Saturday Evening Movie Thread 02-24-2018 [Hosted By: TheJamesMadison]

Extracting Emotion

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For those of you with long memories, in my first post I called all movies lies. Movies are about manipulation in order to get you emotionally involved with people who never existed during events that never took place. Any emotion you do end up feeling is a manipulation of sight and sound to get you to feel that way. I don't see anything particularly wrong with that, but understanding that it's all a manipulation, I think, helps to view certain things that movies do in a new light.

One of the things that movies sometimes do that makes this very obvious to me is when they try to force an emotion from me, the audience, before it has done the necessary work to actually create an emotional connection between me and the characters on screen.

In order to highlight what I mean, I've provided two clips below. The first is from a movie that, in the hands of almost any other director, would be considered a masterpiece, but coming from Martin Scorsese is merely one of his better films. The second is from an over-praised comic book movie. Is it fair to compare the two? Well, I'm not comparing them as a whole, just two scenes that happen at about the same point in each and seem to have similar points.

The first is from Hugo:

This is our introduction to Papa Georges. I wish there was a bit more to the clip, but I think it shows enough to make my point. What emotion are we supposed to understand that Papa Georges is feeling? There seems to be a deep sadness about him, but are we, as an audience, expected to share in that sadness in that moment?

Before you answer, watch the second clip from Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2:

This is the first time we've seen the character Yondu in this film. If you haven't seen the first movie, your introduction to the character is him emoting heavily. If you have seen the first movie, none of what Yondu is going through here is even hinted at in the first adventure. This is the introduction to a major conflict for this character (being cast out from the other 99 Ravagers). Yondu is obviously deeply sad about this, but how are we, as the audience, expected to react to that emotionally?

The answer to both, I think, is keyed by the music. In the clip from Hugo, the music is almost defiantly jaunty after we see Papa Georges' sadness. We're supposed to see his sadness, perhaps understand that it's a deep melancholy, but we're not expected to share in it just yet. In the clip from Guardians, the music swells to dramatic highs as though we're expected to feel the emotions that Yondu is feeling. I suppose that if you're really invested in Yondu as a character, then some very sudden realization that he has a sad past that was never hinted at before could elicit something, but for the rest of the audience, I'm fairly certain it doesn't work.


Emotional Journeys

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There seems to be a difference in outlook from the creators of both films about what exactly the purposes of these scenes are. Scorsese sees his scene as an introduction to a character, the first step on a journey that will reveal the reasons for that melancholy. Gunn, on the other hand, seems to think that his scene is an emotional payoff on its own.

Is that a fair reading of the intentions of both scenes and filmmakers? I think so. One, I don't imagine that too many people would disagree with me that Scorsese is a better storyteller than James Gunn, but that's an argument by authority and not terribly convincing on its own. Scorsese did make New York, New York, for all its worth. To understand how these are intended, one needs to view the rest of the movies.

Hugo sees the discovery of Papa Georges' past as its main driver in terms of plot, character, and theme. Our main character, Hugo Cabret, goes on a search for family, and his way to find one is to find Papa Georges' past, so we go on a journey to find out who he was, driven by Hugo. Hugo's own path is tied inexorably to Papa Georges' past, so when we do find out why he's so sad, we've grown to know him, and the emotional payoff ends up being satisfying.

Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2, however, isn't nearly so focused. We get bits here and there in fits and starts. Yondu is far from the center of the film. He's a secondary character. You might expect an emotional payoff for him to be a minor goal to the overall picture and treated as such. To me, that implies that his emotional journey should be of relative importance to the amount of screen time the character receives. Should Yondu be dealing with something as large as rejection from his entire culture as his part of the movie? I feel like it's too much, and that it starts out asking for way too much from the audience in terms of emotional involvement.


Resolutions

Look at how both of my examples wrap up. For Hugo, we need a couple of clips. First of all, Papa Georges is actually Georges Melies, the silent film pioneer who made The Voyage to the Moon. Here's where we see that reveal (if you haven't seen the movie, do take the time to watch):

We can hear his happiness when he was on the rise, and the sadness as it falls apart. This is why I think the emotional journey works, because we gain an understanding of Papa Georges' happiness before he became sad. We see it, even experience it, with him. The next clip is the culmination of his journey:

It's obvious that, as we've gotten to know Papa Georges as a character, that he may be ornery, but he does develop a connection with Hugo through the boy's honesty and ability to fix broken things, much like how Hugo fixes Papa Georges.

Here's how Guardians ends its emotional journey for Yondu:

That's as big an emotional sendoff you can get for a character, especially considering that he's actually kind of a minor player in the film, and the payoff for the Ravager stuff is in here as well with the other Ravagers accepting him as one of their own. For me, the scene, especially that specific aspect of it, fell flat. Don't get me wrong, I think that this could have worked, but because it was that well established and the rest of the movie didn't deal with it that well either, this funeral scene just doesn't carry any emotion for me.

Am I wrong? Is Hugo's treatment of Papa Georges less satisfying than Guardians's treatment of Yondu?

What do you think?

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Annihilation
Game Night
Every Day

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Leon Morin, Priest

Movies I Saw This Week:
The Bourne Supremacy (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 4/4) [Rewatch] Poster blurb: "Hot damn, that car chase." [Personal Collection]
3000 Miles to Graceland (Netflix Rating 2/5 | Quality Rating 1/4) "One of the most miserable "fun" movie experiences I've ever had." [Netflix Instant]
The Phantom of the Opera (Netflix Rating 4/5 | Quality Rating 3/4) "Good classic silent horror exemplifying Cheney's commitment to great monster makeup." [Amazon Prime]
Iron Sky (Netflix Rating 3/5 | Quality Rating 2/4) "Exists on a border between pure silly B-movie and biting satire, but the satire falls so flat that it's hard not to hold it against the movie." [Amazon Prime]
Winter's Bone (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Spare little thriller that's very effective and involving." [Netflix DVD]
Napoleon (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "I admire its breadth of storytelling and the sheer audacity and skill of its filmmaking. At the end of the 6 hours, you know you've seen something consequential, not just in length but in terms of film history as well." ["Library"]
The Iron Mask (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "An absolutely wonderful example of silent action filmmaking. Big, brash, and completely earnest. Charming from beginning to end." [Amazon Prime]


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Comments

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1 Umm

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 06:41 PM (12Ea6)

2 Silver medal!

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 06:42 PM (EzdLW)

3 Is this the chess thread?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 24, 2018 06:44 PM (9SkN+)

4 Off to see Black Panther...

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 24, 2018 06:45 PM (di1hb)

5 Hm.
Well...I didn't like Hugo.
But was entertained by GOTG 2.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:46 PM (xJa6I)

6 3 Is this the chess thread?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 24, 2018 06:44 PM (9SkN+)

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Not nearly as good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 06:46 PM (r2/qu)

7 Don't think I have seen 1 of these movies

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 06:47 PM (aC6Sd)

8 For those of you with long memories, in my first post I called all movies lies. Movies are about manipulation in order to get you emotionally involved with people who never existed during events that never took place. Any emotion you do end up feeling is a manipulation of sight and sound to get you to feel that way.

Holy shit. I think you just figured out why Hollywood is a magnet for leftist idiots.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (/qEW2)

9 'Terror' is coming out. The book is kinda scary, if you are the type scares, but a pretty good read if you like fantastic stuff. Thing is, Terror is the name of the ship, not the monster. Doubt I'll see the movie in the theater.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (zLDYs)

10 Darn it, you're going to make me buy the Amazon Firestick just to watch the silent movies!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (gwPgz)

11 Not nearly as good.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 06:46 PM (r2/qu)



Heh. I really enjoy your movie threads, TJM, but I haven't spent enough sober time on Yondu to understand it. Guess I'll have to, you know, read the post.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (9SkN+)

12 Anyone see 1517 to Paris?

Posted by: The Gimp at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (JlSFP)

13 I have a question. After my tour of Corregidor I'm wondering about movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I've mostly seen movies about the war in Europe.
I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.
Recommendations?

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)

14 My Favorite Year is on TCM as I write.

Peter O'Toole channels Erroll Flynn in the early days of TV. Great comedy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (pV/54)

15 10 Darn it, you're going to make me buy the Amazon Firestick just to watch the silent movies!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (gwPgz)

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There are so many. A bunch on YouTube as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 06:51 PM (r2/qu)

16 Support Hollywood leftists!

Posted by: Ha at February 24, 2018 06:51 PM (MAstk)

17 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:46 PM (xJa6I)
Went to see Hugo a long long time ago with Mrs H, the time spent with her, I regret not in the least, the time I spent watching Hugo, I still think I could have spent that time better at the beach!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 06:52 PM (gwPgz)

18 13 I have a question. After my tour of Corregidor I'm wondering about movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I've mostly seen movies about the war in Europe.
I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.
Recommendations?
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)

=======

The Thin Red Line! By Malick, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 06:52 PM (r2/qu)

19 And part of why Hugo didn't work for me but Guardians 2 did actually ties into the two scenes you list.

Now I did see, and love GOTG, so I had some association with Yondu before this. But the Yondu of the first movie isn't really the Yondu of the second. Largely because the second movie asks you to recontextualize him from the first movie.

So, we see Yondu in a brothel, run by sexbots that...turn themselves off rather than interact with him. He's surrounded by celebrating idiots, his crew (most of whom betray him). He feels isolated and lonely and that's before he gets kicked out of the ravagers. Youndu is showing us guilt that he doesn't show in the first movie and doesn't show in the first half of this movie.

But Hugo, despite less use of CGI felt more artificial. It feels stilted, it feels like I'm being told something rather than shown it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:52 PM (xJa6I)

20 I havent seen Guardians II, but Michael Rooker is such a good actor, it seems to me he almost overcomes the weakness that TJM is discussing. The music might be off, but his anger's obvious. And then, if not sadness, he does a good job expressing something like loss.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 06:53 PM (EzdLW)

21 What's on Svengoolie tonight?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 06:54 PM (+Tibp)

22 Scorsese should stick to mobsters and heresy.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 06:55 PM (EzdLW)

23 I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.
Recommendations?
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)


The Pacific from HBO and the same team who did Band of Brothers is decent. Very different feel from BoB because it's focused more on two particular Marines than a whole company of soldiers, but very much worth watching (even if I prefer BoB).

It's available on AMZN prime.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 06:55 PM (y87Qq)

24 In looking at "Guardians of the Galaxy Volume II" I cannot decide if it's bad writing, bad editing or bad directing.

It could very well be the writers did a good job of developing the back story but the director decided it was unnecessary. Or, the story existed but was left on the cutting room floor.

It also could be that modern studios have decided that character development is secondary, at best, to stringing together a bunch of flash because modern audiences don't really care if the story hangs together.

More than likely, though, I'm just a curmudgeon who thinks most modern movie makers should get off my lawn, because I believe people with ADHD have better focus than a lot of modern movies.

Posted by: Blake at February 24, 2018 06:56 PM (WEBkv)

25 The Pacific from HBO and the same team who did Band of Brothers is decent. Very different feel from BoB because it's focused more on two particular Marines than a whole company of soldiers, but very much worth watching (even if I prefer BoB).

It's available on AMZN prime.
Posted by: hogmartin

I enjoyed Generation Kill much more.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 06:56 PM (+Tibp)

26 WWII Pacific. Different but I love it.

Heaven Knows Mr Allison.

Shipwrecked Marine Robert Mitchum lands on island where the only survivor of a missionary is nun Deborah Kerr. Then the Japs arrive.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 06:57 PM (pV/54)

27 Finally watched The Finest Hour on Netflix (it's dropping off in March). I liked it . Had a Perfect Storm vibe.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (+Tibp)

28 13 I have a question. After my tour of Corregidor I'm wondering about movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I've mostly seen movies about the war in Europe.
I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.
Recommendations?
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)

Guadacanal Diary
With the Marines at Tarawa
The Battle of Midway by John Ford
Back to Bataan with John Wayne
They Were Expendable
The Sands of Iwo Jima
The Fighting Seabees
The Flying Leathernecks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (xJa6I)

29 I thought Hugo was a pretty good movie, but, as happens so often, doesn't do the book justice. Sacha Baron Cohen was a huge distraction.

As far as Hugo v. GotG2 (which I really enjoyed) I'm having a hard time trying to analyze the movies together since they are so different. That said, I'd venture that Hugo's treatment of Papa Georges was more moving - perhaps because he was there to receive the accolades. Both worked in their own way, though.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (akSgU)

30 3000 Miles to Graceland, for me, was one of those movies that at first glance looks like it might be pretty cool. Then it turns out to not be as good as you'd thought it would.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 06:59 PM (EzdLW)

31 Svengoolie movie tonite is "Terror From The Sky."

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (KP5rU)

32 And John Wick still delivers.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (+Tibp)

33 Is this the chess thread?

Posted by: Cicero


(shrugs shoulder)

Sure

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (B4vfZ)

34 Ah. MOO - vees.


They still making those?

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (x25VP)

35 I enjoyed Generation Kill much more.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 06:56 PM (+Tibp)

War movie?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (70cRb)

36 Movies are about manipulation in order to get you emotionally
involved with people who never existed during events that never took
place.


Not always.

Any emotion you do end up feeling is a manipulation of sight and
sound to get you to feel that way.


When it works, it works.

Posted by: Leni R. at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (LAe3v)

37 I have a question. After my tour of Corregidor I'm wondering about movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I've mostly seen movies about the war in Europe.
I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.
Recommendations?

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)



Sands of Iwo Jima with John Wayne. It was on the other night. I forgot how much actual footage they used in the movie for the battle scenes

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (SiINZ)

38 NorthernLurker/Teem- While you are in P.I. perhaps you would like reading Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson. A real cypher.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (zLDYs)

39 Wasn't a fan of 3000 Miles to Graceland, despite the mighty Kurt Russell.

Really disliked Kevin Costner's character and disliked how long and how often he was successful in the movie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:02 PM (xJa6I)

40 And John Wick still delivers.
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (+Tibp)

Agreed. However, if that pos JW2 had been the first movie, there would not have been a sequel. I think JW2 killed the franchise.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 07:02 PM (12Ea6)

41 Iron Sky's tagline: "The Reich Strikes Back"

I gather it's a comedy, a spoof, but that's still pretty damn tasteless.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:02 PM (EzdLW)

42 War movie?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Series on Amazon about invasion of Iraq. I rate it five thumbs up. Way up. But I'm shallow.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 07:03 PM (+Tibp)

43 Recommendations?

...

Read a book.

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:03 PM (x25VP)

44
Empire of the Sun
The Great Raid
Flags of Our Fathers
Sands of Iwo Jima
Hacksaw Ridge

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 07:03 PM (pNxlR)

45 There's a difference between Georges and Yondu as characters; Georges has been brought down low by his own naivety, whereas Yondu has been brought down by his own bad decisions. It's easier to be sympathetic to Georges so we probably respond to him more.

As for manipulating emotions, the movie that takes the cake in this realm is "ET" and I've never liked the film because of it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2018 07:04 PM (l9m7l)

46 The Thin Red Line! By Malick, of course.

Read the book, by James Jones

my favorite author

Ooops wrong thread

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:04 PM (B4vfZ)

47 The Thin Red Line! By Malick, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone


I did not care for the movie. It was far to self-conscious and was trying to hard to be profound. TBH, I think that's true of everything James Jones wrote. From Here to Eternity was one of the most overpraised bits of self-indulgence I've ever read.


Posted by: pep at February 24, 2018 07:04 PM (LAe3v)

48
The other night a discussion about the new Lost in Space TV show got started and Parker Posey will be the new Dr. Smith (sounds awful) but she made a number of good (at least I liked them) indie movies in the 90s. One was called Amateur by Hal Hartley from 1994. It starts with a man with amnesia and you feel very sorry for him and as the movie progresses you start to learn about him. It also has a nymphomaniac virgin in it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 07:05 PM (SiINZ)

49 35 I enjoyed Generation Kill much more.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 06:56 PM (+Tibp)

War movie?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (70cRb)

++++

HBO mini-series about the invasion of Iraq. Excellent series, but nothing to do with the war in the Pacific during WWII.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 07:06 PM (pvjTE)

50
Run Silent Run Deep
Wake Island

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 07:06 PM (pNxlR)

51 The other night a discussion about the new Lost in Space TV show got started and Parker Posey will be the new Dr. Smith
...

The hell she will.

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:06 PM (x25VP)

52 Recommendations?
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)

Wake Island....made in 1942 right after the battle.

They add some humor to make it fun in the beginning where the Marines are goofing off and get in a fight with the contractor who is there to build the airstrip but the story is straight up.

See how many 1903's you see and tell if they are 1903's or 1903A3's......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 07:07 PM (EoRCO)

53 130 My Favorite Year is on TCM at 6pE.

Peter O'Toole channels Erroll Flynn in the early days of TV. Great comedy.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (pV/54)

From last thread but, thank you Ig.

This is such a good movie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:07 PM (xJa6I)

54 NorthernLurker/Teem- While you are in P.I. perhaps you would like reading Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson. A real cypher.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (zLDYs)


Funny story there, I loaned my copy of Cryptonomicon to a reading buddy and he refused to give it back he liked it so much. He did buy me a brand new replacement copy though so I forgave him.

It is one of the few books I have reread at least three times. Peak Stephenson!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:07 PM (gwPgz)

55
The Thin Red Line (1964) with Keir Dullea and Jack Warden

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 07:08 PM (pNxlR)

56 My Favorite Year is on TCM at 6pE.

Peter O'Toole channels Erroll Flynn in the early days of TV. Great comedy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (pV/54)


It's a very funny movie and O'Toole is at the top of his game in it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 07:08 PM (SiINZ)

57 Ignore the IJN biplanes in Wake Island.

Otherwise, pretty good. The Marines did well there, and the surrender was a tad too soon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:09 PM (hyuyC)

58
hile you are in P.I. perhaps you would like reading Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson. A real cypher.
Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM



Now there's a book I wish would be filmed. No, not a movie, a series like Game of Thrones. IIRC, Neal Stephenson himself suggested that would be the appropriate format.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:10 PM (EzdLW)

59 54 NorthernLurker/Teem- While you are in P.I. perhaps you would like reading Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson. A real cypher.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (zLDYs)

Funny story there, I loaned my copy of Cryptonomicon to a reading buddy and he refused to give it back he liked it so much. He did buy me a brand new replacement copy though so I forgave him.

It is one of the few books I have reread at least three times. Peak Stephenson!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:07 PM (gwPgz)

Agreed.

I think The Diamond Age is more prescient but Crypto is his best writing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:10 PM (xJa6I)

60 HBO mini-series about the invasion of Iraq. Excellent series, but nothing to do with the war in the Pacific during WWII.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 07:06 PM (pvjTE)

Sounds geat. I'm in.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 07:11 PM (70cRb)

61 "The Diary of Andy Frank" starring Adam Rippon as Andy, a flaming homosexual persecuted by Nazis ( in the bad way not the 'good' way).

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:11 PM (x25VP)

62 Flags of Our Fathers

Read THAT book too.

And keep a handkerchief handy

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:11 PM (B4vfZ)

63
The other night a discussion about the new Lost in Space TV show got started and Parker Posey will be the new Dr. Smith



Seriously?

Oh, the pain.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:12 PM (EzdLW)

64 All I know is this ... Jimmy Stewart is a bitch in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ... and anybody that thinks different is a RepubCuckLican.

So ? How's things ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:12 PM (fiGNd)

65 This was one of the issues I had with a zombie flick I saw recently: Maggie. It's a low budget indie flick ($1.5m budget, $1.3m boxoffice) whose claim to fame is that Schwarzenegger played the lead as a grief stricken father witnessing his daughter's decline after she is infected.

Actually the movie itself was pretty good, but I think it could have benefitted with giving a background of the relationship before trying to pressure us into feeling Ahnuld's emotions in various scenes.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 07:12 PM (/qEW2)

66 The ending of Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was an incredibly powerful moment for me, as it follows a very heartfelt eulogy by Peter Quill (which was not shown here). Probably the most moving sequence I have ever felt watching a comic book movie adaptation. I'll admit I cried. The music really plays a role in affecting our emotions in the film.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:12 PM (q177U)

67 Still no checkers? Maybe a thread about the Checker Cab. Wheat Chex? Help me out here.

Posted by: PhilDirt at February 24, 2018 07:13 PM (mFD3N)

68 I'd like to see Snow Crash filmed. The Diamond Age hits a little too close to home.

And I do not need a page on eating cereal like in Cryptonomicon. Bad Neil Stephenson, bad.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:14 PM (hyuyC)

69 Guardians of the Galaxy was written and directed by the same person BTW.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:14 PM (q177U)

70 Maybe not exactly a war movie but Stalag 17 is a great movie.

Posted by: X-ray at February 24, 2018 07:14 PM (4fiCC)

71 "I'm not an actor, I'm a movie star!"

Peter O'Toole channeling Erroll Flynn.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:14 PM (pV/54)

72 I'm wondering about movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. ...
Recommendations?
Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)


In Harm's Way starring John Wayne. It is a pretty decent adaptation of the book by James Bassett. Some of characters are pretty unpleasant and many do not survive. I'm pretty sure he based characters on people he served with in the Pacific during the war.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:14 PM (5Yee7)

73 Winter's Bone (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Spare little thriller that's very effective and involving." [Netflix DVD]

Jennifer Lawrence is actually very good in this movie, made early on in her career before some sort of brain trauma turned her into a drooling idiot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 07:16 PM (lYlRK)

74 Recommendation: 'The Legend of 1900.'

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 07:16 PM (oVJmc)

75 "Bewitched" - this hilarious reboot stars a vegan Wiccan transpersyn who marries a confused but idiotic WHITE MALE (hahaha- nazi) and casts spells that make Derrin ignore the obvious bulge in xis thong panties!

Hilarious.

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:16 PM (x25VP)

76
Victory at Sea

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 07:17 PM (pNxlR)

77 Was just watching a bit of "My Favorite Year" on TCM, story of a young writer shepherding an aging, alcoholic star around New York. It's kind of funny, kind of touching; what makes it interesting is knowing that its a fictionalized version of the time a very young Mel Brooks met an aging and besotted Erol Flynn. And the tyrannical manic boss who screams at him every time he sees him is a pretty obvious caricature of Sid Cesar.

I suppose I like it because I like Peter O'Toole in just about anything he's done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 07:17 PM (V2Yro)

78
Any emotion you do end up feeling is a manipulation of sight and sound to get you to feel that way.


This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Steven Spielburg at February 24, 2018 07:18 PM (EzdLW)

79 Hrothgar, I too have read Cryptonomicon 3 times, loaned it out twice and not got it back. One of my favorites, I'm not loaning this one. Aspergers, lost fortune in gold, WW II, slimy lawyers, and a lady diver who would slit your throat. What's not to like?

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:18 PM (zLDYs)

80
OT: Handsome Dan was a Hound Group 2 today at the San Jacinto KC show for his first group placement. He also placed third in the Owner-Handled Hound Group.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 07:18 PM (AaZnB)

81 Remde by Stephenson would be a great movie. Ready Player One for grown ups.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:18 PM (q177U)

82 73 Winter's Bone (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Spare little thriller that's very effective and involving." [Netflix DVD]

Jennifer Lawrence is actually very good in this movie, made early on in her career before some sort of brain trauma turned her into a drooling idiot.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 07:16 PM (lYlRK)

This.

Avoid all her other stuff, but she's solid in this.

I used to think it was a shame she went Hollywood, but she's an asshole.

Fuck her with a broken dick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:19 PM (xJa6I)

83 O'Toole got an Oscar nod for MFY, one of eight. He never won.

First up was for Lawrence. He lost to Gregory Peck in Mockingbird, a movie that couldn't get made today.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (pV/54)

84 and Parker Posey will be the new Dr. Smith
...

The hell she will.


Posted by: skip


Parker Posey is a dame ?

huh.

But parking was always such a manly activity.

Women !

Can't live with 'em, can't park without 'em.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (B4vfZ)

85 Not a war movie, but loved Peter O'Toole in The Ruling Class.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (nWc4E)

86 Winter's Bone (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Spare little thriller that's very effective and involving." [Netflix DVD]

The Paolo, he provides the bone any season.

Posted by: The Paolo at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (ANIFC)

87 86 Winter's Bone (Netflix Rating 5/5 | Quality Rating 3.5/4) "Spare little thriller that's very effective and involving." [Netflix DVD]

The Paolo, he provides the bone any season.
Posted by: The Paolo at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (ANIFC)

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A duty or a service?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:22 PM (hIO5j)

88 Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:14 PM (hyuyC)

Zodiac would have been a good movie as well, and perhaps REAMDE..

Cryptonomicon worked for me because I was working with people like that at the time I read it.

My copy of SevenEves lies unopened

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:22 PM (gwPgz)

89 Hugo was a fantastic book, a quick read and beloved by my kids. I liked the movie, the hidden passages in the station and the link to early cinema, but felt it was badly in need of an edit.

Hugo is the object of emotion as far as I'm concerned. When the toyseller screams 'thief' at Hugo, the toyseller lands on the enemy side of the ledger. only because of his grand-daughter's kindness to Hugo is he allowed to tell his story, and then redeemed.

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 07:22 PM (xGMkv)

90 OM.. that was her first movie. My son had seen and he kept begging me to watch it. She was outstanding in it. I kept hoping she wouldn't turn into another leftist tool, but alas, Hollywood did their job well.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 07:23 PM (dUJdY)

91 "Jane Wwick" - a former Recon Marine/Delta Force womyn gets caught up the Russian mob, falls in love with a dog and avenges her canine-lover's death by killing all the white people.


Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:23 PM (x25VP)

92 Remde by Stephenson would be a great movie. Ready Player One for grown ups.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:18 PM (q177U)


88

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:23 PM (gwPgz)

93 13
I have a question. After my tour of Corregidor I'm wondering about
movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I've mostly seen
movies about the war in Europe.

I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.

Recommendations?

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 06:50 PM (5fRCd)
--------Hell in the Pacific...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063056/?ref_=nv_sr_7

Posted by: davidt at February 24, 2018 07:24 PM (djCea)

94 A duty or a service?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:22 PM

For the Paolo, it is a way of life.

Posted by: Paolo at February 24, 2018 07:24 PM (0dBoU)

95 83 O'Toole got an Oscar nod for MFY, one of eight. He never won.

First up was for Lawrence. He lost to Gregory Peck in Mockingbird, a movie that couldn't get made today.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (pV/54)

Neither of the could.

They've banned To Kill a Mockingbird in Minnesota.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)

96 I'm going to explain to everyone what I see in the combination of District of Columbia vs Heller and 18 U.S. Code 242. In 1947 the situation for blacks in the south looked utterly hopeless - the Jim Crow laws were everywhere, and the southern legal system enforced those laws. There simply was no way out because the truth is - you can't fight city hall. Nobody had the money or enough lawyers to fight even one of those laws all the way to the supreme court.

However after the passage of 18 U.S. Code 242 in 1948 all of those Jim Crow laws became dead letter unenforceable laws. Why? Because passage of that federal law made it a federal felony to deprive anyone of any Constitutional rights. That meant police officers, prosecutors, and judges in the south would not only go to federal prison for that - they could face a death penalty for simply using the implied threat of a gun to falsely arrest somebody ( a false arrest is a kidnapping ) in the process of depriving that person of his rights. All of the Jim Crow laws vanished overnight.

The nightmare tangle of "Jim Crow" style gun control laws all over the country looks equally as hopeless as the situation for blacks looked in 1947. However all it takes is ONE federal prosecutor anywhere in the country to do his job and apply the Heller ruling that the second amendment is an individual right, and simply threaten to apply 18 U.S. Code 242 to a single gun control law and all of the gun control laws in the country will instantly become dead letter unenforceable laws and disappear - just like the rest of the Jim Crow laws instantly vanished in 1948.

Posted by: An Observation at February 24, 2018 07:25 PM (lkOCI)

97 For those who saw Winter's Bone --

How does it portray Ozarkians? Deplorable rednecks? Or with some realistic sympathy.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)

98 He lost to Gregory Peck in [To Kill a] Mockingbird, a movie that couldn't get made today.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (pV/54)


Ironically, a major plot point was a white attorney defending a black man charged with raping a white woman and that attorney exposing the racism of the accuser.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:26 PM (5Yee7)

99 97 For those who saw Winter's Bone --

How does it portray Ozarkians? Deplorable rednecks? Or with some realistic sympathy.
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)

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Like people trapped with little choice in how to get out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:26 PM (hIO5j)

100 Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:18 PM (zLDYs)

AND computer nerds.

BTW, I made the mistake of loaning out my copy of "In the Beginning...Was the Command Line" (which was never returned) and regret it to this day!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:26 PM (gwPgz)

101 98
Ironically, a major plot point was a white attorney defending a black man charged with raping a white woman and that attorney exposing the racism of the accuser.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:26 PM (5Yee7)

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Believe all women.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (hIO5j)

102 This is the main reason I won't watch movies. I will not allow my emotions to be manipulated. Not any more. I will not be tricked or gaslighted. Not any more.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (lwiT4)

103 97 For those who saw Winter's Bone --

How does it portray Ozarkians? Deplorable rednecks? Or with some realistic sympathy.
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)

Hm.

Both?

It's about a hard, hard family that -among other things- cooks a lot of meth.

But it shows the bonds of family, their toughness too.

I'm a filthy Scandi but I didn't think it was bad. Reminded me of folks I knew growing up and met later in life.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (xJa6I)

104 Pacific movies?

'Mister Roberts' is set in the Pacific, though there's no combat, as the ship that the movie takes place on is a supply transport.

Tora Tora Tora!


Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (VAt5v)

105 They've banned To Kill a Mockingbird in Minnesota.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)

Too bad we can't ban Minnesota.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 07:28 PM (EoRCO)

106 97 For those who saw Winter's Bone --

How does it portray Ozarkians? Deplorable rednecks? Or with some realistic sympathy.
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)

Yes.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 07:28 PM (NWiLs)

107 Not so sure To Kill a Mockingbird couldn't be made today, think of all the Leftist bend that could be put in that, it might not even be recognized as a remade.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (aC6Sd)

108 102 This is the main reason I won't watch movies. I will not allow my emotions to be manipulated. Not any more. I will not be tricked or gaslighted. Not any more.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (lwiT4)

I think it's ok to get enchanted, so long as you know what the enchantment is, going in.

It's the sucker punches I hate.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (xJa6I)

109 In Harm's Way starring John Wayne. It is a pretty decent adaptation of the book by James Bassett.


ANOTHER good book !

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (B4vfZ)

110 108
I think it's ok to get enchanted, so long as you know what the enchantment is, going in.

It's the sucker punches I hate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (xJa6I)

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I just feel that Yondu's Raveger stuff is an attempt at a sticker punch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:30 PM (hIO5j)

111 Pacific War movies - Tora, Tora, Tora is a far better portrayal of the Pearl Harbor attack than the later "Pearl Harbor" with all of the angsty "human interest" stories they stuck in to pad the movie out.

I think "Tora, Tora, Tora" is one of my favorite battle movies, because it sticks to strictly telling the story of the actual battle and doesn't junk it up with a whole lot of non-essential stuff.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 07:31 PM (V2Yro)

112 102 This is the main reason I won't watch movies. I will not allow my emotions to be manipulated. Not any more. I will not be tricked or gaslighted. Not any more.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (lwiT4)


Grammie !!! Go watch The Outlaw Josie Wales !!!

It's the Feel-Good Movie of the season. Trust me. You'l love it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:31 PM (fiGNd)

113 I enjoyed Iron Sky entirely too much.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2018 07:31 PM (rnAwa)

114 My copy of SevenEves lies unopened

Of course.

You're outnumbered.

Even with your glasses on.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:32 PM (B4vfZ)

115 "what do you think?"

i didn't like "e.t." because it was just soooo manipulative. spielberg tends to do that in collusion with john williams. but williams, answering that charge, has denied his scores are manipulative.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 07:32 PM (Pg+x7)

116 Speaking of Sid Caesar... some things never change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpn4_QeS7w8

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (/qEW2)

117 So Proudly We Hail - WWII Pacific theatre movie

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (VyOxI)

118 Grammie !!! Go watch The Outlaw Josie Wales !!!
It's the Feel-Good Movie of the season. Trust me. You'l love it.

And remember, Endeavor to Persevere.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (V2Yro)

119 TheJamesMadison's Phone

Just as an aside, but I'd like to thank you for the effort and love you put into this thread. It has become one of my must read blog posts along with the Pet Thread, and the Book Thread, even though I hate all Hollywood scum with the heat of a thousand suns!.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (gwPgz)

120 I think it's ok to get enchanted, so long as you know what the enchantment is, going in.



It's the sucker punches I hate.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (xJa6I)

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I can watch live sports events, such as my beloved Cubbies. I'm familiar with the heartache so I take that into account. Seriously, I really just stick to live sports.



Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (lwiT4)

121 110 108
I think it's ok to get enchanted, so long as you know what the enchantment is, going in.

It's the sucker punches I hate.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (xJa6I)

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I just feel that Yondu's Raveger stuff is an attempt at a sticker punch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:30 PM (hIO5j)

Well, it does take Yondu in a different direction than what we saw in the first movie. The only real sign we saw of his affection for Peter Quill was that last scene when he smiles after being scammed by the mcguffin switcharoo.

But it didn't soften Yondu. He did terrible things, delivering children to their nearly-certain death. His guilt over that was handled pretty well, I thought. Especially in a movie that's basically a comedy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (xJa6I)

122 73 winter's bone worked for J-Law because she doesn't have to move her face very much. She always plays these impassive characters. A big meh.

Posted by: vivi at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (11H2y)

123 I think Winters Bone portrayed the people in the Ozarks pretty decently. I mean they aren't saints.. they cook meth but at least they didn't show them as some sort of missing link of mankind who just drool and grunt.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 07:34 PM (dUJdY)

124 The film montage in the last Hugo clip above is enchanting, Grammie! The old films the real character made are magical.

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 07:34 PM (xGMkv)

125 i didn't like "e.t." because it was just soooo manipulative. spielberg tends to do that in collusion with john williams. but williams, answering that charge, has denied his scores are manipulative.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 07:32 PM (Pg+x7)


I didn't like E.T. because it was retarded.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 07:34 PM (8gDQu)

126 And remember, Endeavor to Persevere.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (V2Yro)


Good advice from a character that knew how to live!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:34 PM (gwPgz)

127 Can't believe I've never seen "A Trip To The Moon" before, although I'd heard about it. Cool.

Now I know why one of my conspiracy-theory friends doesn't believe the moon landing was real ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2018 07:34 PM (BiLU+)

128 I understand a lot of people here don't want to endorse current Hollywood product, and I understand that completely, but I just saw three movies this week that got me in the movie-spirit again. "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri" is a real gem, and Frances McDormand gives one of the best performances of her brilliant career. "The Darkest Hour" is a tightly-scripted glimpse of the great Winston Churchill, brought to incredible life by Gary Oldman, one of the finest actors of all-time. And then, last night, the wife and I watched "Only The Brave" about the heroic firefighters of the Western Fire Front -- we both forgot it was a true story, and snickered a little at the "Top Gun"-esque machismo in the early going, including a little shirtless sports. By the end, we were both weeping like a couple of little bitches. And then they played the credits over a touching song, with the photos of the real guys interchanged for the actors who portrayed them in the movie. Help!

Movies can pack a very powerful punch, and we have been movie fans since our earliest dating days, when we had almost nowhere else to go besides the bar. We used to go to EVERY movie, back in 1981-82. Even the karate ones.

Posted by: Octopus at February 24, 2018 07:34 PM (TjN6o)

129 Operation Petticoat - Cary Grant is awesome and Leslie Caron delicious.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 24, 2018 07:35 PM (MCpv7)

130 TheJamesMadison's Phone

Just as an aside, but I'd like to thank you for the effort and love you put into this thread. It has become one of my must read blog posts along with the Pet Thread, and the Book Thread, even though I hate all Hollywood scum with the heat of a thousand suns!.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (gwPgz)

Ditto that.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:35 PM (IMacf)

131 130 TheJamesMadison's Phone

Just as an aside, but I'd like to thank you for the effort and love you put into this thread. It has become one of my must read blog posts along with the Pet Thread, and the Book Thread, even though I hate all Hollywood scum with the heat of a thousand suns!.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (gwPgz)

Ditto that.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:35 PM (IMacf)

Thirded.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:36 PM (xJa6I)

132 While not a movie, the old multi-part documentary Victory at Sea is good and the much of the musical score is inspired.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:36 PM (5Yee7)

133 "The Black Cauldron" or a Hitchcock? I already watched an animated movie last night (Batman: Gotham by Gaslight), but TBC expires at the end of the month.

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2018 07:36 PM (ANIFC)

134 They've banned To Kill a Mockingbird in Minnesota.


But did they ban mockingbirds ?


NOOOOOOOooooooooo!

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:36 PM (B4vfZ)

135 Octopus.. that's what I told my son after we had seen 3 Billboards. THAT movie made me fall in love with movies again. Absolutely brilliant and Frances McDormand was outstanding as well as Sam Rockwell. Just great movie making.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (dUJdY)

136

Woof!

Posted by: Checkers at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (IqV8l)

137 "ET" was a great movie. Stop being so crusty and curmudgeonly, and let the feelz happen.

Posted by: Octopus at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (TjN6o)

138 I liked Winter's Bone well enough, but the commentary track was amazing. The leftist director went out filming and got her worldview knocked off the foundation. Everything from the poor whites whose homes she used as settings to talking to the military recruiter at the high school - she admitted how shallow her stereotypes were.

But the book was better, and I've recommended it to half a dozen people who don't know what generational poverty looks like. It reminds me of kids I grew up with and how an adult's stupid decision could leave a teenager holding the bag.

Guardians of the Galaxy was the last comicbook movie I saw until Wonder Woman, and I don't think I'll bother with others.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (G8B7r)

139 This theme gave me a great idea for the evening. Extracting insanity emotions.

- Prince of Darkness
- In The Mouth of Madness
- Dark City

Cant decide if I should start with Dark City as a warm of or end with it as a cool down? Also extra caffeine because reasons.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (g4lFK)

140 97 For those who saw Winter's Bone --

How does it portray Ozarkians? Deplorable rednecks? Or with some realistic sympathy.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:25 PM (EzdLW)

++++

It showed a small slice of life in the Ozarks, and the story was connected to the meth business. So, since those in the meth business aren't exactly Rhodes scholars, the characters weren't either.

It really wasn't too bad as far as stereotypes go. More like the people who were lowlifes were lowlifes because of their drug and criminal behavior, not because they lived in the Ozarks.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (pvjTE)

141 Watching Unforgiven right now. I've only seen it a couple of times. I like it though.

Also just finished reading Cold Mountain. Is the movie any good? Cuz the book was really good.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (IMacf)

142 I loved the book Up Periscope as a kid and I thought the James Garner movie was a fair representation. Can't imagine being in a sub in those days.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (MCpv7)

143 While not a movie, the old multi-part documentary Victory at Sea is good and the much of the musical score is inspired.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:36 PM (5Yee7)


My father liked that show, but had to leave the room every once in a while when it was on!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (gwPgz)

144 Guardians of the Galaxy was the last comicbook movie I saw until Wonder Woman, and I don't think I'll bother with others.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (G8B7r)

Well, you picked two good ones.

I'd suggest you add Captain America 2: Winter Soldier to the list.

It works as a movie, not just as a comic book movie, I think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (xJa6I)

145 GOTG2 fell flat completely emotionally. The supposed "love story" between Starlord and Green Girl was just unbelievable.

Posted by: MAGA at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (LnOh3)

146 Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri us my favorite of the year. Great ensemble, great script.

Martin McDonough also wrote and directed In Bruges, one of the best flicks of the last ten years. His scripts have Catholic religious themes.

The SJWs jumped on 3 Billboards because they didn't like that the racist cop has a redemption arc.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (pV/54)

147 The movie Galaxy Quest, in the middle of being a lot of fun and a great sendup of Star Trek, had a tremendously thoughtful and powerful theme that kind of skates by. And its related to your themes here.

Movies are lies. They are deliberate fiction, meant to entertain, certainly, but none of it is true. Its all deliberate falsehood designed to manipulate the audience. Make you laugh, make you thrill, make you cry, make you care, etc.

For a race of beings totally committed to truth and without any concept of falsehood, movies and television were a horrible betrayal. And it brings up something about the very soul of acting and even fiction: you are lying for a living. At some point, does that affect you? Or me? When I write a novel that's a batch of made up stuff, is that a small crime, a petite sin? Have I lied to everyone?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (39g3+)

148 i didn't like "e.t." because it was just soooo manipulative. spielberg tends to do that in collusion with john williams. but williams, answering that charge, has denied his scores are manipulative.

---------

I'm going to see John Williams conduct the Philadelphia Orchestra in April.

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (ANIFC)

149
Operation Petticoat - Cary Grant is awesome and Leslie Caron delicious.
Posted by: rammajamma


You are combining Operation Petticoat and Father Goose.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (IqV8l)

150 125... primordial... "i didn;t like e.t. because it was retarded"...

i hated the e.t. alien because it was preposterous. it couldn't hold its head up on that neck and couldn't possible walk with those little legs.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (Pg+x7)

151 Also just finished reading Cold Mountain. Is the movie any good? Cuz the book was really good.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (IMacf)


In my humble opinion, it is hard to beat that book, but if you liked the book the movie is well worth the time to watch!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (gwPgz)

152 Operation Petticoat - Cary Grant is awesome and Leslie Caron delicious.

Leslie Caron isn't in OP.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (oVJmc)

153 seveneves is an excellent read
There is a female politician Hillaryesque
in fact seveneves is probably her dream come true

Posted by: vizzy at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (s5Khz)

154 'Mister Roberts' is set in the Pacific, though there's no combat, as the ship that the movie takes place on is a supply transport.

Tora Tora Tora!

Posted by: junior

My late father always like "Mr. Roberts" because the Cagney character reminded him of his commanding officer in WWII. He was a 90 day wonder, as they called them, a really obnoxious person, I guess. Cagney played an old Merchant Marine officer, who got a Navy commission.
WWII, the Good War. No, it wasn't. It was a mess of carnage and terror. And a lot of crap that just happened to people that was unnecessary.

"In Harm's Way": there's a brief scene where the meteorologist is giving a forecast prior to the start of the campaign. My HS Chemistry teacher was a Meteorologist in the Navy in WWII, and I swear that character was based on him. The guy looks like my chemistry teacher's brother.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (S6Pax)

155
You are combining Operation Petticoat and Father Goose.

Father Petticoat.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (LATmp)

156 You are combining Operation Petticoat and Father Goose.


Operation Father Goosed the Petticoat ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (B4vfZ)

157 In my humble opinion, it is hard to beat that book, but if you liked the book the movie is well worth the time to watch!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (gwPgz)

Will do. Gracias.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (IMacf)

158 Pacific War movies? Try Midway. One of the best.

Posted by: Exile at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (Fikbq)

159 13 I have a question. After my tour of Corregidor I'm wondering about movies about the Pacific Theatre in WWII. I think I've mostly seen movies about the war in Europe.
I've seen Bridge Over The River Kwai but not much else.
Recommendations?
Posted by: Northernlurker
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My fav is for family reasons. The Enemy Below with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jürgen. They filmed it using the USS Whitehurst (DE-634). My Uncle was a signalman aboard her during cruises around New Guinea and Okinawa among others. During her Okinawa service a Japanese Val crashed forward of the superstructure setting the Whitehurst ablaze. 42 out of a crew of 213 were KIA in that action alone. Destroyer Escorts were tiny ships - they only had a draft of about 9 feet and was 10 yards abeam.

My uncle said the ship was so small that many times Japanese shells would pass completely through the ship without detonating.

Sorry for the sea story but those guys were something.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (tr2D7)

160 Yikes I meant Father Goose - thanks Mr. Peebles. I am mortified.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (MCpv7)

161 Yeah, gotta love those sucker punches.

Started to watch Passenger 57 the other night, I was bored and had never seen it and I like Wesley Snipes.

Not 10 minutes into it comes the first sucker punch.

Sly Delvecchio: "Even though you are being hit on by absolutely beautiful woman, you are determined to maintaining your vow of chastity. You know, you'd make a hell of a republican!"

The movie didn't get any better from there ( e.g., redneck sheriff stereotypes ), so I wound up watching Olympics instead.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (EzdLW)

162 Cold Mountain, the movie was fantastic.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 07:42 PM (dUJdY)

163 Believe all women.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (hIO5j)


Especially if she totes a mattress on her back -- that's a totally sane thing to do.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:42 PM (5Yee7)

164 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074899/

Posted by: Exile at February 24, 2018 07:42 PM (Fikbq)

165 For a race of beings totally committed to truth and without any concept of falsehood, movies and television were a horrible betrayal. And it brings up something about the very soul of acting and even fiction: you are lying for a living. At some point, does that affect you? Or me? When I write a novel that's a batch of made up stuff, is that a small crime, a petite sin? Have I lied to everyone?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (39g3+)

Excellent point!....as I got older I just didn't like going to the movies anymore. I would watch them change real history and make up stuff and think "why am I watching this crapola?" so I stopped.

I always envy people that can watch pure drek and enjoy it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 07:43 PM (EoRCO)

166 Posted by: vizzy at February 24, 2018 07:40 PM (s5Khz)

Looks like I'm going to have to open that book after all!

Thanks a lot ;-)

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:43 PM (gwPgz)

167 Operation Petticoat Junction

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:43 PM (EzdLW)

168 ... "crusty and curmudgeonly".... hmmm... i like that!

thanks!

:-D

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 07:43 PM (Pg+x7)

169 First up was for Lawrence. He lost to Gregory Peck in Mockingbird, a movie that couldn't get made today.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:20 PM (pV/54)

Neither of the could.

They've banned To Kill a Mockingbird in Minnesota.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:24 PM (xJa6I)



What about Tequila Mockingbird? (a Get Smart episode)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 07:44 PM (SiINZ)

170 Pacific War movies? Try Midway. One of the best.

Posted by: Exile at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (Fikbq)




It could have done without the Yoko storyline

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 07:44 PM (SiINZ)

171 This is the main reason I won't watch movies. I will not allow my emotions to be manipulated. Not any more. I will not be tricked or gaslighted. Not any more.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (lwiT4)


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This is why I mostly gave up watching them. It's irritating when you keep realizing "oh, they're just doing this because they're trying to herd me into feeling this way". I don't mind seeing an occasional bit of special effects escapist fare though. The Mummy, for example.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 07:45 PM (/qEW2)

172 119 TheJamesMadison's Phone

Just as an aside, but I'd like to thank you for the effort and love you put into this thread. It has become one of my must read blog posts along with the Pet Thread, and the Book Thread, even though I hate all Hollywood scum with the heat of a thousand suns!.
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (gwPgz)

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You're welcome.

I'll do it until Ace kicks me out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 07:45 PM (hIO5j)

173 Howdy all, we are still binge watching Orange is the New Black. Trying to do 5 seasons in our months subscriptions.

It's good but I think Anyone else watched this?in the 5th season. Is there a sixth? Anyone else watched this?

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2018 07:45 PM (yJ1e6)

174 Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was entertaining but the main storyline they tried to tell was just as flat and empty as the first movie's. Ultimately they work because the character interaction and the spectacle is so entertaining, not because the story is any good. The main characters are so much fun to watch and the wierd stuff going on so distracting and interesting, you don't care how bad the story is.

Basically none o the story worked. You didn't care about Yondu like they wanted you to. The romantic subplots were forced and pointless. Starlord finding his dad had zero impact. The betrayal of his dad was meaningless. There was no investment whatsoever in the storylines or the character backgrounds for the audience to care about. I was more worried about those people about to be engulfed in lime jello than the main characters. I knew they were safe, no matter what took place.

But it didn't matter, because it had a good comic book sensibility: fun, entertaining action and spectacle involving oddball but interesting characters.

So Rocket Raccoon is bitter and pushes everyone away to protect himself. Who cares? So Groot is a bratty tween that can't figure out what a crest looks like and brings a toe instead. the absurdity of somehow getting someone's literal toe to bring was enough in its self, like a Marx Brothers scene.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:45 PM (39g3+)

175 WWII Pacific movies:
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Midway
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Sands of Iwo Jima
Empire of the Sun

Lots more but those came to mind first.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 24, 2018 07:46 PM (pY+s4)

176
They've banned To Kill a Mockingbird in Minnesota.

..

Still legal in America.



Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:46 PM (x25VP)

177 Yikes I meant Father Goose - thanks Mr. Peebles. I am mortified.
Posted by: rammajamma

I read somewhere that Cary Grant hated that movie and his role in it.

Some other good WWII movies in the Pacific:

Up Periscope
30 Seconds over Tokyo
Purple Heart (an aircrew from the Doolittle raid that was captured)
And a Japanese made movie that I have not seen in many years:

I Bombed Pearl Harbor (viewpoint of a Japanese pilot
that ended up getting shot down at Midway)

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 07:46 PM (S6Pax)

178 It could have done without the Yoko storyline
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 07:44 PM (SiINZ)

Nothing is perfect.

Posted by: Exile at February 24, 2018 07:47 PM (Fikbq)

179 Christopher R, the image of reality idea is one of my favorite philosophy mazes. verisimilitude. Fiction that rings true is a creation that excuses all the 'little lies' because they aren't lies. They're stories, products just like a cake or a painting.

They're pieces of craft, or art.

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 07:47 PM (xGMkv)

180 146 Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri us my favorite of the year. Great ensemble, great script.

Martin McDonough also wrote and directed In Bruges, one of the best flicks of the last ten years. His scripts have Catholic religious themes.

The SJWs jumped on 3 Billboards because they didn't like that the racist cop has a redemption arc.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (pV/54)

++++

3 Billboards was a good movie, but it had a significant flaw. The guy who tells the story of raping a woman while she is on fire... Come on. That's even worse than the Rolling Stone story about the girl getting raped on a bed of broken glass.

Even if it was your deepest desire to rape a woman while she was on fire, how does that work? Usually, people don't burn unless you douse them in an accelerant. So, you soak your dream girl in gasoline, set her on fire, and then you are going to try to stick your dick in her?

That one part was so stupid it almost turned me against the whole movie.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 07:48 PM (pvjTE)

181 This is why I mostly gave up watching them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 07:45 PM (/qEW2)


Dude ... try a Double Feature of Blazing Saddles and History of the World.

Stick to the Classics, man ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:48 PM (fiGNd)

182 I forgot most of the movie except that two plus hours is waaaay too long to tell a comic book story, but I thought the best part of Guardians of the Galaxy 2 was the Mary Poppins reference.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:48 PM (ks6bw)

183 Went to the movies for the first time in six years to see the Black Panther. My son wanted to see it. I am not a big comic book guy. The extent of my comic book reading was Mad and National Lampoon.

The film was meh! Plenty of SJW crap, and the fight scenes were too drawn out, like Matrix Reloaded. It was extremely loud and get off my lawn!

Posted by: Concerned Peoples Front at February 24, 2018 07:49 PM (rdl6o)

184 Guardians of the Galaxy was the last comicbook movie I saw until Wonder Woman, and I don't think I'll bother with others.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (G8B7r)

Well, you picked two good ones.

I'd suggest you add Captain America 2: Winter Soldier to the list.

It works as a movie, not just as a comic book movie, I think.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 07:38 PM (xJa6I)


I saw that! In fact, I thought it was so great that I told my folks to see it as one of their date films (the go to lunch or a matinee after their doctors appointments).

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 07:49 PM (G8B7r)

185 Fiction that rings true is a creation that excuses all the 'little lies' because they aren't lies. They're stories, products just like a cake or a painting.

I can kind of accept that, but what if you go on screen or stage and say lines you don't mean, or beleive, or at least didn't come from you? Sell yourself as something you are not?

I thought those little tentacle alien guys had a good point: Why? Why would you lie to everyone like that? Tim Allen's character is helpless, he cannot come up with an answer. He mumbles something about entertainment and tails off, embarrassed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:49 PM (39g3+)

186 Netflix has a Japanese live-action feature Full Metal Alchemist. It has been done it for other A+ anime titles. Jarring for this film to have Japanese actors when the characters were expressly European.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2018 07:50 PM (rnAwa)

187 Ugh, Iron Sky- a movie I looked forward to for 2 years when I saw the first trailer on the youtubes. What a disappointment.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2018 07:50 PM (v3DL/)

188 147 The movie Galaxy Quest, in the middle of being a lot of fun and a great sendup of Star Trek, had a tremendously thoughtful and powerful theme that kind of skates by. And its related to your themes here.

Movies are lies. They are deliberate fiction, meant to entertain, certainly, but none of it is true. Its all deliberate falsehood designed to manipulate the audience. Make you laugh, make you thrill, make you cry, make you care, etc.

For a race of beings totally committed to truth and without any concept of falsehood, movies and television were a horrible betrayal. And it brings up something about the very soul of acting and even fiction: you are lying for a living. At some point, does that affect you? Or me? When I write a novel that's a batch of made up stuff, is that a small crime, a petite sin? Have I lied to everyone?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (39g3+)

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Read A Serious Call to a Devout and Holy Life by William Law for the answer.

Posted by: MAGA at February 24, 2018 07:50 PM (LnOh3)

189 Objective Burma starring Errol Flynn and God is My Copilot are two top WWII Pacific theater film.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at February 24, 2018 07:52 PM (bML9A)

190 If any Morons here are 60+, please visit www.seniorplanet.org to see our picks for 2017 films with empowered, fully rounded older characters or had plots of interest to grownups. We call it the 'aging with attitude" film awards. Take a look and leave a message in the Comments or offer your picks for good movies for older people in 2017.
I am the editor of the website and I gotta get some traction in the comments...or else I'll have egg on my face when the guy they just hired as my boss shows up in two weeks.
thx!

Posted by: vivi at February 24, 2018 07:52 PM (11H2y)

191 Hollywood is ProgCom Propaganda Central.

They hate you and use movies to transmit their deep, abiding hate for everything decent and American.

Why would anyone who is opposed to such a degraded philosophy pay money to the Enemy in order to do this to themselves?

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 07:52 PM (x25VP)

192 The Enemy Below with Robert Mitchum and Curt Jürgen. They filmed it using the USS Whitehurst (DE-634). ...
Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (tr2D7)[/]

In the book by D.A. Rayner, it is a British destroyer versus the German sub and not nearly as sympathetic to the Germans. ANOTHER good book written by a guy that had a lot of experience fighting the subs. The chapter where HMS Hecate rams U-121 is titled "Cold Steel."

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:52 PM (5Yee7)

193 I must admit, I had not considered the notion of being emotionally manipulated by a movie or a book. I do understand how this is a thing with people. My older son is very selective about books and movies, while younger son is more like me, letting his brain just wallow in the moment.

But, yes, there are some movies that are simply ridiculous about the "you must feel this emotion" thing. Other have mentioned ET. As a kid I liked it well enough, but was always uncomfortable with the tugging-at-the-heartstrings thing. I tried watching it a few years ago and was appalled. What utter crap.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:52 PM (IMacf)

194 "That one part was so stupid it almost turned me against the whole movie."

Went over my head. Because I'm an ignoramus.

What struck me more was theatrical conceit of setting up the main characters with story arcs with religious themes. Who's the most damned. Good argument it's the Woodie character.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:53 PM (pV/54)

195 Ah, maybe that's the problem: lines that the actor doesn't believe.

If the story is a vehicle for trickery, it is lies. Lots of films go astray from the truth, that's true.

But your writing endeavors to be true, I'd bet.

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 07:53 PM (xGMkv)

196 To paraphrase someone: Fantasy doesn't say that dragons exist, which is false, they say that dragons can be beat, which is important.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 24, 2018 07:54 PM (rnAwa)

197 Mark Andrew Edwards has a review of Black Panther up, and it rings pretty well with what I've read elsewhere about it: pretty good, excellent casting and main characters, but weak action, subpar CGI (rushed) and fight choreography, and some gratuitous white bashing.

There's a scene in it where black guys... dressed as gorillas... sit around and hoot at a white guy until he shuts up. They call it "barking" but... was it? And how is that not just cringy as hell?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:54 PM (39g3+)

198 the reason movies work is because they are crafted stories, and the reasons stories work such magic on us is because that's how our minds makes sense of the world. We like to think that we just look at facts like some calculating machine, but we don't, none of us do. We craft stories and tell stories to give ourselves and others understanding of what is happening to us, and to them.

Without the stories we tell, there is no understanding of anything. There is no context, there is no explanation. The stories we tell provide that to us, which is why they are such a powerful tool, and why they can be misused.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 07:56 PM (V2Yro)

199 Seveneves is great. It's obvious that one of the characters is actually Neal De Gaus (however you spell his name) but it makes an interesting point about the difference in his public personae and his actual private personality. Then the book jumps forward 6 thousand years. Whuuui? Only Stephenson could get away with that.

Still think Anathem is spectacular. I've read it back to back. Never read a book twice in a row like that before.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:56 PM (Hucnr)

200 Vivi.. interesting site! Well laid out and easy to navigate! I've bookmarked it. The Sam Elliot movie look interesting!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 07:57 PM (dUJdY)

201 (p.s. "big trouble in little china" just started on el rey channel.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (Pg+x7)

202 12 Anyone see 1517 to Paris?

Posted by: The Gimp at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (JlSFP)

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Bueller? Bueller?

I have not, but have only heard negative reviews (mostly from lefties, so discounted) -- and am interested in opinions from the horde.

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (BiLU+)

203 >>>Go watch The Outlaw Josie Wales !!!
It's the Feel-Good Movie of the season. Trust me. You'l love it.

The remake will be called "The Outlaw Josie and the Pussyhats" and will star Chelsea Manning.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (/qEW2)

204 To paraphrase someone: Fantasy doesn't say that dragons exist, which is false, they say that dragons can be beat, which is important.

GK Chesterton. Both CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien were disciples of the man, and had long, detailed discussions on fiction and particularly what they called "Fairy stories" because there was no category of "fantasy fiction" at the time. They were basically in the process of creating it.

Their argument was, along with Chesterton, that these themes and concepts reached people in a way others could and would not, and could be used wisely and judiciously to educate and enlighten people with the truth that they might not otherwise heed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (39g3+)

205 190 If any Morons here are 60+ . . .
Posted by: vivi
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Get off my yard.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (Q0Ghc)

206 I wish I had film of our orange cat Monkeyboy chewing on the raccoon that came in the cat door night before last to help himself to the cat food. Damnedest thing ever. I gotta get a go-pro or whatever they are.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 07:59 PM (zLDYs)

207 No love for Hell in the Pacific? It stars Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2018 07:59 PM (v3DL/)

208 "The stories we tell provide that to us, which is why they are such a powerful tool, and why they can be misused."

At a basic level, The Bible is a bunch of stories the Jews made up so they'd stop acting like the heathens around them.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 07:59 PM (pV/54)

209 Really good movie and book set in the Pacific Theater: The Caine Mutiny.

The catch: it only incidentally has WWII as a backdrop. It could have been set anywhere in history, and doesn't even have to be a war story, Wouk just wrote what he knew. Still flippin' good.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 07:59 PM (y87Qq)

210 (p.p.s. lo pan is not an actual character in chinese mythology!)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 07:59 PM (Pg+x7)

211 My wife like Father Goose a lot - I'll say that it's cute, and I can see why Cary Grant hated it.

It's a good example of a women's WW2 movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:00 PM (V2Yro)

212 Without the stories we tell, there is no understanding of anything. There is no context, there is no explanation. The stories we tell provide that to us, which is why they are such a powerful tool, and why they can be misused.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 07:56 PM (V2Yro)


In the macro ... I get that. That's why State's spend money on Propoganda.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 08:00 PM (fiGNd)

213 Anyone see 1517 to Paris?

Posted by: The Gimp at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (JlSFP)

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Bueller? Bueller?

I have not, but have only heard negative reviews (mostly from lefties, so discounted) -- and am interested in opinions from the horde.
Posted by: ShainS

I saw it last weekend, and I thought it was pretty good. Not great, not profound, just a story well told by Clint Eastwood. The actual guys from the train incident play themselves. It was a little odd from an acting point of view, but an honest tribute to decency and simple heroism. I saw it at a matinee, so it was only 8 bucks.
And my date liked it too.

Go see it if you are interested. I don't think you will be disappointed.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 08:01 PM (S6Pax)

214 If any Morons here are 60+ . . .
..

Check back in about 31 years.

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 08:01 PM (x25VP)

215 (p.p.p.s. still, "big trouble" is a lotta fun.)

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 08:01 PM (Pg+x7)

216 Efram Zimbalist Jr in killer bees movie tonight on Svengoolie

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2018 08:01 PM (UdKB7)

217
There's a scene in it where black guys... dressed as gorillas... sit around and hoot at a white guy until he shuts up. They call it "barking" but... was it? And how is that not just cringy as hell?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


The white guy symbolizes the monolith from 2001.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 08:02 PM (IqV8l)

218 p.p.s. lo pan is not an actual character in chinese mythology!

There are no Chinese girls with green eyes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)

219 Still think Anathem is spectacular. I've read it back to back. Never read a book twice in a row like that before.
Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:56 PM (Hucnr)


150 pages into Anathem: "Why does he have to make up a stupid new word for every damn thing?"
Daily conversation, 450 pages into Anathem: "This English language is dumb and ambiguous, why aren't we just using the perfectly good language from Anathem?"

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 08:03 PM (y87Qq)

220 Holy crap. I just saw a scene in "Fresh Off The Boat" repeat where an Orlando cop spokesman says, "The Orlando Police Department takes crime seriously!" while talking to the grade school's parents about cyber-bullying. Well, the TV series is set in the pre-shootup era. Maybe that's it?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 08:03 PM (ewxPW)

221 209 Really good movie and book set in the Pacific Theater: The Caine Mutiny. "

Oh yes, and marvelous acting performances - first Fred McMurray, who you always think of as a nice easygoing guy, playing the biggest dick you ever met; then Humphrey Bogart, proving he really is a great actor by playing a character totally against his type, and nailing the role; and of course Jose Ferrer who cuts to the heart of everything, and every one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:04 PM (V2Yro)

222 To paraphrase someone: Fantasy doesn't say that dragons exist, which is false, they say that dragons can be beat, which is important.

GK Chesterton. Both CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien were disciples of the man, and had long, detailed discussions on fiction and particularly what they called "Fairy stories" because there was no category of "fantasy fiction" at the time. They were basically in the process of creating it.

Their argument was, along with Chesterton, that these themes and concepts reached people in a way others could and would not, and could be used wisely and judiciously to educate and enlighten people with the truth that they might not otherwise heed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (39g3+)

I think George MacDonald was also very influential with Tolkien and Lewis. McDonald's Lilith is a favorite of mine.

Posted by: Northernlurker-Teem at February 24, 2018 08:04 PM (5fRCd)

223 The white guy symbolizes the monolith from 2001.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Hmmm....

Interesting analysis. I knew that it was not Brian Dennehey (the Monolith).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 08:04 PM (S6Pax)

224 I think one people like cheesy scifi movies is that they are so ridiculous that they can't manipulate you.

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2018 08:05 PM (UdKB7)

225 158
Pacific War movies? Try Midway. One of the best.

Posted by: Exile at February 24, 2018 07:41 PM (Fikbq)


Agreed. So many classic Hollywood stars at the peak of their careers, or at least still in the public eye. 1976.

from IMDB:
Charlton HestonHenry FondaJames CoburnGlenn FordHal HolbrookRobert MitchumMonte MarkhamCliff RobertsonRobert WagnerRobert WebberEd Nelson
James Shigetaand more...........
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Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 24, 2018 08:05 PM (UsCnO)

226 27 Finally watched The Finest Hour on Netflix (it's dropping off in March). I liked it . Had a Perfect Storm vibe.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (+Tibp)

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Heh -- assumed it was some old movie about Churchill.

Looking for it, found "The Finest Hours" (2016) available for Instant Watch, which sounds great and I think we'll watch that tonight -- thanks! Here's the blurb:

"Recounting one of the most heroic tales in the annals of the U.S. Coast Guard, this tense maritime thriller traces the daring rescue of the crew aboard two oil tankers; both vessels were torn in two by the furious waves of a gigantic Atlantic storm.

Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2018 08:05 PM (BiLU+)

227 Fred McMurray, who you always think of as a nice easygoing guy, playing the biggest dick you ever met

McMurray got his start playing hardcore noir guys. He's in several of the best noir films ever made. Then he went and did Disney dad parts, which was the biggest shift of acting ever, until Leslie Nielsen went from serious important authority figure to total cornball slapstick comedy actor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:05 PM (39g3+)

228 Roomy post you got there LCD!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (Q0Ghc)

229 I saw it last weekend, and I thought it was pretty good. Not great, not profound, just a story well told by Clint Eastwood. The actual guys from the train incident play themselves. It was a little odd from an acting point of view, but an honest tribute to decency and simple heroism. I saw it at a matinee, so it was only 8 bucks.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 08:01 PM (S6Pax)

I will see it - probably tomorrow night. Thinking how agonizing it will be for the SJW's seeing a Hadji get beat down will make it worth it alone.

Posted by: The Gimp at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (JlSFP)

230 Still think Anathem is spectacular. I've read it back to back. Never read a book twice in a row like that before.

Posted by: Max Power at February 24, 2018 07:56 PM (Hucnr)


I read it pretty much to the seclusion of everything else until I was done, but I don't think I will ever read it again. Cryptonomicon, Zodiac, Snow Crash, and REAMDE, all more than once! The Baroque Cycle, I might try to reread!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (gwPgz)

231 Dawg... the barrel awaits.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (dUJdY)

232 seclusion<-exclusion

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (gwPgz)

233 No love for Hell in the Pacific? It stars Lee Marvin and Toshiro Mifune.
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2018 07:59 PM (v3DL/)

Great movie but ol' Lee would have whacked the Jap whatshisname in the first five minutes in real life.

I forget how it ends.....been awhile. Do they both kill each other or some such.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (EoRCO)

234 It's like I fell in a well!

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2018 08:07 PM (UdKB7)

235 I think George MacDonald was also very influential with Tolkien and Lewis. McDonald's Lilith is a favorite of mine.

Yeah he was. My mom has several books of letters from Lewis and many of them discuss this concept of fairy stories, which has been helpful to me in thinking through what I do with a Christian perspective. But there are still aspects that trouble me about writing fiction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:07 PM (39g3+)

236 228 Roomy post you got there LCD!
Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (Q0Ghc)

I was expecting a submarine at the bottom!

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2018 08:07 PM (ANIFC)

237 Bogart's roles that I liked best were his villains. Caine Mutiny, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Desperate Hours.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 08:07 PM (EzdLW)

238 Tom, thank you for what you wrote about stories. you remind me of that poem

tell the truth
but tell it slant

and that saying that men die from a lack of what's found in poetry.

literature including film nourishes our psyche.

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 08:07 PM (xGMkv)

239 We need a jump to the end of the comment button.

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2018 08:09 PM (UdKB7)

240 Dawg's post dug its own well

*drops pebble, listens for splash*

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 08:09 PM (EzdLW)

241 But, yes, there are some movies that are simply ridiculous about the "you must feel this emotion" thing. Other have mentioned ET. As a kid I liked it well enough, but was always uncomfortable with the tugging-at-the-heartstrings thing. I tried watching it a few years ago and was appalled. What utter crap.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 24, 2018 07:52 PM

When I saw it, I was appalled that by a scene of the brothers arguing in the restaurant used such foul language with each other in front of their mother and little sister... and in public. "asshole". My mother would have cracked my brothers' skulls open.

When I rewatched it as an adult, I realized that I kind of disliked the whole family and it was a total cheese fest by the time ET arrived.

You know what movie DID hold up from my childhood? The original Karate Kid. The bullying, the kid's bad attitude, the way he finally cried in front of his mother... not over the top.

When I rewatched the movie as an adult, that scene seemed even more pointless.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 08:09 PM (G8B7r)

242 So I saw Justice League the other night, and I was disappointed because I didn't expect to be watching a Hollywood funeral. It was melancholy and basically a downer. meh.

RIP Superdude

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 08:10 PM (bJ0w+)

243 Anyone see 1517 to Paris?

Posted by: The Gimp at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (JlSFP)

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Bueller? Bueller?

I have not, but have only heard negative reviews (mostly from lefties, so discounted) -- and am interested in opinions from the horde.
Posted by: ShainS at February 24, 2018 07:58 PM (BiLU+)


Mrs. Cop and I saw it last week. It was OK but is actually mostly about how these three guys grew up together, went their separate ways and end up back together in Europe for their "Perversion Excursion." (Hey, they're three horny young men so cut them some slack). The one guy, the one that ends up in the Air Force, is a bit of a screw-up but ends up as a medic and taking jujitsu as a hobby (just the skills you need to treat a wounded passenger after you kick the ass of a jihadi). The Lefties probably don't like the fact that the Air Force guy essentially says he was guided towards being on the train by God.

The fight with the jihadi is maybe 5 minutes out of a 90 minute movie. Movie moves slow and is really more a movie of the redemption of the Air Force guy. Rating = 3/5

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 08:11 PM (5Yee7)

244 Midway is a very good movie, escaping greatness with that Japanese girl love interest part

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 08:11 PM (aC6Sd)

245 ... "there are no chinese girls with green eyes"...

there have been others to be sure. there are always others. but you know, mr. burton, the difficulties between men and women. how seldom it works out. yet we keep trying, like fools"

david lo pan

[one of my favorite movie quotes.]

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM (Pg+x7)

246 The Halls of Montezuma starring Richard Widmark And Attack Force Z starring Mel Gibson. Two more worthy Pacific theater movies.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM (bML9A)

247 When I saw it, I was appalled that by a scene of the brothers arguing in the restaurant used such foul language with each other in front of their mother and little sister... and in public. "asshole". My mother would have cracked my brothers' skulls open.

That bothered me a lot too, when I watched it originally when it came out. The language was awful, mom would have just whaled on us for that. It was otherwise kind of a cute movie, but Spielberg CGI'ing the guns out for big flashlights basically ruined the whole experience and film. Now its not even a classic any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM (39g3+)

248 A movie which I think over-manipulates the emotions is Up. Specifically the prologue. I know everybody seems to love that movie and that beginning, but I just got the feeling I was being manipulated. I hated it.

**ducks for cover**

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM (EzdLW)

249 Bogart's roles that I liked best were his villains. Caine Mutiny, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Desperate Hours.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 08:07 PM (EzdLW)



He was a real heel in The Roaring Twenties and Angels with Dirty Faces

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM (SiINZ)

250 Liam Neeson was born to play "Michael Collins," about the IRA leader. But like Midway, they had to stick in a sideshow love story with Julia Roberts that dragged it down.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 08:14 PM (pV/54)

251 The one thing I found disappointing about Midway is they didn't have the budget that other moves did and it shows. If you watch carefully you can see some of carrier accidents (actual footage) being used twice. it bugged me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:14 PM (V2Yro)

252 From Here to Eternity, really great book, movie did not do it justice, but a great cast.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at February 24, 2018 08:15 PM (nWc4E)

253 A movie which I think over-manipulates the emotions is Up.

I agree. I'd heard how great that was and when I saw it I was annoyed, it was too heavy handed, too cloying.

The whole movie was grossly overrated though. The bad guy makes no sense at all, the story is forced and bizarre, it just fails at so many levels. The only good part is the doggy translation collar.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:16 PM (39g3+)

254 I really like Bogie in "Key Largo", as an ordinary man willing to stand up to the Mob Boss.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:16 PM (V2Yro)

255 104 Pacific movies?

'Mister Roberts' is set in the Pacific, though there's no combat, as the ship that the movie takes place on is a supply transport.

Tora Tora Tora!


Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 07:27 PM (VAt5v)


Away All Boats!

With the now nearly forgotten Jeff Chandler.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 24, 2018 08:17 PM (2kiKp)

256 Dawg's post dug its own well

*drops pebble, listens for splash*
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 08:09 PM (EzdLW)

"Tom-fool of a Took! throw yourself in next time."

Posted by: Gandalf the Grey at February 24, 2018 08:18 PM (IMacf)

257 The emotional manipulation stories used to be called Melodrama - it's still all that these are.

Problem is melodrama always was a crowd pleaser.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:18 PM (V2Yro)

258 Let me go on the record and say that 3000k miles to Graceland rocked.
Of course, seeing Courtney Cox getting hammered was in itself worth the price of admission.

Posted by: Drider at February 24, 2018 08:18 PM (HdKKm)

259 We need a jump to the end of the comment button.
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I don't know if it applies to smart-phones but I use ctrl-f and search for the last comment number to get to the bottom fast!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 08:19 PM (ewxPW)

260 The 15:17 to Paris was a date night movie for my wife and I. I liked it a lot, and so did she. But we liked it for different reasons.

I liked how training and will can save people in a crisis. Good people stepped up. And I liked the Trance dance scene. Reminds me of going around Europe in my service days. Just open Americans charming the Europeans.

She liked the growing up and sticking it out when things went bad scenes. And maybe because the guys were fit and funny and a tad hot.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:19 PM (hyuyC)

261 imagine if those young men on the train had been there in Florida instead of those 4 worthless deputies....

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:20 PM (39g3+)

262 'I don't know if it applies to smart-phones but I use ctrl-f and search for the last comment number to get to the bottom fast! '

I meant mostly for Dawg's lengthy blankness.

Posted by: freaked at February 24, 2018 08:21 PM (UdKB7)

263 Nobody has mentioned The Gallant Hours staring James Cagney for a Pacific war movie. Cagney plays Admiral Halsey and his taking command at Guadalcanal. It is filmed a bit like a documentary and has extensive narration. It also shows the Japanese side pretty evenhandedly. Quite a good movie.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 08:21 PM (5Yee7)

264 45 There's a difference between Georges and Yondu as characters; Georges has been brought down low by his own naivety, whereas Yondu has been brought down by his own bad decisions. It's easier to be sympathetic to Georges so we probably respond to him more.

As for manipulating emotions, the movie that takes the cake in this realm is "ET" and I've never liked the film because of it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 24, 2018 07:04 PM (l9m7l)


I had the same reaction to A.I. (Hey! Same. Guy.)

I'll never watch it again.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 24, 2018 08:21 PM (2kiKp)

265 248 A movie which I think over-manipulates the emotions is Up. Specifically the prologue. I know everybody seems to love that movie and that beginning, but I just got the feeling I was being manipulated. I hated it.

**ducks for cover**
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM (EzdLW)

I disagree slightly. To me the first 5 mins is a far better story than anything that comes after. I could have been just as happy if they had just rolled credits at that point.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2018 08:21 PM (ycWCI)

266
From Here to Eternity, really great book, movie did not do it justice, but a great cast.

James Jones's original version is now available and is even better than the published edition. The movie seems deficient except for 1) the Army would not cooperate unless it was toned down and 2) the book could never have been filmed as is under the codes of the day.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 08:22 PM (xN4gZ)

267 200- thanks Jewelll, for the nice comment. "The Hero" is a terrific movie about an over-the-hill western actor but it delves into some deep subtexts... And so is Lucky, with the late Harry Dean Stanton. It was like he was performing his own eulogy. His nickname in the Navy was "Lucky" and like his character, he was a cook in the Navy.

Posted by: vivi at February 24, 2018 08:24 PM (11H2y)

268 I forget how it ends.....been awhile. Do they both kill each other or some such.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 08:06 PM (EoRCO)

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They get off the island they are stranded on and float to another set of islands which they discover has an abandoned base on it. The building they are using for shelter is hit by artillery fire killing both men.

Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2018 08:24 PM (v3DL/)

269 hogmartin, I think the Caine Mutiny actually had a little historical significance. I have a book called "Halsey's Typhoon" in which Bull Halsey sailed his fleet into a really major typhoon. A couple of destroyers were lost in the storm. How the crew handled the ship during a major event was paramount to the story. I believe the personalities of the characters was actually secondary. They saved the ship, and destroyed the captains career.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 08:25 PM (gEvQ8)

270 imagine if those young men on the train had been there in Florida instead of those 4 worthless deputies....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:20 PM (39g3+)

Hey now, let's not get all judgmental and all.
We have our fat pensions and bennies to look forward to.

Posted by: BCSO International Union of Police Associations AFL-CIO at February 24, 2018 08:25 PM (EoRCO)

271 A.I. - a big budget movie no one ever talks about, and I think I know why.

If they would have ended that movie about 15 minutes before they did, with him stuck forever on the bottom of the ocean - it would have been touching and thought provoking. But by having him dug out of the ice by some pathetic "Blue Fairy" 20,000 years later, the story became completely idiotic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:25 PM (V2Yro)

272 245 ... "there are no chinese girls with green eyes"...

there have been others to be sure. there are always others. but you know, mr. burton, the difficulties between men and women. how seldom it works out. yet we keep trying, like fools"

david lo pan

[one of my favorite movie quotes.]
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 08:13 PM

That movie is infinitely quotable. "Shut up, Mr. Burton! You are not brought upon this world to get it!"

My brothers still tell me and each other, "Shut up, Mr. Burton!"

I notice that people mentioned Father Goose. My baby brother saw that a dozen times on TV because a local cable channel would run old movies at staggered times as fillers. He just fell in love with it. I was working crazy hours, but one night when I came home and he insisted I watch it. Even now, he can recite lines at appropriate times like "Goody Two-Shoes and the Filthy Beast?!?"

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 08:26 PM (G8B7r)

273 Angels with Dirty Faces
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With those hoodlum Bowery Boys!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 08:26 PM (ewxPW)

274 There's a scene in it where black guys... dressed as gorillas... sit
around and hoot at a white guy until he shuts up. They call it
"barking" but... was it? And how is that not just cringy as hell?


Yep. That would be the cue for me to get up, take my popcorn and go home. That does not pass as entertainment, at least for me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 24, 2018 08:26 PM (Tyii7)

275 I'm Mary Poppins y'all!

One of the greatest lines in film history. There I said it.

Obviously I'm biased being a huge MCU fanboy, but I thought the payoff was phenomenal, in part because Yondu was a relatively minor character. And yet that scene still brought so much emotion. (It wasn't just about Yondu either, it was about Quill and Rocket, both major characters. Plus c'mon, Mary Poppins.)

As an aside, I love that a huge summer blockbuster action-comedy movie ends with a cgi racoon crying. And it works!

Anyone see Black Panther? Thoughts? Personally thought it was just okay, mid-tier marvel.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at February 24, 2018 08:27 PM (KCgrJ)

276 They get off the island they are stranded on and float to another set of islands which they discover has an abandoned base on it. The building they are using for shelter is hit by artillery fire killing both men.
Posted by: Darth Randall at February 24, 2018 08:24 PM (v3DL/)

That's right! Thanks DR! It is a good movie. They were kinda partying at the end when the shells hit if I remember right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 08:27 PM (EoRCO)

277 I'm late to the thread....has anyone mentioned Speilberg? He is so heavy-handed with the cues on who you're supposed to like, hate, etc. Might as well have cue cards that say: "Emotion you should feel now is _____". He hits you with music. good or bad lighting, camera angles (looking up with the sky for the good guys, etc.). Overkill, buddy.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 24, 2018 08:28 PM (W+vEI)

278 Away All Boats!

With the now nearly forgotten Jeff Chandler.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at February 24, 2018 08:17 PM (2kiKp)

>>>

Yes! "Children helping the mother." I think it's on YouTube.

Posted by: Gref at February 24, 2018 08:28 PM (AMIL/)

279 Wife and I LOVED GG1 one and your review is why we're afraid of the sequel. Also glad to see the first Bourne movie score so high as I agree. It's a damn shame Matt Damon is a fucking dickhead asshole otherwise I'd have as a if a push behind him as any Hollywood actor.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 08:28 PM (IYHxL)

280
What! No love for PT-109? The thrilling story of heroism and great seamanship? Haters!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 08:29 PM (aTPUD)

281 "We're No Angels", Humphrey Bogart, Peter Ustinov, Aldo Ray - a quirky little movie, but a very entertaining one with a very enjoyable cast.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:29 PM (V2Yro)

282 There's a scene in it where black guys... dressed as gorillas... sit around and hoot at a white guy until he shuts up. They call it "barking" but... was it? And how is that not just cringy as hell?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 07:54 PM (39g3+)

WTF? Anyone else feel like they are in bizarro world where something like this is held up as black empowerment?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2018 08:30 PM (ycWCI)

283 If you liked the first Guardians of the Galaxy, you'll like the second. Its the same kind of ride, and the stuff that didn't work doesn't really get in the way at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:30 PM (39g3+)

284 imagine if those young men on the train had been there in Florida instead of those 4 worthless deputies....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:20 PM (39g3+)


That thought had not occurred to me until now, but yes, they would have definitely tried to do something other stand in the parking lot with their d!cks in their hands. I think most people are stunned by that revelation.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 08:30 PM (5Yee7)

285 I disliked "Hugo" intensely. I saw the whole movie once, and part of it later. I thought the whole thing was intensely manipulative, but none of the characters except the boy was the least bit likeable or sympathetic. That made me furious at the movie, because the manipulation was so bald-faced, yet none of it was effective. Yecch. That must the Scorzese movie. I won't bother with any of his other work.

Posted by: The Inexplicable Dr. Julius Strangepork at February 24, 2018 08:30 PM (oGfbI)

286 276
That's right! Thanks DR! It is a good movie. They were kinda partying at the end when the shells hit if I remember right.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 08:27 PM (EoRCO)

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The ending Boorman shot was the two of them arguing and then parting ways. The producers hated that ending, so they used footage from another movie for the explosion.

It's so out of left field that I found it funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at February 24, 2018 08:30 PM (Jj43a)

287 The Georges Melies clips are nice.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 08:30 PM (sdi6R)

288 By the way. As a recommendation. On cable, there is a movie on one of the premiums called "The Autopsy of Jane Doe".

Creepy flick. Creepier than I figured it was going to be.

Posted by: Drider at February 24, 2018 08:31 PM (HdKKm)

289
With those hoodlum Bowery Boys!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 08:26 PM (ewxPW)


Say faddah, whadda say, whadda know

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 08:31 PM (SiINZ)

290 A Pacific Theater film from the Japanese side:

Japan's Longest Day (1967)

Posted by: Gref at February 24, 2018 08:31 PM (AMIL/)

291 Anyone else feel like they are in bizarro world where something like this is held up as black empowerment?

Again, I have not seen it but the youtube reviews by some black guys brought up that this scene was very odd and awkward. Maybe not gorilla suits for that particular bit?? I know there was a guy named Man-Ape who was one of Black Panther's foes (a literal human gorilla type), and they were kinda working that in with the different animal-based tribes. But really, maybe not that particular group for this scene.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:31 PM (39g3+)

292 >>A movie which I think over-manipulates the emotions is Up. Specifically the prologue. I know everybody seems to love that movie and that beginning, but I just got the feeling I was being manipulated. I hated it.



I liked the first 10 min - showing the lifespan of a loving couple with no words. The rest was not good, weird, even.

Also, I'll add this: Brave. Weird, did not work for me at all.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 24, 2018 08:32 PM (W+vEI)

293 The bet Allegorical Movie about the Pacific War from the Japanese Side - "Gojira", 1954.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:32 PM (V2Yro)

294
Away All Boats!

With the now nearly forgotten Jeff Chandler.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer


Chicken guts

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 08:33 PM (IqV8l)

295 Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 08:25 PM (gEvQ

The typhoon really did happen, but the real event, or even the fact that it was a ship at sea during a typhoon wasn't necessary to the story. Not to get all Joseph Campbell all-stories-are-derivative but it could have been an airliner with an engine failure or a corporate boardroom or something and the character dynamics would still make it a good story.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)

296 I liked the first 10 min - showing the lifespan of a loving couple with no words. The rest was not good, weird, even. "

That reminds me of the last 2 minutes of Zardoz. Good music, at least.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 08:34 PM (V2Yro)

297 "Hostiles" is what I want to see, but the theater nearest to me isn't showing it.

Has anyone here seen it?

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 08:34 PM (xGMkv)

298 Gojira vs. Mothra!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)

299 @291 I know there was a guy named Man-Ape who was one of Black Panther's foes (a literal human gorilla type), and they were kinda working that in with the different animal-based tribes
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Man-Ape is a human named M'Baku. I *think* he's a part of a tribe that follows the White Ape totem instead of the Black Panther totem that T'Challa's tribe follows.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (VAt5v)

300 Gojira vs. Mothra!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)



Are those costume ideas for Justin Trudeau if he goes to Japan?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (SiINZ)

301 Gojira vs. Mothra!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)

Gamera FTW! How can you beat a giant turtle who pulls in his legs, and then shoots rocket exhaust out his leg holes?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (Dbv1R)

302 For a different WWII flick, Hope and Glory, John Boorman's semi-autobiographical movie about being a young boy in England having the time of his life.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (pV/54)

303 Another WWII favorite of mine is "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence". David Bowie, Tom Conti. Directed by Nagisa Oshima. Brits in a WWII prison camp. Very thought provoking and you do have to understand a little of the Japanese mind set during WWII, which I did when I first saw the movie. To me, at least, it was a very powerful and moving film.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (gEvQ8)

304 I really hated Hugo.

Posted by: Dang at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (v49Tn)

305 There are two movies coming out that I am wincing and backing away from out of fear.

Super Troopers 2 and The Incredibles 2.

The first ones were so good, so well done, so interesting and fun and hit all the right notes exactly right I can just see them being miserable failures.

The Broken Lizard guys can be great, but they can also really stink up the place. Slammin Salmon was terrible, and Club Dread was just a failure.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:38 PM (39g3+)

306 Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 08:33 PM (y87Qq)

Minor aside, my father rode out that typhoon, He said that from the bridge, you could look over at the adjacent ships and at the crest, you'd see their props completely out of the water!

Now get off my lawn!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 08:38 PM (gwPgz)

307 It ain't Godzilla without that old man raper Ray Burr in it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 08:39 PM (EoRCO)

308 Gojira vs. Mothra!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:34 PM (Sfs6o)



Are those costume ideas for Justin Trudeau if he goes to Japan?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM

I have to clean my screen now. Thanks!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 24, 2018 08:39 PM (G8B7r)

309 Incredibles 2 looks like it could be a train wreck. Pixar has a certain amount of credit built up, however- so we'll see.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2018 08:40 PM (ycWCI)

310 Brad Bird said he wouldn't do a sequel to Incredibles until he had a script better than the first. Trailers are good, so I'm optimistic.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 08:40 PM (pV/54)

311 I *think* he's a part of a tribe that follows the White Ape totem instead of the Black Panther totem that T'Challa's tribe follows.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 08:37 PM (VAt5v)


Thanks, you just completely calibrated that film for me!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 08:40 PM (gwPgz)

312 Bridge on the River Kawi is a really great WW2 movie, I thought. It is a different part of the war, and covers some very interesting themes of dedication, honor, and discipline in a way not normally seen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:40 PM (39g3+)

313 Halsey took his 3rd Fleet into two typhoons.

The Navy changed the priority of weather messages after that, and Nimitz wrote him a reprimand that was still used 40+ years later in my sea-going training.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:41 PM (hyuyC)

314 >>> For a different WWII flick, Hope and Glory

I have seen parts of it a couple times, may have seen the whole thing at a sitting. Very enjoyable story.

Posted by: fluffy at February 24, 2018 08:41 PM (cHbmY)

315 Completely unrelated, but ya'll should get on over to YouTube and just click on any video and you should get one of many brand new NRA ads that are incredibly well done.

Dana Lash (I'm not even going to try to spell it) has the best one by far.

NRA on the offensive!

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2018 08:42 PM (BfOXk)

316 hogmartin, point taken. I can't really say if Wouk used that particular storm as a plot point.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 08:42 PM (gEvQ8)

317 >>The Incredibles 2.


Yeah, same.

Also, Pixar co-founder and chief John Lassiter has turned out to be one of the open secret Hollywood pervs (though not rapey, just grabby, I think?), so....will be interesting to see how this affects Pixar. He may leave, and/or they may go overboard with the grrrl power stuff as penance.

Posted by: Lizzy at February 24, 2018 08:42 PM (W+vEI)

318 Watching Quigley Down Under right now for the 20th time.

Posted by: Sebastion Melmoth at February 24, 2018 08:42 PM (2DOZq)

319 Sure, but the evil white patriarchy would never make a movie called "Gurkha on a Train" about using a kukri to kill a trainful of robbers!

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 08:43 PM (ewxPW)

320 318 Watching Quigley Down Under right now for the 20th time.
Posted by: Sebastion Melmoth at February 24, 2018 08:42 PM (2DOZq)

Said I never had much use for one...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 24, 2018 08:43 PM (ycWCI)

321 King Rat > The Great Escape

Posted by: Sebastion Melmoth at February 24, 2018 08:43 PM (2DOZq)

322 Halsey took his 3rd Fleet into two typhoons.


He was on a relentless hunt for a butter pie.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 24, 2018 08:44 PM (Tyii7)

323 I strongly recommend reading the Great Escape book. Its the movie times like 50. So much more detail, hardship, and what those guys went through is awe inspiring.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 08:44 PM (39g3+)

324 Right now on Pluto TV (streaming online, actually not too bad) . . . the Rifftrax version of Sharknado.

Posted by: filbert at February 24, 2018 08:44 PM (953wK)

325 Minor aside, my father rode out that typhoon, He said that from the bridge, you could look over at the adjacent ships and at the crest, you'd see their props completely out of the water!

Now get off my lawn!
Posted by: Hrothgar

Yeah, my Dad was in that typhoon too, on an LST. He told me they all thought they were gonna die.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 08:44 PM (S6Pax)

326

King Rat

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 08:44 PM (IqV8l)

327 butter wouldn't melt
so he put it in a pie

Posted by: booknlass at February 24, 2018 08:44 PM (xGMkv)

Mini Chess Thread 02-24-2018

20180224 chess pic.jpg
Grumpy Old Farts Playing Chess in Armenia


Pic Note

Looks like a pleasant park to play chess on a Saturday afternoon, doesn't it? The chess set in the foreground looks like it's been used a few times. And the guy on the right looks like the grouchy old geezer who ran the D.A.'s office in the early Law & Order episodes.

Anyway, it's from an article on chess in Armenia that CBD sent my way. Armenia has more grandmasters per capita than any other country.

Since 2011, all children in Armenia from six to eight years old have compulsory chess lessons. It's the first country in the world to include it on the national curriculum.

Now if we could only replace Common Core math with chess, we might actually see an improvement in math scores.

As always, the chess/dress thread is an open thread, so it is impossible to go OT in the comments.


Easier Problem - White To Play (Bain 36)

Black's in a bad way: he's down material and he's in a bit of a jam on the back rank. How does White press his advantage and win?

Hint: Be careful that the rook you capture is the correct one.

20180224 - Problem 1.jpg
4r1k1/3Qrppp/3R4/8/8/6P1/5PKP/8 w - - 0 1

More Challenging Problem - Black To Play (WCSC 254)

The problem here is one I got out of one of my books, one by Fred Reinfeld, where you are given a position and told to find the best move for White (or, as in this case, Black). Oh, and also, this problems is in the "double attack" chapter, so the solution is going to take that form.

Hint: Black wins a piece... or does he?


20180224 - Problem 2.jpg
r6r/pN1bkppp/n3p3/4n3/8/P5P1/1P1BPP1P/1R2KB1R b K - 0 1

Dress Pr0n For the 'Ettes:





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20180224 dress pr0n 02.jpg



20180224 dress pr0n 03.jpg



Traditional Korean dress, because Olympics:

20180224 dress pr0n 04.jpg

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Solutions Update

Easier Problem - White To Play

20180224 - Problem 1.jpg
5rk1/4Qppp/3R4/8/8/6P1/5PKP/8 w - - 0 2

1.Qxe7 Rf8!

Black still loses, but the 'book' line loses even more quickly: 1...Rxe7 2.Rd8+ Re8 3.Rxe8#

After 1...Rf8, there are many ways White can win. As rickl said, Black can run, but he'll only die tired:

2.Rd8 h5
3.Qxf8+ Kh7
4.Qxf7 Kh6
5.Rd6+ Kh7
6.Rg6 h4
7.Qxg7#


More Challenging Problem - Black To Play

The problem here is one I got out of one of my books, one by Fred Reinfeld, where you are given a position and told to find the best move for White (or, as in this case, Black). Oh, and also, this problems is in the "double attack" chapter, so the solution is going to take that form.


20180224 - Problem 2.jpg
r6r/pN1bkppp/n3p3/4n3/8/P5P1/1P1BPP1P/1R2KB1R b K - 0 1

Answer:

This is one of those problems where the book solution is either simply wrong, or, in this case, inadequate. Reinfeld's solution in its entirety is "1... Bc6 wins a piece." I think he means something like 1...Bc5 2.Rg1 Nxb7, but it's not that simple. White doesn't have to go down without a fight.

1... Bc6
2.Bc3! Bxh1
3.f3

Not 3.Bxe5 because of 3...Bxb7 and White really is down a piece.

3...f6
4.Kf2

The bishop on h1 is toast.

4...Rab8
5.e4 Rxb7

If 5.Na5 then 5...Rhc8!

6.Bxa6 Rb6
7.Be2 Bxf3
8.Bxf3 Nxf3
9.Kxf3

So after the dust settles, we see that White has won the exchange, but not a piece. White is up in material, but whether he can squeeze out a win, and how, is not obvious.

This line appears to have been completely overlooked by Reinfeld. In fact, the solutions to pretty much every problem in this particular book of his break down when I run them through my chess app, which always finds a better continuation.


Hope to see you all next week!.

___________

Note: that cryptic line of letters and numbers you see underneath each board diagram is a representation of the position in what is known as "Forsyth-Edwards Notation", or F.E.N. It's actually readable by humans. Most computer applications nowadays can read FEN, so those of you who may want to study the position, you can copy the line of FEN and paste into your chess app and it should automatically recreate the position on its display board. Or, Windows users can just "triple click" on it and the entire line will be highlighted so you can copy and past it into your chess app.

___________

So that about wraps it up for this week. Chess thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to my yahoo address: OregonMuse little-a-in-a-circle yahoo dott com.


Posted by: OregonMuse at 04:58 PM




Comments

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1 Cool, I'll get the corgis

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:53 PM (aC6Sd)

2 The Asian girl in the sun dress is yummy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 04:56 PM (Tnhbr)

3 Armenia has more grandmasters per capita than any other country.

That's cause nobody can understand what They're sayin"

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:56 PM (B4vfZ)

4 Since 2011, all children in Armenia from six to eight years old have compulsory chess lessons. It's the first country in the world to include it on the national curriculum.


Shit. I heard that on the BBC last night and I had something chess-related to contribute to the chess thread.

Shit.

*turns pockets inside out*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:57 PM (fuK7c)

5 Sometimes I want to see just what moves led up to the positions in the problems like the first one.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:58 PM (y87Qq)

6
The Asian girl in the second picture sure gets a lot of work.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 04:58 PM (lKyWE)

7 *turns pockets inside out*

LOOK ! it's Armenian LINT !

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:58 PM (B4vfZ)

8 1 is to easy
Qxe7, Rxe7;
R-d8#

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:59 PM (aC6Sd)

9 From the previous thread:

Insomniac - do you have any hobbies? If so, try to find people with the same interests. I used to do a lot of hiking and volunteered with a trail club doing trail maintenance. Met a bunch of people that way.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (Sfs6o)


Swing dancing and Argentine tango were great for meeting people. You can socialize, dance, and it's only for a few to ten minutes and then you move on. Plus, there are plenty of events in most places.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 04:59 PM (Tnhbr)

10 Game thread game thread game thread!

So... Konami, legendary publisher of the classic game Contra, is NOT covering itself in glory lately. Their first Metal Gear game since their developer Kojima got the sack is a zombie game, 'Metal Gear Survive'.

And... it sucks. Not only does this game feature graphics from a decade ago and laughable AI from *two* decades ago, but they are actually selling save-game slots. For ten bucks.

EA gets lambasted [and rightly so] for selling extra help, for real money, to help win their games. Konami here is being even less subtle. We're getting to the point where you plonk down $60 to get a little ribbon in the box saying A WINNER IS YOU.

sources, both YouTube: Angry Joe (for their pay-to-win mechanic) and Jim Sterling (for how shite this game is).

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:00 PM (6FqZa)

11 1 is to easy
Qxe7, Rxe7;
R-d8#

You speak Armenian ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:00 PM (B4vfZ)

12 The fembots in pic #3 are coming along nicely.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:01 PM (xJa6I)

13 Me likey the sundress pic.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 05:01 PM (89T5c)

14 No one has told the little smiling girl about the patriarchy yet.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:02 PM (pvjTE)

15 Problem 2:

... Bc6

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (8gDQu)

16 2nd picture, gray dress on the right. I'd wear it.


And the toddler is adorable.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (lwiT4)

17
The fembots in pic #3 are coming along nicely.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:01 PM (xJa6I)


You mean pic #4 ?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (lKyWE)

18 I hate pay to win mechanics.

Don't mind paying for a game, but if I pony up the dough for it, I don't want to have to buy power ups or unlocks or anything.

Tell me how much the game is, I'll tell you if I want to play it.

*Grumbles at Tactical Monster Rumble Arena*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (xJa6I)

19 17
The fembots in pic #3 are coming along nicely.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:01 PM (xJa6I)


You mean pic #4 ?
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (lKyWE)

There's the Hungarian Ball Gown pic, then the three women in 50's garb and then the fembot pic, right?

Or is my ad blocker causing sonobi problems again?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:04 PM (xJa6I)

20 I'm surprised at the Hungarian embroidered dress. I pictured something heavier for Hungary. Maybe I've got folk outfits on the brain.



And, Go Norway!

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (lwiT4)

21 Chess in the Hungarian way. Add the Polgar sisters and voila!


https://tinyurl.com/y76qlsla

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (zCyNd)

22 Traditional Korean dress, because Olympics:

Justin Trudeau was wearing one of those dresses when he called up a Canadian olympian guy.

That guy really knows his PR.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (8gDQu)

23
Swing dancing and Argentine tango were great for meeting people. You can socialize, dance, and it's only for a few to ten minutes and then you move on. Plus, there are plenty of events in most places.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 04:59 PM (Tnhbr)
--------
Ha! True story after we'd been dating for a couple of years I moved across town to be closer to WeaselWoman-in-Training. I was so single-mindedly fixated on WWiT I failed to really even notice the single young woman next door, who was a tango dancer, and in retrospect, smoking hot.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (Sfs6o)

24 6 out of 6 of those chess competitors are CC aficionados.

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (bJ0w+)

25 Chess thread Yippee!

First picture.....dress on the right. Looks limber and supple.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (EoRCO)

26 And who has a waistline like that? Didn't they have food back in 1850?

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:06 PM (lwiT4)

27 8 1 is to easy
Qxe7, Rxe7;
R-d8#

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:59 PM (aC6Sd)

++++

If your opponent wants to throw a wrench, Rf8.

I hate it when that guy won't play right.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:06 PM (pvjTE)

28 #1 is easy, so easy both Skip & JT beat me to the solution.


Does the woman in the sun dress have a widowed grandmother?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM (hyuyC)

29
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:04 PM (xJa6I)


I don't have the Hungarian pic

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM (lKyWE)

30 Didn't they have food back in 1850?

They didn't have McDonald's

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM (B4vfZ)

31 When is the checkers thread?

Posted by: PhilDirt at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM (pw0qI)

32 If your opponent wants to throw a wrench, Rf8.

I hate it when that guy won't play right.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:06 PM (pvjTE)


Still Rd8 ends it. Not immediately, but definitely.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:08 PM (8gDQu)

33 Which one are you calling a sundress? Third pic down, the floral? I wouldn't call that a sundress.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:08 PM (lwiT4)

34 sorry to interrupt, but can someone explain why on the last saturday of coverage of the 2018 winter olympics, nbc is broadcasting a program on the 1988 calgary winter olympics?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 05:09 PM (Pg+x7)

35 31 When is the checkers thread?
Posted by: PhilDirt at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM (pw0qI)
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Or tic-tac-toe.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:09 PM (Sfs6o)

36 And who has a waistline like that? Didn't they have food back in 1850?
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:06 PM (lwiT4)


They also had tapeworms and corsets.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:10 PM (Tnhbr)

37 #1 is easy, so easy both Skip & JT beat me to the solution.

I did ?

Hey everybody ! I speak Armenian ?!

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:10 PM (B4vfZ)

38 WOO metacritic user reviews for Metal Gear Surrender-Your-Wallet are going 1.9. Out of 10.

metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/metal-gear-survive

The critics are rating it 61/100. If you trust them (spoiler: I don't).

They also mention that Konami didn't draw up any new assets for this game. I forgot. So this abomination is, literally, about as good as a $10 alpha you can get on Steam by some high school kid.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (6FqZa)

39 We're getting to the point where you plonk down $60 to get a little ribbon in the box saying A WINNER IS YOU.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:00 PM


All your dollar belong to us.

Posted by: Game Publishers at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (DMUuz)

40 Still Rd8 ends it. Not immediately, but definitely.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:08 PM (8gDQu)

++++

Black will move a pawn up to provide an escape for his king. I still tracked him down, but it took 11 moves. I suspect there is a more elegant solution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (pvjTE)

41 Which one are you calling a sundress? Third pic down, the floral? I wouldn't call that a sundress.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:08 PM (lwiT4)


I'm a straight guy. My knowledge of wimmin's fashions is limited. All I know is it looks nice but would look nice piled on the floor in front of my bed.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (Tnhbr)

42 I wouldn't call O girl's dress a sun dress but what do I know about fashion

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (aC6Sd)

43 musical jolly chimp, to up their ratings since they don't have any now.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (QAjh1)

44
The Asian girl in the second picture sure gets a lot of work.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 04:58 PM



Better define "work"
;-)

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:12 PM (EzdLW)

45 I suspect there is a more elegant solution.


BLAM !

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:12 PM (B4vfZ)

46
And who has a waistline like that? Didn't they have food back in 1850? Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:06 PM (lwiT4)


Peoples daily caloric intake was probably less than half of what the average is today

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:12 PM (lKyWE)

47 When is the checkers thread?
Posted by: PhilDirt at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM


This.

Posted by: R. M. Nixon at February 24, 2018 05:12 PM (DMUuz)

48 grammie winger

That's because there is not a "Jane's All the World Dress Types" reference work for us guys. We're needing the help.

And because Colorado Alex In Exile started the sun dress thing. It's his fault.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 05:13 PM (hyuyC)

49 Love the Hungarian throwback dress. Amazingly well preserved.


And of course, the little jelly bean. Her dress is cute, but she is cuter.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 05:13 PM (tnOuI)

50 44
The Asian girl in the second picture sure gets a lot of work.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 04:58 PM


Better define "work"
;-)
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:12 PM (EzdLW)

Or a price rate list

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (xJa6I)

51 I suspect there is a more elegant solution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (pvjTE)


I don't think so. I think Qxe7 is it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (8gDQu)

52 I got nothin' ... nothin' for the entire thread.

I'm just gonna' hang around - make stupid jokes.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (fiGNd)

53 34 sorry to interrupt, but can someone explain why on the last saturday of coverage of the 2018 winter olympics, nbc is broadcasting a program on the 1988 calgary winter olympics?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 05:09 PM (Pg+x7)


Because it had higher ratings?

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (sdi6R)

54 And... it sucks. Not only does this game feature graphics from a decade ago and laughable AI from *two* decades ago, but they are actually selling save-game slots. For ten bucks.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo

Selling save slots? Wow, that's about as low as you can go as a game company.

Posted by: Biergood at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (57HKF)

55 Where's the Pictionary thread?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (JxYR+)

56
the guy on the right looks like the grouchy old geezer who ran the D.A.'s office in the early Law & Order episodes



**still chuckling at that line**

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (EzdLW)

57 but they are actually selling save-game slots. For ten bucks.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo


You know who else sells her slots for ten bucks...

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (Tnhbr)

58 musical jolly chimp, to up their ratings since they don't have any now.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (QAjh1)


If they really wanted to goose their ratings they'd show two hours of Winter Olympic wipeouts from their library.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (8gDQu)

59 15 Problem 2:
... Bc6

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (8gDQu)


OK. And then... what?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (lYlRK)

60 Where's the Pictionary thread?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (JxYR+)


We really need a Who Just Bought an SR9 Thread.

Spoiler Alert ... This Guy.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (fiGNd)

61
52 I got nothin' ... nothin' for the entire thread.

I'm just gonna' hang around - make stupid jokes.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (fiGNd)
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Had your M1A out lately, amigo?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (Sfs6o)

62 I don't think so. I think Qxe7 is it.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (8gDQu)

++++

That's not a solution. That's a first move.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (pvjTE)

63 I got nothin' ... nothin' for the entire thread.

I'm just gonna' hang around - make stupid jokes.

Posted by: ScoggDog


Not in Armenian though, right ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (B4vfZ)

64 In son's private school (middle school age) chess was a required class.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 05:17 PM (JxYR+)

65 Are those old farts Kardashians?

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:17 PM (EzdLW)

66 OK. And then... what?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:15 PM (lYlRK)


Then take the knight, free, when white has to defend the rook.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (8gDQu)

67 Chess introduces the cleavage rule.

https://www.centives.net/S/2012/chess-introduces- a-cleavage-rule/

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (g4lFK)

68 Had your M1A out lately, amigo?
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (Sfs6o)


Weasel ... 'sup ?

I went to the Dark Side.

Hit the range today - and strayed from my Ruger GP100. Shot my old man's SR9c. First five shots - all in the nine ring - 25 feet.

I now own an SR9.

Oh ... and brought the Mini-14 for ScoggSon. He ate it up. I told him ... XBOX don't make a game for that shit, now do they ? Entire firing line cracked up.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (fiGNd)

69 OK. And then... what?


Too easy. Profit!!

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (vWMNq)

70
Are those old farts Kardashians?
Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:17 PM (EzdLW)


No they're Armenians

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (lKyWE)

71 Black will move a pawn up to provide an escape for his king. I still tracked him down, but it took 11 moves. I suspect there is a more elegant solution.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:11 PM (pvjTE)


You can actually force a checkmate in fewer moves. Whether it's more elegant is open to some interpretation.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (lYlRK)

72 The British wing of the horde-

https://tinyurl.com/ydebu2uj

SFW but don't try to drink while reading

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (12Ea6)

73 When is the checkers thread?
Posted by: PhilDirt at February 24, 2018 05:07 PM

This.
Posted by: R. M. Nixon



This is a dress thread, but she has a plain Republican cloth coat.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (fuK7c)

74 Since 2011, all children in Armenia from six to eight years old have compulsory chess lessons.

That doesn't sound like an awful idea. But the screaming from the usuals would be deafening.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (XA9IT)

75 Japanese model with the dyed hair will do. Think we've seen her before.


Two of the Koreans, too. Though that's a very tough barrier to penetrate, from what I've heard. An outrageous, deplorable persistence of traditional approaches, tribal hostility, and possibly murderous male relatives.


I'm sure there are exceptions and that it's improving, slowly - and of course americanized versions are a lot more approachable.


Can't really comment on the dress part. !!!!

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (ETFzT)

76 I have a fever since Monday. No other symptoms. I think it's a Lupus flare. I've been in remission for a couple of years. This really frosts my chapstick. I thought I killed that bugger. Oh well. Beach cover-ups it is.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (lwiT4)

77 In other PayToWin!! news, when the game Paladins pulled this ('Cards Unbound'), the fanbase rebelled by drawing really bad fan art on reddit.com/r/Paladins/. You had to have seen this shit, it's hilarious.

It was basically a stunt to get outsiders' attention. At which, it worked:
youtube.com/watch?v=aSWx3LJI734

Good news tho': the developer has yanked Cards Unbound:
tinyurl.com/y9jmwloo

SORGING WITH POWOR! Anyway, now the reddit is happy again, so the fan artwork is good again.

(As an aside, Gravity Boom seems to be ripping off Jim Sterling's videos. Jim Sterling doesn't monetise his stuff via youTube so he doesn't seem to care much, as long as everyone knows the content is his.)

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (6FqZa)

78 The woman entering the red door... judging by the differences in tint between her face and neck, I think she puts powder on her face. Shade alone can't account for it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (/qEW2)

79 Then take the knight, free, when white has to defend the rook.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (8gDQu)


You're missing a stronger continuation for White.

Honk if you want a hint.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (lYlRK)

80 When is the checkers thread?


My home is a place for repose and contemplation, it is not fodder for your social media voyeurism.

Posted by: Winston Churchill at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (fuK7c)

81 Since 2008, all children in America from six to eight years old have compulsory transgender Tide Pod lessons. It's the first balkanized country in the world to include it on the national curriculum.

Posted by: CNN at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (Tyii7)

82 I think we've seen that third dress picture with gorgeous asian gal before haven't we??

Anyway, I really love the idea of compulsory chess for the yoots in our public schools. That would really teach them all kinds of mental skills. Where do we go to start this movement, the local school board?

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:21 PM (2sCft)

83 Not in Armenian though, right ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (B4vfZ)

We're waiting for Pixy to complete installation of the Armenian joke utility.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, a non-Armenian at February 24, 2018 05:21 PM (zCyNd)

84
When is the checkers thread?
Posted by: PhilDirt


My dog up and died. He up and died.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at February 24, 2018 05:21 PM (IqV8l)

85
Japanese model with the dyed hair will do. Think we've seen her before.

Third appearance.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (lKyWE)

86 Jane, have you been released from MiL purgatory?

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (QAjh1)

87 That doesn't sound like an awful idea. But the screaming from the usuals would be deafening.
Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (XA9IT)


My problem is that I doubt it has much of a positive effect. More likely kids will be turned off because now chess is simply another thing that they had to learn in school.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (Tnhbr)

88 Armenia? Kinda looked like Prospect Park to me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (EZebt)

89 The British wing of the horde-

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (12Ea6)


Aussie.

Sometimes you read a headline... and don't bother with the article because nothing could possibly make it better than it is.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (y87Qq)

90 84
When is the checkers thread?
Posted by: PhilDirt

My dog up and died. He up and died.
Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at February 24, 2018 05:21 PM (IqV8l)

And after 20 years, he still grieves.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (xJa6I)

91 When is the checkers thread?
Posted by: PhilDirt

My dog up and died. He up and died.

Posted by: Zombie Dick Nixon at February 24, 2018 05:21 PM (IqV8l)

But Checkers had threads. Respectable Republican cloth threads.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, canine fashion observer at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (zCyNd)

92 No one has told the little smiling girl about the patriarchy yet.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:02 PM (pvjTE)


========

You're wrong - that was taken early on election day, when she thought that Hillary was winning.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (/qEW2)

93 Yah cute young ladies wearing impossible clothes. I was struck by the young lady wearing the wallpaper -- Oriental lady with long hair. Looks just like the wallpaper my sister was obsessed with and has everywhere she has ever lived.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 05:23 PM (MIKMs)

94 ... hop boy, the documentary started with some background: oprah's first show and big gay rights marches. uh huh. then to the 1988 skating stars: debbie thomas (black) and brian boitano (gay).

it's a sjw narrative instead of coverage of the actual 2018 olympics! and they wonder why their ratings are down?

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 05:23 PM (Pg+x7)

95 That doesn't sound like an awful idea. But the screaming from the usuals would be deafening.
Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 05:19 PM (XA9IT)


It sounds like a fantastic idea. I don't care much about what game you pick ... checkers, chess, seven-card, othello, whatever.

Playing games sharpens minds. Minds will gravitate to the types of games that they prefer. And that's ok.

Anything ... my God, ANYTHING ... that teaches Critical Thinking. And nothing teaches that better, my humble opinion, than hanging a set of rules, a win and a loss, and letting the little cherubs get after it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:23 PM (fiGNd)

96 Checkers was a spaniel, right? Or was he a Beagle?

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (lwiT4)

97 We're waiting for Pixy to complete installation of the Armenian joke utility.

Okay thanks.

I'll just sit here and read War and Peace

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (B4vfZ)

98 That's not a solution. That's a first move.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (pvjTE)


It's a solution in my book. After that move, the win is easy and assured. What more do you want?

The Queen has to move somewhere, first. There's no getting around that. And there's no other half-decent move for the queen that I can see that makes any quicker mate available.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (8gDQu)

99 "No one has told the little smiling girl about the patriarchy yet."

Adorable little girl. Does she have a brother?

Posted by: Harry Reid, with "time" on his hands at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (zCyNd)

100 Japanese model with the dyed hair will do. Think we've seen her before.
Third appearance.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (lKyWE)


I think she's actually Korean. And I've got more photos of her on my hard drive, just waiting to be used.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (lYlRK)

101 I'm actually trying to play chess this tread and forgot the rules. The castles move diagonally or sideways and vertical?

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (g4lFK)

102
68 Had your M1A out lately, amigo?
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:16 PM (Sfs6o)

Weasel ... 'sup ?

I went to the Dark Side.

Hit the range today - and strayed from my Ruger GP100. Shot my old man's SR9c. First five shots - all in the nine ring - 25 feet.

I now own an SR9.

Oh ... and brought the Mini-14 for ScoggSon. He ate it up. I told him ... XBOX don't make a game for that shit, now do they ? Entire firing line cracked up.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (fiGNd)
-----
Hard to beat a day on the range and bringing home a new gun to boot!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:25 PM (Sfs6o)

103 ... hoo boy.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 05:25 PM (Pg+x7)

104 Checkers was a spaniel, right? Or was he a Beagle?

Spaniel ?

He sang "Oh What a Night" ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:25 PM (B4vfZ)

105 Honk if you want a hint.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (lYlRK)


NEVER!!

I'd rather be crushed mercilessly than take a hint.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:25 PM (8gDQu)

106 I'm not a Jim Sterling fan.

He is not Horde material.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:25 PM (xJa6I)

107
No one has told the little smiling girl about the patriarchy yet.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous
========
You're wrong - that was taken early on election day, when she thought that Hillary was winning.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear


The "After" picture shows her with a scowl, a shaved head, tattoos and piercings.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (IqV8l)

108 68 Hit the range today - and strayed from my Ruger GP100. Shot my old man's SR9c. First five shots - all in the nine ring - 25 feet.

I now own an SR9.

Oh ... and brought the Mini-14 for ScoggSon. He ate it up. I told him ... XBOX don't make a game for that shit, now do they ? Entire firing line cracked up.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:18 PM (fiGNd)

I love my GP100 and my Mini-14, too. I haven't had any range time for far to long.....

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (2sCft)

109 Let's twist again...

Posted by: Chubby Checker at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (zCyNd)

110
I think she's actually Korean. And I've got more photos of her on my hard drive, just waiting to be used.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:24 PM (lYlRK)


I think she gorgeous. She should have her own dress thread one day IMHO.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (lKyWE)

111 88 Armenia? Kinda looked like Prospect Park to me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (EZebt)


Nope, it's Armenia, city in the sky...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (lYlRK)

112 Anything ... my God, ANYTHING ... that teaches Critical Thinking. And nothing teaches that better, my humble opinion, than hanging a set of rules, a win and a loss, and letting the little cherubs get after it.

And now you get why we gamers're so pissed off at triiiple aaaaa publishers selling these wins for money.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (6FqZa)

113 So Nixon had a Spaniel and the Bush 1's had Spaniels. I see a Republican trend.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:27 PM (lwiT4)

114 Armenia is one of those places/cultures that cheats by emphasizing education and hard work. Of course the Soviet era took its toll (one of my favorite stories, local employees thanking an NGO we funded for "teaching us how to work" - this in the early 90s).


But in perfectly illustrative contrast, right after the Soviet collapse Georgia dropped Russian language instruction - Armenia of course didn't think of such stupidity.


Language was of course the main weapon of Georgian nationalism in the Soviet era (along with corruption - think Georgia had the record for most republic party officials imprisoned/executed for $$$ corruption of any Soviet republic). So sort of predictable. Think Russian returned to the curriculum after a few years, though not sure it's compulsory/universal.


Love the compulsory chess instruction. Very Armenian. In the blood. Armenian Kasparyan (stage name, Kasparov) must be involved in this somehow.



Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 05:27 PM (ETFzT)

115 I like spaniels.

Posted by: Joe Cocker at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (zCyNd)

116 Grammie, sorry to hear about your lupus flareup. Mine tend to happen when in too much sunlight or unshielded fluorescent lights. Hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (V+03K)

117 I think she gorgeous. She should have her own dress thread one day IMHO.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (lKyWE)


I've thought about it, but decided I don't want to fire off all my ammo at once.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (lYlRK)

118 Tide pod lunchables > compulsory chess courses

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (ks6bw)

119 111 88 Armenia? Kinda looked like Prospect Park to me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 24, 2018 05:22 PM (EZebt)

Nope, it's Armenia, city in the sky...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (lYlRK)

I thought that was Laputa?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (xJa6I)

120 My dog up and died. He up and died.

And after 20 years he still breathes......

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (B4vfZ)

121 Oh and how's your shoulder healing, OM?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (xJa6I)

122 And now you get why we gamers're so pissed off at triiiple aaaaa publishers selling these wins for money.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (6FqZa)


Oh Yeah.

You ever tried Stellaris ? I've been looking at it. Would love to hear a review.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (fiGNd)

123


http://www.presidentialpetmuseum.com/blog/richard-nixon-checkers/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (IqV8l)

124 The "After" picture shows her with a scowl, a shaved head, tattoos and piercings.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (IqV8l)


And she's only 2 feet tall...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (lYlRK)

125 Honk if you want a hint.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (lYlRK)

NEVER!!

I'd rather be crushed mercilessly than take a hint.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPai



Oh, c'mon, let's hear your goose impression......

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (B4vfZ)

126 Grammie, sorry to hear about your lupus flareup. Mine tend to happen when in too much sunlight or unshielded fluorescent lights. Hope you feel better soon.
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (V+03K)


Me Too Grammie ... but sometimes - you gotta' reach down to your Wisconsin Nazi Roots - and just get Mad Dog Mean !!!

And maybe Invade Poland.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (fiGNd)

127 Mrs. JTB - I didn't realize you had Lupus too. Fluorescent bulbs? Huh. I tan once a week on recommendation of one of my other doctors. I knew about sunlight, but I never thought of bulbs. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I'll check it out - Thanks for the info.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (lwiT4)

128 OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker

That little girl is a charmer. Sooo cute.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (hyuyC)

129 And maybe Invade Poland.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (fiGNd)
====================

I would enjoy that.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (lwiT4)

130 My Favorite Year is on TCM at 6pE.

Peter O'Toole channels Erroll Flynn in the early days of TV. Great comedy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (pV/54)

131 I don't think so. I think Qxe7 is it.

Yep. Clever little puzzle. Unless you're Armenian.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (YloZ9)

132 I would be remiss if I didn't mention one more bit of news, this one unfortunately having been mooted by the Trump White House - violent vidja is to blame for shoot shooting. So, let's toss a tax on digital gunplay!
youtube.com/watch?v=kA4wsUnRibI

I humbly suggest to Donald Trump that this concedes the point to the Left, that not only are guns bad but that thinking about guns are bad.

This was an owngoal by President Twitter Happy.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (6FqZa)

133 121 Oh and how's your shoulder healing, OM?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (xJa6I)


Thanks, I'm seeing a new physical therapist, one who specialize in "orthopedic" type injuries (previous therapist was more "neuro", like for stroke victims) and he's got me doing some new exercises. Mrs. Muse tells me that the external rotation has gotten a bit better so we'll keep at it.

It's just so sllllloooooowwww...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (lYlRK)

134 http://www.presidentialpetmuseum.com/blog/richard-nixon-checkers/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (IqV8l)

"Nixon reportedly kept a drawer full of dog biscuits in his desk."

So did Barky, but for other reasons.

Posted by: Miklos, just Miklos at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (zCyNd)

135
Nope, it's Armenia, city in the sky...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker


Who?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (IqV8l)

136 129 And maybe Invade Poland.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (fiGNd)
====================

I would enjoy that.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (lwiT4)

Oh, I'm afraid to look. What is that evil Trump > Hitler up to now???

Posted by: Never Trumper

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (2sCft)

137 I would enjoy that.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (lwiT4)


*Elbows grammie in ribs*

You're a good sport. I like you quite a bit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (fiGNd)

138

Any of you tried the classic ranch Fritos? Pretty tasty.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (Sfs6o)

139 That little girl is as cute as those Chibis.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (YloZ9)

140 27
If your opponent wants to throw a wrench, Rf8.

I hate it when that guy won't play right.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 05:06 PM (pvjTE)


In that case,
2. Rd8 h6
3. Qxf8+ Kh7
4. Qh8+ Kg6

The king can run, but he'll only die tired.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (sdi6R)

141 Korean? That works too. Delicious.


Yerevan like many Soviet republic capitals not touched by WWII is not entirely charmless. Tblisi's got more historic architecture.


My time in Armenia was when electricity was a rarity, meaning water was too. And in winter - the climate of Denver, CO - no heat was interesting.


Was kind of cool walking at night through a blacked out city, though.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (ETFzT)

142 122 And now you get why we gamers're so pissed off at triiiple aaaaa publishers selling these wins for money.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:26 PM (6FqZa)

Oh Yeah.

You ever tried Stellaris ? I've been looking at it. Would love to hear a review.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (fiGNd)

I have Stellaris. It's good. Big learning curve.

I swear all those Pardox games (like Hearts of Iron) make you play and lose for a good 80 hours before you get good at the game.

I mostly play vanilla without any paid DLC.

Fun stuff, make sure you grab any usable territory and keep your defenses up. The AI will sometimes wreck you hard.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (xJa6I)

143 76 I have a fever since Monday. No other symptoms. I think it's a Lupus flare.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (lwiT4


No, it's not.

Posted by: Dr. House at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (NL6wI)

144 I like you quite a bit.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (fiGNd)
==================

Same here, to you ScoggDog.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (lwiT4)

145 Peter O'Toole channels Erroll Flynn in the early days of TV. Great comedy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (pV/54)


MFY is an oft-overlooked gem. And that guy who plays the stand-in for Sid Caesar is hilarious.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (lYlRK)

146 So did Barky, but for other reasons.

Sigh.

Posted by: Zombie Bo at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (Tyii7)

147 You're missing a stronger continuation for White.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (lYlRK)


Hmmm ... I don't see it. I'm sure off the reservation will get it pretty soon, but I'll keep on looking.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (8gDQu)

148 No, it's not.

Posted by: Dr. House at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (NL6wI)
===================

Wasn't there an episode where it really WAS Lupus?

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (lwiT4)

149 Let's twist again...

Like we did last summer ...

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (B4vfZ)

150 You ever tried Stellaris ? I've been looking at it. Would love to hear a review.
Posted by: ScoggDog

I have this on my Steam wish list. It looks great.

Posted by: Biergood at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (57HKF)

151 If Justin Trudeau ever officially visits Japan, he'll force his wife to dress up in outfits like in the last pic.

He himself will appear dressed variously as a shogun, a ninja, and a samurai Hello Kitty.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (/qEW2)

152 Posted by: Zombie Bo at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (Tyii7)
=================


Yeah, where did those dogs go to? PETA?

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (lwiT4)

153 Nope, it's Armenia, city in the sky...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker

Who?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (IqV8l)


Nice catch.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (lYlRK)

154
I humbly suggest to Donald Trump that this concedes the point to the Left, that not only are guns bad but that thinking about guns are bad.


I view it the opposite.Why should the NRA take all the heat everytime some teenage psycho decides to shoot up a school. Hollywood and video game makers should feel a little of the heat themselves.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (lKyWE)

155 I'm thinking ...Bc6 for the second problem, but that looks too easy. I must be missing something.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (sdi6R)

156 133 121 Oh and how's your shoulder healing, OM?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:29 PM (xJa6I)

Thanks, I'm seeing a new physical therapist, one who specialize in "orthopedic" type injuries (previous therapist was more "neuro", like for stroke victims) and he's got me doing some new exercises. Mrs. Muse tells me that the external rotation has gotten a bit better so we'll keep at it.

It's just so sllllloooooowwww...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (lYlRK)

Glad it's going the right way.
You're on the prayer list, so I...um...pray now and then for ya.

Which feels weird to say out loud, so to speak.

But anyway, glad you're healing. You do a lot for us here when Ace is away, you and the other coblogs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:37 PM (xJa6I)

157 Wasn't there an episode where it really WAS Lupus?

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (lwiT4)

It was me in several episodes. Different show, though.

Posted by: Peter Lupus at February 24, 2018 05:37 PM (zCyNd)

158 If Justin Trudeau ever officially visits Japan, he'll force his wife to dress up in outfits like in the last pic.

He himself will appear dressed variously as a shogun, a ninja, and a samurai Hello Kitty.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (/qEW2)



He should go as Godzilla.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 05:37 PM (SiINZ)

159 Yeah, where did those dogs go to? PETA?

Well, I ended up in a PITA. With barbecue sauce.

Posted by: Zombie Bo at February 24, 2018 05:37 PM (Tyii7)

160 I've thought about it, but decided I don't want to fire off all my ammo at once.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM


C'mon OM, you can

Explode into space
Like a true nature's child
You were born,
Born to be Wild!

Posted by: Steppen3Wolves Howling at the Moon at February 24, 2018 05:38 PM (DMUuz)

161 78 The woman entering the red door... judging by the differences in tint between her face and neck, I think she puts powder on her face. Shade alone can't account for it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:20 PM (/qEW2)


I wonder if she wants that red door painted black.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:38 PM (lYlRK)

162 130. Lainie Kazan was great in that.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:38 PM (1F6Sr)

163 My best college girlfriend was Armenian. Grew up in Iran but had to flee because her family was close to the Shah and then that unpleasantness ensued. I never had a real long term chance because her family had already picked out her husband. (My last name does not end in -ian).

From what I've observed, Armenians have a worldwide diaspora, a strong network of ethnic connections, a value on work and education, a practical attitude to finding what success takes, and a history of being genocide victims.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:38 PM (fuK7c)

164 If anyone here donated to the System Shock kickstarter then BAHAHAHAHAH suckers:
youtube.com/watch?v=ROlLSbFSpR4

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:39 PM (6FqZa)

165 Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:35 PM (8gDQu)


I'm clueless ... and last week, I was just wrong. Still trying though.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 24, 2018 05:40 PM (vWMNq)

166 I swear all those Pardox games (like Hearts of Iron) make you play and lose for a good 80 hours before you get good at the game.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (xJa6I)


Mark ... 'sup ?

I friggin' LOVE HOI IV. I like the "inefficiencies" that go with drawing a front, setting the Generals off, and trying to supply all that shit.

Looking forward very much to the next expansion.

Digging the Division Designer as well. Hate the "Death Stack" they've made with the Navy, however.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:40 PM (fiGNd)

167 and a history of being genocide victims.
====================


Well that's not good.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:40 PM (lwiT4)

168 Classic Ranch Fritos Update:

Not so great after eating a bunch. The flavor is a little much.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:41 PM (Sfs6o)

169 132 I would be remiss if I didn't mention one more bit of news, this one unfortunately having been mooted by the Trump White House - violent vidja is to blame for shoot shooting. So, let's toss a tax on digital gunplay!
youtube.com/watch?v=kA4wsUnRibI

I humbly suggest to Donald Trump that this concedes the point to the Left, that not only are guns bad but that thinking about guns are bad.

This was an owngoal by President Twitter Happy.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (6FqZa)

*types*
*deletes*

Pulls out the old PS3 to play.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (g4lFK)

170 Why didn't the Vegas shooting draw the collective outrage that Parkland did? Why is the focus on making schools safe, when we have over 100 opioid ODs every day, many HS kids? We have more kids dying in Baltimore each month, now that BLM worked it's magic to get the Baltimore PD to stand down.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (pV/54)

171 trying to place the vintage dresses...imma say 1945-48.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (1F6Sr)

172 I'm figuring that Nc6+ fits in there ... somewhere, but I just can't find my way there.

Still working ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (8gDQu)

173 166 I swear all those Pardox games (like Hearts of Iron) make you play and lose for a good 80 hours before you get good at the game.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (xJa6I)

Mark ... 'sup ?

I friggin' LOVE HOI IV. I like the "inefficiencies" that go with drawing a front, setting the Generals off, and trying to supply all that shit.

Looking forward very much to the next expansion.

Digging the Division Designer as well. Hate the "Death Stack" they've made with the Navy, however.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:40 PM (fiGNd)

Hey man.

I love HOI4 too. Naval bombers are OP. But I love trying to win as Italy. I have trouble will all the Micro that comes with the US though.

2x arty
1x tank destroyer
rest Infantry works well for infantry divisions. I prefer Mountain for Italy.

And a few airborn divisions make some good early moves.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (xJa6I)

174 No, it's not.

Posted by: Dr. House


Well it's definitely not sarcoidosis.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (fuK7c)

175 Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM (lwiT4)

Aw ... grammie. Thanks. Thanks a bunch.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (fiGNd)

176 whoa, some dev installed malware on PCs to catch a pirate:
youtube.com/watch?v=Qp_yk7m5Vco

As a defence, this is what all devs were doing in the early 2000s, not least EA: SafeDisc / SecDrv.sys. Until Microsoft got fed up trying to work around this trojan and simply blocked it.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:43 PM (6FqZa)

177
MFY is an oft-overlooked gem. And that guy who plays the stand-in for Sid Caesar is hilarious.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:34 PM



Joseph Bologna. O'Toole steals the show, but Bologna was very good.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:43 PM (EzdLW)

178 Nope, it's Armenia, city in the sky...


City in the sky with glasses...



Oh. Wait.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:43 PM (B4vfZ)

179 and a history of being genocide victims.
====================


Well that's not good.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 05:40 PM (lwiT4)


You get used to it.

Posted by: The Juice at February 24, 2018 05:43 PM (8gDQu)

180 The Hungarian term for Armenian is Örmèny.

Pixy sent me a trail pack of umlauts, just wanted to try one out.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar at February 24, 2018 05:44 PM (zCyNd)

181 Why didn't the Vegas shooting draw the collective outrage that Parkland did? Why is the focus on making schools safe, when we have over 100 opioid ODs every day, many HS kids? We have more kids dying in Baltimore each month, now that BLM worked it's magic to get the Baltimore PD to stand down.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (pV/54)



Maybe all of these SJW companies that are cutting ties with the NRA should do the same with Broward County since they were the big farks up involved.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 05:45 PM (SiINZ)

182 Someone should make a "Papers Please" style game about being an FBI agent getting tips on mass shootings.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 05:45 PM (jF/Gb)

183 158. nix the Godzilla, too much toxic masculinity

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:45 PM (1F6Sr)

184 sorry to interrupt, but can someone explain why on the last saturday of coverage of the 2018 winter olympics, nbc is broadcasting a program on the 1988 calgary winter olympics?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 05:09 PM (Pg+x7)

Ummmmmm...No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 05:45 PM (EoRCO)

185 It's just so sllllloooooowwww...

Posted by: OregonMuse,

Reminds me of the George Carlin riff......

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:45 PM (B4vfZ)

186 154
I humbly suggest to Donald Trump that this concedes the point to the Left, that not only are guns bad but that thinking about guns are bad.


I view it the opposite.Why should the NRA take all the heat everytime some teenage psycho decides to shoot up a school. Hollywood and video game makers should feel a little of the heat themselves.
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (lKyWE)

Taxing games is not the way to go. Maybe enforcing the laws on what games can be bought and played by certain age groups and holding the parents and adults accountable. Like buying booze for underage kids.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 05:46 PM (g4lFK)

187 168 Classic Ranch Fritos Update:

Not so great after eating a bunch. The flavor is a little much.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:41 PM (Sfs6o)


I tend to prefer the "original flavor" of any chip snack.

Speaking of which, I bought a bag of Nacho Cheese Doritos in the store this week. Didn't there used to be an unflavored version, or am I imagining things?

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:46 PM (sdi6R)

188 Joey Bologna might be my new handle. Or porn name.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 05:46 PM (jF/Gb)

189 Someone should make a "Papers Please" style game about being an FBI agent getting tips on mass shootings.

With coupons to Dunkin Donuts!

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:46 PM (6FqZa)

190 If Justin Trudeau ever officially visits Japan, he'll force his wife to dress up in outfits like in the last pic.

He himself will appear dressed variously as a shogun, a ninja, and a samurai Hello Kitty.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (/qEW2)



He should go as Godzilla.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 05:37 PM (SiINZ)

You left out Sumo wrestler.
Is there nobody who could help this brain damaged child with protocol?
I had the same question with Obama.
Maybe the problem is that both of these doofi are under the impression they're smart.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:47 PM (5fRCd)

191 Bandersnatch, exactly. Very similar to other national/ethnic groups who also have global diaspora - Chinese, Lebanese, Jews. Gee, it's almost as if there's some secret to success there ..... that has somehow eluded the $1T US "education" industry.


Had an Armenian Iranian cab driver once, going to Dulles for a work trip. Once he found out where I was going, we had a great conversation.


Local liquor store owner is Iraqi Armenian, from Baghdad. We always discuss Mid-East developments when I'm there - other customers look on in complete bafflement, of course, being hamsters instead of citizens, as in most of today's America.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 05:47 PM (ETFzT)

192 Why didn't the Vegas shooting draw the collective outrage that Parkland did"

Country music fans = ok.

plus the left is getting pretty desperate for something to run on...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 05:47 PM (7LY+6)

193
Didn't there used to be an unflavored version, or am I imagining things?
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:46 P



There's probably still an unflavored version at Whole Foods.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 05:48 PM (EzdLW)

194 Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review

How doe HOI IV compare with HOI II? My computer is so old I can't upgrade, and rarely find the time to play. But I did a lot with HOI II.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 05:48 PM (hyuyC)

195 Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:46 PM (sdi6R)
------
Agreed. WeaselWoman, on the other hand, absolutely loves it when new flavors are introduced.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:49 PM (Sfs6o)

196 171 trying to place the vintage dresses...imma say 1945-48.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (1F6Sr)


That's what I'd guess, too.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:49 PM (lYlRK)

197 2x arty
1x tank destroyer
rest Infantry works well for infantry divisions. I prefer Mountain for Italy.


Nice ... 20 width ... I do it similar, but different ...

3 x Mountain
4 x Infantry
2 x Arty

Support Company for AT.

But I could see dropping a Mountain for a Heavy AT.

Cool.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (fiGNd)

198 170 Why didn't the Vegas shooting draw the collective outrage that Parkland did?
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (pV/54)


That's the $64,000 question. Vegas had more than 3x the death toll of Parkland, and crickets.

At this point you have to be retarded not to be a conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (sdi6R)

199 140
re problem #1, after 2. Rd8 h6, it's mate in 4

3. Rxf8 Kh6
4. Qe5+ g6
5. Rxf6+ Kh8
6. Qe8#


Posted by: civil truth at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (t3LBb)

200 Pull the short bus around back and keep the engine running.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (NWiLs)

201 Parkland Hogg and his cronies in the Tide Pod Mob - they're actors. Drama club and with state department ties, because of course.

https://tinyurl.com/y8d4fvgw

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (fA1SL)

202 94 Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review

How doe HOI IV compare with HOI II? My computer is so old I can't upgrade, and rarely find the time to play. But I did a lot with HOI II.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 05:48 PM (hyuyC)

The HOI games change a lot from version to version.

They got rid of the distinction between oil and fuel, you just need oil. Lots of little stuff.

It shouldn't take a ton of horsepower to run HOI 4. Are you on Win 7?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (xJa6I)

203 Didn't there used to be an unflavored version"

Don't think so. They were a West coast thing when I was a much younger mouse...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (7LY+6)

204 Why didn't the Vegas shooting draw the collective outrage that Parkland did? Why is the focus on making schools safe, when we have over 100 opioid ODs every day, many HS kids? We have more kids dying in Baltimore each month, now that BLM worked it's magic to get the Baltimore PD to stand down.
Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (pV/54)

Opoid crisis is caused by cheap Chinese fentanyl being shipped into the USA and Mexico where it is used to make counterfeit opioid pills.

If they allowed doctors to treat intractable pain correctly and not criminalize people who need the medication and take the boot off the doctors things would get better. Also build the wall and punish countries like China and others for making and smuggling in massive amounts of Fentanyl.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (g4lFK)

205 168 Classic Ranch Fritos Update:

Not so great after eating a bunch. The flavor is a little much.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:41 PM (Sfs6o)
+++
I don't know, but I'm kind of reaching a stage in my life where I don't want to consume foods that leave my fingers covered in some strange colored dust that I have to awkwardly lick off like some kind of retarded child....
It means I'm reconsidering some of my favorites, Taco Flavored Doritos, Crunchy Cheetos, Chicken in a Biscuit crackers. Sad!

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (2sCft)

206 168 Classic Ranch Fritos Update:

Not so great after eating a bunch. The flavor is a little much.
Posted by: Weasel

That's okay, I wasn't gonna run out and buy a bag.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:52 PM (B4vfZ)

207 A few problems with taxing - and really, they mean banning - "violent video games": take something like Dead Space. It was horrific. But you weren't shooting people; you were shooting undead monsters. You were there to SAVE people.

A game like that gets M because it is fucking scary, and because there's violence. But no fan of that game is going to be inspired to go kill some schoolkids.

I really don't think the games are the problem.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:52 PM (6FqZa)

208 re 199, correction
Screwed up the numbers and letters

3. Rxf8+ Kh7
4. Qe5+ g6
5. Rxf7+ Kh8
6. Qe8#

Posted by: civil truth at February 24, 2018 05:52 PM (t3LBb)

209 197 2x arty
1x tank destroyer
rest Infantry works well for infantry divisions. I prefer Mountain for Italy.

Nice ... 20 width ... I do it similar, but different ...

3 x Mountain
4 x Infantry
2 x Arty

Support Company for AT.

But I could see dropping a Mountain for a Heavy AT.

Cool.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (fiGNd)

Interesting.

Is there a benefit in mixing infantry types?

Most of my support company slots are used up hospitals, recon, engineers and radio.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:52 PM (xJa6I)

210 You know who else was a drama major and actor?

Richard Spencer.

It's like clockwork with the Marxists.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (g4lFK)

211 Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (2sCft)
-------
I will say that bacon flavored Ritz crackers are damn good!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (Sfs6o)

212 I'm figuring that Nc6+ fits in there

Saw that and there is almost a mate with black's white bishop it white cooperates ... so I'm looking for forcing moves for Black.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (vWMNq)

213 Are the Russians shipping in shit that kills over 100 Americans a day?

Our daily news focus is a tale told by an idiot.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (pV/54)

214 196. the ankle strap on the center girl is a clue. Also the skirts aren't full, so pre New Look.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (1F6Sr)

215 Didn't there used to be an unflavored version"

Don't think so. They were a West coast thing when I was a much younger mouse...
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (7LY+6)

Isn't there a plain version meant for dipping?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (5fRCd)

216 You left out Sumo wrestler.
Is there nobody who could help this brain damaged child with protocol?
I had the same question with Obama.
Maybe the problem is that both of these doofi are under the impression they're smart.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:47 PM (5fRCd)


He should wear "samurai armor" or whatever that stuff is called, looks like bamboo slats, which makes the guy looks like he's wearing a set of window blinds. Yes, I'm culturally ignorant.

Trudeau should totally wear that. He'd really impress the locals. While he's at it, he should stop by Fiji Island and distribute trinkets to the natives.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:54 PM (lYlRK)

217 I'm practically certain there used to be an unflavored version of Doritos.

Now I'm beginning to question my sanity.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:54 PM (sdi6R)

218 Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (2sCft)
-------
I will say that bacon flavored Ritz crackers are damn good!
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:53 PM (Sfs6o)

I've heard nothin' tastes better than tits on a Ritz. Now with Bacon!!

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:54 PM (2sCft)

219 Well .... this feels pretty retarded but ...

... Bc6
Rb8 Bd5
Rf8 Rhg1
Nh4 Rae1



... I'm just flailing, here.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:54 PM (8gDQu)

220 I will say that bacon flavored Ritz crackers are damn good!


On the other hand........

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:55 PM (B4vfZ)

221 If anyone here donated to the System Shock kickstarter then BAHAHAHAHAH suckers:
youtube.com/watch?v=ROlLSbFSpR4
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:39 PM (6FqZa)


So, it sounds like the developers are a bunch of pajama boys who couldn't keep the dev team focused, and make hard decisions about what to keep in versus what to leave out.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:55 PM (Tnhbr)

222 Dave Carver on TCM sounds a little cock-curious.

Looking forward to My Favorite Year, starting now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:55 PM (xJa6I)

223 can someone explain why on the last saturday of coverage of the 2018 winter olympics, nbc is broadcasting a program on the 1988 calgary winter olympics?

We bought the rights, so the Olympics are OURS and you can't have them!

Posted by: NBC at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (ZM6hc)

224 Isn't there a plain version meant for dipping?


Doritos have always been corn chips with orange cancer powder.

Plain versions are called Tostitos, or corn chips, or whatever.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (fuK7c)

225
sorry to interrupt, but can someone explain why on the last saturday of coverage of the 2018 winter olympics, nbc is broadcasting a program on the 1988 calgary winter olympics?
Posted by: musical jolly chimp


Maybe they figured more people would watch that.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (IqV8l)

226 Isn't there a plain version meant for dipping"

Tortilla chip.

El snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (7LY+6)

227 I will say that bacon flavored Ritz crackers are damn good!


On the other hand........
++++
Doesn't sound quite Kosher to me.

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (2sCft)

228 While he's at it, he should stop by Fiji Island and distribute trinkets to the natives.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:54 PM (lYlRK)


He could bring the traditional gift of bottled water, which was invented there.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (y87Qq)

229 The one thing, maybe only so far, that the Vegas shooting did was get Bump Stocks in the evil category. They carry on like every AR is equipped with them.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (aC6Sd)

230 221 If anyone here donated to the System Shock kickstarter then BAHAHAHAHAH suckers:
youtube.com/watch?v=ROlLSbFSpR4
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:39 PM (6FqZa)

So, it sounds like the developers are a bunch of pajama boys who couldn't keep the dev team focused, and make hard decisions about what to keep in versus what to leave out.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:55 PM (Tnhbr)

I'm one of those suckers who backed this...

And yeah, failure at high level, story of almost every software company I've worked at.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (xJa6I)

231 Best cracker for smoked oysters? Carr's or plain saltines.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (Sfs6o)

232 I'm practically certain there used to be an unflavored version of Doritos.

Now I'm beginning to question my sanity.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 05:54 PM (sdi6R)


You're probably just thinking of Tostitos, which came in plain corn chips.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (8gDQu)

233 It means I'm reconsidering some of my favorites, Taco Flavored Doritos, Crunchy Cheetos, Chicken in a Biscuit crackers. Sad!

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:51 PM (2sCft)


I've been eating Doritos for 30 years and I'm surprised they haven't found a way to keep that orange shit from coming off and adhering to fingers.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (lYlRK)

234 I ate some kind of fish or shrimp flavored snack here that did not impress my taste buds.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (5fRCd)

235 Also the skirts aren't full, so pre New Look"

Pre war brit perhaps?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (7LY+6)

236 Problem # 1 (as posted above)
1. QxR(e7) either winning Rook or mate in 2

Problem #2

1. ... Bc3 attacking both Knight Rook winning Knight or exchange

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (1bnL3)

237 I'm just flailing, here.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


OK

Close your eyes

Your a male goose

There's a female goose

And she stands up

And she starts walking.....

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (B4vfZ)

238 Best cracker for smoked oysters? Carr's or plain saltines.

Carr's water crackers. Saltines get in the way. You want to let the oyters shine.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (fuK7c)

239 219
Well .... this feels pretty retarded but ...


You are mixing up a/h 1/8. You mean Na5 (and you meant Nf3+ above instead of Nc6+). But I think you are on to something.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (vWMNq)

240 Did not know this. My Favorite Year was inspired by Mel Brooks having to babysit Erroll Flynn when he worked for Sid Caeser on Your Show of Shows.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (pV/54)

241 FOX has the putzette Judith Miller on saying that since the Rep and Dims on the committee can't agree on anything, that is an embarrassment and the they should move on and focus on Ruskie interference.

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2018 05:59 PM (VWsDy)

242 233 I've been eating Doritos for 30 years and I'm surprised they haven't found a way to keep that orange shit from coming off and adhering to fingers.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (lYlRK)

Imagine what that orange dust and strong black coffee are doing to the color our our bowels.... Sad!

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:59 PM (2sCft)

243 Weasel, WeaselDog has posted previously regarding enjoying graham crackers with peanut butter, in case you're thinking of another snack.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2018 05:59 PM (DMUuz)

244 Scogg, new owner of Ruger SR 9? I got Mrs. Red the SR 9C with a green laser. Fits her hands nicely and she shoots it well. Only downside is the spring is so stiff it's hard for her to rack it.

Posted by: RI Red - well-red at February 24, 2018 05:59 PM (QjpM/)

245 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:52 PM (xJa6I)

Kinda' splits the difference between Infantry and Mountain - little bit better in rough terrain, little bit better morale, little bit lower HP, little bit more cost.

Seems to work when I play Italy ... but I'm no expert.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (fiGNd)

246 242. Nothing a little methylene blue can't fix.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (fA1SL)

247 Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review

I have an Imac. I guess I want divisional symbols and no tactical minuatures on a strategic . operational game. And the HOI navy stuff mostly blows.

Finally, I organize, organize, position, and except for maybe 1 year game time of fun play time, it's all too easy against the AI. Like I'll hold Germany out of WWII until 1945, let the Allies build up a massive force, then outmaneuver them all.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (hyuyC)

248 Imagine what that orange dust and strong black coffee are doing to the color our our bowels.... Sad!
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:59 PM (2sCft)


That's why you spring for the clearcoat.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (y87Qq)

249 Oh ... on my retarded moves to problem 2 I labeled them all upside down ... and some of them backwards. But you all know what I meant.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (8gDQu)

250 will say that bacon flavored Ritz crackers are damn good!


On the other hand........
++++
Doesn't sound quite Kosher to me.
Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (2sCft)

Please don't hate me for asking but an observant Jew eat bacon flavored junk food, which doesn't actually include bacon?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (5fRCd)

251 201 Parkland Hogg and his cronies in the Tide Pod Mob - they're actors. Drama club and with state department ties, because of course.

https://tinyurl.com/y8d4fvgw
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 05:50 PM (fA1SL)

People are wising up and waking up.

For me the point of no return was David Wheeler getting caught playing two parts in Sandy Hook. He is an actor who played a grieving dad and the sloppy Swat team member.. Somebody caught this bozo carrying his rifle around by the clip and pointing it at people and dragging the strap on the ground, which on the news on multiple outlets. And it all falls appart from there.

3 minute clip very related.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1G8LoUk-bf8

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (g4lFK)

252 238 You want to let the oyters shine.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (fuK7c)
+++
I know I want to let my oysters shine!

Posted by: Hope Solo

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (2sCft)

253 Isn't there a plain version meant for dipping?

Those are just tortilla chips. I think Doritos have always been addictive as all get-out.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 06:01 PM (XA9IT)

254 Imagine what that orange dust and strong black coffee are doing to the color our our bowels.... Sad! "

Whoops. Thought you said ... Shep!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 06:01 PM (7LY+6)

255 I've been eating Doritos for 30 years and I'm surprised they haven't found a way to keep that orange shit from coming off and adhering to fingers.

Band aids ?

Rubber gloves ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:01 PM (B4vfZ)

256 The one thing, maybe only so far, that the Vegas shooting did was get Bump Stocks in the evil category. They carry on like every AR is equipped with them.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 05:56 PM (aC6Sd)


And to this day, we know next to nothing about the Vegas shooting, or the shooter. Everyone's clammed right up, and the crack reporters of the MSM are busy inventing Russian connections to Trump. I wonder why?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:01 PM (lYlRK)

257 Winter Olympics used to end with the big hill ski jump, I think. Very dramatic. I did manage to watch some of that in the nordic combined.


I've had reasonable satisfaction watching the live feeds. Nordic skiing events in particular have been great. The men's 50K (marathon) yesterday was classic (no pun intended, it was classic style - they alternate styles every Olympics).


Only whine is that there aren't *enough* event live feeds. I wanted to see more speed skating.


Tastes vary and most here have little interest in winter sports, but I have completely avoided the NBC broadcast horrors people talk about (have seen maybe 5 minutes of that product) - and the ski jump and nordic skiing commentators were fine. Hockey guys had just the expected boring NHL-focus, and were semi-insightful as to what was going on, but no political idiocy.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:01 PM (ETFzT)

258
I've thought about it, but decided I don't want to fire off all my ammo at once.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (lYlRK)


Phrasing

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (aY2X+)

259 243 Weasel, WeaselDog has posted previously regarding enjoying graham crackers with peanut butter, in case you're thinking of another snack.

Just sayin'
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 24, 2018 05:59 PM (DMUuz)
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Heh - you know, I had kind of forgotten that! I'm sure WD hasn't though.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (Sfs6o)

260 234 I ate some kind of fish or shrimp flavored snack here that did not impress my taste buds.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (5fRCd)

I get that A LOT

Posted by: CANKLES SCHMUNDIE at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (VWsDy)

261 255. Finger cots, like cash-handlers wear?

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (fA1SL)

262 OK

Close your eyes

Your a male goose

There's a female goose

And she stands up

And she starts walking.....

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (B4vfZ)


FFFRREEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOMMMMMM!!!!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 06:03 PM (8gDQu)

263 been eating Doritos for 30 years and I'm surprised they haven't found a way to keep that orange shit from coming off and adhering to fingers.

Band aids ?

Rubber gloves ?
Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:01 PM (B4vfZ

Little bowls of water?

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 06:03 PM (5fRCd)

264 Just got back from the old quarry after squeezing off ~200 rounds of 9mm ball ammo. I was testing some new Magpul PMAG GL9's magazines. I purchased three 17 round and three 10 round to fit a G17 and G26. Flawless loading and feeding. $13 a piece. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Under Fire at February 24, 2018 06:03 PM (r9UYA)

265 235. my image went away, but from what I recall the hair didn't match styles of the late 30s. The photo did have an English feel though.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:04 PM (1F6Sr)

266 Shine on, you crazy oysters.

Posted by: Pink Droid at February 24, 2018 06:04 PM (Tyii7)

267 263. Tiny little bubbles....

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:04 PM (fA1SL)

268 I ate some kind of fish or shrimp flavored snack here that did not impress my taste buds.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (5fRCd)

I get that A LOT
Posted by: CANKLES SCHMUNDIE at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (VWsDy)

I just threw up in my mouth.

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 06:04 PM (5fRCd)

269 1. ... Bc3 attacking both Knight Rook winning Knight or exchange
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (1bnL3)


1...Bc6 is a start. Now find White's strongest continuation.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:05 PM (lYlRK)

270 232
You're probably just thinking of Tostitos, which came in plain corn chips.
Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (8gDQu)


I could swear there used to be unflavored Doritos! I feel like I'm a Twilight Zone episode where I'm the only one who remembers them.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:05 PM (sdi6R)

271 FFFRREEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDOOOMMMMMM!!!!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair


LOL

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:05 PM (B4vfZ)

272 No way NOLA Hoolies still has an oyster hour. Anyone know ??

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2018 06:05 PM (VWsDy)

273 Please don't hate me for asking but an observant Jew eat bacon flavored junk food, which doesn't actually include bacon?
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (5fRCd)


Yeah. Bacon Salt is certified kosher.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 06:06 PM (y87Qq)

274 Thanks, I'm seeing a new physical therapist, one who specialize in "orthopedic" type injuries (previous therapist was more "neuro", like for stroke victims) and he's got me doing some new exercises. Mrs. Muse tells me that the external rotation has gotten a bit better so we'll keep at it.

It's just so sllllloooooowwww...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:33 PM (lYlRK)

++++

Are you able to make a daily measure of your status? I think it helps if you can see a quantifiable measure of your progress, even if it is slow. If you have a number, even something small that comes out to say 1% improvement per week, you can still have some kind of idea how long the road is.

If you don't have a definitive measure, combined with slow progress, it seems like you are stuck in sort of the same place forever.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at February 24, 2018 06:06 PM (pvjTE)

275 270. Know how ya feel. This week i learned that there was a fifth roommate on The Young Ones.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:06 PM (fA1SL)

276 Tiny little bubbles....

In the wine......

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM (B4vfZ)

277 264 You want to let the oyters shine.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (fuK7c)
+++
Huh? Good to know the Glock mags can be expensive. But I do luv me those extended 22 round mags for my G22!!

Posted by: SteveOReno at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM (2sCft)

278 If Justin Trudeau ever officially visits Japan, he'll force his wife to dress up in outfits like in the last pic.

He himself will appear dressed variously as a shogun, a ninja, and a samurai Hello Kitty.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 05:36 PM (/qEW2)



I hear the Enola Gay is a popular costume over there. And if they tell him it's gay gay he might fall for it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM (SiINZ)

279 Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:05 PM (sdi6R)
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Now that you mention it, I sort of recall that too. Before all the super-nachoey business.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM (Sfs6o)

280 268 I ate some kind of fish or shrimp flavored snack here that did not impress my taste buds.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (5fRCd)

I get that A LOT
Posted by: CANKLES SCHMUNDIE at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (VWsDy)

I just threw up in my mouth.
Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018

See above

Posted by: CANKLES SCHMUNDIE at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM (VWsDy)

281 258
I've thought about it, but decided I don't want to fire off all my ammo at once.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (lYlRK)

Phrasing

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 06:02 PM (aY2X+)


You're lucky I deleted my original, which used the phrase "blowing my wad."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM (lYlRK)

282 247 Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review

I have an Imac. I guess I want divisional symbols and no tactical minuatures on a strategic . operational game. And the HOI navy stuff mostly blows.

Finally, I organize, organize, position, and except for maybe 1 year game time of fun play time, it's all too easy against the AI. Like I'll hold Germany out of WWII until 1945, let the Allies build up a massive force, then outmaneuver them all.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:00 PM (hyuyC)

The AI does make some elementary mistakes.

I like to go to war early, before Russia gets over the effect of the Great Purge.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:08 PM (xJa6I)

283 I could swear there used to be unflavored Doritos! I feel like I'm a Twilight Zone episode where I'm the only one who remembers them.
======

Don't feel bad.

Posted by: The Berenstain Bears at February 24, 2018 06:08 PM (RFYR/)

284 I could swear there used to be unflavored Doritos! I feel like I'm a Twilight Zone episode where I'm the only one who remembers them.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:05 PM (sdi6R)


There has never been unflavored Doritos. You're obviously hallucinating.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:09 PM (lYlRK)

285 1...Bc3 is a start. Now find White's strongest continuation.

2. Bb4+

is forcing but I don't see anything further ... same with

2. Bg5+

In both cases black has an obvious response and I don't see anything obvious for white afterwards.

Posted by: Off the reservation at February 24, 2018 06:09 PM (vWMNq)

286 And here's a question... Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small? I checked and that little box is supposed to contain TEN servings.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:09 PM (Sfs6o)

287 https://www.twitch.tv/chess

Weekend speed chess tourney with some big names incl. Magnus. Plus a cute girl casting!

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 24, 2018 06:09 PM (V8zw+)

288 Just tested all my 1911 magazines this week (well, not the very nice Wilson Combat ones, no need to do that). Had a bunch of malfunctions at shootin' match last weekend. Guess then, now confirmed - slightly under-charged rounds resulted in incomplete cycling, so new round was not properly stripped from mag on slide return to battery.


Have a mixed bag of mags - some Brownell's, some surplus from CMP, and some Colt and McCormack that came with the gun (used).


Almost disappointed. Brownell's has good Wilson mags on sale at a pretty discounted price, now it's harder to justify buying any.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:10 PM (ETFzT)

289 Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small?

Because they're awful?

Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at February 24, 2018 06:11 PM (Tyii7)

290 240. I cut the cord, so cannot enjoy MFY with the morons this eve.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:11 PM (1F6Sr)

291 The correctly labeled moves for problem 2:

..... Bc6
Rg1 Rab8
Na5 Be4
Rbc1 Rhd8
f3 Bxf3
exf3 Rxb2


...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 06:11 PM (8gDQu)

292 230 221 If anyone here donated to the System Shock kickstarter then BAHAHAHAHAH suckers:
youtube.com/watch?v=ROlLSbFSpR4
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 05:39 PM (6FqZa)

So, it sounds like the developers are a bunch of pajama boys who couldn't keep the dev team focused, and make hard decisions about what to keep in versus what to leave out.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at February 24, 2018 05:55 PM (Tnhbr)

I'm one of those suckers who backed this...

And yeah, failure at high level, story of almost every software company I've worked at.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 05:57 PM (xJa6I)


Hobby game designer here. 4 devs, 1 tester, 2 content creators. No managers. Lots of fun!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (di1hb)

293 Oh dear:

The very first Doritos were sort of plain-flavored. American consumers found the chips kind of plain without sauce, so Frito-Lay gave them a sort of Mexican seasoning called "Taco" in 1968. What we think of as the "original" flavor, nacho cheese, debuted in 1974.

So maybe rickl is right.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (lYlRK)

294 You know ... Monk has some good links.

Worth a look.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (fiGNd)

295 89 Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small?

Because they're awful?
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at February 24, 2018 06:11 PM (Tyii7)

Now I get it. The boxes are too small for grapes or nuts

Posted by: Northernlurker Worldwide Moron Tour at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (5fRCd)

296 @ rhomboid

1911's and ARs...magazine problems cause most of my problems with both platforms.

I guess that's another reason I go with Glocks and XD mags.

Glad you got yours fixed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (xJa6I)

297 And here's a question... Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small? I checked and that little box is supposed to contain TEN servings.

Posted by: Weasel


When you add the milk, the nuts get bigger.....

it's like porn for them.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (B4vfZ)

298 Well, ok, the Asian model. I'll take 3. Program one as chef/housekeeper, one as a bodyguard, and the one pictured for........the other stuff.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (zLDYs)

299 Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review

I have to stack the deck against any country I run to have fun.

For ex: Getting Italian paratroopers into Tasmania or New Zealand, or dominating the entire world gets boring. Even being the last one standing. The AI is not sharp.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (hyuyC)

300 And I've switched to a stouter charge (pretty much standard M2 ball ammo pressures/velocities) after switching to standard 16-lb spring in the 1911 from what I think was a 14-lb spring that came with the gun.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:13 PM (ETFzT)

301 284
There has never been unflavored Doritos. You're obviously hallucinating.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:09 PM (lYlRK)


I guess that means I have to turn in my guns, then.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:13 PM (sdi6R)

302 There is nothing I eat that claims what 1 serving is enough for me

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 06:13 PM (aC6Sd)

303 289 Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small?

Because they're awful?
Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at February 24, 2018 06:11 PM (Tyii7)
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I like them, but then there aren't many breakfast cereals I don't like. Grape Nuts are good with honey.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:13 PM (Sfs6o)

304 David Hogg edited video during the shooting. He repeats it's not a drill. We thought it was a drill. This while hearing gunshots. The nepotism always brings down totalitarian regimes because sloppy and incompetence.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZVioBDjFeM

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 06:14 PM (g4lFK)

305 301 284
There has never been unflavored Doritos. You're obviously hallucinating.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:09 PM (lYlRK)

I guess that means I have to turn in my guns, then.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:13 PM (sdi6R)

*takes notes*
Agitated. Memory gaps. Delusions of unflavored Doritos.

Sorry sir, I'm declaring you mentally unstable and taking your guns away.

Posted by: Florida cop at February 24, 2018 06:15 PM (D9v9b)

306 Cheddar horseradish potato chips are good

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:15 PM (1F6Sr)

307 There is nothing I eat that claims what 1 serving is enough for me

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 06:13 PM (aC6Sd)


Yep. Nothing even close.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 06:15 PM (8gDQu)

308 @247 Finally, I organize, organize, position, and except for maybe 1 year game time of fun play time, it's all too easy against the AI. Like I'll hold Germany out of WWII until 1945, let the Allies build up a massive force, then outmaneuver them all.
-----------------

Reminds me of a game design post over at GMT Games (makers of a large number of strategy board games). The guy writing had been playtesting a new World War I game that the company was planning on releasing, and got hit with the problem - "What if Germany decides not to invade right away?"

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:16 PM (VAt5v)

309 Yeah Mark I think it was the charge level in the reloads. When I did my very first reloads, it was 9mm for the XD. It was funny - I started very low, per the safety mantra, and as expected the first couple load levels would barely move the slide back.


XD mags have never misfed for me apart from those reload tests where the ammo was under-powered. And with 9mm I don't experiment much, just mimic factory ammo.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:16 PM (ETFzT)

310 Cheddar horseradish potato chips are good

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:15 PM (1F6Sr)


Well, pretty much anything with cheddar and horseradish is good.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 06:17 PM (8gDQu)

311 Reminds me of a game design post over at GMT Games (makers of a large number of strategy board games). The guy writing had been playtesting a new World War I game that the company was planning on releasing, and got hit with the problem - "What if Germany decides not to invade right away?"
Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:16 PM (VAt5v)


Sitzkrieg.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:17 PM (fiGNd)

312 Just as a reminder, we have a WoW Horde guild on Hellscream and an Alliance guild on Rexxar if any of you people are into World of Warcraft. Polliwogette is the guild leader, the guild on Hellscream is ValU Rite Pudding. Rexxar is slightly different - Val U Rite Pudding (spaced different).

We have tons of alts of just about every level and we're up for levelling or chatting on Battlenet. My main on Hellscream is Carson and on Rexxar it is Dreadnought.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 24, 2018 06:18 PM (c1VpD)

313 Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small?"

Denser. They're keeping the weight similar, even if that means different sizes.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 06:18 PM (7LY+6)

314 There is nothing I eat that claims what 1 serving is enough for me


My favorite is "Serves a family of 4". What, four hamsters?

Posted by: Zombie Wilford Brimley at February 24, 2018 06:19 PM (Tyii7)

315 @122
You ever tried Stellaris ? I've been looking at it. Would love to hear a review.
----------------

I just bought it, myself. Two of my brothers play it, and it's currently sixty percent off on Steam (until Monday morning).

It's downloading right now.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:19 PM (VAt5v)

316 313. Biodegradable aquarium gravel.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:19 PM (fA1SL)

317 Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 24, 2018 06:18 PM (c1VpD)

I would absolutely love Multi-Playing with the Horde.

But I don't play WoW. HOI IV. Civ VI. Destiny (hangs head in shame).

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:19 PM (fiGNd)

318 I'm really flailing with problem #2 as well. If you're going to advise 2. ... Bd5 as your second move, you also need to deal with an alternative if white instead moves 2. c6

Posted by: civil truth at February 24, 2018 06:20 PM (t3LBb)

319 Why the hell are Grape Nuts cereal boxes so small?"

Hilary handles the nuts before packaging.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:20 PM (B4vfZ)

320 grape nuts have to be sprinkled on some other cereal. I don't think they can be the main event.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:20 PM (1F6Sr)

321 solutions up.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:21 PM (lYlRK)

322 junior

Exactly. You can't play out sending the developed German Army east against Russia like the Kaiser suggested.

The mobilization & train schedules in the strategic plans were too rigid in real life. The German General Staff flubbed it at the start in WWI, by not letting the French bleed out during their Plan 17, and crush the Russians early.

Makes one wonder about the touted brilliance of the German military, who were strategically sub-morons.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:21 PM (hyuyC)

323 Sure there were plain Doritos. For a while, that's all there was. Those of a certain age remember before everything came in 23 flavors.


For tortilla chips there are always excellent local-made varieties in regular stores or Mexican grocery stores. Haven't had Doritos or similar for a long time.


But put a bag of ranch flavored or probably anything else (other than guacamole) in front of me and get our your stopwatch to see how long they last .....


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:21 PM (ETFzT)

324 Queso Dip.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:23 PM (Sfs6o)

325 312 Just as a reminder, we have a WoW Horde guild on Hellscream and an Alliance guild on Rexxar if any of you people are into World of Warcraft. Polliwogette is the guild leader, the guild on Hellscream is ValU Rite Pudding. Rexxar is slightly different - Val U Rite Pudding (spaced different).

We have tons of alts of just about every level and we're up for levelling or chatting on Battlenet. My main on Hellscream is Carson and on Rexxar it is Dreadnought.
Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 24, 2018 06:18 PM (c1VpD)

Temping, very tempting....I haven't played WOW in a while. It would be fun playing with real morons instead of the fake version.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:23 PM (xJa6I)

326 I'm really flailing with problem #2 as well"

Bring up heavy armor, cover with a mix of rotary and fixed wing aircraft. Use naval power to cut off retreat by sea...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 06:23 PM (7LY+6)

327 just realized only a couple ettes on the dress thread.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:23 PM (1F6Sr)

328 OM, thank you for another fun thread. I'm glad you are healing, albeit at a slow pace.

And your Korean model is a shining example that dresses here are really for the guys.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:24 PM (hyuyC)

329 Queso Dip.

Posted by: Weasel


Does John have a long mustache ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:24 PM (B4vfZ)

330 Posted by: civil truth at February 24, 2018 06:20 PM (t3LBb)

I had the labels all messed up in that transcription. I put the correct labels in comment #291.

My second bishop move was really to e4 to force white's b rook to move.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at February 24, 2018 06:25 PM (8gDQu)

331 Dinner tonight is lasagne, salad and sourdough. I plan to stuff myself.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:25 PM (Sfs6o)

332 dresses here are really for the guys

How right you are!

Posted by: Johnny Weird at February 24, 2018 06:25 PM (Tyii7)

333 Tiny little bubbles....

In the wine......
Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:07 PM

Makes me happy....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 24, 2018 06:26 PM (0dBoU)

334 @182 Someone should make a "Papers Please" style game about being an FBI agent getting tips on mass shootings.
---------------------

Speaking of "Papers Please"...

When I was on Steam just a bit ago, I noticed that the item at the top of the New Releases list is a free ten minute movie based on that game.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:26 PM (VAt5v)

335 329 Queso Dip.

Posted by: Weasel


Does John have a long mustache ?
Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:24 PM (B4vfZ)
-------
I figured that was all that was really needed. Damn it's addictive.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:26 PM (Sfs6o)

336 How right you are!


Posted by: Johnny Weird


You goin' out tonite, Big Fella ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:26 PM (B4vfZ)

337 Weird Dave was the moderator of two Horde Diplomacy games. That was soo much fun.

I still have all the emails and maps.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:28 PM (hyuyC)

338 Is this like the weirdest thread or what? Are those chicks chess cheerleaders?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:28 PM (70cRb)

339 Temping, very tempting....I haven't played WOW in a while. It would be fun playing with real morons instead of the fake version.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:23 PM (xJa6I)


It's a blast. I played a bit with IC and Polliwogette back in September or October.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 06:28 PM (y87Qq)

340 Dinner tonight is lasagne, salad and sourdough. I plan to stuff myself.

Posted by: Weasel at February



Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:28 PM (B4vfZ)

341 Its a shame there are no artillery pieces in chess, say a piece can jump 4 spaces over any other and attack that square.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (aC6Sd)

342 On the strategy video games note...

Have any of you guys played Command: Modern Air/Naval Ops? I picked it up a while back, but haven't jumped into it quite yet. I'm wondering if any of you have. Supposedly, it's somewhat akin to Harpoon.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (VAt5v)

343 Weird Dave was the moderator of two Horde Diplomacy games. That was soo much fun.

I still have all the emails and maps.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:28 PM (hyuyC)


I would absolutely play that ...

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (fiGNd)

344 308
Reminds me of a game design post over at GMT Games (makers of a large number of strategy board games). The guy writing had been playtesting a new World War I game that the company was planning on releasing, and got hit with the problem - "What if Germany decides not to invade right away?"
Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:16 PM (VAt5v)


So, like peacetime?

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (sdi6R)

345 341. They're called knights.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (fA1SL)

346 You goin' out tonite, Big Fella ?

Sadly, not tonight. I just can't seem to do a thing with that buffalo chip on my head!

Posted by: Johnny Weird at February 24, 2018 06:30 PM (Tyii7)

347 rickl, you are vindicated!

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 06:30 PM (1F6Sr)

348 Is this like the weirdest thread or what? Are those chicks chess cheerleaders?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob

Are those chicks chess cheerleaders?



Is that a twongue tister ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:30 PM (B4vfZ)

349 grape nuts have to be sprinkled on some other cereal ice covered roads to improve traction.. I don't think they can be the main event chewed with human teeth.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 06:31 PM (EyPfd)

350 NaClyDog recently read book (Death of the Wehrmact - Citino), simplified, observed that German general staff mindset (since Frederick) was mostly maneuver (Bewegungschlact) aimed at envelopment (Kesselschlact), with generally little thought to logistics or larger strategy.


Much of WWII certainly followed that pattern. And "thinking about logistics" does not = "Russia will be defeated in a few months so logistics won't matter". Good thing WWII Germany didn't marry their own mastery of maneuver warfare and exceptional soldiers with American globe-girdling logistics genius.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:31 PM (ETFzT)

351 Mrs. E said today was 'leftover' day. So tomorrow I eat what is leftover of the leftovers leftover from today. So to speak.

Posted by: Eromero at February 24, 2018 06:31 PM (zLDYs)

352 For ex: Getting Italian paratroopers into Tasmania or New Zealand, or dominating the entire world gets boring. Even being the last one standing. The AI is not sharp.
Posted by: NaCly
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As an aside, early in the war, Britain was short on troops and Churchill was busy trying to get the Dominion's troops to where they would be most effective.

The Union of South Africa's troops were not so well trained as others, but were available (kind of). Churchill's comment was, "Well, at any rate, they ought to be able to handle the Italians".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 06:32 PM (7ThJ3)

353 340 Dinner tonight is lasagne, salad and sourdough. I plan to stuff myself.

Posted by: Weasel at February

I'm jealous man but sourdough? A nice eyetalian rustica. Crusty and hot. Butter. Dipped in sauce. ....mmmmmmm.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:32 PM (70cRb)

354 Another example of how the Courts can protects us.

http://tinyurl.com/y8hjjqux

or not

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 06:32 PM (EyPfd)

355 345 341. They're called knights.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (fA1SL)

Deus Vult!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:32 PM (xJa6I)

356 329
Queso Dip.



Posted by: Weasel

Is the chair against the wall?

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 06:33 PM (gEvQ8)

357 Amateurs debate strategery. Professionals handle logistics...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 06:33 PM (7LY+6)

358 And Peter O'Toole is SO good in 'My Favorite Year'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:34 PM (xJa6I)

359 That ball gown is so beautiful, wouldn't it be nice if girls dressed like that again?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 06:34 PM (39g3+)

360 Chick UFC and vodka...yeah baby!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:34 PM (70cRb)

361 318 I'm really flailing with problem #2 as well. If you're going to advise 2. ... Bd5 as your second move, you also need to deal with an alternative if white instead moves 2. c6
Posted by: civil truth at February 24, 2018 06:20 PM (t3LBb)


?? White doesn't have a c pawn. Remember, we're looking from Black's side of the board.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:34 PM (sdi6R)

362 So tomorrow I eat what is leftover of the leftovers leftover from today. So to speak.


Posted by: Eromero


Whew.

Well, if we never hear from ya again, we'll know what happened.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 06:34 PM (B4vfZ)

363 There is nothing I eat that claims what 1 serving is enough for me

Posted by: Skip
*****************

That's what being a Hungrarian is all about.
And pass that roast this way while you're at it.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 06:35 PM (AC18V)

364 I'm jealous man but sourdough? A nice eyetalian rustica. Crusty and hot. Butter. Dipped in sauce. ....mmmmmmm.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:32 PM (70cRb)
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Pretty sure that's what I saw coming in! I could be wrong though.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:35 PM (Sfs6o)

365 rhomboid

Yes. This has been a truism for many years. The Allies relied on that error pattern and Hitler's many mistakes to win.

I did like Citino's book on Operational Warfare, Blitzkrieg, a lot. He is a good writer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:35 PM (hyuyC)

366 341 Its a shame there are no artillery pieces in chess, say a piece can jump 4 spaces over any other and attack that square.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 06:29 PM (aC6Sd)


What they've found when they've invented chess variants with even more powerful pieces (of the sort you suggest) is that those are the pieces that get used, while the minor pieces (knights and bishops) are mostly ignored.

Chess is a finely balanced game, and the addition of new pieces always seems to disrupt it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:35 PM (lYlRK)

367 Knights kind of jump over other pieces, they don't need a direct line to move.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 06:36 PM (39g3+)

368 @350 Much of WWII certainly followed that pattern. And "thinking about logistics" does not = "Russia will be defeated in a few months so logistics won't matter". Good thing WWII Germany didn't marry their own mastery of maneuver warfare and exceptional soldiers with American globe-girdling logistics genius.
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I doubt it would have mattered. Even if they'd been that far-sighted, they didn't have the transport capacity. This is an army that was still using horse-drawn wagons throughout the war because there weren't enough trucks.

American logistical amazingness worked because the Americans were able to see far enough ahead to plan the system out, and also because there were enough transport vehicles to move it all. When a US infantry unit needed to move to a different place on the line, the men got into their trucks and rode to their destination. When a German infantry unit needed to do the same thing, they started marching (only the Panzergrenadier units had trucks for the infantry).

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:37 PM (VAt5v)

369 Thanks Gents ... Death of the Wehrmacht. Hadn't read this one.

Will now.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:37 PM (fiGNd)

370 I doubt it would have mattered. Even if they'd been that far-sighted, they didn't have the transport capacity. This is an army that was still using horse-drawn wagons throughout the war because there weren't enough trucks.

And they were always extremely limited on fuel (largely because of English and American strategy to deny them fuel). Germany absolutely had to conquer huge territory fast and hold it long enough to build up for another push. Being tricked into attacking the USSR ruined them, because they weren't ready. It was inevitable, they just needed time to build up stores and fuel for another major campaign.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 06:39 PM (39g3+)

371 348 Is this like the weirdest thread or what?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob


You're lucky I didn't turn it into a curling thread, what with Team USA winning gold in men's curling yesterday and all.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:39 PM (lYlRK)

372 O'Toole got an Oscar nod for MFY, one of eight. He never won.

First up was for Lawrence. He lost to Gregory Peck in Mockingbird, a movie that couldn't get made today.

Posted by: Ignoramus at February 24, 2018 06:39 PM (pV/54)

373 Mike H. there were some South African pilots of note, I think.


And Rommel regarded the New Zealanders he faced in North Africa the elite among his foes, I believe.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:39 PM (ETFzT)

374 That ball gown is so beautiful, wouldn't it be nice if girls dressed like that again?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Rockwell did several illustrations (probably for Ladies Home Journal) depicting women trying on dresses from the past. Here are a couple:

I think this one is titled 'Treasure': http://tinyurl.com/ybeegk57

and another:
http://tinyurl.com/y7xkadbq

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 06:40 PM (Zdm89)

375 That ball gown is so beautiful, wouldn't it be nice if girls dressed like that again?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 24, 2018 06:34 PM

It would. It would also be good if men learned how to dress well again. I draw the line at hats, though. I am not a hat person.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 24, 2018 06:40 PM (0dBoU)

376 Movies

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 06:41 PM (12Ea6)

377 WE'VE GOT MOVIE SIGN!!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:41 PM (lYlRK)

378 Mike Hammer

Yes. Compare and contrast the 9th Australian Division surrounded in Tobruk with the 2nd South African Division, which surrendered at Tobruk.

The New Zealand 2nd Infantry Division was the best division in the 8th Army.

Stalin was disgusted with the Allies being unable to handle a small corps of Germans and Italians when that was all the Allies were fighting. But the casualty lists favored the Commonwealth way of war in the end.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:41 PM (hyuyC)

379 350 NaClyDog recently read book (Death of the Wehrmact - Citino), simplified, observed that German general staff mindset (since Frederick) was mostly maneuver (Bewegungschlact) aimed at envelopment (Kesselschlact), with generally little thought to logistics or larger strategy.


Much of WWII certainly followed that pattern. And "thinking about logistics" does not = "Russia will be defeated in a few months so logistics won't matter". Good thing WWII Germany didn't marry their own mastery of maneuver warfare and exceptional soldiers with American globe-girdling logistics genius.
Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:31 PM (ETFzT)

...not...quite?

There problem is politics, especially in the General Staff planning. The generals, mostly, understood logistics but the insertion of decisions by Hitler, Goring, etc complicated planning and transport. Manstein and Guderian were damn fine planners and strategists that did not neglect logistics but also didn't have authority to allocate resources.

There's also the weapon procurement problem where the real improved weapons systems had to jump through hoops like crazy to get into soldier's hands.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:41 PM (xJa6I)

380 @373
And Rommel regarded the New Zealanders he faced in North Africa the elite among his foes, I believe.
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A lot of that was probably the Maoris. From what I've heard, if the Germans learned that there was a Haka Dance starting up, then they got worried.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:42 PM (VAt5v)

381 Oooh movies!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 06:42 PM (xJa6I)

382 In the original version of chess, the precursors of the bishops were called elephants, and they moved two squares diagonally in any direction. They could jump over pieces of either color.

But they were very restricted. Each elephant could only occupy eight squares on the board, and no elephant could capture another elephant.

I have a hard time picturing strategy in early chess, but it must have been a fascinating game and I'd like to see it make a comeback. After all, it was played for nearly 1000 years before the modern rules.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:43 PM (sdi6R)

383 364 I'm jealous man but sourdough? A nice eyetalian rustica. Crusty and hot. Butter. Dipped in sauce. ....mmmmmmm.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:32 PM (70cRb)
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Pretty sure that's what I saw coming in! I could be wrong though.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:35 PM (Sfs6o)

hey, I'm jealous. Give me a 30 day lead next item and I'll bring te bread, wine and cannolis.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:43 PM (70cRb)

384 @370 And they were always extremely limited on fuel (largely because of English and American strategy to deny them fuel).
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The Romanian oil fields at Ploesti were probably the single biggest source for the German military. It's estimated that Romania's surrender (and switch to the Allies) cut a year off the length of the war. And the loss of the oil was probably a big part of that.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:44 PM (VAt5v)

385 I doubt it would have mattered. Even if they'd been that far-sighted,
they didn't have the transport capacity. This is an army that was still
using horse-drawn wagons throughout the war because there weren't
enough trucks.

I've pointed this out numerous times to other people. While the Western allies and Russians (using Studebaker trucks) were moving men and material in trucks, in many cases the Germans were using horse drawn vehicles. They had an extensive rail system, but the SS were too busy moving Jews to death camps to use it to move supplies.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 06:44 PM (gEvQ8)

386 The generals, mostly, understood logistics but the insertion of decisions by Hitler, Goring, etc complicated planning and transport.

If the Wehrmacht presses the advantage and captures 200,000 British Troops at Dunkirk ... I don't think Churchill gets nearly as many pages in the history books.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:45 PM (fiGNd)

387 President Trump's plan to hold a military parade in "The Swamp" moves forward as H R McMaster gives SecDef Mattis his orders. The date will be the 100th anniversary of Armistice Day, November 11, 2018, marking the end of World War I.

https://tinyurl.com/y6vzcwh3

Would you please stand and remove your hats for the singing of our National Anthem? Thank you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYcheeUS5A


Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at February 24, 2018 06:45 PM (EMi53)

388 @379 There's also the weapon procurement problem where the real improved weapons systems had to jump through hoops like crazy to get into soldier's hands.
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I've heard that Hitler didn't like assault rifles (probably due to the reduced range in comparison with a bolt action). So he banned them. The German military got around this prohibition by reclassifying them as "machine pistols".

Problems then emerged when Hitler apparently found out that units at the front were requesting more of the new "pistols".

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:47 PM (VAt5v)

389 VIA, that story is so sickening. Didn't realize it was an off-duty cop. Echoes of course of the TX church shooting - and of many other violent incidents where the stacks of gun laws remain unenforced (the few that actually have some sense to them).


There was a hubbub in CA not long ago when whichever loathsome idiot was attorney general (don't think it was dim Harris, maybe her predecessor) announced a campaign to enforce court orders and mental health judgements for removing firearms from those named.


I of course shared the loathing for the attorney general and the state in general on guns (and now, mostly everything), but could not get that worked up about the specifics. There were lots of real nutjobs, some with serial violent incident histories, involved (like the killer in MD).


Judging unfitness remains a *very* dangerous minefield for any civil right including the 2A, but sometimes it's not such a hard call, and I see little to get upset about when truly violent wackos (as evidenced by their resumes) are targeted.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 06:47 PM (ETFzT)

390

Wounds my taste buds with a monotonous flavour.

Posted by: BBC radio at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (IqV8l)

391 hey, I'm jealous. Give me a 30 day lead next item and I'll bring te bread, wine and cannolis.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:43 PM (70cRb)
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That's a deal!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (Sfs6o)

392 366
Chess is a finely balanced game, and the addition of new pieces always seems to disrupt it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:35 PM (lYlRK)


Just thinking about Tamerlane Chess makes my brain hurt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlane_chess


But that was an idea to juice up the game before the modern rules came into play.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)

393 371 348 Is this like the weirdest thread or what?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob

You're lucky I didn't turn it into a curling thread, what with Team USA winning gold in men's curling yesterday and all.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 06:39 PM (lYlRK)

Oh please OM. Heidi was a curler and today I watched the match rerun and she keeps yelliing it "Miracurl on Ice!"

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (70cRb)

394 junior

The NZ 2nd Division only had a battalion of Maoris. They were feared, like the Gurkhas.

But the level of battalion and company leadership was very high in the division. One example. Captain Charles Upham, company commander; VC and Bar, the only combatant officer to be so rewarded.

The NZ GOC screwed up at Crete in a big way, but even so it was a near run thing due to troop quality.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 06:49 PM (hyuyC)

395 -----
That's a deal!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (Sfs6o)

Lol. Ok, and i make a mean meatball.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:52 PM (70cRb)

396 @389
There was a hubbub in CA not long ago when whichever loathsome idiot was attorney general (don't think it was dim Harris, maybe her predecessor) announced a campaign to enforce court orders and mental health judgements for removing firearms from those named.
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Moonbeam was the AG right before Harris.

The guy before Moonbeam was Lockyer. He apparently wanted to put ID numbers on each handgun bullet sold in the state in an attempt to trace ammunition used in a crime.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 06:52 PM (VAt5v)

397 You have to admit that Hitler was his own worst enemy and the Allies greatest secret weapon. It's scary to think of what would have been had someone even remotely competent were in charge.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 06:53 PM (gEvQ8)

398 Oh please OM. Heidi was a curler and today I watched the match rerun and she keeps yelliing it "Miracurl on Ice!"
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (70cRb)


She tends to get loud, when stressed.

But she doesn't listen to solid advice. Like "Slap Hot Iron On It".

Nobody is perfect.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:54 PM (fiGNd)

399 If the Wehrmacht presses the advantage and captures 200,000 British Troops at Dunkirk ... I don't think Churchill gets nearly as many pages in the history books.
Posted by: ScoggDog
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Maybe. But bear in mind that the defeat, retreat and evacuation of the BEF was underway, essentially, before Churchill even took office.

Moreover, ALL equipment was lost at Dunkirk, so the further loss would have been the troops, who were not irreplaceable, nor had they particularly acquitted themselves.

For a sense of it, the volunteer Home Guard had raised 1.5 million men by June/July.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 06:56 PM (QxXRY)

400 She tends to get loud, when stressed.
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Grandfather! Grandfather!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (QxXRY)

401 397 You have to admit that Hitler was his own worst enemy and the Allies greatest secret weapon. It's scary to think of what would have been had someone even remotely competent were in charge.
Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 06:53 PM (gEvQ


Insisting that the Me-262 should be developed as a bomber instead of a fighter was right up there among the greatest blunders in military history. It would have made every other fighter in the world obsolete.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (sdi6R)

402 Great! Now I know what Justin is going to be wearing on any future state visits to Korea.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (ewxPW)

403 Gotta read up on Crete. Read a book on the kidnapping of the German general by local resistance working with SOE Brits, it covered the battle briefly. Sounded like a debacle for the krauts, really should have been defeated (at least their first, airbone-centric attempt).

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (ETFzT)

404 Just thinking about Tamerlane Chess makes my brain hurt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlane_chess

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:48 PM (sdi6R)


( *gapes in disbelief* )

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (lYlRK)

405 Maybe. But bear in mind that the defeat, retreat and evacuation of the BEF was underway, essentially, before Churchill even took office.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 06:56 PM (QxXRY)


Maybe. That's a good counter-point. The 1.5 Million number is as well.

I love studying WW II. The tactics, politics, grand strategy ... all of it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (fiGNd)

406 Insisting
that the Me-262 should be developed as a bomber instead of a fighter
was right up there among the greatest blunders in military history. It
would have made every other fighter in the world obsolete.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (sdi6R)

And could have been deployable in 1943, IIRC

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (gEvQ8)

407 She tends to get loud, when stressed.

But she doesn't listen to solid advice. Like "Slap Hot Iron On It".

Nobody is perfect.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 06:54 PM (fiGNd)

LMAO!!! She went with maxi pad and duct tape, becuse I kept running n away form the hot iron.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 07:04 PM (70cRb)

408 And could have been deployable in 1943, IIRC
Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 07:01 PM (gEvQ


I've read ... in multiple places ... that Adolf had this notion that EVERY AIRFRAME had to be "Dive Bomb Capable".

If true ... or even if not ... its an illustration of the old dichotomy of power structures. Centralized ... with those Fuck Ups ? Or Distributed ... with those Fuck Ups ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:04 PM (fiGNd)

409 404
( *gapes in disbelief* )
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Global Rethinker at February 24, 2018 07:00 PM (lYlRK)


I like how the camel was a super-knight.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 07:06 PM (sdi6R)

410 Mike Hammer

Losing all the NCO, support staff and JOs would have crippled the UK Army. Especially losing the senior NCO, who take years to polish into the reinforcing rods of an entire battalion.

The Home Guard was a desperate defensive force with personal not suited for combat in any line of battle.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:06 PM (hyuyC)

411 NOOD

movie night

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 07:07 PM (EzdLW)

412 Another thread ... just when it's getting good ... gone.

Like. Tears. In. The. Rain.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:09 PM (fiGNd)

413 She tends to get loud, when stressed.
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Grandfather! Grandfather!
Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 06:58 PM (QxXRY)

Excuse me....the Real Heidi here. Be careful what you say, Bob is still recovering from shoulder surgery and the maxi pad incident and I'd hate for something else to happen to him.

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 07:10 PM (70cRb)

414 ScoggDog

We can keep it going. Got a WWII question? I'm nowhere as good as Anna Puma on aircraft type, but then who is?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:11 PM (hyuyC)

415
Losing all the NCO, support staff and JOs would have crippled the UK Army. Especially losing the senior NCO, who take years to polish into the reinforcing rods of an entire battalion.

The Home Guard was a desperate defensive force with personal not suited for combat in any line of battle.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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The question has been debated for 75 years. It necessarily involves speculation and assumptions. Here is some thoughtful discussion:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yaegnwl3

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 07:12 PM (9tO1t)

416 I've read ... in multiple places ... that Adolf had this notion that EVERY AIRFRAME had to be "Dive Bomb Capable".

I believe that that was reason it wasn't deployed earlier. Hitler, instead of just a straight air superiority role, wanted it to have a close ground support capability. They had the same problem with tanks. They were awesome tanks, but very complex to maintain. The Soviets with their T-34, which were relatively simple to operate and maintain and could crank out 2,000 a month, and the Allies with the Sherman that we were produced in huge numbers and were not as complex as some of PanzerwerkKampfWagens, eventually overwhelmed the German forces. They could produce one Tiger, and the Allies could counter that with 100 tanks.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 07:13 PM (gEvQ8)

417 415 Mike Hammer

Thanks!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:15 PM (hyuyC)

418 I'm nowhere as good as Anna Puma on aircraft type, but then who is?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:11 PM (hyuyC)


I find myself more delving into TO&E ... and how all that evolved.

And the tactics of how to organize Air Wings as well as Task Forces. Mitscher seemed to prefer "Four Carriers, Eight Cruisers, and Twenty-Four Destroyers". I always wonder how they came to those limits.

And - as a guy that plays games - it seems, at a basic level, as countries figuring out C&C enough to control bigger and bigger concentrations of firepower.

How the USAAF organized their shit just baffles me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:17 PM (fiGNd)

419 Four Carriers came about because of the air marshalling frequency limits, limits on flashing light, signal flags, and Talk Between Ship circuits, sea room for the Task force, and the limits on radar plots of the time.

The screen ships were augmented by BBs and it was a tradeoff of ASW capacity and AA support. What evolved was a AA heavy unit, like a CLAA or BB giving direct support to an individual CV. The rest of the AA heavy screen were on the threat axis to stop the CAP leakers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:22 PM (hyuyC)

420 418 ScroggDog
How the USAAF organized their shit just baffles me.

Me too. Although they went with aircraft leading others in a box unit, so there was some commonality of units in action.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:24 PM (hyuyC)

421 Hmm ... interesting.

So if I get to make MY DREAM COMPUTER GAME OF WWII THAT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A HOI IV MOD ...

... just putting a tech tree out that there that lets you increase the number of CVs from 1 to 2 to maybe 4 or more would simulate it ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:26 PM (fiGNd)

422 The American Decision to go from Square Divisions to the Triangle seems important.

But I don't get WHY they did it - other than copying the most successful armies of the time.

The notion of "Two Up, One Back" makes sense - but I've found instances where that wasn't how they did it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:29 PM (fiGNd)

423 ScoggDog

It took a while to get to four CVs. Lots of learning after each battle. Up to 1942 we had one CV per Task Force. Like at Coral Sea. Midway we got to two in one TF.

For example, we learned a lot about CAPs from the Royal Navy operating CVs in the Med. The FAA was more advances in some ways, but then the USN took the lead around 1943, with the arrival of the Essex class CVs.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:31 PM (hyuyC)

424 ScoggDog

More operational flexibility, and because the real killer was the artillery. That is where the US Army excelled.

Got to go.

Good chatting with you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (hyuyC)

425 A long time ago I read about how the AAF designed their combat boxes to maximize defensive fire, but I can't recall the the exact details.

Posted by: Old Blue at February 24, 2018 07:33 PM (gEvQ8)

426 It took a while to get to four CVs. Lots of learning after each battle. Up to 1942 we had one CV per Task Force. Like at Coral Sea. Midway we got to two in one TF.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:31 PM (hyuyC)


Makes sense.

I understand the concept of needing to gain experience and skill to concentrate force ... just because of C&C limitations.

Interesting.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:35 PM (fiGNd)

427 Later Salty. Enjoyed it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:36 PM (fiGNd)

428 We can keep it going. Got a WWII question? I'm nowhere as good as Anna Puma on aircraft type, but then who is?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 07:11 PM (hyuyC)

As it appears to be Hungarian Day:

What aircraft types were made in Budapest in WWII?

Who was Hungary's most distinguished combat pilot of that war, and what joke did the Hungarians play on the Soviets involving him?

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, from the Military Museum on Castle Hill at February 24, 2018 07:39 PM (zCyNd)

429 I understand the concept of needing to gain experience and skill to concentrate force ... just because of C&C limitations.

Interesting.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 07:35 PM (fiGNd)

It was all about the Combat Information Center, a concept very much used ever since.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, from the the pizza place at February 24, 2018 07:53 PM (zCyNd)

430 For Problem1... Bc6

2.Bc3! Bxh1

Why not
2. Bc3! Bxb2 Now up a Knight and Rook is still hanging. After White moves/protects the Rook, Black can then play F6 to protect the Knight on E4.

F.Y.I. A couple of weeks ago, you missed a knight fork on your proposed solution on the 2nd problem

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at February 24, 2018 08:23 PM (1bnL3)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread

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Good afternoon, welcome to the almost world famous AoSHQ Pet Thread. Hope you like today's above the fold photo. Sometimes a honest photo hits the spot.

Sit back and enjoy the world of animals.

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A Little of This. A Little of That.


Thinking about a puppy? Looking for that next dog?
Comical dog breed guide should help you out on your next endeavor.


Updated news on the tainted dog food with euthanasia drugs.


Sometimes the best intentions result in the worst outcome.


Looking out for feral cats.

Domains for cats.


A cute wedding.

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Meet the PetMorons

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Hi Mis H!

I’m a lurker, but a regular reader, and particularly enjoy the pet, food, and gardening threads. This is Yasha and Bear, two standard American Eskimo dogs, brother and sister. They’re twelve now. Eskies were bred from German Spitz dogs (Pomeranians were also German Spitz, but bred down in size) and one breeder, around the 1900s, bred white ones for the circus. White dogs, white ponies, the origin of “dog and pony show”. After WWI, it was unpopular to be “German” anything, so the white line was named after that breeder’s kennel, and they became American Eskimos (and never set foot in Alaska!) They’re bright, love to do tricks, and shed hair like crazy.

Thank you for an enjoyable thread!

Joanie

Great looking dogs Joanie. And thanks for the history lesson. Know we know where that old saying came from.


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I'm a long time lurker and never poster. I just want to drop you a photo of one of our cats. She is 15 now and starting to suffer from health problems that may be terminal. It was sudden and I had promised myself sometime back that I would send a photo in while she was still with us. Here she is doing what she does best, sleeping on my lap. Love the pet thread. Love the website, my all time favorite hands down.

Thanks,
Nick

Nick, thanks for coming out of the lurker shadows and sharing your cat's photo with us. Hopefully her condition is improving.


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Daily Lurker Kathy here. This is our Beautiful Missy (bichon) and our puppy Frankie (yorkie-poodle). Our Missy was getting older, and with the Boy going off to college in the fall, thought we'd get her a companion. So Frankie came along by chance. Well Missy, at 12, was not very amused at his puppiness, but when we came home at the end of the day, she would be curled up next to his crate. We jokingly called Frankie the Insurance Dog, since Missy was getting on in years. Well, this picture was at Easter, and by September, Our Beautiful Missy was gone, thyroid cancer. Frankie is now 8, and we love him dearly, but he's like a dopey little boy compared to our Princess. While Missy loved my husband best, Frankie adores me most, which was very helpful to me in dealing with the empty nest. A home must be very lonely without a Dog to come home to.

Kathy, a lovely photo of the puppehs. Sorry you have lost Missy but happy to know you have her companion Frankie to keep company. A home without a dog is pretty damn quiet.


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My Archie, also known as The Dude in the Cheap Orange Coat, is a big believer in catch and release. He catches outside and releases, completely unharmed, inside. Mostly chipmunks. But once a bat. And this time of year he’s quite fond of finding water roaches. He likes the way they perk up and start running when he brings them in and they warm up a little. DeAnn

Quite the interesting cat you have there. A chipmunk in the house must be a challenge. Thanks for sending in Archie's photo.


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Been a lurker since ’06, always the highlights of my day. This is Daenerys (Targaryen) my new Golden Retriever at 8 weeks exploring her forever house.
The little girl is filling the pawprints left by my previous golden Marilyn (Monroe) who left us at age 3 from spindle-cell cancer. Little Dany follows daddy everywhere and is well on her way to being my second love. The love of a golden,I truly believe, is unmatched. All the best to the other pet morons out there. - Joe

Sorry to hear that you had to get this cute puppy by losing a young dog Joe. Loosing a pet sucks, especially a young one. Dany looks like she will give you a run for your money. Thank you for submitting her photo.


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Our cat Koushka likes to claim new things around the house. So when my husband
re-flashed a bunch of demo Kindles into working Kindles for Christmas
presents, and set them in a stack to charge...Koushka decided they were the
new Pride Rock. Ever since then one of his nicknames has been Lord of the
Kindles. After all, no Christmas present is complete without cat hair.

- Safewrite

Hair on things? Wouldn't know anything about that. Thanks for the submission looks like Koushka has a difficult life there.


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I recently made a video to guilt a friend of mine into allowing my magnificent, spoiled Basset "Barley Hound" into his house.

It worked-Jason


What kind of friend would need this video to allow that cutie into his house? You and Barley Hound are invited to stop by anytime you want. Thanks for sharing this video.

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Another week, another wonderful group of pets. Thank you so much for sharing them with us here at The Pet Thread.

Do you have a photo or a YouTube video of your pet you would like to share? You can reach us at petmorons at gmail dot com.

Have a great week!!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 03:00 PM




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1 Meow!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:54 PM (qJtVm)

2 ruff

Posted by: m at February 24, 2018 03:00 PM (VKsXm)

3 Hssssss!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 03:00 PM (qJtVm)

4 >>>Hope you like today's above the fold photo.

I LOVE today's above the fold photo.

Posted by: m at February 24, 2018 03:01 PM (VKsXm)

5 moo

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 03:01 PM (n13/j)

6 Pet Thread! What a great group this week!

WeaselDog is curled up beside me and says hi.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 03:03 PM (Sfs6o)

7 *arf*

*hic* *shart* *woof*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 24, 2018 03:05 PM (bJ0w+)

8 The Husky that's living here until June got a new tag today. After the name and contact info is the most appropriate statement, "I'm an escape artist."

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 24, 2018 03:06 PM (IcT7t)

9 Nick, give your kitty a pet for us. What a cutie!

Today's pets are a fine crop of moranimals.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 03:07 PM (qJtVm)

10 The Hungarian canine breed "Puli" is the original inspiration for dreadlocks.

Fact.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:07 PM (zCyNd)

11 A superlative group of adorable critters!
All of them are above average.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 03:08 PM (w7KSn)

12 Aw, didn't post in time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8GJMhURnUI

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 03:08 PM (y87Qq)

13 The original recall on that contaminated dog food also included some brands of cat food.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 03:08 PM (mpXpK)

14
Best of Breed for Handsome Dan and Best of Winners to his brother Big Val at today's San Jacinto KC show in LaPorte. Waiting for the Hound Group later.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 03:09 PM (JxaIz)

15 Koushka is awesome.

"You know what would look great draped over, well, anything? A cat. Guess what I happen to be? A cat. Lucky you."

p.s. Lurkeurs: de-lurk!

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (y87Qq)

16 I guess I'm not a pyscho- or sociopath. I have enough empathy to have yawned seeing the yawning cat photo meme. (Or I am a sicko and it's just that I've only had 4 hours sleep.)

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 03:11 PM (ewxPW)

17
The Hungarian canine breed "Puli" is the original inspiration for dreadlocks.

"Yo! What about us?" - Komondorok

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 03:12 PM (JxaIz)

18 Lurker Nick, we have 1 surviving cat Cinnamon who will be 17 soon, her sister passed away last year. She mostly wants a warm lap to rest on.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:13 PM (aC6Sd)

19 What a wonderful group of pets. The video is funny and touching and has that beautiful soundtrack. I had a basset many, many years ago, named Falstaff. Couldn't keep hin when I moved but found a loving home for him with a family that had just lost their basset to old age. Falstaff was probably the best canine clown in history.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 03:14 PM (V+03K)

20 LOVE the above the fold pic!

And well done, Ace of Spade lurkers...cute pets!

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 24, 2018 03:14 PM (U+nHb)

21 >>>Looking out for feral cats.

It's a trap!

Posted by: Adm. Ackbar at February 24, 2018 03:14 PM (/qEW2)

22 When Cinnamon leaves us I think my wife wants a dog, I always loved Husky breed.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:15 PM (aC6Sd)

23 How the heck do you gray box people make such nice pictures? Darnitall, I can't even get one of my kids (with mad skillz) to get decent pix.

Mine also will not, under any circumstances, wear costumes.

Neighbor was over last night and talked about my old cat (she was a mighty hunter) and how that really mean cat would allow her kids to dress her up and walk around with a doll stroller.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:16 PM (MIKMs)

24 >>>A cute wedding.

What's up with the men's weird lapel pins?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 03:17 PM (/qEW2)

25 Weasel, Booger says Hello. Unfortunately, he will now be here until Monday.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2018 03:17 PM (QAjh1)

26 We've got the grandkids here for dinner and overnight, and with them, their 10-month-old Belgian sheepdog.

Imagine a totally black coyote, black eyes, and that's a Belgian. We lost ours to old age three years ago.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 03:18 PM (5OEn4)

27 >>>A cute wedding.

What's up with the men's weird lapel pins?
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 03:17 PM (/qEW2)


I think those are puppies? I'm not a dogologist though.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 03:19 PM (y87Qq)

28 Neighbor was over last night and talked about my old cat (she was a mighty hunter) and how that really mean cat would allow her kids to dress her up and walk around with a doll stroller.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:16 PM (MIKMs)
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I would dress up our cat in baby clothes (even a bonnet!) and wheel her around in a buggy. Mama Cat would put up with it for a while and then say enough! and escape trailing bonnet and capelet.

I have never met another cat that would allow itself to be dressed up in little outfits.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 03:21 PM (qJtVm)

29 Son called and said I will have granddog until he leaves after Monday's funeral services. Neighborhood young man died suddenly (autopsy showed no drugs, thank goodness), so it looks like the old gang is together again.

I am still trying to write down the funny stories about the kid, but not having much luck. Too sad, I guess.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:21 PM (MIKMs)

30 The Hungarian canine breed "Puli" is the original inspiration for dreadlocks.

Fact.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:07 PM (zCyNd)


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So in "Marley and Me" they should have cast a Puli?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 03:24 PM (/qEW2)

31 Mine also will not, under any circumstances, wear costumes.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:16 PM (MIKMs)


The synagogue we used to go to had an annual Blessing of the Pets (a.k.a. Days of Awwww) but we only had one carrier. What to do with the second cat? One of my little sister's doll dresses. One cat, immobilized and humiliated.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 03:24 PM (y87Qq)

32 Great pets as usual.

Love the Pet Thread.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 03:26 PM (B4vfZ)

33 Hssssss!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage



Is that your pet pit viper we're hearing from?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 03:27 PM (fuK7c)

34 "Yo! What about us?" - Komondorok

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 03:12 PM (JxaIz)

Komondors are guard dogs, not the friendliest sort, very territorial.

They have inspired many burglars to find alternate employment.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:28 PM (zCyNd)

35 Who was it who had that big snake as a pet? Called (maybe) Daisy?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 03:28 PM (qJtVm)

36 The Hungarian canine breed "Puli" is the original inspiration for dreadlocks.


Hungarian doggie, dreadlock Puli
There was a Hungarian doggie
In the heart of America
Stolen from Mag-y-ar, brought to America

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 03:32 PM (fuK7c)

37 >>>Basset "Barley Hound" into his house.
It worked-Jason

Barley Hound looks at you adoringly.

Posted by: m at February 24, 2018 03:32 PM (VKsXm)

38 Doggehs are the only thing that makes me think God has some tiny piece of kindness somewhere and doesn't 100% hate the absolute shit out of humanity. Maybe just 99.98%.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 03:33 PM (NWiLs)

39 Hungarian doggie, dreadlock Puli
There was a Hungarian doggie
In the heart of America
Stolen from Mag-y-ar, brought to America

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 03:32 PM (fuK7c)

I ya ya
I ya ya
I ya ya
Now where's the palinka

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:34 PM (zCyNd)

40 A fine flock of furry friends, as always!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 24, 2018 03:34 PM (lLeln)

41
25 Weasel, Booger says Hello. Unfortunately, he will now be here until Monday.
Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2018 03:17 PM (QAjh1)
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I'm sure you'll help him find a good home through the shelter. Thanks, Ben Had!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 03:35 PM (Sfs6o)

42 As a matter of fact, the only time in my many years that a dog bite was serious was a friend who stuck her arm between a Basset Hound and a Standard Poodle when they were arguing/fighting. The girl had lotsa stitches but no foul to the dogs because they were hers. Her parents said she should have known better.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:35 PM (MIKMs)

43 Well, I guess I'll go ahead and take one of the American Eskimo dogs. Make that two.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 03:35 PM (tcwn1)

44 The original recall on that contaminated dog food also included some brands of cat food.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 03:08 PM (mpXpK)


I thought it also included Milkbones but was not specific as there is both a soft chewy version and a hard biscuit version with that brand name.

It was/is very concerning to me since Conor's standard bribe is fractional Milkbone nuggets!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (gwPgz)

45 "Eskimo dogs"? When I make Eskimo pies, that's the secret ingredient I use.

Posted by: Barack Obama at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (/qEW2)

46 Archie the kitty looks just like WeaselCat v2 (except she's a girl)

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (Sfs6o)

47 One cat, immobilized and humiliated.
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hogmartin, maybe the ultimate solution to medicating or clipping cats (snorfls).

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:38 PM (MIKMs)

48 46 Archie the kitty looks just like WeaselCat v2 (except she's a girl)
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (Sfs6o)

That's animal cruelty, forcibly assigning a pet's gender like that.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 03:42 PM (NWiLs)

49 >>>I am still trying to write down the funny stories about the kid, but not having much luck. Too sad, I guess.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:21 PM (MIKMs)

mustbequantum, when a friend of mine died suddenly and I was asked to speak at a memorial service, a friend told me to think of the people who would be there who had NOT known my friend so well, and that this was the chance to let them know about her.
Maybe that will help.

Posted by: m at February 24, 2018 03:43 PM (VKsXm)

50 I lost my childhood dog on my 10th birthday. Snowball was trying to tell me she was going. I missed all the signs - I was only almost 10 ya know.

Dad took me to a movie in the afternoon. He never did that. I should of known something was up.

Came home, lots of long faces, no Snowball waiting for me.

Do you see why I am like I am?

I*m a happy guy but boy I miss that dog.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 03:44 PM (tr2D7)

51 What makes me think God isn't pissed at humanity


Jesus Christ

The Holy Spirit

Scriptures

The apostles

The saints-both named and named

Creation-The beauty of nature, animals

People who care about me and pray for me


I'll post it again, Insomniac, even though this is the pet thread

How to pray when you're pissed at God or anyone else:

https://tinyurl.com/y9fgsbhn


And if you've really contemplating taking your own life sometimes, which you're mentioned several times in previous threads, I suggest you get help NOW, and if you don't you'll much screw up the life of your children for years to come

BTW

Or you could look at "Healing your inner child" for some resources online.

Sorry, folks to highjack the pet thread. It needed to be said

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 03:44 PM (8+Ozj)

52 50 I lost my childhood dog on my 10th birthday. Snowball was trying to tell me she was going. I missed all the signs - I was only almost 10 ya know.

Dad took me to a movie in the afternoon. He never did that. I should of known something was up.

Came home, lots of long faces, no Snowball waiting for me.

Do you see why I am like I am?

I*m a happy guy but boy I miss that dog.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 03:44 PM (tr2D7)

Shit, you made it all dusty in here.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 03:45 PM (NWiLs)

53 That's animal cruelty, forcibly assigning a pet's gender like that.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 03:42 PM (NWiLs)
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I only did it after hearing female orange tabbies are rare or something.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 03:45 PM (Sfs6o)

54 Okay, guess I'll see if I can do this. Been putting it off for... five weeks now? I haven't even been able to look at the Pet Threads meanwhile, because I know it will hurt, because I have to write this.

Our gray cat Spark went out that Saturday night, just like every night of his life. Charlie went out, Spark went out behind him - I almost closed the door on the end of Spark's tail. That was the last Spark was seen.

You may remember me talking about the time we decided, on impulse, to take the long back way home, even though (or maybe because) it was late at night with tired kids. As we turned off the back highway, we saw a cardboard box on its side with two tiny gray kittens sitting on the grass, blinking bewideredly. They can't have been there very long. We stopped, scooped them up, and brought them home. To an already-large collection of critters.

Sixteen years ago. The male we named Spark and his sister we named Spirit.

Spark always got along with everybody. He was close to daughter's basset "Buddy," and became kind of a dog himself. He slept on dog Gimli's bed whereas all the other cats wanted to sleep on our bed. Sometimes Spark would be smack in the middle of Gimli's bed, and the doggie would sit there looking all bewildered. We'd move the cat so the dog could jump up (big bed, plenty of room for everybody).

Spark did not shy away from things as other cats do. He'd just turn his head and watch half-interestedly when the vacuum cleaner was roaring nearby.

Often, cats beg for their food and then sniff at it and turn away. Spark was always there on time for meals, and ate it all without complaint. Even when we bought the pate style by mistake instead of the shreads.

If Spark had a fault, it was that when you picked him up, the claws came out - not to fight, but to cling. It was good to have on thick shirts or denim coat or something. But he was so nice, such a good boy, and loved hugs and pets.

He was so dependable that when he didn't show up by the next morning, I had already lost all hope, but that didn't stop me from standing out in the yard calling for him, while cussing at begging the Almighty to send him home.

Much more to say, but not now. I'll just add, with the loss of Gimli we are without a dog for the first time in maybe twenty years, and now we are down to three cats - not counting the in-town fellow. This is the fewest pets we've had at home since the first two barn-cat litters in 1995.

Feeling the years.

Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)

55 51-I mean, of course, if you don't and take your own life you'll pretty much screw....

June Hunt "Hope For The heart" also has resources in dealing with recovering from abuse

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (8+Ozj)

56 So sorry mindful webworker. Condolences.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (Sfs6o)

57 Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)

+++

That made me cry. So sorry for your losses. You made a very good home for your pets. I am positive they are eternally grateful.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (tcwn1)

58 A fun, cautionary tale.

Once upon a time, I had a guy that I worked with (union president, commie liberal) who was interested in me. I was NOT interested in him, but tolerated him. For the record, at the time he was in his early 50's. So... not a kid.

He had two Eskies. One fateful afternoon, he told me the story, in detail, of how you express the anal glands of a dog.

Note to all single morons: there is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.

Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (aT+Bx)

59 Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)

Sorry, man.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 03:51 PM (NWiLs)

60 Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)

That is a long time to have beloved animal members of your family. I am sorry for your losses.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 03:53 PM (8+Ozj)

61 Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)


I am still waiting for my unexpected box. I may have to go looking for it instead.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 03:54 PM (2DOZq)

62 Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)

I'm so sorry. {hugs}

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 03:54 PM (dUJdY)

63 There is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.
Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (aT+Bx)


LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 03:54 PM (8+Ozj)

64
They're bright, love to do tricks, and shed hair like crazy.


Just like the Horde! Must be true pet 'rons.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 03:54 PM (EzdLW)

65 Thank you, mindfulww. With my sympathy is also an appreciation of how you express love and remembrance. I hope that inspiration will help.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:59 PM (MIKMs)

66 One cat, immobilized and humiliated.
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hogmartin, maybe the ultimate solution to medicating or clipping cats (snorfls).

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 03:38 PM (MIKMs)


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But doesn't that just push the problem back a step?

When I had a cat, I often thought the way to go would be a blowgun to immobilize it. Then go to town: clip the nails, shampoo it, clean the ears, brush the teeth, slip the pill down its throat, etc.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)

67 There is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.
Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (aT+Bx)
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Imagine what his pillow talk would be like.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:00 PM (qJtVm)

68 Sorry to about Sparks MWW.

I hope you find a new four footed friend to help you heal, soon.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 04:02 PM (xJa6I)

69 Feral cats are a huge problem in lots of places. My Karen took in eight of them plus one store bought cat. She tamed them, kept up all the vaccinations and never let them outside. In a 500 sq ft house. Plus me. I was not allowed consideration for a relationship until the cats okayed me. It was a zoo. All gone now and I haven't the heart to try again.

Weasel, from the last thread, be careful with blackberries. In western WA they'll take over a property if not kept under control. Goats will work but you're best off if you have a rent a goat guy for that. Those critters are incredible escape artists.

Posted by: Winston at February 24, 2018 04:02 PM (wgCUV)

70
I am very sorry, mindful. I hope there's closure for your family.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (JxaIz)

71 Posted by: mindful webworker - missing a piece of my heart at February 24, 2018 03:46 PM (xzezz)
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So sorry about Spark! How lucky you were to have him in your family.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (qJtVm)

72 So sorry, MW. It's difficult now, but try to remember all the joy and laughs he brought over the years, not just the loss. Trust me, it helps.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (V+03K)

73 I may have identified the perfect canditate for Moron Mascot.

(pet thread compliant)

http://bit.ly/2sSHf9u

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:08 PM (fuK7c)

74 And yes, Blackberries are pure evil. I culled a pile of them two weeks ago. The cuts are still healing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 04:08 PM (xJa6I)

75 Heartbreaking, Mindful Webworker. But a beautiful tribute to your little buddy as well.

Posted by: Ollie's girl at February 24, 2018 04:10 PM (6Wm6c)

76 The dog in the first pic is looking sideways at the camera. :-) "Are ya getting a good angle? Is the lighting good? Hurry up and take it."

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:10 PM (tnOuI)

77 Wonderful pet photos!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:10 PM (8+Ozj)

78
The late Moron Mascot:

http://soyaraborzoi.com/Sarge.htm

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 04:11 PM (JxaIz)

79 There is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.
Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (aT+Bx)


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Never heard of that before. What a revolting concept. If they can cause problems, why not remove them? They don't really seem essential to survival.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 04:12 PM (/qEW2)

80 There is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.

Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM (aT+Bx)

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Imagine what his pillow talk would be like.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:00 PM
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Lord no.

He was a lifelong bachelor and had no real social skills with female. We suspect that the last time he got any kind of action was in the 70's. Which was... his fault.

Second moral of the story: if we want to have successful personal interactions with the opposite sex, we should make an effort to learn social skills.

Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 04:12 PM (aT+Bx)

81 Llamas are better weed eaters and you don't have the escape problem.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 24, 2018 04:13 PM (QAjh1)

82 Whose a good boy....the one that brings me beer and sammiches....the corgis can fark off those lil limbed queen
liz lezzies.

Posted by: saf at February 24, 2018 04:13 PM (cS/ge)

83 But doesn't that just push the problem back a step?

When I had a cat, I often thought the way to go would be a blowgun to immobilize it. Then go to town: clip the nails, shampoo it, clean the ears, brush the teeth, slip the pill down its throat, etc.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 03:59 PM (/qEW2)


Well, there are two objectives - yeah, ideally you want to keep as much blood as you can on the inside, but it's always good to take a kitty down a notch when it needs it. Smug little fuzzy-butts.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:14 PM (y87Qq)

84 Nice pets Ya'll!......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 04:14 PM (EoRCO)

85 Second moral of the story: if we want to have successful personal interactions with the opposite sex, we should make an effort to learn social skills.
Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 04:12 PM (aT+Bx)

How does one learn social skills, especially later in life? Some people, like myself, were very badly socialized and never learned the things that just seem to come naturally to nearly everyone else?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:15 PM (NWiLs)

86 will not let eye linger on golden retriever puppy. Nope. Not going to do it.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:15 PM (lwiT4)

87 Last sentence shouldn't have had a question mark. Stupid me strikes again.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:15 PM (NWiLs)

88 Petsmart employee goes out of their way to help a sad doggie who misses their favorite discontinued toy:

https://tinyurl.com/y8ffngy9

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:15 PM (8+Ozj)

89 How does one learn social skills, especially later
in life? Some people, like myself, were very badly socialized and never
learned the things that just seem to come naturally to nearly everyone
else?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:15 PM (NWiLs)
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Study people. Mimic them. The pleasant ones I mean. Not the annoying ones. That's what I did.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (lwiT4)

90 Tips for improving social skills for shy and awkward adults:

https://www.succeedsocially.com

Other videos as all over the net

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (8+Ozj)

91 >>>There is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.<<<

Is that what the kids are calling foreplay these days?

*hic* *shart* *cackle* *arf*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (bJ0w+)

92 Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (lwiT4)

Not that he has it, but that's what people with high functioning autism often-watch other people.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (8+Ozj)

93 90 Tips for improving social skills for shy and awkward adults:

https://www.succeedsocially.com

Other videos as all over the net
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (8+Ozj)

That looks interesting. Thanks.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)

94 I recently made a video to guilt a friend of mine into allowing my magnificent, spoiled Basset "Barley Hound" into his house.
It worked-Jason


How could your friend resist those soulful eyes? The bacon pic was classic. Was your friend the dark haired guy...bcz didn't see the dog in that one. Anyway, glad it worked.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (tnOuI)

95 Study people. Mimic them. The pleasant ones I mean. Not the annoying ones. That's what I did.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (lwiT4)

But then I have to be around people. *shudders*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (NWiLs)

96 How does one learn social skills, especially later in life? Some people, like myself, were very badly socialized and never learned the things that just seem to come naturally to nearly everyone else?
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:15 PM (NWiLs)

++

I doubt, I doubt very much at all that you'd start talking about the anal gland expressing of dogs to a potential lady friend. I'm betting it would never even occur to you!

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (tcwn1)

97 Study people. Mimic them. The pleasant ones I mean. Not the annoying ones. That's what I did.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (lwiT4)
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No, we love you Grammie!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:20 PM (qJtVm)

98 Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (NWiLs)


What happened to going to see BB play? Ya know, just hanging out. I thought that sounded like a great way to dip your toe in. No expectations or pressure. But a way to get out of the house.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (tnOuI)

99 92 Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (lwiT4)

Not that he has it, but that's what people with high functioning autism often-watch other people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (8+Ozj)

I'm probably not autistic in the organic sense, but have a whole host of other issues that put together look a bit like high-functioning autism/Aspergers.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (NWiLs)

100 Not that he has it, but that's what people with high functioning autism often-watch other people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (8+Ozj)


Hah ... we're talking about one of my favorite topics here.

Insom ... you think you're On The Spectrum ? Hell - I wouldn't doubt it. You're Smart ... Hence Crazy. You don't get one without the other.

Pardner ... what do you want to know ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (fiGNd)

101 Adorable baby and puppy picture:

https://tinyurl.com/yb7vlnec

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (8+Ozj)

102 "How does one learn social skills, especially later
in life? Some people, like myself, were very badly socialized and never learned the things that just seem to come naturally to nearly everyone else? "

Remember to smile. I had to learn to do that. It doesn't come naturally to most people. People love a smiling face.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (w7KSn)

103 But then I have to be around people. *shudders*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (NWiLs)
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Go to a dog park. At least half the animate objects there will be pleasant, even if their owners are not. But It's been my experience that dog park people or humane society people are nice. Go hang out at the kennel.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (lwiT4)

104 But then I have to be around people. *shudders*
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (NWiLs)


And then you get your scent on them and the mother won't take them back...

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (y87Qq)

105 Has anyone determined why a cat is compelled to lie down on whatever you emplace?

Like, I put a small hankerchief down on a king-size bed and ONLY that tiny space will do to curl up.

Is it just a need to dominate and claim my stuff as his?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (qJtVm)

106 I doubt, I doubt very much at all that you'd start talking about the anal gland expressing of dogs to a potential lady friend. I'm betting it would never even occur to you!
Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (tcwn1)

Well, no, I wouldn't unless I knew she was a veterinarian or pet groomer or something. Probably not even then. But it doesn't really address the broader question.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (NWiLs)

107 Pet related. We were leaving the jewlers after getting Mrs. JTB's watch fixed. The window display caught my eye. There they were: sterling silver earrings with puppy paw prints cut into them. And they have the kind of loop (if that's the word) she prefers. Mrs. JTB rarely indulges herself but considering how we've had dogs for almost all our marriage, she couldn't resist.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (V+03K)

108 Remember to smile. I had to learn to do that. It doesn't come naturally to most people. People love a smiling face.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (w7KSn)

I hate smiling. It makes me look like a total idiot.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (NWiLs)

109 And then you get your scent on them and the mother won't take them back...
Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (y87Qq)

And I wouldn't blame her.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (NWiLs)

110 Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (lwiT4)

And pet rescue places often have volunteers who walk the dogs. He could interact with the employees and then get to take doggies-which he likes- out for walks

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:24 PM (8+Ozj)

111 BREAKING: White House agrees to release Schiff memo with reductions.

http://cnn.it/2HJGO4z

Posted by: Michael the Texan at February 24, 2018 04:24 PM (nvMvs)

112 105 Has anyone determined why a cat is compelled to lie down on whatever you emplace?

Like, I put a small hankerchief down on a king-size bed and ONLY that tiny space will do to curl up.

Is it just a need to dominate and claim my stuff as his?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (qJtVm)

I think it comes down to the cats = assholes axiom.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:24 PM (NWiLs)

113 I hate smiling. It makes me look like a total idiot.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (NWiLs)

No, it doesn't. Stop telling yourself that!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:24 PM (8+Ozj)

114 I used to be scared to death of people. Literally shaking scared. I could hardly leave my house. I still don't like to go to "functions". So I married a minister. Heh. Where I have to go to all the potlucks, and shake everybody's hand after church.


argle bargle

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (lwiT4)

115 Is it just a need to dominate and claim my stuff as his?


In my (involuntary, yet persisting) cat experience, yes.

Little bastard only takes pleasure in sleeping in prime places and proving that he's the most important critter in the 'verse.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (fuK7c)

116 Is it just a need to dominate and claim my stuff as his? Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (qJtVm)

Yes, and they like to curl up on something that has your scent if they like you-and I'm assuming they do. :^).

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (8+Ozj)

117 Well, no, I wouldn't unless I knew she was a veterinarian or pet groomer or something. Probably not even then. But it doesn't really address the broader question.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (NWiLs)

+++

On this site you come across as extremely intelligent, quick-witted, funny, and warm. I don't see how you could be much different than that in "real-life". You certainly know how to carry on a conversation.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (tcwn1)

118 Heh. Finished moving all the furniture out of the living room because we're restaining the floor. Kitteh status: Perturbed

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llamabutcher at February 24, 2018 04:26 PM (PkxCR)

119 I hate smiling. It makes me look like a total idiot.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (NWiLs)

No, it makes you feel uncomfortable, but I'm guessing you look just fine.

We're not talking a creepy rictus grin here, Insom. Just a pleasant smile and a nod of the head.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:26 PM (qJtVm)

120 Fenelon - I was thinking about the walkies too.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:26 PM (lwiT4)

121 Has anyone determined why a cat is compelled to lie down on whatever you emplace?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:22 PM (qJtVm)


Or a single sheet of notebook paper in an otherwise empty room: the cat will perch on the paper. Not the corner, not the windowsill... the paper out in the middle of the floor.

If there is a thing, and there is a cat, the cat will be on the thing.

¯\_(ツ_/¯

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:27 PM (y87Qq)

122 Insom ... you think you're On The Spectrum ? Hell - I wouldn't doubt it. You're Smart ... Hence Crazy. You don't get one without the other.

Pardner ... what do you want to know ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (fiGNd)

I don't necessarily think I'm on the spectrum, which I believe gets WAY overused. I just have a cluster of traits that result in somewhat similar behaviors.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

123

Study people. Mimic them. The pleasant ones I mean. Not the annoying ones. That's what I did.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (lwiT4)

But then I have to be around people. *shudders*
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM



Bingo.

Okay, here's the thing. ( as Adrian Monk would say ).

**types rant about how normies don't understand how some people need more help than just a nifty little "social skills" course**

**deletes, because this is the pet thread**

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (EzdLW)

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (EzdLW)

125 Not that he has it, but that's what people with high functioning autism often-watch other people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (8+Ozj)

I'm probably not autistic in the organic sense, but have a whole host of other issues that put together look a bit like high-functioning autism/Aspergers.
Posted by: Insomniac


Word. Suspected but never diagnosed, and I know I have a half-brother who's full autistic, so it's probably lurking. Frankly the acting classes I took while younger are probably what's gotten me this far. Aside from that, I'm a damned trainwreck.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (lLeln)

126 Smile with your eyes.

I rarely laugh in-person.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (Ckg4U)

127 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 04:26 PM (qJtVm)

LOL. Yeah, he doesn't have to look like Jack Nicholson and " Heeeeere's Johhny" from "The Shining" ;^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (8+Ozj)

128 "I hate smiling."

Practice in front of a mirror.
Learn to like yourself.

I don't know your gender, but especially men, when older and frowning, can be downright scary looking.

Someone showed me a picture they took of me when I wasn't prepared for it, I was frowning and looking downward. It changed my life. From then on, I was determined to smile more often, don't look downward in a dejected way. Comb the hair. Shave. Smell nice. Remember names of the people you meet. (That one is really difficult) Today I think I can name 2500 or so people I know, and their wives and children. It takes work.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:29 PM (w7KSn)

129 **types rant about how normies don't understand how some people need more help than just a nifty little "social skills" course**

I understand that. I have a kid on the spectrum, but it's a start.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:30 PM (8+Ozj)

130 114 I used to be scared to death of people. Literally shaking scared. I could hardly leave my house. I still don't like to go to "functions". So I married a minister. Heh. Where I have to go to all the potlucks, and shake everybody's hand after church.


argle bargle
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (lwiT4)

I think they call that immersion therapy.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:30 PM (NWiLs)

131 When Cinnamon leaves us I think my wife wants a dog, I always loved Husky breed.

Beef up your gate, extend the height of your fence, and watch for digging. Huskies really are escape artists.

Oh, and don't be surprised if your future husky chews up thin metal or plastic "kennel" containers.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 24, 2018 04:30 PM (IcT7t)

132 Insom ... the answer is really kinda' simple. It's one of those things that - once you figure it out - makes you want to slap yourself.

Some people just grow up, develop all their habits, and that kinda' dictates how they'll live the rest of their lives.

But you ... My Man ... you got A Great Big Fucking Gift. I'm not joking.

You still have time to PICK the kind of personality you want. So just look around - pick the personality you want - and then build that. Before you know it - you won't even have to think about it. You'll just do it.

What kind of Personality do you want ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 04:31 PM (fiGNd)

133 LOL. Yeah, he doesn't have to look like Jack Nicholson and " Heeeeere's Johhny" from "The Shining" ;^)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (8+Ozj)

+++

LOL. What a thought.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 04:31 PM (tcwn1)

134
One fateful afternoon, he told me the story, in detail, of how you express the anal glands of a dog.

Note to all single morons: there is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.
Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 03:50 PM



Well, if you were both veterinarians, it might work.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 04:31 PM (EzdLW)

135 I have to practice smiling. My face just naturally goes into a I Hate You look. Not appealing. So now I practice pulling my mouth muscles back.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:31 PM (lwiT4)

136 People don't change.

Posted by: Greg House, M.D. at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (EzdLW)

137 Today I think I can name 2500 or so people I know, and their wives and children. It takes work.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:29 PM (w7KSn)

Wow. I guess I'm an even bigger ass than I thought (and that's saying something). I don't even want to know 2500 people, much less their families.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (12Ea6)

138 ScoggDog - you are right on target.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (lwiT4)

139 What kind of Personality do you want ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 04:31 PM (fiGNd)


If anyone ever offers me this opportunity and I don't immediately choose "Johnny from Airplane!", feel free to gut-punch me.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:33 PM (y87Qq)

140 I know maybe 8 people.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:33 PM (lwiT4)

141 But then I have to be around people. *shudders*
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You have to be around people, but not necessarily interact with them.

Go to the mall. Put in earbuds. Pretend you're listening to music.

Then.. observe.

Posted by: shibumi at February 24, 2018 04:33 PM (aT+Bx)

142 14 ... Hadrian,

Congratulations on the wins today. You must have an exceptional group.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 04:34 PM (V+03K)

143 I think they call that immersion therapy.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:30 PM (NWiLs)
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Oh no. They're Lutherans.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:34 PM (lwiT4)

144 Remember names of the people you meet. (That one is really difficult)


I have a couple of workarounds for that.

One is to assume that the other person is as bad with names as I am, or to pretend that assumption in a disarming way. So, "I know we've met. My name is Mike".

(That should be enough of a clue for someone to say, "of course, Mike, I'm Susan". But if Susan doesn't get it she won't repeat her own name).

The other is the flat out "I'm sorry, I'm really bad at names. I'm Mike, you are...?"

For unexplained reasons I'm OK with the names of really good looking girls.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:34 PM (fuK7c)

145
Has anyone determined why a cat is compelled to lie down on whatever you emplace?

=====

Guess it depends on the cat. My current Cat does that. My previous cats chewed like puppies on my stuff. Of course, I got snuffly a while ago when I found some books with chewed corners from the past cat.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 04:34 PM (MIKMs)

146 Insomniac, I think you should try to model yourself after all the talking heads on CNN.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:35 PM (12Ea6)

147
I think they call that immersion therapy.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:30 PM (NWiLs)


Baptism by fire hose.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 04:35 PM (JxaIz)

148 Weasel, from the last thread, be careful with blackberries. In western WA they'll take over a property if not kept under control. Goats will work but you're best off if you have a rent a goat guy for that. Those critters are incredible escape artists.
Posted by: Winston at February 24, 2018 04:02 PM (wgCUV)
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Thanks for the tip! I suspect I already have a bunch on the property, and I usually manage to kill anything that I plant. Let's just say my farming skills are underdeveloped.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 04:36 PM (Sfs6o)

149 I am in a profession where I meet a lot of people.
Nothing worse than someone coming up to me and asking "Don't you remember me?"
I had a guy come up to me and ask me that, recently. I hadn't seen him in 35 years. I named him, asked about his wife (she passed) and asked him if he still lived in (x).

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:36 PM (w7KSn)

150 I second Grammie's recommendation. Dog parks are wonderful for socializing without pressure. We moved to a new state after living in the old one for 35 years. First thing I did was look for the dog park. I'm not really outgoing, but have run into the nicest people, no cranks. It's not just dog owners. There's a lovely older couple who come for their daily walk there, just to be around dogs as they can't have one in their condo. People love their dogs and will talk to anyone who likes them. When you've had enough, you just leave.

Posted by: Ollie's girl at February 24, 2018 04:37 PM (6Wm6c)

151 Someone's probably thought of this before- a compilation of the funniest online dating profiles.

"I'm a dog person. In fact, if you have a dog, I can even express its glands for you before your very eyes. Save you a trip to the vet. That's how into it I am. What about it?"

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 04:37 PM (/qEW2)

152 Of course, there is nothing wrong with just asking the person "Sorry, please remind me of your name".

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:38 PM (w7KSn)

153 There is no world in which a female wants to hear about how to express the anal glands of a dog. Unless she asks you first.

Is that what the kids are calling foreplay these days?


Yes, regrettably, it's true, standards have fallen. Now that we're competing with the amateurs, we can't afford to invest in little extras like story, production value, ...

Posted by: Jackie Shoehorn at February 24, 2018 04:38 PM (S+f+m)

154 You can always just paint a smile on your face like the Joker.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 04:38 PM (2DOZq)

155 On this site you come across as extremely intelligent, quick-witted, funny, and warm. I don't see how you could be much different than that in "real-life". You certainly know how to carry on a conversation.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (tcwn1)

The anonymity afforded by the Internet takes my social phobia out of the equation, which helps a lot.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:38 PM (NWiLs)

156 I talked to myself all the time to develop tone, cadence and timing.

I speak like I type.

Talk to me on the phone and as I read this post to you, you'll never be able to separate my posts from my voice again.

I practiced this shit out loud so I wouldn't sound like an idiot when I spoke to people.

I'm not the brightest bulb in the fuckin' house, but it took practice.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:39 PM (Ckg4U)

157 ScoggDog - you are right on target.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (lwiT4)


*winks*

And I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm this way because I chose to be. And I LIKE being the Smart Redneck.

But I ain't gonna' lie ... in Elementary and Middle School ... it scared the shit out of me. The knowledge that I simply did not have a personality. Everything had to be thought out. It sucked.

But damn ... how awesome is it to get that far and then get to PICK what you want to be ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 04:39 PM (fiGNd)

158 143 I think they call that immersion therapy.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:30 PM (NWiLs)
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Oh no. They're Lutherans.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:34 PM (lwiT4)

*snort*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:40 PM (NWiLs)

159 Insomniac is going to come up with a bad case of kennel cough, I just know it.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:40 PM (lwiT4)

160 I second Grammie's recommendation. Dog parks are wonderful for socializing without pressure.


Nah. Insom should hang around playgrounds. Epecially like Catholic school ones where the girls wear the plaid skirts. That will get him some socializing experience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:41 PM (fuK7c)

161 What kind of Personality do you want ?
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 04:31 PM (fiGNd)

I'm not really sure.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:42 PM (NWiLs)

162 "I'm not really sure."
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:42 PM (NWiLs)

*Pick Me! Pick Me!*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:43 PM (Ckg4U)

163 I play at a club every Monday night. It has a bouncer. A big ugly dude. Everyone just walks by him, doesn't really notice him at all.
My first night there, I introduced myself, asked what is his name. Shook his hand.
His face lit up. Big smile. Big laugh. Now I know him, his name, his kids, his multiple wives (including the divorcee). Turns out he is the most cheerful fellow.
Plus no one f*cks with me while play my gig. LOL!

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:44 PM (w7KSn)

164 146 Insomniac, I think you should try to model yourself after all the talking heads on CNN.
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:35 PM (12Ea6)

Why are you trying to sabotage me? What did I ever do to you?

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:44 PM (NWiLs)

165 Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:41 PM (fuK7c)

Interactions with law enforcement and the court system isn't really what I had in mind.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:45 PM (NWiLs)

166 I'm not really sure.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:42 PM (NWiLs)
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Smart. Witty. Kind. Fair. Common Sense. Doesn't go out with his fly down. Also likes : (fill in a hobby)

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:45 PM (lwiT4)

167 103 But then I have to be around people. *shudders*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (NWiLs)
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Go to a dog park. At least half the animate objects there will be pleasant, even if their owners are not. But It's been my experience that dog park people or humane society people are nice. Go hang out at the kennel.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (lwiT4)

Yep.

Getting a dog and walking it in the dog park will change your life.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 04:45 PM (xJa6I)

168 Insomniac, I think you should try to model yourself after all the talking heads on CNN.
-Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:35 PM (12Ea6)

"Why are you trying to sabotage me? What did I ever do to you?"
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:44 PM (NWiLs)

Yeah, dude. Not Cool.

[ ]Plussed
[x] Nonplussed

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:46 PM (Ckg4U)

169 159 Insomniac is going to come up with a bad case of kennel cough, I just know it.
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:40 PM (lwiT4)

Distemper.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:46 PM (NWiLs)

170 Also likes : (fill in a hobby)
Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:45 PM (lwiT4)


I'm not sure this is going to end up in a good place.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:46 PM (y87Qq)

171 I'm not sure this is going to end up in a good place.

Posted by: hogmartin at February 24, 2018 04:46 PM (y87Qq)
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I see your point.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:47 PM (lwiT4)

172 BTW... *YAY* Doggies and Kitties!!!

...yeah, I make "that voice" when I get to know silly, loveable pets.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:48 PM (Ckg4U)

173 Insomniac, I think you should try to model yourself after all the talking heads on CNN.
-Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:35 PM (12Ea6)

"Why are you trying to sabotage me? What did I ever do to you?"
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:44 PM (NWiLs)

Yeah, dude. Not Cool.

[ ]Plussed
[x] Nonplussed
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:46 PM (Ckg4U)

I didn't tell him to mimic MSNBC people. Just trying to keep him classy and stuff.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:48 PM (12Ea6)

174
Interactions with law enforcement and the court system isn't really what I had in mind.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:45 PM (NWiLs)


So now you're getting picky

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 04:48 PM (lKyWE)

175 We have 4 inside-outside cats that we're batting .500 on getting fixed. The momma cat and one male have been TNR'd.

Momma (aka Black Betty) is more of the "inside" kind of cat. Her kids, not so much... hence the name.

Ram Jam - "Black Betty" '77

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at February 24, 2018 04:48 PM (iiixZ)

176 But don't WANNA be a liberal homo!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:49 PM (NWiLs)

177 Insomniac - do you have any hobbies? If so, try to find people with the same interests. I used to do a lot of hiking and volunteered with a trail club doing trail maintenance. Met a bunch of people that way.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (Sfs6o)

178 "I didn't tell him to mimic MSNBC people. Just trying to keep him classy and stuff."
-Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:48 PM (12Ea6)

Please allow me to take that particular shovel and put it back in the shed. I happen to like you.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (Ckg4U)

179 Speaking of dogs, Soros' pet at National Review Mona Charen left a poo at CPAC just now.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (6FqZa)

180 177 Insomniac - do you have any hobbies? If so, try to find people with the same interests. I used to do a lot of hiking and volunteered with a trail club doing trail maintenance. Met a bunch of people that way.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (Sfs6o)

Used to.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (NWiLs)

181 Also likes : long nighttime helicopter rides.

Posted by: Pinochet at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (SkuXa)

182
But don't WANNA be a liberal homo!
====================


Well dear, sometimes these things just .... happen. We won't judge.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (lwiT4)

183 181 Also likes : long nighttime helicopter rides.
Posted by: Pinochet at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (SkuXa)

Shoving commie scum onto the beach from 3,000 feet, sunsets and the soothing sounds of Neil Sedaka

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:52 PM (NWiLs)

184 My yard was made for a dog with a smaller fenced in area than the whole yard. I improved it making it a bit larger and better gates, mostly to try and keep out groundhogs and other big rodents.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:52 PM (aC6Sd)

185 Marry me.

Posted by: Pinochet at February 24, 2018 04:53 PM (SkuXa)

186
Used to.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (NWiLs)
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Well it may be time to start doing the things you used to enjoy again. It's an opportunity to meet new people and have fun in the process.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 04:53 PM (Sfs6o)

187 "I didn't tell him to mimic MSNBC people. Just trying to keep him classy and stuff."
-Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:48 PM (12Ea6)

Please allow me to take that particular shovel and put it back in the shed. I happen to like you.
Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (Ckg4U)

How about NPR?

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:53 PM (12Ea6)

188 Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:50 PM (Ckg4U)

How about NPR?
Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:53 PM (12Ea6)

Great. Liberal, gay, AND boring.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:54 PM (NWiLs)

189 Chess Dress Nood

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:54 PM (aC6Sd)

190 "Great. Liberal, gay, AND boring."
-Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 04:54 PM (NWiLs)

At least you now have a peculiar voice.

*shrugs*

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:55 PM (Ckg4U)

191 Insomniac #38: Doggehs are the only thing that makes me think God has some tiny piece of kindness somewhere...

I'd count this as progress in Insomniac's path to greater faith.

Puppy steps.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Dog loves you at February 24, 2018 04:55 PM (pQplJ)

192 "I'd count this as progress in Insomniac's path to greater faith."

Dude is full of goodness.

He is like a nougaty-center in a non-gay way.

Posted by: Slapweasel, (Cold1), (T) at February 24, 2018 04:57 PM (Ckg4U)

193 Bonus: men with dogs are highly susceptible to women stopping for a short chat. Whenever we have the dog with us and I have to run into the store, there is always a woman talking to him and the dog when I come out.

Posted by: Ollie's girl at February 24, 2018 04:57 PM (6Wm6c)

194 "What kind of friend would need this video to allow that cutie into his house? You and Barley Hound are invited to stop by anytime you want. Thanks for sharing this video."

A friend who is basically a neutered sock puppet with his wife's hand shoved up his ass, moving his mouth.

Thanks for the invite, we'll be by tomorrow night. Barley Hound like bunnies.

Posted by: Jason M at February 24, 2018 05:02 PM (S1+dw)

195 >>>I know maybe 8 people.
Posted by: grammie winger<<<

It's your cooking. No, really.

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 05:03 PM (bJ0w+)

196 Thanks for the chuckles guys. Some good advice given here but w/ a lot of humorous asides. And great looking pets displayed here, as usual.

Posted by: Farmer at February 24, 2018 05:14 PM (lfXAE)

197 Adorable pets in the pics

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:28 PM (1F6Sr)

198 Still thinking of last week pic of beagle sitting on top of black cat.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 05:31 PM (1F6Sr)

199 I don't even want to know 2500 people, much less their families.

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (12Ea6)


Suddenly I feel like I belong!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 05:32 PM (gwPgz)

200 Thank you to all for your responses about Spark. I knew I'd be in sympathetic community. Thanks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - smile and the world laughs at you at February 24, 2018 05:42 PM (pQplJ)

201 Nobody wants to smile like Jim Carrey in Dumb & Dumber. Gotta learn, even practice in the mirror as someone said. Non-vainly, besides. Practicing the gift of a nice expression.

You think smiling makes you look like an idiot, what about a goofy laugh!?!

My older brother could be a jerk (God bless him), but he had a really nice smile and an honest, hearty laugh. I strove to emulate them. In my own style.

For those of us on the non-typical learners spectrum, it's not acting or faking or mimicking - it's learning ordinary skills, with effort, what for others comes naturally.

Posted by: mindful webworker - laugh and they leave you alone at February 24, 2018 05:58 PM (pQplJ)

202 I scored BIG TIME last week!!! I clipped both cats's back nails singlehandedly without losing a single drop of blood or even a single skin cell. Of course, one of the cats was a Persian, so I'm not sure that counts as two cats. (Neither has front claws. Not my idea. They came that way. I know that's cheating, but those hind class can be damn dangerous when the car puts its mind to it.)

Posted by: Deplorable Lady with Only Two Deplorable Cats at February 24, 2018 06:52 PM (012yj)

203 And yes, Blackberries are pure evil. I culled a pile of them two weeks ago. The cuts are still healing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 04:08 PM (xJa6I)

The berries sure are yummy, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 08:00 PM (Dbv1R)

Saturday Gardening Thread: Looking Forward, Looking Back [KT]

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"Maintaining heritage is a good thing" - Illiniwek

Planting corn, horses must have liked this better than plowing.

Hello, Gardeners and Friends of Gardeners. A while back, Illiniwek had a good idea: Why not, during the gardening off-season, reflect a little on the farm and garden developments that got us to where we are today? He has sent in some heritage photos of the garden, yard, structures and farm of his family from years gone by. Do you have any photos like that? Sent some in for next week.

This is also the time of year in much of the country where gardening involves work in hopes of future rewards. The RHS suggested garden activities for February are heavy on work, light on immediate rewards.

Our photos today from The Horde show a few rewards, but also reflect work.

Cumberland Astro sends the following:

Here are a couple of pictures I took in the past week at my bird feeder (black oil sunflower seed.) One picture is of a Red Bellied Woodpecker and the other is of Bluebirds. Both are very common in the woods behind my house, but I had never before seen them at the feeder.

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The first half of winter here on Tennessee's Cumberland Plateau was brutally cold, with the temperature often in single digits, and extended periods of below-freezing temperatures. I'm guessing that bugs and other preferred foods are pretty scarce, so these guys are now having to hang out with the seed feeders to get a good meal.

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Nice to get a little action at the feeders when you invite birds. Any new bird signtings in your yard or neighborhood?

A reminder that sunflower seeds inhibit the growth of some plants. Don't put a feeder by precious, delicate garden plants.

Sherpa_K2 has some Winter Bamboo that looks full grown

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and a lot of plants emerging. Here are a few:

Artichoke. Looks kind weedy when young, I think. Impressive plant when larger.

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Bluebells. I'm guessing that you would have to know where you planted these to know what they were.

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Bearded Iris. Can't wait to see these in bloom.

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Gardens of The Horde

We didn't have much in the way of cold weather here in the San Joaquin Valley during the fall and early winter, but we are getting some hard frosts now. Kind of late for that around here. Has to be Global Warming.

Flowers near the house seem to be OK. I'll have to check the fruit trees in a few days.

Anything going on in your garden, yard or outdoor nieghborhood?

If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at g mail dot com

Include your nic unless you want to be a lurker.

Got any strawberry questions or experiences? Favorite varieties? Non-standard types?

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Just Add Cream


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1 Those strawberries look sort of odd.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (mIJBI)

2 Yes, HH. They are not a standard variety. They are more like wild strawberries. Note the pink flowers.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (BVQ+1)

3 Rocks and Beauty were those two horses, iirc. They had like six others. Amazing they could get 250 acres planted like that, and plowed, and harvested by hand. Big families were common, as were big gardens. But they found time to grow flowers too.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:58 PM (bT8Z4)

4 HI KT!!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:59 PM (Sfs6o)

5 i used to love strawberries, but they seem more sour and tasteless than the sweet berries i recall in my youth. may be it's me. maybe it's the imports of some generic large but tasteless varieties.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at February 24, 2018 01:01 PM (Pg+x7)

6 illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:58 PM

Beautiful horses. My mother grew up on a farm with both work horses and tractors. My aunt was once brushed off the back of a horse rushing back to the barn and knocked out cold. When she came to, she couldn't remember what peanuts were.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 01:01 PM (BVQ+1)

7
Thanks for the Garden Thread, KT.

Lawn is greening up, growing... and sodden for the last three months. More rain forecast too. I fear for the future.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (oHfF3)

8 Used to pick wild strawberries when I was a kid in upstate NY. Man those things were small.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (mIJBI)

9 Some years ago, I bought a little pot that came
with strawberry seeds for $1.00 at Target. The strawberries were tiny,
but delicious. I divided repotted the plants every year and they
kept producing berries. We'd eat them by the
handful like candy. I don't know the variety, but they were incredibly
sweet. Not a bad return on my investment!

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (akSgU)

10 Jethro Tull!!!

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (LWu6U)

11 Short post today. I'm going to be away from the internet for much of the day, but I will check back later.

Really love the heritage idea, Illiniwek. I think I can access some old farm structure photos from my family, but I don't think the quality of the photos is real good.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (BVQ+1)

12 im thinking about a blackberry/raspberry patch for WeaselAcres.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 01:04 PM (Sfs6o)

13 They're too big and uniform to be wild strawberries.

Posted by: Surfperch at February 24, 2018 01:04 PM (BwJGV)

14 Hi, Weasel!

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 01:04 PM (BVQ+1)

15 Re: Bird sightings...

Was sitting on the back porch of Casa Backwardio one morning last week drinking a cup of coffee (my morning constitutional, as it were).

Woodpeckers are common and the ones I usually see are pretty noisy. Occasionally, I'll see a red-headed one since they're pretty big (about the size of a crow) and easy to spot. That morning I saw a whole red-headed woodpecker family out for breakfast in two trees; Papa, Momma and Baby.

That was pretty kewl.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (tRaq7)

16 The Traditional Farming Year, by Paul Heiney. It's described as outlining the farming practices that great grandparents would have followed, although it describes traditional British farms. After reading it I understand why some of my great grandparents left the farm!

Posted by: Lirio100 at February 24, 2018 01:06 PM (JK7Jw)

17 Hoplite Housewife at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM

There are several species of wild strawberries, and even more garden cultivars developed from them. We can discuss them here, maybe next week.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 01:06 PM (BVQ+1)

18 There is an old documentary from BBC. I think it was called "victorian kitchen garden." which is amazing if you are interested in old gardening techniques. highly recommended.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 01:06 PM (LWu6U)

19 I gotta go no. Taking people to an event today. I'll check back later.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (BVQ+1)

20 Rocks and Beauty were those two horses, iirc. They
had like six others. Amazing they could get 250 acres planted like that,
and plowed, and harvested by hand. Big families were common, as were
big gardens. But they found time to grow flowers too. Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:58 PM (bT8Z4)
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I always enjoy seeing the plowhorses like that. Hard working, good natured and from the descriptions, easy keepers. Don't eat a lot and very much a valuable part of the family.

Of course you all know my descriptor of our family members as Clydesdales.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 01:08 PM (MIKMs)

21 Rocks and Beauty were those two horses, iirc.

They look like draft horses, as opposed to the canned ones.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (tRaq7)

22 That first pic looks like a variegated woodpecker. We have a lot of those around here as well as the red headed woodpecker.


http://tinyurl.com/ydfdny9d

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (mpXpK)

23 We also have a lot of bluebirds due to me putting up three houses.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 01:10 PM (mpXpK)

24 17
Hoplite Housewife at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM



There are several species of wild strawberries, and even more garden
cultivars developed from them. We can discuss them here, maybe next
week.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at February 24, 2018 01:06 PM (BVQ+1)
---------------Thank you - any information on growing strawberries would be much appreciated. Although your gardening expertise and that of the horde is always appreciated!

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 24, 2018 01:10 PM (akSgU)

25 I can see the lawn!!

It is so warm here right now I worry about a false spring. The trees are looking to bud.

On a positive note, I got a big earth box order this week. YAY!!

Posted by: Ann at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (jtHQy)

26
Used to pick wild strawberries when I was a kid in upstate NY. Man those things were small.
Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (mIJBI)

My family spent a summer in a rural area of upper Michigan when I was a kid. We loved picking blackberries and something called "thimble berries". My mother would make blackberry cobbler--the thimble berries we just ate off the bushes till we got stomach aches. Wonderful.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (g5YYQ)

27 I've been contemplating put up a large hollow gourd or two in the hopes of attracting some purple martins. Those guys love to eat mosquitos.

Have to do some reading up on them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (tRaq7)

28 "When she came to, she couldn't remember what peanuts were.
"
Posted by: KT

that's pretty funny ...

yeah the heritage ideas seem important not just for nostalgia, but to help build our awareness of who we are, how we got here, what's it all about, Alfie? Lots of important "grounding" in the basics, then we can grow from there, maybe. Hopefully others have some good heritage pics ...

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 01:13 PM (bT8Z4)

29
I can see the lawn!!
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Yeah, so can I. There is no way to clean up the layers of dog dirt after a snowmelt. Guess I'll just wait until April when most of it is composted in the lawn.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 01:14 PM (MIKMs)

30 Yesterday evening, before the sun went down, I put out weed and feed for the lawn and Osmocote for the flowering plants in the yard. March should be a period of dramatic growth with April bursting forth in flowers. I hope my mondevilla is blooming by April.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at February 24, 2018 01:14 PM (r+mGZ)

31 They look like draft horses, as opposed to the canned ones.
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Or bottled.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (MIKMs)

32 Used to pick wild strawberries when I was a kid in upstate NY. Man those things were small.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (mIJBI)

In Sweden, my ex taught me to thread them onto a straw (they were pea-sized). When the straw was full, pop them right into your mouth. Wonderful flavor!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (cu8/f)

33 Yeah, so can I. There is no way to clean up the layers of dog dirt after a snowmelt. Guess I'll just wait until April when most of it is composted in the lawn.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 01:14 PM (MIKMs)

Agreed.

At least there is no snow mold this year.

Posted by: Ann at February 24, 2018 01:17 PM (jtHQy)

34 Anyone have experience buying plants and trees from seed catalog places (like Burpee)? I've only ever bought seeds. I'm wondering if I'd be better going this route for plants and trees or a local garden place.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM (Sfs6o)

35 I've been contemplating put up a large hollow gourd
or two in the hopes of attracting some purple martins. Those guys love
to eat mosquitos.



Have to do some reading up on them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (tRaq7)

Our neighbors had a purple martin house. Looked like a freaking condo.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (cu8/f)

36 I wuz corn fed ..i will not lie...the corn burnt the roof of my arse...why do Iowans DO THIS to neighbours?

Posted by: saf at February 24, 2018 01:22 PM (cS/ge)

37 my rosemary keep dying. this year I plan to put four in various locations to see which ones survive.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 01:22 PM (LWu6U)

38
At my last house I planted a couple strawberry plants at one end of a twenty foot long stretch of mulched area next to the swimming pool. Years later they had filled the area. My kids still remember picking fresh strawberries, eating them, and diving back into the pool.

Highly recommended ground cover. Plus real food.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 01:23 PM (2FqvZ)

39 What zone am I in? Does it matter? I want to ignore the one from 2012, cause, well.

7a according to new 2012 map
6a according to the pre 1990 map

Posted by: Infidel at February 24, 2018 01:26 PM (a3OL0)

40 Anyone have experience buying plants and trees from seed catalog places (like Burpee)? I've only ever bought seeds. I'm wondering if I'd be better going this route for plants and trees or a local garden place.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM


Yup. They're fine. But you expect a certain size in your mind and what ships is a very small percentage of what you imagine. Picture 'butterfly bush' and when it arrives it's maybe six inches long.

Same thing with trees. Tiny. Maybe a foot long. If you're only 29 years old you have plenty of time.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 01:26 PM (2FqvZ)

41 I was looking through the sculpture collection at Frederik Meijer Gardens and Sculpture Park in Grand Rapids MI and I think I've found the perfect addition for a Wicker Man-themed garden:

http://www.meijergardens.org/attractions/sculpture-collection/

Scroll down to "Espaliered Girl".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 01:26 PM (qJtVm)

42 my rosemary keep dying. this year I plan to put four in various locations to see which ones survive.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 01:22 PM (LWu6U)

I grow rosemary in a pot on my porch. Nothing seems to kill it. But I can't keep cilantro alive for more than a week or two, and I love it in salsa.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (g5YYQ)

43 Just checking in as there's not much to report at the stately Blake manor.

March 10, which is planting day, cannot get here soon enough!

Posted by: Blake at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (WEBkv)

44 Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 01:26 PM (2FqvZ)
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Good point. I hate when that happens. Maybe I will stick with local nurseries or the co-op.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 01:30 PM (Sfs6o)

45 There is no way to clean up the layers of dog dirt
after a snowmelt. Guess I'll just wait until April when most of it is
composted in the lawn.


Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 01:14 PM (MIKMs)

A wet mess for sure. Our dog used to poop on the snow piles next to the carport. It was a real archeological treasure come spring. Especially the ones with tinsel mixed in from the Christmas tree...

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:30 PM (cu8/f)

46 Hi Miley!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 01:31 PM (Sfs6o)

47 The photos for the thread are always great. Love the hirses as long as I don't have to take care of them. :-)

Gardening thread and a Nationals spring training game onthe radio. Ahhhh! Life is good!

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 01:31 PM (V+03K)

48 Any tips for growing cilantro in South Florida?

They sell the plants at the local Home Depot, so someone must have good luck with them. Just not me.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:32 PM (g5YYQ)

49 The bluebirds, how precious!

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 01:32 PM (Iz8Py)

50 What zone am I in? Does it matter? I want to ignore the one from 2012, cause, well.



7a according to new 2012 map

6a according to the pre 1990 map

Posted by: Infidel at February 24, 2018 01:26 PM (a3OL0)

Different areas of your yard can be more sheltered, so it's always worth experimenting.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (cu8/f)

51
They look like draft horses, as opposed to the canned ones.

Hell no, we won't go!

Posted by: Draft dodging horses at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (IqV8l)

52
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 01:22 PM (LWu6U)

Some of the oldtimers around here cover them in the winter.

Posted by: kallisto at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (Iz8Py)

53 Weasel! Congratulations on your recent land acquisition! You'll have your own place to have rifle clinics.

I imagine you'll be a big Youtuber in the future, to rival Hickok45

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:36 PM (cu8/f)

54 Any tips for growing cilantro in South Florida?



They sell the plants at the local Home Depot, so someone must have good luck with them. Just not me.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:32 PM (g5YYQ)

Easy to grow from seed - keep sowing every 2-3 weeks. And you'll get seed for the next year. Bountiful.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:37 PM (cu8/f)

55 "Rocks and Beauty were those two horses, iirc.
They look like draft horses, as opposed to the canned ones.

Posted by:backwardsboy

ha, yes, one uncle later wondered why people would want to own horses once we have these big tractors, since he remembered they required a lot of care. "Good pullers" was a phrase I recall, not good jumpers. But I think they really liked their horses and became friends, spent a lot of time working together, dependent on each other.


Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 01:39 PM (bT8Z4)

56 34. Anyone have experience buying plants and trees from seed catalog places (like Burpee)? I've only ever bought seeds. I'm wondering if I'd be better going this route for plants and trees or a local garden place.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM (Sfs6o)

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I've had so-so luck buying live plants from catalogs. It's worth a few extra bucks to go to a local garden center so you can see what you're getting. If you're still in NoVa, we love Betty's Azalea Ranch. Merrifield Garden Center is fine, but Betty's prices seem to be better.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 24, 2018 01:39 PM (akSgU)

57 >>>Love the hirses as long as I don't have to take care of them. :-)<<<

The is nothing as mischievous, scheming and mean as a horse that doesn't work.

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 01:39 PM (bJ0w+)

58 {{{Heritage farming}}}

I love the combination of old time charm, with the convenience of running water

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:39 PM (cu8/f)

59 slugs like the cilantro

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (n13/j)

60 I mentioned last week that the chives were coming around. Well, they are officially back (I am the official). They look really good and some will be used on potatoes tomorrow. Also, the pansies and thyme are showing green under the dead stuff from last year. The lilac is full of buds and some leaves are starting to open. I have hopes for a fragrant spring this year.

We had an unusually cold winter but little snow, almost drought conditions. I'm surprised anything made it through the winter.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 01:41 PM (V+03K)

61 Years ago I used to purchase bare root bushes and trees from Gurneys. Has pretty good luck with them.

Posted by: Ronster at February 24, 2018 01:42 PM (c74nn)

62 True Story: I called the county Agricultural department once to ask for information on something. They told me that the person whose job it was to put the pamphlet into a mailing envelope wasn't there that day, so they couldn't do anything.


But I did get a useful pamphlet on xeriscaping from them.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:43 PM (g5YYQ)

63 Greetings from zone 7a. Chives are flourishing. Pansy shoots have appeared. The lilacs are covered in buds with some leafing. The rosemary that we thought was dead is now covered with what might be tiny buds.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at February 24, 2018 01:43 PM (V+03K)

64 My great grandfather had a pretty big farm down in N.C., and my father and uncles went down there in the summers to help with crops.
Later in life, my father told me one of his regrets was that he didn't take his grandfather up on the offer to take over the farm. Seems like all the children and grandchildren left the farm for jobs in town in the shipyard or went to sea!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (gwPgz)

65 slugs like the cilantro
Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (n13/j)

aaahhh. So what do I do about the slugs? Do I have to use pesticide?

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:45 PM (g5YYQ)

66
slugs like the cilantro


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (n13/j)

Slugs love the beer. Put it in shallow bowls around the plants.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:49 PM (cu8/f)

67 Miley, Thanks! I'll try that with my next cilantro plant/victim.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:52 PM (g5YYQ)

68 posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:45 PM (g5YYQ)

Louisville Slugocide works pretty well!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 01:53 PM (gwPgz)

69 Slugs love the beer. Put it in shallow bowls around the plants.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:49 PM (cu8/f)
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Was at a friend's barbeque and we all watched fascinated as a slug slo-o-o-owly crawled over to a dish full of beer.

"I will never worry about whether I'm entertaining you idiots again" he said.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 01:53 PM (qJtVm)

70 I don't have any photos but enjoy history for the colonial and early American periods, especially on the frontier. And gardening practices are definitely part of that. It isn't just old wives tales and phases of the moon. Did the pioneers have seeds or plants? How did they work the soil? What did they learn from local tribes? What did they grow for fresh eating and for preservation? How did they preserve their crops? It is fun discovering the answers.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 01:57 PM (V+03K)

71 Anyone have any experience with boysenberries? We had a patch of them when I was a kid and I always liked them. I think they are a cross between a blackberry and a loganberry. They look like extra large blackberries. I've never tried to grow them and I never seem to see them mentioned anywhere.

Posted by: Suds 46 at February 24, 2018 02:01 PM (3booC)

72 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

73 Well, the robins came the other day. Hundreds, maybe thousands of them. Like a swarm of locusts, they stripped my holly of the gazillion berries it had within an hour or two.

I'm told that when the robins first migrate north again, there are slim pickins in the way of insects, so they go after whatever is available.

Posted by: IrishEi at February 24, 2018 02:03 PM (HiDrR)

74 Eris - http://bit.ly/2FkMYra

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 02:04 PM (6FqZa)

75 1 Those strawberries look sort of odd.
Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (mIJBI)

It's the geometric logic.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:04 PM (NWiLs)

76 "I will never worry about whether I'm entertaining you idiots again" he said.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 01:53 PM (qJtVm)

LMFAO!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:05 PM (cu8/f)

77 We have had some hard frosts here as well. We used the frost protection sprinklers in the grapes and there were icicles hanging from the trellis wire.

It's been really windy and cold. I'm not sure if it's even reaching 60 during the day.

Posted by: CaliGirl at February 24, 2018 02:05 PM (Ri/rl)

78 "My great grandfather had a pretty big farm down in
N.C., ...

Later in life, my father told me one of his regrets was that he
didn't take his grandfather up on the offer to take over the farm.

Posted by: Hrothgar

yeah, I came back and bought part of the old farm and did elder care for my Mom and a few uncles, but in hindsight skipping college and farming with an uncle that basically made the offer would have been pretty awesome.

Now the concern is all the funny money trillionaires will push people off their land, and move in foreigners as laborers. Talk of selling off public lands sound reasonable, but then I wonder if it wouldn't just be globalists and maybe China buying it all up off their fake money profits. For now "working the land" is still mostly hard work, but kids tend to move to the big city lights.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 02:07 PM (bT8Z4)

79 >>>Cursed is the ground because of you

Hi Insomniac! I can always count on you to provide leavening

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:07 PM (cu8/f)

80 48 Any tips for growing cilantro in South Florida?

They sell the plants at the local Home Depot, so someone must have good luck with them. Just not me.
Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 01:32 PM (g5YYQ)

Here in South TX it's strictly a winter plant, unless you want to grow it inside during the summer.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 02:08 PM (6HFDU)

81 Parsley and cilantro will interbreed and produce a leaf that smells spicy but has no "virtue" in cookery. So some people try to plant them far apart.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 02:08 PM (H5rtT)

82 Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

And that sums up my gardening experiences.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (g5YYQ)

83 74 Eris - http://bit.ly/2FkMYra
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 02:04 PM (6FqZa)
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D'aaawwwww! Everything is cute when it's pink!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (qJtVm)

84 OT - Weasel, if you're still around, have you tried the new Sig P365? You know I'm hot for Sigs. This one looks like it would be perfect for concealed carry. Only $600. Hickok45 think it really will be a game-changer in terms of the magazine design, if they don't fail. Time will tell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n29qgsP9B-E


Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:12 PM (cu8/f)

85 79 >>>Cursed is the ground because of you

Hi Insomniac! I can always count on you to provide leavening
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:07 PM (cu8/f)

Hey Miley! That's me - leavening, but sometimes levity too.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:15 PM (NWiLs)

86 D'aaawwwww! Everything is cute when it's pink!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (qJtVm)

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:16 PM (NWiLs)

87 Here in South TX it's strictly a winter plant, unless you want to grow it inside during the summer.
Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 02:08 PM (6HFDU)

I kill 'em in both winter and summer, but they do seem to die faster in the summer.
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Parsley and cilantro will interbreed and produce a leaf that smells spicy but has no "virtue" in cookery. So some people try to plant them far apart.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 02:08 PM (H5rtT)

I've been doing everything wrong!

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:17 PM (g5YYQ)

88 As an apartment dweller I really shouldn't even be on the gardening thread, but I still love to live vicariously through the gardens of others.

When I retire my dream is to have a garden devoted to black flowers. I was inspired by Paul Bonine's book "Black Flowers".

Here are some pictures from Goth inkstress Kat von D's black flower garden:

https://tinyurl.com/y7gwhfhf

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:17 PM (qJtVm)

89 Cleaned out my garden of dead plants, no sign of my chives and Greek oregano is dead to the ground but some years thats how it is but will grow back. It has spread a lot since I put in in.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 02:25 PM (aC6Sd)

90 Apropos: https://youtu.be/SnLg4rhvCS4

Posted by: Average Guy at February 24, 2018 02:25 PM (5HEUr)

91 All Hail Eris, I live in a condo now, but I still manage to grow a few herbs on the screened porch and in a little area right outside my front door.

I'm thinking of buying a grow light to expand my horizons.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (g5YYQ)

92 I'll also need this:

https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/garden-gnomezilla/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:27 PM (qJtVm)

93 Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (g5YYQ)
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I don't even have a decent window for plants!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:29 PM (qJtVm)

94 Now that's just sad. You need to move.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:32 PM (g5YYQ)

95 Looks like I've managed to kill almost everything on the balcony this winter, through neglect.

Oh well - less to get rid of when I move.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (cu8/f)

96 Gonna dig out the big box of ancestral pictures and see if any were of actual farming - lot of farmers on my fathers side of the family, the rest were Lake Michigan fishermen.

Lot of Amish around this area who are still using the old horse-drawn implements; as spring gets going I'll ask if they mind if I take a few pictures of them in action.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 02:35 PM (H0hPC)

97 "I will never worry about whether I'm entertaining you idiots again" he said.


That was funny. And speaking of slug racing...

IIRC, the modern-day sport of tractor pulling has its roots in the days when farmers would pit their pulling horses against each other with weights on a sled. Whichever team pulled it the farthest won, just like today.

OK, I gotta go do stuff. Y'all have fun and try to behave.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy likes lobster at February 24, 2018 02:38 PM (tRaq7)

98 When I retire my dream is to have a garden devoted to black flowers.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:17 PM (qJtVm)

I highly recommend black hollyhocks. Single. Deep blood-red when viewed through sunlight.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:39 PM (cu8/f)

99 I love fresh herbs in my salads, oregano, chives, 2 types of basel, parsley

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (aC6Sd)

100 Eris, A garden of nothing but black flowers. And a gnomzilla. O.K.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (g5YYQ)

101 Skip, try adding nasturtiums to those salads. Beautiful addition, peppery flavor.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:42 PM (cu8/f)

102 I highly recommend black hollyhocks. Single. Deep blood-red when viewed through sunlight.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:39 PM (cu8/f)
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That's what started my dream years ago! I saw a combo packet of seeds for black hollyhocks, pansies, and violas and thought no way!.

And now they have all manner of black flowers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (qJtVm)

103 Borage flowers (blue, starlike) are another great flower to add to salad.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (cu8/f)

104 100 Eris, A garden of nothing but black flowers. And a gnomzilla. O.K.
Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (g5YYQ)
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And hot pink slugs!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (qJtVm)

105 53 Weasel! Congratulations on your recent land acquisition! You'll have your own place to have rifle clinics.

I imagine you'll be a big Youtuber in the future, to rival Hickok45
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 01:36 PM (cu8/f)
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Thanks Miley! Just as soon as I can get some of these damn trees mowed down for a rifle range I plan to do just that!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 02:51 PM (Sfs6o)

106 My grandmother was the last generation of Quebec farmers going back to the 1630s. I wish I had asked her about it but there is no one left to ask. All I know is they grew buckwheat.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 02:51 PM (V+03K)

107 Pet thread is up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:55 PM (qJtVm)

108 And hot pink slugs!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (qJtVm)

I spent a long time bedridden and my elderly Aunt would sometimes call and entertain me by telling me stories about her childhood and extended family. Some amazing stories that otherwise would have died with her.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:57 PM (g5YYQ)

109 Miley!! Another Hickok45 fan! His videos and Duelist 1954 for black powder are my favorites.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 02:57 PM (V+03K)

110 Oops I meant to respond to JTB.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:58 PM (g5YYQ)

111 Where is the section about growing Hungarian paprika at home, or items that can be fermented and turned into booze? For Hungarians, this includes rocks.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:03 PM (zCyNd)

112 nasturtiums have to look that up, no idea what it is

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:06 PM (aC6Sd)

113 STRAWBERRIES: I planted a patch of Tribute STRAWBERRIES in Spring of 2017. They were very productive all summer and fall, but not very large. I lost more than half of them to rot and bugs, but still had enough to have a few berries with my yogurt each day. I covered the patch in pine needles this winter. We're going through a warm spell now and the plants are starting to grow through the straw. I hope that's not a problem because more freezes are coming.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at February 24, 2018 03:07 PM (cEKqm)

114 I do like pepper taste, my favorite wine is Petite Syrah which has a peppery after taste

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:09 PM (aC6Sd)

115 Miley!! Another Hickok45 fan! His videos and Duelist 1954 for black powder are my favorites.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 02:57 PM (V+03K)

I love that guy - I'd love to meet him!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 03:23 PM (cu8/f)

116 Mother Nature did indeed have a sucker-punch ready for Idaho's Treasure Valley (Boise area)... I've made a note on my gardening calendar, not to be fooled by early Feb. thaws, ever again! (I have an old calendar that I write garden notes on - things like when to fertilize strawberries, and when to expect bulb sprouts, that sort of stuff.)

The sucker-punch arrived in the form of some small hail last Sunday at dusk - a low of +6 F between Monday and Tuesday - the inch of snow I found outside on Thursday morning - and the snow that started falling this morning (1 to 3 inches predicted).

Birds - of course I'm keeping the seed feeder stocked while Winter remains. I've seen the flicker there several times; I'll have to download my camera and see if the photos came out, from the one time I managed to get a camera on him. Today, I think I've identified a male House Finch - and there are apparently multiple types of streaked sparrows, so I haven't ID'd the species, but I see those often - it's possible some of the birds with neat wing bars and some yellow to them are vireos, but I'm not sure - the Dark-Eyed Juncoes (Oregon type) tend to stay on the ground with the Mourning Doves.

We've continued to hear the Great Horned Owl at dusk, which has surprised me. These must be territorial calls, since they normally mate by the end of the year and should have chicks by now (if I remember rightly).

Our California Quail will probably not come around as often, now that the quail block is gone. We'll probably still see them from time to time - they like using the red raspberry patch as cover.

Bulbs - the first snow did blow in close to the back of my house and covered the hyacinths, but it melted off and they took no damage. They're close enough to the back of the house that I'm pretty sure they'll be OK even if more snow hits there. The bulbs out front, and the other bulbs in back, weren't that far sprouted, so they should be OK too.

My poor strawberries, though....... I'm still worried that I've killed them by uncovering them during our 60 degree weather. Nothing to be done now, but see what happens when spring does come. Husband reassures me that we can buy more locally, but that's still money that didn't need to be spent. Live and learn... That's really all of gardening/farming, isn't it? - live and learn.

Oh, my own experience with buying plants from a national catalog. We bought bare-root strawberries from Park. They sent them in March. We thought they knew what they were doing, so we planted them. They froze and died. (We replaced them from what Home Depot sells.) So I would suggest only buying from a national catalog that is based in a similar climate to where you live.

Posted by: Pat* at February 24, 2018 03:33 PM (FtfVi)

117 On the woodpeckers at the seed feeder front, all fall and winter we had small, medium, and large birds: a downy, a ladderback, and a golden-fronted.

After years of condo living with only container gardening, we are finishing our first year of having an actual yard and garden. Thanks to the gardening thread for all of the inspiration and ideas. We'll see how well our off season maintenance works out soon. (Forsythia, japonica, and early fruit trees are blooming here in central Texas.)

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (S+f+m)

118 I've been doing everything wrong!

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 02:17 PM (g5YYQ)

Join the club. Oh, you just mean gardening? Never mind.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 03:37 PM (NWiLs)

119 I know your Weasel acres is VA but blackberries especially need to be controlled. Goats work well on them. They will take over the world if you let them. Western WA is over run in places by them. Great berries but the thorns make a good substitute for barbed wire.

Posted by: Winston at February 24, 2018 03:52 PM (wgCUV)

120 Anyone have experience buying plants and trees from seed catalog places (like Burpee)? I've only ever bought seeds. I'm wondering if I'd be better going this route for plants and trees or a local garden place.

Posted by: Weasel at February

I've bought plants from Home Depot, but ya gotta watch for the sales.

If there's a nursery nearby... check 'em out.

Last year I bought my plants at a flea market, and I'll go back there this year.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 03:53 PM (B4vfZ)

121 Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return.

Posted by: Insomniac


LINKYPOO !

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 03:54 PM (B4vfZ)

122 I do like pepper taste, my favorite wine is Petite Syrah which has a peppery after taste

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:09 PM (aC6Sd)

I've got a Petite Syrah in the cupboard. Thanks for the reminder! Gonna crack that open tonight.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 03:55 PM (cu8/f)

123 Strawberries are tough. They can handle a false spring. The reason that grocery strawberries dont taste like what you remember is that they are bred to look pretty and travel well. There is a variety that one vendor at our farmer's market has--just amazing flavor. They don't look good compared to the store bought, but even the ugly ones taste amazing. Stupid me forgot to set some aside for seed last fall but I won't forget this year.

Posted by: Gordon at February 24, 2018 03:56 PM (p0NYI)

124 I live over a double garage that sits behind the house.
There's a long driveway to get back here with a little strip of dirt between the blacktop and the neighbor's fence.
I've lived here for 27 years.

One year I'd bought some strawberry seeds through the mail with the idea of planting strawberries all along the driveway.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:07 PM (B4vfZ)

125 119 See Weasel, another vote you need goats

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:19 PM (aC6Sd)

126 The seeds came. I went out to the driveway, opened the package.....

and the SMALLEST ! plastic bag was in there with the TINIEST seeds I'd ever seen.

I had paid Ten Bucks for the seeds.

So, okay, I'm gonna plant ,I'm sitting on the ground, I've got all the seeds in the palm of my hand......and I'm concentrating......trying to figure out how I'm gonna separate these TINY seeds.... and here comes a GIANT BEE flying around my head....and I'm triyng to swat at him
with my non-seed hand .....and long story short(er) ALL of the seeds went to ONE spot on the ground.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:21 PM (B4vfZ)

127 So slugs like beer & cilantro but can't discriminate? Feed them bud lite and lady bugs.that should fuck em both up.

Cilantro is fer shit the worst "ERB " er HERB

Posted by: saf at February 24, 2018 04:25 PM (cS/ge)

128 So, I've had the GIANT strawberry plant for a number of years now.

I've gotten quite a few strawberries over the years.

It all depends on the rabbits.

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:33 PM (B4vfZ)

129 127 - I get ya, one of those Cilantro haters. Tastes like soap right? I love Cilantro, but I know about the haters, and they really really hate it! They say there is a scientific reason for that.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 04:35 PM (n13/j)

130 I'm thinking of buying a grow light to expand my horizons.

Posted by: girldog at


Don't fall asleep under it.

Remember the movie "Attack of the 50 Foot Woman" ?

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:43 PM (B4vfZ)

131 aaahhh. So what do I do about the slugs? Do I have to use pesticide?

Can't you just salt them ?

Think of the Wicked Witch at the end of the movie when they threw water on her( I can't think of the name )

"AAAAAAhhhhhhh I'm MELTING ! Oh what a world"

Posted by: JT at February 24, 2018 04:52 PM (B4vfZ)

132 Salt around what you want to save

Chess Dress Nood

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:56 PM (aC6Sd)

133 >>> the SMALLEST ! plastic bag was in there with the TINIEST seeds I'd ever seen.

JT. a tip from a friend who ran a nursery - you can mix those seeds with fine sand. Helps to spread over a wider range.

She used the sand to tamp over flats that she was using for cuttings as well. Helps to keep moisture in.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at February 24, 2018 05:05 PM (cu8/f)

134 Put out bird-feeders for the first time about three weeks ago. We already had birds visit our waterbath, so natives would come by regularly. But the food brought things to a whole 'nother level. Now they come by like clockwork:

White-Winged Doves
Blue Jays
Cardinals
Cow Birds
House (or possibly Purple) Finches
Carolina Chickadees
Tufted Titmouse
Pine Siskins
Dark-eyed Juncoes
Sparrows (can't really tell what species)
Red-Shouldered Hawks
An occasional Red-Bellied Woodpecker
Mockingbirds

And after the rain, Robins and Crows.

And Squirrels to keep it all chaotic.

Certain times it's busier than an airport.

It's nice to escape TV and the news to glance out at the circus. The different personalities are fascinating.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 24, 2018 07:16 PM (H8S+R)

135 girldog: "aaahhh. So what do I do about the slugs? Do I have to use pesticide?"

Sluggo (Iron Phosphate)
Sluggo Plus (Iron Phosphate and Spinosad)

Iron Phosphate is for the slugs, Spinosad for various other nuisance pests. They're OMNI listed, so they're safe for gardens, pets, and organic programs.

It does work and it's easy to disperse, moreso than beer traps, diatomaceous earth.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 24, 2018 07:37 PM (H8S+R)

Thread before the Gardening Thread: Musings on Migration from a Hungarian [KT]

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

howhungarian.jpg

How well do you know Hungarian

Earlier this month, a German human rights activist admitted that Muslim refugees have no intention of adopting our values. Said it out loud.

Writing in The Brussels Journal, George Handlery (a Hungarian educated in the USA, now living in Switzerland) weighs in on migration into Europe as a more general topic. The whole piece is worth reading, but here are a few highlights. Okay, so the English is slightly awkward sometimes. How is your Hungarian?:

Let us begin with the problem's origins and magnitude. From there we go to meeting this modern version of the "migration of peoples" that had toppled Greco-Roman civilization. This hesitantly made analogy is anathema in influential circles: They insist upon problem solving within their ideology's confines. Thus, the Old World is as helpless to cope, as was the Roman Empire before 476.

Opposition to migration is growing in Europe:

A recent example comes from Hungary. (Like her neighbors, in 500 years they have not managed to integrate their resistant Gypsies. Unless, of course, renaming them "Roma" passes as a solution.) After calling the EU as solid as "Swiss cheese", the government sent an inquiry to its citizens to discover what they want.

The preamble: "There are those according to whom, Brussels' policy on immigration and terrorism has failed and that this demands new approaches. Are you in agreement with the statements below? "

A shortened sample of some of the questions: "Would you support it if, contrary to Brussels' permissive policy, the government introduces more restrictive regulations?"

"Do you agree that after the least possible delay, illegal border crossers need to be repatriated?"

As a side note, a Gypsy family has been hanging out periodically at a McDonalds not far from us, begging, in the last couple of months. My mother had a Gypsy family living across the street from her a few years ago. Their habits were . . . distinctive. Have you ever met a Gypsy in America? Back to the final recommendation in Handlery's post:

There are some very simple ways of stopping this. Ship everyone straight back where they came from. No passport holder of ANY country that refuses to take back their citizens will be permitted to enter Europe for any reason.. That may well be too draconian for the delicate stomachs of our ruling elite, so go about it in a more gentle way. Since every country that sends these hordes also receives substantial aid from most EU countries continue with the aid but deduct the cost their illegal citizens occur, be that housing, welfare, health care or education, tote it all up and consider it aid. Those countries will be slamming shut their border so fast you'll be able to hear the slam in Europe..

Think that would work? Might it be adapted in some way to the USA?

Here's a famous, partially-assimilated European Gypsy, at least a fantasy Gypsy.

Django Reinhardt was a Gypsy. He seemed to assimilate pretty well.

Have a great weekend.

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1 whee!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:22 AM (oVJmc)

2 Ha

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:22 AM (89T5c)

3 I'll get them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:23 AM (89T5c)

4 Looking at the new sidebar thing about the shooting, it seems when the scatology hit the oscillating unit everyone except Broward County Sheriff's Department deputies did their utmost for the kids.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 11:24 AM (bxLgY)

5 What about Gypsy Rose Lee?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:24 AM (oVJmc)

6 Ooh,and I read the dang content. Rookie move.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (5O7DN)

7 Looking at the new sidebar thing about the shooting, it seems when the
scatology hit the oscillating unit everyone except Broward County
Sheriff's Department deputies did their utmost for the kids.


Broward = Shithole

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (oVJmc)

8 Opposition to migration is growing in Europe:

Well, that certainly is promising news.

Posted by: The Band on the Titanic at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (Tyii7)

9 I was hoping for a discussion of the Golden Bull.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 11:26 AM (2K6fY)

10 10th

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (uw8GV)

11 Hungary is nice. Planning an anniversary trip to Budapest coming up...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (5O7DN)

12 Hey, this is a fellow moron, Ace put it in sidebar. We have to support our own.

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (Yu4ah)

13 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-43174862

Posted by: Dumpsterjuice at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (Yu4ah)

14 I peeped the sidebar link which went to Brian Kilmeade roasting that asshole Bill Kristol. He's turned into such a dickhead or maybe he always ways.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 11:28 AM (uw8GV)

15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.

Muslims have - the Caliphate.

Is it any surprise the people running the EU want to bring in more Muslims?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (Z8FFX)

16 The gypsies in the Houston area were mostly into roofing / home repair scams with senior citizens. They have for the most part moved on as they are apt to do.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

17 Meanwhile in Germany, Frau Merkel is still trying to form a government. Five months after elections that saw many Germans revolt and vote for the AfD party.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 11:30 AM (bxLgY)

18 Damn read it.

Posted by: Shitstorm at February 24, 2018 11:30 AM (70cRb)

19 My visit to Hungary and Austria was all too brief.
I would love to go back. Money - wise, it's not too bad, but I know zero Hungarian. Or German.
But I absolutely loved the people, the music, the food.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:31 AM (w7KSn)

20 I thought "gypsy" was unPC? Aren't they "travelers" now?

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:32 AM (O5Q3r)

21 Sleepy Jeff could get a good investigation going into Broward defrauding the federal government for grant money. Think he will?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:33 AM (oVJmc)

22 We were in Austria and Hungary over Christmas and absolutely gorgeous, great food and people. And not many Muslims if any.

Posted by: IC at February 24, 2018 11:33 AM (gcme+)

23 Delta and United announced ties cut with NRA.

CNN is crowing this loudly from their website, and the drumbeat is getting louder.

They are winning this one.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (5OEn4)

24
I thought "gypsy" was unPC? Aren't they "travelers" now?
Posted by: tu3031


The Travelling Romaburys

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (IqV8l)

25 My visit to Hungary and Austria was all too brief.

Especially with that really long plane flight in the middle. Perhaps next time you should pick two countries next to each other. Of course, it helps that one of them speaks English and has bloomin' onions.

Posted by: Barack Obama, chillin' in the hood at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (LAe3v)

26 All through the caravan, I was boinking all the men.

Posted by: Sandra Flook, Gypsy Woman at February 24, 2018 11:35 AM (Tyii7)

27 This hesitantly made analogy is anathema in influential circles
---
Hence the influential circles need to go.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 11:35 AM (XQvuQ)

28 We did the Danube cruise, Budapest to Nuremberg.
Fantastic. All of it.
I gained a pound a day.
Took me twice as long to shed it.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:36 AM (w7KSn)

29 They are winning this one.





Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (5OEn4)

This week.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (Dbv1R)

30 16 The gypsies in the Houston area were mostly into roofing / home repair scams with senior citizens. They have for the most part moved on as they are apt to do.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (2DOZq)

Yep. Driveway pavers a couple of years ago around here, I suspect it's near about time for them to show up again.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (EcEWt)

31 Back when I was a kid, a band of gypsies would come into town every spring for about a week. The town mothers would not let their kids roam any farther than the immediate neighbors house. The gypsies were not nice people.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (Fs5vw)

32 Sleepy Jeff could get a good investigation going into Broward defrauding the federal government for grant money. Think he will?
***
Is that going to help him with whatever the deep state is blackmailing him over?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 11:38 AM (Z8FFX)

33 I saw Stephane Grappelli live once. Lucky me. I think he was in his 80s.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:38 AM (sdi6R)

34 Esmeralda was hot though.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (EcEWt)

35 The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)

36 Take it, Cher....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOSZwEwl_1Q

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (O5Q3r)

37 Yep. Driveway pavers a couple of years ago around here, I suspect it's near about time for them to show up again.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:37 AM (EcEWt)

Seems to me the way to deal with those conmen would be to burn their trucks to the ground. No truck, no con.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (Dbv1R)

38 Delta and United announced ties cut with NRA.



CNN is crowing this loudly from their website, and the drumbeat is getting louder.



They are winning this one.
---
Eh, I don't need to fly unpatriotic airlines.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (XQvuQ)

39 They are winning this one.


Well, we'd better just pack it in and call it a day.

Posted by: Defenders of Freedom at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (Tyii7)

40 I peeped the sidebar link which went to Brian Kilmeade roasting that asshole Bill Kristol. He's turned into such a dickhead or maybe he always ways.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 11:28 AM (uw8GV)



Now that Trump's flushing these so-called conservatives out of the brush,

I suspect that most of them like Bill Kristol were always liberals but didn't have the ability or mad skillz to make it in the Libtard Big Time MSM,

so they became Pet Conservatives for liberal outlets.

They could be ineffective and ineffectual mouthpieces for ineffective Republican/conservative initiatives and yet,

still attend all those dishy Washington/New York parties.

Trump blew up all that by actually wanting to do the right thing by Americans and the Middle Class.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 11:41 AM (9q7Dl)

41 My high school had kids from damn near every European ethnic group - Italians, Germans, Greeks, Macedonians (Jeebus dont confuse those two), Spanish, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Serbian, Slavs, Romanian and a few Im sure Ive forgotten. And it was glorious - no real trouble and the food and drink and celebrations we were exposed to!! Plenty of non-English speaking Yai yais and Papas but all working toward being a productive American.

Wow. I really miss it.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 11:41 AM (tr2D7)

42 How well do you know Hungarian?

I looked at the first question and closed the tab.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:42 AM (sdi6R)

43 They are whining this one.

NRA members also have options when it comes to spending their money.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 24, 2018 11:42 AM (2NqXo)

44 My grandfather graduated NYU a very long time ago, and before he began his career as a teacher, traveled to Hungary and lived there for almost two years as a single man, to experience a different culture.

He'd had Latin in school and had learned German. In Hungary, he gained fluency in the language, and his Latin and German was no help at all, because Hungarian is derived from something else entirely.

Gramps was an avid photographer, and a chemist, so did all his own developing and printing. I have a box of his glass negatives from when he was in Europe. The scenes are quote pastoral.

He subscribed to two newspapers his whole life, one German, the other Hungarian, just to keep up with the languages.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:42 AM (5OEn4)

45
How well do you know Hungarian?
---
Well, I know I'm having lunch in about an hour.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 11:43 AM (XQvuQ)

46 23 Delta and United announced ties cut with NRA.

CNN is crowing this loudly from their website, and the drumbeat is getting louder.

They are winning this one.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (5OEn4)

Hand wringing :

[X] Noted

[ ] Not Noted

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:43 AM (EcEWt)

47 28 We did the Danube cruise, Budapest to Nuremberg.
Fantastic. All of it.
I gained a pound a day.
Took me twice as long to shed it.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:36 AM (w7KSn)

Who did you cruise with? We are planning for one, They look fantastic, and I like that you don't have to unpack.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (dKiJG)

48 35 The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.


Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)


THIS!!

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (Fs5vw)

49 How well do you know Hungarian?

I'd like to get to know that first one better.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (sdi6R)

50 41 My high school had kids from damn near every European ethnic group - Italians, Germans, Greeks, Macedonians (Jeebus dont confuse those two), Spanish, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Serbian, Slavs, Romanian and a few Im sure Ive forgotten. And it was glorious - no real trouble and the food and drink and celebrations we were exposed to!! Plenty of non-English speaking Yai yais and Papas but all working toward being a productive American.

Wow. I really miss it.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 11:41 AM (tr2D7)
----
But it would be described today as an "all white" monoculture -- not diverse at all.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (qJtVm)

51 I'm so sick and tired of the politics of shopping. Honestly I wish companies would just lower their prices instead of donating to this or that organization so I don't have to keep track of who's donating to Planned Barrenhood and other crap that I don't want to support. And I HATE that SJW's can still intimidate companies/politicians with their slimy accustations.

Posted by: Iris at February 24, 2018 11:44 AM (kdgv3)

52 My headmaster was Hungarian-a concert pianist. He was part of the 1956 revolution, and loathed Communists. Our school was a classical European preparatory school, and his influence in the evils of Communism was pervasive.

Sadly, after he retired, the Board brought in multi culti global types, and though the school is now in a ritzy neighborhood (during my time it wasn't) with bells and whistles for the bells and whistles, I don't think the education is as rock solid. They haven't had a National Merit Scholar in many years, and there were six in my graduating class. Anecdotal, but I think telling in the pedagogy.

Posted by: moki at February 24, 2018 11:45 AM (V+V48)

53 he NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.





Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (oVJmc)





THIS!!

They've probably made made more in new memberships and renewals in the last week then this will ever cost them.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (O5Q3r)

54 IIRC there's a town in South Carolina that's nothing but Gypsy's.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w+Jhj)

55 "Who did you cruise with? "

Avalon. On the Panorama.
Luxurious, to say the least.
We got a deal because I was a guest lecturer. Half off.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w7KSn)

56 Sleepy Jeff could get a good investigation going into Broward defrauding the federal government for grant money. Think he will?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles
=========================


Sessions could drive a stake through the heart of Dem voting/political corruption in Broward county.
But no.

Posted by: Willard at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (eSAWM)

57 The pics of Trudeau in India are hilarious. I can't even think of it in terms of "what a stupid liberal", it's just escapist comedy. Although he seems to have a nice family and it's a shame he dragged them into it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

58 He'd had Latin in school and had learned German. In Hungary, he gained
fluency in the language, and his Latin and German was no help at all,
because Hungarian is derived from something else entirely.

So it's like Austria?

Posted by: Ex President Cock Curious at February 24, 2018 11:47 AM (O5Q3r)

59 "He was part of the 1956 revolution, and loathed Communists."

That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:49 AM (w7KSn)

60 Jordan Petersen had an interesting (as usual) observation from Clinical Psychology in one of his videos.

It seems there is a very strong correlation with Conservative values, and areas that have diseases being imported from outside the area.

That strong borders, and defending your own culture becomes dominant thoughts when that outsider, could literally kill you just from his presence.

Note, Diseases that we had wiped out in the US, are back... we are committing cultural suicide by NOT defending our own culture... and celebrating the very reason everyone wants to come here in the first place.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:52 AM (NgKpN)

61 Gypsy woman told my mother before I was born, I got a boy-child coming. Gonna be a son of a gun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (xJa6I)

62 It's really sad to see collegial Jeffie Sessionzzz get all this hate. It seemed pretty obvious to me that decades in the Senate (and thus DC) is probably enough to get you into the "My Friends" mindset, so I never expected any promised swamp draining to affect the "important" people.

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (gwPgz)

63 *looks around for Heidi*
O:O
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0

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (70cRb)

64 55 "Who did you cruise with? "

Avalon. On the Panorama.
Luxurious, to say the least.
We got a deal because I was a guest lecturer. Half off.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w7KSn)

We are looking into doing a Family one, I think it's Viking. Our son is only 5 but it we are looking at booking 2 years out, so he will be seven and maybe old enough to learn and enjoy it.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (dKiJG)

65 @15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.
--------------------

Arguably, the Roman Empire was this. The Romans would conquer another group of people, and then the members of the newly conquered group would have the opportunity to become Roman citizens.

Where it all started to fall apart was when the barbarians started letting themselves across the border, invariably cut a deal that involved themselves becoming nominal Roman subjects, and then didn't integrate (which was fine with the Romans at the time, since they saw the barbarians as buffers against the other nomadic groups - particularly that one led by some guy named Attila...).

Since then?

No.

And I would argue that Islam has also not had a successful multi-ethnic empire. Yes, they've had empires that ruled over multiple ethnicities. But so did the Austrians. Adherents of Islam - at least in the Middle East - appear to be very conscious of the ethnicity of others, particularly if the one being conscious is Arab.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (TadoT)

66 Holy crap. I took the Hungarian test and got 92% "Are you a native Hungarian?".

I only got two wrong. How I managed that I'll never know.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (sdi6R)

67 I'm hoping this is a multiple choice exam.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (ks6bw)

68 Since I'll be at work for the Pet Thread

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydx9a2ab

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (bxLgY)

69 That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:49 AM (w7KSn)


Some thing I experienced in Kiev, Ukraine. Much of is still very Soviet, but most (at the time I visited anyway) were extremely anti Russian.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (Fs5vw)

70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

71 39 They are winning this one.


Well, we'd better just pack it in and call it a day.
Posted by: Defenders of Freedom at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM (Tyii7)

Yeah... going to be an early night...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (NgKpN)

72 I'll be honest, I don't know many Hungarians. Steven Brust, the author, comes closest for me.

The Hungarian strippers I've met were nice, not as dusky as Romanians.

I'm a big fan of Hungarian or American goulash. And I'm a fan of any nation with the self respect to tell the EU to Fuck off.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (xJa6I)

73 Just don't ask me to pronounce any of those words.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (sdi6R)

74 My parents honeymoooned in Austria & I'm pretty sure they pissed off a Gypsy & she put a curse on them. It would explain a lot about our lives.

Posted by: josephistan at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (ANIFC)

75 Without Hungarians, where would we get our paprika?

On the NRA topic - I don't know if these companies actually contribute to the NRA or just offer discounts of some sort to members. I'd agree that on a net cash basis, the NRA has probably not suffered significantly (if at all) from these companies showing their corporate asses.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:56 AM (Sfs6o)

76 15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.

Muslims have - the Caliphate.

Is it any surprise the people running the EU want to bring in more Muslims?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 11:29 AM (Z8FFX)

Well Tito managed, but it wasn't pretty and it didn't out-live him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:56 AM (xJa6I)

77 IIRC there's a town in South Carolina that's nothing but Gypsy's.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at February 24, 2018 11:46 AM (w+Jhj)

There's a large group in the Aiken area.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (0+nbW)

78 70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

Hey Bob.

Mine has the Glock 19 grip.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

79 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'


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In the county, the savage county the lion sleeps tonight
In the county, the savage county the lion sleeps tonight
A runaway a runaway a runaway a runaway
Ah eeeeeeeeeee ee ee a ee bang bang kaboom
Ah eeeeeeeeeee ee ee a ee bang bang kaboom

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

80 In Budapest we stayed at the Gellert.
The hotel itself is in a sort of state of delightful decay, could use some renovation (I imagine it would cost a fortune) but what a history, going back to Roman times where it was a thermal bath. It still has a huge indoor heated pool, and we swam in it for an hour.
It was like going back to 1950.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (w7KSn)

81 CNN, United, etc are probably doing more for NRAs membership and funding than any offer for a potential 5% discount ever did.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (ks6bw)

82 Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (TadoT)

Hmmm... actually... what about Britain in the Empire period?

They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...

It wasn't until they became wimps about their own culture... that it fell apart IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (NgKpN)

83 A few in Europe starting to wake up? About ten years too late.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (roQNm)

84 78 70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

Hey Bob.

Mine has the Glock 19 grip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

Thanks. Thats the smaller but takes all mags I believe. that the one i want. I'd rather hold it in a store but looks like online is the only way to find one here in Phoenix. Great deals to.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (70cRb)

85 79 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

/sheds the skin he is hiding under...

Pulls his gun....

Posted by: The Wolf in Sheeps Clothing... at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (NgKpN)

86 I want to see Budapest in the worst way.

I'd also love to do one of those Danube cruises. Maybe in a couple years if I can get a good job again and can convince the wife. She'd rather see Australia, apparently.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (xJa6I)

87 It's a shame about the Christmas Markets now, all the videos I have watched all comment about how the entrances all have truck barriers and Police with machine guns walking around.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (dKiJG)

88 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

Not Hungarian, but the same ethos.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (aS7LQ)

89 84 78 70 Hey Mark. What grip did you get with the 2000? Classic has them for 399.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 11:55 AM (70cRb)

Hey Bob.

Mine has the Glock 19 grip.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 11:57 AM (xJa6I)

Thanks. Thats the smaller but takes all mags I believe. that the one i want. I'd rather hold it in a store but looks like online is the only way to find one here in Phoenix. Great deals to.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 12:00 PM (70cRb)

I've used Classic Firearms a few times. They're pretty reliable.

I hope you get yours soon, I want to hear your opinion on it.

I think I'll take my Sub-2000 to the range today, now that I'm thinking about it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (xJa6I)

90
The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:39 AM



I'm not an NRA member, but thank you Mr. Peebles for answering the question I was going to ask - how exactly were all these corporations "supporting" the NRA? And the answer is discounts given to NRA members? That's it? Whoop-de-doo.

Posted by: Hands at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (EzdLW)

91 Django Reinhardt nearly lost his life when the caravan he and his wife lived in caught fire when he knocked over a candle on his way to bed. His wife made artificial flowers from extremely flammable celluloid. They caught fire, engulfing the wagon in flames almost immediately. Reinhardt dragged himself and his wife through the fire to safety, but suffered extensive burns on his left hand and other areas. He received first- and second-degree burns over half his body. His right leg was paralyzed, and the fourth and fifth fingers of his left hand were badly burned. Doctors believed that he would never play guitar again, and they intended to amputate one of his legs. Reinhardt refused to have the surgery and left the hospital after a short time; he was able to walk within a year with the aid of a cane.

Two of his fingers remained paralyzed. By sheer will, he taught himself to overcome his now permanent handicap by using only his thumb and two fingers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (+y/Ru)

92 @59 That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.
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I've got two board games that deal with the struggle against Communism in Eastern Europe. The first is called '1989' (it's a sort of sequel to Twilight Struggle, if anyone here has played that game). It focuses on 1989, which is the year that the pro-Soviet governments collapsed in EVERY single one of the Eastern European nations (it was also the year of the Tianenmen Square demonstrations, which also get a nod). It's a two player game - democrats versus communists (the thing is that while the governments are going to fall, the replacement government might be dominated by the communists-in-all-but-name).

The other game is called "Days of Ire", and is about the 1956 Hungarian Uprising. I haven't played this one yet, but it's a game for up to four people - either a cooperative game, or a multiple Hungarian players versus Comrade Zhukov. Note, though, that the game ends with the historical agreement between the Hungarian demonstrators and the Soviets... that was then promptly broken just a few days later when the Soviets invaded.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:03 PM (TadoT)

93 I've used Classic Firearms a few times. They're pretty reliable.

I hope you get yours soon, I want to hear your opinion on it.

I think I'll take my Sub-2000 to the range today, now that I'm thinking about it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:02 PM (xJa6I)

I think today is the day. Have fun.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at February 24, 2018 12:04 PM (70cRb)

94 If you define a Caliphate as someone who has managed to control Cairo, Damascus, and Baghdad; such entities oft times do not outlast the guy who conquered them.

Whereas Western and Chinese empires have managed to last for quite awhile in most cases. Alexander the Great being one that didn't, though the three successor states did survive for quite awhile.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:04 PM (bxLgY)

95 Gypsy experience involves a group of gypsies that used to "shop" at the Christian bookstore managed by my husband. One of the gypsies became a Christian, so she talked her fellow gypsies into not shoplifting at the store.

They still shoplifted at another Christian bookstore in a nearby town, owned by the same family. They didn't like the manager there.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:04 PM (g5YYQ)

96 A few in Europe starting to wake up? About ten years too late.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse

Just my stupid opinion.

It's too late. And it was too late 10 years ago. I can remember thinking that in 2008, the last time I was in Paris (on business).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (S6Pax)

97 @75 I've been an NRA life member for over 25 years, and aside from one car rental deal, I either never heard of or never cared to look up any of those other so-called "corporate allegiances." I'm pretty sure that the "sponsoring" companies seek them out, not the NRA. So that tells you something.

United? Delta? You must be joking. Does anyone not on the company's travel account ever board their aircraft?

The Chubb Group declaraion may be a thing, though. NRA-affiliated insurance for "private" club ranges is kind of a big deal.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (H5rtT)

98
They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...
It wasn't until they became wimps about their own culture... that it fell apart IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (NgKpN)


Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)

99 I don't know if these companies actually contribute to the NRA or just offer discounts of some sort to members.

It doesn't look like they actually contribute anything. They benefited from the association by attracting NRA members with the discount, and the NRA attracted members with being able to offer discounts as a benefit. I think it won't hurt the NRA at all to do away with all member discount programs. That's not what their core membership is about, and I think this demonstrates remarkably well why the NRA exists to begin with. The actions of these companies work pretty well as a de facto membership drive. Hell, I'm considering becoming a lifetime member just to spite the SJW teens.

Posted by: no good deed at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (eIQHF)

100 The NRA does not get its political power fro $ contributions which they use to contribute to politicians which support the second amendment. They get their power from the raw number of members.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (mpXpK)

101 It's fascinating watching the (D)s trying to explain why it is totes okay for the police to cower in the parking lot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (ks6bw)

102 @82 Hmmm... actually... what about Britain in the Empire period?

They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...
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Forgot about them. I think you have a point.

But... "COLONIALISM!!1!", they shrieked in horror!

So the elite looking for examples as described in the original post would probably ignore them.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:07 PM (TadoT)

103 Magyar (Hungarian) is a Uralic language. Say, where is Miklos?

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 12:08 PM (2K6fY)

104 Syria sneezed on Europe. Merkel licked it up instead of wiping it off, and now she wants to French kiss Hungary.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (/qEW2)

105 Got 75% on the Hungarian quiz.

Posted by: Emmie -- please, no public display of insanity at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (/A+Cl)

106 We were warned about Gypsies by our Guide/Translator she was excellent she gave my wife something that would make a crunching sound if someone was reaching in to her purse. Also restaurants they would send kids to beg for money, the waiter usually kicked them out, because when one kid was getting money another would try and steal.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (dKiJG)

107 That is what I love about Hungary, they have no love for communism, and Soros is a wanted man there.
You can still see vestigial remnants of the Soviet influence there, I'm glad they leave them standing so you may witness what a pathetic, vacant ideology the whole thing is.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 11:49 AM (w7KSn)


Only shoplifting half the stores you enter is pretty Christian.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (Fs5vw)

108 Well, that was easy.

Just renewed my NRA membership.


And Enterprise, and Delta can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 12:10 PM (EyPfd)

109 Atilla himself tried to raid Rome and almost married a Roman princess offered to him as a gesture of peace.
That is a hell of a story.
Before I cruised the Danube, I had a mental picture of it as being somewhat placid. That couldn't be further from the truth. The Danube was a force of nature separating the Roman empire from the barbarians for centuries. Only a fool would a attempt a crossing. The swift currents would have you on your way to the Black Sea in no time. Floods would consume entire towns.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:10 PM (w7KSn)

110
@15 One point to consider, Western Europeans have never managed to form a unified, multi-ethnic authoritarian state.

The Roman Catholic Church is on line two and would like to have a word.
Some found it more glorious than others, as things worked out.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 12:10 PM (H5rtT)

111 >>>Magyar (Hungarian) is a Uralic language. Say, where is Miklos?

Where's publius? He's had some odd problems with gypsies.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 12:12 PM (/qEW2)

112 I don't think the education is as rock solid. They
haven't had a National Merit Scholar in many years, and there were six
in my graduating class. Anecdotal, but I think telling in the pedagogy. Posted by: moki at February 24, 2018 11:45 AM (V+V4
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My experience as well. Eldest kidlet had international students and at least four with 'perfect' ACT scores. 10% of elementary school teachers had PhDs. By the time youngest kidlet came around, they were full-bore 'social' nonsense and had none. Just a confluence of time and opportunity, I guess. After all, the soft bigotry is more pervasive than we think.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 12:12 PM (MIKMs)

113 Is it gauche to put corn in the goulash?

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (bJ0w+)

114 Oh Bibliophiles:

Georgian and Victorian Board Games: The Liman Collection as listed on Amazon: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yacj8t72

What some of the boards look like:
http://www.ufunk.net/en/insolite/liman-collection-jeux-de-societe-vintage/

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (bxLgY)

115 Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)


The post WW II United Nations concept of the "noble savage" didn't help!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (gwPgz)

116 @109 You are sure right. Traditional historians in yon olden times dated the "fall" of Roman imperial power to the year in which several whole tribes crossed the Danube into Roman territory. It was right around 500, and everyone around thought it quite a feat and a very big deal.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (H5rtT)

117 It's just like that old gypsy woman said!

Posted by: Cheryl Tunt at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (NWiLs)

118 88 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

Not Hungarian, but the same ethos.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:01 PM (aS7LQ)


Funny how that article says they are subject to discrimination, without mentioning the notorious scams they run which make normal people very wary of them.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:14 PM (sdi6R)

119 113 Is it gauche to put corn in the goulash?
Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (bJ0w+)

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Just don't pair it with Grenache

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 24, 2018 12:14 PM (9SkN+)

120 Does anyone here have specific experience with Gun Owners of America (GOA)? They seem to have a fairly active lobbying component. I send them money because they have 'gun' in their name.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

121 "Is it gauche to put corn in the goulash? "


Nope.

One of the recognized ways to put corn in your turds.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (EyPfd)

122 57 The pics of Trudeau in India are hilarious. I can't even think of it in terms of "what a stupid liberal", it's just escapist comedy. Although he seems to have a nice family and it's a shame he dragged them into it.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 11:47 AM (/qEW2)

He's such a twat. Jumping off the plane into a one-man Bollywood number isn't endearing, it's puerile and offensive. His wife is definitely a 1 on the ScoggScale though. Apparently soybois can get good-looking wimminz if they have power and connections.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (NWiLs)

123 101 It's fascinating watching the (D)s trying to explain why it is totes okay for the police to cower in the parking lot.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Bama's Boot Stomping on the Face of College Football Forever at February 24, 2018 12:06 PM (ks6bw)


Well, otherwise they would be shooting black people for no reason.

/s

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (sdi6R)

124 They were unapologetic that their culture was superior.... and it took at least partial hold everywhere from the US, to India...
It wasn't until they became wimps about their own culture... that it fell apart IMO.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 11:58 AM (NgKpN)


Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)

They had already started to shed parts of the empire by WW1...

WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

125 'We Szekeleys have a right to be proud, for in our veins flows the blood of many brave races who fought as the lion fights, for lordship. Here, in the whirlpool of European races, the Ugric tribe bore down from Iceland and the fighting spirit which Thor and Wodin gave them, which their Berserkers displayed to such fell intent on the seaboards of Europe, ay, and of Asia and Africa too, till the peoples thought that the were-wolves themselves had come. Here, too, when they came, they fought the Huns, whose warlike fury had swept the earth like a living flame, till the dying peoples held that in their veins ran the blood of those old witches, who, expelled from Scythia had mated with the devils in the desert. Fools, fools! What devil or what witch was ever so great as Attila, whose blood is in these veins? Is it a wonder that we were a conquering race; that we were proud; that when the Magyar, the Lombard, the Avar, the Bulgar, or the Turk poured his thousands on our frontiers, we drove them back? Is it strange that when Arpad and his legions swept through the Hungarian fatherland, he found us here when he reached the frontier? And when the Hungarian flood swept eastward, the Szekeleys were claimed as kindred by the victorious Magyars, and to us for centuries was trusted the guarding of the frontier of Turkey-land; ay and more than that, endless duty of the frontier guard, for, as the Turks say, "water sleeps, and enemy is sleepless". Who more gladly than we throughout the Four Nations received the "bloody sword", or at its warlike call flocked quicker to the standard of the King? When was redeemed that great shame of my nation, the shame of Cassova, when the flags of the Wallach and the Magyar went down beneath the Crescent, who was it but one of my own race who as Voivode crossed the Danube and beat the Turk on his own ground? This was a Dracula indeed! Woe was it that his own unworthy brother, when he had fallen, sold his people to the Turk and brought the shame of slavery upon them! . . . Again, when, after the battle of Mohacs, we threw off the Hungarian yoke, we of the Dracula blood were amongst their leaders, for our spirit would not brook that we were not free. Ah, young sir, the Szekeleys - and the Dracula as their heart's blood, their brains and their swords - can boast a record that mushroom growths like the Hapsburgs and the Romanoffs can never reach. The warlike days are over. Blood is too precious a thing in these days of dishonourable peace; and the glories of the great races are as a tale that is told.'

Count Dracula

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (+y/Ru)

126 120 Does anyone here have specific experience with Gun Owners of America (GOA)? They seem to have a fairly active lobbying component. I send them money because they have 'gun' in their name.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

Not directly, but I hear they're very hardcore, as is JPFO.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

127 The NRA does not get its political power fro $ contributions which they use to contribute to politicians which support the second amendment. They get their power from the raw number of members.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
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Radio said Unions contributed more in one year than NRA in the last ten. It gave the numbers but I'm not certain. But NRA was in the middling millions and Unions, for one year, was 1.2 billion.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:18 PM (eSAWM)

128 115 Fighting two world wars within a span of three decades might have had something to do with it

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:05 PM (lKyWE)

The post WW II United Nations concept of the "noble savage" didn't help!
Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:13 PM (gwPgz)

that and Wilson's League of Nations....

sooooooooo many things wrong with the US stem from the period from about 1900 to 1920...

Just look at all the Constitutional changes they made during those years...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:19 PM (NgKpN)

129 If you define a Caliphate as someone who has managed to control Cairo, Damascus, and Baghdad; such entities oft times do not outlast the guy who conquered them.

***
I've referring to the Rashiduns, Umayyads, Abbasids, and Ottomans. Islam had a lot of trouble with a way to produce stable succession process. The Ottomans probably did the best by having the successor exterminate his siblings on succession...but that is pretty horrible and when it didn't work...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 24, 2018 12:19 PM (Z8FFX)

130 104 Syria sneezed on Europe. Merkel licked it up instead of wiping it off, and now she wants to French kiss Hungary.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (/qEW2)

...vividly said.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards...now with Black Panther Review at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (xJa6I)

131 Just look at all the Constitutional changes they made during those years...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:19 PM (NgKpN)


Nothing quite like "Progress" with an agenda!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (gwPgz)

132 Learned Clapton's studio version of "Tears in Heaven" on guitar this week and practicing now. Nice piece for fingerstyle, and am playing it on a new Yamaha.

The old Martin D-18 needed some serious work and has been at the luthier's shop for six weeks but is now finished, and outfitted with a blingy new tortoiseshell pickguard.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (5OEn4)

133 If Soviet Justice Wankers like Justine Trudeau ran the British Empire in the 1800s, in India Hindu wives would still be burned alive at their husbands' funerals today.

And they would be clapping and barking "Sati for you! And sati for you!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (bxLgY)

134 Only shoplifting half the stores you enter is pretty Christian.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:09 PM (Fs5vw)

Only one of them became a Christian. They allowed her to stop engaging in the illegal activities, but it wasn't easy for her. Lots of pressure from within the group.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (g5YYQ)

135 And they would be clapping and barking "Sati for you! And sati for you!"
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (bxLgY)

I love a good curried sati.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 12:22 PM (NWiLs)

136 I read somewhere that a huge portion of humanity has DNA in them from Attila. Something like a third.
Could be nonsense, but maybe not.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:23 PM (w7KSn)

137 WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)
************

Fighting the Colonies and the French at the same time?

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (eSAWM)

138 If you want a good laugh watch Comrade Detective on Amazon Video.

A Romanian communist Cop protects the State from capitalist scum trying to Sell Blue Jeans, Soda Pop, Western Music etc. lots of good jokes about How everything is the greatest made by communists. Jokes like When a criminal gets injured and is in the Hospital " he'll live we have the greatest Health Care in the World" It's a must watch and very funny.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (dKiJG)

139 Lots of pressure from within the group.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:21 PM (g5YYQ)


BUT, were they turning their lives around?

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (gwPgz)

140 136 I read somewhere that a huge portion of humanity has DNA in them from Attila. Something like a third.
Could be nonsense, but maybe not.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:23 PM (w7KSn)


I thought that was Genghis Khan.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (sdi6R)

141 28 We did the Danube cruise, Budapest to Nuremberg.
Fantastic. All of it.
I gained a pound a day.
Took me twice as long to shed it.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2

How did you get to Nürnberg on the Donau, it's nowhere near it

Posted by: GrandMa Bell at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (losIw)

142 Broward County tactical deputies

https://youtu.be/rh5G6RUgjiM?t=60

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 12:25 PM (FhXTo)

143 6 I read somewhere that a huge portion of humanity has DNA in them from Attila. Something like a third.
Could be nonsense, but maybe not.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:23 PM (w7KSn)


Yes! Yes! That explains my attraction to the Mongolian/Chinese buffet I like.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

144 They are welcome in Brattleboro if no body else wants these poor and destitute Muslims created by Trump policies !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien from Brattleboro, VT at February 24, 2018 12:26 PM (hqQ+Q)

145 "How did you get to Nurnberg on the Donau, it's nowhere near it"

Mad King Ludwig built a canal.
It was mostly folly.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 12:27 PM (w7KSn)

146
They had already started to shed parts of the empire by WW1...
WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)


The decline of empire had started but I was mainly refering to the two generations of young men who grew up with pride in the empire that were decimated in the conflict

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at February 24, 2018 12:27 PM (lKyWE)

147 because when one kid was getting money another would try and steal.

-
Well, duhhh. They diversify. All the great financiers do that.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:27 PM (+y/Ru)

148 I know the NRA won't get hurt by Delta and United and Hertz and others going all political, but who does get hurt by all this CNN-lead action is us, the members.

We have been othered. Like skinhead nazis.

Like those who want to fly confederate flags.

It will hurt those NRA members that work for those companies, and many other companies whose HR departments are all SJW. People will get othered, will not gain promotions, maybe will be forced out.

We'll be in the shadows. Our pickup trucks will get keyed, spat upon.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 12:28 PM (5OEn4)

149 I thought that was Genghis Khan.
Posted by: rickl


It's supposedly Genghis, but that's been disproven. The "Genghis gene" is actually one of his ancestors:
nature.com/articles/s41431-017-0012-3

Earlier waves of Turkic / Mongol attacks had already left lots of that DNA around Central Asia. When Temujin started #winning, the first peoples he conquered were peoples who were already his [distant] cousins. He recruited the survivors (easy enough if they're already relatives) and sent them off to do more conquering.

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (6FqZa)

150 75Without Hungarians, where would we get our paprika?



On the NRA topic - I don't know if these companies actually
contribute to the NRA or just offer discounts of some sort to members.
I'd agree that on a net cash basis, the NRA has probably not suffered
significantly (if at all) from these companies showing their corporate
asses. ----

Agreed, but the left is winning the perception game. Major American companies are tersely abandoning millions of Americans with impunity. The left is organized, we aren't, it is that simple. We are getting bulldozed.

If conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)

151 Yes! Yes! That explains my attraction to the Mongolian/Chinese buffet I like.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

lol. My test for funnies on Ace is if I read it to my husband. I read this one to him and he laughed.

Posted by: girldog at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (g5YYQ)

152 They are welcome in Brattleboro if no body else wants these poor and destitute Muslims created by Trump policies !!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstien
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I figured that you were pretty hot to trot but never thought you were that needy.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (eSAWM)

153 137 WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)
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Fighting the Colonies and the French at the same time?
Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (eSAWM)

I actually think we killed the British Empire...

That we won the Revolution destroyed their confidence... destroyed the Idea that God would never allow the British Empire to fail....

It took 100 more years for all the dominoes to fall... but once we showed we could free ourselves from the Empire... others saw it as possible.. including the British people themselves...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:30 PM (NgKpN)

154

Hotscakes in Hootersville!

Posted by: Lisa Douglas, Hungarian at February 24, 2018 12:30 PM (IqV8l)

155 Ethnic Hungarians are not Gypsies (there are a lot of Gypsies in Hungary, but they're considered a foreign people there, as they are elsewhere in Europe).

Romanians are not Gypsies either. The PC term for Gypsy is "Roma", which is a totally different thing from "Romanian".

Hungarians (Magyars) are descended from tribes from extreme Eastern Europe (the Ural Mountains region) that invaded what is now Hungary around the 9th to 10th Century.

Romanians are Slavs, like Russians or Poles. Where they differ is that Romania was conquered and thoroughly assimilated by Rome (hence the name) and accordingly they speak a Romance language related to Latin and Spanish rather than a Slavic language like their Slav neighbors. Genetically, though, they're Slavs.

The Romani (Gypsies) are descended from people who were kicked out of Northern India around 500 AD. Their closest genetic relatives are the "Untouchable" (Dalit) caste in India.


Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 12:31 PM (BPTve)

156 Earlier waves of Turkic / Mongol attacks had already left lots of that DNA around Central Asia. When Temujin started #winning, the first peoples he conquered were peoples who were already his [distant] cousins. He recruited the survivors (easy enough if they're already relatives) and sent them off to do more conquering.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (6FqZa)

Well Damn Dude...

Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???

Of course we're going to invade and steal your Womenz....

Posted by: Atilla the Honey Hunter at February 24, 2018 12:32 PM (NgKpN)

157 137
WW1 really accelerated the process... WW2 completed it... but they lost their 'Mojo' in the early 1800's IMO....



Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

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Fighting the Colonies and the French at the same time?

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:24 PM (eSAWM)

Actually fighting WWI caused the biggest setback in the British Empire. They lost a large portion of their male population and those that did return had become severely disenchanted with the class system then prevalent in GB. It also virtually bankrupted the British Empire.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 12:32 PM (mpXpK)

158 *pulls from shelf a book*

Mr. Prosser's mouth opened and closed a couple of times while his mind was for a moment was filled with inexplicable but terribly attractive visions of Arthur Dent's house being consumed with fire and Arthur himself running screaming from the blazing ruin with at least three hefty spears protruding from his back.

Khan it is.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:32 PM (bxLgY)

159 Agreed, but the left is winning the perception game. Major American companies are tersely abandoning millions of Americans with impunity. The left is organized, we aren't, it is that simple. We are getting bulldozed.

If conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)


Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM (Fs5vw)

160 Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???
Of course we're going to invade and steal your Womenz....
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The ongoing and ultimate 'Irish' problem. /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (MIKMs)

161
Agreed, but the left is winning the perception game. Major American companies are tersely abandoning millions of Americans with impunity. The left is organized, we aren't, it is that simple. We are getting bulldozed.

If conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.
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Can't argue with this! To be brutally honest. I stopped listening or reading anything by the MSM a number of years ago, so I can only imagine the tidal wave of crap they are generating.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:29 PM (n13/j)

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (Sfs6o)

162 "Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???"

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=mongolian+women

They look okay to me.


Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (BPTve)

163 Fly me to the moon
And let me play among the stars
Let me see what Spring is like
On Jupiter and Mars...

#TBT ace post (Marcie)
I think.



Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (tnOuI)

164 I'm very disappointed in all of you for failing to mention Hungary's best assets. Boobs.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 12:34 PM (g4lFK)

165 I got a hunski that says that the Broward Cowards would have no problem going after law abiding citizens and shoot their dogs.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 24, 2018 12:35 PM (3BFzK)

166 Somehow managed to insert my comments into the middle of your post - sorry quint!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:35 PM (Sfs6o)

167 Hey, quint. Weekends are happy fun time here. We get enough of this during the week.

Say it with me. Happy fun time.

Relax. Have a beer. Heck it's clos to noon somewhere.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gentleman Drunkard at February 24, 2018 12:36 PM (IMacf)

168 Have you like... SEEN Mongolian Women???

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High cheek bones. Is Warren actually a Mongolian and not an Indian?

I bet she would have been if it helped her get a $350K/yr one hour a day work job at Harvard.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (3BFzK)

169 Is Delta in on the NRA bs? That would surprise me since delta is so pro Military.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (hZ+us)

170 I just joined the NRA for the first time with a 5 year membership. I've never owned and gun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if I'll let the leftist scum try to take away my right to own a gun if I were to choose to do so.

For those who aren't NRA members yet, I would encourage you to think about joining as well.

Posted by: mpthompson at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (b0njJ)

171 * reads above *

Gypsies. * spits *
I been telling you people, but ya just didn't listen.
Oh, and Mongol and central asian chicks are teh hawt.
That is all.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:38 PM (fA1SL)

172 Is the gypsy question serious? That is a good way to solicit a lot of hateful comments.

I ran a business in an area in the US that had many. People who do not know them romanticize about their culture, but it is very much a raider culture of taking whatever you can from the host. This is deeply ingrained. They feel shame if they do not manage to steal or cheat outsiders in some way, no matter how small.

I think JJ linked an article about Danish culture, and trust. This is the opposite of that. where they are active, either you know to avoid them, their presence, scams, fake businesses, please for charity, etc. Or you become a victim.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 24, 2018 12:40 PM (LWu6U)

173 Were about to book the whole familys flights for
our summer vacation. Delta and united are now off the list.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2018 12:40 PM (hZ+us)

174 I'm already an NRA life member, but I'm looking to join the GOA today. Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)

175 Posted by: mpthompson at February 24, 2018 12:37 PM (b0njJ)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (Sfs6o)

176
Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM


Trump won the election but 3 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. Kind of a mixed bag.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

177 I tend to apply Occams Razor a lot of the idiocy we see. Most of it can be blamed on stupidity and nativity, not evil conspiracies. But sometimes, like with immigration, evil conspiracy seem more likely than the easy explanation. It is almost reaching that point in the Parkland shooting. So many bad decisions/incompetence almost make it seem it was allowed to happen. (Security cameras with a 20 minute time delay? Is that even possible?) The MSM going into immediate hyper-drive attacking guns and NRA to new levels of hysteria and the obviously planned student crusade adds to the sense of suspicion. This reminds me a of the supposed Charlottesville KKK riots, which were a nothing-burger until promoted to a crises by the MSM and Dems.

Really hate wearing a tinfoil hat but sometime it seems less crazy than the BS official story.

Posted by: Ripley at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (MxEKc)

178 " No passport holder of ANY country that refuses to take back their citizens will be permitted to enter Europe for any reason.. That may well be too draconian for the delicate stomachs of our ruling elite, so go about it in a more gentle way."

That would be a great solution, or one step in the right direction. But the EU bureaucrats are the draconian ones, and their "delicate" stomachs feast on destruction of the masses and their strong cultural identities.

The multi-culti diversity religion is a ruse ... they intend to break country heritage since they want all the EU under the (unelected bureaucratic) EU flag. The Eastern Bloc has enough history of Soviet dictators, so they are the ones most strongly rejecting Brussel's "refugee" quota demands.

Countries are their people and their heritage, but the corporate/banker conglomerates have printed enough funny money paper that they feel they own the world, which they may ... On fake Paper. They now move toward diaspora, moving the third world in, and rooting out traditional America via by PC mandates of diversity and race quotas.

Soros and the goons and political hacks have long been planning to bring us under their thumb. Americanism will unite us again.

Europe was peaceful after WW2 since the countries mostly had their sovereign identities and borders. Japan is praised for their polite society, but they are all Japanese. Scandinavian countries were admired but also, 95% "demographically pure" till the recent destructive Muslim invasion. (watch Paul Joseph Watson videos to see how that is going)

The West Won, but has to regroup and cling to their regional religion(s) and guns and roses, not cling to false globalist propaganda. Flooding us with third world peoples is a subversive effort to destroy us, not make us stronger.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (bT8Z4)

179 The last patent for the MPEG-2 video codec expired, making it possible to distribute software and sell hardware without paying license fees for MPEG-2 content.
MPEG-2 is still used in over-the-air broadcasts in most of the world, and is popular in live TV production for low processing overhead.
The final patent in the United States which covered the MPEG-2 video codec, #7,334,248, expired on February 13, 2018.

Posted by: SMOD at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (e8kgV)

180 Does anyone here have specific experience with Gun Owners of America (GOA)? They seem to have a fairly active lobbying component. I send them money because they have 'gun' in their name.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:16 PM (Sfs6o)

Why not both?

Seems like NRA is under attack right now, so people that have gripes with them ought to bury the hatchet for a bit and support them.

I've been an NRA Life Member for 41 years now, and will continue to support them over and above that, as things allow.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (aS7LQ)

181 You guys ever see the footage from the 1956 summer Olympics when Hungary and the Soviets met in a water polo match? This being after the invasion of Hungary?

Holy crap! Guys are being pulled injured out of the pool left and right. Used to see this on ABC, especially if they were doing the summer Olympics.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (mIJBI)

182 f conservatives want to respond, call the company, forget tweeting and email. Tell them you are done with them and why. If you have a loyalty card with them, cancel it; that is concrete, not a tweet.


Good idea. Ill do this tomorrow. I actually have a delta credit card- time to cut it up.

Posted by: LASue at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (hZ+us)

183 I just joined the NRA for the first time with a 5 year membership. I've never owned and gun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if I'll let the leftist scum try to take away my right to own a gun if I were to choose to do so.

For those who aren't NRA members yet, I would encourage you to think about joining as well.
Posted by: mpthompson

That's exactly how I got started!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (aS7LQ)

184 174 I'm already an NRA life member, but I'm looking to join the GOA today. Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)
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My experience has been they do not. They never call and when I do get a letter from them (not infrequently) I just toss it until I'm ready to give them money again. Just sent them $100.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)

185 @155 Romanians are Slavs, like Russians or Poles.
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They might be part Slav, but they appear to also have a mix of other groups, such as the Dacians who lived in that region during the Roman Empire (and were partially conquered by Trajan). One thing that I've heard is that the Russians traditionally consider themselves the protectors of all the Slavic nations (and apparently include Hungary in that mix), but the Romanians doesn't fall under that protective umbrella.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:44 PM (VAt5v)

186 Remind me never ever to live in Broward County.

Seriously, when's the last time there was a non-terrible news story out of there?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 24, 2018 12:46 PM (jnLXM)

187 155 & 185. They consider themselves Dacians, but I think of them as a sorta cadet branch of Slav master race. They got the boozing and insanity down pat; we're still working on purifying their language. Few more generations.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:46 PM (fA1SL)

188 Spent a week in Hungary for work. It was awesome!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (0tfLf)

189 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (aS7LQ)
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Hi Jinx (hijinks!) I've been sending GOA $$ for years as well as being an NRA Life Member. Can't overemphasize the need to support these groups.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (Sfs6o)

190 I love this blog becuz I can get a world history lessnon from time to time.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Stay woke! at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (IYHxL)

191 Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM

Trump won the election but 3 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. Kind of a mixed bag.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)


30 to 19 (1 tie). Which is the more relevant stat, rather than just counting up the Californicators and acting like that's the only number that matters.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (Pz4pT)

192 I'm already an NRA life member, ... Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)
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I'm confused.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (eSAWM)

193 As a side note, a Gypsy family has been hanging out periodically at a McDonalds not far from us, begging, in the last couple of months. My mother had a Gypsy family living across the street from her a few years ago. Their habits were . . . distinctive. Have you ever met a Gypsy in America?

I was on an intra-European flight when a Gypsy broke out a Sterno can, fired it up in the aisle, and started making tea. The stewardesses (justifiably) had a cow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (YqDXo)

194 I'll join the NRA when they bundle a foolproof canoe with every membership. Until then, I'm shooting whitewater rapids and I may capsize at any moment.

Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (bJ0w+)

195 I just joined the NRA for the first time with a 5 year membership. I've
never owned and gun and probably never will, but I'll be damned if I'll
let the leftist scum try to take away my right to own a gun if I were to
choose to do so.

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Me too. Won't be able to own a gun (my choice), but no more playing with fundamental rights.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 12:49 PM (MIKMs)

196 Hmmmmm. Who won the the presidential election? Just asking.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 12:33 PM (Fs5vw)
Which one?

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 12:49 PM (n13/j)

197 Sen. Cornyn has reportedly come out against Trump's proposal to raise the age limits on gun purchases (or is it ownership?).

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:49 PM (VAt5v)

198 Posted by: Fritz at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (bJ0w+)

Join and maybe you'll never need that canoe.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 12:50 PM (0+nbW)

199 The Romanians are proud of their (distant) Roman roots. I've read in a very old book that they got upset at the old British-English spelling of "Rumania" because they wanted the "Rome" part to stay.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 12:50 PM (ewxPW)

200 " So many bad decisions/incompetence almost make it seem it was allowed to happen. (Security cameras with a 20 minute time delay? Is that even possible?) " Ripley

To me it is clear it was allowed. Could they push Cruz over the edge, fully aware he was "ready to explode"? ... completely within the realm of the "evil empire agents" imo.

He made so many threats it seemed he wanted to be stopped, but was instead encouraged, if not triggered. But those sorts of suggestions get censored in social media, and there is no hard evidence afaik.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:50 PM (bT8Z4)

201 I'm already an NRA life member, but I'm looking to join the GOA today. Does the GOA harass its member base as much as the NRA purportedly does for donations?
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (NL6wI)
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My experience has been they do not. They never call and when I do get a letter from them (not infrequently) I just toss it until I'm ready to give them money again. Just sent them $100.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)


Some places, allegedly reputable organizations to whom I donated once, send me so much mail, I swear they've eaten up the cost of my donation with those mailings alone.

So yeah, no. Some places, I don't donate to more than one time.

I haven't yet decided to join the NRA. I have decided however, a professional association, to whom I have sent quite a bit of money, is sending out mailings talking up their anti-gun stance. So yeah, they're not getting another dime from me.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (Pz4pT)

202 FedEx is not rolling over fast enough.

Igorvolsky
@igorvolsky
Updated action tweet to pressure @fedex to cut its @NRA ties:

Email @FedEx execs
djbronczek@fedex.com
abgraf@fedex.com

Tweet FedEx president @j_bronczek

Tweet FedEx Comms head@RajViews

Call @FedEx
901-369-3600

Sign petition http://gunsdownamerica.org/campaign/tell- …

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (+y/Ru)

203 Is Delta in on the NRA bs? That would surprise me since delta is so pro Military.
Posted by: LASue


The two: NRA and pro-military, are not necessarily congruent.

Behold the power of the soviet denunciation tactic. This is the power of the Media to form opinion among part of the population.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (S6Pax)

204 Some of my competitive shooting amigos are on the NRA Board and I can tell you these guys are serious about protecting our rights.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:52 PM (Sfs6o)

205 The Left fears the NRA because they believe Yamamoto's quote of "a rifle behind every blade of grass."

They fear that is truth and thus will stymie their desires for ultimate Nibelung power of Mordor.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:52 PM (bxLgY)

206 gorvolsky
@igorvolsky
What would you guys think about going to local @FedEx stores with signs asking them to break ties with @nra?

Go with your friends, take pics, post them on social and get others to do the same.

We really need to show them that their customers want them to drop the gun lobby!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (+y/Ru)

207 From the comments it sounds like we are getting pummeled. Why be surprised?

There are many groups Obama organized during and after his Presidency.

Soros has his groups who will jump on any bandwagon that will help their cause.

Clinton's have their groups...more shady.

Then you have the left groups, who keep growing, like weeds.

You have the wealthy celebrities.

Then there are the true believers.


And the right has never organized and I guess we are not going to. Because even after a year of Trump, we still haven't. We have no mechanism to rally the troops and make calls. The left out-organizes us every time. Politics are downstream from culture. So until someone or some group decides to take the reins, this will continue.

I keep thinking the RNC or the conservative media will do so. Or blog owners. Or Steyn and TuCa & media types. Or some Pac. Or grassroots. Some group of leaders. But looks like no.

So I can't get my hair on fire every time. I don't have the resources or abilities to organize a group, so I do what I can individually, but it's not enough. Until we formally organize into groups, or a group, and fight back, expect these situations to continue.

Trump winning is not enough long term. He is erasing Obama's legacy, and someone can erases Trump's.

I'm not being Debbie Downer, I'm being realistic. And I'm resigning myself to facts, bcz I can't keep getting upset and disappointed. And I'm sick of banging the drum in posts about things that need doing. So just sayin...and JMO.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (tnOuI)

208 199. Yep. They're quite proud of their Latin heritage, the Romanians. It does show, too - they combine in roughly equal part the drama and noise of the guineas with the rampaging madness of the Slav master race. Fun people.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (fA1SL)

209 Sen. Cornyn has reportedly come out against Trump's proposal to raise the age limits on gun purchases (or is it ownership?).

Posted by: junior
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Cornyn a tell-tale on the mast.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (eSAWM)

210 Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 12:42 PM (bT8Z4)

I view most nations as essentially extended families; people in Europe never ask (or never used to, at any rate) each other where they're from: they're from that country, since Adam first felt up Eve, and at some level they're probably all related to some extent.

The US is the exception, by virtue of being a nation of immigrants, the US is more like a club than a family, but the principle still obtains: a nation is a group of people united by language, custom, values, and in most cases, blood.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (YqDXo)

211 How well do you know Hungarian? I got a thumbs up from Chuck Norris. But I thought you were going top show some Hungarian women with "elbows".

Posted by: flukeboy at February 24, 2018 12:54 PM (EtEhm)

212 193
I was on an intra-European flight when a Gypsy broke out a Sterno can, fired it up in the aisle, and started making tea. The stewardesses (justifiably) had a cow.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:48 PM (YqDXo)


Sounds like we shouldn't give Gypsies money or matches.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 12:55 PM (sdi6R)

213 Nood.

Posted by: HH at February 24, 2018 12:55 PM (mIJBI)

214 And I forgot to add...I applaud those on here taking actions. It is a wonderful thing to see.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (tnOuI)

215 So Jay, Romi are on par with those African Muslims who started a cooking fire on that airliner in flight... is that what you are saying?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (bxLgY)

216 Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (tnOuI)

The difference: conservatives tend to individualists, whereas the Reds are, by nature, collectivists. It's much harder to organize the former than the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (YqDXo)

217 But do their boxing gloves have iron weights in them, Palp?

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (ewxPW)

218 My wife's family are Hungarian-Austrian Jews. They, IMHO, are the best looking women in the world. We met when we both were married to other people. We were in our early twenties. All four of us were close friends for 6-7 years then we had a falling out. Something about me being an arrogant asshole, which I found strange. We saw each other about 5 years later and we haven't been apart for 30 years.

Posted by: REDACTED at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (VWsDy)

219 @177 Security cameras with a 20 minute time delay? Is that even possible?
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If the bit about Broward County hiding (ignoring) youth crimes to qualify for Federal grants is true, then it makes a certain amount of sense. After all, if a student commits a serious crime in view of the cameras during the "do not arrest" period, then you want enough time to remove the offending footage from the security tapes before someone has a chance to see it and start asking questions.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (VAt5v)

220 212
Gypsies - the Uzbeks of Europe.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (fA1SL)

221 215 So Jay, Romi are on par with those African Muslims who started a cooking fire on that airliner in flight... is that what you are saying?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (bxLgY)


Yup. It's almost as if some people didn't get the memo about the 21th century. Or the 20th. Or the 19th. Or much of anything after the 7th.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (YqDXo)

222 Just took the Hungarian quiz, got 71%. Not bad, since I don't speak a word of the language.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 24, 2018 12:59 PM (IcT7t)

223 217. You can count on it. They're quite the streetfighters, Romanians:

https://youtu.be/texgeorDu3U

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:00 PM (fA1SL)

224
Stasi, anyone?


They live among us.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:01 PM (wD7F7)

225 Stasi, anyone?


They live among us.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:01 PM (wD7F7)

Her Mom too.

Posted by: (she's got it goin' on) at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (jnLXM)

226 184 My experience has been they do not. They never call and when I do get a letter from them (not infrequently) I just toss it until I'm ready to give them money again. Just sent them $100.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 12:43 PM (Sfs6o)


Cool, thanks! I went ahead and joined.

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 01:02 PM (NL6wI)

227 Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 12:53 PM (tnOuI)

The difference: conservatives tend to individualists, whereas the Reds are, by nature, collectivists. It's much harder to organize the former than the latter.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 12:56 PM (YqDXo)


Then we will lose. I think it is lack of leadership. No one, or no group, is willing to take up the mantle, while the Left has got groups galore. Heck, ISIS and terrorists have better organizing skills. And CAIR. We are the only ones who can't organize to fIght back. So we can't keep being surprised we are losing. It was sad Bannon went off the rails bcz he may have had the ability, but we have no one else.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (tnOuI)

228 223 217. You can count on it. They're quite the streetfighters, Romanians:

https://youtu.be/texgeorDu3U
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:00 PM (fA1SL)


The one chick has a pretty good throwing arm: good mechanics, velocity, AND accuracy.

The Padres' pitching coach will be in touch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:04 PM (YqDXo)

229 228. Heh. Eastern Europeans rock.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (fA1SL)

230 Gypsies are also notorious in Britain for squatting in temporarily unoccupied houses and then refusing to leave, and apparently under British law are difficult to evict.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (YqDXo)

231 192 I'm confused.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 12:47 PM (eSAWM)


I have heard plenty of NRA members complaining of frequent phone solicitations for donations. Aside from the occasional snail mail, they've not bothered me.

Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted) at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (NL6wI)

232 201
Some places, allegedly reputable organizations to whom I donated once, send me so much mail, I swear they've eaten up the cost of my donation with those mailings alone.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 24, 2018 12:51 PM (Pz4pT)


That has been my experience as well. I send a $10 donation to some charity, and they inundate me with mailings forever afterwards that cost far more than my donation. I don't understand how that's supposed to work.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:05 PM (sdi6R)

233 I have heard plenty of NRA members complaining of frequent phone solicitations for donations. Aside from the occasional snail mail, they've not bothered me.
Posted by: antisocial justice botnik (unindicted)

That has been my experience.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at February 24, 2018 01:06 PM (aS7LQ)

234 Re the NRA spam/junk mail issue.


Last night in the ONT esteemed Moron Jim (Sunk New Dawn) said to do the following.


Immediately after joining, call the NRA membership phone number. Ask, then ask them to confirm, that they have coded your membership as "No Promotions". He says this is the magic switch that turns off the river of junk.


Just passing on Jim's advice for the discussion.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (ETFzT)

235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)

236 Balkan elbows:

https://youtu.be/AoOXyaPVVgI
https://youtu.be/7Q533RHWKss

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:08 PM (fA1SL)

237 "They might be part Slav, but they appear to also have a mix of other groups, such as the Dacians who lived in that region during the Roman Empire "

Undoubtedly they do. There are few pure races in Europe, no matter what Hitler fantasized about. Hell, most Europeans still have Neanderthal blood in them.

Genetically, Romanians are closely related to Serbs, Croats, and Bulgarians, so if you consider those to be Slavs, Romanians probably should fall in that category as well.

On the other hand, these are Europeans we're talking about. The Serbs and Croats are essentially genetically identical, but may get violent if you try to point that out. Serbs are Orthodox and use Cyrillic, while Croats are Catholic and use the Latin alphabet. Totally different people. Obviously. Even though they look exactly the same and live a virtually identical lifestyle. :-)


Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (BPTve)

238 Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (tnOuI)

Its a question of money too.

Somehow, the Left was able to put funding mechanisms in place, so they have people who make their living, at organizing, OUTSIDE of the DNC itself.

The Right? Doesn't. (outside of groups like the NRA).

There is no counterpoint on the Right, to Organizing for America... or any of those other Progressive SJW groups.

Hell.... look at the Clinton Foundation... which was getting funding from FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (NgKpN)

239 Trump won the election but 3 million more people voted for Hillary than Trump. Kind of a mixed bag.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 12:41 PM (IqV8l)

Only if you hate the concept of the electoral college.
Who cares if she wins Cali and NY by 80%? Well, the dems do because then coastal elitism tells them it's okay to ruin the space between the coasts, but that's a different issue.

Now if a recheck and recount were to be done nationwide I believe that many areas would be like Detroit. They were quickly found to be so corrupted taht the Michigan recount was quickly folded.
Throw in a million or two illegal aliens voting and you have your difference.

What was the point again?

Posted by: Lon Horiuchi at February 24, 2018 01:09 PM (z79tQ)

240 If the bit about Broward County hiding (ignoring) youth crimes to qualify for Federal grants is true, then it makes a certain amount of sense. After all, if a student commits a serious crime in view of the cameras during the "do not arrest" period, then you want enough time to remove the offending footage from the security tapes before someone has a chance to see it and start asking questions.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 12:57 PM (VAt5v)


I say again: "disparate impact" has got to go. Ring up malefactors, regardless of ethnicity. If every one of those rung up turns out to be a "protected minority," then so be it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:10 PM (YqDXo)

241 235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)



If you're trying to convince me that this whole thing wasn't deliberately ginned up, it's not working.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (sdi6R)

242 Then we will lose. I think it is lack of leadership. No one, or no group, is willing to take up the mantle, while the Left has got groups galore. Heck, ISIS and terrorists have better organizing skills. And CAIR. We are the only ones who can't organize to fIght back. So we can't keep being surprised we are losing. It was sad Bannon went off the rails bcz he may have had the ability, but we have no one else.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:03 PM (tnOuI)
*****************************************

Don't let the naysayers and defeatists get you down. Cesspools like Broward County invite such events and the media have always been against us.

The collectivists ban together because as individuals they are worthless. True diversity or rugged individualism as we used to call it is our strength.

So, buckle up and say your prayers, it may be a rough ride but we will prevail.

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (eSAWM)

243 Orwell wrote about a gypsy he worked with in"Down and Out in Paris and London" in the 1930's.

In the French hotel kitchens, if you were a temp hire they had to pay you a full days wage if you worked the first 4 or so hours for the day. The Magyar, as Orwell called him, worked the first 4 hours then became unruly to the point of having to be fired upon which he got the full 10 hour days pay. He told Orwell it was a scam he worked until he ran out of hotels to work for.

Always on the make......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (EoRCO)

244 From the comments it sounds like we are getting pummeled. Why be surprised?

My bet is gun sales skyrocket this month.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (O5Q3r)

245 "Only if you hate the concept of the electoral college."

Once again the Founders prove to be wiser than any of our modern "elites".

Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 01:12 PM (BPTve)

246 237. Well, srpski and hrvatski have a fairly recent grudge - WWII. ustache (and that includes the Bosnians, also largely Slavic) did sorta kinda attempt genocide of the serbs.
Hence, REMOVE KEBAB.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:13 PM (fA1SL)

247 I say again: "disparate impact" has got to go. Ring up malefactors, regardless of ethnicity. If every one of those rung up turns out to be a "protected minority," then so be it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:10 PM (YqDXo)

I don't think you understand.
Equality before the Law is unfair.

Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (z79tQ)

248
re: Winn Dixie going tits up

It's been years, decades maybe, since I've been at a Winn Dixie. I remember the stores being behind-the-times and kinda crummy.

Kroger, at the same time, was bright and modern.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (wD7F7)

249 "Well, srpski and hrvatski have a fairly recent grudge"

Oh, yes. And others going back for centuries.

There's a reason why we have the term "Balkanization".

"Let's see... what would happen if we packed Catholics, Orthodox, Muslims, Jews, and Gypsies into a tiny region, with maybe a sprinkling of Protestants for zest?"

Diversity in action.

Posted by: Anagram Nation at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (BPTve)

250 247
I don't think you understand.
Equality before the Law is unfair.
Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:16 PM (z79tQ)


Equality before the law was invented by white people. Therefore it's racist.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (sdi6R)

251 242 I am no naysayer (not saying you implied that). But if we are winning, let's sprint through the finish line. I worry when major companies always bend to the same side's views, there must be a reason for it.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (n13/j)

252 The collectivists ban together because as individuals they are worthless. True diversity or rugged individualism as we used to call it is our strength.

So, buckle up and say your prayers, it may be a rough ride but we will prevail.
Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (eSAWM)


Another aspect is that while the Left is persistent, it is also brittle. Look at how they lost their shit over the Tea Party, and were so insecure that they began the pathetic "Coffee Party" ("See, we have a 'grassroots' movement too." Not.)

Or how, stung by Rush Limbaugh & Co. they started the execrable (and ill-fated) "Air America" to compete.

Or at any demonstration, they'll list 25 nonexistent organizations - ginned up for this one purpose - as supporting them, each consisting of some permutation and combination of a handful of leftists.

Events such as these lead me to suspect that their support isn't nearly as widespread as they try to convince us, and they know it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (YqDXo)

253 249. It's like someone created an especially sadistic version of Civilization or something. Tito was probably a better man than we know, or worse, simply because he managed to hold that place together as long as he did.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (fA1SL)

254 Gypsy mythology says because a Gypsy stole the third nail that was to have been used to pierce Christ's feet and so eased His suffering, God has given Gypsies dispensation to steal.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM (ewxPW)

255 You know the argument "the US affects the world, therefore the world has the right to vote in US elections"? What about: Germany is affecting Hungary with its immigration policies, therefore Hungary has the right to vote in German elections?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (/qEW2)

256 Another civil rights organization (ALWAYS use this formulation when around the dim and the ignorant, for fun) for anyone looking to push back in their own small way is the Second Amendment Foundation.


They fight the fight where it must be fought, in the mostly collapsed judiciary. They join/lead lawsuits on key issues before state and federal courts.


Justice Thomas the other day said the 2nd is "a disfavored right" before the current SCOTUS. Decorum and all, I'm sure, but this kind of under-statement drives me crazy. I prefer the much more accurate language of Roberts (spit), back before he went off the rails, in his stunned dissent in Hamdan v. Bush (military tribunals) - where he said the court's behavior "threatened the very constitutional system" (quoting from memory).


Can't find expert court-watcher comment on this specific matter, but seems to me that since the 4th's decision on the MD gun law, the inferior courts are in open revolt, and have effectively "over-turned" Heller from below - for now.


So far - and in far wimpier a fashion than I actually expected - SCOTUS has appeared to finally draw the line at *some* of the lawlessness, in their small-ball smack-downs of the 9th on the EO cases. If SCOTUS doesn't move dramatically to restore the law - and even their OWN system wherein they rule the roost - there's really no limit on the damage.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (QDnY+)

257 254. Yes. There was to have been a fourth nail, but a gypsy swiped it.
Of course, they stole THAT story from the Gnostics. Typical.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:21 PM (fA1SL)

258 255 You know the argument "the US affects the world, therefore the world has the right to vote in US elections"?

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (/qEW2)


Send them a bill for 105 years' worth of back income taxes first.

Then burn them on voting anyway.

I know. It's a gift.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:22 PM (YqDXo)

259
Gypsy moths?

remember the Gypsy Moth Caterpillar plague of the early '80's?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:23 PM (wD7F7)

260 We tried the Tea Parties to organize the right and got co-opted and abused for the trouble. Meanwhile the left's organizations consume ever more of their time, money and energy to produce more noise and fewer results. Fuck their nonsense. Normal Americans just show up and vote right.

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 01:24 PM (FhXTo)

261 The police video in the sidebar. Heartbreaking. The Ciral Gable cops are the heroes. Screw Broward County.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 24, 2018 01:25 PM (yTbz8)

262 Re: Travelers, that's a name for Irish or Scottish migrant peoples. The older name is "Tinkers," because a lot of them were traveling tinkers or followed other itinerant trades. They started traveling in larger groups after a lot of tenant farmers got thrown off their land in the 1700's and 1800's, and they used to have their own Gaelic dialects.

The Roma have been talked about above. There are four main tribes in the US and UK, but there are more tribes in Europe.

The thing to understand about them is that they have an extensive religious and secular law code, much like kosher law or Indian caste law. But it only applies to Roma. Everybody else, including Roma who decide not to live according to their laws, is fair game. Non-Roma can never really become Roma, either.

Obviously not every Roma person is going to do bad stuff, and some Roma join non-Roma religions in all sincerity. Others are just too smart to mess with people for no reason. But inside the group, they are going to be taught to worry more about proper respect for the campfire than for a non-Roma.

Anyway, the general impression left by their laws and traditions is that everything in the world actually belongs to Roma, or was created for their use. So stealing from you is actually taking back what they have been allowing you to use.

Some non-Roma do manage to get along with Roma - usually by having an 18 Charisma, a high Dexterity, and a good sense of humor. Everybody else is out of luck.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at February 24, 2018 01:25 PM (sF8WE)

263 As my grandmother told me : 'The Lord created gypsies to prove he wasn't picking on just us.'

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (fA1SL)

264 180 - "Seems like NRA is under attack right now, so people that have gripes
with them ought to bury the hatchet for a bit and support them."

That's kind of how I see it. In this case, for me it is more supporting the spurned members, not the NRA leadership. Other organizations have been better on certain issues many times in the past. And don't forget the state orgs, they can be very effective at enhancing rights. .

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (n13/j)

265 Is anyone tracking the idiotic and despicable corporate lynch mob shouting of the corporations ending their discounts - just so intelligent Americans can avoid giving them business? NRA itself should keep track on their website (though they won't).


Would also be nice if some high profile public figures (senators from safe, gun-nut states) publicly trashed these companies for their despicable lynch mob behavior.


"The disastrously stupid policies and callous incompetence of Broward County law enforcement, and the FBI, and the previous administration's effort to completely destroy the rule of law for school age Americans, enabled evil to act out in Florida.


It is despicable and indefensible for American corporations to join the ignorant lynch mob blaming law-abiding citizens and civil rights organizations for this situation."

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (ETFzT)

266 Or how, stung by Rush Limbaugh & Co. they started the execrable (and ill-fated) "Air America" to compete.


They have the mainstream media doing their bidding, so Air America was no loss.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (tnOuI)

267 Gipsy Moths?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_DH.60_Moth

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (sdi6R)

268 263 As my grandmother told me : 'The Lord created gypsies to prove he wasn't picking on just us.'
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (fA1SL)


My impression has been that the gypsies do PLENTY to make themselves unpopular.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:31 PM (YqDXo)

269 imo it is not that the globalists have some grand ambition for world peace and harmony, it is that they are a mafia cabal intending to wipe out any resistance by any means necessary. They had it going gradually but then Obama put the pedal to the floor and Hillary lost ... now the crime syndicates are being revealed right up to FBI/Deep State level ... and they are not surrendering, and the Bildgerbergs are re-positioning, adjusting strategy.

So can we compromise with them, or does the chaos collapse a lot of things? Magic Eight Ball says "ask again later".

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 01:32 PM (bT8Z4)

270 268. Yep. Growing up, gypsy was a favorite slur. There's a reason for that.

Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, 501st Kremlin Jewbot Gvardii at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (fA1SL)

271 And what have I missed? How are "we" "losing" at the moment?


To put it in terms familiar to AOSHQ commenters:


* number of convictions of Clinton cabal/Obama administration senior figures in connection with the Mega-Scandal = 0


* number of new laws abridging 2A rights arising from FL incident = 0


Sticking with this theme - wake me when any new actual laws infringing 2A rights, enacted directly in reaction to FL, are on the books.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (ETFzT)

272 266 Or how, stung by Rush Limbaugh & Co. they started the execrable (and ill-fated) "Air America" to compete.

They have the mainstream media doing their bidding, so Air America was no loss.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 01:29 PM (tnOuI)



Yes, but that supports my thesis. If they were more secure, more confident, they'd have just laughed off Rush Limbaugh.

But they didn't. They were stung into trying to emulate him, despite having all of the MSM on their side. That suggests that they are nervous and uncertain about their own support.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:33 PM (YqDXo)

273 268
My impression has been that the gypsies do PLENTY to make themselves unpopular.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:31 PM (YqDXo)


That's my impression as well. Jews have done plenty to contribute to civilization. Gypsies, not so much.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:35 PM (sdi6R)

274
Who else can't stand the Amish?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:36 PM (wD7F7)

275
Just kidding. They okay.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:36 PM (wD7F7)

276 Some of my competitive shooting amigos are on the
NRA Board and I can tell you these guys are serious about protecting our
rights.
Posted by Weasel

Sort of like the poster "confused" by the GOA/NRA thing, we don't like to air the laundry in front of "civilians." I'll just say, to an outsider, you can't understand some of the things that get said about the NRA unless you have been around the NRA's internal politics for 40 years or so.

There is intense infighting between factions in NRA, and competitive event sponsorship has been on the out-slide for a long time. The political activists consider the competitive shooters to be pests. Inside the "fraternity," newer, showier, funner shoot-em-ups have been promoted at the expense of the traditional shooting sports. Camp Perry became a civil war, and all my sides lost. "My" nationals are now at two places in Indiana.

This goes back at least to the Neal Knox days, and it keeps getting worse. In USAS, the Olympic shooting division that the NRA disowned in the 90's (and, possibly, "with cause"), you'll find some fairly anti-gun characters. You haven't had a gun fight until you've talked with a Brit international shooter who thinks we are crazy for being able to drive armed to the range.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 01:38 PM (H5rtT)

277 Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:20 PM (QDnY+)

GREAT point about the 2A Foundation. I'm a life member, although I've been too lazy to keep up with their recent activity.

Judges are everything. There's nothing else. That's why we have to keep the senate. McTurtle has his problems, but his shepherding of judges through the process and putting the hold on Garland are critical to keeping our constitution alive.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (6HFDU)

278

Has anybody ever accurately tallied a "fistful of dollars."

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:41 PM (wD7F7)

279 Has anybody ever accurately tallied a "fistful of dollars."


It's what you take from one Yojimbo.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 01:43 PM (fuK7c)

280 Judges are everything. There's nothing else. That's why we have to keep the senate. McTurtle has his problems, but his shepherding of judges through the process and putting the hold on Garland are critical to keeping our constitution alive.
Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:40 PM (6HFDU)

I'm not going to say there's no truth to your statement, because it accurately describes the moment. But I will say things are pretty fucked up when the third co-equal branch of government have become pieces on the chessboard of partisan politics.
Nobody is even hiding it anymore, including the judges.

Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)

281 278 - Has anybody ever accurately tallied a "fistful of dollars."


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 01:41 PM (wD7F7)

I will, for "a few dollars more"

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (n13/j)

282 Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)


See, this is why I shouldn't even try to use socks.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 24, 2018 01:45 PM (z79tQ)

283 wake me

Sorry, Morons still busy lifting Sessions big toe and shaking his shoulder.

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 01:45 PM (FhXTo)

284 And don't forget the state orgs, they can be very effective at enhancing rights. .
Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:28 PM (n13/j)

Yep, down at the state level is where a lot of the real action is. In a state like Texas, it mostly involves the efforts to loosen gun laws. In commie states, it involves the efforts to fight off the tightening of gun laws.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:46 PM (6HFDU)

285 At the airport
Heading home
Had a great visit
Tired but content

Posted by: Votermom's phone at February 24, 2018 01:47 PM (GYoIh)

286 I'm not going to say there's no truth to your statement, because it accurately describes the moment. But I will say things are pretty fucked up when the third co-equal branch of government have become pieces on the chessboard of partisan politics.
Nobody is even hiding it anymore, including the judges.
Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)

Exactly. It shouldn't be this way, but it is.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:48 PM (6HFDU)

287 I was with my sister-in-law shopping at a Nordstrom outlet in Portland several years ago. A large group of gypsies entered the store. One woman went up to the counter and started complaining very loudly to the clerk. The other clerks joined her trying to deal with this now screaming woman. Meanwhile, the accomplices picked up armfuls of clothing and simply left the store. The screaming woman left also. This whirl of activity was over in a matter of moments.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 24, 2018 01:49 PM (tcwn1)

288 Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (eSAWM)

Naysayers don't get me down, I say my prayers, and thanks for the encouragement. If I were perpetually brought down by the naysayers here I'd sit in the corner and never come out. :^)

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 01:50 PM (8+Ozj)

289 Eric Holder sock, you are absolutely right.


That's why I refer to the "collapsed judiciary/constitutional system".


I don't think there's a bit of hyperbole in that formulation, and I'd dare the top constitutional scholars alive to debate the point.


Sure - in MOST areas, the courts are not arbitrary, off the rails, lawless, and chaotic. Areas that affect daily commerce. Imagine the sort of lawlessness and judicial rule we see in things like the 2A, marriage redefinition, or election integrity applied to contract law. The economy would shut down.


THEN - the 90% of the country that doesn't notice or care would suddenly get religion.


Closest we've come is the still-astonishing behavior of the court in not smacking down the looting of Chrysler bond-holders in the 2008 "crisis". I don't know how that turned out - but it was an appropriate introductory flourish for the lawlessness of the Obama years, and a shocking thing that - if extended and continued, would literally derail our economy (no hyperbole).

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:52 PM (ETFzT)

290 286
I'm not going to say there's no truth to your statement, because it
accurately describes the moment. But I will say things are pretty fucked
up when the third co-equal branch of government have become pieces on
the chessboard of partisan politics.

Nobody is even hiding it anymore, including the judges.

Posted by: Eric Holder, who will make things fair at your expense at February 24, 2018 01:44 PM (z79tQ)



Exactly. It shouldn't be this way, but it is.

Posted by: stace at February 24, 2018 01:48 PM (6HFDU)

It has been that way since Marbury vs Madison when Adams manufactured the issue to get a central government authority that he wanted during the convention and could not get. Jefferson said the ruling was BS but could do nothing to get rid of it.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 01:55 PM (mpXpK)

291 Gypsy mythology says because a Gypsy stole the third nail that was to have been used to pierce Christ's feet and so eased His suffering, God has given Gypsies dispensation to steal.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 24, 2018 01:19 PM (ewxPW)


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Well, at least they feel the need to come up with a rationalization. The Clintons just think they are God.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 01:56 PM (/qEW2)

292 I think GM was also looted. It was astonishing; nothing was done and mentioned matter of factly.

And then Corzine taking all the segregated funds from that investment house. What did the Dem feds do? Did he even get a reprimand?

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 01:56 PM (eSAWM)

293 There's an Italian speed skater named Lollibridgida in the event now on the live feed.


Interesting event, don't completely understand it. Long race, "sprint" laps, lots of strategy.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:56 PM (ETFzT)

294 Closest we've come is the still-astonishing behavior of the court in not smacking down the looting of Chrysler bond-holders in the 2008 "crisis". I don't know how that turned out - but it was an appropriate introductory flourish for the lawlessness of the Obama years, and a shocking thing that - if extended and continued, would literally derail our economy (no hyperbole).

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 01:52 PM (ETFzT)


Fun fact: the bondholder who got hosed the worst was the Michigan State Teachers' Pension Fund, a union that doubtless supported Obama.

You've got to laugh.

(As yet further proof of the left's lack of business/financial acumen (of a piece with "profit to earnings ratio") was their lack of sympathy for the lootees because they were hedge funds. Apparently they did not realize that hedge funds aren't investing their own money, but rather that of the limited partners (in this case, a union pension fund). Sure, it hurt the hedge fund a bit too, since they get only a percentage of the carry but also a fraction of the profits, but the people who really got hosed were the limited partners.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 01:57 PM (YqDXo)

295 For me?
Okay.
I'll take you,,, and you,,, and you darlin',,, annnnd you.
Forgive me if I've left anyone out.
It's been a long day.

Posted by: teej at February 24, 2018 01:59 PM (9razJ)

296 241 235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


If you're trying to convince me that this whole thing wasn't deliberately ginned up, it's not working.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 01:11 PM (sdi6R)

That's highly disturbing.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

297 Is anyone tracking the idiotic and despicable corporate lynch mob
shouting of the corporations ending their discounts - just so
intelligent Americans can avoid giving them business? NRA itself should
keep track on their website (though they won't).





Would also be nice if some high profile public figures (senators
from safe, gun-nut states) publicly trashed these companies for their
despicable lynch mob behavior.
---
Less customers means less revenue.

Someone with the means ought to make a buck by shorting their stocks.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 02:02 PM (XQvuQ)

298 What we need now is Black Rifle Rent-A-Car......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 02:06 PM (EoRCO)

299 296
That's highly disturbing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:00 PM (NWiLs)


Somebody needs to save that video, because I have a feeling it's going to disappear from YouTube.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:06 PM (sdi6R)

300 Gypsy mythology says because a Gypsy stole the third nail that was to
have been used to pierce Christ's feet and so eased His suffering, God
has given Gypsies dispensation to steal.
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It sure was fortunate that there wasn't another nail to be found in all of Jerusalem.

Also, I'm not sure that makes any sense as a matter of physics since more weight was on the other nails.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (XQvuQ)

301 Right after the shooting before any facts had come out, Israel was at a press conference saying if you notice a neighbor with a bag from a gun range when they usually only have grocery bags you should call the popo.

Very stable genius he is not.

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 02:10 PM (SkuXa)

302 Any Walking Dead fans interested in this Sunday's director's cut season 8 episode 8 and episode 9 premiere since the writers decided to kill off Carl, unexpectedly?

I saw a recent brief clip of Andrew Lincoln speaking and his British accent is 70% percent gone because he is spent half of his life the last 8-9 years living in Georgia.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 02:11 PM (g4lFK)

303 299 296
That's highly disturbing.
Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

Somebody needs to save that video, because I have a feeling it's going to disappear from YouTube.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:06 PM (sdi6R)

Speaking of YouTube, they are officially going after Alternitive News via the 3 strikes and your out. Murdoch met with Silicon Valley a few months ago and gave the go ahead. They are going after Infiwars, which I know the Horde is not a fan of but damn this is flat out totalitarian type shit. Oh. and in a 2015 interview with Matt Drudge on Infowars with Alex Jones, he predicted the big 5-6 corporations that own close to 95% all tv and print media and entertainment would start cracking down on wrongthink, independent journalists, and alt media.

They are going after the conservative and right and the Left are so dumb they believe that they won't be next.

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 02:17 PM (g4lFK)

304 We'll be in the shadows. Our pickup trucks will get keyed, spat upon.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 12:28 PM (5OEn4)

Then you kill them. Get a grip, FFS.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 02:19 PM (Dbv1R)

305 241 235 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


I'm sure Nezar Hamze is going to be vociferous in tracking down Muslim terrorists.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

306 I make and distribute Hungarian pornography.

Posted by: Elliot's boyfriend in that one episode of Scrubs at February 24, 2018 02:25 PM (N9jDm)

307 Hey Weasel, got my 2018 NRA ballot for directors in front of me. The only name I recognize is Grover Norquist. Who else should I vote against. heh. I can't vote for more than 25 candidates. Any thoughts?

Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (RZWC0)

308 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


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That was despicable. It's not his place to determine who should be kept out of jail - that's the judge's job. His is to enforce the law, not arranging for them to avoid sentencing. And the whole video had an eerie vibe - as if Israel were visiting a Middle Eastern shithole to give his talk.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 02:30 PM (/qEW2)

309 Heard on way home on radio a German skater used music from Schindler's List, many have their panties all in a knot. Its a musical score for a hero of the human race, I doubt the skater used it for the love of extermination camps.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 02:32 PM (aC6Sd)

310 I am no naysayer (not saying you implied that). But
if we are winning, let's sprint through the finish line. I worry when
major companies always bend to the same side's views, there must be a
reason for it.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 01:18 PM (n13/j)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (Dbv1R)

311 When the dotcom bubble was going strong in the late 90's, a stock would go public at $5/share with no business really, just the name and a concept. Just add dotcom and it would run to $100 on nothing. Many of the search engines lasted a little longer, but those also faded.

Google managed to spread its wings, but I'm not sure it or some of the others are all that invincible. It seems they got support from the oligarchs by agreeing to go fascist, including (in some cases at least) an agreement to go totalitarian against liberty and conservatives.

Part of it is spying for the CIA/NSA, but pushing certain search results to the front page is also BIG in controlling the public "narrative". That is why I really hate all the bailouts for billionaires and the guys like Corzine that never get prosecuted.

Now we have cyber war and meme war, but we have to get our government back. #2weeks we are promised over and over.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (bT8Z4)

312 And heard a couple of airlines now don't want any NRA members to use their planes.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (aC6Sd)

313 "A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a
local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR
that he deputized:



https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e



The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)"

There is a part where he is speaking glowingly about Nezar Hanze and how he has the same values/goals. One of which is giving kids a second chance! Strange thing to bring up in a speech like that since most people believe children deserve another chance and usually a lot more than two. Unless... you are talking about ignoring serious crimes. By certain youths. Youths of politically favored groups. This must be what he meant or else he would not have brought it up. It is further evidence of what we are starting to hear about the Broward catch and release program. Or don't even catch.

Posted by: Ripley at February 24, 2018 02:34 PM (MxEKc)

314 Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 02:33 PM (bT8Z4)

the only way that works is if its a strictly American company.

Big Tech is getting hammered by the EU, and China... because they have no freedom of Speech...

and they cave... which suddenly means Americans get swept up in the Laws or morals of Non US cultures...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 02:36 PM (NgKpN)

315 A short video clip of Political Commissar Scott Israel addressing a local mosque on Ramadan, introduced by the smiling regional head of CAIR that he deputized:

https://tinyurl.com/ydaqd38e

The guy is a dangerous leftist nitwit of the highest order.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at February 24, 2018 01:07 PM (WXasw)


"Our children are so important to us."

Yeah, otherwise you'd have to wear the suicide bomb belts yourselves.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

316 perhaps to be discussed in the weekly Gum Thread?


https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=376039

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 02:39 PM (EyPfd)

317 Szep jo napot kivanok mindenkinek!

Most csinaltam a magyar nyelvi vizsga-csak 110%-ot kaptam!

Basz meg!

Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:39 PM (zCyNd)

318 307 Hey Weasel, got my 2018 NRA ballot for directors in front of me. The only name I recognize is Grover Norquist. Who else should I vote against. heh. I can't vote for more than 25 candidates. Any thoughts?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (RZWC0)


Grover Norquist is a notorious Muzzie-lover. It wouldn't surprise me if George W. Bush got his "Islam is a religion of peace" talking point from him.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (sdi6R)

319 Was wondering when Miklos would show up to - of all things - a "Hungarian thread" at the HQ.


Still remember the Hungarian med students on the train from Lvov to Kiev. They were stoked to be able to hang out with Americans for a night. They had some great spicy ketchup-like condiment they shared. Only flavorful thing I had that summer apart from shashlik we managed to find in Leningrad.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (ETFzT)

320 Posted by: Stringer Davis at February 24, 2018 01:38 PM (H5rtT)
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Thanks for your insight. I was speaking, of course, of people I know personally in the high-power community.

t-dubya-d : John Sigler is a good guy. Not sure if he's running for the board again, but Rich Kussman is a good guy too. Both are active competitors.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (Sfs6o)

321 nly flavorful thing I had that summer apart from shashlik we managed to find in Leningrad.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (ETFzT)


In the USSR (shortly before it fell) a Russian Orthodox priest was talking about Leningrad, saying it used to be Petrograd, and before that, St. Petersburg.

Then he smiled slyly and said, "But it may be St. Petersburg again, soon."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

322 @321 In the USSR (shortly before it fell) a Russian Orthodox priest was talking about Leningrad, saying it used to be Petrograd, and before that, St. Petersburg.

Then he smiled slyly and said, "But it may be St. Petersburg again, soon."
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On the one hand, I'm glad those names are switching back.

On the other, well...

The name "Stalingrad" has meaning for anyone who's paid the least bit of attention to World War 2 history. But Volgograd? Not so much...

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 02:48 PM (VAt5v)

323 1. deliberately ginned up,
b: emergent property,

or

I - obvious consequences of Democrat policy.

Let's run with numeral I since Roman times, it's just easier.

Posted by: DaveA at February 24, 2018 02:50 PM (FhXTo)

324 Scott Israel: "surround yourself with like-minded people."

Well, I guess he succeeded.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

325 Maybe the Purple Revolution will involve mentally unstable and borderline criminal youths with no parents living in foster homes getting purposely agitated and provked to the point they go out and shoot up places like schools, malls, concerts, night clubs, ect...
Then the Marxists/Commies have prepackaged massages, mouth pieces, and narratives ready to go in order to sway the traumatized and emotional public into supporting giving up their rights and freedoms.


Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 02:53 PM (g4lFK)

326 But junior, I'm fairly confident that any foreigner travelling (intentionally) to Volgograd goes there precisely because it's Stalingrad.


Not sure what there is to even see there, related to the battle. Need to research that. I have a gigantic European battlefield tour dreamt of/planned, but the Soviet ones are a bit of a quandary. Not much to actually visit.


Mass graves near St Petersburg, and the warning painted on the buildings on one side of Nyevsky Prospyekt ("During shelling this side of the street is safer") were the only WWII things I recall there.


Was just wondering the other day whether Russian trolleys and buses still have the signs near the front, for the seating near the front door: "Seats Reserved for Pregnant Women and Veterans" (something like that). In the 1970s, "veterans" meant Great Patriotic War.


Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:53 PM (ETFzT)

327 Still remember the Hungarian med students on the train from Lvov to Kiev. They were stoked to be able to hang out with Americans for a night. They had some great spicy ketchup-like condiment they shared. Only flavorful thing I had that summer apart from shashlik we managed to find in Leningrad.

Posted by: Very Unstable Semi-Genius, AKA rhomboid at February 24, 2018 02:43 PM (ETFzT)

Hungarians are very fond of Ukrainian ketchup and horseradish condiments. When people visit Ukraine from Budapest friends always ask to bring some.

Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:55 PM (zCyNd)

328 Scott Israel: "That's why the Broward County Sheriff's office has been so successful."

Oopsie.

OTOH, they did keep Nicholas Cruz out of jail, so there's that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 02:56 PM (YqDXo)

329 Actually, Hungarian gypsies would not do well on the Hungarian language quiz. That would require literacy.

Gypsies still have their own language, by the way, called Lovari. It only has about 500 words, and it still quite close to the Indian dialect of their ancestors.

Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:58 PM (zCyNd)

330 Siglers on the ballot, no Kussman though. Maybe do a little research before I cast my ballot and send another donation. Disappointed there is no Nebraska candidate! Our Governor invited the NRA convention here after political hack in DFW told them to stay away.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 03:08 PM (RZWC0)

331 Gypsies still have their own language, by the way, called Lovari. It only has about 500 words, and it still quite close to the Indian dialect of their ancestors.
Posted by: Miklos Moknar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 02:58 PM (zCyNd)


Only 500 words? How can they express themselves with any precision with so few?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

332 @326 Not sure what there is to even see there, related to the battle. Need to research that. I have a gigantic European battlefield tour dreamt of/planned, but the Soviet ones are a bit of a quandary. Not much to actually visit.
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I suspect that the big draw for a war history buff visiting Russia would be the tank museum at Kubinka. As for actual battlefields? Dunno. But I suspect that if you asked in the right places (I do know of one - the forums for Battlefront Miniatures get a lot of Russians who are fans of World War 2, but they're shutting down the 15th of next month) you'd get a list pretty quickly.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 03:12 PM (VAt5v)

333 @325 Then the Marxists/Commies have prepackaged massages
-------------------

Is the masseuse hot?

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 03:13 PM (VAt5v)

334 {{{horseradish}}}

Posted by: gNewt at February 24, 2018 03:18 PM (AC18V)

335 Not sure if its still true but many years ago there was a news report English passed 1 million words, and it said French only had 100,000.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:19 PM (aC6Sd)

336 Any Walking Dead fans interested in this Sunday's director's cut season 8
episode 8 and episode 9 premiere since the writers decided to kill off
Carl, unexpectedly?
---
No, I discovered, at least in my case. After a lengthy argument over the last jedi in which I stated I was done with Disney, when I meant to say 'Disney Star Wars', I got to thinking and there's a bunch of stuff set to auto-record on my DVR that are still there out of inertia, and I cleared out more than I expected. TWD was among the casualties of my meh.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 03:20 PM (XQvuQ)

337 I know there are fortifications left from WWII, of course I mostly look for 7 year or Napoleonic war sites but doing that see lots of rebuilding to them for WWII.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:22 PM (aC6Sd)

338 And there are lots of YouTube videos on finding tanks in bogs or lakes that they tried to drive over and sunk I guess

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:25 PM (aC6Sd)

339 I know how to say a few words in Hungarian, one of which is the word for sweets, like cookies. I also know how to ask what time it is. So if I went to Hungary, I'd grow fat on sweets, and always know what time it was. So I'd have that going for me.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 24, 2018 03:25 PM (FQKBL)

340 Only 500 words? How can they express themselves with any precision with so few?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Dindu + nuffin with 498 left over.

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:33 PM (zCyNd)

341 The NRA doesn't survive by discounts offered by airlines and hotels.


Exactly. They will prefer the extra few hundred thousand members they are getting out of the deal.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 24, 2018 03:35 PM (yQpMk)

342 Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at February 24, 2018 03:25 PM (FQKBL)

You would always get the freshly baked pastries!

Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:36 PM (zCyNd)

343 "Just bake the cake, hater!"

"Then just fly the plane, asshole."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 24, 2018 03:48 PM (jnLXM)

344 307 Hey Weasel, got my 2018 NRA ballot for directors in front of me. The only name I recognize is Grover Norquist. Who else should I vote against. heh. I can't vote for more than 25 candidates. Any thoughts?
Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 02:26 PM (RZWC0)

Grover Norquist is a notorious Muzzie-lover. It wouldn't surprise me if George W. Bush got his "Islam is a religion of peace" talking point from him.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 02:41 PM (sdi6R)


Good to know rickl. I have never trusted the guy. Never. But with this new info, I would encorage others not to either. Makes me wonder if he is of the globalist ilk.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 03:58 PM (tnOuI)

345 Big Tech is getting hammered by the EU, and China... because they have no freedom of Speech...

and they cave... which suddenly means Americans get swept up in the Laws or morals of Non US cultures...
Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 02:36 PM (NgKpN)


That's a good point.
Also, by their nature it appears all big tech giants are globalists, even if not left (though most are). So that's a double hemlock cocktail for free speech.

Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (tnOuI)

346 A few years ago we went to Fla to a family owned group of 4 cottages on the beach. We rented our favorite and arrived to find an odd "family" in the neighboring cottage. We went to the beach and they were there, the women fully clothed, the men in shorts and the children completely naked. It was weird. I went back to the cabin and they followed me. They began to pack up their car and load their things as it was check out time for them. One of the women came and knocked on my door. She said they had stayed in the cabin we were in and she left something on top of the cabinets. She wanted me to get on a stepstool and "search". I was very suspicious about that and then I heard a noise. The glass door behind me (which I had locked when I came in) rattled. I looked around and 2 young men of theirs were standing there trying to look unsuspicious. The woman kept asking me to check the top of the cabinet for her (I forgot what) all the while they were eyeing my purse sitting on the table beside the locked glass door. I told the woman to send the men away, she could come in, I would lock the door behind her and she could get on the stepstool and look for whatever. If she found/didnt find, I would unlock the door for her to leave. She wanted nothing to do with that and left. So did the young men at the back glass door. I was so shaken I called the owners who lived across the street. One of them came over and oversaw this group leaving. A few minutes later, the local police arrived and made a big show of following them off the island. The police came back and told the owner and us they would keep a close watch out for a few days in case that group came back. The police said they had reports from up and down the coast of gypsy family gangs staying in places and robbing other guests who were careless about securing their apts/condos/cottages, cars, etc. They didnt come back but that scared the dickens out of me. My Mother in Law was robbed at a train station in Hungary when she came to Europe to visit us and take a tour by gypsy gang--stay far, far away, not a good people in my experience

Posted by: lb at February 24, 2018 04:05 PM (Ea9jC)

347 335 Not sure if its still true but many years ago there was a news report English passed 1 million words, and it said French only had 100,000.
Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 03:19 PM (aC6Sd)


Misquoted. French has 100,000 words for "surrender," not 100,000 all told.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 04:05 PM (YqDXo)

348 340 Only 500 words? How can they express themselves with any precision with so few?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 03:10 PM (YqDXo)

Dindu + nuffin with 498 left over.
Posted by: Miklos Molnar, the Merry Magyar at February 24, 2018 03:33 PM (zCyNd)


LOL!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 04:09 PM (YqDXo)

349 That's a good point.

Also, by their nature it appears all big tech giants are globalists,
even if not left (though most are). So that's a double hemlock
cocktail for free speech.
---
Maybe they need breaking up. Because if being global means giving up on free speech, we don't need them.

Posted by: Methos at February 24, 2018 04:17 PM (XQvuQ)

350 There's a reason English has so many words.

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

Posted by: Bandersnatch at February 24, 2018 04:18 PM (fuK7c)

351 The French fiercely limit the number of new French words. They have an official bureau for that, I think.
That's why it is easy to learn, relatively speaking.

Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (w7KSn)

352 I do followTWD, but missed two episodes at end of lasts half season, its on to late for me and have to watch it on Demand.

Posted by: Skip at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (aC6Sd)

353 That's a good point.
Also, by their nature it appears all big tech giants are globalists, even if not left (though most are). So that's a double hemlock cocktail for free speech.
Posted by: professor disarray, gumdrop gorilla channel at February 24, 2018 04:03 PM (tnOuI)

Also because WE opened the door with other countries laws being able to be enforced here.

Because we did it to get Noriega... we now say that if you break US Law, even if you are in another country, we can come get you...

Soon we will see EU hate speech laws being enforced on people in the US... because they can be READ in the EU... its almost inevitable unless there is a MAJOR push back from the Non Nanny Men of this country.

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 04:27 PM (NgKpN)

354 351 The French fiercely limit the number of new French words. They have an official bureau for that, I think.
That's why it is easy to learn, relatively speaking.
Posted by: navybrat at February 24, 2018 04:23 PM (w7KSn)


I recently began studying Japanese (for whatever reason; I'm not sure, actually). Turns out that there are only about 2000 kanji approved for use in newspapers by the Japanese government.

Hey, that's not so bad ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

355 @333 Is the masseuse hot?
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That reminds me. Used to know an Hungarian masseuse here in SoCal. Smoking hot woman with dusky skin. Went out with her once, but I kinda screwed up the date.

She moved up to the Bay Area not long after.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 04:28 PM (VAt5v)

356 @353
Soon we will see EU hate speech laws being enforced on people in the US... because they can be READ in the EU... its almost inevitable unless there is a MAJOR push back from the Non Nanny Men of this country.
----------------------

There's already been some pushback against this sort of thing here in the US. I don't know if you remember libel tourism. The way it worked was that a book would get published in the US that was accurate, but critical of a group (usually Islam). The book would be sold in Great Britain. Someone in Great Britain would then sue for libel in British courts, where truth is not an absolute defense. The British court would then reward a judgement against the book's author.

Fortunately, Congress passed a law several years ago that made such judgements unenforceable in the US.

Posted by: junior at February 24, 2018 04:32 PM (VAt5v)

357 Spokane has the "Jimmy Marks" Gypsy Clan... The usual bunch of psychics, palmreaders, con-artists and bull-sh1tters... They're mostly confined to the used car business these days... You can find out more in Wikipedia.

Posted by: franksalterego at February 24, 2018 06:12 PM (3cq8T)

358 I still wanna know: Who or what gives anybody any right to leave the country they were born in?
If you live in a ****hole, It is very likely that you personally had something to do with the place becoming a ****hole.

Time to fix that green statue with the fake torch and spiky hat. Ditch the torch and put on a hand with a single upraised finger. Yeah, that finger.

Posted by: Burger Chef at February 24, 2018 06:24 PM (RuIsu)

359 Vic We Have No Party: "They get their power from the raw number of members."

This.

When I donated, I didn't give a flip about ANY associated programs. I didn't want the free hats, decals, tote bags, whatever either.

I donated to help their legislative activism and educational programs. That's it. That's why I got annoyed with all the mailings after becoming a member. They were wasting limited resources to remind me to do what I was already doing.

Just take my money and be happy. Don't pitch your own product anymore, much less ancillary products I don't give a crap about.

But these corporations now pulling back their coupons? That just helps me capitalize on my time as the list of companies I might've done business with is reduced.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 24, 2018 08:25 PM (H8S+R)

Weird News Dump

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***

Good morning Morons. Another week has passed and here we are in the last Saturday of February.

Let's take a gander at some items that didn't get too much attention here at the AoSHQ this past week.

***

Enjoy these stories and or something else in this open thread. No running with sharp objects, pants are optional so are elbows on the table. Be nice and be well.

Have a great weekend!

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:30 AM




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1 :~)

Morning!!

Posted by: Ruth Ruben at February 24, 2018 08:25 AM (T2aay)

2 The Lindsey Vonn Bronze spot ?

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 08:28 AM (OjqUs)

3 !!!

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 08:28 AM (OjqUs)

4 2th?

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:28 AM (Sfs6o)

5 Oh look...
Content

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 08:29 AM (EyPfd)

6 Damnit!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:29 AM (Sfs6o)

7 That GA woman who burned down all the houses looks like a real winner. Too bad the dogs and cats had to burn to death.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 08:29 AM (mpXpK)

8 Hold my beer part 2.
Does that crossing guard have relatives in Florida?

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 08:29 AM (8ikIW)

9 One wonders how many deputies are behind the pot.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 08:31 AM (jTKIp)

10
Last Saturday in February? Excellent. February sucks in Pennsylvania. Nasty month.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 08:31 AM (2FqvZ)

11 'Morning everyone. I woke up with a very slightly sore throat, so I'm technically sick, so no chores today!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 08:31 AM (Sfs6o)

12 My post about our church's mission trip in Guatemala got willowed, but I'm just on my second cup of coffee so I won't repost.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:32 AM (JxYR+)

13 Morning, y'all. Cloudy and warm, so let's get crack'n on the lawn stuff!

Or more coffeve...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:33 AM (7LY+6)

14 Morning Horde! Just making the coffee.

Not fit to talk to yet.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 08:33 AM (tr2D7)

15 I am staying in a coffeeless household while our hardwood floors are being sanded and stained.

Need. Coffee.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:34 AM (8INjy)

16 Willard, Jane, Willard.

That is how we say it.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:35 AM (8INjy)

17 I'm laughing just reading the url's of all these stories.

Humans, we're the best!

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 08:35 AM (5qYq+)

18
Already had my double cup of exploitative, unsustainable, slave-trade coffee and I feel great.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 08:36 AM (TUHpv)

19 Oh sure.. I show up and everyone leaves!

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 08:37 AM (dUJdY)

20 That poor Ruskie bobsledder needs to be consoled.

Yup, lots of consoling. Burns calories too like that there banned drug she was using.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 08:37 AM (EoRCO)

21
I'll repost for Jane D'oh

Our church has a medical team in Guatemala right now that, along with other churches, is serving over 2,000 people with medical/dental needs in remote villages. One of the volunteers said it's stunning to see 2,000 people line up peacefully and wait patiently for hours or days to be seen for needed treatments. Our team consists of everything from our pastor, to a married couple who buy and prepare food for our team, an interpreter, and medical pros. They've been doing this for years.

My husband says that when/if he ever sells his business and retires, he'd love to go as an interpreter. I'd love to volunteer with meals.

They do have to have security. It's a dicey area.


God bless these volunteers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 08:37 AM (TUHpv)

22 Seen on twitter:

If you outlaw guns, only Broward County deputies will have guns.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:38 AM (8INjy)

23 I am staying in a coffeeless household"

*deepest sympathies*

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:38 AM (7LY+6)

24 The British skip is never going to live those ends down. Threw away bronze.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 08:38 AM (ayEGB)

25 I am staying in a coffeeless household while our hardwood floors are being sanded and stained.

Wuuuut!? Those words don't even make sense. Call in some Big M supper club via their Uber delivery service if you have to. We don't want to read about you in the news later today.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 08:39 AM (YYYb4)

26 We had a board meeting in Athens Thursday night, and the venue where we had the dinner meeting was weird.

We got there and the two staffers were very glum-faced. The small buffet was pretty awful, too.

It turned out the manager of the venue, a man in his 40's, had died suddenly and his funeral was that day(!!) We ate quietly, thanked the two staffers whole-heartedly, and left without holding a meeting. Someone said the man died of the flu. Awful.

My husband attended a breakfast meeting yesterday, and we drove out to a work site. Watched my husband and other guys walk around in the mud and grass and take pictures of the mud, grass and trees.

Spending the rest of the weekend at my MiL's and her sister's retirement village. I can't even. Last night we ate in the assisted living dining room. My MiL and her sister picked at their food and argued from 5:30 until after 7:00. I wanted to kill myself.

One more night and we flee back home. I do all the driving so my husband can make calls, e-mail, and text. We're a team.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:39 AM (JxYR+)

27 I should have said this in the last thread.
Hopefully it will be seen.

Byzantine General, I think I've seen you comment before but if so, it wasn't much.
Please do so more often.

And grammie, break the old church folks in easy by maybe playing "One" for em.
Maybe put that Psalm, the number of which I can't remember but speaks of a number of musical instrumunts, in the bulletin.

Posted by: teej at February 24, 2018 08:39 AM (9razJ)

28 There is a diner round the corner with about ten pages of breakfast on the menu. Will be remedying this coffee sitch as soon as the wifey gets out the shower and dressed.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:40 AM (8INjy)

29 That poor Ruskie bobsledder needs to be consoled. "

Look at the Horde willing to go all out for folks they don't even know...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:40 AM (7LY+6)

30 Neighbor making coffee. Must be patient.

Posted by: Corona at February 24, 2018 08:41 AM (2bC+G)

31 My MiL doesn't drink coffee, and my husband drags out the French press her NYC daughter keeps here.

We are "blessed" with New Yorker Magazines in nearly every room, thanks to NYC SiL. Because you can never be too "informed."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:41 AM (JxYR+)

32 I do all the driving so my husband can make calls, e-mail, and text. We're a team.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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That right there Jane is beautiful.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 08:41 AM (tr2D7)

33 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:41 AM (hyuyC)

34
There is a diner round the corner with about ten pages of breakfast on the menu. Will be remedying this coffee sitch as soon as the wifey gets out the shower and dressed.

Ten pages of breakfast menu? Go! Go now, man! She can catch up later.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 24, 2018 08:42 AM (TUHpv)

35 It's not doping if you don't get caught!

Posted by: "OAR" at February 24, 2018 08:42 AM (ayEGB)

36 Boker tov horde. I will be going in to work today even though I'm still fighting this darn cold.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 24, 2018 08:43 AM (EZebt)

37
Winn Dixie is going tits up.

I-heart-radio is rumored to be turning its tits to the upright position, also.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at February 24, 2018 08:44 AM (Xs7AG)

38 I do all the driving so my husband can make calls, e-mail, and text. "

See, that's the problem. Don't you know that the average driver is supposed to text, email, and chat while driving?

Snort.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:44 AM (7LY+6)

39 One more night and we flee back home. I do all the driving so my husband can make calls, e-mail, and text & take pictures of mud. We're a team.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:39 AM (JxYR+)


FIFY.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 08:44 AM (5Yee7)

40 What the heck kind of chemical makes your bobsled go faster?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 24, 2018 08:44 AM (roQNm)

41 10
Last Saturday in February? Excellent. February sucks in Pennsylvania. Nasty month.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 08:31 AM (2FqvZ)

Isn't much better here in the Great North of WI either.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 08:45 AM (3/sUh)

42
Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:41 AM (hyuyC)


I normally to comment on early morning ONT but I must say "Thank You' for this regular comment of yours.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (3/sUh)

43 What the heck kind of chemical makes your bobsled go faster?

The men were going 85 mph yesterday thru those little hamster tunnels. Maybe it was a sedative.

Posted by: t-bird at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (ZM6hc)

44 Dear Lord. My husband just informed me his BFF (who was married to my BFF who died from cancer) is going to show up mid-day with his awful wife. The one who took all his stuff and moved out not long after they were married. He took her back.

I cannot stand the woman.

Thank you, husband. It's not enough I drive and attend your board meetings with you, stay with your cranky, demanding mother for the weekend, but now you've blessed me with your idiot friend (who we learned was cheating on my friend as she died) and his nasty wife.

There went any promise of a semi-nice day.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)

45 Winn Dixie is going tits up. "

Haven't they done that a couple of times in the recent past?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (7LY+6)

46 February in NE Kansas?

Ditto.
And with that, out for a while.

Posted by: teej at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (9razJ)

47 PS, I just signed up for 5 years of NRA membership, and got the wife and SiL to do so also.

Find a discount online and its only a hundie.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (8INjy)

48 What the heck kind of chemical makes your bobsled go faster?"

Tequila?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:48 AM (7LY+6)

49 I found the tool I need at Home Depot. It's a dremel rotary tool workstation for woodworking and jewelry. Under $50 and looks perfect. I think I will get a lot of use out of so don't really mind putting out the $50. Only one left so I will grab it this morning while I'm out.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 08:48 AM (dUJdY)

50 . February sucks in Pennsylvania. Nasty month.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises
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It's that rodent's fault. Your rodent, I might point out.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 08:48 AM (ZpfqO)

51 What the heck kind of chemical makes your bobsled go faster?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 24, 2018 08:44 AM (roQNm)

Silicone spray on the runners?

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 08:49 AM (0+nbW)

52 Last Saturday in February? Excellent. February sucks in Pennsylvania. Nasty month.
Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 08:31 AM (2FqvZ)

Isn't much better here in the Great North of WI either.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
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Ret Buckeye Cop - what did we have here in OH, two days of sunshine this month?

Is homicidal or suicidal the way to go? Just wondering.

Texas beckons.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 08:50 AM (tr2D7)

53 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)

Just say no. Tell him why and then tell him he can meet up with them somewhere else. Pretty simple solution.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 08:50 AM (YYYb4)

54 Is it my imagination, or am I just watching less tv with the UN games on, but I haven't noticed many black history month kumurshuls this year. Or with Cock Curious out of office for over a year are we officially post racial?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 24, 2018 08:50 AM (y7DUB)

55 It's a dremel rotary tool workstation "

The one that looks like a drill press but allows you to "hang" the dremel w/flex shaft?

It's waaaaay cool. Neighbor has it, and it's awesome...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:51 AM (7LY+6)

56 The men were going 85 mph yesterday thru those little hamster tunnels. Maybe it was a sedative.
Posted by: t-bird
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They should get a Maserati to tow them.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 08:52 AM (ZpfqO)

57
There went any promise of a semi-nice day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)


Take long walks. Many of 'em.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 08:52 AM (pNxlR)

58 I have four words for you --

Tattooed mannequins

Robot graffiti

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2018 08:52 AM (0ogQG)

59 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)



Just say no. Tell him why and then tell him he can meet up with them somewhere else. Pretty simple solution.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 08:50 AM (YYYb4)


Can't do. They're on their way down from the mountains now. I am getting nauseous I'm so angry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:53 AM (JxYR+)

60 There went any promise of a semi-nice day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)


I'm no weather-man ... but it sounds like Mr. D'ohs forecast is Mostly Frosty with a Zero Percent Chance of Lovin' later in the evening.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 08:53 AM (fiGNd)

61
What the hell was going through her mind?


The poor decision-making abilities of a large portion of the population are what fill the news every morning.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 08:53 AM (oVJmc)

62 Well today's high is only gonna be about 35. That means it will be a spendy day because I'll have to go to the range. Damn the luck.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 08:54 AM (YYYb4)

63 I saw Tattooed Mannequins open for Robot Graffiti at Axis in 1986

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:54 AM (8INjy)

64 They're on their way down from the mountains now. "

Shame those brake lines didn't hold up....


just say'n.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:55 AM (7LY+6)

65 Later, all. Have to go prepare for a miserable day with cranky MiL and her sister and now husband's idiot BFF and his hell-wife.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:55 AM (JxYR+)

66 I am getting nauseous I'm so angry.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:53 AM (JxYR+)


Jane ... go with this !!!

Start puking all over the house. He'll have to call 'em off then !!!

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 08:55 AM (fiGNd)

67 Yes Anon, but now I am reading through reviews and there are quite a few that said it was all plastic, not very durable. Well, shit. Maybe I should just get a simple dremel and nothing fancy. After all, I really just want to drill a hole in the bottom of the bullet casing. I just thought the other bells and whistles would come in handy if I ever got more involved in making certain pieces.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 08:55 AM (dUJdY)

68 Now that 's a weather channel I can get behind

Posted by: rammajamma at February 24, 2018 08:56 AM (oAlzZ)

69 *looks straight into camera*

They never listen to me.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 08:56 AM (fiGNd)

70 There went any promise of a semi-nice day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)

Induce vomiting, that should get them to leave.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 08:57 AM (3/sUh)

71 Can't do. They're on their way down from the mountains now. I am getting nauseous I'm so angry.

You probably came down with some virulent strain of the flu after being around all those elderly peeps in the nursing home. Call them off now before they have to be sequestered at the IHop.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 08:57 AM (YYYb4)

72 Induce vomiting, that should get them to leave.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 08:57 AM (3/sUh)


Great minds think alike. So do ours.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 08:58 AM (fiGNd)

73 What the heck kind of chemical makes your bobsled go faster?"

Tequila?
Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:48 AM

Teflon?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 24, 2018 08:58 AM (0dBoU)

74 I just signed up for 5 years of NRA membership, ...
Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (8INjy)


Life member for decades myself. Talked to the wife this morning about using a bit of our tax refund (yes, I know it's our money but Mrs. Cop prefers to over-withhold) about using a bit to buy a 5.56mm holder. Told her that if Democrats don't want me to have one, we should have one. Her reaction was, "Why didn't you buy one already?" and told her that I hadn't felt the need until now. She thinks it is a good idea, herself.

*ponders buying two*

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 08:58 AM (5Yee7)

75 I'm no weather-man ... but it sounds like Mr. D'ohs forecast is Mostly Frosty with a Zero Percent Chance of Lovin' later in the evening.
Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 08:53 AM (fiGNd)

The menu says hot tongue and cold shoulder to boot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 08:58 AM (3/sUh)

76 wisconsin has to be in the top ten of most braindead shitholes in the u.s. any state that keeps voting in tammy baldwin and paul ryan is fucking doomed. this place sucks ass.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 24, 2018 08:59 AM (KP5rU)

77 42 Misanthropic Humanitarian

It's the least I could do for all of the colorful commenters here. IMHO, best online community out there, by far.

I feel blessed with you, CDB, J.J. and Weird Dave as our CoBs. I've learned so much here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:59 AM (hyuyC)

78 Glad to see that conditions in England are so idyllic that the police can focus their attention on the scourge of vaping while driving.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:00 AM (sdi6R)

79 I've learned so much here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:59 AM (hyuyC)


You're welcome.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:00 AM (fiGNd)

80 Jane D'Oh

Sorry you are having a tough day.

But think, in a couple of years this will all have us laughing, as your story of this weekend gets more and more epic.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 09:01 AM (hyuyC)

81 *ponders buying two*

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 08:58 AM (5Yee7)

I've had a Ruger Mini for years....last year I bought a "black rifle".....just because.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:01 AM (0+nbW)

82 I've had a Ruger Mini for years....last year I bought a "black rifle".....just because.
Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:01 AM (0+nbW)


That saucy little Springfield Saint keeps looking at me seductively.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:02 AM (fiGNd)

83 Great job with the weird news, MisHum !


Pardon me while I vent about something that's been bothering me for a while, triggered by a pic of that repulsive s*itbird of a Florida sheriff:
What the actual eff is with sheriffs and police chiefs promoting themselves to FOUR BLANKETY STARS on their bleeping collars, anyway ?

/rant, thank you for your patience.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 09:02 AM (H0hPC)

84 ScoggDog

I don't think even my colorful Texas relatives are as shy as you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 09:02 AM (hyuyC)

85 Glad to see that conditions in England are so idyllic that the police can focus their attention on the scourge of vaping while driving.
Posted by: rickl

We have a lot of stupid laws in the states that the cops are expected to enforce instead of doing their jobs like protecting unarmed people.

Wait.....

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:03 AM (8ikIW)

86 Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 08:59 AM (hyuyC)

You're a good Moron.

A lifetime supply of &&&&&& for you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 09:03 AM (3/sUh)

87 83; penis envy? who knows. it's a joke.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 24, 2018 09:04 AM (KP5rU)

88 What the actual eff is with sheriffs and police chiefs promoting themselves to FOUR BLANKETY STARS on their bleeping collars, anyway ?


They figure that if they gonna be impotent, they might as well look impotent.

...Just the punchline...

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:04 AM (8ikIW)

89 Ret Buckeye Cop - what did we have here in OH, two days of sunshine this month?

Is homicidal or suicidal the way to go? Just wondering.

Texas beckons.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 08:50 AM (tr2D7)


Yes, it has been a gloomy month. Haven't been able to accomplish much outdoors, so far. See my post @74 about what I'm going to do to cheer myself up.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 09:05 AM (5Yee7)

90 Gun purchases for spite are often the most gratifying.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 09:05 AM (Sfs6o)

91 but now I am reading through reviews and there are quite a few that said it was all plastic, not very durable."

Well, it's not designed to handle cold rolled steel...

see if there's one on fleabay...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:05 AM (7LY+6)

92 I think Geraldo may be a bigger narcisisst than JEF.

Every comment he makes about the news he makes about himself.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 24, 2018 09:05 AM (EZebt)

93 I don't think even my colorful Texas relatives are as shy as you.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 09:02 AM (hyuyC)


Hell Salty ... as the great Warrior Poet Philosopher, "Superstar" Bill Dundee, used to say on Saturday Wrestling ... "If it's true, it ain't braggin' Daddy."

*grins*

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:05 AM (fiGNd)

94 First there is a consumable instant coffee here. It will have to do.

RBC yeah thinking another AR15 would be good to throw in the pond.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 09:06 AM (mn0Jm)

95 What the actual eff is with sheriffs and police chiefs promoting themselves to FOUR BLANKETY STARS on their bleeping collars, anyway ?

/rant, thank you for your patience.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
----
Oh, I thought this question was going to be hard.

It*s because he is the very model of a modern major general.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 09:06 AM (tr2D7)

96 FOUR BLANKETY STARS on their bleeping collars, anyway ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 09:02 AM (H0hPC)

Kinda humorous......I've never noticed any 3/2/1 stars at the press conferences. Where are they? Directing traffic?

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:06 AM (0+nbW)

97 Been pretty cloudy here in Texas as well.

But it's 71 right now at Casa mouse, so...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:06 AM (7LY+6)

98 Turns Vince Guaraldi music up loud & does Happy Dance!

& one more time for Happy Dance!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 09:06 AM (hyuyC)

99 90 Gun purchases for spite are often the most gratifying.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 09:05 AM (Sfs6o)


Thread-winner ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:07 AM (fiGNd)

100 Kinda humorous......I've never noticed any 3/2/1 stars at the press conferences. Where are they? Directing traffic?"

Number of award banquets.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:07 AM (7LY+6)

101 ...last year I bought a "black rifle".....just because.
Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:01 AM (0+nbW)

So did a lot of people, including yours truly.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at February 24, 2018 09:08 AM (3/sUh)

102 Here's a question...
Isn't the Florida shooter, Nikolas Cruz, adopted from Russia, hence the unusual spelling of his first name? Doesn't that mean that the Russians are involved and this is all a Russian conspiracy to take down Trump and control our elections/country???///

Posted by: lin-duh at February 24, 2018 09:08 AM (kufk0)

103
There went any promise of a semi-nice day.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 24, 2018 08:47 AM (JxYR+)
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((((((hugs + wine)))))))

Play a game with yourself: remain calm on the outside (as I'm sure you are) but imagine ever more gruesome and grand guignol tortures for these people.

Like, they're thrown into the arena (mine almost always involve an arena) in a meat suit and there are angry honey badgers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 09:09 AM (qJtVm)

104 Pardon me while I vent about something that's been bothering me for a while, triggered by a pic of that repulsive s*itbird of a Florida sheriff:
What the actual eff is with sheriffs and police chiefs promoting themselves to FOUR BLANKETY STARS on their bleeping collars, anyway ?

/rant, thank you for your patience.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 09:02 AM (H0hPC)


Most Chiefs of Police content themselves with Colonel's eagles. With what we are learning about Sheriff Israel and BSO, I'm sure he's wearing those stars as a form of waving his d!ck at the PD Chiefs.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 09:09 AM (5Yee7)

105 I saw a comment here last night that a way to make AR-15s look less evil would be to outfit it with a wooden stock and handguard. I think that would look pretty cool. Surely somebody has done that, just because.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (sdi6R)

106 & with that, I have to start my chores for today. & I have to explain all the dancing.

Have a wonderful weekend, everyone. Spring is within reach.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (hyuyC)

107 just don't try to return it for spite.

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (n13/j)

108 Doesn't that mean that the Russians are involved and this is all a Russian conspiracy to take down Trump and control our elections/country???///
Posted by: lin-duh at February 24, 2018 09:08 AM (kufk0)


They'll never get away with it. Not if Jennifer Lawrence has a damn thing to say about it !!!

Little known fact ... those plastic bracelets really mean What Would Jennifer Do ?

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (fiGNd)

109 Here's a question... "

Questions about the criminal, his past behaviors, and the local response to said behaviors are most unhelpful, and will result in your being visited by a CNN news crew, tvarish.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (7LY+6)

110 Not surprised if it's true that Scott Israel and the Broward school board cooked the books to get federal grant money. Would not be surprised at all. That would explain all the inaction neatly.

Sooo just joined the NRA and added two family members. I wonder if my 84 year old mom could use a camo bag too. Maybe I'll add her to the NRA too. Maybe my son's leftist gf. Let's see, who else can I pay for to join the NRA....

Posted by: Martell at February 24, 2018 09:11 AM (FXHV+)

111 Mornin' Horde...holy crap, Kilmeade tweeted that? I actually have a minimal amount of respect for him now...

Posted by: Brother Cavil, Penitent Cylon at February 24, 2018 09:11 AM (lLeln)

112 What Would Jennifer Do ?"

Flash her t....?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:12 AM (7LY+6)

113 106I saw a comment here last night that a way to make
AR-15s look less evil would be to outfit it with a wooden stock and
handguard. I think that would look pretty cool. Surely somebody has
done that, just because.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (sdi6R)
Ruger Mini-14?

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:12 AM (n13/j)

114 British streaker wearing a monkey penis pouch is the real hero of theOlympics


http://tinyurl.com/y8fh5smo

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 09:13 AM (oVJmc)

115 113 An AK from a furniture factory in Romania - I have one.

Posted by: rammajamma at February 24, 2018 09:13 AM (oAlzZ)

116 Surely somebody has done that, just because."

Blackgunswood.com

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:13 AM (7LY+6)

117 Not surprised if it's true that Scott Israel and the Broward school
board cooked the books to get federal grant money. Would not be
surprised at all. That would explain all the inaction neatly.


If only some eager young reporter wanting to make a name for themselves would start asking some prominent questions...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 09:14 AM (oVJmc)

118 I saw a comment here last night that a way to make AR-15s look less evil would be to outfit it with a wooden stock and handguard. I think that would look pretty cool. Surely somebody has done that, just because.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:10 AM (sdi6R)

now that you mention it





https://www.blackwoodusa.com/

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:14 AM (0+nbW)

119 Ruger Mini-14?
Posted by: quint

Works for me. I always appreciate the looks of the wood stock better then the black "plastic"

Even if it isn't as deadly

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:14 AM (8ikIW)

120 Let's see, who else can I pay for to join the NRA....
Posted by: Martell
----------

*raises hand*

Me! Me!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:14 AM (y3sT9)

121 114 British streaker wearing a monkey penis pouch is the real hero of theOlympics


http://tinyurl.com/y8fh5smo
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 09:13 AM (oVJmc)


Do not look at the right sidebar on that link.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:14 AM (sdi6R)

122 Ruger Mini-14?
Posted by: quint
---------

I've wanted one for years. Open bolters appeal to me.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:15 AM (y3sT9)

123 114 British streaker wearing a monkey penis pouch is the real hero of theOlympics


http://tinyurl.com/y8fh5smo
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Is the pouch made out of monkey penis? I wonder how many monkey penis' you would need?

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:16 AM (8ikIW)

124 cooked the books to get federal grant money."

No need to cook 'em - just fill 'em out for your money!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:16 AM (7LY+6)

125 I've wanted one for years. Open bolters appeal to me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:15 AM (y3sT9)


I like mine.

I think you give up some accuracy - gain some dependability.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:18 AM (fiGNd)

126 cooked the books to get federal grant money."


Hmmmm. One of the reasons my wife and her retired teacher friends have against standardized testing is that the kids will be taught the nothing but the test so the schools can receive their gubbmint money.

Seems as if the education community has a tendency towards cheating

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:19 AM (8ikIW)

127 I used to have a Ruger Mini-14 but I didn't like the accuracy at 100 yards and those little shells were hard to reload. So I traded it to my brother for a 03-A3 Springfield which was the most accurate rifle I ever owned. Then wound up trading it back for something else. I wish I had both back now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 09:19 AM (mpXpK)

128 119- Works for me. I always appreciate the looks of the wood stock better then the black "plastic"



Even if it isn't as deadly
----
yeah, and no bayonet lug

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:19 AM (n13/j)

129 They figure that if they gonna be impotent, they might as well look impotent.
...Just the punchline...
Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:04 AM (8ikIW)

Yup....in Floriduh, the County Sheriff's is only one step below the Governor in the Chain of Command. The County Councils do his budget and advise on yes or no for certain budget items, but the Sheriff works for the voters and the Governor.

Goes back to when there were not many towns/cities yet incorporated in the state, whereby the Sheriff was the only law enforcement.

Nowadays, it is the opposite. Most towns and cities in Florida have popo outfits so no real need for Sheriffs, but then back in the 80s they got smart and contracted with towns and cities to be their popo departments.

Broward County Sheriff's Office serves the county and several small towns that they suckered into providing "lower" cost popo service to for a fee. Of course once they suckered them in, it's hard to get out of the deal.

They are no different than the mob who are always on the look out for paying customers. The Schools also pay fees to the Sheriff to provide their SROs.

It's a racket.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 09:20 AM (EoRCO)

130 "Texas beckons."

Grass is greening, azaleas blooming...winter in the rear view mirror down here

Posted by: DanMan at February 24, 2018 09:20 AM (0SEK8)

131 yeah, and no bayonet lug
Posted by: quint

Hard to mount a chainsaw too

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 09:20 AM (8ikIW)

132 "76 wisconsin has to be in the top ten of most braindead shitholes in the u.s. any state that keeps voting in tammy baldwin and paul ryan is fucking doomed. this place sucks ass."

You should move to Arizona where they voted in those noted strong conservative Senators, John McCain and Jeff Flake. Well come to think of it half of the people in Arizona were born in Wisconsin. heh.

go grab a brew, it'll all seem better. It's the Wisconsin Way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 09:21 AM (V2Yro)

133 It's a racket.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy "

I guarantee that most don't know what you wrote about "sheriff" departments in the US. Once "cities" began development, "sheriff" departments became completely redundant...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:22 AM (7LY+6)

134 I used to have a Ruger Mini-14 but I didn't like the accuracy at 100 yards and those little shells were hard to reload.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 09:19 AM (mpXpK)


Ruger "updated" the Mini sometime around 2000 (not sure on the exact time). Improved accuracy a bit. There's a website somewhere that breaks down the serial numbers.

Easiest way to tell is to look at the barrel. Its got a "taper" now.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:23 AM (fiGNd)

135
I EARNED these four stars, buckaroos!

This one is for the Great Donut Sit-In back in '03. This one is for Best Penmanship on Grant Applications in '07, wait, '08. This one ...

Posted by: **** Steve Israel, Coward in Chief **** (TM) at February 24, 2018 09:23 AM (pNxlR)

136 Uncle Sam spent a lot of money teaching me to use an M16.

AR-15 is familiar.

Posted by: blaster at February 24, 2018 09:24 AM (mn0Jm)

137 Do not look at the right sidebar on that link.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:14 AM (sdi6R)
----
Too late.

Like Vesuvius.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 09:24 AM (qJtVm)

138 133 I guarantee that most don't know what you wrote
about "sheriff" departments in the US. Once "cities" began development,
"sheriff" departments became completely redundant...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 09:22 AM (7LY+6)

Not always. In GA where I grew up and here in SC city cops patrol only in the city limits and county cops from the Sheriff's department patrol outside the city limits in the county.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 09:24 AM (mpXpK)

139 127- Maybe a CMMP M1 Garand would split the difference.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:25 AM (n13/j)

140 Once "cities" began development, "sheriff" departments became completely redundant...
Posted by: Anon a mouse
------------

Depends on locality. In some jurisdictions, there are no 'city' police departments at all, because no cities large enough to warrant such.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:25 AM (nBBdT)

141 127- Maybe a CMMP M1 Garand would split the difference.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:25 AM (n13/j)


Embrace the Healing Power of AND, My Brother.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:26 AM (fiGNd)

142 110 Not surprised if it's true that Scott Israel and the Broward school
board cooked the books to get federal grant money. Would not be
surprised at all. That would explain all the inaction neatly.


Posted by: Martell

Sounds like a good case of fraud for the DOJ to prosecute, once Rip van Sessions finally finishes his power nap.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 24, 2018 09:26 AM (0ogQG)

143 On the way to other things last night, I tripped across a plot summary of *Alas, Babylon*. Part of it stated *Most of the government, on both sides, has been eliminated.*

As if that is a bad thing.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 09:27 AM (tr2D7)

144 Uncle Sam spent a lot of money teaching me to use an M16.

AR-15 is familiar.
Posted by: blaster
-----------

I feel the same way about the M14. I owe it to the taxpayers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:27 AM (Zdm89)

145 131 - Hard to mount a chainsaw too

There has to be an aftermarket chainsaw lug, check Brownells.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:28 AM (n13/j)

146 139
127- Maybe a CMMP M1 Garand would split the difference.




Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:25 AM (n13/j)

An M1 Garand is almost as accurate as one of those 03-A3s but the cost now is out of sight. But the 03-A3 is getting up there now too.

If I was to look at buying new auto-loader high power rifle now I think I would go with a Remington 742BDL.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 09:29 AM (mpXpK)

147 Depends on locality. In some jurisdictions, there are no 'city' police departments at all, because no cities large enough to warrant such.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:25 AM (nBBdT)

When I lived in Polk Co. the big city of Columbus (county seat) had 1 (one) police officer.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:29 AM (0+nbW)

148
Look for my position paper to issue shortly on sensible chainsaw controls.

Posted by: **** Steve Israel, Coward in Chief **** (TM) at February 24, 2018 09:29 AM (pNxlR)

149 Canada beats Czech Republic 6-4 for the bronze in hockey.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 09:30 AM (O5Q3r)

150 If I was to look at buying new auto-loader high power rifle now I think I would go with a Remington 742BDL.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 09:29 AM (mpXpK)


Nice.

Hell ... who am I kidding ? I like 'em all. I'm the damn Sandra Fluke of guns.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:31 AM (fiGNd)

151 So ~ who is the lucky actuary who gets to "run the numbers" on coming up with the correct premium to charge our lovely Argentinian weather lady to ensure her ~ ahem ~ ample derriere?

At this risk of straying further into "insurance humor" ~ let me just say: "I'd underwrite that risk!"

Posted by: Publius Redux at February 24, 2018 09:32 AM (gGiaq)

152 Not surprised if it's true that Scott Israel and the Broward school
board cooked the books to get federal grant money.
-----------

This will be my last comment in this vein, but the situation mirrors almost exactly what happened in the South during 'reconstruction'. This fellow Israel was 'installed' by carpet baggers from other places.

Those from other places rarely have the real interest of community or its culture at heart.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:32 AM (FJXGr)

153 Pretty clear that Scott Israel had long term plans for a congressional seat, if not the Governor's mansion. That's what he's been setting up all these years. At least those plans appear to all be gone with the wind.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 09:33 AM (V2Yro)

154 good morning ya'll

Posted by: TickledPink at February 24, 2018 09:33 AM (TL2pK)

155 I wish, just once, someone would ask the question "Tell me what 'enhanced background check' would have done to stop Cruz?"


Nothing was ever reported! THERE WAS NOTHING ON HIS RECORD!

Posted by: Tami Commenter at February 24, 2018 09:33 AM (Enq6K)

156 Depends on locality. In some jurisdictions, there are no 'city' police departments at all, because no cities large enough to warrant such.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:25 AM (nBBdT)

Yup....Broward and Dade counties were basically built out to the everglades by the early 90's but the Sheriff's in both counties, seeing their county area shrink and shrink, began hiring themselves out to local jurisdictions instead of being downsized or eliminated completely.

Once a town or city became a client, the costs to overturn the protection racket deal was to onerous budget wise to overcome, at least in the short term as their local popo was "absorbed" into the Sheriff's mob.

Just like Goodfellas.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 09:33 AM (EoRCO)

157 146 -An M1 Garand is almost as accurate as one of those
03-A3s but the cost now is out of sight. But the 03-A3 is getting up
there now too.

If I was to look at buying new auto-loader high power rifle now I think I would go with a Remington 742BDL.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 09:29 AM (mpXpK)Yeah, they are really up there. Most got them for a "decent" price from Civilian Marksmanship Program, but maybe they are gone now. I heard they have 1911s now, cool but I would bet they rattle. I don't know the Remington, but will check it out.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:34 AM (n13/j)

158
* phone rings *
Hello? Oh, Scot! What's that? Evicted from your on-campus trailer? Well, you resigned, Scot. No, it wasn't granted to you for life. What's that? You prevented a family of possums from setting up their home in a dumpster? No, that's not "preventing crime", but thanks anyway. Sorry, bud, but you will have to give up the trailer. Stop blubbering, Scot! Buh-bye!

Posted by: **** Steve Israel, Coward in Chief **** (TM) at February 24, 2018 09:35 AM (pNxlR)

159 Hey TickledPink - happy Saturday.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 09:35 AM (tr2D7)

160 Time to renew NRA memberships at stately VIA Manor.

Anybody got a link for the best price.

Not looking for life membership.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 09:35 AM (EyPfd)

161 From Hot Air (Yes! Yes! I know, but it's not about politics)

Archeologists may have just proved the existence of the prophet Isaiah. Cool!:

https://tinyurl.com/ybkju9ux

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 09:35 AM (8+Ozj)

162
Pretty clear that Scott Israel had long term plans for a congressional seat, if not the Governor's mansion. That's what he's been setting up all these years. At least those plans appear to all be gone with the wind.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 09:33 AM (V2Yro)






Normally I'd be giddy over watching a politician publicly destroy his political career in just a few days. If only it wasn't over a bunch of dead kids and teachers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 24, 2018 09:36 AM (eXA4G)

163 Hero dog protects his young owner from a burglar and dog gets shot in the process. Dog still recovering:

https://tinyurl.com/yaqtjvzz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 09:39 AM (8+Ozj)

164 So the cops are hell on earth cracking down on vapins in cars but get the vapors when confronting school shooters.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 09:39 AM (+y/Ru)

165 Pretty clear that Scott Israel had long term plans for a congressional seat, if not the Governor's mansion. That's what he's been setting up all these years. At least those plans appear to all be gone with the wind.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 09:33 AM (V2Yro)



Here's hoping it all blows up in his face. The left really jumped on this for political points with the usual NRA and guns are the problem BS. This should all fall in the lap of the FBI, cops and school and let them suffer the consequences of their stupidity and arrogance

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 09:40 AM (SiINZ)

166 I think Remington discontinued the 742 some years ago. The current model is a 7400....I think.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:40 AM (0+nbW)

167 Wondering where Starman and the Roadster are now? There's an app for that.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ydg9honh

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:40 AM (sdi6R)

168 This is a sweet story about a little girl and a teacher-Not related to shooting in Florida:

https://tinyurl.com/ybxun7gx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 09:42 AM (8+Ozj)

169 I get the feeling Krak was trying to get a point across this morning...

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 09:42 AM (SkuXa)

170 Time to renew NRA memberships at stately VIA Manor.

Anybody got a link for the best price.

Not looking for life membership.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 09:35 AM (EyPfd)

Some dealers include NRA membership w/firearm purchase....jus'sayin'.

Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:43 AM (0+nbW)

171
Any male Canadian hockey players doffing their bronze medals in disgust yet?

Posted by: [ This Space for Rent ] (TM) at February 24, 2018 09:44 AM (pNxlR)

172
I heard they have 1911s now, cool but I would bet they rattle.
Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:34 AM (n13/j)






A proper military 1911 is supposed to rattle a bit.

The last Master Sergeant I worked for in the Army was old-school Special Forces. Spent a lot of his career on ops in Central and South America, including with the Contras and the Salvadorans during the bad times in the early 80s.

He told us a story about how EVERY soldier/fighter/guerrilla in Latin America wants a pistol. It's a cultural thing down there: Pistol = El Jefe. And for a lot of those men, the 1911 was their introduction to pistols.

So when he was training the Contras, they got a bunch of pistols from different sources and international arms dealers. Problem was, they were mostly tightly fitted modern pieces rather than the 1911s that the Contras wanted. They were miffed because they associated rattle with reliability. And that was more important than extreme accuracy.

So the piled the pistols on tables and the Contras would examine them one by one, shaking them like they were trying to strangle them. No rattle, they'd toss them back into the crate with a "no bueno".

When they got a maraca gun, they'd smile hugely "Ahhhhhhh, bueno!" And walk away with their new pistola.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 24, 2018 09:46 AM (eXA4G)

173 Good morning all. One little factoid I heard, but did not confirm, was that Broward County Sheriff's Office is the largest in the US. Bigger is better and better able to hide the financial shennanigans. We taxpayers have been paying for this nonsense for years in our schools. Bigger 'consolidated' districts will save money! Bigger schools, more services, etc. Doesn't work that way because the weight of the bureaucracy drags everything down. I think Chicago Public Schools, just to name one, have more employees than students. We are the stupid suckers.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 09:48 AM (MIKMs)

174
Please note that the county's 911 lines will not be answered during the hours of 9:30 - 10:00 AM, 6:30 - 7:00 PM and 1:30 - 2:00 AM each day because of contract-mandated breaks for coffee and donuts. We appreciate your understanding in this matter.

Posted by: Broward County Sheriff's Office: Running from Danger for You! (TM) at February 24, 2018 09:49 AM (pNxlR)

175 I've been thinking about getting a black rifle but there is no room in the safe for it. What to do?

Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 09:54 AM (uAlm4)

176 172 - cool story. Yeah agreed reliability is number one, and they are plenty accurate for task at hand. They say the loose 1911s in ww2 were a heck of a lot more reliable than the German stuff that was built like a Swiss watch and failed if they got dirty. re. Mauser pistol.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 09:55 AM (n13/j)

177 I've been thinking about getting a black rifle but there is no room in the safe for it. What to do?
Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 09:54 AM (uAlm4)


Ha !!! Got the same problem ... and I'm dead-set on that Ruger PC, as well as the Springfield Saint.

First world issues, baby.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (fiGNd)

178 There is a rumor out there that the Broward county Sheriff office was warehousing stolen goods instead of reporting them.
My experience tells me that when there are unreported and unaccountable goods being warehoused, they tend to get sold out the back door.

I wonder if there was a fencing operation going on there, by the good deputies, too.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (2K6fY)

179 175 I've been thinking about getting a black rifle but there is no room in the safe for it. What to do?

Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 09:54 AM (uAlm4)
get a bigger safe?.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl HAPPY SPRING TRAINING DAY! at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (0O7c5)

180 http://bit.ly/2EPSXTW
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STUNNING FBI NEVER Contacted YouTube After Nikolas Cruz Left "Professional School Shooter" Threat
------------
Are you shitting Me ?! I am not a tinfoil conspiracy theorist, But this has me really trying to figure out a reasonable explanation

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (y3aQB)

181 These cryptic subject lines don't pique my interest.

Posted by: Michael Rittenhouse at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (+Abq4)

182 Are you shitting Me ?! I am not a tinfoil conspiracy theorist, But this has me really trying to figure out a reasonable explanation

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (y3aQB)

it's like they wanted this to happen.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (0O7c5)

183 Scott Israel's academic qualification: Bachelor's degree in Political Science.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (y3sT9)

184 I said it last night and here it is again.

Fight this anti-NRA fervor right now.

That CNN thing Tapper hosted the other night was just the kickoff, and it's gonna score. Already has. Look at how the little ninnies at Hertz and other companies jumped on it.

Do a web search, find out who other than Hertz and Fedex cut their business deals with the NRA. Then write those companies and tell them you are done with them.

The easiest way is to use Twitter. Twitter's search engine will take you right to their account quickly.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (5OEn4)

185 "What to do?"

Second/Bigger safe.

Come on people...I can't solve the worlds problems by myself.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (EyPfd)

186 I've been thinking about getting a black rifle but there is no room in the safe for it. What to do?
Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 09:54 AM (uAlm4)


OOO! OOO!

*raises hand*

That's easy: buy another safe!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 10:00 AM (5Yee7)

187 The brilliant ex-military gun grabber, Ralph Peters, on TV now calling for a ban to "assault weapons".

Kiss my ass, Ralph.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 10:01 AM (fiGNd)

188 "it's like they wanted this to happen..... "


I'm trending towards the "If they didn't exist, they would have to be created' school of thought.

These soulless ghouls who advocating slicing and dicing unborn children as a form of birth control/income stream have no moral issue with the death of children by gunfire in order to support their consolidation of power.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:01 AM (EyPfd)

189 We are pleased to announce that the rates of heart disease inn Broward County have been markedly reduced since introduction of our Diversionary Chest Pain clinic. Patients presenting to the ER with chest pain, instead of getting an ECG, will be diverted to a pre-intervention counselling session, a risk-assessment coach and will be asked to "hug it out" with a cardiologist.

The morgue has agreed to pick up any slack or overflow.

Posted by: Broward County Health Department at February 24, 2018 10:01 AM (wPiJc)

190 184- Les Kinetic

I have to at least appreciate the rental companies for sniveling tactics. They bloody all dropped the NRA together, makes it harder to move your business. Looks like time to go with local independent companies. IMO, I would call the bullies and speak with someone, but i am old school.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 10:03 AM (n13/j)

191 179 - get a bigger safe?

It's the largest Liberty safe they make. And I already have another safe, it's full of ammo. ( and powder and primers)

Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 10:04 AM (uAlm4)

192 I had no problem with sending Enterprise an e-mail explaining that they will never see another dime of my business.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:04 AM (EyPfd)

193 Ralph Peters is beclowning himself on Fox right now. Strawmen, red herrings and false choices abound.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:05 AM (+Tibp)

194 It's the largest Liberty safe they make. And I already have another safe, it's full of ammo. ( and powder and primers)

Posted by: JimK
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Cargo container?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 10:05 AM (c/EDo)

195 Brrrrrrrr

it's cold.

Posted by: TickledPink at February 24, 2018 10:05 AM (TL2pK)

196 'It's the largest Liberty safe they make.'


Do they offer another one for sale exactly like it?

Each end of the sofa.

Put a lamp on top for ambiance.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:06 AM (EyPfd)

197 Peters came out and said it ... he wants a ban on all semi-automatic weapons.

Go for it, Ralph.

But Hey ... I'm in a "look on the bright-side" mood. When Ralph and his ilk make their play - and we divide this country up because of it - I'm assuming we'll stick the losers with the 20 Trillion in debt as we start up a new currency.

I'm for naming the new "dollar" after John Moses Browning.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 10:06 AM (fiGNd)

198 Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (0O7c5)
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There is NO reasonable explanation that I can think of

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 10:06 AM (y3aQB)

199 Ralph Peters definitely belongs in the category of people that Trump broke. What a prick.

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 10:06 AM (SkuXa)

200
Newly retired BSO employees are urged to check out the many benefits of our retirees' group at

http://www.bsoretirees.com

(Scot Peterson - this means you!)

Posted by: Broward County Sheriff's Office: Running from Danger for You! (TM) at February 24, 2018 10:06 AM (pNxlR)

201 Is there a list of the companies who have dropped their association with the NRA?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 10:07 AM (YYYb4)

202 You guys are a riot. Glad it's not in my living room.

Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 10:07 AM (uAlm4)

203 Our plumber collects firearms.

Last I heard, he actually had to upgrade the joists under the first floor with steel beams.

He's a serious kinda guy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:08 AM (EyPfd)

204 Ralph Peters is beclowning himself on Fox right now. Strawmen, red herrings and false choices abound.
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NeverTrumper & Desk Clerk warrior

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 10:08 AM (y3aQB)

205 Ralph Peters is beclowning himself on Fox right now. Strawmen, red herrings and false choices abound.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:05 AM (+Tibp)



Ralph lost it over Trump and has now gone completely off the rail.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 10:09 AM (SiINZ)

206 Is there a list of the companies who have dropped their association with the NRA?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 10:07 AM (YYYb4)



Yahoo Finance had a story about them yesterday.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at February 24, 2018 10:10 AM (SiINZ)

207 The brilliant ex-military gun grabber, Ralph Peters, on TV now calling for a ban to "assault weapons".

I wonder what the average price tag is for buying off these ex-military gun-grabbers who should know better?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 24, 2018 10:10 AM (Tyii7)

208 192 I had no problem with sending Enterprise an e-mail explaining that they will never see another dime of my business.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:04 AM (EyPfd)

___

Here's the problem though...

The people monitoring the inbox / twitter account for Enterprise are 26 year old SJWs. They will delete your email. But the ones screaming about the NRA will get forwarded to a manager/director/VP.

I saw this happening personally with a client of mine over Thursday and Friday. And as far as Twitter goes, they were getting 100s a minute all day long asking for an NRA boycott.

I was astonished with the way the left co-ordinated that attack.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:10 AM (6nRrz)

209 "Are you shitting Me ?! I am not a tinfoil conspiracy theorist, But this has me really trying to figure out a reasonable explanation."

Nah, there's nothing complicated or hard to figure out about this at all. It's just a matter of priorities - them donuts ain't gonna eat themselves, ya know.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 10:11 AM (V2Yro)

210 Linked through Babalu Blog



Socialism may be 'cool' to CNN, but not so cool to those who suffered and died because of it

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8mmo3og





(Pull Quote: "My grandmother only escaped this torture when she, along with the Russian man who would become my grandfather, were kidnapped by the Nazis and taken to Germany as slave labor. Thus, they stopped living the Soviet Socialist dream and began experiencing the National Socialist dream, instead.")

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 10:11 AM (2K6fY)

211 206 Is there a list of the companies who have dropped their association with the NRA?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 10:07 AM (YYYb4)

____

If you can stomach it, go to ThinkProgress, they're the ones that started the whole thing and have a running list with the ones that caved and the ones that are still on board.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:11 AM (6nRrz)

212 http://bit.ly/2ESnD6R
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Wife works at
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His wife, Katherine McIntire Peters, is the Deputy Editor of Government Executive Media Group, a division of Atlantic Media.[2]










Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 10:11 AM (y3aQB)

213 ralph peters has been a complete dumbass since 9/11. no credibilty at all. probably a muzzie convert like the rest. a typical fox "expert." like shep.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at February 24, 2018 10:12 AM (KP5rU)

214 How in the fcuk are we losing to these people?

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=375960

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:12 AM (EyPfd)

215 203
Our plumber collects firearms.



Last I heard, he actually had to upgrade the joists under the first floor with steel beams.




My former BIL built the section of the house where my two safes are parked. He is a master builder so I'm not too worried. Tho I do watch for any cracks in the outside wall...

Posted by: JimK at February 24, 2018 10:12 AM (uAlm4)

216 ralph peters - just a Bill Kristol who wore a uniform once upon a time.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 10:13 AM (V2Yro)

217 I hope Delta and Enterprise /National Car rental feel the sting of their decision to drop the NRA discounts. I know I will avoid them at all costs.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 10:13 AM (2DOZq)

218 Ah, Marie Harf. The hulking dullard sorority girl.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:14 AM (+Tibp)

219 214 How in the fcuk are we losing to these people?

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=375960
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:12 AM (EyPfd)

___

I've always thought whenever a Marxist says something like that the response should be, I fully agree with should ban XYZ. You want to ban high magazine clips and things that go up, let's do it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:15 AM (6nRrz)

220 I wonder what the average price tag is for buying off these ex-military gun-grabbers who should know better?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 24, 2018 10:10 AM (Tyii7)


My guess ? Not much. That guy didn't make Lt. Col. by bucking the system.

Somebody said it yesterday - Bezerker maybe - that the enlisted guys he knew would call "bullshit" on any gun grab. I'll buy that. But I can see the Staff Officers thinking it's a great idea.

Somebody else said something I agree with as well. I think the Urban Police Departments would go for a gun grab. Small Town and Rural Police wouldn't. The guys where I live wouldn't.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 10:16 AM (fiGNd)

221 The hulking dullard sorority girl.
=====

Did you know that there are a lot of discounts offered to sorority/fraternity members? You know, the campus rapists. /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 10:16 AM (MIKMs)

222 "211 206 Is there a list of the companies who have dropped their association with the NRA?"

The NRA needs to have the stones to put this list out to every member and organize member-led boycotts of these companies. The NRA needs to launch a very strong counter attack, to let corps know that there is a price to be paid for their actions. A literal price.

The NRA also needs to have the stones to instantly fire anyone inside their organization that doesn't think this is absolutely necessary for their survival, and I'm guessing there's several.

Just like the Trump and the republicans, the first step in any war is to get rid of all the traitors inside your own ranks first.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 10:16 AM (V2Yro)

223 A quick check of the Remington site shows they no longer make the 742-BDL. I don't know what I would go with now. They do make an R-15 which is available in an assortment of calibers including the 30-06. It retails for ~$1200.00

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 10:17 AM (mpXpK)

224 i think im gonna make strawberry bbq sauce

Posted by: TickledPink at February 24, 2018 10:18 AM (TL2pK)

225 Brother says of all this shit going on- dude quit looking for black helicopters.

I'm worried because
A) I see squadrons of black helicopters
B) BSG sounds like my brother.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 10:18 AM (89T5c)

226 >>>Hummmmmmmmm

Maybe mass self-hypnosis.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 10:19 AM (/qEW2)

227 How in the fcuk are we losing to these people?

https://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=375960

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It's racist and sexist to disparage her or her opinion merely because she has no idea what she's talking about.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:19 AM (+y/Ru)

228 "Somebody else said something I agree with as well. I think the Urban Police Departments would go for a gun grab. Small Town and Rural Police wouldn't. The guys where I live wouldn't."

Oh yeah, even in Texas the big cities are all dominated by the black-mexican-sjw caucus now. That's why they love to say "all big city police departments are in favor of (whatever SJW bullshit they're pushing at the moment)" That's why the Sherrif of Dallas from 2005 - 2017 was a lesbian mexican.

but they don't have any authority, or influence, outside their own city limits, and that really pisses them off.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 24, 2018 10:20 AM (V2Yro)

229 Brother says of all this shit going on- dude quit looking for black helicopters.

I'm worried because
A) I see squadrons of black helicopters
B) BSG sounds like my brother.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 10:18 AM (89T5c)


You're just harshing your brother's mellow.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 10:20 AM (fiGNd)

230 Anyone remember a movie called Dementia 13? Coppola's first. Not bad for a really cheap horror movie of the day. Cool spooky music.

Anyhoo, on Comet there's a movie on called Portrait in Terror. Same actors. Same music. Same cinematographer, evidently. Maybe shot both at same time to save $$$?

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:21 AM (+Tibp)

231 Someone said yesterday that Marie Harf's biggest problem is that her mouth is empty.

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 10:22 AM (SkuXa)

232 Companies that so far are telling SJWS to fuck off:

FedEx
Google/YouTube (for how long I wonder)
Harland Clarke Direct Selling Solutions
HotelPlanner.com
Lockton Affinity
MidwayUSA
NetSpend
OmniHotels
Roku (surprised with this one)
United Airlines
Vinesse Wines

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:22 AM (6nRrz)

233 It's racist and sexist to disparage her or her opinion merely because she is the stereotypical blonde bimbo with big tits that will likely put out after the interview if you chat her up with compliments and has no idea what she's talking about.

But mostly because she has no idea of what she's talking about.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at February 24, 2018 10:23 AM (YYYb4)

234 Good morning, Horde!
If anyone is suffering from low blood pressure, head over to Conservative Treehouse. There's a complete takedown of the Broward County policies of not reporting minority crime. Of course, it goes back to Obama and Holder and was even the reason St. Trayvon didn't have a record.
Too long for me to expound on here, and I'm sick with anger.
Other than that, good morning, Horde!

Posted by: RI Redline at February 24, 2018 10:23 AM (QjpM/)

235 HotelPlanner.com hurts me. I've been building up some credits there. Ouch

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:23 AM (+Tibp)

236 It sounds like there are no options left for rental cars. In my area, practically every auto dealership has an Enterprise next to it. I had one of their cars a couple of months ago when mine was in the shop.

(It was hit by a hot-dogging dumbass while it was parked at work. The guy went around a curve, lost control, and spun out. From the damage on his car, it was going nearly backwards when it hit mine. It was a sunny day and a dry road. You have to go out of your way to lose control under those conditions.

My car had $4000 worth of damage and was in the shop for three weeks. It was over the holidays, which no doubt added to the time required to repair it.)

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 10:24 AM (sdi6R)

237 I'd like to activate Argentinian weather girl's policy.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 10:27 AM (ywNoU)

238 I know this is crazy ... but I'm going to go counter to the advice of The Honorable Ralph Peters ... and go look at one of those scary magazine-fed monsters with the thing that goes up.

And then go to the range. I wonder if Ralph will let me keep my revolver ? Man - I sure hope so.

Scogg Out.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 10:27 AM (fiGNd)

239 Strange days. It's not law enforcement's job to protect kids and it's not journalism's job to tell the truth.

Incidentally, Dana Loesch has a tweet about the sheriff deputies' disinclination to enter the school:

Dana Loesch
@DLoesch
While sitting next to me at the town hall, the sheriff called this "standing up for students."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:28 AM (+y/Ru)

240 HotelPlanner.com hurts me. I've been building up some credits there. Ouch

So far they AREN'T caving.

I misread it initially too.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 24, 2018 10:28 AM (bZ7mE)

241 166 I think Remington discontinued the 742 some years ago. The current model is a 7400....I think.
Posted by: BignJames at February 24, 2018 09:40 AM (0+nbW

Bign, that's mostly correct. 7400 is now "obsolete". Don't know what took its place.
I have a 7400 in .243. Sweet shooter; it's taken many a hog and all head shots at distance. I even found some 10 round steel mags, instead of the standard 4 round.

Posted by: RI Redline at February 24, 2018 10:29 AM (QjpM/)

242 I misread it initially too.
Posted by: Grey Fox

Oh, thank the Lord! I've got a graduation in May to go to.

Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:29 AM (+Tibp)

243
That poor Ruskie bobsledder needs to be consoled. "



Look at the Horde willing to go all out for folks they don't even know...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at February 24, 2018 08:40 AM (7LY+6)

She does look like a forlorn waif in need of consoling.

Sort of makes me wonder if the Russian drug tests are being sabotaged.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (Dbv1R)

244 Re AR-15s, Classic Firearms has the DPMS Oracle flattop for $449. That was a $700 rifle a few years ago.

Posted by: RI Redline at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (QjpM/)

245 SAN JOSE -Tony Hicks moved to San Jose in 1981, but he's had enough.

Hicks told his 11 tenants he would soon place the three homes he owns on the market. He expected disappointment. Instead, most wanted to move with him to Colorado.


*Gets to Colorado

"Back in San Jose they did this, and this, and this. I need to run for office and make them do that here"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (wdmm9)

246 235 HotelPlanner.com hurts me. I've been building up some credits there. Ouch
Posted by: Blutarski-esque 0.0 at February 24, 2018 10:23 AM (+Tibp)

___

No. They are on the list that has NOT caved.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:32 AM (6nRrz)

247 So, some nice news. Youngest will graduate in May (civil engineering) and head of dept is sending her resume with recommendations to Chicago firms. Makes me happy because the poor kidlet is stuck supporting her elderly parent.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 10:33 AM (MIKMs)

248 Did somebody say, "I wonder what Beavis and Butthead are thinking?"

Mika Brzezinski
@morningmika
I hope @FedEx does the right thing and stops propping up the NRA. They incite violence with their ads and attack America's law enforcement officers. I support businesses that support our American heroes and will not support businesses who make their jobs harder.

Joe Scarborough
@JoeNBC
Thank you for supporting America's law enforcement officers. The NRA's continued attacks on those brave citizens who protect us every day from terror attacks is shameful.
Our heroes deserve more!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:33 AM (+y/Ru)

249
Best response to the Marie Harf! Harf! Harf! story -

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y9on8b57

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 10:33 AM (pNxlR)

250 Thank you for supporting America's law enforcement officers. The NRA's continued attacks on those brave citizens who protect us every day from terror attacks is shameful.
Our heroes deserve more!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:33 AM (+y/Ru)

Heroes, eh? Like the Broward County Sherrif's deputies who cowered behind their cars with their dicks in their hands while an active shooter murdered 17 students? If that's heroism, being me cowards.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 10:35 AM (ywNoU)

251 "Back in San Jose they did this, and this, and this. I need to run for office and make them do that here"Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (wdmm9)

the story of red and formerly red states

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 24, 2018 10:35 AM (0O7c5)

252 251 "Back in San Jose they did this, and this, and this. I need to run for office and make them do that here"Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (wdmm9)

the story of red and formerly red states
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 24, 2018 10:35 AM (0O7c5)

See, e.g., Broward and Miami-Dade counties.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 10:35 AM (ywNoU)

253 One day cops are KKK members who roam the streets looking for blacks to shoot. The next they are heroes.

The liberal mind is fascinating to observe.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:36 AM (6nRrz)

254 243
Sort of makes me wonder if the Russian drug tests are being sabotaged.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (Dbv1R)


I wonder how accurate the tests are. How many false positives do they get?

I sure hope they're not being run by the FBI crime lab.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 10:36 AM (sdi6R)

255 254 243
Sort of makes me wonder if the Russian drug tests are being sabotaged.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (Dbv1R)

I wonder how accurate the tests are. How many false positives do they get?

I sure hope they're not being run by the FBI crime lab.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 10:36 AM (sdi6R)

Not possible. They're getting the results back in less than ten years.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 10:36 AM (ywNoU)

256 'Best response to the Marie Harf! Harf! Harf! story -'

A classic blast from the past.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:37 AM (EyPfd)

257 Hmmmmmm

It lives just beyond your Space/Time Continuum... That sound you hear?.... That's how close the machinery is, to making a breakthrough... It's hungry, and you're on the menu.

Posted by: franksalterego at February 24, 2018 10:37 AM (3cq8T)

258 232 - I don't think you will need to worry about Midway USA, so there is one at least.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 10:37 AM (n13/j)

259 254 243
Sort of makes me wonder if the Russian drug tests are being sabotaged.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (Dbv1R)

I wonder how accurate the tests are. How many false positives do they get?

I sure hope they're not being run by the FBI crime lab.
Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 10:36 AM (sdi6R)

Maybe they're using those field tests that show donut glaze to be meth and green tea to be marijuana. The Olympics committee has been repeatedly shown to be corrupt as hell, so nothing would surprise me.

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 10:38 AM (ywNoU)

260 One day cops are KKK members who roam the streets looking for blacks to shoot. The next they are heroes.
The liberal mind is fascinating to observe.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:36 AM (6nRrz)


Good Point!!!!...I am going to use that one.

marxists hate when you out dialectic them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 24, 2018 10:38 AM (EoRCO)

261 That Mika quote sounds like Mary Cloggenstein

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 10:39 AM (2K6fY)

262 Yes Anon, but now I am reading through reviews and
there are quite a few that said it was all plastic, not very durable.
Well, shit. Maybe I should just get a simple dremel and nothing fancy.
After all, I really just want to drill a hole in the bottom of the
bullet casing. I just thought the other bells and whistles would come
in handy if I ever got more involved in making certain pieces.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 08:55 AM (dUJdY)

Dremels run really, really fast. Some have speed controls to slow them down, though. But you don't want to use a fast drill speed for drilling brass, like a spent cartridge case. Much too easy for the drill bit to get snagged in the metal, and spin the case out of whatever is holding it. You could be hurt.
I'd recommend getting a small cordless drill, and a set of drill bits. Should run you less than the Dremel, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:39 AM (Dbv1R)

263 Father Of Another Student Says CNN Tried To Get Her To Spin An 'Agenda' For Town Hall

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:39 AM (+y/Ru)

264 @253

What's so funny is that the left is all for the "young people" leading the charge in gun control and leading the conversation and blah blah.

But, when the people in that very school are talking about how the deputies hid and didn't come in to save them.....well, no one wants to listen to that.

Posted by: TickledPink at February 24, 2018 10:39 AM (TL2pK)

265 180 http://bit.ly/2EPSXTW
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STUNNING FBI NEVER Contacted YouTube After Nikolas Cruz Left "Professional School Shooter" Threat
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Are you shitting Me ?! I am not a tinfoil conspiracy theorist, But this has me really trying to figure out a reasonable explanation
Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (y3aQB)



*tinfoil hat ON!*

Look at Fast and Furious under Obama and Holder.

It was a giveaway of "assault weapons", etc to Mexican Drug Gangs with the hope that they would use those weapons to commit murder (of American citizens as well as Mexican) and thus bolster the call for gun control.

Is it so difficult to believe that the same people who thought that was a great idea, who conceived that idea and who financed that idea-

would encourage lunatic a-holes (or worse fund them, etc) to shoot up schools and/or outdoor events in red state or conservative areas to bolster the call for gun control?

Bonus Question: Explain the non-explanation of the Las Vegas murder spree.

Double Bonus Question: Is the rumor true or false that Soros made a huge killing with put orders on MGM stock right after the shooting?

*tinfoil hat OFF!*

Rumors are not facts, so I have no idea whether anything about that is true or not. And opinions are just opinions.

But Fast and Furious appears to have been a direct effort to create criminal action (murder) for political purposes.

With the Left, the ends always justify the means.

How many Obamites are still in powerful positions in the FBI?

How many eggs should be broken to get gun control?

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 10:40 AM (9q7Dl)

266 I really liked that rather offhand comment by Power Line that if someone finds a white supremacist to hold on to it so they can meet it.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 10:40 AM (MIKMs)

267 I just spent the better part of an hour watching a young adult red tailed hawk perched on a tree limb in my back yard. We have a lot of ivy and it's a great habitat for chipmunks so he must have been looking for a snack.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (Sfs6o)

268 Morning all! And it's GOLD for the US men's curling team!!!! Ha, to all you curling haters!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (70cRb)

269 And Harf was a CIA analyst. You'd think someone with that background would know better.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (/qEW2)

270 Glad to see that conditions in England are so
idyllic that the police can focus their attention on the scourge of
vaping while driving.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 09:00 AM (sdi6R)

It seems to be a thing amongst a certain class of hipster douches, to make huge clouds of vapor while vaping. Ordinary people vaping seem to manage to do it very onobtrusively.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (Dbv1R)

271 There was a cop who actually did run towards the gunfire. He was off duty, unarmed, and out of uniform. His wife is the assistant AD at the high school.

He encountered a wounded student and rendered first aid. Then when a Coral Springs SWAT officer showed up he took the SWAT officer's sidearm and went in to clear the building with him.

But do continue to praise the cowards of Broward.

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 10:43 AM (SkuXa)

272 'You'd think someone with that background would know better.'

Maybe many years ago, your statement would be valid.

But that argument flew out the window several years ago.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (EyPfd)

273 268 Morning all! And it's GOLD for the US men's curling team!!!! Ha, to all you curling haters!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (70cRb)


Hair Dressing is an Olympic event?

Huh.


Well, live and learn.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (9q7Dl)

274 220
I think the Urban Police Departments would go for a gun grab. Small Town and Rural Police wouldn't.

Posted by: ScoggDog at February 24, 2018 10:16 AM (fiGNd)


The deep purple suburbs are sure going to be interesting when the SHTF. That's where I live.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (sdi6R)

275 And Harf was a CIA analyst.

-
Sparrow?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (+y/Ru)

276 This guy really really likes covfefe.

Posted by: eleven at February 24, 2018 10:45 AM (+lOpA)

277 275 And Harf was a CIA analyst.

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Sparrow?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (+y/Ru)

That's.. ANAL... yst...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 10:45 AM (NgKpN)

278 Morning all! And it's GOLD for the US men's curling team!!!! Ha, to all you curling haters!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (70cRb)
love 12oz curls

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 10:46 AM (n13/j)

279 Hair Dressing is an Olympic event?

Huh.


Well, live and learn.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (9q7Dl)

You're just jealous!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:46 AM (70cRb)

280 Correction - broad winged hawk. Buteo platypterus.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:47 AM (Sfs6o)

281 Morning all! And it's GOLD for the US men's curling team!!!! Ha, to all you curling haters!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (70cRb)


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Curling is the Special Olympics version of hockey.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 10:47 AM (/qEW2)

282 Sgt. Jeff Heinrich was off duty and working on the Stoneman Douglas field when shots rang out.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wsvn/status/967153133267931136/video/1

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 10:47 AM (x25VP)

283 How 'bout we just put up a version of the headline of the story so we can decide if we want to click on it before we click on it.

Posted by: Dang at February 24, 2018 10:48 AM (8b+oT)

284 Nobody likes my hawk story.
*sniff*

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:48 AM (Sfs6o)

285 279 Hair Dressing is an Olympic event?

Huh.


Well, live and learn.
Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 10:44 AM (9q7Dl)

You're just jealous!
Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:46 AM (70cRb)

Next up? Pairs Hair straightening... and it looks like America has a very strong team...

Right here on ESPN 8... the Ocho...

Posted by: Don Q. at February 24, 2018 10:48 AM (NgKpN)

286 Buteo platypterus.
Posted by: Weasel
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Same to you fella!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 10:50 AM (tr2D7)

287
Maybe I should just get a simple dremel and nothing fancy.
After all, I really just want to drill a hole in the bottom of the
bullet casing. I just thought the other bells and whistles would come
in handy if I ever got more involved in making certain pieces.

Posted by: Jewells45 at February 24, 2018 08:55 AM (dUJdY)


Jewells, you really want a flex shaft tool with variable speed control, usually foot operated. Adjusting the speed on a Dremmel is difficult to do as you are working. I've used both and the flex shaft tool is easily your better choice.

On ebay now there is such a tool and accessories available for under $80. Look for "SE 979FSG Flexible Shaft Grinder Chuck Pedal Switch".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 10:51 AM (pNxlR)

288 Hair Dressing is an Olympic event?

You're thinking of men's figure skating.

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:51 AM (70cRb)

289 After reading in the sidebar about CNN's lynch mob it would have been appropriate for them to fully embrace their Democrat roots and have a burning cross onstage.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad. at February 24, 2018 10:51 AM (A7/qB)

290 245
SAN JOSE -Tony Hicks moved to San Jose in 1981, but he's had enough.



Hicks told his 11 tenants he would soon place the three homes he
owns on the market. He expected disappointment. Instead, most wanted to
move with him to Colorado.





*Gets to Colorado



"Back in San Jose they did this, and this, and this. I need to run for office and make them do that here"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 24, 2018 10:31 AM (wdmm9)

Reminds me of this guy who came down from NY to out plant here in SC. One night he was griping about the local school programs and community activities available. I asked him what his property rtaxes were there. He said something like $7,000/year. and then i asked what his property taxes were here. I asked him what his property taxes were here, don't know I rent now he said. I told him mie were $500/year.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 10:52 AM (mpXpK)

291 Here's the thing. I don't like it when people "jump the gun" on judgement. In any situation. Trayvon Martin for example.

So, I'm not going to pile onto the 3 additional deputies, because for all I know, they were following some sort of order. Maybe their training dictates a more talk-down resolution. Maybe they thought storming the building would escalate things and make things worse.

But the school resource officer....taxpayers are paying to have an officer on the premises of these schools for the safety of the students. It was his job to step in. It wasn't his job to assess the situation. It was his job to be a law enforcement presence on that campus.

So, I'm not going to call anyone a coward...not yet anyway, not without knowing all the facts. Not without hearing their side of the story.

But, I am glad the resource officer resigned....clearly he wasn't cut out for it.

Posted by: TickledPink at February 24, 2018 10:52 AM (TL2pK)

292 Heroes, eh? Like the Broward County Sherrif's
deputies who cowered behind their cars with their dicks in their hands
while an active shooter murdered 17 students? If that's heroism, being
me cowards.

Posted by: Insomniac
...

Sgt. Jeff Heinrich was off duty and working on the Stoneman Douglas field when shots rang out.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wsvn/status/967153133267931136/video/1

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 10:53 AM (x25VP)

293
286 Buteo platypterus.
Posted by: Weasel
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Same to you fella!
Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 10:50 AM (tr2D7)
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Oh yeah?!
I live in a very urban setting with a surprising amount of wildlife. Deer and foxes (foxii?) are fairly common.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:53 AM (Sfs6o)

294 Hah. The Broward County Retirees Ass. Presidents name is.....John Lawless.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 10:53 AM (RZWC0)

295 Curling is the Special Olympics version of hockey.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at February 24, 2018 10:47 AM (/qEW2)

Cannibal Bob is laughing his a$$ off. I am not amused-I have a selfie with the US coach. Mock me at your peril, sir!

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:53 AM (70cRb)

296 Well, I can't just sit here. I have to do something.

That would be either clean house or shovel snow.

Crap. I need the exercise. I hate exercise.

What do we get here, on saturday? Chess and movies, and what else?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 24, 2018 10:54 AM (roQNm)

297 Nobody likes my hawk story. *sniff*
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On the way to some silly family event, kidlet and I almost ran off the road because some eagles nested in a high tree stump. We didn't have to time to go back to read the notices, but we both looked it up when we got home.

Nice to see some of the raptors returning.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 10:54 AM (MIKMs)

298 Bluto Platypus

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 10:54 AM (IqV8l)

299 234
If anyone is suffering from low blood pressure, head over to Conservative Treehouse. There's a complete takedown of the Broward County policies of not reporting minority crime. Of course, it goes back to Obama and Holder and was even the reason St. Trayvon didn't have a record.
Posted by: RI Redline at February 24, 2018 10:23 AM (QjpM/)


Yup. And the irony is that this particular Cruz wasn't even ethnically Hispanic, but the mere fact of his name would have added to Hispanic crime statistics, so reporting him was a no-no.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 10:55 AM (sdi6R)

300 And Weasel, I like your hawk story.

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:55 AM (70cRb)

301 Nobody likes my hawk story.
*sniff*

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There have been two birds down by dog walking lake. I identified them as golden eagles but upon further reflection, based upon their mottled under wing coloring and the more pronounced curvature of their beaks I have decided they are immature bald eagles. We definitely have bald eagles around there.

I don't talk about bird watching much because, well jeez, it's not like I'm not a big enough nerd already.

P.S. Audubon has great free bird watching app.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:55 AM (+y/Ru)

302
Sgt. Jeff Heinrich was off duty and working on the Stoneman Douglas field when shots rang out.


Off-duty Coral Gables officer, not Broward County Sheriff's Officer. There appears to be a vast difference in how the two organizations approach an active shooter situation.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 10:56 AM (pNxlR)

303 Bluto Platypus

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 24, 2018 10:54 AM (IqV8l)



I had a Blue-Toed Platypus once.

Beautiful metatarsals!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 24, 2018 10:56 AM (9q7Dl)

304 Are you shitting Me ?! I am not a tinfoil conspiracy theorist, But this has me really trying to figure out a reasonable explanation

Posted by: DeploraBOT at February 24, 2018 09:56 AM (y3aQB)

it's like they wanted this to happen.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (0O7c5)


I have said this many times and it needs to be remembered:

Leftists/marxists want chaos. They NEED chaos.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 10:56 AM (Fs5vw)

305 300 And Weasel, I like your hawk story.
Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 10:55 AM (70cRb)
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Thank you, Heidi!

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:57 AM (Sfs6o)

306
What do we get here, on saturday? Chess and movies, and what else?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at February 24, 2018 10:54 AM (roQNm)


Gardening, pets, chess, movies. Usually in that order.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at February 24, 2018 10:57 AM (pNxlR)

307 Question? Can TGE tell federal agencies not to do business with companies like Enterprise?

Posted by: t-dubya-d at February 24, 2018 10:58 AM (RZWC0)

308
I have said this many times and it needs to be remembered:


Leftists/marxists want chaos. They NEED chaos.Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 10:56 AM (Fs5vw)
yep.....as the swamp gets drained expect the chaos to escalate......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 24, 2018 10:58 AM (0O7c5)

309 Scott Israel's academic qualification: Bachelor's degree in Political Science.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (y3sT9)

aka: Four years of sucking Commie dick.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 10:58 AM (Dbv1R)

310 When I lived in Polk Co. the big city of Columbus (county seat) had 1 (one) police officer.
Posted by: BignJames
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Where I grew up, we had a part-time policeman. Only worked weekends, mostly to stop speeders passing through town...or running stop signs.

He drove a '54 Ford, with the siren/light mounted on the left front fender.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 10:59 AM (y3sT9)

311 Almost every day now the contrast between boomers and millennials comes into sharper focus. Only Nixon could go to China (for boomers), but only Trudeau could go to India (for millennials).

Posted by: CyberCipher at February 24, 2018 10:59 AM (p6WoB)

312 P.S. Audubon has great free bird watching app.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 10:55 AM (+y/Ru)
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Thanks. Cornell School of Ornothology has a good one too.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:59 AM (Sfs6o)

313 I know this is crazy ... but I'm going to go counter to the advice of
The Honorable Ralph Peters ... and go look at one of those scary
magazine-fed monsters with the thing that goes up.

People like Ralph are a big part of the reason I'm probably going to go through all the bullshit that Massachusetts puts you through to get a gun. I read his opinion piece in the NY Post. I've rarely read a more condescending piece of bullshit in my life. It was right out of Gun Grabber 101.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:00 AM (O5Q3r)

314 You're thinking of men's figure skating.

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Speaking of which, Twinkle Toes Rippon says he would now accept a phone call from Pence. Gosh, that's swell of you, Twinkle Toes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Broke, Woke, Toke, Joke at February 24, 2018 11:00 AM (+y/Ru)

315 Scott Israel's academic qualification: Bachelor's degree in Political Science.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 09:58 AM (y3sT9)

aka: Four years of sucking Commie dick.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I should add, at one of the minor SUNY's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 11:00 AM (7ThJ3)

316 267 I just spent the better part of an hour watching a young adult red tailed hawk perched on a tree limb in my back yard. We have a lot of ivy and it's a great habitat for chipmunks so he must have been looking for a snack.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (Sfs6o)

We just got back from a trip into town. There was a bald eagle perched on an irrigation line in a field on the way in doing the same thing. Majestic.

Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:01 AM (EcEWt)

317



When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'
http://tinyurl.com/ppqjyra

(Reason)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (oVJmc)

318 Curling is frostback bocce.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (89T5c)

319 For any who have missed it, the Israel comment re Lions and Sheep

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8lmzfnc

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (7ThJ3)

320 Leftists/marxists want chaos. They NEED chaos.

...

I wonder about the difference between them and those that wish for the "SHTF".


Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (x25VP)

321 I live in a very urban setting with a surprising amount of wildlife. Deer and foxes (foxii?) are fairly common.
Posted by: Weasel
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Im smack in the middle of suburbia USA too and we also have herds of deer, coyotes, foxes and all kinds of owls and hawks. Oddly enough, damn few stray cats. I love when the *city kids* call the wildlife officers to complain about the coyotes because Tabby was carried off.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (tr2D7)

322 Thanks. Cornell School of Ornothology has a good one too.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:59 AM (Sfs6o)

I used to do a lot of birding and still keep a life list. I need to rediscover it as it can be done anywhere and would make work travel a bit more interesting.

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (70cRb)

323 Finally, an Israel I can hate.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:03 AM (oVJmc)

324 Peebles beat me by seconds. I could have been a contenda, dammit.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 11:03 AM (7ThJ3)

325 Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (x25VP)

I think you mean the people preparing for when the SHTF. Nobody wants it though they predict it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 11:04 AM (2DOZq)

326 We just got back from a trip into town. There was a bald eagle perched on an irrigation line in a field on the way in doing the same thing. Majestic.
Posted by: jsg at February 24, 2018 11:01 AM (EcEWt)
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We're not far (as the eagle flies) from the Potomac but I haven't seen Eagles in my neighborhood yet, though their number do seem to be on the increase. TONS of Hawks though - I see them almost daily driving home from work.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:04 AM (Sfs6o)

327 304
Leftists/marxists want chaos. They NEED chaos.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 10:56 AM (Fs5vw)


I said last night that Leftists are perfectly willing to murder their opponents when they are in power. The 20th century provides ample evidence of that.

What would keep them from murdering innocents in order to gain power?

Mass shootings like this are good for advancing the Leftist cause. I'm not saying that they are deliberately allowed to happen. I am saying that it is foolish to dismiss the possibility.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:04 AM (sdi6R)

328 Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 10:42 AM (Sfs6o)

I was driving my truck to pick up some brush and stopped near a wild cherry tree. Before I could get out, a red-headed woodpecker descended on that tree and entertained me for several minutes. I just sat in the truck until he decided he was done snacking and flew off. What struck me was the absolute scarlet brilliance of his head, and I felt privileged to be able to observe him at such a close range!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 11:05 AM (gwPgz)

329 When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'

I think the Broward County Sheriff's Department is in store for a major fucking shit storm.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:05 AM (O5Q3r)

330 . TONS of Hawks though - I see them almost daily driving home from work.
Posted by: Weasel
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They've been migrating through here in recent weeks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 11:05 AM (c/EDo)

331 I've seen lots of eagles at Lake Anna, closer to Richmond. So they're out there.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 24, 2018 11:06 AM (5O7DN)

332 I've always thought whenever a Marxist says
something like that the response should be, I fully agree with should
ban XYZ. You want to ban high magazine clips and things that go up,
let's do it.

Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:15 AM (6nRrz)

High magazine clips discriminate against midgets who want to buy a magazine in the airport!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 11:06 AM (Dbv1R)

333 I've seen adult broad shouldered Hawks in my yard eyeballing WeaselDog who tips the scales at about 11 pounds.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:06 AM (Sfs6o)

334 Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 11:05 AM (gwPgz)

There was one in the woods behind the church where I was serving. I hadn't seen one that close before. It was wonderful!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 11:07 AM (8+Ozj)

335 I think the Broward County Sheriff's Department is in store for a major fucking shit storm.
...

Good.

Get rid of the ones that would support the Governor's idiotic age-based gun-ban.

Start with Israel.


Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 11:08 AM (x25VP)

336 I think the Broward County Sheriff's Department is in store for a major fucking shit storm.

If so they deserve it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 11:08 AM (8+Ozj)

337 I think you mean the people preparing for when the SHTF.
..

No. I meant the ones who want it and are cheering for it.

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 11:09 AM (x25VP)

338 I used to do a lot of birding and still keep a life list. I need to rediscover it as it can be done anywhere and would make work travel a bit more interesting.
Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 11:02 AM (70cRb)
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I have a very good friend in Costa Rica who is a serious amateur ornithologist. I sent a poor phone picture of the bird I saw this morning (now named WeaselHawk, or 'tweety') to him which I'm sure he will enjoy.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:09 AM (Sfs6o)

339 I think the Broward County Sheriff's Department is in store for a major fucking shit storm.
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I suspect that you are over-optimistic. Consider what is going on in the highest levels of government agencies. Manifest corruption and criminality, yet...nothing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 11:10 AM (c/EDo)

340 can't believe this was missed https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/individual-who-ate-adopted-pig-banned-from-future-adoptions-1.3816797

Posted by: Ted Bopp at February 24, 2018 11:10 AM (4X91M)

341 We're not far (as the eagle flies) from the Potomac but I haven't seen Eagles in my neighborhood yet, though their number do seem to be on the increase. TONS of Hawks though - I see them almost daily driving home from work.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:04 AM (Sfs6o)
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Here by the Petapsco I see wheeling gaggles of gloomy-looking turkey vultures in the sky or bunches of them roosting by the side of the road. Not as majestic but very fitting for a Poe-esque day like today.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 11:10 AM (qJtVm)

342 I wonder if sheriff is related to that batshit loon Steve Israel in NY?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:10 AM (89T5c)

343 While riding up to one of the churches which I served in a very rural part of NJ I saw a bad eagle in the field by the road. Except in a hospital for injured birds, I had never seen one that close either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 11:10 AM (8+Ozj)

344 @317
In 2013, Scott Israel was honored as the "Man of the Year" in Shomrim County, and "Democrat of the Year" in Broward County Democratic Party.

Posted by: qzy at February 24, 2018 11:12 AM (0dfVr)

345 Just wait until I unveil my Johnny Weir collection next week, complete with cow pie hairdo!

Posted by: Justin Trubleau at February 24, 2018 11:12 AM (Tyii7)

346 We have a Gila woodpecker that comes to our suet feeder. Fun to watch, loud as all get out. They nest in the palm in our front yard every year. Mockingbirds are my favorite to listen to. Watching them reminds me of Cannibal Bob--they get their knickers twisted easily and act like lunatics.

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 11:12 AM (70cRb)

347 If Florida had an actual functioning governor, he would clean up his own damn state instead of using stupid kindergarten teacher logic to suggest unconstitutional laws.

Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 11:12 AM (x25VP)

348 Manifest corruption and criminality, yet...nothing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 24, 2018 11:10 AM (c/EDo)


Democracy isn't free!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 11:13 AM (gwPgz)

349 I saw an Eagle up close recently. Like, really close.

*sobs*

Posted by: Tom Brady at February 24, 2018 11:13 AM (N9jDm)

350 I've been wondering what sort of birds I will see at WeaselAcres. It's a dense pine forest planted 7 or 8 years ago.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:13 AM (Sfs6o)

351 It's so shocking that a guy who would actually proclaim publicly that he's a lion turns out to be an inept doof.

Posted by: Holier than Thou Asshole Bot at February 24, 2018 11:14 AM (SkuXa)

352 Posted by: skip intro at February 24, 2018 11:09 AM (x25VP)

Who would that be? I think you have confused people who respond to threatening actions to people who are doing the threatening.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 24, 2018 11:14 AM (2DOZq)

353 Thank you, husband. It's not enough I drive and attend your board meetings with you, stay with your cranky, demanding mother for the weekend, but now you've blessed me with your idiot friend (who we learned was cheating on my friend as she died).

There went any promise of a semi-nice day.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

"Welcome to our home. Here is a cocktail".

*Jane hands over two warm cans of MeisterBrau*

"Now get the fuck out of my house before I end you, you reprehensible worms."

*John D'oh, wearing an outward visage of shocked embarassment, smiles inwardly*

Posted by: Sharkman at February 24, 2018 11:14 AM (0oDnb)

354 I saw a hawk in my backyard demolishing a bluejay a couple of years ago. When I went out there later there were blue feathers everywhere.

A few months ago I was driving on a local street and came upon a hawk just standing there in the middle of the road. I came to a full stop, and then it flew off.

I usually see them circling high in the sky. They are really enormous up close.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:14 AM (sdi6R)

355 A year or two ago, I saw a picture of an Israeli teacher watching her flock. Cute as a button the kids were and the teacher was most attractive too. Slung over her shoulder was a good old fashioned M1 carbine. The Israelis don't seem to have a problem with school shootings.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at February 24, 2018 11:15 AM (xzqr4)

356 OOOOHHHH! Gila woodpeckers!

We leave next week for AZ to visit family near Phoenix, and they have those birds as regular visitors. Can't wait to see one again.

The flickers of the desert, I call them.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at February 24, 2018 11:16 AM (5OEn4)

357 I suspect that you are over-optimistic. Consider what is going on in the
highest levels of government agencies. Manifest corruption and
criminality, yet...nothing.

Not lifting a finger while 17 people die right in front of you might motivate even some people in the media to go scalp hunting.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:17 AM (O5Q3r)

358
Posted by: Jane D'oh

She's probably off the board now, but if you have no choice in their coming-I gather you don't-consider saying to yourself,"This too will pass."-repeatedly if necessary. I think one thing that's helpful with narcissists or anyone that is a particularly difficult personality type is to the do the "Observe, don't absorb" technique. You can videos on it by Ross Rosenberg

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 11:17 AM (8+Ozj)

359 How 'bout we just put up a version of the headline of the story so we can decide if we want to click on it before we click on it.


Posted by: Dang at February 24, 2018 10:48 AM (8b+oT)

If you "hover" your mouse cursor over the link, usually the actual title of the link will appear on a browser toolbar.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 24, 2018 11:17 AM (Dbv1R)

360 Fun facts about the turkey vulture:

The turkey vulture has a 6-foot wingspan.

The birds spread their wings to warm their body and shake off bacteria. The vulture will actually defecate on its own leg to cool itself down.

Turkey vultures excrete a large amount of uric acid which acts a sanitizer. This kills bacteria the vulture picks up while feeding off carrion, or dead animal carcasses. Did you know they have a tolerance to certain poisons people use to kill coyotes and squirrels?

One primary form of defense for turkey vultures is to vomit, or cough up undigested meat. This usually occurs when the nest is being invaded. The foul smell defers predators from bothering their young.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 11:17 AM (qJtVm)

361 What has surprised me is the resurgence of pheasants in suburbia. I'm always shocked and have trouble driving when one gets near the road. 40 years ago, there were no pheasants at all. Funny story about my small town, a small flock stopped traffic in our downtown walking across the road.

I like pheasants a lot better than those ***damned Canadian Geese.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 11:18 AM (MIKMs)

362 My parents have a nesting pair of eagles about 40 yards off of their deck. This year the pair has an eaglet. Mom sent me video of a feeding. It's pretty cool to watch.

Posted by: no good deed at February 24, 2018 11:18 AM (eIQHF)

363 Heidi - Canibal Bob mentioned you're interested in finding HeidiAcres! Hope it works out! If you all ever find yourselves back east you're more than welcome to stop by and do some shootin' with me.

Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:19 AM (Sfs6o)

364 Ross Rossenberg

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 24, 2018 11:19 AM (8+Ozj)

365 Not lifting a finger while 17 people die right in front of you might motivate even some people in the media to go scalp hunting.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:17 AM (O5Q3r)


You are far too kind in your assessment of the media's integrity!

Posted by: Hrothgar at February 24, 2018 11:20 AM (gwPgz)

366 356 OOOOHHHH! Gila woodpeckers!


They're monsters!

Posted by: Insomniac at February 24, 2018 11:20 AM (ywNoU)

367 I like pheasants a lot better than those ***damned Canadian Geese.


Ugh, they are so loud and they crap everywhere. Our neighborhood has an invading flock. The bastards wake me up every morning.

Posted by: no good deed at February 24, 2018 11:20 AM (eIQHF)

368 I wonder how many of those town-hall schoolkids feel about the cops sitting outside while they were gunned down.

I doubt we'll see them interviewed about that on CNN, though.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 11:20 AM (oVJmc)

369 Fun facts about the turkey vulture:

Turkey vultures are probably the ugliest birds you will ever see.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:21 AM (O5Q3r)

370 Eris, when the turkey buzzards show up here in the Willamette Valley it means Spring really has arrived.

No turkey buzzards yet. It snowed a bit yesterday.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 11:21 AM (2K6fY)

371 I don't understand how a bobsledder can be guilty of "doping." How the hell could drugs positively affect a bobsledder's performance? Why are they even tested?

Posted by: Bear with Assymetrical Balls at February 24, 2018 11:22 AM (H5knJ)

372 Mrs. BewalskiBot and I saw a mature bald eagle eating Peter cotton tail the other day here in North Alabama while walking along the Tennessee river.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 24, 2018 11:23 AM (8ZeGS)

373 NOOD Hungarians.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 24, 2018 11:24 AM (89T5c)

374 We occasionally see them cruising along about ten feet above the water and swooping down to snag a fishy dinner treat.

Posted by: BifBewalksi BOT at February 24, 2018 11:24 AM (8ZeGS)

375 I drink a lot of coffee, but I can stop any time.

I have been known to go hours without coffee.

Really. It's the truth. Hours.

Posted by: Mr. Coffee at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (e1mEI)

376 Re: Florida Governor and Broward Sheriff lunacy-
apologies to Joseph de Maistre: Every population gets the government it deserves.

Posted by: socalcon at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (Roy2Z)

377 329 When Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel Was Accused of Corruption, He Responded: 'Lions Don't Care About the Opinions of Sheep'

I think the Broward County Sheriff's Department is in store for a major fucking shit storm.
Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:05 AM (O5Q3r)


Nope. It is Broward County. The most leftist county in FL. They like the corruption. Nothing spreads their ideology better than tearing down what is right and good.

Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (Fs5vw)

378 Not lifting a finger while 17 people die right in front of you might motivate even some people in the media to go scalp hunting.



Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:17 AM (O5Q3r)



You are far too kind in your assessment of the media's integrity!

Agreed. But one thing that the media is good at is piling on when they smell blood. I think that applies here.

Posted by: tu3031 at February 24, 2018 11:27 AM (O5Q3r)

379 361
I like pheasants a lot better than those ***damned Canadian Geese.
Posted by: mustbequantum at February 24, 2018 11:18 AM (MIKMs)


About 15 years ago I was driving at about 50 on a rainy road, and two of them just walked right out in front of me. I swerved to avoid them and spun out into the median. Good thing it was a divided highway with a grassy median, or I would have gone straight into oncoming traffic.

I couldn't get underway again, but luckily a tow truck happened to be passing by at that moment and saw the whole thing.

A few minutes later the police arrived. I told the officer my story, and then the tow truck driver said, "Look!"

The two geese had crossed the median and were placidly walking across the other side of the highway.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:28 AM (sdi6R)

380 370 Eris, when the turkey buzzards show up here in the Willamette Valley it means Spring really has arrived.

No turkey buzzards yet. It snowed a bit yesterday.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 11:21 AM (2K6fY)
---
The article I got those fascinatin' facts from said they are snake eaters and they are waiting for the snakes to emerge for spring.

So it's like the first crocuses emerging, except hideous.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Literate Savage at February 24, 2018 11:28 AM (qJtVm)

381 I super stoked about the new policy of the MSM putting up pictures and names of the accused for mass murders then offering a plea deal to avoid death, which you are dead IRL anyways, and to avoid that entire hassle (of collecting and conserving all evidence, following the procedures of fact finding, and interviewing all witnesses) as to avoid the feelings of the truamatized members of the community.

This way the 5-6 major corporations that own 95% of all visual, print, and internet media can spoon feed the "facts and narrative" to the public while ignoring, erasing, and penalizing those who report these facts filling in the obvious plot holes. See YouTube current YouTube purge of alternative media.

So totalitarian of Our Overlords and Betters.

*spit*

Posted by: Monk at February 24, 2018 11:31 AM (g4lFK)

382 It is Broward County. The most leftist county in FL. They like the corruption. Nothing spreads their ideology better than tearing down what is right and good.
Posted by: Soona at February 24, 2018 11:25 AM (Fs5vw)

The denizens of Broward are fully on board with the social engineering that brought them the school shooting, letting yutes run wild to hide crime. The fact that one became a mass-murderer just adds a reichstag fire frosting to an otherwise unpleasant expectant result of their policies.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at February 24, 2018 11:32 AM (Eu5eZ)

383 'Turkey vultures are probably the ugliest birds you will ever see.'

This is an ugly bird

https://goo.gl/images/mWx6Ud

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 11:33 AM (EyPfd)

384 363 Heidi - Canibal Bob mentioned you're interested in finding HeidiAcres! Hope it works out! If you all ever find yourselves back east you're more than welcome to stop by and do some shootin' with me.
Posted by: Weasel at February 24, 2018 11:19 AM (Sfs6o)

Thanks Weasel! I am in pursuit of land. Must have trees though which is tough near Phoenix We'll have to expand our search zone (Bob doesn't know that yet!)

Posted by: Heidi at February 24, 2018 11:33 AM (70cRb)

385 Well, looky loo

NOOD!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 24, 2018 11:34 AM (EyPfd)

386 The people monitoring the inbox / twitter account for Enterprise are 26 year old SJWs. They will delete your email. But the ones screaming about the NRA will get forwarded to a manager/director/VP.
Posted by: #neverskankles at February 24, 2018 10:10 AM

This works for me. The execs are the ones who made the decision to stop supporting the NRA, let them live with the consequences. Those snot-nose SJW's are the ones who will be laid off first when business takes a down-turn.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at February 24, 2018 11:38 AM (2NqXo)

387 Holy crap. I took the Hungarian test and got 92% "Are you a native Hungarian?".

I only got two wrong. How I managed that I'll never know.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:53 AM (sdi6R)

388 Oops, wrong thread.

Posted by: rickl at February 24, 2018 11:54 AM (sdi6R)

EMT 02/24/18

“We despise and abhor the bully, the brawler, the oppressor, whether in private or public life, but we despise no less the coward and the voluptuary. No man is worth calling a man who will not fight rather than submit to infamy or see those that are dear to him suffer wrong.”
― Theodore Roosevelt

“Blame is the coward’s solution to his fear of accountability.”
― Craig D. Lounsbrough

"This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it."
― Elmer Davis

"There is a level of cowardice lower than that of the conformist: the fashionable non-conformist."
― Ayn Rand

"When cowardice is made respectable, its followers are without number both from among the weak and the strong; it easily becomes a fashion."
― Eric Hoffer

“A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.”

― William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar

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1 Good Morning!

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 05:55 AM (8ikIW)

2 Morning, Horde.

Posted by: fluffy at February 24, 2018 05:56 AM (cHbmY)

3 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 05:57 AM (H0hPC)

4 Good Morning Morons; today is Saturday, February 24, 2018. On this day in 1917 The U.S. ambassador to the United Kingdom was given the infamous Zimmermann Telegram, in which Germany pledged to ensure the return of New Mexico, Texas, and Arizona to Mexico if Mexico declared war on the United States. This provided an impetus for the US to enter WWI.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

5 Abd g'mornin, krakatoa, Bruce, and fluffy !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 05:59 AM (H0hPC)

6 CNN broadcast the name and address of a Trump supporter on TV so she is now being harassed to death by Anti-Trump asshole trolls. Turnabout is fair play, she should get the name and address of prominent CNN propaganda shills like Jake Tapper and publish them on Facebook and every other internet site she can get access to.


http://tinyurl.com/yd46xrdo

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

7 Also Vic !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 05:59 AM (H0hPC)

8 Fox gives a litany of missed chances that federal and local authorities of could stopped the FL school shooter. Yes, the only thing that the liberals want is more creeping gun control that leads to outright gun confiscation.


So what has happened to Broward County, FL? Over the past 50 years the steady influx of locusts has turned it from a Republican stronghold to a Democrat shit-hole with government much like this incompetent sheriff's department. This county went for Scankles by a wide margin even while FL as a whole went for Trump.


http://tinyurl.com/y8rteqzt

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

9 Fox News trots out one of their fake Republican former military guys to call for more gun control and a ban on so-called assault weapons. Anyone who thinks Fox is on the right is sadly mistaken. They started out with a tilt to the left and they are now just like the rest of the MFM.


Fox News strategic analyst Lt. Col. Ralph Peters (Ret.) appeared on Fox Business Network on Friday to explain why he supports a ban on assault weapons.


http://tinyurl.com/y9cxc7pm

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 05:59 AM (mpXpK)

10 Trump wows the crowd at CPAC.


http://tinyurl.com/ybm3f92p

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

11 Hero dog saves teen in home invasion but is shot by crooks. Good news is he will survive.


http://tinyurl.com/ya888s9g

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

12 RIP Nanette Fabray at 97.


http://tinyurl.com/ybgr5cnp

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

13 Yes, there are some real animals out there. You often hear stories of out of control child protective services taking children from parents for no good reason. Here we have the other end of the spectrum, incompetent child protective services delaying taking children from an insane monster because they did not have 'enough evidence'. In cases like this I apply the 100 year rule. What would people have done 100 years ago in the early 1900s. Ans: Tree, rope, asshole, some assembly required.


http://tinyurl.com/y9cwhn9h

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:00 AM (mpXpK)

14 The DOJ is looking to pull the citizenship of 5 people who hid their record of child abuse while qualifying.


The cases name the following five defendants: Ricardo De Leon, 32, a native of Mexico; Christian Oribello Eguilos, 40, a native of the Philippines; Carlos Noe Gallegos, 41, a native of Mexico; Alwin Farouk Gariba, 51, a native of Guyana; and Moises Javier Lopez, 42, a native of the Republic of Colombia.


http://tinyurl.com/y9jzulqs

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

15 Trump picks Veteran's Day for his proposed military appreciation parade.


http://tinyurl.com/yblrsn36

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

16 Dickhead Durbin is now banned from communion due to his anti-catholic support for abortion.


http://tinyurl.com/yaghrkja

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

17 Rick Scott of FL has become a DIABLO. He is pushing more gun control and opposes arming teachers. I suppose that is the influence of incoming locusts too. The SE states should get together and establish residency requirements of 20 years for voting.


http://tinyurl.com/ya65ufmv

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:01 AM (mpXpK)

18 Ramirez


http://tinyurl.com/ya3847ov


And that's it for today.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:02 AM (mpXpK)

19 I went to the movies yesterday. First time in a long time. We saw "Game Night". I has seen the previews in December and it looked funny, but I've been stung before. I was expecting a hour and a half movie that the first 60 minutes would be good, then they throw shit at the wall for the next 30. Pretty damn funny and entertaining through out though. A couple goofy things, but no worse then any other movie. If nothing else, catch it as a rental.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:02 AM (8ikIW)

20 19
I went to the movies yesterday. First time in a long time. We saw "Game
Night". I has seen the previews in December and it looked funny, but
I've been stung before. I was expecting a hour and a half movie that the
first 60 minutes would be good, then they throw shit at the wall for
the next 30. Pretty damn funny and entertaining through out though. A
couple goofy things, but no worse then any other movie. If nothing else,
catch it as a rental.



Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:02 AM (8ikIW)

Alas the one place we had that rented movies went out of business. We are left with nothing but 'Red Box" whose meager selection is shit.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:06 AM (mpXpK)

21 " Anyone who thinks Fox is on the right is sadly mistaken. "


Mostly leftists think this, in my experience. I haven't been able to stomach their bs for years now. Laughed in the face of the last commie who said I was "getting my talking points from fox news".

It's a context thing ... a good Soviet in Stalin's time would call Trotsky or Bukharin "rightist" ... that is, to the right of Stalin.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 06:06 AM (H0hPC)

22 I have both Netflix and Hulu and I can never find anything on them worth a shit to watch either.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:09 AM (mpXpK)

23 Isn't Newscorp owned by Disney now?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:10 AM (7iLWw)

24 Morning peeps. Lots 'o rain in the Bluegrass.

Fox has a couple right-of-center talking heads but what really irks me is how poor their interviewing has gotten. Major talk-overs, constant interruptions, pontificating, etc. But, yea, they are left of center. Just a little less annoying than CNN.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at February 24, 2018 06:12 AM (iiixZ)

25 While at the movies I also saw what is coming up in the next months. What a load of crap coming out. One of them has the gray goddesses of film, fonda (spit), Keaton, Steenburgen, Candice Bergen and others, what appears to be old ladies reading and attempting the things they read in "50 Shades of Gray"

I'm sorry if you just threw up in your mouths a little.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:12 AM (8ikIW)

26 I can't bring myself to give a shit about those Royhinga savages being brought to infinite justice.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:13 AM (7iLWw)

27 Out here in the sticks we don't even have redbox. Well, there's one about 40 minutes drive away, in The Town Whose Population Reaches Five Digits. Some of the little grocery / liquor stores around have a limited selection of rentals but I've never really looked at what they have.
Mostly get stuff through the public library system.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 06:13 AM (H0hPC)

28 Also on tap. Melissa McCarthy going to college. So a remake of the Rodney Dangerfield movie only with WYMNYZZZ!!

And last but definitely a real pig, Tubby Schumer hits her head and she becomes more confident and more beautiful in her mind and becomes a fashion model.
Plenty of shots of her jelly rolls, dimply ass and thighs and her own brand of humor, if you want to call it that.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:15 AM (8ikIW)

29 The Inited Nations os trying to start a war with Myanmar.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:17 AM (7iLWw)

30 Thanks for the new Vic. It sometimes gets lost in the comment flood on the Morning Report

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:17 AM (8ikIW)

31 23
Isn't Newscorp owned by Disney now?

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:10 AM (7iLWw)

I don't think so. It recently split off into two divisions though, one that does entertainment and the other that does the news. You may be thinking of networks that are largely comcast but have other owners.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:19 AM (mpXpK)

32 United that is. NGOs. All seem to be government run.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:21 AM (7iLWw)

33 Since Roger Ailes left Fox has moved even further left though.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:21 AM (mpXpK)

34
I find a lot of nutrition stuff on Amazon worth watching. Don't get me started on how bad food has become in this country. Like an ex-smoker kind of annoying once I get going.

The epidemic of obesity is not some coincidence. Nor is poor brain functioning due to lousy nutrition. There are 61 names for sugar on food labels, some you'd never recognize. Sometimes they'll use four or five different names so that 'sugar' doesn't appear as the number two ingredient. But if you add up the sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup, barley malt, dextrose, maltose and rice syrup, guess what? It's the number two ingredient. Almost half the product.

Okay, I'll stop now.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 06:22 AM (2FqvZ)

35 Very appropriate quotes, today.

Sadly

Posted by: RobM1981 at February 24, 2018 06:24 AM (VVBN7)

36 One problem is Whoreywood. They only make one or two movies a year worth watching so the movie rental places have very little to choose from.


Almost all of my movie watching now is via Bluerays (and sometimes DVDs) that are well over 20 years old.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:24 AM (mpXpK)

37 Okay, I'll stop now.
Posted by: Acme

If it's in a box or bag and contains more then 2 ingredients, it's probably crap

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:24 AM (8ikIW)

38 Almost all of my movie watching now is via Bluerays (and sometimes DVDs) that are well over 20 years old.
Posted by: Vic

Wifey gets a lot of hers from the library. Probably half are ejected from the machine after 15 minutes into it as crap

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:26 AM (8ikIW)

39 Fox es no bueno. The only reason Tucker and Hannity are in prime time is because O'reilly and MeAgain failed. If they had their way, it would have even been worse. Like the Dallas Cowboys, the only reason Romo started way back when was because a litany of people they wanted to start kept washing out, they were forced to put him in.


Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 06:28 AM (n13/j)

40 38 Wifey gets a lot of hers from the library. Probably half are ejected from the machine after 15 minutes into it as crap





Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:26 AM (8ikIW)

Our library doesn't have much in the way of videos. I did get a bunch of CDs from them though. Most were so scratched up they would not play. Evidently they are all donations from people clearing out estates.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:29 AM (mpXpK)

41 If it's in a box or bag and contains more then 2 ingredients, it's probably crap

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:24 AM


My factory used to be down the street from a famous name you'd recognize in convenience foods. In the morning my plant would receive a tractor trailer load of raw materials. First stop was me, then the famous name up the street. You know what was on the truck to be delivered to them? About 100 different 55 gallon drums of chemicals. I could never buy their products after seeing that.

Pick up a box of a famous name convenience food and look at the label. My G-d it's endless list of crap.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 06:30 AM (2FqvZ)

42 I remember Nanette Fabray from the variety shows in the 60's more then anything.
He niece Shelley on the Donna Reed show was, to me, the hot.
I just read that Shelley is married to Mike Farrell, so now I feel sorry for her

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 06:30 AM (8ikIW)

43 Zero sleep last night. Ugh.

Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 24, 2018 06:31 AM (96C7R)

44 >>> Don't get me started on how bad food has become in this country. Like an ex-smoker kind of annoying once I get going.

I live that every day. Already this morning, my wife told me about a discusssion (argument) she had on Amazon regarding the health benefits of flax seed.

I now return to sipping my green tea.

Posted by: fluffy at February 24, 2018 06:31 AM (cHbmY)

45 Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 06:30 AM (2FqvZ)

Eat animals

Posted by: Pound Me Too at February 24, 2018 06:32 AM (96C7R)

46 food ... a lot of chemicals were good in that they assured safe food. But so much sugar and perhaps other items to get people almost addicted is not so good.

The corporate world has become powerful and buys legislators and regulators that then might tend away from putting the consumer first.

But I still suspect overall the food is less the problem, and kids sitting at their computer or texting all day, instead of sports or work or hobby ... is a huge part of the problem.

And the rage and hate being pumped across media can't be healthy either. Then there are the legal and illegal drugs prescribed or easily available ... quite the toxic soup.

and could it all be part of the globalist plan to cause chaos and weaken the public, mentally and physically? That seems more and more likely by the day.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 06:33 AM (bT8Z4)

47 Everything that isn't crap costs a fortune. Eating a lot of Subway rollups lately.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:34 AM (7iLWw)

48 Oops. Subway wraps.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:34 AM (7iLWw)

49 I want to know if any of the police officers that waited in the parking lot are NRA member. I suspect they aren't.

If that's the case, it would put a pretty big dent in the whole "NRA is evil, put your lives in the hands of law enforcement" narrative.

Posted by: qzy at February 24, 2018 06:36 AM (0dfVr)

50 the one thing I recall about flax seed in the cereal mix ... the little whisk brooms for the colon? ... is they maybe cleaned the colon but their was a lot of gas that came with that process. heh. but maybe that was just me.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 06:37 AM (bT8Z4)

51 We are getting more tropical weather here this morning. Unseasonably warm and high humidity. Here I have been running a humidifier and damp towels trying to get humidity in the house up and now with open windows it is up to 60%. But kittehs are loving those open windows.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:40 AM (mpXpK)

52 illiniwek:

Sure sitting around all day is bad, but I saw a demonstration with a tiny little bag of sugar which is recommended daily allowance - or whatever it's called. Then a bag about three times the size which our kids are consuming daily which was calculated by snooping the ingredient list of all the cereals, breads, etc that our kids eat today.

It takes a shitload of activity to burn through that many calories.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a free market kinda guy, and if that's what it takes for the seller to move their product and provide jobs, that's okay. But I'm not eating that stuff except extremely occasionally.

Diabeetus (type 2) is actually a warning sign of impending cancer according to some.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 06:40 AM (2FqvZ)

53 Thanks to Krak for the EMT. Those quotes all should be framed for easy reference. And thanks to Vic for the news. It saves me listening to the local crap news which is as bad as the networks but with weather reports.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 06:40 AM (V+03K)

54 The white hispanic telegram.

Posted by: Boss Moss at February 24, 2018 06:40 AM (7iLWw)

55 "But I still suspect overall the food is less the problem, and kids sitting at their computer or texting all day, instead of sports or work or hobby ... is a huge part of the problem.

And the rage and hate being pumped across media can't be healthy either. Then there are the legal and illegal drugs prescribed or easily available ... quite the toxic soup.

and could it all be part of the globalist plan to cause chaos and weaken the public, mentally and physically? That seems more and more likely by the day.
Posted by: illiniwek "


Synergy.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/365 at February 24, 2018 06:40 AM (H0hPC)

56 Instapundit is now blocked in China. Need to use my VPN to view it.

Luckily AoSHQ isn't blocked here yet. These comments fail when made through ExpressVPN servers.

Who knows--I may think of a clever comment some day before I return to Texas.

Posted by: Kevin C at February 24, 2018 06:45 AM (luNsf)

57 You can't buy an assualt weapon without a class 3 stamp, how much harder do they want it to be.

(I use the traditional definition of assualt weapon, a select fire, mid caliber weapon with a short oal.

Posted by: Jean at February 24, 2018 06:45 AM (uVt4v)

58 as with our FBI, it seems some of the Broward deputies had involvement in more nefarious activity, like covering up some crimes of some students, or others?

Ignoring so many warnings makes the crazies confidant they will get away with anything. But this kid was almost screaming to get caught, so who ordered all the "stand down" orders?

Trayvon had problems that got covered up, but our media told us he was a ten year old kid just eating some candy, gunned down in cold blood. Hands up Don't Shoot also a big lie. The trend is clear enough.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 06:45 AM (bT8Z4)

59 It's still dark here in the Bluegrass, but I can tell we're going to have some flooding issues. The area is pot marked with sinkholes and they're all full of water. I see the reflections of lights in spots where the water is sitting. That only happens when the sink holes are overflowing. I've been told the sink holes are all "interconnected" and the water rises and falls with the Ohio River.

Posted by: Deplorable Redneck Bitter Clinger at February 24, 2018 06:46 AM (iiixZ)

60
“A coward is incapable of exhibiting love; it is the prerogative of the brave.”

Mahatma G████hi

Retracted for source.

Posted by: James Comey, teetering closer to the edge of the abyss at February 24, 2018 06:46 AM (2FqvZ)

61 I usually put some ground flax seed on my cereal. I'll read about something I should be eating somewhere, order it on Amazon, and after a few months I have forgotten why it was good for me!

Posted by: Colin at February 24, 2018 06:47 AM (Alz0v)

62 Yesterday was the first radio broadcast of the first spring training game for the Nationals for 2018. Wonderful and needed to counter the shit out of Florida and the anti-gun garbage resulting from it.

Took me all of an inning and a half to start cussing and cheering at the radio game. Some traditions are strong. Ah baseball! No one taking a knee, no political or social crap, just the best game in the history of the planet.

Posted by: JTB at February 24, 2018 06:49 AM (V+03K)

63 61
I usually put some ground flax seed on my cereal. I'll read about
something I should be eating somewhere, order it on Amazon, and after a
few months I have forgotten why it was good for me!


Posted by: Colin at February 24, 2018 06:47 AM (Alz0v)

I have two tigs in the food category I get from Amazon. Libby's sausage gravy which you used to be able to get here in the grocery store but no longer, and Bookbinder's lobster bisque which you have never been able to get here.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:50 AM (mpXpK)

64 So they gave Jesus Cruz a plea deal before the bodies were even cold (no trial or discovery or discussion of failures), the Sheriff knew there were multiple responders who did nothing and covered it up for a week, and now I hear they're immediately destroying the school where the shooting took place?

I've known officers in Podunk, WV. Minor, basic investigations into violent crimes by one person against one person can take months. There's no way they done jack on this shooting, and I'd wager it's like the plea deal. Destroy/suppress this evidence and let's never talk of this again.

The DOJ has to get involved in this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 06:51 AM (TtMOe)

65 Americans obsess about food too much. What vegetable or fruit is the MOST healthy of them all, what ingredient will cure your ills, etc. For example, people read about the Mediterranean diet and decide they will drink more wine and eat olive oil, and then they will be healthy. They ignore eating three times as many vegetables and living in a calmer, happier environment as a factor.

The point is there is no simple fix, no magic ingredient. Eat a variety of healthy foods, enjoy them with others you care about, and don't obsess about it. And yes exercise, but do it with activities you enjoy. JMO .

This isn't science, it is history.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 06:51 AM (n13/j)

66 The FL school shooter is Nikolas Cruz. Who is Jesus Cruz and what did he do?

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 06:56 AM (mpXpK)

67 g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 24, 2018 06:57 AM (KCxzN)

68 Then a bag about three times the size which our kids are consuming daily which was calculated .... It takes a shitload of activity to burn through that many calories. Posted by: Acme Trucking

yeah, I didn't eat sweet stuff at all for a long time, now will buy some ice cream, a small amount of junk. But buying the junk is so quick and easy I guess, idk.
I had a food science class but that was in the 70's. I haven't kept up with all this Atkins Diet, Gainz stuff, cave man diet ... seems parents should be able to figure out some basic meat, eggs, potatoes and peas without shoving too much junk at their kids.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 06:58 AM (bT8Z4)

69 I had a food science class but that was in the 70's. I haven't kept up with all this Atkins Diet, Gainz stuff, cave man diet ... seems parents should be able to figure out some basic meat, eggs, potatoes and peas without shoving too much junk at their kids.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 06:58 AM


It's actually pretty simple. When you enter the grocery store shop all along the outside. Never enter the inside aisles.

Real food is on the outside, the inside aisles are Sugar (and Salt) City.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 07:01 AM (2FqvZ)

70 seems parents should be able to figure out some basic meat, eggs, potatoes and peas without shoving too much junk at their kids.
Posted by: illiniwek

In grade school in the 60's, I was the one that had tuna fish, or leftover pot roast, or PBJ sammiches, some cut up celery, carrot, cauliflower, and a piece of fruit.
I would envy the kids with cookies and potato chips in their lunches. I got to high school and O Boy!! I get to eat in the cafeteria. 2 weeks of that and I went to a brown bag lunch with the same stuff in it as I ate in grade school

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:03 AM (8ikIW)

71 seems parents should be able to figure out some basic meat, eggs, potatoes and peas without shoving too much junk at their kids.
Posted by: illiniwek
...........

Yeah.. you would think so.. But parents have become lazy... and, at the same time, have convinced themselves they are so busy with life, that convenience food for their kids is justifiable.

If only they would get off their phones and facebook they might discover new found oodles of time to spend with their kids!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 24, 2018 07:03 AM (5tSKk)

72 66 The FL school shooter is Nikolas Cruz. Who is Jesus Cruz and what did he do?
______________________

The shooter's full name is something like Nikolas Jesus de la Cruz.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 24, 2018 07:03 AM (fqUgw)

73 Nikolas Cruz has been charged with 17 counts of first degree murder in FL and no bond is set. First degree murder in FL is punishable by death or life w/o parole.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 07:03 AM (mpXpK)

74 oh... and good morning!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 24, 2018 07:03 AM (5tSKk)

75 What happened in the Tapper thread yesterday? There was a Weakly Substandard link in ace's post and then it disappeared along with my comment on it? Did Cuck Kristolnacht threaten legal action for linking his garbage editorial?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 24, 2018 07:04 AM (y7DUB)

76 According to Yahoo!, the BSO is investigating itself in how it responded to the shooting.

Shouldn't a State agency have been brought in to investigate?

Posted by: qzy at February 24, 2018 07:05 AM (0dfVr)

77 76 According to Yahoo!, the BSO is investigating itself in how it responded to the shooting.
________________

LOL. No doubt that will be a thorough investigation.

Why don't they just exonerate themselves now and save the taxpayers some money?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 24, 2018 07:07 AM (fqUgw)

78 77 LOL. No doubt that will be a thorough investigation.



Why don't they just exonerate themselves now and save the taxpayers some money?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 24, 2018 07:07 AM (fqUgw)

The first cop who was an assigned school guard has "retired" with pension.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 07:08 AM (mpXpK)

79 It's actually pretty simple. When you enter the grocery store shop all along the outside. Never enter the inside aisles.



Real food is on the outside, the inside aisles are Sugar (and Salt) City.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 07:01 AM (2FqvZ)
====================

I know what your saying, and to a large degree its true. "Whole" food such as meat, dairy and produce are on the outskirts of the store. But you can find some good stuff on the inside too. Dried beans and peas, honey, rice, flour for baking your own bread, oatmeal etc. You just have to walk past the processed stuff to get to the good stuff.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:10 AM (lwiT4)

80 Rick Scott of FL has become a DIABLO

I think he's always been one. I think he originally ran as Tea Party but quickly did an Ayotte as he caved to the race hustlers in the Saint Traytable case and flushed normal procedures down the shitter, creating a ridiculous spectacle before the jury quickly saw what happened and returned an innocent finding. IOW a typically gutless Repuke.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 24, 2018 07:11 AM (y7DUB)

81 I forgot. Another movie coming out is called Cock Blocker. Only they don't have Cock in the title, they use a picture of a Rooster.

It seems like a high school girl is determined to lose her virginity on prom night. Dad, mom and some other chuckle heads go all in to prevent that. Somewhere along the line, they are at a party that HS kids are at, and the only way they can get the info of (I guess) where she'll lose here virginity is to for the one dad to have a chugging contest against one of the kids. Of course the dad is all in, so Hellz yeah!!
It's a butt chugging contest. So like a beer bong only shoved up your ass.

Hilarity ensues, I think, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:11 AM (8ikIW)

82 People saying that the cop didn't have to go in and try and stop the shooter.

I want to think that's what an armed guard is for. Otherwise, what?, he's gonna draw down on some 16 year old smoking in the boys room?

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:13 AM (8ikIW)

83
Americans obsess about food too much.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 06:51 AM


Perhaps the 60% who are not obese. The 40% who are obese apparently not so much.

If Trump succeeds in delivering healthy food to the obese instead of food stamps I can safely predict the bitchin' and moanin' will hit historic levels.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 07:14 AM (2FqvZ)

84 People saying that the cop didn't have to go in and try and stop the shooter.

Then they're just janitors, there to mop up afterward.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at February 24, 2018 07:14 AM (oVJmc)

85 is the parade active duty only?

Posted by: clutch at February 24, 2018 07:16 AM (kiSdp)

86 If the responsible government employees/agencies DIDN'T offer Jesus Cruz* a plea deal then that's a good thing. If they accept one FROM him that will still remove any evidence, discovery, etc. from becoming public in a trial, right?

* White-hispanic Cruz's diverse name is apparently a big part of why no one at the school, social worker, sheriff, or FBI level stopped him in the months and years leading up to the shooting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:17 AM (TtMOe)

87 82
People saying that the cop didn't have to go in and try and stop the shooter.



I want to think that's what an armed guard is for. Otherwise, what?,
he's gonna draw down on some 16 year old smoking in the boys room?

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:13 AM (8ikIW)

The only people I have seen defending the cop is himself and the local police union. Even MSDNC is not defending the cop while they attack for more gun control.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 07:17 AM (mpXpK)

88 Seriously, if I were one of those cops, I would change my name and move out of town. What a despicable group of men. If I were there wife, I'd be tempted to leave. Who hides while children die?

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:17 AM (lwiT4)

89 Dana Loesch has a good short clip going around on Facebook. She says media loves the ratings from mass shootings and grieving white mothers.

Then she notes she said "white mothers", because the are thousands of grieving blacks mothers in Chicago ... and you don't see town halls for them, do you?

Thousands ... well a few news ones every weekend, but it is a strong point that they push the white mothers and a mass shooting for gun control, but ignore the plight of the black Democrat voting mother that might want some action on their side of town (which is always run by Democrats).

of course the MSM gets to stage manage her sound bites, framed around their spin, so most viewers will not make the connection, but will learn to hate Dana.

youtube.com/watch?v=7ylHz_a1cO4

Posted by: illiniwek at February 24, 2018 07:17 AM (bT8Z4)

90 Who taps Tapper when Tapper is fapping CNN hot chix wanna know,they have signed a non dicksclosure agreement already....Answer easy peasy LEMON squeezer!

Posted by: saf at February 24, 2018 07:18 AM (cS/ge)

91 86
If the responsible government employees/agencies DIDN'T offer Jesus
Cruz* a plea deal then that's a good thing. If they accept one FROM him
that will still remove any evidence, discovery, etc. from becoming
public in a trial, right?

* White-hispanic Cruz's diverse name is
apparently a big part of why no one at the school, social worker,
sheriff, or FBI level stopped him in the months and years leading up to
the shooting.


Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:17 AM (TtMOe)

I seriously doubt that even the Democrat gov there is stupid enough to offer him a plea deal.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 07:18 AM (mpXpK)

92 Just read an article at American Thinker recommending 2 movies, after reading the article I thought, why see them? Now after reading comments here my goal to start seeing movies at the theater this year is gone.

On the food comments. Exercise and less food. Cut down on the sugar, a lot. Hubby an I are doing Weight Watchers. He lost 7 pounds in 10 days and I lost 3. The problem is keeping it off. I lost 46lbs using WW late 80's. Kept most of it off until the last 2 years. Getting older doesn't help since a lot of people become sedentary as they age, especially after retirement.

Posted by: never enough caffeine at February 24, 2018 07:18 AM (N3JsI)

93 Haven't we suffered enough?

Posted by: The Deputies of Coward Brounty at February 24, 2018 07:19 AM (XA9IT)

94 Americans obsess about food too much.



Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 06:51 AM



Perhaps the 60% who are not obese. The 40% who are obese apparently not so much.



If Trump succeeds in delivering healthy food to the obese instead of
food stamps I can safely predict the bitchin' and moanin' will hit
historic levels.

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 07:14 AM (2FqvZ)
I hear ya. I was trying to say that the key is balance, not some magic super food or super diet. It is good food AND a healthy lifestyle. Though you are of course right many don't think about food quality at all.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 07:19 AM (n13/j)

95 At dinner last night with some retired teachers. Didn't get real political, but one did say. If we arm teachers and there is a shooting incident, when the law comes in how will they know who the shooter is?

I wanted to say, Easy, you'll be the one standing there with the shooters scalp in your hands.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:20 AM (8ikIW)

96 I have found that going in the hospital is a major weight loss method. I am back to trying to gain weight now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 07:21 AM (mpXpK)

97 The Zimmerman cable was supposed to have been intercepted in Mexico, and the code broken in the US, however the Brits got it by violating the neutrality of the American Trans-Atlantic telegraph cable that passed through British territory.
The SIS tapped the cable for German communication to the Americas, and broke the code in England. When they provided it to their contacts in the US government, they brought a copy of the coded cable in and used the key they had developed to decode it "to show that it was a valid document" but mostly to allow the disingenuous claim that it was "broken in the US"
A later copy was gotten from Mexico, I believe, but it was the initial intercept that gave information that there was something to find

A wonderful example of counter espionage, or manipulation of US policy by foreign governments.

As regards to dealing with any expansionist urges on the part of Mexico, it would have been cheaper to take Veracruz for the fifth time.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 24, 2018 07:21 AM (2K6fY)

98 It's my understanding the only reason we know about the cowardly cops is because out-of-jurisdiction officers came in and entered the school and later told about what they saw.

Even if you're too scared to save those kids, those Broward county officers apparently didn't even secure the perimeter. Jesus walked over to a McDonalds for a quick bite after his murder spree. They found him something like two hours later, and I'm sure it was because of something stupid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:21 AM (TtMOe)

99 but one did say. If we arm teachers and there is a shooting incident,
when the law comes in how will they know who the shooter is?


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This is the problem with the discussion. It seems common sense to us, but even gun-curious (vs anti) folks have no knowledge of the topic. Even on easy stuff like this.

Answer: The good guys put their guns down when the law arrives.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:24 AM (TtMOe)

100 73

I can't find where a court date has been set, either.

Posted by: franksalterego at February 24, 2018 07:24 AM (3cq8T)

101 I live in the suburbs with plenty of good grocery stores. But I realize most in the city have only the corner store which sells mostly beer (20 oz) and chips. And they of course except EBT cards as the number one payment. Corner stores in cities use to be just smaller grocery stores selling more food items.

Posted by: Colin at February 24, 2018 07:25 AM (Alz0v)

102 Answer: The good guys put their guns down when the law arrives.

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Well, assuming the law eventually comes inside to help.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:25 AM (TtMOe)

103 On the food comments. Exercise and less food. Cut down on the sugar, a lot. Hubby an I are doing Weight Watchers. He lost 7 pounds in 10 days and I lost 3. The problem is keeping it off. I lost 46lbs using WW late 80's. Kept most of it off until the last 2 years. Getting older doesn't help since a lot of people become sedentary as they age, especially after retirement.
Posted by: never enough caffeine

Also remember that after age 40 your body goes to shit. Genetically you should have helped to raise at least 2 generations by now. You are to be the elder in the square. What weight you have your body is trying desperately to hold on to as you do another diet that the body pecieves as another famine.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:25 AM (8ikIW)

104 I don't think they were cowards. I think they (the left) do this on purpose. They want chaos. Bottom up, inside out, upside down, top down. They want the civil society destroyed so they can usher in totalitarianism. They desire chaos because it preceeds the revolution.

The Sheriff loved that school shooting. He got national attention and furthered gun grabbing.

Until we understand the final solution the left is aiming toward, we won't understand how to stop them.

Reminds me of how Muhammad conquered Mecca and Medina. He first made everyone feel bad about persecuting the muslims, then when they were mired in guilt, he conquered them by force.

Posted by: dagny at February 24, 2018 07:26 AM (16bxt)

105 Little-Known Hockey Fact: Prior to 1968 there were no tie games in minor league hockey. If a game was tied after regulation time, the teams would play a 10 minute overtime period. If the game remained tied after the overtime session the game would be settled in a shootout. This usually took place in the parking lot behind the arena. Prior to 1955 players brought their own weapons. In an attempt to standardize the process, in 1955 standard issue Webley revolvers became the official sidearm of hockey. Survivors on the losing team received medical treatment without out-of-pocket expense in the public Canadian healthcare system.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 24, 2018 07:26 AM (wPiJc)

106 95 -At dinner last night with some retired teachers.
Didn't get real political, but one did say. If we arm teachers and there
is a shooting incident, when the law comes in how will they know who
the shooter is?



I wanted to say, Easy, you'll be the one standing there with the shooters scalp in your hands.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:20 AM (8ikIW)
I actually think the teacher made a valid point. Good guys with guns have been shot before in these situations. Not a deal breaker if people actually want to make things better (not going to say "solve the problem"). Most of the anti-points have been bad, at least that one is a think to consider. BTW, remember when the left said no pilots should be armed after 9/11? There answer is always the same even if the question changes.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 07:26 AM (n13/j)

107
* White-hispanic Cruz's diverse name is apparently a big part of why no one at the school, social worker, sheriff, or FBI level stopped him in the months and years leading up to the shooting.
____________________

Yes, the DOJ under racists Obama and Holder implemented a bunch of idiotic policies to get local schools to stop arresting "too many" black and hispanic students for their crimes, on the theory that the only reason so many blacks and hispanics end up in prison is because of institutional (i.e. white) racism, and not due to the fact that blacks and hispanics commit many more, and many more violent, crimes than whites and Asians.

So the DOJ was conditioning the award of federal grant money on schools' reducing their arrests of black and hispanic students. Schools responded to the incentives created by the DOJ by ignoring, hiding, lying about, etc., the crimes being committed by black and hispanic students (so that they would not have to arrest said criminals and thereby generate arrest statistics that would keep them from getting the federal money).

That's why the Broward deputy at the school didn't do anything (except hide) when the shooting started. He wasn't at the school to stop crime. He was at the school to help hide and cover-up student crime, especially minority student crime (that's also why he refused to cooperate in the earlier investigation of Cruz).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at February 24, 2018 07:27 AM (fqUgw)

108 Notes on the Zimmerman Telegram by a site not Wikipedia.


http://tinyurl.com/yat7grdh

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at February 24, 2018 07:28 AM (mpXpK)

109 102: yeah, that is the gist. The key is not doing it too soon or too late.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 07:29 AM (n13/j)

110 this is where the BAD idea of CCW badges came about.

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 07:29 AM (n13/j)

111 I've lost 57 lbs since July. The formula that works is zero added sugar, limiting other sugars to 15g, gross carbs under 50, net carbs under 20, a lot of healthy fat, no grains, no starches. Only water, no carbonation. No alcohol. A shit ton of non-starchy vegetables. Fruit only cucumbers, peppers, kiwi, blackberries and raspberries, avocado. Fructose is almost as bad as sucrose. Eat enough calories, but not in carbs. No powders, shakes, or processed food. Excess protein turns into glucose too, but most people don't get enough. First week is hell, then easy sailing. Weight falls off.

Posted by: dagny at February 24, 2018 07:30 AM (16bxt)

112 The Sheriff loved that school shooting. He got national attention and furthered gun grabbing.

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He blamed the NRA and pro-gun politicians for a week while knowing and choosing to cover up that there was more than one of his officers cowering on site during the shooting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:31 AM (TtMOe)

113 Even if you're too scared to save those kids, those Broward county officers apparently didn't even secure the perimeter. Jesus walked over to a McDonalds for a quick bite after his murder spree. They found him something like two hours later, and I'm sure it was because of something stupid.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks and Hispanics are beating up LGBTs in record numbers and it's Trumps fault!!!! at February 24, 2018 07:21 AM (TtMOe)


Cruz was apprehended because a police officer saw him wearing the same clothing that witnesses said the shooter was wearing. If I remember correctly, it was a Coral Springs officer -- the same agency that was the first to go into the school building.

It has become very apparent that the Broward County Sheriff's Office is corrupt, cowardly and incompetent. All that flows from Sheriff Israel; no wonder he is trying to deflect blame.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 24, 2018 07:31 AM (5Yee7)

114 WW isn't the best program. There is no "free" food. It doesn't teach you how to eat for real. Once you quit the weight comes back on. Get the Livestrong app/my plate and read the community comments. Most are silly, but a lot are not and from people who have lost huge amounts of weight and reveresed and eliminated Type II diabetes.

Posted by: dagny at February 24, 2018 07:32 AM (16bxt)

115 Well done, Dagny! 57 is a lot of weight. How much more do you want to lose?

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 24, 2018 07:32 AM (U+nHb)

116 He blamed the NRA and pro-gun politicians for a week while knowing and choosing to cover up that there was more than one of his officers cowering on site during the shooting


He was using the Benghazi Gambit. They are still looking for a video to blame it on.

Posted by: Bruce at February 24, 2018 07:33 AM (8ikIW)

117 111- I have wondered this before, why no carbonation?

Posted by: quint at February 24, 2018 07:33 AM (n13/j)

118 Dried beans and peas, honey, rice, flour for baking your own bread, oatmeal etc. You just have to walk past the processed stuff to get to the good stuff.

Posted by: grammie winger - at February 24, 2018 07:10 AM


Sure, it's there, but you have to walk past the 99% junk to find it.

Question for you -- I can buy a five pound bag of whole wheat flour and white enriched flour for the exact same price. But if I buy a loaf of whole wheat bread it's a dollar a loaf more expensive.

What's the story there?

Posted by: Acme Trucking Enterprises, White Truck Division at February 24, 2018 07:33 AM (2FqvZ)