Nunes Press Conference Bullet Points

Just quick notes. Many of these are not exact quotes. They're as close as I could get them on a first pass-through. If there are quotes around a statement, that means it's closer to being an exact quote; no quotes means it's closer to a paraphrase.

1. "I briefed the president on the concerns I had concerning the incidental collection of data."

2. The reports I was able to see did not have anything to do with the Russian ties investigation.

3. Reporter gets huffy and demands to know why he is briefing the president about this matter, as the reporter thinks Trump is a criminal and should not be told about the Legal Noose tightening around his gangster neck.

4. He answers that the reason is that from what he saw, the surveillance had nothing to do with the Russian investigation.

5. "Brings up a lot of concerns about whether things were properly minimized or not" (minimized = masking/redacting names of US citizens before disseminating)

6. "What I've read bothers me, and it should bother the President himself and his team, because some of it seems inappropiate."

7. "It definitely goes beyond General Flynn." "We don't know how [that name] was picked up [collected, intercepted]."

8. "So far the FBI has not told us if they're going to respond to our March 15th [request for additional information]."

9. "What I've read seems to me to be some level of surveillance activity, perhaps legal, but I don't know if it's right and I don't know if the American people would be comfortable with [it.]"

10. Press continues attempting to Save Obama by focusing relentlessly on whether there was a physical wiretap of physical phone lines.

11. Asked if Obama ordered the surveillance, he says only "we don't know" who was responsible for "the taskings." (Which I take to mean the orders to survey.)

12. Intelligence reports were scattered across "a whole bunch of other agencies"

13. "I was only able to see a few dozen" of the intel reports. Some do have some foreign intelligence value -- implied, some don't.

14. "I think the president is concerned -- and he should be."

15. Again, a reporter digs down on "wiretap," trying to justify the Trump Lies article he's already pre-written in his brain.

16. Asked if he can rule out the possibility that "senior Obama officials were involved in this," he says "No, we cannot."

17. Nunes says that the monitoring is itself less of the issue (he seems to think this was permissible, or could be argued to be permissible), but the unmasking of names in intel reports is what he finds concerning.

18. "Yes," he says, when asked if actual Trump team communications are included in the intelligence reports.

19. Who brought him the information? "Well I can tell you this -- we've been asking people to come forward, and they came through through the proper procedures" (i.e., in comportment with whistleblower statutes, I think he means)

20. He thinks it was legal collection, but then possibly illegal dissemination. I thnk he's also suggesting that given that most of the intercepted communications have no foreign intelligence value, our foreign intelligence collection agencies should not have been typing them up, analyzing them, and then disseminating them -- what our our foreign spy agencies doing spying on US citizens? Or typing up the "incidentally intercepted" conversations of US citizens, if those conversations have no foreign intelligence value? Are they spying on foreign threats -- or against political opponents? Note all those questions are not quotes; they're what I think Nunes is getting at.

21. Was it information monitored in real time, or was it captured, stored, then sifted through later? He says it happened "pretty quickly," i.e., near real time.

22. Press: "Are you attempting to give the president cover for his wiretapping claim?" Of course they ask this. He answers that many documents do not seem to rise to having any foreign intelligence value, which makes him wonder why US citizens were unmasked in the reports.

23. Says he can't get into the issues here too specifically, but suggests people look into the "incidental collection" of data on Congress last year, because that case is similar to this one.

Update: When asked if he feels "vindicated" by what Nunes has told him, Trump says "I somewhat do, I very much appreciate they found what they did."

Posted by: Ace at 03:22 PM




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1 Foist?

Posted by: Flyboy at March 22, 2017 03:23 PM (e4Dv3)

2 Huh.....

Posted by: Deplorable Flyover 98ZJUSMC at March 22, 2017 03:23 PM (qoAfa)

3 Bullet points are now Wizard points.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 22, 2017 03:23 PM (IqV8l)

4 Good on Nunes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 22, 2017 03:24 PM (zsHGH)

5 Yes, as a matter of fact the media IS an arm of the Democratic Party.

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

6 Also, our media is mostly composed of corrupt democratic propaganda operatives.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (zsHGH)

7 "So far the FBI has not told us if they're going to respond to our March 15th [request for additional information]."





Jimmy, here's a box. Have all of the shit in and on your desk in it. You've got 10 minutes before we kick your ass out of here

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (493sH)

8 Is obama still out of the country or as I call it, on the run?

Posted by: Lord Sir x at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (nFwvY)

9 10. Press continues attempting to Save Obama by focusing relentlessly on whether there was a physical wiretap of physical phone lines.

Cue April Ryan to mathsplain the entire incident away.

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (nNdYv)

10 Trump peed on the bed.

Posted by: New York Times at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (IqV8l)

11 And thank God for the whistleblowers.

(Oh, and pretty soon we're going to have some kind of HUGE squirrel. Somebody linked to a claim in the NYT that there is a video of the alleged incident wherein the Donald is supposed to have enjoyed watersports with a Russian ho.)

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 22, 2017 03:26 PM (RD7QR)

12 This is bigly news.

Posted by: Fake at March 22, 2017 03:26 PM (eypV6)

13 RESIGN!! AND FLEE!!!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at March 22, 2017 03:26 PM (FZYNt)

14 10 Trump peed on the bed.
Posted by: New York Times

He should get him some depends

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary at March 22, 2017 03:27 PM (FZYNt)

15 If the American names aren't included, what's the point of leaking reports to the media?

Thankfully the media's capacity for true intrigue is sub Cersei. Hence how Maddie beclowned herself for a ratings spike and credibility nadir.

Still. We are still dancing around the fact the former President is involved in a Charles Logan sized conspiracy against the current President.

Posted by: trev006 at March 22, 2017 03:27 PM (xZqC0)

16 8 On the run,frolicking on the beach and lots of gay sex,but mostly gay sex.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:27 PM (r/0kC)

17 Alternate Title for Nunes Press Conference Post:

The moment you realize your stupid Russian/Impeachment fetish is about to turn to dogshit.

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:27 PM (nNdYv)

18 Bullet Point 23 is a killer.

The media twisting themselves into knots to insist Literal Trump is Still Wrong is disgusting.

Posted by: spongeworthy at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (mrfTe)

19 @steevy

The good kind or guy/guy stuff?
Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (zsHGH)

20 Trump peed on the bed.

Actually, he paid the best hookers in the world to pee on the bed.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin, Pimp-in-Chief at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (TppKb)

21 bo sure left the country at a good time, huh ?

Posted by: runner at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (c6/9Q)

22 London terrorist Abu Izzadeen, well known British Islamic extremist who has previously served time for his role in inciting other attacks in US and U.K.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (gtQ/3)

23 My theory is that Obama admin was spying on Trump the whole time and only used the FISA warrants as cover to disseminate the information.

Posted by: MAGA at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (A4HOq)

24 Was the reporter from CNN? t stuck with another 15 min of CNN at MUSC this morning. 15 min of Trump hate non-stop. All of them hate Trump but CNN has gone absolutely rabid.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (mpXpK)

25 Video of some Russian hookers peeing on a bed can be had rather cheaply.If Trump is in the video that is another story.I very much doubt it.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (r/0kC)

26 Nunes should have hired Russian Hookers to give him a Golden Shower while he had his Presser.

Posted by: garrett at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (4/95V)

27 From the end of the last thread, google Dennis Montgomery. He is a whistleblower who has been making claims of illegal spying on American citizens for some time now.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he is the whistleblower in this case.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (/tuJf)

28 mother fuckers.. Trump needs to sweep the entire intel community clean of these traitors.

Posted by: Quasimodo at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (so+oy)

29 Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, Alyson Camerota, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, et al on suicide watch.

Film at 11:00.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (PY9jH)

30 Tapped, like a keg?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (E5jIq)

31 19 Fudge.Packing.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (r/0kC)

32 29 Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, Alyson Camerota, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, et al on suicide watch.

Film at 11:00.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

you leave me hanging here??

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (FZYNt)

33 22 London terrorist Abu Izzadeen, well known British Islamic extremist who has previously served time for his role in inciting other attacks in US and U.K.



Motive unclear. May have been lack of economic opportunity or workplace violence.

Posted by: Malcolm Tent at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (gtQ/3)

34 Bullet Point 23 is a killer.

Have to go back and look about Nunes' exact words, but yeah. "There's past practice, if you idiots cared to look."

Posted by: JEM at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (TppKb)

35 I'm thinking Ace might need to bring back a flaming skull or three pretty soon.

Posted by: George Tirebiter at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (/zyrl)

36 22. Press: "Are you attempting to give the president cover for his wiretapping claim?"

CUE Maxine Waters tweet about "get ready for impeachment NUNES something something N. Korea"

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (nNdYv)

37 Press: "Are you attempting to give the president cover for his wiretapping claim?" Of course they ask this.


Protect their King. The first duty of the press.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (8ZskC)

38 24. Yes we are planning on using the exact same techniques on the next Democratic nominee for president.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (ELUpj)

39
London terrorist Abu Izzadeen, well known British Islamic extremist who has previously served time for his role in inciting other attacks in US and U.K.
Posted by: Malcolm Tent


Izzadeen and his brother Affadeen used to pitch for the Cardinals.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (IqV8l)

40 Is the Trump water sports video going to be grainy and Trump will look strangely like the clown in the Snoop Dog video?

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (WYwks)

41 bo sure left the country at a good time, huh ?

Posted by: runner at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (c6/9Q)

Where is he? Do we have extradition treaty?

Posted by: BignJames at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (x9c8r)

42 Video of some Russian hookers peeing on a bed can be had rather cheaply.If Trump is in the video that is another story.I very much doubt it.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (r/0kC)


They'll have some guy in a blond lace wig weasel in there ... but you can never quite see his face ...

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (zc3Db)

43 Motive unclear. May have been lack of economic opportunity or workplace violence.

I vote for lack of twelve-year-old pu**y.

Posted by: JEM at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (TppKb)

44 Just so much winning. Can't get enough.

Posted by: Redenzo at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (5wSNN)

45 Remember during the early days of the transition, when Trump was getting irritated that aspects of his meetings were being leaked to the press?

Related?

Posted by: MWR, on my phone but still Beth at heart at March 22, 2017 03:30 PM (YFh3U)

46
Motive unclear. May have been lack of economic opportunity or workplace violence.


Posted by: Malcolm Tent at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (gtQ/3)
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Obviously the TRUMP TRAVEL BANS.

Posted by: RioBravo at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (SsblQ)

47 #03. Fuck you & the horse you rode in on.
#23. Please disseminate the congressional wiretaps to the public.

(Bullet point numbers, not posters)

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (Uohrc)

48 One can only imagine the frantic workings going on in the Obama's new digs in DC.

ValJar is going to be one busy Iranian rodent.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (PY9jH)

49 FB just had an article that Vince Foster was dis-interned for autopsy.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (jsWA8)

50 Is the Trump water sports video going to be grainy and Trump will look strangely like the clown in the Snoop Dog video?

Ron Jeremy with a blond wig.

Posted by: JEM at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (TppKb)

51 A. Fire Comey right now based on FBI stonewalling.

B. Special prosecutor.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (B+qrE)

52 rachel maddow is tweeting that she has the details of Nunes press conference on her show tonight!

Posted by: yankeefifth at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (cPsPa)

53 Vic,
If you are in Charleston, SC we should get together. Hope you are ok.

Posted by: Fake at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (eypV6)

54 Gimme back my Bullet Points.

Posted by: Lynyrd Skynyrd at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (ismre)

55 This is all fake news. What's *really* important is Stairphobiagate, aka The World in Crisis.

Posted by: CNN at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (M2Tlc)

56 Let's all play that fun game and try to imagine how the press would have reacted if George W had authorized surveillance that intercepted communications from the Obama transition team after the '08 election.

ZOMG!!!!!!! WORSE THAN WATERGATE!!!! WORSE THAN STALIN!!!!!! WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!!


Yeah. That.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (8ZskC)

57 53 Vic,
If you are in Charleston, SC we should get together. Hope you are ok.
Posted by: Fake at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (eypV6)

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I think he lives upstate.

Otherwise I think I would have tried to meet him by now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (ELUpj)

58 Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, Alyson Camerota, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, et al on suicide watch.

Film at 11:00.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (PY9jH)
..........

Hope they make it a group thing so I don't have to channel surf.

Posted by: wth at March 22, 2017 03:33 PM (HgMAr)

59 48 One can only imagine the frantic workings going on in the Obama's new digs in DC.

ValJar is going to be one busy Iranian rodent.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (PY9jH)


My one consolation throughout this entire affair has been the incontrovertible fact that the deep state coup is being coordinated by ShitMidas.

you just know that ValJar has stepped on her dick a time or two, just since this post went up.

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:33 PM (nNdYv)

60 "15. Again, a reporter digs down on "wiretap," trying to justify the Trump Lies article he's already pre-written in his brain."

Incorrect. The reporter is trying to shore up all of the other lefty blog posts and MSM news articles that he cribbed from when cobbling together what he will sell as original work.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat at March 22, 2017 03:33 PM (aVNi6)

61 Donald is supposed to have enjoyed watersports with a Russian ho.)

Rather than thinking about the "golden showers" in its most disgusting sense I'm going to imagine Trump having setup a large kiddie pollen a bed in which he and Melania in the bathing suits are sitting while Trump showers the bed with golden coins and says "Weeeeeeeee"

Trump made it c'lear he's a germaphobe so if they want to have an icky golden showers they'll have to pay someone to impersonate Trump and get a film from a distance

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (fDdVG)

62 Of course, Egg McMuffin is made at Nunes.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (OD2ni)

63 So what is the end game here?

It is clear the Obama regime monitored and disseminated information from the trump campaign. It is likely none of it was technically illegal.

What can be done in response?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (9OgGE)

64 Afraid of stairs, people.

Afraid.

Of.

Stairs.

Posted by: CNN at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (M2Tlc)

65 50 You reminded me Xhamster (porn site) was searching for a Trump lookalike for a porn parody thy are making.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (r/0kC)

66 FB just had an article that Vince Foster was dis-interned for autopsy.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM (jsWA


Fake news

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (qoAfa)

67 59
My one consolation throughout this entire affair has been the incontrovertible fact that the deep state coup is being coordinated by ShitMidas.

you just know that ValJar has stepped on her dick a time or two, just since this post went up.
Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:33 PM (nNdYv)

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I have yet to see how the pair of them are actual geniuses.

As soon as they lost their super-majority in the Senate, they were almost completely unable to get anything through Congress. Having 8 years to fill executive agencies and the courts with leftists isn't exactly a sign of genius, just taking advantage of an obvious situation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (ELUpj)

68 If you look at the timeline of events last year, it looks like the Obama admin was fishing for information on Trump to counteract the Wikileaks disclosures.

Posted by: MAGA at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (A4HOq)

69 Is this incident(s) being referenced a description of a conspiracy to subvert the government by illegal activity?

It certainly does not seem to me routine, but malign politically motivated covert action.

Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (zSVEm)

70 So, it's all true then? Obama really did spy on Trump?


Who would have guessed that?

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (JALpR)

71 >>> 23. Says he can't get into the issues here too specifically, but suggests people look into the "incidental collection" of data on Congress last year, because that case is similar to this one.
......

The media doesn't even give a shit about Obama's "incidental collection" of data on reporters ("incidental"... because having your laptop and files physically seized happens accidentally all the time).

The media doesn't look into a damn thing except the whether or not they were included in all the upcoming free trips and cocktail parties.

Posted by: Damiano at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (n3oGs)

72 bo sure left the country at a good time, huh ?
__________________


Wasn't Bo the dog? Can't blame him for running away I suppose.

Posted by: Chicago Police Department at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (hUtue)

73 I have more hope of seeing a legit Taylor Swift sex tape than the Trump golden shower video.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (B6OKy)

74 Over/under on TFG extending his vacay in Tahiti "indefinitely'?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (PY9jH)

75 No matter how the information was obtained, by relaxing the dissemination rules Obama made sure it would end up with journalists. This indicates he knew about it. This also means Comey lied yesterday yet again.

Now, is anybody going to ask "What did the president know and when did he know it."

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (Tm3Ti)

76 Jah, parody porn is a thing.

Actually the Sarah Palin one with Lisa Ann was pretty hot. But I kinda like Lisa Ann, so bias, there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (zsHGH)

77 63 So what is the end game here?

It is clear the Obama regime monitored and disseminated information from the trump campaign. It is likely none of it was technically illegal.

What can be done in response?
Posted by: 18-1 at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (9OgGE)

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Strike a blow at the overbroad intelligence powers of the federal government by riding Trump's anger to some kind of limiting legislation that he pushes through Congress?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (ELUpj)

78 Funnest part is how the media is all but openly admitting that this is all a #FakeNews hit job; most clearly in points 3 and 22 above.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (9AVZA)

79 Please listen carefully, because this is VERY important, was it legitimate "wire tap"

Posted by: Todd Akin at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (HnvBz)

80 Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, Alyson Camerota, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, et al on suicide watch.

Film at 11:00.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (PY9jH)

Can we send in methods? Highest number of likes wins?

Posted by: Infidel at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (uKRys)

81 53
Vic,
If you are in Charleston, SC we should get together. Hope you are ok.


Posted by: Fake at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (eypV6)

Just got back, and praise be, this was my last trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give that a few more days.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

82
23 My theory is that Obama admin was spying on Trump the whole time and only used the FISA warrants as cover to disseminate the information.
Posted by: MAGA
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I was thinking something like this after Levin read off the NYT articles referencing wiretapping. They didn't think that it was a problem ... President Hillary would make sure that it all was okay.

After Trump won, their whole plan went to shit.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (KakCb)

83 Begin every press briefing with the salutation:

"You motherfuckers" comma, paragraph.

Posted by: Dave at Buffalo Roam at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (TUzCS)

84 Off cop sock..

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (hUtue)

85 70 So, it's all true then? Obama really did spy on Trump?


Who would have guessed that?
Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (JALpR)

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"Wait...are you saying that the man in charge of the intelligence community might have had more information than us?"
-MSM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (ELUpj)

86 Why Fox doesn't give this story to James Rosen to cover is a mystery.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (PY9jH)

87 Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, Alyson Camerota, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, et al on suicide watch.

Film at 11:00.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:29 PM (PY9jH)


RUN AWAY!! RUN AWAAAAAAY!!!!!

Posted by: Brave Sir Keith Olbermann at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (qoAfa)

88 Tahiti has no extradition treaty, right?

Hey, all I ever wanted was to be rich and live in an exotic land!

Yes, Paolo, I think I will have another Mai Tai, now that my $60 million check has cleared!

Posted by: Barry from Kalorama at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (3OAG2)

89 18. "Yes," he says, when asked if actual Trump team communications are included in the intelligence reports.


Boom.

Now, again, please use the puppets, but is this for stuff pre-election or post?

I'm so confused.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (mf5HN)

90 Just got back, and praise be, this was my last trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give that a few more days.
Posted by: Vic



Awesome news!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (Uohrc)

91 Nunes is violating Chaplinsky with this press conference

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (OD2ni)

92 MSM headlines: Nunes confirms Trump lied about physical wiretap


You know it's coming.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (NOIQH)

93 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

Great news, Vic. Thanks be to God!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (fDdVG)

94 57 I think he lives upstate.



Otherwise I think I would have tried to meet him by now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (ELUpj)

I live about 50 miles from the NC border.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (mpXpK)

95 Congratulations, Vic.

Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (zSVEm)

96 FB just had an article that Vince Foster was dis-interned for autopsy.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at March 22, 2017 03:31 PM


If only I'd dis-interned Monica ...

Posted by: Billy Bob Clinton at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (DMUuz)

97 If Obama asked for asylum in France my erection might prove fatal.But they'd find me with a big old smile....

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (r/0kC)

98 81 53
Vic,
If you are in Charleston, SC we should get together. Hope you are ok.


Posted by: Fake at March 22, 2017 03:32 PM (eypV6)

Just got back, and praise be, this was my last trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give that a few more days.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

Woohooo! Congratulations Vic!

Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (RD7QR)

99 MSM headlines: Nunes confirms Trump lied about physical wiretap
You know it's coming.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (NOIQH)
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Yep. Tweeting without the facts...

Posted by: RioBravo at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (SsblQ)

100 Was listening to the press breafing on way home, so maybe the medias reports are not fake news

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (GPaiX)

101
Just got back, and praise be, this was my last
trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all
restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give
that a few more days.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (mpXpK)


That is the BEST news! So happy for you, Vic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (PY9jH)

102 62 Of course, Egg McMuffin is made at Nunes.
Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM (OD2ni)
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Even more surprising totally true conservative Jennifer Rubin agrees.

Posted by: Independent George at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (BDZWU)

103 >>>Now, again, please use the puppets, but is this for stuff pre-election or post?

earlier statements by Nunes said these collections happened post election, in nov, dec, january. (Also know as "The Moment the Resistance Cells got activated.")

Posted by: ace at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (8rNrN)

104 78 Funnest part is how the media is all but openly admitting that this is all a #FakeNews hit job; most clearly in points 3 and 22 above.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at March 22, 2017 03:35 PM (9AVZA)

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If this turns out to be true, the whole wiretapping thing without an actual wiretap, the IC and media will have shot themselves in the foot pretty egregiously.

As in, Trump can stomp them endlessly when they counter him, and more people will believe Trump than the MSM.

Lesson folks, if you're going to strike at the king, don't miss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (ELUpj)

105 You reminded me Xhamster (porn site) was searching for a Trump lookalike for a porn parody thy are making.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:34 PM


??? So the Pixy Hamsters have been...um...trying to pay their way through nursing school? This could shed some light on the conditions inside The Barrel.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (p+Wdc)

106 Great news Vic!

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (r/0kC)

107 Yeah, ValJar came in as the house sitter. I see that now.

Posted by: booknlass at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (8mO0Q)

108 The world is full of stairs. How can America possibly have a president who's afraid of them?

Posted by: This Is CNN at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (8ZskC)

109 Great news Vic!

Posted by: IP at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (hUtue)

110 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM

Awesome news!

Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (vtcmf)

111 >>It is clear the Obama regime monitored and disseminated information from the trump campaign. It is likely none of it was technically illegal

I wouldn't say that it's likely that it wasn't illegal. In fact, it seems highly likely that at least some of what was done was highly illegal.

Again, if the whistleblower claim is true then this could go to another level. Whistleblowers don't report on things that are legal.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (/tuJf)

112 Vic,

Great news!!!

Did they confirm your carbon dating age? And if so, can you sign an autograph for me in Sumerian?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (B+qrE)

113 Good news, Vic. Congrats.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (zsHGH)

114 Actually the Sarah Palin one with Lisa Ann was pretty hot. But I kinda like Lisa Ann, so bias, there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


I doubt that Lisa Ann is coming out of retirement soon. Word is she deflated and went back to normal life.

*Lights single match and holds in air in respect*

*burns finger*

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (ZFUt7)

115 Great news, Vic!

Posted by: Infidel at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (uKRys)

116 94 I live about 50 miles from the NC border.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (mpXpK)

================

I thought so...

Great news, by the way!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (ELUpj)

117 I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give that a few more days.
Posted by: Vic


Excellent, Vic, so happy for you and your lovely bride!

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (nNdYv)

118 Onca again, in his tweet Trump put wiretapped in quotes. He meant surveilled or spied upon.

MSM reporters are being willfully blind to this, obviously, so that they can keep spinning it as Trump lied about President Precious, instead of the Obamans are sneaky diabolical shits.

The unmasking and dissemination are killer facts. It shows that it wasn't accidental or incidental, but purposeful.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM (SIY7D)

119 here's the analogy for "incidentally intercepted" comms of trump team. It's like when you start dating a girl and she turns around to change her shirt and you incidentally watch her boobs through her reflection in a mirror she's not aware of.

you know, you're not at the "I get to start at you naked stage but the 'tee hee, turn around, silly' phase"

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (55//3)

120 Good news Vic!

How soon till you can return to porch-sipping?

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (KakCb)

121 "The reports I was able to see did not have anything to do with the Russian ties investigation."

"Yes," he says, when asked if actual Trump team communications are included in the intelligence reports.
........


He thinks it was legal collection, but then possibly illegal dissemination.

Was it information monitored in real time, or was it captured,
stored, then sifted through later? He says it happened "pretty quickly,"
i.e., near real time.

Press: "Are you attempting to give the president cover for his
wiretapping claim?" Of course they ask this. He answers that many
documents do not seem to rise to having any foreign intelligence value,
which makes him wonder why US citizens were unmasked in the reports.


WTF?!



So Obama was "legally" wiretapping or surveilling or collecting communications information from ( however, you want to slice it semantically - but surveilling it definitely is) members of the Trump transition team (i.e Trump Campaign affiliated people) and this surveillance had NOTHING to do with "Russia ties" (not surprising since there are none). And we are now supposed to believe that this is all A-OK - totes fine - and was only "incidental" and ONLY commenced after the election. Mmm hmmm? Sure. The Obama admin just happened to be surveilling Trump people after the election - just accidentally, just simply slipped right into their computer files. Mmm hmmm. Perefectly reasonable - nothing to see here - move along back to that "Manafort did some work for the Russian President in 2005" story again - cause RUSSIA, Trump iligitm`t! Eleventy!

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (Fb9aZ)

122 How many bytes of data and lines of print have been devoted to speculation about the possibility that Trump was under investigation for something?

vs.

How much of the same was devoted to the actual, confirmed investigations of Hillary and Associates? (excluding the vast amount of digital and physical ink used to complain about how unfair it was and be dismissive of facts)

Posted by: Damiano at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (n3oGs)

123 Yaaaay Vic!


earlier statements by Nunes said these collections happened post election, in nov, dec, january. (Also know as "The Moment the Resistance Cells got activated.")
Posted by: ace at March 22, 2017 03:38 PM (8rNrN)


That's the hook for the press since Trump's tweets were about stuff prior to the election.


I still am sticking with my completely nonfactually supported belief that Trump was shown documentation about that and when the time is right down comes the boom.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)

124 Now would be a good time to release a 'tell all' book from some Obama Admin insider. Could be worth millions.

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (JALpR)

125 >>>>>Remember during the early days of the transition, when Trump was getting
irritated that aspects of his meetings were being leaked to the press?



Related?
.
.
.
.Yep and they are still doing the same thing but now they are wiretapping the friggin White House.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (le7jz)

126 Obama seems to have segued neatly into his true calling of Community Agitator, or merely a trouble- making anarchist.

Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (zSVEm)

127 And there is a terrorist attack in London, 4 dead, not sure of particulars

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (GPaiX)

128 Bullet Point 23 is a killer.
-----
And don't forget the reporters, foreign leaders and members of congress under Obama surveillance.

http://tinyurl.com/hve3efh

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (8b+oT)

129 And if so, can you sign an autograph for me in Sumerian?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:39 PM


You're gonna have to stand on his lawn to get it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (DMUuz)

130 so basically, foreign intel gathering was focused on trump towers to pick up whatever incidental information it could half-hazardly disavow while allowing it do be disseminated throughout obama's minions in the fed deep state.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (55//3)

131 Well sure he was under surveillance,but no wires were actually tapped....
The MFM

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (r/0kC)

132 Wait. Trump was staring at some chick's boobs in a mirror?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (8ZskC)

133 WTF? My comment just got eaten. Must have pissed off the Pixy Hamsters with that last crack.

Anyhoo, great news, Vic!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (p+Wdc)

134 Just got back, and praise be, this was my last
trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all
restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. ...

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party

Thank God! So happy for you and your family, Vic, Sir. Yes!!

Posted by: booknlass at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (8mO0Q)

135 Barak know this was coming sooner or later so got out of Dodge?

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:41 PM (GPaiX)

136 Congrats Vic glad to hear

Posted by: Rick in SK at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (FZYNt)

137 earlier statements by Nunes said these collections happened post election, in nov, dec, january. (Also know as "The Moment the Resistance Cells got activated
====

Whoa.
I thought we were still talking about August.
Surveillance on a sitting President-elect?

Shit is in fact real.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (KakCb)

138 Ok. Husband in London is ok

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (JzMyg)

139 Remember during the early days of the transition, when Trump was getting
irritated that aspects of his meetings were being leaked to the press?



Related?
.
.
.
.Yep and they are still doing the same thing but now they are wiretapping the friggin White House.


****


I'm sticking with the valet was happy to leak whatever bullshit story the NYT's wanted to hear.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (55//3)

140 http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/03/terror-attack-outside-uk-parliament/#more-206777

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (GPaiX)

141 BREAKING: Obama and ValJar have just applied for Tahitian citizenship.

Developing...

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (8ZskC)

142 My money's on Alex's bet

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (zsHGH)

143 Now would be a good time to release a 'tell all' book from some Obama Admin insider. Could be worth millions.

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (JALpR)


I'm still gobsmacked some publishing house gave $60 mil to Barry and Michael for their memoirs.


Bill Ayers is going to be busy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (PY9jH)

144 I want to see both Clapper and Brennan frog marched in chains. Slimy, dishonest cocksuckers.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (/tuJf)

145
Just got back, and praise be, this was my last trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give that a few more days.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party


You can rap your knuckles and jump for joy.
You got a clean bill of health from doctor McCoy.

Congratulations!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (IqV8l)

146 "135 Barak know this was coming sooner or later so got out of Dodge?"


Honestly, I would rather see Ben Rhodes go down for this than Obama or Jarrett. Smug little prick.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (OD2ni)

147 brb, gotta go troll some of the LIV/libs on the gorsuch livestream

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (nNdYv)

148 I still am sticking with my completely nonfactually
supported belief that Trump was shown documentation about that and when
the time is right down comes the boom.

Posted by: alexthechick
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In my screenplay for all this Trump would wait until key members, like Comey, testified under oath and then lower the boom, adding perjury to the charges.

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (8b+oT)

149 Hooray Vic!

Posted by: CGI Princess Leia at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (7HtZB)

150 Number One with a bullet point.

Posted by: Nathan Arizona at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (2SERm)

151 Putin, Xi, and Ayatollah Whatever may love what should happen, but it needs to happen anyway.

The US needs to gut the FBI, DHS, and every other "intelligence" agency.

Everything vacuumed up domestically needs to be purged, and the collection apparatus needs to be dismantled.

I would rather risk terrorist attacks than this electronic Gestapo peering into everything everyone does.

Besides, when was the last time they stopped an actual terrorist plot they didn't invent, finance, and implement with a couple brain dead patsies?

Posted by: rd at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (iT57s)

152 What are the odds that the 'intelligence community' intercepted Hillary's communications?

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (JALpR)

153 You better believe that this shit happens on a state and local level as well. Abuse of power is a freaking epidemic in our country.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (MwiFE)

154 HURRAY !
Congratulations, Vic !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (9AVZA)

155 AtC, here's something you'll be interested in:

http://www.fieldandstream.com/testing-x15-flame-thrower

Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (DMUuz)

156 I am very glad to hear that ThunderB.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (mf5HN)

157

Bet the unmaskers are also leakers

Somebody needs to go to jail

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (JzMyg)

158 I still am sticking with my completely nonfactually supported belief that Trump was shown documentation about that and when the time is right down comes the boom.

Right there with you.

He didn't say what he said without some kind of proof. I note that the Attorney General has been very quiet about this matter.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (B+qrE)

159 Vic, I'm raising big mug of beer to your health this evening!

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (8b+oT)

160 What are the odds that the 'intelligence community' intercepted Hillary's communications?

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (JALpR)


Everybody intercepted Shrillary's communications. ALl you needed was a plunger.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (zc3Db)

161 So what is the end game here?

It is clear the Obama regime monitored and disseminated information from the trump campaign. It is likely none of it was technically illegal.

What can be done in response?


Force them to put up or shut up. Their goal is death by 1,000 papercuts. No actual evidence of malfeasance will be produced, but they'll continue pushing "troubling reports" to their buddies in the MSM, demanding investigations, and claiming Trump shouldn't be allowed to enact his agenda while under a cloud of suspicion.
Trump just has to ignore them and push ahead with his agenda. That's what will make or break him, not the expected political witch hunt from the Dems and media.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (B6OKy)

162 I want to see both Clapper and Brennan frog marched in chains. Slimy, dishonest cocksuckers.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (/tuJf)



THIS and add Comey

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (493sH)

163 were properly minimized

I wish they'd use anonymized or de-individualized. Because the only thing getting minimized is the 4th Amendment.

Posted by: DaveA at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (FhXTo)

164 What are the odds that the 'intelligence community' intercepted Hillary's communications?

Dude, EVERYBODY intercepted Hillary's communications.

Posted by: The Russians, The Chinese, The Norks, The Israelis, The Turks, The Filipinos, The Aussies, The Brits at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (8ZskC)

165 Ok. Husband in London is ok

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (JzMyg)


Great news. Tell him to stay safe and avoid being around men with neck beards.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (PY9jH)

166 >>I note that the Attorney General has been very quiet about this matter.

Well he recused himself so not likely he will be commenting.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (/tuJf)

167 This is a coordinated campaign against the Outsider, and the reform he brings with him.

Posted by: CNN at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (oVJmc)

168 What are the odds that the 'intelligence community' intercepted Hillary's communications?
Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM

My guess 0 %

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (GPaiX)

169
We got Full Vic, again?

Posted by: iSoothsayer iPro iLX at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (h/vLr)

170 Vic,

Glad to hear the good news!

Posted by: rd at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (iT57s)

171 I guarandamnteeyou that the bastards parked down the street from Trump routinely and StingRayed his conversations. Cops do it all the time in their own private wars against gangs/crooks out on the street. I betcha the Russians?Chinese etc do it too. I betcha they pointed window glass and parabolic collection readers at him. All off books.

Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (QgFG+)

172 AtC, here's something you'll be interested in:

http://www.fieldandstream.com/testing-x15-flame-thrower
Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (DMUuz)


That is relevant to my interests.

Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 22, 2017 03:46 PM (mf5HN)

173 How the hell does anybody think that our country can survive when the media - the institution responsible for providing the information that a self governing citizenry needs to make informed decisions - is wholly in the tank for one Party?
Seriously.
And saying that we just need to accept it is not an answer.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 22, 2017 03:46 PM (FoTxO)

174 Obama admin: we weren't spying on Trump, we just happen to have all this incidental information collected on him and his associates

Posted by: MAGA at March 22, 2017 03:46 PM (A4HOq)

175 Hillary losing upset quite a few expectations and, perhaps, left quite a few posteriors exposed.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 22, 2017 03:46 PM (hLRSq)

176 "Press: "Are you attempting to give the president cover for his wiretapping claim?" Of course they ask this."

--------

I always thought the term wiretapping was shorthand for overall surveillance, something press would use in a headline.

If anybody asked a normal person, that is someone other than a journalist, what they understood the term meant they would get the same answer.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 03:46 PM (Tm3Ti)

177 right on ace.
this spy stuff is right up your alley.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (hyCJn)

178 >>I still am sticking with my completely nonfactually supported belief
that Trump was shown documentation about that and when the time is right
down comes the boom.



I hope you're right.

That he was tweeting about this in the early a.m. out of nowhere seemed to be indication he was operating on more than a hunch - more like someone had showed him something and he was pissed off. Especially since one of his tweets was about making a good legal case:

I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that
President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to
Election!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (NOIQH)

179 Abu Izzaden

mentally ill lone wolf

& Muslim cleric

Allah be praised y'all

Posted by: ed gibbon at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (HnvBz)

180 And there is a terrorist attack in London, 4 dead, not sure of particulars
Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (GPaiX)

Nothing to worry about. It was an Asian guy.

Now, you're thinking Asian as in slanted eyes, yellow skin, though time growing a beard, etc.

No, it was the other kind. Round eyes, dark skin, beard. You know. Kinda like those white hispanic guys.

We'll likely never know his motive but I am sure all the followers of Mohammed he hooked up with tried their best to talk him out of this kind of stuff.

Posted by: Damiano at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (n3oGs)

181 163 were properly minimized

I wish they'd use anonymized or de-individualized. Because the only thing getting minimized is the 4th Amendment.
Posted by: DaveA at March 22, 2017 03:45 PM (FhXTo)

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Insomniac - sin valor at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (0mRoj)

182 It would be a damn shame if one of Kim Jung-un's ICBMs went haywire and exploded over Tahiti.

Posted by: Fritz at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (2Mnv1)

183 120
Good news Vic!



How soon till you can return to porch-sipping?

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (KakCb)


http://tinyurl.com/ltpjz6p

Technically I could start now but I want to get my diet straightened out first. I think no more than a few days.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (mpXpK)

184 >>>>>I note that the Attorney General has been very quiet about this matter.



Well he recused himself so not likely he will be commenting.
.
.
.He recused himself from anything to do with the Russian connection and Nunes specifically said there is nothing in what he was given that had any Russian connection.

Ipso facto ergo facto....he can get all over this and start investigating.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (le7jz)

185 "166 >>I note that the Attorney General has been very quiet about this matter.

Well he recused himself so not likely he will be commenting.
Posted by: JackStraw"


I believe the recusal only applies to Russia and Nunes says this is unrelated.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM (OD2ni)

186 All your lunch r belong to us.

Posted by: Trump, Inc. at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (GX63o)

187 Hillary losing upset quite a few expectations and, perhaps, left quite a few posteriors exposed.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH
-----
It apparently upset over $1,000,000,000 in expectations for George Soros.

RICO!!!

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (8b+oT)

188 Hillary losing upset quite a few expectations and, perhaps, left quite a few posteriors exposed.

Speaking from my perch...you have no idea. The level of denial still extant is remarkable.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (B+qrE)

189 Remember in 2009 the leaked MIAC report that named Christian Conservatives, 2nd admendment activists, Vets, Constitutionalists, Ron Paul supporters, ect as the new enemies of the state for law enforcement to watch and monitor. And Janet Napolitano confirmed this later.

East Germnay and the USSR type stuff. Citizens need to pushback against this shit. Don't think for a second that people who abuse power will not manufacture evidence.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (MwiFE)

190 great news Vic, congrats on the clean bill of health!

Posted by: nuke it from orbit at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (559UZ)

191 >>Ipso facto ergo facto....he can get all over this and start investigating.

Start being the key word. That just happened a few minutes ago. Previously, it was all about Russia.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (/tuJf)

192 Fabulous news, Vic!!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (NOIQH)

193 186 All your lunch r belong to us.
Posted by: Trump, Inc. at March 22, 2017 03:48 PM (GX63o)

====


LOL

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (KakCb)

194 SLAM FUCKING DUNK, TRUMP!!!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (q177U)

195 spy stuff is right up your alley
-----
That sounds dirty. No way I'm Googling it.

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8b+oT)

196 If Barry really likes the beach, I hear Somalia is nice this time of year. The whole country is a beach, oh and the cuisine is to die for.

Posted by: wth at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (HgMAr)

197 Media's obsession with the term wiretapping is actually ass covering, both their own and Obamas. By clinging to it they are confirming to the general public that all news is now fake.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (Tm3Ti)

198 127
And there is a terrorist attack in London, 4 dead, not sure of particulars

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (GPaiX)

Fox has the details up at their site.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (mpXpK)

199 From Wikipedia:

"Telephone tapping (also wire tapping or wiretapping in American English) is the monitoring of telephone and Internet conversations by a third party, often by covert means."

Any questions?

I think the microparsing the word "wiretapping" is a dead issue.

Posted by: TB at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (wNx6K)

200 I believe the recusal only applies to Russia and Nunes says this is unrelated.

Ding Ding Ding

If there are Trump comms on general campaign matters being bandied about as intelligence products, and that seems to be what Nunes said, this is at least two levels of magnitude worse than Watergate.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (B+qrE)

201 195 Spy stuff right up his alley.Obama in Tahiti.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (r/0kC)

202 It's amazing and mind boggling that law a binding citizens are being targeted while George Soros and his proxies are protected.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (MwiFE)

203
What are the odds that the 'intelligence community' intercepted Hillary's communications?
Posted by: A. Stoic Lee


I intercepted Hillary's communications.

Posted by: Depends at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (IqV8l)

204  I guarandamnteeyou that the bastards parked down the street from Trump routinely and StingRayed his conversations. Cops do it all the time in their own private wars against gangs/crooks out on the street. I betcha the Russians?Chinese etc do it too. I betcha they pointed window glass and parabolic collection readers at him. All off books.
Posted by: torabora 

Please don't feed my paranoia. Neighbor called me this morning about two thugs wearing sunglasses who were parked outside my home for over an hour. He got their license plate and car description. This is someone I talk with maybe once or twice a year and is not the slightest bit looney.

A lot of strange shit going on with my computers and commenting here results in frequent blue screens of death.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (ZFUt7)

205 Damn those LIV/libtards trigger easy

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (nNdYv)

206 From Wikipedia:



"Telephone tapping (also wire tapping or wiretapping in American
English) is the monitoring of telephone and Internet conversations by a
third party, often by covert means."



Any questions?



I think the microparsing the word "wiretapping" is a dead issue.

Posted by: TB
-----
This.

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (8b+oT)

207 19. Who brought him the information? "Well I can tell you this -- we've been asking people to come forward, and they came through through the proper procedures" (i.e., in comportment with whistleblower statutes, I think he means)


Who brought him the information? People that want to do their job and don't leak to you snakes because they know you wouldn't report on it or would reveal their names as leaking intelligence secrets in order to get them fired.

Posted by: buzzion at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (z/Ubi)

208 >>> Obama admin: we weren't spying on Trump, we just happen to have all this incidental information collected on him and his associates
.....

*checks ObamaSpeak dictionary*

Man-caused disasters, workplace violence, kinetic military action, saved or created, keep your doctor spontaneous protest, mostly peaceful,... Ah! Yes! Here we are! Incidental Information.

Posted by: Damiano at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (n3oGs)

209 I think someone gave Jim Comey the high hard one for his testimony this week. My guess is disgruntled FBI employees who knew he was lying.

Posted by: Elliot at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (sf6We)

210 I, for one, thank obama and co. for making "incidental" surveillance
cool and acceptable, because think of the fun that could be had with
that in 2018 and 2020.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 22, 2017 03:51 PM (GX63o)

211 Remember in 2009 the leaked MIAC report that named Christian Conservatives, 2nd admendment activists, Vets, Constitutionalists, Ron Paul supporters, ect as the new enemies of the state for law enforcement to watch and monitor. And Janet Napolitano confirmed this later.

That massive wave of LEO resignations in protest sure was something. I have no idea how we survived it.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (/BTP8)

212 I betcha they pointed window glass and parabolic collection readers at him. All off books.
Posted by: torabora

I was just thinking about the proximity of o'butwad's new house. couldn't that be the spying headquarters?

and remember that CNN video of Bannon's gesticulations through the windows of the oval office. Where did that come from?

Posted by: booknlass at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (8mO0Q)

213 Hopefully Nunes had the info pre Comey appearance... a little purgery entrapment is good for the gander

Posted by: Scooter Libby at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (DpOmP)

214 I think the microparsing the word "wiretapping" is a dead issue.

They're not microparsing. Their understanding of technology is exactly zero.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (B+qrE)

215 >>> I think the microparsing the word "wiretapping" is a dead issue.
.....

That depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Posted by: Damiano at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (n3oGs)

216 "Because the only thing getting minimized is the 4th Amendment."

True dat, shrinking in the wash just like the 2nd.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, they are gaslighting us 24/7 at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (9AVZA)

217 Has Obama gone into hiding yet? Do we know if he is still in Tahiti? Has he been seen recently?

A month is a long time to sit on the beach and drink mojitos.

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (JALpR)

218 If this subversion and sedition is not stomped forcefully we will someday look back and say "this was when we lost our country".

Perhaps it's lost already and we're just going through the motions. Nobody can definitively state the actual date that the Roman Republic fell. Especially those who were alive at the time. Same with our times.

Posted by: LGoPs at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (FoTxO)

219 Posted by: Duncanthrax at March 22, 2017 03:43 PM (DMUuz)


Now, that's how you burn a ditch! Or whatever.

Posted by: Infidel at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (uKRys)

220 Spy stuff right up his alley.Obama in Tahiti.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (r/0kC)




Reggie is right up Barry's alley most of the time

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (493sH)

221 If Barry really likes the beach, I hear Somalia is nice this time of year. The whole country is a beach, oh and the cuisine is to die for.
Posted by: wth at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (HgMAr)



He should be sure to go during Pirate's Week.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2017 03:53 PM (8ZskC)

222 Barry took off for Tahiti within hours of a huge 200 million dollar cocaine bust on the Lady Michelle. Appearently those busted had very close ties to him.

The War profiteering by folks in DC is out of control and has become very sloppy where they don't even hide it anymore.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 22, 2017 03:53 PM (MwiFE)

223 22
London terrorist Abu Izzadeen, well known British Islamic extremist who
has previously served time for his role in inciting other attacks in US
and U.K.



Posted by: Malcolm Tent at March 22, 2017 03:28 PM (gtQ/3)

Izzadeen?Any relation to Daffy Dean?

Posted by: Publius Redux at March 22, 2017 03:53 PM (Fb9aZ)

224 Non-consensual butseks for the lot of them

Posted by: Warden Norton at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (DpOmP)

225

Mika, Joe, Chris Cuomo, Alyson Camerota, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow, et al on suicide watch.

-------

Down the Street, Not Across!

Parallel Lines.

Posted by: Final Exit at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (iT57s)

226 Comey no lie, Comey had his fingers crossed

Posted by: runner at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (c6/9Q)

227 "Wiretapping" is the new "edited video."

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (8b+oT)

228 "Wiretapping" is something that involves those little roach clip thingies.

Posted by: The MSM, Now New and Improved With 20% More Objectivity at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (8ZskC)

229 Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 04:51 PM

Don't worry. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (DMUuz)

230 I still am sticking with my completely nonfactually supported belief that Trump was shown documentation about that and when the time is right down comes the boom.
Posted by: alexthechick - rrraaawwwrrr at March 22, 2017 03:40 PM (mf5HN)



I shall stick with my belief that if Trump were to have actual evidence complete with Obama on video ordering this be done that the press would still refuse to believe him and claim that all evidence Trump has released vindicating himself is false fabrication because they all know he's just a Russian stooge.

Posted by: buzzion at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (z/Ubi)

231 >>> 19. Who brought him the information? "Well I can tell you this -- we've been asking people to come forward, and they came through through the proper procedures"
......

I'm not saying it was the Russians, but it was the Russians.

Likely Russian Alien Nazis.

Posted by: Damiano at March 22, 2017 03:54 PM (n3oGs)

232 LegalInsurrection has pictures and photo maps on the terrorist attack.

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (GPaiX)

233 If Trump was really Hitler, the Left has given him quite an opening for a Reichstag fire. Just let a known terrorist in from one of the banned countries in the "unconstitutional" EO, and set him up with a bomb, a van, and directions to Times Square.

Of course, if Trump was really Hitler, people wouldn't be climbing over each other to publicly criticize him at every turn. They'd actually be in hiding.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (B6OKy)

234 wait until the election fraud is exposed

Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (QgFG+)

235 Is the " Deep State" meme still a thing? All this subversion seems to be well past what I understand that to be, and is more in line with, well, subversion and the intent to overthrow the government, using nonviolent means. For now.

Posted by: kraken at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (zSVEm)

236 Wiretapping? Like Morse code?

Posted by: HILLARY!!! at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (8b+oT)

237 That massive wave of LEO resignations in protest sure was something. I have no idea how we survived it.
Posted by ScoggDogg
===

Yes because everyone in law enforcement knows that child molestation investigations must be dropped and you must immediately quit your human trafficking operation to keep an Internet tough guy troll happy.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (KakCb)

238 And still no smoking gun!!!!

Posted by: dananjcon at March 22, 2017 03:56 PM (WLK0w)

239 >>>He thinks it was legal collection, but then possibly illegal dissemination.

This sentence also describes my digestion of Taco Bell.

Posted by: wooga at March 22, 2017 03:56 PM (G5fL2)

240 Dakota pipeline access has been sabotaged in two states causing tens of thousands in damage

Posted by: Skip at March 22, 2017 03:56 PM (GPaiX)

241 Of course, if Trump was really Hitler, people wouldn't be climbing over each other to publicly criticize him at every turn. They'd actually be in hiding.
Posted by: gewa76


He's going to send me to a CAMP!!!

Posted by: Sally Kohn at March 22, 2017 03:56 PM (FZYNt)

242 Nunes Press Conference Bullet Points
-- Ace



MEDIA ALERT: Another extreme right-wing blogger on a hate site calls for political assassinations.

Posted by: The Southern Poverty Law Center at March 22, 2017 03:56 PM (8ZskC)

243 >>"Wiretapping" is something that involves those little roach clip thingies.



Posted by: The MSM, Now New and Improved With 20% More Objectivity



Like when Jason Statham dresses up like a Telco guy, walks into the high-rise, opens up that metal box thingy with all the wires 'n stuff and clips something on it? Thanks, Hollywood!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 03:56 PM (NOIQH)

244
Wiretapping? Like Morse code?
Posted by: HILLARY!!


Nevermore

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 22, 2017 03:57 PM (IqV8l)

245 "I think the microparsing the word "wiretapping" is a dead issue."

It is a mark of desperation, one of those things that when an ordinary person hears it they say "Aha! Guilty as I thought!"

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 22, 2017 03:57 PM (hLRSq)

246
Don't worry. Nothing to see here.
Posted by: Bob from NSA 

Thanks, Bob.

I should apologize for using the word 'thugs' because that implies POC. But I'm not going to.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 03:57 PM (ZFUt7)

247 Am I missing something, or has there still been no thread on AoS about today's London terror attack?

If not, why not?

American internecine political squabbles suddenly have been moved to my mental back burner.

Posted by: zombie at March 22, 2017 03:57 PM (DQ4Fv)

248 Of course, if Trump was really Hitler, people wouldn't be climbing over each other to publicly criticize him at every turn. They'd actually be in hiding.




I said that earlier. If Trump was literally setting up camps, we wouldn't have to worry about "how do we get rid of these unfireable staffers?"

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2017 03:57 PM (Uohrc)

249 wait until the election fraud is exposed
Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 03:55 PM (QgFG+)

Never heard of it.

Unless, of course, you are talking about Trump partnering with Russians to corrupt the election, then...

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at March 22, 2017 03:58 PM (n3oGs)

250 People who end up being implicated in this (illegal) surveillance need to be named. Names and faces. Handed termination papers explaining loss of pension, etc.

Put names and faces out there. Tarnish the reputations as they are frogmarched out of DC. In front of cameras.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 22, 2017 03:58 PM (jxbfJ)

251 So, how many of republican senators and congressmen knew about trump and co surveillance ?

Posted by: runner at March 22, 2017 03:58 PM (c6/9Q)

252 "...this is at least two levels of magnitude worse than Watergate."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:50 PM (B+qrE)

Nearly every Obama and/or Clinton scandal one can name has been at least two levels of magnitude worse than the Watergate break-in and cover-up. I argue that Nixon is no longer the measure for that sort of thing.

Comes to that, Nixon would never have left those brave men in Benghazi to die without making a rescue attempt.

Nixon was a deeply flawed human being in a number of ways but he loved and believed in this country, which is more than I can say for Obama and the Clintons.

Posted by: troyriser at March 22, 2017 03:58 PM (Fw5cQ)

253 "Honestly, I would rather see Ben Rhodes go down for this than Obama or Jarrett. Smug little prick."

Rhodes is my favorite too.

Trying to jail Obama is too Third World and hard to convict.

The joy with Rhodes is that the NYT wrote that article where he bragged about playing MSM like a fiddle in his Echo Chamber. Let MSM try to defend him.

The Trumpsters need an indictment of someone like Rhodes.

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 22, 2017 03:58 PM (SIY7D)

254 so, let me make stuff up like they do in the MSM:

ValJar comes to Obama and tells him that they have a source that claims Trump and Manafort are talking to people connected to Putin about turning off the credit card address verification system so the Russians can buy a ton of pre-paid debit cards and make illegal donations to the Trump campaign...

"You mean like we did in 2008?"

"Yes, just like that."

"But that's illegal! this needs to be investigated..!"


[See? legitimate investigation, and Obama never needed to 'order' it]

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 22, 2017 03:58 PM (b7fwp)

255 Child porn ? Who cares ! Forced labor and immigrant trafficking? Let that shit happen!

Ruin your cases, destroy criminal investigations and link arms and walk out the front door. Becaus someone on the internet doesn't like you.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (KakCb)

256 >>>He thinks it was legal collection, but then possibly illegal dissemination.



This sentence also describes my digestion of Taco Bell.

Posted by: wooga
-----
Congratulations on digesting it. I'm only able to liquify Taco Bell.

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (8b+oT)

257
General has been very quiet about this matter.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 03:44 PM (B+qrE)


He recused himself from the Russian investigation but if this new info has nothing to do with the Russians then he should be laeding up the investigation.

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (lKyWE)

258 I'm beginning to think there isn't one honest soul in the government. Anywhere.

Posted by: Infidel at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (uKRys)

259 Has Obama gone into hiding yet? Do we know if he is still in Tahiti? Has he been seen recently?

A month is a long time to sit on the beach and drink mojitos.

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:52 PM (JALpR)
...............

"I'm sorry Sir, but your credit card has been declined." - Papeete Cabana Boy

Posted by: wth at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (HgMAr)

260 It would be hilarious if the NY Times reporter who says there is video of the Trump golden shower incident actually saw a porn parody.

Posted by: steevy at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (r/0kC)

261 I have been pretty adamant about this: the Flynn situation made Trump's tweets objectively true.

Flynn had his conversation recorded (otherwise no transcript possible) and he was in Trump Tower when it was done. The Obama administration did it, and it was someone in the Obama administration who leaked it improperly.

Posted by: blaster at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (vi2lc)

262 One other thing I got to see was AL Franken interviewing Gorsuch. He has to be the stupidest SOB ever put in the Senate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (mpXpK)

263 Re: London traffic incident near parliament.

Local news

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (JALpR)

264 O/T related to attacks in London:

From the NY Post:
Those damn Methodists again.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9xjnx6

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (jxbfJ)

265 Obama and his minions remind of Natasha Boris of Bullwinkle.

Posted by: dananjcon at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (WLK0w)

266 Vic,

Just the greatest news!

Posted by: washrivergal at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (Ivjge)

267 What did the Prezident know and when did he know it? Is the question they won't ask.

Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (QgFG+)

268 Technically I could start now but I want to get my diet straightened out first. I think no more than a few days.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:47 PM


So...you're saying there could be a brown liquor surplus for the next few days?

*looks around for extra Mason jars*

Posted by: Vic's neighbor at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (p+Wdc)

269 Awesome news, Vic!

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (9krrF)

270 Am I missing something, or has there still been no thread on AoS about today's London terror attack? If not, why not? American internecine political squabbles suddenly have been moved to my mental back burner.
Posted by: zombie 


A possible assassination attempt on the head of Britain -- she being little more than 100 feet away -- by a radicalized Islamist? Who kills four and injures 20?

Yeah, that's pretty big.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (ZFUt7)

271 One other thing I got to see was AL Franken interviewing Gorsuch. He has to be the stupidest SOB ever put in the Senate.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:59 PM (mpXpK)




Carol Moseley Braun: *cough* *cough*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (493sH)

272 >>One other thing I got to see was AL Franken interviewing Gorsuch. He has to be the stupidest SOB ever put in the Senate.

He already had to ask for extra time so he could apologize to Gorsuch for making a false claim. That was pretty sweet.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (/tuJf)

273 Can the JEF be impeached after he is out of office?

Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (QgFG+)

274 Correction -
The claim of who the terrorist was is now being withdrawn. Hmmmm.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (jxbfJ)

275 "The joy with Rhodes is that the NYT wrote that article where he bragged about playing MSM like a fiddle in his Echo Chamber. Let MSM try to defend him."


Also, being the smug d-bag that he is, he has probably been bragging to everyone about this for months. Will be much easier to build a case.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (OD2ni)

276 "Of course, if Trump was really Hitler, people wouldn't be climbing over each other to publicly criticize him at every turn. They'd actually be in hiding."

They would kowtowing faster than a coolie.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (hLRSq)

277 One other thing I got to see was AL Franken interviewing Gorsuch. He has to be the stupidest SOB ever put in the Senate.


Give the guy a break. He gets more laughs now than he ever did when he was a "comedian."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (8ZskC)

278 I hear F15s over the Negev

Posted by: ThunderB at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (JzMyg)

279 For the record, I think Trump was spied on by the Obama Administration, at least indirectly.


What I don't get is, why does Trump and his surrogates, spokespeople, etc basically have nothing to show and draw this out without answers?

I know one answer is "to give the people enough rope" but after a certain point with all of this unanswered and your FBI Director basically calling you a liar, how about showing what you have and heads start rolling?

I do think the longer this sits without a smoking gun, the more Trump loses credibility.

Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (9cYRJ)

280 I am pleased to announce that I have been appointed Ambassador at Large and Favorite Son by the government of Kenya.

My lawyers have informed me that this gives me full diplomatic immunity with retroactivity from prosecution for any US offenses.

So if you see me double parked, you best back off, Jack!

Posted by: Barry from Kalorama at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (3OAG2)

281 So, how many of republican senators and congressmen knew about trump and co surveillance ?

---

So how many senators and congressmen believe that they have been targets of Obama admin surveillance? It would explain their cowardly behavior for the last eight years.

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (JALpR)

282 Okay, time to restock the bar!

Posted by: Vic's Neighbor at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (vtcmf)

283 "He already had to ask for extra time so he could apologize to Gorsuch for making a false claim. That was pretty sweet."


Franken did thiat? That actually puts him above Reid, Durbin, Schumer and Leahy in my book.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 04:03 PM (OD2ni)

284 If it really was Abu Azzadeen, the UKL govt has some serious 'splainin' to do. That guy was already infamous and even I have long known about him for years as one of the unapologetically outspoken Islamic "preachers" who spend all day calling for the death of England and the triumph of Islam. They've thrown him in jail a couple times for inciting terrorism, but they always let him out after a very short time. One feels that they only jailed him in the first place to quell the public outrage, but as soon as the public's attention was turned elsewhere, the govt let him out again.

He has announced multiple times over the years that he himself plans to die in a suicide attack killing infidels...and yet, he has been allowed to roam free.

PC attitudes and policies in the UK govt. caused this. It was entirely preventable.

Posted by: zombie at March 22, 2017 04:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

285 Yes because everyone in law enforcement knows that child molestation investigations must be dropped and you must immediately quit your human trafficking operation to keep an Internet tough guy troll happy.

Well shit ... this is quite the pickel. Distrust Law Enforcement and take away a bunch of their powers to preserve our civil liberties ... but become The United States of Kiddie Sex and People Farming as a result.

You absolutely positive that we can't just fire most of 'em ?

Damn ... what to do. What. To. Do.

*taps chin*

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2017 04:03 PM (/BTP8)

286 UKL govt = UK govt

Posted by: zombie at March 22, 2017 04:03 PM (DQ4Fv)

287 23. Says he can't get into the issues here too specifically, but suggests people look into the "incidental collection" of data on Congress last year, because that case is similar to this one.
===========================
Because the deep state has been working Congress before they worked Trump.

Posted by: simplemind at March 22, 2017 04:03 PM (xVRrG)

288 "Give the guy a break. He gets more laughs now than he ever did when he was a "comedian."



You mean scene in Trading Places about whose turn it was to drive the fork lift didn't make you laugh?

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 04:04 PM (OD2ni)

289 F**k the media....

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:04 PM (O2RFr)

290 Because the deep state has been working Congress before they worked Trump.
Posted by: simplemind at March 22, 2017 04:03 PM (xVRrG)


Explains so much doesn't it?

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 04:04 PM (nNdYv)

291 274 Correction -
The claim of who the terrorist was is now being withdrawn. Hmmmm.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


Oh great. I fell for the 24-hour rule violation.

Posted by: zombie at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (DQ4Fv)

292 Okay, time to restock the bar!


Posted by: Vic's Neighbor at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (vtcmf)
**
Now that's a dog whistle if I ever heard one!Bottoms up!

Posted by: dananjcon at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (WLK0w)

293 There was a truck from a florist in front of my house for weeks

Flowers
By
Irene



if i remember correctly

Posted by: ed gibbon at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (LQhMs)

294 I do think the longer this sits without a smoking gun, the more Trump loses credibility.

Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (9cYRJ)

Yea that Trump is sure a dumb ass. How did he ever get elected???????????????

Posted by: m at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (QPdNE)

295 I live about 50 miles from the NC border.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (mpXpK)

I'm guessing you're in the vicinity of Hartsville.

Glad you're well!

Posted by: BignJames at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (x9c8r)

296 >>Says he can't get into the issues here too specifically, but suggests
people look into the "incidental collection" of data on Congress last
year, because that case is similar to this one.



I seem to recall DiFi finally got pissed off about NSA data collection after she learned that they were collecting her data.

It's OK when it's the little people, but when it's Senators? Well, then it is outrageous!

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (NOIQH)

297 >>Franken did thiat? That actually puts him above Reid, Durbin, Schumer and Leahy in my book.

Yep. And someone, I think it was Grassely, joked that an apology like that doesn't happen very often and everyone laughed. Not Franken though.

The whole hearing is a joke and a waste of time. I got bored and angry just listening to the dopes on the Democrats side making totally absurd assertions and asking stupid questions.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 04:05 PM (/tuJf)

298 Carol Moseley Braun: *cough* *cough*

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (493sH)

SENATOR Barbara Boxer

Posted by: dagny at March 22, 2017 04:06 PM (Mc+44)

299 OT: 4chan identified the British terrorist before we did in the US.

Posted by: shibumi at March 22, 2017 04:06 PM (FkAXz)

300 Glad to hear it Vic.

Hope you get the diet worked out. You still losing weight?

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:06 PM (KakCb)

301 >>I do think the longer this sits without a smoking gun, the more Trump loses credibility.



You concern is:
[x] Noted


Sounds like Nunes has the (a) smoking gun, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 04:07 PM (NOIQH)

302 Can the JEF be impeached after he is out of office?

Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 04:01 PM (QgFG+)
.............

The worst that will ever happen to Barry is getting his credit cards cut up.

Posted by: wth at March 22, 2017 04:07 PM (HgMAr)

303 so...Trump was not wiretapped. That is to say, a warrant was not issued to tap his phone and bug his office physically.

Instead, absent a warrant, they intercepted conversations from Trump and his team, then Obama ordered that those conversations be typed up and distributed widely inside the government.

Completely. Different.

Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at March 22, 2017 04:08 PM (UgF8H)

304 81
Just got back, and praise be, this was my last trip.
They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all
restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give
that a few more days.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:36 PM (mpXpK)

This is awesome news Vic. Prayers have been answered. Like I said -God isn't done with you yet.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 22, 2017 04:08 PM (jxbfJ)

305 OT: 4chan identified the British terrorist before we did in the US.

Posted by: shibumi


They buggered up the Boston Bomb Bros, remember. It's hit or miss there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil, keeper of the Deplorable Unicode Character at March 22, 2017 04:08 PM (9krrF)

306 For those who are waiting for the MSMenemy to sit up and take notice?

Stop waiting.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (KakCb)

307 so...Trump was not wiretapped. That is to say, a warrant was not issued to tap his phone and bug his office physically.

Instead, absent a warrant, they intercepted conversations from Trump and his team, then Obama ordered that those conversations be typed up and distributed widely inside the government.

Completely. Different.

****

and several FISA warrants were applied for. completely different. because shut up.

Posted by: Joe Inaugurating 45 in DC at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (55//3)

308 All your jeans are belong to us

Posted by: Chelsea Handler's dish towel at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (gbWkA)

309 Completely. Different.

And much, much worse.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (B+qrE)

310 "292 Okay, time to restock the bar!

Posted by: Vic's Neighbor"


What's your address? Hic.

Posted by: Hillary at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (OD2ni)

311 Seriously. did anyone here really not think that the top 1000+ members of the obama administration wouldn't need a sudden heart-disease epidemic??? Because being tied to Dohrn / Ayers et al would alone indicate what level of activism they would have out of power.

Posted by: Admiral Painter at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (DpOmP)

312 Totally OT

I just received a letter about some money I gave to the Orthodox church I gave for flowers for their Easter/Pascha season/Obviously they need to do this for tea purposes, but in addition to the usual "thanks for your contribution...." it says at the bottom from the priest:

No goods or services were received for this donation other than"Intangible religious benefits"

I have never gotten a later from a church which used that phrase: I almost spit out my soda,. I laughed so hard.

:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (fDdVG)

313 303 so...Trump was not wiretapped. That is to say, a warrant was not issued to tap his phone and bug his office physically.

Instead, absent a warrant, they intercepted conversations from Trump and his team, then Obama ordered that those conversations be typed up and distributed widely inside the government.

Completely. Different.
Posted by: George Orwell's Ghost at March 22, 2017 04:08 PM (UgF8H)

====================

"But because Trump used the word 'wiretap' in his initial tweets, that means that he's 100% and a meano liar."
-MSM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (ELUpj)

314 Sounds like Nunes has the (a) smoking gun, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy
___________

I hope so, but shouldn't the President of the United State that is in charge of all of these agencies like NSA, FBI, CIA, DOJ, etc and the one that had the info to make the charge of wiretapping also have the smoking gun?

Maybe its 3 dimensional chess, but it seems odd to me


Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (9cYRJ)

315 Obama could eat a live puppy on tv and the MFM would applaud his table manners.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (KakCb)

316 Sounds like Nunes has the (a) smoking gun, huh?

I hope he has some guns he trusts watching his back over the next few weeks.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (/BTP8)

317 What happens when the deep state goes to war with itself?

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (hLRSq)

318
I do think the longer this sits without a smoking gun, the more Trump loses credibility. Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (9cYRJ)

Yeah sure because Americans have such great trust in the intelligence community to be honest

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (lKyWE)

319 The only actual news I've seen relating to this surveillance story is ex-CIA head Michael Hayden on CNN claiming the unmasking of Americans caught up in incidental collection is actually legal and routine. He had an anecdote about John Bolton asking for exactly that, and it was the Dems who were needlessly rending garments over something totally above board.
That certainly doesn't tack with the stories about Obama changing intelligence sharing rules as he went out the door, and I trust any CIA talking head as far as I can throw them, so I'm skeptical.

Posted by: gewa76 at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (B6OKy)

320
Factoid:
There is no income tax treaty between the usa and Tahiti.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (ZFUt7)

321 Great news, Vic!!! So happy for you.

*back to temporary lurking*

Posted by: IC at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (a0IVu)

322 300
Glad to hear it Vic.



Hope you get the diet worked out. You still losing weight?

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:06 PM (KakCb)

I have it stabilized and maybe even picking some up now. Another reason for holding off on the porch.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

323 314 I hope so, but shouldn't the President of the United State that is in charge of all of these agencies like NSA, FBI, CIA, DOJ, etc and the one that had the info to make the charge of wiretapping also have the smoking gun?

Maybe its 3 dimensional chess, but it seems odd to me


Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (9cYRJ)

==================

Vindication in terms of evidence coming from Congress or from POTUS...which seems more independent to the average voter?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (ELUpj)

324 22. Press: "Are you attempting to give the president cover for his wiretapping claim?"

Nunes: "I don't know. Weren't you all covering for Obama while he was in office" "Next question..."

Posted by: Shinjinrui at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (h5hE3)

325 in many ways i will never relinquish power

Posted by: Barack Obama at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (DpOmP)

326 253
"Honestly, I would rather see Ben Rhodes go down for this than Obama or Jarrett. Smug little prick."


I would be interested to find out just how loyal Ben is when he is facing 10 years in the "pound you in the ass" prison.

Posted by: The Mouse that Roared at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (7N6ox)

327 315 Obama could eat a live puppy on tv and the MFM would applaud his table manners.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (KakCb)

===================

Classic, "the last time The Onion was funny" reference:

MSM trying to find positive angle in Obama's double homicide.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (ELUpj)

328 Every member of the press and every Democrat should die in a fire.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (MZcWR)

329 48 One can only imagine the frantic workings going on in the Obama's new digs in DC.

He's in French Polynesia for a Month without His Fam.... Coincidence?... Re-adjusts tin foil hat...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (O2RFr)

330 317 What happens when the deep state goes to war with itself?

KAOS, like in the Get Smart series

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (nNdYv)

331 Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:02 PM (9cYRJ)

Hmm. Every post you make is a knock on Trump or saying what he should have done or didn't do.....Hmmmmm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (fDdVG)

332 Media is hard. Let's go shopping!

Posted by: MSM at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (gbWkA)

333 No goods or services were received for this donation other than"Intangible religious benefits"

I have never gotten a later from a church which used that phrase: I almost spit out my soda,. I laughed so hard.

:
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (fDdVG)

FS, I'm pretty sure the translation for that is "Please don't kill me!"

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (X+nFp)

334 "315 Obama could eat a live puppy on tv and the MFM would applaud his table manners.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER!"


Hey buddy, don't give him any ideas. [nervously looks over shoulder]

Posted by: BO at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (OD2ni)

335 >>I hope so, but shouldn't the President of the United State that is in charge of all of these agencies like NSA, FBI, CIA, DOJ, etc and the one that had the info to make the charge of wiretapping also have the smoking gun?

One thing that doesn't happen is the release of sensitive information in the middle of an ongoing investigation. It's very possible that Trump was shown stuff and asked not to provide the evidence until the investigation is completed.

The goal here is not to prove Trump was spied on although that is important. The goal is to catch the people who were doing it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (/tuJf)

336 Even if, essentially, what the president said did indeed actually happen, it isn't, specifically, exactly what the president said happened.

So, the president has engaged in fake news.

Posted by: Jake Tapper's Serious Journalist at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (OwdyX)

337 Trump used the word 'wiretap' in his initial tweets because regular people understand what it means.

The MSM are now on the defensive.

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (KakCb)

338 you know, this attacked on UK parliament, and we had a number of security breaches at the WH recently

Posted by: runner at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (c6/9Q)

339 "Obama could eat a live puppy on tv and the MFM would applaud his table manners.



Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER!"

How would you describe the experience? Was it enchanting?

Posted by: Ripley at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (1BQGO)

340 337 Trump used the word 'wiretap' in his initial tweets because regular people understand what it means.

The MSM are now on the defensive.
Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (KakCb)

==================

"They will win!"
-Joe Scarborough

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (ELUpj)

341 Factoid:
There is no income tax treaty between the usa and Tahiti.


Tahiti is not an independent country. It's still a French possession.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 22, 2017 04:13 PM (B+qrE)

342 308
All your jeans are belong to us

Posted by: Chelsea Handler's mish towel at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (gbWkA)

Wha?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (GX63o)

343 Correction -
The claim of who the terrorist was is now being withdrawn. Hmmmm.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed


So, my bet on "Achmed" is still alive?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (zc3Db)

344 "They will win!"
-Joe Scarborough

It's gonna be long night for trump...

The stupid Media

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (O2RFr)

345 Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (X+nFp)

The priest was Military Chaplain in hot spots. I don't think he's put off by a few of my typos ;^), but I may write him back saying "Thanks so much for the intangible religious benefits"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (fDdVG)

346 "But because Trump used the word 'wiretap' in his initial tweets, that means that he's 100% and a meano liar."
-MSM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:10 PM (ELUpj)



CNN: You know who else used the word wiretap in his tweets?!?!?!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (493sH)

347 Yeah sure because Americans have such great trust in the intelligence community to be honest
Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 22, 2017 04:11 PM (lKyWE)


In all fairness ... they do still appear to have some fans.

Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (/BTP8)

348 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM

LOL! Sounds like you have a cool priest there, FS.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (p+Wdc)

349 81: Great news Vic. Hope the weather cooperates for your porch rocker therapy. Heres to continued good health to you and Mrs. Vic.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (KP5rU)

350 I bet the flies in Tahiti are loving it.

Posted by: wth at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (HgMAr)

351 So, my bet on "Achmed" is still alive?

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (zc3Db)



Drudge has a link to the Mirror, which has a photo of the perp. You've got some good odds on your side.

Posted by: Country Singer at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (uiwCw)

352 346 CNN: You know who else used the word wiretap in his tweets?!?!?!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (493sH)

==================

This fake Hitler Twitter account that CNN thought was real for a solid 2 days?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (ELUpj)

353 I, for one, welcome/hasten the day when skynet becomes self-aware. If only for the fact that it will kill these commie bastards too.

Posted by: Strobe at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (gbWkA)

354 The terrorist was a white nationalist named Figel Narage. I don't care what the picture of the terrorist looked like.

Posted by: Jake Tapper Serious Journalist at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (OwdyX)

355 "I would be interested to find out just how loyal Ben is when he is facing 10 years in the "pound you in the ass" prison."


He would probably be like Susan McDougal. Dem loyalty is like a religion for them.

Posted by: Benji Carver at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (OD2ni)

356 So, was the call in the Oval Office to Mexico (and another country) that had transcripts released spying? Or did Trump back-channel his own transcripts?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (P/kVC)

357 Rest assured, I will be suing media outlets that falsely named me as the Parliament attacker. This is a gross example of character assassination. While I fully support the attack, I couldn't possibly have committed it, as I'm still in jail!
For shame!!!

Posted by: Abu Izzadeen at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (B6OKy)

358 Vindication in terms of evidence coming from Congress or from POTUS...which seems more independent to the average voter?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
__________


Like they did with Benghazi?

I honestly think POTUS should address the nation and bring forth what he has and lay out why this is the stuff of 3rd world banana republics.

If he was under surveillance (and we already know his people like Flynn were) then Obama and his people need to answer for that. Its far worse than Watergate as it involves federal law enforcement

What complicates things now is Manaforts connections and whether it stemmed from that.

I still think though that campaigns should largely be off limits to surveillance

Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (9cYRJ)

359 Tahiti is not an independent country. It's still a French possession.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)


Conspiracy theorist spoilsport. There is an income tax treaty with France.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (ZFUt7)

360 ace...just walked in the door and your breakdown was great....not kneejerk...seemed very even handed.....

thanks for sifting through the b.s. and posting a synopsis for those walking in cold....

good man...

Posted by: rocky mattioli at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (nkfDI)

361 329 48 One can only imagine the frantic workings going on in the Obama's new digs in DC.

He's in French Polynesia for a Month without His Fam.... Coincidence?... Re-adjusts tin foil hat...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:12 PM (O2RFr)


One can only imagine what his communications say...well looky here at what just came in over the transom of my office door.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (hLRSq)

362 I have it stabilized and maybe even picking some up now. Another reason for holding off on the porch.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party
====

Good to hear. Your wife dropped by and asked for recipes or food suggestions. I told her anything with butter!

Posted by: Mortimer, FINISH HER! at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (KakCb)

363 349 81: Great news Vic. Hope the weather cooperates for your porch rocker therapy. Heres to continued good health to you and Mrs. Vic.

The same from Me...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:17 PM (O2RFr)

364 So, was the call in the Oval Office to Mexico (and
another country) that had transcripts released spying? Or did Trump
back-channel his own transcripts?


Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (P/kVC)

The other country was Australia...

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 22, 2017 04:17 PM (P/kVC)

365 >>>>
Am I missing something, or has there still been no thread on AoS about
today's London terror attack? If not, why not? American internecine
political squabbles suddenly have been moved to my mental back burner.

Posted by: zombie





A possible assassination attempt on the head of Britain -- she being
little more than 100 feet away -- by a radicalized Islamist? Who kills
four and injures 20?



Yeah, that's pretty big.
.
.
.
.It appears they got the identity of the attacker wrong. The one they ID'ed as the attacker is still in prison according to his lawyer. No idea who the actual attacker is.

Something is way off in their reporting. Twitchy has the update.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at March 22, 2017 04:17 PM (le7jz)

366 Regarding Bullet point #19,
look at Freedom Watch March 21, 2017 letter to Nunes from Larry Klayman. He is an attorney representing one of the While blowers of this case.
See Freedom Watch USA dot org

Posted by: Vera at March 22, 2017 04:17 PM (yHpsH)

367 358
Like they did with Benghazi?

I honestly think POTUS should address the nation and bring forth what he has and lay out why this is the stuff of 3rd world banana republics.

If he was under surveillance (and we already know his people like Flynn were) then Obama and his people need to answer for that. Its far worse than Watergate as it involves federal law enforcement

What complicates things now is Manaforts connections and whether it stemmed from that.

I still think though that campaigns should largely be off limits to surveillance
Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (9cYRJ)

====================

I'm hard on Congress for essentially circle jerking on so many investigations during Obama's term, but they were really limited in terms of follow through because they didn't have a friendly force in the White House.

With a friendly White House, things could, and very likely will, play out differently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:17 PM (ELUpj)

368 most of these Euro terrorists have been known to authorities, this UK one as well, has a record

Posted by: runner at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (c6/9Q)

369 Tasking is an intelligence term that basically means "tapping". so if it's a phone, "tasking" it is "tapping" it. can't get into details but that's your translation to layman's terms

Posted by: dan at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (1beh4)

370 "I want to see both Clapper and Brennan frog marched in chains. Slimy, dishonest cocksuckers.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 03:42 PM (/tuJf)



THIS and add Comey"

---------

There can be no other resolution to this debacle. If they skate the next Republican president will be treated even worse. Some metaphorical public executions are called for to educate the Deep State.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (Tm3Ti)

371 299 OT: 4chan identified the British terrorist before we did in the US.
Posted by: shibumi at March 22, 2017 04:06 PM (FkAXz

For free, more efficient, and more competent as well.

Posted by: Phone of Widespread Pepe at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (MwiFE)

372 Am I missing something, or has there still been no thread on AoS about
today's London terror attack? If not, why not? American internecine
political squabbles suddenly have been moved to my mental back burner.

Posted by: zombie

We didn't have a "formal" thread on the subject but We've been talking about it...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (O2RFr)

373 >>ook at Freedom Watch March 21, 2017 letter to Nunes from Larry Klayman. He is an attorney representing one of the While blowers of this case.
See Freedom Watch USA dot org

Been saying this for an hour now.

Dennis Montgomery.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (/tuJf)

374 wanted to see what Larry Johnson had to say about this and his website is down. He is former CIA who was blogging about the coup attempt since before Trump was inaugurated. Very anti-Clinton.

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (nNdYv)

375 Rest assured, I will be suing media outlets that falsely named me as the Parliament attacker. This is a gross example of character assassination. While I fully support the attack, I couldn't possibly have committed it, as I'm still in jail!
For shame!!!
Posted by: Abu Izzadeen



It was his cousin, Dizzy Deen.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (Uohrc)

376 349
81: Great news Vic. Hope the weather cooperates for your porch rocker
therapy. Heres to continued good health to you and Mrs. Vic.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (KP5rU)

Looks like Sat will be a good day. Sunny and 74F

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 04:19 PM (mpXpK)

377 372
We didn't have a "formal" thread on the subject but We've been talking about it...
Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:18 PM (O2RFr)

=====================

Wait...are you saying that there were commenters who went off topic?

*gasp!*

*fainting couch*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:19 PM (ELUpj)

378 >>>I do think the longer this sits without a smoking gun, the more Trump loses credibilty.


you say this every day

Posted by: concrete girl at March 22, 2017 04:19 PM (hyCJn)

379
In all fairness ... they do still appear to have some fans.
Posted by: ScoggDog at March 22, 2017 04:15 PM (/BTP


Dems have spent the better part of last fifty years conditioning their base to distrust the CIA,NSA,and FBI with much success.Where is the support coming from?

Posted by: Deplorable Male Logic at March 22, 2017 04:19 PM (lKyWE)

380 Posted by: concrete girl at March 22, 2017 04:19 PM (hyCJn)

He just varies what he says it about.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 22, 2017 04:20 PM (fDdVG)

381 "We didn't have a "formal" thread on the subject but We've been talking about it..."


I am reporting that it was a Tea Party member upset about Obamacare.

Posted by: Brian Moran at March 22, 2017 04:20 PM (OD2ni)

382 373 >>ook at Freedom Watch March 21, 2017 letter to Nunes from Larry Klayman. He is an attorney representing one of the While blowers of this case.
See Freedom Watch USA dot org

Can that be trusted? I mean it was on WND which I have a hard time reliving...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:20 PM (O2RFr)

383 366
Regarding Bullet point #19,

look at Freedom Watch March 21, 2017 letter to Nunes from Larry
Klayman. He is an attorney representing one of the While blowers of
this case.

See Freedom Watch USA dot org

Posted by: Vera at March 22, 2017 04:17 PM (yHpsH)
http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/170321-Final%20Whistleblower%20Letter.pdf

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 22, 2017 04:20 PM (GX63o)

384 "WTF? My comment just got eaten. Must have pissed off the Pixy Hamsters with that last crack."

-------

You were probably commenting from your iPhone. Same thing happens to ne when I use it.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 04:20 PM (Tm3Ti)

385 reliving... =believing...

Posted by: It's Me donna at March 22, 2017 04:20 PM (O2RFr)

386 >>.It appears they got the identity of the attacker wrong. The one they
ID'ed as the attacker is still in prison according to his lawyer. No
idea who the actual attacker is.



Current UK Daily Mail headline says two attackers...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

Posted by: Lizzy at March 22, 2017 04:21 PM (NOIQH)

387 Nood.

Turkey.

No, not that kind...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at March 22, 2017 04:22 PM (ELUpj)

388 It appears they got the identity of the attacker wrong. The one they
ID'ed as the attacker is still in prison according to his lawyer. No
idea who the actual attacker is.


Turns out it was Abu Wuzzadeen. Simple mistake.

Posted by: *Mikey NTH - Spring Sale! Get Your Vernal Vituperations at the Outrage Outlet! at March 22, 2017 04:22 PM (hLRSq)

389 most of these Euro terrorists have been known to authorities, this UK one as well, has a record
Posted by: runner 



I'm sure the British have a serious watch list system like the United States. Just like the United States that watch list system doesn't equate to preventing terrorist attacks.

Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 04:22 PM (ZFUt7)

390 Prison. Nothing brings this BS to a head than putting people who broke the law in prison for 10 years.

Posted by: Drider at March 22, 2017 04:22 PM (6Xbsz)

391 nood

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 04:23 PM (mpXpK)

392
You know how to tell when someone is lying?
The story keeps changing.

Posted by: A. Stoic Lee at March 22, 2017 04:23 PM (JALpR)

393 308 All your jeans are belong to us
Posted by: Chelsea Handler's mish towel at March 22, 2017 04:09 PM (gbWkA)
Wha?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at March 22, 2017 04:14 PM (GX63o)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE CHELSEA HANDLER TWEETED SOMETHING MEAN ABOUT PDT'S NEW GRANDCHILD HAVING BAD "JEANS"

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at March 22, 2017 04:23 PM (dQJCS)

394 MK Ultra, Operation Paperclip, Operation Atlas, Operation Gladio, Bay of Pigs and the hits just keep on coming. Trust us, we know what we're doing.

Posted by: CIA, Spook Palace, VA at March 22, 2017 04:24 PM (gbWkA)

395 I do think the longer this sits without a smoking gun, the more Trump loses credibilty.


you say this every day
Posted by: concrete girl
______


I'm either called a trump shill or a troll.

I don't mind, I call it like I see it.

Even with all the caveats, people can't wait to scream "heretic"

Reminds me of the former Sarah Palin supporters.

Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:24 PM (9cYRJ)

396 There is widespread concern among government officials and the public that due to his fear of stairs, the so-called president may very well faint and have to be dragged into a van while losing his shoe. Coming up: A panel of experts weighs in.

Posted by: This is CNN at March 22, 2017 04:25 PM (dargh)

397 I live about 50 miles from the NC border.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (mpXpK)

I got married in Rock Hill. Nice area.

Posted by: F.N.G. at March 22, 2017 04:25 PM (kiSdp)

398 "It's amazing and mind boggling that law a binding citizens are being targeted while George Soros and his proxies are protected."

-------------

That's why they are called The Protected and the rest of us are The Unprotected.

You could just as easily substitute Person and Unperson for those terms.

Funny how the Left has so much in common with a former Russian Regime.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 04:26 PM (Tm3Ti)

399 I've said this for awhile. The big Known Unknown is if the Trumpsters can identify specific leakers of classified information in order to indict them. If you can, this is an easy conviction because you don't have to prove motive, just that they did leak.

Facing decades of theoretical jail time ....

"Batman has no jurisdiction, he'll find him and make 'em squeal, I know the squealers when I see 'em ..."

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 22, 2017 04:27 PM (SIY7D)

400 Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:24 PM (9cYRJ)

The thing is though - the MUH RUSSIANS meme is the one that loses credibility with each passing day.

Ask Average Joe or Jane what they think about all the MUH RUSSIANS hysteria.

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 04:28 PM (nNdYv)

401 i certainly wouldn't call you a trump schill Mr.

Posted by: concrete girl at March 22, 2017 04:28 PM (hyCJn)

402 new thread if no one mentioned it already

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at March 22, 2017 04:28 PM (b7fwp)

403
195 spy stuff is right up your alley
-----
That sounds dirty. No way I'm Googling it.

Posted by: Dang at March 22, 2017 03:49 PM (8b+oT)







Obligatory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuziQsUrbeM

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 22, 2017 04:28 PM (XWkhW)

404 >>>>I live about 50 miles from the NC border.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017 03:37 PM (mpXpK)



I got married in Rock Hill. Nice area.
.
.
.I was the Sheriff of Rock Ridge

Posted by: Clevon Little at March 22, 2017 04:29 PM (le7jz)

405 Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:24 PM (9cYRJ)

The thing is though - the MUH RUSSIANS meme is the one that loses credibility with each passing day.

Ask Average Joe or Jane what they think about all the MUH RUSSIANS hysteria.
Posted by: kallisto

______


I would agree, the "Trump is a closet Russian agent" is just a beltway meme that is going nowhere.

Nobody buys it

Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:32 PM (9cYRJ)

406 Nobody buys it
Posted by: Maritime at March 22, 2017 04:32 PM (9cYRJ)


Union leadership in Philly has their own one hour radio talk show. The boss of all bosses said straight up that his members give no fooks about the Russia story. All they care about are jobs and health care.

When the Philly inquirer mouthpiece came on their show to spiel the MUH RUSSIANS b.s., the union guy straight up confronted him with the fact that the brothers see it as a non-story.

Liar media has gone far out on a limb with this one.

Posted by: kallisto at March 22, 2017 04:35 PM (nNdYv)

407 "So, how many of republican senators and congressmen knew about trump and co surveillance ?"

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My guess is McCain is at the top of the list.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 04:36 PM (Tm3Ti)

408 Just an aside: his name is not Nunez, it's pronounced Noon-ess. Have some friends named that and it's a constant source of irritation for them. It's Portugese. I hear most of the news people saying it incorrectly.

Posted by: Miss Sippi at March 22, 2017 04:41 PM (Tcfj+)

409 "What did the Prezident know and when did he know it? Is the question they won't ask.
Posted by: torabora at March 22, 2017 04:00 PM (QgFG+)"

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We could all do the journalists' jobs better than they and then they wonder why they are held in contempt.

As far as contempt is concerned, the people are simply returning the favor. We've worked out some time ago what the media think about the population.

Posted by: Decaf at March 22, 2017 04:45 PM (Tm3Ti)

410 Just got back, and praise be, this was my last trip. They have given me a clean bill of health and released me from all restrictions. I can even hit the porch rocker. But I am going to give that a few more days.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at March 22, 2017
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GREAT NEWS !!!!!

Posted by: EVLINC! at March 22, 2017 04:45 PM (y3aQB)

411 Tonight on Rachel Maddow...The Russians flew even more ice skating rinks into Guatemala City back in the late seventies than previously reported!

Posted by: MSNBC Forward! at March 22, 2017 04:48 PM (dargh)

412 5 Yes, as a matter of fact the media IS an arm of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

No it isn't

Posted by: Ben Rhodes at March 22, 2017 04:50 PM (0i9eW)

413 412 5 Yes, as a matter of fact the media IS an arm of the Democratic Party.
Posted by: joncelli, Longbow Afficianado and Phalangist at March 22, 2017 03:25 PM (RD7QR)

No it isn't

Posted by: New York Times at March 22, 2017 04:50 PM (0i9eW)

414 About "incidental collection" of data. From WaPo in 2014.

http://tinyurl.com/lxcsrup

"U.S. communications increasingly travel across U.S. borders --- or are stored beyond them. For example, the Google and Yahoo e-mail systems rely on networks of "mirror" servers located throughout the world. An e-mail from New York to New Jersey is likely to wind up on servers in Brazil, Japan and Britain. The same is true for most purely domestic communications.

Executive Order 12333 contains nothing to prevent the NSA from collecting and storing all such communications --- content as well as metadata --- provided that such collection occurs outside the United States in the course of a lawful foreign intelligence investigation. No warrant or court approval is required, and such collection never need be reported to Congress."

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 22, 2017 04:52 PM (d3wbb)

415 NSA's incidentals.

"... NSA's upstream collection -- the latter of which pulls communications directly from domestic internet backbones. The upstream collection has no targets. Instead, it grabs everything it can (including audio communications) it can and sorts through it for targeted terms, as well as anything related to the targeted terms NSA analysts add to the filter.

http://tinyurl.com/mfwtsnq

Posted by: geoffb5 at March 22, 2017 04:58 PM (d3wbb)

416 Watching Adam Shiff, D-CA, on FBN, sound muted. Who knew there was such a thing as a douchebag with ears?

Posted by: Taqyia2Me, Deploribus Unum at March 22, 2017 05:04 PM (Ftuf+)

417 359 Tahiti is not an independent country. It's still a French possession.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)


Conspiracy theorist spoilsport. There is an income tax treaty with France.
Posted by: E Depluribus Unum at March 22, 2017 04:16 PM (ZFUt7)



It is a Frog Hawaii, with nuke testing on a remote atoll.

makes you wish the Frogs had held onto Algeria, when you think of nuke testing.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 22, 2017 05:17 PM (ujg0T)

418 408 Just an aside: his name is not Nunez, it's pronounced Noon-ess. Have some friends named that and it's a constant source of irritation for them. It's Portugese. I hear most of the news people saying it incorrectly.
Posted by: Miss Sippi at March 22, 2017 04:41 PM (Tcfj+)



Like the French martin-HEYS who were turned into mar-TEEN-ezes, so it is with the Portuguese Noon-eses turned into Noon-yezes.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at March 22, 2017 05:20 PM (ujg0T)

419 #379 "...Where is the support coming from?"

From an addiction to power.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at March 22, 2017 06:31 PM (LeUrG)

420 1. Brennan is the dog who hasn't barked.
2. Lynch is the weakest link in the chain. Lean on her.
3. As to the second item, how can Comey order someone to lean on Lynch since he obviously came close to perjury Monday?
4. Domestic intelligence didn't have to intercept Hillary's communications since everyone was tripping all over them.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 22, 2017 07:24 PM (2nfFE)

421 #374 Thank you for mentioning Larry Johnson's blog. It's still down. When using Safari, the DNS error message says the site doesn't exist. I've read elsewhere that his Twitter account is gone, too. I can't confirm that, because I didn't follow him and haven't used Twitter in a very long time. I find this very bizarre.

Posted by: Guns Gardens and Yarn at March 22, 2017 08:18 PM (znV6x)

422 Its "Wire Tap" and it is about to get turned up all the way to 11...

Posted by: The Garbone at March 22, 2017 09:11 PM (9dH/8)

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