Overnight Open Thread (05-20-2018 )

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And in short, I was afraid.
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1 Thirſt!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 10:02 PM (e9G8E)

2 Evening Horde!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 10:03 PM (9rIkM)

3 Hola

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:03 PM (UI5zK)

4 Breaking news: Shit, meet fan...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/
998334782621802503.html

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:04 PM (W+kMI)

5 All aboard! For the Night Train!

Posted by: James Brown, Soul Brother #1 at May 20, 2018 10:04 PM (zCyNd)

6 Well damn. First time I broke the Top 5 barrier.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (W+kMI)

7 Yay ONT

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (84F5k)

8 hello ONT

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (hMwEB)

9 Love the Overconfidence poster.
Never seen a cat that dumb.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (wgCUV)

10 Dude... really?

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (Ckg4U)

11 Slap! Dude! Wha happened?

Black flagged?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (9rIkM)

12 Hellooooooo, Horde!

Thanks for the ONT!

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (X+6iw)

13 Ace's timebender strikes again!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (9rIkM)

14 I cannot wait for next week. I have a feeling that PDT has declared war on the entire Uniparty. Adam Baldwin on Twitter just posted the question of whether Brennan could be a flight risk.

Posted by: Jmel at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (OeWgo)

15 Love the Overconfidence poster.
Never seen a cat that dumb.
Posted by: Winston at May




you sure it is the cat that is overconfident?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (MTjB1)

16 Had that happen once, where I was second and then after refreshing Slap had been disappeared and I had a first.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (UI5zK)

17
Meet the Beatles & Residents

https://tinyurl.com/ybmsumzx

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 10:07 PM (IqV8l)

18 Years ago, I saw an big ole farm cat hunting and it had a bead on a chipmunk. What neither of us saw was a Hawk also had a bead on that chipmunk. I didn't see the confrontation but I sure heard it. Saw the cat come running, the hawk fly away, and that was 1 lucky chipmunk.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 10:07 PM (pY+s4)

19 Had that happen once, where I was second and then after refreshing Slap had been disappeared and I had a first.
Posted by: Ruthless at May




there was a time not too long ago where management was discouraging the race to post first, second, whatever.

not sure why anyone cares either way.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (MTjB1)

20 That's not a really big baldy but he could mess up that cat.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (wgCUV)

21 You don't want to taunt happy, fun ball....

Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (kufk0)

22 Joined Gab today at the AoS group.

Looks interesting.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (9rIkM)

23 In Trump Reeducation Camp, the soyboys will be fed prime steak, the old school McDonalds fries in pig fat, and lattes with real milk.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (6FqZa)

24 Don't know Tonypete. I try not to piss people off, but whatever. If that's the worst thing that happens to me today?

...I'm truly blessed.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (Ckg4U)

25 11 - Tonypete

Wha happened? See the link in post #4 for further details.

Rush is gonna be epic tomorrow.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (W+kMI)

26 how tight do you think assholes are in D.C. tonight in anticipation for tomorrow MOAB by PDT ?

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (y3aQB)

27 "No, Markets Will Not 'Starve Humanity' by 2050"

Well not with that attitude they won't.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (y87Qq)

28 Happy-ish Sunday evening, all y'all ...

Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (AoK0a)

29 Nice ONT, Thanks Charlie!

Love the Overconfidence picture. I may have to steal that.

Soooooo looking forward to tomorrow, even if it is Monday. Trump is going to send Obama to the Barrel.

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (cAj82)

30 We're about a third to half unpacked. Cold, rainy day without Pookette (she's at Grandma's), so a good unpacking day.

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (XKZwp)

31 I'm betting on the cat. Cats easily kill birds, right? That's just a bird, right?/

Ever seen the video of Mongolians using eagles to hunt wolves. Goldens, not bald eagles. The poor wolves don't have a chance. That eagle doesn't look ready to take any shit from that fancy white supremacist pussy.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (UI5zK)

32 What's a weekend?

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (lKs2v)

33 I don't what I've done to earn a promotion...
It has been a while since I've hit the tip jar, too!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (e9G8E)

34 The student "body" at the 1776 high school is 22.4% "Asian"- a rather catchall term.

Nevertheless, I am willing to bet my remaining stock of Trans-Siberian Railway Bonds that 0.0% of the complaints came from them.

Posted by: Miklos, remarkabley unoffended at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (zCyNd)

35 well, the eagle is not in his best position on the ground. where he in the air he would be a lot better off. should the cat knock him over he could be in a serious predicament.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (MTjB1)

36 Slap!

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (TdMsT)

37 Cats did not become apex predators by being timid. A hunting cat, of any size, is a terrifying sight.

Mountain lion in Washington took down two mountain bikers over the weekend. One survived.

Fascinating book: The Lion in the Living Room."

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (X+6iw)

38 Ladyl!

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (Ckg4U)

39 All aboard! For the Night Train!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyf8oRF6Trg

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (y3aQB)

40 Adam Baldwin on Twitter just posted the question of whether Brennan could be a flight risk.

That would give me a schadenboner the size of the monolith in 2001 A Space Odyssey.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (rnAwa)

41 'm betting on the cat. Cats easily kill birds, right? That's just a bird, right?/

Ever seen the video of Mongolians using eagles to hunt wolves. Goldens, not bald eagles. The poor wolves don't have a chance. That eagle doesn't look ready to take any shit from that fancy white supremacist pussy.
Posted by: Ruthless at May




wouldn't normally expect the eagle to let that scenario occur. maybe he is injured.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:11 PM (MTjB1)

42 Slap!

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (TdMsT)

And they say chicks don't like the Three Stooges!

Posted by: Why I oughtta at May 20, 2018 10:11 PM (zCyNd)

43 Brennan, Strzok, and others talked themselves into enough of a lather repeating left-wing propaganda that they decided it was worth abusing their power as government employees.

Somewhat like every group of jackasses does, from corrupt county sheriffs to CEOs that dump toxic waste in remote communities to slavers to dictators.

People are so good at imagining that we can imagine an excuse for *anything*.

Personally I think Brennan is too smug to be a flight risk, but I've never met the man.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (FDnQi)

44 Malthusians hate the human race a hell of a lot more than they hate being wrong.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (rnAwa)

45 There are no stray cats in Juneau, AK. Lots of eagles, though.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (Dp6qK)

46 Lovely. AC not acting quite right. Hope management is better with this than with the smoke detector incident.

Posted by: Brother Cavil at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (lLeln)

47 My five-day "weekend" is just starting. I work Sat. and Sun and have the whole week off. Yeah, jealousy doesn't look good on you. At my age it's a wonder I'm even here, much less working at all.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (UI5zK)

48 All due respect to cats, what can be ruthless:

Eagle will fuck you up, bigly.


birds are scary as shit.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (Mkuv2)

49 I'm thinking the eagle/kitteh pic is a photoshop.

Posted by: davidt at May 20, 2018 10:12 PM (ux+Lp)

50 Slap!

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (TdMsT)

And they say chicks don't like the Three Stooges!
Posted by: Why I oughtta at May 20, 2018 10:11 PM (zCyNd)


Lol

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:13 PM (TdMsT)

51
How & Dee!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 10:13 PM (pNxlR)

52 26 - NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN

Trump just broke the laws of physics with all the poo stuffed into that MOAB.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:13 PM (W+kMI)

53 Y5, you missed my sarc slash?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:13 PM (UI5zK)

54 top 100?

grill about ready for tonight's NY Strip steak*....

* a certain COB would call it a roast.

they would be wrong.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 10:14 PM (QDw86)

55 Ever seen the video of Mongolians using eagles to
hunt wolves. Goldens, not bald eagles. The poor wolves don't have a
chance. That eagle doesn't look ready to take any shit from that fancy
white supremacist pussy.


Posted by: Ruthless

---As a teenager I ran a trapline and once caught an owl in a leg hold trap.

Somehow, I released it without it tearing me to ittsy-bitsy pieces but a damn fine hunting coat was sacrificed to Artemis. If a mere owl is that powerful, fast and strong, I don't want anything to do with an eagle.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (9rIkM)

56 speaking of tight sphincters named john Ollie ackabar brennan. the spook spoke today,got whacked in the groin by the golden kracken:
mitch and pauli you better fix this trump fellow or you will be sorry. you listening Mitchell??
hmmm I wonder if jonnie the spook has some 8mm film of chi com cuck mitch?? a twofer.

Posted by: dynamo red at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (WX+x0)

57
What's a weekend?
Posted by: buzzion


When it hurts to sit down.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (IqV8l)

58 Good evening, morons.

should the cat knock him over he could be in a serious predicament.

With a six-foot wingspan? No. That cat is meaty meat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (zuaBT)

59 redc1c4, Yum! I like mine rare plus--just run it through a hot fire, then knock the hooves off. I'll be there soon!

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (X+6iw)

60 If you aim for the King, you better not miss.

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (cAj82)

61 I think that Overconfidence poster is a photoshop. The eagle looks too small, or the cat too big.
Also cats are a lot of things, and stupid ain't one of them....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2018 10:16 PM (mc8++)

62 When did it get to be past 10pm? No more whip-its and Operation Ivy for me, time to get ready for bed.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 10:16 PM (y87Qq)

63 Apex predator vs apex predator certainly happens, but it's generally a waste of time, and risky for both.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:16 PM (FDnQi)

64 LadyTheo
I know the area where that attack happened very well. Lonely and not much visited.
The cat appears to have been extremely malnourished as at 3-4 years old and 100 pounds it was about half the weight it should've been. The did locate and shoot the cat. A necropsy may add information. I've encountered several cougars in the Cascades and E WA and never had a problem.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 10:16 PM (wgCUV)

65 Among the awards to be bestowed at the next White House Morons Dinner:

-most inaccurate guess as to number of comment

(these will have to be ordered from China, in bulk quantities)

Posted by: Miklos from Price, Waterhouse at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (zCyNd)

66 And here I thought global warming was going to starve us all.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (zuaBT)

67 I guess Brennan forgot about this quote from Cicero...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/
998347705230548993.html

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (W+kMI)

68 That Sky Carp would prefer the cat was roadkill, but this will do in a pinch.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (Kn6Gb)

69 First time I bought a record it was a 45 of "I Want to Hold Your Hand". The B side was "When I Saw Her Standing There". Same day I bought Herman's Hermit's "Henry The VIII" backed by "Dandy".

49 cents each as I recall. It was a big $$$ purchase for an eight year old.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (RfzVr)

70 Y5, you missed my sarc slash?
Posted by: Ruthless at May




lots of times the sarc slashes get skipped over as stray internets lingo.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (MTjB1)

71 Out here in Mountain Time it's still daylight. Go West young man! You get two or three more hours in every day. Yes it's true.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:18 PM (UI5zK)

72 It's supposed to rain the rest of the week, so no grilling out at Casa H.
I've already got cube steak thawing in the fridge, gonna make country fried steak with white gravy and creamed potatoes tomorrow night.
Yum-a-licious.

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 10:18 PM (cAj82)

73 speaking of tight sphincters named john Ollie ackabar brennan. the spook spoke today,got whacked in the groin by the golden kracken:
mitch and pauli you better fix this trump fellow or you will be sorry. you listening Mitchell??
hmmm I wonder if jonnie the spook has some 8mm film of chi com cuck mitch?? a twofer.
Posted by: dynamo red at May 20, 2018 10:15 PM (WX+x0)


I understand that the popcorn markets in Asia are going bananas right now. (Or is it apples?)

The popcorn market open in the US tomorrow morning is going to be up, up, up!

Posted by: filbert at May 20, 2018 10:18 PM (953wK)

74 And here I thought global warming was going to starve us all.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (zuaBT)


Also known as Global Greening.

Oops.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (FDnQi)

75 Tonypete, there is an animal YouTube about owls-fascinating. I think one type of owl has the strongest talon-grip strength of any bird, IIRC.

Owls have been known to attack runners and knock them over during nesting season.

My oldest was scared of owls when he was little. My mom tried to reassure him by saying, "An owl's just a big old bird."

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (X+6iw)

76 pretty sure most of you have heard of "Nextdoor" social media platform.

i used the term "ghetto bird" for the LAPD chopper.

showflake had meltdown.

i told her to #FOAD, nicely, so i don't get banned.

she tried to virtue signal that her credentials were MOAR than mine: my reply "LOL"

nothing since.

used it again late last night, since it was back. someone said i needed to be careful, as he used it, got screeched at, and wound up deleting his poast.

i told him IDGAF, that someone had whined previously, and that no fucks were given by me then either. (politely, again)

the private messages telling me how brave i am are amusing, if only because the rest of the public is so cowed by the bitches.

this way to freedom folks!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (QDw86)

77 I love the smell of pussy in the morning. It smells like... Victory.

Posted by: Eagle at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (ux+Lp)

78 Not only would the cat have ran at the sight of that eagle, they BOTH hung around while some fat slob took their picture? Both animals would have scrammed the minute that guy started fumbling with his camera.
Total fake,

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (mc8++)

79 That Sky Carp would prefer the cat was roadkill, but this will do in a pinch.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (Kn6Gb)

Flying Sky Carp with Lasers.

That would solve the illegal Hungarian immigration problem, at least.

Posted by: Miklos, totes legal, amigo at May 20, 2018 10:20 PM (zCyNd)

80 I love the smell of pussy in the morning. It smells like... Victory.

Posted by: Eagle at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (ux+Lp)

Grab it. I would.

Posted by: PDJT at May 20, 2018 10:21 PM (zCyNd)

81 I just saw that Bernard Lewis died.....

He will be missed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 10:21 PM (wYseH)

82 http://bit.ly/2LikqB1
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a Blast from the past by Sean Davis

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 10:21 PM (y3aQB)

83 pretty sure most of you have heard of "Nextdoor" social media platform.

i used the term "ghetto bird" for the LAPD chopper.

showflake had meltdown.

i told her to #FOAD, nicely, so i don't get banned.

she tried to virtue signal that her credentials were MOAR than mine: my reply "LOL"

nothing since.

used it again late last night, since it was back. someone said i needed to be careful, as he used it, got screeched at, and wound up deleting his poast.

i told him IDGAF, that someone had whined previously, and that no fucks were given by me then either. (politely, again)

the private messages telling me how brave i am are amusing, if only because the rest of the public is so cowed by the bitches.

this way to freedom folks!
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (QDw86)


A few years ago, the same thing happened on my community's discussion forum on FB. The liberals were rending their garments after someone asked why a ghetto bird was circling our neighborhood. It was hysterical.

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:21 PM (TdMsT)

84 Mark Penn has a curiously anti deep state piece at the hill



http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/388549-stopping-robert-mueller-to-protect-us-all

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:22 PM (MTjB1)

85 The physucs are all wrong for the cat.

The way it's claws are curved would keep it from getting a chance to do much damage through those feathers.

Also, that eagle would snap its neck with its beak in a heartbeat. I watched one dust a magpie that was harryinf it yesterday afternoon. Eagle had enough and just crushed it in mid air.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:22 PM (UBkab)

86 Here is the "News of the Week" compilation of the news.

http://politicalhat.com/?p=14653

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 20, 2018 10:22 PM (itfg0)

87 Winston,
Hmm. That is small for a Western cat. The few we have back in Indiana typically run smaller.

I hashed over the weekend with some runners from Eugene. One of them told me they do not take cougars lightly. They run in packs (the hashers, not the cougars), so there is safety in numbers. And they make a lot of noise, being stoopid hashers, so that probably helps deter predators--whether cats or raptors. ;-)

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:23 PM (X+6iw)

88 Maybe that cat....is backing up?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2018 10:23 PM (mc8++)

89 *iTunes play list* Rain. Lynch Mob. Yeah, '80s metal. But George Lynch's tone was fucking huge. Playing chunky ESP Kamikazes certainly helped.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 10:23 PM (Mkuv2)

90 Having once witnessed a Western Red Tailed Hawk utterly devastate a Coyote, I'm absolutely certain that I'd never want a Bald or Golden Eagle viewing me as it's Person of Interest.

We tend to think of birds as these fragile, delicate things. Which mostly, they are.

But a large raptor in it's prime is one seriously strong and aggressive predator. Fearsome, accurate and that beak and those claws are just simply wicked and terrible in their own right.

Alternatively. We've all seen the video of that seriously pissed off and frightened 15 lb. tabby cat utterly shred the animal control officer who was trying to show it off on TV.

Now, multiply that cat by ten, and give it all the wildness that Ma Nature can breed into an Alpha Predator.

Mountain Biker needs a S&W Mountain Gun as part of his loadout, methinks.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at May 20, 2018 10:23 PM (QzJWU)

91 @67

That picture under the Cicero quote at Threadreader just may become my latest wallpaper... PRICELESS!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 10:23 PM (e9G8E)

92 74 And here I thought global warming was going to starve us all.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:17 PM (zuaBT)

--------

Just imagine how bad it will be when we have to grow food in weather like they have in the tropics. Nothing grows there.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (ga0eq)

93 It's a photoshop. That's a fat housecat with totally incorrect posture for approaching prey that close.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (8u+2n)

94 I hashed over the weekend with some runners from Eugene. One of them told me they do not take cougars lightly. They run in packs (the hashers, not the cougars),

The cougars are rumored to run in packs down in the Scottsdale, AZ area.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (Tnhbr)

95 God made cats to be snacks for eagles and coyotes.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (UI5zK)

96 The original ghetto was the Jewish neighborhood of Venice. The word is derived for the Italian word for "borough", or town.

So a modern ghetto bird would be an AH-64 or a Blackhawk?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (FDnQi)

97
What's a weekend?
Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM



It's your kend when it's been in cold water too long.

Posted by: Hands at May 20, 2018 10:25 PM (EzdLW)

98 Sara A. Carter

Why are you so concerned? What are you all so afraid of? These continued veiled threats, disinformation and ideological opposition is the true danger to our democracy. The disservice is the undermining of @realDonaldTrump a duly elected president and the people of the U.S.

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 10:25 PM (y3aQB)

99 91 - Zettai Roshia no Botto

The People's Cube is the home of many wonderful things :-D

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:25 PM (W+kMI)

100 this way to freedom folks!

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 10:19 PM (QDw86)

"Dear Sir/Madam/Zhe/xir.......

F*cks may be applied for upon completion of form FOAD-1, with supplemental information on forms DGAF/1776/10 and 2A/molonlabe.

Requests for f*ucks will be processed in the order recieved, or not.

Posted by: Miklos from Legal at May 20, 2018 10:25 PM (zCyNd)

101 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 10:25 PM (cAj82)

102 Everything is a P'shop these days. You can't believe anything unless you see it in the flesh (and even then you cannot be 100% certain....)

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:26 PM (UI5zK)

103 dewey, cheatem howe

Posted by: micky at May 20, 2018 10:26 PM (dF9Lb)

104 Just imagine how bad it will be when we have to grow food in weather like they have in the tropics. Nothing grows there.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (ga0eq)

And the heating bills! *brrrr*

Posted by: the Yanomamo at May 20, 2018 10:26 PM (zCyNd)

105 >> I'd never want a Bald or Golden Eagle viewing me as it's Person of Interest.


I had a Golden try to land on me in a snow squall once. I was out in the badlands hunting antelope and hunkered between some boulders to wait out the storm.

Dumb thing though I was a rock. I could have grabbed it by the talons it was so close. Fuckin' huge bird.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:26 PM (5Se9q)

106 Remember that album cover (Meet the Beatles), and of course the songs. Older brother got it when it came out. Wonder what ever happened to it.


PDT certainly continues to entertain and command the spotlight. Wondering if the DOJ OIG (who reportedly has over 500 employees, which if you think about is a crap-ton of people) might be getting a wee bit overloaded with all these investigations.


Also, seems pretty clear that the IC IG would have a piece of this - the *origin* and timing of the counter-intel investigation is one of the key, nukyler items in this debacle. Not sure a DOJ IG would properly have the ambit to include all of the foreign intel aspects.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (QDnY+)

107
Hello Ladyl!

The thing about Owls is their shit is supposed to be, like really slick. Slicker'n owl shit. I've oft wondered is this true, and if owl shit might be used a good grease in a pinch or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (8O3HH)

108 95 God made cats to be snacks for eagles and coyotes.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:24 PM (UI5zK)

Buzzards, too.

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (cAj82)

109 96 The original ghetto was the Jewish neighborhood of Venice. The word is derived for the Italian word for "borough", or town.

-------

I thought a gheto was a forge or foundry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (ga0eq)

110 "Mark Penn has a curiously anti deep state piece at the hill




Posted by: yankeefifth"
I saw that. Does this mean Bill Clinton is going to try and distance himself from the Mueller/Deep Skate train-wreck?

Posted by: Ripley at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (NbRJx)

111 Predictable .

Checked Brennans Twitter feed.

Twitter suggests I follow Comey, Preet Bahara and Nicole Wallace.

Posted by: Golfman at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (If3tB)

112 A REAL ghetto bird would be a B1-B gunship. Stealth death in the dark.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (UI5zK)

113 Eagle and cat on a deck railing in Alaska

https://youtu.be/M9EBofaI5Xs

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (rnAwa)

114 The balls on John Brennan.... you would think he's keep his mouth shut.
Jeez.....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (mc8++)

115 15 Love the Overconfidence poster.
Never seen a cat that dumb.
Posted by: Winston at May

you sure it is the cat that is overconfident?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (MTjB1)

++++

We had a full grown cat that got too close to a crow's nest. He wasn't even in the tree, just on the ground below. They started dive bombing him. He crouched down as low as he could go and started mewing pitifully. We had to go rescue him.

Cats do great against little birds, but against the larger ones, not so much. Unless they can sneak up on them, then all bets are off.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (pvjTE)

116 Publius, my dear! Where is our gal?

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (TdMsT)

117 I thought a ghetto was were the joos were kept in

Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (hMwEB)

118 That brick joke is funny because it's true!

Posted by: Paulie Gaultieri at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (eh0Va)

119 I want that poster!!!!

For my office.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (a3OL0)

120 Everything is a P'shop these days. You can't believe anything unless you see it in the flesh (and even then you cannot be 100% certain....)

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:26 PM (UI5zK)

Not so!

Posted by: Miss January, 1966 at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (zCyNd)

121
The Overconfidence pic reminds me of an article I read from Boy's Life back when I was a kid. A boy gets attacked by a Golden Eagle, and while he fights off the bird, the kid gets MASSIVELY fucked up. Like ears and whole eyebrows hanging off his face by a thread of flesh fucked up.

Scared the crap out of me.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 10:29 PM (eXA4G)

122 The two cyclists were from the wet side of the mountains, so no icky, scary guns. I've hiked in that area and encountered black bears so a sidearm is a requirement. That, and the meth labs are trying for a comeback in that area.
Washington State University has a raptor club that takes in a rehabs all kind of predatory birds. Last time I saw them they were showing several owls. One, a snow owl, was simply gorgeous. Looked so soft but since I like having my fingers attached, I refrained from petting it.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 10:29 PM (wgCUV)

123
37 Cats did not become apex predators by being timid. A hunting cat, of any size, is a terrifying sight.

Mountain lion in Washington took down two mountain bikers over the weekend. One survived.

Fascinating book: The Lion in the Living Room."
Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (X+6iw)

In related news, graduates of Washington State University are flooding West in search of employment in Western Washington.

Seriously, I hike the Cascades and never go without an equalizer. Crap, a grade school in Woodinville had a cougar sighting on the edge of their playground. Can't wait for the wolves to show up and start eating all the environauts yappy dogs. Might moderate their views.

And don't get me started on wolves reintroduction!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 20, 2018 10:29 PM (e1mEI)

124 http://bit.ly/2Lh1Auj
++++
Thread by @tracybeanz: "1. I am about to blow your minds with this thread. It is massive. You will want to pay VERY close attention.

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 10:29 PM (y3aQB)

125 >> I love the smell of pussy in the morning.

I like it any time of day, morning, noon, or night.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:29 PM (8O3HH)

126 My smart liberal friend is reading Comey's book and keeps telling me how great it is. I manage not to roll my eyes and just nod. It is like dealing with the mentally ill. Don't make any sudden moves.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:29 PM (UI5zK)

127 I saw that. Does this mean Bill Clinton is going to try and distance himself from the Mueller/Deep Skate train-wreck?
Posted by: Ripley at May



who knows? one of the best written most coherent pieces discussing the plot to undo Trump's win and strategy for fighting deep state.

given the source you have to wonder if Penn is a true patriot or the whole thing is a hyper devious trap. Sure does seem like the former.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:30 PM (MTjB1)

128 Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998241684382240773

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998241772722630657

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998241862048714752

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998241956445741056

Posted by: kbdabear at May 20, 2018 10:30 PM (eh0Va)

129 Wow Miklos, that some prolific sockpuppetry!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (rdl6o)

130 >> Publius, my dear! Where is our gal?

Safe and sound, talking on the phone. Maybe she'll join us in a bit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (8O3HH)

131 Let me just say that it says everything that you need to know about John Brennan that he has a Twitter account. The former Director of the CIA has a Twitter feed. He's a bozo.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (zuaBT)

132 Housecats have put humans in the hospital in critical condition. I'm only aware of cases where the humans literally tried to kill the cat.

It would seem that even the cat that shredded the animal control officer and left him in stitches was just trying to get away and didn't really aim to do harm.

Pound for pound, cats are probably the most dangerous *natural* predators (obviously not including a Marine Recon unit).

Saw a video of a tiger in India dragging a ten+ foot shark up onto the bank of a river. Tiger had apparently been crossing the river and the shark attacked. Probably a bull shark, they like fresh water.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (FDnQi)

133 114 - JoeF

Maybe he thinks his muzzie prayer rug is a magic carpet...

...and he can fly away at will.

More fool he.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (W+kMI)

134 More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242045763432448

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242136905707520

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242223069286401

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242331307528192

Posted by: kbdabear at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (eh0Va)

135 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (8O3HH)

First nominee, the Golden Pulitzer Peabody Nobel Moron Prize:

Ficus d'Or

Posted by: Miklos, Chef de Comite at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (zCyNd)

136 CBD, yep, Bernard Lewis, a major figure. I need to finish some of his books, and re-read others.


Long ago had the pleasure of dealing with him for some event. And was fortunate to be at the event - which occurred within a few weeks of the start of the Iran-Iraq war - where when asked his first-draft, off the cuff assessment of the new war and the two combatants, described it as "a resistible force meeting a moveable object".


A line I have borrowed and used quite a bit since 1980.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (QDnY+)

137 red-
I ceased giving a fuck several years ago, and the sentiment was cemented when two liberal "friends" dumped me after the election. Now I just say whatever I want.

I am always amazed at how many people tell me, sotto voce, that they agree with me. I have gained a reputation in my social circle as one not to be trifled with in an argument (or when we're running, heh). I marshall my facts; I don't get emotional' I don't care about the feelz.

It is fantastically liberating. We have kept our mouths shut for too long.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (X+6iw)

138 117 I thought a ghetto was were the joos were kept in
Posted by: Votermom's phone now on Team Gloom Sub Duty at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (hMwEB)

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The original ghetto was an island in Venice. Jews were required to be on it when the gates closed each evening. The gates were opened again in the morning and the Jews could leave to work.

The island was originally the site of a foundry, which was a gheto in that day. Hence the name ghetto for any ethnic enclave, but especially Jewish ones.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (ga0eq)

139 130 >> Publius, my dear! Where is our gal?

Safe and sound, talking on the phone. Maybe she'll join us in a bit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018

Relay my warmest regards!

Posted by: Ladyl at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (TdMsT)

140 Winnipeg did not advance.


So much for my interest in the Stanley Cup Final. Nominally rooting for whichever Eastern team advances. Kinda got a problem with a first-year expansion team making it this far.


Fuck it.


Go Avalanche!

Go Jets!

In that order.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (Mkuv2)

141 you know, bill clinton trying to gain distance from the attack on Trump's legitimacy would make sense given his dislike of the obamas.

maybe he is trying to peel off a bunch of the democrats and gut obamas legacy?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (MTjB1)

142 how tight do you think assholes are in D.C. tonight in anticipation for tomorrow MOAB by PDT ?
Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 10:08 PM (y3aQB)
++++++
My most desired state for them:
Assholes: Puckered
Stomachs: Nauseated
Brow: Sweating
Respiration: Probably pushing 30
Eyes and hands: Searching for those spare passports...

Trump wouldn't have tweeted what he did (and would not instruct DoJ to do what he demands) unless he knows the outcome already. The world's most intense cross-examination might be about to begin.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (hYcqw)

143 Even More Sunday Swimwear ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242426581147648

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242516586647553

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242601638744065

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/status/998242690969014272

Posted by: kbdabear at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (eh0Va)

144 n that Human Progress thing ~ I had no end of time explaining to people who should know better that the concept of a "finite" anything, in an infinite, and ever expanding, universe, makes no sense in general and that specifically the ability of making to overcome really knows no bounds (all leftist current thinking retards excepted, of course). It is limited only by our imagination which is, also, infinite ( hence our ability to at least comprehend concept such as God, infinity and the nature of the universe). With leftists it usually falls on deaf ears ("but, but it's settled science!" they usually sputter). With normal, open minded conservative libertarian type people it opens here eyes. I mean for chrissakes, the Simon Ehrlich bet was over 15 years ago and Ehrlich lost.

Repeat after me everyone with a brain: Malthusians are always wrong. Always.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 20, 2018 10:33 PM (0/0WS)

145 Wow Miklos, that some prolific sockpuppetry!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at May 20, 2018 10:31 PM (rdl6o)

When they pay you, it's called Astroturf.

Posted by: Fusion Miklos GPS at May 20, 2018 10:33 PM (zCyNd)

146 redc1c4 - Since you are on Nextdoor give me some knowledge. When I checked them out a couple years ago it seemed like a cool idea but no way was I gonna give up so much info they wanted to join.

How has your experience been? I would prefer a group that could anonymously note issues in our area. If you join Nextdoor it seems to me you have to let the crazy neighbors know too much. (I understand our experiences may vary as our neighbors do.)

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:33 PM (RfzVr)

147 given the source you have to wonder if Penn is a true patriot or the whole thing is a hyper devious trap.

Any dispassionate and non-crazy observer would arrive at Penn's conclusion. This denial of an election is dangerous for the country--not because it will succeed, but because of the erosion of norms that it signals. If it keeps up, the backlash is going to be a bitch. Like Insty says, if you don't like Trump, you will like what comes after Trump even less.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:34 PM (zuaBT)

148 Ruthless! Love you dude!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 20, 2018 10:34 PM (mMeIQ)

149 I thought a gheto was a forge or foundry.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (ga0eq)


It is. Borghetto is "borough." They're connected.

I admit I just think it's more plausible that a neighborhood was called neighborhood than foundry, without convincing evidence.

It could be that they're just cross-fertilized words.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:34 PM (FDnQi)

150
Any dispassionate and non-crazy observer would arrive at Penn's conclusion. This denial of an election is dangerous for the country--not because it will succeed, but because of the erosion of norms that it signals. If it keeps up, the backlash is going to be a bitch. Like Insty says, if you don't like Trump, you will like what comes after Trump even less.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May




well, we agree on that but Penn is going to be accused of treason by his party of passionate crazies.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:35 PM (MTjB1)

151 Just imagine how bad it will be when we have to grow food in weather like they have in the tropics. Nothing grows there.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero)


Ice cream will become a thing of the past!!!!

Posted by: Adriane the Meteorology Critic ... at May 20, 2018 10:35 PM (AoK0a)

152 We had a big a$$ed grey tabby when I was a kid. Apex predator. I watched him taunt and tease a momma crow until she began dive bombing him. Last thing she ever did. He takes a retreat and leapt in the air backwards and snagged her out of the air. Her mate was smart enough not to do the failed dive bombing and landed nearby with wings spread to attack the cat, last thing he ever did too. Do not fvck with a fifteen pound Apex predator.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 10:35 PM (8ZeGS)

153 I have only read a couple of Lewis's books, I think The Crisis of Islam and What Went Wrong? or something like that. I should probably read some others. An understanding of Islam is critical in this day and age. Unfortunately, most people have no fucking clue as to how evil and dangerous Islam is.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:35 PM (UI5zK)

154 I hope Brennan tweets his ass off, 20 times a day, every day, from prison.

Posted by: navybrat, the trill is gone at May 20, 2018 10:36 PM (w7KSn)

155 This moment of silence caused a lot of noise.

Students at the elite Beacon School were asked to pause from their studies last week to pay tribute to the victims of violence in Gaza, where some 60 Palestinians were killed the day before by Israeli soldiers.

The school-wide announcement Tuesday stunned some students and has outraged parents who question why the school is entering into the divisive Palestinian-Israeli conflict with what they see as an anti-Jewish bent.

Whaaaa? We can't even mourn the deaths of terrorists?! What kind of white supremacy is this?

https://nyp.st/2IWKh3c

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 10:36 PM (+y/Ru)

156 very fun to watch brennan spinning faster and faster to prevent his treachery from being shown.


odds he goes to fort marcy park for a quiet lunch of lead for one?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:37 PM (MTjB1)

157 Hi Westminster!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:37 PM (UI5zK)

158
Fascinating book: The Lion in the Living Room."
Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through.


How about Zebra In the Kitchen?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 10:37 PM (IqV8l)

159 Trump wouldn't have tweeted what he did (and would not instruct DoJ to do what he demands) unless he knows the outcome already. The world's most intense cross-examination might be about to begin.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 10:32 PM (hYcqw)

That's my thought.

Obama tapped my wires, and what all did we learn?

Shit is real.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 10:37 PM (Dp6qK)

160 Did the Romans apologize for being Roman?

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 10:38 PM (nBr1j)

161 I admit I just think it's more plausible that a neighborhood was called neighborhood than foundry, without convincing evidence.


Neighborhood without foundry, not neighborhood.

Is in Red Book, available from Alibaba or your local Confucius Institute.

I now license to NBC capitalist marketing slogan "Leap Forward!"

Posted by: Chairman Mao at May 20, 2018 10:38 PM (zCyNd)

162 Speaking of apex predators, I give you -- President Donald J. Trump. All others are merely prey.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:39 PM (UI5zK)

163 >> First nominee, the Golden Pulitzer Peabody Nobel
>> Moron Prize:

The Nobel Pussy Prize? Nobel Piece Prize?

No, I must respectfully decline. Such honor can only go to our esteemed Kbdabear, long may he reign over us.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:39 PM (8O3HH)

164 I don't particularly like birds.
There. I said it.

In fact, I don't like anything that flies.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 10:39 PM (0jtPF)

165 Zebras in the ER would be even more interesting!
(Medical saying: when you hear hoof eats into Arizona, think horses, not zebras...)

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (X+6iw)

166 I like bats. They're cute.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (UI5zK)

167 You know, house of cards, kind of stupid.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (MTjB1)

168 Hoof beats, dammit!

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (X+6iw)

169 158
Fascinating book: The Lion in the Living Room."
Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through.

How about Zebra In the Kitchen?

_------------
Don't give a moose a muffin.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (8ZeGS)

170 While Brennan is (and always has been) a notably histrionic jackass, I think it's right (and discouraging) to put his astonishing mouthing off in context. The context of collapsing standards.


I'm old enough to remember when CIA directors didn't write memoirs (hi, old buddy George!). Instead, they were the object of bios that were often difficult to assemble - since CIA directors didn't talk in public much (the book about Richard Helms, The Man Who Kept the Secrets, comes to mind).


In the last decade or so, seems all these long-standing unwritten rules and standards have evaporated. The Navy SEAL who offed OBL - WTF with him becoming a public figure?? Somewhere I've saved the devastating letter to the special naval warfare community from the commanding officer and senior NCO about that episode. It's not just me that finds so much of this outrageous, and stunning.


But Brennan and Comey mouthing off - writing BOOKS - in this context breaks new ground. Both guys are fairly likely to be the subject of indictments - high enough chance that ANY defense lawyer, or anyone with common sense, would have a strict policy of STFU.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (QDnY+)

171 Last summer in my yard I watched a magpie stare down two cats that were lurking for birds. Laughed a lot for that one. I did have a red tail snag a dove in the yard this year already. I like cats, late partner had 9 when we shared meatspace. The big raptors here would have taken any of them though.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM (wgCUV)

172 Yumm, hoof eats -- Homer

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:41 PM (UI5zK)

173 Jim >>>Alternatively. We've all seen the video of that seriously pissed off
and frightened 15 lb. tabby cat utterly shred the animal control officer
who was trying to show it off on TV.


Oh my gosh Jim. Thanks for the reminder. That is one hilarious video. I've watched it more than once and I do feel bad for the officer, but my god that is funny.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:41 PM (RfzVr)

174 >> Posted by: kbdabear

And folks, do scroll on through and check out Saturday Night Sidebood. Got a nice apron and kitchen theme there. That's one of my favorites, of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:42 PM (8O3HH)

175 Trump didn't really tell the DOJ to start an investigation today, more accurate to say he announced there is one going on.

If someone at the DOJ is leaking what has been obvious for some time now regarding the spying on the Trump campaign then Horowitz, Rosenstein and Sessions already know it.

Whomever is leaking from the DOJ is trying to do damage control by strategic leaking to soften the blow of what's coming. They are actually now in the position of saying that the FBI spied on Trump for good reason.

This is not going to end well for them.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 10:43 PM (/tuJf)

176 odds he goes to fort marcy park for a quiet lunch of lead for one?

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:37 PM (MTjB1)

Although many speculate that the Decline and Fall of the Clintonian Empire was due to lead among the elites, reliable investigations have not been undertaken.

Posted by: Edward "Miklos" Gibbon at May 20, 2018 10:43 PM (zCyNd)

177 >>>I like bats. They're cute.


Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM


Oh hell no.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:43 PM (RfzVr)

178
Speaking of cats and birds, I was laughing today. Some of the birds were dive-bombing my cats today. They fuss (chirp angrily) at them, then swoop down and peck them. They're protecting their nests, I think.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:43 PM (8O3HH)

179 All of my father's cats are bird hunters. One of them will go through the trees after squirrels. Reminds me of a pine Martin when I see it.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 10:43 PM (8ZeGS)

180 Repeat after me everyone with a brain: Malthusians are always wrong. Always.
Posted by: Publius Redux at May 20, 2018 10:33 PM (0/0WS)
+++++++
The profound problems of static analysis of any kind. One big thing Malthus' disciple Erlich got wrong is that industrial populations don't maintain pre-industrial growth rates. Industrial populations stabilize. This is a major problem not just for Erlich (because he was wrong) but also from a policy standpoint in first world countries (since most welfare schemes are ponzis).

Never, ever trust any conclusions that come from static analysis. And the dynamic analysis is likely to be wrong, too, because there are too many variables in any interesting problem - like the Socialist Calculation Problem or any climate model.

This is why the market is so awesome. No one has come up with any other away to allow dynamic analysis to manifest. No one knows everything and most people don't know much. But most people know what *they* individually would like to see happen and the market intermediates the data. Brilliant. Those dead white men had some very good ideas.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 10:44 PM (hYcqw)

181 I Want to Hold Your Hand is the greatest pop song ever written/performed ever. If you disagree you are a poopy head. Sorry, but its true. Good night all must be up early to take 6 lambs to auction.

Posted by: colfax mingo at May 20, 2018 10:44 PM (FoFVZ)

182 Adam Baldwin on Twitter just posted the question of whether Brennan could be a flight risk.

-
Or a suicide bomber risk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 10:44 PM (+y/Ru)

183 Is Brennan writing a book now too? I thought that was Clapper.

I hope they and Comey have to share the same bar of soap in Leavenworth.

Posted by: Hands at May 20, 2018 10:44 PM (EzdLW)

184 They are actually now in the position of saying that the FBI spied on Trump for good reason.

Precisely. The narrative changed in less than a week, folks. Maybe some of the idiots at the NRO and elsewhere will begin to pay attention to just how bad this is.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:45 PM (zuaBT)

185
Brennan was running this whole Get Tump Op, I think. With Barky's tacit approval, of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:45 PM (8O3HH)

186 sure, sure, cat lovers are not so perturbed by cats hunting birds but wait until someone's dog hunts their cats.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:45 PM (MTjB1)

187 81 I just saw that Bernard Lewis died.....

He will be missed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 10:21 PM (wYseH)

What Went Wrong is a great book. Highly recommended.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 10:45 PM (1FhAQ)

188 I guess what I mean about ghettos is that ethnic neighborhoods are called ghettos because of an ethnic neighborhood by that name, not because of a foundry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:45 PM (FDnQi)

189 I'm old enough to remember when CIA directors didn't write memoirs

Oh contraire, Comrade Rhomboid.

Stefan Halper's father-in-law, Ray Cline, was the #2 at the CIA, and wrote many books about it.

Posted by: Miklos read those books at May 20, 2018 10:46 PM (zCyNd)

190 I have gained a reputation in my social circle as one not to be trifled with in an argument (or when we're running, heh). I marshall my facts; I don't get emotional' I don't care about the feelz.

It is fantastically liberating. We have kept our mouths shut for too long.
Posted by: LadyTheo
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As I have mentioned here before, when one of my liberal acquaintances tries to weasel out of a losing argument with, "Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree", I refuse. I will not tacitly accept that their argument is valid or equivalent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 10:46 PM (FJXGr)

191 A REAL ghetto bird would be a B1-B gunship. Stealth death in the dark.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:27 PM (UI5zK)
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ain't nuthin stealthy about the Bone.

not at gun ship altitude, anyway, if you are the target.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 10:46 PM (QDw86)

192 I would also take this opportunity to remind everyone of that really strange email that Susan Rice sent to herself.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:46 PM (zuaBT)

193 177 >>>I like bats. They're cute.


Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM


Oh hell no.
Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:43 PM (RfzVr)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 10:46 PM (sdi6R)

194 Tacit approval hell, Obama was directly behind the whole thing. I don't know that for a fact, but in my heart I know it is true. Very evil man, and very stupid. Of course, had Hillary won he would have gotten away with it.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (UI5zK)

195 I dunno, I think the Cinderella story (Bill Murray's voice from Caddy Shack) of LV in the Stanley Cup is pretty nice.


Beyond that, I actually saw their second game against Winnipeg and was very pleasantly surprised to find it entertaining. And to LV's credit, to my amazement, they actually took shots on a power play - lots of shots. NHL power plays devolved over the years into boring passing clinics, with few shots, and not much excitement.


I broke my rule of not watching hockey before Memorial Day (an old joke that I used on the young'ins who never got it, of course, never having known an NHL season that wasn't 9 months long.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (QDnY+)

196 I like bats. They're cute.


Posted by: Ruthless at May



yep

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (MTjB1)

197 like bats. They're cute.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:40 PM


Are you familiar with megabattie's youtube channel?

Aussie rehabber ...

Posted by: Adriane the Meteorology Critic ... at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (AoK0a)

198 What's a weekend?

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM



You're dead, why do you care?

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (RfzVr)

199 Cats did not become apex predators by being timid. A hunting cat, of any size, is a terrifying sight.

Mountain lion in Washington took down two mountain bikers over the weekend. One survived.

Fascinating book: The Lion in the Living Room."

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 10:10 PM (X+6iw)


So, I have a video for you. What happens when you put a go-pro on a cheetah?

https://youtu.be/Plx9IJ1KOsg

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (2K6fY)

200 If humanity does face starvation in 2050, it will not be because of free markets.

Starvation will be available as an option from Obamacare.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (5OO3x)

201 I see that both of my Senators voted against Ron Paul's balanced budget proposal, which means they are both big state ball lickers.

Which I already knew of course.

Good evening roonz and roonettez!

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 20, 2018 10:48 PM (vbvxt)

202 "Maybe some of the idiots at the NRO " I only just recently checked over there. They don't really have many people left, idiots or not. Faded to obscurity. When was the last time anybody read all the way to the end of a G-File?

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 10:48 PM (mk9aG)

203 well, obama is maintaining such a relatively low profile because he knows he is going to have to rely upon Trump's good will to keep his name out of the mess and his ass out of the greybar hotel.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:48 PM (MTjB1)

204 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 10:44 PM (hYcqw)

Zees, my friend, ees called ze "Knowledge Problem", if I say so myself.

Posted by: Miklos von Hayek at May 20, 2018 10:48 PM (zCyNd)

205 Howdy, Hordies.

Only up to comment #30 so far, but in case no one else has mentioned it, the full video for the cat-and-eagle (if this is from the video I'm thinking of) shows the eagle, a regular visitor to the porch, and a couple of cats, are cool with one another.

Kind-of like our cats with visiting raccoons raiding their food bowls. Co-exist!

Posted by: mindful webworker - mocking birds at May 20, 2018 10:48 PM (ECLlc)

206 >> Relay my warmest regards!

Regards are a-relayed.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:49 PM (8O3HH)

207 My cat Dexter takes no crap from any dog.
We have dogs over occasionally, Dexter watches them from afar. Never moves a muscle.

Eventually the dogs, being friendly dogs, come over to say hi to Dexter, maybe smell him a bit.

Big mistake. I try to intervene, but I can't be everywhere all the time.

You never saw such a barrage of claws, fangs and spit in your life, always followed by a retreating, yelping dog.

Posted by: navybrat, the trill is gone at May 20, 2018 10:49 PM (w7KSn)

208 I've said that capitalism respects scarcity, while communism denies it. Malthusians hope for it.

Star Trek, with it's endless energy and ability to create matter from nothing, was space-communism apparently.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 10:49 PM (rnAwa)

209 Fruit bats are cute. I wish I had ears like a fruit bat. Sigh.

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 10:49 PM (mk9aG)

210 See, bats are cute. And they eat kazillions of skeeters. Love your bats and h8 the skeeters. It's nature at work, and for once in our favor.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (UI5zK)

211 Looks like a young eagle. If it wanted the cat, I would have thought it would use the Death From Above move.

Crows used to torment my poor, confused Whiskey that way.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (Zdm89)

212 The original ghetto was the Jewish neighborhood of Venice. The word is derived for the Italian word for "borough", or town.


Not to be confused with "gelato".

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (yzxic)

213 I see that both of my Senators voted against Ron Paul's balanced budget proposal, which means they are both big state ball lickers.

Which I already knew of course.

Good evening roonz and roonettez!
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 20, 2018 10:48 PM (vbvxt)
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I've never been that shot in the ass with the idea of a balanced budget requirement. It sounds great, but they would much rather raise taxes than cut spending. Balancing the budget would be fine (deficits are just a stealth tax anyway), but I think it is the wrong approach.

I would rather see a law stating that, except for military spending during a period of declared war, the federal budget must not exceed 15% of GNP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (hYcqw)

214 Adam Baldwin on Twitter just posted the question of whether Brennan could be a flight risk.

Oooh, oooh! Now do Lois Lerner!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (b4HRt)

215 My thanks to all the top sockpuppeteers, but most especially the prolific Miklos, for driving me off the top ten sockers list.

Posted by: mindful webworker - socket toomey at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (ECLlc)

216 Extinctions down? Its almost as if global warming is a good thing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (aljs9)

217 I see that both of my Senators voted against Ron Paul's balanced budget proposal, which means they are both big state ball lickers.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde
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I've been waiting for months for Nip to turn up and tell us what a great Senator Thom has been.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (FJXGr)

218 "capitalism respects scarcity, while communism denies it. Malthusians hope for it." That is excellent!

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (mk9aG)

219 Is Brennan writing a book now too? I thought that was Clapper.


Another Comey-Clapper Caper?

Posted by: insert Ed McMahon guffaw at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (zCyNd)

220 So, I have a video for you. What happens when you put a go-pro on a cheetah?


People talk a lot and do product placement for Apple?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (FDnQi)

221 rickl - you win. Very cute. I was wrong. Not all bats are nasty, But I bet not all of them are cute either.

Hmmm. Maybe like the humans I know....

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (RfzVr)

222 Oooh, oooh! Now do Lois Lerner!
Posted by: SandyCheeks at May



depends upon what the meaning of "do" is.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (MTjB1)

223 redc may recall back in the 90s(?) when there was an outburst of odd behavior by mountain lions in CA. They were coming out of the sticks and poking around suburban shopping malls, showing up all over, and also involved in some attacks on humans.


Woman jogging (stupidly, against the known norms) at dawn in the mountains east of San Diego was kilt by a cat.


Got so weird that an item was placed on the state ballot, initiative item, to restore very limited licensed hunting of mountain lions. Of course it was defeated (pretty odd response to a short-lived anomaly in the animal kingdom). Biologists - acting as actual scientists - admitted they had not the slightest idea what was going on.


It all stopped soon enough. But in the years after there have been serious attacks, and not way up in the mountains. Recall mountain bikers getting attacked at dusk in a county park in eastern Irvine - hardly a rural area.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (QDnY+)

224 186 sure, sure, cat lovers are not so perturbed by cats hunting birds but wait until someone's dog hunts their cats
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My father fixed that by raising a pit bull from a eight week old puppy with six cats. Funny as hell watching him try to climb a tree. Dude thinks he is a cat. But don't let anything, person or other *strange* cat attempt to mess with "his" cats. Full on rabid pit bull engaged.

Dog is a big pussy otherwise. Pap is 82 this year and he still surprises me with his common sense solutions.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (8ZeGS)

225 If Obama is relying on Trump's good will, he's SOL. Trump is known for the art of revenge, and he is a very patient man.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (UI5zK)

226 >>Fruit bats are cute.


The succesful mating females do mouth things.

It's Science.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:52 PM (5Se9q)

227 My father fixed that by raising a pit bull from a eight week old puppy with six cats. Funny as hell watching him try to climb a tree. Dude thinks he is a cat. But don't let anything, person or other *strange* cat attempt to mess with "his" cats. Full on rabid pit bull engaged.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May



pits are the bomb

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:52 PM (MTjB1)

228 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY
Posted by: rickl


Oy.

Owe you a coke ...
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the Meteorology Critic ... at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (AoK0a)

229 Another Comey-Clapper Caper?

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Swamp's Eleven?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (+y/Ru)

230 177 - cfo mom

Some might dispute that view.

https://youtu.be/5B0UPtEpOQc

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (W+kMI)

231 Rain has stopped, lava flow has gotten good again.

https://youtu.be/009L4FAxwG4

NBC will apparently do a segment from that house. They were by earlier to check it out.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (nBBdT)

232
I've enjoyed watching hawks around here do the "death from above" dive bomb, while dive catch move. They're pretty smart and when we were mowing or plowing, scaring up field mice and other varmimts, they'd light on top of the power poles, then swoop down like bats out of hell on feeling vermin.

Their vision is high resolution indeed. They can spot some little field mouse scampering from well in the distance.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (8O3HH)

233 Bats carry a lot of diseases that can adversly affect humans. Love your bats from afar.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (5Se9q)

234 Trump is known for the art of revenge, and he is a very patient man.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (UI5zK)
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Any takers on what temperature his revenge will be? I am putting it somewhere between "very cold" and "frozen."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 10:54 PM (hYcqw)

235 They are actually now in the position of saying that the FBI spied on Trump for good reason.
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Didn't some conservative pundit get kicked out of his talking head roll on one of the networks for saying the FBI spied on Trump back about 6 months ago?'
This has become quite a pattern btw...
A conservative says X will happen.
The FNM says that's crazy talk! Like cuckoo-bananas!
Then the FNM says well, like, no one actually did that.Then the FNM says it was a low level person somewhere...Then the FNM says well it isn't like a "real crime"Finally the FNM says "everyone does it and like we are TOTALLY tired of talking about it so...let's let it go ok?"

Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 10:54 PM (Z8FFX)

236
That Clapper has always struck me as a doofus, like he's half retarded or something. A big dummy.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:54 PM (8O3HH)

237 The crowning dark comedic moment in all this criminality will be when the charges are finally filed against those who deserve it and the lefties will scream that it's all "political." And then I'm going to start punching people.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 10:54 PM (zuaBT)

238 My thanks to all the top sockpuppeteers, but most especially the prolific Miklos, for driving me off the top ten sockers list.

Posted by: mindful webworker - socket toomey at May 20, 2018 10:50 PM (ECLlc)

Easy. I get my socks at Goodwill or on Ebay. Cheap.

Posted by: Miklos just bought striped socks for .79 at May 20, 2018 10:55 PM (zCyNd)

239 That Brennan seems either supremely cocky or terrified.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 10:55 PM (nBr1j)

240 "The succesful mating females do mouth things." Don't they do hummingbird stuff on flowers? Still, the ears are what make me turgid.

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 10:56 PM (mk9aG)

241 The original ghetto was the Jewish neighborhood of Venice. The word is derived for the Italian word for "borough", or town.

Huh. Was it 'bourghetto', or something like that?

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 10:56 PM (w1zJX)

242 >> Still, the ears are what make me turgid.

Aural sex?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:56 PM (8O3HH)

243 pits are the bomb

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:52 PM (MTjB1)

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That they are. Spartus is my younger brother and the big dumb sonofabeyotch knows it.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 10:57 PM (8ZeGS)

244 Adam Baldwin on Twitter just posted the question of whether Brennan could be a flight risk.


Especially if it turns out he never studied how to land.

Posted by: Miklos, hanging judge at May 20, 2018 10:57 PM (zCyNd)

245 while making the top ten commenters or sock puppeteers list is a sign of being disturbed, topping both lists requires immediate institutionalization.



Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:57 PM (MTjB1)

246 As a point to consider, what is the obligation of a public figure if they are informed that a crime has been committed at the highest levels of government and that there are documents to prove it?

If you asked me 10 years ago I would have said that the public figure in question should take them, review them, and hand them over to the appropriate authorities.

If you believe the FNM this is what Trump tried to do with the document showing Hillary stole the primary election* for which they claim he is guilty of treason. This is also what McCain did for which they are lauding him as a hero.

*As we know it was a DNC staffer who leaked the documents right before he was conveniently murdered.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 10:57 PM (Z8FFX)

247
The classical music playlist I hope to make available to the Horde sometime has reached about 800 of its projected 1000 pieces, representing the works of some 380 different composers so far. It includes all periods from Renaissance to contemporary and all genres from orchestral to vocal to instrumental.

While I'm in no great rush to finish it, it may be done by the end of the summer. For me, it's an educational experience.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 10:57 PM (bji+C)

248 I'd read that the statute of limitations has run out for Lois Lerner, amongst others, for their shennagans during the previous administration...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 10:57 PM (e9G8E)

249 The succesful mating females do mouth things.

It's Science.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:52 PM (5Se9q)

You saying Bruce has video?

Posted by: Bat Girl at May 20, 2018 10:58 PM (zCyNd)

250 Brenna is the archetype of the arrogant entitled elitist class that runs this country, embedded in all the Deep State agencies. Absolute contempt and condescension toward the regular American.

This bunch needs to be cleaned out.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:58 PM (8O3HH)

251 Turning lurking mode back on. G'night everyone.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 10:58 PM (8ZeGS)

252 I remember the one time I made the wall of shame. It was not a good time in my life.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 10:58 PM (nBr1j)

253 Had lots of bats in my house until I got the wall repaired. I keep sweep nets handy to put them outside. Tenant had put sticky traps in basement. I found one stuck and very carefully released him. I have a big heart, and very stupid brain.

Ugly Illinois bats. Not fruit bats.

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (mk9aG)

254 Seriously? We arre going to starve again? Gees. That was predicted in the 60's. But hey, technology an shit. I cant wait till i can drop a pill in water and it turns into a live fish. Now that's fishing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (aljs9)

255 Bernard Lewis' Political Language of Islam was a classic, and so was The Arabs In History.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (6FqZa)

256 So will Rosenstein, in the end, be found to have been on team Trump or team Brennan?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (Z8FFX)

257 Brenna is the archetype of the arrogant entitled elitist class that runs this country, embedded in all the Deep State agencies. Absolute contempt and condescension toward the regular American.

This bunch needs to be cleaned out.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May




more inclined to go with brennan is a less sophisticated kim philby.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (MTjB1)

258 Is that a record for socks, slightly modifying your nic to fit every single comment?

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (w1zJX)

259 Overconfidence:

Cyclists near Seattle tried scaring mountain lion before fatal attack: 'Something was wrong with this cougar'

SEATTLE - The two mountain bikers did what they were supposed to do when they noticed a mountain lion tailing them on a trail east of Seattle.

They got off their bikes. They faced the beast, shouted and tried to spook it. After it charged, one even smacked the cougar with his bike, and it ran off.

It wasn't enough, authorities said.

As they stood trying to catch their breath, the cougar returned, biting one of them on the head and shaking him, Capt. Alan Myers of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Police said Sunday.

The second cyclist ran, and the animal dropped the first victim and pounced on him, killing him and dragging him back to what appeared to be its den.

"They did everything they were supposed to do," King County sheriff's Sgt. Ryan Abbott said. "But something was wrong with this cougar."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (+y/Ru)

260 how was your weekend, joncelli ?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (6FqZa)

261 Statutes of limitation don't run out if there are sealed indictments, right? And there are several tens of thousands of sealed indictments waiting to be opened like Pandora's box as this whole show goes live.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (UI5zK)

262 Also, I am pretty sure the term 'Bat Shit Crazy' is a Medical Term.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (5Se9q)

263 Y5!

Wow....you are not on top ten list

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (mMeIQ)

264 the original house of cards was much better than the netflix version.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (MTjB1)

265 I've been waiting for months for Nip to turn up and tell us what a great Senator Thom has been.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (FJXGr)



Ha. He was a nut-hugger in the NC statehouse and he's a nut-hugger now. Only difference is whose nuts he's hugging.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (vbvxt)

266 WDS!



Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (MTjB1)

267 One wonders what the average 50s era Democrat would have thought if you told them in the future a Dem president appointed a communist to head the CIA, and that said communist conspired with a social state (Britain) and RUSSIA to break down an American president.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (Z8FFX)

268 Brennan could be a flight risk.
Especially if it turns out he never studied how to land.
Posted by: Miklos,


iswydt

Posted by: muhammad atta, in jahannam at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (6FqZa)

269 >>"They did everything they were supposed to do," King County sheriff's Sgt. Ryan Abbott said. "But something was wrong with this cougar."


It was really fuckin hungry.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (5Se9q)

270 Statutes of limitation don't run out if there are sealed indictments, right? And there are several tens of thousands of sealed indictments waiting to be opened like Pandora's box as this whole show goes live.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (UI5zK)
+++++++++++
This is a very interesting take on the sealed indictments. I hope you're on to something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (hYcqw)

271 252 I remember the one time I made the wall of shame. It was not a good time in my life.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 10:58 PM (nBr1j)

Once for me too. Heidi pointed it out. I told her i had been working really hard and got busted. Shes in Virginia MN now but.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (aljs9)

272 Illinois bats. I hate Illinois bats.

Posted by: Jake Blues at May 20, 2018 11:01 PM (EzdLW)

273 "Members of the jury, my client, Mr. Brennan, after a lifetime of public service and voting for commies, may have taken a few liberties with the Constitution (and he did-wink).

Posted by: Otter for the defense at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (zCyNd)

274 It's not bat shit, it's guano. So guano crazy. But that doesn't have the harsh consonants that make the original version work.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (UI5zK)

275 "Starbucks Grill" by Hon Denley
(based on Sunset Grill)

Let's go down to the Starbucks Grill
We can watch the working girls (who used to be guys) go by
Meet the "basket people" livin' in the restroom
And stare out at the auburn sky

Down at the Starbucks grill...

We won't leave 'til impeachment
Meanwhile, have more buds and beer
What would we do without all these SJWs anyway?
Besides, we have to live here

Down at the Starbucks grill...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (eMKNe)

276

Extinctions down? Its almost as if global warming is a good thing.

Yeah, it'd really just be too bad if the planet warmed up and we had more places to grow food because food likes warm weather.

That'd almost be the perfect thing for a growing population, wouldn't it? But not for AGW psychos. Any change means OMG!!!11 THE SKY IS FALLING AND WE'REALLGONNA DIE!1111!!!1eleventy!11

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (GdWl+)

277 Hey everybody.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (eMKNe)

278 while making the top ten commenters or sock puppeteers list is a sign of being disturbed, topping both lists requires immediate institutionalization.

Posted by: yankeefifth
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It was very rainy this week. It was either this place, or cabin fever.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (cp1if)

279 "They did everything they were supposed to do," King County sheriff's Sgt. Ryan Abbott said. "But something was wrong with this cougar."

Definitely something wrong with the cougar if he didn't act according to the experts' wishes.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 11:02 PM (FJXGr)

280 >>Hey everybody.


Yo Stevie.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:03 PM (5Se9q)

281 "But something was wrong with this cougar."

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Yeah, he's a ghetto cat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:03 PM (+y/Ru)

282 "Cyclists near Seattle" Why would anyone go out without a gun? That's ignorant.

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 11:03 PM (mk9aG)

283 It was very rainy this week. It was either this place, or cabin fever.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May





lots of people will have to make that choice now that the feds closed backpage down.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:03 PM (MTjB1)

284
I remember seething with contempt for Brennan several years ago when he was at something giving a speech, and condescending to everyone.

He refers to Jerusalem as "Al Quds", the Muzzie name for it. I've despised him with passion ever since seeing that.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 11:03 PM (8O3HH)

285 may have received an email from a friend who was complaining that since backpage was closed down he has no place to window shop for whores.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:04 PM (MTjB1)

286 265 I've been waiting for months for Nip to turn up and tell us what a great Senator Thom has been.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (FJXGr)



Ha. He was a nut-hugger in the NC statehouse and he's a nut-hugger now. Only difference is whose nuts he's hugging.
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 20, 2018 11:00 PM (vbvxt)

-------

I'm about this close || to voting for the Democrat just to make sure Thom Tillis loses.

Posted by: MAGA at May 20, 2018 11:05 PM (XlnE3)

287

Also, I am pretty sure the term 'Bat Shit Crazy' is a Medical Term.


*stares off into the distance...*

"Muldoon. He would know..."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 11:05 PM (GdWl+)

288 I hope that whatever was "wrong" with that cougar isn't genetic... Or contagious...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 11:05 PM (e9G8E)

289 257 - yankeefifth

Just to remind folks who Brennan really is...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/
997962456407330816.html

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 20, 2018 11:05 PM (W+kMI)

290
Bats carry a lot of diseases that can adversly affect humans. Love your bats from afar.
Posted by: garrett


There are charter members of National Man Bat Love Association here!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 11:05 PM (IqV8l)

291 I have run into Cougars a few times while on my bike.
It's not a fun experience.
Bears, too. Though they aren't looking to eat you. Just fuck you up.

Because, hey - I'm a Bear.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (5Se9q)

292 What the f**k is the problem w/ entry in to HS? Stop this and it won't be a problem.

Posted by: Farmer at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (yJ1e6)

293 I just gotta go to Starbucks with a Dutch Brothers cawfee and a box of Dunkin Donuts.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (aljs9)

294 Brennan wouldn't like it here.

Posted by: muhammad atta, in jahannam at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (6FqZa)

295 277 Hey everybody.


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (+lOpA)

296 So will Rosenstein, in the end, be found to have been on team Trump or team Brennan?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (Z8FFX)


Team Rosenstein.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (FDnQi)

297 Hola Senor Esteban!

Posted by: Miklos se puede! at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (zCyNd)

298 " the original house of cards was much better than the netflix version." Loved the original! Love the Netflix version!

Posted by: gp at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (mk9aG)

299
Bats carry a lot of diseases that can adversly affect humans. Love your bats from afar.
Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM



Yasiel Puig must be immune, or have a teflon tongue.

Posted by: Hands at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (EzdLW)

300 Statutes of limitation don't run out if there are sealed indictments, right?

Oh, please, God- a new TV series: "Trumpac the Magnificent". I'm not sure who would be his Ed McMahon. Adam Carolla? Yeah, I'd watch that.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (5OO3x)

301 Ordinary bats get a bad rep about those diseases. Entirely unwarranted fake news. The vampire bats, on the other hand.... Well, it's good to wear a necklace of garlic when around those dudes.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (UI5zK)

302 I'm drinking something called Prickly Pear Vodka produced by a local distillery. Slightly odd flavour, but I'm getting used to it.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (nBr1j)

303 Just to remind folks who Brennan really is...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/
997962456407330816.html
Posted by: CPT. Charles at May




nice piece

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (MTjB1)

304 Northernlurker: the secret ingredient is hydrofluoric acid...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (eMKNe)

305 If cougars only weren't food insecure they wouldn't have to kill and eat people.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 11:08 PM (aljs9)

306 Shocker: Venezuela election board says Maduro wins.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:09 PM (zuaBT)

307 We should give the cougars something to eat. Like, er, Democrats would be a good choice. And commies. Yeah, like that.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:09 PM (UI5zK)

308 Ruthless: they've got extra fiber!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:09 PM (eMKNe)

309

"But something was wrong with this cougar."

Which really means, "QC fucked up somewhere."

Prep for when those Boston Dynamics' Spot Minis get turned loose to terrorize humans.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 11:09 PM (GdWl+)

310 302 I'm drinking something called Prickly Pear Vodka produced by a local distillery. Slightly odd flavour, but I'm getting used to it.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:07 PM (nBr1j)

So its made from cactus?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (aljs9)

311 Yesterday we did the state slogan thing...

Anyway, today on Quora, there's a thing: "Truthful slogans of major companies." Here's mine:

BMW: "Because I'm better than you"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)

312 Bring on the Tillis. I'll meet you with one Lindsey, and we'll trade 'em both for Manziel back from the Canadian League.

Posted by: Miklos current voter for Templeton at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (zCyNd)

313 Bysshe

I'm sorry but that is really just the most retarded name one could possibly come up with. And the spelling is ridiculous, to boot.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (uSurQ)

314 Farmer......made your deviled ham dip this week! Yummy!

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (mMeIQ)

315 the original house of cards was much better than the netflix version." Loved the original! Love the Netflix version!
Posted by: gp at May



when I started watching the netflix version I did not realize it was a knock off of the british version. would not have ever thought of it until kevin spacey started using the phrase "I could not possibly comment" phrase. then you notice the relationship with the young reporter. he even has a right hand man named stamper.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (MTjB1)

316 Pound for pound, cats are probably the most dangerous *natural* predators (obviously not including a Marine Recon unit).

I think the mustelids beat the felines by a bit in the pound-for-pound predation thing. Cougars can kill elk and moose, but they get up to 200 pounds or so. Wolverines kill moose, and they only get to about 60 pounds. And the smaller ones (stoats, minks, weasels (slap or otherwise)) are pretty dangerous, too.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:11 PM (JGBbg)

317 A goofy (or goofier) version of the Trump White House would, or at least could, make good comedy.

But our entertainment industry is incapable of making it. It would be bitchy, hostile and paranoid and wouldn't last.

And they'd put Alec Baldwin in, who couldn't convincingly imitate *himself*, as it turns out.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:11 PM (FDnQi)

318 Was hiking a Hetch Hetchy fire trail one bright afternoon when a mountain lion walked across in front of me. Nothing wrong with him. I, on the other hand, was completely fucked and miles from anything.

I got lucky.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 11:11 PM (5OO3x)

319 francis urquhart vs francis underwood.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:11 PM (MTjB1)

320 Actually, cougars should be trained as vegans. It would be good for their health, good for Gaia, and good for the safety of stupid people who jog around in the mountains wiggling their little asses so they look like the cougar's natural prey, deer. Running attracts the attention of the cats, like ringing a dinner bell for hungry farmers.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:12 PM (UI5zK)

321
Shocker: Venezuela election board says Maduro wins.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)


Six more years! Six more years!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 11:12 PM (IqV8l)

322 Nothing wants to fuck with a Wolverine.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:12 PM (5Se9q)

323 When I'm ready. And that might take a couple of years. I think I might use Craig Ferguson as my role model for approaching women.

Sorry that was irrelevant to anything.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:13 PM (nBr1j)

324 francis urquhart vs francis underwood.

Ian Richardson would beat Spacey by five touchdowns in an act-off.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:13 PM (zuaBT)

325 BMW: "Because I'm better than you"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)

Oldsmobile: "Because I'm your grandfather"

Posted by: Miklos Blue Book at May 20, 2018 11:13 PM (zCyNd)

326 Go fvck yourself.

Cherry Hill East Principal Apologizes to Black Students for 'Party Like It's 1776' Prom Tickets


Absolutely. Fvck them. All of them.

Cherry Hill is for losers, anyway.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:13 PM (uSurQ)

327 I'm a Bear.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:06 PM (5Se9q)

NTTIAWWT

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 11:13 PM (wYseH)

328
Shocker: Venezuela election board says Maduro wins.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:09 PM (zuaBT)


I am informed by Jimmy Carter and the America-hating Left that Venezuelan elections are free and fair. So my sympathy for the Venezuelan people is limited by this being the government they chose.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (IlyUF)

329 Or a honey badger.

Posted by: navybrat, the trill is gone at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (w7KSn)

330 233 Bats carry a lot of diseases that can adversly affect humans. Love your bats from afar.
Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 10:53 PM (5Se9q)


True, but they also eat insects like mosquitoes that carry diseases. So I guess it's a wash.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (sdi6R)

331 Running attracts the attention of the cats, like ringing a dinner bell for hungry farmers.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:12 PM (UI5zK)

They should stop wearing those hats with the horns too. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (aljs9)

332 Ruthless, actually conservatives could make that work. Just convince liberals who jog in those areas that it's better for Gaia if they're completely covered in worcestershire sauce before they start their hike, stuff like that...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (eMKNe)

333 Honey badger would fuck with a wolverine any day. Into the Octagon! Two go in, honey badger comes out.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (UI5zK)

334 >> Nothing wants to fuck with a Wolverine

Hold my beer.

Posted by: Honey Badger at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (8O3HH)

335 ...as soon as I it 'enter'...


I knew.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (5Se9q)

336 Nothing wants to fuck with a Wolverine.
Something does, or we'd have run out of them by now.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (IcT7t)

337 Miklos, LOL.

GMC: "Because I don't know anything about quality"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:15 PM (eMKNe)

338 Nothing wants to fuck with a Wolverine.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 11:12 PM (5Se9q)

Uh, Garrett, your mother wants to tell you a story about where baby wolverines come from...

Posted by: 6th grade biology at May 20, 2018 11:15 PM (zCyNd)

339 Nothing wants to fuck with a Wolverine

Great White Shark on line one. He sounds pissed.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:15 PM (zuaBT)

340 Hearing good things about Deadpool 2.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:16 PM (eMKNe)

341 francis urquhart vs francis underwood.

Ian Richardson would beat Spacey by five touchdowns in an act-off.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May



yep. spacey having admitted to abusing boys does nothing to help his character either. every time he has been giving it to the zoey blake character have to wonder if that is how he used the same moves with the boys.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:16 PM (MTjB1)

342 BMW: "Because I'm better than you"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)


I think that applies to most luxury cars.

I think BMW thinks of itself as the "Goldilocks" luxury car. More reliable than Audi, less reliable than Lexus, more expensive than Volvo, less expensive than Mercedes, haughtier than Jaguar, less so than Rolls Royce.

Unless you get one of those circa-2000-2005 cars where all the electronics fail, in which case it's less reliable than Audi.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:16 PM (FDnQi)

343 The ever useful F word is in this case being used in a less than literal sense. Analogy and shit like that.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:16 PM (UI5zK)

344 239 That Brennan seems either supremely cocky or terrified.
Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem



Insulated. He and his comrades have gotten away with criminality for decades. They don't believe anything will happen to them because they are 'Good' and do 'Good' things for 'Good' reasons. Pure as the driven snow they are.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 11:16 PM (pY+s4)

345 Mervign, hmmm :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:16 PM (eMKNe)

346
Back in my 20s, I wanted some good work boots. I was told Wolverine boots were the best. Expensive. Well, the sole came off the first pair in no time, and I traded 'em in for another pair. Same thing.

IIRC, they were having quality control problems. Anyway, I just said the hell with it and have been buying El-Cheapo work boots ever since. If they wear out soon, no great loss.

Posted by: Honey Badger at May 20, 2018 11:17 PM (8O3HH)

347 kindltot--Wow! That is a fabulous video. I wonder what it is like to run that fast, that freely...thanks!

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:17 PM (X+6iw)

348 Merovign, hmmm :-)
(wanted to get the name right)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:17 PM (eMKNe)

349 The Cosa Nostra used to think they were invincible, too. Now they hide under their beds while MS-13 comes looking for them. Analogy: Trump is MS-13, but without the tats.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:18 PM (UI5zK)

350 Great White Shark on line one. He sounds pissed.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:15 PM (zuaBT)


Great White Sharks grow a new set of teeth every thirty days.

They're not angry, they're just teething.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:18 PM (FDnQi)

351 Ferrari: "you wish, tiny penis man"

Posted by: Miklos, not a good salesman at May 20, 2018 11:18 PM (zCyNd)

352 I think that applies to most luxury cars.

I think BMW thinks of itself as the "Goldilocks" luxury car. More reliable than Audi, less reliable than Lexus, more expensive than Volvo, less expensive than Mercedes, haughtier than Jaguar, less so than Rolls Royce.

Unless you get one of those circa-2000-2005 cars where all the electronics fail, in which case it's less reliable than Audi.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May



really? I always thought bmw was only concerned with competing with mercedes. they were the sporty and less luxurious.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:19 PM (MTjB1)

353 Anyway, today on Quora, there's a thing: "Truthful slogans of major companies." Here's mine:

BMW: "Because I'm better than you"


That was a movie back in the 90s. "Crazy People". Sanitarium inmates making honest ads. "Volvo: They're boxy, but they're good!"

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:19 PM (JGBbg)

354 (wanted to get the name right)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:17 PM (eMKNe)


Well, somebody had to, sooner or later.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:19 PM (FDnQi)

355 I am informed by Jimmy Carter and the America-hating Left that Venezuelan elections are free and fair. So my sympathy for the Venezuelan people is limited by this being the government they chose.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 11:14 PM (IlyUF)



I feel bad for the ones who Did Not Want This. But otherwise.....

Saw a youtube by a couple guys who went down there. Everywhere are signs prohibiting guns and smoking(???).

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 11:20 PM (+lOpA)

356 I saw Deadpool 2 this weekend with Teh Elder Spawn... It was 'OK'...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 11:20 PM (e9G8E)

357 Great White Sharks grow a new set of teeth every thirty days.

They're not angry, they're just teething.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May




well, the thing you should be afraid of is whatever is knocking the teeth out of great whites so often that they have to keep re-growing them.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:20 PM (MTjB1)

358 Repeat after me everyone with a brain: Malthusians are always wrong. Always.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 20, 2018 10:33 PM (0/0WS)


I swear, I am going to have to learn everyone about the Essay on the Principal of Population, which is quite explicitly a discussion on why the socialist dreams of equality will not only not work, they will cause greater misery.
First part is a discussion on poor relief and market economies, the second is an argument against Condorcet, and the third is a severe criticism of Reverend Godwin; both were looking at the perfectibility of mankind.

Anyhow, Malthus wrote this paragraph describing the failure of the implied contract between the subject and his political master who had gained power by promising to solve all those economic problems by enforcing social restraints:

" To prevent the recurrence of misery, is, alas! beyond the power of man. In the vain endeavour to attain what in the nature of things is impossible, we now sacrifice not only possible but certain benefits. We tell the common people that if they will submit to a code of tyrannical regulations, they shall never be in want. They do submit to these regulations. They perform their part of the contract, but we do not, nay cannot, perform ours, and thus the poor sacrifice the valuable blessing of liberty and receive nothing that can be called an equivalent in return.


It is free on Gutenberg. I encourage everyone to read at least the first third.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 11:20 PM (2K6fY)

359 mikeski, oh yeah. Volvos are basically mini-tanks with windows.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:21 PM (eMKNe)

360 brennan is terrified.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:21 PM (MTjB1)

361 Monday's a holiday in Canada. The weekend's still here. Hoo Ray.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 20, 2018 11:22 PM (IeDO8)

362 so, watching Sliders again...

is it just me or is Rembrandt a whiney high pitched 1990s Stepin Fetchit? Jar Jar just called and said, 'ex-squeeeeeeze me, yousa supa supa annoying'

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:22 PM (6FqZa)

363 brennan knows someone is going to order him to get naked in a tub full of hot water and hand him a glass of water, a handful of aspirin and a razor blade.

spacey style.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:22 PM (MTjB1)

364 brennan is terrified.
Posted by: yankeefifth


That would explain why I saw him at Target the other day buying Depends in bulk.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (eMKNe)

365 Unless you get one of those circa-2000-2005 cars where all the electronics fail, in which case it's less reliable than Audi.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May



really? I always thought bmw was only concerned with competing with mercedes. they were the sporty and less luxurious.
Posted by: yankeefifth

BMW's were always supposed to be a driver's car. And the older ones, up to the millenium, were actually built to be worked on by their owners, if they had a mind to. try that with some Japanese Luxury car. Or just about any Japanese car. But not any more. BMW changes their building approach and now they are just like everyone else.
And MB owners have cognitive dissonance. There are ALWAYS things going wrong with Mercedes Benz's. Their reliability is only as good as the extensive preventive maintenance you are supposed to perform....at the dealer.

And don't get me started with Audi's. They are fun to drive and very expensive to maintain. Everything is a thousand dollars.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (S6Pax)

366 GMC: "Because I don't know anything about quality"

GMC: "Support your UAW pensioners! Buy a truck!"

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (JGBbg)

367 About twenty years ago I realized that no one I had ever talked to had actually read Malthus. I bought his essay, actually a small book of 160 pages or so as I recall, and learned just what Kindltot says above, which is directly opposite to what most people, in their ignorance, think Malthus was about. He was a leading economist of his age, BTW, and that was before economics mostly went guano crazy.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (UI5zK)

368 Volvos are basically mini-tanks with windows.

I miss my S70. Great car.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (zuaBT)

369 publius--
I am with you. When I heard that POS Brennan say "al quds,' I wanted to vomit. I thought right then, "This man is a traitor. We will find out he is a Muslim Aldrich Ames."

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (X+6iw)

370 Yeah tillis is the gift that keeps on giving. And nip was in state government when it sucked too

Posted by: NCKate at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (6WXhH)

371 >>brennan knows someone is going to order him to get naked in a tub full of hot water


This is never a good plan.

Posted by: Jean - Paul Marat at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (5Se9q)

372 Socialism always ends in genocide and starvation.

...simple premise.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (Ckg4U)

373 That would explain why I saw him at Target the other day buying Depends in bulk.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May



lol

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (MTjB1)

374 I think Malthus was roughly accurate on his calculations.

The more Democrats there are, the more are hungry and on food stamps.

Do the math.

Posted by: Miklos v. Filburn at May 20, 2018 11:24 PM (zCyNd)

375 328
Shocker: Venezuela election board says Maduro wins.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:09 PM (zuaBT)

I am informed by Jimmy Carter and the America-hating Left that Venezuelan elections are free and fair. So my sympathy for the Venezuelan people is limited by this being the government they chose.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh



Every single Venezuelan could have voted against Maduro and he still would have won. Its not who votes. Its who counts them.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 11:24 PM (pY+s4)

376 so, watching Sliders again...
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:22 PM (6FqZa)
+++++++
Nice to know that I'm not the only lunatic. It's been a while for me but I occasionally revisit it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 11:24 PM (hYcqw)

377 volvos always seem to mumble I have had enough excitement, forever.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:24 PM (MTjB1)

378 mikeski, oh yeah. Volvos are basically mini-tanks with windows.

That was a quote from the movie; I can take no credit.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:25 PM (JGBbg)

379 volvo should never have quit making the 240, should have simply kept refining and improving.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:25 PM (MTjB1)

380 I think Ferrari is "People who tell you that money can't buy happiness don't have enough money."

Lamborghini used to be "MMMBLLAAAAAARGH," but now that Audi owns them it's "*ahem* MMMBLLAAAAAARGH!"

Koenigsegg's is, of course, "If you can spell it without checking you can order a stereo with it."

Toyota is "Let's face it, you really needed family car anyway."

Honda is "Why don't people accept that we're better than Toyota?"

GM is all like "Well they don't sell Renaults here anymore, so somebody has to build cars inconsistently."

Ford is in the corner with a rope talking about how they can't go on making cars anymore, surrounded by piles of truck money.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:26 PM (FDnQi)

381 I am with you. When I heard that POS Brennan say "al quds,' I wanted to vomit. I thought right then, "This man is a traitor. We will find out he is a Muslim Aldrich Ames."

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (X+6iw)


You could have said that about pretty much anyone in barky's junta, Barky most of all.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:26 PM (uSurQ)

382 Hello, ONT!

>>>And folks, do scroll on through and check out
Saturday Night Sidebood. Got a nice apron and kitchen theme there.
That's one of my favorites, of course.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 10:42 PM (8O3HH)

I have an apron. It has a sea turtle on it. I wear it when frying, to keep my boobs blister-free.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 11:26 PM (iTpm7)

383 Venezuela didn't need an election, it needed a revolution. Viva la Revolucion!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:26 PM (UI5zK)

384
Brennan saying "Al Quds" and don't tell the plebes what I just said in Arabic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGe_lVYxDw

Posted by: Honey Badger at May 20, 2018 11:27 PM (8O3HH)

385 Volvos... they're bulky but they're safe.

/some movie starring Dudley Moore.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 11:27 PM (Ckg4U)

386 FIAT: "My cousin Tony needs work"

Posted by: Miklos v. Agnelli at May 20, 2018 11:27 PM (zCyNd)

387 think Ferrari is "People who tell you that money can't buy happiness don't have enough money."

Lamborghini used to be "MMMBLLAAAAAARGH," but now that Audi owns them it's "*ahem* MMMBLLAAAAAARGH!"

Koenigsegg's is, of course, "If you can spell it without checking you can order a stereo with it."

Toyota is "Let's face it, you really needed family car anyway."

Honda is "Why don't people accept that we're better than Toyota?"

GM is all like "Well they don't sell Renaults here anymore, so somebody has to build cars inconsistently."

Ford is in the corner with a rope talking about how they can't go on making cars anymore, surrounded by piles of truck money.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May




LOL



Sinatra said, "you buy a ferrari when you want to be somebody, you buy a Lamborghini when you are somebody."

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:27 PM (MTjB1)

388 Brennan doesn't give a shit because he knows that no Deep-State actor has ever been held to account and none ever will.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (kWrQ3)

389 Nice to know that I'm not the only lunatic. It's been a while for me but I occasionally revisit it.***
Netflix made a very similar pilot/movie called Parallels.
A group of accidentally thrown together people move through alternate realities. Only they were trying to make a coherent plot as to why it was happening.

Would have been great if they continued it...


Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (Z8FFX)

390 And you buy an Oldsmobile when you're somebody's father.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (UI5zK)

391 I'll take a Lotus, please. No need for a slogan, just the car. Thanks.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (X+6iw)

392 Belated greetings to you, Ladyl! I was speaking to a slapweasel. They're good talkers, they are! Entertaining.

I have not read anything whatsoever about the royal wedding. I was not invited. I'm miffed.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (iTpm7)

393 volvos always seem to mumble I have had enough excitement, forever.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:24 PM (MTjB1)

I occasionally drive my wife's S80, and it is a fine car. Rock solid at 100mph+ on the highway, and very responsive on windy roads.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (wYseH)

394 I think Ferrari is "People who tell you that money can't buy happiness don't have enough money."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:26 PM (FDnQi)


And when they come up against a car they can't beat (an AC Shelby Cobra, say) then cheating is the Ferrari way.

That said, the 308GTS remains one of the most beautiful cars, ever.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (uSurQ)

395 Every single Venezuelan could have voted against Maduro and he still would have won. Its not who votes. Its who counts them.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 11:24 PM (pY+s4)


I read an article about the election earlier today. Apparently Maduro's campaign largely consisted of dire predictions of unrest and violence if he lost. That's probably because his goons would have been the ones causing the unrest and violence.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (sdi6R)

396 LadyTheo, fresh out. How about a nice Aston Martin? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (eMKNe)

397 Rolls-Royce: "If you have to ask, Your Majesty, you can't afford it"

Posted by: Miklos , driving on the right at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (zCyNd)

398 43 Brennan, Strzok, and others talked themselves into enough of a lather repeating left-wing propaganda that they decided it was worth abusing their power as government employees.

Somewhat like every group of jackasses does, from corrupt county sheriffs to CEOs that dump toxic waste in remote communities to slavers to dictators.

People are so good at imagining that we can imagine an excuse for *anything*.

Personally I think Brennan is too smug to be a flight risk, but I've never met the man.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

Your post seems to suggest that they weren't taking orders from above (WH), which I'm confident they were.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (IeDO8)

399 I miss my S70. Great car.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (zuaBT)


Oh and don't get me started on my V70 turbo.

I moved down to a VW because bad choices and excuses.

If that trajectory continues my next car will have Hot Wheels written on the bottom.

P.S. not all Volvos are boring.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (FDnQi)

400 And you buy an Oldsmobile when you're somebody's father.

Or an antique car dude or a time traveler. Oldsmobiles went the way of the dodo.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:30 PM (zuaBT)

401 Actually, cougars should be trained as vegans.

-
After the revolution, new soviet cougars will be vegetarian.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:30 PM (+y/Ru)

402 Brennan doesn't give a shit because he knows that no Deep-State actor has ever been held to account and none ever will.***
Back when we had a national security apparatus that could do more then just make pee-pee dossiers and not catch Islamists, someone like Brennan would have been handled via a "plane crash".
Like Ron Brown but less convenient for the Clintons.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 20, 2018 11:30 PM (Z8FFX)

403 qdpsteve,
Hmmm. Nope. Look under the bed and between the couch cushions-could be one hiding there.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:30 PM (X+6iw)

404 Aston Martin: "Please consult warranty before driving under water"

Posted by: Miklos , swimming on the right at May 20, 2018 11:31 PM (zCyNd)

405 I'll take a Lotus, please. No need for a slogan, just the car. Thanks.

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:28 PM (X+6iw)


I had a friend in high school whose dad had a Lotus. He put all of his mechanic's kids through college and provided the downpayments for each of their first two houses.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:31 PM (uSurQ)

406 Starbucks: Smell the smug.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:31 PM (+y/Ru)

407 Saab used to make jet fighter planes. Volvo used to make beer wagons. True fact.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:31 PM (UI5zK)

408 I occasionally drive my wife's S80, and it is a fine car. Rock solid at 100mph+ on the highway, and very responsive on windy roads.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May




well, compared with your Buick.




//

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 11:31 PM (MTjB1)

409 OT, but why would anyone put a cannon on a B1-B? Not like it can fly slowly.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (xFZUI)

410 P.S. not all Volvos are boring.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (FDnQi)

The back seats are comfy!

Posted by: Miklos recalling classic blonde jokes at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (zCyNd)

411 Good for you Miley

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (mMeIQ)

412 LadyTheo, the title '007' means nothing to you?? ;-)

Is it just me or are Bentleys kind of vulgar looking? Or maybe it's just that there's always some flash-in-the-pan half-wit rapper driving them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (eMKNe)

413 >> I have an apron. It has a sea turtle on it. I wear it when frying, to keep my boobs blister-free.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess

I now identify as a sea turtle. I hope you need to find a lime for your recipe.

Posted by: publius, Gloveless, at the ficus at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (8O3HH)

414 It's the Chavez voters I'm referring to. Chavez begat Maduro. (obviously)

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (+lOpA)

415 Hollywood: You'll watch what you're told and like it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:33 PM (+y/Ru)

416 I read an article about the election earlier today. Apparently Maduro's campaign largely consisted of dire predictions of unrest and violence if he lost. That's probably because his goons would have been the ones causing the unrest and violence.

"Nice country you got there. Shame if something were to happen to it."

"Dude, you already happened to it."

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:33 PM (JGBbg)

417 Oldsmobiles were just spiffed-down Caddys, and Buicks were spiffed-up Chevys. Pontiacs were just, well, strange. Kind of like cuckoos in the GM nest.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:33 PM (UI5zK)

418 >> I was not invited. I'm miffed.

From what I've read, you had to be a moonbat SJW to be invited to that.

Posted by: publius, of Vae at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (8O3HH)

419 miklos and Primordial, LOLs. :-)

Anon, that's their old slogan. The new Starbucks slogan is "sure go ahead and crash on the couch for the next 19 hours, it's not like we can stop you." :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (eMKNe)

420
I was being dry about Venezuela. Should Maduro be toppled the America-hating Left would just say we sabotaged them. Couldn't have been the inherent failures of the Bolivarian system, no never.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (NInPf)

421 Or an antique car dude or a time traveler. Oldsmobiles went the way of the dodo.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:30 PM (zuaBT)

Not true. The LeScimitar sells well in certain markets.

Posted by: Miklos recalling classic car names at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (zCyNd)

422 I don't know why anyone is surprised by the Venezuela vote. Those are the same people who kept voting Chavez in over and over and over. They're retarded and masochistic.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (uSurQ)

423 Joe Mannix: a lot of the first-season eps were #woke and obnoxious, after the anti-Soviet pilot.

There was a string of them: the Ollie North world, the Crown Provinces of America world (where Rush Limbaugh supported the King), the no-penicillin world (where The Rich deliberately infected the people), the female-dominant world (making a point about male privilege).

Also Fox did a Firefly on Sliders and screened the eps out of order, for the first three(!) seasons.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (6FqZa)

424 By coincidence, I, too, was not invited to the Royal Wedding. Hmmpf.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:35 PM (UI5zK)

425 Mountain lion was unhealthy and couldn't catch deer so it turned to slow, clumsy human prey.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 20, 2018 11:35 PM (84F5k)

426 This is the first week in ages that my name hasn't been on the Wall of Shame. How can that be?!

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 11:36 PM (LC8hC)

427 Or an antique car dude or a time traveler. Oldsmobiles went the way of the dodo.
--------

Well, there is the '78 Cutlass Calais in my garage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 11:36 PM (y3sT9)

428 Oldsmobiles were just spiffed-down Caddys, and Buicks were spiffed-up Chevys. Pontiacs were just, well, strange. Kind of like cuckoos in the GM nest.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:33 PM (UI5zK)


Everything GM did was competing with *someone* (not always very well).

Cadillac competed with luxury foreign cars (and its own past). Pontiac competed with sporty foreign cars. Chevrolet competed with Ford. Buick competed with Cadillac for people who couldn't afford Cadillacs. GMC competed with commercial truck manufacturers. Oldsmobile competed with Buick, and lost.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:37 PM (FDnQi)

429 Target: Reliving yourself in our restrooms is not only convenient, it's an adventurous learning experience.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:37 PM (+y/Ru)

430 Also Fox did a Firefly on Sliders and screened the eps out of order, for the first three(!) seasons.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (6FqZa)


Ever since Memento everyone is doing that ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:37 PM (uSurQ)

431 Those are the same people who kept voting Chavez in over and over and over.

To his credit, Chavez was Albert Einstein/Adam Smith/Isaac Newton/Benjamin Franklin/Winston Churchill compared to Maduro.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:37 PM (zuaBT)

432 Venezuela is no more a free country than Stalin's USSR. Uncle Joe got 99% of the votes and the other one percent was sent to Siberia or shot in the back of the head with a bill for the bullet going to his or her family. History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes, as someone who I forget who once wisely said.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (UI5zK)

433 260 how was your weekend, joncelli ?
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (6FqZa)

I've got my sleep patterns turned around because my doctor raised the dose on my blood pressure meds. It was like the '90s when I worked from 3 to midnight. Annoying. Luckily I was able to roll out of the sack and get some mowing done in the interim between incessant rain showers here in My chunk of PA.

I see you went to a rally, how did that go?

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (1FhAQ)

434 I now identify as a sea turtle. I hope you need to find a lime for your recipe.

Posted by: publius, Gloveless, at the ficus at May 20, 2018 11:32 PM (8O3HH)

There are limes in the crisper. It's a drawer at the bottom of the fridge.
Gloveless, you say?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (iTpm7)

435 The Paolo, he may have been invited to the Royal Honeymoon. When bride does not make the vow to obey and when the pastor makes the wedding all about the justice social, this is the music to the ear of the Paolo.

Posted by: Paolo at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (6FqZa)

436 This is the first week in ages that my name hasn't been on the Wall of Shame. How can that be?!
Posted by: Surfperch
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Shirker. I was counting on you to push me off the list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (y3sT9)

437 Well, there is the '78 Cutlass Calais in my garage.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 11:36 PM (y3sT9)

Next to the stuffed dodo.

Everybody wins!

Posted by: Miklos, conflict resolution consultant at May 20, 2018 11:39 PM (zCyNd)

438 Starbucks: "We never close, 'cuz the bums never leave"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:39 PM (eMKNe)

439 Time: Buy our magazine, please!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:39 PM (+y/Ru)

440 Chavez just went to Cuba and asked them what to do. They developed his economic plan.

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 11:39 PM (+lOpA)

441 "They did everything they were supposed to do," King County sheriff's Sgt. Ryan Abbott said. "But something was wrong with this cougar."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 10:59 PM (+y/Ru)

Except, perhaps, leaving their personal security to chance. A firearm would have left this a local news story.

And that victim who was killed and dragged to the den? It was a woman.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 11:40 PM (Dp6qK)

442 joncelli: went well (apart from nearly getting run over). I am glad I went. Lots of support from passing cars.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:40 PM (6FqZa)

443 Buy this magazine or we will shoot this cute puppy. Really, we're serious this time.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:40 PM (UI5zK)

444 I'm thinking about taking a trip to Norway. It would not be cheap, but I'm giving it serious thought.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:40 PM (nBr1j)

445 Shirker. I was counting on you to push me off the list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (y3sT9)

Not shirker. Hoarder, more like. We know how to deal with commenter Kulaks.

Posted by: "Miklos" Dzerzsinsky at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (zCyNd)

446 I wish I could appear on the Hall of Shame list.

Not having the time to screw around is simultaneously a plus and a minus.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (Ckg4U)

447 To his credit, Chavez was Albert Einstein/Adam Smith/Isaac Newton/Benjamin Franklin/Winston Churchill compared to Maduro.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:37 PM (zuaBT)


Chavez bankrupted a prosperous country, persecuted his political enemies, had gangs of thugs hound reporters and critics, and his family stole billions of dollars from peasants and merchants and foreign companies.

Maduro's basically the same person, he just started without a prosperous country.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (FDnQi)

448 And that victim who was killed and dragged to the den? It was a woman.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 11:40 PM (Dp6qK)



Strange they left that detail out.

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (+lOpA)

449 Deep State: We must, indeed hang together or, assuredly we will hang separately.

Posted by: Ripley at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (NbRJx)

450 Norway is stunningly beautiful. I've motorhomed up and down that country three times and every turn in the road give you more amazing landscapes.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (UI5zK)

451 History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes, as someone who I forget who once wisely said.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:38 PM (UI5zK)

Samuel Clemens.

Posted by: a source close to the matter at May 20, 2018 11:42 PM (zCyNd)

452 slow, clumsy UNARMED human prey.

/the flounder out front shoulda told you.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:42 PM (6FqZa)

453 446 I wish I could appear on the Hall of Shame list.

Not having the time to screw around is simultaneously a plus and a minus.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (Ckg4U)

I was on there just once, during the worst time in my life. So I'm happy to not get back to it.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:42 PM (nBr1j)

454 Time: Buy our magazine, please!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:39 PM (+y/Ru)


I think I have a dollar around here, in exchange for your company's assets, if any.

It's in change.

Mostly pennies.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:42 PM (FDnQi)

455 Hmm, Samuel Clemens eh? I would have sworn it was Mark Twain.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:43 PM (UI5zK)

456 Tesla: Putting your money to work!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:43 PM (+y/Ru)

457 If you can't figure out hitler rigged election, as did
Stalin, as did Chavez, as our own demorats with slick willy coaching. Well then, stay out of politics until you can live without a nukker in your mouth and no longer need diaper changes. MOVE PAST CLUELESS ! ! !

Posted by: ron n. at May 20, 2018 11:43 PM (MBrFx)

458 I think GM gave up on Pontiac due to them being the mama-bear average. A bit of luxury, but not Caddy level. A bit of power, but not a camaro. A bit of style, but not a corvette. etc.

Buick couldn't be allowed to die, because the badge, for some reason, has a lot of cachet in China.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:43 PM (JGBbg)

459 qdpsteve,
Goose. Of course I am acquainted with Mr. Bond. I do like the Aston. Have never driven one. Have driven a Lotus.

Probably better for all concerned if I stick with my company Ford Escape' (pronounced "ess-cah-pay.")

Posted by: LadyTheo, A harriette through and through. at May 20, 2018 11:43 PM (X+6iw)

460 In a show of support for the Homeless Community we will be changing our name to 'StarBums' effective tomorrow.

Posted by: Starbucks Coffee at May 20, 2018 11:44 PM (LC8hC)

461 -Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:42 PM (nBr1j)

Quite understandable, good Sir.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 11:44 PM (Ckg4U)

462 I miss my S70. Great car.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (zuaBT)
++++++
I had a string of 850s and liked them rather a lot. Their auto transmissions in the early '90s weren't wonderfully reliable (powerplants are a different story). The clutch in the '93s was dreadful - felt like pudding and the friction point was nearly impossible to hit reliably. The 97 with which I replaced it was a dream except the light bulbs. All Volvos of that era just eat bulbs. You know a real Volvo owner by how many spare bulbs he carries.

I quit liking them so well when they downsized and went from boxy to obnoxiously curvy. The early oughts also weren't great from a reliability standpoint, but I haven't looked into it recently.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 11:44 PM (hYcqw)

463 Starbucks: " If we Fight for 15 and get it, will we be safe in the parking lot?"

Posted by: whole bean Miklos at May 20, 2018 11:44 PM (zCyNd)

464 Presdent Obama should do something about this witch hunt Trump wants to do. Trump lied and America died just like Mr. Brennan has said.............

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at May 20, 2018 11:44 PM (qM84C)

465 Mark Penn seems to have been red-pilled.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM (kWrQ3)

466 slow, clumsy UNARMED human prey.

"That was incredible. No fur, claws, horns, antlers, or nothin'. Just soft and pink."

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM (JGBbg)

467 The thing about Venezuela is it *should* be prosperous, and it's a beautiful country.

The history of prosperity isn't *that* hard to learn, that everyone has to screw it up.

People just love the dumb too much.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM (FDnQi)

468 Who will travel to Vermont and rid us of this foul woman?

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM (UI5zK)

469 447 To his credit, Chavez was Albert Einstein/Adam Smith/Isaac Newton/Benjamin Franklin/Winston Churchill compared to Maduro.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 11:37 PM (zuaBT)

Chavez bankrupted a prosperous country, persecuted his political enemies, had gangs of thugs hound reporters and critics, and his family stole billions of dollars from peasants and merchants and foreign companies.

Maduro's basically the same person, he just started without a prosperous country.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (FDnQi)

And Sean Penn thinks anybody who criticizes Chavez should be jailed. Lovely man that Penn, and so wise. Do I need a sarc tag? I'll go and get one.
And this Prickly Pear Vodka is tasting better.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 11:46 PM (nBr1j)

470 198 What's a weekend?

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM



You're dead, why do you care?

Posted by: cfo mom at May 20, 2018 10:47 PM (RfzVr)


No one tells my job that I'm dead.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 20, 2018 11:46 PM (cardr)

471 Heckler (ampersand) Koch: You Suck and We Hate You.

Sony: The Wave of the Future, With Proprietary Features That Make Us Useless

Lenovo: All Your Base Are Belong to Us

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 11:47 PM (2K6fY)

472 From what I've read, you had to be a moonbat SJW to be invited to that.

Posted by: publius, of Vae at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (8O3HH)

Out in the Territories where I reside, no SJWs are tolerated.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 11:47 PM (iTpm7)

473 Does the prickly pear vodka have the prickly pointy parts in it? That would give it extra zing for sure.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:47 PM (UI5zK)

474 When Maduro rigs an election, he wins. Hillary Clinton? Not so much.

Posted by: CyberCipher at May 20, 2018 11:47 PM (p6WoB)

475 About twenty years ago I realized that no one I had ever talked to had actually read Malthus. I bought his essay, actually a small book of 160 pages or so as I recall, and learned just what Kindltot says above, which is directly opposite to what most people, in their ignorance, think Malthus was about. He was a leading economist of his age, BTW, and that was before economics mostly went guano crazy.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:23 PM (UI5zK)


Same with Keynes. He got things wrong, but he's not the boogieman that many on the right make him out to be.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (Tnhbr)

476 I rather enjoy Clogginstien's visits...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (e9G8E)

477 >> There are limes in the crisper. It's a drawer at the bottom of the fridge.

------------------------

Go for it. I'm behind you all the way.

Posted by: publius, of Vae at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (8O3HH)

478 The thing about Venezuela is it *should* be prosperous, and it's a beautiful country.

So is Mexico. So is lots of Central and South America. And resource rich. And having had the greatest economic engine in world history right next to them (for Central America, at least).

But, noooo ... They like being tyrannical shitholes. No matter what progress is made they always return to the tyrannical shitholes they feel at home in. It's part of the legacy of the ex-Spanish and Portuguese colonies.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (uSurQ)

479 "No one tells my job that I'm dead."
-Posted by: Buzzion at May 20, 2018 11:46 PM (cardr)

I'll call them tomorrow. Here's my card...

*Slapweasel Industries - Representing The Dead since 1995*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (Ckg4U)

480 Delta Airlines: Take a chance on us!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (+y/Ru)

481 No one tells my job that I'm dead.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 20, 2018 11:46 PM (cardr)


Hey, the man shows up and does his work, I don't care if he's dead. I ain't no bigot.

Posted by: Buzzion's Boss at May 20, 2018 11:49 PM (FDnQi)

482 The US is not yet quite corrupt enough to rig an election for dang sure. Just wait though. If not Hillary, then someone just as bad or worse is waiting in the wings to keep trying.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:49 PM (UI5zK)

483 Actually, not sure the Nazis "rigged" any elections. They just didn't have any real ones, after they'd topped out at around 33% of the vote, and through a series of events had the chancellorship and the key ministries. The "seizure of power" was from an elected, "legitimate" role in a multi-party government.


Various referenda on Hitler and other questions in the first months after the seizure of power took place in an atmosphere of intimidation, with the commies and social democrats banned, etc. So those weren't legit elections, but the earlier ones had been.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 11:50 PM (QDnY+)

484 BMW: "Because I'm better than you"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)

Yeah, we know, and we hate you for it.

Posted by: Audi at May 20, 2018 11:50 PM (Dp6qK)

485 Anon,

Delta: "Die in a crash and your next flight with us is free!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:50 PM (eMKNe)

486 buzzion - No one tells my job that I'm dead.

Why's everyone making a fuss?

Posted by: Dan Rostenkowski at May 20, 2018 11:50 PM (6FqZa)

487 Dick's Sporting Goods: Shove your money where the sun don't shine, murderers!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:50 PM (+y/Ru)

488 So what about Mazdas? I don't think I've ever heard a Mazda joke.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 11:51 PM (sdi6R)

489 Kaynes and Malthus are very misrepresented, like a LOT of historical figures. I mean, Keynes was a debt hawk, pretty much none of his philosophical descendants are.

The worst example is probably Machiavelli, tho. Poor guy.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:51 PM (FDnQi)

490 Mazda: "Hey, guys? We're right here. Hello? Guys? Guys??"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:51 PM (eMKNe)

491 Subaru: "The butchest car you can get"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:52 PM (eMKNe)

492 slow, clumsy UNARMED human prey.

"That was incredible. No fur, claws, horns, antlers, or nothin'. Just soft and pink."
Posted by: mikeski
----------

Snapped a pic of this at an auto repair shop:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9jknvgd

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 11:52 PM (w1zJX)

493 Go for it. I'm behind you all the way.

Posted by: publius, of Vae at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (8O3HH)

As dependable as an atomic clock, you are.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 20, 2018 11:52 PM (iTpm7)

494 So what about Mazdas? I don't think I've ever heard a Mazda joke.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 11:51 PM (sdi6R)


The RX-7 was a really nice car.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:52 PM (uSurQ)

495 Subaru: "Males need not apply"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:52 PM (eMKNe)

496 *Sees Mazda* *Points* Ha ha!

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:52 PM (UI5zK)

497 The timing of the fan and shit get-together is pretty perfect. Right on time. And under budget.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (IeDO8)

498 >> Out in the Territories where I reside, no SJWs are
>> tolerated.

You Territories sound like a most inviting and hospitable abode, Your Grace. I shall have to explore them soon. Maybe I'll find just the spot.

Posted by: publius, of Vae at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (8O3HH)

499 Same with Keynes. He got things wrong, but he's not the boogieman that many on the right make him out to be.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (Tnhbr)

Keynes was very strong on having a balanced budget in normal times, and a governmental surplus in flush times.

Posted by: Miklos, neo-non-Keynesian at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (zCyNd)

500 Ruthless, but seriously, the Miata was nice.

Guys were drooling over them in the late 1980s.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (eMKNe)

501 Same with Keynes. He got things wrong, but he's not the boogieman that many on the right make him out to be.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (Tnhbr)
++++++++++
The General Theory was one of the hardest things I had to get through. Clear writing was not one of Keynes' strong suits. This, I think, is a reason for the absence of consistent or straightforward interpretation of his theories. He was wrong about a lot of things, but he wasn't evil like the communists.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (hYcqw)

502 468 Who will travel to Vermont and rid us of this foul woman?
Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM (UI5zK)

As a Pricipled Conservative(TM) with eternal undying principles of honor and courage I will personally travel to Brattleboro, walk up to Mary, give her a firm look in the eye and shout, "YOU GO GIRL!!!"

Posted by: Max Boot at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (LC8hC)

503 So is Mexico. So is lots of Central and South America. And resource rich. And having had the greatest economic engine in world history right next to them (for Central America, at least).

But, noooo ... They like being tyrannical shitholes. No matter what progress is made they always return to the tyrannical shitholes they feel at home in. It's part of the legacy of the ex-Spanish and Portuguese colonies.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:48 PM (uSurQ)

It's same story pretty much everywhere that the Spanish went dur the colonial period. Shitholes across the board. Feudalism as far as the eye can see. Only the U.S. instituted a true capitalist system. The results should tell you something about both culture and economics.

Posted by: CyberCipher at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (p6WoB)

504 CNN: We've trapped you in the airport!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (+y/Ru)

505 There's a woman in Alaska who posts on Youtube..

She has cats and the eagles come perch on her deck rail.. funny..

so..you can't always tell from a meme picture what's going on..

https://youtu.be/M9EBofaI5Xs

https://youtu.be/AYunv_fzFL4

eagles ain't stupid...

she has lots of videos of you follow her nick..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (5tSKk)

506 Dick's: "Yes. Yes, We Are."

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (5OO3x)

507 btw, that was another scummy thing Bill did on his way out, pardoning Dan 'Ghost Employer' Rostenkowski because he 'did a lot for his country'.

I can't even imagine what this place would be like under a Hillary Presidency. The Clintons gave crooks a bad name.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (6FqZa)

508 Kanye is a controversial economic theorist, but he can't be ignored.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 11:55 PM (kWrQ3)

509 t-bird, LOL.

Dick's: "We ARE our name"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:55 PM (eMKNe)

510 Kaynes and Malthus are very misrepresented, like a LOT of historical figures. I mean, Keynes was a debt hawk, pretty much none of his philosophical descendants are.

The worst example is probably Machiavelli, tho. Poor guy.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:51 PM (FDnQi)


Steve Keen has some decent arguments that Keynes was bastardized by classical economists focusing too much on equilibrium models.

I cringe whenever someone tries to quote Keynes line, "in the long-run we're all dead." They inevitably take it out of context.

And yes, Machiavelli is another who is completely misunderstood.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 11:55 PM (Tnhbr)

511 So what about Mazdas? I don't think I've ever heard a Mazda joke.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 11:51 PM (sdi6R)


The engineering behind the vacuum control system on the 93+ RX-7 is the kind of out-of-the-box thinking that only comes to you when you're curled up on the bathroom floor after three times the normal human limit of gin drinks and raw fish.

Mazda's motto, after the Cosmo, RX-7, 323gtx, Millenium, RX-8, and Mazdaspeed 6 is: "It was actually a success, but we didn't have the confidence to push it hard enough to sell large numbers."

It's not pithy like the others, but it's kind of quietly sad. Like a 1990s 626.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:55 PM (FDnQi)

512 The production price of Venezuelan crude is around $22/barrel, less than half the lowest price for crude in recent years and now around 30% of world prices. Yet socialist have managed to create an oil desert in that oil soaked nation.

Good job socialists. Yet another roaring success story to add to the long list of accomplishments.

Posted by: Ripley at May 20, 2018 11:56 PM (NbRJx)

513 wouldn't normally expect the eagle to let that scenario occur. maybe he is injured.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 10:11 PM (MTjB1)

Or stuffed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 11:56 PM (dOgJt)

514 Strange they left that detail out.
Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 11:41 PM (+lOpA)

Seattle Times went to great lengths to obscure it. S.J. Brooks.

women/trans/femme/non-binary people of color

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ article-5751831/PICTURED-32-year- old-biker-killed-starving-cougar.html

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 11:56 PM (Dp6qK)

515 Ha, ha! Monday's a national holiday here, losahs!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 11:56 PM (Evws/)

516 Kanye is a controversial economic theorist, but he can't be ignored.
Posted by: Cm9000 at May 20, 2018 11:55 PM (kWrQ3)


Taylor, Taylor, Imma let you speak, but everyone knows Hayek was the best economist ever!

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 11:57 PM (Tnhbr)

517 499
Keynes was very strong on having a balanced budget in normal times, and a governmental surplus in flush times.
Posted by: Miklos, neo-non-Keynesian at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (zCyNd)


Right. He believed in deficit spending only during economic downturns, and then running a surplus during boom times.

Politicians found it much easier to deficit spend all the time.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 11:57 PM (sdi6R)

518 I never owned a Mazda. Only had a few Jap cars, two Nissans that were actually my wife's and one Subaru which I didn't like and got rid of after about eight months. Five Mercedes and they were all good, three diesels and two gas models. Also five Jeeps of various models including my current Liberty. Plus a mix of various Ford and GM cars, a couple of pickups and one BMW.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 11:57 PM (UI5zK)

519 Keynes was very strong on having a balanced budget in normal times, and a governmental surplus in flush times.

Posted by: Miklos, neo-non-Keynesian at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (zCyNd)


Yes, which most "Keynesians" these days ignore. But the fact is that government is not supposed to be generating profits (surpluses).

The only way to actually control government spending and deficits is for the money to be on a gold standard, so it can't just be printed up any time the government wants to. Outside of that, there's not really any way to control government spending - not until the bond market just brings the whole shebang down, of course.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 11:57 PM (uSurQ)

520 "That was incredible. No fur, claws, horns, antlers, or nothin'. Just soft and pink." Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM

I remember that... Far Side, I think...



Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 20, 2018 11:57 PM (e9G8E)

521 I just donated an RX-7 that I've had for decades and just can't, because of health, work on anymore. I'm a little bitter. That car was like family.

At least it was donated to a college racing team and not to the crusher. They hope to have pictures of her racing by next year for me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 11:58 PM (FDnQi)

522 Mary is so right!!


I trust that Mr. Walter Brennan, he's the real McCoy!

And Mary, the Brattlesboro Craft Guild and Collective Guilt Collective would like to display your autographed IOU from that nice Ms. Bernice Sanders (?) (from the College) in their display next month.

Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro at May 20, 2018 11:58 PM (zCyNd)

523 LadyTheo, fresh out. How about a nice Aston Martin? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:29 PM (eMKNe)


There is a poster out for Used Aston-Martins.

It has a very lovely lady in a very short negligee and white stilettos showing a gorgeous derriere with the slogan: "You know you are not the first, but do you really care?"

For slogans, that one is arresting.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 11:59 PM (2K6fY)

524 oh man, Rosty's wiki page. talk about the DC swamp. everyone in DC came together to say that Rosty was railroaded y'all. he played by the old rules! all that corruption was just how things used to be done!

Please, God Emperor Donald Trump; fumigate that place.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 11:59 PM (6FqZa)

525 Not even Jimmy Carter would claim that this was a fair election. All real opposition parties have been suppressed.

It's very sad.

Y'no, back in the Cold War days, the USA would have fought this commie takeover both covertly and diplomatically. But Obama for all practical purposes supported it.
POS.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (0jtPF)

526 The General Theory was one of the hardest things I had to get through. Clear writing was not one of Keynes' strong suits. This, I think, is a reason for the absence of consistent or straightforward interpretation of his theories. He was wrong about a lot of things, but he wasn't evil like the communists.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (hYcqw)


Keynes was trying to explain the Great Depression precisely to prevent Communism or Fascism from winning over converts. When you have massive unemployment for years at a time, it's not a good thing for society. Meanwhile, the bearded academic on the corner is passing out his manifesto about how the workers of the world can seize the means of production from the corporate fatcats, while on the other side of the street the brownshirts are telling the workers that their plight is the fault of the Jews...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (Tnhbr)

527 How can there be emaciated cougars when CAGW must mean that there are plenty of food sources now that there's no more snow?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (Evws/)

528 Had I pulled-up in the driveway with a "Rice-Burner", my Father would have killed me.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (Ckg4U)

529 Today's Keynesians are like the people that pick out the good chocolates from the box and leave the rest. They are glad to overspend their way out of a recession, but also happy to overspend their way back into another.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (UI5zK)

530 Some guy did a ownership cost video comparing his Aston Martin DB-7 to his Acura sedan.

If you deduct the depreciation, there's actually not much difference, at least for the five years or whatever it was.

Personally, if I had an Aston, *and it was reliable*, I'd want to keep it long term.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:01 AM (FDnQi)

531 Snapped a pic of this at an auto repair shop:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9jknvgd
Posted by: Mike Hammer

[Picture of two bears discussing those rear-window family-member decals]

Didn't some Moron once call those decals a "kidnapper's menu"?

Posted by: mikeski at May 21, 2018 12:02 AM (JGBbg)

532 Kindltot, hmmm :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2018 12:02 AM (eMKNe)

533 "Ha, ha! Monday's a national holiday here, losahs!"
-Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 11:56 PM (Evws/)

I work on American National Holidays. No big deal.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:02 AM (Ckg4U)

534 There was a debate in Toronto on Friday night about whether or not PC is a force for good. Jordan Peterson and Stephen Fry argued the "con" side; Michael Eric Dyson and Michelle Goldberg were on the pro-PC side. Dyson basically race-baited Peterson (at one point, he called Peterson "a mean white man" Stephen Fry in turn called Dyson a snake oil peddler). Watch the debate and it becomes clear that Dyson and Goldberg re not very bright and were completely outclassed by Peterson and Fry. The debate illustrates what ace has been saying: Fry is a lefty and Peterson is pretty middle of the road, but the crazy left is now labeling everyone to the right of Mao "alt right."
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yakbpnjn
Spoiler: The audience was polled after the debate and the "con" side not only won, but 6 percent of the audience changed their minds in favor of Peterson and Fry. When you watch the debate, you'll see why. Even lefty Canucks in Toronto are getting sick of PC and race baitng bullshit.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (H80UQ)

535 458 - mikeski

Buick has a mystic outside the US that goes back 70+ yrs.

I remember my late father telling me that in Pre-WW II Germany, Buick was THE car for successful professionals.

I suspect in Asia, the same view held. I watched a Korean SciFi film (with a Godzilla knock-off) where the important govt types drove up in big Buicks (Century's and Roadmasters).

Buicks are a thing outside the US more than most folks realize.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (W+kMI)

536 527 How can there be emaciated cougars when CAGW must mean that there are plenty of food sources now that there's no more snow?
Posted by: andycanuck at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (Evws/)

WA is loading up on predators (wolves), while scaling back hunting of the same. Prey is down, competition is up.

Emaciated predator takes the predictable route. It didn't stop to ask about preferred pronouns.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 12:04 AM (Dp6qK)

537 It wasn't just the question of government spending. Keynes was arguing that it was possible to end up in a state of higher unemployment than classical models allowed, and also about the basic assumptions of individuals in these models, especially regarding their ability to make rational decisions.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 21, 2018 12:06 AM (Tnhbr)

538 "That was incredible. No fur, claws, horns, antlers, or nothin'. Just soft and pink." Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:45 PM

I remember that... Far Side, I think...
Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto


Correct! You win one No-Prize, not-signed by Stan Lee himself.

Posted by: mikeski at May 21, 2018 12:06 AM (JGBbg)

539 Spoiler: The audience was polled after the debate and the "con" side not only won, but 6 percent of the audience changed their minds in favor of Peterson and Fry. When you watch the debate, you'll see why. Even lefty Canucks in Toronto are getting sick of PC and race baitng bullshit.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (H80UQ)


Peterson is actually a creature of the left, just the center-left.

And Goldberg was just as much of a lying bitch as Dyson, her opening statement was primarily a series of distorted ad hominem attacks on Peterson. If I were the moderator I would have stopped her and ask her if she wanted to continue or be escorted from the venue.

I an incensed that a debate "moderator" allowed that kind of behavior. Stay home and wank next time, loser.

Peterson is old school and tried to stay on topic. He might have done better to explain why Goldberg started by lying and demanded an apology. I think a lot of the audience were aware of it anyway, but some of them probably hadn't heard enough of Peterson to know she was lying.

The whole thing was a train wreck.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:07 AM (FDnQi)

540 -Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (H80UQ)

That was in the sidebar and it was a beat-down.

Dyson used "Preacher Word Salad" and Michelle Goldberg was incomprehensible.

Peterson and Fry lit them up like a scoreboard, even after the crowd applauded for Dyson's Jesse Jackson-Style bullshittery.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:07 AM (Ckg4U)

541 So... The starving old cougar's last meal was a person of gender expression?


I'm a bit surprised the press isn't all over this angle...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 21, 2018 12:07 AM (e9G8E)

542 Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 10:51 PM (QDnY+)
---
yeah, i 'member that.

idiots.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 12:07 AM (QDw86)

543
The thing about Venezuela is it *should* be prosperous, and it's a beautiful country.

So is Mexico. So is lots of Central and South America. And resource rich.


How about the entire continent of Africa?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (IqV8l)

544 Keynes was trying to explain the Great Depression precisely to prevent Communism or Fascism from winning over converts. When you have massive unemployment for years at a time, it's not a good thing for society. ...
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 21, 2018 12:00 AM (Tnhbr)
Surely. Keynes may well have been trying to do the right thing and he certainly saw potential for some of the great evil that we actually got in the mid twentieth. I think one of his greater contributions was the notion of sticky wages preventing equilibration and worsening unemployment. I think he might have given that particular problem too much weight, but he identified the problem extraordinarily well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (hYcqw)

545 So... The starving old cougar's last meal was a person of gender expression?


Not liking this...

Posted by: Huma at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (zCyNd)

546 I think GM gave up on Pontiac due to them being the mama-bear average. A bit of luxury, but not Caddy level. A bit of power, but not a camaro. A bit of style, but not a corvette. etc.

Buick couldn't be allowed to die, because the badge, for some reason, has a lot of cachet in China.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 11:43 PM (JGBbg)



First, you're right about Buick's success in China being it's salvation in continued production.

Pontiac's problem though, was chaos in it's designs going back at least a dozen years before their demise.

They did not have a common design concept within their lineup. Not even a little.

At the end, their G-3 looked nothing like the Holden based G-6, the Solstice was unique to itself (although cloneufactured for Saturn), they'd already dropped the Firebird, and it was never resurrected as was the Camaro. The Grand-Am became a dated relic, and they'd long since lost the Bonneville and Catalina full sized sedans and coupes.

The Pontiac Brand steered an essentially rudderless course through the last dozen years of it's life.

Here's the pity, and the joke is on GM. Both Pontiac and Oldsmobile produced some of the finest variants of both the small and large block V-8s, with both having benchmark engines passionately sought after by hot rod builders of every kind.

Pontiac, being the first "next step up" from Chevrolet, also penned some of the finest styling of the GM fleet in the mid to late '60s, and through the '70s. Their motto was "We Build Excitement", and there for a couple of decades...they did.

Then, the EPA stepped, ruined all the fun, and pulled the factory's fangs.

Went steadily downhill, after that.


R.I.P. PMC



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (QzJWU)

547 deadpool 2 was hilarious. saw it this weekend with Mrs Kim.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (0OmEj)

548 BMW: "Because I'm better than you"
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM (eMKNe)

BBW: Roomy.

Posted by: Jaime Gumm at May 21, 2018 12:09 AM (Dp6qK)

549 Cats do great against little birds, but against the
larger ones, not so much. Unless they can sneak up on them, then all
bets are off.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 10:28 PM (pvjTE)

My old cat Claws, now departed, caught and killed a magpie once.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 12:09 AM (dOgJt)

550 512 - Ripley

Venezuelan oil has an additional factor... it's considered 'dirty' crude. Lots of contaminants that take extra refining to remove, so yeah, they have LOTS of oil, but it's bottom-shelf stuff. You buy it when nothing better is available.

Or you're not picky... like China.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 21, 2018 12:10 AM (W+kMI)

551 Not Fade Away by Sammy and the Sarcastics:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J31ZvJmSgh4

That's our Mr. Bassman playing the bass and singing harmony vocals.

Posted by: Emmie at May 21, 2018 12:11 AM (/A+Cl)

552 545 So... The starving old cougar's last meal was a person of gender expression?

Not liking this...
Posted by: Huma at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (zCyNd)

Watch out boi, she'll chew you up.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 12:11 AM (Dp6qK)

553 Surely. Keynes may well have been trying to do the right thing and he certainly saw potential for some of the great evil that we actually got in the mid twentieth. I think one of his greater contributions was the notion of sticky wages preventing equilibration and worsening unemployment. I think he might have given that particular problem too much weight, but he identified the problem extraordinarily well.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:08 AM (hYcqw)


Yup. That and the idea that people are horrible at accurately predicting the future and some of the implications of that.

IIRC, even Friedman had praise for some of Keynes other work, especially regarding probability.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 21, 2018 12:11 AM (Tnhbr)

554 "That was incredible. No fur, claws, horns,
antlers, or nothin'. Just soft and pink." Posted by: mikeski at May 20,
2018 11:45 PM



I remember that... Far Side, I think...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto



Correct! You win one No-Prize, not-signed by Stan Lee himself.

Posted by: mikeski at May 21, 2018 12:06 AM


It was on a Valentine's Day card in the 1980's... Inside, it read "Thinking of you." I remember buying it and to whom I gave it, still!


Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 21, 2018 12:11 AM (e9G8E)

555 Jen Chaney @vulture - 'There Are Not a Lot of Reasons to Watch 13 Reasons Why Season Two'

There weren't too many reasons to watch the first season. It was very Lifetime Movie Of The Week, and my interior narrator was taking on the voice of Mr Mackey.

Bullying is bad mmkay. Raping people is bad mmkay. Suicide - very baaad, mmkaaay.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 12:11 AM (6FqZa)

556 Jaime, yup. Still remember that magazine...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2018 12:11 AM (eMKNe)

557 540 -Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (H80UQ)

That was in the sidebar and it was a beat-down.

Dyson used "Preacher Word Salad" and Michelle Goldberg was incomprehensible.

Peterson and Fry lit them up like a scoreboard, even after the crowd applauded for Dyson's Jesse Jackson-Style bullshittery.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:07 AM (Ckg4U)



Because liberalism is default. It is unthinking response. Because that is what is taught as acceptable. Actually get some people thinking and they will turn away from that.

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2018 12:12 AM (cAnNx)

558 Chipotle's: Like Having Your Own Lava Fissure!

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2018 12:12 AM (nBBdT)

559 t-bird, Chipotle: "Take a gamble on life" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2018 12:12 AM (eMKNe)

560 You Territories sound like a most inviting and
hospitable abode, Your Grace. I shall have to explore them soon. Maybe
I'll find just the spot.

Posted by: publius, of Vae at May 20, 2018 11:53 PM (8O3HH)

There are excellent spots for picnicking.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at May 21, 2018 12:13 AM (iTpm7)

561 ... but the crazy left is now labeling everyone to the right of Mao "alt right."
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (H80UQ)
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This is why I only call them "leftists" now. (Classical) liberals on right and left generally debate on how far into individuals' lives the state should encroach. Communists and their ilk (and the post-modernists and SJWs are decidedly in that category) are millenial cultists seeking to destroy man and recreate him in their own image. This is the "left pole" effect - where anything to the right is fascism, even if it is traditionally lefty. The new left is exceedingly dangerous and we can't apply the "old" methods of debate and evolution of ideas to them. They want to destroy anything outside their sphere of belief and understanding. You can't debate them because, for all intents and purposes, you don't exist in their world view.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:13 AM (hYcqw)

562 Well, you know why Dyson wants Peterson to go with him to a black Baptist church. So Peterson can be surrounded by hostile people who have been told he is a racist while he is harangued and humiliated and can't answer back. I hope Peterson doesn't do it.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:13 AM (H80UQ)

563 I've read that Venezuela's oil can only be refined in the U.S. because of its "dirtiness".

Posted by: andycanuck at May 21, 2018 12:13 AM (Evws/)

564 Fry is interesting because he's far left but culturally British.

Most of the far left discard their own cultures in favor of a hypothetical ideal society.

The *only* ones of any interest don't do that. They're still horribly wrong in many ways, but they tend not to be angry or totalitarian.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (FDnQi)

565 Rostenkowski was a generic corrupt Democrat pol from Illinois who was for some reason was prosecuted. Blagojevich was another one. Maybe they just wanted to make examples of a few so all the rest could go on their way.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (kWrQ3)

566 "Because liberalism is default. It is unthinking response. Because that is what is taught as acceptable. Actually get some people thinking and they will turn away from that."
-Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2018 12:12 AM (cAnNx)

It was simple emotion without self-examination and it was pathetic. I remember being eighteen, as well.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (Ckg4U)

567 534
Spoiler: The audience was polled after the debate and the "con" side not only won, but 6 percent of the audience changed their minds in favor of Peterson and Fry. When you watch the debate, you'll see why. Even lefty Canucks in Toronto are getting sick of PC and race baitng bullshit.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:03 AM (H80UQ)


I watched the first half of that yesterday. I still haven't finished it.

Dyson is a nasty piece of work. He made me want to do violence to my monitor. Unfortunately he seems to be the rule rather than the exception in today's academia.

Posted by: rickl at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (sdi6R)

568 Michelle Goldberg is a 1, though.

Posted by: rickl at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (sdi6R)

569 as for the coog, apparently people are putting out bait for wildlife so they can take selfies with the wildlife in the background. maybe some idiot had taken a coog selfie. so that coog associated humans with food.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 12:15 AM (6FqZa)

570
Peterson and Fry lit them up like a scoreboard, even after the crowd applauded for Dyson's Jesse Jackson-Style bullshittery.



Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:07 AM (Ckg4U)

Idiots in the crowd might have applauded, but the overwhelming majority still voted in favor of Fry/Peterson. And I'm glad Dyson's detestable racism got booed.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:15 AM (H80UQ)

571 When you have massive unemployment for years at a time, it's not a good thing for society. ...

Heh. Care to guess what is NOT our goal?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 21, 2018 12:16 AM (c/EDo)

572 "Somehow, I released it without it tearing me to ittsy-bitsy pieces but a damn fine hunting coat was sacrificed to Artemis."
Man, that took nerve. One flick of a beak or a claw, and you could lose an eye. The closest I've come to that is the one time I freed a mouse from a glue trap.

BTW, isn't the owl sacred to Athena, not Artemis? Not that it matters.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 21, 2018 12:17 AM (S6ArX)

573 I am guessing Blago had the twin sins of being in business for himself and making the most wonderful person in the world look bad.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 21, 2018 12:17 AM (2K6fY)

574 568 Michelle Goldberg is a 1, though.
Posted by: rickl at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (sdi6R)

GTFO.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 12:18 AM (Dp6qK)

575 I've read that Venezuela's oil can only be refined in the U.S. because of its "dirtiness".

Posted by: andycanuck at May 21, 2018 12:13 AM (Evws/)

Close. Venezuelan crude is both "heavy" and "sour".

The only refineries set up to deal with it are in Venezuela, but they can't even keep up with price controlled domestic demand-they have to re-import refined products ( like Iran).

The only refineries that can handle it are on Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles, off the Venezuelan coast; and along the US Gulf Coast.

There was one in the US Virgin Islands, but was closed because nobody wanted to invest in a refinery set up for an unstable supply.

Posted by: Miklos, a highly refined sort at May 21, 2018 12:19 AM (zCyNd)

576 Michelle Goldberg is a 1, though.

Posted by: rickl at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (sdi6R)


You know what? Imma say 0.

And I'm not as picky as most of you people.

But to borrow another vulgar youth meme:

"Wat dat mouth do?" "LIE."

No thanks. She's an intellectual bunny boiler without so much of the intellect (she really stumbled a lot, though I admit I don't know if she has stage fright, which would also explain it).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:20 AM (FDnQi)

577 "Idiots in the crowd might have applauded, but the overwhelming majority still voted in favor of Fry/Peterson. And I'm glad Dyson's detestable racism got booed."
-Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V sez don't you dare walk the damn pitcher at May 21, 2018 12:15 AM (H80UQ)

Virtue-Signalling is always going to be "A Thing", but this romantic notion of "Equal Outcomes" will always lose to a Meritocracy.

People will respond to flowery language and applaud like they mean it, but they will always return to the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:20 AM (Ckg4U)

578 Michelle Goldberg is a 1, though.
Posted by: rickl at May 21, 2018 12:14 AM (sdi6R)
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After a cursor image search, she seems like a great example of how you can go from "homely" to "hideous" with just the power of your mind...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:20 AM (hYcqw)

579 As a good old boy might say, stupid ain't purty.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:21 AM (UI5zK)

580 That disaster and you only have yourself to blame?

Yeah. I've been there. Couple times.

Thing is, it was always something new/different.

I never saw any of it coming.

Most times a surprise. At least for a moment and then on reflection I'd realize that, yeah I should've seen that coming.

Couple times I had no clue what the F*ck just happened or why. Or I knew what happened but could find no reason for it.

Some people forget that there is a bit of luck in everything that happens to you. For good or for ill.

This is why I don't disparage people who are down on their luck unless I know the exact circumstances and who/what exactly was at fault.

If good luck can come in string then so can bad and sometimes that string can be for years. Seen it. Experienced it.

So be kind to others and never presume to know that they deserved what happened to them or what they were like before life kicked them in their ass . . a couple dozen times.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 21, 2018 12:22 AM (3YVDU)

581 Blago was mostly inept at corruption, especially by Illinois standards.

Posted by: Cm9000 at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (kWrQ3)

582 Virtue-Signalling is always going to be "A Thing", but this romantic notion of "Equal Outcomes" will always lose to a Meritocracy.

People will respond to flowery language and applaud like they mean it, but they will always return to the Gods of the Copybook Headings.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:20 AM (Ckg4U)
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Then the meritocracy must be destroyed. Meritocracies don't have outcomes that they like, so off with its head/

Also, "Gods of the Copybook Headings" should be required reading in high schools. Why do I suspect that Common Core doesn't include it?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (hYcqw)

583 Michelle Goldberg is so stupid that dogs won't lick her face.

...stage-fright, my ass.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (Ckg4U)

584 but this romantic notion of "Equal Outcomes" will always lose to a Meritocracy.
Posted by: Slapweasel


Yup. You could plane the USA smooth, economically, today, and by this fall we'd have rich and poor again, if only because some enterprising folks would plant their ration of potatoes rather than eating them.

Posted by: mikeski at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (JGBbg)

585 People will respond to flowery language and applaud like they mean it, but they will always return to the Gods of the Copybook Headings.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:20 AM (Ckg4U)

Ask the students if they are willing to have GPA points "redistributed".

It has been tried, and the outcome reflected...unchanging human nature.

Posted by: Miklos, statistically valid at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (zCyNd)

586 ome people forget that there is a bit of luck in everything that happens to you. For good or for ill.

This is why I don't disparage people who are down on their luck unless I know the exact circumstances and who/what exactly was at fault.

If good luck can come in string then so can bad and sometimes that string can be for years. Seen it. Experienced it.

So be kind to others and never presume to know that they deserved what happened to them or what they were like before life kicked them in their ass . . a couple dozen times.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 21, 2018 12:22 AM (3YVDU)


People can end up in hard times due to bad luck. It's bad choices, bad habits, and bad behavior that keeps them there.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 21, 2018 12:24 AM (Tnhbr)

587 Yup. You could plane the USA smooth, economically, today, and by this fall we'd have rich and poor again, if only because some enterprising folks would plant their ration of potatoes rather than eating them.
Posted by: mikeski at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (JGBbg)
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Price's Law is a bitch and a half.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:24 AM (hYcqw)

588 "We Build Excitement", and there for a couple of decades...they did.
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As I mentioned the other night, 'Tri-Power' was a Pontiac trademark.

Anyone who ever drove an HD421 2+2 is unlikely to forget it. Then there was the GTO...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 21, 2018 12:24 AM (cp1if)

589 543 - Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Africa is at an awkward intersection... women are baby factories because of past factors (like losing children due to disease), except enough modern medicine makes it in-country to make that way of thinking obsolete; and, a firmly entrenched 'my tribe good, your tribe bad' mentality.

Those two factors have ruled the roost since... forever. That alone is the chief reason why there are NO permanent signs of civilization (beyond ruins) on that continent.

Chinese colonization *may* change that, but I doubt it. The people of Africa are cannon fodder until there are some major (and permanent) changes to the mind-set there.

Don't hold your breath waiting for Wakanda... maybe next Millennium, but I'm not making any bets on that.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 21, 2018 12:25 AM (W+kMI)

590 some enterprising folks would plant their ration of potatoes rather than eating them.

... then after the enterprising folks starve to death, the others eat their wasted corpses and open a Mickey D's around the corner. Later they make french fries.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:25 AM (UI5zK)

591
Some people forget that there is a bit of luck in everything that happens to you. For good or for ill.
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All it takes is one bad bounce of the ball.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 21, 2018 12:26 AM (cp1if)

592 503---
It's same story pretty much everywhere that the Spanish went dur the colonial period. Shitholes across the board. Feudalism as far as the eye can see. Only the U.S. instituted a true capitalist system. The results should tell you something about both culture and economics.
Posted by: CyberCipher at May 20, 2018 11:54 PM (p6WoB)
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Actually, it's not "the same story" everywhere.
And not all former Spanish colonies are "shitholes." Nor is Spain itself.

There is no question that the English political legacy has been invaluable to its former colonies and is far superior to that of Spain, France, or the Netherlands.
But the extent to which countries are "shitholes" usually has more to do with the natives (and imported slaves) than anything else.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 21, 2018 12:27 AM (0jtPF)

593 I think Chicago's issue is that if you were a politician there, being a crook was easy-mode. They all did it and nobody gave a shit.

When those crooks get into DC, they just jumped into the trough not knowing how things got done. Those old Southern good-ol'-boys know how to be crooks in DC and to get away with it. Chicago pols just know how to be crooks in Chicago.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 12:27 AM (6FqZa)

594
590 some enterprising folks would plant their ration of potatoes rather than eating them.

... then after the enterprising folks starve to death, the others eat their wasted corpses and open a Mickey D's around the corner. Later they make french fries.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:25 AM (UI5zK)

You know you only need to plant the skins for the Potatoes to grow.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 21, 2018 12:29 AM (LC8hC)

595 then after the enterprising folks starve to death, the others eat their wasted corpses and open a Mickey D's around the corner. Later they make french fries.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:25 AM (UI5zK)

Enterprising people tell stories among their kinsmen, of the great boating accidents that befell their forebears, and what lies under the sacred waters...

Posted by: Miklos, taking potshots at some Golden Boughs at May 21, 2018 12:29 AM (zCyNd)

596 Michelle Goldberg is so stupid that dogs won't lick her face.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (Ckg4U)


I *think* her ad hom attacks were based in deliberate dishonesty, but I can't prove that.

She might just be stupid, or thoughtless, or whatever.

Whether lies by her or lies to her, though, they were still lies.

Peterson never claimed that men and women can't work together, or that women shouldn't wear makeup, or that women should be forced to marry unappealing men, and these are all things she and her cohort are trying to push.

That moderator should be fired.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:30 AM (FDnQi)

597 All it takes is one bad bounce of the ball.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 21, 2018 12:26 AM (cp1if)

Or highball.

Posted by: *hic!* at May 21, 2018 12:31 AM (zCyNd)

598 And not all former Spanish colonies are "shitholes."

Are you going with Chile, the one furthest from the equator? Or Florida?

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2018 12:32 AM (nBBdT)

599 BTW in re: Venezuela. That country has been a violent and murderous country for at least 70 years that I know of.

Lost my cousin to riots in the '50's in Caracas. My first brush with the death of someone I knew he was my age; 8 yo.

They share a psychology with the Filipinos.

Very nice people but very temperamental and will cut you in a trice for very little reason.

In both countries they are very passionate and homicidal over their politics. All this of course is subjective opinion due to my experience. YMMV

Posted by: jakee308 at May 21, 2018 12:32 AM (3YVDU)

600 You know you only need to plant the skins for the Potatoes to grow.
Posted by: Surfperch at May 21, 2018 12:29 AM (LC8hC)

Look at the fat, rich, know it all. Let's redistribute his shit.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 12:32 AM (Dp6qK)

601 Farmer......made your deviled ham dip this week! Yummy!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 20, 2018 11:10 PM

Excellent, glad you liked it. We fine it tasty, my Grandma's recipe.

Be well, hope to see you at GNAMM II, should be fun.

Posted by: Farmer at May 21, 2018 12:33 AM (yJ1e6)

602 But the extent to which countries are "shitholes" usually has more to do with the natives (and imported slaves) than anything else.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 21, 2018 12:27 AM (0jtPF)

if only the Hispanoamericos could follow the Haitian example...

Posted by: Tonton Macoute Miklos at May 21, 2018 12:33 AM (zCyNd)

603 -Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:23 AM (hYcqw)

That's what they're trying to accomplish. They want to change the language and corrupt the youth with The Long March Through the Institutions.

Not in America, however. Our D.N.A. resists Communism and Socialism in its very form.

As they try to change the bloodlines of our Nation, we are there to shunt their attempts and castigate them at every step.

This 'Culture War' will be won by facts over emotion.

-Fact: I will kill to save my Family.

-Emotion: You're a jerk-hole.

-Fact: I have weaponry and training.

-Emotion: You're mean and white.

Besides... we are funnier than they are. Just look at Owen Benjamin. Dude crushes and not just in 'Flyover Country'. He can demolish a crowd in Burlington, Vermont.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:33 AM (Ckg4U)

604 And not all former Spanish colonies are "shitholes." Nor is Spain itself.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 21, 2018 12:27 AM (0jtPF)


Spain's more of a basket case than a shithole.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 21, 2018 12:34 AM (uSurQ)

605 Anyone who ever drove an HD421 2+2 is unlikely to forget it. Then there was the GTO...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 21, 2018 12:24 AM (cp1if)




Poor Man's Stealth GTO.

In the '68 model year, the LeMans could be ordered with almost identical powertrain options to the GTO. Really, most were absolutely identical, save for all but the highest extremes.

I rode in one as a pie-eyed kid, as the owner demonstrated the meaning of "acceleration."

And yeah, it had the hood-mounted tach, too.

Back then, Pontiac was a very formidable brand in the world of muscular cars.

Having poked around the GM stable quite a bit in my yoot, I'll postulate this.

Late '60s Pontiacs were the highest of build quality in the GM lineup.

Not "most luxurious". Or, "most loaded". Quality. As in, absence of manufacturing flaws, failures, superior fit and finish, etc.

That's what makes the demise of the brand, such a damned shame.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX






Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 12:34 AM (QzJWU)

606 ..."That moderator should be fired."
-Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:30 AM (FDnQi)

He didn't know what he didn't know. He should have done his research, but he was negligent.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:36 AM (Ckg4U)

607 I have noticed that the ONT tends to hit 600 comments +/-30 minutes from my bedtime. I can't quite set my watch by it, but it's surprisingly close.

And on that note, I am off to bed so I can work tomorrow. G'night, everyone!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:38 AM (hYcqw)

608 Spain's more of a basket case than a shithole.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 21, 2018 12:34 AM (uSurQ)

Not all. The Catalans are quite OK, and resent the rest of Spain the same way northern Italians resent the rest of Italy.

It's all nice to visit, though, but Barcelona is the pickpocket capital of Europe.

Posted by: Miklos del Mundo at May 21, 2018 12:38 AM (zCyNd)

609 Wasn't there an early mark of Pontiac LeMans where the only access to the Number 8 spark plug was by removing the motor entirely from the car?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 21, 2018 12:38 AM (e9G8E)

610 1960s Pontiacs were good. I had a Catalina and a Bonneville, both nice driving cars. I remember when we first got the Catalina and were driving somewhere and my wife told me I was driving too fast. (I was probably going 70.) So I said. OK, you drive and pulled over. She's going blithely along and I'm looking at the speedometer. After a while I mention, "Honey, you do know you are going a hundred miles an hour don't you." Oooops.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:39 AM (UI5zK)

611

Wow, I finally got one up on Alton Brown. I started 'thermal shocking' burgers 30 years ago, forming them and partially freezing them then grilling, cast iron pan, of my favorite, a cast iron griddle on a grill with lid and soaked wood chips du jur. Same with steaks. Delicious crispy caramelized exterior, perfect medium rare inside every time...

Posted by: InVino Veritits at May 21, 2018 12:39 AM (AyGZp)

612 Hey y'all.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:39 AM (QWGds)

613 FUN FACT

Buicks sold in China still have ash trays.

(actual fun fact)

Posted by: Miklos, formerly of GMAC at May 21, 2018 12:40 AM (zCyNd)

614 Slap call me sometime. If not in the next half hour, maybe tomorrow?

Posted by: Farmer at May 21, 2018 12:41 AM (yJ1e6)

615 Is it wrong for me to look forward to tomorrow like a child on Christmas Eve?

Because I am.

The sphincters in DC must be pretty tight right about now...

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:41 AM (QWGds)

616 Howdy, SMH!
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I might call you tomorrow, Farmer.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:42 AM (Ckg4U)

617 All men are created equal, but differ greatly in the sequel. (one of the founders said that, damned if I remember which. It's just an acceptance of the facts, which are that we are equal in the eyes of the law but not equal in potentials and outcomes. When you try to level the potentials and outcomes you get the dictatorship of mediocrity.)

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 21, 2018 12:43 AM (1FhAQ)

618 607 I have noticed that the ONT tends to hit 600 comments +/-30 minutes from my bedtime. I can't quite set my watch by it, but it's surprisingly close.

And on that note, I am off to bed so I can work tomorrow. G'night, everyone!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2018 12:38 AM (hYcqw)

If an ONT reaches 600 comments before Midnight (in the Eastern Time Zone) in the next three hours or so it will reach 1000 comments.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 21, 2018 12:44 AM (LC8hC)

619 The sphincters in DC must be pretty tight right about now...

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:41 AM


I'm not getting too excited... We've been at this point before only to be disappointed! Remember "tick-tock"?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 21, 2018 12:45 AM (e9G8E)

620 Slap, didja get my new email addy?

If not, lima-juliet-charlie-oscar-papa-echo-lima-alpha-november-delta-eight-tree-eight-tree at the geemale thingamajig.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:45 AM (QWGds)

621 This ONT seems to be losing steam. It takes something like a Beavermania attack to really push the old comment meter to the peg.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:45 AM (UI5zK)

622 Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Botto at May 21, 2018 12:45 AM (e9G8E)

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Neither am I.

But just the mere fact that Trump is making them sweat is making me giddy.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:47 AM (QWGds)

623 621 This ONT seems to be losing steam. It takes something like a Beavermania attack to really push the old comment meter to the peg.
Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:45 AM (UI5zK)

Did someone say 'Beaver'?

Posted by: The Beavermaniacs at May 21, 2018 12:47 AM (LC8hC)

624 @ SMFH.


Good to seeya here, ma'am!

I'm looking forward to a bountiful day on tomorrow's talk radio dial.

I'll be making sawdust at furious rate, so will have the garage mounted 120 wpc JVC cranked up to "Whole Neighborhood" volume, so as to hear the shows above the sound of the screaming motors and whirling blades.

End result will be new stair railings, and a few neighbors more politically educated than at sunrise.

Public spirited, I am.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 12:48 AM (QzJWU)

625 I'm looking forward to a bountiful day on tomorrow's talk radio dial.

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This^

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:48 AM (QWGds)

626 It was just a historical note about the beavers. Not an invitation to start more beavermaniac cray-crayness. Calm down, take a deep breath, think of something besides beavers. Squirrels, perhaps. Or manatees, they are always good.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:49 AM (UI5zK)

627 619 The sphincters in DC must be pretty tight right about now...

?

18 hour days, no lallygagging around getting a suntan...

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at May 21, 2018 12:49 AM (AyGZp)

628
621

BEAVER FEVER! CATCH IT!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 21, 2018 12:49 AM (e1mEI)

629 He didn't know what he didn't know. He should have done his research, but he was negligent.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:36 AM (Ckg4U)


It doesn't take research to identify ad hominem attacks, which don't require dishonesty to be forbidden from debates.

If a moderator in my Jr High School debate club had been that bad, they would have been kicked out of the club.

The "pro" side even disavowed their side's position within minutes and then devoted the rest of the discussion to separate contentions regarding feminism and structural racism, as well as their ignorant hostility to one of the other debaters.

I think I have only ever seen one debate handled worse than this, and that one made national news because it was SO BAD no one even attempted to discuss the contention at hand.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 12:50 AM (FDnQi)

630 Seriously you guys, 86 the beaver shit.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:50 AM (UI5zK)

631 LOL Jim!

I do that with my daughter.

And tomorrow I'll be watching the g-babies outside (weather permitting), and they're gonna be wondering why Gammy is laughing like a loon.

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 12:51 AM (QWGds)

632 NSFW version of Aston Martin ad. No idea what they are talking about.
https://tinyurl.com/y7sy6clo

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 21, 2018 12:51 AM (xFZUI)

633 Someone say beaver?

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2018 12:53 AM (cAnNx)

634 81 -- cbd: That's a shame.I've read several of his books and learned a lot from them. Edward Said hated Lewis with a purple passion, so you know Lewis was on to Said's bs. One less voice in the in an academic field that is owned more and more by Saudi paid Islamic apologists. I suspect there isn't a single Middle East studies department left in the US that contains a single individual capable of telling the truth.

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at May 21, 2018 12:53 AM (twkXM)

635 Well, this ONT is on life support and the prognosis ain't good. Think I'll wander off to a better place, namely my comfy bed. Night all.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 21, 2018 12:54 AM (UI5zK)

636
630
I didn't bring it up. My comments involved WSU Cougars and emaciated cougars. And imported wolves.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 21, 2018 12:54 AM (e1mEI)

637 Seattle Times went to great lengths to obscure it. S.J. Brooks.



women/trans/femme/non-binary people of color



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ article-5751831/PICTURED-32-year- old-biker-killed-starving-cougar.html

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 11:5

So, not a woman. A tranny.. Cougar just doing what a cougar's got to do, clransing the gene pool.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 12:56 AM (dOgJt)

638 598
Are you going with Chile, the one furthest from the equator? Or Florida?
Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2018 12:32 AM (nBBdT)
--------------------------
Chile, Uruguay, Argentina --- yeah, now that you mention it they are farthest from the equator!
But Costa Rica and Panama aren't shitholes either.

Now, Argentina, is a basketcase, as PrimordialOP puts it.
Pretty much like Spain and Italy, where nearly all of the people come from.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 21, 2018 12:57 AM (0jtPF)

639 Someone say beaver?
Don't start that shit again.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at May 21, 2018 12:57 AM (IcT7t)

640 No. A mentally ill woman. I'll not be co-opted in their denial of science and lies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 12:58 AM (Dp6qK)

641 I'll buy every bit of that, Merovign. You're right.

That should be basic, Common Sense. I'll admit to having to work at that goal... lol.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 12:58 AM (Ckg4U)

642 615 Is it wrong for me to look forward to tomorrow like a child on Christmas Eve?

Because I am.

The sphincters in DC must be pretty tight right about now...
Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left



Meh. We've been here before. I'll wait and see.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 21, 2018 01:02 AM (pY+s4)

643 Sorry I get worked up about it, Slap, but I think this is really the key issue of our time.

There's room for a center left coalition that can negotiate meaningfully with the right to maintain our successful Western traditions, and apart from all the conspiracy theories I think *that* is why the far left fears Peterson - if they even reason past the instinctive hatred of the dreaded "Anyone Who Disagrees With Me" creature.

So they have to attack attack attack and keep everyone distracted from what needs to be done, which is ignore the fanatics and keep carrying on.

And mine the effing asteroid belt.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 21, 2018 01:03 AM (FDnQi)

644 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ article-5751831/PICTURED-32-year- old-biker-killed-starving-cougar.html

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018


In the article (which is pretty poorly written):

Sederbaum said his whole head was in the predator's mouth before Brooks ran

The cougar then dropped him and chased his friend, who was mauled and killed


I guess the old joke about "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you." doesn't apply to cougars. If he had been up to date on his jokes the cougar probably would have eaten his boyfriend, instead.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 21, 2018 01:03 AM (uSurQ)

645 And here is the lowly, unregarded otter. Playful, energetic, cute as buttons, they make terrible house pets.

Posted by: Miklos, host of TOC, 1661 on cable at May 21, 2018 01:03 AM (zCyNd)

646 Tick tock

Hannity's sphincter must have been tight for years, because he is always full of poo and never delivers. Someone send him some ex-lax.

DJT on the other hand has been pretty good at delivering.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 01:04 AM (6FqZa)

647 You're not "worked-up", Merovign. You're correct and vigilant.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 01:06 AM (Ckg4U)

648 I'm going to bed soon, but a reminder that Orbital ATK is launching their Antares rocket with a Cygnus cargo ship to the ISS at 4:39 am EDT. NASA TV coverage begins at 4:00.

Weather permitting, the launch should be visible from a wide area in the Central Atlantic region. See this link and scroll down for a visibility map:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9zkvwqr

Posted by: rickl at May 21, 2018 01:08 AM (sdi6R)

649 The picture of those two on that dailymail link ... sheesh!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 21, 2018 01:08 AM (uSurQ)

650 Good evening everyone,
I watched the debate. I thought Peterson and Frye presented well thought out arguments that I agree with. I thought the other two attacked the debators, ignored the topic and spoke incomprehensible jargon. If I thought PC was a net positive for society I would not want those two arguing for it because their style of debate is lacking.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:11 AM (IDhUW)

651 A nice "sleep tight" thought may be that Stefan Halper, rather key in the funny business, was paid by the Office of Net Assessment, which is a slush fund of the... Dept of Defense.

Which means that audit and investigation of Halper's work goes to...

Well, you never want an auditor known as "Mad Dog".

Posted by: Miklos, night auditor at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (zCyNd)

652 Forget it, TPOP, it's SeaTown. They were both criminally ignorant and unprepared.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (Dp6qK)

653 The picture of those two on that dailymail link ... sheesh!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 21, 2018 01:08 AM (uSurQ)

Sort of makes one wish that cougars hunted in packs...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (dOgJt)

654 Whut?

No mention anywhere of the USS Tig Ol Bitties??

Pffffft.

Posted by: Lurks at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (j3frD)

655 Providing that the present legal-action counterattack against the Deep State fails, then what would be the best course of action, thereafter?

I'll keep my own counsel on that, for now.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 01:15 AM (QzJWU)

656 Wasn't it "Q" what started the 'tick-tock' thing?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Bīb&257 at May 21, 2018 01:16 AM (e9G8E)

657 I want to maintain our successful western traditions. Public schooling and higher education wittingly and unwittingly undermine western tradition. The attacks against western tradition are made possible by the benevolence of western tradition.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:16 AM (IDhUW)

658 Hmmm...

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Bībā at May 21, 2018 01:18 AM (e9G8E)

659 No mention anywhere of the USS Tig Ol Bitties??

Pffffft.

Posted by: Lurks at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (j3frD)

That is just the nickname for the USS Barney Frank.

Posted by: Miklos, Stormy sez Hi sailors! at May 21, 2018 01:19 AM (zCyNd)

660 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (dOgJt)

LOL.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 21, 2018 01:21 AM (uSurQ)

661 took awhile but #659 won the thread.

and now, I think I will be sick.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 01:21 AM (6FqZa)

662 Jesus loves you! :^)

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 01:22 AM (6FqZa)

663 looks like I missed the magick number.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 01:22 AM (6FqZa)

664 Link surfing is addictive. Fun, but easy to get carried away.

I have to confess to a certain amount of anticipation in respect to what I believe is going to happen tomorrow. About time.
But for now it's bedtime for us old folk.
For the new day, perhaps a baby step towards restoring this beloved country to that shining city on a hill. We'll get there, the country has endured and triumphed over situations every bit as perilous.
Because of who we are. Never doubt we'll prevail.
We come from a political system and people without parallel on the planet.
We are Americans, thus the head is held HIGH and PROUD.
Goodnite, good people. Stay safe and warm.


Posted by: irongrampa at May 21, 2018 01:22 AM (S/hVx)

665 655 Providing that the present legal-action counterattack against the Deep State fails, then what would be the best course of action, thereafter?

It must not fail. It is backed by the Constitution and supported by Americans who know the importance of that. God bless President Trump and those working with him. I hope Trump knows we have his back and he must keep fighting.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:22 AM (IDhUW)

666 Now?

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Bībā at May 21, 2018 01:23 AM (e9G8E)

667 I'll keep my own counsel on that, for now.

---
"no idea here..." he said...

as he continued to clean weapons and sharpen bayonets.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 01:23 AM (QDw86)

668 I've not had the Poast of Teh Beast in long time...

Shoulda gone with the debil smilee!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Bībā at May 21, 2018 01:24 AM (e9G8E)

669 Well, between bouts of trying to recover my dead computer, I managed to get more work done on the old Beaver table saw. It's a 9" saw. A ten-inch blade won't fit. Got the arbor assembly, main table and case back together, and built a crank handle to work the arbor tilt. That was the most time-consuming. Found an off-cut of 1" steel round stack. Faced off both ends in the lather to make it the required inch and a quarter long. Drilled the through hole. Cut the slot which engages the pin on the shaft. Turned a shoulder on the other end to accept the crank arm. Made a crank arm from a piece of flat steel stock, pressed it on the shoulder, and welded it there. It's not pretty, but it works fine. Both the original hand wheel for the blade depth, and my fabricated crank for the arbor tilt have a clamp knob on the extension of the shaft: release the clamp knob, turn the crank to the desired setting, and tighten the clamp knob to lock it there.

Now looking for a motor for it. Would like 1/2 HP, 240 volt.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:25 AM (dOgJt)

670 Speaking of Q... the latest drop.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/998414434795057152.html

As a bonus, I learned that the woman who could / would verify Obozo's birth certificate was the only fatality in a plane crash (...that sorta slipped thru the cracks of the 24 / 7 new cycle).

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 21, 2018 01:26 AM (W+kMI)

671 657---The attacks against western tradition are made possible by the benevolence of western tradition.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:16 AM (IDhUW)
------------------------
Yep.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 21, 2018 01:26 AM (0jtPF)

672
It must not fail. It is backed by the Constitution and supported by Americans who know the importance of that. God bless President Trump and those working with him. I hope Trump knows we have his back and he must keep fighting.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:22 AM (IDhUW)



I agree, completely. I subscribe to the Irongranpa ethos, Our Heads Held High.

Yet still, the Deep State is pervasive, but not ALL pervasive. It can win, before it loses.

If we are a part of The Remnant, we need to plan actions, accordingly.

With ZERO coordination, communication or cooperation.

Each, a Cell of One.

With an Action Ethos to give strength to the concept, we can yet prevail.

Beyond that, compartmentalization requires "whisper in the ear" degrees of security.

Which makes MoMeets, all the more relevant, yes?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 01:29 AM (QzJWU)

673 A Very Late Willowing:
454
"wartime consigliere"
God almighty. If people could please just shut-up with "Godfather" references already.
God
Almighty what an almost stupid movie. God almighty, to just hear
references to it as being something *profound*. "Wartime consigliere!"
Oh. My. God! That is almost not profound! What the FUCK. Do. You. Mean.
By. That?
No, seriously. What. The. FUCK. Do. You. Mean. By. That?

In
the world of US politics out of the White House, the way Donald Trump
rolls, what the fuck does "wartime consigliere" mean? Or is it just a
bunch of internet guys trying to sound tough, yet wise?
Well - I know this the ultimate willow of being willowed, but what. do. you. mean?


Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC
Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 21, 2018 01:26 AM
(0QYMt)

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 21, 2018 01:29 AM (0QYMt)

674 The flame is lit to appease the Zettai.

Now, to be sure-six each of bourbon, scotch and beer, while listening to the Original Three Man Quartet..

Posted by: Miklos, taking no chances at May 21, 2018 01:29 AM (zCyNd)

675 Which leads to, "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness."

If need be, we will fight, and fight to win, for our superior culture.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:30 AM (IDhUW)

676 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 12:56 AM (dOgJt)

Not a biker, a bicyclist. Leave it to the Brits to not understand the difference.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 21, 2018 01:30 AM (IuYIh)

677 As an aside the lava flows are expanding in Hawaii.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 21, 2018 01:32 AM (0OmEj)

678 Not a biker, a bicyclist. Leave it to the Brits to not understand the difference.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 21, 2018 01:30 AM (IuYIh)

But they did understand the difference between a woman and a tranny. Got to give them that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:33 AM (dOgJt)

679 No mention anywhere of the USS Tig Ol Bitties??

Pffffft.

Posted by: Lurks at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (j3frD)

I saw that on Duffel Blog the other day. It seems the USS DD-214 ran a distant second.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 21, 2018 01:33 AM (IuYIh)

680 as he continued to clean weapons and sharpen bayonets.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 01:23 AM (QDw86)

Damn.

"Bring t' auld Laird t' pipes boys, for the time, aye, comes the time.

"Lassie, bring ye down t' auld Claymore from o'er the mantle...not those claymores, ye foolish lass!"

Posted by: Laird Miklos McMolnar at May 21, 2018 01:34 AM (zCyNd)

681 As an aside the lava flows are expanding in Hawaii.



Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 21, 2018 01:32 AM (0OmEj)

Hawaii needs a metric fuckton of asbestos Maxi-pads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:34 AM (dOgJt)

682 Here we go again ...

... flight to Japan - I could drink the beer and eat a bag of chips. Thats it.

Gonna' be a long week unless I find a Burger King again.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 01:36 AM (+t7zK)

683 But they did understand the difference between a woman and a tranny. Got to give them that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:33 AM (dOgJt)


Okay, you're right. That's one the American media seems to have forgotten.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 21, 2018 01:37 AM (IuYIh)

684 The
MoMees are important, as are small groups of like minded individuals, with extreme caution, like Jim mentioned.

Quite some time ago there was a commenter "T" who had a list of " when in the course of human event" that pertained to recent events, I never copied it down but always those it would be a good preamble to a new start, if/ when needed.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:37 AM (IDhUW)

685 651 A nice "sleep tight" thought may be that Stefan Halper, rather key in the funny business, was paid by the Office of Net Assessment, which is a slush fund of the... Dept of Defense.

Which means that audit and investigation of Halper's work goes to...

Well, you never want an auditor known as "Mad Dog".
Posted by: Miklos, night auditor at May 21, 2018 01:14 AM (zCyNd)

My sleep tight thought is that the conveniently for deep state disappeared Misfud is actually been wrapped up for safe keeping by the good guys and holds the keys to crack the seditious conspiracy wide open and is willing to do so. That or he was Arkancided and the upstream people have been rounded up and are fingerings the conspirators.

There have been a lot of unexplained resignations and retirements, and a provable conspiracy to commit murder to cover up the political spying is just the type of story that would go a long way to explain such.

Remember, Mifsud is the earliest known/public link in the Russia has hillary's emails info feeding into the Trump campaign, dating to March/April 2016.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 01:38 AM (Dp6qK)

686 redC gets it.

May your sharpened bayonet know it's GPS coordinates, and not deviate therefrom.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 01:38 AM (QzJWU)

687 Not a biker, a bicyclist. Leave it to the Brits to not understand the difference.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 21, 2018 01:30 AM (IuYIh)

I identify ans a unicycle, but the bi- thing could be interesting, 'cause, I roll both ways.

Posted by: Mime on a unicycle at May 21, 2018 01:39 AM (zCyNd)

688 Night all.

Here is "Blood Like Cream" by Red Fang:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elfuaxHQWlQ

Posted by: The Political Hat at May 21, 2018 01:40 AM (itfg0)

689 Well, I am off to the snoozer. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 21, 2018 01:40 AM (dOgJt)

690 By superior culture, I should clarify in our PC age, that I mean the culture of Western Civilization.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:41 AM (IDhUW)

691 Past last call.

I hereby, retire for the evening.

Hasta la nite nite, Horde!




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 21, 2018 01:42 AM (QzJWU)

692 G'Night, Jim.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 01:43 AM (Ckg4U)

693 Keep your powder dry, and sleep with one eye open, patriots.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2018 01:44 AM (Dp6qK)

694 Good night all

Deus vincit omnia

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 21, 2018 01:44 AM (IDhUW)

695 Gonna' be a long week unless I find a Burger King again.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 01:36 AM

Dude! Japan is a food paradise!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Bībā at May 21, 2018 01:45 AM (e9G8E)

696 the whole "Q" anon thing is tired... as was CBTS, and all the others with their "wheels within wheels within wheels..." ad infinitum. so is the Jeff Sessions is all over this..." tripe.

might be true, but it doesn't ring true, and it fails Occam's Razor.

they are all complicated explanations, and the simple one is that Sessionzzz is going jack and shit and that *nothing* will come of all this.

too many rich, powerful and totally unaccountable people, as well as countries and organizations want to destroy/emasculate the US, and only some of our population opposes them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 01:48 AM (gjrhn)

697 Dyson brought up slavery more often than he brought up the actual topic of the debate. He wouldn't know how to do it any other way. Up against a Canadian and a British man, a bold move, lets see how it plays out.

Dyson's grandfather might have known the Jim Crow laws. His grandfather might have seen the US where the klan openly owned fucking congressman. And that guy's grandfather might have been a slave.

This "300 years of slavery" bullshit says that he can not distinguish between himself and those men, in terms of effective legal status. That would require a shocking idiocy. Too much to believe. No, he is just a toxic snake oil salesman.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 21, 2018 01:49 AM (rnAwa)

698 Thanks for the fun chat everybody, goodnight and hope you all had a great weekend. Four-dayer next time, Memorial Day!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2018 01:52 AM (eMKNe)

699 Oops... that is, four-dayer for me, because I don't work Fridays. Three-dayers for others. Hopefully.

*sneaks out awkwardly*

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2018 01:52 AM (eMKNe)

700 test

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 01:56 AM (gjrhn)

701 670 Speaking of Q... the latest drop.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/998414434795057152.html

As a bonus, I learned that the woman who could / would verify Obozo's birth certificate was the only fatality in a plane crash (...that sorta slipped thru the cracks of the 24 / 7 new cycle).
Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 21, 2018 01:26 AM (W+kMI)

That's why it's best to own instead of renting a tin foil hat. Also, it was Trump in 2011 that goaded Barry Soetoro to releasing his birth certificate, which he posted on the White House website, which was used to find the 9 points of forgery by the Cold Case Posse.

Trump has been on this since at least 2011.

Posted by: Monk at May 21, 2018 01:57 AM (Wd0WT)

702

Normal
0


Dude! Japan is a food paradise!

---

if, by *food*, you mean *weird shit no sane person would
eat*...



then yeah, paradise.



otherwise it's pretty much just a *food shithole*.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 01:59 AM (gjrhn)

703 Fing Pixy....

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 02:01 AM (gjrhn)

704 G'Night, Ev'ry-Buddy!

*static*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 21, 2018 02:03 AM (Ckg4U)

705 there is no future,
no reason for hope.
so let's give up
and smoke more dope.

coined by me several decades ago...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 02:06 AM (gjrhn)

706 otherwise it's pretty much just a *food shithole*.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 01:59 AM (gjrhn)


I found the cold egg noodles with a hint of fish - served with a side of salt/vinegar/soy/fish sauce for dipping particularly shitty.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 02:08 AM (c0Pwt)

707 I found the cold egg noodles with a hint of fish - served with a side of salt/vinegar/soy/fish sauce for dipping particularly shitty.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 02:08 AM (c0Pwt)

First rule of food in Japan:

If it doesn't come on a little conveyor belt, don't eat it.

Posted by: Miklos-san at May 21, 2018 02:10 AM (zCyNd)

708 There was a bit of something in there that looked like shredded chicken.

It was not.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 02:11 AM (c0Pwt)

709 Good night AKestal, Jim and Aop and the rest of yaall. I have to figure out what to take off this week for J's surgery.

I've got a lot of sick time and she's not going be doing much.

Posted by: Farmer at May 21, 2018 02:12 AM (yJ1e6)

710 701 - Monk

Yup. Didn't really buy into the 'birth certificate' thing, but when the posted doc revealed 'layers', that was another matter.

A straight up scan of a doc does NOT have layers...

...but a photo-shopped doc does.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at May 21, 2018 02:14 AM (W+kMI)

711 It was not.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 02:11 AM (c0Pwt)

You were in Korea, dude.

Posted by: da-gogi means what you think at May 21, 2018 02:14 AM (zCyNd)

712 There's got to be a morning thread after
If we can hold on through the night
We have a chance to find the sunshine
Let's keep on looking for the light

Posted by: Miklos, in his bset Maureen McGovern voice at May 21, 2018 02:17 AM (zCyNd)

713 lol

Posted by: SMH - Get right or get left at May 21, 2018 02:20 AM (QWGds)

714 They enjoy a good seaweed here. About like I enjoy biscuits and gravy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 21, 2018 02:24 AM (c0Pwt)

715 It ain't over 'till the fat lady swims.

Posted by: Miklos, in his best Maureen McGovern voice at May 21, 2018 02:34 AM (zCyNd)

716 i don't mind that it's -

poof

snap...

monday!

what drains the blood from my face is it's

poof

snap...

2018!

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 21, 2018 02:46 AM (Pg+x7)

717 715 It ain't over 'till the fat lady swims.
Posted by: Miklos, in his best Maureen McGovern voice at May 21, 2018 02:34 AM (zCyNd)

Posted by: zombie loretta fuddy at May 21, 2018 02:47 AM (qlpyb)

718 Well, I should hope the week brings some substantive developments...


I'm rapidly growing weary of the interminable who-said-what-whodunit theatre... I'm going to have to get league board to keep track of the score or be relieved of what's left of my bleeding mind if this drawn out spectacle of a slow-motion train wreck goes on much longer!

Posted by: Zettai Roshia-no Bībā at May 21, 2018 02:49 AM (e9G8E)

719 went from the charming buddy holly "not fade away" to the rolling stones cover lip-synched on the mere griffin show, 1964:

merv introduces the band individually and asks -

"do you know the beatles?"

mick says "yeah"

merv: how long have you been a group?"

mick: "18 months"

merv: you have the beatles beat on with the long hair thing. how long has long hair been big in england?"

mick: "4 years"

merv: "what are the barbers doing"

brian jones: "starving!"

then mere asks some screaming girls onto the stage to meet the stones - awkward milling about - then they go into "not fade away".

charming.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 21, 2018 02:52 AM (Pg+x7)

720 ... p.s. "ozymandias" is one of my fav poems.

thought you'd like to know.



all done.



bye-bye.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 21, 2018 02:54 AM (Pg+x7)

721 ... c'mon already! where is everybody?

i really have become the wet blanket of the party.

here, i'll leave again -

bye-bye.

step

step

step

stepstepstepstepstep

[slam]

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 21, 2018 03:21 AM (Pg+x7)

722 Rodhamandias
I met a traveler from an east-coast land,Who said: 'Two vast and ankless calves of stoneStand in the beach dunes. Near them, on the sand,Half sunk, a haggard visage lies, whose frown,And wrinkled neck, and stare of middle age,Tell that its sculptor well those dodderings read.Which yet survive, stamped on those brainless scams,The files that mocked them, and the bytes to shred.
And on the bathroom drives these words appear:
"I am Rodhamandias, Queen of Dems,Look for my mails, ye journos, and despair!"Nothing beside remains. At the dismay,
At that colossal wreck, bitbleached and bare,The devilish Assange smirks far away.'

Posted by: Joseph Porter at May 21, 2018 03:22 AM (kw6yM)

723 Aargh, where did my line breaks go? I apologize if that poem was almost unreadable!

Posted by: Joseph Porter at May 21, 2018 03:24 AM (kw6yM)

724 redc1c4, that was at best a toe dip in the barrel.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 21, 2018 03:32 AM (6FqZa)

725 that was Minx 0.7 alpha at its best...

i got a 500 error when trying to include the sig line of the poast i was quoting, so i dropped that, and tried sending it again. no idea why it went berserk, but that's a Pixy thing, not me.

i don't go tags, and i has close tags in my sig, so i'm not likely to be barrel fodder anytime soon.

unless i copy and paste an entire thread, of course. ;-)

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 03:52 AM (gjrhn)

726 Where did the weekend day go?

3 next weekend, whoo hoo.

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2018 03:52 AM (aC6Sd)

727 make that

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2018 03:53 AM (gjrhn)

728 I'll put the coffee on

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2018 03:54 AM (aC6Sd)

729
#404 Not Found

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 21, 2018 03:56 AM (roQNm)

730 What were you looking for?

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2018 04:03 AM (aC6Sd)

731
Found it.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-tv-wallops

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 21, 2018 04:09 AM (roQNm)

732 Looks like the ustream feed is five minutes behind real time.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 21, 2018 04:30 AM (roQNm)

733 Literally every Sunday someone asks me, "How was your weekend?" And my response is always: "too short."

Every time.

I'm never like.."Man, it just dragged along, and I am so glad to be going back to work tomorrow."

Posted by: TickledPink at May 21, 2018 04:31 AM (TL2pK)

734 Had home fries and scrambled eggs over them and toast. Very good. Still might have 2 Eggos.

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2018 04:32 AM (aC6Sd)

735 Tring Almond milk in my coffee just to get rid of it. Did it before and thought it was ok, its not grabbing me now.

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2018 04:35 AM (aC6Sd)

Weekend Gun Thread

daily-man-up-20170301-107.jpg

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I like this young woman. I hope that her parents are proud of her. They did a fine job in raising her.

This week's feel good story of the week. Good gal 1 - Thug 0

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Legally armed citizens do make a difference.

>Civilians with Guns Intervening in Active Shooter Incidents -- the 2016 and 2017 Data
Data from the FBI's Active Shooter Incidents in the United States in 2016 and 2017 report; legal civilian gun carriers tried to intervene in 6 out of 50 incidents, and apparently succeeded in 3 or 4 of them.


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Once again his zits are covered by egg on his face.


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How do you prevent school shootings? You humble Cob says one way is to put capable cops in schools.


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Boeing improves the B-1B.


Feel free to discuss whatever firearm topics you would like to.

Extra targets, gift certificates from my favorite gun shop and .357 ammo can be sent to petmorons at gmail dot com.

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1 St

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 07:20 PM (cAj82)

2 Nice shot

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 07:20 PM (R5lpX)

3
Pew, pew, pew!!!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 07:20 PM (4DCSq)

4 Boeing is adding some gun turrets to the B-1 that drop down out of the bomb bay.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 07:21 PM (R5lpX)

5 Bone bristling with BFGs? Mericah! F yeah!

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:22 PM (Dp6qK)

6 Love the gun thread.

Also so glad that the food thread is below the fold. I've been battling a stomach bug for three days and the sight of any food is not good for me.

On any normal Sunday, I do love the food thread, too.

Posted by: squeakywheel at May 20, 2018 07:24 PM (3EilK)

7 How do we protect every single thing we value?
Men or women with badges and guns.
Metal detectors.
Plain clothes detectives.

We protect banks, courts, judges, art galleries, some hospitals, even post offices.

Why not schools?

Posted by: navybrat, chillin' and thrillin' at May 20, 2018 07:24 PM (w7KSn)

8 Had a heavy weapons dream last night, only 20mm but nice.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:24 PM (aC6Sd)

9 That article has more goodness.

The AC-130J will be the first to receive a laser weapon.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (Dp6qK)

10 Considering buying a 1911 .45. Have a 9 mm and a .380. They have minimal recoil. I know the 45 slugs are larger and heavier, but have a slower velocity. Is there any appreciable recoil?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (9BLnV)

11 Mmmm...warm gun thread.

Finally made it out to the range today to play with the NM M14 the RMBS dad had built years ago. Shoots beautifully, and reminded me that the biggest problem is the dope behind the rifle, rather than the dope on it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (UXke/)

12 You stop school shootings by making it legal for legal carriers to once again legally carry in buildings that suddenly become illegal just because someone decided it should be illegal.

Teachers don't even HAVE to carry, either. It just has to be legal for law abiding citizens to carry.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (VgKNm)

13 My solution to stopping school shootings is stop teaching Leftism and go back to American history and the constitution

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (aC6Sd)

14 Ok, Obi Weasel Kenobi, here we go. "Birthday presents" arrived yesterday. Comparator and micro seating die.
Two questions. First, I measured the ogive length on some hornady vmax and found some to have ogive length 3 thousandths short. That will make a diff, right?
Second to follow.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (naPOT)

15 Considering buying a 1911 .45. Have a 9 mm and a
.380. They have minimal recoil. I know the 45 slugs are larger and
heavier, but have a slower velocity. Is there any appreciable recoil?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (9BLnV)


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It's my experience that the weight of the gun negates felt recoil in the .45. They really are a joy to shoot in anything above teensy little attempts at carry pistols.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:27 PM (VgKNm)

16 ***


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Seems like something is missing in there.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 07:28 PM (pvjTE)

17 Cz 27 week done.

Shoot only FMJ, as HP will choke on the feed.

Next week is Cz 52 week. I don't expect any issues with the T-34 of pistols.

B1-B Gunship......hopefully it is so successful that the mooselims and NORKS nickname it "Whistling Death" after a previous war bird.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 07:28 PM (EoRCO)

18 10 nothing you can't handle, my 357 has more than my 1911.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:28 PM (aC6Sd)

19
The B-1B gunship article comments are 'special'!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 07:29 PM (4DCSq)

20 A B-1 gunship? Now I know what I want for the zombie apocalypse.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 07:29 PM (wgCUV)

21 How do you prevent school shootings? You humble Cob says one way is to put capable cops in schools.

Another is to stop the generation and creation of these sick, deranged monsters. The shithead family of the spree killer said that he was a "smart, quiet, sweet boy". Yeah ... right. This is the same family that said their little monster was being bullied by the coaches and tried to pin the blame on them. Meanwhile, the spree-killer went after a girl who turned him down and seemed to be whooping it up as he shot everyone in sight.

I ask again, what medications was this thing on?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 07:29 PM (uSurQ)

22 shot Steel Challenge yesterday.

Shot accurately and ran middle of the pack speed wise.

Next Saturday: M1 Garand match.

Should be a hoot.

Then, time for another canoe trip with the firearms.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM (WEBkv)

23 Man, the commenters at Zero Hedge are all kinds of messed up.

Posted by: Croak at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM (wmMT4)

24 I posted a poll on Gab, but I'm going to solicit opinions here as well. I've recently acquired a stripped lower. The question is, what do I build (and why)?


- Another 5.56 (I've got two already)

- A 6.5 Grendel

- A 6.8 SPC

- A .300 Blackout

- A .224 Valkyrie

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM (yzxic)

25 that the biggest problem is the dope behind the rifle, rather than the dope on it."

This.

X 10,000.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 07:31 PM (VXbIB)

26 Uh oh. They got us figured out! (Matt Walton is some actor I never heard of. That and a supergenius.)

Matt Walton
@themattwalton
You know what benefits from school shootings?

The home school movement.

You know what benefits from the home school movement?

Ignorance.

You know what benefits from ignorance?#Republicanism.

You know what benefits from Republicanism?

The #NRA.

See it now?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 07:32 PM (+y/Ru)

27 I went to the Longmont 2A rally yesterday 1-3 PM. Got to see lots of those scary AR-15s. Safest street corner in Colorado except for idjits making illegal turns against pedestrians.

We need common sense car control!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 07:32 PM (6FqZa)

28 Good Cops in Schools.

I was thinking the same thing after my crack about why these shootings don't happen in Chicago schools. I don't know the particulars, but I suspect it is because the schools in Chicago, NYC, and Los Angles became so violent that on-duty police officers were required to be in the schools. Just as a beat cop knows the local troublemakers, the school officer soon learns who the potentially violent students are.

This also points out the absolute failure of Obama's "Promise" program that tolerated aggressively belligerent behavior from minority students when just the opposite should be happening; cause trouble in school, get kicked out of school

Los Angles schools used to have regular gang riots, but I'v not heard news of any lately. What changed?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 07:32 PM (roQNm)

29 14 Ok, Obi Weasel Kenobi, here we go. "Birthday presents" arrived yesterday. Comparator and micro seating die.
Two questions. First, I measured the ogive length on some hornady vmax and found some to have ogive length 3 thousandths short. That will make a diff, right?
Second to follow.
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (naPOT)
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In situations that call for absolute precision at long range, yes. That's why I sort and group all of my match bullets by increments of .001" measuring the ogive to seating stem contact point dimension.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:32 PM (MVjcR)

30 Man, the commenters at Zero Hedge are all kinds of messed up.

Posted by: Croak at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM (wmMT4)


The commentariat over there has always been a bit off (they hate Jews, professionally) but things really seem to have taken a dive over the past year. The articles are also worse. Zerohedge used to be a great place for straight finance news and talk but they've been letting some loonies write more and more posts over there. Shame. It was a great site (even with the lunatic commenters). Now ... it's hard to get through, sometimes. I still go there often, though, because there are still posts well worth reading. Just not nearly as many as there used to be. I rarely bother with the comments.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 07:34 PM (uSurQ)

31 - Another 5.56 (I've got two already)

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM (yzxic)


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I have no experience with it, but I think I remember reading that someone makes an upper that has some sort of quick-change barrel system so you can have multiple options using the same upper. Some other moron will have to tell you more, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:34 PM (VgKNm)

32 Considering buying a 1911 .45. Have a 9 mm and a
.380. They have minimal recoil. I know the 45 slugs are larger and
heavier, but have a slower velocity. Is there any appreciable recoil?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM
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The 1911 platform seems to have more of a roll than a recoil to me.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 07:34 PM (+Dllb)

33 Another is to stop the generation and creation of these sick, deranged monsters. The shithead family of the spree killer said that he was a "smart, quiet, sweet boy". Yeah ... right. This is the same family that said their little monster was being bullied by the coaches and tried to pin the blame on them. Meanwhile, the spree-killer went after a girl who turned him down and seemed to be whooping it up as he shot everyone in sight.

I ask again, what medications was this thing on?
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 07:29 PM (uSurQ)


One thing we can stop doing in public schools is we can stop demanding that boys act like good little girls, and if they don't we drug them until they do.

Boys and girls are DIFFERENT.

Posted by: filbert at May 20, 2018 07:35 PM (953wK)

34 My solution to stopping school shootings is stop teaching Leftism and go back to American history and the constitution

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As a subset of that I'd say teach old fashioned values. Jesus told a parable about building your house not on sand but on rock. Teaching kids that just because you have a dick doesn't mean that you are necessarily a boy is building your house on sand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 07:37 PM (+y/Ru)

35 This guy that I know has a brandnew G19 Gen4. Gotta undercut the triggerguard a bit to fit my, I mean his gorilla hands. And maybe bullnose the front of the slide, kinda like a G26?

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 07:37 PM (zLDYs)

36 I also read that the kid "obtained" his weapons from his father, who probably got them legally.

I'm guessing they are reluctant to note "stolen firearms" for the same reasons it's awkward to mention that murdering a bunch of people is already illegal as sh*t, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:37 PM (VgKNm)

37 Ooh, guns.

No gun gainz this week. I wasn't feeling great so I skipped the range trip. I'll try to go again during the week if I can.

May go back to trying single-hand shooting. I suck at it, my girly wrists can't hold the gun completely still unless I completely sacrifice accuracy.

I was very happy with my double taps last week though, with the Ruger P 90 and the XD 45.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:38 PM (xJa6I)

38 Ok, question 2:
Is it possible to have two sweet spots in a loading?
One right near the lands and one much farther off?
It was gusty at the range today, so my data is suspect.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:38 PM (naPOT)

39 I mentioned earlier today that homeschoolers can make firearms use and maintenance part of their curriculum. Field trips to the gun range make for a great day out with the kids.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 07:38 PM (UdKB7)

40

- Another 5.56 (I've got two already)

- A 6.5 Grendel

- A 6.8 SPC

- A .300 Blackout

- A .224 Valkyrie

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM



Third AR15 I built was 6.8 SPC. It's my 'wild pig' gun. Very nice round.

And apparently, the military is giving it a second look...

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (4DCSq)

41 Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:34 PM (VgKNm)


Theoretically, I could swap out the upper, buffer spring, and BCG as needed, but I want to build a dedicated rifle.

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (yzxic)

42 May go back to trying single-hand shooting. I suck at it, my girly
wrists can't hold the gun completely still unless I completely sacrifice
accuracy.


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The older I get the more satisfied I am with minute of torso.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (VgKNm)

43 Boeing improves the B-1B.
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Coffee-cup holders?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (Evws/)

44 35 This guy that I know has a brandnew G19 Gen4. Gotta undercut the triggerguard a bit to fit my, I mean his gorilla hands. And maybe bullnose the front of the slide, kinda like a G26?
Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 07:37 PM (zLDYs)

Lucky guy. He should get many years of service from that pistol.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:40 PM (xJa6I)

45 Teachers don't even HAVE to carry, either. It just has to be legal for law abiding citizens to carry.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (VgKNm)

This. It even says this right in the post.

"Data from the FBI's Active Shooter Incidents in the United States in 2016 and 2017 report; legal civilian gun carriers tried to intervene in 6 out of 50 incidents, and apparently succeeded in 3 or 4 of them."

75% success is pretty good for a no-cost political solution.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:40 PM (Dp6qK)

46 42 May go back to trying single-hand shooting. I suck at it, my girly
wrists can't hold the gun completely still unless I completely sacrifice
accuracy.


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The older I get the more satisfied I am with minute of torso.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (VgKNm)

Agreed. But I want to keep trying to get better.

Might be a dumb thing to aim for at 48 as my vision and grip get worse But it's a goal. I'm finally getting good at this after....25ish years shooting and carrying actively. Sheesh.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (xJa6I)

47 One thing we can stop doing in public schools is we can stop demanding that boys act like good little girls, and if they don't we drug them until they do.

Boys and girls are DIFFERENT.

Posted by: filbert at May 20, 2018 07:35 PM (953wK)


Yes. Schools need to be restricted back to only teaching the necessary subjects - real subjects. Schools are no place for sex-ed or any of that other stuff. There is biology class - good enough - but all of the moral stuff is the parents' responsibility and the school should not be anywhere near it. This crap with schools giving out free birth control and secretly helping underage kids to get abortions ... people should go to jail for that stuff. But, we're fighting the courts on this stuff, too.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (uSurQ)

48 Theoretically, I could swap out the upper, buffer spring, and BCG as needed, but I want to build a dedicated rifle.


Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (yzxic)


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I'd probably go with .224 Valkyrie. From what little I've read that's something to behold. Plus you might be the first of your group to have it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (VgKNm)

49 I also read that the kid "obtained" his weapons from his father,

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The progressive response will be that the father should not have guns either. That is why Hogg said that he was to confiscate all the guns, from everyone, except his bodyguards and security detail.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (roQNm)

50 Third AR15 I built was 6.8 SPC. It's my 'wild pig' gun. Very nice round.



And apparently, the military is giving it a second look...



Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM (4DCSq)

That's why I'm looking at it and 6.5; both are currently going through the bureaucratic morass that is JCIDS and the RDTampersnadE process being evaluated.

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (yzxic)

51 ZH has gotten so bad they banned me, and i hardly evah poasted there.

certainly nothing controversial, unless someone got mad at me for calling out Jew hate.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 07:43 PM (QDw86)

52 Might be a dumb thing to aim for at 48 as my vision and grip get worse But it's a goal. I'm finally getting good at this after....25ish years shooting and carrying actively. Sheesh.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (xJa6I)


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Always good to have goals. As an older 29 year old, mine is seeing the front site at our local indoor range.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:43 PM (VgKNm)

53 watched the feel good video twice

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at May 20, 2018 07:43 PM (hMwEB)

54 10 Considering buying a 1911 .45. Have a 9 mm and a .380. They have minimal recoil. I know the 45 slugs are larger and heavier, but have a slower velocity. Is there any appreciable recoil?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (9BLnV)

It's more of a 'push' than a 'snap' for the recoil impulse.

My wife likes and prefers to shoot 45 out of a 1911 over 9mm or .40. I've also switched over to 45 for carry. Mostly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:43 PM (xJa6I)

55
I'm guessing they are reluctant to note "stolen firearms" for the
same reasons it's awkward to mention that murdering a bunch of people is
already illegal as sh*t, too.
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Or driving without a license like the Sandy Hook dick.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 07:44 PM (Evws/)

56 Plus you might be the first of your group to have it.


Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (VgKNm)

Yeah, but then I can't bum ammo off of anyone.
Actually, it's lower on my list because it's so new. I know it's a hot round, but I'm also thinking about barrel wear, extractor breakage, etc. I'm thinking that may be a build in a few years once more data is available...but it's not off the table just yet.

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:44 PM (yzxic)

57 See it now?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 07:32 PM (+y/Ru)


Boy that is a special kind of stupid that just does not occur naturally. That takes work!

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:44 PM (Dp6qK)

58 Alexis Isabel
@lexi4prez
Truly amazes me how we can't regulate guns but we can find every way to regulate vaginas

(Alexis Isabel is a "teen feminist" who I never heard of. That and a supergenius.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 07:44 PM (+y/Ru)

59
Matt Walton
@themattwalton
You know what benefits from school shootings?

The home school movement.

You know what benefits from the home school movement?

Ignorance.

You know what benefits from ignorance?#Republicanism.

You know what benefits from Republicanism?

The #NRA.



The former secretary of education under President Obama, Arne Duncan, is proposing that parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed.

Duncan tweeted this shockingly stupid proposal on Friday in response to a tweet from one of his former employees:

Washington Post:

Duncan said in an interview Saturday that the idea was intended to be provocative but that an aggressive approach like a school boycott is needed if gun laws are ever going to change. He has school-age children and said if this idea were to gain traction, his family would participate.

Lead the way! I'll be right behind you! I promise.

"It's wildly impractical and difficult," Duncan said. "But I think it's wildly impractical and difficult that kids are shot when they are sent to school."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 07:45 PM (IqV8l)

60 52 Might be a dumb thing to aim for at 48 as my vision and grip get worse But it's a goal. I'm finally getting good at this after....25ish years shooting and carrying actively. Sheesh.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:41 PM (xJa6I)


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Always good to have goals. As an older 29 year old, mine is seeing the front site at our local indoor range.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:43 PM (VgKNm)

Personally, I CANNOT believe how look it took me to discover how much [focusing] on the front sight increased my accuracy. So many years wasted just looking at the sights. Ah well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:45 PM (xJa6I)

61 Question three: that diagram you sent - horizontal line with incremental powder charge increase. Was that shot at 100 yds/meters?

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:45 PM (naPOT)

62 Actually, it's lower on my list because it's so new. I know it's a hot
round, but I'm also thinking about barrel wear, extractor breakage, etc.

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That's a good point. Might not want to be the one storming that beach.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:46 PM (VgKNm)

63 45 Teachers don't even HAVE to carry, either. It just has to be legal for law abiding citizens to carry.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (VgKNm)

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I had a discussion about arming teachers just the other day. Friend of mine started asking about teachers leaving the classroom looking for the shooter, etc.

I shut that idea down on the spot and told my buddy the responsibility of the instructor is that classroom only. The instructor keeps everyone behind a closed door and until given an all clear, someone coming through the door is risking getting shot.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (WEBkv)

64 You'll fine a .45 is harder to keep on target than a 9mm. That's one reason why many organizations including the Arny are moving to that round. But the 1911 is still a great platform and the right firearm will handle recoil more tha adequately.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (J5Nd5)

65 On a previous Gun Thread I mentioned that I won a raffle drawing for a Ruger American 7mm Magnum rifle. Yesterday we went to pick it up. On the way home we hit a deer. Smashed in the whole front of the Jeep. Purchased annual fifty dollar tickets for twenty years before winning this rifle. Spent fifty dollars in gas to drive up and back. Five hundred dollar deductible for Jeep repair. One hundred dollars for hotel, because the Jeep could not be driven home until the next morning.

Total cost of 'free' rifle = $1650. Could have bought for one thousand dollars less.

Posted by: French Jeton at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (Fjvqd)

66 38 Ok, question 2:
Is it possible to have two sweet spots in a loading?
One right near the lands and one much farther off?
It was gusty at the range today, so my data is suspect.
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:38 PM (naPOT)
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You are making great strides, grasshopper!
Yes. You will usually find high and low accuracy nodes based on powder charge, and a couple of sweet spots for bullet jump. For example, in my 6.5-.284, I load at .013" jump but there is another stable area up around .021" where things tighten up again. It's useful to save all this range data and plot it at home. You can then use the test data to repeat combinations which you think may be suspect due to range conditions.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (Uqz+J)

67 @lexi4prez

Truly amazes me how we can't regulate guns but we can find every way to regulate vaginas


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Didn't some reporter say that the chicks regulating their vaginas was a, if not THE, major cause of this school shooting?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:48 PM (VgKNm)

68 Glock is extending their LEO discount to veterans from Memorial Day to Labor day.

you gotta buy from a certain kind of dealer, or direct from them, shipped to your FFL, and that takes ~120 days.

i'm thinking either 21 or 30 Slim Frame, because those are my only two options in 45ACP, because stupid safety list.

any one have experience with either one? ima test drive them at a local gub store AND at a range before buying. might get two, which is the yearly limit, so we each have a house gun in 45 that we won't GAS if LAPD seizes it for evidence, if we ever actually have to use it in self-defense... G*d forbid.

https://us.glock.com/bluelabel

vet part doesn't show yet.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 07:49 PM (QDw86)

69 @lexi4prez

Truly amazes me how we can't regulate guns but we can find every way to regulate vaginas


Can I get a well-regulated vagina sammich? With vagina on top?

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (Dp6qK)

70 MEA, my boy sucked when he bought his H&K USP in .45. I kept asking him about sight picture and one day he said, "Hey, that front sight shit really works."
He's cleaned me out of .45 reloads ever since.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (naPOT)

71 My wife likes and prefers to shoot 45 out of a 1911 over 9mm or .40. I've also switched over to 45 for carry. Mostly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:43 PM (xJa6I)

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Funny thing, my wife prefers my 1911 over other pistols too.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

72 Straight away heard the father of the Sante Fe school mass murder was a Dana Loesch fan, but the msm hasn't been on that that I have seen.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (aC6Sd)

73 "Americsns killed from AIDS, illegal drug over doses, the Iraq and Afganistan wars and terrorism combined.'
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Perhaps master Hogg should spend more time on his spelling, and less on gun-grabber rhetoric.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (ZpfqO)

74 Considering buying a 1911 .45. Have a 9 mm and a .380. They have minimal recoil. I know the 45 slugs are larger and heavier, but have a slower velocity. Is there any appreciable recoil?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (9BLnV)


Ammunition selection is a big deal.

Choose a low-pressure 165 or 185 grain load, and the recoil will be much less.

Choose a high-pressure +P 230 grain load and the recoil will be much more.

Also, normally a lighter (compact, aluminum) gun will have more recoil with the same load, with the exception that polymer frames spread the recoil impulse out and thus have less perceived recoil.

Many people describe the full-size polymer Glock 21 as having the recoil of a .22 LR.

As always, recoil sensitivity is also very individual. The only way to know is to try.

People like to reduce issues to one factor, but caliber is definitely not enough information to answer the question.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (FDnQi)

75 68 Glock is extending their LEO discount to veterans from Memorial Day to Labor day.

you gotta buy from a certain kind of dealer, or direct from them, shipped to your FFL, and that takes ~120 days.

i'm thinking either 21 or 30 Slim Frame, because those are my only two options in 45ACP, because stupid safety list.

any one have experience with either one? ima test drive them at a local gub store AND at a range before buying. might get two, which is the yearly limit, so we each have a house gun in 45 that we won't GAS if LAPD seizes it for evidence, if we ever actually have to use it in self-defense... G*d forbid.

https://us.glock.com/bluelabel

vet part doesn't show yet.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 07:49 PM (QDw86)

The Glock 21 is one of my top 3 pistols.
The thing is a tank, just eats and shoots anything, even cheap Tula ammo. Shoots more accurately than even my pricely 1911's (which might be more about me, than either gun platforms).

Blue label is a great deal if you can get one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:51 PM (xJa6I)

76 . That's one reason why many organizations including the Arny are moving to that round.
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they're going to that round because today's military is mostly staffed with pussies, tranies, crybabies and millennial fucktards.


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 07:51 PM (QDw86)

77 61 Question three: that diagram you sent - horizontal line with incremental powder charge increase. Was that shot at 100 yds/meters?
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:45 PM (naPOT)
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Yes. I generally have a good idea where I'm going to end up with a load before I start to break in a new barrel and I do all the initial testing at 100 yards. Once I'm satisfied I check at 600yards, and shoot a new barrel/load in at least one club level 1000yd match before I decide its good to go.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (Uqz+J)

78 Gun Gainzzz this week:

A Dreyse .32, RFV marked.
RFV = Reich Finance Ministry (Weimar Reich, not Third)

Another 'French ' Mauser Hsc .32, made in the captured
Mauser factory in 1945. A French Foreign Legion swivel lanyard was added to the butt... so that's pretty cool.

Posted by: retropox at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (UagAo)

79 Total cost of 'free' rifle = $1650. Could have bought for one thousand dollars less.

Posted by: French Jeton at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (Fjvqd)


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That sounds like something that would happen to me. You've got a good story out of it, though.

Listen to Bobby Bare's "The Winner" if you've never heard it:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=JRWlnv0_svU

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (VgKNm)

80 local shop quoted me $491, plus tax, DROS, etc...

best part is, because this is #Failifornia, the state mandated DROS fee is also a taxable item.

Fuckers.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (QDw86)

81 Personally, I CANNOT believe how look it took me to discover how much
[focusing] on the front sight increased my accuracy. So many years
wasted just looking at the sights. Ah well.


Just curious. Do you mean lining up front and rear?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (Tyii7)

82 School Shooter Solution:

Young men need action, danger and a challenge. Create a Rifle/Pistol Club in every government school to teach firearm fundamentals, safety and as a prep to joining the Military with an eye on Combat Arms, i.e. Infantry/Armor/Artillery and not Basketball Handout NCO or LGBTQRSTUV JAG Officer. Teach them to shoot, clean and respect firearms. Run them through a few live fire exercises and obstacle courses. They should be so tired and worn out at the end of the day all they want to do is sleep and not shooting up their classmates.

But who am I kidding.





Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 07:53 PM (EoRCO)

83 65 On a previous Gun Thread I mentioned that I won a raffle drawing for a Ruger American 7mm Magnum rifle. Yesterday we went to pick it up. On the way home we hit a deer. Smashed in the whole front of the Jeep. Purchased annual fifty dollar tickets for twenty years before winning this rifle. Spent fifty dollars in gas to drive up and back. Five hundred dollar deductible for Jeep repair. One hundred dollars for hotel, because the Jeep could not be driven home until the next morning.

Total cost of 'free' rifle = $1650. Could have bought for one thousand dollars less.
Posted by: French Jeton at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (Fjvqd)

Uff da.

You never see the deer with your name on it...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:54 PM (xJa6I)

84 *quickly sketches up patent submission for mounting mini-gun on Big Wheel*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 07:54 PM (5OO3x)

85 May go back to trying single-hand shooting. I suck at it, my girly

wrists can't hold the gun completely still unless I completely sacrifice

accuracy.



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The older I get the more satisfied I am with minute of torso.




Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:39 PM

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Had to try unassisted left hand shooting since my shoulder surgery last month......I suck and it is going to be literally months before I can shoot right handed again.

It's been six weeks since my surgery and the Doc won't even think about letting me start physical therapy until June because of the extent of repairs he had to do in my shoulder. 29 screws and five big holes in my shoulder.

Took the last of my long guns and my 870 to the gun range to put on consignment last week as I will never be able to shoot anything high power again due to the damage to my shoulder.

I am keeping the Ruger.223 and the Colt 9mm along with the Uzi and the M1 Carbine though. I will be able to handle the recoil from them I think.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 07:54 PM (+Dllb)

86 64 You'll fine a .45 is harder to keep on target than a 9mm. That's one reason why many organizations including the Arny are moving to that round. But the 1911 is still a great platform and the right firearm will handle recoil more tha adequately.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 07:47 PM (J5Nd5)

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Not necessarily true.

Everything depends on the platform. A full size 1911 A1 will stay on target very well.

A polymer framed pistol chambered in 45 acp? Not so much.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 07:54 PM (WEBkv)

87 81 Personally, I CANNOT believe how look it took me to discover how much
[focusing] on the front sight increased my accuracy. So many years
wasted just looking at the sights. Ah well.

Just curious. Do you mean lining up front and rear?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (Tyii7)

Yes and no.

Yes, you line up the front and rear sights.
But then you focus intensely on the front sight alone when pressing the trigger.

It's shocking how tight my groups got. I mean like...Catholic schoolgirl tight.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:55 PM (xJa6I)

88 I got a Smith last week. He used to work for the NY State Department of Corrections. I named him Bert.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmihDgKn

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:56 PM (yQpMk)

89 "Americsns killed from AIDS, illegal drug over doses, the Iraq and Afganistan wars and terrorism combined.'

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Perhaps master Hogg should spend more time on his spelling, and less on gun-grabber rhetoric.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 07:50 PM (ZpfqO)


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Wait, I missed this one.

Heck, AIDS has killed 1.5M or so since 1980 in the U.S. alone. Opiods are probably a million since then, too. Hogg isn't comparing that with guns, is he?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 07:57 PM (VgKNm)

90 Young men need action, danger and a challenge. Create a Rifle/Pistol Club in every government school to teach firearm fundamentals, safety and as a prep to joining the Military with an eye on Combat Arms
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That is what the NRA was formed for.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 07:57 PM (5OO3x)

91 But then you focus intensely on the front sight alone when pressing the trigger.


Yeah, that's where I was going. Flash sighting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2018 07:57 PM (Tyii7)

92 RI Red - follow-up to #3:
By doing your initial load work at 100 you can be more confident that range or mechanical considerations are not affecting your test results. And if you look at the examples of my load development data I sent you will notice I repeat each test step on the same target as a check.
BUT always confirm your data at the distance you plan on using it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM (Uqz+J)

93 Took the last of my long guns and my 870 to the gun range to put on consignment last week as I will never be able to shoot anything high power again due to the damage to my shoulder.

Sad. I guess shooting lefty is out of the question.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM (yQpMk)

94 Yep, G21 is a must-have. It's my bedside gun, with a light. I shoot it much better than my 1911, but that may be a sight issue. As far as recoil like a .22 LR, that's a bit of an exaggeration.
Is gun. Feels like gun.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM (naPOT)

95 I got a Smith last week. He used to work for the NY State Department of Corrections. I named him Bert.



https://flic.kr/s/aHsmihDgKn

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:56 PM (yQpMk)


Does this mean I'm a godfather?

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM (yzxic)

96 Uff da.

You never see the deer with your name on it...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:54 PM (xJa6I)

Regarding highway fauna, I have been profoundly lucky, having lived in Wyoming, Colorado, Montana and Alaska. Have never hit anything larger than a jack rabbit.

And, of course, I have now just jinxed myself.

*spits through fingers*
*does Dio devil horns*
*knocks on wood*
*does the hokey-pokey*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM (Mkuv2)

97 88 I got a Smith last week. He used to work for the NY State Department of Corrections. I named him Bert.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmihDgKn
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:56 PM (yQpMk)

I bought a S&W model 10 from J&G sales for like $300. It's the first revolver I've enjoyed shooting.

How's the trigger on Bert?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM (xJa6I)

98 When I was young, I could focus on the front sight, then the target, then back, then out. All focusing in a split second.

Oh to have 18 year old eyes again.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:59 PM (yQpMk)

99 98
When I was young, I could focus on the front sight, then the target, then back, then out. All focusing in a split second.



Oh to have 18 year old eyes again.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:59 PM (yQpMk)


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Ha. Yeah, these days I'll occasionally look and say, "Did I release the slide?"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:01 PM (VgKNm)

100 How's the trigger on Bert?

Seems fine in DA, I'm not twitching it. SA is super slick. It points a little low for me. That may be the Pachmyer grips.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 08:01 PM (yQpMk)

101 we has a Krag rifle landing at the toy store tuesday... that's our only gainnnz this week.

can't even bid on this, or its 380 sister, because CDNN is stoopid about shit.

Remington 51 Super Slim .32 ACP Pistol

Gun Broker.com item #
771023836

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 08:02 PM (QDw86)

102 Personally, I CANNOT believe how look it took me to discover how much [focusing] on the front sight increased my accuracy. So many years wasted just looking at the sights. Ah well.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:45 PM (xJa6I)

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Yeah, I purposely moved away from the "3 dot" sight system, front white sight, two dots on the rear, to a single white dot front site with the rear sight being flat black.

Put the white dot in the middle of the back notch, pull trigger.

I wanted to simplify my sight picture and it seems to have worked very well.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 08:02 PM (WEBkv)

103 redc14 @ 68- Use a G21 as a truck gun. It's sweet in that role.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 08:02 PM (zLDYs)

104 Re front sight:
There are three things you need in your vision - target, front sight and rear sight. Your eye is only capable of focusing on one. Focus on front sight. You'll See rear sight clearly and target will be a bit fuzzy. But you'll hit the target.
Why do you think they call it the Front Sight Academy?
It's biology. And physics and Science.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:04 PM (naPOT)

105 oh yeah, forgot to mention: no Gen 4 or 5 Glocks on the list, and no US made ones either.

Fuck this stupid state.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 08:04 PM (QDw86)

106 For every complex problem there are a number of solutions tat are simple, obvious, and wrong.

We could probably reduce domestic lethal apolitical violence by 80% by concentrating our efforts on the largest sources, but we're only vaguely aware of what they are and our efforts are spent in every direction at once, mostly on political infighting.

We really need an apolitical moonshot-level program on personal violence, but no one will pay for it and it won't get anyone elected, re-elected, or rich, and if academics signed up for it and it *wasn't* political then they'd probably lose their jobs for nothing.

We have an astounding amount of evidence from al over the world that gun ownership restrictions don't improve violence, but that's where all the effort is spent.

It says something depressing about humans that the majority of their political efforts are spent on proven failures (pro or con), like gun control, heavy wealth redistribution, price and wage controls, etc.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 08:05 PM (FDnQi)

107 105 oh yeah, forgot to mention: no Gen 4 or 5 Glocks on the list, and no US made ones either.

Fuck this stupid state.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 08:04 PM (QDw86)

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Let me guess: California?

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 08:06 PM (WEBkv)

108 Grump- that is sad, long ago read Maurice Chevalier at the twilight of his life wasn't allowed alcohol, but he would go into a bar/ restaurant order the best wine and do nothing but smell it.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 08:07 PM (aC6Sd)

109 See the deer. I got into a contest with my ex-girlfriend to see which one of us would see the deer first. She was a competitive person, I'm not, but spotting deer is fun. I also worked with a Navajo kid who could spot RedTailed Hawks. Same thing, you can train yourself to see.

The one deer I didn't see was because I was so tired I had tunnel vision, focused on staying between the white lines on the freeway. The deer crossed an open field, jumped the fence, crossed the other lanes of traffic, and crossed the median, and jumped into the left lane in front of me before I saw it. It fell down twice on the pavement. (Hooves don't work well on concrete). The last thing I saw was the frightened look on the animal's face as it went under my steer tire. Loaded to the maximum legal weight limit, that poor animal just exploded when the truck went over it. Poor thing. Had I not been so impaired by fatigue, I would have seen the animal running toward me.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:07 PM (roQNm)

110 Oh to have 18 year old eyes again.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:59 PM

Seriously. I was shooting through new bifocals today. I think I hurt my brain.

And my ego...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 08:08 PM (UXke/)

111
I saw Mark Robinson's speech at the NRA convention. The guy is good, real good at public speaking. If the Republicans had any brains (which they don't) they have him run for office. He'd tear any lib/Dem to pieces.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 20, 2018 08:08 PM (SiINZ)

112 About 15 years ago, a comparative study of crime in the US and UK was released in the UK.

In summary, it showed that the UK had a much bigger crime problem than the US.

Among others, it showed that residents (or subjects) in the UK were much more likely to be victims of violent assault, mugging, robbery, burglary, car theft, rape (before Rotherham, etc. became known) and down the line.

UK murder rates were lower then in the US (about 10% per capita) and death by gunshot 80% lower. Do the math on that.

The study was simply rejected by the Blair government, which had commissioned it. It was ridiculed in the UK press, initially. But it did not match the experiences of Her Majesty's subjects.

The UK press later got interested, and politicians finally admitted that the UK is more dangerous than than all but a small part of the US.

Further comparisons indicate that about 96% of violent crime in America takes place in about 9% of populated areas (in New York City, about 90%/3%).


A modest submission to the gub thread.

Posted by: Miklos, the 5th Musketeer at May 20, 2018 08:08 PM (zCyNd)

113 Think I'll go to Starbucks tomorrow, wear my MAGA hat and H&K "No Compromise" tee shirt, fire up the laptop, and surf for a couple hours.

Posted by: FloridaMan at May 20, 2018 08:10 PM (xOga2)

114 I'm glad Kyle Kashuv put that Hogg straight.

I'm someone who has flirted with suicide a few times, and he's exactly right...banning any and all possible method I could have used would be a fruitless and invasive waste of time. I got more help through simple counseling than I would have received by being bitter because I needed to go through a psych test to buy a paring knife.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 20, 2018 08:10 PM (PFy0L)

115 Obi Weasel, your instruction is appreciated. And put into use rapidly.
Following hip replacement this week, I intend to have a second birthday. Full length bushing die.
And then, some better optics. And then, a new boltie in 6mm/.243. And then, something in 6.5. And then, Mrs. Red serves me with papers.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:11 PM (naPOT)

116 How do you prevent school shootings? You humble Cob says one way is to put capable cops in schools.

That will become a requirement for home-schooling, just you wait.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 08:11 PM (9tO1t)

117 "the animal's face as it went under my steer tire."

Have steer tires replaced cattle catchers?

Posted by: Miklos, accesorizizng his next truck at May 20, 2018 08:11 PM (zCyNd)

118 Further comparisons indicate that about 96% of violent crime in America takes place in about 9% of populated areas (in New York City, about 90%/3%).

Posted by: Miklos, the 5th Musketeer at May 20, 2018 08:08 PM (zCyNd)


That's one of the keys. Our resources are focused in the wrong places.

Also we're just lame at dealing with mental illness (we as in humans, not just the US), and our education system has become a massive, horribly irresponsible babysitter, and we're completely incoherent at dealing with recreational drugs (and some prescription ones).

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 08:12 PM (FDnQi)

119 Further comparisons indicate that about 96% of violent crime in America takes place in about 9% of populated areas (in New York City, about 90%/3%).


A modest submission to the gub thread.
Posted by: Miklos, the 5th Musketeer at May 20, 2018 08:08 PM (zCyNd)

My instinct is that there are about 50 or 60 neighborhoods in 9 or 10 cities that are responsible for a majority of all gun crimes. Don't have the resources (or the patience) to actually suss that out, it's just a gut feeling. I'm sure there's somebody out there with SPSS and access to the DoJ database whose already seen that, but there's not going to be any funding for a study like that.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:12 PM (1FhAQ)

120 Miklos, accesorizizng his next truck at May 20,

What saved me was the animal went under the tires on the right side, not into the radiator, or the windshield.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:14 PM (roQNm)

121 Started with link for the B-1 gun pod to another link saying Paul Krugman is calling treason for President Trump and others outing Halper as a FBI informant.

Bwaaaa haa, outing people is treason, thats rich.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 08:14 PM (aC6Sd)

122 Further comparisons indicate that about 96% of violent crime in America
takes place in about 9% of populated areas (in New York City, about
90%/3%).


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We definitely can't have that conversation. It would be almost as bad as a homophobe suggesting that AIDS is still mostly just a huge concern for homosexuals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (vDapD)

123 Think I'll go to Starbucks tomorrow, wear my MAGA hat and H&K "No Compromise" tee shirt, fire up the laptop, and surf for a couple hours.


I really like that TRUMP IS YOUR PRESIDENT shirt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (ga0eq)

124 OT: If ESPN wants me to click on a WNBA article, they shouldn't put 'WNBA' right in the title. It's a dead giveaway.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (ZpfqO)

125 Who's. Need to eat something.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (1FhAQ)

126 People die trying to dodge deer, possums, etc. Best not to try any drastic maneuvers if faced with a critter in your path. Also if you see one deer cross the road ahead of you look out because there is liable to be another one right behind it.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (UdKB7)

127 Personal Protection:Shooting While in Bed.

Paul Harrell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH7_7pJfoGU

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (EoRCO)

128 115 Obi Weasel, your instruction is appreciated. And put into use rapidly.
Following hip replacement this week, I intend to have a second birthday. Full length bushing die.
And then, some better optics. And then, a new boltie in 6mm/.243. And then, something in 6.5. And then, Mrs. Red serves me with papers.
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:11 PM (naPOT)
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Absolutely any time, amigo. Happy to help!!
As you perfect your precision reloading, we'll talk about the advantages of having a gunsmith chamber your barrels for you. You can wring out a lot more consistency.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:15 PM (Uqz+J)

129 Personally, I CANNOT believe how look it took me to discover how much [focusing] on the front sight increased my accuracy. So many years wasted just looking at the sights. Ah well.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 07:45 PM (xJa6I)


That's the most effective way to get rid of a flinch.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 20, 2018 08:16 PM (di1hb)

130 Putting cops in every school would require something like 300,000 new cops.

Putting properly trained psychologists with experience specific to violent youth would require something like 100,000 of them.

I ain't sayin' it's impossible, but either one (or both) would make the moon shot look easy. It would make a big difference, but it would be very, very hard and, let's face it, almost all of that effort would be wasted.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 08:16 PM (FDnQi)

131 If that art teacher had been armed the only fatality may have been that special person.

Also, this will continue as long as the media sensationalize and memorialize the brain damaged people.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 08:17 PM (8u+2n)

132 Has anyone had any experience with the Troy Industries CBQ SPC A3? I'm going to be buying an AR-15 soon and I need to keep it in the $600 to $700 range and Troy has a good reputation and this one is in my price range. I'm an AK guy (I own two) but have only limited experience with AR's so I'm reaching out to you guys.

Posted by: Guzalot at May 20, 2018 08:17 PM (schB/)

133 121
Started with link for the B-1 gun pod to another link saying Paul
Krugman is calling treason for President Trump and others outing Halper
as a FBI informant.



Bwaaaa haa, outing people is treason, thats rich.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 08:14 PM (aC6Sd)


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I would think a sitting President coordinating efforts to undermine a federal election by putting the full force of the federal government's spy agencies onto the back of a private citizen who is running as the candidate for the opposition party would be treason, but maybe that's just me.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:17 PM (vDapD)

134
Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:12 PM (1FhAQ)


Once worked with a guy from Shreveport, LA, when I lived in Billings, MT. He said the two cities were about the same size, but the crime rate in Shreveport dwarfed that of Billings.


I have lived in FC CO for two decades. The crime rate in Billings dwarfs that of FC.


Food for thought, won't you?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 08:18 PM (Mkuv2)

135 What saved me was the animal went under the tires on the right side, not into the radiator, or the windshield.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:14 PM (roQNm)

Yep, the deer I hit with my '99 Tahoe two years ago, destroyed my right front clip and also, unbeknownst to me, messed up my transmission cooler. Tranny went out two months later. Been driving for over 40 years and thought I'd never hit a deer. Last two years, hit three of the damn things.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (R5lpX)

136 Bucket of piss>Krugman

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (UdKB7)

137 132 Has anyone had any experience with the Troy Industries CBQ SPC A3? I'm going to be buying an AR-15 soon and I need to keep it in the $600 to $700 range and Troy has a good reputation and this one is in my price range. I'm an AK guy (I own two) but have only limited experience with AR's so I'm reaching out to you guys.
Posted by: Guzalot at May 20, 2018 08:17 PM (schB/)

Troy is fine.
Smith and Wesson Sport 2 is also very good and cheaper
Bravo Company or a used Colt is "best"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (xJa6I)

138 >>>>>Took the last of my long guns and my 870 to the
gun range to put on consignment last week as I will never be able to
shoot anything high power again due to the damage to my shoulder.



Sad. I guess shooting lefty is out of the question.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM
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At this point in my life (61) it isn't going to happen. Plus I am not going to go traipsing in the woods hunting anymore.

And I just bought a lever action Winchester 94 in .357 before my surgery. I seriously doubt I will ever be able to shoot that very well even after I heal up.

My son doesn't want any of my guns so it's best to sell them off to someone who will actually use them.


Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (+Dllb)

139 I think there are alternatives to hiring 300,000 police officers.

I, for one, would volunteer to serve in the capacity as a security resource whatever. Some training for volunteers, and it is more doable.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (PFy0L)

140 What saved me was the animal went under the tires on the right side, not into the radiator, or the windshield.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:14 PM (roQNm)

Glad you lucked out.

Myself, I have never hit a deer with a car (we have plenty, I am careful).

Because that would be cheating.

Posted by: Miklos, withou a Mary Kay pink pickup at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (zCyNd)

141 I'm sure there's somebody out there with SPSS and access to the DoJ database whose already seen that, but there's not going to be any funding for a study like that.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:12 PM (1FhAQ)


Look up CPRC 5%, there are studies showing that, and the CPRC one said 68% of homicides occur in 5% of counties.

There are others if you keep digging.

There are other patterns to look out for as well.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 08:20 PM (FDnQi)

142 What I've learned after hitting many a local fauna is that you don't swerve. Smack the sh*t out of it, but keep driving in the direction you were going. I've seen many people badly injured because they swerved and saved Bambi or a dog. Hit it and keep going the direction you intended to go.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:21 PM (vDapD)

143 Iron Mike Golf, when I shoot hand guns, my mantra is: Front Sight. Aim Small, Miss Small.
Works, if I remember.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:21 PM (naPOT)

144 And I just bought a lever action Winchester 94 in .357 before my
surgery. I seriously doubt I will ever be able to shoot that very well
even after I heal up.

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DIBS!

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:22 PM (vDapD)

145 What I've learned after hitting many a local fauna is that you don't swerve. Smack the sh*t out of it, but keep driving in the direction you were going.


Do this consistently and eventually they will learn that they can't win.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 08:23 PM (ga0eq)

146 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (+Dllb)


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That was posted in good fun, btw. I'm sorry you're having to deal with that crap.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:23 PM (vDapD)

147 Wow... just watched the 'debate' from the sidebar...

First off... it was THREE against one...

Having a Gay Jewish Liberal defend the RIGHT??? Really???

And then of course, the guy using Racist attacks, to defend against Racism....

It was.... typical....

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 20, 2018 08:24 PM (NgKpN)

148 If I can I'll miss 'em but if it comes down to me or the possum, the possum gets it.

I've hit two deer. One of them tried to jump in front of our motorhome but missed and bounced off the side.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:24 PM (UdKB7)

149 Also, this will continue as long as the media sensationalize and memorialize the brain damaged people.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 08:17 PM (8u+2n)


This is a huge problem with mass attacks of *any* kind. Most school shooters compare themselves to others before going on their rampages, and people forget when on this topic that terror attacks are often prompted as much by other terror attacks as they are any underlying issue. Jihadis have whole semi-underground communication networks showing off terror attacks as encouragement.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 08:24 PM (FDnQi)

150 105 oh yeah, forgot to mention: no Gen 4 or 5 Glocks on the list, and no US made ones either.

Fuck this stupid state.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 08:04 PM (QDw86)

Hurm.

Well Gen 2 and Gen 3 Glocks are just about right, if you don't need to hang lights from them.

Just...trying to find a bright side here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:25 PM (xJa6I)

151 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 08:19 PM (+Dllb)



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That was posted in good fun, btw. I'm sorry you're having to deal with that crap.




Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:23 PM

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It gave me a laugh.....a buddy at the VFW asked me if he could have the Colt AR 9mm and my truck if I died during surgery.........

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 08:25 PM (+Dllb)

152 >>>This week's feel good story of the week. Good gal 1 - Thug 0

What a steaming sack of shit. I'm glad he died and did not stick around to clog the Brazilian court system for decades. She should have just put a bullet through his brain.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 08:25 PM (/qEW2)

153 Do this consistently and eventually they will learn that they can't win.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 08:23 PM (ga0eq)


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I had a friend who totaled a new-ish six series BMW because he didn't want to hit a turkey.

$20 at Thanksgiving = $20K into a tree

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:25 PM (vDapD)

154 Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 07:30 PM

The correct answer, of course, is something only you can determine.

3 weeks ago, the .224 Valkyrie wouldn't have been on my list. The more that I've looked at it, the more impressed I am. If it's not my next build, it will be the one after.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 08:26 PM (DMUuz)

155 I need a place of my own to shoot before I get more guns. So Heidi Acres then I suppose. Thinking of getting acreage then putting a manufactured home on it. Or a bunker house out of a storage crate.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:28 PM (aljs9)

156
Wow... just watched the 'debate' from the sidebar...


I didn't bother. I looked at the names and knew what to expect.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 08:28 PM (Er5TT)

157 I've hit two deer. One of them tried to jump in front of our motorhome but missed and bounced off the side.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:24 PM (UdKB7)

Self-mounting antlers. Cool.

Posted by: Miklos, without any truck, currently at May 20, 2018 08:28 PM (zCyNd)

158 I would really like to see a big, slowish rifle round.

Like a 10mm, maybe pushing 2k FPS.

I'd be interested in seeing what you could do with that. Big impact cross-section, heavyish bullet weight.

I think we keep trying to go 'small and fast', which does do some interesting things on impact. But I think there's a point of diminishing effectiveness vs wind/barriers/motivated goblins.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:29 PM (xJa6I)

159 I would go 6.8 creedmore. I tell my friends .300 blackout is white collar 7.62x39.

Just picked up my 25 rnd pro mag for the xdm.45 ACP. As you may gut of guessed, I don't live in CA.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 20, 2018 08:29 PM (dyniv)

160 8 >>>>>Took the last of my long guns and my 870 to the
gun range to put on consignment last week as I will never be able to
shoot anything high power again due to the damage to my shoulder.



Sad. I guess shooting lefty is out of the question.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 07:58 PM
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Grump928(C) - one of our team guys had his shoulder replaced after last years U.S. Nationals and is out of commission for high power for a year. He has started competing in the new .22 cal F-Class division and loves it. Its a great way to keep in practice and is something you might consider.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (Uqz+J)

161 So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with 4+ round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard use, plastic stock, all weather?

Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)

162 Hell, I live in the fucking desert. I should be able to find a place to shoot besides the range.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:31 PM (aljs9)

163 "Self-mounting antlers. Cool"

Mrs f'd was behind me and she said the deer got up and ran away.

The other deer I hit popped up out of a ditch and BANG! $3000 damage to my then new 1989 Ford Probe.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:31 PM (UdKB7)

164 I would really like to see a big, slowish rifle round.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:29 PM (xJa6I)


Sounds like .458 SOCOM or .450 Bushmaster TBH.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 08:32 PM (y87Qq)

165 155 I need a place of my own to shoot before I get more guns. So Heidi Acres then I suppose. Thinking of getting acreage then putting a manufactured home on it. Or a bunker house out of a storage crate.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:28 PM (aljs9)
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Good man!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:32 PM (MVjcR)

166

I wished I lived in the dessert. I just went outside, I hate the outside, and it was like I was living in the woods. Bugs, leaves, branches, everywhere.

All of a sudden everything bloomed.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 08:33 PM (Er5TT)

167 164 I would really like to see a big, slowish rifle round.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:29 PM (xJa6I)

Sounds like .458 SOCOM or .450 Bushmaster TBH.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 08:32 PM (y87Qq)

Jah, similar. Just want to go bigger in diameter.
There's .50 Beowulf I guess.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:33 PM (xJa6I)

168
I miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 08:33 PM (Er5TT)

169 He has started competing in the new .22 cal F-Class
division and loves it. Its a great way to keep in practice and is
something you might consider.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (Uqz+J)

I would really like that W. What would you suggest for a competition 22?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (aljs9)

170 The Massacre Supporting Media is scoring a Two-Fer with this.

Sensationalistic story to captivate readers and it pushes an anti-gun narrative. Of course they will run with it. Even though their actions provide these dead-end losers with 15 minutes of fame. While other losers get to posture atop the bodies.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (PWZHw)

171 Took the last of my long guns and my 870 to the
gun range to put on consignment last week as I will never be able to
shoot anything high power again due to the damage to my shoulder.



Sad. I guess shooting lefty is out of the question.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May




My grandpa used to shoot pheasants with his shotgun from the hip.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (MTjB1)

172 161 So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with 4+ round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard use, plastic stock, all weather?
Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)

Best bang for buck? Savage Axis or a Ruger.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (xJa6I)

173 Like a 10mm, maybe pushing 2k FPS.

They make the .700 WTF T-Rex hunting rifle.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 20, 2018 08:35 PM (n63ms)

174 161 So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with 4+ round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard use, plastic stock, all weather?
Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)

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Ruger's Gunsite Scout is an excellent rifle.

I have one, it's held up well. However, I recommend the after market polymer magazines. The steel magazine the rifle comes with leaves a bit to be desired.

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at May 20, 2018 08:35 PM (WEBkv)

175 163 "Self-mounting antlers. Cool"

Mrs f'd was behind me and she said the deer got up and ran away.

The other deer I hit popped up out of a ditch and BANG! $3000 damage to my then new 1989 Ford Probe.
Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:31 PM (UdKB7)

I've had close encounters with two deer, one of which I brushed with a mirror and one I hit dead on. The first one shook its head and walked away, the other one died on impact and was spirited off by somebody living by the road. Lessons learned: deer are intensely stupid. If you have time to stop, stop completely and don't depend on the deer to get the message about messing with cars.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:35 PM (1FhAQ)

176
So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with 4+
round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard use,
plastic stock, all weather?

Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)


Remington 700 SPS. Replace trigger with one of your choosing, replace the Hogue overmold stock with a Magpul Hunter.

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 08:35 PM (yzxic)

177 Kriss makes a very nice 10 mm carbine. Pretty good at least out to 200 yards. Minimal recoil. I fired a friend's last week and it was good. Needs a sight adjustment as we both fired up and right at the target.
By contrast the AR 15 was dead on at 200 and 300 yards. That was as far a safe shooting berm as we had.
It won't convince me to buy one but it'll do nicely in close.

Posted by: Winston at May 20, 2018 08:35 PM (wgCUV)

178 Jah, similar. Just want to go bigger in diameter.
There's .50 Beowulf I guess.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:33 PM (xJa6I)


Oh. .50-70 Government, then.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 08:35 PM (y87Qq)

179 172 161 So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with 4+ round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard use, plastic stock, all weather?
Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)

Best bang for buck? Savage Axis or a Ruger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (xJa6I)

Oh wait, drop free mag?

Hmm. Ruger makes a Scout rifle in .308 but the longest barrel is an 18.5"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:36 PM (xJa6I)

180 Pogomip, check out Savage. Lots of inexpensive, but accurate rifles. My Axis in .30-06 runs fine.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:37 PM (naPOT)

181

btw, I never knew until recently they make a "AR-308."

And an "AR-20"?? 10?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 08:37 PM (Er5TT)

182 161 So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with 4+ round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard use, plastic stock, all weather?
Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)
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What is your intended application? Target? Hunting? General plinking? On the economy end of the scale, the Savage 10 is pretty decent out of the box.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:37 PM (MVjcR)

183 182
161 So, I feel a need for a bolt action, 20"+ barrel, .308 or 30-06 with
4+ round drop free mag. Any ideas on best deals on a rifle for hard
use, plastic stock, all weather?

Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (vnB5M)

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What is your intended application? Target? Hunting? General
plinking? On the economy end of the scale, the Savage 10 is pretty
decent out of the box.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:37 PM (MVjcR)

+1 on Savage. Love their accutrigger.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 20, 2018 08:38 PM (D3cJf)

184

Hillary Clinton took subtle jabs at President Trump during her Class Day speech at Yale, which she began by pulling out a Russian hat in an apparent reference to the ongoing investigation into Russian election meddling.

Clinton also used her speech to talk about the polarization in American politics and implore the students to work to uphold American democracy.

"The radicalization of American politics hasn't been symmetrical," Clinton said. "There are leaders who blatantly incite people with hateful rhetoric."

"Waging a war on the rule of law and a free press, de-legitimizing elections, perpetrating shameless corruption, and rejecting the idea that our leaders should be public servants undermines our national unity," she added, in an apparent reference to Trump, whom she never mentioned by name.

She added that only "radical empathy" would be a substantial response to the issues plaguing the U.S.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 08:38 PM (IqV8l)

185 Kris's rifles are expensive...at least the ones I've seen advertised.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 08:38 PM (R5lpX)

186 "There are leaders who blatantly incite people with hateful rhetoric."



Rhetoric like "deplorable" and "irredeemable"?

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 08:39 PM (yzxic)

187 She added that only "radical empathy" would be a substantial response to the issues plaguing the U.S.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 08:38 PM (IqV8l)

"Hillary Clinton" and "radical empathy" don't belong in the same sentence.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:39 PM (1FhAQ)

188 The other deer I hit popped up out of a ditch and BANG! $3000 damage to my then new 1989 Ford Probe.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:31 PM (UdKB7)

Years and years and years ago (I'm old) i was driving home in my MGB, top dw2on, on the back roads of upstate NY pretty fcuked up..Ok very. The road was a big snake i had to stay on the back of. Hey,, it was the 60's and chicks. A deer jumps off the berm, i hit it, it falls on the windshield breaking it, falls to the ground, shakes it off and takes off. All i could think was what if it jumped into the car. Yikes.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:39 PM (aljs9)

189 138 ..."And I just bought a lever action Winchester 94 in .357 before my surgery. I seriously doubt I will ever be able to shoot that very well even after I heal up."

Unless you can't deal with the position or working the lever, hold onto the Winchester. 38 specials out of that rife feel like a pop gun so recoil shouldn't be a problem. Adding a pad to it would reduce the recoil even more.

Posted by: JTB at May 20, 2018 08:40 PM (V+03K)

190 Yesterday I watch a guy assume the prone position behind a cold gun, rearrange his beard, and hit a golf ball at 563 yards. Then he chambered another round and hit it again. Golf ball. Two shots, two hits. Pretty impressive.

Posted by: Richard at May 20, 2018 08:40 PM (hUZo5)

191 171
Took the last of my long guns and my 870 to the

gun range to put on consignment last week as I will never be able to

shoot anything high power again due to the damage to my shoulder.







Sad. I guess shooting lefty is out of the question.



Posted by: Grump928(C) at May









My grandpa used to shoot pheasants with his shotgun from the hip.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (MTjB1)

I have a Remington 870 tactical 12 gauge shotgun to keep the home safe. My wife is a tiny woman (105lbs dripping wet) and this kicks way too much for her when shooting from the shoulder. Started teaching her to shoot from the hip and it is much more manageable.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 20, 2018 08:40 PM (D3cJf)

192 Mark Andrew Edwards, just get a 12ga shotgun with a slug barrel. Big hunk o' metal moving slow but doing damage on arrival. Kinda like a container ship hitting a destroyer?

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 08:41 PM (zLDYs)

193 169 He has started competing in the new .22 cal F-Class
division and loves it. Its a great way to keep in practice and is
something you might consider.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:30 PM (Uqz+J)

I would really like that W. What would you suggest for a competition 22?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (aljs9)
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He had a custom gun built and you probably don't want to go that route to start. I'd suggest just about any 22 platform you can mount optics to for funsies. If,you're interested in competing, I can check with my friend for recommendations if you like!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

194 I would really like that W. What would you suggest for a competition 22?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM

Walther. Always. Pay no attention to Anschutz.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 08:41 PM (UXke/)

195 Hard to beat a Savage for value:quality. The accutrigger is nice, too. I got one when they first came out and like it a lot.

I love 30-06 and have shot them all my life. That said, I'd buy a .308 unless you've got a historical/family fetish for them like me. Much easier on the shoulder and 99% as good. Probably better in some applications.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:42 PM (vDapD)

196 joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 08:35

While crossing the Great State of Pennsylvania one winter day, again, impaired by fatigue, I was just following the vehicle in front of me when I passed two deer walking down the shoulder of the freeway just like pedestrians walking on a sidewalk. They were walking with the flow of traffic.

Figure it is an eight foot lane and an eight foot shoulder and those deer were about seven feet from highway traffic, steady, high speed traffic, just walking along going about their business ignoring the vehicles.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:42 PM (roQNm)

197 Remington 700 SPS. Replace trigger with one of your choosing, replace the Hogue overmold stock with a Magpul Hunter.

^^^^^^This. I put together one in OD 16" bull barrel. 3-9 Leupold Mark 3 and I was pinging iron at 750. Very happy with that built, minus optics I was at around $950. Need to put a Timony trigger on it and purchase a mute button eventually. Rem 700 short action is the Chevy 350 of the bolt world. Savage is really thin in the aftermarket chassis and detachable mag dept.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 20, 2018 08:43 PM (pRLf4)

198 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 08:38 PM (IqV8l)

The Beast stirred.

The Beast shat, with great volume and a thunderclap.

The Beast grunted, and shifted her substantial form.


The Beast shat once more, then drifted into a dream of Stygian darkness and flashing lights, and a desire to find a toilet.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 08:43 PM (Mkuv2)

199 He had a custom gun built and you probably don't
want to go that route to start. I'd suggest just about any 22 platform
you can mount optics to for funsies. If,you're interested in competing, I
can check with my friend for recommendations if you like!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

Is there 22 pistol competition? I think that would be more to my liking. Never mind Google. Duh. Then it would be a match grade pistol.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:44 PM (aljs9)

200 There are leaders who blatantly incite people with hateful rhetoric."

Rhetoric like "deplorable" and "irredeemable"?

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 08:39 PM (yzxic)

Forget it it Jake, it's Libdom. Their quest is pure, so they can say whatever they want with no reprisals..

Posted by: Calm Mentor at May 20, 2018 08:45 PM (I16G8)

201 "Hillary Clinton took subtle jabs at President Trump during her Class Day speech at Yale,"

Now she's getting an award from Harvard, presented by Albright.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:45 PM (UdKB7)

202 All round best .22? Ruger 10/22. Mine with stainless barrel and medium good optics will do 1/2" at 50 yds.
Sure, there are competition guns that will do better. At 3-4 times the price. Hey, it's a frickin' .22!

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:45 PM (naPOT)

203 The former First Lady, U.S. Senator, Secretary of State and Democratic candidate for president will be awarded Friday in Cambridge with the Radcliffe Medal, which the university says honors individuals whose life and work have had a "transformative impact on society."

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:46 PM (UdKB7)

204 "Hillary Clinton took subtle jabs at President Trump during her Class Day speech at Yale,"


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Way to act just like a f*cking woman, Mrs. President Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:47 PM (vDapD)

205 A transformative impact on society is how you get Trump.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:47 PM (UdKB7)

206 Intended application? All of the above, but mostly clearing out varmints beyond range of 7.62x39

This caught my eye:
https://bit.ly/2rWX9fe

Anyone had experience with such?

Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:47 PM (vnB5M)

207 Now she's getting an award from Harvard, presented by Albright.
Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:45 PM (UdKB7)

Fucking WOW!

I was so wrong to judge her so wrongly, lo these many years.

Double Debbil Hornz!!!!

How does she fit her cloven hooves into those horrifically over-taxed shoes?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 08:48 PM (Mkuv2)

208 This MS-13 media faux outrage bullshit will piss off Hispanics.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 08:49 PM (rnAwa)

209 So when does the Hildabeast get her Nobel Peace Prize as consolation for losing to Trump.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 08:49 PM (R5lpX)

210 202
All round best .22? Ruger 10/22. Mine with stainless barrel and medium good optics will do 1/2" at 50 yds.

Sure, there are competition guns that will do better. At 3-4 times the price. Hey, it's a frickin' .22!

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:45 PM (naPOT)

I love Ruger. Grew up shooting the 22 carbine. sweet gun. I carry a Glock but a Ruger would do nicely. Heidi carries their 38 LCP. Even with +P the recoil is very manageable.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 08:49 PM (aljs9)

211 so my local pub had a couple of loud soyboys talking about Jared Polis, so I went to elbow land instead. yay elbows. wish the Rockets were doing better

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 08:50 PM (W6ceD)

212 Suicidal Virtue Signaling

Ethnic Arab pr0n star turns over to Austin, TX PD her shotgun...

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79544

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM (PWZHw)

213 Pug, you're a fcuking poet of the highest caliber.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM (zLDYs)

214
Considering buying a 1911 .45. Have a 9 mm and a .380. They have minimal recoil. I know the 45 slugs are larger and heavier, but have a slower velocity. Is there any appreciable recoil?
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (9BLnV)








One thing about the 45 is that it's a low pressure round. 9mm and 40 are much higher pressure (an additional 10k psi or so, if memory serves). So it's not as snappy as the 9 and 40, even though the total amount of recoil is larger than the other two cartridges.

The snappiness is pretty manageable in the 9, because there's simply not much total recoil energy. The 40 tends to cause a lot of folks to dislike it because it's got the snappiness of the 9, but a lot more total recoil, so you really feel the snap.

In other words, what's more unpleasant, a short, sharp punch in the shoulder or a full-body shove in the same shoulder with an open hand?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM (eXA4G)

215 Ruger 10/22 is a great choice. I don't even know if they're still making them, but if you can find an old Marlin 81 at a gun show ($100?), those things are built like tanks and accurate as heck.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:53 PM (vDapD)

216 Cannibal Bob, Ruger hits a sweet spot with a lot of guns. I'm never without my LCP in .380. Except in the shower.
But I just saw something where Ruger's new board of directors told them to track misuse of their guns. WTF? More infiltration. We'd better buy stock, get on the board and keep an eye out.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:54 PM (naPOT)

217 Ruger does have incredible customer service, so that would probably tip me towards them for a new .22. I've always shot their pistols better than most any other brand, too. I guess their ergonomics fit me well.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 08:54 PM (vDapD)

218 A transformative impact on society is how you get Trump.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:47 PM (UdKB7)

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Yep. Harpie shrews is is how we will get 4 more years of him, bless her empty, soulless, heart shaped chest cavity that at one time contained a heart.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at May 20, 2018 08:55 PM (I16G8)

219 Jared Polis, so I went to elbow land instead. yay elbows. wish the Rockets were doing better
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 08:50 PM (W6ceD)

(Jump to top of page)

Last election cycle I saw names I did not recognize. Learned later that FC had been gerrymandered from the 4th to the 2nd CD.

I began to realize that the gubmint may not totally be looking for average Pugs like me. *tosses several bags of locally sourced sarcasm on comment*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 08:55 PM (Mkuv2)

220 Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:47 PM (vnB5M)
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I don't have any experience with Mossberg rifles, but the price is right. I've coached with the Vortex Optics engineer and he (and his dad) are great guys if that helps! I doubt you're going to get much beyond an introductory setup at that price point but it should certainly serve the purpose you describe. Try 168gr Federal Gold Medal Match ammo inside about 600 yards.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 08:55 PM (MVjcR)

221 Apropos of nothing in particular, a Donald Trump tweet from 2014.

>>"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" --General George S. Patton

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)

222 which the university says honors individuals whose life and work have had a "transformative impact on society."

It's like giving a trophy to the Cleveland Browns.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 08:57 PM (zuaBT)

223 btw, I never knew until recently they make a "AR-308."

And an "AR-20"?? 10?

The AR-10 is the original Stoner service rifle in 7.62 NATO. It was a late entrant to the competition that resulted in the M-14 as we know it. The AR-15/M-16 was later spawned from it.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 20, 2018 08:57 PM (brIR5)

224 Ethnic Arab pr0n star turns over to Austin, TX PD her shotgun...

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79544
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM

So, over under on when jihadi john whacks her?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 08:57 PM (UXke/)

225 I just realized the gun sign says "GUN" on it. I guess in case there was any question.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (UdKB7)

226 Things I learned today: Never give up on the 2018 Braves.

Could be something special developing over there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (zuaBT)

227 Jared and his staff are pleased to provide the constituents of Colorado's Second Congressional District with a variety of services to help cut through the red tape of the federal government. Whether you need help with a federal agency, are trying to find out if federal grants are available for your project,

What this country needs are more federal services and more federal grants, and more representatives Like Jared to help citizens deal with their government.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (roQNm)

228 Weasel, what caliber do you use with Varget?
Thoughts, generally? I figure it's like Bullseye with handguns - good over a number of calibers.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (naPOT)

229 So, dad just popped in at 8:30 this am. He leaves me at least one vm everyday. I talk to or see him every day. This am was striking in that he has become such a small shell of himself.

Tonight I called his best buddy, whom he sees a few time a week for happy hour.

I am contemplating approaching dad with moving in with him. No way he would move in here after 45 yrs in the same house.

I think the best approach would be that if I moved in, I could help him and save more money for my retirement. Not that I need to, but he has to be the old school gentleman. I would pay half the bills, which he wont let me do, but so many other things I could pay for that he would be ok with.

I'm torn.

Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (a3OL0)

230 Try 168gr Federal Gold Medal Match ammo inside about 600 yards.
Posted by: Weasel

Thank you, Mr Weasel!

Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:59 PM (vnB5M)

231 it should have the word SIGN on it

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 09:00 PM (W6ceD)

232 Ethnic Arab pr0n star turns over to Austin, TX PD her shotgun...



http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79544

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM



So, over under on when jihadi john whacks her?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 08:57 PM (UXke/)


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This is gun control in a nutshell. They know they can't be trusted to not get pissed and start shooting, and they assume everyone is just like them, so they are determined to make sure no one else can suddenly snap and just start murdering people like they are pretty sure they could do at any moment.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:00 PM (vDapD)

233 Radical empathy doesn't quite mean what Mrs. Clinton thinks it means. Heh.

Posted by: Zombie Chairman Mao at May 20, 2018 09:00 PM (Tyii7)

234
Ethnic Arab pr0n star turns over to Austin, TX PD her shotgun...

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79544
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM

So, over under on when jihadi john whacks her?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 08:57 PM (UXke/)








Especially since ISIS and a bunch of other mohammedan miscreants have already made death threats against her.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:00 PM (eXA4G)

235 Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (roQNm)


Would that be Jared Polis? Fk that guy with a flaming barbed wire pineapple right up the Hope hole.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:00 PM (a3OL0)

236 Infidel,

At some point the roles always swap. A little finesse will probably get you there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 09:01 PM (zuaBT)

237 i hit a wild boar up at Ft Hunter Ligget one annual training evening...

the dumb bastard actually charged my Deuce and a half.

not sure if it was the front bumper, the front axle, the tranny/transfer case, the middle axle, the rear axle or the water boo on the hitch that killed him, but he was still there the next morning.

no, there was no damage to "Devil Doll"

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:01 PM (QDw86)

238 "10/22, huh. Yeah, those are nice, I guess. Oh, this? It's a 1961 Nylon 66 - you've probably never heard of it. You really can't get that warm analog tone from anything but a tube mag."

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 09:01 PM (y87Qq)

239 Things I learned today: Never give up on the 2018 Braves.



Could be something special developing over there.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (zuaBT)


Can I apply this to the Caps?

Posted by: long Suffering Capitals Fan at May 20, 2018 09:01 PM (sXefu)

240 228 Weasel, what caliber do you use with Varget?
Thoughts, generally? I figure it's like Bullseye with handguns - good over a number of calibers.
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (naPOT)
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Varget is the go to powder in .308. I use H4350 in my .260 Remington and 6.5-.284. Varget can be used in a range of calibers but might not always be the best choice for extreme accuracy.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (MVjcR)

241 Good morrow to you kind and gentle people. Keep your powder dry and your eyes peeled. And remember, the government ain't here to help. I'll meet y'all back here around 0500 for butter coffee.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (zLDYs)

242 "Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?"

Are you single? If you can, do it. Move in with your dad and take care of him as long as you can.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (UdKB7)

243 Why don't u h8ers do a weekend gum thread?

Like sugar-free?

Or cool flavors like Mango-Marx?

I reject your chiclero colonial past, Mr Wrigley!

Posted by: Prof. Dr. David Hogg at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (zCyNd)

244 Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (a3OL0)


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Figure out how to make it work. I've been really struggling with my parents' mortality lately, and if I were in a situation to be around them and help them more I would try.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (vDapD)

245 i looked at 224 Valkyrie for a minute, but it appears to be a barrel eater.

i think it was the Nosler page that said to expect 2K to 4K life, depending on what kind of shooting you're doing.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (QDw86)

246 AR-10 is a thing of beauty. I have two, one KAC LPR and a Colt 901.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (J5Nd5)

247 Can I apply this to the Caps?

Those guys came out flatter last night than an open can of Coke sitting in the sun for a week.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 09:03 PM (zuaBT)

248 RedMindBlueState, even worse than that.

Apparently she has received death threats from VagiSIL and still turned over the shotgun. So she is depending upon the police to only be minutes away.

Mia on 911, "Help!"

Operator, "What is the nature of the emergency?"

Mia, "Islamic thugs are breaking into my house to Honor Kill me!"

Operation, "I'm sorry but Austin PD can not get involved in such culture based conflicts and still respect all cultures."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 09:03 PM (PWZHw)

249
Weasel, what caliber do you use with Varget?
Thoughts, generally? I figure it's like Bullseye with handguns - good over a number of calibers.
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (naPOT)







I know that Varget's extremely popular for 5.56. I've got a couple of jars of it sitting in my supply closet for that purpose right now.

The special Varget stink is..... special.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:04 PM (eXA4G)

250 10/22, huh. Yeah, those are nice, I guess. Oh, this?
It's a 1961 Nylon 66 - you've probably never heard of it. You really
can't get that warm analog tone from anything but a tube mag."

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 09:01 PM (y87Qq)


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And nothing will drop hot brass down your shirtsleeve like an old bottom-eject Browning .22.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:04 PM (vDapD)

251 245 i looked at 224 Valkyrie for a minute, but it appears to be a barrel eater.

i think it was the Nosler page that said to expect 2K to 4K life, depending on what kind of shooting you're doing.
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:02 PM (QDw86)
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Overbore cartridges like the 6.5-.284 I just mentioned make you wish you owned a barrel company. I get about 800 rounds of match accuracy, then it's a tomato stake.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:04 PM (Uqz+J)

252 Apropos of nothing in particular, a Donald Trump tweet from 2014. 

>>"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" --General George S. Patton

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 08:56 PM (/tuJf)

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Love it, and this explains much of the success he has enjoyed as President. He knows who they are, what they want to try and do, and he beats them every time.

Great fun to watch him in action,.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (I16G8)

253 "Truly amazes me how we can't regulate guns but we can find every way to regulate vaginas"
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Huh?
Forget "every way." I can't think of one single way.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (0jtPF)

254
The special Varget stink is..... special.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:04 PM (eXA4G)
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Yep!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (MVjcR)

255 Does the pornstar worry a lot about being raped since half the population has the tool for it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (vDapD)

256
Savage has very nice, for the price, bolt rifles.

I have a .22 WMR and a .223.

A lot of the gator hunters on 'Swamp People' use them, but the show blurs the stock, because of the 'racist' decal on the stock!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 09:06 PM (4DCSq)

257 Instead of going to the range this weekend I spent Saturday prepping some gun control fact sheets for a neighboring community that is now considering an AWB.

BTW, any Northbrook IL Morons you're about to get reamed. Go over to the illinois carry website and the illinois politics forum to see how you can help with the fight this Tuesday. Literally. We need you.

Anyway, the goal is to strip away the safety argument and expose them as the virtue signalling resist movement drones that they are. No more, Mr nice guy.

Posted by: Keith at May 20, 2018 09:06 PM (JNmPa)

258 "Truly amazes me how we can't regulate guns but we can find every way to regulate vaginas"

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Huh?

Forget "every way." I can't think of one single way.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (0jtPF)


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Marriage.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:06 PM (vDapD)

259 Thanks all, yes, single. Will have to pack up my house of almost 20 yrs into storage. But I have to make him think this is for my benefit, not his. At this point he may be open to it. I have total support from all our family and friends except my brother who lives with the dirty leg. His words. The other positive is my office is only 5 minutes from dad's house.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:07 PM (a3OL0)

260 'Huh? Forget "every way." I can't think of one single way'

Chastity belt tax.

Posted by: Here come da judge at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (UdKB7)

261
"Truly amazes me how we can't regulate guns but we can find every way to regulate vaginas"

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Huh?

Forget "every way." I can't think of one single way.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (0jtPF)


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Marriage.
Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:06 PM (vDapD)







Isn't that more a case of "Blow Job Control", or possibly "Blow Job Safety"?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (eXA4G)

262 229 So, dad just popped in at 8:30 this am. He leaves me at least one vm everyday. I talk to or see him every day. This am was striking in that he has become such a small shell of himself.

Tonight I called his best buddy, whom he sees a few time a week for happy hour.

I am contemplating approaching dad with moving in with him. No way he would move in here after 45 yrs in the same house.

I think the best approach would be that if I moved in, I could help him and save more money for my retirement. Not that I need to, but he has to be the old school gentleman. I would pay half the bills, which he wont let me do, but so many other things I could pay for that he would be ok with.

I'm torn.

Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?
Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (a3OL0)

My sister did this for my Mom and Dad. Really helped ease their latter days. If you can pitch it as a mutually beneficial thing in a way that preserves his dignity, you should.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (1FhAQ)

263 Oh, this? It's a 1961 Nylon 66 - you've probably never heard of it.

My first non-air gun was a 66. It's in the safe a couple of feet away from me right now. It'll always be a sentimental favorite but functionally it'll never equal a 10/22.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (7oUUT)

264 Can the B-1 hover? I can't imagine why on earth you would put a cannon on it otherwise.

Posted by: Trump Tweets! Live at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (eY/ez)

265 Begone, Very Stable Genius sock!

Posted by: ghost of kari at May 20, 2018 09:09 PM (eY/ez)

266
Can the B-1 hover? I can't imagine why on earth you would put a cannon on it otherwise.
Posted by: Trump Tweets! Live at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (eY/ez)







For the same reason that a dog licks his balls. Because he CAN.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:09 PM (eXA4G)

267 I'm torn.

Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?
Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (a3OL0)

I guess it would depend on how you approach him about it. Having you move back in him could make him feel useful or he could think he's a burden.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 09:09 PM (R5lpX)

268 Huh?
Forget "every way." I can't think of one single way.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:05 PM (0jtPF)


Really? There was even a Prince song about it on he Gold Experience.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 09:09 PM (y87Qq)

269 "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" --General George S. Patton

So- I have been paraphrasing Gen. Patton for years, and didn't know it.

My tuition check to Universdidad de Moron is in the mail, I swear.

Posted by: Miklos, aspiring rapporteur at May 20, 2018 09:10 PM (zCyNd)

270 230 Try 168gr Federal Gold Medal Match ammo inside about 600 yards.
Posted by: Weasel

Thank you, Mr Weasel!
Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 08:59 PM (vnB5M)
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Sure!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:10 PM (MVjcR)

271 " Can the B-1 hover?"

No but it can fly in circles really fast.

Posted by: Here come da judge at May 20, 2018 09:10 PM (UdKB7)

272 Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 09:03 PM

Exactly.

She doesn't seem to have thought this through. Or, indeed, much else....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (UXke/)

273 My grandpa used to shoot pheasants with his shotgun from the hip.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 08:34 PM (MTjB1)]/i]

Me too!

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (sXefu)

274 Isn't that more a case of "Blow Job Control", or possibly "Blow Job Safety"?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:08 PM (eXA4G)



IT HAS BEEN [187] DAYS SINCE OUR LAST BLOW JOB INJURY

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (ga0eq)

275 a few years back, the city of Atascadero up on the Central Coast banned deer hunting, because feels.

a year or so later, the same locals started complaining about all the cars being damaged by hitting seer, and wanted something done about it.

no, they never did figure out the relationship. this is what happens when lieberal assholes move to some place semi-rural.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (QDw86)

276 She added that only "radical empathy" would be a substantial response to the issues plaguing the U.S.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
****************************

Hillary, applying that radical empathy may be more difficult than you perceive.

and

"Waging a war on the rule of law and a free press, de-legitimizing elections, perpetrating shameless corruption, and rejecting the idea that our leaders should be public servants undermines our national unity," she added, ...

Look in the mirror honey.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (8u+2n)

277 Thing that I've been thinking about all day: That email Susan Rice wrote to herself.

Thickening has begun the plot.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 09:12 PM (zuaBT)

278 IT HAS BEEN [187] DAYS SINCE OUR LAST BLOW JOB INJURY

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (ga0eq)


I've tried my best.

Posted by: Billy Jeff at May 20, 2018 09:12 PM (sXefu)

279 Mia could have at least had the decency to dance around naked a little bit while turning in the shotgun.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (MVjcR)

280 dude, Houston are getting spanked tonight

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (W6ceD)

281 IT HAS BEEN [187] DAYS SINCE OUR LAST BLOW JOB INJURY
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (ga0eq)


That's because all the new hires have to watch a day of safety videos during onboarding.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (y87Qq)

282 Listening to me always requires the willing suspension of disbelief.

Posted by: Hillary at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (ux+Lp)

283 de-legitimizing elections, perpetrating shameless corruption

Stop and bask in the glory of unhinged projection. Man, she's nuts.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (zuaBT)

284 Just think, Common Sense Vagina Control would probably have prevented the emergence of David Hogg.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (PWZHw)

285 Having you move back in him could make him feel useful or he could think he's a burden.

Hence, the pretext of me saving more money for retirement. He doesn't need to know it isn't necessary. He would think he was helping.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (a3OL0)

286 Listening to me always requires the willing suspension of disbelief.
Posted by: Hillary at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (ux+Lp)



I hope the award Harvard is giving you is made out of polonium, witch.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (ga0eq)

287 Can the B-1 hover? I can't imagine why on earth you would put a cannon on it otherwise.



It is all done with computers. And satellites, and GPS, and laser target designators. Lotta math involved. Job security for mathematicians.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (roQNm)

288 284 Just think, Common Sense Vagina Control would probably have prevented the emergence of David Hogg.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (PWZHw)

I don't think shoving him back in was an option.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (1FhAQ)

289 IT HAS BEEN [187] DAYS SINCE OUR LAST BLOW JOB INJURY

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 20, 2018 09:11 PM (ga0eq)

They are now part of our "Team Building and Empowerment" program.

Insured by Chubb.

Posted by: Clinton, Globally Initiated at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (zCyNd)

290 we have several LARGE caliber rifles: 300 Weatherby Mag on up to 460 Steyr...

any thoughts/suggestions on what to look for in the way of optics for them, besides the mandatory red dot for up close?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (QDw86)

291 Just think, Common Sense Vagina Control would probably have prevented the emergence of David Hogg.


Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (PWZHw)


That's actually an interesting story, as we were doing anal.

Posted by: Mrs Hogg at May 20, 2018 09:16 PM (sXefu)

292 For some reason he has been harping on what he can help me with. It's bizarre. There can be no confrontation.

Sorry to blather on the gun thread.

I'm out.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (a3OL0)

293 Well since Mia wasn't going to shake it all about for the camera...

https://youtu.be/GffxeZIh-4U

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (PWZHw)

294 It is all done with computers. And satellites, and GPS, and laser target designators. Lotta math involved. Job security for mathematicians.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse - Alt-Ctrl at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (roQNm)

Complicated, but basically 9-9-9.

Posted by: Herman Cain, actual expert in this at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (zCyNd)

295 Well, one of the favorite threads of the week. I'd best get off to do some other productive work. Maybe check eyelids for pinholes.
Big week ahead. And I'll always check in with gray box friends. Manana, Morons!

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (naPOT)

296 "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" --General George S. Patton

IIRC, the first US Army officer recorded as saying that was General Joseph Hooker, prior to or during the Chancellorsville campaign.

Posted by: Gref at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (AMIL/)

297 Super Sonic Spooky II. Yikes.

Gotta laugh at the snowflakes at zerohedge whining about the time wasted on killing machinery.

Boy have they become sjw infected.

It's virulent disease. I'm surprised we've lasted this long.

I'm hoping the sjw's actually let their micro egos overload their hummingbird asses and they decide to get frisky.

They're not going to like the new rules.

They can chase around other leftists and liberals all they want but when they start going after conservs who are fed up they're going to find themselves facing firepower and ruthless attitudes.

This is in reference to the guy who made some comments about spanish being spoken as if it's the primary language of commerce and such and now after being chased out of his job being harassed at his home.

I wouldn't put up with that for one minute and neither would a whole lot of folks.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (3YVDU)

298 I am so wasted.

Posted by: Hills at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (sXefu)

299 292 For some reason he has been harping on what he can help me with. It's bizarre. There can be no confrontation.

Sorry to blather on the gun thread.

I'm out.
Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (a3OL0)

Sounds to me like he's actually asking. You might already have a meeting of the minds. Just go ahead and broach it next you see him.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (1FhAQ)

300 Hence, the pretext of me saving more money for
retirement. He doesn't need to know it isn't necessary. He would think
he was helping.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:14 PM (a3OL0)


---

That's a good idea, too. Carry a notebook and some printouts where you've worked out investment strategies and different potentials for saving money. Ask if you can get his thoughts and some of that dad wisdom on the whole thing, but don't talk to him about being roommates for a few visits.

Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (vDapD)

301 IIRC, the first US Army officer recorded as saying that was General Joseph Hooker, prior to or during the Chancellorsville campaign.

Posted by: Gref at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (AMIL/)

Like.

Posted by: Stormy Daniels at May 20, 2018 09:20 PM (zCyNd)

302 290 we have several LARGE caliber rifles: 300 Weatherby Mag on up to 460 Steyr...

any thoughts/suggestions on what to look for in the way of optics for them, besides the mandatory red dot for up close?
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (QDw86)
--------
Nightforce Optics. Great company and great products. Full disclosure: They're a team sponsor but they make THE optics for competitive shooting. They make a great product and stand behind in 100%. Several of their corporate guys are my friends, and they walk the walk. One was on the team I coached at the Worlds last year

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:21 PM (MVjcR)

303 Ask if you can get his thoughts and some of that dad
wisdom on the whole thing, but don't talk to him about being roommates
for a few visits.


Posted by: Moron Robbie: I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (vDapD)


As long as I can nut, I'm ok with it.

Posted by: Sandra F. - now with more of me to love at May 20, 2018 09:21 PM (sXefu)

304 well, the b1 gunship looks cool but is probably a stupidly expensive way to do the job.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 09:21 PM (MTjB1)

305 I am so wasted.

Posted by: Hills at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (sXefu)

"Y'all, I said I'm DRUNK"

Posted by: Mating call of the Arkansas Hills at May 20, 2018 09:22 PM (zCyNd)

306  So, dad just popped in at 8:30 this am. He leaves me at least one vm everyday. I talk to or see him every day. This am was striking in that he has become such a small shell of himself. 

Tonight I called his best buddy, whom he sees a few time a week for happy hour. 

I am contemplating approaching dad with moving in with him. No way he would move in here after 45 yrs in the same house. 

I think the best approach would be that if I moved in, I could help him and save more money for my retirement. Not that I need to, but he has to be the old school gentleman. I would pay half the bills, which he wont let me do, but so many other things I could pay for that he would be ok with. 

I'm torn. 

Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (a3OL0)

------------

I did a 2 year career detour to care for my Mom in Chicago when she got older and sick. Never regretted it for a second.

I had been living in Atlanta, and am back there now. Really got to know her as a grownup over that period.

She was a very dryly funny woman, right up until the moment of her death.

I would not trade that time for anything. And, yes, I did pay the utilities because the house was paid for.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at May 20, 2018 09:22 PM (I16G8)

307 I am contemplating approaching dad with moving in with him. No way he would move in here after 45 yrs in the same house.

We've had my mother (now 92 yo) living with us for about two years now since the Alzheimer's got to where just staying with her overnight wasn't enough. It has been an added expense and prevents us from doing things we might otherwise have done like relocating for a job. But it may be the most important thing we've ever done other than raising our own kids. "Honor your father and mother that your days may be long in the land that the Lord has given you."

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at May 20, 2018 09:22 PM (7oUUT)

308 well, the b1 gunship looks cool but is probably a stupidly expensive way to do the job.

This.

Rail guns. Now. Everywhere. The Navy is driving me a little nuts with the foot dragging.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 09:23 PM (zuaBT)

309 Okey dokey. Past my bedtime. 'Night everyone.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 09:26 PM (MVjcR)

310 That's a good idea, too. Carry a notebook and some printouts where you've worked out investment strategies and different potentials for saving money. Ask if you can get his thoughts and some of that dad wisdom on the whole thing, but don't talk to him about being roommates for a few visits.


He and mom made great investments years ago. Now he cant remember who mows his lawn much less investments. It took me hours and almost a month to recreate tax documents for the CPA this spring.

He did give me great advise a few years back.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:27 PM (a3OL0)

311 Took my brand new PSA AR-10 out to the range this weekend. Been nearly a decade since I shot any long rifle,, but this one was so sweet to me I zeroed it in 12 rounds. #10-12 were a three inch group at 100 yards. I know that some of you are better, but I'm happy with a perishable skill that's a decade old and a three in shot group on iron sites with a new rifle in 12 rounds.

Posted by: BifBewalskiBot at May 20, 2018 09:27 PM (8ZeGS)

312 I can't imagine why on earth you would put a cannon on [B1] otherwise.
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Bird control.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 09:27 PM (Evws/)

313
Rail guns. Now. Everywhere. The Navy is driving me a little nuts with the foot dragging.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)


What about transporters and photon torpedoes?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 09:28 PM (IqV8l)

314 Rapid Fire. Judas Priest. British Steel.

One of the best albums for a metal guitar player to earn his chops. Fucking love this one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 09:28 PM (Mkuv2)

315 Bird control.

Pteranodon control.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 20, 2018 09:29 PM (zuaBT)

316 "Honor your father and mother that your days may be long in the land that the Lord has given you."

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg's phone at May 20, 2018 09:22 PM (7oUUT)


And that is the bottom line. Bless you.

Thy Will be done.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:29 PM (a3OL0)

317 This.

Rail guns. Now. Everywhere. The Navy is driving me a little nuts with the foot dragging.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May




yep. You should be heartened to know the Army is working on one of its own.

https://tinyurl.com/ybl98pxp



kind of makes sense since the Army has had so much success with precision artillery fires since 2001, they are more likely to appreciate the value of rail guns.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 09:29 PM (MTjB1)

318 Ideas, feedback, or criticisms?

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 08:58 PM (a3OL0)

I did that with my father for about two years, during his final illness.

If you don't who will? A man who has always been stubbornly independent and successful and successfully independent ( my father was an orphan boy who done good) does not yield much, or easily.

But it comes. Not easy for anyone, but necessity is sometimes the mother of cooperation.

Posted by: Miklos at May 20, 2018 09:30 PM (zCyNd)

319 Infidel, the fact that his house is 5 min from your office is a good excuse for you to move in, imo.

Tell him that the convenience of less time in traffic is priceless.

Do either of you have pets? Having an extra human keeping a pet company is another good excuse.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:32 PM (hMwEB)

320 Rapid Fire. Judas Priest. British Steel.



One of the best albums for a metal guitar player to earn his chops. Fucking love this one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 09:28 PM (Mkuv2)


Saw them in DC on their Firepower tour. They rocked!

Posted by: M3tal H3ad at May 20, 2018 09:33 PM (sXefu)

321 Well, it's off to rest up for my golf game tomorrow morning. Then complete some more items on my Honey Do list.

Go up to the new property and do some clean up, then perhaps go to the local gun range two miles from our new property.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at May 20, 2018 09:34 PM (R5lpX)

322 re: big city schools and cops WAY up the thread:

Seems I read somewhere that the the LA unified school district PD was one of the largest police departments in the US, if not the largest.

Posted by: Gooshy at May 20, 2018 09:35 PM (55WFg)

323 292 For some reason he has been harping on what he can help me with. It's bizarre.....
Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (a3OL0)
--------------------------
Not the least bit bizarre.
He doesn't want to be a burden and wants to believe he can still help you out.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:36 PM (0jtPF)

324 WTF is radical empathy?

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 20, 2018 09:38 PM (xFZUI)

325 Since 2016 Obamanation's Campaign Fund paid .
$972,000 to a law firm that sent the money to Fusion GPS.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 09:38 PM (8u+2n)

326 Infidel, proceed with caution. The stress of caring for a parent or, in my case, a spouse in decline can be a killer. After my late wife passed I spoke to her cousin who is a home care nurse. She told me that in her experience it is usually not the patient but the caregiver who dies from stress. Unending 24/7/365 stress can drag you down like nothing else I have ever experienced.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 09:39 PM (UI5zK)

327 324 WTF is radical empathy?
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 20, 2018 09:38 PM (xFZUI)

I think it's like a crazy girlfriend, only no sex.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 09:40 PM (1FhAQ)

328 Ethnic Arab pr0n star turns over to Austin, TX PD her shotgun...
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79544
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM


That's a shotgun worth $1500, according to her.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 09:40 PM (DMUuz)

329 Have a great night everyone.

May your dreams be serene.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 20, 2018 09:41 PM (hyuyC)

330 324
WTF is radical empathy?

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 20, 2018 09:38 PM (xFZUI)

I once came to a pic of Soledad O'Brien.

Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at May 20, 2018 09:41 PM (sXefu)

331 Ethnic Arab pr0n star turns over to Austin, TX PD her shotgun...
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=79544
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at May 20, 2018 08:52 PM

That's a shotgun worth $1500, according to her.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May




or five days pay spent shooting ganganal.

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 09:43 PM (MTjB1)

332

Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) said school shootings happen because President Donald Trump and the Republicans "don't have the guts to stand up" to the National Rifle Association.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 09:43 PM (IqV8l)

333
296 "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" --General George S. Patton

IIRC, the first US Army officer recorded as saying that was General Joseph Hooker, prior to or during the Chancellorsville campaign.
Posted by: Gref at May 20, 2018 09:18 PM (AMIL/)







I take it that was BEFORE Lee spanked his ass at Chancellorsville.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2018 09:43 PM (eXA4G)

334 I think we keep trying to go 'small and fast', which does do some interesting things on impact. But I think there's a point of diminishing effectiveness vs wind/barriers/motivated goblins.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards We Didn't Start the Beaver at May 20, 2018 08:29 PM (xJa6I) fnord (xJa6I)


Got sucked away on a semi-emergency.

Precision, light weight, accurate follow-ups.

There's a reason *EVERYONE* has gone the other direction.

Even the big heavy rounds are slim spitzers, because range.

People still use big fat heavy rounds for short/medium range big game, where you need a lot of mass and penetration, and aren't in a hurry.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 09:44 PM (FDnQi)

335 vm, funny, he mentioned pets this am. He always had pets as a kid, and we did as kids. He's not a fan. I have realized he uses the closet bathroom he has never used cause it's closer. Can't get him to go for walks like he used to. I think if I got a little cutie dog he would secretly love it.

His friend and my brother don't seem to know him as well as I. I spend a lot of time with him.

I've been his girl for over 29 or so years.

Ill stop.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:44 PM (a3OL0)

336 Say, when was the last time we had any Joy, not to mention Triggly or Lena on the ONT?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 09:45 PM (DMUuz)

337 Dang, missed the thread. Shootin' match this morning, somewhat disappointed in my performance with the Garand. Actually practiced a bit with, and zeroed in the sights (for elevation/clicks) just this past week. Still, on the 100- and 175-yd plates, took me a few shots and some spotting help to get the elevation right.


But the BOOM is always satisfying. And since I was almost the only non-pea shooter there (one other guy had an M1A), everyone was entertained by the sound and fury.


Shotgun stuff was fine, but shotgun shooting is a reloading contest, not a shooting contest.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 20, 2018 09:45 PM (QDnY+)

338 WTF is radical empathy?
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 20, 2018 09:38 PM (xFZUI)

I think it's like a crazy girlfriend, only no sex.

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 09:40 PM (1FhAQ)
*************************


More like being locked in a boxcar until you stop Jonesing on that libertarian / God, guns, and freedom crap.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 09:45 PM (8u+2n)

339 Unending 24/7/365 stress can drag you down like nothing else I have ever experienced.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 09:39 PM (UI5zK)

True. It can be extremely trying. Stubbornness and filial obligation worked for me. And prayer.

Not an obligation to be lightly undertaken, and will impact your work. (It will) Now I have to do it again with my mother.

Also that's when I first arrived here, and am still surprised that my silly is tolerated.

Really-in tough times, a few hours of Hordist distraction helps.

Posted by: Miklos at May 20, 2018 09:46 PM (zCyNd)

340 Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Sen. Bernie
Sanders (I-VT) said school shootings happen because President Donald
Trump and the Republicans "don't have the guts to stand up" to the
National Rifle Association.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 09:43 PM (IqV8l)


Also, I'd like to point out that I'd never stand up to Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Bernie at May 20, 2018 09:46 PM (sXefu)

341 324 WTF is radical empathy?
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 20, 2018 09:38 PM (xFZUI)

Virtue signaling.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 20, 2018 09:46 PM (Dp6qK)

342 or five days pay spent shooting ganganal.
Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 09:43 PM (MTjB1)


I spent way too long staring at this post wondering why the hell anybody would shoot up galangal.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 09:46 PM (y87Qq)

343 Our ruling class is pretty funny in its obsession with awards. They give each other so many!
And they are all self-referential and meaningless.
You get one just for BEING, not for DOING anything specific.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:47 PM (0jtPF)

344 You get an award, and you get an award, and you ... wait a minute, you're a conservative! What are you trying to pull here anyway. No awards for you.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 09:49 PM (UI5zK)

345 Ordered 3 "rode hard and put away wet" antique pieces of history for projects guns.

All Chilean 1895 Mausers in 7 mm.
1 cavalry carbine (missing rear sight slider),
1 short rifle (bent bolt)
1 long rifle (straight bolt) missing rear sight slider, floor plate, follower and magazine spring.

I guess they will go in the "to do" pile with the 3 CHiang Kai Shek Chinese Mausers.

These darn projects are piling up.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 20, 2018 09:50 PM (cCxiu)

346 If you are caring for a sick/aging family member you should definitely line up "assistants" - a homecare nurse, or even just a "sitter" (depending on their needs), and your own support group to talk to.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:50 PM (hMwEB)

347 292 For some reason he has been harping on what he can help me with. It's bizarre.....
Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (a3OL0)

Let him help, with caveats, of course. No idea what those caveats would entail.

My dad suffers from non-Alzheimer's dementia. He has not lost us, his family--so to speak--but he can no longer drive, play the piano or the guitar, read books, or sign his name.

But he loves having something to do, even if it's blowing leaves off the lawn.

Bottom line: let your dad be your dad.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 09:50 PM (Mkuv2)

348 https://achieve.lausd.net/domain/32

LAUSD police web page "about", for those interested.

not funny true story: the idiots voted for another ginormous bond issue, because "overcrowded schools"...

and now the enrollment rate is dropping faster than Shrillery lunging for a bribe.

Fuck this state.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 09:51 PM (QDw86)

349 You get one just for BEING, not for DOING anything specific.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:47 PM (0jtPF)

The Horde should award lots of awards. To each other.

Nominations for awards?

I think I already know who wins the Ficus d'Or.

Posted by: Miklos, winner of Attendee Award at May 20, 2018 09:51 PM (zCyNd)

350 Joy, Triggly, and Lena walk into a bar...

Posted by: Jay at May 20, 2018 09:51 PM (ux+Lp)

351 ...and the bartender barfs all over the bar.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 09:52 PM (UI5zK)

352 Infidel, I didn't realize you are an 'ette.
For some reason always assumed you are a 'ron.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:52 PM (hMwEB)

353 Ordered 3 "rode hard and put away wet" antique pieces of history for projects guns.

All Chilean 1895 Mausers in 7 mm.
1 cavalry carbine (missing rear sight slider),
1 short rifle (bent bolt)
1 long rifle (straight bolt) missing rear sight slider, floor plate, follower and magazine spring.

I guess they will go in the "to do" pile with the 3 CHiang Kai Shek Chinese Mausers.

These darn projects are piling up.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at May




could have been a mia k movie

Posted by: yankeefifth at May 20, 2018 09:53 PM (MTjB1)

354 WTF is radical empathy?
------
When you agree with Che over gays?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 09:53 PM (Evws/)

355 We have the threadwinner award. Sure it's just recycled bits but it's the thought that counts.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 09:53 PM (UdKB7)

356 Anyone can be an Infidel. All it takes is never to say allahu akbar three times.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 09:53 PM (UI5zK)

357 Infidel, I didn't realize you are an 'ette.
For some reason always assumed you are a 'ron.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:52 PM (hMwEB)

Ronettes rock.

Posted by: Phil "Miklos" Spector at May 20, 2018 09:53 PM (zCyNd)

358 The Barrel High Dive Award

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:55 PM (hMwEB)

359 350 Joy, Triggly, and Lena walk into a bar...
Posted by: Jay at May 20, 2018 09:51 PM (ux+Lp)

...several people following them slip in the slime-trail, call Lionel Hutz, esq.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 09:55 PM (Mkuv2)

360 Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 09:29 PM (a3OL0)

My father took care of his mother for as long as he could. When she had to go into the nursing home, they eventually took her house. He knew this would happen, and had arranged to move in with me. It lasted about 10 weeks. It was always supposed to be temporary until he found a "suitable" place, but he never seemed too interested in finding a place that fit the requirements. I chaffed under it, and finally he found a place. Ten years later, he died, and I wish like hell I had been more patient. I miss him terribly. Do it, if you can work it out.

Posted by: Clifford Skridlow at May 20, 2018 09:56 PM (C1NyB)

361 I hear that train a' comin'
It's rollin' round the bend
And I ain't seen no ONT
They doin' Valu-Rite gin

Posted by: Miklos, the man in back at May 20, 2018 09:57 PM (zCyNd)

362 The Barrel High Dive Award
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:55 PM (hMwEB)


Didn't someone win the Single-thread Barrel Trifecta for copying the entire thread into a comment three times?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 09:58 PM (y87Qq)

363 The Horde should award lots of awards. To each other.

Nominations for awards?

I think I already know who wins the Ficus d'Or.
Posted by: Miklos, winner of Attendee Award at May 20, 2018 09:51 PM (zCyNd)
-----------------------------------------
Ooooh. Ooooh.
Can I be Latina of the Year?
No, no! Make that a Lifetime Achievement Award!
Yes! "Achievement!"

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 09:58 PM (0jtPF)

364 Has the ONT been cancelled? Sad. What we gonna do wit'out a ONT? *strums melancholy notes on banjo*

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 09:59 PM (UI5zK)

365 Just picked up an Arisaka Type 38 in 6.5mm this morning. Tanked it and now no rust. Bore very shootable. Woodwork will respond to a scrub and a wax and that will be $300 well spent.

Posted by: NZFrank withanM2 at May 20, 2018 10:01 PM (bgJ0E)

366 ONT is up.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 20, 2018 10:02 PM (7oUUT)

367 *ONT is NOOD!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 10:02 PM (Ckg4U)

368 Infidel, I didn't realize you are an 'ette.
For some reason always assumed you are a 'ron.

Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at May 20, 2018 09:52 PM (hMwEB)


LOL, lemme see, I think WDS, cheri, ruthless, bth among others can confirm.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 10:03 PM (a3OL0)

369 Hooray for ONT! I knew we could count on the Cobs -- they never fail us.

Posted by: Ruthless at May 20, 2018 10:04 PM (UI5zK)

370 @282but the movie ne'er did get us to that and thus weren't only deplorables but failed to get the joke. That must be it. Lays in state. Gah!

Burn it all down, dear President Trump.
I think we've all tried to political temperature take of some who we like, etc. but need to know. Oy! Just back away. I do that. I delve a bit, but can't get to any of the 'why' from any of these folks? Scary to me.

President Donald J. Trump > President Ronald Reaganfor certain items (and values of greater than) but surely not the recalibration, that of values, common sense, et al, of which I am not part.
I've had a good sense of me for at least 29 years. Maybe that's more than I deserve. I'm growing disinterested in 'solving' more software problems. The toaster sanction.
Whatever. I'll shaddup now.


Posted by: micky at May 20, 2018 10:04 PM (dF9Lb)

371 A couple or so weeks ago I attended a CO Morondevouz. Met some fine 'rons and 'ettes. My bride was surprised about the number of 'ettes. I told her the 'ettes are what makes this weird fucking forum work.


Oh, and Ace, of course...


*cough*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (Mkuv2)

372 Having a Gay Jewish Liberal defend the RIGHT??? Really???

Posted by: Don Quixote at May 20, 2018 08:24 PM (NgKpN)


It wasn't a left-right debate, it was supposed to be a PC debate but the "pro PC" side just reduced it to a series of ad hominem attacks (and dishonest ones) on Petersion, why BTW is not right wing either, he's "center left" but thinks the far left has way too much power over the left.

So the entire group was left-wingers, it's just that two of them were shits.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:05 PM (FDnQi)

373 As always, timing.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 20, 2018 10:06 PM (FDnQi)

374 To any moron here; You can shoot left handed rifle/shotgun. I have been cursed with a bad right eye so I shoot left handed, even though I'm a righty. It can be done if you practice practice practice.

Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 20, 2018 10:07 PM (0OmEj)

375 To any moron here; You can shoot left handed rifle/shotgun. I have been cursed with a bad right eye so I shoot left handed, even though I'm a righty. It can be done if you practice practice practice.
Posted by: USNtakim prfoundly deplorable! at May 20, 2018 10:07 PM (0OmEj)

I'm the other way around. Southpaw what shoots righty. need to reverse that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Fed Up at May 20, 2018 10:09 PM (Mkuv2)

376 144, RE: Winchester 1894 in .357/38.

Recoil in 357 is NBD, in 38 SPL its like a 22lr. My 1894 in either caliber is accurate beyond my eyesight/skill. Great short barreled carbine that loaded with 10 357 180 grain semi jacketed flat points is a drop dead killer. Nothing beyond possibly an elephant or blue whale walkd or swims away from that bullet.

Posted by: colfax mingo at May 20, 2018 10:34 PM (FoFVZ)

377 I don't know which one is more annoying: Camera Hogg (who alternately looks like Patrick Bateman from American Psycho and a transgender porn star) or Negasonic Teenage Dickhead. Fortunately I think the end of their 15 minutes is fast approaching for both of them.

Posted by: David Gillies at May 20, 2018 10:58 PM (tjHrt)

Food Thread: Sheep, Organic Chemistry And Marbles

rack-of-lamb.jpg

Herb-crusted rack of lamb is one of those foods that I will eat whenever I can, but it is ridiculously expensive in restaurants, and so easy to make at home that I rarely (read: never) order it anymore. I saw it on the menu last night at a French restaurant in Manhattan. It was something like $48, which is just silly. I can go to Costco and buy excellent quality Australian lamb and make enough for six people for $48.

Sear the rack. Coat it with an herb mixture. Roast in a medium oven with a temperature probe set to your preferred doneness.

See? I told you it was easy. Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup.

******

This looks interesting, and he isn't charging an obscene amount of money for his whiskey. It's about $50 at discount, which is a reasonable price for an interesting experiment.
20-Year-Old Whiskey in 6 Days: Will This Self-Taught Chemist Upend the Liquor Industry?
Why does a well-aged glass of smokey whiskey taste so good? It's all about the chemistry of sitting in a barrel for decades. "The polymer structures make the wood slowly fall apart," says Bryan Davis, a pioneering distiller who learned the science of liquor production by watching MIT classes on YouTube. "They shed all of these precursor chemicals that turn into different stuff that tastes really good." This time-consuming process is the reason distillers have to charge five figures for a top-shelf bottle.
I am however deeply suspicious of his explanation of the chemistry behind the transformation from raw whiskey to finished product. I think that there are too many variables for him to proclaim with any scientific confidence that he knows what's going on in his reaction vessels. Video lectures does not an organic chemistry expert make!

Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?

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These kinds of articles are ubiquitous. Most are just click-bait, but one can find a few valuable nuggets. This one has a couple that are good ideas. The tomato-cutting hack is a good one. 20 Cheap Kitchen Hacks That Will Make You Master of Your Domain But mostly when I see these hacks I think, "Yeah, but there are a bunch of different ways to achieve the same result." I think most people find ways to streamline the few chores in the kitchen that are truly irritating or unpleasant to do, and simply manage the rest as part of the cooking process. Personally, I don't mind cutting grape tomatoes one by one. I rarely have to cut more than a cup or so of them, and unless I am in a big rush, the simple and satisfying process of using the correct tool (a sharp serrated blade) is part of the simple pleasure of cooking.
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Yeah....no.
Thermal Shock Porterhouse Steak
I really, really enjoy Alton Brown, but sometimes he gets too wrapped up in fine-tuning technique, and loses sight of the fact that changing technique is not always a good thing. Another way to make a porterhouse is to cook it the identical way Brown does in this recipe, only easier: in a cast-iron pan. You know, how cooks have been doing it for years and years, with marvelous results.
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I may have mentioned once or twice or 800 times that "fat is flavor." And that's why beautifully marbled prime beef is so good, and often prohibitively expensive for non trust-fund folk. It costs lots of money to fatten cattle, and only a small percentage of them turn out to be well-marbled enough to be graded as prime beef. But there are huge variations in that grade, and sometimes we at the retail end of the food chain get beef that is the equal of the best and most expensive stuff that is usually found only at great steakhouses and obscenely expensive boutique butchers.

marbled NY Strip.jpg

A few weeks ago I wandered past the butcher counter at my local supermarket and discovered an entire short loin of beef that, believe it or not, was even more beautifully marbled than the glorious stuff in the photo! I was a fool, and only got two steaks, which were perhaps the best beef I have ever eaten.

What's my point, besides that I was a idiot for not buying the whole thing? Use your eyes when you are shopping for meat. It is entirely possible that your local market's huge sale on steaks will include a few that are significantly better than the rest. Be particular...be picky...be a bit of a jerk if necessary. Poke through all of the packages. Ask to see the loin underneath the one on display. You will eventually get lucky and find a great steak at a manageable price. And this is true of pork too! For chicken? I have no idea. Is there some visible difference between good and great chicken?

Beuller?

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The Last Word is a cocktail, and until this morning I had never heard of it. It seems like it would be quite good, and I love the name...it is apropos for The Horde.
******

I have been revisiting some of my well-used recipes, ones that I have posted here; sometimes more than once! So I will be, for the near future, a bit more selective in what I post as the recipe of the week, and sometimes, like today, skip it.
******

Food and cooking tips, good mustard, Oakland style BBQ sauce, gefilte fish replacements, thick and fluffy pita and Browning Hi Powers: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Recipes for low-carb Pop-Tarts will be deleted with extreme prejudice.

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1 I have a biscuit recipe for everyone. Back in a minute.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 03:54 PM (VgKNm)

2 >Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup.
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I use a mixture of A1 and Heinz 57.

Posted by: pogomip at May 20, 2018 03:54 PM (vnB5M)

3 I don't know; I think The First Word seems like a more appropriate title for the Horde.

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (oMtOd)

4 Or maybe The Bad Word, a link to which you can find at The Last Word link.

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (oMtOd)

5 See? I told you it was easy. Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup.

++++

French Toast and syrup belong together like twins separated at birth. It's wrong not to reunite them.

But, mint jelly on lamb is too sweet. Better: mint sauce.

https://www.marthastewart.com/344484/fresh-mint-sauce

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (pvjTE)

6 Lamb makes me ill but I love a good gyro.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 20, 2018 03:58 PM (EZebt)

7 I may have mentioned once or twice or 800 times that "fat is flavor."
And that's why beautifully marbled prime beef is so good, and often
prohibitively expensive for non trust-fund folk.

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I remember reading an interview with an old black guy Southern chef from thirty or forty years ago who said that if you don't get a bit of an upset stomach from all the fat, the steak didn't taste as good as it should've. That has stuck with me ever since.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 03:59 PM (VgKNm)

8 This time-consuming process is the reason distillers have to charge five figures for a top-shelf bottle.

Yeah, they don't have to, they just can. That's why scotch prices have skyrocketed recently.

Posted by: pep at May 20, 2018 03:59 PM (LAe3v)

9
Lamb makes me ill but I love a good gyro.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 20, 2018 03:58 PM (EZebt)

Doesn't that have lamb in it?

And...is The Tadich Grill still alive and kicking? And has it decayed along with the rest of the city?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 03:59 PM (wYseH)

10 I told you it was easy. Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup.


=

serving lamb with mint is a culinary mistake, serving French Toast with salt is a crime

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 04:00 PM (/U6eQ)

11 I like mutton better, preferably wild Colorado mutton. Lamb is not a favorite. Perhaps because I set the oven on fire with one time.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:00 PM (zLDYs)

12
The Last Word is a cocktail, and until this morning I had never heard of it. It seems like it would be quite good, and I love the name...it is apropos for The Horde.
Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM


The recipe reminds a bit of a Gimlet: gin + Rose's sweetened lime juice

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 20, 2018 04:00 PM (5Yee7)

13 >>>Sear the rack. Coat it with an herb mixture.

Yeah but you've still got to french it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 04:02 PM (/qEW2)

14
Hadrian Meat Axiom No. 1: fat is delicious.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:03 PM (2YTv9)

15 "20 yeat old whiskey in 6 days"

Apostate!!

I'm drinking a PVW 20 after coming back from the range. No way that could be compared to some chemical mix.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 04:03 PM (J5Nd5)

16 The best part about a Last Word? (And, why it's a Horde favorite?)

"There will be no math."

It's an "equal parts" drink. Juice a lime. Notice how much juice there is. Use that much of the other 3 liquors.

No two-thirds-of-an-ounce or square-root-of-three jiggers of anything.

It's a drink you can mix right even if you're on your fourth one.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 04:03 PM (JGBbg)

17 Lamb, when cooked correctly, is a marvelous thing.

Tonight I be making eye of round, sauteed spinach and baked tater.

Martinis of course, one olive.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 04:04 PM (EoRCO)

18
Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?

Mine is in inorganic chemistry. Braise your chicken with titanium tetrachloride before cooking.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:04 PM (2YTv9)

19 Yeah but you've still got to french it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 04:02 PM (/qEW2)

NO!

Have you not been paying attention?

The meat on the bones is marvelous; fatty and unctuous and delicious.

Frenching anything (culinarily) is a no-no.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:04 PM (wYseH)

20 "Is there some visible difference between good and great chicken?"

Great chicken has a golden crispy crust.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 04:05 PM (UdKB7)

21 Axiom No. 1: fat is delicious.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:03 PM (2YTv9)

Axiom No. 2: See Axiom No. 1

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (wYseH)

22 Lamb chops bone in on the grill. Delicious with a light Texas BBQ rub.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (J5Nd5)

23 Years ago when I was a wee lass my dad brought a lamb to my grandmom's house. I was so thrilled to see the baby sheep, and could hear it bleating from its enclosure.

A few days later I went to visit her but heard no sounds coming from her holding cell. Actually it turned out she was on Death Row because daddy had brought her to grandmom's house to be the main course for Easter dinner.

Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (kD8Fh)

24 Related to the post below: Do we need to find the perfect popcorn accompaniment for the coming "Trumpening" (as indicated by his recent tweets)???

Maybe this? https://tinyurl.com/pt4qy7s


Or maybe.....caramel popcorn balls, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (W+vEI)

25 19
Yeah but you've still got to french it
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 04:02 PM (/qEW2)

NO!



Leg successfully pulled.

Posted by: pep at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (LAe3v)

26 The area where my parents were born is famous for its lamb on a spit, called "arrosticini".

They were delicious when I used to eat them, however the memory of the Death Row lamb haunts me still and I no longer touch the stuff.

Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:07 PM (kD8Fh)

27 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 03:59 PM (wYseH)

Yes, I don't always eat what's best for me. There's a Greek place in Inner Sunset that does a good chicken gyro.

Yes, still there, but I haven't been in 15 years. It's probably covered in excrement like everything...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 20, 2018 04:07 PM (EZebt)

28 For quite a few years now I've done most meats, steaks, ribs, chops, chicken, lamb, using sous vide. Also since finding a local butcher who sells whole primals I've taken to buying them and cleaning them up and cutting them as I want. So I look online to see how others, pros, cut up various primals.

Last winter I got a good deal on Top Sirloin primals and got some and looked for how to prepare them. This video (I'm just putting the title and name because I want to put a Youtube link later and at times comments can't have two links) "How to cut a sirloin into steaks" by William McCann.

In it he shows how there is one muscle, a triangular shaped cap called "coulotte", that should be removed first and steaked out separately as the grain in it runs opposite of the rest of the sirloin. I went online to find out how to sous vide this cut and found this delightful channel.

http://tinyurl.com/yb4of45w

"Sous Vide Everything"

It is done by a Brazilian guy living in south Florida. The Brazilian name for that coulotte steak is "Picanha." The videos are informative but even more they are fun, and funny too. And that's what I wanted to share.

Posted by: geoffb at May 20, 2018 04:07 PM (zOpu5)

29 Ate herb-encrusted lamb last night (at a restaurant) and it was spectacular.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:07 PM (rBnYq)

30 A few days later I went to visit her but heard no sounds coming from her holding cell. Actually it turned out she was on Death Row because daddy had brought her to grandmom's house to be the main course for Easter dinner.
Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (kD8Fh)
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See, this is why I would make a lousy farmer's wife. I just couldn't bear this.

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (oMtOd)

31 When Costco has lamb I often buy it and am never disappointed. Theirs is better than Whole Wallet's.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (rBnYq)

32 Hadria the 7th @ 14--Fat is delicious.I NEVER trim cooked fat off anything. Prime rib? Bacon? Porkchop? Eat the whole thing. Well, noi bones, of course. I don't eat much chicken, but will attest that chicken soup can't be made without the fat.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (zLDYs)

33 I'm going to try my first spatchcock/butterfly chicken tonight. With butter, garlic and lemon. Any tips for a newbie?

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (a3OL0)

34 Check it out, souped up limo:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcKXP3lkmJw


Not off topic. Soup.

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (+lOpA)

35 I've eaten lots of stuffed grape leaves. No runs for me.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (/qEW2)

36 arrosticini:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8ze2wh8

Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (kD8Fh)

37 Is there some visible difference between good and great chicken?

Good chicken looks like boneless, skinless chicken breasts, and great chicken looks like anything else?

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (JGBbg)

38 31
When Costco has lamb I often buy it and am never disappointed.


Don't they always have lamb?

Posted by: pep at May 20, 2018 04:10 PM (LAe3v)

39
Two Costco lamb racks, sprinkle garlic and herbes de Provence, cook at 350F for 1 hour. Comes with Her Majesty's Seal of Approval.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:10 PM (2YTv9)

40 Kallisto @ 26--I though the lambs were silent?

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (zLDYs)

41 See, this is why I would make a lousy farmer's wife. I just couldn't bear this.



Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (oMtOd)


The first time I went to visit the folks in Italy, I had to get used to the animal umm, "scents", because at the time they still had a couple cows housed in the ground floor beneath the living quarters.

One morning I walked down to my aunt's house and the women were all busy cooking in the kitchen. There was this bigass stockpot with a cover on it, on the fire.

I took a peek and almost lost my lunch. It was some freakin' animal head with the damn deadeye staring up at me.

Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (kD8Fh)

42 What the hell is mint jelly?
Chop up a handful of mint leaves.
Crush with a little sugar.
Add just enough hot water to dissolve the sugar residue and vinegar to balance the taste.
Mint sauce.

Posted by: lotocoti at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (s/OOz)

43 Made lamb curry for Mom for Muthah's Day. A boneless leg o' lamb was expensive but still cheaper than two entrees at a nice restaurant. Made stock from the bits I trimmed off and used it in lamb barley soup.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (qJtVm)

44 A couple of years back a friend here in town built himself an Argentine grill/oven, using indirect heat to slow cook meats. It does wonderful things for beef, though you do need a steamship roast to get the full effect.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:12 PM (rBnYq)

45 I am however deeply suspicious of his explanation of the chemistry
behind the transformation from raw whiskey to finished product. I think
that there are too many variables for him to proclaim with any
scientific confidence that he knows what's going on in his reaction
vessels. Video lectures does not an organic chemistry expert make!
Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?


There is a local guy who is working on the theory that the interaction of the raw whiskey or brandy with the wood is what is doing the maturing of the raw spirits into fine aged liquors. He is looking into re-manufacturing wood casks by re shaving the staves and rebuilding the casks so they hold 1/3 or 1/2 as originally so more liquor in percentage can be in contact with the wood.
He was also talking about shifting the barrels during the aging to increase the turn over of the raw spirits.

Never knew what he has done about that.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 04:12 PM (2K6fY)

46 Anyway after that I just stuck to eating pasta and whatever the aunties grew out of the ground.

Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:13 PM (kD8Fh)

47 ..."See? I told you it was easy. Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup."

The first half of this sentence is Gospel. The second half is Rubbish.

I enjoy my custard pastries in-and-of-themselves as much as the next guy. I also abhor maple-flavored anything, minus good, pure syrup.

I'll meet you halfway and accept powdered sugar and strawberries as a reasonable substitute.

Mint Jelly should be nuked from orbit. It is a vile abomination upon the Only Two Jams and Jellies that exist in My World.

There is strawberry and there is grape. Those are the only two jellies that exist, period.

My ignorance knows no bounds and I will come to fisticuffs over it.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at May 20, 2018 04:13 PM (Ckg4U)

48 Costco's pre-packaged chicken breasts and tenders are hard to beat. They come with two (three small sometimes) breasts per pouch, and six pouches per "pack." I think they're better than Tyson and some big names.

Costco's microwave popcorn is also the only kind I buy anymore.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:13 PM (VgKNm)

49 I have a good friend, a rock rib conservative, who is a catlle and sheep rancher in Montana.

They have an up hill fight competing with the Aussie and Kiwi's on lamb prices because there governments in effect subsidize that industry.

I only buy lamb if it is from the USA.

Consider helping our own first.

Thanks

Posted by: Charles Martel at May 20, 2018 04:13 PM (gp7Z8)

50 You beef and bourbon twinks ( is there such a thing?) are chapping my ass! Don't make me come over there and put a boot in your asses!

Posted by: Fritz at May 20, 2018 04:14 PM (J7XgW)

51 A couple of years back a friend here in town built
himself an Argentine grill/oven, using indirect heat to slow cook meats.
It does wonderful things for beef, though you do need a steamship roast
to get the full effect.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:12 PM (rBnYq)


A fogon de lena. I am looking into making one of those. What did he build the stove out of? I am looking at the drum salvaged out of a clothes dryer, but I have seen them made with half a 55 gal drum.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 04:14 PM (2K6fY)

52 I find there's more flavor in the more expensive chicken. I don't buy organics though. I just want something that lived a bit longer than the chickens for the 89 cent hind quarters.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 20, 2018 04:14 PM (Lqy/e)

53 I age my moonshine for 4-6 days with charred Apple wood it comes out like an aged whiskey that even snobs day is pretty good.

Traditional alcohol is aged on white oak because the closed cellular structure of white oak made the best non leaking barrels.

The applewood had an open cell structure still I get a good transfer in an out of the wood.


Posted by: Thesgm at May 20, 2018 04:15 PM (Njq1s)

54 If you can sell me a whiskey or scotch or bourbon or what-not that has 95% of the flavor but none of the prestige at 1/3rd of the cost, sign me up. I'll pour that sucker into another bottle to satisfy my snooty friends (ha - not really) and call it a day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:15 PM (VgKNm)

55
Fat is delicious. I NEVER trim cooked fat off anything. Prime rib? Bacon? Porkchop? Eat the whole thing. Well, noi bones, of course. I don't eat much chicken, but will attest that chicken soup can't be made without the fat.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (zLDYs)


Early in our long and otherwise happy marriage, I caught Her Majesty cheating on me by trimming the fat off a roast to give to the dogs. I now cook all beef, pork, lamb and chicken.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:15 PM (YJvTN)

56 As beef prices have gone up, I find myself buying more and more lamb.

It has opened up a whole new world of flavor and cuisine. Lamb stew, grilled lamb, baked lamb -- makes me forget about beef sometimes.

While everyone looks to the Greeks for lamb recipes, I would encourage you to look into the Lebanese recipes as well. They are very creative and adventurous.

Now, pass the ouzo.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 04:16 PM (ZSwEo)

57 I took a peek and almost lost my lunch. It was some freakin' animal head with the damn deadeye staring up at me.
Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (kD8Fh)
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Nope nope nope nope nopity nopity nope.

Nope.

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:17 PM (oMtOd)

58 'A fogon de lena'

Not gonna do it, not gonna do it...

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 04:17 PM (UdKB7)

59 I took a peek and almost lost my lunch. It was some freakin' animal head with the damn deadeye staring up at me.

Posted by: kallisto at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (kD8Fh)


Hence the joke about the kid going down to the butcher and saying, "Mum says to buy a sheep's head, and leave the eyes in, since she says it has to see us through the week"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 04:19 PM (2K6fY)

60 Mortadella, girls. Can't make head cheese without a head.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 04:19 PM (C4Cm9)

61 There is a local guy who is working on the theory that the interaction
of the raw whiskey or brandy with the wood is what is doing the maturing
of the raw spirits into fine aged liquors. He is looking into
re-manufacturing wood casks by re shaving the staves and rebuilding the
casks so they hold 1/3 or 1/2 as originally so more liquor in percentage
can be in contact with the wood.
He was also talking about shifting the barrels during the aging to increase the turn over of the raw spirits.

Never knew what he has done about that.

Could this be him? My brothers have been aging cheap tequila for years in these and swear by it. I made some nice vinegar from them as well.

http://tinyurl.com/ybs6g4r7

Posted by: dartist at May 20, 2018 04:20 PM (nisXv)

62 Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup.
Still on about putting syrup on french toast, are yeh?
Commie.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 20, 2018 04:21 PM (j0Oc6)

63 Biscuit recipe that has been tinkered with and adapted from Jamie Dietrich's Buttermilk Biscuits:

2 cups all-purpose flour

1 tablespoon baking powder

1 teaspoon salt

1 tablespoon sugar

6 tablespoons frozen butter, cut into tiny cubes before placing in freezer (a bit more won't hurt anything)

1 cup buttermilk

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Preheat oven to 425

Take the cubed butter out of the freezer

Whisk together the flour, baking powder, salt and sugar. Using your fingers, work the butter into the flour until the flour resembles coarse meal. Find each chunk and squish it into the flour mixture. Keep searching and get them all, then crush entire handfuls of the flour mixture a few times.

Add the buttermilk and stir until the dough forms a ball and pulls away from the sides of the bowl.

Turn the dough onto a floured surface and knead 7-10 times (original recipe called for up to 20, but biscuits ended up too dense even using the low number). Using your hands, pat the dough into a disk about 3/4" thick. Use either a glass -- a tumbler for brown liquors works great -- or an open-top cutter. Dip cutting edge in flour every couple of biscuits to smooth the cut. Don't press the dough back down by using a cutter that is not deep enough or is closed on the top.

Grease the skillet with a pat of butter, but don't pre-heat it.

Brush off excess flour and place biscuits in a cast-iron skillet or a sheet pan. Bake at 425 degrees for 13 to 15 minutes, then switch to broil and cook for an additional minute to brown the tops. Brush them with butter before the last minute under broil if you'd like, but they'll brown fine under the heat.

* If you don't have buttermilk you can put a tablespoon of vinegar in a cup of milk, stir for a few seconds, and then let it sit for five minutes

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:21 PM (VgKNm)

64
Commie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 20, 2018 04:21 PM (j0Oc6)
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Yeah, I think Berkeley rubbed off on him more than he lets on.

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:22 PM (oMtOd)

65 I got a new toy this week that I'm really liking. It's a Blackstone flat grill. Wow it is really great but I'm still learning.

Tonight is ribeye steaks, roasted vegetables (probably brussell sprouts) baked potato for Mrs Blutarski (I'm one of Ace's low carb Gainzzers) and a new recipe for pressure cooker artichokes.

I wonder if lamb chops are doable on the griddle?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 20, 2018 04:22 PM (+Tibp)

66 I'm making a pork belly and kimchi soup just cause I had a hankering...I'm not even Korean

Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 04:23 PM (kufk0)

67 I found a cask company a couple of years ago. They have every size from 1 litre up. The cask makes a big difference on a lot of young wines.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 04:23 PM (C4Cm9)

68
Well, since Her Majesty is out of town I'm having pierogi for dinner.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:24 PM (YJvTN)

69 Not gonna do it, not gonna do it...
Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 04:17 PM (UdKB7)


In Portuguese it is fogon da lenha if you prefer.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 04:24 PM (2K6fY)

70
Nope nope nope nope nopity nopity nope.

Nope.
Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:17 PM (oMtOd)
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Here, try my Stargazy Pie!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 04:24 PM (qJtVm)

71 My brother's restaurant in OKC made me the absolute best lamb chops I've ever had and I've had them a lot. Now I've heard the chef left so I'll find out Thursday if it still has the same magic.


Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 20, 2018 04:26 PM (+Tibp)

72 "In Portuguese it is fogon da lenha if you prefer."

In English it's Lena's stovepipe.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 04:26 PM (UdKB7)

73 Could this be him? My brothers have been aging cheap
tequila for years in these and swear by it. I made some nice vinegar
from them as well.

http://tinyurl.com/ybs6g4r7
Posted by: dartist at May 20, 2018 04:20 PM (nisXv)


No, but I will point this out to him. He is looking at remanufacturing leaky barrels from the local wineries before they toss them out.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 04:27 PM (2K6fY)

74 Damn. Did it anyway.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 04:27 PM (UdKB7)

75 Oh come on, Fench toast slathered in butter and maple syrup? Money

Posted by: Lucius Cornelius Sulla at May 20, 2018 04:27 PM (vW8Mk)

76 Another oak barrel company for aging whiskey.

http://tinyurl.com/yd3k7a4a



Posted by: dartist at May 20, 2018 04:27 PM (nisXv)

77 Bought a rack of lamb from Costco for $15 bucks. Did it sous vide with just a quick visit to a skillet with some herbs. Wife said it was maybe the best lamb she ever had.

Posted by: IanDeal at May 20, 2018 04:28 PM (5mrLG)

78 "Sous Vide Everything"


Posted by: geoffb at May 20, 2018 04:07 PM (zOpu5)I did a "Sous Vide Everything" video watching BINGE a couple of weekends ago. Couldn't stop watching! Love those guys and can't wait to try some of the techniques at home. The vids are really fun and they include Yuge Mistakes and even a prank or two. AmAAAAzing!

Posted by: Mongerel at May 20, 2018 04:28 PM (QkRei)

79 Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?

Heck, we can't even get The Horde to agree on Dihydrous Oxide versus Oxygen Dihydride.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 04:28 PM (DMUuz)

80 See? I told you it was easy. Just don't serve it [lamb] with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup.

*****

That's almost as bad as serving mashed potatoes with gravy!

Posted by: Taco Shack at May 20, 2018 04:29 PM (C+qQ0)

81 Had a grill triumph this week. Unfortunately, like much of my cooking, I will have some trouble replicating the results.

I've had my eye out for cheap beef and spotted arm roast at the grocery store in a nearby community for around $3.50 per pound. One package had significantly better marbling than the other two, so I bought that one.

I seasoned it with kosher salt and ground pepper and let it sit overnight in the fridge.

Next day, I set up the grill with fewer-than-normal briquettes. Actually, I put some unlighted briquettes on one side of the grill and added a layer of lighted ones on top. I browned the roast over the briquettes and then moved it to the other side of the grill to finish cooking.

I usually like my beef on the rare side of medium-rare, but I had read that the arm roast cut is better cooked low and slow and that it is more tender when it is more well-done since that gives the connective tissue more time to break down. I think I cooked it until the thermometer probe registered between 150-155 degrees.

I let it sit for 20 minutes and then sliced perpendicular to the grain.

It turned out pretty darn good! (Of course, beef on the grill is hard to beat.). It was even more tender than I was hoping for.

Yay, heat and beef!

Posted by: Emmie at May 20, 2018 04:29 PM (/A+Cl)

82 I'm pretty good on orgasmic chemistry.

Posted by: Shep at May 20, 2018 04:30 PM (UdKB7)

83 Kimchi and pork belly is Kimchi Jjigae

Here is a Chinese video about making it from scratch. (Hint, it starts with "pick napa cabbage on a misty morning . . ."

https://youtu.be/W4hvneKcPZI

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 04:30 PM (2K6fY)

84 No, but I will point this out to him. He is looking at remanufacturing
leaky barrels from the local wineries before they toss them out.

My brothers re-charr the insides of their barrels after some time. I guess they lose the smoky oak flavor after awhile.

Posted by: dartist at May 20, 2018 04:30 PM (nisXv)

85 Ian Deal, what is the oven temp and what is the ideal internal temp of the lamb you shoot for?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at May 20, 2018 04:31 PM (+Tibp)

86
Heck, we can't even get The Horde to agree on Dihydrous Oxide versus Oxygen Dihydride.

Posted by: Duncanthrax


*sniffs haughtily*

All well-bred people refer to it as Hydroxylic Acid.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:31 PM (siiv5)

87 I'm making a pork belly and kimchi soup just cause I had a hankering...I'm not even Korean


Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 04:23 PM


I needed some hatcho miso a few weeks back, but couldn't find any. I ran across some doenjang in HEB, and it's pretty darn good. I may convert.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 04:33 PM (DMUuz)

88
Conversation at Schloss Hadrian

Me (in kitchen): "Lamb is ready!"

HM (from bedroom): "Did you check the inside temperature? Should be 180."

Me: *checks, sees it's 165* "We're good. Come and get it."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:35 PM (siiv5)

89 32 Hadria the 7th @ 14--Fat is delicious.I NEVER trim cooked fat off anything. Prime rib? Bacon? Porkchop? Eat the whole thing. Well, noi bones, of course. I don't eat much chicken, but will attest that chicken soup can't be made without the fat.
Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (zLDYs)


I haven't figured it out yet, but some chicken fat tastes weird to me even though I love crispy, well rendered chicken skin. Are some types of chicken fat tastier than others?

Posted by: Emmie at May 20, 2018 04:36 PM (/A+Cl)

90 Having a scotch, Tomatin single Highland malt, very smooth.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:36 PM (aC6Sd)

91 Chicken fat can be wonderful if fried and capable of gagging someone if cooked in a crock pot.

Mmm, tender chicken fat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:38 PM (VgKNm)

92 I havd come over to rare beef, lamb I'm not so sure. Isn't that child cruelty?

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:38 PM (aC6Sd)

93 Heck, we can't even get The Horde to agree on Dihydrous Oxide versus Oxygen Dihydride.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

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*sniffs haughtily*
All well-bred people refer to it as Hydroxylic Acid.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:31 PM


These well-bred people you speak of. They're the ones with Pt memberships, ampersand privilege, and wear pants to threads besides the Book Thread?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 04:39 PM (DMUuz)

94 I have a typo ' havd', and autocucumber has nothing to add, I type a name and autocucumber is all over it.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:40 PM (aC6Sd)

95 Another seductive, addictive, and droolworthy youtube cook is AlmazanKitchen. Everything is cooked outdoors, and you never see the man's face or hear his voice. Oh and he has a companion...an owl. You gotta see this with your own eyes because I can't even describe how gorgeous these videos are.

Posted by: Mongerel at May 20, 2018 04:40 PM (QkRei)

96 Here, try my Stargazy Pie!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 04:24 PM (qJtVm)
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*hork*

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:40 PM (oMtOd)

97 Yeah...I start my kimchi soup from pre-made kimchi from the local Korean market....no way I'm going to commifornia to pick cabbage at daybreak...sheesh. I'm no hipster!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 04:41 PM (kufk0)

98 I long ago got veal often, but bet I haven't had it in 20 years.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:41 PM (aC6Sd)

99 US deplorably real blokes call it water.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 20, 2018 04:41 PM (hyuyC)

100 Emmie @ 89- It may (hell, probably is) the way the chicken is raised. Example--My Granny Eromero always said 'It is un-natural to take a chicken from biddie to frying pan in 6 weeks, the work of the devil.'. Granny was always right in things chicken.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:44 PM (zLDYs)

101 I welded up a nice 30k LP burner, coming off my dual 1000 gallon doomsday tanks for my Generac 22K. Blowtorch from Hell. With an oversized seasoned steel wok I bought an auction, can do anything. $375 for a fire disc, don't think so

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (Ymy4N)

102 the whiskey for u is "1835" a kentuck ee brew I buy in Cowtown, Texas that is.
#54 Moron Robbie

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (WX+x0)

103 It's supposed to be good weather this week, so I am getting the Coleman camp stove out of storage this week. Hurray!

I am also going to search my local library for Paleo cookbooks. Online searches keep leading me to recipes involving coconut flour or other things I can't find locally. In the meantime, I'm winging it. I had pork ribs for breakfast yesterday. Best. Diet. Evah.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (fxCK2)

104 Look for Colorado or Wyoming lamb. Much better flavor than NZ.

Posted by: lynndh at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (N33+S)

105 The IUPAC naming convention for water is Dihydrogen oxide. Accept no substitutes.

I could go on. Any takers?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (hyuyC)

106 Heck, we can't even get The Horde to agree on Dihydrous Oxide versus Oxygen Dihydride.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

*sniffs haughtily*
All well-bred people refer to it as Hydroxylic Acid.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:31 PM

These well-bred people you speak of. They're the ones with Pt memberships, ampersand privilege, and wear pants to threads besides the Book Thread?
Posted by: Duncanthrax


No platinum. Occasional pants. &s despite being a mostly-lurker.

And I prefer to call it "oxidane".

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 04:47 PM (JGBbg)

107
All this lamby goodness has reminded me this is the Whitsuntide Ember Week. Seafood on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 04:48 PM (YxGqh)

108 the whiskey for u is "1835" a kentuck ee brew I buy in Cowtown, Texas that is.

#54 Moron Robbie

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (WX+x0)


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Thanks. That sounds familiar but I've never bought it. I keep a bottle of Four Roses around most of the time because it has fit the bill. Cheap enough to not mind burning through a bottle when guests drop in for the weekend, and tasty enough that you're not ashamed to take it out of the cabinet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:49 PM (VgKNm)

109
I havd come over to rare beef, lamb I'm not so sure.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:38 PM (aC6Sd)

I can eat lamb at any temperature, from bloody rare to well done.

But my preference is medium/medium rare. Any rarer than that and the meat seems a bit tough to me.

Also, lamb fat is particularly...greasy? So the warmer the better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:50 PM (wYseH)

110 I remember as a pup reading my two genius sisters college textbooks, that organic chem is the about carbon. Dropped out of HS soon after

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:50 PM (Ymy4N)

111 whoever recommended that AlmazanKitchen..... good one...you almost got me to buy another knife....almost

Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 04:50 PM (kufk0)

112 >>Another seductive, addictive, and droolworthy youtube cook is AlmazanKitchen. Everything is cooked outdoors, and you never see the man's face or hear his voice.

Will have to check it out...Sounds like he may be like Argentinian chef Francis Mallmann? This dude in a serious outdoor cooking master,

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 04:51 PM (W+vEI)

113 Four Roses Single Barrel. I just went and looked. I'm sure there are others, but that's the one I've tried and stuck with.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:51 PM (VgKNm)

114 $375 for a fire disc, don't think so

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (Ymy4N)

Photos please.

cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:52 PM (wYseH)

115 I've got about 20 people within 10 miles that raise sheep

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:52 PM (Ymy4N)

116 It seemed as I was writing it that $3.50 per pound was not as spectacular as I remembered from the grocery ad. Turns out it was $3 for a "family pack" and I missed the better deal. I didn't see any family packs and thought I had mis-remembered the correct price.

I'll have to be more observant next time.

Posted by: Emmie at May 20, 2018 04:53 PM (/A+Cl)

117 Discussing the scotch, supposed to have vanilla, marshmallow and lemon. Definitely vanilla aftertaste lemon not feeling marshmallow.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:54 PM (aC6Sd)

118 Lava flow is insane right now:

https://youtu.be/SN4ai47iNOE

Very photogenic, though, this is prime footage.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 04:54 PM (FJXGr)

119 Redacted - well then your not in New Zealand, there are more sheep than people.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:55 PM (aC6Sd)

120 Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?

PhDs are just louder versions of BS degree holders, so let this BSer weigh in --

Greater than 1/2 of 'expert opinions' about taste are full of shit. I point to the many blind taste tests of scotch, bourbon, and especially vodka, to see that the expensive shit is mostly in your fleabitten brains.

Oh, and I DON'T like a lot of fat in my meat cuts. Imma just gonna cut that crap out, or pretrim it first; if I want marbles I'll buy them by the bag.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 04:56 PM (0ogQG)

121 "...not feeling marshmallow."

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:54 PM (aC6Sd)

Sometimes the wine reviewers talk about toasted marshmallow flavors. Maybe that's what they mean? Because plain old marshmallow is not a flavor I seek out in anything, including marshmallows.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:56 PM (wYseH)

122 That lava video is awesome yet terrifying.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:57 PM (aC6Sd)

123 I DON'T like a lot of fat in my meat cuts. Imma just
gonna cut that crap out, or pretrim it first; if I want marbles I'll
buy them by the bag.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 04:56 PM (0ogQG)

Do you put maple syrup on your steak?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:57 PM (wYseH)

124 Because plain old marshmallow is not a flavor I seek out in anything, including marshmallows.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:56 PM (wYseH)
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That's because you never had my homemade marshmallows. There's a world of difference.

Posted by: bluebell at May 20, 2018 04:57 PM (oMtOd)

125 119 Redacted - well then your not in New Zealand, there are more sheep than people.
Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:55 PM (aC6Sd)

In the Berkshires, there are more assholes than sheep, doesn't mean there popular

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:58 PM (Ymy4N)

126 I think I only had lamb once, long ago and not sure where.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:59 PM (aC6Sd)

127 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 04:52 PM (wYseH)

I'm on it. Clamshell owner calling friend with smartphone

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:59 PM (Ymy4N)

128 Buffalo Trace, in my opinion, is better than 1835 or Rebecca Creek Robbie, my good moron.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 04:59 PM (zLDYs)

129 126 I think I only had lamb once, long ago and not sure where.
Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 04:59 PM (aC6Sd)

Mrs. REDACTED makes lamb shanks every week. One of the high points of the week.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:01 PM (Ymy4N)

130 Buffalo came up this week, I know you can get ground buffalo ( american Bison Bison) at the grocery store and want to get it to grill a hamburger. Any thoughts?

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:02 PM (aC6Sd)

131 Homemade marshmallows are a pita but yeah, a world of difference.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 05:03 PM (VgKNm)

132 Gotta try another glass and see if Toasted Marshmallow is there.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:03 PM (aC6Sd)

133 Suns out, PINA COLODAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I love finishing off 3-4 Pinas with a couple of Vanilla Ice Cream Brandy Alexanders

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:04 PM (Ymy4N)

134 Have never grilled bison but have had it a few times. Very tasty. I want to say you may need to mix a bit of beef or sausage in to add fat for the burgers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 05:05 PM (VgKNm)

135 123 Do you put maple syrup on your steak?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


I won't rule it out without trying it. People put all kinds of crap on their high end steak, including 'herb butter', 'kosher salt', 'pepper', and the John Kerry special 'Heinz 57'.

H8ter.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 05:05 PM (0ogQG)

136 Bison can be very lean but it has a nice flavor.

Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 05:06 PM (kufk0)

137 Buffalo Trace, in my opinion, is better than 1835 or Rebecca Creek Robbie, my good moron.

Posted by: Eromero
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Thanks. I resupply every few months and will put them all on the list.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 05:06 PM (VgKNm)

138 Skip, pan fry the buffalo, you'll be happier. There is no fat.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 05:07 PM (C4Cm9)

139 Gotta try another glass and see if Toasted Marshmallow is there.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:03 PM (aC6Sd)

SCIENCE!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 05:07 PM (wYseH)

140 128 Buffalo Trace, in my opinion, is better than 1835 or Rebecca Creek Robbie, my good moron.


Posted by: Eromero


Buffalo Trace, I must concede, is a damn fine bourbon.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 05:07 PM (0ogQG)

141 fuck, I always get home just in time for the food threat and there is no food at my house? A mouse would starve. Woe is me. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:08 PM (SjImc)

142 H8ter.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 05:05 PM (0ogQG)

Syrupist!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 05:08 PM (wYseH)

143 Do you put maple syrup on your steak?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I put maple syrup on a paper plate all by itself and lick it. That's how I roll

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:09 PM (SjImc)

144 Buffalo...Any thoughts?

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:02 PM (aC6Sd)

I like it. It has a different flavor than ground beef, but it's pretty similar.

If it looks really lean, grate some frozen butter into the meat and mix it around. That's a good way to add fat (and flavor!).

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 05:10 PM (wYseH)

145 I found a BBQ joint just minutes from Andrews. Not the fanciest but the beer is cold, the regulars are funny, and the food is pretty damn good for the price. And the TVs are big and only play sports

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:10 PM (SjImc)

146 When dad shot his Buffalo the rancher/outfitter butchered it as part of the package. He recommended adding olive oil to the ground buffalo for hamburgers. Of course I went Pffft and used saved bacon drippings instead. Tasty burgers but they were a bit crumbly, needed to be in a grill pan for fish not just on the grill rack.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 20, 2018 05:11 PM (84F5k)

147 there is no food at my house? A mouse would starve.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:08 PM (SjImc)

I think I might have to start bringing care packages to Nevergiveup.

It sounds like his cats eat better than he does.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 05:12 PM (wYseH)

148 I think I might have to start bringing care packages to Nevergiveup.

It sounds like his cats eat better than he does.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 20, 2018 05:12 PM (wYseH)

Some patients do. I prefer the Arab and Italian patients do that. The Protestants, Jews, and Episcopalians not so muchy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:14 PM (SjImc)

149 always try a new brew and 4 roses it is. Thanks Moron Robbie and as mrs cosmic debris said , whiskey is whiskey.

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 05:14 PM (WX+x0)

150 I used to cook in lot of chilli competitions and when my neighbor could supply it, I used Elk and beef suet.


Absolute killer chili. Stanley Marsh told me it was the best he had ever had. I would serve it at home with a shortbread for close friends. I always had ristras from Taos ski trips hanging around to make my ancho paste. I really miss my ambition I had. Getting old sucks

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (Ymy4N)

151 Let me tell you where the food truly sucks ... American Airlines on the way to Japan.

I'd give my left nut for a package of ham and some rye bread right about now.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (hswMf)

152 I just returned yesterday from a vacation and there's darn little in the fridge.

Had some bacon and a glazed donut vodka shot for dinner.

It was surprisingly sustaining.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (qJtVm)

153 Had some bacon and a glazed donut vodka shot for dinner.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (qJtVm)


That is so hawt.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:19 PM (hswMf)

154 And the TVs are big and only play sports
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:10 PM


Please send us their contact information.

Posted by: This. Is. CNN. at May 20, 2018 05:20 PM (C5O8S)

155 >>Buffalo Trace, in my opinion, is better than 1835 or Rebecca Creek Robbie, my good moron.




Posted by: Eromero

Buffalo Trace, I must concede, is a damn fine bourbon.


Posted by: GnuBreed
At a reasonable price and due to that it has become very difficult to find around these parts.

Posted by: Aviator at May 20, 2018 05:21 PM (2cuLk)

156 Let me tell you where the food truly sucks ... American Airlines on the way to Japan.

I'd give my left nut for a package of ham and some rye bread right about now.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (hswMf)

Japan Air from Tokyo to NYC ain't much better

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:23 PM (SjImc)

157 And the TVs are big and only play sports
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:10 PM

Please send us their contact information.
Posted by: This. Is. CNN. at May 20, 2018 05:20 PM (C5O8S)

Hey CNN it's all Military and Ex-Military, forgetAboutIt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:24 PM (SjImc)

158 Let me tell you where the food truly sucks ... American Airlines on the way to Japan.

Only twenty hours to go! There may be some more peanuts if you check in your seat cushion.

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 05:24 PM (nBBdT)

159 Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (hswMf)

Japan Air from Tokyo to NYC ain't much better
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:23 PM (SjImc)


And they try to fancy it up NGU ... and that just makes it worse.

Keep it simple peeps.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:26 PM (hswMf)

160 I don't like lamb. That doesn't mean others can't like it.

Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2018 05:29 PM (A1zPZ)

161 Japan Air from Tokyo to NYC ain't much better
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2018 05:23 PM (SjImc)

I was flying first class to London from Dallas on Braniff in the late 70's early 80's with the help of my in law Braniff exec.

5 times a year. In Dallas go to Happy Hour and get sloshed board plane 7pm cst, drink the best booze you can think of and great food. Land in the morning, Drunk on my ass in south Ken. That was living

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:29 PM (Ymy4N)

162 160 I don't like lamb. That doesn't mean others can't like it.
Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2018 05:29 PM (A1zPZ)


What I tell everyone about natto, just haven't had it prepared right

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:31 PM (Ymy4N)

163 Is the taste difference between air-chilled chicken and cold-water dunked chicken significant?

Posted by: mrp at May 20, 2018 05:32 PM (Pqytn)

164 In the Berkshires, there are more assholes than sheep, doesn't mean there popular
Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 04:58 PM


Well, that's, like, your opinion, man.

Posted by: Shep, aka "El Duderina" at May 20, 2018 05:32 PM (C5O8S)

165 I'm installing a new exhaust stack for my evaporator. So I can make maple syrup for all the French Toasts.

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 20, 2018 05:34 PM (BJYIf)

166 Speaking of food, a bear just wandered through the yard.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 05:34 PM (c/EDo)

167 Nato sounds nasty.

Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2018 05:35 PM (A1zPZ)

168 You call this a food thread?! More like a Light Snack Thread!

Posted by: Michael Moore at May 20, 2018 05:37 PM (WU8si)

169 Hey everybody.

Don't know if it quite blends in with the topic of food, but Starbucks just announced they're now a free hotel for the homeless.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05/20/starbucks-woke-way-business/

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 05:38 PM (eMKNe)

170 Posted by: Shep, aka "El Duderina" at May 20, 2018 05:32 PM (C5O8S)

I was told there would be no thinking on blog

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:38 PM (Ymy4N)

171 Time to make the chicken.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 05:38 PM (a3OL0)

172 Nothing better than an after dinner cigar.

Since we're talking about cigars, my humidor humidity level shot up past 80% which troubles me. This troubles me, indeed.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 05:39 PM (MVjcR)

173 Chemically speaking, my hash stinks.

Posted by: Shep at May 20, 2018 05:39 PM (C5O8S)

174 Not saying my cat eats better, ok sometimes the same food, but she and when alive her sister always had fish on Friday and chicken on Sunday.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:39 PM (aC6Sd)

175 Let me tell you where the food truly sucks ... American Airlines on the way to Japan.

Only twenty hours to go! There may be some more peanuts if you check in your seat cushion.
Posted by: t-bird


And if you crash: Free seafood! All you can eat! :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 05:39 PM (eMKNe)

176 167 Nato sounds nasty.
Posted by: Ronster at May 20, 2018 05:35 PM (A1zPZ)

Nato is nasty. However, natto is delicious. Breakfast of champions

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:40 PM (Ymy4N)

177 Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?

Not here, but I do play one on the internet.

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that you can closely approximate the taste of barrel-aging through lab chemistry. I would presume that most if not all of the reactions are already well characterized. The work comes in creating the taste-giving compounds, economically, and applying them in proper proportion.

It's not magic, but art. But there is science behind the art, and that same science could likely be replicated without all the artsy, fartsy pretension.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 05:40 PM (Dp6qK)

178 And for all you wacky recipe contributors, I just wrote checks for $750 each to Fisher House and Toys for Tots.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 05:40 PM (MVjcR)

179 I assume if lamb is so good, why smother it with mint, which I don't like.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:42 PM (aC6Sd)

180 20 Cheap Kitchen Hacks That Will Make You Master of Your Domain


I'm out!

Posted by: Kramer at May 20, 2018 05:42 PM (Dp6qK)

181
The live stream of the volcano is literally awe inspiring.

The rooster in the background audio sounds like he would prefer to be any other place.

Next X-Games event: Asbestos kayak on the lava flow!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 05:43 PM (4DCSq)

182 169 Hey everybody.

Don't know if it quite blends in with the topic of food, but Starbucks just announced they're now a free hotel for the homeless.

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05/20/starbucks-woke-way-business/
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 05:38 PM (eMKNe)

Well, looks like I don't have to look around for a new house once my lease runs out.

Posted by: Surfperch at May 20, 2018 05:43 PM (WU8si)

183 CBD, where are those steaks you pictured from, by any chance? :-)

Someday soon I'll be getting myself some more prime beef at Costco...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 05:43 PM (eMKNe)

184 Weasel

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:44 PM (aC6Sd)

185 Surfperch, yup!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 20, 2018 05:44 PM (eMKNe)

186 Sill have up the live feed of the volcano, amazing.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:45 PM (aC6Sd)

187
Rockford Flies is on. It's the episode with James Woods and Fish (Barney Miller).

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 05:45 PM (Er5TT)

188 I use to watch Rockford religiously in high school

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:47 PM (aC6Sd)

189 Weasel, how many units sold so far?

(I love saying "units", like a marketing douche, instead of "books", like a normal human being.)

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 05:47 PM (qJtVm)

190 More of a vodka fan but still #120 is correct as to tasting the difference. But MadDog 20-20 is still in a class of its own.
My organic PhD tells me that Mr. Distiller who watches MIT videos is full of shit.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at May 20, 2018 05:47 PM (QMwOT)

191 Any PhDs in organic chemistry out there who can weigh in on this?




I'm not a chemist, but here's one way to make scotch rather quickly:



https://youtu.be/e4QNBypC9vs

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 05:49 PM (yzxic)

192 I like lamb with mint jelly.

Or lamb with rice and raisins. That's very nice.

I can't each much of it, though. I get tired of lamb very quickly, unlike beef.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:50 PM (xJa6I)

193 I'l have to admit that when the Big Y puts 12 oz SB house blend beans on sale for $4.99, I bag 6 months worth. With my well water and a cheap $15 Mr Coffee brewer, a helluva of black, stiff coffee.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:51 PM (Ymy4N)

194 I like lamb with mint jelly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:50 PM (xJa6I)


How about with maple syrup ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:52 PM (hswMf)

195 At Knebworth festival where I saw Led Zepplin the first weekend I had a bottle of Mad Dog 20-20, finished it all that day.slept under a bush at the train station that might as couldn't get out because of the crowd. Remember had the worse hamburger in my life, maybe two that day. Thought they were really mad of ham they were so bad.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:52 PM (aC6Sd)

196 And for all you wacky recipe contributors, I just wrote checks for $750 each to Fisher House and Toys for Tots.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 05:40 PM (MVjcR)


Makes me smile!

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 05:52 PM (a3OL0)

197 194 I like lamb with mint jelly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:50 PM (xJa6I)

How about with maple syrup ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:52 PM (hswMf)

That I have not tried. Or not deliberately. Denny's does have a steak and egg meal...hmm....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:53 PM (xJa6I)

198 I always wanted to set up a Soxhlet extractor system with the thimble full of fresh decolorizing carbon and some peat. Then run 95% ethanol through it for a number of hours.

The resulting liquid would be diluted with deionized dihydrogen oxide. I am sure friends of mine would taste test it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 20, 2018 05:53 PM (hyuyC)

199 Might is night, my mistake.
Type, read, post

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:54 PM (aC6Sd)

200 Oh and MD 20-20 is in a class of its own, extremely bad

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:55 PM (aC6Sd)

201 The resulting liquid would be diluted with deionized dihydrogen oxide.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 20, 2018 05:53 PM (hyuyC)


Sounds like something fish would fuck in. Tread lightly.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:55 PM (hswMf)

202 I've had lamb in restaurants before, and I've never been impressed by the fare by any means. It's not bad, but there's something not quite right between what I hear and what I experience. Is lamb supposed to be bland and unremarkable? I've never experienced lamb that would make me want or crave more lamb.
Please try the veal.

Posted by: Fritz at May 20, 2018 05:55 PM (J7XgW)

203 197 194 I like lamb with mint jelly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:50 PM (xJa6I)

How about a lamb shank sticking out of Hedy Lamar's ass ??

That I can eat, everyday of the fucking week

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:55 PM (Ymy4N)

204 Yum! That looks like my MIL's lamb.
She did serve a mint sauce on the side for those who like it --- oil, drippings, mint, whatever. And I know that mint was one of the herbs she used for the crust but it was subtle.

I wish I had written it all down.
She gave me a lot of her recipes and left me her cookbooks.
But there are so many things she did I wish I had written down. *sigh*

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 05:56 PM (0jtPF)

205 203 197 194 I like lamb with mint jelly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:50 PM (xJa6I)

How about a lamb shank sticking out of Hedy Lamar's ass ??

That I can eat, everyday of the fucking week
Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 05:55 PM (Ymy4N)

Hedy or Hedly Lamar? Because that changes my answer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:56 PM (xJa6I)

206 Somebody made a map that shows where they're filming the lava from:

https://a.bjfu.pics/cngaag.jpg

Posted by: t-bird at May 20, 2018 05:57 PM (y3sT9)

207 Hedy or Hedly Lamar? Because that changes my answer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:56 PM (xJa6I)

We have a Hedly and a Hedy, the Hedly would be good for you.

Posted by: TY WEBB at May 20, 2018 05:58 PM (Ymy4N)

208 Congratulations for The Deplorable Gourmet.

What a fine thing this turned out to be.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 05:58 PM (C4Cm9)

209 178 And for all you wacky recipe contributors, I just wrote checks for $750 each to Fisher House and Toys for Tots.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 05:40 PM (MVjcR)
---------------------------------
Good news!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 20, 2018 05:58 PM (0jtPF)

210 We raise Black Hawaiian and Corsican hair sheep (related to the Barbados). They are a "wild" hair sheep that does not require shearing. The meat on these sheep is very mild compared to the usual white woolies. If the sheep is >18 months old, the meat can be tough, sowe grind it to make a marvelous, tender meat loaf or pan sausage!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 20, 2018 05:59 PM (tWi1/)

211 Kinda' disappointed ScoggDog's Home for Wayward Firearms didn't make the Charity List ... but it's cool.

It's cool.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:59 PM (hswMf)

212 I look forward to Starbucks SJWing themselves right out of bizness.

Can't happen soon enough.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 06:01 PM (EoRCO)

213 178 And for all you wacky recipe contributors, I just wrote checks for $750 each to Fisher House and Toys for Tots.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 05:40 PM (MVjcR)
* * * * *

Yay! And double yay!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 20, 2018 06:03 PM (tWi1/)

214 Not to defend Starbucks but the Starbuckses I frequent are staffed by friendly young women and also by other people I enjoy shooting the shit with.
Nary a hipster douchebag in sight.
Yes, their coffee is seriously overpriced.

Posted by: Northernlurker but call me Teem. at May 20, 2018 06:05 PM (nBr1j)

215 189 Weasel, how many units sold so far?

(I love saying "units", like a marketing douche, instead of "books", like a normal human being.)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 05:47 PM (qJtVm)
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I do too! For,the same reason!
2,350 units!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:06 PM (MVjcR)

216 208 Congratulations for The Deplorable Gourmet.

What a fine thing this turned out to be.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 05:58 PM (C4Cm9)
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Thanks to all of YOU.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:08 PM (MVjcR)

217 207 Hedy or Hedly Lamar? Because that changes my answer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 20, 2018 05:56 PM (xJa6I)

We have a Hedly and a Hedy, the Hedly would be good for you.

Posted by: TY WEBB at May 20, 2018 05:58 PM (Ymy4N)


Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

What's all this?

Posted by: Seattle City Council at May 20, 2018 06:10 PM (Dp6qK)

218 PhDs are just louder versions of BS degree holders...

No. So much no.

Posted by: pep at May 20, 2018 06:10 PM (LAe3v)

219 PSA:
People - clean out your bathroom exhaust fans. No kidding. They're apparently a big cause of house fires when the motor gets covered with lint and overheat. I just looked at the one in our master bath and disgusting is an understatement. It only takes a few minutes and could save your ass.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:12 PM (MVjcR)

220 Bull Shit

More Shit

Piled higher and Deeper

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 06:13 PM (hswMf)

221 Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:12 PM (MVjcR)


Another upside to being a bachelor: I've never turned mine on.

Posted by: Bert G (@BertG on Gab) at May 20, 2018 06:13 PM (yzxic)

222 211 Kinda' disappointed ScoggDog's Home for Wayward Firearms didn't make the Charity List ... but it's cool.

It's cool.
Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 05:59 PM (hswMf)
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It was certainly a finalist.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:13 PM (MVjcR)

223 PSA POINT OF CLARIFICATION:
All of the disgusting lint stuff came off WeaselWoman.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:14 PM (MVjcR)

224 All of the disgusting lint stuff came off WeaselWoman.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:14 PM (MVjcR)


As is their wont ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 06:17 PM (hswMf)

225 Lamburgers with a thin slice of red onion.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 06:18 PM (C4Cm9)

226 The lamb looks yummy. I like lamb with mint sauce, too.

Well, back on the WinXP drive, loaded into the eMachine. It's working, other than no right channel audio. The Win7 drive seems to be kaput, and so does the MB it was in when it died. The XP drive did try to work when I regressed the other machine back to the old MB, but demanded activation. Which I didn't do, because I was only interested in testing the drive/MB combo. The Win7 drive would not run on that MB, either.

What I need to do is to get a machine running with the FAT32 filesystem, and connect the bad drive as a slave, and see if I can read any files off it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 06:20 PM (dOgJt)

227 Yay! Food thread!

Made some nice braised lamb shank yesterday for today's lunch. Used a ridiculously easy recipe I found somewhere for braised rabbit.

Season shanks with sp, sear, and place in roasting pan. For about 3 pounds of meat, add 8 small sprigs of fresh rosemary, 8 cloves of garlic, 2 crumbled up sweet Italian sausages, and about 1.5 cups of a good white. I used Chardonnay, the recipe calls for pinot gris. Tomayto, Tomahto....Anyway, cover tightly with foil, make a few slits in the foil and pop in the oven for about 2 hours. With rabbit, the resulting pan juices will be almost fat free. For lamb shank, I strained the juices, defatted them, then put the garlic back and pureed with an immersion blender and finished with a little butter. It was good.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 06:21 PM (UXke/)

228 if the recipe called for a "good white", why on earth did you use a chardonnay?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:27 PM (QDw86)

229 I DON'T like a lot of fat in my meat cuts. Imma just
gonna cut that crap out, or pretrim it first; if I want marbles I'll buy them by the bag.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 04:56 PM

Only kind of steak I'll buy is the London Broil, first cut of the round. It's narrow and kinda looks like an elongated kidney. Marbling grosses me out.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 20, 2018 06:27 PM (2NqXo)

230
if the recipe called for a "good white", why on earth did you use a chardonnay?


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:27 PM


It was all I had in the house and I didn't feel like going out for anything else. Don't judge me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 06:29 PM (UXke/)

231 Starbucks will probably still do okay where they are serving people inside supermarkets, or adjoined to bookstores... although the chain bookstores are failing too.

The franchisees, if they're smart, better take out loans to buy out their contracts. Or they're going to take it in the ass.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 06:30 PM (6FqZa)

232 "The Last Word" is a great cocktail.

Well worth the relatively pricey liqueurs used to make it.

It's one of our Prime Entertainment Cocktails.

Everyone loves it.

If you're a good, fun guest with good conversation, you get a "Last Word" at Chez naturalfake.

If your not, you get a Zima from a box that been sitting aging in our garage for the last ten years.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 20, 2018 06:30 PM (ZSkht)

233 how much have we donated all together?

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:30 PM (QDw86)

234 Completely OT but Jackie Chan has a sci-fi movie coming out

https://youtu.be/PycUqhQxR1Y

Posted by: Kindltot at May 20, 2018 06:31 PM (2K6fY)

235 You bastiches with all your marbling talk. Had to pull out a t-bone. Now grill-ready with sweet potato and sautéed mushrooms. And a fine CardBoardeaux.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:31 PM (naPOT)

236 Sauvenion Blanc is a good alternative

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 06:31 PM (aC6Sd)

237 233 how much have we donated all together?
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:30 PM (QDw86)
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$6,500 total. $3,250 each to Fisher House and Toys for Tots.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:33 PM (MVjcR)

238 It was all I had in the house and I didn't feel like going out for anything else. Don't judge me.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 06:29 PM (UXke/)
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i won't.

we occasionally have it in the house too, when it comes in a wine club shipment... but only until we give it away. just like we have a bottle of rose on hand right now.

some neighbor is gonna get lucky, likely the GILF next door.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:34 PM (QDw86)

239 Venezuela is going to the polls, blindfold me and have me try to guess who will win

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 06:35 PM (aC6Sd)

240 What I need to do is to get a machine running with the FAT32 filesystem, and connect the bad drive as a slave, and see if I can read any files off it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 06:20 PM (dOgJt)

Get a live linux CD - I like linux lite - and a caddy to connect up the drive. Boot from CD, connect the drive per instructions, peruse files until your heart's content.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:35 PM (Dp6qK)

241 And a fine CardBoardeaux.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:31 PM (naPOT)


Atta' boy. Real men stack their wine. Don't let 'em tell ya' any different.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 06:36 PM (hswMf)

242 179 I assume if lamb is so good, why smother it with mint, which I don't like.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 05:42 PM (aC6Sd)

++++

smother = no
drizzle a little bit of mint *sauce* (not jelly)= yes

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 06:37 PM (pvjTE)

243 Personally I like some of the Starbuckses I've been to, thought others were uncomfortable. The main reason Starbucks are uncomfortable is that it is close to a bum zone*. Like Pearl Street here. Those stores will remove their nice chairs.

If Starbucks becomes a bum magnet across the nation, then I can easily see local municipalities giving franchisees a hard time.

*I am deliberately distinguishing between a lazy bum and the honest migrant hobo

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 06:37 PM (6FqZa)

244 Mint jelly and sharp cheese is good together. Or is it pepper jelly? Might be pepper jelly.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:38 PM (MVjcR)

245 PSA:
People - clean out your bathroom exhaust fans. No kidding. They're apparently a big cause of house fires when the motor gets covered with lint and overheat. I just looked at the one in our master bath and disgusting is an understatement. It only takes a few minutes and could save your ass.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:12 PM


What if you have incriminating evidence throughout your entire home and a fire in an exhaust fan would provide the exact level of cover you need?

Posted by: HC from Chappaqua NY at May 20, 2018 06:38 PM (LOgQ4)

246 Hey!

I think I've found one other way Trump has made all things better in this- The Glorious Age of Trump.

It's easy to buy nice steaks now for good prices. Pretty much every week, I can wander into the local Kroger's and find a near Prime Choice Ribeye for between $5-6/lb.

That was not the case during the reign of Shit Midas.

It was hard to find a decent steak at a decent price.

If I'm remembering correctly, Steak Scarcity was to the new normal according to Our Betters.

I was living in a Steak Desert!

Not any more!

Thanks, President Trump for Making Steak Dinners Great Again!

Posted by: naturalfake at May 20, 2018 06:39 PM (ZSkht)

247
What if you have incriminating evidence throughout your entire home and a fire in an exhaust fan would provide the exact level of cover you need?

Posted by: HC from Chappaqua NY at May 20, 2018 06:38 PM (LOgQ4)
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You bathe?

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:40 PM (MVjcR)

248 245 Cleaned out the lint collector in the dryer today, same thing

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 06:40 PM (aC6Sd)

249 The Venezuelan opposition is hampered by Maduro's totally nonthuggish tactic of "arresting anyone who looks like he might beat Maduro".

Some are boycotting the election. That only helps when there's a parallel political infrastructure that can step in - like in Honduras. Chavez and Maduro have killed all that; Venezuela is a Gaddafi-era Libya now.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 06:40 PM (6FqZa)

250 Yeah, ScoggDog, one of the other advantages of retirement is that you no longer feel the need (or have the income) to indulge in bottled wines.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:41 PM (naPOT)

251 Here's a USB drive adapter for $24.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADYY72K7968


There are cheaper options if you only need USB/SATA and not USB/IDE.

I don't recall the model(s) that I have had, but these are indispensable when dealing with DOA machines or HDD/OS failures.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:41 PM (Dp6qK)

252 PSA POINT OF CLARIFICATION:
All of the disgusting lint stuff came off WeaselWoman.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:14 PM


* picks up blanket, slinks to another room *

Posted by: WeaselDog at May 20, 2018 06:42 PM (Qgcoj)

253 And weasel, if you're still here. Just waiting for next Thread for some trajectory guidance. Hah.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:42 PM (naPOT)

254 Wild Horse makes some pretty interesting whites, besides the usual suspects:

https://www.wildhorsewinery.com/Buy-Wine/White

the Viognier is our regular white these days...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:43 PM (QDw86)

255 Get a live linux CD - I like linux lite - and a
caddy to connect up the drive. Boot from CD, connect the drive per
instructions, peruse files until your heart's content.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:35 PM (Dp6qK)

This machine has Mint 18.1 on its other hard drive. I could disconnect this drive, plug the dead one into that cable, and boot it to the Linux drive, and see if I can browse the files.
My audio problem is in a Y-connector I made, repairs in progress.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 06:44 PM (dOgJt)

256 Standing by! Might take the iPad out on the deck for a stogie. Something hand rolled by fiery young latinas!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:46 PM (MVjcR)

257 This machine has Mint 18.1 on its other hard drive. I could disconnect this drive, plug the dead one into that cable, and boot it to the Linux drive, and see if I can browse the files.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 06:44 PM (dOgJt)

Well there you go.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:47 PM (Dp6qK)

258 "Just don't serve it with mint jelly, which is worse than serving French Toast with syrup."

I detecteth a hint of food snobbery. You and my wife would get along swimmingly. You could laugh at the peasants that put some sort of gravy like substances on their chicken fried steak.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 06:47 PM (9BLnV)

259 But what about the 80% humidity? Or is that the young latinas?

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:47 PM (naPOT)

260 Be careful rolling that cigar on your iPad!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 06:47 PM (6FqZa)

261
259 But what about the 80% humidity? Or is that the young latinas?
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:47 PM (naPOT)
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Could be both. The RH here is 60% today so I shouldn't be too surprised I reckon.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:49 PM (MVjcR)

262 I use Acronis often to make backup images of the hard drives in the various computers in the house. It's a lot like Norton Ghost used to be. Pretty nice to have a failure on your wife's laptop and say "hang on, let me fix it" without all of the normal gnashing of teeth.

It comes up for cheap or free after rebates on the deal sites pretty often, too. Look at slickdeals dot net and set up an alert to email you when someone posts about it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 06:49 PM (VgKNm)

263 the Viognier is our regular white these days...
Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:43 PM

I haven't tried that particular one, but I like a good Viognier. Chards work, but I like mine unoaked. More of a red guy, myself.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 20, 2018 06:50 PM (UXke/)

264 260 Be careful rolling that cigar on your iPad!
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at May 20, 2018 06:47 PM (6FqZa)
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Good point. These cigars are 'spensive.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:50 PM (MVjcR)

265 I'm going out on the deck for watermelon

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 06:50 PM (aC6Sd)

266 I'm going out on the deck for watermelon

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 06:50 PM (aC6Sd)

Raising watermelons on a deck requires skill. Kudos.

Posted by: Miklos, fromthe back of the watermelon truck at May 20, 2018 06:51 PM (zCyNd)

267 262 I use Acronis often to make backup images of the hard drives in the various computers in the house. It's a lot like Norton Ghost used to be. Pretty nice to have a failure on your wife's laptop and say "hang on, let me fix it" without all of the normal gnashing of teeth.

It comes up for cheap or free after rebates on the deal sites pretty often, too. Look at slickdeals dot net and set up an alert to email you when someone posts about it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 06:49 PM (VgKNm)

I use a combination of Windows native backups and free Clonezilla on a bootable USB drive.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:52 PM (Dp6qK)

268 I'm going out on the deck for watermelon
Posted by: Skip
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This is some kind of dog whistle, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 06:52 PM (Zdm89)

269 Atta' boy. Real men stack their wine.

Don't let 'em tell ya' any different.

Posted by: ScoggDog at May 20, 2018 06:36 PM (hswMf)
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yes, we do...

i just got a kit of 30 of this nifty invention from Oz to store wine in the bottom of my restaurant grade refrigerator out in the BBQ pagoda, so it would have a cold sink to keep it efficient.

bought through Ace's link, to keep him in Val-U-Rite and potassium supplements...

http://www.stakrax.com.au/

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 06:52 PM (QDw86)

270 Something hand rolled by fiery young latinas!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 06:46 PM (MVjcR)


Oh, back in the day...

Posted by: Wise Latina at May 20, 2018 06:54 PM (zCyNd)

271 We only have a slum grade refrigerator...on the porch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 06:55 PM (Zdm89)

272
I use a combination of Windows native backups and free Clonezilla on a bootable USB drive.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:52 PM (Dp6qK)


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Yeah, I had some bad luck with the Windows backup one time and decided never again.

Acronis is nice because it has a lot more options (of course) and can restore to dissimilar hardware when the time comes. It went through a crappy phase a few years ago, but I tried it again around 2014 and have been very pleased with it again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 06:55 PM (VgKNm)

273 This is some kind of dog whistle, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 06:52 PM (Zdm89)

Like the deck of a...ship.

Like....the Amistad????

So totally triggered.

Posted by: New Graduate at May 20, 2018 06:56 PM (zCyNd)

274 All this sexy cigar(ette) talk made me check out some Bizet Carmen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2YL3w9DhY

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 06:56 PM (qJtVm)

275 President Trump drops the Sunday bomb on the opposition marxist traitors so all week they got to be steppin and fetchin.

The man has enlarged my mind.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 06:56 PM (EoRCO)

276 Porch refrigerators and porch couches are great so long as they're not on your porch.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 06:57 PM (VgKNm)

277 Just completed a H Upmann and a very pleasant Pinot Noir.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2018 06:57 PM (0tfLf)

278 We only have a slum grade refrigerator...on the porch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 06:55 PM (Zdm89)

On blocks. Gonna make it nice one day.

Posted by: Voros nyak, Hungarian for Red neck at May 20, 2018 06:58 PM (zCyNd)

279 I have a stand-up freezer in the dungeon of Festung Rot that I've never fired up since we built in 2004. I bet it would hold a bunch of boxes of wine.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:58 PM (naPOT)

280 Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 06:58 PM (naPOT)

You missed a good day here on the bay. The start of the Newport to Cardiff race was this afternoon and it was actually somewhat not raining for a change.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 07:00 PM (/tuJf)

281 Porch refrigerators and porch couches are great so long as they're not on your porch.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 06:57 PM (VgKNm)

We beg to differ.

Posted by: all fraternities everywhere at May 20, 2018 07:04 PM (zCyNd)

282 Jack, boat gets painted and hull waxed this upcoming week. Unfo, I'm getting my new hip on Wednesday, so Red Jr. will likely have to take her out to C-hunk without me.
Don't know if you saw, but he aced his CG licensing exams this last week. Proud papa.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:05 PM (naPOT)

283 Posted by: all fraternities everywhere
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I thought you guys had been banned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 07:05 PM (w1zJX)

284 >>Don't know if you saw, but he aced his CG licensing exams this last week. Proud papa.

I didn't but after what you told me I'm not a bit surprised.

Congratulations and good luck on Wednesday. When you are healed up come on back and we'll do dinner next time.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 07:06 PM (/tuJf)

285 No dog whistle, real watermelon. Ate almost 1/4 of it and I'm stuffed.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:06 PM (aC6Sd)

286 I'm at work or I'd post this awesome Mint Sauce recipe I found.

Very simple - the main ingredients are fresh mint and balsamic vinegar.

Super nice on your leg o'lamb.

We had grilled lamb chops this week.

Here's a cocktail that goes great with lamb:


Buffalo Soldier

2 oz aged rum

1 oz Cardamaro

1 oz Bitter Truth Golden Falernum

3/4 oz fresh lemon juice

Shake with ice. Strain into glass. Garnish with orange peel (not necessary and goes better with lamb sans peel) Drink!

This really is a delightful drink with lamb.

If you eat a lot of lamb, it worth going out of your way to get the ingredients for this one.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 20, 2018 07:07 PM (ZSkht)

287 Mark Kelly - ( on recent shootings)kids are smart, motivated and angry.

He forgot well steeped in Marxism.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:08 PM (aC6Sd)

288 It went through a crappy phase a few years ago, but I tried it again around 2014 and have been very pleased with it again.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 06:55 PM (VgKNm)

I'm cheap. Clonezilla has worked well for me and is very flexible, re: devices, hardware, locations. I've only ever used it, when I had need to restore from a backup. I do Windows backups, when I don't want to take the machine down, and kind of as a, yeah, this might work, restoration option. But I do Clonezilla backups, as the ones I really trust.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:09 PM (Dp6qK)

289 Congrats to your boy, RI Red! Let us know how things go next week as you can.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:10 PM (MVjcR)

290 I thought you guys had been banned.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 07:05 PM (w1zJX)

We re-identified and joined sororities.

No complaints.

Posted by: all fraternities everywhere at May 20, 2018 07:10 PM (zCyNd)

291 Is anyone else thinking of CBD while watching Fagin on TMC? Just wondering.

I'm reviewing the situation...

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 07:10 PM (Evws/)

292 And on-topic... food, glorious food!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 07:11 PM (Evws/)

293 I'm going to be live-blogging the hip until they tell me to start counting ... uh ... backw

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:12 PM (naPOT)

294 Ah, REDACTED, you always recall the halcyon days of Dallas during the J.R. era. Didn't have a Braniff or international connection, but "remember" the 3-for-1 happy hour days and some other well-connected friends. That was fun and impossible to describe to ones who weren't there. Can't imagine how awful Dallas is now. It was only the booze that made it tolerable then.

On the bourbon front, recently got back from a family reunion and highly recommend OBC (Old Bourbon County) Kitchen in Lexington. If you are a bourbon authority, you'll find surprises there. If you are a bourbon lover but not a conniesseur--like me--it's Bourbon University. And the food's good, too.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at May 20, 2018 07:14 PM (UnhR9)

295 I keep having these stupid little procedures that I have to be knocked out for. I need to get me a jug of that fentanyl or propofol or whatever they're using.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

296 I keep having these stupid little procedures that I have to be knocked out for. I need to get me a jug of that fentanyl or propofol or whatever they're using.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:14 PM (MVjcR)

Granny? Help out that young feller. One o' your XXX remedies.

Posted by: Jed Clampett at May 20, 2018 07:16 PM (zCyNd)

297 Hey, isn't it Flaming Skull time? Deputy AG Rosenstein says yes to an investigation into FBI infiltration of Trump's campaign...

https://tinyurl.com/ya4f74ha

Posted by: GuyfromNH at May 20, 2018 07:17 PM (Gs5TH)

298 Don't remember what they use, but the three-year colonoscopy ain't so bad.

Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:18 PM (naPOT)

299 Nood gub thread.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 07:20 PM (Dp6qK)

300 298 Don't remember what they use, but the three-year colonoscopy ain't so bad.
Posted by: RI Red at May 20, 2018 07:18 PM (naPOT)
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Last anal probe I had the anesthesiologist was a total hot babe. I asked the butt doc, who is a good guy, if I could get another one the following week.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 07:20 PM (MVjcR)

301 I'm sure that was Rosenstein- Yes sir will get right on that, right after I finish this other thing I'm working on about some Russian interference.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 07:20 PM (aC6Sd)

302 Hey, isn't it Flaming Skull time? Deputy AG Rosenstein says yes to an investigation into FBI infiltration of Trump's campaign...

https://tinyurl.com/ya4f74ha

Posted by: GuyfromNH at May 20, 2018 07:17 PM (Gs5TH)

Above my pay grade, but I can squirt lighter fluid on the backyard tzampotli....

Posted by: Miklos, trying not to light hisself on fire at May 20, 2018 07:21 PM (zCyNd)

303 Nunes made a good point today- This was more than likely paid for with taxpayer money.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 07:21 PM (C4Cm9)

304 Well, Y-connector is built. Working in here. Now to run out to the shop, and see if I get both channels on the shop stereo. I ran a buried line to the shop, feeds off the computer speaker jack via that Y-connector, and goes to line in on my old Radio Shack 40-watt amp in the shop.

And there's a beer cooler in the shop, too. An old Arnett milk cooler, which runs so cold it freezes the beer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2018 07:25 PM (dOgJt)

305 Rosenstein (not Cloggenstien) has turned it over to IG Horowitz.

Heh (aye mateys, a shot across yer bow):

"As always," Flores said, "the Inspector General will consult with the appropriate U.S. Attorney if there is any evidence of potential criminal conduct."

Posted by: Miklos, got some leftover fireworks at May 20, 2018 07:26 PM (zCyNd)

306 >>Rosenstein (not Cloggenstien) has turned it over to IG Horowitz.

How surprising. Why it's almost as if there has been a plan all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

307 Nunes made a good point today- This was more than likely paid for with taxpayer money.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 07:21 PM (C4Cm9)

More precisely, were Papadopoulos' "fees and expenses", as provided by Halper, from US taxpayer funds?

Magic 8 ball says...

Posted by: Miklos, hand-glee-inrubbing at May 20, 2018 07:29 PM (zCyNd)

308 How surprising. Why it's almost as if there has been a plan all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 07:28 PM (/tuJf)

"if not for those meddling kids..."

Posted by: Old Man Brennan at May 20, 2018 07:31 PM (zCyNd)

309 my VA colonoscopy earlier this year was fun...

i was awake for the whole Fing thing, start to finish. i think someone on the staff is stealing narcs and giving patients normal saline instead.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 07:38 PM (QDw86)

310 Virginia is for colonoscopies?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 07:51 PM (Evws/)

311 CBD, I have a bone to pick with you.

If you're gonna post things like "Herb-crusted rack of lamb is one of those foods that I will eat whenever
I can, but it is ridiculously expensive in restaurants, and so easy to
make at home that I rarely (read: never) order it anymore", a link to a easy home recipe is obligatory.

Without a recipe, you are a goddam tease, and nobody likes that kind of thing.

Posted by: rosignol at May 20, 2018 07:52 PM (sjCQ+)

312 Love lamb chops too.
Want to post my pork/fruit recipe. How do you post this so you don't wreck the website?

Posted by: PJ at May 20, 2018 08:16 PM (qlTN9)

313 Hadrian, all I have is titanium trichloride and carbon tetrachloride. Can I substitute one of those?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at May 20, 2018 09:21 PM (tGO9e)

314 Don't know if it's a reliable guide, but I've found that chickens whose fat is quite yellow taste better than the rest.

But the best chicken is fresh-killed chicken.

Posted by: Splunge at May 20, 2018 09:54 PM (Vb4BV)

315 Rack of lamb? Who cares about mint sauce? The most important accompaniment is a really good mourvèdre (aka Matato or Monastrell, Yecla and Jumilla [Spain] are a good source of inexpensive mourvedre, but if you can get something from Matt Cline [Three Cellars] or Randal Grahm [Bonny Doon Old Telegram] or Kent Rosenblum [Rosenblum Cellars], or a Bandol from France, it will be even better).

Posted by: Otto Zilch at May 20, 2018 11:11 PM (U2esv)

Trump: I'm Ordering the DOJ to Investigate Whether Obama Ordered Spying for Political Purposes






Greenwald notes, as many others have, that the DOJ is simultaneously leaking all the biographical details needed to identify Stefan Halper, while claiming that it would endanger his life to identify him:

Last night, both the Washington Post and New York Times -- whose reporters, like pretty much everyone in Washington, knew exactly who the FBI informant is -- published articles that, while deferring to the FBI's demands by not naming him, provided so many details about him that it made it extremely easy to know exactly who it is. The NYT described the FBI informant as "an American academic who teaches in Britain" and who "made contact late that summer with” George Papadopoulos and "also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page." The Post similarly called him "a retired American professor" who met with Page "at a symposium about the White House race held at a British university."

In contrast to the picture purposely painted by the DOJ and its allies that this informant was some of sort super-secret, high-level, covert intelligence asset, the NYT described him as what he actually is: "the informant is well known in Washington circles, having served in previous Republican administrations and as a source of information for the C.I.A. in past years."

Despite how "well known" he is in Washington, and despite publishing so many details about him that anyone with Google would be able to instantly know his name, the Post and the NYT nonetheless bizarrely refused to identity him, with the Post justifying its decision that it "is not reporting his name following warnings from U.S. intelligence officials that exposing him could endanger him or his contacts." The NYT was less melodramatic about it, citing a general policy: the NYT "has learned the source"s identity but typically does not name informants to preserve their safety," it said.

In other words, both the NYT and the Post chose to provide so many details about the FBI informant that everyone would know exactly who it was, while coyly pretending that they were obeying FBI demands not to name him. How does that make sense? Either these newspapers believe the FBI's grave warnings that national security and lives would be endangered if it were known who they used as their informant (in which case those papers should not publish any details that would make his exposure likely), or they believe that the FBI (as usual) was just invoking false national security justifications to hide information it unjustly wants to keep from the public (in which case the newspapers should name him).



Update: The left's new rules, as summarized by Adirondack Patriot:

It's all academic because this is how the left thinks:

1. It is illegal to defeat a Democrat.

2. Anything we do to stop an illegal act is legal and a morally necessary.

3. The only way a Democrat can lose is if someone (in this case, Donald Trump) did something illegal, such as collude with Russians, because no Republican is qualified to legally defeat a Democrat.

4. Everything we do to stop Trump is legal, regardless of the law.

Ben Shapiro, Deep State Defender.



Correction: Red-faced embarrassment -- I got the timeline screwed up here myself. I conflated Misfud's mention of the emails with Halper's (Halper's mention was several months later).

The timeline goes something like this:

April 2016: MISFUD, not Halper, mentions the Russians hacking the emails to Papadoplous

May 2016: Papadoplous mentions this to Downer (the Australian diplomat)

September 2016: Halper asks Papadopolous about the emails (Papadopolous says he doesn't know anything)

I confused the dates and who it was (Misfud, Halper) doing the talking.

I still don't see how mentioning the emails to anyone could be grounds to begin an investigation -- everyone was speculating about the idea that Russians had the emails for months; it was one of the reasons people said Clinton should be indicted -- and I'd like Ben Shapiro to explain that to me.

If talking about the Russians having Hillary's emails is grounds for an official counterintelligence investigation, then the NSA should have been monitoring me and this blog as well. And pretty much everyone I knew.

Who knows, maybe they were/are.

But my jibe about the timeline was all wrong. I'm the one who had to do more research into the specific timeline here.

I also suspect that when all is done we'll find out that Misfud was actually involved in this "investigation," but that's not in evidence yet. It's just my private supposition.

Oh: The FBI has repeatedly lied about the origins of this "investigation." First it was sparked by the Steele Dossier. When the highly dubious and partisan nature of the document was revealed, they edited their story to claim it all originated with this Papadopolous mention of the emails to Downer.

With the FBI and DOJ crabwalking and changing their stories, why should anyone have any faith in their current claims?

Who can say what the FBI's current claim actually is? Have they made an official statement, or does it continue to be put out via not-under-oath leaks to the media?

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 02:25 PM




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1 This means he knows!!
?
I believe.

Posted by: Derptastic at May 20, 2018 02:27 PM (DB16e)

2 st?

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at May 20, 2018 02:27 PM (P3DfN)

3 Fight's on.

Posted by: trev006 at May 20, 2018 02:27 PM (lphAE)

4 drat!

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at May 20, 2018 02:27 PM (P3DfN)

5 Roomy.
Im a little nervous.

Posted by: Derptastic at May 20, 2018 02:27 PM (DB16e)

6 i think this is the opening salvo

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at May 20, 2018 02:28 PM (P3DfN)

7 get ready for the gloves to come off

Posted by: I Smell Something Rotten at May 20, 2018 02:28 PM (P3DfN)

8 Finally. Let's see what Snoozie does.

Posted by: Tuna at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (jm1YL)

9 Don't worry, the MFM is still focused on how he miss spelled his wife's name.

Posted by: Colin at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (yLA6Y)

10 Trump is out of line...this is not who we are!

Posted by: Balless Bill Kristol at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (yhf6w)

11 Isn't that like asking the BATF to investigate themselves?

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (a3OL0)

12 Dis gon' be good.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (fA1SL)

13 I'm betting that the DOJ will find that Obama and his evil regime did nothing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (pw+jk)

14 I love our president!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (4ErVI)

15 ''This means he knows!! ''

Of course he knows. I'm sure he's known for a long, long time. He's a patient man.

Posted by: Tuna at May 20, 2018 02:30 PM (jm1YL)

16 Ka- as they say -boom.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 20, 2018 02:30 PM (oVJmc)

17 Owners of pizza related maps hardest hit.

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 02:31 PM (Wd0WT)

18 But.....STORMY DANIELS!

Posted by: CNN at May 20, 2018 02:31 PM (oVJmc)

19 Hell yes

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 02:32 PM (ywLYf)

20 Extraordinary crimes against the people and the Republic have to be avenged by agents extraordinary...

Hold on to yo' butts!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 20, 2018 02:32 PM (lLeln)

21 This goes right to Obama.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 02:33 PM (DK0L4)

22 BUT NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN, BECAUSE SNOOZY MCSNOOZERMAN !!!!

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 20, 2018 02:33 PM (y3aQB)

23 Glenn Greenwald, ace? Yeah, sure, I get it. But c'm9n...

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 20, 2018 02:33 PM (cCsPW)

24 I hope this comes to fruition because there are quite a few who need to be jailed.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 02:33 PM (aC6Sd)

25 Lock them all up and throw away the key

Posted by: ALH at May 20, 2018 02:34 PM (ywLYf)

26 21 This goes right to Obama.
Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 02:33 PM (DK0L4)

And the Bush and Clinton Crime Families.

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 02:35 PM (Wd0WT)

27 I am extremely upset that Trump would dare question the honesty and integrity of Obama.

Posted by: Kevin Williamson on his period at May 20, 2018 02:35 PM (yhf6w)

28 I will believe it when people start getting frog marched. Sessions has been a huge disappointment.

Sorry to be so cynical.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 02:36 PM (a3OL0)

29 But who will investigate?

Posted by: PerfidiousP at May 20, 2018 02:37 PM (cW5Oc)

30 >>>23 Glenn Greenwald, ace? Yeah, sure, I get it. But c'm9n...
Posted by: occam's brassiere

it's the first report to affirmatively claim what has been suspected.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 02:38 PM (8rNrN)

31 Let's keep it down in here.

All this clamoring about may wake our Attorney General.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 02:39 PM (53Dys)

32 I hate to be too optimistic that anyone of significance (ie. Hillary, Loretta Lynch, Comey, Obama, etc., etc.) will ever be held to account for their malfeasance BUT a girl can dream. Is it time to go long on Pudding and Popcorn Futures?

Posted by: runningrn at May 20, 2018 02:39 PM (UUnqW)

33 There are an awful lot of people who are on the wring side of history with this.

If I was the media Id be getting in bed with the Trump administration and doing everything possible to protect myself because anyone capable of rubbing 2 or more brain cells together can see the writing on the wall.

Posted by: Mailman at May 20, 2018 02:39 PM (q3k4w)

34 Remember pappy Bush giving the throat shash gesture to Trump?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUGd7Lt7Z6M

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 02:39 PM (Wd0WT)

35 Prayers for President Trump and family. These are dangerous times. Show no mercy for none shall be given. Destroy them President Trump.

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 02:39 PM (WX+x0)

36 Trump knows there's something there.

He is like the good lawyer who doesn't ask a question unless he knows the answer.

Trump knows.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 02:40 PM (53Dys)

37 Barky needs an extended stay at a sunny tropical island resort, all at taxpayer's expense.

Gitmo.

Posted by: The Bugs at May 20, 2018 02:40 PM (vnB5M)

38 Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 02:36 PM (a3OL0)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 02:39 PM (53Dys)
++++
see if you 2 actually stopped the Debbie Downer pant shitting & actually read some stuff excluding Alex Jones you would know Sessions wasn't sleeping

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 20, 2018 02:40 PM (y3aQB)

39 Barky needs an extended stay at a sunny tropical island resort, all at taxpayer's expense.

Gitmo.
Posted by: The Bugs


Nah. Put him some place in the Aleutian islands...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 20, 2018 02:41 PM (lLeln)

40 This will be Obstruction of Justice!!!!!

Posted by: Robert Mueller at May 20, 2018 02:42 PM (AMIL/)

41 But the one thing I miss the most is Obama and his vaunted integrity...

"Barry loves me this I know, for teh Bloomberg tells me so...little minds to him belong, we are weak but his integrity foo is strong. Yes, Barry loves me, yes, Barry loves me, yes, Barry loves me, teh Bloomberg tells me so.... (to be sung to a favorite Sunday school song with childlike faith...)"

Posted by: runningrn at May 20, 2018 02:42 PM (UUnqW)

42 Alrighty then.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 02:42 PM (53Dys)

43 The only question is, can this be followed through? The ordinary mechanisms are badly corrupted--does he have the people lined up to make sure this gets handled right, including (especially!) the courts?

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at May 20, 2018 02:42 PM (lLeln)

44 Donnie Two Scoops needs to declassify everything even remotely related to this.

Posted by: Furious George at May 20, 2018 02:43 PM (1Vkvd)

45 I suspect he already has all the evidence he needs via the Mossad, if the DOJ doesn't comply we can all assume they are up to their corrupt eye balls in the illegal spying of Trump?

Posted by: Rose at May 20, 2018 02:44 PM (qHeFI)

46 I was an early supporter of Trump as a FU to both Clinton and general GOP business as usual. Having said that, I had very low expectations of how he'd do, because frankly I never thought he'd be allowed to win. He continues to succeed beyond any reasonable measure. Absolutely love the guy. What many call a crude style is a goddam feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 02:44 PM (MVjcR)

47 Everything related to this, by every Federal employee,
exists as a digital copy. None of it is on paper before
being printed from the digital file.

Why can't an authority with subpoena power say:

"Every fucking digital file will be on my desk in 24 hours or
Federal Marshals will take you into custody for failure to comply"

why not? why the hell not? why keep screwing around?

Posted by: retropox at May 20, 2018 02:44 PM (UagAo)

48 I haven't seen any arrests. Only allegations and stonewalling.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 02:44 PM (a3OL0)

49 Good!
Are leftist heads exploding yet?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 20, 2018 02:45 PM (8iiMU)

50 Valerie Jarret won't look good in an Orange Jumpsuit.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 02:45 PM (ndLr/)

51 riddle me this; snoozer jumped into his hammock within 24 of takin the at gen job citing the wrong regulation for recusal as provided by ruby rod rosett ta. Was that part of the 8th level uber plan?

Nope

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 02:45 PM (WX+x0)

52 Who would any of you trust to actually get justice? I am glad this is going forward, but it will always end up with "shoot, they didn't INTEND to commit that crime. Gotta let them go."

Posted by: PerfidiousP at May 20, 2018 02:46 PM (cW5Oc)

53 I feel I can speak a little more honestly now. It is time for a straight shooter like James Comey to get to the bottom of this matter...is there any provable intent of wrong doing?

Posted by: Kevin Williamson in a Burqa at May 20, 2018 02:46 PM (yhf6w)

54 Trump wouldn't have kept Sessions around if he was useless.

Maybe you could make the argument that it would look bad for Trump if he dropped the hammer on Sessions especially because of the recusal, but he fired Comey and that caused a shitstorm that he weathered easily.

No, I think Sessions has been busy behind the scenes lining up the ducks for Trump to knock down. It's Good cop/Bad cop on steroids. Or maybe it's Bad Cop/Bad Cop. Whatever the case, Trump has to date given me no reason to doubt his abilities.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 20, 2018 02:46 PM (4ErVI)

55 THIS is why Hillary was suppose to win!! NONE of this was ever meant to ever come out! It's funny, but you really would think that the Deep State would turn on her by now for being such an incredible f*ck up for failing to win an election that was handed to her on a silver platter. Look at all the resources she had behind her, and she still couldn't pull it off!

Posted by: runningrn at May 20, 2018 02:46 PM (UUnqW)

56 Love that PDT opens with a salvo on Sunday upsetting the Dems' day off. LOL

Posted by: Tuna at May 20, 2018 02:47 PM (jm1YL)

57 I'll have to ask my boss Rod Rosenstein if we can do that first Mr. Trump

Posted by: Sleepy Sezzzzions at May 20, 2018 02:47 PM (cAnNx)

58 Donald Trump's Presidential Forehead Merkin Stars in

THE BARACKHENATENATOR

'Your Memos. Give Them To Me.'

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 02:47 PM (ndLr/)

59 Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night.
http://tinyurl.com/hjbqqtn

Posted by: Bette Davis at May 20, 2018 02:47 PM (w1zJX)

60
"Investigating the previous administration is not who we are." - Doughface Republicans

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 02:48 PM (aeXVE)

61 I'm confused. Unveiling the depth of corruption in the FBI and CIA is treasonous, is that the charge? Dangerous and bizarre times.

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 20, 2018 02:48 PM (eAMlh)

62 Thermo-nukular War has been declared!

And it's about time.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2018 02:48 PM (+BKF+)

63 It's funny, but you really would think that the Deep State would turn on her by now for being such an incredible f*ck up for failing to win an election that was handed to her on a silver platter.
------------

It's all CYA now.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 02:48 PM (w1zJX)

64 Same professor Comey was leaking too?

Posted by: PhilDirt at May 20, 2018 02:49 PM (5djUI)

65 Are things finally going to break wide open?!?
Please let it be so.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 02:49 PM (W+vEI)

66 3 2 1 . . .

MSM DECLARES THAT TRUMP HAS OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE BY ORDERING INVESTIGATION!!!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2018 02:49 PM (+BKF+)

67 ''Investigating the previous administration is not who we are." - Doughface Republicans ''

Because some of them were involved.

Posted by: Tuna at May 20, 2018 02:49 PM (jm1YL)

68 I added some of greenwald's report where he makes a fuller argument about the Times and Post virtually IDing Halper, while withholding the name; and of course they're getting this directly from the DOJ or FBI, while those corrupt organizations simultaneously bleat that exposing the name that everyone already knows would somehow endanger him.

In London.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 02:50 PM (8rNrN)

69 65. Break open? You mean like with a machinist's vice and sledge?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 02:50 PM (fA1SL)

70 There is an executive order already signed that is suppose to drop this week.

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 02:50 PM (Wd0WT)

71 Some poor low level aide is going to jail.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (aljs9)

72 Finished Rant on, well worth watching.

I'll guess Rosenberg will get right on this Tuesday, Dec 29th 2020

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (aC6Sd)

73 >>Because some of them were involved.



John McCain, White Courtesy Phone.

John McCain.
Please pick up the White Courtesy Phone.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (ndLr/)

74 he's not working under cover in Peshewahr, for God's sakes. He's an open CIA/MI6 asset working in intelligence groups in London.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (8rNrN)

75 DANTON stupid autocucumber

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (aC6Sd)

76 War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Oatmeal is treason.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (0jtPF)

77 The next six months is going to be like a wild movie that is written, directed, produced, and starring Donald Trump.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (xPl2J)

78 So this is the final defense - publicly outing all of the political games that the FBI and CIA were playing is "TREASON!!!!""????

Not even Nixon on his worst days was desperate enough to go there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 02:51 PM (V2Yro)

79 77. Donald Trump does all his own stunts.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 02:52 PM (fA1SL)

80 Glenn Greenwald. Arbitrator, savoir and presiding judge on all things legal and moral.

Yay!

Posted by: 13times at May 20, 2018 02:52 PM (K3B2k)

81 Historic times, indeed. I've said he's one of only 3 disruptive Presidents. Washington, Lincoln and now PDJT. (Maybe Wilson because he screwed up so much of what we now live with.)

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 20, 2018 02:53 PM (2WfB0)

82 So if this is really war, perhaps PDT will put McSnoozeyface out to pasture?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 02:53 PM (aljs9)

83 I doubt anybody will be prosecuted over this BUT the more the general public is exposed to how awful and corrupt there ruling class are, the better it will be. You may not be able to drain the swamp but you can expose it to the light for the country to see. Do it in a way so there is no ambiguity. Make everything public to review for themselves and not have the MFM filter the information through a leftish haze. Shine a Light, Yo!!

https://youtu.be/the7gV99YRI

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2018 02:53 PM (wKUFh)

84 They did the same thing to me!

Posted by: Valerie Plame, deep undercover agent extraordiaire at May 20, 2018 02:53 PM (FJXGr)

85 Guess should get out and work on fallen tree some more, movie was a brake. Glad someone brought it up on the movie thread last night. I had seen it before probably not long after it came out.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 02:53 PM (aC6Sd)

86
"Oatmeal is treason."

Whoa, wait! I had some for breakfast yesterday.

I regret I have but one bowl of apple & cinnamon oatmeal to give to my country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 02:54 PM (LjusA)

87 SO much good stuff is being crowd-sourced on twitter - I fear a lot will disappear soon as YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter ramps up their pre-midterm narrative-shaping.

Sharyl Attkisson made a detailed timeline:
https://sharylattkisson.com/

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 02:54 PM (W+vEI)

88 i said something wrong in a comment: Greenwald wasn't the first to name Halper. NBCNews already did (as his article notes).

That article is very much worth reading, btw.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 02:54 PM (8rNrN)

89 63 It's funny, but you really would think that the Deep State would turn on her by now for being such an incredible f*ck up for failing to win an election that was handed to her on a silver platter.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 02:48 PM (w1zJX)

>>>

She and Bill know many embarrassing things about many of the Deep State denizens, and the Deep Staters know that the Clintons know. That's how she became a Senator and was handed the 2016 nomination on a silver platter.

Posted by: Gref at May 20, 2018 02:54 PM (AMIL/)

90 I regret I have but one bowl of apple cinnamon oatmeal to give to my country.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 02:54 PM (LjusA)

I didn't know oatmeal could be for dinner until I married Heidi.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM (aljs9)

91 This is where PDT quotes 'Tombstone': "You tell them I'm coming. And I am bringing Hell with me!"

Posted by: jmel at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM (OeWgo)

92 The time is long overdue to start hitting back Hard.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM (DK0L4)

93
So if this is really war, perhaps PDT will put McSnoozeyface out to pasture?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob


Trump: "Jeff, you're just not a wartime consigliere."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM (vO5+Y)

94 Read Sharyl Atkisson's timeline -- very well done, btw. One fact that jumped out at me was Congress passing a surveillance renewal act. Don't know for sure if some of the holes were plugged, but not a good look for them. Would take someone much more analytical than I am, but I do seem to recall that some of the 'national security' excuses were stopped.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM (MIKMs)

95 This is great!

Posted by: NaughtyPin at May 20, 2018 02:56 PM (fxCK2)

96 Glen Greenwald....

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 02:56 PM (/U6eQ)

97 81 Historic times, indeed. I've said he's one of only 3 disruptive Presidents. Washington, Lincoln and now PDJT. (Maybe Wilson because he screwed up so much of what we now live with.)"

I'd add Jackson to that list - easy to forget how disruptive he was because it's been so long - and I'd actually take Washington off it, since as far as America was concerned, he was a huge stabilizing force with widespread support.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 02:57 PM (V2Yro)

98 Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 02:44 PM (a3OL0)
+++++
So unless I pulled a SNOOZY MCSNOOZERMAN is the ongoing investigation by Jon Huber Over??

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 20, 2018 02:57 PM (y3aQB)

99 I want to point out that after the first Kim Strassel article in the WSJ, pointing out some of the known facts about Halper, she refused to name him even speculatively.

So Sundance at tct did speculate with his name the next day. Correctly, as it turns out.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 02:57 PM (0ogQG)

100 Trump: "Jeff, you're just not a wartime consigliere."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM (vO5+Y)

THIS! Thanks Hadrian! LMAO!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 02:57 PM (aljs9)

101 Hahaha. I love it.

Barack Mugabe is no different than his comrade in arms Robert. Hope and change baby, Hope and change.

Both whitey hating, law breaking, no talent liars who lucked out and didn't catch a bullet or two on the way up in their respective criminal organizations.

Anyone seen or heard about old Robert since he was taken away to be vaporized?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 02:57 PM (EoRCO)

102 She and Bill know many embarrassing things about
many of the Deep State denizens, and the Deep Staters know that the
Clintons know. That's how she became a Senator and was handed the 2016
nomination on a silver platter.

Posted by: Gref at May 20, 2018 02:54 PMIf nothing else, they should have stress-related health problems for the next year or so!

Posted by: NaughtyPin at May 20, 2018 02:58 PM (fxCK2)

103 >>>99 I want to point out that after the first Kim Strassel article in the WSJ, pointing out some of the known facts about Halper, she refused to name him even speculatively.

So Sundance at tct did speculate with his name the next day. Correctly, as it turns out.

...

i've been hinting about it since March 25th, too.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 02:58 PM (8rNrN)

104 Like Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday walking toward the OK Corral.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 02:58 PM (+y/Ru)

105 and of course this is all thanks to Chuck Ross, who put this all together. And the Daily Caller published it, to their credit.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 02:59 PM (8rNrN)

106 I guess we're not posting "nood" any more. It took me awhile to realize that the comments had petered out on the last thread.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 02:59 PM (sdi6R)

107 Trump can declassify anything he wants to, can't he? I mean, if he declassified the latest nuke designs, that would be bad (and lead to impeachment), but it IS within his purview.

Get to declassifying, Mr. President.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 02:59 PM (0ogQG)

108 The reason they are all being so coy is that the deep state hacks must all have been threatening them with prosecution if they said it - so they made it so freakin' obvious that no one could miss who it was. Streisand Effect in action - now the entire COUNTRY knows who it was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 03:00 PM (V2Yro)

109 It was Chuck Ross who set this all in motion.

I don't even think he relied on any leaks -- I think he just put together scattered clues from articles previously written, but which failed -- possibly deliberately -- to weave them all together.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 03:00 PM (8rNrN)

110 Sessions will need to go, with the next 5 under him as well.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 03:00 PM (aC6Sd)

111
They did the same thing to me!
Posted by: Valerie Plame, deep undercover agent extraordiaire at May 20, 2018



This. You go, girl.

The way the MSM + Deep State Complex is reporting that this person is a super secret agent who must not be revealed while it's also an open secret who that person is and what he does, just reeks of the way they handled the Plame investigation and subsequent framing of Scooter Libby.

Posted by: Hands at May 20, 2018 03:00 PM (EzdLW)

112 All these weaponized agencies need to be purged. Mercilessly.

There is still some good in this country. And it's worth fighting for.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 03:01 PM (DK0L4)

113 i always thought of pappy Bush as just another politico put in charge of an agency, never an inside man trusted enough to use its resources, but maybe not

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:01 PM (/U6eQ)

114 108 The reason they are all being so coy is that the deep state hacks must all have been threatening them with prosecution if they said it - so they made it so freakin' obvious that no one could miss who it was. Streisand Effect in action - now the entire COUNTRY knows who it was.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 03:00 PM (V2Yro)

Probably.

Oh, and +1 for the Streisand Effect reference.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 20, 2018 03:01 PM (F5+ro)

115 BUT NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN, BECAUSE SNOOZY MCSNOOZERMAN !!!!

-
Appoint a special prosecutor?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 03:01 PM (+y/Ru)

116 It's all academic because this is how the left thinks:

1. It is illegal to defeat a Democrat.
2. Anything we do to stop an illegal act is legal and a morally necessary.
3. The only way a Democrat can lose is if someone (in this case, Donald Trump) did something illegal, such as collude with Russians, because no Republican is qualified to legally defeat a Democrat.
4. Everything we do to stop Trump is legal, regardless of the law.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 03:01 PM (53Dys)

117
I guess we're not posting "nood" any more. It took me awhile to realize that the comments had petered out on the last thread.

Posted by: rickl


Everyone else knew, we just didn't tell you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (vO5+Y)

118 Obama Legacy: Destroyed

Obama: Pending

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (oVJmc)

119 I think ace hinted at this, but if we put 2 + 2 together here, it looks like maybe it was Jeb who got the ball rolling on all of this.

CIA snitch who was close with HW being used as the snitch points to HW more than Obama or Clinton, no?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (F5+ro)

120 116-- Very concise and true.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (8rNrN)

121 Shit's getting real. Has Trump ever made an accusatory tweet that didn't pan out.

Expect it will show that the DOJ/FBI surveillance predated any official authorization. In fact it was used to bootstrap things like the FISA warrant.

Will the MSM talking heads who said months ago that Trump was 25th Amendment crazy to say he was being spied on, now double down?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (pV/54)

122 I speculate that the real reason the NYT and Post aren't publicly naming Halper, is that they want someone associated with the Trump Admin to do it - then it can be claimed that that person "outed" Halper. And voila! Calls for a special counsel to investigate the "outing" of Halper.

Just like Plame.

Posted by: Hands at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (EzdLW)

123 I'd add Jackson to that list - easy to forget how disruptive he was because it's been so long - and I'd actually take Washington off it, since as far as America was concerned, he was a huge stabilizing force with widespread support.

I like to cite Washington because he created the position into something that Congress never intended, ie. something with power. He didn't take any crap from Congress either, so he basically set the stage for every future Exec. That's pretty disruptive to what his "deep state" of the times intended him to be.

Read the book "Mr. President" to see how he did it that lives on to this day.

Posted by: Pete Seria at May 20, 2018 03:03 PM (2WfB0)

124 https://theconservativetreehouse.com
++++
for all the posters who think Sessions is the problem or part of swamp, Spends rest of the day here & Read, Read & then when you are tired of reading Read a ton more
+++++
then go to DanBongino.com & listen to his podcasts

Posted by: Schneider's Brown Slave at May 20, 2018 03:03 PM (y3aQB)

125 I recall how when the 9/11 trutherism started the easiest way to reject it was saying "there's no way W could have pulled this off and kept it secret!".

However, looking at the growing list of people/federal agencies and outside organizations (Fusion GPS, numerous reporters) involved in this Trump coup, I'm starting to wonder if this was a DC swamp open secret on par with Harvey Weinstein - where almost everyone in that town at least knew some part of it, if not helped facilitate it in some small or not so small way.

Getting back to Sharyl Attkisson, she may be onto something with this tweet:

I think there's a major fallacy in focusing on the 2016 election without understanding the bigger part of the picture: *why* bad actors in intel community were so desperate to not have Trump elected. It's about what could be discovered about the past 10-20 years. Not just 2016.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 03:04 PM (W+vEI)

126 Must be big to have ace posting on s Sunday!!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 20, 2018 03:05 PM (kufk0)

127 Top Secret investigations, sealed warrants, sealed indictments, denunciations . . . Gee, whillikers, Batman. That Russia is sure an enemy of freedom.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 03:05 PM (MIKMs)

128 15 ''This means he knows!! ''

Of course he knows. I'm sure he's known for a long, long time. He's a patient man.
Posted by: Tuna at May 20, 2018 02:30 PM (jm1YL)

He is. He really is. He seems bombastic, but he is a patient man.

Posted by: m at May 20, 2018 03:05 PM (0bRDi)

129
Obama was transformative like Chester Arthur and Millard Fillmore.
Or maybe Buchanan.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 03:06 PM (4PIaA)

130 This. You go, girl.

The way the MSM + Deep State Complex is reporting that this person is a super secret agent who must not be revealed while it's also an open secret who that person is and what he does, just reeks of the way they handled the Plame investigation and subsequent framing of Scooter Libby.
Posted by: Hands
-------

See my terrific expose film, "Fair Game". It's on at theaters everywhere.

Posted by: Valerie Plame, deep undercover agent extraordiaire at May 20, 2018 03:06 PM (FJXGr)

131 Must be big to have ace posting on s Sunday!!


==

shhhhh !! he thinks it's Monday, we may get a few more posts

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:06 PM (/U6eQ)

132
Trump needs to clean this out himself. He's the constitutional boss of the executive branch, including DoJ. What he should do is a appoint some independent pit bulls to go in there and clean it out, going up everyone's asses with a microscope, and give them the carte blanch authority to do so.

Preezy can do this. He's the g**damned boss.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 03:06 PM (8O3HH)

133 Jeff Sessions is personally conducting a major investigation into knock-off C-PAP machines and pillows.

He's personally testing each C-PAP and pillow to see if it counterfeit or not.

He's also looking into the sleep number scandal. Apparently, the sleep numbers have been fraudulently inflated. So, if think your sleep number was 8, it's actually 6! And if it was 3, it may actually be 1!

That's dedication, people.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 03:06 PM (53Dys)

134 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (F5+ro)
++++
Jeb is too fucking stupid & to low on totem pole to do it, it was Daddy,GWB Clinton Inc & Barky McFuckstick

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 03:07 PM (y3aQB)

135 133 Jeff Sessions is personally conducting a major investigation into knock-off C-PAP machines and pillows.

He's personally testing each C-PAP and pillow to see if it counterfeit or not.

He's also looking into the sleep number scandal. Apparently, the sleep numbers have been fraudulently inflated. So, if think your sleep number was 8, it's actually 6! And if it was 3, it may actually be 1!

That's dedication, people.


Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 03:06 PM (53Dys)



He's working on testing the benefits between Sleep Number, Casper, and Memory Foam mattresses.

Posted by: buzzion at May 20, 2018 03:08 PM (cAnNx)

136

The former secretary of education under President Obama, Arne Duncan, is proposing that parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed.

Duncan tweeted this shockingly stupid proposal on Friday in response to a tweet from one of his former employees:

Washington Post:

Duncan said in an interview Saturday that the idea was intended to be provocative but that an aggressive approach like a school boycott is needed if gun laws are ever going to change. He has school-age children and said if this idea were to gain traction, his family would participate.

Lead the way! I'll be right behind you! I promise.

"It's wildly impractical and difficult," Duncan said. "But I think it's wildly impractical and difficult that kids are shot when they are sent to school."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

137 Update: The left's new rules,


Shorter version: heads, I win, tails, you lose.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

138 I guess we're not posting "nood" any more. It took me awhile to realize that the comments had petered out on the last thread.

Posted by: rickl
-----------

I did a Rot 1.5 when I saw 'Dune' on the Book Thread, and came up with 'Nude'. Cagey.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 03:09 PM (FJXGr)

139 Strzok, the guy who needed an insurance policy in case Trump got elected, was involved in

1) the Hillary investigation. He was the FBI guy who interviewed her. After Paramour Page texted him that Lynch "knows no charges will be brought."

2) the Flynn Frame. He was the FBI guy Sally Yates sent to interview Flynn. Where Strzok changed his 302 report at McCabe's behest to claim that Flynn had lied.

3) the Russian collusion investigation. Strzok opened the counterintelligence investigation of Russian collusion based on Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, and oversaw the investigation.

4) the Weiner laptop cover-up. Comey sent Strzok to look at the laptop so they could say "nothing to see here, move along."

5) the Mueller investigation. Strzok joined the team, presumably to co-ordinate and carry messages to the rest of the cabal.

Also, Page and Strzok texted that "[President Obama] wants to know everything we're doing."

Strzok can roll up the whole thing. With Page and Priestap and lots of documents corroborating.

One feckin guy sings, and it all comes out.

Mehtinks Trump knows this, and it informs his tweet storm.

Indictments are stubborn things.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:09 PM (pV/54)

140 sessions got that senate taint. will not trust him.

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 03:09 PM (WX+x0)

141 What? Ben Shapiro Defends FBI Deep State Spy Inside Trump Campaign -GP


Never trust a #NeverTrump. Never.



Posted by: Snopes at May 20, 2018 03:09 PM (r9UYA)

142 "It's wildly impractical and difficult," Duncan said. "But I think it's wildly impractical and difficult that kids are shot when they are sent to school."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

Yup....ban government schools and keep our chilluns safe from guns, sexual predators and marxists.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (EoRCO)

143 I didn't know oatmeal could be for dinner until I married Heidi.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 20, 2018 02:55 PM


Your tribe didn't know about 'haggis'?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (DMUuz)

144 How did you find out about the Memory Foam investigation?

Apparently, Sessions is using Memory Foam in GTMO to try to get the detainees to forget that they are terrorists.

Sessions also thinks that Comey used Memory Foam before he testified before Congress, which is why he can't remember shit.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (53Dys)

145 I mean, if he declassified the latest nuke designs, that would be bad (and lead to impeachment), but it IS within his purview.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 20, 2018 02:59 PM (0ogQG)
---
not if he was a Demonrat...

that would just be a step towards global peace.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (QDw86)

146 I hope they all get nailed to the wall. I wonder if they'll give this to the Marshals (also in DoJ) both prevent the FBI-on-FBI conflict of interest and also because the Marshals have exceptional expertise in locating and apprehending fugitives ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (1qrtS)

147 Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:09 PM (pV/54)
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Priestap is sining for his freedom too

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (y3aQB)

148 I am the law!

Posted by: John Brennan IS Judge Dredd at May 20, 2018 03:11 PM (EzdLW)

149 Obama going down in flames. The very thought of it all breaching the Media's Atlantic Wall of Fictions shall endure for ever and ever. The breath before the plunge.

This is our Cultural and Exiistential Normandy. GODS! Sara, You Magnificent Bastard!

And... I'm spent.

Posted by: 13times at May 20, 2018 03:11 PM (K3B2k)

150
The former secretary of education under President Obama, Arne Duncan, is proposing that parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed.

Can I keep my school taxes at home until they start teaching kids something?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 03:11 PM (lPKhN)

151 118 Obama Legacy: Destroyed

Obama: Pending

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 20, 2018 03:02 PM (oVJmc)


I'm not dead! I think I'll go for a walk.

Posted by: Obamacare at May 20, 2018 03:11 PM (NL6wI)

152 36 Trump knows there's something there.

He is like the good lawyer who doesn't ask a question unless he knows the answer.

Trump knows.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at May 20, 2018 02:40 PM (53Dys)

It's a skill set to be emulated.

Posted by: m at May 20, 2018 03:11 PM (0bRDi)

153 There's a whole lotta people in DC on their knees in front of a porcelain throne about now.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 03:12 PM (C4Cm9)

154 Or another good one: "Cry 'Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!"

IF Trump quotes Shakespeare right before he eviscerates the Deep State, that would be epic.

Posted by: jmel at May 20, 2018 03:12 PM (OeWgo)

155 If you've gotten tired of All Stormy All the Time

Read about Alexander Pantages, Eunice Pringle and Joseph P. Kennedy (yes, that Joe Kennedy).

https://tinyurl.com/yazkx5a4

The likenesses are remarkable.

Trump = Pantages
Stormy Daniels = Eunice Pringle
CNN = The Los Angeles Examiner
Rudy Giuliani = Jerry Geisler
The DNC = Joe Kennedy

https://tinyurl.com/yd8f9xd9

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at May 20, 2018 03:12 PM (EMi53)

156 It's wildly impractical and difficult," Duncan said.
"But I think it's wildly impractical and difficult that kids are shot
when they are sent to school."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 03:08 PM (IqV8l)

Yup....ban government schools and keep our chilluns safe from guns, sexual predators and marxists. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (EoRCO)
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Home schoolers must be identified and regulated.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 03:13 PM (MIKMs)

157 Or another good one: "Cry 'Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war!"



IF Trump quotes Shakespeare right before he eviscerates the Deep State, that would be epic.
Posted by: jmel at May 20, 2018 03:12 PM


Particularly if he does so in the original Klingon.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 03:13 PM (DMUuz)

158
The former secretary of education under President Obama, Arne Duncan, is proposing that parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed.
---------

Ah. The architect of the Promise Program, and mentor of the carpetbagging school supervisor who allowed the Florida shooting to happen. Their fingerprints (including Obama's) are all over those murders.

Yeah, there's a person to listen to.

More CYA activity. It's like the Clintons claiming Trump was cozy with the Rooskies.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2018 03:13 PM (7ThJ3)

159 http://bit.ly/2IAdJc2
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"Collusion against Trump" timeline | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 03:14 PM (y3aQB)

160 >>>>What? Ben Shapiro Defends FBI Deep State Spy Inside Trump Campaign -GP

It's almost as if Lil Scrappy is Deep State too.

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 03:14 PM (Wd0WT)

161 "parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed."

Home school your kids people. One of the classes can be on firearms use and maintenance.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 03:14 PM (UdKB7)

162 145 not if he was a Demonrat...

that would just be a step towards global peace.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 03:10 PM (QDw86)


Yup. Didn't B.J. Clinton authorize the transfer of ICBM technology to China? For strictly peaceful purposes, of course.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 20, 2018 03:14 PM (NL6wI)

163
Donald Trump is guilty of 2 things:

1. Refusing to lose to a Democrat in a presidential election.

2. Obstructing injustice.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:15 PM (Er5TT)

164 I speculate that the real reason the NYT and Post aren't publicly naming Halper, is that they want someone associated with the Trump Admin to do it - then it can be claimed that that person "outed" Halper. And voila! Calls for a special counsel to investigate the "outing" of Halper.



==

the other side is already trying, per Greenwald's article, somebody named Benjamin Wittes is claiming exactly that - Trump and David Nunes, you see, revealed intelligence sources !11!11

how original they are

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:15 PM (/U6eQ)

165 "Treason doth never prosper."

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:15 PM (Dp6qK)

166 I think this means that Trump knows exactly what is in the IG's report, and that it is very good for Trump.

So he goes on the attack, finally, knowing that in two weeks everybody's jaws are going to hit the deck when that report comes out.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2018 03:15 PM (+BKF+)

167 "look into" better translate into we've already got some asses in slings.

Posted by: DaveA at May 20, 2018 03:16 PM (FhXTo)

168 Obama Legacy: Destroyed

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Not at all. Chicago is now on the hook for his public monuments.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 03:16 PM (MIKMs)

169 If you what to drive Trump h8trs nuts, send them these Trumpy Bear links.

https://youtu.be/i9qv8RSreIM
https://youtu.be/gk1iXI2aUlg

There's a lot more too.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 03:16 PM (9UFns)

170
Oliver Cromwell speech dissolving Parliament would be even better for Trump to use as he dissolved the Deep State:
--------------------------------------

It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice; ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government; ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess? Ye have no more religion than my horse; gold is your God; which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices? Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation; you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 03:16 PM (8O3HH)

171 ''There's a whole lotta people in DC on their knees in front of a porcelain throne about now.''

We can only hope.

Posted by: Tuna at May 20, 2018 03:16 PM (jm1YL)

172

btw, I see the fbi did a thorough job of rushing down to Sante Fe and doing damage control for the Democrat party.

Fake News is saying "there were no warning signs!" for this piece of shit weirdo kid. And yet...there were.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:17 PM (Er5TT)

173 c c linton gave chi coms missle guidance systems

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 03:17 PM (WX+x0)

174 When did the media ever give a rip about national security?

Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (eAMlh)

175 former secretary of education under President Obama, Arne Duncan, is proposing that parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed.

-

They're talking about the school shootings were the local, state, and federal government employees aren't performing their duties, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (VgKNm)

176 Dis gon' be good.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 02:29 PM (fA1SL)
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Someone needs to get Mike Pence case of Stoli and an Abrams, stat!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (7UxGp)

177 chicoms reeducate muzzies by force fed pork and booze.

Redneck camp, winning.

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (WX+x0)

178 This is to confirm the DNC's appointment. The transaction will be completed shortly.

Posted by: Muggings Gone Wrong, Inc. at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (bYkZ0)

179 136
The former secretary of education under President Obama, Arne Duncan, is proposing that parents keep their kids home from school until gun laws are changed.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 03:08 PM (IqV8l)


Since public schools are basically propaganda mills, the more kids kept away from them the better.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (sdi6R)

180 "Treason doth never prosper."
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They are all honorable men.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (MIKMs)

181 One thing I read today that was an OH SHIT moment for me was when I read at Townhall:

**How the FBI and CIA Restarted the Cold War to Protect Themselves**

I had forgotten that the famous 30 Russians deported from the US occurred only 3 weeks before Trumps inauguration! Jesus, they were poisoning the well in order to promote the idea that the Russians were meddling, as a segue to claiming it was in favor of Trump!

I have no doubt the Russians do all sorts of nasty things all the time, but this is Obama deliberately poking the bear just before he hands off, for supposedly diddling the election via FaceBook! And at the same time he has FBI agent provocateurs in his successors operation, spying on Trumps people as they tried to convince the Russians not to take the bait!

Up until now I have regarded talk of treason and potential capital punishment as over-the-top. I am reconsidering, as I see an outgoing president creating international tensions between nuclear powers, in order to hide his own malfeasance!

Obama is a criminal, period!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (WDU9h)

182 It's about darned time.
Somebody call Hillary's tailor and get her measured up for that orange suit. Barack, too.

Posted by: budman at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (imGR/)

183
obama admin CONSPIRED against Donald Trump before the election, and the holdovers from the obama admin are still CONSPIRING against President Donald Trump after the election.


Yes, this is a real, full blown, legit Conspiracy and most likely the biggest, worst government scandal in US history.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (Er5TT)

184 176. It is the best and only way.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (fA1SL)

185 Nixon in the threads a lot, here.

(from the previous thread)

318 Well, shit. If all I had to do was say that the Watergate break-in was "just an investigation," things would have been fine.
Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at May 20, 2018 02:04 PM (53Dys)

Could you game that out?

Posted by: m at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (0bRDi)

186 >>It's funny, but you really would think that the Deep State would turn on her by now for being such an incredible f*ck up for failing to win an election that was handed to her on a silver platter.


They can't turn on her now since they've been partnering with the Clintons for years. I imagine if there's one thing the Clintons understand, it's getting leverage over your partners in crime to keep them on their side. For example, Obama had to scuttle the email investigation, since he was emailing her private email account, including classified docs (part of the language in Comey's statement that was softened up by Strzok in his "no intent here!" statement referenced this). Another example is Mueller - he's in the middle of the Uranium One deal. And others in the IC were working for here, as she was in possession of classified docs that she was not read in on; Sid was emailing some that had been presented less than 24 hours earlier. That indicates people high up were essentially committing espionage to keep Hillary in the intel loop.

We may never know how ugly this mess was, but all indications are that the FBI, CIA and DoJ need to be dismantled and rebuilt to get rid of all the rot.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (W+vEI)

187 i added an update about Ben Shapiro at the post's end.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 03:20 PM (8rNrN)

188

by the way...

the rockets "ANTARES" and Cygnus are set to launch from Virginia at around 4am.

I like the names.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:21 PM (Er5TT)

189
In the name of God, go!
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 20, 2018 03:16 PM (8O3HH)

"...and if anyone needs me, I'll be ethnically cleansing Ireland. Cheerio!"

Posted by: Also Oliver Cromwell at May 20, 2018 03:21 PM (bYkZ0)

190
Dorks: What are the significance of those names, Antares and Cygnus?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:21 PM (Er5TT)

191 Trump Sun Zhu- Dealing in the art of WAR.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 03:21 PM (C4Cm9)

192 79 77. Donald Trump does all his own stunts.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 02:52 PM (fA1SL)

Hah!

Posted by: m at May 20, 2018 03:21 PM (0bRDi)

193 Someone needs to get Mike Pence case of Stoli and an Abrams, stat!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (7UxGp)
+++++++++
Trump might be able to do it himself, sober. But the tanks-on-the-mall approach with a drunk Mike Pence would make for vivid symbolism.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:22 PM (hYcqw)

194
Tomorrow on Fake News: The president is demoralizing the intelligence community again!!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:22 PM (Er5TT)

195

I wonder if Trump's campaign was the only one that Bronco Bama had his people spy on?

Wouldn't be surprised to find out a couple of other campaigns were spied on, too. That would be delicious.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 03:23 PM (GdWl+)

196
Tomorrow on Fake News: "Sources" inside the intelligence departments report somber moods

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:23 PM (Er5TT)

197 Posted by: Northernlurker lighter less filing at May 20, 2018 03:18 PM (eAMlh)
++++
I know that was Rhetorical, But NO they never have

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 03:23 PM (y3aQB)

198 I just checked yaHOOOooo news and there is nothing about this.

Can't be true. However, Trump! did make a mistake on when he publicly updated us on Melania's condition.

IMPEACH!!!!

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM (8ikIW)

199 This is worse than Watergate. I hope every single one of these corrupt fuckers ends up in prison for life.

Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM (5fSr7)

200 Getting back to Sharyl Attkisson, she may be onto something with this tweet:

I think there's a major fallacy in focusing on the 2016 election without understanding the bigger part of the picture: *why* bad actors in intel community were so desperate to not have Trump elected. It's about what could be discovered about the past 10-20 years. Not just 2016.

Posted by: Lizzy


TheLibertyBell.com has a big lede linking to:
Attkisson posting the timeline of Obama and his peeps colluding against Trump. It's thorough.


Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM (A4DFu)

201 "Treason doth never prosper."

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:15 PM (Dp6qK)
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because, when it does, none dare call it treason.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM (QDw86)

202 wonder if Trump's campaign was the only one that Bronco Bama had his people spy on?

-

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that it's why Roberts decided Obamacare was suddenly a tax.

What happens to SCOTUS decisions when it's exposed?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 03:25 PM (VgKNm)

203 I absolutely adore Trump. Not in a 65,000 texts sort of way, but you know what I mean. I pray often for his safety and the safety of his family.

Posted by: washrivergal at May 20, 2018 03:25 PM (dJklA)

204
Watergate??

Watergate was NOTHING. Watergate was blown out of proportion into a LEGEND by the Democrat party.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:26 PM (Er5TT)

205 Wouldn't be surprised to find out a couple of other campaigns were spied on, too. That would be delicious.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 03:23 PM (GdWl+)
+++++++++++
I'd be shocked if they weren't embedded in and spying on every campaign going back to the first successful Reagan campaign. I suspect they got caught flat-footed by Reagan until too late to change anything, developed their playbook in '84, and then got to work in '88, refining and expanding all along.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:26 PM (hYcqw)

206 Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.

Posted by: gNew


Girlyman! I say build the prison atop Kilauea.

Posted by: pep at May 20, 2018 03:26 PM (LAe3v)

207 Ben Shapiro - Deep State Uni-Brow-Party

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 03:27 PM (ndLr/)

208
Trump saying "go easy on Gen Flynn" is the equivalent to Watergate. Much ado about nothing.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:27 PM (Er5TT)

209 >>Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.


Bikini Atoll

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 03:27 PM (ndLr/)

210 Make Prison Ships Great Again.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, Slavic Customer Service Rep. at May 20, 2018 03:28 PM (fA1SL)

211 85 Guess should get out and work on fallen tree some more
Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 02:53 PM (aC6Sd)

You be careful out there.

Posted by: m at May 20, 2018 03:28 PM (0bRDi)

212 Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.
Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM (A4DFu)
++++++++++
Not me. Gitmo, for all of its reputation, is in a paradise. Aleutians are better, but my dad works up there so personally I'd prefer an alternative.

Annex a small chunk of Yukon Territory, near the Alcan and build a penal colony there. They can farm potatoes in permafrost.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:28 PM (hYcqw)

213 I am reconsidering, as I see an outgoing president creating international tensions between nuclear powers, in order to hide his own malfeasance!

Obama is a criminal, period!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 20, 2018 03:19 PM (WDU9h)

Hear. Hear.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM (Dp6qK)

214 What I don't understand is why the AG, knowing this already, has not undertaken an investigation.

Something isn't right here. It shouldn't take public disclosure to get these things going.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM (J5Nd5)

215 I wonder if Trump's campaign was the only one that Bronco Bama had his people spy on?
...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobste
---------------


Bronco spying on U 2.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM (A4DFu)

216 50
Valerie Jarret won't look good in an Orange Jumpsuit.

Posted by: garrett


Valerie Jarrett wouldn't look good in celestial robes and a halo.

Posted by: pep at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM (LAe3v)

217 THIS JUST IN!

We have NEW information about Trump's inflated golf handicap...

Posted by: The MSM at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (JGBbg)

218 There's a common conflation of (A) Hillary's 33,000 deleted e-mails and (B) the DNC/Podesta hacked e-mails.

Trump and his people were half-jokingly asking the Russians (or anybody else who had them) to turn over A. "A" likely would prove Clinton Pay for Play and more. No matter their provenance, "A" was fair game as they were illegally deleted in the first place -- with the active involvement of Comey's FBI.

"B" wasn't as big a deal as the revelations were ignored by MSM, who used the hacking to build a brief against the Russians and by extension the Trump campaign. There's no evidence that the Trumpsters sought to get "B," but it's conflated with "A"

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (pV/54)

219 139 Strzok, the guy who needed an insurance policy in case Trump got elected, was involved in....

Strzok can roll up the whole thing. With Page and Priestap and lots of documents corroborating.

One feckin guy sings, and it all comes out.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:09 PM (pV/54)

>>>

Could be, probably is what's been going on. If so, then Strzok isn't going to "take one for the Deep State/Anti-Trump/Progressive Team?" Talk about a traitor!

I noticed that the MFM has never broadcast any personal dirt about Stzrok and Page (such as even so much as confirming if they were cheating on their spouses). Like they did on Joe the Plumber and zillions of others who are threats to Progressives and their plans. The MFM must know from DoJ Deep State leakers if Stzrok or others are singing. All very curious at this time.

Posted by: Gref at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (AMIL/)

220 188

by the way...

the rockets "ANTARES" and Cygnus are set to launch from Virginia at around 4am.

I like the names.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:21 PM (Er5TT)


I think it's great that Wallops Island is now being used for orbital launches, after decades of being a test facility.

I'd like to watch it, but I'll most likely be asleep then, since tomorrow is a work day.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (sdi6R)

221 >>Why? If campaign aides were meeting with Russian cut outs and then bragging about it (see Papadapolous), why would it be scandalous for an informant to meet with him?



Shorter Ben Shapiro:"Trump broke me!"

https://tinyurl.com/y9zolkcr

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (W+vEI)

222 This week will be the beginning of a bad week leading to a even worse summer for Deep State faggits.

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (Wd0WT)

223 Hey Ben Shapiro. How does ordered logic work dickhead?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 03:31 PM (J5Nd5)

224 Obama has never won a major campaign without dirty tricks and the active help of MSM. Not a one.

Except maybe hapless Mitt, where he didn't need to cheat, but did.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:32 PM (pV/54)

225 "The linear progression of time -- how does it work?"

hah.

Savaging little Ben.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:32 PM (Dp6qK)

226
I think it's great that Wallops Island is now being used for orbital launches, after decades of being a test facility.


I never heard of Wallops until today!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:32 PM (Er5TT)

227 What I don't understand is why the AG, knowing this already, has not undertaken an investigation.

Something isn't right here. It shouldn't take public disclosure to get these things going.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM (J5Nd5)
++++++++++
If we have learned anything during this saga, it might be that it *does* take public disclosure. If Sessions isn't asleep at the switch and is working with the Boss on a coordinated take-down operation, then this might make sense. You can't go after the deep state without air cover, and Trump's public salvo might be exactly that. You can't so easily suppress and obstruct an investigation (and disclosures from the same) that the President made public.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (hYcqw)

228 As he was walking out the door, Obama pissed off the Russians and CREATED AN INTERNATIONAL CRISIS in order to obscure his own campaign meddling!

Then he had the IC UNCOVER Trumps attempts to defuse it as collusion with the enemy, and leak it to the media!

Okay, I vote he swings.


Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (WDU9h)

229 I wonder if Trump's campaign was the only one that Bronco Bama had his people spy on?

Wouldn't be surprised to find out a couple of other campaigns were spied on, too. That would be delicious.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 03:23 PM (GdWl+)


I have to wonder now about the Dem's reluctance to allow anyone to look at their computers in the Awan case.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (Tnhbr)

230 >> "The linear progression of time -- how does it work?"


Do you want skidmarks?

Because. THIS is how you get skidmarks.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (ndLr/)

231 Gee, thinking back there was a lot of stuff that came out of nowhere during Romney's run. Think Obama rolled out these methods for Mitt?

It would be interesting to look at that.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (J5Nd5)

232 whoops I screwed up my rebuttal to Ben Shapiro, completely, and scored an own goal.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (8rNrN)

233 The linear progression of time -- how does it work?

++++

I find it amusing that the owner of a time machine would ask this question.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (pvjTE)

234 If I must be in a prison in exile, please make it The Isle of Man.

Posted by: Barry! at May 20, 2018 03:34 PM (Wd0WT)

235 Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.
Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Diego Garcia at May 20, 2018 03:34 PM (DMUuz)

236 What time is it?

https://tinyurl.com/y9kltumw

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:34 PM (UiRxW)

237 because, when it does, none dare call it treason.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 20, 2018 03:24 PM (QDw86)

Which is funny that the effete snob Enron Krugman is out there calling it treason.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:35 PM (Dp6qK)

238 >>>230 >> "The linear progression of time -- how does it work?"


Do you want skidmarks?

Because. THIS is how you get skidmarks.

...

alas, i fucked up. The timeline goes something like this:

April 2016: MISFUD, not Halper, mentions the Russians hacking the emails to Papadoplous

May 2016: Papadoplous mentions this to Downer (the Australian diplomat)

September 2016: Halper asks Papadopolous about the emails (Papadopolous says he doesn't know anything)

I confused the dates and who it was (Misfud, Halper) doing the talking.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 03:35 PM (8rNrN)

239 I'm friends with Ben on Kik.

Posted by: Barry! at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (Wd0WT)

240 Strzok isn't going to "take one for the Deep State/Anti-Trump/Progressive Team


His ass isn't big enough to take on for the Deep State.

Posted by: Rosie Donnel at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (A4DFu)

241 Marcus T, there has been extensive investigations going on for the last year.

It is much better to have had Congress as an active part in this. Eliminates the "Trump is a Dictator" argument. The appointment of Huber, by Sessions, makes sure there are no trials in DC.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (C4Cm9)

242 Hot dogs are my favorite meat.

Posted by: Mitt Everyman Romney at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (RHEDC)

243 232 whoops I screwed up my rebuttal to Ben Shapiro, completely, and scored an own goal.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2018 03:33 PM (8rNrN)

++++

Plus, your correction ruined my joke. That's the part that really hurts.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (pvjTE)

244 Why? If campaign aides were meeting with Russian cut outs and then bragging about it (see Papadapolous), why would it be scandalous for an informant to meet with him?

==

because the informant helped set up the trap ? and then informed on it ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (/U6eQ)

245 What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Diego Garcia

Don't you have a 6 finger man to look for?


...MSM...Maxine WaterS...

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (8ikIW)

246 What I don't understand is why the AG, knowing this already, has not undertaken an investigation.



Something isn't right here. It shouldn't take public disclosure to get these things going.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM
------------
Trump and sessions had to let this play out or risk stepping on the toes of the IG and Prosecutor that sessions appointed and screwing that criminal investigation up.

I have no doubt that they found out what was going on during the campaign in the last few weeks and months as the IG kept digging and reporting back to DOJ. But Trump has kept his mouth shut until something pops up in the NYT or some other place, then he blasts them.

This is all an attempt to get ahead of what is coming out in the IG report. And if the media is reporting that spying was actually taking place in Trump's campaign we are going to see even worse stuff revealed when the IG report goes public.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (+Dllb)

247 >>What I don't understand is why the AG, knowing this already, has not undertaken an investigation.



Here's my optimistic take on Sessions: He and Trump intentionally had him sit back so that when he does strike, there can be no legitimate accusations of him impeding the Mueller investigation on Trump's behalf. Having Rosenstein do it means it was guided by a non-Trump appointee, which defuses any appearance of partisanship.

Also, having him stand down has been a big ol' rope-a-dope, as it has allowed all the players - Mueller, Rosenstein and the rest to actively attempt their coup while the Horowitz investigation was actively watching them, tracking and documenting their every move.

I'd like that to be true, anyway...

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (W+vEI)

248 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jeb! at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (DMUuz)

249 There's a whole lotta people in DC on their knees in front of a porcelain throne about now.

Along, not across.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (brIR5)

250 >>alas, i fucked up.


Oh - you can get them doing squats, too.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (ndLr/)

251 242 Hot dogs are my favorite meat.
Posted by: Mitt Everyman Romney at May 20, 2018 03:36 PM (RHEDC)

You and me both sailor.

Posted by: Barry! at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (Wd0WT)

252 Sharyl Atkkisson being vindicated after all the stuff she's been victim to restores hope and vanquishes much of my cynicism.

Stalwart Homeric trooper through the thick of it.

Posted by: 13times at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (K3B2k)

253 214 What I don't understand is why the AG, knowing this already, has not undertaken an investigation.

Something isn't right here. It shouldn't take public disclosure to get these things going.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 03:29 PM (J5Nd5)

It would not surprise me if there already is, and this "formal" announcement is part of the show that this is not Trump using the government to punish his enemies. Guy knows how to put on a great show.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:38 PM (Dp6qK)

254 248 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jeb! at May 20, 2018 03:37 PM (DMUuz)

++++

Not yet. Why don't you go away some more to see if it kicks in.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 20, 2018 03:38 PM (pvjTE)

255 What time is it?

https://tinyurl.com/y9kltumw
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:34 PM (UiRxW)
++++++++++
I am tempted to buy it, but it would be one helluva mixed metaphor...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:38 PM (hYcqw)

256 226
I never heard of Wallops until today!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:32 PM (Er5TT)


As a test facility, it was established in 1945 and predates Cape Canaveral. In the late 40s and early 50s, instrumented models of the new supersonic airplanes were attached to small solid-fuel rockets and launched. This was because wind tunnels at the time could not model conditions in the transonic region very well. After that period, lots of scientific sounding rockets were launched to study the upper atmosphere, a practice which continues to this day.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:39 PM (sdi6R)

257

Ace shoulda posted a pic of Jeff Sessions wearing a nightcap with this poat.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:40 PM (Er5TT)

258 There's no evidence that the Trumpsters sought to get "B," but it's conflated with "A"

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:30 PM (pV/54)

Mueller is focusing on Stone and associates to try to establish the former (Podesta/DNC).

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:40 PM (Dp6qK)

259 Yes, this is a real, full blown, legit Conspiracy and most likely the biggest, worst government scandal in US history.------------------------------------

I imagine so, but I'm pretty sure this type of thing is SOP for the Democrats/DS.

We only found about it because Trump won, and fights.
Why did John Roberts write the majority opinion on ObamaCare which then mysteriously became the dissent? This isn't a conspiracy theory, mind you. It was reported in Salon of all places. I would guess whatever the reason is is also a pretty fucking big scandal.

Posted by: Mega at May 20, 2018 03:40 PM (rv0Fo)

260 >>It would not surprise me if there already is, and this "formal" announcement is part of the show that this is not Trump using the government to punish his enemies. Guy knows how to put on a great show.



Like he did with McCabe.
He tweeted that shot across the bow about McCabe not making it to retirement, and sure enough, the FBI itself was already in the process of recommending he be fired.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (W+vEI)

261 regardless, they're all gonna walk.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (Pg+x7)

262

rickl, how long you think those rockets will be visible to human eye after launch?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (Er5TT)

263 I am tempted to buy it, but it would be one helluva mixed metaphor...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:38 PM (hYcqw)
---
I was }{ this close to buying it yesterday.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (UiRxW)

264 Ace, you are correct is asking if the 'media' are traitors. The are, as a matter of strict fact, traitors. As are most on the commie islamo-sympathizing left.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (zLDYs)

265 Has everyone noticed that meuller's team and their leaks, comey, brennan and Senator mccain and his wife have gone completely silent in the last few days?

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (+Dllb)

266

btw, notice how that fake hero cuck Trey Gowdy has absolutely no interest in any of this?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:42 PM (Er5TT)

267 Lizzy, good read.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 20, 2018 03:42 PM (C4Cm9)

268 Very descriptive blog, I enjoyed that bit. Will there be a part
2?

Posted by: Riddleschoolunblocked.Com at May 20, 2018 03:42 PM (MFxkU)

269 Mueller got in so deep that he does not know how gracefully extricate himself from this fiasco; his moves look more and more desperate. He is trying to salvage his reputation, he hasn't accepted that the only way to do it is to shut this shiiit investigation down.

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:43 PM (/U6eQ)

270 Trump is going on offense bigly! Let's call it Operation Wolverine!
++++
http://bit.ly/2Li3qew

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 03:44 PM (y3aQB)

271 Trump has a modus operandi where he gives bad actors a chance to get off the hook. If they blow it, he has license to go medieval on their ass.

Asking Comey to go easy on Flynn, when Trump knew Flynn was getting framed, is an example.

There were many media talking heads who said that Trump was crazy -- 25th Amendment Crazy! -- to say that the Obamans were spying on him during the campaign. Will they double down now?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:44 PM (pV/54)

272 Did shit get real?

On a Sunday?

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 03:44 PM (+lOpA)

273 262

rickl, how long you think those rockets will be visible to human eye after launch?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:41 PM (Er5TT)


It depends on where you are. If you're near there, it should be bright and obvious. I've seen a couple launches from there at night from my front yard, which is 170 miles north of the site.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:45 PM (sdi6R)

274 I miss the burning skeleton heads.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 03:45 PM (MVjcR)

275 Rest assured, if Trump is "tweeting" this now, he has all the backup information to go along with it. All of it. He is now waiting for the opposition to start circling the wagons this week, see who comes out of the woodwork, what they misdirect to, and what wrong moves they make.

I am expecting the STHTF well in time for the midterms (the good shit, our shit), and am waiting patiently for Trump to start ripping apart/demoralizing the various identity group factions of the Democrat Party. Reminding or informing each of them that the Democrats only want their vote and never deliver.
You will know it when you see it. I would not be surprised if General Eric Republican pulls ahead on the ballot by Septemberish.

Posted by: Mega at May 20, 2018 03:45 PM (rv0Fo)

276 Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.
Posted by: gNewt

Drop him off on Attu (or Kiska) with 2 x 30 day pallets of MREs. Every 30 days, LAPES another pallet on the beach. Pallets dispense one MRE 3 times a day, which may or may not correspond to local morning, noon and evening.

MRE consist is composed by surveying troops, and pulling the least favored types out of general circulation.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 20, 2018 03:45 PM (brIR5)

277 The Hammer of God. 45th

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 03:46 PM (WX+x0)

278 "He is trying to salvage his reputation,"

I believe he can get indicted over the Flynn Frame.

I don't understand his role in Uranium One, except for giving the Clintons a pass.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:46 PM (pV/54)

279 A Sunday Ace post, worthy of a part 2, with flaming skulls. The surprise will be that this went on in 2012 with Romney as well. He rolled over after the first debate.

Posted by: Uncle Si at May 20, 2018 03:46 PM (CCX7M)

280 i read the longest blog post last night that laid out a ton of theories, among them...

dnc was hacked by a russian university
dutch alerted fbi
fbi alerted dnc, who sat on it for five days, while they hired cyber-security.
meanwhile wiki tweets they will publish hills emails.
to counter, luccifer2 was created to cast doubt on wiki AND the luccifer stuff came from someone on the east coast on a laptop belonging to vp biden staff.

as it became apparent djt would be (r) nominee, leaks from hills staff to friendly print (wapo, politico) began appearing to create the whole russia!trump meme.

Posted by: concrete girl at May 20, 2018 03:46 PM (TNEdO)

281 Gitmo or the Aleutians, either one is fine by me.

Embrace the healing power of "and".

Posted by: King Solomon at May 20, 2018 03:46 PM (JGBbg)

282 When I was a soldier I had personal political beliefs (I voted for Reagan) but I took great pride in performing my duties apolitically. I considered it a duty and part of my oath. That same ethic should be demanded of every Federal employee and punished by firing - with extreme prejudice) if not adhered to.

Am I hopelessly naive? Fuck it, even if I am, that should be the goal of any honorable American.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 03:46 PM (DK0L4)

283 When I was a mere WeaselPup living in Tallahassee we used to see atmospheric sounding rockets launch from Elgin AFB.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 03:47 PM (MVjcR)

284 I think it's great that Wallops Island is now being used for orbital launches, after decades of being a test facility.


I never heard of Wallops until today!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at May 20, 2018 03:32 PM (Er5TT)
----

Went on a tour of Wallops and would recommend it to any enthusiasts out there.

Also, love that there is something called the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport. Such a mundane name for something so futuristic. Hey, it is the 21st Century after all.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 03:47 PM (qJtVm)

285 CBS News
@CBSNews
At DNC women's forum, Hillary Clinton declares Democrats stand for truth, evidence and facts

Maybe it's a stand-up routine. "Take my felonies, please!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 03:47 PM (+y/Ru)

286 if meeting with a foreigner for dirt on a political opponent is "illegal" then what the "F" is meeting with Chris Steele?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 03:47 PM (sB8d1)

287
The Sunday of the Long Knives.

Expect our "public intellectuals" and "thought leaders" explicitly to hope for assassination or military takeover.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 03:47 PM (KkX1P)

288 Campaign aides met with Russian cutouts hired by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Posted by: Wodun at May 20, 2018 03:48 PM (Zrqab)

289 I miss the burning skeleton heads.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 03:45 PM (MVjcR)
----
Ummm... I think the word you're looking for "skulls"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:48 PM (UiRxW)

290 Ben Shapiro thought it was hilarious when a SWAT team raided Trump's lawyer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (rnAwa)

291 Help a moronic layman out -- is this a big deal? And who would conduct the investigation?

Posted by: joncelli, nominal Lutheran at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (1FhAQ)

292 Eglin AFB not Elgin

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (MVjcR)

293 coluzhion between Hillary and GOPe

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (/U6eQ)

294 "I still don't see how mentioning the emails to anyone could be grounds to begin an investigation -- everyone was speculating about the idea that Russians had the emails for months; it was one of the reasons people said Clinton should be indicted -- and I'd like Ben Shapiro to explain that to me."


Everyone presumed the Russians had the deleted emails (even Strozk, IIRC, makes mention of possible state actors having gotten access). Everything that they have run with says they believe Russia had the emails.

That still does not explain why, little Ben, Misfud - conveniently disappeared - telling a Trump campaign guy the Russian's had them, would cause the early 2016 FBI/CIA descending on the Trump campaign with human intelligence operations, when they didn't even bother to seize and investigate hillary's or the DNC's fucking servers, if they were so g-damned concerned about national security!

I'd like to know what other leads and operations they had going on to pursue Russian meddling/hacking/email propagating, at the time. I expect we will see a distinct lack of interest in anyone other than someone with a connection to Trump.

Ben is an asshole who is playing games with the obvious implications. Stupid dwarf.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (Dp6qK)

295 McCain, what does he say about this?
Why hasn't the media reported his position?

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (A4DFu)

296 Shapiro should recall the equal balance test before going the tendentious route.

If the FBI started a counter intelligence investigation on the Hillary campaign on no basis whatsoever (a super peripheral volunteer to the campaing's fringe asserting Russia! had some contact with her campaign) then the left would be justifiably outraged.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (rBnYq)

297 The Democrat Party is the enemy of everything American. They prove it by word and deed every day and have been doing so for decades.

Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (DK0L4)

298 Why dont the nevertrumpers want to clean this out, dont they think it will be much dirtier next time if this is allowed to stay in the system?
It will be one party state venezuela style if this isn't purged.

Posted by: muckrack at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (RbR1e)

299 I miss the burning skeleton heads.
Posted by: Weasel


Ironic flame-upon-head imagery has been deferred until after Pentecost.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (JGBbg)

300 Is it popcorn time?

Posted by: josephistan at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (ANIFC)

301 My favorite Wallops launch photo:

http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/space___s/misc/wallops-frog.html

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (qJtVm)

302 Notice how PDT is calling on the DOJ and not a 2nd special counsel to investigate the DOJ/FBI? Snoozy Sessions has been playing possum, not snoozing. PDT is laying down an artillery barrage to prepare for the release of the OIG report followed by indictments by Huber.

Posted by: Hobo with a laptop at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (Dgce0)

303 As soon as Ben Shapiro white knighted and started masturbating to fantasies of reattaching Michelle Fields arm back in place I knew I could never take him seriously about anything again.

Posted by: Froderick Wonkensteen at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (+dsLj)

304 mc crains position is supine and very still

Posted by: cosmic debris at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (WX+x0)

305 wasn't diego garcia married to frieda kahlo?

Posted by: Adobe Juan Calhoon Kenobe at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (Nf7ch)

306 290
Ben Shapiro thought it was hilarious when a SWAT team raided Trump's lawyer.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM (rnAwa)

Isn't Shatpiro a lawyer himself?

Posted by: muckrack at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (RbR1e)

307 In the midst of all this doom unt gloom, here's an upbeat item to cheer The Horde:

Former Secretary of State and 1st Runner Up in the 2016 United States Presidential Election, Hillary Rodham Clinton, will be awarded Harvard University's Radcliffe Medal in Cambridge, which Harvard says honors individuals
whose life and work have had a "transformative impact on society."

Hillary! was chosen because she's a "champion for human
rights," a "skilled legislator" and "an advocate of American leadership"
on the world stage.



Former Secretary of State and 2001 Radcliffe Medalist Madeleine
Albright will deliver a personal tribute to Hillary!, and Massachusetts
Attorney General Maura Healey will take part in a keynote conversation
with Hillary! Friday.

No word on access donations ticket prices, or whether autographed copies of Hillary!'s latest book will be available.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (DMUuz)

308 And to press an obvious point that many have noted for almost a year (recently making an impression on Andy McCarthy) why hasn't Mueller yet secured the Goddamned DNC server, supposedly "hacked", and forming the entire basis of the "Russia hacked my election" investigation in the first place?

And where's Wasserman's laptop? Has anyone gone over what it shows the head DNC tech people knew or thought about "hacking" and what it also shows about who knew what when about Hillary's obviously illegal private server (as well as showing conspiracy, obstruction and perjury by Abadeen, Mills and others).

Where is DWS's Pakistani tech Awan these days, and why hasn't he been questioned what he knew when about the alleged "hacking" and what he knew about Hillary's server setup?

If in the 1970s it was "follow the money" in our time, it should be "follow the computer trail." It all leads straight to Hillary and the DNC.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (koNhm)

309 we also have to realize the left is insane and any road to making anything anyone associated with trump into a crime is the only path they seek. since there is literally no chance a similar standard will be applied to them, who cares?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 03:52 PM (sB8d1)

310 After all the fuss about Crossfire Hurricane a few days ago, and all the Rolling Stones puns in the comments here, I'm still shocked that no one (I'm pretty sure) has yet said "Mother's Little Halper".

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at May 20, 2018 03:52 PM (jGvNH)

311 The FBI knew Manafort was working with and for the Podesta Brothers when he had his Ukraine contacts, the very cause for his present indictment. Why then aren't they investigating the Podestas alongside Manafort/Gates and the Hillary campaign right alongside the Trump campaign?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 03:52 PM (rBnYq)

312 300 Is it popcorn time?
Posted by: josephistan at May 20, 2018 03:50 PM (ANIFC)

I have my Hitachi Wand plugged in and a gallon of lube.

Posted by: Not Stromy Daniels at May 20, 2018 03:52 PM (Wd0WT)

313 "And to press an obvious point that many have noted for almost a year (recently making an impression on Andy McCarthy) why hasn't Mueller yet secured the Goddamned DNC server, supposedly "hacked", and forming the entire basis of the "Russia hacked my election" investigation in the first place? "

becuase mueller has not investigated russian "collusion" or anything related to what the clinton campaign complained about but was rather a fishing expedition from the start, enabled by rosenstein.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 03:53 PM (sB8d1)

314 "Treason doth never prosper."
=====

They are all honorable men.

-
Who, me?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 03:53 PM (+y/Ru)

315 289 I miss the burning skeleton heads.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 03:45 PM (MVjcR)
----
Ummm... I think the word you're looking for "skulls"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 20, 2018 03:48 PM (UiRxW)


lol

Posted by: eleven at May 20, 2018 03:53 PM (+lOpA)

316 >>Where is DWS's Pakistani tech Awan these days, and why hasn't he been questioned what he knew when about the alleged "hacking" and what he knew about Hillary's server setup?


The Awan hearing keeps getting rescheduled - Luke Rosiak, God bless him, has been all over this story. With the most recent postponement he was wondering who was assisting Swan in getting this done.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 03:54 PM (W+vEI)

317 I have this theory that Barky has pics of Mittens sucking cock backstage at an Angel concert and is using it to force Romney to run again.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 03:54 PM (UdKB7)

318 "Ben Shapiro thought it was hilarious when a SWAT team raided Trump's lawyer."

is there anyone in the judiciary or legal community that cares about the end of lawyer=client privilege for the sake of political games?

sad?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 03:54 PM (sB8d1)

319 284
Went on a tour of Wallops and would recommend it to any enthusiasts out there.

Also, love that there is something called the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport. Such a mundane name for something so futuristic. Hey, it is the 21st Century after all.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 03:47 PM (qJtVm)


I went on the tour when I was a kid in the 60s. I was disappointed that there were no launches while I was there.

Here are a couple of lectures about Wallops Island history:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtKa3mtdf2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHvTcTe8-ko

There are other videos on YouTube as well.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 03:54 PM (sdi6R)

320 @313
You know and I know, and yes the question is for this audience rhetorical. But its a point that could and should be made clearly for the general public. Really, Trump should immediately order to secure all the forensic evidence, which even the DNC couldn't spin to "obstruction" (how could one "obstruct" by getting even more evidence)?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (koNhm)

321

The FBI knew Manafort was working with and for the Podesta Brothers when he had his Ukraine contacts, the very cause for his present indictment. Why then aren't they investigating the Podestas alongside Manafort/Gates and the Hillary campaign right alongside the Trump campaign?

==

remind me how was he working on behalf of podesta bros in Ukraine ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (/U6eQ)

322 A Joe Scarborough music hit would go great with this post.

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (Wd0WT)

323 Why? If campaign aides were meeting with Russian cut outs and then bragging about it (see Papadapolous), why would it be scandalous for an informant to meet with him?


Maybe I'm getting the timeline wrong, too, but here's my question:

Why was there an informant embedded in the campaign in the first place? Was the informant already embedded prior to Papadapolous "bragging"? If so, then it might appear Ben is begging the question.

Posted by: Hands at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (EzdLW)

324 The Russians owned the ISP Hillary's private server used to get to the internet, via a Luxembourg cut out company, so every single email she sent or received flowed through a Kremlin owned gateway before it got to its intended destination.

Did the FBI open a counter intelligence investigation of that hugely concerning national security fact? If not, why not?


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (rBnYq)

325 I have my Hitachi Wand plugged in and a gallon of lube.
Posted by: Not Stromy Daniels at May 20, 2018 03:52 PM (Wd0WT)
+++++++++++
If things pan out properly, you're gonna need a bigger boat: https://tinyurl.com/y9ctjtv2

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (hYcqw)

326 NOOD -- I think most of the horde went to talk about food

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 20, 2018 03:56 PM (5Yee7)

327 And to press an obvious point that many have noted
for almost a year (recently making an impression on Andy McCarthy) why
hasn't Mueller yet secured the Goddamned DNC server, supposedly
"hacked", and forming the entire basis of the "Russia hacked my
election" investigation in the first place?



And where's Wasserman's laptop? Has anyone gone over what it shows
the head DNC tech people knew or thought about "hacking" and what it
also shows about who knew what when about Hillary's obviously illegal
private server (as well as showing conspiracy, obstruction and perjury
by Abadeen, Mills and others).



Where is DWS's Pakistani tech Awan these days, and why hasn't he
been questioned what he knew when about the alleged "hacking" and what
he knew about Hillary's server setup?



If in the 1970s it was "follow the money" in our time, it should be
"follow the computer trail." It all leads straight to Hillary and the
DNC.



Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 20, 2018 03:51 PM (koNhm)


THIS x 1000

Posted by: LGoPs at May 20, 2018 03:56 PM (DK0L4)

328 remind me how was he working on behalf of podesta bros in Ukraine ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:55 PM (/U6eQ)
======================their firm employed him. that's why the firm closed down.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 03:56 PM (rBnYq)

329 Posted by: Diego Garcia at May 20, 2018 03:34 PM (DMUuz)

Diego Garcia, like Ascension Island, is British territory. Gitmo is ours.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (brIR5)

330 "Who hacked the DNC server" was part of Mueller's mandate, as he took over the FBI investigation of it.
But we know he hasn't done a goddamn thing about it, wanting the conclusion of 17 agencies to go down as the official record.

It's amazing that the physical fates of the DNC server and the Weiner laptop are publicly unknown, and not even asked about by MSM

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (pV/54)

331 their firm employed him. that's why the firm closed down.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 03:56 PM (rBnYq)

that's what I am asking, what was he doing for them in Ukraine ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (/U6eQ)

332

McCain, what does he say about this?


*Beep* ala Capt. Pike.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (GdWl+)

333 Strozk and Page are singing like birds.
It's the only reason they are still on the payroll.

Posted by: navybrat, chillin' and thrillin' at May 20, 2018 03:58 PM (w7KSn)

334 At DNC women's forum, Hillary Clinton declares Democrats stand for truth, evidence and facts
------------------
And they sit for rising black employment and American citizens murdered by illegals.

Posted by: Mega at May 20, 2018 03:58 PM (rv0Fo)

335 TREAT HER LIKE A LADY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmXkFyH2Vl0

Posted by: The Cornelius Brothers w/ Sister Rose at May 20, 2018 04:00 PM (ndLr/)

336 Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 03:56 PM (rBnYq)
+++++
NAH!!!, That Podesta Firm is dirtier than Manafort

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:00 PM (y3aQB)

337 Odd how some of the key players have been silent lately, huh?

No more quotes from Comey or Brennan. I guess all that shit doesn't pass muster with their defense attorneys.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 04:00 PM (J5Nd5)

338 Food thread always makes me hungry. Can we talk about snail sex or something else?

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 04:02 PM (UdKB7)

339 Posted by: navybrat, chillin' and thrillin' at May 20, 2018 03:58 PM (w7KSn)
++++
Page got fired about 10 days ago Strzok is still singing as is Priestap

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:03 PM (y3aQB)

340 that's what I am asking, what was he doing for them in Ukraine ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 03:57 PM (/U6eQ)
========================Can't recall; it's ancient history anyway (ten years ago). Ask google, not me. Something faintly nefarious, in partnership with other bad people. The DOJ investigated it at the time and decided not to indict, but Mueller changed that judgment so as to pressure Manafort/Gates (as Judge Ellis noted). But where are their original co-defendants?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:04 PM (rBnYq)

341 And given the Cohen and Manafort precedents, I think Trump/Sessions should be ordering DOJ no-knock raids on Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS.

Seize their files, computers and put yellow tape around their offices. Incidentally they would of course be totally shut down for business, forced to spend a fortune to laywer up while watching all their clients jump like rats off a sinking ship.

Play by their rules.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 20, 2018 04:04 PM (koNhm)

342 I find the food thread depressing, since I don't have the cooking gene.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:04 PM (sdi6R)

343
292 Eglin AFB not Elgin
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 03:49 PM


Thanks for the correction, Weasel.

I was about to have to get a bit pedantic, as an 11 year veteran of VPS!

Posted by: Spun and Murky at May 20, 2018 04:05 PM (4DCSq)

344 "Strozk and Page are singing like birds. "

Singing to whom?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 20, 2018 04:05 PM (H8QX8)

345 A real tell will be if the MSM talking heads ignore Trump's tweet storm.

The only angle I can see is they're claiming that the President shouldn't order DOJ investigations of political opponents, and avoid any discussion of the merits of Trump's charges.

The dumb ones will double down on Trump's being paranoid crazy, and how can he negotiate with Fat Boy while carrying our nuclear football.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:06 PM (pV/54)

346 Pint being Ace, the email conversation was a pretext for an op that was already conceived or partially in motion.

I don't think we know everything yet.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (J5Nd5)

347 "It's amazing that the physical fates of the DNC server and the Weiner laptop are publicly unknown, and not even asked about by MSM"

i have a strong suspicion that everyone, including the media, knows where they are and who is sifting through them

Posted by: artemis at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (AwPyG)

348 Can't recall; it's ancient history anyway (ten years ago). Ask google, not me. Something faintly nefarious, in partnership with other bad people. The DOJ investigated it at the time and decided not to indict, but Mueller changed that judgment so as to pressure Manafort/Gates (as Judge Ellis noted). But where are their original co-defendants?

=

you brought it up , not google, that is why I asked you. I recall Manafort's work with one of the Ukranian parties during their elections, and then - as a separate matter, Podestas working with someone there, but do not recall Manafort working or being employed by Podesta for his work with Ukraine, or being in any way tied to Podesta.

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (/U6eQ)

349 "As soon as Ben Shapiro white knighted and started masturbating to fantasies of reattaching Michelle Fields arm back in place I knew I could never take him seriously about anything again."

Yes, that did it for me too. Mind boggling bad judgment. Like a little kid.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (H8QX8)

350 The Russians owned the ISP Hillary's private server used to get to the internet, via a Luxembourg cut out company, so every single email she sent or received flowed through a Kremlin owned gateway before it got to its intended destination.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter
------------------------------


Man o Manischewitz that sounds delicious.
Will you share a citation of that?

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (A4DFu)

351 The Michele Fields thing was just like the Chelsea! thing and the Meghan McCain thing and now the meghan markle thing--they are trying to find a person to be a celebrity rallying-point

Posted by: artemis at May 20, 2018 04:11 PM (AwPyG)

352 It's amazing that the same splooge-covered laptop that houses secrets which can take down the Clinton-Obama-Brennan-Comey Cabal houses a collection of mini-me Weiner dick pics.

Shit you can't make up.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:13 PM (pV/54)

353 A fitting repository.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 04:13 PM (A4DFu)

354 Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 04:09 PM (A4DFu)
==========================

It was from this site I learned it, back years ago when the events surrounding Hillary's server were first unfolding. It'll take some time to find again.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:15 PM (rBnYq)

355 Why does everyone assume that it was only the Russians who hacked Hillary's emails? or the DNC server? There are dozens of other players with sufficient capability to do so - why wouldn't they?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at May 20, 2018 04:15 PM (o7l6R)

356 What the Reagan Campaign did was try to get the inside scoop on Carter policy. Every campaign does that--and every reporter, too, Reagan was just trying to win an election, not rig one. So don't let them tell you 'Everyone does it.' Bullshit.

Reagan wasn't trying to wiretap and frame Jimmy Carter and Carter wasn't trying to wiretap and frame Reagan. There is a connection, though; Hillary got the "RUSSIA!"-hoax model from the Iranian October Surprise-hoax.

President Trump was wrong about one thing, though. He recently said the Mueller probe was one year old. The Mueller Hoax is merely a continuation of Brennan/Comey Coup cooked up in the Oval Office over two years ago.

Watergate was a footnote compared to this seditious conspiracy. And unlike Watergate, the #FakeNews today are helping the perps tape the door locks, erase the audio tapes and craft the Inoperative Statements.

And now they're twisting slowly, slowly in the wind.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 20, 2018 04:19 PM (Ndje9)

357 "And given the Cohen and Manafort precedents, I think Trump/Sessions should be ordering DOJ no-knock raids on Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS"

that this hasn't happened makes me feel like a second class citizen.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:21 PM (sB8d1)

358 356 The Gipper Lives

I like it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 20, 2018 04:21 PM (hyuyC)

359 you brought it up , not google, that is why I asked
you. I recall Manafort's work with one of the Ukranian parties during
their elections, and then - as a separate matter, Podestas working with
someone there, but do not recall Manafort working or being employed by
Podesta for his work with Ukraine, or being in any way tied to Podesta.

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 04:08 PM (/U6eQ)
First, it hardly matters at all what they were doing together. But since you care, here's the first link that popped up in the thousands of returned hits. Just do your own search and you will no doubt find hours of happy reading.

https://tinyurl.com/y8qmtryz

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Vigilance Committee supporter at May 20, 2018 04:21 PM (rBnYq)

360 "The FBI has repeatedly lied about the origins of this "investigation." First it was sparked by the Steele Dossier. When the highly dubious and partisan nature of the document was revealed, they edited their story to claim it all originated with this Papadopolous mention of the emails to Downer."

someone bragging about having the emails that hillary lost sparks an investigation into *that* person?

what?

This makes no sense.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:22 PM (sB8d1)

361 Also, to be honest, hasn't every deepstate swamp creature known this day was coming once Trump won the election?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:23 PM (sB8d1)

362 One fib we were sold is that no one hacked Hillary's home brew secret server, But it was only because of hack of Sid Vicious that turned up an e-mail from that server that publicly disclosed HRC was using that server.

Another fib was that it was only the Russians that could have hacked the DNC and Podesta. FFS, Podesta himself got phished, and there's evidence that the DNC hack had to be an inside job because of the recorded download speed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:25 PM (pV/54)

363 "I still don't see how mentioning the emails to anyone could be grounds to begin an investigation -- everyone was speculating about the idea that Russians had the emails for months; it was one of the reasons people said Clinton should be indicted -- and I'd like Ben Shapiro to explain that to me."

lol. and mueller wanted to question trump about his public joke about "if anyone has the emails...maybe russia? let us know" as if that's crime.

The underlying, insane, idea that talking to foreigners who may have dirt on someone is somehow bad itself has to be demolished.

I watched SNL last night, and the 4 minutes of it that were watchable were...meh...but the trump stuff, they're -get this- all in on the idea that merely meeting with russians, is itself evil.

uhhh, what a world they weave...

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:26 PM (sB8d1)

364 Tony Podesta left the firm on October 30, 2017, after finding out about increased scrutiny of the firm
+++++
the Podesta Group is mentioned in the indictment as one of the companies that lobbied on behalf of the Ukrainian government for Manafort and Gates. On that day, Tony Podesta stepped down as head of the Podesta Group.[15]

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:26 PM (y3aQB)

365 "FS, Podesta himself got phished, and there's evidence that the DNC hack had to be an inside job because of the recorded download speed."

first, obviously you owe an apology to all 17 intel agencies who devoted untold hours investigating this...you're clearly anti-intellgience community.

second, mueller hasn't looked into any of this because he was never interested in it.

there needs to be a special counsel to audit the first special counsel.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:27 PM (sB8d1)

366 Also, to be honest, hasn't every deepstate swamp creature known this day was coming once Trump won the election?

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:23 PM
-----------------
I bet they thought it would never come out this quick and that rosenstien and meuller would stall and stall long enough for the Statue of Limitations clock to run out and everyone would say....never mind.

Either that or they thought hillary was such a lock to win that they didn't even think that far ahead.

If I was strozk or some other high ranking FBI/DOJ guy that was in on this plot I would have ran to the IG and thrown myself on their mercy asking for immunity to spill my guts.

But that's just me and I would have never got involved in anything like this in the first place.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 04:29 PM (+Dllb)

367 "question trump about his public joke about "if anyone has the emails...maybe russia? let us know" "

And Katy Tur immediately asked Trump "doesn't that give you pause that you're consorting with a foreign government." The joke went over her tits.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:30 PM (pV/54)

368 I believe Devin Nunes outsmarted Rat Rosenstein by turning down the Friday meeting (w/DOJ). Furthermore, Nunes is correct...Rat Rosenstein had no intention of giving Nunes the info he was seeking regarding the August 17 memo to Mueller clarifying his "role" vis-a-vis his SC powers.

Nunes rightly has come to the conclusion that the meeting was merely cover for the NYT & WaPo cover stories....that the FBI/DOJ were spying on the Trump campaign in order to save us from ourselves, or whatever this idiocy is that the MsM is trying to push. Obviously, nothing has changed regarding selective leaking from DOJ/FBI deep state operators. Do you smell desperation? I do.

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:30 PM (y3aQB)

369 The joke couldn't have gone over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would have caught it.

Posted by: Katy Tur's Tits at May 20, 2018 04:31 PM (pV/54)

370 "FS, Podesta himself got phished, and there's evidence that the DNC hack had to be an inside job because of the recorded download speed."
++++
Zombie Seth Rich applauds vociferously

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:32 PM (y3aQB)

371 Podesta himself got phished, and there's evidence that the DNC hack had to be an inside job because of the recorded download speed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:25 PM (pV/54)

It wasn't recorded download speed, it was file write times. That evidence is inconclusive, as the files could be downloaded to a device, and then copied locally to give that evidence of write times.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 04:32 PM (Dp6qK)

372 And Katy Tur immediately asked Trump "doesn't that give you pause that you're consorting with a foreign government." The joke went over her tits.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:30 PM (pV/54)

-

It would be interesting to know when they were given the story.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at May 20, 2018 04:34 PM (VgKNm)

373 Unless sessions unrecuses himself, his recusal specifically removes him from "all matters" dealing w the "elections." That's why wittes referenced rosenstein and wray; they would be the "investigators," G-d help us.

Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 04:35 PM (OLS0m)

374
TheLastRefuge
Finally!! #TheBigUgly

The zippo is airborne..

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:35 PM (y3aQB)

375 Unless sessions unrecuses himself, his recusal specifically removes him from "all matters" dealing w the "elections." That's why wittes referenced rosenstein and wray; they would be the "investigators," G-d help us.
+++
have you done any reading about Jon Huber??

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:36 PM (y3aQB)

376 @371 I stand corrected.

But at best the Russians are suspects. Someone here said that it's like coming home to find a burgled home with a strange empty can of Fosters in the hallway, and then saying the Aussies did it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:36 PM (pV/54)

377 I continue to believe that the best punishment for Ex-President Cock-Curious would be to spend the rest of his life stranded on a deserted island with only Mooch as company.

Likewise Hillary stranded with Bill. No underaged pussy available for Bill and no alcohol for Hillary.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2018 04:37 PM (+BKF+)

378 isn't this, in a way, an attempt by trump to obstruct justice...I mean, right?

--the SNL,NYT,CNN writers' rooms, all at once.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:37 PM (sB8d1)

379 >>Likewise Hillary stranded with Bill. No underaged pussy available for Bill and no alcohol for Hillary.


And no lube for the Obamas.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 04:38 PM (ndLr/)

380 But at best the Russians are suspects. Someone here said that it's like coming home to find a burgled home with a strange empty can of Fosters in the hallway, and then saying the Aussies did it."

yeah, even worse than that...or maybe just like that...there's plenty of spoofing software out there, so easy a caveman can use it.

It's like saying clark kent couldn't be superman because superman doesn't wear glasses.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:39 PM (sB8d1)

381 Brennan responds with a warning to Yertle and Eddie Munster:

https://tinyurl.com/ybtvvz83

Shit's getting real.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 20, 2018 04:39 PM (4ErVI)

382 trump's order to investigate spying on his campaign should conflict out rosenstein as well. maybe also mueller.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:42 PM (sB8d1)

383 381
Brennan responds with a warning to Yertle and Eddie Munster:



https://tinyurl.com/ybtvvz83



Shit's getting real.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 20, 2018 04:39 PM (4ErVI)

The orwellian mentality of Brennan is amazing.
His corruption being exposed is a threat to democracy!?

Posted by: muckrack at May 20, 2018 04:44 PM (RbR1e)

384 Brennan responds with a warning to Yertle and Eddie Munster:



https://tinyurl.com/ybtvvz83



Shit's getting real.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 20, 2018 04:39 PM
----------------------------
He also sent a veiled threat to Trump in a tweet where he referenced Cicero:
"Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.

Marcus Tullius Cicero, (106-43 BC)"
Cicero was assassinated for speaking up about the corrupt Emperors of Rome and wanted a return to the Republican style of Government.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (+Dllb)

385 Likewise Hillary stranded with Bill. No underaged pussy available for Bill and no alcohol for Hillary.

Put em on an island together. Bill and Hill and Barry and Hairy.

Posted by: Shep at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (UdKB7)

386 @381 Brennan's tweet in full:

"Senator McConnell & Speaker Ryan: If Mr. Trump continues along this disastrous path, you will bear major responsibility for the harm done to our democracy. You do a great disservice to our Nation & the Republican Party if you continue to enable Mr. Trump's self-serving actions."

Why is this addressed to McConnell and Ryan?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (pV/54)

387 Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (+Dllb)
++++
that is why the VSG PDT has his own security detail

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (y3aQB)

388
Why is this addressed to McConnell and Ryan?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (pV/54)

Partners in crime?

Posted by: muckrack at May 20, 2018 04:47 PM (RbR1e)

389 Why is this addressed to McConnell and Ryan?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (pV/54)

He has dirt on them.

Ryan is resigning. McConnell chi-com dirt is out. Is there more?

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 04:49 PM (Dp6qK)

390 "Senator McConnell & Speaker Ryan: If Mr. Trump continues along this disastrous path, you will bear major responsibility for the harm done to our democracy. You do a great disservice to our Nation & the Republican Party if you continue to enable Mr. Trump's self-serving actions."

wow, he needs a better lawyer. he should remain silent, as it is within his rights.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:50 PM (sB8d1)

391 yeah, can someone tweet that to him?

"you need a better lawyer. You should remain silent, as it is within your rights"

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:51 PM (sB8d1)

392 Why is this addressed to McConnell and Ryan?

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 04:46 PM (pV/54)

Yeah, what's with that?

The DOJ is not in Congress' bailiwick.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 20, 2018 04:52 PM (8iiMU)

393 "He also sent a veiled threat to Trump in a tweet where he referenced Cicero:"

The benefits of a classical education.

Posted by: Zombie Hans Gruber at May 20, 2018 04:53 PM (pV/54)

394 Brennan's afraid they'll reveal his plan to make Islam the official state religion.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 20, 2018 04:53 PM (gm9yG)

395 The DOJ is not in Congress' bailiwick.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 20, 2018 04:52 PM (8iiMU)

Oversight is, as is committee assignments, and impeachment proceedings.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 04:53 PM (Dp6qK)

396 Brennan is making a lot of public thinly-veiled threats of late.

Someone should tweet/ask him whether he will be taking the fall for Bronco.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 04:54 PM (Dp6qK)

397 *adds Brennan to list of people whose graves will be pissed on before I go*

Posted by: Sharkman at May 20, 2018 04:55 PM (+BKF+)

398 384
He also sent a veiled threat to Trump in a tweet where he referenced Cicero:
"Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.

Marcus Tullius Cicero, (106-43 BC)"
Cicero was assassinated for speaking up about the corrupt Emperors of Rome and wanted a return to the Republican style of Government.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 04:45 PM (+Dllb)


Sure sounds like a threat to me. Is that actionable?

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 04:55 PM (sdi6R)

399 rudy says comey should be prosecuted? sure, sure...get em all. Give them the Flynn treatment,.

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 04:55 PM (sB8d1)

400 392 The DOJ is not in Congress' bailiwick.

I thought brennan was suggesting impeachment/conviction. which is a scary thought to think former head of the spooks is directing Congress to impeach a President.

Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 04:59 PM (OLS0m)

401 I thought brennan was suggesting impeachment/conviction. which is a scary thought to think former head of the spooks is directing Congress to impeach a President.

Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 04:59 PM (OLS0m)

It is status quo for the IC, says Schumer.


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/ 312605-schumer-trump-being- really-dumb-by-going-after-intelligence-community

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 05:04 PM (Dp6qK)

402 >>He also sent a veiled threat to Trump in a tweet where he referenced Cicero:
"Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.

Marcus Tullius Cicero, (106-43 BC)"
Cicero was assassinated for speaking up about the corrupt Emperors of Rome and wanted a return to the Republican style of Government.




Holy sh#t that is messed up.
I would think Brennan's call to Ryan and McConnell may be veiled so only they know what he really means (given spying on Trump, is it too much of a leap that he and Obama have the goods on them too? In hindsight, sure looks like Bob Menendez was burned for fighting the Iran deal).

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 05:04 PM (W+vEI)

403 Brennan is a useful idiot.

He is exactly the type to not know that he is nothing more tha a Tool and as such he is disposable / replaceable.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2018 05:06 PM (ndLr/)

404 As expected, MSM spin is that Trump is improperly asking the DOJ to attack his political enemies. Avoid the merits.

NYT is already ballistic.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 05:07 PM (pV/54)

405 This is interesting to: Carter Page tweeted Halper and included screenshot of an email from him. Think he's telling him he has documented all of their contact?

https://twitter.com/carterwpage/status/
998131289063591936

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 05:09 PM (W+vEI)

406 If they were really worried about who ended up with Hillary's e-mails they would have arrested Hillary for letting so many people, down to the lowliest pervert in NYC, have access to them.

The only interest I think they really have in the e-mails is that there will likely be a lot of stuff that they allowed Hillary to scrub which would come to light if someone else had them. The Russians knowing all of that and using it against us is one thing. But Trump having it and exposing them is another. They would do anything to stop that from happening (especially during a campaign) since it would threaten their cozy, incestuous clique, and nothing is more important to them than their own comfort and power. It had to really shake them to have thousands of people chanting, "lock her up!" Everyone involved in the wrongdoing had a stake in those e-mails staying hidden, or getting out in front of the news if they were found and that can lead to desperate actions.

Once they started investigating a presidential campaign there was no going back and it snowballed after that point. So I guess maybe that is an additional theory of how this all happened to go with the idea that it was all just a pretext and set-up from the start. I am not sure which I believe. Maybe some of both depending on who the player is in the farce. But it seems like there could certainly be more than one motivation at work here. At the very least it helps explain why they chose such a flimsy and ridiculous pretext to justify spying.

They are telling us what they were afraid of, just lying about why. They feared Trump having that information more than they did Putin having it because if Trump had it we would have it, and that just wouldn't do at all.

Posted by: thatch at May 20, 2018 05:09 PM (DVIuX)

407 "404 As expected, MSM spin is that Trump is improperly asking the DOJ to attack his political enemies. Avoid the merits.

NYT is already ballistic."

well, duh, we're at war here. The left's usual insanity, projection, is at play as they're incensed at someone allegedly doing that which they know they've done.

step 1. deny you spied on trump
step 2. ok, fine, admit you spied on trump
step 3. whoa, you can't investigate your political opponents!

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 05:10 PM (sB8d1)

408 I have been calling for Trump to do this from the get go.

Once Sessions recused himself and Obama appointee Rosenstein assumes the role of AG, you knew these fucks would stonewall any attempts to properly investigate themselves.

What I see happening is Trump states issuing EOs, the FIB and DOJ tell him to go poundsand, Trump shit cans Sessions and Rosenstein, he names someone already confirmed as AG and away we go.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 20, 2018 05:12 PM (UfMVm)

409 >>NYT is already ballistic."


Have to assume this is exactly what Trump wants - he's been playing them via twitter for over a year now. LOL!

Recall how he first tweeted about the wiretapping a little before 4:00am on a Saturday morning. He's just now messed up the Sunday of the MSM who are no doubt scrambling to counter him.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 20, 2018 05:14 PM (W+vEI)

410 As expected, MSM spin is that Trump is improperly asking the DOJ to attack his political enemies.

The old 'I Know You Are, But What Am I' gambit: 'Trump was spied on. Wanting to know why is partisan and dishonest.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 20, 2018 05:14 PM (oVJmc)

411 "They feared Trump having that information more than they did Putin having it"

A lot of foreign money got laundered through the Chelsea Legacy Foundation. I haven't found a serious analysis of where that money went. There's evidence that it was used to pre-game Hillary's campaign (e.g. Sid Vicious was on payroll). I suspect bribes were made to D super-delegates who went for Hillary before the campaign started (this made it impossible for a regular candidate to get funding.) And the kids of MSM got cushy jobs.

There's a lot of exposure

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 05:14 PM (pV/54)

412 step 3. whoa, you can't investigate your political opponents!

Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at May 20, 2018 05:10 PM (sB8d1)

It's "just for their own safety"...

Posted by: muckrack at May 20, 2018 05:15 PM (RbR1e)

413 Trump already has proof in the OIG report and other sources. He doesn't need the DC DOJ.

The jokes on them.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (pV/54)

414 413
Trump already has proof in the OIG report and other sources. He doesn't need the DC DOJ.



The jokes on them.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 05:17 PM (pV/54)

Probably , he works very systematic.

Posted by: muckrack at May 20, 2018 05:19 PM (RbR1e)

415 Have we started the fire?

Posted by: Monk at May 20, 2018 05:21 PM (Wd0WT)

416 As expected, MSM spin is that Trump is improperly asking the DOJ to attack his political enemies.

As I said the other night, the Left is now projecting projection.

Posted by: rickl at May 20, 2018 05:29 PM (sdi6R)

417 As expected, MSM spin is that Trump is improperly asking the DOJ to attack his political enemies. Avoid the merits.

NYT is already ballistic.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 05:07 PM (pV/54)
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Because the Slim Slimes & most of the Boston,NYC & D.C. media is in the deep state's back pocket

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 05:30 PM (y3aQB)

418 Trump shit cans Sessions and Rosenstein, he names someone already confirmed as AG and away we go.
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& this is why you don't have a fucking clue abourt what is happening ! any AG has to be confirmed by Senate

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 05:34 PM (y3aQB)

419 Popcorn futures soar as Big Week begins!

Bring on the Big Ugly!

Posted by: The Garbone at May 20, 2018 05:37 PM (9dH/8)

420 Rosenstein will investigate the investigation he was a part of?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 20, 2018 05:39 PM (oVJmc)

421 They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 05:39 PM (y3aQB)

422 Glenn Greenwald, ace? Yeah, sure, I get it. But c'm9n...

I believe the AoSHQ Stylebook lists Even as Glenn Greenwald's first name. As in 'Even Glenn Greenwald admits ...'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 05:41 PM (yQpMk)

423 I have a vision of Trump sitting down with Mueller and turning tables to lay down a hand of Aces.

"I've known all the dirt on all you corrupt fucks for a year. Guess what, I fired your cocksucking pal Comey because he was the most corrupt fuck to hold major office ever, except for Brennan, and I've got all the dirt on him. And on you. You want me to keep talking under oath? I'll stop, but first ..."

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 05:43 PM (pV/54)

424 http://bit.ly/2LgCqfl
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Tracybeanz on Twitter: "1. I am about to blow your minds with this thread.

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 05:43 PM (y3aQB)

425 "Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.

Marcus Tullius Cicero, (106-43 BC)"



I must admit that I look forward to the day that Chuck Schumer's severed hands are nailed to the doors of the Senate.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 05:45 PM (yQpMk)

426 https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/998242710824869888.html
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Threadreader version is much easier to read

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 05:49 PM (y3aQB)

427 418 & this is why you don't have a fucking clue abourt what is happening ! any AG has to be confirmed by Senate

No the Vacancies Act would permit PDT to place Scott Pruitt in that position (bc he has been Senate confirmed.) And, that's one of the reasons the left has accused Pruitt of malfeasance, his ability to take over the AG position.

Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 05:53 PM (OLS0m)

428 Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 05:53 PM (OLS0m)
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Not if the Head was fired

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 06:05 PM (y3aQB)

429 http://bit.ly/2IA8OaO
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Nunes: If Informant Reporting Is True, It Is a 'Absolute Red Line,' 'This Is Over' | Breitbart

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 06:07 PM (y3aQB)

430 I wonder how close Hillary is to a full on psychotic break. She's not stopped campaigning in years. She's physically coming undone before our eyes. Whatever ailment she suffers from cannot continue to be concealed from the public. Her alcoholism. Her meds. It's all building to a soft sigh, a bottle of pills clattering on a tiled floor and a cold, limp hand dangling from a bed mattress.

And when she does finally faulter and fail? Her lackeys will slip away as the press devour her like a pack of wilding hyena.

And she knows it. All in stark relief.

I'm thirsty. Anyone want a ice cold Fresca?



Posted by: 13times at May 20, 2018 06:27 PM (K3B2k)

431 If I had writing chops I'd write a tale with a set of of the plotters hoist on their own petards. Hillary OD's. Huma runs to the ME and ends up married to a lout cuz no one else would have her. Barky flees to Indonesia and is again shunned by local muslims. Brennan and Clapper in Leavenworth. A bunch of high end journolists are not just fired but sued for slander and end up in places like Minneapolis writing the local fashion and culture columns with assignments like covering the state fair.

Posted by: PaleRider, simply irredeemable at May 20, 2018 06:35 PM (84F5k)

432 This is all so unexpected and shocking. I may need to lie down.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 06:42 PM (/tuJf)

433 432 This is all so unexpected and shocking. I may need to lie down.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 06:42 PM (/tuJf)

Wondering where you went. I figured you'd checked into the mental ward with cognitive dissonance overload.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:43 PM (Dp6qK)

434 Well that was fast....


Rod Rosenstein asks DOJ inspector general to review possible Trump campaign infiltration


http://tinyurl.com/ya4f74ha

Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2018 06:46 PM (Enq6K)

435 Well that was fast....


Rod Rosenstein asks DOJ inspector general to review possible Trump campaign infiltration


http://tinyurl.com/ya4f74ha
Posted by: Tami at May 20, 2018 06:46 PM (Enq6K)


I wonder if Rosie had a "fuck THIS shit" moment this afternoon and is rolling over on The Dem-Media Complex Conspiracy.

Posted by: filbert at May 20, 2018 06:49 PM (953wK)

436 Wondering where you went. I figured you'd checked into the mental ward with cognitive dissonance overload.

Why would I do anything other than I did, have a great day on the ocean watching the Volvo boats head for Europe.

None of this is the least bit surprising. This is exactly what I thought would happen.

You want kabuki? I give you Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions pretending this entire thing isn't staged.

Hint, it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 06:50 PM (/tuJf)

437 I give you Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions pretending this entire thing isn't staged.

Hint, it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2018 06:50 PM (/tuJf)

I think that was my first post in this thread.

Posted by: flounderbot, rebel, vulgarian, deplorabot, winner at May 20, 2018 06:54 PM (Dp6qK)

438 I wonder how close Hillary is to a full on psychotic break. She's not stopped campaigning in years. She's physically coming undone before our eyes. Whatever ailment she suffers from cannot continue to be concealed from the public. Her alcoholism. Her meds. It's all building to a soft sigh, a bottle of pills clattering on a tiled floor and a cold, limp hand dangling from a bed mattress.

And when she does finally faulter and fail? Her lackeys will slip away as the press devour her like a pack of wilding hyena.

Posted by: 13times at May 20, 2018 06:27 PM (K3B2k)

God, what a wonderful scenario. I orgasmed at least twice. I'm going to smoke a cigarette in the after-glow of good sex.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at May 20, 2018 06:55 PM (9BLnV)

439 Apropos of nothing, Bastille Day is comes up in mid-July.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 07:28 PM (Evws/)

440 Avenge me!

Posted by: zombie marilyn monroe at May 20, 2018 07:31 PM (Evws/)

441 I'm so dyslexic I thought he said Misfud and I'm like who is that. So I clicked on a link from TheLibertyDaily and find out it's Mifsud. Well, of course.

Well, he's gone now.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 07:44 PM (8u+2n)

442 While Mifsud's efforts to introduce Papadopoulos to various Russia connections do not necessarily raise any red flag, the same cannot be said of Mifsud's statement that on a trip to Russia they told him they had dirt on Clinton and thousands of her emails.

Posted by: gNewt at May 20, 2018 07:59 PM (8u+2n)

443 Why the urgency on behalf of the IC and their enablers at NYT and WAPO to identify Halper as the spy? Because what Halper did, and who he is, is much easier to defend that what Mifsud did. Mifsud was the set-up man. Halper's role was to be that of the reliable old-hand who discovers that Papadop knew long ago that the Russkies had the harridan's emails (and probably entire copies of her rogue server's hard drives. As did everyone else, by the, including the FBI.) It's a modified limited hangout in which Halper is THE one and only spy, doing God's work.

Posted by: nickk at May 20, 2018 08:08 PM (1CaiA)

444 So, if Trump can't order the DOJ to investigate his "political enemies", aren't they admitting that the DOJ/FBI/Mueller are political?

Posted by: Marc at May 20, 2018 08:09 PM (2lzgF)

445 Rod Rosenstein asks DOJ inspector general to review possible Trump campaign infiltration
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Now how much you waanna bet Michael Horowitz already has the Evidence ?

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 08:23 PM (y3aQB)

446 I think this week is gonna be fun on here

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 08:41 PM (y3aQB)

447 So, if Trump can't order the DOJ to investigate his "political enemies", aren't they admitting that the DOJ/FBI/Mueller are political?
Posted by: Marc at May 20, 2018 08:09 PM (2lzgF)


It is only political if you don't treat the perp as any other nameless faceless who having done the same thing (i.e.: the crime, not the person) would be doing hard time. It is political if you investigate the person without a crime, or not investigate the crime because of the person.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 20, 2018 08:46 PM (Eu5eZ)

448 The "insurance policy" is the SESs dropping nuggets that, like personally picking targets for drone strikes, Obama is behind and running the whole show.

Cannot let Chocolate Jesus go down, that would be "political".
So you got to let his lieutenants go too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 20, 2018 08:49 PM (Eu5eZ)

449 Clearly, the informant is H.R. Pufnstuf

Posted by: SMOD at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (e8kgV)

450 Posted by: SMOD at May 20, 2018 09:13 PM (e8kgV)
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Nah .... The Magic Flute

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 09:15 PM (y3aQB)

451 http://bit.ly/2KFEbBu
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Stelter Says He Didn't Vote For Hillary | The Daily Caller

Posted by: NOTHING IS GONNA HAPPEN at May 20, 2018 09:17 PM (y3aQB)

452 Nothing of consequence will happen.
No one of any importance will be arrested or even held accountable.
There will be plenty of sturm und drang, furious tweeting, fulmination by Ingraham and Hannity, slam-dunk reporting by Sara, etc etc. But no one of any consequence will pay any price.
A thought experiment: Try to imagine going online and learning that Hilary Clinton has been indicted for destroying 30000 emails that were under subpoena. Can you? No, you love to entertain the idea in the abstract, but you know, sadly, that cannot and will not ever happen.
Don't fool yourself. Some people are above the law. You aren't, but some are. And they know it.
How utterly convenient that we have the most invisible, somnolent and ineffective AG in memory.

Posted by: Major1 at May 20, 2018 10:00 PM (oohAZ)

453 For DECADES people like me have pointed out the demorats have appointed and tainted American agencies to full leftist polarizations, while occasionally pretending it was the Republicans were doing such to coverup just how bad the demorats were corrupting our government. Kicking out Christians, appointing czars and jihad muslims to positions of power and invasions of our highest secrets. How long it take us to move beyond useful/denial fools ? ? ?
Demorats investigating demorat abuses of power to investigate Trump and frame him for what demorats are openly known to have done ? URANIUM 1 ?

Posted by: ron n. at May 20, 2018 11:34 PM (MBrFx)

454 "wartime consigliere"
God almighty. If people could please just shut-up with "Godfather" references already.
God Almighty what an almost stupid movie. God almighty, to just hear references to it as being something *profound*. "Wartime consigliere!" Oh. My. God! That is almost not profound! What the FUCK. Do. You. Mean. By. That?
No, seriously. What. The. FUCK. Do. You. Mean. By. That?

In the world of US politics out of the White House, the way Donald Trump rolls, what the fuck does "wartime consigliere" mean? Or is it just a bunch of internet guys trying to sound tough, yet wise?
Well - I know this the ultimate willow of being willowed, but what. do. you. mean?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 21, 2018 01:26 AM (0QYMt)

The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect: A Wikipedia Corollary

When I was a wee lad, cutting my conservative teeth baiting hippies and fighting with communists on the streets of Berkeley, I lived in student cooperative housing. Since placement was based on seniority, I lived for the first two years in the least desirable and largest place, called Barrington Hall. It has been closed for years; a result off awful management on the part of the socialist organization that ran it, and dumb ass college students being allowed to do pretty much whatever they wanted.

In its defense, I met a lot of very interesting and intelligent people there, one of whom is a dear friend. And there was also a lot of free sex and nudity and punk rock and booze and all sorts of other stuff that appealed to the less high-minded part of my psyche. Anyway, I wanted to look up one of my acquaintances from Barrington, so I started poking around the internet, and discovered that there is a Wiki page devoted to it. As I read it I was immediately reminded of this:

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
-- Michael Crichton

I am as guilty as many of turning to the easy research of Wikipedia for many things. And while I am aware of its crowd-sourced nature, and its political bent, and most of all its famous inaccuracies, it is an effortless and lazy shortcut.

But the absolute drivel written about a place in which I lived for two years was astounding. Dates were wrong, events were reported badly, or ignored or made up from whole cloth. And this is not an overtly political topic, one that I assumed would have some passing familiarity with the truth! It was an amazing experience, having the world's portable encyclopedia revealed to be completely full of shit.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 You mean to say that wet streets don't cause rain?

Posted by: Clueless Journalists at May 20, 2018 11:56 AM (WU8si)

2 The loss of Michael Crichton still saddens me. An extremely insightful and wise man.

Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 11:57 AM (OLS0m)

3 And also a topic for which mostly nobody cares. Which likely explains the lack of accuracy. To say that everything on Wikipedia is as filled with errors as a page inexplicably dedicated to "Barrington Hall" is quite a stretch.

I guess I'll have to look up the dorms at VA Tech to see how much of the super important history they've got wrong on that topic, too.

Or something.

Posted by: deadrody at May 20, 2018 11:58 AM (jsGbO)

4 The trees blowing back and forth? That's what causes the wind.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2018 11:58 AM (gC2IV)

5 Hordesource>Wiki

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 11:58 AM (UdKB7)

6 Wikipedia is almost always wrong, and impossible to correct

Posted by: Anderson's Pooper at May 20, 2018 11:59 AM (UkiAG)

7 Wiki, feh.

Posted by: Snopes at May 20, 2018 11:59 AM (r9UYA)

8 This is how I feel when I see shows about Home decor, shows like "Open House". Ugh!! So many people have taste from hunger. Having no taste is better than bad taste.

And shows on woodworking and restoration, usually good for a chuckle.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 12:01 PM (Ymy4N)

9 I once worked on a public service project (in this case, not court ordered) which was reported on by the Washington Post. The paper managed to get every possible fact wrong in the resulting article. Every. Single. Fact.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:02 PM (Uqz+J)

10 We're even more accurate than Wikipedia.

Posted by: CNN at May 20, 2018 12:02 PM (WU8si)

11 I have to wonder if Wikipedia doesn't amplify the Dunning-Kruger effect. Stupid people look shit up on wikipedia and think that they have a thorough understanding of the issue.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 20, 2018 12:03 PM (Tnhbr)

12 3 Someone pee in your cheerios? Lighten up Francis.

Posted by: rammajamma at May 20, 2018 12:03 PM (xceTB)

13 Interesting that Sharyl Atkission was telling ppl to beware the bias/falsity on Wikipedia today, too.

Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 12:03 PM (OLS0m)

14 Posted by: Ever at May 20, 2018 12:03 PM (OLS0m)

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Someone was saying the same thing on the internet? That never happens.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 20, 2018 12:05 PM (gC2IV)

15 The Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is quite prevalent *here* when some Horde-person goes off on a rant about something they read from a news source. Not always, but far too often to be comfortable, it gets revealed that the article or headline are completely wrong.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Purify Your Politics with Cleansing Fire! AtC Brand Flammenwerfers now at The Outrage Ou at May 20, 2018 12:07 PM (0QYMt)

16 I had this experience working at ATT/Bellsouth during and after the breakup of the parent company. Every single thing I read in the papers about the breakup and what was going on inside it was partially, mostly or completely wrong. I then noticed this was true about anything else I happened to know anything about. That's when I decided journalists are mostly lazy idiots that will twist a story or just make things up to match their preferred narrative.

Posted by: Ripley at May 20, 2018 12:07 PM (MxEKc)

17 I've solved the problem by not reading the newspaper ...

YMMV.

Posted by: Adriane the Literary Critic ... at May 20, 2018 12:07 PM (AoK0a)

18
Fook off, iPhone. All my brilliant snark lost, like tears in the rain ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:08 PM (pNxlR)

19 Wikipedia is extremley acucrate. You raycissts just can't handle the fackts, like that Obmama was the graetest Presidentt evur and the singal payer healthcare werks.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 20, 2018 12:09 PM (WU8si)

20
Snow jumping out of the way creates a vacuum which propels snowplows down the road.

True. Science. Fact.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:10 PM (pNxlR)

21 Wikipedia was never meant to be based in fact. It was meant to disseminate leftist propaganda and disinformation. It has turned out to be a very effective tool.

Posted by: Soona at May 20, 2018 12:11 PM (Fs5vw)

22 I need to invent Weaselpedia.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (MVjcR)

23 I use Wikipedia primarily not so much for the truth of its content but rather to understand allusions. Thus if someone refers to Joe McCarthy's HUAC and I don't know what it is I loom it up and learn what people think they are talking about rather than the actual truth.

Incidentally, there have been a plethora of Audible audio books entitled [Whatever]: A History From Beginning To End that are quite short. For example, here is The Byzantine Empire: A History From Beginning To End. It one hour nine minutes long. I suspect they left some stuff out.

https://adbl.co/2rT5OPQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (+y/Ru)

24 CBD - spot on. Digital revisionism feeds the faux superiority of the clinically insane. See Dunning-Krueger effect. And if you disagree with their utopian house of cards, you are a poopy head.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (uB9t9)

25 I start reading USA Yesterday and by the 3rd or 5th paragraph the writing is dead wrong about some subject. I think this is also called the Fox Butterfield syndrome.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (JFO2v)

26 "But the absolute drivel written about a place in which I lived for two years was astounding. Dates were wrong, events were reported badly, or ignored or made up from whole cloth."
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This has the ring of truth to me:

"Resident complains not fit for habitability. Live boa constrictor, fire, dried blood on her door, food and burning matches thrown at dinner, person wandering through halls brandishing a whip and striking the walls with it."

This is you, isn't it CBD? In bondage leathers with a boa coiled around you, cracking a cat-o-nine-tails at the Squares.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (qJtVm)

27 22 I need to invent Weaselpedia.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (MVjcR)

Ted Turner beat you to it

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (JFO2v)

28 Why does my hash keep changing? Look at 9 and 22.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)

29 I generally find Wikipedia to be accurate in the non-controversial subjects I know about, like chemistry and mathematics. When it comes to controversial subjects, it's about as trustworthy as Whoopi Goldberg.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (nvMvs)

30 22 I need to invent Weaselpedia.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (MVjcR)
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"If you enjoyed this WeaselPage on the history of WASP appropriation of the sombrero, won't you please consider donating?"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 12:14 PM (qJtVm)

31 28 Why does my hash keep changing? Look at 9 and 22.


Think you got some bad hash. Looks stepped on.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 20, 2018 12:15 PM (uB9t9)

32 This wiki entry seems pretty solid:

"The book describes the actions and interactions of a group of highly mobile dogs, who operate cars and other conveyances in pursuit of work, play, and a final mysterious goal: a dog party."

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 12:15 PM (UdKB7)

33 When i was in college, distinctly remember a professor breathlessly regaling us with the 'fact' that the Boeing 747 was so big and complex that they truly didn't fully understand why it actually flew. Even though i was clueless and meek, i still didn't buy that argument.. which meant i started to wonder about my professor's 'expertise'....... and a conservative was born.


Posted by: goatexchange at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (YFnq5)

34 All Hail Eris,

Two weeks ago I was in Pure (the Yooper part) Michigan. There was still a lot of ice on Lake Superior and in most of the harbors. The Keweenaw Peninsula also had a lot of snow in the woods. Fortunately the skeeters and black flies weren't out yet. The U.P. is one of the most beautiful parts of the country.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (9UFns)

35 30 22 I need to invent Weaselpedia.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:12 PM (MVjcR)
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"If you enjoyed this WeaselPage on the history of WASP appropriation of the sombrero, won't you please consider donating?"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 12:14 PM (qJtVm)
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Which reminds me, people,sti
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Yes! Do this! The tractor needs implements!

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (MVjcR)

36 When i was in college, distinctly remember a professor breathlessly regaling us with the 'fact' that the Boeing 747 was so big and complex that they truly didn't fully understand why it actually flew.

=

physics professor ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (/U6eQ)

37 Folks like to say that conservatives need their own Twitter, Facebook, etc. But when they do create them,those same people don't use them. Try Infogalactic, which can be corrected and mirrors Wikipedia with out the SJW slant.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 20, 2018 12:17 PM (Lqy/e)

38 Copy/paste fail at 35. Sorry.

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:18 PM (MVjcR)

39 When i was in college, distinctly remember a professor breathlessly regaling us with the 'fact' that the Boeing 747 was so big and complex that they truly didn't fully understand why it actually flew.

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My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)

40 Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (9UFns)
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I'm a troll, but I do want to take a tour of the wilder shaggier parts of the U.P., plus do some island hopping around the Great Lakes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 12:20 PM (qJtVm)

41 I have a daughter attending the local tech school (community college) Even they will not accept Wikipedia "articles".

Posted by: lurking grandma at May 20, 2018 12:20 PM (sujqA)

42 'physics professor'?

fortunately, no. the Hard Science profs were awesome. it was the social sciency-types who were expounding on topics about which they were clueless.....a trend i first noticed then, and it hasn't let up.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 20, 2018 12:20 PM (YFnq5)

43 The stuff the MSM makes up about is Hillary is fake but accurate, like her love and dedication to her husband. After all they danced romantically together on the beach and they have a video to prove it.

Posted by: Ripley at May 20, 2018 12:21 PM (MxEKc)

44 28 Why does my hash keep changing? Look at 9 and 22.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)

It changes because there is really more than one Weasel (if that's even your real name) which are all part of a secret society known as the Weasellumanati whose goal is to crash websites which they don't like the color scheme of by overwhelming them with comments from users named "Weasel".

Or at least that's what Wikipedia said.

Posted by: Weaselspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2018 12:21 PM (WU8si)

45 .. i am SO STEALING that 'junk yard/747' analogy.....

Posted by: goatexchange at May 20, 2018 12:21 PM (YFnq5)

46 I once found myself on the Wikipedia page for Rudyard Kipling. There was a whole paragraph devoted to an essay on South Pacific candy that some contributor falsely attributed to Kipling. Seems they had misinterpreted the meaning of Wiki Tiki Taffy.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:22 PM (m45I2)

47 My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.

==

sigh

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:23 PM (/U6eQ)

48 I've been a spokesperson on and off for a while. For five years that was a core party of my job with some fairly technical subject matter.

I found the weeklies did the best job. Put in the most effort to get things right.

The dailies were hit or miss. I was happy if they got 2/3 right.

The absolute worst was Time magazine back when that was a thing. It was a hostile interview and I was just being called (by the reporter's assistant, no less) for the obligatory counterpoint in a hit piece that was already written.

The NYT and WaPo also gave me s a few hostile interviews but they were more professional and balanced in the 90s (and it wasn't political).

More recently I had a fine interview with an informed NYT writer on some downstream energy issues. At the same time and on the same topic, the WSJ was very disappointing going for the scary headline and take counter to the facts I laid out very clearly.

The funniest ting was about 10-15 years ago I was part of a refinery tour with the Tribunes harvard educated energy reporter. Downtown fashions and alligator boots and didn't understand ethanol and fuel and the RFS for a pub based in Illinois.

At the same tour a couple of guys from the big regional paper declined the $5 pens they were offered on ethical grounds. I took the pens. You want to influence my story a freaking pen isn't going to make that happen

Posted by: Keith at May 20, 2018 12:23 PM (USf3s)

49 Wiki Tiki Taffy > Stallone's Cobra.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 20, 2018 12:23 PM (YFnq5)

50 I have a daughter attending the local tech school (community college) Even they will not accept Wikipedia "articles".
Posted by: lurking grandma at May 20, 2018 12:20 PM (sujqA)


It's not a bad starting point; most of the articles list their citations. Citing the article itself, instead of using the bibliography as a jumping-off point for your own research is a mistake though, even if the school would accept the citation. And for whatever reason, any Wikipedia article on a technical subject is useless beyond the surface level. They're just terribly written.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 20, 2018 12:23 PM (y87Qq)

51 >>>>
The loss of Michael Crichton still saddens me. An extremely insightful and wise man.....And an excellent fiction writer too.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 12:23 PM (+Dllb)

52 fortunately, no. the Hard Science profs were awesome.

=

glad to hear. people take social sciences to breeze throught with "A"s, then end up with mush in their heads

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:25 PM (/U6eQ)

53 My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)


Interesting analogy

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 20, 2018 12:25 PM (czkHE)

54 having the world's portable encyclopedia revealed to be completely full of shit.

But it will continue to show up as the first link for any search about pretty much anything, if not the first several links. There's no way to get away from it. It's friggin annoying.

That said, it is a good resource for lots of textbook-type material - hard science textbook material. But I always endeavor to go another link first - any other link.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 12:25 PM (uSurQ)

55 Probably most of my professors would be aghast that the library, where most original sources are found, are not really used anymore.

If you really want to know the facts, go to the library, not the internet.

Posted by: Soona at May 20, 2018 12:25 PM (Fs5vw)

56
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (9UFns)


Yeah, keep that to yourself, eh? Whenever the locals crow about the U.P. scoring high in some destination survey or another I cringe. The same boosters then get their undies all wadded up when some Developer Warbucks out of Chicago declares for building high rise condos near the lakeshore because (s)he sees a huge opportunity to score big at the expense of the local rubes. Cause and effect is lost on Billy and Betty Booster ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:26 PM (pNxlR)

57 The Gell-Mann paradox doesn't apply to the wikipedia as a whole. Gell-Mann assumes that the entire publication is written by the same small group of people, all of whom are equally ignorant about, well, nearly everything. That doesn't apply to the wikipedia. There, different classes of articles are written by different groups of people, who, in many cases, know well the subjects about which they're writing. FWIW, in my area of computer programming, I've found the wikipedia to be an invaluable resource for technical information.

BTW, did you correct any of the mistakes in the article?

Posted by: Brown Line at May 20, 2018 12:26 PM (S6ArX)

58 Two weeks ago I was in Pure (the Yooper part)
Michigan. There was still a lot of ice on Lake Superior and in most of
the harbors. The Keweenaw Peninsula also had a lot of snow in the woods.
Fortunately the skeeters and black flies weren't out yet. The U.P. is
one of the most beautiful parts of the country.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM
-------------------
For about two weeks out of the year.

We almost bought property up there way back. 20 acres on the Yellow Dog River.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at May 20, 2018 12:27 PM (+Dllb)

59 I use Wikipedia primarily not so much for the truth of its content but rather to understand allusions. Thus if someone refers to Joe McCarthy's HUAC and I don't know what it is I loom it up and learn what people think they are talking about rather than the actual truth.


Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

HUAC was started in the late 1930's to investigate NAZI influence in America. All well and good then.

And then, after WWII, people on HUAC started to look into Soviet influence in America. BAD!!

And Joe McCarthy was a Senator, and never a part of HUAC: House committee on Un-American Activities.

It is, in the long run, a bad thing when the government starts to investigate Americans. It gets too easy in these days to find something that somebody did wrong, and for the full weight of the government to fall on you.

This is flat out tyranny.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at May 20, 2018 12:28 PM (S6Pax)

60 just looked up evolution on Inforgalactic

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:28 PM (/U6eQ)

61 a couple of guys from the big regional paper declined the $5 pens they were offered on ethical grounds

Ha! Prolly the first "ethical" thing they'd done in years. Apply that to your craft, you buffoons.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2018 12:28 PM (Tyii7)

62 This wiki entry seems pretty solid:

"The book describes the actions and interactions of a group of highly mobile dogs, who operate cars and other conveyances in pursuit of work, play, and a final mysterious goal: a dog party."
Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 12:15 PM (UdKB7)


It also says the last hat was the best hat of all, and I don't agree with that.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 12:29 PM (cY3LT)

63 Damn.....you lived in Berkeley and went to (shudders) school there and were and still are a sane and productive person.

You Sir are a man among men.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 12:29 PM (EoRCO)

64 And shows on woodworking and restoration, usually good for a chuckle.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 12:01 PM
~~~
Reminds me of the scene in 'For the love of the game', where Costner, using a band saw, slices into his hand. Getting blood all over the fluffy white snow.
Pitching hand- subplot: no self-gratification.

Posted by: socalcon at May 20, 2018 12:30 PM (Roy2Z)

65 On non political topics a lot of the lack of quality in the media comes from the shrinking newsrooms and likely sub standard J schools where basic journalism is under taught.

I busted a bit above on a Tribune energy reporter not knowing some basic stuff, but in reality she was probably covering everything from electrical utilities to retail gasoline. It's hard to have depth with a beat like that.

Posted by: Keith at May 20, 2018 12:30 PM (USf3s)

66 *Infogalactic*

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:30 PM (/U6eQ)

67 I found Wiki's lack of commentary on the arboreal nature of the canine soiree to be disturbingly incomplete.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 20, 2018 12:31 PM (YFnq5)

68 It was an amazing experience, having the world's portable encyclopedia revealed to be completely full of shit.

Why it's almost like a three ring circus without a ringmaster that understand's the need for coherence and organization.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 12:31 PM (n9EOP)

69 understands

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 12:31 PM (n9EOP)

70 The collision between "Abrupt Manmade Global Climate Change" and "Big Evolution™" could be epic!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:33 PM (m45I2)

71 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 12:20 PM

The first time I had heard the Troll comment I was at breakfast in St. Ignace years ago. The waitress told me to watch out for trolls after I crossed the Mackinaw Bridge. She called it 'the troll bridge.' I laughed so hard my breakfast almost came out my nose.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:33 PM (9UFns)

72 47 My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.
==
sigh"

There's a "yo mama" joke hiding in plain sight there, but I ain't gonna be the one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 12:33 PM (V2Yro)

73
63 Damn.....you lived in Berkeley and went to (shudders) school there and were and still are a sane and productive person.


There are at least three of us here with that shameful (not really) blight on our otherwise spotless strings of service to humanity. Che Guevera and I are the other two.

Kind of unexpected to have that exfent of connection to Berkeley within this august assembly of morons, but there it is.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:34 PM (pNxlR)

74 Nunes
If they ran a spy ring or an informant ring and they were paying people within the Trump campaign if any of that is true, that is an absolute red line.

IF???

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 20, 2018 12:34 PM (JFO2v)

75 Wiki is pretty good for what I use it for - airplane references & info on obscure wars & the like.

Posted by: josephistan at May 20, 2018 12:36 PM (ANIFC)

76 Just started Canton on TCM on demand, the precursor to Leftism

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 12:37 PM (aC6Sd)

77 it all depends on the topic, I agree

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:37 PM (/U6eQ)

78 There's a "yo mama" joke hiding in plain sight there, but I ain't gonna be the one.

=

something , something parachute..there I said it

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:38 PM (/U6eQ)

79 And let allown the will repeat it all

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 12:38 PM (aC6Sd)

80 Damn! I just spent fourteen generations growing thicker ody hair and now they tell me the globe is getting warmer!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:38 PM (m45I2)

81 My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)


Interesting analogy
Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at May 20, 2018 12:25 PM (czkHE)


Yep. And in actuality, a pretty good one for how/why evolution exists.

The junk yard being planet Earth, and the 747 being virtually anything/everything that has a utilitarian purpose, and therefore, exists.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 12:38 PM (cY3LT)

82 My BIL likens Wikipedia to the 'idiot lights' on an automobile's dashboard. Not as useful a gauges.

Posted by: socalcon at May 20, 2018 12:39 PM (Roy2Z)

83
I am positive that there is not a single smidgeon of untruth or error in the Wikipedia entries for Barky, Mooch, Shrillary, Slick Willie, Nanzi or John Effing Kerry. They are shining examples of honesty and selflessness to us all.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:39 PM (pNxlR)

84 I guess the Muldoon line winds up on an evolutionary dead end.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:40 PM (m45I2)

85 My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.

Not really.
\
The general theory of evolution describes a well-established mechanism that is among the most powerful ever known to Man. There is no question about this. Now, the theory of evolution as applied to biology is a separate question, but the evidence for it on the local level (intraspecies) is quite impressive and there is no other, even half-reasonable, explanation offered for the development of species.

You might not like the biological theory of evolution, but don't make the mistake of trying to argue against the general theory of evolution, which is one of the most important intellectual developments of Man, right up there with the wheel, writing, mathematics, and the concept of the chain reaction.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 12:40 PM (uSurQ)

86 76 Danton, you stupid autocucumber , got to watch this thing like a hawk

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 12:41 PM (aC6Sd)

87 Why does my hash keep changing? Look at 9 and 22.

It's your future self returning in time to kill you to see if "he" will disappear after he pulls the trigger.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 12:42 PM (Evws/)

88
84 I guess the Muldoon line winds up on an evolutionary dead end.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:40 PM (m45I2)


HBOUS - Hair Balls of Unusual Size. Scientists generations from now will search in vain for the felines capable of creating such prodigeous spheres.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:42 PM (pNxlR)

89 lived in Berkeley and went to (shudders) school there and were and still are a sane and productive person.

You Sir are a man among men.


*******


Ever read Poe's A Descent into the Maelstrom?

CBD at Berkeley is like that one turd in the bowl that refused to go down in the swirl of the flush.

And I mean that in the best possible way.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:43 PM (m45I2)

90 *dusts off suit of armor*

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:43 PM (/U6eQ)

91 There are at least three of us here with that shameful (not really) blight on our otherwise spotless strings of service to humanity. Che Guevera and I are the other two.

Kind of unexpected to have that exfent of connection to Berkeley within this august assembly of morons, but there it is.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 20, 2018 12:34 PM (pNxlR)


I was at Cal briefly ... but left to come back to the East Coast (NYU). I couldn't get an apartment when I went there (rent control and 50 people interviewing for every open apartment really bugged me) and lived in the hotel above Blondie's Pizza for a while and then in the hotel down Telegraph (that I think burned down some years later).

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (uSurQ)

92 Gell-Mann amnesia? I created the internet for just such a reason.
Where's my Nobel Prize?

Posted by: Al Gore-icle at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (Fb9aZ)

93 I generally find Wikipedia to be accurate in the non-controversial subjects I know about, like chemistry and mathematics. When it comes to controversial subjects, it's about as trustworthy as Whoopi Goldberg.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (nvMvs)


Same here, and the good Wiki entries will point you towards sources, too. However, whatever the outrage d' jour is for the SJWs, Wiki is not to be trusted. The intertubes is both a wonderful and dangerous thing.

A nice thing about Wikipedia is that you can update an entry if you happen to have additional information. I did that once for a "golden age" Sci-Fi author. Perhaps CBD could do the same for the Barrington Hall entry (unless the entry is obviously biased towards "Lefties are wonderful!")

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (5Yee7)

94 in seriousness, the problem with Wikipedia is that we've all swallowed the trendy theory of "crowdsourcing", because it both embodies our distrust of experts, and makes us feel good about ourselves.

"Crowdsourcing" information is Bullshit. Outrageous bullshit, it's like asking bushmen in the kalihari for instructions on how to build that 747 mentioned previously, and figuring that if we just talk to enough of them the answer will turn up.

An "answer" will turn up alright, it always does. But it'll probably involve gourds and hyena scat, which is probably a good approximation of most of Wikipedia.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (V2Yro)

95 There is a new Prager video on the belief of God and atheist believing in nothing. Be back with link.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (aC6Sd)

96
I was quoted only one time after a phone call from a business newspaper. One line. Dude totally got it wrong.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2018 12:45 PM (r+sAi)

97 CBD at Berkeley is like that one turd in the bowl that refused to go down in the swirl of the flush.

And I mean that in the best possible way.

-
You should manufacture your own line of boutique Valentine's Day cards.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 12:45 PM (+y/Ru)

98 We all know that we were brought here by interplanetary aliens, who landed on Machu Picchu, geez, people...

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:45 PM (/U6eQ)

99 I was misquoted. I meant "Waikiki Pussy".

Posted by: zombie rudyard kipling at May 20, 2018 12:46 PM (Evws/)

100
I've noticed the deep state narrative is now that spying on a presidential campaign is no diffierent than spying on Guido who is running a bookmaking operation in the Bronx.

Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at May 20, 2018 12:46 PM (PtOP4)

101 Fortunately the skeeters ... weren't out yet. The U.P. is one of the most beautiful parts of the country.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:16 PM (9UFns)


Ah yes, the State Bird of Michigan!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 20, 2018 12:46 PM (5Yee7)

102 I actually contributed 3 bucks to wiki when they had their fund drive. It was a weak moment.

Posted by: Kallisto at May 20, 2018 12:47 PM (iF4iV)

103 99 I was misquoted. I meant "Waikiki Pussy"."

Oh, leave that judge out of this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 12:48 PM (V2Yro)

104 Muldoon
Wicki Tiki Taffy, you made me laugh, not the first time either

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at May 20, 2018 12:48 PM (Vuaet)

105 Mammoth Muldoon?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 12:49 PM (Evws/)

106 And shows on woodworking and restoration, usually good for a chuckle.
Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2018 12:01 PM
=====

Woodwright's Shop is the only one worth watching. The laboratory cleanliness and impossibly expensive tools of most of them is just sales/marketing. Serious tool envy with Roy Underhill.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 12:49 PM (MIKMs)

107 If you really want to know the facts, go to the library, not the internet.

Posted by: Soona at May 20, 2018 12:25 PM (Fs5vw)


You can steal my book on Kindle!

Posted by: Zombie Abbie Hoffman at May 20, 2018 12:49 PM (sXefu)

108 what is it with NY and apartments? I worked with someone once who was bending over backwards to live with 5 other people, in Manhattan I think. We are talking references and school connections, as if trying to get into a fancy "invitation only" club.

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 12:49 PM (/U6eQ)

109 Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 20, 2018 12:17 PM (Lqy/e)

Just bookmarked Infogalactic. Hadn't known it existed.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 20, 2018 12:49 PM (phT8I)

110 https://www.prageru.com/videos/whats-greater-leap-faith-god-or-multiverse

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2018 12:49 PM (aC6Sd)

111 HBOUS - Hair Balls of Unusual Size.
Are they asymmetrical like bears' ball?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 12:50 PM (Evws/)

112 I generally find Wikipedia to be accurate in the non-controversial subjects I know about, like chemistry and mathematics. When it comes to controversial subjects, it's about as trustworthy as Whoopi Goldberg.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (nvMvs)

Same here, and the good Wiki entries will point you towards sources, too. However, whatever the outrage d' jour is for the SJWs, Wiki is not to be trusted. The intertubes is both a wonderful and dangerous thing.

A nice thing about Wikipedia is that you can update an entry if you happen to have additional information. I did that once for a "golden age" Sci-Fi author. Perhaps CBD could do the same for the Barrington Hall entry (unless the entry is obviously biased towards "Lefties are wonderful!")
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (5Yee7)


Yeah, I think that's kinda the point regarding the usefulness of Wikipedia. I don't go there to find out if Obama was wonderful or not.

I will go there to find out (for example) who won the 1968 Rose Bowl, however, or to touch up on a particular subject about which I know a little, and need a bit of reminding.

Then I expect the information I seek to be tested, either by reference links, or some other form of confirmation elsewhere. If it's important enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 12:50 PM (cY3LT)

113 that we've all swallowed the trendy theory of "crowdsourcing"

Who's "we", kimosabe?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 12:51 PM (BH7Yv)

114 I actually contributed 3 bucks to wiki when they had their fund drive. It was a weak moment.
Posted by: Kallisto at May 20, 2018 12:47 PM (iF4iV)


I did too. Sent them a $3 bill. They had no idea, it was close to being real money, but not quite.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 12:53 PM (cY3LT)

115 Back in my undegrad days at Washington State, I wanted to be a newspaper man. Damn I liked that...the guy who dug for answers and really knew what was going on. My first journalism class on reporting was taught by the classic old time editor. The final was to write an obituary.

The prof's philosophy was, obits are things that ALWAYS get read, and if you couldn't get that right, how the hell could you expect the readers to believe anything else???

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2018 12:53 PM (0tfLf)

116 Roofies give you Jello Man amnesia.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2018 12:53 PM (IqV8l)

117 Then I expect the information I seek to be tested, either by reference links, or some other form of confirmation elsewhere. If it's important enough.

Posted by: BurtTC


*******

I think you hit the nail on the head here. All incoming information, regardless of the source needs to be tested and weighted accordingly. A sound approach.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:54 PM (m45I2)

118
"one of the most important intellectual developments of Man, right up there with the wheel, writing, mathematics, pizza and the concept of the chain reaction."

Fixed

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 20, 2018 12:54 PM (h3c1J)

119 I and friends of mine have noticed more and more, and not just in political writings, so many errors in magazines that are devoted to some certain interest. Errors that we as hobbyist laymen see instantly but pass through to make it into print.

Perhaps the ease of writing using word processing software as compared to typewriters has something to do with it. They lack of rigor in the educational establishment too would be a major contributor.

And then there is this,
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/998198385180983298
which just adds to all else.

Posted by: geoffb at May 20, 2018 12:54 PM (zOpu5)

120 lived in Berkeley and went to (shudders) school there and were and still are a sane and productive person.

You Sir are a man among men.



Little known factoid...Berkeley has a very good Army ROTC department. Their grads typically do very well in their military careers.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2018 12:55 PM (0tfLf)

121 You should manufacture your own line of boutique Valentine's Day cards.
=====

My kids and relatives roll their eyes every year at their annual Evil Mad Scientist valentines from me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 12:55 PM (MIKMs)

122 go to the library,"

Can't. There's a free speech corner nearby, and one can't be expected to handle that...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 12:55 PM (BH7Yv)

123 that we've all swallowed the trendy theory of "crowdsourcing"


******


But, but, but...consensus is important!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:56 PM (m45I2)

124
OK, let's see if my new Gab account info shows up in my nic.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 12:56 PM (GdWl+)

125 Errors that we as hobbyist laymen see instantly but pass through to make it into print"

Editors are mean people.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 12:57 PM (BH7Yv)

126

Good, that works.

I'm back on Gab and I joined the AoS group. Now I know how to mute accounts, which is a good thing.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 12:58 PM (GdWl+)

127 Ah yes, the State Bird of Michigan!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 20, 2018 12:46 PM

I'm somewhat used to skeeters, they just drill holes in you. It was the black flies that near drove me insane. They take chunks of flesh.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at May 20, 2018 12:58 PM (9UFns)

128 Wikipedia is good for dates and names and places. You want to know who won Super Bowl VI and what was the score? The announcers? The half-time entertainment? You don't remember how many games the 1977 World Series went and who Reggie Jackson hit his 3 home runs off of? You want to know who played bass on the first Neil Young album, and who produced it? When Julius Caesar lived? And when Issac Newton died?
Wikipedia is the place.

But on anything that touches on any of the hot button issues of today or anything to do with any SJW shit?
Proceed with caution.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2018 12:58 PM (7uYFy)

129
But, but, but...consensus is important!
=====

Isn't there some new show about crowdsourcing investigations, CBS maybe.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 12:58 PM (MIKMs)

130 44 28 Why does my hash keep changing? Look at 9 and 22.
Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:13 PM (MVjcR)

It changes because there is really more than one Weasel (if that's even your real name) which are all part of a secret society known as the Weasellumanati whose goal is to crash websites which they don't like the color scheme of by overwhelming them with comments from users named "Weasel".

Or at least that's what Wikipedia said.
Posted by: Weaselspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2018 12:21 PM (WU8si)
-----
How can you not trust a guy on the internet calling himself Weasel?

Posted by: Weasel at May 20, 2018 12:58 PM (MVjcR)

131 1 You mean to say that wet streets don't cause rain?
Posted by: Clueless Journalists at May 20, 2018 11:56 AM (WU8si)


No. It's the barometer needle falling that causes rain.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 20, 2018 12:58 PM (jScj0)

132 I've worked off and on at a database used to offer search engine results. For stress relief we have forums where you learn about these "across the globe" individuals that you are working with solely virtually. Some of it is interesting and some horrific. I found by and large the true lefties know when they are lieing and choose to do so. They know their take on an issue is wrong but will honestly tell you that it doesn't matter. I lost a lot of trust with people during this time frame where I expect everyone to act in good faith. I know first hand out of their own mouths their agenda comes before anything. While this "job" has become scarccer and scarcer many of the editors moved on to Wikipedia. This people are not to be believed. Again, they take something so worth wild and trash it. Take everything with a grain of salt.

Posted by: sally at May 20, 2018 12:59 PM (sBDDH)

133 When your groin smells like hay, it's time to bathe.

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 20, 2018 12:59 PM (/qEW2)

134 But, but, but...consensus is important"

And truth is always between the extreme statements...

*sigh*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 12:59 PM (BH7Yv)

135 Berkeley has a very good Army ROTC department

Now there's an oil and water mixture, if ever there was one.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 20, 2018 12:59 PM (Tyii7)

136 go to the library,"
Can't. There's a free speech corner nearby, and one can't be expected to handle that...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 12:55 PM (BH7Yv)

I can't either....too many urban outdoorsmen using it for the can and a/c.

But mostly for the can.

Who knew the houseless were such scholars.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 20, 2018 01:00 PM (EoRCO)

137 Essentially, you should never trust Wiki for anything that is even remotely political and also do not trust it for info on any fact, person, theory or event that took place after 1950, when the communist-leftist f*cktards began to take over academia and turn it all into revisionist, baseless, not-empirically-sound, sh*t.

"Scientific method? What's that?"**
**Your basic "Climate Scientist"

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 20, 2018 01:00 PM (Fb9aZ)

138 Then I expect the information I seek to be tested, either by reference links, or some other form of confirmation elsewhere. If it's important enough.

Posted by: BurtTC


*******

I think you hit the nail on the head here. All incoming information, regardless of the source needs to be tested and weighted accordingly. A sound approach.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:54 PM (m45I2)


Within limits though. I mean this seriously. There are some "facts" about which I do not need to know if they are accurate or not. If it's not that important to me, I am perfectly fine with being misled. But I get to decide what's important to me, and when it is, I'm damn sure going to try to get it right.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 01:00 PM (cY3LT)

139 "Crowdsourcing" information is Bullshit. Outrageous bullshit,

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2018 12:44 PM (V2Yro)


For some things crowdsourcing is very powerful and good. How many of us are running Linux and parts of the GNU project? Crowdsourcing served to build a multi-billion dollar entity that serves some very important functions and does keep certain things free for people to use and manipulate themselves outside of ridiculous copyright restrictions. And, yes, we have a bunch of erstwhile commies to thank for that, in good part.

But crowdsourcing is not a universal tool that works with anything and that's where the problem lies. People often don't understand the limitations of specific tools. Yes, a hammer is great when you have nails but it's not so great with screws. But seeing a guy hammering in a screw is not evidence against the effectiveness and usefulness of hammers.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 01:01 PM (uSurQ)

140 OT, door gasket for an old Kenmore dishwasher, $45? Sheesh.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2018 01:02 PM (a3OL0)

141 where I expect everyone to act in good faith"

I, too, was that naive once. The realization otherwise was pretty jarring.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 01:02 PM (BH7Yv)

142 Yes, Backwards Boy, it does show up, and is accessible.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:02 PM (Evws/)

143 go to the library,"
=====

No card catalogues. All research is through the computer -- as fungible as money.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 01:02 PM (MIKMs)

144 What's GNU?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (Evws/)

145 The prof's philosophy was, obits are things that ALWAYS get read, and if you couldn't get that right, how the hell could you expect the readers to believe anything else???
Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2018 12:53 PM (0tfLf)


Perhaps. If we're talking about things like, was he married or not. Did they have children, and did their children have children (his grandchildren).

However, most obits are filled with flowery language, like "he is mourned by his loving wife, his dutiful children, and his doting grandchildren."

The truth might be however, his wife was a hateful shrew, his children are mental defects and/or heroin addicts, and his grandchildren stole everything from his dentures to his bank account information.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (cY3LT)

146
Encyclopedia Shittanica.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (VM6ev)

147
Wiki is okay for some STEM stuff. You have to ask yourself though, 'Could this be politicized?'

If the answer is maybe or above, then it is.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at May 20, 2018 01:05 PM (LOgQ4)

148 For some things crowdsourcing"

A dedicated user base isn't crowdsourcing as I understand it...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 01:05 PM (BH7Yv)

149 No card catalogues. All research is through the computer -- as fungible as money.

Berkeley has its own free online library.

Posted by: Cosmo Cramer at May 20, 2018 01:05 PM (rdl6o)

150

Hot dawg, andycanuk. What's funny is that I got a follower about three minutes after I signed up for the AoS group.

I remember someone, perhaps a cob-logger, who posted a short "how-to" guide for Gab recently. Does anybody know where I can find it?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:05 PM (GdWl+)

151 Crowdsourcing also showed the TANG Memos were fraudulent; and combed through the Wikileaks (irony alert!) discovering Clinton/Dem illegalities etc.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:06 PM (Evws/)

152 gab ai - when I started to spend most of my time muting assorted whack jobs in my feed ( i am talking abut seriously disturbed people), I knew I've had enough

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 01:06 PM (/U6eQ)

153 So it depends on the definition of "crowdsourcing"?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:07 PM (Evws/)

154 go to the library,"
=====

No card catalogues. All research is through the computer -- as fungible as money.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 01:02 PM (MIKMs)


Physical libraries with hard copy books are nothing but huge wastes of space. Unless someone needs to sniff the pages of a book there's nothing in a hard copy that cannot be more cheaply and efficiently digitized and rendered accessible from your living room.

It is truly amazing that the average 12 year old has a greater library in his pocket, now, than ever existed on Earth before. This is one of the reasons why college textbooks costing hundreds of dollars is such an intellectual offense. The same for K-12 texts that the schools pay for. Only government funding could pull off such a feat. The cost of information has been reduced to near zero and its availability has been extended to every nook and crannie.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 01:07 PM (uSurQ)

155 If you really want to know the facts, go to the library, not the internet.


*******


Either way, you need virus protection.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:07 PM (m45I2)

156 BurtTC needs a hug!

Everybody pile on!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (qJtVm)

157

gab ai - when I started to spend most of my time muting assorted whack jobs in my feed ( i am talking abut seriously disturbed people), I knew I've had enough

I signed up last year and closed it for the same reasons. I guess that's not much different from the bowels of Twatter. We'll see what happens...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (GdWl+)

158 conspiracy theorists, neo's, you name it

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (/U6eQ)

159 'What's GNU?'

Nothing under the Sun.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (UdKB7)

160 Crowdsourcing also showed the TANG Memos were fraudulent; "

Really? I was under the impression that the first questions were raised by a retired IBM'r...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (BH7Yv)

161 Most of Michael Crichton's fiction has been made into movies or TV stories. Sometimes more than once, like Westworld.

A notable exception is State of Fear, about eco-terrorist believers in AGW, which Crichton refutes and abuses throughout, with a appendix.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (pV/54)

162 I signed up last year and closed it for the same reasons. I guess that's not much different from the bowels of Twatter. We'll see what happens...
=

I think I saw you there, Vm had a list for a while...let us know what you think after you re-visit

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 01:09 PM (/U6eQ)

163 What's GNU?
Posted by: andycanuck


******


Not much. What's gnu with you?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:09 PM (m45I2)

164 how do I add my gab info to my nic?

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at May 20, 2018 01:09 PM (Vuaet)

165

Everybody pile on!

"Dogpile on the wabbit! Dogpile on the wabbit!'

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:10 PM (GdWl+)

166 In Deadpool 2, anybody else catch the blatant, lingering shot of Karl Marx's portrait on the wall of the X-Man School?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at May 20, 2018 01:10 PM (ppaKI)

167 I think the reason for the effect is that we think it is trivial to just report/regurgitate a fact. But they can't even do that.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 01:10 PM (/qEW2)

168 Listening the Dems debate for the Georgia governor primary. Must be nice to live in a world where everything can be be free. But also sad where everybody is a victim and suffering oppression but has hopes and dreams that can only be fulfilled by all the free stuff.

Posted by: Ripley at May 20, 2018 01:10 PM (MxEKc)

169 >>>My mother used to say that believing in evolution was like believing a tornado hit a junk yard and a 747 popped out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 20, 2018 12:18 PM (+y/Ru)

Go, Mom!

Posted by: m at May 20, 2018 01:10 PM (0bRDi)

170 When i was in college, distinctly remember a professor breathlessly regaling us with the 'fact' that the Boeing 747 was so big and complex that they truly didn't fully understand why it actually flew.

This sounds like a mis-restatement of Friedman's "I, Pencil" thesis but scaled up because I guess pencils just weren't impressive enough for the prof. If by "they," you mean "any one single person," then it might be true.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 20, 2018 01:10 PM (7oUUT)

171 i am talking abut seriously disturbed people

They are legion.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 20, 2018 01:11 PM (Tyii7)

172 What's GNU?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (Evws/)


Basically the start of the free software project that Linux lives other. Not exactly, but basically. The point was that some computer scietists didn't like the fact that operating systems and other system software was all going to copyrighted proprietary material and it was going to be the case that people wouldn't be able to work with their own computers and programming without having to go through commercial software, along with being heavily restricted on the use of that software and the ability to develop it and change it. So they started GNU, the free software project. I believe it originally came from a bunch of Libertarian/Commie types at MIT ... though I might be mistaken in that.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 01:11 PM (uSurQ)

173 BurtTC needs a hug!

Everybody pile on!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 20, 2018 01:08 PM (qJtVm)


I do?

Mind if I spray some Binaca first?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 01:11 PM (cY3LT)

174 "It is truly amazing that the average 12 year old has a greater library in his pocket, now, than ever existed on Earth before. "

If my long-dead parents were to return I'd have to explain how we can now send instant mail to anyone in the world, or talk to them at reasonable cost, and have the hugest library ever at their fingertips, all in a pocket device.

But how most people use it to take dick pics, and share cute cat videos

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 20, 2018 01:12 PM (pV/54)

175

how do I add my gab info to my nic?


I went to my Gab account without logging in and CampersandP'd the address into the URL: field in the comments then hit the "Post" button.

And viola!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:12 PM (GdWl+)

176 Was once interviewed for our local newspaper many, many years ago for an adventure I went on (Mt Everest), by a young woman. When I read the article, the embarrassment was great. The reporter made me sound like and idiot. She misunderstood absolutely everything said, then wrote the article based on her ignorance. Still embarrassed over knowing that people I knew read this hogwash.

A friend who appears in the newspaper with some regularity told me the same thing happened to him in his first article. Now he requires, in writing, that he gets final editor rights over all articles about him.

Also, after coming back from the Woodstock music festival, reading the crap concerning the festival was astounding. People who did not attend wrote as if they knew everything that happened. The festival was nothing like what was reported.

Posted by: French Jeton at May 20, 2018 01:13 PM (Fjvqd)

177 The problem with Wiki is that that things that are political are politicized, and things that are obscure are often wrong because there may be a single author interested enough to update the wiki.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

178 Little known factoid...Berkeley has a very good Army ROTC department. Their grads typically do very well in their military careers.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2018 12:55 PM (0tfLf)

Perhaps because they have met the enemy while they were young?

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 01:13 PM (n9EOP)

179 Physical libraries with hard copy books are nothing but huge wastes of
space. Unless someone needs to sniff the pages of a book there's
nothing in a hard copy that cannot be more cheaply and efficiently
digitized and rendered accessible from your living room.

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Cheaply and efficiently 'disappeared'. As I said, fungible. I recall an old, old interview with Eleanor Roosevelt where she was explaining coupons during wartime and how to encourage your servants to happily comply. FDR had a fit about saving money for millionaires. Can't be found any more. Have to go to a real book.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 01:14 PM (MIKMs)

180 Physical libraries with hard copy books are nothing but huge wastes of space. Unless someone needs to sniff the pages of a book there's nothing in a hard copy that cannot be more cheaply and efficiently digitized and rendered accessible from your living room.



If everything is already digitized and perfectly tagged. It isn't and it won't be.

Do away with paper libraries and you miss the chance of stumbling upon "Price Functioning in Monopsonies" in the stacks in the middle of the night.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 20, 2018 01:14 PM (fuK7c)

181 What's GNU?

GNU is not Unix.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM (yQpMk)

182 Really? I was under the impression that the first questions were raised by a retired IBM'r...
Many people pointed out errors in the documents and in the arguments made by anti-Bush types but, yes, there was someone who noted it first. Chuckles helped too, as he used to crow, before he went nuts.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM (Evws/)

183 Literally.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM (yQpMk)

184 Re Jake Holenhead:

Yes, the U.P. is a great place. My favorite go-to spot. Visit a few times during the year -- work, vacation, fishing, and deer hunting. Have friends up there, so it is an especially enjoyable time.

Posted by: French Jeton at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM (Fjvqd)

185


If you want a chuckle, look up Trump on Wiki. Article reads like Wapo wrote it.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM (S/hVx)

186 Is it permissible to have a contact before you give an interview ? You only agree if get to review final, and if final published copy is in any way different you get reimbursed for all sorts of things, and bodily harm ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 01:16 PM (/U6eQ)

187

In Deadpool 2, anybody else catch the blatant, lingering shot of Karl Marx's portrait on the wall of the X-Man School?

There was a guy dressed up in a Deadpool costume walking around the complex (it has movie theaters) and letting people take pics with him at last night's gig. He gave the one-fingered salute in a lot of them. Real intellectual stuff, right there...

He was carrying a pink backpack. Not sure if that was an official part of his costume or not, but it looked funny.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (GdWl+)

188 "Not much. What's gnu with you?"

What has been will be again
What has been done will be done again

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (UdKB7)

189 Literally.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM (yQpMk)


Yep. Unix was proprietary AT+T software, I believe.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (uSurQ)

190 #172 Thanks, POP, for the explanation that I didn't know before. See? Crowdsourcing!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (Evws/)

191 172 What's GNU?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (Evws/)

Nothing really! whats gnu with you?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (JFO2v)

192 If you want a chuckle, look up Trump on Wiki. Article reads like Wapo wrote it.

I'm betting there were many a low-t orgasm in the composition of that one.

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 20, 2018 01:18 PM (Tyii7)

193 What's GNU?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (Evws/)

Nothing really! whats gnu with you?
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (JFO2v)

lol !

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 01:18 PM (/U6eQ)

194 The problem with Wiki is that that things that are political are politicized, and things that are obscure are often wrong because there may be a single author interested enough to update the wiki.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:13 PM (yQpMk)


Yeah, my prior example, the 1968 Rose Bowl, I looked it up on Wikipedia. I now know USC beat Indiana, 14-3, and OJ Simpson was named MVP of the game.

Facts I did not know before I looked it up (mostly because I don't care), and now believe with 100% certainty.

Not political opinion, and not single-sourced. As such, Wikipedia has its usefulness.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 01:18 PM (cY3LT)

195 Check out books from the library on your computer and at the end of the checkout they disappear. What if they are assigning the wrong books to the wrong computer or disappearing problematic and unapproved reading. Be very careful.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 01:19 PM (MIKMs)

196 I read an article once in Reader's Digest once, about Nuclear Power. Now that is what I do for a living, I really do know something about it, and this article was SO WRONG, so slanted, I began to wonder about all the other articles in it. I can't even pick up Reader's Digest anymore. In their own way, they really did broaden my horizons, and I became quite skeptical of just about everything written in the media after that. A questioning attitude is a good thing.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 feet CO at May 20, 2018 01:19 PM (Nrxta)

197 Crowdsourcing!

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:17 PM (Evws/)

This is one of the rare places where I'd trust crowd sourcing if I recognized most of the nics.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 01:19 PM (n9EOP)

198 ... just report/regurgitate a fact. But they can't even do that.


******


In a world where every 'reporter' or 'journalist' fancies themselves an activist or shaper of opinions who is out to "change the world", this is not a trivial concern.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:19 PM (m45I2)

199 Has anyone tasted Encyclopedia Britannica lately? Its not much better than Wiki. I am of a mind to buy an old set of Britannica, say before 1975, just to have a start on reality. What would be nice is to have a set from the 1950s and 1920s just to offer a greater sample size for knowing things that can be known.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2018 01:20 PM (vV/gB)

200 I guess the Muldoon line winds up on an evolutionary dead end.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 12:40 PM[/i


This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a limerick

Posted by: Zombie TS Eliot at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (EzdLW)

201 What's GNU?

You GNU what would happen here when you asked that, right?

Posted by: That deplorable guy who always says... at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (Tyii7)

Posted by: Zombie TS Eliot at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (EzdLW)

203 What if they are assigning the wrong books to the wrong computer or disappearing problematic and unapproved reading. Be very careful.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 20, 2018 01:19 PM (MIKMs)


Comrade, all you really need to know is today's truth!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (n9EOP)

204 Wiki is like all organizations that are not specifically and organizationally right-wing. They become Left-Wing. Because face it, the world, as the Left sees it, is easy for those who skill is in language. It rewards the unaccomplished glib over the taciturn performer. The net-workers over the solitary. The pretty over the skilled. It's a system set up by leftists to make leftists important.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (yQpMk)

205 199 Has anyone tasted Encyclopedia Britannica lately? Its not much better than Wiki. I am of a mind to buy an old set of Britannica, say before 1975, just to have a start on reality. What would be nice is to have a set from the 1950s and 1920s just to offer a greater sample size for knowing things that can be known.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2018 01:20 PM (vV/gB)

I have an Encyclopedia of plants from Britain, ca. 1830. What they knew and didn't know (but thought they did) is fascinating. What is also interesting is that the various authors also routinely cited the ancients.

Posted by: MarkY at May 20, 2018 01:22 PM (JbTDu)

206 What has been will be again
What has been done will be done again

Posted by: f'd



*******


Indeed.

I am nothing if not derivative.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 20, 2018 01:23 PM (m45I2)

207 And also a topic for which mostly nobody cares. Which likely explains the lack of accuracy. To say that everything on Wikipedia is as filled with errors as a page inexplicably dedicated to "Barrington Hall" is quite a stretch.

No, it's got errors in basically every article, and because they require that edits refer to someplace else on the web it's very easy for vandals to game the system and very hard for would-be do-gooders to fix things.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 20, 2018 01:23 PM (gm9yG)

208 What's GNU?

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:04 PM (Evws/)

Basically the start of the free software project that Linux lives other. Not exactly, but basically.


========

Richard Stallman, who started GNU is a fat smelly idiot who invented ... a text editor with a lisp interpreter.

He tried to develop an operating system but failed. Linus Torvalds was the inventor of Linux, but Stallman got him to call it GNU/Linux. Richard's lasting contribution was the invention of the GNU clause that states "this software is provided as is without any warranty, including the implied warranty of merchantibility or fitness for a particular purpose".

vi is the ultimate text editor.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 01:23 PM (/qEW2)

209 "The book describes the actions and interactions of a group of highly mobile dogs, who operate cars and other conveyances in pursuit of work, play, and a final mysterious goal: a dog party."
Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 12:15 PM

Go Dog Go!

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 20, 2018 01:24 PM (2NqXo)

210 204 Wiki is like all organizations that are not specifically and organizationally right-wing. They become Left-Wing. Because face it, the world, as the Left sees it, is easy for those who skill is in language. It rewards the unaccomplished glib over the taciturn performer. The net-workers over the solitary. The pretty over the skilled. It's a system set up by leftists to make leftists important.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (yQpMk)


The problem is that the leftists see themselves as the Knights Templar of the Communist Party. They're utterly devoted, tireless, and relentless in pursuit of their goal.

Most other people have lives.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 20, 2018 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

211 What would be nice is to have a set from the 1950s and 1920s just to offer a greater sample size for knowing things that can be known.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2018 01:20 PM (vV/gB)


My parents had encyclopedias from that era and I used that as reference material constantly.

I still remember one of them had the details of the process for making gun cotton. Sadly, those books got lost when they sold the house and downsized.

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 01:24 PM (n9EOP)

212 See you all later.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 20, 2018 01:25 PM (Evws/)

213
I have an Encyclopedia of plants from Britain, ca. 1830. What they knew and didn't know (but thought they did) is fascinating. What is also interesting is that the various authors also routinely cited the ancients.
-------------------------
Well, if a plant's leaf looks like a kidney it clearly must have some medical properties to aid kidneys. This is Aristotle. Bless his heart. He also thought women had fewer teeth than men and he had a wife to test the truth of the statement. Unless she was a 10 with no teeth.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2018 01:25 PM (vV/gB)

214 Has anyone tasted Encyclopedia Britannica lately? Its not much better than Wiki. I am of a mind to buy an old set of Britannica, say before 1975, just to have a start on reality. What would be nice is to have a set from the 1950s and 1920s just to offer a greater sample size for knowing things that can be known.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2018 01:20 PM (vV/gB)


I have mentioned before, I collected and read the AP annuals "History As We Lived It, which were published for the years 1964 through 1977.

They strike me as having been written with a specific intention of NOT infusing them with too much opinion or interpretation. They wanted them to be timelines. Accurate and as complete as could be fit in a thin volume.

I did notice however, the closer we got to 1977, the less sure I felt about what I was reading, without necessarily having any specific proof. Especially when it got to Jimmah Carter, but then, in 1977, I think much of what we later learned about him was still unknown.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2018 01:25 PM (cY3LT)

215 I am surprised at the SHOCKINGLY HIGH number of Americans who believe that Wikipedia would publish fake info. I must do a monologue about this McCarthyite attack on Wikipedia.

Posted by: Jake Tappper at May 20, 2018 01:26 PM (EzdLW)

216 Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:21 PM (yQpMk)


Also, appearing to be a manager is far far easier than being a really good manager that gets things done!

Posted by: Comrade Hrothgar at May 20, 2018 01:26 PM (n9EOP)

217 The HURD micro-kernel is still around, yes?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:26 PM (yQpMk)

218 What's GNU?

-----

GNU is not Unix.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:15 PM


And, much like The Horde is the heart of AoSHQ, The Hurd is the heart of GNU.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 01:26 PM (DMUuz)

219

Puddin Head, do a search for "online Encyclopedia" and you'll find a link to old ones online. Someone here posted that link recently.

Or try "online 1911 Encyclopedia."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at May 20, 2018 01:26 PM (GdWl+)

220 vi is the ultimate text editor.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 01:23 PM (/qEW2)


I used vi in the mid-70s. My next door neighbor was one of the people who had worked on it, and when he told me about it, I went to the computer science department and tried it. It was a revelation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 20, 2018 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

221 "Indeed.
I am nothing if not derivative"

Funny, you don't look Dervish.

Posted by: f'd at May 20, 2018 01:28 PM (UdKB7)

222 I have an Encyclopedia of plants from Britain, ca. 1830. What they knew and didn't know (but thought they did) is fascinating. What is also interesting is that the various authors also routinely cited the ancients.
Posted by: MarkY at May 20, 2018 01:22 PM (JbTDu)


Interesting. Cited them for what ? Properties ? like what is deadly, what is medicinal ?

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2018 01:28 PM (/U6eQ)

223 set -o vi

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 20, 2018 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

224 When i was in college, distinctly remember a professor breathlessly regaling us with the 'fact' that the Boeing 747 was so big and complex that they truly didn't fully understand why it actually flew.
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The professor didn't understand how it flew, therefore no one else could possibly know, either. Shoulda asked the junkyard/747 mom about it, or the mysterious "they" who probably attended that dog party.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at May 20, 2018 01:29 PM (2NqXo)

225 vi is the ultimate text editor.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at May 20, 2018 01:23 PM


Begun, the EMACS/vi Wars have.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 20, 2018 01:29 PM (DMUuz)

226 I think the corollary is:

People choose what they wish to believe.

They will credit facts which align with their beliefs and discredit facts that are misaligned.

Except me, of course.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 20, 2018 01:30 PM (EZebt)