot be allowed.

U must, as a man go to those screenings and threat to sue and act upon it. They have to get punched hard in the face on this at all costs, it's a hill to die on and it's getting only minor angry they are hypocrites but oh well type of coverage today.

Gawd, no wonder we are losing.

Posted by: Me at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (idhyN)

259 >>I once heard Master and Commander described as the perfect movie for middle aged white guys. As one of those (OK, I was middle aged when the remark was made), I have to agree. I really enjoy that movie. I watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the franchise.

If you liked the movie, read the books. That should entertain you for the next couple years.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (/tuJf)

260 I saw the trailer for Hot Fuzz in the theater. I about pissed myself watching the scene where Nick Frost had that goofy look on his face and ran through the fence.

Hot Fuzz is thusly on a 3-month rotation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (wRCZ1)

261 In 2004 I overheard a conversation. Older man: "What should we see?" Young man: "Team America?" Older man "I am NOT spending money to watch a goddam puppet show!"

This is how I feel about Blair Witch, Paranormal Activity, and any similar movie. I had a hi-8 camera when I was a teen, and I will damn sure not watch anything with a worse picture than that.

The old guy didn't know the meta-joke, that Team America was Thunderbirds on a Michael Bay scale. The photography is beautiful and Bill Pope is a famous DP. It should be. If it isn't gorgeous, then people should stay home.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (VdICR)

262
I saw the trailer for Hot Fuzz in the theater. I about pissed myself watching the scene where Nick Frost had that goofy look on his face and ran through the fence.

Hot Fuzz is thusly on a 3-month rotation.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (wRCZ1)







Cool thing with that scene is that it's a deliberate callback to one of the funnier gags in Shaun of the Dead.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (quw2O)

263 260 I saw the trailer for Hot Fuzz in the theater. I about pissed myself watching the scene where Nick Frost had that goofy look on his face and ran through the fence.

Hot Fuzz is thusly on a 3-month rotation.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (wRCZ1)

--I have all 3 of the Cornetti movies. I love in The World's End when The Network just gives up and says "Fuck you!" A great coda to the trilogy.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (GsAUU)

264 Walker was the original John Wick.

Posted by: goon at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (EaQ6/)

265 We had to leave before the end of King Kong because my daughter couldn't bear to watch the ape die.

Posted by: I had a name, but I forgot at May 27, 2017 09:25 PM (2WFxS)

266 This libtard on Judge Piro's show is a blowhard dipshit.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:25 PM (GsAUU)

267 Just watched the Frenxh Beauty and the Beast (2014) on Netflix. I liked it. It reminds me of a Patricia Mckillip book - very fairy tale in the original eerie sense.

Posted by: votermom pimping great books at May 27, 2017 09:26 PM (hMwEB)

268 Speaking of dresses, that black number Melania wore today was aces.
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I don't know. I think ace is more of a Fall.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:27 PM (nlbfN)

269 Lately my only movie-watching has been on yutube, Russian WWII-related movies. Interest in the topic, and language practice. One nice "small" movie (simple, small scope and story) I found was "Road to Berlin" (a ridiculous title, as it has nothing to do with the movie except in the most general sense).

The "Sftrafbat" (penal battalion) TV series, 11 parts, was actually quite good, and interesting for the unromantic view of Soviet realities. Production values nothing like Band of Brothers, but sort of the same vibe and idea.

Got half-way through a fairly recent movie about "Lady Death" (Pavlichenko, top Soviet female sniper) before some computer glitch, will find that again (actress playing Pavlichenko is decidely easy on the eyes and the PU scope).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:28 PM (QDnY+)

270 252 Cabin Boy. Now there was a stinker.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:18 PM (iHjB5)

++++

It made me laugh. But, I didn't go pay to see it in a theater, just watched on cable. But, that was what, 20 years ago. I was more easily amused in my youth.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 09:28 PM (R+30W)

271 I find deeper meaning in The World's End in every viewing. My latest theory is that Gary King actually died in his suicide attempt (spoiler) and is given a last opportunity to be the hero to his friends.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:29 PM (wRCZ1)

272 My mother tells me that I hid under the seats for the last few minutes of Creature From the Black Lagoon. She never got tired of reminding me of that. Even after I grew to be 2 feet taller than her. I would do bad things to hear her taunt me again.

Posted by: goon at May 27, 2017 09:29 PM (EaQ6/)

273 And if they're out of 80s movies to remake, they can start on early 90s films...I'm thinking Jerky Boys.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 27, 2017 09:30 PM (wRCZ1)

274 John Wick

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her! at May 27, 2017 09:31 PM (Uxokn)

275 1
Every time I go to the movies, which isn't often, there's 10-15 minutes of trailers. It's really annoying.

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 07:22 PM (0mRoj)

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"Previews" were always my favorite part of the experience. That was before they tended to blow my eardrums out. Plus they tended to be better than the movie itself.

Posted by: Javems at May 27, 2017 09:32 PM (yOqwj)

276 Andrews AFB is in Colorado???

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:32 PM (nlbfN)

277 I drank a whole bottle of wine. Now I feel fat.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (CNHr1)

278 I am not interested in seeing Richard Melville Hall's penis, not even on a wheeled hauling apparatus.

Posted by: A Big White Whale What Speaks English And All at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (SVttD)

279
Not too shabby a remake for the Moby Dick trailer, TJM.

Hardware Wars (197 -- You'll laugh! You'll cry! You'll kiss six bucks goodbye!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (+8Yuj)

280 Heh, Judge Piro talking FLOTUS fashion.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:33 PM (GsAUU)

281 Andrews AFB is in Colorado???
Posted by: andycanuck at May




that took too much work to enjoy.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (cPsPa)

282 Hey everybody. Oh boy, another movie thread!

Been wanting to tell people about this upcoming documentary that played at Cannes. It's a bio of a living person, Leon Vitale, who was Stanley Kubrick's personal assistant from 1980 (when he was shooting The Shining) to his death in 1999.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

Turns out, Stanley was *not* an easy man to work for, though he could be a kind man at times. Extremely demanding, and he wanted/needed Vitale there 24/7/365.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (eMKNe)

283 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (nlbfN)

284 Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Cutthroat Island.


Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:09 PM


Me too. We're in the "I actually bought a ticket to CI" club, the few, the regretful. It was lame. However, I don't mind it much now. It has a cheesy bad movie charm that holds up pretty well today, despite it's lameness. It says more about today's movie fare than it does about CI, though.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:34 PM (lmIoG)

285 "but I don't wanna' be president"

Cannery Row.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 09:35 PM (6qmBU)

286 The old guy didn't know the meta-joke, that Team America was Thunderbirds on a Michael Bay scale. The photography is beautiful and Bill Pope is a famous DP. It should be. If it isn't gorgeous, then people should stay home.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 09:24 PM (VdICR)
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I loved it when Parker and Stone said "We didn't do a comedy, we did a Michael Bay movie with puppets!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (NT3RT)

287 The verdict of the fashion dude on Judge Jeanine is that Melania can pull off the boob belt look.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (GsAUU)

288
Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck


Old King Yeller

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (IqV8l)

289 259 ... I have most of the Aubrey/Maturin series but have only read the first one (and loved it). I would be further along if I didn't keep getting side tracked with CS Lewis, Tolkien, Canterbury Tales and similar low trash. :-)

A side benefit has been discovering books of seafaring terms that are a delight on their own. "A Sea of Words" and "The Sailor's Word-Book" by Admiral Smyth published in 1867 are gems, especially the latter.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (V+03K)

290 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong Keith Olbermann gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck


FIFY.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (eMKNe)

291 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck



you left out the part about how he owes the russian mob money and he is trying to start a rap career while his billionaire father is running for governor.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:39 PM (cPsPa)

292 Steve McQueen is still the epitome of Cool.

Talked my traditional mom to seeing The Sand Pebbles when we were young. She dragged us out right after the coolie in the gears scene. I was crushed.

Somehow word got around us grammar school boys that The Great Escape would be on regular TV in two parts, on two nights. It was epic!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 09:39 PM (pV/54)

293 Yeah, the final scene when King Kong jumps into the volcano is a tear-jerker.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:39 PM (GsAUU)

294 Well, it is kinda sad when King Kong Keith Olbermann gets rabies at the end and threatens the family.
Posted by: andycanuck



that was not a movie it was a documentary.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:40 PM (cPsPa)

295 I must be an odd one. I prefer the Horatio Hornblower movies over the Master and Commander movie. (Well, at least the 3 best Hornblower movies.) M&H just never grabbed me like the tv movies did...

Posted by: Castle Guy at May 27, 2017 09:40 PM (7aeqx)

296 No one would cry over Keith, and viewers would have wanted it in the film's first five minutes and not the last!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:41 PM (nlbfN)

297 The verdict of the fashion dude on Judge Jeanine is that Melania can pull off the boob belt look.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (GsAUU)



The Trumps toured the Middle East and Europe showing the world how America does it best.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 09:41 PM (6qmBU)

298 A russell Crowe movie that was surprisingly good, was "The Nice Guys". Bonus for having Keith Fucking David in it.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (lmIoG)

299 I think someone told Frank Langella in Cutthroat Island: "Frank, are you gonna let Gary Oldman have all the fun? Chew that scenery as if your life depended on it!"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (iHjB5)

300 I was crushed.
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So was the first engineering coolie!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (nlbfN)

301 Sand Pebbles was great. As was, of course, The Great Escape.

Famous Hollywood figures who in real life were not far from the Malmedy massacre depicted in the movie? Mel Brooks, and ...... forget the other one. Both caught up in the Bulge.

And it really was closer to another village, not the town of Malmedy, but thus it was first termed and thus shall always be known (well, to the extent that any of our now routinely ignored or scrubbed history is "known" any longer ....).


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (QDnY+)

302 Not to be forgetting "The Getaway".

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (6qmBU)

303 Another vote for Horatio Hornblower. The first two series are excellent.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:44 PM (iHjB5)

304 Master & Commander is a mash-up of two of something like seventeen 350 page novels. By necessity a lot gets left out.

There's a lot about the doctor character that's left out that I won't reveal.

Read the books!

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 09:44 PM (pV/54)

305 Nice touch, if true (meaning if it means what it sounds like, and was unusual by recent practice): Trump speaks to US troops instead of doing a post-summit press conference.

I believe "heh" is the appropriate internet term here.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:45 PM (QDnY+)

306 I think someone told Frank Langella in Cutthroat Island: "Frank, are you gonna let Gary Oldman have all the fun? Chew that scenery as if your life depended on it!"


Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM


LOL. Try watching it again and just embrace the suck. It's a lot of fun!

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:45 PM (lmIoG)

307 "Somehow word got around us grammar school boys that
The Great Escape would be on regular TV in two parts, on two nights. It
was epic!

Posted by: Ignoramus "

They just located one of the tunnels with underground radar / sonar a year or so ago.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 09:45 PM (w+Jhj)

308
301 Sand Pebbles was great. As was, of course, The Great Escape.

Famous Hollywood figures who in real life were not far from the Malmedy massacre depicted in the movie? Mel Brooks, and ...... forget the other one. Both caught up in the Bulge.

And it really was closer to another village, not the town of Malmedy, but thus it was first termed and thus shall always be known (well, to the extent that any of our now routinely ignored or scrubbed history is "known" any longer ....).


Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:43 PM (QDnY+)






Charles Durning.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:46 PM (quw2O)

309
Trailers these days are more an annoyance than anything because (1) way, way too fooking loud in the theatres and (2) there are some marketing dicks who make them unskippable on the DVD or Blu-Ray releases.

That said, another perfect trailer -- https://youtu.be/mkxQ6HYDwIA

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 09:47 PM (+8Yuj)

310 298 A russell Crowe movie that was surprisingly good, was "The Nice Guys". Bonus for having Keith Fucking David in it.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (lmIoG)

--Speaking of The Thing . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:47 PM (GsAUU)

311 They just located one of the tunnels with underground radar / sonar a year or so ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May




would be really cool if they found those stalag 13 tunnel complexes.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (cPsPa)

312 259
>>I once heard Master and Commander described as the perfect movie
for middle aged white guys. As one of those (OK, I was middle aged when
the remark was made), I have to agree. I really enjoy that movie. I
watch it at least once a year. Wish there had been more of the
franchise.



If you liked the movie, read the books. That should entertain you for the next couple years.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2017 09:21 PM (/tuJf)
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My Dad was a big fan of the "Admiral Hornblower" books. Gregory Peck played the Admiral in a movie or two coincidentally.

Posted by: Javems at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (yOqwj)

313 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (39g3+)

314 There's a show on Axis TV called Nothing But Trailers.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:49 PM (IDPbH)

315 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May




yeah but seems really inefficient to send a really expensive ship on a really long trip with a bunch of submorons. you would think the corporation would want some ex sof quality private contractors to handle those situations. or at least morons.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:50 PM (cPsPa)

316 --Speaking of The Thing . . .


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:47 PM


Always up for a "Thing" convo! Though I fear we're gonna get stomped. I rate The Thing on par with Alien. It's better in some aspects.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:51 PM (lmIoG)

317 AshevilleRob - Tom, Dick, or Harry?

A few years ago an old guy of the appropriate vintage came into the museum wearing a P-47 hat. I laughingly said "hope you weren't shot down" (P-47's legendary toughness/capacity for sustaining battle damage and still flying) - he laughed and said he *had* been shot down. March (?) 1945, just in time for an "easy" two months at one of the camps near the one depicted in Great Escape.

He said the long-term POWs gave him quite a bit of s**t - by the time he got there, Fritz was everyone's friend, Red Cross rations were all coming out of storage, because the Allies were within a hundred miles, and the krauts all knew how the game was going to turn out.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:51 PM (QDnY+)

318 Mister Roberts on TMC at 9:30pm.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 09:52 PM (IDPbH)

319 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits


Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM

Yep, It got from the story that they were not used to a challenge. "It's a bug hunt".

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM (lmIoG)

320 Always up for a "Thing" convo! Though I fear we're gonna get stomped. I rate The Thing on par with Alien. It's better in some aspects.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:51 PM (lmIoG)

--IMHO it's better, period. Maybe not in SFX, but in suspense no question.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM (GsAUU)

321 Thanks ITC! The info was in "Snow and Steel", a history of the Bulge I recommend.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 27, 2017 09:54 PM (QDnY+)

322
303 Another vote for Horatio Hornblower. The first two series are excellent.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:44 PM (iHjB5)


Agreed.

The Sand Pebbles was where I recall first hearing the phrase "It's his rice bowl" to refer to someone's not altogether necessary "job".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 09:54 PM (+8Yuj)

323 "AshevilleRob - Tom, Dick, or Harry?"

I'd have to find the article again. The Germans found Tom, and they stopped working on one (and salvaged shoring timbers, etc.) to put all of their effort into finishing the other remaining one but I can't remember which.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 27, 2017 09:56 PM (w+Jhj)

324 Dang, Kat Timpf has bony arms.

She needs to get knocked up.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (GsAUU)

325 >>Master & Commander is a mash-up of two of something like seventeen 350 page novels. By necessity a lot gets left out.


Just 2 of the 20 really. The whole series has much more. Much.

This is what pisses me off about Hollywood. This is a ready made series, a great one with interesting characters and a rich story, and instead they remake Ghostbusters with girlzzz.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2017 09:57 PM (/tuJf)

326
315 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May




yeah but seems really inefficient to send a really expensive ship on a really long trip with a bunch of submorons. you would think the corporation would want some ex sof quality private contractors to handle those situations. or at least morons.

Posted by: YankeeFifth at May 27, 2017 09:50 PM (cPsPa)







I always got the impression that the whole rescue/recon was a semi-rogue operation, dreamed up by Burke using whatever assets he could scrape together from the company and the Colonial Administration without attracting too much attention.

In fact, the company as a whole is pretty much unaware of what's going on. He admits as much later in the film, when he talks about how if he made it a major security situation, then EVERYONE would get involved, and there'd be no exclusive rights for anyone. He was planning on doing the whole operation on the sly, and then presenting the alien to the company and getting a fat bonus.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (quw2O)

327 --IMHO it's better, period. Maybe not in SFX, but in suspense no question.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM


I'm inclined to agree. I saw Alien on the big screen on it's first run and was convinced it could never be topped. Over the years, with repeated viewings, The Thing just keeps climbing higher. I skipped it at the movies at the time, but caught it at a one off screening at the cinema a few years ago. Holy shit! I wish I wasn't so cynical about remaking Hawks' flich at the time. What a masterpiece.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)

328 The Thing. Best suspense movie ever. Period.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 10:01 PM (CNHr1)

329 I didn't see The Thing for the first time just a few years ago. I caught it on VHS back in the 80's.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:01 PM (lmIoG)

330 I'm inclined to agree. I saw Alien on the big screen on it's first run and was convinced it could never be topped. Over the years, with repeated viewings, The Thing just keeps climbing higher. I skipped it at the movies at the time, but caught it at a one off screening at the cinema a few years ago. Holy shit! I wish I wasn't so cynical about remaking Hawks' flich at the time. What a masterpiece.
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)

--Not sure if you've seen Stranger Things (and given the libtardism of the cast/crew, I would understand if you never did), but a lot of it is a big homage to the 1981 The Thing.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:02 PM (GsAUU)

331 Nigel Farage coming up on Gutfeld.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:03 PM (GsAUU)

332 The Thing. Best suspense movie ever. Period.


Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 10:01 PM


And just as good as Alien at doing characterization, but with 12 instead of just 7. It gets massive bonus points for that.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:05 PM (lmIoG)

333
327 --IMHO it's better, period. Maybe not in SFX, but in suspense no question.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 09:53 PM


I'm inclined to agree. I saw Alien on the big screen on it's first run and was convinced it could never be topped. Over the years, with repeated viewings, The Thing just keeps climbing higher. I skipped it at the movies at the time, but caught it at a one off screening at the cinema a few years ago. Holy shit! I wish I wasn't so cynical about remaking Hawks' flich at the time. What a masterpiece.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:59 PM (lmIoG)








Funny thing, it's pretty much the only Carpenter film that really stands the test of time. MAYBE Big Trouble in Little China, but as much as I love BTiLC, it's a little dated. It's Carpenter's music score that drags it down.

On the other hand, Morricone's score for The Thing is masterful.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM (quw2O)

334 258
U must, as a man go to those screenings and threat to sue and act upon it.
Posted by: Me at May 27, 2017 09:20 PM (idhyN)


What if I don't want to see Wonder Woman?

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM (sdi6R)

335 Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Cutthroat Island.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 09:09 PM

Me too. We're in the "I actually bought a ticket to CI" club, the few, the regretful. It was lame. However, I don't mind it much now...
Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 09:34

Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? It was some POS Uwe Boll did w/ Meat Loaf, Micheal Masen and Sir Ben Kingsley. Don't recall the
name and it was so shitty I won't be bothered to look up the name.

OK, I gave in cause I wanted to know if anyone else saw this...it was BloodRayne. Wife was a big Meat Loaf fan so we saw it in limited release.

Yeah, it was limited for a reason. I understand Uwe Boll is usually crappy, only movie of his I've seen, but I'll buy that.

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM (o/90i)

336
Worst movie I ever saw in the theater? Anchorman 2

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 10:07 PM (+8Yuj)

337 In fact, the company as a whole is pretty much unaware of what's going on. He admits as much later in the film, when he talks about how if he made it a major security situation, then EVERYONE would get involved, and there'd be no exclusive rights for anyone. He was planning on doing the whole operation on the sly, and then presenting the alien to the company and getting a fat bonus.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 09:58 PM (quw2O)
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Hmmm...very astute.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 10:07 PM (NT3RT)

338 --Not sure if you've seen Stranger Things (and given the libtardism of the cast/crew, I would understand if you never did), but a lot of it is a big homage to the 1981 The Thing.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:02 PM


Really? I'll keep on eye open for it.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:07 PM (lmIoG)

339 OK, I gave in cause I wanted to know if anyone else saw this...it was BloodRayne. Wife was a big Meat Loaf fan so we saw it in limited release.

Yeah, it was limited for a reason. I understand Uwe Boll is usually crappy, only movie of his I've seen, but I'll buy that.


Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM


Bloodrayne?? I LOVE Bloodrayne. That is Uwe Boll's bad movie Citizen Kane. It's sucktastic!

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM (lmIoG)

340 The ending of The Thing also leaves you in suspense, but not in a gulling way.

It's great storytelling.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM (GsAUU)

341
ONT is NOOD

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 10:10 PM (quw2O)

342 Nigel Farage has such a fucking cool accent.

He should do a cameo as a villain (ideally in a Bind flick), just to piss libtards off royally.

--and as Greg just said, he's apparently a FNC contributor now, so I look forward to more of him on screen.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:12 PM (GsAUU)

343
41 That mummy's girlfriend is hawt.
Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2017 07:41 PM (zLDYs)


And a former professional figure skater with substance abuse issues: Oksana Baiul.

Finally!

* crosses that off list of bad puns he'd been waiting to use for years *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 27, 2017 10:13 PM (+8Yuj)

344 On the other hand, Morricone's score for The Thing is masterful.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 27, 2017 10:06 PM


Arguably the most effective score in a movie, ever.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:15 PM (lmIoG)

345 The ending of The Thing also leaves you in suspense, but not in a gulling way.

It's great storytelling.


Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 10:09 PM


Absolutely. Love the grim finale. "None of us is getting out of here alive. But... neither is that thing."

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:17 PM (lmIoG)

346 I couldn't find the exact trailer for "Paprika" that I first saw on the internet.

But, it was awesome. Almost an emotionally moving experience by itself.

Here's something that's close:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anu2IrsUlVs


but the trailer I saw used this song- "The Girl in the Byakkoya" throughout-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMc2EW6Pmkk


Too bad the movie couldn't live up the the trailer.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 10:22 PM (9q7Dl)

347 I always figured the Colonial Marines weren't
exactly the top of the totem pole in the miltiary, that they were given
substandard gear and not the best and brightest recruits
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 27, 2017 09:48 PM (39g3+)


In a way they are the ones that get shipped out, live in horrible conditions and get to come home to meet their brothers' grand-children.

The British colonial forces and the East Indian Company troops had similar issues: any promotion meant little in the regular service and in society in general, and even if the pay was better, you still ran the risk of dying of disease and prickly heat and poisonous snakes while you got to put down native riots that affected tea shipments, or some such.
So they got the men who were issues, and officers that tended to be no-hopers or were insanely ambitious.

My take on the Colonial Marines was that by this time they really didn't care who they shot, they just wanted to go home.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 10:24 PM (mkDpn)

348 Most famous recent movie that had a shitty, shitty trailer and yet was a damn good film... Guardians of the Galaxy 1.

The trailer made me actually not want to see the movie, which I now regret missing in the theater.

Go to the YouTube page and you will see lots of comments about this - especially with the early comments about how much it's going to suck. It's an object lesson in missing the freakin' mark. They made it look goofy and unserious, which unfortunately only tells half the story.

Posted by: Mega at May 27, 2017 10:25 PM (rv0Fo)

349 In a way they are the ones that get shipped out, live in horrible conditions and get to come home to meet their brothers' grand-children.

The British colonial forces and the East Indian Company troops had similar issues: any promotion meant little in the regular service and in society in general, and even if the pay was better, you still ran the risk of dying of disease and prickly heat and poisonous snakes while you got to put down native riots that affected tea shipments, or some such.
So they got the men who were issues, and officers that tended to be no-hopers or were insanely ambitious.

My take on the Colonial Marines was that by this time they really didn't care who they shot, they just wanted to go home.


Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 10:24 PM


Yeah. My take on the colonial marines (Foster's book might have elaborated on this, I can't quite remember) is that they weren't exactly crack troops and were used to only minor inconveniences, generally... despite loading up for serious encounters.

Posted by: otho at May 27, 2017 10:32 PM (lmIoG)

350 TJM... nice job on Moby trailer. It was very well done. Love these threads, especially that they happen Saturday night so I can hit the comments on them on Sunday morning instead of reading politics... I would seriously miss them if they stopped.

I really like your analysis posts, like the one from the first couple weeks where you discussed theme, plot, character, etc. Oddly enough I could not have disagreed with your order more (I demand characters and plot), but found the post fascinating nonetheless. You and I also have very divergent tastes in movies, which would actually follow from that. Future post ideas - I would love to see more analysis. For example:

- why certain famous scenes work so well
- how stories are told strictly through visual means - blocking, lighting, tight vs wide scope, etc
- the perils and importance of exposition, and how good movies navigate around them, and bad movies don't
- timeshifting - why/how/when viewers need to see certain things happening and can skip others (for example showing a character driving to a location vs just appearing there in the next scene)

Hopefully some food for thought for future threads!!!!

Posted by: Mega at May 27, 2017 10:35 PM (rv0Fo)

351 "What if I dont wanna see Wonder Woman?"

Irrelevant, this is taking it for the team. The left works as one, that's why they win. We need to take a cue. They cannot be allowed to do this, period.

Posted by: Me at May 27, 2017 10:54 PM (idhyN)

352 Nice thread, TheJames. I appreciate your work on these.

I recall at least one trailer that put me off the movie. I took my son to see some movie, and a trailer before it was for Polar Express, a Christmas movie. It was 98 degrees outside and I don't much care for Christmas stories anyway except for the classics. Especially in July.

The trailer was so bombastic and overwrought it almost made me mad. In the short gap of silence between that trailer and the next I said to my kid "I hate Christmas". People around us started cracking up.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 11:15 PM (Uysai)

353 Video games have trailers now too.

Starcraft 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVtXac6if14

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:24 PM (V8zw+)

354 My dad went to see Jackass: The Movie solely based on a commercial where a midget kicked himself in the face. He didn't ask me about it. About 15 mins. into the movie he walked out.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:35 PM (V8zw+)

355 logprof, there are two versions of most of the Aubrey / Maturin series on Audible. I went with the Stephen Vance version, but the other one seems well rated, if slower paced.

Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:52 PM (V8zw+)

356 355 logprof, there are two versions of most of the Aubrey / Maturin series on Audible. I went with the Stephen Vance version, but the other one seems well rated, if slower paced.
Posted by: goodluckduck at May 27, 2017 11:52 PM (V8zw+)

--Thanks! I'll have to check them out. . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 28, 2017 12:11 AM (GsAUU)

357 What's the difference between a preview and a trailer? Or is there a difference?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 28, 2017 12:14 AM (LeUrG)

358 Trailer for The Godfather is the strangest I've ever seen. No dialogue, lots of music, and lots of spolers.

Posted by: MikeN at May 28, 2017 12:28 AM (o/eHL)

359 Funny . . . the reason I wasn't around to participate in this thread this evening: I was watching Carpenter's The Thing. It really holds up. Great cast; the amount of character they manage to squeeze into so little dialogue and still keep the movie moving at a fast pace . . . hard to top.

Someone mentioned that Carpenter's other films don't hold up so well. Generally true. But I still enjoy They Live quite a bit.

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Ex-Clerk at May 28, 2017 01:29 AM (H5knJ)

360 What's the difference between a preview and a trailer? Or is there a difference?
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They're the same. Previews used to be shown after the main attraction. Hence "trailers".

Posted by: Mega at May 28, 2017 03:12 AM (rv0Fo)

361 Loved the trailer, the movie not so much:

Prometheus
Suicide Squad

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 28, 2017 04:04 AM (v3DL/)

362 TJM - Re Moby Dick trailer: I thought you were trying for a Jaws-ian vibe, with the "slightly foreboding, now it's a jaunty sea adventure, now it's explosive, OMG we're gonna die cuts" trajectory. I might have liked that better than the "slightly foreboding, rising sea shanty, Deadliest Catch outtakes, coffin." I see you were going for art house, though. Not bad.

I've had "Knights of Badassdom" in my queue forever, waiting for the right mood to strike. Hmmm. Your review did not move me to see if any time soon.

Posted by: Gem at May 28, 2017 07:18 AM (uaHyk)

363 And my pet peeve about trailers are ones that basically tell you the whole movie. No point in seeing it if you know the beginning, the middle and the end.

Posted by: Gem at May 28, 2017 07:21 AM (uaHyk)

364 We went to see the latest Fast & Furious movie-the trailers before the movie were 30 MINUTES long.

Posted by: Mike at May 28, 2017 09:07 AM (oGI1N)

Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread 05-27-2017


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Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry playing chess in Fry's rooms at Cambridge, 1980


Good afternoon morons and moronettes, and welcome to the Saturday Afternoon Chess/Open Thread, the only AoSHQ thread with content specifically for all of us chess nerds who pay homage in the temple of Caïssa, goddess of the chessboard. Also, dress pr0n. Each week, for the 'ettes, I try to pick out a few lovely, conservative dresses to ooh and ooh over. And, for those of you who aren't nerdly enough for chess, you can use this thread to talk about checkers, or other games, or politics, or whatever you wish, only please try to keep it civil. Nobody wants to get in the middle of a pie fight on a Saturday afternoon.


Problem 1 - White To Play (209)

Hint: White mates in 3


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r3k3/4bR2/pp2P1p1/2pp2qp/3Pp3/4P1P1/PP1B3P/5QK1 w q - 0 1

Problem 2 - Black To Play (191)

There are two paths to victory here. Find both.

Hint: Black mates in 2


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Problem 3 - White To Play (485)

6...Bg4? was a crappy move for Black. White has just responded 7.Nxe5. Black's choices seem to be either 7...Bxd1 or 7...dxe5. How will White proceed in each case?

Hint: Eat queen, lose game; eat knight, lose queen


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rn1qkb1r/ppp2ppp/3p4/4N3/2B3b1/2P5/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b kq - 0 7
After 7.Nxe5


Problem 4 - White To Play (BWTC 145)

Hint: White mates in 4


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Endgame of the Week (Endgame 50823)

This is kind of a toughie, so the hint is fairly extensive. It's White to play.

Hint: If it were Black's move, he would move Rc4 and then pick off the pawn next move to secure the draw. White has two choices to prevent this, but only one is correct. Once the correct choice is made, White must proceed carefully, with the knowledge that there are some stalemate opportunities that Black can use to attempt to force the draw.


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2B5/2P5/8/8/1r6/8/8/k2K4 w - - 0 1


Saturday Dress Pr0n

Here is a screen-shot I grabbed of actress Yvonne Strahovski as "Serena Joy" in the Hulu TV series The Handmaid's Tale. Mrs. Muse helped me add the right amount of light and color to the original picture so the dress can be seen better. In my opinion, it's a bit severe for a formal evening dress, but it is well in keeping with the tenor of the series. Perhaps a string of pearls around her neck would be a nice touch.

Also, Ms. Strahovski actually has a delightful smile, but in this role, she doesn't get many opportunities to show it.


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Now here's some old-school beauty:


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Don't know where the first one is from, the the second is a publicity still from the movie Roman Holiday (1953).

I could probably fill up the dress pr0n section every week with shots of Audrey Hepburn. She is truly a classic beauty.


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Solutions Update

Problem 1 - White To Play


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r3k3/4bR2/pp2P1p1/2pp2qp/3Pp3/4P1P1/PP1B3P/5QK1 w q - 0 1

1.Rf8+ Bxf8
2.Qf7+ Kd8
3.Qd7#

From Damiano vs. SHC (some hapless cretin), 1512. It probably wasn't from an actual game. More likely, it was a study or a theoretical position he discovered.


Problem 2 - Black To Play


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4k3/5p2/p3p1p1/1p2P2r/5P2/P1N5/1Pr2qQP/4R1RK b - - 0 1

1...Rxh2+
2.Qxh2 Qxh2#

That's the first path. Or, White could make the initial capture with his king.

2.Kxh2 Qh4#

And that's the second.


Problem 3 - White To Play


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rn1qkb1r/ppp2ppp/3p4/4N3/2B3b1/2P5/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b kq - 0 7
After 7.Nxe5

7.Nxe5 Bxd1
8.Bxf7+ Ke7
9.Bg5#

Which is a little reminiscent of Légal's mate

But taking the queen isn't forced. Black could always try to take the knight.

7...dxe5
8.Bxf7+ Ke7

Or if 8...Kxf7, then 9.Qxd8

9.Bg5+ Kxf7
10.Qxd8

And White has won the queen.


Problem 4 - White To Play


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rnb3kr/ppp2ppp/1b6/3q4/3pN3/Q4N2/PPP2KPP/R1B1R3 w - - 0 1

1.Nf6+ gxf6
2.Qf8+ Kxf8
3.Bh6+ Kg8
4.Re8#


Endgame of the Week


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2B5/2P5/8/8/1r6/8/8/k2K4 w - - 0 1

So, in order to stop 1...Rc4, White has two options, Ba6 or Be6. The latter leads to failure:

1.Be6? Rb1+
2.Kd2 Rc1
3.Kxc1

Forced, otherwise Rxc7 draw. Only now it's stalemate because the bishop on e6 cuts off the Black king's only escape square. White needs to be constantly on the lookout against these sorts of stalemate threats. This line, by the way, is the reason why 1.Be6 is the wrong move.

The correct move is

1. Ba6!

1...Rd4+

Black wants 2.Kc1 Rc4+ 3.Bxc4 (forced) stalemate. Or 2.Ke1 followed by 2...Re4+ etc. perpetual. White can derail that train with:

2.Bd3 Rxd3+
3.Kc2 Rd4

Another stalemate trap. If now 4.c8=Q then Rc4+ 5.Qxc4 stalemate.

So the solution is to underpromote

4.c8=R Ra4

To guard against Ra8#

5.Kb3 and wins

White threatens both Rc1# and Kxa4 and Black cannot defend against both.

Hope to see you all next week!

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Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

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So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 05:07 PM




Comments

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1 Good afternoon.

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 05:07 PM (DrCtv)

2 First! Now for the content.

Posted by: Darles Chickens at May 27, 2017 05:08 PM (Z8NdJ)

3 Rats!

Posted by: Darles Chickens at May 27, 2017 05:08 PM (Z8NdJ)

4 I coulda been a contender

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 05:09 PM (Ot7+c)

5 Dress pron? Hmmmm. Not really my cup of tea but they do look to be nice dresses.

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 05:10 PM (DrCtv)

6 I just bet Stephen Fry liked playing with Hugh Laurie -- he rode cox for Oxford!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 05:11 PM (NT3RT)

7 Stephen Fry liked to capture the bishop IYKWIMAITYD NTTAWWT

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:12 PM (GsAUU)

8 Ah hell with it,
(Tosses first pie at HH)

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 05:14 PM (Ot7+c)

9 Both shots of Audrey are great.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:14 PM (GsAUU)

10 Problem 1:
1. Rf8+ Bxf8
2. Qf7+ Kd8
3. Qd7#

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:16 PM (sdi6R)

11 Wait, Audrey Hepburn looks nothing like Michelle Obama, the epitome of beauty!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 27, 2017 05:16 PM (0yvhn)

12 OM, you could also look at stills from Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers movies. Ginger Rogers wore some awesome dresses designed to be moved in.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 05:16 PM (mkDpn)

13 YAY THE GAME THREAD OMG OMG YAY

And do we have some drama for you this week:

First off, Far Cry 5... yeah. Moooving right along...

Then there's that mess over Wargaming's "World Of Tanks", which started last week, but I'd missed it. They put out a free-to-play game funded by microtransactions. And then they sold a superweapon tank which you had to supply with paid ammo. One of their premium players - apparently they give perks to certain of their players with the understanding they won't talk too much trash about the game - went rogue and said "fuck this game in particular" (possible moron!).

And then Wargaming threatened to shut him down using the DMCA copyright tools to do it. This is, of course, an abuse of the DMCA and my god, the shitstorm that ensued. Jim Sterling got involved, and then so did The Know, and eventually Wargaming had to eat a crow the size of a large buzzard.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:17 PM (6FqZa)

14
Sad news about the Gatlin Boys. I loved them on Hee Haw.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:18 PM (a6O80)

15 OM, you could also look at stills from Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers movies. Ginger Rogers wore some awesome dresses designed to be moved in.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 05:16 PM (mkDpn)


Yah, thanks for that tip, I'll bet there are some great photos.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 05:18 PM (Z3xqO)

16 And, two days to go before The Long Journey Home goes live on Steam. Initial reviews are favourable. Since my car is b0rken I am stuck here... not playing this game. WHICH SUCKS.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:19 PM (6FqZa)

17 Look how young Fry and Laurie look. Yikes.

The dresses are lovely, OMuse - thank you! Yes, I agree that the dark green one is a little severe. It needs some bling to dress it up, maybe.

Audrey Hepburn could wear Michelle O's clothes and still look elegant, but I much prefer her in her own clothes. Edith Head sure knew how to dress her for her movies.

Thank you for spoiling us 'ettes, OMuse. Good stuff. I'll bet Mrs. Muse enjoys looking for these with you.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:19 PM (sBOL1)

18 Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 05:14 PM (Ot7+c)

Ahh, pumpkin. Tastes good...

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 05:21 PM (DrCtv)

19 (Tosses second pie at ricki)

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 05:24 PM (Ot7+c)

20 Good afternoon Horde. Haven't read a thing. Bummed about Greg Allman. Geez.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:25 PM (lwiT4)

21 I wouldn't mind a pie fight if it were pecan pie. Or peach pie. Or raspberry pie. Or key lime pie.

Pretty much any pie except banana or coconut, really.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:25 PM (sBOL1)

22 In other news Red Dead III Redemption 2 got bumped to 2018 and will not be previewed at E3. The relevant studio, RockStar, is swimming in cash, due to putting out games that are good, so can afford to tweak this game before release.

Everyone forgot that Jedi Knight was actually a sequel (to Dark Forces) after it came out, and wowed the gaming world, so its sequel was Jedi Knight 2 rather than DF3. I guess something similar happened with RD3 / RDR2.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:26 PM (6FqZa)

23 grammie! The Rev still under the weather, I understand? Any help from the ENT doc yesterday?

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:26 PM (sBOL1)

24 I always wanted to be Audrey Hepburn when I grew up. I did and I'm not. I think she's seriously the single most divine creature ever.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:27 PM (lwiT4)

25
A tiny woman, she was.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:27 PM (a6O80)

26 I'm reading a Kindle sample of The Allure of Battle.

Interesting take: That generals and kings have for 300 years plus had a hard-on chasing that will o' the wisp of the Genius Commander winning the quick, sharp set-piece battle that clinched the war decidedly, when in reality wars have been won unglamorously with sieges and trenches against fortresses and other battlements through attrition. The relatively quick wars of German Unification were the proverbial exceptions that proved the rule, and only served to delude German war planners as the twentieth century began.

One battle that may take some Morons aback as overblown was Tours, apparently given excessive significance by idolaters of the Big Battle like Creasy, which was more a defeat of forward scouts than a clash of great armies. In the I Shit You Not category, the author adds that Hitler ascribed great importance to Tours as well, and he lamented that the Muslims lost, arguing that the glories of the Germans would have been greater under Islam. [Well, I guess Frau Merkel will give us the counterfactual, won't she?]

I knew Hitler liked the Mohammedans, but damn. To quote the philosopher Jim Lahey, birds of a shitfeather flock together.

Thus endeth the long history comment.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:27 PM (GsAUU)

27 Problem 2:
1. ...Rxh2+
2. Qxh2 Qxh2#

1. ...Rxh2+
2. Kxh2 Qh4#

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:28 PM (sdi6R)

28 20 Good afternoon Horde. Haven't read a thing. Bummed about Greg Allman. Geez.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:25 PM (lwiT4)

--You like baseball, grammie.

Don't forget Jim Bunning.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (GsAUU)

29 Hi bluebell. They think he might have labyrinthitis. I didn't know that was a thing but apparently it is. They're hitting him pretty hard with steroids - 60 mg of Pred a day. I hope it cures him quick. A) He's cutting into my sloth time, and B) I don't want him bloated for my son's wedding.


I'm a very compassionate wife, I am.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (lwiT4)

30
Catherine Hepburn, however, was a tall woman. Taller than the married letch Spencer Tracy she was having an affair with.

Catherine Hepburn was pretty, for a few years of her life. But she was no beauty. And her acting sucked, mostly.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (a6O80)

31 So what's that about the Gatlins? Saw that Gregg Allman is dead.

And always loved the song "All the gold in California".

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 05:30 PM (DrCtv)

32 Oh bluebell - speaking of dresses, you got a minute?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:30 PM (lwiT4)

33 logprof : another example of a battle not deciding nearly as much as people think it did was the Spanish Armada fail in 1588. Yay, the English won. That engagement. Right after that the Spanish beat the English all over the Atlantic and, a decade or so later, forced a treaty down our throats.

There's Reasons that North America got settled in the early 1600s and not the late 1500s.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:31 PM (6FqZa)

34 Labyrinthitis? Is he going to turn into a minotaur? Poor Rev. I hope the steroids do the trick, and quickly.

You need your sloth time back.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:32 PM (sBOL1)

35 Oh bluebell - speaking of dresses, you got a minute?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:30 PM (lwiT4)
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Hit me

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:33 PM (sBOL1)

36

After facing a backlash for pulling advertisements from Fox News’ host Sean Hannity’s show, USAA will no longer run ads on liberal MSNBC host Rachel Maddow’s show.

The insurance company originally claimed that it would no longer run ads on “Hannity” because of a company policy against airing ads on “opinion shows.” The Media Research Center then revealed that the company had placed ads on MSNBC shows hosted by Maddow, Chris Hayes and Lawrence O’Donnell, all of whom present the news from a liberal viewpoint.

USAA told ABC News that it aired ads on the three shows by accident, and will take steps to ensure that that doesn’t happen again in the future. That announcement followed USAA members flooding the company’s Facebook page with angry comments. Many commenters said they would take their business elsewhere in retaliation for MSNBC pulling the ads.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2017 05:33 PM (IqV8l)

37 Audrey lived through the Dutch occupation from the Nazi's I think. I have seen lots of her movies but of course think War and Peace is the best.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 05:33 PM (Ot7+c)

38 So, bluebell - I ordered a gown from a bridal shop here in town last January. It still is not in. My son's wedding is in four weeks. So I ordered a backup:


http://tinyurl.com/ybxlj4v9


I like the backup better than the one I ordered from the bridal shop. Rev said WOW. I think it's a home run. Makes me look really little.


Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:34 PM (lwiT4)

39 USAA told ABC News that it aired ads on the three shows by accident
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Oh yes. I can totally see how that would happen. Totally.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:35 PM (sBOL1)

40 Big fan of The Allman Brothers. So bummed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 05:36 PM (pV/54)

41 33 logprof : another example of a battle not deciding nearly as much as people think it did was the Spanish Armada fail in 1588. Yay, the English won. That engagement. Right after that the Spanish beat the English all over the Atlantic and, a decade or so later, forced a treaty down our throats.

There's Reasons that North America got settled in the early 1600s and not the late 1500s.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:31 PM (6FqZa)

--It was also more lucrative to plunder the Spanish like Drake did than to colonize North America at the time, which was why the latter was farmed out to private concerns.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:36 PM (GsAUU)

42 Oh grammie, I LOVE LOVE LOVE that dress. Keep it. Cancel the other one. Tell them you don't want to take the chance that it won't come in time. Tell them your husband is a minotaur and you might let him loose in their shop if they won't cancel it. Be bold.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:36 PM (sBOL1)

43 Gregg Allman died.

Will Neil Young remember that Southern man doesn't need him.

Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:37 PM (EX4Wr)

44 Audrey lived through the Dutch occupation from the Nazi's I think. I have seen lots of her movies but of course think War and Peace is the best.
Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 05:33 PM (Ot7+c)
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She worked for the Resistance, too. She was a ballerina, and they used to give her notes to pass on. She would put them in her ballet shoes so they would not be detected.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:38 PM (sBOL1)

45 USAA's customer base is veterans and their families. How the hell did they get away with it for so long?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:38 PM (GsAUU)

46 So you like it too, bluebell? It has some glittery bits on the top that make it quite attractive, it hits me right at the toe top so I can wear a little heel and it won't drag on the floor when I'm dancing. And it's modest.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:38 PM (lwiT4)

47 Problem 3:
1. ...Bxd1
2. Bxf7+ Ke7
3. Bf5#

1. ...dxe5
2. Bxf7 Kxf7
3. Qxd8
(if 2. ...Ke7, 3. Bf5+ and the queen is going down one way or the other.)

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:39 PM (sdi6R)

48 Yvonne Strahovski is dressed the way Jane Eyre would dress when ordered to attend after dinner. And then she would sit in the corner and hide.

Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:39 PM (EX4Wr)

49 grammie, let me put it in terms you'll understand best:

It's a grand slam.

Keep it.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:39 PM (sBOL1)

50 I was too young to see the ABB with Duane, but saw them in 73 and many times since.

Unique sound, often jazz influenced.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 05:40 PM (pV/54)

51 Sometimes I feel ... sometimes I feel ..
Like I been tied ... to.the.whippin'. post...

Posted by: grump928(c) at May 27, 2017 05:40 PM (apyCW)

52 English fagginess creeps me out. Stephen Frye is a poofter.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 05:41 PM (vRcUp)

53 Soothie I love both Hepburns, and I love both their styles and acting but in different ways.

There is an adorable children's book about Audrey Hepburn called Just Being Audrey I highly recommend!

A friend of mine has become obsessed with Audrey's style but had never seen her classic films, so it's been fun educating her. We've watched roman holiday and Sabrina, will watch Funny Face next. I found a recipe of Audreys that according to her son she loved to make, spaghetti al pomodoro. Want to try it soon. Town & Country posted the recipe. Also posted Sinatra's famous fettuccine alfredo recipe.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:41 PM (ZSEpY)

54 And it's modest.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:38 PM (lwiT4)
---
They'll never know the truth, Grammie!

It's beautiful! I like the asymmetry of the top.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 05:41 PM (NT3RT)

55 USAA's customer base is veterans and their families. How the hell did they get away with it for so long?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:38 PM (GsAUU)


They got snagged by showing their rainbow colors.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 05:41 PM (6qmBU)

56 It's a grand slam.



Keep it.





Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:39 PM (sBOL1)
============

Okie doke. That's what I thought too. It's nice to have confirmation from someone who knows dresses. Heaven forbid I would have to count on Oregon Muse. Or boulder terlit hobo.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:42 PM (lwiT4)

57 Mr. Muse,

Can't say I like the first dress very much at all. Audrey Hepburn, on the other hand, made all her clothes look elegant and they still were secondary to her beauty.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:42 PM (+tKYk)

58 Yvonne Strahovski was great in "Chuck." I didn't even know she had an Australian accent until I saw a blooper reel. Green looks fantastic on her, which I should keep in mind, since we look quite a bit alike.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (ar2KI)

59 Eh, OMuse seems to know his stuff. bth, I'm not so sure.

There are plenty of others I wouldn't trust though.

But the dress is a winnah.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (sBOL1)

60 Personally, on reflecting about the contrasting views of warfare, I don't mind the grind of attrition warfare from the safety of retrospect, since I love castles and fortresses, while Big Ass Battles don't leave many remnants 100+ years later.

For one, Yorktown was more of a siege than a battle.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (GsAUU)

61
...I love both Hepburns, and I love both their styles and acting but in different ways.

You probably like Shemp, too, as a Stooge.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (a6O80)

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (a6O80)

63 Fry and Laurie will always be Bertie and Jeeves for me, hah. Handmaiden's Tale is on the to watch list along with a million other things.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:44 PM (ZSEpY)

64 It's beautiful! I like the asymmetry of the top.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 05:41 PM (NT3RT)
==================

I like that part too. It creates the illusion of a flat tummy. Believe me, that's an illusion.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:44 PM (lwiT4)

65 Grammie,

Your second choice looks absolutely smashing. I think you'll look stunning in it.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:45 PM (+tKYk)

66 Recently saw part of Breakfast at Tiffanys.

Author Truman Capote and Audrey herself thought her miscast in a role as a wannabe NYC courtesan originally intended for Marilyn Monroe. Audrey brought grace and elegance to the role and made it tragic and bittersweet,

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 05:45 PM (pV/54)

67 My degree was in ancient Mediterranean civilisations, not in dressmaking so much. If I was asked to design a dress it would probably look like this
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/505388389406930516/

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:46 PM (6FqZa)

68 IIRC, Charles Martel's forces had shields that would hook together. They could stand there and not break the line of defense.

Where is MPPP with two stories. 1: The time William Holden comes in and finds Audrey Hepburn and Ciccolina in bed and 2: the time Sophia Loren and Carlo Ponti "dine" with Audrey Hepburn in Switzerland.

The Battle of Tours is great. Right up there with the Battle of Vienna.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:46 PM (EX4Wr)

69 Okie doke. That's what I thought too. It's nice to have confirmation from someone who knows dresses. Heaven forbid I would have to count on Oregon Muse.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:42 PM (lwiT4)


( *folds arms* )

Hmmph! I'm insulted. Here I am, providing top quality dress pr0n week after week, and I still can't get no respect.

It's an outrage, I say.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 05:47 PM (Z3xqO)

70 67 My degree was in ancient Mediterranean civilisations, not in dressmaking so much. If I was asked to design a dress it would probably look like this
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/505388389406930516/
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:46 PM (6FqZa)



--ZOMG those Minoan women totes culturally appropriated hoop earrings from Latina chicks!!11!!!!1!!

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:48 PM (GsAUU)

71 *Note to self: boulder terlit hobo is a nice guy, but do not encourage him to go into the dressmaking biz.*

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:48 PM (sBOL1)

72 The first movie I saw Audrey Hepburn in was "Robin and Marian", about Robin Hood returning home from the Crusades. Robin Hood is now a grizzled, disillusioned veteran and Marian an abbess, and they get the merry band back together for one last fight against the Sheriff of Nottingham. It was a really beautiful story of love rekindled.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 05:48 PM (NT3RT)

73 Thank you washrivergal. I've not met many members of son's fiance's family, so I'm trying my best to put my best foot forward. My other dress was sleeveless, so I've been working on those hangy parts under my upper arms. 6 months later I still have hangy parts, so illusion sleeves will be better. For everyone.


Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:49 PM (lwiT4)

74 Man, those Minoans are a surly bunch.

Posted by: More Lost Diaries of Margaret Mead at May 27, 2017 05:50 PM (wpC7C)

75
She worked for the Resistance, too. She was a ballerina, and they used to give her notes to pass on. She would put them in her ballet shoes so they would not be detected.
Posted by: bluebell


I am the queen of the Resistance. I snuggle notes in my Depends.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 27, 2017 05:50 PM (IqV8l)

76 Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:49 PM (lwiT4)

+++

You're still a knock-out.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:50 PM (+tKYk)

77 Somebody needs a sandwich.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 05:50 PM (IDPbH)

78 It's an outrage, I say.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 05:47 PM (Z3xqO)
========================

*pinches OM's cheeks. Tussles his hair. Does the spit-thing on his cowlick.*

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:51 PM (lwiT4)

79 I need illusion everything, grammie. Better yet, I need everyone to wear fuzzy filter glasses. And the lighting needs to be candlelight. By which I mean one candle in an otherwise dark room.

Even then I don't think I could convince a soul I'm 29.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:51 PM (sBOL1)

80 The Minoan women really outdid Viennese women in the highlighting of the breasts.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:51 PM (EX4Wr)

81 61
...I love both Hepburns, and I love both their styles and acting but in different ways. You probably like Shemp, too, as a Stooge. Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (a6O80)

I don't know the Stooges well enough to get that. Hopefully not a barrelable offense! If I need to get off people's lawns I will.

Kathy was great in a lot of things but I liked her later work best. More gravitas. Is great in Lion in Winter. But yes her easy chemistry with Tracy can be overshadowed by their personal life together and their affair.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:52 PM (ZSEpY)

82 I remember watching "A Nun's Story" starring Audrey Hepburn when I was in the 9th grade. Made me want to be a nun, even though I was Baptist.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:53 PM (lwiT4)

83 67 My degree was in ancient Mediterranean civilisations, not in dressmaking so much. If I was asked to design a dress it would probably look like this
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/505388389406930516/
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:46 PM (6FqZa)


That gets the Moron Seal of Approval (tm).

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

84 BTH, yes and no: Boyaca was the result of an insane forced march up the Andes by Bolivar and his Venezuelan army against Spanish forces holding Bogota. It was everything that a sharp set piece battle to settle things was supposed to be.

After that, it was only in Bolivar and Gran Colombian forces' hands to loose the war, it was never in the Spanish force's hands to win. (and my goodness, the Gran Colombians tried at times)

You could say the same thing about San Martin at Chacabuco,though part of that was O'Higgins realizing while moving forward he was half way down the Spanish' throat and deciding to jump all the way in and kick his way out - and the rest of the army supporting that move.

Bolivar won battles by being where it was impossible to be through forced marches and inherent toughness of his troops, San Martin won battles by muddying the waters and having sufficient material on hand to be where it was considered impossible to arrive be in such numbers while the Spanish were spread out looking everywhere else.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 05:54 PM (mkDpn)

85 I found Kate Hepburn to be tiresome.

What she lacked in talent, she made up for in snootiness.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:54 PM (EX4Wr)

86 The Battle of Tours is great. Right up there with the Battle of Vienna.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:46 PM (EX4Wr)

--I am only at the beginning, but I get the author's point that Tours was not decisive when seen alongside the gruelling, 700 year long Reconquista.

The Siege of Vienna is more typical of war throughout the ages.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:54 PM (GsAUU)

87 Oooh, BTH, I remember that dress featured in Archeology Today, way back when.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 05:55 PM (mkDpn)

88 Just finished watching Steel Helmet on TCM. That's the one with the original Short Round. Very good movie and only made in 10 days. Controversial at the time.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 05:55 PM (IDPbH)

89 I like Katherine Hepburn in The Philadelphia Story. I thought she was perfect for that role.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:56 PM (lwiT4)

90 USAA got caught. HQ'ed in surburban San Antonio for military vets, active duty, dependents.

What did they think would happen?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 05:56 PM (89T5c)

91 Grammie, Don't know if a guy's opinion counts but that is a beautiful dress. It also gets Mrs. JTB's highest approval. Judging from that one photo of you after your honeymoon, it should be very flattering. Try not to outshine the bride.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (V+03K)

92 85 I found Kate Hepburn to be tiresome.

What she lacked in talent, she made up for in snootiness.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:54 PM (EX4Wr)

+++

I know what you mean. I used to like her when I was younger. After many years I discovered that she was, in fact, quite grating. And her snootiness just powers through everything.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (+tKYk)

93 72 The first movie I saw Audrey Hepburn in was "Robin and Marian", about Robin Hood returning home from the Crusades. Robin Hood is now a grizzled, disillusioned veteran and Marian an abbess, and they get the merry band back together for one last fight against the Sheriff of Nottingham. It was a really beautiful story of love rekindled.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 05:48 PM (NT3RT)

I love that film Eris!! Bittersweet.

It's still hard to believe Audrey never did a Hitchcock film. But Wait Until Dark and Charade are both very good Hitchcockian type suspense films and she's great in them.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (ZSEpY)

94 Speaking of Audrey Hepburn, the movie "Wait Until Dark" scared the crap out of me the first time I saw it.

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (DrCtv)

95 logprof,

I have a map. I was amazed to see that it isn't that far from Poland to Vienna.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (EX4Wr)

96 Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (V+03K)
=================================


You and Mrs. JTB are very sweet. Thank you.


Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:58 PM (lwiT4)

97 Hepburn was great in the African Queen . Can't think of anyone that could have played that role.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 05:58 PM (IDPbH)

98 It's still hard to believe Audrey never did a Hitchcock film. But Wait Until Dark and Charade are both very good Hitchcockian type suspense films and she's great in them.
Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (ZSEpY)
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Charade is one of my favorite movies. I love all the twists. And, of course, the clothes!

Another fun one she did was How to Steal a Million with Peter O'Toole.

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:59 PM (sBOL1)

99 Audrey Hepburn wasn't Hitchcock's type. He liked his women to have at least a hint of slutty.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 27, 2017 05:59 PM (pV/54)

100 Speaking of Audrey Hepburn, the movie "Wait Until Dark" scared the crap out of me the first time I saw it.

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (DrCtv)
=================================

Oh my gosh - me too! That was a Hitchcock film, right?

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:59 PM (lwiT4)

101 Oops.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 06:00 PM (lwiT4)

102
There was a pathetic and staged protest in Wisconsin for free health care recently.

One of the signs: "Replace = Disgace"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3llBbCbJZU

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 06:00 PM (a6O80)

103 >>> Judging from that one photo of you after your honeymoon, it should be very flattering. Try not to outshine the bride.

Grammie posted a post honeymoon pic?! Sorry I missed it! I'm sure you will be lovely Grammie illusion sleeves or no.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 06:00 PM (ZSEpY)

104 Hugh Laurie and Stephen Fry playing chess in Fry's rooms at Cambridge, 1980



Jeeves trying to explain to Bertie for the umpteenth time what the little horse does

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 06:00 PM (auHtY)

105 "The beasts, Mr Allnut, are what we are put on this Earth to rise above."

If I was Allnut and she poured all my gin overboard, she would have been the next to go.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 06:00 PM (EX4Wr)

106 Problem 4:
1. Nf6+ gxf6
2. Qf8+ Kxf8
3. Bh6+ Kg7
4. Re8#

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:01 PM (sdi6R)

107 Sad to hear about Greg Allman. Quite the colorful life. Not to mention he was married to Cher at one time.

Who tweeted the following

I"ve tried
Words are impossible, Gui Gui( broken heart emoji)
Forever,
Chooch. (Kissing lips emoji)

She has now outlived two ex husbands.....

Posted by: Jen the original at May 27, 2017 06:01 PM (31ZTX)

108 97 Hepburn was great in the African Queen . Can't think of anyone that could have played that role.
Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 05:58 PM (IDPbH)

+++

I will give her the African Queen.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 06:01 PM (+tKYk)

109 Catherine Hepburn was pretty, for a few years of her life. But she was no beauty. And her acting sucked, mostly.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (a6O80)



She was completely out of place in The Lion in Winter. But this isn't the movie thread so I'll save it for that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 06:02 PM (auHtY)

110 One battle that may take some Morons aback as overblown was Tours, apparently given excessive significance by idolaters of the Big Battle like Creasy, which was more a defeat of forward scouts than a clash of great armies.

The original source for Tours is a rather uninformative passage of about two sentences in a chronicle. There has been an amazing number of interpretations built on those two sentences...

The notion that it only was a defeat of scouts has been challenged, BTW. I don't know how they could determine that from the Frankish source, so it has to rely on the silence of Andalusian sources.

logprof : another example of a battle not deciding nearly as much as people think it did was the Spanish Armada fail in 1588. Yay, the English won. That engagement. Right after that the Spanish beat the English all over the Atlantic and, a decade or so later, forced a treaty down our throats.


They failed to conquer England, that was what was decisive. Had the Armada succeeded in transporting Parma's army to England, he very probably would have deposed Elizabeth and reimposed Catholicism on England, England would probably not have colonized NA to the extent that they did or in the manner in which they did (compare and contrast French Canada with the English colonies), and thus no US.

Yes, it was very decisive in the long run.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:02 PM (bZ7mE)

111 3. ...Kg8, not g7.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:02 PM (sdi6R)

112 Fry and Laurie will always be Bertie and Jeeves for me, hah. Handmaiden's Tale is on the to watch list along with a million other things.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:44 PM (ZSEpY)


I hope you read the review I posted of it on this here blog a week or two ago.

The more episodes I watch, the more impressed I am with Handmaid's Tale. They are really doing a good job with it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:03 PM (Z3xqO)

113 Had this in my head for a couple of hours now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1jpQu6qR1E


You're my blue skies. You're my sunny day.


RIP

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 06:04 PM (lwiT4)

114 Heaven forbid I would have to count on Oregon Muse. Or boulder terlit hobo.Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:42 PM
What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: J. Random Moron at May 27, 2017 06:04 PM (DMUuz)

115 95 logprof,

I have a map. I was amazed to see that it isn't that far from Poland to Vienna.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 05:57 PM (EX4Wr)

--Sobieski vodka FTW!

I also hired a car for relatively cheap 10 years ago to travel from Pressburg, er, Bratislava to Vienna. I love that part of Europe.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:04 PM (GsAUU)

116 I"ve tried
Words are impossible, Gui Gui( broken heart emoji)
Forever,
Chooch. (Kissing lips emoji)

She has now outlived two ex husbands.....
Posted by: Jen the original at May 27, 2017 06:01 PM (31ZTX)

+++

She sounds rather fond of him for having divorced him after being married for 9 days. You never know.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 06:04 PM (+tKYk)

117 Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:01 PM (sdi6R)

You're certainly en fuego today.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with for the endgame.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:05 PM (Z3xqO)

118 Another fun one she did was How to Steal a Million with Peter O'Toole. Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 05:59 PM (sBOL1)

Love that one! Silly fun but you root for it all to come off all right. Love her dad and her over the top 60s mod fashion.

Edith Head dressed Audrey magnificently in films. So did Givenchy. The feud over who gets credit for the costumes in Sabrina is legendary. Givenchy actually designed them but Edith won the Oscar. Scandal, lol!

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 06:06 PM (ZSEpY)

119 Audrey Hepburn had the most exquisite neck. She always looked like a princess.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

120 29 Hi bluebell. They think he might have labyrinthitis. I didn't know that was a thing but apparently it is. They're hitting him pretty hard with steroids - 60 mg of Pred a day. I hope it cures him quick. A) He's cutting into my sloth time, and B) I don't want him bloated for my son's wedding.


I'm a very compassionate wife, I am.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (lwiT4)

So you went to the ENT! Hah!

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 06:08 PM (0mRoj)

121 Jeeves trying to explain to Bertie for the umpteenth time what the little horse does Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 27, 2017 06:00 PM (auHtY)

+1

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 06:08 PM (ZSEpY)

122 African Queen and The Lion in Winter roles were made for her, the rest are a pass.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 06:09 PM (6qmBU)

123 I have just been informed that we are going down to the lake to have a drink and watch people get married at the resort. BBL

Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 06:09 PM (lwiT4)

124 I had a book once, "What If... 2", which discussed what if Philip II had landed troops in England.

His answer is that the Queen might have held the hills around Devon and Staffordshire, and the swamps of East Anglia, leaving the Spaniards with London and not much else. Philip could have done damage to England's richest farmlands, but couldn't have forced Catholicism back on it.

One thing that's not talked about much is, what if Philip had just annexed Ireland and booted all the English and Norman-Irish out. That, I think he could have done more easily.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:09 PM (6FqZa)

125 112 Fry and Laurie will always be Bertie and Jeeves for me, hah. Handmaiden's Tale is on the to watch list along with a million other things.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 05:44 PM (ZSEpY)

I hope you read the review I posted of it on this here blog a week or two ago.

The more episodes I watch, the more impressed I am with Handmaid's Tale. They are really doing a good job with it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:03 PM (Z3xqO)

Really? It's not the hamhanded "TEH XTIANS R GONNA TAKE OUR VAGINAZZZ N' UTERUSESES!!1!1!1!111!!!" the movie was?

Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 06:10 PM (0mRoj)

126 113 You're my blue skies. You're my sunny day.


RIP
Posted by: grammie winger

Thanks for that link. I've always loved his piano-playing. Delux bluesman forever!

(your dress is super chic, in my opinion too!)

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2017 06:10 PM (tfQTV)

127 Princesses wish they looked like Audrey.

Kate Cambridge does a good job trying.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 06:10 PM (EX4Wr)

128 They failed to conquer England, that was what was decisive. Had the Armada succeeded in transporting Parma's army to England, he very probably would have deposed Elizabeth and reimposed Catholicism on England, England would probably not have colonized NA to the extent that they did or in the manner in which they did (compare and contrast French Canada with the English colonies), and thus no US.

Yes, it was very decisive in the long run.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:02 PM (bZ7mE)

--A lot of the destruction of the Armada was going the long way around Great Britain through the stormy North Sea.

Even on the eve of seeing off the Armada, Carlos V knew he was rolling the iron dice.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:10 PM (GsAUU)

129 African Queen and A Lion in Winter.

Type-cast for a bitch.


Posted by: JAS at May 27, 2017 06:12 PM (EX4Wr)

130 Never seen a Tracy/Hepburn movie.

Not sure if I'm missing much.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:13 PM (GsAUU)

131 OregonMuse I did read it! Very eloquent review, you are the reason I added it to the list.

So many authors hate their fiction can be used as a morality tale for people that are not far left like they are. Rowling, Collins, GRRM, and Atwood too. But if they really are not tainting it with politics and it's as interesting as you say, I'm excited to give it a go.

Posted by: LizLem at May 27, 2017 06:13 PM (ZSEpY)

132 Looking forward to seeing what you come up with for the endgame.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:05 PM (Z3xqO)

++++

Black refuses to play right.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 06:14 PM (R+30W)

133 The worry I have with Handmaid, assuming we trust OregonMuse's review (which we should, he has excellent taste), is that after a few seasons they'll buckle to the SJW fanbase and lard it up with the expected pieties.

I don't like to start a series and then get screwed many episodes in. This is what happened to me with Orphan Black when they started in on an antiThatcher rant out of nowhere.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:14 PM (6FqZa)

134 117
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with for the endgame.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:05 PM (Z3xqO)


I was just looking at that. At first, I didn't see any way for White to save the pawn. So I read the hint, and now I can see that the first move is either Ba6 or Be6, both of which protect the queening square and keep the rook at bay. But I'm not sure how to tell which one is correct.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:15 PM (sdi6R)

135 i don't own the clothes I'm wearing
and the road goes on forever.

Posted by: booknlass at May 27, 2017 06:16 PM (tfQTV)

136 Really? It's not the hamhanded "TEH XTIANS R GONNA TAKE OUR VAGINAZZZ N' UTERUSESES!!1!1!1!111!!!" the movie was?
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 06:10 PM (0mRoj)

--I don't know about Handmaid's Tale itself, but among the sci-fi geeks at Vox Day's blog Margaret Atwood WRT her other works is cited as example of a writer who's a loon (heh, she's Canadian, too) politically but admired as a writer.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:17 PM (GsAUU)

137 Really? It's not the hamhanded "TEH XTIANS R GONNA TAKE OUR VAGINAZZZ N' UTERUSESES!!1!1!1!111!!!" the movie was?
Posted by: Insomniac - forgotten but not gone at May 27, 2017 06:10 PM (0mRo


I don't think it's hamhanded. The eeevil Christian theocracy in this rendition is actually not shoved in the audience's face all that much. What they do show of it, i.e. a lesbian being hung by her neck from some construction equipment, and another woman who gets her clitoris removed, makes it look more like this is a thinly-viewed parable of an Islamic theocracy.

And this is a surprise to me because the author of the novel is an unhinged moonbat.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:17 PM (Z3xqO)

138 Be6 results in a pretty quick stalemate.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 06:17 PM (R+30W)

139 Hillary. I only people could think.

Hillary worked on the prosecution of President Richard M. Nixon. She was fired from that job by her Democrat boss for unethical behavior. Here's the story.

Hillary Fired for Lies, Unethical Behavior from Congressional Job: Former Boss
2014
Morrissey talks about it (Calabrese's column): http://preview.tinyurl.com/n5t9ep9
2013
Calabrese's column: http://preview.tinyurl.com/bwsflyj

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 06:18 PM (6qmBU)

140 example of a writer who's a loon (heh, she's Canadian, too) politically but admired as a writer

Also see: A Song Of Ice And Fire, first three books.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:18 PM (6FqZa)

141 I found Kate Hepburn to be tiresome.

What she lacked in talent, she made up for in snootiness.

Posted by: JAS


Both Hepburns look a bit freaky. I think if I could make it with my dream Hollywood star of yesteryear, it would be Ginger Rogers.

Too bad MP4 is probably not here to weigh in.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 06:20 PM (vRcUp)

142 I started playing it using Be6, and I can already see how Black can force a stalemate. So Ba6 it is.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:20 PM (sdi6R)

143 Every Saturday a sweet looking upper middleclass elderly woman sits behind her little folding table outside the local branch library. Milky doll-eyes greet passersby warmly. Soft of voice and neat as a pin, she is.

Just sign right here for free healthcare, she says. And they do. More do than don't. Granma smiles. Everyone smiles.

Another beautiful day in the golden state.

Posted by: 13times at May 27, 2017 06:21 PM (WHVu+)

144 --A lot of the destruction of the Armada was going the long way around Great Britain through the stormy North Sea.

Even on the eve of seeing off the Armada, Carlos V knew he was rolling the iron dice.


Yeah, but the victory was won when the Armada was forced past the point where they could have turned around and rendezvoused with Parma. The campaign was lost at that point.

I don't think that it was actually a winnable campaign, unless the English had remained in port. The navigational and logistical problems were too enormous for the Spanish military system to overcome otherwise. Nevertheless, it did represent a significant setback.

Philip II, not Carlos, BTW.

England had no real army at the time, and what small number of experienced fighters it had at the time where still engaged in the Netherlands, I believe. (The continued support of the rebellious Dutch - another consequence of not having a Spanish army to deal with at home).

Yeah, I get that the Armada didn't make England's rise to Empire inevitable. I don't buy the notion that it wasn't a significant factor in the long run, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:23 PM (bZ7mE)

145 Posted by: 13times at May 27, 2017 06:21 PM (WHVu+)

++++

Isn't that just peaches and cream?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 06:23 PM (+tKYk)

146 A coworker friend who is a movie fanatic and fan of all things 80's said I MUST see "Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon" (1985). Oh My Lord is it 80's. It's basically a music video with chop socky action.

Bruce Leroy (!) is about to mix it up with Sho' Nuff, the Shogun of Harlem. Sho' Nuff looked so familiar, then imdb revealed him to be Julius Carry, Lord Bowler from Brisco County Jr..

It's like "Breakin' II: Electric Boogaloo", except it's fights to the death instead of dance-offs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:23 PM (NT3RT)

147 "Morrissey talks about it"

ED Morrissey. Although I'm pretty sure you could troll the other Morrissey to mention it on Twitter these days

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:24 PM (6FqZa)

148 Grammie,

How soon after seeing you in that dress did the Rev's dizziness begin?

Posted by: Wenda (sic) at May 27, 2017 06:24 PM (Kr0FZ)

149 Gardening Thread. Pet Thread. Chess Thread. How am I supposed to read these? They are not in alphabetical order.

Sheesh......

Posted by: Tim in Illinois at May 27, 2017 06:25 PM (d76uN)

150 A lot of Gregg Allman love, need more Jim Bunning love (from Wiki):

Bunning played in Minor League Baseball from 1950 through 1954 and part of the 1955 season, when the Tigers club described him as having "an excellent curve ball, a confusing delivery and a sneaky fast ball".[6] His first game in the major leagues was on July 20, 1955, with the Detroit Tigers. Bunning pitched his first no-hitter on July 20, 1958, for the Detroit Tigers against the Boston Red Sox.[2] On August 2, 1959, Bunning struck out three batters on nine pitches in the ninth inning of a 5-4 loss to the Boston Red Sox. Bunning became the fifth American League pitcher and the 10th pitcher in Major League history to accomplish the nine-pitch/three-strikeout half-inning.



--Detroit letting Bunning go was really, really stupid.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:25 PM (GsAUU)

151 Gregg Allman. o.m.g. My best days are so far behind me. RIP and Eat a Peach.

Posted by: Peaches at May 27, 2017 06:26 PM (EgOr3)

152 Now I have go over to my parents house to eat pizza and watch a funny movie.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:26 PM (bZ7mE)

153 Ba6 doesn't seem to work either.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:27 PM (sdi6R)

154 152 Now I have go over to my parents house to eat pizza and watch a funny movie.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:26 PM (bZ7mE)

+++

Doesn't sound terrible.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 06:27 PM (+tKYk)

155 152
Now I have go over to my parents house to eat pizza and watch a funny movie.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:26 PM (bZ7mE)
I'd kill for that. Hope you have a wonderful evening! :-)

Posted by: Peaches at May 27, 2017 06:28 PM (EgOr3)

156 ED Morrissey. Although I'm pretty sure you could troll the other Morrissey to mention it on Twitter these days
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:24 PM (6FqZa)
---
"Hairdresser on fire" is proving to be sadly prophetic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:29 PM (NT3RT)

157 Don't have a twitter account although I do check in to Prez 45 to see if he's tweaked anyone lately.

Oh, BTW, great job on your foreign tour Mr. President.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 06:29 PM (6qmBU)

158 I'm thinking veal parm sub for dinner, with chips and a pickle wedge.

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 06:29 PM (Sfs6o)

159 I suppose I'm off to watch the Astros against the Orioles. Since I'll have no car until Tuesday afternoon, there could be booze involved.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:29 PM (6FqZa)

160
The marching is now complete. We were impressive and it truly is an honor to participate.

I really enjoy wearing the class A's once or twice a year, a sneaky little part of me misses it.

Now we will be doing the BBQ and party thing.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2017 06:30 PM (S/hVx)

161 "Hairdresser on fire" is proving to be sadly prophetic.

So's "Panic".

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:30 PM (6FqZa)

162 Just sign right here for free healthcare, she says. And they do. More do than don't. Granma smiles. Everyone smiles.

Posted by: 13times at May 27, 2017 06:21 PM (WHVu+) fnord (WHVu+)


Just sign here for free sugar and cotton, and guaranteed employment.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 06:31 PM (wB8Tg)

163 Now we will be doing the BBQ and party thing.


Posted by: irongrampa at May 27, 2017 06:30 PM (S/hVx)
Sounds awesome, ig. I'd do a lot to see a pic of you in your Class A. I bet you so hot!

Posted by: Peaches at May 27, 2017 06:31 PM (EgOr3)

164 I have sausage and kidney beans etc. brewing in the crock pot.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 06:31 PM (6qmBU)

165
Philip II, not Carlos, BTW.

England had no real army at the time, and what small number of experienced fighters it had at the time where still engaged in the Netherlands, I believe. (The continued support of the rebellious Dutch - another consequence of not having a Spanish army to deal with at home).

Yeah, I get that the Armada didn't make England's rise to Empire inevitable. I don't buy the notion that it wasn't a significant factor in the long run, though.
Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 06:23 PM (bZ7mE)

--I knew when I clicked "Post" that I got the wrong Habsburg (like that split second when you know too late that you locked your keys in the car).

I can still see that many of these battles were commas or semicolons rather than exclamation points or periods. Cannae was literally the classic example for two millennia, but while a spectacular victory still not decisive.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:32 PM (GsAUU)

166 Back in about 45 to fire up this week's movie thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 06:34 PM (Z3xqO)

167 153 Ba6 doesn't seem to work either.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:27 PM (sdi6R)

++++

Yes, but it takes longer to fail.

Like I said, Black refuses to play right.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 06:34 PM (R+30W)

168 161 "Hairdresser on fire" is proving to be sadly prophetic.

So's "Panic".
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 06:30 PM (6FqZa)


--Shout-out to "Death of a Disco Dancer"

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:35 PM (GsAUU)

169 I could go gyro platter or cheeseburger, but I haven't had the veal parm in a while.

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 06:35 PM (Sfs6o)

170 "Hairdresser on fire" is proving to be sadly prophetic.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:29 PM (NT3RT)


That raises so many . . . Is that Mojo Nixon? Or am I thinking of Girlfriend in a Coma?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 06:37 PM (mkDpn)

171 I'm the only one playing chess here, aren't I?

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:37 PM (sdi6R)

172 I was tied to the whipping post.

Posted by: Cher at May 27, 2017 06:37 PM (IqV8l)

173 "Girlfriend on a Coma" (I know, I know, it's serious!)


Misery Morrissey, the Pope of Mope.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:38 PM (NT3RT)

174 To quote the philosopher Jim Lahey, birds of a shitfeather flock together.

It seems to be true. Bad people admire other bad people.

Pet thread: Too bad the soldier with a dog on her shoulder can't be given an M4 with a collapsing stock.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 06:38 PM (VdICR)

175 Speaking of nostalgia, FNC playing clips of Perot from '92: "A giant sucking sound."

Speaking of decisive battles, The Donald needs to nail NAFTA and/or The Wall. All the other issues will be afterthoughts.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:38 PM (GsAUU)

176 In! Not on!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:38 PM (NT3RT)

177 This place also has REALLY good tuna salad. Not too watery, and a good onion/celery balance.

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 06:39 PM (Sfs6o)

178 I'm the only one playing chess here, aren't I?

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 06:37 PM (sdi6R) fnord (sdi6R)


If you're the only one playing chess, are you really playing chess?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 06:39 PM (wB8Tg)

179 That raises so many . . . Is that Mojo Nixon? Or am I thinking of Girlfriend in a Coma?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 06:37 PM (mkDpn)

--Mojo Nixon did the great "Elvis is Everywhere."

"Girlfriend In A Coma" was The Smiths (Morrissey on vocals)

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:40 PM (GsAUU)

180 Don't bring cookies to a pie fight.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 06:40 PM (nlbfN)

181 172
I was tied to the whipping post.



Posted by: Cher at May 27, 2017 06:37 PM (IqV8l)
Good Lord, I feel like I'm dying.

Posted by: Peaches at May 27, 2017 06:40 PM (EgOr3)

182 How 80's is "The Last Dragon", you ask?

We're taking a break from the action with a performance by *DeBarge*.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:40 PM (NT3RT)

183 I'm the only one playing chess here, aren't I?
Not chess... poker.

Posted by: captain james kirk at May 27, 2017 06:41 PM (nlbfN)

184 "Girlfriend In A Coma" was The Smiths (Morrissey on vocals)
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:40 PM (GsAUU)


Mojo did a cover. I'm listening to it right now. It rocks.

Bwahaaha!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 06:41 PM (mkDpn)

185 Fizzbin.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:41 PM (NT3RT)

186 Don't bring cookies to a pie fight.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 06:40 PM (nlbfN) fnord (nlbfN)


http://bit.ly/2rKnvDe

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 06:42 PM (wB8Tg)

187 The death of a disco dancer
Well, it happens a lot 'round here
And if you think Peace
Is a common goal
That goes to show
How little you know
The death of a disco dancer
Well, I'd rather not get involved
I never talk to my neighbour
I'd rather not get involved
Oh
Love, peace and harmony?
Love, peace and harmony?
Oh, very nice
Very nice
Very nice
Very nice
But maybe in the next world

Posted by: The Smiths at May 27, 2017 06:42 PM (GsAUU)

188 I will tell you the major flaw with the cheeseburgers though - for some reason they put the lettuce/tomato/onion between the patty and the BOTTOM bun. Completely retarded.

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 06:43 PM (Sfs6o)

189 Mojo did a cover. I'm listening to it right now. It rocks.

Bwahaaha!
Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 06:41 PM (mkDpn)

--Really??

Must check it out.

Quicksand's cover of "How Soon Is Now?" was also good.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:44 PM (GsAUU)

190 Fizzbin.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:41 PM (NT3RT) fnord (NT3RT)


That is an *excellent* hand, on a normal Saturday.

But this is a *holiday weekend*, so you have to pass your high card to your left.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 06:44 PM (wB8Tg)

191 Endgame:
1.Ba6 Rd4+ 2.Bd3 Rxd3+ 3.Kc2 Rf3 4.c8=Q

Now you have KQ vs KR.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 06:45 PM (R+30W)

192 Problem 1:

Rg6

Problem 2:

1) ... Rxh2+

2) ... Qf3

Problem 3:

Bxf7+

Problem 4:

Nf6+

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 06:45 PM (zc3Db)

193 Holy crap, just saw a very young William H. Macy.

Everybody's gotta pay their dues, I guess.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:46 PM (NT3RT)

194 I hope the movie thread is dedicated to one late charming super-spy. Barring that, we should set up a theme or something. I find it difficult to read the whole thing because it's more scattered than most threads.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 06:46 PM (VdICR)

195 I don't care what anyone says about Moz, Viva Hate is still a favorite album of mine.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)

196 Mad Queen Hillary! is whinging again:

https://pjmedia.com/election/2017/05/27/extraordinary-delusions-and-the-madness-of-hillary-clinton/



Let's see what Muttley has to say about this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uSTOHa4Im4



Perhaps what she needs is an Exclusive Hillary! Showing of "Wonder Woman".........with booze.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 06:47 PM (NyJwR)

197 Posted by: grammie winger at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (lwiT4)


Grammie, that's what I had, only because I had no hearing loss, it was considered vestibular neuritis. But it's the same thing.

He won't get bloated from just a few weeks on the Prednisone! But he'll probably get real hungry and a bit euphoric. (Some men do get a lil trigger temper)

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 06:48 PM (Ehade)

198 Vanity is wearing a beaded asymmetrically hemmed number that Grammie could really rock at the wedding.

Can you do Big 80's Hair, Grammie?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:49 PM (NT3RT)

199 Don't bring cookies to a pie fight.
Posted by: andycanuck


If the snow wolf is chasing your sleigh
It's alright to thrown him a cookie
But don't stop to bake a cake

-faux Polish proverb from Banacek

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 27, 2017 06:49 PM (S6Pax)

200 The Last Dragon was a fun ,campy movie. Vanity was pretty hot too.

Posted by: Jack Sock at May 27, 2017 06:50 PM (IDPbH)

201 195 I don't care what anyone says about Moz, Viva Hate is still a favorite album of mine.
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:47 PM (GsAUU)
---
Who doesn't love "Suedehead"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:51 PM (NT3RT)

202 Morrissey and The Smiths never did much for me.

I did like these commies though:

The Housemartins "Happy Hour"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmfkd5apdKY

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 06:52 PM (NyJwR)

203 More:

Bunning entered play on June 21 with a 6-2 record on the season.[8] He was opposed on the mound by Tracy Stallard in the first game of a doubleheader. Through the first four innings, Bunning totaled four strikeouts through twelve batters. In the fifth inning, Phillies second baseman Tony Taylor preserved the perfect game with his strong defensive play. A diving catch and a throw from the knees kept Mets catcher Jesse Gonder off the bases. Bunning also had a good day at the plate, hitting a double and driving in two runs in the sixth inning. By the end of the game, even the Mets fans were cheering Bunning's effort; he had reached a three-ball count on only two batters, and retired shortstop Charley Smith on a pop-out, and pinch-hitters George Altman and John Stephenson on strikeouts, to complete the perfect game.

Bunning, who at the time had seven children, said that his game, pitched on Father's Day, could not have come at a more appropriate time. He remarked that his slider was his best pitch, "'just like the no-hitter I pitched for Detroit six years ago'", Bunning posted the first regular-season perfect game since Charlie Robertson in 1922 (Don Larsen's perfect game was in the 1956 World Series). The Phillies also won the second game of the doubleheader, 8-2, behind Rick Wise, who earned his first major league victory in his first start.

Bunning's perfect game was the first thrown by a National League pitcher in 84 years. It was also the first no-hitter by a Phillies pitcher since Johnny Lush no-hit the Brooklyn Superbas on May 1, 1906. He is one of only seven pitchers to throw both a perfect game and an additional no-hitter, the others being Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Addie Joss, Cy Young, Mark Buehrle, and fellow Phillie Roy Halladay, whose additional no-hitter came in Game 1 of the 2010 National League Division Series. He was also the first of only five players to throw a no-hitter in both leagues, the others being Young, Johnson, Nolan Ryan and Hideo Nomo.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:53 PM (GsAUU)

204 The second cultural idiom of "Leroy Jenkins".

https://youtu.be/hooKVstzbz0?t=1m1s

I skipped the first minute of joyless chatter.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 06:53 PM (VdICR)

205 I got the wrong Habsburg
Well. They do all look alike.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 06:54 PM (nlbfN)

206 Well. They do all look alike.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 06:54 PM (nlbfN)


It's that lip. Or maybe the ear. Or the hemophilia, hold on, let me check my notes.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 06:57 PM (mkDpn)

207 Who doesn't love "Suedehead"?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 06:51 PM (NT3RT)

--Great tune, and my fave is "Late Night, Maudlin Street."

"Women only like me for my mind" --so true through high school!

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:57 PM (GsAUU)

208 70 67 My degree was in ancient Mediterranean civilisations, not in dressmaking so much. If I was asked to design a dress it would probably look like this
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/505388389406930516/
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:46 PM (6FqZa)

--ZOMG those Minoan women totes culturally appropriated hoop earrings from Latina chicks!!11!!!!1!!
Posted by: logprof


I noted back in 2005 that the "Lebanese Protest Babes" everyone was ogling that year looked exactly like their genetic ancestors, the Minoan chicks from the frescoes:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=356087#c23506498

"In 2006 (?) when there was a big outbreak of anti-war and anti-jihad protests in Beirut, horny American blogger dudes began posting pictures (found in overseas news sites) of "Lebanese Protest Babes," of which there seemed to be an overabundance. I noted at the time, and proved with jaw-dropping comparison pictures, that some of these "Lebanese Protest Babes" were the spitting image of Minoan maidens depicted in frescoes 3400 years ago. Same hair, same nose, same dimples, same lips, same everything -- it was amazing...."

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=356087#c23506506

Here's a photo of a typical Lebanese Protest Babe from the 2005 "Cedar Revolution":

http://tinyurl.com/n6tblpr

And here's a typical Minoan maiden on a fresco from 1500 BC:

http://tinyurl.com/k54n2ox

See what I mean?
Posted by: zombie"



Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 06:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

209 Wow, looks like the Koranimals are celebrating Ramadan with a bang.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 06:58 PM (GsAUU)

210 I noted back in 2005 that the "Lebanese Protest Babes" everyone was ogling that year looked exactly like their genetic ancestors, the Minoan chicks from the frescoes:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=356087#c23506498

"In 2006 (?) when there was a big outbreak of anti-war and anti-jihad protests in Beirut, horny American blogger dudes began posting pictures (found in overseas news sites) of "Lebanese Protest Babes," of which there seemed to be an overabundance. I noted at the time, and proved with jaw-dropping comparison pictures, that some of these "Lebanese Protest Babes" were the spitting image of Minoan maidens depicted in frescoes 3400 years ago. Same hair, same nose, same dimples, same lips, same everything -- it was amazing...."

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=356087#c23506506

Here's a photo of a typical Lebanese Protest Babe from the 2005 "Cedar Revolution":

http://tinyurl.com/n6tblpr

And here's a typical Minoan maiden on a fresco from 1500 BC:

http://tinyurl.com/k54n2ox

See what I mean?
Posted by: zombie"



Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 06:58 PM (DQ4Fv)

--Heh.

The murdered Iranian protester Neda was to me the most beautiful. My wife even resembles her a little.

https://goo.gl/images/Aycn2U

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:02 PM (GsAUU)

211 OrgeonMuse, as for the endgame (final problem), if white "blunders" by going Be6 (preventing the rook from going to the c-file), which "allows" Rb8!!, such that if white takes the rook and promotes to a queen (or even to a white rook), which stalemates black -- white actually can still win with either cxb8/N! or cxb8/B!, and then he can mate with the two minor pieces.

I know that Ba6 is "better" and the "right" move, but Be6 works as well. At least I think so.

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

212 Jaw/chin.
See you later... I'm going out for dinner!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 07:03 PM (nlbfN)

213
How is there not a single Democrat in Congress right now with a "tie" to Russia in some way or form?

Of course there is!

So the better question is: Why aren't the Republican Shits exposing him/her/them?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:04 PM (a6O80)

214 Steyn:

https://www.steynonline.com/7857/ramadan-bombs-away

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:05 PM (GsAUU)

215
So the better question is: Why aren't the Republican Shits exposing him/her/them?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:04 PM (a6O80)

--They're shitheads more concerned with being with the power than the truth.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:06 PM (GsAUU)

216 Well, today I'm one year closer to dead. Time flies.

Posted by: Ronster at May 27, 2017 07:06 PM (CDUSe)

217 211 OrgeonMuse, as for the endgame (final problem), if white "blunders" by going Be6 (preventing the rook from going to the c-file), which "allows" Rb8!!, such that if white takes the rook and promotes to a queen (or even to a white rook), which stalemates black -- white actually can still win with either cxb8/N! or cxb8/B!, and then he can mate with the two minor pieces.

I know that Ba6 is "better" and the "right" move, but Be6 works as well. At least I think so.
Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:03 PM (DQ4Fv)


Huh. That's interesting.

All I can say is that's a nasty endgame, and I hope I never get that position in real life.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 07:07 PM (sdi6R)

218 So we lost a Rock and Roll and a Baseball Hall of Famer the past couple of days.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:07 PM (GsAUU)

219 You want Audrey you get Hillary at the counsel for prosecution of Nixon. That's Sam Donaldson's head at the far left.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybdqt925

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:07 PM (6qmBU)

220 216 Well, today I'm one year closer to dead. Time flies.
Posted by: Ronster at May 27, 2017 07:06 PM (CDUSe)

--HBD!

[hoists tasty beverage]

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:08 PM (GsAUU)

221 219 You want Audrey you get Hillary at the counsel for prosecution of Nixon. That's Sam Donaldson's head at the far left.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/ybdqt925
Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:07 PM (6qmBU)

--LMAO, thanks for the warning.

Will not click.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:08 PM (GsAUU)

222 So the better question is: Why aren't the Republican Shits exposing him/her/them?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- That's class! at May 27, 2017 07:04 PM (a6O80)


Because the GOP turds are trying to run with the Trump/Russia bullshit that their buddies, the Dems, made up out of whole cloth. Remember, these are the same GOP turds who wanted to kill the Tea Party but were happy to let the criminal, violent, rapey Occupoopers get away with everything.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:09 PM (zc3Db)

223 happy birthday ronster!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:09 PM (XRIvr)

224 Jim Bunning never won the Cy Young Award.

Stocking up on pub trivia today . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:11 PM (GsAUU)

225 Heh, glad I wasn't flying BA today.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:12 PM (GsAUU)

226 Here is Jim Bunning's SABR biography, which was contained within a link I posted earlier.

http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/bcacaa59

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

227 Speaking of dresses, that black number Melania wore today was aces.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:14 PM (GsAUU)

228 Fortunately, Greg Allman's place in the band will be take over by his second cousin, Greg Cashew.














I got nuthin'.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2017 07:14 PM (NyJwR)

229 Republicans, lapdogs of the Democrats.

That's why Pubbies sounds so much like puppies.

Posted by: gNewt at May 27, 2017 07:15 PM (6qmBU)

230 Good evening fine folks.

Posted by: Billy Vera at May 27, 2017 07:16 PM (e3l1B)

231 solutions up

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 07:17 PM (Z3xqO)

232 Baltimore glOrioles are sucking hard tonight

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 07:18 PM (XRIvr)

233 nood movie

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 07:19 PM (Z3xqO)

234 211 OrgeonMuse, as for the endgame (final problem), if white "blunders" by going Be6 (preventing the rook from going to the c-file), which "allows" Rb8!!, such that if white takes the rook

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

1.Be6 Rb1+
2.Kd2 Rc1

If white takes the rook, black can't make another move... stalemate. If white doesn't take the rook, the rook takes the pawn. White no longer has sufficient material. Be6 won't work.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 07:19 PM (R+30W)

235 MOVIE SIGN!

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 07:22 PM (sdi6R)

236 226 Here is Jim Bunning's SABR biography, which was contained within a link I posted earlier.

http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/bcacaa59
Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 07:13 PM (sdi6R)

--That was a treat to read. Amazing how close Bunning was early in his career to washing out of baseball.

This passage grabbed me:

By 2009 Bunning had lost the support of the powerful Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell, effectively ending his political career. In March he apologized for a morbid remark he had made, saying he believed Supreme Court Judge Ruth Bader Ginsberg, "could die within a year from pancreatic cancer."

--It's a cruel irony that the lilith zombie Ginsberg has outlived a great man like Bunning.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 07:24 PM (GsAUU)

237 Agree that black can force a draw with 1. ... Rb2+ after 1. Be6, either by stalemate or capturing the c-pawn.

After Ba6, 1. ...Rb2+ doesn't accomplish anything because there is no immediate stalemate threat as the a2 is no longer under attack by white's bishop.

1. ...Rd4+ is the alternative, in which case white must move 2. Bd3 to hold the position, followed by 2. ...Rxd3+, Ke2 and black cannot prevent the pawn from queening. (2. ...Rc4 accomplishes nothing either.)

If white moves his king to c1 or c2 on move 2, black will force a draw with 2. ... Rc4 by stalemate or by capturing the c-pawn.

If white moves his king to e1 or e2 on move 2, then 2. ...Re4+ allows 3. ...Re8 and a draw

Which is why 1. ...Rc4+ does not work after Be6, because after 2. Ke2 2. Re4+, white's bishop is blocking the e-file, preventing 3. ...Re8.

Posted by: civil truth at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (t3LBb)

238 Ah, now I see the solution to the endgame, which OM just posted! That actually is a legendary theme, in this position boiled down to its essence. Verrrry sneaky!

Posted by: zombie at May 27, 2017 07:25 PM (DQ4Fv)

239 Here's teh Horde's favorite 6'8" clown who sings Imagine to the lyrics of Foo Fighter's My Hero.

https://youtu.be/fTmYiI_Wuac

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 07:27 PM (VdICR)

240 1...Rxh2+
2.Qxh2 Qxh2#

That's the first path. Or, White could make the initial capture with his king.

2.Kxh2 Qh4#

And that's the second.


That's not "2 solutions". That's one solution with an alternate fork. I gave you two actual solutions.

... Qf3

insures mate. If white Queen takes, then Rxh2#
If white doesn't take then black rook takes white queen and mate is close.

Two solutions. A different solution calls for a different first move. If they are two paths from the same first move then it's still only one solution.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:32 PM (zc3Db)

241 And ... I don't bother reading descriptions for these things. In problem 3 you wrote: "White To Play". It's not until I went back and read all the junk about the problem that I see that it was NOT "White To Play".

The stories about the boards are nice for people who like that sort of stuff but all I look for is the board and who is "to play".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (zc3Db)

242 I see the flaw with 3. Ke2 after 2. ...Rxc3+.

I'd like to know if there is a regular time for posting the chess positions, as too often I'm late to the game...

Posted by: civil truth at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (t3LBb)

243 I'd like to know if there is a regular time for posting the chess positions, as too often I'm late to the game...

Posted by: civil truth at May 27, 2017 07:38 PM (t3LBb)


The chess thread gets posted every Sat. approx. 5pm Eastern time, no later than 5:15. I've been pretty good at keeping this schedule.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 08:06 PM (Z3xqO)

244 Since I usually take my nap right after I read the first problem every Saturday, because I don't have a chance in hell of figuring it out, I missed all of the Audrey stuff this time, since I don't even bother to scroll down to the adult questions. It's not my fault that my wiring is all set in the attack position. Anyhow, she, Audrey, is too cool to look at anyhow. Great Chess Thread, again. As usual. And, yeah, I think that Audrey should become the official mascot of the Chess Thread!

Posted by: goon at May 27, 2017 08:52 PM (EaQ6/)

245 Velocity Girl -- "Audrey's Eyes"

https://youtu.be/WoLxXa6W1ug

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 08:57 PM (GsAUU)

246 I assume in number 3 you meant 10. Qxd8, as Bxd8 allows Bxd1.

Posted by: Fischer at May 27, 2017 09:22 PM (IlI+g)

247 Pink picture is "Audrey Hepburn by Norman Parkinson, Vogue US, 1955" http://tinyurl.com/ybn7fzky

Posted by: geoffb5 at May 27, 2017 09:36 PM (d3wbb)

248 [strike]test[/strike]
[strikeout]test[/strikeout]

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 09:37 PM (eMKNe)

249 test

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 27, 2017 09:38 PM (eMKNe)

250 I assume in number 3 you meant 10. Qxd8, as Bxd8 allows Bxd1.

Posted by: Fischer at May 27, 2017 09:22 PM (IlI+g)


Aargh. Yes, you're right, thank you for that correction.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 10:10 PM (Z3xqO)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

armedforces dogs.jpg

Welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Grab a beverage and take a peek at the world of animals.

Usually our opening is a silly photo. How about a moving photo today?

*****


A Little of This. A Little of That.

I think there are some 'Ettes and 'Rons who would qualify for this job. Vet seeks a cat cuddler.

Service dogs, they are everywhere, including a high school year book.

I'm a misanthrope, I would have deep fried it.

Lighten up Francis.

1 down, 8 to go. Fortunate little kitteh.


7 adorable animals.


The wisdom of animals.

Meet The PetMorons


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I don't see any mischief in those eyes.


Been fans of Ace for years, love the pet thread, thought we'd send some pics in.

This is Magnum (the smaller one with the insanely cute, smug smile) and Samson. Pure bred Rough Collies.

We've always rescued animals (dozens over the years) but we had a rescue collie (Rowan) for many years and upon his passing decided that the breed was just perfect for us, so we went in search of another rescue. When we couldn't find one, we decided to go to one of the best collie breeders in the U.S. (Holmhaven) and get one - Magnum came to us at 9 weeks of age, and Samson followed about 6 months later - he was a return due to the owners having financial and health issues. They are actually cousins, and are best friends. What an incredible breed. -Eric


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Bed hog Dobies? Ha, they don't look it.

Mina, standing, and Geddy, sitting. Rescued Geddy as a puppy from a meth head needing money. Mina just wants to be touched. They love swimming in the irrigation canal, hunting mice and gophers on our acreage and love being bed hogs in the morning. S.Lynn

rotties.jpg

What a handsome pair of K-9s.

Carly & Eddie (monster)-V J


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You're welcome Jim and Rowan.

Hi, this is my dog named Rowan. Australian Cattle Dog with a lot of energy. He's surveying the back yard two years ago in the winter. I'm a lurker who spends most of my time at The Hostages where I typically post on Thursdays.

Thanks for running one of my favorite threads at the mothership - Jim


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Last but not least are these cute cats.

Say Hello to Tammy and Tig. Tammy showed up on our doorstep quite thoroughly pregnant; Tig is the only survivor of his litter. When he was born we put a berm of towels up around their nesting place to keep the kittens from crawling out of their nest. First day he was born tig crawled straight to the berm and up on top and took station on guard. Figgered he had some Tig in him. He'g going on 7 weeks now, over 27 ounces, will fight anything, and REALLY lets you know his opinion of veterinarian anal probes. -richard mcenroe


*****


That's a wrap for another week. Thank you for all your submissions. If you want to submit something try us at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Hope you and your pets have a great weekend!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 03:00 PM




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1 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 02:54 PM (Ot7+c)

2 Pounced on that like a cat I did

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 02:54 PM (Ot7+c)

3 Magnum sure is a charmer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 27, 2017 02:55 PM (u82oZ)

4 Two collies remind me we have a good cat and bad cat, whichever is doing something bad the other is the good cat.
My wife tells me there there ard no good cats.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 02:59 PM (Ot7+c)

5 Another fine bunch of Moranimals!
One of my favorite threads of the week, this one is.

Posted by: navybrat at May 27, 2017 03:00 PM (w7KSn)

6 Pet Thread!!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 03:00 PM (Sfs6o)

7 Woof! Woof! Barack I am your pet German shepherd!

Posted by: Angela Merkel at May 27, 2017 03:02 PM (vRcUp)

8 What does one have to do to get the job of Dog Carrier in the US military?

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 27, 2017 03:02 PM (R+30W)

9 Sweet pics of pets

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:03 PM (TiwO/)

10 Once again the Moronimals prove we do *so* have high standards. At least for our pets. What an adorable bunch of troublemakers! And that military dog totally is thinking "I pulled off the fake limp AGAIN! Yay me!"

Had a baby crow learning to fly a few days ago. Flopped on the ground and mom and dad were NOT pleased when I came too near Junior (ignorance is no excuse). I claim them as pets since they have their nest in my yard. Junior is doing much better with the whole flying thing now and is now working on keeping all his feathers tucked. (We still have a few baby feathers that will not lie smooth--so adorable!)

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at May 27, 2017 03:03 PM (mDjbp)

11 I say it every time but I don't give a crap, I love the pet thread.
You guys have some really cool pets.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2017 03:04 PM (U+nHb)

12 WeaselDog chewed her way to unsupervised daytime household freedom through the plastic baby gate mesh, so I'm over-engineering a replacement with solid wood panels.

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 03:05 PM (Sfs6o)

13 Is that picture at the top from that new movie--I forget the name. The ads for it look pretty good.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 03:06 PM (bwBxJ)

14 Happy Caturday!

(looks at inspiring first picture)

The color balance and lighting is way off, but... is that a *fake* or *prop* M-16?

Looks entirely monotone and glossy in the wrong places. Are NatG units still using old non-flattops from the 80s? The charging handle looks curved.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 03:06 PM (wB8Tg)

15 The wisdom of animals.

This is going to be a link to writings by Fidel, Kim Jong, and Yoko. Correct?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 03:08 PM (vRcUp)

16 A Swedish pet owner gave an injured fish a new leash on life with a home-made harness that allows the creature to swim around in its tank.

Ja! Und if the Muslims want to blow up me and my fish, I guess we both deserve it.

Posted by: neutered Swede at May 27, 2017 03:12 PM (vRcUp)

17 Moroni also Geddy reminds me of a cat I met a while back. The boarding kennel we use for our pets has several cats that "work" there : begging for pettings from the customers and walking on the keyboard when the human staff are trying to ring up the bill.

The new one's name was Crystal--not a weird name but the staffer went on to explain that she was a rescue because her owners had been arrested for making meth. She's a nice kitty.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 03:15 PM (bwBxJ)

18 Pounced on that like a cat I did

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 02:54 PM (Ot7+c)

Like a cat on a cheese-filled mouse.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 27, 2017 03:15 PM (tHwdc)

19 I found that stock photo pretty much everywhere, but no idea where it came from. Looks older than the new movie if links can be trusted.

Looks like her name is Wenke. Haven't found the story behind the picture.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 03:15 PM (wB8Tg)

20 Merovign, the 'prop' M-16s I have seen usually have a magazine molded into the magazine well. This one does not.

Charging handle is being seen from above and at an angle so not only seeing the top but the thickness of it, so that might account for the 'curve' you mention.

I would be very surprised if every M-16 in the US military has been changed over to the flat-top version. Talk about expense so older but still capable models will linger in inventory.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:16 PM (TiwO/)

21 Taking animals into a illegal combat zone is agauinst the law!!!! Presdent Oblama will hear about this people !!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 27, 2017 03:16 PM (WmgTn)

22 Gah! Effing autocorrect!

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 03:16 PM (bwBxJ)

23 Didn't I just mention my fondness for schnitzel.

Posted by: TFG at May 27, 2017 03:17 PM (FhXTo)

24 The wisdom of animals.

Is that guy supposed to be Muslim? Muslims don't like dogs.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 03:19 PM (vRcUp)

25 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:16 PM (TiwO/)

As I say it may be the lighting, but it looks like it's all the same material. It's definitely a much older design.

The photo seems to be too popular to find the real story behind it, but there are hundreds of different versions at random blogs, forums, pinterest, etc.

I was just curious about the oddity and the original story behind the picture.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 03:19 PM (wB8Tg)

26 What an awesome pet thread!!! (Of course, they are all awesome)

The collies are gorgeous, but so are the Dobies and the Rotties, and the ACD, and the kitties...

I am so happy we have an animal loving Horde. It gives me faith in humanity.

Posted by: moki at May 27, 2017 03:20 PM (V+V48)

27 M16A3 ?

Posted by: grump928(c) at May 27, 2017 03:23 PM (apyCW)

28 That collie is looking pretty coy. Or planning something.

Posted by: Eric Hoffer's Thumb at May 27, 2017 03:25 PM (e6aCv)

29 Perhaps Merovign, you could write a story for the picture? Set it into the future on another planet.

Had my imagination hijacked over to the third Tanya story because the climatic scene demanded to be written Nyaow! Almost 1,200 words later it was done. Now back to my regularly scheduled writing of second story. I hope, unless the fourth story wants attention.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:25 PM (TiwO/)

30 CS and CSS units are likely still equipped with M-16A2s, for the reasons given above.

hell, my unit didn't get M-9s until around the end of the century, and everyone still had M-16A1s when i got out in '03.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 27, 2017 03:25 PM (rq3YI)

31 The collies!!! OMG THE COLLIES!!! I simply love collies more than any animal in the world. Eric, yours are especially beautiful and their expressions are heartrending.

They are amazingly affectionate and easy to train. I had a male tri-color, Dunrobin of Kingswood "Robin." I got him when I was 19.

Did I mention I love collies?

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 27, 2017 03:26 PM (TdMsT)

32 I have to commend our Moron friend richard mcenroe for taking in pregnant kitty, Tammy. It's sad that anyone would abandon an animal in that state, but we have had more than one story from commenters who did the same thing.
You're a good guy, richardm.

Posted by: L, Elle at May 27, 2017 03:27 PM (Rsi2C)

33 A while back, a bobtail longhair orange/white striped kitty appeared in our yard. My darling bride started feeding it, so it stuck around, imagine that.

Anyway, it got liquored up and loved on, or the feline equivalent, and, surprise, surprise, a litter of four kittens arrived.

The daddy must have been of a swarthy variety, for two of the brood are black striped. The remainder favor their mama.

Interestingly, one of each color pair are bobtails. Whodathunkit?

Posted by: eastofsuez at May 27, 2017 03:30 PM (oKO0e)

34 M16A3 ?

Posted by: grump928(c) at May 27, 2017 03:23 PM (apyCW)


Flattop.

As I said, it's probably the lighting in the picture or editing, it just looks like it's one big molded plastic piece. 'Swhy I thought it might be from a movie.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 03:30 PM (wB8Tg)

35 I love Rowan, what a handsome heeler.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 03:30 PM (Ri/rl)

36 Again, an almost ridiculously good-looking buncha moranimals. You can see how hard they work for their kibble.

Son's puppy stayed at my house last weekend. She is really pretty good for 4 mos and does try to obey. My old dog keeps her in line if her puppyness gets ahead of her. Cat finally confronted the puppy and could not understand why she wasn't cowering and crying like the toddler when the cat has had enough. I think mine forgot the two kittens who stayed weekends when son was busy and couldn't leave them alone yet. Puppies and kittens are cute and all, but the sigh of relief when they go back to their own home is pretty heartfelt.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 27, 2017 03:30 PM (MIKMs)

37 in other news, we adopted a new kitteh last week.

we were at the feed store for cat litter and such, and there was a new flyer for "Royce" who's person had gotten very ill, and wouldn't be coming home to care for him.

the location was right around the corner, so we went over, decided he seemed like a good fit, and brought him home.

he wasn't happy with the trip. and spent the first day or two under the bed during the day, but would come out late at night.

then he started coming out when Resident Evil came home from w*rk.

as of yesterday, he's out and about, just like all the other house lions.

gonna be awhile though, before we see how he likes his new yard.

he's a DSH tabby, very vocal, and is already taking no shit from the other boys. he even put Mijo in check, which serves the pushy little shit right.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 27, 2017 03:31 PM (rq3YI)

38 How many times do you have to just miss a garter snake with the lawn mower before it's a pet? Asking for my cat.

Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2017 03:31 PM (FhXTo)

39 I think part of is that the pup probably weighs more than PVT Wenke.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 27, 2017 03:32 PM (brIR5)

40 Perhaps Merovign, you could write a story for the picture? Set it into the future on another planet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:25 PM (TiwO/)


Yeah, ideas are *not* my problem.

I'm already summarizing like 12 books into the future trying to get new ideas out of my head so I can work on what I'm supposed to be working on.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 03:32 PM (wB8Tg)

41 yaaay the food thread!

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:32 PM (ILitO)

42 does Obama eat escargot? if he does, does he know what it is?

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:33 PM (ILitO)

43 by the way, I still appreciate whoever it was who first came up with "Donny Two-Scoops". Same person could have called me "Hillary Twelve Shots" but I would have found him and turned him into... never mind...

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:35 PM (ILitO)

44 ok, where is everyone..?

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:36 PM (ILitO)

45 Pasture walk in very tall grass with Layla the Wonder Pup today. Tick city after all the rain we've had! I found 3 crawling on me when we got back. I may need to borrow a vial of her flea and tick treatment.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 27, 2017 03:36 PM (/SBPe)

46 Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2017 03:31 PM (FhXTo)
------
Your cat cuts the grass?

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 03:36 PM (Sfs6o)

47 and Keith Olbermann is still a twat.

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:36 PM (ILitO)

48 I have a cat that will eat spider plants till he throws up.

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:37 PM (ILitO)

49 I think it's interesting that the guy made a harness for his fish. I think that was very clever engineering.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 27, 2017 03:39 PM (qES5k)

50 So when is Barky commencing his post-presidency apology tour?

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:39 PM (ILitO)

51 RIP Gregg Allman

Posted by: vizzy at May 27, 2017 03:40 PM (s5Khz)

52 re 49: very useful when you want to take your fish for a walk.

Posted by: Hillary Rodman Mallfly at May 27, 2017 03:40 PM (ILitO)

53 Our rough collies (one a backyard breeder dog, the other a Gambit collie) would lay in the doorways when the weather was good and the doors were open. If a child, or even me, went outside, one would follow and the other would stay inside to guard they family. If I was working outside for a long time, the outside collie might eventually go back inside, but the other would come out to watch. Always. Best dogs ever.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at May 27, 2017 03:40 PM (w7U7L)

54 Beautiful pets again, people! Love those collies, so dignified looking.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 03:41 PM (+tKYk)

55 Merovign, I thought your first novel was done and all you were doing was tweaking/fixing it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:41 PM (TiwO/)

56 Years ago collies were getting a rep for being dumb because allegedly they were being bred only for their sexy looks.

I'm glad to learn that's not true!

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 03:43 PM (bwBxJ)

57 I still have toddler coming over at least one day a week, even though I am supposed to get a vacation while kidlet#2 is on maternity leave. The two old farts (dog and cat) really went into a decline when they didn't have the kid for a couple weeks. They both seem to remember what a baby is and I was laughing when they laid down on separate sides of the car seat with noses touching the new baby's leg. It will be a zoo when I have both grandkids, but my trusty assistants will be there to nag me if the baby snuffles or fills her pants.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 27, 2017 03:45 PM (MIKMs)

58 Posted by: redc1c4 at May 27, 2017 03:31 PM (rq3YI)

Congratulations on your new family member. That was nice of you to adopt the cat from a person who was sick. When we got our ferall rescue Tabby from a from a friend the cat got out of the room we had her in and retreated to a crawlspace in what we call our box room. She was in there for two days, I got worried but now (2 years later( she's a happy inside cat looking out the windows and occasionally jumping up up and hanging off the front door window l as if it's bars in a prison and she had rather high decibel level purr.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 27, 2017 03:45 PM (qES5k)

59 Merovign, I thought your first novel was done and all you were doing was tweaking/fixing it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:41 PM (TiwO/)


Last chapter needs a rewrite.

Then the whole thing needs a revision pass, I have like 20 pages of notes.

If I could focus that would be easier. Rough time with meds recently.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 03:46 PM (wB8Tg)

60 Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 27, 2017 03:36 PM (/SBPe)

Speaking of ticks, vet gave me a prescription for Bravecto for Conor and so far it seems to be working. It is not a tick repellent, but ticks that bite supposedly wither and die within 6-12 hours or so. The dose lasts for 12 weeks. Conor seems no worse for wear after most of a week and I haven't seen a new tick yet, and the old ones dropped off, but it is still early in the tick season, and the monsoons here have been conducive to walks.

I don't like meds like this but Conor was plagued with ticks before and was really upset when I tried to remove ticks, so I decided to try this.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 27, 2017 03:47 PM (gwPgz)

61
*Trumpet fanfare!* The Pet Thread!

Another great job, MisHum and another great selection of Moron Pets. Love the ones who were rescues and love their rescuers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2017 03:48 PM (F8jk2)

62 For two hours I worked in the flower beds, then my terrier mix came over and sat down in front of me.
Smart dog...time to quit.

Beer!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 27, 2017 03:48 PM (0tfLf)

63 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 03:19 PM (vRcUp)

I could be rather sensitive but I thought the comment about "Pets are just not interested in the things we care about" showing what was obviously intended to be Jesus and the two thieves on the cross was rather smug. Would they have shown jihadis cutting off people's heads? I doubt it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 27, 2017 03:49 PM (qES5k)

64 When I was a youngster my best friend's family had a collie. I could never figure out why she always smelled so much better than the dogs we had on our farm. Eventually it dawned on me that the collie actually got regular baths instead of just swimming in the creek.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at May 27, 2017 03:49 PM (/SBPe)

65 Almost forgot about the pet thread! Darned errands.

Great looking bunch.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 27, 2017 03:49 PM (PY9jH)

66 Mother and kitten. Awwww-so cute!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 27, 2017 03:50 PM (qES5k)

67 The cat that adopted us a month or so ago has taken over. He's not as affectionate as he was at first. Guess he figures, I got what I wanted, now I'll do as I please.
He loves to be outside and is a good hunter. Hope he puts a dent in the Vole population.

Posted by: Ronster at May 27, 2017 03:50 PM (CDUSe)

68 As always, a great looking group of well loved pets.

S. Lynn, what livestock do you use the pens for?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 03:51 PM (evw2O)

69 38 How many times do you have to just miss a garter snake with the lawn mower before it's a pet? Asking for my cat.
Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2017 03:31 PM (FhXTo)


A snake on my property means a for sale sign in my front yard.

Posted by: Ladylibertarian at May 27, 2017 03:51 PM (TdMsT)

70 Twenty pages of revisions?

Are you fixing really massively glaring problems or polishing that P1800 chrome fender one more time just to discover you managed to remove the last atom of chrome to expose the nickel coating below?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:52 PM (TiwO/)

71 Oldest daughter Maegan the Virtuous was shepherdess at Mt Sac college for 5 years. When she first started, the sheep would head for the bottom 40 and refuse to obey. She called me up and said, "Daddy, I need you to bring Clearwater down." He'd never seen a sheep in his life, but the next morning she took him with her. The sheep ran to the bottom 40. Megs took the collie down, and ran a sweep with him to herd the sheep to the barn. The next morning, "She said to him, "Go get the." Dog joyfully sweeps into the field, and drives the sheep to the barn. The next morning, the sheep saw the collie coming and ran to the barn. Both the collie and the sheep knew their job. Later Megs had me bring Tamarack, the other collie, and did the same thing with her. Collies are the BEST. DOGS. EVER.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at May 27, 2017 03:52 PM (w7U7L)

72 A few weeks ago I mentioned we were considering adopting a kitten through a rescue organization. Went through the paperwork and home visit. Precious little guy.

Upon giving ourselves the weekend to consider, we chose to allow our soon-to-be sixteen y.o. kitty to live out however much time she has left in peace.

She seems to have recovered fully from Spanky's death, and is doing really well on her hyperthyroid meds, putting on weight, and occasionally going on a running sprint through the house, nearly bouncing off the walls.

When she passes (which vet said could be a few more years), we'll adopt two (perhaps bonded) kitties.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 27, 2017 03:53 PM (PY9jH)

73 Hadrian the Seventh- How did the show turn out?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 03:54 PM (evw2O)

74 Holy shit, that doggie in the pic looks balls-out happy as hell!

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 03:54 PM (GsAUU)

75 Love the pet thread. My cuddle monster is Mellie, a cat rescued twice. Has only been outside once. She greets me at the door every night, curls up with me to sleep, and is only interested in the keyboard when I'm using it. She's my boon companion. Now if I could get her to understand that she's supposed to eat any bugs. . .

Posted by: Biblio at May 27, 2017 03:55 PM (4Dr5C)

76 Dogs and cats need jobs to feel accomplishment just like people. It always amazes me how much they crave the responsibility -- like I said, they go into a decline when they don't have their own job whether self-appointed or assigned.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 27, 2017 03:56 PM (MIKMs)

77 I think part of is that the pup probably weighs more than PVT Wenke.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 27, 2017 03:32

The pups' weight crossed my mind, that's a big dog to carry on your shoulders. I'm not about to hoist our 100 lb Bailey on my shoulders and carry her very far!

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2017 03:56 PM (4bBUU)

78 Wow, so many pairs of handsome pets!

I love this islet of peace and calm.

I'll put off listening to Mark Steyn's latest video for a bit.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 03:57 PM (GsAUU)

79 Oh man.
Not Gregg.
I'm really getting old. Saw them at the Honolulu International Center probably 44 years ago.

Posted by: teej at May 27, 2017 03:58 PM (qREJU)

80 Our Sandy sleeps pressed up against my side every night. She will actually go and meow and "nag" my husband to get him to come to bed, and then she gets on his chest to allow him to "worship" her. She's been doing this since she was teeny tiny. Oh, and when she's on his chest, she tucks her right paw under her chest and grabs his finger or thumb with her left paw and squeezes it like a baby does.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 27, 2017 03:58 PM (PY9jH)

81 MY big boy Smokey brought me a present yesterday morning. A dead possum. I think he felt bad for it because he kept looking at it and looking at me. "Make it move!" My husband disposed of it. He usually brings in live things that he drops on the kitchen floor and then we spent hours looking for them all over the house. Our female just kills the creatures and leaves them where they lay. Smokey wants to play with them a while. This is the boy that was supposed to have died of pneumonia in January. He's a tough old guy.

Posted by: Abby at May 27, 2017 03:59 PM (HBU7W)

82 Are you fixing really massively glaring problems or polishing that P1800 chrome fender one more time just to discover you managed to remove the last atom of chrome to expose the nickel coating below?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 03:52 PM (TiwO/)


Neither. In the process of writing (sadly kind of out of order) I have simply found a lot of things I can substantially improve.

Rather do it now than wait through half a dozen rejection slips 'cause they saw the same things. This is taking too long, but that would take a lot longer.

I may be crawling across the finish line, but I intend to finish.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 27, 2017 04:00 PM (wB8Tg)

83 they go into a decline when they don't have their own job whether self-appointed or assigned.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 27, 2017 03:56 PM (MIKMs)


Conor Dog has decided his job is to jump on the sofa and get in my lap whenever I sit down and try to read! And he's trained me into realizing there are far worse ways to read!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 27, 2017 04:01 PM (gwPgz)

84 Reading about Gregg Allman.
11 times in rehab.
Married to Cher.
Hep C.
And still, he made it to age 69.
My wife once administered an EKG test to him back in teh '90s.
Came home describing all of the tattoos he had.

Posted by: navybrat at May 27, 2017 04:01 PM (w7KSn)

85 Posted by: Abby at May 27, 2017 03:59 PM (HBU7W)


Lol. We have a friend whose cat brings them "gifts" every night. They have to check her mouth before they let her in, because she's brought in mice and lizards that she's turned loose.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 27, 2017 04:01 PM (PY9jH)

86 Wait....what happened to Gregg Allman??

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 27, 2017 04:02 PM (PY9jH)

87 86 Wait....what happened to Gregg Allman??
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 27, 2017 04:02 PM (PY9jH)

+++

Passed away. No cause given yet.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:04 PM (+tKYk)

88 My dad's cat would do that too. He would bring in snakes and frogs from their pond. Smokey is my dog, though, and I have never received live presents from any of our other dogs. He has a very soft mouth and even came in with a baby bunny that managed to hop all over our house.

Posted by: Abby at May 27, 2017 04:04 PM (HBU7W)

89 Love the pix of the dobies! Our "princess" Lola is a 12 year old dobie who weights in at 65 lbs w/o an ounce of fat on her. How do I provide a pix of her for this weekly feature? Txs!

Posted by: Zogger at May 27, 2017 04:04 PM (SKahJ)

90 Oh, yeah, almost forgot.
Liver transplant.
RIP Gregg.

Posted by: navybrat at May 27, 2017 04:05 PM (w7KSn)

91 I could be rather sensitive but I thought the comment about "Pets are just not interested in the things we care about" showing what was obviously intended to be Jesus and the two thieves on the cross was rather smug. Would they have shown jihadis cutting off people's heads? I doubt it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Gah. I'm an idiot - I just kind of blanked out in confusion when I saw it the first time. I think that was just an obnoxious slam against Christianity.

"They want nothing to do with our perilous and tortured agendas". Stupid English poofter caused me to think at the beginning that he would veer off into something libtarded.

I'm starting to think that the only alternatives are Christian theocracy, Secular Theocracy or Muslim Theocracy, and the last two are the same. As an unbeliever, I think I would prefer the first.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 04:05 PM (vRcUp)

92 Former VP candidate Tim Kaine's youngest son, Linwood*, was arrested for protesting at a pro-Trump event.

*Who names a kid Linwood?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 04:05 PM (TiwO/)

93 Hadrian the Seventh- How did the show turn out?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 03:54 PM (evw2O)


Dot: Won her Futurity class. Got a cut in American-Bred.

Delilah: Won the Bred-by-Exhibitor class (always a very tough one) but wasn't Winners or Best Bred-by.

Carmen: Best Brood Bitch in Futurity. Second in 7-10 Veteran Bitch to the eventual Best in Specialty winner.

The peanut gallery loved Delilah, who might have been, with justice, Winners. Her Majesty, who wanted her to duplicate grandmother Lacey's feat of going Winners at the National to finish in 2000, was disappointed, but I pointed out that Lacey was almost a year older when she did it.

Next year, Richland, WA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2017 04:07 PM (Sxn4J)

94 Beautiful Rottweilers.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 04:08 PM (89T5c)

95 The worst horror one of my cats inflicted on me was leaving three dead baby bunnies outside the patio door - all perfectly lined up in a row.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:09 PM (+tKYk)

96 FoF pitcher, Congressman and Senator Jim Bunning has left the dugout, age 85.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 27, 2017 04:09 PM (brIR5)

97 Jim Bunning dead today at 85. Hall of Fame pitcher and former US senator.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 27, 2017 04:09 PM (qJhUV)

98 Jim Bunning dead today at 85. Hall of Fame pitcher and former US senator.

RIP Gregg Allman


I feel fine!

*nervously checks pulse*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2017 04:12 PM (tVnTe)

99 83 they go into a decline when they don't have their own job whether self-appointed or assigned.


Ginny has several jobs. Her self assigned ones are to make sure that the mailman, ups driver, and fedex guys hear her viciousness (she sounds like a squeak toy) and retreat from the house after they've approached. So far she's been highly successful.

He second self assigned job is to make sure no one climbs the 8 foot fence at the far back of the yard. Most times people walk completely down its length before realizing that she's protecting the place. She must continually run the entire distance or they might double back. This task has given her "impressive musculature" according to the vet. Might want to copy it for GAINZZ.

Another is to answer the house phone. When it rings she rushes to it. Hasn't figured out how to do the rest, but she's go the first part down.

Also acts as greeter, food sweeper, cooking pan/pot degreaser.

Weirdly, she's the only dog I've ever had that "hugs" like a person.

Assigned tasks are simpilier, companion, alerter, vermin killer and warmth provider.

Posted by: dagny at May 27, 2017 04:12 PM (xrSGs)

100 About 0130 one night I heard Ra, my one-eyed no-tail cat, talking loudly outside. So opened door to investigate, Mama Cat and him promptly come inside. Whereupon Ra drops to the floor the body of a vole which he proceeded to eat in front of me with crunchy noises clearly heard.

Ah, pet love.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 04:12 PM (TiwO/)

101 Remember a couple of nights ago when several of us Morons were talking abour perfect games?

R.I.P. Jim Bunning.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bunning%27s_perfect_game

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:13 PM (GsAUU)

102 Brody had his first exposure to a coyote the other day. I heard him baying and spotted the varmint.

Brody was content to bark from the safety of the barn.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 04:14 PM (evw2O)

103 Success Merovign, may it be a runaway best-seller for you.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 04:14 PM (TiwO/)

104 I'm starting to think that the only alternatives are Christian theocracy, Secular Theocracy or Muslim Theocracy, and the last two are the same. As an unbeliever, I think I would prefer the first.Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 04:05 PM (vRcUp)


At a minimum, fewer mass graves with the first.

Posted by: dagny at May 27, 2017 04:15 PM (xrSGs)

105 Ugh, Jim Bunning's Wiki page is almost 100% about his Senate career, not his baseball one.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:15 PM (GsAUU)

106 Love the pairs of pets today. Especially the kittehs.

And Rowan reminds me of one of our dear departed dogs. Nice pose.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 04:15 PM (BVQ+1)

107 Posted by: dagny at May 27, 2017 04:12 PM (xrSGs)

+++


My son's Lab also likes to hug. In fact he insists upon it.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:16 PM (+tKYk)

108 No voles in the yard thanks to the neighborhood kittehs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2017 04:16 PM (89T5c)

109 Oh, and when lefties talk about "Christian theocracy" they always mean "uncelebratory of buttsex."

Posted by: dagny at May 27, 2017 04:16 PM (xrSGs)

110 My spirit soars when I make it in time to catch the Pet Thread while it is happening, instead of a day later. My new chemo wreaks havoc on my time sense but this week I managed to get it right. I dunno how...
Thanks, horde.
Will be sending my (neurologically challenged) Rosie's pics soon. Yeah I know you've all heard that before but I really do mean it.
Love you all, and your fur babies (past and present).
Balm for my besieged body and mind.
Blessings always.

Posted by: Ritabootoo at May 27, 2017 04:18 PM (yebHB)

111 Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 04:05 PM (vRcUp)

Yes; It was s slam against Christianity. My analogy was a poor one and the video is probably against religious belief in general, but they wouldn't have had the guts to show a Muslim reading a Koran.

America will never be a Christian theocracy. The closest we came was the Massachusetts Bay Colony.

Perhaps you should just consider asking God to reveal Himself (I don't mean asking God to do some miracles or "show tricks. i.e., levitate my car" to prove God's existence) but just to do it in simple ways. This is discussed in a chapter in a book "Ten prayers God always says yes to" by Anthony DeStefano-a good book, IMO-which you could probably get from interlibrary loan. I have to go now and this is the pet thread and not the theology thread (Sorry for the digression folks!)-but you are obviously a smart, interesting and thoughtful man and I'm sure God would be pleased could you come or once again come to believe in him. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 27, 2017 04:18 PM (qES5k)

112 105 Ugh, Jim Bunning's Wiki page is almost 100% about his Senate career, not his baseball one.
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:15 PM (GsAUU)


Here you go.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/B/Pbunnj101.htm

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 04:20 PM (sdi6R)

113 From Wiki:

As the perfect game developed, Bunning defied the baseball superstition that no one should talk about a no-hitter in progress, speaking to his teammates about the perfect game to keep himself relaxed and loosen up his teammates. Bunning had abided by the tradition during a near-no hitter a few weeks before, determining afterwards that keeping quiet didn't help.[2]

Gus Triandos, Bunning's catcher, had also caught Hoyt Wilhelm's no-hitter on September 20, 1958 while with the Baltimore Orioles, becoming the first catcher to catch no-hitters in both leagues.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:20 PM (GsAUU)

114 Posted by: Ritabootoo at May 27, 2017 04:18 PM (yebHB)

+++

So glad you are here today. I will pray for your good health and successful chemo treatments.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:21 PM (+tKYk)

115 My neighbor keeps wishing very loudly that I had another mighty hunter cat like my previous. Cat would leave vole bodies at the back doors of favored neighbors every day -- who were well-trained by the hunter to dispense treats.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 27, 2017 04:21 PM (MIKMs)

116 Watching The Steel Helmet on TCM.

Seems like a good Memorial Day Weekend flick.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:23 PM (GsAUU)

117 and this is the pet thread and not the theology thread
=====

Oh, I don't know. There does seem to be some overlap with all Creatures Great and Small (including us).

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 27, 2017 04:24 PM (MIKMs)

118 Gus Triandos, Bunning's catcher, had also caught Hoyt Wilhelm's
no-hitter on September 20, 1958 while with the Baltimore Orioles,
becoming the first catcher to catch no-hitters in both leagues.

Bunning beat Tracy Stallard in his perfect game against the Mets. Stallard also gave up Roger Maris's 61st homer in 1961. Talk about the wrong side of history.

Posted by: tu3031 at May 27, 2017 04:25 PM (qJhUV)

119 I've tried to imagine the consciousness of a cat, and the nearest I can come is that it is something that sees you come into its visual field, and then consists of expectations. Totally selfish. I love cats, but I am not at all convinced that animal consciousness is anything like human consciousness, so I wouldn't rush into the whole "I prefer animals to people" thing. They are really a black box.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 04:26 PM (vRcUp)

120 Bunning beat Tracy Stallard in his perfect game against the Mets. Stallard also gave up Roger Maris's 61st homer in 1961. Talk about the wrong side of history.
Posted by: tu3031 at May 27, 2017 04:25 PM (qJhUV)

--So Stallard was the William Jennings Bryan of baseball?

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:27 PM (GsAUU)

121 Brattleboro wants to wish Presdent and Micheal Obama a Happy Memorial Day. We miss and still love you both ...

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 27, 2017 04:28 PM (WmgTn)

122 We await a bitch puppy, a Belgian sheepdog. The momma's due about June 6, so we'll have our new girl first week August.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 27, 2017 04:31 PM (BeKMO)

123 121 Brattleboro wants to wish Presdent and Micheal Obama a Happy Memorial Day. We miss and still love you both ...
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 27, 2017 04:28 PM (WmgTn)

--Speaking of ghey butt secks . . .

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:31 PM (GsAUU)

124 Kid from New Hampshire is going for his FIFTH consecutive no hitter today

http://tinyurl.com/y7m98d8s

Posted by: tu3031 at May 27, 2017 04:32 PM (qJhUV)

125 Rita, I had been wondering to myself how you're doing, and here you are! I hope the side effects lessen or at least become more manageable.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 04:33 PM (bwBxJ)

126 Rita:

Prayers up for renewed strength and healing.

Posted by: ibguy at May 27, 2017 04:37 PM (c5dWW)

127 Congratulations, Les Kinetic. Good time of the year for a puppy. Plenty warm outside for the pee call.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 04:39 PM (evw2O)

128 >>>Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 27, 2017 04:18 PM (qES5k)

Ok Thank you, I'll look that up. That title is a teaser.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 27, 2017 04:40 PM (vRcUp)

129 Heh, one of the ads on the HQ home page is for Svedka.

The Universe is trying to tell me something, and it's that I can't afford Svedka but I shall drink vodka.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:41 PM (GsAUU)

130 Is that a shoulder-fired Alsatian the soldier is carrying?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 27, 2017 04:42 PM (nlbfN)

131 Posted by: Ritabootoo at May 27, 2017 04:18 PM (yebHB)

Glad to see you here and hope that the chemo does the good things it is supposed to and with very few of the side-effects.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 27, 2017 04:43 PM (gwPgz)

132 Right now there's a really awesome Gregg Allman, Jim Bunning, Zbigniew Brzezinski jam session going on in heaven.

Posted by: mark1971 at May 27, 2017 04:43 PM (xPl2J)

133 Zbig croaked as well?

Zbig: "Take my daughter. Please."

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:45 PM (GsAUU)

134 Who names a kid Linwood?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 04:05 PM (TiwO/)

Probably his mama or one of his grandmother's maiden name.

We do that down here, which is how why you see a lot of women named Michaels, Carter, etc.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 04:45 PM (BAfyf)

135 Kind of approppos that Greg Alman died on Memorial Day weekend. I heard him give an interview to Dusty Street on a Memorial Day years ago where he was bragging how he got drunk one night and shot one of his toes off so he would flunk his pre-induction physical during the Vietnam war.

Everyone on the radio thought it was just too cool; me, not so much (remember, this was Memorial Day).

I've always wondered who had to go in that rich prick's place, and if he made it through nam OK.

Posted by: Subterranean JT at May 27, 2017 04:48 PM (qG0hz)

136 Snakes ( the non poisonous kind) are there to get rid of other creatures. I'm sure Rattlesnakes, Cottonmouths and Water Moccasins eat pests too but no thanks to them.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 04:49 PM (Ot7+c)

137 136 Snakes ( the non poisonous kind) are there to get rid of other creatures. I'm sure Rattlesnakes, Cottonmouths and Water Moccasins eat pests too but no thanks to them.
Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 04:49 PM (Ot7+c)

--Cottonmouths are the same snakes as water moccasins.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:51 PM (GsAUU)

138 Everyone on the radio thought it was just too cool; me, not so much (remember, this was Memorial Day).

I've always wondered who had to go in that rich prick's place, and if he made it through nam OK.
Posted by: Subterranean JT at May 27, 2017 04:48 PM (qG0hz)

--It sure as shit wasn't Bill Clinton.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:52 PM (GsAUU)

139 --Cottonmouths are the same snakes as water moccasins.
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:51 PM (GsAUU)

+++

I guess that's good. In a sense.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:52 PM (+tKYk)

140 Former VP candidate Tim Kaine's youngest son, Linwood*, was arrested for protesting at a pro-Trump event.

He belonged to a group that was paid to provoke fighting. I don't think I would shed a tear if they were victims of police brutality.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 27, 2017 04:53 PM (VdICR)

141 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Checkers at May 27, 2017 04:53 PM (DMUuz)

142 I found a snake in the lobby where I work about a month ago. I've been there over 20 years and there was never a snake in the lobby before.

So you never know.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 04:54 PM (sdi6R)

143 Washrivergirl, stace gets two scoops and ibguy:
(& any I miss):
Thank you all so much for your prayers and good wishes, especially from those here with their own life issues (you hearing me, ibguy?)

I mostly lurk, and I find myself praying almost constantly for various horde members/family/friends. Because prayer works. I'm proof, been on chemo for over two years. Someday I Will grasp that light at the end of that tunnel that keeps winking at me. God willing.

I am blessed. And I reiterate; I love you all. You lift me up.
But now I must snooze. This "being on time" stuff Can be wearying.

Everyone have a wondrous Memorial Weekend, beloveds.

Posted by: Ritabootoo at May 27, 2017 04:56 PM (yebHB)

144 shot one of his toes off so he would flunk his pre-induction physical during the Vietnam war.

And yet he married Cher. I know which one seems scariest!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 27, 2017 04:56 PM (GXVIG)

145 Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 04:54 PM (sdi6R)

+++

How'd you "deal" with it?

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (+tKYk)

146 Cher filed for divorce after 9 days.
I wonder who out-weirded who.

Posted by: navybrat at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (w7KSn)

147 Scariest moment in my life. I'm swimming in a lake and look up and there is a wad of water moccasins in the water right in front of me. Thank G-d I wasn't very far from shore.

I never swim in anything but a pool now.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (evw2O)

148 Gotta love Comedy Central, having this The President Show, making Trump, a ridiculously successful businessman, out to be a moron after eight years of Slow Joe and the Diversity Hire President who gave us "corpseman." To be sure, Trump has a lot of tics and quirks that are funny and ripe for comedy, but this is so nakedly partisan that Teh Funneh is just stillborn.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:58 PM (GsAUU)

149 Years ago we lived across the street from a very nice couple, both majors in the Army.

My husband and I were in our front yard one day when we noticed some distress across the street. Our neighbors came over and asked us what to about this little snake on their porch they were scared of. I was happy to go over there, ID it and move it, but the whole time I was thinking, gee these folks are in the Army and they're scared of this thing? I guess I should've cut them some slack for being yankees and not familiar with the local fauna. They actually did the smart thing.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 04:59 PM (bwBxJ)

150 7 adorable animals - the turkey hug video - on YouTube, four thumbs-down.

Who in everlovin' heck would down-vote a hugging turkey video? Maybe it was some friends of the dog.

Howdy, Animal Morons. Our report: all five cats and the dog continue to live in relative health, although the dog is showing signs of not being a puppy anymore.

Posted by: mindful webworker - arf arf it is to larf at May 27, 2017 04:59 PM (hGZJP)

151 I'm tired of all these muthafuckin' snakes on this muthafuckin' thread!

Posted by: SLJ at May 27, 2017 04:59 PM (GsAUU)

152 Cher filed for divorce after 9 days.
I wonder who out-weirded who.


Britney Spears got married and annulled in 55 hours. Isn't it nice to have public figures who take their vows so seriously?

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:01 PM (6FqZa)

153 146 Cher filed for divorce after 9 days.
I wonder who out-weirded who.
Posted by: navybrat at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (w7KSn)

+++

How decidedly odd is that? What on earth would you discover after 9 days of marriage that you hadn't known previously? I'm pretty sure they had relations way before they tied the knot.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:01 PM (+tKYk)

154 147 Scariest moment in my life. I'm swimming in a lake and look up and there is a wad of water moccasins in the water right in front of me. Thank G-d I wasn't very far from shore.

I never swim in anything but a pool now.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (evw2O)

--Same here. With the ocean, I'm sick of the sand in the car, the jellyfish, and beaches scorching my feet.

Fresh water? Unless I'm in a tube or some other vessel, forget it. Watch the Animal Planet show Monsters Inside Me to get a taste of the predatory colonists (amoebae that can blind you, for starters) you can acquire there.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:04 PM (GsAUU)

155 147 Scariest moment in my life. I'm swimming in a lake and look up and there is a wad of water moccasins in the water right in front of me. Thank G-d I wasn't very far from shore.

I never swim in anything but a pool now.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (evw2O)

+++

Just no.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:04 PM (+tKYk)

156 145 Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 04:54 PM (sdi6R)

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How'd you "deal" with it?
Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:57 PM (+tKYk)


It was only a foot long and as thick as a cigarette. Cute lil' thing. It was tan and maybe a little darker on top. I don't know if it was a baby or an adult of a small species.

I had never heard of any poisonous snakes around here, and also I thought that poisonous snakes had bold, colorful markings. I later learned that last part isn't true.

But, not knowing that at the time, I gently picked it up behind its head and released it outside.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:04 PM (sdi6R)

157 After 8 days the drugs and the booze wore off.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 05:05 PM (evw2O)

158 They both rode a horse with no name? Cher and Greg that is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 27, 2017 05:06 PM (d4e3K)

159 Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:04 PM (GsAUU)

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If you watch that show you won't even take your shoes off and go barefoot just getting your mail - as one man did and got a life-threatening parasite lodged in his foot.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:07 PM (+tKYk)

160 Apparently Greggy was high during most of their marriage:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/gregg-allman-cher-marriage/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 27, 2017 05:07 PM (NT3RT)

161 nood chess/dress pr0n

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at May 27, 2017 05:07 PM (Z3xqO)

162 But, not knowing that at the time, I gently picked it up behind its head and released it outside.
Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:04 PM (sdi6R)

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Pretty brave for not knowing what the heck it was.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:08 PM (+tKYk)

163 Sherman's gonna have relations!

Posted by: Granny Klump at May 27, 2017 05:09 PM (Tyii7)

164 162
Pretty brave for not knowing what the heck it was.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:08 PM (+tKYk)


In hindsight, I'm thinking it was more on the "foolish" end of the spectrum.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:10 PM (sdi6R)

165 Elijah Blue Allman seems to have turned out better than his half sister brother ? Chastity, so, there's that.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 27, 2017 05:10 PM (6FqZa)

166 69 38 How many times do you have to just miss a garter snake with the lawn mower before it's a pet? Asking for my cat.
Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2017 03:31 PM (FhXTo)

...............

I had one cross my path 3 times the other day. Finally I just ran him over.

Posted by: Molly k. at May 27, 2017 05:10 PM (OOXlj)

167 If you watch that show you won't even take your shoes off and go barefoot just getting your mail - as one man did and got a life-threatening parasite lodged in his foot.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 05:07 PM (+tKYk)

--I grew up in the South and knew about hookworms at a young age, fortunately not the hard way.

Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 05:10 PM (GsAUU)

168 I pick up all snakes with a shovel, right after bashing them into oblivion with it.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 05:11 PM (evw2O)

169 I had never heard of any poisonous snakes around here, and also I thought that poisonous snakes had bold, colorful markings. I later learned that last part isn't true.
....
Coral snakes, which are extremely venomous, are bright colored, but they resemble some other species of harmless snakes. If the red bands touch the yellow bands, it's a coral snake so do not mess with it.

I worked at a large aquarium that was all new construction on newly cleared land, so we got interesting visitors at first. One time we were eating in the staff cafeteria when a cook came out from the kitchen with a dried up dead snake on his broom. We started reciting the old rhyme "red on yellow, kill a fellow..." Yep, that's a coral snake dude.
In our employee kitchen.
Awesome.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 05:18 PM (bwBxJ)

170 I had collies - they've been gone these several years and I miss them very much. They were merry and brave and true.


Posted by: SarahW at May 27, 2017 05:18 PM (Sp1NT)

171 I don't have much to say about it except I lost a special cat last week (put down from a sudden and rapidly advancing cancer) and May suddenly turned into February.
I can't quite snap out of the desire to just sit in the dark and not move.

Posted by: SarahW at May 27, 2017 05:21 PM (Sp1NT)

172 My son's Lab also likes to hug. In fact he insists upon it.Posted by: washrivergal at May 27, 2017 04:16 PM (+tKYk)

Excellent, so it's not just her!

Posted by: dagny at May 27, 2017 05:22 PM (xrSGs)

173 #Great pet pix, as always.

The pooches sure demonstrate the variety of canines. They may all be the same species, but hardly the same family - appearances and behaviors.

Just one example: dogs who love the water v dogs like our guy who detests it.

Those collies are just beautiful (or handsome, as per zheir gender preferences). Excellent critters - for someone else. We wouldn't want a purebred, really - give me a good mutt any day - nor a long-hair out here in rural Okla.

We had a found-us Australian Shepherd with a thick, tight coat, perfect for Alaska, not so much Oklahoma. (Miss ya, Foggy Doggie!) Had to keep him clipped for at least 3/4 of the year. Since he was blind in one eye and didn't like to be approached on that side, shaving him could be a real task, and might occasionally involve sedation.

Our current German Shepherd-whatever mix (who also found us) is a short-hair, utterly mellow temperament, relatively easy to care for; perfect for us. We'd be mighty lucky to get another pooch as smart and devoted as our old guy.

Now to read comments.

Posted by: mindful webworker - who's a good boy? at May 27, 2017 05:26 PM (hGZJP)

174 Sarah, get another cat!
Rescue a cat, for your own good and for the cat.

Posted by: navybrat at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (w7KSn)

175 Collies. What else is needed? I want one!

Posted by: Rosasharn at May 27, 2017 05:29 PM (PzBTm)

176 91 I could be rather sensitive but I thought the comment about "Pets are just not interested in the things we care about" showing what was obviously intended to be Jesus and the two thieves on the cross was rather smug. Would they have shown jihadis cutting off people's heads? I doubt it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


I had the same reaction you did. I'm glad you posted your comment. I'm feeling low today because it's the anniversary of my dad's death (heart attack; he was much too young for that, and I was only 15 when he died). He was a WWII vet, so the photo of the soldier at the top of the pet thread was all I needed . . . to make my eyesight blurry again. To get back to the video-- the last thing I needed was a putdown of the faith that sustains me. So thank you again.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 05:30 PM (3C9q2)

177 SarahW, So sorry for your loss. Most of us here have been through it. Give yourself a little time to mourn (and that what it is) but try not to dwell on the sorrow too long. Remember the moments that made your cat special and take joy in them. Yeah, there will be moments when the tears come again. That's OK.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 05:31 PM (V+03K)

178 #Caturday

Skip #1: Happy Caturday everyone

Okay, didn't get far in the comments yet, obviously.

This reminded me to go check bluebirdofbitterness.com for her Caturday post. The theme this week is Feline Summer Recreation program. Really funny collection.

Posted by: mindful webworker - catnapping =/= kitnapping whut? at May 27, 2017 05:31 PM (hGZJP)

179 Thank you Mis Hum and all you 'rons that shared your photos. I love seeing them all. Favorite thread of the week.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 27, 2017 05:36 PM (RfzVr)

180 --Cottonmouths are the same snakes as water moccasins.
Posted by: logprof at May 27, 2017 04:51 PM (GsAUU)

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I guess that's good. In a sense.


Missed the copperheads, though.

Posted by: Grey Fox at May 27, 2017 05:40 PM (bZ7mE)

181 Ben, water moccasins don't gather into balls, but harmless water snakes do. Several species of harmless water snake look just like water moccasins. We have scads of them on my granny's place and for awhile I was scared to swim too until I finally learned the difference.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 05:41 PM (bwBxJ)

182 This reminded me to go check bluebirdofbitterness.com for her Caturday post. The theme this week is Feline Summer Recreation program. Really funny collection.

Thank you for the tip-- hadn't seen that blog before, and really needed something to lift my spirits.

Posted by: Basement Cat at May 27, 2017 05:43 PM (3C9q2)

183 I'm sorry, SarahW.

Posted by: rickl at May 27, 2017 05:50 PM (sdi6R)

184 #Rural Life

Several days ago, I was talking with the neighbor at the shed. We share a large yard. His daughter and granddaughter were zipping around the acreage on their zero-turns while he criticized their technique. Heh.

Granddaughter zips up, hops off the mower, goes to the truck, and comes back with a nice little pistol, zips away again.

As she goes off, the neighbor brags how all his kids and grandkids have their licenses.

Thanks to my extensive knowledge of hoplophilia, derived almost entirely from reading this blog, I said to him, "and I bet they all keep up on their practice, too."

He assured me, yes, indeed.

Then six shots rang out from north of our house. When I got over there, the ladies had a rake, and were holding up a snake, with three gaping holes, still hissing and trying to strike. The grand-daughter was pretty proud that she'd hit him three out of six, and it was amazing he was still wiggling with those holes blown in him. He wouldn't last long.

First time we've ever found a water moccasin that close to the house. All the rain temporarily made EPA-controllable wetlands out of the place, so I hope this will remain a rare, if not unique, instance.

Okay, not a pet. Um... Um... our cats were inside (as usual during mowing) so none of them were harmed.

Posted by: mindful webworker - never miiiiind at May 27, 2017 05:54 PM (hGZJP)

185 Mindful web worker, that's pretty good! Ask my embarrassed brother how hard it can be to hit a snake with a pistol.

A shotgun on the other hand....I remember my mom using hers to blow the head off a rattler, which still kept striking for awhile even without its head. Good times.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 06:08 PM (bwBxJ)

186 #Kitteh Gifts

Milady and I, and Dog, spent Thursday night down at my Mom's, and Daughter took care of the felines.

Next morning, she texted me: "Saw all kittehs but Spark. He may be sleeping off his mouse from last night!"

She reported that the previous night Spark had been observed having much sport with the carcass.

As usual, it was Spark's sister Spirit who had caught it. #Guycat Privilege

Spirit ditched the kill to go hit some fresh kibble Daughter brought out. Go figure.

Daughter wondered if kibble was some kind of kitteh crack. (I think Spirit is just watching her svelte summer weight.)

#Rural Life

Daughter hung out awhile on the porch, and chased off (sort of) a sneaky raccoon raiding the kibble.

* slow reader goes back to reading comments *

Posted by: mindful webworker - tales to somnambulize at May 27, 2017 06:20 PM (hGZJP)

187 Stace- This lake became notorious for them. A water skier was pulled into a mass of them and died from the bites.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 06:23 PM (mvhy+)

188 The dog I grew up with became very lethargic one day and laid in the garage on the cool concrete. We took him to the vet who said he had been bitten by a poisonous snake but had somehow survived. The experience turn him into a snake hating machine. Our property had several nests of copperheads as it turned out and we spent the next year or so tracking them down and destroying them.

Our dog, which we had named Rover, for laughs, was like a mongoose with a cobra after his snake bite recovery and I watched him many a time bobbing and weaving as the snake struck at thin air. When the time was right, Rover would dart in and grab the snake behind its head and shake it like a bullwhip until he had broken its spine. While all this was happening one of us was there with an axe, rake, or brush-hook trying to get a shot in at the snake, because we didn't want Rover to get bitten again. Decades later, I still miss that dog.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 27, 2017 07:02 PM (gwPgz)

189 Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2017 06:23 PM (mvhy+)

You don't want to mess with poisonous snakes. Daughter in law got bitten by a copperhead while walking their dog. Son took her to ER as soon as he could, but years later she still suffers from nerve damage in that leg!

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 27, 2017 07:05 PM (gwPgz)

190 This week was my dog-iversary. Four years since Agatha and Edgar entered my life and took over my house.

Posted by: biancaneve at May 27, 2017 07:17 PM (A/iod)

191 [Googled it.] The picture is of SSgt Elisabeth Wienke and MWD Cchance. [The double initial in the dog's name is deliberate.]

See slides #9 and #10 for more: http://preview.tinyurl.com/yc3rcdl7

Posted by: Chas C-Q at May 27, 2017 09:19 PM (Y0Piu)

192 33 - east of Suez: I had a friend who bred and showed Himalayans. According to her, there are genetics, and then there are cat genetics. (My friend passed away a few years back. Her last Himalayan is currently sleeping on my husband's knee.)

Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable cats at May 27, 2017 09:42 PM (sm/rk)

Saturday Gardening Thread: The Horde before summer [KT]

Welcome to this week's AoSHQ Gardening Thread! Some great photos from The Horde are featured today, without much information on plants unless it comes from the photographers.

In a recent comment thread, Don included a link to a close-up of a Desert Bluebell, Phacelia campanularia, that he grew last year. "It did fairly well here in Kansas, blooming until midsummer, and it was very, very blue." Check out some of his flower photos in their original size. Inspiring. Go ahead. You won't regret it.

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My thinker is moving at about sloth speed after faraway anonymous committees of experts deigned that my previously acceptable migraine medication regimen is no longer acceptable. Time will tell how well my brain adjusts to the change in meds. I will just say that I have not been at my best this week. So I have turned to The Horde for help.


KT's mind chasing an obvious point this week

Here is some superfluous, but interesting, information about sloths. In case you were thinking of going on an all-leaf diet.

To start out, here is one of Kindltot's beautiful nature photos from Oregon. "A fine reminder of why I love spring".

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I love the color contrast and composition in Naughty Pine's photo, especially if it was accidental:

This is from my front yard aka The Garden Of Misfit Plants. This was a spindly tulip from an Easter arrangement a year ago and the crawling flowers come from a 75-cent leftovers at Lowe's. The violets are volunteers. The hosta? I moved it last year but must have missed some roots!

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Budman wrote about the following two photos:

This is what I have to put up with every day from my office on the back patio.

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Wish the view from my office were that nice. I could stand to spend part of the Memorial Day Weekend there. How about you?

Lantana was a trooper during our drought, I will have more to say about the plants featured in Budman's garden later.

JQ Flyover included some links to photos of her Clematis vines. Here is her "nearly feral" C. montana along with some Dr. Ruppel. See more at the link. Wow.

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This is what my garden produce looked like about this time of year a few years ago. But somebody stole most of our apricots this year under the cover of darkness. Stripped two trees. Well, one (a true apricot) didn't have much fruit. The Aprium did. And the fruits were lush this year because of the cooler weather. Drat.

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On the other hand, the Arctic Star Nectarines are still hard this year, probably also due to the cooler weather. Didn't get around to planting squash, green beans or turnips this year. Life got in the way. We have harvested a few really good cherry tomatoes, though. The pomegranates are blooming on schedule.

We're still thinning nectarines. Hard to thin enough the first time around. Looks like we didn't thin enough the year that photo was taken, either.

On the theme of contributions from The Horde, remember that you can check back to see late contributions to the comment threads here. There were some great late comments last week.

Anything going on in your garden?

California Girl (not CaliGirl) sent in the following Mystery Flower from a recent retreat in the California foothills. Care to take a stab at identifying it? The plants are about 3 inches high.

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To be continued next week if all goes according to plan.

If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you want to be a lurker.

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1 Good Afternoon greentumbs

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 12:02 PM (Ot7+c)

2 Found my cocoon of the Imperial Moth O found in my compost, it is in garden but don't think its alive. It was moving in the fall but doesn't seem like it now. Also lost a cucumber as it was broken off. But things are slowly growing here.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 12:06 PM (Ot7+c)

3 KT, I'm so sorry to hear about your migraines. I only had a few, in my twenties, and they were awful. I hope this new medicine works for you.

Beautiful post, as always. And lovely pictures. I'm especially happy to see my fellow bluebells getting some love!

Posted by: bluebell at May 27, 2017 12:08 PM (sBOL1)

4 Hi, Skip. Don't give up on your moth yet. They move at certain stages of development, but may stop moving at other stages.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:08 PM (BVQ+1)

5 If I had a apricot tree I would be out nightly, armed and watching it

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 12:09 PM (Ot7+c)

6 A new thread, darn! I didn't think that our discussion of glue on the last thread had fully cemented yet.

Posted by: StrawMan at May 27, 2017 12:10 PM (lidp8)

7 Its now on top in garden, I was planting more lettuce sprouts and tried to trim back chives hoping to get them growing. Should cover the cocoon up with compost

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 12:11 PM (Ot7+c)

8 And wood ticks are evil this year her.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 12:11 PM (Ot7+c)

9 bluebell at May 27, 2017 12:08 PM

Thanks for your concern. Actually, the pain factor remains pretty much under control for me. (Side note: It is generally a bad idea to take an opiod for migraines. Can make them permanent. Spread the word).

The new medication does not seem to fully control some of the symptoms that go along with migraine - dopiness, photophobia, a little nausea. But dopiness especially. Weird.

Gonna have to read up on how these drugs are supposed to work.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:15 PM (BVQ+1)

10 My thinker is moving at about sloth speed after faraway anonymous committees of experts deigned that my previously acceptable migraine medication regimen is no longer acceptable...

Something I was looking into recently might have some value. I was looking up the properties of maple syrup (the real thing) and discovered that one of the substances in it is very good for migraine sufferers. A natural brain anti-inflammatory, if you will.

I started looking into maple syrup, in particular, for the substance that also appears to make it a natural anti-depressant. It might just be the same mechanism of action. Less brain inflammation, happier individual. Brain inflammation is also linked to Alzheimer's and other dementias.

Anyway, splurge, buy a bottle of the real thing and start your day with some pancakes smothered in maple syrup. Give it a couple weeks.

If it helps, remember me when the Nobel Peace Prize committee for medicine votes next year.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 27, 2017 12:16 PM (HTdUD)

11 StrawMan at May 27, 2017 12:10 PM

The thread below is an open thread. Feel free to continue the glue discussion.

Have a great day.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:17 PM (BVQ+1)

12 E Depluribus Unum at May 27, 2017 12:16 PM

Thanks!

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:19 PM (BVQ+1)

13 Great pics! Love the garden thread brag book. Puts us in touch with a kinder gentler side of the Horde from across the land.

Posted by: kallisto at May 27, 2017 12:19 PM (kD8Fh)

14 Thank you for mentioning my pictures.

California Girl's mystery plant looks like an Erodium, perhaps E. cicutarium.

https://uswildflowers.com/detail.php?SName=Erodium%20cicutarium

I got most of the cactus and succulent seeds started this week, and there's already germination in majority of the pots. They're mainly small cacti, e.g., Mammillaria and Turbinicarpus, or slow ones, e.g., Ariocarpus, but there are also some Lithops and stapeliads. It will probably be at least two years before many are photogenic.

Posted by: Don at May 27, 2017 12:27 PM (0yuZ3)

15 I got the gardens tilled last weekend and have started planting. Everything is so delayed this year because of the rains.
I planted lettuce and spinach too, but I expect them to bolt when they get two true leaves because of the heat.

I am sprouting corn to plant, and I am waiting for melon starts to come out from the local farmers' market. This year I plan to suspend the melons in those mesh bags I buy 5 lbs of onions in so they don't get attacked by whatever those millipede looking things are that eat my melons from underneath.
For some reason I didn't get any volunteer squash so I may buy some actual plants.


Anyhow, tomatoes, peppers, squash, corn and melons are the main plants, and I will see what else catches my fancy

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 12:28 PM (mkDpn)

16 Put in 7 new roses this weekend, gallicas and albas. Won't see too much til next spring, but the zephirines will time me over. Will be adding many more carnations tomorrow. Pruned back the lilacs and have the thing under control!

Posted by: CN at May 27, 2017 12:30 PM (2+tI4)

17 Posted by: Don at May 27, 2017 12:27 PM

OK if I use your Dr. Hugo rose in the near future?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:31 PM (BVQ+1)

18 Skip at May 27, 2017 12:11 PM

Ticks! Nasty.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:33 PM (BVQ+1)

19 KT, I hope you can get past the migraines and thanks to you and the Horde members for those wonderful photos.

We will have Memorial Day salad this weekend. The leaf lettuce, spinach and chives are ready to be clipped. And the next wave of greens is starting to come up. Yippee!

We finished planting most everything this past week and nothing has died yet. Although the bar, obviously, is not set high, that is a significant victory.

The only thing left to plant is a hill of winter squash. We have better luck growing those from seed sown in the garden instead of starting them indoors. Don't know why.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 12:33 PM (V+03K)

20 KT, feel free to use any of my pictures anytime.

Posted by: Don at May 27, 2017 12:34 PM (0yuZ3)

21 I think I mentioned I dug a new pond, relocated the old one and added more length for fishes to explore, I had decided to do that as this time I will see it from our bedroom windows as they are floor to ceiling instead of where guests go, which is why the previous location. Lol lngthy post I guess, I realized while doing so when I put the previous pond in with help, this time I solo-d it, it almost killed me digging through rocks , but it's almost finishing up with plants. no veggies for me this year it is all ornamentals for us to enjoy colorful excitement, and relaxing sounds.

Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 12:35 PM (iS1Cb)

22 Kindltot at May 27, 2017 12:28 PM

Do you sprout corn as a way to avoid birds eating the seed/seedlings, or do you have another reason?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:36 PM (BVQ+1)

23 btw kindltot I am so jealous that you live in Oregon, always wanted to be there.

Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 12:36 PM (iS1Cb)

24 I think you posted that sloth video to make me jealous. Those little guys are moving faster than I am lately

Sorry about the migraines, KT. I don't have that specific problem but I know it can be hard to adjust to new drugs when one has to switch.

I haven't planted anything here at our new house yet, but I'm finally getting the urge to plant some color, especially outside my office window where the landscaping is ok, but boring. These threads are motivational.

The heat and humidity are de-motivators if I wait until afternoon to get to work.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 12:37 PM (bwBxJ)

25 15 ... kindltot, As to leaf lettuce bolting, we have had our best results with black seeded Simpson Elite. Even compared to the regular black seeded Simpson, it lasted a good month longer before bolting. We are in zone 7 in Virginia. We haven't found a comparable spinach as resistant to bolting.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 12:39 PM (V+03K)

26 CN at May 27, 2017 12:30 PM

Wow. You go for the really old roses. I used to visit the gallicas and albas at Descanso Gardens in Southern California when I lived down there. They had some huge specimens. Are you more interested in history, form or fragrance?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:39 PM (BVQ+1)

27
As a by-the-way to gardeners -- Lowes has their 5 bags of mulch for $10.00 sale this weekend (until the 5th iirc). The skids are lined up from one end of the pick-up area to the end, both sides. Many part timers are there to help loading.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at May 27, 2017 12:40 PM (HTdUD)

28 Don at May 27, 2017 12:34 PM

Thanks, Don.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:40 PM (BVQ+1)

29 Gotta run to the library before it closes for the holiday. (Jacques Pepin cookbooks) Be back shortly.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 12:41 PM (V+03K)

30 ty, d b u .

Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 12:45 PM (iS1Cb)

31 Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 12:39 PM (V+03K)

I asked my husband about the lettuce bolting. He said if it's too hot, all lettuce bolts. He said you cut it in half and there's a seeder in the middle. He can't sell it if that happens.
They try to control it by only planting certain varieties in certain places.

I think it was rhomboid that asked.

That's all I've got.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 12:52 PM (Ri/rl)

32 JTB at May 27, 2017 12:33 PM

The garden Memorial Day salad sounds great. I have better luck with squash started in the garden, too. Or transplanted when very small.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:55 PM (BVQ+1)

33 Not much gardening happening. 87 hours of work so far this week. But if I really push today I might get some done tomorrow before the rain.

Posted by: Gordon at May 27, 2017 12:56 PM (YBHpR)

34 willow at May 27, 2017 12:35 PM

Wow. The pond work sounds like a lot of . . . work! Hope you enjoy the results. Glad the Army Corps of Engineers did not intervene.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:57 PM (BVQ+1)

35 KT, I plant Indian corn and I use my own seed. It shortens the sprouting time in the garden, and it makes sure that I don't have duds that don't germinate.

I was told that if I soaked my corn before planting it, it would speed up sprouting, so I soak it until it sprouts too

I also get to choose what colors I want to grow and check if they aren't sprouting, and I am running a personal check on how long my seed corn stays viable. It looks like I am getting to the end of the usefulness for seed corn I grew about 2012


Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 01:00 PM (mkDpn)

36 Thank you KT as always for the lovely thread.

Also thanks for the tree info. It's tough figuring out how to care for things no one has seen in my area before.

I search the internet but I'm not sure I'm looking at the same tree.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 01:01 PM (Ri/rl)

37 Gordon at May 27, 2017 12:56 PM

Don't over-do it, Gordon.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:02 PM (BVQ+1)

38 E Deplurbus Unum, I discovered if the tree service dumps their chippings in your side yard and you don't get to it for a year and a half, it starts turning into bark-a-mulch.

And the tree services generally will dump that stuff in your yard for free if you don't have trees you need cut and chipped.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 01:02 PM (mkDpn)

39
23 btw kindltot I am so jealous that you live in Oregon, always wanted to be there.
Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 12:36 PM (iS1Cb)

Just visit and enjoy. Always been partial to the Blue Mountains and non-Bend Central Oregon. Avoid Portlandia, the smelly, untended compost pile of Oregon.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 27, 2017 01:04 PM (e1mEI)

40 CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 01:01 PM

Do you think your trees are California Buckeyes?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:05 PM (BVQ+1)

41 Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 01:02 PM (mkDpn)

When I have the tree guy cut back trees, they leave big wood and the mulch. The guy that works here that I defer to won't let them dump the chips from trees that weren't cut here. I don't know why.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 01:06 PM (Ri/rl)

42 Just put in some hostas on the side of house along with some irises that Lowes had on clearance. And I have some fuschia in a lot on the front patio. Petunia baskets are next. Followed by a cold local amber ale. Love me some spring time.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 01:08 PM (Xr2/U)

43 Willow, late Spring is a great time to visit the Willamette valley, early Spring is a fantastic time to visit the Columbia gorge.

Rent a car at Portland airport, drive East along the gorge. And drive, and drive and drive . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 01:08 PM (mkDpn)

44 What are those things in the bowls in the picture? Is that what is supposed to come out of my plants?

Posted by: Weasel at May 27, 2017 01:11 PM (Sfs6o)

45 CaliGirl you run the risk of bringing in diseases and possibly invasive plants. It is similar to not bringing in other people's leaves and debris for compost.

I live in the middle of town and don't rely on my orchards and fields, so I am more relaxed about chips, I would get them from the place on the side of town anyhow. I suspect they also get the chips from the tree services as well as their yard-debris dumpsite

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 01:12 PM (mkDpn)

46 kindltot, perhaps one day I will do so and never return to darken the door of this ugly sw deserty area again.

Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 01:13 PM (iS1Cb)

47 Yeah, KT. I do have limits. But the step kid family has challenges that will not abate. We will probably have to buy them a place to live. They're trying to manage without welfare, with a severely autistic teen. So I work.

The tomato grafting project did not succeed this year. Apparently after sprouting they must be in a cooler place so as to develop thick stalks. Thus mine were too spindly for the grafting clips to hold. But I do have plenty of ungrafted stock to plant.

And I can grow a few practice sets to improve my skills before next year.

Posted by: Gordon at May 27, 2017 01:16 PM (YBHpR)

48
41
Disease. Plants are like people, the more you move, the faster contagion spreads. My guess.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 27, 2017 01:17 PM (e1mEI)

49 My columbine is in full bloom, the wild lilies will be blooming in the next week. What I look forward to the most however is when my prickly pear cactus blooms. Gorgeous yellow flowers. Just stunning. Shame it only lasts a few days.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 01:19 PM (CNHr1)

50 Willow, the legislature is the main danger here.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 01:20 PM (mkDpn)

51 CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 01:08 PM

That's the way to do it.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:20 PM (BVQ+1)

52 Gordon at May 27, 2017 01:16 PM

Wow. You do have some challenges.

Grafting tomatoes, as I understand, takes some special conditions. I think it is often done under a misting apparatus. Kudos for trying it.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:25 PM (BVQ+1)

53 DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 01:19 PM

Sounds beautiful. What region are you in?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:27 PM (BVQ+1)

54 kindltot as they are all around the country. grasping pocket filling sell outs.

Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 01:27 PM (iS1Cb)

55 I'm going to give the Garden Tower a try again this year. The first year was a failure due to bad soil and last year it sat idle because the wife was getting her hip replaced.
Worms have been added to the composting center and now we are waiting for the temperatures to get warm enough for seeds to germinate.

Posted by: Ronster at May 27, 2017 01:27 PM (CDUSe)

56 Headless body of agnew, I remember back in the day when you would cross back and forth state to state where they had checkpoints for flora and veggies.

so I think that was an actual deal.

Posted by: willow at May 27, 2017 01:28 PM (iS1Cb)

57 26 CN at May 27, 2017 12:30 PM

Wow. You go for the really old roses. I used to visit the gallicas and albas at Descanso Gardens in Southern California when I lived down there. They had some huge specimens. Are you more interested in history, form or fragrance?


Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 12:39 PM (BVQ+1)
All of the above. And family history as my grandmother was a huge rosarian

Posted by: CN at May 27, 2017 01:30 PM (2+tI4)

58 I just remembered that I had bought a six pack of little chili pequin (we call them petit) peppers and need to plant them around the yard.

I can't believe having to buy them. My previous house was in the wooded floodplain and we had wild chili bushes popping up all over thanks to the birds. Not so here in the higher drier part of the 'hood.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 01:30 PM (bwBxJ)

59 Not petit--petin. Thanks for nothing autocorrect.

Posted by: stace gets two scoops at May 27, 2017 01:31 PM (bwBxJ)

60 Ronster at May 27, 2017 01:27 PM

Best of luck with the garden tower this year.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:37 PM (BVQ+1)

61 Weasel at May 27, 2017 01:11 PM

Heh.

Persist.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:38 PM (BVQ+1)

62 *raises hand*

Ooh! I have a gardening question:

I got a bunch of weed prickles in my gardening clothes. Anyone know how to get those out so I can wear them again? I do not want to just put them in the washer like this and risk spreading prickles to my other laundry.

Do I have to work them over with tweezers or is there an easier way? I tried gaff tape but the prickles stick to the clothes, especially the wool socks, more than they stick to the tape.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 01:41 PM (ZapPq)

63 49 ... Jewels, Could you send some photos of those prickly pears when the bloom to KT? Cactus flowers are usually gorgeous. I'm sure we would all like to see them.

Posted by: JTB at May 27, 2017 01:42 PM (V+03K)

64 CN at May 27, 2017 01:30 PM

Wonderful background. Fill us in on the details as they bloom. I remember that some of the old roses looked odd at Descanso in winter, with their branches turned under all around the center of the plant, sort of like giant rose donuts.

I used to read the "Roses of Yesterday and Today" catalog at night when I couldn't sleep. Black and white, great prose. No drama.


Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:43 PM (BVQ+1)

65 40 CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 01:01 PM

Do you think your trees are California Buckeyes?
Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:05 PM (BVQ+1)

Yes, they look exactly the same. I need to make a well around the trees so I can water them.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 27, 2017 01:44 PM (Ri/rl)

66 It seriously needs to stop raining in N. Indiana.

Nothing planted.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at May 27, 2017 01:44 PM (M+ILP)

67 At the beginning of May I helped my sister do some planting in her garden. We had been having crummy weather at the end of April, but suddenly things improved vastly the first week of May.

Funny thing. Went to a very large home and garden store on a Sunday about ten minutes after they opened. Hardly any parking at that point. Full, as you can imagine here in KS of pickups and Suvs. So spent about 40 minutes there, and when we left it looked like there was NO parking anywhere.

Nice thing I noticed, the prices. My sister bought 5 plants, a new trowel (since we were both going to be digging), bamboo stakes for some plants, plus ties for the stakes. Only came to $23.00.

Not bad.

Posted by: HH at May 27, 2017 01:44 PM (DrCtv)

68 I live in the Kansas City area. Would be happy to send pics to anyone who wants them.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 01:45 PM (CNHr1)

69 Emmie at May 27, 2017 01:41 PM

Dang. Wool socks and prickles. I would put other clothes through a wash cycle by themselves to get rid of most of the prickles.

Wool socks? I turn to those with more expertise. The only advice I have is to cut the prickles short and pull them all the way through from the pointy end, with tweezers.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:48 PM (BVQ+1)

70 Best of luck with the garden tower this year.Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:37 PM (BVQ+1)

Thanks KT, I'll need it. I'm the guy that can't even grow squash.

Posted by: Ronster at May 27, 2017 01:49 PM (CDUSe)

71 DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 01:45 PM

The address is at the bottom of the post. We would love to see the blossoms.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:50 PM (BVQ+1)

72 Short song about the sloth (forgot how to embed URLs again.)

http://tinyurl.com/ydebw5c8

Posted by: Glen at May 27, 2017 01:50 PM (rdznT)

73 I will send some pics to you KT. I can send a before that I took this morning. Also some of the columbine. Then will send the cactus in bloom. I'm so happy I'm off this month so I can really enjoy them!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 01:54 PM (CNHr1)

74 Thanks, KT.

I have no idea what weed produced these prickles. It's new in my yard. We live in a rural area.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 01:55 PM (ZapPq)

75 Our choke cherries and lilacs are in full bloom. Smells great outside.

Posted by: Ronster at May 27, 2017 01:59 PM (CDUSe)

76 KT.. just emailed the pictures.

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 02:02 PM (CNHr1)

77 Glen at May 27, 2017 01:50 PM

That song is wonderful. Especially the middle part. Thanks.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:03 PM (BVQ+1)

78 Oh love lilacs!!!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 02:06 PM (CNHr1)

79 Just found a thing called Burz Off. It looks like it works kind of like a sweater stone.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:08 PM (ZapPq)

80 Jewells,

Got them! Thanks.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:08 PM (BVQ+1)

81 OT horde.

Never mind me, trying to set up this little chromebook. Gonna take some getting used to for sure.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 27, 2017 02:09 PM (b8+C/)

82 Had to go back to the store to get mulch. Came back with a handful of French marigolds and something called a Potentilla. I am now on restriction and require adult supervision when I go to the nursery.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 02:11 PM (Xr2/U)

83 Glen at May 27, 2017 01:50 PM

The song didn't say anything about sloths needing to go to ground to poop once a week, though. Heh.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:11 PM (BVQ+1)

84 My catalpa trees are blooming, and today we are planting some tomato, jalapeno, and corn in our very abbreviated veg garden. We have two raised veggie beds but only opening one this yr. Getting to it a bit later than usual and preferable. No green beans this yr and no onions or cucumbers. Oh well maybe next year.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:11 PM (yTnCT)

85 You're welcome!!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 02:12 PM (CNHr1)

86 weirdflunky at May 27, 2017 02:09 PM

Good luck with the new-to-you gadget.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:12 PM (BVQ+1)

87 Tomorrow is definitely gardening day. We got some rain today, warm and sunny tomorrow. Will move some more potted plants out to the deck... thin out the hostas and columbine. Been neglecting it what with a full time job and starting a business. But June is full of promise!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 02:13 PM (CNHr1)

88 Madamemayhem, I love Catalpa flowers! They remind me of orchids.

They are related to the Desert Willow tree, but you'd never know it by the leaves. The blooms are similar.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:14 PM (ZapPq)

89 madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:11 PM

If you have a vacant bed this year, are you in a warm enough climate to solarize to kill weeds?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:14 PM (BVQ+1)

90 88 Also, the Catalpa seed pods are fun to have sword fights with.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:14 PM (ZapPq)

91 I love those huge leaves on our trees. Hubbymayhem bitches and threatens my trees because of the beans. Says they are a menace when mowing. I'm the one who mows so my lovely trees remain!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:16 PM (yTnCT)

92 Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:14 PM

Absolutely right. There is a tree thought to be a hybrid between the two called a Chitalpa. It doesn't make seed pods.

A few of the desert willows also don't make seed pods. I don't think the Chitalpa attracts hummingbirds like the desert willow does.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:17 PM (BVQ+1)

93 Potentilla... I would imagine in the same family as the mandevilla and I grow them every year. They are so damn hearty and beautiful!

Posted by: DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 02:19 PM (CNHr1)

94 *off to Bing Chitalpa*

Those are lovely as well! I bet they'd grow well here in Colorado.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:20 PM (ZapPq)

95 madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:16 PM

I love those huge leaves, too. Ever get the caterpillars that live on them?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:20 PM (BVQ+1)

96 Potentilla is a hardy, yellow-flowered shrub.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:22 PM (ZapPq)

97 If solarize equals leave the black cover on to bake the weeds and their seeds to death, then yes. South Central Indiana does get hot enough in the summer and that's what I'm trying to do. I don't use chemicals on the veggie garden but the compost we used for a few yrs seems to be made of weeds. It was so bad last year that I could not keep the weeds out and they just choked the living shit out of the veggies. Got almost no produce out of the garden.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:22 PM (yTnCT)

98 Catalp-illars

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:23 PM (ZapPq)

99 My uncle planted the catalpa trees specifically for the worms which he said we the BEST bait for fishing. I don't pay attention to them.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:25 PM (yTnCT)

100 DeplorableJewells45 at May 27, 2017 02:19 P

Potentillas are related to roses rather than to mandevillas. There are both perennial and shrubby kinds. Which do you grow? Flower color?

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:25 PM (BVQ+1)

101 Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:20 PM

Sunset doesn't rate Chitalpa for the very coldest parts of Colorado. Check locally.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:27 PM (BVQ+1)

102 Well, I have some gardening tasks to get done before it rains today.

1) dig trenches for flood irrigation
2) plant veggies before they die in their nursery pots
3) collect prickles in my socks

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:29 PM (ZapPq)

103 madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 27, 2017 02:22 PM

Best method is actually a double layer of solar-stable clear plastic with an air layer in between. Prepare soil for planting, fertilize and water before solarizing. Seal the edges of the plastic so air doesn't leak in.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 02:30 PM (BVQ+1)

104 Thanks, KT. We're high desert. Chitalpa might be more suitable for warmer desert areas.

On the other hand, our area is referred to the Banana Belt.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:31 PM (ZapPq)

105 Oooh, my Clematis is now a *star!* Thanks, KT!

The 'feral' C. montana is a gift from Mom. She loved the mass of blooms and (after many failed attempts) got cuttings to take root. Iirc, it works best after blooming-- but I haven't been successful yet.

She bought The First One in the late 80s/early 90s, wanting to cover a 12ft wide trellis below her 2nd-level deck. After training it horizontally the first few years, completely covering the trellis' width, she just let it go... all the way up to deck rail and along the railing... after about 10 years it was Spectacular. Yuuge and Luxurious, even!

People driving by would stop to compliment and ask "what IS that?" She would simply *glow* as she answered, then offer them a rooted cutting.

Sadly, both Mom and her original lovely showstopper are now gone. (Dad's not much for gardening.)



Posted by: JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 02:32 PM (5muuD)

106 JQ, that is a fun story (except for the part about your mom being gone).

Glad you have a lovely reminder!

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:34 PM (ZapPq)

107 I see clematis at the nursery and it looks beautiful I wonder if it would coexist with honeysuckle on the fence?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 02:39 PM (Xr2/U)

108 Emmie - Don't know if it will work but overheard duct guys saying duct tape used on clothing then taking it off was a good way to get fiberglass out of clothing.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 02:39 PM (Ot7+c)

109 Catalpa is related to Lapacho, which is both a yellow and purple flowered tree from Paraguay and Argentina. They are both bignoniaceas.

Lapacho is also used as a tanning agent for vegetable tanned leather - but I don't think I can grow it here, it needs warmer climate.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7f96anp

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2017 02:43 PM (mkDpn)

110 I see clematis at the nursery and it looks beautiful I wonder if it would coexist with honeysuckle on the fence?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

I don't know. Why not simply try it?

Oh, wait... you're on restriction at the garden shop. Hmm.

Aha! Find a straw buyer for your clematis!

Posted by: JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 02:44 PM (5muuD)

111 110>> Heh! I wonder about compatibility with respect to watering. We had clematis in Texas and it did not like a lot of water. I'm pretty sure the honeysuckle won't mind as long as it doesn't sit in water. And the clematis grew really quickly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 02:53 PM (Xr2/U)

112 Pet Nood

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 02:55 PM (Ot7+c)

113 So I've done precisely Jack and Squat in the actual garden area this year. Tomatoes and peppers are languishing in their nursery pots but I have *many* large pots/planters and a few bags of soil.

I think it's going to be a Deck-Garden year. There's just too much work, too much to do here there and everywhere, not enough time or motivation to go around.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 02:56 PM (5muuD)

114 My poor garden experienced a hail storm on the 8th and 7-8 inches of snow later on. The hut type covers work, after a fashion, though one did collapse. The brassica are recovering, the potatoes refuse to emerge, but the garlic and onions (unprotected) act as if nothing happened. Lost all plums and peaches which set, but the trees are ok. Debating whether to set tomatoes and eggplant out next week. The soil temperature is holding at 55 to 60.

Posted by: stonecutter at May 27, 2017 02:58 PM (Bfr22)

115 I still have 1/4 of my garden open, and a spot if that cucumber is done.
Still want green or wax beans.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 03:01 PM (Ot7+c)

116 Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 03:01

You're ahead of me Skip, I've got about half my garden to plant yet. It's been cool and rainy so the warmer weather stuff wouldn't have done much anyways.

Onions, lettuce, beets, peas, potatoes are all doing fine. Then in a break in the weather got some tomatoes in and the old cuke and pumpkin seed finally emerged. Really want to get green beans in this coming week.

Posted by: Farmer at May 27, 2017 03:12 PM (4bBUU)

117 Had two ticks caught on me today, just felt one crawling up my back. Cut its little freaking head off.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2017 03:18 PM (Ot7+c)

118 Emmie at May 27, 2017 02:31 PM

Look yourself up in the Sunset Western Garden Book. Chitalpa is rated to Zone 3. It's not just for deserts.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 03:44 PM (BVQ+1)

119 JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 02:32 PM

Ideas for starting cuttings:

1. Peg some branches down and cover them with soil.

2. Air layer with sphagnum moss

3. Scrape some bark off on two sides for a couple of inches and allow it to callus. Roots should grow more easily from the callused area. Use rooting hormone.


Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 03:48 PM (BVQ+1)

120 CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 27, 2017 02:53 PM

Probably depends on the clematis and the honeysuckle. Most of the large-flowered clematis types are not as vigorous as C. montana. And they like their roots to be in a cool place. Even under a flat rock or slab of cedar.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 03:52 PM (BVQ+1)

121 JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 02:56 PM

Sometimes a small garden works better than a big one.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 03:57 PM (BVQ+1)

122 stonecutter at May 27, 2017 02:58 PM

Those late cold spells are the pits. Sounds especially cold for eggplant.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 03:58 PM (BVQ+1)

123 KT, good point. Little huts for a couple of weeks (cloches).

Posted by: stonecutter at May 27, 2017 04:34 PM (Bfr22)

124 Thanks for your replies, KT.

For clematis starts, I had only tried a few cuttings in water. It's my go-to method for so many plants. Fairly certain Mom had done it with summer cuttings (half-ripe?) and kept them in a bottle on northeast-facing windowsill. Don't know if she scarred/calloused the stems first.

Will designate a spot for pinning down some branches--got to keep the bunnies out! I've 'ground-layered' rhododendrons this way before.

Will also try your #3 method... what growth stage of wood do you recommend?

--------

Small garden ftw! I get overwhelmed so easily anymore. Oh, to be young again. (or *able* to retire from fulltime work!)

Posted by: JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 04:36 PM (5muuD)

125 From Naughty Pine's original photo, I think the lavender crawling flower is Creeping Phlox.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 04:38 PM (BVQ+1)

126 Nice thread KT ... as usual. Glad the migraine pain is under control, hope the side effects are tolerable. Like Huey Lewis says ... "I need a new drug".

My Mom had Lewy body dementia (similar to Alzheimer) and took a drug called Reminyl, which is derived from daffodils. I'm not sure it worked better than the other more directly biochems used, but the use of "naturally" occurring treatments is always interesting to me. (But I have no clue about "organic" migraine drugs)

My ten "red twig" sticks are all just starting to push little leaves, I sprayed some strips around but outside my fenced in area by the pond and in a few days will till it up and rake in a pound of "deer resistant" bulk wildflower mix.

Am deciding if I like the little bunnies around the yard, or if they must die. I got my electric fence up to stop deer, so will probably allow the bunnies space to entertain me despite munching on my garden. It's nice to be King.

Posted by: Illiniwek at May 27, 2017 04:41 PM (yKkG7)

127 Agree w/KT on Creeping Phlox.

Posted by: JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 04:42 PM (5muuD)

128
I used to read the "Roses of Yesterday and Today" catalog at night when I couldn't sleep. Black and white, great prose. No drama.




Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 01:43 PM (BVQ+1)
They make a nice product. These latest were from Colorado as I prefer a potted plant, even if it's on the small side. IMHO nothing beats the old roses for scent and size and rose hips. When my grandmother deliberately bent the canes it was to put some of the cane underground to make the plant root on it's own root stock (another thing I prefer). Few things in gardening are sadder than the reaction of someone who believes their hybrid tea is putting out long healthy canes in order later to find that it's the root reverting to type and they end up with a rather foetid smelling homely rose plant (but at least the black spot is truly gone)

Posted by: CN at May 27, 2017 05:06 PM (2+tI4)

129 125 From Naughty Pine's original photo, I think the lavender crawling flower is Creeping Phlox.
Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 04:38 PM (BVQ+1)


Yep; that's what it is.

Posted by: Emmie at May 27, 2017 05:11 PM (ZapPq)

130 JQ Flyover at May 27, 2017 04:36 PM

Method #3 I think was for softwood cuttings. Or as you would say, half-ripe. But you could try some other stages, too. You have to be careful not to cut too deep when removing a strip of bark. I have only seen it used with cutting started in pots, with potting mix.

Next best to this method is to remove some leaves and bury the leaf nodes, from which roots should emerge.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 05:55 PM (BVQ+1)

131 Illiniwek at May 27, 2017 04:41 PM

Nice that you are making a plan. Maybe you can get the bunnies to stay mostly in one area?

On "organic" drugs: I used to take ergotamine for migraine. It is related to LSD and is derived from that natural rye fungus that made whole towns go loco from time to time.

I think it has much more serious side effects than most of the synthetic agents for migraine on the market. But it was once the best available drug.

Not sure if what I am now experiencing (milder than a few days ago) is from medication or from my body trying to produce a migraine.

Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 06:07 PM (BVQ+1)

132 "On "organic" drugs: I used to take ergotamine for migraine. It is
related to LSD and is derived from that natural rye fungus that made
whole towns go loco from time to time.
I think it has much more
serious side effects than most of the synthetic agents for migraine on
the market. But it was once the best available drug." KT

wow ... interesting ... I was a chem major before hort major. Real chem is good stuff. The "natural" may give us some clues, but we are in "the garden" to dress it and keep it (adam/eve reference) ... or my interpretation ... Better living through chemistry ... and testing and double blind studies, all that.

You have found a good balance ... hope you find the best fix. cheers ...

Posted by: Illiniwek at May 27, 2017 06:22 PM (yKkG7)

133 Thanks, Illiniwek. Interesting that you have both chem and hort backgrounds.

On migraine meds, I am not the only one facing these changes. I have friends who are not adjusting well. I hope that these prescribing recommendations are not coming from rigidity based in old study designs. It's good to have efficacy shown in a double-blind study. Not so nice to say that dosing limitations in original study designs should roll back years of apparently safe and effective use.

As far as natural chemistry in the garden goes, I think there is something to be said for "biodegradable".














Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 07:40 PM (BVQ+1)

134
125 From Naughty Pine's original photo, I think the lavender crawling flower is Creeping Phlox.
Posted by: KT at May 27, 2017 04:38 PM

My Thanks to you and the others! I wasn't sure. I just bought it because it said it was good for rock gardens.

And because of this thread, I know that vine in the backyard is clematis. It was twisted all over itself in a pot with a little trellis in the clearance area of Home Depot last year. I wanted the trellis, and it was less than $2. It's not a raving beauty, but this year it had another branch, so maybe someday!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 27, 2017 09:22 PM (G8B7r)

135 "I hope that these prescribing recommendations are not coming from rigidity based in old study designs. It's good to have efficacy shown in a double-blind study. Not so nice to say that dosing limitations in original study designs should roll back years of apparently safe and effective use."

yeah, I'm no chemist, or biochemist ... but it does seem some things are pushed to market based on revenue streams for the corporation, more than efficacy and proven history. "Namenda" was another drug a doc recommended for my Mom, and it was expensive but doc said sure it will help. Then a biochem research site (mentioned here on AoS iirc, I lost the link) said it was pushed to market with little research.

Same story with another drug a doc pushed on my uncle after asking me if he could afford to spend the money. Never seemed to help, despite promises. $500 per pill. Marketing is the thing.

There is real science ... great stuff. But corruption and marketers seem to i