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Don't Trust The Dow As An Indicator: Diversification Is Your Friend!

Almost very financial report on radio or TV features a breathless recitation of the state of the Dow Jones Industrial Index as if it were the gold standard of measurements of the state of the economy.

But as any statistician will tell you, using only 30 companies to gauge the state of a group of almost 4,000 publicly held companies that trade stock is a recipe for some odd fluctuations that do not reflect reality. Add to that the fact that the Dow is not randomly selected, and that only a tortured definition of "industrial' would allow inclusion of American Express or Walt Disney, and you get a warped picture of the economy.

A better measure is the S&P 500, or the Russell 2000, or the Wilshire 5000.

The S&P 500 is a group of the largest companies in the country, the Russell 2000 is the bottom 2,000 companies in the Russell 3000, and the Wilshire 5000 is pretty much every company publicly traded in America.

Here's a five year graph showing the S&P 500 and the Dow...

spvsdow.jpg

And here is one showing the Dow vs. the Wilshire 5000 (a fund that reflects it), because it's a better comparison, which was suggested by commenter Hopped Up On Something.

dow wilshire.jpg

With only 30 components, any sharp movement caused by any number of things can move the Dow in ways that do not reflect the economy as a whole. Just imagine an iPhone battery problem or a Chevron oil refinery fire or a trading scandal at Goldman Sachs and you can see how easily a catastrophe for one company in the Dow can skew it significantly, when the larger economy shrugs it off as a nothing-burger.

Unfortunately the best measure of the economy, internet pron site hits, is not yet available.

Posted by: CBD at 11:30 AM




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1 I was told there would be no math.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at April 21, 2017 11:22 AM (ukNFU)

2 Top 10

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 11:23 AM (Nwg0u)

3 th!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 11:24 AM (jjaLl)

4 Corgis called.

Posted by: Lord Chancellor johnd01 at April 21, 2017 11:24 AM (ukNFU)

5 DOH!!!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 11:24 AM (jjaLl)

6 I invest in Ammo. it'll be the new currency.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 11:24 AM (xGZ+b)

7 Gold, Jerry! Gold!

Posted by: Glen Beck at April 21, 2017 11:24 AM (bc2Lc)

8 Wall Street LOVED any company with ".com" in its name back in 1992. That turned out to be fools gold for a lot of those startups.

Same with a large telecom that had to adjust the way it was showing certain capital charges...they had to change their quarter end balance sheet and move some things to the following quarter. No net change, but the stock took a dip nonetheless.

The stock market indices are good indicators for investors...but not much else.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 21, 2017 11:25 AM (tVWQB)

9 Invest in the ZagerEvans 2525

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 21, 2017 11:25 AM (IqV8l)

10 Hey! Something I know enough about to lose money on!!

Whaddaya all wanna know before I hit the hay??

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:25 AM (Jcg9Q)

11 One word: Plastics.

Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (97XyN)

12 DOOM!

Posted by: tbodie at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (zsMTB)

13 I invest in Ammo. it'll be the new currency.
Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 11:24 AM (xGZ+b)

-----


So. How many 45 ACPs will you give me for my extra driven well kit??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (8XRCm)

14 The other thing they do is attribute daily moves of the index to whatever is happening politically. Sometimes there is a link, but more often there is not.

Posted by: Thatch at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (CWGHX)

15
One word: Plastics.

Oh baby, now you're such a drag.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (IqV8l)

16 Mid Cap mutual funds have seemed to have had the best results over the long term. Of course that was because it was not one of my 401k selections.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 11:27 AM (X8p7j)

17 Oh and not only that but top ten, and in before Grump928 and the Scorpion!!!

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:27 AM (Jcg9Q)

18 You go from French prostitute to math? What ARE you smoking?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at April 21, 2017 11:27 AM (LAFih)

19 Ammo booze and little blue pills.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2017 11:28 AM (mBL57)

20 Sometimes there is a link, but more often there is not.

Posted by: Thatch at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (CWGHX)

That's a good point. Especially since political events elicit hysterical reactions that in retrospect are embarrassingly stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:28 AM (rF0hx)

21 Pffft.

BEANIE BABIES!!!

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2017 11:28 AM (8b+oT)

22 I used to have some shares in an S&P index fund... SPDR? something like that. It did better overall while I had it than the mutual funds I was watching, plus I figured if the entirety of the S&P tanked I'd have bigger problems finding gum wrappers to lick for sustenance under a highway overpass than worrying about investments.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 21, 2017 11:28 AM (8nWyX)

23 SSBN 656! Old Bubbleheads surfacing.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 11:29 AM (xGZ+b)

24 I've got all my retirement money tied up in Limited Edition "Girls" DVD box sets and Nasty Woman Collectibles. I got in on the ground floor, so I'm pretty sure I don't need to know what's going on with this "stock market" stuff......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 11:29 AM (jjaLl)

25
A better measure is the SP 500, or the Russell 2000, or the Wilshire 5000.


Or the Indianapolis 500, or Windows 2000.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 21, 2017 11:29 AM (oVJmc)

26 I invest in futures. Right now, I'm bullish on companies HQ'd on Proxima Centauri system 3 millennia from now. WINNING!

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:29 AM (gbWkA)

27 Which line is the Dow and which is the S&P 500?

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2017 11:29 AM (xjiRE)

28
Pffft.

BEANIE BABIES!!!


Rusty gas station signs!

Posted by: American Pickers at April 21, 2017 11:30 AM (IqV8l)

29 The Dow is flawed in another important way. It's based on an average of the stock prices of its 30 companies, so that companies with high share prices exert more influence.

e.g., Goldman Sachs, the highest priced stock in the Dow, currently at about $245 a share, has accounted for more than a quarter of the change in the Dow since November's US presidential election.а

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 21, 2017 11:30 AM (SIY7D)

30 Hmm. They tracked pretty close until '13 or so. Interesting...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (9krrF)

31 If the Dow is up, and there's a Democrat President? Happy days are here again!

If the President is a Republican: doesn't mean anything-- maybe some fatcats are doing okay, but you all are boned.

If the Dow is down and there's a Democrat President? Pay no attention, look at all these great numbers we made up.

Republican President, though? DOOM DOOM DOOMITY DOOOOOOM MONTY IS AN OPTIMIST DOOM

Posted by: The Media at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (u0s1P)

32 I used to have some shares in an S&P index fund... SPDR?

----

Ecxhange traded fund. ETF.

Much more flexible than a mutual fund. The fee structure is significantly lower. You can buy or sell in the trading day whereas mutual funds are recaluclated at the end of the day.You can even trade options on ETFS.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (8XRCm)

33 Economics makes my head hurt like a Gumby.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (X6fMO)

34 I'm long on VTI and VXUS.

Posted by: The Deplorable Mr. Trumpkin at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (wwd4n)

35
28
Pffft.

BEANIE BABIES!!!

Rusty gas station signs!

Posted by: American Pickers at April 21, 2017 11:30 AM (IqV8l)







Baseball Cards!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (XWkhW)

36 The Dow only matters iif it is going well during a Democrat presidency or badly during a Republican one.

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (r/0kC)

37 *Especially since political events elicit hysterical reactions that in retrospect are embarrassingly stupid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:28 AM (rF0hx)*

And yet we never learn.

Rinse & Repeat.

Posted by: tbodie at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (QFqpA)

38 Which line is the Dow and which is the SP 500?

Posted by: rickl at April 21, 2017 11:29 AM (xjiRE)

SP is blue, and the Dow is yellow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (rF0hx)

39 Not to pick nits but although I agree with you in theory that 5 year graph shows a pretty good correlation between the two.
I'd rather see the Wilshire vs the Dow to agree with you more.
I want some solid insider info to love you.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 21, 2017 11:32 AM (fo0go)

40 I invest in Ammo. it'll be the new currency.



Brass. Lead. Copper.
And silver.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:32 AM (vZ0KM)

41 GODSAIDMANSAID.COM

Posted by: OregonMuse, deplorable since 2004 at April 21, 2017 11:32 AM (LMvQ5)

42 Ecxhange traded fund. ETF.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:31 AM (8XRCm)


Yes, that, thank you. It's been a while. All my stuff is in TIAA-CREF now, haven't been personally in the market for a while.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 21, 2017 11:33 AM (8nWyX)

43 I'm long on VTI and VXUS.




Go long on betamax over vhs!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:33 AM (vZ0KM)

44 Cattle futures you plebes!

Posted by: Hillary at April 21, 2017 11:33 AM (X8p7j)

45 Unfortunately the best measure of the economy, internet pron site hits, is not yet available.

Yes. But would they be cyclical or counter-cyclical in nature?

A booming economy would have people outside - shopping, dining, traveling. Not surfin' PornHub.

PornHub btw is among the Top 40 sites for internet traffic. Not sure of their historical position, but they're killing the legitimate and ppv pron industry recently.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 11:34 AM (HTdUD)

46 And as if right on cue, ZH reports that starting yesterday not only are there ETF's, but there is now an ETF ETF which will seek to profit from those companies involved in making money from ETF's.

TETF

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:34 AM (Jcg9Q)

47 BEANIE BABIES!!!

Heh. I was going through a bunch of my old stuff and I found the few Beanie Babies I got-- they were all what I consider the "fun" animals that rarely got the plush treatment-- the bat, the penguin, the crab, the anteater...

Good times.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at April 21, 2017 11:34 AM (u0s1P)

48 I also invest in Betamax VCR's THEY'RE THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!!

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:35 AM (gbWkA)

49 Yep, this is what my husband tells me over and over. Always look to the S&P.

Posted by: deplorable Jewells45 at April 21, 2017 11:35 AM (zRZaJ)

50 >>>And as if right on cue, ZH reports that starting yesterday not only are
there ETF's, but there is now an ETF ETF which will seek to profit from
those companies involved in making money from ETF's.

TETF



WTF????



LOL!!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 11:35 AM (jjaLl)

51 Yachts and polo ponies

Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 11:35 AM (X8p7j)

52 @39
Exactly. The graph kind of refutes the article. The absolute values of the two indices have diverged, but the pattern of movement not so much. So from any given point at which you buy in, it seems that you will (per the graph) experience very similar outcomes as between the two.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 21, 2017 11:35 AM (QtQaN)

53 Looks like her landing strip is beginning to blossom.

Posted by: Fritz at April 21, 2017 11:36 AM (2Mnv1)

54 I'm leveraged towards the Gwyneth Paltrow collection. Solid gold dildos and jade coochie eggs are the way to go. That and WNBA rookie cards.

Posted by: tu3031 at April 21, 2017 11:36 AM (qJhUV)

55 go long !! I'm sorry, what was the question ?

Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 11:36 AM (c6/9Q)

56 And as if right on cue, ZH reports that starting yesterday not only are
there ETF's, but there is now an ETF ETF which will seek to profit from
those companies involved in making money from ETF's.

TETF



WTF????



LOL!!!




OMG!

NFW!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:36 AM (vZ0KM)

57 They should call it "Standard and Rich" instead!

Amirte?

Tough crowd here.

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 11:37 AM (7HtZB)

58 Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (8XRCm) - extra driven well kit? Hadn't thought about it. I have water purification gear...I'm deep embedded in enemy territory of Kalifornica...so the ammo is too valuable.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 11:37 AM (xGZ+b)

59 I'm heavily invested in an alpaca farm. Can't lose!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 21, 2017 11:37 AM (kTF2Z)

60 Not to pick nits but although I agree with you in theory that 5 year graph shows a pretty good correlation between the two.

I'd rather see the Wilshire vs the Dow to agree with you more.

I want some solid insider info to love you.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 21, 2017 11:32 AM (fo0go)

Picking nits is sort of what we do here!

The Dow and the SP are going to track roughly the same over long periods, especially because they change the Dow components occasionally. But for short term stuff the Dow simply isn't as accurate.

And of course you are correct, that would be much better. Where the fvck were you when I was writing this?



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:37 AM (rF0hx)

61 The market will never recover if Trump is elected.

Posted by: Paul Kruger at April 21, 2017 11:37 AM (ZO497)

62 I thought the Ministry of Plenty raised the chocolate quota this quarter......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 21, 2017 11:38 AM (5VlCp)

63 Actually, what ever I invest in ends up in the crapper. I'm like a 180 degree compass.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:38 AM (gbWkA)

64 I'm heavily invested in an alpaca farm. Can't lose!
Posted by: Duke Lowell



How well do they grill up?
Thinking on going the guinea pig route.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:38 AM (vZ0KM)

65 I started a Roth this year to supplement my anemic 401K. I think the TIAA/CREF non profit folks go out of their way to make sure they are helping struggling companies instead of growing too much. But the bank investment dude pushes portfolios with a bunch of bonds for 'moderate risk' funds. I went with the agressive package to get more plain stock percent because my visceral reaction to the word bonds is "cities about to face a pension crisis" + "the GM folks that got screwed by Barky"

Posted by: PaleRider at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (8qFZP)

66 Unfortunately the best measure of the economy, internet pron site hits, is not yet available.

Ahh, the indispensable FAP 24/7 index. It measures the number of government workers currently surfing porn on the taxpayers' dime. So we want a low FAP number.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Gluten Free Souls at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (a3sfz)

67 ZH tends to be alarmist, i think - OIL IS DROPPING !!!!111 that sort of thing

Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (c6/9Q)

68 I'm like a 180 degree compass.
Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:38 AM (gbWkA)


*ears perk up*

Posted by: Cate Blanchett at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (8nWyX)

69 Once a month I fill Matthew's desk drawers with candy. Whatever candy he likes, I invest in that company.

Posted by: Jimmy James at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (7HtZB)

70 21
BEANIE BABIES!!!
Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2017 11:28 AM (8b+oT)
-----------------------------
My kids looooooved those things.
And you know what they did with them? They played with 'em in the rain and the snow and the mud and, worse yet, in the dust and grime inside our house.

Meanwhile, there were the kids that kept the critters in pristine storage. Heh.

I think my kids got the better deal.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (0jtPF)

71 I track 12 month average Federal gross tax receipts, very good indicator.

Not doing to well right now.

At my Disqus page.

http://tinyurl.com/lda5zgs

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (LQ1Q3)

72 What's in your safe?

Posted by: William DeVane at April 21, 2017 11:40 AM (kTF2Z)

73 And of course you are correct, that would be much better. Where the fvck were you when I was writing this?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


PornHub

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 21, 2017 11:41 AM (fo0go)

74 In the long run we're all dead.

Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at April 21, 2017 11:41 AM (QtQaN)

75 ZH tends to be alarmist, i think - OIL IS DROPPING !!!!111 that sort of thing




What is Motley Fool saying?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:41 AM (vZ0KM)

76 Dude, I don't know crap about handling money and I know to diversify.

Is it the evilly named SPDR fund that's everything on the S ampersand P?

Presume rant here about how my parents did everything right financially and now at nearly 80 they've been forced back into the market to chase returns due to freaking ZIRP.


Oh oh oh since I believe that sharing is caring, let me share with the Horde.

Yesterday I had to go to Vital Records to pick up several birth certificates and marriage licenses that we needed for an estate. Young couple came in while I was there and asked for a marriage license. Clerk looked up their birth certificates to confirm age and asked the girl for her birthday. She was born in January, 1999.

Which means that she's 18.

*curls up into a ball on the lawn you need to get off of*

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (mf5HN)

77 Brass. Lead. Copper.

And silver.

Posted by: rickb223
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How's the cheaper bulk steel case .223 for an AR?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (8b+oT)

78 Correllary: He who kicks leaving the most debt wins.

Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (QtQaN)

79 ZH tends to be alarmist, i think - OIL IS DROPPING !!!!111 that sort of thing


Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (c6/9Q)

At times yes, but the article just explains the new ETF without saying the world is gonna end tomorrow.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (Jcg9Q)

80 I use Pork Bellies as a gauge.



If she let's me see her belly, times are good.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (jsWA8)

81 Eh. I went long on Chelsea Clinton Beauty Supplies.

Spare some change?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 21, 2017 11:43 AM (oVJmc)

82 On the suggestion of "Hopped Up On Something" I added another graph.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:43 AM (rF0hx)

83 I had a fortune (I think, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it) in baseball cards, but then I went off to college and my Mom tossed them all in the trash. She also, converted my room into a study. Was there a message there?

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:43 AM (gbWkA)

84 I track 12 month average Federal gross tax receipts, very good indicator.

Not doing to well right now.

At my Disqus page.

http://tinyurl.com/lda5zgs

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (LQ1Q3)

I also follow the put/call ratio, which has been a bit elevated lately and in fact today is over 1.0, which would typically indicate bearish sentiment.

Maybe if everybody's bearish, the markets are gonna take off again.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:44 AM (Jcg9Q)

85 She was born in January, 1999.

Which means that she's 18.


Just the right age to be a lady in waiting, Imperial One. One who is devoted to her empress and is ready at any time to truly prove her loyalty.

Missed opportunity, I'd say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 11:45 AM (X6fMO)

86 What is Motley Fool saying?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:41 AM (vZ0KM)

energy stocks on a tear !

Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 11:45 AM (c6/9Q)

87 The thread is about the economy, and tools used to trace the state of the economy, nonetheless, here is a link to a chart for QQQ Powershares, which reflect the NASDAQ. Note the baseline is 60.
https://finance.yahoo.com/chart

I'm not shilling for the fund, just commenting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 11:45 AM (ZO497)

88 63 Actually, what ever I invest in ends up in the crapper. I'm like a 180 degree compass.
Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:38 AM (gbWkA)
----------------------------------
Now, see, if that were true, we could make a fortune off you.
But the minute we count on you to be wrong, you'll be right ---which would be wrong.

It's like my sense of direction. I always go the wrong way, unless people are counting on me as a reverse compass. Then I miraculously am right --- which is wrong.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 21, 2017 11:45 AM (0jtPF)

89 How's the cheaper bulk steel case .223 for an AR?



What's the desired outcome?
1k yard Camp Perry match, or hog busting at

Hog busting is fine.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:45 AM (vZ0KM)

90 In the long run we're all dead.
Posted by: John Maynard Keynes at April 21, 2017 11:41 AM (QtQaN)


In fairness to Keynes, his point was that employment levels may rise back to equilibrium "in the long run", but the problem for policy-makers is all the pissed off unemployed workers in the meanwhile who start thinking, "hey, that communist rabble-rouser on the street corner may have a point..."

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (Tnhbr)

91 CBD

take a look at my Disqus link in my previous post.

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (LQ1Q3)

92 My Lena Dunham's Ham Sammich franchise went belly up.

Posted by: Fearless Girl Statue at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (bc2Lc)

93 What irritates me is the "financial news" that tells you how many points an index moved when I want to know the percentage move. I hate doing math in my head. And is it any wonder the country is financially illiterate.

Bought some basketball cards in 1986 and 1987. Apparently somebody who likes cardboard is willing to pay a lot for them. I need some Redbreast Irish Whiskey. Real bad. Profit. Best random, impulse investment in my life. Seriously.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (hKi6n)

94 In the long run we're all dead.
Posted by: John Maynard Keynes
----------

How about a spoiler alert next time?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 11:47 AM (ZO497)

95 Yesterday I had to go to Vital Records

Home of the Hits!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 21, 2017 11:47 AM (oVJmc)

96 What irritates me is the "financial news" that tells you how many points an index moved when I want to know the percentage move. I hate doing math in my head. And is it any wonder the country is financially illiterate.

100 basis points = 1%

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 21, 2017 11:47 AM (Tnhbr)

97 What's the desired outcome?

Posted by: rickb223
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Keeping vermin at bay. I guess the cheap stuff'll do! Danke!

Posted by: Dang at April 21, 2017 11:48 AM (8b+oT)

98 I track 12 month average Federal gross tax receipts, very good indicator.

Not doing to well right now.

At my Disqus page.

http://tinyurl.com/lda5zgs

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (LQ1Q3)

I also follow the put/call ratio, which has been a bit elevated lately and in fact today is over 1.0, which would typically indicate bearish sentiment.

Maybe if everybody's bearish, the markets are gonna take off again.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:44 AM (Jcg9Q)

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Add the VIN and VIX to your toolbox too.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:48 AM (8XRCm)

99 At times yes, but the article just explains the new ETF without saying the world is gonna end tomorrow.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (Jcg9Q)

no doubt, they do have some interesting stuff

Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 11:48 AM (c6/9Q)

100 Stanley Ipkiss recommended that I move my cash into Peruvia T-bills and the mattress out back, but mostly the mattress out back.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at April 21, 2017 11:49 AM (LAFih)

101 I hear Don Juan's gas masks and iodine pills to cure radiation sickness are selling big in SanFran and LA.
Ya gotta love capitalism.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2017 11:49 AM (0tfLf)

102 The Dow has always been the tool of the MFM and it has always been useless.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 11:49 AM (mpXpK)

103 Ball Bearings! It's all ball bearings now!

Posted by: Fletch at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (hJn/J)

104 If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. Milton Friedman.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (gbWkA)

105

One word Ben: Plastics

Posted by: Mr. Robinson at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (ZO497)

106 ACME.

Posted by: Chuck Jones Industrial Average company at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (n8Jnc)

107 If you like grilled cheese sandwiches, y'all could invest in a guy with a grilled cheese truck.

GRLD

No I'm not kidding.

His high price was the day he went public, and it's been all downhill from there.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (Jcg9Q)

108 Can't lose with the partnership I set up with a Nigerian prince.
Easy money!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2017 11:51 AM (0tfLf)

109 I invest in Islam.



I'm making a killing!

Posted by: Satan at April 21, 2017 11:52 AM (sWK70)

110 Add the VIN and VIX to your toolbox too.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:48 AM (8XRCm)

Got it.

GRLD currently trading at 40 cents. Go for it!!

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:52 AM (Jcg9Q)

111 The best way to invest is to find a solid blue chip stock and buy and hold it for long term.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 11:52 AM (mpXpK)

112 Ball Bearings! It's all ball bearings now!
Posted by: Fletch at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (hJn/J)


Yeah, about that...

Posted by: Schweinfurt at April 21, 2017 11:53 AM (8nWyX)

113 take a look at my Disqus link in my previous post.

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (LQ1Q3)

Hmmm....

I simply don't know what to think.

Interesting though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:53 AM (rF0hx)

114 Buy silver dimes!
Posted by: Luap Nor

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:53 AM (vZ0KM)

115 The daily time-on-site at PornHub (ranked #22 in the US) is down 7.00% to 9:01 min. and the page-views is down 17.52% to 6.59 according to Alexa... Time to sell?

Posted by: Zettai Ryoiki at April 21, 2017 11:54 AM (kP16F)

116 Can't lose with the partnership I set up with a Nigerian prince.
Easy money!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 21, 2017 11:51 AM (0tfLf)

Some Nigerian apartment was raided last week and was found to have $43 million in neatly wrapped bricks of $100 bills. So somebody knows what they're doing.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:54 AM (Jcg9Q)

117 The markets have been totally based on fraud for almost a decade now - at least since the 2008 bailouts. Using the markets as an indicator of anything (besides how royally f'd we all are) is silly.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 11:54 AM (UBzPO)

118 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 11:55 AM (GwIKd)

119 Hemp futures?

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at April 21, 2017 11:55 AM (jAZR9)

120 100 basis points = 1%

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 21, 2017 11:47 AM (Tnhbr)

That only works for Treasuries, bonds, etc.

100 points on the Dow these days isn't even half a percent.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (Jcg9Q)

121 Investing in the opposite of what I've done has historically outperformed the market.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (xfb67)

122
I use Pork Bellies as a gauge.


Posted by: CSMBigBird at April 21, 2017 11:42 AM (jsWA

Pffft. We'll take frozen orange juice concentrate.
Just as soon as we get our hands on that crop report.

Posted by: The Duke Brothers at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (GUBah)

123 How much of this value is Fed monopoly money?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (oVJmc)

124 When do we reach Peak Fools?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (QtQaN)

125 Frozen concentrated orange juice!

Posted by: Mortimer & Randolph Duke at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (7HtZB)

126 I'm slightly disturbed - but never mind that. I am concerned that usage statistics are so readily available here about pornhub.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (gbWkA)

127 No math!


I was told no math!!!!

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 11:56 AM (GwIKd)

128 Turn those machines back on!

Posted by: Mortimer & Randolph Duke at April 21, 2017 11:57 AM (7HtZB)

129 Ball Bearings! It's all ball bearings now!




Go long on fur oil.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 11:58 AM (vZ0KM)

130 I feel triggered.

Posted by: Penny Stock at April 21, 2017 11:58 AM (QtQaN)

131
Yo!

Posted by: Yo!
_________________________

Hey!

Posted by: Hey! at April 21, 2017 11:59 AM (HSmrB)

132 Dammit, you leaked the secret about the idiot index that only idiots follow. Your keycard access to the 1% lounge has been revoked.

Posted by: Lurking Moron at April 21, 2017 11:59 AM (1L9V9)

133 I feel stepped on.

Posted by: Penny Lane at April 21, 2017 11:59 AM (gbWkA)

134 Yo!

Posted by: Yo!
_________________________

Hey!
Posted by: Hey!




Damn!

Posted by: Damn at April 21, 2017 12:00 PM (vZ0KM)

135 Who needs internet pron when you have Debauchery Week art threads at the AoSHQ?

In other news, the youngest bell now has his learner's permit. Those of you who live on the eastern seaboard, you have been warned.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:00 PM (sBOL1)

136 113 take a look at my Disqus link in my previous post.

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (LQ1Q3)

Hmmm....

I simply don't know what to think.

Interesting though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 11:53 AM (rF0hx)

--------

You can go on my other posts there about Obama's economic destruction. My gut feeling is that Trump regulatory and tax changes will put us back on track

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 12:01 PM (LQ1Q3)

137 If you like grilled cheese sandwiches, y'all could invest in a guy with a grilled cheese truck.
GRLD
No I'm not kidding.
His high price was the day he went public, and it's been all downhill from there.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 11:50 AM (Jcg9Q)

Yup....another good idea would be to get that head gook, Kim Dong-Un, to open North Korea style eateries in places like New York and L.A.

Bark, sawdust and grass would go over well with the libturds who inhabit those places and the atmosphere could be modeled after one of the Nork's labor camps, with propaganda blasting over a loudspeaker and the wait staff yelling like sadistic prison guards at the customer.

We could call it "Kim's House of Plenty" and our slogan would be "Come Hungry-Leave Hungry!".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 21, 2017 12:01 PM (5VlCp)

138 1937 - Go Diesel Young Man!
2017 - Diesel Kills!

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:01 PM (A/Djk)

139 Off yesterday's sock

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:01 PM (Fmupd)

140 I feel dreadful !

Posted by: Penny dreadful at April 21, 2017 12:01 PM (c6/9Q)

141 I feel stepped on.
Posted by: Penny Lane



Thanks to the debauched art thread, I read that as "strapped on"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:02 PM (vZ0KM)

142 Ronco! It's all ronco! Knives, fishing poles, veg-o-matic.
Bass-o-matic

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:02 PM (gbWkA)

143
I feel stepped on.
Posted by: Penny Lane at April 21, 2017 11:59 AM (gbWkA)


Quit whining

Posted by: Penny Arcade at April 21, 2017 12:02 PM (lKyWE)

144 The news has been pumping out that federal gross tax receipts were the highest they have ever been. But we were still running a $1T deficit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:02 PM (mpXpK)

145 Penny?
Penny?
Penny?

Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper at April 21, 2017 12:02 PM (7HtZB)

146 Doh, wrong thread.

Posted by: Pound Foolish at April 21, 2017 12:02 PM (PFy0L)

147 BTW - There seems to be an uptick in the number of "food truck businesses" being sold around here.
Passing fads will pass....

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (A/Djk)

148 My gut feeling is that Trump regulatory and tax changes will put us back on track

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 12:01 PM (LQ1Q3)

Agreed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (rF0hx)

149 Ronco! It's all ronco! Knives, fishing poles, veg-o-matic.
Bass-o-matic
Posted by: Strobe



Slap chop. You'll love my nuts.
Posted by: Vince

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (vZ0KM)

150 67
ZH tends to be alarmist, i think - OIL IS DROPPING !!!!111 that sort of thing


Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 11:39 AM (c6/9Q)

Yes they are but for very good reason. Every pension plan and retirement account in the country is way over-exposed to the market now. A 30% correction (which we're overdue for) and several states won't be able to hide their bankrupt status any more. Things are much worse now than they were in 2008.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (UBzPO)

151 Which reminds me - I need to go buy a new Sham Wow.

Posted by: Witchdoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (PFy0L)

152 58 Posted by: fixerupper at April 21, 2017 11:26 AM (8XRCm) - extra driven well kit? Hadn't thought about it. I have water purification gear...I'm deep embedded in enemy territory of Kalifornica...so the ammo is too valuable.
Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 11:37 AM (xGZ+b)




What part? Sacramento area here.

Honestly? Watching the Left go unhinged out here over The Donald is actually giving me lots of real hope, for real change.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (ujg0T)

153 So what the fuck is E F Hutton talking about now?

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (GwIKd)

154 Tulips!

Posted by: A Dike at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (ZO497)

155 I suggest a Fully Capital-Selected Zero Deposit SPDR.

A FC-SZD SPDR, if you will.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (9krrF)

156 A 30% correction (which we're overdue for) and several states won't be able to hide their bankrupt status any more.


Challenge accepted

Posted by: Illinois Pension funds at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (A/Djk)

157 147 BTW - There seems to be an uptick in the number of "food truck businesses" being sold around here.
Passing fads will pass....
Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (A/Djk)

The margins on food trucks are very very thin.

Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (X8p7j)

158 111
The best way to invest is to find a solid blue chip stock and buy and hold it for long term.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 11:52 AM (mpXpK)

Ditto.I have a set amount of funds each month and buy a stock with it. Build up the holdings on that stock until it gets to where I want it, then go find another stock.In terms of picking stocks - I go with ones I know. Plus I always look for ones that pay dividends. And I reinvest those dividends.Pick a dollar amount you are comfortable with and have it automatically withdrawn from an account. This way you don't feel it.As Vic said - this is a long term investment. Doesn't matter if you only have $1,000 invested, $100k, more or less. Do what you are comfortable with.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 21, 2017 12:05 PM (jxbfJ)

159 Ronco! It's all ronco! Knives, fishing poles, veg-o-matic.
Bass-o-matic
Posted by: Strobe



Slap chop. You'll love my nuts.
Posted by: Vince
Posted by: rickb223
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You guys are *so* yesterday.

Posted by: Fuller Brush RoboSweep at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (ZO497)

160 153 So what the fuck is E F Hutton talking about now?
Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (GwIKd)

Brainssss

Posted by: Zombie E.F. Hutton at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (7HtZB)

161 Very interesting analysis and graphs. Yes, yes, quite interesting.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (Fmupd)

162 A 30% correction (which we're overdue for) and several states won't be able to hide their bankrupt status any more.


Challenge accepted
Posted by: Illinois Pension funds


Call me?
Posted by: CALPERS

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (vZ0KM)

163 Yes they are but for very good reason. Every pension plan and retirement account in the country is way over-exposed to the market now. A 30% correction (which we're overdue for) and several states won't be able to hide their bankrupt status any more. Things are much worse now than they were in 2008.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (UBzPO)

They've had some really great analysis on various pensions that are or will go bust.

If y'all want to read about one already going bust, read up on the Central States Pension Fund. I think it's a Teamsters fund.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (Jcg9Q)

164 So what the fuck is E F Hutton talking about now?

No idea, I haven't been listening.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (9krrF)

165 157 147 BTW - There seems to be an uptick in the number of "food truck businesses" being sold around here.
Passing fads will pass....
Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (A/Djk)

The margins on food trucks are very very thin.
Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (X8p7j)




What is even more amusing is how the Leftist hipster types who like the gourmet food trucks also say they want more dense hipster innercities, where people will presumably walk or ride unicycles to go about, and the food trucks won't have anywhere to park.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (ujg0T)

166
There seems to be an uptick in the number of "food truck businesses" being sold around here.Passing fads will pass....
Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (A/Djk)


The city here has really cracked down on them because restaurant owners were screaming bloody murder

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (lKyWE)

167 A better index would be one that measures stocks based on activity, if your measuring price.

Posted by: Jean at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (zZb/S)

168 157
147 BTW - There seems to be an uptick in the number of "food truck businesses" being sold around here.

Passing fads will pass....

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (A/Djk)



The margins on food trucks are very very thin.

Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (X8p7j)

Portsmouth, NH (notably hardcore left and very much a NIMBY crowd) has outlawed them. People who recently moved into the new downtown condos are afraid of the noise, parking issues, etc. Yet live across the street from bars and 2 miles from a working National Guard Airbase (which they bitch about regularly as well).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (jxbfJ)

169 Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 21, 2017 12:05 PM (jxbfJ)

May I suggest Walgreens.

Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (X8p7j)

170 Flex-seal. Hair in a can, just watered down a little.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (gbWkA)

171 Ground floor opportunity, buy in now. I'm going public.

Posted by: UnTuckit at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (ZO497)

172 The margins on food trucks are very very thin.
Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (X8p7j)
_________


I always thought it odd that they had to be regularly located somewhere at a regular time in order to keep a customer base. Kinda like, you know,
a restaurant?

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (A/Djk)

173 Since the Russians hack fooking everything, lets go long on Russia

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (GwIKd)

174 One of my high school history teachers told me that it's all about who has the Earl to run the turbans. You go, Earl! Keep those turbans spinnin'!

Posted by: The Pope of Greenwich Village at April 21, 2017 12:08 PM (sWK70)

175 The city here has really cracked down on them because restaurant owners were screaming bloody murder
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic



Move your f'n restaurant outside the club and be open at 2:00 am like the street taco truck is. Tons of competition there.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:09 PM (vZ0KM)

176 Honestly? Watching the Left go unhinged out here over The Donald is actually giving me lots of real hope, for real change.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (ujg0T)

I get occasional updates from a friend in Santa Monica, a rare somewhat conservative.

"Unhinged" is a word she regularly uses. They are in total freakout mode.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:09 PM (Jcg9Q)

177 Off fake rich guy sock!

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 12:09 PM (X8p7j)

178 Since the Russians hack fooking everything, lets go long on Russia
Posted by: Yo!
---------

In fairness, it's hard to loose going long on Vodka.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:10 PM (ZO497)

179 I just tripled my investments!

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at April 21, 2017 12:10 PM (vtcmf)

180 it's hard to loose going long on Vodka.


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'lose', dammit

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:10 PM (ZO497)

181
I always thought it odd that they had to be regularly located somewhere at a regular time in order to keep a customer base. Kinda like, you know, a restaurant?
Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:07 PM (A/Djk)


They were even staking out a piece of sidewalk and setting up tables and chairs

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 12:10 PM (lKyWE)

182 I just tripled my investments!


Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo
_______


Went long on field mice?

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (A/Djk)

183 "Unhinged" is a word she regularly uses. They are in total freakout mode.



And yet, no one can point out one thing he has done that has negatively affected anyone.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (vZ0KM)

184 The DOW moves according to Brownian motion, discovered by Michael Brown, for which he won the Nobel Prize. And he was murdered in cold blood for all his troubles by a white cop.

Posted by: Neil DeGrasse Tyson at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (vRcUp)

185 Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (ujg0T) What part?

Big City close to Mexican Border. Too young to retire, too old to just bail. Only option is to dig in, and hold in place.

Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (xGZ+b)

186 I do feel sorry for all those deluded folks who thought opening a cupcake shop was a good idea to make money.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (gbWkA)

187 Yes they are but for very good reason. Every pension
plan and retirement account in the country is way over-exposed to the
market now. A 30% correction (which we're overdue for) and several
states won't be able to hide their bankrupt status any more. Things are
much worse now than they were in 2008.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 12:03 PM (UBzPO)

I am not worried - The Ark 2.0 is almost finished

Posted by: runner at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (c6/9Q)

188 The headline says "Don't trust the Dow..." and then you show charts that show the Dow, S&P, and Russell indices are all highly correlated. So why not trust the Dow? Seems like fake news.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (QUtQ6)

189 186 I do feel sorry for all those deluded folks who thought opening a cupcake shop was a good idea to make money.
Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (gbWkA)

Sigh. We thought we could deduct the tattoo sleeves as a business expense.

Posted by: Hipster cupcake bakers everywhere at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (7HtZB)

190 163 If y'all want to read about one already going bust, read up on the Central States Pension Fund. I think it's a Teamsters fund.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (Jcg9Q)

And they want the government to bail them out. Piss on them.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (mpXpK)

191 I horde farm land, food, silver, and ammo. We do have some skin in stocks and bonds, but priorities are priorities.

Posted by: colkax mimgo at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (mc8bR)

192 So why not trust the Dow? Seems like fake news.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (QUtQ6)

Because while in the long run it tracks roughly with the other indexes (because it is actively managed and they adjust it!), in the short term it is too volatile because of the reasons I laid out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (rF0hx)

193 I'm investing in embalming fluid and funeral home appliance companies.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (Fmupd)

194 And yet, no one can point out one thing he has done that has negatively affected anyone.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (vZ0KM)

But they FEEL like he's a bad person!!!

She finds it both entertaining and disturbing.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (Jcg9Q)

195 I do feel sorry for all those deluded folks who thought opening a cupcake shop was a good idea to make money.



Nothing Bundt Cake is tearing it up here.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (vZ0KM)

196 "The margins on food trucks are very very thin."
Posted by: Moo Moon at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (X8p7j)


Just had a talk with the cooks at the restaurant to come up with new dessert ideas for the new display case...

Jello.

With whipped cream.

We had bought some glass bowls and plates at IKEA that will present well with some colorful jello. Brings back the patron's youth - like Ratatouille.

$2.95 to $3.50.

Cost: about $.30

Simple. Refreshing. Profitable.

Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (Zs4uk)

197 Every decade has the same "___________ shop" thing happen I think. From the 1990's and cigars to 2010's cupcakes, none of it lasts.

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:14 PM (A/Djk)

198 I get occasional updates from a friend in Santa Monica, a rare somewhat conservative.

"Unhinged" is a word she regularly uses. They are in total freakout mode.
Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:09 PM (Jcg9Q)



I like the habit of understatement. :-)

That said, it is beginning to dawn on even the most luddite of eco-fiends out here that unchecked immigration is despoiling the CA ecosystem they love so much.

And on the flip side, it is dawning on the actual Mexican Americans out here that the eco fiends would be happy to see their hard-won irrigated farms turn into dust bowls. And even if these illegals are vaguely kin, the illegals are overcrowding the public schools, hospitals and other infrastructure upon which the Mexican Americans depend.

If the moribund GOP can exploit the Green vs. Brown rift and go "Citizenist", perhaps there is hope.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:14 PM (ujg0T)

199 Makes sense that all indices mirror each other somewhat as stocks in general all follow the same pattern of buy /sell . Brokers and brokerhouses are lemmings.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 12:14 PM (X8p7j)

200 Simple. Refreshing. Profitable.
Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (Zs4uk)
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Oh c'mon. No one under the age of 80 is going to order jello in a restaurant.

Unless you are situated next to a Lutheran church, and you put shredded carrots and celery in it.

Even then.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:15 PM (sBOL1)

201 I think it's a Teamsters fund.


Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:06 PM (Jcg9Q)

Hah Hah Hah!

That's one of the reasons those idiots struck UPS in 1997. UPS wanted to take over the pensions of the UPSers who were in the teamster fund. Because even 20 years ago it was obvious what was going to happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (rF0hx)

202
Muffin tops!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (ZO497)

203 188 The headline says "Don't trust the Dow..." and then you show charts that show the Dow, S&P, and Russell indices are all highly correlated. So why not trust the Dow? Seems like fake news.
Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (QUtQ6)


---------------


That's exactly what I thought. The ups and downs are identical. Maybe this is just blog filler until Ace rolls around.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (Fmupd)

204 This comment from one of Mish Shedlock's recent blogs sums up my feelings exactly, so I'm stealing it:

"I think Trump assumed (making an -ss out of you and me) that government spending and the underlying tax base that supports said spending were more or less in line because that is how things were in the past.

But the scammer and con-artist Obama destroyed Uncle Sams balance sheet. Debt more than doubled, while base spending levels are completely out of whack with what the tax base can support (never mind whether the rich/poor should pay more or less - the combined amount is too high).

Uncle Sam must slash spending just to be viable, and of course, every two bit hustler (aka Congress) thinks those cuts should come from the other guy.The politics of dividing a growing pie was yester-year.

Now we have the politics of a pie where 120% of the growth has already been allocated to debt service and empty promises.

G20 politics (in the USA and in Europe and in Japan) is now about fighting over which promises get reneged upon first.

I havent heard anyone admit this, and Trump seems to have been unaware of the severity before arriving in DC. The folks in DC (both parties) remain in denial.

Bernie Sanders national socialist party (which is shortened as "nazi" in German) seems to be gaining momentum. That is disturbing"

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (UBzPO)

205 Now they have mobile Lularoe legging truck boutiques popping up, there's another fad soon to be gone.

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (A/Djk)

206 Big City close to Mexican Border. Too young to retire, too old to just bail. Only option is to dig in, and hold in place.
Posted by: USMC8541 One Shot to Slay them All at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (xGZ+b)




Going through Camp Pendleton may have been hell, but it's a hell with nice weather. :-)

In a state that otherwise closed up most of its military bases post-Cold War, San Diego remains and will remain a military city.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (ujg0T)

207 The biggest weighting in the Dow 30 is Goldman Sachs at 7.3% so a huge move in that stock, say 10% would only change the index by 0.73%. Your thesis fails.

The 500 stocks in the S&P are not 500 uncorrelated stocks but rather all of the banks in the S&P are highly correlated as are autos, homebuilders etc. So the 500 stocks are not a diversified index at all. Not really much more diversified than the Dow when you consider all of the redundant and overlapping stocks/sectors. That's why your charts actually show the Dow, S&P, and Russell are all highly correlated unlike your headline suggests.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:17 PM (QUtQ6)

208 Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2017 12:13 PM (Zs4uk)

You ain't selling that out of a food truck because no one would buy it. Best profit margin for a restaurant as I assume you know as an owner , is Iced tea.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 12:18 PM (X8p7j)

209 All restaurants and food service businesses are low margin. Restaurants don't make their money on food. They make it on booze.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:18 PM (mpXpK)

210 I'm in the money. I'm in the money. Everybody sing along!

Posted by: Mr. Foo Foo at April 21, 2017 12:18 PM (vtcmf)

211 If the moribund GOP can exploit the Green vs. Brown rift and go "Citizenist", perhaps there is hope.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:14 PM (ujg0T)


Ann Coulter has a story up on this very subject.

Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at April 21, 2017 12:18 PM (n8Jnc)

212 One storm cloud I can see for Trump is I do believe the stock market is in like a late 90's over exuberance and there will be a big correction. Especially if interest rates normalize.

I could be wrong, but if you look at historical trends like the Schiller P/E ratio, the average multiples look sky high to me.

If at some point we get back to "normal" interest rates, I would gladly take a 5% risk free rate of return and leave the stock market for a while. I tend to think a lot of people will do the same.

Posted by: Maritime at April 21, 2017 12:20 PM (Hhr8o)

213 Don't Trust The Dow As An Indicator: Diversification Is Your Friend!

Yes! You American kufr need to embrace diversity!

For instance, if Rolex hires me as chief scientist in charge of R&D, be sure to buy plenty of put options.

Posted by: Clock boy at April 21, 2017 12:20 PM (vRcUp)

214 Going through Camp Pendleton may have been hell, but it's a hell with nice weather. :-)
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*ponders PI, in August*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:20 PM (ZO497)

215 Unfortunately the best measure of the economy, internet pron site hits, is not yet available.

What about the Mid-morning art thread? If the Walls of Shame are numbateable, surely the hits could be.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 21, 2017 12:21 PM (DMUuz)

216 "Oh c'mon. No one under the age of 80 is going to order jello in a restaurant."
Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:15 PM (sBOL1)


It's so retro and nerd that it's hip and in.

I'm convinced it will bring the first Michelin star. Pretentious liberals will write rave reviews, convinced they can detect subtle hints of rosemary and truffles in the lime jello.

You've got to know your customers.

Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2017 12:21 PM (Zs4uk)

217 I own a lot of the Schwab 1000 index. Low expense ratio at .29

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2017 12:21 PM (M+Lyo)

218 For instance, if Rolex hires me as chief scientist in charge of R&D, be sure to buy plenty of put options.
Posted by: Clock boy
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Why...that would be like electing that Obama guy President. Crazy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:21 PM (ZO497)

219 I heard the new Hearthcare law (Trumpcare) punishes gays and Lesbians and also makes it more expensive for all people that voted for Hilllary. Trump lied and Healthcare died !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (WmgTn)

220 Ann Coulter has a story up on this very subject.
Posted by: cicero Kaboom! kid at April 21, 2017 12:18 PM (n8Jnc)




Yep, read it.

I am sort of torn on this issue. Illegal aliens and even excessive *legal* immigration is kiling this state.

On the other hand, I loathe the eco-fiends, who get goo-goo over "wild and scenic rivers" and are all too happy to watch farms turn into dust bowls. Between a lily white eco-fiend and a Hispanic farmworker, I go with the latter.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (ujg0T)

221 Oh c'mon. No one under the age of 80 is going to order jello in a restaurant.

Posted by: bluebell


I don't think he's in it for the money.

My personal theory is it's a front organization for human trafficking. On the second story of his restaurant is a whore house. Hopefully, the f_ckin' overhead doesn't annoy the diners below.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (HTdUD)

222

Dow makes a helluva bathroom cleaner. Scrubbing bubbles FTW.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (9zO9Q)

223 Maybe this is just blog filler until Ace rolls around.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (Fmupd)

Sigh....

Thanks for the input.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (rF0hx)

224 "Oh c'mon. No one under the age of 80 is going to order jello in a restaurant."
Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:15 PM (sBOL1)


It's so retro and nerd that it's hip and in.

I'm convinced it will bring the first Michelin star. Pretentious liberals will write rave reviews, convinced they can detect subtle hints of rosemary and truffles in the lime jello.

You've got to know your customers.

Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2017 12:21 PM (Zs4uk)

It must be called Parfait, you cannot say Jello

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (M+Lyo)

225 One word, plastics.

Posted by: JT in KC at April 21, 2017 12:23 PM (O4CF7)

226 I suggest a Fully Capital-Selected Zero Deposit SPDR.

A FC-SZD SPDR, if you will.
Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (9krrF)


I will find you.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM (mE+17)

227 It's all going to end in tears.

Posted by: DaveA at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM (FhXTo)

228 //192 So why not trust the Dow? Seems like fake news.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:11 PM (QUtQ6)

Because while in the long run it tracks roughly with the other indexes (because it is actively managed and they adjust it!), in the short term it is too volatile because of the reasons I laid out.
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Point me to any study that shows the Dow is more volatile than the other indices. You can't. All of the indices are actively managed. So your thesis is backward... in the short-term the index is fine for measuring performance but over the long-term they all suffer from survivorship bias. The original Dow 30 would probably be down 99% since inception but since failing companies are regularly replaced the performance of the index is quite good. That is an argument against Buy and Hold, not for it.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM (QUtQ6)

229 225 One word, plastics.
Posted by: JT
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Too late - 105

You missed the buy-in.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM (ZO497)

230 It's all going to end in tears.


Posted by: DaveA at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM (FhXTo)

Gonna be some hellacious entertainment when it does.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:25 PM (Jcg9Q)

231 My personal theory is it's a front organization for human trafficking. On the second story of his restaurant is a whore house. Hopefully, the f_ckin' overhead doesn't annoy the diners below.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (HTdUD)
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So you're saying today's art thread is a depiction of the upper room of jwest's restaurant.

Hmm. Could be, I suppose. That would explain the jello because who cares what's for dessert when there are other, uh, options are available?

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:25 PM (sBOL1)

232 >>It's so retro and nerd that it's hip and in.


Maybe this kind of jello would be cool:
http://jelly-shot-test-kitchen.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 12:25 PM (NOIQH)

233 Sure, it's all fun and games until someone shoots their eye out.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:25 PM (gbWkA)

234 Watch it wiggle, see it jiggle

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (M+Lyo)

235 So, let me see if I have this right-- investment advice from a site where we were informed that our ear infections were due to the fact that our Eustachian tubes had not dropped.


I'll have to ponder this one.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (wPiJc)

236 It's all going to end in tears.
Posted by: DaveA

...in the rain.

Posted by: Roy Batty at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (ZO497)

237 Restaurants don't make their money on food. They make it on booze.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:18 PM (mpXpK)

Except that there are plenty of successful restaurants that don't serve booze.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (rF0hx)

238 So far today:

Howard Dean
Hooker Painting
Stock Market Graphs


Being a first-time visitor here has to be confusing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (B+qrE)

239 Local Newscast is all Prince, All the time.

I guess he is Minnesota's version of Elvis.

Posted by: rd at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (iT57s)

240 Jello - Like a breast implant for Barbie?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (ZO497)

241
Oh c'mon. No one under the age of 80 is going to order jello in a restaurant." Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:15 PM (sBOL1)

Not if you call it jello.Call it gelee and it might

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (lKyWE)

242 Sgt. Dow Jones, 27 years old, commanding his very own tank.

Posted by: Grace Slick at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (vRcUp)

243 My "Great Courses" economics professor thinks ETFs are the cats pajamas. I like index funds. And my collection of shoes.

Posted by: LASue at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (CLKfs)

244 238 So far today:

Howard Dean
Hooker Painting
Stock Market Graphs


Being a first-time visitor here has to be confusing.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (B+qrE)

================

I come here all the time and I'm still confused.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (mC1ZI)

245 It's all going to end in tears.

Story of my life.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (X6fMO)

246 I heard the new Hearthcare law (Trumpcare) punishes gays and Lesbians and also makes it more expensive for all people that voted for Hilllary. Trump lied and Healthcare died !!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (WmgTn)

Oh good I didn't realize my proposal that BDSM be covered as sex therapy was reinstated.

Now, if you'll excuse me, Mistress needs to get herself some new crops.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (mE+17)

247 Being a first-time visitor here has to be confusing.
Posted by: Circa
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Muffin tops.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (ZO497)

248
Thanks for the input.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

==

Hey CBD, I thought it was a great post with lots of colors and things that go up and graphical ... graphs.

I think one is upside-down though.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (9zO9Q)

249 Jello - Like a breast implant for Barbie?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (ZO497)
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Did you read the restaurant review that WeirdDave linked to in the ONT last night?

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:28 PM (sBOL1)

250 It's so retro and nerd that it's hip and in.



I'm convinced it will bring the first Michelin star. Pretentious
liberals will write rave reviews, convinced they can detect subtle hints
of rosemary and truffles in the lime jello.



You've got to know your customers.

Posted by: jwest at April 21, 2017 12:21 PM


Slip in the phrase "molecular gastronomy" and double the price.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 12:28 PM (p+Wdc)

251 There's always room for jello.....and a nightcap.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at April 21, 2017 12:28 PM (n8Jnc)

252
The internet is a series of Eustachian tubes.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:29 PM (9zO9Q)

253 Did you read the restaurant review that WeirdDave linked to in the ONT last night?





Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:28 PM


That was brutal. I immediately shared it with my friends. :-P

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 12:29 PM (p+Wdc)

254 The original Dow 30 would probably be down 99% since
inception but since failing companies are regularly replaced the
performance of the index is quite good. That is an argument against Buy
and Hold, not for it.

Posted by: scofflaw_x at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM (QUtQ6)

The point is that as a statistic it isn't a very good one because it is too small a sample. It amplifies small changes out of proportion to the market as a whole.

And I never made any investment argument, so I have no idea what you are talking about with respect to buy and hold.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:29 PM (rF0hx)

255 Is it me or do those lines, and their relative trajectories, look remarkably similar?

Posted by: steve walsh at April 21, 2017 12:29 PM (WOb/E)

256 237 Except that there are plenty of successful restaurants that don't serve booze.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM (rF0hx)

You mean like Jack In The Box?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (mpXpK)

257 252
The internet is a series of Eustachian tubes.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:29 PM (9zO9Q)

I miss the old Windows Eustachian tubes screen saver.

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (7HtZB)

258 Boiled animal carcass parfait

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (M+Lyo)

259 On topic:

RobinHood is a hipster trading broker that is almost free to use. Currently you can only buy and sell stocks and the platform is very rudimentary.

If anyone is interested, I believe I can send you an invitation. You have to wait in line to get set up, which can take awhile.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (xVuS6)

260 Did you read the restaurant review that WeirdDave linked to in the ONT last night?

Posted by: bluebell
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I could not have come up with that on my own.
Remember, every obtuse comment here is a thinly-veiled reference to something already discussed.

Well, every comment of mine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (ZO497)

261 interesaaaaaaant Charles Murray-style article about Fwance:

The French, Coming Apart

"Guilluy doubts that anyplace exists in France's new economy for working people as we've traditionally understood them. Paris offers the most striking case. As it has prospered, the City of Light has stratified, resembling, in this regard, London or American cities such as New York and San Francisco. It's a place for millionaires, immigrants, tourists, and the young, with no room for the median Frenchman. Paris now drives out the people once thought of as synonymous with the city."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (GgzGa)

262 It's all going to end in tears.

Posted by: DaveA



...in the rain.

Posted by: Roy Batty at April 21, 2017 12:26 PM


...alone.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (p+Wdc)

263 That was brutal. I immediately shared it with my friends. :-P
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 12:29 PM (p+Wdc)
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It was indeed brutal, and hilarious. I couldn't believe he got away with the cussing but I guess anything goes nowadays.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (sBOL1)

264 Oh, and it's Ace-movie review length, btw.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (GgzGa)

265 Buy and hold? Is that like back and to the right?

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (gbWkA)

266 We need a video game thread.

Or, at least, *I* need a video game thread.

Posted by: MrShad at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (xGFmr)

267 Boiled animal carcass parfait
Posted by: The Jackhole
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Just the hooves.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (ZO497)

268 "The point is that as a statistic it isn't a very good one because it is too small a sample. It amplifies small changes out of proportion to the market as a whole."

Not only that but the sample is not random. The value of the index as a proxy or indicator is much lower as it depends so much on the quality of the choice of contributing components.

Posted by: steve walsh at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (WOb/E)

269 Paris now drives out the people once thought of as synonymous with the city."

I don't know... it sounds like the assholes and thieves are still around in full force.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (Tnhbr)

270 Let's not imagine a Chevron oil refinery fire, considering that's where I am at right this minute.

Posted by: JROD at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (JODDm)

271 261 interesaaaaaaant Charles Murray-style article about Fwance:

The French, Coming Apart

"Guilluy doubts that anyplace exists in France's new economy for working people as we've traditionally understood them. Paris offers the most striking case. As it has prospered, the City of Light has stratified, resembling, in this regard, London or American cities such as New York and San Francisco. It's a place for millionaires, immigrants, tourists, and the young, with no room for the median Frenchman. Paris now drives out the people once thought of as synonymous with the city."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (GgzGa)

================

This will end well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (mC1ZI)

272 You mean like Jack In The Box?

Point of Order: While not serving it, Jack in the Box would not exist without booze.

This is known as the 2:30 a.m. paradox.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (B+qrE)

273 OK, I'm'a just sit over here and await my visit from the Ravage...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (9krrF)

274 It was indeed brutal, and hilarious. I couldn't believe he got away with the cussing but I guess anything goes nowadays.





Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM


Well...it was The Guardian....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (p+Wdc)

275 Team under boob here

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (GwIKd)

276 My personal theory is it's a front organization for human trafficking. On the second story of his restaurant is a whore house. Hopefully, the f_ckin' overhead doesn't annoy the diners below.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (HTdUD)
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That reminds me of a Kliban cartoon which I cannot link in a sufficient size; it shows a side-of-the-road food stand nestled between the knees of a gigantic busty cowgirl statue. She's pointing to the stand, which has the large sign "EAT" over it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:33 PM (X6fMO)

277 Except that there are plenty of successful restaurants that don't serve booze.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


There are a lot of 'successful' businesses where the owners make next to no profit and pay themselves peanuts. I put the successful in quotes because that doesn't exactly fit my criteria for success. It's a job, sure. But long hours at less than minimum wage sounds more like hobby money.

In restaurants, if you survive ten years, that's a better ratio than 90% of other restaurant start-ups. Which is pretty much the ratio for all businesses.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 12:33 PM (HTdUD)

278 "Guilluy doubts that anyplace exists in France's new economy for working people as we've traditionally understood them. .."

Coming soon, The Camp of the Saints

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:33 PM (ZO497)

279 You mean like Jack In The Box?

Point of Order: While not serving it, Jack in the Box would not exist without booze.

This is known as the 2:30 a.m. paradox.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 21, 2017 12:32 PM (B+qrE)


So true, so true

Posted by: The Jackhole at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (M+Lyo)

280 Not only that but the sample is not random. The
value of the index as a proxy or indicator is much lower as it depends
so much on the quality of the choice of contributing components.

Posted by: steve walsh at April 21, 2017 12:31 PM (WOb/E)

Yup. And not only are the choices not random, they aren't based on any rigorous calculation. It's pretty much whatever Dow Jones thinks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (rF0hx)

281 Hi, I'm William Devane.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (7uYFy)

282 271 261 interesaaaaaaant Charles Murray-style article about Fwance:

The French, Coming Apart

"Guilluy doubts that anyplace exists in France's new economy for working people as we've traditionally understood them. Paris offers the most striking case. As it has prospered, the City of Light has stratified, resembling, in this regard, London or American cities such as New York and San Francisco. It's a place for millionaires, immigrants, tourists, and the young, with no room for the median Frenchman. Paris now drives out the people once thought of as synonymous with the city."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (GgzGa)



And who said we had nothing in common with the Frogs? Mr. Murray's description reads like where I live (SF and vicinity)

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (ujg0T)

283 Now, if you'll excuse me, Mistress needs to get herself some new crops.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM (mE+17)


Damn you, Malevolence.

Damn you to hell.

**bunk**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (X6fMO)

284 The countries with the most prodigious appetites for internet pron are all Islamic, consistently, and their economiies are nothing to brag about. They are closely followed by state and federal employees.

Does the pron index have a positive or negative correlation with economic activity?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (jbO2E)

285 I suggest a Fully Capital-Selected Zero Deposit SPDR.



A FC-SZD SPDR, if you will.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (9krrF)





I will find you.

Posted by: alexthechick at April 21, 2017 12:24 PM


So will my trademark attorneys.

Posted by: The Face-Sized Spider in AtC's closet at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (p+Wdc)

286 231
My personal theory is it's a front organization for human trafficking.
On the second story of his restaurant is a whore house. Hopefully, the
f_ckin' overhead doesn't annoy the diners below.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (HTdUD)

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So you're saying today's art thread is a depiction of the upper room of jwest's restaurant.



Hmm. Could be, I suppose. That would explain the jello because who
cares what's for dessert when there are other, uh, options are
available?





Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:25 PM (sBOL1)


Happy Ending Sundaes for the win

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 21, 2017 12:35 PM (jxbfJ)

287 >>
interesaaaaaaant Charles Murray-style article about Fwance:


It is an excellent article. Here's the link:

https://www.city-journal.org/html/french-coming-apart-15125.html

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 12:35 PM (NOIQH)

288 The Dow has a lower beta, and contains the most widely held dividend stocks.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 12:35 PM (7ZVPa)

289 282 271 261 interesaaaaaaant Charles Murray-style article about Fwance:

The French, Coming Apart

"Guilluy doubts that anyplace exists in France's new economy for working people as we've traditionally understood them. Paris offers the most striking case. As it has prospered, the City of Light has stratified, resembling, in this regard, London or American cities such as New York and San Francisco. It's a place for millionaires, immigrants, tourists, and the young, with no room for the median Frenchman. Paris now drives out the people once thought of as synonymous with the city."
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (GgzGa)


And who said we had nothing in common with the Frogs? Mr. Murray's description reads like where I live (SF and vicinity)
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (ujg0T)

Only the very rich and the very poor can afford to live in a big city.

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 12:35 PM (7HtZB)

290 284 The countries with the most prodigious appetites for internet pron are all Islamic, consistently, and their economiies are nothing to brag about. They are closely followed by state and federal employees.

Does the pron index have a positive or negative correlation with economic activity?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM (jbO2E)

===============

I wonder, if I were king of some small third world country, would it be a good idea to ban smart phones (allowing for simple flip phones)?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:36 PM (mC1ZI)

291 2:30 paradox=4:00 hershey squirts

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 21, 2017 12:36 PM (sCh2R)

292 More broker info:

I've been using eOption for years because it was the cheapest broker for traders without a lot of money to trade with. Commissions are $3 plus .15 per contract for options.

They've changed hands several times during the time I've been with them. This last change (Jan 2016) has been a disaster. The computer system has issues, such as displaying the wrong numbers for the market price and bid/ask spread. It's very hard to trade with bad info!

I've switched to OptionsHouse. Commissions are $4.95 plus .50 per contract. So far I've only used their (very nice) paper trading platform. (I'm getting warmed up while waiting for my deposit to clear.) I did learn after I signed up that if your balance drops below $1000 you lose access to real-time quotes.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 12:36 PM (xVuS6)

293 Is future performance guaranteed?

Posted by: Weasel at April 21, 2017 12:37 PM (C8aCP)

294 293 Is future performance guaranteed?
Posted by: Weasel at April 21, 2017 12:37 PM (C8aCP)

===============

"Yes! Our models are perfect!"
-Climate Scientist

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:38 PM (mC1ZI)

295 You mean like Jack In The Box?

Point of Order: While not serving it, Jack in the Box would not exist without booze.

This is known as the 2:30 a.m. paradox.
Posted by: Circa



Home of the greasy taco that slides out the same way it went in.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:38 PM (vZ0KM)

296 Is future performance guaranteed?

Always.

Posted by: Paolo at April 21, 2017 12:39 PM (X6fMO)

297 Is future performance guaranteed?

Yes.

Posted by: Second Law of Thermodynamics, Sitting on your left shoulder. Always. at April 21, 2017 12:39 PM (B+qrE)

298 223 Maybe this is just blog filler until Ace rolls around.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (Fmupd)

Sigh....

Thanks for the input.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (rF0hx)

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Just snarking, but I still think both indices are almost identical.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:39 PM (Fmupd)

299 Happy Ending Sundaes for the win


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 21, 2017 12:35 PM


Minus the cherry on top, of course....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 12:39 PM (p+Wdc)

300
I NOOK DISNEYRAND, LOUNDEYE.

BYE BYE MICKEY!

Posted by: Kim Jong Un at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (9zO9Q)

301 My area of the country (KS) is absolutely devastated. Oil has tanked and agriculture has gotten killed. We're begging for a weaker dollar but that won't happen. Unemployment in our state is down to 3% but that's only because we're hemorrhaging population.

Meanwhile, the fatass cops all have brand new cruisers.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (woKq6)

302 298 Maybe this is just blog filler until Ace rolls around.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:16 PM (Fmupd)

Sigh....

Thanks for the input.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:22 PM (rF0hx)

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Just snarking, but I still think both indices are almost identical.
Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 12:39 PM (Fmupd)

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It's how I feel about that Saturday movie thread garbage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (mC1ZI)

303 morning.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (4lrrm)

304 I have some good friends who run a successful restaurant/bar. They have openly told me they could not keep the resturaunt open w/o the bar. The average restaurant makes between 2% and 5% profit. The bar much more so. I have a feeling that if the law would allow it here they would close the restaurant part and only run the bar. But you can not serve liquor in SC w/o a restaurant.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (mpXpK)

305 Bizzarro Parallel Universe:

Senior White House Adviser Chelsea Clinton called for calm after revelations that Iran had violated its treaty and was close to testing an atomic bomb.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (SIY7D)

306 Who would ever wnat to live in a big city? Don't you people watch movies? That's the first place Godzilla and/or zombies head straight for when the shit hits the fan.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 12:41 PM (gbWkA)

307 303 morning.
Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (4lrrm)

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I immediately checked for a new thread.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:41 PM (mC1ZI)

308 Is this serious post CBD's attempt to make up for the smut posted on the art thread?

Posted by: StrawMan at April 21, 2017 12:41 PM (SgI6S)

309 I was under the impression that the Dow was made up of relatively-stable blue chip stocks, while the S&P was made up of growth stocks.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 12:41 PM (xVuS6)

310 James, I'm trying to not make too much noise over here.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:42 PM (4lrrm)

311 I've switched to OptionsHouse. Commissions are $4.95 plus .50 per contract. So far I've only used their (very nice) paper trading platform. (I'm getting warmed up while waiting for my deposit to clear.) I did learn after I signed up that if your balance drops below $1000 you lose access to real-time quotes.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 12:36 PM (xVuS6)

I use the thinkorswim software paper money side to make all my decisions and just enter the orders on OH (have never had enough $$ for a live ToS account). Even on the paper money side the quotes are all live.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:42 PM (Jcg9Q)

312 304 I have some good friends who run a successful restaurant/bar. They have openly told me they could not keep the resturaunt open w/o the bar. The average restaurant makes between 2% and 5% profit. The bar much more so. I have a feeling that if the law would allow it here they would close the restaurant part and only run the bar. But you can not serve liquor in SC w/o a restaurant.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (mpXpK)

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Do you know if your friends can get Blanton's bourbon easily?

It's almost impossible to find in liquor stores in the low country, and I've heard it's because the restaurants have cornered the market on nicer bourbons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:42 PM (mC1ZI)

313 I was under the impression that the Dow was made up of relatively-stable blue chip stocks, while the S&P was made up of growth stocks.

Posted by: Emmie

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Close, but the S and P includes the Dow stocks. Essentially, the Dow is picking the top tier of the 500, or attempting to.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 12:43 PM (7ZVPa)

314 300
I NOOK DISNEYRAND, LOUNDEYE.

BYE BYE MICKEY!
Posted by: Kim Jong Un at April 21, 2017 12:40 PM (9zO9Q)



If only he would miss a bit and hit Hollywood or South Central LA.

Or miss some more and hit San Francisco or Berkeley.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:43 PM (ujg0T)

315 That's the first place Godzilla and/or zombies head straight for when the shit hits the fan.
Posted by: Strobe
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A lot you know.

Posted by: Hershel Greene at April 21, 2017 12:43 PM (ZO497)

316 And in cognitive dissonance news, from The New Republic: "The Handmaid's' Tale Is a Warning to Conservative Women - Hulu's adaptation of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the patriarchy.

The Left not only hates us, but are wholly incapable of understanding us.
Hello, why not direct this talk to Linda Sarsour instead of Kellyanne Conway?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 12:44 PM (NOIQH)

317 That's the first place Godzilla and/or zombies head straight for when the shit hits the fan.
Posted by: Strobe
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A lot you know.
Posted by: Hershel Greene
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Word.

Posted by: Max Yasgur at April 21, 2017 12:44 PM (ZO497)

318 An index isn't necessarily a good investment. Poorly performing companies can be dropped from the index and replaced, your stock in that company could lose value that the index might not show and trying to match up your portfolio with the index again will likely result in a loss. In terms of diversity, something like the S&P 500 probably won't give you a good percentage of small and mid cap companies to appropriately balance your risk either.

Posted by: Sjg at April 21, 2017 12:45 PM (gDSJf)

319 316 And in cognitive dissonance news, from The New Republic: "The Handmaid's' Tale Is a Warning to Conservative Women - Hulu's adaptation of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the patriarchy.

The Left not only hates us, but are wholly incapable of understanding us.
Hello, why not direct this talk to Linda Sarsour instead of Kellyanne Conway?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 12:44 PM (NOIQH)

==============

Kellyanne is so oppressed she doesn't even realize it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:45 PM (mC1ZI)

320 The charts kinda go against your thesis there.

If the Wilshire 5000 is 'pretty much all the publicly traded companies," then yeah, the Dow 30 is a fair barometer, not such a big difference.

From your initial claim I was expecting them to be wildly divergent. Alas, they are not.

This restaurant serving up nothingburgers too? I'm hungry!

Posted by: Please SMOD make it quick at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (c5sfq)

321 I was under the impression that the Dow was made up of relatively-stable blue chip stocks, while the S&P was made up of growth stocks.

Posted by: Emmie

The S&P is just the 500 largest companies in terms of capital size.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (Jcg9Q)

322 In 1990 Trump testified to a finance committee about tax policy driving money into global stocks, while hampering domestic real estate. (he was also against NAFTA type deals even then). A couple years later Easy Al Greenspan made his "irrational exuberance" comment about our markets.

But Greenspan then earned the Easy Al nickname by constantly boosting bubble markets with easy money policy. Global markets became everything, and America First was tossed off the cliff with Buchanan and others that didn't share the globalist dream. "Smart" people were 100% invested.

Wall Street took control, millionaires became billionaires just by playing the markets KNOWING that interest rate policy was always going to bail out markets. After the dotcom bubble popped, they crossed another rubicon few recognized when the Fannie/Freddie scam was revealed. TARP ushered in the era of ZIRP (insane zero interest rate policy) and QE (printing money and having the fed reserve "buy" bonds when the market would not buy enough).

That floated US mushrooming debt for eight years as Obama played other games like billions on pallets to Iran, or confiscating Fannie/Freddie revenues and spending it "off book". Now the Goldman boys are thick as thieves inside Trump's offices, and the 20% that are "invested" demand markets go up, while the 80% need America First policy to rebuild the middle class.

Another economic indicator other than stock markets is small independent business startups ... people that invest in themselves and don't depend on other people's money. Amazon lost that easy money for some 20 years as they drove others out of business. That is part of the damage of easy money policy.

Market Players got very rich and now pretty much own our government .. it's a mess. Markets could drop back to DOW 10K, maybe they NEED to, but that is bad for any politician.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (TmCOq)

323 312 Do you know if your friends can get Blanton's bourbon easily?



It's almost impossible to find in liquor stores in the low country,
and I've heard it's because the restaurants have cornered the market on
nicer bourbons.

Posted by: at April 21, 2017 12:42 PM (mC1ZI)

I have never seen it there, but I haven't been in there in years. I had the corner liquor store guy here tell me he could order pretty much anything I wanted. Have you tried getting someone to order it?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (mpXpK)

324 Lizzy, I've never got the left ideas on mid to conservative women, You'd think they'd applaud the idea of self determination, self sufficiency and the 'children ' we love to save from the wretched monies makers , like PP and parts for us.

but no.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (4lrrm)

325
That's the first place Godzilla and/or zombies head straight for when the shit hits the fan. Posted by: Strobe


Godzilla always goes after the highspeed rail first

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (lKyWE)

326 Well, the rot has spread. I just saw an ad for a new NatGeo channel movie entitled Genius which proposes that monogamy is not natural and shows an old coot (Einstein?) banging a young chick.

I expect this on Lifetime but I was hoping that NatGeo's crazy was limited to global enwarmening.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (Nwg0u)

327 One word. Big Data.

Okay. Two words.

Posted by: What's my name? Suck it, , that's my name at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (7YZyt)

328 And in cognitive dissonance news, from The New Republic: "The
Handmaid's' Tale Is a Warning to Conservative Women - Hulu's adaptation
of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the
patriarchy.

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Let me put my patriarchy in you.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:47 PM (9zO9Q)

329 My investment advice - go long on torches and pitchforks.

Posted by: Weasel at April 21, 2017 12:47 PM (C8aCP)

330 314 That reminds me,during WW2 the Japanese would shout out things like "Fuck Mickey Mouse!""Fuck Babe Ruth!".Thinking it was somehow demoralizing to American Marines and soldiers who actually found it hilarious.

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2017 12:47 PM (r/0kC)

331 that's right they like women to stay wretched and obligated to the progressive vote.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:47 PM (4lrrm)

332 7 & 11 are my friend

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 21, 2017 12:47 PM (KlI/a)

333 I expect this on Lifetime but I was hoping that NatGeo's crazy was limited to global enwarmening.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Lately, 'gender fluidity'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 21, 2017 12:48 PM (ZO497)

334 Overstayed my time here again, now I'll be sleeping 'til it gets dark.

'Night all.

Posted by: Country Boy - Michigan exile at April 21, 2017 12:48 PM (Jcg9Q)

335 slides salad fork across bars, help we are stuck in a math thread, In The Monring!

making us think about srs stuff and all.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:48 PM (4lrrm)

336 The average restaurant makes between 2% and 5% profit.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


Then, after all those long nights and early mornings, possibly seven days a week, they give about a third of that profit to the government.

I understand how some people love the entire experience, but a restaurant as an investment is not for the faint of heart.

It's certainly going to take a large fortune and turn it into a small fortune.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (HTdUD)

337 the horrors of collusion with the patriarchy

Yeah. You ignore Wisconsin and lose the Presidency.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (B+qrE)

338 323
I have never seen it there, but I haven't been in there in years. I had the corner liquor store guy here tell me he could order pretty much anything I wanted. Have you tried getting someone to order it?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (mpXpK)

================

My lady liquor store owner and I have spoken about it more than once. There's a limited supply of it, and when she gets it she gets about 3 bottles which sell out in a few hours and which she sells at double the retail price.

If it were readily available, I'd be happy that I can get a good bourbon, but because it's impossible to find, I've built it up much more than logic would dictate. It's close to obsession levels.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (mC1ZI)

339 I expect this on Lifetime but I was hoping that NatGeo's crazy was limited to global enwarmening.

The magazine version recently did a cover story on shemales.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (oVJmc)

340 If anyone can recommend a good broker for an options trader (me) with low commissions, I'd love to hear it.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (xVuS6)

341 316 And in cognitive dissonance news, from The New Republic: "The Handmaid's' Tale Is a Warning to Conservative Women - Hulu's adaptation of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the patriarchy.

The Left not only hates us, but are wholly incapable of understanding us.
Hello, why not direct this talk to Linda Sarsour instead of Kellyanne Conway?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 12:44 PM (NOIQH)




I am reminded of a political cartoon I saw some years back, with a Donk caricature pitching free contraceptives and spoouting rhetoric about free love to a mother who was busy fueling her car (the implication being that the fuel prices were rising), with a baby in one of the car seats.

The Left believes its own lunatic fever dreams about the USA, yet condones a whole swath of the Muslim world where women are "Handmaids" for real.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (ujg0T)

342 making us think about srs stuff and all.
Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:48 PM (4lrrm)
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It's okay, willow - come sit next to me. I've got some candy I lifted from my kids' Easter baskets.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (sBOL1)

343 Greeting cards.

Hyoog future in greeting cards.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:50 PM (9zO9Q)

344 That's the first place Godzilla and/or zombies head straight for when the shit hits the fan. Posted by: Strobe


Godzilla always goes after the highspeed rail first
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic



Does he actually "go after it" or more just stumble over it?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:50 PM (vZ0KM)

345 283 Now, if you'll excuse me, Mistress needs to get herself some new crops.
Posted by: alexthechick at April 21, 2017 12:27 PM

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Damn you, Malevolence.

Damn you to hell.

**bunk**
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:34 PM


MPPP did not beg permission.

Bad MPPP.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 21, 2017 12:50 PM (DMUuz)

346 The Statue of Liberty is kaput!

Posted by: Germans, in France at April 21, 2017 12:50 PM (gbWkA)

347 If anyone can recommend a good broker for an options trader (me) with low commissions, I'd love to hear it.
Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (xVuS6)
_______


... and can also DJ a wedding.


I think that is the perfect commercial for depicting the head in the sand populous of this country.

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 12:51 PM (A/Djk)

348 ty bluebell, . licks Canterbury egg delicately.

nevermind, wolfs it down. mm

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:51 PM (4lrrm)

349 From your initial claim I was expecting them to be wildly divergent. Alas, they are not.

Posted by: Please SMOD make it quick at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (c5sfq)

My point stands. It is a statistically poor measure of the market. And they adjust it to follow the larger economy, so long term trends are essentially meaningless.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:52 PM (rF0hx)

350 Does he actually "go after it" or more just stumble over it?
Posted by: rickb
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Damned kids. They never put their toys away.

Posted by: Godzilla at April 21, 2017 12:52 PM (ZO497)

351 Blanton's Distributor in SC



South Carolina



Republic National Distributing




410 Foster Brothers Drive
West Columbia, SC 29172

Phone:803-739-0188

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:52 PM (mpXpK)

352 Market Players got very rich and now pretty much own
our government .. it's a mess. Markets could drop back to DOW 10K,
maybe they NEED to, but that is bad for any politician.


Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (TmCOq)

Don't forget the 2008 bailouts, too-big-to-fail and all that. The banksters know that daddy gov't won't let them fail now so why not double-down on stupid high-yield risk?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 12:52 PM (UBzPO)

353 All I want to know is how this affects the quantity of gold commercials on radio and TV.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 21, 2017 12:53 PM (giapq)

354 Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2017 12:46 PM (TmCOq)

Well said....

The markets show how much money the top 10% are making...

Not how well the economy is actually doing...

With Computer trading, Wall Street is now nothing more than a Virtual Vegas... where you are betting on how OTHERS will perceive the worth of the stock...

Want a Tax Policy suggestion? NO Tax on profits from stocks held for a Year or more... 30% Tax on profits from stocks held less than a year...

Make investing long term profitable, not just gambling in the market..

Posted by: Don Q., at April 21, 2017 12:53 PM (NgKpN)

355 sees alex's name, hurries to make tea and plate of croissants.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:53 PM (4lrrm)

356 Damn you, Malevolence.

Damn you to hell.

**bunk**
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


MPPP did not beg permission.

Bad MPPP.
Posted by: Duncanthrax




*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (vZ0KM)

357 willow, luckily my kids don't seem to like Cadbury eggs, whereas I do. It's interesting that the Easter bunny always brings some for them.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (sBOL1)

358 I play Wagner; my boys love it!

Posted by: Col. Kilgor at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (gbWkA)

359 bluebell, It's just and right you would think of every eventuality.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (4lrrm)

360 The South Sea Company can't miss!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Join the Conspiracy of the Month Club at the Outrage Outlet! Flavored Tinfoil in May! at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (hLRSq)

361 351 410 Foster Brothers Drive
West Columbia, SC 29172

Phone:803-739-0188

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:52 PM (mpXpK)

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Hmm...

Google is good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (mC1ZI)

362
Does he actually "go after it" or more just stumble over it?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:50 PM (vZ0KM)


The purposeful grimace and terrible sound is the dead give away

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 12:55 PM (lKyWE)

363 willow, luckily my kids don't seem to like Cadbury eggs, whereas I do.
It's interesting that the Easter bunny always brings some for them.


That cwazy wabbit!

Posted by: fluffy at April 21, 2017 12:56 PM (jw2Xw)

364 Want a Tax Policy suggestion? NO Tax on profits from stocks held for a Year or more... 30% Tax on profits from stocks held less than a year...




Or, a sliding scale for 1, 5, & 10 year holds.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 12:56 PM (vZ0KM)

365 Believe me gentlemen, with your significant investments our new ocean liner will revolutionize sea travel.

Posted by: White Star Lines CEO at April 21, 2017 12:56 PM (A/Djk)

366 Google is good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (mC1ZI)

There are a bunch of internet booze sellers that ship to me in NJ. If I can't find what I want they can usually ship it to me at a reasonable price.

http://www.wine-searcher.com


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:56 PM (rF0hx)

367 And in cognitive dissonance news, from The New Republic: "The
Handmaid's' Tale Is a Warning to Conservative Women - Hulu's adaptation
of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the
patriarchy.


**seethes**

I wish the fucking lunatic twats like Atwood and her leftist acolytes could be permanently deported to a hellhole like Iran and find out what a real patriarchy is, instead of whining that the freest country in the Western world for vapid, screeching, vain harpies is somehow oppressing them because they can't have every damned desire of theirs catered to nownownow!

And I also wish we had a damned patriarchy where women had no autonomy and were under the instant command of men because maybe then I could actually spend a night in the arms of a woman instead of wasting my damned weekends on soul-destroying, aimless, useless fapping.

Fuck. Me.

**looks at clock**

I'm going to drink like a Kennedy tonight.

**seething ends**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:57 PM (X6fMO)

368 What am I chopped liver?

Posted by: Mothra at April 21, 2017 12:57 PM (gbWkA)

369 366 There are a bunch of internet booze sellers that
ship to me in NJ. If I can't find what I want they can usually ship it
to me at a reasonable price.

http://www.wine-searcher.com




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:56 PM (rF0hx)

Unfortunately SC doesn't allow that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:58 PM (mpXpK)

370 366 Google is good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:54 PM (mC1ZI)

There are a bunch of internet booze sellers that ship to me in NJ. If I can't find what I want they can usually ship it to me at a reasonable price.

http://www.wine-searcher.com


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:56 PM (rF0hx)

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I've thought of buying it online, but shipping (at least to SC) is ridiculous. We're talking about $50 per package. Pretty much no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (mC1ZI)

371 Unfortunately SC doesn't allow that.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 12:58 PM (mpXpK)

How will they know?

NJ sort of doesn't allow it, but about half of the companies will ship to me anyway.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (rF0hx)

372 It's the fucking Catalina Wine Mixer

Posted by: Gaius Julius Caesar at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (FTPVM)

373 If Western men actually did run the world, they wouldn't be dressing women up like the Amish.

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (7HtZB)

374 Doom, despair, and agony on me...

If it weren't for bad investments, I'd have no investments at all...

Doom, despair, and agony on me.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:00 PM (TOk1P)

375 Go Long.

Posted by: Huey, way down in Louisiana at April 21, 2017 01:00 PM (gbWkA)

376 371
How will they know?

NJ sort of doesn't allow it, but about half of the companies will ship to me anyway.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (rF0hx)

================

Total Wine won't do it, but others get around whatever laws might be in place.

My wife and I subscribe to Flaviar, a monthly subscription spirits box, and it gets delivered to our door.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:00 PM (mC1ZI)

377 Did anyone point out the chick in the painting below is team hardwoods?

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (GwIKd)

378 Further, the dow is price weighted whereas something like the s&p is weighted by market cap. The companies in an indez don't all get an equal weighting in how the index is moving

Picture IBM with 160 stock price and GE with a 30 stock price. Any movement in IBM will carry 5x more weight on the dow movement, though IBM is actually a smaller company, they are worth 150b vs GE worth 250b.
Share price is pretty arbitrary making it a poor thing to weight an index off of. The price itself is completely dependent on how many shares are floating, which can be changed qt any time by the company through share splits, so it is arbitrary

Posted by: Mst3k at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (SbaWv)

379 TheJM, aren't you from Virginia? Could you have a relative get some for you for the next time you visit or they come down?

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (sBOL1)

380 The Left believes its own lunatic fever dreams about the USA, yet condones a whole swath of the Muslim world where women are "Handmaids" for real.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 12:49 PM (ujg0T)



It's been long ago and far away. but I remember reading an interview with Atwood where she says that her inspiration for this came from the muslim world.

The Iranian fundamentalist islamic revolution, if I'm remembering correctly. And was shocked by all of these modern women forced back into the burka or hijab or whatever. As well as mortified by all the new restrictions on women in Iranian society.

And here's where you have to be a progtard for this to make sense-

Atwood realized that this could exactly happen in the US should Christians and more especially Fundamentalist Christians ever get into gov't!!!!111!!!

Thus "The Handmaiden's Tale", a book inspired by islam and the Iranian islamic revolution and islam's treatment of women but applied to the US.

Cuz Christianity and islam are exactly the same. Exactly.


Like fascism, oppression of women is always descending upon the United States but landing in the Middle East.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (NyJwR)

381 Pretty much no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (mC1ZI)

Bite the bullet and buy a case. Their prices are good, so even with the shipping it is a wash or a savings.

Of course you have to admit to yourself that you are buying hard liquor by the case and you are dissolute.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (rF0hx)

382 371 How will they know?

NJ sort of doesn't allow it, but about half of the companies will ship to me anyway.




Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (rF0hx)

Probably wouldn't but why take the chance?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (mpXpK)

383 373 If Western men actually did run the world, they wouldn't be dressing women up like the Amish.
Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (7HtZB)

==============

If 16 year old boys ran feminism, they'd convince young women that they should be slutty, walk around topless, and embrace bisexualism.

Wait a minute...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (mC1ZI)

384 373 If Western men actually did run the world, they wouldn't be dressing women up like the Amish.


Yoga pants for all the hotties

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (GwIKd)

385 I NOOK DISNEYRAND, LOUNDEYE.

BYE BYE MICKEY!
Posted by: Kim Jong Un


The reft devouling itserf. I'll go make some popcorn.

Posted by: Dr. Dao Jones at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (vRcUp)

386 379 TheJM, aren't you from Virginia? Could you have a relative get some for you for the next time you visit or they come down?

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (sBOL1)

==============

My dad (who lives in Blacksburg) is coming down in July, so I was going to ask him.

The question to Vic was less, "I need a source!" and more, "Out of curiousity".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (mC1ZI)

387 SC won't allow that? You should secede, Vic.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (gbWkA)

388 **looks at clock**

I'm going to drink like a Kennedy tonight.

**seething ends**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:57 PM (X6fMO)



Some people have all the fun. You're going to drink like a Kennedy. Others are going to f**k like a Kennedy.

Me, I'm going to drive like a Kennedy. Or worse, ride in the back seat of a car like a Kennedy.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

389 Did anyone point out the chick in the painting below is team hardwoods?

Posted by: Yo! at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (GwIKd)

About 150 commenters.....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (rF0hx)

390 Off, unruly oriental sock.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (vRcUp)

391 381 Pretty much no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 12:59 PM (mC1ZI)

Bite the bullet and buy a case. Their prices are good, so even with the shipping it is a wash or a savings.

Of course you have to admit to yourself that you are buying hard liquor by the case and you are dissolute.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 01:01 PM (rF0hx)

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We just started paying for daily day care for my 3 year old.

I wish I had the money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (mC1ZI)

392 Well, I wouldn't recommend oil/energy stocks.

Underlying the decline in consumption are the demographic shifts/capital hoarding to the baby boomers.

I've said it before...if Trump wants an economic stimulus, then he should abrogate all student loan debt.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (woKq6)

393 something just happened.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (xVuS6)

394 Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

Or I suppose, walk through the kitchen of a hotel like a Kennedy.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (TOk1P)

395 My dad (who lives in Blacksburg) is coming down in July, so I was going to ask him.
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Is he affiliated with VT?

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (sBOL1)

396 I wish the fucking lunatic twats like Atwood and her leftist acolytes could be permanently deported to a hellhole like Iran and find out what a real patriarchy is, instead of whining that the freest country in the Western world for vapid, screeching, vain harpies is somehow oppressing them because they can't have every damned desire of theirs catered to nownownow!


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It's all diversion to what the left really wants. And that's complete control over your life. The patriarchy mantra is just part of the means to that end.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 01:04 PM (Fmupd)

397 I wish the fucking lunatic twats like Atwood and her leftist acolytes could be permanently deported to a hellhole like Iran and find out what a real patriarchy is, instead of whining that the freest country in the Western world for vapid, screeching, vain harpies is somehow oppressing them because they can't have every damned desire of theirs catered to nownownow!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:57 PM (X6fMO)




I have become a proponent of a form of "alternative sentencing" for leftist "womyn" criminals, like the masked ones throwing various projectiles at demonstrations.

They could be stripped, thrown into a cell with a jihadist or a "DindoNuffin" criminal for whom their heart bleeds, or even a gang of them. With filming or podcasting of the results.

Or false accusations of rape or sexual harrassment by leftist "womyn" could be punished in the same fashion.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

398 Jacques Rolla, even with a fortune that he squandered could only find a prostitute to make love to him.

that's my contribution to the last post.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (4lrrm)

399 387
SC won't allow that? You should secede, Vic.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (gbWkA)

Wasn't that tried once before?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (mpXpK)

400 392 Well, I wouldn't recommend oil/energy stocks.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (woKq6)


A friend of mine is in the oil business and is a stock trader. He doesn't like oil stocks, either.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (xVuS6)

401 395 My dad (who lives in Blacksburg) is coming down in July, so I was going to ask him.
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Is he affiliated with VT?

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (sBOL1)

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Former department head who stepped down after 7 years to return to his full professorship.

He mainly deals with Ph.D. students who end up getting jobs with DoD, it seems.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (mC1ZI)

402 I'm going to drink like a Kennedy tonight.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 12:57 PM


Hmmm....this idea has merit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (p+Wdc)

403 Some people have all the fun. You're going to drink like a Kennedy. Others are going to f**k like a Kennedy.

Me, I'm going to drive like a Kennedy. Or worse, ride in the back seat of a car like a Kennedy.



Fly like a Kennedy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (LTHVh)

404 "Don't forget the 2008 bailouts, too-big-to-fail and all that. The banksters know that daddy gov't won't let them fail now so why not double-down on stupid high-yield risk? Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

yeah

the thing is, so many got "invested" and they do OK, but bought into "globalism" without knowing it. With some stocks like Chevron they might actually own something, but what do they really own with GOOG or the others? (I just saw the Drudge article about some GOOG guys defecting and doing their own startup)

Meanwhile the real billionaires and Madoff types get leveraged 50:1 or LTCM was 300:1, and when their comeuppance came up, we the little people bailed them out (thx BigGov). It's gonna take a revolution and big restructuring of debt which those boyz don't want. But it is the Bailout Billionaires that need to be targeted, not "the average white man colonialist".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2017 01:06 PM (TmCOq)

405 Ah. My daughter loves it there. Loves it.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:06 PM (sBOL1)

406 399 387
SC won't allow that? You should secede, Vic.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (gbWkA)

Wasn't that tried once before?
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (mpXpK)

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You know...it would be easier to take Fort Sumter this time.

No federal troops.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:06 PM (mC1ZI)

407 Ski like a Kennedy?

Posted by: White Star Lines CEO at April 21, 2017 01:06 PM (A/Djk)

408 I wish the fucking lunatic twats like Atwood and her leftist acolytes could be permanently deported to a hellhole like Iran and find out what a real patriarchy is, instead of whining that the freest country in the Western world for vapid, screeching, vain harpies is somehow oppressing them because they can't have every damned desire of theirs catered to nownownow!
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what's interesting about their ideology is They would make This country as much as a dictatorship as the Iranian leadership, but without any old religion, just their new ones that grow exponentially by the year.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:07 PM (4lrrm)

409 Titanic sock fail

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 01:07 PM (A/Djk)

410 SC won't allow that? You should secede, Vic.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:02 PM (gbWkA)

Wasn't that tried once before?


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (mpXpK)


Obviously not tried hard enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:07 PM (TOk1P)

411 No federal troops.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:06 PM (mC1ZI)

And a lot of support from the rest of the country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (rF0hx)

412 Golf like A Kennedy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (LTHVh)

413 I've said it before...if Trump wants an economic stimulus, then he should abrogate all student loan debt.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie


Nah. Debtors prison for college graduates who refuse to pay down their loans in any year. Do you know how many businesses can't find drug-free job applicants? Almost all of them.

Sorry, but if Joe College wants to spend his day smoking weed and rejecting jobs 'beneath him' then he needs to spend some time behind bars, or picking up cans on the side of the road.

There's a tradition of paying back loans in this country, so that other people can then GET LOANS.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (HTdUD)

414 Ski like a Bono?

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (jjaLl)

415 412 Golf like A Kennedy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (LTHVh)

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Make sandwiches like a Kennedy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (mC1ZI)

416 Golf like A Kennedy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (LTHVh)
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But don't drive like a Kennedy.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (sBOL1)

417 The Kennedys sure have killed a bunch of people.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (LTHVh)

418 Golf like A Kennedy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (LTHVh)

Ouch!

Posted by: Martha Moxley at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (rF0hx)

419 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (mpXpK)

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You know...it would be easier to take Fort Sumter this time.

No federal troops.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:06 PM (mC1ZI)


Not true. Just try walking somewhere other than a designated pathway, and you'll see how rough those park rangers can get.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (TOk1P)

420 I've said it before...if Trump wants an economic stimulus, then he should abrogate all student loan debt.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 21, 2017 01:03 PM (woKq6)



Yeah, no.

We had to work hard and sacrifice to pay off student loans.

Others can to.

It's not my fault if you chose to pay $200K for a degree in Transsexual Film Criticism.

All buttercups must suck it up.


Or repay me for my loan repayment plus interest.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (NyJwR)

421 msn has olberman screeching about palin , chris rock and the other guy standing in front of Hillary's portrait.

called them trailer trash.

I don't remember ANYTHING being said when Obamas minions were standing in front of Bush's portrait flipping birdies.

of course.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (4lrrm)

422 So, SF is really without power?
Sweaty hipsters unaffected.

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (A/Djk)

423 419 Not true. Just try walking somewhere other than a designated pathway, and you'll see how rough those park rangers can get.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (TOk1P)

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There are no paths and there are like 3 rangers at a time on the island.

I think I could take it with the bed ridden residents of an old folks home.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (mC1ZI)

424 I wish that I could fly, Into the sky, So very high, Just like a dragonfly...oops!

Posted by: JFK, Jr. at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (gbWkA)

425 I hate to sound like a commie leftard, but honestly, the stock market is just a big casino for super rich people. The dow is a measure of how more or less awesomely rich those super rich people are this afternoon.

It's all pretty silly, too. So much money is gained or lost every day just on shoot from the hip assumptions and guesses. Millions of dollars are blown every day because somebody jumps at a shadow. That's why it's so easy for jerks with enough cash like Soros and that banjo idiot to manipulate the markets any way they want.


Posted by: Agent Cooper at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (1zARK)

426 Thank you, Country Boy. I think I looked at ToS before but was hesitant because access requires an application.

I should look at it again. Could come in handy if my balance drops below $1000.

Posted by: Emmie at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (xVuS6)

427 SC won't allow that? You should secede, Vic.

He tried that once. Didn't work. Have him tell you the story about how he short-sheeted Jeff Davis one night.

Now he only wants to secede from his boozehound neighbor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (X6fMO)

428 I don't want to think about maximizing return on my $275 net worth. Can we get our French whore back?

Posted by: Slo-Pitch Whiffer at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (5JlYa)

429 Treat your daughter's relatively mild mental illness like a Kennedy.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (TOk1P)

430 This talk about investments makes my butt hurt. Well, SOMETHING makes my butt hurt.

Posted by: Rod Blagojevich at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (97XyN)

431 420
Yeah, no.

We had to work hard and sacrifice to pay off student loans.

Others can to.

It's not my fault if you chose to pay $200K for a degree in Transsexual Film Criticism.

All buttercups must suck it up.


Or repay me for my loan repayment plus interest.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (NyJwR)

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It's hard to imagine a way to turn my wife away from the Democratic Party forever than to have student loans forgiven right after we've paid all of ours off (we're years away, but still).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:11 PM (mC1ZI)

432 if Trump wants an economic stimulus, then he should abrogate all student loan debt.

That's the same thinking that says Unemployment Checks are stimulus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:11 PM (LTHVh)

433 >>willow, luckily my kids don't seem to like Cadbury eggs, whereas I do.
It's interesting that the Easter bunny always brings some for them.


Heh, same for me, except it's jelly belly jelly beans. My son hates them, but oddly enough, they keep showing up on Easter along with his preferred picks.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:11 PM (NOIQH)

434 Not to pick nits but although I agree with you in theory that 5 year graph shows a pretty good correlation between the two.
I'd rather see the Wilshire vs the Dow to agree with you more.
I want some solid insider info to love you.

Posted by: Hopped Up On Something at April 21, 2017 11:32 AM (fo0go)

Late to this party, but it seems that the Dow tracks pretty well with both the S&P and Wilshire indices. Thing is, none of them are predictive, especially when it comes to a single stock.

Most of my meagre investment capital is currently in some junior mining and oil companies, and either they win big, or lose big.

Cool hash, BTW!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (0deF2)

435 Sitting here talking about all this bourbon has made me want to go hit the rocking chair.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (mpXpK)

436 I think my old French whore is dead.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (LTHVh)

437 The South shall rise again! Too soon?

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (gbWkA)

438 The magazine version recently did a cover story on shemales.

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Reminds me of my wife's aunt. She'd been married several times (to some real losers) when she decided that she was a lesbian and had several girlfriends. She had one long-term "relationship" with a big bull dyke, "Jane", whom I didn't like at all. Jane left several years ago.

So the other night aunt was driving down the road and lost it. She struck two cars without realizing it and when the cops stopped her she was out of it. Although she's a heavy drinker, she wasn't intoxicated and we suspect a mini-stroke or some such. She, however, has another theory. She thinks Jane cast a black magic spell on her.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)

439
I think my old French whore is dead.



We covered this, she's just faking it and has stolen your wallet.
Please, do try to keep up...

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 01:13 PM (A/Djk)

440 Giving grad students free cash so they can keep being grad students so they can keep getting free cash? Sounds like a winner to me!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2017 01:13 PM (lwiT4)

441 I hate to sound like a commie leftard, but honestly, the stock market is just a big casino for super rich people.




Posted by: Agent Cooper
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I don't consider myself super rich, but I am a part owner of several companies in the Dow, and they pay me a portion of their profits every quarter. And, those payments increase each year faster than inflation.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:13 PM (7ZVPa)

442 435 Sitting here talking about all this bourbon has made me want to go hit the rocking chair.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (mpXpK)

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Sorry

Or

You're Welcome

?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (mC1ZI)

443 Actually seceding wouldn't do any good anyway since the laws are all State laws.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (mpXpK)

444 Not true. Just try walking somewhere other than a designated pathway, and you'll see how rough those park rangers can get.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:09 PM (TOk1P)

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There are no paths and there are like 3 rangers at a time on the island.

I think I could take it with the bed ridden residents of an old folks home.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (mC1ZI)


I've never been to Sumter, but I find it hard to believe there are not designated pathways.

Every National Park Service site has designated pathways, and there's a little sign (it's brown) that says "Do not walk anywhere other than designated pathways" or other words to that effect.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm only saying I will never ever ever believe another word you ever say.

Ever.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (TOk1P)

445
msn has olberman screeching about palin , chris rock and the other guy standing in front of Hillary's portrait.

Kid Rock and Ted Nugent

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (lKyWE)

446 Some people have all the fun. You're going to drink like a Kennedy. Others are going to f**k like a Kennedy.

Me, I'm going to drive like a Kennedy. Or worse, ride in the back seat of a car like a Kennedy.


Fly like a Kennedy.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:05 PM (LTHVh)


Ski like a Kennedy.

Boat like a Kennedy.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Join the Conspiracy of the Month Club at the Outrage Outlet! Flavored Tinfoil in May! at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (hLRSq)

447 She thinks Jane cast a black magic spell on her.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)
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Every family should have a colorful aunt.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2017 01:15 PM (lwiT4)

448 WTF!!!!!!

Posted by: WTF at April 21, 2017 01:15 PM (iWo0u)

449 444

I've never been to Sumter, but I find it hard to believe there are not designated pathways.

Every National Park Service site has designated pathways, and there's a little sign (it's brown) that says "Do not walk anywhere other than designated pathways" or other words to that effect.

I'm not calling you a liar or anything, I'm only saying I will never ever ever believe another word you ever say.

Ever.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (TOk1P)

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Well, I went three years ago, and we could walk wherever we wanted.

A ranger might have said something stern had I climbed on a cannon or scaled a wall, but again...the little girl who was the ranger in charge of my group wasn't much to deal with.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:15 PM (mC1ZI)

450 It's like the Negative Income Tax. Superficially, it seems to make sense, from a purely efficient point of view, but you might as well burn everything down if you enact it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:15 PM (LTHVh)

451 Kenny is dead?

Posted by: Eric Cartman at April 21, 2017 01:16 PM (97XyN)

452 male logic, ugh, thank you, you're right.
can't believe I couldn't think of nugents name.
anyway thanks.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:16 PM (4lrrm)

453 441 I hate to sound like a commie leftard, but honestly, the stock market is just a big casino for super rich people.

Posted by: Agent Cooper
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I don't consider myself super rich, but I am a part owner of several companies in the Dow, and they pay me a portion of their profits every quarter. And, those payments increase each year faster than inflation.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:13 PM (7ZVPa)



THIS. There are tens of millions of small time investors in the USA. I am one of them too.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 01:16 PM (ujg0T)

454 Rupert Murdoch bough National Geographic within the past few years.
Sadly, it's gone from tolerable - you can ignore the climate change stuff and still enjoy the other interesting stuff - to full-on, cover to cover Lefty crap. In addition to their recent gender issue, they did an issue on the "new Europeans" (read: ME refugees). We did not renew our geography-obsessed son's subscription.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (NOIQH)

455 Kenny G is dead?

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (A/Djk)

456 fky fk. and KID rock!

maybe I should go back to bed.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (4lrrm)

457 450 It's like the Negative Income Tax. Superficially, it seems to make sense, from a purely efficient point of view, but you might as well burn everything down if you enact it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:15 PM (LTHVh)

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Hey...let's let California try it!

Also, we need a constitutional amendment that strips a state of it's status as a state, returning it to a territory with a presidentially appointed governor, if the state declares bankruptcy.

Completely unrelated.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (mC1ZI)

458 Kenny is dead?

You bastards!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (LTHVh)

459 She, however, has another theory. She thinks Jane cast a black magic spell on her.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:12 PM (Nwg0u)
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Oh my. She sounds like fun. I'll bet family parties are a hoot.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (sBOL1)

460 This talk about investments makes my butt hurt. Well, SOMETHING makes my butt hurt.

Posted by: Rod Blagojevich at April 21, 2017 01:10 PM (97XyN)


I'm sure it's been said, many times, many ways, but poor Blago... his great crime was obviously not his use of his office for swindling and cheating. His great crime was besmirching the name of the Blessed B. Hussein Obama with his crass stank.

The same crime, with anyone else involved, would probably have never been prosecuted. Let alone made to rot in prison this long.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (TOk1P)

461 maybe I should go back to bed.
Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (4lrrm)
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Here. Have another Cadbury egg.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:18 PM (sBOL1)

462 If you are in the public sector, you are probably in the market. If you are in a union, you are probably in the market. If you have a step-dad who showed you financial newsletters and made you watch investment videos on a weekly basis, you are probably in the market.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2017 01:18 PM (lwiT4)

463 ty

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:18 PM (4lrrm)

464 453 THIS. There are tens of millions of small time investors in the USA. I am one of them too.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 01:16 PM (ujg0T)

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Every 401(k) too.

Plus, the market is what provides a huge source of capital to businesses to allow them new funding for expansions, R&D, and hiring.

You want economic growth? You allow companies to be traded publicly. (It's not the only way, but it's a great way.)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (mC1ZI)

465 I would go for a student loan debt forgiveness program that would forgive all a person's student loans if they served 8 years active duty military.

Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (gbWkA)

466 take a look at my Disqus link in my previous post.

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 11:46 AM (LQ1Q3)

This ain't no party; this ain't no Disqus!

(seriously, I avoid Disqus like I would a rabid honey badger; if you want people to read your stuff, put in on an accessible platform)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (0deF2)

467 >>maybe I should go back to bed.

If that's an option, go for it!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (NOIQH)

468 465 I would go for a student loan debt forgiveness program that would forgive all a person's student loans if they served 8 years active duty military.
Posted by: Strobe at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (gbWkA)

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They have that!

Except it's if you become a public school teacher.

Same thing, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (mC1ZI)

469 I would go for a student loan debt forgiveness program that would forgive all a person's student loans if they served 8 years active duty military.

Posted by: Strobe


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Isn't that the ROTC?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:20 PM (7ZVPa)

470 I would go for a student loan debt forgiveness program that would forgive all a person's student loans if they served 8 years active duty military.

Not me. Lose a limb or two and we can talk.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:20 PM (LTHVh)

471 Market as an indicator, so-so. I agree with using the broader indices. However, I have a number of train sidings nearby where they park excess cars. Usually a good predictor. Sidings have been close to empty since January. Not sure if there is a publicized metric that tracks train utilization or truck trailer utilization, but I'm all in the market at this point.

Posted by: Uncle Si at April 21, 2017 01:20 PM (ZLmoR)

472 I think my son was about 12 when he bought his first share of stock. Pfizer I think. His grandfather used to give him GE stock for his birthday.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2017 01:21 PM (lwiT4)

473 msn has olberman screeching about palin , chris rock and the other guy standing in front of Hillary's portrait.

--

Who was it that stood in front of Reagan's portrait for a picture a year or so ago while giving him the finger?

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 21, 2017 01:21 PM (+FSld)

474 Also, we need a constitutional amendment that strips a state of it's status as a state, returning it to a territory with a presidentially appointed governor, if the state declares bankruptcy.

Completely unrelated.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:17 PM (mC1ZI)



If CA reverted to (or more accurately changed to) Commonwealth Territory status, a la Puerto Rico, I would be great with it. Like Fineswine and Commielah represent me anyway.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at April 21, 2017 01:21 PM (ujg0T)

475 $1000 you lose access to real-time quotes.

The exchanges all charge for real-time data.

Last time I looked the options exchanges generated 1000's of times the message rate quote traffic of the stock exchanges.

Posted by: DaveA at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (FhXTo)

476 Fly like a Kennedy.

Posted by: LASue, now even more deplorable! at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (CLKfs)

477 >>>Here. Have another Cadbury egg.

Try not to think of the cream filling as snot!!!

Or man juice!!!

Don't do that! Just wipe it from your mind!

Just lick it ALL up!!! Num num num num num!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (7S8go)

478 Of course Disney is an industrial.

It manufactures bullshit.


Posted by: JAS at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (EX4Wr)

479 I have a number of train sidings nearby where they park excess cars. Usually a good predictor. Sidings have been close to empty since January.

Posted by: Uncle Si

--

That's because all of those trains are between me and my office.

Seriously, I got into Union Pacific at just the right time.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (7ZVPa)

480 Lady in Black, lol I don't know!
I have everydamned thing wrong with my previous comment, so now i'm trying to lay low.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (4lrrm)

481 473 msn has olberman screeching about palin , chris rock and the other guy standing in front of Hillary's portrait.

--

Who was it that stood in front of Reagan's portrait for a picture a year or so ago while giving him the finger?
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 21, 2017 01:21 PM (+FSld)

THAT'S DIFFERENT!

Posted by: Lefty Logic at April 21, 2017 01:23 PM (+c7tK)

482 At PJ Media: More arrests in Michigan for FGM, a doctor and his wife.

I am liking DJT's and Sessions' DoJ so far!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:23 PM (NOIQH)

483 but poor Blago

-
I learned the other day that Blago is visiting our great state of Colorado down Florence way.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:23 PM (Nwg0u)

484 Speaking of investing and TFG-

howzabout all of those poor retirees, etc who literally had their investments in GM and Dodge stolen overnight by Obama-

and given to his cronies.

That should've been an impeachment right there, straight out of the box.

How about a pay back for those folks who didn't do anything but obey the law and invest in American companies?

Not jackasses who of their own volition paid $300K for a degree in Oppression Studies.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 21, 2017 01:23 PM (NyJwR)

485 Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:14 PM (TOk1P)

================

Well, I went three years ago, and we could walk wherever we wanted.

A ranger might have said something stern had I climbed on a cannon or scaled a wall, but again...the little girl who was the ranger in charge of my group wasn't much to deal with.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:15 PM (mC1ZI)


Somebody underestimated that little girl ranger once. Climbed on a cannon.

It happened. One time.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:23 PM (TOk1P)

486
male logic, ugh, thank you, you're right. can't believe I couldn't think of nugents name. anyway thanks.
Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:16 PM (4lrrm)


You're welcome. Olberdouche didn't seem to have a probler with the picture of Obama with his feet up on the Resolute Desk did he

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 01:24 PM (lKyWE)

487 Try not to think of the cream filling as snot!!!



Or man juice!!!



Don't do that! Just wipe it from your mind!



Just lick it ALL up!!! Num num num num num!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 21, 2017 01:22 PM (7S8go)



Even as I'm laughing I'm thinking that's just plain mean.

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 01:24 PM (jjaLl)

488 maybe I should go back to bed.

Posted by: willow

===


We used to dream of having a bed.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 01:24 PM (9zO9Q)

489 I learned the other day that Blago is visiting our great state of Colorado down Florence way.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:23 PM (Nwg0u)


Oh that's so nice! Colorado is lovely. I hope he has a good view of the mountains.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:24 PM (TOk1P)

490 A FC-SZD SPDR, if you will.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at April 21, 2017 12:04 PM (9krrF)

SPQR didn't end well for me.

Posted by: Julius Caesar at April 21, 2017 01:24 PM (0deF2)

491 Or man juice!!!

Gentleman's Relish.

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at April 21, 2017 01:25 PM (LTHVh)

492 They have that!



Except it's if you become a public school teacher.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:19 PM (mC1ZI)
==========================

My daughter got a good percentage of her student loans cancelled because she went to teach at a university with a high percentage of "under-served" students.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 21, 2017 01:25 PM (lwiT4)

493 The New Republic: "The Handmaid's' Tale

I get Natasha, they can keep Meryl.

Posted by: DaveA at April 21, 2017 01:25 PM (FhXTo)

494 Mortimer, You don't have a bed?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:25 PM (4lrrm)

495 >>Who was it that stood in front of Reagan's portrait for a picture a year or so ago while giving him the finger?


It was some LGBT party Obama threw, so it was many LGBT activists who did those selfies. Love Wins!!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:26 PM (NOIQH)

496 I don't have a license to drive this economy.

Saw a job ad, for a place where I used to work. Offering $15/hr. That was the same starting rate as 10 years ago. Tell me things aren't fvcked up.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 21, 2017 01:26 PM (tHwdc)

497 Lizzy, it's obvious lgbt abc can never be trailer trash.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:26 PM (4lrrm)

498 Yes, the GM deal was literally a crime. The stockholders of a company know that if it goes bankrupt, they generally lose everything, but the GM bondholders (debt instruments) got screwed in favor of union stockholders, going against the entire history and legal framework of the market.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (7ZVPa)

499 If only there was some sort of Government organization that people could join that would help them pay off their student debt in exchange for some sort of service. The only thing vital to the nation I could think of would be some sort of military need....

Posted by: A.C. Clark at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (cfjq1)

500 Mortimer, You don't have a bed?

Posted by: willow
===

We had pile of brush. We used the pine branches for pillows and covered ourselves with dirt for warmth.

And we were grateful.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (9zO9Q)

501 AWW you powar bewrong me San Frawncisko.

Posted by: Kim, with the cute hair at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (gbWkA)

502 Willow, you could be right about Bush! I just kinda remembered 2 or 3 jacklegs giving Reagan the finger because something something AIDS. Wish I could remember who it was that did that. I think a little reminder to Keiffums is in order.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (+FSld)

503 Gentleman's Relish.
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at April 21, 2017 01:25 PM (LTHVh)

====

Baby batter.

Posted by: Uber Lyft Driver at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (/0I+8)

504 499 If only there was some sort of Government organization that people could join that would help them pay off their student debt in exchange for some sort of service. The only thing vital to the nation I could think of would be some sort of military need....
Posted by: A.C. Clark at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (cfjq1)

=================

"Wrong answer. We were looking for young children indoctrination specialists."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (mC1ZI)

505 502 Willow, you could be right about Bush! I just kinda remembered 2 or 3 jacklegs giving Reagan the finger because something something AIDS. Wish I could remember who it was that did that. I think a little reminder to Keiffums is in order.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at April 21, 2017 01:27 PM (+FSld)

===============

Didn't you know that Reagan personally created AIDS and injected it into gay people?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:28 PM (mC1ZI)

506 What have Cadbury eggs ever done to you all to earn such treatment.

Reprobates.

Posted by: bluebell at April 21, 2017 01:28 PM (sBOL1)

507 AoS is my go to place for new brew names! Today I've harvested 'Jane's Black Magic Spell' & 'Badass Little Girl Ranger'. Thanks 'rons!

Posted by: Hipster Microbrewer at April 21, 2017 01:28 PM (bc2Lc)

508 Mortimer, chin up, at least you didn't have to walk ten miles in the snow, barefoot to find it.

or did you?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:28 PM (4lrrm)

509 "What Happens When You Let Gay Philly Activists Into the White House"


http://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/06/22/
gay-activists-give-ronald-reagan-finger-white-house/

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:29 PM (NOIQH)

510 And in cognitive dissonance news, from The New Republic: "The

Handmaid's' Tale Is a Warning to Conservative Women - Hulu's adaptation

of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the

patriarchy.

====


Let me put my patriarchy in you.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 12:47 PM (9zO9Q)

I read the Handmaid's Tale, and this ain't no handmaid's tale.

Or tail.
Take care of that patriarchy, Mortimer - you may need it someday.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 21, 2017 01:29 PM (tHwdc)

511 I don't have a license to drive this economy.

-
Willow has a double O license to kill threads.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:30 PM (Nwg0u)

512 Jane's Black Magic Spell


Please tell us you'll make it a good porter or stout... and not another IPA.

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 01:30 PM (A/Djk)

513 Jun 23, 2012аи GAY ACTIVISTS VISITING WHITE HOUSE TAKE PHOTOS OF THEMSELVES FLIPPING OFF REAGAN PORTRAIT Matthew "Matty" Hart, left, Mark Segal, center, and Zoe

etc etc..

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:30 PM (4lrrm)

514 Who was it that stood in front of Reagan's portrait for a picture a year or so ago while giving him the finger?

I want to be president for one day so I can call a press conference in the Rose Garden and put my foot through TFGs portrait, piss on it and then tell the MFM fuckers that if that dog-eating crackhead wants an official portrait, he can cut down on the fucking choom and pay for it himself.

Why, yes, I am in a mood today, now that you ask.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 01:31 PM (X6fMO)

515 Stay classy Left.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/263068/

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2017 01:31 PM (r/0kC)

516 >>> We had pile of brush. We used the pine branches for pillows and covered ourselves with dirt for warmth.

>>> And we were grateful.

Of course anyone would be grateful for a luxury like dirt.

Posted by: fluffy of York at April 21, 2017 01:31 PM (jw2Xw)

517 anyway did I miss palins, kid rocks, or nugents bird?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:31 PM (4lrrm)

518
Just think about what an economic stimulus it would be if everyone had all of their loans forgiven; car, credit card, mortgage. Everything except student loans.

Why we'd be in the greatest boom economy ever! Employers would be begging for employees and the students with loans could get two or three of them and pay back their loans in no time flat.

I like my idea.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 01:32 PM (HTdUD)

519 Hulu's adaptation
of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the patriarchy.>>>

You'll like our adaptation better.

Posted by: Pronhub at April 21, 2017 01:32 PM (r5KeJ)

520 Blackout in San Fran. You want sanctuary for invading third worlders? Enjoy some third world electricity.

Posted by: Electroschadenfreude at April 21, 2017 01:32 PM (oD0Pp)

521 yeah and the shthd Olberman Should be reminded.

of the Trailer Trash that are Obama's greatest supporters.

including himself.

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:32 PM (4lrrm)

522 I try wipeout US Navy with electronic bomba, hit San Francisco by accident. Big boo boo. Prosti

Posted by: Vlad at April 21, 2017 01:32 PM (gbWkA)

523 There was a Bizarro-World Handmaiden's Tale made-for-tv movie back in the '70s.

Planet Earth (film) http://bit.ly/2oy03Do


You won't be surprised to learn that it was a Gene Roddenberry joint.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (LTHVh)

524
We had pile of brush. We used the pine branches for pillows and covered ourselves with dirt for warmth.

You had pine branches? We had cactus

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (lKyWE)

525 >>You'll like our adaptation better.


Posted by: Pronhub


Heh. The *real* counterpoint is a little Afghani film called "Osama".
Gave me nightmares.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (NOIQH)

526 AoS is my go to place for new brew names! Today I've harvested 'Jane's Black Magic Spell' & 'Badass Little Girl Ranger'. Thanks 'rons!
Posted by: Hipster Microbrewer



Don't forget the ever popular "Baby Gravy".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (rCGpC)

527 >>>>I would go for a student loan debt forgiveness program that would forgive all a person's student loans if they served 8 years active duty military.

Just curious, why 8 years? Why not more or less?

Posted by: Max Power at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (q177U)

528 Anyone got some Febreeze? This thread is getting a little ripe.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Join the Conspiracy of the Month Club at the Outrage Outlet! Flavored Tinfoil in May! at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (hLRSq)

529 519 Hulu's adaptation
of Margaret Atwood's novel lays bare the horrors of collusion with the patriarchy.>>>

You'll like our adaptation better.
Posted by: Pronhub at April 21, 2017 01:32 PM (r5KeJ)

"The Handjob's Tale"

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 01:35 PM (7HtZB)

530 I have a quite small nest egg in brass, lead, blues steel, and the addresses of neighbors who put out Hillary lawn signs.

That's my diversification plan.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 21, 2017 01:35 PM (u82oZ)

531 Is is wrong to wish disaster on your brother and sister-in-law?

It probably is. But I hate them both right now with a burning resentment.

I blame my Russian blood. It wants to influence their lives. In a bad way.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 21, 2017 01:35 PM (tHwdc)

532 Winona made me an omelet once using the Cadbury cream eggs. I thought it would be disgusting, but because it was made with love it was delicious. Just don't tell her about spinach pancakes!!

Posted by: Banana Splits Guy at April 21, 2017 01:35 PM (7S8go)

533 Hi all... what's new?

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 21, 2017 01:35 PM (O2RFr)

534 You can't concentrate on guns and ammo only. You must diversify with survival food, booze, seed, and 'cat' pictures. By the way, in about a week Eromero will have been a high school graduate 50 annos, amigos.

Posted by: Eromero at April 21, 2017 01:36 PM (zLDYs)

535 I miss the old Windows Eustachian tubes screen saver.

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 12:30 PM (7HtZB)

Euston Station isn't on the Tube; it's part of Britrail.

Posted by: Julius Caesar at April 21, 2017 01:36 PM (0deF2)

536 533 Hi all... what's new?
Posted by: It's Me donna at April 21, 2017 01:35 PM (O2RFr)

==============

Stocks, bourbon, civil war, Handmaid's Tale, student loan debt forgiveness

The usual.

Although, someone just mentioned Gene Roddenberry. It HAS been a while since we had a good Star Trek thread...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:36 PM (mC1ZI)

537 Pine branches? Cactus?
We slept uncovered in small shallow pits in the sand.

Posted by: Weasel at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (C8aCP)

538 No student loan forgiveness. They signed their name knowing it was a loan. They should pay it back with interest just like any other loan. I don't give a shit if they blew it on a worthless degree.

Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (Fmupd)

539 Boss just told me and the shop guys to take the afternoon off and run up a bar bill.

Sometimes life ain't so bad ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (ATQUV)

540 You can't concentrate on guns and ammo only. You
must diversify with survival food, booze, seed, and 'cat' pictures. By
the way, in about a week Eromero will have been a high school graduate
50 annos, amigos.


Posted by: Eromero at April 21, 2017 01:36 PM (zLDYs)

I have protein bars and prints of cat photos. I'm going to make a killing.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (tHwdc)

541 I can't imagine Hulu's version of "THT" will be any better than the old movie.

It was just s-o-o-o-o-o stupid and absurd that I rolled my eyes so hard-

they fell out of my head, rolled out the front door then down to McDonald's where they drank a couple of McFlurries to kill time until "The Handmaiden's Tale" was over then rolled back home and into my eye sockets again.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (NyJwR)

542 523 There was a Bizarro-World Handmaiden's Tale made-for-tv movie back in the '70s.

Planet Earth (film) http://bit.ly/2oy03Do


You won't be surprised to learn that it was a Gene Roddenberry joint.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:34 PM (LTHVh)

Methinks Majel slipped him the brown acid between the end of TOS and the first Star Trek Movie...

Posted by: Jackal at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (aIuRZ)

543 Weasel

Sand! How we wished for sand rather than lava.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 21, 2017 01:38 PM (u82oZ)

544 Boss just told me and the shop guys to take the afternoon off and run up a bar bill.



Sometimes life ain't so bad ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (ATQUV)

I'll be right there.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 21, 2017 01:38 PM (tHwdc)

545 Slow news day?

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always asks... at April 21, 2017 01:39 PM (vtcmf)

546 Old Gene just wanted to make sure women stayed loose and had "health services" available so he could bang them by the dozen.

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2017 01:39 PM (r/0kC)

547 Sand! How we wished for sand rather than lava.

Luxury! What we would have given for lava. 27 of us huddled under a blanket of ticks and fleas for warmth.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (LTHVh)

548 Take care of that patriarchy, Mortimer - you may need it someday.


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess
====

It will need a can of WD-40.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (9zO9Q)

549 I took some license with a doubble O back in the day.

Posted by: Pussy Galore at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (l1wsb)

550 Sand! How we wished for sand rather than lava.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 21, 2017 01:38 PM


Oh, kwitcher bitchin'... At least it was warm.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (p+Wdc)

551 Mortimer, chin up, at least you didn't have to walk ten miles in the snow, barefoot to find it.

or did you?

Posted by: willow at April 21, 2017 01:28 PM (4lrrm)


Looxury! Oh, what we would have given to have snow to walk barefoot in....

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (TOk1P)

552 550 Sand! How we wished for sand rather than lava.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 21, 2017 01:38 PM

Oh, kwitcher bitchin'... At least it was warm.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (p+Wdc)

===============

It's rough, and coarse, and gets everywhere.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:41 PM (mC1ZI)

553 It will need a can of WD-40.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (9zO9Q)

Bear fat.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at April 21, 2017 01:41 PM (tHwdc)

554 >>No student loan forgiveness. They signed their name knowing it was a
loan. They should pay it back with interest just like any other loan. I
don't give a shit if they blew it on a worthless degree.



Yeah, and not just a worthless degree. These loans have enabled stretching out college to 5, 6, 7 years and they use some of the loan money to pay for luxuries like iphones, vacations, etc. It's allowed many students to live in a manner that their future job (based on degree selection) could never support.
Why should we forgive that? It would teach all the wrong lessons.

Ideally, the debt should be transferred to the schools that encouraged this nonsense (Instapundit's idea).

Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (NOIQH)

555 "Just think about what an economic stimulus it would be if everyone had
all of their loans forgiven; car, credit card, mortgage. Everything
except student loans."

I'm being serious: what if every US Citizen were cut a check by the Gov't for their share of the 2008 bailout that was given to the banks instead? Those checks would've been 6 figures. The citizens could then use that check to pay off their own debt (helping the banks) or for whatever they wanted to. Then let the bad banks fail and new ones open to take their place. How would that not have been better than the bailout? Yeah it's communist or whatever but in my mind it's no different than giving trillions directly to the banks and an infinitely better solution.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (UBzPO)

556 Stocks, bourbon, civil war, Handmaid's Tale, student loan debt forgiveness

Handmaidens tale was truly bizarre...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (O2RFr)

557 Guns and ammo? Don't forget magazines!

Any time I think about buying a new gun I ask myself: do you have enough magazines to go with what you've already got?

On that note, Midway's running some pretty good mag sales right now.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (rNxNN)

558 I hope Ace reports of Venezuela. Complere mess there. Rioting. Marching on the capital. People being tear gassed and killed. This is of course in addition to no food. Socialism stinks

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (fDdVG)

559 Willow, know your Monty Python memes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (TOk1P)

560 Try sharing one birthday suit between 6 siblings!!!

Posted by: Gary L. at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (jjaLl)

561 554 >>No student loan forgiveness. They signed their name knowing it was a
loan. They should pay it back with interest just like any other loan. I
don't give a shit if they blew it on a worthless degree.



Yeah, and not just a worthless degree. These loans have enabled stretching out college to 5, 6, 7 years and they use some of the loan money to pay for luxuries like iphones, vacations, etc. It's allowed many students to live in a manner that their future job (based on degree selection) could never support.
Why should we forgive that? It would teach all the wrong lessons.

Ideally, the debt should be transferred to the schools that encouraged this nonsense (Instapundit's idea).
Posted by: Lizzy at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (NOIQH)

================

Off the top of my head:

A debt is delinquint for 1 year: the school is on the hook for 20%.

It goes up year over year, 20% a year, until the school is on the hook for 80%, and is like that until the loan is paid off.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (mC1ZI)

562 Willow, know your Monty Python memes:

My favorite is the Lumberjack song...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (O2RFr)

563 You can't concentrate on guns and ammo only. You
must diversify with survival food, booze, seed, and 'cat' pictures. By the way, in about a week Eromero will have been a high school graduate
50 annos, amigos.

Posted by: Eromero at April 21, 2017 01:36 PM (zLDYs)

I have protein bars and prints of cat photos. I'm going to make a killing.
Posted by: Miley



Pro tip: Send ammo. Never trade it. Otherwise, it'll be sent back.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (rCGpC)

564 539 Boss just told me and the shop guys to take the afternoon off and run up a bar bill.

Sometimes life ain't so bad ...
Posted by: ScoggDog at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (ATQUV)



This is a plan I can really get behind!

Posted by: Fried Baloney Sandwich at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (ZG1OC)

565 538

Are there no prisons. Are there no workhouses.

Posted by: Mr. Screwge at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (l1wsb)

566 538 No student loan forgiveness. They signed their name knowing it was a loan. They should pay it back with interest just like any other loan. I don't give a shit if they blew it on a worthless degree.
Posted by: Soona at April 21, 2017 01:37 PM (Fmupd)

Yep, making people who didn't go to College... who had no say in the process... pay for it through the Tax system?

As a Non College Gradiate? Who has to compete in the Job market with them...

Yeah... I've got a problem with that...

Posted by: Don Q., at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (NgKpN)

567 I worked and paid my tuition. Granted I lived in the frat house for $65 / month and I went to an in-state University so I wasn't paying $10,000 a semester. My only purpose of going to college was to get that stupid piece of paper that you needed to get a white collar job. If I could do it all over again I would have just become a fireman like most of the rest of my family. I'd be retired now on a pretty good pension starting a second career somewhere or my own business ( most of my firemen relatives had a side business when they were with the fire department) .

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (X8p7j)

568 But...but...Venezuela is a model society!

Posted by: SJW Snowflakes at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (vtcmf)

569 566 Yep, making people who didn't go to College... who had no say in the process... pay for it through the Tax system?

As a Non College Gradiate? Who has to compete in the Job market with them...

Yeah... I've got a problem with that...
Posted by: Don Q., at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (NgKpN)

===============

Require the funding to come through their endowment fund.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (mC1ZI)

570 Methinks Majel slipped him the brown acid between the end of TOS and the first Star Trek Movie...

That wasn't the only brown she slipped him. According to The Fifty-Year Mission, an oral history of ST, one day Roddenberry told one of the TOS secretaries, "You know, you can go from front to back, but you can't go from back to front. Majel's got a terrific infection."

The Great Bird was a sleaze.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (X6fMO)

571 If we had snow we could walk barefoot in the snow if we had feet.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Join the Conspiracy of the Month Club at the Outrage Outlet! Flavored Tinfoil in May! at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (hLRSq)

572 I wrote to my Representatives back in 2009 and asked them to introduce a bill that would allow people a one-time withdrawal from the IRAs without tax or penalty. This would have really helped the housing market and stimulated the economy without directly using tax dollars.


Nothing came of it, of course. Politicians are economically illiterate.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (LTHVh)

573 558 I hope Ace reports of Venezuela. Complere mess there. Rioting. Marching on the capital. People being tear gassed and killed. This is of course in addition to no food. Socialism stinks
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (fDdVG)

But.... Russians! Trump!..... uh....

Posted by: MSM at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (NgKpN)

574
hope Ace reports of Venezuela. Complere mess there. Rioting. Marching on the capital. People being tear gassed and killed. This is of course in addition to no food. Socialism stinks
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (fDdVG)


The government is handing out 400,000 rifles to "loyal citizens" which is not a good sign

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (lKyWE)

575
Luxury! What we would have given for lava. 27 of us huddled under a blanket of ticks and fleas for warmth.
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Ticks and fleas, eh? You were lucky.

Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (9zO9Q)

576 It will need a can of WD-40.


Posted by: Mortimer - Finish Her at April 21, 2017 01:40 PM (9zO9Q)

Bear fat.
Posted by: Miley



Fur oil.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (rCGpC)

577 568 But...but...Venezuela is a model society!
Posted by: SJW Snowflakes at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (vtcmf)

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"If only those imperalistic scum Americans had just kept buying Venezualen oil for unrealistic prices, Venezuela would be in great shape!

It's all America's fault!"
-Very smart college student who's ignoring all of her finals but has that gender studies course in the bag

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:46 PM (mC1ZI)

578 Willow, know your Monty Python memes:

My favorite is the Lumberjack song...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (O2RFr)


For some of us, not a Monty Python meme, but a way of life.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

579 Invade me, you damn steenking Yanquis scum!!!

Posted by: Little Nicky Maduro at April 21, 2017 01:46 PM (l1wsb)

580 568 But...but...Venezuela is a model society!
Posted by: SJW Snowflakes at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (vtcmf)

No, Venezuela has a lot of hot models.

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (7HtZB)

581 I'm being serious: what if every US Citizen were cut a check by the Gov't for their share of the 2008 bailout that was given to the banks instead? Those checks would've been 6 figures.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM

--

The flaw in your plan was that every US citizen didn't make campaign contributions. Who do you think our representatives work for?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (7ZVPa)

582 578 Willow, know your Monty Python memes:

My favorite is the Lumberjack song...

Posted by: It's Me donna at April 21, 2017 01:43 PM (O2RFr)


For some of us, not a Monty Python meme, but a way of life.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 21, 2017 01:46 PM (TOk1P)

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I don't want to know what you're wearing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (mC1ZI)

583 Venezuela is 100% no true Scotsman at this point. Useless to argue with the lefties about it.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (rNxNN)

584 583 Venezuela is 100% no true Scotsman at this point. Useless to argue with the lefties about it.
Posted by: Chupacabra at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (rNxNN)

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It was the sole true Scotsman a decade ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (mC1ZI)

585 Fur oil.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (rCGpC)



What I would give to have some fur to rub oil on!

Posted by: The Chick In This Morning''s Art Thread at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (ZG1OC)

586 It was the sole true Scotsman a decade ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (mC1ZI)


Yeah. Funny, that.

Posted by: Chupacabra at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (rNxNN)

587 If I could do it all over again I would have just
become a fireman like most of the rest of my family. I'd be retired now
on a pretty good pension starting a second career somewhere or my own
business ( most of my firemen relatives had a side business when they
were with the fire department) .

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 01:44 PM (X8p7j)

No offense but what you describe is precisely what's gotten us in this mess to begin with.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (UBzPO)

588
No, Venezuela has a lot of hot models.
Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (7HtZB)


And a fat one

Posted by: Deplrable Male Logic at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (lKyWE)

589 If I could do it all over again I would have just become a fireman like most of the rest of my family. I'd be retired now on a pretty good pension starting a second career somewhere or my own business ( most of my firemen relatives had a side business when they were with the fire department) .

Posted by: Jack Sock


One of the wealthiest blue collar people I know did just that. Fireman but moonlighted. Lost a bunch in divorce but recovered. Sweet pension now.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 01:49 PM (HTdUD)

590 570 Methinks Majel slipped him the brown acid between the end of TOS and the first Star Trek Movie...

That wasn't the only brown she slipped him. According to The Fifty-Year Mission, an oral history of ST, one day Roddenberry told one of the TOS secretaries, "You know, you can go from front to back, but you can't go from back to front. Majel's got a terrific infection."

The Great Bird was a sleaze.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 21, 2017 01:45 PM (X6fMO)

Yeah, I've heard that about him. He was like a walking Hollywood stereotype, "Casting Couch" and all.

Posted by: Jackal at April 21, 2017 01:49 PM (aIuRZ)

591 The government is spending about 40% more per person on an inflation adjusted basis since Obama took office (though it started rising when W became President).

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 01:49 PM (LQ1Q3)

592 591 The government is spending about 40% more per person on an inflation adjusted basis since Obama took office (though it started rising when W became President).

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 01:49 PM (LQ1Q3)

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Who was running Congress?

Since Congress actually writes budgets, it's probably the more pertinent question.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:50 PM (mC1ZI)

593 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:42 PM (UBzPO)

Your math may be a little off.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 01:51 PM (X8p7j)

594 Venezuela is 100% no true Scotsman at this point. Useless to argue with the lefties about it.

-
I love how the lefties deny that North Korea is a communist state. It's a no true Scotsman state.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doctor of Thinkology at April 21, 2017 01:51 PM (Nwg0u)

595 The flaw in your plan was that every US citizen
didn't make campaign contributions. Who do you think our
representatives work for?



Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 21, 2017 01:47 PM (7ZVPa)

Bingo. The banks were bailed out because banks finance campaigns. Full stop. Remember the 2008 crash happened about a month before the elections... That was not a coincidence.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:52 PM (UBzPO)

596 Who was running Congress?

Since Congress actually writes budgets





Since when?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 01:52 PM (rCGpC)

597 Some guys on Rush now using helium to sound like a little girl in order to score free Rush Revere gear!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 21, 2017 01:52 PM (jjaLl)

598 59 One thing he did was make the actresses model the skimpy costumes they made for Kirk's pumpkin of the week.

Posted by: steevy at April 21, 2017 01:52 PM (r/0kC)

599 596 Who was running Congress?

Since Congress actually writes budgets





Since when?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 21, 2017 01:52 PM (rCGpC)

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Well...yeah...

They should probably do that.

You know what might make the process easier? Instead of one huge budget, individual budgets for every department.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:53 PM (mC1ZI)

600 Nah. Debtors prison for college graduates who refuse to pay down their loans in any year. Do you know how many businesses can't find drug-free job applicants? Almost all of them.

Sorry, but if Joe College wants to spend his day smoking weed and rejecting jobs 'beneath him' then he needs to spend some time behind bars, or picking up cans on the side of the road.

There's a tradition of paying back loans in this country, so that other people can then GET LOANS.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (HTdUD)

Cut, jib, newsletter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2017 01:53 PM (0deF2)

601 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:48 PM (UBzPO)

No offense because I did nothing wrong.

Posted by: Jack Sock at April 21, 2017 01:54 PM (X8p7j)

602 We can has nood?
Perhaps how Venezuelastan is in shambles for the second day and it's gloriously entertaining.

Posted by: IP at April 21, 2017 01:55 PM (A/Djk)

603 To link this thread to the last one...




The reason that a small number of stocks cannot really serve as a proxy for the whole market is that anything to do with money is not normally distributed. More specifically, underlying market volatility is not normally distributed.





Instead, such things have a fat-tailed distribution of one sort or another (fat tailed like the prostitute in the last post).





The Black-Sholes model for pricing derivatives that is the basis for most financial modeling unfortunately assumes a normal distribution. This gives a good approximation of market prices and values right up to the moment that events force prices into the tails of the model. Then all bets are off and losses will far, far exceed any estimates.


Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2017 01:56 PM (9nCnN)

604 Get the government completely out of the student loan business, or at least cap it at $5k per year or so. Instead the government should have scholarships for nursing and physician students to increase the supply of medical professionals.

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 01:56 PM (LQ1Q3)

605 I got your DACA repeal right here.

Posted by: PDT at April 21, 2017 01:56 PM (fqERy)

606 Public unions should be abolished. The firefighter pension scam is one of the worst. All it would take is one EO signed by Trump reversing the one JFK signed.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at April 21, 2017 01:57 PM (UBzPO)

607 Nood Ace

Posted by: josephistan at April 21, 2017 01:57 PM (7HtZB)

608
Hi! Remember me?

Posted by: $19,883,141,334,480.32 at April 21, 2017 01:58 PM (9zO9Q)

609 592 591 The government is spending about 40% more per person on an inflation adjusted basis since Obama took office (though it started rising when W became President).

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 01:49 PM (LQ1Q3)

===============

Who was running Congress?

Since Congress actually writes budgets, it's probably the more pertinent question.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at April 21, 2017 01:50 PM (mC1ZI)

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Pedophile Hastart and other Repubs. Plenty of blame to go around.

Posted by: MAGA at April 21, 2017 01:59 PM (LQ1Q3)

610 Two other ideas on how to get rid of student debt...

1. Major in something marketable.
Get a job.
Pay off debt.

2. Major in wymynz studies.
Spend weekends wearing a weird hat and screaming foul things at other humans.
Hope someone dies and leaves you money.





Posted by: LASue, now even more deplorable! at April 21, 2017 01:59 PM (CLKfs)

611 Public unions should be abolished. The firefighter pension scam is one
of the worst. All it would take is one EO signed by Trump reversing the
one JFK signed.


Firemen are paid at a municipal level, not federal.

Posted by: fluffy at April 21, 2017 02:00 PM (jw2Xw)

612 Newbie Newbee New!

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Join the Conspiracy of the Month Club at the Outrage Outlet! Flavored Tinfoil in May! at April 21, 2017 02:01 PM (hLRSq)

613 Yeah, diversification is the ticket. You betcha. And like a good little investor, I made sure that my holdings - paltry though they be - were diversified. My hedge against sector failure, the experts all told me.

At least up until they crashed the whole freakin' economy in 2008, and I took my across-the-board hit, like the rest of us dumb schmucks. Yeah, the experts did that.

What a bunch of air holes.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 21, 2017 02:04 PM (o7l6R)

614 There's a tradition of paying back loans in this country, so that other people can then GET LOANS.



Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at April 21, 2017 01:08 PM (HTdUD)



Cut, jib, newsletter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 21, 2017 01:53 PM (0deF2)


As admirable as that sentiment is, and as stupid as the idea of student loan amnesty is, it is not the American tradition to always honor debts. We have differed from Europe on that point since our founding. Walter Russell Mead gives a pretty good overview of the American view of debt in his paper The Jacksonian Tradition.



I personally think it was a large mistake when Congress and Clinton made student loans non-dischargable debt back in the 90's. It wildly distorted the incentives to loan students money even for degrees that would never earn them enough to pay back those loans.

Posted by: redbanzai at April 21, 2017 02:05 PM (9nCnN)

615 Bitcoin, Ether

Posted by: Derptastic at April 21, 2017 02:05 PM (OOzGp)

616 what -- chartography? I try to keep my zerohedge and ace worlds separate. Worlds Collide, Jerry. Worlds collide!

Posted by: Reverse Polish Notation at April 21, 2017 02:08 PM (QBQkV)

617 "large mistake when Congress and Clinton made student loans non-dischargable debt back in the 90's."

Not a mistake if you want to nationalize the debt and create a divide between people who are near retirement or retired and people who owe the student loans.

When they talked about triangulating this is what they meant.

I think Satan himself inspired his boy BJ Clinton.

Posted by: Ok at April 21, 2017 02:49 PM (OE5e7)

618 "You want economic growth? You allow companies to be traded publicly. (It's not the only way, but it's a great way.)

Getting the general public "invested" sounds fine, and those mutual funds (of mine) did great from '82 to '99. But easy money policy started to prop up markets, valuations are propped up based on what? Maybe the "normal" PE for a good company would be 4, not 24. But the Ponzi scheme aspect put everyone in, and as long as they stay for life and pass their portfolio on, those invested can be (relatively) rich, doing nothing.

The manipulation and economic policy makes for scams and corruption, Fannie Freddie sell junk as AAA, bubbles form and billionaires get bailouts and the bubbles stay inflated. Now all currencies are fiat, the "real" saver or man that invests in his own company can hardly compete against conglomerates with government backing and an ability to hire slaves and pollute in foreign lands.

Local banks, on the other hand, know their borrowers and demand a sound business plan and maybe collateral. But the too big to fail/jail banks were able to buy up solid banks, even though they screwed up. And now they pay 0% interest and fed policy pushes anyone seeking a return into stocks/bonds with more risk than they should/would normally take.

The problem is not the market concept.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 21, 2017 03:38 PM (TmCOq)

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